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Title: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Drannom on March 05, 2008, 01:59:27 AM
Hello

How to make sharp pyramids ? I say grow them !

That is what i am teaching how to do in my youtube videos !

http://youtube.com/user/cristallerie

I post it now cause many members are studying resonating pyramids !

Potassium Alum Pyramids are real natural crystals, they produce interaction with eather in an etheric vortex

Human aura interact with alum pyramids in many ways, i expose my foods too over crystal alum pyramid to get it in the vortex and get them more supraconductive (like Ormus)

I am here to study how to find a way to use alum pyramid in the way to interact with electricity

in crystal batetrie, and pajak pyramid, and now with the heating pyramid my brain is storming in a good way to find out how to use the resonating pyramid crystals



Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: hartiberlin on March 05, 2008, 02:42:40 AM
Very nice,
how about making BIG piezo crystals with it  and pulsing them via high voltage pulses ?

Can you also make layers of different chemicals and grow them in mikrometer thick layers ?
This way you could maybe create nice solar cells...

Or can you incorporate any electrodes into the growing
so one could pulse the electrodes with high voltage to see
how the crystal reacts ?
Also can you color up the crystal with some additional color
so it grows like in a red color tone ?

Many thanks for your very interesting videos.

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: z.monkey on March 05, 2008, 12:07:48 PM
Cool!

If you can find a way to grow intermediate layers of metal inside them
then you could make super capacitors.  The crystals could store a huge
amount of power.  Much like semiconductor processing except in an
Earth friendly way.

Excellent!
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Drannom on March 06, 2008, 03:51:39 AM
Quote from: hartiberlin on March 05, 2008, 02:42:40 AM
Very nice,
how about making BIG piezo crystals with it  and pulsing them via high voltage pulses ?

Can you also make layers of different chemicals and grow them in mikrometer thick layers ?
This way you could maybe create nice solar cells...

Or can you incorporate any electrodes into the growing
so one could pulse the electrodes with high voltage to see
how the crystal reacts ?
Also can you color up the crystal with some additional color
so it grows like in a red color tone ?

Many thanks for your very interesting videos.

Regards, Stefan.

Thank to you to welcome me in your house !


how about making BIG piezo crystals with it and pulsing them via high voltage pulses ?

Good idea they may react, many things are piezo electric and we have to know why we want to make them resonate, alum pyramid like every others crystals are already resonating at their own molecular frequency, (finding that frequency will allow us to boost it),  the reason for that is the supra conductivity in every crystals.


Can you also make layers of different chemicals and grow them in mikrometer thick layers ?
This way you could maybe create nice solar cells...

Well good idea too, we have to know witch substance we need to capture solar rays, i have already grown some plate of crystal, all we have to do is place a seed under a glass, and the crystal is spread all under the glass while growing

Or can you incorporate any electrodes into the growing
so one could pulse the electrodes with high voltage to see
how the crystal reacts ?

Very good idea, get some sort of ground inside those crystals, i have already get a copper pyramid inside an alum pyramid, a butterfly, and some moskitos, so there will be no problem to put electrodes inside those crystals too !  This is the second time someone suggest it to me, i will have to rebuild a new laboratory soon. And i may put two electrodes in a single pyramid to test the queen and king chamber.


Also can you color up the crystal with some additional color
so it grows like in a red color tone ?

Using Chrome Alum will give violet pyramids ! (i dream of that)

A crystal is 100 % pure and there is no space free in the crystal, each molecule of the crystal is attracting others one, the pyramidal shape of the alum pyramid is the result of thoses attraction, if you see white stripe inside alum crystals it is a too rapid growing, then molecules are not perfectly fit together

I use a vortex to get perfect symetric crystal and then when the top of the pyramid enter in the vortex it is create sort of obelisc inside the pyramid, due to the difference in fluid circulation


Many thanks for your very interesting videos.

It is more than a pleasure for me, it is a moral obligation to deliver my work to the world, then many others can reproduce my technics, i choose to cross to the english side in my youtube videos to reach the world community, i came in this forum to participate in the world team to free the world with a free energy, finally i saw that this forum is check out by the devil side of the world conspiracy, and we have to stand and work together and fight them with true informations.

There is so much work to do to cristallize every others substances, there is work here for many lives, and for each type of crystal there will be different forms and experiments to do with

Potassium Alum is a very special substance, it is a mineral coming from the life in the ocean, a mineral come from a vegetal and animal life in clayish sediments ! There is much more affinity with this crystal and life than other mineral coming from the earth itself. The Potassium atom in each molecule of the crystal will resonate at the crystal frequency, and induce it in food and human aura, and whatever can resonate on the potassium frequency like vegetable plant.

