Well it has been 5 years or so since I have been around on these lists. I took a vacation. Anyway, I have some interesting stuff to post. Some experiments and devices that you can try yourself if you are so inclined and some other stuff.
I have one easy way to produce H2 from water using only the energy of the Earth. It is pretty cool and has no moving parts. It is pretty easy to understand.
Then I have the solution to the challenge question I put out way back when about how to make water flow uphill for free so that you can produce energy from it flowing back downhill.
Also info on on-board steam reformers. I think that this is the technology that should be developed first in order to meet climate change goals on CO2 emissions and to reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
Finally, I have also figured out how to set up a system where you can get enough H2 via electrolysis to power the motor that turns the generator that produces the electricity for the electrolysis and then has energy to spare :D That was the hard one and it took a while lol
So where's the stuff dude?
I will get to posting it shortly. Just do one at a time I suppose with the more simple ones first.
Great OP. - there's a lot to live up to there. I look forward to being shown how to make water run up-hill. Is this limited to drinking-straw sized plumbing, or is it independent of scale?
It was just a question I put out on the lists to illustrate a point. The point being that you can get more energy out of something than you are actively supplying to it and it still isn't OU. I had no idea how to do it when I put the question out but set out to try to figure it out. After some blind alleys I came to a good model and never posted it lol
I like the Earth Energy based one better because it illustrates the same point and is elegant in it's simplicity.
c'mon enki
youve got us intrigued
he he
may i take a guess lol
bemf capture and redirrect to the cell sounds about the only way it could be done utializing the earth engery with out moveing parts
im just guessing
ist
cant waite to see your hard work
congrats!!!
I will try to get the first one up this coming weekend
i can bet this one is THE REAL HOAX :o
you think? Hmmmm I don't think so... Um... I tend to lay things out in nauseating detail. Once I do that it would be hard to say it is a hoax. But I suppose there is no point in debating that. If you get something useful out of what I do then good :D
c'mon enki
youve got us intrigued
i reckon you got something big
nows the time for a tesla-type to put us on track
go for it
I would love to see details on any of these claims and if they work then they sound like they would solve so many problems around the world
h2 generation for less/no energy to create it would be such a great thing to experiment with it would open many doors
and water flowing uphill, is this done via steam? or water in liquid form?
An earth battery connected to a hydrogen cell. Meets the definition of no moving parts. No promise about the actual amount of H2 - could be built on any scale, but at what capital cost?
Water can be pumped up hill - especially if you aren't promising overunity. A hydraulic ram pump can pump water uphill - as long as you have plenty of water flow (like a river).
This kind of behaviour is called "teasing". Not cool dude.
I hope you aren't intending to waste our time - there are a lot of spooks on this forum with an agenda to waste our time and effort on non-essential things to the cause of destroying the energy empires.
Quote from: enki09 on June 19, 2008, 09:03:39 PM
Well it has been 5 years or so since I have been around on these lists. I took a vacation. Anyway, I have some interesting stuff to post. Some experiments and devices that you can try yourself if you are so inclined and some other stuff.
I have one easy way to produce H2 from water using only the energy of the Earth. It is pretty cool and has no moving parts. It is pretty easy to understand.
Then I have the solution to the challenge question I put out way back when about how to make water flow uphill for free so that you can produce energy from it flowing back downhill.
Also info on on-board steam reformers. I think that this is the technology that should be developed first in order to meet climate change goals on CO2 emissions and to reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
Finally, I have also figured out how to set up a system where you can get enough H2 via electrolysis to power the motor that turns the generator that produces the electricity for the electrolysis and then has energy to spare :D That was the hard one and it took a while lol
Enki
I hope you can show us your work on these things .
Just a word to the wise .
The bait you choose will go along way in deciding what you will catch
If you use catfish bait you probably won't catch alot of pretty girls :)
You have used alot of skeptic bait here.
This thread is already seriously infested with skeptics .
It might be wise to register a new name and post your ideas as you are ready . ........without the fanfare .
That way you will end up spending lots less time defending your ides from skeptics trying to shoot your ideas down just for the joy of destroying someone else's dreams .
gary
I am not a skeptic of free energy. But i'm not so stupid to think that this forum and others like it aren't policed and harassed by people with a bigger agenda to divert attention away from the secret technologies that actually work.
The tactics to watch out for are:
1/ teasing - keeping us all waiting - breeds arguments and wastes our time - discourages real experiment
2/ championing experiments in failed technologies, or ones that aren't a real threat - plenty of evidence of this here.
3/ Ordinary conservatitive science opposition - some of this could be genuine, ie. the brainwash-ee becomes the brainwash-er. But whether sincere or deceptive, these guys fail to point out that MOST of the axioms of our science are unexplained and open to debate at the most fundamental levels.
