I pose a question to see if anyone else has come up with the same conclusion that I have..
Based on the invention by Stanley Myers [RIP] :'(
What is out there that is already in existance and used in a number of cars that can produce
a relatively low voltage high current [10-15 amps] highly modulated D.C. Electrical flow that can
handle resistance in the order of .5 to 8 ohms?
I'm not sure what the resistance of tap water, distilled water is but if memory serves it's somewhere
around .6 ohms which seems to be too much for the circuits i see people using with 555 chips.
Which only seem to modulate at about 500hz anyways which is way below the 42.8khz that is
supposedly the sweet spot that MR. Myers found.
I won't even pretend to understand the diagrams I've seen which is why I'm curious to see how many
if anyone was able to come to the conclusion that I have as far as a readymade abundant item that
you can buy at any big box electronics retailer. An item that the government would not be able to
eliminate and therefore would possibly be the the homebrew way to finally free ourselves from the
oil goobs..
this is what I understand from what I've seen and read about Mr. Myers invention as far as the electical
circuit is concerned and this would be enough to create enough hydrogen to power a small car engine.
Low voltage 1.4-14volts
High current (10-15 amps)
Highly Modulated around 42.8khz
able to handle high resistance of .6 - 8 ohms
again what is something that is capable of this?
I have my answer lets see if ther is anyone out there who agrees
:: oh yeah ,,, feel free to correct me if I'm totally wrong about what I think I learned of Stanley Myers invention
A good number of views but no one is willing to take a stab at an answer?
Does that mean my understanding of the Myers buggy is ... buggy?
C'mon people I know one of you has to have an educated guess at what I'm
alluding to here...
Try it..thats the only way to prove it to yourself....thats what the Wright brothers did.....
Quote from: mapsrg on January 27, 2008, 02:02:57 AM
Try it..thats the only way to prove it to yourself....thats what the Wright brothers did.....
I intend to but my question is what is the simple electronic device that I'm speaking of?
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I'm not sure what the resistance of tap water, distilled water is but if memory serves it's somewhere
around .6 ohms
Tap water has a resistance measured in kilo ohms depending on impurities, distilled water will have a considerably higher resistance in the mega ohms range because it lacks impurities.
Quote from: RunningBare on January 27, 2008, 10:29:49 AM
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I'm not sure what the resistance of tap water, distilled water is but if memory serves it's somewhere
around .6 ohms
Tap water has a resistance measured in kilo ohms depending on impurities, distilled water will have a considerably higher resistance in the mega ohms range because it lacks impurities.
Thanks for the reply.
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy00/phy00787.htm (http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy00/phy00787.htm)
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen01/gen01783.htm (http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen01/gen01783.htm)
are a couple of places that answer the question of resistance in ohms of water.
I would prefer to just do my own measurements with my meter..
again I pose the question about what device I'm referring to ?
Quote from: WiCodeProject on January 26, 2008, 10:11:14 PM
you can buy at any big box electronics retailer.
Low voltage 1.4-14volts
High current (10-15 amps)
Highly Modulated around 42.8khz
able to handle high resistance of .6 - 8 ohms
again what is something that is capable of this?
I have my answer lets see if ther is anyone out there who agrees
WiCode It looks to me like you are talking about an audio amp.
gary
42.8 KHz is an ultrasonic frequency. It has been bandied around a lot. It was allegedly used by Keely to dissociate water. This is not true. Keely used far more complex vibrations than this.
42.8 KHz works to a degree but is not the complete answer.
Hans von Lieven.
I know the device you are thinking of. It's a "multiphase rotary transformer."
I've been thinking about it a bit and recognize that since you want to inject this ~42.8kHz freq into a rotary transformer there are a couple of things that could things that could confuse the results. First, the primary coils impedance is going to attenuate your signal to a high degree. There could be a benefit to determining the inductance of your primary and using an appropriate capacitor essentially turn that part of the circuit in to a tuned circuit. Second, the rotary transformer will have a frequency of it's own. You could either filter or ignore the beat-frequencies. Or you could have neither the injected freq or the transformer freq be the ~42.8 your looking for and instead have it be the result of the combination of the two.
That multiphase rotary transformer is what everyone else would call an "automobile alternator."
Oh, and please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thank you all Car amp was my answer .. well the way I see it is that an amp can be fed almost any frequency to about 125khz .. now thats not to say that it will come stock with that ability because it will most likely have (lpf)/(hpf) switch that maybe restricts the frequency from
10hz-250hz(lpf)/100hz-30khz(hpf). well why not just bypass those and feed it a specific frequency that you generate on a ?????
tone generator, or even on a peice of sofware on your computer like cooledit which can create bursts of any frequency that you could want..
hook your amp to your anode cathode array in your water container and turn up the volume and pump in some noise until you start making hella hho.. I'm planning on doing some heavy experimenting with this concept. I plan to see if I can generate hho like this, determine if it's a significant amount to run a lawn mower .. throw some vaccum oneway valves on some vaccum tube and replace the fuel line with my hho
being generated. if that works and the mower will run I'll continue on to finding a dinky alternator that is going to provide enough power to run the amp and a little battery that will be ued to kick off the hho making process..if I can get all of this to work and work well I.E. I can mow my yard with the mower because it has sufficient power from the hho that it won't die on the high parts.. I will begin trying it with an old carb'd rustbucket I have out on the farm. I'll be around to see if anyone has put any more thought into this idea and to let you all know what
'if anything' i'm able to come up with..
angry you sure did have part of it :P