HI im new .
have you ever wondered why we dont tap into the unused radio waves around us for power ? well some do and im researching it right now , my interest started when i read of a shepherd whod popped two coils about 100 foot of sheep netting on a hill 100 feet up and insulated from the ground and then he dug a hole and placed a large grounding plate (coppper or brass) gold may be cheaper nowadays..lol in the hole and threw a bit of earth in and watered it well it was basicallt a sheet 6 foot by 6foot. to this hed bolted a good heavy earth with which he led into his cottage the two wires were now fitted with diodes to allow any power to go only forwards to his old car bulb on a table . he had had the foresight to incorporate a lightning arrester as well just in case which consisted or the spark gap variety . we he swirtched it on and it was too bright so he put two bulbs on it . then a friend came to see how much he was getting from it and over a year the average was an amazing 25volts . but low amperage ...after this got out he disapeared or was paid off . but it got me wondering and since then have seen many designs to utilise all the unseen radio waves and solar generated radio waves , has there been many of you doing this on here or am i the only one trying to develop what is in effect an air transducer fro radio waves 9of course im looking at full spectrum waves via individually packed aerials in one stick ) any ideas on this topic gratefully recieved
We don't use radio waves as soure of energy becase they have low power. People need power at minimum 1KW up to unlimited. Small power is welcome for handheld devices, but something big as 100 feet can't be handheld. Solar energy is welcome, but most intensive in near light spectrum(and light included). Some people try to collect electrostatic charge from air, but it's to expensive and big.
hi
I take your point very well that is why we are trying to create a small
antenna that will collect the same as the large antenna but without the physical size , my theory is that as nearly all comms and tv etc will soon be digital in the uk and the fact that the wavelength is so small, then physical problems are no longer encountered , so what we are working on (its not a secret) is a device incorporating a million such aerials within a small area capable of being strapped to a uk chimney and not be obtrusive , unlike the ill fated wind generators from b and q , whom im sure have had the insurers gasping . where i live we do get incredible amounts of wind ..........sometimes..........and a large mechanical generator would not survive our latest winds as even largish tv aerials succumb quickly.
therefore you may understand my interest in developing the digital aerial for more collective type uses .
we have worked on other wavelengths as well and found that it is feasable to develop a mast only twenty feet by i foot diameter that would give an output of about 20-30v continuously but it would be incorporating all wavelengths and cost would be prohibitive , our mast was a small scaled down version and produced 2 v but to be useful we considered 20 foot mast as only option .
we have already made a passable gravity motor but work has stopped on it due to financial problems , so at moment all is being fed into constructing a usesful over unity device and we are at this moment replicating chas campbells experiment , which if it works as good as it seems we will let you all know . once its finsihed and working our idea is to miniaturise it for use in other applications ,
he is a brilliant man and wed dearly love to meet him , we are hoping to have his device working by end april as we have a tv company interested in our group and they want something to look at and we will be inviting mr campbell over once it works ,but it all takes time but while we do one thing our minds are always looking searching for that one nugget of information that will let us all stop wasting what is around us ,
we have found what we think is the inspiration for mr campbell in that the gearing and flywheel are very simaialar to that of a friction toy of the 60s and i believe are still made.......interesting ..
we stretch from england to michigan and there are seven of us in total, but like everyone else we are poor people working in barns etc just like most, our aim is to give cheap water and power to every person , we are not wanting millions for ourselves but just a fair living would be nice . MEGG is our golden egg and all i can tell you about it is that it is 18inches by 3 inches and can power a three bed house easily and should last till it wears out .we have high hope or it and have seen the big banks , but they want us to produce it in quantity , why is that a problem ,,,,welllll money as usual ....
plus it has to be made of brass this metal in this country is very very expensive now thats why weve ceased doing it .
and are looking at something we can do to raise enought to finance Megg.
