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Title: Any Working Designs?
Post by: Marctwo on July 31, 2008, 04:31:09 PM
Hi everybody,

Lots of inspirational ideas here so thanks for that... but do any of them work?  ???

I'm only just getting into this but am already quite frustrated by the amount of negative info out there.  Of the videos, articles, forums, etc. I've found, It seems about 0.1% are ongoing possibilities, 0.9% are scams and the other 99% are people saying "look world, I built this and it doesn't work!".  :(

I appreciate that there is an artistic side to this subject too;  In the sense that an elegant design can be a beautiful thing... whether it works or not.  ;)

Is there a thread or maybe a section that I've overlooked that lists proven designs?

Or could any of you guys suggest any designs that have been successfully replicated (working)?  I'm mostly looking for mechanical ideas but am really interested in anything that works.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: Dr on July 31, 2008, 04:47:31 PM
Hi Marctwo: I am pretty new here myself, so far I have found that a Howard Johnson in 1980 recieved a pattent for a magnetic motor, a guy named Brady has a working magnetic motor, click on some of those tabs right to the left of your name where you posted, FE News and JLNlabs, thats where I found them , hope this helps!?
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: Marctwo on July 31, 2008, 06:24:43 PM
Cheers Dr, I hadn't noticed those.

Lots of info there... Should keep me busy for a while.  ;D
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: AB Hammer on July 31, 2008, 08:43:10 PM
Greetings Marctwo

And welcome to the forum. I'll get back with you in a week or two.
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: JackH on July 31, 2008, 09:37:11 PM
Hello All,

This one workes.

Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: Bulbz on July 31, 2008, 09:52:07 PM
Please excuse me, while I peel my eyeballs from my monitor...  :o

JackH... Have you got a video of that working ?.
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: JackH on July 31, 2008, 10:26:43 PM
Hello Bulbz,

I am on very slow dial up, it takes me a very long time to upload a video.    It's a new motor, this is a six valve motor with two valves firing at the same time.   I expect it to do 2 or 3 HP on 300 watts.   I have old motors that produced 1/2 HP on 200 watts.

Check out::    http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2386.440.html


Later,,,,,JackH
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: Mark69 on July 31, 2008, 11:00:44 PM
Hey Jack,

That looks like some kinda motor!  Is there anyone around you that could upload a video for you that has high speed?  Are you gonna share plans on how to build?  Can you tell us more about it?

thanks,
Mark
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: madsen on July 31, 2008, 11:08:27 PM
Quote from: JackH on July 31, 2008, 10:26:43 PM
Hello Bulbz,

I am on very slow dial up, it takes me a very long time to upload a video.    It's a new motor, this is a six valve motor with two valves firing at the same time.   I expect it to do 2 or 3 HP on 300 watts.   I have old motors that produced 1/2 HP on 200 watts.

Check out::    http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2386.440.html


Later,,,,,JackH


Can you hook up this motor to a generator, then use the generator to power the motor?  In other words, can you get it to run with no outside source of electricity?
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: JackH on July 31, 2008, 11:12:56 PM
Hello All,

This motor puts out 1/3 HP on 200 Watts.

Later,,,,,JackH
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: khabe on August 01, 2008, 03:50:56 AM
Nice motor, well done!
OK - 300W - is it just motor or is it overunity? (even if not - even then OK)
My 300W motors 100 times smaller - these are not overunities of course.
Perhaps you can find out the way for video ...
regards,
khabe
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: broli on August 01, 2008, 05:03:58 AM
Quote from: khabe on August 01, 2008, 03:50:56 AM
Nice motor, well done!
OK - 300W - is it just motor or is it overunity? (even if not - even then OK)
My 300W motors 100 times smaller - these are not overunities of course.
Perhaps you can find out the way for video ...
regards,
khabe


1 horsepower is about 745 Watt. So the generator doesn't need to be even that efficient to be over unit if he only needs 300 watt to get about 2.5HP (1862.5 watt). I haven't researched the  Hilden Brandt motor so I don't know the principle it works on but I don't like the patent talk that's going on.

Oh and Marctwo, in the beginning there seems to be like a million gravity motor ideas. But once you start to dig deeper and deeper you start to see patterns and wheels that do simmiliar stuff a different way. The message is too keep thinking of new ways until you have one  ;D.
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: JackH on August 01, 2008, 10:34:31 AM
Hello All,

I recently got the full patent on the motor.


