A trans channel who has written her own books has put her reputation on the line by stating that on the 14th October 2008 a 2000 mile long UFO will hover for 3 days in the sky for all to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zhzvbBOu_I
Where can I sign up for that cult?
Its not a cult, it has also been confirmed by another channel.
My Dear brothers and sisters of light, I have just registered on ATS to send you this wonderful news and confirm something great that is about to happen. I am also a channeler for the Pleiadians and Galactic Federation of Light and there is a message I would like to share. I would like to confirm Blossom Good Childs message that I have also received and it?s wonderful news that this year on October 14th the GFL will show up in a super galactic space ship beyond human comprehension in size. I have channeled some of the details about the ship and it will be around 2,000 of our earth miles in diameter and will send loving messages to all the people of the world. This ship will cover entire cities and circle areas of earth for 3 days, no sky will be seen upon it?s arrival for those viewing it and this will cause panic among the masses but we shall not fear because they are here to reveal to the world that it?s time for our awakening, it?s time to realize we are not alone and that we are being watched over by a benevolent group of loving ET?s who look almost identical to us and consider us family in the stars.
They have carefully selected this time to show up and are doing it out of goodwill because of the great evils behind this world that we as humans cannot see for this cause they have decided to take action before it?s to late, they do love us and care for us like family, they realize most of us our blind to the truths of this world and being controlled by something we do not really fully understand. It?s time to break free from wars, pestilence, famine, poverty, sickness, disease, rich and poor and all the world sufferings that people have purposely caused us. It?s time for us to demand these world afflictions and sufferings stop once and for all so everyone may ascend and properly evolve as the due time of the galactic alignment is coming soon. The help will soon arrive but we need to work together and assure each other not to lose faith, be prepared and spread the word, keep love in your heart, this love is the very light that connects us together with all life and light in the universe.
For this reason our family of light has chosen to come for us in this great time of need because they do know what the rulers of this world who are not even human are about to unleash before a great awakening occurs on the planet and they are here to set us free. These evil rulers have controlled those who rule as puppets and been the very reason for wars, famine, starvation, disease and great sufferings and they do not want the human race to succeed in a great awakening of the soul. They do not want us to learn who we really are and what are true capability is but for those who stand firm in love and light there is no stopping us.
If you are not a believer in any of this please remember I warned you as I have heard their voices personally and know of a surety this will happen. Please follow your heart and at least keep an open mind as they will surely show up as they have promised. When they do maybe then you will see the reality of this and then you can consider that all we have said is true, be prepared in mind and heart as those who rule this world will do all they can to stop you from believing and containing this information.
> TO LEADERS, GOVERNERS, POLITICIANS AND ALL PEOPLE OF
> EARTH ..
>
> We wish it to be understood that on the 14th day of your
> month of
> October in the year 2008 a craft of great size shall be
> visible within
> your skies. It shall be in the south of your hemisphere
> and it shall
> scan over many of your states.
>
> We give to you the name of Alabama.
>
> It has been decided that we shall remain within your
> atmosphere for the
> minimum of three of your twenty four hour periods.
>
> During this time there will be much commotion upon your
> earth plane.
> Your highest authorities will be intruding into `our'
> atmospherics that surround our ship. This `security
> field' is
> necessary for us, as there shall take place a `farce'
> from those
> in your world who shall try to deny that we come in LOVE.
>
> KNOW OF THIS
>
> WE COME TO ASSIST YOUR WORLD.
>
> WE DO NOT COME TO TAKE OVER.
>
> WE DO NOT COME TO DESTRUCT.
>
> WE COME TO GIVE YOU HOPE.
>
> We are beings from other planets, who for many eons of
> your time have
> been preparing for these days ahead.
>
> We ask each soul that reads of these words to accept in
> their heart the
> Truth that lies within. For in that place there is the
> knowing that this
> is to take place.
>
> There shall be many who deny. There shall be many who
> dismiss.
>
> There shall be those who KNOW of this TRUTH.
>
> Which ever you may be . let this be understood.
>
> IT SHALL TAKE PLACE.
>
> We give you the opportunity to capture on screen this
> particular ship.
> There shall be no contact in the form that those of your
> planet would
> like. For this initial presentation, we shall simply be
> presenting our
> ship to you.
>
> We say to you . That shall certainly be enough to
> comprehend
> initially.
>
> All kinds of methods shall be carried out in order to try
> and penetrate
> through our security barrier, but they shall be to no
> avail.
>
> Until we can PROVE to you that we come in LOVE, we will
> not allow the
> fullness of our visits to be uncovered.
>
> KNOW OF THIS .
>
> THIS IS THE BEGINNING . NOT THE END.
>
> Your governments and your media will try to disguise us.
> This will fail.
> All avenues have been covered by us.
>
> Your media will have no choice but to portray the TRUTH
> for it shall be
> there for all to see.
>
> Friends of earth. Do not be afraid. We beseech you to
> TRUST that we come
> to bring the downfall of those who have misintentions for
> the well being
> of your planet.
>
> If we do not intervene now . as has been planned for eons
> of your
> earth time . then we fear it would be too late.
>
> WE ASK YOU TO ACCEPT US IN LOVE.
>
> FOR THAT IS WHY WE COME.
>
> The sayings that your world have been aware of via your
> movie screens
> etc were not merely make believe. We have been planting
> and watering
> seeds of Truth on your planet in preparation for these
> days.
>
> FOR INDEED
>
> WE COME IN PEACE.
>
> Fill your souls with TRUST in that knowledge.
>
> We are your brothers and sisters from other places.
>
> Our technology is far advanced. There are those in high
> places of ruling
> that KNOW full well of this. Therefore they know that
> there would be
> little point trying to `pretend' that they need
> weapons to
> destroy us.
>
> On this day that we appear, we ask you to listen only to
> your hearts and
> NOT to the words of those who shall be in great fear of
> losing their
> power.
>
> For too long your world has lived under a cloud that most
> of you have
> been unaware of. If you were to KNOW the Truths of what
> has been hidden
> from you, you would be appalled and in great disbelief.
>
> It is time for your souls to be allowed to be who they
> are.
>
> The veil is to be removed.
>
> BE OF JOY.
>
> IT IS A TIME FOR THAT.
>
> YOU SHALL KNOW OF THIS AS YOUR HEART ACCEPTS THE TRUE
> REASON FOR OUR
> VISIT.
>
> TO BRING YOU AN UNDERSTANDING OF LOVE. KNOW THIS.
>
> We choose to leave it at that.
>
> Be vigilant. Keep your eyes to the skies.
>
> Keep LOVE in your heart.
>
> WE . THE FEDERATION OF LIGHT . SIGN OFF, GIVING YOU
> ENCOURAGEMENT AND HOPE AS WE BEGIN THE ASCENSION INTO THE
> NEW WORLD.
>
> Each one of you has chosen to be here for this ascension.
> Choose now
> whether your human form will .
>
> Accept it through LOVE
>
> Or
>
> .
>
> Reject it through FEAR.
>
> May the Highest aspect of your soul fill you with Light
> as you move
> bravely forward.
>
> Gratitude to each one as they assist us in the cause.
>
> A note from Blossom.
>
> I am aware that Alabama is NOT in the Southern
> Hemisphere. I queried
> this to the Federation and was told . `In days of old, it
> used
> to be'. If anyone can find information on this, I
> would be most
> grateful if you could contact me via my website.
>
> It has also been suggested that `Alabama' maybe the
> name of a
> craft.
>
> On researching it appears that Alabama has a NASA space
> centre. .
>
> I thank each one of you for taking the time to read this
> and to pass it
> on.
>
> It required great courage to send this out. I hope this
> allows you the
> courage within yourselves to continue on your own
> personal search for
> YOUR TRUTH.
>
> And as you find it ... may it fill you with much
>
> LOVE LIGHT LAUGHTER & GOLDEN RAYS
>
> Blossom Goodchild.
>
> www.blossomgoodchild.com
Anybody want to bet?
I'll bet that they don't show up on October 14th. Or even the 15th. Or even the 20th.
I'll even give odds.
If they come, I'll give you, shooter001, one hundred US dollars. If they don't come, you give me ten dollars. That's 10-to-1 odds.
Deal?
Hey im just the messenger, but if the are real and they were going to show up like this I think it would be logical for them to announce it through a channel or contact before showing up so as not to scare people.
Oct 14 is full moon, in the south sky, usually appears full the day before and the day after either side of opposition (for three days).
Moon diameter 2160 miles.
Naww Dude... they are gonna ROLL on the 20th. Good god what happened to the trash collector? this forum needs one desporately. any takers? anyone? hello? tap,, tapp.. tappp.. is this thing on? ;)
EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwWUOmk7wO0
Quote from: TinselKoala on August 27, 2008, 02:18:13 PM
Anybody want to bet?
I'll bet that they don't show up on October 14th. Or even the 15th. Or even the 20th.
I'll even give odds.
If they come, I'll give you, shooter001, one hundred US dollars. If they don't come, you give me ten dollars. That's 10-to-1 odds.
Deal?
Quote from: Nomen luni on August 27, 2008, 02:27:58 PM
I'll put 100 bucks against you at 10:1 too, Shooter. Go on, it must be easy money if you really believe it.
Well i realy hope its true, I'll take your bet, you got a deal.
Hmm, let's see if there are bookies that take such bets...
I would bet on ETs showing up publicly before 2010, I would.
8)
Howdy Y'all,
We already covered this in the Galactic Freedom Day Thread...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5333.0/topicseen.html
I glad there is more interest in this topic.
The n00bs that don't believe this will get a nice shock on 10/14/2008.
This is the beginning of the Golden Age of Enlightenment on the path to the Ascension of our Solar System. All the evil people will disappear. Jupiter is going to turn into a star, we will be a binary star system soon. Peace and prosperity will encompass the Earth. All the suppressed technologies will be released. The people from inner Earth will come out to meet us as well as people from many different inhabited star systems. We will all have unlimited free energy, money that is worth something, and governments we can trust. Man, wait till you see their ships, AWESOME!!!
Blessed Be...
Quote from: shooter001 on August 27, 2008, 01:21:01 PM
A trans channel who has written her own books has put her reputation on the line by stating that on the 14th October 2008 a 2000 mile long UFO will hover for 3 days in the sky for all to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zhzvbBOu_I
Lol!
You must be outdated. Aliens are already long here, on Earth, even sending clear instructions on pyramids and other OU devices.
By the way: does yours bring OU/FE to us?
Take good, good care of yourself! ;)
Tinu
Fringe rant: Research everything I say for yourself!
I strongly believe, that there will be a showing of "space ship technology" before 2010-2011, likely near if not on a date that has been announced. Unfortunately, it seems that this will be a lie perpetuated on us by a supremacist group, using technology based on ww2 nazi research. I also strongly suspect, that the nazi programs were never canceled, and that ww2 had been prearranged, with both sides knowing in advance the rules of the game. So if a craft appears on oct. 14th, its just as likely a sign of the ruling class (corruptionists) as it is an alien race (unknown traits, most likely malicious since we are already suffering, without their help, as they watch it happen).
Nope, cant depend on anybody to fix this, gotta do it ourselves. *sigh*
Humanity, forward!
lol
ps. Had anyone here caught the physics/esoteric videos by 4take4give on youtube? Interesting stuff, taught me to view interactions and bonds differently. (He had a kickass over unity design too, based on valves, balls, and (liquid) pressure, in a rotating array, but he removed it almost immediately after posting it). Geometry, force, the composition of the universe, the structure of time, perspective, morality.
Quote from: tinu on August 27, 2008, 04:04:46 PM
Lol!
You must be outdated. Aliens are already long here, on Earth, even sending clear instructions on pyramids and other OU devices.
By the way: does yours bring OU/FE to us?
Take good, good care of yourself! ;)
Tinu
Howdy Tinu,
I agree! "Aliens" seeded human life on Earth and accelerated our evolution so that Earth could be a Seed Planet. They have had a hand in developing ALL of our technologies. There is irrefutable proof recorded throughout our ancient history. Archeologists found metal disks in a secret chamber under the pyramid at Giza that give a concise history of extraterrestrial intervention and contact going back half a million years. What is happening on 10/14/2008 is public disclosure. Now everyone will know our "alien" heritage, not just the "enlightened".
The beings that are coming to meet us are not "aliens". The are our Galactic Brothers and Sisters, long separated. They are us. We are them. It's like a cosmic family reunion...
Blessed Be...
Howdy SeanTheLight,
I do not think that it will be the Illuminati this time. My information states that both Christ Michael and Christ Sananda will be on this ship...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on August 27, 2008, 04:16:48 PM
Howdy Tinu,
I agree! "Aliens" seeded human life on Earth and accelerated our evolution so that Earth could be a Seed Planet. They have had a hand in developing ALL of our technologies. There is irrefutable proof recorded throughout our ancient history. Archeologists found metal disks in a secret chamber under the pyramid at Giza that give a concise history of extraterrestrial intervention and contact going back half a million years. What is happening on 10/14/2008 is public disclosure. Now everyone will know our "alien" heritage, not just the "enlightened".
The beings that are coming to meet us are not "aliens". The are our Galactic Brothers and Sisters, long separated. They are us. We are them. It's like a cosmic family reunion...
Blessed Be...
Records date back to the ancient sumerians who created us in there image to help mine for gold. They called themselves gODS and walked the earth with us. They are referenced in the bible as the annunaki who fell from the skies, they mated with the women to have giants(the nephlim). Remember david and goliath.
Ok, ok! You almost convinced me.
Don?t forget to send me a nice photo. Do they say cheese? ;D
Cheers,
Tinu
Hehe.. these threads are so funny! I'll believe it when and if I see the ships and aliens. ;D
Peace,
Jason
Quote from: 4Tesla on August 27, 2008, 05:26:46 PMI'll believe it when and if I see the ships and aliens. ;D
Maybe that's the difficulty: apparently some things can only be "seen" when consciousness is ready... ;) ;D
Howdy 4Tesla,
Most of these "aliens" look just like us. The ships are very different. But they, for the most part look just like us. I don't see why you all are so shocked about this. We have been in the space age for 50 years. All the SciFi, the abduction stories, and the UFO sightings, why is this so hard to believe. Many of you know, deep within your spirits, it was only a matter of time before Heaven was fed up with all the monkey business that goes on on this world. Lucifer was uncreated 20 years ago. The Annunaki left 10 years ago. The Zeta Reticuli infestation was eradicated 5 years ago. It is time for the evil men to leave as well. Without our "oppressors" think of what great things we can do. Think of the technological achievements and the great strides in humanity that we can accomplish when our hands are untethered from the bonds that the Forces of Darkness have placed on us. We will be able to take oil based energy production down for good. We will be able to completely clean our world of all pollution. Food production will hit exponential highs with rapid food growing technology and everyone will be fat and happy. We might have to export food off world. Alien technologies will revolutionize energy production and manufacturing. Everyone will have everything that they need...
Like Orbs said, I guess your mind has to have all the necessary prerequisite information before it will accept the idea of Galactic Society or even Multiversal Society. When God created life he didn't single out this tiny speck of a planet and only put it here. There is a Myriad of life all over our Galaxy, other Galaxies, our Universe, other Universes. The Multiverse is teeming with life, it is everywhere, and travels through the Galaxy, between Galaxies, between Universes, and in Space/Time through the Multiverse. Truth is indeed stranger than fiction...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: Nomen luni on August 27, 2008, 06:58:59 PM
Okay, the bet is on. Not sure we can enforce it, but if the loser doesn't pay up, everyone on the forum can give them some stick ;)
Cool that will pay for my night out to celebrate ;)
I believe that there is life elsewhere and UFOs may be real, but aliens channeling messages that they are coming.. that is too far out for me.
Jason
Howdy Shooter001,
Do you know who you channeled, or received the signal from. I have heard the the GFL uses a mental "transmitter" that can single out an individual. Sort of like a psychic radio, which does not violate your built in protections to mental intrusion. Would like to talk directly with Blossom Goodchild, but well you know, she is halfway across the world. I am very excited about this event. Been waiting for it a long time. Also this event has been delayed considerably. God willing it will happen on time this time...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on August 27, 2008, 07:51:28 PM
Howdy Shooter001,
Do you know who you channeled, or received the signal from. I have heard the the GFL uses a mental "transmitter" that can single out an individual. Sort of like a psychic radio, which does not violate your built in protections to mental intrusion. Would like to talk directly with Blossom Goodchild, but well you know, she is halfway across the world. I am very excited about this event. Been waiting for it a long time. Also this event has been delayed considerably. God willing it will happen on time this time...
Blessed Be...
Sry I never channeled this message i am just relaying it, I have a thinking that telling people may make a difference because the more people that will it the greater the chance of success. Its a bit like taking a vote but you only need to acknowledge it in your mind. Nearly evertime im switching the radio on lately I keep hearing the song sweet alabama :), maybe just a coincidence lol but it makes me smile.
I have been refraining from posting here due to the audio assault that great me whenever I refresh the start page.
However, I feel I must point out the existence and documented usage of technology to implant thoughts and voices into the heads of targeted victims.
In other words, be very wary of strangers bearing gifts...just ask the native americans.
More here...
http://www.eharassment.ca/
Regards...
Howdy Cap,
This is why I always wear my aluminum foil hat to prevent the malicious government types from beaming ideas into my brain. I just built an improved model which is made from the radiant barrier material I used to insulate my house from the insidious radiations. Damn G-Men...
Blessed Be...
Once you've quantified the Creator as a definable creature/creatures, galactic being, alien or ascended master, you've allowed yourself to be deceived. The infinite, all-present and all-loving Creator can never be identified or circumscribed by a name or label or location -planetary or otherwise. The fears of the present are no greater than those of the past; we are just more aware of them at a global level, and therefore are more susceptible to mass deception and buying in to manufactured terrror. True hope believes in the Creator's promises found in the sacred scriptures of the world's great religions. These promises are continuously being fulfilled, and we need not deceive ourselves into believing that life is hopeless and God is dead. This is merely a deception championed by Nietzche and his succesors who would have us believe only a "superman" kind of being from outside could indeed come and rescue us poor helpless blokes. Iam not helpless nor hopeless. From what I have seen over many years of study and prayer, sound and light shows by supposed galactic or spiritual superheroes are not the Creator's way.
Hi shooter001,
I do feel something is going to happen and it will happen soon.
If this mother ship shows up, be prepared for a few reruns of "V" the miniseries. That will be the first thing aired. Loved that series but it will be used to seed fear, I bet they are already preparing the alternate soundtracks.
"Something Wonderful is going to happen." 2010
Arthur C. Clark
Take care,
Michel
You will get " Independence Day" and "War of the worlds" for free with your groceries, hehe.
Ah well, let's just attract as mass event ETs showing up grand scale before Dark Siders get a chance to air their ET attack holo show.
Let's visualize what we wish, not what we fear.
For yes, we c?n, and we will, hahaha.
What agenda will Barack fit in ???
Quote from: mdmiller on August 27, 2008, 02:49:29 PMOct 14 is full moon,
I actually found this comment interesting, especially in light of Alex Collier's lecture (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5242.msg119249.html#msg119249). ;D
Jeez... can`t these guys just use an old fashioned radio like we do??, you`d think they`d be able to coble one together... ;D
Howdy Bob Smith,
Quote from: Bob Smith on August 27, 2008, 10:55:07 PM
Once you've quantified the Creator as a definable creature/creatures, galactic being, alien or ascended master, you've allowed yourself to be deceived. The infinite, all-present and all-loving Creator can never be identified or circumscribed by a name or label or location -planetary or otherwise.
I don't think that we have attempted to define the Celestial Host (God) here. We are discussing His creations Ascended Masters, Angels, Archangels in all their various forms...
Quote from: Bob Smith on August 27, 2008, 10:55:07 PM
The fears of the present are no greater than those of the past; we are just more aware of them at a global level, and therefore are more susceptible to mass deception and buying in to manufactured terror.
On the contrary our nemesis, the Forces of Darkness, are at the height of their power. They intend on enslaving the entire world permanently. Their capability for destruction is at an all time high and their ability to control their power is at an all time low. This is because their former controllers, the Annunaki, left the planet, and the evil human puppets have no temperance or forbearance by themselves. We really are at the most perilous point in our history. There are issues you are not aware of. Like their scorched earth policy.
Quote from: Bob Smith on August 27, 2008, 10:55:07 PM
This is merely a deception championed by Nietzche and his succesors who would have us believe only a "superman" kind of being from outside could indeed come and rescue us poor helpless blokes.
No, again, not a deception. There are multitudinous examples that I can sight here, but don't have the time. Look at what the NWO Globalists are trying to do. Look at the way the US Constitution has been shredded over the past two presidential terms. Look at the pathetic mess the UN is. Look at all the Global Corporations and Banks. Look at the unstoppable juggernaut which the oil based energy production has become, and how it is completely destroying our biosphere. I'm not a tree hugger or a bible thumper, but I do have eyes to see and ears to hear. I study hard to understand the world I live in. I understand prophesy and am not afraid of unorthodox research. No, this is not a manufactured crisis in which some Globalist hero comes to save the day. Our world is on the brink of annihilation literally. If the Galactic Federation does not step in and stop what is happening here they will watch our planet be incinerated from their space ships. This is too much for them to bear, they are morally obligated to step in for mercies sake. They cannot bear to witness us incinerate yet another planet.
Our first attempt at third density life in this star system was Maldek, the planet that formerly occupied the fifth orbital path around the sun. What? You have never heard of Maldek? Well, I'm not surprised, Maldek was obliterated by nuclear war several million years ago. The remaining debris occupies the fifth orbital path around the sun, we call it the asteroid belt. Our second attempt at third density life in this system was Mars. Again destroyed by nuclear war, but this time it was stopped short of shattering the planet. This nuclear war merely blew a hole in the atmosphere and let most of the atmosphere escape into space. Again destroying nearly all life on the planet. Now back to the present, the Forces of Light witnessed us explode a nuke over Hiroshima in 1945, and that set off cosmic alarms. They are afraid that the human race is going to incinerate yet another planet. This time they have a Divine Decree to prevent us from doing that. The Forces of Light have been interfering with nuclear programs all over the world for decades, since 1945, by Heavens Directive. If it had not been for their interference we would have all been destroyed by now, by our own hand. The Illuminati hold a scorched Earth policy. If they cannot hold this planet under their dominion, and enslave all peoples, then they feel that no one can have this planet. They were prepared to start a global nuclear war and destroy the Earth. Fortunately the Forces of Light stepped in and prevented this from happening. The War in Heaven is about freeing the Earth from the Forces of Darkness (Illuminati, and others) so that Earth can be what Heaven wanted Earth to be, a seed planet.
Blessed Be...
Quote from: shooter001 on August 27, 2008, 02:11:43 PM
> TO LEADERS, GOVERNERS, POLITICIANS AND ALL PEOPLE OF
> EARTH ..
> It has been decided that we shall remain within your
> atmosphere for the
> minimum of three of your twenty four hour periods....
>
> www.blossomgoodchild.com
No, they're fakes. They didn't call us "earthlings", or even "puny earthlings". They are as genuine as
nine pound notes.
Paul.
Quote from: shooter001 on August 27, 2008, 02:01:19 PM
Its not a cult, it has also been confirmed by another channel.
Well, there ya go then. It must be true.
I'm curious, IF they don't show up, and all these folks are sure they will -- what will be the reason?? Especially since the fact of their arrival has been confirmed by another channel....
The U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service should do something about this, like building a giant "virtual fence" around the entire planet. Insecure borders will allow a flood alien space critters to arrive, register Internet domains and infest social networking sites, something like these.
http://www.semjase.net/
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=190131883
Too late! It's already started! ;)
Hahahaaaahahahaha.....
Immigra, Immigra, run....
The feeble humans might get us...
The INS would try to arrest God if they could...
Blessed Be...
the ship will be 2,000 miles long, and block out the sky for those under it.
how will the dark clowns possibly fake THAT?
about 2.5 weeks after the fly over, we will have the november elections.
this 2.5 weeks, will give the world enough time to consider what it thinks/feels. before the election happens.
my intuition tells me that the space hippies are doing this flyover on october 14th, because that is as long as they can hold off doing it.
because if they hold it off any longer, there is the STRONG possibility of the illuminati doing something big and awful.
this fly over is meant to give the people of earth enough focus, to do something about the illuminati themselves.
without the space hippies having to do it for us.
(although they will do it for us, if the situation down here becomes too lethal. because they will not be letting us go extinct needlessly.)
i have heard their voices in my dreams.
i have been indirectly influenced by them in VERY positive ways, over my entire life.
i don't know what will happen on october the 14th. but i do know, that they will not let earth die.
Quote from: mdmiller on August 27, 2008, 02:49:29 PM
Oct 14 is full moon, in the south sky, usually appears full the day before and the day after either side of opposition (for three days).
Moon diameter 2160 miles.
This is an excellent remark!!!
Now I wonder if Moon will be claimed to be an alien ship. Lol! If so, we may have an issue with the already placed bets. ;)
Cheers,
Tinu
Howdy Y'all,
The Galactic Federation frequently uses moons and planetoids for ships. Nibiru is a planet that was converted to a ship. It is the Flagship of the Nibiruan Council, a federation of many different worlds in our galaxy. There is a wide variety of beings that permanently live on Nibiru. Nibiru was a planet orbiting Sirius B before it went nova and Nibiru was thrown into deep space. After being converted to a ship it can move freely to any part of the galaxy because it is not locked into a standing wave orbit like a natural planet.
The ship that is coming to Earth to prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that there are benevolent beings throughout the galaxy is not a moon, planetoid, or a planet. The ship that is coming will be a manufactured ship which is thousands of times bigger than anything we have ever manufactured. An Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier is minuscule in comparison. It is a truly massive ship that is shaped like a eight pointed star. It is one of the last original starships of the Galactic Federation. This ship has been in space for millions of years. The name of the ship is the Pelegai.
This event has been very controversial among all the races involved. Some prefer non-interference, some want a limited covert help, others want a full landing (1000's of ships). What the council decided on was to simply show the flagship. They want to bring it down in the atmosphere and just sit there for a while. Let everyone contemplate the significance of this event, the ship, and wonder who these beings are. There is plenty of information already here, but most people don't look for this type of information. The gave us a lot of heads up information. For years they have been preparing us for this event, yet most everyone will still be caught off guard. Myself, I am ready. Lets see the ship...
Blessed Be...
how did you get that information, Z monkey?
only about 3 times, have any of them contacted me in dreams.
otherwise, i have no heard anything from anyone.
and it makes me feel pissed.
because my life has been an EXTREMELY isolated one.
Interesting information. thanks for posting.
You might want to check out www.ProjectCamelot.org and www.DivineCosmos.com and www.disclose.tv and...oh man please be careful when going up rabbit holes ^
The future is going to be wild because...
SHIFT HAPPENS!
JT - !ST - The only thing more wild the the lies is the TRUTH.
Howdy Nitnnun, and JesterTerrestrial,
Nittinnun, most of my post is information that I knew already from prior research. The name and configuration of the ship I didn't know so I asked Christ Michael. He put the name of the ship in my head and then I was able to look up the details of the ship.
JesterTerrestrial, our former overlords, the Annunaki, intentionally damaged our DNA to prevent our realizing that WE ARE CREATORS, you are a GOD! The damage that they did to our DNA left us powerless, and as a result the human race of slaves fell into a depression, we forgot that we are Creator Gods and accepted our role as slaves to the Annunaki. It has been somewhere on the order of 13,000 years since mankind in general knew of his divine heritage. There have always been a few humans who had undamaged DNA on the surface of Earth, and they kept themselves far out of the way of mainstream society. This part of your DNA that is damaged is what modern scientists call "junk" DNA. Well, you know, they are just guessing. This inactive DNA contains hidden powers and genetic memory, and when activated will transform an average human into the Creator God that he is supposed to be. The powers included in this inactive DNA are, telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, the ability to read the Akashic Record, Etheric Clairvoyance, Astral Clairvoyance, and genetic memory among others. That Stargate in your brain is the result of a completely activated chain of DNA. This has been happening spontaneously and more frequently. There are many ways to stimulate your DNA to activate it. Throughout the last century people who awakened from their slumber were a serious threat to the Annunaki and their Illuminati henchmen hunted them down with great impunity. After all, a fully actualized human will tell his buddies about it and cause a big problem for the evil overlords. But, now the Annunaki are gone, and the Forces of Light are hunting down the Illuminati. The people who are now awakening are allowed to utilize their powers that the Great Creator God of this universe intended for us to have. This is causing a paradigm shift in our reality. It is causing a cascade effect in the physical plane where more and more people are awakening and utilizing their powers in a positive way in order to change Earth for the better. By 2012 most of us will become fully actualized. Earth will be a planet full of Creator Gods who can transform Earth into the seed planet that it was intended to be. We are finally starting to realize our cosmic destiny. The Galactic Federation has been key in this transformation for with out their help we would still be the slaves of evil overlords, toiling our entire lives to make them rich and comfortable while we live out in the cold. The Galactic Federation has my eternal thanks and gratitude. I work for them now...
Blessed Be...
So this announcement is to keep the world's population from freaking out when the aliens come on 10/14/08?
Howdy Newbie123,
Well, there are very few people that read this forum, compared to the world population, and ever fewer people that will believe it. There has been an influx of information about the Galactic Federation over the past year. The internet, books, channels, lecturers, all of a sudden the information about the Galactic Federation, Nibiru, 2012, and alien technologies is everywhere. Most people will deride, not believing the fantastic stories. Fortunately, the true state of affairs does not require our belief. I too found a lot of this information fantastic and hard to believe, especially in spiritual matters. I have been on a hardcore learning curve as a result. I had to get out of the little box that was my reality and embrace concepts that were totally foreign to me. This was a hard thing to do. When I first read some of these things my knee jerk reaction was "No Way!" These concepts were anti-logical to me. My brain would instantly reject them, but I kept studying, kept on trying to understand, and eventually they started to make sense to me. Then it occurred to me that my brain was rejecting these ideas because I was "programmed" and "educated" by the public school system. I don't know exactly how they achieved the result but my brain would reject outlandish ideas without contemplating them, and analyzing them. I had no problem contemplating and analyzing mundane concepts, but fantastic concepts, and especially spiritual and alien concepts, my brain would instantly reject. This is a highly specialized program that was running within my brain, and I do not know how it got there, who put it there, or when it was put there. All I knew was that I needed to disable this subroutine because it was hindering my growth and evolution. I managed to do this by consciously confronting the program every time it was activated, and let me tell you, that was a battle. So to answer your question, yes, this is supplemental information about 10/14/2008. Will it keep the world from freaking out? Probably not, because this information will reach very few people relative to the population of the world, and few people will take the pains to understand this information as I have. I wish that were not so, but it is.
Blessed Be...
OK if any of you guys are in contact with the alien ship that is on it's way.... PLEASE tell them NOT to just come in to the atmosphere and hover over some city.
If they do that,, here is the likely scenario: Assuming this is all true in the first place, then the NWO and whoever is in charge in the shadow government has a big vested interest in not letting us know about it all... So since they control the media; that means as long as they NUKE the city where it appears and kill everyone around the area that saw the ship, then they might think that no one else will hear about it.... And using that as a lessen to the aliens that they are willing to kill their own kind to maintain power.... Forcing them to just go away, or see millions more innocents killed.
So please tell them that this particular plan really suxx ;)
They gotta do it like in the movies, appearing at all the major capitols at once.
Well, Here's the problem (s)..
Any group of people that starts (or ends) their paragraphs with "Brothers And Sisters of . .. ... " has about a 99.9 percent chance of being part of a group with a unique, or unlogical belief (aka cult) , right?
Second, everything you've learned about this is hearsay, right? Have you questioned where this information actually comes from? Can you provide real details?
They also mention "reptilians" doh! The same ones that show up on TV in clearly glitched digital videos?
I'm as open minded as the next free-energy guy, but c'mon.
Where do you get this nibiru info. THere is alot of info out there on this topic. Some says its real others says it a vatican lie.
Hummmmm
Howdy Jibbguy,
That is a valid concern. The NWO Illuminati has no qualms about killing even their own, much less their chattel slaves. This is why the Galactic Federation has intervened. They already have taken action to prevent the use of any nukes, anywhere on this planet. This is specifically the reason for their intervention. Mankind, under the control of the Annunaki and their puppets, the Illuminati, were hell bent on destroying this planet if they could not dominate it. Therefore the Galactic Federation had to mitigate their ability to wreak havoc and cause damage, so the nukes were the first to go. There was an attempt by the NWO to explode a dirty nuke in Texas in May, this was prevented by the Galactic Federation using a plasma shield. After that there was an attempt by the NWO to attack Iran with nukes, Iran prevented that with a plasma shield which they constructed. The plasma shield is a Tesla technology. The evil people on this planet are simply not permitted to exercise power any longer. They proved that they are not worthy of wielding such power, so they will be the first to loose their power. This isn't going to happen like some movie. I think that the first effects that we are going to see are a surge of spiritual events. Angels appearing everywhere and telling us that this is Heavens will. We will see an unprecedented level of patients, temperance, tolerance and understanding. We will see armies throw down their weapons. We will see empathy and goodwill all over the globe. We will see a surge of new technologies and the death knell of oil. It is something we just don't know how to describe because it is something that has not been experienced in this reality for a long long time...
Newbie123, no this is not just hearsay. Yes a lot of my information comes from channels all over the globe. But I have my own sources. I have psychic abilities and am able to channel information intermittently. There are also my esoteric sources of information. The future holds the evidence, if what I say doesn't come to pass you can dismiss me and never value my opinion and information again. That is not my concern. Let me tell you about my year first. In February I was bored at work. I decided that I was going to finally invent the free energy device that I wanted to build for so long. I began my research, including many unorthodox resources. This research had an unexplained effect on me. I became prophetic. I began to see through the lies that are spewed forth from the media. I became psychic, hearing the thoughts of others, and having premonitions. This shocked the hell out of my wife. She is still in disbelief. Then the psychic abilities turned in to what I call spiritual engineering abilities. I am already an engineer, but with my augmentation I began to see alien technologies and how they work. The Vril Levitator and the Thule Levitator, for example, I can see the workings of the mechanisms in my mind. Now when I work with run of the mill engineering problems I see the solution almost instantly in my mind. All I have to do is draw it. My mind did not work like this before. So when the 10/14/2008 message happened the information came flooding into my mind. All I did was write it down. I believe that this is communion with my spirit, the I AM that I AM. I have become what is referred to as "Born Again" except not in the orthodox christian meaning, but the true spiritual meaning where my spirit truly manifests through my physical body. I am now truly a Mental Being walking in a Physical body. This gives me access to my soul knowledge and connects me to the Mental Plane of Existence where many of our space bearing Galactic Federation friends reside. I was able to ask Christ Michael a question and I had an immediate response (I appreciate that also Aton). My entire life has been transformed within this last year and it is a strange experience, albeit not unwelcome. If you want to call this a cult, then you can call it the cult of Z.Monkey, and his spirit, the I AM that I AM, Magi Kahn (my spirit name). So you probably don't believe all of this, and that is OK. I'll let the ship do the convincing for me...
JesterTerrestrial, The Nibiruan information comes from many sources, I'll have to go research my notes...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on August 29, 2008, 08:45:42 PM
Howdy Newbie123,
Well, there are very few people that read this forum, compared to the world population, and ever fewer people that will believe it. There has been an influx of information about the Galactic Federation over the past year. The internet, books, channels, lecturers, all of a sudden the information about the Galactic Federation, Nibiru, 2012, and alien technologies is everywhere. Most people will deride, not believing the fantastic stories. Fortunately, the true state of affairs does not require our belief. I too found a lot of this information fantastic and hard to believe, especially in spiritual matters. I have been on a hardcore learning curve as a result. I had to get out of the little box that was my reality and embrace concepts that were totally foreign to me. This was a hard thing to do. When I first read some of these things my knee jerk reaction was "No Way!" These concepts were anti-logical to me. My brain would instantly reject them, but I kept studying, kept on trying to understand, and eventually they started to make sense to me. Then it occurred to me that my brain was rejecting these ideas because I was "programmed" and "educated" by the public school system. I don't know exactly how they achieved the result but my brain would reject outlandish ideas without contemplating them, and analyzing them. I had no problem contemplating and analyzing mundane concepts, but fantastic concepts, and especially spiritual and alien concepts, my brain would instantly reject. This is a highly specialized program that was running within my brain, and I do not know how it got there, who put it there, or when it was put there. All I knew was that I needed to disable this subroutine because it was hindering my growth and evolution. I managed to do this by consciously confronting the program every time it was activated, and let me tell you, that was a battle. So to answer your question, yes, this is supplemental information about 10/14/2008. Will it keep the world from freaking out? Probably not, because this information will reach very few people relative to the population of the world, and few people will take the pains to understand this information as I have. I wish that were not so, but it is.
Blessed Be...
Z monkey
I have not spent any time looking into the Galactic Federation. The idea of physical beings from other planets saving us seems a little far fetched to me.
With that said . The energy of the message from Blossum has the right energy behind it.
I have seen more than a few similar predictions come and go . It would be great if this happened as predicted .
From my perspective the timing would be perfect .
:)
You are right about not enough people knowing about it to help calm the population in general .
As I see it the whole point of the vist would be to wake up the people...... it would also change the way some people are viewed .
As the world in general panics but the few people that know keep telling people that it is just the Galactic Federation showing us that things are not like we have been taught , and that they will be gone in 3 days .
These people will suddenly get more respect .............after the 3 days are up and the ship leaves ..
@jibguy
I think I remember reading that the ship would be in the south ..........I took this to mean southern hemisphere. ...... that would make sense .......there are less people there and fewer nukes .
I see no reason for the craft to stay over one ariea ........it would be best to orbit over several continents to be visable to the most people .
A ship 2000 miles long could orbit hundreds of miles above the earth and still be clearly visable in the sky .
The ideal position would be above the southern hemisphere but high enough to be visible from most large citys in the northern hemisphere .
gary
this is probably a dumb question but?
How can I increase or bring out these "abilities" you talk about?
Z monkey?
what set it off?
I might be crazy ::)
But i think i may be having some of the same experiences
Z.monkey, claims such as yours needs a little proof to help people believe, and even consider what you just said (this is how people sort out the fruitcakes from the logical folks). If you have have physic abilities, can you tell us what the DOW and S&P will do on Tuesday, or some other event.
Howdy RedRiderNo22,
Well, the first this is to have a burning desire to have communion with you spirit, and intimate knowledge of your soul knowledge. This is accessible by everyone in a limited form called common sense. The stronger your desire to have soul knowledge the quicker it will manifest. There are things that your spirit may require of you in this process. Asian food is one of the things that my spirit loves. I'm a Texian, and did like Asian food before, but I did not have the appreciation of Asian cultures and peoples that I have now. I found this place in my town which is like "Little Asia" and whenever I go there I am moved emotionally. I feel a empathic resonance with this culture which I can only describe as spiritual emotions. This leads me to believe that one of my significant previous incarnations I was Asian. This comes from my communion with my spirit, and my spirit acting on my physical body.
Also I find that meditation, and for lack of a better set of words "soul searching" helps your physical body to firmly connect and communicate with your spirit. Researching your mission in life is another way to seek communion with your spirit. Another method is to seek out spiritual teachings, especially esoteric information, and the works of ascended masters. Health Research Books has a plethora of books of a spiritual nature. Here is a link for these books available free on line. http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/
There are also unlimited resources available online.
Newbie123, Well, my spirit doesn't resonate in financial areas, and would not let me unfairly exploit financial markets even if it did. You can seek communion with your own spirit to verify anything that you are unsure of...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: redriderno22 on August 29, 2008, 10:52:05 PM
this is probably a dumb question but?
How can I increase or bring out these "abilities" you talk about?
Z monkey?
what set it off?
I might be crazy ::)
But i think i may be having some of the same experiences
redriderno22
My answer for this question is very simple ............but not easy . .....at least not at first .
God is Love.
Focus on things that bring a feeling of love to your heart.
Dwell on this feeling of love.
Listen to this feeling of love.
The love will not speak with words. It is more like pure and simple understanding.
It takes time to break old thinking habits .
It takes time to trust what the love shows you .
The nice thing about this process is . As soon as you start . You will start to feel better in many ways .
gary
Howdy Resonanceman,
I have to agree with that also. There has been a major surge of love in my life. I think that this is caused by the communion with my spirit. I noticed that my interpersonal relationships have all improved. My heart chakra seems to have enlarged and is more active. I also seem to be more emotionally biased more than I was before. This effects my behavior in a positive way...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: newbie123 on August 29, 2008, 10:53:43 PM
Z.monkey, claims such as yours needs a little proof to help people believe, and even consider what you just said (this is how people sort out the fruitcakes from the logical folks). If you have have physic abilities, can you tell us what the DOW and S&P will do on Tuesday, or some other event.
Newbie123
It doesn't work that way.
A psychic can't see anything that they want to see . They only see things things that they are meant to see.
As far as if you believe or not .........don't worry about it. you will believe exactly as you choose to believe.
Your beliefs won't change until YOU choose to change them .
Our culture teaches us that what matters is what is in our minds .
In reality what is in our hearts is MUCH more important .
What feeling is in YOUR heart right now?
If your heart is filled with love ....... then the truth will be clear to see.
gary
Quote from: z.monkey on August 29, 2008, 11:33:03 PM
Howdy Resonanceman,
I have to agree with that also. There has been a major surge of love in my life. I think that this is caused by the communion with my spirit. I noticed that my interpersonal relationships have all improved. My heart chakra seems to have enlarged and is more active. I also seem to be more emotionally biased more than I was before. This effects my behavior in a positive way...
Blessed Be...
Z monkey
Yes
You are waking up.
You are starting to live as both a spiritual being AND a physical body .
Most people still think that they are physical.
We have chosen to experience the physical. but our true nature is spiritual .
We have been taught all of our lives that we are only physical. Even our religions teach us this .
It takes a very open mind to look past all the conditioning and see the truth
As more and more people see the truth .........it will become easier for the masses to see the truth .
This ship visiting would be great because it would show everyone that things are not what we have been taught.
It would help LOTS of people look deeper and try to find the truth .
When enough people find the truth .......The powers of darkness will have no chance. There will be NOTHING that they can do .
gary
If the aliens do show up will the government censor it? Or deny it?
Quote from: newbie123 on August 30, 2008, 12:08:57 AM
If the aliens do show up will the government censor it? Or deny it?
They will try
gary
Howdy Newbie123,
Yeah, the government doesn't want you to see this. It means a permanent end to their power over us. They will do their very best to prevent you from believing that these are benevolent beings who have come in love to help us. The government will even attack the ship. The power that the government has is infinitesimal in comparison to the power that the Galactic Federation has. Ultimately the government will have to tell us the truth, that the Galactic Federation has been in contact with them for more than 50 years, and they will admit all that they have covered up, and lied to us about, the people that they are sworn to represent. This is what this event is about. The deception, the lies, the subterfuge, all the games are fixing to end. This presentation of the Galactic Federation flagship is going to make the "powers that be" realize their charade is over, permanently. Then we can get back to the life that we were intended to lead. I cannot wait for that day..
Blessed Be...
people won't panic like everyone thinks they will.
most people have had enough movies, enough drama, enough bullshit, and enough nerve cell destroying chemicals in their food, to not explode upon seeing a huge spaceship over them.
they might be surprised.
they might be shocked.
but they will not self-destruct over it.
i don't know what the rest of you have experienced.
but in the 3 or so dreams that i had, the love and happiness that i felt from them, was overpowering to me.
in these "dreams", i purposely tried to feel negative things. and i might as well has been trying to push over a brick house with my bare hands.
it was because there was way more power in their aura, than there was power in my aura.
they won the aura-wrestling match. so i could not overpower their emotions.
the aura's of the aliens, would overpower the aura of the humans below them. so that it is extremely difficult, for the humans to feel fear or panic.
instead, the humans will feel love and happiness and joy. like i did.
and if it feels for them like it felt for me, than the humans will want to feel it again SO BADLY, that they would pay a billion dollars for it.
and consider that a bargain.
i could easily have spent a month doing nothing but feeling those feelings. and not lose interest. because they were THAT great.
and those were the normal emotions, that the aliens let off.
because their nervous systems are powerful enough to generate and sustain that kind of emotional bliss.
anyway. the dark clowns cannot do jack shit to that ship.
even if they were allowed to shoot at all week.
because it's shield generator is too strong.
but i doubt they will even be able to get anywhere near it.
because they won't be able to tolerate the positive emotions coming from the ship.
I just don't understand why aliens always sound like pompous wankers.
> It has been decided that we shall remain within your
> atmosphere for the
> minimum of three of your twenty four hour periods.
Wouldn't it be easier to say three days?
And why go to America? Do they think the Americans run the show here on earth?
I can't say I wouldn't like to see a ship, but chances are it's all bullshit.
doubt, has no basis in reality.
it is a useless illusion.
doubt steals potential and energy from people.
and NEVER gives anything useful back, in return.
when a person passive-aggressively doubts hard enough, NOTHING will EVER convince them otherwise.
because the skull of such a person, might as well be made of adamantium.
because that person does not WANT to change how they think.
but, doubt does have a basis in conditioning.
the conditioning that public school, and the rest of the system, have brainwashed us with.
if it sounds too positive, you automatically reject it without thinking.
even if there IS evidence supporting it, you STILL automatically reject it.
without looking, and without contemplating.
by the way. "proof based logic", is just another control system.
logic, is merely a method of doing something. (an ugly, hidious, arbitrary, opinion-based way of doing something).
logic is NOT a perfect end all answer to the universe.
(especially not when wielded by someone who worships it, like it were a religion.)
proof, is also an illusion.
you cannot prove or disprove anything in the universe.
because EVERYTHING, is nothing more than an educated guess.
you can't even prove your own ass, with both hands and a road map.
let alone prove anything else, with anything else.
Howdy Goldsphere,
The message was interpreted through a spiritual medium, it was channeled. They are usually spiritual people and not technical. Plus there is a language disparity so they sound kind of funny. America is the current power center of the Illuminati and their message, and their mission is directed toward the current power mongers of the world. Sorry, this time no bullshit. I have seen the ship in my mind. This is going to happen. They are here already. Earth is the focus of the entire galaxy right now. Their ships are all around us, but we can not see them because they are in higher densities right now. Even the Pelegai is in our orbit right now but it is in a higher density so we can not see it. When the time is right the Pelegai will lower its density to the 3rd density and we will see it right there where it has been sitting for months...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: nitinnun on August 30, 2008, 01:38:35 AM
in these "dreams", i purposely tried to feel negative things. and i might as well has been trying to push over a brick house with my bare hands.
it was because there was way more power in their aura, than there was power in my aura.
they won the aura-wrestling match. so i could not overpower their emotions.
the aura's of the aliens, would overpower the aura of the humans below them. so that it is extremely difficult, for the humans to feel fear or panic.
instead, the humans will feel love and happiness and joy. like i did.
nitinnun
It is not quite as simple as one person choosing to send loving energy and another one recieving it .
Free will is always involved .
No matter how advanced the aliens are it is not possible for them to MAKE anyone feel love..
It looks to me like at some level you have already chosen to be ready for a situation like this . Your dreams are part of your preparation.
Those that choose to hold on to excessive ego and greed will not be able to stop the energy sent out by those on the ship
But they will not feel it as love .
They will feel it as a form of energy closer to what they normally send out . So they will probably feel something like uncontrollable fear.
gary
The date and happening has been confirmed again:
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=91&z=2
Search for October on the page.
Looking forward to October.
Howdy SwinG,
I am familiar with Matthew and his work. Who he refers to as Hatonn, is also Aton, and also known as Christ Michael, the Archangel in charge of our universe, Nebadon. See we have verification from many sources... He also says that the timing of the event is fluid. So it will happen soon, perhaps not percisely on 10/14/2008 but around that time. They want to ensure our safety before proceeding...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: Lakes on August 28, 2008, 05:10:26 AM
Jeez... can`t these guys just use an old fashioned radio like we do??, you`d think they`d be able to coble one together... ;D
;D ;D... LOL
Quote from: newbie123 on August 29, 2008, 10:53:43 PMZ.monkey, claims such as yours needs a little proof to help people believe, and even consider what you just said (this is how people sort out the fruitcakes from the logical folks). If you have have physic abilities, can you tell us what the DOW and S&P will do on Tuesday, or some other event.
Predictions and miracles usually backfire. Because if you're right people start praying to you as a god instead of taking responsibility for their own life (see Jesus for an example, who didn't want to be worshipped). Also, today predictions are not as reliable as in earlier times because there are strong forces close to balance and just a little bit might tip it over (see for example the US elections where only a few votes decided for the president). So the best way seems to walk your own walk and follow your own guidance and others will follow if they see that it works better. Nothing to proof, nothing to preach.
I also think that "logic" doesn't prevent a "cult". Actually, my opinion is that some areas of "logical" science are surrounded by cult-like ideas, and that many "official" religions are very cult-like (in the broader sense of the word).
There is a difference between a Psychic and a Medium.
The main difference between a Medium and a Psychic is that a Psychic can draw information from your aura, which can provide knowledge about both current and future events, whereas a Medium is the conduit between the physical world and the spirit world. A Medium works on a different level than a psychic and usually offers a different type of information. Every Medium is psychic but not every Psychic is a medium. A Medium is passive, more like a telephone than an active participant whereas a Psychic plays an active part in getting the information.
Everyone is psychic to greater or lesser extent and these abilities can be developed with practise. A medium has developed their psychic sensitivities to the point where they can sense presences, receive and accurately interpret messages, and relay information, healing and assistance from Spirit.
A Medium is a person who has the ability of receiving information by contacting someone who has passed to the spirit world. The information a Medium relays may describe personality traits and physical characteristics of the person in spirit that is communicating through the Medium to the sitter. The information may include memories of the life they shared together on earth, details of how they passed into spirit or references to the spirits' knowledge of the sitter?s earth life now. Unlike a Psychic, the information that comes through to the Medium is not picked up through the person who is still living.
Mediumship is more than just delivering messages, it?s about the confirmation that our ?spirit? lives on, once we leave our physical bodies and that we are still connected to those who have passed on before us. A Medium simply repeats the conversation that he is having with the spirit world back to the sitter. So unlike a Psychic, nothing that a Medium gives is based on their personal feelings, impressions, or intuition, because a Medium is totally removed from the reading. A Medium is an instrument for the spirit world or a voice on earth for spirit.
A Psychic is a person who reads the energies either around a person or a place and they often use tools to help establish a link. They are sensitive to the auric fields of people and latent energies and impressions left on inanimate objects and places. They are able to pick up on detailed parts of a person?s life and will normally give information relating to our personal life such as our job, our personal relationships, family and friends, or our home. A Psychic may use psychometry such as holding something like car keys, or watch or a ring and give a reading based on the vibrations or impressions that they pick up from them. They might also use tarot cards and give a Tarot reading based on the images and impressions that they see in the cards. A Psychic does not possess the ability to see or communicate with Spirit.
You cannot really predict that accurate in my opinion, because we all have FREE WILL and can change future events in our lifes as well as others.
Nice to see that other channels are backing up this 14th October information, but again the only Proof will be when it happens.
I just think people should be Open and Aware, because if does happen their will be alot of people ending up being confused and scared as it will take them right out of their comfort zone.
If it does NOT happen, then there will be alot of the usual old You So's and we will await the next Claim :) bit like FE/OU really hehe ;D
Cheers
Sean.
Orbs, I agree, belief in a math based system taken to an extreme can make people seem nutty as well ... They're extremists (or cultists), just like someone who goes the opposite direction against all common sense and math-logic. I believe anything is possible and some things just aren't likely to occur.
Just for fun, have you ever contemplated why we have a radiation belt that surrounds this planet? Can you say "prison planet". That has always gave me reason to wonder deep inside.
thaelin
??? ;D :D
Quote from: z.monkey on August 28, 2008, 11:11:36 PM
Hahahaaaahahahaha.....
Immigra, Immigra, run....
The feeble humans might get us...
The INS would try to arrest God if they could...
Blessed Be...
Posted today on YouTube
UFO over the City El Salvador May 2008
Fake?
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=fKmkq1Bnknk
Z.monkey, I have had a thought pondering in my mind for a while now regarding archangel micheal and lucifer. When I say lucifer i don't mean the devil as lucifer is a different entity whose latin translation means light bringer. I am toying with the idea that michael was also known as enlil and enki who created us is also known as lucifer or light bringer in the ancient sumerian times.
As you may know enki was a master genetisist and his brother was enlil and there father was aton.
regards,
craig.
i'm not saying i buy any of this: But if the aliens were bent on destroying us (which if they have been monitoring our TV, i couldn't blame them much for wanting lol), they would have soon after 1945 when we showed our potential for producing nuclear weapons. There really wouldn't be any reason to keep us around: As a food source, we are much more trouble than we are worth (pigs and cows are easier to handle, have more useful meat on them, don't murder their own, and don't bitch and complain much lol).
Any civilization with the technology to transverse interstellar space (or interdimensional space or even time if that is what you believe) would be able to utterly destroy us by a thousand different and fun ways... Their biggest problem would be deciding which method to use and getting the recording equipment properly set up so the folks at home could watch too, lol ;)
Every day they have "let us" continue our senseless and irritating existence is that much less mineral and other resources that they could exploit once we were gone. Some say they are letting us "terraform" ("alienform actually) the planet to be more conductive to their ideal environment (maybe they breath CO2 and methane, lol)... But again, they could do this very easily without us and don't need the agg ;) ..Or to take the risk that we could irradiate or otherwise poison the whole place making it much less desirable.
So it would be irrational, imo, to think that their appearance would mean invasion.... At least in the military sense. But what they would be invading is our psyche, and changing everything in our culture.
Think about this: If you wanted to brainwash the entire world, using well-known and effective mind control techniques... On the grandest possible scale... You could engineer a fake alien invasion (with control of the mass media this would be quite possible, as proved in the 1930's with the Martian "War of the Worlds" broadcast), and shake everyone's psyche to the very core. Most people would be put into traumatic mental shock and "disassociate".... So then your carefully-crafted suggestions would be grasped by the public like drowning men grabbing at a life ring.
Perhaps channeling is not as weird as it might seem. It is currently a trend word and I hope we will find better terms for it, without the mysticism around it. Most of the Old Testament is channeled (how else got the information here anyway, since the books were written by humans). Some of the New Testament is channeled (Yeshua was pretty good at it). Other prophets channel (also their own self). In fact, everybody can (learn to) channel. And channel almost everybody and everything (that has consciousness, which would be all). A composer who writes a whole CD's worth of music in two hours: inspiration = channeling. A message therapist whose "hands know" exactly what to do: intuition = channeling. A programmer who can write beautiful code. Somebody who is praying and then listens (= meditation), whether priest or not. A scientist who gets a (metaphorical) light bulb lit. Somebody who has a green thumb (channels whom??).
So as you can tune into a radio station you can also tune into consciousness, and the quality may vary: uplifting, sad, scary, truth, comedy, many commercials, no commercials... So what needs practice is what is the right station for you and how to avoid interferences to have a clear channel. And as in the military, there are also jammers.
People have channeled all the time. Now it's somewhat easier, also because it can be more openly practiced (besides of other reasons). Nowadays it doesn't have to be done in secrecy, and a spooky environment is not necessary, that's just for show.
BTW, regarding Hollywood movies: I don't think most of them are well balanced (US hero saves the world, all foreigners are clueless idiots but speak fluent English -- come on!).
Quote from: Nomen luni on August 30, 2008, 08:35:18 AM
You guys worry me. Don't go thinking that if something weird comes floating out of the sky it will definitely be friendly. You've all seen 'Independence Day', right? Don't be the guy standing with a placard on top of a tall building.
Nomen lun
I think in general the more power a group of people have the greater the chance is that they will use it wisely .
A group that could make a ship 2000 miles long has technology that we probably won't even be able to imagine for many years.
How much of this technology would be available to an individual? How much damage could one of these people do with this high tech stuff if they chose to use it for negative purposes?
Lets look at humanity for example . We can hardly even maintain one space station .
If you were to give humanity some high technology we would use it for our own selfish desires ..........and end up doing damage with it
Humanity is right on the edge of self destruction in many ways . If we don't nuke ourselves we are likely to destroy the ability of earth to support life. WE can't be trusted . WE are to selfish and narrow minded to be able to handle any real power without turning it against others .
A race of people that have the power to build a 2000 mile long ship has the power to destroy itself in an almost infinite number of ways. There is no way that they could protect themselves from their own technology if they were basically hostile.
gary
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jibbguy, interesting thought. The odds of that happening is probably far greater than an actual Alien encounter. How long has the government had their own personal UFOs now, 60 years? (If all the UFOs spotted around area 51 are real, that is) ...
orbs, Nice explanation of channeling.
Quote from: orbs on August 30, 2008, 09:22:26 AM
Perhaps channeling is not as weird as it might seem. It is currently a trend word and I hope we will find better terms for it, without the mysticism around it. Most of the Old Testament is channeled (how else got the information here anyway, since the books were written by humans). Some of the New Testament is channeled (Yeshua was pretty good at it). Other prophets channel (also their own self). In fact, everybody can (learn to) channel. And channel almost everybody and everything (that has consciousness, which would be all). A composer who writes a whole CD's worth of music in two hours: inspiration = channeling. A message therapist whose "hands know" exactly what to do: intuition = channeling. A programmer who can write beautiful code. Somebody who is praying and then listens (= meditation), whether priest or not. A scientist who gets a (metaphorical) light bulb lit. Somebody who has a green thumb (channels whom??).
So as you can tune into a radio station you can also tune into consciousness, and the quality may vary: uplifting, sad, scary, truth, comedy, many commercials, no commercials... So what needs practice is what is the right station for you and how to avoid interferences to have a clear channel. And as in the military, there are also jammers.
People have channeled all the time. Now it's somewhat easier, also because it can be more openly practiced (besides of other reasons). Nowadays it doesn't have to be done in secrecy, and a spooky environment is not necessary, that's just for show.
BTW, regarding Hollywood movies: I don't think most of them are well balanced (US hero saves the world, all foreigners are clueless idiots but speak fluent English -- come on!).
Orbs
I agree
channeling is a good description of how much of the information was recieved .
WHat I find totally unbelievable is that a living and loving God would expect us to follow ONE 2000 year old set of teachings and refuse to comunicate with is in any way . .......and more unbelievable still .....we are told that we will be punished FOREVER if we make the wrong choice in this life.
I want no part of a God that is so petty and cruel.
Fortunately the evil that is taught about God is the work of humanity ....not of God .
God is love .......that is all that we really need to know
God IS trying to comunicate with ALL of us ALL the time .
The religions of the world can't allow us to listen to our hearts because they fear loosing their "power base"
gary
Everyone has 3 optic nerves (at least they are all similar)
one to the left eye, one to the right eye and one that just terminates in your forehead that seems to have no purpose (clearly visible and even labelled) in medical books when you see the area of the brain known as the "circle of willis")
You have the requisite bunch of nuts who see this and are always going on about "opening your third eye"
Ever notice how ANY TOPIC involved with this type of thing always involves a "level of consciousness" shift via either meditation or medication? Only a medium or a psychic (who eventually produces a book, DVD or charm with a pricetag) can see this stuff... yet they all claim anyone can do it.
Come on... show us how to do something *kinetic or *pathic while "wide awake" without a trip to the new age store for crystals or a "must read" report for $9.95...
I won't hold my breath for a coherent response.
But if any of you "channelers" out there happen to be on the cosmic horn with "christ" whoever, ask them if this ship utilizes metallic hydrogen in it's frame and some form of gravitational interruption circuitry to allow something of that size to not be affected by nearby celestial bodies...
whatever, we're all a little nuts... I still think I can eventually resonate water someday without anything resembling electrolysis... I also try to devise how I might someday use a modified cavitation experiment to produce the above mentioned metallic hydrogen AND create a power source that works like a synthesized electric eel cell. problem is at 40 years old and trapped in this good old U.S.A. Inc. "distributed indentured servitude" I will most likely just fill a notebook with mindless drivel for my kids to sort out.... oh well... onward to 10/14/08...
@Sean
Did you already make the video of a fake ship to post on Oct 14th? Some good Sc-Fi here! ;D You have a great imagination... you should write books. ;)
Jason
Edit: To all who have supposedly been communicating with aliens... Did you forget to ask how to make an OU device?.. Hehe. ;D
Quote from: 4Tesla on August 30, 2008, 04:50:15 PM
@Sean
Did you already make the video of a fake ship to post on Oct 14th? Some good Sc-Fi here! ;D You have a great imagination... you should write books. ;)
Jason
Edit: To all who have supposedly been communicating with aliens... Did you forget to ask how to make an OU device?.. Hehe. ;D
Hi Jason
You got too stay open minded on all levels in life mate, whether it Aliens or FE/OU.
Listen to others and stay open, but do not take anyones word for anything in life, always prove it to yourself, it is the only way.
For over 16 years I have studied most religions and in depth the history of most of the famous Mediums and Psychics for the last 150 documented years.
After studying that I still did not take anyones word on any of it, although very interesting, so set out to learn how too shift my own vibration and to try and see if I could tap into these unseen energies/dimensions.
My conclusion?
I got my own personal proof of what I wanted and have deep set SELF believes off the back of that time and experience. Everyone has their own truths and good on them, so I no longer judge anyones believes or opinions as it all depends on their experiences.
Most peoples mocking's are based on the Physics of this heavy dimension we all chose to exist on and that is fine because that is within their comfort zone and where they should be and no one should try and change their opinion on that.
When or even if they choose to look deeper and seek their own truth while doing their path on this life is completley their FreeWill to do so and also within their time frame.
The problem I have is that if a unusual situation does appear that shatters the 3rd dimension illusion we all live in arrives, that will still not be enough proof, because they are not ready for it.
So always keep an open mind, you are not expected to accept others believes, but take time to listen and that way you are aware and a little prepared just in case they end up being correct.
Cheers
Sean
Quote from: hypersoniq on August 30, 2008, 04:15:52 PMCome on... show us how to do something *kinetic or *pathic while "wide awake" without a trip to the new age store for crystals or a "must read" report for $9.95...
Maybe not coherent enough for you: Have you ever stared at somebody from behind? If they are not too concentrated doing something they will start feeling watched and look around. Now, I found that interesting. I did experiment with that when I was using the train or bus. So I found that it's not actually the staring (maybe in the beginning it is) but the focus one keeps. Like, if you practice it a little you can scan for a person and then just hold your mental focus a little but look somewhere else (this also doesn't require much concentration or other force). It can also depend in what emotional state you are, and how open (heart). For example, some women love being watched and as soon as they
feel it they will react differently. Some are not so aware of how this works (but many are!) and for example simply put their hair in place. You can do a lot of experiments. Be playful, do it in a non-manipulating way (like, let yourself get caught doing it or reveal yourself by smiling [not necessarily in the person's direction]).
Another thing to play with would be the contagiousness of smiling. If you're really in a good mood (not just pretending to be smiling like for example the culture is asking for), you will notice that if you for example walk around a corner, some people will also have a smile on their face, without first having seen you. Maybe to have an honest smile is not always so easy to have at first (and some people might even think you are retarded or up to something), but it's also an inner state and can be practiced (wide awake). Maybe the first few times you might "fake it until you make it." :)
Clanzer, I'm all for being open minded. But.. Do you draw a line somewhere? Or are you open minded to all ideas regardless of how crazy they seem?
If I told you: 200 giant pink unicorns are coming to earth tomorrow from the moon, would you not label me as nuts?
I think it is pretty interesting topics like this have been showing up on this inventor's forum.
Inventors and experimenters are a very important part of our future as a species.
I think one of the things to bring out is that we humans are the ones that must drive the engines of improvement. We must see the improvements in our imagination. Already many folks are no longer believing the BS from the centuries. I think this is a large part of the explanation that we could be getting some help. We are not praying in weakness and supplication. We are just in way over our heads and we could use some help.
This is how it could be possible for another race to help us.
Recently a string of events led me to a website that has been around for 10 years, but I managed to miss.
http://wingmakers.com/ (http://wingmakers.com/)
Have a look. There are over 100 pages, but you will not be sorry.
There are embedded codes that awaken deep level interest in the information. There are paintings, poetry, music, philosophical writings, and a novelized account of how the discovery came to be.
It also shows a lot about stuff deep inside the government's security and technology. - to levels way beyond anything the good folks on youtube even mention.
Be sure to read the 8 chapters of the book as well as the interviews. (the interviews pick up where the novel lets off.)
After reading these pages, one might have a much better understanding of the reasons a very large ship might come here for 3 days and merely hover. I am curious myself and will surely look up on Oct 14th. (I hope the skies are clear ;) )
jeanna
@newbie123
I, for one, would not label you as "nuts." Tomorrow I would be concerned about your state of mental health. Today, I would listen to you with a heaping spoonful of scepticism.
But I would not label you "nuts."
Clanzer, I am eagerly awaiting your response, if you choose to do so.
Peace,
M.
From my POV, there's a chance of something happening on that October 14th in particular, but not much.
I never pay attention to "channeled material" not because I think such thing is impossible, but because I know that whenever somobody believes to be channeling a "higher being" or "an ascended master" or whatever you like to call it, he is simply in contact whit a kind of entity that is known, to those that rule the world, by the name of "spirits of error". These beings exist and have a taste of abusing of human stupidity and gullibility. These "spirits of error" are abundant, and they are the responsible of the whole chapter of spiritism related phenomena.
They have access to higuer truths, and thats what make them so atractive and wise in the eyes of their "followers". You must have heard of the most famous channelers like the one of Commander Ashtar Sherahan, Kryon, Ascended Master Saint Germain, etc, etc and the unfamous Sheldan Needle "Golden Tree" website, ah, and never forget the "Bon Giovanni" chapter.
That whole load of bullcrap is real, in the sense that there is a real contact with a "spiritual being", but then stops all the good that can be said about it, because the spirits of error have one and only goal: To make many people go the wrong way and believe in silly things.
Don't tell me I did not warn you.
Quote from: newbie123 on August 30, 2008, 06:35:19 PM
Clanzer, I'm all for being open minded. But.. Do you draw a line somewhere? Or are you open minded to all ideas regardless of how crazy they seem?
If I told you: 200 giant pink unicorns are coming to earth tomorrow from the moon, would you not label me as nuts?
Yep you do draw a line, you draw your own personal line and you leave what does not fit and take what does, that is the whole point.
If your line is closer than someone elses, then fair enough, but let others draw their own line.
I am not a great one for Galactic federations and Star people etc etc, it intrigues me and if you dig deeper there are certain areas that do make sense (There is also alot that does not) , but too others, this is what fits for them, so let them have it.
I would not label you nuts for any claims you make, because that is your opinion mate.
If you told the millions of people who watched Star Trek when it first came out that oneday, they would have a little handheld device that allowed them to not only talk to each other, but also see pictures of each other, they would of said I was nuts.
A few years later, different story.
Cheers
Sean.
Sorry Sean.. I meant @z.monkey... I'll keep an open mind, but this is some pretty far out stuff and has been talked about in this thread like it is fact.
Jason
Clanzer,
Don't kid yourself. Everyone has a "crazy" threshold set in their own mind... But I too believe in keeping 'negative' opinions to myself, no matter how far out someone seems.
Howdy Y'all,
Shooter001, Lucifer was an Archangel that rebelled against Heavens Divine plan. He was uncreated by Christ Michael 20 years ago. Aton is another name for Christ Michael, whose name is actually very long and is called many things by many cultures. I am not familiar with Enlil and Enki.
Orbs, Yeah, receiving information from your spirit could be considered channeling. This includes soul memory, communications with other spirits, communications with higher beings. This encompasses any non-physical information exchange in the Etheric, Astral, and Mental Planes...
Resonanceman, Yeah they have a million years of engineering advancement over us, VERY sophisticated technology.
Hypersoniq, Your "third eye" is not a physical thing. You have Etheric clairvoyance, Astral clairvoyance and Mental clairvoyance which can be perceived by you physical brain when you are advanced enough and you DNA chains are fully activated. Someone has to have the spiritual advancement to utilize these these things.
4Tesla, Yes, they are going to give us plans for OU/FE devices.
CLaNZeR, One's reality is based on his perception of things which are not on the physical plane. In essence one level of knowledge defines their reality. When one opens their spiritual eyes (third eye, etheric, astral, and mental perception) ones reality changes drastically.
Newbie123, the pink unicorns have hooves. They have no opposable thumbs to hold tools therefore they could not have built an interdimensional starship to come visit Earth on 10/14/2008.
Jeanna, you have a marvelous jewel there. The wingmakers material repaired my DNA. I have sound tracks that I made from the DNA chamber music. I listen to them when I am working. It has been 4 weeks or so and I have noticed the difference. It is probably that material which makes it seem to some people here that I have lost my bloody mind. The contrary is true, I found my MIND (Mental Body). You are on the right track there, go get it...
ChileanOne, The pieces of the puzzle lie all about our planet. All we have to do is find them...
4Tesla, Truth is indeed stranger than fiction...
Subtle truths are stored in many stories. You take a piece from here a nibble from there and start putting the real story together from all these pieces that you find it starts to build the truth. The truth of our heritage has been very carefully hidden from us by our former malefactors. It is up to us to figure out the puzzle. It is hard to do, but not impossible. The coming ship is going to help us to put the pieces together, then we will know beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are children of the stars placed here to experience creation as our benevolent creator intended.
Blessed Be...
Hello All,
Keeping an open mind to the truth is a good thing. Keeping an open mind to a lie, becomes a deception. The Bible says that in the last days there would be a great deception that would deceive even God's elect, if it were possible.
Channeling these "Ancients" is nothing new. New Age witches channeling these "ancients" who have been known by many other names. Demons, fallen Angels, Principalities, Powers, and the Rulers of the darkness of this world, to name just a few Biblical names. Also known as "familiar spirits".
Satan is a liar and the father of all lies. In him is no truth. Jesus called him the "Prince of the Power of the Air". He is even now, in preparation of planet earth, that will usher in the last great deception, as the world plummets soon, into the 7 year tribulation, spoken of in the Book of Daniel, Revelations, and a host of other biblical books.
Do NOT be deceived by lieing signs and wonders of these last days, for there will be many. But rather, repent, make a decision to change, and trust in the one living God and in His son Jesus Christ the Savior of Mankind, the Prince of Peace, the Way, the Truth and the Life. "For all those who loved not the truth, shall believe a lie!"
Be not deceived by those who cloak lies in religious over tones or words. "And ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free."
Worshiping the Creator, and not the Creation,
Bruce
Romans 10:9-10
Howdy TPU Bruce,
What if this information comes directly from Christ Michael (The Archangel Michael) and Christ Sananda (Jesus Christ)? Would you trust it then? Why is it so hard to believe that beings on the physical plane of existence can know the truth? Why is it so hard to believe that Angels and Archangels would talk to us from the higher planes and send their emissaries, and even themselves in a great starship. I don't think that this is deception. Then again we will see. Jesus Christ said "Trust until you are deceived." I do not feel deceived. In fact I have a nice warm fuzzy about this one...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on August 30, 2008, 08:38:55 PM
Howdy TPU Bruce,
What if this information comes directly from Christ Michael (The Archangel Michael) and Christ Sananda (Jesus Christ)? Would you trust it then? Why is it so hard to believe that beings on the physical plane of existence can know the truth? Why is it so hard to believe that Angels and Archangels would talk to us from the higher planes and send their emissaries, and even themselves in a great starship. I don't think that this is deception. Then again we will see. Jesus Christ said "Trust until you are deceived." I do not feel deceived. In fact I have a nice warm fuzzy about this one...
Blessed Be...
Hi Z Monkey,
Do you hear voices?
Jason
Quote from: z.monkey on August 30, 2008, 08:38:55 PM
Howdy TPU Bruce,
What if this information comes directly from Christ Michael (The Archangel Michael) and Christ Sananda (Jesus Christ)? Would you trust it then? Why is it so hard to believe that beings on the physical plane of existence can know the truth? Why is it so hard to believe that Angels and Archangels would talk to us from the higher planes and send their emissaries, and even themselves in a great starship. I don't think that this is deception. Then again we will see. Jesus Christ said "Trust until you are deceived." I do not feel deceived. In fact I have a nice warm fuzzy about this one...
Blessed Be...
Z monkey
I agree .
Communication with higher self should easy and natural .
We all have the ability to recieve information and guidance from above .
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If most of what we have been taught in our schools and churches is untrue. Then the truth will at first seem untrue.
gary
Howdy 4Tesla,
You have the right to doubt, not to ridicule. No I do not hear audible voices. Little demons are not wispering in my ears. The source of information is mental, and I am not the source of all the information that I am aware of.
Resonanceman, right on. We are learning that what we are taught by man is a deception, and one must pry the truth out of the world with toil, blood, sweat and tears...
Blessed Be...
Sorry.. just wondering your mental status.. nothing personal.
Jason
Quote from: z.monkey on August 30, 2008, 08:52:21 PM
Howdy 4Tesla,
Resonanceman, right on. We are learning that what we are taught by man is a deception, and one must pry the truth out of the world with toil, blood, sweat and tears...
Blessed Be...
Z monkey
Blood sweat and tears?
That sounds like the hard way to me.
I prefer discenrment .
If it isn't love it is not of God.
gary
Quote from: 4Tesla on August 30, 2008, 08:58:54 PM
Sorry.. just wondering your mental status.. nothing personal.
Jason
Jason
How do you define mental status?
If you mean the ability to be at peace with your own life. .
Or to be at least relatively happy even when times get tough.
Or the ability to the ability to be kind when it is important to be kind.
If the ability to do these things define metal status,
Then I would say that Z monkey is WAY ahead of you .
gary
Quote from: resonanceman on August 30, 2008, 09:22:03 PM
Jason
How do you define mental status?
If you mean the ability to be at peace with your own life. .
Or to be at least relatively happy even when times get tough.
Or the ability to the ability to be kind when it is important to be kind.
If the ability to do these things define metal status,
Then I would say that Z monkey is WAY ahead of you .
gary
I know people that have mental illnesses, that have a chemical imbalance in their brain without their medication.. with their medication they are normal, and without they hear voices and can even be dangerous... not talking about intelligence.. I have seen Z Monkey's work and I'm very impressed.
Jason
Quote from: 4Tesla on August 30, 2008, 08:49:13 PM
Hi Z Monkey,
Do you hear voices?
Jason
Hi Z Monkey,
I'm sorry that I brought this up.
Jason
Howdy 4Tesla,
Thanks, I really need to get back to working on the Infinity Transformer. This time of year my energy is at its peak. My birthday is August 20 and the month around that time I always have a hard time getting everything I want to do, done. This year, on top of all the other things that I am normally trying to do, we had the 08/08/08 event and the announcement of the 10/14/2008 event that made things all the more hectic. It is hard for me to put this 10/14/2008 event out of my mind because it is just so exciting for me. Something that I have been looking forward to for a long time, albeit not in this form. Through the last 20 years I had been expecting something prophetic to happen, but didn't know what form it would take. Now, with the information I have gathered this year I finally know the form, now just have to wait. So maybe I can get the Infinity Transformer working in the meanwhile...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on August 30, 2008, 08:38:55 PM
Howdy TPU Bruce,
What if this information comes directly from Christ Michael (The Archangel Michael) and Christ Sananda (Jesus Christ)? Would you trust it then? Why is it so hard to believe that beings on the physical plane of existence can know the truth? Why is it so hard to believe that Angels and Archangels would talk to us from the higher planes and send their emissaries, and even themselves in a great starship. I don't think that this is deception. Then again we will see. Jesus Christ said "Trust until you are deceived." I do not feel deceived. In fact I have a nice warm fuzzy about this one...
Blessed Be...
"If anyone comes preaching another Gospel, be it angel or man, other than that which you have received, let him be anathema (accursed)"
If any person, voice, angelic apparition, neon sign in the sky, preaches or teaches contrary to the Word of God (The Bible) they are liars and the truth is not in them. "For even Satan himself appears as an angel of light."
Not all that glitters is gold. "Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but my word shall abide forever!"
"My sheep know my voice, and the voice of a stranger they will not follow."
Psalms 150:6
Romans 10:9-10
Bruce
Quote from: shooter001 on August 27, 2008, 01:21:01 PM
A trans channel who has written her own books has put her reputation on the line by stating that on the 14th October 2008 a 2000 mile long UFO will hover for 3 days in the sky for all to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zhzvbBOu_I
2000 mile long? Must be some kind of sausage! What kind of meat? Definitely the answer to world hunger...
cheers
chrisC
The answer to world hunger, and most of the world's other problems, is cheap, clean, and abundant energy ;) .. Which will cause greater prosperity and education in the Third World, which is a well-proven means of lowing population growth and a great way to gain sustainability and stability for the planet.
Free Energy for water well pumps, for desalinization of sea water for irrigation, for farm tractors, for food processing and transportation. Anything that works to stop this from happening comes under my definition of "evil" (...which imo has nothing to do with deities or demons): It is selfish, self-centered behavior that works against the better good of Humanity as a species. We are animals, in great part governed by instinct. But we are also gifted with reason. This reason is a gift that allows us to sift through the conflicting instincts: That of working for the greater good; for the prospering of the species... and those instincts for self-preservation and self-aggrandizement, or perhaps defined by protecting our own personal blood line (narrow tribal instinct). How we juggle these conflicting instincts is how we are judged as human BEINGS.
I can't imagine the aliens would judge us well ;)
Quote from: z.monkey on August 30, 2008, 08:15:13 PM
Lucifer was an Archangel that rebelled against Heavens Divine plan. He was uncreated by Christ Michael 20 years ago.
Where do you get this crap from?? Yes, Lucifer was an Archangel, one of the most beautiful, no horns, no cloven hoofs, no forked tongue. As beautiful as Michael, but vain, which is where his trouble began. So if you meet the bringer of light, don't expect the enLightenment to set you free, it will be a larger more beautiful and complex LIE. The main problem with all this channeling shit is that you don't know which side they are on. The earth is the domain of the devil.
Don't be fooled.
Howdy Y'all,
Here's a thought. Hurricane Gustav is bearing down on New Orleans. A category 4 hurricane which is sure to generate unmitigated destruction along the gulf coast and as of this moment is headed directly for New Orleans. Seems to be a mirror event for the Hurricane Katrina event which caused billions in damage in New Orleans and on the gulf coast and killed thousands of people. The rebuilding effort still continues to this day. And now Gustav is coming to reverse all that progress.
So in the need for a benevolent show of force, what if the Galactic Federation ship was to mitigate the storm. What if they were to use their vast power to reduce this category 4 hurricane to a spring shower? Would that be a sufficient show of benevolent force? Would that convince this world that they are here to help us and not invade and take over our planet? After the storm clears, their ship is left hovering in the sky above New Orleans, which is right next to Alabama. If this ship is truly 1000 miles in diameter it would cover parts of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama if it was centered above New Orleans. Indeed, the eyes of the world are centered on New Orleans right now. There couldn't be a better place for an event like this to occur.
Well, anyway, just a thought...
Blessed Be...
OK OK
Lets just make it a category 3 for now and just threaten New Orleans and at the last moment drop to a category 2 and missing New Orleans by 40 miles west.
Will this make you believe? Or is that just not enough. ;)
@AB Hammer,
Weather modification study of Gustav, he could be on to something there:
http://www.data4science.net/essays.php?EssayID=831 (http://www.data4science.net/essays.php?EssayID=831)
Take care,
Michel
I don't think parking a 2000 mile long ship in our atmosphere and blocking out the sun
for three days is gonna be in our best interest. What do you think that thing will do to
our weather patterns? Mmm?
Quote from: Goldsphere on August 31, 2008, 07:47:44 PM
Where do you get this crap from?? Yes, Lucifer was an Archangel, one of the most beautiful, no horns, no cloven hoofs, no forked tongue. As beautiful as Michael, but vain, which is where his trouble began. So if you meet the bringer of light, don't expect the enLightenment to set you free, it will be a larger more beautiful and complex LIE. The main problem with all this channeling shit is that you don't know which side they are on. The earth is the domain of the devil.
Don't be fooled.
Howdy Goldshere,
Earth
WAS the domain for the devil. That age just ended in 1957. At that time we moved from the Picean Age to the Aquarian Age. The remnant of evil that is on Earth is being controlled. We were the puppets of dark forces to learn the lessons which that life can teach. Now we are moving into an age of light where we will learn new, different lessons that enlightenment can teach. Earth is a learning planet and there only so many lessons to be learned by being subservient to wicked forces. We have learned these lessons and now need to move on to continue our soul growth. As for Lucifer, I only have the information that I have been provided by Christ Michael, I didn't know him personally. Christ Michael being the Great Creator Son of Nebadon, I kind of feel I have to trust him since he is the highest spiritual authority in our universe, Nebadon. I guess I feel stuck between in irresistible force and an unmovable object, I have information which is provided me, but cannot physically verify it. I have to trust that it is true, and don't feel qualified to question the source. If an Archangel came to you and gave you information would you question the validity of it? Hopefully the events in the near future will help to clarify the situation...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 01, 2008, 12:40:45 AM
Earth WAS the domain for the devil. That age just ended in 1957.
IS the domain of the devil. I see you are fooled already. Have you noticed any loving feelings
being more common around this war ravaged planet since 1957? Seriously, wake up.
Quote from: z.monkey on September 01, 2008, 12:40:45 AM
If an Archangel came to you and gave you information would you question the validity of it?
Hell Yes!! I am not about to trust some beautiful apparition just because it throws a few names about.
Draw your sword on such a creature and force it to name it's master. I notice you don't even use the name
Jesus, you've exchanged it for some sanskrit name, hence losing the power of the name.
Howdy Goldsphere,
Well, believe it or not conditions are getting better on the physical plane of Earth. And yes, I have used Jesus' name. Christ Sananda is Jesus Christ as he was known on Earth ~2000 years ago. Look back through my posts and you will find many references to Jesus. Christ Sananda (Jesus) is the Archangel in charge of our planet. Christ Michael is His boss, the Archangel in charge of our universe, Nebadon. I am not some feelgood new age guru space case. I have a solid background is spiritual research and really kind of resent your attack. But, you do have the right to be skeptical. You can research this and find out on your own. The Galactic Federation is replete with who we consider to be Ascended Masters, Angels, and Archangels. Regardless of what the Bible states Angels, and Archangels do require ships to traverse space. Just because you don't see their ships when you look up into the sky doesn't mean they don't exist. Their ships are interdimensional. They normally exist beyond our level of perception, and can lower themselves to the 3rd density (our level of perception) on demand. I agree with you, if some random spirit appears in front of you and claims to be Jesus or Michael then yes you have to demand credentials. But if they provide the credentials you had better listen to them. Thus is the case for me. When what you consider to be GOD tells you to do something, it is advisable to do it. I am not trying to deceive anyone here, just passing along the message. Frankly, my life is going to be a lot easier once the ship is here. I am just warning you of the imminent arrival...
Blessed Be...
Well thanks for the heads up, if it doesn't appear then I won't hold it against you.
Just for the record, you do sound like a nut though. ;D
Howdy Goldsphere,
Well, you know, some days I feel like a nut, and some days I don't...
Mounds and Almond Joy...
Blessed Be...
People have been making statements like this since NASA / USSR made there 1st venture into the outer atmosphere. Just wait, it's not a long time (unlike the 2012 Zionists) then on the 15th we can all laugh and make fun of the poster. Till then at least i'll have some respect, after all the bigger the rise the harder the FALL..
Anyhow, I sure hope it?s gonna happen, I could do with a change of lifestyle. But honestly, I believe this as much as all the rest of them. >Still no SIGN!<
Quote from: z.monkey on September 01, 2008, 03:17:33 AM
Howdy Goldsphere,
Well, you know, some days I feel like a nut, and some days I don't...
Mounds and Almond Joy...
Blessed Be...
Well its kinda the same as calling someone wierd. It takes someone wierd to break the mold of thinking. The only reason you would think someone coming out with this is a nut would be issues with your beliefs and what society has taught you is right and wrong.
I have felt like im loosing my mind sometimes when learning about the archangels etc, it can blow your mind. Archangels can lie also as they have ther own agendas jsut as the demonics do, you just have to trust your feelings.
Howdy Y'all,
Uh, I guess you didn't get the commercial cross reference there, huh huh, uh, huhuhuuhuhuhhh..
Shooter001, yeah, Archangels have free will, they can do anything they want including lie to you if that is their will. But Archangels listen to GOD, which the demons don't so that is a plus. Supposedly this 10/14/2008 is mandated by Heaven (GOD) so that may make all the difference. It is Heaven that made the decision to intervene, not the Galactic Federation, they are the instrument of intervention. I have to agree that learning about higher planes of existence, alien cultures and alien technology is a completely out of the box experience, I had a hard time with it.
Mindsweeper, yeah people make up a lot of thing, but you also need to keep in mind all the real contacts that are documented but not available to the general public. The stories are out in public but not the official documents.
Blessed Be...
Trying to stay away from any side of debate, I realize once more the truth of the next thoughts.
QuoteFear and Change
Fear of thought and fear of change are the two great anchors which hold civilization back, and hold the individual back. Civilization is about to undergo the greatest change in two thousand years. Men fear it. Maeterlinck says: ?At every crossroad on the way that leads to the future, each progressive spirit is opposed by a thousand men appointed to guard the past.?
This imminent change is due to the rapidly evolving greater race of THINKERS which began to people the world about one hundred years ago in preparation for this day. Bertrand Russell says: ?Men fear THOUGHT, as they fear nothing else on earth.? Civilization is once more about to redivide and subdivide itself into THINKERS who lead and non-thinker followers.
Periodically civilization thus divides its progeny into the favored and the unfavored, and each person is himself the determining factor in his own classification. This pending re-division and reclassification of the world?s great thinkers and followers is the most stupendous which has ever taken place in the history of man.
The THINKER has always ruled, possessed, owned, commanded and become exalted above the follower, who has always been exploited as the laborer, impoverished, enslaved and oppressed. Gradually, however, the narrowing social and economic gap between the two has lessened the misery of the laborer, but the division between thinker and follower remains. Why? Because the coming new cultural age of greater luxury and higher standards of living than the world has ever known before will demand a greater percentage of thinkers and a lesser percentage of followers.
We too have free will. Eventually we exercise it at times.
But from desire to the happy ending there is a gap and we (including myself) chose to ignore the solution sometimes. This is the true meaning of ignorance, we prefer (aka express our free will) to ignore. From the same man quoted above:
QuoteSit ye not and ask, acting not, for thy desire will not come thy way to thee unaided by thy strong arms.
My point: help is within yourself.
Quote from: AB Hammer on August 31, 2008, 08:44:43 PM
OK OK
Lets just make it a category 3 for now and just threaten New Orleans and at the last moment drop to a category 2 and missing New Orleans by 40 miles west.
Will this make you believe? Or is that just not enough. ;)
Or is that still not enough. ;D
Unfortunately, most of us still don't consider that proof of aliens landing in 2 months ;)
There is the "HAARP" situation: "Longitudinal Wave Scalar Interferometry" ala Col. Beardon, is a possibility for affecting Gustav:
Look at the very weird events of this hurricane: Back where the strange pics were taken when it was near Haiti, it did a sharp 90 degree turn (unheard of for weather fronts, heading straight south for central America. Then a few hours later it made another 90 degree turn, back towards its original heading ;)
Then, last night it went overnight from 115 MPH winds to 60 MPH ; just as it approached the Gulf Coast. I doubt that there is another hurricane in recorded history that has done all that.
This is a lucky "Godsend" for the Republican National Convention. They were faced with a very bad and uncomfortable time of it, with nothing good to say about their leader bush and the last 7 years, and the embarrassing pick of the running mate which has turned out to be mostly unpopular and hard for people to understand (she has a total of 18 months experience in government as the governor of Alaska). Now, they are cutting the convention down and nearly canceling it "because of Gustav"... Very convenient for them ;)
Quote from: AB Hammer on September 01, 2008, 03:10:45 PM
Or is that still not enough. ;D
OK All
The prediction I did was all looked at from probability ( I can reed weather maps ). So are most predictions that people here and say it is prophetic prophecy. Now about the Aliens, I will have to see to believe. But I would probably like it.
PS but my prediction was correct, good for New Orleans but bad for Houma. They are in my prayers.
Quote from: jibbguy on September 01, 2008, 03:44:53 PM
I doubt that there is another hurricane in recorded history that has done all that.
Nothing unusual at all about the way Gustav acted. If you live on the Gulf Coast you will know that we watch ALL tropical systems in order to be prepared for any that might end up causing us problems. (That doesn't mean that everyone heeds the warnings.) Many tropical storms make 90 degree turns, at least one made a 360 degree turn, and there is no telling what speed they will be spinning when they make landfall, no matter how big they are in open water. Of course, I guess aliens could be directing all of the ones that do 'unusual' things.
If interested in what hurricanes have done in recorded history, check the archives at accuweather.com.
Actually i live in the FL Keys and am very experienced with hurricanes... i've lived through a number of them, even once while at sea... And never has one that i've followed closely (that's as many years as the satellite radar tracks have been available from NOAA and therefore the Weather Channel, 20 years or more), has one changed course 90 deg. or more in less than 40 miles of radius: Not once but twice in a few short hours. The total distance for these turns was less than 90 miles for both. It is also very unusual for a hurricane to lose strength when still over the very warm shallow water of the Gulf, they usually pick up steam there. Gustav dropped at least 35 MPH in a period of less than 12 hours while still in the gulf but close to New Orleans. Lol, but i certainly don't think that Aliens caused that.... HAARP, i'm not so sure of ;)
But i suspect that the weird chicane turns off Hispaniola were really a false data artifact caused by the hurricane "shifting eyes" from one center to another (and the new "eye" was 50 miles South), that ended up just looking like turns by their tracker... Because otherwise that would be practically impossible under current weather theory. But this "eye shift" is pretty strange in itself (as witnessed by the satellite photos of that same period showing 3 pentagon-shaped "eyes" had formed within a very short time frame).
Howdy Y'all,
I don't remember which hurricane it was, or how long ago it was, but there was one that I saw do a complete loop. So, yeah, hurricanes do funny things, and I doubt it had any help from man or alien. I just glad that New Orleans didn't get splattered again. Whenever that happens it ruins Mardi Gras.
So back to 10/14/2008, anyone seen any new information?
Blessed Be...
Another confirmation.
Mon Aug 11, 2008
Adamu: This is a very good and interesting question. I will answer it like this: There is ?spirit technology? and ?matter technology?. Which one you create and use depends on your own level of sophistication. When your civilisation reaches a certain maturity it cease to think of itself as ?separate? from each other and from God. Then new abilities become available to it as an inherent by-product of the level of consciousness that it attains. We, the Pleiadians are aware of ourselves in many states of being. We are everything from simple primitive agricultural folk right up to god-like beings of great power. There are aspects of us that have toyed with a ?Service To Self? mentality and a far greater number that have dedicated themselves to ?Service To Other?. We are all that and so much more. There are beings that hail from with the Pleiadian collective that are, shall we say, a little less evolved spiritually and technologically. They have been one of the groups that have attempted to influence matters on earth in ways which have not always been about humanity's best interests. They have possessed metal ships and had to use the more cumbersome methods of getting around the universe. Then there are other aspects which fly in ?light ships?. These are the majority of what the Pleiadian collective move in and what your planet is about to see quite soon. The ships are made of the stuff of light. Those who are familiar with the concept of a Merkahbah will understand this. Imagine a being that can extend its own personal electromagnetic body to a size of many miles wide. If such a being begins to counter-rotate its electromagnetic body at the speed of light then all within the confines of that electromagnetic body can be moved to a new density and thence to a new location in Space/Time instantaneously. So the craft is actually made of living light.
The ship?s ?intelligence? is a being just as you are a being. You say ?AI?. This is not entirely right. Is your intelligence ?artificial?? Is mine? We are consciousnesses that have been created by, from and within greater consciousnesses and we create ourselves and re-create ourselves all the time. But are we ?artificial?? I wouldn?t think so. We experience ourselves as real as do others. In the very same way the intelligence of the ship is ?real?. It is a being? a person? in every conceivable way. It is a consciousness that comes from within a greater consciousness. It is alive and sentient. The ship is a living being.
So this is one way in which you can gauge the level of evolution of a space-civilisation. The ones of metal ships that hop from star-portal to star-portal have not yet attained unity consciousness. The ones that have light-ships that materialise when and where their desire takes them have attained true unity consciousness. The former MAY OR MAY NOT have your best interests at heart. The latter know they you and they are one? the same. They know that harming you is harming themselves and helping you is helping themselves.
So this information will come in useful in the near future. Please keep your eyes, your hearts and your minds open. There will be a mass-sighting of a light ship over planet earth in the near future. I don?t mean a peek as might have happened in the past, I mean a greatly prolonged sighting where millions and millions of you will be able to look and stare at your leisure. We Pleiadians are, you are aware, members of the Federation Of Light. A Federation ship will quite soon be making a fly-over of certain areas of your planet. You will see. Those in control of your planet will no longer be able to cover this up. There will be no more denying. The time is come for this now.
Oh wow, Adamu, this is amazing news! When will this be happening? And where will the ship be visible from?
The answer to the when is ?soon?. Well before the end of this year. And as for the ?where? I am not at liberty to reveal this. I will say that we will fly over some densely populated regions so that many eyes can see. It would not be a good idea to reveal all the details quite yet. Please remember that those that are in control of the reins of power on your planet are very much against this happening. They would stop it if they could. They can?t. So they would make it appear as something else if they could. They would love to have it appear as if we are the enemy ? the invaders. They would love to make us look like aggressors. All of these endeavours will fail. But we need to be careful none-the-less. So here is my appeal to you:
Be a very little bit more patient with us. This will happen very soon. When it does happen please have an open heart and see us for what we are: beings that take no aggressive action. Beings that come in love. And when you see this please speak with all those you know that exhibit symptoms of fear. Lead them to the understanding that despite provocation and despite opportunity we took no aggressive action. This shows our peaceful intent. Look carefully at our ships or the video footage thereof and allow your heart and your truth to tell you if we are not of love and light. You will know by what you see.
And then, where and when will your ship land?
Not so hasty, my young friend. First we fly over in such a way as there is no more denial. Then we let things settle down a little and help to manage the fall-out. THEN, only when humanity is ready, will we take the next step. But it shall all unfold in perfect time.
That?s extremely happy and exciting news. Thank you for sharing this with me.
This news is now being disseminated through many channels like yourself. It must filter out into human consciousness in the next few months and weeks so that you will be ready when it happens. But now you tire so I shall say goodbye. I know there are more questions. Come to me again when you are fresh.
Thank you Adamu. Goodbye
The Love of The One be with you too, young one. Keep spreading your light wherever you may go.
Yet another channeled message from yesterday confirming again an October event
Ag-agria 09.01.08
For those of you who are abreast with the news of what is happening in the world, it is no surprise to find that it?s collapse is far reaching. However, what is becoming apparent, is the powerful energy generated by the people who are seeking changes that will move them onto a new level of being. The old ways are suddenly being seen as inadequate and unfulfilling, and unable to deliver what people desire. There is tiredness amongst you from being repeatedly embroiled in issues of war and confrontation. It is no longer acceptable, and your patience with your authorities is running out. You have realized that life should provide you with much satisfaction and would do so, as long as you were not having to consistently fight for acknowledgment of your entitlement to a happy and joyful life.
There is a sense of impending change even with those who are not spiritually aware, and as the new higher energies continue to reach the Earth so it will become more apparent. A stirring is taking place all over the world, and there are powerful movements forming that are determined to remove corrupt and dictatorial governments.
For a long time we have told you that the truth is coming out, and today you see this to be true. The arrogance of those who thought they had covered up their crimes and would never be discovered, has changed to one of near panic as they see the walls of truth is approaching them from all sides. There is no escape and as much as they try to stem it, the truth continues to haunt them because of their dastardly deeds. Whilst it is true that they have little in the way of regret and their consciousness is awash with denial, they can still have an awakening Light within. They dare not face it, and will unsuccessfully try to avoid answering to themselves for their crimes against Humanity.
Not a single soul can get away can get away with harming another one, without knowing exactly how that soul felt and the effect on their lives. How else will you learn to accept the right of another soul to live in peace, and in a manner chosen by them as part of their life experiences? You have laws and not always ones that are fair and just, but within your society it is the only means of exerting some measure of Law and Order. In the future when you have turned totally to the Light, you will live in absolute harmony and peace with all life. You will then be subject to Universal Law, and to live otherwise would be quite beyond your thinking or actions.
Some Dear Ones already Endeavour to live up to the higher ways of living, and do so quite successfully. It is in the recognition that All Is One that such steps can be taken, and you radiate your Light and Love wherever you are. Jesus was one such soul who cherished and loved every other soul, and he walked the Earth as an exemplary example in that he could do so even when faced by those who would take his life. You too are destined to become Masters, and the path is not as difficult as you would imagine, and will become progressively easier as the higher vibrations become grounded upon Earth.
Those of pure Light could not exist on Earth, but as you raise your vibrations so you are helping lift up those around. You have to keep your feet on the ground, as you cannot hide away, or indeed would you need to. Others who desire to uplift themselves need your support and guidance, and you must of necessity be amongst them. By your example you too can help many souls without even being aware of it, and it is a matter of walking and talking in the Light and Love that you have discovered. Being at ease when others are worried and in despair helps calm situations, and a kind word or gesture such as a smile can work wonders. The Earth and duality are not your natural home and are far from it, you came from the higher realms and intentionally left your true identity behind. You became separated from your essence for the purpose of experience and your evolution. Now you are lifting up and you are returning to your higher state of being.
The Earth has been your home for a long, long time and you have come to love it. Fortunately Mother Earth is ascending with you, and will again show her true beauty and magnificence as she returns to her pristine condition. Your destiny is absolutely guaranteed and nothing can stop your Ascension. You will understand why regardless of what is yet to happen on Earth, it is not going to prevent the outworking of all that has been planned for you. Go with the flow and adjust as necessary, because you do not have much longer before you will be part of the changes that are so eagerly sought. Allow the old to crumble into disuse as it has served its purpose now, and let those who still cling to it create their own pathway through their freewill choice.
Your hopes have been raised by the announcement of the 14th October sighting. It has caused a ripple of excitement and anticipation that has gone far afield. It is testing many people?s beliefs, but is necessary to bring forward the day when our presence will be officially recognized. The sighting will be an acknowledgment to the many Dear Ones who are ready to welcome us to Earth. A show of peaceful intent, and proof that we are benign and have no desires to enslave you as some think. It will not be the last time that such a demonstration of our presence will be made. It is the start of our plans to speed up events that will be the preliminaries to the greater show that will involve flyovers all around your world. First Contact as such will follow when we shall come and meet you on your Earth, and speedily proceed by attending to the priorities that exist. We talk first of helping the impoverished nations and overcoming starvation, thirst, the need for medical attention, safety against invasion and other natural elements.
I am Ag-agria from Sirius, and on behalf of the Galactic Federation can tell you that we have never been more adequately prepared for the tasks ahead. We have vast resources, and personnel totally aware of their responsibilities to you and the Hierarchy who stand behind them. It is no small task, yet it will be handled extremely efficiently and with minimum inconvenience to you. Simply trust us and know we have your best interest at heart. We come in love and the utmost concern for your wellbeing and welfare.
Thank you Ag-agria.
Mike Quinsey.
Howdy Y'all,
Excellente, Adamu is suggesting that they understand the concept of one. You are me, I am you, we are all pieces of a grater being called one. Goodwill to all for all is one. The information about the lightship is interesting. I had already stated that the ship would be a manufactured ship, a metal ship. However, a lightship would indicate that they are from even higher up the spiritual hierarchy than I suspected. That is good.
I also ready the Sirian Updates weekly...
Excellent work Shooter001...
I post this picture because it is the only representation I know of where Jesus looks to be jovial and happy, it is in no way intended to be a mockery...
Blessed Be...
how about that? ...for thousands of years, mankind's been thinking that 2000-mile-wide disk up there is a moon!!!!
my money says that big white 'spaceship' is still there in November! ;)
peace, earthlings
sandy
Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc
What color Nike shoes do we get?
Howdy Y'all,
Apophis? Now we have Goa'uld members? Well, I guess they are part of one also, even if they are snakeheads. So what about the Nike's?
Blessed Be...
I want my Nike shoes to be green.
And z.monkey - you have shown wisdom of my true form - You can be my First Prime.
Howdy Apophis,
Yeah, we don't worship false gods here. However you can see the business end of my P90...
Blessed Be...
Hi all,
in regaRDS TO HURRICANE ETC. i DONT KNOW ANYMORE WHEN IT WAS BUT THERE WAS A HURRICANE GOING RIGHT FOR TEXAS WITH 115 MPH AND ALL THE SUDDEN 35 MILES BEFORE THE COAST IT LOST SPEED AND WENT DOWN TO 35 MPH WITHIN 2 HOURS NOW TEWLL ME SOMETHING.
JUST LOOK AT HANA NOW IT MAKES A FULL TURN TOOhOW COMES?
JUST MY TWO CENT
GREETING
WALT
Want to believe in 14/10 2008 ;D
We were planning on going out to dinner the weekend after October 14th to celebrate my birthday. Will the appearance mess that up? Should we try to go out the previous weekend instead?
Are you near a window?
What color is the sky in your world?!!?
I wonder what excuses and/or explanations will be presented on November 1, when the mothership is
3 weeks late.
It will be interesting...
Indeed.
False Gods? The determination of which God is false varies with the believer.
Consider this: If you were in Egypt during its peak - you would most likely be worshiping Ra.
Howdy Apophiss,
My sky is currently hurricane colored. Beliefs are jaded by an individuals personality. Personally I acknowledge the Celestial Host, the Great Creator GOD of all universes to be GOD, but you know that is a belief, and beliefs subject to opinion and you know what they say about opinions. If I worship anything it is Dogs. Dogs don't hold opinions and are always happy to see you. I am not the type of person that follows a crowd, if I had been incarnated in ancient Egypt I probably would have had my own views of the universe and not let evil priests tell me what to believe.
As far a the ship is concerned, the Galactic Federation has a lot of factors to consider. They are concerned with our safety and the actual showing of the ship is contingent on having all the prerequisite factors satisfied. If that happens early the ship will be early. If that happens late, well, the ship is going to be late.
BTW the ID4 ships were pretty cool in the movie, but they were full of malevolent creatures. This ship isn't going to be like that.
Keep on Space Truckin'
Blessed Be...
Acknowledge = Belief = Opinion
So the old saying can be applied to all.
And I have to give you kudos on the "prerequisite factors" - nice insurance policy.
And here is another prediction: 05 09 17 35 52 30 for the Sept 04 2008 Mega Millions Lotto*
* with the possibility of random collisions being a factor to change the result of which number will appear or change the above presented sequence.
blessed be... that we can agree to disagree.
The authorities should have no problem suppressing this event. The week before the arrival, start putting extra fluoride in the water supplies, and remove all aluminum foil from the stores to prevent people from constructing protective hats. The day before the arrival, spray enough industrial-strength chemtrail mix to completely blot out the sky, then blame the cloud cover on the Chinese factories restarting after the Olympics, or on agricultural burning. The day of the arrival, put a big NASCAR special or political scandal on TV to distract everyone from looking out the window. Broadcasting some DJ Screw tapes through the HAARP facility could also be done to get everyone so "slowed 'n' throwed" that they wouldn't notice anything.
Not being a MIB, I wouldn't know anything at all about such matters. ;)
Howdy NOT_a_MIB,
Hahahahahahahaaaaa.... I don't think they have to worry about any of that stuff. The public is so hypnotized / brainwashed by the television that they will probably think that the massive ship in the atmosphere on the news is a re-imagination of Orson Wells doing H. G. Wells "War of the Worlds". They will think "I have already seen that". "Didn't Steven Spielburg just redo that as a movie with Tom Cruise?". "Why are they bothering me with this crap on the television again?"... "Where the hell is my sitcom?"...
I decided that I have had it with modern society, television, politics and all the other stupid, idiotic crap walking around the world today. Fork this stupid ass planet. I am leaving....
Blessed Be...
I just hope the ship will no go over USA, its probably the worse Country to fly over, come in Canada instead we are more friendly!
Quote from: TheOne on September 02, 2008, 11:22:12 PM
I just hope the ship will no go over USA, its probably the worse Country to fly over, come in Canada instead we are more friendly!
It seems to me a ship 2000 miles across can't exactly pick and choose what country's it passes over.
Even if it stayed 100 miles up it would create an eclipse across most of north america
Quote from: nul-points on September 02, 2008, 02:57:19 PM
how about that? ...for thousands of years, mankind's been thinking that 2000-mile-wide disk up there is a moon!!!!
my money says that big white 'spaceship' is still there in November! ;)
peace, earthlings
sandy
Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc
;D LOL
Z-Monkey,
I, personally, am a member of the Freemasons (commonly thought to be a branch of the Illuminati) and I am here to tell you that you are full of shit. Please go to the store and purchase a rational intellect. I think you might find it refreshing.
Grand Puba Lord of the Universe in Sector 7,
John
Howdy JRatcliff,
If you are a Freemason you are a fool. Also it is obvious that you are less than a 33rd degree, because you are an ignoramus. You should repent because your immortal soul is in grave danger.
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 03:59:44 AM
Howdy JRatcliff,
If you are a Freemason you are a fool. Also it is obvious that you are less than a 33rd degree, because you are an ignoramus. You should repent because your immortal soul is in grave danger.
Blessed Be...
I almost lost a mouthful of coffee after reading this. I'm not a Christian, mind you, but in this thread, you have been circulating some of the most unorthodox theology I've every read. Many of my Christian friends would probably say that you have been possessed by demons. The idea that
you would warn
others to repent is a bit ridiculous, IMHO.
Howdy Madsen,
Hahhahahahhhaahhaaa.... Yeah, I'm definitely not orthodox, but I do follow the teachings of Christ. I don't believe in religion because religion is a institution built by man (like Freemasonry) but the original basis for religions came from GOD, Archangels, and Angels. The spiritual basis of religions is valid, real, worth pursuing, and VERY different than the religions believe it is. I can't tell you how many times I have thrown people saying things like that. I had a woman ask me if I believed in the Bible. I told her no and explained to her that the Bible was written by men. It has been revised so many times that the original meaning has been smeared into oblivion, and that I believe in GOD, but not the Bible. Well, she thinks I am a Satanist now and won't talk to me anymore. This goes to further concrete evidence of the total misunderstanding of spiritual principles. Religion has everyone so confused that only a very few people understand what spirituality is. Of the many groups that I have encountered in my time here on Earth the ones that best understand spirituality are the American Indians and the Wiccans (both being nature based beliefs). Just about everyone else has had their conceptualization of spirituality obliterated by religion. It is sad really. This world would be a much better place if everyone held the same spiritual beliefs. Just a simple understanding of the concept of Karma would help tremendously. If there was a religion that I follow I would call it the Truth...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: madsen on September 03, 2008, 12:11:27 PMThe idea that you would warn others to repent is a bit ridiculous, IMHO.
I would guess the last sentence was probably tongue-in-cheek. Outside of (organized) religion it's more common that there are not just 2 states like good and bad (dualistic, polarized, or let's say "digital") but more like a sliding rule ("analog") or something like superposition (if you increase the "dimensions" you can have seemingly opposites at the "same time" without contradiction) and it more or less leads simply to choice what a being is affected by or confronted with. So in some sense (religious) hell (or heaven) only "exists" for those who believe in it or whose consciousness is "close" to a (collective) consciousness that believes in it (and
is real for it).
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 12:39:55 PM
Howdy Madsen,
Hahhahahahhhaahhaaa.... Yeah, I'm definitely not orthodox, but I do follow the teachings of Christ. I don't believe in religion because religion is a institution built by man (like Freemasonry) but the original basis for religions came from GOD, Archangels, and Angels. The spiritual basis of religions is valid, real, worth pursuing, and VERY different than the religions believe it is. I can't tell you how many times I have thrown people saying things like that. I had a woman ask me if I believed in the Bible. I told her no and explained to her that the Bible was written by men. It has been revised so many times that the original meaning has been smeared into oblivion, and that I believe in GOD, but not the Bible. Well, she thinks I am a Satanist now and won't talk to me anymore. This goes to further concrete evidence of the total misunderstanding of spiritual principles. Religion has everyone so confused that only a very few people understand what spirituality is. Of the many groups that I have encountered in my time here on Earth the ones that best understand spirituality are the American Indians and the Wiccans (both being nature based beliefs). Just about everyone else has had their conceptualization of spirituality obliterated by religion. It is sad really. This world would be a much better place if everyone held the same spiritual beliefs. Just a simple understanding of the concept of Karma would help tremendously. If there was a religion that I follow I would call it the Truth...
Blessed Be...
Hi z.monkey,
All that is fine as far as I'm concerned---your spiritual life is your choice. It's the anti-Freemasonry angle that puzzles me. What exactly is your gripe against them? If it's some sort of Illuminati thing, then I would just say this makes about as much sense as the idea that Girl Scouts belong to an elite organization bent on world domination.
Quote from: orbs on September 03, 2008, 12:45:25 PM
I would guess the last sentence was probably tongue-in-cheek. Outside of (organized) religion it's more common that there are not just 2 states like good and bad (dualistic, polarized, or let's say "digital") but more like a sliding rule ("analog") or something like superposition (if you increase the "dimensions" you can have seemingly opposites at the "same time" without contradiction) and it more or less leads simply to choice what a being is affected by or confronted with. So in some sense (religious) hell (or heaven) only "exists" for those who believe in it or whose consciousness is "close" to a (collective) consciousness that believes in it (and is real for it).
Hi orbs,
Yes, perhaps I read z.monkey's post too literally.
Howdy Madsen,
Well, first the Freemasons are a secret society, red flag number one. The hapless initiate cheerfully does all that he is told to do in complete ignorance. Initiates are not allowed to know the real purposes of Freemasonry, red flag number two. The initiate must work for decades to become a master before this information is given. Finally the initiate will achieve 32nd degree mastership where he is finally given an incomplete set of information. Then after some more time the (now) master will get invited to the 33rd degree, where he is informed of the true purposes of the Freemasons. This involves a wicked black magic ceremony, red flag number three, Yer OUT!!! Initiates of Freemasonry are the unwitting pawns of Evil. They do not discover this until they have invested a quarter of their lives, or more, in the process. Anything that holds dark secrets in this manner is inclined to be evil. Then add centuries of corruption on top of that and you have a really bad situation. A lot of politicians are master Freemasons. A lot of the most powerful people in the world are master Freemasons. The Illuminati recruits master Freemasons into their ranks. Secret societies such as the Freemasons and the Illuminati help the rich stay rich and get richer, while anyone who doesn't play their game gets left out in the cold. This is completely unfair for people who will not compromise their ethics and morals to join a satanic cult. These Elitist believe that they own the world and the rest of us who have solid moral and ethics get treated like chattel (human cattle) by them. So what do you think, is this fair? Is this a livable situation? Do you want to live like this, where the Elitists own and control 90% of the world and the moral majority get to scrap it out over the last 10%?
What is even more astonishing is that the highest ranks of the Freemasons, Illuminati, and the Vatican are dominated by the Annunaki and Reptilian Aliens. The policy dictated to these "institutions" is dictated by malevolent aliens. They are masters of making everyone feel nice and cozy until you are firmly in their trap, and then you are done. Join their ranks or die, perhaps even get eaten.
So, sorry if I have offended any ignorant initiates who accidentally read this. The truth is harsh, the truth hurts, and the truth can set you free. Don't be a pawn of evil. Open your eyes, make your own judgments, seek ye the truth. Do not allow someone else to determine what you believe, you must make that determination on your own.
Jesus Christ said "Seek ye the truth, and the truth shall set you free."
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 02:33:29 PM
......... Jesus Christ said "Seek ye the truth, and the truth shall set you free."
Blessed Be...
How do you know He said this???
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 02:33:29 PM
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the highest ranks of the Freemasons, Illuminati, and the Vatican are dominated by the Annunaki and Reptilian Aliens.
Hi z.monkey,
I was going to try and respond to your assertions, but then I hit this statement. Pardon my bluntness, but this is just batsh*t insane, no offense intended.
Howdy Y'all,
Illuminated, that is in the Bible. If it is not in the Bible then I may have picked it up from the other books from Jesus Christ which are not in the Bible...
Madsen, there is information available, I'm sure you can find something on the internet. There are books. Seek and ye shall find...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 02:53:22 PM
Howdy Y'all,
Illuminated, that is in the Bible. If it not in the Bible then I may have picked it up from the other books from Jesus which are not in the Bible...
Blessed Be...
But, you don't believe the Bible since it is written by men. Or do you just pick and choose what parts of it you believe?
Howdy Illuminated,
Those are specifically the words of Christ, more valued than the rest of the words in the Bible. I am going to differentiate here that Jesus is a man, a 12th level ascended master adept human. The Archangel Christ Sananda obsessed Jesus' body, with his permission, to be able to walk the Earth during his ministry. Christ Sananda is a 9th density being, an Archangel, an ALIEN being. The books of the Bible that contain Christ Sananda's words are infinitely more valueable that the rest of the Bible. I am not saying that the Bible is a bad book, it contains much wisdom. What I am saying is that the meaning of those words has been distorted over the centuries since it was written. Its not like we can calculate the checksum of the modern bible and compare it to the original copy's checksum and verify that it doesn't have any record degradation...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: Illuminated on September 03, 2008, 02:55:30 PM
But, you don't believe the Bible since it is written by men. Or do you just pick and choose what parts of it you believe?
Alot of the bible has been manipulated to suit the vatican, alot of the literature is hidden in the vatican vaults regarding aliens etc. Notice how the bible is very male orientated. Do you ever wonder why the vatican has recently become interested in having their own astronomy observatory. Also the bible was also translated from another language so the writings are based on the opinion of the interpreter. I believe the best source of historical material is in the sumerian texts which have benn unaltered for more than 3,000 years. it tells of the earths creation and how man was created, and unlike the bible describes all the planets in the solar system. It also tells similair stories to the bible but in a different manner so you can see how the bible is flawed. An example would be the bible describes the angels falling from heaven were the sumerian texts describe the annunaki traveling in the sky with flames from behind them.
Howdy Y'all,
Here is a good primer on Secret Societies...
http://www.amazon.com/Unseen-Hand-Ralph-Epperson/dp/0961413506
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 03:13:35 PM
Howdy Illuminated,
Those are specifically the words of Christ, more valued than the rest of the words in the Bible. I am going to differentiate here that Jesus is a man, a 12th level ascended master adept human. The Archangel Christ Sananda obsessed Jesus' body, with his permission, to be able to walk the Earth during his ministry. Christ Sananda is a 9th density being, an Archangel, an ALIEN being. The books of the Bible that contain Christ Sananda's words are infinitely more valueable that the rest of the Bible. I am not saying that the Bible is a bad book, it contains much wisdom. What I am saying is that the meaning of those words has been distorted over the centuries since it was written. Its not like we can calculate the checksum of the modern bible and compare it to the original copy's checksum and verify that it doesn't have any record degradation...
Blessed Be...
Why isn't it possible that the words attributed to Jesus haven't had just as much "
record degradation" and been just as "
distorted over the centuries" as any other words in the Bible? I didn't say that you thought the Bible was a "bad book". I am just referring to the fact that a couple of posts back that you said "
I had a woman ask me if I believed in the Bible. I told her no and explained to her that the Bible was written by men.." I'm simply wondering what kind of 'filter' you use to determine what is good, bad, wisdom, true words, etc.
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 02:53:22 PM
Madsen, there is information available, I'm sure you can find something on the internet. There are books. Seek and ye shall find...
Blessed Be...
But there is plenty of "information" on the internet and in books supporting just about every wacky idea you could imagine. A lot of it is completely bogus. I would require much stronger evidence before I accept that reptilian aliens are here on earth.
ETA: Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_humanoid) is some of the information available on reptilian aliens:
QuoteAccording to David Icke, reptilian humanoids are the force behind a worldwide conspiracy directed at manipulation and control of humanity. He contends that most of the world's leaders, from Bill Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton and George W. Bush to members of the British Royal Family, are in fact related to 7-foot (2.1 m) tall, blood-drinking, reptilians from the star system Alpha Draconis.
Doesn't that strike you as just a bit outlandish?
Quote from: shooter001 on September 03, 2008, 03:22:50 PM
Alot of the bible has been manipulated to suit the vatican, alot of the literature is hidden in the vatican vaults regarding aliens etc. Notice how the bible is very male orientated. Do you ever wonder why the vatican has recently become interested in having their own astronomy observatory. Also the bible was also translated from another language so the writings are based on the opinion of the interpreter. I believe the best source of historical material is in the sumerian texts which have benn unaltered for more than 3,000 years. it tells of the earths creation and how man was created, and unlike the bible describes all the planets in the solar system. It also tells similair stories to the bible but in a different manner so you can see how the bible is flawed. An example would be the bible describes the angels falling from heaven were the sumerian texts describe the annunaki traveling in the sky with flames from behind them.
And YOU can read Sumerian? Where do you get copies of the original to read to come up with this 'corrected' translation?
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 03:13:35 PM
Howdy Illuminated,
Those are specifically the words of Christ, more valued than the rest of the words in the Bible. I am going to differentiate here that Jesus is a man, a 12th level ascended master adept human. The Archangel Christ Sananda obsessed Jesus' body, with his permission, to be able to walk the Earth during his ministry. Christ Sananda is a 9th density being, an Archangel, an ALIEN being. The books of the Bible that contain Christ Sananda's words are infinitely more valueable that the rest of the Bible. I am not saying that the Bible is a bad book, it contains much wisdom. What I am saying is that the meaning of those words has been distorted over the centuries since it was written. Its not like we can calculate the checksum of the modern bible and compare it to the original copy's checksum and verify that it doesn't have any record degradation...
Blessed Be...
Where the heck is this written?
Howdy Y'all,
Thanks Shooter001, needed some help.
Illuminated, one source of this information is a book called the "Ultimate Frontier" by Richard Kieninger. Another source is my own spirit. There are multiplicative sources of information about all of these topics. Seek and ye shall find.
Madsen, the internet and books are only a couple of sources. My spirit is another source that does not lie to me...
Y'all can also learn to read the Akashic Record which covers all events of all time and is stored on the Etheric Plane of Existence. You can read it, all you have to do is develop your Etheric Clairvoyance...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 03:38:03 PMMy spirit is another source that does not lie to me...
Hmmm... I thought mine would be willing to lie to me if it would get me out of a vicious circle or some other stuck energy situation. Usually not, though.
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 03:38:03 PM
My spirit is another source that does not lie to me...
Hi z.monkey,
Is the reliability of your spirit testable? It seems you have been fairly positive toward the claim made in the OP about the aliens arriving on 10/14. If no ship appears, will you consider that possibly your spirit is mistaken?
Quote from: z.monkey
Y'all can also learn to read the Akashic Record which covers all events of all time and is stored on the Etheric Plane of Existence. You can read it, all you have to do is develop your Etheric Clairvoyance...
Is the accuracy of this Akashic Record testable as well?
Quote from: Illuminated on September 03, 2008, 03:29:14 PM
And YOU can read Sumerian? Where do you get copies of the original to read to come up with this 'corrected' translation?
I carn't read sumerian but I know a man who can. Look up zechara sitchin, he has dedicated his lifes work to translating the original sumerian tablets. If you read or listen to some of his work it will open your mind to what is being said about not trusting the bible.
Quote from: shooter001 on September 03, 2008, 04:11:23 PM
I carn't read sumerian but I know a man who can. Look up zechara sitchin, he has dedicated his lifes work to translating the original sumerian tablets. If you read or listen to some of his work it will open your mind to what is being said about not trusting the bible.
If YOU aren't doing the translating for yourself, you can't be sure what you are hearing is any more accurate than what is currently in the Bible. Why is this person more reliable than other translators??
Now, I'm not a great believer in what shows up in Wikipedia, without further research for myself but here is what it says about his translations:
When Sitchin wrote his books, only specialists could read the Sumerian language, but now anyone can check his translations by utilizing the 2006 book Sumerian Lexicon.[7] Sitchin's translations of both individual words and of larger portions of ancient texts are generally found to be incorrect.[8][9]
Howdy Y'all,
Madsen, yes to all...
Shooter001, I have heard of Zacharia Stichin's work, that would be a good starting point...
Here's some more data to spin around in your head. Jesus, the man who was crucified nearly 2000 years ago, is still alive. Another Adept Ascended Master is St. Germain. He was supposedly born in 1509 and is still alive. He recently addressed the European Union about NESARA...
I'll dig up some information about all the topics that we have glanced off of today and post them soon. I need to dig through my archives to find a lot of this stuff. If it is not in electronic format, then I will try to find a link to the information, or at least a link to a book store where you can find the information.
Here is a link to "The Ultimate Frontier" at the Adelphi Organization...
http://www.adelphi.com/
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 04:26:48 PMAnother Adept Ascended Master is St. Germain.
AFAIK (as far as I know) he founded the Freemasons (which were later "taken over" by others such as the "Illuminati" and the teachings distorted).
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 04:26:48 PMHe was supposedly born in 1509 and is still alive.
For some value of
alive. ;) AFAIK (as far as I know) he left with his body but is still able to show up for shorter times. But is being impersonated by others, too.
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 04:26:48 PM
Here's some more data to spin around in your head. Jesus, the man who was crucified nearly 2000 years ago, is still alive. Another Adept Ascended Master is St. Germain. He was supposedly born in 1509 and is still alive. He recently addressed the European Union about NESARA...
Is there any hard evidence for these claims? Any which doesn't depend on listening to my spirit or developing clairvoyance? This St. Germain guy could show up on Larry King for example, and walk through a wall, as this website (http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_physical_appearance_of_saint_germain.htm) says he is wont to do.
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 03:38:03 PM
Y'all can also learn to read the Akashic Record which covers all events of all time and is stored on the Etheric Plane of Existence. You can read it, all you have to do is develop your Etheric Clairvoyance...
Blessed Be...
z.monkey, Can you read the Akashic Record?
Howdy Y'all,
Orbs, I knew St. Germain had a hand in Freemasonry, didn't know he founded them...
Madsen, Well, both those guys are pretty reclusive. I'll see if I can mentally summon them to my house and take a picture of them. Is that sufficient? Or do you want hair, blood, urine, and DNA samples as well? While I am at it why don't we just plan a barbeque as well, then you guys can come over and meet Jesus and St. Germain then we'll all be cool...
Blessed Be...
The bible, as well as all scriptures contains much wisdom...along with much deceit.
The phrase 'separate the wheat from the chaff' need only be applied to all to discern the truth.
I know nothing of who or what created humanity...only that it was done.
I do know for sure that nothing good grows out of secrecy.
Regards...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 05:28:55 PM
While I am at it why don't we just plan a barbeque as well, then you guys can come over and meet Jesus and St. Germain then we'll all be cool...
Blessed Be...
Sounds like fun! :) Do you have a pool? I want to see Jesus walk on water! Then we can go inside and watch the football game. ;)
Jason
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 05:28:55 PM
Madsen, Well, both those guys are pretty reclusive. I'll see if I can mentally summon them to my house and take a picture of them. Is that sufficient? Or do you want hair, blood, urine, and DNA samples as well? While I am at it why don't we just plan a barbeque as well, then you guys can come over and meet Jesus and St. Germain then we'll all be cool...
The barbeque idea would be cool ;) If St Germain can't make it, I guess I'd settle for Jesus. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.somethingawful.com%2Fforumsystem%2Femoticons%2Femot-devil.gif&hash=7a9da215a87d942e1e1465b2464cc20eb6df93cc)
However, supposedly they both show up at meetings at the White House, so they can't be too shy.
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 05:28:55 PMI knew St. Germain had a hand in Freemasonry, didn't know he founded them..
SG has apparently founded several secret societies. Also the Illuminati (which, again, were later taken over and the teachings perverted ? that's one of the problems with
secret, so now he does it more openly).
Quote from: Illuminated on September 03, 2008, 05:28:28 PM
z.monkey, Can you read the Akashic Record?
Howdy Illuminated,
I have limited psychic abilities, I do have access but it is not willful and voluntary, yet. But, I am getting better at it. This kind of ability takes a long time to develop. It scares my wife...
Madsen, so you have been looking at the NESARA documents, Jesus & St. Germain at the White House? I read that Jesus (Sananda really) called George Jr. and his Cabinet "a bunch of schoolyard bullies" in the Oval Office. Hehe, I bet that went well...
About the barbeque I would love to do that, don't have a pool, but I do have a hardwood smoker, and a big screen TV for the football. Supposedly after the First Contact event there will be lots of Aliens and Angels on the surface of the planet, so maybe if I can't get Jesus and St. Germain to come to the Barbeque I'm sure there will be lots of other interesting Aliens or Angels to invite.
Hey Cap, I was wondering when we would be seeing you here...
Orbs, so now St Germain only forms Clubs?
Blessed Be...
ALL religions have 2 things in common
1. Control of the masses. (via rules/commandments etc...)
2. An alternative to the thought that when you die it's all over.
every single one ...
There's no point in arguing unproveable information... it's out there now (the ship message), let's just wait and see on 10/14 and get back to the pursuit of O.U./F.E....
Z Monkey
I appreciatte your views and passion and love the fact you have found your own TRUTH, this is great, but in amongst a few of your posts, you are judging people and one of the basic things when it comes down to it, is that no one judges you when you return home after doing this incarnation, you judge yourself by reflecting back on your life and the situations that have came up and how you dealt with them.
