I came across this video and i thought it would be good to post it here for all to see.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/915226/free_electricity_from_thin_air/
thats awsome, great find!.
I thought so to but I don't think it can be really called free, that is ofcoarse it is getting the power from radio transmissions but was thinking the circutry may be usefull in earth battery designs. Maybe hook a wire from a steel probe in a tree the attana wire.
I read some of the comments that said that one person added a rather long antana wire to it and got 27+ volts. It didn't say what the amps were but I still think 27+ volts is still usable for charging batteries.
Forget it.
Not to use.this way.
Now Power behind it.
Pese
pese, one comment posted said they used the power to operate their R/C car. I am assuming the car is one of those small remote control type of cars. If they did use it as stated, then I have to say there is some power "behind it". The same with the video as it showed to recharge a cell phone. I am not saying it works as good as they say but I think it's worth checking out.
Quote from: nightlife on May 01, 2008, 05:51:33 AM
pese, one comment posted said they used the power to operate their R/C car. I am assuming the car is one of those small remote control type of cars. If they did use it as stated, then I have to say there is some power "behind it". The same with the video as it showed to recharge a cell phone. I am not saying it works as good as they say but I think it's worth checking out.
This way ?
NO.
I working over 50 years with this what you doing now.
you can enough find out over this in OU
or google out. You will find more, than anybody can explain you.
Pese
pese, don't get me wrong, this is not me doing this and i am assuming that if you have been working with this for the lenth of time you have stated, you must have been working with some sort of fox hole radio design and or at least that may have been your initial interest.
Have you ever tried to incorporate a earth power concept with it?
Would it not depend on what the thing was tuned to receive? The wire he used in the video was only 2 inches or so of magnetic wire. I do not know what radio frequency that would be. Surely it could be set up to work off some stray emissions that are unwanted other wise. Or even off something in a range of frequency from solar radiation. Any way it is a very small package few parts and easy to assemble for experimentation. It might even function to work off emf waste from running other appliances. As a way to conserve waste. Mix it in with a spark discharge gap on a coil that has fast response to collaps it's field through a load it may even make dirty ac.
this circuit, can take any frequencies (from 50/60kz line frequency
(you ca see this on oszilloscop if you connect 1 meter "arial" tothe input,
uf to VHF/UHF region of frequnciey by using 1N34 1N60 enz.
if this circuit is not "tnued" = spread-band, alltogether + static voltages, call alow
to read on an high impedance voltmeter voltages (even in hundreds volts).
I seen hundred diagrams, and proven (if i was child ,and my father examized and learned me)
If you connect an low imedanze analoge Voltmeter , or use only 1000 (100) ohm Load resitance
in parallel to you meter, you will see , that the reed voltages go low near ZERO !!
So only you have "absorbe" some mycrowats , with this system.
It is strong aenougt , to "tune" some frequency, amplify this, ande
hear "radio-nusic" by example.
If you wil use, to power an cristall-radio (1 k ohm Earphones must be driven) You need an
Local station in "near" .
If you will "ligt" an bulb, you must "sit" in front of an stron Medioum or Long-Wave station)
This work. I have done this over 50 years ago.
To drive an car , as TESLO and minimum 3 other people have done this
1930 to now(!) its need more knowledge, that you "trie" an i myself dont know.
Pese
If he's using a 2 inch dipole increase the gain with other 2 inch dipoles at the standing wave ratio for max reception /power [focus the energy like a magnifying glass] Chet PS Pese is this idea a waste of time[seriously]
anly lenghs from an antenna , do an resonance , and have an standing wave.
one road (antena) worke only (as an dipole , against this earth or ground
(event to the case form the receiver).
Eventually better ift this will be balanced out to an artifical dipole (with an
correction coil. In any way an 2 road dipole work better, an will uses from short-wave and
higher. ALL is correct this way.
BUT you can not "transfer" or "surge" more power that i expalain before.
You cant never drive only 1 HP Motor this way.
