new to the forum and posted the orignal on the wrong part of the forum, so here it goes again:
I have successfully demonstrated harnessing natural energy via magnets to do work...so now i know that it is indeed possible to achieve perpetual motion via magnetic propulsion...i have overcome the sticky point..with no outside electrical input.
it is so simple, i now really do understand that this technology is repressed....AND NOT IMPOSSIBLE.
i think the main downfall of alot of inventors is not working 'hands-on'...simply theorizing to much...or trying to avoid certain things, that dont neccesarily have to be avoided.
the way i achieve locomotion is nothing like other theories i have seen...but i will say this: the answer is right in front of you, and you do it everyday.
BTW...it only took me 3 days to achieve this ...i really dont know why i even tried to do it, i just woke up one day and started to tinker around..did some research on the net and realized what i had done.
it is so ridicoulusly simple.
want to know how? research Howard Johnson and the toy he let his son play with...
Hello,
This is my first post on this forum, I am more like a reader or listener..
I am currently building a machine that is based on Howard Jonhsons work!
In the next days I'd have the plans ready on Din-A2 Format, if anyone's interested?
Drop me a mail as I'm not always reading here.. I may publish my work..
And you are right what you said about people theorizing to much..
Theres a book called "Noiselevel" .. worth a read.
Greetings,
Snippy
snip.....
noiselevel sounds interesting
whats it about?
bought/downloaded or what?
Quote from: jikwan on May 29, 2008, 05:01:10 PM
snip.....
noiselevel sounds interesting
whats it about?
bought/downloaded or what?
It's an old (1952) "science fiction" book.. I found it in library !
small passage of the book:
It is about a guy who talks to scientists in the pentagon.. he shows them a video of some red haired geeky dude who has an anti-gravity device around his body.. and takes off, spins some rounds in the air, and then crashes.. dead. The scientists at the pentagon where shocked and asked the men who shown them the video how this guy has created this anti-gravity device. "He died before he could tell us.. This guy has no grade.. no field experience.. he is just a normal person.. HE alone created this device.. if he can do it, you can do it to!" He then gives the scientists the mission to recreated this device.. They even got access to this geeks library and so on.. they dont seem to find any notes to give them ideas how the device works.. just a lot of books.. even too many for this guy to read.. no notes.. just basic physics, biology, ... books!
They were thinking and thinking .. they even went fishing to chill out and breath some air.. Then suddenly one of the scientists gets an idea while he sees the water waves created by the fishing rod.. 1 month later they all meet again in the pentagon with the man who gave them the job.. they shown him a HUGE machine.. 7 tons in weight.. they turned it on and it was building up an anti-gravity field.. it lifted for about 30 cm.. The man was shocked.. he then told the scientists to follow him to the lecture room.. he then opens a curtain and guess who was standing behind it ? the red haired geek! The scientists couldnt believe what they were seeing.. "Isnt he dead?" "No , he is just an actor, the film I shown you guys is faked, not real.. Made up to remove the noise level in front of you so I got you scientists thinking and working on something."
Well yea.. that about it.. small story off the book.. a great read.. makes me think of all the youtube videos somehow.. :P
REMOVE THE NOISE LEVEL!
btw, sorry for my bad english..
Hey SINEWAVE,
Nice to hear you have an answer. This being an open source forum, I'd like to ask what your intentions are????
Secrets abound but answers don't. If you think you have something, don't be afraid to post and for God's sake don't tease. We've had our share. Look at all who have preceeded your thought. If in fact they have something, they're gone. Want a patent? Be illusive and throw breadcrumbs but all it will ever get you is disdain. Open it up to those who will make it work and you WILL get the credit.
We all have heros in FE and they don't hide behind criptic messages. Some have gone the way of Stan Meyers, Tesla, ETC... Be different.., show and tell.
Carl
yes snip
its a must for all us ou fanatics to get us motivated
$135 a barrel at the moment
bet your ass itll be $200 very soon
cannot imagine my redneck english library stocking it though
Hi, dont wish to sound ignorant but who is howard johnson?.
Chad.
lol found him, read about his work before but it was a while ago.
Chad.