You may call members of the Freemasons and the Illuminanti/Cabal or any other name that they go by as Evil, but really if you are truly spiritual then you should not judge, have an opinion by all means, but do not judge as you do not know what their life contract is.
For all we know they may have agreed before even incarnating that they were going to do the path they followed so others could experience off the back of it.
Also please consider that certain members of the so called Illuminati/Cabal etc etc do actually think they are doing good, because they have been conditioned since birth that they are more superior than the average Joe Bloggs in the world and also believe that by controlling people that they are actually doing them a favour by controlling them.
If the world was all full of good then there would be no point in coming here to experience the good and bad as it would be all good and a few valuable lessons would be missed.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to live in a perfect world and I think that time will come oneday, but for now it is as it is for a reason and yep agree things are changing hopefully for the better.
But at the end of the day being incarnated is a experience and a big Play which we all take too seriously. When you realise that then you actualy do find a bit of peace because the pressure is off and you can be what your instinct tells you to be and also find your true path in life.
Roll on the 14th October as would love it too come true and sending positive hope that it does.
Cheers
Sean.
Quotethe highest ranks of the Freemasons, Illuminati, and the Vatican are dominated by the Annunaki and Reptilian Aliens.
i agree with Z_monkey
6 months ago i did not believe in Reptilians at all
since then i have found many good youtube videos to support this theory
you can see the topic on that link
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4766.0;topicseen
here is a quote explaning it shortly (from a youtube)
QuoteThe Reptilians, with their Royalty the Draconans, who are malevolent beings that came from another universe, in fact they were dumped here, they claim this universe as theirs and they seek control and domination, they colonize and enslave many planets, are warriors and also genetic engineers, so they find life forms in planets and alter them to create races to serve them.
they dont want other races to evolve and raise to higher dimensions, so they control and manipulate so that they are regressive like them, they are concerned about earth becaused they know we are primitive hunters, warriors like them and see a threat in us using space travel to colonize other planets so they control us and are here for that purpose, they consider the earth as one of their planets, a number of them are underground and in high leadership positions(cloaked), and want us to kill each other in wars and create tensions and rivalries so that we are not united as a race and dont raise to the next dimension (4th and 5th)
also they eat us, from adults to litle children
these are the main regressive ETs
next video : the Human type ETs
if there is STILL anyone thinking: is this true? YES it is.
the future is never fixed, every things can change, if the Galactic Federation appears in october it will be wonderfull to see them changing our own future, the end of the time of the Nations !! like in the Bible
I hope that we do get some peaceful aliens coming to us. It would be fun to see all the greedy government members get sucked-up, by some giant vacuum cleaner pipe or something ;D.
Howdy CLaNZeR,
Yes, we all have our roles in this play of life. It was Nitinnun who reminded me that what the Galactic Federation calls the Earth Allies are former Illuminati who are working with the Galactic Federation to balance the situation in the world. So yes even they can see the light are agree to work with others for the benefit of all. Really, in the end, what we seek is balance, everyone on the same playing field. I don't think the Physical Plane will ever be perfect, but maybe better is a good goal. And yeah, I know I shouldn't judge, but sometimes I get on a tear and start ripping up the keyboard, sorry if I offended anyone. It would be interesting to experience the challenges of good vs. evil without the lethality that is prevalent on this planet. And, we have to get rid of the nukes, they are the main negative aspect of our solar system.
Drannom has found a lot of information about reptilians if anyone is interested. Keep in mind that Alien spirits can incarnate into Human bodies so what you see isn't necessarily what it is. You can tell by their personality. It would be nice to live as a world instead of a bunch of rival nations, maybe then we could get something done.
Also, Nitinnun has a lot of information about the Pleiadians.
Bulbz, Hahahahaaahahahaaaa....
There have been aliens around us always, some actually in their own alien physical bodies (the ones that look like us). Others come here in spirit form and incarnate as a human, although their spirit shines through the human shell. Some good some bad, but most in between. A lot of alien life comes here for some specific mission, but I think most come here to have a new experience, something different than the planet they were living on before. After all that is what life is about experience and diversity. Variety is the spice of life.
Blessed Be...
Quote from: Drannom on September 03, 2008, 06:59:50 PM
6 months ago i did not believe in Reptilians at all
since then i have found many good youtube videos to support this theory
You were convinced that Reptilians exist by
youtube videos?
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.somethingawful.com%2Fforumsystem%2Femoticons%2Femot-psyduck.gif&hash=8816a5c37578bcf37d675dd62b1ba97e468b677e)
Quote from: Bulbz on September 03, 2008, 07:09:53 PM
I hope that we do get some peaceful aliens coming to us. It would be fun to see all the greedy government members get sucked-up, by some giant vacuum cleaner pipe or something ;D.
LOL.. ;D ;D
Howdy Madsen,
You have to realize that any actual evidence of reptilians is aggressively suppressed by the military and government types. This should change soon. When the ship get here, and First Contact happens we should get full disclosure. Also, to help speed the process along you could go sign the Galactic Freedom Day petition...
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Galactic-Freedom-Day
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 08:37:52 PM
Howdy Madsen,
You have to realize that any actual evidence of reptilians is aggressively suppressed by the military and government types. This should change soon. When the ship get here, and First Contact happens we should get full disclosure. Also, to help speed the process along you could go sign the Galactic Freedom Day petition...
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Galactic-Freedom-Day
Blessed Be...
So, all those youtube videos -- that have so changed Drannon's mind about the existance of Reptilians -- showing Jenna Bush, Fox News people, little babies, etc., are not really Reptilians? Or is the military not able to suppress things from youtube?
Quote from: CLaNZeR on September 03, 2008, 06:46:39 PM
Z Monkey
I appreciatte your views and passion and love the fact you have found your own TRUTH, this is great, but in amongst a few of your posts, you are judging people and one of the basic things when it comes down to it, is that no one judges you when you return home after doing this incarnation, you judge yourself by reflecting back on your life and the situations that have came up and how you dealt with them.
You may call members of the Freemasons and the Illuminanti/Cabal or any other name that they go by as Evil, but really if you are truly spiritual then you should not judge, have an opinion by all means, but do not judge as you do not know what their life contract is.
For all we know they may have agreed before even incarnating that they were going to do the path they followed so others could experience off the back of it.
Also please consider that certain members of the so called Illuminati/Cabal etc etc do actually think they are doing good, because they have been conditioned since birth that they are more superior than the average Joe Bloggs in the world and also believe that by controlling people that they are actually doing them a favour by controlling them.
If the world was all full of good then there would be no point in coming here to experience the good and bad as it would be all good and a few valuable lessons would be missed.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to live in a perfect world and I think that time will come oneday, but for now it is as it is for a reason and yep agree things are changing hopefully for the better.
But at the end of the day being incarnated is a experience and a big Play which we all take too seriously. When you realise that then you actualy do find a bit of peace because the pressure is off and you can be what your instinct tells you to be and also find your true path in life.
Roll on the 14th October as would love it too come true and sending positive hope that it does.
Cheers
Sean.
Very well stated, also my beliefs.
Regards, Larry
Howdy Illuminated,
The videos show anomalous behavior indicative of Reptilian behavior. Some of the the Reptilians are Terran (from here) and benevolent, but they are terrified of humans because of our militaristic nature. They have the ability to use a suggestion to make us see them as human. Some of the Reptilians are militant, and malevolent, these are extraterrestrials from a star in the Orion constellation. The malevolent or regressive Reptilians have shape shifting technology which makes them seem as though they are some other being. Some of the videos show glitches in the video which make the Reptilian shape shifting technologies. This paper that I am attaching is from my personal collection. It has some information about the terrestrial, benevolent Reptilians. These are not the Reptilians that we have a problem with. For the most part they keep to themselves and do their best to stay out of our way. The other ones, the malevolent Reptilians, are here to dominate our world, and what is left of our original government has spent decades waging a secret war against them. At places like Area 51, Dulce, and Denver International airport there are deep caverns that are called DUMBs, Deep Underground Military Bases. These bases were built by the government for the Malevolent Reptilians when they were considered friends. We had signed a treaty with them. We were supposed to be Allies. They turned on us. And we have been trying to eradicate them ever since.
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 07:32:19 PM
Howdy CLaNZeR,
Yes, we all have our roles in this play of life. It was Nitinnun who reminded me that what the Galactic Federation calls the Earth Allies are former Illuminati who are working with the Galactic Federation to balance the situation in the world. So yes even they can see the light are agree to work with others for the benefit of all. Really, in the end, what we seek is balance, everyone on the same playing field. I don't think the Physical Plane will ever be perfect, but maybe better is a good goal. And yeah, I know I shouldn't judge, but sometimes I get on a tear and start ripping up the keyboard, sorry if I offended anyone. It would be interesting to experience the challenges of good vs. evil without the lethality that is prevalent on this planet. And, we have to get rid of the nukes, they are the main negative aspect of our solar system.
Drannom has found a lot of information about reptilians if anyone is interested. Keep in mind that Alien spirits can incarnate into Human bodies so what you see isn't necessarily what it is. You can tell by their personality. It would be nice to live as a world instead of a bunch of rival nations, maybe then we could get something done.
Also, Nitinnun has a lot of information about the Pleiadians.
Bulbz, Hahahahaaahahahaaaa....
There have been aliens around us always, some actually in their own alien physical bodies (the ones that look like us). Others come here in spirit form and incarnate as a human, although their spirit shines through the human shell. Some good some bad, but most in between. A lot of alien life comes here for some specific mission, but I think most come here to have a new experience, something different than the planet they were living on before. After all that is what life is about experience and diversity. Variety is the spice of life.
Blessed Be...
Logic tells me in my head that this statment is contradicting...
There are aliens around us always around us not too likely.
This civilization would have to be far advanced for one...
Being as advanced as they are and as alike as us they would have expierenced social differnce and know all about it.
No being could accomplish across the universe flight without having a society I dont care if there cave man discovered the computer with a thousand core processor...
Being through all this and being advanced as they are they would have long ago made themselves known long before a lot of this has gotten out of hand.
Mission would've been accomplished some time ago and these reptiles that everyone claims would have been exposed as well.
Someone with brains like that would know how to own mass media outlets and let things out solid concrete indisputeable evidence ...
Talk about a revolution I would like to see this 2000 mile UFO or whatever it is and I will not lie I have seen unidentified objects flying in the sky and not alone as well on one of the occasions...
But I dont think it was concrete enough to say that it wasnt some kind of anomly or military exercise or expirement.
Show me the ship!!!
And I do not believe I am alone in this thinking I believe there is life out there but this reminds me much of a scifi novel or something like independance day...
Anyhow no offense I believe there is life out there and it is possible that life does visit us but the rest of the stuff just sounds a bit far fetched.
I dont believe 100% in any religion either I look for proof call me the devil call me what you wish a reptile but heh I seek answers I do not set my mind on one thing to set your mind on one specific belief leaves you and the end of the quest of knowladge I am open to even this as a possibility as you say it but I must simply look at the simplest thing first which is the context given.
Without all the extra added illuminati freemason and reptile stuff this is more believeable.
A picture is worth a thousand words.
But a world witnessed momentary lapse of reason is priceless
Show me the ship!!!
-infringer-
Howdy Y'all,
Here is another account from my personal collection. This one titled "Battles Beneath the Earth", self splanitory. This is an account of what happened after the "treaty" was signed by Eisenhower. The malevolent Reptilians decided not to honor the treaty and went about doing as they pleased. This caused a lot of problems with trying to contain the aliens, trying to contain the secret, and trying to keep the American public safe. This is the largest war that has ever been fought. It is also the most expensive war that that have ever been fought. All of it is secret. This is why we NEED the help of the Galactic Federation. This is why we NEED an alien intervention. This is why you NEED to pray for help.
Well, I tried to attach this file, but it was too big. So I saved it in the download section...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item111
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all,
Here is a more detailed account of what happened in Dulce, New Mexico...
Dulce Book Chapters 1 through 20
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item112
Dulce Book chapters 21 through 34
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item113
OK, I did not write this, it is not from me. Many brave men and women died to bring you this account. This nations finest, the best of the best, special forces, fought this battle to free us from this intractable enemy. Honor them by reading this information, and then pass it on. God bless our armed forces, for they have done all of this to keep you safe...
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all,
I'm on a roll here. for any of you who doubt how evil the Illuminati are, check this out...
Pindar - Earth's Illuminati...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item114
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all
You knew this was coming, NASA is a farce. We have been in space since the 50's, secretly...
Blessed Be...
@z.monkey - thanks for the info. I like to convert stuff like this to audio files, so it should make interesting listening. Question, haven't you already said that you believe that the Galactic Federation already had played a pivotal role in removing the last of the really bad reptiles by 2001 - so why do we need them now?
Howdy Sprocket,
Well their involvement in militaristic way is only the eradication of the malevolent species. They have many benevolent things to teach us. Earth is going to be a part of the Galactic Federation, so we need to convert our society to be compatible with the Galactic Federation. This includes being more sympathetic to people that have needs, reforming our banking and business structures, converting our energy infrastructure from oil to radiant energy, and reforming the governments to be supportive instead of suppressive. There is a major amount of work to do. It is literally going to require everyone one the planet to change from our antiquated, feudalistic systems to enlightened systems that are compatible with the Galactic Federation. We have to clean up all the messes we have made, such as the dioxin and mercury situation in the oceans. We have to clean up the nuclear messes we have made. We have to revolutionize our food production techniques. Then there is the situation with the antiquated housing, we will have to build safe structures that are compatible with our environment. There is so much work to be done. We are going to rebuild the entire planet with an enlightened preface. This requires that every is in agreement and working for the same team. There will be a universal language, a universal monetary system, and a universal spiritual philosophy. After we experience what the Galactic Federation is like we will wonder how we were able to survive before...
Lots and lots of work, but promising rewards also...
Blessed Be...
z.monkey, you sure do paint an idyllic picture of how most people would like the world to be! Unfortunately, there is convincing evidence that we co-habit a world that regularily 'purges' its inhabitants - so the "most people" I allude to could be a much smaller bunch in just a few years time! Have you any info on what the Galactic Federation were doing the last time this happened? If we are condemned to suffer a similar fate this time around, it sucks just knowning that the Illuminati will in all likelyhood be safe underground, and ready to take over once the carnage has passed! Whoever said "The Meek Shall Inherit The Earth" was having a laugh... :(
Howdy Sprocket,
The Galactic Federation are NOT conquerors. Their mission is mandated by Heaven. They are Christed Beings. GOD coined the expression "The meek shall inherit the Earth". He is who is in control...
Maybe this will help explain...
Ancient Arrow interviews with Doctor Jameson Neruda.
Part 1
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item115
Part 2
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item116
Part 3
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item117
Part 4
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item118
These interviews explain who the Founders are.
Blessed Be...
This document suggests that things are not that black and white. Can't asses the reliability of the content though.
http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/allies-of-humanity-book1.pdf
Interesting reading, anyway. A bit spookey :o
Guys.. it is good to keep an open mind, but don't believe everything you read. ;)
Jason
Quote from: z.monkey on September 03, 2008, 06:25:33 PMOrbs, so now St Germain only forms Clubs?
Well, the last one I know of he called a
Circle. BTW (by the way), while he called himself
Count (of) Saint-Germain, he is not (officially) a saint of any church.
Howdy Y'all,
This book is "The Thiaooouba Prophesy" a Frenchman is abducted by hermaphroditic aliens and given a crash course in cosmic physics. One of the best books ever concerning alien technology. This book was called "Abduction to the Ninth Planet" and has been suppressed for a long time...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item119
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all,
This book is less about aliens and more about spiritual maters. The main character dies in the beginning of the story, travels the spirit lands, and then channels his experiences through a spirit medium to produce this book. Originally printed in 1896, this one is possibly the best book I have ever read concerning the astral plane...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item120
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all,
Zeta Reticulans are the ubiquitous Grays that everyone is familiar with. They are in all the science fiction moves and television shows. There are many different varieties. They are manufactured creatures and can have a consciousness (soul) placed into them. They are used by other species for hazardous work and space travel. When a discarnate spirit needs to work on the Physical Plane they can use a Zeta body and then relinquish it when they are done. Here is some information about the Zeta Reticulans...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item121
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all,
I want to introduce you to Sal Rachele. I found his website earlier this year when I was searching for information on Maldek. I feel that he is a kindred spirit and also feel that I have a deep spiritual connection to him. He is VERY knowledgeable on the Galactic Federation and all kinds of alien life in general. Take a look at his new book "Earth Changes and 2012" Here is a link to his site.
http://www.salrachele.com/
He channels information from the founders. This next set of links is the Founders on Earth History;
Part 1
http://www.salrachele.com/webchannelings/foundersonearthhistorypart1.htm
Part 2
http://www.salrachele.com/webchannelings/foundersonearthhistorypart2.htm
Part 3
http://www.salrachele.com/webchannelings/foundersonearthhistorypart3.htm
Part 4
http://www.salrachele.com/webchannelings/foundersonearthhistorypart4.htm
Part 5
http://www.salrachele.com/webchannelings/foundersonearthhistorypart5.htm
Part 6
http://www.salrachele.com/webchannelings/foundersonearthhistorypart6.htm
Part 7
http://www.salrachele.com/webchannelings/foundersonearthhistorypart7.htm
Part 8
http://www.salrachele.com/webchannelings/foundersonearthhistorypart8.htm
Part 9
http://www.salrachele.com/webchannelings/foundersonearthhistorypart9.htm
and Part 10
http://www.salrachele.com/webchannelings/foundersonearthhistorypart10.htm
when you are done reading this information you will understand that there are not Earthlings and Aliens, we are them, they are us. We are all just one big galactic family whose DNA has been intermingled over the previous millions of years. We are all siblings and we should treat each other as family. There is no need for bickering, and fighting, and nuclear war. We should love each other as the one big galactic family that we are...
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all,
Here is another great book, "The Day After Roswell" by Lieutenant Colonel Phillip J. Corso, deceased. This book covers the industrial boom that occurred after alien technology from the Roswell was reverse engineered by comanies like Bell Labs, IBM, Texas Instruments, Fairchild Semiconductor, and many, many others. This device that you are reading this message on was indirectly reversed engineering from alien technologies. Now I am not saying that the Air Force pulled Pentium chips out of the Roswell craft, but the pieces of technology that were pulled out of that craft were studied extensively. They were sent to major technology companies where the technologies were copied and put into production. The primitive devices that these companies came up with were the transistor and the integrated circuit among others. These primitive devices were developed over several decades to become microprocessors and other highly sophisticated technologies. High speed computers, super fast processors and the internet are all direct result of alien intervention in our society. Here is a link to the book, "The Day After Roswell"
http://www.amazon.com/Day-After-Roswell-Philip-Corso/dp/067101756X
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 04, 2008, 10:06:01 AMTake a look at his new book "Earth Changes and 2012" Here is a link to his site.
http://www.salrachele.com
I can recommend it too. While it is in part similar in content as
The Keys of Enoch his language is much more accessible in my opinion.
Quote from: z.monkey on September 04, 2008, 10:46:51 AM"The Day After Roswell" by Lieutenant Colonel Phillip J. Corso
You might also find the
2006 talk (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2282562794601770018) of his son Phil Corso Jr. interesting.
z.monkey - I have just read the document you posted regarding the female reptilian interview in Sweden - fascinating! Just wondering if you believe this account of earth history and if so, how do you reconcile this with the almost universal view (among humans) that we are its rightful 'owners' - when we ellegedly are nothing more than 'squatters' here and it is the 'native' reptilians who are earths only true indigenous specy?
Howdy Y'all,
So, what about rule of law in the Galactic Federation? Like all civilized societies the Galactic Federation does have laws and courts. Of course you realize this means Galactic Lawyers, ahhhhh.... No, its not that bad. Their laws are based on GODs laws and a very fair. Here is the Galactic Codex, which is the basis for all subsequent laws, sort of like the Constitution of the Galaxy.
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all,
Channeled information is held under scrutiny by most people. When you are dealing with information that is tens of thousands of years old, or more the only way to get access to it is channeling. There are many ways to access this information. A medium can interface with a spirit who reads the Akashic Record and relates it to the medium. The medium may read the Akashic Record directly. The information can be transmitted as a mental signal from a spirit to an physical being. However in all cases the information is subjective. It can be biased by spirit or medium alike. Whenever you are studying channeled information it is important to listen to your heart and not your brain. The brain is analytical while the heart is emotional. The heart can tell whether information is true or false while the brain only assimilates information. I have read much channeled material and I have come across material that my heart rejects. I did not post any of that information here. The only channeled material that I will pass along is information that my heart accepts as valid. When we are dealing with information that is thousands of years old, information from other planets, or other galaxies, or other universes we can only look into our minds to find the answers. There is no physical evidence here. There are no books about it. There is no way of physically verifying that it is true. This is something that science just cannot accept, therefore the powers of the mind are officially thrown into purgatory. Well, this is unacceptable, we need that information to advance. Therefore we need a way of filtering the information into good and bad buckets so that we can use the good information and reject the bad information. This filter is your heart. Be open to all information, but be ready to reject that which your heart will not accept. Hopefully this will help some of you to be more open to the powers of the mind. After all GOD gave you a mind for a purpose, you should use it...
Blessed Be...
Howdy Sprocket,
Well, the Saurians (Reptilians) were here a LONG time before the Simians (Monkeys, er, uh, Humans). Yeah, I think they can hold claim to the planet. The reason that we claim the planet is we are ignorant of the Saurians. They hide from use because of our militaristic nature, which is caused by the socioeconomic/political situation engendered by the Illuminati. At this time, information on our world is tightly controlled by the "powers that be" so that we don't know our true nature and rise up against them. Had nature taken a different course we might be living side by side, Saurian and Simian as neighbors in the suburbs. Their technology is far more advanced than ours, but again they are afraid of us and what we would do with their technology. Earth is home to many indigenous species, why should the Monkeys, er, uh, Humans claim the crown, other than we would destroy any one else who does. There is room for all of us on the Earth, we could try to live amicably with these other species. I, personally, think that it would be cool to have Saurian friends.
Blessed Be Brother...
The problem with man is his witness of material death and his misconception that with the death of the machine comes as a consequence, death of the being. Once you reach a state of awareness that you are a part of a greater being who lives through you then you become blessed with contentment. God is quite content being god. It is those who seperate their lives from his that produce evil chaos and insane acts against creation. God has shared his ability to create with our beings. Please create what you wish to reap for it is the way. Respect the creations of others for they are a mirror of your being. Love like there is no tomorrow because there is just the now no beginning no end, no you no me just we.
Howdy Y'all,
Sparks, yes we are extensions of the same One. Goodwill to All, for All is One.
Everyone, I just got this. Not alien but ancient. The Vimanika Shastra, an account of Vimanika (Flying Ship) from ancient India, during the Raman Empire. This is something long sought, and very hard to find. Oh man, I can't wait to read this. This is the information that the Vril and Thule Societies of Germany used to make antigravity ships before WWII.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item122
Blessed Be...
I think I'll just hold out and wait for the aliens to show their ship on 14 Oct. When/if that happens I may have to rethink what I believe. Until then I will let you do all the channeling, etc. I do wish you, or someone, would look into those records and give us the plans for all the FE machines that have been created throughout history and were subsequently hidden by the bad guys.
z.monkey - thanks, great answer to my question. I actually classed myself as pretty well informed regarding this stuff, but must admit that most of what I have read so far from the stuff you upped is new to me - so your material is much appreciated! :D
Howdy Y'all,
Sprocket, your welcome, I have been chasing this for a couple of decades, there is more...
Illuminated, not all of this is channeled.
These are not channeled;
Lacerta Files on Reptilians,
Battles Beneath the Earth,
Dulce Book,
Pindar - Earths Illuminati,
The Neruda Interviews,
The Thiaooouba Prophesy,
Zeta Reticulans.
Channeling is for information that you can't get here and now. If the information exists on the physical plane in this period of space time, well, uh, you only need to get it, you don't have to channel it. Dig deep enough and you will be amazed at what you can find laying around a used book store. I have books which I would love to post here as a *.pdf file. But I would have to transcribe them, or scan every page in, man that would be a real pain.
So, really, I have posted very little information that is channeled here. The Founders information has to be channeled because they are our GODs. Physical information about them just doesn't exist on the 3rd Density. They reside on the 12th Density, and don't come down from there. They send their creations to experience our little paradise for them...
Blessed Be...
LOL
As more information comes from channelers, I am becoming more convinced that any "alien" encounter humans experience in the short term, is going to be human created, using technology developed over "the last 50 years" by "our brothers and sisters". Hmmph and bah humbug, to people pretending to be good people when their intentions are malicious.
Why have all the representatives from this supposedly beneficial group, represented nazi ideals for civilization? lol
ok, maybe too far.
Wheres the black people from the galactic federation of light? Was that pc enough? Will this group declare the "black" genetics on earth as inferior to white genetics? Why is darkness being represented as evil instead of the unknown? Where is the mention of perspective when concerning light and dark? How can a backasswards species like humanity come to these insights, and not a technologically superior, more experienced species?
Light = what is known
Dark = what is not known
True or false?
To put it another way (as was argued to me), darkness has never hurt anybody. You cannot focus a beam of darkness strong enough that it kills someone (actually I have never tried, but I will assume). Your eyes do not flash with pain when the lights are shut off and you are left in darkness. Examples like these can be found with a little effort.
In my opinion, darkness lies by omission or flux (it answers truthfully, then changes, or refuses to answer at all), the light lies blatantly, and tries to claim it as the truth.
I am more afraid of anyone claiming only the positive traits of light than anything or any one the darkness has brought me.
Sincerely,
A concerned citizen of earth
Howdy SeantheLight,
Lightness and Darkness are the extremes, most of us live in the gray area (get it? gray, he he)in between. There are people from all races and species in the Galactic Federation. All beings which have a Mental Body are equal. We all reside, in part, on the Mental Plane of Existence. So in this context there is no reason for a Human to act superior to a Saurian, or a Arcturian, or even a Draconian. We are on the same level of development and should be able to peacefully coexist. This goes for races also. There is no reason for white man to feel superior to black man, or yellow man, red man, or woman, we all exist on the same level of development and should be able to peacefully coexist.
Your supposition that light is knowledge and dark is ignorance is one interpretation of those symbols. They don't have to be interpreted as good and evil. They could mean wholesome and unsavory, or Brahma and Shiva, or Ying and Yang. But in this context they could better be described as freedom and submission. It is literary symbolism so as to convey the concept in as few words as possible.
I know this whole topic has undertones of the Nazi's Aryan race, and for me to make references to the Vril and the Thule antigravity devices amplifies that effect. When the Nazi's fled to Newswabenland after the war they began to live around the people from Aldebaran. The decades went by. The Germans learned the cosmic philosophy of the Aldebarans. The Nazi ideals fell away and they adopted the surperior attitudes of the Aldebarans. They realized that genetic purity is irrelevant and that all beings that have achieved a Mental state of existence are equal. What brought this change in attitude is the Aldebarans brought people of all races and species with them to Earth. The Germans were shocked when a space faring race had all types of people with them and they were not all Nordic aliens (not Aryan). So they had to deal with it. They learned from the Aldebarans racial and species tolerance. Their descendants in Newswabenland now hold an open minded attitude toward beings who have achieved Mental existence. The Nazi ideals have fallen away completely.
I have stated before that the Galactic Federation is not here to conquer us. They are not here to rule us. They are not going to force anything on us. They are simply here to guide, offer suggestions, to let us know we have options.
I take comfort in the fact that most everyone lives in the gray (he he) area between light and dark...
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all,
This document parallels the Galactic Freedom Day initiative to release all the classified files on Aliens and UFOs. "The Disclosure Project" compiles a large cross section of documented Alien incursions and UFO actions and presents them to Congress. As far as I know Congress is still silent on the issues, pity that the highest offices of the land are willfully ignorant on something that is so blatantly obvious. Why would they act that way? Do they have your best interest in mind? Who is taping their mouths shut? The arrival of the Galactic Federation ship is going to exasperbate the necessity for them to act. The people want to know. It is time to release the files...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item123
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all,
"UFO Contact from Planet Koldas" is an account of visitors from the planet Koldas. These "aliens" look exactly like us, they talk like us, they walk like us, and you wouldn't know them from us if you passed them walking down the street. This is an excellent example of how life out there is just like it is here. They are us, we are them. We are all just one big galactic family...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item124
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all,
This is an account of a Colombian man who received telepathic instructions to meet an alien ship. On board he found a variety of alien species who work together on an advanced technology ship. The more of these stories that you read you begin to think that alien interaction with Earth is commonplace, and not extraordinary...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item125
Blessed Be...
Howdy SwinG,
I appreciate you contribution to this thread. Any new information is appreciated. The more information that we can disseminate the wider this movement can spread. I have been reading the "Allies of Humanity" and it seems to be congruent with the Galactic Federation material. There are many beings who watch over us. Some only observe, others will help in a limited way. It is important for us to acknowledge them all. Thanks again...
Blessed Be...
Howdy Infringer,
Somehow I missed your comments. Uh, well, we live in a very convoluted world, and all things are tied together somehow. I know that I have related some seemingly independent things, but I find the most odd connections in my research. Alien life has been here for half a million years. They seeded life on this planet. Aliens are nothing to the Earth. They are just new to us because our society is ignorant, and the ignorance is enforced by the "powers that be". One has to work really hard to break out of the mold of society, open ones mind, and learn of our true heritage. Then, when you start learning these things you have a mind bending learning curve to deal with. It is definitely not an easy path. But, once you crack open that book, you will find that you cannot put it down, and the rewards are definitely worth the effort...
I checked out your website, pretty cool. I noticed that you have Buddy Jesus on the front page, AWESOME!!!
Bring the ship!
Blessed Be Brother...
Howdy SwinG,
As I get further into the "Allies of Humanity" book, the clearer the message becomes that this is a stern warning to humanity. There are many alien species in our galactic community which are not so much militaristic, but more like "snake in the grass" business people. I know that type well from my experiences here in Terran business communities. Again thanks for the information, I think that this is good example of information that humanity needs before we start interacting with aliens on any level...
Blessed Be...
Howdy SwinG,
As I get further into the "Allies of Humanity" book, the clearer the message becomes that this is a stern warning to humanity. There are many alien species in our galactic community which are not so much militaristic, but more like "snake in the grass" business people. I know that type well from my experiences here in Terran business communities. Again thanks for the information, I think that this is good example of information that humanity needs before we start interacting with aliens on any level...
Blessed Be...
Below are the follow on channellings after 8th August after putting out the ebook 'snap shot' as requested by The Federation Of Light. I shall be updating them as the weeks go on.
This first one doesn't appear very positive I must admit. Yet ... if I am going to be in my TRUTH and nothing else, this is how I was feeling this day.
(The Federation in bold print ... my words in plain print .)
1. Hiya ? I have to say, I don?t know how much of a receptive mood I am in right now. My heart is exploding with anxiety regarding this whole event. I have been asked to speak for an hour on radio. What would you have me say? Of course I will be asked ?Is this really going to happen?? As indeed many have written to me asking. Again? YOU TELL ME!! People are asking me what excuse I will use and I say, it will be up to you to make the excuses. I am just the vessel. Some ?bright spark? suggested I record my excuse on CD and charge $25 for it. Good thinking Batman!
Guys, guys, guys, I seem to have my heart in my throat these days! I KNOW I am not mad. I KNOW I am not seeking attention (as many out there have suggested.) ? God ? I shy away from that, this is why this whole thing is so scary ? I KNOW I did what I had to do ? (as Frankie once sang!) and I guess I should just keep TRUSTING until that very important date and then ALL questions regarding whether or not this is for real will be answered. Please forgive my doubting ? I reckon if you were me, down here on this earth plane, an unknown, you would be feeling the same. Wouldn't?t it have worked better if you had asked Oprah or Wayne Dwyer or someone of standing to tell the world of this? That?s what I don?t get ? why me??
May we speak?
Sorry ? go ahead.
We are aware that at this moment you have tears in your eyes and you are afraid.
How?s Edwina doing with that?? (see snap shot channellings)
We are not used to pain of the heart. The colour pink is fading.
And so is my courage!!
What would you have us say dearest one? We can only send you pulses of strength. Yet, on another level of yourself you knew of all of this. Of the ?courage? it would take to embark upon such a journey. You must understand that you were one of many many who volunteered and were considered for the post. Do you not see how delicate this matter is?
YEP!!!!
Do you think that with such a matter we would have pulled you name out of a hat? There are reasons beyond your comprehension at this time that ?
Sorry chaps ? Can?t do it today. It?s just all a bit too much. If you could just ? appear to me with a sticker on your head saying Oct 14th and a tick ? then perhaps I may feel stronger to carry on. The thing is ? I KNOW that when we work that you are for real. I know ME, and I couldn?t possibly write in the intelligent fashion that you do. So ? Why am I doubting that you are going to show?
Because you are allowing the fear in your human form to override the Truth that lies within the very depth of your soul. Ask yourself this Blossom? Would you lie to yourself? You cannot lie to another in anyway shape or form, so why would you think that you would treat the beauty of your soul in such a way?
I don?t know. I don?t know!! I?m just so blown away at the enormity of the task you have asked me to do ? and did!! In all my life I never had an inkling of this, and it?s taken me completely by surprise. It all happened so quickly. I WILL work through this chaps and come out the other side. What choice do I have? God ... If I?m your spokesperson, I, of all people have to TRUST you are going to do as you said you will. I really apologize for my attitude of ?nontrust? today. Is that nontrust in you or me I wonder?
Neither ? You are in your human form. You are behaving as any human in their RIGHT MIND would do. Any human in their RIGHT MIND who has humility and the desire to bring only TRUTH is a human that we are very proud to associate with.
OK ? that did it for me. Burst in to tears! Gotta go ? got a world to convince!! Swords of Light to the skies. What ho? And all that.
2. Next day ... feeling better! Much is happening on the planet in readiness for your arrival. I hope you?re sprucing up the outside of that ship; you?ve got to look your best you know! Many other channels it seems, have confirmed you?re coming on that date. Excitement is mounting down here ? how?s plans going up there?
All is in order dear Lady. Although we are slightly concerned that many of your race are still unaware of this happening and we are worried of the shock to their systems and the damage that may cause to them. We wish to bring no harm to anyone. Sadly it will be of those who are harmed ? damaging themselves ? through lack of understanding and from the refusal to wake up when we have been sending messages to your planet for so long now. In accordance with Divine Law we have set the date of our arrival and in TRUST you have emitted that date out to your world. It is now for the individual to decide in their soul what to make of this news. For indeed it shall be news. There will be NO DOUBTING of that. It is necessary for us and you to bring in the LOVE and calm that will be required. For as we have stated there shall be much panic from those who did not want to know of us.
We come to change the ways of your world and by our very presentation we shall be setting those wheels in motion. Not only will we be bringing in the Higher vibration of LOVE to your planet, which will have a great affect on all things, but it shall have a greater effect on your thoughts. One?s soul will reconsider past doctrines. One?s soul will be uplifted for it will begin to listen more intently to what its inner most Truth is telling it. What will it be like for those of you who already are convinced of our coming? What will it be like for those who hope we are coming? What will it be like for those who think that what we have posted out via you Blossom, our vessel, is merely speculation and of no Truth at all?? How we desire for those souls of the latter sentence to search within. Just for a short moment and just consider the possibility of this taking place. Even that will assist them in some way.
We ask that in preparation for this, that those who are in Knowledge of the Truth send out Rays of Light to those in general who find us to be of a minds fantasy. Do not underestimate the power of those Rays when they come from the Truth of your heart. Add fervor to this quest. We ask you to remember of the Light that is in your heart. We ask you to recall LIGHT HEARTEDNESS. Be of bright and cheery dispositions dear ones. This is not a terrible thing that is to take place. It is of the opposite. It is of the utmost importance to your species as a whole. For the betterment of it. Surely that is something to celebrate. Surely one would feel the joy that such an event shall bring. Joy, because the TRUTH shall be apparent at last. There can be no more stalling. No more hiding of this great Truth. We The Federation have chosen to uncover our selves in our Truth for it is indeed time to reveal the mockery that has been presented to you as a Truth for so long. How those who have made others suffer, shall suffer. Forgive them. Assist their souls to rise. For in the Truth of yourselves there is no malice, no venom projected to another. Only Love dear friends. Only Love.
YOU ARE OF THIS. That is why when we bring in this higher frequency , it shall resonate deeply within the core of your being. For it is a message from home. A postcard from your loved ones letting you know all is well back in the wisdom of your origin.
WE SAY AGAIN TO YOU ? BE UPLIFTED.
THAT IS THE POINT OF OUR VISIT ? TO UPLIFT YOU AND EVERYTHING ELSE FROM THE VIBRATION THAT HAS SWAMPED YOU, INTO THE VIBRATION THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BREATH IN AN ENERGY THAT RAISES YOU INTO THE GLORY OF THE TRUTH ?
THE TRUE TRUTH!!
We shall of course be in discourse with you as the days draw ever closer to our arrival. Hold on to your hats.
That should have been the name of this book!! For I am always hearing it from you. Perhaps you could write a signature tune. I laughingly see an impression of your ship coming in and everyone holding onto their hats due to the enormous wind incurred by you doing so!!
Just as an off side ? Everyone wants to be at the event. I guess I just accept that I probably won?t be, even though I don?t know where it is you are going to show. And that I will just be so relieved to see it on TV , knowing that ?we did it?. Yet, if I think a little deeper, what a spectacle it shall be, to see in person. On the other hand, as I say, I accept, and ?what will be will be?. I know White Clouds Truth and that certainly is a teaching that assists me greatly to adhere by. Anything else?
That is all for today, accept we say to you they word ?snow cone?.
Snow cone??? What on earth does that mean? Never even heard of it. It makes me think of a mountain. The plot thickens. Many thanks. Trusting you will be close by to guide me through my Radio interview tomorrow. I am trying the best I can to let go of fear.
We TRUST in you.
Good ? I will try to TRUST in me too!!
3.Sorry ? a little late for work today!! Was busy being your P.A.!!! Radio got cancelled. That?s fine. ?All is as? etc. I have a feeling it will be more appropriate when it is rebooked. I have to say I breathed a sigh of relief when I heard! I was going to say ?I know? coward?? but all things considered I don?t think I am!! Anyone about?
Challenges are ahead.
No offence? but do I really want to hear this ?
Have you not faced challenges before Blossom? And may we say with glee, you intervened before allowing us to finish our sentence ?
Oops sorry!
We in fact were not speaking directly to you. We speak to those who are of courage and read these words knowing in their heart of the ordeals that may be presented to your race as the coming of our ship into your skies draws near. Yet we ask you ? NOT TO BE AFRAID. You have enough fear upon your planet do you not? Our aim is to decrease it not to enhance it. That is why we need you to search your souls for your TRUTH. For indeed when you find it you will know that FEAR is unnecessary. You yourself Blossom have experienced great fear within your being from the effect that our message has brought to the sudden change of your everyday living. You yourself have had to find a way to move through it and come out smiling. And as you continue you are finding a strength and indeed a joy that is surprising you are you not?
Now and then! Depends on where I allow myself to go with it all really. It certainly is teaching me to live in the now for no-one can foresee what your appearance shall do to those in our world and how things will change. You have to admit, it?s a bit bigger than the Queen popping over for a visit (with all respect Your Majesty!) And of course we are all wondering if our daily lives will cease to be and a thousand other questions that your quest conjures up.
We fully accept your thoughts. We understand of the trepidation and yet, if you follow our words as a TRUE SOURCE, then we have repeatedly expressed to you that all shall be well. YES. There shall be initial upheaval on a large scale, but to counteract that experience there shall be a PEACE entering your planet that has not yet been able to be induced. If you allow yourself to breathe in that PEACE you shall feel an understanding in your soul and you shall simply KNOW that IT HAS BEGUN. Your fear will instantly subside, for there shall be NO DENYING OF THIS TRUTH that we have come to guide you on the pathway home. How your hearts will sing my warriors. How you shall shine in the Light of your hearts contentment. For so long have you as a race been awaiting your calling. For so long have you listened out into the silence and yet still you new that we would not desert you and that these days were never far away. For you could feel it in your being. As many of you feel it now. You can actually ?feel? us tapping into your energy. To prepare you. To just say ?hello?. As we prepare you, so you must prepare your selves. Diligently. Take/find the time in these future days to sink into the comfort of the soul?s remembrance. You are, at these times of meditation being ?fed? the nutrients your soul requires for these times. You have long awaited these times that are coming. It is with enormous validity (?) that what we shall present to you shall be of absolute conviction to the answers that each one of you are asking.
Thanks for that. Got to be honest. That last bit was a little difficult to get through and I always feel it best to stop when it feels that way, so as not to have to TRY ? if you know what I mean. So thank you for this information. We got the e-book out today. So when you said way back that it would be in print before the year was out and I doubted that ? I shouldn?t have. I know it?s not in book form yet, but it doesn?t have a cover! And ? you wanted it to be called ?snapshot?? naturally it had s crossed my mind that the cover might be a picture of ?THE VISIT?!
4.Whoa! What a ride this last month has been. And I have a feeling this is just the beginning! My mind is filled with a thousand things that I never knew of before I sent out your message. Many channellers world wide are confirming your announcement. Many have asked me to ask you questions. I feel more at home sticking to the way we have always worked and just TRUSTING in the fact that what you need to be known you shall make me aware of. I can feel your eagerness to begin ? so lets!
Indeed there is excitement commencing in your world and MANY others. Blossom, we commend you for your bravery. Look how by being of this, we have been able to do our side in making sure that we are heard. And as you say ? this is just the beginning. As days draw closer to our arrival, let it be known that there will be a tremor ? a rumbling would be more apt. This is to be of no fear, but it is unavoidable.
Dear ones, who read these words. Understand this. From our hearts we wish that you be of PEACE on our arrival. This is essential. Do not succumb to the scare mongers of your world. We ask that you pay heed to the feeling within yourselves and KNOW that we are of THE LIGHT. For you shall be told otherwise. This is to deter.
We say CONGRATULATIONS to you souls of earth. For without your expectancy this ?showing? would not be possible. There is little time left now. We shall be there ? as you say in your world ? with bells on!
There are questions in my mind, such as the whereabouts etc, yet I know you have your reasons and therefore I shall abide by your knowledge in what is best for us as a race.
You are surprised as we are not flowing forth as you thought we may. Is this so?
Indeed ? funnily enough though ? I understand. I am keen to put up more postings as I am aware many wish for the next installment ? And yet ? I can feel that you intend to leave it as it is for now. I shall respect that. Although a tad frustrating. On the other hand, your silence is sending me a calmness of KNOWING and I don?t know what it is I am KNOWING, but I KNOW I KNOW! I shall try again when I feel it appropriate. Thank you my friends, for TRUSTING in ME. I feel all the support I have been shown has been encouraged by you ? and it was much needed. I feel stronger about all this daily. When you?re ready then. In Love.
5.Well, your announcement continues to rock the world it seems!! I have been asked to ask you so many questions, which you are probably aware of. I put my TRUST in you (CLEARLY!) and know that you will say what needs to be said. However ? if I may be so bold ? other channells that have confirmed this date have said that it could be changed at the last minute for our safety. Someone who I have come to highly respect has suggested to me this would be because ? and I quote ?
?The Galactic Federation do not want a confrontation where they are forced to defend themselves, not that they couldn't as they clearly can deal with whatever is thrown at them. It would give the impression that some kind of Space War was starting, and that is the last thing they want. That may also put some of our people at risk, so they would not take chances where our safety was concerned.?
As much as I understand that ?and if this is so ? wouldn?t that be the case what ever date you showed up? I feel this is also a reason why you are being so discrete about where that ?showing up? is going to be. However ? if I may be so bold? IF you don?t show up on the 14th, you are not only going to make me lose MY street cred but YOURS as well!! I KNOW you KNOW all this (here we go again) but are you able to enlighten me on this matter? I FEEL it is imperative you show on that day or people will just put it down to another crackpot under a ridiculous illusion. (Especially my mum, love her as I do!)
Welcome to you first and foremost. We see how we have turned your everyday living into something very different from what it was and we send you energy as you have asked.
Regarding the subject matter of which you have just mentioned ? ALL PLANS are underway for this date. We, as mentioned before, have subsidiary notions should they be necessary, but at this point in YOUR time we see no reason that threatens us to a point that we should have to deter. We are exceedingly happy about this forthcoming event. We continue to prepare, even though we have been doing this for as long as we can remember, it seems. There is still work to do at your end and this shall be disclosed when we feel it necessary to be revealed to your nation as a whole. Excitement is building which is making our tasks easier to perform. Yet there are still many who are unaware of our coming and we need to ?step up the bar? as you would say.
I?m sorry to interrupt , but I have never used that expression .. Is it one?
We believe so. Complimentary acceptance of our message is abounding. How so many of you are ?listening? to your ?home station?! For in your souls you have known of this.
In accordance with immeasurable data regarding this planned occurrence we ask those of you on earth who are willing to assist us in our cause to ?jump on the bandwagon? and spread our message further. Although it has been received by many we ask you to be brave and continue to spread our original message.
IN LIGHT OF TRUTH ? TRUST YOURSELVES.
Prepare your beings for this day. It is of High importance to do so.
Friends of earth ? we implore you to work vigilantly within your beings to anchor your energy as it lifts into a Higher Light. When we say you shall need to keep your feet on the ground ? we mean it ? literally. We do not wish to baffle and yet we are unable to reveal certain Truths at this point and you Blossom accept this. We ask others to do the same.The CHANGE that has been long awaited is here. Rejoice in the power of yourself and feel it uplift you in the knowing of its TRUTH ? at last. May we say further more that those of you who wish to excel in the time frame allocated, make it your ?duty? to ?soften the blow? (?)
Not connected with ?hold on to your hats? by any chance???
Dearest Blossom ? we ask others to be like you. To remain in LIGHT spirit regarding these events that are to ?as you say ? ?Rock your world?.
Have to be honest and perhaps a bit egotistical here (oh ...I do hope not), but this rock the world thing ? is it in my mind because a lady wrote to me and called me ?The woman who rocked the world?! I told my husband and he said Suzie Quatro might be a little put out ? Earth joke? you might need o get your ?funny? dictionary out! In these recent days instead of saying ?God I HOPE you turn up?. I have found myself saying ?I know you?re coming. I know you?re coming?. And what a wonder it shall be. We need this so much. Oh dear ? and now, out of the blue, tears filling my eyes. I guess because my soul feels the earth?s pain perhaps.
We could leave it no longer and we say that it has been brought forward from its intended date originally. For in past days it was expected that it would not be for a few more of your earth years and yet events have been scheduled in conjunction with suitable time frames to coincide with our appearance and it is accepted that we are carrying out necessary movement in order for your planet to remain one of great beauty. Beauty that it once was and shall soon be able to return to.
Do not be down hearted friends. You will be amazed at how tolerant your species can be of such changes, when they KNOW in their Truth that we are of a kind that please not dis/ease. Many shall awaken in your month of Oct. before and after the event. Your mother dear Blossom being one of them.
You have NO IDEA how that would thrill me! Should have invested in some tissues today!! But all is good.
And finally this session we would like to make an announcement.
I sort of felt that coming!
We that are not from your atmospheres state categorically that we intend to ?shake? your world. It has remained stagnant for too long and we now appear in your skies to bring about the ?shift? that is necessary to take the vibration that you are now residing within into a Higher level of LOVE. Prepare for this. Prepare your souls and prepare others. We do not jest when we say ?Allegiance to the Nations of the Federation is set in stones of history and future alike. They are one and the same. Fellow beings of Light, as has been foretold ? we are coming to unveil the mists. And when this has taken its rightful place, so too shall you. Join with us brothers and sisters of The Oneness.
OUR LOVE WILL BREAK THROUGH ANY BARRIERS OF UNTRUTHS THAT MAY BE SENT TO CONFUSE. FEAR NOT.
Be with us in standing of strength and courage and the knowledge that we are close to fulfilling the prophesies that are set in stone.
That made me think of carvings that have been found in caves etc.
Thank you for today. Whilst writing I have been filled with a sort of ?swords of light to the skies? comradery. Where I?m getting these kind of words from I don?t know for I don?t speak like this in my every day chat. Actually ?der!?? Of course I know where I?m getting it from. I continue to be your messenger and I am very proud to do so, now that the initial shock of doing what I had to do is slowly but surely settling down within my being. Until next time my space mates, have a good day Oh; if I were you I?d fill your fuel tanks up before you come ? its very expensive down here!! Yep ? dictionary!
Unnecessary for both fuel and dictionary. Adieu.
Adieu? That?s White Cloud?s signature as you know. Interesting! But I know that must be all for today. Many thanks in Love, Light and that Laughter that should be made compulsory. A good day for us both I feel.
Pleiadian Renegades through Amanda R. Ryan
?Before we arrive in the skies, please know that you are much loved by a civilization that spans the stars.?
Seems the web is abuzz with speculation about dramatic displays of men from outer space showing up in your calendar date of October 14 of this year. We are not here to dispel that rumor, but to ask you one question: Are you ready to meet people who your ancestors called the gods? We do not call ourselves that, and neither should you. We are merely people of a different reality with a different understanding of what it means to be human. Of all the stories you?ve heard of our presence on Earth in other times and places, none of them is true to how our arrival will be for you now. A new reality is coming to your world - not just to a limited few but to everyone everywhere. It is something that in the history of your planet has never happened before, on the scale that it is in simultaneously with the awakening of the planet?s consciousness as it enters a field of living light. It is, however, as has been predicted by ancient scriptures and sculptures. These records exist for a reason, and that is to prepare you not to repeat the past but to step forward into a new way of being. So we ask, are you ready? It is up to you whether our appearance brings you peace or freaks you out completely. We suggest doing a little preparation work as much in advance as you can to avoid any undue stress as realities collide. If you?re ready to be ready, let?s begin.
Before we arrive in the skies, please know that you are much loved by a civilization that spans the stars. All of you together, and each individual close to our hearts we hold. It doesn?t matter how much you?ve screwed things up in your life or your family?s, it doesn?t matter what kind of pain your life has held, it doesn?t matter where you were born, what your name is, or if you?re not a nice person. Each of you is connected together to the fabric of love; each of you is known and cherished as part of the greater Self of whom we speak when we refer to OM. Rhymes with ?home?.
When you think about all the ways in which the ancient myths and legends portray the gods of the sky, those clothed in light, those who left cryptic messages about great truths, it is understandably meant as representational of what could not be explained by contemporary technology, right? Myths tell the story of what was observed and recorded by the people experiencing certain events with certain people of ability and knowingness far greater than their own. When a myth tells of gods appearing out of thin air, you must understand there is technology that can do that. This concept is not so alien to viewers of Star Trek, however. It really is as simple as flipping a switch.
For every age, there have been avatars, gods, holy men and saints. In your present age, you do not need any such figurehead to set your world aright. You need only recognize in yourselves and in each other the same spirit, the same power, the same clarity of mind and heart as any whose light has changed the hearts of humanity by lighting the way to love. You are your own messiahs, christs, bodhisattvas and saviors. Those who have come to your reality in other times and places were the preparers. Now the time of your awakening to your own divinity is at hand. Are you ready?
QuoteThe Galactic Federation do not want a confrontation where they are forced to defend themselves, not that they couldn't as they clearly can deal with whatever is thrown at them. It would give the impression that some kind of Space War was starting, and that is the last thing they want. That may also put some of our people at risk, so they would not take chances where our safety was concerned.?
at projetcamelot http://projectcamelot.org/index.html they are looking for many near events about economic crash and military affairs world war 3, and something going up to mid 02-2009
at my french favorite medium, he just talk about two earth quake and tsunamis in near future , and Hanna
http://www.minet.ca/~mega/pages/page%202008/septembre.htm
so....
it is possible that all is starting with a tsunamis, then Galactic Federation might appears causing a world economic crash and military world war
nothing is sure , future always changing
the looking glass technology has failed too, we are no more in the time line 83 as military alien device showed them from many years
all mediums may fail to look at the future, every channels can be abuse by aliens astral entity
the channel above is not sure at all as well
it is very interesting to read this topic and see the still changing future
future = not sure
a song for you John Legend Out There on youtube, i hearing constantly that song this days
Howdy Y'all,
So did anyone else read the "Allies of Humanity' book?
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 06, 2008, 08:56:34 AMSo did anyone else read the "Allies of Humanity' book?
I did and found it informative. My understanding is also that it's written from a specific perspective that not necessarily includes a "forking" of earth's (or earth's population's) reality (like for example the different paths mentioned by the Founders).
Howdy Orbs,
Although I am only about half way through, I found it to be terrifying, yet strangely familiar. It reminds me of the cutthroat corporate environment except on a galactic and much more competitive scale. Corporate mergers and acquisitions could be analogous to their collectives acquiring worlds to harvest the resources. It also reminds me of the Borg in Star Trek TNG. Collectives of beings traveling through space to assimilate cultures and worlds simply to add their resources and technology to the collective. This makes me think that we need to beef up SDI pronto. We need mo bigger honking space guns, and space fairing battleships.
Also, we have experienced this already with the Dulce situation. Eisenhower signed a treaty with the Reptilians and the Grays in good faith (Eisenhower was ignorant of this information) then the Reptilians and Grays promptly disregarded the treaty and did as they pleased. This lead to the Dulce War. That is a good primer for interacting with aggressive alien species. Hopefully we will be more trepidatious next time we start to make a treaty with extraterrestrials.
Blessed Be...
Initially i laughed when reading the details of Oct 14, and i do not know why i opened this thread, as i do not normally have an interest in these types of matters, except i have read the philosophy in the WingMakers link someone posted in this thread somewhere.. I am not one expecting this object to appear as claimed, nor do i have any have an opinion of non expectation. More a matter of ok, a few people are very convinced and they have the benefit of the doubt. If it does happen, then i personally would not assume what i have been told as correct.
Quote from: SwinG on September 04, 2008, 02:28:58 AM
This document suggests that things are not that black and white. Can't asses the reliability of the content though.
http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/allies-of-humanity-book1.pdf
Interesting reading, anyway. A bit spookey :o
Thanks for the link. I am about half way through it now, and strongly recommend it to others.
Very Interesting. Makes sense to me. I have always had an awareness of the edges of some of the pieces relating to what is said in there, but had no idea of its depth and breadth. Now i see the bigger picture. The free energy people have been more aware of the suppression and how far the corruption and control has been within the Governments around the world, along with the control from the energy resource power brokers, to a great extent than the general public realize. MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN, this PDF goes a big step further. It does for me anyway. It also seems to me to suggest a good probability of Alien visitors have set up many things to suit their hidden agendas through their (already having) infiltration into the cultures, religions, institutions, any recognizable groups with systems of thoughts that includes New Agers. They have infiltrated our language and whole concept of reality, in a way that i am starting to see the immensity of it.
What is the probability that behind the suppressors in government and even the cartels/ power brokers on this planet, is Aliens, who have been helping behind the scenes to; stir up wars/ fighting amongst ourselves ; through institutions, and aggressive business practices promoting things that create problems through the current western medical systems/ schooling/ creation of pollution through design and suppression of development/ through the propagated hatred and unhealthy ways of emotionally relating towards towards one another (Hollywood has done a good job of being peoples mentors, as has religions and even Academics who feel and act violently because they feel some law handed down through Academia has been violated, so they speak and act aggressively in defence of this law in their mind, propagating much turmoil - Just go and read comments in a Youtube free energy experiment and you will understand what i am talking about)/ pollution, and there's probably more, but the gist of it, is the initial set up of problems. The next step is for them to waltz in with the solutions.
How many people are going to question their motives and think and asses for themselves. I do not think telepathic ability is a pre requisite for having humanities best interest at heart necessarily.
Now as i said, i do not know one way or another if this craft will appear, but if it does, i make no assumptions, one way or another.
Howdy Johnyb,
Despite your skepticism, you have remarkable clarity of the situation. We have been masterfully manipulated by forces that are as yet unknown to us. It would require beings of advanced mental powers to do this. I feel used...
Here's another outlandish book, albeit very odd, is actually quite good...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item126
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 06, 2008, 09:35:44 AMThis makes me think that we need to beef up SDI pronto. We need mo bigger honking space guns, and space fairing battleships
This is not the way to go though, the way I'm reading it. As I understand it, they have no interest in a take-over using weapons or to destroy resources (which, at least initially, would include humanity). Increase of personal awareness, independence (independent thinking, also independent from government and religion) and getting an own feeling for what is (one's own) truth seems to be the key. As well as using (your) spirituality (without the religion's controls and limitations). Basically working towards being a sovereign being. So I feel that several of the channelings that go for self-empowerment are right on.
Yeah, talk about
Star Trek. Remember the
telepaths of
Babylon 5? ;)
Howdy Y'all,
Here is another alien account of life on a planet called Iarga. The Iargans are described as being like Reptilians although the book never describes them as being Reptilian overtly...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item127
Blessed Be...
I knew there was something odd about Paris Hilton. Turns out she's a reptilian hybrid!
http://www.wiolawapress.com/hilton.htm (http://www.wiolawapress.com/hilton.htm)
;D
More screaming all caps and bad color schemes at http://www.wiolawapress.com/ (http://www.wiolawapress.com/).
Yes I know of what you speak.
Channeling is no exact science and the quality of the channel is always questioned...
But I will tell you channeling goes on every second of every day...
Raw sewage is channeled beneath the ground and refined...
Imagine all the methane gas that could be harnessed from this crappy channel.
Muah!
Believe in possibility but do not be brainwashed and ignore your skeptic side.
When you lose your ability to question something you have been brain washed.
Signing off as,
The Lizard King
Sluuuuurp Gotta Love Them Grey Crickets
Show me the ship!
Quote from: infringer on September 06, 2008, 11:49:17 AMWhen you lose your ability to question something you have been brain washed.
You might also first have to develop the awareness to even
see the "something". I would guess that's the bigger problem/brainwash.
This may interest you Open Minded Souls
From the same Group that formed Project Camelot
http://www.projectavalon.net
Not officially launched yet, but live and will be offically open either tonight or tomorrow.
Over 100 pre-members that listened to the latest George Green Interview have registered already.
Cheers
Sean.
Clanzer, just wondering what your opinion of George Green is? I haven't read the interview you mention but have seen videos where he is demonstrating his magnetic 'motors' - one that you effectively demonstrated in one of your reproductions just do not work! Personally, I view someone who pushes stuff that clearly does not work with suspicion...
Hey dunno man this all is just circumstatial sure I believe in the possibility but I do not wish to fully believe in something without evidence...
I do believe aliens are a good possibility as well as illuminati and such ...
Dont believe me visit my website I have sections dedicated to that and doomsday and many other contriversial topics they are there because they are of interest to me ...
But some things do not add up in what people say period.
I would say there is more then enough mounting evidence to prove that there had to be some devine intervention through history and most of the proof lies in summarian texts... They knew the color of planets how many there were and so much more...
How could they have known all this? And there is way more to it that is just the tip of the iceberg.
But reptiles, Galatic Federation of Light, and such are very very sketchy in my views.
Howdy Y'all,
The "Allies of Earth" document says that the "visitors" use their superior mental powers to convince us that they benevolent. We need the enhanced SDI and space worthy battleships to fend them off when we find out they only want our resources.
All of this information is worthless until we have some sort of actual tangible contact, then we can go back and sort out the truth from the hokum. We know something is out there. Whether it is good or evil we have yet to see.
I know that there is a balance of good and evil in the universe. This ship that is coming is unknown. It is prudent to meet them so that we can make progress into the great unknown. But it is also prudent to have the infantry and artillery waiting in the background just in case. Never trust what you do not intimately know. Eisenhower knows this first hand.
There are a lot of names that I have used to try and identify these beings, maybe none of them are adequate. We will have to wait and see if we call them friend or foe...
Blessed Be...
Oh, idunno what you have been reading at the moment but please take a step back a minute and think. If they were hostile they could have already attacked us so we don't need any guns. Free will has to be upheld on this planet it must be FACT else if free will were not real they would have taken us already, I mean why wait till now to do it? If you are evolving as you should be you will know the difference between evil and good because you should be a master of it, we live in the playground that teaches this. I also believe negative entities auras run anti clockwise while we run clockwise so we would feel it instantly.
namaste.
Howdy Shooter001,
Sure, if they were conquerors, whey would have totally overran us. But if they are business people, or beings, they are going to wait for the market. I live in The Republic of Texas. I KNOW Business people, or beings, and I know they are going to wait for the prime advantage. They are going to wait for the perfect time where the profit is prime. This is so sneaky, and I was so duped by it. Regardless, we need to be ready for anything. We just don't know who or what these beings are. You just cannot trust in your heart until you know that you can trust. If my mother stepped off that ship and said "Z.Monkey, you can trust me" I would shoot her, because my mother wouldn't say that. What we are dealing with is completely unknown. Despite what I said earlier, you could be in extreme danger...
"The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance" - Thomas Jefferson
Blessed Be...
Regarding the reason they are coming....preventing nuclear war.
Have we not pushed past that phase of weapons development? We are most definitely applying directed energy weapons, whose scope is unknown but likely comparable to the difference between the first mortar cannons and the modern artillery launcher. If you were going to split the earth in half (or an incoming asteroid/comet/ship) you would be using directed energy not nuclear reaction as your primary motivator. What threat does nuclear weaponry carry in the modern age? It is mostly useful for killing civilian populations (as seen by the 2 nuclear weapons dropped during ww2 by usa).
There are much more effective and prosperous means to eliminate the civilian population though. Poisoning/restricting food and water supplies, limiting access to medical care and knowledge, releasing contact-transmitted diseases (to prevent the accidental infection of the "good" guys, divide and conquer (racial tension, 2 party political system), neutron style bombs.
There is no threat of this planet being engulfed by the stockpile of nuclear weapons, unless those that have been steadily advancing the design of ufos in the skies above earth, decide they have found a more suitable place to live, and want to cause a lot of suffering and destruction when they leave, for fear of humanity taking revenge on them for what they did here (that would be my best guess for a reason).
Having said that, if there are governments armed with nuclear stockpiles, who have not been involved in the suppression of mankind, you could expect them to aim those weapons at whoever they perceived to be the leaders of the world conspiracy, in defense of both their sovereign status, and humanity in general.
Looking at the industrialized nations, which can say it was not involved in the cover up of energy technologies? That is why I stopped reading the posts of Lee Tseung, there is good story there, but to say that china has attempted to bring about a change in the energy economy in a beneficial way seems false to me.
To china: Build a pulse motor/battery pack powered, HHO burning hybrid car, mass produce it, first for your population and then for world markets. Advertise this miracle invention on CCTV, improve humanity. I believe this could have been possible as early as the 50's or 60's in simple form based on schaubergers work with sound waves, or the 1980's based on stanley meyers work. Were the chinese unaware of the "car that runs on water"? It was shown on public television, was no verification of this attempted?
To russia: In the us, some would have us believe you have tesla-based military technology. If that is true, surely you could have worked on his beneficial technologies as well. Would communism not be a much more acceptable form of government, if the state had massively more energy at its disposal? (recycle everything, waste nothing, pollute nothing....the system would be easy to design with large supplies of energy).
By extension, wouldn't all forms of government be more acceptable, if the states gave more than they took? Mutual cooperation could have given us nearly unlimited mutual abundance, why was cooperation not a trait of the ruling class?
If you believe aliens are the cause of suppression, I ask the same question. Mutual abundance grants more than strife. Who benefits from fractional gain by destruction, more than mutual abundance?
Howdy SeantheLight,
The malevolent aliens gain by the division of the planet. If we cannot get along with ourselves then we are FAR easier to conquer. Regardless of all the petty issues, overall, if we cannot stand together as a world, then we only have a house of cards that will fold at the slightest extraterrestrial action. As difficult as this is for me to say, we need a unified World Government to deal with a potential threat such as this...
Blessed Be...
QUOTED::: playground that teaches this. I also believe negative entities auras run anti clockwise while we run clockwise so we would feel it instantly.
This sounds like an old civil war dog from the south trying to bring back the ways of the south coded in another message....
Water drains counter clockwise in the north.
Just like the Dark and Light Parodies I see everywhere...
Counter clockwise does not spell evil however if you read evil from east to west it says you guessed it live and lived well you can figure that out too...
There are a lot of things that are read into that should not be taken for more then what is said almost as if everyone who writes trys to be cryptic rather then blunt and straight up...
Do not buy the bull untill you see the bull how do you know you are not getting a steer instead just labled wrong...
Howdy Infinger,
Just because I live in the Republic of Texas doesn't make me an "old civil war dog". I have no axe to grind there. Our situation doesn't have anything to do with old world politics. I am suggesting caution when it comes to any visitors from space. We are dealing with unknown forces and prudence would suggest caution. That is all that I am saying. Wisdom would suggest that a strong defense is a proper course of action. But if you like you can greet the "visitors" with flowers and peace in your heart. It is your choice. I would rather meet them in a board room with an armada at my back...
Blessed Be...
Does a world government pose more threat to humanity than alien invasion?
Government is the reason we are technologically limited as a society. Looking at the invasion of militarily defenseless countries like Iraq, tells me that as long as the defending team can cause losses, and not be eliminated entirely, they can maintain their area without a governmental system.
So imagine that governmental agents, corporations, and police forces no longer posed a threat to the individual inventor or group. How quickly would cooperative people pool together to develop advantageous technologies? Look at this forum for an idea of that in action. How many good tech's have passed through this forum? TPU replication, HHO cells, water arc fusion, etc.
Meanwhile, government is what seems to pose a threat to this amateur research. Would any of us really be surprised if a couple of our favorite energy technology forums were taken down? There already seems to be disinfo type behavior on this forum. Would you say those people are alien's? The odds are much better that it is a being from this planet.
More evidence that the ufo's are human.....the development of flying saucers has progressed steadily since the vril. From fairly clumsy machines to the very 90's/millenium look they are given to today. The performance envelope of reported ufo's has steadily increased as well. You would expect to see this if the technology was being advanced here on earth, but not if it had been developed by a much more advanced civilization (those early craft were clearly not capable of interstellar travel.....in my opinion....lol)
So sincerely I ask, does a world government pose more threat to humanity than an alien invasion?
Has the government systems we've already had, left us more defenseless against stellar threats such as comet/asteroid, alien invasion, supernova, climate change, etc?
Do the governmental systems we currently have, allow thousands of innocent people to die of starvation every day, when humanity clearly has the technology and resources necessary to apply all that is necessary for people to sustain themselves?
What is the advantage of a world government?
Howdy SeantheLight,
That is a good question. If a world government is going to act like the shadow government in America then we don't want it. Being "managed" by aliens would be the same if not worse. Of course, the way it looks now we are being managed by aliens through our governments.
If we can reign in the governments, eliminate the dark elements, and weed out the corruption, and eliminate the corporate lobbying and bribery process then we could have national governments that we can trust. A World Government could be formed by representation from each National Government. We need the diversity of local, state, and national governments. Representation from all those governments form the world government so that we would have a single front for any visitors from space to interact with.
I am not someone who wants bigger government. There would need to be massive reforms and some sort of machinery which would prevent the governments from becoming corrupted again, such as private sector oversights and full disclosure of all activities. In essence the government would not be allowed to keep secrets from the public. What I am suggesting may not even be possible noting the state of man at this point. We cannot trust the governments because we cannot trust man in general at this point. But if we don't form a single consolidated front our world could become a sub-state of some alien entity, I don't want to see that.
So what is the lesser of two evils? World government or alien government?
Blessed Be...
@z.monkey
To correct the government
1. The party system has to be abolished.
2. Each candidate has to be allowed equal time and not allowed commercial advertisement but have equal finical capability.
(this plays the rich mans game, for money overshadows all to often.)
3. The Media has to refrain from making opinions their facts. ( misleading opinions )
4. due to the size of the country a special television channel for the candidates for each hour a minute each unless they are having a debate.
5. Candidate qualifications would be that they held a lower office, like governor, congress, senate, ect. ect. This way the possible candidates have to prove worthiness first, and not just any person off the street.
6. While in lower office they have to live as a common person to keep in touch with the people. None of this private jet stuff, but it doesn't stop a diplomatic budget but limited by law. We don't need no Pre-Madonnas playing filthy rich on our taxes.
We don't need or want to stop people from being rich, we just need them out of our government for there views will always be one sided, and the poorer populations are always the ones to suffer from their greed.
Speaking of the best forms of government, having just finished the 'Thiaoouba Phophecy' ebook, according to 'them', the only form of government that works is one comprised of individuals that are directly elected by the people, and where the prospective candidates would personally not benefit from such a position, meaning that anyone who took up the position would not have done so for personal gain. The capitalist system does exactly the opposite - offer huge salaries (directly or indirectly) in the hope of attracting the "right candidates", making greed and power the dominant influences - is it any wonder we are in the mess we are in...
Interestingly, we are often told that unless we "mend our ways", ridding ourselves of corruption and cleaning up the planet, we will meet a sticky end, however, the Kingdon of Mu was held up as an example of how things should be done, but they (ellegedly) were wiped out by natural forces in a matter of days anyway!
One other observation, I noted quite a few contradictions exist between the Thiaoouba Phophecy book and 'The Founders on Earth History'...
Quote from: AB Hammer on September 07, 2008, 10:48:00 AM
@z.monkey
To correct the government
1. The party system has to be abolished.
2. Each candidate has to be allowed equal time and not allowed commercial advertisement but have equal finical capability.
(this plays the rich mans game, for money overshadows all to often.)
3. The Media has to refrain from making opinions their facts. ( misleading opinions )
4. due to the size of the country a special television channel for the candidates for each hour a minute each unless they are having a debate.
5. Candidate qualifications would be that they held a lower office, like governor, congress, senate, ect. ect. This way the possible candidates have to prove worthiness first, and not just any person off the street.
6. While in lower office they have to live as a common person to keep in touch with the people. None of this private jet stuff, but it doesn't stop a diplomatic budget but limited by law. We don't need no Pre-Madonnas playing filthy rich on our taxes.
We don't need or want to stop people from being rich, we just need them out of our government for there views will always be one sided, and the poorer populations are always the ones to suffer from their greed.
AB Hammer
I don't disagree with anything that you have said here.
But I do think that all you have suggested here is impossible. At least from a physical viewpoint .
Our entire system is based on power and greed. This will not change until humanity changes.
As long as humanity worships greed and power above all the things you list can't be changed . They are the ways power and greed are attained.
I don't see any PHYSICAL way to overcome any of these problems . In my opinion there is only one way that is left for humanity to save itself . Spiritual growth .
For a few days after 911 The USA and New York in particular dropped the greed and power games for a few days . There was a completely different feel . For me the difference in feeling was very profound .
Sometimes being truly shaken up will cause us to look at things differently .
This is the reason for the temporary change of feeling after 911 For a few days simply being alive was enough . There was gratitude that loved ones were still alive. There was compassion for all .
I still have not received anything about a ship arriving on the 14th .
I truly hope that it does arrive.
I truly hope that our governments see it only as a threat and throw everything that they have at it.
The message said that the ships defensive shields would be needed .
When all of our combined military do the best that they can but have absolutely no effect humanity will be shaken up ....... especially those that have worshiped power and greed the most.
Not everyone will need to be shaken up . Those that are spiritually aware enough to feel the love in the message of this ship arriving will be having a great time . They will be chearing and celebrating .
For all that are spiritually aware enough to feel it the love that this ship will bring will be almost over whelming The feeling of joy and peace will be so strong it will be hard to do anything but party .
:)
If this vist happens as stated
And IF the people that worship power and greed are shaken up enough .
We could end up with changes within that eventually will end up in the decline and fall of power and greed as the primary powers driving humanity .
In my opinion we can't get to this kind of transition by any physical means.
The only way to get there is by humanity understanding that life is not just about the physical .
We are more than physical. We are spiritual.
In my opinion if these changes happen, earth will soon start a transition .
A transition into heaven on earth.
gary
Quote from: resonanceman on September 07, 2008, 12:01:49 PM
understanding that life is not just about the physical .
We are more than physical. We are spiritual.
In my opinion if these changes happen, earth will soon start a transition .
A transition into heaven on earth.
gary
Nice Gary.
@All,
James Gilliland has an interesting Retreat center where he has been taking movies and pictures of ships for many years. He has also had personal contact and writes about it.
He copywrited a document which is concise and eloquent.
Some interesting things he points out are:
The benevolent beings are not allowed to force. This is the reason I have responded with hope at this oct 14 announcement. They have said they must inform us first, which is what they did, and, they will just sit there in defensive posture.
In another place, which may be on his DVD, he states that they have been waiting to be i
nvited. They are not permitted to do much until then, and of course, the military is always harassing them, which is not very inviting ;) I have a feeling that since he started publishing this specific need to invite them that many have indeed done that, and , perhaps this is the reason this oct 14th event could be happening.
I guess, we won't know until then, but it does feel good enough for me to be hopeful.
Because his document has copywrite on it, I will just give you the link to his website. Those interested can follow up.
http://www.eceti.org/Eceti.html (http://www.eceti.org/Eceti.html)
The paper is called:
A_Galactic_Exchange_University.doc
jeanna
Howdy AB, Sprocket, Resonanceman, Jeanna,
Yeah, the situation that we have now is self defeating. It is a wonder we get anything done. Lemuria (Mu) existed for 50,000 years without a war. Supposedly Christ himself was the supreme ruler of Lemuria and the form of government was a christed monarchy, meaning you find the right person whose heart is pure, and cannot be corrupted, and make them King for life. When the time comes for a new King you have the arduous process of finding the right person again. They had an extensive system of checks and balances which provided oversight of the governing system. The public was involved in all areas of the government, and there was no secrecy. The biggest problem with the US.Gov is the "National Security" secrecy. It allows them to do anything they want without public disclosure. This needs to be stopped right now.
According to the Sirians (from Sirius) there is already a plan in action. The people who they call the Earth Allies (Earth people who have been contacted by the Galactic Federation and work for them) are already implementing the changes that we, and they, seek. This includes cleaning up governments, the banking system, energy production, and detoxifying the Earth. From their information everything is in place for a sweeping changeover once all the right factors are in place.
Sirian (from Sirius) Updates available here http://www.paoweb.com/
Speaking of the private jet set stuff, do you know how much it costs to fuel and maintain a jet aircraft? A small one costs millions. To fuel and maintain a 747 is billions of dollars. It is totally ridiculous. But as long as you have plenty of money from fleecing the public who cares how much it costs, right? Essentially taxes are stolen money, legalized thievery. In Lemuria the government was funded by a commerce tithe where the businesses voluntarily contributed a flat 10% to the government to cover operating costs. When the government wasn't doing what the public wanted they could cutoff the tithe money and the government was stopped cold. This is an intriguing idea for modern times. Of course the government isn't going to like it, but if the people enforce it they will have to comply...
You are correct in saying that we, as a people, need to realize that we are mental spiritual beings first and physical animal bodies second. This would improve our situation tremendously.
Blessed Be...
z.monkey, you are quick to point a finger to release blame on others, but you have not addressed my questions directly.
"So sincerely I ask, does a world government pose more threat to humanity than an alien invasion?
Has the government systems we've already had, left us more defenseless against stellar threats such as comet/asteroid, alien invasion, supernova, climate change, etc?
Do the governmental systems we currently have, allow thousands of innocent people to die of starvation every day, when humanity clearly has the technology and resources necessary to apply all that is necessary for people to sustain themselves?
What is the advantage of a world government?"
And your response was a question, which I will take the time to answer since my intentions are benevolent.
"So what is the lesser of two evils? World government or alien government?"
My answer is, self governance, by a wide margin. The destruction and suffering caused by governmental systems is detrimental to mankind. The ability to develop and apply defensive technology would be increased if suppression was not being inflicted on us by governmental systems.
I am concerned you are pushing on us the agenda of the malevolent humans I believe are suppressing us, but I do appreciate the chance to discuss the matter.
Howdy SeantheLight,
Well I thought that I had answered that question with my previous post. Obviously if we have a single government for the entire world which acts like the current government that would be worse than any alien invasion because they would directly have dominion over the entire world. In a way they have that already, and we see multitudinous ill effects as you mentioned. Just the population reduction concept is bad enough by itself. I am not pushing the Elitist NWO Illuminati agenda. This is not the World Government I am describing.
Intelligent enlightened people can govern themselves. I am for self governance. The Elitist NWO Illuminati are going to be defeated, and in their place we need a world government which is enlightened like the people who will be left after the great cleansing of the Earth. Part of the whole idea behind this ship on 10/14/2008, and the First Contact Mission is to cleanup the mess that the Annunaki and the Illuminati have made of the world. These evil people are going bye bye, and those of us who are left have to restructure our world in accordance with the Galactic Federation. They have a system of guidelines that will establish a fair and honest system of government which includes representation at all levels, city (local), state, national, and world. I would imagine that this new government would be a christed monarchy with various levels of councils, all based on the idea of self governance. There will be a fixed set of laws and the laws will be kept to a minimum to make the law easy to understand, unlike it is now. These laws are based on the Galactic codex which I posted earlier. After this government is established and the world begins to interact with alien visitors on a regular basis is when we need improved space fairing defensive capabilities. We will need to prevent bad aliens from taking advantage of us. So the world government that I am talking about is post first contact.
Blessed Be...
AB Hammer is right about party politics...which by its nature breeds collusion.
Further to that...zone representatives should have no contact with each other other than in public meetings or recorded and transcribed conference calls...they should socialize with their constituents.
Coincidentally, I too read the 'Thiaoouba Phophecy' some 10 years back...quite a mindbender at the time.
I would also recommend 'The Education Of Over Soul 7' by Jane Roberts as channeled by "Seth".
As to the Whorld government vs alien intervention...
We already know what our whorld leaders have in store for us.
If the "aliens" look like us and are really aliens...then I would accept any help offered...and absolutely no commitments.
I know I've had enough "leadership" to last an eternity.
Regards...
september 30th, is the end of the fiscal year, for the US government.
the US government, is rediculously bankrupt.
that means that unless someone pulls some serious ass-saving manuvers, or flat out ignores the situation, the US government will go bankrupt.
"i" think that the earth allies, are planning to remove the dark clowns before september 30th.
because september 30th is as long as they can wait, before major "problems" develop.
i also think that the aliens planned the october 14th flyover, because they expect the dark clowns to be removed, because of september 30th.
october 14th, is 2 weeks after september 30th.
2 weeks is enough time for the earth allies to calm the public, and reconfigure the system a little.
by the way.
the best possible form of government,
is to have as much of the populace as possible, involved in the decision making process.
(to say nothing of the responsibility)
this would be possible, because:
* decision-making happens, as locally as possible.
right down to the individual person.
(this is the exact opposite of our system. which tries to limit the decision making to a few individuals.)
* each individual is trained, to make critical/informed/considerate decisions, under their own power.
(the consequences of a decision, go to the individual who made the decision.)
* only laws which are IMPORTANT, are passed.
a law which cannot be supported by 90% or more of the population, is not important enough to be a law!
(the law only applies to the LOCATION, of the population that passed it.)
(so if an individual does not like the law in one location, they could move to any of thousands of other locations)
there is more. but you get the idea.
Howdy Nitinnun,
It's always nice to have your input. The US.GOV, now over 7 trillion in debt, has been in debt since the first world war. Do you remember back during the Clinton administration when the government actually shut down for a couple of weeks? The bankers were holding out letting the people sweat, trying to affirm their "power". This time it is for real. The Illuminati bankers are being stifled at every move. They cannot get the money to flow where it needs to go. This is the effect of the Earth Allies blocking every move they make. This time they are not going to be able to pull it off. The end of this fiscal year is the end period.
It is funny that the debt incurred is by the supposedly elected people but they expect the taxpayers to foot the bill. They spend money like crazy and expect someone else (the taxpayer) to pay for it. Hows that for irony. I buy as much as I possibly can and expect you to pay for it, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaaaa.....
You have the right idea about localized government, it is very hard for our "masters" to comprehend. What? Individuals making decisions, you can't do that! You must submit to our authority! Only we have the ability to spend unbelievable amounts of money. A common man can't make those decisions, the Annunaki said so. Ahhh. Ahhh Ahhh...
It's like some sort of wicked science fiction that we are caught up in. The evil overlords who are so arrogant that they cannot let go of a simple decision like what kind of toilet paper we should use. We do not require the help of the government to decide which kind of toilet paper to use! Let it go! We don't have to worry about them much longer. They are a stones throw away from getting their own retirement in hell. I hope they have a nice time, for eternity...
So, thanks for the enlightened input Nitinnun,
Blessed Be Brother...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 07, 2008, 09:58:56 PM
Do you remember back during the Clinton administration when the government actually shut down for a couple of weeks? The bankers were holding out letting the people sweat, trying to affirm their "power".
What? The 1995 shutdown had nothing to do with bankers affirming their power. It came about because a budget bill was not passed in time, due to a political fight.
Howdy Madsen,
That is what he media told you. You don't know what was going on behind the scenes...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 07, 2008, 10:19:59 PM
Howdy Madsen,
That is what he media told you. You don't know what was going on behind the scenes...
Blessed Be...
Hi z.monkey,
That could be true, but do you know any better than me what actually happened?
BTW, those are nice chilies in your avatar---did you grow them?
Howdy Madsen,
Well, I only have my intuition, and confidence that the media lies...
The avatar is from the Tomato Growers Supply Company, but my chiles
are just as impressive. Those are Kung Pao chiles, I have quite a variety.
I grow Habanero,Jalapeno, Cayenne, Pimento, and Poblano. I also grow
tomatoes, garlic, onions, and lots of herbs, mo especially oregano...
Blessed Be Brother...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 07, 2008, 11:16:35 PM
Howdy Madsen,
Well, I only have my intuition, and confidence that the media lies...
The avatar is from the Tomato Growers Supply Company, but my chiles
are just as impressive. Those are Kung Pao chiles, I have quite a variety.
I grow Habanero,Jalapeno, Cayenne, Pimento, and Poblano. I also grow
tomatoes, garlic, onions, and lots of herbs, mo especially oregano...
Blessed Be Brother...
Cool. I hope to grow chiles someday, but I'd need a greenhouse because my climate is terrible.
I'm afraid the US debt is a bit more than 7 trillion, more like 9.5 trillion!!! October seems to be the month of reckoning for quite a few things...
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ (http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/)
Howdy Sprocket,
Once you are up over a trillion whatsit matter?
$9,500,000,000 Good GOD, thatza lot of zeros.
That is thoroughly bankrupted, and there is
interest compounded daily on that amount.
No wonder the international bankers don't want
to give it up, they are making bizillions just
in interest... All the more reason to take them
out, permanently...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: nitinnun on September 07, 2008, 08:05:41 PMthe best possible form of government,
Or possibly to mimic how our human body works (or course that is not fully understood, and certainly isn't every cell and organ controlled by the brain). It seems to work quite well with over 50 trillion members (cells).
Howdy Y'all,
Check this out...
http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/stand_down_&_stand_aside.htm
Luis Prada has been gathering and compiling information for over a decade. I have found many excellent articles there. Many are channeled from Christ Michael and Christ Sananda (Jesus). The article posted above is from Christ Sananda (Jesus). The last two additions at the end deal with the ship coming on 10/14/2008...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 08, 2008, 07:25:38 AM
Howdy Sprocket,
Once you are up over a trillion whatsit matter?
$9,500,000,000 Good GOD, thatza lot of zeros.
That is thoroughly bankrupted, and there is
interest compounded daily on that amount.
No wonder the international bankers don't want
to give it up, they are making bizillions just
in interest... All the more reason to take them
out, permanently...
Blessed Be...
Hi z.monkey,
Actually, you forgot 3 zeros :D
But you make a good point---the countries that are lending us money definitely do not want to see us default on those loans. If the US went "bankrupt" somehow, then many people would be out a lot of money. In fact, it would be a major worldwide crisis, IMHO.
EDIT:
I had originally posted a wikipedia link here, but it looks as if its reliability is in question. Anyway, here's a link (http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2007/02/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=6&pr.y=20&sy=2004&ey=2008&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=156%2C158%2C132%2C112%2C134%2C111%2C136&s=GGD_NGDP&grp=0&a=) to a table giving General Government Gross Debt as a percentage GDP for seven major countries. (Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, UK and US). Note that the five of these countries have a ratio higher than the US.
So although I don't like the size of our public debt any more than you, we are nowhere near going "bankrupt".
Howdy Madsen,
$9,500,000,000,000 :o OMG!
Now that's a debt...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: madsen on September 08, 2008, 10:58:37 AM
.....So although I don't like the size of our public debt any more than you, we are nowhere near going "bankrupt".
I posted a link a few posts up which accurately portrays what the current debt is. As you were unaware of this figure, you may also not know that back in the early 90's when the debt stood at a paltry 1.5 trillion, many leading US economists were even then sounding the alarm bells, extrapolating forward, they predicted that by 2006 the debt would total 6 trillion, an alarming number, but the reality proved even worse - it was 7.5 trillion if memory serves!!! They also pointed out that this policy is unsustainable as just servicing the constantly growing interest would mean there was less and less available to pay back the principle loan! Also, check the above link for the date that the US government last attempted to reduce the principle loan amount (I'll save you time - Clinton, May 2000!) Add to that, even the CIA's site lists the US "external debt" to be 12.5 trillion, which is 60.8% of GDP...
So, the problem is not if they can service the interest, (the US taxpayer does that!) it is that they must also keep borrowing greater and greater amounts, just to keep the economy afloat - plotted on a graph, this approximates an exponential curve, just as the economists in the 90's predicted!
Unsustainable.....
is that 9.5 quadrillion?
the debt has been there for a long time.
the IMPORTANT PART, is if they are finally willing to collect.
if they want to keep claiming interest, than they will not call it.
if they FINALLY want this rotten system to change,
and want to implement their new system in its place,
but cannot do it because the dark clowns are in the way,
than collecting the debt is the perfect way to remove them and their power structure.
Quote from: Sprocket on September 08, 2008, 04:39:01 PM
I posted a link a few posts up which accurately portrays what the current debt is. As you were unaware of this figure, you may also not know that back in the early 90's when the debt stood at a paltry 1.5 trillion, many leading US economists were even then sounding the alarm bells, extrapolating forward, they predicted that by 2006 the debt would total 6 trillion, an alarming number, but the reality proved even worse - it was 7.5 trillion if memory serves!!!
???
How do you know I was unaware of the current national debt?
Also, the national debt was well over $2 trillion by 1990, not $1.5 trillion as you are saying.
Quote
They also pointed out that this policy is unsustainable as just servicing the constantly growing interest would mean there was less and less available to pay back the principle loan! Also, check the above link for the date that the US government last attempted to reduce the principle loan amount (I'll save you time - Clinton, May 2000!) Add to that, even the CIA's site lists the US "external debt" to be 12.5 trillion, which is 60.8% of GDP...
So, the problem is not if they can service the interest, (the US taxpayer does that!) it is that they must also keep borrowing greater and greater amounts, just to keep the economy afloat - plotted on a graph, this approximates an exponential curve, just as the economists in the 90's predicted!
Unsustainable.....
Yes, I am aware that the last time the budget was balanced was during the Clinton administration, and the last time before that was when LBJ was president. As I said before, I'm not happy about the large deficits we have incurred. However, I was objecting to the claim being made here that the US will go "bankrupt" in the next month or so. That's complete nonsense.
Hi all,
If you count all that is due by the government you end up with a much larger debt than known. They owe in future expenses and benefits for the retirement funds and Medicare plus the current debt amount over 53 trillions. The 9 trillions they say is a smoke screen. The hole is deeper than deep.
http://mwhodges.home.att.net/nat-debt/debt-nat-a.htm (http://mwhodges.home.att.net/nat-debt/debt-nat-a.htm)
Take care,
Michel
Howdy Nitinnun,
I think quadrillions would be three more zeros. The point is we can't keep borrowing more money to keep the economy propped up. This is a solid sign that this system isn't working properly. Money is loaned into the economy and has to be paid back with interest. The interest is compound so the money owed is more that the original money created therefore it can never be paid back. Also the money is created out of thin air, so every time they print up a bunch more money they are reducing the value of the dollar. Last I heard the dollar was worth 1% of what it was in 1900. This is because of inflation caused by printing fiat money like crazy.
So, today I found some new information about the ship coming. It was channeled from Adamu, a Pleiadian. He said the Lightship would be several miles wide and not 1000 or 2000 miles wide. Several miles is still pretty damn big. Still dwarfs an aircraft carrier. Supposedly this ship is already in orbit around Earth, but it is in a higher density so we cannot see it yet. They will have to increase the density of the ship to bring it down into our visible range. If anyone out there can see the higher densities (4th or 5th) start looking for the ship(s).
Blessed Be...
Sprocket's estimate is much closer to the mark. When you count in the interest to pay off that debt (which, because of the way the privately-owned Federal Reserve System sells us new money to service the already-existing debt at interest so it is impossible to ever really pay it off...), and the money stolen from the Social Security fund (which is illegal btw but has been going on for many years), the real dept is somewhere in the 35 Trillion Dollar area... This figure is being used by several politicians now.
You will not see the real figures published anywhere.
Quote from: Sprocket on September 08, 2008, 04:39:01 PM
Add to that, even the CIA's site lists the US "external debt" to be 12.5 trillion, which is 60.8% of GDP...
Not to nitpick, but $12.5 trillion is actually about 90% of GDP ($13.84 trillion), so the "external debt" situation is actually worse than that! ;)
I think the 60.8% refers to "public debt". I'm no economist though.
Quote from: madsen on September 08, 2008, 05:05:16 PM
???
How do you know I was unaware of the current national debt?
Also, the national debt was well over $2 trillion by 1990, not $1.5 trillion as you are saying.
Yes, I am aware that the last time the budget was balanced was during the Clinton administration, and the last time before that was when LBJ was president. As I said before, I'm not happy about the large deficits we have incurred. However, I was objecting to the claim being made here that the US will go "bankrupt" in the next month or so. That's complete nonsense.
Apologies, I misread what you wrote. Also, regarding the nineties figure, I was working from memory there...
I agree that a meltdown next month is unlikely, but when you see things like the recent fannie mae/freddy mac bailout, which will add a further $800 billion to the debt, you have got to wonder what kind of idiots are in charge - what happened to capitalism, survival of the fittest etc??? Of course the US isn't alone in this - the UK's recent bail-out of Northern Rock with public money is another example of where the rules only apply to the little guys...
Just seen your 'CIA' post - dunno, just quoting what I read on the site...
Quote from: Sprocket on September 08, 2008, 05:38:19 PM
Apologies, I misread what you wrote. Also, regarding the nineties figure, I was working from memory there...
I agree that a meltdown next month is unlikely, but when you see things like the recent fannie mae/freddy mac bailout, which will add a further $800 billion to the debt, you have got to wonder what kind of idiots are in charge - what happened to capitalism, survival of the fittest etc??? Of course the US isn't alone in this - the UK's recent bail-out of Northern Rock with public money is another example of where the rules only apply to the little guys...
No worries---sorry for my overreaction. I think we are basically in agreement then. I remember watching Reagan campaign against deficit spending before being elected, and then watching the debt basically double during his administration! Although I'm not a conservative, I've never liked the idea of the federal government borrowing more and more money, especially when it's not being invested in the future.
Quote from: Michelinho on September 08, 2008, 05:06:18 PM
Hi all,
If you count all that is due by the government you end up with a much larger debt than known. They owe in future expenses and benefits for the retirement funds and Medicare plus the current debt amount over 53 trillions. The 9 trillions they say is a smoke screen. The hole is deeper than deep.
http://mwhodges.home.att.net/nat-debt/debt-nat-a.htm (http://mwhodges.home.att.net/nat-debt/debt-nat-a.htm)
Take care,
Michel
I read somewhere (here maybe) that 50% of the US's 300+ million population is over 50 years - just think of the money they'd save if they released a virus that would only deliver its payload to old foggies! :) Not far off the half century myself so I hope it remains a joke...
Quote from: madsen on September 08, 2008, 05:48:03 PM
No worries---sorry for my overreaction. I think we are basically in agreement then. I remember watching Reagan campaign against deficit spending before being elected, and then watching the debt basically double during his administration! Although I'm not a conservative, I've never liked the idea of the federal government borrowing more and more money, especially when it's not being invested in the future.
I don't want to sound too gloomy either. I'm definitely not one of the "elites" that are spoken of here ( ;)), but still consider myself extremely fortunate overall. I have access to plenty of food and clean water, I didn't just have my house blown to bits by a hurricane like many people in Haiti, and I seem to be healthy at the moment. Even with the economic problems we have in the US, we are very rich by world standards. I think I have a much better life than probably 95% of all people that have ever lived.
madsen.
in this universe, anything can happen, at any time, for any reason.
especially regarding politicians, bankers, economics, deception, corruption, and limitless insane greed.
it is extremely foolish, to label anything in the universe, as "nonsense".
because if you are right, than your opinion was merely in agreement with how the universe rolled its dice.
and if you are wrong, than you are driving your car while blindfolded.
and right or wrong, it earns you new enemies, to declare that peoples opinions are garbage.
maybe i should declare YOUR OPINION, to be garbage?
so that you may have a taste of what you put out?
Quote from: nitinnun on September 08, 2008, 06:33:32 PM
madsen.
in this universe, anything can happen, at any time, for any reason.
especially regarding politicians, bankers, economics, deception, corruption, and limitless insane greed.
it is extremely foolish, to label anything in the universe, as "nonsense".
because if you are right, than your opinion was merely in agreement with how the universe rolled its dice.
and if you are wrong, than you are driving your car while blindfolded.
I disagree. If you are right much more often than you are wrong, then I would say that indicates you are in touch with reality. (I'm not claiming I'm always/often right about anything, by the way!) I will predict here that this UFO will not appear on or around October 14, and that the US will not declare bankruptcy at the end of September. We'll see what happens.
Now suppose over the next year, a number of other similar announcements concerning UFOs, catastrophic events, reptoids, etc are made, but nothing happens. Wouldn't you agree that the use of the word "nonsense" starts to look reasonable?
Quote from: nitimmum
maybe i should declare YOUR OPINION, to be garbage?
so that you may have a taste of what you put out?
I've already had a pretty good taste of that here (in other threads) ;)
Seriously, though, I don't mean to offend anyone---I'm sure all of us believe some things which turn out not to be true.
Howdy Y'all,
I know all this Galactic Federation and Space Alien stuff is pretty outlandish. We, on Earth, live in the 3rd density, one of the several divisions of the Physical Plane of Existence. There are higher densities (4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th) before the threshold of the Astral Plane of Existence. There are disadvantages to being stuck on the lowest layer of the Physical Plane. First of all you cannot look up, although the beings on the higher layers can look down. You cannot see the higher layers of the Physical Plane unless you have elevated your spirit to allow you to see the higher layers of the Physical Plane. The members of the Galactic Federation exist in the higher (4th through the 8th densities) layers of the Physical Planes. They simply are not visible to beings that exist on the 3rd density Physical Plane of Existence. So they can monitor the affairs of the 3rd density with impunity but we cannot see them. This is why they know so much about us and we know nothing about them.
Earth is the focus of the Galactic Federations efforts at the moment. We (apparently) are in a much worse situation than any other world in our galaxy at this point. This is why this intervention needs to happen here, and now. They have been evaluating us, and watching us for thousands of years, and waiting for us to make contact with them. They are limited in their contact protocol, they must be invited to interact with a world. This, in some part, has been the reason that life has become so dire here. This is why the situation on earth has become so bad. Evil forces do not require this invitation, and this is apparent by the situation that we are in. The bad (malevolent) aliens do everything in their power to appear as benevolent. They do not operate by any code of ethics or morals, and completely do as they please, for their own self interest and greed. The Galactic Federation had to wait for us to cry out and ask for help, which they have responded to. They are coming, and they are going to help.
There are many, many ships here, but they are going to present the most grand ship to us. This is not some sort of whim. They didn't just happen to swing by and notice that there were malevolent Reptilians dominating our political and religious structures. This is not a happenstance, or whimsical event. They have been planning this First Contact Mission for a long, long time. They may be more excited about this than I am (and I am just orgasmic over it) can you tell? This event and other coming events are the reason I wanted to incarnate here, at this time. They have been waiting for the invitation to interact with us. They have been waiting for the spiritual councils of Earth to give the OK to interact with us. These prerequisites have been satisfied and the mission has been approved. This initial contact and presentation of the flagship has been approved. Life for us is going to change considerably very soon...
Blessed Be...
Whatever the actual debt figures are, huge, is still huge, and its trend now obvious to more people, which a better thing, because it means fewer ignorant people.
Madsen, you made mention to Nitinun about "reality". please note that my mention of you both, is not a finger pointing exercise. When i pose the following for contemplation, it can be equally applicable to past and future tense; What is reality. what is truth. What is right, and what is wrong. I have my seeming version at any point in time, and each person brings their version of what is, what is not, what should be, and what should not be. How does one know that things are as they are believed to be true. We are handed down language and and models of reality as we journey through life. Be it parents, schools, social circles, business circles, communities, institutions, media, books, music, and perhaps there's more. We experience it as truth, and whatever percentage of it that it is, gets unquestioned, and runs in the background governing our experience of what is the truth.
How much of the data that passes through the senses over the course of ones life is questioned in regards to the perception of reality. But what actually is the truth. How do we know 100 percent, the bigger picture. leave out one or more detail, and it may completely distort or change the reality completely, than if it had been included. The media tells and shows us their model to imply and perpetuate a model of reality, which i believe has been a tool used by the few, to promote their interests.
If you want to do a Google search, look up Carol Rosin, and Steven Greer.
Steven Greer has set up an organization called the Disclosure Project. It aims to reveal to the public about Aliens and the technologies that have been suppressed for a really long time. He says there are some rogue elements in Government who have been channeling money into black projects. There are good people in there, but fear to stick their neck out or lead the way. It sounds like its up to the people to demand it. He has gathered witnesses in the military, and government about UFO sightings, and has set up several organizations for bringing the awareness to the public in relation to the suppressed technologies, and Aliens.
http://www.disclosureproject.org/about.htm
One of his witnesses is Carol Rosin, who is a consultant to the space industry. Apparently she was at a meeting in Fairchild Industries, where they were talking about Identified enemies. One of which was Hussein. They were saying that there was going to be a war in the Gulf. That was in 1977. Quite a few years before it actually happened. She was told by Wernher Von Braun a little before he passed away in 1977, that there were plans by a few people to create a space war industry, which apparently included a hoaxed Alien threat.
Whoever is in government can only follow and reflect that self self governance/ self empowerment of the people when it is applied in their individual life. If people govern themselves to fight, to give power away, to accept all that is fed without questioning for themselves, then what else can those in government do, than be governed by the few that do not have the interest of humanity at heart. Especially when the public buy into the fears, and the call to look at people as enemies. I truly believe most people are good and well meaning, even if driven by negative emotions such as fear or anger at times to destructive behaviour. They still have the goodness in them, but perhaps have not realized the overall picture of choosing the aggressive expenditure of energy to get things accomplished. It all starts within our individual patterns of thinking and beliefs. Why do you think Corporate companies spend so heavily on Marketing.
I believe it is a start to take personal responsibility and consciously govern ourselves independently of; man made/contrived structures; information; institutions and the "something other"; that has been given power to from the minds of people. I am not talking about any political system, but pointing to the nature of the human being as all powerful and far more powerful than the falsely propagated reality that has been woven into society to expend energy into friction, for the benefit of only a few people. Returning to the responsibility (response ability), to the source of power that is within ourselves, than seeing the responsibility, cause, and power from any other person, government, alien, or whatever.
I may sound contradicting, because several days ago i posted and was saying it looks very much like the aliens are behind this perpetration. Maybe they are, maybe they are not. I don't know. I have never really related to the Alien thing before. What i do know is that i recognized a few things out of the experience of saturating myself in The Allies of Humanity PDF.
- I was in the experience of fear, and pointing fingers at who was at fault. Not an empowering experience. I am not implying to do nothing.
- The most important thing i realized as a common thread to all of this, is the infiltration and propagation of Hatred/ push against / something to get rid off/ something to fight/ warring with another. Basically busying one's personal energy against something else, which seems like it negates any genuine value that the particular system or way may have had originally.
Expending a lot of energy changing something else, rather than turning to the efficiency of immense power that is of a different type to what has been generally propagated into the masses over time. When we understand our true nature, and exercise true power and governance, it goes beyond the current models of reality of "getting energy", and "Pushing", in order to effect something. It is returning ourselves to essence of who we really are as beings. This can go really deep, but in a sense when you return to the essence or nature or things, it becomes simple.
Quote from: z.monkey on September 08, 2008, 09:26:53 PM
Earth is the focus of the Galactic Federations efforts at the moment. We (apparently) are in a much worse situation than any other world in our galaxy at this point. This is why this intervention needs to happen here, and now. They have been evaluating us, and watching us for thousands of years, and waiting for us to make contact with them. They are limited in their contact protocol, they must be invited to interact with a world. This, in some part, has been the reason that life has become so dire here. This is why the situation on earth has become so bad. Evil forces do not require this invitation, and this is apparent by the situation that we are in. The bad (malevolent) aliens do everything in their power to appear as benevolent. They do not operate by any code of ethics or morals, and completely do as they please, for their own self interest and greed. The Galactic Federation had to wait for us to cry out and ask for help, which they have responded to. They are coming, and they are going to help.
There are many, many ships here, but they are going to present the most grand ship to us. This is not some sort of whim. They didn't just happen to swing by and notice that there were malevolent Reptilians dominating our political and religious structures. This is not a happenstance, or whimsical event. They have been planning this First Contact Mission for a long, long time. They may be more excited about this than I am (and I am just orgasmic over it) can you tell? This event and other coming events are the reason I wanted to incarnate here, at this time. They have been waiting for the invitation to interact with us. They have been waiting for the spiritual councils of Earth to give the OK to interact with us. These prerequisites have been satisfied and the mission has been approved. This initial contact and presentation of the flagship has been approved. Life for us is going to change considerably very soon...
Blessed Be...
Z Monkey
I still can't verify anything about the ship .....usually if I ask for verification I get something
ALthough the idea of the ship visiting feels right my focus has been totally on humanity and earth .
I don't assume we are alone in the universe . but the other life forms have not been a part of my path
I also see things in a different way .........a way that to me seems much less judgmental less full of conflict.
Are we really in a worse situation than anyone else in the universe ?
The only way I can explain my way of understanding what is going on is to try to compare physical life with a video game .
The higher realm are great and wonderful but experiencing certian parts of the higher relams implied that more kinds of experiences could be found. ...............so we created the physical realm ....... in effect Gods video game .
One of the things we did in the video game called human life on earth is we decided to see if we could play it blindfolded
What you may call the worst situation in the physical realm to me is the most interesting video game in the physical realm
Does anyone stop the video game and rush Mario to the hospital every time he hits his head on a brick ?
The video game is about breaking bricks to find what is within them .
From our perspective life can seem very cruel . in truth life is love itself ........ love is alive it is aware of what it is and all that it can be.
It was not God that put the cruelty into the video game. It was us ....the souls playing the game.
We wanted more challenge, more excitement , more drama
We took the game of human life on earth to a deeper level than has been done before.
We chose to create an ego strong enough that it was what we originally see when we look within for self.
This huge ego ( sense of self ) in effect blocks our view of God within . ( in the higher realms you are ALWAYS aware of God within )
I am going to state here that ego itself is not a bad thing . The concept of ego ( a sense of seperate self ) goes back a very long time . If it was not for ego there would only be one way for God to view himself ....... a separate sense of self allows God to experience himself from many different perspectives . If there was no ego at all .... there would only be God . No souls no angels , no physical.
We have taken the ego a step farther than has been tried in most other games . We have been exploring living almost completely cut off from our personal inner awareness of God for thousands of years .
It is my understanding that the game here was originally going to be ended by 2000
It was decided in the late 1990s that if we played things right we just might be able to return to remembering who we really are. If we can do this we will be playing the game until we figure out that it is all a game and WE are the ones that created it .
As far as the violence and pain here . God can't be hurt ....... your soul can't be hurt . The only part of you that can be hurt is the part of you that incarnated here to play the game.
You can only be hurt here to the degree that you choose to see yourself as separate. If you could see your WHOLE self from here, you could play the game perfectly with no fear , pain or problems.
In my opinion the thing to try to do with this game is to try to live more and more from higher self rather than just physical self .
In other words to live remembering that at God is the very center of who ALL of us are .
By remembering consistently we move up into the next level or density
Now ....... from my perspective ....... the ship visiting is like combining 2 video games as you play them . ....not impossible but unusual.
gary
http://www.exopoliticsradio.com/9-6-08.html
nanoo nanoo !!!
This has come up on google news,www.ufodigest.com... or just read it below!
Sighting: Will it Force Disclosure to Occur?
by Stephane Wuttunee
Posted: 14:30 September 8, 2008
Blossom Goodchild
Like wildfires in the Australian outback, rumors of an upcoming mass televised UFO sighting over American skies are taking the Internet by storm. Blossom Goodchild, an Aussie actress and author, has the international Ufology community on its ear with channeled information concerning the eminent appearance of a massive extraterrestrial spacecraft for October 14th, 2008. Calling themselves â€ËÅ"The Federation of Light’, these Beings from another world have stated to Goodchild that they intend not only to make themselves known, but also to remain more or less in place for a full 72 hour period, thereby providing the media with ample opportunity to once and for all capture on film evidence that will silence the skeptics and debunkers forever. The predicted rendezvous point? Alabama.
Whoa.
And here's the kicker; she isn't the only one making the prediction. Unbeknownst perhaps even to themselves, statements made by other individuals in the past corroborate her findings, one of these being immortalized on paper by Dannion Brinkley. In his latest book (entitled â€Ã...“Secrets of the Lightâ€Ã, and published in 2004) on page 222 Brinkley says:
â€Ã...“By the year 2008, the fact that we are not alone in the universe will be made undeniably clear to everyone on the planet. With millions of planets and billions of stars, I cannot fathom how we could ever thought in any other terms. However, for those who have doubted, the extraterrestrials will make themselves known. I believe they feel they have no choice but to show themselves as we verge on self-annihilation, genocide and toxic poisoning. The truth of our inter-galactic lineage will become common knowledge. If I am to believe the vision, the truth of our intergalactic lineage will cause humanity to take one wild ride.â€Ã,Â
A few things stand out in all this. For one, it is rather unusual for channels and mediums to give exact dates and places for events to occur - let alone the appearance of an alien spacecraft. Some leeway and margin of error is usually provided to allow for interpretation (and for people with less than honorable intentions, room to squiggle out from). Not in this case. Goodchild is adamant and steadfast on the date.
Another point to keep in mind is that from reading the materials on her web site (blossomgoodchild.com), Goodchild herself seems at odds with the information - almost as if she thinks herself unfit for the task of bringing this information to the world. This again, is quite unusual for channels and mediums. If anything, such people rarely exhibit doubt or disbelief in their own predictions.
Naysayers will immediately dismiss Goodchild’s statements as ludicrous. However, if Goodchild was consciously perpetrating a hoax and simply wanted to make money with all this (after all, she is an author and actress), she is definitely going about it in the wrong manner. Any skilled marketing representative would tell her to do two things: 1) Be less specific of the date on which the craft is supposed to appear (actually, they would most likely tell her to put it off by at least nine months), and 2) Flood the market with products and services (books, videos, seminar appearances and lectures, etc) so the money can start pouring in. She's done neither. Actually, her prediction was made on August 22nd of this year, with â€Ã...“showtimeâ€Ã, being less than three months away - far too soon a timeline for the reaping of financial rewards or fame.
Speaking of which...
There is also the inevitable credibility factor to consider. If Goodchild proves to be wrong with this information, it is obvious that whoever enjoyed reading her materials before will begin to shun and avoid her in the future (much like our beloved and elusive Bigfoot hunters from Georgia). So on a personal level, quite a bit is at stake for Goodchild. And she would know this.
To stir the waters even further, consider that the Canadian Prime Minister Mr. Stephen Harper in the last week has called for surprise federal elections to occur on (you guessed it) â€Ã,¦ October 14th, 2008. According to Mr. Alfred Webre from Exopolitics.com, world officials are taking the announcement of the arrival of an extraterrestrial spacecraft in our skies seriously, and plans may already be underway to pull public focus away from such a seminal event and place it on more domestic and political issues instead. In this case, the controversy generated by surprise federal elections would tie up Canadian airwaves quite nicely. If extraterrestrials wish for their presence to be known to the world on that day, they would need to account for this type of potential interference, along with one million other variables.
Of course, being highly evolved Beings, they (hopefully) would.
In any case, the heat on the forums is palpable. YouTube videos on Goodchild’s predictions are everywhere. And as one forum member on Unexplained_Mysteries remarked, the date itself is unique because October 14th 2008 translates to 10-14-2008, which becomes (if you subtract each number from the next) â€Ã,¦minus 2012. Coincidence? Perhaps.
Even if Blossom turns out to be wrong and nothing occurs on or around October 14th this year, it is clear by humanity's current state of affairs that something of this nature needs to occur anyhow - and sooner rather than later. Full on contact and (to a degree) interference within human affairs cannot occur prior to a series of events such as these that will undeniably make the entire world acknowledge once and for all that Extraterrestrials are real. Whomever is watching over us needs to make themselves known, and any medium is viable, whether they are electronic, or human.
I say Bring it on, Baby!
I guess time will tell.
Howdy Y'all,
JohnyB, I posted the disclosure project document last week. I have noticed that people usually organize against something, rather that organizing for something.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item123
Resonanceman, well no for some of us life is great, like madsen said above, we have plenty of food and water, I live in a brick house, have 2 nice cars, and have all the building materials I need to build anything I want. But this isn't the case for everyone on this planet. But our (you and me) physical condition is not what I am talking about. We are entitled to fair governance free from evils influence. I watch them pour billions of dollars into football stadiums while there are people living on the street starving. Does that seem right? I watch them build up military machines that over the long haul cost an infinite amount of money, yet there are entire countries in Africa that are dying from starvation. I watch our government develop virulogical warfare agents to effect population control instead of feeding and housing these people. Is that the most evil thing you have ever heard of? The people that are getting the raw deal don't have access to this forum, they don't have computers, or the internet. They are the dross, cast aside by society. They way we treat these people determines how we are judged as a society. How do we stop it? We change the course of government. We take those resources that are being funneled into the frivolous and insidious projects and help the people in the lowest areas of society first. We get them fed, and housed, and educated, and make them contributing members of society first. Then we can concentrate on the bigger picture. Man needs to take care of his less fortunate brothers first. Then we can talk about how well off we are.
While I agree that the physical plane is "God's video game" it is reality for most of humanity. They cannot see past the illusion of physical matter. There are certain advantages to living in the dense universe. We learn much faster in a heavy density. Consequences are immediate and we learn life's lessons faster that way. But the video game has taken on a life of its own and has gotten out of control. In effect the Galactic Federation showing up is God pressing the reset button on the game console and we can have a fresh start, which in effect deletes the "out of control" players and levels the playing field for all of us "normal" players. Plus you also have the ascension. Earth herself is ready to move on from the 3rd density, and when she ascends we have no choice but to go with her. The Galactic Federation knows this and that the conditions on the Earth will be amplified when the ascension happens. We and they know that the Earth, and all on the Earth, need to be in a joyous state when this happens. This would have the effect of intensifying this joyous state of being. If we were to ascend now, with the current state of affairs on the physical place, it would literally be hell on Earth. I don't want that reality. Sure we need challenges, but we don't need war. There are plenty of technical and societal challenges to keep us busy without the problems caused by evil men in government running around the planet starting wars for fun and profit.
Blessed Be...
Howdy Shooter001,
Here is another affirmation from the "Allies of Earth" document, albeit less direct I believe that they are referring to the Galactic Federation Lightship.
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 09, 2008, 07:11:15 AM
Howdy Y'all,
Resonanceman, well no for some of us life is great, like madsen said above, we have plenty of food and water, I live in a brick house, have 2 nice cars, and have all the building materials I need to build anything I want.
Z Monkey
Yes life is great :) but unfortunantly I am not in the have it all group .
I am currently unemployed and my unemployment benifits are running out .
All of my being is telling me to follow my passions.
My passions are in finding a clean cheap energy to help get the world out of this mess we have created .
I have NO training that would allow me find a job even remotely related to developing a new energy source .
I have dozens of things I want to build and test but no money for any of them.
I am not complaining, I started this reply with " yes life is great " because that is my primary feeling .
My lack of money at this time is not really a problem , it is just how I am playing the video game.
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But this isn't the case for everyone on this planet. But our (you and me) physical condition is not what I am talking about. We are entitled to fair governance free from evils influence. I watch them pour billions of dollars into football stadiums while there are people living on the street starving. Does that seem right? I watch them build up military machines that over the long haul cost an infinite amount of money, yet there are entire countries in Africa that are dying from starvation. I watch our government develop virulogical warfare agents to effect population control instead of feeding and housing these people. Is that the most evil thing you have ever heard of? The people that are getting the raw deal don't have access to this forum, they don't have computers, or the internet. They are the dross, cast aside by society. They way we treat these people determines how we are judged as a society. How do we stop it? We change the course of government. We take those resources that are being funneled into the frivolous and insidious projects and help the people in the lowest areas of society first. We get them fed, and housed, and educated, and make them contributing members of society first. Then we can concentrate on the bigger picture. Man needs to take care of his less fortunate brothers first. Then we can talk about how well off we are.
I agree with you these things need to be changed .
But it is not possible for us to change them from the physical.
Our political " leaders " have been hiding most of their spending with code names and earmarks for a very long time . How do you stop what you can't find ?
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While I agree that the physical plane is "God's video game" it is reality for most of humanity. They cannot see past the illusion of physical matter. There are certain advantages to living in the dense universe. We learn much faster in a heavy density. Consequences are immediate and we learn life's lessons faster that way. But the video game has taken on a life of its own and has gotten out of control. In effect the Galactic Federation showing up is God pressing the reset button on the game console and we can have a fresh start, which in effect deletes the "out of control" players and levels the playing field for all of us "normal" players. Plus you also have the ascension. Earth herself is ready to move on from the 3rd density, and when she ascends we have no choice but to go with her. The Galactic Federation knows this and that the conditions on the Earth will be amplified when the ascension happens. We and they know that the Earth, and all on the Earth, need to be in a joyous state when this happens. This would have the effect of intensifying this joyous state of being. If we were to ascend now, with the current state of affairs on the physical place, it would literally be hell on Earth. I don't want that reality. Sure we need challenges, but we don't need war. There are plenty of technical and societal challenges to keep us busy without the problems caused by evil men in government running around the planet starting wars for fun and profit.
Blessed Be...
It seems to me that we differ on the size and scope of this video game .
In my opinion if the reset button is pushed ....... then ascension is instant .........humanity instantly looses physical form .
Ascension as you seem to be talking about is one possible way to " win " the game .
A major part of the game is duality . Rich against poor . religion against religion .
Duality can also be the answer .
This ship visiting may be a key to this.
The duality I am talking about in relation to the ship will be about what we feel about the ship
We will ether feel fearful about it . or we will be grateful that they have arrived.
This duality will become very clear for all to see when the shop arrives .
The people that react in fear , they will be very aware that there is nothing that they can do to stop the ship ..... there is nowhere to hide .
The people that are more spiritually aware will be walking around saying things like don't be silly , nothing is going to happen .
For those that are spiritually aware the " proof " that the shop comes in peace will be everywhere. but mostly it will be in their hearts .
The ship will bring with it a feeling of love that is much greater than most of us are used to .
Anyone that has tried consciously to bring more love into the world will recognise this love and respond to it .
For these people the days the ship is here will be a high point in their lives .
Not everyone wil be able to recognize the love coming from the ship . Those that have spent their lives seeking power over others will sense the love but not recognize it .
They will feel only what they understand .
As you sow so shall you reap .
The people that are embracing darkness and struggling for power over others will have a very bad time while the ship is here. They will feel terror in proportion to how dark they have become.
Duality is good . The difference in attitude about the visit will be very evident . When the ship leaves and the fears of our " leaders " go away they will be left with something to think about.
After the ship leaves our leaders will be left with one great truth . Life is not about what they thought it is about. (money and power )
When they realize this. Then they can start fixing some of the problems that they have created in our governments .
gary
HI Z.monkey
I have noticed out of all these channels 2 stand out deniying the october 14th event. They are Patrick Bellringere from fourwinds10.com and nancy from zetatalk.com. Of these 2 channels I have always been suspicious as zetatalk have made predictions in the past and got them wrong, like nibiru arriving in 2003. Nancy also channels messages which seem to show an ego and they look down on us. Patrick bellringer I have found his channeled personalities to be quite cold and the opposite of what you would expect from an evolved being.
so on a positive note here is more channeled info from Mike quinsey:
SaLuSa 05-September-2008
So much depends on the weeks ahead as many different events work themselves out. At first glance they appear to be separate, but they all connect with the plan of the Galactic Federation to bring an end to the last cabal’s influence. Their powerful control base within the financial empire has to be removed, and that requires an in depth investigation of their affairs. They have been involved in many recent covert events, and we see various revelations bringing the truth to your notice It can sometimes be painful, not least of all that it reveals how you have been let down by those within whom you placed your trust. The trickery and blatant deceit has been occurring for almost the last century, and you have been literally kept in the dark.
Even now as the presidential election proceeds you are witness to the manner in which the dark forces work, and they use fear tactics to try and ensure the outcome is in accordance with their plan. However, this election will not deliver the result they want, because of the growing influence of the people bringing the truth out into the open. The dark no longer have control over your destiny, and as the Light reaches far and wide it is bringing people together in pursuit of the truth. With our backing and ability to track all hidden activities, there is no place for the dark to hide from our allies or us.
Our measure of what is taking place tells us that in spite of the outer appearances all is proceeding well, and as weeks go by the net closes in on the dark forces. You must sense how near you are to seeing some amazing changes, and once they start the old guard will quickly be stripped of their power to control your lives. Look ahead and concentrate on all that is to bring harmony and peace to the world, and do not let isolated events distract your attention. There is so much that is good and wholesome that is appearing in the Light that is lifting you up. All credit goes to the myriad Lightworkers without whom we could not achieve our aims, without seeming to interfere with your evolution.
It is not by chance that many find themselves drawn to those groups who are working for the changes most desperately needed, and there are those who have yet to awaken to their tasks. Nothing happens by chance and the end times have been already written in the annals of Heaven, where the great Councils have met and decided the manner in which they will manifest. It may seem otherwise, but that is because you do not have an overall view of events. Our presence calls for much faith from you all until such time as we can meet openly. Only then can we fully reveal the great plan for your release from the dark forces, and the power structure that supports them. One of our principal approaches is the enlightenment of as many people as possible, as your power lies within your ability to perceive the truth. For too long you have lived the lies that have been thrust upon you, and must awaken from the great sleep that has kept you in the dark.
Without the changes that will inevitably cause some disruption in your lives, you cannot move forward. However, it will not result in discomfort as we shall ensure that all your needs are catered for during such times. The size of any problem presents no difficulty for us, as we already know what is required for your ease and comfort. We have planned our arrival and subsequent changes for a very long time, and have our own experience in moving a civilisation forward and into a New Age. We cannot yet show ourselves to the full extent that we work in and around your Earth, but if you could see our activities you would be more than assured of our protection. We cannot fail in our service to you, and soon we shall be working together as One united in Love and Light.
Some of you are concerned about the decline of many species of animals that have been affected by environmental changes. We would assure you that in nature this is always happening when their habitat changes and no longer supports them. What is however of concern is the deliberate destruction on the planet such as deforestation, and such actions will cease immediately we arrive on Earth. Even so we would put your minds at rest by telling you that we have gene pools, and can re-establish any â€Ã...“missingâ€Ã, species if it is necessary. When your Earth was seeded all that was needed was brought from other planets, and if necessary genetically altered to suit your conditions.
When the restoration of your Earth is complete, its vibration will be much higher and all will exist in the perfection that met your eyes when you first settled upon it. There will be no insects or those plant varieties that present some harm to you. Nothing can exist except it be in complete harmony and balance, and beauty and peace shall reign. These are changes that shall be completed in readiness for Ascension, and that you shall experience in this period. Time would perhaps appear too short for such ambitious plans, but we can make sweeping changes quite quickly with our advanced knowledge and technologies. What can be created in an instant can also be removed just as easily. This also applies to Man’s own structures and alterations to Earth.
At different times in your history people understood far more than you do today, as how to work with nature and maintain harmony and balance. That understanding will feature in the changes we shall bring about, and anything that is out of balance will be removed. What shall remain will be pleasing to the eye in an array of colours that you have not yet seen on Earth. If you but knew what is about to happen and the extent to which it will lift you up, you would hardly concern yourselves about your day-to-day worries. They are soon to cease so we would ask you to take them in your stride and see that they will be short lived.
I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and have followed your evolution for a long time. Even when I have been elsewhere in the Universe I have had contact with your civilisation, and this has been possible because our life span is numbered in hundreds of years. This shall also be your experience as you will choose where and when you change the direction of your evolutionary path. Your destiny and experiences will be in your own hands; your freewill extends far beyond what you have experienced so far upon Earth. Let the energy of Love be the weapon that shall clear the darkness for all time.
Thank you SaLuSa.
Mike Quinsey.
Children on the streets of the world are left to starve while world leaders run around in insane contests like dinosaurs staking out a territory. Is it little wonder that these children can be exploited by the insane to do their bidding. It is better to be part of a team no matter what the game is then to be alone starving in the cold. Youth of America are forced to enlist by circumstance in the military to do the bidding of insane paranoid people who alienate themselves from their own humanity. Sending thousands to die because thousands died before is a never ending progression of acts against life.
My only concern at this point is why the wait. When the animals dropped a neuclear bomb on innocent thousands, or religious leaders sent off armies to die for their bullshit , why not then?
Ker-On 08-September-2008
The intent of people to change the direction of their lives is altering the mass consciousness to such a degree, that it can now be seen as having a noticeable effect. The most important factor is the awakening that is helping others, and adding power to your resolve to find ways of bringing changes about. Not everyone understands what is happening around them, but they have felt the different energies that are building up. It comes to them in a sense of excitement knowing that something is stirring upon Earth.
Certainly the physical changes are now more noticeable, but as ever we are fully monitoring all that are occurring with a view to keeping damage to a minimum. We cannot prevent changes that are essential to the necessary cleansing, and it is part of Man’s experience to be present and witness to them. You need to understand how in the past you have brought about changes, through your presence upon Earth and the actions you have taken. This is not solely with reference to those that are physical, as on a mental level you have also introduced negative energies that have affected your vibration. For our part we help establish new energies upon Earth, and have many allies whose task is to anchor and stabilise them. The challenge for us is well within our capabilities, but not helped by your dark forces that are ever introducing the lower energies through their actions. On balance we are winning this battle, and the prime reason relates to energies coming from your Sun and outside of your solar system.
You have to remember that everything is comprised of energy, and every individual soul is feeling what is taking place. Some of you are confused and feel uneasy as a result of the way it is changing your level of consciousness, and resistance to it can result in adverse reactions. There is a point that will arrive when if you have not been able to assimilate the new energies into Self, you will find it impossible to remain on Earth. We tell you this not to frighten you; as such a development is quite natural and will only become a real factor shortly before the end-time. Since the changes are bringing about Ascension, clearly there will be those who by choice elect to stay in this dimension.
It is natural to wonder why you are on Earth and about the purpose of life. Those who have not chosen to be uplifted have as it were stopped in mid-stream, and to release them from their confusion means continuing their experiences within conditions that make them feel comfortable. Wherever you find yourself experience is still what you seek, and there is a compulsive drive towards obtaining knowledge about everything within the great Cosmos. After Ascension you will be fully awakened, and there will no mysteries connected with your existence or purpose of life. With your consciousness fully opened you will become godlike in your powers, and join all other ascended Beings. No more shall you be at the mercy of the dark powers, as they cannot enter the higher dimensions with their lower vibrations.
At present you are in a very fluid situation that holds many opportunities for powerful changes, and they cannot be held back much longer. However, we ask you to be prudent and on your guard, against being pulled into the fear based arguments arising from your presidential election. Just know that whatever the outcome, it will be exactly as needed to further the cause of the Light. You cannot always see the underlying reasons for what occurs, but be assured that we can also pull a few strings through our allies. We are continually working towards abundance and it has sufficiently advanced to be announced. As ever there has to be the â€Ã...“right timeâ€Ã, for it, and after all of this time we do not intend to force it through. Something worthwhile is worth waiting for as it has been a long, long time, since we came with our mission to help you prepare for Ascension.
You have still to go through unsettled times, but that is simply the result of the changes that are happening before your very eyes. The calamities that befall you will quickly be cleared once we can start to openly reach out to you. Therefore take them into your stride knowing that they will be short lived, and you will be more than compensated for all of the troubles you have endured. The legions of dark forces are soon to be removed from their positions of power, and a new regime will reflect the Light and Love that is descending upon Earth. Justice and freedom are around the corner, just waiting to return to you your constitutional rights. Such changes will travel worldwide and all of your civilisation will eventually benefit.
The truth is that very few governments have the answer or ability to deal with your present worldly problems. They muddle through governance in the old ways that do not reflect the new age, that is pressing hard to overcome the adversity and manmade problems that are holding you back. Even with good will and intent, your institutions have little idea as to how to move out of what is soon to be an impasse. The size of the problem grows day by day, and the old structures crumble under the weight of them. The answers lie with us and the divine plan for your release from the thraldom and control of the dark forces. Time passes faster than ever, and we approach that magical date when we will be allowed to take a big hand in your destiny. It was never intended that you would be indefinitely subjected to your present conditions, and we are excited at the prospect of bringing an end to this cycle of duality.
