Please use this thread for the general discussion of pyramids.
moved over from other TT pyramid thread
Joe,
Did you ever see the writings of Ed Kunkel. I am posting his US patent. He said as part of his thesis that the lower chambers of the pyramid were the workings of a ram pump that there was a teardrop scorch mark on the ceiling of the grand gallery. In his innocence he pointed it out to the egyptologists. Next time he returned to Egypt it had been whitewashed. That was in the 40's or 50's. Perhaps what is now visible and is shown in that above site is the bleed through from that whitewashing from 50 years ago?
Here is a pdf of Kunkel's patent. (BTW Kunkel was a hydraulic engineer who thought he could save humanity by giving them a way to produce free power from this pump.)
Jeanna
@ Jenna
Maybe i dont buy that whole thing tho, he did make a few parallels that he didn't realize... I need to find my old docs im still hunting for them.. I think that air was the conductor and it wasent a water pump system but an electro static pump. I will elaborate more once i can find those dam papers :)
Joe
Quote from: Localjoe on February 03, 2008, 03:55:48 PM
@ Jenna
Maybe i dont buy that whole thing tho, he did make a few parallels that he didn't realize... I need to find my old docs im still hunting for them.. I think that air was the conductor and it wasent a water pump system but an electro static pump. I will elaborate more once i can find those dam papers :)
Joe
The thing to know about the patent is that he had to put the pump in at the top to satisfy the patent folks, but they drove out to his place in Ohio and witnesses a replication of it working and so granted the patent.
The problem with his idea is that over time the extreme vacuum pressure in the grand gallery literally pulls HHO out of the liquid state. All that is needed however, is a spark. Kunkel never solved this. I am pretty sure I have. The intermittent spark is the result of the electrostatic charge that builds up over the kings chamber in all that granite. One spark and kaboom all that HHO implodes and the water is sucked up to fill the grand gallery again. The soot patern had to be there. Kunkel would not have gone for the patent without it. He just thought a person was there as a fireman. (a fireman with no ears left.)
The thing I also think is that we have only actually explored the plumbing of the pyramid style buildings. (They all have the characteristic angled pathways etc.) I think there are many cubic feet in those buildings that could be used for other and possibly more interesting stuff.
jeanna
Hi Stubblefield fans!
I was 'wondering' around and found this thread. Here's a link to a local fellow that thinks that Giza was built to function as a water pump:
http://www.thepump.org/index.htm (http://www.thepump.org/index.htm)
He has an interesting concept of how it was built, if nothing else.
This site: http://www.cobalt.ca/ragged_chutes.htm (http://www.cobalt.ca/ragged_chutes.htm) shows that at least part of the 'Giza as a water pump' concept is possible.
Another link, but from the skeptic realm:
http://skepdic.com/refuge/pharoahspump.html (http://skepdic.com/refuge/pharoahspump.html)
It pretty much pooh-poohs Meyers theory.
Christopher Dunn (The Giza Power Plant), thinks it was all about producing electricity.
I'm wondering if the ultimate purpose of Giza wasn't to pump water or produce electricity, but to use both to produce a gas (orgone?) that stimulated the local weather to produce rainfall? A rain making machine in the desert?
Quote from: epiphany on March 23, 2008, 12:46:01 PM
I'm wondering if the ultimate purpose of Giza wasn't to pump water or produce electricity, but to use both to produce a gas (orgone?) that stimulated the local weather to produce rainfall? A rain making machine in the desert?
Hi epiphany,
Remember, the nile was at one time very much higher than it is today, and also the 'desert' was covered with mosses and mushrooms etc. as seen in petroglyphs of those wet-loving plants in caves in the middle of the desert.
I can't give you a written source for this info. I was at a mushroom conference where an Italian naturalist showed pics of this type of thing. (sorry. I can't even find his name.)
jeanna
Quote from: jeanna on March 23, 2008, 02:39:06 PM
Hi epiphany,
Remember, the nile was at one time very much higher than it is today, and also the 'desert' was covered with mosses and mushrooms etc. as seen in petroglyphs of those wet-loving plants in caves in the middle of the desert.
I can't give you a written source for this info. I was at a mushroom conference where an Italian naturalist showed pics of this type of thing. (sorry. I can't even find his name.)
jeanna
Hi Jeanna. Thank-you. It would seem that mosses and mushrooms would require a forest (and maybe wet climate), due to the symbiotic nature of mushrooms/trees, and the acid loving mosses.