4/ The use of modeling software - sadly, real world experimentation is being lost and we naively assume that software can take it's place. This just reinforces the logic & formulas of conservative science - without possibly accounting for new and unexpected experimental evidence. At best - we are constrained by old theory, and can never find anything new. At worse, this software could be tracking genuine free energy researchers and intentionally misleading them.
5/ Argument and personal attacks - human nature I suppose. But it's also a military tactic to divide and conquer.
IF you have some genuine free-energy concepts that actually work - the smart thing is to share them widely. Don't think for a moment that you are going to get rich quick with free energy. You are more likely to die young - or old and bitter. Depending on how you play it. There are rich powerful people who already have amazing technology, and they aren't going to let the peasants discover this for themselves. The best hope is to share any real technology quickly so it can be replicated by many people at once.
Power you own house/business first. Keep a low profile (don't ask for investors - that's loser behaviour that gets you in jail). Let other people stick their heads up out of the trenches and get them blown off. We have to be smart to get free energy to the people. Keeping stuff to yourself just isn't smart.
There is nothing that the skeptics like more than big claims that are hard to prove .
From a skeptics point of view any claim that it can't work is just common sense .......it needs no proof .
Any claim that it can work is a hoax unless you can show proof for every question that they can raise .
Any question that you can't answer is taken as a victory for the skeptics .
In my opinion there have been many good ideas lost here because a question by a skeptic could not be answered .
Just because you might not have all the answers doesn't mean your concept is not valid .
Edison tried over 2000 filaments before he found the one that we use now .....
He " invented " the lightbulb .........but it took over 2000 failed attempts before he could demonstrate it .
The skeptics here don't seem to understand this ....... they want instant proof ...... if you can't provide it .... you are branded a fraud.
gary
QuoteThen I have the solution to the challenge question I put out way back when about how to make water flow uphill for free so that you can produce energy from it flowing back downhill.
i bet this can't be proven.... this is one big duh ???
Hmmm interesting bunch of comments. :) I used to enjoy these lists because there is so much going on. Personally I like skeptics because they make you think.
No you aren't ever going to get rich from free energy lol Or much else unless you WANT to get rich and I just don't have the motivation.
So many people do delude themselves into really believing that they have some amazing invention which will save the world. It is sad. Many others just make a living deluding people who have money to waste on half baked schemes. This is also sad I suppose.
You can't save a world that doesn't want to be saved. True that.
Let's start off with a rather simple device which has been made already and which could solve all of our CO2 pollution problems as well as our dependence on foreign oil and/or the world's oil production problems. This is a simple one and we will link to all of the data necessary to back it up. It is very much about H2 from water but not via electrolysis so I may have to put it on another convo line in here.
enough with the talk... spill out "your experiments" and prove it to skeptics like me that you're not a hoax. :P
upto now, my bet is "you're still a hoax".... I would like you to prove me wrong, I dare you. :-X
Quote from: resonanceman on June 22, 2008, 12:32:56 AM
Any question that you can't answer is taken as a victory for the skeptics .
In most cases, all a skeptic asks for is a working device. When such a device cannot be demonstrated and replicated, that's when all the questions start. So if you do not want to answer a skeptic's questions, just show your working device and let others replicate, and then it will be the skeptics who will need to start answering questions. Unfortunately, no one has done this yet.
well there can be theory which is pretty sound. If it is based on known or provable facts then it would allow anyone who wants to to test the theory by following the blueprint. Like I could tell you how to make a hydrogen bomb without actually building one myself.
You take some tritium, which you can refine from water via electrolysis since tritium doesn't electrolyze. Then you enclose it. Next you need a high energy pulse from a source such as.... Oh nevermind you don't really want to know how to do that anyway lol
Washed up already...
For all you non-sceptics only ...
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:D
But seriously - claims of working free energy devices without details of the working principle deserve as much respect as the above ...
I repeat - I AM NOT A SKEPTIC OF FREE ENERGY. For me, it is simply a question of which device I intend to build. Which is why i'm looking for ideas.
But c'mon - just because we are open-minded does not mean we are completely gullible ...
I believe that trolls exist. I believe spooks frequent this forum just to waste our time and divert energy. Looks like they might have succeeded yet again ...
For the true believers - get serious. We need real results. Not teasers, trolls and time wasters.
started posting said ideas each on their own thread
^^ c'mmon I thought they were YOUR EXPERIMENTS... they were IDEAS and NOT YOUR OWN experiments dude...
you can't even post a picture or a video of what you did... you pinpointed "so-called" references (but most have read them at least once - to agree on it).... but then again YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROOF THAT YOU DID ANY OF THOSE on your own.
....so when will you admit that you're a "phoney"?
I don't have intentions of calling you names, but pardon me - you haven't proven anything yet (that you're not a hoax) from your post/s -
.... c'mmon, prove to me that my accusation are wrong :)
(...i bet you can't)