No matter what rhetoric passes between different countries that confront each other, we give an absolute assurance that there will not be another nuclear war. It will simply not be allowed, and soon the weapons of war shall be completely silenced forever. Many of the personnel in your armed forces are honest souls dedicated to freedom, and they shall quickly turn their attention to help making peace throughout the world. Many of those who have experienced death and destruction around them have had their fill, and learnt lessons that will enable them to change direction. All are welcome into the Light and Love that heals all scars and injuries through the experiences of life.
I am Ker-On from Venus, and represent the Galactic Federation who are ready to take you forward and lift you out of the darkness. We bring our love for you and greatly admire your tenacity and willpower to achieve victory.
Thank you Ker-On.
Mike Quinsey.
Howdy Y'all,
Shooter001, gotta love those Sirians (from Sirius). Whenever I read their works a am filled light and love, they are awesome.
Sparks, yes it is vilifying that the "powers that be" treat us like disposable people, bad karma for them.
Here is another book from the St. Germain Press called "Unveiled Mysteries" by Godfre' Ray King. It is wisdom of the Ascended Masters. They comprise the Spiritual Councils of Earth who work directly with the Galactic Federation.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item131
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 09, 2008, 11:38:44 AM
Howdy Y'all,
Shooter001, gotta love those Sirians (from Sirius). Whenever I read their works a am filled light and love, they are awesome.
Sparks, yes it is vilifying that the "powers that be" treat us like disposable people, bad karma for them.
Here is another book from the St. Germain Press called "Unveiled Mysteries" by Godfre' Ray King. It is wisdom of the Ascended Masters. They comprise the Spiritual Councils of Earth who work directly with the Galactic Federation.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item131
Blessed Be...
Z Monkey
Thanks for the link
I downloaded it and felt a very strong connection with it as soon as I red the dedication.
I have not been to Mt Shasta in this life . But I have very strong spiritual ties with those that work out of that mountain .
Reading this will be a priority for me today .
gary
Quote from: johnyb on September 09, 2008, 12:09:02 AM
Whatever the actual debt figures are, huge, is still huge, and its trend now obvious to more people, which a better thing, because it means fewer ignorant people.
Madsen, you made mention to Nitinun about "reality". please note that my mention of you both, is not a finger pointing exercise. When i pose the following for contemplation, it can be equally applicable to past and future tense; What is reality. what is truth. What is right, and what is wrong. I have my seeming version at any point in time, and each person brings their version of what is, what is not, what should be, and what should not be. How does one know that things are as they are believed to be true. We are handed down language and and models of reality as we journey through life. Be it parents, schools, social circles, business circles, communities, institutions, media, books, music, and perhaps there's more. We experience it as truth, and whatever percentage of it that it is, gets unquestioned, and runs in the background governing our experience of what is the truth.
How much of the data that passes through the senses over the course of ones life is questioned in regards to the perception of reality. But what actually is the truth. How do we know 100 percent, the bigger picture. leave out one or more detail, and it may completely distort or change the reality completely, than if it had been included. The media tells and shows us their model to imply and perpetuate a model of reality, which i believe has been a tool used by the few, to promote their interests.
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Hi johnyb,
Those are some difficult questions you ask, and tbh, they are probably all beyond my pay grade. ;) I don't think any of us will ever know, with absolute certainty, the Truth regarding any matter. For example, there's always the possibility that what I think I am experiencing right now is just some sort of Matrix illusion, and not "reality" as we normally think of it.
Nevertheless, we have to get on with life, and make decisions about what is real and what isn't. For example, I have a small amount of money invested in various places which would totally tank if the US actually did declare bankruptcy (whatever that would entail). So I have 3 weeks to decide if I should move that money to investments in China, buy gold, or move to a cave out in the desert. I'm sure there are others in the same situation on this board. Has anyone here taken action to avoid losing money at the end of the month?
The reason I haven't made any moves financially is that the bankruptcy story seems to be based on just rumors and perhaps "information" gained through channeling. Some people have noted that our national debt (in whatever way you define it) is quite high in the US. However, we are certainly not unique in that regard----it seems that by any measure of indebtedness, the US is not the worst off in the world, even among industrialized countries. So if I look at information sources that are checkable by me, I don't see any reason to be particularly worried about September 30. Of course it could be true that this channeled information is correct, but I don't have direct access to that. All I know is that anonymous people on the internet are saying it.
So, if the deadlines pass for this UFO and bankruptcy thing pass without incident (which is what I am boldly predicting ;) ), wouldn't you agree that it's reasonable to conclude that the Galactic Federation of Light announcement is not real (i.e., it's probably another internet hoax)? I don't want to get into a deep philosophical discussion about what is real and what isn't, as I'm not qualified to do that; I'm just trying to go by common sense here.
Howdy Madsen,
All forces work together for good. The Forces of Light do not want to cause harm. One way or another the US.Gov will continue. There is not going to be a run on banks. The reason this system works is people trusting in one another, and not simply trust in the dollar. My job is mainly a subcontractor for defense companies, so a large portion of my pay is dependent on government money.
Nomen luni, you are taking what I said out of context. I am not calling for Elitist NWO Globalist Government. What I said that we need is a Representation on a Global level to interact with visitors from space. There is a big difference especially in the light of having enlightened people compose this representation.
Resonanceman, "Unveiled Mysteries" has turned out to be a lot better than I thought. Commentary by St. Germain himself, excelente'...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: Nomen luni on September 09, 2008, 12:53:46 PM
When the shit hits the fan, be damned wary of the 'benevolent' hand that comes with the solution, be that government, alien, whatever. It's the oldest trick in the book to control the masses. Create a problem, wait for them to demand a solution, then give them a solution, that in actual fact is exactly what you wanted to hoik on them and not a solution at all. I can't believe z. Monkey is actually calling for one world government. He fell into the trap; hook, line and sinker.
There are none so blind as those that will not see.
Man thinks of himself as above the animals . But even animals can sense love when it is directed to them .
Only man can sink low enough to fail to recognize love when it is offered .
I have a few doubts about if the ship will arrive as predicted .
I don't have any doubts about the honesty and sincerity of those doing the predictions .
The love that the messages carry is much to great .
The love within the messages is greater than I have ever know a physical person to handle .
I have felt similar love from a group of non physical beings that have helped me from time to time for many years . You could call them my guardian angels ........but they are much more than that.
What could be the danger of a huge ship full of guardian angels?
How can I be sure that the name guardian angel is at least a relatively close fit?
I listen to the love . I feel the love in the messages singing
This might seem like a bunch of bull to you. but it is what I do . it is what my life is about.
My life is all about learning about the love .
Learning from the love.
When love whispers to me I listen .
What love has been whispering is that this thing with the ship is a good thing
Even if we never actually see a ship it is still a good thing.
gary
Quote from: z.monkey on September 09, 2008, 01:09:39 PM
Howdy Madsen,
All forces work together for good. The Forces of Light do not want to cause harm. One way or another the US.Gov will continue. There is not going to be a run on banks. The reason this system works is people trusting in one another, and not simply trust in the dollar. My job is mainly a subcontractor for defense companies, so a large portion of my pay is dependent on government money.
You work for defense companies??
Anyway, I guess I'm not sure what people mean when they say the US will declare bankruptcy. Perhaps we could get more details on what will actually happen. I'm recalling what happened in 1997 when Thailand's currency collapsed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_financial_crisis), causing a financial crisis throughout Asia. From what I can tell, the GDP of Thailand is currently approximately 1/23 the size of that of the US. A crisis in the US worthy of being called "bankruptcy" would cause a global meltdown, IMHO.
Quote from: madsen on September 09, 2008, 01:54:25 PM
You work for defense companies??
Howdy Madsen,
Hahahhahahaaahahahaaa, So, a lot of people do. The most effective way to bring about change is to work from within the system. I can't tell you exactly what I do, but I can tell you there are many, honest hardworking people who believe that the USA is the best chance of freedom we have. There are millions of troops, manufacturers, and government officials who spend the entirety of their lives making sure that the USA remains "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave". Without them we would most assuredly be under some sort of dictatorial ruler. Sure, I am critical of the government, it is called vigilance, or civilian oversight. I believe the USA is a good start, but I also believe we can do even better with a little bit of benevolent alien and enlightened spiritual intervention.
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 09, 2008, 02:16:05 PM
Howdy Madsen,
Hahahhahahaaahahahaaa, So, a lot of people do. The most effective way to bring about change is to work from within the system. I can't tell you exactly what I do, but I can tell you there are many, honest hardworking people who believe that the USA is the best chance of freedom we have. There are millions of troops, manufacturers, and government officials who spend the entirety of their lives making sure that the USA remains "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave". Without them we would most assuredly be under some sort of dictatorial ruler. Sure, I am critical of the government, it is called vigilance, or civilian oversight. I believe the USA is a good start, but I also believe we can do even better with a little bit of benevolent alien and enlightened spiritual intervention.
Blessed Be...
Hi z.monkey,
Just to be clear, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with working for defense companies. It just surprised me a bit! ;)
sorry, double post
Quote from: z.monkey on September 09, 2008, 02:16:05 PM
I also believe we can do even better with a little bit of benevolent alien and enlightened spiritual intervention.
Blessed Be...
This morning I had a series of meandering thoughts about this that came to a conclusion that startled me. Not because it was saying love your enemy...
Here is a snapshot of the thoughts.
The non benevolent aliens feed off our fear. probably anger and a few other less admirable thoughts we wish we could stop having.
The only way to stop a thought is to replace it with another one asap.
This week my son introduced me to the one laptop per child project. I read about it but the conclusion was that bill gates got himself into it and now instead of open source and basically free for 3rd world kids, it will support windows xp. gackkkk!!! I went to sleep seething and this continued all day yesterday.
Then today, this merged with the aliens thing along with the idea that the best thought to superimpose is COMPASSION, because the aliens don't want that they don't care about this feeling. I guess it doesn't juice them up enough. But it DOES juice up a human. We can feel compassion.
So, I was focusing on feeling compassion for the 3rd world kids who could have this wonderful gift of a free computer that teaches open source programming and is mesh based intra and internet. But I kept going to the next step that it might be taken away from them by this (BG) monster.
This morning I was trying to overlay compassion on those kids.
But in the meander, the thought struck me that maybe I should feel compassion for bill Gates.
What?
huh?
Then I got it. Yes, this guy is probably shredded. He is so taken over by his need for power, he must feel inside like the most powerless guy anywhere.
I can relate to being shredded by my own teachers etc. so I felt this amazing feeling of compassion for none other than bill gates. (I still find it hard to believe - but it can happen again in a moment)
So, why am I talking about this?
As Z monkey says:
Quotewith a little bit of benevolent alien and enlightened spiritual intervention
And by our addition of our own enlightened spiritual intervention by focusing on feeling compassion. (for anyone ) maybe we can really do it this time.
jeanna
Howdy Jeanna,
Glad I could help. You know Bill Gates is a bit of a Philanthropist now, so I guess your projected thought forms are working. There is a school in Dallas, Texas called Ursuline Academy which is the private girls school where Bill's wife went to high school. So far he has contributed $7 million to build a science, math, and technology center on the campus.
As for Winduhs XP, well you know, blech... Maybe you should use your projected thought forms to get them to go open source.
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 09, 2008, 04:57:31 PM
Maybe you should use your projected thought forms to get them to go open source.
Blessed Be...
Well now there is a novel idea !!!
;D ;D
jeanna
Howdy Y'all,
Here are some more documents.
"Secret Societies" documents Germany's efforts to build antigravity aircraft before and during World War II. The Vril and Thule Secret Societies use occult powers to obtain alien technology.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item132
"Mysteries of the Pyramid" documents the secret chamber underneath Giza where an extensive history of the human race was found. This history was recorded on metal disks which could be inserted into player in the secret chamber. This history goes back 1/2 million years and includes accounts of aliens interacting with humanity far in antiquity.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item133
"Orion Technology" is an overview of humanities efforts to reverse engineer alien technologies including but not limited to the Philadelphia Experiment, Project Rainbow, Project Montauk, Phoenix Project, Project Dreamscan, Project Moonscan, Project Mindwrecker, Reichian technology, Aliens and UFOs.
A lot of the attempts to use alien technologies backfired in a catastrophic way reminding man to not mess with technologies you don't completely understand.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item134
And, finally, in "The case for the UFOs" Morris Jessup explores the extensive evidence of alien visitation with a massive collection of reports.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item135
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all,
While I have studied works like this from the Great School of Natural Science I haven't read this one yet. It looks to be very good. "The Kybalion" is Hermetic Philosophy and Esoteric Teachings by the three initiates, enjoy...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item136
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all,
"Cosmic Conflict" is an exhaustive collection of reports which chronicle the actions of malevolent alien incursions and the valiant efforts of terrestrial militaries to keep them in check.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item137
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all,
I don't remember where exactly it was in this forum, but someone has criticized me about including God in the government. This excerpt is from the book "Revealed Mysteries" wherein Saint Germain is remarking that EVERY great civilization is founded on the highest spiritual principles and each civilization will reach their apex right before the people take pride in themselves and forget God, then the civilization falls into ruin...
Blessed Be...
Atmos 10-September-2008
There are going to be many changes before long, and they will direct your attention away from the pressures of everyday life. You have looked for signs that signal the emergence of a new consciousness, which will create a different path to your present one. That is now about to manifest and carried forward by your greater expectancy, aroused by opportunities for change that are coming in the next few months. These energies are raising people’s awareness, and their demands are more difficult for the opposition to ignore.
It is time to bid the old farewell, as a new paradigm must replace the present outworn one. It comes in the shape of the Ascension process that will come into its own very shortly, and lead you on to the Golden Age. So many souls have set their sights upon it, and know that it will permanently release them from the cycle of duality. As a result there are now two distinct groups and they are drifting further apart, and it is in both of their interests to be free to follow their own desires. Those of the Light see quite clearly what lies ahead, whereas those that have not yet awakened continue to accept their present environment with little vision of a new future.
Yet out of the experience of duality each and every soul will learn valuable lessons, which will hold good for their next cycle of experience. Wherever you go and whatever you choose for your continued growth, you will find other souls also pursuing the same pathways. Those who have gone before you will become your mentors and guides, and this is normal in the higher realms. All help each other as they walk in Unconditional Love for all life. It is the recognition of these levels of attainment that drives you ever onwards. It is your goal, yet it is only the beginning of a great adventure that will take you anywhere in the Cosmos.
Can you see that your true reality is far removed from your present existence, and that you are truly Beings of Light. You are returning to your true home amongst the stars, and you will immediately feel as though you have never left it. You will gain superconsciousness and powers of creation that you have never dreamt of before. Project your thoughts into your most realistic vision of what lies ahead and live it now as far as you can, and you will surely be well prepared for your quantum leap into the future. The more you do so the less you will rely on your present existence, which has been your home for millennia of time.
We are well advanced in our preparations, and work with our allies to remove the last obstacles that hold us back. You are admirably doing your part, and it is fast becoming a scenario where we need to speed matters up. We must trigger off the first of many changes that are essential to our coming. We know the weaknesses of the dark, and will combat their arrogance and defiance by playing upon them. A game it may be, but nevertheless one that is most serious in its implications for Humanity. As we have told you so often the changes must come as decreed, and we cannot tolerate any more interference. Our ways are not heavy handed, but at the same time we have unlimited power and authority to achieve our aims. We have tried to guide your leaders into the Light of reasoning, and acceptance that their dreams are now impossible to fulfil. However, they defiantly ignore our requests to move aside, and will therefore have to be removed by whatever legal means we have at our disposal. Any other method may cause us to be seen in a different light, and it is so important that there is nothing untoward in our actions.
The Galactic Federation could at a stroke achieve its aim but we have to win your confidence and trust, and show that we are of Love and Light. It is not for us to flex our muscles and use force, but we do have the means to repel every weapon that your world can use against us. Our way is to defend ourselves without using aggression, as we come to you as a Universal Peace Force. We have no intention of being drawn into one of your battles, and we shall achieve victory in a way that you will see as a peaceful approach. That time draws ever nearer, and the deadline is rapidly approaching. You are in a period where out of the confusion shall come definite signs of what is to be, and gradually it will manifest as desired by us.
You yearn to be rid of the oppressive rule that is normal with most governments of the world. In a relatively short time you have moved beyond their agendas, and seek what is rightly yours. You are sovereign Beings entitled to your freedom, and expect your leaders to acknowledge it by implementing adequate laws to protect them. Instead under the guise of different pretexts, they continue to take away your rights and have little regard for the sanctity of life. Our coming will answer your pleas and restore your rights, and move you into a new era of peace and prosperity. Mother Earth will also be released from her responsibilities towards you, as new ways of living will no longer necessitate using up her resources. Major changes will quickly take place and your way of life will benefit immediately. The release of the financial pressures upon you will free you up to follow your own desires. Man was always meant to express his talents and skills for the benefit of everyone else.
Your society faces massive changes, but all for your good and in preparation of Ascension. You cannot move into the new cycle whilst attached to the old energies, and we come to lift you into the Light. Much education and information will allow you to release from the old paradigm, as it now belongs to your past and no longer serves any purpose. Those who know very little of the plans for Humanity, will be given every opportunity to grow in awareness of the truth. It will then be up to you to choose whether to move on, or stay in your present dimension.
I am Atmos from Sirius, and you will be pleasantly surprised to find that we are almost identical to you in appearance. You will be delighted to be in our presence, as our energy carries so much Love and Light that it will lift you up. That is not meant to be boastful but we are ascended Light Beings, and stand where you will soon join us as our equals. Life is all about your ability to Love all other life forms, by seeing the Light within them and their link to the Source.
Thank you Atmos.
Mike Quinsey.
So, are you like from Sirius itself, or from an earthlike planet orbiting Sirius, or somewhere in Sirius's vicinity, or what? Since you resemble us in appearance, do you also have similar requirements as to life support? I mean, do you need air, water, food, sex, stuff like that. And are you still on schedule for the 14th of October? Because I've got some things to take care of before you arrive, so I'd appreciate a firm schedule. I mean, we've got plans too, you know.
Quote from: TinselKoala on September 10, 2008, 12:27:50 PM
So, are you like from Sirius itself, or from an earthlike planet orbiting Sirius, or somewhere in Sirius's vicinity, or what? Since you resemble us in appearance, do you also have similar requirements as to life support? I mean, do you need air, water, food, , stuff like that. And are you still on schedule for the 14th of October? Because I've got some things to take care of before you arrive, so I'd appreciate a firm schedule. I mean, we've got plans too, you know.
lol the post above was channeled by Mike Quinsey and not myself, I have just copied and posted his message for people to read.
Damnit, there I was finally getting to grips with the pdf's that z.monkey had already posted, only to find he posts another bunch of 'required reading' - more homework! :D
btw, got about half way through "Allies Of Humanity" last night and first impressions are that this is the kind of stuff I'd fully expect to see coming off the Illuminati-press - it just doesn't 'ring true'! I was expecting a kind of "horror story" based on a few reactions here, but so far it has barely evoked any emotion whatsoever - hopefully it gets 'scarier' towards the end. :) One thing that I found quite annoying is the way that statements are often repeated verbatim, one right after the other, brainwashing-style - what is all that about!
One other observation, most 'past' channelled messages which purported to be from the Galactic Federation have bluntly stated that a nuclear war is inevitable, but the channeled message from Venus just posted, claims to represent the same organistation, but says that a nuclear war definitely won't happen! - this contradiction is not a 'minor' disagreement, like involving what the exact size of the ship will be.....
Howdy Sprocket,
Sorry, Inquiring minds want to know... A good friend of mine was suspicious about the AoH document as well. I have heard from the Christ Sananda (Jesus), Christ Michael, and the Sirian (from Sirius) channels that the nukes are disabled by the Galactic Federation so the Dark Cabal cannot wreak anymore havoc. I am really enjoying the "Unveiled Mysteries" book. Can't wait to put this one into practice...
BLessed Be...
Contradictions in channelings are to be expected, as far as I understand it. First, the information is often coming from outside of earth, so they can only see how much weight certain tendencies have, and pick the top ones as predictions. It is always a guess, because not all information is available outside of earth and because today most situations are volatile (again, very close to balance so that only a little bit changes a lot). Second, it also depends in which "group" you are. There are currently 3 major groups (and many minor ones): roughly about 2/3 consciously or subconsciously choose war and destruction, less than 1/3 choose to stay with the current earth (who moves to 4th and 5th density) and come into the Golden Age, and a very small part (several millions) that also move to higher densities (or greater awareness) but elsewhere. The first group is transferring (die and [re-]incarnate) to other earth-like planets because they wouldn't be able to stay here (because this earth changes and wouldn't provide usable raw material for their bodies anymore). They won't necessarily "notice a difference" though, just the same old struggles, battles, wars and distractions as usual. Third, it seems time moves differently for different observers. They don't seem to base years on the same rotations as we do. Also, we assume that time moves always at the same speed ("linear"), which does not seem to be the case (or the speeds are also different depending on the observing perspective/angle).
So if they make predictions according to the biggest groups (or possibly just the group they are also in, if they don't have enough awareness to be outside of these "groups") and the most likely potential (extrapolated from past and current events), it would probably mean some kind of war. If they assume the group that stays with earth as she evolves, that would mostly mean peace. And of course, there are many other possible scenarios.
You have to kind of develop a "feeling" for whose channels are resonating with you. There are some guidelines on the web (for example, look up Guidelines for Discernment). Or you could simply skim or partially read channelings and try to get a feel for it. But be warned that you should have some grounding (at least take some deep breaths every now and then, maybe do some [slow] physical exercise or go into the water, etc.). A place where you can find lots of channelings is this group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/justchannelings/). Use discernment!
Quote from: orbs on September 10, 2008, 04:03:09 PM
Contradictions in channelings are to be expected, as far as I understand it. First, the information is often coming from outside of earth, so they can only see how much weight certain tendencies have, and pick the top ones as predictions. It is always a guess, because not all information is available outside of earth and because today most situations are volatile (again, very close to balance so that only a little bit changes a lot). Second, it also depends in which "group" you are. There are currently 3 major groups (and many minor ones): roughly about 2/3 consciously or subconsciously choose war and destruction, less than 1/3 choose to stay with the current earth (who moves to 4th and 5th density) and come into the Golden Age, and a very small part (several millions) that also move to higher densities (or greater awareness) but elsewhere. The first group is transferring (die and [re-]incarnate) to other earth-like planets because they wouldn't be able to stay here (because this earth changes and wouldn't provide usable raw material for their bodies anymore). They won't necessarily "notice a difference" though, just the same old struggles, battles, wars and distractions as usual. Third, it seems time moves differently for different observers. They don't seem to base years on the same rotations as we do. Also, we assume that time moves always at the same speed ("linear"), which does not seem to be the case (or the speeds are also different depending on the observing perspective/angle).
So if they make predictions according to the biggest groups (or possibly just the group they are also in, if they don't have enough awareness to be outside of these "groups") and the most likely potential (extrapolated from past and current events), it would probably mean some kind of war. If they assume the group that stays with earth as she evolves, that would mostly mean peace. And of course, there are many other possible scenarios.
You have to kind of develop a "feeling" for whose channels are resonating with you. There are some guidelines on the web (for example, look up Guidelines for Discernment). Or you could simply skim or partially read channelings and try to get a feel for it. But be warned that you should have some grounding (at least take some deep breaths every now and then, maybe do some [slow] physical exercise or go into the water, etc.). A place where you can find lots of channelings is this group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/justchannelings/). Use discernment!
Orbs
I agree that there are some problems with the accuracy of channeling .
I would like to add my 2 cents worth on the subject .
As I see it the biggest problem with channeling is that we ( humans ) have been taught that only intellectual thought has any value.
The way to get the true message from a channeled message is by what has been called thinking from the heart .
Most people with a well developed intellect have no concept of thinking from the heart .
The ideal path of a channeled message is from the heart of the sender through the senders mind ( being put into words that fit from the senders perspective ) Then to the receivers mind ( the meaning of the words is now interpreted from the receivers viewpoint . )
The intended destination of the message is the heart of the receiver .
If the person receiving the message doesn't understand enough about thinking from the heart the message never makes it to its destination . It is taken only at face value . The meaning of the words as understood by the receiver is the only meaning that gets through .
I would suggest with any channeled message that you disregard it if it doesn't bring love peace or joy to your heart l. There are entitys in other realms that are able to send messages telepathically The messages from these entitys in the lower realms will tend to be about ego power and control .
The messages from beings in the higher realms are always based in love . so if a message isn't love it isn't from the higher realm or a being more advanced than we are.
In short if the message if the message doesn't bring you a feeling of peace love and joy . it is probably not for you.Or it is not from someone you can trust .......so just disregard it.
For those that put all their faith in intellect this will mean disregarding most if not all channeling.
gary
durring channeling:
the channeler translates non-linear information (gotten from the subconscious mind).
into linear information (that the conscious mind can understand).
channeling is influenced by:
* the strength of the channelers subconscious mind.
* the channelers ability to interpret/understand what they "find".
* the channelers ability to translate/relate what they "find", to other people.
* the channelers personal bias.
* additional knowledge, that allows the channeler to understand the finer details, of what they "find".
* the ability of the "channelers audience", to understand what the channeler tells them!
(the channelers audience, must use all of the above, to understand what the channeler says).
on top of that, the channeler might be describing a PROBABILITY.
yet probabilities, are not abolute. and are ALWAYS subject to change.
especially change, due to someones choices/actions.
for example, the US could have a 100% PROBABILITY, of going to war with korea.
but then, somebody somewhere takes an action.
this action changes the probability of a korean war, from 100% to 5%.
when the channeler gave him 100% probability on monday, the channeler was right.
because on monday, the probability for war, really was 100%.
then this anonymous person took this action on tuesday.
and the probability instantly dropped from 100% to 5%.
some naysayer complains that the channeler was "wrong!".
because the channelers prediction didn't come true!
but it is the naysayer who is at fault.
because the naysayer does not understand or respect, the limitations of channeling and probability.
the bottom line, is that channelers are more accurate on generalities, than they are on specifics.
so if dozzens of channelers are giving the same generality, than that generality is likely true.
but true or not, may still change.
as soon as some jackhole somewhere takes an action, that changes everything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xonF16P1BDE&feature=related
Howdy Y'all,
New information. This time from Commander Ashtar Sheran of the Ashtar Command. The Ashtar Command is the Airborne Division of the Great White Brotherhood. This message says that they will be entering the atmosphere on 10/06/2008 to plant love crystals in the Earth. I'm not sure if this is the same mission as the public display. They may still reside in higher densities for this mission, so they may not be visible to us.
http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/new_beginnings.htm
http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_ashtar_command_ii.htm
The Great White Brotherhood is the highest spiritual brotherhood on Earth.
http://greatwhitebrotherhood.com/
http://www.ascendedmasters.ac/gwb.html
Blessed Be...
stranger and stranger?
Howdy RedRiderNo22,
Hahhahahahahaaahahaaa...
Don't abuse your illusion...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 11, 2008, 12:39:33 PM
The Great White Brotherhood is the highest spiritual brotherhood on Earth.
http://greatwhitebrotherhood.com/
http://www.ascendedmasters.ac/gwb.html
Blessed Be...
Z Monkey
Are you sure that these websites have any connection at all with the brotherhood?
None of the links work on the page that opens up .
I did check out a link on that page ( services ) found a link that worked . The page was about a session over the phone . $150. per hour .
The other link looked to me like just a place to sell a few books .
gary
Howdy Resonanceman,
Those links are something I could find quickly on a web search. I should have looked at the links closer before I posted them. The only places that I have found real information about the Great White Brotherhood is in books, and you want to contact them directly I believe that you have to go to the Astral Plane.
This one seems better.
http://www.theascendedmasters.com/gwb.html
"Unveiled Mysteries" has information about them. Seek and you shall find...
Blessed Be...
'Change their history and you can anihilate a whole nation without a weapon drawn.'
So real history speaks:
The Jews first king named David killed the last of the giants. Sons of an abomination of aliens and earthling. It is written so. Goliath had 4 brothers. They were taken care of later.
Don't need a channeller, psychic, or medium. This is Jewish history. You gonna tell over 6 trillion Jews they are wrong? Did you ever argue with one? God knew what he was doing when I said they are my chosen people. They have held on through good and bad to survive. The best soldier on the planet is the young female israeli. Stubbornness is a tool of success.
When David went up against Goliath, he picked up 5 stones. Faith then attitude equals take all.
http://www.hcna.us/columns/5stones.html
--giantkiller.
Old message sent by Ashtar Galactic Command in 1977, they hijacked a tv show.
Listen the message (real one: audio) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZSLzWjxEHA&feature=related
QuoteVrillon's message of peace
Full message
This is the voice of Vrillon, a representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. For many years you have seen us as lights in the skies. We speak to you now in peace and wisdom as we have done to your brothers and sisters all over this, your planet Earth.
We come to warn you of the destiny of your race and your world so that you may communicate to your fellow beings the course you must take to avoid the disaster which threatens your world, and the beings on our worlds around you. This is in order that you may share in the great awakening, as the planet passes into the New Age of Aquarius. The New Age can be a time of great peace and evolution for your race, but only if your rulers are made aware of the evil forces that can overshadow their judgments.
Be still now and listen, for your chance may not come again.
All your weapons of evil must be removed. The time for conflict is now past and the race of which you are a part may proceed to the higher stages of its evolution if you show yourselves worthy to do this. You have but a short time to learn to live together in peace and goodwill.
Small groups all over the planet are learning this, and exist to pass on the light of the dawning New Age to you all. You are free to accept or reject their teachings, but only those who learn to live in peace will pass to the higher realms of spiritual evolution.
Hear now the voice of Vrillon, a representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. Be aware also that there are many false prophets and guides operating in your world. They will suck your energy from you - the energy you call money and will put it to evil ends and give you worthless dross in return.
Your inner divine self will protect you from this. You must learn to be sensitive to the voice within that can tell you what is truth, and what is confusion, chaos and untruth. Learn to listen to the voice of truth which is within you and you will lead yourselves onto the path of evolution.
This is our message to our dear friends. We have watched you growing for many years as you too have watched our lights in your skies. You know now that we are here, and that there are more beings on and around your Earth than your scientists admit.
We are deeply concerned about you and your path towards the light and will do all we can to help you. Have no fear, seek only to know yourselves, and live in harmony with the ways of your planet Earth. We of the Ashtar Galactic Command thank you for your attention. We are now leaving the plane of your existence. May you be blessed by the supreme love and truth of the
Howdy TheOne,
I think that happened in London and caused a national defense alert. He he, they are just trying to help...
Blessed Be...
I really hope they come because now, at the office, if I win 4 coworkers will need to change their hair color in pink for few days. If I am wrong they will cut all my hair!
Lets hope we see them, I still want keep my hair you know ;)
the Ashtar Command would help us far more,
by instead planting blood clots,
in the brains of the troublemakers.
i think that one of the reasons for this vile exercise,
is to teach the space hippies,
the limits of goodness.
because there are limits,
to the wisdom,
of pure uncompromizing goodness!
because sometimes,
one spoon full of evil,
may prevent 24 gallons of needless misery!
earth is in this situation,
because the 5D dwellers,
refuse to choose one spoon full!
and try-try-try as the space hippies might to help us,
one spoon full,
is millions of times easier and quicker,
yet has the same result!
Howdy TheOne,
They are already here, you just can't see them because they are in a higher density. They have been here for milenia. Don't worry TheOne your hair is safe. Your naysayers hair is pink, I see it in my mind...
So has anyone seen the "powers that be" propaganda response. There is a remake of the movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still"? Basic synopsis, evil aliens come from space and start ripping up the Earth for their own purposes. This is absolutely their standard response to anything positive. Take the basic concept and make it destructive, and vilifying, then mass market it everywhere. So typical. Blech...
What all the naysayers don't see is that the Spiritual Brotherhoods of Earth have constructed this event and they invited the beings from other worlds to come here and make it a reality. This is Earth people, specifically Ascended Masters of Earth's Spiritual Councils are making this happen. The Galactic Federation and all the representative Alien species are here at their request. This is Earth's struggle to break out of the bondage of evil beings controlling us so that we may return to enlightened life full of love and light rather that war, death, and darkness. This will happen because the prophesied event is being orchestrated by Earth's own Spiritual Councils.
Blessed Be...
Howdy Giantkiller,
Somehow I missed your response up there. I didn't get a notification email either (WTF?). King David is an Ascended Master. He didn't need rocks to kill a Nephilim. His power came from Yud-heh-vah-heh (GOD) directly. I was acquainted with King David's latest incarnation. He was a powerful, inspiring man. He did GREAT things in the 20th century as well. I am familiar with both the Kabalion and the Kabbalah and I know that there is no "alien" intervention required. All that is required is that mankind on Earth want and need peace and love. Once mankinds hearts were open to the light of Yud-heh-vah-heh (GOD) then the dark powers on Earth no longer have any chance of holding power. Light and Love overwhelm any foe regardless of how much power they have.
Blessed Be Brother...
I believe in aliens and such, but this just sounds like a big load of crap. It sounds like it was just created by someone to see how much hype it could create and how many peoples hopes it would crush.
Alabama?
Gotta say, that "love crystal" thing induced an involuntary cringe on reading it... ::)
Anyway, another observation, these guys ellegedly exist in higher dimensions, well, having read the Planet Koldas book, I noted that these direct-via-radio contacts stated that it was possible for us 3'rd dimension beings to go and live in their higher dimension with no ill effects, (as many earth humans ellegedly had already done) whereas the Thiaooouba_Prophecy book makes it clear that it is impossible for lower-dimension beings to physically exist on higher dimensions (or at least the seventh dimension) for anything other than very short periods. Also, if the Koldas book has any validity, my presumption that higher level beings can observe everything in lower dimensions unobserved is incorrect, as 'they' have to travel here via spacecraft to do their snooping. They also apparently have no more idea about future events than we have...
Howdy Sprocket, Nihilanth,
Well there is a lot of information of there and not all of it jives. Different writers, different sources, look at the commonalities and use your heart to filter the pieces of truth from the hokum. I'm sure that there is disinformation in the mix there. The remake of the movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still", is malicious misinformation designed to generate fear. There are all sorts of "powers" all around us with different intents. You have to accept information for what it is, just information. You have to prove it to be true on your own. You can listen to your heart to make the judgment, you can test the information for validity if that is possible, or you can simply wait and see if the information pans out. My curiosity will not net me pass these things up. I have to explore them, then when something proves to be false at least I can warn people about it...
Blessed Be...
Recent channel from blossom goodchild.
In the days that lead up, so quickly now, to the event of which your world is recognizing, we have asked that you spread notions of PEACE and CALM. We ask too, that you allow the soul self to further understand ITSELF. This can only come about by the KNOWING of TRUTH inside. It is difficult to describe in your words, for as we have stated many times before , words are inadequate. So, again we stress to you of the â€Ã...“FEELINGâ€Ã,Â. This is how you will know of our coming. BY FEELING US. We our able to enter into your psyche in a way that you will connect with the TRUTH of the LOVE we bring. We implore you not to be despondent or mistrust. If you allow fear from words that have been suggested by others then this will interfere with your TRUTH.
HOLD STEADFASTLY TO YOUR TRUTH.FOR NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT AWAY FROM YOU, NO MATTER WHAT MAY HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED BY FALSEITIES FROM THOSE IN POWER.
YOU CANNOT HAVE YOUR TRUTH MISINTERPRETED.
YOUR TRUTH IS YOUR GUIDE TO YOUR TRUTH.
Do you see dear ones? â€Ã,¦. If you KNOW who you are then there is absolutely no possibility of being convinced otherwise. That is why we say for you to go within. That is why we have asked throughout many â€ËÅ"mediums’ for you to do of your meditation. This is how you get to KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
BELIEVE IN YOURSELF. You will know when we come that WE ARE WHO WE SAY WE ARE. There shall be no denial of this. Fear not of what is being said in your world ... that there may be those who suggest we are not.
YOU SHALL KNOW OF OUR TRUTH.
We do not disclose of many plans of these forthcoming days to you or anyone else. We have our decisions made on this. It is for the safety of those on your planet. Believe us when we say â€ËÅ"our safety is not an issue’. You will see why when we show ourselves. Dearest ones. How many ways can we say this? â€Ã,¦
BE UPLIFTED. SPREAD THE WORD OF JOY IN OUR VISITATION.
Amongst the chaos and confusion there shall be much laughter and unity. We bring this â€ËÅ"in’ with us. Your world has not yet known of a time like this. Its effect has been pondered upon over and over by councils in our Federation. For that is one thing we cannot be certain of â€Ã,¦
THE REACTION.
Yet, we have not as you know, just brought this about â€ËÅ"Willy nilly’.
Strange, another channeller used that word. Not one of the English languages fairer texts!
We have researched your behaviors in order to â€ËÅ"assume’ the reaction and this is why we feel it â€ËÅ"safe’ to go ahead with plans, and indeed as we have said â€ËÅ"bring it forward to this date in Oct 14th, for it was not to have taken place for another few of your years.So in those terms, one must extend a pat on the back to one another. It is only through the larger awakening of your brothers and sisters that we are able to do so. This is most pleasing to THE FEDERATION as a whole. As ONE. For indeed that is what we are. We have â€ËÅ"heard’ many speculate of which of us is to project ourselves into your energy field. Which squadron if you like. We HAVE to leave much of these questions as they are ... questions. We say to you in our TRUTH...
WE SHALL BE APPEARING TO YOU IN THE MOST APPROPRIATE FASHION. IN A MANNER THAT SHALL ALLOW THE BEST OUTCOME FOR ALL CONCERNED.
Blossom, you saw on your internet of a â€ËÅ"countdown’ machine, with days, hours, minutes seconds. We too, have such, but it is of a different kind.
We would ask for crystals owned by souls of your world to be cleansed and programmed. By this we mean to energize them with the knowing of our coming and to leave them outdoors. Again we leave mystery around the purpose of which we have just spoken.
Sorry, having a â€ËÅ"moment’. Was that me? What is all that about? Can you just confirm that with the crystals?
Most of you have no TRUE understanding of the power of crystals. Not in your human form. Outside of that form everything is very different.
There are some who know, very few. Most use them to the best of their knowledge and yet we say this is still in the minus on the scale. For their power is simply not understood. However, WE know of their power. Indeed we could not travel or exist (?) without it. By one doing this with their crystals it is for the benefit of the â€ËÅ"owner’ â€ËÅ"possessor’ as opposed to assisting us. To â€ËÅ"spruce’ them up will have a significant effect on the mainstream â€Ã,¦
Hard as I try, I can’t get the end of that sentence.
That’s because it is finished.
Doesn’t make sense to meâ€Ã,¦ but who am I?
You are who you are and we are in great respect for your perseverance and TRUST.
Thank you. God, I’m so emotional these days. Crying at the drop of a hat. What is this â€ËÅ"HAT’ thing? Others have mentioned hats too!! Probably nothing. My friends. So much is happening down here. Have you got a few hours each day you could spare me? No-one would have to know.
It is with much Love we reply to you â€Ã,¦ each moment of time is a precious gift that is offered. Use it wisely. Use it in the experience of Love for each and every moment is made of this.
Thank you. My whole being changed as I was writing that and I have gone all â€ËÅ"gooey’ and so relaxed. WOW! THANK YOU for this feeling. I feel if I stood up I would fall over.
And this is just the beginning of what we bring to all.
ONCE AGAIN WE SAY BE UPLIFTED.
And there is more to that than meets the eye. I can feel it. Again my thanks. I was a little downhearted yesterday (only a little, as I accepted â€ËÅ"what is’) when we couldn’t really get through’.
We must leave now. Sending heart felt joy.
I wonder if putting a charged crystal out is making a marker or invitation to visit which they can pick up on and read.
It's all true people, I have been documenting this since 1984 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlt4GQ45TXg
i am growing potassium alum crystal since 1998, and sometime i have been wondering if some ufo had scan my house and find 30 potassium alum pyramid in their natural form
recently i change my theory i think that aliens are scanning the internet as well
they may have some computer doing search on the net and get a picture of the humanity
all crystals are reflecting more Super Light (cosmic rays) than chaostic things, the supra conductivity in the crystal allow them to interact with the etheric field, including human aura and much more
when i look to the Galactic Federation asking us to program crystals to prepare their coming out, i could just resist to show you my creations, and i am i little bit sceptic, why they need us to help them with crystals ? it does not seem serious, that makes thing more complicated, it is not the normal way of celestial-alien visitor
at project camelot they talk about a fake alien invasion
http://projectcamelot.org/index.html
i still hope that alien and celest entity will help us, i prefer act as if it will not occur, then the 14-08-2008 i will be very please to see them in the sky, it will be the great party, the end of the nations would begin then
shall we wait to see, or analysing the vibrating level of the channel ?
i will sing that song to them
John Legend - "If You're Out There"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4go_rpRvYKA
that song is a new energy, love and hope , high vibrating level, very high
Jeeeeeeeeesus, you guys are into one wacky religion!
Thank God I'm an atheist! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hans von Lieven
Howdy Y'all,
Good Message, I always like to hear more from Blossom.
Hans, you have to think with your Mind (the Inner self) and not your Brain (the Outer self).
Shooter001, it is a marker, makes you a supporter.
Drannom, do you have any natural quartz crystal points? I think using a natural crystal is more effective than using a lab grown crystal.
Quote from: shooter001 on September 12, 2008, 06:44:09 PM
We would ask for crystals owned by souls of your world to be cleansed and programmed. By this we mean to energize them with the knowing of our coming and to leave them outdoors. Again we leave mystery around the purpose of which we have just spoken.
I worked with mineral magic for several years, still do intermittently. Crystals store mental information. You clear the crystal with running water. A natural source is best, but under the faucet works to. Hold the crystal under the running water for several minutes to completely clear it. Completely dry off the crystal. Your body has an emitter and a collector just like a magnet or a battery. Your right side is the emitter and your left side is the collector. When you program a crystal you hold it in your right hand. When you read a crystal you hold it in your left hand. Put yourself in a meditative state then pickup the crystal with your right hand. Think the thoughts you want to program the crystal with as clearly and powerfully as you can, then put the crystal down. When you move the crystal to another location only move it with your left hand so that you do not accidentally reprogram it. I would program the crystal with a message like "I welcome the Galactic Federation to Earth" or "Thanks be to GOD that the Galactic Federation has arrived" or simply "Galactic Federation" This will let them know that this crystal is for them.
Quote from: shooter001 on September 12, 2008, 06:44:09 PM
Most of you have no TRUE understanding of the power of crystals. Not in your human form. Outside of that form everything is very different.
There are some who know, very few. Most use them to the best of their knowledge and yet we say this is still in the minus on the scale. For their power is simply not understood. However, WE know of their power. Indeed we could not travel or exist (?) without it. By one doing this with their crystals it is for the benefit of the â€ËÅ"owner’ â€ËÅ"possessor’ as opposed to assisting us. To â€ËÅ"spruce’ them up will have a significant effect on the mainstream â€Ã,¦
Crystals also store emotions and well, for lack of a better term, macros. The mental information they store can be a sort of program for your mental self. By reading the crystal after they find it and reprogram it could run a sort of mental program which could have a wide variety of effects. I can speculate as to what this is, but rather than make assumptions I would rather test this on myself, then give you the information.
I have a lot of natural crystals and I don't mind using them for this purpose. I am actually quite excited that they would elect to interact with people in this way because it is the way of the American Indian, and also the way of people who use what is considered to be High Magick.
So, although it is very late here, I am going to clear and reprogram several crystals and leave them in my back yard tonight. I will be very excited to read them in the morning. It will be like Christmas Morning in September.
Blessed Be...
z.monkey
then you should also be familiar with the T*A*L*M*U*D if not may I suggest you start reading it
Professor
Quote from: z.monkey on September 11, 2008, 09:44:32 PM
Howdy Giantkiller,
Somehow I missed your response up there. I didn't get a notification email either (WTF?). King David is an Ascended Master. He didn't need rocks to kill a Nephilim. His power came from Yud-heh-vah-heh (GOD) directly. I was acquainted with King David's latest incarnation. He was a powerful, inspiring man. He did GREAT things in the 20th century as well. I am familiar with both the Kabalion and the Kabbalah and I know that there is no "alien" intervention required. All that is required is that mankind on Earth want and need peace and love. Once mankinds hearts were open to the light of Yud-heh-vah-heh (GOD) then the dark powers on Earth no longer have any chance of holding power. Light and Love overwhelm any foe regardless of how much power they have.
Blessed Be Brother...
Howdy Professor,
I have to admit that I am no expert in Judaism, and there are differences or divisions in the interpretations of Judaism. I feel that the further study of mans religions are not important at this point in history. The new information from the Galactic Federation is going to redefine all we know about spirituality and studying the past divisions of theory will be completely fruitless in the light of this new information. The information that I have about the latest incarnation of King David is from my own experience in light of the flood of new information coming to me. I also know, personally, the latest reincarnation of King Solomon. He is one of my best friends. While a mere few months ago I would have considered reading the Talmud, now I believe it is only a step backwards. The information I receive, and the rest of the world will receive in the next few months is going to significantly change the way we look at everything...
Blessed Be...
The remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still pisses me off, and after it comes out, I know that if I mention the move, people will think I'm talking about the remake.
I hear you Hans, I'm getting tired of hearing all of this religious crap too. I even filed a complaint recently on one of my college professors recently for being such an irritating bible thumper in class. I know we're reading Nathanial Hawthorne in class so I can accept hearing some of it, but how you get from there to the morals of stemcell research is just to big of a jump to accept.
If she mixed some of her annoying neocon crap in with some of this newage mumbo-jumbo, then it wouldn't bother me. I'd be to busy laughing.
a crystal is oxygen atoms, and silicon atoms.
did you know that 1/4 of the earths crust, is silicon?
and 59% of all rock matter, is oxygen?
did you know that each sand molecule, is technically a small crystal?
and that crystals network/communicate with each other, when placed close together?
so the earth itself, is made of countless crystals.
and all of these crystals, are networked together.
if you programmed a crystal to expect a flyover on october 14th,
than sat the crystal outside (GROUNDING THE CRYSTAL!)
than that crystal would slowly program all the crystals around it, it expect a flyover on october 14th.
those crystals would program more crystals. creating a wave of information, throughout the earth.
somehow, this information would find its way into the masses, who live on top of the earth.
so that when the flyover happens, the population would subconsciously be expecting it to happen.
by the way.
the oxygen atoms hold thoughts and feelings.
oxygen atoms also spin counter-clockwise.
the water ran over the crystal to clear it, contains by oxygen and hydrogen.
CW and CCW
Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 12, 2008, 09:38:42 PMThank God I'm an atheist! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hey, atheism is a belief system nonetheless, like science, religion or economy. Let's hope it's less evangelistic though... ;)
Quote from: z.monkey on September 12, 2008, 11:57:17 PM
Howdy Y'all,
Good Message, I always like to hear more from Blossom.
Hans, you have to think with your Mind (the Inner self) and not your Brain (the Outer self).
..
Z-monkey,
You have to learn how to think, instead of playing with your dick.
Hans von Lieven
QuoteDrannom, do you have any natural quartz crystal points? I think using a natural crystal is more effective than using a lab grown crystal.
i do not have any quartz crystals, there are wonderfull crystal quartz on the earth, some have been made by human, so it is for potassium alum crystals, potassium alum is a natural substance, there are plenty of potassium alum all over the planet cause alum is like salt (NaCl) , potassium alum is a consequence of biological life, each kind of crystal has it's own vibrating level depends of each atoms of the molecule, than crystal will re emit this vibrating level cause all crystal receive cosmic rays
I am the first one to cristallize perfect potassium alum pyramid, so it is just a cooperation to get them, nature growth them and human take care for let them growing, humans can participate to evolve minerals
all crystal are alive, like a vegetable they can react with their aura, the aura is the consequence of all electric move in the body of an human, a vegetable or a crystal
each kind of crystal then will reflect Super Light with is own vibrating level, producing etheric lights
crystals are alive not with biological means, but with a supra conductive aura, that aura interact with all things better, a crystal is a perfection space into the chaos
this is why my life got a sense, and i am gratefull
to have the gift of consciousness is enough to keep joyce, event if we are in a sort of chaos, with the evil in it !
Howdy Drannom,
Those are NICE Crystal pyramids. They certainly look better that my quartz point. If you feel they work the same well give them a try. I am fixing to retrieve my crystals from last night and see what they say. I already feel different, just woke up, gotta get coffee...
What is the white portion in the middle of the crystal? Is that the seed?
Blessed Be...
Ye earthling fools!!! WE have NEVER been in contacts with fools like tyourselves. We will punish you severly for talking nonsense and spreading lies. WE are watching you! In particulars monkeys and free shooters and similar liars. Your time is determined on this earth for your intentionla lies and mental disturbances your deffective brains are producing in the fabric of ether.
Get my drift?
Grand Master of Universal Laws and Guardian of Spirits (safely hidden in the depths of my cellar.)
Howdy Dr. Tesla, Nihilanth, and Hans,
So you would deny the existence of spirit, and of alien life and of GOD. This atheistic attitude is responsible for the downfall of civilizations. This ego-centric attitude leads to the reliance of man upon himself where he should be relying on GOD. And you people wonder why there are so many problems in the world today. Your pitiful brains struggle to find solutions that if you to let GOD give you a solution it would be effortless. I pity people like yourselves because you feel that you can solve the problems using your brains while there are ready made solutions that you could simply ask GOD for. You will be the ones that freak out when the Galactic Federation arrives, it will be beyond your brain's comprehension. You will panic and possibly seriously injure yourselves because of your emotional fear. There is still time for you to reach into your inner mind and understand what the love and light of GOD really is before the Galactic Federation arrives. Yes, GOD even loves you Hans...
Blessed Be intelligent but light deprived brothers...
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on September 13, 2008, 08:14:10 AM
Ye earthling fools!!! WE have NEVER been in contacts with fools like tyourselves. We will punish you severly for talking nonsense and spreading lies. WE are watching you! In particulars monkeys and free shooters and similar liars. Your time is determined on this earth for your intentionla lies and mental disturbances your deffective brains are producing in the fabric of ether.
Get my drift?
Grand Master of Universal Laws and Guardian of Spirits (safely hidden in the depths of my cellar.)
My first threat :) I must be touching a nerve here. Im going to go out and get my crystals today.
I'm a religious person and also a believer. I think many FE followers are since they have proven they have an open mind by seeking for FE. ET's can show their selves as long as they don't blast my head off it's all ok (I would probably beg them for that anti gravity device.)
If you want make this beautiful crystal, here the instruction of the creator!
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Cristallerie
He tell how to do it
Quote from: z.monkey on September 13, 2008, 08:35:29 AM
Howdy Dr. Tesla, Nihilanth, and Hans,
So you would deny the existence of spirit, and of alien life and of GOD. This atheistic attitude is responsible for the downfall of civilizations. This ego-centric attitude leads to the reliance of man upon himself where he should be relying on GOD. And you people wonder why there are so many problems in the world today. Your pitiful brains struggle to find solutions that if you to let GOD give you a solution it would be effortless. I pity people like yourselves because you feel that you can solve the problems using your brains while there are ready made solutions that you could simply ask GOD for. You will be the ones that freak out when the Galactic Federation arrives, it will be beyond your brain's comprehension. You will panic and possibly seriously injure yourselves because of your emotional fear. There is still time for you to reach into your inner mind and understand what the love and light of GOD really is before the Galactic Federation arrives. Yes, GOD even loves you Hans...
Blessed Be intelligent but light deprived brothers...
Another pitiful atheist here, z.monkey ;)
I just want to get some clarification---is this UFO definitely supposed to be visible to us unbelievers? I've got a sneaking suspicion that even if nothing appears, some will claim that the UFO was actually there anyway. Maybe some low-quality videos will even be put on youtube in which compression artifacts are claimed to be the ship. So will skeptics like me definitely be able to see the ship?
Well, I believe in God. But let me be clear, I'm talking about God of the Bible, the God of Abraham and Isaac, the God who sent His Son Jesus by virgin birth to be the Savior of all men by being sacrificed and then rising again to return to be with His Father. I don't believe in some 'god' from a Gene Roddenberry episode in league with reptile people.
Do I believe in aliens? I believe most anything is possible but that doesn't make me think it is very likely. I don't know of any beliefs that I have that say aliens are impossible. I would certainly be surprised if a space ship shows up next month. But, it still wouldn't shake my beliefs in God as The Creator. If it doesn't show up as promised, what does that do to your beliefs??
Do I believe in FE?? I HOPE for it. I don't believe it has ever been invented so far. I don't believe in MIBs and inventors who get too close disappearing, etc., etc. The reason I come to forums like this is in the HOPE of someone succeeding. I'm pretty sure I will never invent anything nor contribute in it's invention. I just don't have those sorts of skills. But I would certainly support someone who really does do it.
But, forget all that. I can't make you believe that you are wrong and you certainly won't make me believe I am. We will definitely know when we die or when Jesus returns. So let's just see what happens on the 14th of Oct. With all the channeling going on and all the movement of spirits and looking into crystals and positive energy, etc., etc., there can be no doubt it's going to happen. Right ??? ;)
I don't personally believe a forum like this should get into religious arguments and I won't mention my faith again here. I'm just responding to a question you put out there (even though it wasn't directed at me).....
Howdy Y'all,
Madsen, the ships (lots of them) are already here. They are in the higher densities right now. This is why we cannot see them. On 10/14/2008 one ship, the grandest ship, will lower itself into the 3rd density. It will be in clear view of all. They state they will move slowly in the atmosphere and that everyone will have a nice long look. You can make good pictures and high quality videos.
MBramble, My belief will remain rock steady regardless of future events. I am already in contact with them through my inner self. They do utilize what we call free energy. They have a greater understanding of the nature of the universe and would use different words to describe free energy. They will show you how to utilize it.
Broli, yes they utilize what we call anti-gravity. Again they use different words to describe that concept because of their greater understanding. And yes they will show you how to utilize this as well.
Shooter001, you must be getting close to the truth if the orthodoxy is starting to attack you...
A discussion about GOD and spirituality is pertinent in this forum because things of the nature of overunity are things of the higher self, the mind, the mental body. These are holy concepts. Physical men utilizing their GOD given minds to invent devices which alleviate suffering on the physical plane is definitely a fitting subject for this forum. The whole concept behind the Galactic Federation being here is to advance our technology so that we don't have to work so hard to live. The allows us more free time to understand inner selves and evolve spiritually...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 13, 2008, 11:08:36 AM
Howdy Y'all,
Madsen, the ships (lots of them) are already here. They are in the higher densities right now. This is why we cannot see them. On 10/14/2008 one ship, the grandest ship, will lower itself into the 3rd density. It will be in clear view of all. They state they will move slowly in the atmosphere and that everyone will have a nice long look. You can make good pictures and high quality videos.
Thanks. I hope Ike isn't causing you too much trouble.
QuoteWhat is the white portion in the middle of the crystal? Is that the seed?
hi Z_monkey
i do not need seed anymore even if it is easier with a big seed, i use a crystals generator, the crystal structure is memorize in a piece of glass, i have to build a crystal generator before using it
the white portion in the middle is an obelisc, it's begin with a flat top pyramid, while the pyramid is growing then the vortex propeller accelerate the cristallization on the top, then the potassium alum molecule cristallize at a very high speed, then those molecules become white by catching water in the obelisc itself
so there is a little bit of water in the white center !
white stripe happens if you are not moving the water, the crystal is symetric cause it is growing under a water vortex propeller
with no propeller then you can only get small transparent crystal, while the crystal is growing it produce heat ! so the propeller replace convection by water vortex
i have started a topic on potassium alum pyramid in this forum so i will link this from there, it is in the pyramid power section
@ The One
thank you, i am just the gardener of Mother Nature, in fact those pyramid could be grown from the first time a biological life had happen somewhere in this very big universe, when potassium alum was created the first time
i do what has been done before, like in Atlantis or ancient Egypt
Thot himself created emerald crystal directly from the ether
all is ether, all come from the Source (Central Sun) then those pyramids was in the plan of the creator of the universe, waiting someone to find them again and again in the infinite time line
Quote from: Drannom on September 13, 2008, 12:23:53 PM
hi Z_monkey
i do not need seed anymore even if it is easier with a big seed, i use a crystals generator, the crystal structure is memorize in a piece of glass, i have to build a crystal generator before using it
the white portion in the middle is an obelisc, it's begin with a flat top pyramid, while the pyramid is growing then the vortex propeller accelerate the cristallization on the top, then the potassium alum molecule cristallize at a very high speed, then those molecules become white by catching water in the obelisc itself
so there is a little bit of water in the white center !
white stripe happens if you are not moving the water, the crystal is symetric cause it is growing under a water vortex propeller
with no propeller then you can only get small transparent crystal, while the crystal is growing it produce heat ! so the propeller replace convection by water vortex
i have started a topic on potassium alum pyramid in this forum so i will link this from there, it is in the pyramid power section
@ The One
thank you, i am just the gardener of Mother Nature, in fact those pyramid could be grown from the first time a biological life had happen somewhere in this very big universe, when potassium alum was created the first time
i do what has been done before, like in Atlantis or ancient Egypt
Thot himself created emerald crystal directly from the ether
all is ether, all come from the Source (Central Sun) then those pyramids was in the plan of the creator of the universe, waiting someone to find them again and again in the infinite time line
Hi, I did not know you created this! Nice work anyway.
Can you tell me where you can buy this "Sel d'Alum" in QC? That will be appreciated thanks!
why are there so many 9 year olds in this forum?
don't they have some other outlet to vomit their all-consuming negativity through?
such as myspace?
What does Leedskalin's coral blocks and the pyramid's have in common.
Both are made of seafloor sediments. Every dissolved sodium chloride molecule forms an eletrical battery. Sea life uses this energy in their lives to form their "life form crystals". This highly polarized molecule is incorporated into the formation of calcium and other minerals used by these atomic sized creatures. The radio-frequency excitation of the nacl moleucles can elicit the formation of hydrogen gas. Infrared radio-frequency absorption by the water molecule is what moderates the temperature of the Earth. Perhaps radio-frequency excitation of limestone or coral should be studied as this would result in electrical wave patterns effected by the ionic memory left in the solids.
Looking at your photo I thought you were a person with reasonable intelligence... Just can't judge a Book by its Cover. Jung du tust mir leid!!
Professor
Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 12, 2008, 09:38:42 PM
Jeeeeeeeeesus, you guys are into one wacky religion!
Thank God I'm an atheist! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hans von Lieven
Hello Sparks
there is a coincidence here
QuoteBoth are made of seafloor sediments
in fact, potassiun alum is abondant in clay sediment !
life in the ocean produce some sediments, like plancton and dead fish etc
that is the ashes of the life, and the phoenix can come out as an alum pyramid
just a though
Howdy Drannom,
Is Super Light the same as GOD's Love (Light), a universal creative force which is the basic material that all matter and energy are made from? If this is true then you, me, and everyone is a conduit of Super Light. The ultimate source is the Central Sun of the Universe and to a lesser degree the Central Sun of each Galaxy, but each of can tap into this light, and the Great Central Source of the Universe can work through us. Essentially we become the tools of GOD...
So what do you think?
Blessed Be...
hi Z_monkey
exactly, you say it right !
Central sun give power to all black holes, all black holes emit Super Light, then Super Light come from everywhere around us, creating the gravity, and much more...
our solar sun is not nuclear sun, our sun retransmit the super light in normal light
all atoms and molecules consume a lot of energy from the Super Light
in the astral plane we can see the Central Sun, our soul go there sometimes, there is also places where all is white full of super light, much more white than any solar light, in celestial plane we can be in Super Light, embrace in the arms of the Super Light
illumination is someone retransmitting Super Light with the soul like a mirror of the holy spirit
our soul is a complex standing wave, only complex etheric waves !
look that topic and you'll understand much more
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5479.0;topicseen
read all the electrinium.pdf and go to the Super Light link
in the nothingless can only exist the holy spirit,
the all and the nothing somehow become alive in the great all-nothingless
consciousness is the answer of all philosophic questions
if we got consciousness then somehow we are loved and the creator has a plan for his children
i do not understand why there is an universe, cause it is much simple to suppose that nothing is exist really exept the unique spirit
my intelligence is not enough to see the nature of God
Howdy Drannom,
That sounds like Hermetic Philosophy, immensely profound, indeed!
Edit... After reading into the Electrinium Document it seems that it refering to oil as the life essence of Earth. By using oil as a fuel source we are essentially sucking the blood of the planet. The human race are planetary vampires, depriving the Earth of its essential life force.
Blessed Be Brother...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 13, 2008, 08:35:29 AMSo you would deny the existence of spirit, and of alien life and of GOD.
I never said I denied alien life. I just said I denied this stupid fraud.
Quote from: z.monkey on September 13, 2008, 08:35:29 AMThis atheistic attitude is responsible for the downfall of civilizations.
I'm pretty sure the christian crusades did worse.
Quote from: z.monkey on September 13, 2008, 08:35:29 AMYour pitiful brains struggle to find solutions that if you to let GOD give you a solution it would be effortless.
So how's your bedini motor running? Mine works flawlessly. Constant 12v output.
Quote from: z.monkey on September 13, 2008, 08:35:29 AMI pity people like yourselves because you feel that you can solve the problems using your brains while there are ready made solutions that you could simply ask GOD for.
I pity you because you expect the tooth fairy to do all of your work for you.
Quote from: z.monkey on September 13, 2008, 08:35:29 AMYou will be the ones that freak out when the Galactic Federation arrives, it will be beyond your brain's comprehension. You will panic and possibly seriously injure yourselves because of your emotional fear. There is still time for you to reach into your inner mind and understand what the love and light of GOD really is before the Galactic Federation arrives.
And when they don't come, I'll be laughing my ass off at you. I'll even record it for you. I'm not going to blindly believe aliens will arrive on a particular date because I saw a youtube video. When we do encounter aliens, and I know for a fact, that the people most accepted by them will be those who think calmly, rationally and don't blindly obey some organized religions boogyman.
We shall see just how dumb who ever is again in a month from now...
Anyhow out of curiousity z. monkey...
What is this suppsed word they use for anti gravity.
Howdy Nihilanth,
Yes, we will see...
Infringer, The best way that I can describe this is they use a miniature star which powers the ship, this would be a big ship. They understand the universal supply of "free" energy better than we. The All (what we consider to be The Universal Spirit, or GOD) produces an unlimited supply of energy. There is a central source (Sun) at the center of the universe, which transmits an infinite amount of creative force everywhere. Every star in the universe is a receiver of this creative force and retransmits this creative force (super light) as electromagnetic energy, gravity, heat, and light. A star is like a giant energy down converter. The Super Light coming from a Central Sun of a Galaxy or the Universe is converted into usable power locally, and then retransmitted to the local vicinity. In a Lightship, and do mean "Light Ship", there is a there is a similar down converter which is basically miniature star which converts the Super Light into everything they need on the ship. They need gravity, light , heat, and electromagnetic energy which the miniature star generates. Then there are other systems on the system that convert these forms of energy into whatever they need. So instead of using the Earth Term "Anti-Gravity" they use gravity, but they have a willful conscious control of gravity. I have not seen the technical documents but I hope to soon.
The really cool thing about a Lightship is the way that it is navigated. The ship is commanded by a being which has very advanced mental powers. The ship is mentally commanded by the pilot. The people in the Galactic Federation are like Angels compared to us. They know that they are Mental Beings living in the Physical Universe and they consciously use their Mental Power to act on the Physical Plane. There are no physical controls on a Lightship everything is done with force of will directly. The ship responds in every way conceivable to the mental commands of the enlightened occupants. The Lightship can be redesigned and refitted in flight. If they require the ship to be in a different configuration at their destination they refit the ship during flight mentally and the Lightship conforms to their willful mental commands
A Lightship will have a very different appearance than what we expect to see. Most people who are expecting this 10/14/2008 event are expecting to see a big metal flying saucer. Well it is not like that. A Lightship is different. Outer appearances make it seem like a luminous crystal structure in the shape of an 8 sided star. When I first started investigating this I though it would be a metal ship, but then I was corrected, it is a Lightship.
Blessed Be...
@z.monkey
On the 15th October you will be doing one of two things:
1. Gone.
or
2. Making excuses.
I just love it when these ning-nongs set dates!
ERS
Howdy Drannom,
The Electrinium Battery is a interesting device. A "permanent" battery. Very intriguing process much like silicon semiconductor manufacturing but by adding silver and iron into the we get a superconductor instead of a semiconductor. This is something that I would love to try. You are growing crystals already, but if I am not mistaken you are using a cold process that is water based. Have you ever considered growing silicon, or even silicon-iron-silver crystals? This is a chemical process free energy battery. I think that it is also similar to John Hutchison's Crystal Power Cell. Do you know of anyone who is attempting this process?
Blessed Be...
Quote from: professor on September 13, 2008, 03:09:12 PM
Looking at your photo I thought you were a person with reasonable intelligence... Just can't judge a Book by its Cover. Jung du tust mir leid!!
Professor
LOL ;D
One month to go!!!
Hey all! I figure you guys would like these sites:
National UFO Reporting Center
http://www.nuforc.org/
UFO Maps
http://www.ufomaps.com/
I want to believe!! ;)
Jason
Quote from: z.monkey on September 14, 2008, 08:31:07 AM
Howdy Drannom,
The Electrinium Battery is a interesting device. A "permanent" battery. Very intriguing process much like silicon semiconductor manufacturing but by adding silver and iron into the we get a superconductor instead of a semiconductor. This is something that I would love to try. You are growing crystals already, but if I am not mistaken you are using a cold process that is water based. Have you ever considered growing silicon, or even silicon-iron-silver crystals? This is a chemical process free energy battery. I think that it is also similar to John Hutchison's Crystal Power Cell. Do you know of anyone who is attempting this process?
Blessed Be...
hello Z_monkey
first, the Central Sun is not at the center of the universe, it is out of our universe, the creator has made some universes, so the Central Sun give the power to all the black holes, and black holes are usually at the center of a galaxy, some galaxies are melted and a black hole may not be always at the center of a galaxie
black hole receive energy from the Central Sun cause they are super big vortexes and may collect the Central Sun power from an hyperdimensional connection
so if a black hole is anywhere in the universe , it will not be less powerfull at all
second: electrinium is a way to convert Super Light from all the black holes (that we received) in electricity instead of only reflecting Super Light, in the electrinium there is also a simple recipe with steel, to convert Super Light in electricity you'll have to cristallize while putting a lot of voltage with low current, then the cristallized compound will get together two molecules with different density in a less space then it is suppose to be
that compression in the equilibrium of all matter, allow that cristallized compressed compound to emit more super light than other thing and transform it in electricity
all you need is two molecules like iron-silver or carbon-iron or many others possible combination of two molecules, i do not suggest to try iron silver at all, begin with more easy compound
there is many ways to collect Super Light, electrinium is one of them
most of all radiant devices, radiate Super Light, or a second consequence of the Super Light
It means that there is an equilibrium, break the equilibrium create electricity and fire, and magnets, and much more
i suggest to heat at red a layer of steel and apply a lot of volts on it while cristallizing the steel, each atomic layers will need is own voltage to get them together more near than normally possible
in Hutchinson topics they are not putting enough volts to get anything good !!!!!
each atomic layer of silver iron request 7 volts, so for one milimiter you'll need many thousand of volts !
in nanometer size of molecules it means a lot of layer just for 1 milimeter
secret governement use blue crystal to get full of power (from projectcamelot)
I think, perhaps, that licensed counselors should be contacted and placed in touch with many of the people posting on this thread. Particularly the ones who agree with the premise of the OP. It is mindless idiocy like this that leads to so much of the horrendous tragedy and ignorance in the world.
P.S. Hi Drannom. I'm from the Secret Government. We're going to get you, Drannom. We have inverted pyramids and the Central Darkness, which are more powerful than your pyramids.
P.S. P.S. I also hack elevators.
Obviously sanity isn't a requirement for this forum... Is a healthy sense of humor allowed?
;)
I hope and dream that the giant ship will arrive and I don't mind if anyone thinks I'm crazy saying so,
Often times I lie outside and watch the stars, I often see satellites and shooting stars. Last night I saw a dim satellite that pulsed with a brilliant flash about once every 15 seconds. I saw it flash about 10 times. Yes maybe it was a slowly rotating satellite, but then maybe it wasn't.
In the past I've seen more dramatic UFOs; satellites with non ballistic trajectories, changing direction too fast for anything that's earthmade and documented.
I also once saw a military plane, pretty sure it was B2, in silent antigrav mode, flying very low and very slow (<=30kph) with absolutely NO noise. I was about 50m away sat up a tree on the edge of some woods when it passed me. The craft had white landing lights on, no visible nav lights, the cockpit was illuminated and I could see two men at the controls sat side by side wearing brown flight suites. And no, it wasn't a lorry coasting down a road or anything, there was no road, it was a soft soiled grass pasture, there were no tracks in the morning.
Quote from: JRowe on September 15, 2008, 04:27:43 AM
I think, perhaps, that licensed counselors should be contacted and placed in touch with many of the people posting on this thread. Particularly the ones who agree with the premise of the OP. It is mindless idiocy like this that leads to so much of the horrendous tragedy and ignorance in the world.
P.S. Hi Drannom. I'm from the Secret Government. We're going to get you, Drannom. We have inverted pyramids and the Central Darkness, which are more powerful than your pyramids.
P.S. P.S. I also hack elevators.
Obviously sanity isn't a requirement for this forum... Is a healthy sense of humor allowed?
;)
Hi JRowe
i have a message for all the illuminatis followers, and the NWO followers
your boss, will let you down, they will go in underground basements and there will be no place for you, you'll stay on the earth surface and going to the 2012 event
i do not believe that your are such a followers cause all illuminatis will wonder of potassium alum pyramid
pyramid is the main symbol for them, and i cristallize pyramids growing in the exact shape of kheops, so if you get me you'll loose the expert in that
in fact i am the leader...
Surrender already, frenchman.
Quote from: JRowe on September 15, 2008, 05:19:08 AM
Surrender already, frenchman.
they have already got me in the past, this is the reason i have became a warrior, a warrior may die
when they will show up i will be ready to leave in my eternal soul to serve elsewhere in my light boby
someone said the same thing to Thomas Tragower, and he disapper for 15 days, he came back not the same he was
i am french, i am not suppose to be here, just read and learn OU and english, when i saw with my inner sense what cooking here, i have no choice to join the war
i am the leader in potassium alum pyramid
in the past i have asked to all demons to fight me, and nothing happen, my house is full of Super Light, full of pyramids, then they got me in the old fashoin way, and now i fight for the truth, and you are allow to not believe it
There's a simple and elegant Truth you should consider, should there be any true curiousity and yearning for truth in your mind.
All humor aside:
QuoteOui, Dieu a tant aimÃÆ'Ã,© le monde qu'il a donnÃÆ'Ã,© son Fils, son unique, pour que tous ceux qui placent leur confiance en lui ÃÆ'Ã,©chappent ÃÆ'Ã, la perdition et qu'ils aient la vie ÃÆ'Ã,©ternelle.
I'll leave you be, with that.
the french sentences you have give me is not true at all ! it is all bullshit cause to get save we have to do much more then just waiting for someone to save us, look at some Dajjal videos or Zeigleist videos to see that, illuminatis expect us to wait for Jesus return, and this story has been put in many other religions with other names, in fact the anti christ will come here as if he is the leader of this future NWO world, see my reptilian fox reporter topic too to get some links
Howdy Y'all,
This site is about Free Energy and Over Unity. There are many inventive creative minds here. Many, many interesting and innovative inventions are here. I do not see why people who would be pursuing the ideas of free energy and over unity would ridicule and make idle, pointless threats to any researcher here unless they were affiliated with the oil men or the power line transmission men. Invention is something that requires thinking out of the box. The larger the mind dares to dream the larger the potential payback can become. In this thread we are looking at the biggest picture that we can comprehend, GOD, The Universe, Beings that live in space and their technologies, yet there are some who would ridicule and berate us for expanding our minds so that we can invent. Those who tear down the ones who dare to dream the biggest dream will feel very foolish when we accomplish something great. The ship on 10/14/2008 may come, it may not. The point is that we are trying to expand our minds to understand how something like this could be possible. We are seeking to understand how a 1000 mile wide ship could exist, and what could power it. It is this process of expanding our minds to fit in the big possibilities which is going to to lead to the advent of Free Energy, Over Unity, and Anti-Gravity. We must do this in order to understand the universe wide big picture so that we may invent. Those who would ridicule and tear this noble concept down apparently do not understand the process of creative invention for they would tear down the apparatus which would make their dreams possible.
Blessed Be...
I could imagine my p3nis being 10 miles long, and try to imagine how my body might have to change to support it, and what type of woman I'd have to marry in order to have children... but this wouldn't teach me anything at all about biology in real life.
Imagine all you want.
I'll be working with numbers, scientific method, and legitimate research from brilliant scientists. And mocking you new age morons at every opportunity.
Grow more pyramids, noob. All ur thoughtwave are belong to me!
ohnoez, tinhatz!
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyblahg.com%2Fgraphics%2Fcat-tinfoil-hat.jpg&hash=ebe10eb41af8bf1f1c1e23f6c89f3f35dfd6f491)
Howdy JRowe,
I put a giant tin foil cap on my house so you can't interfere with my thought processes, so nay nay!!!
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4897.0/topicseen.html
Blessed Be...
@JRowe
Why are you in this thread? If you don't like what you read then just move on, simple! If it helps then just look on this thread as a playground for dreamers, there's no need to get worked up about it? If you prefer more scientific approaches then start a more scientific thread or join one.
P.S.
I love the picture of the cat in the foil hat, it looks like a bengal cross, I live with a 5 year old male bengal and he's a fine creature.
@Drannom
I really like your crystal lab work, great stuff!
Quote from: JRowe on September 15, 2008, 07:09:59 AM
I could imagine my p3nis being 10 miles long, and try to imagine how my body might have to change to support it, and what type of woman I'd have to marry in order to have children... but this wouldn't teach me anything at all about biology in real life.
Imagine all you want.
I'll be working with numbers, scientific method, and legitimate research from brilliant scientists. And mocking you new age morons at every opportunity.
Grow more pyramids, noob. All ur thoughtwave are belong to me!
ohnoez, tinhatz!
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyblahg.com%2Fgraphics%2Fcat-tinfoil-hat.jpg&hash=ebe10eb41af8bf1f1c1e23f6c89f3f35dfd6f491)
LOL.. come on guys.. nothing wrong with a little humor!
Jason
Howdy 4Tesla,
JRowe (n00b) doesn't understand that I am an engineer and not a "new age moron". I came to these conclusions in my quest for free energy. The information does seem outlandish, but you too can take your quest to the extreme ends of consciousness and see what you come up with...
Blessed Be...
Yep.. that wasn't nice.. cute cat though.
Jason
It's all a matter of perspective - the sceptics consider anyone who 'believes', as "new-age morons", whereas the Believers consider the sceptics as sheep, believing everything that the bigoil-run governments of the world say as gospel. Neither are overly flattering opinions...
btw, global financial collapse continues on schedule, another major bank (Lehman Brothers) declares bankrupcy. The government in one fell swoop had just lumbered the american taxpayer with an additional $800 billion financial burden with fannie mae/freddy mac baleout - to put it in perspective, they instantaneously increased the national debt by almost 12%, devaluing the greenback by a similar amount - so the question is, are they planning something similar for the most recent casualty?
2012 NEWS UPDATE: "9/11-like" Impending Event Alerts - Oct 7, 2008 to Feb. 19, 2009
VANCOUVER, B.C. - Two think tanks - Arlington Institute and The Web Bots (www.halfpasthuman.com) - are independently forecasting Impending Event Alerts. In the case of the Arlington Institute, it is the next 60 day in the USA. In the case of the Web Bots, the impeding Event Alert period is from Oct 7, 2008 through Feb. 19, 2009, with a warning period during Sept 22-27, 2008. Each of these think tanks follows a different, though procedurally analogous methodology in arriving at these Alerts.
Both Think Tanks are forecasting an event period of high emotion, comparable to a "9/11 Event" lasting 60 days to four months instead of ten days.
I. WEB BOTS (Oct 7, 2008 - Feb.19, 2009:
From Paranormal_Research@yahoogroups.com :
>>>>>>>>>
Background on this : This is one of the Time Monks who developed the program that has webbots crawl the Net for certain words and directions and draw up future predictions.
They have a website: halfpasthuman you can subscribe to for a yearly fee.
[link to www.halfpasthuman.com]
They have had an uncanny success record on predictions such as 9/11, weather, economy .... anyway, when something this "big" is coming, they share it with the Public for Free ... Here is what one said on the Jeff Rense Show...
PREDICTION
The Web Bots see September 22-27, 2008 as precursor dates to the main turning point date of October 7, 2008. Closely watch events during September 22-27, 2008 for hints as to what to expect on October 7, 2008.
Cliff said whenever "it" happens, and whatever "it" turns out to be, "it" will be a date in history you remember like 9/11, we will remember 10/7.
The Web Bots foresee that October 7, 2008 to February 19, 2009 will be filled with emotional intensity, and the length of the release period will be extraordinary. The Web Bots have never picked up any event lasting this long. In comparison, 9/11 length lasted about 10 days. This event will be four months of high emotion.
The Web Bots foresee consumer society collapsing by mid November 2008.
The Web Bots foresee a West Coast/Vancouver area large scale earthquake around December 12, 2008.
The Web Bots foresee that the Winter in the Northeast will be very cold this Winter, causing some schools to close, and then later to reopen as shelters for people who can't heat their homes. Language suggests that the shortage will either be caused by supply, cost of fuel, or both. (Taken from the Rense Show interview with Cliff.)
II. ARLINGTON INSTITUTE - IMPENDING EVENT ALERT (Next 60 days)
From: Forrist Lytehaause (Webmaster@EdenBound.com)
Date: 10 Sep 2008
Subject: FWD: Impending Event Alert
Hi, I am guessing that, like myself, you consider yourself fairly intuitive and may choose to contribute to the effort described below. Even if you do not have such dreams, the information is coming to me from the Arlington Institute, a highly reliable source. I have received their free FuturEdition newsletter for a number of years. This is new territory for them.
Another sobering website that has my attention is:
[link to www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net]
May blessings and Grace be with you as Life unfolds in all Perfection.
Forrist
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From: The Future (TheFuture@FUTUREdition.org)
Date: 9 Sep 2008
Subject: Impending Event Alert
TAI Alert #15 Impending Event Alert
Here at the Arlington Institute, we have worked with real precognizant dreamers who have had experience with intelligence services and we have subsequently learned about the hundreds of case studies of individuals who had explicit dreams about the 9/11 affair (people jumping out of burning high rise buildings, etc.), beginning some six months before the event. We have been intrigued with the notion that the human collective unconscious somehow anticipates large impending perturbations. Our WHETHEReport project, for which we are looking for funding, is in fact based upon this dynamic. In telling people about this project I have received strong confirmations of the efficacy of the underlying logic from many individuals around the world.
Well, in the last two days I have received four independent, explicit indications from far removed friends suggesting that something very substantial and disruptive is going to happen to the U.S. within the next 60 days or so. If these warnings manifest themselves in an event of the significance of something like 9/11 then people all over the world should begin to experience dreams and other intuitions suggesting that something extraordinary is about to happen. [Emphasis added]
So I'm asking you to participate in an experiment with us. If you, or someone you know, experiences any kind of significant suggestion (dream, intuition, etc.) that something big and disruptive is about to happen in the coming weeks, send us a note and tell us about it. We'll compile them all and see if we can find any patterns or pointers toward an actual future event. Just cut and paste the form below into an email and fill it out and send it in. I'll let you know what happens. If you have multiple experiences, please send them along too.
You don't need to include any identification and we'll certainly keep all of this information confidential.
Thanks.
Send to dreams2008@arlingtoninstitute.org
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Date of dream or intuition:
Geographic Location of dreamer:
Narrative of actual dream/intuition:
Degree of urgency of dream/intuition: (scale of 1-10. 10 is most urgent)
Element of the dream/intuition that stands out as being most important:
Geographic location of the dream event (if any):
Illuminating comments about the experience:
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III. Researcher and author Barbara Hand Clow forsees some of the turbulence during this Impending Event alert period in her recent Astroflash:
"Regarding how to use these new possibilities, we have a lot of help from the other planets as well. Venus, Mercury, and Mars are gathered together in early Libra in a potent square to Pluto on the Galactic Center. With Mars, Mercury, and Venus in Libra, everyone on the planet will long for peace and harmony and will find themselves demanding these qualities with Pluto on the Galactic Center pushing them. We will see the desire for peace building into a wave like the great movement during the "Summer of Love" in San Francisco in 1967. These combinations could start a harmonic tsunami of the heart during the New Moon that could overwhelm almost any counterforce until at least the Full Moon on September 15, when changes based on the people's desires could strike like lightning with Uranus right on the Full Moon. We still have Chiron traveling on the Lunar North Node softened by Neptune in Aquarius. Chiron on the North Node for so many months (May through November 2008) has been giving us courage to heal ourselves and to be honest while all the unhealed wounds from the Planetary and National Underworlds get processed. The astrology at the end of the Mayan Calendar is truly awesome.
"I'd like to finish with a few words, mostly for Americans, about Saturn's opposition to Uranus on November 4, since you may lose your mind unless you prepare yourself for this great shift now. The basic idea is that you must realize that who you are as an individual and your participation in your own communities is your most important and influential reality. You must master your own frequencies during this wonderful harmonic in September, since the astrological field on November 4 is going to be chaotic and potentially extremely destructive. While Saturn opposes Uranus (structural change conflict), Venus in Sagittarius (liberation of the feminine) forms a T-Square to this opposition, which means most of the structural change will occur within male/female relations. Jupiter in Capricorn is still in trine to Saturn in Virgo, and so the material world will support you if you are careful and sensible. Mars in 21 Scorpio (manipulation and greed) exactly squares Neptune in Aquarius (fantasy-ridden rapid change or spiritual ecstasy), and then Neptune is stationary and goes direct the day after the election.
"This all means that in early November the US will be wallowing in CNN/Fox TV media madness, making people screaming crazy. Yet, this is just the passing scene in an electronic box. It is time to master grounding, no matter how chaotic the world seems to be. November 4 looks like it might be a day that many people withdraw their consciousness from the collective mind and take back their personal power. So now, September is a time for significant new levels of self-understanding, so that the fertile field of the Fall Equinox can set in balance and harmony for the months ahead. Be sure to tune in on the Fall Equinox on September 22 for an in-depth analysis of how to prepare for Saturn-opposite-Uranus during 2008 to 2010." [Emphasis added]
The Aliens made me do it! ;)
http://hackersclub.net/Ernest_Holmes_The_Science_of_Mind_1926.pdf
Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 12, 2008, 09:38:42 PM
Jeeeeeeeeesus, you guys are into one wacky religion!
Thank God I'm an atheist! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hans von Lieven
I feel sorry for you guys,
You don't even recognise an oxymoron when you see it (Look the word up, I'm sure you don't know it)
Why would an atheist (someone who doesn't believe in God) thank
God to be an atheist? If your aliens aren't any smarter than you, they'll be a pushover. Roll on 14th of October. I for one am ready to take them on !!!!
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 16, 2008, 12:27:50 AM
Roll on 14th of October. I for one am ready to take them on !!!!
Me too!! I finally get to hijack that ship I dreamt of, except in the dream I couldn't work out how to close the door.
That could be a problem Goldsphere! ;D ;D ;D
Some duct tape perhaps and a bit of cardboard?
Hans von Lieven
I've started carrying around a paper clip and a bit of string.
McGuyver could fix or build anything with them. ;D
Don't forget the tinfoil hat :D :D :D
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 16, 2008, 12:27:50 AM
Why would an atheist (someone who doesn't believe in God) thank God to be an atheist?
lol good one hans.
i herd that they will be giving out free pop corn to the ones that agree to take their tin foil hats off.
If you make those tin foil hats in layers, interleaved with alternating layers of wax paper, you can use it as a capacitor to harness the energy from the mind control waves and Bingo! F.E. ::)
Anyone ever figure out why Alabama?
Howdy Y'all,
I added a mental tuning circuit to my tinfoil hat last night so that I can tune out pessimism.
They chose Alabama because there was an ancient space port there, long before Atlantis.
Blessed Be...
Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 16, 2008, 12:27:50 AMYou don't even recognise an oxymoron when you see it (Look the word up, I'm sure you don't know it)
Maybe this assumption prevented to see the jokes in some answer as well...
Howdy Y'all,
Here are a couple more bits of information from LuisPrada.com.
Blessed Be...
Tilleter and Kon-tau-ra from the Starships Twin Star and Blue Star
Through Spirit Eagle
Sunday September 14, 2008, 10:50 pm
Tilleter and Kon-tau-ra confirming the October Event, confirmation of the Goodchild's message. Taken from: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DiscerningAngels/message/40911 .
We are on the Twin Star. We have been in your skies for a very long time indeed! I am what you term, a Communications Officer. I have been tasked with a message to your world.
No doubt many of you have heard about the October 14 date as a possible de-cloaking of a Mothership and many smaller craft flooding your skies with proof that we are here for Humanity, that we are Real, and that we are here to help you and have been doing just that for many years.
As you know, it is impossible for the manipulation and controls put upon Humanity for millennia to continue as Earth Ascends into the Higher Realms. We now have the "go ahead" to do what must be done for Earth and Humanity's sake to end the Dark Dream that has paralyzed the people through Fear on Every level of your Precious Beings!
Many still slumber in this illusion and it is for them that we are appearing in this dramatic way. Be ready to assist where you are needed! This is a Call To Action! Be Clear in Every Aspect of your Beings in order to assist those around you who have not had your awareness and exposure to your Star Brothers and Sisters.
We, who have waited for this decision, are as happy and excited as you are that this long-held dream is coming to fruition! Clean out the cupboards of your minds, emotions, bodies, and souls because it is TIME TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE NEW!
I am Tilleter of the Twin Star, and I am Kon-tau-ra on temporary duty from the Blue Star.
Commander Antoniose Soltec, Geophysicist of the Galactic Federation, from the Starship Phoenix
Through Heidi Stadler, www.rainbowstar.ch
Saturday September 6, 2008
Soltec confirming the October Event, confirmation of the Goodchild's message. Taken from: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DiscerningAngels/message/40909 .
Soltec: Greetings to you, dear friends of the Earth. I am Commander Soltec, from the Starship Phoenix, which oversees your Earth, the blue planet, since eons.
We love humanity because we can see behind their masks and we can feel in many of you a great desperation. This shows us a dark heavy energy that we can see on our big screens that are located in our vessel. However, we are very happy about your fast change in your awareness. This is now starting in your energy fields. Doubts are always food for the dark cabal as you have named them. The more you lay down your doubts towards us, the more your planet will speed up back into the Light.
Heidi: Dear Soltec, I will not ask you what will happen on October 14th because now we know, without doubt, it will happen.
Soltec: My Dear, I can assure you all is as planned. *(Smile.) The days and weeks ahead will be very interesting for all of you. All that is familiar to you will change in a rapid way whereas you won't even have time to think about it. Every moment in this speedy vibration will bring many new experiences to you which will free you and let you breathe again. The Light will gain its power more and more which will change your dense, old, and invalid bodies, your worries, your diseases and your dependencies which cannot be sustain in this Light.
All this will be transformed by this Light and you will be changed from an earthly limited human to a galactic unlimited human. This change has been already prepared for a long time from the High Masters of Light which have taken the responsibility for your solar system. For that to occur they have been given a time frame, which is in full play and is about to draw to a close.
We would like to give you some helpful hints:
May you never be entrapped again by the games of the 3D wherever you are. The 3D is going to be vaporized, so to speak. Imagine a thick, dark puff of smoke which has captivated you and your planet Earth. Because of the shining Light at the present time this dark puff of smoke will evaporate and the Divine Light will be able to enter your physical body and change it to who you really are. The feelings that you will have during this process will be very uplifting to your consciousness which will change your everyday life. But all this depends upon your acceptance of the Divine Light.
To what extent can you, dear reader, embrace this message fully? For the moment your bodies are very stressed because of the high acceleration of this energy. Accept it and think that you will enter into a New World with a New Body. You are carried by your Family of Light who can think of only one thing which is to embrace you in a very short time and welcome you back to your real Kingdom of Light.
We know the way back has been long and difficult for you, but when you come back you will be amply rewarded. This reconnection will be well worth that long and difficult experience in which there are no words that can express this reconnection... for it is beyond words. We ask you very strongly to dissolve the old energy and your past from your own rising Light.
Be in Joy for all that is new for you because it has been waiting for all the shadows to be gone. Days and nights will merge to be one bright Light on Earth. There will be no place for darkness anymore either in your consciousness or on the physical level. Glory days are in front of you and they are incompatible with your old lives. Greet the NEW, like a new morning dawn break, with joy and confidence. For this new morning will be the day when we will make us visible to you.... and WE WILL COME...
I am Commander Soltec and I thank you to spread out this message.
Good post Z.monkey ;)
Yup. Wild planet. Were each on a journey of our own. See you on the flip side :)
Check out www.projectavalon.net part of www.projectcamelot.org
i posted before in this thread but thought you might have missed it when all this info was published in this thread.
The search for free energy should lead to many of these stories...not all...but I don't really know.
Because when you start asking why is it covered up you start to see
WHO WHAT WHERE WHEN WHY HOW.
Much more information is coming to light. Great thread. Keep researching and studying.
We are almost at the end of the 5th night of the galactic cycle.
Research and watch Ian Xel Lungolds videos of the mayan calander to understand what that means.
Mayanmajix.com i think
Peace
JT
Here's some fuel...
article: http://gizmodo.com/5049896/hubble-finds-unidentified-object-in-space
paper: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0809/0809.1648v1.pdf
Quote from: JesterTerrestrial on September 16, 2008, 02:42:43 PM
We are almost at the end of the 5th night of the galactic cycle.
Research and watch Ian Xel Lungolds videos of the mayan calander to understand what that means.
Mayanmajix.com i think
Peace
JT
Thanks jester,
That video is excellent. And gives more than hope.
thank you
jeanna
What if the UFOÂÃ,´s donÂÃ,´t come on 2008-10-14 ???
If you do some research, the day of the galactic freedom was also 2008-08-08 ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtExbEftwk
I pay a 50 Liter beer barrel if the Aliens (or only the UFOÂÃ,´s) come on the 14th of October.
greetings
@ felix.lamet
I bet they had to stop for gas on the way here ;D
Howdy felix.lamet,
I LIKE Beer! So, you bring the beer and we'll have a UFO barbeque at my place.
Blessed Be...
shooter001 Easy on the drugs!
Quote from: z.monkey on September 17, 2008, 07:11:11 AM
Howdy felix.lamet,
I LIKE Beer! So, you bring the beer and we'll have a UFO barbeque at my place.
Blessed Be...
Z Monkey
That looks like a very nice grill.
I hate to be the one to break the news to you.
If this UFO arrives it is going to be really big .
You are going to need a MUCH bigger grill if you are planning on cooking it
;D ;D ;D
gary
Howdy Resonanceman,
Hahhahahhahahaaaahaaaa... I didn't plan on cooking the UFO, but the US.Gov might be...
Blessed Be...
@z.monkey
:o That's a mighty fine grill you got there. :o
Howdy Y'all,
Thanks wile_coyote7! Perhaps we can put some Roadrunner on it for the Galactic Federation Party!
Here is this weeks Sirian (from Sirius) update.
http://www.paoweb.com/sn091608.htm
They mentioned the Treaty of Anchara. Which I looked up on the net and found this...
"ANCHARA", Source of GALACTIC WARS and EVIL
Copied below are 4 definitions from the Glossary of
Important Terms, pages 223-4, of the book "Your Galactic
Neighbors", by Sheldan Nidle, 2005, Blue Lodge Press,
http://www.paoweb.com .
"Anchara: Entity commanded eons ago by Heaven to
bring forth a great darkness upon this galaxy and, at
the right divine time, to shift this galaxy toward the
Light.
"Anchara Alliance: A former galactic organization,
consisting of various dark empires, star leagues and
star-nations, dedicated to the conquest of this galaxy
in the name of their dark overlord, Anchara.
"Treaty of Anchara: Peace agreement signed between
the Galactic Federation of Light and the former Anchara
Alliance. Concluded after Anchara's sudden declaration
to its priests and priestesses that the time of prophecy
had come. Anchara ordered its galactic minions to end
their wars and join with the Galactic Federation to form
one harmonious whole.
"Anunnaki: For 13 millennia, the Anunnaki were
Earth's dark off-world masters. In 1995, they changed
sides, abandoned their Earth minions (the "Illuminoids"
or "Illuminati") and advised them to do likewise."
[ Cheney's CABAL is still making trouble.]
See also: http://members.aol.com/rem460/galacfed.txt ,
http://members.aol.com/rem460/moonmars.txt ,
http://members.aol.com/rem460/pluto.txt ,
http://members.aol.com/rem460/terror11.txt , and
http://members.aol.com/rem460/badgods.txt .
Robert E. McElwaine
PAO Member
Eckankar Initiate
B.S., Physics and Astronomy, UW-EC
http://members.aol.com/rem547 PLUS
http://members.aol.com/rem460
Preserve BOTH on CD-R and PRINT-OUTS
P.S.: PASS IT ON !
So, apparently (something I kind of knew already) the Forces of Darkness are under Heavens Command also. So it tis true that "All things work together for good". Satan, Lucifer, the Annunaki, the Anchara Alliance are all under the direction of Heaven as well. If you think about this it does make logical sense. How do you get people to learn when they are too lazy to lift a finger? Send evil forces to kill them. An exceptional motivator. The Annunaki and the Anchara Alliance suddenly waffled in 1995 (I had previously heard 1998), does that seem logical for a force bent on domination of the universe? No, unless they were on the good side all along just pretending to be evil. Deep down they knew that they couldn't hurt our spirits by killing our bodies. So the "too lazy to learn" men were motivated by the cycles of reincarnation to learn, as quickly as they could, the rules of the universe and began to evolve and improve the conditions on Earth. This is a pretty serious learning curve were on. But now we are approaching the end of our physical learning curve and are fixing to embark on a spiritual learning curve with the ascension. Just one little detail left, the remaining physical Forces of Darkness which remain on the physical plane. They are the "hell bent for world domination" Elitist NWO Illuminati who don't realize that the Annunaki were actually just playing evil and are still focused on mankind succumbing to their domination. The Annunaki must have programmed them really well, because they are deadlocked into their endeavor. This is the main focus of the Forces of Light at this time. The Elitist NWO Illuminati need to realize that they are GOD's children also and that it is time to give up the fight. That will be a hard sell. Of course these guys are the product of millenia of mind control and rigid programming under the Annunaki, so they are having a hard time realizing that they are us, we are them. Just one big happy galactic family which are programmed in diametrically opposite ways. The best thing that you can do for these guys is to pray for them and send them light and love...
Blessed Be...
You guys can't be Sirius.
:D
Hans von Lieven
Howdy Hans,
Uuulgh... That's a Sit Down joke. You tell the joke. The audience yells "SIT DOWN"!
Blessed Be...
Puns can sometimes come back around and bite uranus.
Regardly...
@Z monkey , keep cookn, i got grendel, i'm on my way
wheres ur place? dude?
what news ? heuu
http://projectcamelot.org/index.html
17 sept
QuoteA source has just informed us that their alphabet agency contact has been deployed to the Middle East. In the words of the contact, war with Iran is now a "done deal". This contact had also said in a previous message that he was "too old for this shit".
Back in July, the contact stated that Israel will start it, and the US will back them, mainly with refueling. We have no further information to indicate whether this strategy is still current.
Our source has asked for us all to pray for peace.
It is Camelot's view that an attack may be used to take the eyes of the world off the ongoing economic crash and on to the war scenario in a major effort to distract while things go downhill.
Our source Henry Deacon, who has worked with many different agencies on many different projects, has told us (in response to our sharing with him the above information) that he was contacted last week with a view to an immediate and urgent assignment in the Middle East at an extremely high rate of pay. Henry turned down the offer.
15 sept Green
QuoteI'll call you. Things are really coming. The meeting today on the government assisting the sale of Lehman to Barclays fell through... the dollar is close to collapse.
http://projectcamelot.org/index.html
Howdy X00013,
The party is not until 10/15/2008, sorry.
Drannom, I have heard that Iran has Plasma Shield technologies, and that they have already repelled a US/Israel attack. This is an excerpt from "Ultimatum of Sananda to the Illuminati: Stand Down & Stand Aside" from LuisPrada.com. I had posted a link to this page earlier in this thread. Here is another link...
http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/stand_down_&_stand_aside.htm
Blessed Be...
Check Mate, Perhaps?
By Christ Michael Thru Candace
April 3, 2008
Taken from: http://abundanthope.net/pages/article_1421.shtml
Beloveds of AbundantHope readers, do not take this message for yourselves, this is brief and its intended audience is our dark readers.
To those of Cabal, we are washing our hands of this next game and we shall not interfere in it like we did with the Lebanese War of 2006. You are free to play this upcoming game and also to experience any consequences of others of the global players, for others shall hold you responsible for your actions. They shall teach of you your lesson, beware on that. This game of chess going on may well check mate you. That is all for now. This transmission is From Christ Michael of Nebadon.
Did You Like the Results?
By Christ Michael Thru Candace
April 10, 2008
Taken from: http://abundanthope.net/pages/article_1448.shtml . This and previous message is referring to the bombing of Iran approved by the Bilderberg Club Meeting 2006 at the Brookstreet Hotel in Ottawa, Canada, and the Bilderberg Club Meeting 2007 in Istanbul, Turkey. The takeover of the Iranian oil and the control of the Iranian Burse is key in the New World Order agenda.
Dearly beloveds, ATON here, and like my last short piece, this is not for the readers of AbundantHope. It is but for our dark ones.
Nice game you played today, dark buddies! Did you like the results? And that wasn’t our interference, it was the result of technology that others on this planet have been gifted with and that you do not have! We allowed the nuclear bombs, and you watched them die in the plasma shields. Wasn’t that fun????? It wasn’t our plasma shields, for others now have this on the planet and are rather immune to your games.
Continue thy other games, and you shall see similar results. Others have come to the Light and been duly gifted. Judge for yourself what other games you might play and see the results. You aren’t going to win this one. You saw a nice check mate today, didn’t you? There will be more checkmates, until you realize you do not hold the balance of power anymore. God always gifts the lighted ones and now you see the proof.
Good day. I am ATON, we’ll use that name today. It matters not, for I am still the Creator Son by any name of Nebadon.
Don’t Mess with the Daughter’s Wedding
By Christ Michael Thru Candace
May 9, 2008
Taken from: http://abundanthope.net/pages/article_1556.shtml
Dearly beloveds, you who are regular readers of AbundantHope, this is again, not necessarily for you, but for our â€Ã...“otherâ€Ã, readers.
We have spent a long several days again now interfering with the plans of you, the dark brotherhood. Lebanon will be settled down, there is assistance to the Hezbollah and this shall not be. You will not be inflaming Syria either as part of your game.
Although we are not supportive of the Bush regime, we will protect also the daughter and her wedding. For it is her day and not yours to mess with. We know about the continued plans to cause an attack in Texas. We know the military game there. We are aware that military families are being brought to special areas and being given advice and told the Army takes care of its own.
You American citizens are not being given what these military families are being given. You are not being given the promises of plenty of food by rations and adequate electricity by generator.
Know, since you do not possess any capable nuclear bombs, we do know of the intent to use simply many of your various larger bombs equipped with DU.
NOW I WILL SAY THIS. SETUP OF THIS MESS YOU ARE PLANNING IN TEXAS THIS WEEKEND, AND THE DAUGHTER’S WEDDING WILL NOT GO AS PLANNED. WE WILL DROP OUT OF THE SKY AND THAT IS ENOUGH SAID AT THIS TIME. I AM HE THAT RUNS THE FINAL SHOW. I AM ATON. SO BE IT.
[N. of E.: The last cabal was trying to convert Mother's Day, 5/11 (2008) into another 9/11 by dropping depleted-uranium bombs on the state of Texas to declare martial law.]
Blossom Goodchild is holding a radio interview tomorrow on the 19th september, the show will be hosted by Mike Quinsey. This will be broadcast live so we can all listen to it on the internet at 2pm Pacific Time.
Here is the link http://www.bbsradio.com/
Blossom Goodchild UPDATE!
8. WOW! It is SO good to hear how many souls on the planet want this to happen. I am TRUSTING all is still very much in order for your visit. I guess I am like most people â€Ã,¦ most days I am very positive and KNOW you will show and try to imagine a world after that , and other days I have a little moment (I must be honest) of doubt. But on the whole I think the planet is really excelling itself and lifting those vibes to assist your smooth emergence into our atmospheres. You are causing quite a sensation, you know that don’t you?
Indeed Blossom for this was our great intention. And when you use the word sensation you are unaware exactly of the enormity of that word that we shall allow to ensue. Sensation in many forms. SENSE â€Ã,¦ Sense our coming from this day on. As an animal can hear the whisper in the breeze long before the human, allow your senses to be heightened and â€ËÅ"feel’ us in the air. In this way we can help to adjust your levels of frequency in order for it to be of a more suitable transition period. By this we mean of your physical, mental and spiritual transition. For indeed our presentation shall affect all of theses â€ËÅ"senses’ in many ways.
Again we stress â€Ã,¦DO NOT BE OF FEAR. All of this can be carried out with ease if one lets go of fear.
WE COME TO ASSIST. THIS MUST BE MADE KNOWN.
There is much talk in your world of where we may arrive is there not?
Yep. People are coming up with all sorts of suggestions â€Ã,¦ mainly due to your â€ËÅ"Alabama’ statement â€Ã,¦and your snow cone statement â€Ã,¦ any further update in this?
Yes there is â€Ã,¦
OH GAWD! I had a feeling you were going to say that!!! Deep breathe Blossomâ€Ã,¦ here we go again.
It has been decided due to current affairs that we will not be revealing our place of entrance until we indeed enter!
Actually that doesn’t surprise me one bit.
On the other hand your planet will be made aware of our presence drawing closer through different signals and transmissions that we shall omit through various sources.
Which would be â€Ã,¦.? Pointless me asking I know!
You know of the way we work so well now dear lady. For you know also that when we wish for the next step to be known then indeed we shall let it be known. Many of us are still at loggerheads as to plans that are necessary to carry out. This statement surprises you it seems and yet due to reactions from different parts of your globe there are certain forecasts that need to be corrected.
Sorry getting a bit lost here â€Ã,¦In fact what are you trying to say? â€Ã,¦ with all respect.
In order for this presentation to go exactly as envisaged, we deem it necessary to extract certain information from channels on your planet and suggest that we â€ËÅ"re label’ their point in question.
For instance?
WE ARE THE FEDERATION OF LIGHT. THIS NAME ENCOMPASSES ALL NATIONS OF LIGHT WITHIN OUR STAR SYSTEMS. SOME WHICH ARE KNOWN TO YOU â€Ã,¦ SOME WHICH ARE NOT. OUR DECISION TO INTERVENE WITH PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE WITHIN CERTAIN FEDERATIONS ON YOUR EARTH PLANE IS A NECESSARY ONE.
If we were to reveal our TRUE purpose at this point we would unveil a TRUTH that is not quite ready to be accepted by you humans and yet when it is uncovered there will be much humiliation put upon those who have been covering up this atrocity. We act now because we can not leave it to fester and grow at the rate in which it is so doing. Therefore people of earthâ€Ã,¦
WAKE UP TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE COMING.
And â€Ã,¦Ã¢â‚¬Ã,¦
WE ARE COMING ON THE DATE STATED â€Ã,¦
14TH OCTOBER
They wanted that BIG! They/ me are being very bold today are we not?
Do you think we would put in jeopardy the solid reputation of this our vessel that was chosen?
Comforting words just quietly!
We ask you to comprehend in all seriousness what this may mean to life on your planet in the days ahead. How will our visit affect you, your children, and your grandchildren? Will you be the ones to change your ways in order to bring back the beauty of your planet and indeed your selves? We say this is a positive action. We say you have all been chosen to play your part. Will you recognize your role when the time comes? If you are True to your self then of course you will â€Ã,¦ and your determination will be abounding with strength and illumination. You on â€Ã...“THE GROUNDâ€Ã, are there to anchor the forces of LIGHT into their new position. What wonders you shall all behold as you unite in a manner that has been long forgotten. We choose to leave this for this day in the knowledge we shall resume presently.
WE ARE OF MUCH EXCITEMENT.
WE THANK ALL FOR PLAYING THEIR PART IN BRINGING YOUR FUTURE DAYS INTO THE DAYS OF TRUTH THAT ARE WRITTEN IN YOUR HISTORY BOOKS.
MMM Nicely put! Thank you for today my friends. !
Howdy Y'all,
It is always nice to hear from Blossom and the Galactic Federation of Light...
Here is another related article from Mathew Ward. Titled essay on 2012 and Beyond.
http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/essay_on_2012_and_beyond.htm
Blessed Be...
blossom goodchilds demeanor annoys me.
she is just another fluff-head, who cannot see the necessary balance.
light-mongers are just as guilty of creating darkness,
as the evil jackholes are guilty of creating darkness.
because an excessive amount of light, forces an equal amount of excessive darkness to come into existance. as a balancing force.
there would not be any war between the light and the darkness, if everyone respected and held both within themself.
because then there would not be a polarized build up, which would eventually short out, causing extreme destruction.
instead, there would be peace and optimal spiritual growth for everyone, at all times.
and everyone could have whatever they wanted, regardless of that things alignment.
Quote from: nitinnun on September 20, 2008, 03:44:08 PM
blossom goodchilds demeanor annoys me.
she is just another fluff-head, who cannot see the necessary balance.
light-mongers are just as guilty of creating darkness,
as the evil jackholes are guilty of creating darkness.
because an excessive amount of light, forces an equal amount of excessive darkness to come into existance. as a balancing force.
there would not be any war between the light and the darkness, if everyone respected and held both within themself.
because then there would not be a polarized build up, which would eventually short out, causing extreme destruction.
instead, there would be peace and optimal spiritual growth for everyone, at all times.
and everyone could have whatever they wanted, regardless of that things alignment.
nitinnun
Can you see the necessary balance here?
Can you see that not all messages are ment for you?
Can you see that there is a need for messages for those that arn't able to receive messages more directly?
Can you see that the messages for those that can't receive directly need to be different in some ways to the messages for those that do recieve directly ?
It seems to me that if a message is to go out to all that are interested it has to go out on MANY levels in MANY forms. .........why whine about one of those messages or messengers not being to your liking?
gary
Quote from: resonanceman on September 20, 2008, 04:06:49 PM
nitinnun
Can you see the necessary balance here?
Can you see that not all messages are ment for you?
Can you see that there is a need for messages for those that arn't able to receive messages more directly?
Can you see that the messages for those that can't receive directly need to be different in some ways to the messages for those that do recieve directly ?
It seems to me that if a message is to go out to all that are interested it has to go out on MANY levels in MANY forms. .........why whine about one of those messages or messengers not being to your liking?
gary
*extends middle finger*
this is my message to you, "gary".
is it in a form, that you can comprehend?
Quote from: nitinnun on September 20, 2008, 03:44:08 PM
there would not be any war between the light and the darkness, if everyone respected and held both within themself.
The above quote is the only thing of any actual value to come from this entire thread to date...
WTG nitinnun, THAT is the one universal truth we should all know but seem to have forgotten.
ANYTHING (even GOOD things) to an extreme is ultimately harmful.
Didn't even have to wait for 10/14/08 for enlightenment, it's right here!
Oh, really nice, nitinnun. Tons of "balance" in that message. Geez.
Quote from: nitinnun on September 20, 2008, 07:09:31 PM
*extends middle finger*
this is my message to you, "gary".
is it in a form, that you can comprehend?
I just recieved inside news that this is all propaganda for a new movie
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Mars Attacks 2
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Quote from: jdsanders on September 20, 2008, 09:16:09 PM
Oh, really nice, nitinnun. Tons of "balance" in that message. Geez.
*extends other middle finger*
there. now they are BOTH up.
i have balanced one middle finger, with the other middle finger.
and the balance is complete!
Blossom Goodchild UPDATE!
9.Ok â€Ã,¦ I’ve tuned in ... Lets get straight to it if that suits?
Indeed. We wish to announce that in the coming days we no longer shall tolerate the misconceptions that are being branded around your networks.
Um ... need to intervene here â€Ã,¦ I would have thought that you were way above worrying about that kind of thing and that you were already very accustomed to this kind of behavior from those who are not only still asleep but have the covers firmly over their heads it seems.
This may be so Blossom and yet we feel the need to express our dismay at the lack of respect for one another.
With due respect (not lack of you understand) if you are coming into â€Ã...“OURâ€Ã, planetary vibrations that might be something you have to get used to!!
We have much concern for how our planned visit shall be received and interpreted. We find it of great importance that it is known that we are of TRUTH and yet there are many that are disputing of this fact.
Surely you knew this would be so?
Not in the way that it has been presented. It appears that many more than we anticipated are under the influence of a book that has been contorted to suit the higher-archy of the period of when it was written and re written throughout your ages.
How we are agog in shock regarding how little one listens to their inner TRUTH and OBEYS the indoctrination of words.
To all those who consider us to be of a lesser Light we have something to say to you.
OOHHHâ€Ã,¦ I can feel quite a strength behind whatever it is that is about to be uttered forthâ€Ã,¦ go for it guys â€Ã,¦.
Within the nation that is known as the Star Nation we know only of acceptance of our fellow beings. Whatever agenda they may have â€Ã,¦ we acknowledge their place and their part in the Grand DIVINE Scheme. We do not pull apart and rebuke others TRUTHS. We allow for TRUTHS of the individual mind set to be just that.
We ask you to search your souls each and every one of you and listen to the TRUTH it can reveal to you. If you TRULY listen â€Ã,¦ then you would surely awaken to the fact that what is undeniably a mistruth has been ruling your planet for many time frames of your existence.
IT IS TIME TO BEGIN AT THIS NEW BEGINNING WE BRING IN WITH US. WIPE YOUR SLATES CLEANâ€Ã,¦ ALL WHO RESIDE UPON YOUR GLORIOUS PLANET EARTH.
START AGAIN â€Ã,¦ THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY WE ARE PRESENTING YOU.
No more shall you weep into the cups of destruction. You shall be presented with an idea that if fully comprehended will be a way out of the quagmire that you have immersed so deeply into.
We come to offer you a way out. A way forward.
A WAY HOME!
For those who chose to take it, it shall be of great pleasure.For those who KNOW they are to take it â€Ã,¦ gently nowâ€Ã,¦ persuade those who walk the other way to join us. Be not brutal in your insistence. Be of LIGHT HEART and good cheer â€Ã,¦ then they shall feel the warming of their hearts and be allowed to follow only that which they know of to be welcoming and of TRUE LOVE.
There appears to be much talk of deception and that it shall come from us â€Ã,¦ how deeply unconnected from the souls TRUTH have many of your world allowed themselves to become?
Dearest souls â€Ã,¦ how can your own TRUTH lie to you? Ask yourself that when ever you are doubting.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO LIE TO THE SOUL SELF. IT SIMPLY CANNOT BE DONE. Therefore we beseech you to follow the Truth in your heart. You will know then of who we are and why we come to intervene.And as the days unfold after our initial visit, it shall be made perfectly clear that we are who we say we are. There can be no denying of that. Of that we are perfectly clear.
WE BRING YOU MESSAGES OF HOPE and yet they are turned into FEAR.
WE BRING YOU MESSAGES OF LIGHT and we watch as they are transformed into dark.
WE BRING YOU MESSAGES OF PEACE and yet they are turned into confusion.
WE SAY THIS TO YOU FELLOW HEARTS ........... WHEN WE APPEAR IN YOUR SKIES ON OCT 14TH THERE CAN BE NO DENIAL OF WHO WE ARE IN THE TRUTH OF ALL THAT IS DIVINE.
Got to say â€Ã,¦ you must be getting nearer â€Ã,¦ maybe just round the corner â€Ã,¦ for the connection is so much stronger. HOW TRULY MAGNIFICENT THIS ALL IS. And you picked me to get the ball rolling â€Ã,¦ WHAH!!!
Looking at other forums blossom childs message rings true at the moment you can see how people are desperately trying to justify what it means if they do see a ship, and alot of these comments are negatively trying to transform its meaning either its project blue beem or they are coming to control us etc.
We have a habbit of thinking the worst of a good situation because its what we are used to and have been programmed to think this way by our own society. When you look into the eyes of a killer or you see them on TV you can usually know what kind of person they are from the feelings you get from them. I think we need only apply this to seeing a light ship in the sky. If it were a hologram I doubt you would get much of a feeling from it, maybee it would be like watching a big filmed UFO on a huge tv screen.
Howdy Shooter001,
Well, we have certainly seen that here, haven't we. We see a few that understand this event and embrace it. Then we see some that, through whatever emotional mechanism, berate, ridicule, and deny that this coming event could even be a possibility. Like Blossom stated all you have to do is open you heart, and ask your higher self "what is going on here"? You own spirit is not going to lie to you. But, then again, that is the trouble. We live in a society in which denying the spirit and GOD is commonplace. I chose the less traveled path. My spirit guides me, not vice versa. I am a spirit first and a animal body second. I think with my mental mind, and not the physical brain. Obviously, I am surrounded by people who deny that they have a mind and only use their brains. This is not difficult to comprehend. And I am sure that there are people waiting to ridicule this statement as well. I know they do so out of fear of the unknown. What the Galactic Federation is bring to us is a chance to restart life here as life was intended to be lived. Yet, some would forfeit this opportunity without having even experienced it because they believe their life here is good already, and they do not want to change. This amounts to laziness. It takes effort to change. And, yes to change our planet for the better will take a significant amount of work, but it will be worth it in so many unimaginable ways...
Blessed Be...
Hi guys,
My take is that we as humans only really experience our intuition as a surprise. We don't know how to control our brains - minds enough to stop the silly talk and let the intuition flow.
If we did, we would all be hearing these beings ourselves.
We hide ourselves from ourselves. And with that kind of deception going on on the internal planes, how could we ever expect to be able to discern the truth from another?
Add to that the mirror effect. By that I mean we are mirroring emotions to each other (partly because we are so debilitated by our own self deception) and we see lying and cheating in each other which is only mirroring our own lying and cheating to ourselves.
It is a tight little box we have made around ourselves.
It is a bit discouraging to hear that this group had underestimated our levels of incapacity.
Yikes, this is ou. Thank you (is it shooter001?) for opening this up.
I even think, In a way this is related to the reasons we cannot come to overunity solutions.
thank you,
jeanna
in that message, blossom goodchilds paragraphs, are
in that channeled message, blossom goodchilds paragraphs feel COMPLETELY different, than the "recieved" paragraphs.
2 different people are speaking, in that channeled message.
blossoms paragraphs are long winded and pointless.
the others paragraphs have "sharpness" and "relevancy", that blossom lacks.
blossom talks as if blatant disrespect for others, is how this planet should be?
and she takes 100 words to say, what can be said in 8 words?
blossoms brain is useless, accept as a relay for whoever is sending her information.
unless someone needs a random fluff generator that walks on 2 legs, and doesn't rust in the rain.
I think your point here is supposed to be positive in that blossom is demonstrating 2 independent personalities.
On a side note if anyone missed or wants to listen to the radio show interview of Blossom here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei8C4XC0u78.
Hello i live in Michigan...now common sense says to me that this is bogus... :D
now with the size of this ship i would expect that anyone with a 6-inch telescope would be able to see it..
do you know where the ship would be in the sky? coordinates and magnitude if possible?
On the 14th of October is a full moon. So the full moon will be their ship of light? or is that just coincidence? Not wanting to doubt but....maybe they should of picked a new moon date to show themselves.
Yes in reply to crash_uni8 If your 6inch telescope can see beyond the third density which our scientists have come to believe there are multiple densities then i guess you could see them on the forth or fifith dimension. However we are at present in 3rd density so when they shift to 3rd you will see them.
Also on a side note did you know an atom uses around only 6% of space matter, that means our bodies comprise of 94% of empty space. I wonder what the 94% of space we can not see consists of?
i'm saying that she really is channeling information from the space hippies.
but that that is the only thing that makes her worth listening too.
because otherwise, her brain is a trainwreck (supported by her talk of mental disease, in that interview).
after the first 90 seconds of that boring, irrelevant, low sound-quality interview, i wanted to claw my ear drums out.
but i somehow forced myself to listen to it for 5 minutes, before finally closing the window.
why would you bother to post an interview like that?
are you trying to torture us, shooter?
Quote from: crash_uni8 on September 21, 2008, 06:45:02 PM
Hello i live in Michigan...now common sense says to me that this is bogus... :D
now with the size of this ship i would expect that anyone with a 6-inch telescope would be able to see it..
do you know where the ship would be in the sky? coordinates and magnitude if possible?
the ship will be 2,000 miles long (as wide as the moon), and will stay parked in the troposphere (9 Kilometers above the surface, or something).
a 2,000 mile wide object, placed 9 kilometers above the ground, will block out the sky, to anyone standing under it.
they also want to blanker the atmosphere with many smaller ships.
so that no matter where you are standing on earth, you will be able to see at least one smaller ship.
these smaller ships will relay the telepathic messages, sent out by the 2,000 mile wide ship.
Well i was going to record and post it myself but found it not very constructive and i too switched it off. I just thought it would be good as a point of reference and background for people to get an insight into channels as I already have this experience and some may not.
Quote from: shooter001 on September 21, 2008, 06:54:14 PM
Yes in reply to crash_uni8 If your 6inch telescope can see beyond the third density which our scientists have come to believe there are multiple densities then i guess you could see them on the forth or fifith dimension. However we are at present in 3rd density so when they shift to 3rd you will see them.
Also on a side note did you know an atom uses around only 6% of space matter, that means our bodies comprise of 94% of empty space. I wonder what the 94% of space we can not see consists of?
Hm. I thought it was supposed to be a gigantic ship, totally obvious & visible to the naked eye. Won't we be able to just look up and see it? (At least in Alabama)
Quote from: madsen on September 21, 2008, 07:06:17 PM
Hm. I thought it was supposed to be a gigantic ship, totally obvious & visible to the naked eye. Won't we be able to just look up and see it? (At least in Alabama)
Yes we will be able to look up and see it because its shifting to our density for us to see it for 3 days. So get your camera ready, or video cam. Also from some other channels they say we will also see thousands of many smaller craft in the sky to see. I don't know if anyone else has dreams similair to me but I have dreams of this and wake up disapointed that it was just a dream. Hopefully its a dream of our future GET READY:)
Quote from: shooter001 on September 21, 2008, 07:24:32 PM
I don't know if anyone else has dreams similair to me but I have dreams of this and wake up disapointed that it was just a dream. Hopefully its a dream of our future GET READY:)
Shooter
Maybe it was not just a dream.
If you believe that you have a soul or a non physical part of self that lives on after physical death.
What would your soul be doing when you sleep ? Does it seem wise to assume your soul needs sleep just like your physical?
Does it seem wise to assume that the a non physical part of you would just sit and wait until you woke up each morning?
gary
pleiadians have visited me in my dreams, atleast 3 times in the last 2 years.
i couldn't see much of anything. but i could hear them speaking.
i could hear their thoughts and feelings too.
in all 3 cases, they had lots of energy and positive emotions, in their voices.
their voices sounded nothing short of angelic.
you would pay good money, just to listen to one of them read from the phone book.
their voices sounded that pleasing.
i felt unconditional love and forgiveness, from the male pleiadian in the first dream.
he told me that anything in the universe, could be forgiven. no matter how big a mistake it was.
and the feeling of it was so great, that it could make hitler cry.
the female pleiadian in the second dream, was indirectly showing me things.
she left, right as i realized that she was there.
the female pleiadian in the third dream, was full of happiness and joy. and she was showing me positive things from my childhood.
with her, i felt emotions that i had not felt, since i was a child. and i realized that she was often influencing me, when i was a child.
all 3 of them ended the dream, when i became conscious enough in the dream, to realize that they were people.
because i have negative emotional reflexes towards other people.
due to the endless emotional abuse that has been dealt to me, by others over my life.
so congradu-fucking-lations, world.
you have damaged my soul so badly with YOUR needless bullshit, that i cannot even stand the presence of people who radiate goodness, love, and forgiveness, in my own fucking dreams.
Quote from: shooter001 on September 21, 2008, 07:24:32 PM
Yes we will be able to look up and see it because its shifting to our density for us to see it for 3 days. So get your camera ready, or video cam. Also from some other channels they say we will also see thousands of many smaller craft in the sky to see. I don't know if anyone else has dreams similair to me but I have dreams of this and wake up disapointed that it was just a dream. Hopefully its a dream of our future GET READY:)
Cool. Thanks :)
Quote from: nitinnun on September 21, 2008, 08:31:12 PM
you have damaged my soul so badly with YOUR needless bullshit, that i cannot even stand the presence of people who radiate goodness, love, and forgiveness, in my own fucking dreams.
Nitinnun
Sorry ........ a soul can't be damaged . It is pure life force . it is life itself.
The reason that you got disconnected from them as soon as you realized that they were people
has nothing to do with your soul . It has everything to do with your sense if physical self.
It has everything to do with how you feel about your self
When you became aware enough with your physical mind to know that they were people you subconsciously rejected the whole idea that you could be talking to someone like that.
Why would the pleiadians care about us?
Why would they have been talking to you anyway?
If your soul was damaged why would they talk to you only until you recognised them ?
To me the answer to these questions is simple.
Your soul is a bright and vibrant as their souls are.
They are observing life from a higher perspective ( higher density) so they can see more of your soul than you can. .
We have been taught all of our lives that we are these little physical mortal things that crawl around on this little planet for a short time then die.
As these little mortal things we can be the victims of almost anything .
We are taught that life happens TO us.
In truth .........WE ARE LIFE .................. our lives are something we choose .
If you look behind the beliefs of most high achievers you will find similar truths
Thoughts become things.
You become what you think about all day long.
The law of attraction states that what you focus on is drawn to you .
The law of Karma states that what you send out to others comes back to you.
If you wish to remain feeling like a victim ...........keep focusing on being a victim.
If you wish to keep feeling like you are emotionally abused by others make sure that you hand out at least your fare share of emotional abuse .
As you sow . so shall you reap .
one final word about souls .
Although a soul can't be damaged or hurt that does not mean that all souls are at the same level.
The spiritual universes are much larger than the physical universes . souls can be on any of many different levels.
When a very advanced soul chooses to incarnate here on earth they usuallly don't incarnate into
what you might call a heavenly life. An easy life here is for souls that are less experienced .
The more advanced souls tend to incarnate here to try to help with particular missions .
These souls tend to incarnate into lives with many problems to overcome. Each problem is a chance to grow spiritually. The combined experiences give him or her the inner conviction to more onward and upward .
Often the turning point in the lives of these great souls is when they become aware enough to stop focusing on being a victim and start working on doing the things that they incarnated here to do .
When they find what they incarnated here to do it is always about helping others in some way.
Have your found your mission yet?
gary
your assessment is grossly inaccurate, resonance man.
because you do not know me,
you do not know my emotions,
and you do not know what happened in the dreams.
you tried your best to understand, with the limited information that you had.
but you are grossly inaccurate anyways.
allow me to provide the details,
that your decision making process,
does not know of:
>--------DREAM ONE:
* suddenly, i feel loved and forgiven.
of such unshakable intensity, that it could only come from some kind of angel.
pleiadian number one is standing somewhere around me. and the love is coming to me, from him.
he was telling me important things.
and even showing me things on a a 3D holographic display.
i can barely understand what he is saying.
because it requires so much focus, to make out his words/intent.
* suddenly, i realize that i cannot feel negative emotions!
trying to feel them, is like trying to push against a brick wall.
there is just pressure, but no emotion felt.
* i panic. like a person who just realized that they cannot move their left arm.
at all.
i feel sufficated.
like a person who is trapped inside a well.
and can barely move.
i realize that the pleiadian somewhere beside me, is emotionally limited like this, AT ALL TIMES!
there is only inflexible, fluffy emotions around me.
as if i have suddenly become as emotionally limited, as this pleiadian.
* later on, i realized that this is because their aura's (the magnetic field around their body), were stronger than mine.
that their aura's, were forcing their limited emotional range, upon me!
the brick wall, was because MY aura,
was attempting to feel emotions, which were outside of their emotional range.
their aura was like the narrow well.
and my full emotional range, was like a tree.
my tree fell down their well,
and my branches were broken off, from my trunk!
* i push and push and push.
trying to feel the negative emotions, in a panic.
not because i particularly like the negative emotions, but because i needed THE FREEDOM to feel them.
the environment slowly becomes emotionally mixed.
mixed between the positive feelings of his love and forgiveness for me,
and the negative feelings of my doubt, paranoia, uncertainty, heartbreak, shutdown-of-all-ability-to-outwardly-respond-to-others, and none of you deserve to know what else.
* i was aware enough, to be very interested.
interested that both were existing at the same time, in the same place.
even though they barely meshed together.
* he impatiently says something along the lines of "if you don't stop it, i will send you back".
as if i were a pet dog, that was pissing on his expensive carpet.
or a child that was throwing its food on the walls.
but he somehow said it in a supporting, nurturing, considerate way.
with no scorn or abuse intended towards me.
even though my explosive emotional panic, must have rubbed him the wrong way emotionally.
but i can barely hear his intent, over the sound of my own emotions.