Potassium Alum pyramids can be scan with a pendulum by radiesthesist

Esoteric medium can see astral ligths emit by those crystals looking like sort of green and blue smoke coming up from a kind of sphere rigth above the top of the pyramid

I got a channelling analyse, they saw energy coming from under the pyramid and rushing out over it, and they saw multiple astral geometric form around the pyramid, ant they said that those crystals are alive in the way that those crystals react within the environement, each energy around alum pyramid  may or not get a reaction from the crystal, the way to communicate is in the emotional field, in the pure vibrating level

The reason why a crystal can react with spiritual thoughts seems to me the same reason why every one is just a more or less reflection of an unique Spirit, supra conductivity of perfect crystals allow different doors reflecting that same unique Spirit.(like holy spirit) The specific frequency of each type of crystal allow it more or less too, potassium alum is well know in alchemy as a celestial mediative.

A mineral from the ocean produce natural pyramids at the exact Kheop shape !

Is it possible that Kheop pyramid is pointing out a substance taking naturallly that 51.83 degre ?
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Drannom on March 06, 2008, 04:04:16 AM
Quote from: z.monkey on March 05, 2008, 12:07:48 PM
Cool!

If you can find a way to grow intermediate layers of metal inside them
then you could make super capacitors.  The crystals could store a huge
amount of power.  Much like semiconductor processing except in an
Earth friendly way.

Excellent!

Thank you and good idea

it is possible to put metal plate in alum crystal, the capacitor will get only the quantity of electricity of the surface plates, there is alluminium in alum pyramids and i wonder how those atoms can store more electricity in contanct with each metal plate

metal plates can be very good electrode too ! in different metal ! to get potentiel, too much experiment to do

here my shema
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Koen1 on March 06, 2008, 07:38:44 AM
Hey very interesting!
Thanks for posting your alum crystal pyramid growing videos! :D

Now of course alum is one of the materials that are easy to grow into crystals,
but the basic technique is very interesting, and it may well be possible
to use the same method at higher temperature to poduce similar
crystals from other materials...

You said you have also grown crystal plates?
Can you tell me how you did that?
(plates could be much easier to use in capacitor- or other
electrical applications than pyramid shapes)

Kind regards,
Koen
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: helmut on March 06, 2008, 10:20:18 AM
Hi Drennom

I like to thank you, to come here and present such a interesting
and impressing part of physics.
Just free fore everybody to try out.

helmut

Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: hartiberlin on March 06, 2008, 12:34:34 PM
It could be, that the crystals have Potassium K40 radioactive isotopes in them in some low quantities and when these decompose radiate out and excite the whole crystall with beta rays and maybe also gamma rays, so there might be the connection to the radioasthets being able to see the energy come out  of the crystall ?

Well yes, crystall plates would be best to check out 2 different crystall layers growing on each other to get a p-n-layer diode effect. When this gets the right band gap distance it could also work as a solar cell.
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: amigo on March 06, 2008, 04:39:33 PM
@ Stefan,

Why bother with PN junction then if there are radioactive isotopes present. Couldn't we then just use the charged particles passing between two plates of metal to create a potential between them, no? If this is done on a micro scale, or better, nano scale you could build thousands of these and these combined could produce a lot of energy...


@ Drannom,

would it be possible that you write up a short how-to for beginners so that interested parties can try this crystal growing? Perhaps you have some easier setup that does not require big water vessels, motors and lights? Then you can expand into more complex methods etc...
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Koen1 on March 07, 2008, 10:02:32 AM
I think this is one of the easier ways of doing it...

Although you might be able to grow smaller ones in a smaller vessel...
but I think doing it the same way would still be the best option...

Thing is, he's got everything you need to grow a crystal:
- saturated solution
- heat (energy) source (the lamp)
- seed crystal (the tiny crystal he puts on the glass plate)
And the use of the smaller "feed" bottle with oversaturated solution at the top
is a quite clever way to add regular amounts of alum in solution.
The heat from the lamps will stimulate the alum to be dissolved,
gravity will "pull" some of it out of the bottle,
the little rotor causes the solution in the bigger tank to "vortex",
which feeds dissolved alum to the alum crystal on the bottom evenly
on all sides,
and the shadow zone keeps the seed crystal and the growing pyramid
crystal cooler than the rest of the solution, allowing the alum to
condense and bond to the crystal.

I can't really come up with a much simpler method of producing such
crystals...
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: helmut on March 07, 2008, 11:29:23 AM
For german readers.:
Alum=Kalialaun 
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaun

helmut
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Drannom on March 08, 2008, 05:09:50 AM
@Koen1

you said:
Now of course alum is one of the materials that are easy to grow into crystals,
but the basic technique is very interesting, and it may well be possible
to use the same method at higher temperature to poduce similar
crystals from other materials...

