Hi guys,
I'm thinking of building a bedini motor. I have no idea where to start, but I am skilled in electronics and have an electronic engineering background. The thought of developing power sources that can not only sustain themselves but put out more power, sounds too good to be true. I have seen most of the videos and spent the last week reading most links on the internet regarding overunity engines
Is there a book or plan/formular to start with that can generate more than unity.
I have a mates who are quite wealthy and skilled in production/electronics also and if given the advice to kick this off, can between us build anything described. However, without definite plans to start with, I feel loath to proceed.
Over unity is such a great concept. I believe in it, but have no idea where to start. Guys, Please don't dis me over my ignorance.
I need advice on how to start and need some real circuits and inexpensive designs to start with to prove that overunity is real to my friend who I'm sure will finance some extravagant experiments with me - the plans and results of which we will freely share.
Free energy means not only free from the government and universe, but free to world knowledge.
If anyone can asist me please send responses to mytrek@iprimus.com.au
Sorry guys address is mythtek@iprimus.com.au
Howdy MythTek,
I am skeptical about your intentions. There is a plethora of FE/OU device plans and information on the internet. All you have to do is search for it. That is how I found this site. If you want some commercially available plans, devices or books you can check out this site:
Information Unlimited
http://www.amazing1.com/
This site has real equipment, not toys. You want a Million Volt Tesla Coil, yeah, they got it!
You want a book that will TOTALLY blow your mind?
Check out the Awesome Life Force by Joesph H. Cater.
http://www.healthresearchbooks.com/pages/book_detail.php?pid=162
Maybe you are not really that serious. Maybe you want some beginner, or intermediate level stuff to cut your teeth on. All this FE/OU stuff is all about how energy propagates through physical and aetheric space and time. A good way to learn about that is to study, and I mean really study how a crystal radio set works. Study it until it resonates within your soul.
http://www.crystalradio.net/howitworks/index.shtml
Then there are all the great classic inventors, and all the cool stuff they built. Nicola Tesla, Thomas Alva Edison, Alfred M. Hubbard, Thomas Henry Moray, Tom Bearden, Henry Ford, Moray B. King, John Searle, Wilhelm Reich, the list goes on and on... Search for any of these people on the internet.
Then, if you really, really want to spend a bundle, build a Z-Machine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_machine
http://zpinch.sandia.gov/
There is so much information out there that it will keep you busy for decades...
Have Fun!
Quote from: mythtek on March 04, 2008, 06:12:32 AM
I'm thinking of building a bedini motor.
You can start by looking at this:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=u1YOAAAAEBAJ&dq=6,545,444 (http://www.google.com/patents?id=u1YOAAAAEBAJ&dq=6,545,444)
No one has ever gotten it to actually work though.
there's tons and tons of info out there on alleged OU/FE devices.
It all depends on what specific type of device you're lookign to build,
and how much you believe it will work...
Most of the OU/FE device info is about people experimenting away
and encountering interesting effects. Most of them figure out the
effects, although interesting, do not produce OU/FE at all sooner
or later, then move on to a different design (sometimes a new design
of the same device, sometimes a completely different design).
If you really want to build a FE/OU device of the elecrical circuitry
and/or electric motor/generator type, patents and suggested designs
are very usefull, but you will probably still have to do quite some
work and research of your own to finetune your understanding of
the processes involved and the effects observed...
In my personal opinion the greatest chance for OU/FE development is
in the field of electrical components, by which I mean to say that I think
the real OU/FE breakthrought will depend on the development of new
and as yet not developed or at least not commercially available types
of electronic components that show "unnatural" characteristics.
I could speculate about nanotech and metamaterials here, but I would
actually like to point out the Fogal "semiconductor", the ferroelectric
capacitor array (http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/nzaevncp.htm), as examples
of known "oddball" components (that are being suppressed, by the way).
another very interesting (and also solid-state) approach is along the lines
of the MEG and similar permanent magnet driven "flux capture" devices,
one of the easiest to replicate seems to be the one described in this
patent (application): http://www.magneticpowerinc.com/patent.html
As (I assume) you know, patented designs may be built for private use
and research purposes, as long as there is zero commercial gain and
zero commercial exploitation of the repication, so you can just go ahead
an replicate that patent, and run tests. It would be great to have someone
actually give independant test data on that, because that company doesn't
really say anything other than "it works! we are fantastic!" and that's pretty
useless of course.
If you are planning to replicate anything, do make sure you use proper materials.
I have heard of a number of attempted device replications that clearly failed
because the materials used were of poor quality or did not have the preferred
characteristics (electrodynamically speaking).
I agree with what the others before me posted.here in this thread.For me my quest for free energy began with the Tom Bearden website.He explains how its supposed to work.He even has a couple of devices hes working on.Just do a websearch on his name.His website will pop up.triffid
@mythtek
Get yourself a copy of Thomas Bearden and John Bedini's books. They are called "Energy from the Vacuum" and "Free Energy Generation". You can get them off amazon. If you want something quick, sometime you can find them on bittorrent.