I guess I've read a few things here and there where the true age of Giza isn't exactly known. I do believe that Giza was built for a purpose, and I believe those pyramids pre-date the pharaohs that wanted to 'steal their thunder'. Anyway, I enjoy a good mystery... :)
Off topic, my wife and I have harvested hedgehogs and chanterelles from around here. mmmm
Hopefully we'll find some morels this year.
The pyramid was used to make nuclear fusion which would in return be used to control the weather via entropic vortex from the "HOMEMADE SUN"
Pyramids are nothing more than that
Quote from: Nickin352 on March 27, 2008, 06:39:51 AM
The pyramid was used to make nuclear fusion which would in return be used to control the weather via entropic vortex from the "HOMEMADE SUN"
Pyramids are nothing more than that
Do you have more information on that?
Thanks.
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The great pyramids all around the world show previous civilisations must of had a common link ie the similarities.All pyramids are alligned except one...the oldest known structure near the highest lake in the world,in Bolivia.The langauge of the local people could be used as a computer language.....archiologists would have us believe all these structures were built for some religious reason be it for sacrifice or tomb......So here we are recognising these structures were really built to tap into energy.....
Here is a fantastic, interactive 3D view of the inside of the Great Pyramid...
ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.winsite.com/winxp/video/GP_inside.zip
For me the King's chamber is definitely a freestanding resonating chamber. It's been proved that it resonates at 440Hz plus some other harmonics.
Quote from: kEhYo77 on June 24, 2008, 06:20:47 PM
For me the King's chamber is definitely a freestanding resonating chamber. It's been proved that it resonates at 440Hz plus some other harmonics.
Just wondering how accurate the measuring of the frequency is. Just that 444 is a number which comes up in other patterns of things. If it was 444 Hz, it would be really neat ;)
I just wrote this as most of a reply to a PM. I think this is clearly enough expressed to be posted somewhere on the ou forum. I decided to post it here because only the more open minds will bother to read it. ;D
Maybe part of the problem is that H2O is very different from HHO. In chemistry HOH is the way it is written when not using the sub 2 character because it is a H+ ion connected to a OH- ion.
HHO is also called Brown's gas and Brown says there are 'physical' differences in Brown's gas that make it very different from steam.
I have been looking at Brown's gas since the mid 90's.
I was introduced to it by the [IMO ]"slimer" Dennis Lee who took the rights to distribute it from Dr. Brown then sat on it as he does with all the inventions he holds distribution rights to.
Nonetheless, I was able to learn some of the properties of this remarkable gas.
It was just before I met Lee that I had studied the pyramid pump patent of Kunkel. While studying that, I showed the patent to a resin chemist (a friend) who said it looked good, but on further thought he said the pump would slow to a halt as the H and O molecules were literally pulled out of the water by the vacuum in the chamber and separated as gas.
He explained to me that this would not be steam, but a gas made up of the same proportions of H and O as in water. ( in other words - not steam but HHO gas.)
Because of Lee I was able to put together the fact that this gas in the pyramid is HHO and the same gas as Brown's gas. On combustion it IMplodes. and it is cold.
I then understood that the granite which is piezoelectric and easily gets squeezed by movements of the weight of large amounts of water being pumped through the structure will produce the spark needed and the implosion will continue the pumping action of the pyramid.
Back to making this HHO with a battery:
So, I think the next step for scientific study will be to determine exactly how much electricity is needed to create 1800 cu cm of HHO gas from 1 cu cm of water.
Then, after that to determine what happens if it is compressed before it is fired. ( a 2nd study.)
I think I heard Brown say if air is added the reaction is explosive not implosive. (that audio was very hard to hear and I may have heard it wrong) -(a 3rd study.)