Very good, in hot water at high pressure we can solve and coagulate some emerald powder, and saphir powder, those crystals are corindon and have aluminium in them


you said:
You said you have also grown crystal plates?
Can you tell me how you did that?
(plates could be much easier to use in capacitor- or other
electrical applications than pyramid shapes)

to grow plate you have to grow a seed of crystal under a glass, a crystal is growing without any concern for whatever near it, it will spread anywhere where the saturated solution will flow

Here a link to see a copper pyramid in an alum pyramid

http://charlevoix.qc.ca/cristallerie/video/pyramidecuivre.mpg

you may see my youtube videos with the beetle to understand how use crystal generator to incorporate some objects insides them, just let the crystal recover everythings, even thin and delicate objetc like a bird feather !


@helmut

It's a pleasure for me to be welcome by you, Drannom is an anagram of Normand, my name is Normand Boivin and in fact i am the only one doing so beatifull alum pyramids, so i begin by try to make some money with crystals, try to interest some scientists, try to offer it freely to the governement to create job, whatever i have try then nothing gone properly, even i had TV interviews i remain alone in this new-age adventure, it is only by internet that i got a way to deliver my work to the world, it is better then wait dying and let loose my technics

Internet show me a lot of inventors just ignore or well destroy by the world conspiracy, it give me some consolation to understand that, i suggest anyone to view David Wilcock videos at youtube, he is the leader to understand what happen right now up to 2012

@hartiberlin


Dear eminence, you have a very interesting theory, you might be right ! i do not knwo nothing about radioactive potassium 40, i beleive you that it exist, it may be the source of the fire in the pyramid, i will attach the picture of the molecule, anyway radioactive or not alum pyramids may react in many ways, my theory could be that the molecular frequency of alum is in such harmonic with the eather frequency, or may be it is also in the shape of the pyramid modulating in such way the interaction with eather

Crystals are like a supraconductive space among the chaos, any other material are in chaotic molecular structure, on ly empty spce could so perfect than the interior of a crystal, it like a new state of the matter at higher level, each crystals are then a good space surface to reflect high energys, vene thoses energy coming from black hole, call super light, and call the central sun in esoteric, it look like black hole are super sun in astral lights

So like prisming the sun with a crystal, a crystal will prims astral lights, and super light (search for super light in internet)

Well yes, crystall plates would be best to check out 2 different crystall layers growing on each other to get a p-n-layer diode effect. When this gets the right band gap distance it could also work as a solar cell.

I will need to study a little more to fully understand that

@amigo


I am sceptic with the possibility to get a lot of energy from radioactive potassium, you are very optimist, there is many energetic interactions more to study, if true radioactive potassium could be sort of candle ligth to light a bigger fire, this big fire could be an etheric vortex or a resonating frequency to other beaming energy coming from the outside of the crystal


videos are more than pictures and pictures more than words, so see some of my youtube videos and i will answer question there or here, specially my 4 last videos i have done for teaching my technics, easier set up in the seed videos, the prism video is just for fun,

in Atlantyd each color of a prism was use for a different purpose, even each type of crystal give different effect. The motor is absolutly need for crystal more than 1 cm, if no motor the crystal will for convection by heating water while growing, producing white crystals, moving water give clear crystal, and create a vortex over the growing crystal will give perfect symetric crystals


Yes i like to talk a lot, writing in english present some difficultys, just imagine if i could talk to you in my own language, i have a lot of ducumentation in french, you may have some sort of translator here ? a human translator could traduce the angel channelling explaning the flow of energy in potassium alum pyramids, i got a great publication in the Stargate Magasine.

Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Drannom on March 08, 2008, 05:23:04 AM
Quote from: Koen1 on March 07, 2008, 10:02:32 AM
I think this is one of the easier ways of doing it...

Although you might be able to grow smaller ones in a smaller vessel...
but I think doing it the same way would still be the best option...

Thing is, he's got everything you need to grow a crystal:
- saturated solution
- heat (energy) source (the lamp)
- seed crystal (the tiny crystal he puts on the glass plate)
And the use of the smaller "feed" bottle with oversaturated solution at the top
is a quite clever way to add regular amounts of alum in solution.
The heat from the lamps will stimulate the alum to be dissolved,
gravity will "pull" some of it out of the bottle,
the little rotor causes the solution in the bigger tank to "vortex",
which feeds dissolved alum to the alum crystal on the bottom evenly
on all sides,
and the shadow zone keeps the seed crystal and the growing pyramid
crystal cooler than the rest of the solution, allowing the alum to
condense and bond to the crystal.

I can't really come up with a much simpler method of producing such
crystals...

