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Title: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: bolt on March 23, 2008, 08:56:40 PM
I dont know if this has been discussed on here but i haven't looked on this site but there was a guy in the US that built joe newman machine many years ago and eventually decided it did never go over unity but it got damn close to parity. He said over many years of testing and using small batteries it could swap the batteries about and could run the motor for many weeks while charging another he swap back again rather like Bedeni motor.

He summed up that the amount of energy recovered from the ether was only just enough to cover the running load of the motor in other words it had a COP of  0.9996%

BUT this is important! During this testing this guy whose name slips my mind something like Mills or Wells i think found the JN machine effected the weather. Its literally cleared the sky of clouds above the house where the motor was running! Apparently, the art of controlling the weather in the US is now pretty good in the last 10 years as there is a national weather network of a modified JN machines all over the US controlled by private scientist and technicians. Between the network of devices they can angle them towards storms and deflect them and even create rain within hours when set to "rain mode".

Joe Newman knows about this he has been told about it several years ago. You can ask him im sure he will vouch for it. Like all this technology it has serious implications.

First in weather mode what happens when people start controlling their own weather patch for profit and greed creating havoc.?

Second will all devices that work on the depression of the ether cause weather disturbances even when you don't want them too?

Third, it proves that whatever IS happening is drawing on a natural wave which has other serious implications and thus hardly surprising  the governments  have gone out of their way to suppress this technology.

Finally if this is true then there is merit in to putting more effort into all this technology because it means Joe Newman isnt a crank after all.


Footnote; yes the latest videos are a shame he could far better convincing vids but the part when he spun the flywheel round by hand was so funny.  I bet under the cover of that machine the original motor has long gone and its now driven by a 12 volts DC wiper motor :) 

Still a good one though.

PS where is the best JN machine thread and diagram i want to build one and clear some clouds around here?
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: ramset on March 23, 2008, 09:19:17 PM
I think you take a 65 caddy deville [ about 7000 lbs] lay it on its side in an empty deep swimming pool and drive a broom handle thru it so you can spin it real fast [not half fast]  but I forget the rest    all   kidding aside they really experience atmospheric anomolies around his machines ?  Chet
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: bolt on March 23, 2008, 09:25:43 PM
Yes if anyone has more info on this weather tweaking stuff. Please post in here. I have it on good source its real.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: Chad on March 23, 2008, 11:15:19 PM
this link has a rather lengthy but interesting write up of the effects you mention, also it explains possitive effects on health.....wonder if its along the same lines as the bob beck device?.

http://www.rexresearch.com/wells/wells.htm

im off to drag my newman machine from storage and bring some sunshine my way  :D :)
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: bolt on March 24, 2008, 12:42:47 AM
Thankyou so much i couldn't remember the guys name David Wells. Its sure a lively story if nothing else but there is a radio interview here but i had not the time to listen yet i will do so tomorrow. On its own merits it doesn't really amount to much without more evidence but it helps form the wider picture that for Newman and other devices like the TPU we could be dealing with much more then just "back EMF" or "static electricity"

http://pesn.com/Radio/Free_Energy_Now/recordings/2007/071224_DavidWells_WeatherMachine.mp3 (http://pesn.com/Radio/Free_Energy_Now/recordings/2007/071224_DavidWells_WeatherMachine.mp3)
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: bolt on March 24, 2008, 08:36:10 AM
The Newman weather machine is said to cut a 20 mile wide window in the sky. A quick check on the wavelength shows 9.314119853 Khz
reflects this size wavelength. However can not be sure as may not be dealing with normal waves.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: bolt on March 24, 2008, 09:02:19 PM
Well im surprised to see over 150 visits to this thread now and only one reply. I find this odd that many must  have built a Newman machine which is doubtful to produce "useful" amounts of OU and by that i mean enough to tap off anything more then cover system loses and charge a battery but don't want to investigate other properties like changing the weather:)