* i reactively respond "i don't care!", to him.
because my emotional trauma had its claws, on my fight or flight reflex.
it is a reflex that i have to consciously control/subdue/overpower, EVERY SECOND THAT ANOTHER PERSON IS AROUND ME.
* everything goes black. i lose unconsciousness.
i instantly wake up in bed.
though the intensely positive emotions from the dream are still there with me physically.
and slowly die down over 2 hours.
>--------DREAM TWO:
* i am standing on the sidewalk.
there is a kitten trapped on top of a steel street light.
i can hear it meowing for help.
* i wasn't conscious enough to question how a kitten could dig its claws into a steel pole, to climb it.
i just knew that that kitten was in danger, and i felt deep compassion for it.
* after a few minutes of considering what to do, i conclude that there is nothing i can do.
because once again, my conscious mind is barely active. and i lack access to my normal creativity.
i sadly give up, and walk away. even though it breaks my heart to abandon the the kitten, when it is in trouble.
* suddenly, i am standing in front of a tall goddess figure.
she is saying something that she thinks/feels, is very important too me.
i feel hesitance from her, as she is saying it. as if she is a shy child.
once again, i cannot focus well enough, to understand what she is saying to me.
in fact, i can barely see her appearance either.
i can just tell that she is taller than me, is wearing something white, and there is some "demeter, goddess of the harvest" impression about her.
* my instant reaction is:
ORGANIZED RELIGION! BAD!
AUTHORITY FIGURE TELLING ME WHAT TO DO! BAD!
* my instant reflex to her is:
YOU CONDESCENDING SACK OF BIBLE-SHIT!
DON'T TELL ME WHAT THE HELL TO DO WITH MY LIFE!
REMOVE YOUR VILE LIES FROM MY PRESENCE, YOU MONSTER!
but this was just a general intent/reflex from me.
because i lacked enough consciousness, to form true details.
because i was even less conscious in this dream, than i was in the first dream.
* i instantly feel disappointment and hurt, come from the tall goddess figure.
my instant response, was to feel sympathy for her.
because her feelings were hurt, and i could feel them hurting.
* the intent that i directed at her just a moment before, was a reflex to the stimuli.
it was not genuine spite for her.
but it hurt her feelings anyway.
just like nasty intent hurts my feelings, even when the intent is not because of me.
or even directed at me. because it was really directed at someone else.
* it was at this exact moment, that i realized that i was standing in front of pleiadian number 2.
and that what happened was a complete disaster.
* in the next moment, i felt deep regret, at what had just happened.
i felt very deep sadness, from both me and her.
* i asked her not to go.
i quickly start to beg her not to go.
the sadness quickly becomes as crushing as a mountain.
* but everything goes black anyway.
and i lose consciousness.
>--------DREAM THREE:
* i am standing in the back yard, of my childhood home.
i moved out of it, when i was 17.
this house was the only place where i ever truly felt "at home".
it was where most of the happiness and wonder in my childhood, happened.
i wonder why i am standing here. because i cannot thing of any relevant reason, for why i would be here. other than for the sake of very faded memories.
* suddenly, i notice the "presence" of a woman.
but i cannot tell exactly where she is.
* the woman tells me what a nice house it was.
because it is one of those older, fancy houses, that is made of elegant wood.
it was so fancy back in its day, that it used to be the city hall. even though it is no bigger than a normal house.
the woman says a bunch of other flattering things that were meant to sound nice.
but as usual, i couldn't focus enough to make out most of her words meaning.
* all while she was saying this, i felt the most positive, dazzling, loving, happy, joyous emotions from her.
these emotions were both in the musical tone of her voice, and coming from her mind itself.
i realized that her emotions in front of me, were the EXACT same emotions that "i" used to feel, as a child!
but the emotions that she RADIATED in front of me right now,
were twice as strong as the most intense of my positive emotions, when i was a child!
these emotions of her, weren't even because of anything special.
they seemed to be coming too her, because she summoned them at will!
as if these were her normal, every day emotions!
* her voice sounded/felt, like it might as well have belonged to an angel.
she "sounded" like a 25 year old woman.
despite the unearthy emotions in her voice, and the inhuman clearness/strength in her voice.
* at the same time, i somehow "felt" a mother-like attitude from her, towards me.
later on, i realized that it must have been because she watched/influenced me often, when i was a child.
because she eventually came to see me as her child. because she spent so much time around me.
and that some of the emotions that i felt then as a child, were actually "her" emotions, coming to me.
* while all of this was happening right in front of me, i felt 2 things.
i felt some of her joy/happiness/love.
and it was identical to how i felt in my youth.
i felt overjoyed. as if i were right where i belonged.
after having lost it, and trying despirately to find it again for so many years.
i felt that if i could just stay here, than i would never need anything again.
yet be completely happy.
* yet at the same time:
i felt annoyed.
because her emotions were too sickly sweet.
like overly sugar frosting on a cake. that you just know is going to give you diabetes.
i felt deep embarassment.
like most people do, when they are reminded of things from their childhood.
likely because we associate childhood with a lack of understanding, a lack of ability to do anything, and utter vulnerability.
i felt darker emotions, which to this day i cannot identify.
although these indistinct emotions felt very similar,
to what i feel from from the people in this forum,
when they mock/reject the october 14th flyover prediction.
* in the next moment, i felt that old, familiar paralyzing emotion.
of hesitancy, fear, dread, and expectation of unspeakable levels of emotional pain.
that swells up in me, whenever another person is around me.
that has been beaten into me, cut into me, and burned into me over the years, by the poisonous actions/emotions/intent, countless poisonous people.
sort of like the poisonous emotions and intent that i feel, from some of the UTTER ASSHOLES, in this thread.
* i have to struggle against this emotion, every second that other people are physically around me.
it threatens to completely paralyze me externally.
preventing me from responding to others in any way.
or even allow me to move my body, period.
it is very similar to expecting to be burnt by an extremely hot iron.
yet not being able to do anything about the hot iron.
except to strain against the reality of the hot iron.
as if that will protect you one damned bit from it.
* in the next moment, i felt mortal dread.
because at that moment,
i realized that the above emotion,
was even hurting me here, in this place!
because i realized that if that damnable emotion that has plagues since grade school could hurt me here in front of HER, that it could hound me ANYWHERE!
because this emotion, was permenantly burned into my soul itself!
and i will never be free from it!
* in the next moment, i fought with all of my existance, to deny the insidious paralysis.
to suppress it.
to control it.
to defeat it.
to prevent it from ruining THIS moment, with HER.
which i had wanted so badly, for as long as i can remember.
like it has ruined every other possibility,
of my ever being emotionally close,
to another human being.
even to friends and family, who it kept me from!
but as usual, it was no use.
it slowly crept into me. like blood creeping into a bucket of water.
slowly it built up in my mind. like water pressure inside a can.
my emotional state slowly degraded,
into exactly what had happened, in the two dreams before this dream.
* at some point during this, the woman had stopped talking.
i'm not sure, but:
i think i felt hesitancy from her.
i think i felt horror from her.
as if she was seeing her pet kitten get hit by a car.
and was locked into that very moment, of seeing it get hit.
i think i felt deep concern coming from her.
as if "i" were her kitten, getting hit by a car.
* at that moment, i was under extreme emotional pressure.
i knew that i was going to lose her. exactly like i lost the other two pleiadians.
i knew that there wasn't a damned thing that i could do to stop it.
and it was so incredibly unfair, that i could kill millions of you fucking assholes, out of frustration and revenge for doing this to me.
* at that moment, i think that i "saw" the fuzzy outline, of 2 people dressed in white, sitting at a white table.
as if the emotional intensity was causing me to focus enough, to actually be able to see something.
i "felt" more than "saw", that they were extremely beautiful, alluring people.
like what you feel when you look at an extremely beautiful woman, on a clear and colorful magazine cover.
only this feeling was about 5 times stronger, than the feeling from looking at the magazine cover!
* at this point, i was trying to say something along the lines of:
could you give me a few moment to collect myself?
could we somehow reset this?
because i don't want to lose you this time!
please, please, please don't let this end!
i don't want to lose your emotions again!
it's so unfair!
save me from it!
* but instead, it somehow came out of me as "GO AWAY!"
(to this day, it doesn't feel as if it came from me. it felt as if it was coming from some asshole behind me, using my voice.)
* i instantly felt the disappointment/sadness/hurt.
coming from both me, and them.
because our emotions were somehow one and the same.
as if we were telepathically merged together.
* i tried to somehow save it.
to beg. to plead. to whatever.
to stop the doom.
* but it was no use.
everything went black.
and i lost consciousness.
and they never came back to me again........
and that is the depressing story, of why you fucking evil asshole pricks, have ruined EVERYTHING for me!
my soul is ruined.
everyone who loved me in past lives, can no longer be close to me.
everyone who doesn't know me, will NEVER be able to get close to me.
i don't even know what the hell will happen to me, when i try to reincarnate into my next lifetime.
AND IT IS ALL BECAUSE YOU INSENSITIVE MONSTERS CANNOT KEEP YOUR FUCKING MOUTHS SHUT!
YOU JUST "HAVE" TO SMEAR YOUR INSIDIOUS VENOM ON OTHERS, LIKE A MONKEY THROWS ITS SHIT!
INSTEAD OF HEALING IT, LIKE A REAL PERSON DOES!
OR AT PREVENTING IT FROM HURTING OTHERS, LIKE A PERSON WITH A FUNCTIONAL ETHICS BRAIN-ALGORYTHM DOES!
YOU TORE ME TO PIECES OVER THE YEARS, AND NOW I'M CHAINED TO THE SAME LOW FREQUENCY DOOM AS YOU!
TO REINCARNATE INTO UTTER SHIT, UNTIL I DON'T KNOW WHAT!
You poor sorry sack of shit. Blaming everyone else for your own downfalls.
I hope my post doesn't lead to your suicide, but that would only show how selfish you are if you did that.
You don't give a shit about anyone else but yourself, and if you've shown anything, is the vileness within
your own self.
Pull your fucking head in and get a grip. If this ship is coming, then we certainly don't need your negative
shit pulling us down in the coming crisis. Have you any idea of the term community? Because this bullshit
internet relationship that we keep with each other is highly temporary and what will feed you when there is no more
of this garbage floating around the aether.I don't feel sorry for you one iota, I know that there are countless others out
there who can not even begin to tell you of the woe of their lives, they are just struggling everyday to survive.
I can only warn you for your own self, shape up or ship out.
Quote from: nitinnun on September 22, 2008, 03:49:51 AM
your assessment is grossly inaccurate, resonance man.
because you do not know me,
you do not know my emotions,
and you do not know what happened in the dreams.
you tried your best to understand, with the limited information that you had.
but you are grossly inaccurate anyways.
Nitinun
You are right I don't know you your emotions or your dreams
I may have gotten the details wrong but I stand behind the basics of what I said.
Humanity is in a major transition now .
There are many very advaced souls that have incarnated here to help with this transition.
The details of your dreams really did not change amything for me.
What I wrote was not based on knowing you or the details of this lifetime.
What I wrote was an attempt to get you to look a little deeper and see that you are more than you think you are.
In my last post I asked if you had found your mission yet .
I have found mine. and part of it is trying to help the others that have incarnated here to help with the changes find their missions .
What I wrote was not because of anything you have written here.
I wrote that last post because I recognized something in the energy behind your words.
I recognised the energy of a very advanced soul .......even though your words didn't match that energy at all .
The bottom line of my message to you.
You are a very advanced soul ........ you incarnated here to do great things.
You seem to be stuck in feelings of victimization and anger .
These feelings of being a victim and blaming others are the main thing between you and the happyness that you desire.
I am not asking you to change . or even suggesting that you change.
I am just stating that you are more than you think you are.
How you choose to spend this lifetime is up to you .
gary
Howdy Y'all,
Here is an update from Athena Ashtar of the Ashtar Command. She reminds us again that we are spiritual beings experiencing a physical experience and that for guidance we need to look to our higher selves (spirits or soul) for that is our direct connection to GOD.
Blessed Be...
From Athena Ashtar on the Galactic Friends Website
http://www.galacticfriends.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3441&Itemid=92
Sept. 14, 2008 We have received many questions regarding the possibility of a mass physical landing by extraterrestrials on Earth. In our addressing this topic, there are several factors that we must bring to your attention. With this intention please, allow us to provide a more comprehensive overview.
More than likely, many of these messages about massive, planned landings by extraterrestrials may be originating from the many ET races and their on planet agents who have a personal and self serving agenda in place. They have their Human agents in government, military and other positions who are often unaware that they are serving to promote the take over, disinformation and confusion creating agendas of non Confederation alien races. You also have those who are indeed very conscious of whom they are choosing to align with and why.
Bear in mind that there are nations and leaders on Earth that have long had access to alien technology and who have willingly opened up dialog and global access to these fallen ones long ago. Some nations on Earth have also been flying their own UFOs for decades. Some of these governments in cohorts with these fallen aliens have staged phony abduction scenarios utilizing robotic aliens, real enough in appearance to fool anyone. Why? To create fear in the public mind so that they can then be manipulated and controlled. Those of hidden agenda have even planned to stage their own version of the ascension, return of a "Christ-like" figure and rapture.
However do not worry as their time is rapidly coming to a close and soon they will no longer be able to contact Earth's Humanity.
It has been cautioned by several reputable sources, that the first ones to come and actually attempt a mass landing will be be those of negative alien agenda. Prior to that , they will continually attempt to stage many dramatic events in the sky to grab the attention of Earth's populace.
Thus we counsel your exercising wise discernment before giving your permission for involvement with any extraterrestrial contact.
There is no need to give your power over to anyone---for in truth the Human being has the greater advantage and favored position. Human beings have a Soul, a conscience, and free will. You have the ability to contact and commune with Divine Source directly. You are qualified to ascend at this time through Grace. None of the fallen aliens have any of these things available to them and they are jealous of Earth Humans. The fallen alien races, long ago chose the path of mind and technology at the expense of their loving heart, and in the process lost their Souls---their Higher Divine Component and thus their unique individuality--- such as you each possess. Without a loving heart or Soul they have lost the mechanism for personal connection with the Higher levels and with Source. They have forfeited their access and opportunity for this particular cycle and must await another cycle of creation to q uality for ascension.
This is your opportunity to ascend and these ones are doing all in their power to cause you to trip and fall so you will falter and fail.
Therefore Humanity is collectively at this time facing a major test with regard extraterrestrial contacts. In the past the Adamic race listened to the fallen ones, the Dracos, Reptilians, Greys and other non Adamic seed. They followed, worshipped and bowed down to these alien demi-gods and their many false religions in the process. Human Souls were held prisoners within these lower densities under the domination of these cruel , ungodly alien races.
Helpless slaves, forced to do the bidding of their tyrannical overseers, Human Souls required Divine rescue and salvation, which was accomplished through the mission of Our Most Radiant One, Jesus-Emmanuel- Lord Sananda Kumara and His Advent upon Earth.
Thus the past 2000 year cycle has been all about Humanity's rescue, redemption, and restoration to it's original Divine status and Divine Throne Realm blueprint.
Now again the question is asked of Human kind, who will you choose to heed, follow and serve this time? Will Earth Humans heed, follow and give homage to alien space demi-gods, again or be true to the Living God who dwells within them?
A big red flag to signal a warning sign, is when ever an alien, or off plan et group of aliens claims that they can come and "set those of Earth on the right track" (by implying that Humans have botched the job so badly in managing their planet that now their galactic "creators" must come and take over the Earth and set it right). NO!
That approach is totally judgmental, demeaning and undermining of Humanity's Divine dignity, God given freedom of Soul, personal choice, individuality and will! You have all been given the opportunity and the right to learn self governance through making errors. These errors have created the current state of your planet, the ramifications which require your own collective addressing and rectification.
This is the very reason why genuine Divine assistance is primarily of an invisible nature, directed from Spiritual levels and addressing Humanity upon a Spiritual level.
This is done so that Human beings will not again fall prey to idolatry--which occurs when ever an outer form is adopted and worshipped as a substitute rather than direct communication through Spirit and Truth with the Un manifest Creator.
In no manner do we of the Ashtar Galactic Command desire that any one on Earth follow, worship or give over their individual power, free will and authority to us, nor to any member of the Ashtar Command whether on Earth or above.
We of the Ashtar Galactic Command are but one of many celestial Emissaries and Angelic servers who stand at the Command of The Most Radiant One in serving the Divine plan of the Supreme Most High God and Our Creator.
Another red flag is if any such off planet races claim to have the means to replace Earth's political leaders, overthrow any government, or tempt through supposedly backing any "get rich quick" financial schemes, or offer promises of advanced technology. It can be observed that 99.9% of the time such schemes are promoted only by the dark ones. These promises of "unlimited funds coming to you to do your light work" only cause many Light workers to sit back passively and wait, thereby wasting valuable time.
If you are wise, you will insist that any one who attempts to contact you prove that they are whom they claim to be...insisting that they use the Confederation protocols and greetings. Observe if they come in loving humility and respect, honoring your free will and right to self direction-- major indicators of those of positive intent.
Carefully examine their statements. Do you sense any hidden agenda, of demeaning you in any manner? Is their agenda one of pandering to your ego by attempting to ensnare through promising material gain, power, advanced knowledge or "secret" technology?
Beware; agents of darkness always attempt to distract you from Spirit to focusing upon material forms and conditions which are essentially illusory.
Therefore you have the right and the obligation to discern the motives of anyone who attempts to contact you, both personally and collectively.
Observe, do they honor and respect your Divinity and right to freely live your life on your planet as you choose? Do they violate your free will in any manner? Do they threaten, engender fear, or attempt to manipulate you in any manner whatsoever? If you carefully examine and sincerely ask for Spiritual discernment it will be made clear who you are dealing with.
Some of these lower astral races and their Earth agents are pretty clever in that they even claim that Ashtar is supporting some of these purely material schemes--which we assure you HE IS NOT. Name dropping in an attempt to provide validity to their schemes is another clue. What advanced Ascended Master ever supports a get rich quick scheme of any kind? We don't even use money on other planets, nor will Earth in the fifth dimension.
Know this, that only a Human being, embodied on Earth has legal operational authority on Earth. Even God (Elohim) the Creator God/s--as Spirits are not able to legally operate on Earth. All dominion and authority on Earth was given only to Earth-man. Even God the Creator had to come and be born, as his "son," Jesus, Yeshua in order to operate legally on Earth.
No spirit being without a Human body has legal operational authority to dictate what is to be done on Earth. That most certainly includes those from other planetary civilizations. We can intervene only to prevent total global destruction of a nature that would also jeopardize life upon our spheres.
As for the political and financial arenas on Earth---these are the training grounds whereby Humans learn how to develop into masters. Mankind learns how to Divinely wield personal power, through the Earth system's business, leadership, political, financial and other arenas. Testing involves overcoming the ego's tendencies towards amassing power, wealth or technology for selfish purposes.
Human beings are on Earth to develop into Christ Conscious Masters, not to have anyone from outside rectify their miscreations during their learning process for them--thus depriving them of learning from their own trials and errors.
Above all, in any off planet contacts make certain that these ones state their identity, intention and whom they serve. Observe if they acknowledge that they have come in the Name and Authority of Jesus-Sananda, Our Most Radiant One and the Office of the Christ--with the evidence to back it, by strictly adhering to the protocols of the Order of Melchizedek!
No genuine being of Light will ever have any hesitation in providing an affirmative reply to any of the above diplomatic protocols.
Ongoing information from Ashtar and the Command has been posted on a regular basis within our forums. This stream of current information is communicated as well through Cmdr. Lady Athena's weekly BBS radio shows in addition to her numerous articles, e-mails and phone contacts with commanders from all over the USA and abroad.
Through these and other means we of the Ashtar Galactic Command continually offer sound guidelines to assist Humanity's not falling prey to those of dubious intent.
We very rarely issue directives to focus Humanity's attention upon outer phenomena occurring within the third density skies. Our directives ever emphasize who and what you are as embodiments of Divinity, living eternal lives, here and now. Our counsel is for you to look to no outer source for guidance, but rather to develop your own inner contact in accessing Divine Source.
As pertinent information from the Ashtar Command or from Ashtar, himself, is received, it is immediately made available to our ground crew. No information regarding any planned mass landings by the Ashtar Command has officially been issued, nor is there at present any need for such. However, there are certain areas of the world where there have been landings occurring for decades, sometimes many, and mass sightings snoedel.punt.nl/index.php
Lady Athena - Ashtar-Athena SherAn. CmdrLadyAthena@aol.com
Howdy Y'all,
This is another article I found on the Galactic Friends Website that I found interesting...
Blessed Be...
http://www.galacticfriends.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3437&Itemid=92
Update: We are hearing that a financial meltdown may occur by the end of this month with more shock waves between now and then. This could speed up all actions and bring NESARA's Announcement and decloakings sooner than expected. Dates are only "Windows of Opportunity" according to Ashtar & St Germain, and changes in the dynamic flux field can advance or alter any such linear probabilities. Current Investment banking failures are sending shock waves through the corrupt banking community now.
A special FREE Ashtar-on-the-Road CC will be held tomorrow night and more insight may be forthcoming then.
Today, Thom Hartmann/Air America Radio host, broadcasting from an undisclosed location in Venezula, will be interviewing heads of Mercosur countries--Hugo Chavez, Evo Morales, etc-- as they gather to discuss common interests and security threats.
Thom stated that he is a believer in StarCraft/UFOs and the coming Decloakings may well be the appearance of wiser guardians who have maintained their silence and cloaked presence while the Cabal stonewalls and refuses to step down in spite of clear knowledge that their day in control of this planet has ended. The Galactic Federation has given the go ahead to establishing communications and bringing this 3D Illusion to a joyous conclusion as a joint partnership.
On 9/18, the planet will also be experiencing a GeoMagnetic event at the core of the earth that is called by Metatron, Cdr Soltec, Andromeda Rex and Mother Sekhmet "a recalibration of the core earth magnetic balance" that will bring all of us to greater readiness to experience ascension. It will correct imbalances in our male/female magnetics. We will discuss this during our ConfCall Thursday night.
We have now reached the highest summit ever achieved on this planet, and St Germain says to take some deep breaths and rest before we tobaggon down the far slope supported by NESARA and our Cosmic Spiritual Family. Key events are now fully prepared to publicly demonstrate all that we have been preparing ourselves for through this challenging 'Long Night'. The New Reality is already present and awaiting our stepup in awareness that will come with decloakings and First Contact.
mailto: machube@comcast.net
For case was talking about this spaceship?
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3X5oucqQe4 (http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3X5oucqQe4)
leo48
Everybody has the right to express their own feelings even you.
But your style of language and expression is giving rise to doubt your credibility.
professor
Quote from: Goldsphere on September 22, 2008, 04:22:38 AM
You poor sorry sack of shit. Blaming everyone else for your own downfalls.
I hope my post doesn't lead to your suicide, but that would only show how selfish you are if you did that.
You don't give a shit about anyone else but yourself, and if you've shown anything, is the vileness within
your own self.
Pull your fucking head in and get a grip. If this ship is coming, then we certainly don't need your negative
shit pulling us down in the coming crisis. Have you any idea of the term community? Because this bullshit
internet relationship that we keep with each other is highly temporary and what will feed you when there is no more
of this garbage floating around the aether.I don't feel sorry for you one iota, I know that there are countless others out
there who can not even begin to tell you of the woe of their lives, they are just struggling everyday to survive.
I can only warn you for your own self, shape up or ship out.
Hi
;) ;) i've read all of this sh..t :D sorry for may poor english but i want to ask :
what prophets gona say if aliens dont show up on this date 2008 10 14 ???? :D I think they'll declare another date :D :D +4 years in 2012 :) in 2012 you all happily will be waiting for saiviours from space and in same date you'll get another date :)and so on and so on :D also you'll buy some crapy book or cd with a title "year 2012 1001 ways surviving the end of the world", or you;ll buy some shity starterkit for pyramid which "teleports" you to another dimension or lets you "travel" in time :D :D , or something like that :D
In the end i can tell there wont be any aliens there wont be any Jesus or other sh..t which gona save you from your misery...
regards
gyvulys666
Quote from: gyvulys666 on September 22, 2008, 03:57:10 PM
Hi
;) ;) i've read all of this sh..t :D sorry for may poor english but i want to ask :
what prophets gona say if aliens dont show up on this date 2008 10 14 ???? :D I think they'll declare another date :D :D +4 years in 2012 :) in 2012 you all happily will be waiting for saiviours from space and in same date you'll get another date :)and so on and so on :D also you'll buy some crapy book or cd with a title "year 2012 1001 ways surviving the end of the world", or you;ll buy some shity starterkit for pyramid which "teleports" you to another dimension or lets you "travel" in time :D :D , or something like that :D
In the end i can tell there wont be any aliens there wont be any Jesus or other sh..t which gona save you from your misery...
regards
gyvulys666
lol
resonance man.
this picture, is what i came here to accomplish.
the balance. that gives access to 6D and above.
if a person wants to go higher than 5D,
than they MUST balance their chakra's, to match the proportions on this pyramid.
because the proportions of this pyramid, will make them stable enough, to exist in the highest densities indefinitely.
if the persons chakra's are not in agreement with this pyramid,
then they will crash back down to 5D or below.
possibly causing great harm, as they do so.
it is common, for pleiadians to be weak in the solar plexus and root chakra's.
this is the basis for angels being simple minded, and shunning worldly possessions.
this is also the basis for chaotic good elves.
who laugh and dance and live with little in the woods.
yet shun authority and seriousness. and the bullshit of humans.
the pleiadians permenantly weakened their solar plexus and root chakra's, to avoid being like the reptilians.
the reptilians being OVERLY fixated on the solar plexus and root.
that is why pleiadians have a much narrower emotional range than us. they lack the emotions that those 2 chakra's make possible.
but the pleiadians removed too much of their solar plexus and root.
the result, is that the pleiadians got stuck in the middle of 5D.
being unable to graduate, and go to 6D.
because they were incapable of understanding the neccessary evils, that make existance possible.
when i was a child, i was just like the pleiadians in my dreams.
i was uncompromisingly good and loving, just like them.
when i was just 6 years old, i felt the strongest of unconditonal love, for the entire world.
i would have sacrificed everything that i was, if it meant freeing the world of its countless pains.
its pains, of which i was well aware.
even though normal 6 year olds aren't supposed to understand or care about anything other than toys and friends and playing on the playground.
the pain in this world HURT my heart.
beyond words.
at just 6 years old.
i had been everywhere in this freaking galaxy, over my many lifetimes.
i likely experienced more "types of lives", than 90% of 5D dwellers ever dare to subject themselves to.
i was driven by my intense curiosity, which could match the curiosity of any cat. living or dead.
i was driven by my desire, to finally understand the mysteries that exist above 5D. from which i was barred permenant residence.
i went everywhere, and considered everything.
there was no object, person, thought, emotion, mechanic, dynamic, or pattern, on ANY planet, that i did not stick my nose into.
i spiritually violated ALL of it.
and rarely was there another person, who could keep up with my stamina to ponder things.
let alone stand my intensity, for doing it.
but in the end, the best way to strengthen my solar plexus chakra and root chakra, was to be completely cut off from heart chakra and sacral chakra activity.
because the heart and sacral chakra are about connection with others.
while the solar plexus and root chakra's are about disconnection with others.
and the lessons for understanding these 2 chakra's, DO NOT MESH WELL TOGETHER.
unfortunately for me.
.......i came to this planet, to strengthen my solar plexus chakra.
so that i could become balanced enough, to finally graduate from 5D.
and we all knew that doing so, meant enduring a limited sentence in the purest hell in this galaxy.
i went from being in a completely loving, accepting environment, where everyone loved each other like a best friend.....
to one of the most socially toxic environments on earth.
where hatred, spite, jealousy, viciousness, rejection, fear, random distribution of sheer misery, and worse can be found everywhere in the environment.
and ALL of it has been smeared upon me by snearing fucktards, in this lifetime.
but that is just the normal environment.
and that doesn't count the harm that has been aimed at me by the dark ones, on purpose.
the dark ones who could see the light of my aura very clearly, in this darkest of places.
this very anchor of their power on earth. that my very existance here was corroding.
my growth in the solar plexus has been vast, over the 25 years of my life.
i understand so many things now, that i did not understand when i was still a pleiadian.
things that i did not understand, despite all of my previous experiences.
yet the damage done to my heart and sacral chakra's, has been much greater than my growth.
it was expected that the damage would be healed, when i died and reincarnated elsewhere.
but even if they can close the thousands of open, festering wounds on my soul, there are some things that i doubt i will ever get back.
and i don't know what will happen to me once 4d gets here.
because there is so little of the emotions left, that i started here with.
and because psychological trauma like this, requires reincarnation into a brand new body, to correct.
Nitium
Interesting post .
I can't say that any of it matches anything I know about how life works .
One thing I do know is that we are all shown what we need to be shown .
We are shown what we need to be shown in the way we can best understand it.
Life is a journey.
When we are traveling in the world the directions we follow to a particular destination depend on where we are starting from. It is very possible that if people started from
different parts of a country even though they might be going to the same city one might be going east most of the trip .........the other might have to go west most of the trip .
What is the truth ? Is the true direction to this city east or west?
The journey of life is much more complicated than any trip we could take in the physical world .
Although almost nothing in your post agrees with how I understand life. I can accept it as how you choose to understand life.
gary
"i" don't understand why there is 2 and 3 spaces, between your words.
trust me. the chakra system is where it is at.
most lightworkers seem to support and use it.
and don't believe any extremist who tells you that the light or the darkness is superior.
there are reasons who those people mostly come from 5D.
because 5d is as high as they are allowed to get, with that attitude.
Quote from: nitinnun on September 22, 2008, 07:50:12 PM"i" don't understand why there is 2 and 3 spaces, between your words.
See http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5242.msg118085.html#msg118085
Quote from: nitinnun on September 22, 2008, 07:50:12 PM
there are reasons who those people mostly come from 5D.
because 5d is as high as they are allowed to get, with that attitude.
You seem to speak as if the different densitys are cast in stone.
What is the differences between 3D and 4D
And between 4D and 5D
WHo is preventing these people from getting beyond 5D?
gary
i see. you do the spacing because your brain is mutated.
just mutated in a different way, than my brain is mutated.
the entire universe, is made of light and sound.
the entire universe, is just a hologram!
the universe is a training ground. to teach all of us to be creators.
so that one day we will go off, and create our own universe.
and in it, we will train countless trillions of new souls!
so that they will be be universe-creators too.
it is very much like one bacteria, spawning millions of bacteria!
it just takes longer to do.
so far in this universe, there are 12 "densities".
the higher the density, the more things are energy, and the less things are matter.
(this is possible, because matter is just frozen/compressed energy.
or something.)
the higher the density, the more "pleasant" it is, for the person to live there.
people have talked about a state of sheer bliss, that exists at all times in 5D.
and i can believe it. because i have had small tastes of it.
each of these densities, has lessons in it that must be learned, before you may graduate to the next density up.
for whatever reason, there are being in 5D, who have not fully mastered 1D through 3D.
i think this was programmed/allowed, for practical reasons.
even though it becomes "required" for the student to have their act together, from 6D and up.
the higher the density, the more fun toys you have access to!
i don't know what is different about 1D through 3D.
but in 4D, you gain basic telepathy.
where you can "hear" other peoples thoughts and feelings.
without either of you speaking. or even looking at each other.
in 4D, you also gain the ability to move backwards and forwards through time.
like we can walk through a room.
you may go back in time, choose a different branch of the timeline, and live there.
this allows you to live in the happiest possible timeline. if you so choose.
instead of becoming a doctor, you can go back and become a space-ship engineer instead.
or something like that.
in 5D, you gain the ability to move backwards and forwards through probability.
like we can walk through a room.
this allows you to make the happiest probability happen. if you so choose.
you can alter probability, to make all kinds of whacky things happen.
such as making a bullet fired from a gun 85% likely to hit its target, instead of 20% likely.
probability manipulation combined with time manipulation, is an incredibly potent thing!
in 5D, the detail to your telepathy is increased.
you may speak very clearly with each other, telepathically.
your range of telepathy is also greatly increased.
allowing you to "hear" the thoughts and feelings of others, who might be a mile away. (though i have never read about the exact range.)
starting in the lower 5D, you even get the ability to change your physical appearance, at will!
to such a point, that physical appearance is meaningless, for determining someones genetic traits.
in 6D, there is so much energy, that the very laws of matter and physics around you, are constantly shifting.
they are constantly changing their shape. their attributes.
because they are coming apart at their connections. because the energy is disrupting them.
in 6D, you must constantly shape the reality around you, to make it livable to you.
this also allows you go abuse laws of physics and energy, that we cannot even imagine bending down here in craptastical 3D.
in 6D, telepathy is increased even more. (telepathy increases with every higher density).
you may understand others so clearly and so well with telepathy, that you and your territory might as well be the same mind.
secrets are practically impossible. so forgiveness and understanding are even more important than ever.
7D is the last density, where matter can exist.
the beings there are mostly, but not completely, blobs of energy.
basic laws of reality may easily be bent at will.
in 8D and above, the inhabitants are made of pure infinite energy.
they use entire planets and solar systems as their "body".
they can likely live out in space as nothing but energy for a time, before coming back to the planet.
in 12D, the inhabitants use the entire universe as their body. and they are aware of just about everything major, that is going on.
by the way. the higher the density, the faster time appears to flow by.
so an hour in 3D, would likely seem like a few minutes in 7D.
from
http://projectcamelot.org/index.html
19 September
â€Ã,¢ Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy on Paranexus radio -- 18 September
[PC users right-click and Save As, Mac users option-click]
if you like some freaking news then go to listen to that radio interview, it's summurize pretty well what's cooking with the Illuminatis right now, they try to start war with Iran again, and much much more....solar wind and lost of electricity , pole shift, south-nort magnetic shift etc
October will be a great month indeed
Quote from: nitinnun on September 23, 2008, 04:42:03 AM
i see. you do the spacing because your brain is mutated.
just mutated in a different way, than my brain is mutated.
Mutated is not the word I would use ........but I guess it gets the point across.
I have been changed by the what I have experienced in my quest for understanding.
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the entire universe, is made of light and sound.
the entire universe, is just a hologram!
I agree
Quantum physics teaches that everything is energy.
They are close to the truth. What quantum physics hasn't taken into account is that they are only observing physical energy .
Physical energy is made of energy from the higher densitys. I call it spiritiual energy.
Spirittual energy knows itself.
It is life itself .
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the universe is a training ground. to teach all of us to be creators.
so that one day we will go off, and create our own universe.
and in it, we will train countless trillions of new souls!
so that they will be be universe-creators too.
I am not so sure about this.
I see the physical universe as more like a video game .
The creator is playing a game that is about experiencing being less than all.
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so far in this universe, there are 12 "densities".
the higher the density, the more things are energy, and the less things are matter.
(this is possible, because matter is just frozen/compressed energy.
or something.)
the higher the density, the more "pleasant" it is, for the person to live there.
people have talked about a state of sheer bliss, that exists at all times in 5D.
and i can believe it. because i have had small tastes of it.
each of these densities, has lessons in it that must be learned, before you may graduate to the next density up.
for whatever reason, there are being in 5D, who have not fully mastered 1D through 3D.
i think this was programmed/allowed, for practical reasons.
even though it becomes "required" for the student to have their act together, from 6D and up.
the higher the density, the more fun toys you have access to!
i don't know what is different about 1D through 3D.
but in 4D, you gain basic telepathy.
where you can "hear" other peoples thoughts and feelings.
without either of you speaking. or even looking at each other.
in 4D, you also gain the ability to move backwards and forwards through time.
like we can walk through a room.
you may go back in time, choose a different branch of the timeline, and live there.
this allows you to live in the happiest possible timeline. if you so choose.
instead of becoming a doctor, you can go back and become a space-ship engineer instead.
or something like that.
in 5D, you gain the ability to move backwards and forwards through probability.
like we can walk through a room.
this allows you to make the happiest probability happen. if you so choose.
you can alter probability, to make all kinds of whacky things happen.
such as making a bullet fired from a gun 85% likely to hit its target, instead of 20% likely.
probability manipulation combined with time manipulation, is an incredibly potent thing!
in 5D, the detail to your telepathy is increased.
you may speak very clearly with each other, telepathically.
your range of telepathy is also greatly increased.
allowing you to "hear" the thoughts and feelings of others, who might be a mile away. (though i have never read about the exact range.)
starting in the lower 5D, you even get the ability to change your physical appearance, at will!
to such a point, that physical appearance is meaningless, for determining someones genetic traits.
in 6D, there is so much energy, that the very laws of matter and physics around you, are constantly shifting.
they are constantly changing their shape. their attributes.
because they are coming apart at their connections. because the energy is disrupting them.
in 6D, you must constantly shape the reality around you, to make it livable to you.
this also allows you go abuse laws of physics and energy, that we cannot even imagine bending down here in craptastical 3D.
in 6D, telepathy is increased even more. (telepathy increases with every higher density).
you may understand others so clearly and so well with telepathy, that you and your territory might as well be the same mind.
secrets are practically impossible. so forgiveness and understanding are even more important than ever.
7D is the last density, where matter can exist.
the beings there are mostly, but not completely, blobs of energy.
basic laws of reality may easily be bent at will.
in 8D and above, the inhabitants are made of pure infinite energy.
they use entire planets and solar systems as their "body".
they can likely live out in space as nothing but energy for a time, before coming back to the planet.
in 12D, the inhabitants use the entire universe as their body. and they are aware of just about everything major, that is going on.
by the way. the higher the density, the faster time appears to flow by.
so an hour in 3D, would likely seem like a few minutes in 7D.
I don't disagree with any of this .
My understanding is similar .
I just don't think in terms of numbers when talking about the different densitys.
You have a vague list of what is what on the different densitys. This is as good of an explanation as I have ever got.
I just don't see the divisions between the different densitys. At times it is helpful to refer to the next realm or the next density, but in general I see it as one energy field.
It is kind of like light. light at one frequency has particular characteristics. at some frequencys we call these characteristics color. Although it is sometimes helpful to refer to a particular light as red or blue there is in reality no place where the light stops being one color and starts being another.
We create the divisions by defining the colors.
Sticking with the light analigy . I am not willing to say that there are only 12 colors of light. ( 12 densitys ) I am thinking that the densitys are infinite. but we can never see more than a certian distance ahead .
gary
Howdy Y'all,
OK, there is something cool up in the sky today. There are 4 objects that are hanging at extreme altitude above me. Three of them are lower than the forth. I saw these object moving from the south and started watching them. They moved to a position slightly north of me and are holding position. One is a sharp red hue the others more whitish. The forth object appears to be a star (looks like a star) but I do not usually see stars during the day time. The three other objects are larger and brighter than stars would normally be. No these are not aircraft. I live in the vicinity of three airports and I watch aircraft all day long. No it is not the moon, it is also visible but to the southeast of the other four objects. It could be radiosondes or balloons, but they would not more to an area and then hold their station. This is exciting, but I haven't identified them so I don't really know what they are. However, their movement is peculiar for terrestrial aircraft. OK, I go keep watching now...
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all,
I went back out to look some more, but the objects were gone. Funny thing, all the aircraft traffic was gone also. The sky is empty. The only other time that I have seen the sky completely empty was just after 9/11. OK, this is getting weird...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 23, 2008, 10:33:46 AM
Howdy Y'all,
OK, there is something cool up in the sky today. There are 4 objects that are hanging at extreme altitude above me. Three of them are lower than the forth. I saw these object moving from the south and started watching them. They moved to a position slightly north of me and are holding position. One is a sharp red hue the others more whitish. The forth object appears to be a star (looks like a star) but I do not usually see stars during the day time. The three other objects are larger and brighter than stars would normally be. No these are not aircraft. I live in the vicinity of three airports and I watch aircraft all day long. No it is not the moon, it is also visible but to the southeast of the other four objects. It could be radiosondes or balloons, but they would not more to an area and then hold their station.
Cool ......I wish I could see them
Quote
This is exciting, but I haven't identified them so I don't really know what they are. However, their movement is peculiar for terrestrial aircraft. OK, I go keep watching now...
Blessed Be...
This hit me as funny .
:D ;D
If you can't identify them doesn't that make them UFOs?
:)
gary
Quote from: z.monkey on September 23, 2008, 10:44:12 AM
Howdy Y'all,
I went back out to look some more, but the objects were gone. Funny thing, all the aircraft traffic was gone also. The sky is empty. The only other time that I have seen the sky completely empty was just after 9/11. OK, this is getting weird...
Blessed Be...
They must have shown up on radar , and air traffic got diverted.
Keep watching I have heard that B2s often show up after ufo sitings .
gary
Howdy Resonanceman,
Yeah, gotta start carrying the camera with me. The objects are gone and the aircraft traffic is back. It will probably get chalked up as another "unexplained" incident. Grrrr.... The though occurred to me as I was watching maybe I was having a "flash" of 5th density awareness. I have been consciously trying to expand my mental awareness and have expressed a desire to see the ship or ships, so maybe this was a little breakthrough into higher awareness, or consciousness. Now everyone thinks that I am koocoo pops because I am seeing "alien ships". I told my wife about it, she probably feels the same way. I expect the big dudes in white coats with the straight jacket to come and get me any minute now...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 23, 2008, 11:08:32 AM
Howdy Resonanceman,
Yeah, gotta start carrying the camera with me. The objects are gone and the aircraft traffic is back. It will probably get chalked up as another "unexplained" incident. Grrrr.... The though occurred to me as I was watching maybe I was having a "flash" of 5th density awareness. I have been consciously trying to expand my mental awareness and have expressed a desire to see the ship or ships, so maybe this was a little breakthrough into higher awareness, or consciousness. Now everyone thinks that I am koocoo pops because I am seeing "alien ships". I told my wife about it, she probably feels the same way. I expect the big dudes in white coats with the straight jacket to come and get me any minute now...
Blessed Be...
I don't think that you had a flash of 5D That would not explain the air travel being gone.
I was shown a bunch of ships once . I think it could be called seeing a flash of 5D.
There was something about a bunch of ships visiting us years ago. ( in 5D )
I was reading about it and I got a very warm feeling about it.
I went outside and looked up. for a second the sky was FULL of ships.
It was just a flash. I saw them, then I didn't .
WHen I saw them I was aware that they were both there and not there. I could both see them and I could see through them .
Somehow what I saw was different than them being transparent.
gary
Howdy Resonanceman,
Yeah, your right, it probably wasn't a flash of 5th density because there was a 3rd density response. Just now I was watching several very high altitude aircraft flying in irregular patterns over the area. They seemed to be spraying something. They had a plume coming off the trailing edge of the aircraft, like smoke. Not regular condensation trails like I see all the time. They were white or silver aircraft which shone brightly in the reflected sunlight. Today is becoming damn peculiar. I watch aircraft traffic all the time. There are regular flight paths depending on the prevailing winds. There are three airports which have intersecting flight paths in this area. I can always identify the traffic by its flightpath and the types of planes on these flight paths. There is hardly ever any high altitude traffic because this is a major hub and the through traffic avoids this hub because of all the close to the ground traffic. Today I have seen both unidentified traffic, high altitude traffic flying unusual patterns and no traffic. Damn peculiar indeed...
Edit: There is something that I forgot about. Yesterday I contacted Commander Athena Ashtar of the Ashtar Command. Maybe this was their way of acknowledging my communication...
Blessed Be...
if they briefly brought YOU up to 5D, than you could see them for that one second.
likely a short burst of 5D-level energy. or something.
or maybe THEY briefly came down to 3D, for one second.
because they are ornery enough to do something like that.
ike seriously damaged the infrastructure and economy.
the banks were going to go down before the bailout.
the bailout itself, will very likely destroy anything. for a few reasons.
(congress wants to pass the biggest bailout in recorded history, by the time that congress gets out of session on friday!)
(then they will start campaigning for re-election, after dumping 700 billion in debt, onto the taxpayers!)
the illuminati want cause some kind of disaster, suspend the elections, declare martial law, and do who knows what after.
it is only 3 weeks until the flyover.
they must have known that this was all going to happen, which is why they chose the date that they chose.
who knows what garbage will happen, between now and the election.
Banking problem solution. Tear up all the mortagages everywhere. That should spure the economy. The flimflam men can retain their health club memberships only if the aerobic exercise machines are grid connected so for once these bullshit salesmen can contribute to society. Putting a golden parachute contract out in front of their nose should get them there induction generators whirring. Meanwhile the time of the common man can be better spent in the advancement of the human race.
Quote from: z.monkey on September 23, 2008, 11:45:46 AM
Edit: There is something that I forgot about. Yesterday I contacted Commander Athena Ashtar of the Ashtar Command. Maybe this was their way of acknowledging my communication...
Z Monkey
My feeling about this is there is more to it than just that one contact ..... but I do think the the message is something like " We are showing you a few ships to show you that you are working in the right direction "
From my higher self I got that the Athena contact was just one of the many things that lead to the display .
gary
Quote from: resonanceman on September 23, 2008, 03:21:53 PM
Z Monkey
My feeling about this is there is more to it than just that one contact ..... but I do think the the message is something like " We are showing you a few ships to show you that you are working in the right direction "
From my higher self I got that the Athena contact was just one of the many things that lead to the display .
gary
Z Monkey
I tried to move on to another topic.....my higher self stayed on this one.
I have a question from my higher self.
Just to be clear. Here is a little bit about what I understand my higher self to be.
I believe that we are ALL much more than we can understand from the perspective of the 3D universe .
I believe that our physical bodies are the end of a very long sting of life.
I believe that we ALL have bodies living on MANY different densitys at the same time.
I don't believe that most of our guardian angels are others that love us, although some are.
I believe that most of our guardian angels are US in other densitys .
The question is .
Have you been receiving any telepathic communications from any of the ships?
If not ....... WHY NOT?
It is very clear to me that they are communicating with you .
It may not be at a conscious level yet but it is there.
( Interesting point. I had to go back and add the " yet " to the last sentence before my higher self was satisfied with it )
gary
Howdy Resonanceman,
Well, yes I guess is the official answer but no not in the way you would expect. In this thread on page 2 reply #49 I explained how this year began with very strange occurrences. Then in this thread reply #366 I stated that I was in contact with the Galactic Federation through my higher self. It doesn't happen like a conversation, at least with my physical (3rd density) body. They, uh, talk through me? When I write responses concerning the Galactic Federation the information flows from my higher self who is in contact with them. I physically type the words and understand the diction and grammar of what I am typing, but I have to go back and reread what I typed to understand what it is saying, if that makes any sense. I can communicate with my higher self just fine, but there is an impasse between my physical self and the members of the Galactic Federation which my higher self has to make up for. This could be a language barrier where my higher self is interpreting. If you go reread this entire thread I think that you can tell where I am physically relating to the forum, and where my higher self is bringing information from the Galactic Federation. You were there when this first started Resonanceman. You have been in this thread from the beginning. You should be able to see the difference.
We do occupy multiple densities simultaneously. I am not sure how Planes of Existence relate to Densities but as a human you have 4 bodies that I am aware of. The Physical body, 3rd density made of hard physical atoms. The Etheric Body that holds the energetic spirit and the chakras. The Astral Body which is the part which is connected to the All of the Universe, it allows you to be One with the Universe. Finally the Mental Body, your soul, your spirit, the place where your egoic knowledge is stored. The Mental Body is the I AM that I AM, the higher self, the spark of divinity that is you! Advanced beings are able to function on all four Planes of Existence consciously, and there is communication between all four Planes of Existence as well. Before this year I would have to say that I had very limited communication with my higher self, my Mental Body. Now it is quite active...
Blessed Be...
A reply to Gary and Z-m,
Or it could be a time event.
In both of your cases, your consciousness could have peeked through the time fabric and seen what you saw.
just another possibility.
I thought I'd throw it out. (loving time travel as I do! ;)
jeanna
i receive information from "something", very frequently.
i've been making excellent progress,
in my understanding of zero point energy physics,
as a result of this help.
i'm wondering how i can milk more information, out of the connection.
so that i can discover even more information.
Howdy Jeanna, Nitinnun,
Jeanna, are familiar with the concept of vertical time? Advanced humans supposedly can traverse vertical time and teleport themselves anywhere and anytime in the physical universe at will. I would be like you are Dr. Who and could go anywhere in space time, except that you would not need the TARDIS.
Nitinnun, What you desire is communion with your higher self. When you can access your Mental Body you can access any information about anything. There is a concept that orthodox scientists call "remote viewing" where they explore and do research psychically. To some one initiated in the concepts of spirituality this is called communion with your higher self and astral travel. This is not much different than the concept I presented for Jeanna above. By getting to know and understand you higher self opens a doorway which allows you the powers of the higher self. Being able to traverse vertical time and teleportation are but a couple. You can also access the universal mind of GOD, where everything is known. Learning these things are considered to be the ancient sacred mysteries. By knowing and acknowledging that you are a bit of GOD you can allow that force to flow through you.
There are a couple of books that I posted in this thread that can help you to understand and utilize these concepts. One is "Unveiled Mysteries" By Godfre' Ray King and has to do with Saint Germain. The other is the "Kybalion" by The Three Initiates which is Hermetic Philosophy.
"Unveiled Mysteries"
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item131
"Kybalion"
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item136
Blessed Be...
Some good advice from another alien channeler.
Regerds...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zud8yB6I9MI
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on September 23, 2008, 05:25:41 PM
Some good advice from another alien channeler.
Regerds...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zud8yB6I9MI
Hopefully you are joking :), was hilarious
Had to watch that one twice. :)
Regards...
The clue was in my sign off - Reg(e)rds -
Quote from: z.monkey on September 23, 2008, 05:15:38 PM
Howdy Jeanna, Nitinnun,
Jeanna, are familiar with the concept of vertical time? Advanced humans supposedly can traverse vertical time and teleport themselves anywhere and anytime in the physical universe at will. I would be like you are Dr. Who and could go anywhere in space time, except that you would not need the TARDIS.
...
I did watch Dr. Who in the 70's when I lived in Boston. Maybe that is what started me thinking about time travel. Vertical time is still a bunch of words. I will tell a little of my experience.
Several times ( 8)) I have gone back or forward in time. I think I consciously made 3 trips and the 2 to the past I changed how I reacted to some stuff. The one into the future produced my old avatar. (Funny, I mention it just 2 days after I change it.)
The thing about time travel or at least switching timelines, is that I am the only one who can see both of them.
There is no sense in trying to prove it because I am the only person who has lived on BOTH of them. My friends believe me, but they only remember one line. It is funny.
I would also like to point out that we are all time travelers. We travel at one second each second so we don't notice. This concept makes the whole idea more approachable, somehow.
I was doing a daily practice that took me to my weaver friend's house. I was planning to teleport myself there, (no, not yet). It was in this process that I realized that I was accurately remote viewing her place, and I spontaneously decided to go forward 4 months and I ended up on that brick wall. 4 months later, I took the picture.
It takes concentrated focus, but it isn't scary. Or at least, I wasn't scared. I was just there looking around.
I think the vertical time words concept is the explanation physics gives, but it isn't really vertical either. It is another axis. we can't draw it.
A piece of woven fabric is a solid representation of 4D. It is not possible to draw the weave structure on a piece of paper, so weavers draw 2D's then compress those 2 into 1 then using that 1, they make 2 more.
So, in a funny way the fabric of space time has some real meaning. But to live in it, is different. It feels normal, except you remember 2 normal sets of the story.
It's hard to explain.
jeanna
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on September 23, 2008, 05:25:41 PMSome good advice from another alien channeler.
:D I'd say I'd prefer some of the ones on http://www.tuninginmovie.com though...
LOL@That video...
The results of to many drugs and a misspent youth...
For piss sakes I hope some idiot aint going to get all kinds of people to believe this crap and then organize yet another mass suicide or something...
Like the comet suicide crap...
What ever you do folks chose life this is shapping up to be occult...
Look at the facts the alien voice is damn near the same as the aliens from holywood in flash gordon the movie...
So dont take this too much to heart if they suggest something foolish like suicide think before you leap the sharades have gone on for quite a bit of time and the channel that you channelers are tuned to is called bullshit...
Sure anything is possible but I dont wanna see another occult suicide on my watch.
-infringer-
Howdy Infringer,
You know there is a difference between communion with your higher self and indiscriminate channeling of any discarnate spirit. "Tuning In" looks intriguing, but there is intrinsic danger in channeling whatever or whomever. There are, for lack of a better term, "evil" spirits that are more than willing to take you for a ride and leave you spent and busted. There is also a responsible way of performing communion with your own higher self by blocking any outside influence that is safe. This involves using prayer and protection from nefarious discarnates. There is information which just cannot be obtained on the physical plane, and only can be accessed through channeling (or communion) with your own higher self. If you need this non-physical information the only way is through the spirit...
Blessed Be...
Howdy Jeanna,
I believe what you experienced is vertical time. We live in linear time in 3rd density, living second to second. When you raise your consciousness above 3rd density you should be able to access vertical time...
Blessed Be...
Hrmmm...
I have met someone who was truely interested in this stuff... He recently passed away. He was into pyrimids and such like that and he always preached that with his mind he could travel through time and he could make stuff materialize and dematerialize... During his time of passing he put his wife through a lot of hardships starvation and such he refused to eat and so did she he believed that he would over come his alements with the power of his mind instead he put his self through hell and also his wife of many many years.
It is wise to be a critic of everything without a true proof of concept..
Recently the india religion whatever it is buddists or whatever were currently undressed of some of the gimmicks they used to force feed there religion to people they used magic and trickery for years to sway people into following them into a form of control set forth as beliefs.... Things like floating while holding there cane or even spoon bending it is all a gimmick...
When will people get it ...
Prayer is nothing more then putting forth a positve mindset by praying and believing that prayer will come true those who believe that there prayer will come true have a higher chance of it comming true as they will do everything in there power to make it happen. These things can be done without fancy gods or multiple personality disorder and spare me the body is the horse mind is a rider crap and just do it. Believe in yourself know that failure is a posibility in any situation but nothing ventured nothing gained.
And this reminds me too much of the movie powder...
The human mind we know is capable of much more but nothing short of evolution is going to change the makeup of yourself. Short of medical breakthroughs and cyborg like appuratuses you are you. This may be a super capacity living being running at a low conservitive capacity. Everyone knows at any point in there lives the potenital to be more or know more will exsist indifanately. And you do not make dreams or prayer come true by doing nothing but praying it is proven fact you can sit there and pray until you are blue in the face and unless you actually get motivated to make that change there is no miracle on your street. Praying is a post action activity used simply to motivate ones self christan religion confirms this in a somewhat cryptic manner by saying that you need to do the searching "leg work" ....
Anyhow my beliefs remain the same...
I urge anyone who believes in a particular religion to carry on believing as many religions appear to contain many good morals...
But I also wish people would keep an open mind to other possibilities and judge more on what you can see concrete proof of rather then heresay!
Everyone is brainwashed to an extent but do not let any religion control your life 100% because you are working off majority of assumption as you
most likely have not bared witness to much of what is taught by this religion.....
No offense but there is nothing wrong with following logic and my opinon is as good as your own Z.Monkey...
-infringer-
@infringer
Never leave to God what you are able to do!
Summary of what I said in one small sentance...
I love it ...
Can I get an aye men to that one.
Glad to see yah still round on the active list ;)
-infringer-
Howdy Infringer,
There is such a thing as spiritual science. Not talkin 'bout religion or magic. Just because you are not familiar with it doesn't make it invalid. I know better than to try and convince someone who is convinced they are right. Just letting you know Spirituality is different than religion or magic, and this can be scientifically proven if you want to try...
Blessed Be...
Z.Mokey,
Yes you are correct indeed there is a such thing proven by science...
People use it to overcome many extreme things illnesses and alements and unbelievable things.
This one guy ran 10meters bare fotted in extremly cold and snowy conditions in his skivies...
He was supposet to have frost bite but he possed the spiritual power which I believe to be more so connection with his mind and body to generate heat to his feet which were gaurenteed to be chopped off and they indeed did live to see another day and he proved it.
But this all comes down to believing in ones self and the application, actions, and commitment to make it happen.
Z. Mokey your a cool fella don't lose that cool...
I am not trying to offend just give a view I am not even asking you to accept it but just take it as a possibility.
Why you ask?
Because it seems logical when much of this thread does not seem logical to most.
Sure I sound like a rudundant party pooper but give me more concrete proof and when the 14th rolls around and nothing happens then what?
Well nothing other then the people making such wild claims lose the value of everything that rolls off there brain and into the computer.
I just dont want to see folks loose credability... Espicially yourself ... It will be like the boy who cried wolf if you did come up with an interesting working OU/FE device and people may just brush it off cause they may think wow this guys loopy I won't even read what he has to say...
I guess I'll stop alien bashing while I want it to happen probabilaty of it occuring to me seems slim...
OK Z.Mokey let me ask you one question ...
Z. Monkey what do you believe is the probability in a percentage 1-100 that we will witness this event on the 14th of october?
I want to know how strongly you believe that this will happen.
To the rest I also wish you would give your probability as a percentage.
for me I believe there is a .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance that such an event will occur on such a date.
Thank You,
-infringer-
Howdy Infringer,
Well, you give it a 10xE-63% chance. That is pretty small. I guess that make you a skeptic.
So, I guess you missed the part earlier in this thread where I saw ships today. I'm gonna have to give it a 100% chance, not just because of all the channeled media, and the U-Tube videos, and the prophesy, but also because I believe it in my higher self. I was researching the Galactic Federation for 6 months before Blossom's announcement. First contact in America happened 50 years ago, but it was kept secret by the US.Gov (big surprise). What is happening this time is Full Public Disclosure, no middlemen, no deceptive representatives, no smoke and mirrors. They are going to show the ship (or ships) and then we will slowly start introducing ourselves to our galactic brothers. So this has been a weird ass year for me so far. Alien ships coming down into the atmosphere is not that far off from all the other weird ass stuff that has happened to me this year. In fact what would fit really good with all the other weird ass stuff is if the aliens give us the information necessary to build free energy and antigravity devices. Had I heard someone talking about having a year like I have had I would not believe it. So I don't expect you to believe it either. So I don't have any physical proof, but I am certain that this is going to happen...
Blessed Be...
Z. Monkey very interesting you leave absolutely no space for error...
And without solid proof as you say. That to me is beyond a leap of faith.
I find this rather interesting comming from someone educated like yourself.
I appreciate your input very much.
Thank You,
-infringer-
Here's a possibility, what if "channeling" was just one's misunderstanding of lucid daydreaming?
Anyone can influence their dreams by focused conscious thought before sleeping...
One "channeler" has a vision and broadcasts it... all of a sudden confirmations pop up.
I have a BORING job in a machine shop... though fully aware of everything all the time, I can't help but have almost constant lucid daydreams. (always had, almost 40 years now) It's like watching TV and you don't have the remote to turn it off. (but you CAN change the channel) The best thing I can compare it to is "running with an idea".
roughly 22 days and all speculation is over...
I think "channeling" is just overactive imagination. I could be wrong...
Why doesn't my "higher self" ever shoot a few good powerball numbers my way? ::)
Quote from: infringer on September 23, 2008, 08:59:21 PM
for me I believe there is a .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance that such an event will occur on such a date.
you say too little, in too many words.
you make probability assessments, without considering most of the factors that influence the probability.
much less consider the infinite number of possible new factors, which could appear after the probability prediction is made.
or consider the existing factors, which could change after the probability prediction is made.
or make consideration, for how the free will of anyone, may completely change all probabilities at any time.
let alone how the free will of these aliens, might effect the flyover prediction!
you do not understand the vast limitations of "proof".
because nothing in the universe can be proven or disproven.
because everything in the universe, is an educated guess, arbitrarily judged by the person.
AKA THE OPINION OF THE PERSON.
your personal short-falling annoy me.
by a factor of 12.
but you do not annoy me,
as much as the bullshit from some of the "skeptics" in this thread,
annoys me.
because at least "you" are "trying" to contribute something of value.
channeling,
and imagination,
both function from the same parts of the brain.
the difference between the 2,
is that one originates from inside of your brain,
and the other originates from outside of your brain.
most people can channel "something" from "somewhere".
they just do not know that they are channeling.
because they dismiss the channeled information, as being "just their imagination".
there are records of channeling and remote viewing.
the results of these records,
makes the probability that channeling and remote viewing,
to be FAR above "coincidence",
in the judgement of most people who might fully consider the results.
but a majority of the population,
has been socially conditioned,
to have the extremely unconstructive vice,
of judging things,
without considering all the factors.
as a result of this unconstructive vice,
most people who hear about channeling or remove viewing,
dismiss it automatically.
without understanding one single god-damn thing about it.
let alone fully considering the recordings, of what it has been used to do.
New channel INFO!
SaLuSa 24-September-2008
Even by your measure of time, there is not long to go before you will get a clear indication of where Humanity is going. There are events that are approaching manifestation that will be the precursor of greater happenings, that shall lead you in a different direction to what you are used to experiencing. You are being helped to break away from the iron grip of the dark forces, and this is vital if you are to tread a different path that shall allow you full expression in the Light. As you rise up from the lower vibrations, so you are creating a new energy field around you, and eventually will be totally protected against intrusions from them.
The raising up of your consciousness is a process that you can contribute to by being aware of all of your thoughts and actions, ensuring they are of your highest expression. As you progress, you will attract even higher energies to yourself, and in so doing will help others also awaken. Your presence is all that is required to perform this service, on behalf of those who still dwell in the lower vibrations. Some will remain rooted in them and unable to break out. They will not be deserted, but allowed to continue through their freewill choice.
Part of your reason for coming to Earth was to experience separateness from the Source, and in the end-times that you are now going through to grasp the opportunity to ascend. It is of your choosing, and as your consciousness expands to reveal the truth you must live according to your highest understanding of upliftment. Once you are on the path to Ascension, many dear souls from the Light will accompany you for the remainder of your journey. You have never been alone, but as often as not have been mired in the dark energies and unable to fully respond to the Light.
This particular period of time is drawing many Beings to Earth, who desire to help you overcome the many obstacles across your path. Rigid belief systems are a major difficulty to overcome, and it is so essential that you allow for other beliefs to expand your understanding. If not, many revelations that are about to enter your consciousness will be missed opportunities to break out of the conditioning that has held you back. Soon for example, there will be irrefutable proof that you are not alone in this Universe. Extraterrestrial craft are no strangers to your Earth, and contact with them is quite normal. What will be different is that the event of the 14th October sighting will happen in such a way that it will be undeniable, and open the door to First Contact.
From hereon, think in a more expansive way that allows for the unity of Man, and his counterparts from all parts of the Universe. You are All One, and it is time to welcome them to your Earth not as strangers or aliens, but your friends. You are One in the Light of the Source of All Life, and your destiny is to once more to become a pure Being of Light. Without the assistance of your ET friends, Man would have been unable to progress thus far. In time you will understand the truth of their presence, and how they have greatly helped you to evolve according to the Divine Plan that has guided them.
As we have often informed you, fear is the greatest obstacle to your enlightenment, and your dark forces play upon it. See beyond their attempts to intimidate you, and take your focus away from the activities of the Light. Some events are natural and real enough, and physical changes will continue to take place. However, others are intentionally brought about to continue the assault upon your senses to cause confusion and despair. Look further ahead and see that the present conditions cannot remain much longer, without a major change of direction. The dark is already beginning to implode upon itself, as it has no place whatsoever in the New Age. The Light is rapidly manifesting upon Earth, and drawing ever closer to the moment when the new Earth shall come into being. It will be with all of its glory, fully restored and fit for the sovereign Beings that shall have been lifted up.
There should be no concern about anything of value that will be left behind, as nothing of the 3rd dimension vibration can take its place in the higher ones. You will eventually use your own powers of creation to bring into being absolutely anything that gives you joy and happiness. There will be no loss to mourn over, and you will enjoy an existence of wonderful peace and great satisfaction in the company of Souls of Light. The times upon Earth will seem distant, and only those moments of utter love and upliftment will remain in your awareness. Think and meditate upon these things, and you will find a certainty within that knows the Truth in this connection.
We say be aware of what is going on around you, but stand back and deflect the lower energies back to their source by placing the golden white Light around you. Everything is energy, and therefore you have the means to combat any unwelcome energies so that they do not affect you. There will be difficult times ahead but you can soften the blow, if you approach them in the knowing that great changes are coming that will advance you beyond any lasting effect. Everything is happening so quickly with some speed as the new energies begin to manifest the new Earth. It is happening now, and therefore much of the old must make way for it.
Be of good cheer and help others to overcome their fear, by pointing out that a cleansing is taking place that is necessary to enable the new to manifest. Death and destruction are inevitable, but you will learn that nothing happens by chance. All souls decide how they will leave Earth and they accept it without any trauma or regret, as there is a time set for the completion of each souls life period. One life is but a brief moment of time in the whole scheme and plan for Man. The present one is however most important for those who seek the path of Ascension, and even that is known within the souls subconsciousness and will drive them onwards.
I am SaLuSa from Sirius and come with greetings from the Galactic Federation, and much joy at the thought of your soon to come experiences of our craft, as they come close to Earth. Our actions are all in the cause of Love and Light and to ensure your safe arrival at journeys end, and Ascension.
Thank you SaLuSa.
Mike Quinsey
Has anyone noticed a change of feeling in the last 2 days or is it just me? I have been waking up in the morning feeling very uncentered or ungrounded even like i am run down, but by the afternoon I have been feeling extremely relaxed and calm.
Maybe its just me or im fighting a virus or something.
Howdy Shooter001,
Gotta love those Sirians! Yeah, I have been feeling less than optimum the past two days. Sunday I was full of energy, then Monday I took half a sick day, and have been dragging ever since. Maybe it is just the drudgery of having to go to work for the man and pay taxes...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: nitinnun on September 24, 2008, 04:25:57 AMwithout considering all the factors.
My guess is that we don't even have a fraction of a clue about what all the factors are. Even in physics, most is only an approximation and simplification of what we assume reality is. It's just too complex, so we use models we can grasp, and we leave off the parts in equations that we assume contribute too little to have an observable effect. But maybe many of these insignificant parts can add up in certain (rare) occasions that they could change an outcome significantly. Maybe such a factor could be just "looking" (figuratively). [While this is acknowledged in quantum physics it usually stops when "looking" is for example taken as "focus of consciousness" or when things get a little larger than atoms, because it is outside of our axiomatic definition of what "scientific" is.]
Quote from: shooter001 on September 24, 2008, 08:43:15 AMHas anyone noticed a change of feeling in the last 2 days or is it just me?
Yes. quite a changing mix.
http://projectcamelot.org/index.html
23 September
â€Ã,¢ Click here for a 42 minute telephone conversation with George Green, as a follow-up to the 2 September interview below. George discusses the collapse of the US economy, the consequences for US citizens, and the serious, imminent risk of war.
i have not download it yet, the first interview was good
Quote from: z.monkey on September 23, 2008, 04:25:27 PM
Howdy Resonanceman,
Well, yes I guess is the official answer but no not in the way you would expect. In this thread on page 2 reply #49 I explained how this year began with very strange occurrences. Then in this thread reply #366 I stated that I was in contact with the Galactic Federation through my higher self. It doesn't happen like a conversation, at least with my physical (3rd density) body. They, uh, talk through me? When I write responses concerning the Galactic Federation the information flows from my higher self who is in contact with them. I physically type the words and understand the diction and grammar of what I am typing, but I have to go back and reread what I typed to understand what it is saying, if that makes any sense. I can communicate with my higher self just fine, but there is an impasse between my physical self and the members of the Galactic Federation which my higher self has to make up for. This could be a language barrier where my higher self is interpreting. If you go reread this entire thread I think that you can tell where I am physically relating to the forum, and where my higher self is bringing information from the Galactic Federation. You were there when this first started Resonanceman. You have been in this thread from the beginning. You should be able to see the difference.
Z Monkey
I didn't get around to answering this before. ( the red part )
When I am focusing on what I am picking up from my higher self I am not in analytical mode.
If I stop to question it I usually loose the connection .
I am focused in the now when I am recieving.
I just try to find the best words I can to explain the feel of the message.
I can tell you that the message was not about what you may or may not have already received .
My feeling is that it was directly related to when you saw the UFOs.
If you see them again .............make sure you are listening .
gary
When you think about it...its either now or never for alien intervention.
These nuts are going to leave this place in the condition prior dark forces left Mars in.
Although I am not completely sold on the Oct. 14 date...I am of the mind that they will step in...probably because they got tired of the rises, falls, the destruction, and all the other cyclic dysfunctional behavior that goes along with the pathology.
Regards...
Howdy Y'all,
Here is the creme de la creme proof that there are aliens here. It is a sure thing now, for sure...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on September 24, 2008, 04:04:56 PM
When you think about it...its either now or never for alien intervention.
These nuts are going to leave this place in the condition prior dark forces left Mars in.
Although I am not completely sold on the Oct. 14 date...I am of the mind that they will step in...probably because they got tired of the rises, falls, the destruction, and all the other cyclic dysfunctional behavior that goes along with the pathology.
Regards...
I agree that it is time .
the idea of beings in the higher realms getting tired of stuff doesn't exactly fit into my understanding .
In the early 80s I was following a guy on lightworker.com in at least one of his channelngs he had a list of huge natural desasters .........the only one that I can remember is a huge ice sheet breaking free and raising the ocean levels a couple feet in minutes .
Then he said that all these disasters were going to happen in 1979
Then it was decided that the game called human life on earth was going into overtime .
Apparently the game was just to good to put away
I don't accept that as the total truth ........but I really think there is some truth to it .
WHen I look back at how far we have come in the last 200 years . I just can't imagine how we can keep going like we have been going for another 50 years .
In short ........if life is to continue on earth man has to either change or die .
Just for the record .......I am voting for change.
gary
I have a strong belief that there is something out there somewhere ...
What is it is it really ET?
Oddly enough I find that no one takes the time to consider the fact that there may be a multiverse and not just one universe?
No one has visioned or conceptualized that possibly outerspace is possibly time travel maybe the milky way is the only galaxy and all the other galaxies that we see are the milky way but we view the milky way at differnt times of its evolution is that possible?
So if we went to andromeda or something could it be actually the milky way in its early stages ? Is this why there is a black hole at the center of every galaxy ... Think about it if we had to travel to any one of these other galaxies we would have to bend space time thus traveling through time in order to get there... Beats me really I think the possibility of this is slim but I havent seen anyone with the thought.
Aside from that fact I want you to forget the last sentance because it is not related to this next possibility or maybe it is though irrelavant.
How do we know that these so called ET's are really not ET's but inhabitants of our own galaxy that have learned how to travel back in time?
Anyhow I believe there is something no matter how or where or who...
But this channeling is greek to me no matter how you slice it.
The reason I believe in E.T. is the documented proofs in the summarian texts of them having the knowladge of the planets in our solar system down to the color of the planets... Not to mention other things which I will choose not to mention simply cause I dont feel like writing a whole story.
But intertwinding all these speculative things takes away from the credibility of this claim and leads me to believe that is mass dellusion or a decoy by the government that was thrown out at us to take pressure off of them from the ufologists. How? By persuaying people to belive in something big and outlandish and then smash there hopes and beliefs simply to get the monkey off there back.. While I lean twords mass dellusion I am not sure that the person who started it all including the website wasnt in it simply to generate add revenue from there website with adsense or something other by making such a wild claim.
Weather you believe in all of this or not is irrelavant I suppose folks will believe what they want no matter what you tell them. I beileve in nothing other then keeping an open mind dont put all your eggs in one basket!
Leave chance for error have you not yet been wrong before and swore up and down that you have to be correct?
If you answered yes can you be 100% sure of anything?
I dunno maybe you can but its an honest question...
nitnnun what is your strength of your belief in this event? Please do share with us on a percentage scale of believe...
-infringer-
I believe in et life but it isn't all intelligent life. I believe there are lifeforms that are simple organizations of energy systems of varying densities. Ones that can walk through walls and mountains etc. like we walk through air. There are ones that float around space feeding sunlight into there systems like space plants and space fish. Giants whose atoms could be as large radiowavelengths. Larger giants with organizations of matter in the lightyear wavelengths. Time for these giants running slower than billions of revolutions of the Sun needed for them to have one breath. Sonic galaxies planets stars screaming at us but our ears too small to catch the waves. Entire galaxies coming and going in 1x10-590,000 seconds inside of subatomic particles. Lifetime for these critters a tiny fraction of that amount yet with all the trials tribulations joys and sadness a human life can encounter.
Howdy Y'all,
So did no one see my Jedi Squirrels?
Sparks, you are talking about microcosmic and macrocosmic life. Yes there is life everywhere in every form.
Infringer, you still don't get it. This event isn't the brainchild of one person, or one government, or one planet. This is Galactic History, look it up, read about it, learn about it. It involves you as much as it involves any person on this planet, or in this galaxy, or in this universe, or in the multiverse. I can tell that you are trying to get your mind around these concepts. There is plenty of information out there. When you reach an impasse you can look within yourself for direction. Your spirit is linked to the universal all. It can find and supply answers that you cannot find without. Happiness, love, and light are within your heart. The reason they are there is that GOD put them there. When you have questions that the world cannot answer look within, ask you higher self, it will not lie to you...
Blessed Be...
z.monkey
I have respectfully taking you seriously that you believe in what you represent to us.
This Squirrel Business makes a Mockery out of it. Sorry but I am a bit disappointed now.
professor
Quote from: z.monkey on September 24, 2008, 06:42:20 PM
Howdy Y'all,
So did no one see my Jedi Squirrels?
Sparks, you are talking about microcosmic and macrocosmic life. Yes there is life everywhere in every form.
Infringer, you still don't get it. This event isn't the brainchild of one person, or one government, or one planet. This is Galactic History, look it up, read about it, learn about it. It involves you as much as it involves any person on this planet, or in this galaxy, or in this universe, or in the multiverse. I can tell that you are trying to get your mind around these concepts. There is plenty of information out there. When you reach an impasse you can look within yourself for direction. Your spirit is linked to the universal all. It can find and supply answers that you cannot find without. Happiness, love, and light are within your heart. The reason they are there is that GOD put them there. When you have questions that the world cannot answer look within, ask you higher self, it will not lie to you...
Blessed Be...
Howdy Professor,
Just trying to make light of a tense situation. You can't be all business all the time. You know what they say... All work and no play...
Blessed Be...
Its not that the squirrels weren't impressive z...its just that my galactic channeler is a hard act to follow. :)
Regerds...
the squirrels were amusing, and you need to purchase yourself a sense of humor from spencers.
a large chunk of the alien species, might as well be US.
only they are a less screwed up version of US.
because their species were not genetically damaged, by intense solar radiation exposure (our atmosphere was ripped open, when the firmament fell. around the time atlantis sank).
most of the species are not like us. physically or mentally.
but even then have many things "in common" with us.
such as their desires. their dreams. their wants.
the answer you want, is "humans came to earth, from another planet".
HUMANS, are the aliens on this planet.
and OUR species, lives on many other planets.
and it is mainly OUR species, that wants to contact us, on october 14th.
is it really so hard to believe the above?
if we are capable of sending humans to live on mars "right now", than that alone shows that others living elsewhere, could come here to earth.
QuoteHUMANS, are the aliens on this planet.
That means that you are also an alien, right?
Quoteand OUR species, lives on many other planets.
...we can ask the alien visitors on the 14th of October if this is true...
remember, i will pay a barell of beer if they come.
greetings
Howdy Y'all,
Nitinnun, yeah, Earth was seeded by "aliens" and they accelerated our evolution. They have been here longer than we have been here. They are us, we are them, just one big happy (well, maybe not so happy) galactic family. A lot of them look exactly like us. Others that evolved in other areas of the galaxy don't look so much like us but their spirits are the same. All of our spirits were built by GOD, so essentially we are all the same despite out external differences.
Felix.Lamet, yeah Nitinnun is an alien. I am looking forward to that barrel of beer...
Blessed Be...
It's an honour being with you here on this thread,
And also fun!
So many valuable ideas, so many good links.
And yes things are moving now in warp speed towards a higher frequency on earth (and the "happy" end of the illuminati)
And yes they will come but perhaps not exactly on the 14th!
Mathews messages are very valuable indeed.
eden
Howdy Eden,
Welcome to the Weird Science Club...
Here is an article from Dr. Joshua David Stone
http://www.iamuniversity.ch/The-Ashtar-Command
Blessed Be...
The Ashtar Command!
By Dr Joshua David Stone
"The Airborne division of the Great White Brotherhood"
Commander Ashtar
One of the most interesting and intriguing extraterrestrial groups of them all is that of Commander Ashtar and the Ashtar Command. Commander Ashtar is the man who is in charge of the Airborne Division of the Great White Brotherhood, or Brotherhood of Light. Commander Ashtar and His vast extraterrestrial army of workers of over twenty million, work closely and in conjunction with the Ascended Masters. Besides the twenty million personnel under His command in our solar system, of which He is in charge, there are another four million members and workers on the physical plane.
Commander Ashtar, Himself, is a great and noble being approximately seven feet in height with blue eyes. His body type is that of the Adam Kadmon which means it is similar to ours of Earth. He evolved from the planet Ashtar, and the planet Venus, in His development as a soul. He has never had an embodiment on planet Earth. Although Commander Ashtar is in charge of the space fleet in our solar system, He is not restricted to this sector of space in terms of His service. He represents our solar system in the council meetings of our galaxy, and universes throughout the greater omniuniverse.
One of the important things to understand about Commander Ashtar and His army of workers, and fleet of extraterrestrial aircraft, is that they are etheric in nature. They do not have physical bodies like we do, however they are able to manifest physical bodies, and manifest their aircraft onto the physical plane anytime they want. A person seeing them would not think of them any differently than you or I.
Most of the life on the other planets in our solar system is etheric in nature. Sometimes for this reason these beings have been called etherians. They would not be considered disincarnate beings for they do have bodies. They are in a state of evolution just as we are, and their life on their plane is not that much different than ours, except that they have transcended much of the lower self and astral desire that the people of Earth struggle with so frequently.
Commander Ashtar also works closely with the Angelic Kingdom, most specifically with Archangel Michael. Commander Ashtar is an extremely loving and gentle man but stern and adamant in His mission to serve, educate and protect humankind throughout the solar system.
Commander Ashtar and His crew do not wish to be seen as Gods, but rather as comrades and equals with us on paths of ascension and beyond. Two of his main missions are to spiritually educate mankind to their true mission for being here, and secondly to defend and protect the Earth and the solar system from hostile and selfish extraterrestrial groups. People have no idea of the gratitude that is entitled to Him and His tireless crew and workers.
Ashtar’s First Contact
Commander Ashtar’s first open contact with planet Earth came in the 1950’s through a man by the name of George Van Tassel. On July 18, 1952, George was given a telepathic message from a space intelligence by the name of Portla, that their chief was about to enter this solar system for the first time. Then followed the first message from Commander Ashtar. I would like to share with you some fragments of this first message. "Hail to you, beings of Shan (Earth). I greet you in love and peace. My identity is Ashtar, Commandant Quadra Sector, Patrol Station Schare. â€Ã,¦..The purpose of this organization is, in a sense, to save mankind from himself.
Some years ago, your time, nuclear physicists penetrated the Book of Knowledge. They discovered how to explode the atom. Disgusting as the results have been, that this force should be used for destruction, it is not compared to that which can be. â€Ã,¦We are concerned, however, with their attempt to explode the hydrogen element.
When they explode the hydrogen atom, they shall extinguish life on this planet. They are tinkering with a formula they do not comprehend. We are not concerned with man’s desire to continue war on this planet, Shan. We are concerned with their deliberate determination to extinguish humanity and turn this planet into a cinderâ€Ã,¦."
This is quite a powerful message, I am sure you would agree. The full message can be read in a book by Tuella called, "Ashtar, a Tribute", which I highly recommend reading. It is no accident that the extraterrestrial activity increased one hundred fold after we dropped the atomic bomb on Nagasaki, and Hiroshima.
In developing this most dangerous technology, we were now endangering the entire solar system itself, and hence even the galaxy. It was upon this occasion that the extraterrestrial forces throughout our solar system, galaxy, universe, and even universes, were mobilized to help Earth and prevent this from happening.
In the sacred teachings it is said that a planet in our solar system called Maldek, did obliterate itself from just this process of tampering with nuclear weapons and technology. The real battle that the Ashtar Command is fighting, is for the minds of the people of Earth. Will we serve the soul and spirit, or the lower self, negative ego, and astral materialistic desire.
Commander Ashtar also works very closely with the Christ, and also with Jesus who, in the higher planes is called Sananda. Commander Ashtar literally has millions of space ships at His disposal for emergency purposes. He not only has His own fleet, but also unlimited numbers of crafts available from the Galactic fleets, and even universal fleets, if he should make the call for help.
In many of the Ashtar channelings there has been talk of an evacuation by these fleets if Earth would go through massive earth changes and/or catastrophe of some kind., From the information I have received, this danger has now passed and the project evacuation is no longer valid or needed.
The Ashtar command also has mother ships that are anchored in space that are as long as 100 miles in diameter. These motherships contain entire cities with literally millions of people and a thriving society. The Ashtar command is part of a great confederation of planets, first in our solar system, and then in our galaxy.
In the center circle you have the Ashtar Command which is in charge of our solar system. Then you have the interplanetary confederation which is a larger group of planets in our sector of space. Then you have the Galactic Confederation of Planets. Then still larger there is the Inter dimensional Federation of Free Worlds. Each of these councils work in conjunction with the planetary, solar, galactic, and universal Spiritual Hierarchies.
The Universe is divided into different sectors of space, and how, also, of course, there is the acknowledgment of the different dimensions of reality. Commander Ashtar is the representative from our solar system to these different council meetings through the universe. Each of these confederations, and federations is accountable to the one above it in terms of the hierarchy of authority.
These different confederations have not openly accepted us into their circle because of Earth’s egocentric, materialistic, war-like nature. The Ashtar Command has most definitely made advanced and physical contacts with Gorbechev and Ronald Reagan, and have been listened to, to some extent. However, the bottom line is that our government leaders are always more interested in military technology than spiritual growth. Hopefully, in our new administration this will begin to change.
These confederations and the Ashtar Command are not allowed to interfere with our free choice, unless we interfere with other members of the universe, which atomic and hydrogen bombs would certainly do. So eventually, instead of the United Nations on Earth, we will have the Federation of United Worlds.
We will move from the one world attitude, which we haven’t even achieved yet, to the one solar system, one galaxy, one universe, and eventually one omniuniverse. It will be a great day in the evolution of planet Earth when it can take its rightful place in solar, galactic, and universal affairs.
It is also important to understand on a spiritual level that each planet has its own Spiritual Hierarchy, just as each solar system has its own Solar Hierarchy, and on up the ladder throughout the galaxy and universes. These Hierarchies work in perfect unison and harmony with these confederations and federations.
The Ashtar Command’s entire function is to be of service, and they go wherever they are needed throughout the sector to fulfill this function in any way they are needed. Many of the crew members return to their home planets for vacations and there are shifts that do take place. Their extraterrestrial crafts have been patrolling our system for many ages, long before they made open contact in the forties and fifties.
The Ashtar Command and the Negative Extraterrestrials
There are many extraterrestrial civilizations throughout the galaxy, universe, and omniuniverse that have come to Earth to collect data and perform experiments for their own selfish purposes. They are not here to be of service. Some of these extraterrestrials are of what might be termed a neutral nature, and some are serving the Dark Forces.
There are also negative extraterrestrials who openly oppose the Great White Brotherhood and the Ashtar Command. They would seize the planet and take it over if they could. It is the Ashtar Command and civilizations like that of Arcturus, that have protected us from this taking place. Just like in Star Trek, there are bands of renegades in their star ships, that are escorted out of our sector by these commands.
Many of the Ashtar Command walk among us on our streets on Earth without us even being aware of it. The Ashtar Command serves in a certain sense as heaven’s policemen. In the channelings of Tuella, she has said that there are six planets in the Orion system, and a group called the Deros, from inner space, that have had to be cordoned off.
One of the problems the Ashtar Command has is that if our government makes legally binding agreements with certain negative extraterrestrial groups, they are not allowed to interfere with our free choice, unless we are endangering our solar system and galaxy.
The number of negative extraterrestrials is small in number compared to the vast number of positive extraterrestrials, however, the negative ones are quite dangerous if not controlled. Thank goodness for the Ashtar Command. As a general rule, the cigar shaped UFO craft are potentially the dangerous extraterrestrials. There are a few exceptions to this rule.
New Agers and UFO Enthusiasts
In my life and studies into the fields of spirituality, and UFO research, I have noticed and observed a very strange division of sorts between these two areas of focus. For some very strange reason they seem to be very separate in people’s minds. Many very evolved spiritual people have no connection or understanding of the extraterrestrials. On the other side of the coin, a great many of the UFO enthusiasts have no connection to the spiritual realities of life. One of my purposes in writing this book is to integrate and blend the two movements for, indeed, in truth they are one.
Star People
Some of the people reading this book might be considered star people, or incarnated representatives of the Ashtar Command or other extraterrestrial groups. In truth, we all are really ambassadors and visitors, for no one is really from the planet Earth. We are all visiting here and going to school, and performing our appointed missions and service work.
Because of the ending of the Piscean Age and the ending of other major planetary and solar cycles at this time, the space commands are increasing their communications and interactions with their incarnated representatives. The channelings suggest that only one third of these incarnated representatives have truly awakened to their full mission. Part of the purpose of this book is to awaken or more fully awaken people to these connections and their full mission on earth.
The Mother Ships
These great mother ships or space cities have, in most cases, 12 levels. The first level is for the entry and exit of UFO air craft. The second level is a vast stockroom of supplies for all the other levels of the ship. The third level is a zoo, with animals from many worlds. The fourth level is the agricultural research, farmland, gardens, and orchards. The fifth level is the housing center for technicians and persons working on the first four levels. The sixth level is the recreational level, with vast parks and landscaping. The seventh level is the medical complex. The eighth level is housing for evacuees, should that ever be needed.
The ninth level is the university compound. On this level are libraries, halls of wisdom, concert halls, and cultural activities. Level ten is where the visiting dignitaries from all dimensions come. The eleventh level is the headquarters for the Ashtar Command and the Great Rotunda Meeting Hall.
Level twelve is referred to as the dome. It is the pilot control center and officer’s observation deck. Visitors are allowed to come here by appointment if they come in a group. Down through the center of the mother ship is a circular shaft which is a power reactor for the entire craft. Ashtar has described one particular mother ship called the "Shan Chea" as the largest of these orbiting cities that encircle the solar system. This is the ship that Commander Ashtar apparently lives on most of the time.
Trapped Essences
In an absolutely fascinating transcript from the Tibetan Foundation, Betty J. Dix, channeled Ashtar on the subject of "trapped energy in the Earth". In this transcript, Ashtar spoke of later days in Atlantis when the sons of Belial (egocentric people and/or lords of materialism) trapped many people’s "essences within pseudo crystals". When I speak of this, I don’t mean to say that the soul extension or incarnated personality itself was trapped, but rather a certain portion of the soul extension’s energy was trapped. The pseudo crystals are not true crystals. True crystals would not allow this to happen. The sons of Belial created these pseudo crystals to look like regular crystals. Ashtar has said that some of these crystals are coming to the surface of the planet now.
Ashtar says that these crystals don’t feel right when you pick them up. The energy in them feels dead. In order for souls to go to their next level in evolution this trapped essence of the soul needs to be released. Souls on the inner plane are now requesting that this work be done because of the great transformation that is now taking place on Earth.
Ashtar is requesting us, as Light Workers, to help in this most important work. The crystals don’t have to be physically broken to release the energy, but rather just work with energetically. Some of these pseudo crystals can be placed on crystal clusters and asked to be programmed to heal and release the energies that have been trapped inside. It can also be requested that the pseudo crystal form heal, and become a true crystal.
Interestingly enough, when the trapped essence leaves many pseudo crystals will just disappear. Some will transform into another form, and others into a true crystal in its beginning stages of conscious development.
Ashtar has stated that these pseudo crystals are all over the planet. Especially in Africa, South America, and the United States. Once the essence is released, the essence will usually return to the soul. In some cases the trapped essence may need some guidance to return to the soul.
In Atlantis towards the ending time, the sons of Belial actually created "entrapment machines" to accomplish this process. They were able to do this process without the machines, but the machines did it faster. He also said that implants were used to pull out the essence.
It is very important to make people aware of this phenomena for most people have never heard of this. Ashtar said that if a person would put 20 pounds of crystals, as many as five pounds could be the "pseudo crystals". To work with these pseudo crystals in meditation, release the trapped essence and transform these pseudo crystals is a great service we can render to a great many souls.
These pseudo crystals can also be worked without coming in physical contact with them. There are some that will have to be physically touched to facilitate the releasing process. The more Light Workers release these trapped essences the more this allows others to come to the surface of the planet, for many are trapped in the earth. Ashtar says that in the future the earth will be of such a great magnitude of light, the energies and essences will be unable to stay. Most of these pseudo crystals look like clear quartz, smoky quartz, and a lavender color amethyst.
You will not be able to tell that it is a pseudo crystal by just looking at them. You will also have to feel them to know for sure. Ashtar says that there are hundreds of thousands pseudo crystals. Clairvoyantly the difference between the pseudo crystal and a real crystal can clearly be seen.
Major Grid Points That Need Clearing
Another service that Light Workers can render the Ashtar Command and the Great White Brotherhood is in the cleansing of certain grid points on the planet. The earth is covered in energy meridians much in the same way that we, as humans, have acupuncture meridians.
These meridians on the earth have been called lay lines. There are certain grid points on the earth similar to our acupuncture points on our physical bodies. When one of these points gets blocked in our physical body there is a stagnation of energy flow which eventually leads to disease. The same is true of the planet Earth.
Commander Ashtar has pointed out, in this same transcript some of the grid points on the earth that need clearing. There is one major one in the center of the Pacific Ocean. Another in the northern part of Canada, close to the Arctic Circle. These unstable forces have been stored there since the time of Atlantis. There is another one directly below New York City. This point is also tied to the chaotic energy of the city itself.
Ashtar is requesting humanity’s help in releasing these unstable forces which will also help to heal the Earth Mother, herself. Some additional points are south of the Hawaiian Islands, almost on the equator. Another one is off the coast of Africa, also close to the equator. Two points in Russia, and also the North and South Poles. Another one is underneath the tip of South Africa. This last one is partly why there is so much dissension there. There are also some blocked points beneath Columbia, Ecuador and the Gulf of Thailand.
The best way to help in the cleansing of these points is to do it in a group dynamic. This can be done by following a grid line until you come to a blockage. Calling for the help of the soul, monad, Great White Brotherhood, and Ashtar Command, a laser light can be visualized into it. Ask for the soul and monad’s help in guiding the amount of laser light that is needed during that particular meditation.
Under Ground Ashtar Command Conferences
One of the ways that the Ashtar Command can be contacted is during the night while we sleep. In these conferences there are physical beings, etheric beings, and beings from other planets. These conferences occur at least twice monthly. Many of the Light Workers attend five or six of these conferences a year.
One example of one of these dealt with how to clean up the pollution in the air, sea, and ground. Sometimes these conferences last for as long as two or three weeks every night. Many beings attend in their astral bodies. Commander Ashtar is very pleased to see how fast the light is growing on Earth, and to see the unfolding spiritual commitment of so many Light Workers on Earth.
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Extraterrestrials and Other Governmental Cover-ups! Part I
By Dr Joshua David Stone
"95% of all Extraterrestrials visiting our planet are of a positive nature."
One of the areas of very great interest of mine over the last five years has been the area concerning the extra terrestrial involvement with our planet over the earth’s history. This area of focus could probably take a thousand books to cover and would probably not even cover the surface of the topic. I will attempt to give you a brief overview of this subject.
It is a very interesting phenomena that a great many very devoted and spiritual people have very little knowledge of the extraterrestrial involvement on earth. It will be my attempt to give some of the basics in this chapter.
First off, God’s infinite universe is filled with extraterrestrial life. It is the height of egotism to think that we would be the only life forms in God’s infinite universe. Extraterrestrials have been visiting us since the beginning of time. In the chapter on creation, in my first book, I mentioned the electrical wars in Pre-Lemurian times. Later I mentioned in Atlantis and Egypt how extraterrestrials visited in great numbers. If people had any idea how much extraterrestrial activity has been going on in the past and in our present they would be amazed.
In Atlantis they helped with crystal technologies and in building the "Great Crystal", which was the power source for the entire civilization of Atlantis. The extraterrestrials have come from our galaxy, and other more distant galaxies. It is important at this point to say that I believe from the guidance I have received that "95%" of all extraterrestrial contact with the earth is of a "positive nature". Most of the civilizations are far beyond ours in technological and spiritual advancement. One of the basic laws they follow is that of respecting our free choice and never interfering unless they have been asked for help.
One of the reasons there have been so many sightings of UFO’s is that we, on this planet, have moved into a fourth dimensional consciousness, and into sacred status as a planet, and this is a solar event. Each of the planets of our solar system could be likened to a chakra of the sun or of the Being that ensouls the solar system, whose name is Helios. When one chakra goes through a major transformation it affects all the other chakras. The extraterrestrial are aware of this transformation which the earth is going through and are very interested in watching it and helping us move to the new age.
Many of the great advancements in earth’s evolution have come from extraterrestrial help. One important thing to understand is that not all extraterrestrials have a human looking appearance. Our particular kind of physical body is called the "Adam Kadmon" type. There are many other types of bodies that God has created.
Also let it be known that in past lives when we have incarnated on other planets we have inhabited some of these bodies ourselves. We need to get beyond our egotistical attachment to this particular human form and realize that we are part of a galactic, universal and cosmic family of intelligent life forms. Most of them are far more advanced than our civilization.
One of the reasons that they are not more overt in visiting our planet and just making a landing on the White House lawn in full public view is that we, as a planet have been too war like. We have made some advancements technologically, but spiritually we have been a backwards planet.
The Negative Extraterrestrials and the Dark Brotherhood
This brings me to the subject which is the negative extraterrestrials. As I have already mentioned, at least 95% of all the extraterrestrials involvement on this planet is of a very "positive nature". The five percent who are negative, though, are very negative. It is part of my purpose in writing this chapter to make you aware of what is actually going on behind the scenes. The information I will share with you in this chapter has been confirmed over and over again from both earthly and spiritual sources. Some of the things I share with you may even shock some of you. However, I ask you to keep reading and keep an open mind, for I believe it is absolutely imperative for the people of the United States and the world to wake up.
Negative extraterrestrials were part of the fall of Atlantis and have been trying to control this planet and its people since the beginning of recorded time. In God’s infinite universe there are always two forces. Those that serve the law of One and those that serve more egotistical, selfish, fear based principles. This is true for us on earth. It is true for the extraterrestrials.
By becoming aware of these egotistical factions we are less likely to be controlled by them. The purpose of this entire book and of this chapter is to make you aware of what is going on behind the scenes so you can become even more empowered than you already are. We cannot solve a problem until we know what the problem is.
The problem, in its core essence, probably goes back to the Dark Brotherhood. The Dark Brotherhood is an organization much like the Great White Brotherhood, of spiritual hierarchy. The only problem is that these beings are working for a plan that is antithetical to God’s divine plan. In a sense these beings, both in the spiritual state and on the material plane have a plan that serves there selfish interests rather than God’s plan which is for the good of everyone.
This dark force and brotherhood is nothing to fear, for as long as you own your power and don’t walk around on automatic pilot, they can not affect you or harm you in any way. The problem is that a great many souls on this planet don’t own their power and aren’t attuned spiritually. They take drugs, and drink too much alcohol, and don’t realize who they are, and why they are here. Their lives are focused on hedonism and materialism and all these things leave them vulnerable to the influences of dark forces. The negative extraterrestrials are obviously influenced by this dark separative, egotistical, fear based part of themselves. They have evolved technologically which can be seen by their flying saucers. However they have not evolved spiritually. They are forcing their will upon the people of the planet Earth. They are breaking what the TV show Star Trek called the "prime directive" of noninterference and respecting of a free choice.
Before going into a much greater explanation of this whole process it is necessary to explain one other group that has played and continues to play a pivotal role in this whole drama, and that is a group of men on this planet who make up what I call the "Secret Government" or "Illuminatti".
The Secret Government
There are a group of men in this world who, because of their lack of attunement to their own souls, have in a sense, been taken over by the Dark Brotherhood. These men have been taken over by selfishness, greed, and power, and are attempting to control the United States and the world at large to suit their own deluded, materialistic values. These men have no respect for the United States Government or any government on this planet.
Their basic game is to control the world to serve their own interests and values, which are clearly selfish to the core. We hear of occasional scandals where they are caught, however the world as a whole does not realize the extent of their power and ruthlessness.
Some of the scandals that are attributed to this group are: The assassination of John F. Kennedy, the assassination of Robert Kennedy, Watergate, Contragate, Iraqgate, the Savings an Loan debacle, the total control of the banking system, the control of the CIA, and the control of most of presidents and governments of the Unites States. They have financed a great many of their illegal projects through the CIA, by selling drugs. This secret government is known by many names, some of which are the Illuminatti, the Trilateral Commission, The Council on Foreign Relations, and The Olympians. They are in essence, representatives or instruments of the Dark Brotherhood on earth. A lot of these men are of great financial wealth, and hold positions of great political power. At the end of this chapter I have provided a diagram of some of the people involved. Some of the names of these people will strike familiar cords. It is time for the American people to wake up and reclaim their power and take back their government.
I am happy to say that one giant step has been taken with George Bush, Dan Quail, and James Baker being voted out of office. James Baker and George Bush were very high up in the secret government organization. It is not the purpose of this book to spend too much time focusing on this aspect, except as it relates to the extraterrestrial situation. For now, I would like to focus on the modern history of the extraterrestrial movement and how the secret government has perpetrated the greatest cover-up in the history of this planet. The most mind boggling thing of all is that they have been, for the most part, successful.
The Modern History of the Extraterrestrial Movement
The UFO movement really began in 1936 when Nazi Germany recovered a crashed UFO. They had their top scientists working to copy and understand this technology. When the allied forces invaded Germany, this entire project and technology was discovered and sent shock waves through the United States government.
In the 1940’s there was a great increase in extraterrestrial activity. The single most important event was probably the Roswell crash. The Roswell crash occurred on July 7, 1947 near Roswell, New Mexico. A UFO crashed and the bodies of four dead aliens were found. The corpses were of a smallish size, with large heads, basically reptilian in appearance. This again sent shock waves through the powers that be.
Between 1947 and 1952 the United States Government obtained at least 16 crashed or downed alien UFO crafts and 65 alien bodies. One live alien was recovered.
An alien craft was found on February 13, 1948 on a mesa near Aztec, New Mexico. Another craft was located on march 25, 1949 in White Sands, New Mexico. It was over 100 feet in diameter and a total of 17 alien bodies were recovered from the two crafts. Of even greater significance was the discovery of a large number of human body parts stored within both of these vehicles. This was coded as "Ultra Top Secret" because of the perceived panic that might occur if this information leaked out to the general public. During the early years the United States Air Force and the CIA controlled the alien secret. The CIA was originally formed by presidential executive order for the express purpose of dealing with this alien situation. The live alien that was found had been found wandering in the desert from the 1949 Roswell crash and was named "Ebe". Ebe stands for extraterrestrial biological entity. Ebe had a tendency to lie and would only give answers to questions that he desired to answer.
"Ebe" began to open up more after the first year. In 1951 Ebe became ill. American doctors had no idea how to medically deal with Ebe because his system was chlorophyll based and processed food into energy much the same as plants do. On June 2nd, 1952 Ebe died. The movie ET. is based on the story of Ebe. In an attempt to save Ebe and to gain favor with this technologically superior race, the United States began broadcasting a call for help into vast regions of space.
President Truman had been keeping our allies, including the Soviet Union, informed of the developing alien problem. This had been done in case the aliens turned out to be a threat to the human race. During Dwight Eisenhower’s first year in office, which was in 1953, at least 10 more discs were recovered along with 26 dead and 4 live aliens. Eisenhower did not reveal the secret to the congress. In stead he turned to his friend and fellow member on the Council of Foreign Relations, (Secret government) Nelson Rockefeller. Eisenhower and Rockefeller began secretly planning a secret group to supervise this alien situation. This group became known as the MJ12.
In 1953 astronomers discovered large objects in space which were moving towards the earth. At first it was believed they were asteroids. Later evidence proved that the objects could only be space ships. Project SIGNA intercepted alien radio communications. Project SIGNA, through radio communications using the computer binary language, was able to arrange face to face landings and contact with alien beings from another planet. The movie "Close Encounters" is a fictionalized version of this event. An alien was left with us after this meeting as a pledge that they would return and formalize a treaty.
This initial group of aliens were from Zeta Reticuli and have often been referred to as the "greys". They are very small in stature, about four or five feet tall. They looked nothing like human beings of the Adam Kadmon style as we are used to. They had big heads, more almond shaped eyes and long arms.
In the meantime a race of humanoid aliens landed at Homestead Air Force Base in Florida, and successfully communicated with the US. Government. This group warned us of this alien race that was orbiting the equator. They were warning us of the ’greys’, and a reptilian extraterrestrial race from Orion. The reptilian race have a reptilian looking head with a humanoid looking physical body.
The advanced positive humanoid looking extraterrestrials offered to help us with all our technological and spiritual problems, however they had a requirement. They demanded that we dismantle and destroy our nuclear weapons. Our government refused. A third landing occurred at Edwards Air Force Base in 1954. The base was closed for three days and no one was allowed to enter or leave during that time. Eisenhower arranged to be in Palm Springs on vacation. On the appointed day he was spirited off to the base. The excuse was given to the press that he was visiting a dentist. Five UFO craft landed, and Eisenhower met with the aliens. All these landings were filmed. This alien group again was the greys or beings from Zeta Reticuli.
A formal treaty between the alien nation and the United States government was signed. We officially received our first ambassador from outer space who was the same being who stayed in the first landing. His name and title was his "Omnipotent Highness Krill". The treaty, basically stated that the aliens would not interfere in our affairs and we would not interfere in theirs. We would keep their presence on earth a secret. They would furnish us with our advanced technological development. They would not make any treaty with any other nation on earth.
They could abduct humans on a limited and periodic basis for the purposes of medical examination and monitoring of our development. With the stipulation that the humans would not be harmed, and would be returned to their point of abduction, and that they would have no memory of the event.
The greys were supposed to furnish the majestic twelve group with a list of all human contacts and abductees on a regular scheduled basis. It was also agreed that each nation would receive the ambassador of the other for as long as the treaty remained in force. It was further agreed that the alien nation and the United States would exchange 16 personnel with the purpose of learning from each other. The alien guests would remain on earth. The human guests would go to their planet, and then return and then an exchange would take place. This was re-enacted in the movie "Close Encounters". It was also agreed that bases would be constructed underground for the use of the alien nation and that two bases would be constructed for joint use of the alien nation and the United States government. Exchange of technology would occur in the jointly occupied bases. These alien bases would be constructed under Indian reservation in the four corners area of Utah, Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona, and one in the Mojave Dessert near Yucca, California.
A secret military fund was put together to build 75 deep underground facilities. The excuse was that these were needed in case of nuclear war.
It became obvious by 1955 that the aliens had deceived Eisenhower and broken the treaty. The secret government had basically sold out the American people without their permission. Abductions were occurring at hundreds of times the rate agreed upon. The records of these were not being provided. Animal mutilations were occurring all over the country. And there were reports of human mutilations occasionally happening also, although this was much rarer. It was also suspected that all abductees had not been returned.
The Soviet Union was suspected of interacting with the greys and this later proved to be true. The greys were using humans and animals for a source of glandular secretions, enzymes, hormonal secretions, blood plasma and genetic experiments. The aliens said that this was necessary for their survival.
They stated that their genetic structure had deteriorated and that they were no longer able to reproduce. They said that if they were unable to improve their genetic structure, their race would soon cease to exist. I, personally believe that this is true, however. The greys were also found to be impregnating human females and somehow causing an early termination of the pregnancies to secure a cross breed of the infant. They were also implanting humans on earth with both mechanical and non-mechanical implants for biological monitoring and tracking purposes.
It is hard to believe that the United States government has provided these clearly selfishly oriented beings underground military bases all over this country. In a set of papers I obtained, called "The Dulce Papers", it is said that over 18,000 greys live at the Dulce, New Mexico base alone. These papers say that the greys and the reptilian beings are in league with each other.
Some of the technology in these bases was provided by the greys and is way beyond the understanding of the United States government. There are apparently seven levels or more, with each level downward meeting a higher security clearance. In levels 6 and 7 are apparently nightmarish Frankenstein type experiments going on, mixing human and animal genetics.
Some of the reports of things going on there are too disturbing to even mention in this book. Needless to say, what is going on is not in harmony with God’s divine plan. As time has gone on, the greys and reptilians have become more and more bold in doing whatever they please, to serve their own purposes.
The United States government has delineated over 70 species of aliens trying to contact us. We have obtained and have in our possession over 40 flying saucer discs, many of which we have reproduced and are testing and flying ourselves. We have over 100 bodies of dead aliens.
Alternative 2 and Alternative 3
Alternative 2 and Alternative 3 are, again secret programs of the "secret government" having to do with the colonization of the moon and Mars. Alternative 2 was the program for the colonization of the moon. This occurred long before our first official public landing on the moon by astronaut Armstrong.
Long before this we had already engaged in a joint venture with the Soviet Union, had set up bases there which continue to exist to this day. There are also alien bases on the dark side of the moon. There is also more gravity and atmosphere on the moon than we have been let to believe. For more information on this there is an excellent book by Fred Steckling which even has 125 NASA photographs blown up showing some of the strange things going on.
The basic plan of the Alternative 2 program was to build a vast network of underground cities and tunnels in which a select representation of all cultures and occupations would survive in case of a nuclear holocaust on earth.
Alternative 3 was a similar joint Soviet Union and United States plan to set up a similar colony on Mars. A space probe landed on Mars and confirmed the existence of an environment that could support life. Not long afterward the construction of a colony on Mars began in earnest. This information was obviously not released to the American people.
This colonization went on for many, many years, however it is my understanding that this project has been abandoned for reasons unknown. Many of you may have seen some of the NASA pictures of Mars, showing previous alien civilizations. There is a clear picture of pyramids and a sculpted face that is beyond a shadow of a doubt created by some form of extraterrestrial intelligence.
There was apparently an Alternate 1 plan that had to do with the idea of using nuclear devices to blast holes in the stratosphere to let the greenhouse heat and pollution escape. This plan was abandoned as ill advised by the scientists in charge. (Thank God!) Apparently part of this secret government plan was also to depopulate the earth’s population. As part of this plan there was the implementation of birth control, sterilization, and the introduction of deadly microbes to slow the growth of the earth’s population.
The plague of AIDS was created by the United States government as a form of bacteriological warfare. It was purposely given to specifically selected targeted populations including blacks, Hispanics and homosexuals. One of the ways they did this was to lace hepatitis vaccines with the virus. This was a bacteriological warfare experiment done on the people of the United States that has gone out of control. Another one of the great coverups of all times is that it can only be passed on through sexual involvement. From all the sources of information I have, this is blatantly false, and a lie, just as the World Health Organizations statement saying that the AIDS virus came from a monkey in Africa is. The AIDS virus can be passed in saliva. It is not a homosexual disease. Condoms don’t always protect you because the AIDS virus is so infinitesimally small. It has been proven that the AIDS virus can live in an open air petrie dish for 10 to 14 days.
One of the things killing people faster than the aids virus is the present treatment for the AIDS virus. From the information I have received, AZT, the common drug for the AIDS virus is absolute poison to the human body and is killing people much faster than even AIDS itself.
Lastly, the biggest coverup of all is that there is no cure. People can and are being cured from AIDS. Hanna Kroeger, an herbalist from Colorado, has come up with a cure for AIDS and many other doctors dealing with energetic medicine and holistic medicine are having marvelous results.
The most important thing I can say in this entire book I will say right now. You are not a victim of AIDS. You are not a victim of the Dark Brotherhood. You are not a victim of the greys or reptilian race. And you are not a victim of your mind, emotions or physical body, or anything else in God’s infinite universe. You are God. God created you perfectly and has given you personal power and free choice.
The only affect that anyone or anything has on you is that affect you let it have on you. No alien can abduct you if you own your God given power. The same principle applies across the board. You are not a victim of disease. There is no such thing as contagious diseases. This is another myth of the Dark Brotherhood. This applies to AIDS also. There are only people with low resistance.
If you eat well, exercise, get sunshine and fresh air, think right, and spiritualize your emotions, and stay attuned to God, and your own true identity as the Christ, the Buddha, the Atma, or the Eternal Self, nothing can touch you including AIDS.
The Secret Government and Politics
The one president that wasn’t under the hold of the secret government was John Kennedy. When he found out about a lot of the secret government activities he was planning to blow the whistle on some of them. This is why he was assassinated. If it isn’t an obvious fact to you already, his assassination was part of a widespread conspiracy of the secret government, as was Robert Kennedy’s death. Again the American people bought the story. It is amazing to me how the secret government is able to get away with the things they do.
One of the main ways the secret government has financed all their projects is through drug money. George Bush was one of the original people that was approached to help the CIA start their program of selling drugs. His former Secretary of State, James Baker is even higher up in the secret government ladder than George Bush was. George Bush, as you know later became the head of the CIA. The fact that these men and the entire corrupt staff have been voted out of office marks a great awakening for the American people, and the beginning of the end for the Dark Brotherhood’s reign of control according to Djwhal Khul.
The secret government, or Council on Foreign Relations and Trilateral Commission are currently in complete control of the alien technology we have obtained and in complete control of the nation’s economy. Eisenhower was the last president to apparently have a complete overview of the alien problem. The complete nature of their control can be seen when even the presidents of the United States are often not told what is going on. Succeeding presidents have only been told what the majestic twelve wanted them to know.
These greedy selfish servants of the Dark Brotherhood must be stopped. It is time for the American people to fully wake up to what’s been going on and reclaim their government. The people who run the government are supposed to be the servants of the American people, not servants of their own selfish greedy interest. To take back our government, we must reclaim our power within ourselves and use our power to make changes in and on the earthly world. The time of living in a temple or a cave and just praying and meditating is over. We must bring heaven to earth. This is the divine plan. A great many spiritual people don’t take enough responsibility politically for changing the earthly institutions of this world. God’s divine plan is not to ascend to God and forget about the earth. God’s divine plan is to make earth a heavenly place to live. This means changing the institutions and egotistical structures that have governed our planet. This will obviously be helped with the coming of the Lord Maitreya and the externalization of the Hierarchy that is now taking place.
Again, however, it is not for them to do it. It is for us to do it, the common people. For we, in truth, are the externalization of the Spiritual Hierarchy. It is time for us to claim our power and take action, and support our president and congressmen on all levels of government. If we don’t take an interest, then the only information they receive is from the greedy lobbyists whose only care is for their particular interest group. We need more spiritual people (politicians, lawyers, bankers, counselors, doctors, real estate agents, etcâ€Ã,¦.) It is absolutely essential that we take responsibility now because if we abdicate our power, then we deserve what we are getting. If we don’t own our power then someone else will.
The seeds of this revolution were seen in this last presidential election with Ross Perot and Clinton. The American people have voted for a change. We, as the American people must continue this change and momentum, and not fall back into passivity and automatic pilot. If we don’t own our power and take back our government then the Dark Brotherhood, the secret government, the negative extraterrestrials will!!!
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Extraterrestrials and Other Governmental Cover-ups! Part II
By Dr Joshua David Stone
Nikola Tesla
Another one of the great coverups of the secret government and the military industrial complex has been the inventions of Nikola Tesla. Nikola Tesla was one of the greatest inventors in the history of this planet. Recent channelings have said that he actually was an extraterrestrial who was brought here as a young child. The Tibetan foundation channelings say he was a soul extension of a great cosmic being known as Melchizadek. He was raised in Yugoslavia and came to the United States in early adulthood. The secret government has systematically tried to strike his name from our history books because they are so frightened of the public learning about his inventions.
Nikola Tesla was really a channel. Inventions would come to him in his mind in pictures and diagrams perfectly explained. He could create a prototype of his inventions right off the assembly line from what appeared to him in his consciousness. In his biography it was said that he was in telepathic communication with extraterrestrials. He was definitely here on a mission of service. The only problem is he ran into the Illuminatti and selfish greedy men in the later 1800’s and early 1900’s, that blocked the manifestation of his inventions.
One of his inventions that would have revolutionized this world was a small antenna that would have been attached to the top of every house, office building, shop and factory. This antenna would have supplied all the electricity they needed without meters or wires of any kind. This antenna tapped the limitless universal supply of cosmic energy. Then people like J.P. Morgan told him to forget the idea because there would be no way to make money off people. Tesla was blocked at his every turn. If this invention were implemented, just look at the money people would have saved, the lack of pollution that would be in the atmosphere, and the lack of need to fight wars in the middle east over oil. This was far too threatening for the secret government and military industrial complex and the greedy power elite.
Tesla invented some sort of machine that could place an energy beam, or wall of light around the United States that could have prevented any country from creating war against us. He also built a machine that could be used for interplanetary communication. He invented a method to counteract gravity. He invented technology that could make planes and battleships undetectable by radar and actually disappear. He invented a system of alternating electrical current which far surpassed Edison’s inventions, however, was blocked again by the greedy powers that be.
Tesla has been said to have made over 1200 inventions. Tesla designed what he called the sphere. A powerless aircraft that could have rivaled the jets of 1958. In 1891, Tesla built a cosmic ray engine, a free energy device, to utilize the cosmic rays. Tesla actually contacted spaceships on his interplanetary communication device.
With Tesla’s inventions all TV towers, telephone poles, towers and wires would not be required. His anti-war machine that created the wall of light would have made Reagan’s star wars project completely unnecessary. His antigravity machine would have allowed us to begin interplanetary travel, as the UFO’s we see, are able to do.
Nikola Tesla was a total humanitarian and selfless servant for mankind. Can you imagine what this world would be like if the government and powers that be used his inventions. The only real use of his inventions and technology has been by the military industrial complex, for warfare purposes which was not Tesla’s intention.
This is only one example of how the secret government and greedy industrialists prevent this world from evolving. What happened to Tesla is happening every day of the year to inventors even now. We hear in the news about some car that gets 200 miles to the gallon, or runs on water, or runs on solar energy, and the car and oil companies buy the patents and somehow prevent it from ever coming about.
Do you ever wonder why more of what I am telling you doesn’t come out on the television. Well, guess who owns the three main television networks. You guessed right. Members of the Trilateral Commission and Council on Foreign Relations. Any time a controversial story surfaces, the powers that be go into action to stifle it.
Other Governmental Coverups
One of the most disturbing governmental coverups to me personally is the systematic conscious effort by the secret government, Illuminatti, and Dark Brotherhood, to poison the American people. First of all we have this enormous amount of canned, processed, frozen foods that fill 90% of our supermarkets that are filled with chemicals, and preservatives that are poisonous to the human body.
Then on every street corner is a fast food restaurant filled with these same chemicals that systematically and gradually poison the liver and weaken the immune system. Our produce is then covered with pesticides. Our air is polluted from lack of strict environmental controls over cars and factories.
We have ripped a gapping hole in the ozone level which causes certain rays from the sun to enter our atmosphere that is not healthy to the human body. They put mercury fillings into our teeth which are absolutely poisonous to the human body. Mercury is an extraordinarily toxic substance to the human body and usually within ten or fifteen years the fillings can begin to crack and this toxic substance is leaked into the physical body.
In Los Angeles, and I am sure in other cities, they spray malathion to get rid of the medfly. It is such a toxic substance that the nights they spray, the entire city has to cover their cars with a car cover because the malathion will actually take the paint off your car. Yet that incredible advocate for the American people, the FDA says it is not harmful to the human physical body. It will take the paint off your car but won’t poison the physical body. A process like this is systematically destroying the immune systems of an entire city. Then to make matters worse, in many cities they fluoridate our water supply because they say it helps prevent tooth decay in children. Fluorine is poisonous to the human physical body.
Then to continue this story they vaccinate our children which the average mother and father thinks is an incredible service the government is doing, which, in fact, is just the opposite. The vaccinations continue to break down the immune system. Then the children are fed and given all kinds of sugar at school which continues the process of immune system weakening.
Then because we have not used inventions like Nikola Tesla’s there are incredible amounts of electrical power lines in our homes and cities which have a much more negative affect on the physical body than people realize. People are getting serious illness from sitting in front of computers all day. Police officers are getting cancer from using the police radar guns. This is why there have been recent inventions like the Tesla watch, which is another invention of Nikola Tesla. It protects an individual from these low grade electrical magnetic frequencies.
There is an entire new field of technology called radionics and psychotronics which ideally uses machines to send oneself positive currents of energy for healing purposes. This, of course, has been stifled by the government and the AMA, and instead this technology is being used by the pentagon and war machine in both the united states and the Soviet Union for warfare purposes. They use these types of machines and actually build gigantic towers to send negative electrical frequencies of energy to destroy individuals and groups of people. This type of warfare is very insidious because the people being attacked cannot even see they are being attacked. This, unfortunately, is the warfare technology of the future which is being developed now and must be stopped.
The secret government and Illuminatti have no respect for the environment. All they care about is power and money, so they allow our environment to be systematically destroyed which continues to destroy the health of the American people and the people of this world. The ocean, rivers, and lakes are polluted.
We allow deforestation of the rain forests and the forests in the United States. This de-forestation all over the world which screwing up the oxygen balance on the planet. We are also causing a green house reaction to occur from the burning of all the fossil fuels which aren’t really needed.
Then the minds of our children and ourselves are being systematically poisoned by all the violence and low life activity on television, which poisons our minds, emotions, and physical bodies.
The newest plan of the Federal Drug Administration is to irradiate our food. What this means is that they are already shooting radioactivity at our fruits and vegetables and other foods to kill microorganisms. The only problem is that radiation is the single most poisonous substance to the human body in God’s infinite universe.
The secret government loves this idea for it is a way for the department of energy to get rid of their radioactive waste. To add insult to injury it has been decreed by the FDA that irradiated food does not require labeling. In those cases where it does have to be labeled, all they are required to do is print a sweet looking flower symbol with the heading "Pico Wave".
The Dark Brotherhood has such a hold on our health system that there is even legislation on the docket now that is planning to take away our right to buy vitamins, minerals, and herbs in health food stores without a doctor’s prescription. Another one of the major blunders of the FDA was the allowing of Nutrasweet on the market. This low calorie sweetener’s scientific name is Aspartame. Dr. Woodrow Monte, head of the Food Science and Nutrition Laboratory at Arizona State University says about Nutrasweet; "If you tried to design a food additive that could cause problems for humans, you’d have to try real hard to design one as bad as aspartame." He continues to say, "This stuff is a drug, but is being used as a food additive."
On Fluoridation of Water
Dr. Robert Harris, Professor of Biochemistry of Nutrition, at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, says, "Fluorine is a toxic element â€Ã,¦which has been shown to interfere with important processes in the body." Dr. Charles T. Betts, D.D.S. states, "Fluorine is a poison which is cumulative in the body, similar to radium. No antidote is known."
In regard to all the health related statements I have made in this chapter, I don’t claim to be a medical doctor and for legal purposes I will say that these things I have said are just my personal opinion and you should consult your holistically oriented medical doctor in all cases. However, as a "concerned citizen", I believe that if you research for yourself what I have been saying, in my opinion, you will find it all to be true.
The secret government and Illuminatti have taken the power and control because we have given it to them. The American people’s power can be seen in the last presidential election. The power of the people can be seen in the Soviet Union and Germany bringing an end to communism.
People are waking up now. The time is now. We must, in mass consciousness, wake up from our apathy, laziness, and indolence in these matters. The first step is knowing the problem. This has been clearly stated. The second step is being part of the solution. What is the solution? The solution is many fold: One is to talk about these things with people, to raise consciousness, to support our political leaders, to write letters to our congressman and senators and legislators, to vote, to give money to causes we support. It is to write books or give lectures, to educate people. to pray, affirm and visualize what we want to happen. It is to take action in any way we are guided. No person can do everything, however God has given each of us a gift and part of the puzzle to fulfill.
The Philadelphia Experiment
One other of the great coverups by the United States government was another invention of Nikola Tesla, which was used in a secret military program called "The Philadelphia Experiment". The Philadelphia experiment began as an experiment by the US. Navy in achieving "radar invisibility" for its battleships against the Japanese and Nazi’s during World War II. Some of the greatest scientific minds in the world were involved in this experiment including Albert Einstein and Tesla.
They did a test run experiment on an empty battleship and the experiment not only provided invisibility from radar, but the ship actually disappeared from view completely from the physical eye. The US Navy was very excited about this and immediately wanted to put real Naval personnel on the ship for the next experiment. Nikola Tesla was dead set against this and he turned out to be right. The ship disappeared and returned, however many of the crew members had burst into flames, and were actually frozen into the steel structures of the ship itself. Many of the other men went insane. We were dealing with a technology that we had no business dealing with yet. According to Al Bielek, (one of the crew members), the ship was actually transported in time and space to a grassy area to the Montauk Army Base on Long Island. The year was 1983. To Al Bielek’s account a UFO craft was sucked along with the battleship and was later dismantled there.
The navy tried one more experiment even after these disastrous results. However, this time again without a personnel. Once again the battleship, Eldridge, completely disappeared without even a waterline to mark its invisible presence. When it finally reappeared to physical vision the ship was damaged and half of its equipment was "missing". The powers that be, pronounced that they had had enough of such experiments.
I have told of this account to just make you aware of some of the technologies the government is working with that are totally hidden from the American people. It is time for the American people to really know what is going on behind the scenes, instead of being treated like sheep. The ability to make a gigantic battleship completely disappear and teleport through time and space and return again is quite extraordinary. If this technology could ever be truly understood without harming the people involved, and placed in the hands of spiritual scientists, rather than the military, some of the possibilities and potentials are mind boggling. Many of the UFO space crafts are able to travel such long distances in such a short period of time, using technologies such as this.
The Secret Government and a Staged Alien Attack
There is one last scenario that many UFO researchers have uncovered that Djwhal Khul has confirmed to be a potential, which has to do with a "staged" alien invasion. The reason for this is that with the end of the cold war and communism, it has left us without an enemy.
There is no longer a reason to build weapons. There is no longer a reason to let the CIA and FBI have free reign in their secret government activities. There is no longer a reason to take away our rights and manipulate and control the people as they have been doing. They no longer have a reason to keep us in fear. If they can’t keep us in fear, they can’t control us in the same way.
The secret government, the Illuminatti, the Trilateral Commission is very frightened of the prospects of peace, and certainly a world of spirituality, and the new age movement. Their area of expertise is domination, control, manipulation, exploitation, and deceit. One idea they are tossing around that has been uncovered, is to stage a fake alien invasion to create a new enemy. The panic that will be created will allow them to continue their illegal activities under the guise of a world crisis.
The secret government is also very frightened of the good aliens which make up at least 95% of all alien activity. This above mentioned idea may be a little more difficult with Bill Clinton and Al Gore as president. It would have been much easier with George Bush as president. This could be a last desperate attempt for them to stay in power, because on some level, I think they realize that the world is changing much faster than they can control.
I think they unconsciously realize that there reign of terror may soon be coming to an end. Even though this may be the case, do not underestimate their desperate attempts to remain in power. It is an ’absolute fact" that they murdered John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy. And every other president who has crossed them has either been assassinated or there has been assassination attempt. I have a video tape that I got from Bill Cooper that "clearly shows" that the man driving the car that John Kennedy was riding in killed Kennedy. It is as plain as day. You can see the gun, and him shooting it.
These are desperate men who will do anything to stay in power. Their reign of terror will be coming to an end as we move into the new age. Please be on the look out for their deception.
The secret government and Trilateral Commission is also very frightened of the positive extraterrestrials. They are quite aware of their desire for a more loving and spiritual society free of nuclear weapons and so on. They realize that if the positive extraterrestrials get the public’s attention this means the end of their power. This is another reason they are covering up what is really going on and another reason why they may try to stage a fake invasion, to try to stigmatize all alien contacts as being negative.
I want to end this chapter by saying that there is, in reality, no way the secret government and Illuminatti can ultimately stay in power too much longer. There are too many spiritual forces at work that make their destiny inevitable, yet this doesn’t mean that we can be passive and wait until it happens. They will be removed when we collectively awaken to the need to do so.
Channelings of Vywamus on the Subject of Negative Aliens and the Secret Government
One of the finest channels on the planet, before she recently ascended, was Janet McClure, the founder of the Tibetan Foundation. In my research I came across a channeling she did in Sedona Arizona, on August 31, 1989 which was published in a wonderful magazine called "Emergence! A Journal for the Golden Age", published in Sedona, Arizona. In this article Vywamus said some amazing things and confirmed many things I had found elsewhere in my research.
He confirmed that there are only about 5% of extraterrestrials that are causing problems. Of this 5% many have been scientists who have no understanding of their emotional body. This type of invasion which earth has been experiencing, He said, has occurred seven or eight different times in the history of our planet. Humanity has always won out, usually because of help from the Higher Forces.
He said another very interesting thing about the secret government and Trilateral Commission. He said that 95 individuals are controlling our planet. They live all over the world and usually are connected to wealthy families of long standing. They are also connected to great banking conglomerates and great holding companies. These 95 people and their families are also connected into 35 other planets. What this means is that the Trilateral Commission, in a sense is not just on this planet, but is a galactic problem.