Very good, thank you, you have explain it very well !!

you can grow a pyramid from a seed, and you can do it again and again with a crystal genarator ! Crystal generator memorise any face of a crystal and reproduce the crystal network from the inside of the glass, se my crystal generators videos to fully understand this

here the second picture of the molecule

Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: helmut on March 08, 2008, 06:24:34 AM
Quote from: Drannom on March 08, 2008, 05:09:50 AM

@helmut

It's a pleasure for me to be welcome by you, Drannom is an anagram of Normand, my name is Normand Boivin and in fact i am the only one doing so beatifull alum pyramids, so i begin by try to make some money with crystals, try to interest some scientists, try to offer it freely to the governement to create job, whatever i have try then nothing gone properly, even i had TV interviews i remain alone in this new-age adventure, it is only by internet that i got a way to deliver my work to the world, it is better then wait dying and let loose my technics

Internet show me a lot of inventors just ignore or well destroy by the world conspiracy, it give me some consolation to understand that, i suggest anyone to view David Wilcock videos at youtube, he is the leader to understand what happen right now up to 2012


Hello Normand.
I am not only impressed by the pyramides that you led be born.
It is also a pleasure to read the way you expose your experience. Just as clear as the Pyramides you made.
The Internet is the biggest Present to  Mankind since the centurys.People all over the World share their ideas,words and feelings.This is just a wonder since the days of babylon.
Yes i will follow your advise and see the David Wilcock presentantion on YouToube.

As you  know,i am not the big inventor,but the one,who honestly worry about the future.

So led the net be a place where one can feel like at home.

helmut
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Drannom on March 16, 2008, 12:46:54 PM
That is what i was talking about concerning black hole and super light!

there is other link on that

http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/11/milewski_describes_magnetoelec.html

......

SuperLight is described as the opposite and complementary phase to ordinary light. While electromagnetic radiation - visible light is part of its spectrum - has a strong electric and a weaker magnetic component, in magneto-electric radiation the magnetic component outweighs its electric counterpart.
Milewski proposes a model which sees magneto-electric radiation as the source of gravity, emitted by black holes and traveling at the square of the speed of light. SuperLight has a correspondingly shorter wavelength and higher energy content than ordinary light and is the source of the energy of life, which makes for its connection to the area of healing through increased coherence in organisms.
While physics has tended to exclude life and consciousness from its equations we now have - with Milewski's model - a very real possibility to reach unification with meta-physics, generally considered the purview of faith and religion.

.....

Now, I believe a similar event occurs in the extremely dense and hot matter found in black holes. It is theorized that black holes contain magnetic monopoles and when these extremely dense, extremely small, extremely energetic magnetic monopoles release energy by lowering their orbit they radiate magneto?electric radiation, our SuperLight. So black holes really are not so black. They are radiant beings of SuperLight. Of course SuperLight escapes the strong gravitation forces of the black holes because its velocity is the square of the velocity of light and it therefore, can easily escape.
The current scientific thinking is that in the center of every galaxy in the universe is a black hole. There are billions and billions of galaxies all around us, and they all are producing SuperLight. We are literally bathed in a three-dimensional dynamic energy field, or an "Ether" of SuperLight ? a Dynamic Ether.

.....

and much more at the link
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: f_dyne on March 16, 2008, 05:33:23 PM
Hi Drannom,

thank you for your real interesting contribute.
Your technology can be useful for this kind of machines:

http://utenti.lycos.it/fischerconsulting/testapictures.html

Unfortunately that generator machines technology itself is quite complex.
For some theoretical information I shared on the web:

http://utenti.lycos.it/fischerconsulting/testatpu.html

Good luck!

F_dyne
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: jeanna on May 30, 2008, 04:29:15 PM
OK so,

I have some alum in my dye box.

I guess I need to find 2 pieces of glass and get them cut and get a small hole cut in each one.

A bunch of questions:

1- What size hole?

2-  glass? can plexiglass be used?

Then I dissolve the alum in hot water so I get a saturated solution.

3- For some reason you show many seeds and then you say to redissolve the seeds. Why?

Is it just that I need the ones that have flat top?

4- Why am I supposed to make so many? Are you saying to make many of these seeds for future use?

Now, I find one that has a flat top and I tape it to the underside of the hole in the little piece of glass.

5- Which end faces the hole? Do I put the flat top end into the hole?

6- Do I put the taped seed on the under side or the upper side when I put it into the glass bowl? (I assume the under side so the hole is facing up, but it looked the other way in the video.)

7= Why must I fill the little hole with a needle. Will it not fill itself?

8- But now, I need a second piece of glass to go over the one that has a seed. Or do I? Is that just a second example?