There is no existing device under GPL which can be duplicated, however I think we are less than 18 months away from something. There are literally TONS of ways to engineer free energy. The most promising areas of research are Bedini systems, TPUs, resonantly coupled feedback motors, Bearden's solid-state sharp gradient pulsed DC Aharonov-Bohm physics (exposing the A potential by infolding the B field), EMdevices latest idea with AC resonant tank circuit, etc.
So basically, there are many promising leads. We are very close. Your best bet is to educate yourself as much as you can , try experiments and device replications so you come up with new ideas and approaches.
Quote from: shruggedatlas on March 04, 2008, 11:46:40 AM
Quote from: mythtek on March 04, 2008, 06:12:32 AM
I'm thinking of building a bedini motor.
You can start by looking at this:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=u1YOAAAAEBAJ&dq=6,545,444 (http://www.google.com/patents?id=u1YOAAAAEBAJ&dq=6,545,444)
No one has ever gotten it to actually work though.
Lol are you serious? Do you mean no one has gotten a monopole to work? I have four at home that all run fine. Thousands of people have replicated the monopole in hundreds of different variations. Most people jump to the conclusion that the simple sg are overunity and that is incorrect. They are designed for a beginner to understand the basic concepts and can be run at unity or close to when built correctly. Thats without factoring in the rotating wheel. Check out Bedini replication in Germany thread for starters.
I agree with Z.monkey here. IF you are interested in building a device then there are thousands of them to choose from. If you are interested in Bedini in particular I can offer some advice as to some of his more advanced models. I would suggest building a simple sg one first to grasp the concepts. You can move on to multicoilers and/or window motors. The Adams motor is also a viable option, sharing similarities with the monopole. Check out Hoptoads page here www.totallyamped.net/adams for more info on circuitry. No matter what path you chose I think you will find yourself questioning what you may think you know about electricity.... Good luck. ;)
@ shruggedatlas
I have just read the last 2 pages of your entries in this forum EVERY SINGLE POST IS NEGATIVE not a single positive thing to say!
Very interesting would you say.... I doubt it!
I think you have just exposed yourself to me via your profile.
Now you stand naked before us all.
:-*
And by the way, my 'proof of concept' Bedini SG works very well indeed
I would post my youtube channel link so you can see it but I think, as a sceptic, you would just say something negative.
Remember, LOVE is the dominant force in the Universe
Amen brother
Bravo Bourne,
Ye shall know them by their works (and words).
I had suspected that there were spies in our midst.
Fear not the Evil, for their own bad karma will do them in.
Fear NOT thy fellow man, for if he should unjustly challenge
you then call upon the power of GOD to strike fear in their
hearts, and YOU shall prevail in righteousness!
Blessed Be, Brothers!
BOURNE i agree to much negative from some folks its like poison sends good people away Chet
Yes, I am a skeptic, but I want to see free energy also. However, I stand by my claim, which, to be precise, is that no one has produced any device that produces more energy that it consumes. If you have an example of an overunity device that can continually power even a small light bulb for days without any fuel, please, let us see it. Furthermore, you can even get your $1 Million from the Randi Challenge.
shrug stick around a little bit its here bustin out all over
Those people who are successful at OU/FE are very timid to release it to the world.
We live in a world where the unfamiliar is feared. This usually leads to mob rules,
pitchforks, torches, shotguns, lynchings, and supersonic interceptors.
Also this world has a proven history of KILLING innovators...
Prove yourself worthy of the information, and it will be revealed, real easy, huh...
Quote from: z.monkey on March 09, 2008, 09:26:12 PM
Those people who are successful at OU/FE are very timid to release it to the world.
We live in a world where the unfamiliar is feared. This usually leads to mob rules,
pitchforks, torches, shotguns, lynchings, and supersonic interceptors.
I see people say this alot, but this is simply not true. Put free energy aside, for a moment. Thing about all the other revolutionary innovations that we have seen in the 19th through the 21st century. Electricity, internal combusion engine, telephone, television, cell phones, integrated circtuit, computers, aviation, vaccines, the Internet, email, etc. These are truly revolutionary inventions that changed the world. Yet, by and large, the inventors were not threatened for revealing their inventions, and there were no riots in the streets. These inventions and others of similar caliber, while perhaps initially criticized by people who did not see their immediate usefulness, generally received a warm response.
What makes free energy different? I know, the oil companies do not want to lose their monopolies. But wait, lots of these great inventions supplanted an existing dominant industry. Cars replaces the horse and buggy industry. Light bulbs replaced the candle making industry. Internet telephony is cutting profit away from the big voice carriers. The examples are endless. Heck, look at solar and wind power today. Is Big Oil hiring hitmen to destroy the solar and wind people? There is no evidence of this.
OU/FE is different because it is a renewable resource of universal proportions.
It is a threat because it doesn't require a manufactured fuel product to sustain it.
