HI FOLKS, THIS TOPIC IS TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE MAGNETIC MOTOR DESIGNED BY JOHN CHRISTIE. THE U TUBE TITLE BEING " FREE ENERGY-NO FUEL MAGNETIC MOTOR" "youtube.com/watch?v=SvB3PiPBozU" THE VIDEO IS IMPRESSIVE, I'VE TRIED TO MAKE CONTACT WITH "LUTEC PTY AUSTRALIA" TO GET MORE DETAILS BUT AS YET I'VE HAD NO REPLIES TO MY MAIL. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS DEVICE HAS BEEN RESEARCHED BY A.T.S. BUT IF IT DOES WHAT THEY SAY IT WILL DEFINITELY BE WORTH TAKING A LOOK AT.
BEING NEW TO THIS SITE I DON'T KNOW YET WHO TO TALK TO REGARDING THIS ISSUE,PLEASE REPLY HERE OR TO MY PERSONAL MAIL.
KIND REGARDS TO ALL EDDY
The Lutec guys are scammers looking for easy and stupid investers.
They have been around for long and if they had a working OU motor for real they would of course make a self runner out of it.
Potentiell investers could then examine the setup to see for themselves if the motor was a true closed loop self runner.
But they never showed any self runner, because their motor was not OU and this would show them being fakers.
Quote from: Ergo on June 17, 2008, 09:05:27 AMThe Lutec guys are scammers looking for easy and stupid investers.
Where's your
proof?
Quote from: orbs on June 17, 2008, 10:02:20 AM
Where's your proof?
Lutec refuses to demo their system connected to a capacitor bank rather then batteries. Why?
It wouldn't work, because CF cold fusion occurs in batteries not in capacitors. CF is the source of
their overunity not their Magnetic Motor. They don't have the guts to admit it...and so they languish.
S:MarkSCoffman
There was a thread not too long ago (self running 900W generator, or somethig in that respect) where someone quite elaborately explained how it is possible to drain those last bits of energy out of a "dead" battery using a pulsed circuit. It might run for a while, but it's definitely not overunity.
HI FOLKS,
THANKS FOR THE REPLIES; I GUESS THEN THAT JOHN CHRISTIE AND LUTEC INDUSTRIES (OR .COM) IS A SCAM TOO?
PARDON ME PLEASE, BUT WHO WAS IT WHO MADE CONTACT? WHERE'S THE REPORT ON THE MOTOR? CAN ANY OF YOU CONFIRM 100% THAT YOU KNOW IT'S A HOAX ...NOT KNOWING THE HISTORY OF THIS EXPOSURE CAN ANYBODY DIRECT ME TO A SOURCE OR PERSON WITH THE WHOLE STORY. RECENT HISTORY APPEARS TO BE FULL OF PEOPLE BEING BOUGHT ,THREATENED OR WORSE .
KIND REGARDS SUSPICIOUS EDDY
Sorry; I don't mean to imply that I think Lutec is a hoax. More that it falls into
a grey area where definitions don't fit exactly. I would like to see Lutec succeed
but I do not think they can do what they initially claimed. If they would simply accept
what they can do, admit that, and build their system around it. I think they could build
a successful, shippable, though somewhat more expensive product. On the other hand
they seem to have taken a course of waiting, hoping someone will invent someting
to bail them out. Everything I say here is surmised rather than measured, but with
plenty of experience behind it. What I've suggested in the previous post is the first
place I would study for a product flaw. I do think that they would have been successfull
by now if they are able to do what they have claimed.
Prove me wrong, ship a million of 'em and make a fortune... Good Luck.
S:MarkSCoffman
HI S.MARK,
THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLY; POINTS DIGESTED. I'D STILL LIKE TO KNOW IF A.T.S. HAS CONTACTED LUTEC AND MADE AN INDEPENDENT VALUATION OF THEIR MOTOR GENERATOR?
I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT A.T.S. AND ASSOCIATED SITES AND FORUMS DON'T SEEM TO PUBLISH AN INDEX OF THE SUBJECT MATTER WHICH HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED. SOMEBODY LIKE ME THAT IS RELATIVELY NEW TO THIS MEDIA IT SEEMS WASTES A LOT OF TIME CHECKING OUT THE INFORMATION ON VARIOUS SUBJECTS ONLY TO FIND IT'S OLD NEWS. OF COURSE BEING NEW AND INEXPERIENCED IN THESE AREAS THERE MAY WELL BE AN AREA WHICH DEALS WITH WHAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED THUS FAR. IF YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS PLEASE MAIL ME. IF NOT PERHAPS YOU CAN DIRECT ME TO MAIL SOMEBODY WHO IS IN CONTROL OF THESE ISSUES.