Quote from: SINEWAVE on May 29, 2008, 02:02:48 PM
new to the forum and posted the orignal on the wrong part of the forum, so here it goes again:
I have successfully demonstrated harnessing natural energy via magnets to do work...so now i know that it is indeed possible to achieve perpetual motion via magnetic propulsion...i have overcome the sticky point..with no outside electrical input.
it is so simple, i now really do understand that this technology is repressed....AND NOT IMPOSSIBLE.
i think the main downfall of alot of inventors is not working 'hands-on'...simply theorizing to much...or trying to avoid certain things, that dont neccesarily have to be avoided.
the way i achieve locomotion is nothing like other theories i have seen...but i will say this: the answer is right in front of you, and you do it everyday.
BTW...it only took me 3 days to achieve this ...i really dont know why i even tried to do it, i just woke up one day and started to tinker around..did some research on the net and realized what i had done.
it is so ridicoulusly simple.
want to know how? research Howard Johnson and the toy he let his son play with...
Have you got a working device ?... If so, can you show it to us PLEEEEEZZZZZE ;D
OOPS !, I almost forgot... Welcome to the forum ;).
if atleast 25 people take a picture of their magnets with their usernames written on a piece of paper in the same picture...i will show a short example
the user "one" also has the same answer, go check it out in 'half baked ideas', although his statements are also not exacting...some of you may be able to deduce a visualization if you have truly purchased and used magnetic materials of the proper geometry.
im not into giving answers freely to those who do not take the initiative to try on their own.
show me proff of how serious some of you are...
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snippy, check out the toy car...but as for his main work...i havent tried making his machine yet, and it actually conflicts with my mechanism.
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one more hint : it bears resemblence to a SMOT....only a resemblence the operational functions are not the same as a SMOT, but the layout is the same.
there is no gravity drop to return the motive obect.
well, while i dont aprove -at all :P- the tease i can't deny i share your feelings about don't share with those who don't try, SO! allow me to participate, here are my little and furious beasts!
now just waiting for 24 more serious ;D fellows
saludos!
p.d.
don't you tell me is a kind of "attraction repelling cross" smot because i'll kill my self right freaking now :D
you are a good man...24 more to go
To be honest I don't have any experience in this area nor do I have a bunch of magnets laying around. The other day I was thinking of buying geomags to start doing some experiments in this area. Unlike pure gravity, there's no valuable software to experiment with besides making your own stuff. So yes you're only partially right. But on the other hand people here would care less about secrets. All they want are ideas, and they WILL build it. The road you've chosen will just prelong that.
what are you in 5th grade. Instead of wasting time getting people posting magnets how about you just post some answers to the worlds energy crisis. Are you like the riddler or something? When people play around like that it just leeds to dead ends and false hopes. What are you gonna do next make us all do headstands with one arm? >:(
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Howard_Johnson_Motor/1979Paper/
Dissapointing, another tease why would you get 25 ppl to take photos of there magnets i have magnets but cant upload files, it may be ages before that happens and there are ppl hanging to get into it, you know there is more than 25 of us that would like to know and that will make replications, just show us it, not a little bit all of it, if you are not open sorcing it then i dont want to know you.
Oh and stefan may i humally request of you that such teasing should be against forum rules, if one keeps it to themself then we are none the wiser but if one states in this forum that he or she has an invention that is definatly with out a doubt OU with not even a video or any real insight then keep it out of here, this is ment to be an open sorce forum after all.
negative comments or implications do not phase me...
broli - lack of magnets shows your lack of dedication...
Haliburton - the name of the most corrupt company in the world at the moment...
seekingknowledge - seek an internet cafe...
you three are the only thing preventing progress...
simply post pictures of your magnets with username written down...its not hard to do, a 5th grader can do it.
my request for pics is so i can determine what materials you all are using.
I won't waste my time on digging threads just like this one with some guy holding the secret to everything but sharing it after some goal is met, but rest assured there are plenty, guess what none brought anything. People like you and skeptics are exactly the reason why free energy rising so slow....YOU WAIST OUR TIME. So or spit it out or just go swallow some magnets.
Quote from: Haliburton on May 30, 2008, 03:01:32 AM
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Howard_Johnson_Motor/1979Paper/
You need to study the toy he let his son play with, not the machine in the above post.