Later,,,,,,JackH
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: wizardofmars on August 01, 2008, 10:55:15 AM
Those photo's are dated 2005. In three years you haven't done a public demo? Are you claiming perpetual motion or is this just an electric motor?

The USPTO doesn't issue patents on perpetual motion devices. They do issue patents on devices that don't work all the time, so having a patent filed or granted means absolutely nothing. The USPTO archives are full of useless patents.

I'd put the percentage of scammers at much higher than 0.9% if you are talking about people who seek PR for their inventions. With a hundred or more years of scam artists like Dennis Lee, Newman, Steorn, Archer Quinn, Perendev - it always seems to end up in a call for your money. 50% is probably more accurate.
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: JackH on August 01, 2008, 02:58:48 PM
Hello wizardofmars,

It took me 6 years to get the patent on this motor.  I do not want to show it before getting the patent, that would be stupid.


Later,,,,,Jack
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: madsen on August 01, 2008, 03:07:23 PM
So, JackH, can you get this motor to self run, completely disconnected from any outside power source? 

Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: JackH on August 01, 2008, 03:15:45 PM
Hello madsen ,

I will try to get it to self run, with the new motor.   I do not have a generator yet, and am quite low on money.  It takes allot of money to build what I build.    This last motor cost me almost $3000.00 Dollars.   Including the magnets and all (2" x 2" x 2"  N48s).   The silicon steel was not cheep.


Later,,,,,,Jack
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: madsen on August 01, 2008, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: JackH on August 01, 2008, 03:15:45 PM
Hello madsen ,

I will try to get it to self run, with the new motor.   I do not have a generator yet, and am quite low on money.  It takes allot of money to build what I build.    This last motor cost me almost $3000.00 Dollars.   Including the magnets and all (2" x 2" x 2"  N48s).   The silicon steel was not cheep.


Later,,,,,,Jack

Ok, thanks for the reply.   :)
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: Marctwo on August 01, 2008, 04:19:20 PM
Thanks to those that have replied...

@Alan:  What happens in a couple of weeks?  Or is that how long it'll take me to get through the links etc.  ;)

@JackH:  Thanks for sharing... it looks nice and shiny.  But I'm really looking for available designs that have actually been replicated by others and proven to work.  I do like the electric calender though.  :D

@Broli:  I know what you mean.  I made a generic wheel for working through ideas and the 'balancing' type gravity wheels would seem to be more elegant concept than real world.  Having said that, I'd love to see a proven design that's been successfully replicated... So bring 'em on guys.  :)

@Wizardofma:  The percentages I gave roughly reflect what I have found so far.  And the HUUUUGE majority are from people showing the world what they can't do.

@Everyone else:  JackH gave a link to a relevant thread where his motors were discussed.  Maybe you could get into the specifics of devices in their own threads.  I'm sorry if this comes across as moody and I certainly mean no offence but with so many replies to this thread, it's disappointing that only a few of them are relevant to the OP.

Cheers guys.
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: loop888 on August 01, 2008, 05:52:31 PM
@JackH

a hell of a good looking machine you have there.

how it works?

i'm not asking for details or 'the secret', i'd just like to know what kind of concept are we talking about:
gravity? 'pulsed' gravity? why?, magnets? electro magnets? both?
wwaaaahhh i want to know what is THATTTT!!!  ;D

tried to get the idea in the other thread you linked but besides there's a pretty big number of pages it seems like you deleted some of your posts, so turns kinda hard to get it.

you, jack, or some one who get it, could comment something about this machine?

thanks so thanks!  :) :)
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: AB Hammer on August 01, 2008, 09:42:48 PM
@JackH

Once patent pending is established exposure is not a problem. It is when it is hidden from the public at that time where the patent thieves have  a chance to bump your patent with a slight difference. There are eyes in any patent office for just such a thing for exposure of ground breaking inventions. The world need to know or you will fade into nothingness IMO.  PS. you do have to truly know how to write your patent to be safe as well.

@Marctwo

We will see. But no absolutes, but it looks good.
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: wizardofmars on August 04, 2008, 03:50:10 PM
Quote from: JackH on August 01, 2008, 02:58:48 PM
It took me 6 years to get the patent on this motor.  I do not want to show it before getting the patent, that would be stupid.


So have you filed a patent? Do you have an application number? Do you have a patent attorney?

Or are you just full of BS like 99% of perpetual motion tinkerers?
Title: Re: Any Working Designs?
Post by: JackH on August 04, 2008, 04:52:45 PM
Hello wizardofmars,

Yes to all your questions.

Later,,,,,JackH