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Title: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: innovation_station on March 06, 2008, 11:01:33 AM
 ;)


yep what else could it be .......


ist

i might go through my old posts and dig it up 4 u all 8)

Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Koen1 on March 06, 2008, 12:24:51 PM
Why make a new topic if you don't post any info at all?
:-\
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: innovation_station on March 06, 2008, 12:39:36 PM
well im sure TESLA published his work did he not?

why must i mimic the MASTER ? FOR YOU ALL?


IST

~~~ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL... ONE RING TO BLIND THEM... ONE RING LEAD THEM ALL FROM THE DARKNESS... ~~~
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Koen1 on March 06, 2008, 01:05:06 PM
That does not make sense.

You're the one who made a new topic titled "Radient Energy Conversion Tesla's".
But you don't post anything usefull at all.

The question is not why you should mimic the master if Tesla published it all,
the question is:
Why do you make a new topic if you don't post any info related to the topic at all?

And besides that: Tesla may have written down a lot, "published" would mean that
everything he wrote down was actually presented to the public in book form,
and Tesla did not do that at all.
Furthermore, it is a known fact that most of Teslas papers and manuscripts were
confiscated by the US govt (army/whatever) when and before he died. Although they
claim that all papers were made public, we all know how honest those types can be
when it comes down to cutting edge technology... Just think of "operation paperclip"
where they took and employed dozens of Nazi scientists and simply made them
US citizens, no questions asked, as long as they built their rockets for them...

But to get back to my original point: you have just started a topic,
and only posted some useless text in that topic, and when asked
why you don't put proper info or anything in there, your reply
is "why? The guy I named in the topic title told all."...
That does not make sense.
If you're not planning to talk about the subject,
then why post it in the first place?
It's like shouting "let me tell you something!"
and when someone replies "Well, what?"
you reply "Do I have to tell you everything?"
???
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: ramset on March 06, 2008, 03:33:30 PM
INNOVATION it would be nice to be out of the dark ,what have you got in your old posts I think many would be interested Chet
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: amigo on March 06, 2008, 04:33:10 PM
Why is this in the News section to begin with?

Stefan, if you are reading this, are you the only mod on the forums here? You really ought to get more people involved to ensure things get posted into proper categories...
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: innovation_station on March 07, 2008, 01:49:27 AM
 :)

perhaps it is the news or in it  ;)

ist
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: b0rg13 on March 07, 2008, 04:44:48 AM
i think this might be what he wants to show us ? ;D

   http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4151.0/topicseen.html
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: ramset on March 07, 2008, 05:25:52 AM
Well thats cool !!!
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: AhuraMazda on March 07, 2008, 06:13:48 AM
Over time you learn whose posts you should ignore.
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: alan on March 07, 2008, 09:44:20 AM
I think he means these video's, which are his:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3852.0;attach=16020
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3852.0;attach=16085
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Koen1 on March 07, 2008, 09:50:04 AM
Quote from: b0rg13 on March 07, 2008, 04:44:48 AM
i think this might be what he wants to show us ? ;D

   http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4151.0/topicseen.html

That does not seem right. First of all that idea has nothing to do with Tesla as such,
and second of all growing plants faster is nothing new:
The "cutting the day in two" idea for example is a well known trick and widely used
by cannabis growers in the Netherlands (where it is legal to grow up to 5 small cannabis plants)
But to maximise bud/flower/fruit harvest they trick the plants into "thinking" it has spent more days
in the sun than it really has by giving them 2 or more day/night cycles in 24 hours.
This causes the plant to go into the "flower & fruit production setting", where it
pumps more nutrients to the flowers and buds. A side effect is obviously that the
plant has had less time to actually catch UV rays and has had less time to
grow its root, leaf, and stem structures, so in general such plants will also be
significantly smaller than plants that did receive the full 12 hours of daylight.
This can in turn have an effect on the production of fruit and flowers, because with
a smaller support structure and less foliage, the plant can not pump as many nutrients
to the flowers/fruit as it could if fully grown.
Partial solutions have been engineered too, such as allowing the plant to grow
to full size in a normal day/night cycle, and then slowly switching it to a much shorter
day/night cycle when the flowers/buds start to come. Obviously this will safe less
time, but it may have a positive effect on the flower/fruit size.