Just might find that the frequencies required to do this may in fact be the requirements to produce copious amounts of OU once the device is in tune with Nature that up till now haven't been properly realized. In an event at least you can dust off the old Newman motor you built months ago and abandoned to see if any weather changes can be noted.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: Chad on March 24, 2008, 09:07:55 PM
Hi bolt, do we have any idea of the physical size of the machine wells was using when he noticed the weather changing effects?, i mean is it a monstrous machine like joe newman made or a smaller device that only weighes a few lbs?.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: bolt on March 24, 2008, 10:16:47 PM
Chad i get the impression that it was a small device. Like us we dont go rushing making the biggest till you know what your dealing with. As he said the weather effect was a pure accident. But later he did build larger machines to give more effect on the weather so there is a size/performance issue here. However to punch a hole the size of a town only requires a small unit powered by a moped battery kinda of 12 v 5 AH that type of size.

I think it interesting that the 5 year drought in Texas was blamed on Joe Newman sat there with his window box newman motor fan running for 5 years non stop completely ignorant to the fact HE may have been the cause of the drought.:)


Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: blackdragon on April 02, 2008, 07:47:40 PM
I have heard that a guy named Odis (don?t know the spelling of the name) was doing some research with EMF and weather control.
I heard this from a friend of mine; he?s been working with these motors for a couple of years now and has witnessed the effect first hand.
also I may of seen this effect it was raining here a few days ago and I fired up the motor and within 20 min?s the sky cleared up a little but I don?t know if this was it or not.
   Just a thought, see if you can find Odis, I couldn?t but I do know there is more info out there on this. Just look at the HARP towers

Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: Feynman on April 03, 2008, 10:39:58 AM
The US has not had normal weather for over 15 years now.   If you think this is from Newman motors, I'm afraid not...

(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cyberspaceorbit.com%2Fcloud_waves062406_2l.jpg&hash=7fe48272e5b468e0a593144508b68cd51ac01a6b)
Cedar Rapids


(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cheniere.org%2Fclouds%2F092702%2FPict2802a.jpg&hash=e9d5381e4965fb29fdbd75ab7aed6a618c238bbf)
Unknown-, Bearden.


These are scalar energy signatures.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: Magnethos on April 05, 2008, 12:36:43 PM
This is amazing... Thik about a simple JN machine can change the weather of a big place... Is very fantastic. I think that I have seen an article on google speaking about it, I?m not sure, but I like to participate in forums and I?m going to give my opinion.

(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg529.imageshack.us%2Fimg529%2F3314%2Fnewmanweathermbm0.th.jpg&hash=2f3d1a55de49fcff88c4a8a33dd9518ffae12ede) (http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newmanweathermbm0.jpg)

In a normal condition, there is a distance between the energy from the terrain and the energy that is in the atmosphere/clouds. If we are using a newman motor, there is an accumulation of energy in the terrain that
accumulates itself until a point that there is too much energy and the energy from terrain is affected and amplified. In this point, the distance between the terrain energy and the sky energy is reduced and the attraction between the atmosphere energy and the terrain energy increases. This effect attracts the clouds and the storm into a determinate point (in this case the point that is above the house).

In normal conditions, the accumulation of the terrain energy is low, and by the effect of the air (the air is like a dielectric material between terrain and sky) there is a sufficient separation between the terrain energy and the sky energy and there isn?t enough energy to make an attraction between a point of the terrain and the clouds.