Sorry for all these questions. I am grateful to have you available to answer!!!!!

jeanna

Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Drannom on June 01, 2008, 11:45:12 AM


QuoteOK so,

thank you, i prefer answer once time for all members so i have suggested you to write questions here, super !
and i will put i link from my youtube videos to here, so i will release details on my technics as well as it's a moral need for me to transmit all details somewhere and save it for good


QuoteI have some alum in my dye box.

I guess I need to find 2 pieces of glass and get them cut and get a small hole cut in each one.


one peice of glass with a little hole at the center


QuoteA bunch of questions:

1- What size hole?

i use 2 millimeter and it will be better with 1 millimeter

Quote2- glass? can plexiglass be used?

Then I dissolve the alum in hot water so I get a saturated solution.

yes tap water is ok, i have only experiment with glass (crystal generator) and (ceramique and chrome for the container)  , it can be anythig else except wood, rubber, metal,
saturated solution must not be in contact with little bubble of air at the surface of any objet or inside the objet cause it will star cristallizing by contact, it create an excess of alum (absorbing water) and it explode in a microscopic little crystal, just little bubbles alone is no problem cause there is no absortion


Quote3- For some reason you show many seeds and then you say to redissolve the seeds. Why?

Is it just that I need the ones that have flat top?


you always keep the beautifull crystals before redissolve all, you add a quantity equal to replace them, keep sharp pyramide for fun and search for a flat top one,

there is only one way to adjust the saturation of the solution, it is by dissolving it each day and add some alum more or some water more and try again, scientific technic by mesuring quantity of water and quantity of alum will have to adjust after all as well cause many others factors influence the crystallization, so it is for air atmospheric pressure for example.An another exemple is that a moving water will solve more alum then a static dormant water, the reason is that alum is attract by the gravity at the lower part of the container in it's solve state.


Quote4- Why am I supposed to make so many? Are you saying to make many of these seeds for future use?

no, you need 3 or 4 flat top pyramid to successfully create a crystal generator, you'll need to failed until getting experience, then knowledge

QuoteNow, I find one that has a flat top and I tape it to the underside of the hole in the little piece of glass.

good

Quote5- Which end faces the hole? Do I put the flat top end into the hole?

not into, the flat top must be larger than the glass hole, when a pyramid seed appear suddenly in a saturated solution of alum the lower part can be very not at the right angle, the top of the crystal remain perfect !! so the flat top will adjust the crystal netwok perfectly with the surface of the glass, it is the only way to get a perfect crystal generator

Quote6- Do I put the taped seed on the under side or the upper side when I put it into the glass bowl? (I assume the under side so the hole is facing up, but it looked the other way in the video.)
under side, yes hole facing up


Quote7= Why must I fill the little hole with a needle. Will it not fill itself?

not fill itself cause the flat top at the under other side is obstruing the hole under, the needle will push out the air keep inside the hole, then the saturated solution will go in and contact the flat top pyramid under, and it will be a little too hot, and melt a little, cooling and start cristallizing inside the hole, providing a perfect adjust shape


Quote8- But now, I need a second piece of glass to go over the one that has a seed. Or do I? Is that just a second example?

one glass will be fine,

QuoteSorry for all these questions. I am grateful to have you available to answer!!!!!

more than available it is a moral need for me to deliver my experiences one for all in english for everyone ! thank youuu!




Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Drannom on August 22, 2008, 02:03:45 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3tKGW7s5hA

Here is the potassium alum crystal that i have done in 2008-08-16 in my new mini crystal lab, there is also my new shema and some of my new music, so it is a long video on only one potassium alum crystal pyramid, this crystal came from a crystal generator, and when the crystal was growing i have stopped it and then i put a metallic pyramid over the crystal, then a let the crystal growing again and it had grow all around the metallic pyramid ! at the end the metallic pyramid is inside an potassium alum pyramid crystal ! you will see only this crystal all the video long, i have disable the comments for this one, it is the first one from my new mini crystal lab and i expect to make super wonderous crystals soon with a better video quality.

Potassium alum pyramids produce an etheric vortex over them ! Crystals can be used to interact with the human aura, and get induce by higher vibrating level...it produce orgone and possibly Ormus which is a kind of elixir.
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: TheOne on September 13, 2008, 03:44:28 PM
Where do you buy your Potassium alum? I would like to make some for fun! I am living in QC city near to your city!

