STOP SNITCHING!!! >:(
Some of the people here have started a thread about an overunity device on ebay from ncbooks. And since the threads start, certain folks have basically reported or threatened to report this fellow to the authorities (Ebay, District Attorney, FBI) because they don't believe what he is doing is right.
ARE YOU GUYS STUPID?!?!? Let me tell you what you are doing by relying on your nanny state governing bodies to regulate things like this.
- First of all, I FULLY AGREE HIS ACTIONS ARE DECEITFUL!
- Second, you are attracting bad attention to free energy groups overall from the Feds. Uhhh...need the MIB to save you from wasting money now? Idiots.
- Second, stupid people make stupid purchases all the time. Money gets wasted. SO WHAT?!? Is it your job to save every stupid person in the world from themselves? Or did a couple dummies fall for the temptation and order the products OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL?!?!?
- Third...there may have been some laws violated...but is it your job to enforce these laws? Wait till America's government passes an international law for the crime of thinking. Then will you turn in your neighbor for having an idea? Will we be snitching each other out for thinking then?
- Or what's next? What if I break the laws of thermodynamics, are you going to turn me in too?!? (No because I'm done sharing my ideas any more on here amongst some of the dirty company that seems to collect here.
- Even if ncbooks concept is bunkum, what harm does it do to some aspiring free energy engineers to learn something about electicity? Other than getting electricuted of course, but that's still not your job to enforce safety.
- I mean, Jesus Christ! Some of you even called the police to "check on" Hans von Leven because you hadn't heard from him? ( I bet he really appreciated that too. ) Do you call the police every time the toilet paper runs out?!?
My point is that although ncbooks may be crooked, you guys have not stopped to think about the damage you may be causing much less the lack of benefit in doing so. You are fighting against the cause we work for using the very institutions we are fighting against!?!? ARE YOU KIDDING?!?! Traitorous pricks!
I think this is very bad form. Not to mention I hate snitches and so do a lot of people. What comes around goes around and you guys are all self righteous until it's the authorities knocking on your door. QUIT SNITCHING! It's not your job, regardless of who's right or wrong.
/agreed.
This forum is created for a free flow of information. For sometime now there has been some bad blood going around. People starting beef with each other. Its plain stupid imo. You are here to share ideas, incourage each other, NOT TO PUT DOWN and 'snitch'. There are idiots that pay for elixirs of longevity on ebay lol. Let em buy this free energy product. Never the less. Once u attarct the authorities to this site it will be constantly monitored. This is the last thing we need in here, Govt involvment FBI CIA snooping on us. Internet is the last resort to free speech, since the freedoms are being constantly cut back.
..... And mind your own business.
/cheers.
Quote from: NickT on April 14, 2008, 03:53:14 PM
/agreed.
This forum is created for a free flow of information. For sometime now there has been some bad blood going around. People starting beef with each other. Its plain stupid imo. You are here to share ideas, incourage each other, NOT TO PUT DOWN and 'snitch'. There are idiots that pay for elixirs of longevity on ebay lol. Let em buy this free energy product. Never the less. Once u attarct the authorities to this site it will be constantly monitored. This is the last thing we need in here, Govt involvment FBI CIA snooping on us. Internet is the last resort to free speech, since the freedoms are being constantly cut back.
..... And mind your own business.
/cheers.
Thank you Nick.
Quote from: NickT on April 14, 2008, 03:53:14 PM
Once u attarct the authorities to this site it will be constantly monitored. This is the last thing we need in here, Govt involvment FBI CIA snooping on us. Internet is the last resort to free speech, since the freedoms are being constantly cut back.
Do you think that people are NOT here already, constantly snooping and planting disinfo? While I agree that it is not our job to be the fraud police, to imagine that this forum is somehow "under the radar" is somewhat naive. Overall, though, I do agree with your sentiment. Let's keep it positive. But, at the same time, we also must "keep it real", and not let this forum degenerate into a cheerleading convention. Pointing out BS when we see it helps others to avoid pitfalls and poisoned honeypots.
Hi zero
I do agree with you that this site should not be a carebear convention. My point was try not to start arguments that are degratory to the purpose of this forum. Im sure there are disinfo people here as well as those who just start 'trash talking' for the sake of it. I for one have no background in electrical studies or physics. I'm just one of those people on the outside looking in, and supporting what u are guys doing. I cannot get in between you guys when u guys have flaming wars based on the physics, where i have no knowledge.
Keep up the good work and play NICE !
/cheers
I'm not worried about this site being on the radar. But what happens when the fraud, AND THE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT leads to some sort of loophole law that disables further research? Sound far fetched? Well, since 911, every home chemist in America is suspected of cooking meth or anthrax by their scared complaining neighbors because they noticed a beaker in a garage or something. Laws are tighter and small research is damaged. Wait until you need to apply to the gov't to "play" with electricity or fear imprisonment. They don't just have to suppress free energy, they can make it illegal if they wanted.
"Notice...altering of federally approved rotating electromagnetic fields has been determined highly dangerous by the National Safety Commission. Any persons attempting to do so will be subject to fines and imprisonment of no more than $100,000 and 15 years."
All this type of crying does is create the excuse they need to do it. Yes, there are scams out there. Jumping up and down pointing and screaming at them is just drawing more attention.
Ever do an incomming port scan while surfing this site... you might change your attitude about the radar comment
Quote from: Localjoe on April 14, 2008, 11:59:06 PM
Ever do an incomming port scan while surfing this site... you might change your attitude about the radar comment
Why? Notice anything interesting?
Plenty!
Like who? Gimme a couple motivating details to help reinforce we're heading in some sort of positive direction? ;)
Quote from: konduct on April 15, 2008, 12:22:41 AM
Like who? Gimme a couple motivating details to help reinforce we're heading in some sort of positive direction? ;)
More like, "Who not?"
Yeah, you can see attacks and patterns with portscans and traceroutes, but let's not kid ourselves-- 100 percent of this logged online for all the world to see.
Damn the torpedoes! Full steam ahead!
KONDUCT I agree we don't need to play internet police In the context you outline, nothing good and much BS can come of it Ebay already has internet police its called feedback works great Its the ONLY reason there is an Ebay Chet PS don't let creeps keep you from sharing we need all the Ideas we can get these days