Sinewave
I heard about HJ toy long time ago from a guy called Mikell. So whats up. I don't know why you can post a video and prove it and hide your clues. I could make a long list of people who come and go and just hold the carrot. This is a open for forum and whats your point. Yes I do have any size of magnets you name it and I have it. Whats the picture going to do!
wayne
:-\
I just found this it may help defeat the riddler ::)
The first item consists of more than a dozen foil-wrapped magnets assembled to form a broad arc. Each magnet is extended upward slightly at each end to form a low U-shape, the better to concentrate magnetic fields where they are needed. The overall curvature of the mass of magnets apparently has no particular significance except to show that the distance between these stator magnets and the moving vehicle is not critical. A transparent plastic sheet atop this magnet assembly supports a length of plastic model railroad track. The vehicle, basically a model railroad flatcar, supports a foil-wrapped pair of curved magnets, plus some sort of weight, in some cases merely a rock. The weight is needed to keep the vehicle down on the track, against the powerful magnetic forces that would otherwise push it askew. That 'is all there is to the construction of this representation of a "linear motor."
I was prepared to develop eye strain in an effort to detect some sort of motion in the vehicle. I need not have been concerned. The moment the inventor let go of the vehicle be carefully placed at one end of the track, it accelerated and literally zipped from one end to the other and flew onto the floor! Wow!
I tried the experiment myself, and could feel the powerful magnetic forces at work as I placed the vehicle on the track. I gently eased the vehicle to the critical starting point, taking great care not to exert any kind of forward push, even inadvertently. I let go, Zip! It was on the floor again, at the other end of the track. Knowing that I would be asked if the track might have had a slant, I reversed the vehicle and started it from the opposite end of the track. It worked just as effectively in the reverse direction. In fact, the vehicle can even navigate a respectable upgrade. In light of these tests, and considering the remarkable speed of the vehicle, you can discount any notion that this was a simple "coasting" effect.
http://www.rexresearch.com/johnson/1johnson.htm
@Haliburton;
was the sticky point avoided due to the curved shape? The next question is also wether this can be made a circular motion.
If you've really found a way to generate perpetual motion with magnets, you should immediately build a prototype that generates power (say enough to light a few LED's) and get it patented immediately as a toy. Don't disclose it as a perpetual motion machine, instead, pitch the patent as a science toy to show how power can be generated from spinning magnets. Of course, take your device to a patent attorney and show the working model to him, then release the simple plans to the public (A Patent will allow anyone to build your item for personal use, just not for mass production/resale without your permission/agreement).
If financial security or money are not an issue to you, you should immediately disclose your finding to the world on a public platform (show your working device to the media, and create a website that gives away the information to the public).
A person that comes up with a permanent magnet motor that is easy to build, and then releases this knowledge to the public, will go down in the history books....
If you've really done this, do you realize what you have your hands on? The biggest topic around the world is the energy crisis, and you've solved it by coming up with a method of building a generator that can power your house, your car, ... everthing....
Do the right thing with this knowledge now if you have it, otherwise go away .....
@ broli i am not sure. it was just what i found on this website http://www.rexresearch.com/johnson/1johnson.htm
The thought that we all know that magnets have a sticking point, no matter how large or small.
What if the magnet ran 100 miles long in one direction, the same track can be used in the reverse direction also.
If you where to put a train on that track it would NOT hit a sticking point for a hundred miles.
The bigger the magnet and the more you stretch it out, the more you have to work with.
It will still have a sticking point, but the longer the magnet the longer you go while avoiding the sticking point
Imagine a magnet like a donut that went around the world. the starting point and ending point would be in the same spot yet you have just traveled 25,000 on a magnet field around the earth
As far as I know the stickypoiny only arises with discontinuities. So if you have indeed a rail a circular rail (like for instance the water wheel here at the left). You could make the magnets in the middle make loops for quite some time. Or differently you can make the cart or w/e static and let the whole rail rotate benieth it rotate.
"Thought people might be interested in what I consider a minor breakthrough in concocting a linear field that may mimic Howard Johnson's toy race car effect. It's based on my original discovery of the three basic spin domains in a single magnet.
For far too long I've thought that all three domains, that I've labeled, A, B, and C must be present in an overt sense to make the thing work, but recently I tripped and fell into what should have been obvious; that A and B as I've defined them in Golden Vortex are the only domains that need be overtly, or three-dimensionally used.
