im curious why people come and post like they know it all and then say nothing ?, here is an example posted below, there are MANY more through out the forum, its almost like some people have a god complex and like to see the rest of us mortals struggle, whats the right thing to do ?, give a fish to a starving man, or teach him how to fish ?. ::)
here is a good example of what im talking about.
Quote from: Eniac5state on March 14, 2008, 06:55:50 PM
To come back on the original subject, the 900 watt generator. The capacitorbank is not used for
resonance at all. An average motor coil is about 0.7 Hy. To get to 100 Hz one needs a capacitor of
3,5 uF. And that box is full of capacitors. That should give a big clue. Don't let people get you down
by saying it costs 1000's of dollars to develop because that's work of mindless ignorants.
Statement:
Months later, when you know the principles, I tell you that on the 9 pages of this thread, the complete
description is given ! In other words; you have all of the ingredients and you are unable to make the
bread. Now that is very sad for pre 1920's technology. ??? Are you so boxed in ? So enslaved by
manipulative schooling ? Come on, stop your emotions, do as German scientist and crack it.
I predict you; you will hit yourselves by not seeing it's already complete on these pages !
.
b0rg13, I must admit that I am one of those that you speak of but sometimes common sense opens the door to the truth and based on all the things I have learned over the time of becoming a member here, I have to say that I have yet to see one device that actually produces over unity. One thing you have to look for in these so called over unity devices is the utilization of the back EMF's. They are very misleading and make those who don?t know what they are or the advantages they have, believe that a over unity has taken place but in fact it has not done anything but produced a very efficient device.
I believe that there is only one way to achieve over unity and that is by way of permanent magnets and electronic magnets. We have seen many of these produce close to 100% efficiency but yet not one has been proven to produce any more. There is one major flaw in all these types of designs and I hope to achieve a true over unity by just modifying others designs with what I feel is a must have to achieve over unity.
i didint notice that you were one of *them*, from what i can see your actually trying to help out. as are many people here, but there some who are plainly not.
b0rg13, thanks, I feel better now.
Quote from: b0rg13 on March 18, 2008, 07:38:16 PM
im curious why people come and post like they know it all and then say nothing ?, here is an example posted below, there are MANY more through out the forum, its almost like some people have a god complex and like to see the rest of us mortals struggle, whats the right thing to do ?, give a fish to a starving man, or teach him how to fish ?. ::)
It's because they can't tell that they don't know what the hell they're talking about.
Cheers,
Mr. Entropy
I should expand. This is my theory:
They don't know that what they think of as knowledge is really just something they made up by letting energy-related terms freely associate in their minds. Since it isn't knowledge, it can't be taught or tested. They recognize their inability to teach what they "know", but they think the reason for this is that their "knowledge" has some kind of special quality like a bhuddist enlightenment, so that it can only gained through some kind of epiphany.
That's why they tell you to, say, lay out all the Tesla patents and stare at them, or reread the thread over and over, etc. They are projecting their own experience onto you, and thinking that if you do the same things they did, then you might end up having the same thoughts.
Cheers,
Mr. Entropy
Mr.Entropy, I must agree with you and say that is me in a nutshell. But I must say that I do honestly put a lot of thought in to what I say and I really try hard to use what common sense I feel I have not that it may a super high level but I feel it is something worth mentioning. I will not go in to details with why I feel my thoughts should be considered but please note that I do invest time in to them before I post them.
Quote from: b0rg13 on March 18, 2008, 08:07:36 PM
i didint notice that you were one of *them*, from what i can see your actually trying to help out. as are many people here, but there some who are plainly not.
Yeah...like that worthless bastard Omnibus. Little girlie boy knows everything in the universe yet can't help anyone here. He should get hit by a bus.
Quote from: konduct on March 18, 2008, 11:35:48 PM
Quote from: b0rg13 on March 18, 2008, 08:07:36 PM
i didint notice that you were one of *them*, from what i can see your actually trying to help out. as are many people here, but there some who are plainly not.
Yeah...like that worthless bastard Omnibus. Little girlie boy knows everything in the universe yet can't help anyone here. He should get hit by a bus.
lol :D
Quote from: nightlife on March 18, 2008, 08:01:48 PM
...
I believe that there is only one way to achieve over unity and that is by way of permanent magnets and electronic magnets. ...
Not a question of faith but of science.
What every one believes in or not is irrelevant. Only rational, logical and factual arguments are of interest in our domain, the others are noise, counter-productive and should be avoided or redirected to religious news groups.
Howdy Y'all,
You know we all started as blank slates, totally ignorant.
