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Title: Microwave Oven Hydrogen Production
Post by: sparks on May 12, 2008, 05:10:11 PM
    I was studying MRI machines and how they work.  I was wondering  if a strong diamagnetic field was used to alter the magnetic resonance of say a saltwater solution and then smack it with microwaves what would happen.  I wonder if this could cause disassoctian of the water molecule and produce hydrogen gas.
Title: Re: Microwave Oven Hydrogen Production
Post by: Haliburton on May 12, 2008, 05:34:10 PM
i brought up this question in this forum long ago.  nobody cared  :(
Title: Re: Microwave Oven Hydrogen Production
Post by: comp-tech on May 12, 2008, 05:34:32 PM
Hi Sparks,

I watched this guy's experiment with grapes to create a plasma in the microwave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCNNqgKqnaQ

So, I tried it myself. It works, but it seems to work only with that particular shape of the object. If I did not cut the grape the same way it did not work. So, it looks like a "dipole shape" plays some kind of a role there. I was going to try it with the salt water too but I did not yet. It is certainly interesting and I believe that the disassociation of water takes place there.
Title: Re: Microwave Oven Hydrogen Production
Post by: Goat on May 12, 2008, 07:25:19 PM
@ Sparks

I was wondering one day a while back, if you had a Bingo fuel type setup in a microwave with the carbon rods acting as antenna's to make the reaction rather than using a welding machine.  The old microwaves didn't have a turntable in them and worked fine, albeit a little uneven heat, and there's also microwaves with a hole on top for a thermometer that could be used for the discharge tube (I think).

Anyway, just throwing the idea out there in case I get hit by the bus of life!  You're thread seemed like a good place to it :)

Regards,
Paul
Title: Re: Microwave Oven Hydrogen Production
Post by: sparks on May 12, 2008, 09:03:52 PM
   Thanks guys for the interest.   I saw a utube demonstration of rf catalyzing water disassociation.  Since then it has been removed from utube because of some bullshit about violation of terms.  Probably because the person who was reporting this phenomenon owns his own radio station.   Next thing this poor man will have happen to him is that the fcc will be up his butt trying to pull his license.   I suggest that it is too late.  Keep up the work guys. 
   If you put a conductor in there the microwaves will produce voltage gain like you wouldn't believe.  I am sure all of us has seen the lightning bolts from inadvertently putting a metal in a microwave.  Overunity or just conversion of mass to energy?  You don't need to split the atom just expose the atom to a little rf and e=MC2 goes to work.
Title: Re: Microwave Oven Hydrogen Production
Post by: Pirate88179 on May 13, 2008, 11:55:20 PM
@ Sparks:

Isn't that similar to what that Dr. is doing in that video that's been all over the news and youtube?  (can't remember his name)  He was looking for, and supposedly found, a cancer cure but also found that rf will split water in to its components fast enough to keep a flame burning in a tube of salt water.  Well, in one of the videos he mention high freq. rf and do not microwaves fit into this category?  I have often wondered about this while boiling water for coffee.  Those molecules are pretty excited and may just need a push, or pull, from something to separate.  Interesting topic.

Bill
Title: Re: Microwave Oven Hydrogen Production
Post by: sparks on May 14, 2008, 12:05:55 AM
  Exactly what I was looking for Pirate.  The rf excitation of a saltwater solution to elicit hydrogen is exactly what the doctor ordered for storage of electrical energy.  I suggest that the Japeneese are already on to it.  (why else are they manufacturing fuel cells that burn hydrogen.)  Come on Scientists
get your ass in gear.  You take a flyback out of a tv.  Wrap a high tension wire from the flyback output around a vial or tube filled with saltwater.  I betya dimes to dollars that water starts bubbling hydrogen.
  The flyback is an overunity device itself and now with the hydrogen you get to store the free energy.
Hell if you feel you need to keep Tesla out of the equation hook the damn oscillator to a solar cell or a windturbine or whatever intermittent energy conversion device you got going.  Anybody that doesn't see the value of what was discovered in Florida should go back 10spaces do not pass go do not collect $200.00 dollars.