Thank you!
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Drannom on September 13, 2008, 04:44:00 PM
hi The One

indeed your are so near that it will take you approxymatly 1 hour to reach here, and then you'll be able to understand more than a can show in my youtube videos, first we will begin by finding this potassium alum

if you leave in QuÃÆ'Ã,©bec you may understand the french language, i usually talk in french

i decided to give english lesson to reach more people, so here, in this topic i will provide all the lessons needed for everyone to try this growing system

everythings can be simple as show in my seed youtube video, that can make 1 cm pyramide clear and sharp, just need water and alum !

then come the time to collect flat top pyramid seed , in the way to produce a crystal generator

you can replace the crystal generator by a big seed of alum crystal

i call my potassium alum at Jean-Coutu (drugstore), 500 mililiter, not pure, better call it from a distributor in chemicals at Montreal, it may be possible to find a dealer at QuÃÆ'Ã,©bec, 15 kilograms usual

take the industrial quality, it is less expensive than the other and very pure

the other alum (500 mili.) are not pure, you have to dissolve and ger only the crystals part of this stuff

we have talk about this topic in the 14 october alien topic, for the readers who have not read it yet
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: TheOne on September 13, 2008, 05:54:28 PM
Ok thanks, I will do some research to see if I can get the 15kg bags around it first.

How many gram you need to make a big crystal like the one in your video? I suppose the small quantity from JC is not enough to make the big crystal?

Yes I speak French, better then English ;)

Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Drannom on September 13, 2008, 07:04:27 PM
super, i will buy half of your 15 kilograms if you want i have some money for that ! 150$ approximatly

and i will give you a crystal for your kindeness, i have many little one

you need less than one kilos to cristallize seeds, for a complete system 7 kilos seems great

all the crystals are continualy resolve , so there is no lost, if a crystal is not good then resolve it !

if you get 7 kilos then you can produce 6.5 kilos of crystals, there is always some alum still solve in the solution after the cristallization

try Laboratoire Giroux at Montreal, heuuu expensive, or try to ask at the drugstore to order your alum directly from the chemicals dealer, try an USA succursale, there is USP alum and not USP alum, try the industrial kind

you talk better in french, good for our future collaboration

i am good in electronics, i have a lot of experiments with high voltage, great spark, i create my own circuits, we may find a project in OU as well

i can give you my phone number to interact more rapidly or at msn

see you

Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: TheOne on September 13, 2008, 08:00:56 PM
HEhe, did not know this potassium alum cost a lot.

I bet with 7 kilo you can produce a lot of big crystal? :)

I will do some research to find the cheapest one, I started to look at suppliers from canada, maybe we can find some that will be more cheap. I found one from china selling 50kg, dont know about the price yet, dont even know if they will reply to my message.

I will PM you with my info for messenger stuffs.

Take care
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Drannom on September 13, 2008, 08:40:51 PM
hello

if you do not need 7.5 kilos, no problem i will pay for all !  i surely can use a lot of alum and you'll get your 1 or 2 kilos for free !


i will call Jean-Coutu and ask them how much it cost, few years ago it was 160 $ last time it was 340$ , one of my student found it at Montreal for 250$, i will tell you this in 2 or 3 days

anyway i would like to thank you to try to find a good place to buy it

in the Cartier Chinois at montreal, it is possible too

there is many kind of alum, ask for potassium alum will be fine, chrome alum give violet pyramid and the price is higher than the potassium one, amonium alum is useless for our purpose
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: hypersoniq on October 06, 2008, 10:29:32 PM
I found this site selling 20 pounds for $68.95 (about 9 kilos)
It's photography grade... is that useable?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/123691-REG/Photographers_Formulary_10_0033_20LB_Potassium_Alum_20.html# (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/123691-REG/Photographers_Formulary_10_0033_20LB_Potassium_Alum_20.html#)
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Drannom on October 11, 2008, 08:12:44 AM
Thank you Hypersoniq !

it seems ok, i wonder why photographers need potasssium alum, the price seems ok too, the formula is AlK (CO4)2  12H, just make sure that is a pure quality with nothing add in it,

it is possible that this alum is pure or not, usually i do not buy the U.S.P. quality cause there are something more in it, we need pure industrial quality and it is less expensive, yeah

in drugstore they sell potassium alum (250 gr or 500 gr) not pure with a kind of unknown powder not solvable in water, it is not a big problem cause we can separate easily potassium alum, just dissolve all and crystallise all to collect only the crystallized part (like white powder) the impurity will not crystallize





thank you The One ! he found me a distributor in Quebec !