Our aim eventually is to have a institute to give grants and bring all inventors together in one place to develop all ideas to fruition , we trawl the internet daily for good ideas , and one day when we have achieved our goal will contact all theses people and see if they would like to work in an environment that does not discourage blue sky thinking where we would finance them to the hilt,
we have suffered becuase of our gravity motor in that one of us has been murdered and i myself have nearly been forced off the road by persons or persons unknown , my friend wayne who was murdered (the same week he found out how we could make megg work) was a very nice good person who would not have hurt a fly but had a brilliant mind . the more the fat cats try to destroy people like us the more deteermined we are to carry on . and im sure we will succeeed in the end , as when we started we were only two in number , now we are seven.
What my frined found that was so fatal for him was an equation.
that equation was 1 to ratio of a half square root five plus one this is known commonly as the golden section , but if applied as we did it cures one big problem , and we found can be used in many ways to find solutions to other problems . id reccomend you look at it in the mathematical and physical was as much as possible .
we welcome all comments and ideas
samantha
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Hundreds small antennas, will not help to add the energy by 100 (ref, to one antenna)
If they ar all tuned on same frequency.
Only the test with 2 tuned antenna circuits will you learn this.
2.---
if you talk fron 30 volts .
this is "hot air" . This say nothimg because you dont say anything over milliamperes ot watt?s
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sure , it give financial problems . if you can not say. "WE have find to catch " 100 or 1000
watt?s from air , universe , ether , radioation or ...(some others)
4.---
an MEGG is an "fine invention" . Nobody will have this. Nobody give money to develop this.
The Industry have interests to stop this. Because he will sell enery !
If this invention is finish and working on you table . You have only ONE chance to sell
this to Energy-Industry at an price that THEY will offer you (you have not other chance).
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No one can have more chance than TESLA to made happy the people .
The finance interest from anybody will disturb any possibility to make such devices public.
Pese
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We can use radio waves for producing power. Crystal radios are a prime example as well as a good way to start. The crystal radio uses no out side power source nor does it use battery?s. It does produce enough energy to fire a voice coil. That voice coils movement can be utilized to create electricity. Not only that, but it can also be used to get rid of gates with in permanent magnet motors by using the magnetic field that it creates.
Think about it and you should understand what I am talking about.
This next video shows one and note the static it has. That is what you need to pulse to get the permanent magnet motors passed the sticky points.
When the static is present, it creates a magnetic field in a voice coil, Due to static being continuous, you are supplied with a constant current to the voice coil. Activate that current just after center of a magnets polarity. You will then get a repelling effect. the coil and magnets polarity's that face each other will have to be matched, meaning both would have to be a north or a south.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkdYBIS-NSI&feature=related
Not only can a voice coil be used to repell, but if the polarity is swtched at the right times, they can also be used to attract and repel. This would give the motor more torque.
The size of the antenna coil would determine the power that can be achieved as well as linking them together with others. Linking them one way gives you voltage and another gives you amperage.
I think I have done it. This maybe what I have been searching for.
Thank you for starting this forum and letting me get involved.
Es ist nicht m?glich mit einem abgestimmten Antennenkreis
?berall solche Leistungen zu ziehen.
Ich lebte (1950) 1km von einem Mittelwellensender 900 khz. (Detedtor-Empf?nger)
Es hat gen?gt f?r einen kleinen Lautsprecher.
Direkt am Sender habe ich kleine Lampe zum leuchten gebracht.
In Berlin haben Gartenvereine Ihre G?rten beleuchtet mit Deutschlanfunk , der dort direkt angrenzte.
Das ist verboten wordenm weil die Leistung dem Sender "entnommen" wird.
Die Feldst?rke eine Senders (Leistung) sinkt quatratisch mit der Entfernung.
Auf diese Art gibt es NICHTS "frei" zu nehmen !!
Pese
It is not possible with a concerted antenna circle
Such services everywhere.
I lived (1950)
1km from a AM Transmitter 900khz.
It suffices for a small speaker. (with crystal-radio)
Directly on the transmitter, I have little lamp to glow.
In Berlin, garden clubs your gardens illuminated with Deutschlanfunk, there angrenzte directly.
That is forbidden wordenm because the performance of the channel "removed".
The field strength of a transmitter (power) quatratisch decreases with the distance.
In this way, there is nothing "free" to take!