A much more promising method is the use of LEDs to illminate specific parts of plants,
with much less energy loss than normally happens, but that approach is still very
experimental. Tests of that method have shown that one can save energy and space
this way, and the running experiments show that one could grow the equvalent of
6 hectares of greenhouse lettuce cultivation in a building with a floor surface of 300
to 400 square meters. And with energy efficient LEDs instead of the terribly inefficient
use of incandescent UV lamps that produce those nice orange columns of light in
the nights sky...

Anyways, this is not a Tesla Radient Energy Conversion...

Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: ramset on March 07, 2008, 09:58:14 AM
Thankyou  for that I was also wondering about the lightning strikes mentioned in the old post of INNOVATION thanks Chet
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: alan on March 07, 2008, 10:01:19 AM
naar de highlife beurs geweest?  ;D (ik helaas vergeten)

Marijuana will become illegal in Holland too, mark my words.
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: helmut on March 07, 2008, 10:14:30 AM
Quote from: alan on March 07, 2008, 10:01:19 AM
naar de highlife beurs geweest?  ;D (ik helaas vergeten)

Marijuana will become illegal in Holland too, mark my words.

This sounds good to me.
I live near the Netherlands.
One Day will have the Plesure to feel happy there.

helmut
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: ramset on March 07, 2008, 10:17:57 AM
WELL little green cigarettes were the last!! thing on my mindChet
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Koen1 on March 07, 2008, 10:20:07 AM
lol nee niet naar de beurs geweest dit jaar ;)

Yeah, it probably will become illegal at some point, even in Holland.

Then again, if things keep going the direction they're headed now,
at some point it will probably become illegal to breathe clean air,
eat what you want, and go where you please.
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: innovation_station on March 07, 2008, 11:08:26 AM
so... now you all think im growing pot...   lol   lol 

nope... and none of you are right 

what i am showing all of you is the answer .....     to the questions that have not been asked ......


why does Bendi Thane the TPU and MANY  other OU devices actually work ......


hummmmm    duh!   i better go THINK!

ist







Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Localjoe on March 07, 2008, 11:18:20 AM
I surmise the best answer is this

"The SUN is Magic"
that is all.
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: alan on March 07, 2008, 11:18:45 AM
If they really showed OU, then all these devices must be able to  work, the 'vacuum tapping' machanism has to be the same.
Any proof they work, beside youtube?
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: innovation_station on March 07, 2008, 11:32:59 AM
Quote from: Localjoe on March 07, 2008, 11:18:20 AM
I surmise the best answer is this

"The SUN is Magic"
that is all.

thankx Joe

i would like to think the SUN IS MAGIC  ;)  and MIGHT just be the reason behind it all.......


IST
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: alan on March 07, 2008, 11:51:09 AM
could be, cosmic radiation, as Moray stated
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Koen1 on March 07, 2008, 01:02:35 PM
Quote from: innovation_station on March 07, 2008, 11:08:26 AM
so... now you all think im growing pot...   lol   lol 

nope... and none of you are right 

Well mister haughty, you're wrong as well.
Nobody even remotely suggested you're growing pot.

I hope your understanding of the things you seem to claim to know about "radiant energy"
is better than your understanding of the previous posts...

Quote
what i am showing all of you is the answer .....     to the questions that have not been asked ......

and again:
No you're not.
You're not giving us any "answers" at all.
You're just posting remarks suggesting that you know "the secret of free energy" (as some would call it).
But you're not telling us.

Why is that?
Does playing the big visionary make you feel better than us?

It's a bit like a group of kids looking for the last easter egg, and you're the kid
shouting that you know where it is but you're not telling.

;)

either put up, or... ;)
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: alan on March 07, 2008, 01:08:43 PM
You don't understand Koen, Tesla is giving us answers.

:P
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Koen1 on March 07, 2008, 01:46:36 PM
Tesla is dead,

and it was definately "innovation station" who started this thread
with what seems to be a claim about Teslas radiant energy...
But all he does is say nothing with a lot of words.
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: M@rcel on March 07, 2008, 02:27:39 PM
I guess we "just" have to ask the right questions...  ::)

Let's try:

- Am I correct in assuming that starting to charge a capacitor is a non-lineair activity?
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: helmut on March 07, 2008, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: Koen1 on March 07, 2008, 01:46:36 PM
Tesla is dead,

................................................................
But all he does is say nothing with a lot of words.

just like a politician

helmut
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: innovation_station on March 07, 2008, 05:29:19 PM
ok

watch the first 11seconds of this video ......