Follow the diagrams below and the "armature" when it moves into the track field does so because of the straight A domain. It then hits the longer B domain and is converted into C. At the end it is reconverted to A and is kicked out of the field.
It enters and leaves the field not because of a magical polarity change, but because of a spin switch, CCW to CW.
In illustration 1, I show a top and side view of a single magnet of any diameter (call it one inch across and one-quarter inch thick). Mark the diameter into equal sections of one-sixth. What is important here is the 0ne-sixth measurement (blue) AND the one-half measurement (red).
Illustration 2 are top and bottom views of six single magnets laid out in a row on an iron or steel plate. The blue space between the first two magnets from left to right represents a 1/6th space, and next three red spaces are 1/2, or the radius of any single magnet apart. The last blue space is again 1/6th.
A single "armature" magnet placed at 90 degrees to the row will, at a certain height, be pulled into the track along the 1/2-spaced center magnets, and then be expelled out the other end. It should be noted that the 1/2 spaced magnets may be as many as you please, 3 or 3000.
In the case shown North travels toward North. To do a simple test as depicted, tape a disk armature magnet to the bottom of a nonferrous stick that is at least six inches long in order to avoid your hand coming within 4.5 inches of the track (I've also recently learned that 4.5 inches is the usual distance in which the human stays in the circuit ... but another story).
Hold the stick at the end opposite from the magnet and test for the right height by pushing the stick and magnet gently against the field while raising it. At a point about the radius of the armature magnet it ought to invade the track field as if being pulled, and then "drag" your hand with it.
Remember, you are stronger than the magnets, so ... go with whatever the magnets "want" to do. Try a toy car?
I'm working on bending the track in a circle and adding armature magnets. A few more tests..."
Quote from: PwrDream on May 30, 2008, 12:02:42 PM
If you've really found a way to generate perpetual motion with magnets, you should immediately build a prototype that generates power (say enough to light a few LED's) and get it patented immediately as a toy. Don't disclose it as a perpetual motion machine, instead, pitch the patent as a science toy to show how power can be generated from spinning magnets. Of course, take your device to a patent attorney and show the working model to him, then release the simple plans to the public (A Patent will allow anyone to build your item for personal use, just not for mass production/resale without your permission/agreement).
If financial security or money are not an issue to you, you should immediately disclose your finding to the world on a public platform (show your working device to the media, and create a website that gives away the information to the public).
A person that comes up with a permanent magnet motor that is easy to build, and then releases this knowledge to the public, will go down in the history books....
If you've really done this, do you realize what you have your hands on? The biggest topic around the world is the energy crisis, and you've solved it by coming up with a method of building a generator that can power your house, your car, ... everthing....
Do the right thing with this knowledge now if you have it, otherwise go away .....
when i made my discovery "Change the World" by Eric Clapton came on the radio...then later on that evening, the ceiling light in my livingroom started flickering and went out....
when i was young and lost faith in god i begged him for evidence that he was real...the next day the light in the hallway went out, in the same way.
i am not a religious nut or do i even go to church...but these two occurrances made all the hairs on my body stand on end...for the past few days i have been experiencing a very strange sense of fear like someone is observing me.
my request for magnet pictures will simply be evidence that can be used to debunk naysayers and big oil reps employed to downplay the proliferation of self sustaining energy.
this simple machine is so cheap to produce literally anyone can make it , there is absolutely no profit involved with these machines...that is how cheap they are to make...if you are looking for a lifetime of usage (considering the mags dont wear down)
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which brings me to my next point involving those who choose to ask for donatins to fund their projects...a true scientist/inventor will have purchsed all types of magnetic geometries to test with....at this point they will have placed all possible positions, with every possible variation in tolerances they could think of....and at the least would have been able to achieve forward motion....it does not take thousands or miliions to accomplish...it took me $50 to obtain linear travel through a space of 1 yard.
with a speed of approximately a 1/2 second...
anyone asking for donations or funding is a conman period...but those who ask for a one time payment for transfer of intellectal property rights are probably legitimate.