I hope this little explanation helps to understand better. And I have to say, this is a personal opinion.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: david wells on April 09, 2008, 03:58:29 AM
This is David Wells . The stuff you have been reading about this is real . These machines do control the weather . I am seeking people who are interested in participating in developing a network of these machines across the land . I enough of these machines were in place and properly operated , bad weather could be reduced .
    If you qualify , I will build you a machine and send it to you . You will be responsible for the control of the weather in your area to the best of your ability . Machines work differently in different areas so you will have to learn to operate your machine . It is directional . Noth , south , east and west all have different effects on the weather . Once you learn what it does , it's easy . You just have to keep an eye on the weather and make adjustments to elminate severe weather . If you want to particpate , contact me at davidwells3@gmail.com
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: b0rg13 on April 09, 2008, 04:23:12 AM
could you post the plans on how to build one by chance?. ty.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: david wells on April 09, 2008, 10:02:51 AM
I could send you plans . I would like to know more about who gets the plans . The government doesn't suppress this technology. In fact , it seems no one really cares what you do to the weather . No one will fund the project . The results of operating the machine are just different weather of the ordinary kind , a little unusual , but just weather . Skeptics will say that was what was going to happen anyway and the machine doesn't work . The skeptics have the attention span of 2 year olds and never look at what is happening long enough to realize this really works .
    Weather engineering is complicated . Some things take days or weeks to set up . Very few things happen rapidly . Punching a hole in the clouds is one thing , this happens fast but doesn't accomplish anything . Setting up a rain storm takes planning and quite some time . Controlling a hurricane takes weeks . The skeptic is long gone by the time you have anything for them to look at in most cases .
    Other  than cloud busters and seeding , I have the only thing that seems to make a difference . the cloud buster manipulates the same force as the machine . A different way , the same force .
    When I discovered this , I thought I would be rich . Big surprise , no one cares . People would rather clean up the mess and rebuild the town after the hurricane or tornado blows the town away and kills a lot of people than support a project like this . So I have had to fund the project myself . I am not wealthy , so thing are moving forward slowly . Meanwhile , uncontrolled storms ravage and kill . These things are cheap and the project would cost less than the damage to a small town from a tornado .
    If I had placed a machine in the New Orleans area , Katrina would have been a different story . The storm could have been weakened . Until machines are in place , nature can ravage and kill . Droughts and floods and forest fires come and go at natures call . It is time man takes control of the weather . Until this happens , people will die and property will get destroyed .
    The machine is powerful , but nature is more powerful . Big storms can only be changed a little bit , but sometimes a little bit makes a big difference . Steer the storm to the field instead of letting it come down main street . This is possible .
    When you contact me , tell me about yourself . davidwells3@gmail.com 
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: b0rg13 on April 09, 2008, 04:34:56 PM
well i dont live in the usa so i probly dont fit in to your plan, but id still like to see the plans and im betting so would a lot of other folks, im also intersted in wich part of the machine is pointed to north/south etc ( oh and if i was living in the usa , id move lol). 8)
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: david wells on April 09, 2008, 07:55:02 PM
To bOrg , I plan to see this go global . davidwells3@gmail.com
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: b0rg13 on April 09, 2008, 08:07:02 PM
where abouts on the planet are you living David ?. would you build me a small machine and send it to me if i was not in the usa(im guessing thats where you might be from), id love to test one out and see just how it all works out. i would have probly built one my self by now , but when i go looking at plans i see all kinds of different ones out there, but if your doing this and need a certain model and type id rather follow what your trying to do, if this is the case ill email you.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: Feynman on April 09, 2008, 09:02:09 PM
I want to clarify my original comment.  I do not mean to say weather change is not possible via Newman technique.  Rather, my point is that the massive scalar weather engineering going on in our sky, is not, in general, due to the acts of individual humans.

Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: david wells on April 09, 2008, 10:43:20 PM
bOrg 13  , I live in Marble rock , Iowa . The photo from Cedar Rapids was probably generated by one of my tests . Cedar Rapids is about 100 miles from my town . The Bearden photo is typical of the wave interference pattern caused by the storm . Tom Bearden  is aware of what I am doing . I sent him a machine back in 1995 . He decided not to participate in the project because of his high level position . He feared if he got involved , it could cause the project to be supressed . I think he may have been right to do so . I did manage to get Walter Rosenthal on the team and he was a big help in unraveling the way the machine works . Walter died early this year .
    I am sending a machine to New Zealand this week . This will be the first machine out of the USA . We don't know if it will work in that part of the world . I have operators waiting in South Africa , Canada , Hawaii . Ponta Rico and several states in the USA. I need 14 new machines and counting .
   I don't want to see this great discovery get lost and buried like a lot of great ideas . that is why I decided to open source the machine . Send me an Email . I don't want to post the plans on the forum . I don't want the process used as a weapon . The people who run these things are the good guys and are trying to make the world a better place .
   Do you have machinery . A lathe and a mill really help . I built one with a saw and a drill once , but it did not hold up very well . The machines usually run 24 - 7 . You need to build with precision so the machine doesn't break down .
    Tell me about yourself , what part of the planet do you live on . What weather problems do you have . Use my email .
davidwells3@gmail.com   
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: b0rg13 on April 09, 2008, 10:50:25 PM
im from NZ as well , would you like to send a 2nd machine here?, if so ill email you,.( im not really in a position to build one,but i would try if i had to, im not sure id get it right tho, and id rather get it right than wrong).

( i would like to learn about this if you have the time to send and teach me about the machine).
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: david wells on April 09, 2008, 11:05:34 PM
To Feynman . I just looked at your website . Would you be interested in trying to identify the wave or force that is created by these machines . It is something new in physics . A scalar wave of some sort . Scalar waves are measured on a scale like pressure in a tire . A scope is useless because nothing occilates . The wave is just there exerting a pressure  . the pressure can be positive or negative so different types of waves exist . The waves have not been measured as of yet . I have had some very smart people try to do it . We know the waves exist because we can see the patterns in the storm clouds when we run the machines . Email me at davidwells3@gmail.com   Do you work with John Bedini ? some of his circuits are similar to mine . David Wells
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: david wells on April 09, 2008, 11:20:32 PM
bOrg 13 . Very good . The waves from Arizona , USA are what controls the world's weather . New Zealand is clear on the other  side of the world . The operator who is getting the machine is looking for another operator in New Zealand . If 2 machines are deployed , they will generate waves to each other and control will be more likely as the waves can interfere . If there are no natural waves in the area , one machine will not likely work . It's like throwing a rock into a pond , the waves move in ever growing circles . Throw in a second rock a little ways from the first and you will see wave interference . Where the waves cross , rain falls . One machine may be able to steer ocean storms to the island . 2 machines could make it rain on the backside of the ridge . I will start building you a machine . We need to put something in Austrailia also . They are worse off than you from what I have read . davidwells3@gmail.com
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: b0rg13 on April 09, 2008, 11:26:11 PM
i have just sent an email , it sure would be intersting to make it rain, we are constantly being shown on the news that our hydro lakes are dry and our power prices keep going up, i guess they think if we pay more it might rain more ?.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: b0rg13 on April 09, 2008, 11:33:46 PM
i just had a thought, it might be a bit far out tho, what does it take to power one of these machines ?. if its not much maybe it might be possable to plug it into the ground ?, there is a thread here that talks about earth batteries , i havent been able to make much sence from it yet, i dont really understand the jargen ? of what there talking about , but the message im getting is that they are able to draw some power of some kind, the other thing ive seen here is that circut that takes very little power to drive an led .. ill see if i can find the link....http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4223.0/topicseen.html .. this is it.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: david wells on April 09, 2008, 11:55:17 PM
bOrg 13 . the machine runs on 2  12 volt batteries and uses very little electricity . About 1/2 amp runs the machine . The more wire in the coil , the less amps it uses . One battery runs down and the other charges up . Swaping batteries every so often will enable a very long run on a little bit of electricity. It would probably run for a year on a couple of cents worth of electricity . To run this , we don't need the free energy . It runs cheap . Just charge the battery from time to time when needed and control the weather . My circuit is some what different than the Joe Newman motor . However , I am fairly certain that his machine generates the same waves as mine . Other devices may make these waves , but the people running the devices would be unaware that their device was controling weather . My machine only makes a visible change from the area of the machine in one direction setting . If you point it east , it punches a hole through the clouds and brings out the sun . All other directions require looking at the radar to tell what is happening . Does NZ have satelite radar coverage ? I haven"t been able to find a radar site on my computer that covers NZ      davidwells3@gmail.com
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: b0rg13 on April 10, 2008, 12:06:01 AM
good question , ill have to do some digging and see what i can find out re the radar part, btw i live almost in the center of the north island, where is the other machine going to be located?, we have two major dams, one in the north island and one maybe two in the south island, from what i see on the news it seems to be the south island that is running low constantly.