http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8435800732540412467

ah......... i will tell you what it says

THEASE ARE NOT FREE ENGERY DEVICES THEY ARE CONVERSION DEVICES ........


HUMMMM.......   






IST
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: alan on March 07, 2008, 08:23:17 PM
if it taps the earth magnetic field, then it _is_ a free energy device, and conventional.
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: ramset on March 07, 2008, 08:56:25 PM
Well your definitely up to something [in looking at some of your past posts and videos]and I am not one of your peers in this field  however you got something up your sleeve Thane SM maybe Richard possibly iST just a hunch Chet
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: innovation_station on March 07, 2008, 11:20:13 PM
nope nuttin up my sleve

i used to want to be rich and famous.......  but people grow up....
and realize....  your money only buys some things ......
i would rather learn somthing new to me

and share it with everyone for no reward or return than to try and sell it.....

it ideally should never have been hidden from the people but it was and still is

so be it .......     we can only change the future not the past..... ;)



im no chuch guy  but i still beleave there is a god almighty up there THE MOST HIGH GOD   :) ;)  ;D

Histeam!!
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: ramset on March 08, 2008, 12:10:46 AM
I'm new here and share like beliefs as you posted above, and there is definitely something very real and very exciting going on here I feel privileged to be able to watch this coming together  Thanks Chet
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: innovation_station on March 08, 2008, 10:23:55 AM
ok


so...

i have said this from way back.....  THIS IS THE DEVICE OF A 1000 STYLES......

BUT....

the back bone of it is just what i mentioned in the title of this thred .....

so build any ou device but i think you will discover it all leads back to ~~CONVERSION~~

NOW THERE SOME DEVICES THAT DONOT WORK THIS WAY .... HOW EVER MOST DO....

OF COURSE THERE ARE BETTER WAYS ......

;)

IST

for the record   i have only scrached the surface .......
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Koen1 on March 08, 2008, 10:40:02 AM
ok so let's assume you are right and it is all conversion.

So, what is your point?

Are you trying to say they are converting their input power into a different form
that "looks like" it is much more power or something like that, but it is in fact not,

or are you saying that they are converting some other form of energy,
taking it from the environment, using their electrical input to transduce it into
electrical output, and thereby produce more electrical output than electrical
input while at the same time "using up" the other energy form?

Because it is not clear what you're trying to tell us.

Are you trying to tell us that FE/OU does work, and it has to do with converting
other nergy types into electricity,
or are you trying to tell us that FE/OU does not work, and that it only appears
to be working, but that it is in fact due to misunderstanding of input conversion?

Come on man, I'm not trying to pick a fight here, I'm just trying to get you to
give some lucid info instead of the vague things you have been shouting.
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: ramset on March 08, 2008, 10:46:31 AM
It would be nice to see one of these many different configurations working ,someone on another thread spoke of an up coming trade/green show in Toronto   If he does bring his device to that show I'll make the 11 hr. drive  Owe and bye the way  I agree who knows how many different ways their must be to tap this wonderful Energy  Chet
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: alan on March 08, 2008, 11:41:51 AM
many different ways, all the same principle / concept, (if it the same energsource.)

Are you trying to tell us that FE/OU does work, and it has to do with converting
other nergy types into electricity,
or are you trying to tell us that FE/OU does not work, and that it only appears
to be working, but that it is in fact due to misunderstanding of input conversion?

Like to know that too, think he made some discoveries while experimenting after these (quite convincing) videos he posted.
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: innovation_station on March 08, 2008, 11:45:40 AM
here is another song i just love....

for tho  ;) se that dont know i was a dj for a long time i read songs well......


the orginal ....  http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0a3DFUU0Y

the cash ....    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=mdCdSLS6c5M
 
the starz ...     http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4wqNPvnXkF0


~~We will never be set free ......   As long as theres a ghost .....You cant see~~

i post this one agin in case my drift was missed......

                          8)~~into the night~~ 8)

          http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=QrgMNpe8_eE

like the keys to the puzzel that falls into place.... 

You could tell how we felt from the looks on our faces .......    
  :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8)
??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(
Systems spinning in circles, with the moon in our eyes....   

No room left to move between you and i .......
We for got where we were and we lost track of time ....    HUMMMMMM!?!?!?!?!?!?

      we sang to the wind ....   as we danced throught the night ......