from a business standpoint, no business would ever sell a machine for $100 when it can be used for life...within a persons lifetime can you imagine how much money that person would save? and without a gradual adjustment in world economies, do you realize what kind of damage that would cause?
electricity cost for residential housing with a family of 4, with ac running 24/7 , that would be...$500 per month= $6000 per year x lifespan of 50 years =$300,000 and this isnt including gas for your car...
now muitply that number times the general bill paying population = lets just say 20 million people = $6,000,000,000,000 and this is just for one country.
where will they spend the excess money?
how can we change the world economy and make it benefitial with the divertion of funds?...free energy isnt the problem, its how to implement it...the nobel prize wont be won by the person who develops a free energy machine, hell thats been done MANY times, in many different forms, my way is just a different variation....it will be won by the person who can implement it...
btw im glad Haliburton and Broli have finally decided to get their heads right....i cant imagine a tree hugger who would speak to their fellow man in the manner in which they have exhibited...this doesnt really show a genuine compassion for human kind....rather it shows why 'some' humans are not ready for this technology.
this guy is right to some extent, we should all experiment and forget everything that says it cannot work, but i also do not have time for a lot of games and i would have to spend time i don't have to send photos. i flipped a skateboard upside down, taped two neos on one of the wheels with oppisite poles facing out and by holding a third bar magnet along the center line of the wheel magnets can spin the hell out of the wheel with the slightest movement of the thin bar magnet. when the right rythm or resonance is realized it fees like a fluid movement almost effortless. i taped different configurations of magnets to a stick to drive the wheel and have found many that work well, a slight angle seems best with poles facing left and right or horizontal if wheel is vertical. i fastened the stick to my bench with a nail to hinge the pivot point and again the slighest movement of the stick makes the wheel spin. play with that, feel the power and rythm, it almost floats, seems to want to keep moving. then design a linkage to the wheel to time the movements of the stick and your skateboard wheel should spin till the bearings fall out. now, i shared, see how easy that was..i even feel better now.
why does thou hast not the time? (sorry just had to)
what' the rush?...it takes 5 minues to send a photo...
i use to skate..."Rodeo" blows me away...i got out around the time the 540 and Mc Twist came out....all my friends were breaking bones, so i went into motocross instead...go figure.
too much reliance on mathematical models...
dont be shy to post pics even if you have less than 10 mags, it takes less than that to prove my discovery.
What kind of magnets do you need (square, sphere, rectangle...), and is this a circular motion or a linear motion you're talking about.
i don't have time to learn how to do photos might take five minutes to send but may take me five days to learn how. i can type but sorry i have no experience in photos or movies on these com'poot'ers. i taped two round cylinder shaped magnets about 1/2 inch long by 1/2 inch diameter to the wheel (just short enough to clear the board) the drive magnet is a thin bar magnet with poles on each flat side. the thin magnet is about two inches long by perhaps half an inch wide and maybee 1/4 inch thick. positive and negative poles only separated by thickness of magnet (1/4 inch). i share this hoping it helps someone working along the same lines. the wheel has enough torque to continue spinning with drag introduced by using a finger to apply a light braking effect. the trick seems to be the rhythm or timing of the drive magnet. perhaps sound waves could power the oscillating movements of the drive magnet with a proper frequency eliminating the need for timing linkage to the wheel. another idea, connect the linkage using rubber bands for a more forgiving fluid movement. just experiment. oh yea, i have buckets of mags
@ SINEWAVE & All
Here's my contribution to magnet pictures :)
I've read the argument that if magnets are incapable of doing work why do they stick to a fridge for years on end defying gravity? Well how about this version, if 2 magnets are set with opposing poles such as pictured then what is holding them apart indefinitely.
Also if you give the top one a little push it goes into oscillation, any way to hook up a coil to get back voltage on this movement? Haven't tried it yet myself, still looking for a suitable coil or will try to build one soon to see if I can tap any energy out of this setup.
PS: The magnets are set on the rubberized back end of a mouse pad to prevent them from sliding.