(And other ways, you will find here, if you give attention , but , to much people here
that "destroy" andwork "destructive" here, such way, that most can not see
and find "evenually" the true ways.
I am not interested to explore for myself or teach.you.
Lot of Links in this "field" you can find
yourself, or wast your time to "experimenting with antennas or dipoles.
You can learn this way an lot.
This ist true (in any way)
GP
GP thankyou Chet
I can clearly see that energy is coming from somewhere. But are you sure that it is actually coming from the environment ?, could it be energy that is coming from radio waves that are being emitted from radio stations ?.
This is not an attempt to debunk. Even if it is waves from radio stations it is energy that is otherwise being wasted if we don't make use of it, so in my eyes this is still free energy, which ever way you want to think of it.
Good finding ;).
[EDIT] I might even have a go at building a few of those circuits myself, and connect them in series. [/EDIT]
you can use the fully waves bands. That you will receive as "NOISE" . It must be
POWER in this , if you can convert ALL that comes from outsige and inside the earth.
Iven an lot highet frequenies over the Ghz band (up to light and also higher, bring ENERGY to
the earth, if you can collect an part of this and tarnsfer to energy, we donts need OIL longer
Pese
if something this simple can be used to charge up cell phones, then why don't cell phone manufacturers incorporate this technology into thir hand units and use the aerial on the phone to charge the battery with?
emagine how usefull this could become, as i've often been stuck with a flat battery and left my charger at home.
Quote from: mfred68 on May 01, 2008, 09:12:26 AM
if something this simple can be used to charge up cell phones, then why don't cell phone manufacturers incorporate this technology into thir hand units and use the aerial on the phone to charge the battery with?
emagine how usefull this could become, as i've often been stuck with a flat battery and left my charger at home.
Good idea... If there wasn't a danger of oil company officials holding guns to the bosses head :P
The circuit looks similar to a simple voltage doubler , so the power is probably pretty low
It does look lit it would be fun to play with though
Like expermenting with resonance.
What would happen of you put coils in series with the input caps?
it seems to me you would have a resonant voltage doubler .
What happens if you choose coils to tune it to the frequency of a nearby radio station?
WHat happens if you tune it to earth resonance frequencys ?
gary
he he
little kicks
maybe use some special antennas
like this
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US4622558&F=0&QPN=US4622558
or
http://www.unusualresearch.com/Sutton/sutton.htm
or
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT3721989
something else
http://amasci.com/hum/hum.html
project Sanguine/Seafarer antenna
I am wondering if more could be utilized by running them in series to get more voltage and then parallel to get more amperage?
I am also wondering if the above configuration could be done using this type of circuitry but using the earth as a power source.
There is a lot to be learned from this. One thing that we must keep in mind is all that electricity is, is just vibrations and metals absorb and hold vibrations longer.
One good test would be to put a antenna in between trees or attach it to branches in a tree. I have been told that the trees put off vibrations that would help intensify the results.
I have just recieved a reply on another thread that said this has already been discussed. Does anyone have a link to the thread they were talking about?
Quote from: nightlife on May 01, 2008, 06:18:30 PM
One good test would be to put a antenna in between trees or attach it to branches in a tree. I have been told that the trees put off vibrations that would help intensify the results.
kaboom!!
I think they sure do. That is the reason I for one want to stay away from those things , at least until I know how to be sure I am not going to be killed by them. ;D
No matter what thoseguys say, there is a lot of power out there. Trees are a way that power gets itself to the ground.
Your body's chemistry must operate within certain bands of frequency. If you get yourself outside the boundaries of that frequency, yergonna get hurt. or worse.
Nightlife, please be careful.
jeanna
Howdy,
You can get more current in the circuit if you connect the negative terminal to earth ground. This thing is a diode pump, if you give a source of electrons it will pump more. I accidentally built a semiconductor radio circuit when I left the ground off an Op Amp circuit. I picked up the local AM radio station. We need more neat little circuits like this to inspire people. Like Pese said, you are not going to get a significant amount of power out of it, but it makes people say "Hey, thats cool!" This would be great for beginners electronic classes to explain the concept of energy transmission, reception, and rectification.
