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You guys seen Joseph Newmans latest videos?

He says the world is coming to an end on December 21st, 2012. 
He actually has alot of facts to back it up!

The Ultimate Solution to Total Destruction by Joseph Newman (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1836306637510497206&hl=en)
Preparing for the Ride of Your Life! (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5820798310213093601&hl=en)
Miracle warning from God (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1041747661262223395&hl=en)

poor Joe.

I really like the man, but he's a little coo coo

i must say i get quite a laugh when i watch him--he's intelligent (maybe even brilliant), but eccentric

wish he wouldn't ask for money though...i couldn't bear to watch it to the end

Joe has obviously pulled that date from the Mayan calander, though multiple other cultures have independently predicted extraordinary happenings for the same time-period.  It's all supposed to start happening from 2009 onward, so if we manage to reach 2010 without a major event, maybe we can breathe easier...

Yea. I hear you poynt, he is definately a wackadoo !!!!

I wish he wouldn't ask for money too.  And I can't understand
why if he cares about mankind so much, why he doesn't just
publish his latest technologies.

But in spite of all that, he really does have alot to back up
this armageddon thing :-(

I must be missing it.  Maybe it is in plain sight but I just dont see it.
Where is the URL link to the story/video you are talking about?

That guy might be a little off because I remember seeing an old (1990's??)  X-Files episode on SF channel just recently and Fox Mulder specifically said it was December 22 (NOT 21).

My wife and I just drove by a gas station and saw $4.01 gas for the very first time (in Phoenix).  I am an old fart and can clearly remember buying gas in the late 60's for 20 cents a gallon...yep, that is twenty cents a gallon...not a dollar and twenty or two or three or four dollars and twenty cents, just $0.20 per gallon.   Holly shit.  Are we in trouble now.  Strange times.  Stock market down 400 yesterday. Almost afraid to see what happens next.

i didnt look at the joe video, but i have a question for you people who have seen it,

..if we give him money will he make it stop ?.  ::)

Howdy Y'all,

12/21/2012 is the end for the evil factions.  Those who are meek shall inherit the Earth.  There are significant changes coming.  It's a good time to clear up your karma and get good with GOD.  However if you are Reptilian, Draconian, Illuminati or a Bush you are going to get thrown into the fire.  Not just regular fire, but soul purifying electric fire that erases your soul knowledge.  It's like a soul reboot.  That way you can get a second chance, but you can't remember what you did wrong.  Armageddon, The Rapture, The Apocalypse, or whatever you call it, it's coming fast, and there is no man that can stop it.

Viva La Divinity...

Blessed Be Brothers...

Sounds good to me... It is kinda of weird how alot of ancient civilization's point out the same timframe. I guess it just goes to show they knew more about solar and galactic movement than we give them credit.

I will prepare I suppose,

But the problem I see is how and the piss do you expect everyone to believe such claims?

The End Of The world was comming numerous times in my lifetime... And I aint that old...

Everyone rack up tons of debt and get everything you want and do everything you wanted to now cause in 4 years you will no longer have the chance!

muah!

-infringer-

Have a look at his latest video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5820798310213093601&q=joseph+newman&ei=PbdQSI3bBpmSigKqloXNDA

Forward to around 15:40 minutes.

There he shows, how the sun reversus its magnetic flux field because of going through the axis
of the milkyway or something like this....

As the results of this the earth magnet field will also flip
and push the earth back and forth, so all the oceans will be pushed over the lands,
many very big Tsunamies coming up
and many earthquakes will take place, etc...
theearth will just flip back and forth and maybe also break apart ?

So this does sounds pretty logical to me...

ALso there are other videos on youtube that say,
that in 2012 there will be a black hole coming near earth and thus shake the earth up this way...

Just search on www.youtube.com
for
NIBIRU 2012

e.g.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkv4chj47XY

Well... what do you think of this all ?

Can this be possible and if it really will occur,
how can we all safely avoid being killed by these events ?

Please let me know your view.

Many thanks.

Here is a good intro video intro into the Nibiru problem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4D3upGhNW0

"Repent all ye sinners, for the end of the world is nigh" ..... now available in paperback - 527^th revision     :D :D

I recently watched a lecture from Maurice Cotterrell, fellow who "cracked" the Maya code from the Lid of Palenque, titled "Secrets of the super gods". In it he looks into Sun spot cycles, Sun magnetic field and how it affects everything else, including human beings and planet Earth, and why Mayas cared so much about all of that. The lecture was truly inspiring, just wish it was much longer with the rest of his research. This guy is someone who is a real scientist and not some New Age kook, and I recommend watching this lecture to everyone. I believe it might still be available on the torrents...

Quote from: hartiberlin on June 12, 2008, 01:53:41 AM
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Well... what do you think of this all ?

Can this be possible and if it really will occur,
how can we all safely avoid being killed by these events ?

Please let me know your view.

Many thanks.

Learning to swim really, really well would be a start! :D

Those needing to believe that it's all crap can take solace from the fact that one of the most accurate psysics of the 20'th century, Edgar Cayce, predicted a similar fate for earth, but for around 1999, which never came to pass...

Personally I believe 'something' is going to happen, and you are going to have the world governments trying to deflect attention from any early warning signs by all means necessary - they have already started imo, when they started waving the "Global Warming" flag in earnest.  That way, any noticable upsurge in world disasters will be put down to a 'known' cause, at least at first - when this is no longer credible in the eyes of the public, then they'll probably have to get a little more creative...

If we are in for the often-mentioned pole-shift (which scientists even admit is due, so a possibility) the end should be mercifully quick - here is a passage about the fossil graveyards, possibly a result of last pole-shift:

Quote"Fossils are a great embarrassment to Evolutionary Theory....." (Dr. Gary Parker, PhD - Biologist/Paleontologist)

The lethal wound to uniformitarian geology is to be found within the great fossil graveyards that exist in every major country, especially the Americas. In these fossil graveyards vast numbers of creatures are violently mixed together. There are dinosaur graveyards in America and China with hundreds of dinosaurs mixed and buried together.

How did they get there in such vast quantities?

Many fossil graveyards are high up in mountainous areas. In Sicily, for example, four thousand feet above sea level on Mount Etna, there are two caves crammed with the bones of thousands of hippopotamus in each grave. On the island of Malta there are lions, tigers, mammoths, birds, beavers, hippopotamus and foxes all mixed together.

A cave in Malta contains so many fossils that Malta's present size would not keep this awesome quantity alive for just one week. In America, a death pit exists near Hollywood, with eagles, doves and approximately two hundred and fifty saber tooth tigers and fifty elephants.

Incidentally, when the Spaniards migrated to America there was not one elephant to be found, and not one single horse in America, and yet horses have been found buried and fossilised by the hundreds and thousands in America.

How did they get there?

The pinnacle of the great fossil graveyards must be that of the Arctic and Siberia. It is on a scale so awesome and stupendous that they utterly defy description. Buried in the frozen tundra are countless mammoths, elephants, horses, lions, foxes, camels and other species. For mammoths alone, estimates have run as high as five million in these titanic graveyards. Some of these fossils were so well preserved that their flesh was used to feed husky dogs. How did they get there in such huge quantities?

Finally, in California, petrified fish, fossilised with mouths open, backs arched and fins spread, have been found. Many of these fish are partly on end with the body passing through two planes of rock-strata. By modern geology this would mean that the fish-tail is separated from its head by millions of years.

That, of course, is not possible. There are approximately five fish per square foot over approximately four square miles. This equates to more than one billion fossilised fish over an area of four square miles.

Similarly, in Fifeshire, England, well preserved fish were found in sandstone. More than 1000 fish were jammed into one square yard. How did they get there?