(also i sent an email from content1967,).
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: b0rg13 on April 10, 2008, 12:30:30 AM
something like this http://www.metvuw.com/radar/radar.php?location=nz ?.

or this even http://www.metvuw.com/satellite/ ?.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: david wells on April 10, 2008, 01:42:36 AM
to bOrg 13 , your radar looks ok . the first one will be the most useful . the green is rain . that is what you will be looking for . The second one is the watervapor . It will tell you where the highs and lows are . the machine will control the lows . the lows will indirectly control the highs . Until your machine arrives you should study how weather works . You need to know this in order to operate the device . In the northern hemisphere , lows move to the left of the direction you point the machine . I am guessing the exact opposite will be what you find . Lows should shift to the right in NZ . davidwells#@gmail.com
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: b0rg13 on April 10, 2008, 02:16:49 AM
ive been interested in weather for a long time now and watch it every night just after the news/comedy , from what i can tell our highs/sun and lows/rain mostly come in from the west the weather is cool and fresh from the west, sometimes it will blow in from the east and its noticable that it gets hot and muggy/humid ?, im not sure if you got my email , ill sent another one, it might end up in your junk mail /shrug.

edit , afew mins later , i found your email reply in my junk box ;).
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: Feynman on April 10, 2008, 11:26:57 AM
From what I hear, part of the crop failures in Australia are due to drought.

It would be nice to make it rain.

@david
No I don't know John Bedini but I follow his work closely.  Same with Bearden. Generally I think weather modification is involving scalar energy, which as I understand it are "compression" based EM radiation.  Certainly I'd be interested in this sort of research.  A good first step might be to place a spectral analyzer near the machine with it ON and OFF and scan from 1khz - 10Ghz.   That way , you identify any transverse EM radiation and establish a "baseline" for the regular EM energy.  Scalar waves are harder to detect, but it is possible (using Caduceus coil, superconducting magnet/faraday cage, etc).
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: utilitarian on April 10, 2008, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: david wells on April 09, 2008, 10:02:51 AM
The results of operating the machine are just different weather of the ordinary kind , a little unusual , but just weather . Skeptics will say that was what was going to happen anyway and the machine doesn't work . The skeptics have the attention span of 2 year olds and never look at what is happening long enough to realize this really works .

That is awesome.  However, I noticed that my coffeemaker does the same thing.  Whenever I run it, the weather changes a little bit.  Like the wind maybe picks up, or maybe it dies down, or the clouds move a little.  Nothing out of the ordinary or unusual, but you know, like little changes.  Now, don't ask me to predict how the weather is going to change, but just it will change and it may not be that noticeable but it always changes a little.  Coincidence?  I don't think so.  My coffeemaker really does do this.