I'm gonna build it anyway, off to Tanner's Electronics I go...
this subject/topic has already been posted before ;D
see http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3691
peace
Hello all
I have made this circuit and it works. I used an 8 ft piece of copper wire bonded to my metal garage roof. if I let the circuit sit not connected the caps charge to about 59 volts. but the voltage drops off, the longer the meter is connected to the circuit. i don't remember what the amps were but it was low. compaired to the voltage. also i am using my house wiring for the ground. i don't think i set my ground into the earth as far as i should have. so i used the house's wiring.
after testing to see if i can charge a AA battery using this circuit. i plan on using copper and zinc rods as my next test.
Pardon, that?s good to hear. Good job.
How long did it take to accumulate that voltage you reported?
I would also like to know what the amps were.
I would also like to find out what could be achieved by connecting more of these circuits in series as well as parallel.
Thank you for posting what you have accomplished and I for one can?t wait to read more about your findings.
Quote from: nightlife on May 07, 2008, 12:48:20 AM
How long did it take to accumulate that voltage you reported?
I would also like to know what the amps were.
I would also like to find out what could be achieved by connecting more of these circuits in series as well as parallel.
I tested it today and for the circuit to charge to over 30 volts took about 22 minutes.
the amps were about .09 or .08 at that voltage
Also i tried to wire 2 circuits in series and in parallel, no luck their i don't think it can be done with the ones i have. 1 of them does not have the same componets as the drawing.
also i was not able to charge a AA battery even tho i had the circuit stable at 2.56 volts. but i didn't have the amp output at that voltage. it was left charging for about 20 hours.
so all i can say is this circuit will work great for a crystal radio.
Pardon, I remember reading about a old set up that charged a 12 volt battery. It used a automotive coil that collected the voltage and after it reached a certain voltage, it created a spark that was then used to charge the battery. I will try to find it again and post it. This may be a way to make what you have work for charging battery's.
Quote from: nightlife on May 08, 2008, 10:22:14 AM
Pardon, I remember reading about a old set up that charged a 12 volt battery. It used a automotive coil that collected the voltage and after it reached a certain voltage, it created a spark that was then used to charge the battery. I will try to find it again and post it. This may be a way to make what you have work for charging battery's.
Nitelife
is this what you were thinking of ?
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/reac.htm
gary
I found one of the articles I read. It can be viewed by using the following link.
http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/radiant_energy_diatribe.htm
resonanceman, sorry, I didn't see your post untill after I posted but yes, that is the same thing. What is your opinion of this?
I am wondering what would happen if we used this topics crystal radio circuitry in place of the long wire.
i have replaced the long wire with a short 8 to 10 feet piece of wire. but that wire is connected to my metal roof.
thanks for the great information (links) i had read about the car's coil setup but it didn't have the schematic to go the the description.
what i would like to do is replace the antenna (long wire) with a stubblefield coil / earth battery. but to do that the circuit would needs to be changed. since the circuit will not work with a AA battery. if I can make the right changes we may be on to something.
this weekend i will pick up a auto coil and try to make a new circuit. I think i only need the coil but i will have to check my parts just to make sure.
Quote from: nightlife on May 08, 2008, 11:02:38 AM
I found one of the articles I read. It can be viewed by using the following link.
http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/radiant_energy_diatribe.htm
does this really work ?. if you had say 4 to 8 battries would it still charge?.would it be enough to say run Mr Qs wheel ?.
Pardon, good luck and thanks for keeping us posted.
b0rg13, I personaly have never built one to see if it does and or does not work but I thought it would be a good think to bring back up so that we may be able to utilize it in some way with others that we have talked about.
I also found this following info about the coil and spark plug set up.
Let's start this project by choosing a good marine battery. Marine batteries will typically hold a charge longer than regular car batteries. Regular car batteries can loose a charge just sitting around at a rate of almost 2 amps a day? This means precious backup power will be literally lost into thin air! Our objective in this situation is to store as much emergency backup power in reserve as possible, for the longest period of time possible.