Modern geology cannot explain fossil graveyards and many geologists admit to this. These graveyards are dramatic evidence that an era of the world ended with enormous violence.

It has been admitted that fossilisation on such a calamitous worldwide scale could only have occurred through the action of immense flood waters so enormous as to defy explanation. Sedimentary rock is formed by the action of water passing over strata, and fossils are only found in sedimentary rock.

The fossils we have discussed would have been buried rapidly, ensuring enough delay in decomposition to imprint the fossils that we see. The groupings of the different animals in large quantities might also suggest that they took refuge in these caves, or were simply washed there.

Sleep well y'all... :D

Howdy Y'all,

Obviously, to the chagrin of modern science, massive geophysical changes happed in a extremely short period of time.  Modern academic theories are woefully inadequate.  All you have to do is read the akashic record to know what really happened.

There is a reason that the armeggedon has been such a long time in coming.  Spiritual forces want to know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, who is bold and who is meek.  How do you do this?  Give them LOTS of time.  "Give them enough rope and they will hang themselves".  How-za-bout 2000 years?  The meek know God is coming and haven't wavered a bit.  They hold God's law and live correctly.  The Bold, however, figure that the whole God thing is just a fairy tale and they convince themselves that there is no God, no Karma, and they can do whatever they want.  They prove it to.  They romp all over everything, creating mayhem and destruction wherever they go, killing, and stealing whatever they want.  What a bunch of stupid ignorant sons of bitches.  They are not aware that the akashic record is recording every single thing that they do.  Then God, and the myriad of the forces of light show up 2000 years later and take inventory.  Their accounting department is flawless.  It is just simple record keeping.  The forces of light just look at the akashic record, and know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, who is naughty and who is nice.  IT IS SO Simple!

When the time is up, God shows up and harvests the crop.  The wheat is harvested, and the chaff is plowed back into the field.  Why is this so hard to understand.  The fruitful, beneficial people are saved and can live on, and the malevolent, evil people are uncreated, and destroyed.

Blessed Be Brothers...

Well, as this is a woo woo thread into a site that many people consider woo woo (I don't think that, but I am a member), I think that I can chip in with what I know.

I have been friend for some years with a person that has nothing to loose or win from telling me what she knows.  She was a normal woman until she was exposed to contact with what we would call ET, whose saved her from a certain death (something to do with her boyfriend denouncing some gangster). She has been in contact with these ET since. They have told her that what's happening on earth happens almost in every planet, that has cycles. This is the last cycle for earth before it is no longer habitable by persons in the flesh. They confirmed, basically, that many things said by the Maya were right on target. But they are also here to oversee that no external (other less evolved but technologically savvy  ETs) or internal (Powers that Be) intervention occurs in the fate of the planet. They have told that there is no way to know exactly what will happen, and they actively work for avoid major disasters (climate and tectonic wise). Once a certain date is achieved, that has nothing to do with their will, but is an astronomical event (they said 12/20/2012 mm/dd/yyyy), Earth will enter into another stage of development, and only those who achieved by then certain level of  conciousness (as understanding of the truths beyond the limited and wrong perceptions we have) will remain on earth in a less dense kind of body. Everyone else will reencarnate again in the flesh, but this time, elsewhere, earth won't be available.

I convey this, understanding that is an information that most minds will reject as rubbish. But those who have ears to hear perhaps will gain a bit more of comprehension of what is happening.

Quote from: ChileanOne on June 13, 2008, 12:19:02 AM
Well, as this is a woo woo thread into a site that many people consider woo woo (I don't think that, but I am a member), I think that I can chip in with what I know.

I have been friend for some years with a person that has nothing to loose or win from telling me what she knows.  She was a normal woman until she was exposed to contact with what we would call ET, whose saved her from a certain death (something to do with her boyfriend denouncing some gangster). She has been in contact with these ET since. They have told her that what's happening on earth happens almost in every planet, that has cycles. This is the last cycle for earth before it is no longer habitable by persons in the flesh. They confirmed, basically, that many things said by the Maya were right on target. But they are also here to oversee that no external (other less evolved but technologically savvy  ETs) or internal (Powers that Be) intervention occurs in the fate of the planet. They have told that there is no way to know exactly what will happen, and they actively work for avoid major disasters (climate and tectonic wise). Once a certain date is achieved, that has nothing to do with their will, but is an astronomical event (they said 12/20/2012 mm/dd/yyyy), Earth will enter into another stage of development, and only those who achieved by then certain level of  conciousness (as understanding of the truths beyond the limited and wrong perceptions we have) will remain on earth in a less dense kind of body. Everyone else will reencarnate again in the flesh, but this time, elsewhere, earth won't be available.

I convey this, understanding that is an information that most minds will reject as rubbish. But those who have ears to hear perhaps will gain a bit more of comprehension of what is happening.

This is very similar to David Wilcock's Theory of the Fourth Density. Very cool stuff. One thing he said was a requisite of entering the fourth density on Earth was more than 50 percent belief that we are all part of "The One". Who knows. Enjoy the days you do have.

Folks,

it is always the same game : if you do exact research you find it among the prophecies in 2002.
We must be all dead by this ominous planet since 2003.

http://www.bunkahle.com/Aktuelles/Astrologie/Planet_X_Nibiru.html

It is a waste of time, especially because it implants fears and forces people to waste another portion of time preparing for something totally uncertain.

Kator

Excellent work ChileanOne,

You have the concept down perfect.  The Earth is ascending to higher plane of existence.  The Earth is a living being on a path of evolution and growth, just as we are.  This cycle, the end of the Mayan calendar, is the date when the Earth is ascending from the 3rd density on up to the 4th density for a short time and then on to remain in the 5th density until the end of the next great cycle.  Humans will no longer incarnate into the 3rd density on this planet.  While Earth will still be visible to 3rd density creatures, and it will appear to be a barren wasteland, much like Mars is now.

2012 is not the end of the world, depending on your perspective.  The Elect, or the meek, who follow Gods laws will be ascending with the Earth into the 5th density.  This is the Golden Dawn of the Kingdom of God that people have been looking forward to for milenia.  However for the Elite, or the bold, this is the Armageddon.  Those who live in reckless defiance of Gods laws have a couple of choices.  The really, really wicked one are to be uncreated.  This is a process of wiping clean all the soul knowledge of the individual.  They get a total redo, and start from scratch, nuthin.  Then the not so wicked ones must leave Earth and are banished to a 3rd density planet called the Void.  There they can make war all they want and not harm the Earth or the Elect.  From what I understand they will be taken to the Void in their current physical bodies so that they can remember all that they did to get themselves put there, and have a long, long time to think about it.

The actual processes of ascension will take 20 years, and 2012 is just the start of that process.  The Armageddon will happen in the next few years and all the Elite will be banished.  This way the elect will have a peaceful world on which to go through the ascension process.  There is a lot of information out the on the internet about Nibiru, 2012, and everything stated above.  Your rational mind will not like it.  There are a lot of mind bending concepts, and you will not be able to accept them at first.  Keep reading, you will grow in understanding, and eventually be able to  rationally hold these concepts in your mind.

So what does this thread have to do with Overunity?  It is the Elite that have suppressed inventions of every kind in order to support their wicked, oil based, New World Order Agenda.  When the Elite are banished, and removed from Earth, all of the suppressed inventions will be given to mankind, along with a new "alien" technologies.  Our galactic brothers, the "aliens", have been eager to help us, but they are restricted, and have to wait for the Elite to be rounded up and banished before they can help.  You will know it when this time comes.  Not only will the Elite disappear, but our galactic brothers will come in mass and help us to restore the Earth and the People of Earth to what they should be.  This will be an infinite relief to me.  Watching the Elite cause unmitigated destruction to the Earth and her People is a terrible, heart wrenching experience for me.  My whole life long I have been waiting for the Golden Dawn of the Nation of God, and now it is close at hand.

