Hi All,
have a look at his setup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX20QtSlWF4
He can generate a voltage between the SS plate and his
torch tip.
This could be used to generate electricity more easily than using
a fuel cell.
The question is, how high the conversion efficiency from HHO to
electricity is this way ?
Did anybody else try this yet ?
What metals are best used to generate the most electrical energy this way ?
Stephan interesting I have oxy acetylene torch out in the shop I can answer scarecrows question tomorrow personally with rubber hoses I don't see how scarecrow or myself could get any voltage reading but who knows he's obviously got something there I was wondering also if anybody has the calculations on BTU per litre of this gas hydroxy 'browns ETC thanx Chet
From what I understand that would make complete sense as you are exciting electrons when you heat the atoms? since electric is electron flow, it would seem logical that heating the metal speeds up electron orbits, and to a point some of them break free. On the same hand I would also think that this is a very inefficient way of producing voltage.
I think it was Bob Boyce said,when you recombine hydrogen and oxygen you have leftover electrons for extraction.So when you oxidize
the mix in your ICE you have an electrical discharge inside your motor. Regards Ivan T.
Quote from: hartiberlin on March 25, 2008, 11:57:52 AM
Hi All,
have a look at his setup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX20QtSlWF4
He can generate a voltage between the SS plate and his
torch tip.
This could be used to generate electricity more easily than using
a fuel cell.
The question is, how high the conversion efficiency from HHO to
electricity is this way ?
Did anybody else try this yet ?
What metals are best used to generate the most electrical energy this way ?
Hmmm... Very interesting. It may require some method of de-focusing the flame, so that it don't burn holes in the metal though.
The free floating electrons, are sqeezed out of metal when it's heated. The atoms vibrate faster so the pressure in the volume of the metal is increased. The metal would expand more but the properties of metal is that it donesn't expand much, so the pressure of the volume of space must be exertted by the electrons blasting away. This is probably why metal conducts heat so well, the heated area blasts electrons into the lower temperature area, and the slower vibrating atoms absorb the momentum, which heats them up and slows the electrons down.
I wonder how many Amps it can pump though ?.
BULBZ please explain what you just posted I did a test today and got nothing on oxy acetlyene thank you Chet
Quote from: ramset on March 26, 2008, 08:14:52 PM
BULBZ please explain what you just posted I did a test today and got nothing on oxy acetlyene thank you Chet
What I was wondering after I watched the part of the video where a volt meter was used, if it produces a significant voltage, will it produce any usefull current.
PS...
If you are not getting a result with Oxy-Acetylene, then the basic reason as to why HHO produces a voltage is, it must be due to the fact that the Hydrogen and Oxygen molecules are oppositely charged. It may be because the two charges act in a similar way to charges in a battery cell, but in this case there may be an electron given off during the burning process or when the molecules meet to become water again.
This is the best that I can explain myself at the moment. ;)
Another thought just entered my head...
Does anybody know if Oxygen and Acetylene have different or similar charges ?. Because if they both have the same charge, then this may be the reason why burning Oxy-Acetylene does not produce any voltage.
Oh his torch tip, I didn't read that right before (and I just scanned the video) but I bet this is what's happening
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Eneco_power_chip
There's crystales that when squeezed exert electrons too. I wonder what would happen if these crystals are used instead of metal?
Quote from: buzneg on March 26, 2008, 11:21:26 PM
Oh his torch tip, I didn't read that right before (and I just scanned the video) but I bet this is what's happening
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Eneco_power_chip
There's crystales that when squeezed exert electrons too. I wonder what would happen if these crystals are used instead of metal?
Definately worth trying it with crystals, might work.
[EDIT] Might need to pulse the flame though, so that it oscillates the crystal. [/EDIT]