Generally speaking, batteries that are rated in "reserve minutes" will typically outlast batteries that are rated in "crank amps."
Next you will need a working spark plug. I prefer the V groove type, but any old spark plug will work just fine. Start by hooking up the spark plug tip to the end of your antenna wire (antenna wire described later) and then run the ground end of the spark plug (where the threads are) into the top cap of a 12-volt automotive coil. Any old salvaged working coil will do. (Of course, except for the one your wife currently uses in her car.)
It is important to choose only insulated antenna wire for this project, as this will work best. The wire should be completely insulated from end to end with no breaks or soldered connections anywhere in-between. It doesn't seem to make any difference whether you lay it out in a straight line, is a looped antenna configuration, or if it weaves back and forth. Length is the key, not its footprint size.
Old discarded phone line, old cable TV coax, practically any wire that is insulated and long will provide satisfactory results provided that you don't tear the neighbor's cable TV wire out of his lawn, you shouldn't have any problems using any type of insulated wire for this project.
To connect the coil to the battery, we will use the bottom connector of the automotive coil that is normally connected to the points in your car. This will now be connected to the positive side of your emergency battery. The negative post of the battery is simply hooked up to a good earth ground.
You can make this work in field, wilderness or portable radio operations by driving a temporary ground rod into the earth and then connect the ground directly to the negative post on your battery.
Next we install a 1 to 3 KV capacitor. The capacitor value will work best if it is around a few picofared like those typically found in the horizontal section of a television chassis. The capacitor is then connected from ground back to the wire where the top of the spark plug is connected to the antenna.
Nothing should be touching ground except the ground post of the battery. Approx. 200 feet of insulated wire will completely charge a 12 volt deep cycle every 2 or 3 days! A thousand feet of wire will do it a lot quicker but the voltages will approach lethal levels.
This works as a charging system because the long antenna wire acts like a capacitor building an electric charge on the antenna wire. When a few thousand volts are reached, it will be discharge by "sparking" across the spark plug. The spark plug then delivers the electric charge to the coil, which in turn "down-converts" it to a few hundred volts. The electricity is then injected into the battery from the coil. The coil works by "pulsing" the charge into the battery at regular discharge intervals.
The weather controls how much static electricity is in the air at any given time during the course of the day or night. This electricity is then made available for charging our battery.
The real advantage of this particular charging system during an emergency situation is that the worst the weather gets, the more electricity you will have at your disposal for charging your battery.
When conditions such as wind and super cold air are frequently persistent, you will be able to weld the fillings in your teeth together! ...Be careful!
The higher you get the insulated wire of the ground, the better it will work in capturing DC current from the air for this highly effective, but low cost emergency battery charging system.
http://www.eham.net/articles/9272
Some info about static electricity that may interest you can be found using the following link.
http://www.amasci.com/emotor/stmiscon.html
I picked up a car coil and connected the circuit up. but i never saw the spark plug fire up not even once. either it was the wrong day for testing or the roof just will not create the voltage required to jump the spark gap. i think it's the roof.
the APM circuit is still working fine it was tested at 56 volts before i removed and replaced it with the 12 volt car coil circuit.
I just don't know where I could string up a couple hundred feet of wire for the new circuit.
Pardon, did you try to hook it up like this following picture shows.
Quote from: Pardon on May 13, 2008, 12:20:13 AM
I picked up a car coil and connected the circuit up. but i never saw the spark plug fire up not even once. either it was the wrong day for testing or the roof just will not create the voltage required to jump the spark gap. i think it's the roof.
the APM circuit is still working fine it was tested at 56 volts before i removed and replaced it with the 12 volt car coil circuit.
I just don't know where I could string up a couple hundred feet of wire for the new circuit.
from what i understand the wire needs to be coated in some kind of plastic ?, to create the static charge that builds up with a 4mph wind or more, im guessing your roof is not plastic coated ?, and you roof might be earthed as well so it wont build up a charge.