Pese
pese, I am not talking about the actual signals from the stations, I am talking about the static.
Here is another way. Take the coil and put a long magnet in the middle of it. The coil will travel up and down the magnet depending on the polarity. Then you place that configuration inside a coil that is the same length of the magnet. As the voice coil moves back and fourth, it will create a electrical current in the outer coil that can be used as a power source.
and what makes the coil move then? If you tap all the electrical fluctuations in the coils,
there should not really be much movement left of any kind...
and you're saying you can rectify pure "static" noise into usable energy levels
using a simple high-ohmic crystal detector?
That's quite odd... as crystal radios only work due to the fact that the radio
signals are AM, and it is this amplitude difference that causes the voice signal
output...
Does your "static" circuit also work in a faraday cage? After all, you may be picking
up "static", but you can't really be sure that is not powered by radio transmitters
somewhere down the line, unless you shield it...
Koen1, good questions and I will have to build one first to find out. I have found out that there are other things that can be used in the place of a crystal. I will do some test to find out.
As far as the faraday cage, it should not work because of it requiring a signal unless the signal is in the cage with it. Meaning that a antenna was placed out side of the cage and then attached to the radio.
To hear anything out of a voice coil requires the voice coil to move. It is used to move a cone to make sound but you take the cone away and it still moves the coil. The cone keeps the coil from coming completely away from the magnet. The static should come from any vibrations within the frequency level.
It will make for a good experiment.
My theory and concept works people.
By moving one coil back and fourth passed a stationary magnetic, you produce power and that power can then be absorbed by a coil that surrounds the two. The power absorbed is much more powerful then the power used pulse the inner coil to get it to create movement. This new, more powerful source, then can be used to power it's self and yet have power left to power something else. Using the back EMF off the pulsing coil would help keep it cool which would add to it's efficiency.
There you go people, the answer to over unity and free power.
@nightlife:
What comes to mind here is a recollection of one theory of the operation of SM's tpu, namely, that the iron core wire vibrates within another system of coils, all of which are connected by some circuitry. Somehow, (assuming no skulduggery), a substantial excess energy is entrained by the system. An interesting analogy, anyway, and best of luck to you on this line of work...
Some things that have me concerned with your model:
1. The long magnet and short coil: the coil will respond to a changing magnetic flux, however, the flux in the magnet is contained almost entirely within its bulk. Since nearly all of the magnetic flux emanates from the poles of the magnet, very little current would have to flow in the short voice coil to accommodate the small change in flux through the coil as it moves.
2. "regular" dynamos/motors are characterized by the movment of coils and magnets in relation to one another. Anyone who has pedaled a bicycle equipped with an old-fashioned headlight dynamo knows that when the light is switched on, the dynamo gets a LOT harder to turn. In your setup, we have a dynamo, of sorts, except that it is inductively coupled to the load, with the coupling taking place at the same location as the generation. Now exactly how does this twist lead to the "answer to overunity and free power", as you proclaim?
@nightlife,
did you yet build it ?
If you draw current from the outer coil
you will have again Lenz law dragging the
magnet?s motion down,
so do you really have more energy out than energy put in
via the inner coil?s pulse ?
Many thanks.
zerotensor and hartiberlin, hang in there, I will have video footage soon. I made a couple changes that make a unbelievable difference. It is going to take me a couple more days and it may not be till this weekend before I am done. You all will be very happy with the results.
I do have a couple questions though.
How long do relays last?
Does anyone have a link for a good 12 volt battery source?
I was told that a new battery has been created that holds ten times the charge and last up to 10 times longer then the average car battery. Has anyone else heard of this battery and if so, do you have a link to their site?
They said the world was flat, humans will never fly, and the moon is made out of cheese. Don't tell Nightlife it won't work. Maybe he can make it work. If not he'll know a way it doesn't work.
@nightlife:
Well it's an interesting approach... but somewhat similar to the "Newman coil"
experiments some people did a few years back, where they also had a smaller
coil inside a larger one, in some cases with and in others without permanent
magnets... Their smaller coils also "jumped" (the coil arrangement was usually
oriented vertically) and some claimed ou power. But then it kind of died,
and this is the first I've seen of it since.