ALL GOOD WISHES FOR OUR SUCCESS EDDY
Does anyone know if they have filed a patent yet as they claimed to have done a year ago. If so what is the number.
It they have filed a patent then it's not available to the public domain until granted or denied.
But I strongly disbelieve any patent statements from the scamming Lutec's.
US Patent
http://www.google.com/patents?id=gdgNAAAAEBAJ&dq=6630806
Lutec patents page:
http://www.lutec.com.au/patents.htm
Thanks Oc! That patent makes an interesting read. Does anyone know of a thread or website where people are seriously trying to replicate this machine? I'm quite interested in finding out other's experienced thoughts before having a go at it myself.
The Lutec guys have always refused any independent testing of their motor
and this tells you they are fakers and don't want any possible investers to
know the truth.
I they indeed had found overunity they should be longing for a serious test
of their motor that would prove them right and attract real funding money .
But of course they are fakers. If not the motor would be tested by now.
Quote from: Ergo on April 25, 2009, 11:32:43 AM
The Lutec guys have always refused any independent testing of their motor
and this tells you they are fakers and don't want any possible investors to
know the truth.
From what I have read they are fully funded and currently looking for end users... Sounds promising to me, and their is enough evidence out there showing OU is possible, if they have tied all the bits and pieces together into a pulse motor... good for them. Personally I would love to have a go at figuring it out too. (only thing is I might be more public with a solution ;D)
If you believe they really have found overunity 9 years ago and is still not showing anything except
seeking end users (which is no problem in finding) you are truly a hopefull and very gullible person.
Dose anyone know the current position on lutec are the still in existance and contactable
Try yourself, but you better have some cash to offer or you won't see any replies.....
Quote from: Ergo on April 26, 2009, 06:30:57 AM
If you believe they really have found overunity 9 years ago and is still not showing anything except
seeking end users (which is no problem in finding) you are truly a hopefull and very gullible person.
Thanks Ergo for your reply, 9 years is not that long for r&d when limited to a crew of 2 and only have hobbie hours to put into it, however I have seen enough other products in my time that had some cool led lights on a box cover that I can understand your position. What I was really after was if anyone know of anyone who has currently worked along similar lines as these guys. I suspect there are awesome answers very close to the area they are working in regardless of whether or not Lutec has struck gold or not.
Here's a test report on the Lutec contrapment.
Quote: http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Lutec1000/
Rosenthal and Cole
Report by Sterling D. Allan
March 8, 2003
Engineers, Walt Rosenthal and Parke Cole were invited to measure the Lutec1000 in January 2001.
Their measurements showed results showed 28% efficiency.
The exchange was amendable, despite the negative test results.
Rosenthal stated, "I walked them through the calculations carefully so they would understand,
but they didn't want to believe the results." Test entailed a dynamometer measuring output the motor,
powering with power supply from wall producing DC volts, optical shaft encoder on end of shaft to measure rpm.
Results showed 50 Watts power going in and 14 Watts equivalent of mechanical power coming out.
After receiving the above synopsis, Walt Rosenthal added the following:
Report by Walt Rosenthal
(recorded March 8, 2003)
The inventors would start with fully charged batteries for the demonstration.
They assumed that the battery terminal voltage would decrease linearly as the battery was used.
So, after using the battery for, say, 30 minutes, they would again measure the battery terminal voltage,
and subtract this value from the start voltage, then multiply that difference voltage times the known amp-hour
capacity of the battery bank, to come up with their assumption of the total energy consumed from the battery bank.
Unfortunately, battery terminal voltage is almost flat for perhaps 90 percent of the battery capacity, before it
drops off rather steeply for the last 10 percent of it's capacity.
Parke Cole and I tried to explain this to the inventors. I am not sure we succeeded.
We were about the 15th group of people to show up on their door step after they went public.
We were the first people to bring our own test equipment.
The inventors said that the first people to show up were the Russian Mafia.
Our bottom line was 50 watts of DC power input, which resulted in 14 watts of rotary mechanical power output.
I hope the inventors have improved their device from where we tested it so that it now matches their statements of it's performance.
End Quote:
Please see the attached PDF on a serious and revealing Lutec Investigation.
Their motor is only 33% efficient........