It also said it needs to be 200+ feet long and I am assuming it would have to be strung out and not coiled.
I am wondering if the APM he has built can take the place of the wire like I have it pictured in my previous posting.
I came across this article when reading some other postings and I thought I would post it here. It may have some things in it that can help.
Concept of New Photoelectromotive Force Technology
Electromagnetic Radiation Receiver
The electromagnetic radiation receiver operates by a similar mechanism to the solar panel. In the solar panel, it has been used all over the world as one energy source, and the mechanism is evidence. The one using a photoelectric effect. Working to which the electron the metal and in the semiconductor is liberated by optical energy and an electromagnetic radiation is called a photoelectric effect.
There are three different phenomena in a photoelectric effect. The photoelectromotive force to an optical discharge and the photoconduction deflecting. Among these, the most important one is a photovoltaic effect. The photoelectromotive force cell is the one that the diode structure of solid-state was built into all aspects on the silicon wafer. The layer on the surface is a structure transparent as light reaches a sandwich silicon joint part very thinly. The photon (photon) is absorbed in the joint part, and the
electron in the atomic uniting part is pulled out. As a result, the free charge of the pair of electron-hole is invented. This free charge moves to both sides in the joint part, improves the charge density, and raises the voltage of the joint part.
The photovoltaic effect completely needs neither the voltage nor the current from the outside compared with the other two effects, and converts the energy of light directly into the electric power. The most general one of the photovoltaic effect is a solar cell. On the other hand, if light mutually hits two insulated silicon wafers, the area where the electron is on the other hand excessive the electron the area insufficient is invented. Differing shape
basically invents the electron as for my electromagnetic radiation receiver by the same reason as the solar cell.
The stem.
If a basic function and the mechanism of the solar panel can be understood, it is easy to understand working of the electromagnetic radiation receiver. However, a point which is greatly different from that of solar is 24 day hours, and the points with sensitivity in which the electromagnetic radiation spectrum from a wide area to the area of infrared rays ,that is, from ultraviolet rays which pours down over the earth the set of the sun later is received. Some 1000 stars which twinkle to night sky.
The all poured and earth Takashi had poured electromagnetic energy of the infrared rays area from ultraviolet rays for the past several billion years. Therefore, the electromagnetic radiation receiver has the function to invent the electron at nighttime. I had searching researched the method of collecting the energy of the electron from a wide area of the electromagnetic radiation spectrum for the past 22 years. The result is a solar energy system of a new type of electromagnetic radiation receiver. The basic mineral used in the electromagnetic radiation receiver behaves as if the charge which moves in the electrical conduction, and plays the role to produce the cloud of a free electron. The energy barrier on the surface confines the electron in the
electromagnetic radiation receiver. However, when the speed toward energy or outside of the electron increases enough, the electron is discharged into the space. This electron calls necessary amount of energy for the space to discharge a work function, and is expressed by the following expression.
E=W
The electron is not discharged into the space, and at largeness, discharged if the energy of Hica (photon) is smaller than that of this value. The energy of the electron at this time uses the expression in Einstein's photoelectric effect.
E=hv=W+1/2mW
It is shown. The amount whose energy of the photon is larger than that of E=W becomes kinetic energy (1/2mW) of the electron. The photon is given all energy and disappears. h is a constant which is basic of a physical law (quantum mechanics).
No basic idea of my electromagnetic radiation receiver (ERR) is new. Nicola Tesla which invents the exchange system calls the free energy receiver in 1901, a similar technology is developed, and the patent is obtained. It has agreed exactly in the point to use the photoelectromotive force though the invention of Tesla is greatly different from today's. The most remarkable difference is a point that today's solar panel is composed of the base of the crystal silicon: Amorphous is used very recently. However, it is thought the free energy receiver that Tesla invented to was the one that the plate of a thin metal was coated with a transparent insulation thing, and spreading today's plastic.