The negative extraterrestrials are not very well united as a group, and this makes them a lot easier to deal with. The fact that they are run by their negative ego makes them very fragmented, and most concerned with their own self interest, which will be the thing that causes their fall. There are only a couple of planets, however, that have real power into the earth.
Vywamus refers to them as not black or white, but more like gray in terms of their psychological make-up. What this means is that they have a whole range of mixed intentions. It is interesting that Vywamus should use this expression given that the Zeta Reticuli beings are often referred to as the grays.
Vywamus also confirmed that the CIA and this power structure do control the selling of drugs and use the money for the underground bases and secret government activities. Vywamus also said that the negative extraterrestrial invasion didn’t begin in 1947 with the Roswell crashed flying saucer. He said it has been going on for 500 years. 1947 is just when the United States discovered actual proof.
Another fascinating insight to this alien situation is that the grays who are having all the physical health problems, are sick because they come from another ’universe". Vywamus termed it that they are "wearing the energy from another universe." Apparently you can’t just change universes, because each universe has its own unique source and energy matrix.
Vywamus says that these beings could be helped by spiritual Masters from the Galactic Core, or by healers on earth who allow Masters from the Galactic Core to work through them to change their energy matrix. Vywamus has been amazed that they have been able to survive as long as they have.
Vywamus also said that there used to be a physical civilization on Mars that has now departed. He also confirmed that we, on earth, did have a base on Mars. He also confirmed that the secret government and their henchmen actually kidnapped people and forced them to go to mars and work on this project. The information on Alternative Three is all totally true. The colony has been dismantled in recent times, however. One other interesting piece of information from Brian Grattan, who wrote "The Mahatma Book" is that he says the anti-Christ is on the planet and he is approximately 34 years old (1993) and he is an "Arab" This is not surprising when you look at two of the most recent anti-Christs (Sadam Hussein, Kohmeini). He will apparently look like a savior at first, however once he gets power he will be one of the worst that this world has ever known. He will not win, however, because the earth is moving into the status of a sacred planet and becoming forth dimensional. It has become much too advanced. There is such an enormous influx of spiritual energy occurring on this planet that their doom is inevitable.
i dont get the whole density thing?
i know 3D
but what is 4D or 5 or 6??
how can their be any more?
please elaborate
thanks
Howdy RedRiderNo22,
There are layers to the physical universe. As we increase our awareness we recognize more aspects of nature and the universe. A plant is barely aware of its surroundings, everything it needs is provided by nature right where it is. It is totally dependent on the grace of nature for survival. Animals have a higher awareness and are granted greater powers because of this awareness. Animals can move about to find what they need to survive by foraging and hunting, they are in a higher density. Humans have even greater powers, they can think rationally and invent tools to help them survive, thus a higher density. The plant is just barely aware of animal life, usually when the animal is eating the plant. Animals are aware and acknowledge human life but they cannot perceive us as more than another animal. Humans are at the top of the food chain here and we understand what is at lower densities, but when we look up the density chain we fail to realize the significant difference until we increase our awareness and comprehend a higher density. 4th and 5th density humans walk among the 3rd density humans on a regular basis. However the 3rd density humans cannot comprehend that there are higher density beings right next to them. In physical appearances there is not a significant difference. The difference is their awareness of the universe around them and their mental advancement. Even higher masters walk among us but we do not notice them because they can cloak their presence in a very normal looking body. They will not make their presence known, usually they are here to observe, and study us...
Edit: Forgot to mention something. When there is a difference of 2 levels of density the higher density being can be invisible and intangible to the lower density being. However the higher density being can make itself visible and tangible to the lower density being at will by making their presence know consciously. This is not a science of absolutes. Much of this spiritual sciences stuff is subject to will and awareness...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: redriderno22 on September 25, 2008, 08:56:17 PMbut what is 4D or 5 or 6??
Our minds can't really understand it. For 4D, you could imagine that it would be a room where you have length, width, depth and time as dimensions.
It's somewhat easier to understand if you reduce it by 1 dimension and imagine that (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWyTxCsIXE4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWyTxCsIXE4)) and then assume the transition from 2D to 3D is somewhat similar as from 3D to 4D. One funny thing is that some contradictions disappear if you increase dimensions. For example, if one would see a circle and another a triangle in 2D, it could still be the same object in 3D (a cone), just looked at from a different angle/perspective. Now, after 3D it's actually not kind of "linear" anymore so that means an object can have many different projections, not just 2 like in the example, if there are more dimensions. You can figuratively apply this to non-geometric things also, like opinions (or truths, to a degree).
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Quote from: redriderno22 on September 25, 2008, 08:56:17 PM
i dont get the whole density thing?
i know 3D
but what is 4D or 5 or 6??
how can their be any more?
please elaborate
thanks
redriderno
One of the great laws of life goes something like this.
As above so below. As below so above.
This may sound overly simple but it can be applied to many things that would otherwise be almost impossible to wrap your mind around.
The different densitys are a series of for lack of better words universes within universes .
There are differences between the different densitys in short the main driver of the differences is sometimes called vibration
Here in the 3rd density our vibration rate is fairly slow.
Each higher density has a higher vibration.
I know it is a little hard to understand so lets apply the " as above so below " law
We need to find something that acts similar on a smaller scale
In this case the something is light.
If you think about the way light behaves .......it has different densitys at different frequencys .....only we call them colors .
Like the different densitys the different colors are not actually seperate from eachother. there is a smooth blending between colors . A smooth transition of frequency / vibration
This lack of a specific point of change is part of what makes the densitys so hard to understand. With colors we just see it as blue or green . With density the differences are much more subtle .
How could an acended master become invisible ? He would simply shift into the the density that corresponds to UV (or higher ) in our light spectrum .
UV light actually can carry more power than visible light because it is higher frequency.
Same thing with moving into a higher dimension / density Higher density = higher vibration = higher potential power.
You could say that our color world here has 6 basic densitys yellow, orange, red green, blue, and violet.
Our normal world here is the 3rd and 4th densitys. the 5th density is getting into the UV range
Some say that there are only 12 densitys I personally don't believe that.
If you look at light at higher and higher frequency , the highest I can think of at this time is gama rays.
Gama rays are very hard to detect ....... from this level
Some day in the very distant future we may be living at a vibration level comparable with gama rays .
At that point I am very sure that gama rays will be an entire spectrum of light and there will be other higher and stronger rays as had to detect as gama rays are for us now.
I hope that this helps
gary
Are you guys for real? Do you really believe this stuff?
Maybe you need medication-------cancel that--------you are probably taking too much already.
Hans von Lieven
Howdy Hans,
I'm a White Knight. It is my job to research extraterrestrial intelligence and UFO activity. I have amassed a massive database of information of this type. When this thread opened up it was just a natural reaction for me to dump a plethora of information on it. It is a lot of work to do this. Actually I wish I could sit back, and be lazy, and get high all day. But lately with the recent flurry of alien activity I have been super busy. I have been denying my habits for spiritual clarity so that I don't screw up my job. After this ship arrives on 10/14/2008 Felix.Lamet is going to buy me a barrel of beer and I am going to take a nice long vacation. Maybe I will go to Australia and hang out with you Hans, you like beer right? So how is the surfing down there. Hopefully there are a lot of bikinis to make the beach look good. Can you get any decent reefer? Well, I already know you think I am cookoo pops, so there is no real reason to try and convince you that I am not. See you in late October...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 26, 2008, 03:09:38 AM
Are you guys for real? Do you really believe this stuff?
Maybe you need medication-------cancel that--------you are probably taking too much already.
Hans von Lieven
i believe that the world will change, and here we are looking to all inputs to try to see what is coming
Aliens are coming ? nobody can be sure, the future is always changing
is you want many testimony of real people from the secret governement go to projectcamelot, there is a lot of things going on , there is a governement over the governement
if you do not believe in the testimony from your brothers, then you'll have to realise it by yourself, then begin to study 911 WTC, use your own scientist mind , and look the speed of the collapsing of the towers, that speed is free falling breaking the newton law
then you'll get a shock and you might continu your own investigation without any testimony
we need to examine the testimony, channelling is all another story, but testimony come from real humans
and when you have a lot of testimony, then you can believe
It would seem at the moment there is a rapid acceleration of energy meaning are thoughts and beliefs can change reality around us much quicker and more obviously. We can use this to our advantage to bring about changes we want and expect. From the most recent channelings I have found this is certainly the case, and it would appear we are winnning with the nay sayers.
Channel UPDATE!
Dear Ones, How we love your approach to the calamities that are taking place, as there is something in the Human psyche that is strong and powerful when confronted by a challenge. Your willpower is being put to good use to set up a wall of defiance composed of energies that are directing the creation of an alternative scenario. You are saying â€Ã...“enough is enoughâ€Ã, and sense that you can influence the events that are taking place on Earth. I am to tell you that you are winning this battle, and weakening the ability of the dark to further impose their will upon you. Legions of Lightworkers stand with you sending out even higher energies, and its collective power is very much restricting the advancement of the dark
Is it not in some ways a paradox that when the going gets tough, you the people are galvanised into action. You are born survivors, and through many lifetimes have confronted the dark forces and sown the seeds of victory. It has taken a long time to reach your present position, and appropriately it comes when you are on the verge of your greatest achievement in this present cycle. It is in accordance with the plan of the High Councils and Elohim for the destiny of Earth and its people. What appears simply a physical confrontation is in fact occurring on a number of different levels and you are lifting yourselves up, and driving the dark forces back until they will eventually leave your vibration. What a glorious future awaits you as you take your place amongst the ascended Beings, having achieved your own Ascension.
I address the Lightworkers and confirm that your progress is tied to your level of consciousness, and every effort you make to raise it up is creating the very opportunity you seek to manifest. Whether you realise it or not, you came into this lifetime to contribute to the upliftment of Humanity. Others are yet to awaken, but what you are doing is having an effect on them and tugging at their heartstrings. A balancing is always taking place and forces of Light counteract the dark energies constantly, and ensure you are able to continue with your task of bringing more souls to the point of awakening to their true selves.
Behind everything that occurs is the motivating force of Light that comes from your Central Sun. The God Force is being given to you at such levels as you can accommodate, and your power is increasing tenfold. I see the wonderful Light that encircles the Earth, and it grows faster than ever as more souls respond to its call. Some already feel a calling and seek their place in the order of things, and if patient they will be guided to the people or situation that will reveal it to them. All Lightworkers have a goal to achieve but do not measure your value against others, as all contribute to the whole and each one of you are unique. It is given to each person to call upon help from above, and a prayer or meditative request will bring about a response. Go direct to God if you will and know that every word or whisper is heard, and not only that but it is also answered. It has been mentioned many times that you are always with Guides and Angelic Beings, but know that you must give them permission to help you.
Some of you have taken on karma that will necessitate that you experience need, and you carry this burden so that others can respond. There is so much need on Earth at this time, and you will not have to look far to give to others in service to them. Working together and giving of yourself has been sadly neglected, and need has been promoted by the dark who have set different classes apart. Material success has been hoisted upon you as your goal, and those who fall by the wayside ignored. The unfairness and injustices of society has created a wide gulf between people. That must now be addressed, and the Oneness of All recognised and accepted.
You are Spiritual Beings finding your true selves within the confusing duality and dark influences, yet you shall rise above them. Your present world is changing, and you step out of a dark tunnel that is now revealing the Light at the end of it. The confusion and heavy overlay of darkness is falling away, as a new and higher energy draws you towards it. Feel it and wrap it around you and understand the promise that it brings. No more shall you slumber and dwell in the dark, it is time to rejoice and claim your heritage as fully-fledged beings of Light.
Many changes are afoot, not least of all the removal of the lower influences that have of necessity been contained within the magnetic field of Earth. They are being rapidly transmuted and clearing the way for the manifestation and upliftment of the new Earth. It was foreseen that the Forces of Light would be needed to pave the way for the Ascension path. Now greater forces that have accompanied Man for eons of time, no longer wait in the wings to meet you, but prepare to take the first opportunity to reveal their presence. I refer to not just your Space friends, but also those wonderful loving souls that you know as the Inner Earth Beings. You are no strangers to them, and in bygone lives have walked shoulder to shoulder with them.
You are like the Prodigal Son returning to your family, after having ventured far and wide in your search for experience and the truth. The Father looks on with great love and admiration, for your daring and bravery to face the challenges of duality. You lost your true identity and floundered many times, touching the depths and back up again. Now that journey is almost over as you awaken to whom you really are, and shed the karma of many, many lives to advance forevermore without such encumbrances.
Set your sights on whatever you imagine is manifesting in the way of uplifting changes, and visualise them forming now and you will help bring them in more quickly. Your reality is already moving rapidly forwards, and it will not be long before massive changes will sweep the world. You are all part of it, and many will be involved in that work having been chosen for your dedication and allegiance to the Light and Love. I bless you, and shine my Light upon you that you may bring the highest vibrations into being for the good of all. Let it evermore enfold you and change your worries and concerns, to be replaced by hope and fortitude. You are indeed great Beings of Light.
Thank you St. Germain.
Mike Quinsey.
Howdy Shooter001,
Wow, Awesome, I Love St. Germain....
Blessed Be...
Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 26, 2008, 03:09:38 AMAre you guys for real?
Well, who knows. maybe only you are real and (almost) all other forum participants are (ro)bots? Or even "worse": it's only you with a
dissociative identity disorder (formerly called
multiple personality disorder), and everybody is just an aspect of "you". How would you know for certain? ;D
Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 26, 2008, 03:09:38 AMDo you really believe this stuff?
I would assume most reserve the right to change their opinions because as awareness expands so do one's beliefs change. It's not wrong to have beliefs, they serve well at some stages of development. It's sometimes difficult to let go of old beliefs even if they don't really serve anymore. But it's
eventually unavoidable (this is one of the very few areas where free will doesn't apply [to the
if, not to the
when]).
Since I'm having fun, I'll create some arbitrary categories about users and balance here.
There are the ones who visit this forum who have to prove to themselves that they are alive by poking around more or less arbitrarily to elicit responses (whatever the responses may be, whatever it takes to get any response). Not very interesting group from my point of view.
There are the ones who have certain interests and use pure logic. More interesting group if ego doesn't screw up the logic all too often.
There are the ones who may have relatively strong beliefs (mostly instilled, be it religious or not, and mostly not really aware of them), but they feel that there is something more, or that something is not quite right. So they are in a way more open because they
would like to believe that there is more, but mind, belief system, environment, pride, etc., doesn't allow it. They would like to have proof in very specific (inside the box) ways. It's still creeping in though, and they start feeling threatened, because if only some of these alternative views might be correct, it would let their current belief system, on which they have built their sense of safety, fall apart like a house of cards. This can lead to quite some hostility, almost like a usually calm animal that feels threatened. It's like feeling the rug under one's feet being pulled and one is going off-balance. [However, after one has gone through a few of these rug-pulls one realizes that it's not the end.]
There are some more balanced groups. One (very) small group of them is pretty balanced but they feel the off-balance of others and unconsciously act it out on their behalf, confusing it with their own state. [Interestingly, those are the ones who would suspect it the least that this is happening to them.]
Of course there are many more possible "categories", balanced as well as unbalanced, and one doesn't have to be associated with only one, and it will obviously change also...
@ Drannom,
I am very much aware of the 9/11 footage. I must say that as an engineer with over 40 years in the field I have severe reservations accepting the official explanation. Not knowing the exact construction detail of the towers I would say that there was either a massive flaw in the design or something else is at work here. What that something else is I can only guess at. For a building to collapse in such orderly fashion as a result of a random impact on the upper level there has to be another element involved.
Having said that, to link this event with alien presences, dark brotherhoods, forces of good and evil, whatever you call it, is drawing a very long bow. We know there are ruthless people in the world, there always have been, but to see this as a sideshow in some galactic or intergalactic scheme is fanciful to say the least.
The attitude of the main players in this thread does not look like the attitude of enlightened people to me, it has rather the colour of religious fanaticism and of its companion called arrogance.
We will soon see just who will have egg on their faces come October 14.
Hans von Lieven
I'd categorise myself under the "quiet expectation" heading, regarding all this stuff - definitely no spiked kool-aid for me if/when it doesn't make an appearance! :D
However, with the US economy in difficulty, this would be a perfect opportunity for the "powers-that-be" to distract attention from the mess by setting Project Bluebeam in motion - "King George" stays in power, constitution is suspended etc. -all good, at least in their eyes...
btw, as a 'non-yank', it baffles me that there are still people that believe that 911 wasn't an 'inside-job' - though I certainly understand how most Americans would not want to believe such a thing. The almost total lack of discussion, right up to the present day, in the UK media alone screams that something is amiss! Those documentaries that have been produced have at best been 'undecided', their objectivity seeming non-existent most of the time...
orbs
I have read your post with great interest and must agree with all you were saying
Psychology is not something I am to good at,but you summed it up pretty good.
Unfortunately that puts me also in to one or more of your mentioned Categories
But thats alright because thats the way it is.
professor
Quote from: orbs on September 26, 2008, 01:55:31 PM
Well, who knows. maybe only you are real and (almost) all other forum participants are (ro)bots? Or even "worse": it's only you with a dissociative identity disorder (formerly called multiple personality disorder), and everybody is just an aspect of "you". How would you know for certain? ;D
I would assume most reserve the right to change their opinions because as awareness expands so do one's beliefs change. It's not wrong to have beliefs, they serve well at some stages of development. It's sometimes difficult to let go of old beliefs even if they don't really serve anymore. But it's eventually unavoidable (this is one of the very few areas where free will doesn't apply [to the if, not to the when]).
Since I'm having fun, I'll create some arbitrary categories about users and balance here.
There are the ones who visit this forum who have to prove to themselves that they are alive by poking around more or less arbitrarily to elicit responses (whatever the responses may be, whatever it takes to get any response). Not very interesting group from my point of view.
There are the ones who have certain interests and use pure logic. More interesting group if ego doesn't screw up the logic all too often.
There are the ones who may have relatively strong beliefs (mostly instilled, be it religious or not, and mostly not really aware of them), but they feel that there is something more, or that something is not quite right. So they are in a way more open because they would like to believe that there is more, but mind, belief system, environment, pride, etc., doesn't allow it. They would like to have proof in very specific (inside the box) ways. It's still creeping in though, and they start feeling threatened, because if only some of these alternative views might be correct, it would let their current belief system, on which they have built their sense of safety, fall apart like a house of cards. This can lead to quite some hostility, almost like a usually calm animal that feels threatened. It's like feeling the rug under one's feet being pulled and one is going off-balance. [However, after one has gone through a few of these rug-pulls one realizes that it's not the end.]
There are some more balanced groups. One (very) small group of them is pretty balanced but they feel the off-balance of others and unconsciously act it out on their behalf, confusing it with their own state. [Interestingly, those are the ones who would suspect it the least that this is happening to them.]
Of course there are many more possible "categories", balanced as well as unbalanced, and one doesn't have to be associated with only one, and it will obviously change also...
Channel UPDATE!
10.You know, as much as there seems to be many people on our planet that are full of fear (mainly of themselves I feel) this â€ËÅ"message’ that you asked me to send out, has certainly allowed for those of much Light and Love to shine their colours. The world didn’t know who I was eight weeks ago and now from all corners of the globe souls of Light are sharing their radiance with me. It gives me hope, for on the other side of the coin there are so many people full of hate. I KNOW you to be of TRUE DIVINE LOVE. That is MY TRUTH. I do not choose to MAKE it a TRUTH for others. I choose to allow them to find their own TRUTH â€Ã,¦ from within â€Ã,¦ there is nowhere else it can be found. Not in books, videos, etc, but from within. In general we must seem so â€ËÅ"behind’ in our ways of thinking and behaviour. To me you show nothing other than compassion and LOVE for all of us residing here at this time. I think it would be a good idea to take a few leaves out of your book. Look at how our race is battling with each other over your appearance. I am deeply Trusting that your visit might change all this â€Ã,¦ for the better!!
In ways that you cannot understand we implore you to keep on the path that is of each individual’s choice. We do not come to interfere. We come to intervene. There is a difference. Many have said you do not need saving for you can only save yourselves. We say â€Ã,¦ we do not come to save â€Ã,¦ We come to uplift. To enlighten. To restore hope in the soul self. You are all children of the universe. We are all children of the one energy of LOVE. Shall we not connect our beings IN and THROUGH ... AS â€Ã,¦this LOVE?
IT IS OUR TRUTH.
THIS LOVE IS EVERBODYâ€Ã,ÂS TRUTH.
Is there one of you that would deny this?
Dearest friends, we are bold in calling you this for there are some that would not accept us as friends, and yet we CHOOSE to still offer our friendship to all â€Ã,¦ very soon now you will SEE for yourselves that we are who we say we are. The arguments about us shall dissipate. In your skies you shall see a sight beyond your imaginings. Many of you who fear us shall be able to dismiss that fear in an instant, for your memories of home shall â€ËÅ"ring true’ and all self denial shall be removed. If you could FEEL the LOVE we have for you at this point you would understand that we come to assist. You shall FEEL this LOVE when we come. We can not reiterate enough â€Ã,¦ the fact â€Ã,¦ that ...
WE COME IN LOVE.
From where we are it is difficult to comprehend how this day, the 14th OCT shall evolve. Any pointers?
We smile with you. What we choose to reveal is that we certainly will not be mistaken. It will not and can not be that one would simply take a peek and then continue forth with daily routine. We say in a sense that you have NO IDEA. And we understand that you can not.
Do you think that after all this careful planning we would put on a poor display? Indeed, we shall impress beyond comprehension at this time.
Whether you choose to believe it or not.
WE LOVE YOU. EVERY ONE OF YOU. WE LOVE THOSE WHO HAVE MADE MOCKERIES OF OUR COMING. WE LOVE EVERY LIVING THING. FOR WE ARE LOVE AND SO ARE YOU. INDEED THAT IS ALL THERE IS.
So, dear friends LIGHTEN UP!! This day that is to change the course of your history is forecast to do just that. But it is not to be of doom and gloom. When we appear you will immediately know that we bring ultimate joy. We desire to share such wonders with you.
LET IT BE KNOWN â€Ã,¦ IN TRUTH â€Ã,¦ THIS IS THE BEGINNING.
If you allow your souls to recall your origins, it will be IMPOSSIBLE for you to feel anything other than immense LOVE. You knew of it in the beginning of yourselves â€Ã,¦ it was lost â€Ã,¦ but now is found.
WE ARE ONE FAMILY OF LIGHT. LET US JOIN HANDS IN UNITY AND TOGETHER STROLL DOWN THE AVENUES THAT LEAD US HOME.
MANY THANKS TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF YOURSELVES IN YOUR TRUTH.
Preparatory sightings shall be evident as a little taster â€Ã,¦ to warm you up for the promised event.
Thank you. To think â€Ã,¦ in just over two weeks â€Ã,¦ and still we all wander where you shall â€ËÅ"drop in’.
And still we keep you in wander.
No worries ... Thought I’d try! Do enough people know now?
For those that do not â€Ã,¦ they soon will, and many more shall discover the message before the allotted time of showing ourselves.
I TRUST that is soâ€Ã,¦ presuming you are aware of how your message has spread. Nothing to do with you of course!!!!!!!!!!! Love your work guys. Love your work.
( half an hour after putting this cannelling up, I received an email from my "NEW" friend Zingdad. I think like he and I, you will agree the synchcronicity of todays work from us both tells alll TRUTH. Love and Light and LAUGHTER!!!) You simply gotta LOVE it!!!
Adamu through Zingdad:Preparation without fear Part One:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=LkILXA6mR3w
Adamu through Zingdad:Preparation without fear Part Two
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qD5pfz5DePA
Howdy Y'all,
Thanks for the update Shooter001, always nice to hear from Blossom and the Galactic Federation. Adamu is profound as usual. In Blossom's update the Galactic Federation spoke of preparatory sightings. You know, eyes to the sky. I have had two events so far. Tuesday 09/23/2008 at around 9:30 AM I saw 4 ships, previously documented in this thread. Then on Wednesday 09/24/2008 at around 9:00 PM I saw a single ship at extreme high altitude. It was crossing the sky moving toward the south and suddenly disappeared (either cloaked or moved to a higher density).
Resonanceman, I tried to focus on anything that I received, but I am usually dumbfounded and in awe when I have seen a ship. I can't say that I was thinking anything really. So, well, I'll try again next time.
Viva la Galactic Federation....
Blessed Be...
I havent seen any ships yet but we did have a freak rainbow which was upside down, I'm not sure if it has anything to do with them. To me it says gravity must have been pulling from another direction other than earth.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/09/16/earainbow116.xml
I am actualy anticipating a stock market crash very soon which will cause chaos. It me also act as a catlyst for change because chaos creates order.
Quote from: z.monkey on September 27, 2008, 07:55:35 AM
Howdy Y'all,
Thanks for the update Shooter001, always nice to hear from Blossom and the Galactic Federation. Adamu is profound as usual. In Blossom's update the Galactic Federation spoke of preparatory sightings. You know, eyes to the sky. I have had two events so far. Tuesday 09/23/2008 at around 9:30 AM I saw 4 ships, previously documented in this thread. Then on Wednesday 09/24/2008 at around 9:00 PM I saw a single ship at extreme high altitude. It was crossing the sky moving toward the south and suddenly disappeared (either cloaked or moved to a higher density).
Resonanceman, I tried to focus on anything that I received, but I am usually dumbfounded and in awe when I have seen a ship. I can't say that I was thinking anything really. So, well, I'll try again next time.
Viva la Galactic Federation....
Blessed Be...
Z Monkey
A few nights ago I looked up and noticed a big ORANGE star in the sky . It was not just a little orange it was really orange. and it was MUCH larger than any other star in the sky .
It didn't move or anything.
At the time I had other things on my mind so I didn't dwell on it much .
I only saw it that one time.
About receiving messages from the ships.
Time does not always apply to these messages .
If you focus on when you saw the ships with enough clarity you might be able to pick up the message as if they were still there.
gary
Edit
I had forgotten about seeing the orange star .
Then I read about the preparatory sightings. I I was thinking that I would really love to have one of those sitings .........then I realized that I already had .
:)
gary
I posted this in the other thread as well.
I have just recently (within 48 hours) learned of this october 14th thing. Is it just me, or doesn't this remind anyone of the movie "Independence Day" where all the people were up on top of the building with their welcome signs just before the ship destroyed it? I am not a negative creature by nature but neither am I a believer in religious beings (father figures) who look down on us from the heavens (ala George Carlin). I do however hold no ill will or lack of respect for those who believe differently than I. I have always held to the belief that anything we learn or experience can have a positive effect on our future achievements, therefore I look forward to any result (positive or otherwise) that comes from this speculated event. Meanwhile I will continue to work towards our energy solutions with an open mind and a hopeful heart.
Thanx
Dan Wilson Jr.
Quote from: professor on September 27, 2008, 01:53:55 AMUnfortunately that puts me also in to one or more of your mentioned Categories
Mind you, I don't claim to not be (and not have been) in them either... ;)
And this was not meant to be a complete list by any means or to mean anybody in particular; I just couldn't resist the nice cues... ;D
Quote from: radicalzero on September 27, 2008, 10:39:38 AMthe movie "Independence Day"
I have to admit that I'm absolutely no fan of this movie (it feels for me so nationalistic in the negative sense -- a complete sellout on the director's part [I don't if it was fully voluntarily though]). But I like the view I've read (can't remember where) that when you enter a large city, the first crowd you encounter has not necessarily the highest values (like quarters with crime and tough ways of living), but it gets better the closer you get to the city center. So it could be similar that the first contact is (or has been) made with folks one has to be a little more careful with, but they don't represent the full nature of their "city".
It is getting very quiet in here. I expect the traffic will cease come October 14. Let's hope so.
Hans von Lieven
this is "the pyramid of balance".
if your chakra's are in proportion to this pyramid, than you are likely on a fastest path to gaining wisdom and understanding.
not that wisdom or understanding, are major objectives in this society.......
the root chakra on this pyramid, is operating at the theoretical "best" level of activity.
(most people might say that an optimal root chakra, is "more materialistic than a monk", yet "one third as materialistic as the present steriotype of the average person".)
the strength of the other chakra's, are times the root chakra.
(for example, the heart chakra is 4 times stronger in activity, than the root chakra.)
(and the crown chakra is 7 times more active than the root chakra.)
once every 12,000 years or so on earth, the spiritual heirarchy chooses 144,000 of the most spiritually developed souls, to be promoted to the next highest density.
so 144,000 3D souls who have completed 3D, get to go to 4D.
and 144,000 2D souls who have completed 2D, replace them in 3D.
i incarnated here, because i needed to learn lessons involving individualism.
with the intent that the lessons will allow me to complete the second half of 5D.
the first half of 5D is open to individuals who are "complete connected to society".
sort of like the feel-good space-hippy version of the borg. where individualism and personal ugliness is strongly discouraged.
but the second half of 5D, requires a balance.
it requires a majority of connection, balanced with a small amount of disconnection/individualism.
sort of like 3 thick tree branches, sepperate from an even thicker tree trunk.
the higher the density from 5D, the more disconnect and the less connection.
until you have millions of small leaves barely connected to the tree.
many people in 5D, are having trouble with balancing connection with individualism.
they tend to lean on each other completely. leaving them unable to stand up on their own 2 feet.
these poor 5D people still grow spiritually.
even as a tribe of elf-hippies, that cannot think as individuals (or even stand to do ANYTHING sepperately).
but their lessons come oh so very slowly.
just as a dyslexic person can still read, yet reads very slowly.
i reincarnated into a city, which was OOZED solar plexus power.
a city which requires you to be a strong individual every hour of your life.
or else........
we all decided that this city, was the best/fastest environment possible, in which to learn the individualism of the solar plexus chakra.
the pain, abuse, and the agonizing absense of 5D love/emotions, were the costs of the learning experience.
i came down here to learn vast gains, in my knowledge of individualism.
so that i could take the knowledge back with me to 5D.
and teach it to the people who i loved.
all several million of the people who i loved.
because in 5D, every other person is like a best friend to you.
and the rest are friends with benefits......
because it would be far easier and pain free for the them to learn the lessons from "one of their own", than to unsuccessfully learn it from some asshole reptilian with no people skills.
Howdy Y'all,
Here is a new source of information. This time from an Altairian perspective on a site called Cosmic Paradigm...
http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Marks_Corner/
Blessed Be...
Tuesday, September 23, 2008
Initial Posting
The postings on this blog will be the result of information I receive from our brothers and sisters of the distant star systems, from celestials and spirit beings, and from an earlier incarnation. The information will disclose positive and negative influences, not commonly revealed, that surround current events, as well as providing historical background from those who were present at pivotal moments in history. From time to time we will include activities of beings materialized on this planet who are behind the scenes orchestrating events. Much of what I will disclose is taking place at a higher dimension, so only those of that density are capable of accurately depicting them for us.
I am honored to be a part of this revelation, and stand in awe of current events on my home planet, Earth, and the massive amount of attention directed toward it.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
Thursday, September 25, 2008
Another perspective
The following was communicated to me today, 9/25/08, by one who is observing our planet from one of the ships now orbiting Earth.
The civilization in place on planet Earth allows individuals to ascend to positions of great power and wealth. This is usually done by means of a combination of dedication and hard work. In the case of individuals such as athletes, actors, artists, etc. special talents accompany it. In all cases it is the result of better than average intelligence. In some cases it is based on inherited wealth. There are those, such as Bill Gates, who have amassed great fortunes by building companies on a single concept, more often it is the process of climbing within an organization. In many organizations this requires deceit and/or the threat of violence.
There comes a moment, somewhere along the line, when the individual is required to make a choice between single-minded dedication to his chosen goal of status, wealth and power versus things like family relations or service to others. This can occur even within organizations that are dedicated to the service of others such as government and community service organizations. In every case the individual opens him- or herself self to self-centered achievement.
It is at this moment that an individual begins the pursuit of his or her goal from a position of fear -- of losing what has been achieved. When this takes over, they become very different. This is the subtle mechanism of power structures implemented on your planet. Invariably this means choosing between service to others, and service to self. Once one has decided on service to self he or she lays him- or herself open to the fear mechanism.
This overall process is not present on the planets of other star systems. There the opportunity for a fear-based career is not possible. It is only within fear-based civilizations that such an extreme free will choice is possible.
Once this mechanism is understood, then one can see how the puppet masters work within the enslavement paradigm. There are those madly scrounging to positions of power and wealth, and those who sit back and watch as they do so. Those who would rule this planet take advantage of this.
The enslavement paradigm is very subtle. It is not a matter of chains and prison cells; it is a matter of structuring society to value wealth and power, and to give this structure mastery over the individual. Once wealth and power are allowed to dominate a civilization, then a pyramid structure is in place. Enslavement ensues for those at the bottom of the pyramid, the vast numbers of people. As we progress up the pyramid, there is less and less poverty, hunger, and want, yet there is continued enslavement to the power structure.
All of this leads to the ability for a race of outsiders to dominate a civilization. By creating such a society they lay the indigenous people open to domination. By placing their kind in the top positions, they are able to control all of such a society. In the early days of your civilization those who came from off-planet did this very thing. The very enslavers who created the pyramid structure occupied the top positions.
Many on Wall Street who are asking to be rewarded for their financial misdeeds, by contributions from the ordinary citizens of this county, are those who are dedicated to service to self, who are operating out of fear. They are worried that their positions of power and wealth will be destroyed by the current situation. Little of what is happening on Wall Street or in Washington is based on service to others. Those at the top of the pyramid are fighting to retain their status, wealth and power, their lifestyles; they are using deceit and threats of disaster (violence) to achieve their aims.
I am Justine from the planet Supsten of the star system Altair. I give you our blessings on your work.
Thank you, Justine.
That's it for today folks.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
Saturday, September 27, 2008
Who is Justine?
The following information was given to me on 9/27/08. This is the 3rd posting to Markââ,¬â,,¢s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first.
It is my pleasure to be back with you again. After our communication of two days ago, you asked me to describe my civilization and myself. I am happy to do that for you.
Like you I am an embodied spirit. I have a physical body with legs and arms and a head. I have two eyes, a nose, and mouth. I breathe, but our air is not like yours. I am somewhat taller than you, but with a body that you would not find unpleasant to gaze upon. I have a mouth for consuming food. I have fingers like you on my hands. I am a male; we procreate just like you do here on earth. In my society we are together as male and female for many years, although we do not measure time in a rigid manner like you do on Earth. Our planet is Supsten of the star system Altair, the name for our sun as previously given to your people.
Ours is an advanced form of physical civilization, somewhat similar to that into which you will find yourselves in the near future. We have a duality between those who operate from love and those who function from fear, but it is nothing like what you have on Earth. We are no longer enslaved by the darkness that invaded Earth, and that has invaded other planets. The dark energy of which I speak seeks out planets of interest and determines whether those who inhabit them are susceptible to invasion. If an opening is detected it rushes in and begins to assume control. More about that at another time.
I am a leader of my people in the sense that I am a representative who has been designated to come to your world. I am here to tell you our story so that you might know that those who wish to assist Earth are of good intent.
My planet Supsten is very beautiful, particularly now since it has been freed from the darkness. (Restoring its beauty happened quite quickly after it was released; I am sure the same will be true for Earth.) We have land upon which we walk and water in which we swim. It is quite beautiful with trees and other growing things. The land is flat with few mountains such as you have on earth. I find your mountains quite beautiful in a rugged sort of way. On my planet we have much fertile land for growing all manner of food. We cultivate the land in many ways, both by hand because it is satisfying and by mechanism because it is more efficient. However we do not disturb the land so much as does your modern mechanized equipment. We are one with the land and it yields for us in great abundance. We have a wide variety of what you call produce.
Picture a very gentle place, of people walking and taking, of an almost idyllic society. Today that is so, but it was not always the case. In times past we had our great conflicts. However we did not enter into an era of mechanized conflict such as you have here in earth. Ours were limited to great physical battles between races.
We had the whites and the blacks. The white race was planted by the Pleiadians; the black by Sirians. All newer planets are seeded from the older races. In our case it was to mesh the black and the white into a new race. Earth was populated by four races.
Eventually we tired of conflict, and told our leaders to stop. Ours was not as controlled a sphere as is Earth. The situation here is managed by the darkness for its own ends. As far as we can tell, the rule of the darkness is in the final days, weeks.
Back to our planet, we have been given the knowledge of how to create vehicles to transport. We tap into the universal energy; it is everywhere for our use. Everyone on my planet is tapped into the universal network that pervades my entire planet. When we wish to communicate with another we merely set up an intention to do so. If the other wishes to respond a connection is made and we communicate.
I am one of the surface dwellers. There are others who dwell beneath the surface. They appear much different. They have a civilization that is more developed than mine; it is much older. None of them have traveled to be here during earthââ,¬â,,¢s transition.
Another reason we are here is to bring energy crystals to your planet. They will be of assistance to everyone during your transition time. Once again, I emphasize that we are here -- I am not alone on my giant craft -- to show that we are your peaceful brothers and sisters, that other planets have made the transition to the light, and to provide our energy to assist the great transformation of Earth.
I am Justine of the planet Supsten of the Altairian star system. I leave you with my blessing.
Thatââ,¬â,,¢s it for today folks.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark Kimmel
Sunday, September 28, 2008
Coming soon
The following information was provided on 9/28/08. This is the 4th posting to Markââ,¬â,,¢s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order.
I, and others like me, are now present aboard starcraft in orbit about your planet. We have traveled here to be part of the grand disclosure to your people: there are indeed humans populating the universe beyond Earth. We will make our appearance shortly.
I cannot tell you the date or time. It is like the massive invasion of Normandy that took place during your WWII. There was a date set, but many factors can into play, many were ships needed, many individuals needed to be coordinated. Having said that, I hasten to assure you that your brothers and sisters from other star systems are not invaders. Rather, having been invited, we are coming by invitation to assist, and only assist.
First there will be the unmistakable appearance of ships from other planets and dimensions. This will be followed by events leading to the bifurcation. Those who choose will remain on Earth, as she transitions to a lighter density. All that is currently in place will remain for a time: the houses, the roads, the equipment, the land, and the seas will remain.
We have made provisions to smooth your transition to the lighter density, while you remain fully conscious of all that is happening around you. Those that remain will be charged with returning Earth to her pristine condition and creating a new civilization. Many on your planet are choosing to participate in this grand transition.
Those who fear to be a part of the lighter density of earth will awaken on another planet believing they have always lived there. They will continue their lives in physical density, but one that is not controlled by the dark energy. As things now stand, the majority of her people will leave Earth.
Some families will be torn asunder because some will decide to stay while others leave. Some houses will be occupied, some will not. There will be dislocations in the first days. That is why we have advised you to store water and food, and to secure shelter. We are taking steps to minimize the predicted earth changes. Be willing to accept some momentary dislocations; the greater good of all will emerge from this transition.
Those who understand will greet these changes with a positive attitude. They will show others that there is nothing to fear, that we come in peace and are here to assist. They will greet the ships that land.
This is coming more suddenly than many had anticipated. Preparations are speeding up because we wish to thwart any reaction by those who serve the dark. Everything is now in place for the mass appearance. Orders for your defense forces to stand down will be issued. This is more for their safety, and for that of people on the ground, than for us. We are impervious to your weapons.
Be comforted that communications like this are happening all over your planet. We are overwhelming those who would oppose our actions with a multitude of such communications. At this moment, they are collecting it all and analyzing it. They are not stopping anyone from communicating.
Everything that you now do, or have done for past years, is known to others. You have no need to be embarrassed by your actions or your thoughts, they are seen as the normal workings of a human mind, normal actions of a human living in this situation. You are doing exactly what you came here to do, what you agreed upon prior to your embodiment in physical form.
Mark, one of your great contributions was to change from the pleasures and workings of the 3rd dimension to that which you are now doing. This provides others a marvelous example so that they too might change. There are many who are wavering between embracing what appears to be crazy and sticking with their old ways. You assist them by your example.
As to 2012, things are accelerating. All will be accomplished well in advance of that date. Time is not fixed; time is subject to adjustment as circumstances warrant. NOW IS THE TIME OF EARTHââ,¬â,,¢S TRANSITION.
I am Justine of the planet Supsten of the Altairian star system. I leave you with my blessing.
Thatââ,¬â,,¢s it for today folks, more in the days ahead. (I find myself in awe that this is finally happening.)
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
Tuesday, September 30, 2008
Off-planet Perspective
The following information was provided on 9/30/08. This is the 5th posting to Markââ,¬â,,¢s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order.
I am commenting from a starship of the Pleiadians on what I observe happening on the surface of your planet. Please know that what is happening these days in the United States of America impacts all within this galaxy. Everything is interconnected, more than you would ever imagine. A saying of your planet, that the flapping of the wing of a butterfly in the Amazon is felt throughout your world, is quite true. Energetically, we are all connected.
It is clear to us that the orchestrated fall of the stock market is intended to induce such fear that Congress will vote funds for the powerful of Wall Street and the banking interests, without consideration for ordinary people. As usual, the real story is what is going on behind the scenes. Power hungry off-planet handlers are trying to obtain their last energetic morsels as the enslavement of Earthââ,¬â,,¢s people comes to an end. They believe, wrongly, that by diverting massive amounts of funds into the hands of those who serve them, consciously and unconsciously, they will retain some semblance of their stranglehold over the majority of people. Regardless of how the economic situation is finally resolved, when it indeed it is, it demonstrates a desperate gasp by the powerful to suck energy from the people they dominate.
Politicians in Washington are mere pawns in this game. They are being stampeded, by fear of not getting reelected, into doing something that they would not ordinarily do. A few are seeing through this grab for money, seeing that by merely adjusting regulations on banks that they could accomplish what is necessary to solve the crisis. Despite wishes to the contrary, fear based action will probably rule the day, as it is easier to do what is being asked than to take action with clear eyes.
Again, the hidden hand of those from off-planet who rule the beliefs and actions of a small cabal are clearly seen in their preferred way of solving the dilemma: create more money to reward the few. By gouging the populace, they tighten the screws on the poor, both in America and elsewhere on the planet, make a mockery of the hard-working middle class, and enrich those who already have a great plenty.
The energies everyone is feeling, consciously or unconsciously, are directed to you from several sources. There is the energy from HAARP that seeks to cloud the minds of humans, make them tired, and induce fear. It operates at 4 to 6 hertz, the same frequency as the human brain. It is operating at full power these days. It is particularly effective, as aerosol spraying has lowered the resistance of everyoneââ,¬â,,¢s physical body.
Energies are also coming from the armada of starships in orbit about your planet and from elsewhere in the galaxy These energies are beneficial, intended to uplift those who will open themselves to receiving. Your physical health is better for receiving these energies. This is the same for everyone who is open.
There are also energies which earth is directing to her surface dwellers. She is calling you to experience her revitalized beauty. Go into the wild to allow her to talk with you. She is clearing the skies and waters, and refreshing the ground. Enjoy the revitalized Earth. There is more of this to come as she ascends into her beauty of a lighter density. Find ways to resonate with her. Walk on the soil barefoot. Smell her fragrances. Look upon her beauty.
Make no mistake these are extraordinary times. This is not just one more business cycle. You are living in times that will not be repeated on this planet, or for that matter anywhere else in this galaxy. This is the triumph of the light over the darkness that has gripped this planet for eons. Enjoy the fact that you are here to live through it. I am most appreciative that I am here to observe.
From the perspective of a visitor to your world, I am amazed at the darkness in which mankind has labored. If you could but see the civilization of my home planet, you would see a huge contrast. Even though we still have to choose, we are not overwhelmed by the overarching darkness that makes it almost impossible to see the light clearly.
As an example, on my home planet children are only brought into homes where they are to be loved. No one is brought into life without the decision of the parents that they have the time and the means to dedicate to the new person. This leads to less dysfunctional family life, healthier children, and better-balanced more loving adults. There are few instances of drug or alcohol abuse, few suicides, and almost no abuse. Contrast this with your world where all of these are present.
Here on Earth you have the ability to choose between the dark and the light, and that it is a wonderful experience for many to undertake, but the price that is paid in ruined lives is too high. So earth will ascend into the light and those of you who wish may accompany her.
There will be no more of an economy that is structured to enslave the many and benefit the few. There will be no more need to climb the corporate ladder in search of riches and power. There will be no more need to lie and claw ones way to the top of an artificially structured pyramid. On my world, there is no economic deprivation, and no economic pyramid. Wealth is provided to all in abundance.
I am Justine of the planet Supsten of the Altairian star system. I leave you with my blessing.
Thatââ,¬â,,¢s all for today folks, more in the days ahead. Stay tuned.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
Howdy Y'all,
Here's the Sirian Update...
http://www.paoweb.com/sn093008.htm
Blessed Be...
Greetings! We arrive with much to say! Everywhere on your world the concluding struggle between your last dark cabal and our Earth allies goes on. This conflict is reaching a point where a denouement must happen. We have begun to see both sides taking risks they would normally not take. The credit crunch forced upon the dark cabal by a failure to adopt the Basel II agreements led in the past week to a proposed US government-sponsored "cash bailout" rated in the hundreds of billions of dollars. This is a temporary measure at best. It does not address the grand alliance of nations, major financial investors in effect, and there is an urgent need to manifest the rest of our Earth allies' new financial system. All of this is continuing to put a great deal of pressure upon the dark cabal and its Anglo-American base. The process of squeezing the old "Fed" dollar and draining the pro-"cabalist" US regime of its credit resources has not much longer to go. Many of the places to put these funds are denied to them, and the ongoing threat of sudden seizures remains.
This secret war is reaching serious proportions as brief skirmishes pop up from time to time. This warfare is leading our Earth allies into positions that, in the end, make their triumph inevitable. We watch closely and know just how serious this struggle has become. This global clash has many fronts: Primarily this matter is about power and the one element that is the lifeblood of power: money. Behind this are two different philosophies. The first, ours, advocates an end to the yawning gap between rich and poor and the reform of those instruments that have put most nations and people either in near-poverty conditions or on the verge of fiscal disaster. Debt forgiveness and redistributing trillions of dollars to your world permit it to change its focus and move away from the trumped-up wars and the ongoing chaos of a world struggling to survive. Remove all this, and new possibilities open up. Suddenly, the difficulties of the post-World War II era can be addressed in numerous new, creative ways. This is the objective of your "quiet revolution."
The way of the dark cabal is to hoard untold wealth and create a false sense of limited money supply. This is then further stressed by the use of usury, fractional banking, and, above all, constant multigenerational inflation. These devices are used to manipulate national economies and force policies upon their people that are detrimental to them and very profitable for the minions of the Anunnaki and their friends and families. This process has been going on for millennia and is now at a point where its continued application has become increasingly problematical. Yet, those operating this grievous system are unwilling to give it up and this obstinacy has consequences: The system is drying up as the means to keep it going starts to evaporate. Normally the perpetrators of the old system would have a few decades in which to maneuver. However, the current environmental crises and the shift now occurring in many commodity markets are signs that this system is in the midst of a grand decline. A new paradigm is now increasingly essential. Our Earth allies have delineated such a paradigm.
As you look at what is happening on your world, you can clearly see that there is a natural evolutionary process that is being greatly speeded up. This acceleration is due in large part to the environmental abuses of the old economic system and the recent, huge population explosion. This opens the door to daring and pressing solutions, and the rise of our Earth allies is a much-needed response to this demand. They are looking at your world and moving to give you viable solutions. The next stage in your evolution is the shift from planetary to galactic human. This presupposes your leap toward full consciousness. There is also a need for a new scientific paradigm, one that returns Spirit to the science equation. The post-quantum world of modern science, with its hint of morphogenesis and the so-called hundredth-monkey effect, is beginning to concede that there are factors in this reality that need to be added. This can lead easily to a spiritual science that reflects a new consciousness mindset.
This march toward full consciousness is happening on many fronts. There are the many changes to your physiology, including the way divine Light enters your energy systems. This allows ever more Light to suffuse you and accelerate the manifestation of your new chakras and new "genes." This operation permits you to awaken in greater and greater numbers. We are also aiding this process through the numerous nightly adjustments performed by our ever-increasing numbers of Galactic Federation medical teams. They are becoming more sophisticated in the way they perform their duties, and so a great influx of divine Light is streaming into you and paving the way for the creation of a new, fully conscious You. This new Being is the reason this reality cannot continue as presently constituted. A new reality is needed, which includes your entry as a fully-fledged member into the Galactic Federation of Light.
This movement from limited- to fully-conscious Being is the main element in all that is now happening around you. This divine operation is being closely guided by Heaven and overseen by our aforementioned medical teams. It is this special process that the dark cabalists discovered they cannot stop. The Creator decreed that this is to happen to you now. Therefore, all the many parts of Heaven and physicality have converged to ensure that this decree occurs as planned. Against this the dark cabalists have few successful resources. It is the failure of these last remaining resources that has sent them into their current panic mode. What is left is to let the divine plan work out the last details and fully manifest the results. These are to permit you to return to full consciousness and meet your spiritual and space families.
As you morph into who you truly are, you can then grasp what this really means. Full consciousness makes you the planetary and star-system guardians that you are meant to be. This stewardship of physicality is a special talent that the divine Creator has given you. For many millennia you have wandered through your reality encased in an amnesia that robbed you of the ability to see how you have given away your vast powers to others. These highly manipulating and deceitful masters have taken you on a crazed ride through the strange realms of the dark. Here, you have learned many skills and developed a wisdom that is soon to serve you well. It is this knowledge that can permit you to help transform this galaxy and others. Your talents are considerable and are much needed throughout the whole of physicality.
The next parts of this drama are proving to have a most interesting prelude. The events to come will be mind-boggling! There are to be shocking changes to your reality, the greatest of which will be our arrival. First contact is turning out to be a most complex operation. Nevertheless, we are prepared for whatever is to come and fully understand the enormous implications of this consciousness transformation. Each reality is a special construct whose grids can be altered through a broad consensus of its most sentient inhabitants, in this case, you. As you overcome your supposed limitations and learn of your great abilities to promote change, it is hardly surprising that you may be a little overwhelmed by it all. Remain calm, centered, and ready for what is to come. Remember that Together, We are indeed Victorious!
Today, we resumed our discussion of what is happening on your world. We talked about the reasons and actions behind what is happening. We ask you to release your frustrations as the divine time for everything to happen is fast approaching and the moment for first contact gets closer with each day that passes. We now leave. Know, dear Ones, in your Heart of Hearts that the countless Supply and never-ending Prosperity of Heaven are Yours! So Be It! Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!)
After that last update, they sound like a bunch communists. Communism will never work because men aren't equal and never will be. If you steal from the producers and give to the non-producers than all you will get is war. If the oct 14 crap is true, then do we really want them here? I really don't think we will have to worry about it though :)
Howdy Resonanceman,
Looks like your Orange UFOs have been harassing GeeDub. Check out this article from UFO Digest...
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0808/bush.html
Blessed Be...
Great post Z.Monkey.
Blossom Goodchild update!
11.OK, You know how I shy away from questions, but there is this big one regarding time zones in different countries, which then puts OCT 14th on different days, if you know what I mean? Are you able to enlighten me on this at all?
Dearest Blossom. All that we choose to say to you is to let go of your fears. We WILL do as we say and before the 15th Oct has come to pass in all corners of your globe this event shall have come to fruition for all to glory in. We shall surprise many in how this all comes about. We say this to you people of earth who are in anticipation of the greatest vibration ââ,¬Â¦
LET GO OF YOUR FEARS AND ANXIETIES.
By now you are aware and we can not make it any plainer that we come to bring you PEACE. So in the days that lead up to this special day in the history of your planet, allow your beings to fill up with LIGHT and GRATITUDE.
FEEL the LOVE that is already filtering through. Many of you will be experiencing what you call of the butterflies in the heart place. We are merely preparing you. Indeed you are preparing yourselves.
Those of you that KNOW of this as TRUTH, send LOVE to those who are afraid. Send vibrations of the HIGHEST LOVE out into your atmosphere. Create the Oneness that is YOU. UNITE ... CONNECT ... WITH THAT ONENESS.
Bring forth the resurrection of the TRUTH.
Thought it best to check that word out ââ,¬Â¦ ââ,¬ËœThe act of bringing back to practice,ââ,¬â,,¢
THE DIVINE TRUTH. Each one of you in your hearts KNOW of this DIVINE TRUTH. We do not find it necessary to explain itââ,¬Â¦ for you KNOW Of IT. IT IS YOU. Let us all come together once again in the spirit that we KNOW to be LOVE. Let the energy of that PURE LOVE send out frequencies to those who are afraid ââ,¬Â¦ so that they may experience their TRUTH in its TRUTH, should it differ from where their soul remains at this time.
We come to open doorsââ,¬Â¦into the NEW DAWN. Will you be one who assists another through those doors? Open your hearts, SOULS OF LOVE. Open your minds alsoââ,¬Â¦ for what we shall present to you will ââ,¬Â¦ as you say ... ââ,¬ËœBlow your mindsââ,¬â,,¢. For it shall be bigger than you are imagining and yet it shall be of a source that allows the eye to encompass it as a whole.
Not sure if that makes sense? Being brave ââ,¬Â¦ (getting good at that!), will your craft remain in the one position?
No. Our intention is to ââ,¬Ëœdriftââ,¬â,,¢ in order for all to get a ââ,¬Ëœsnapshotââ,¬â,,¢.
Whah!! So I was right about the book cover!
We ask you to think of rainbows. There will be many that begin to appear in the next few weeks. Rainbows that seem different form the ones that you are familiar with.
Iââ,¬â,,¢ll look out for themââ,¬Â¦ They sure will be an encouraging sight. How can we help YOU at this time? We are all so tangled up with what OUR needs are ... Forgive us ... Itââ,¬â,,¢s just all a bit out of the blue!
Indeed. We have asked for your help in ways of TRUSTING .. KNOWING .. FEELING .. LOVING. That is all we ask of you. This day is monumental. This period of earth time is monumental. We are here. We are with you. We are of much excitement. This excitement is such that we have to congregate at certain times ... All of our FEDERATION ââ,¬Â¦ with our minds ââ,¬Â¦ and settle the vibration. This is essential for all to run smoothly. We are aware you heart is pounding as you write this dear lady. And you picked up on what we wish to say and has it not helped?
I knew to take deep breaths, and yes ââ,¬Â¦ It simmered it all down. I feel this is what you are asking us to do at the time of ââ,¬Ëœarrivalââ,¬â,,¢ is it not? To take those deep breaths and FEEL the LOVE that you bring? I understand that your vibration may send us off balance a little ââ,¬Â¦ so if we do the breathing we will be able to come into alignment with all that is taking place?
You are absolutely correct.
Think you were helping me there!
Very soon now ââ,¬Â¦ ...............
We are aware of your smiles for you picked up on our next statement ââ,¬Â¦You have a hide and seek game in your world. ââ,¬Â¦ One counts to a certain number then proclaims ââ,¬Â¦
COMING ââ,¬Â¦. READY OR NOT!!!!!!!!!
Are you ready my friend to receive us? We are ready to be received. That is all for this session.
One quick one if I may? Will I be able to contact youââ,¬Â¦ or you meââ,¬Â¦ when you are here?
Yes.
Sort of wish I hadnââ,¬â,,¢t askedââ,¬Â¦ might want to just chill and enjoy the ride. Feel I might be put under quite a lot of pressure when you do show up. And to be honest ââ,¬Â¦ Iââ,¬â,,¢d like to make the most of just watching you and ââ,¬Ëœfeelingââ,¬â,,¢ your presence.
This is understood by us. We have plans so as not to disrupt this time too much for you.
Jolly good. Tickety Boo! TRUST TRUST TRUSTââ,¬Â¦ and I know you have my well being at heart ââ,¬Â¦ and I know you are filling me with strength when I get a little overwhelmed .... And I know I LOVE YOUââ,¬Â¦ and I know YOU LOVE MEââ,¬Â¦ would more could a gal ask for?
A table!
I really fought with myself about writing that down. A TABLE!!???? PLEASE!!! Here we goââ,¬Â¦ is this like ââ,¬Ëœsnow coneââ,¬â,,¢? What does a table mean? It seems such a ridiculous thing to say ââ,¬Â¦But on questioning myself about it ââ,¬Â¦ I had to TRUST that I had to write it down. Golden Rays on the table thing then. Canââ,¬â,,¢t possibly imagine how a table fits into the equation ââ,¬Â¦Hey ho and on we go!! Many thanks for now.
And to you our thanks dear Blossom ââ,¬Â¦ and to you.
Is this a light ship?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8-H3xlKU1gA
bluedemon you sound like a propaganda-head - propaganda also tells you there is no such thing as free energy, but u are here
i dont favor capitalism and i dont favor socialism and i do not favor communism
all these -ism's are just a bunch of words invented to divide, and/or to describe something you can reflect your fears or your wishes on (but its nothing in the way that you can hold it in your hand).
I see it this way. When i dont know what to do with my talents and dont need/want to make money out of it i OpenSource it. I give something to, to me relatively unknow, whole mankind. If i produce something and want to give it away i would prefer giving it to someone, known to me, who has my respect out of the things he had done or gives me something in return i measure equal.
i wouldnt give it to someone who is a known liar or guy who's not on the same page. this way i force him to come onto my page, if he really wants my goods. thats no 'ismn' in a social/cultural way its egoism, as i am a loving human egoism isnt bad.
does that make sense?
Mike Quinsey Channel Update!
SaLuSa 01-October-2008
Dear Ones a beautiful wave of Light is sweeping over the Earth and will continue to do so as there is a new awakening, hastened by the emergence of joy and happiness at the first public announcement of our arrival. How much it will reveal is up to your response in the meantime. We not only observe but also register the upsurge of a heightened energy full of expectation as to the future. The chaos now being experienced by you is the period of cleansing that shall see opportunities for a totally new approach to your needs. No longer are the old ways acceptable, and it would be a waste of your energy and resources to resurrect the format upon which your financial markets were based. It will be a time of concern for many of you, but remember that in the long run all of your needs will be satisfied.
The suddenness of what is happening has been looming for a long time, and the outcome could no longer be held back. It has come as a great shock to the Illuminati who thought they were still in charge. However, your destiny has been taken out of their hands for some time now, and at last you are beginning to see how the changes are manifesting for your betterment. There are still a few steps to go, and we await the opportunity to promote our allies to the positions of power, but this time they shall be trustworthy, honest and true to the Light within. You have spoken and we of the Light have responded in no uncertain ways, and this is only the beginning of a series of changes that will quickly lead to peace at all levels of your existence. It is now required of you that you support those who are so obviously of the Light, and have already spoken and acted in ways that reveal their true selves.
We can clearly see the auric colours that emanate from each of you, and it is your signature showing the level of your spiritual development. The clearer and brighter they are, the more Light you have brought to yourself and you stand as one who has awakened. This energy flows out and about and affects those it comes in contact with, and with it you are helping others to uplift themselves. There is a collective consciousness upon Earth, and we can tell you that it has risen quite noticeably with the announcement connected with the 14th October. It has given people the promise of an event of world-shaking proportions, which has suddenly drawn so many of you together. The details are not so important as the signal it gives out, that your time has arrived to take back your freedom with our help.
The focal point for the events that are going to change your lives and way of thinking, are coming through the contact known to you as Blossom Goodchild. Others are also tuning into this energy and picking up similar information, and you can expect it to be supported to a great extent. There will however always be those that have reasons to differ, and we respect their right to interpret matters in their own way. In the ultimate there can only be the one Truth, but it sometimes takes time for it to manifest. Be intuitive and true to Self, and your own judge as to what you believe in, and you will find your place with regards to what is coming. It has to harmonise with your reasoning and if it does not, think clearly as to why not, and try to take an unbiased view of it. This is no time to be narrow-minded and restrict your ability to be open to a new way of thinking.
The days of muddled thinking are over, and the truth will come out to the point of changing your life. The changes are to enable you to step right onto the path of Ascension, and in so doing leave the lower vibrations behind. They will no longer serve you any purpose unless you wish to remain within them. Open up to the Light as it is there for every soul to draw unto themselves, it favours no one against another. The Light is already present within you, if not subdued after so many lives where it has been veiled by the darkness created by the dark Ones. Now you can break out of their hold upon you, as the Light permeates every dark corner that remains upon Earth. Do not be put off by those who have doubts, as if you have been blessed by the Light it will have opened your heart centre to the truth.
The Galactic Federation are here to help with both your physical and spiritual progress, and ensure the Divine Plan for you is fully revealed and enacted. First Contact is not just a part of it, but a marker that will signal the beginning of the end times. It is a magnificent plan that is flawless and perfect, in its desire to uplift as many souls as possible in the time remaining before Ascension. Many of you have worked so hard over a number of life times, to take this opportunity to leave the 3D reality and the cycle of re-birth. In future you will have no legacy left from it, but will have completed your time in it never to return except by choice. You will be fully released from any outstanding karma, and your lessons will have been considered well learnt.
The Cosmos will welcome back those who have ascended, and they will eventually rejoin their particular families within the Star Nations to continue their experience in the higher dimensions. You will not be as you physically see yourself now; it is only a temporary body to house your soul as containment in the lower vibrations. However, it is one that is also your temple for the God spark that has ensured your everlasting connection to the Light. These are truths that people need to recognise, so as to be able to face the changes and release from the bonds with their physical body. Each cell contains a consciousness, and they are also to be uplifted into a higher expression befitting of the higher vibrations.
I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and taking a more central role in passing on these messages from the Galactic Federation. The different energies have served their purpose in bringing to you a link with us, and upon our arrival we shall be received as your brothers and sisters and not as strangers. We have always made a peaceful approach to you, and you will feel our joy and happiness to meet you. We pose no threat whatsoever, far from it as we come with Love as messengers from God to fulfil the plan for your Solar System, and the greater plan for its ascension with the Universe. Duality is no longer your pathway; you have reached the point of completion. Enjoy the new reality forming around you now; it brings the Light and Love that is you and will remain so.
Thank you SaLuSa.
Mike Quinsey.
Blossom Goodchild Clarification!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SFyK2N4RG_o
Quote from: orbs on September 23, 2008, 06:54:47 PMhttp://tuninginmovie.com
For those interested, there is an interview with the guys who made above movie (http://imdb.com/title/tt1103276/):
http://cosmiclighthouse.com/oct08/articles/interview_tuning_in_movie
Howdy Y'all,
Here is another update from Mark's Corner on CosmicParadign.com
Blessed Be...
Wednesday, October 1, 2008
October 1st
The following information was provided on 10/1/08. This is my 6th posting to Markââ,¬â,,¢s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order.
Greetings from the starship Athabantian.
As I observe your world from my vantage point of this great Pleiadian starship, the thing that strikes me as most unique about it is its diversity. Nowhere else in the galaxy, so I am told, does this diversity exist. It is wondrous to behold.
The roots of this diversity come from the original seeding done by humans from the galaxy as they brought the four races of black, white, red and yellow to your planet. The diversity of animal and plant life was already in place on Earth at that time, some one million years ago, having been created as such by the hand of God.
Then those who came later, wishing to control the people of the planet, added to the diversity by implanting the seeds of discourse. They believed that by making you competitive with each other they would more easily control you, so that you would not rise up against them, your enslavers. They made you fearful of each other, but they that did not make you more easily controlled. They have struggled with that ever since. In fact, the reason there is not a one-world government already on your planet is your very diversity of belief and behavior.
Now as you prepare for the great transition to a lighter density, we see the great advantages of retaining this diversity. It will continue to make Earth a unique planet. So in addition to her great beauty she will retain her diversity of plant, animal, and human life. All of us gathered in orbit about your planet wish only the best for its inhabitants, particularly those of you who will remain on the ascended Earth. We will, once again, nurture life on this revitalized planet, the jewel of the galaxy.
Please continue to transmit to us that which you wish to have in your revitalized world. We stand ready to assist you to accomplish that end.
I am Justine of the planet Supsten of the Altairian star system. I leave you with my blessing.
Thatââ,¬â,,¢s it for today folks. Remember to meditate, or simply hold in your hearts, the characteristics and environment that which you would like to experience on a revitalized Earth. It is to be our home; we get to have a hand in designing it.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
All your base are belong to us!!!!!!!
WOW.. looks like they are starting the show already ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4FDAYuqXTM
Quote from: reada on October 01, 2008, 07:27:20 AM
bluedemon you sound like a propaganda-head - propaganda also tells you there is no such thing as free energy, but u are here
I believe there are many things about this universe that we have not discovered yet, so I believe someday we will find free energy. On the other side the mankind is a known factor and has tons of history books with failure after failure that teach us that some things just do not work.
Quote from: reada on October 01, 2008, 07:27:20 AM
i dont favor capitalism and i dont favor socialism and i do not favor communism
all these -ism's are just a bunch of words invented to divide, and/or to describe something you can reflect your fears or your wishes on (but its nothing in the way that you can hold it in your hand).
I see it this way. When i dont know what to do with my talents and dont need/want to make money out of it i OpenSource it. I give something to, to me relatively unknow, whole mankind. If i produce something and want to give it away i would prefer giving it to someone, known to me, who has my respect out of the things he had done or gives me something in return i measure equal.
i wouldnt give it to someone who is a known liar or guy who's not on the same page. this way i force him to come onto my page, if he really wants my goods. thats no 'ismn' in a social/cultural way its egoism, as i am a loving human egoism isnt bad.
does that make sense?
I'm all for opensource and giving things away for the betterment of humanity. If I ever make a discovery I will probably gladly give it away for free and just charge for consulting. Its when people take my achievements and work away by force that I have a problem with. The only way to take money away from those who earned it and give it to the freeloaders of the world is by force. And that is exactly what was being proposed. Does that seem right to you?
If you start taking things from the producers, we are not going to want to produce anymore. You will be cutting your own means of support by this action, and will be committing mass suiside.
But the people in power haven't EARNED their money, THEY take it by force (sometimes economic force is irresistible, like Exxon's $3,000,000/hour in Q1 '08).
Energy on this planet is a virtual monopoly, decades of dumbed-down science curriculum in classrooms the world over has left us a society that must engineer by consensus (look at how many people it takes to design a car these days) when the sciences get so fragmented that there are hundreds of specialties, no one person could EVER hope to achieve even imagination to the levels of someone like Tesla.
When the lust for money is no longer able to be met by the masses, do not hesitate for one second to believe that the pumps will run dry, the grid will be switched off and the water/sewer systems will stop flowing... This is why "free" energy, or more importantly INDIVIDUAL energy generation will be vital in the years to come.
As for the aliens... I am NOT in the confirmed skeptics group, I am also NOT in the "warm fuzzy love and light" group either. It's funny that one of the recent channeling's mentioned "funny rainbows" because last week I saw an upside-down rainbow... so did my wife and our neighbors (wish I had the camera on me)... in almost 40 years on the planet I never seen a rainbow like it, started in the sky, dipped down, and went back up to the sky... same prismatic coloring, just ODD orientation... so, If I see a ship, I'll believe it!
I will not however believe blindly in their connection to religion or their benevolence until shown so. IF they are supposedly the same figures that dominate religion, AND they have always possessed the ability of "first contact" and human intervention, then they are a little LATE. There were many more appropriate times for some intervention (the black plague, the holocaust, Hiroshima/Nagasaki, heck.. either of the world wars or many conflicts we had where the death toll is in the millions,what about the natural disasters?). IF they are coming NOW it's to serve their own interests.
And what's the stuff about this being a "seed" planet... is 10/14/08 the Harvest?
The skeptics will deny a ship hovering right over their head, the "believers" will believe even if 10/14 is a no-show...but for the rest of us, take any appearance at face value. If they are "out there" and could have helped sooner, why didn't they? If I were a "galactic commander" I would have picked the 1960's to show up because then there would have been mass acceptance, not NOW when the world is jaded by decades of governmental/corporate abuse.
I didn't think of it at the time, but my cell phone has a camera (doh)... I'll definitely snap a shot of any more wierd rainbows....
Quote from: hypersoniq on October 01, 2008, 07:54:09 PM
But the people in power haven't EARNED their money, THEY take it by force (sometimes economic force is irresistible, like Exxon's $3,000,000/hour in Q1 '08).
Energy on this planet is a virtual monopoly, decades of dumbed-down science curriculum in classrooms the world over has left us a society that must engineer by consensus (look at how many people it takes to design a car these days) when the sciences get so fragmented that there are hundreds of specialties, no one person could EVER hope to achieve even imagination to the levels of someone like Tesla.
When the lust for money is no longer able to be met by the masses, do not hesitate for one second to believe that the pumps will run dry, the grid will be switched off and the water/sewer systems will stop flowing... This is why "free" energy, or more importantly INDIVIDUAL energy generation will be vital in the years to come.
As for the aliens... I am NOT in the confirmed skeptics group, I am also NOT in the "warm fuzzy love and light" group either. It's funny that one of the recent channeling's mentioned "funny rainbows" because last week I saw an upside-down rainbow... so did my wife and our neighbors (wish I had the camera on me)... in almost 40 years on the planet I never seen a rainbow like it, started in the sky, dipped down, and went back up to the sky... same prismatic coloring, just ODD orientation... so, If I see a ship, I'll believe it!
I will not however believe blindly in their connection to religion or their benevolence until shown so. IF they are supposedly the same figures that dominate religion, AND they have always possessed the ability of "first contact" and human intervention, then they are a little LATE. There were many more appropriate times for some intervention (the black plague, the holocaust, Hiroshima/Nagasaki, heck.. either of the world wars or many conflicts we had where the death toll is in the millions,what about the natural disasters?). IF they are coming NOW it's to serve their own interests.
And what's the stuff about this being a "seed" planet... is 10/14/08 the Harvest?
The skeptics will deny a ship hovering right over their head, the "believers" will believe even if 10/14 is a no-show...but for the rest of us, take any appearance at face value. If they are "out there" and could have helped sooner, why didn't they? If I were a "galactic commander" I would have picked the 1960's to show up because then there would have been mass acceptance, not NOW when the world is jaded by decades of governmental/corporate abuse.
I didn't think of it at the time, but my cell phone has a camera (doh)... I'll definitely snap a shot of any more wierd rainbows....
I'm with you man, but your getting those "people in power" confused with the backbone of america. The producers. I'm talking about the millions of men who took the risk, started their dream business and made it work. The men who put in those long hours to make sure they succeed and refused to waist away watching the boob tube and living their live on a couch. The men who are providing jobs to the people who don't have the drive to do it themselves. The men who are getting theived by both the people in power and the welfare bums living off the taxes they have paid and the countless regulations placed against their business. If you take money from the "people in power" you will also be taking money from these men who have worked hard for it.
If not for these men neither the "people in power" or the people living off the government will have their life source. Who will give them jobs, who will give them stocks to bet on, who will come up with better products/services in the name of compitiition? Everything will be done half-assed because there will be no drive to do any better. Go work for any government job where the fear of loosing that job is minimal. Its not a pretty sight.
yes, perhaps I should have clarified that, the Power brokers are those million dollar a month (plus) slime who never did anything but wear a suit and gobble up all the "backbone" small businesses.
It's not that all people don't have the "drive" to succeed, the ones that would do something if they could lack the financial means because of what I like to call Distributed Indentured Servitude... Houses and cars are way overpriced, so you need a mortgage and a car loan (or two since both spouses need to work these days)... then if you have kids you help pay absolutely disgusting tuition bills in the hopes that your children will have a better life than you, when in reality they will be like you only tens of thousands of dollars in the hole to start. add to that the impending death blow of energy deregulation by 2010 and you have a generation of people who are not lazy, just beaten down!
My working life started out in a machine shop (lost that via NAFTA), then to my dream job troubleshooting test equipmant and programming robotics at a big optoelectronic manufacturer (also lost to NAFTA) where decades later I am back in a machine shop for about the same pay as back then... beat d o w n!
I keep my hypotheses, experiment when time and money provides... maybe someday something comes of it... maybe not. OU research reminds me of working with optoelectronics, you learned something new every DAY.
I'm not sure you would find anyone on this forum who lacks drive. we're all a unique breed ranging from basement tinkerers (like me) to full blown engineers trying to learn from eachother and eventually change the world for the better (not that I wouldn't enjoy seeing the energy cartels crumble).
Over-exposed footage of the sun doesn't constitute a spaceship. :P :P
And tell me, what would any of you think of these "aliens" if they didn't believe in a god? You'd all probably call them demons sent here to kill us.
almost none of the alien species HAVE money.
because they found that money leads to nothing but trouble.
the aliens have only REAL value.
such as bartering with physical goods.
or providing services, such as knowledge or skilled labor.
the buyer decides the MAXIMUM VALUE, of the goods/services.
so a build-up of fiat "wealth", is impossible.
because it is impossible to squeeze more value out of something, than what the buyer is willing to pay.
and since there is no money, the buyer can only "buy" it, with goods/services of their own.
that forces the seller, to have something that the buyer finds valuable.
the result of the above, is that the "success" of a person, depends on having something, that other people find valuable.
a pleiadian tailor who designs one of a kind, in demand elven pimp-suits, would be wealthy.
but only as wealthy as his elven-pimp-suits are desired.
and only as many suits as he is willing to make.
a resource scavenger who has an advanced technique for mineral extraction and refinement, would be as valuable as the demand of the elements he extracts.
or he might trade the knowledge of his techniques, to the right people.
a musician band who produces the most in-demand noise in the galaxy, would be as wealthy as what people are willing to pay for their CD's. or for life performances.
as usual, the band members would have a large coven of "groupies". always willing to "do favors" for their favorite stars.
there must be thousands of things that are in demand.
but the thing in greatest demand of all, is spiritual advancement.
because each layer of reality, is more pleasant to live in than the one below it.
and the only way to climb up to sweeter heights, is spiritual advancement.
Quote from: nitinnun on October 02, 2008, 12:08:02 AM
almost none of the alien species HAVE money.
because they found that money leads to nothing but trouble.
the aliens have only REAL value.
such as bartering with physical goods.
or providing services, such as knowledge or skilled labor.
the buyer decides the MAXIMUM VALUE, of the goods/services.
so a build-up of fiat "wealth", is impossible.
because it is impossible to squeeze more value out of something, than what the buyer is willing to pay.
and since there is no money, the buyer can only "buy" it, with goods/services of their own.
that forces the seller, to have something that the buyer finds valuable.
the result of the above, is that the "success" of a person, depends on having something, that other people find valuable.
a pleiadian tailor who designs one of a kind, in demand elven pimp-suits, would be wealthy.
but only as wealthy as his elven-pimp-suits are desired.
and only as many suits as he is willing to make.
a resource scavenger who has an advanced technique for mineral extraction and refinement, would be as valuable as the demand of the elements he extracts.
or he might trade the knowledge of his techniques, to the right people.
a musician band who produces the most in-demand noise in the galaxy, would be as wealthy as what people are willing to pay for their CD's. or for life performances.
as usual, the band members would have a large coven of "groupies". always willing to "do favors" for their favorite stars.
there must be thousands of things that are in demand.
but the thing in greatest demand of all, is spiritual advancement.
because each layer of reality, is more pleasant to live in than the one below it.
and the only way to climb up to sweeter heights, is spiritual advancement.
Are you some kind of moron? Money is just a medium to ease exchange between parties who have desirable goods, but do not happen to desire each other's goods. For example: A grows apples, B makes bricks, and C makes cookies. C wants some apples from A. A does not like cookies because he is on a diet. B likes cookies though, but C does not want any bricks. What to do, what to do? Oh, well B buys cookies from C with money, and C then uses that money to buy apples from A. Notice that each party must still produce desirable goods, even B, who must have sold some bricks to get that money in the first place.
Give everything you can and take only what you need and things should work alright.
Quote from: utilitarian on October 02, 2008, 12:28:39 AM
Are you some kind of moron? Money is just a medium to ease exchange between parties who have desirable goods, but do not happen to desire each other's goods. For example: A grows apples, B makes bricks, and C makes cookies. C wants some apples from A. A does not like cookies because he is on a diet. B likes cookies though, but C does not want any bricks. What to do, what to do? Oh, well B buys cookies from C with money, and C then uses that money to buy apples from A. Notice that each party must still produce desirable goods, even B, who must have sold some bricks to get that money in the first place.
any money system, makes it possible to "steal" value.
or to flat out create illusionary value.
there are 1 million and one types of dirty money tricks, that become possible with money.
and it is a certainty, that corrupt assholes will eventually discover and abuse all of them.
but the biggest and oldest of the dirty tricks, is "foreign currency exchange".
where one currency is exchanged for another currency. with a "discrepency in value", that makes a competent "trader" extremely rich.
the value discrepency is effectively stealing value from others. although the forms that this can manifest in, may very.
Quote from: utilitarian on October 02, 2008, 12:28:39 AM
Are you some kind of moron? Money is just a medium to ease exchange between parties who have desirable goods, but do not happen to desire each other's goods. For example: A grows apples, B makes bricks, and C makes cookies. C wants some apples from A. A does not like cookies because he is on a diet. B likes cookies though, but C does not want any bricks. What to do, what to do? Oh, well B buys cookies from C with money, and C then uses that money to buy apples from A. Notice that each party must still produce desirable goods, even B, who must have sold some bricks to get that money in the first place.
are you some kid of moron?
barter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barter)
"Barter is a type of trade in which goods or services are directly exchanged for other goods and/or services, without the use of money.
It can be bilateral or multilateral, and usually exists parallel to monetary systems in most developed countries, though to a very limited extent.
Barter usually replaces money as the method of exchange in times of monetary crisis, when the currency is unstable and devalued by hyperinflation."
Quote from: sparks on October 02, 2008, 12:38:21 AM
Give everything you can and take only what you need and things should work alright.
A noble idea sparks that I subscribe to wholeheartedly, but unfortunately greed reigns and there does not seem to be a way to stop it.
All those allegedly sweet talking aliens, gurus and masters of long ago etc. etc. have never given us more than empty glib phrases that never changed a thing. In fact, these sweet phrases are exactly what do-gooders and oppressors utter before they drive in the knife.
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on October 02, 2008, 01:13:05 AM
are you some kid of moron?
barter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barter)
"Barter is a type of trade in which goods or services are directly exchanged for other goods and/or services, without the use of money. It can be bilateral or multilateral, and usually exists parallel to monetary systems in most developed countries, though to a very limited extent. Barter usually replaces money as the method of exchange in times of monetary crisis, when the currency is unstable and devalued by hyperinflation."
Yes, and if you read that article, you would see the numerous drawbacks of barter. Biggest one is agreeing on relative values of goods. Apparently, US currency is not "unstable or devalued" enough for anyone to actually switch to barter yet.
Sure, there are disadvantages to a monetary system. It is the worst system out there, except for all the alternatives.
Quote from: sparks on October 02, 2008, 12:38:21 AM
Give everything you can and take only what you need and things should work alright.
To each according to his needs, from each according to his abilities. Has not worked in practice yet, but maybe you can be the first to set up a successful Marxist system?
Quote from: utilitarian on October 02, 2008, 01:45:30 AM
Yes, and if you read that article, you would see the numerous drawbacks of barter. Biggest one is agreeing on relative values of goods. Apparently, US currency is not "unstable or devalued" enough for anyone to actually switch to barter yet.
Sure, there are disadvantages to a monetary system. It is the worst system out there, except for all the alternatives.
and if you actually read the article, you must have missed
"While one-to-one bartering is still practiced between individuals and businesses on an informal basis, organized barter exchanges have developed to conduct third party bartering. The barter exchange operates as a broker and bank and each participating member has an account which is debited when purchases are made, and credited when sales are made.
With the removal of one-to-one bartering, concerns over unequal exchanges are reduced.Modern trade and barter has developed into a sophisticated tool to help businesses increase their efficiencies by monetizing their unused capacities and excess inventories. The worldwide organized barter exchange and trade industry has grown to an $8 billion a year industry and is used by thousands of businesses and individuals. The advent of the internet and sophisticated relational database software programs has further advanced the barter industry's growth. Organized barter has grown throughout the world to the point now where virtually every country has a formalized barter and trade network of some kind. Complex business models based on the concept of barter are today possible since the advent of Web 2.0 technologies."
apparently US citizens are not intelligent enough to manage their own assets from what i see, which is amusing, since money is the thing they value most but they can't be bothered to educate themselves on how to properly use it. so they pay someone else to do it for them, this coupled with the "someone else" being ready and eager to exploit the mindless sheep and you end up with the mess the US economy is in now.
i thought democracy was the worst system out there, or was it capitalism? i love seeing people take someone else's words for their own.
individual aliens strongly prefer, to make everything that they need for themselves.
for themselves, and for their family structures (a "podlet", of no more than 64 people.)
everyone is taught how to produce what they "need". so demand is mostly for "extra things".
such as personal hobbies. or large projects that benefit the entire society.
since everyone has what they need, everyone tends to be generous with their time and effort.
being free from the struggle just to survive, also tends to make them bored at times.
so they have no end of time and energy, to turn into useful things.
it is the exact opposite, of how our world is run.
where everyone is taught to rely on a system, that the rich and powerful control.
instead of people being trained and equipped to produce their own stuff, factories do it.
instead of people managing their own food sources, farms do it.
instead of people doing what they want to do with their lives, people waste most of their time on an unneccessary "job". to earn "money".
money to buy required things, that people SHOULD have been producing for themselves in the first place!
society have been intentionally broken!
in such a way, that it can be controlled!
and it is oh so unneccessary.
because there are better ways.
and as soon as the corrupt assholes can no longer suppress them, these ways will become the preferred method of mankind.
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 02, 2008, 01:45:15 AM
A noble idea sparks that I subscribe to wholeheartedly, but unfortunately greed reigns and there does not seem to be a way to stop it.
All those allegedly sweet talking aliens, gurus and masters of long ago etc. etc. have never given us more than empty glib phrases that never changed a thing. In fact, these sweet phrases are exactly what do-gooders and oppressors utter before they drive in the knife.
Hans von Lieven
Hi Hans,
i'm relatively new here, but i read this forum a long time. I respect you for the answers and insides you give and gave. You have a highly scientific way to look on things, however i don't agree with you that 'it' cant be changed cause greed reigns. You have probably changed people in your environment to see things like you do, so do all here i believe. That makes me confident that there is a chance that we can live like Sparks said. Outside the state/political borders because humans aren't as bluedemon said different in behaviour - the're different in teaching and following 'man-given-rules'. At the end of the day everyone wants the best for their families with the less work to do for that. Its all about morals and ethics. So therefor the Love-Things that are said by the Entities through the Channelers aren't that far of, because it involves less power if you do things you like.
And i have to agree with you that the same principles were used over and over again to deceit people. No one can trust no one anymore - isnt that sad? But hey, there is !always! Light at the end of the tunnel watch this pdf http://www.mindovermatter.com/deutsch/pdf/33%20Dahlke.pdf (http://www.mindovermatter.com/deutsch/pdf/33%20Dahlke.pdf) (german i apologyze) on the second page are two pictures - there is a robot driving its random way in the first picture. In the Second there is a little chicken placed inside the right box - the robots behaviour changes everytime the chicken is placed inside it. Thats Science as well. There is something like a soul, there is something like consciousness. There is something like love or desire that is changing matter. I believe thats the true thing. I wonder if the robot would chase you as well hans ;D
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 02, 2008, 01:45:15 AM
A noble idea sparks that I subscribe to wholeheartedly, but unfortunately greed reigns and there does not seem to be a way to stop it.
All those allegedly sweet talking aliens, gurus and masters of long ago etc. etc. have never given us more than empty glib phrases that never changed a thing. In fact, these sweet phrases are exactly what do-gooders and oppressors utter before they drive in the knife.
Hans von Lieven
you have been spewing nothing but unconstructive negativity, into this thread.
your attitude promotes failure, pessimism, hopelessness, and motivation-assassination
why are you trying to DESTROY the motivation, of everyone who crosses your path?
if you believe that greed reigns supreme, than that is exactly what will happen.
because by believing that it is invincible, you help make it invincible.
sheldon nidle describes how the aliens run their societies, in some of his books.
he gives a very useful big picture.
there are also many ideas/methods online, for better ways of running the world.
some more implement-able than others.
maybe if you had spent more time researching possibilities, and less time complaining about how pointless the world is, you would have something more constructive to type, than preaching doom-ism.
DOOOOM-ISM !!!!!!!
we have been living in a society where poverty consciousness is dominating.
this was created (by illuminatti or the like) to dominate humanity and control every aspect of society.
poverty consciousness creates fear,
fear creates greed, war etc. we know al that!
in a society where infinite abundance is prevailing there is no fear, no greed, no war...
where there is no lack or limitation
and this society is about to unfold in the new golden age.
you just have to want it to happen.
and yes Hans, by giving power to lack and limitation thoughts, you influence the universe in that way
guess what could happen if everyone thinks abundance!
Quote from: reada on October 02, 2008, 03:16:56 AM
Hi Hans,
i'm relatively new here, but i read this forum a long time. I respect you for the answers and insides you give and gave. You have a highly scientific way to look on things, however i don't agree with you that 'it' cant be changed cause greed reigns. You have probably changed people in your environment to see things like you do, so do all here i believe. That makes me confident that there is a chance that we can live like Sparks said. Outside the state/political borders because humans aren't as bluedemon said different in behaviour - the're different in teaching and following 'man-given-rules'. At the end of the day everyone wants the best for their families with the less work to do for that. Its all about morals and ethics. So therefor the Love-Things that are said by the Entities through the Channelers aren't that far of, because it involves less power if you do things you like.
Believe me when I say I really understand where you all are coming from. This is a utopian idea that has been around for centuries and almost every man deep in his heart would love to see something like this happen, but its just a pipe dream. Read your history books. People have tried this over and over again and it has never worked and always ends up in more deaths and less basic necessities than they had in the previous system.
It seems the pattern goes something like this:
- A great idea emerges such as the one being discussed
- Propaganda, propaganda, propaganda about how well this new system will be to get an army of followers togather.
- An overthrow of government takes place to implement the new system
- The new system is put in place which excludes all the current producers because they don't fit with the party's needs.
- The factories and homes of the previous producers get stolen(nationalized) to support the party.
- The party members by nature are not producers so the factories go to waist, the farms get neglected and the party members are more concerned with increasing their party size
- People end up working for days only to wait in line for a single loaf of bread and anything else the party has managed to steal from the producers. People die of starvation and overwork. But somehow the top party members always have three meals a day and all the expensive goods from foreign countries that everyone else can't afford.
- The people realize that this was a good idea that will never work.
- The people have a revolution and put back in place either a capitalist system where they can live a good life or they get a tyrant which is abusive but still provides for the basic necessities.
nop - watched animalfarm yesterday again - i understand what you are saying
i dont want to put a system in place nor do i propagate a new beliefsystem
let go of the fears something can not work (watch yourself getting angry, stop it). Nothing more, nothing less. Selfconfidence. I dont need anyone to set up a party where i can subscribe. Thats a system that not works - watch usa its a farce this two party system.
In the end i would prefer a little community, selfsustainable, with all the good things of our time - meaning internet, free speech and so on (free energy would be great too thats what im here for) - and no state or Controlling organ that say what go's and what not, cause common sense says what go's and what not. I dont care about the whole - i care about me 'feeling good, doing good' to people i know. The money that gets spent on military could easily be invested in the people itself. within one generation the differences could be overcome.
anyway - this thread is for information about the october 14th thing - lets get back to the aliens cause there is something about them. There is nothing about talking each other down...
This video was posted on the 30th September. From what I can see there are crowds of people in the street all singing and waving flags while there appears to be 2 objects in the sky, one is pulsing and the other blimbs in and then out of the sky, they are huge bright objects. I don't think one of them is the sun because a camera would show the sun as a black spot because it is too bright. If one of the objects is the sun then what is the second?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4FDAYuqXTM
Howdy Y'all,
You can stop greed by freely giving. Bartering is a good idea but you can't always barter what you don't have. A better idea is to give. When you give freely then you are creating Karmic credits. When you have surplus Karmic credits you never are in need, everything is provided for you. I know this law well because I live it. When you see people around you in need, GIVE them what they need. Then when you are in need nature and the law of Karma provide for you. It is really simple and works really well. You only need to understand the law of Karma and practice the law of Karma.
An example is I had a want for a mountain bike. I had a good idea of the type of bike that I wanted and was looking to buy one. I have always been a person that gives freely, it's just something that I do. So after having looked for a bike for a couple of weeks and not really finding what I was looking for at a reasonable price, I found a bike that was being discarded. Sure it had flat tires, the chain and gears were rusty, the brakes and derailers we out of adjustment, but it was free. I spent a couple days working on it to get all of it's little problems repaired, oiled the chain and gears, adjusted the bakes and derailers, and put slime in the inner tubes. The result is I now have a perfectly good 21 speed mountain bike with front and rear suspension (which is exactly what I wanted) which I use frequently to exercise and play. The point is that this mountain bike was provided freely by nature and the only payment that I had to make was to repair it.
Give to the world around you, the law of Karma works...
Blessed Be...
second is reflection in lens or window.. only stupid see there ufo not sun !!! this is worst aliens wideo ever see
That is true, the only thing in this Video that is in space is the SUN.
greetings
Galactic federation?
Star Trek?
Really?
http://www.youtube.com/user/AlienScientist
Learn something..
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=G5KtsZ5rIjo&feature=PlayList&p=F06F023B35C1859D&index=0 (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=G5KtsZ5rIjo&feature=PlayList&p=F06F023B35C1859D&index=0)
thats the first of nine clips about the phoenix lights
it expresses quite the same feeling some have here (even without the event actually happened)
and it goes like this :D ;D ;D :D
i sense a phenomenon :o
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fz.hubpages.com%2Fu%2F184930_f520.jpg&hash=bd5b26b6ad152fbdd67c88261427cdf1917af9de)
Howdy Red,
Star Trek has the United Federation of Planets, that is fictional.
We have the Galactic Federation of Light, that is the real one.
Blessed Be...
My favorite crewman was 'Uhura'...later I morphed over to '6 0f 9' from Star Trek NG.
Regerds...
This is starting to sound like a 2012 thread...
Some say its doomsday...
The others say it is the dawn of a golden age...
And then there is the people who say 2012 will be 2012...
Who is right who is wrong time will tell...
Just like this thread time will show and the truth will prevail through it.
Quote from: reada on October 02, 2008, 04:26:26 PM
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=G5KtsZ5rIjo&feature=PlayList&p=F06F023B35C1859D&index=0 (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=G5KtsZ5rIjo&feature=PlayList&p=F06F023B35C1859D&index=0)
thats the first of nine clips about the phoenix lights
it expresses quite the same feeling some have here (even without the event actually happened)
and it goes like this :D ;D ;D :D
Thanks for the link Reada
The lights in those videos were the same color as the one I saw a while back .
If I had seen that those videos before I saw it I would have given it alot more attention .
A couple of conclusions I cam to watching the videos
The people in the video seem to be on the right track .
They are being prepared for something.
Assuming the aliens in the ships are friendly ........how do they make contact without causing panic?
It seems to me the way to do it is the way they are doing it.
Start with an occasional unexplainable light in the sky .
Then groups of lights ........then lights that are almost certainly part of a very large ship .
Assuming that these contacts had years in between most of the people in the area would be ready for proof of a ship .
I also remember something about lights over Mexico City ....... it seems to me that these citys would be very likely places for the visit on the 14th to start.
I would also think that they would follow the night around the globe the first day here . ....... seeing lights and a ship blocking out stars is cool ...........seeing a ship blocking out the sun would be a bit more shocking for most people .
gary
this is absolutly madness :D most shizous topic in overunity ever see (something like rol on 20 june)
i want ask one question to alien friends . what you do if nothing hapens on 14 okt ??? how you explain why aliens not came ??
Quote from: martinzurix on October 03, 2008, 03:05:45 AM
this is absolutly madness :D most shizous topic in overunity ever see (something like rol on 20 june)
i want ask one question to alien friends . what you do if nothing hapens on 14 okt ??? how you explain why aliens not came ??
thats easy, while passing earth they blinked and missed us.
Quote from: martinzurix on October 03, 2008, 03:05:45 AM
this is absolutly madness :D most shizous topic in overunity ever see (something like rol on 20 june)
i want ask one question to alien friends . what you do if nothing hapens on 14 okt ??? how you explain why aliens not came ??
thats very easy, i'll my keep my positiv attitude cause i see/saw a lot of people beeing happy as i am in front of the miracles of life ;D
Quote from: nitinnun on October 02, 2008, 02:07:42 AM
individual aliens strongly prefer, to make everything that they need for themselves.
for themselves, and for their family structures (a "podlet", of no more than 64 people.)
everyone is taught how to produce what they "need". so demand is mostly for "extra things".
such as personal hobbies. or large projects that benefit the entire society.
since everyone has what they need, everyone tends to be generous with their time and effort.
being free from the struggle just to survive, also tends to make them bored at times.
so they have no end of time and energy, to turn into useful things.
it is the exact opposite, of how our world is run.
where everyone is taught to rely on a system, that the rich and powerful control.
instead of people being trained and equipped to produce their own stuff, factories do it.
instead of people managing their own food sources, farms do it.
instead of people doing what they want to do with their lives, people waste most of their time on an unneccessary "job". to earn "money".
money to buy required things, that people SHOULD have been producing for themselves in the first place!
society have been intentionally broken!
in such a way, that it can be controlled!
and it is oh so unneccessary.
because there are better ways.
and as soon as the corrupt assholes can no longer suppress them, these ways will become the preferred method of mankind.
The basics of life are food, water, and shelter. Are you suggesting we return to agrarian culture?
You make some interesting claims regarding alien life. Iââ,¬â,,¢ll leave those alone, as I would rather wait to learn about alien life directly from them if they choose to contact us. To me, it seems as if there is some conflicting information regarding the nature of the aliens/brothers. If they are at a higher plane of existence, I would doubt they need to barter/buy anything.
I do not agree with you assessment of money. Money is in fact a barter tool. It has existed in some form since about 1,000 years BC. It is the natural extension of barter, because as society became more sophisticated, establishing relative values becomes too complicated and you need to allow the ââ,¬Å"marketââ,¬Â to handle that process.
I would argue, that attention should be paid to banking. The first banks were established by the Knights Templar. History follows an interesting path from that point forward. Credit has become a central component of our modern world. It may be good, it may be bad (like most human inventions). Lending represents an allocation of resources (investment). If implemented fairly, it can work very well. If implemented poorly, it can harm everyone involved.
jeffc
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on October 02, 2008, 01:57:33 AM
and if you actually read the article, you must have missed
"While one-to-one bartering is still practiced between individuals and businesses on an informal basis, organized barter exchanges have developed to conduct third party bartering. The barter exchange operates as a broker and bank and each participating member has an account which is debited when purchases are made, and credited when sales are made. With the removal of one-to-one bartering, concerns over unequal exchanges are reduced.
Modern trade and barter has developed into a sophisticated tool to help businesses increase their efficiencies by monetizing their unused capacities and excess inventories. The worldwide organized barter exchange and trade industry has grown to an $8 billion a year industry and is used by thousands of businesses and individuals. The advent of the internet and sophisticated relational database software programs has further advanced the barter industry's growth. Organized barter has grown throughout the world to the point now where virtually every country has a formalized barter and trade network of some kind. Complex business models based on the concept of barter are today possible since the advent of Web 2.0 technologies."
apparently US citizens are not intelligent enough to manage their own assets from what i see, which is amusing, since money is the thing they value most but they can't be bothered to educate themselves on how to properly use it. so they pay someone else to do it for them, this coupled with the "someone else" being ready and eager to exploit the mindless sheep and you end up with the mess the US economy is in now.
i thought democracy was the worst system out there, or was it capitalism? i love seeing people take someone else's words for their own.
I don't understand this argument. Nobody said barter doesn't have some place in the modern world. It just doesn't scale all that well without the introduction of currency and a market that allows for the immense diversity in our world. $8billion is not a very big number, and you need to understand that most of this is business to business (b2b) trading of commercial goods, not consumer to consumer (c2c).
Also, you are implying that US citizens are too stupid to manage their money, but yet somehow they could manage the complexities of barter? I'm not sure what country you are from, but are people more intelligent there? Do they using banking and financial services? Do you?
Interesting conversation. My questions imply no disrespect, only curiosity.
regards,
jeffc
Howdy Y'all,
Here is another tidbit about NASA's missions and how they are "supervised" by UFO's
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item145
Blessed Be...
Quote from: jeffc on October 03, 2008, 05:22:31 AM
The first banks were established by the Knights Templar.
Sorry Jeff, banks are much older than this, they existed in some form or another since Baylonian times. Romans, Phoenicians, Egyptians they all had them in one form or other often in the form of money changers and money lenders. Babylonians actually used cheques which could be converted to currency as the need arose and freed merchants from traveling with large amounts of currency as a guard against robbery.
The modern term bankrupt comes from the Latin banca rotta, meaning a bank with no money.
Hans von Lieven
And if u want to go deeper, females and food.
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 03, 2008, 05:32:37 PM
Sorry Jeff, banks are much older than this, they existed in some form or another since Baylonian times. Romans, Phoenicians, Egyptians they all had them in one form or other often in the form of money changers and money lenders. Babylonians actually used cheques which could be converted to currency as the need arose and freed merchants from traveling with large amounts of currency as a guard against robbery.
The modern term bankrupt comes from the Latin banca rotta, meaning a bank with no money.
Hans von Lieven
I stand corrected Hans. I've been preoccupied with the Knights recently. In any case my point was that banking is not some new, modern concept. It has been around for a very long time (which you rightly point out goes back many centuries).
Many people now are so anti-bank that they are confusing banking with indebtedness. Banks do not force people to make loans. It is personal greed which drives personal debt and banks play off of that greed. I am not, however defending any predatory lending practices which I am sure have occurred in some institutions.
We are probably well off topic here anyway. And if the visitors show up on the 14th maybe we won't need $$ any more ;D
Regards,
jeffc
Quote from: jeffc on October 04, 2008, 02:58:17 AM
We are probably well off topic here anyway. And if the visitors show up on the 14th maybe we won't need $$ any more ;D
Regards,
jeffc
You are probably right Jeff, if they do show up we will not need dollars anymore, we will just have to pay with Arcturian whatchermaycallits or Pleidan credits. Take your pick. :D :D :D :D :D
Hans
Blossom goodchild UPDATE!
12.The days are drawing ever closer to your visit. Iââ,¬â,,¢d bake a cake in your honour but I have absolutely NO culinary skills! I await your next report and as far as I can gather ââ,¬Â¦ so does most of the world. (Gulp!)
We are with you dear lady and we bring you peace of mind and heart. Tension is mounting in various avenues of your planet and quite rightly so, for there are those who are aware of our coming and our living out great concern, for their actions are now to be accounted for. Let it be known that we are only of LOVE therefore we send LOVE TO ALL.
You have heard that many are experiencing headaches and asking if this is due to our arrival. It is not our intention to cause disruption in the head area, and yet it appears that indeed our frequency is resonating with some on a level that is causing such a malady. For this we apologize and we say it is wise to drink of your purest water. We also suggest that you place you first two digits of each hand either side of your temples, (you will ââ,¬Ëœfeelââ,¬â,,¢ the correct place) and visualize the pressure being released through the third eye position. As if like a blue electric line. This we believe will assist that particular imbalance.
Well, my friends, it feels rather odd now talking to you, knowing that the big day is just over a week away. I can only ask you to accept the LOVE that those on our planet are sending out to you. I am SURE you are receiving it. We all wait ââ,¬Â¦ What is going on for you??
ââ,¬ËœFull speed ahead. Every thing is in place. Every being is in position. Monitoring systems are in full capacity. All is ready. Only one thing left to do ââ,¬Â¦.
Show up???????????
Precisely dear Blossom. Precisely. We are cruising at this juncture and setting levels in order to keep abreast of atmospheric changes.
Of course you must know by now that some will question the fact that you have said ââ,¬Ëœfull speed aheadââ,¬â,,¢ and then ââ,¬Ëœwe are cruisingââ,¬â,,¢. You know what ââ,¬Â¦ in LOVE and respect for the entire human raceââ,¬Â¦ I refuse to buy in to all this. I have learnt a great deal lately and what people choose to assess from these channellings is completely up to them, and I will not allow myself to be influenced by what others may or may not make of your words. I shall now jump down of my soap box and ââ,¬Â¦ please ââ,¬Â¦ continue forth ââ,¬Â¦
Indeed we are aware of your growth and that of many, many upon your earth plane. In some aspects we are experiencing a joy that we had not accounted for. In others, we are deeply saddened by those who have locked their souls in a dungeon of fear and mistrust.
We come to bring the key. To release those in chains if they allow us.
OPEN YOUR EYES ... YOUR HEARTSââ,¬Â¦ YOUR MINDS ââ,¬Â¦ YOUR BEING.
Allow us in, for there shall be not one moment of regret should you choose to do so.
Very soon now, people of earth, shall our presence be known to you. This great occasion is to be celebrated by ONE. ALL OF US.
Accept us in your TRUTH as we draw closer to your earthly vibration, and remember of the (small) tremor that we spoke of. We speak of this so that there shall be no cause for alarm.
Someone asked if it was to be a physical or earthly tremor? I said both.
It is to be a shuddering within the core of your earth, but it shall cause no damage. It simply can not be avoided. It is of no harm. It shall take place a few days before the time of our appearance.
Another point we would care to state...
Oh please ââ,¬Â¦ feel freeââ,¬Â¦
Is that we do not wish for one to run and hide. We ask those in fear of us to ââ,¬Ëœface those fearsââ,¬â,,¢ and if you do, you will find that we will alleviate them from your being. You will not be able to deny who we are. We stress this. And we say this will be in more ways than one.We have said that you will be ââ,¬Ëœblown awayââ,¬â,,¢ by what we present ââ,¬Â¦. We encourage you to prepare yourselves in JOY AND LOVE for this day.
CELEBRATE OUR UNION.
LAUGH ââ,¬Â¦ PLAY MUSIC ââ,¬Â¦ we would ask that it should be a party that the entire planet is invited to share with us ââ,¬Â¦ THE FEDERATION ââ,¬Â¦ who for so long now have eagerly awaited this magical time in the diary of your earth monitoring.
Struth Ruth!!! If I didnââ,¬â,,¢t know better Iââ,¬â,,¢d be concerned that my aorta isnââ,¬â,,¢t behaving as it ââ,¬Ëœaughtaââ,¬â,,¢ ââ,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦.. I am assuming this is just the nearness of you ââ,¬Â¦ as the song goes.
Dearest brightest Light ââ,¬Â¦ how we rejoice in our choosing ââ,¬Â¦
Yep ââ,¬Â¦ goneââ,¬Â¦ dissolved ââ,¬Â¦ if this LOVE that I am experiencing is anything to go by, Iââ,¬â,,¢d advise the world to invest in the ââ,¬Ëœtissueââ,¬â,,¢ market!
TRULY my friends, for what I am feeling right now ââ,¬Â¦. THANK YOU.
TRULY what we are sending right now ââ,¬Â¦ is just a taster of what is to come.
For this session there is nothing more we require to mention accept.
Here we go ââ,¬Â¦ I knew it ââ,¬Â¦
DIAMONDS.
Actually ââ,¬Â¦ I do not find that as obscure as table or snow cones .
Ah yes, but when you see what we mean by this it shall be crystal clear.
For this day we must sign out. It is necessary.
Mmm! I felt you leaving quite abruptly then. You know what is best. I have no worries about that. Until tomorrow ââ,¬Â¦
banca rotta literally means broken bank. In the spirit of italian language that should be translated as a bank that is broken into peaces and the money has "rolled" out. Like a piggy bank after a quick raid by a minor looking for a change to buy an ice cream.
Can't believe that that monkey alien is still hoping to convince people that his schizofrenia is reality. When I was a kid the next door neighbour was hiding from "them" who were following him with antennas from London...He hang himself one day to screw "them" up. I wonder, if I promise to get a banana, whether the monkey would do the same courageous introspective act and save his butt from incoming aliens? And some server space along the way...
Quote from: jeffc on October 03, 2008, 05:22:31 AM
I do not agree with you assessment of money. Money is in fact a barter tool. It has existed in some form since about 1,000 years BC. It is the natural extension of barter, because as society became more sophisticated, establishing relative values becomes too complicated and you need to allow the ââ,¬Å"marketââ,¬Â to handle that process.
I would argue, that attention should be paid to banking. The first banks were established by the Knights Templar. History follows an interesting path from that point forward. Credit has become a central component of our modern world. It may be good, it may be bad (like most human inventions). Lending represents an allocation of resources (investment). If implemented fairly, it can work very well. If implemented poorly, it can harm everyone involved.
jeffc
Jeff,
I would disagree with your assesment of money somewhat. The money was not invented to simplify definitions of relative values. It was invented as a tax collection device. It was also the first "legal" instrument of deception as the implementing rulers would "guarantee' the value of the money in order to enable exchange of coins for something that had a real value, like food or clothes.
This deception was ingenuously perfected in medieval times by European jews who were already in business of lending the money to the nobilities of european courts, by introducing very cheap paper money with a signature and a warranty on payout of the value as defined in the "contract". From these paper documents stem all our bonds, actions, shares and paper money as we know it today. It was just a worthless paper, but it gave enormous power to the money lenders over their borrowers.
When the royals realised their situations the persecution of jews took place to wipe out the lenders and the debt nobles had with the jewish bankers.
What you aret alking about was an "official" explanation for the use of money but it was not the real reason for using it. The "market" forces back then were not the same as today, and in reality were just as perceived as the value of the paper money. That is to say that we today tend to think about the economic tendencies of the distant history in our today's terms and conditions. The actual "market" powers were simply rulling royals and their transactions with money lenders of their time, who were setting the pace of the financial affairs. Ordinary people were not fazed by the money because they did not have much of it anyway, and had great difficulties in earning it.
The ordinary economies of the day were surviving essentially on goods' exchanges which lasted basically until the end of feudalism as the system. The money co-existed, but you were able to live comfortably without it and with only 3-4 months of work per year.
The money became the major player only in capitalism, when the goods exchange was all but outlawed by the new capitalist rulers, after the capitalist revolutions throughout Europe, thus sealing the fate of people and enslaving them by forcing to accept the paper in return for their work or goods. Locking them into the "contracts" just as they did with the feudalists centurists earlier.
Once you have a contract with the money lender, you in effect work for them. Think of your home mortgage. You are locked in for life. You become their pawn, really. No "market" forces there. Only financial ones, designed to control the crowds through "empowering" them to buy the goods and the services.
That is the real face of the money. While it may be a bit hard to digest, just think of all those european countries that went crazy ( Spain, France, Poland, Germany, Austria, Italy, Portugal, even Russia, etc) against the Jews and were killing them for centuries. It seems a bit to circumstantial to think that they all went crazy by eating wrong mushrooms that autumn, no?
Came out twice...
Howdy Dr. Tesla,
Thanks for that warm sentiment, I appreciate it...
Blessed Be...
Sorry, monkey, I didn't mean to come out warm. Apologies for that. I can't wait for the day to have a laugh and see you running for cover when your guests fail to turn up.
Will be fun to read "explanations". Try the "public transport" one. It always fail to work, but it's legit.
UFO Lights In Washington D.C. on Live Broadcast on BBC - Oct. 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgurwGKVfS8&NR=1
I watched a few youtubes about the UFO and before I went to bed I said to myself:
"I want to dream about a UFO visitation and remember the dream in the morning"
The next morning I remembered a very vivid dream in which I arose from my bed and walked out the door leading to the patio, I stood their and watched as a massive silvery UFO (~100m dia) with maybe 20 bright white lights underneath zoomed silently toward me and then hovered with a wobble right in front of me ~200m away and ~50m high, I stared for a little while and then dashed inside to get my family to come and see, that's all I remember.
It inspired me to write this piece of music:
http://69.10.148.115/yucca/Yucca_UFO_Dream.mp3
Quote from: Yucca on October 04, 2008, 06:30:36 PM
It inspired me to write this piece of music:
http://69.10.148.115/yucca/Yucca_UFO_Dream.mp3
Awesome! Love that vintage synth sound, you are obviously very skilled at music production! Any of that done with Reason(propellerhead) or was that hardware based? Loved the techno part when the synth drums kicked in. Great work!
Quote from: hypersoniq on October 05, 2008, 12:10:08 AM
Awesome! Love that vintage synth sound, you are obviously very skilled at music production! Any of that done with Reason(propellerhead) or was that hardware based? Loved the techno part when the synth drums kicked in. Great work!
hi hypersoniq,
Thanks my friend. Yes that track was all done with Reason, no external hardware.
I was pleased enough when Propellerheads released Rebirth, so much so that I programmed a mini clone version for PocketPC:
http://www.ledset.com/pocketjam I actually first released it as PocketAcid but Sonic Foundry got sleazeball lawyers onto me threatening with all sorts just because I used the word "Acid" in some music production software. I was listening to Acid music before Sonic Foundry was born the bastards!
Anyway when Propellerheads released Reason it blew me away, and it still does, to buy that amount of hardware would cost tens of thousands.
best, Yucca.
Why does Stefan allow his precious bandwidth to be used for this shite?
Quote from: Yucca
I actually first released it as PocketAcid but Sonic Foundry got sleazeball lawyers onto me threatening with all sorts just because I used the word "Acid" in some music production software. I was listening to Acid music before Sonic Foundry was born the bastards!
No doubt Sony's influence. They just love litigation...
Howdy Y'all,
Here is another update from Mark Kimmel...
http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Marks_Corner/
Blessed Be...
Saturday, October 4, 2008
Moon
The following information was provided on 10/4/08. This is my 8th posting to Mark’s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order.
I am Brenton of Andromeda, my greetings to you from our starship.
When we last communicated, I said to you that the Earth originally had no moon. The artificial satellite, which you call “the moon,†was inserted into Earth’s orbit quite recently in terms of the life of the planet.
As you can imagine it took a great power to do this. Observations of the backside of the moon, by human probes and astronauts, confirm that there are artificial structures there. These are part of the artificial nature of the moon. Earth’s moon does not rotate because she is an observation platform.
The moon has major effects on the planet and her people. It causes the tides, which wash the shore of the land unevenly, and affects fisherman and others who must traverse the seas. The moon affects the cycles of women. The moon also creates an artificial time.
These are but part of the control placed upon this planet and her people by a very powerful dark force that enslaved this region of the galaxy. In addition to inserting the moon, it tilted Earth’s axis of rotation. Earth was not tilted prior to this point. This was done, to show the very planet the power of the darkness, to place her in chains if you will.
Over the next few months, we will remove the moon, and we will right the planet on her axis. Earth will then spin perpendicular to her rotation about the sun, her original rotation. This will moderate the climate of the planet. The temperate zones will no longer experience seasons; growing will be extended to year round, like in more tropical climates. Then the continued heating of the planet will bring about an even more expanded zone in which the climate will be conducive to growing food and other plants. The tropical zone will not be unduly hot.
You can imagine that there will be effects on the weather. That is why we are moving the axis of the planet quite slowly. We anticipate that it may also produce strains on the tectonic plates. We anticipate that after a short period of time, the climate will attain stability, so there will be no more hurricanes or tornadoes. We believe it will be more stable, salubrious and moderate, more conducive to human habitation, without the need for technology to battle a constantly cycling climate.
The removal of the moon will also be done slowly so as to interrupt things on the planet’s surface minimally. It will be withdrawn gradually, perpendicular to the surface. Over time you will see the moon gradually retreat from Earth.
These measures give the humans of Earth an idea of our commitment to helping you. We are restoring Earth to that which it was prior to envelopment by the dark. That dark power has now been dissipated by the combined efforts of your brothers and sisters from other star systems. This has been a project of significant magnitude, a cooperative effort of unprecedented size. It will require continued efforts, involving many large craft, to tow away the moon and to right the axis of the planet.
Cleaning the surface of the planet from the effects of the darkness will be easier. However, it will require the skill of a surgeon, rather than the meat clever of the butcher; the people of Earth will be intimately involved in that process.
I am Breton of Andromeda. I bid you good by until our next communication. All aboard send their love to our brothers and sisters on the planet.
Whew, that’s it for today folks.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
aaaaah aaaah
I'm rubber you're glue, your words bounce off me and stick to you.
i just love ufo.2012.nwo.ilinumtiuuminuniun
make me happy like furry bear
Quote from: Paul-R on October 05, 2008, 10:00:08 AM
Why does Stefan allow his precious bandwidth to be used for this shite?
He's taking the "freedom of expression" way to far. Just like those "investors" in the USA. And look where it got us all now that extreme capitalism. In deep shit.
Learn stefan and do something while it is still time.
Stop the aliens now. (gawd, me thinks me is infected now too...)
this is a good site to bookmark http://10-14-08.blogspot.com/
Are these the lightships being picked up on our own weather satelites?
Ive downloaded google earth and can confirm im witnessing these triangular shapes are actualy moving slowly and not just fixed.
Quote from: shooter001 on August 27, 2008, 01:21:01 PM
A trans channel who has written her own books has put her reputation on the line by stating that on the 14th October 2008 a 2000 mile long UFO will hover for 3 days in the sky for all to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zhzvbBOu_I
Put her reputation on the line?, yeah sure
Where do you people come up with this stuff!?
Heres your source for the October 14th prediction http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SFyK2N4RG_o&feature=related
Sorry to shatter you conspiracy dreams, what we have here is an imaginative book writer with not so subtle advertising for her book, sheesh!
While everyone is looking to the skies for aliens, I will still be building ordinance and stockpiling supplies for what appears to be a little bit of trouble brewing here on our planet. Hopefully it won't come to it but I think the second american revolution will not be as easy as the first one was. Peace.
Quote from: RunningBare on October 06, 2008, 07:39:49 AM
Put her reputation on the line?, yeah sure
Where do you people come up with this stuff!?
Heres your source for the October 14th prediction http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SFyK2N4RG_o&feature=related
Sorry to shatter you conspiracy dreams, what we have here is an imaginative book writer with not so subtle advertising for her book, sheesh!
I was wondering the same thing. Where do they come up with this. This is a project Blue Beam government controlled.
Crash the money markets, Divide the people, Call in some aliens (If you want to Believe that), Divide the people again and so on and so on.
Channel UPDATE!
SaLuSa 06-October-2008
There is so much happening you find it difficult to keep up with it. It will continue to be a roller coaster ride for some time, but out of the tumultuous events you will see a direction being taken, that promises to set you in a different one. From hereon it will appear to be forming slowly and as you progress it will take you beyond the trials and tribulations you now experience. Out of it you will see a much more acceptable way of life, that will reflect a new approach that shows a love and caring for the welfare of all people. Until that time there will be many heartaches and sorrow, but it will be a passing phase so necessary if a thorough cleansing is to take place. Have no fear that you will be let down, as your needs are known and will be fully attended to within a relatively short time. For many years you have waited for this great step up in your evolution, and it has come upon you so suddenly,.
Soon the floodgates of truth will open and your true history and links to us will be revealed. We are here by divine order as although you are adaptable and resilient in the face of difficulties, the tasks ahead require our assistance. In the present climate and given man’s history of perpetual wars, you could not achieve the world cooperation that is necessary to establish permanent peace. There has to be trust, and forces such as ours are capable of ensuring that any agreements were honoured. We have the personnel and technology to carry it out and back it up, which is why we would be successful.
Your energy and resources need to be used to obtain the best results for the good of all. New methods of operation will move you on, and take you away from the wasteful and damaging processes you use in many industries. This will enable the cleansing of the Earth to proceed, without fear of repetition of the previous widespread pollution. The extent of the problem is far greater than you realise, and with the rapid decline that is taking place your Earth would have become totally poisoned. We mention these matters because it is important that you are aware of how urgent it is that we join you, and immediately tackle such massive worldwide problems.
Your welfare will be equally attended to and we have many different groupings within our fleets, all with great experience and expertise specialising in their own part of the program to lift you and the Earth back up. What is happening to you is like a nightmare or dream, according to how enlightened you are and well informed of the coming end times. There are many expectations according to your background and upbringing, your education and religious training. Within most is a knowing of some event that signals the completion of your time on Earth. As long as people expect and desire the outcome to be the best for all Mankind, the nature of your beliefs is not so important. However, it is essential that you have an awakened consciousness and recognise the Oneness of all life. Love is the energy that will carry you ever onwards, and must be freely given with compassion and understanding to those who still flounder in the dark.
You are not just linked together on Earth, but to all life beyond it and in the Universe. We are like you and seek the path that leads back to the Source, and there is a driving force that constantly urges all souls to rise up to ever higher realms. Your understanding of this quest varies according to your beliefs, but before the end of this cycle has been reached you will all have had the opportunity to find the answers. This will enable you to make an intelligent and informed choice as to whether you ascend, or stay within the lower vibrations for another cycle.
Our coming will accelerate your upliftment, whilst at the same time we also assist Mother Gaia to prepare for her Ascension. Beautiful times lay ahead and not that far forward, and most souls now present will experience these wonderful final years to the completion of this cycle. It is in your life plans and nothing you are experiencing now was not foreseen as part of your lifetime. It may seem that you are thrown around by random events, but you are directed and guided by many Beings who accompany you on your journey. Of course you have freewill, but that was exercised before you came to Earth and your challenge is to leave it with your plan fulfilled.
Dear Ones, you have come so far to reach this final period, and if you did but realise how important it is, you would not be distracted by the outer events around you. It is your future that is in the balance, and you will need every focus upon your vision of the future. Leave old problems and unfinished business behind you, as they are no longer of importance. Settle your differences with whomever you still have difficulties in forgiving for any misdeeds against you. You cannot take them into the higher realms with you, as it would not be befitting of an ascended soul. As you lift up your vibrations so these challenges become so much easier to handle, as you have a totally different outlook upon life. Gone is the judgemental approach and wounded pride that so often leads to problems. Instead there is a feeling of peaceful countenance and love that overcomes all obstacles, and sees all that is positive and godlike in all people.
Be your real selves as much as you can, and if you fall back do not be hard on yourselves. You are meant to have experiences from which to learn about physicality. If you were perfect you would not be on Earth, as your vibrations would draw you to the higher realms. With Ascension you will attain a state of awareness that will be so much more developed than at present. Also your creative powers will be such that you will be able to think into being anything that you desire. The differences to what you are now will be monumental, and it is difficult to convey in words how you will feel. You will have the freewill to choose your next experience, and freedom to journey anywhere in the Cosmos. You may join us or travel elsewhere in service to other souls who need the benefit of your experience, as it will be your choice.
I am SaLuSa from Sirius and privileged to come to you at such an important time. Be the loving souls that you really are and use your Love and Light where you see a need for upliftment, and also be joyful as you enter the final days of darkness. You will help much more than you could possibly know.
Thank you SaLuSa.
Mike Quinsey.
Quote from: shooter001 on October 06, 2008, 09:35:07 AM
Channel UPDATE!
SaLuSa 06-October-2008
Soon the floodgates of truth will open
Mike Quinsey.
Can you give us a time frame on that, dinner time, tea time?, I need to make plans.
Quote from: RunningBare on October 06, 2008, 09:59:03 AM
Can you give us a time frame on that, dinner time, tea time?, I need to make plans.
It will be tea time i believe :)
Hey, SaLuSa. Good to hear from you.
I just have a couple simple questions.
Are you from Sirius proper, that is, the star itself? Or are you from some planet nearby Sirius?
And are we still on track for October 14th?
Thanks in advance--
--TK
Quote from: TinselKoala on October 06, 2008, 10:47:42 AM
Hey, SaLuSa. Good to hear from you.
I just have a couple simple questions.
Are you from Sirius proper, that is, the star itself? Or are you from some planet nearby Sirius?
And are we still on track for October 14th?
Thanks in advance--
--TK
Salusa is the name of the entity channeled by Mike Quinsey which i copied and pasted for you to read. The October 14th event is still on track to happen. Only 7 days 9 Hours and 6Mins and counting ::)
Quote from: shooter001 on October 06, 2008, 10:56:11 AM
Salusa is the name of the entity channeled by Mike Quinsey which i copied and pasted for you to read. The October 14th event is still on track to happen. Only 7 days 9 Hours and 6Mins and counting ::)
Shooter
Do you know much about Mike Quinsey
Has he been channeling very long?
When I read stuff that Blossum has channeled my higher self usually responds in some way .
My higher self is not always in complete agreement with Blossum but in general there is agreement .
When I read stuff that Mike has channeled my higher self is quiet . I don't identify with it at all .
It feels to me like it is coming from an intellectual place rather than a spiritual place.
gary
Quote from: resonanceman on October 06, 2008, 11:41:19 AM
Shooter
Do you know much about Mike Quinsey
Has he been channeling very long?
When I read stuff that Blossum has channeled my higher self usually responds in some way .
My higher self is not always in complete agreement with Blossum but in general there is agreement .
When I read stuff that Mike has channeled my higher self is quiet . I don't identify with it at all .
It feels to me like it is coming from an intellectual place rather than a spiritual place.
gary
I know what you mean, but ive thought about this and to put it in perspective its like different leaders of different countries each giving a common message but each inspire in a different way. So i think the general consensus from them is similair but there may be room for variation. I remember reading some members of the federation just wanted an outright landing while others are more cautious.
Here is a link for some info on Mike Quinsey http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/new_welcome_home_page_of_et_f.htm
Quote from: shooter001 on October 06, 2008, 11:49:45 AM
I know what you mean, but ive thought about this and to put it in perspective its like different leaders of different countries each giving a common message but each inspire in a different way. So i think the general consensus from them is similair but there may be room for variation. I remember reading some members of the federation just wanted an outright landing while others are more cautious.
Here is a link for some info on Mike Quinsey http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/new_welcome_home_page_of_et_f.htm
Shooter
Thanks I will check out his site a little later.
I agree that there is room for differences . In fact to reach a large number of people there HAS to be differences. Each message has its own intended audience .
For me that bottom line is God is love.
There just isn't near as much love in his channeling as I am used to .
gary
Howdy Y'all,
Ancient Arrow Book...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item149
Blessed Be...
Quote from: Paul-R on October 05, 2008, 10:00:08 AM
Why does Stefan allow his precious bandwidth to be used for this shite?
Why are you even looking at this threat if you have no interest in it?
If you have no interest in something you stay away.
It's stefans decision not yours you are minority it seems.
People say and do the dumbest things...........
I am certainly interested and so are many others just look at the activity
so what's your PROBLEM?
professor
Quote from: z.monkey on October 06, 2008, 02:20:06 PM
Howdy Y'all,
Ancient Arrow Book...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item149
Blessed Be...
Trying to download it I was informed that the file is corrupt.
Hans von Lieven
Doh!
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 06, 2008, 06:22:32 PM
Trying to download it I was informed that the file is corrupt.
Hans von Lieven
Hi Hans,
I think it is indeed corrupt. But here is a link to its source:
www.wingmakers.com (http://www.wingmakers.com)
On the left frame there is a list of chapters 1-8. The whole book is 17 chapters, I think, but is available for purchase. You will get enough of an idea of what happened from the first 8 chapters. THEN continue with the 4 interviews. They were taken after the book leaves off and you can figure out what happened so you shouldn't mind only reading the first 1/2rd of the book.
I found it to be a well written and exciting adventure to tell the tale. I believe it is a novelized version of the truth. It isn't too hard to figure out.
Enjoy!
jeanna
Check this out, its a video of the sky taken from the ground that looks consistant with what we are seeing on google earth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K4vSIUokEU
I thought I had already posted this but it looks like I missed it.
Message form blossom goodchild
13.Gotta be honest, feeling REALLY tired today … moan moan moan … just wondering if my energy is a bit too low in order to pick up with you?
Lift your spirits dear friend. We are here.
Yep … got that exploding in my heart again suddenly. Good morning … Are you well?
Indeed. We know not of illness. There is much speculation upon your planet as to the whys and wherefores of our arrival. Please let it be known that we do not wish to confuse, that is not of our nature. It is simply that certain methods of discretion are important in order for our mission to succeed. There is little more that is required now. We are very astute and we are of much gratitude for those who are assisting in LOVE on your plane. Collect your thoughts dear ones. Present yourselves to yourselves … are you happy with what you see? Are you proud of how you feel about yourself as you meet it? We ask this of you … concentrate on all the LOVE that is you. Let go of all manner of things that do not serve you in LOVE. It is time now to release them. With our coming you are able to advance your souls evolvement in a fashion that will assist your own individual vibration.
I do know about everywhere else in the world but here in Australia they are showing all the fear based movies such as War of the Worlds etc. I DO HOPE people can see through this. How lovely it would be if they were to show ‘Close Encounters’ or ET, but NO …
My friends , I feel a little low today …I feel so much hope in your visit, for I am bombarded with views from others that indeed show me how much LOVE is needed in this world of ours. And in my heart I KNOW you come to show us a better way… and BOY DO WE NEED IT.
May this be understood by all. We are not making ourselves known in order to conflict with TRUTHS of the soul. We are making ourselves KNOWN in order to WAKE UP many who still sleep. When they awake, there shall be a new ‘feeling’ upon your planet. The beauty that one feels inside will be expressed out to the world and enhance all things upon and within it.
ACCEPT US DEAR SOULS OF EARTH. IF YOU LISTEN TO YOURSELF ALONE YOU SHALL KNOW OF OUR TRUTH.
Refrain from judgment until you have the facts before your very eyes. As we have stated before, upon our arrival there shall be NO QUESTION that we come from somewhere outside your earthly vibration and that indeed we are of great Love for each and every one of you.