Produits Chimiques Simco (Montreal)

Telephone: (450) 659-2995

i have not call them yet, i have stilll some alum to use here

i have got many questions in my youtube's comments, each day there is approximatly 150 hits, it is not a lot, i hope that it will be enough to save my technics for the future.

there is so much things that we can cristallize with my discovery, for example NACl will do nice cube easily too





Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: hypersoniq on October 15, 2008, 07:37:59 PM
Did you construct the generator chambers in your youtube videos or are they available somewhere?
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Drannom on October 15, 2008, 07:56:25 PM
Hello hypersoniq !

i have construct all of it myself, i have tried approximatly 10 different methods, at the beginning i was only cooling down a saturated solution of potassium alum, i had to invent the crystal generator technic, and after that i had to find a way to introduce potassium alum while the crystal is growing

the vortex propeller is a critical device, the container interact with the vortex, one must be done to fit with the other

i have to learn everything step by step, and try again ...again.......again.....a lot of wrong tests

to perfectly control the saturation of the solution is the most difficult part, and it can be only acheive with a visual hability to see with eyes, for example the form of the vortex inside the Cristallarium (the chamber)

the Cristallarium in my video is a cooking ceramic Vision, and it is working better in those one than the others i have tried, the thickness do sort of wall preventing infra red waves to come inside the Cristallarium

if you look to the shema above you'll see that there is nothing expensive to buy

Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: jeanna on October 15, 2008, 08:58:12 PM
I have a friend who made a movie of a slowmo vortex that happens in water sitting under a pyramid. He is promising a cd but not yet, so I cannot show you. But maybe it would work to make a posterpaper pyramid to put over it.

It would save electricity.

I am just not ready to do it yet - lab is full still.

jeanna

Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Drannom on October 16, 2008, 06:04:29 AM
Quote from: jeanna on October 15, 2008, 08:58:12 PM
I have a friend who made a movie of a slowmo vortex that happens in water sitting under a pyramid. He is promising a cd but not yet, so I cannot show you. But maybe it would work to make a posterpaper pyramid to put over it.

It would save electricity.

I am just not ready to do it yet - lab is full still.

jeanna



Hello, it would be very interesting to reproduce this experiment or to see that video

i can try it with a potassium alum pyramid over a glass of water with sea salts in it and with some pepper at the surface, and watch if there is some vortex taking place there, then it would be a super wonderfull youtube video to confirm the energy of a potassium alum pyramid 

i have seen a picture somewhere on the net of a metallic pyramid with a vortex over it, they were using a Tesla coil and the voltage cross the pyramid from the bottom to the top, and they have get a picture of an electric vortex over the pyramid

with the Super Light theory it is become easier to understand what's cooking when you place a pyramid anywhere, not only at the surface of the earth and not only with the earth energy

i mean that Super Light come from all around us , from all the black holes of our universe, so Super Light rays are hitting the pyramid by all directions in the same time, the shape of the pyramid act as a sort of diode in the etheric field, the pyramide create a directionnal flow in the etheric field, and the flowing result is a rectified Superlight from the bottom to the top of the pyramid, and vice versa

there must be the same effect over the pyramid, so 2 vortexes

Potassium alum pyramid catch more super light than a chaostic object, (all crystals do this) the molecular frequency of the potassium alum molecule tune the Superlight, the pyramid shape create a vortex over the pyramid, and this vortex create green and blue astral lights over the pyramid

And superlight pass through a pyramid like ordinary light, so it is only a thiny part of the superlight that is transform in astral light, corresponding with the molecular frequency of an potassium alum molecule

there are much more to say, while a potassium alum pyramid is growing it produce heat, and this heat creat a flow of liquid (convection), the heated water going up by the top of the pyramid, i never notice if this flow is rotating like a vortex

so thank you Jeanna !  2 more experiment to do
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: jeanna on October 16, 2008, 02:22:21 PM
You are welcome Drannom,

I look forward to hearing the results you get.

My friend is away at work for a few more days. I will ask him for the details of spin again when he returns. I did already, but at the time it was from interested curiosity and I do not remember how fast the vortex moved. - except that it was slow and needed to be filmed in a  stop motion sort of way.

Actually, however, if it is a pyramid that is making the vortex that moves the water, perhaps it will be the exactly right speed to create another one in the solution!

I am always hopeful for easy and excellent results.

Thank you again for sharing your techniques with us. (I love the potential that is in a pyramid!)

jeanna
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: nievesoliveras on October 16, 2008, 05:38:39 PM
Hi!

@drannom

I saw your videos and read your thread here on the forum. A resumen would be:

Everything you need to grow a crystal:
- saturated solution
- heat (energy) source (a lamp)
- seed crystal (a tiny crystal on a glass plate)
- Feeding bottle with over saturated alum solution at the top
-Heat lamps to stimulate the alum to be dissolved, causing
  gravity to pull some of it out of the bottle.
-A little rotor to cause the solution in the tank to "vortex", in order to
  feed dissolved alum to the alum crystal on the bottom evenly on all sides.
-A foam disk shadow zone keeps the seed crystal and the growing pyramid crystal cooler       
than the rest of the solution, allowing the alum to condense and bond to the crystal.