The higher, the more efficiency improves when the panel is put up in the air as well as the antenna. It is connected wires from a part of the panel to a part of the capacitor, and other terminals of the capacitor are grounded. Energy from the sun is charged to the capacitor. The load is connected from the capacitor through the switch circuit, and an electric output is obtained as the capacitor repeats the electrical charge and discharge at a constant cycle. The output obtained by of course the area of the insulation panel large is large.
Tesla tries the explanation how this method to obtain energy is easy. The device of Tesla is more than the solar panel. The reason for it is that energy can be taken out at nighttime when the sun hid the face. The free energy receiver of Tesla is obtaining the patent as "Device using the radiation" in 1901. It is possible to touch about other radiations 1 like not only solar energy but also cosmic rays in that. It is described that the device can actually take out energy by cosmic rays even at nighttime. Tesla touches a huge storing warehouse of negative electricity of the earth, too.
Is an electromagnetic radiation harmful?
It is harmless at all. There is a thing to sometimes wake up people's uneasiness due to the lack of Shitataca to the radiation. Then, the radiation is indicated.
The radiation appears while mediating the interaction between the particle and wave motion. (That is, heat is conducted by the discharge of energy, the spread, absorption, and the radiation. )The radiation changes shape, and carries out various functions in that.
The radiation is discharged from the material, and absorbed to the material. As for the earth, had been done for the past several billion years by the radiation from the sun. Therefore, the skin gets burnt when is under sunshiny for a long time. Everyone is sure to have the experience of sun burning through life once and twice. Still, the radiation has poured down for 24 hours a day. On the other hand, to avoid danger and to adapt oneself, the human race has evolved. Not only the wave of the radiation but also we get corpuscle rain done. However, it is quite safe except the thing that the meteor falls to the head. However, the radiation from the high-voltage line is very dangerous
as cancer and other sicknesses are caused. Model, and it is not a radiation from the sky which causes what harm. It is a radiation to be killing man that man produced.
I think that it was able to understand the basis of the radiation. Then, working of the electromagnetic radiation receiver is described. First of all, let's explain from the word receiver. I want to emphasize the thing like the one receiving it to the end the receiver and no sent one, etc. The solar panel receives the light of the frequency of the visible region, and produces electricity. The energy of the frequency from the brushwood outside line on the both sides to the area of infrared rays is received if not only the area of visible light but also it says in the spectrum and electricity is produced
though the electromagnetic radiation receiver works basically by the same concept as it. It is time when makes to a high voltage with a transformer and uses it in case of there is danger. It makes to high voltage and the high frequency with the transformer and electricity is transmitted to customer's place, and the electric power company drops to the low pressure of 220V and, then, is using it. A high frequency and a high voltage are harmful though 220V is not too dangerous. If an easy test is done, it is understood soon whether a harmful radiation has gone out of the high-tension wire of the electrical machinery and apparatus and the ceiling in your house and office.
In the above-mentioned thing, I think that it canceled the fog of uneasiness of the electromagnetic radiation receiver.
mmmhhhh
let see
let see
This brings memories of me building my first crystal set many, many years ago, I taped the wire to the ceiling! :D
Interesting idea.
Would be cool to power gadgets and stuff with it. like my ipod ;)
Not so sure we could power the world with it. But there is always hope.
Pretty interesting stuff! I watched a mini doc and it was this ham radio guy that had large antenna's that he had to ground out because the voltage he was gathering with his antenna would fry his radio components.. I wonder if getting an antenna high up in the air then hooking it up to a circuit like this would yeild more?
What if you could hook it up to your home wiring (copper ground wire) to turn all the grounds in the house into an antenna?
I love trying out little things like this.. so off I go to put together the circuit! I think I have everything here anyway.. why not!
Quote from: nightlife on May 13, 2008, 01:04:31 AM
Pardon, did you try to hook it up like this following picture shows.
yes i did try that also. and i tested a voltage of only 2.3 vdc at the car coil then added a cap to catch a higher voltage and it never went over 2.3 volts no matter how i had the circuits connected i could not even charge a AA battery.
i tested my APM circuit at a record of 157 VAC and still no amp's present
and i still can't do a darn thing with it. bummer :(