I have been looking for ideas and theories on how the TPU generates the power SM shows. Several of Teslas' patents touch on this as well as a few others. They always seem to lack all the specifications in order to build it, or are rather vague in some way. Several people have mentioned that it looks like it may be a modified Tesla coil. Others think it looks like the Gunderson device. I am sure others see something different.
I do know that a lot of the devices seem to share a common thread or idea.
My take on the TPU has brought me to see a similarity to a Magnifying Transmitter. SM thru Mannix has stated that it is basically coils of wire and how they are arranged. The recent MIT project showing the large resonator coils caught my attention and lead me to ponder what would happen if there were 3 or 4 coils/resonators (copper wire was shown could use bailing wire perhaps??) arranged in a circular shape one feeding the next in line.
The source to start this off would be a small oscillator that is inductively coupled to one of the resonators, magnets would be used to enhance the coupling between the resonators. The power take off would be an inductively coupled coil off one of the other resonators, take a closer look at the open TPU video, it has 18Ga stranded wire wrapped on it, is the is the resonator or the power tap? One of the legs houses a small torrid coil and another a 9v battery. The spaces between coils is holding square black things, perhaps ferrite magnets? The theory for the MT says to offset the signal source to avoid coupling to the power tap, so if the small torrid is part of the oscillator and is below one of the resonator coils this would effectively offset it from the power tap coil right? So lessened inductive coupling.
Now here is the beauty, the magnets may be acting as magnetic diode of sorts pushing the pulses in one direction more or is it just assisting the coupling of the coils? Maybe both.
I have not yet tried this but will do so shortly, my time is constrained and I will not be able to get to to building this right away but I wanted to get this out to the masses for feedback.
I have attached a PDF showing the idea, for an oscillator you could use your favorite design or use EM's which can be found in the Mini Tesla thread here on OU. The form for the coils is rather easy, can use some plastic tubing or plexiglass if you want to make it look like the open TPU. Some of you may already have the required materials on hand (no cost but your time). The real trick is to match the coils/resonators and make sure you can control the oscillator since if I am right the coils will self feed (circular feedback loop) and the oscillator will continue to kick the pulse around the circle. The magnetic field is required to provide the starting bias for the coils. All of these materials will make a rather light device, similar in weight to the TPU as it was claimed.
Now for another take on this idea, it is possible that the TPU itself was nothing more than a receiver for the power that was transmitted from somewhere close by, the TPU was nothing more than a resonator coil with its power tap/coil and the magnet may have just allowed it to connect to the power source. If this was the case then it was a scam of sorts and SM just built Tesla's MT in miniature. The only way I see to prove it one way or the other is to build the unit and try both possibilities. If you recall marco did build a similar device that did work on these principles.
I have also attached the MIT article for reference as well as the Molina doc. All are kind of related.
I could be full of Sh*t but who knows? Lets see...
Hey Carl :)
I truly think we are dealing with something entirely diffrent in the SM Show.
M.
marco,
Could be but I am exploring all possibilities. I really do think SM has not provided us all the info and may have provided incorrect info along with the correct thus confusing us. Also mannix was the conduit and may have not provided all the info either. Now I am not saying he has done this intentionally, but everyone interprets info in their own way. Was SM's deception intentional, who knows, so we need to explore all. I find it interesting that all of these types of devices have similarities to one another don't you?
I am going to follow my current concept to see what it provides. I do believe we all need to follow our ideas to see if they bear any fruit and get us closer to the end goal right?
I don't believe that SM has only build Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter, because in one video SM went outside of his house und the TPU does still function.
I think in the magnifying transmitter the coils must have good arranged in the room... You can't take one coil off its position without losing transmission.
Moreover, why should SM fake it ? Definitely not for his personal fun...
@Starcruiser,
I am going to get heretical for a moment and say forget SM and even Tesla for a minute. If you were a hunter and going to hunt a
deer you would use very different technique and bullets and timing etc as oppsed to if you went to kill a rabbit!.
Get fixed in your mind what is this source of energy that you are going to tap into? Just winding wires and applying different
frequencies etc will only take you where all these TPU threads are.
Once you have identified the source of your energy, then use the knowledge gained from Tesla or any other VERIFIABLE source to help you capture it. You may decide on your own that a hexagonal or even a cubical structure might provide a better frame work for your energy device.
God luck
AM
P.S. I am not a guru so, references to alternate shapes for the energy converter is just an encouragement to make you think outside the box.
Why is evreybody hunting the source?
It is not important where it is comming from what is important is that it is there.
Quote from: AhuraMazda on February 17, 2008, 04:53:14 PM
Get fixed in your mind what is this source of energy that you are going to tap into? Just winding wires and applying different
frequencies etc will only take you where all these TPU threads are.
AM
And where exactly is that?
M.
@Marco
I am sure you know the answer. You have been on this and other forums longer than me!
@anyone interested
Suggested sources of power:
Free electrons in the atmosphere
Interaction of Earth's magnetic field with a normal magnets
Some interaction between gravity and magnets
Cosmic radiation bombarding the Earth
Disturbances in the stratosphere due to 1000's of lightening strikes per second
Exploiting some anomaly in the way perhaps a certain metal reacts when subjected to electrical pulses
There are others but it is 1AM and my brain is shutting down.