Regards,
Paul
goat that is a great twist. thinking outside the box, i like that. there are small generators available that can turn motion into current, i've seen them but can't reference you to them at the moment. try a search on google. motion doesn't have to be rotary to make electric current, can be up and down, back and forth, round and round or whatever. if rotary try an old auto alternator. i think the rubber base is good. i tried the same thing just now. i got one to stand like yours but it would flip and stick when i tried to make it maintain movement. may be my magnets are too light and flip easier. i'll try some different stuff. when anything is used to capture power from the movement however my thoughts are that may dampen the movement to some level, perhaps completely. might be springs, rubber bands, or something like that may contribute to a solution. has anyone here seen the stardrive generator invented by mark r. tomion? looks like he is working on a 24 kw unit now that is supposed to be 200% overunity. my diesel standby unit for my home and farm is only 21kw and it cost over $100 u.s. per day to operate. it would be great if this guy is for real. heck i may call him just to see.
i found this video showing wind belt producing power with up and down motion. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ0v-CK63-4
Quote from: SINEWAVE on May 29, 2008, 11:08:08 PM
if atleast 25 people take a picture of their magnets with their usernames written on a piece of paper in the same picture...i will show a short example
OK SINEWAVE,
I'm skeptical, but the price of admission is reasonable. Here's a link to my photobucket album where there are several photos of magnets I am using in some of my experiments. Altogether, I have over 300 Neo magnets of various strengths, sizes, and shapes and a few ceramics as well. I'm afraid I didn't write my name on a piece of paper, but it's in the URL of every image. Enjoy.
http://s285.photobucket.com/albums/ll48/overconfident/
And if you are interested, here's a thread discussing some of my ideas.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.0.html
OC
SINEWAVE are you gunna give us all a look when the 25 ppl have sent pics of there magnets? if so we are all gunna see it anyway so you may aswell just show it, you said in the original post in this thread that it was so simple and that the answers were right infront of us so maybe its time.
Quote from: 0c on June 01, 2008, 12:12:36 PM
OK SINEWAVE,
I'm skeptical, but the price of admission is reasonable. Here's a link to my photobucket album where there are several photos of magnets I am using in some of my experiments. Altogether, I have over 300 Neo magnets of various strengths, sizes, and shapes and a few ceramics as well. I'm afraid I didn't write my name on a piece of paper, but it's in the URL of every image. Enjoy.
http://s285.photobucket.com/albums/ll48/overconfident/
And if you are interested, here's a thread discussing some of my ideas.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.0.html
OC
Edit:
saw your name on wiki, almost mistakenly thought you made it...
seekingknowledge, what is the problem with closing the loop? what is needed to close it? what is your rush to be first?
@Sinewave;
Like some here he's trying to make clear that you should stop this game and just disclose what you need to disclose or fuck off. A lot of people here have worked to hard so spare the crap
. Why can't some people understand the meaning of open source. Surely software engineers do why can't this kind of community too. Have an idea? SHARE YOU FUCKING DICKHEAD instead of fucking people around. My language won't make me many friends but atleast I share my fucking ideas without asking people to lick my ass first.
Chances are that there is something wrong with it, and that's where the commnuity comes in hand to correct and maybe improve it. THAT'S HOW AN OPEN SOURCE COMMUNITY WORKS.
Quote from: broli on June 02, 2008, 05:24:42 AM
@Sinewave;
Like some here he's trying to make clear that you should stop this game and just disclose what you need to disclose or fuck off. A lot of people here have worked to hard so spare the crap
. Why can't some people understand the meaning of open source. Surely software engineers do why can't this kind of community too. Have an idea? SHARE YOU FUCKING DICKHEAD instead of fucking people around. My language won't make me many friends but atleast I share my fucking ideas without asking people to lick my ass first.
Chances are that there is something wrong with it, and that's where the commnuity comes in hand to correct and maybe improve it. THAT'S HOW AN OPEN SOURCE COMMUNITY WORKS.
Yeah broli right on man i couldnt of said it better myself, this bullshit game has gone on long enuf.
what is the problem with closing the loop?
if i show a working model of a Howard Johnson toy car, shall that apease thee?
if you say sorry...i may even show the magnet structure.
how many different SMOT types are there?
Wow, you guys flip out when someone doesn't give you what you want. I have an idea of my own that I want to try so I'll order some magnets today. I want to test that magnetic shielding idea that I came accross to see if it actually works. I suspect it will. There are probably many many different ways of orienting magnets to do useful work, I think Sinewave has a much different approach to what I'm doing if I'm understanding his SMOT variation right.