Thanks guys for the reply. Ergo that article was very enlightening and tends to confirm my personal suspicion that the inventors truly believe in their product and have very likely seen some form of phenomena yet are struggling to exploit it beyond a quirky observation. Just wish I had known about these guy last time I was in their area to go diving... :-\
Hi everyone,
BEWARE OF THIS SCAM WEBSITE, DO NOT BUY SO CALLED: FREE POWER BLUEPRINTS... IT'S FAKE!!!
http://www.freepowerblueprint.com/?hop=andrea8pet (http://www.freepowerblueprint.com/?hop=andrea8pet)
Here is a detailed story for you here:
Yesterday I saw a video on Youtube about lutec energy amplifier http://www.lutec.com.au/index.htm (http://www.lutec.com.au/index.htm)
and on the video had a text written about this website here http://www.freepowerblueprint.com/?hop=andrea8pet (http://www.freepowerblueprint.com/?hop=andrea8pet)
For a while I was excited "thinking that" finaly they are sharing with public free power "low cost" bluprints
Everything looks so realistic, (you may think: Is this for real?) "too good to be true"
Well this damn site is all fake here http://www.freepowerblueprint.com/?hop=andrea8pet (http://www.freepowerblueprint.com/?hop=andrea8pet)
Nicely setup to steal your $50 bucks, it's terrrible...
I almost purchased the fake plans... But for before I did that I sent a quick email to "Lutec Australia"
to find out if this website was setup by them?
Lu, send me quick email and here is what he said:
> Dear .....,
> I would say that He is a crook.
> He certainly has no associaten with us.
> Further, thank you to bring to my attention.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Lu Brits
- Show quoted text -
He then, sent me another email and he said:
> We will pass it on to our authorney who will be back by the end of next
> week.
>
> Once again thanks.
>
> LU
Further more I saw several other websites that they bought so called rights to sell the free power blueprints.
terrible they set the traps to steal enocent peoples money!
Mem.
Well Lutec has allready a Licensee of their technology:
http://www.evergreenltd.com.hk/EEI-Home.htm
Obviously a foreign inventor is convinced about the capabilities of their device.
EVERGREEN ENTERPRISE INTERNATIONAL LTD of Hong Kong owns the sole and exclusive rights to negotiate and contract all global, regional and individual country licenses to deal commercially with the EEA technology.
_________________________________________
I don't think a fraud can be commercialized this way.
@ TheCell
Thanks for the link :) Good news if it's true but I'm somewhat skeptic though.
On the Opportunity page at http://www.evergreenltd.com.hk/the-opportunity.htm they show Prototypes of the Evergreen Electricity Amplifiers.
Where's the beef?...
I can understand that they needed to setup a business which involves investors and government etc. and certainly getting world wide patents must have cost them dearly throughout the years so I can see all the years of frustration and all , but if they had a 1 KW Electricity Amplifier unit available at Walymart for $100 - 200 I'm sure people would be beating the doors down to get at them!
Why go after Mega Watt stations and Global Investors when you could make available a small unit that would please everyone in the $100 - 200 range?
The cost of investment to tackle Global Warming for individuals would be cheap and the inventors/investors would greatly increase profits by producing only one 1 KW unit available in mass quantities to the general public for acceptance of a real workable appliance, not just another prototype and investor opportunities....we are the investors! If they have the real thing :)
Regards,
Paul
Lutec has never allowed an independent test of their claims in all these years. ( I am happy to be corrected if they have) If they had something that could be validated they would be worth millions.
Because of threats of law suits I am not say they have something or not...but at least ask the right questions.
Mark
.
Quote from: Mem on July 19, 2009, 02:34:27 PM
BEWARE OF THIS SCAM WEBSITE, DO NOT BUY SO CALLED: FREE POWER BLUEPRINTS... IT'S FAKE!!!
...Further more I saw several other websites that they bought...
Most of the scam websites are pretty easy to spot, they usually roll-out sites that scroll-down with the whole message/pitch on one page so you don't have to click any links and generally follow a format that goes something like this:
Pitch
testemonials
guarantee
special price
time limit
buy-now
follow-up
...all on the same page.
If you use Firefox, install Flagfox so you can do instant whois-lookups on suspect sites.
Check the phone-number and contact info for this site...:
Whois Record
Registration Service Provided By: NameCheap.com
Contact:
Visit: http://www.namecheap.com/
Domain name: freepowerblueprint.com
Registrant Contact:
Vrc
Vince Martela ()
Fax:
Dzon
Skopje, MK 1000
MK
Administrative Contact:
Vrc
Vince Martela ()
+1.34
Fax: +1.5555555555
Dzon
Skopje, MK 1000
MK
Technical Contact:
Vrc
Vince Martela ()
+1.34
Fax: +1.5555555555
Dzon
Skopje, MK 1000
MK
Tony
.
For example cold fusion heater , that works with a catalyst consisting a palladium electrode.