What I personally believe is that Brown's gas is a gas that will make a 'fusion' (cold fusion) reaction when fired. And because it is cold fusion it will be seen to be overunity.
thank you,
jeanna
from
http://www.gizapyramid.com/DrV-article.htm
someone gave us that link somewhere in this forum, i think this is a very simple experiment to test pyramid field ! that can be use as a proof of pyramid power generation
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a) Inside the pyramid were placed some plastic vessels with distilled water and the state of water was observed within three winter months. The water did not congeal, and saved all condition of fluids during all this time. The minimum temperature of air inside the pyramid was -38 C. The ganging of temperature of water inside a vessel showed that it corresponded to the temperature inside the pyramid (i.e. water did not congeal even when its temperature reached -38 C). Customary mineral water in plastic bottles behaved similarly also. When the vessel with water was shaken up or hit on it, crystallization inside the vessel started and the water quickly turned to ice.
water stored in a pyramid, does not freeze,
because the DC magnetic field of the pyramid, polarizes every water molecule.
so that the negative oxygen atom of one water molecule,
magnetically bonds to the 2 positive hydrogen atoms of another water molecule.
the water molecules are bonded into long chains, of what look like mickey mouse symbols.
these long mickey mouse chains, cannot crystalize. because they are LOCKED into their current structure!
a bottle of polarized water will not crystalize, after being stored in a pyramid.
but if you cool the bottle, and then whack it against a table, the water crystalizes within 4 or 5 seconds.
from liquid, to ice crystals. because the magnetic bonds were broken by the strike.
by the way. these polarized chains, are easier for the cells in your body to absorb.
so drinking pyramid stored water, hydrates you better.
very clever explanation Nitinnun
some researchers from that link migth like to hear you theory !
so the field inside the pyramid may act as well on many others matters
i have studied Ormus, and there is an experiment where gold is place in the pyramid, then the gold produce sort of oil, gold become oil ! and that oil transform itself in white powder, that powder is an elixir supra conductive
you can seraching for Ormus or i will provide the link if need
that is another demonstration of the effect inside pyramid
you'll have to look the links to know exactly how to do this
here a copper pyramid making vortex with tesla coil !
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/pyramids.htm
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/whatisit.htm
i didn't find the gold-oil-pyramid link yet
here the link i was looking for you, gold turn into elixir inside a pyramid !
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/pyramidgold.htm
QuoteThe big secret of alchemy is what's known as the 'secret fire,' something that can, over time, dissolve gold into a white powder. It is said that the whole process is completed by this 'fire' without human interaction. It is also said that the process is 'child's play,' and it is. The secret fire which dissolves gold is an energy emitted by a pyramid shape. Not very surprisingly, the word 'pyramid' is translated as 'fire in the middle.' As I am writing this, I have a one ounce Canadian Maple Leaf gold coin hanging in the middle of a pyramid that I made from eight five-foot sections of copper pipe which form a pyramidal frame. The coin is exuding a liquid which dries into a white powder. It is not condensation as the coin is at air temperature, and the humidity is low. I have cleaned the coin, and the liquid/powder reappears. This is not a normally reported property of gold, but it is quite consistent with the first step of the alchemical process, obscurely related in the texts I have studied. [Note that I did skip the black stage which is described in some texts. I think this is probably due to the 99.99% purity of the gold I am using. See the links at the end for more info on this issue.] Oh, by the way, the pyramid should be aligned with one face facing north and the gold should not be exposed to light.
one of my other links on Ormus to get easy elixir
http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/hudson/ormusgas.htm
hannibal (les brown), said that 3 tetrahedrons, turned zinc into calcium powder.
the tetrahedrons send electrons to the zinc.
the electrons kicked protons out of hte zinc.
the zinc lost 10 of its 30 protons. and became calcium.
if you kicked enough protons out of lead, could it be turned into gold?
or even into platinum?
hannibal (les brown), found the sorcerers stone!
drannom,
i sent some of my idea's to "joe parr", at one of those links.
this is what "joe parr" had to say to me:
"You did not meet my mininum requirements to evaluate your idea. This
gobledegook below
reminds me of person who has a surplus of time and nothing to do!
Till later
Joe"
i'm not sure who joe parr is.
but joe parr has a lot of ass kissing to do, and an attitude reconfiguration, if i am ever to type another word to him.
to label something that he doesn't understand as "gobledegook", is an extremely bad sign.
it is the attitude which keeps people stuck in ignorance-land.
and scares off anyone who would care to show them the way to the exit.
nobody with such an attitude EVER went anywhere in research.
because discovering new things, requires a tolerance for things that are unknown to you.
i agree with you, thank you for your interesting inputs, very surprising, transmuting with a pyramid or tetrahedrons
Ormus can be done with much more metals, even with copper, and silver, supra conductivity can be found in many places, even in air like prana, in water, underground etc.
i suppose that we are the champion as many members in this forum to find a way to reproduce easy things and spread them to be reproduce in the world
if someone find such others interesting links, don't be shy, let us know
and what about trying all that stuff, i must find gold ? and place it in the middle of a pyramid, the first vortex is over the pyramid, and the second vortex is like a ball of energy, like a stargate in the full meaning way
learning, learning, and learning, and then it must be test somehow, by many of us i hope
Hi there, i have myself conducted an experiment, that is extremely easy to reproduce.