How do you allow for movement of the smaller coil, while maintaining an electrical
connection?
Or is the "trick" you're using to "tap" the smaller coils energy by direct induction
into the surrounding larger coil? ("wireless" current transfer)
For some reason I tend to prefer full solid state devices with no moving parts,
and that includes smaller coils moving back and forth...
Instead of moving the coil back and forth, could we not have the smaller coil
sit fixed, with fixed connections, and have a controller circuit move the connections
back and forth?
It's just a wild idea and I haven't actually thought it through yet, it just occurred to me...
You know, like they used to do in the early radios; they used a coil that was connected
to a fixed point on one end, and an adjustable electrode that could be slid up or down
over the coil, so that it only made contact with a specific winding of the coil. This way,
the coil could effectively be made lnger and shorter at will, and this allowed the operator
to tune into different frequencies. Now I'm not proposing to actually use this type
of tuner, but I am referring to the mechanism for changing coil length.
If we were to make two of such adjustable or "slidable" connectors at a fixed distance
from eachother, we could slide both at the same time, which seems to be effectively
similar to moving a smaller coil of that fixed length back and forth. Ok, so far the
analogy with moving parts.
Now for a solid state version of this, instead of physically sliding the connectors
to another position to effectively slide the entire "coil" to that position, we could
make a number of permanent connections to the coil, and have a controller circuit
"shift" through the different connections in a similar way...
Again, it is just a wild suggestion, and if I work the idea out it may very well
turn out that it doesn't have the desired effect at all.
As for the new battery, I have not heard anything about that...
I have heard of a "new" "battery" to be used in cars, but it is actually not
a new battery at all, it is just an old battery with a better type of dielectric
for isolation. The dielecric used is claimed to be ferroelectric, but I am a little
sceptical about that... After all, if they're using ferroelectric plate seperators,
they would theoretically have a ferroelectric capacitor, and as we know
a properly built ferroelectric capacitor circuit can be used to transduce
environmental heat into elecal output, making it an electricity-producing
air cooling unit...
And the exact right type of ferroelectric capacitor to do that is not commercially
available anywhere; it has been said that the US army actually restricted
production in the US.
Anyway, if it were anything "cutting edge" like that, it would probably be classified
and surely be mentioned in the ads ("Our battery also cools your engine and produces
excess energy. Even if the engine is not hot to begin with."), and besides that
there would be much better uses for such tech than using it merely as a car battery.
(I imagine refrigerators with a power outlet in the side and an energy saving lamp
above it, which just sits there fridging your food, turning the absorbed heat into power,
and you can just walk up to it and plug in your pc... ;))
(http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/nzaevncp.htm for info on that concept)
Koen1, I moved this to a new thread so I wouldn't take the attention away from this persons thread as I have with other threads.
As far as the movement goes, it would have to be set up on a tension coil to keep tension on the wires attached to the coil. the tension coil would then have to be utilized to capture the energy it would produce. Every moving part and every vibration has to be utilized just to achieve close to 100% efficiency within the design. That in it's self is a trick do to vibrations being able to flow thru anything depending on it's vibrancy. Everything must stay tight with very little clearance and or escape routes for the vibrations to escape from the designs resistance.
When a vibration is created, it is most vibrant at the precise point of resistance made and it diminishes from then on. The trick is to use that vibration to create another more vibrant vibration. That is why we need to use magnets.
I still have a lot to learn here as well as I do with circuitry. I am just not educated enough in these fields to be even trying to attempt this. My lack of circuitry education is really a major fall back for me and I am finding this out as I try build something. It is trying me nuts. LOL
I don't have a clue about the TPU in which I think you are talking about. That is way beyond my level of education on circuitry. I am full of concepts but I am finding that I have a lot to learn as far as what to use to build them. I am finding that certain gauged wires are needed for certain strengths of magnets as well as for the certain speeds of the magnets movement to achieve the best results.
I moved my idiotic concepts to http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4221.0.html