no other fuel at all
ive been doing alot of searching and there seems to be alot of theories and ideas but all of the practical stuff that ive seen people have ACTUALLY DONE seems to only be boosters which you use along with regular gas
i havent seen any solid info on how to actually make a car run off of PURE hho, no gas at all
has anyone here actually done it and been forthcoming with the information?
Hi Intangion welcume to OU
It's Work in Progress
here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,518.0.html (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,518.0.html)
and here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3079.0.html (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3079.0.html)
This man Stanley Meyer did it (but did not want us to know how)
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=mSDtCkLxQd8&feature=related (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=mSDtCkLxQd8&feature=related)
pc
Don't know if anyone has looked into this, but found it interesting. This device is used in as an aerator for fishing boats to keep fish alive. Apparently it is made of a screen type mesh made from titanium plated with iridium. Supposedly draws .3 amps at 12 volts. Don't know anything else about it other than it seems to create chlorine over time in the water.
http://keepfishalive.com/index.php
Brad
That's what I'm after. This is the only video I've seen but haven't found much other info about a HHO only application. It's actually how I found this website! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVlllvdmW2U
I've made a couple of HHO cells but don't think the amout of hydrogen I've been able to produce so far is enough to run an engine alone.
Dave
i am just curious.... where did this dune buggy go??
where are the people who worked with stan?
@All
You can start by doubling your mileage with the right booster,iam looking in to it here http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3549.msg101271/topicseen.html#msg101271 (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3549.msg101271/topicseen.html#msg101271)
Its going to take time to develop 100% system for hydrogen in cars that FREE
Work in Progress
pc
Even if no-one has been able to actually run an engine off of HHO, has anyone build or is running a system that even increases mileage yet? If the technology isn't overunity, then any energy release by the water must be offset by added strain on the alternator and hence engine. If it is more-out-than-in then please share info.
Quote from: daveedoo on May 31, 2008, 01:10:44 PM
That's what I'm after. This is the only video I've seen but haven't found much other info about a HHO only application. It's actually how I found this website! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVlllvdmW2U
I've made a couple of HHO cells but don't think the amout of hydrogen I've been able to produce so far is enough to run an engine alone.
Dave
what is this system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVlllvdmW2U
Why does it look different?
is it like the the one on this site, but still differences:
http://gethydropower.com/products.html
anyway...
p
Quote from: Onevoice on May 31, 2008, 02:59:20 PM
Even if no-one has been able to actually run an engine off of HHO, has anyone build or is running a system that even increases mileage yet? If the technology isn't overunity, then any energy release by the water must be offset by added strain on the alternator and hence engine. If it is more-out-than-in then please share info.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkmgPZgAvPU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkmgPZgAvPU)
And
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAVbHZkWtNo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAVbHZkWtNo&feature=related)
pc
Daniel Dingle did so more than 30 years ago. When he took his invention to the filipino government then, he was told that loan agreements that the Phillipines had procured via the International Monetary Fund (IMF) stipulated that no technology that would threaten the oil cartels could be developed or exported. So a car running purely on water has definitely been done. Here is a new link (to me) I just googled - it would appear he has got tired of waiting and is collaborating with others to some extent:
http://www.dinglefoundation.com/ (http://www.dinglefoundation.com/)
As for Stanley Meyers buggy, though it ran on water, I read somewhere that it probably wasn't your typical HHO setup, more a plasma sparkplug sort of thing.
Which brings to mind another american inventor engineer whose name I can't remember. Quite a long time ago, he patented a sparkplug/injector that used just water, but when he tried to have it developed, he quickly realised it wasn't going to happen. He had to contend with being 'allowed' to drive his water-only car right up until he died of natural causes - it's on Youtube somewhere.
So, quite a few water-only conversions have been done...
Quote from: Sprocket on June 01, 2008, 10:58:43 AM
Daniel Dingle did so more than 30 years ago. When he took his invention to the filipino government then, he was told that loan agreements that the Phillipines had procured via the International Monetary Fund (IMF) stipulated that no technology that would threaten the oil cartels could be developed or exported. So a car running purely on water has definitely been done. Here is a new link (to me) I just googled - it would appear he has got tired of waiting and is collaborating with others to some extent:
http://www.dinglefoundation.com/ (http://www.dinglefoundation.com/)
As for Stanley Meyers buggy, though it ran on water, I read somewhere that it probably wasn't your typical HHO setup, more a plasma sparkplug sort of thing.
Which brings to mind another american inventor engineer whose name I can't remember. Quite a long time ago, he patented a sparkplug/injector that used just water, but when he tried to have it developed, he quickly realised it wasn't going to happen. He had to contend with being 'allowed' to drive his water-only car right up until he died of natural causes - it's on Youtube somewhere.