Also, it makes traffic lights on the street go from green to yellow to red, or sometimes from red to green.  Not like instantly when I push the button, but shortly thereafter.  You just have to wait a few seconds and they change.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: david wells on April 10, 2008, 03:54:09 PM
To Utilitarian , I would like to see your modified coffee maker . maybe it works better than my motor . Will it remove the clouds and then bring them back ? My motor does this . It's not coincidence . Can you steer a low pressure system ? My machine can . Can you change the weather forcast ? My machine can . I can rain on your parade . Can you rain on mine ?  David Wells
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: utilitarian on April 10, 2008, 07:01:14 PM
Quote from: david wells on April 10, 2008, 03:54:09 PM
To Utilitarian , I would like to see your modified coffee maker . maybe it works better than my motor . Will it remove the clouds and then bring them back ? My motor does this . It's not coincidence . Can you steer a low pressure system ? My machine can . Can you change the weather forcast ? My machine can . I can rain on your parade . Can you rain on mine ?  David Wells

Mine can do all that yours can do plus make coffee.  Do not doubt my coffee maker, you heretic.  It is sheeple like you that allow the government to oppress us.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: b0rg13 on April 10, 2008, 07:05:03 PM
i guess no one is giving you the attention your after in the other threads so you drifted in here?. ::)
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: utilitarian on April 10, 2008, 07:15:40 PM
Quote from: b0rg13 on April 10, 2008, 07:05:03 PM
i guess no one is giving you the attention your after in the other threads so you drifted in here?. ::)

How uncalled for!  I am a scientist and only seek the truth. I care nothing for attention, except to the extent that it draws attention on my work and allows others to assist in an open source effort.

You guys are just mad because all your device does is spin a magnet around and change the weather.  My device is also electro-magnetic, changes the weather, but also makes coffee.

I will publish the plans for my device, to allow others to replicate it, just as soon as I manage to take it apart and see how it's made.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: Feynman on April 10, 2008, 08:33:31 PM
I think utilitarian has a good point which is this: 

1) tests must have a control
2) must have predictable observable results which can be readily duplicated.
3) results must have statistical significance (not result of random chance within a certain bound of confidence)

If those factors are in place , then as far as I'm concerned it's worth experimenting.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: david wells on April 10, 2008, 09:51:23 PM
to Feynman , I have been testing this since 1994 . It is hard to imagine a control for this . You can't have two weather systems .
   As for duplication , it gets repeatable results . The settings generate repeatable results . If you set it to reduce rain , it reduces rain . If set to increase rain , it increases rain . It works without fail .
   It mainly adjusts precipitation . The force involved is something new . I have seen it do some strange things . It puts a charge in water that enables mild steel to be heat treated . I have A36 steel hardened to 50 Rockwell C with tensil strength of 200,000 psi . There is no carbon in A36 so you can't heat treat it . The machine will charge the  water and the steel gets hard and strong.
   Ripley said , "Believe it or not"  You will have to see it work . When it gets established and is as common as the telephone , you can say you were a skeptic when you first heard of it .
   I didn't invent this . I discovered it . I looked at it for 6 months before I was sure it worked .
   Have you looked at Mollers Atomic Hydrogen Generator ? It's on google . This is the closest to free energy I have seen so far .     David Wells
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: utilitarian on April 10, 2008, 11:58:20 PM
Quote from: david wells on April 10, 2008, 09:51:23 PM
to Feynman , I have been testing this since 1994 . It is hard to imagine a control for this . 

If you cannot imagine a control for a scientific experiment, then you are no scientist.  Have you never heard of double-blind?

Take a box.  Put the machine in the box and hide it somewhere, so you cannot see it or hear it.  Find two friends.  On random days, have one friend either turn the machine on or not turn the machine on.  Have him keep that fact secret.  The person turning on the machine on certain days cannot know which days you will actually be making observations.

You and the other friend will then observe and make notes on whether the weather is changing or not.

At the end of the trial period, you will compare and see how many times you thought the weather was changing when the machine was actually turned off.

See, not hard?  It took me all of 2 minutes to think this up.  In how many years, you have never considered performing this honest scientific experiment?

