Hi All,
have a look at this video.
It shows a new magnetic engine from
cycclone.com
http://cycclone.com/welcome/page4.php
Can somebody understand what the inventor speaks in the video ?
The audiopart is very low and he has a pretty big accent.
Thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
Hartiberlin,
Well who cares about what is saying in the video. My questionable statement here is... Is that for real or is a lie. I just saw a starter motor giving inertia to spin it but they stopped it too soon to declare it as a true magnetic motor. It simply does not convince me.
I agree that not enough information is given, but the motor frequency did continue to increase after starter was deactivated.
Don't write it off yet.....
Rich
given the background of the person, his earlier job in an engine making company of very high repute, i am sure that he would not spend a dime on things that wouldn't get results
the company had a parent company in usa, but now has become independent and will do business direct
what he says in the video is that this is definitely not a hobby thing but a very real engine
the concluding part of the video has the narrator saying that the 'next step is to make a 300 hp engine and use it to drive across australia" .. now, no one is asking for anything from us .. so i would say that this MUST be believed .. and watched .. i have written to the company, and have friends in sydney who can go and check it out
if someone comes across something .. let me know at : pk@sharmas.com
..peekay
I have some personal knowledge of this device. ( not prepared to put anything in writing and I have met the inventor)
My own opinion is that like all other magnetic motors the magnets lose their power if placed under load. Many devices i have studied over the years all suffered the same fate when put under load. I feel that even Paul Sprains, Pendrev and others may suffer the same fate given it was left to run under any load for some time.
Any real test is where the device is measured for magnetic power before and after running.
I live in hope like all of you...cant see it happenning
Hi mark australia!
Have you ever seen a working device with your own eyes? It works in repelling or in attracting mode?
What do you think... If an all Permanent magnetic motor runs by only attractive interactions, the magnets also lose their power?
We all know, when a such device runs in repelling mode, this is allow the magnets to demagnetize themselves. But what happens if it's possible to run a device in all attracting mode? In this case the magnets doesn't work against each other, but joining together.
And you also can generate electricity without real load, with the use of some kind of fixed stator coils.
Greg
Hi Greg,
Dear Greg,
you make many valid points.
However to date the dozens of magnetic motors claiming overunity I have followed over the years in all configurations I have yet to see one run continueosly under load. Many do indeed run...they are however just like a childs toy...a spinning top. They may run for days...even months without a load......but in the end if placed underload they stop.
Paul Sprain I have a lot of repect for..I have been following his progress for some time and i believe he may have obtained overunity. However even if he has an overunity device...how much usable energy will be available and at what capital cost?. I wish him all the best
I dont wish to dampen anyones enthusiasm, quite the oppersite. However I remain a realist and am yet to see any device that could be measured to produce overunity.
As far as the cycclone device..I have met the inventor and offered to fully fund an independent test of the device....that was over two years ago...I am still waiting. I believe his current focus is in other business areas at the moment. I know people who have invested in the project and I wish them every success. My reluctance to discuss too much about this particular device is my skeptism has cost me some personal friendships with some of the investors.
I am waiting for the results and tests of the replications and modified versions of theTorbay device...it makes a lot of sense to me....however I have had my hopes built up so many times over the years I think I will wait patiently for the outcomes.
Keep up the good work
Mark
And today, the cycclone.com site has no info on any device. Only about their "ship project". Anybody saved the sound/video from the first post in this thread?
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Cycclone has some info on the motor
kinda funny how these motors just disappear...never to be seen or talked about again
They normally dissapear because they dont work. I am yet to see one device that holds up under independant scutiny. I can show you many that have taken investors for a ride.
I live in hope however like the rest of you and encourage all the great work that many of you do who visit this site.
I still hold some hope for the Torbay device.
Kinf regards
mark
Quote from: mark australia on April 17, 2006, 11:49:10 PM
They normally dissapear because they dont work.
I agree with you Mark. It's a disappointing scheme, but it's more inspiring for me. When I see somthing like this I more want to solve the problem. I ordered magnets in my country, but the companies reject my order.
Does sombody know a manufacturer in Europe, who create custom made magnets in not too large quantities for experimenters like me?When I get the magnets I need, I can finish my present experiment in may. I'm very excited about it. Hope it works. :)
Torbay's device is also interesting. I think it's mechanically a bit complicated, but can work with the right setup, and maybe the guys in the other topic are not too far from success.
Best wishes,
Greg
Hi
I got the video, but to me looks like another scam proposal.
Joe
@ greg,
try this company http://www.magnet4less.com/
Thanks Nastrand.
http://www.cycclone.info/
This was on the free energy news web and you should also read the rebutal to be fair.
I'm always skeptical of refutal sites that have bold letters shouting out that it's a scam without any proof on the page, seems a touch childish. Although I suppose thats because ive been reading methods on howto down a company that conflicts with your interests.
It's just one method but it's quite simple really.. you pretend to become a share holder and encourage money laundering or pressure the company into making the wrong move then 'snap' you accuse them of foul play and fraud.
If I was in the energy industry making billions of dollars on oil and gas and didn't like the tech another company was making and it had the capability to threatened my buisness and status thats what id do anyway.
Always important to consider that the refutee might be the person with the foul agenda.
In my opinion the techs validity is more important than any bad transactions or claims of monitary fraud.
cycclone.info is registed by "domains by proxy" This person is not willing to stand behind their words. Having said that, if Michael Nugent was innocent he could have that site taken down fairly quickly with a phone call to "domains by proxy" and/or a strong letter drafted by his lawyer.
Where is the rebuttal?
Cycclone is on the web again at: http://www.cycclonemagneticengines.com
So has anybody already visited this company and had a closer
first hand look at this magnet motor ?
It seems he really uses the starter motor only twice to
get to a starter RPM and then using the other control
handle to accelerate the motor on its own power...
at least it looks this way, I don?t know, if the 2 batteries
are then not needed anymore....??
I seem to recall that there was another cyclone pmm engine that was proven to be a hoax...not sure if this is the same motor or not, but after this long, why wouldn't they have done their testing already? Personally If I was sitting on something as monumental as that, I'd be pushing to get it mass marketed ASAP....
Have a look at this link below - the ASIC has applied to appoint a liquidator to the company
http://www.ecourts.courts.qld.gov.au/eSearching/result.asp?FileNumber=&FileType=&OrigLocation=&Location=&Court=&LastName=cycclone&GivenName=&PartyRole=&DateFrom=&Search=Search
I guess the owner is trying to get money before they loose it all..