So, quite a few water-only conversions have been done...
thanks for the links.
none of the contact links on dinglefoundation.com work. I wonder if this guy is just snake oil?
Yes, Mr. Meyer's system looked like some sort of injectoion system.
I guess my question is: Where did the the buggy go? Where did that assistant, the one in his buggy video, go? What was that guy's name?
Stanley Meyer died, but did his work disintegrate?
Paul
Quote from: 22350 on June 01, 2008, 02:41:54 PM
thanks for the links.
none of the contact links on dinglefoundation.com work. I wonder if this guy is just snake oil?
Yes, Mr. Meyer's system looked like some sort of injectoion system.
I guess my question is: Where did the the buggy go? Where did that assistant, the one in his buggy video, go? What was that guy's name?
Stanley Meyer died, but did his work disintegrate?
Paul
I posted the link more for the inbedded video, didn't check any of the links. I think there's little doubt that DD is the real-deal.
Stan Meyers buggy and everything else of value were proported to have been spirited off by unknown individuals - just as happened with Tesla! As for the assistant, don't know but maybe it was his brother - he moved to Canada and has set up a company called Xogen which is based on Stans work...
You just gotta keep on messin around with it and see what works best. I think distilled water definitely helps produce more hydrogen at lower amps and temperature. Too much baking soda doesn't help. Like a teaspoon per liter? Right now I have three stainless steel pipes in four inch i/d pvc. The pipes are four and a half inches tall. One is 3/4" connected to the negative of a 12v battery. A 1" pipe as a neutral, and 1 1/2" pipe connected to the positive terminal. Kinda like the Joe Cell. This or next week I'll be starting over with a plastic box for easier access. I'm going to try plates instead of pipes, and mess around with the amount of plates used, the spacing between them, the amount of neutrals, negatives, positives, voltages(120volts a/c drew more than 15 amps, I tried this weekend) And go from there.
Quote from: Sprocket on June 01, 2008, 09:16:03 PM
I posted the link more for the inbedded video, didn't check any of the links. I think there's little doubt that DD is the real-deal.
Stan Meyers buggy and everything else of value were proported to have been spirited off by unknown individuals - just as happened with Tesla! As for the assistant, don't know but maybe it was his brother - he moved to Canada and has set up a company called Xogen which is based on Stans work...
Wow, very interesting.
Seems strange that no one could shoe horn this technology out of dingle in all of these years.
When you look at the video of dingle's unit, he mentions something strange.
There are two tubes sticking out of the top of the box. He mentions hydrogen, when pointing at one and oxygen, when pointing at the other.
I understand, and correct me if I am wrong, but you get a much more volatile explosion, when mixing the two gases.
The set ups I see here put out a single gas, correct?
I wonder where he is now. Can't find anything on the internet and his domain leads back to a technical contact in Europe.
p
Let's go to the Phillipines, find Dingeldor and tell him he might as well just give away his findings and save all humanity. :D
if it does work, that's a big secret to keep for all of that time.
Quote from: 22350 on June 01, 2008, 11:02:42 PM
Wow, very interesting.
Seems strange that no one could shoe horn this technology out of dingle in all of these years.
When you look at the video of dingle's unit, he mentions something strange.
There are two tubes sticking out of the top of the box. He mentions hydrogen, when pointing at one and oxygen, when pointing at the other.
I understand, and correct me if I am wrong, but you get a much more volatile explosion, when mixing the two gases.
The set ups I see here put out a single gas, correct?
I wonder where he is now. Can't find anything on the internet and his domain leads back to a technical contact in Europe.
p
DD seemed to understand the predictament his government faced, and from what I have seen/read, there was a genuine empathy there - they appeared to be as dismayed with the situation as he was, and there seems to have been no threats made towards him from his 'own people'. I have no doubt whatever that every other country that has borrowed money from these people have been subject to similar conditions - and practically every country is on that list! If you want to find out what the 'real' situation is, read "
Confessions Of An Economic Hitman" - you will then begin to appreciate just how big the problems we face are, all deliberately instigated by a tiny minority for enormous profits :(
The hydrogen/oxygen combo - hydroxy (HHO) - is actually greatly preferred as there is
much more energy released, than hydrogen on it's own, and 'mixing' the two will just give you water, so quite safe.
Here's the video to Dingel's dilema. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVhXrvCCILw
RP 08
^^ we have reasons to believe that Dingel have been "paid" to keep quiet.
deos anyone know where dingle is from...like what part of the philipenes? i might go there in december or early next spring... but ill be hittin it to a spot thats real remote, but id stop by manila for sure to holler at dude, plus id have my girls mom to translate! that whould be tight