Blessed Be Brothers...

Quote from: konduct on June 13, 2008, 02:03:17 AM
This is very similar to David Wilcock's Theory of the Fourth Density. Very cool stuff. One thing he said was a requisite of entering the fourth density on Earth was more than 50 percent belief that we are all part of "The One". Who knows. Enjoy the days you do have.

Hello Konduct:

The amount of convergence between different sources is overwhelming. That should tell something by itself.

Quote from: Kator01 on June 13, 2008, 05:41:47 AM
Folks,

it is always the same game : if you do exact research you find it among the prophecies in 2002.
We must be all dead by this ominous planet since 2003.

http://www.bunkahle.com/Aktuelles/Astrologie/Planet_X_Nibiru.html

It is a waste of time, especially because it implants fears and forces people to waste another portion of time preparing for something totally uncertain.

Kator

Maybe they did not get the date right ?

Also I did not hear Newman speak of the Niribu planet,
when I remember correctly.

He just said,
that the sun?s magnetic axis will flip due to some crossing of an axis of the milkyway system
or simular event and that then also the earth will flip and thus rock back and forth
as he shows it in his video.

Well, if somebody comes by any other evidence from hard facts,
please post some links.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

So should I not renew any of my domain names past 2012?

Howdy,

From what I know The Forces of Light are making a huge effort to preserve all infrastructure.  The Internet should continue to operate, was well as electric, gas, and water.  The internet and telephony infrastructure is the nervous system of Earth.  See this thread.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4255.0.html

Post #14 is about Earth growing a brain, with nerve fibers and neurons.

Blessed Be Brothers...

Quote from: z.monkey on June 13, 2008, 11:18:19 AM
From what I know The Forces of Light are making a huge effort to preserve all infrastructure.

Did the Forces of Light call you and tell you this, or did you read about it on the Internets?

The Archangel Michael comes over to my house on Thursday nights.  We barbecue some chickens and talk about the ascension.  There is nothing like hard wood smoked chickens and getting your information directly from the source.   :-*

I dont know why but after 80000 hits on u tube@ Stephans nibiru 2012 link has been removed from viewing ?  Chet

That is the day when all gasoline and oil will end, and then the Mad Max era will begin  ::)

So stefan i dont suppose you are able to contact newman or one of his associates and ask them when there will be some more videos on his energy technology? and updates on what progress he has made , in the first 2012 warning video a man named jim jorden who indroduces himself at the start and says he has worked with joe for the last few months on his machine so what more on that?

Could we maybe see more what jim and joe have to say about it and see some real demos?

@Stefan..........when you're talking to Joe, could you please ask him
one more thing?  If he cares about humanity so much, why doesn't he
just publish his technology for free, insted of asking everybody to send
him the price of one tank of gas????

Howdy Y'all,

Life on the dark side of the galaxy is all we know.  Our whole lives have been spent
on the dark side, we have have never seen the light side.  The dawn is happening
in 2012.  The grand cycle, the time it takes our solar system to orbit the galaxy, is
26,000 years.  The past 13,000 years we have been on the dark side.  This is why
2012 is such a monumental event.  We are going to be in the light once again.  When
we are on the dark side our planet is in the dominion of the Annunaki.  As we approach
the light side of the galaxy they have to release their dominion and we are free again
for another half cycle.  When we move into what is considered the photon belt we
are passing into the light, the new dawn for our whole system.  This is why there is
so much controversy surrounding 2012.  It is a scary event for mankind in general,
because none of us have ever seen the light.  The Mayan calendar has this date
clearly marked, and they were aware of all the implications because they were around
when our solar system went into the dark side of the galaxy.  When the Annunaki
first came to Earth and established their dominion.  My best information states that
the Annunaki relinquished their dominion in 1998.  This means some of the light was
already shining through 10 years ago.  Now we are a mere 4 years away.  It's time
to party like it 2012!

Blessed Be Brothers...

Quote from: z.monkey on July 25, 2008, 04:13:03 PM
Howdy Y'all,

Life on the dark side of the galaxy is all we know.  Our whole lives have been spent
on the dark side, we have have never seen the light side.  The dawn is happening
in 2012.  The grand cycle, the time it takes our solar system to orbit the galaxy, is
26,000 years.  The past 13,000 years we have been on the dark side.  This is why
2012 is such a monumental event.  We are going to be in the light once again.  When
we are on the dark side our planet is in the dominion of the Annunaki.  As we approach
the light side of the galaxy they have to release their dominion and we are free again
for another half cycle.  When we move into what is considered the photon belt we
are passing into the light, the new dawn for our whole system.  This is why there is
so much controversy surrounding 2012.  It is a scary event for mankind in general,
because none of us have ever seen the light.  The Mayan calendar has this date
clearly marked, and they were aware of all the implications because they were around
when our solar system went into the dark side of the galaxy.  When the Annunaki
first came to Earth and established their dominion.  My best information states that
the Annunaki relinquished their dominion in 1998.  This means some of the light was
already shining through 10 years ago.  Now we are a mere 4 years away.  It's time
to party like it 2012!

Blessed Be Brothers...

Well I am glad to be alive and going into the light  ;D
Nice to see a non doom and gloom comment about 2012.

Cheers :D
am1ll3r

David Wilcock explain very well 2012, it's for all stars in our galaxie, coming from a burst from our black hole at the center of the galaxie, a Super Light burst, all the planets of our solar system experiment already heating temperature, all of them !

cycle of 26000 will end in 2150 far after 2012

no matter where we will be in 2012 Central Sun will beam all the galaxie for few months

Quote from: Sprocket on June 07, 2008, 08:39:46 PM
Joe has obviously pulled that date from the Mayan calander, though multiple other cultures have independently predicted extraordinary happenings for the same time-period.  It's all supposed to start happening from 2009 onward, so if we manage to reach 2010 without a major event, maybe we can breathe easier...

Do you remember which cultures?

Nibiru is first interpreted as a planet by Zacharia Sitchin ( www.sitchin.com ), others are merely 'abusing' it.

to find David Wilcock go to http://divinecosmos.com

the last Central Sun burst occured 36 millions years ago and there is still life on earth, life on earth had evolve suddenly with great step

so i do not panic, we have only to keep good mind, positive mind and many will survive after 2012, and many others will leave the earth in astral bodies for a new adventure of life

2012 is the time where all the time-line is rearrange to keep going in the right way, sort of act of God

No, 2012 is the end of the mayan calender :)
Better look into what their calender is based on, don't take those esotheric website too serious.

Howdy Loner,

You are right!  We are here to experience creation first hand.  Despite what the "authorities" tell you, we are here to experience, and that can be whatever you want.  This is something that I find awesome.  That the celestial host build entire universes so that His creations could "experience" creation.  Life is precious, don't take it too seriously, and definitely have fun living...

Blessed Be Brothers...