Be of peace this day and in the days that follow. Be of good cheer. Take care of each other as we move forward into the great Light of Divinity. For we are all from this LIGHT and those that are in darkness shall one day join their brothers on the pathway home. We ask that you send much Love to the souls that have hidden agendas to cause harm and alarm upon your blessed earth. They are lost in the depths of human greed. Bring them safely home. For we are all brothers and sisters. We are ONE family … ONE energy … therefore as words have been spoken in years behind you … do unto your brother as you would do unto yourself.
WE ARE LOVE. YOU ARE LOVE.LOVE IS ALL THERE IS.
Allow it to express itself through you, in you, as you. We encourage you to rest now Blossom. Everything is in perfect order for our visit and IT SHALL BE SO.
I accept what you say. Feeling better now. You’re right …I know you’re right … how easily we ‘sink’ when energy is low. Eh…. Is that it for today then? No little jigsaw pieces to add.
Yes. SHINE YOUR SHOES.
I’ve got to admit … feel a bit dodgy about that one (not saying I felt ‘safe’ about the others!, yet they seem to be piecing together nicely) so … back to that famous word … TRUST. Shine your shoes it is! Intrigued by that one, but I was the same with snow cone and table.
Dare I ask, just feel I need to know for sure … …is that you that is being hidden on Google earth? Some are saying that is the table clue. If it is … that’s big!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did we not say a craft of HUGE size?
So is it you? I feel you are saying ‘yes’, but to be honest here… I’m questioning it, in case I’m wrong. I’ve been sitting here a few minutes thinking about this and now I am laughing. I feel you want me to put
YYYYEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
So there you are … in for a penny, in for a pound. At this point in the process ... what have I got to lose? Oh guys … I feel so much better than when I began today. Lets ALL remember to keep everything we do /are full of that good old LOVE LIGHT AND LAUGHTER. Lets not focus on talk of anything other. I’m putting the kettle on guys … one lump or two? Many thanks
And in deep gratification to you dear lady. In LOVE. .
I think I may have found the answer to the next clue from blossom goodchild.
"Allow it to express itself through you, in you, as you. We encourage you to rest now Blossom. Everything is in perfect order for our visit and IT SHALL BE SO.
I accept what you say. Feeling better now. You’re right …I know you’re right … how easily we ‘sink’ when energy is low. Eh…. Is that it for today then? No little jigsaw pieces to add.
Yes. SHINE YOUR SHOES."
the answer = I giant golden footprint in the sky.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1069358/Giant-golden-footprint-autumn-sunset-touch-God.html
Quote from: professor on October 06, 2008, 03:57:35 PM
Why are you even looking at this threat if you have no interest in it?
If you have no interest in something you stay away.
What I am interested in is free energy research, and your facile crap is helping
to make this site a joke. The software cannot cope with energy traffic and it is
astounding that Stefan does not tell you to find somewhere else to go. There are
plenty of others. You could open a Yahoo Group, for instance, and get a better
service while you are there.
Quote from: shooter001 on October 07, 2008, 08:20:16 AM
I think I may have found the answer to the next clue from blossom goodchild.
"Allow it to express itself through you, in you, as you. We encourage you to rest now Blossom. Everything is in perfect order for our visit and IT SHALL BE SO.
I accept what you say. Feeling better now. You’re right …I know you’re right … how easily we ‘sink’ when energy is low. Eh…. Is that it for today then? No little jigsaw pieces to add.
Yes. SHINE YOUR SHOES."
the answer = I giant golden footprint in the sky.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1069358/Giant-golden-footprint-autumn-sunset-touch-God.html
i have see many clouds and thats look like normal to me
and
The Big day IS 18.11.2008 something special is gonna happen
happy birthday mickey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse
Howdy Y'all,
Here is another update from Mark Kimmel...
http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Marks_Corner/
Blessed Be...
Tuesday, October 7, 2008
An earlier time
The following information was provided on 10/6/08 and 10/7/08. This is my 9th posting to Mark’s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order.
Greetings, I am Flavius, another incarnation of Mark’s cumulative oversoul. I was on Earth during the time of the Roman Empire, more specifically the time of Emperor Constantine.
My full name is Flavius Antonius Regatta. I was born in the town of Gandolfo in what is now known as Italy. In those days it was a small town, an agricultural center. My father was a government official, a Senator to Rome, as well as a local government official. My mother was Judicia. I had three brothers; all were younger. When I was a boy, my family would travel to the seacoast to play and relax. We were wealthy by the standards of those days with a large house and substantial grounds. My father had slaves who worked the land, growing olive trees, fruits and vegetables. I was schooled by a tutor who taught me many things, including honor for the traditional Roman gods. My family honored all the ancient ways of Rome, and that which was conventional at that time.
According to family tradition, I went into the army. As the son of a Senator, I was accorded the rank of centurion. I worked hard to be a good soldier and quickly rose in the ranks. I was but a young man when I became a tribunus laticlavius, the second in command of a legion of six thousand men.
When I was about twenty, Emperor Constantine decreed that the Christianity would become the state religion. This was over the vigorous objections of my father and other members of the Senate. After that decree, all who would not give up the old ways, the worship of the Roman gods, were punished. My father lost his estate because he refused to give into Constantine’s demands.
As a member of the Roman army I was pledged to carry out the will of my emperor. I was ordered to use my men to enforce the new religion. It was not a pretty sight as we entered homes to remove the old idols and crush resistance. Many people were killed in the name of the new religion. This was all done to appease the leaders of the new religion who demanded obedience from all in the name of Constantine. Rather than oppose the new religion, I went along with it.
Eventually I could stand no more and requested that I be transferred away from Rome. Because I had followed orders, my request was granted. I marched with one thousand fresh troops from Rome to Gaul. A caravan who supplied the army followed in our wake.
At that time Gaul was divided into several parts. Eventually I was given command over the part known as Belgica. It was the area of Europe that now encompasses Belgium, Holland, and part of Germany.
There at last I was free of the dark cloud that was sweeping the whole of Italia, a dark cloud of forced obedience to the will of the new state religion. In Gaul I was free to worship as I wished, and I did so. I had secreted some of the old idols of the Roman gods with me and I now displayed them in my tent.
I should mention here that life in this new command was very harsh. I had not experienced much snow before and the winter in northeastern Gaul was quite difficult, both for me and for my men. We inherited only rudimentary fortifications. My first order was to build a number of buildings in what is now know as Brugge. In those days it was a small town on a river leading to the northern sea. (Mark, you have visited Brugge and wondered at your connection to the place. That is because it was my home for several years.)
Homosexuality was quite common in the Roman army, particularly among the men of lower rank. It was accepted as a common practice; it was not viewed as abnormal or evil. In fact, sexuality was fairly open within all of Roman society, prior to the restrictions placed upon it after the church became the official religion of the state.
It was quite common for a married man in the army to have a mistress, for he would be gone for many years at a rime, leaving a family in Italia. Only the men of higher rank, usually of noble birth, were allowed to marry when they were in the army. Because those of lower rank could marry only when their term was finished, and because opportunities for mistresses were reserved for the officers, they turned to homosexuality.
The easy sexual mores of the nobility were accepted because many of noble birth were part of the army and the men were away for long periods of time. This was condoned by the native religion of Rome with its many gods and goddesses. In fact, the roman orgy, with its wine, was a part of life.
The Christian church saw the power of the army and wished to control it. They viewed homosexuality as an evil, and set out to exploit it. This church adopted the role of enforcer of mores, against the army. It was an attempt by the church bishops to grab more power, and it worked.
After the church became the state religion, a priest was sent to accompany the army when it traveled. The purpose of the priest was to minister, and to uphold the ban on homosexuality. It was a very divisive matter. Those who wished to practice homosexuality clung to the worship of the older gods and goddesses, rather than embracing Christianity. It made for much discontent among the ranks of the army.
I offer this as typical of the things that were imposed upon the people by the Christian church as a means of gaining control over the total populace. All of this was done with the consent of Constantine who had made an unholy alliance with the church leaders.
Constantine was interested in gaining better control over the populace. The popularity of the followers of Jesus was a disturbing factor in his rule. He was smart enough to encourage Christianity to become the state religion thereby gaining control over all segments of the population. He already had control of traditional Roman society through the nobility and through the army. However, forcing the new religion on people who opposed it was a bloody experience. I have already described how the army was used to root out those who did not embrace the new religion. Constantine did not fully appreciate what he had initiated, until it was too late.
The church has rewritten much of the history of this era to portray it as the will of the people; it was not. It was the desire of an emperor to impose control over an unruly segment of his populace. It had many unforeseen consequences.
I did not know what was included in the official text of the church, or what was left out. I had no first-hand knowledge of that, and had little interest of that in those days. I can attest to the bloody, ruthless ways in which it was imposed on the population. Christians were a minority at the time I was growing up. Constantine used this vocal minority to impose his will. Now, from my position as one who has ascended from Earth, I can now tell you that certain key points of dogma were fabricated and/or distorted.
I communicate with you as one who witnessed the bloody institution of the Christian church during the reign of Constantine. Mark, you are now witnessing the end of Christianity; it is fitting that we should collaborate. As the existence of extraterrestrial life becomes apparent, the enormity of the Christian imposition, based in the papacy, will be disclosed. This will tear Christianity apart as many paint ETs as evil. Fundamentalists will become so dogmatically non-accepting of their brothers and sisters from other star systems that many of their number will come to reject their dogma as too extreme.
There is some hope, among those of us who watch this process that the true meaning of Jesus’ life on your planet will come forth. It would be a beautiful experience for you to behold the love in which he carried all people. Jesus was walking love. He loved Earth, loved humanity. He came, amidst the darkness imposed upon the planet, to uplift the common man. He succeeded, until the Christian church was formalized. His teachings were largely intact until the church leaders who wished to control the people contorted them at the time of Constantine.
I am Flavius, one who experienced life on your planet in human form. Those of us who reside at the higher realms wish only the best for the many incarnations of our cumulative oversouls. May you fulfill the agreements under which you incarnated, may you be of service in the days of the transition. We support the revelations of both celestials and of your brothers and sisters from other planets.
That’s all for today folks, stay tuned for more.
(Some of what has been communicated here will make more sense after you read my new book, “One, Toward a Civilization of Light.â€)
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
I think the aliens decided to wait until after the elections and have set a new date of Nov 13th.
Jason
Jason,
I do not think the American elections will have much effect in the cosmos. It may be the only thing you ever see or hear about in the news in America.
It isn't the only thing on the news even in other parts of our planet.
I assume therefore, it isn't of much ultimate importance in the view from the galaxy.
Respectfully,
jeanna
Howdy Y'all,
Sirian Update...
http://www.paoweb.com/sn100708.htm
Blessed Be...
Dramu Kasi! (Sirian for Much Love!) We come again as the conditions for a dramatic change on your planet move closer to manifestation. At present, your world is slowly unlocking from the stalemate that has encumbered the type of progress that we dearly desire to see happen. As this process works its way forward, many events have occurred that were predicted by our various projected scenarios for first contact. What we are seeing is the death of the old manifested belief system and the birth of the new one. As we mentioned before, the growing chaos is a mere smokescreen designed to conceal the true dire plans of the dark cabal. These revolve around a global tyranny that is set to emerge out of the present, rapidly deepening crises. However, our Earth allies, with due diligence, are setting the stage for another, more serene and prosperous reality. The important point is for you to not get caught up in the chaos, but to join us in envisioning the coming, far better alternative. This alternative is physically ready to go, and the events that lead to this new reality are already in motion.
An ongoing series of secret negotiations have yielded a definitive set of directives that permit the present US regime to be replaced, legally, with an interregnum of no more than 6-9 months duration. During this period, the interregnum is to function as the legitimate government under special, agreed-upon, emergency provisions. Under its aegis a broad range of reforms is to put in motion a new economic and political system. Since the Depression, a number of major intrusions into the intent of the original Constitution were implemented in the guise of a national economic, and then wartime, emergency. These disfigurations to the Constitution were further massively expanded by the current, illegal US regime, and the purpose of the interregnum is to undo what the dark cabal has so egregiously wreaked. Our first actions are to redo the political system and prepare to be the fair and impartial instrument as intended by the Constitution. Simultaneously, the present economic disaster needs to be untangled and replaced by new fiscal and currency instruments.
The present decline of the dollar is a natural process foreordained by the dark, but also indicated in the plans of our Earth allies for replacing the dollar. During the latter part of World War II, the dollar gained a dominance that is only now beginning to decline. The dark wishes to replace it with a fiat currency based upon a broader union; namely, the North American Union. This is their long-sought way of ending the dream of America in this hemisphere. Our Earth allies are totally opposed to the tyranny that this union represents. The continued use of a highly manipulated fiat currency, which is what the dollar has become, is not this world's way to salvation. Rather, a return to a value-based currency is the bedrock of the new system, backed by vaults filled with gold bars and silver ingots. Helping to accumulate this wealth has been one of our tasks. These secret depositories are ready to come on line when this illegal US regime is ousted from office. With the new currency system in hand, the next move is to issue global debt forgiveness.
Debt forgiveness resets the global economic system and allows the new banking and currency system to start afresh. At present the world fractional banking system has virtually every nation and every citizen in some degree of debt. We need to switch to a hard currency system and use a new method to register debt, if any, in this system. The unprecedented aspect of all this is the amount of universal prosperity accompanying these changes: A veritable ocean of funds is waiting to be distributed, and all that is preventing the disbursement is the restrictive policies of the US regime. Once these restraints are removed, by legal methods we obviously cannot describe at this time, a spigot of enormous wealth can be opened. It is this wealth that transforms the limits of the present system and initiates a new fiscal realm for you. Prosperity brings with it countless new responsibilities, and it behooves you to focus on and envision this coming potential and to dwell less on the chaos of the crumbling old order. All that now seems so frightening will be done away with before long.
The return of your freedoms is taken very seriously by our Earth allies. A plan is underway that is surely loosening the grip of the dark upon this world. After 13 millennia of control, what has been done in the past half-decade is truly amazing. Among the tasks still ahead is to break the backs of a number of obstructions that are slowing things down. By the time you read this, some of these blocks will be removed and the remaining ones will be near resolution. That is all we can say at this time. All of us are working to annul the huge amount of authority that the dark acquired. As this is lifted, new possibilities arise that expand our options, and each obstacle removed accelerates the resolution of the next, and so on. In this way the momentum increases each day, thus assuring our mutual success.
This process of incremental successes has been going on for the past half decade. During this time we have learned much about the dark and have been taught many things by our former Anchara Alliance foes. This new knowledge is being positively used by us to creatively detail each step we make. As it all unfolds, we see just how convoluted is the logic employed by this dark cabal. The degree of its deviousness seems to grow as we progress from one stage to the next. Nevertheless, progress is being made, and so we ask you to focus intently upon your vision for a more prosperous and positive reality. This new reality is to manifest in so many wonderful ways, but the ceaseless blaring of the media news can envelop you in a numbing cacophony that can make it near impossible for you to see this.
The movement toward peace and prosperity is quickening within the very essences of Mother Earth. She dearly wishes for all of you to be free, sovereign, and prosperous. This is expressed in the many loving energies that she daily sends you. If you stop and become silent, and either meditate or just center yourself, you can feel this Love percolating throughout the Earth's atmosphere and within the ripples of energy that come from the Earth's central Sun. The physicality that you reside in is watching as you transform into fully conscious Beings and cheers you on as you move irrevocably toward the transformation line. It is this that makes us know that all our work is to bear fruit and allow us shortly to meet. Then together we can usher in a new reality for you and for this entire galaxy.
The new reality is not just about physical change, but spiritual change as well. You are integrating physical and spiritual changes that are to manifest a 13-chakra system and a fully functioning union between all your RNA/DNA. This individual requires a reality filled with prosperity, true fulfillment, and a Joy that never ends! This is your future, not the scary, tyrannical realm that the dark wants to create for you. We make this point for a reason: Some of you have regressed into a depression of doubt arising from the events of the past few weeks, and yet these events are the necessary prelude to the changes that are coming. Use your intuitive heart logic to snap out of your worries and feel the bright future that quickly approaches!
Today, we continued our discussion about the baleful events of the day. While these may appear bleak, the new is nearly ready to "pop." We are almost at the finishing-line and this is when that final burst of joyous resolve is required of us all. We conclude by reminding you of our unwavering, prime focus: first contact. We now leave. Know, dear Ones, in your Heart of Hearts that the countless Supply and never-ending Prosperity of Heaven are Yours! So Be It! Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!)
Hello All,
Blossom Goodchild has released a FREE 22 track album containing music related to OCT14. My track made it on (Track16), follow the first link in the youtube info text box to download the full album:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNxWJooJVDc
Yucca.
@Yucca
It looks like you really believe that the Aliens will come.
Do yout want to bet with me?
;D
greetings from the earth
Channel Update!
Diane 08-October-2008
Please resist looking back at what were by contrast with today happier times. Of course you have felt more comfortable and settled at different periods of your life. However, you were always destined to experience more chaos and threats to your well being, as the Illuminati planned to strip you of your freedom. To loosen their powerful hold is no easy challenge but as you see it is now falling apart, at the very time they expected to gain more world domination. What is in store for you now bears little resemblance to life under the old Laws, and its restraints that have eroded your rights little by little until you have very few left. You seek fairness and justice, and conditions that take away the worries that plague decent people trying to make a comfortable life for themselves and their families. You should not be in poverty or lack the fundamental rights of access to assistance in such areas as housing and health. All of this will be placed on a new level through the fair distribution of wealth, and our assistance to enable your needs to be met very quickly.
Almost at a stroke our coming will release so much anxiety over your future. You will soon learn of our plan and understand how it will change your lives, and give you what you should have had many years ago. You have been deliberately kept down, and subjected to all manner of events intended to make you reliant upon your Government. They have far from alleviated any condition that was causing you concern, but rather exacerbated the situation for their own ends. Your country is now bankrupt yet at one time it was extremely wealthy, but your wealth has been channelled into the families who have controlled your lives. Through manipulation and covert actions they have kept you in need, and at the same time spent your hard earnt dollars on war and politics to gain world control. Their actions are no longer secret but even so you will be shocked to learn the extent of their power, and the draconian and fearful measures they have used.
Some people have been easily fooled, and there remains a difficult period during which we will have to provide much evidence of what has been taking place in your name. That will not tax our ability to do so, and we shall make the truth known on a world-wide basis. Your media will be unable to stifle or hide the truth, and they have been as a guilty as anyone at hiding it. In the future your leaders will be chosen for their honesty and integrity, and their spiritual awareness. They will speak openly and truthfully and shall intuitively know what is needed. Our presence will be as ones who assist in ensuring the new plan eventually works for all people wherever they are, and equality will be our byword as the standards of your lives are raised up. So many problems will be overcome in the first few months of our contact with you.
Once your day-to-day worries are removed, you will find more time to understand the needs of your spiritual self and you shall also be helped in these matters. After all, the main reason we come to you is to make preparations for Ascension, and it requires that you lift yourselves up to levels that will enable this process to take place for you. So many of you have moved onto this path through your dedication and understanding of the task, whilst others are unsure and seek guidance. Ascension has nothing to do with religion as such, and people of all denominations can be prepared for it. You need the desire and knowledge of what it means, and how you can release yourselves from a mindset that can hold you back.
Ascension is every bit about God and the Divine Plan for your upliftment. It has to said that while every effort will be made to give each of you an opportunity to be part of it, without a fundamental belief in a greater intelligence that guides Humankind it will be difficult to move forward. As we often point out, within the plan for Man there is even so a freewill element that makes it your choice as to where you go from here. One thing is certain, that one has to made before the end of this cycle, as the old paradigm is no longer applicable. If you feel that you are ready live by the application of Love and Light and have accepted the Oneness of all life, you are certainly ready to take the path to Ascension. Intuitively you should know what best suits you for your continuing evolution. There is no disgrace in preferring to continue your experiences in this dimension, as each of you have been given unlimited time to go exactly where your needs take you. You are immortal and have infinite life, and whatever you choose you shall be loved and treasured as are all souls.
In the Divine Plan much emphasis has been placed on giving you an opportunity to ease yourselves into the higher vibrations, and increasingly the Earth has been bathed in them for this reason. It is an awakening process open to each and every one of you, so that none shall be denied the chance to ascend. As your consciousness grows so you will gravitate towards the ways of one who has found the Path of Light. If you are not ready for it, you will simply remain with your beliefs that your present reality is sufficient for you. There is no pushing or pressure to bring you into greater awareness, but any steps in that direction will serve you well in the future. In the ultimate you will one day ascend, as that is your divine future, and encoded within you.
Be assured Dear Ones that what we are doing is for your upliftment and that of Mother Earth, and it is our choice to serve others throughout the Universe. We serve you by serving the Will of God, and God’s energy permeates All That Is. You are as much a part of God as all other life forms, and in that you have your undeniable link with everything that exists. On Earth you have endured lives that have trailed the depths of darkness, but now you can leave it all behind if you so desire. We could quite correctly say that you have the chance of a lifetime to move on, and encourage you all to seriously consider the wonderful plan placed before you. Trust in the Father of Humanity who loves you beyond words, and has opened the way for your release from the dark energies.
I am Diane from Sirius and soon we shall be with you on Earth, an occasion we very much look forward to with great joy and happiness. You need us to help you through the end times of this Cycle of Duality, and that we shall do with great love for you all.
Thank you Diane.
Mike Quinsey.
Quote from: felix.lamet on October 08, 2008, 08:55:16 AM
@Yucca
It looks like you really believe that the Aliens will come.
Do yout want to bet with me?
;D
greetings from the earth
Hi,
What makes you think that? I challenge you to find a post where I state my certainty of the visitation? Just becaue I find the subject tittilating does not mean I 100% believe. I have also written music about other fantastic notions, please forgive me for having fun ::).
You seem keen to polarise? Keen on catagorisation yes? Anything that may jeapordises your "perfect" filing system irritates you yes? That is a weakness, I suggest you try and keep your mind a little more open or you will miss much wonderment in this life. Waxon waxoff.... ;D
I quote a previous post of mine here that regard the OCT14 speculation:
QuoteThe mathematical truth of the matter is that the probability is greater than 0% and less than 100%.
With regard to this subject the only difference between every poster is that everyone has a different probability in mind.
Just because the outcome has a binary result does not mean binary probability function, but because the outcome has a binary result it is a subject that is bound to polarise peoples opinions on the matter.
Best, Yucca.
Quote from: felix.lamet on October 08, 2008, 08:55:16 AM
@Yucca
It looks like you really believe that the Aliens will come.
Do yout want to bet with me?
;D
greetings from the earth
William Hill have a reputation for taking any bet. Why don't these guys
place their life savings with them? They'll get good odds.
Quote from: Paul-R on October 08, 2008, 10:18:47 AM
William Hill have a reputation for taking any bet. Why don't these guys
place their life savings with them? They'll get good odds.
You also seem keen to polarise??? You say "these guys" so it's like us and them. I have never stated that the event is a certainty. If I were to place a bet it would be for fun and I would place a small bet provided I got high enough odds, I certainly would not bet my life savings!
Not one person has addressed my logical argument:
QuoteThe mathematical truth of the matter is that the probability is greater than 0% and less than 100%.
With regard to this subject the only difference between every poster is that everyone has a different probability in mind.
Just because the outcome has a binary result does not mean binary probability function, but because the outcome has a binary result it is a subject that is bound to polarise peoples opinions on the matter.
I presume nobody has a counter argument, nor should they, after all it is irrefutable logic. ;D ;D ;D
best, Yucca.
i was wondering why these UFO lunatics allways come for America
and aliens allways speaks good English ?
Quote
The mathematical truth of the matter is that the probability is greater than 0% and less than 100%.
With regard to this subject the only difference between every poster is that everyone has a different probability in mind.
Just because the outcome has a binary result does not mean binary probability function, but because the outcome has a binary result it is a subject that is bound to polarise peoples opinions on the matter.
I presume nobody has a counter argument, nor should they, after all it is irrefutable logic. Grin Grin Grin
best, Yucca.
This is not irrefutable logic, it is a nonsensical statement that can be applied to any ridiculous proposition.
It could for instance apply to the statement: President Bush will tomorrow be sodomised by the Pope on the Oprah Winfrey show.
What you call logic is an idiot's way to justify anything. The kind of "LOGIC" religion uses.
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 08, 2008, 02:42:35 PM
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The mathematical truth of the matter is that the probability is greater than 0% and less than 100%.
With regard to this subject the only difference between every poster is that everyone has a different probability in mind.
Just because the outcome has a binary result does not mean binary probability function, but because the outcome has a binary result it is a subject that is bound to polarise peoples opinions on the matter.
I presume nobody has a counter argument, nor should they, after all it is irrefutable logic. Grin Grin Grin
best, Yucca.
This is not irrefutable logic, it is a nonsensical statement that can be applied to any ridiculous proposition.
It could for instance apply to the statement: President Bush will tomorrow be sodomised by the Pope on the Oprah Winfrey show.
What you call logic is an idiot's way to justify anything. The kind of "LOGIC" religion uses.
Hans von Lieven
Hans,
I would agree that the chances of bush being entered by the pope on oprah show are tending toward zero ( LOL, my mind is now tarnished by the image :D), however, mathematically the odds are not abolutely zero. Zero probability is an asymptote. What I am trying to say is don't worry about what you would consider absurdities unless someone is attempting to force you to accept them.
Rest assured I know from all of your writings that you are a reasonable man with sharp wit. I am though a little curious as to why you are attracted to a thread which you consider absurd, maybe the small boy within you would be thrilled if UFOs did turn up on OCT14th? I know that boy within me would be! :)
All the best Yucca.
Aliens? I thought aliens were only on TV! ???
Quote from: shooter001 on October 08, 2008, 09:44:32 AM
Channel Update!
Diane 08-October-2008
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In the Divine Plan much emphasis has been placed on giving you an opportunity to ease yourselves into the higher vibrations, and increasingly the Earth has been bathed in them for this reason.
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Is it possible to use a piezo setup to collect these vibrations?
Quote from: shooter001 on October 08, 2008, 09:44:32 AM
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Be assured Dear Ones that what we are doing is for your upliftment and that of Mother Earth, and it is our choice to serve others throughout the Universe. We serve you by serving the Will of God, and God’s energy permeates All That Is.
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Instead of showing up flashing your spaceship lights, show us how we can harness this God energy of yours so that we can run our cars with it. It doesn't by any chance involve tape and straws does it?
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 08, 2008, 02:42:35 PM
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The mathematical truth of the matter is that the probability is greater than 0% and less than 100%.
With regard to this subject the only difference between every poster is that everyone has a different probability in mind.
Just because the outcome has a binary result does not mean binary probability function, but because the outcome has a binary result it is a subject that is bound to polarise peoples opinions on the matter.
I presume nobody has a counter argument, nor should they, after all it is irrefutable logic. Grin Grin Grin
best, Yucca.
This is not irrefutable logic, it is a nonsensical statement that can be applied to any ridiculous proposition.
It could for instance apply to the statement: President Bush will tomorrow be sodomised by the Pope on the Oprah Winfrey show.
What you call logic is an idiot's way to justify anything. The kind of "LOGIC" religion uses.
Hans von Lieven
So bloody WELL said!!! However...the space age cowboys will now shoot more "channelling" to neutralise the positive vibes from your post.
Coz' "we" can't have the voice of reason destroying "our" fantasies.
I wonder that enormous space ship, 3600 KILOMETRES (wide? long? deep?) would be visible any time now by at least Hubble? I mean once a ship comes out of hyperspace, it creates waves in the continuum of time and space that would be fatal for us on earth if it were to simply turn up in the solar system suddenly. Being so big, it would make waves so powerful, no amount of their space-type love would save us. i hope these loving aliens are thinking about that, coz the day is almost here...
(or is it? I am living by Mayan calendar, it's a LOT more accurate than the christian one. And there is no such thing as October in the calendar...)
:D
G'day Yucca,
Now that I have finally convinced the tooth fairy to give me a head job I am no longer arguing with your proposition.
Vive la ridiculous probability. Come on October 14!
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 09, 2008, 02:56:11 AM
G'day Yucca,
Now that I have finally convinced the tooth fairy to give me a head job I am no longer arguing with your proposition.
Vive la ridiculous probability. Come on October 14!
Hans von Lieven
So you don't believe that a spaceship will arrive on the 14th
What is all the ridicule about ? ( not just you Hans )
Can't you just state your beliefs and move on?
It is OK if you have your beliefs . But if others have beliefs that disagree with yours you feel the need to attack .
Why is this ?
Do you think this is humor ? I am sorry but humor is not something intended to make someone else uncomfortable .
Physical ugliness is only skin deep .
People that get their kicks from hurting others or making others uncomfortable have an ugliness of the soul . They are a blight on the human race.
Isn't the primary purpose of this website about sharing information ?
What if everyone here felt the need to ridicule every idea that was different than their ideas ?
If this was my website I would ban anyone that insisted on name calling or ridicule .
gary
Quote from: Yucca on October 08, 2008, 11:19:08 AM
You also seem keen to polarise??? You say "these guys" so it's like us and them. I have never stated that the event is a certainty. If I were to place a bet it would be for fun and I would place a small bet provided I got high enough odds......
You will get high enough odds.
Here they are:
http://www.williamhillmedia.com
Or you could ring Graham Sharpe on his UK mobile: 0780 3233702. If this phone gives some
pre-recorded message about horse racing, try emailing him at
graham.sharpe@williamhill.com, possibly g.sharpe@williamhill.com, or even
sharpeg@williamhill.com
I reckon you should be aiming for odds of 5000:1 Put on a ton if you really believe, and
don't forget your friends when you collect your half a million quid.
Mailed 2 me by a frnd.:
Gh.J.
What's happening on Google Earth???
Weird geometric formations showing up and changing by the hour!
Some of them seem to have cloud cover over parts of the formation. All these four parts have been shot within a span of less than 18 hours
Part-01:
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=fbw7-NlVR3M
Part-02:
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=QJlrkj23Zsg
Part-03:
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=gQXoqp5qJ1s
Part-04:
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=7aKBPdRt3Yc
Alternately Check:
(for explanation of why this stuff could be happening)
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=plYZhnLzPE4
Well well well...dis article was published in 1994 n posted on d following link in 2005! looks eerily similar to what is happening and what could happen!!
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebeam25jul05.shtml
Lemme jus paste the article for your convenience
Lets just keep an open mind and be sure if there are actually two sides to this coin were lookin at
Project Blue Beam
By Serge Monast
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebeam25jul05.shtml
Originally Published 1994
[Note: Serge Monast and another journalist, both of whom were researching Project Blue Beam, died of "heart attacks" within weeks of each other although neither had a history of heart disease. Serge was in Canada. The other Canadian journalist was visiting Ireland. Prior to his death, the Canadian government abducted Serge's daughter in an attempt to dissuade him from pursuing his research into Project Blue Beam. His daughter was never returned. Pseudo-heart attacks are one of the alleged methods of death induced by Project Blue Beam.]
The infamous NASA [National Aeronautics and Space Administration] Blue Beam Project has four different steps in order to implement the new age religion with the Antichrist at its head. We must remember that the new age religion is the very foundation for the new world government, without which religion the dictatorship of the new world order is completely impossible. I'll repeat that: Without a universal belief in the new age religion, the success of the new world order will be impossible! That is why the Blue Beam Project is so important to them, but has been so well hidden until now.
Engineered Earthquakes & Hoaxed 'Discoveries'
The first step in the NASA Blue Beam Project concerns the breakdown [re-evaluation] of all archaeological knowledge. It deals with the set-up, with artificially created earthquakes at certain precise locations on the planet, of supposedly new discoveries which will finally explain to all people the "error" of all fundamental religious doctrines. The falsification of this information will be used to make all nations believe that their religious doctrines have been misunderstood for centuries and misinterpreted. Psychological preparations for that first step have already been implemented with the film, '2001: A Space Odyssey;' the StarTrek series, and 'Independence Day;' all of which deal with invasions from space and the coming together of all nations to repel the invaders. The last films, 'Jurrassic Park,' deals with the theories of evolution, and claim God's words are lies. http://i.am/jah/evolut.htm
Hoaxed "Discoveries'
What is important to understand in the first step is that those earthquakes will hit at different parts of the world where scientific and archaeological teachings have indicated that arcane mysteries have been buried. By those types of earthquakes, it will be possible for scientists to rediscover those arcane mysteries which will be used to discredit all fundamental religious doctrines. This is the first preparation for the plan for humanity because what they want to do is destroy the beliefs of all Christians and Muslims on the planet. To do that, they need some false 'proof' from the far past that will prove to all nations that their religions have all been misinterpreted and misunderstood.
The Big Space Show in the Sky
The second step in the NASA Blue Beam Project involves a gigantic 'space show' with three-dimensional optical holograms and sounds, laser projection of multiple holographic images to different parts of the world, each receiving a different image according to predominating regional national religious faith. This new 'god's' voice will be speaking in all languages. In order to understand that, we must study various secret services' research done in the last 25 years. The Soviet's have perfected an advanced computer, even exported them, and fed them with the minute physio-psychological particulars based on their studies of the anatomy and electromechanical composition of the human body, and the studies of the electrical, chemical and biological properties of the human brain. These computers were fed, as well, with the languages of all human cultures and their meanings. The dialects of all cultures have been fed into the computers from satellite transmissions. The Soviets began to feed the computers with objective programs like the ones of the new messiah. It also seems that the Soviets - the new world order people - have resorted to suicidal methods with the human society by allocating electronic wavelengths for every person and every society and culture to induce suicidal thoughts if the person doesn't comply with the dictates of the new world order.
There are two different aspects of step two.
The first is the 'space show.' Where does the space show come from? The space show, the holographic images will be used in a simulation of the ending during which all nations will be shown scenes that will be the fulfillment of that which they desire to verify the prophecies and adversary events.
These will be projected from satellites onto the sodium layer about 60 miles above the earth. We see tests every once in a while, but they are called UFOs and "flying saucers" sightings.
The result of these deliberately staged events will be to show the world the new 'christ,' the new messiah, Matraia (Maitreya), for the immediate implementation of the new world religion. Enough truth will be foisted upon an unsuspecting world to hook them into the lie. "Even the most learned will be deceived."
The project has perfected the ability for some device to lift up an enormous number of people, as in a rapture, and whisk the entire group into a never-never land. We see tests of this device in the abduction of humans by those mysterious little alien greys who snatch people out of their beds and through windows into waiting "mother ships." The calculated resistance to the universal religion and the new messiah and the ensuing holy wars will result in the loss of human life on a scale never imagined before in all of human history.
The Blue Beam Project will pretend to be the universal fulfillment of the prophecies of old, as major an event as that which occurred 2,000 years ago. In principle, it will make use of the skies as a movie screen (on the sodium layer at about 60 miles) as space-based laser-generating satellites project simultaneous images to the four corners of the planet in every language and dialect according to the region. It deals with the religious aspect of the new world order and is deception and seduction on a massive scale.
Computers will coordinate the satellites and software already in place will run the sky show. Holographic images are based on nearly identical signals combining to produce an image or hologram with deep perspective which is equally applicable to acoustic ELF, VLF and LF waves and optical phenomena. Specifically, the show will consist of multiple holographic images to different parts of the world, each receiving a different image according to the specific national, regional religion. Not a single area will be excluded. With computer animation and sounds appearing to emanate from the very depths of space, astonished ardent followers of the various creeds will witness their own returned messiahs in convincing lifelike reality.
Then the projections of Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Krishna, etc., will merge into one after correct explanations of the mysteries and revelations will have been disclosed. This one god will, in fact, be the Antichrist, who will explain that the various scriptures have been misunderstood and misinterpreted, and that the religions of old are responsible for turning brother against brother, and nation against nation, therefore old religions must be abolished to make way for the new age new world religion, representing the one god Antichrist they see before them.
Naturally, this superbly staged falsification will result in dissolved social and religious disorder on a grand scale, each nation blaming the other for the deception, setting loose millions of programmed religious fanatics through demonic possession on a scale never witnessed before. In addition, this event will occur at a time of profound worldwide political anarchy and general tumult created by some worldwide catastrophe. The United Nation even now plans to use Beethovan's 'Song of Joy' as the anthem for the introduction for the new age one world religion. If we put this space show in parallel with the star wars program we get this: combination of electromagnetic radiation and hypnosis which have also been the subject of intensive research. In 1974, for instance, researcher G. F. Shapits, said of one of the research proposals that, '...in this investigation it will be shown that the spoken words of the hypnotist may also be converted by electromagnetic energy directly and to the subconscious part of the human brain without employing any mechanical device for receiving or transcording the message, and without the person exposed to such influence having a chance to control the information input consciously. It may be expected that the rationalized behavior will be considered to have been taken out of their own free will.'
Anyone investigating so-called 'channelling' phenomena right now would be wise to take this area of research into consideration. It will be noted that those who think of themselves as 'channellers' has escalated rapidly since this type of research was conducted. It is uncanny how similar their messages are, despite which entity they claim to be their source of divine guidance. It would suggest any individual considering the credibility of channelled information should be discerning and critically evaluate where the message they are receiving originates, and if the messages are specifically beneficial to the new world order.
The Sydney Morning newspaper published an item on March 21st, 1983 which announced that the Soviets were invading the human mind, the article having been submitted to the foreign editor by Doctor Nathan Abnuengy, assistant professor in the faculty of agriculture in Asia. It is worth quoting the article at length even though his grammar is a little old. This article relates to the Soviets who created the supercomputer we were discussing earlier and which is really important because these types of computers can be run through satellites and through space. The computers were fed with all the different languages and their meanings, the dialect of all peoples were fed to the computers with objective programs. But we are no longer talking about the Soviets; we are talking about the United Nations, the minions of the new world order, who are feeding the computers with the necessary information.
The editor of the column in which the article appeared even states that the piece made points too important to ignore. I think it is possible that the persons who have created this mega-mind-control-program could sell the software to an organization and not be aware that the client might use the program and data to enslave all of humankind. Just imagine how far they have advanced since that article was published!
Artificial Thought & Communication
The advancement of techniques propel us toward the third step in the Blue Beam Project that goes along with the telepathic and electronically augmented two-way communication where ELF, VLF and LF waves will reach each person from within his or her own mind, convincing each of them that their own god is speaking to them from the very depths of their own soul. Such rays from satellites are fed from the memories of computers that have stored massive data about every human on earth, and their languages. The rays will then interlace with their natural thinking to form what we call diffuse artificial thought.
That kind of technology goes into the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s research where the human brain has been compared to a computer. Information is fed in, processed, integrated and then a response is formulated and acted upon. Mind controllers manipulate information the same way a computer for grammar manipulates information. In January 1991, the University of Arizona hosted a conference entitled, 'The NATO Advanced Research Workshop on Current and Emergent Phenomena and Biomolecular Systems.' What does that mean exactly? It means this: We refer to one paper that was delivered at the conference which stands out for its different attitude towards the development under discussion at that time. It was, in effect, a protest and chilling warning to the attending scientists about the potential abuse of their research findings.
Their findings, of course, stated that the United States has already developed communications equipment which can make the blind see, the deaf hear and the lame walk. It can relieve the terminally ill from pain without the use of drugs or surgery. I'm not talking about science fiction. A man might retain the use of all his faculties right up to the moment of his death. This communications equipment depends upon a completely new way of looking at the human brain and neuromuscular systems and radiation pulses at ultra-low frequencies. Some of this equipment is now operational within the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). It will never be used to make the blind see, the deaf hear and the lame walk because it is central to the domestic political agenda and foreign policy of George Bush and his puppet-masters of the new world order.
Domestically, the new communications equipment is being used to torture and murder persons who match profiles imagined to be able to screen a given population for terrorists; to torture and murder citizens who belong to organizations which promote tolerance and peace and development in Central America; to torture and murder citizens who belong to organizations who oppose the development and deployment of nuclear weapons, and to create a race of slave cult automatons, or what is popularly called 'the Manchurian Candidates.' Overseas experimentation is taking place on hostages held by the United States and Canada, Great Britain, Australia, Germany, Finland and France. Additionally, there has been a long series of bizarre suicides among British computer scientists, all of whom have had some connection to the United States Navy.
What is possible to ask before such a psychology of terror is this: would any government, corporation or psychiatrist wilfully promote such horror today? The answer is quite obviously, 'Yes.'
Government agencies and the corporations that work with them toward new world order are prepared to promote anything that will help them achieve their objective of total social control. As for the question of why: For one thing, if you terrify the public and make them fear for their safety, they will allow you to implement draconian law enforcement practice, disarm them and keep extensive records on them, and they only have to tell you that it is all to protect you, of course. Secondly, it promotes the decay of the present democratic forms of political systems, and leads societies to search for alternative methods of political ideology. Of course, the alternative has already been planned. It is called the new world order and it will not have your safety or interests at heart. As George Bush said: 'Read my lips.' Fear has always been used by powerful elite to control and subjugate the masses.
The old maxim, 'divide and conquer', is being played out to the limit worldwide to ensure that everyone is frightened for their personal safety, and to be suspicious of everyone else. This, too, is mind-control. To go further in regard to the new technology which is at the base of the NASA Blue Beam Project, we have to consider this statement by psychologist James V. McConnell which was published in a 1970s issue of Psychology Today. He said, 'The day has come when we can combine sensory deprivation with drug hypnosis and astute manipulation of reward and punishment to gain almost absolute control over an individual's behavior. It should then be possible to achieve a very rapid and highly effective type of positive brainwashing that would allow us to make dramatic changes in a person's behavior and personality.'
Now, when we talked before about that kind of ray and the telepathic and electronically augmented communication, the kind of rays that are fed from the memories of computers which store massive data about humans, human language and dialects, and we said that the people will be reached from within, making each person to believe that his own god is speaking directly from within his or her own soul, we refer to that kind of technology and that kind of thinking that same psychologist was espousing, that is: we should be trained from birth that we should all do what society wants us to do rather than what we want to do for ourselves; that because they have the technology to do it, no one should now be allowed to have their own individual personality. This statement and these ideas are important because it is the basic teaching of the United Nations that no one owns his or her own personality. And that same psychologist claims that no one has any say-so about the kind of personality they acquire and there is no reason to believe you have the right to refuse to acquire a new personality if your old personality is considered 'antisocial.'
What is important in this declaration is that the new world order will be set up over the current system, meaning the old way of thinking and behavior and religion will be considered the 'old' and incorrect way of thinking and that they can change it at one of the eradication camps of the United Nations to make sure that anyone with this 'antisocial' behavior will be disposed of quickly so that other modified individuals will be able to fulfill the needs and agendas of the new world order without being distracted by the truth.
Could this be the greatest mind control project ever?
The NASA Blue Beam Project is the prime directive for the new world order's absolute control over the populations of the entire earth. I would suggest you investigate this information carefully before dismissing it as fanatic lunacy. If we go further in the different reports we have presented, we find that the mind-control operations and technology include a transmitter that broadcasts at the same frequency as the human nervous-system, which transmitter is manufactured by the Loral Electro-Optical System in Pasadena, California. Loral, a major defense contractor, has previously conducted research on directed energy weapons for Lt. Gen. Leonard Perez of the U. S. Airforce who was searching for a weapon that could implant messages into the minds of the enemy while urging his own troops on to superhuman deeds of valor! The device employs electromagnetic radiation of gigahertz frequencies [microwaves] pulsed at extremely low frequencies (ELF). It is used to torture people both physically and mentally from a distance.
Weapons of this type are thought to have been used against a British woman protesting the presence of American Cruise Missiles at Greenham Common Airbase during the 1970s. This weapon can be used to induce total sensory deprivation by broadcasting signals into the auditory nerve at such high power that it blocks the ability of the individual to hear themselves think!
The process employed by such ELF technology are described in various U. S. Defense Department publications, including one entitled, ' The Electromagnetic Spectrum and Low Intensity Conflict,' by Captain Paul E. Tyler, Medical Commandant, U. S. Navy, which is included in a collection entitled, 'Low Intensity Conflict and Modern Technology Edict,' by Lt. Col David G. Dean, USAF. The paper was delivered in 1984 and the collection published 1986 by Air University Press, Maxwell Airforce Base, Alabama. Another pulse microwave device can deliver audible signals directly to an individual while remaining undetectable to anyone else. The technology is very simple and can be built by using an ordinary police radar gun. The microwave beam generated by the device is modulated at audio frequencies and can broadcast messages directly into the brain. Now here we come to the NASA Blue Beam Project. The broadcasting of subliminal two-way communication and images from the depths of space correspond directly to that kind of technology.
In his book, 'The Body Electric,' Nobel Prize nominee Dr. Robert O. Becker describes a series of experiments conducted in the early 1960s by Allen Frie where this phenomena was demonstrated as well as later experiments conducted in 1973 at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research by Dr. Joseph C. Sharp who personally underwent tests in which he proved he could hear and understand messages delivered to him in an echo-free isolation chamber via a pulsed microwave audiogram which is an analog of the word's sound vibration beamed into his brain. Becker then goes on to state, 'Such a device has obvious application for covert operations designed to drive a target crazy with unknown voices or deliver undetectable instructions to a programmed assassin."
Now figure out when we hear that voice from the new world messiah who would be speaking from space to all of the sane (?) people of the earth who might give instructions to zealots and religious fanatics, we would see hysteria and social mayhem on a scale never witnessed before on this planet. No police forces in the world, even as a combined front, could deal with the disorder that will follow! A 1978 book entitled, 'Microwave Auditory Effect and Application,' by James C. Lynn describes how audible voices can be broadcast directly into the brain. This technology could actually allow the blind to see and the deaf to hear. Instead, it has been turned into a weapon to enslave the world.
Allen Frie also reports that he could speed up, slow down or stop the hearts of isolated frogs by synchronizing the pulsed rate of a microwave beam with the heart itself. According to Dr. Robert Becker, similar results have been obtained using live frogs, which shows that it is technically feasible to produce heart attacks with rays designed to penetrate the human chest.
[EDITOR'S NOTE: Both the author of this report and his colleague died of 'heart attacks' only days apart. I should mention also that Dr. Becker does NOT participate in such research.]
It has been demonstrated that focused ultra high frequency UHF electromagnetic energy beams can be used to induce considerable agitation and muscular activity or induce muscular weakness and lethargy. Microwaves can also be used to burn human skin and aid the effect of drugs, bacteria and poisons or affect the function of the entire brain. These effects were all revealed at length by the CIA on September 21, 1977 in testimony before the Subcommittee on Health and Scientific Research. Dr. Sidney Gottlieb who directed the MK-Ultra program at that time was forced to discuss the scope of the CIA's research to find techniques of activation of the human organism by remote electronic means. So this is something that exists right now, that has been pursued to its highest degree, that can be used from space to reach any person, anyplace on the face of the earth.
If we go deeper in that process of mind control over the people we find that the equipment and technology has been used to influence politics in a much more direct fashion. Michael Dukakis, the Democrat candidate running against George Bush in the 1988 election was targeted with microwave technology in order to impede his public speaking performance once the public opinion polls showed he posed a serious threat to Bush's election prospects. He also claims that the equipment was used against Kitty Dukakis and drove her to the brink of suicide. In the Disneyland world of U. S. politics, a presidential candidate with problems such as these, would obviously lose their race to the White House. In the December 1980 edition of the U. S. Army Journal, called the Military Review, a column by Lt. Col John B. Alexander, entitled, 'The New Mental Battlefield: Beam Me Up, Spock,' provides further insight into the technical capabilities at the disposal of the comptroller. He writes, 'Several examples will demonstrate areas in which progress have been made. The transference of energy from one organism to another; the ability to heal or cause disease to be transmitted over a distance, thus inducing illness or death from no apparent cause; telepathic behavior modification which includes the ability to induce hypnotic states up to a distance of 1,000 kilometers have been reported.
The use of telepathic hypnosis also holds great potential. This capability could allow agents to be deeply planted with no conscious knowledge of their programming. In movie terms, the Manchurian Candidate lives, and does not even require a telephone call. 'Other mind-to-mind induction techniques are being considered. If perfected this capability could allow the direct transference of thought via telepathy from one mind or group of minds to a select target audience. The unique factor is that the recipient will not be aware that thought has been implanted from an external source. He or she will believe the thoughts are original.' This is exactly what we were talking about.
The third step in the NASA Blue Beam Project is called the Telepathic Electronic Two-Way Communication. Lt. Col Alexander's article continues: 'If it is possible to feed artificial thought into the multigenic field via satellite, the mind control of the entire planet is now possible. An individual's only resistance would be to constantly question the motivation behind their thoughts and not act upon thoughts which they consider to be outside their own ideological, religious and moral boundaries.' Once again, it is wise to consider how television, advertising, modern education and various types of social pressure are used to manipulate those boundaries. It has been reported by Lt. Col Alexander who said, in the summary of his Military Review article, 'The information on those kinds of technologies presented here would be considered by some to be ridiculous since it does not conform to their view of reality.
But some people still believe the world is flat.'
Now, this means a lot, because if people do not believe this kind of technology is possible, or that it is science fiction, those people put themselves in great jeopardy, because on the night when those thousand stars will shine from space, during the night when the new messiah will be presented to the world, they will not be prepared and will have no time to prepare to save themselves against that kind of technology. They don't believe and they won't take time to prepare.
This is exactly what happens to people who are convinced by Satan into believing that he doesn't exist, so they have no defence against him. - JAH.
Universal Supernatural Manifestations via Electronics
The fourth step concerns the universal supernatural manifestation with electronic means. It contains three different orientations.
One is to make mankind believe that an alien (off-world) invasion is about to occur at every major city on earth in order to provoke each major nation to use its nuclear weapons in order to strike back. This way, the United Nations Court will require that all those nations which launched nuclear weapons to disarm when the invasion is shown to have been false. And how will the United Nations know that the invasion was false? They will have staged it, of course.
The second is to make the Christians believe that the rapture is going to occur with the supposed divine intervention of an alien (off-world) civilization coming to rescue earthlings from a savage and merciless demon. Its goal will be to dispose of all significant opposition to the implementation of the new world order in one major stroke, actually within hours of the beginning of the sky show!
The third orientation in the fourth step is a mixture of electronic and supernatural forces. The waves used at that time will allow "supernatural forces" to travel through optical fibers, coaxial cables (TV) electrical and phone lines in order to penetrate to everyone at once through major appliances. Embedded chips will already be in place. The goal of this deals with global Satanic ghosts projected all around the world in order to push all populations to the edge of hysteria and madness, to drown them into a wave of suicide, murder and permanent psychological disorders. After the Night of the Thousand Stars, worldwide populations will be ready for the new messiah to re-establish order and peace at any cost, even at the cost of abdication of freedom.
Phasing Out Cash & Independence
The techniques used in the fourth step is exactly the same used in the past in the USSR to force the people to accept Communism. The same technique will be used by the United Nations to implement the new world religion and the new world order. A lot of people ask when this is going to happen and how they will accomplish the visions of the Night of a Thousand Stars, and the events that will point to the days when it will begin. According to the many reports we have received, we believe it will begin with some kind of worldwide economic disaster. Not a complete crash, but enough to allow them to introduce some kind of in-between currency before they introduce their electronic cash to replace all paper or plastic money. The in-between currency will be used to force anyone with savings to spend or turn in their cash because they understand that people who have money and are not dependent upon them might be the very ones who will mount an insurrection against them. If everyone is broke, no one can fund a war of any kind: paper currency will cease to exist. This is one of the first signs.
But to implement the worldwide electronic money system, everyone in the world who might have money in the future, will have to have a way to transfer money electronically. Before that time, everyone will have spent, before the year 2,000, all of their cash, reserves and assets. Everyone has to be 100% dependent upon the Council for their existence. To prevent any kind of independence, the new world order has already implanted micro chips in wild animals, birds, fish, etc. Why? They want to make certain that the people who will not accept the new world order will not be able to hunt or fish any where in the world. If they try, they will be tracked and traced by satellites, then hunted down and imprisoned or killed.
The new world order is already changing the laws of all nations to make everyone dependent upon a single food and vitamin supply. They are changing laws about religion and psychiatric disorders in order to identify anyone who is potentially threatening to the NWO. Those who are found defective will be sent to eradication camps where their organs will be taken and sold to the highest bidders. Those who are not killed outright will be used as slave labor or used in medical experiments. The goal of a dictatorship is to control everyone, everywhere on the planet, ruthlessly and without exception. That's why the new technology being introduced everywhere is a technology for the control of the people. The technology of the 1940s and 1950s was used to help the people have an easier and more productive life.
The new technology is designed and built to track down and control people everywhere. This technology is being manufactured for a specific purpose and to refuse to see and recognize that purpose, which is to enslave the entire populations of the world, is to deny the emergence of the Antichrist and the establishment of the new world order religion and government. If you cannot see, if you cannot learn, if you cannot understand, then you and your family and friends will succumb to the fires of the crematoria that have been built in every state and every major city on earth, built to deal with you. No one is safe in a totalitarian police state!
Serge Monast
Power mongers SUCK! Always have always will. I think it goes back to problems when they were being potty trained. World leaders should be chosen at random. We would have a better chance then having politicians rule. Politicians are people obcessed with power not realizing that a ruler is the lowest of servants.
Howdy Y'all,
I noticed that the last post by Sparks was post number 666 on this thread, and Sparks number of posts were 777.
It was also at 10:10:10 AM, look at the time, damn...
Hmmmm....
Good Post Gheller J! All those plans of the NWO/Iluminati are true and have almost come to fruition. But, on the eve of their success, they will lose it all. They are SO arrogant, and self righteous. But they forgot something. There is a real GOD, and this is a vengeful GOD. I would hate to be them know. First, with their empire falling apart like it is. Then, despite their plan falling to pieces, they are going to be denied existence also. Man! that's a bad day. Yeah, glad I'm not them. This is good information though. It shows us the radical determination of the dark side. They stop at no means. They spend bizillions of dollars just to enslave and kill us. Yet we survive through faith and righteousness. Mmm, mmm, mmm, ain't that sumpthin'?
Glory and thanks be unto GOD!
Blessed Be...
Thanx Z.
The audacity of their plans way back in 1994 perplexes me!!
Looks like they were / are all set to go ahead with this plan!!
Check this:
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=epMeGr-wDc0&feature=related
What are so many hundreds of thousands of plastic coffins for?
Gh.J.
Gheller
If all that is true then we have a problem .
Each and every cell in a body has a purpose .
As long as the cells serve the purpose that they were created for the body does well .
If the cells " forget " their purpose and start doing what ever they choose. A condition we call cancer has begun.
If the cancer goes unchecked the body will eventually die .
If you are right and a few " cells " of the human race have that much power and technology then in my opinion the human race has terminal cancer and needs die or be eliminated before it spreads throughout the universe .
gary
Howdy Resonanceman,
You could also just exorcise the cancer, a NWO-ectomy?
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on October 09, 2008, 11:49:46 AM
There is a real GOD,
Z Monkey
I agree
I believe that their fatal error is in their belief that physical life rules .
In my opinion we are spiritual being playing a game we call physical existance .
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and this is a vengeful GOD.
I disagree
I don't think God punishes people for playing the game we came here to play .
I do think that there are spiritual laws and consequences for our actions though .
I believe that we can pretty much do as we choose .....but the " energy " of our choices comes back to us . so ......those that choose to hurt others eventuallly end up being hurt . ( karma )
I also believe that so called higher powers can be learned but safeguards are in place to prevent abuse .
I am not totally sure that this is true .......but an example of those safeguards is in what I have heard happend to the goverment remote viewing project .
Remote viewing was a great success for a while .
The accuracy of the information gained was very good .
Then they tried to use remote viewing against others ........and the accuracy dropped drastically .
That sounds like a bit of divine intervention to me .
If this project blue beam stuff is all true I would expect some more divine intervention soon .
:)
gary
Quote from: z.monkey on October 09, 2008, 12:13:57 PM
Howdy Resonanceman,
You could also just exorcise the cancer, a NWO-ectomy?
Blessed Be...
Z Monkey
I can't
The cancer might walking down the sidewalk right next to me ......and I would not know it .
For this cancer staying unknown is vital .
It is possible that some aliens on a really big ship could do a NWO-ectomy.
I truly hope that is what the 14th is about .
gary
Quote from: z.monkey on October 09, 2008, 11:49:46 AM[...] There is a real GOD, [...]
I think one could argue that, if god is so vastly different than religions want to make us believe, it could be more
accurate to say that there is no god than that there is a (particular) god. ;D [Not
correct though, in my opinion, and perhaps psychologically not so clever either at times.]
BTW (By the way), what does your acronym
GOD stand for? I've only heard of GODS (Guardians of Developing Societies).
Howdy Orbs,
Guardians Of Damascus (GOD). Despite religious differences, each religion is referring to the creator of The ALL. The highest creator, the source of the first source. I refer to it as Guardians Of Damascus because Damascus is the earliest known civilization known to modern man. So if that is where modern man started then the acronym would cover all of modern man, and not just those living in Damascus. Well, I guess we could call him GOMM (Guardians Of Modern Man), but that would just confuse everyone...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: orbs on October 09, 2008, 12:52:55 PM
I think one could argue that, if god is so vastly different than religions want to make us believe, it could be more accurate to say that there is no god than that there is a (particular) god. ;D [Not correct though, in my opinion, and perhaps psychologically not so clever either at times.]
BTW (By the way), what does you acronym GOD stand for? I've only heard of GODS (Guardian of Developing Societies).
Orbs
I believe that all religions are based on a few spiritual truths .
I am saying that what they are based on is true .
I also believe that ALL of our well know religions specifically exclude many spiritual truths .
I can't prove to you that God exists . I do feel that I have found proof for myself .
I am not going into the details. I have talked about it a little previously on this thread.
In short if you want proof of God study love ......because God is love.
If you want more God in your life ......be more loving .
gary
Quote from: resonanceman on October 09, 2008, 12:29:23 PM
I disagree
I don't think God punishes people for playing the game we came here to play .
I do think that there are spiritual laws and consequences for our actions though .
Howdy Resonanceman,
OK, maybe not "vengeful" how about "deliverer of Karma", through the Four Horsemen, of course...
Edit: And, yes giant alien spacecraft do perform NWO-ectomies...
Blessed Be...
Hehehe... Of course my argument was somewhat tongue-in-cheek...
Although, if one assumes that god is a hologram (of that everything, including us, is part of) then that throws off most people's left side of the brain, and while many religions could be interpreted to also (initially attempted to) convey this view, it is just so different to what most people have an image of.
[I'm referring to the following property of a hologram: If you have a glass plate that contains a hologram of an object and break it apart, then each part contains still the whole image of the object.]
Quote from: z.monkey on October 09, 2008, 01:17:27 PM
Howdy Resonanceman,
OK, maybe not "vengeful" how about "deliverer of Karma", through the Four Horsemen, of course...
I don't personally think the four horsemen are the way
I think the way is different for each . the possibility's are infinite . our karma catches up to us in ways we can't imagine .
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Edit: And, yes giant alien spacecraft do perform NWO-ectomies...
Blessed Be...
Do you think that there is any chance that we can talk them into getting started today ?
:)
gary
Howdy Resonanceman,
Quote from: resonanceman on October 09, 2008, 01:31:02 PM
Do you think that there is any chance that we can talk them into getting started today ?
Yes, I think the process is well underway...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: orbs on October 09, 2008, 01:26:47 PM
Hehehe... Of course my argument was somewhat tongue-in-cheek...
Although, if one assumes that god is a hologram (of that everything, including us, is part of) then that throws off most people's left side of the brain, and while many religions could be interpreted to also (initially attempted to) convey this view, it is just so different to what most people have an image of.
Maybe a way to explain my concept of God
If all that has been created in both the physical and spiritual realms is a hologram .
Then God is the energy and knowledge that created that hologram .
gary
Quote from: z.monkey on October 09, 2008, 01:34:04 PM
Howdy Resonanceman,
Yes, I think the process is well underway...
Blessed Be...
HHHMMmmm
So that means that the ship visiting is not like D day .......the start of the big fight .
It is more like graduation day . The day that humanity officially walks away from its childish ways .....and into a brave new world .
gary
Howdy Resonanceman,
The emancipation of the Earth is nigh. Sheldon Niddle, in his Sirian updates, has been documenting the progress of the Earth Allies for many years. In earnest, the Forces of Light have been actively working with the Earth for more than 50 years. It is only recently that they began to engage the Forces of Darkness directly. 10/14/2008 is when they will put the speculation of their existence to rest, permanently. The battle for Earth will not be over then, but this will be a turning of the tide in which the Forces of Darkness can not, and will not recover. All that is left after that point is to cleanup the horrendous mess that they made. Not an easy task, but one which we will perform to perfection given the help we have now...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on October 09, 2008, 01:58:21 PM
Howdy Resonanceman,
The emancipation of the Earth is nigh. Sheldon Niddle, in his Sirian updates, has been documenting the progress of the Earth Allies for many years. In earnest, the Forces of Light have been actively working with the Earth for more than 50 years. It is only recently that they began to engage the Forces of Darkness directly. 10/14/2008 is when they will put the speculation of their existence to rest, permanently. The battle for Earth will not be over then, but this will be a turning of the tide in which the Forces of Darkness can not, and will not recover. All that is left after that point is to cleanup the horrendous mess that they made.
My whole spiritual path has been about listening to the love within .
I have read some of the channelings here and I enjoyed other channelings many years ago.
In general My higher self seems to agree with what you have written here but I don't have any details about it .
Listening almost exclusivly to the love within gives me a much brighter picture than most people have .
an example the last sentence in your post .
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Not an easy task, but one which we will perform to perfection given the help we have now...
Although this is compleatly true I can't imagine it ever coming directly from the love within .
The love within is always focused on the love peace and joy .
Z monkey ........lets say you successfully found a practical way to make Electrinium and you successfully got that informaton out to the world .
You now have enough free energy for your own needs and the world is on the way to meeting its energy needs .
What would you do now ?
Would you retire?
Or would you start joyfully working at cleaning up some of that mess ?
Would anyone be able to stop you from helping with the cleanup?
I don't think so ............. because love will not be stopped .
gary
10/14/2008 there will be nothing like there was nothing in year 2000 :D :D and so on and so on :) question for apostals : what speech have you all prepared if aliens dont show up on date 10/14/2008? there will be talks about delays on aliens shedules or ship repair works or somth like that? :D :D
Quote from: gyvulys666 on October 09, 2008, 03:28:34 PM
10/14/2008 there will be nothing like there was nothing in year 2000 :D :D and so on and so on :) question for apostals : what speech have you all prepared if aliens dont show up on date 10/14/2008? there will be talks about delays on aliens shedules or ship repair works or somth like that? :D :D
No excuses from me .
I think they will show up .
If they don't I was wrong .
I have been wrong before and I will be wrong again .
Life will go on.
It will be interesting to see how ugly the skeptics choose to be if the ship don't show up .
I imagine some of them will put on a pretty good show . :)
gary
Quote from: resonanceman on October 09, 2008, 04:03:55 PM
No excuses from me .
I think they will show up .
If they don't I was wrong .
I have been wrong before and I will be wrong again .
Life will go on.
It will be interesting to see how ugly the skeptics choose to be if the ship don't show up .
I imagine some of them will put on a pretty good show . :)
gary
i resonate with that ;D
Quote from: gyvulys666 on October 09, 2008, 03:28:34 PM
10/14/2008 there will be nothing like there was nothing in year 2000 :D :D and so on and so on :) question for apostals : what speech have you all prepared if aliens dont show up on date 10/14/2008? there will be talks about delays on aliens shedules or ship repair works or somth like that? :D :D
Howdy gyvulys666,
The ships are here already, and I know it for sure, seen them. So if they choose not to show themselves to the whole world it's cool. The world is still in the dark and I am not. It would be nice for them to show up just for the doubters. Then then doubters can act like the Project Blue Book guys explaining that it was just a reflection on some smoke, or a mass hallucination, or a weather balloon. Eventually everyone will learn to accept the greater reality that space is not empty, and we are not alone in the universe...
Blessed Be...
Oddly so far this summer I have seen on three occasions UFO's or something...
3 times same orange light and each time I have seen them they were surrounded by planes...
I do not know if it is a flair type exercise that the military is doing or what but I will say...
I was visiting my sister and my mother on one occasion in broad daylight when I seen it on the second occasion...
Pay attention watch the sky I have been more and more often...
But I still don't insist that this is credible proof of an alien space craft...
All I know is that if they do show up they better bring their green cards..lol ::)
peace.
Quote from: infringer on October 09, 2008, 05:35:59 PM
But I still don't insist that this is credible proof of an alien space craft...
What did you think the orange craft was ?
Is it just me ......... I don't remember anyone describing as UFOs being orange in the past .
I remember metalic, flashing. bright white. changing colors,. redish, blueish ,
gary
Infringer has had three sightings?
Whoa!
Epic!
Hey Infringer,
Check this out...
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0808/bush.html
Sightings reported on overunity.com so far 10/09/2008
Z.Monkey 3
Infringer 3
Resonanceman 1 |
Anybody else?
Quote from: z.monkey on October 09, 2008, 04:17:17 PM
The world is still in the dark and I am not.
Blessed Be...
Oh my goodnes and hyperspatial love... you are cracking me up big time. Good to know that we are all blind but you are here to see the light for us.
Thanks, from the bottom of my space.
Here's some reading for next week.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails
When Prophecy Fails: A Social and Psychological Study of A Modern Group that Predicted the Destruction of the World is a 1956 classic book in social psychology by Leon Festinger, Henry Riecken, and Stanley Schachter about a UFO cult that believes the end of the world is at hand.
Quote from: resonanceman on October 09, 2008, 09:41:30 AM
Isn't the primary purpose of this website about sharing information ?
What if everyone here felt the need to ridicule every idea that was different than their ideas ?
If this was my website I would ban anyone that insisted on name calling or ridicule .
gary
The primary purpose of this site is CLEARLY stated in it's name: OVERUNITY. Your "beliefs" about the alien nonsense are CLEARLY not connected with THAT purpose.
So, why are you "believers" surprised when people, who aren't interested in your personalised topics, are unhappy with your intruding into the real purpose of this site? You are unhappy when we non-believers "intrude" in your pointless threads and express our own opinion. As someone said, if this is what you are interested in, go and put up your own forum elsewhere and discuss this and similar topics to your hearts' contents. And there are already plenty of sites where you can vent your ideas with those who share your state of mind.
Aliens and their religious love have nothing to do with overunity in magnetic motors research. Or efficient electrolysis. If they had anything to do with any of the REAL PURPOSES of this forum, aliens would already have communicated that to your "chanellers". And you, being good members of the OVERUNITY forum would have already informed your comrades of the forum about these wonderful gifts of alien love for humanity.
That is not the case.
Well I have to disagree.
There is a UFO sightings category on this forum.
This thread is in the news section ???
The excitement about this event does include overunity. Once these people are here we will be able to learn about their technologies, which in many cases use "free" energy or radiant energy. This technological and scientific opportunities are astounding. This is a quantum leap for science. If you would study the information that is available you would not be so against even the idea. Why do you think we are SO excited about it. This is the greatest thing that has ever happened to science. You need to be able to see that...
Just a single electrogravity engine alone would be more than enough reason to want this...
They have cloaked ships, right?
They have to be Romulans...
Yeah, Romulans...
Ok,
I'm a reasonable person. I've never had what I would consider a "supernatural" or "divine" experience in my nearly 40 years on this planet, other than witnessing the birth of my child. I have a personal belief system I follow, so I wouldn't classify myself as an atheist. "I want to believe" in alien beings, and I'd love to see UFO's on October 14th. That being said, If me and the rest of the world does not witness this great event on October 14, does that mean that these ships are somehow "technologically" cloaked from the minds of those who are unworthy or unready?
I can't imagine a cloaking technology that would hide ships based on a mental belief system... I suppose anything is possible... but come on....
This to me sounds allot like "faith".... where you have to believe. I just hope that this event isn't heralded around the world in the fashion of "the emperor's new cloths".... I would hope that true believers in this event would be honest with me, even in a private message to me, on that date, and tell me flat out, "Yes, I really see them, and I'm not just fooling myself" or "no, I don't see them, but I believe in their existence none the less"....
believers...be strait with me and the community here on October 14th.
I'd love to turn on the TV October 14th to newscast's worldwide of an event like this..... I'd also love to win the lottery.... but that's another story....
PwrDream
Quote from: z.monkey on October 09, 2008, 06:40:44 PM
Hey Infringer,
Check this out...
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0808/bush.html
Sightings reported on overunity.com so far 10/09/2008
Z.Monkey 3
Infringer 3
Resonanceman 1 |
Anybody else?
I just moved 7.2 Gigs of orbs pictures from the year 2007 into another place to give my hard drive some space- ;) .
I think my answer is yes, lots. All in IR.
On a few occasions, I have a picture of a bright thing that looks like a scarab bead from egypt, only it is bright white to the camera. The camera is set to take night time pics, and the shutter is open for as long as 2 seconds. In these pics, I can see orbs moving out of this "scarab" into the night and coming toward me. This is IR frequency and I was training my brain to pick up these things in my vision.
Last week I saw - in that IR vision in my sort of trained brain, - a very large blue globe. probably 80-100 ft in diameter over the fence in the field. Someone also took a picture of this very large thing. I take it to be a ship because of its size. But that is coming from my limited brain. I don't know what else to call it. (But it was not metal and it was IR not physical.)
remember James Gilliland at
http://eceti.org/ (http://eceti.org/)
He shows dogfights (well sort of one sided fights) of our military trying to shoot at the spaceships. The space ships just blink out and blink back in miles away.
But you can see
both kinds of ships side by side, and this helps clarify a lot.
I recommend before 10/14/08 everyone interested should visit http://eceti.org/ (http://eceti.org/) and study the difference.
Now, I have seen things that are trying desperately to look like clouds. I often laugh out loud, because they are very large spaceship shapes but in white dithered skypaint. Last week for 2 days there was a 5-tiered one of these over the mountain. It was there from one morning to the next evening. Pretty weird behavior for a cloud. However, if I were to have photographed it, we would all be calling it an interesting looking cloud. :o NOT.
jeanna
PS cuz we posted simultaneously;
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I'd love to turn on the TV October 14th to newscast's worldwide of an event like this
I am pretty sure there will be a lot of silence about this in the media. the place to look is going to be in personally filmed home movies.
Quote from: z.monkey on October 09, 2008, 08:20:41 PM
Well I have to disagree.
There is a UFO sightings category on this forum.
This thread is in the news section ???
The excitement about this event does include overunity. Once these people are here we will be able to learn about their technologies, which in many cases use "free" energy or radiant energy. This technological and scientific opportunities are astounding. This is a quantum leap for science. If you would study the information that is available you would not be so against even the idea. Why do you think we are SO excited about it. This is the greatest thing that has ever happened to science. You need to be able to see that...
Just a single electrogravity engine alone would be more than enough reason to want this...
Of course you do. Still, you know only to well that the News section is in the OVERUNITY forum, and that means that the news should be the news about overunity research and hopefully success one day.
Not about your "alliens" supposedly bringing the love for all.
And you still speak of things you invent when they suit you, yet have no idea what they are. Radiant energy is a term Dr. Nikola Tesla came up with to describe the different form of energy spikes he detected working with DC. Now, suddenly, to give credibility to your "alien" "theories" you indiscriminately use of the term that doesn't fit your environment. But you do not see that because you do not really know anything about the term itself.
For a 3600 KILOMETRES boat to fly on radiant energy what would the antennas able to receive necessary power have to be? And then there are the transformers to convert such energy into something useable.
Dr. Nikola Tesla clearly stated that it is the energy that has to be collected. A boat of yours would be travelling through the hyperspace, where by default the time and space do not exist for the traveller. The energy required for a possible hyperspace would by default have to be produced on board. Radiant energy cannot be collected while your alien boat travels through hyperspace.
Do you even begin to fathom the basic challenges you are putting on engineers of your 'alien" race?
That is where your lack of understanding of the themes you want to discuss shines through so strongly, one has to tell you to stop talking nonsense.
Energy is so powerfull that it places physical constraints on materials used for harnessing it. No technology can change that. The energy is the highest form that is and we can only convert it down to useable levels using physical materials as converters. And matter is governed by certain axioms that cannot be changed in a material world.
That is why they are called axioms.
So disagree as much as you want, you are still fantasising and are wrong just about everything you say because these axioms make your fantasies impossible.
And no amount of your repeating your "truths" will change that.
Here's a short extract from a recent channeling (http://crimsoncircle.com/channelseries/returning//03returning10-08.htm):
Quote from: Saint-GermainSpeaking of happenings, you’re going to see what many will term visitations â€" lights in the sky â€" very unusual patterns, the likes of which have not been seen before. These are not the aliens. These are the new consciousnesses of humanity coming in. They will be perceived as lights in the sky, not just at night, but during the day. They’ll be perceived as very interesting shifts, mostly as light energy, but as other types of energy as well. Some will interpret this through the mind and the eyes as alien beings, but it’s your New Energy, your divinity and the new consciousness of humanity coming in. Don’t go back to the old power ways of giving yourself just to the aliens.
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 09, 2008, 09:40:45 PMAnd matter is governed by certain axioms that cannot be changed in a material world.
That would assume that we know all of them, but I highly doubt that. And even then, your statement above cannot be proved (in the mathematical sense), and I believe it is false.
My seventeen year old son saw one night before last. And his friend's girlfriend said she saw one tonight.
I dont really believe this alien stuff.. However last week i saw 4 fighter jets escorting this funky looking object at REALLY high altitude. must have been 40k feet or so.. It looked like a silver V shaped object. It could have been a bomber escort or training exercise.. I have never seen anything like it before though, really strange.
Quote from: z.monkey on October 09, 2008, 06:40:44 PM
Hey Infringer,
Check this out...
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0808/bush.html
Sightings reported on overunity.com so far 10/09/2008
Z.Monkey 3
Infringer 3
Resonanceman 1 |
Anybody else?
Does each craft seen count as an event? If so, add me to the list.
Squegee - 45 at once - 1 circular badass in the center surrounded by about 44 tiny ones. Chihuahua, May 11, 2005. 15 minutes.
Squegee - 1 major big ass triangular one in Tamaulipas, Jan 3, 2008. 1 hour.
Squegee - Approx ~20~ craft in "play" over Candleridge subdivision of Ft Worth, TX - October 1994 (Strangely close to Joint Reserve Base, formerly known as Carswell AFB)
Peace all!
-Sq
Quote from: Captain Kirk on October 09, 2008, 08:22:04 PM
They have cloaked ships, right?
They have to be Romulans...
Yeah, Romulans...
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No, Klingons around Uranus.
Cant help myself there... ;)]
Well, Hans, Dr. Tesla, WizardofMars
Look at this:
Sightings:
Infringer 3 orange ships with fighter buggers
Jeanna 1 IR Ship quasivisible
Spark's Son 1 Ship
Spark's Son's Girlfriend 1 Ship
squegee69 3 Events, some with multiple ships
resonanceman 1 orange ship
z.monkey 3 ships
Is this coincidental that so many regulars have seen UFOs recently? There are ~17,000 members on overunity.com and this many people have seen something already. Yet we still have skeptics. That is 13 events so far from this little crowd.
I'm gonna tally these by events so a single sighting can be an event with one ship or multiple ships. Multiple events will be where you notice an event, then some time passes when all is quiet and then you notice another seemingly unrelated event.
OK, keep your eyes to the sky...
Hello, ive been through this whole topic in the last few days, and i must say it was quite a ride =O. Though I have some questions about the ascension thing. Will it happen in the 3day period of the big ship in our troposphere or later? If we choose to ascend will we be given lots o' knowledge somehow and thus wont need to go to school (that would be great =D)? Also until we get fe will we still use our old energy making ways? And will we have to leave every material thing behind? Cause i want my mp3player XD. And how can you talk to one of our star bro's? Cause everytime i read a channel, i feel like i wanna talk to all of 'em. Hope yall know the answers to these questions and can share =D . Also i too have seen a ufo 3 days ago. It was bright white and had a red line across it. It was flying WAY too fast to be a plane, produced no sound and no smoke thingy behind it like almost all planes do. Also, it looked sorta like the odyssey in Stargate SG 1 cept not really metallic. Greetings from Slovenia. ;D
Howdy Pizer,
Welcome to the Weird Science Club...
The event on 10/14/2008 is just a show. They are going to show us a big ship that's all.
It will take time to get to the ascension, perhaps more than 20 years.
Cumulative Sightings List (alphabetic):
Infringer 3 orange ships with fighter buggers
Jeanna 1 IR Ship quasivisible
Pizer 1 swift ship
resonanceman 1 orange ship
Spark's Son 1 Ship
Spark's Son's Girlfriend 1 Ship
squegee69 3 Events, some with multiple ships
z.monkey 3 ships
I have a feeling that I will be putting this list in a spreadsheet soon...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 09, 2008, 09:40:45 PM
And you still speak of things you invent when they suit you, yet have no idea what they are. Radiant energy is a term Dr. Nikola Tesla came up with to describe the different form of energy spikes he detected working with DC. Now, suddenly, to give credibility to your "alien" "theories" you indiscriminately use of the term that doesn't fit your environment. But you do not see that because you do not really know anything about the term itself.
Howdy Dr. Tesla,
Well, yeah I do know about inventing, I am an EE and a CID+.
My toys are on this forum, you should see what I do at work...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on October 10, 2008, 07:20:43 AM
The event on 10/14/2008 is just a show. They are going to show us a big ship that's all.
It will take time to get to the ascension, perhaps more than 20 years.
Well that was a downer...
Quote from: Pizer on October 10, 2008, 07:33:22 AM
Well that was a downer...
I am of the understanding that ascension to 4th density is before or on 2012 and fifth density a year after that. I am also of the understanding that the three days sighting is to be aware of them and then shortly after that we will be speaking and getting assistance from our brothers and sisters to help us ascend. I also think before we and the earth move densitites the earth needs to be restored to a healthy condition and the visitors will help fix this.
Quote from: shooter001 on October 10, 2008, 07:55:36 AM
I am of the understanding that ascension to 4th density is before or on 2012 and fifth density a year after that. I am also of the understanding that the three days sighting is to be aware of them and then shortly after that we will be speaking and getting assistance from our brothers and sisters to help us ascend. I also think before we and the earth move densitites the earth needs to be restored to a healthy condition and the visitors will help fix this.
Oh. K thx =D.
That dirty two timing tooth fairy, Wait till I get my hands on her ;D
Sorry about that last post Hans.
but seriously I have been looking for ufos since I was a child (I'm 42 now) and I have yet to see anything that remotely resembles outworld/otherworld technology. maybe I'm looking too hard. I sat outside last night on my lunch break (2am) and just stared at the sky. lots of stars out last night but nothing out of the ordinary. Maybe they are not interested in central ohio..lol
Peace
Quote from: orbs on October 09, 2008, 09:44:36 PM
Here's a short extract from a recent channeling (http://crimsoncircle.com/channelseries/returning//03returning10-08.htm):
Adamus Saint-Germain 4. October 2008 Last channeling/question and answer 12:45 to 18:15
http://www.crimsoncircle.com/audio/qa081004.ram (must have realplayer installed)
Okay .. might as well chime in here ... as I have been tracking the Oct. 14 event for a while.
Nickle989 - 2 UFO's seen last Saturday .. by more then 6 people in 2 different places but within the same city. (googled the sighting to see if anyone else seen it) I have not added mine to the public until now ... my family is still a little weirded out about it since they saw the 2nd one. That being said ... as the former head of LockHead Martin said ... there are two types of UFO's ours and their's.
Now since almost anyone can see the blue orb's at night with a IR camera and most 3CCD digital cameras are capable and many of these have been photographed by a vast majority, it is clear that we are not alone. That would be pretty small minded. Now I do know that the blue orb's are able to sense intention ... a positive intention or positive thought will keep them in view .. however a negative thought will completely dismiss them and you may never see one again.
When NASA showed the tether incident and the large IR creatures or crafts showed around it they were using a IR camera. People with good positive intentions can take IR film and wait for the intuition to kick in when and where to snap a photo ... you will capture the orb(s) in the photo.
This leads to the next thing ... take a scorpion, looks black right? ... now take a black light and shine it on it ... has a green glow to it. Many animals in the world can see in the IR spectrum and beyond.
Now with the ships or being that are out are living in another dimension or at a different frequency we would not see them with our naked eye or even our instruments unless they were tuned to the same frequency or harmonic of it. In the last 3-4 months it was announced that the possibility of making someone or something invisible is not far .. it may even be out now in the military world ... as the researchers were able to bend the complete spectrum of light around objects.
One of the greatest mysteries is gravity. It is life force that is within every living creature. Some call it Chi but there are other names for it within different cultures. Mainstream scientists cannot and will not even be able to explain gravity unless they can except the unseen and focus on good intent energy. ( people born as twins are a good example ... our thought's travel faster then the speed of light and have massive energy implications ... positivity in an office breeds it as does negativity breeds if that is what is dwelled on)
Have an open mind, there is nothing wrong to question though .. we have also all been given freewill.
Regards,
Nickle989
Adamus Saint-Germain 4. October 2008 Last channeling/question and answer 12:45 to 18:15
http://www.crimsoncircle.com/audio/qa081004_32.ram (must have realplayer installed)
Howdy nickle989,
Welcome the Weird Science Club...
Cumulative Sightings List (alphabetic):
Infringer 3 orange ships with fighter buggers
Jeanna 1 IR Ship quasivisible
nickle989 2 ships
Pizer 1 swift ship
resonanceman 1 orange ship
Spark's Son 1 Ship
Spark's Son's Girlfriend 1 Ship
squegee69 3 Events, some with multiple ships
z.monkey 3 ships
Total Events 16
IR u say? k, im gonna try that tonight ;D
Quote from: nickle989 on October 10, 2008, 09:32:40 AM
Okay .. might as well chime in here ... as I have been tracking the Oct. 14 event for a while.
Nickle989 - 2 UFO's seen last Saturday .. by more then 6 people in 2 different places but within the same city. (googled the sighting to see if anyone else seen it) I have not added mine to the public until now ... my family is still a little weirded out about it since they saw the 2nd one. That being said ... as the former head of LockHead Martin said ... there are two types of UFO's ours and their's.
Howdy Nickle989,
Until we can differentiate GFL from NWO ships we will have to lump them all into the same sightings category. This is something that we need to do is learn how to distinguish the GFL ships from the NWO ships. Anyone have any insights on that one?
Blessed Be...
Mexico city, Crop circles, Nasa UFO videos. Does anybody need anymore proof?
All the ancient / Starting Religions have these events in their documents.
When they show up: Shut up, stand up, and look up! That is prayer. Focusing entirely on one who is greater than oneself. There is no negotiation.
All else are the products of frail thinking. We have over 6000 years of instructions of truth. And today, the new age thinkers are making shit up like they have a monopoly on information! Sounds like Pride.
Look at this pattern, oh ye of feeble minds. Before mankind reached the western european areas they had faith actions based on sound belief. There was no new age thinking. Mankind then travels to a harsher and harsher environment. Look at Ireland, Scottland, and Russia. Look at the diets and the hygiene habits. Where do all the grand health debacles happened at? Tuberculousus, Bubonic plague, pneumonia, Flue epidemics? Western europe. All based on a horrible diet. These are the quick and deadlies. The slow deadlies are ignorance, group clustering, fear clustering.
Now from these last groups come new misinterpretations. Why? Bad diet equates to low brain capability. We have witches that stir up caldrons of troublesome brews. Idiots saw the tibetan singing bowls and didn't know their ass from a hole in the ground. Bubbling water? Ooh, mysterious. They wear magnetics for healing qualities and charms.Ooh, mysterious. They have no concept of electomagnitism. They wear glass beads on a string. Insulators on a wire for conduction. Anything that isn't understood they wear or worship. Dipshits! And if it can't be worn it is reinterpreted and touted as some new knowledge. Agnostic means without knowledge.
What caused the greatest expanse of mankind? Bread, tomatoes(vitamin C), dental hygiene, antibiotics, anesthesiology. It's been a long slow process. Once mankind left the comforts of the Mediteranian then troubles started. Look at the Spanish & Italian diets. Absolutely healthy and delicious. And now vegetarianism is something new with a new belief system? More idiots.
Read the history and look at the positives and the negatives. This pattern of idiot advancement is all too old on this ball of confusion.
But wait there's more. What ever retort is returned, you had better be based on sound logic, history, knowledge and grounded on Faith or you're gonna get ripped.
We have truths which are easily divided. Only the Truth is one that cannot be broken.
Watch the skies and anticipate. This won't be the only time this has happened. The naysayers are just waiting to throw in their devisive attitudes to seperate and cause the weak to stumble. Typical lazy attack. Don't fall.
--giantkiller. The Truth is the only glasses with which to see the spectacle of lies.
The Bible states: 'Every eye shall see and every knee shall bow'. What part of 'Every' is not understood?
Quote from: Pizer on October 10, 2008, 07:00:08 AM
I have some questions about the ascension thing. Will it happen in the 3day period of the big ship in our troposphere or later?
There is no set time for ascension . It happens to each person as they get there .
It is not a dramatic event , there are no lines on the ground to step over or bells and whistles to announce you have arrived.
It is similar in some ways to walking across an unmarked boarder between country's . The plants and animals seem the same . The same clouds are in the sky . At first glance everything looks the same . In fact most of it is the same, but some laws are different .
In general 3D is all about physical life . If you think you are only physical or that there is no God you are firmly in 3D
4D is kind of like a transition zone. It is an area where we gain more and more awareness of our higher selves .
5D is about learning to live FROM higher self . It doesn't sound like much . but the difference between being aware that you are a spiritual being that has a physical body at this moment is much different than believing you are that physical body . I am not talking about intellectual knowledge of being a spiritual being that knowledge starts back in 3D. I am talking about your actual awarness of self shifting into the spiritual .
As we go through each of the densitys our vibration rises .
Our awareness of the spiritual also rises .
Life is life .
Our lives move on accourding to our beliefs and our choices .
There is no time when we receive a fruit basket containing all the knowledge that we ever wanted . If we were to receive all knowledge all at once wouldn't life get kind of boring soon after that ?
You can greatly speed up the process of ascension or slow it down by how you choose to live and what you choose to believe .
It is my understanding that by the end of 6D we are always aware that God is the very center of who we are . Of course that is true on all levels but we have chosen to block that knowledge in the lower densitys .
My suggestion if you want to ascend faster ......look for love .....look for peace . look for joy.
focus on these things .
Do the things that bring you these feelings .
The best way to reach the feelings is to try to help others to feel them .
That is a basic law of love . What you give comes back to you multiplied.
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Also until we get fe will we still use our old energy making ways?
Free energy is still being suppressed by those profiting from the current energy monopolys
This suppression will end and we will also become more aware on deeper levels, this will help those working on free energy to reach the knowledge required more efficiently .
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And will we have to leave every material thing behind? Cause i want my mp3player XD. And how can you talk to one of our star bro's?
Someday you will need to let those things go .........but you will not be forced to let them go .
Most people are moving into the 4th or 5th density ...... all your physical stuff will remain the same . I am not sure what is the highest level that the physical world as we know it can exist but it is way up there...... no need to even think about that this lifetime.
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Cause everytime i read a channel, i feel like i wanna talk to all of 'em. Hope yall know the answers to these questions and can share =D . Also i too have seen a ufo 3 days ago. It was bright white and had a red line across it. It was flying WAY too fast to be a plane, produced no sound and no smoke thingy behind it like almost all planes do. Also, it looked sorta like the odyssey in Stargate SG 1 cept not really metallic. Greetings from Slovenia. ;D
In the higher realms commnication is instant and effortless .
That communication is still here in 3D the only thing is we block it . We don't believe in it.
The communication of spirit does not use words .
It is like a quiet wordless loving voice .
It is kind of like simply becoming aware of the answer.
I hope that this answers some of your questions
gary
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one thing about the different densitys . there are no fixed divisions . It is a judgment call .
It is kind of like looking at the color spectrum and trying to decide when blue becomes green. there are many shades of bluegreen in between .
This show is over.
The Mayan calendar, The Chinese history and documents of the ancients skies, Revelation.
Earth is closing as documented. You can cry all you want. 'There will be great nashing and weeping of tears.' That is documented also. Remember the people knocking at the closed door of the Ark in the rain? Patterns, it's all patterns.
Do you believe what you have been told or do you know what you have been taught?
--giantkiller. This is going to get fun.
heh thx gary that helped alot ;D
Howdy Giantkiller,
A am a little torn by your post. The channelers are basically psychic lay persons with little or no scientific knowledge. They can only relate what they experience on their level. They will always sound waked to long seasoned scientist as yourself. They are doing the best they can. What I like about them is the diverse sources of information about the same general topic.
So, obviously, you know of all the ancient accounts of star visitors and there is no doubt in your mind who and what they are. Also you know of their prophesied, and expected return. So I think I can call you a believer.
I struggle to find the highest truths. My mind is a crucible where I burn away the inconsistencies of incomplete theories. I consume large quantities of information, but in reality there is little divine truth in it. One must assimilate the information, evaluate the relevance and truths, then immediately discard that which is not useful. Frequently I find that I will read an entire book just to find one simple truth. The keys of true knowledge are distributed in this manner. One must consume a mass of bulk information just to distill the relatively simple truths. Then place these simple truths in the safe of their mind to later be assembled with the rest of the simple truths that they have found.
From our perspective this is the return of the Founders, our Creators. Heavenly Parents coming home from a long night out, just to see their house wrecked by the kids. These parents aren't going to get angry or punish us, but they will make us clean up the house...
Blessed Be...
Quoteâ€There will be great nashing and weeping of tears.â€
Despite the tears, I wouldn’t go hang my self yet, at least wait for giantkiller to do it first! :)
One thing that can not be left without a notice is the thing, that why these things do always happened in the US? If some intelligent beings come visit us earthlings, why would they always first contact a US citizen and then land somewhere in the US?
Is it because US just has such a beautiful landscape, Grand Canyon and shit. Maybe the US soil just is superior landing sight. Our soil here in Finland being mostly forests and swamps, not so good landing sight. I mean, it would not be a good thing if an alien came to earth and gets eaten by a polar bear, right?
Well, since the USA is teeming with Alien contacts and the air is teeming with extraterrestrial flying objects defying gravity, could someone with a contact ask them that why don’t they ever visit us people here in Finland? We are the little country next to Russia. Or is it because we are so close to Russia and nobody likes them?
Hope to hear from you Aliens soon,
sincerely yours
Sulake
Howdy Sulake,
On the contrary, there have been sightings all over the world during the last century. England, France, Germany, Russia, Mexico, and many others. You you are unaware of these you need to study up man...
The USA is the center of attention now because our government was infiltrated by the Illuminati NWO types and they used our nation to center their world wide Empire (lucky us). Naturally to take out this nefarious force you would want to focus your attention on the center of the problem.
The GFL is here for all people, and there will be a world wide effort on their part. They are here to help all of us, not just the good 'ole USA.
One of the first crashed UFOs that modern man reverse engineered crashed in the Black Forest (Germany) in 1936.
Billy Meier has had continuous UFO contacts in Switzerland for more than 30 years.
There are many, many other stories, just look for them...
Blessed Be...
Oh, I forgot. I have seen 2 with unaided eye.
I may remember more soon.
One was in a group. We were all sitting looking west. From the Northeast to the southwest this large (thumb sized) light streamed across the evening sky. I personally thought it was a meteor, but it was bigger than any other I had seen and the others in the group were convinced it was a ship.
The other was really cool and DEFINITELY a ship.
I looked up at the big dipper. In the space under the curve of the handle I suddenly noticed a star. I thought I didn't remember there being a bright star in that position, hmm... As I was wondering, it suddenly moved to the right then up and disappeared. That was 2 years ago.
jeanna
Quote from: z.monkey on October 10, 2008, 12:16:29 PM
Howdy Giantkiller,
A am a little torn by your post. The channelers are basically psychic lay persons with little or no scientific knowledge. They can only relate what they experience on their level. They will always sound waked to long seasoned scientist as yourself. They are doing the best they can. What I like about them is the diverse sources of information about the same general topic.
So, obviously, you know of all the ancient accounts of star visitors and there is no doubt in your mind who and what they are. Also you know of their prophesied, and expected return. So I think I can call you a believer.
I struggle to find the highest truths. My mind is a crucible where I burn away the inconsistencies of incomplete theories. I consume large quantities of information, but in reality there is little divine truth in it. One must assimilate the information, evaluate the relevance and truths, then immediately discard that which is not useful. Frequently I find that I will read an entire book just to find one simple truth. The keys of true knowledge are distributed in this manner. One must consume a mass of bulk information just to distill the relatively simple truths. Then place these simple truths in the safe of their mind to later be assembled with the rest of the simple truths that they have found.
From our perspective this is the return of the Founders, our Creators. Heavenly Parents coming home from a long night out, just to see their house wrecked by the kids. These parents aren't going to get angry or punish us, but they will make us clean up the house...
Blessed Be...
Alot of info equates to 'Itchy ears' for all of us.
The Heavenly parents have always been here. They never left. It is in the ancient texts of the respective Faiths.
I have already hung my old self on the cross.
How can anyone argue: http://ufo.whipnet.org/creation/ufo.bible/ezekiel.html
I was a very strong believer before until I heard http://www.powerset.com/explore/semhtml/Stanton_T._Friedman speak those immortal words: 'Maybe they don't like our brand of friendship'. Even more things clicked. Look at our history!. If you go to the zoo do you jump in with lions, tigers or bears? Oh my! Do you take one home? If you go into the field to test one, don't the procedures look just like an abduction? LOL. Has any alien abduction been pleasant?
I truly doubt anyone here has an alternative feel good answer to these. Negative? Nope. This is who we are. This is what we have been through and put ourselves through. The are 3 places in our existance, Planetary cataclysms, social cataclysms, Diety cataclysmns. All ancient peoples all have the Flood documented as far back as 6k years. Hows that for Truth?
I truly hope many of you will be on the in side instead of in the rain. If it sounds good, your listening to the wrong side. It is documented to not worry or take hold of what is come to pass. If you had your own antigravity ship or passage on one would you need any earthly belongings? I'd be gone so far and fast...
--giantkiller.
Cumulative Sightings List (alphabetic):
Infringer 3 orange ships with fighter buggers
Jeanna 3 (1 IR Ship quasivisible, 2 visible ships)
nickle989 2 ships
Pizer 1 swift ship
resonanceman 1 orange ship
Spark's Son 1 Ship
Spark's Son's Girlfriend 1 Ship
squegee69 3 Events, some with multiple ships
z.monkey 3 ships
Total Events 18
Quote from: Captain Kirk on October 09, 2008, 08:22:04 PM
They have cloaked ships, right?
They have to be Romulans...
Yeah, Romulans...
Quote from: hakware on October 10, 2008, 01:20:29 AM
No, Klingons around Uranus.
Cant help myself there... ;)
Klingons have cloaked ships too, ya know...
We are physically just smart monkeys. And our shepards are getting a little upset with how we are wrecking the cage. They let us have a little rope and the first thing we do is wrap it around a tree and get stuck. There's still a bounty of love in us but you could never tell from the actions of the monkeys who send young men to die for some stupid religious or political insanity. The noninvolvement of greater powers is long overdue if you ask me. Almost to the point of negligence. New world order fears. Bring it on cause the old world insane chaos has been disfunctional for thousands of years. Face it we are no more advanced than a pack of wolves.
Throw an active cell phone in with a bunch chimpanzees. Pretty obvious.
Land a space ship amongst humans. Pretty obvious.
Only, the difference between humans and chimps is we pontificate over made up shit. A side gift of ignorant intelligence.
I have heard the argument that Revelation could not possibly be true, being as it is someone telling the future. Well, statistically speaking when you have a given population with a limited set of resources compared to a certain level of free will with an applied level of measurable intelligence when the environment gets too limited then all hell breaks loose. I think they know the outcome. We hide behind false leaders / purposes. We kill our young. We rape and pillage solving our own needs in taking from others. The great religions point out different levels of purposefulness. Don't touch it! Don't take it! Don't break it! But be peaceful with respect to all peoples The real shock occurs when our eyes are open about our previous choices based on possesional needs. Strip away reality and the unneccessary response ends.
--giantkiller. And even these statements are prideful. :D
Quote from: z.monkey on October 10, 2008, 06:59:25 AM
Well, Hans, Dr. Tesla, WizardofMars
Look at this:
Sightings:
Infringer 3 orange ships with fighter buggers
Jeanna 1 IR Ship quasivisible
Spark's Son 1 Ship
Spark's Son's Girlfriend 1 Ship
squegee69 3 Events, some with multiple ships
resonanceman 1 orange ship
z.monkey 3 ships
Photographic evidence Zero
Quote from: z.monkey on October 10, 2008, 12:57:58 PM
Billy Meier has had continuous UFO contacts in Switzerland for more than 30 years.
Billy Meier is an out and out fraud, and everyone knows it. It's been documented many times that he took his dinosaur and alien photo's from TV and artwork of the time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Meier#Criticism_and_controversy
Still, if you believe in a wacky conspiracy theory like NESARA then it doesn't surprise me you'd believe in Meier.
Tell me, do you believe George Adamski? If not, why not? Meier is no more credible than Adamski.
Hundreds of thousands of eye witnesses:
Mexico city, Crop circles, Nasa UFO videos. Does anybody need anymore proof?
All the ancient / Starting Religions have these events in their documents.
Modern man only believes modern man. Why not? It's 'New and improved! Stays fresh and no unsightly odors. Cleans up in a jiffy and never, never needs ironing'.
And mankind falls do to his history being rewritten because his foundations are built on sand.
The spooky thing is the Bible is rife with belaboring of easily, repeatedly made mistakes. Ouch!
--giantkiller.
dunno if anyone has posted this be4 but its quite intriguing: http://www.ufodigest.com/news/1008/poles.html
Well,
it won't be long now before we find out just who is talking shit here.
Hans von Lieven
Spock: They did it to themselves, sir...
Kirk: So the elation of the believers revelry has invoked an equal and opposite reaction in the inverse direction? That is logical, Mr. Spock...
Spock: Precisely Sir!
ready for them... just remember, attitude is everything
I aint claiming nothing about pyrimid beliefs or outrageous claims of peopel who like to touch there self higher or whatever...
I aint claiming that I seen outer space ships.
I aint claiming that I believe all this channeling stuff...
All that I claim is odd occurances over the stretch of the summer namely in the last 2 months I have seen these orange lights.
2 of them at night
1 during the day with two other witnesses
1 the first occurance in my car driving passed it off as a possible reflection on my windshield at this time there were 3 orange lights at dusk that disappeard behind the clouds with a company of 5 or 6 planes in close proximity.
2. The second occasion standing on my sisters front porch my sister brought it to my attention then my mother confirmed what we saw was there and this was during daylight hours the same tone of orange but a little less distinct being light and mid day. So now at least I know I was not seeing things or had something in my eye.
3. Was 2 days ago my truck broke down and we were out in the local rest area where it broke down with some friends and they were looking my way and I was looking twords them I was speechless kinda when I seen it again because there were again 3 planes around it at this time it was the beginning of dusk and by the time I was about to say something it appeard as if it moved a little then faded into nothing as the planes still remained.
What is this?
I wish I could say for 100% but I cannot.
I can only assume the scientific possibilty that it is simply military excercise done seeing as there is two miltary bases in close proximity and there is a test bombing field somewhere around here.
I do know they were no where in the vacinity of the bombing field at the time finding it odd they would risk debris falling onto traffic or homes but who knows for sure.
I cant think of anything else other then top secret scram jet technology testing.
Could it be aliens I suppose it could but I assume that it is not!
There is no solid proof of this being alien in origin ...
This is my full account of what was witnessed I do not choose to read into this and I do not want anyone else to read into it further so please do not.
A mention though I feel should be made for a scientific view in hopes of recieving feedback of what they may be.
However if I do see without a doubt what I will know is an alien craft on the 14th as proposed I would be more likely to assume it is alien technology.
-infringer-
none of US have any proof of anything. This is simply a list of unexplained and abnormal phenomena.
Cumulative UFO Sightings List (alphabetic):
Infringer 3 Orange unidentified flying objects with fighter buggers
Jeanna 3 Ships (1 IR-quasivisible, 2 visible)
Nickle989 2 Ships
Pizer 1 Swift ship
Resonanceman 1 Orange ship
Spark's Son 1 Ship
Spark's Son's Girlfriend 1 Ship
Squegee69 3 Events, some with multiple ships
Z.Monkey 1 Ship 3 times
Total Events 18
Quote from: wizardofmars on October 10, 2008, 05:22:22 PMBilly Meier is an out and out fraud, and everyone knows it.
I'm assuming this is only based on
nth-hand knowledge (for
n > 1). I'm also pretty sure that some of his (ex-)"supporters" are not as sincere as they claim to be (this is mostly based on my comparing of accounts in German and English, the former ones mostly published by Meier himself). I'm not saying that some of the stories don't need a stretch of imagination, but some of the portrayal of him in the US is simply not accurate by any means.
I don't believe anyone has been able duplicate Meier's photo's with today's technology much less his poorly functioning camera of that era.
That says a lot.
Regards...
URGENT WARNING..........
ALIENS ARE COMING TO EARTH ON TUESDAY AND THEIR MISSION IS TO ABDUCT ALL GOOD LOOKING AND SEXY PEOPLE.
DON’T WORRY, YOU ARE SAFE! I'M JUST POSTING YOU TO SAY GOODBYE!! ;D ;D ;D
You all take some good photos next time you see one of these ships and post here! ;D
Jason
2 interesting videos.
I think this guy is nuttier than squirrel turds but its interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLFdGEOftMo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLFdGEOftMo)
This one was not far from where i live, it was on the local news all over here. "gas station ghost"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaYnbZmsq0k
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 10, 2008, 08:36:04 PM
I don't believe anyone has been able duplicate Meier's photo's with today's technology much less his poorly functioning camera of that era.
That says a lot.
Regards...
Meier is a contemporary. Most of his photos were from around the fifties to now. Cameras in the fifties were every inch as good as cameras produced today. A 1950's Leica for instance will match anything. He had first class gear. Poorly functioning camera of that era - my arse.
Incidentally, this photo of his was taken in 1975
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fthumb%2Fa%2Fae%2FBill_meier_ufo_2.jpg%2F180px-Bill_meier_ufo_2.jpg&hash=ca4b170d434fdf65990af022825dbf2d1bac7a76)
Hans von Lieven
People you need to see this video!!
It'll be a huge huge eye opener for everyone as were are a part of this whole plan!!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912
Gh.J.
I've always believed Aliens exist and always will, but Hey! ...if this "showing" doesnt happen this month then so be it!
Aliens (good or bad) are around us period........whatz changed? 8)
According to the report I read...Meier's camera did NOT function properly...and I actually took the time to look into this.
And my statement still stands...'no one has been able to duplicate his photo's'.
Notwithstanding the presentation of anyone's arse as an argument. :)
Regards...
Blossom Goodchild Channel UPDATE!
14. (Oct 11th) Well, it’s almost time my friends and the world waits it seems, for this next communication with you. It still seems so unreal … and I, out of everyone should feel the reality should I not? Yet I can’t. Thousands and thousands know now of your coming (whether they believe you or not) and yet , even for those of us that are prepared , we simply do not know what to assume or visualise. Its like waiting to have a baby, except at least with that you know what to expect … a baby!!! … with you guys, we just don’t know what you are going to surprise us with. And I guess too, there are so many people that still don’t know about it and are carrying on talking about next week as if it’s just another week. It’s been a LLLLOOOONNNGGG LLLOOONNNGGG week down here… whats cooking up there?
You would be surprised!
No doubt!
Indeed we are in position and generally taking care of rescourses. May we say that in preparation we have underestimated the LOVE and anticipation that is being sent to us. Your word is ‘phenominal’ is it not? We choose to say that we shall become a phenominal phenonima! It has indeed been a long period of waiting for us also … eons of your time. Yet we are aware of the controversy that is taking place and of the complete sham that is overshadowing your beloved planet. Be of great aprehension regarding what the media shall be asked to disclose in the beginning days. We are secure in the knowledge that there are those in place on your earth that are ready to begin their dreams. They shall know exactly what to do . They have been awaitng their entire lives to be of service in this way. We wish all souls to understand this. We have not suddennly just decided to drop in for a cup of tea unannounced. This is why we asked you Blossom, to release our message to the world as you did. It was of upmost importance that your planet was aware in advance of our coming. Otherwise, the shock may have been too great. Also it has allowed souls to prepare for this historic encounter.
Dear souls of planet earth … let it be known that we have longed for this unity. Do you see how this shall change the darkness within your stratosphere into the Golden Race? This is how you shall become known.
The Golden Race.
This coming into your skies is the beginning of The New Dawn … in to The New World that has been prophesied in your past days.
Allow your hearts and minds … allow your very being to ascend into a vibration that resonates with the TRUTH of your soul.
WE BRING WITH US A NEW WAY. A NEW UNDERSTANDING.
Until you experience it for yourselves you will not be able to accept that of which we speak. Yet we say to you, when you accept it, you shall never again feel the darker times that have swamped the very air in which you have had to breathe. There shall be freshness within all things. Your days will ‘feel’ different. Your purpose shall be introduced to the self and each shall desire to go about their future days in a very different way from the way you are displaying now.
This is why we say to you ‘BE OF JOY! The minute your eyes look upon the wonderous sight that we offer, the soul shall remember who it is. How can it be anything other than immense joy? Share your knowledge with those in despair. They simply are in a place of deep sleep. Help them to awake with tender words and actions, for indeed they shall be in great need.
I think everyone is expecting the biggest part of the jigsaw … (i.e., rainbows, diamonds etc) after all, aren’t there only two pieces left? Today and tomorrow’s communication...?
In Truth the puzzle is almost complete. It leaves only the one space for it to show the fullness of itself … and we shall fill that space when we appear in your skies on the 14th day of the 10th month in the year 2008. Whereby we shall prove once and for all that we come in PEACE and LOVE.
And there shall be no one more relieved than I and that’s a fact !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dearest soul …
Oh oh! I can feel the tears coming straight away … yes? I can sort of feel what you are about to say and feel a bit reluctant from the ‘ego’ point of view, and yet … how can I refuse you at this juncture ?
On behalf of The Federation Of Light we thank you for your part in this procedure. We smile with your humour for we know we could not have done it without you.
Or I, without you … clearly! You KNOW you are most welcome on one level, but I am sure you know it’s been a ride that I wouldn’t necessarily put my hand up for again!! I look out the window and the world keeps turning. How will it be when I look out this same window next week?
It will be that you see a beauty that you have not seen before as you look through the eyes of one who has experienced and been an integral part of the way forward into the LIGHT OF LOVE … as those from planet earth join us … The Federation Of Light … on our journey home.
Nicely said my friends. We welcome you with open arms. Many, many of us. I think I speak for perhaps millions when I say THANKYOU for the LOVE you have shown us, and …
BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Mike Quinsey's Newest Channelling through SaLuSa
The Channelling Reads:
SaLuSa through Mike Quinsey'
10-October-2008
These are testing times with many problems thrown at you on a physical level, and also testing of your faith and understanding in connection with your Space friends, and their announcement of intent to show themselves to prove their existence beyond doubt. The weeks have passed by and the Sighting looms ever nearer, and it has as expected provoked much interest and discussion. In the depths of world chaos there is hope extended by us, and anyone who has followed our messages will be aware of the nature of our presence. We come to release you from the conditions that have subjected you to so much turmoil, and have reduced your lives to being little less than slaves to your Government's agenda of global control.
This is one time in your history when you shall emerge victorious, unlike earlier cycles when you have been virtually destroyed through the actions of the dark forces. This one was always projected as having the full potential for a successful conclusion, and to ensure such an outcome has been carefully directed and assisted by our Federation. It has required much cooperation from you who are the Lightworkers, and your commitment to establishing the Light upon Earth. In this you have been remarkably successful, having carried Mankind through several periods of uncertainty over the last century. Many souls have ventured to Earth during this time to specifically lift you up, and out of the darkness have achieved the establishment of a grid of Light. It is your link between Earth and the immediate levels above you, and as you attract the Light so it enforces the power of the grid to create many centers within it.
The Galactic Federation have made clear what you can expect with their coming to Earth, and they offer great help having foreseen the mass destruction that the Illuminati planned for your demise. Very few of you have a realization of how far their plans extended, and the degree to which they had been advanced. They had success in their grasp, but have had it snatched from them through joint activities with our allies. There is no "quick fix" and even with our knowledge and technology, it will take some time to establish the foundation for a new way of life. However, we are very near to being able to go ahead with First Contact, and that is the key to everything else that is necessary to get the changes underway.
It is nearing the time when the Light will have been established upon Earth, and it will project you into a new era of joy and happiness. It will continue during the restoration of Earth and take you on to Ascension, when you will exist in absolute bliss and become free from all of the problems that beset you now. Duality is an experience and no more, and it was never intended to become your permanent way of life. It is cyclic like everything else and now draws to its conclusion having served its purpose. Your natural state is being at one with All That Is, living in complete harmony and happiness without the burden of having to deal with the attention of the dark forces. They too are gaining experience from their activities, and act out their roles assigned to them just the same as yours.
All around you death, destruction and decay are evident, but understand that absolutely nothing is permanently destroyed as it simply changes its level of vibration. All is energy and creation is by thought, and as you lift yourselves up your powers will increase to levels of instant creation. You are far from being helpless Beings tossed around in the sea of physicality, as you have all of the potential offered by the higher levels of vibration. Ascension will place you in the fifth dimension or higher, which is far removed from the limiting vibrations you are now in. Yet, it is you over millennia of time that have created what you see all around you today. It is not exactly by choice, but your dark thoughts and deeds have overshadowed the Light. Now you can take credit for having lifted yourselves up sufficiently to manifest the higher vibrations, and they are opening the path to Ascension.
Meantime you can help those around you, by not entering into the fearful consequences of the financial problems that abound at present. You have the benefit of seeing further ahead than those who are uninformed or unaware of the Great Light, and it is emerging from the darkness and creating the opportunity for a complete turn around in the direction of your lives. Keep that vision in your sights at all times, because it is about manifest and once it does you will be under no illusion as to what it means. Changes for the good of all are descending upon you in the form of the Galactic Federation, and we await the initial response to the "Sighting" from which we can gauge your readiness for the next stages. Know for certainty we will come very soon, as it must be realized that time is becoming short for the plan to take you to the end times.
We do not experience concern in the way you do, as we have the ability to adjust to any changes quite easily and no challenge is beyond us. It is simply that our technological superiority lends itself quite readily to any situation. However, we need to take the present opportunity that offers us the chance to implement the Divine Plan for you and your evolution. Earth is a beautiful world that will leave you with many memories, but these will be surpassed once you see the restoration completed. Truly the Garden of Eden will rise from the ashes of many centuries of neglect and destruction. It will be befitting of the new Man that will emerge to accompany Earth on its Ascension pathway.
I am SaLuSa from Sirius and can tell you from my experience, that your Earth is one of the most beautiful planets I have ever seen. It was created for you by bringing the flowers and fauna from other planets, so that you could experience some of the wonders of the Universe. Can you comprehend the love of the Beings of Light who were responsible, and the great love of the Creator who conceived of the plan. New Universes are being created all of the time, and as a Cosmic Being your opportunity to explore these unlimited expanses is infinite. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain from the changes that are commencing on Earth. Think positively and live your life in appreciation of what is being given to you, and give love to all others on this journey with you. Make it a happy and joyous time that you share with them.
Thank you SaLuSa.
Mike Quinsey.
Quote from: Gheller J on October 09, 2008, 10:50:46 AM
Well well well...dis article was published in 1994 n posted on d following link in 2005! looks eerily similar to what is happening and what could happen!!
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebeam25jul05.shtml
There are a lot of people who believe that the Republicans now believe that they will lose the
Presidential Election, and those behind them are looking for an opportunity to create martial law
and a state of emergency.
They are creating exactly this, and then the election will be cancelled.
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=hbONIQfQmDU&NR=1
Philip Schneider claimed to be an ex-government structural engineer who was involved in building underground military bases around the United States , and to be one of only three people to survive an incident that occurred in 1979 between Grey aliens and U.S. military forces at the Dulce underground base .
For the last two years of his life, Schneider gave lectures about government cover-ups, black budgets, and UFOs. Schneider was never able or willing to prove his allegations (e.g. showing the entrance to Dulce Base). His claims received little mainstream notice, but caused quite a buzz in UFO enthusiast circles.
Schneider was found dead in his apartment on January 17 1996 Some suggest Schneider was murdered .
For more info about paranormal and UFO/alien related subjects go here: aliensmajestic.com/forum
I have a feeling a lot of you are going to be disappointed as nothing is going to happen on the 14th. Good Sci-Fi though.. you guys could make some good movies!
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 11, 2008, 07:09:23 AM.....And my statement still stands...'no one has been able to duplicate his photo's'.....
Quite a lot of analysis has been done on his photos, and all suggested fraud - the 'cake' parked in front of the house has the perspective all wrong, the one with the car has suspicious 'light' artifacts etc. Another 'ship' has the millimeter-perfect contours of one of the lids from barrels found in Billy's shed! The only thing more appalling was Billy own attempt at explaining this identical resemblance away - well worth reading though! :) And why are most of his ships making love to trees - could it be that model ships use them for support. And yes, there were also model ships found by a reporter at Billy's place - Billy's excuse that time was that he had made them for his kids... Finally there's Billy's photos from the 'past', the most glaring example of outright fraud being the dino-bird one - simply a snapshot of an illustration from a book on dinosaurs...
The only thing more bizarre than Billy are his legions of followers, who either do not know, or do not want to know, about the damning evidence of fraud, or simply shrug off said-info as disinformation, content to carry on blindly believing...
The odds of us being the only critters to figure out how to start a fire are astronomical. The odds that the only form of intelligence that exists is locked into dna coding and passed on from one dna laden bag of water to the next is even a bigger #. I seriously doubt any politically controlled nation on Earth given the ability to travel to another galaxy to uplift the life standard of a planet there would bother. They would be too busy exploiting planets round here so they could make bigger guns to get more power gold and ass.
Someone previously provided a link to back up that dino tale...which I haven't heard by the way.
Anyway, no dino story on the link given.
Apparently there were also witnesses to some of the Meier sightings...its hard for me to discount live accounts...that is what gave Meier credibility in my eyes.
Regards...
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 10, 2008, 06:12:51 PM
Well,
it won't be long now before we find out just who is talking shit here.
Hans von Lieven
I wish that were true but z-monkey already has that covered. If you arn't open to the experience then you'll be out of luck they won't be waisting thier time on nonbelievers. Some how we just wont se that 2000 mile craft right in front of us. Rats. the truth is out there just not for us close minded folks
Quote from: sparks on October 11, 2008, 03:46:55 PM
The odds of us being the only critters to figure out how to start a fire are astronomical. The odds that the only form of intelligence that exists is locked into dna coding and passed on from one dna laden bag of water to the next is even a bigger #. I seriously doubt any politically controlled nation on Earth given the ability to travel to another galaxy to uplift the life standard of a planet there would bother. They would be too busy exploiting planets round here so they could make bigger guns to get more power gold and ass.
Good point sparks, I have contemplated the thought that humans were just genetically engineered from pigs (eat anything), monkeys (dextrous and earthlike form) and a bit of alien (good brain) to do a job for the aliens. That job is to mine all the ores out of the planet and also terraform the planet by burning all the trapped hydrocarbons so the atmosphere becomes more CO2 rich again (like before the big meteor buried all the trees) and thus can sustain the aliens comfortably. If they have time travel tech then they might of only kicked us going last week in their time! :D
Yucca.
Quote from: Sprocket on October 11, 2008, 03:34:42 PM[...] damning evidence of fraud, [...]
Let's be clear here: This doesn't constitute a
proof. As much as, for example, James Randi or MythBusters may have debunked false claims, they often use incorrect logic. Just because you can find a certain way to do things doesn't automatically invalidate another. Especially if you don't understand how that other way is supposed to work. Even if you are in the beginning sincere in uncovering frauds, after a while you may have either so much investment you want to recover or reputation to lose that your objectivity may get tainted, especially if it's coupled with the media. If they are in this business, they should present
proof when accusing others. [At least that was considered to be the correct way in the past.]
People who have never lived in another culture often cannot see how they can be strongly manipulated by
withholding evidence, not to mention that they cannot understand that people from other cultures may have different values (and might look naïve or otherwise stupid or ruthless or whatever) from their vantage point. You can substitute
culture with social class, language, profession, etc.
O my goodness, I lost track of the date. I only have a few days to make massive amounts of kool-aid. Anyone know where I can get some potassium cyanide?
Quote from: bluedemon on October 11, 2008, 04:36:01 PMO my goodness, I lost track of the date.
Oh, another deliberate hit-and-run... ::)
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 10, 2008, 06:12:51 PM
Well,
it won't be long now before we find out just who is talking shit here.
Hans von Lieven
;D
Emotional thread... I mean, really...
Should I lough or should I cry...?
Naah, they're all just joking, surely.... After all, it's the 21st century!
:-\
Quote from: bluedemon on October 11, 2008, 04:36:01 PM
O my goodness, I lost track of the date. I only have a few days to make massive amounts of kool-aid. Anyone know where I can get some potassium cyanide?
Any electroplating shop has bags full of the stuff.
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: z.monkey on October 10, 2008, 11:00:57 AM
Howdy Nickle989,
Until we can differentiate GFL from NWO ships we will have to lump them all into the same sightings category. This is something that we need to do is learn how to distinguish the GFL ships from the NWO ships. Anyone have any insights on that one?
Blessed Be...
I will post this address again just in case it is hard to find. I do think it is worth a look. James points out a few of the differences as you are looking.
http://www.eceti.org/ (http://www.eceti.org/) it stands for Enlightened Contact with ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence
jeanna
I guess that the GFL said they would have force fields. So if you can shoot one down it must be the NWO. LMAO ;D
Hello,
you dont have to wait until 14 th of october :
http://www.siriusufo.org/tr/?fx=sayfa_ac&url=html/english/kumburgaz_2008.asp (http://www.siriusufo.org/tr/?fx=sayfa_ac&url=html/english/kumburgaz_2008.asp)
Kator
Quote from: orbs on October 11, 2008, 04:31:30 PM
Let's be clear here: This doesn't constitute a proof.....
If one was unbiased and fully aware of the contrary evidence available regarding Billy's claims, they would arrive at the conclusion that most of his claims of 'proof' are nothing of the sort - even Billy himself has admitted that some of the photos were 'suspect' - but only after the fact, and only when they were pointed out by others as such - and then blaming MIB's for the forgeries, even though the photos were in some cases in the public domain for decades...
Anyway, no amount of 'proof' of deception is enough for those who have turned this into a religion...
Quote from: Sprocket on October 11, 2008, 11:26:18 PMAnyway, no amount of 'proof' of deception is enough for those who have turned this into a religion...
Most likely true â€" on
either side (I've been at one of James Randi's presentations).
Last Blossom Goodchild update berfore 14th october 2008
15. So here I sit, feeling very odd as I am aware this is my last communication with you before you arrive and after that ….? Who knows! How ON EARTH can we know what changes this appearance will bring about? Yet I know in my heart that this event HAS to take place for the good of all mankind. For at heart, mankind is good, mankind is LOVE and I feel it is through you that we shall be able to remember this. So then … I’m sure you have your speech prepared … go right ahead…
With LOVE HUMILITY AND GRACE we offer you these words. There as those on your planet who welcome us in Loving open arms, and yet we are very much aware that there are those who are living in great trepidation of this day that is very soon to be a marked event in the history of your race. We have, through you Blossom, spread words of LOVE and acceptance of our being, and in a certain sense there is little more to say.
May your soul's TRUTH of itself guide each and everyone of you through this most exciting time.
I’ve got to be honest when I say that for me personally I have sort of lost sight of the joy a little bit. The pressure for me regarding this day is incomparable (is there such a word?). And yet … my soul reaches out in KNOWING that when you show yourself there shall be a change on this planet forever and we will KNOW not only that you come in LOVE for I feel that there shall be no denying of this ... although I don’t know what form that will take ... but I also KNOW that within each one of us, if we allow ourselves to soak in the time that we have with you, we shall be transformed into a higher part of ourselves , and yet still be in the human form. You realize of course the wait is simply agonizing?
Yet the wait is worth waiting for like all things that are of LOVE. The day that has been arranged has brought your world together again, and yet it has split it apart. In our calculations we are TRUSTING our knowledge through data collected and believe that a unity shall transpire that shall allow a transformation to occur that will in time, rid your world of a darkness that exists there through avarice and greed.
AWAKE DEAR ONES INTO THE LIGHT OF YOURSELVES.
We come to guide you through and many on your planet are in position to bring forth assistance wherever it is needed.
It’s just so hard to know what to expect. I smile for I know you so well … your answer to that is indeed as I thought ...
Expect the unexpected!
Friends … it is in such a sweet short while that all that we have said shall be revealed to you in its Truth. Many who fear us will automatically let go of that fear when they see directly for themselves what they see. Please be uplifted. This shall add to the vibration as we begin our descent into your skies.
WHOAH! WOAH! WOAH!! As I wrote that I thought I would burst! Trying to contain myself. I have come to learn that is what we need to rely on … our ‘feeling’ about words. For the mind can deceive and cause all sorts of doubts. But our ‘feelings’ can only tell us their Truth.
And you question why we chose you oh wise one?
Shucks!!
KNOW OF THIS … We shall remain for as long as we deem it necessary. We recognize that there shall be disruptive forces claiming falsities regarding the TRUTH of who we are. We say to you most clearly that we will not leave until it is understood that we are not of your earths imagination and we are here to show you a new way of understanding the LOVE that you are. We will not abort our mission under any circumstances. We have worked too hard and waited too long. It will be as plain as the nose on your face that we are who we say we are and yet some still will question.
TRUST IN YOURSELVES DEAR FRIENDS. NO ONE ELSE BUT YOURSLEVES. FOR THERE LIES ALL KNOWLEDGE AND TRUTH. WE CAN NOT STRESS HOW IMPORTANT THIS STATEMENT IS.
Only by following your heart’s feelings shall you know who we are and why we come. Abide by that, we beseech you.
We feel now it is time to finish up this session.
It feels so like when I had my last session with you finishing ‘The Bridge’ … I howled, not knowing when we would resume. Yet … this is different of course. My heart is full of LOVE for you guys, I consider it an honour to have been chosen as your messenger, TRULY I do, through thick and thin and all that … I simply can’t wait for Tuesday, … I know … I have to.
Our last words then before we reveal ourselves in your skies
WELCOME HOME!
And to you fellow wanderers ... from us earthlings …
Welcome to planet earth !!!!!!!!!!!!! Big time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This was just posted on 10-14-08.blogspot.com
All Soldiers on Stand by for Deployment on October 14th
I just received this email from an alleged French-Canadian Soldier:
I am a canadian soldier(reservist). I just receive a e-mail from a lieutenant of my regiment saying all reservist soldier must be on stand by (48 hours) for deployment between october 13 and october 19. They don't say why. And they tell me not to talk to much about it so i dont create panic. Now this is very serious..im not liar. If you want the e-mail, I can send it to you but its all french, I'm from québec (french native)
I have asked him for this confirmation email he speaks of. Once I receive it, I will have it posted here.
~Namaste.
As they say, 2010, the year we make contact. Think its a bit early tho. And come to think of it,
The head guy at SETI a while back did state publicly that a signal had been found. Then silence.
Time says. Only a couple of days to go.
thaelin
why am I here?
2 Days and counting! i will be watching the alabama sky's! Threw my window of course while using my oxygen tank, im afraid of the gas.
Hi all.
Take a look . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_xDpqSTNEQ
Huge ufo hovers over Shanghai China
its almost alien time! lol ;D
I hate to tell you but that video is a fake. look at this video. notice the same shots. its about the guy that they call "spiderman" sorry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqcebC5kqTg
and here is the audio track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WK9O1--GPU
Well,
There is only a day and a bit to go now. I take it it goes after American Time, Alabama time maybe.
After that I expect a number of changes. The Blossom will turn into a Rotten Cabbage and the Goodchild will turn into a Brat.
I wonder if aliens want to communicate with someone called Cabbage Brat.
Maybe they will, they allegedly have done stranger things.
Hans von Lieven
Grand Master, Illuminati.com.ch
@hansvonlieven
Cabbage Brat sounds good, but my idea is Blossom Hoaxchild ;D
greetings
Tomorrow we will see
leo48
wow :D tomoraow nothin hapens and big shame on all alienfrends :D
Big ships keep on flyin'
Carry me home to see my kin
Singing songs about the southland
I miss alabamy once again
Well I heard mister Yucca sing about her
Well, I heard ole Hans put her down
Well, I hope von Lieven will remember
A mystic man dont need him around anyhow
Sweet home alabama
Where the light ships are so blue
Sweet home alabama
Lord, we're coming home to you
In birmingham they love Z-Monkey
Now we all did what we could do
Now Stargate does not bother me
Does pseudo-science bother you?
Tell me true
<CHORUS>
Now muscle shoals has got the swampers
And they've been known to see a ship or two
Lord they get me off so much
They channel stuff when Im feeling blue
Now how about you?
<CHORUS>
i am so excited to see the usual sun, sky and clouds tomorrow... :D
Posted on 14-10-08.blogspot.com
My power was mysteriously knocked out.
Across the city of Victoria, my city's entire power was knocked out for about 30 minutes.
It was the strangest thing, the clock on my stove and microwave felt like faded out and zoomed out before just cutting out. Turns out that everywhere I looked no one had power.
If anyone else has had a power outage where they live, please contact me. I have never seen a power outage before like this...This could be in relation to October 14th, but I'm not sure. Please contact me or reply via this comment if you have had your power knocked out recently.