My contribution:
Eric
I think SINEWAVE knows shit! All he is trying to do is, to play a stupid game. If he had a working model (he said it is very eazy to make one), he would of place it in youtube, or upload a picture here in this thread. instead, he wants us to upload pictures of magnets!!! Come on now! He didn't give us anything simply because he doesn't have anything.
I think, Stefan should open a new forum, where people like SINEWAVE can post their idiotic puzzles/riddles, hoping to find any idiots to read them.
Ask not what is mystified.
Look to simpler things.
Like perpetual motion.
http://www.freewebs.com/boltoncomputers/PM.htm
I have no problem showing you my magnet, but I do wonder what your motives are. Why are you fishing, sinewave?
btw, I have many other magnets, but this is the coolest one (and strongest). ;)
Quote from: zerotensor on June 02, 2008, 08:50:42 PM
I have no problem showing you my magnet, but I do wonder what your motives are. Why are you fishing, sinewave?
btw, I have many other magnets, but this is the coolest one (and strongest). ;)
thats a cool magnet.
im fishing for people who can replicate, not people who have the wrong magnets who cant replicate...anyone can say they have went out and bought magnets.
but only a few can show its true.
I dont' have magnets yet but I will soon and I am getting a dynohub ...once I get it in I will send it
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EdV9233_pnQ
Quote from: SINEWAVE on June 02, 2008, 11:38:26 AM
if i show a working model of a Howard Johnson toy car, shall that apease thee?
if you say sorry...i may even show the magnet structure.
How does f@#k off sound mate, ill continue to view this forum to see comes of it and even post in it should it suit me but you get no sorry of me pal, SUPER GOD good on you that magnetic shielding idea looks the most promising thing ive seen so far, and SUPER GOD we arnt like this becuase we arnt getting what we want we are becuase SINEWAVE is waving a promise overunity infront of us but wont give.
Quote from: SINEWAVE on June 03, 2008, 12:05:31 AM
thats a cool magnet.
im fishing for people who can replicate, not people who have the wrong magnets who cant replicate...anyone can say they have went out and bought magnets.
but only a few can show its true.
Hi SINEWAVE,
I wonder which magnet is wrong or good for your idea, what is the direction of magnetization: lenght or thickness wise? You have not told it yet..
Here are some of my magnets, these are ferrite (ceramic) ones but I have some Neos as well.
Looking forward to your idea.
rgds, Gyula
I get your point Sinewave..
I'd show you my magnets as soon as I get my cam back ::)
Why doesnt everybody calm down and take a picture of their magnets? Should'nt be too hard..
Quote from: seekingknowledge on June 03, 2008, 04:06:20 AM
How does f@#k off sound mate, ill continue to view this forum to see comes of it and even post in it should it suit me but you get no sorry of me pal, SUPER GOD good on you that magnetic shielding idea looks the most promising thing ive seen so far, and SUPER GOD we arnt like this becuase we arnt getting what we want we are becuase SINEWAVE is waving a promise overunity infront of us but wont give.
seekingknowledge youre quite the keyboard commando, so will a howard johnson toy car work or not?...a yes or no shall be sufficient...tick, tock, tick , tock, tick......
Maybe just the standard "refrigerator magnets" stuff, but this is what I normally do the experimenting with.
I am planning to do some serious magnet shopping to be able to do some other tests.
What I don't like while experimenting, is the way I need to fixate the magnets.
If it's too permanent (Glue), I cannot easily adjust. If I loosely mount them (with Velcro e.g) it's not too accurate anymore
Anyone with a more practical idea about this?
Looking forward to your info SineWave
Herbert
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Selling energy is like selling a piece of the Moon; who owns it anyway...?!
90 degree angle iron screwed to secure, a little superglue, and flexible steel ruler....for little magnets its tougher...or just stick the mags to a metal plate if your working in 2 a dimensional world, the side cover from a computer case works good too.
anyone here make a TOMI track before?
How should i know i never build one or never seen a real working model, you never specified the type of magnets required to begin with or any other specifications just you and your power trip.
And yes if you showed footage it would apeas thee , but im not saying sorry you should show the fottage of your motor (doing some kind of work) because i have insulted you and you should show it to shut me up.