Hey you all this is my first time posting from South Africa

intresting topic indeed run a search for Marion William Branham,after reviewing some of the proficys he made it was astonishing !!!
he predicted abpout bubble shaped cars and cars that will one day drive themselves,this was predicted in 1950's.
some of the subjects he taught on was even more breathtaking to me .thisngs he showed in the bible i never saw it that way.
he did make one particular proficy very cleasr.Los Angeles will sink beneath the ocean.whether that is form the earth shaking or i dont know.
he also proficied that the money system will collapse and because Amarica being so deep in dept will not be able to repay the bonds this where the Vatican steps in and pays the Jews the bonds with gold.ther after the Vatican will break thier end of the bargain and armageddon will start.
Now in all this keep wathsing Russia the bible talks of the nation of the north, Branham said that the russians will drop a bomb on the Vatican,for Amarica he says he looked behind him (in a vision) and Amarica was utterly destroyed.
now if you are considering the manopaly of the petrol price,I mean ther are no wars in the middel east or shortages,the inflation intrast rates and so on i think Branham knew what he was talking about.

whether the date is right i dont know in fact the bible says the angels dont know but according to the calender in Revelations the gentile dispensation ends in the tenth chapter.

in Revelations 10:1 the bible talkes about another mighty angel coming down with a rain bow around his head.
now go to some Branham sites,theres a cloud picture constantly shown witch was taken by Life Magazine and you can see the Hofmans Head Of Christ in there.was that Him comming down?

the end is nearing and i see ther are sllot o critisim about this man mabe we should consider?

anyway intristing thought i might be wrong

Digits welcome   my mother inlaw would love you" Malachi 4"  every generation thinks theirs is the last   who knows?? 
Loner
Z
ALL
who really knows??  Chet PS and what can we really do about it ?

Howdy Ramset,

He he.  You gotta have faith.  You have to firmly believe in something that is TOTALLY intangible to you.  Something you can't see, touch, hear, taste or smell.  Something you have to believe in, and know is there, even though there is no way you can ever physically verify it.  Kind of like ZPE.  We all KNOW its there, but there is no way to put it in a can and sell it.

Hahahahhahahhaaahhahahaaaa....

Blessed Be Brothers...

thanks ramset man you are so right i think there are 900 diffrent christian believes who do i believe.
i think if we search hard enough we will find the right way.though one thing i somtimes wonder do you guys think that this earth wil sustain us for another 50-100 years.the end will have to come sometime.

i just fear that the day we see Los Angeles sink it is allready too late.

Z  yes!! Chet PS your one cool dude [one of those that can and does] on to whom much is given!!

DIGITS well I guess the free will rule applies Chet

Hi guys!

First off, I'd like to say that this is a really coool forum!! Keep it up! I'm still a little bit on the skeptical side of the Newman motor though. Either it's just not working or I still have a lot to learn. (My first newman project failed -- the magnet won't spin).

Anyway, for this topic 2012.. for those who choose to believe:

By 2012, it is said that our very own sun will be in the middle of the milky way galaxy, and our earth will be in alignment with it.
Now, what will happen during that time is subject to much debate. People say that our planet will turn upside down, we'll have tidal waves like 2 to 3 kilometers high, major earthquakes and volcanic eruptions and all that good stuff  ;D

Whether the effects are true or not, I guess there's no use worrying about that I think.. we'll cross the bridge when we get there!


As for J. Newman, I am all for his humanitarian causes, but I agree with what the rest of the guys here are saying. I literally had to shut down my PC than to listen to the guy ask for money.. it's just plain appalling.



Well, anyway, great job on this site! I hope we can come up with a breakthrough with this Newman motor! I'm really planning to use it to power my 500watt PC someday!  ;D

Just wondering if anyone has dreams about any of this?  I have had several, over as many years, all involving water (lots of it!).  In the latest, I am watching a massive wave, still several miles away, heading for my home.  Another dream involves watching mass UFO landings. (hundreds, they're everywhere)  Is there anyone having similar dreams? - or should I just go back on the lithium! :D

This is all disheartening.  I've had many dreams about this sort of thing myself... even so, I find it hard to believe that the earth will flip over, still interesting though is the behavior of one of our inner planets spinning the opposite direction of all of the other planets.  Although an electromagnetic shift is possible - and most likely inevitable, who's to say what sort of destruction that it might bring.

Kent Hovind, now in jail on tax evasion charges, has some videos out that have evidence of man made artifacts buried in coal - intriguing.

This reminds me of a book titled 5/5/200 by Richard W. Noone - which went to great lengths to explain the relations of the great pyramids and the stars it also suggested that the great pyramid was actually a water pump, the the causeway was a canal supplying water to farmlands and such.

..having witnessed the zeitgiest movie, among other sources, 'quacks' or not; our understanding of history changes due to the articulation of facts.  When something is discovered that does not fit into the flow of things, it's usually discarded - sadly.

*about Kent Hovind: his own ideas are questionable - as are everyone's - it's his material that is most interesting; as a religious scholar and a scientist / archeologist, or whatever he's claimed to be, he does a good job of presenting materials.

As for Joe Newman, he seems to have a hard time articulating, almost coming to anger - reminds me of a parent trying to convey a point; you know what they mean to say, and what they want to say, but the greater part of the understanding in their point has to come from one's personal intuitions, otherwise the point is almost entirely lost.

Newman makes a good point about the nature of countries - when some tragedy befalls a nations; it's usually it's enemy that benefits as a result of the pitfalls - such as the English Spanish naval wars 1595 - 1604, but there were many other forces at work in those conflicts.

Howdy Sprocket,

Dreams are a very powerful connection between your brain and your mind, your spirit.  You spirit does not live in linear time.  It knows of the the past before your time and the future.  You may well be experiencing the future in your dreams.  Lots of water sounds like the potential coming cataclysm (pole shift), and the massive fleet of UFOs is the eminent first contact with the Galactic Federation who are planning to initiate first contact soon.  The Galactic Federation has been holding back the natural forces which are trying to cause our planet to pole shift.  Without their help the Earth would be uninhabitable.  This is a subject which is highly subjective.  Generally you have to do some "soul" searching to interpret what the dreams mean to you.  Usually the dream is meant only for you, and like a puzzle, you have to work to figure it out...

Blessed Be Brothers...

Morning you guys.

dreams are power full indeed and sometimes it might heed a warning.

i went and looked up on the geology of Loss Angeles intresting theres a hole documentary on ,the hole place is built on a massive cave.
it actually stretches the whole of California a massive piece of land.Now they say a good earthquake will almost defiantly sink the joint.
Imagine the title wave this piece of land mass will give off.Almost all coastal city's will be flooded,maybe thats what Sprocket saw ?
concerning Aliens i don't believe that,if you ask me they are visiting angels,in the old testament there where two angels that visited Sodom and Gomorrah.Sodom and Gomorrah was the filthiest city in that age and Jesus said ,as it was in the days Sodom so shall it be in the days of the comming of the Son of man.but guys thats just my thought on that.

about Kent Hovant i enjoyed his lectures allot,though there are some things i do disagree with,but none the less he's got a gift,witch i respect allot.

Anyway just my thoughts on this subject thanks guys keep the good work up.

DIGITS

@z.monkey - if there is anything to my dreams, I don't think we are in for a pole-shift - at least, what I envision a pole-shift would entail!  It would seems more like 'just' a series of sunamis, although in one, much of the surrounding landscape is under a blanket of water which seems to have had 'settled'...  btw, to date, most of my dreams are pretty mundane and have never been predictive in nature.  My only 'claim to fame' has been a dream where I was watching TV as the lottery numbers were being called.  When I awoke, I wrote down the first three I remembered clearly, and a fourth I was unsure of. (I wrote down 2 numbers, one of which I was sure was right)  To cut a long story short, months later while back home on holiday, I was talking to my brother, with the telly on in the background.  You guessed it - on came the lottery results and I casually mentioned my dream and the three numbers I had dreamt about.  Unbelieveably, when the final 6 numbers were sorted, I had nailed the first 3 consecutive numbers, and the fourth was one of my 2 possible choices!  My brother accused me of playing games and actually checked that it wasn't a pre-recorded video we were watching! :D

And no, I hadn't bought a ticket!  Strange but true....  :o

Howdy Y'all,

I believe I said that the Galactic Federation is preventing the pole shift, so no destruction.  Anyway dreams are subjective.  You have to interpret the meaning, if you can remember it correctly.  They are your dreams, someone else (me) will only interpret them in a way that makes sense to them.  To decipher their true meaning, if they indeed do have a true meaning, you must do this on your own.  Write down everything you can remember as soon as you wake up.  The memory of a dream usually fades quickly.