The automobile replaced the horse and buggy, but now we are buying gas instead
of oats. Electric light replaced candles but now we are buying light bulbs instead
of candles. When OU/FE replaces transmission line power there will be no manufactured
product to replace the resource. An OU/FE device will produce power continuously
and the are no dues to pay the local monopoly. The only way that there could be
any sort of monopoly on FE/OU is if the information is suppressed and only "authorized"
manufacturers can produce OU/FE devices. Well, free information will do away with
any sort of monopoly on OU/FE. We intend to make information available in such
detail that a middle school kid can produce a device sufficient to last them their
entire lifetime.
But, in retrospect, the powers that be do not advertise that they are actively suppressing
alternative technology. Also the travesties that occur are very carefully covered, with
sufficient alternative explanations provided which keep the public totally in the dark.
Listen to your spirit, it is the one entity on Earth that won't lie to you. The OU/FE
endeavor is perhaps the most dangerous thing you can involve yourself in.
I would like to believe that you are on the level. We can always use another ally.
There are wicked forces in the world. What is seemingly good, may be in fact be very evil.
Walk carefully and let those who would be your friend earn your trust.
Blessed Be....
Quote from: z.monkey on March 09, 2008, 10:04:51 PM
OU/FE is different because it is a renewable resource of universal proportions.
It is a threat because it doesn't require a manufactured fuel product to sustain it.
The automobile replaced the horse and buggy, but now we are buying gas instead
of oats.
I see what you are saying, but just because in other products, say cars versus horses and buggies, we are using a substitute fuel, does not make it any less of a complete loss for the particular industry that is being phased out. (The people selling oats were not selling oil too.) For example, if the world went with wind and geothermal and solar energy, and completely phased out fossil fuels, this would be a complete and total loss to the oil-producing nations and for oil & gas industry. And aside from a few instances of luddite behavior, recent history is fairly free of any mass violent response from the side going into obsolescence.
But anyway, if you have something, good for you, and if you want to keep it secret out of fear for your personal safety, you are within your right. I also suspect my words are falling on deaf ears in general. If someone has this irrational fear of going public, nothing I say is likely to persuade them, as they will assume I am one of the men in black.
Quote from: shruggedatlas on March 09, 2008, 09:16:41 PM
Yes, I am a skeptic, but I want to see free energy also. However, I stand by my claim, which, to be precise, is that no one has produced any device that produces more energy that it consumes. If you have an example of an overunity device that can continually power even a small light bulb for days without any fuel, please, let us see it. Furthermore, you can even get your $1 Million from the Randi Challenge.
Well a solar panel doesnt consume any energy and it has an output? It is all about how you tap natures energy. A water wheel will continue to turn if placed in a waterfall. Then again you will probably say that water is the fuel. In that case there is no device that does what you say, as there is always a source/fuel. I think the important factor is whether WE have to physically pay for it.
I was reading some interesting information about the simple air compressor the other day. Unconfirmed by myself but coming from a reliable source:
100% percent of the energy consumed to compress air is converted to heat. Capture all that heat and youve got more out than what you've put in no?
Hey Ren,
Yeah your right about the solar cell not needing manufactured resources. It's probably the closest thing to OU/FE that we have so far. And, in the case or solar cells and OU/FE, the devices it's self is what is manufactured and there is (and will be) a market for these devices. The output energy is essentially free, or at least gets cheaper the longer the device is running.
In the case of your compressor, you have to put it to the test. OU/FE means energy out is greater than energy in. Which in something like a compressor will have several forms of energy that you are dealing with. The electric motor can be easily measured. It's power is converted to mechanical energy to compress air. To measure that you would have to gauge the work that is being done with with the output air. Then also there are frictional losses that result in heat being generated. That is also not so easy to measure. I guess that an regular air compressor is like 25% efficient. So find a way to measure the energy in, easy, and the energy out, not so easy, and you can verify the results for yourself.
All things that output energy require input energy, and OU/FE is no different. A solar cell is only like 20% efficient. It converts photons to electrons. The reason it is only 20% efficient is that it requires a quantity of photons to make 1 electron. But the solar cell seems like free energy because we don't have to provide it with fuel to work, the photons are the "fuel".
The water wheel is probably very efficient being a mechanical device, and the efficiency would depend on the coupling between the the wheel and the device doing the work, say a grain mill. Again the water is the "fuel".
But in the case of OU/FE there is "fuel" also. Albeit a largely misunderstood fuel. The all electrical OU/FE exploits a little known source of energy called soft particles. The OU/FE device scavenges soft particles and breaks them into electrons. The electrons then provide the energy output. The difference between soft particles and say oil is they cannot be hoarded. They cannot be accumulated in tanks then sold by a ration. They occur freely in nature and when captured, instantly break down into electrons. In this case, unlike solar cells, the captured particle breaks down into electrons. This makes it a lot more efficient, but still not over 100% efficient. But because we are not perceiving the soft particles it seems like its free. We measure the exciter power (relatively small) and the collector power (relatively large) and see a power gain, but we cannot measure the portion of soft particles that are captured, so we don't know the true efficiency. Again I suspect that it will not be more that 100%, and that it does not violate the law of conservation of energy. BUT, it is a universally available and ultra clean power source, far better than oil.
solar cell, electrically say 25% efficient in conversion. Co efficient of performance is infinite, life of the panel (and the sun for that matter)