1. A piece of glass with 1-2mm hole at the center
2. I use glass (crystal generator) and (ceramic and chrome for the container).  It can be anything else except wood, rubber or metal and the saturated solution must not be in contact with little bubbles of air at the surface of any object or inside the object because it will start crystallizing by contact, creating an excess of alum (absorbing water) and explode in microscopic little crystals. Little bubbles alone, is not a problem because there is no absorption.
3. There is only one way to adjust the saturation of the solution. It is by dissolving it each day and add some more alum or some more water and try again.
A scientific technique measures the quantity of water and the quantity of alum as well as many others factors that influence the crystallization, like air atmospheric pressure for example. Another example is that moving water will dissolve more alum than a static dormant water. The reason is that alum in its dissolved state, is attracted by the gravity at the lower part of the container.
4. You need 3 or 4 flat top pyramids to successfully create a crystal generator, you will fail until you get experience, and knowledge.
5. Tape one flat top pyramid crystal to the underside of the hole in the little piece of glass. The flat top must be larger than the glass hole. The flat top will adjust the crystal network perfectly with the surface of the glass. The hole must be facing up and filled with a needle to push out the air inside the hole.

Maybe I made some mistakes, but that is what I understood of the tecnique.

Jesus
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: Drannom on October 16, 2008, 10:49:29 PM
Hello Jesus, you are a genious ! you have learned almost perfectly what i do

i just want to complete your post

the gravity attract most of the potassium alum dissolved at the bottom of any container, with the vortex propeller we homogenize the solution, then there will be no over saturation at the bottom

for the seed germination, the gravity will do some pressure at the bottom, and more the concentration increase more are the chance to get a micro-burst, each micro-burst will give a crystal, so in the seed germination we need to get the saturation increase slowly with a slowly cooling method

if it is not working then we have to increase or decrease the saturation and try again, and yes the atmospheric pressure is a parametre, and there are too much parametre, we have to let down the scientific method and make some manual calibration of the solution

if we get a slowly cooling then the micro-burst will be stronger, with a micro-burst you can get together 2 molecules, or 3 molecules, or 4 molecules, or more

if 2 molecules cristallized in a micro-burst then they fall down at the bottom of the container and keep going cristallizing with other molecules, it will be the normal form of potassium alum, kind of hexagonal shape

if 3 molecules cristallized in a micro-burst, then it will look like a chair with only 3 legs, the 3 molecules fall down and keep going cristallizing, it will be possibly a pyramid or not, cause the forth leg can cristallize just before the structure touch the bottom of the container

if 4 molecule cristallized in a micro burst, then you get a pyramid

if more than 4 cristallized, then the solution has been cool to fast, or the solution is too concentrate, with 8 you get an octahedron ! very rare

if you get sort of snow on all the bottom's surface, then cooling too fast or solution too concentrate

Jesus you have catch the crystal generator too ! very good

to grow a pyramid with a crystal generator you have to place the crystal generator (or a big seed) in a solution of water and potassium alum just saturated a little bit and a little hot, so the crystal will melt a little bit before growing , again the most difficult part is to calibrate the solution, i do this simply, i use a poor solution with alum in it at room temperature, and i add the part i wish to dissolve, and then when cooling the same part will come back

so, i put the crystal generator or a big seed in the Cristallarium, then it is dissolve a little bit the time of the first cooling (1 hour max), and will begin to cristallize then, after this we have to inject alum from a hot saturated solution (30 celsius) to the Cristallarium (20 celsius), and the difference in those temperature give the right concentration

you can inject with a feeding bottle or a circulating system more complex

the lamp under the foam disk is for 2 purpose, first it is for get the bottom as hot as the top of the solution, even if you use a propeller there will be always a difference between the top and the bottom temperature, second it prevent bad crystal to appear everywhere, cause the glass or ceramique will transmit some cool, sort of lack in infra red rays, in the seed method the glass will give the micro-burst as the cold enter the solution by the bottom, and third the lamp can control the speed of the growing crystal

Hello Jeanna, i have not try the experiment yet, i promise you to try it first tomorrow morning, and i will make a video in slow motion, last year i have put a big pyramid on a floting foam, the pyramid was always moving slowly, i will do it again in my basement to avoid any vibration, my theory is the superlight field is not constant, as the black hole rise and set like a sun in the sky

the center of our galaxy is at aquarius (i think) so it is like a sun rise and a sun set, in fact all planets in our solar system change the field of the superlight

good night









Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
Post by: nievesoliveras on October 17, 2008, 08:04:17 AM
Hi!

Thank you drannom!!!
You are a great teacher!!!

Jesus
Title: Re: Potassium Alum Pyramid (growing crystals)
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