Blessed Be Brothers...

Galactic Federation is fiction   :D

Howdy Alan,

Well, first the Galactic Federation is on the Etheric Plane, and totally intangible to us.  So you are denying the existence of Ascended Masters, Angels, and Archangels, along with their ships and technology that have been developed for millions, perhaps billions of years.  Do you also not believe in GOD?  When Earth Ascends and we move into the 5th Density you will be able to see them with your physical eyes.  No, I have not seen them with my physical eyes, but I contact them regularly when I Astral Travel.  To see them now you need to be Etheric Clairvoyant, are you?  Most of humanity is still 3rd Density, some are in the 4th Density now.  As the Earth Ascends you will have no choice but to Ascend with her to the 5th Density, then you will be able to verify that the Galactic Federation is indeed real...

Blessed Be Brothers...

Hi: Im new to this forum, and I think there is a lot of cool stuff here, I had no Idea there were so many people looking for so many different free energy devices. I have spent the last week going through the different topics and  am truly amazed. I must admit the one that intrigues me the most is that story about a Mr. Bessler. I mean if ever there was a true free energy device, that would be it, simple, easy to build and if built right would give the owner many years of service. Needless to say I am collecting the most information I can about him, and I was wondering if you gentlemen could tell me in your opinion, who on this website are the formost and most knowledgeable (sp) about him. Thank you in advance . Dr.

Quote from: Dr on July 29, 2008, 09:54:49 AM
Hi: Im new to this forum, and I think there is a lot of cool stuff here, I had no Idea there were so many people looking for so many different free energy devices. I have spent the last week going through the different topics and  am truly amazed. I must admit the one that intrigues me the most is that story about a Mr. Bessler. I mean if ever there was a true free energy device, that would be it, simple, easy to build and if built right would give the owner many years of service. Needless to say I am collecting the most information I can about him, and I was wondering if you gentlemen could tell me in your opinion, who on this website are the formost and most knowledgeable (sp) about him. Thank you in advance . Dr.

I am sorry to say it. But there aren't any one Free Energy or OU devices that really works.
It's only wasting the time and materials to replicate these machines.

Howdy Dr,

Don't listen to Onlov.  He doubts because he has had no personal successes.  There is a wide array of devices that can utilize what is commonly referred to as "free" energy.  They are everywhere, in all forms.  I personally am into solid state electrical devices, don't know much about Bessler.  But you can do a forum search for "Bessler" and that will lead you to all the threads where the Bessler Wheels are.  You can find plenty of information there...

Onlov, shame on you!  If you do not think that this is possible, stay off this website...

Blessed Be Brothers...

Quote from: onlov on July 29, 2008, 10:23:22 AM
I am sorry to say it. But there aren't any one Free Energy or OU devices that really works.
It's only wasting the time and materials to replicate these machines.

Actually there are a shit ton of these devices.. Solar, wind , hydro/wave are examples.. A windmill will produce abundant amounts of FE over a long period of time.. Same with solar and hydroafter the intial cost of there construction.

Quote from: z.monkey on July 29, 2008, 10:37:47 AM
Howdy Dr,

Don't listen to Onlov.  He doubts because he has had no personal successes.  There is a wide array of devices that can utilize what is commonly referred to as "free" energy.  They are everywhere, in all forms.  I personally am into solid state electrical devices, don't know much about Bessler.  But you can do a forum search for "Bessler" and that will lead you to all the threads where the Bessler Wheels are.  You can find plenty of information there...

Onlov, shame on you!  If you do not think that this is possible, stay off this website...

Blessed Be Brothers...

Sorry but I need some example which devices really works as overunity. Please tell me!

Quote from: onlov on July 29, 2008, 11:18:09 AM
Sorry but I need some example witch devices really works as overunity. Please tell me!

I already gave you some ideas on FE.. So you switched your argument to OU.. Well here it is..Nuclear Reactions. You need a device for you meager self.. Well Nuclear power plant is one, nuclear bomb is another, nuclear submarines.. The list goes on and on.. Just try to be a bit more open minded.. OU has been around for a while and is a proven concept. Weither you actually have a OU device in your house does not mean it does not exist.

Hell go make yourself a earth battery and harvest the power for a year and you will see you got more power out than power you put in to it.

Howdy Onlov,

He we go!  Henry Moray's Radiant Energy device produced over 50 Kilowatts.  Nicola Tesla's Radiant Energy Receiver is legendary, he is the Father of Free Energy.  Alfred M. Hubbard's AC Generator powered a boat around Portage Bay, Washington.  These are just the classics.  In modern times there are many, many more.  Steven Marks TPU seems to be very popular on this website.  There is Leedskalnin's PMH, he was able to do amazing things with free energy, check out Coral Castle.  He built a perpetual AC generator for it.  There are many small machines that are able to sustain them selves a long time if not perpetually.

Now look at this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY-AS13fl30

That is a Monster Tesla Coil in Oklahoma.  It is not self powered or perpetual, but it does graphically show the power of radiant energy.  The Tesla Coil pulls radiant energy out of the atmosphere and makes an impressive light and sound show.

There are many more examples I could show you, but don't have time.  So go look on your own.  Examples are everywhere.  Have fun with that...

Blessed Be Brothers...

z.monkey:

QuoteHe we go!  Henry Moray's Radiant Energy device produced over 50 Kilowatts.  Nicola Tesla's Radiant Energy Receiver is legendary, he is the Father of Free Energy.  Alfred M. Hubbard's AC Generator powered a boat around Portage Bay, Washington.  These are just the classics.  In modern times there are many, many more.  Steven Marks TPU seems to be very popular on this website.  There is Leedskalnin's PMH, he was able to do amazing things with free energy, check out Coral Castle.  He built a perpetual AC generator for it.  There are many small machines that are able to sustain them selves a long time if not perpetually.

Do you have some reliable evidence of OU-funktion? Youtube videos aren't reliable at all. I need just OU device like that, which produces 50kW. Where i can buy this Henry Moray's Machine?

And I want to know, how many replica devices on this forum are as overunity? I am 99,99% sure there are not at all like that...

Howdy Onlov,

If we could buy Henry Moray's Radiant Energy Device I don't think we would go to so much trouble trying to replicate it and others like it.  Fact is Henry Moray was threatened, intimidated, shot at, and ultimately he destroyed all of his devices because of Evil Greedy Men.  The Moray Radiant Energy Device is Suppressed Technology, that is why we want it so bad...

I am sure there are many OU devices in these forums, I haven't explored them all.  I am building the Hubbard Coil.  Look at the Hubbard Coil and Infinity Coil threads...

I am not going to continue trying to convince you.  You will come to this realization sooner or later, but you will have to do it on your own.  I am not here to convince doubters.  I am here to implement Radiant Energy devices.

We are way off topic here, back to 2012, and the benevolent aliens...

Blessed Be Brothers...

Free Energy: YES it certainly does exist (and i don't mean stiffing the electric company for 2 months bill when you move to a new town ;) )  The easiest & cheapest one i know of to build that will give good results is Imhotep's brushless DC radiant charger; but his fluorescent bulb experiment may even be better.

Joe Newman: A brilliant guy with a real, working free energy invention, but he watches the History Channel too much ;) . In one of his seminars he talks about the law of inverse reactions, then totally forgets about it when discussing the power of the lined-up magnetic fields of the planets. The effect would be terrifically weak... Probably less than a sun sport storm from the sun which happens all the time.  And the idea that other star systems hundreds of light years away would have magnetic effect is even more bizarre. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs tho.

