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Title: HHO Home Heating
Post by: gazzzwp on June 01, 2008, 09:15:50 AM
Hi Sir

I am looking at quite an ambitious project - namely using HHO to heat a cast iron multifuel stove - possibly by filling it with fire brick material.  Can anyone offer me any advice regarding flame spread/diffusion to enable this idea to work?  I understand that a directed hydrogen flame is capable of cutting metals, and so I would need the flame to be more spread similar to a natural gas/calor gas heater nozzle.  Do you think this would be a question of nozzle diameter and gas pressure?  Any ideas appreciated. 

Gazza
Title: Re: HHO Home Heating
Post by: Creativity on June 02, 2008, 04:16:32 PM
yes ,hydrogen will burn with very high temperature in pure oxygen.That is the way the metal cutters are made.

In ur case a use of excess air would work as a temperature buffer.simply allow air to premix with the HHO before u will ignite it(simple venturi nozzle).Hydrogen burns with almost every amount of oxygen supplied,so going very lean is not a problem and it will significantly drop the temperature of the operation  :). What u will get is more exhaust gases with lower temperature (vs less exhaust gasses with high temperature in pure HHO burn mode).
In the end, u will have the same energy harnessed and lower operational temperature.



Title: Re: HHO Home Heating
Post by: Goat on June 03, 2008, 07:14:25 AM
@ Intangion

Quite a few years back I had read an article on how to convert a natural gas heater to burn using Hydrogen gas, but that was a long time ago and I don't have a link to the original article.

I remember something about running the Hydrogen gas through a Stainless Steal mesh much like a scouring pad and apparently it didn't need any ignition as the catalytic reaction was self igniting  :o

I'm not sure how useful this information is compared to using HHO but you may want to search the net, the original article may still be floating around somewhere.

Regards,
Paul
Title: Re: HHO Home Heating
Post by: vdubdipr on June 06, 2008, 10:40:43 PM
i woundt worry about the temperature as much as whats going on with the flame, and id start small with a bunsen burner and mabe keep adding them on to each other, if your only makin 1-2 lpm double it so there is less flashback probubility, i dont think you have enough gas to really cut anything with ....do ya??? have you made a torch yet???? all you need is a needle valve and a flame cop/arrester. i think i remember bunsen burners being real cheap....
Title: Re: HHO Home Heating
Post by: Hope on July 31, 2010, 07:27:45 PM
This is already being make and sold in the USA so we can glean from an working device and make our own plans for all to have.    Your input will be between 300-350 watts and should be enough for 1500 square feet.   What is that about 
on juice 24/7 would be about $35 buck monthly.......  HOORAY  we all could make these, lets make safe plans and get started.   Please find and show any and all pix and plans so we can get this started.  You will have to add water as fuel though!
Title: Re: HHO Home Heating
Post by: Mark69 on July 31, 2010, 10:00:25 PM
Has anyone seen 1 yet?
Title: Re: HHO Home Heating
Post by: Goat on August 01, 2010, 11:11:40 AM
@ All

I found one of the articles that I had mentioned in my previous post.

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Cooking.pdf

Please read it as there is important information about emissions...

"It has been observed in early experiments that the flame
combustion of hydrogen/air mixtures can lead to
unacceptable levels of nitrogen oxide (NOx) pollutant
emissions."

Regards,
Paul
Title: Re: HHO Home Heating
Post by: Hope on August 05, 2010, 02:18:35 AM
If you do make this        please make your HHO from titanium  so you don't make toxic chromium, like stainless steel does.
Title: Re: HHO Home Heating
Post by: Cherryman on August 05, 2010, 09:19:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7HlMTjKQfo
Title: Re: HHO Home Heating
Post by: Sente on August 06, 2010, 06:05:28 AM
hi

eigentlich ist mein kommentar überflüssig weil,
hier im forum soviel korifeen mitglieder sind.

also:
1.
wenn man ahnung hat davon, wie eine titan zelle aufgebaut werden muss !
kann man es machen,  die gas ausbeute ich aber nicht so viel mehr, fakt.


2.
der einspruch von jmd von wegen,  chlor gas, sind erstmal zuvernachlässigen.
und wenn jemand den vorschlag macht  , edelstahlplatten in qualität X durch titan platten zuersetzen, zeigt es nur , das der autor sich mit der materie nicht auseinander gesetzt hat und somit durch falschaussagen andre zu teuren fehlern verleitet.

achtung beim bau einer titan zelle, erst den aufbau verstehen und wissen was und wo aus titan gefertigt werden kann.


übersetzen koennt ihr selber, oder lasst es sein.



mfg

sente







Title: Re: HHO Home Heating
Post by: Hope on September 03, 2010, 12:18:31 AM
People seem to think ground metal in solution will make HHO with mere milliamps      I hope the new PMH way of magnetizing stainless steel works for that effort.