AM
some more tries:
maybe:
it is proton's energy it is really strong, if to move it a little maybe it moves strongly back
mass=energy*speed, something slows down=you get energy
mass=energy*speed , something moving near slows down=you get energy
or electrostatic energy
remember a taping water experiment (seen on youtube) that the water taps into two large metal cans with crossed wires with rings on the ends. as the water taps int to ring-1 that under to can-2 and water taps int to ring-2 that under to can-1 then you get a large spark between the cans
can it be done with coils and magnetic particles?
Quote from: -[marco]- on February 17, 2008, 10:17:43 AM
Hey Carl :)
I truly think we are dealing with something entirely diffrent in the SM Show.
M.
yep i think i second that lol
ist
If you look at Wardenclyffe's underground design it appears Tesla was using the Earth as an inductor. Then his tower most likely had a tesla pancake coil on top. These coils are actually capacitors. They are very low selfinductance so they hold the energy like a capacitor. Then Tesla gets the whole deal resonating with spark gap discharges which were pretty much the only way to create an oscillator in those days. Now the whole tower is set about vibrating but the current inside the lc tank circuit is conserved the way Tesla liked it. Down in the ground is this huge sattelite dish but it is buried where it can intercept any incoming currents that are responding to the magnetic field of the vertical inductor legs current. They are collecting the backemf of the inductor legs of the tower.
So basically he is creating a stationary bolt of lightning relative to the Earth and collecting the incoming and outgoing magnetic fields on his satellite dish buried in the crust. What he was planning to do with this magnetic beast down there was what I question.
SM's designs do look like it utilized a vertical oscillator. Even his big one cut apart seems to have aluminum at the base of the coil and bailing wire around the base of his smaller ones. This metal becomes the inductor in the lc circuit and the torroidal coil the receiver of incoming magnetic field fluctuations. Very much like Tesla's towers.
Maybe we should be burying the tpu's? ::) There has got to be a bunch of magnetic fields running around under our feet. Lightning strikes/ magnetosphere response due to the solar wind/ Earth's magnetic response to traversing the sun's magnetic field at 67,000 miles per hour./ man-made currents from distribution circuits./ telluric currents/ dynamic anomally of the molten iron core spin/ tectonic piezo electric currents/ All of the listed with magnetic mirrors of their currents.
@sparks
"Then his tower most likely had a tesla pancake coil on top. These coils are actually capacitors"
I strongly disagree with this, reason being that he paid top dollar for custom plates to fit together tight without ridges.. The sphere or hemisphere at the top is the capicator and he wanted it extra smooth so it wouldn't leak.
This device has nothing to do with magnifying transmitter . Its a conversion transformer thats all.
Joe
Lets see, in the actual SM device we have two toroidal coils connected together of different radii carrying magnetic flux in opposite directions. Spacetime curvature is distorted by the bucking electric fields along the centerline of the coils according to Maxwell. We see negative mass spikes which open a small portal into hyperspace. Low density hyperspace energy will then enter into our dimension which, in the Mark device, is converted into electrical energy.
Quote from: AhuraMazda on February 17, 2008, 07:03:35 PM
@Marco
I am sure you know the answer. You have been on this and other forums longer than me!
@anyone interested
Suggested sources of power:
Free electrons in the atmosphere
Interaction of Earth's magnetic field with a normal magnets
Some interaction between gravity and magnets
Cosmic radiation bombarding the Earth
Disturbances in the stratosphere due to 1000's of lightening strikes per second
Exploiting some anomaly in the way perhaps a certain metal reacts when subjected to electrical pulses
There are others but it is 1AM and my brain is shutting down.
AM
Quote from: mflynn44 on April 04, 2008, 12:28:12 PM
Spacetime curvature is distorted by the bucking electric fields along the centerline of the coils according to Maxwell.
Could you please post where you found this little tidbit of information, or if you figured it out yourself, how?
Thanks!
Eldarion
@local joe
Housed inside the dome would be where I would think he would have his capacitor winding. The dome could then be used to as a radiator.
How would you describe what was going on underground?
That Wardenclyffe was just a means to let the people think the energy was comming from there.
It's primary use must have been something close to transmitting radio signals for communication etc.
Tesla already knew how to build the recievers and that the energy comming out of them was already present.
M.
Quote from: Frederic2k1 on February 17, 2008, 03:13:34 PM
I don't believe that SM has only build Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter, because in one video SM went outside of his house und the TPU does still function.
I think in the magnifying transmitter the coils must have good arranged in the room... You can't take one coil off its position without losing transmission.
Moreover, why should SM fake it ? Definitely not for his personal fun...
Distance is not a problem.
--giantkiller.
Could Tesla have been planning to transmit scalar em waves into the Earth? Get the tower slapping the ground with lots of scalar waves and using the network of miles of iron pipe in tunnels surrounding the tower legs to amplify the vibrations? The oscillator currents traveling between the capacitive dome and using the Earth down around 300' as his inductor. How exactly Earth would respond to such a slap in the face would be interesting to find out. When he did this out in Colorado men working on underground piping miles away reported coronal activity between the pipes and surrounding sand.
If SM was able to get his pulse energy in phase with the magnetic field response then he was creating scalar emwaves within the interior of his kick coils. These waves confined to the interior physical field of the kick coils
influence the collector coil windings which acts as a receiving antennae for the scalar waves. If you put iron in there the magnetic field response of the iron goes beyond your initiator windings and your scalar waves convert into RE and you start burning up shit.