I really wish he could do more with his new 400 lb device, and give us all here the schematics and specs for it. He needs to get some stats of it published... Like how many watts it will produce when configured for power out, vs. power in . then we can REALLY help him.  He should realize by now... After 40 years of being ignored, that the only way he's ever gonna get this thing out there is if he Open Sources it. He screwed around with the creeping truck, and then the MG, and that didn't help. Nobody gets that or gets the 17,000 lb water pump idea idea either. What they will "get" is real power out vs. power in figures.  We can help him: But he has to let us do that. 1970's figures and testimonials arn't good enough; we want 2008 stats on the new 400 pounder.,.

What i don't like about this 2012 thing is that to believe everything is fated helps those who are trying to control you... If you think it's all gonna happen anyway, why bother fighting back when they steal your liberties, rob you blind, ruin the ecology of the planet, and continue to deny us cheap energy? Ask yourselves why the History Channel  (owned by Time Warner a part of corporate-owned MSM) replays these many doomsday shows over and over and over again.   

Thanks Guys for the heads up, I will do as you say and do a search and see if i can find some fellow believers of Mr. Bessler.  Dr.

@Onlov - I will never ever understand why so many people here on OU claim OU is impossible - what the hell are they (and you) doing here then!!!  I have zero interest in the likes of train-spotting, but I do not search out sites like these and post hundreds of messages telling them that I think their passion is naff, yet this is exactly what the nay-sayers here do, some expending enormous effort in doing so (eg. arch-skeptic PurePower was averaging 13 emails daily, some dozens of lines long!)  Suspicious, to say the least...

@Dr - search out Alexioco's posts, one of the few that is willing to share all his Bessler research.

Quote from: Sprocket on July 29, 2008, 06:05:57 PM
@Onlov - I will never ever understand why so many people here on OU claim OU is impossible - what the hell are they (and you) doing here then!!!  I have zero interest in the likes of train-spotting, but I do not search out sites like these and post hundreds of messages telling them that I think their passion is naff, yet this is exactly what the nay-sayers here do, some expending enormous effort in doing so (eg. arch-skeptic PurePower was averaging 13 emails daily, some dozens of lines long!)  Suspicious, to say the least...

@Dr - search out Alexioco's posts, one of the few that is willing to share all his Bessler research.

I hope You find Ou machine which really works!  ;) I have finded any at all. Internet and youtube is fully of nonsenses of OU.  :( Good luck for searching for working Ou device!

Hi guys!

I think onlov in some way represents what most of us free-energy junkies feel at times. The only difference is he's openly and aggressively detracting people -- which can really piss people off, even the good ones.

Onlov, I personally think we need good critics to point out design flaws and stuff -- but don't please don't overdo it because everyone here in this forum is very excited to discover free energy and the last thing we need is someone who keeps saying it can't be done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4psWAvKRnU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzB0WBHjJhM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHhNywNzQGk

No disrespect to Joseph Newman, or to any prophecies... But if he believes the world is going to end on December 21 - 2012, then why is he participating in the quest for free energy ?. Would'nt he see the quest for free energy as a waste of time ?

60 minutes version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXW_vzQppGI

a scientific explanation for 2012 from Arthur P. Summera

it is all about the Central Sun

quote from electrinium.pdf chap 3

you can get it here
<http://www.nuenergy.org/pdf/electrinium.pdf>

Quote...

In a study of the way Nature uses its electrical forces we should he mindful of all the things man
has learned about the characteristics of electricity. We know that light has no heat, that heat has no
light, that there are hundreds and possibly thousands of different electrical rays, each with its ow n
function. We know that an electrical force in one direction will have an equal force of magnetic energ y
to the opposite. We know that each atom has an electrical force equal to every other atom and is in
electrical balance with every other atom when under equal heat and pressure. We know that each atom
is alive with electrical force and radiates that force in all directions.

We know that an atom under direct radiation of the Sun or other body will take on an additional
force and then radiate the additional force. We know that the radiation of a force through a pathwa y
of resistance causes heat. We know that heat causes expansion of atoms which under the law of
electrical balance throws the heated atoms out of electrical balance with cool atoms. This will
cause electrical force to flow from the cool atoms to the hot atoms. The force given up by the cool
atoms must he replaced by their neighbors. This becomes a chain reaction and a circuit of flow i n g
electricity is established. To understand this more fully make a small electro-thermo couple as
described in your encyclopedia and play with it for a few minutes using an ammeter to measure
the flow. The secret of Nature?s great power is the electrical reaction of atoms under heat or pressure
and the resulting flow of electrical energy through pathways of electrical resistance. The electronic
system of the human body is extremely sensitive to this law. The slightest compression of a coil
by the touch of a finger or the expansion of a cell by heat sends an electrical current to our brain
to alert us.
Nature?s use of these forces is mainly very gentle and the construction of this beautiful world,
with its great variety of living things a delight to behold. It is small wonder that a great many people
want to set aside great unspoiled wilderness areas for future generations because this past century has
seen man at war with God and Nature and our world is so badly torn that she may not survive.
This has happened many times in far past ages and ancient records tell of great cataclysm, of walls
of water sweeping from pole to pole. Of the Earth shaking the ice fields free from the poles and
washing it down over the lands to sweep all life clean of the Earth. There are records of great general
earthquakes, the slaking of entire continents and the raising of new ones. Just outside Mexico City
are three burled cities built on top of each other. Each was destroyed by a water cataclysm and the
following city built atop the old. This shows that the land at that time was near sea level. Today it
is seven thousand feet above sea level.
These catastrophes have been accredited to an act of God, but they were acts of nature working
under the natural laws of the Universe. A cataclysm is caused when the magnetic attraction
between the Earth, the Solar Sun and the Central Sun become out of balance. Our Solar Sun being
the closest, pulls the Earth towards it. At the point of twenty-three and a half degrees from the due
north the balance again changes, the Sun loses its power to hold the Earth off center and the Earth
lurches back into position. It is this quick lurch that spills the oceans over the land and swoops it
clean of all life for a new start. The last time it happened it broke all the ice deposits loose around
the North Pole and washed them down over North America. The great Ice Age that was supposed
to have, occurred twelve to sixteen thousand years ago wasn?t an ice age at all. It occurred almost
instantaneously by a cataclysmic action of the Earth. At the same time a great wall of water rushed
from the South Pole over the other side of the Earth, washing all life ahead of it into the Arctic
Ocean. The Arctic Ocean is a graveyard of past life and it happened so quickly that many of bodies
were quickly frozen and when dug up today are in perfect preservation.
...

Quote from: Digits on July 28, 2008, 02:20:39 PM
thanks ramset man you are so right i think there are 900 diffrent christian believes who do i believe.
i think if we search hard enough we will find the right way.though one thing i somtimes wonder do you guys think that this earth wil sustain us for another 50-100 years.the end will have to come sometime.

i just fear that the day we see Los Angeles sink it is allready too late.

900 Christian beliefs? Nope. If they don't believe Christ is the son of God and the path to eternal life then they ARE NOT CHRISTIAN.

Mormons aren't Christian,  Unitarians aren't Christian, Even some that hide under the banner of United church of Christ, (like Obama's racist church in Chicago) aren't Christian.  NO baptism? Not a Christian. No communion? Not a Christian.

Profess that Jesus Christ is the son of God, get baptized and accept his blood and body, be born again, accepting his new covenant,  then stick to his Holy Gospel (word), don't get confused by those who preach the old bible and old covenant law. A Christian is bound by the new covenant, not the old.