You can realize the whole process of supressing this technology until it comes up again. And those organisations that supress such a technology are mighty by destroying careers of Physicists and Inventors. There is no mental life energy left for someone who has gone through this.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4967330n&tag=related;photovideo
When you have seen the film , you can easily imagine the way it is done , and how the lutec guys where evt. been treated.
Now there are a few institutes like
Univerity of Missouri
Israel Energetics Technologies
Pentagon
that confirm that this cold fusion heater works with giving
excess heat.
So announcement has a official character and it seems to me that there is a break through since Obama is president.
Maybe lutec should go on with their plans in the US and seek
a institute for confirming their device LEA working as claimed.
Hi Folks, Well it seems that the admin haven't read these threads. I'm still waiting to be contacted regarding any conformation that an over-unity generator is more than just a dream. What about the generator being built in budapest, by all accounts that utilizes the back e.m.f. and is supposed to operate at over 100% efficiency, or is this just more dis-information?
I thought you might be interested in this reply from a chinese designer who by all accounts has developed a magnetic motor.
Mr. Wang Shenhe has asked me to organize a ‘pre-announcement’ demonstration at Shenzhen University in the coming weeks. He is already the vice president of a listed company. He wants to sell or pass the research and development of the less than 10 KW electricity generators for the home market to other organizations.
I deliberately included your email addresses so that you can communicate with each other first before coming to the Shenzhen University Demonstration. I want the information to be as open as possible. You are welcome to bring your cameras and recorders.
The demonstration will consist of the Lee-Tseung Lead-Out-Energy Theory and two prototypes. One will rotate for the entire period of the demonstration â€" 3 days. The other will be taken apart to show the various components. These two prototypes were developed by Mr. Sun Fujun in Shenzhen. They could not generate much electricity but could conclusively demonstrate the theory and the working principles. ltseung@hotmail.com
http://www.energyfromair.com/IOE_talk
That's all for now folks,happy hunting, Eddy
how do I contact these guys I am interested in this technology
Wow guys, you missed the funniest part about this,
look at the toy truck in the mini two foot warehouse !
"Image Projection of the One Megawatt Mini Power Station"
See, they have product, to bad they are miniature models.
They forgot to remove the properties from the pics too,
they were taken with a Sony CyberShot camera
then modified in Adobe Photoshop Elements V2.0, LOL !
Focal Length: 1.5 MilliMeters !
Even the date is funny:
January 17th 2078...LOL
All three "Prototype" unit pics were taken
at the exact same second too:
21:06:12 (9:06-PM)
Obviously a Photoshop paste job.
http://www.evergreenltd.com.hk/pics/EEI-Warehouse01.jpg
No matter how you toss that, credibility 0 (ZERO) :-\
thay
Just to be crystal clear, Lutec is a long running free energy investor scam. John Christie and Lou Brits started this scam in 1998 and are still scamming people twelve years later!
The Evergreen company in Hong Kong is run by Lutec, and is a front for the scam to make it look independent. When Lutec first tried their scam in 2001, they used a front company in Singapore called BANK Inc which also claimed it was 100% independent from Lutec ("BANK Inc became aware of the inventors technology and through Australian agents contacted the inventors") An investigator contacted the website designer and found that Lutec founder John Christie was the one who hired the designer to create the BANK website, so they are clearly out and out liars.
Here are two complete reports on their corporate history, bogus patents and attempts to get investors.
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/lutec1.pdf
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/lutec2.pdf
Also see http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/Company/Lutec-Australia.aspx
So ergo - no free energy, just free money for scam artists.
Quote from: wizardofmars on August 14, 2010, 07:24:12 PM
So ergo - no free energy, just free money for scam artists.
Nicely done sir ! :)
Quote from: wizardofmars on August 14, 2010, 07:24:12 PM
So ergo - no free energy, just free money for scam artists.
Why do you address Ergo?
He linked the exact same info as you did regarding the Lutec scam!
He's was not insisting on Lutec having a working device.
Ergo stated it loud and clear, no mistakes....the Lutec's are scammers.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4956.msg174546#msg174546
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4956.msg174547#msg174547
Is it possible he meant "Ergo"
the sentence connector.
not the proper name?
I mean that is,
if you can call a nickname
a proper name/noun...
As a sentence and topic connector,
and in his context it could read like this:
"So therefore, no free energy, just free money...for scam artists."
Example:
Matrix Movie - "The Architect"
"Ergo, some of my answers you will understand
and some of them you will not."
I'm just throwing that out there,
in case this was misunderstanding.
But those never happen here, right ? ::)
I was just about to gather the material to build this device. I did not buy the blueprints but here they are. Check out this PDF. I took out teh Table of Contents and the Q&A section at the end to make file small enough to upload. But the main part of the blueprint is all here.