EDIT:

With a proper double blind, you can basically test for all possibilities:

1.  Machine may be on or off.
2.  You either predict a specific change or predict no change
3.  The weather changes as predicted, changes against prediction, or does not change at all

So that is 2x2x3, or 12 total possibilities of what can happen.  You will need a reasonable statistical sample, perhaps 30 days of daily data.  A high accuracy percentage will go a long way to supporting your claims.

Have you considered that the reason no one takes you seriously is because you have not done a serious test?
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: b0rg13 on April 11, 2008, 12:59:04 AM
Quote from: utilitarian on April 10, 2008, 11:58:20 PM
Quote from: david wells on April 10, 2008, 09:51:23 PM
to Feynman , I have been testing this since 1994 . It is hard to imagine a control for this . 

If you cannot imagine a control for a scientific experiment, then you are no scientist.  Have you never heard of double-blind?

Take a box.  Put the machine in the box and hide it somewhere, so you cannot see it or hear it.  Find two friends.  On random days, have one friend either turn the machine on or not turn the machine on.  Have him keep that fact secret.  The person turning on the machine on certain days cannot know which days you will actually be making observations.

You and the other friend will then observe and make notes on whether the weather is changing or not.

At the end of the trial period, you will compare and see how many times you thought the weather was changing when the machine was actually turned off.

See, not hard?  It took me all of 2 minutes to think this up.  In how many years, you have never considered performing this honest scientific experiment?

EDIT:

With a proper double blind, you can basically test for all possibilities:

1.  Machine may be on or off.
2.  You either predict a specific change or predict no change
3.  The weather changes as predicted, changes against prediction, or does not change at all

So that is 2x2x3, or 12 total possibilities of what can happen.  You will need a reasonable statistical sample, perhaps 30 days of daily data.  A high accuracy percentage will go a long way to supporting your claims.

Have you considered that the reason no one takes you seriously is because you have not done a serious test?

how come no one is taking him seriously?, just because you say so ?.,, a few posts up you said you were going to pull apart your coffee maker and tell us how it works ?, did you perform the same tests on your coffee maker that your saying David should do on his machine useing two friends that you thought up ?,...im curious about your coffee maker btw, does it really make coffee or are you putting coffee in it and just saying it does ?,.. hmmmmm. ::)
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: utilitarian on April 11, 2008, 01:26:53 AM
Quote from: b0rg13 on April 11, 2008, 12:59:04 AM
im curious about your coffee maker btw, does it really make coffee or are you putting coffee in it and just saying it does ?,.. hmmmmm. ::)

I have done extensive double-blind studies on the coffee maker.  I have been able to successfully identify whether or not it is making coffee 100% of the time!  The machine is the real deal.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: david wells on April 11, 2008, 04:43:51 AM
To Utilitarian , Over the years , I have done far more than you suggested . In 1996 , I use the machine in Iowa to manipulate tropical storm Andrus which formed on the west coast by Baha . I had 4 of these machines and none were deployed elsewhere .
   I had learned that low pressure systems would move to the left of the direction I pointed the device . To test it's range , I thought Andrus would make a good target .
   I dialed the machines onto the storm and it began to move to the left . It moved clear down the west coast to Panama when it disolved and broke up . The trip took over a week . By adjusting the angle , I could steer the storm toward or away from shore .
   You want statistics ? The weather people have been tracking storms that formed on this spot since 1886 . Andrus was number 705 . Every other storm that formed there , without exception traveled out to sea toward Hawaii .
   I don't think coincidence was the thing on this test . A storm responds as expected and one out of 705 decided to go the wrong way and fooled me into thinking this works ? I have done 1000's of other tests that are proof this works . You have to watch it run to see what it does .  This would be difficult for a person who has no idea who is running a machine or where the machine is . All you would know is some unusual weather is happening and the weatherman can't seem to get it right . They get it right  if we let them . Many of the early tests were to reverse a forcast . Sorry weathermen . I should have let you know .
   Scott Stevens noticed what we were doing . He documented a lot of the things we did by taking pictures of unusual clouds .
We didn't document anything because of fear of repression . It seemed better that no one knew what was going on until we figured out how it worked .
   I know that is a little unscientific , but Nixon kept records and look what happened to him . No records , no proof we did anything . These things are not toys . If you screw up , you can flood the town . Fortunately , we learned quickly and didn't make many mistakes .
   The problem that became glaringly obvious early on was lack of properly positioned machines . Each machine has zones that it controls very well . It won't do anything to other locations . It's wave interference , You have control where the waves interefere and no control where they don't . Some events we could control because a machine was in position to do so . Other events went uncontrolled due to a lack of  a machine in the right spot . We need a lot of these machines . One in every state would be good with more along the east coast . Machines in the Virgin Islands could intercept and steer hurricanes .
   If your coffee pot works as good as my motors , we should join forces . I need all the help I can get . It's a big world .
   Your coffee pot idea is not that far fetched . We have determined that the effect could possibly be generated with only a coil driven by a pulse generator . The spinning magnet might not be necessary . We are working on that . This is not the only way to cause this effect . Better devices are sure to follow as we learn more about how it works . My device , state of the art , compares with the first telephone . It works , but better stuff will follow . David Wells   
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: AceGarcia on August 05, 2009, 12:54:22 AM
I also read this in the newpaper newman machine changes the weather.