"Make sure that no one traps you and deprives you of your freedom by some secondhand, empty, rational philosophy based on the principles of
this world instead of on Christ." Colossians 2:6-8

"This people honors me only with lip-service, while their hearts are far from me. The worship they offer me is worthless; the doctrines they teach are only human regulations." (Matt.15:8-9).

"You must not love this passing world or anything that is in the world. The love of the Father cannot be in any man who loves the world, because nothing the world has to offer -- the sensual body, the lustful eye, pride in possessions -- could ever come from the Father but only from the world; and the world, with all it craves for, is coming to an end; but anyone who does the will of God remains forever." (1 Jn.2:15-17).

"Remember the maxim: 'Keep to what is written."  (1 Cor.4:6).


Now, as far as Newman goes, the guy is a complete fraud. He has scammed poor gullible people out of millions. This guy is NOT a Christian, he's a Muslim con artist.  He uses Christian talk to sucker in his intended victims, then plays the usual "MIB, government agents supressing me, etc etc. scam artist play book. Always check the list of " free energy scam artists" for these guy's history of scams, how they manage to escape the law by changing names, moving to different states, leving a trail of victims.

Quote from: Sprocket on July 28, 2008, 05:22:59 PM
Just wondering if anyone has dreams about any of this?  I have had several, over as many years, all involving water (lots of it!).  In the latest, I am watching a massive wave, still several miles away, heading for my home.  Another dream involves watching mass UFO landings. (hundreds, they're everywhere)  Is there anyone having similar dreams? - or should I just go back on the lithium! :D

All this gore-bull warming stuff, melting ice caps causing world flooding is a bunch of bunk.  There is no human caused global warming. CO2 is NOT a pollutant.  Global warming is nothing but a scam a vehicle to bring in world governance run by elite liberal/marxist dictators.

CO2 is one of the most abundant elements on earth, have you forgotten your grade 3 science?

to find that the majotity of scientists DO NOT support the global warming BS, check out thier site. Who are some of them? The same ones who's report (altered) was used by the  UN to begin this Koyoto accord scam.

http://www.friendsofscience.org/


About "the end of the world":

Read prophecy, it tells you how the end of the world comes about.

Here's a good place to give you an idea of what prophecy says, the signs that are right under our noses that you just can't see , largley because you haven't been looking for it.  After all, how would you know to look for if you've never read bible prophecy to begin with.

"The lasts days of Babylon" http://goodnewspirit.com/babylonintro.htm

Funny, you quote me but your post has no bearing on what I asked!  Also, your "born-again" christian zeal makes it clear that you believe only one reference to prophecy has merit - were the bible "word-perfect" (as you seem to suggest) and our only source of inspiration, we would be out looking for unmarried women who weren't virgin-pure to stone to death, not to mention the many other 'suspect' truths it advocates...

I would agree with you about the co2 thing though - imo, this is just a natural cycle the earth periodically goes through.  However, that does not alter the fact that whenever co2 has been this high in the past, an ice-age was in the offing - somethnig to bear in mind...

Whether or not you believe in the change being man-made or not... There really is no serious argument for global warming not happening: The Arctic Ocean being cleared of ice... The Greenland, Antarctic, and other glaciers melting, and the millions of square miles of "permafrost" tundra that have melted in Canada, Alaska, Scandinavia, and Siberia are proofs of it that even the most fervent "unbelievers" can't get away with denying.

Whatever political motives and undertones people insist on loading this issue with are besides the point of the existence of it happening. Blame the sun if you wish (although there is yet no real proof for this), but it is happening whether you like to hear about it or not.

Here is an irrefutable example of man-made change to our climate (but one even Gore and his people never talk about):

Around every city, there is a 2 or 3 degree rise in temperature from the surrounding countryside (or more). This is due to the albedo reflection of sunlight from roof tops and asphalt vs. natural landscape, as well as from industrial heat sources. This temp differential is more noticeable at night (because the man-made stuff holds heat better). You can see this shown every day on any local TV weather map showing urban areas. Considering how "urbanized" our world is becoming, with thousands more square miles being developed for habitation every year, it's an important and growing factor. But since nothing can realistically be done about it... Its not a cause celeb like carbon is.

There is a lot misinformation on both sides of this debate; and there indeed may be something to what you say about us ALL being manipulated: Imo, it is being pushed as a polarizing and dividing factor to keep the Progressive Left and the Libertarians from combining forces against the corporate fascists in power. As long as these two groups who agree on many things "dangerous" to the status quo are kept from forming a political coalition; the bad guys have nothing to worry about... Because they already "own" the  mainstream political parties. They keep us arguing among ourselves and just sit back and laugh at how predictable we are ;)

But that doesn't mean that global warming isn't happening for whatever reason: Or that the implied suggestion that we should do nothing about it is right either.  For instance: We all have a vested interest in keeping the sea levels where they are now... Even if you live well inland, believe me huge coastal flooding would ruin your day too...And be the cause of untold wars, very deadly pollution to the oceans, literally billions of displaced people, famine, economic ruin / global depression, you name it. Technology could solve this problem of rising oceans; if we can ever get over the petty squabbling (...and if they ever let us have free energy).

Current articles  http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/08/01/abrupt-climate-change.html?dcitc=w01-101-ae-0003

                         http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/07/30/ice-sheet-canada.html

Howdy Y'all,

All the weird things that are happening right now are all part of Heaven's Plan. Ascended Masters, Angels, and Archangels are directly in control of your future.  Man has been in control of this planet for the last 2000 years and look at what a horrendous mess he has made.  Heaven has intervened on the behalf of the man of the future and is correcting all the unbelievable problems we have caused.   All of you that are just sitting back and watching need to get with the plan.  The evil are being eliminated, and the meek shall inherit the Earth.  We are experiencing an event which is totally miraculous.  It is time that you trust GOD, and forget about what is written.  The Earth is returning to the paradise that it was intended to be.  There will be considerable changes.  Most of what we consider to be "reality" is going to change.  "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is done in Heaven."  Does this sound familiar?  It should, these are the words of GOD.  This is what HE expected us to do.  What did we do with our own volition?  That is too sick to mention.  So, hang on, trust GOD, and be ready for a brilliant new future.  It is YOUR destiny...

Blessed Be Brothers...

Quote from: Sprocket on August 03, 2008, 11:25:33 AM
Funny, you quote me but your post has no bearing on what I asked!  Also, your "born-again" christian zeal makes it clear that you believe only one reference to prophecy has merit - were the bible "word-perfect" (as you seem to suggest) and our only source of inspiration, we would be out looking for unmarried women who weren't virgin-pure to stone to death, not to mention the many other 'suspect' truths it advocates...

Really? Where does the gospel say that?  And yes, there is only one source of inspiration for the gospels- Jesus Christ!  You can find the 'word' (gospel) in the New testament section in any king James version bible. <p>

And by all means, name the "suspect truths" you seem to think it contains.  Or just copy and past the anti Christian  sites you source from. ;D

Perhaps you should read them, and quit confusing the OT with the gospel of Christ.

Quote from: z.monkey on August 03, 2008, 09:56:42 PM
Howdy Y'all,

All the weird things that are happening right now are all part of Heaven's Plan. Ascended Masters, Angels, and Archangels are directly in control of your future.  Man has been in control of this planet for the last 2000 years and look at what a horrendous mess he has made.  Heaven has intervened on the behalf of the man of the future and is correcting all the unbelievable problems we have caused.   All of you that are just sitting back and watching need to get with the plan.  The evil are being eliminated, and the meek shall inherit the Earth.  We are experiencing an event which is totally miraculous.  It is time that you trust GOD, and forget about what is written.  The Earth is returning to the paradise that it was intended to be.  There will be considerable changes.  Most of what we consider to be "reality" is going to change.  "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is done in Heaven."  Does this sound familiar?  It should, these are the words of GOD.  This is what HE expected us to do.  What did we do with our own volition?  That is too sick to mention.  So, hang on, trust GOD, and be ready for a brilliant new future.  It is YOUR destiny...