~Namaste.
UPDATE: I have just tuned into the radio news where I live, and a BC Hydro tech was talking about the incident. The transmission was lost for reasons unknown. They cannot understand how the power went out. There is no explanation for the lost power.
Guys, my own haunch is this may have something to do with a possible light ship perhaps near the pacific northwest. It may have caused a transmission interference disrupting power. Another commenter mentioned that power was recently out in Las Vegas about a day ago for two hours, no explanation given.
My truth, my feelings is this has something to do with the light ships. And from my experience of this. October 14th IS GOING TO HAPPEN!!
2ND UPDATE:
I contacted my local news radio that was doing an update on the power situation. I MANAGED TO GET ON THE AIR TO PLUG OCTOBER 14TH! I said these words:
"I've been following the current internet phenomenon of a UFO entering our skies on October 14th. This UFO could have very well caused this transmission interruption. Everyone, keep your eyes peeled to the sky on October 14th..."
After I said that, they hung up on me...But it was too late. I got it on the air before they could cut me off...Hmmm, cover up anybody? LOL
Man, that was fun. LOL!
THIS EXPERIENCE RELATED TO A BLOSSOM GOODCHILD QUOTE:
"On the other hand your planet will be made aware of our presence drawing closer through different signals and transmissions that we shall emit through various sources."
Transmissions...Well this definitely qualifies as such a presence of awareness to me. I cannot wait until Oct 14th guys! I'm more excited now than ever!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ2wCR9Lo7Q
If cell phones went off and car alarms went off then something is draining the power of all systems even though they are not connected. If the witness accounts are true how would you explain this?
Ha ha, William hill has stopped taking bets on the event happening in case its real.
Bookies are set to lose millions of pounds if E.T.’s pals do approach our planet. Mr Adams added: “We now have seven-figure liabilities if the ship does appear and we have decided to duck any more big bets until Oct-ober 14 has passed, hopefully without incident.â€
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/54515/Aliens-will-land-here-tomorrow/
Quote from: shooter001 on October 13, 2008, 06:22:47 AM
Ha ha, William hill has stopped taking bets on the event happening in case its real.
Bookies are set to lose millions of pounds if E.T.’s pals do approach our planet. Mr Adams added: “We now have seven-figure liabilities if the ship does appear and we have decided to duck any more big bets until Oct-ober 14 has passed, hopefully without incident.â€
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/54515/Aliens-will-land-here-tomorrow/
Now cummon, this news paper reported that there was a B52 Bomber on the MOON, and about 1000 other stories to sell it's amusing paper.
Just over 1 hour to go if you live in Suva, Fiji.
I'm getting my cannons ready, verbal cannons to ridicule all the BELIEVERS! lmfao.
I've got my Canon ready...
And my Nikon, and my Sony...
I bought a telescope pre just see the ship arrives
Hi all
leo48
Its getting exciting now. Ive got my batteries fully charged for my camera ;), here is another channel update.
Atmos 13-October-2008
The excitement mounts as the prospect of the 14th October Sighting is upon you. The news of it has spread far and wide, and it has caused people to take a serious view about the consequences of such an important event. Some naturally feel uneasy about the possible outcome, but by far the majority are relieved that some form of help is coming to Earth. They may not all be aware of the nature of it, but in your present turmoil they look to any source that can offer a way out. Those who have followed the various messages coming through many different channels, have at least an idea as to what may happen. One fact that is absolutely certain is that you are at a stage in your evolution where you must prepare to move on. The end of this cycle has allowed for different options over the course of time, but many have chosen to ascend and have accordingly raised their vibrations. Ascension is a process that you have been involved in for quite some time, and by Divine Decree it must take place.
The stage is set for a grand finale and a glorious time of enlightenment, and the spreading of much love and harmony. The Light is reaching into people’s heart centres, and awakening them to greater possibilities than they have previously considered. Some hide away from the possible outcome of recent financial turmoil, as it is an emotional issue for which they have not been prepared. Those of the Light understand that much of the old has been found wanting, and no longer able to continue at a time when the new energies are being grounded upon Earth. We would wish for all to have an opportunity to be aware of why so many changes are occurring, and when we can come out openly and talk with you the explanations will be given. Simply stated, you are in the end times and must be prepared to undertake the next part of your evolutionary journey.
As you might imagine, we have not come thus far to be thwarted by the continued actions of the dark forces. They have been allowed to play out their hand, and it was seen that they would implode of their own volition. It clearly has resulted in many hardships and continues to do so, but you have our assurance that in the immediate future all will be well. The cleansing of the Earth means removing the lower energies and their manifestations, and as you have already seen, it cannot occur overnight. Having said that we will instigate the changes in a series of projects that shall run along side each other. In that way it shall seem to you that progress is made very quickly. Dear Ones, we have planned for this particular period for a long time, and once we have established our presence, shall move on to the next announcement of open contact. Your governments clearly already know of our plan, and have been as interested in our intentions as any one else. Some are reluctant to accept us however there is no choice involved any longer, as you the people have “invited†us within your midst.
October the 14th will be a monumental day when at last you see irrefutable evidence of our presence. It will sweep away the deliberate policy of most governments to hide the facts of our existence. Not only that but also our contact with their officials offering to bring peace to Earth, which has repeatedly been rejected. Our help has been extended to you since you first split the atom, as it was seen that this would lead to the development of nuclear weapons with the power to destroy your Earth. We shall eventually prove to you beyond doubt, that on more than one occasion you were intending to bring about a nuclear war. We shall also show you proof that your actions could have destroyed your Earth. We wish you to be aware that we have acted as your guardians for many thousands of years, and you would not have been where you are now without our help, indeed you would not have reached this high point in evolution.
Our help has been on both a physical and mental level, as we have tried to encourage a more spiritual and loving approach to life. We talk often of our allies, and be assured that many of our kind have taken a normal incarnation upon Earth and walk amongst you even now. They have brought a higher energy to you to help lift up your consciousness, and often been the very ones who have led the way to a higher understanding. You do not realise for one moment how much has been done to help you through this vital period. We along with the many councils that oversee your evolution, have constantly worked for your well being. We do not interfere with your freewill but have always kept a balance between the dark and Light, to give you every opportunity to lift up out of the lower vibrations. Whilst you have determined the nature of your experiences, we have ensured that the Divine Plan works out.
Each and every one of you subconsciously knows why we are here, even if you are not able to bring that knowledge to the waking mind. Many will deny this statement, as they have become tightly bound by different beliefs. We say to you that it is time to bring the truth into the open, and you should allow for a different approach to your understanding. The Spiritual Hierarchy that monitor your progress allow for your freewill choice in all matters, so no pressure or force is used to make you change. There will however be great Beings coming to Earth as teachers of the Truth, and no one will move out of duality without having been presented with it. There is basically one important message, and it is that “You Are All One†and have immutable links with the Source of All That Is. Therefore break down the barriers that separate you from others, and let go of any prejudice or perceived differences. Allow for a coming together, because it will happen once the old paradigm is replaced with one that brings you love, peace and harmony amongst all people.
I am Atmos from Sirius and bring messages of hope and enlightenment, and would advise you that your material problems will be short lived, and a fair and just society shall see out the last years of this cycle. You cannot carry the old vibrations much further, and they must be transmuted into the Light. As always it is your final choice, but realise what an opportunity Ascension offers you to once and for all leave the cycle of Duality behind you. The Golden Age is about to commence, and you can step onto its pathway if you so wish. Live in Love and Light and you will achieve a great step up in your evolution.
Thank you Atmos.
Mike Quinsey.
:P jes aliens sucked energy from celphones and microwawe :D they big uber ship is runing out of power and they need to aporach duracel batery factory for power suply ... they had uber mego interstelar trawel tehnology and mindhackingchenelig abilities but they stil not find beter energy suply way and stil use AA and LI-ON bateries :D
Quote from: hypersoniq on October 13, 2008, 05:50:09 AM
Big ships keep on flyin'
Carry me home to see my kin
Singing songs about the southland
I miss alabamy once again
Well I heard mister Yucca sing about her
Well, I heard ole Hans put her down
Well, I hope von Lieven will remember
A mystic man dont need him around anyhow
Sweet home alabama
Where the light ships are so blue
Sweet home alabama
Lord, we're coming home to you
In birmingham they love Z-Monkey
Now we all did what we could do
Now Stargate does not bother me
Does pseudo-science bother you?
Tell me true
<CHORUS>
Now muscle shoals has got the swampers
And they've been known to see a ship or two
Lord they get me off so much
They channel stuff when Im feeling blue
Now how about you?
<CHORUS>
Sweet! ;)
UFO could cost bookies £1m
Bookies are facing a million pound plus payout if a psychic's prediction that massive UFO will appear in our skies proves to be true.
Australian 'channeler' Blossom Goodchild says a huge intergalactic spaceship from the alien Federation Of Light will appear on Tuesday, 14 October.
Bookies William Hill have taken a £1,000 bet from Lawrence Trout, of Wiltshire, which will win him £1million if Ms Goodchild is correct.
And they have also taken bets from Ms Goodchild's UK relatives. Her Surrey based niece Rebecca Simpson bet £100 and her step daughter Kelly Mosedale wagered £50.
The wording of the bet is that either George Bush or Gordon Brown will confirm the existence of intelligent alien life within the next year. Hills have cut the price from 1000/1 to 100/1.
"We are slightly nervous but hopeful that Blossom is proved incorrect. We will be keeping our eyes on the skies over the next twenty four hours," said William Hill spokesman Rupert Adams.
"We have always been apprehensive of space based bets ever since we paid out the equivalent of millions when Neil Armstrong landed on the Moon in 1969."
UFO websites are buzzing with predictions that the vessel from the alien Federation Of Light will be visible in our skies for three days.
Better get PhotoShop ready! ;)
QuoteBetter get PhotoShop ready! Wink
yeah :D :D
Maybe they will enlighten bankers that you can't eat interest and that their little game of posing to have wealth to enslave people is done. All they are is a distributor of slavery. Life experience so as to raise up your consiousness to the higher level these "aliens" speak of is the true commodity. The new monetary system should be service notes. In other words your pay check comes in the form of a card that is debited or credited with time spent in the advancement of the human state. You spend an hour repairing someones car. You get an hour credit. No dollar figure because that's just bullshit you can get swindled out of by some corporation stealing people's lives. You spend an hour building a house for the homeless you get an hour credit. You manage a business for an hour you get an hour credit. You manage a corporation for an hour you get an hour credit. You work in government in the white house for an hour you get an hour credit. You educate yourself to become a healer or scientist or engineer or farmer you get time credits. Money is an illusion. If you are a selfish lazy bum you go hungry.
If there is no profit there will be no loss. I there is no profit there will be no need to inflate the economy and devalue a paycheck.
I have just read through all 20 pages on this thread :D Its great the different views and opinions everyone has
Personally I am of the view that if it happens, it happens, if it doesnt well that sucks and I guess we'll have to fight the Illuminati all by ourselves.
Its great to see so many people now becoming aware of the Illuminati and how they have affected our world. We are indeed awakening, the minority are becoming the majority.
So...heres my view on the aliens coming ;D
They will come, or it will be the Illuminati led hoax operation Bluebeam. Panic will ensue (or at least crowding of streets and unruliness LOL) and so troops will be deployed. Martial law will come about and Bush will declare a state of emergency. He will declare himself a dictator and the elections will be scrapped, at this point the 'Amero' will be brought in and with it, the full assault of the New world order. The illuminati will then put protesters into the concentration camps they have been recently building, and they will try their plan to 'depopulate' the world so we are easier to control.
Dark times are ahead which is why I fervently pray that our Brethren arrive, for real, tomorrow.
Ziggy Stardust! Whoa! Awesome!
Welcome to the Weird Science Club, (strangely musical all of a sudden)....
;D
Thank you for a very kind welcome. Of course, theres a lot of messages in music LOL especially Bowie ;D 'Starman' Spiders from Mars' LOL Been singing in my head a few days now.
Didnt know what time it was the lights were low oh how
I leaned back on my radio oh oh
Some cat was layin down some rock n roll lotta soul, he said
Then the loud sound did seem to fade a ade
Came back like a slow voice on a wave of phase ha hase
That werent no d.j. that was hazy cosmic jive
Theres a starman waiting in the sky
Hed like to come and meet us
But he thinks hed blow our minds
Theres a starman waiting in the sky
Hes told us not to blow it
Cause he knows its all worthwhile
He told me:
Let the children lose it
Let the children use it
Let all the children boogie
I had to phone someone so I picked on you ho ho
Hey, thats far out so you heard him too! o o
Switch on the tv we may pick him up on channel two
Look out your window I can see his light a ight
If we can sparkle he may land tonight a ight
Dont tell your poppa or hell get us locked up in fright
Its now the 14th october in Australia, except it is 1 in the morning :P. I wonder if they will show in Australia first?
Isnt 'Alabama Hill' one of the reported sight places for the craft? I cant remember if that was in Australia or New Zealand :P
One is QLD, Au and two others are US Bellingham Wa and another in Ohio somewhere. So........
Could be there, here or way over there. ;D
thaelin
Tonight full ufo, eh moon.
Here are some recent sightings of UFO's.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QPRsFtG5b1I
let my gues ... nothing hapens aliens not caming :D !!!!
so what you say now alien friends ??
I hope the UFO will be more visible, I don't want see balloon in the air as UFO!
Quote from: martinzurix on October 13, 2008, 11:00:29 AM
let my gues ... nothing hapens aliens not caming :D !!!!
so what you say now alien friends ??
we say "2012 they will definately come, because mayas sezz so" :D
somewere in the wedings or other selebrations they realase lot of baloons-ufos :D
From 10-14-08 Blog Gh.J.
Sunday, October 12, 2008
Military confirmation on October 14th follow up
The individual has responded to me regarding the french canadian military's involvement with October 14th. Here is the french email the gentleman had sent me:
HERE IS THE E-MAIL I WAS ALKING ABOUT. ITS FRENCH !!
Bonjour à tous,
SITUATION
1. Dans le cadre de l'OP Élocution (l'assistance du SQFT au Sommet de la Francophonie à QUÉBEC le 14-19 Oct 09), le 34 GBC a demandé que le GBT Salaberry soit prêt à déployer dans un délai de 48h en support au SQFT.
2. La Compagnie A GPE a été mandaté de se préparer à déployer afin de supporter le GBT et le FAS.
MISSION PROBABLE
3. SUR ORDRE DU COMMANDANT DE COMPAGNIE A GPE ET APPROBATION DU COMMANDANT DE COMPAGNIE A 4R22eR, le Peloton 2 GPE se préparera pour un déployement possible le 13 au 19 Oct 08 en tant que composante de la Cie A afin de supporter des taches possibles du GBT et FAS
AUCUN MOVEMENT AVANT
4. 14 Oct 08
RV Ordres
5. AUCUN pour le moment
INSTRUCTION ADMIN
6. Comme demandé par le QG de la Cie A, Commandants de sections et det doivent informer leur membres de la possibilité PEU PROBABLE de devoir se déployer en 48h entre le 13 et 19 Oct 08. Ceci peut être fait simplement par courriel.
7. Commandants de sections et det doivent informer leur membres que cette possibilité est IMPROBABLE et a PEU de chance de se matérialiser. En aucun cas les membres doivent s'assoir sur leur kit en attendant un appel. En aucun cas au fait les membres doivent changer leurs plans ou perturber leurs vies civiles à cause d'un scénario hypothétique. Dites à vos hommes de continuer leurs vies comme si de rien était pour l'instant mais que ceci est simplement un ''heads-up''. Ceci DOIT être mentionné dans votre courriel ou appel aux membres de votre section. Je ne veux pas de dérangement dans la vie de nos soldats à ce moment-ci.
8. Commandants de sections et det doivent me confirmer par courriel ou téléphone avant le 12 Octobre 08 à 1000L le nombre de membres qui seraient théoriquement disponible durant la période du 13-19 Oct 08 si jamais un déployment serait nécessaire. Le laps de temps est court et j'accepterai une estimation du chiffre. Vous n'avez pas besoin d'appeller chaque membre pour discuter d'un scénario hypothétique et d'avoir une confirmation de leur présence. On pourra demander plus en détail le mardi 14 Oct 08.
9. Encore une fois, je ne veux aucune panique ou de rumeurs excitées. Ceci est simplement une combinaison de staff-check et de tenir le personnel du peloton informé d'avance.
10. SVP ack à la réception de ce courriel et j'attendrai les chiffres par section et det dimanche.
Capt Nguyen
I Ran through this a translator and it came up with this:
1. Within the framework of l' COp Elocution (l' assistance of the SQFT at the Top of the Francophonie in QUEBEC 14 Oct 19, 09), the 34 GBC required that the GBT Salaberry be ready to deploy within 48h in support to the SQFT.
2. The Company has GPE was elected to prepare to deploy in order to support the GBT and the FAS. PROBABLE MISSION
3. ON ORDER OF the COMMANDER OF COMPANY HAS GPE AND APPROVAL OF the COMMANDER OF COMPANY has 4R 22eR, the Group 2 GPE will prepare for déployement possible 13 at Oct 19, 08 as a component of the Co has in order to support possible spots of the GBT and FAS NO FRONT MOVEMENT
4. Oct 14, 08 RV Ordres
5. NONE for the moment INSTRUCTION ADMIN
6. As asked by the HQ of the Co has, Commanders of sections and det must inform their members of the NOT VERY PROBABLE possibility to have to be spread in 48h between the 13 and Oct 19, 08. This can be made simply by email.
7. Commanders of sections and det must inform their members who this possibility is IMPROBABLE and has LITTLE chance to materialize. To in no case the members must s' to sit on their kit while waiting for a call. To in no case with the fact the members must change their plans or disturb their civil lives because d' a hypothetical scenario. Told your men to continue their lives as so anything was for l' moment but that this is simply a ' ' heads-up' '. This MUST be mentioned in your email or call to the members of your section. I do not want a disturbance in the life of our soldiers at this time.
8. Commanders of sections and det must confirm to me by email or telephone before October 12, 08 with 1000L the number of members who would be theoretically available during the 13 Oct 19, 08 period if ever one déployment would be necessary. The amount of time is short and j' will accept an estimate of the figure. You n' do not need d' to call each member to discuss d' a hypothetical scenario and d' to have a confirmation of their presence. One will be able to ask more in detail on Tuesday Oct 14, 08.
9. Once again, I do not want any panic or of excited rumours. This is simply a combination of staff-check and to hold the personnel of the informed group d' advances.
10. PLEASE ack with the reception of this email and j' will await the figures by section and det Sunday.
funny....its gona be completely cloudy for the next few days in texas..... coincidence?
DUBBLE POST!!
Here too cloudy, rainy day....
Sunny here in the East UK ;D
As probably everyone I have no idea of the shape/size/look of the spacecraft that is said to show up. But to help give some sort of size estimation of what 2000 miles represents against the earth globe here's a picture...
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fziosproject.com%2FNJ%2F2000miles.PNG&hash=4f5c35b5452da2e29220d035d178850a68410ec9)
very interesting thank you :o
This guy summons a UFO for Live TV!!
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=XwHx5Ru_Q4Y
Gh. J.
Quote from: Gheller J on October 13, 2008, 12:28:11 PM
This guy summons a UFO for Live TV!!
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=XwHx5Ru_Q4Y
Gh. J.
Forget this asshole, its a trick, he have friend releasing balloon before, so he look in the sky until he found his balloon
Good one broli,
What no-one here has realised is that a 2000 mile spaceship is about the size of the moon. The Moon's diameter is 2159 miles.
Maybe they will tell us the moon is an alien spaceship and we didn't know it until now.
Hans von Lieven
Howdy Hans,
The moon IS an alien spaceship, and YOU didn't know it, UNTIL now...
Blessed Be...
Here we go, pathetic
Hans von Lieven
eh? I thought our moon was the result of a collision between earth and a big... thing the federation threw in it.
holy sh++t now you say moon is alien space ship :D haa haa what a crap
were is your federation of light were is big space crap ?? shame on you
Quote from: mindsweeper on October 13, 2008, 06:59:22 AM
Now cummon, this news paper reported that there was a B52 Bomber on the MOON,
and about 1000 other stories to sell it's amusing paper.
It was a B17, I think. We must be precise. And if the scale of the "photo" is anything
to go by, the bomber would have had to have had a wing span of about 500 miles.
Howdy Y'all,
Galactic History states that our moon was the moon for the Planet Maldek (which is now the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter). Maldek was destroyed about 3.2 million years ago. Maldek's moon spent a long time wandering around our solar system before it was towed into the orbit of Earth around 13,000 years ago by the Annunaki. Since then It has been used as observation post to monitor Earth. The GFL is going to tow the moon away because of the problems it creates for the Earth.
Info on Maldek
http://www.salrachele.com/webchannelings/foundersonearthhistorypart4.htm
Info on GFL's plans for the moon, see post #4 titled Moon
http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Marks_Corner/
Blessed Be...
They can't tow the moon away. We cannot allow this to happen. The consequences would be horrific.
We will not be able to have lunatics anymore and comedy threads such as this would disappear from Earth. I for one want to hang on to our valued lunatics that give so much amusement to the world.
Hans von Lieven
z.monkey why GFL not showing us big ships and bla bla bla ??? where are all stuff what you promised to us ???
Howdy Hans,
I enjoy being a lunatic as much as you enjoy watching me be a lunatic...
martinzurix, not until tomorrow, 10/14/2008...
Blessed Be...
well the moon looks really pretty at the moment ;D
I was wondering though..if a great big Spaceship did hover in our vicinity, what would happen to planes and such? My Mum flys back from Turkey tomorrow and I wondered if I should tell her to expect delays LOL
OH MY GOD!!!!
This guy has the total instructions for tomorrow --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xjIjHdBrnI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xjIjHdBrnI)
greetings
Quote from: ziggystardust on October 13, 2008, 09:28:48 AM
I have just read through all 20 pages on this thread :D Its great the different views and opinions everyone has
Personally I am of the view that if it happens, it happens, if it doesnt well that sucks and I guess we'll have to fight the Illuminati all by ourselves.
Its great to see so many people now becoming aware of the Illuminati and how they have affected our world. We are indeed awakening, the minority are becoming the majority.
So...heres my view on the aliens coming ;D
They will come, or it will be the Illuminati led hoax operation Bluebeam. Panic will ensue (or at least crowding of streets and unruliness LOL) and so troops will be deployed. Martial law will come about and Bush will declare a state of emergency. He will declare himself a dictator and the elections will be scrapped, at this point the 'Amero' will be brought in and with it, the full assault of the New world order. The illuminati will then put protesters into the concentration camps they have been recently building, and they will try their plan to 'depopulate' the world so we are easier to control.
Dark times are ahead which is why I fervently pray that our Brethren arrive, for real, tomorrow.
Hi ziggystardust
This is word for word my view as it was relayed to me by a former F.B.I. Agent that held a seminar here in Canada in 1994.
But who is the Antichrist? Something I am still watching for. October 14th it is voting Day for us Canadians. Coincidence?
professor
Quote from: TheOne on October 13, 2008, 12:38:09 PM
Forget this asshole, its a trick, he have friend releasing balloon before, so he look in the sky until he found his balloon
Did I say some thing to offend you (TheOne) ???
Well the link was put up for info and for you all to scrutinize its authenticity!
Then why the use of foul language?? I dont get it!!
Aren't we civilized enough to talk in sane / no-abusive vocabulary or have a decent suggestion or a debate about what it could be, rather than go offending someone for no reason just because the link/info doesn't match up to your constraints of open mindedness??
Which direction are we progressing as a civilized culture?
People just want to shut others up by offending so as to get their point of view across as being right!
Wether right or wrong a point of view is a point of view and your personal understanding / opinion to the topic and not a generalized theory or an opinion of consensus or a proven law!
Please people it would be nice if we could approach a topic / discussion / debate in a progressive civilized intellectual manner!
Gh. J.
Quote from: professor on October 13, 2008, 02:07:00 PM
Hi ziggystardust
This is word for word my view as it was relayed to me by a former F.B.I. Agent that held a seminar here in Canada in 1994.
But who is the Antichrist? Something I am still watching for. October 14th it is voting Day for us Canadians. Coincidence?
professor
I am of two minds...Bush and Barack Obama, Obama is said to be related to Bush through bloodline and to have been 'cultivated' for a role in the New World Order. I am still thinking on this as I do not really have ideals of an 'antichrist' in the biblical sense of the word. Only as an apex of all evil.
Quote from: ziggystardust on October 13, 2008, 02:21:17 PM
I am of two minds...Bush and Barack Obama, Obama is said to be related to Bush through bloodline and to have been 'cultivated' for a role in the New World Order. I am still thinking on this as I do not really have ideals of an 'antichrist' in the biblical sense of the word. Only as an apex of all evil.
As far as the Antichrist is concerned I was refering to the biblical context,as well as the 7 years of tribulations and I also believe in Mayan mythology as far as the 2012 date is concerned which is also referenced by the egyptians.
Nabiru the winged Planet worries me as it seems to come close to the earth every 3600 years and wipe out most of us.
The only difference is that we now have Nuclear Plants and weapons, can there be a survival of anything?
Perhaps Mars experienced the same fate eon's ago? As far as bloodlines are concerned Bush's is that of the Illuminati.
Don't believe it? Google it!
professor
Quote from: felix.lamet on October 13, 2008, 01:38:19 PM
OH MY GOD!!!!
This guy has the total instructions for tomorrow --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xjIjHdBrnI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xjIjHdBrnI)
greetings
Have a look at this crackpot. I am no psychiatrist but even I can tell from his body language that this is very much a mentally disturbed human being in need of care. I especially liked it when he put his tinfoil hat and sunglasses on and told us to "Be Prepared". See picture below.
And we are supposed to take THIS seriously?
You have to be joking.
Hans von Lieven
I am totally aware that Bush is an illuminati Puppet, I am aware of things that go way deeper.
I believe in the Mayan predictions but I am afraid that biblical issues I am sceptical...though open minded about. In 2012 the planetary alignments are predicted to produce a lot of turmoil on the planet, it is thought that water levels will rise and there will be some pretty eratic weather systems, there is also predicted a lot of solar activity, solar flares producing a lot of energy on the planet. I believe that this will effect us mentally, maybe bringing about some form of mental freedom.
The Mayans believed this to be the end of the world........as we know it. I also believe this. I dont think it will be a time of mass destruction....rather a time of mass awakening.
Quote from: ziggystardust on October 13, 2008, 02:56:13 PM
I am totally aware that Bush is an illuminati Puppet, I am aware of things that go way deeper.
I believe in the Mayan predictions but I am afraid that biblical issues I am sceptical...though open minded about. In 2012 the planetary alignments are predicted to produce a lot of turmoil on the planet, it is thought that water levels will rise and there will be some pretty eratic weather systems, there is also predicted a lot of solar activity, solar flares producing a lot of energy on the planet. I believe that this will effect us mentally, maybe bringing about some form of mental freedom.
The Mayans believed this to be the end of the world........as we know it. I also believe this. I dont think it will be a time of mass destruction....rather a time of mass awakening.
You were not addressing the danger of many nuke Plants melting down disbursement of other Chemicals, Nuclear Waist Dump Sites or even Nuclear Weapons itself going off.
A planet coming close to the Earth 3600Years ago was survivable for a few and life went on afterwards,things have changed.
More People less food being the least of the problem. Nuclear Winters from Eruptions,no heat people killing people not with stones either, just the basic stuff.
Thousands of meter high water levels, Dams breaking ,windstorms and the earth rotation stopping is serious,but the nuclear fallout is what concerns me there is no survival period .Those chosen ones that have the underground Facilities paid and bought for by the their countries Citizen will eventually perish as well.
Radiation stays lethal for thousands of years.
No one helped those that once lived on Mars. I know that information is controversial but there is now enough photographic evidence that leads me to believe that a civilization once inhabited Mars.
Like it or not it is bleak and real.
professor
I am sorry but you seem constrained to the belief that we are physical entities. We are not, the bodies we 'wear' are our physical vessels, vessels that contain the real spirtual 'us'. The body is only a computer. We are meant to exist on many planes of existence, on many frequencies and dimensions, once we awaken to these facts and achieve our full potential, chemicals and nuclear weapons will be non existant. Survival on the physical plane may be difficult, but we are, fundamentally, spiritual entities who can survive a nuclear holocaust..a mass volcanic eruption..global wars etc.....The spirit is eternal.
I have two theories of our existence, 1 is that Earth and the 'physical' realm is our education, our training ground and a place to experience and interract with the physical. 2 that this planet is a seed planet and we are shepherds or caretakers, but our knowledge and technologies were taken //nay..stolen from us by other beings, because of this we are unable to defend our planet, and unable to ward of things like other planetary disturbances.
I walked out this morning and looked up at the sky. The alien-spacecraft (oooppps I mean our moon) looked beautiful through the clouds in the morning light. It was big and round and low on the horizon. Wow, how could we allow those scum to tow away our moon!?
I say we send Chuck Norris up there to go kick their arses!!!!!! Yeah!!
Go get'em Chuck!! Yeah!!
Least this topic got Stephan's hit counter whirring. While your here hit some blue links !!!!! Either way z-monkey it's been a trip. Really good philosphy for us all to think about.
Quote from: ziggystardust on October 13, 2008, 03:59:52 PM
I am sorry but you seem constrained to the belief that we are physical entities. We are not, the bodies we 'wear' are our physical vessels, vessels that contain the real spirtual 'us'. The body is only a computer. We are meant to exist on many planes of existence, on many frequencies and dimensions, once we awaken to these facts and achieve our full potential, chemicals and nuclear weapons will be non existant. Survival on the physical plane may be difficult, but we are, fundamentally, spiritual entities who can survive a nuclear holocaust..a mass volcanic eruption..global wars etc.....The spirit is eternal.
I have two theories of our existence, 1 is that Earth and the 'physical' realm is our education, our training ground and a place to experience and interract with the physical. 2 that this planet is a seed planet and we are shepherds or caretakers, but our knowledge and technologies were taken //nay..stolen from us by other beings, because of this we are unable to defend our planet, and unable to ward of things like other planetary disturbances.
Yes I fully agree with you if you are referring to our soul or Spirit rather than our flesh.
Having said that .............
What we agree is that there will be no more Human or other flesh left on Earth right?
So you need to look further and ask yourself " would you wish to live on a totally destructed planet as a soul"?
professor
Quote from: Chef on October 13, 2008, 04:06:57 PM
Where can i find these " photographic evidence"? Can you post a link?
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/
@hansvonlieven
Yes, this was a joke from me. The guy is crazy, an very funny!
His Aluminium hat looks like the one in the movie "Signs" with Mel Gibson.
greetings
Quote from: ResinRat2 on October 13, 2008, 04:25:34 PM
I walked out this morning and looked up at the sky. The alien-spacecraft (oooppps I mean our moon) looked beautiful through the clouds in the morning light. It was big and round and low on the horizon. Wow, how could we allow those scum to tow away our moon!?
I say we send Chuck Norris up there to go kick their arses!!!!!! Yeah!!
Go get'em Chuck!! Yeah!!
all paths lead to chuck norris, and by the transitive property, a roundhouse kick to the face.
Quote from: Chef on October 13, 2008, 04:06:57 PM
Where can i find these " photographic evidence"? Can you post a link?
They are found on U-Tube as videos shot by the Mars space Mission . I have downloaded these Video's
but have not saved the Links and the Bandwidth will not allow me to post these video's here.
I am sure you can find it if you Google it.
professor
Quote from: shooter001 on October 13, 2008, 04:39:44 PM
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/
Thank you Shooter for helping out
seem to remember that link
professor
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on October 13, 2008, 04:40:12 PM
and by the transitive property, a roundhouse kick to the face.
;D
Quote from: Gheller J on October 13, 2008, 02:15:39 PM
Did I say some thing to offend you (TheOne) ???
Well the link was put up for info and for you all to scrutinize its authenticity!
Then why the use of foul language?? I dont get it!!
Aren't we civilized enough to talk in sane / no-abusive vocabulary or have a decent suggestion or a debate about what it could be, rather than go offending someone for no reason just because the link/info doesn't match up to your constraints of open mindedness??
Which direction are we progressing as a civilized culture?
People just want to shut others up by offending so as to get their point of view across as being right!
Wether right or wrong a point of view is a point of view and your personal understanding / opinion to the topic and not a generalized theory or an opinion of consensus or a proven law!
Please people it would be nice if we could approach a topic / discussion / debate in a progressive civilized intellectual manner!
Gh. J.
I have nothing with you my friend, was I was saying his forget this asshole prophet, he say bullshit, see the video about the (The AntiChrist Dajjal will be a Reptilian Shapeshifter), follow the hole series, he talk about this guys and Rael, so after that you will think like I do :)
Enjoy the 200000 hours of video!
Quote from: professor on October 13, 2008, 04:35:29 PM
Yes I fully agree with you if you are referring to our soul or Spirit rather than our flesh.
Having said that .............
What we agree is that there will be no more Human or other flesh left on Earth right?
So you need to look further and ask yourself " would you wish to live on a totally destructed planet as a soul"?
professor
I dont think the destruction will happen :) lets leave it as my thoughts, to your thoughts ...I'm off for a glass of wine ;D
Quote from: felix.lamet on October 13, 2008, 04:39:53 PM
@hansvonlieven
Yes, this was a joke from me. The guy is crazy, an very funny!
His Aluminium hat looks like the one in the movie "Signs" with Mel Gibson.
greetings
Yes felix, this guy is crazy.
However, his craziness consists of believing this Alien stuff. Otherwise he is bang on the button.
An old and true adage is that within the framework of their delusions crazy people are logical and rational.
What he says is just about exactly how the military and the politicians would behave if such an event as the October 14 showdown occurred.
There are those here that would welcome such chaos and that is the sad background to this thread.
Hans von Lieven
Here is a link to the Aluminium Foil Deflector Beanie website, Just in case.
Best to have your bases covered.... ;)
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
Zatheros
If an aluminium beanie gives you a degree of protection against mind control, imagine what a steel helmet can do.
Maybe that is why all armies wear them. :D
Hans von Lieven
Howdy Y'all,
My whole house has an aluminum foil hat... Crazy?
No! It saved me $150 on my August electric bill and $95 on my September electric bill...
See, this thread does have something about free energy in it...
Blessed Be...
Well it is down to hours now, I will look forward to the news on TV Tuesday.
Here is something or maybe not ...
When a smaller object breaks away from a larger spinning object the smaller object takes on a trajectory plus a rotational spin. This is using main stream physics that has been shoved down our throats. Every planet orbiting our sun spins on an axis of somesort ... every moon surrounding these planets orbits on an axis except for ONE ... our moon. It is like it is tethered to our planet ... well it is .. this tether being gravity ... it would seem that the nature of the universe can be observed ... what is not natural will must have a hand from the unatural.
@z.monkey .. How to detect their craft from ours. I have given some thought about this ... not sure if I should let it out or not. But here goes ... those with an open mind and have awareness of their mind ...
We can all sense good and evil ... we all have the ability to sense right from wrong .. even when we are taught wrong or bad things. Deep within us all we all can tell once we become of "age" so to speak. If it is one of ours you will know from the emenating fear that it will bring, if is one of theirs you will not sense fear but feel it as being natural. I do not believe that the alien force that does mean to do us wrong will be allowed to intervine with our free will that we were all given. Most "alien abductions" are done by our own fellow man or the reptillions.
Everyone should be aware by now as history always repeats itself ... good will always and will forever conquer evil or bad.
The illuminati will not prevail if we do not allow them to do so. If anyone has not looked at that youtube video of the Venus Project that was posted not to long ago I strongly suggest that you pay close attention to parts 1-3 ... the rest is up to interpetation. This is how we all enslaved. To truly free yourself .. help your fellow man and allow karma to come in and do the rest.
Regards,
Nickle989
hmmm if they don't show up today then maybe these aliens are
affected by the global crisis too.. ;D
My neighbors cows are going nuts, sounds like someone is killing them.. They've been doing it all night.. Must be the full moon or the aliens are spooking them. ;D
Quote from: jdadojr on October 13, 2008, 08:21:44 PM
hmmm if they don't show up today then maybe these aliens are
affected by the global crisis too.. ;D
Yeah with the price of fuel these days, its going to cost them a lot to get here. Wonder if their ship is a hybrid?
Quote from: nickle989 on October 13, 2008, 08:09:08 PM
If it is one of ours you will know from the emanating fear that it will bring, if is one of theirs you will not sense fear but feel it as being natural.
Nickle989
Howdy Nickle989,
Yes that is correct. Trust your intuition, your higher self. The channeled messages say over and over trust what your core being says about these visitors. Listen to your gut feeling...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: jdadojr on October 13, 2008, 08:21:44 PM
hmmm if they don't show up today then maybe these aliens are
affected by the global crisis too.. ;D
Maybe the GFL will free us from the constant need to eat. The cows are just breathing a sigh of relief.
I seen a vertical rainbow on the way home from work (northeast PA)... ran along the edge of a cloud (beginning to end) no ground termination...
It didn't rain tonight...
I don't fumble with the cell phone's camera while driving so no pic...
they BETTER bring free energy because it's gonna be hard to see at night without the moon... ::)
they're taking the moon? are you sirius? :P
Boy...a lot of energy sure went into this Oct. 14th thing.
If its a hoax it would be the biggest troll job in internet history...but far too much effort expended in the process, for it to be a worthwhile trolling.
Interesting when our inviting 'them' was mentioned...because I certainly wished it.
We sure could use a helping hand though.
Regards...
Hadn't seen any little green or gray men yet , HAHA
What a shame ,This stuff is hilarious ...
Quote from: hovis4cyl on October 13, 2008, 08:24:03 PM
My neighbors cows are going nuts, sounds like someone is killing them.. They've been doing it all night.. Must be the full moon or the aliens are spooking them. ;D
Shit, does that mean the price of milk and butter is going up because of some stupid Aliens? I wish they'd go home.
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 10, 2008, 08:36:04 PM
I don't believe anyone has been able duplicate Meier's photo's with today's technology much less his poorly functioning camera of that era.
You are incorrect.
The photo's Meier lifted from TV and from books are well documented - see the aliens at http://www.iigwest.org/investigations/meier/asket_nera_deconstruction.html and the dinosaur at http://www.iigwest.org/investigations/meier/dinosaur_deconstruction.html.
The Meier UFO photo's have also been replicated many times - see http://www.iigwest.org/investigations/meier/ufopix.html and http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/126/faking_ufo_photographs.html for a start.
The fireship photo is replicated at http://www.iigwest.org/investigations/meier/fire_ship_deconstruction.html.
I can't believe we are seriously discussing this old fraud. What's next - Erich von Daniken and Lobsang Rampa? ::)
Quote from: sparks on October 13, 2008, 04:30:18 PM
Least this topic got Stephan's hit counter whirring. While your here hit some blue links !!!!! Either way z-monkey it's been a trip. Really good philosphy for us all to think about.
Thanks Sparks,
From an orthodox scientific point of view this entire thread is totally absurd....
God is a space alien ???
Mystical channeled messages ???
Timeless bad guys bent on global domination ???
These things stretch the imagination beyond resonable realities.
I have contemporaries that would bellow with laughter and scream that is totally preposterous...
Is it, really? I would like to think not...
What this event has done is make us take a look at our own reality. Perhaps look at some potential possibilities for the future. If a ship does show itself tomorrow I'll happy because they are here. But if there is not a ship showing itself tomorrow I will also be happy. The greater goal is still served. The object here was information dissemination. Some people got the information they needed. Some people took a deeper look at what we are and can be. Some people pulled their heads out of the sand. The object of this project was to widen mans perceptions, to make him stand away from himself and evaluate what he is and wants to become. After that it is as simple as choosing a fork in the road.
Altogether I think this thread is a great success. We had a wide variety of opinions, and ultimately could not agree on anything, but a great success, nonetheless...
Blessed Be...
Well said Z.....
Quote from: z.monkey on October 13, 2008, 09:04:08 PMAltogether I think this thread is a great success. We had a wide variety of opinions, and ultimately could not agree on anything, but a great success, nonetheless...
I think so too. Good job!
Quote from: Chef on October 13, 2008, 04:06:57 PM
Where can i find these " photographic evidence"? Can you post a link?
Howdy Y'all,
Here's an image from Viking, in 1976...
from: http://www.truthism.com/
This will be the las moment I waste responding to you...you are now free to troll elsewhere.
I looked at your dino link which was your "evidence" Meier was a fraud.
Here was the conclusion on the link...
"We are not certain where Meier first published his photograph of a dinosaur, but it has never been denied as being an authentic Meier photograph by Meier or any of his proponents.
This is an example of what appears to be Meier creating "evidence" to support his claims that was unable to be verified until the Internet came into wide usage."
So which came first...the illustration or the photograph ?
Who knows ?
So far you have proven only that you talk from the other end.
Adios...
In my post earlier i stated that the cows are going nuts here. My friend had chipmunks running around in his house today and the cows tonight are just going nuts. I can actually hear them from within my house. I decided to go outside and video tape their screams..
they must be able to sense the space ships or somthing ha ha. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6w1cBLq1HQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6w1cBLq1HQ)
A true prediction of what will happen in the sky's over the United States of America on October 14th, 2008.
....Partly cloudy with scattered thundershowers.....
...As well as plenty of excuses from the October 14th wacknuts who give true believers in life on other worlds a bad name....
Excuses will range from.... "The date was wrong... they'll be coming by later" .... to "I can see them! ... you just have to click your heels together and believe and you'll see them too" ... to "I can see them but you can't because your not one of the annointed ENLIGHTENED ones"...
What a crazy crock of sh!t.......
According to this site the saucer dudes can't do anything unless some Earthling builds and operates a "magnetic stroboscope" to provide them a landing path.
http://www.rexresearch.com/ighina/ighina.htm (near the bottom of the page)
The proper "Star Trek" version would be that the alien ship is Ferengi, and that they were attracted by the banking crisis. They would then buy up those mortgage-backed securities, repackage them, and peddle them all over the galaxy for great short-term profit, causing a galaxy-wide financial crisis a few years later. The Earth would then be seized by angry alien space-investors.
Hovis,
Any chance some calves have just been weaned? This is what cows do for a while after their calves have been taken from them. It's about the right time of year for weaning spring calves.
Still, it COULD be the aliens. ;D
Quote from: hovis4cyl on October 13, 2008, 10:34:05 PM
In my post earlier i stated that the cows are going nuts here. My friend had chipmunks running around in his house today and the cows tonight are just going nuts. I can actually hear them from within my house. I decided to go outside and video tape their screams..
they must be able to sense the space ships or somthing ha ha. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6w1cBLq1HQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6w1cBLq1HQ)
Quote from: not_a_mib on October 13, 2008, 10:44:21 PM
The proper "Star Trek" version would be that the alien ship is Ferengi, and that they were attracted by the banking crisis. They would then buy up those mortgage-backed securities, repackage them, and peddle them all over the galaxy for great short-term profit, causing a galaxy-wide financial crisis a few years later. The Earth would then be seized by angry alien space-investors.
It would never happen. The Ferengi only deal with precious metals (non-replicator created gold and silver) because they know what real money is. LOL! Unlike most citizens of the United States who think paper money backed by nothing is real money.
(Sorry, I just had to put that dib in. Sorry about that.) ;D
Oddly...when they came back from a commercial break during the 6th inning LA Phil playoff game, the camera was focused skyward and focused on what looked like a golden stained glass mosaic arrangement.
It appeared like a framework of golden light, with the spaces in between dark.
No one commented...and the focus went back to field level.
Regards...
Quote from: jdsanders on October 13, 2008, 10:51:30 PM
Hovis,
Any chance some calves have just been weaned? This is what cows do for a while after their calves have been taken from them. It's about the right time of year for weaning spring calves.
Still, it COULD be the aliens. ;D
That makes sense.. :) knew there had to be a logical explaination.. They've never been quite so angry in the past though.. Must be they are missing their calves
I think the tin foil hats are not working.
Aliens in a 2000 mile wide ship, Federation of Light.
Taxpayers bailing out the banks.
Wouldn't a 2000 mile ship actually destroy our atmosphere?
To the scientific folks out there I know little of space travel but I recall reading the extremes of piercing the atmosphere and the problems that can arise and such ...
I dunno its crazy one may argue they have some special capability or what have you but, I still remain just as skeptical as ever on this thread...
We will see in less then 24 hours I do suppose.
-infringer-
@ Hovis:
If you take the time to look back into the life of the native tribes, they always took note of what the animals did.
Something is amis. As to what it is, look deeper and see if the other animals are responding. If you will listen, the
animals will speak to you the only way they can, by actions. Just don't misinterpret the message.
thaelin
Quote from: hovis4cyl on October 13, 2008, 11:00:15 PM
That makes sense.. :) knew there had to be a logical explaination.. They've never been quite so angry in the past though.. Must be they are missing their calves
question for apostals : where is the fk'n ship? i dont see one.
Where is aliens spaceship now? It's 14:15 in Asia (GMT+7)
where is alienship ??? is 10:58 in Latvia i wana kick som elien ass :P
This is a great day arrives T'Pol :-* :-* :-*
leo48
This is a great day arrives T'Pol and Spok
leo48
I just got a message from them on my intergalactic ham radio,
They made a wrong turn at Andromeda and will be a few light years late.
.....
It's also amazing to see all the believers on the back foot attempting to save their credibility.
Stefan, you should be ashamed, opening up a great overunity site to junk categories like this.
From 10-14-08 blogspot
Gh. J.
Tuesday, October 14, 2008
Report of Light Ship Appearing in Australia?
A forum posting I received the following email, even though it seems we can't find the original source of the message:
"Brad,
You can't quote this, because I found it on a Project Camelot forum and they're quoting it's from another forum from that. Maybe it'll show up somewhere that it can be quoted from.... Sorry
This was posted on one of my groups. This person is in Australia, where it is already the 14th:
As someone who has seen many UFOs and a contactee, I had some doubts about Blossom Goodchild's message about a massive UFO appearing in the sky on Oct. 14th..today. Last night shortly after midnight, I was awakened by an electrical buzzing sound. Finally, I got up around 12:15 a.m., Oct.14th and went outside on the veranda. As I looked up at the sky, it was very clear with brightly shining stars all around except where the almost full moon was located, there was a HUGE circular "something" that looked as if it could have been a craft. It was 30 full moons in diameter and not one star was showing within this area. The sky was totally black except I could see the moon which was much smaller than it should have been.
My husband who was a ship's captain for 30 years has never seen anything like this either and he said he had no answers for what was there. We live in a very rural area near Deloraine in Tasmania, Australia. I did take a couple of photos with my digital camera but haven't downloaded the photos yet. Will do that soon.
Something not of this world was definitely showing itself in the early morning sky here.
Jo"
Labels: extra terrestrials, galactic federation, light ship, october 14, sky phenomenon, ufo
Posted by 10-14-08 at 12:05 AM 99 comments
Monday, October 13, 2008
Magenta Pixie and The Nine's Description of the Light Ship
I received this email from Magenta Pixie on YouTube:
Channeled message from Nine last night Channeled message from Nine last night
Dear Brad...
I don't really understand this piece of channeling, not enough to release it as a video on the eve of a possible Lightship sighting, there is not enough information here to release as a video anyway but I thought I'd send it to you. You seem to have gathered together every bit of information you can on the potential October 14th event so I thought you were the obvious person to send this to.
I was very sleepy last night, it was gone midnight & I asked the Nine what their Lightships look like?
This was their reply...
It is more a question of what do they feel like? For a Lightship can be "felt"....
They are vast, bright, large and from your perception...fast.
They are living organic matter with the intelligence, energy and emotion to ba able to communicate with you in third density.
They are our consciousness and are indeed your consciousness.
The nearest thing that may make sense to you in third density that we can show you is "Supernova" for a Lightship is a "Supernova"
Now I have no idea what a "Supernova" is. I have done some quick research and it seems it is some kind of exploding star? Maybe you know more than I do....?
Now this was a clear channeling whilst I was tired and messages come in really well late at night for me, so make of it what you will?
Let me know if you can make sense of this at all?
Love & Light
Pixie xx
A supernova? I believe Magenta may mean that the light ship may look like a miniaturized version of a glowing supernova type star. Not only will we see them, but we will feel them. Tomorrow is going to be a spectacular day!
Labels: channeling, extra terrestrials, flying saucers, galactic federation, magenta pixie, october 14, sky phenomenon, ufo
Posted by 10-14-08 at 8:27 PM 489 comments
Something shown in Melbourne, Australia
This image has been emailed to me by several people. Hard to say what it is, if it is one...Uncertain. What do you think:
No "love" has landed in a ship 3000 kilometres (large? wide? both?)
But then one would need to be an ape to believe such a nonsense. Not that those are in short supply.
No aliens have landed either. What a shame that some here turned to be, yet again, just a schiz group of nonsense believers. It would have been a lot better to let them go to Switzerland and committ massive suicide in the name of the "universal" and "space" "love".
What a pollution of the real intellectual environment shit like this one is. And the lunatics even declared this "thread" as a "success".
What a bunch of aliens' droppings.
it is still possible within these last few hours left to go this can happen yes, but doesn't look very probable sorry guys.
all things are possible but doesn't mean all things are probable :-X
all things are possible to some degree as well as all things are probable to some degree. or am i just another crazy person? :D
the only time all things are possible is through complete harmony in that which you want to manifest.
EDIT - in other words we'll see what happens...only a few hours left...will look at the skies like i always do everyday. if anything i'll let you guys know. ;D
peace
LMAO
that is a pic of the SUN shining through the clouds LOL
Quote from: Gheller J on October 14, 2008, 04:17:25 AM
From 10-14-08 blogspot
Gh. J.
Tuesday, October 14, 2008
Report of Light Ship Appearing in Australia?
A forum posting I received the following email, even though it seems we can't find the original source of the message:
"Brad,
You can't quote this, because I found it on a Project Camelot forum and they're quoting it's from another forum from that. Maybe it'll show up somewhere that it can be quoted from.... Sorry
This was posted on one of my groups. This person is in Australia, where it is already the 14th:
As someone who has seen many UFOs and a contactee, I had some doubts about Blossom Goodchild's message about a massive UFO appearing in the sky on Oct. 14th..today. Last night shortly after midnight, I was awakened by an electrical buzzing sound. Finally, I got up around 12:15 a.m., Oct.14th and went outside on the veranda. As I looked up at the sky, it was very clear with brightly shining stars all around except where the almost full moon was located, there was a HUGE circular "something" that looked as if it could have been a craft. It was 30 full moons in diameter and not one star was showing within this area. The sky was totally black except I could see the moon which was much smaller than it should have been.
My husband who was a ship's captain for 30 years has never seen anything like this either and he said he had no answers for what was there. We live in a very rural area near Deloraine in Tasmania, Australia. I did take a couple of photos with my digital camera but haven't downloaded the photos yet. Will do that soon.
Something not of this world was definitely showing itself in the early morning sky here.
Jo"
Labels: extra terrestrials, galactic federation, light ship, october 14, sky phenomenon, ufo
Posted by 10-14-08 at 12:05 AM 99 comments
Can't wait to "see" your "photos".
We'll be waiting a long time, right? After all, it was over thirty moons in size (few centimetres short of 3000 kilometres, but who am I to be the skeptic...) and it is to big for the film in your old photo camera... And so bright, we'll see just a light (from your table or bed lamp, I suppose).
Did you take those little green and yellow pills doctor gave you for those sounds in your head? You better give me one now too. My head is full of aliens and theya ll talk at the same time, it's a madhouse up there. Drives me nuts...
This is nonsense. Nothing will happen. Get your egg wipers hovering over your faces to minimize embarrassment.
Why wait till tomorrow, I'll say I told you so now. ;)
I last night I saw the movie "Independence Day"
better be prepared several surprises.
hello world
leo48
LOL WTF all you guys doing on OVERUNITY forum anyways ah? you suck you will never get it ROFL you want to build overunity device
you are so nerrow minded u willl never even come close... there s more out there then u could ever dream.... hehe overunity stick to your newtonien physics and go back to sleep.... and get into shock and run down the street when it will to happen.. and it will happen today.
Quote from: shablol on October 14, 2008, 05:35:37 AM
LOL WTF all you guys doing on OVERUNITY forum anyways ah? you suck you will never get it ROFL you want to build overunity device
you are so nerrow minded u willl never even come close... there s more out there then u could ever dream.... hehe overunity stick to your newtonien physics and go back to sleep.... and get into shock and run down the street when it will to happen.. and it will happen today.
You will not further your cause by propagating nonsense and accusing people of not being open minded enough to accept it.
lol i dont have a cause. it is just sad to see us.. people and how they act what they write... just sad.
you need to think if they lied about overunity . then everything you were ever told is wrong dont you get it?
it is all one big bloof all to lead you away from the truth... and they did a very good job and thats sad.....
Well October 14th hasnt began for some counties, as they are still asleep, I mean if there gonna show I think they would choose when they are awake to do it. Also wouldn't it be logical to assume the place that needs to see it most is America since that is were most of the corruption and control is coming from. So in that light I would say when most of America is awake on the 14th that is the best time to strike.
Right now it's 65 degrees and clear skies over most of Alabama.
Clear messages say they drop to our "reality" (so no special beliefs required to see this thing)
over the next 3 days...
Thursday 11:59:59 PM Alabama time... that's the self-imposed window's closing...
If the believers ever hope to be taken seriously again, that's the deadline for some concrete evidence.
tick-tock...
Quote from: shablol on October 14, 2008, 05:51:43 AM
lol i dont have a cause. it is just sad to see us.. people and how they act what they write... just sad.
you need to think if they lied about overunity . then everything you were ever told is wrong dont you get it?
it is all one big bloof all to lead you away from the truth... and they did a very good job and thats sad.....
In a way it is good that you are linking the validity of your beliefs to this one date, as we will be able to dismiss you shortly.
Quote from: hypersoniq on October 14, 2008, 06:01:44 AM
Right now it's 65 degrees and clear skies over most of Alabama.
Clear messages say they drop to our "reality" (so no special beliefs required to see this thing)
over the next 3 days...
Thursday 11:59:59 PM Alabama time... that's the self-imposed window's closing...
If the believers ever hope to be taken seriously again, that's the deadline for some concrete evidence.
tick-tock...
mmm...
Quote from: hypersoniq on October 14, 2008, 06:01:44 AM
Right now it's 65 degrees and clear skies over most of Alabama.
Clear messages say they drop to our "reality" (so no special beliefs required to see this thing)
over the next 3 days...
Thursday 11:59:59 PM Alabama time... that's the self-imposed window's closing...
If the believers ever hope to be taken seriously again, that's the deadline for some concrete evidence.
tick-tock...
Well...I...
Quote from: hypersoniq on October 14, 2008, 06:01:44 AM
Right now it's 65 degrees and clear skies over most of Alabama.
Clear messages say they drop to our "reality" (so no special beliefs required to see this thing)
over the next 3 days...
Thursday 11:59:59 PM Alabama time... that's the self-imposed window's closing...
If the believers ever hope to be taken seriously again, that's the deadline for some concrete evidence.
tick-tock...
Ooops....moderator please delete.....hello?
Hello??
Quote from: shooter001 on October 14, 2008, 05:51:46 AM
Well October 14th hasnt began for some counties, as they are still asleep, I mean if there gonna show I think they would choose when they are awake to do it. Also wouldn't it be logical to assume the place that needs to see it most is America since that is were most of the corruption and control is coming from. So in that light I would say when most of America is awake on the 14th that is the best time to strike.
Now everything revolves about the USA. Pull that FAT finger out your ass, you're enjoying it way too much.
It's a no show.. E.T's never were coming and NEVER will. It's time to STFU and eat a shed load of embarrassment pie.
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 14, 2008, 05:23:52 AM
Can't wait to "see" your "photos".
We'll be waiting a long time, right? After all, it was over thirty moons in size (few centimetres short of 3000 kilometres, but who am I to be the skeptic...) and it is to big for the film in your old photo camera... And so bright, we'll see just a light (from your table or bed lamp, I suppose).
Did you take those little green and yellow pills doctor gave you for those sounds in your head? You better give me one now too. My head is full of aliens and theya ll talk at the same time, it's a madhouse up there. Drives me nuts...
lol ;D
Those by the way aren't my pictures Dr.Tes but a copy paste job from the 10-14-08 blogspot as mentioned at the top of the post :)
Lets see if anything turns up ... either ways is fine by me. Gh. J.
Sorry repeat :-[
Quote from: Gheller J on October 14, 2008, 06:37:47 AM
Those by the way aren't my pictures but a copy paste job from the 10-14-08 blogspot :)
Lets see if anything turns up ... either ways is fine by me. Gh. J.
So either way is fine by you. What a relief. Thanks for letting us know. :)
The fact that anyone really expects something of significance to happen on cue is absolutely insane, by the way. Perhaps we should be kinder to the afflicted, and I probably would be, if not for their smugness.
Did you hear that?
Its the sound of nothing happening heh heh heh
Nothing will happen and Blossom Goodchild maybe sold her last book.
Quote from: Gheller J on October 14, 2008, 04:17:25 AM
[cut]
Magenta Pixie and The Nine's Description of the Light Ship
I received this email from Magenta Pixie on YouTube:
Channeled message from Nine last night Channeled message from Nine last night
Dear Brad...
[cut]
Dear Magenta Pixie,
Could you please hook me up with Seven of Nine?? She is definitely hot!!
Thanks,
Mike
Already afternoon in Europe - nothing happend :'(
Only chosen people see it ???
Anyway cheers,
khabe
It's going to be an interesting day for some people, because of their expectations their senses will be heightened, normally we ignore a great deal of things in our surrounding environment, sound, visual, that's because they happen everyday and we filter them out, but anticipation will bring these things to the forefront of their senses and the imagination will go wild, this will be especially so toward night fall, every little creak, the sounds of critters, movements, if you have a really good imagination then your in for quite a ride and it won't need any visiting aliens to make it so.
P.S. I note the usual blurry pictures of UFOs, it's getting old guys!
??? ::) ???
It's 8:40AM EST in Florida and there is no 2000 mile long light ship visible.....yet.
Hmmm......maybe it's sooo light that you can't see it? That would explain what they meant by "light ship".
Anyway....nice try guys.
Remember:
13:1 If there arise in the midst of you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and he give you a sign or a wonder, 13:2 and the sign or the wonder come to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, “Let us go after other gods†(which you have not known) “and let us serve themâ€; 13:3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet, or to that dreamer of dreams: for Yahweh your God proves you, to know whether you love Yahweh your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 13:4 You shall walk after Yahweh your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and you shall serve him, and cling to him. 13:5 That prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death, because he has spoken rebellion against Yahweh your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to draw you aside out of the way which Yahweh your God commanded you to walk in. So you shall put away the evil from the midst of you.
Just a thought.
It was a bit cloudy in the morning.. sun shines at the moment... I'm sure I would noticed a 2000 miles big ET ship over the Europe...
So, did all the patients got their medicine today...?
???
My friend just called from India to say they are having extraordinary blackouts, no weather anomalies causing this. Adelaide also had strange blackouts last night.
where are prophets z.monkay end `shuter` ??? :D are they taken away by GFL ?? or they now hawe big orgazmo waching us :D
sore i from europe what is `blackout` ???
Quote from: martinzurix on October 14, 2008, 09:15:42 AM
where are prophets z.monkay end `shuter` ??? :D are they taken away by GFL ?? or they now hawe big orgazmo waching us :D
taken away by men in white jackets more likely ;D ;D
Quote from: martinzurix on October 14, 2008, 09:17:41 AM
sore i from europe what is `blackout` ???
powercut over a large area , loss of electricity and lights
Quote from: martinzurix on October 14, 2008, 09:17:41 AM
sore i from europe what is `blackout` ???
Total loss of power.
Kirk: I want Z.Monkey on recon, have him report to me at the end of the day...
Sulu: Aye Sir...
We had a problem with two of our UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) in two different buildings.
The frequency of the AC-Powerline changed and we don't know the reason.
Thats strange... but there is no UFO - So I don't pay a 50 Liter Beer Barrel ;D
greetings
what can i say... you guys are so small.... how much fear is within you. how much pride... what an ego..
get out of yourselfs a little. the fact that your in this topic and answer so lively just show how much you want it to happen
but your affraid to be let down... or to be laughed at..
you need to start asking questions... did you even read something about free energy?
how is it the free energy is known for a 100 years and it still isnt out there ? who has such power to hold it back no matter
what country it is developed ? have you ever wondered?
do you really think that you came from the apes just like that oops freak of nature?
what about anti gravity ah? researched about that?
how do you think we have got here. in 50 years ?
how is it that we never went to the moon again with all the develpment but were sending probs to mars?
how is it that the fastest commorcial airplane the conncord flew mach 2x and was developed in 1970.? what happen since were going backwords?
what about the millions of people who witnnessed things in the sky theyre all crazy or cant see too good?
sacred geometry did you read about it? looked at it?
mayan, egyptians herad of them ? oh maybe you read this book the bible? whats going on there?
First know this: you dont know everything espcialy in light of free energy and how it relates to the laws of physics.. so empty your glass (brain) and then open your eyes and hearts with hope that there are special things that can happen to you and all of us. maybe your special
because if there arent life reallly reallly sucks....
and i ASSURE you we ARE SPECIAL and LIFE IS MAGIC.
Quoteyou need to start asking questions... did you even read something about free energy?
I ask you a question: do you believe that it is possible drive a car on water, or build a device that produces energy from thin air?
I have seen many threads in this forum, but no one has a solution for free energy, maybe the 14th of October and Free Energy are both shit.
Maybe, maybe not.
My friend has designed a hybrid car that does run on water, partly, reducing emmissions and fuel costs - well in fact it uses the hydrogen in water but does not 'run' on water alone.
Closed thinking and brushing ideas off willy nilly saddens me greatly, as does attacking people for their freedom of thought and expression.
I am here to share, to think and nurture my ideas and thoughts, to tell me I shouldnt be on this forum, or have such creative thoughts is sad, and though I should feel anger...I just feel sad for the people who feel the need to come here and criticise us.
any idea what this is?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stpGmT1oZBk
Hey, I am attacking no one
Quote from: ziggystardust on October 14, 2008, 05:21:22 AM
LMAO
that is a pic of the SUN shining through the clouds LOL
No, it can't be that. Look at the position of the sun, and the light on the tower blocks.
The sun will have been over the photographers right shoulder.
Probably a Photoshop job.
Paul.
sorry :( I meant to quote shablol :P
question for apostals : how mutch books have you sold with titles like '1001 ways to survive year 2012' or '2012 ship of noah. do it yourself' or '2008 Galactic Federation Recipes Book' and so on and so on :D what is the income from spreading crap around the world ? ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D
Quote from: shablol on October 14, 2008, 05:35:37 AM
LOL WTF all you guys doing on OVERUNITY forum anyways ah? you suck you will never get it ROFL you want to build overunity device
you are so nerrow minded u willl never even come close...
You are an ignorant dick-head. Get up off your back side and build a Bedini SG.
Measure the power in
Measure the power out.
Divide the former into the latter, prat.
Paul.
All energy is free. It is just that we have left it up to "them" to gather it. There is/ was no incentive to develop clean fuels or solar energy collection or hydrogen production and distribution when all you had to do is exploit a natural rescourse.
Now it has become imperative. I believe other civilizations have been trying to communicate technology to us for years. Photon streams that react with our ionosphere and emit plazma packets that burn crop circles. We are just too stupid or pompous to think that life was given to other beings that don't have chromosomes like ours. If these beings are coming it will be just like these channellers describe. Light ships. Hollagraphic images created by manipulation of our ionosphere with energy streams. Extraterrestrial or intraterrestrial what is the difference. Whoever is capable of doing this isn't your average stock market analyst/bookie intellect at work.
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ufoxp6.jpg
Quote from: Yucca on October 14, 2008, 10:19:36 AM
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ufoxp6.jpg
Wow thats a weird cloud...
OK im still here waiting in anticipation.
This is the channeled message:
1a. Dearest Blossom. All that we choose to say to you is to let go of your fears. We WILL do as we say and before the 15th Oct has come to pass in all corners of your globe this event shall have come to fruition for all to glory in. We shall surprise many in how this all comes about. We say this to you people of earth who are in anticipation of the greatest vibration.
So we will have to wait until the end of 15 Oct to say it is a hoax, not before! I think its 1am in Australia now so there is around another 22 hours or so before we can fault the statements given and call it a failure or a hoax.
Quote from: Yucca on October 14, 2008, 10:19:36 AM
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ufoxp6.jpg
wow cheep photoshoping :D
Quote from: Paul-R on October 14, 2008, 10:04:26 AM[...] an ignorant [...]
I suppose he meant it the other way around, that if one is not open enough to see a possibility for unexplained things then one is unlikely to succeed at all outside of established physics (like "OU") because one is not able to "see" "it". Just a guess... Emotions are high at the moment...
With all the great video programs today, its really hard to even accept the pic of the weird
cloud up a few. Strange for sure but.....
I wish they would make popups and popunders illegal. Such a pain in the add.
thaelin
::)
Is there someone in Alabama who can give us first-hand news?
regard
leo
::) Ummm.....
Now we must wait until October 15th?
:-[ :holds breath: :-[
i realy believe that wee not alone in space
but such crap like ` big light aliens with jesus cris and archangels come to save us form bad gowrement and big bad iluminaties` sore but this is mad man crap. this mad man dont like his live and want liw in his own imagenery word and internet give him ability to make his imagenery word litle bit real and involwe lot of other people toplay this mad game !!!
Quote from: martinzurix on October 14, 2008, 10:28:24 AM
wow cheep photoshoping :D
{latvian greeting}
MÄrtiņ, sveiciens tautieÅ¡iem!
{/latvian greeting}
Now, thats no photoshop. If you take a closer look - you can see that it is a reflection on the window, reflecting the lamp in the room. If you take even closer look you will the the silouethe of the photographer and the reflection of the lighting on the wall.
where did that channeling message come from? not off Blossom's site ???
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{latvian greeting}
MÄrtiņ, sveiciens tautieÅ¡iem!
{/latvian greeting}
ooo jaa sveiciens tev arii :)
eh vecais triks ar lampu :D
@aiks
Cool observation. I actually didn't scrutinize the pic enough to see the reflections.
Thanks
Quote from: ziggystardust on October 14, 2008, 10:43:06 AM
where did that channeling message come from? not off Blossom's site ???
The message if from Blossom Goodchild site under the channelings section on page 5.
OK, You know how I shy away from questions, but there is this big one regarding time zones in different countries, which then puts OCT 14th on different days, if you know what I mean? Are you able to enlighten me on this at all?
Dearest Blossom. All that we choose to say to you is to let go of your fears. We WILL do as we say and before the 15th Oct has come to pass in all corners of your globe this event shall have come to fruition for all to glory in. We shall surprise many in how this all comes about. We say this to you people of earth who are in anticipation of the greatest vibration …
LET GO OF YOUR FEARS AND ANXIETIES.
By now you are aware and we can not make it any plainer that we come to bring you PEACE. So in the days that lead up to this special day in the history of your planet, allow your beings to fill up with LIGHT and GRATITUDE.
FEEL the LOVE that is already filtering through. Many of you will be experiencing what you call of the butterflies in the heart place. We are merely preparing you. Indeed you are preparing yourselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD11SCO7hCg
It got to be fake !
But maybe ?
;D ;D ;D
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F1%2F1e%2FStarWarsTheForceUnleashed1.jpg&hash=b87d88b48b056fd6df3b461bddb1a0ba9f0927e4)
Told ya, them damn universe navigation systems, old star maps. They should have checked for a map update before they left home.
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 14, 2008, 04:40:54 AMWhat a pollution of the real intellectual environment [...]
Hmmm... So you've heard of a box and you want to play in it. But nobody wants to join you. Well, maybe it helps to take a look at the box and learn about its customs and rules, and follow them also. Still nobody wants to play with you? They want to be outside-the-box? Well, you might use a bigger box where a larger part of reality fits in... [Or use the established approach of mass-hypnosis to convince everybody that your box is bigger than it looks like and that they must make themselves (or their dreams) smaller instead.]
wow.... whats wrong with you... you read half sentences and pick up what you want to hear?
its not jesus crist coming to save us from goverment..
it is called crist being its a state of mind the same that the guy called jesus was in.
they are not E.T's or aliens , they are YOU all you people who forgot wht they are...
they are your parents brothers and sisters.. they made you in their image... remember the verse?
you are the gods you create everything that there is... we all do it together... your agreed to be here before you were born this is a class room
the name of the class is duality good or bad black or white enemy or friend , the absord thing is that you have all the power but you dont remember how to use it... duality . this field of research OU , and the awakaning is writen into the system . they reveal themselfs now
because now is the time that was set for this.
above each boss , president , theeres another boss so the goverment is just a small step in the ladder.
the crist being means to evolve or tor emember who you are fully.. meanning going from duality to unity .. rings a bell? UNITY
from 2 to the 3 or meaning their isnt good or bad therse both and you are above it.. where 1+1=3 OVERUNITY.!!
2 magnetic fields in certin arrangmet can give you a 3rd power that is more then the some of the parts like in Josef Flynn parallel path
tech. so it no coincidence that the free energy field burst into life this time... this is a prison we are slaves... look at the movie zietgist
and it is the best prison because the inmates dont know they are jailed so the joke is all on you who are asleep at the wheel.
I agree with what you just said Shablol...no need to shout though LOL ;D
personally I loved zeitgeist, and the movie 'money as debt' ... and we have even got the satellite channel 'edgemedia tv' , its pretty good stuff.
Quote from: shablol on October 14, 2008, 09:32:18 AM
how is it the free energy is known for a 100 years and it still isnt out there ? who has such power to hold it back no matter
Prove it, otherwise your just guessing
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do you really think that you came from the apes just like that oops freak of nature?
More proof of evolution than some magical sky fairy.
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what about anti gravity ah? researched about that?
Prove it, otherwise again your just guessing.
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how do you think we have got here. in 50 years ?
By the hard work and sacrifice of men and woman.
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how is it that we never went to the moon again with all the develpment but were sending probs to mars?
I ask myself the same question.
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how is it that the fastest commorcial airplane the conncord flew mach 2x and was developed in 1970.? what happen since were going backwords?
Well DOH!, it was too expensive to maintain and fuel.
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what about the millions of people who witnnessed things in the sky theyre all crazy or cant see too good?
Millions of people every year witness strange things in the sky, note the word "strange" not understood, not indentified, not conclusive.
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First know this: you dont know everything
The only sensible line in this post, you are correct, we/you do not know everything, but I suggest a good education helps, try staying away from the bible and read some real educational stuff.
Quote from: shablol on October 14, 2008, 11:27:45 AM
wow.... whats wrong with you... you read half sentences and pick up what you want to hear?
its not jesus crist coming to save us from goverment..
it is called crist being its a state of mind the same that the guy called jesus was in.
they are not E.T's or aliens , they are YOU all you people who forgot wht they are...
they are your parents brothers and sisters.. they made you in their image... remember the verse?
you are the gods you create everything that there is... we all do it together... your agreed to be here before you were born this is a class room
the name of the class is duality good or bad black or white enemy or friend , the absord thing is that you have all the power but you dont remember how to use it... duality . this field of research OU , and the awakaning is writen into the system . they reveal themselfs now
because now is the time that was set for this.
above each boss , president , theeres another boss so the goverment is just a small step in the ladder.
the crist being means to evolve or tor emember who you are fully.. meanning going from duality to unity .. rings a bell? UNITY
from 2 to the 3 or meaning their isnt good or bad therse both and you are above it.. where 1+1=3 OVERUNITY.!!
2 magnetic fields in certin arrangmet can give you a 3rd power that is more then the some of the parts like in Josef Flynn parallel path
tech. so it no coincidence that the free energy field burst into life this time... this is a prison we are slaves... look at the movie zietgist
and it is the best prison because the inmates dont know they are jailed so the joke is all on you who are asleep at the wheel.
What dribble, why the ships, 2000 mile ships full of NOTHING but light, we all gotta bow down to them and accept them to be our enlightenment.
You been reading way to many Marvel comics dude. Get out, get a girl and do some NORMAL things.
It's not going to happen and it NEVER will.
Is anyone here familiar with googel earth? I am a numpty at it and only just downloaded it but over the Northern hemisphere there is a weird solid blue triangle. Is google earth real time? are there generally glytchs on the pictures? can someone else have a look?
Its a blue triangle west of Alaska
hehe. it amazes me... where did you here anything about bowing down? it is your fear that clouds your reading skills....
you feel small and powerless... read the message of blossmm did you read anything about submitting yourself to them?
or bowing? you are now bowing before your prime minister or president, all they are the saying we come in peace and love to let you know
we exist.. that all they dont want you to bow or to work 60 hours a week or to pay 50% income tax, nothing so crazy.. just to let you know
what you can have if you choose to thats all. so you can get a girl and then a wife and the a divorce and keep working all day for the rest of your life just to end up with nothing at the end if you want.
btw the ship is made from light just like you....
There is no getting round it. Some people are really stupid.
Hello ziggy!
I have seen that triangel. Its only visionable when we see the clouds. And that clouds are realtime I think. But the earth is old pictures I guess! :)
Someone else pointed out this link
http://blossomgoodchild.blogspot.com/2008/10/enough-is-enough.html?commentPage=4
They are pissed off because she got them hook, line and sinker, they have been suckered and they know it, I do not condone what goodchild has done but neither do I have sympathy for those suckers, perhaps some of them will now wake up to reality, though I doubt it somehow.
Quote from: supermike on October 14, 2008, 12:20:28 PM
There is no getting round it. Some people are really stupid.
Supermike
Please define "stupid"
Do you think you know everything?
Do you think your knowledge is more important than the knowledge of other people just because it is yours?
gary
A connection between Google Earth and some photographs
If you may or may not have noticed, the shapes on Google Earth have moved:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EJpEq-1gFMA/SPS9LeU1msI/AAAAAAAAADs/F9IEymJkOPo/s1600-h/gearth-triangle.jpg
We see this very large triangular shape heading down from the arctic down to Northern Canada.
I received these set of two pictures last night from a gentleman in Finland. His email stated:
"Brad, I've just witnessed the most remarkable thing here in southern Finland. Just got back from driving and I'm sending the best photo.
A triangle-shaped object appeared to block the sky for some minutes. It was very dark so there's lots of noice in the picture."
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EJpEq-1gFMA/SPS9y3WuntI/AAAAAAAAAD0/VkJR3MVc3HE/s1600-h/sighting001.jpg
Comparing the two triangle shaped objects on both Google Earth and in Finland, the triangle looks quite identical. Here is a second picture he took:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EJpEq-1gFMA/SPS-CfhP3GI/AAAAAAAAAD8/mKoQCPBMi00/s400/sighting002.jpg
I asked if he could take video, but he mentioned that it was far too dark to see anything through his video camera.
If this is indeed accurate, this light ship could be of triangular proportions. Which would make sense. As Commander Adama has told me, Sirian vessels are of triangular shape.
Between now and the next few hours we may be able to see something here very soon. If there are any individuals in Northern Canada that are within the proximity of where this shape is now, see if you can locate in the sky and take pictures or video if possible so we can confirm that this triangle-shaped object could indeed be the giant light ship. And if this is the light ship, it spans 595 miles approximately.
Keep your eyes peeled on Google Earth to track this object's path as it appears to be making its way further down Canada to the USA.
from 10.14.2008.blogspot.com
Quote from: shablol on October 14, 2008, 12:18:31 PM
hehe. it amazes me... where did you here anything about bowing down? it is your fear that clouds your reading skills....
you feel small and powerless... read the message of blossmm did you read anything about submitting yourself to them?
or bowing? you are now bowing before your prime minister or president, all they are the saying we come in peace and love to let you know
we exist.. that all they dont want you to bow or to work 60 hours a week or to pay 50% income tax, nothing so crazy.. just to let you know
what you can have if you choose to thats all. so you can get a girl and then a wife and the a divorce and keep working all day for the rest of your life just to end up with nothing at the end if you want.
btw the ship is made from light just like you....
LMFAO...
Dribble, dribble total dribble is all you can post. Blossmm has lost it and should stay off the non prescription meds.
It's a shame you can't see the hand on the end of your arm.
After all NOTHING has happend and NOTHING will, I have no need to debunk you any further as you cling to the hope of TOTAL DRIBBLE.
will see who will wake up.... i did all my waking up you have a long way to go with yourself and it wont be pretty.
Quote from: leo48 on October 14, 2008, 10:39:17 AM
::)
Is there someone in Alabama who can give us first-hand news?
regard
leo
Well, I live in Northwest Florida, which we lovingly call South Alabama. I am a few miles from the AL border. I don't see anything but a beautiful, sunny sky in all directions, with a few clouds scattered here and there. If there is a 2000 mile wide spaceship up there, it must be cloaked ;)
>:( I keep telling you guys.....they called it a "light ship". It's so light, you can't see it. >:(
Quote from: shablol on October 14, 2008, 12:37:00 PM
will see who will wake up.... i did all my waking up you have a long way to go with yourself and it wont be pretty.
That's a neat trick, awake while still dreaming.
So.... Where is the ship???? If you can't see it, what is the point?
You guys want perhaps a real conspiracy?
After this day is over, Goodchild will have her ardent followers despite a no show, best way to weed out the thinkers, all that remain are then as pliable as plasticine, mold them to your own cult, take their hard earned wages, then every year on the anniversary remind your pliable followers that it was negativity that forced the light ship to stay away, but promise them that one day when humankind is full of love the light ship will come.
hmm, now thats a plan, back later ;)
Like I said before... nothing but good sci-fi.. good enough that some people think it is true... HELLO ALL.. time to come back to Earth. ;)
Jason
They just announced on CNN a white topped object.
Oh no................. that's Anderson Cooper, their resident alien.
Come on guys. This is an overunity forum and all your noise is pushing threads out of the recent posts list so fast that it is difficult to keep a straight train of thought.
Now I did it too.......... Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I'm possessed..........
wait until later tonight when the moon, er I mean ship rises.
:)
Quote from: ziggystardust on October 14, 2008, 12:14:33 PM
Is anyone here familiar with googel earth? I am a numpty at it and only just downloaded it but over the Northern hemisphere there is a weird solid blue triangle. Is google earth real time? are there generally glytchs on the pictures? can someone else have a look?
Its a blue triangle west of Alaska
Basics: Age of satellite imagery and dataGoogle Earth acquires the best imagery available, most of which is
approximately one to three years old. The information in Google Earth is collected over time and is not 'real time' in nature. For example, it's not possible to see real time changes in images.
We add data to our Primary Database on a regular basis. You can view a list of these additions on the following Google Earth Community page:
http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/latest
You may also want to stay informed through The Sightseer, our monthly newsletter which highlights all of our latest data additions. If you'd like to subscribe, please visit http://earth.google.com/sightseer_signup.html
thanks for that..does that include weather patterns and atmosphere? I understand that the 'imagery' ie, buildings and landscape is older, just wondered about the weather , cloud patterns, etc.
The skeptics should at least wait till it's the 15th over the whole world. Then you can start the "I told you so" essays that no one will read. So have a bit more patience my friends.
Quote from: broli on October 14, 2008, 01:58:02 PM
The skeptics should at least wait till it's the 15th over the whole world. Then you can start the "I told you so" essays that no one will read. So have a bit more patience my friends.
I agree with broli. The day here is only half over. even though I am a skeptic on the claim, I would like it to be true, for I would like these swap gas and weather balloon stories to stop.
Quote from: resonanceman on October 14, 2008, 12:32:28 PM
Supermike
Please define "stupid"
Do you think you know everything?
Do you think your knowledge is more important than the knowledge of other people just because it is yours?
gary
Define stupid? What am I a dictionary? Look it up yourself.
And YES my knowledge is more important than nonsense.
Huge ship made of light arriving today. Yeah right. If you fell for that, you are dumber than you look.
::) Ok....I admit it. I too was driving to work this morning, looking up at the sky, more or less hoping for something spectacular to appear.
If tomorrow comes and still no light show in the sky....then what? Do we continue this thread, knowing all the while we have been duped?
If the light ship shows up tonight or tomorrow, cool. If not....let's end this thread and move on to more pressing matters....like life and such. Deal?
If nothing happens, lets start a Blossom Goodchild...you have a lot to answer for, thread ;D
I wonder if she'll go into hiding...or plea insanity? Maybe she'll say she was sent messages by the illuminati instead .....
Quote from: ziggystardust on October 14, 2008, 02:23:47 PM
If nothing happens, lets start a Blossom Goodchild...you have a lot to answer for, thread ;D
I wonder if she'll go into hiding...or plea insanity? Maybe she'll say she was sent messages by the illuminati instead .....
That's the best part about this, she does not have to go into hiding, who was channeling the messages to her, can anyone prove she was not receiving these messages, the thing about playing on the gullible is to go after their weakness, in most cases this tends to be their despair of this world, they want better(don't we all), history has shown through religion and other cults just how easy this is and just how easy it is to get away with.
Quote from: RunningBare on October 14, 2008, 02:32:40 PM
That's the best part about this, she does not have to go into hiding, who was channeling the messages to her, can anyone prove she was not receiving these messages, the thing about playing on the gullible is to go after their weakness, in most cases this tends to be their despair of this world, they want better(don't we all), history has shown through religion and other cults just how easy this is and just how easy it is to get away with.
Yeah, but the difference between a good prophet and a bad one is, a good one never specifies a date. :)
You can almost imagine a bunch of delinquent 'Spirits', channeling through to Blossom and claiming to be 'Cosmic' , what a hoot and a laugh they will be having.
This topic is a shame for overunity.com.
It gives peaple the possibility to write down there mental trash. WHAT A SHAME!
Quote from: supermike on October 14, 2008, 02:42:22 PM
Yeah, but the difference between a good prophet and a bad one is, a good one never specifies a date. :)
Yeah, but that's old, I wonder how many book sales goodchild had up to this date, and then there will be magazines wanting her story, it does not end there, she will continue to have followers long after this purchasing her books, keeping vigil on the sky, dreaming of a loving caring world, what they failed to see is that loving and caring are individual based, there will never be a world of absolute love and peace, adversity is what helps us to grow, take away those challenges and you might as well lay down and die.
Quote from: AlanA on October 14, 2008, 02:52:34 PM
This topic is a shame for overunity.com.
It gives peaple the possibility to write down there mental trash. WHAT A SHAME!
So, did anyone say this when Archer Quin was posting and accepting donations?, I'm willing to bet not.
I will no longer believe ANY channeling!
Today = "gros pétard mouillé"
Hi guys,
First, I want to remind all sincere ou'ers that there are people here who are paid hecklers. So, use discernment.
Second, since I have seen one or 2 ships with my own eyes, I don't need to see this ship. (good thing too, since it is almost always cloudy here!)
Third, The stated purpose of this ship's arrival is to show to the earth's people that there are indeed other people in the galaxy. So, it will NOT be a matter of "faith" and "belief" but a truth because it will be seen by everyone.
Therefore, it is for the so-called "nonbelievers" or at least the intelligent skeptics that they are supposed to be showing themselves.
Maybe even some of paid-hecklers will find it too astonishing to deny. (after all they only do it because they need money to survive too.)
In any case, I went to blossom's website yesterday and read all the channelings for the first time.
In a recent one, they said they would be here for as long as it takes for people to be able to see them. So, that may be a while. We do know the gov/banks and the religions doesn't want anyone to know this and they will do whatever they can to keep it from us. So, it may take a while for good photos to be available.
In a less recent one, they made it very clear that our military will do whatever it can to destroy the ship but their concern is for OUR safety, not theirs. They will need to keep OUR attacks on them from hurting US. (I think it is called crossfire?).
We who have been honestly working to find a useful form of free energy necessarily live 'outside the box'. We have been respectful of each other for as long as we have been posting. Lets keep it up.
I am sure these entities will allow us the thrill of inventing free energy devices on our own. I am also sure they are here to help all of us really see the lies- the barbed wire around our camp, so to speak.
thank you,
jeanna
Kirk: Mr. Sulu, what is the status of Z.Monkey's recon mission?
Sulu: He is scheduled to arrive in the Galileo Shuttlecraft in 6 hours, Sir...
Kirk: Very good, carry on...
Quote from: jeanna on October 14, 2008, 04:53:39 PM
Hi guys,
First, I want to remind all sincere ou'ers that there are people here who are paid hecklers.
jeanna
Sounds like a cushy job, where do I apply?
Quote from: RunningBare on October 14, 2008, 05:23:42 PM
Sounds like a cushy job, where do I apply?
Ask Captain Kirk he seems to know.
@Jeanna
You really need to take a few steps back from your current perspective. And look at it from outside your own box.
What you're saying sounds completely off the wall, and crazy to me, and most other people....
Lets say there is an alien ship and advanced civilization coming to earth in a few days and they do want everyone to know they're peaceful... they're plans, etc.
Are they really going to "channel" some messages to someone (who is guaranteed to look insane to 99.999 percent of the world population)
.. And leave it to this person to round up believers and spread the word? Probably not.
Think about it.
Even the people who do believe in the possibility of aliens will still think this person is nuts.
Some advanced aliens with a 2000 m lightship or whatever.. will most likely have the skills to takeover all TV channels, satelites, the internet, etc.. And stat their mission or whatever..
And to all the people who are still clinging on this thread, channeling, and extreme conspiracies.... You may want to go talk to a psychiatrist.. seriously.
If not .. at least have the courtesy to find a "federation of light" forum and talk about your beliefs there..
Quote from: newbie123 on October 14, 2008, 07:21:34 PM
@Jeanna
You really need to take a few steps back from your current perspective. And look at it from outside your own box.
What you're saying sounds completely off the wall, and crazy to me, and most other people....
Lets say there is an alien ship and advanced civilization coming to earth in a few days and they do want everyone to know they're peaceful... they're plans, etc.
Are they really going to "channel" some messages to someone (who is guaranteed to look insane to 99.999 percent of the world population)
.. And leave it to this person to round up believers and spread the word? Probably not.
Think about it.
Even the people who do believe in the possibility of aliens will still think this person is nuts.
Some advanced aliens with a 2000 m lightship or whatever.. will most likely have the skills to takeover all TV channels, satelites, the internet, etc.. And stat their mission or whatever..
And to all the people who are still clinging on this thread, channeling, and extreme conspiracies.... You may want to go talk to a psychiatrist.. seriously.
If not .. at least have the courtesy to find a "federation of light" forum and talk about your beliefs there..
newbie
Maybe you have it backwards.
Maybe our religions and schools have been teaching us lies about some basic truths about life .
Look how well the 99.999 percent have done .
How much longer do you think we can go on in the same way that we have been the last few hundred years?
What is the 99.999 percent doing about our energy problems?
What is your 99.999 percent doing about our environment .
What is your 99.999 percent doing about pollution ?
I am not part of your 99.999 percent and I wouldn't have it any other way.
gary
@Jeanna
::)
I have seen an UFO before but this thread is just crazy! There is no channeling!!!!!!
Jason
As I mentioned MUCH earlier in the thread, peoples hope does not come from the stars, but rather, from the Creator of the Heavens and Earth and he who put the stars in their place.
Looking for a message for mankind? Read Romans chapter 10, verses 9 and 10.
Cheers all,
Bruce
Quote from: 4Tesla on October 14, 2008, 08:35:09 PM
There is no channeling!!!!!!
4Tesla
There is no channeling FOR YOU .
Most of our religions teach that there is no way to receive spiritual truths except through them .
They they teach this because if they taught you to listen to God directly they would have no power over you.
There is a God .....and that God does communicate with us IF we are willing to listen .
Channeling is only one way that messages from the higher realms can reach us.
YOU can't receive any communication directly because you arn't willing to accept that it is possible for God to communicate with you.
The fact that you are unable to commune with God on some level doesn't mean that others can't .
gary
For those of you that enjoy Google Earth, I did get to see the house I was raised in. It still
had a dirt road out front and no tree. That would have made it > 30 years ago???? Makes me
wonder where that photo came from. Nah, cant be.....................
thaelin
Quote from: resonanceman on October 14, 2008, 07:46:12 PM
newbie
Maybe you have it backwards.
Maybe our religions and schools have been teaching us lies about some basic truths about life .
Look how well the 99.999 percent have done .
How much longer do you think we can go on in the same way that we have been the last few hundred years?
What is the 99.999 percent doing about our energy problems?
What is your 99.999 percent doing about our environment .
What is your 99.999 percent doing about pollution ?
I am not part of your 99.999 percent and I wouldn't have it any other way.
gary
Gary,
Maybe your glass is half empty. Why not look at the world from the half full side?
Lots of people are doing things to improve our world, professionally, and voluntarily.. And without religions our world probably a lot more depressed, etc. Why do you believe in every far fetched conspiracy story you read, yet doubt religious stories that have been around for thousands of years? Of course you can say religion was invented to control people, yada yada ... But that's just another conspiracy story.... and wild speculation.
newbie
the boogy man is coming
the boogy man is coming
;D
It's October 14th - Are they here yet?
Quote from: newbie123 on October 14, 2008, 09:47:35 PM
Gary,
Maybe your glass is half empty. Why not look at the world from the half full side?
Sorry I am not the one with the glass half empty .
You are the one that believes you can't channel .
Quote
Why do you believe in every far fetched conspiracy story you read,
I don't
I am aware that most people in our culture worship money and power .
Some of them are very good at getting money and power .
I see it more like an epidemic of greed more than conspiracy .
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yet doubt religious stories that have been around for thousands of years?
I prefer my truths from God to be fresh and geared to how my mind works .
I see no reason to look for truth that has been aged 2000 years and heavily edited by the church.
Why go for an old translation when God speaks to all that will listen.
gary
Quote from: resonanceman on October 14, 2008, 09:05:05 PM
YOU can't receive any communication directly because you arn't willing to accept that it is possible for God to communicate with you.
gary
Gee, like I never heard that excuse before, or "God moves in mysterious ways".
The only people that hear voices in their heads need medication.
Preach and rant all you want, but I for one can see that very slowly people are coming out of their ignorance and learning how things really work, even with 90% of the worlds population believing in one deity or another religion is beginning to lose it's foot hold as people become more educated in the way the universe works.
Quote from: Nihilanth on September 14, 2008, 12:13:25 AM
Quote from: z.monkey on September 13, 2008, 08:35:29 AM
You will be the ones that freak out when the Galactic Federation arrives, it will be beyond your brain's comprehension. You will panic and possibly seriously injure yourselves because of your emotional fear. There is still time for you to reach into your inner mind and understand what the love and light of GOD really is before the Galactic Federation arrives.
And when they don't come, I'll be laughing my ass off at you. I'll even record it for you. I'm not going to blindly believe aliens will arrive on a particular date because I saw a youtube video. When we do encounter aliens, and I know for a fact, that the people most accepted by them will be those who think calmly, rationally and don't blindly obey some organized religions boogyman.
Would you like the audio recording now, or how about I make a youtube video? Or should I just leave it up to your own imagination, like your light-ships and deities?
Quote from: newbie123 on October 14, 2008, 09:47:35 PM
Maybe your glass is half empty.
I prefer to think of my glass being half water, and half air. But mostly aether. :P
Quote from: RunningBare on October 15, 2008, 12:18:08 AM
Gee, like I never heard that excuse before, or "God moves in mysterious ways".
The only people that hear voices in their heads need medication.
Preach and rant all you want, but I for one can see that very slowly people are coming out of their ignorance and learning how things really work, even with 90% of the worlds population believing in one deity or another religion is beginning to lose it's foot hold as people become more educated in the way the universe works.
AMEN
Quote from: dingbat on October 14, 2008, 10:10:45 PM
It's October 14th - Are they here yet?
Sure. But they are microscopic and live only in the head of the ones who believe in them :-)
heii prophets where is f*g aliens ??
Quote from: RunningBare on October 15, 2008, 12:18:08 AM
Gee, like I never heard that excuse before, or "God moves in mysterious ways".
The only people that hear voices in their heads need medication.
Preach and rant all you want, but I for one can see that very slowly people are coming out of their ignorance and learning how things really work, even with 90% of the worlds population believing in one deity or another religion is beginning to lose it's foot hold as people become more educated in the way the universe works.
I agree. Well, how could we extract energy from god?
Should we place electrodes in the head of the believers?
Even if we get only few ma from each one, all believers in series should generate a very high spark, possibly hitting the moon.
There is still remaining problems: does the vacuum in the brain of many of them lead to break the circuit? could we put in series christians, muslims or hinduists without having polarity problems?...
There is a vast domain for experimenting.
:-)
lol this is too funny yet sad.
Kirk (irritated): Mr. Sulu, where is that recon mission.
Sulu: They are 5 hours late for the check in sir...
Krik: Damn it! Z.Monkey... (mumbles to himself: That was my favorite Shuttlecraft.)
Kirk: Lieutenant Uhura, try hailing the Galileo on all frequencies...
Uhura: Aye Sir...
Kirk: Mr. Spock, begin a planet wide search for the Galileo.
Spock: Aye Sir...
Krik: Mr. Checkov, break standard orbit and assume a search pattern...
Checkov: Aye Sir...
Kirk: Now, lets see if we can find Z.Monkey, and MY Shuttlecraft...
Quote from: resonanceman on October 14, 2008, 09:05:05 PM
4Tesla
There is no channeling FOR YOU .
Most of our religions teach that there is no way to receive spiritual truths except through them .
They they teach this because if they taught you to listen to God directly they would have no power over you.
There is a God .....and that God does communicate with us IF we are willing to listen .
Channeling is only one way that messages from the higher realms can reach us.
YOU can't receive any communication directly because you arn't willing to accept that it is possible for God to communicate with you.
The fact that you are unable to commune with God on some level doesn't mean that others can't .
gary
But in this case we see evidence that this was not God speaking, if you believe God has any real knowledge of the future at all.
In this case you have to admit the whole thing is Bullshit.
This is the kind of thing which gives God a bad name.
God did not predict this. God did not speak to anyone here. Get it right, Please.
If God had predicted it, then it would have happened.
This prediction was Bullshit spawned from a vivid imagination and delusions of grandeur, plain and simple. Let it go!
Crock of shit UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SaLuSa 15-October-2008
Dear Ones a high point has been achieved through the ongoing expectation of the arrival of the Forces of Light, and that is so important to the final outcome of First Contact. Having been presented with a firm announcement connected with the “Sighting†rather than a mere possibility; it has confronted many souls who were not ready for such an enormous event. The result has been a shock to their system, over and above the normal reaction to the many sightings that have been taking place with ever increasing regularity. With all of the confusion and chaos already making people tense and worried, yet another matter of mind wrenching capability has created a degree of tension that was not envisaged. In the interests of those people, the sighting has been curtailed for a short time until a more receptive response is registered.
The Lightworkers will understand that people’s wellbeing has always been first and uppermost in our consideration. As with other proposed major events that have been held back, the whole process of Ascension still moves forward. It will certainly be unaffected in any way by the change of course. Overall the Light has grown, and brought the facts of what is transpiring on and off Earth, to more people’s attention than ever before. In that respect there has been a gain for the Light, however it was never intended that an event planned with so much love and good intentions, should heighten people’s fears and confusion. Our decisions are always for the good of all, and it still remains true that there is a divine decree in place regarding the manner in which the end times are played out.
Now the focus returns for the time being on the next few months, during which many major and extremely important events are drawing to a conclusion. This is in accordance with the long held plan to remove the last cabal. Then, the mass consciousness will be even more receptive to the possibility of First Contact. What has been happening over the last few weeks, is that dear souls who have not previously given much thought to the existence of their Space Family, have felt compelled to wrestle with what it would mean to them. For some it has been extremely unsettling, and they clearly need yet more time to contemplate such an important issue. However, the seeds are sown and as further changes occur on Earth, so the possibility of contact with us will become more acceptable.
There is a fine line between our desire to contact you openly, and the reluctance of some of you to accept our presence and place in your lives, and indeed in your future. Our ways are not to force issues, but to try with immense patience to guide people’s thoughts into a new way of thinking. For quite some time messages of love and great encouragement have been presented to you. Their goal is to awaken you to the truth of your reality that you have created, and lift your consciousness to a much higher level of understanding. In that the messages have been remarkably successful, yet so many of Humankind have remained bogged down by the lower vibrations. Our desire would be to lift every single soul up, but we know that some are not ready to take such a step. That is as always a freewill choice, which will always be honoured.
It is not so much as you would say “back to the drawing board†but simply an adjustment to part of the plan to acquaint you with our presence, Bear in mind that at this stage, the “Sighting†was intended to make a final move that proved beyond doubt our existence. Whilst millions of you have seen our craft, and even Extraterrestrials a considerable number of times, these have been the ongoing contacts that have gradually brought a large degree of acceptance of us. To present a sighting such as was planned would leave little way out for those full of fear. Of course there is always going to be a certain degree of opposition to such an event, as the uninformed and dark forces will use every way possible to defeat our intentions. They cannot however achieve but only a temporary respite from our presence, and in the long run the plan for Man will manifest.
Nothing has really changed, and there is always a need to reappraise what we are planning. We do in fact constantly review our input into earthly affairs, and our caution is sometimes seen as inaction on our part. A few more days or weeks are really unimportant after thousands of years in duality. The most important factor above all else is the result of our presence, and our gentle nudging towards the path of Ascension. Our craft will continue to make their way across your skies as before, and that will remain as part of our ongoing plan to familiarise you with them and accept that they offer you no threat.
We would encourage you to look at the positive side of any event that seems on the face of it to be a failure. The “Sighting†has not gone ahead as planned, but because of the intent to prove our presence beyond doubt, it has opened more people’s minds and hearts. It signals the coming together of your civilisation and others that are truly your brothers and sisters from the stars. As always we keep tabs on what your dark forces are doing, and they continue to fall down the slippery path to oblivion. Their time is up, although they refuse to recognise it and obstinately hold onto their waning power.
A look at what is happening on your world shows that there have been great advancements for your release from the hold of the dark. Suddenly the plan for the initial changes that will start a whole ream of them is there to see. Allow for matters to play out, and then you will notice that our allies have managed to set the scene for a massive change in the way your financial set up works. Soon the abundance program will be able to commence, and your immediate worries will be short lived. It will be only the start of a whole series of changes that will not be able to be thwarted by the outgoing and defeated cabal.
I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and the Galactic Federation ask that you try to see what has happened where the “Sighting†has been concerned, and put it into perspective with everything else. Your future is assured, and although it may not be apparent, there has been much gain from the upliftment in people’s consciousness as a result of it. Please accept and feel our love for you all.
Thank you SaLuSa
Mike Quinsey
Howdy Shooter001,
Nice post, always good to hear from SaLuSa. You have to keep in mind that the GFL has stated over and over again that their time line is fluid and there are many prerequisites to presenting the ship. This is merely a delay. It is explained clearly in the SaLuSa update and in this Sirian Update...
http://www.paoweb.com/sn101408.htm
Blessed Be...
Selamat Jarin! We return with more to say about the ongoing events on your world. Right now, the secret conflict between the Light and the dark continues. A number of things have happened that give these dark ones some added resources, but these are of temporary duration. Everywhere, the need to curtail is showing itself. These things only add to the crescendo of chaos that is now engulfing your world. Behind this "white noise" is a group of very powerful families and individuals whose degree of personal panic matches the escalating chaos as they realize that there is no way out of this dilemma for them. Yet they pursue their futile, tunnel-vision course which can only briefly lengthen the time they have left to remain in power. Despite knowing this, these dark ones have chosen to play out these roles until the time of change arrives and knocks them from their lofty perches. Meanwhile our Earth allies are busy working the present financial crises and using them to complete the arrangements needed to accomplish this.
The moment when change is possible is not far off. Those at the top of the dark-oriented regimes know this as well. What remains to be done are some final legal details which are to formally end this current nightmare of yours and transform it into something grand. Keep in mind as you read this that the events now close to happening form the end of a nearly 13-millennia-long roller coaster ride for humanity. This "ride" allowed your ancestors and you to build up a vast mental, emotional, and spiritual database on the ways the dark and its cronies kept you in confusion and ignorance while using these conditions to manipulate you as they pleased. Now you are close to the point when you can cast off this dark mantle and gaze at last upon the true Light of the day. This Light will help you and allow you the wisdom to look at all this with fairness, and then turn it all over to Heaven. The key point here is not to judge or accuse, but rather to learn from it and allow the wisdom in each of you to grow, even as your Love for the manifesting new reality grows within you.
Above you, we continue to monitor everything closely, detailing our liaison and diplomatic corps to oversee all that transpires. It is vital for first contact that we use our expertise to guide our Earth allies and ask our fellow family in Inner Earth to join in when necessary. The divine plan shows that this world is getting very close to the time for the long-awaited moments to finally happen. This end game is reaching a point where some important precursor events can occur. The dark is putting on a good public face. However, behind the scenes these dark ones are informally contacting their former off-world allies and desperately asking for help, but to no avail. This lack of cooperation is a further sign to them of just how much their formerly unassailable position has deteriorated. Their rapidly decreasing maneuverability shows them that a great shift in this world is not far off, leaving them to wonder just how serious their future punishment might be. This prospect compels them to prolong the inevitable.
As this strange power game plays out, we are gaining more and more "allies." The old banking and financial system has thoroughly failed. The new system, proposed by the Basel II agreement and by a number of informally approved new currency directives, is pushing the dark cabalists out of power. As the new consciousness shift gains adherents, it is helping those who once aided the dark to come to their senses and give credence to our Earth allies' propositions. Also relevant here is the commitment of the first contact team to completing their mission as soon as divinely possible. New developments daily demonstrate the truth of what we say, inclining these new "allies" to join us and see for themselves just how close the reality shift is to manifesting on your world. The new reality gives these new allies some initial wriggle-room, but once we land they know that this world of seemingly intractable schisms will end. Then comes the day when humanity can at last live in prosperity, peace, and cooperation!
In this new world, you can start to become true stewards of Mother Earth. This involves more than being environmentally aware; it is more about perceiving Mother Earth as a living entity. Your earth sciences need to regard themselves as a planetary medical team whose purview comprises a single holistic purpose: to sustain and nurture Mother Earth's health. Such a team requires an interdisciplinary approach. Biology, geology, and geophysics need regular meetings to help each other to a better understanding of Mother Earth. This cross-pollination can begin the search for a new comprehensive paradigm for the sciences in general, which in turn can begin to form the prototypic base for a spiritual science. This foundation can be greatly upgraded by us after the landings. The important point here is that you begin this new approach and apply the technologies you possess to clean up and help maintain Mother Earth's well being.
As you start out on this path, jointly focused on such an immense project, you begin you see not only yourselves but also your reality in a very different way. Once underway, this project can be much expanded by our arrival. Our role is to simply take what you have begun and apply those elements that can allow you to complete what you started. In addition, we wish to introduce a new way of looking at reality which can answer questions that will inevitably arise within you. Human nature, as with all sentient Beings, possesses an innate need to explore and discover what makes things tick. This brings you to the whole subject of consciousness, including why you are here and your purpose in general. The answers to this and more will be found in the transition to full consciousness and in the amazing latent abilities you all possess.
It is for this reason that we refer to first contact as the most important watershed in your recorded history. Our landings end your quarantine on this planet. You move in a matter of months from being a planetary Being to a galactic one. We see this as the great return. You can them embrace your Inner Earth family and begin the journey of forging a new star nation. It is this new star nation that holds so much promise for us and for you. It is almost impossible, at this present moment, for you to get any sense at all of what is in front of you. All we can say is that this future of yours is filled with a most marvelous series of accomplishments. This is why Heaven waited so long before asking us to begin this present first contact mission. Now the time is fast approaching when your global mayhem is to be replaced, first by a brief transitional period and then climaxed by our arrival on your shores.
First contact is the final series of events that quickly leads you back to full consciousness. You have reached a point where a great deal of change is imminent. This involves not just structural change but a transformation in the way you view reality and yourselves. Much is being thrown at you now, and it is important for you to remain centered and focused on the prize that is your return to full consciousness. Consider all the wondrous events in store for you and the sneak peeks that our ships provide. Many of you are witnessing our ships and snapping photos of us that prove to a much wider global audience that we are real. This evidence joins the chorus of scientists and astronauts who maintain that we are here for a truly beneficial and uplifting purpose!
Today, we talked about what is happening on your world and gave you a brief exposition of the momentums behind recent events. We wish to repeat one critical point: Stay in joy, and concentrate on that most magnificent event: your return to full consciousness! We now leave. Know, dear Ones, in your Heart of Hearts that the countless Supply and never-ending Prosperity of Heaven are Yours! So Be It! Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!)
:D yeah it bee deleyed forewer :D this medium is grafoman .. typing such crap in such big quantities
Hey thanks shooter for posting the initial info that started this never-ending thread AND for finding the
"cop out" follow up less than halfway thru their 3-day window. ::)
I found some updated channel info...
DiMentia 15-October-2008
Dear saps er... children of light (yeah that's better), we have decided to scrub the mission because as usual our points of first contact can't properly decipher our advanced communication. We will await a time when our technology allows us to communicate by what would be considered "conventional" by your unenlightened selves.
Too bad you couldn't see our ship, painted in colors to avoid photographic evidence. (not to mention the light blue Pegasian flight attendants) I bring you nothing but further proof that you are on your own (but hey, you get to keep the MOON, imagine how many songs would lose meaning without that). I pass on word from the highest levels of the Ashtar Command...
In a word: PSYCH!
I am DiMentia from Uranis... and My messages will continue to pollute the internet long after this 3 day window has closed... But please keep wearing the foil hats, they work as antennae to help us read your mind better.
Thanks a bunch DiMentia
:P
Anyone who continues to support this ridiculous premise after today is a moron to be laughed at with impunity.
Howdy Y'all,
This is from October 8, 2008 so probably not the ship we are looking for, but related.
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/bizarre&id=6438701
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on October 15, 2008, 06:47:42 AM
Howdy Y'all,
This is from October 8, 2008 so probably not the ship we are looking for, but related.
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/bizarre&id=6438701
Blessed Be...
Well there you have it. Conclusive proof if I never saw it. Funny how they have disguised themselves to look like thin red circles. Very clever.
Quote from: supermike on October 15, 2008, 05:38:46 AM
But in this case we see evidence that this was not God speaking, if you believe God has any real knowledge of the future at all.
In this case you have to admit the whole thing is Bullshit.
This is the kind of thing which gives God a bad name.
God did not predict this. God did not speak to anyone here. Get it right, Please.
If God had predicted it, then it would have happened.
This prediction was Bullshit spawned from a vivid imagination and delusions of grandeur, plain and simple. Let it go!
Supermike, These people talk about god but its not the God we know. If you listen to our government talk, they also talk about god but its not the God we know again. Its a programming of the people to learn a new language and a new religion. Way back when I was young this UFO's had me going also. I believed that they were real and I tried to find everything I could on them. It was not until I started studying the Bible and got some real knowledge that I learned that this was not so. The Bible even states that some people would believe a lie over the truth far more. All this bull is brought on by man. Our government officials are into an occult. Search for these. Bohemian Grove. Skull and Bones. Club of Rome. This list would be too big for me to furnish all of them but from these you can get more.
The UFO's are identified and they are not of this world. They are fallen angles that the Bible talks about or Demons. This is the god that these people talk about and try to lead the people into thinking it is THE God. If you do some research on Project Blue Book, you will find some information that I think was when this all started with our government. Now we have Project Blue Beam. This is a most interesting project that can project holograms into space that can image anything. I know a military person that has seen this tested. Now research Remote Viewing. Our military is into this and they use it to view people at great distances for war, supposedly. This is also using an occult
method. I also know a person that he got out of this but his mind is not right from this. If you notice in there writings, No one uses the word Jesus. Its always god. This is to throw people off track on who the real God is. Remember the story of Baal and Elijah. 1Kings 18:25.
The Real Truth will set you free but if people wants to believe a lie then they will and they will follow Baal.
oo this two litle dots is 2000 mile ufo :D eh som child drop balons again .
please stop posting this bluri litle something and other shity craps... now every litle dot in the sky is ufo wow
Quote from: resonanceman on October 14, 2008, 09:05:05 PM
Channeling is only one way that messages from the higher realms can reach us.
...and some pretty silly realms as well. That is the problem. you don't know
who you are dealing with.
Howdy Y'all,
Here's a new update from Mark Kimmel...
http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Marks_Corner/
Blessed Be...
BTW, kensmith52, Christ Sananda is Jesus Christ....
Wednesday, October 15, 2008
Interim Time
I have not posted anything to this site for the past week because I traveled to Florida to facilitate a Gathering weekend. For a brief time, those who came together experienced what it was like to engage in unconditional love. As one person said, “This is what it will be like to exist after we have transitioned.†Together we learned about the truth behind our consensual reality, shared our experiences, and discovered what we as individuals can do. I will be facilitating additional Gatherings as time permits. If you are interested in attending a Gathering, please contact me at cp@zqyx.org.
A reminder: The postings here are the result of information I receive from our brothers and sisters of the distant star systems, from celestials and spirit beings, and from an earlier incarnation. The information will disclose the positive and negative influences that surround current events, as well as providing historical background from those who were present at pivotal moments in our history. From time to time we will include activities of beings materialized on this planet who are behind the scenes orchestrating events. Much of what I will disclose is taking place at a higher dimension, so only those of that density are capable of accurately depicting it for us.
These posting are indexed for easy cross-reference. Some of these posting will make more sense to readers of my published books. These books, and other important titles, are available on this web site at http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Recommended_Books.html Current events from around the globe are also reported on this site at http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/ufonews/
I am honored to be a part of this revelation, and stand in awe of current events on my home planet, Earth, and the massive amount of attention directed toward mankind.
The following information was provided to me on 10/15/08. This is my 10th posting to Mark’s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order.
You have learned that everything is frequency. That which is physical is energy assembled into matter. The physical is a reflection of that which is imagined in the non-physical. All the ships of the armada are living organisms, created by the intention of those who wish to have such a ship. For us, the process is quite magical. We intend to have such a magnificent craft and then we grow it to our specifications. If it is a giant craft, it requires the intention of many to materialize it. Each of our craft is a conscious entity that volunteers to serve us.
If we wish to make one of our craft appear in your density it is quite easy to create a hologram of it and project this hologram into your reality. When our initial appearance is made, any day now, that is the way in which it will be done. It will appear to be very real to those of you on the ground, but it will not be a living organism.
Everything material is like a hologram, constructed by focusing light in a way as to condense it into matter. You are not able, with your current minds and science, to appreciate how this is done. It does not matter, that is the way in which it happens.
The great planet upon which you exist was created in this way. She was created by God to serve as the stage upon which a great drama would take place. Being a conscious entity, like all created entities, she agreed to this task. This drama of the dark energy and the energy of light is now entering its final hour.
Energy influences everything. You are now feeling the shift in energy. It is affecting your physical bodies. It is affecting the temperament of people. It is causing people to choose how they will present themselves in these final moments.
There is always a choice, a choice between attachment to that which is familiar, that which is traditional, that which your five senses can tough, smell, or feel, or a choice to follow our leading to a higher way of being, a lighter way, a way to a higher frequency. All of us on the giant star ships exist at a higher frequency, not much higher but high enough that your physical senses, or the sensors of your science, cannot readily detect them.
The frequency of this planet, Earth, is very slow due to the presence of so much darkness, so much fear. The darkness has dragged you into an existence of “swimming†in very dense water.
We will raise the frequency of this planet. Raise it to the level where we exist. We still have structures. We still have form for our bodies. We still have the need to take nourishment. However we are not as attached to the physical as are you. To raise you to our frequency will take some time. This is what we call the “interim time.†You have been experiencing it for several years now. As the frequency rises, the institution created by mankind will melt away. This is what is happening to the economy; it is melting away.
Those behind the scenes recognize this is new territory. See how quickly they scurry to find a larger power to assist them. Creating money out of nothing is their solution. It shows the façade of the entire economy, an economy created out of nothing. Yes there is a real need for products and services, but the way in which the economy delivers them is a façade. It is a clever façade created by those who would suck the energy of the populace for their own benefit. So we are back to energy once again.
You are feeling the energies of the dismantling of the structures of mankind. These will be disorienting. They will continue, becoming more intense. Flow with them; do not resort to fear.
Prepare for the interim time by storing that which you will need to survive for a short time. We will not prolong this transition beyond your ability to survive. You will be given all types of assistance as the energies shift further.
However, do not believe that the end product of this energy shift will be a completely new world, a heaven on earth. Nothing like that will occur overnight. It will take many years to fully shift this planet and her people into our density. There is much to be learned for everyone as the shift is taking place.
Begin to see all as energy, as frequency. If everything is frequency, then everything can be changed by mere desire to do so, by intent, by willing it to happen. What is your intent for the interim time?
I am Breton of Andromeda. I bid you good by until our next communication. All aboard our starcraft send their love to our brothers and sisters on the planet.
That’s it for today folks. Now that I am back home, I will post more frequently. Stay tuned.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
Quote from: exnihiloest on October 15, 2008, 02:43:34 AM
Sure. But they are microscopic and live only in the head of the ones who believe in them :-)
…and they dig and dig restless, all the time. Really deep and pretty fast too!
FE finally found? ;D
Good day,
Let us put this into prospective; if a 2000-mile wide object were to breach our atmosphere it would destroy a large number of satellites possibly even taking out Hubble or The International Space Station.
http://www.heavens-above.com (http://www.heavens-above.com)
Furthermore an object of this size would have some adverse effect on the earth and moon’s orbital trajectory possibly tugging us closer to the sun, this would speed up global worming, or tugging us away from the sun causing a much colder global climate.
http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn8291.html (http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn8291.html)
The ocean tides would rise up and cause major flooding and death if a 2000-mile object even got close to the earth.
Recipe for disaster!
End of subject…
Howdy PhiScience,
Your theory would work if this ship was a physical ship, but being a LightShip from a higher Density it doesn't affect physical matter in this way. The only part of this ship that we will see on the physical plane is a hologram which conforms to the shape of the 5th Density LightShip. Think about higher realms of physicality. They are an order of magnitude above us in their fundamental frequency. Normally 5th Density matter is invisible and intangible to 3rd Density beings. The ship is already there, among many, many others, but they are invisible and intangible to 3rd Density beings (us).
Understanding takes time...
Blessed Be...
Go read Fallen Watchers by Jason Guenther -
An Exegetical Analysis On The Correlations Between Biblical Demonology And Contemporary Ufology
http://www.ryanmcginty.com/fallen/
You can find it on google also, it's an interesting read, quite long but something I think everyone that's in to this sort of thing or looking in to this should read.
Howdy Fast,
Thanks, that article looks intriguing.
Blessed Be...
Quote from: kensmith52 on October 15, 2008, 07:50:26 AM
Supermike, These people talk about god but its not the God we know. If you listen to our government talk, they also talk about god but its not the God we know again. Its a programming of the people to learn a new language and a new religion. Way back when I was young this UFO's had me going also. I believed that they were real and I tried to find everything I could on them. It was not until I started studying the Bible and got some real knowledge that I learned that this was not so. The Bible even states that some people would believe a lie over the truth far more. All this bull is brought on by man. Our government officials are into an occult. Search for these. Bohemian Grove. Skull and Bones. Club of Rome. This list would be too big for me to furnish all of them but from these you can get more.
The UFO's are identified and they are not of this world. They are fallen angles that the Bible talks about or Demons. This is the god that these people talk about and try to lead the people into thinking it is THE God. If you do some research on Project Blue Book, you will find some information that I think was when this all started with our government. Now we have Project Blue Beam. This is a most interesting project that can project holograms into space that can image anything. I know a military person that has seen this tested. Now research Remote Viewing. Our military is into this and they use it to view people at great distances for war, supposedly. This is also using an occult
method. I also know a person that he got out of this but his mind is not right from this. If you notice in there writings, No one uses the word Jesus. Its always god. This is to throw people off track on who the real God is. Remember the story of Baal and Elijah. 1Kings 18:25.
The Real Truth will set you free but if people wants to believe a lie then they will and they will follow Baal.
There is nothing in the Bible that states we are the only Humans or Lifeform.
There is nothing in the Bible that says there are no UFO's
On the contrary find Ezekiel 1:16 the Statement of a Wheel within a Wheel.
Further I quote know all of the theories that Adam and Eve (I even know about Lilith) were the very first two humans upon this Earth but there is a word in the Bible that does not sit well with this theory and is damn near cotradictory in this matter. That word would be "REPLENISH" as from The Holy Bible in Genesis 1:27-28:
"27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."
In order to RE-PLENISH something it had to be plenished before. For example how do you refill your glass of soda if it were not filled prevously?!? How do you REPLENISH something that has never been plenished (yes it is a real word, look it up if you cannot take my word for it or look it up ).
So tell mee, if the Bible is the infallable Word of God and God says to REPLENISH the Earth to Adam and Eve, does that not state that there was human life here BEFORE Adam and Eve and that life is all gone (or very close to it) and now it is up to Adam and Eve to REPLENISH this formerly plenished world? If this is to much of a denial of all you've been taught and believe can you ATLEAST admit that it is POSSIBLE?
I am a Christian and believe in God despite too many unanswered riddles.
professor
Quote from: z.monkey on October 15, 2008, 11:41:59 AM
Howdy PhiScience,
Your theory would work if this ship was a physical ship, but being a LightShip from a higher Density it doesn't affect physical matter in this way. The only part of this ship that we will see on the physical plane is a hologram which conforms to the shape of the 5th Density LightShip. Think about higher realms of physicality. They are an order of magnitude above us in their fundamental frequency. Normally 5th Density matter is invisible and intangible to 3rd Density beings. The ship is already there, among many, many others, but they are invisible and intangible to 3rd Density beings (us).
Understanding takes time...
Blessed Be...
ahhh ghost ships, thats why i didn't see any yesterday or today...
Excellent Professor,
Biblical proof of civilizations prior to this modern one...
When we go back and reexamine what we already have in this new light the truth shall unfold before our eyes...
Blessed Be...
the bible is NOT the infallible word of god, it is in FACT the fallible word of men.
interesting that you bring up genesis though, why in a largely monotheistic book does it say the "SONS of the GODS"?
Uhura: The Galileo is not responding Sir...
Kirk: Mr. Spock, what have you got?
Spock: There is nothing conclusive on the scans Sir...
Spock: It is as though the Galileo was transported out of this star system...
Kirk: How can that be, the Shuttlecraft doesn't have a warp drive.
Spock: The Shuttlecraft may have been destroyed, or captured by another vessel.
Kirk: Mr. Sulu are there any other vessels in this sector?
Sulu: No Sir...
Kirk: Mr. Spock... What are our options...
Wow i can see it, if i close my eyes and start banging my head on the padded walls, the only reason i cant punch the walls is because my hands are tied with this straight jacket.
Ive just registerd with this site and it states for the user agreement that nothing unlawfull will be wrote.....
you lot are Bonkers.....
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on October 15, 2008, 01:10:00 PM
the bible is NOT the infallible word of god, it is in FACT the fallible word of men.
interesting that you bring up genesis though, why in a largely monotheistic book does it say the "SONS on the GODS"?
Well it dont say that in the hebrew text nor in the Fallen Watchers article, however to answer your question it's a problem you get when people with different world views and languages translate the bible.
Pick up the King James version and look how different the new translations are, no wonder people get confused.
Hope this answer helps
actually it does say just that. the phrase is "benei ha-elohim" in the hebrew text.
good point about the king james bastardization of the text though. hundreds of years of translation, transliteration, interpretation, interpolation, etc. have obfuscated it beyond any semblance of the original. the king james version is a joke.
Kings was brought up earlier... why does god support lying? and why does he collude with satan? of course satan is not specifically named...
Kings 22:19-22:
19 And Micaiah said, "Therefore hear the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing beside him on his right hand and on his left; 20 and the LORD said, ‘Who will entice Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?’ And one said one thing, and another said another. 21 Then a spirit came forward and stood before the LORD, saying, ‘I will entice him.’ 22 And the LORD said to him, ‘By what means?’ And he said, ‘I will go forth, and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ And he said, ‘You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go forth and do so.’
so god hangs out with satan, and colludes with his deceit...
Quote from: resonanceman on October 14, 2008, 10:50:22 PM
Sorry I am not the one with the glass half empty .
You are the one that believes you can't channel .
I'm not saying people can't channel, I don't know.. .. All I'm saying is why not keep this channeling/religious chat out of OU.com?
Do you really like it when the Jehovah witnesses coming knocking on your door?
Quote from: professor on October 15, 2008, 12:56:03 PM
There is nothing in the Bible that states we are the only Humans or Lifeform.
There is nothing in the Bible that says there are no UFO's
On the contrary find Ezekiel 1:16 the Statement of a Wheel within a Wheel.
Further I quote know all of the theories that Adam and Eve (I even know about Lilith) were the very first two humans upon this Earth but there is a word in the Bible that does not sit well with this theory and is damn near cotradictory in this matter. That word would be "REPLENISH" as from The Holy Bible in Genesis 1:27-28:
"27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."
In order to RE-PLENISH something it had to be plenished before. For example how do you refill your glass of soda if it were not filled prevously?!? How do you REPLENISH something that has never been plenished (yes it is a real word, look it up if you cannot take my word for it or look it up ).
So tell mee, if the Bible is the infallable Word of God and God says to REPLENISH the Earth to Adam and Eve, does that not state that there was human life here BEFORE Adam and Eve and that life is all gone (or very close to it) and now it is up to Adam and Eve to REPLENISH this formerly plenished world? If this is to much of a denial of all you've been taught and believe can you ATLEAST admit that it is POSSIBLE?
I am a Christian and believe in God despite too many unanswered riddles.
professor
Just depends on the translation of the Bible you choose to use. Most, except King James have it as:
"fill the earth"
i love it when the jehovahs stop by, they don't know jack about the book they purport to be their salvation. let them talk themselves into a corner.
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on October 15, 2008, 01:52:06 PM
actually it does say just that. the phrase is "benei ha-elohim" in the hebrew text.
good point about the king james bastardization of the text though. hundreds of years of translation, transliteration, interpretation, interpolation, etc. have obfuscated it beyond any semblance of the original. the king james version is a joke.
Kings was brought up earlier... why does god support lying? and why does he collude with satan? of course satan is not specifically named...
Kings 22:19-22:
19 And Micaiah said, "Therefore hear the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing beside him on his right hand and on his left; 20 and the LORD said, ‘Who will entice Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?’ And one said one thing, and another said another. 21 Then a spirit came forward and stood before the LORD, saying, ‘I will entice him.’ 22 And the LORD said to him, ‘By what means?’ And he said, ‘I will go forth, and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ And he said, ‘You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go forth and do so.’
so god hangs out with satan, and colludes with his deceit...
It's a pain to not know hebrew, I have done some reading and courage other to do the same, and as always it's more to it than what's first seen.
You need to understand that God uses evil to do his work also, so that his people will turn back to him.
Otherwise they and many more probably end up in hell for their sins.
Everyone have a free will, the will to choose to be with the creator for eternity or to spend eternity without him. When all that is good comes from God and you choose to be with him there is no bad things. However take away God and all good goes with him, what's left is bad and that's hell for you.
If you have Jesus and the Father God, don't that make them Gods, there are some different translations here and the most common one are "sons of god" but as I said earlier I courage others to do some reaserch.
Ok folks,
it's october 15th one day after the predicted alien arrival.
My question: Who are they.
Or is it my mistake: I am blind and I can't see them?
I think this subject in this forum has begun an idiots.
But please call me if the come!!!
Quote from: AlanA on October 15, 2008, 02:34:49 PM
Ok folks,
it's october 15th one day after the predicted alien arrival.
My question: Who are they.
Or is it my mistake: I am blind and I can't see them?
I think this subject in this forum has begun an idiots.
But please call me if the come!!!
I showed this earlier here, but this sums it up nicely I think.
Go read Fallen Watchers by Jason Guenther
http://www.ryanmcginty.com/fallen/
Nothing good have come from these, just look at all the false "gods" that have come and been worshipped trough history by many ancient civilizations, every single one are gone today just ruins left.
They didn't help a bit, galactic con artists that's who they are.
@shooter001, z.monkey, and jeanna
Time to get on some meds.. seriously. I hope you get some help.. talk to your doctor and get some counseling.. nothing to be ashamed of.
Jason
Quote from: newbie123 on October 15, 2008, 02:01:23 PM
I'm not saying people can't channel, I don't know.. .. All I'm saying is why not keep this channeling/religious chat out of OU.com?
Do you really like it when the Jehovah witnesses coming knocking on your door?
You can always politely refuse to listen to the J.W.,
if you have no Interest in the Subject Matter
So why are you on this tread?
You must obviously enjoy reading it.
Or are you just here to criticize folks?
Or are you trying to tell Stefan how to run this forum?
Or are you just a miserable nagger?
professor
;)
Hello I have just seen a couple of videos at http://10-14-08.blogspot.com/
and I think that those of you who are irretated should take a look at!
Cheers!
One more thing for those of you that don't want to read a lot to get up to speed about Fallen Watchers, there are some good audio interviews on http://www.stevequayle.com/Q-Files_2hr.specials.html
with Tom Horn.
Have a listen to the interview "Thur 9.4 Guest Tom Horn, topic: Alien Agenda & Stargates, Hr. 1"
Deals with the human / animal genetic crossings going on and much more about this whole space brother, sister deception.
The 14th has come and gone and they are still talking shit. Will it ever end? I guess not.
Hans von Lieven
"Your theory would work if this ship was a physical ship"
I don't get to say this often when dealing with matters of physics...but you are dead wrong Z. :)
That theory would also not apply to ships which create their own electromagnetic field, and are not subject to gravity.