1. A pyramid form, i used one of those expensive but fun to play/experiment with cylinder shaped neomagnet bars and steel balls set, well 2 actually for building larger structures and whatnot.
But according to the information i browsed at the time any pyramid "material" would work, as long its the shape of a pyramid, I used the same length on all the sides including the ones running up to the top. Note however, that i don't own a compass to determine south or north pole of the magnets, but i use a "neutral" base like this ;
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| x |
| / \ |
o------o
And the configuration of the base is a closed magnetic loop, in attraction mode, however, the top is strongly either N or S (magnets connect to the 5th ball, which is the top) and the 4 legs from the top running down to the 4 "steelball" corners, which in the end doesent make the base neutral anymore, but the opposite of the top and 1/4 in strength.
2. 2x Glasses/cups or mugs, filled whit youre regular tap water, same amount.
3. Place the pyramid above one of them after putting them both in the fridge(cooler or what its called) in youre kitchen, (not the freezer).
4. Let em sit in there for a minimum of 30 minutes, then take it out, u now have 2 glasses of cold fresh water to drink, taste em both, report youre findings. ;)
And feel free to experiment whit different possible configurations.
(note i personally whit the glass and the amount of magnets forming the square base of the pyramid, it perfectly slips outside of the glass, and rests decently centered on the 4 sides running up to the top of the pyramid, whit the square base being at the same level outside the glass as the water inside it.
Personally i prefer the taste from the pyramid influenced water, for some reason i find it tastes "fresher"
And i have since then conducted 2 differrent blind tests whit family and friends, having 3 glasses of water 2 like the ones above and one whit newly tapped water, just like when youre thirsty and want some, asking them what they liked the best, everyone commented that one of them tastes quote ; different, strange, funny, fresher somehow.
And of course they asked me how it comes that it tastes different, not having any previous knowledge about what i might have done to it.
Lets just say they are quite baffled about what they now know.
Onto my second experiment that is currently on the way, whitout knowing what the result will be, and poor knowledge of chemistry, and to see if the pyramid will affect it, but its still fun to experiment, and props to u Drannom for giving me the inspiration, and i got an idea for u to try there if it is possible.
1. Saturated to some degree, a small amount of water whit a regular table salt we have over here, container for the water is a plastic top, the airtight version, the water is on top of it.
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2. Using one of a few of those round metallic discs from an old hardrive, as something to place the pyramid on, and the dimensions from the disk fits perfectly so it rests on the plastic lids "walls"
3. Letting it dry up and see if crystals will form and perhaps being influenced by the pyramid in its shaping progress.
Note i have no idea if the salt even will form into a crystal of some sort, or if it will be influenced by the pyramid, but that's half the fun of coming up whit an idea to an experiment, right ? ;)
The idea i spoke of earlier Drannom and have in mind was if it is possible, to make some kind of permanent battery/superlight converter incorporating Nitunnun's understanding whit the different materials used and the cw and ccw spin, and youre awesome crystall growingskills.
The "prototype" is decently easy, top metall cap should have a wire running out of it as well as the bottom one, and the crystall latice will completely surround it all, as well as working as "insulation" between the top and bottom metall pyramid parts.
That's the basic idea will it work ? or does it have to be more advanced i dunno but that's probably something u guys can figure out in that case.
Either way if it works or not u will have a nice looking metall pyramid inside youre crystall pyramid.
Feel free to expand on the idea any way u guys want :)
Ha ha i just checked my last experiment, its a mess, and after dissecting this mess, not much crystallised salt at all where i thought it would be, instead it started "growing" on top of the plate and kinda stuck around where the base of the pyramid touched the plate via the steel balls, as well as "leaking" out, good stuff i placed it on top of one of those plastic "planks" for cutting stuff on when cooking.
Strange thing tho, the complete underside of the hard drive plate i used to put the pyramid on, is completely clean of crystals, while the top of it is completely covered.
Since it was a bit of a failure, I'm going to redo the experiment to a degree, utilising no plate, using a much larger pyramid, whit the container inside of the pyramid instead of a small one standing on top of the container.