Blessed Be Brothers...

Hogwash.

Christ's millennium has already passed.  His rule was through  his church for the past 2000 years. Never mind this  new age church- he's coming to rule for yet another 1000 years stuff.<p>

Try reading revelation for yourself instead of listening to somebody's twisted version (like jack van ipe's) version of it.

If you need it explained, go here: http://goodnewspirit.com/babylon.htm

Howdy Sparky345,

Aw, your just zealous...

Blessed Be Brothers...

@Sparky345
I think you have been brain washed  ::) .. keep an open mind.

@all
"DOOMSDAY!!   December 21st, 2012"  Hehe.. I'll come back to this thread January 1st, 2013!  ;D ;)

Jason

Back already... only 33% of the worlds population is Christian.. so according to Sparky345, not all the people who think that they are Christian are not.. so now that percentage goes down even more.. So of the worlds population only 20% are true Christians?  I guess that 80% of the world is going to hell?  What kind of GOD would do that?

Jason

I am thinking that Jesus was mis understood as well as the Bible, it was supposed to be a history book and a way to pass along info to the people but was corrupted by those who want power over the masses. IMO I believe the base of all religions is to treat each other with respect and pursue spirituality. But those who want power over the masses have corrupted the message.

Quote from: starcruiser on August 05, 2008, 07:38:54 PM
I am thinking that Jesus was mis understood as well as the Bible, it was supposed to be a history book and a way to pass along info to the people but was corrupted by those who want power over the masses. IMO I believe the base of all religions is to treat each other with respect and pursue spirituality. But those who want power over the masses have corrupted the message.

Totally agree.. "But those who want power over the masses have corrupted the message."... also using fear to control people.

I believe there is a great change coming and those in power know this and do not want the masses to know otherwise they lose control.

We have been warned of the road we travel and the consequences of our actions, this info was not shared as it should of been. we are wandering without guidance do to lack of information. Question everything, make up your own minds! Do not look for answers from your government or religious leaders, they do  not know or want to know.

Prepare yourselves for the coming change to our planet.

Global warming is just one of the indicators of the coming change, all planets in our system are experiencing this warming. The Governments are just trying to distract you with the CO2 BS they are spouting. They know what is coming, remember knowledge is power and they have it and do not want to share it.

That is just one of their tools they use... FEAR

Quote from: 4Tesla on August 05, 2008, 07:51:40 PM
Totally agree.. "But those who want power over the masses have corrupted the message."... also using fear to control people.

I disagree about the CO2.. it is contributing to global warming.. it may not be the only cause for global warming, but it is part of the cause.

Jason

Howdy Y'all,

I follow a new fangled religion, its called The Truth!  If GOD was to step foot in the USA he would be arrested by Immigration for Illegal Trespassing.  The same goes for all the Angels and Archangels.  The totally ignorant idiots that hold power do not have the public's interest in minds whatsoever.  They are there simply to steal all the money that they can.  Then they leave the country as fast as possible.  All of them should be hanged by the neck for treason.

Yes, there is a Great Change Coming, and the politician are not going to like it.  They will be dead!

Blessed Be Brothers...

hey you guys
I agree with Sparky 345 not all that say they are Christian are Christians and unfortunately there are peeps out there that give us Christians bad name but Jesus did day false Christs will arise.
now cant remember who's said that we should only need to baptize and believe and thats all. i tend to disagree a little.
if you read in Galatians you find he speaks of Predestination before the foundation of the world.(EPHESIANS 1:5
     5    Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, )
and (EPHESIANS 1:11
     11    In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will)
this plainly says that he chose you before you where born(ROMANS 9:13
     13    As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. )

i know this is harsh but some are created for hell and they cannot be saved even if they tried.
but the others will be saved no matter what (I PETER 1:2
     2    Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father)

if you follow the bible you will also see that the mercy seat keeps on moving and those that don't move with it get judged.
Cain and Abel offered at the altar but when the Lord said get into the ark(Noah's ark) you can offer at that altar as much as you want judgement struck,the only one receiving mercy was Noah his family(notice the Lord said to Noah COME into the ark,not go into,meaning he(the Lord )was there in the ark.
then it shifted to the tabernacle then to Jesus'blood shed if you now worshiped in the ark or tabernacle it was death.

it goes on in the seven seals in revelation

not many will be saved guys there was 8 souls saved in Noahs day

thanks for somany ears and posts

Howdy Digits,

I am not knocking Sparky345, just saying he is zealous, not a bad thing.  The Bible and Christian philosophy do not have all the information.  I have studied the Bible extensively, especially Revelations.  Michael makes war with the Dragon and ultimately defeats the Dragon.  What I am saying is that there are other sources of information which you need to assimilate as well.  There is a story about the True Knowledge.  There are 13 Lineal Keys which are needed to unlock the Ark of True Knowledge.  These 13 Lineal Keys are spread over the face of the Earth.  First you must FIND they keys, which are hidden in the philosophy of every major religion.  Then you must FIND the Ark of True Knowledge.  Then you may have the answers.  We are all on a quest to figure out what True Knowledge is first.  This is much like the Alchemists Stone where the pursuit of transmutation of base metals in gold transmutes the Alchemist's Spirit into Gold.  Keep digging, keep learning, keep experimenting, eventually you will have all the keys and be able to understand everything.

Blessed Be Brothers...

Everytime I turn on my self resonant coils the heavens cry out 'Holy', 'Holy', 'Holy'.

Heterodyning or 'One ringy dingy, two ringy, dingy, three ringy, dingy' ?

Take the galactic arm of the Milky Way we are in and cut cross wise. Place the Mayan calendar at the cross-section with the top or main point pointing towards the galactic center. The cross-section is now marked off by quadrants each represented by squares / windows. The windows are connected in pairs on both sides of the center. The connections don't touch the center and are clearly visible. They represent the 2 points of our sine wave path that are at 90 degrees out and the farthest point from the galatic plane/ midline.

Noah: 'It's going to rain!'
1st son:: 'What is that?'
Noah: 'Get in the arc, now'
Now why do you think that story is in the Bible (Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth) ?

Google video David Flynn length 56mins.

I have always seen the stories in the Bible as parallels to our stupidity and pride.
If you go back and reread what Jesus did you will find that he made a mockery of any peoples problems or ignorance. He just did not joke about it.

--giantkiller. Believe what you want but know rain when I smell it.

Howdy Giantkiller,

Smells like rain here too, only here it is Hurricane Ike.
Have you ever noticed that the top view of a hurricane looks like a galaxy?

Blessed Be...

Hey,
Yep. I always prefer the top view. And the topside is always clear because all the matter is below.

Shiver me timbers! You get washed out to sea, laddie?

--giantkiller

DOOMSDAY? How about this?

Can somebody explain this to me?

Go to the homepage or any page of this forum and View the HTML sourcecode.
Rigth mouseclick, View Source.

And then wait until Notepad opens and scroll all the way down in Notepad and read the last 15 lines.

What the CRAP is that??? 


Spider.

Howdy Spider,

Whoops, looks like somebody (Stefan) got hacked...

Blessed Be...

Quote from: z.monkey on September 11, 2008, 05:20:11 PM
Howdy Spider,

Whoops, looks like somebody (Stefan) got hacked...

Blessed Be...

It is fixed now.

Regards, Stefan.