the rest is already here  ;)

ist
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Koen1 on March 08, 2008, 12:23:14 PM
this is beginning to look like the Tseung Lead-Out thread...  :-\
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: ramset on March 08, 2008, 12:24:35 PM
Life does need a little more balance thanks and  yeah its all HERE!!  Chet
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Koen1 on March 08, 2008, 12:50:53 PM
well then Chet, maybe you will be so kind to tell us what exactly "it" is,
and where "it all" is exactly?

It is pretty clear "innovation station" is not planning to tell us anything here.
He prefers to post meaningless suggestive messages and music videos,
instead of just telling us what the thread title suggested he wanted to tell us.

I'll give him another chance to finally come up with something usefull,
but if his next post is another useless shout with zero information content,
I think we should prop this thread next to the equally useless Tseung thread.
And put a big warning sign next to it that Ist and Tseung both post mainly
uninformative selfrighteous claims and do not explain themselves.
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Chad on March 08, 2008, 01:10:25 PM
lol il play the game for 10 minuites :D

so what are you trying to get across here?, well ive listened to the songs and well theres a thousand different meanings one could derrive from the phrases.

Quote~~We will never be set free ......   As long as theres a ghost .....You cant see~~

Are you trying to tell us to understand what "radiant energy" is and how it works so we can better understand how to harness it?.

If radiant energy is the "ghost" and we will never discover how to use/harness it untill we "learn to see it" or understand how it works....or am i totaly of the bread crumb trail here :D

time for a cuppa ;)

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=TS9_ipu9GKw




Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: ramset on March 08, 2008, 01:39:33 PM
Koen  IM new here don't have any history  I've seen your posts {encouraging posts] on other threads I think ist  is cool sorry   he makes me stop and think and CHAD great tune   theirs alot going on in this Forum and we all see it or should and I believe ist can't control his excitement  and Im having a hard time too  but who knows    ??  Chet
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Koen1 on March 08, 2008, 01:44:20 PM
Lol well if it's all overexcitement then I guess it's ok... ;)
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Ren on March 09, 2008, 07:55:46 PM
What I think IS is elluding to is that energy is never created, as I am sure most of you already know. If it is never created then our search is about how it is collected/converted and then used. Tesla certainly mastered certain methods for doing this and we should all be doing the same. The humble windmill or solar panel are a great example of tapping into the sea of energy that surronds us.
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: b0rg13 on March 09, 2008, 10:36:46 PM
well , shall we have another song then ? ::)
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Feynman on March 09, 2008, 11:25:55 PM
I'm also new here, but I also don't mind innovation's posts. 

The second law of thermodynamics (conservation of energy) only applies to equilibrium systems. But there is really no such thing as a perfect equilibrium system. They only exist in college textbooks.  Quantum electrodynamics (QED) tells us that, at the core, the universe is continuously creating virtual particles from nothing. Reality at and below Planck length is a non-equilibrium system, continuously receiving input from only God knows where. 

Even conventional science acknowledges the presence of "dark energy" and "dark matter", which are really just a version of Dirac's negative electron sea (what a genius he was in 1933).  None of this is far-fetched really, it's all very conventional in quantum physics.

The problem is that we live in a world where people are rewarded (in careers and academia) for being selfish and ideologically blind, a world where free thinkers are routinely suppressed, jailed, or murdered, and unfortunately a world where  a powerful cartel of bankers control governments and vast fortunes.

There is much at stake. I think there is something going on here that is way beyond anything we can imagine.

By the way,  like the Cash version the best.
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Feynman on March 09, 2008, 11:57:13 PM
Here's my contribution to the music videos

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pXtQE-MhY5k
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on March 11, 2008, 10:17:39 PM

A side note...

Actually the 'Lightfoot' version of 'If You Could Read My Mind' is the best one.

The version posted earlier was done on vocal cords ravaged by decades of smoking and alcohol abuse.

Download the original...back when his voice was still smooth.

Regards...
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Feynman on March 11, 2008, 10:34:11 PM
Here is is non-shot vocal chords Lightfoot version

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bRMh5B8WaNo
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: ramset on March 11, 2008, 10:44:10 PM
FEY thanks brings back memories  Chet
Title: Re: RADIENT ENGERY CONVERSION TESLA'S by !st
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on March 11, 2008, 10:52:23 PM

Yes...now thats more like it - what a diff.

I don't believe there's an earlier 'Cash' version to compare it to though.

Thanks Fey

Regards...