When I was a little kid I saw the animated Star Trek on Saturday morning and convinced myself that I was going to build an antimatter reactor. I went to my room and started winding inductors. Later in life after I found free energy and anti gravity information I wrote all kinds of theories. I look back on that stuff now and think man was I a dumb ass. I have even embarrassed myself really good on this forum, look at the Z-Machine thread. But we all grow with mistakes, and every failure is a lesson in disguise.
Failure is an impostor, it teaches us what NOT to do.
It is better to be silent and look like a fool,
than to open your mouth and prove yourself a fool.
Blessed Be Brothers...
exnihiloest, I honestly do not believe in over unity and I said that based on what the average member here thinks over unity is.
Quote from: nightlife on March 19, 2008, 10:39:23 AM
exnihiloest, I honestly do not believe in over unity and I said that based on what the average member here thinks over unity is.
Nightlife
Perhaps a better use for your time would be looking for a different forum.
Why would you stay in a forum dedicated to what you don't believe?.
There is no chance of you converting us to your opinions .
You believe what you choose to believe. We believe what we choose to believe.
Neither of us are likely to change our basic beliefs.
gary
That's pretty simple man.
Pout > Pin...
8)
one. we are all here for the same purpose and the is to create free energy and or at least a lot easier and cheaper then what it cost us from big money greed who holds the reins on the energy we use today.
I started a thread a while back about what energy really is. We are all here to find ways of producing energy but we do not have a clear understanding of what energy really even is. I cant see how we can properly produce and or collect what we don?t even have a clear understanding about.
No one wants to start from scratch and most want to base their opinions on others opinions, that fine but I have yet to read one opinion on what energy is that makes 100% sense.
Uh, I started from scratch. Theory up...
Go read the Soft Particle Physics thread.
I would like to think we are more than a bunch of mindless bloggers...
;D
z.monkey, I did read what your opinion was in that thread and it was quite interesting, something?s I can agree with where as others cant seem to agree with.
I am glad that you have started from scratch and I wish more would. I don't expect you to agree with my opinionated conclusion nor should I or anyone else be expected to agree with any ones opinionated conclusion because at this time, none of us can be proven right or wrong. I would how ever suggest that we all keep an open mind to what others opinions are and try to see things as they do. This does make for good debates as long as everyone can stay within the realm of respect.
It is impossible for us to say what came first at this time and I doubt that we will ever know. I believe that alone has brought most of mankind to think of the creator of all as a god.
I can not say there is or isn't a god nor can anyone else, we can assume and hope but reality is, we will never know until we die if indeed there is a life after death. I personally feel that the assumption should be given the benefit of the doubt and I try to think of a mystical god as to what I feel is right and wrong. I will never believe in anyone?s else?s mystical god nor will I ever agree with the teachings of a mystical god because to me that is much more far fetched then reality and we cant even figure out what is real, what makes people think we can figure out what a mystical god is and then to say what a god would want and not want. LOL
Common sense is very limited with in humanity and forums like this one and others are prime examples.
Nomen luni, I have done a few expirements as well as I have viewed hundreds of others. I am working on two as we speak.
So, your saying we need more astrophysics major, do-it-your-selfers?
I can commiserate...
z.monkey, in a sense, yes. Although I believe most are "do-it-your-selfers" but they tend to base their opinions on others opinions with out really thinking hard about it themselves.
I love this forum. It is so rich in alternative information. You hear so much about things being discovered in physics, but here, you see ideas and inventions being born. When people come along *cough*omnibus*cough* and try to constantly attack builders, and attempt to stop experimentation do to there inability to respect imagination, I get angry. I wonder, why? Whats the point? If you believe they will fail then let them figure it out. It isn't their place to tell someone who is trying to experiment to stop. Something is deeply wrong with that. Because if your wrong, then the invention may work. WHATS WRONG WITH IT WORKING? BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU THOUGHT WRONG? There is nothing wrong with that feeling. It's called learning. Get used to it.
-A message to all close minded skeptics
Nomen luni, sorry for that assumption. I have been getting attacked a lot lately and that makes me a bit defensive.
Well, we are chasing the free energy demon. This has ramifications all the way from quantum physics to astrophysics. Zero point energy is cracking the energy out of the ether with the electromagnetic null zone. While other technologies require a star system to operate, such as solar panels and soft particle reactors. Yet there are numerous others that are somewhere in the middle, such as gravity wheels or wind power, or sea wave conversion. What about watermills or inductive kickback generators. You might term this new science as Free Energy Physics, or Overunity Physics and they literally encompass all science that came before it.
Probably the most difficult task that modern man has endeavored to accomplish.
I know we will all have fun with that, in the mean time I am damn tired...
Hi z.monkey, is this a picture of your most favorite device? how does it work?
Howdy,
Go check out the Soft Particle Physics thread.
Blessed Be...
Why are people discussing what other people think?
I belive this forum exist so everyone can expose their thinking and receive feedback from others.