Ill tell you what you make a video longer then 10 seconds atleast a minute or so of CLEAR footage showing your motor doing some kind of work on a desk or on a floor where it can be seen that there is no external input, show behind the motor so that it can be clear that there is no motor behind it.
Do this and i will make a very public apology in this forum that i have been simple minded, a jerk.
Is this a deal?
Quote from: SINEWAVE on June 04, 2008, 12:19:13 AM
anyone here make a TOMI track before?
Yes, 6 feet long. But I was not able to gain any height so I had no roll away. I could have add more tracks but I needed a roll away.
Eric
Quote from: HerbertH on June 03, 2008, 01:34:29 PM
Maybe just the standard "refrigerator magnets" stuff, but this is what I normally do the experimenting with.
I am planning to do some serious magnet shopping to be able to do some other tests.
What I don't like while experimenting, is the way I need to fixate the magnets.
If it's too permanent (Glue), I cannot easily adjust. If I loosely mount them (with Velcro e.g) it's not too accurate anymore
Anyone with a more practical idea about this?
Looking forward to your info SineWave
Herbert
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Selling energy is like selling a piece of the Moon; who owns it anyway...?!
I've used HOTGLUE to hold my magnets in place. It works well, even on my strong magnets (sometimes I get a little hot glue on my hands when trying to place and hold the magnets, waiting for the glue to cool, but thats the price you pay).... When your done with the experiment, you can peel the glue off, usually without much effort (or mabey a little effort with prying and a flat head screwdriver).
PwrDream
So SINEWAVE, Is your discovery simply a circular TOMI track of some kind?
http://research.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/MagneticA1.html
Did you find the perfect layout for a TOMI track that closes the loop, or am I way out in left field?
PwrDream
Hi, my first post :)
I believe that if we think positive , we will get positive result.
can TOMI track rise a weight up to hill ??
Here is mine , we see!
@SINEWAVE
Here is my magnet config in form of the Howard Johnson toy car track. I uploaded it to youtube. Thanks to nothere2win ( http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4794.msg101097.html#msg101097 (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4794.msg101097.html#msg101097) ) for the illustration. It works pretty well :) I googled for it and it is from
"Nick Nelson's Amazing
Vortex & Magnet Discoveries - 08/05/01"
http://keelynet.com/temp/vortex/vortex1.htm
I tried two designs. Design1 with weaker magnets. Maybe not the right ones because they are metal coated to get both poles to the upside. But even this config works.
Design1 video: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=QqboTJ8rLCY (http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=QqboTJ8rLCY)
And the stronger magnets. The car lifts up in the air, so i have to attach a weight to keep it on track. I bought fifty of the stronger magnets to create a longer track but i have to get a linear bearing because the toy car evertime jumps off the track.
Even with the wobbly 4 rubber wheels and the load on it the toy car accelerates very fast.
Design2 video: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=ecQU70lL9Ts (http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=ecQU70lL9Ts)
The "armature" magnet is just taped in a 90 degree angel at the right height on the lego toy car.
Hmmm... this mounted on a wheel... maybe can come over the sticky point???
@SINEWAVE: are you pointig in this direction and have you closed the loop?
Looking good Dolomo. 8)
1 question however: in movie 1 (in movie 2 it looks OK), It seems to me that the gap distances are not as described by Nelson.
He describes that the gaps should be 1/2 of the magnets diameter, (and possibly starting and ending with a 1/6 diameter gap, but that's of minor importance). Your demo 1 doesn't look to be built that way? Or am I mistaken?
Or was this your choice because of the magnets used being weak?
@HerbertH
The magnets in movie 1 are special ones because the northpole is only in the inner circle and on the outer circle is the southpole. So if you took the inner circle than the distance between the two northpoles is ok.
I extended my design2 to over 0,5 meter but the the toy car can't go straight in a line so the wheel jumped out of the guideance and jamed. Must really get some low friction linear guidance rails. Maybe i have to go to a toy shop on monday and get some toy trains. ;D
@SINEWAVE,
Did you ever get your discovery to consistently run? Perpetual? I haven't heard from you in a few days so I was wondering if you had any more breakthrough news.
Thanks,
PwrDream