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Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 05, 2009, 01:31:33 AM
You know, I actually thought up the idea about 20 years ago where we could build a 10 to 20 foot diameter flat ultrasonic transducer speaker on a rotatable and angled(Automated) table in the deserts and in areas of need of rain.

the ultrasonic speaker being tuned to coagulate air and water vapor into larger droplets creating rain clouds.

but it never really got any further than an idea.

Jerry ;)
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: sensitivecaveman on August 29, 2011, 02:47:43 PM
Are you the REAL David Wells?  ;) The David Wells on Rex research did not want to give out plans. And rightly so. If this motor really works I think the danger of it falling into the wrong hands is too scary. We would have weather wars. If you are the real David Wells my friend, please choose wisely who you send the plans to. From reading the original description I think the motor works. I think the machine should be developed for it's beneficial health effects.   
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: Low-Q on August 29, 2011, 03:15:09 PM
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 05, 2009, 01:31:33 AM
You know, I actually thought up the idea about 20 years ago where we could build a 10 to 20 foot diameter flat ultrasonic transducer speaker on a rotatable and angled(Automated) table in the deserts and in areas of need of rain.

the ultrasonic speaker being tuned to coagulate air and water vapor into larger droplets creating rain clouds.

but it never really got any further than an idea.

Jerry ;)
The effect is well known. Ultrasonic sound systems is already used to beam audioable frequencies over great distances. The ultrasonic sound is modulated with audio, and the air itself demodulate the sound into audioable sound. During the demodulation, heat is created. This heat can change weather if it is enough heat. However, the sonic power must be incredible high to have any noticable effect on the air temperature. Ultrasonic sound devices has been used inside a chamber of helium in order to create a resonance which creates an incredible soundpressure at 190dB. This soundpressure compress the helium at one part of the chamber, and decompress the other part. The helium is then pumped in a circuit to be used as a heat exchanger. Very efficient one too.

Vidar
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: Dave45 on August 29, 2011, 06:18:25 PM
Send some rain to Texas we've been in a drought for three to four years now.
Title: Re: Newman Machine Changes the Weather.
Post by: ThundrH4wk on January 26, 2012, 03:19:57 AM
WOW!

So you're telling me that this ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU7jjmQECd8

A newman machine
An over glorified battery charger in a spaghetti bowl
will make it rain, deflect tropical storms and hurricanes??
If it really does then I'll put my foot in my mouth but I cant right now because I'm too busy

LAUGHING MY A** OFF!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!

I seriously have tears in my eyes right now lol Sorry for the language guys but I simply COULD NOT resist this one.