You can do brainstorming here, if you like what someone thinks, you like it, if you don't... well...
I never seen Stefan reject somebody's opinion just because he don't like it.
I could tell you that mayor people here are failing to achieve overunity because they are seeking the meaning of the word overunity, trying to rip "well known" phisics laws, instead of trying to build machines that extract more energy than needed for operating the machine, like i said before, how many energy is contained on TNT, how many energy you need to make TNT explode, how many energy TNT relases when explodes. For me, that's overunity... you are not creating energy, you just found a way to get more for less, no matter how or where was that exceding energy contained. But somebody will say that's not overunity.
Now... somebody will try to make shame on me because for what i think? If you don't like it, what can i do?
For me, is interesting to see (as Yoda says), people complaining for opinions of people who don't make the experiment but give an opinion. We know we are not Einstein, but he just came with theories without any prior test, and see what happened for example with atomic bomb. They (cientific crew) was seeking a way to "implode" the atom, because Einstein had the theory that way the atom could fragment... And you seen Nagasaki and Hirochima.
If i have an opinion, and belive me Stefan will allow everyone to post their opinions... i will post it... if you can prove i'm wrong, do it, and belive me that if you prove i'm wrong, i will be happy and will thank you, but if you cannot prove i'm worng... please, respect my or anybody else opinion.
We are all seeking the same.
@ z.monkey
i like your pic there
looks like it works well
almost like my MOTOR AIDER INDUCTIVE KICKBACK ..... for 3 phase ac motors hummmmm....
ist
Hey Nightlife,
I can understand your frustration of what you are talking about in this thread. It seems that I started a fight in the Overunity Question thread. It's not just that we have a fundamentals problem, but even when two people have similar concepts in their minds, they don't pick the same words to express their ideas. It seems a miscommunication of an idea is fodder for a virtual battle of intellects. Then there are the people who are just out in space. They try to convey and idea, or whatever is in their head, and it just comes out as nonsensical gibberish. Like they take one electronics class then watch 100 science fiction movies, and then go try to invent something.
I would like to interject an idea at this point. It would be wrong to disallow anyone access to a public forum. After all this is a smelting pot of ideas and everyone should have access to and be able to interject ideas. But I am thinking that there should be a certified layer, above general public access. Something that established members can access when they have more that X amount of posts (full member status) and have to pass some sort of competency exams to prove that they are seriously interested in pursuing the quest for free energy for the benefit of mankind. This would keep access to the certified layer away from the anti-productive factions which are making this site undesirable.
So what do you think?
Blessed Be...
z.monkey, I honestly would hate to see anyone left out and just hope all can discuss things respectfully. There are some of us that don't have much education in this field but I think what we are all looking for is beyond anyones education level.
I think things are fine as they are although I must say, some do push things a bit to far as for the way they talk to others.
Quote from: z.monkey on March 20, 2008, 02:32:01 PM
Hey Nightlife,
I can understand your frustration of what you are talking about in this thread. It seems that I started a fight in the Overunity Question thread. It's not just that we have a fundamentals problem, but even when two people have similar concepts in their minds, they don't pick the same words to express their ideas. It seems a miscommunication of an idea is fodder for a virtual battle of intellects. Then there are the people who are just out in space. They try to convey and idea, or whatever is in their head, and it just comes out as nonsensical gibberish. Like they take one electronics class then watch 100 science fiction movies, and then go try to invent something.
I would like to interject an idea at this point. It would be wrong to disallow anyone access to a public forum. After all this is a smelting pot of ideas and everyone should have access to and be able to interject ideas. But I am thinking that there should be a certified layer, above general public access. Something that established members can access when they have more that X amount of posts (full member status) and have to pass some sort of competency exams to prove that they are seriously interested in pursuing the quest for free energy for the benefit of mankind. This would keep access to the certified layer away from the anti-productive factions which are making this site undesirable.
So what do you think?
Blessed Be...
I think that when someone is trying to build something they should be able to start a new thread and be the modorator of that thread .
No one should have to put up with pages of posts from skeptics that have never tried to build anything in their intire lives.
I have been making plans and buying parts for quite a while now getting ready for my project.
I have been here long enough to know better than to post anything without proof .
( in this forum it is a major sin to claim overunity if you can't quickly prove it. ..........although skeptics can make any claim that they want about something being imposable and no proof is ever expected .)
I will not have any proof until my project is finished and running.
I don't have the background to explain my ideas according to standard scientific rules .
I have no desire to spend much of my time explaining why normal scientific laws may not apply.
I would think that the best thing a builder could do to save time for everyone interested in his or her idea is to ban the skeptics from the thread .
I am not suggesting that skeptics be banned from the whole site ....... just threads for actually building things.
gary