Regards...
OK, I'm done... Lock the thread...
shooter should have the honor of last post in the thread...
the 2000 mile size was initially quoted by shooter, in the first message to Blossom Goodweed, the phrase "large ship" was used, not tied down to any particular geometry...
There are other fish to fry in this forum, that's why we're all here, remember?
God helps those that help themselves.
*** back to the basement lab***
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The forum needs a memory hole for threads like these. Then we can all go home, drink some victory gin, write our thoughts down in an illegal notepad and watch(and be watched by) the telescreen for a while.
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 15, 2008, 05:21:57 PM
The 14th has come and gone and they are still talking shit. Will it ever end? I guess not.
Hans von Lieven
And I'm pissed!
I was hoping to not have to take apart the carburator on my lawn mower today. I thought I could sit in my comfy chair and watch CNN coverage of the big alien craft, BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Now my fingers smell like gasoline, and I have to watch another stupid debate tonight because the only big thing that happened was the stock market going down another 700 points.
Where is the justice, I ask you?
Pax upon you,
Maha Alabama Sunshine Creampuff
Quote from: What_The_Flux on October 15, 2008, 08:29:52 PM
And I'm pissed!
I was hoping to not have to take apart the carburator on my lawn mower today.
Pax upon you,
Maha Alabama Sunshine Creampuff
Kirk: (daydreaming in the Captains Chair) That reminds me of life on... Earth...
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 15, 2008, 05:21:57 PM
The 14th has come and gone and they are still talking shit. Will it ever end? I guess not.
Hans von Lieven
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hello All,
I have silently watched the proceedings here and at other spots on the internet.
First... I admit to being optimistic in regard to the human race realizing we are not alone at some point in our future.
Hans, (my Brothers name also) and others submitting negative comments, I issue a challenge.
From known and accepted science ...
1. Estimate the number of stars in our galaxy ( as well as get a grip on it's age as well as our own ).
2. Calculate how long it would take to visit each star for one second each... continuously.
(that is... 60 stars would equal 1 minute worth of time)
3. Calculate the probability that we are the only intelligent life in this galaxy.
4. Contemplate where our technology would be in 100 years... 1000 years....10,000 years... 100,000 years...
1 million years... blah... blah... 1 billion years !
5. Agree or Disagree with this statement...
"At some point in time the human race will come into contact with other beings from our galaxy."
(note... more advanced civilizations by default would be the visitors)
If you allow yourselves to contemplate the answers to these questions... I am sure you will agree with #5
May the Light be with You,
The Observer
P.S. Any who remember me from my posts about Magnetic Permeability... an update.
I have found that the resonant frequency of a transformer (2 coils and a ferromagnetic core)
is akin to hooking a mouth piece up to a French Horn.
In basic terms, I have realized that the right combination of form and frequency amplifies energy naturally.
It is done with almost every musical instrument and can be done with a transformer (at a very specific frequency).
If I didn't know better, I would say that fits the term "inherently runs with gain", yes?
thaelin
Quote from: The Observer on October 16, 2008, 01:25:35 AM
Hello All,
P.S. Any who remember me from my posts about Magnetic Permeability... an update.
I have found that the resonant frequency of a transformer (2 coils and a ferromagnetic core)
is akin to hooking a mouth piece up to a French Horn.
In basic terms, I have realized that the right combination of form and frequency amplifies energy naturally.
It is done with almost every musical instrument and can be done with a transformer (at a very specific frequency).
The Observer,
QuoteIn basic terms, I have realized that the right combination of form and frequency amplifies energy naturally.
The right form and frequency releases energy that is in a magnetic field that makes up a atom. Energy can never be amplified unless a greater energy source is applied. Energy can not be created unless a energy source is used to create it and a greater energy source can not be created by the same or less energy used to create it. However, a energy source can be used to release energy that is stored in magnetic fields but we have to learn how to attract that energy and store it in a user friendly storage unit like a battery.
I just got an update from the GFL.... As Follows.
Selamat Jarin! We are sorry that we did not arrive at the specified time and location. As we approached Dear Ones, We noticed the markets in turmoil and decided to passover the trip as our investments in the markets would not have proved fruitful. And hey, An alien has to think about his future.
CMDR. Buzz Lightyear -.Galactic Federation of Lending.
:D :D :D :D :D :D
I am convinced that aliens have arrived but not because we have turned the invisibility and we are looking to get off deciding whether
or return home. ::) ::)
hi all
leo48
I vote to rename the thread, "Crock Of Sh*t for Dumb Lemmings and Bible Bashers"
Honestly this has to be the most amusing thread on the OU forum, totally off topic and full of conjecture and dumb outdated beliefs.
I laugh in the face of all the people who think this has, is, or will ever happen in the lifetime of our planet.
Quote from: The Observer on October 16, 2008, 01:25:35 AM
Hello All,
I have silently watched the proceedings here and at other spots on the internet.
First... I admit to being optimistic in regard to the human race realizing we are not alone at some point in our future.
Hans, (my Brothers name also) and others submitting negative comments, I issue a challenge.
From known and accepted science ...
1. Estimate the number of stars in our galaxy ( as well as get a grip on it's age as well as our own ).
2. Calculate how long it would take to visit each star for one second each... continuously.
(that is... 60 stars would equal 1 minute worth of time)
3. Calculate the probability that we are the only intelligent life in this galaxy.
4. Contemplate where our technology would be in 100 years... 1000 years....10,000 years... 100,000 years...
1 million years... blah... blah... 1 billion years !
5. Agree or Disagree with this statement...
"At some point in time the human race will come into contact with other beings from our galaxy."
(note... more advanced civilizations by default would be the visitors)
If you allow yourselves to contemplate the answers to these questions... I am sure you will agree with #5
May the Light be with You,
The Observer
I don't think any one of the intelligent people around here is so arrogant to assume that we are the only intelligent life form in that enormity out there.
But this is not what this idiotic thread is or was all about.
Logic would seem to dictate that if there was such a thing as the Galactic Federation of Light that took an interest in our planet and wanted to steer us in a better direction they would be a little more discerning in the choice of their ambassadors.
Any so called civilisation that would pick such a collection of lunatics as we have seen in this thread claiming to speak for them as their representatives would not be able to put together a wheel, not to mention spaceships.
Hans von Lieven
Another disappointment for The Gullibles.
Next please!
ERS
Ok you can lock this thread and we can finish it with a link to blossom goodchilds explanation.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rm4v8ylAxTc
Quote from: shooter001 on October 16, 2008, 07:47:03 AM
Ok you can lock this thread and we can finish it with a link to blossom goodchilds explanation.
Where does your *&^$#@ persistence come from? Don't you realise that you and alikes are DEFINITELY markes as clowns? If you say anything, FIRST and foremost you should grovel, while begging for mercy and apologising for this nonsense about your "channels" and "aliens" coming down to earth.
You have nothing of value to say. 14 October proved that abundantly.
Surely even you realise how silly you appear now and how pointless is anything you might want to say in the future. Your credibility is zero. It doesn't exist. Even my drunken neighbour has more interesting things to say.
Time to check in, if you get my drift.
Quote from: z.monkey on October 15, 2008, 07:03:00 PM
OK, I'm done... Lock the thread...
You were done long time ago. It was about fricken time you notice that. Now go and fill your sorry existence with those pills your mother left for you in that plastic dispenser on the kitchen table. And keep quiet, or I'll send the evil shmuck-a-dick from Sirius (that is a star, for those "aliens are coming" type idiots who think forms of life actually live there) to take you into the open space where you will be able to ponder how come these "loving" creatures of the "light" stuffed you YET AGAIN and did not turn up.
By the way, don't you people get tired at some point for being lied to by those manipulative freaks who "love" you so much? I mean, they make you look like crazy, you know?
(just kidding. You are.)
??? I just got this from Blossom's website:
"Greetings from the planet Gobbledigoop. We are a race of pink and purple polkadotted miniature elephants. We call our selves the Whishywashies. We come in peace. We are scheduled to land in a place called San Antonio, Texas. The Alamo will be our new home. Do not be alarmed at our comings and goings, for we, like we stated before, come in peace." --END OF TRANSMISSION--
Shame on ANY of you, if you actually go to Blossom's site to check if the above is true.
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 16, 2008, 08:14:50 AM[...] pointless is anything you might want to say in the future.
I'm speechless at your seeming lack of understanding of logic (even though you imply to invoke this principle for yourself)...
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 16, 2008, 08:45:06 AMAnd keep quiet, [...]
...and your treatment of free speech (even though you seem to be using it for yourself extensively).
It's not that anybody was forced to read this thread (as far as I'm aware of, anyways)...
Quote from: The Observer on October 16, 2008, 01:25:35 AM
P.S. Any who remember me from my posts about Magnetic Permeability... an update.
I have found that the resonant frequency of a transformer (2 coils and a ferromagnetic core)
is akin to hooking a mouth piece up to a French Horn.
In basic terms, I have realized that the right combination of form and frequency amplifies energy naturally.
It is done with almost every musical instrument and can be done with a transformer (at a very specific frequency).
You should spend less time on shite like this and more time reading Tesla
Well we can still believe in the flying spaghetti monster..
Quote from: orbs on October 16, 2008, 09:16:12 AM
I'm speechless at your seeming lack of understanding of logic (even though you imply to invoke this principle for yourself)...
...and your treatment of free speech (even though you seem to be using it for yourself extensively).
It's not that anybody was forced to read this thread (as far as I'm aware of, anyways)...
Orbs
It is pointless at this time to try to try to ask the people that choose to be ugly to try to be nice.
The 14th has come and gone . No ship .
Blossum has stated she has no excuse and no answers .
Those that choose to be ugly have as good of an excuse to be ugly as they will ever get .
The simple fact is ......it has nothing to do with anyone else . Those that choose to be ugly wil find excuses to be ugly .
Those that choose to come from love will continue to come from love .
One thing I can say for sure about Blossum is that she does come from a place of love within.
Yes she was wrong . But she did what she did with the honest desire to help the world .
I have great respect for her for that .
I also have great respect for her because she didn't make excuses .
All things have in them the potential for both good and bad.
One good thing about this visit failing is that it makes it easy to see what kind of people we are..
Are you a loving person that tries to help others when they fall?
Or are you a hateful person that tends to kick people when they are down just because you can get away with it .
gary
My reading of the reaction to this non-event is that it was simply a cry of anguish from those most desperate to be 'saved', despite the protestation of dis-belief to the contrary! Personally, I was surprised that something didn't happen after such a build-up - dissappointed? sure, but hey, the run-up sure felt good, and it isn't as if this was a food-transport to a starving planet or anything - in otherwords, life goes on!
If anything, it just highlights the need for self-reliance, and the absolute need for discernment when it comes to 'channelled' information...
shooter001, Z-monkey, resonanceman, Cap-Z-ro, orbs, Sprocket, the observer and a few others,
thank you for this wonderful thread!
for those with an open mind it was an enrichment and contributed to higher consciousness.
for those who only insulted and ridiculed it is beyond their comprehension, and they couldn't stand people talking about a subject of which they do not have a clue.
If every thread would be disturbed like this, there would be no forum.....
this is certainly not the end of the subject, only the beginning.
Quote from: resonanceman on October 16, 2008, 10:35:44 AM
Blossum has stated she has no excuse and no answers .
Those that choose to be ugly have as good of an excuse to be ugly as they will ever get .
The simple fact is ......it has nothing to do with anyone else . Those that choose to be ugly wil find excuses to be ugly .
Those that choose to come from love will continue to come from love .
One thing I can say for sure about Blossum is that she does come from a place of love within.
Yes she was wrong . But she did what she did with the honest desire to help the world .
I have great respect for her for that .
I also have great respect for her because she didn't make excuses .
All things have in them the potential for both good and bad.
One good thing about this visit failing is that it makes it easy to see what kind of people we are..
Are you a loving person that tries to help others when they fall?
Or are you a hateful person that tends to kick people when they are down just because you can get away with it .
gary
Beauty they say is in the eye of the beholder, I personally do not want a world of love and peace, do not misunderstand, I like love, I like peace, adversity is something we require to grow, a world of ultimate love and peace would be akin to not exercising your muscles then atrophy sets in.
Some of you unfortunately have lives of possibly what you see as unfair adversity and grasp onto any hope that comes along, it is also unfortunate that people like this are the reason for many hoaxes and scams, they play on your misery of this world offering you something better, the only thing that gets better is the cash in their pockets.
There is also an very good 3 part documentary called UFO Gateway to Hell on video google
"A 7:20 hour probe of the UFO question. This documentary features an investigation into ancient documents right through to the present..."
Direct link to the first part: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1667738301360497195&hl=en
You know, way back when the internet was young I read these Galactic Federation messages on news groups. They read along the line of "The moment is drawing nearer", "Our spaceships are in orbit around Jupiter, soon will the time come for our arrival", "Commander "Jesus" are readying the galactic fleet...", "Soon we will bring the light to the world".
An interesting thing about this also is that Lucifer is called the angel of light, and will deceive many.
Now how would you go about and accomplish that? Would parking an gigantic spaceship over a city deceive many? Claim that you come in peace to save the earth? Would that do it?
Just using logic and looking at how people react, I would say yep many would fall for this if it happens.
"To understand our future, we must study the past"
Quote from: Sprocket on October 16, 2008, 11:14:54 AM
My reading of the reaction to this non-event is that it was simply a cry of anguish from those most desperate to be 'saved', despite the protestation of dis-belief to the contrary! Personally, I was surprised that something didn't happen after such a build-up - dissappointed? sure, but hey, the run-up sure felt good, and it isn't as if this was a food-transport to a starving planet or anything - in otherwords, life goes on!
If anything, it just highlights the need for self-reliance, and the absolute need for discernment when it comes to 'channelled' information...
Sprocket, well said.
Something may not have happened as envisioned, but certainly something has happened in the worlds of our expections, beliefs, and responses. If our response is to reflect on how this activity has played out for us personally, it can be transformed into growth.
Ask yourself: What did I expect? Why did I expect this? Why might I be angry, compassionate, hopeful, or indifferent about this subject?
What kind of being do I see after thoughtful reflection? Has an alien character really made itself visible? If I were approaching this being that I now see, do I wish to visit now or not? Are we really ready for an honest, constructive encounter with an alien?
The aliens were are contemplating are within us as well as without.
Sorry to bother you knuckledraggers, just one last thing. What is this?
http://10-14-08.blogspot.com/
well, they did not come up.... or they run out of fuel.....
i'Ã,,ve read somewhere they will come somewhere on the southern half of our globe.... is'nt there the mystery of NEUSCHWABENLAND?
Quote from: z.monkey on October 16, 2008, 01:44:12 PM
Sorry to bother you knuckledraggers, just one last thing. What is this?
http://10-14-08.blogspot.com/
a blurry picture...
Its a picture of the whitehouse at night. Eitherside the black fuzzy things are trees.....
So dont try make out this is a space ship.....
Quote from: professor on October 15, 2008, 03:32:00 PM
You can always politely refuse to listen to the J.W.,
if you have no Interest in the Subject Matter
So why are you on this tread?
You must obviously enjoy reading it.
Or are you just here to criticize folks?
Or are you trying to tell Stefan how to run this forum?
Or are you just a miserable nagger?
professor
practice what you preach and apply what you said to you and the stiffler thread...
Quote from: z.monkey on October 16, 2008, 01:44:12 PM
http://10-14-08.blogspot.com/
Z monkey
Did you watch the video by David Childerley on that link?
I agree with almost all of what he says .
I certainly did not have that much wisdom when I was his age.
gary
I applaud Blossom for her valor.
I agree that Childerly spoke well.
I would like to clarify again. The message was not that the ship would be here to save anybody. There is nothing to be saved. The point was to bring incontrovertible proof to those who believe in nothing out there.
Personally I think the crop circles does that pretty well. For some reason, many people do not.
In the end our true levels of love and forbearance for others showed up very clearly and in some cases quite loudly.
There is no more to say, really.
I will try to post my favorite of the cave paintings that were discovered in New Mexico. It shows a human with a spiral wrapped around the legs and a wormhole as well as one time portal. It was found in the chamber called number 6.
enjoy! (= allow the joy inside!)
respectfully for all the different opinions,
jeanna
Greetings,
Thaelin,
Although I do not explain where the energy comes from... I agree in some terms with Nightlife,
that there is unrecognized sources of energy.
Please contemplate how a french horn could amplify the sound from the mouth piece many times over.
Hans,
My brother doesn't think our government would lie to us either.
Truth is , one must read quite a few channeled messages to reach a logical conclusion
to the coherency and content and possible source of the information.
I have studied this...and I will sum up all chaneller's basic message.
You are God also.
What logic might apply in a lucid dream applies here on earth.
Life is what you make of it.
We have come to a time where we need to realize this to get to the next level of consciousness expansion.
The most pertinent and logical l question to ask you is...
"Would you like to know about our galactic neighbors in this time and space?
About Name Calling... you look much to wise for that.
Paul,
I need to do some more experiments... but mark my words... a transformer's output goes crazy at the it's resonant frequency.
Specifically, I believe it's the resonant frequency that can be calculated from the dimensions of the transformer.
End of Transmission,
The Observer
Quote from: The Observer on October 16, 2008, 03:16:56 PM
...
Hans,
My brother doesn't think our government would lie to us either.
Truth is , one must read quite a few channeled messages to reach a logical conclusion
to the coherency and content and possible source of the information.
I have studied this...and I will sum up all chaneller's basic message.
You are God also.
What logic might apply in a lucid dream applies here on earth.
Life is what you make of it.
We have come to a time where we need to realize this to get to the next level of consciousness expansion.
The most pertinent and logical l question to ask you is...
"Would you like to know about our galactic neighbors in this time and space?
About Name Calling... you look much to wise for that.
LMFAO, you must be new here, hans is ALL ABOUT name calling
Quote from: The Observer on October 16, 2008, 03:16:56 PM
What logic might apply in a lucid dream applies here on earth.
Will you PLEASE take your medication
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 16, 2008, 03:27:21 PM
Will you PLEASE take your medication
Hans von Lieven
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
:) St. Germain. http://10-14-08.blogspot.com/ ;D
Quote from: The Observer on October 16, 2008, 03:16:56 PM
"Would you like to know about our galactic neighbors in this time and space?
The Observer
Howdy The Observer,
Why yes, yes I would...
Blessed Be...
adama said that he would post an update regarding october 14th, on friday the 17th.
http://www.galacticaffairs.com/gfolforum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=14
someone somewhere said that the aliens changed their mind at the last moment.
but it is more likely that the illuminati threatened extra hard to blow up the planet, if there was a flyover.
the illuminati is extremely despirate.
they know that they face powerlessness and assassination.
so they are more than willing to destroy the planet, if it means staying in power.
Quote from: nitinnun on October 16, 2008, 04:42:17 PM
adama said that he would post an update regarding october 14th, on friday the 17th.
http://www.galacticaffairs.com/gfolforum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=14
someone somewhere said that the aliens changed their mind at the last moment.
but it is more likely that the illuminati threatened extra hard to blow up the planet, if there was a flyover.
the illuminati is extremely despirate.
they know that they face powerlessness and assassination.
so they are more than willing to destroy the planet, if it means staying in power.
please elucidate your statement of blowing up the planet to remain in power. if the planet is blown up what do 'they' have power over? some cosmic debris?
no no no.
if the illuminati are going to lose power, be ridiculed, possibly tortured, and definitely killed by millions of angry people,
than they have no problem with blowing up the planet the instant they become doomed.
if the aliens show up, than blowing up the planet is a faster and more preferable death for the illuminati,
than being murdered by all the people they have wronged.
but threatening to blow up the planet, keeps the aliens away.
so that they can hold onto power for a little longer.
because the aliens know that the illuminati are despirate and insane enough, to do it.
because the illuminati have nothing left to lose, the moment they lose power.
Quote from: nitinnun on October 16, 2008, 04:42:17 PM
the illuminati is extremely despirate.
they know that they face powerlessness and assassination.
so they are more than willing to destroy the planet, if it means staying in power.
I thought your Aliens were about love and light and god and such shit, now you are talking assassination.
You guys aren't only nuts, you are dangerous.
God help us against people like you.
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: nitinnun on October 16, 2008, 05:27:16 PM
no no no.
if the illuminati are going to lose power, be ridiculed, possibly tortured, and definitely killed by millions of angry people,
than they have no problem with blowing up the planet the instant they become doomed.
if the aliens show up, than blowing up the planet is a faster and more preferable death for the illuminati,
than being murdered by all the people they have wronged.
but threatening to blow up the planet, keeps the aliens away.
so that they can hold onto power for a little longer.
because the aliens know that the illuminati are despirate and insane enough, to do it.
because the illuminati have nothing left to lose, the moment they lose power.
Will someone lock this guy up before he does any real damage. We have a serious psychopath here.
Hans von Lieven
Guys and Girls they are coming November the 11th for all to see :D.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7159734280952213034&hl=en-GB
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Howdy Hans,
Yeah, the NWO/Illuminati are using nuclear blackmail against the Galactic Federation. The GF wants to help us, but if they do that the NWO is going to nuke Earth. This makes Christ Michael VERY angry. This is why there is major undercover operation on Earth right now. The GF has to surreptitiously thwart the actions of the NWO or else no one gets to live here...
Pretty Heavy...
Blessed Be Brother...
hans.
"i" do not have to do anything.
millions of other people, will do horrible things to them.
because they are very, very angry. and they will know exactly who has made their lives such a living hell.
the illuminati know it too. because they were the ones who went out of their way, to make others so miserable.
you either have a gradeschool-level reading comprehension,
or you are choosing to comment only on obscure, negative interpretations of other peoples posts.
for the sole purpose of tearing down people who you don't agree with.
you are contributing nothing but destruction.
you need to find something more constructive to do with your time, than childishly attack others online.
Quote from: z.monkey on October 16, 2008, 06:00:48 PM
Howdy Hans,
Yeah, the NWO/Illuminati are using nuclear blackmail against the Galactic Federation. The GF wants to help us, but if they do that the NWO is going to nuke Earth. This makes Christ Michael VERY angry. This is why there is major undercover operation on Earth right now. The GF has to surreptitiously thwart the actions of the NWO or else no one gets to live here...
Pretty Heavy...
Blessed Be Brother...
Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am the Christ; and shall lead many astray.
Matthew 24:6 And you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars...
Any comments?
really, I've found themthey came allready more than 40yrs ago, and found out, their or our calendar was wrong for many years.
here they are http://www.secret.tv/artikel4934292/Apollo_20 (http://www.secret.tv/artikel4934292/Apollo_20)
so they was waiting on the moon, but run out of energy or fuel....
maybe we have to save them sending some OU-unity :D :D
the cause of their calculation error could be properly
- the transmission (radio-message) run with lightspeed and they sended it the thousand years ago for us to receiving this message "just in time", but their technology about wormhole-traffic warp-speed or others grew faster and they had a miscalculation about the arriving-time (just the opposite about our train-systems... they allways are too late)
- there is really between the year 400 and 700 a lack of history, and they did not know it
Howdy Fast,
Christ Sananda is the one you know as Jesus Christ. Christ Michael (The Archangel Michael) is Christ Sananda's boss. Did you think that there was only one Archangel ??? There are legions of them, possibly trillions. Christ Michael commands this entire universe, Nebadon. Christ Sananda is in charge of our particular planet.
The term "Christ" is a title, synonymous with Archangel, King of Angels, Son of GOD...
It is a good idea to use fresh information in a debate...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on October 16, 2008, 06:45:02 PM
Howdy Fast,
Christ Sananda is the one you know as Jesus Christ. Christ Michael (The Archangel Michael) is Christ Sananda's boss. Did you think that there was only one Archangel ??? There are legions of them, possibly trillions. Christ Michael commands this entire universe, Nebadon. Christ Sananda is in charge of our particular planet.
The term "Christ" is a title, synonymous with Archangel, King of Angels, Son of GOD...
It is a good idea to use fresh information in a debate...
Blessed Be...
This is not information. This is shit!
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 16, 2008, 07:11:28 PM
This is not information. This is shit!
Hans von Lieven
Hans
Why do you use such a large font ?
Do you think it makes you seem smarter ?
gary
"No kingdom has ever been so divided by civil wars as that of Christ."
â€"Bre' de et de
Blessed Be the ignorant, for they will exist in a permanent state of bliss...
Christ Santana took off in the lightship Abraxas decades ago... nobody is watching this galactic forgotten science project called earth.
Also, odds are that other planets could support life like we have here, they are most likely around the same state of technological development and ALSO unable to travel to even the nearest star system...
all the channelers should have just resisted response until 11:59:59 10/17/2008...
a trillion "christs" can't stop one secret society?
skeptics 1 / channelers 0
game over... (at least from a credibility standpoint)
Quote from: hypersoniq on October 16, 2008, 07:28:43 PM
Blessed Be the ignorant, for they will exist in a permanent state of bliss...
Christ Santana took off in the lightship Abraxas decades ago... nobody is watching this galactic forgotten science project called earth.
with his black magic woman/gypsy queen :o
Damn I'm disappointed. We definitely need some infusion of intelligence from somewhere else. Fuck the 2000mile long lightship. A simple commandeering of the channels broadcasting stock exchange news and political debates would be a place to start. Something like: greedy earthling get off your ass and help someone else out instead of looking through magazines and trying to figure out how much of a credit line you got left to buy krap.
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on October 16, 2008, 02:00:23 PM
practice what you preach and apply what you said to you and the stiffler thread...
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I can't believe that this thread is still going! Seriously, get some help!!
Hans, like I, just wants you all to come back to reality! I believe that some of you should get a mental evaluation and get on some medication! A chemical imbalance in your brain is what is responsible for this fantasy. What is dangerous is when people that have this chemical imbalance get together... They start feeding off each other and this thread is a result of what happens.
Jason
Not its generation, the next yes.
When oil to finish, go all for farm make biofuel… hahahaha
I already will be died.
Reset the world.
Quote from: professor on October 16, 2008, 09:30:33 PM
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what a typically christian response... i can't believe you even show up in other threads touting your "credentials" with the crap you posted in here. am i annoying you with the cold facts? say a fucking prayer for me.
Quote from: 4Tesla on October 16, 2008, 09:32:49 PM
I can't believe that this thread is still going! Seriously, get some help!!
Hans, like I, just wants you all to come back to reality! I believe that some of you should get a mental evaluation and get on some medication! A chemical imbalance in your brain is what is responsible for this fantasy. What is dangerous is when people that have this chemical imbalance get together... They start feeding off each other and this thread is a result of what happens.
Jason
You are quite correct Tesla4.
The shit that is going on here is the stuff Waco and Johnstown are made of. But I am afraid no amount of screaming (large type) is going to get these idiots to go to a doctor and have their heads examined.
Too little common sense and too much dope is a formula for disaster.
Hans von Lieven
hans, tesla and the like,
since this subject does not interest you at all,
stay away from this thread and concentrate your energy on things that seem useful to you.
foremost why this continuing insulting language?
why do you feel attacked?
why are you affraid of this information?
please be civil and respectful, this is the only way to attain OU.
and yes this thread has everything to do with Free Energy,
you just can't see because you don't know!
eden
ps Hans go back and abuse the Lee tsung theory some more
Remember that today is Friday 17 then do nothing good words, if no aliens could be truly and then have trouble.
:o :o :o :o :'(
hi to all
leo48
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 17, 2008, 01:05:35 AM
You are quite correct Tesla4.
The shit that is going on here is the stuff Waco and Johnstown are made of. But I am afraid no amount of screaming (large type) is going to get these idiots to go to a doctor and have their heads examined.
Too little common sense and too much dope is a formula for disaster.
Hans von Lieven
i still like chocolate bars.
i still dislike obnoxious assholes.
there for, your argument proves nothing.
Quote from: orbs on October 16, 2008, 09:16:12 AM
I'm speechless at your seeming lack of understanding of logic (even though you imply to invoke this principle for yourself)...
...and your treatment of free speech (even though you seem to be using it for yourself extensively).
It's not that anybody was forced to read this thread (as far as I'm aware of, anyways)...
Huh? Another "free speech" advocate without an idea of the MEANNING of the "free speech" phrase...
Do I need to remind you how many times stupid idiots and/or schizofrenic/manic-depressive people have claimed that "gods" aliens" whatever, is coming on such a day and it will be the "endo of the world" etc. etc.
EVER time they turned to be the stupid idiots or mentally troubled , or both, individuals. Nothing ever happened.
Yet they continue their schizofrenic rants as if nothing happened.
What the "free speech" has to do with someone's mental illnes? Or logic? Something you obviously also are misunderstanding for the "right" to say whatever nonsense.
When someone tells a mentally unballanced person to be quiet, no one is "taking away" his/her right to believe in their schizofrenic dreams. Him/her are simply being asked to keep their insomnia-induced hallucinations to themself. They can still believe these hallucinations, but not share such shit with the rest of the society that doesn't want to listen.
In doing so, these mentols are the ones who are violating the right of others to be SPARED from their stupidity.
Are you with me now?
(I can only hope...)
14 Oct. is already behind us. What more of a hint do you need to see the real light?
Quote from: nitinnun on October 17, 2008, 03:33:14 AM
i still like chocolate bars.
i still dislike obnoxious assholes.
there for, your argument proves nothing.
And you feel so much better now too, right? Such a smart short return...you are a legend.
Just kidding.
You are not capable of a smart argument. Just senseless insults.
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 17, 2008, 03:40:23 AM
Huh? Another "free speech" advocate without an idea of the MEANNING of the "free speech" phrase...
Do I need to remind you how many times stupid idiots and/or schizofrenic/manic-depressive people have claimed that "gods" aliens" whatever, is coming on such a day and it will be the "endo of the world" etc. etc.
EVER time they turned to be the stupid idiots or mentally troubled , or both, individuals. Nothing ever happened.
Yet they continue their schizofrenic rants as if nothing happened.
What the "free speech" has to do with someone's mental illnes? Or logic? Something you obviously also are misunderstanding for the "right" to say whatever nonsense.
When someone tells a mentally unballanced person to be quiet, no one is "taking away" his/her right to believe in their schizofrenic dreams. Him/her are simply being asked to keep their insomnia-induced hallucinations to themself. They can still believe these hallucinations, but not share such shit with the rest of the society that doesn't want to listen.
In doing so, these mentols are the ones who are violating the right of others to be SPARED from their stupidity.
Are you with me now?
(I can only hope...)
14 Oct. is already behind us. What more of a hint do you need to see the real light?
get out now doc, they seem to be affecting your mind. everything you said was legit till that shit about "violating the right of others to be SPARED from their stupidity". where in world did you ever get the asinine idea that you have the right to be spared from stupidity? if your gonna say shit like that you might as well get out the tinfoil hat too.
Quote from: Eden on October 17, 2008, 03:08:04 AM
hans, tesla and the like,
since this subject does not interest you at all,
stay away from this thread and concentrate your energy on things that seem useful to you.
foremost why this continuing insulting language?
why do you feel attacked?
why are you affraid of this information?
please be civil and respectful, this is the only way to attain OU.
and yes this thread has everything to do with Free Energy,
you just can't see because you don't know!
eden
ps Hans go back and abuse the Lee tsung theory some more
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wait, I'm pissing in my pants. You're a cracker, you know that?
The day is gone and no 3600 KILOMETRES (wide? long? tall?) ship has turned up. Get the drift?
No, didn't expected you to get it. So, go channell some more lunacies. If you don't like the voices of the REAL TRUTH (whoever believes and promotes this crap is a numbnut.), do not read this thread. You are free to choose. Criticism here is warranted. Can't wear it? Stay away.
There was a chatolic priest somewhere in Australia that was telling to his followers that the year 2000 will be the end of the world. They all built a shelter (what for...?) amassed food suplies (world ends. what do you need food for, stupid?) and turned over their money and properties to him "to manage" in the name of god".
He screwed many of the women, and some undereaged girls until the 01.01.200. When nothing happened, by the mid January he ended up in the hands of the law and is now doing the time.
Everyone here promoting these ideas as a "undisputable" truth should suffer the same end - prison time.
In a prison-mental institution. There they will have all the "love" from above they will ever need: none.
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on October 17, 2008, 03:54:31 AM
... you might as well get out the tinfoil hat too.
I am wearing iron-laced undies. I heard the like to stick their antenas up the human arses, them lovers from the Moon, or thereabout...
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 17, 2008, 04:00:18 AM
I am wearing iron-laced undies. I heard the like to stick their antenas up the human arses, them lovers from the Moon, or thereabout...
LOL, you should market those.
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 17, 2008, 01:05:35 AM
You are quite correct Tesla4.
..........................................
Too little common sense and too much dope is a formula for disaster.
Hans von Lieven
Moin Moin Hans
Since some long time, i do search after a solution to get clean and free energy.
Thats one of the reason for me , to be here.
I am shure, that a decentralised energy supply supports the future for our coming
generation in a good way. Desalination, or the production of healthy and clean water, in
a big quantity on each point on earth , will help to feed people where ever they like to life.
High energy prices will make it impossible, that in future a community develops fair and equal
live conditions for all beings.
I dont know, what happend here, but i see the time passing .
Day by day .
I see this topic here with low interest.
Because i would also not care if someone in a bookstore looks
out for some sience fiction literature.30 Years ago i use to read "Perry Rodan" or" Ren Dark" myselve and was very fascinated by the
Idea of the characters in that story.
So now, i decide , not to invest my time here.
If they come.....they come ....i can not stop it. Thats shure.
If they do not come,....... they do not come. Thats ok .
But we have no time to waist and shall continue, to search after a way, for free available energy.
Please help us.
helmut
QuoteGuys and Girls they are coming November the 11th for all to see Cheesy.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7159734280952213034&hl=en-GB
owhaha ha haa this gay is totaly mad or get hight on som kind of powerful drugs:D
Tach Helmut,
Ja, Gucki den Mausbiber kenn ich auch LOL Aber das ist mehr als 30 Jahre lang her. Das Ding fing an in den 50er Jahren.
Hans
If you cant beat em, join em I say.
Why Aliens Will Never Visit Earth
I wanted to be serious for a few moments and dispell rumors that aliens have visited earth. I will hereby debunk every known theory, sighting, or close encounter and will explain explicitly why aliens will not bother to visit our tasty little orb.
First, the sightings of ufos. I group them all together into one universal group and vigorously contend that each of the known "sightings" can be reduced to one simple answer: flatulence.
Yep, that's right. We all know about it, most of us have it, and even more of us sort of actually enjoy its presence in our lives. It is a well documented scientific FACT that our own malodorous noise maker is highly flammable and that it floats upward at tremendous speeds. Actually, the speed of flatulence is inversely related to the number of people ABOUT to walk into the room where you were tooting your own horn. If 7 of your wife's closest friends are about to walk into the den where you thought you were alone, flatulence travels at about 2 feet per hour at best. But after that, it has been clocked upwards of 4300 miles per hour.
It is believed that the "FART" was documented well before the first alleged alien/ufo sighting. The match and fire was next, then the wheel. It only stands to reason that there were caveman ancestors of mine who saw the logical beauty of taking this new found fire and mixing it with their voluminous quantitys of caveman body gas. Cavemen had a largely sulphuric diet and the early days of our planet were more noxious than most realize. It wasn't meteors that killed the dinosaurs. It was the first pregnant cavelady who combined the sulphur based diet with being pregnant. Basically, that's all it took.
Now, why the aliens will never visit our planet: My dad loves to fart into his cell phone to "get me good". On those fine occassions where I answer with a basic "hello", and am met by the sound of a choking duck on the other end, I know that my dad is on the other end showing me how funny he really is. It wasn't funny enough that he named his two boys Cash and Carey. Nah, he has to call me up at the age of 67 and rip me a new earhole. And how, you may ask, will this keep aliens from visiting the earth? Simple.
As has been documented factually on numerous top rated websites, aliens obviously do exist. That has never been in question. As Stan Dare documented on www.aliensreallyexist.com, aliens really exist. However, they, like most of my redneck inlaws, choose to steal basic cable rather than pay for it. And where do they steal it? Right from those same multi-use satellites that transmist our cable/cell phone signals across our planet. And when my Dad fires one up, (and he rarely stops at just one) that noise gets broadcast right onto the television set of every
Xornquellian (well known dark planet) in the cosmos. Folks, this ain't rocket science. This is alien science. I gotta believe that those aliens up there bootlegging cable from our satellites are smart enough to know that the atmosphere of our planet smells of rotten eggs and ranch style beans.
So, in the name of interplanetary safety, let er' rip!
On a more serious side.
Written by a Senior Astronomer, Project Phoenix
When it comes to alien activities, visiting Earth seems to be pretty high on the "to do" list. But does that make sense?
Approximately half the U.S. population suspects that extraterrestrials have come to our planet. This is such a controversial (and emotional) topic that its mere mention in one of these articles is usually sufficient to guarantee a storm of Web chat and high-voltage e-mails. In the end, of course, the matter of alien visitation will be decided by the evidence, not by the intensity of opinion. While I certainly expect that the Galaxy is home to many advanced societies, the quality of the evidence has so far failed to convince me that any of them have emissaries on our planet.
But lets back off to our neutral corners for a moment and consider an intimately related question: why would aliens be visiting now? According to the most popular view of this matter, extraterrestrial craft have been flitting across our skies since 1947. Thats 55 years in a planetary history of 4,600,000,000 years. If we assume for the moment that these claims are real, this chronology tells us immediately that either (1) we are the beneficiaries of an enormously rare event (one chance in 100 million, or if you want to argue that no aliens would visit until they detected oxygen in our atmosphere, one chance in 40 million), (2) the aliens routinely visit Earth, or (3) our activities (nuclear tests, environmental degradation, etc.) have attracted the aliens attention, and encouraged them to drop by.
The first possibility, that we just happened to luck out (being around for the first and only alien encounter), is less probable than that you not someone, but you will win next months lottery jackpot. It strains credulity, to use polite vernacular.
The second possibility, that Earth hosts extraterrestrials on a routine basis, and therefore a visit during your lifetime is not particularly improbable, deserves a bit more scrutiny. The question is, how often do they visit? If its only once in a few tens of millions of years, were back to the first possibility, and the odds are highly stacked against you being one of the lucky visitees. But some folk claim that aliens have glissaded to Earth in historical times (five millennia ago, when the pyramids were built, or one millennium ago, when the Nazca Indians elected to decorate the Peruvian desert floor with glyphs of turkeys and other of their favorite fauna). If any of this is true, it argues for visits at least once every 1,000 years or so. The problem with this is that barring some reason for them to visit humans in particular (a possibility we consider below) it implies that there have been millions of expeditions to Earth! We may send the occasional anthropological research team to Borneo, but we dont send millions. And its a lot easier to get to Borneo than to traverse hundreds or thousands of light-years. This, too, seems to be an unlikely explanation for visitors now.
Finally, we consider door number three we have enticed the aliens with human activity. Lets set aside the question of whether advanced galactic societies would have the slightest interest in our wars, our pollution problems, or our reproductive systems. The real question is, how would they know about us at all?
In fact, theres only one clear and persistent "signal" that Homo sapiens has ever sent to the stars: our high-frequency radio transmissions, including television and radar. The Victorians (let alone the Egyptians or the Nazca Indians), despite all their technical sophistication, could never have been spotted from light-years away. Humans have been making their presence known to the universe only for the last 70 years or so.
And thats a problem. It means that even if, after receiving an earthly transmission, the aliens can immediately scramble their spacecraft and fly to Earth at the speed of light, they cant be farther than 8 light-years away to have arrived by 1947. There are four star systems within this distance. Count em, four. Were back to winning the lottery.
What about warp drive? Maybe the aliens can create wormholes and get here in essentially no time. It doesnt matter. Our signals travel at the speed of light, and this means that even with infinitely fast spacecraft, the aliens cant be farther off than 15 light-years to have reached our lovely planet by 1947. The number of star systems within 15 light-years is about three dozen. There would have to be 10 billion technically sophisticated societies in the Galaxy to have a reasonable chance of finding one camped out among the nearest three dozen stars. Thats optimism of a high level indeed.
Its nice to think that either Earth or its human inhabitants have not only attracted the attention of galactic neighbors, but encouraged them to visit.
But frankly, the numbers dont give much support to this somewhat self-indulgent idea.
In my time zone the 3-day window has been closed for over 5 and 1/2 hours now...
One of the good things I personally got from this particular thread was a bump from "newbie" to "Jr. member" status, so I can't say it was a TOTAL waste of my time. Also If you haven't done so, go back and listen to Yucca's song to hear some decent techno application of modern synth software.
Lessons learned
1. Science and Art = good mix (Yucca's tune rocks... and that wingmakers book would make a cool movie!)
2. Science and Religion = bad mix (Do archangels even need a ship?)
3. Channeling takes a Dow Jones-like dive in credibility (Blossom commits "career suicide")
4. Based on the outcome of this non-event, we can apply a 1% chance that anything happens on 11/11/08 (with a 1% margin of error ::) ) or any other date...
@hans RE: the aussie "priest"... exactly! That's how it happens, sometimes with worse results such as Jim Jones, david koresh in waco and those "comet chasers" that"shed their bodies" to hitch a ride on the hale-bopp comet. Those that do not study history are doomed to repeat it. Hopefully everyone common to this thread and the electrinium one heeds your advice about NOT toying with cyanide...
three days came with no results, I'm on to the next thing... thanks for the entertainment ;D
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 17, 2008, 03:44:55 AM
And you feel so much better now too, right? Such a smart short return...you are a legend.
Just kidding.
You are not capable of a smart argument. Just senseless insults.
"you" are not capable of comprehending sarcasm.
or the unspoken ridicule, that is sometimes expressed as sarcasm.
because your right brain matter got sick of witnessing your forum posts, and decided to move into another skull.
maybe if you continue your unconstructive negativity for another million posts, then some random forum person will award you a badge.
"the black heart of meaningless yet never-ending henpecking".
and that will be the moment, that you know that all that sneering, obtuse, pointless screaming, was worth all the hours (solid months, total) of time and effort.
All it takes is one or two people disrespecting other members...then all the trolls with nothing to offer but negativity come out of the woodwork.
The best thing to do is refer your posts to them in the third person...they seem to require someone's personal attention in order to maintain their level of interest.
When they don't get their feedback/fix, they move on in search of another intellectual crack house.
Regards...
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 17, 2008, 03:40:23 AMHuh? Another "free speech" advocate without an idea of the MEANNING of the "free speech" phrase...
My point was supposed to be that you are not taking the same measures on yourself as you do on others.
And here is another Saint-Germain (for those who can take it): http://youtube.com/watch?v=xtJsw6Zlrzk
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 17, 2008, 05:25:23 AM
Tach Helmut,
Ja, Gucki den Mausbiber kenn ich auch LOL Aber das ist mehr als 30 Jahre lang her. Das Ding fing an in den 50er Jahren.
Hans
hi, ihr beiden....
Gucky ist mir auch viel lieber als ein gua'uld :D :D :D
aber wie ich schon voerher geschrieben habe, ich hab die missglückte ankunft gefunden
Quote from: mike-ao on October 16, 2008, 06:44:17 PM
really, I've found them
they came allready more than 40yrs ago, and found out, their or our calendar was wrong for many years.
here they are http://www.secret.tv/artikel4934292/Apollo_20 (http://www.secret.tv/artikel4934292/Apollo_20)
so they was waiting on the moon, but run out of energy or fuel....
maybe we have to save them sending some OU-unity :D :D
the cause of their calculation error could be properly
- the transmission (radio-message) run with lightspeed and they sended it the thousand years ago for us to receiving this message "just in time", but their technology about wormhole-traffic warp-speed or others grew faster and they had a miscalculation about the arriving-time (just the opposite about our train-systems... they allways are too late)
- there is really between the year 400 and 700 a lack of history, and they did not know it
Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 16, 2008, 05:30:13 PMGod help us against people like you.
I'm sure the proposed blacklist for OZ will take care of that if you ask them to add a few entries of things you don't like: http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/10/17/066236.shtml
1 Thessalonians 5
1 Now concerning how and when all this will happen, dear brothers and sisters,[a] we don’t really need to write you. 2 For you know quite well that the day of the Lord’s return will come unexpectedly, like a thief in the night. 3 When people are saying, “Everything is peaceful and secure,†then disaster will fall on them as suddenly as a pregnant woman’s labor pains begin. And there will be no escape.
Quote from: Eden on October 17, 2008, 03:08:04 AM
hans, tesla and the like,
since this subject does not interest you at all,
stay away from this thread and concentrate your energy on things that seem useful to you.
foremost why this continuing insulting language?
why do you feel attacked?
why are you affraid of this information?
please be civil and respectful, this is the only way to attain OU.
and yes this thread has everything to do with Free Energy,
you just can't see because you don't know!
eden
ps Hans go back and abuse the Lee tsung theory some more
We want them to get help! And no, this thread has nothing to do with free energy.. you need help too.
Jason
Quote from: orbs on October 17, 2008, 07:31:34 AM
My point was supposed to be that you are not taking the same measures on yourself as you do on others.
That is the pleasure of others in the forum. How can I be "objective" toward myself? If I start spilling the nonsense about the "aliens" and "space trotters" coming on earth, which they conveyed to me in some trance or sleep, I'd expect you to get busy telling me about the load of crap I am talking about.
But your problem is that you can't either. Because you know that I amd right. Not because I say so. Because these "alien channelers" are. 14 October has come and gone. Where are those lovers of humans, and their 3600 KILOMETRES space convertible?
So, cut down your moral stands with me because you have none. Until I join the schizfrenic support group and start talking to Hanging Penis from Venus myself. And that ain't going to happen any time soon.
Good Morning Dr. Tesla,
You know if you keep posting in this thread it is not going to go away...
You might give us an excuse to continue posting here...
Blessed Be...
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 18, 2008, 08:41:40 AMSo, cut down your moral stands with me because you have none.
You asked others to be logical but you yourself were not (from my point of view -- my guess is that you meant "use common sense", "use the same discernment as the majority of people I'm familiar with do", "use the way of thinking we were taught", or similar). Of course I understand that free expression also allows you to be inconsistent in what you do yourself and what you request from others, so I'm not requesting you to change yourself (as long as you don't try to enforce your beliefs on others either) but I couldn't resist mentioning it. ;D
[As I understand it, "moral" is a mostly religious, societal or traditional value system that a group of people agrees on (sometimes implicitly, and then possibly enforce it, sometimes indirectly), but it does not necessarily fully stand for what's "best" f
or that group's goal (it might have been in the past, though). It's not my intention to argue from the angle of "moral" though.]
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 18, 2008, 08:41:40 AM
But your problem is that you can't either. Because you know that I amd right. Not because I say so. Because these "alien channelers" are. 14 October has come and gone. Where are those lovers of humans, and their 3600 KILOMETRES space convertible?
[humor]
maybe there was a translation-error 2000 miles vs. 2000 inch??? maybee they was here, but everyone ignored them, becaus 2000inch (about 5m)?
[/humor]
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 18, 2008, 08:41:40 AM
That is the pleasure of others in the forum. How can I be "objective" toward myself? If I start spilling the nonsense about the "aliens" and "space trotters" coming on earth, which they conveyed to me in some trance or sleep, I'd expect you to get busy telling me about the load of crap I am talking about.
But your problem is that you can't either. Because you know that I amd right. Not because I say so. Because these "alien channelers" are. 14 October has come and gone. Where are those lovers of humans, and their 3600 KILOMETRES space convertible?
So, cut down your moral stands with me because you have none. Until I join the schizfrenic support group and start talking to Hanging from Venus myself. And that ain't going to happen any time soon.
i already told you.
the illuminati threatened extra hard to nuke the planet clean of life, if the benevolent aliens did the flyover.
because the illuminati would rather risk destroying the planet in an ultimatum, and die with their illusionary power in tact.
than die powerless and hated.
so the benevolent aliens-who-look-and-feel-exactly-like-us, had to postpone the flyover.
but they can't simply reschedule a new flyover. or else the jackasses who are holding our planet hostage, would just threaten to nuke it again.
and then the benevolent aliens would have to postone it again. and so on.
so the illuminati have to be disabled, before we hear anything public from them.
"i" think they knew they would have to postpone the flyover, due to the ultimatum. because this isn't the 50th time that the illuminati have threatened to do it.
but they announced it anyway, to see how positively the population here took it.
and so we won't be surprised, when the illumani are removed, and it does happen.
the benevolent aliens put a strict quarantine on this planet, more than 12,000 years ago.
because the population had reptilian DNA introduced into its genome.
which is why we have so many vicious, irrelevant donkey-holes in our society.
and why we have the british.
the quarantine is why we have seen very little of them, over the course of recorded history.
only a few individuals are ever allowed to bypass the quarantine.
and only in very restricted ways.
you don't have to agree with the above explanation.
but it is pointless to attack my explanation, when you cannot prove or disprove it.
the WISE thing to do about something that you can neither prove nor disprove, is to let it be.
without feeling one way or another about it.
Quote from: nitinnun on October 19, 2008, 05:32:53 AM
i already told you.
the illuminati threatened extra hard to nuke the planet clean of life, if the benevolent aliens did the flyover.
because the illuminati would rather risk destroying the planet in an ultimatum, and die with their illusionary power in tact.
than die powerless and hated.
so the benevolent aliens-who-look-and-feel-exactly-like-us, had to postpone the flyover.
but they can't simply reschedule a new flyover. or else the jackasses who are holding our planet hostage, would just threaten to nuke it again.
and then the benevolent aliens would have to postone it again. and so on.
so the illuminati have to be disabled, before we hear anything public from them.
"i" think they knew they would have to postpone the flyover, due to the ultimatum. because this isn't the 50th time that the illuminati have threatened to do it.
but they announced it anyway, to see how positively the population here took it.
and so we won't be surprised, when the illumani are removed, and it does happen.
the benevolent aliens put a strict quarantine on this planet, more than 12,000 years ago.
because the population had reptilian DNA introduced into its genome.
which is why we have so many vicious, irrelevant donkey-holes in our society.
and why we have the british.
the quarantine is why we have seen very little of them, over the course of recorded history.
only a few individuals are ever allowed to bypass the quarantine.
and only in very restricted ways.
you don't have to agree with the above explanation.
but it is pointless to attack my explanation, when you cannot prove or disprove it.
the WISE thing to do about something that you can neither prove nor disprove, is to let it be.
without feeling one way or another about it.
If it looks like JUNK, smells like JUNK & reads like JUNK (and the above make all three) it's probably JUNK.
Quote from: mindsweeper on October 19, 2008, 05:59:44 AM
If it looks like JUNK, smells like JUNK & reads like JUNK (and the above make all three) it's probably JUNK.
only if you value what your 5 senses tell you, and nothing else.
(nihilism)
and ignore potentials that exist independantly, of the 5 senses.
(how many things in the universe, are governed by probability?!?!?!?)
and don't understand that condemning ANYTHING in life, only closes doors.
yet never opens doors.
(why lock your brain in a cage and throw away the key, if you don't have to?)
i honestly don't understand why some people have a "problem" with this thread.
if it is accurate, than that's great.
if it is inaccurate, than no big deal.
because each person will chose to do whatever they think is best in life.
regardless of what is what.
and if someone imposed harm on another, than that is a product of their judgement ability.
not because something "made" them do it.
Quote from: nitinnun on October 19, 2008, 06:15:25 AM
only if you value what your 5 senses tell you, and nothing else.
(nihilism)
and ignore potentials that exist independantly, of the 5 senses.
(how many things in the universe, are governed by probability?!?!?!?)
and don't understand that condemning ANYTHING in life, only closes doors.
yet never opens doors.
(why lock your brain in a cage and throw away the key, if you don't have to?)
i honestly don't understand why some people have a "problem" with this thread.
if it is accurate, than that's great.
if it is inaccurate, than no big deal.
because each person will chose to do whatever they think is best in life.
regardless of what is what.
and if someone imposed harm on another, than that is a product of their judgement ability.
not because something "made" them do it.
More JUNK!
Provable sighting, no camera necessary.
I humbly predict that an invisible spacecraft of huge dimensions, (fill in your own numbers metric or imperial), will be hovering over (fill in your home town), today, (and for the rest of the week).
If you look out your window at the sky and can't see it, that's it! :)
Checkov: Sir, what is that? (pointing at the viewscreen)
Kirk: Spock?
Spock: Its not registering on ships sensors, sir.
Kirk: Shields Up! Red Alert!
Spock: Apparently it is there and not there simultaneously, sir.
Kirk: How could that be? We can see it, but the ship can't?
Kirk: Mr. Checkov, set a course away form the object, half impulse drive.
Checkov: Aye Sir!
Quote from: supermike on October 19, 2008, 07:37:46 AM
Provable sighting, no camera necessary.
I humbly predict that an invisible spacecraft of huge dimensions, (fill in your own numbers metric or imperial), will be hovering over (fill in your home town), today, (and for the rest of the week).
If you look out your window at the sky and can't see it, that's it! :)
don't we have this event
EVERY DAY?
Quote from: nitinnun on October 19, 2008, 05:32:53 AM
i already told you.
the illuminati threatened extra hard to nuke the planet clean of life, if the benevolent aliens did the flyover.
because the illuminati would rather risk destroying the planet in an ultimatum, and die with their illusionary power in tact.
than die powerless and hated.
so the benevolent aliens-who-look-and-feel-exactly-like-us, had to postpone the flyover.
but they can't simply reschedule a new flyover. or else the jackasses who are holding our planet hostage, would just threaten to nuke it again.
and then the benevolent aliens would have to postone it again. and so on.
so the illuminati have to be disabled, before we hear anything public from them.
"i" think they knew they would have to postpone the flyover, due to the ultimatum. because this isn't the 50th time that the illuminati have threatened to do it.
but they announced it anyway, to see how positively the population here took it.
and so we won't be surprised, when the illumani are removed, and it does happen.
the benevolent aliens put a strict quarantine on this planet, more than 12,000 years ago.
because the population had reptilian DNA introduced into its genome.
which is why we have so many vicious, irrelevant donkey-holes in our society.
and why we have the british.
the quarantine is why we have seen very little of them, over the course of recorded history.
only a few individuals are ever allowed to bypass the quarantine.
and only in very restricted ways.
you don't have to agree with the above explanation.
but it is pointless to attack my explanation, when you cannot prove or disprove it.
the WISE thing to do about something that you can neither prove nor disprove, is to let it be.
without feeling one way or another about it.
erm.. "and why we have the british." what does this mean?
Quote from: shooter001 on October 19, 2008, 10:08:19 AM
erm.. "and why we have the british." what does this mean?
4get it.... maybee he/she does not like fish'n-chips
If you believe the whole human experience is just what appears as electromagnetic stimulation of an army of cells you call yourself then so be it. Die here and get recycled or better yet have yourself creamated to keep others warm.
Maybe they will be afforded a break from the demands of the carnate to establish some balance in their life. Mind Body and Soul.
Quote from: shooter001 on October 19, 2008, 10:08:19 AM
erm.. "and why we have the british." what does this mean?
the british in general, have a large amount of reptilian DNA, within their population.
mostly the "mental traits" of the reptilians.
because the mental traits were the biggest change that the reptilians introduced, more than 12,000 years ago.
that overly logical, overly detail-oriented, underly emotional, underly generality-oriented mindset.
of which the british are the worlds biggest proponents.
most of the british likely aren't "truely" evil.
but as a people, they have earned their reputation for being "a very mean bunch".
i am an individual who thinks with my emotions, generalities, and the larger picture.
those things are FREQUENTLY in conflict, with the way that the british think.
i don't like how they think, and they don't like how i think.
our mental forms clash like fire and water.
and we step directly on each others nerves.
in less time than it takes to punch someone right in the nose.
over the years, i have gotten into VERY nasty fights with them online.
mainly because of the above conflict.
not because of the content itself.
or even because of our beliefs.
but because of the very elements, that make up what we are.
and that is the story of how the reptilians are directly responsible for spawning the british.
minus a slew of other details that i know about the subject, but don't feel like having nitpicked to death by some of the people who visit this website.
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 13, 2008, 09:50:34 PM
I looked at your dino link which was your "evidence" Meier was a fraud.
Here was the conclusion on the link...
"We are not certain where Meier first published his photograph of a dinosaur, but it has never been denied as being an authentic Meier photograph by Meier or any of his proponents.
This is an example of what appears to be Meier creating "evidence" to support his claims that was unable to be verified until the Internet came into wide usage."
So which came first...the illustration or the photograph ?
It's pretty obvious. The dinosaur painting by Zdenek Burian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zden%C4%9Bk_Burian) (a well known dinosaur artist) is from the book 'Life Before Man', published in 1972 in Europe and 1973 in the US. Meier claims his first UFO experience was 1975. The painting came first, and Meier ripped it off. I guess his space alien friends didn't warn him about the skeptics on the Internet?
Don't take my word for it. You can buy the original 1972 book online from Alibris at http://www.alibris.com/booksearch?qwork=3931020&matches=27&title=life+before+man&cm_sp=works*listing*title
Are you claiming Meier was publishing UFO information before 1975? If so, let's see your proof.
I slipstreamed my first copy of vista the other day very interesting process why would one slipstream vista you ask... Well its what comes with most laptops that are newer so in order to keep things from costing any more time with linux or money with xp ahhh well I'm stuck with the COA that came with the thing....
Either way I reccomend that everyone give it a try it makes setting up a breeze :P
Vlite is all that it provides everything currently possible ...
Shame integration of software cant be done switchless installers run off of a bat I suppose would work easy enough but... Switchless /S silent installers tend to have what we call adware or spyware bundled many times like google tool bar sheesh how many installations of google toolbar does one need?
FYI all, I'm not following this post but I thought I should mention this, I am currently located in Delaware, USA, and todays local news showed and recorded UFO's over Delaware state, and yes , it was the real news channel.
Quote from: nitinnun on October 20, 2008, 04:31:15 AM
the british in general, have a large amount of reptilian DNA, within their population.
mostly the "mental traits" of the reptilians.
because the mental traits were the biggest change that the reptilians introduced, more than 12,000 years ago.
that overly logical, overly detail-oriented, underly emotional, underly generality-oriented mindset.
of which the british are the worlds biggest proponents.
most of the british likely aren't "truely" evil.
but as a people, they have earned their reputation for being "a very mean bunch".
i am an individual who thinks with my emotions, generalities, and the larger picture.
those things are FREQUENTLY in conflict, with the way that the british think.
i don't like how they think, and they don't like how i think.
our mental forms clash like fire and water.
and we step directly on each others nerves.
in less time than it takes to punch someone right in the nose.
over the years, i have gotten into VERY nasty fights with them online.
mainly because of the above conflict.
not because of the content itself.
or even because of our beliefs.
but because of the very elements, that make up what we are.
and that is the story of how the reptilians are directly responsible for spawning the british.
minus a slew of other details that i know about the subject, but don't feel like having nitpicked to death by some of the people who visit this website.
So i take it you dont like our fish and chips very much. :D
Yeh you are correct about the british royal family having a bloodline that traces back, and perhaps Tony Blair, but i could say the same about the Bush family line. they are all connected so i wouldn't isolate britain as having in general reptilian DNA. I suspect the bloodlines are highly connected to the higher levels of the masons including the royal family, the bush family, tony blair, the rockerfellas, and the rothchilds. You have to remember the annunaki or reptilians who mated with the human population did this in ancient sumeria which is now iraq. I believe noah was one of these descendants.
Kirk (daydreaming in the Captain's Chair): Fish & Chips, mmmmmm........
Quote from: X00013 on October 20, 2008, 07:41:44 PM
FYI all, I'm not following this post but I thought I should mention this, I am currently located in Delaware, USA, and todays local news showed and recorded UFO's over Delaware state, and yes , it was the real news channel.
Spose they were government saucers? or real ones?
Do you know where they are on the net?
jeanna
Kirk, hold the vinegar please I'm from the colonies. ;D ;D
What happens is that misfits and idiots get told to get the fuck out of here. You are just way too much trouble for the community. So they migrate into barley habitable areas like cold damp island nations no one in their right minds would chose to live on. Then because they are all idiots to begin with they forget how to grow crops. But they have the boat the community gave them when they threw them out. So they study it and figure out how to make a bigger one. Then they all get drunk on some rotten potatoes and jump into the big boat and start raping and plundering communities that really never dreamed that throwing these folks out was a big mistake cause the bad kharma is inborn now. Barbaryann's or just neglected children?
Quote from: sparks on October 20, 2008, 08:54:33 PM
What happens is that misfits and idiots get told to get the fuck out of here. You are just way too much trouble for the community. So they migrate into barley habitable areas like cold damp island nations no one in their right minds would chose to live on. Then because they are all idiots to begin with they forget how to grow crops. But they have the boat the community gave them when they threw them out. So they study it and figure out how to make a bigger one. Then they all get drunk on some rotten potatoes and jump into the big boat and start raping and plundering communities that really never dreamed that throwing these folks out was a big mistake cause the bad kharma is inborn now. Barbaryann's or just neglected children?
Shooter to Kirk, Sparks is having a personality breakdown, please advise..
Quote from: shooter001 on October 20, 2008, 09:12:21 PM
Shooter to Kirk, Sparks is having a personality breakdown, please advise..
Uhura: Captain, there is an incoming transmission from Shooter001
Kirk ???: Are you authorized to use this channel, son?
Shooter001 (on scratchy subspace radio): Yes Sir!
Shooter001 (on scratchy subspace radio): Sparks is loosing it sir...
Kirk: Alright son, tell Sparks that "The All" is secure, he doesn't need to worry...
Kirk: He will understand
Uhura: Sir we just lost communications...
Kirk: Spock...
Spock: The signal was lost at the source sir...
Kirk: Damn!
Spark I have a message for you.
The All is secure, you don't need to worry...
;)
Federation of light to federation of Dark intercepted transmission:
What are we gonna do with these frigging smart monkeys. The reptilians have just about had it trying to keep these people fed and clothed. I don't want to step on your turf but this herd is about to go on stampede. Do you guys want to handle it this time or do we have to go all the way with the close encounter deal again? Last time some monkey wrote it down and now they think we're gods having some kinda pissing contest. This is getting old. Let's do lunch on the backside moon saloon and figure this shit out. Latter guys.
Quote from: nitinnun on October 20, 2008, 04:31:15 AM
the british in general, have a large amount of reptilian DNA, within their population.
mostly the "mental traits" of the reptilians.
because the mental traits were the biggest change that the reptilians introduced, more than 12,000 years ago.
most of the british likely aren't "truely" evil.
but as a people, they have earned their reputation for being "a very mean bunch".
Unlike the US of course which is a peace loving people who do not invade countries because of acts of terrorism, God bless America and all who sink in her. ;D
Quote from: RunningBare on October 20, 2008, 10:11:45 PM
Unlike the US of course which is a peace loving people who do not invade countries because of acts of terrorism, God bless America and all who sink in her. ;D
your words do not apply.
to my subject, or to anything in general.
you fail.
and then some.
Aw to heck with it. My 2cents. I prefer the Restaurant at the End Of The Universe. ;D ::)
thaelin
i prefere burger king.
especially if there is a pleiadian working there.
pretending that his undercover job helps him to understand us.
i don't hate fish and chips.
just the sociopathic minds that savor it.
These ads are probably more along the line of Hans: http://theregister.com/2008/10/21/dawkins_athiest_bus ;D
8) 42 8)
Quote from: wile_coyote7 on October 21, 2008, 08:31:27 AM
8) 42 8)
And we have a winner, tell him what he's won Charlie...
Looks like I've been rumbled..
OK... I'm a REPTILE and my brothers and sisters are coming to get you..
i declare Lithorchiptosis upon this thread.
mull THAT one over a bit.
Quote from: nitinnun on October 21, 2008, 06:56:09 PM
i declare Lithorchiptosis upon this thread.
mull THAT one over a bit.
TOTAL Dribble, you are a total maniac. You need shooting fool.
You're dumb website says it all. What an IDIOT.
OMG, this is getting out of hand! Geeze....
Looks like this thread is skiing towards a cliff...
from my point of view reptilians are real
what had happened in this topic is simple
reptilians are controlling the astral plane, so they can play with channelling, and fuck them as they planned
why ? to make us not believing in any help from anyone, it must be a war to purify this world
reptilians will conquer the earth in 2013 !
pray to not let on the earth at this time, Gog ad Magog will invade us !
where i find those things ?
The AntiChrist Dajjal will be a Reptilian ShapeShifter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TntIwQ532oA
this is part one, and there is approximatly 20 parts one on youtube, a great success!
there is others link to upload those videos, if needed
i am at the episode 138 on 600, this is a must, don't missed that
thoses videos are pretty good to explain us how we are mind controlled, they want us to decrease our vibrating level, they control the NWO and they have a plan to conquer the earth
thoses videos have been remove from youtube, than many many members are still posting those videos , a very good way to learn about reptilians
btw you can look at my reptilian's topic too, in UFO sighting
any skeptics will find very good evidence of the reptilian invasion
i am not fear that, i am still happy, this world is changing, and it may be for the good, cause the earth will remain in the power of reptilians (Dajjal's videos) and most of us will ascend to the new earth in 4 density (David Wilcock), everything is alll right, the devils humans will stay with the devils reptilians, and the good human will go to meet the 4 density's community
An unusal pink glow was spotted in London for all to see.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23575796-details/U.F.Glow:+Mysterious+pink+light+over+London/article.do
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/10/22/pink-light-causes-london-ufo-scare-115875-20827129/
http://digg.com/environment/The_mystery_pink_light_that_appeared_over_London_PICS
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1079297/Pictured-The-mystery-pink-light-appeared-London.html
from my point of view, anyone who believes in aliens, reptillian devils, angels, ascended masters, jedi masters, pleiadians, sirians, beta reticulans, elves, dwarves, hobgoblins, dopplegangers, dragons, wyverns, xorn, etc. is "deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow".
you want a 'brave new world'? we have a future of limited and partially ruinous warfare to look forward to, if our past is any indication of our future.
you want someone to come save you from the bad things? save yourself. when you wait for, or demand that someone else come save you, you end up with things like government, or galactic federations... ::)
click here for an investigation of religion/christianity and the REAL story of how the bible was/is made (http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/64498/detail/)
Kirk: Mr. Spock, what is the status of the object?
Spock: It is matching our trajectory and velocity, sir...
Kirk: Mr. Checkov, all stop...
Kirk (impatient): Well... Spock...
Spock: The object is holding position relative to us...
Spock: It seems to have attached itself to us...
Kirk: Mr. Sulu, tactical assessment...
Sulu: There is no indication of weapons, sir...
Sulu: Its power signature is off our scale...
Spock: The object is approximately 900 times our displacement...
Kirk: What... is... it...
Quote from: shooter001 on October 22, 2008, 05:43:57 PM
An unusal pink glow was spotted in London for all to see.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23575796-details/U.F.Glow:+Mysterious+pink+light+over+London/article.do
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/10/22/pink-light-causes-london-ufo-scare-115875-20827129/
http://digg.com/environment/The_mystery_pink_light_that_appeared_over_London_PICS
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1079297/Pictured-The-mystery-pink-light-appeared-London.html
First time they have seen a sunset??
I can't believe this thread is still alive... you guys need to stop and start working on some OU projects.. otherwise go away!!!!
Jason
Quote from: 4Tesla on October 22, 2008, 08:28:55 PM
First time they have seen a sunset??
I can't believe this thread is still alive... you guys need to stop and start working on some OU projects.. otherwise go away!!!!
Jason
i think they are working on some purity bricks. perhaps they are checking them for OU...
density indeed.
Quote from: mindsweeper on October 21, 2008, 07:03:12 PM
TOTAL Dribble, you are a total maniac. You need shooting fool.
You're dumb website says it all. What an IDIOT.
*extends middle finger*
if you keep it up, i will be forced to extend the other middle finger, too.
then you will really be in trouble.
by the way.
Lithorchiptosis to you.
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on October 22, 2008, 08:05:34 PM
from my point of view, anyone who believes in aliens, reptillian devils, angels, ascended masters, jedi masters, pleiadians, sirians, beta reticulans, elves, dwarves, hobgoblins, dopplegangers, dragons, wyverns, xorn, etc. is "deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow".
you want a 'brave new world'? we have a future of limited and partially ruinous warfare to look forward to, if our past is any indication of our future.
you want someone to come save you from the bad things? save yourself. when you wait for, or demand that someone else come save you, you end up with things like government, or galactic federations... ::)
click here for an investigation of religion/christianity and the REAL story of how the bible was/is made (http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/64498/detail/)
and my point of view, is that your point of view is needlessly barren and hostile.
a lifeless world, in which even roaches cannot survive.
sort of like the surface of mars. AFTER the government has exported the total sum of bush's toxic bull**** there.
because it was killing all life in the oceans, on earth.
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on October 22, 2008, 08:05:34 PM
from my point of view, anyone who believes in aliens, reptillian devils, angels, ascended masters, jedi masters, pleiadians, sirians, beta reticulans, elves, dwarves, hobgoblins, dopplegangers, dragons, wyverns, xorn, etc. is "deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow".
you want a 'brave new world'? we have a future of limited and partially ruinous warfare to look forward to, if our past is any indication of our future.
you want someone to come save you from the bad things? save yourself. when you wait for, or demand that someone else come save you, you end up with things like government, or galactic federations... ::)
click here for an investigation of religion/christianity and the REAL story of how the bible was/is made (http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/64498/detail/)
Hi WilbyInebriated
i respect that your are not believing in ET
you might see one of them one day
i have !
but even if you don't have seen one, there are plenty of testimony, i offer you my testimony
i saw many things at night with my mini telescope, i am a great scientist and i can make the difference of what is normal and what is not, when i saw a light looking like a star and going with speed in the sky and then change direction to go far away from earth i have no choice but to be amaze, ok those ships can be from our governement like the triangular one i saw with a flashing light under it
i have another testimony, from my relatives and me, we were 10 persons in an house and 2 hunters in the forest, all the evening we got 20 losts of electricity, very short or for some seconds, never more than one minute, everyone find it funny until the 2 hunters came back next day, they were in shocked, been pursuit by a fire ball in the wood, that was the first time that those 2 old hunters with great experience came back from hunting with nothing, at this moment they did not said that to us, i have just know it some days later when they were willing to tell what happen, now i think that this fire ball was responsible for the lost of electricity while crossing the road
more than testimony, there are plenty of videos, most of them are fake, this the disinfomation's world we are in, everytime there is something good to see there will be a lot of disinformation from the NWO
and the NWO is control by Illuminatis
and the boss of Illuminatis are astral reptilians
ok, i respect that you not believe in astral entity as well
the fact, from my point of view, is that this 14 october non event was a planned disinformation from the NWO
for example, there are plenty of videos on reptilians, why there is 10 fake reptilians videos for one real ?
if the reptilians videos are all fake, then where do they come from ?
my theory is : if you got disinformation on anything, then there must be something there
i do not wait for help, i call for a war, like JFK did 10 days before dying
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on October 22, 2008, 08:05:34 PM
from my point of view, anyone who believes in aliens, reptillian devils, angels, ascended masters, jedi masters, pleiadians, sirians, beta reticulans, elves, dwarves, hobgoblins, dopplegangers, dragons, wyverns, xorn, etc. is "deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow".
you want a 'brave new world'? we have a future of limited and partially ruinous warfare to look forward to, if our past is any indication of our future.
you want someone to come save you from the bad things? save yourself. when you wait for, or demand that someone else come save you, you end up with things like government, or galactic federations... ::)
Spot on. "deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow".
I have the following from a very dear friend who was very active on the overunity hydroxy forums. Youll understand who it was if you had been through the hydroxy threads. I have listened to the audio frequencies he posted and they seem to be doing something, but lets see if it actually does what he says it can. He's sent them to 2012evolution.com and im pasting them for your ease:
Following from: http://2012evolution.com/ascension-audio-frequencies/
The “Ancient Solfeggio†Ascension Frequencies are frequencies that can start your ascension process. This information was sent to 2012evolution.com by an individual named “Ravi.â€
Basically, there are six Holy frequencies in Detail:
0:00 to 1:30 Helps “Liberate Guilt and Fear†- associated with releasing emotional patterns.
1:31 to 3:00 Helps “Undoing Situations and Facilitates Change†- associated with breaking up crystallized emotional patterns.
3:01 to 4:30 Helps “Repair DNA / connecting all the strands†- associated with Transformation and Miracles.
4:31 to 6:00 Helps “Connecting / Relationships†- associated with whole brain quadrant interconnectedness. Connecting Relationships.
6:01 to 7:30 Helps “Awakening Intuition†- associated with intuitive states, non linear knowing.
7:31 to end Helps “Return to the Spiritual Order†- associated with a pure love frequency: unconditional love and returning to Spiritual Order.
These frequencies are available in various forms called “The Holy Solfeggio Frequencies†over the internet but don’t seem to work effectively. So, Ravi created this file to help people easily reach the higher densities. He has tried these and he knows for sure that they work. The best commercial CD available for this is called HOLY HARMONY by Jonathan Goldman with Sarah Benson, but should be used after you finish with the beginning of ascension from the one Ravi created as HOLY HARMONY could overwhelm you.
This download is below via RapidShare.
DO NOT COVERT THIS TO MP3 FORMAT AS IT LOSES ITS EFFECTIVENESS ONCE CONVERTED TO OTHER FORMATS FROM ‘.WAV’ FORMAT. IT WILL NOT WORK IF IT’S NOT IN ITS ORIGINAL .WAV. FORMAT. Try and listen to it with out tinkering the equalizer as this changes the frequency’s effectiveness. Keeping the audio options in flat would be advisable.
NOTE / CAUTION:
1. When listening for the first time, I would advice you to lie down and get to the most comfortable state and switch on the track…or get to the most relaxed position on your chair before you start.
2. Keep the volume at the maximum possible that you could handle.
3. You could feel a pounding sensation at the back of the head starting from the top of the neck to gradually ending at the brow by the time the audio finishes.
4. You might feel nauseated after you finish listening to the audio and a head ache and pounding for sometime later as you’re basically experiencing new Neural pathways being created between both halves of the brain. As this pounding and headache reduces in a little while you’ll feel better / fresher that you have ever felt before..Enjoy this feeling! your ascension process has started.
5. First timers should listen to this before taking a nap or going to bed in the night as the after effects of headaches and the rest are not felt during sleep and you wake up renewed.
6. DO NOT TAKE ANY MEDICINE FOR YOUR HEADACHES… this is very very important. You need to understand that the discomfort of headache and nausea is due to the natural healing process going on and nothing other than that.
7. You would normally sleep for 12 to 16 hours during the healing process till your body is totally healed. You would feel a little tired during the healing but you should be done with the process in about 5 to 6 weeks.
8. Drink lots of water as your body would be discarding most of the toxins built up over time and you need to get as much protein as your body asks for.
9. Listen to the audio till the day you don’t feel the after effects any more after you’re done, as this is an indication that you have received the push needed for ascension and your body and mind would take care till you reach your maximum potential you are meant to.
10. Most of your chakras would be activated during the healing process… Including increased telepathic, clairvoyant and healing abilities(If you would feel a tingling and more than usual warmth in the center of your left palm if you are right handed and the other way round if you are left handed, you need to know that you have the ability to cure the 3-dimensional ailments or diseases of others)… there would be so many new things you would discover about your new abilities!! what I mention here are just a fraction of the whole.
11. DO NOT at any cost abuse these abilities as they are meant to help and to be shared with others and not for personal gain.
DOWNLOAD:
You can Download the Frequencies Audio File by Clicking Here.
http://rapidshare.com/files/155813222/Ravi_s_Ascesion_Audio_Freqs__01_.wav.html
(Use the free download option and wait for the download button to appear after countdown. The file size is approximately 103 Mb.)
ABOUT THE SOLFEGGIO FREQUENCIES
By “Raviâ€
What Are The Ancient Solfeggio Frequencies?
These original sound frequencies were apparently used in Ancient Gregorian Chants, such as the great hymn to St. John the Baptist, along with others that church authorities say were lost centuries ago. The chants and their special tones were believed to impart tremendous spiritual blessings when sung in harmony during religious masses. These powerful frequencies were rediscovered by Dr. Joseph Puleo as described in the book Healing Codes for the Biological Apocalypse by Dr. Leonard Horowitz. I give honor to both of these gentleman for the part they’ve played in helping return these lost frequencies back to humanity.
The Six Solfeggio Frequencies include:
UT â€" 396 Hz â€" Liberating Guilt and Fear
RE â€" 417 Hz â€" Undoing Situations and Facilitating Change
MI â€" 528 Hz â€" Transformation and Miracles (DNA Repair)
FA â€" 639 Hz â€" Connecting/Relationships
SOL â€" 741 Hz â€" Awakening Intuition
LA â€" 852 Hz â€" Returning to Spiritual Order
For example, the third note, frequency 528, relates to the note MI on the scale and derives from the phrase “MI-ra gestorum†in Latin meaning “miracle.†Stunningly, this is the exact frequency used by genetic biochemists to repair broken DNA â€" the genetic blueprint upon which life is based!
A Little History
At the turn of the century the awareness of DNA entered the collective consciousness of the world. We have incarnated into this human experience as divine beings with a blueprint, a set of instructions. We know that a very small percentage (3%) of those instructions make up our physiology.
Carl Sagan writes that most of our genetic information (about 97%) is unused DNA. He refers to this as “genetic gibberish.†Is it possible that most of who we are still lies dormant as our human potential?
In the old paradigm of religion, “potential†remained a mystery to the human mind, therefore we coined a mystical term called “SPIRIT.†“Spirit†was something that was detached from who we were, something we didn’t have and could only be gained through the systems of most religions.
The old paradigm and its premise stated that we began as biology in the womb of our mothers. Telliard deChardin tells us that we are not a human being trying to attain a spiritual experience, but, rather, we are spiritual beings having a human experience. This shift in perception causes a tremendous difference in the way we perceive ourselves in this third/fourth time-space continuum.
Being a student of “A Course In Miracles†in the late 80’s, I was faced with a dichotomy in the idea that we are not a body. I never understood this statement fully until I read a quotation by Albert Einstein which stated:â€Concerning matter, we have been all wrong. What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter.†I believe what is being stated is that at the deepest level we are not separate, as a body, as a spirit, as a soul â€" we are just energy-beings. This is the level of consciousness being opened to us from which a new paradigm is emerging for the purpose of healing all separation. The popular term, “The Divine, is in meâ€- makes “me†separate from the Divine. May I suggest a shift in the saying to: “The Divine, AS me†to remove the separation.
As we move from genetics and concepts like Soul, “Soul Mates†and “Soul work,†we move beyond physical diagnosis, into a new field of quantum physics. In this new field, where consciousness is seen as a unified field where everything is everything else, (T.O.E. Theory - The Theory of Everything) â€"there are no boundaries. There is no “this†or “that;†no you or me. It is a pure field of awareness â€" consciousness. I solved the dichotomy about “we are not our body†by changing my perception of genetics to energetics - realizing that we are not meant to ignore our physiology, but recognize the body as energy, vibrating at a very dense frequency.
How Did The Solfeggio Frequencies Get Lost?
I discovered that these powerful frequencies had been given to the church many years ago for a very spiritual purpose. This was back when the church was a wonderful place for the people in the villages to gather together. The church served as a social, political, and spiritual place. People came to Mass, which at that time, was done in Latin (until Vatican II came along). When people sing in Latin or musical tones, it is very powerful, because it gets through all of the limited thought forms, and into deeper levels of the subconscious â€" accessing insights beyond belief systems.
As described above by Dr. Candice Pert, PhD, energy and vibration go all the way to the molecular level. She states that we have 70 different receptors on the molecules and when vibration and frequency reaches that far they begin to vibrate. Moreover, she observed, “as they begin to vibrate they sort of touch each other, and tickle each other, and they play and mount each other.†It’s this whole energetic dance ritual, at the cellular level, that opens the chromosomes and exposes the DNA to the frequencies. When we do toning, drumming, chanting, or tuning forks â€" it can be a way to direct energy for transformational purposes.
Vibration and sound can be used, like most things, either with positive intention or negative intention. Used negatively, it’s nothing more than control and manipulation. Most of the world has been built upon control and manipulation by the way we communicate thru language. A lot of different texts, such as the Bible, talk about the importance of just making Soundâ€"whether it’s chants, drumming, or speaking in tongues (such as the charismatic fundamentalists do), they are just different ways that people are accessing deeper levels of themselves. I suggest to you that the Solfeggio Tuning Forks are an even purer ways of doing that with positive intention.
When Dr. Joseph Puleo was researching the tones, he was directed to a Monsignor at a university in Spokane WA, who was head of the mediaeval department. Following a 20 minute conversation, the
“Can you decipher Mediaeval Latin?’
‘Absolutely!’
‘And you know the musical scale and everything?’
‘Absolutely!’
‘Well then, could you tell me what ‘UT - queant laxis’ means?’
After a brief pause, the Monsignor quipped, ‘It’s none of your business’
Then he hung up.â€
Additionally, as Dr. Puleo researched the tones further, he came across a book on Gregorian chants by Professor Emeritus Willi Apel who “argued that the chants being used today were totally incorrect, and undermined the spirit of the Catholic faith.â€1 Moreover, Professor Apel reported that “one-hundred fifty-two chants were apparently missing. The Catholic Church presumably “lost†these original chants. The chants were based on the ancient original scale of six musical notes called the Solfeggio.â€1 Trust me, nothing is lost, it’s just neatly put away; however, they cannot hide from the masses what is energetically placed within the Soul.
According to Professor Willi Apel,1 “The orgin of what is now called Solfeggio…arose from a Mediaeval hymn to John the Baptist which has this peculiarity that the first six lines of the music commenced respectively on the first six successive notes of the scale, and thus the first syllable of each line was sung to a note one degree higher that the first syllable of the line that preceded it. By degrees these syllables became associated and identified with their respective notes and as each syllable ended in a vowel, they were found to be peculiatly adapted for vocal use. Hence “Ut†was artificially replaced by “Do.†Guido of Arezzo was the first to adopt them in the 11th century, and Le Marie, a French musician of the 17th century added “Si†for the seventh note of the scale, in order to complete the series.â€
Further research states that, “Pope Johannes later became a saint - Saint Iohannes - and then the scale was changed. The seventh note “Si†was added from his name. “Si†later became “Ti.†These changes significantly altered the frequencies sung by the masses. The alterations also weakened the spiritual impact of the Church’s hymns. Because the music held mathmatic resonance, frequencies capable of spiritually inspiring mankind to be more “Godlike,†the changes affected alterations in conceptual thought as well, further distancing humanity from God.†In other words, whenever you sing a Psalm, it is music to the ears. But it was originally intended to be music for the soul as well or the “secret ear.†Thus by changing the notes, high matrices of thought and to a great extent well being, was squelched. Now it is time to recover these missing notes.â€1
I’d heard of do, re, me, fa, so, la, ti, do. I particularly responded to it whenever I hear that song by Julie Andrews from “The Sound of Music.†I literally have a “brain cell firing†as it is engraved into my brain, and I see her coming over the mountain in the movie. I didn’t realize this was actually a second, modified scale. The original Solfeggio scale was actually: UT, RE, MI, FA, SO, LA.
Looking at the definitions of each of the original syllables, using hidden entries from Webster’s Dictionary and the Original Greek Apocrypha, I have determined that these original frequencies can be used for: Turning grief to joy, helping the person connect with their Source to bring forth miracles, DNA repair, connecting with spiritual family, solving situations & becoming more intuitive, and, finally, returning to spiritual order.2 Through music these tones can assist all the channels in staying open and keep the life force (the Chi) literally flowing thru the Chakra System quite freely. Is this is what the six electro-magnetic frequencies were to accomplish that were put into “lost†hymns and Gregorian chants?
I think we are living in a tremendously wonderful time, and rather than seeing the glass as “half empty,†I see it as “half full.†Rather than accepting “CNN’s perspective†of the world view, it’s about finding perspective thru the vision of your own heart. It is about change and transformation of mankind to the next level of evolution. We, as Spiritual Light Workers, have made ourselves accessible at this time, by Divine Appointment, to be here to help those in humanity who choose (it’s all based upon irrevocable choice) to stay, or to go. Those who have chosen to stay will come into our lives, and we have already agreed to assist them.
It’s all about assisting other people. It’s not to be their “Healer,†but to assist them in knowing who they are and connecting with their true Source. It is about providing an atmosphere of non-judgement, a Sacred Space, for the purpose of healing themselves. We should be continuously teaching while assisting people. The old paradigm teaches us to keep the information among the professionals. The new paradigm is to share the information, and empower the client. Everyone you work withâ€"whether it’s Reiki, Massage, Tuning Forks or other modalities you are using, you should feel that you’ve empowered that person, so they can extend this information to someone else. Healing has become about our evolution by reconnecting our additional strands of DNA. Healing is also about assisting the person in restoring themselves to a state of “Spiritual Wholeness.â€
1 “Healing Codes for the Biological Apocalypse†by Dr. Leonard Horowitz, p. 345-6
2 Ibid.
3 From “Man’s Cosmic Game†by Guiliana Conforto
The 3, 6, and 9
As we look at the six original Solfeggio frequencies, using the Pythagorean method, we find the base or root vibrational numbers are 3,6, & 9. Nicola Tesla tells us, and I quote: “If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.â€
John Keely, an expert in electromagnetic technologies, wrote that the vibrations of “thirds, sixths, and ninths, were extraordinarily powerful.†In fact, he proved the “vibratory antagonistic thirds was thousands of times more forceful in separating hydrogen from oxygen in water than heat.†In his “Formula of Aqueous Disintegration†he wrote that, “molecular dissociation or disintegration of both simple and compound elements, whether gaseous or solid, a stream of vibratory antagonistic thirds, sixths, or ninths, on their chord mass will compel progressive subdivisions. In the disintegration of water the instrument is set on thirds, sixths, and ninths, to get the best effects.â€
In the book of Genesis it states that there are six days of creation. Yet many talk about the creation week â€" or seven days, and the Christian Bible views the number seven as the number of completeness. Why Seven? It is due to the influence of the Near Eastern culture at the time in which Jesus lived, when it was believed that there were only seven planets.
When wrestling with adding a 7th number, I was mystically drawn to an article in Discover Magazine. In his newest book, Just Six Numbers, Rees argues that six numbers underlie the fundamental physical properties of the universe, and that each is the precise value needed to permit life to flourish. In laying out this premise, he joins a long, intellectually daring line of cosmologists and astrophysicists (not to mention philosophers, theologians, and logicians) stretching all the way back to Galileo, who presume to ask: Why are we here? As Rees puts it, “These six numbers constitute a recipe for the universe.â€He adds that if any one of the numbers were different “even to the tiniest degree, there would be no stars, no complex elements, no life.†(From Discovery Magazine). As some authors have speculated, could these tones have played a role in the miraculous shattering of Jericho’s great wall in six days before falling on the seventh day? Some scientists are now stating that if we have been created, we most likely would have been sung into existence.Is it possible that the six days of creation mentioned in Genesis represent six fundamental frequencies that underlie the universe? Religious scholars believe both events occurred as a result of sounds being spoken or played.
Other scientists, including the geniuses Nikola Tesla, Raymond Rife, as well as Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, and Chladni, all must have known about, and used the concept of, the inherent power of threes, sixes, and nines. So we are dealing with three powerful numbers: 3-6-9. Everyone of the six Solfeggio Tuning Forks all add up, individually to the Pythagorean scheme of 3-6-9. In fact, because there are two sets of 3-6-9 (anagrams) in the solfeggio, they are even more powerful as these combinations serve as “portals†to other dimensions!
Just Intonation â€" 12 Tone Equal Temperament
As I observed earlier, another reason these Ancient Solfeggio frequencies became “lost†was because of the change in tuning practices throughout history. The standard tuning method for the past 200 years is quite different from the tuning practices dating from antiquity through about the 16th century A.D. These ancient tuning practices used a system of tuning known asJust Intonation. The tuning practice adopted for western cultures during the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries, and used today, is known as Twelve-Tone Equal Temperament. The explanation of the fundamentals of these tuning systems is far too complex for this agenda, but the following quote from a book written by David B. Doty, titled The Just Intonation Primer, should give an idea of the confinement that music has been relegated to. “Essentially, music has been placed in a box of limitationsâ€â€" as the result of the rigidity imposed by the Twelve-Tone Equal Temperament tuning standards in use today.
“Although it is difficult to describe the special qualities of Just (Intonation) intervals to those who have never heard them, words such as clarity, purity, smoothness, and stability come readily to mind. The supposedly consonant intervals and chords of (12-Tone) Equal Temperament, which deviate from simple rations to varying degrees, sound rough, restless, or muddy in comparison.â€
Just Intonation can be found in many of the great Fathers of Classical Music â€" Beethoven and Hyden, just to name a few. They did not use this 12-tone temperament and I think that is why we have a richer experience when we hear music that was composed several hundred years ago. Classical Music based on Just Intonation gives us a different rapport with time and space and brings us into our higher chakras.
Native American chanting is many times based on Just Intonation. The chanting seems to sound monotone, but we are finding out that within the monotone sound is multi-dimensional harmonics.
How these different types of tones affect our health
Consequently, since all music in our contemporary world (from commercials, to modern hymns and symphonies) has been composed utilizing the 12-Tone Equal Temperament Scale, they all have vibrational limits. As a result, vibrational frequency of the tones of modern music can create situations such as “boxed-in thinking,†stuffed and suppressed emotions; and fear-based †lack†consciousnessâ€"all of which then tend to manifest into physical symptoms of “dis-ease.â€
This is in contrast to music created from the Ancient Solfeggio Scale, which stimulates the vibration of expanded creativity, easier problem solving and holistic health.
Again, it should be noted that although there are contemporary notes that approximate the Solfeggio tones, they are not the same frequencies as the ancient tones. Example: The Solfeggio tone, Mi. vibrates to 528 Hz. Theclosest, comparable, contemporary tone is C, above Middle C, which vibrates at 512 Hz. Our research indicates that the vibrational frequencies contained in the Solfeggio tones hold these original healing potentials.
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duplicate.
Quote from: supermike on October 19, 2008, 07:37:46 AM
Provable sighting, no camera necessary.
I humbly predict that an invisible spacecraft of huge dimensions, (fill in your own numbers metric or imperial), will be hovering over (fill in your home town), today, (and for the rest of the week).
If you look out your window at the sky and can't see it, that's it! :)
That's amazing, Supermike. I couldn't see it as well. I felt its presence, and it was
big, as the actress said to the bishop.
Paul.
Quote from: Gheller J on October 23, 2008, 07:51:14 AM
The “Ancient Solfeggio†Ascension Frequencies are frequencies that can start your ascension process.
Howdy Geller J,
Sound is not the only thing that can effect you in this way. Stimulus can come through any sense including EM energy. The catalyst is not important as the effect. You don't need to download 100MB file to do this with sound. Setup you frequency generator to run at those rates and attach a speaker. A piece of computer software can do the same. Or your synthesizer or a guitar. Better yet, build a circuit that can generate those frequencies, like a PIC project...
OK, Mo Later...
Quote from: z.monkey on October 23, 2008, 11:43:05 AM
Howdy Geller J,
Sound is not the only thing that can effect you in this way. Stimulus can come through any sense including EM energy. The catalyst is not important as the effect. You don't need to download 100MB file to do this with sound. Setup you frequency generator to run at those rates and attach a speaker. A piece of computer software can do the same. Or your synthesizer or a guitar. Better yet, build a circuit that can generate those frequencies, like a PIC project...
OK, Mo Later...
Hey Z.mon
There r a lot of these freqs over the youtube but if you listen 2 those & this theres a huge huge difference! this actually does something I cant explain d exact feeling but you can actually feel d pounding inside your head along with the music like he says and u hv other ambience tracks of an ocean and birds chirping running in d background n dis is soothing. U only need to compare to see the diff.
Abt the synt, i think their output is tuned to the 12 Tone Equal Temperament and not to Just Intonation.
I've tried d frequency generator part when i was downloadin this file, but these a lotta diff from d posted file to what is generated, compare the diff n you'll understand what im sayin, so I felt why reinvent d wheel when its already done ;D
Gh. J.
I was sent d followin whe I asked what n how to find more about d followin
"Looking at the definitions of each of the original syllables, using hidden entries from Webster’s Dictionary and the Original Greek Apocrypha"
I received d pasted info below
and about the best way to listen is by supposedly using in-earphones n he gets d best output on his 'Sennheiser in-earphones' on an ipod. Theres a pic he sent along of what he uses n wich I attached.
Gh. J.
From: "Healing Codes for the Biological Apocalypse"
Evolution of the Gregorian Musical "Solfeggio" (Scale) form Initially Six (6) Notes
The Original Solfeggio
1. Ut - queant laxis
2. Re - sonare fibris
3. Mi - ra gestorum
4. Fa - muli tuorum
5. Sol - ve polluti
6. La -0 biireatum
The Earlier Modified Solfeggio
1. Ut - queant laxis
2. Re - sonare fibris
3. Mi - ra gestorum
4. Fa - muli tuorum
5. Sol - ve polluti
6. La - biireatum
7. SI - Sancto Iohannes
The Current Modified Solfeggio
1. Do - queant laxis
2. Re - sonare fibris
3. Mi - ra gestorum
4. Fa - muli tuorum
5. Sol - ve polluti
6. La - biireatum
7. TI - Sancto Iohannes
(From Page 177: Fig 5.6):
The Secret Solfeggio Frequencies: Sound Vibration Rates for Creation and Destruction:
1. Ut = 396 = 9
2. Re = 417 = 3
3. Mi = 528 = 6
4. Fa = 639 = 9
5. Sol = 741 = 3
6. La = 852 = 6
(From Pages 166 & 167):
Definitions of Tones in the Latin Solfeggio Including "Hidden Entries" From Webster's Dictionary
Note 1: There are typos on this page. Most of them come from the book, as I typed it exactly as in the book, as best as I was able.
Note 2: Emphasis added by italics in each definition denotes special relevance to the book.
UT-quent laxis
1. a syllable used for the first note in the diatonic scale in an early solminzation system and later replaced by do. 2. the syllable sung to this note in a medieval hymn to St. John the Baptist. <Gk. -Gamut- 1. the entire scale or range; the Gamut of dramatic emotion from grief to joy. 2. the whole series of recognized musical notes [1425-75]; late ME (Middle English)><ML (Medieval Latin)-contraction, of Gamma, used to represent the first lowest tone of (G) in the Medieval Scale Ut, Re, Mi, Fa, So, La, Si. <Gk - Gamma- 1. the third letter of the Greek alphabet. 2. the third in a series of items. 3. a star that is usually the third brightest in a constellation. 4. a unit of weight equal to one microgram. 5. a unit of magnetic field strength equal to 10 to the fifth power gauss. (quent: needing), (laxis: loose; axis-an affiliation of two or more nations. Also Axis Powers.)
RE-sonare fibris (Res-o-nance)
1 a: the state of quality of being resonant. b(1) a vibration of large amplitude in a mechanical or electrical system caused by a relatively small periodic stimulus of the same or nearly the same period as the natural vibration period of the system 2. the prolongation of sound by reflection; reverberation. 3a. Amplification of a source of speech sounds, esp. of phonation, by sympathic vibration of the air, eesp. in the cavities of the mouth, nose and pharynx. b. a characteristic quality of a particular voice speech sound imparted by the distribution of amplitudes among the cavities of the head, chest, and throat. 4a. a larger than normal vibration produced in response to a stimulus whose frequency is close to the natural frequency of the vibrating system, as an electrical circuit, in which a value much larger than average is maintained for a given frequency. 5a. a quality of enriched significance, profundity, or allusiveness; a poem has a resonance beyond its surface meaning. 6. the chemical phenomenon in which the arrangements of the valance electrons of a molecule changes back and forth between two or more states. (in percussing for diagnostic purposes) a sound produced when air is present [1485-95]; <MF (Middle French), <L Resonantia, Echo=Reson (are) to resound + Antia-ance. (Re-a prefix, occurring orig. in loan words from Latin, use to form verbs denoting action in a backward direction, Action in answer to or intended to undo a situation, or that performance of the new action brings back an earlier state of affairs. (fibris: fibre string, vocal cord.)
MI-ra gestorum (Miracle)
1. an extraordinary occurrence that surpasses all known human powers or natural forces and is ascribed to a divine or supernatural cause esp. to God. 2. a superb or surpassing example of something; wonder, marvel {1125-75}, ME<L Miraculum=Mira(Ri) to wonder at. fr (French): sighting, aiming to hold against the light. (gestorum: gesture; movements to express thought, emotion, any action, communication, etc. intended for effect.)
FA-muli tuorum (Famuls.)
... plural Famuli, 1a. servant/s, or attendant/s, esp. of a scholar or a magician [1830 - 40<L (Latin), servant, of family. (Tourum - quorum - 1. the number of members of a group required to be present to transact business or carry out an activity legally. usu. a majority. 2. a particularly chosen group. [1425-75;<L quorum of whom; from a use of the word in commissions written in Latin specifying a quorum.)
SO-lve polluti (So-lve')
1. to find the answer or explanation for; clear-up; explain; to solve a mystery or puzzle, to work out theanswer or solution to (a mathematical problem. ) [1400-50, Late ME<L Solvere to loosen, release dissolve=so-var, after velarl, of se-set-luere to wash; (see Ablution.) Ablution n. 1. a cleansing with water or other liquid, esp. as a religious ritual. [1350-1400]. (Pollutii-pollute-luted, 1. to make foul or unclean,)
LA-bii reatum (Labi-al)
1. of pertaining to or resembling a Labium. 2. of pertaining to the lips, 3. (of a speech sound) articulated using one of both lips. 4. of or designating the surface of a tooth facing the lips. 5. the labial speech sound, esp. consonant, [1585-95]; ML lingual. (reatum - reaction - 1. a reverse movement or tendency; an action in a reverse direction or manner. 2. a movement toward extreme political conservatism; 3. a desire to return to an earlier system or order. 3. action in response to some influence, event etc.; 4. a physiological response to an action or condition. b. a physiological change indicating sensitivity to a foreign matter.) 6. mech. the instantaneous response of a system to an applied force, manifested as the exertion of a force equal in magnitude, but opposite in direction, to the applied force [1635-45].
SI (Sancte Johannes)
1. a person of exceptional holiness, formally recognized by the Christian Church esp. by Canonization. 2. a person of great virtue or benevolence. 3. a founder or patron, as of a movement. 4. a member of any various Christian groups. 5. to acknowledge as a Saint. Canonize [1150-1200]; ME Seinte. Canon: 1. an ecclesiastical rule or law enacted by a council or other competent authority and, in the Roman Catholic Church, approved by the Pope. 3. a body of rules, principles, or standards accepted as axiomatic and universally binding, esp. in a field of study of art. 6. any officially recognized set of sacred books. 10. the part of the mass between Sanctus and the communion. 11. consistent, note-for-note imitation of one melodic line by another, in which the second line starts after the first. (axiomatic). 1. pertaining to or ofthe nature of an axiom; self-evident. 2. a universally accepted principle or rule. 3. a proposition in logic or mathematics that is assumed without proof for the sake of studying consequences that follow from it.
A light ship has appeared :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORBA8VotF_I
shooter to Kirk can you confirm the anomaly?
http://www.siriusufo.org/tr/?fx=sayfa_ac&url=html/english/kumburgaz_2008.asp
Why is this thread still at the top of the list? ::) ::)
Well, uh, First Contact, Alien Technologies, Advanced Human Powers, Electrogravity Ships... Ray Guns... Space Chix!
Uhura: Captain, I am receiving chatter from all over the planet about unfamiliar objects...
Kirk: Mr. Spock, what do you see on the ships sensors?
Spock: Confirmed... There are multitudinous instances of the same object that has befriended us...
Kirk: WTF ???
Kirk: Mr. Sulu, Tactical assessment?
Sulu: Still no evidence of armament, sir...
Kirk: What... could they possibly want...
Scotty to Kirk: Beam Z.Monkey and Shooter001 to the closest class M.. we can't stand their BS anymore!
Lol :D Thanks for adding some humor to this thread Cap'n
Ok
I disassemble my project of the magnet rotating and make a project of aether cold field.
:D :D :D
More on for overunit.Freenrgy
Regards
People need to get off their behind and do some activism, for example the million fax on Washington., ACTIVISM.
The UFO's are not going to come to you on a silver plate with open arms, the military shoot them down and retrieve them, they have been doing it for years
EVIDENCE IS HERE-http://panacea-bocaf.org/disclosureproject.htm
People need to Stop walking around with the excuse for their head in the clouds
SIGN THE PETITIONS, IF YOU WANT UFO TECHNOLOGY.-http://panacea-bocaf.org/disclosureproject.htm
You need to FORCE the government to release it. Forget this federation of bullshitter's , or 2012 bullshitter's, do some thing practical ;).
Thx
Ash
Aliens come here to fuel up on water. What do we have alot of that no other planet has. (besides a moon or two around jupiter or some where) Liquified hydrogen and oxygen. What do we run rockets off? Liquified hydrogen and oxygen. Lets stop fucking around here. The only reason water is water is because it is loosely bound together in a 7molecule ring. This ring takes alot less energy to bust up then what is sucked up when hydrogen and oxygen implode. Bust up this ring and it becomes h+ ions oh- ions gaseous. Keep up the stimulation in the presense of oxygen and you get h2diatomic and 02 diatomic. You can go futher and create h3 h4 whatever you want it just a matter of what kinda plasma you want to utilize. They have been making crop circles trying to tell us how to use microwave stimulation of water to produce stable plasma's for years. You don't need atomic reactors to make manmade elements. Fucking Nazi scientists with there heads up there ass are the ones that were so smart and sent us down the split the atom road. They didn't even have enough balls to stand up to some raving lunatic that was going to create a master race. Like any races shit isn't going to smell.
it must look like a religion for some on this forum
the channel-thing is indeed questionable - our whole society is build upon christian or muslim or any others Channelings, moses was a channeler too, who today would believe in a guy that came from a mountain with rules in his hand.
Our Society is based upon people who 'channel' their decisions (in believing in a god, nowadays money sometimes Environment, here free energy)
If it's not a free will decision it's probably a failure.
i just want to say this to reasure everybody that they are right ;)
and
there is a phenomena
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=815382711822393043&hl=de (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=815382711822393043&hl=de)
i was reminded of sparks water-theory
Quote from: reada on October 24, 2008, 01:39:35 PM
it must look like a religion for some on this forum
the channel-thing is indeed questionable - our whole society is build upon christian or muslim or any others Channelings, moses was a channeler too, who today would believe in a guy that came from a mountain with rules in his hand.
Our Society is based upon people who 'channel' their decisions (in believing in a god, nowadays money sometimes Environment, here free energy)
If it's not a free will decision it's probably a failure.
i just want to say this to reasure everybody that they are right ;)
and
there is a phenomena
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=815382711822393043&hl=de (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=815382711822393043&hl=de)
i was reminded of sparks water-theory
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Exodus 24
9 Then Moses, Aaron, Nadab, Abihu, and the seventy elders of Israel climbed up the mountain. 10 There they saw the God of Israel. Under his feet there seemed to be a surface of brilliant blue lapis lazuli, as clear as the sky itself. 11 And though these nobles of Israel gazed upon God, he did not destroy them. In fact, they ate a covenant meal, eating and drinking in his presence!
12 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Come up to me on the mountain. Stay there, and I will give you the tablets of stone on which I have inscribed the instructions and commands so you can teach the people.†13 So Moses and his assistant Joshua set out, and Moses climbed up the mountain of God.
14 Moses told the elders, “Stay here and wait for us until we come back. Aaron and Hur are here with you. If anyone has a dispute while I am gone, consult with them.â€
15 Then Moses climbed up the mountain, and the cloud covered it. 16 And the glory of the Lord settled down on Mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it for six days. On the seventh day the Lord called to Moses from inside the cloud. 17 To the Israelites at the foot of the mountain, the glory of the Lord appeared at the summit like a consuming fire. 18 Then Moses disappeared into the cloud as he climbed higher up the mountain. He remained on the mountain forty days and forty nights.
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Well if you people just read the bible once, or just google for more information on the subject...
Moses was not an channeler it's pretty clear if you read some verses.
New Age is an religion, look it up.
Quote from: 4Tesla on October 16, 2008, 09:32:49 PM
I can't believe that this thread is still going! Seriously, get some help!!
Hans, like I, just wants you all to come back to reality! I believe that some of you should get a mental evaluation and get on some medication! A chemical imbalance in your brain is what is responsible for this fantasy. What is dangerous is when people that have this chemical imbalance get together... They start feeding off each other and this thread is a result of what happens.
Jason
Well said im with you.
QuoteQuote from: 4Tesla on October 17, 2008, 01:32:49 AM
I can't believe that this thread is still going! Seriously, get some help!!
Hans, like I, just wants you all to come back to reality! I believe that some of you should get a mental evaluation and get on some medication! A chemical imbalance in your brain is what is responsible for this fantasy. What is dangerous is when people that have this chemical imbalance get together... They start feeding off each other and this thread is a result of what happens.
Jason
Quote from: IMWITHUNUTAZ on October 25, 2008, 02:38:32 PM
Well said im with you.
Just ridicule them, they will go. It's an overunity forum, junk like this should be deleted, nip it in the bud I say.
Damn guys, just let it die... don't post!
I downloaded a 'junior Channeler's Kit' a month or so back, and have been trying to "channel" 6 of 9' from Startrek.
No luck so far, no progress to report...Uhura is starting good at this point...the current version. :)
Regerds..
Did the aliens forget or something? Maybe they misunderstood, and thought our calendar was different or something? Or maybe, the government gave everyone in 3 states hush money to keep quiet? It must be a conspiracy? Maybe they forgot to uncloak their space craft?
Or... just maybe... wait... what's that smell... it kinda smells like... BULLSH!T !!!!
Pardon the negative remark, but this is dumb.
Spock: Captain, the object has suddenly become visible to our sensors.
Kirk: What... is it...
Spock: The sensors say it is... light... pure energy...
Kirk: duh... ???
Spock: It has released a probe sir...
Uhura: Captain there is an incoming visual transmission...
Kirk: Put it up...
Spock: The probe is on a collision course with the Enterprise...
Kirk: Checkov, Evasive maneuvers, 1/2 impulse drive...
Checkov: Aye, sir!
Kirk: Mr. Spock, is it a weapon?
Spock: It is not moving at ballistic speed.
Uhura: Sir there is an incoming audio transmission, it's Z.Monkey...
Kirk: Where the hell... has he been...
Kirk: Uhura, put him on audio...
Z.Monkey (over scratchy subspace radio): Permission to come aboard Enterprise?
Kirk: Granted, out:
Kirk: Uhura, end transmission...
Kirk: Mr. Sulu, get a security team down to the shuttle bay...
Kirk: Bring Z.Monkey to the conference room when he is aboard...
Kirk: Mr. Spock, your with me. (heading of to the turbolift)...
Kirk and Spock in the conference room:
Kirk: Well, at least we got my favorite shuttlecraft back...
Spock: Indeed sir...
Conference room doors slice open, Z.Monkey walks in,escorted with two armed red shirts...
Kirk: Report, Z.Monkey...
Z.Monkey: I have a lot of information, sir...
Z.Monkey: I need to interface my Toughbook with the ships computer, sir...
Kirk: Mr. Spock give him a hand...
Z.Monkey: That's OK, Sir... I've got it...
Z.Monkey: I just need to disconnect the library computer, just a sec...
Z.Monkey: OK, this ought to... RIP, bzzzttttt.......
Z.Monkey: Ah, there we go...
Kirk: What did you do to the library computer?
Z.Monkey: It's OK, should be a cakewalk for Scotty...
Z.Monkey: OK, have some new information....
Howdy Y'all,
OK, CNN is reporting a UFO sighting in Katy, Texas.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/10/25/pkg.tx.more.ufo.sightings.wfaa
This was first reported on WFAA which is a local ABC channel.
This is the first time that CNN has reported a UFO sighting since the Stephenville, Texas incident in January 2008...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/14/ufo.sightings.ap/index.html
It is fitting that these first public sightings are in Texas. When the Roswell incident happened, Fort Worth, Texas was where the UFO pieces came first. Fort Worth, specifically the Naval Air Station, was like "Area 51' of the WWII era. There is a long history of alien technologies in Texas. And you thought we only had cattle and oil....
Blessed Be...
Howdy Y'all,
Here is an update from Mark Kimmel:
http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Marks_Corner/
Blessed Be:
Friday, October 17, 2008
Capitalism
The following information was provided on 10/17/08. This is my 11th posting to Mark’s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order.
Capitalism evolved to its present form over a period of several hundred years. It was transported to the world through colonialism. The British and other empires introduced it to their colonies.
Capitalism had its roots in the desire of ordinary people to invent something to take them out of their dependence on the largess of the king. In the days of feudalism, a serf would work for his master, retaining a portion of what he produced as his reward. Then a serf would barter with other serfs for what else he desired. This system was unfair, completely controlled by the master, and kept ordinary people at a subsistence level. It was the tradesman. who broke that scheme of things and created a merchant class. With the merchant class came the bankers who held people’s money. The rise of the so-called middle class came from those roots. In its earliest days, capitalism was based on a monetary system that had intrinsic value.
The creation of a monetary system without intrinsic value, i.e. a paper currency with no backing, is an invention that has historically led to a build-up of false prosperity and then a precipitous fall. This has been repeated throughout the history of capitalism.
Along with its indispensable partners, oil and other fossil fuels, capitalism created the climate for a population explosion. Without fiat currencies and oil, the planet’s current population could not be fed, clothed, or housed. Without fiat currencies and oil, the population of the planet would be smaller by about 90%. Without fiat currencies and oil, the rape of Earth could have not occurred in such an extreme manner.
The demise of the control pyramid based on wealth is at hand. Banking systems and their many extensions, the backbones of capitalism are showing cracks worldwide. Dependence on fossil fuel is revealing its folly. Keep in mind that the truth is not as reported in the media. Capitalism will not recover from this breakdown. The capitalist system, with its dependence on fiat currency and oil, will be totally shattered in the coming months.
Capitalism will ultimately be replaced with an economic system that is amenable to the general population of the planet. The system that operates on my home planet is such that each person has sufficient money to meet his or her needs. It is not a question of “earning†money. Money is supplied in sufficient quantity to allow each person to accomplish that which he or she wishes for his or her life. There is no structure in which money is accumulated in order to dominate others. Money simply is. Nor is there a barter system. People give to each other without thought of getting something in return. Yes, I know this sounds utopian, but that is our system and it works. As I stated in an earlier communication, my planet transitioned from the old to the new.
Now to interim time, during the next few months, the next years, the monetary system will return to relying on that which has some intrinsic value. Precious metals will be one way to accomplish this; another way is barter. Think of what people wish, what they find of necessity, those things will be used for barter. In primitive societies it was agricultural goods or domesticated animals. In more advanced societies it will be harvested produce, canned goods, and necessities. Yes, a can of Vienna sausages will work, as will cigarettes and whisky. But on a more practical level, oil and seasonings will do better. Salt will be a good barter item; it was used before.
The demise of the current economic system will mean that a smaller population will reside on this planet. Many of your current inhabitants will choose to abandon ship to seek an existence that is more in line with the economic system and energies they know. They will decide that they do not wish to advance to a planet with an untried economic system and no fossil fuels, or they may decide they do not wish to live through the interim time. That is acceptable to everyone involved, the humans of the new Earth, and those of us from other planets and the celestials. Since all is energy, everyone’s choice will be accomplished quite easily. There will be a bifurcation of those who wish to live through the interim time and make a contribution to the new Earth, and those who do not. It is up to each individual to choose. Parents may choose for their children.
The current structure is collapsing. A new one will replace it. There will be an interim time of adjustment. We, your brothers and sisters from other star systems, are here to assist. I am Justine of the planet Supsten of the Altairian star system. I leave you with my blessing.
That’s it for today folks. I am being told that there will be more in the days and weeks ahead.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
Howdy Y'all:
'Nuther update from Mark Kimmel:
Blessed Be...
Sunday, October 19, 2008
Earth speaks
The following information was provided on 10/19/08. This is my 12th posting to Mark’s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order. Note: When this being asked to communicate with me and have the results published, I was overwhelmed. After transcribing the following I have things in a new perspective.
Let us welcome Earth who has a communication for us.
Walk with your bare feet in my grass; wade in my steams, lakes, and oceans. Touch me as you walk along a forested trail or along the beach. Revel in my beauty as you witness a sunset or gaze upon a panorama. I am Earth; I give unselfishly to those who dwell with me.
A few billion years ago God created me; it was a cooperative effort to which my soul agreed. I became a beautiful and wondrous place filled with life. Your scientists are correct in that they see this taking place over a long period of time. It did indeed require a long time to develop my beauty. It was as if I were a young child, who grew into the beauty of fullness. Your pictures from space show me as a beautiful globe. I am indeed beautiful; I am glorious. I am one of the most beautiful planets in this galaxy. Revel in my beauty. Soak it into your very deepest crevice. I define beauty for those who dwell upon me. Now, I am changing from what I have been in the recent past to what has been my destiny.
Let me give you a brief vision of what I will be when I have returned to my beauty. First and foremost, I will radiate so all in the universe to know me. I will shine with iridescent colors of blue and green. Blue because my oceans will be clean and pure. Green because most of the land will be covered with lush vegetation. No more will I have deserts. No more will I have ice and snow. I will become a temperate paradise for all.
I am being returned to the lushness enjoyed when I was much younger, but not as far back as when dinosaurs roamed my surface. No, I will not be the home for giant beasts; rather I will be the home of a conscious race of humans. I will be a lush paradise. I will have birds, animals, and fish in great abundance. Most importantly, all will enjoy a harmonious relationship.
Many years ago, when the dark energy invaded me, all of my natural systems were contorted. New species of plants, fish, birds, and animals were introduced, species I had not known. Out of self-preservation, some of the animals that resided on my surface were transformed into carnivorous beasts, as were some fish and birds.
But I get ahead of my story; in coordination with God’s plan, those from off-planet introduced all my plants and animals. I was to be a grand experiment, housing the plants, fish, birds, and animals native to other planets, an experiment to see if such a vast diversity could live together on a single sphere. So they brought animals and plants from many other places. Some readily adapted to their new home, others did not. Some died off, other prospered until a few million years later a balance was achieved. Those who had seeded this planet were pleased with their handiwork.
It was only after this great handiwork was completed that the first humans were introduced to me. Those from other planets brought four races here. When they came they were very conscious, aware of who they were and from whence they had come. They were able to communicate with me, with each other, and with my animals and my plants. Everything was provided for them. They lived off fruits and nuts, and other foods of my bounty. They did not fight among themselves; they cared for each other. In the beginning it was a veritable paradise for all who occupied my surface. In the beginning, there were none who lived beneath. In the beginning, I was a salubrious home to my new guests, for they saw themselves as guests on me. They honored all that they found here and did not destroy except to consume what they required.
Imagine how that was. Imagine the beauty, the tranquility. I was very happy to have my new guests. I was of the light; my guests were of the light. I felt that I had fulfilled all that God had created me for. I was a happy mother with many children: human, animal, and plant. As I looked upon it, it was blissful paradise. My oceans, lakes, and streams were pure and fresh. My air was clean and fresh. My land was without scars. The humans trod upon me softly; all was in harmony.
The dark energy being was born of a desire to experiment by moving away from the light. This great energy entity was, and still is, very powerful and very vast. It moved into this sector of the galaxy with the intent of dominating it. I screamed out to God that I did not wish to be part of this. God replied that I was to allow myself to cooperate with this darkness, to allow it to discover for itself what it was like to invade and conquer. I had been created with this role in mind; I had agreed to play this role. Like you I too had a contract that I agreed to before my creation in the physical. I agreed to become the stage upon which a great drama was to be played. Coming from a place of great love for all, I was to endure in order for the dark energy to find its limits and return to the light.
The dark energy slowed my rotation and shifted my pole so that now a part of me faced away from the sun, so that a portion of my atmosphere and water would become cold and dark. It was a great struggle, I did not wish to face so much of my surface away from the sun for such a long time. In the end, the darkness prevailed and cold descended onto my surface. This changed the climate for those who dwelt my surface. Some of them wished to abandon me entirely. We made an agreement and I welcomed them into the bosom of my interior. There they created a civilization of a kind not know before on this planet. There they were able to hide and avoid much of the darkness. In the process they transformed themselves into a new species tolerant to the heat of my core.
In addition to tilting my rotation, the darkness placed an artificial satellite in orbit around me. One purpose the moon was to tug at me constantly, to remind me that the darkness was controlling me. I resisted, until a balance was created between the desires of the dark energy and that which I would tolerate. I did not easily give up my tranquility and my beauty, but like a wild horse, I was eventually tamed. However, like the horse, I did not stop being a horse, I merely became accustomed to the bridal and saddle: the moon and my new tilt.
The dark energy then began to work on those who dwelled on my surface. The dark created competition out of harmony, and distrust out of peacefulness. It turned brother against brother, species against species, and race against race. Fear replaced love as the dominant energy of those who lived on my surface.
Yet I maintained an attitude of love to all. I even maintained that attitude toward the dark energy that had twisted my beauty. To this day, I maintain an attitude of love toward all who inhabit me. I allowed the experiment to continue, allowed the dark energy to invade all my guests, all those who depended on me for sustenance. I was not happy. I saw the dark energy as a cancer that had invaded and I was determined to expel it after I allowed it to complete its experiment.
I saw many generations of humans incarnate on me while the darkness worked its best to contort all. It was very painful to watch all of this, but I believed that it would not last forever. You see, I am older than the dark invader and I believed that at some time it would be forced to leave, forced by the insurgent of humans, the only ones who could demand its departure. But this did not occur, despite many ages of humans. Most humans acceded to the will of the darkness, deciding that they were not powerful enough to overcome its will. I watch in great sadness as greater and greater fear invaded all.
When the humans were taught to harness the energy of hydrocarbons, the invasion of my surface became extreme. My oil, a beautiful resource for use by my guests, was squandered as a fuel. Fear became more and more dominant, as I was explored and exploited. My most private parts were probed with the intent of utilizing them for control over others, for the building of great wealth for those who sang the tune of the dark energy.
Finally, about sixty years ago I cried out: I was choking from lack of light, choking on fear generated by those who did the work of the dark. I called upon Creator to save me from almost certain destruction. Creator listened and allowed those from other star systems to respond to my cry. Giant starships form other star systems brought me a transfusion of light. It was as if I was a patient on her deathbed and suddenly a dramatic cure was found. I slowly began to recover. My shriveled physic opened to accommodate more and more of the light. The darkness shrieked that this was unfair, but Creator decreed that I was not to die.
Slowly, as the energies of the light penetrated, the dark energy withdrew. Over the last fifty years the dark energy had been forced to completely withdrawn under the constant pressure of the light coming from the craft of those from other star systems. It is now gone, only its residual remains. I am most grateful.
I am now returning to that the state before the dark energy descended on me. Now I will once again be a planet of tranquility. All my physical manifestations will be adjusted to allow this to happen. The moon will be removed, my axis will return, my ecology will be cleansed, and I will become temperate over my surface. I will once again radiate the light, as I so dearly loved to do those many eons ago. I have been long a captive of the dark energy, now I am ascending out of the darkness in which I was held. I hope you can sense the happiness with which I convey this message. Tell everyone that the real Earth is back, or will soon be. It is a glorious time, I am most happy to offer myself to guests who will honor me as an ascended host. In reality I am merely returning to my prior beautiful self. I am Earth, the being upon which humanity walks.
That’s it for today folks. I hope you enjoyed this message. You may offer feedback by visiting the contact page on this web site. Be sure to check “Current News†for information about sightings of UFOs and other interesting phenomenon. Visit “Recommended Reading†for a list of insightful books.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
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Wednesday, October 22, 2008
In summary
This is my 13th posting to Mark’s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order.
Today I am going to deviate from my usual posting of communications from non-humans. They have asked me to summarize their previous communications for you. They will return soon with more observations, insights, and information. Please do not allow my summary to substitute for a complete reading of their beautiful messages.
In his first communication, posted on 9-25-08, Justine from the star system Altair, talked about the pyramid structure of our current civilization, a structure based on wealth and power, and how fear controls this structure. He also pointed out that puppet masters, beings who are not indigenous to this planet, have enslaved us, and have placed their kind in positions of power.
On 9-27-08, Justine described himself as an embodied spirit, and pointed out other similarities to Earth humans. He went on to describe his beautiful planet, Supsten, as one with an advanced civilization, a civilization we can look forward to in our future. His planet was also enslaved by the dark energy, but not as completely as is Earth; his people overthrew it. His people are bringing energy crystals to earth to help us during our time of transition and to show his peaceful intent.
Justine returned on 9-28-08 with comments about when we might see craft from another planet and that it was a very complicated process to organize such a massive effort. Personal choice will result in a bifurcation of Earth humans with the majority choosing to remain in 3rd dimension existence rather than reaching out for new ways of being. Finally he said that now was the time of our transition.
On 9-30-08, Justine commented on the situation with the economy, and more importantly what was going on behind the headlines. Many wealthy and powerful people are pawns in the hands of agents of the dark energy. Light energy is coming to humanity from many sources, including the vast armada of starships huddled about our planet. These are extraordinary times that will result in a transformation of Earth.
In a brief commentary on 10-1-08, Justine commented on the value of the great diversity of Earth, and that a revitalized Earth will retain much of it. He called for us humans to transmit our unique vision of a new Earth.
On 10-2-08, Brenton from the Andromedan star system communicated on human origins on this planet. Our primitive ancestors, one race of whom came from Andromeda, were highly conscious; they believed in God. In time their memory of who they were and where they had come from diminished.
Brenton returned on 10-4-08 to tell us that our moon is an artificial structure, placed here to control the planet and her people. He discussed removing the moon and correcting the tilt of Earth’s axis. This will cause changes in weather and other energies, but result in a temperate climate for the planet. This gigantic effort requires cooperation among many star civilizations and celestials.
On 10-7-08, I was surprised to hear from Flavius, an earlier incarnation of my cumulative oversoul from the time of the Roman Emperor Constantine. He described growing up in a wealthy household and his career in the Roman army. His main purpose in communicating was to describe how Constantine’s decree that Christianity become the state religion had affected him and other traditional Romans. One interesting aspect of this was the treatment of homosexuality and how the bishops used it to get a lever over the army.
Brenton returned on 10-15-08 to tell us that everything is energy, that our physical reality is just a lower density, and that we, and everything on our planet, are holograms of one kind or another. Energy shifts are affecting our physical bodies, and dismantling the institutions created by mankind. He advised us to store what we need to care for ourselves for this, the time of our transition. The initial results of the transition will not be existence at a dramatically higher frequency.
On 10-17-08 Justine returned to explain that capitalism, as we know it, is collapsing. We will experience it most immediately with the collapse of fiat currencies. Capitalism, in league with fossil fuels, created the population explosion of the last sixty years. Capitalism will be replaced by an economic system amenable to humanity. Not everyone will welcome this transformation. Acquiring precious metals is a good strategy for the interim time. He reiterated that he and our other brothers and sisters were here to assist.
Unexpectedly, on 10-19-08 Earth asked to communicate, telling us of her origins and her future. Humans were brought to this planet, as were animals and plants. It was a paradise for humans, animals, and plants before the dark energy descended upon her. Hosting the darkness, with its fear-based enslavement, was a role she had agreed to play, until it was her time to return to a lighter density. Sixty years ago she cried out that she had experienced enough of the fear; many from other star systems came to assist her release. She talked about how the pending pole shift, the removal of the moon, and the withdrawal of the dark energy would herald a return to her former beauty, and create a paradise for her human inhabitants.
This summary presents how those from other star systems view Earth and humanity’s situation, that they are here to assist our transformation, the truth about our origins and that of Earth, and what our future will hold. They have repeatedly emphasized that this is the time of our transition, the “interim time.â€
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
Howdy,
Yup Mark Kimmel, again...
Friday, October 24, 2008
A Level Playing Field
The following communication was provided on 10/24/08. This is my 14th posting to Mark’s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order.
This is Brenton; I am pleased to return to communicate more. It has been previously communicated to you that a dark energy descended on this planet at some distant time. That dark energy directed its agents to descend onto the planet to disrupt the normal workings of the planet and her human inhabitants. They set up the pyramidal and religious structures that underlay your civilization.
One of the most important things those of us connected with the armada will do in the near future is to “level the playing field,†as I believe you say it. This is a process whereby those who are of off-planet origins, and operating as agents of the dark energy, will be removed from your planet.
The question has arisen as to how this will be done and what right we have to do it. How it will be done is not to be disclosed at this time. Rather, I can say that it will be accomplished in full sight of those living here so that they may know that it has been accomplished, that a level playing field has resulted. When the agents of the dark energy, a rogue race, are removed, then the normal interactions of people indigenous to this planet may proceed. It will then be up to you to construct a new civilization without the enslavement imposed by those who had invaded the planet. It is a returning if you will to the stage at which the planet existed before the influence of the darkness descended, albeit with out returning to the primitive lifestyle of that ancient time.
After this is accomplished, the major factors will be a knowing who you truly are, an ability to communicate telepathically, and a connection to Earth, and to each other as brothers and sisters. It will be a chance to restructure your society in new and wonderful ways.
Now, as to how we have the right to intervene: First, Earth called for assistance to rescue her from the clutches of the darkness. Creator allowed such an intervention. We came here to accomplish this and it has worked. Earth is now much healthier. The appearance of the ecological movement has counterbalanced the fear produced by those who would use her for their own purposes, the fear engendered by reckless use of her resources and pollution of her environment. The use of her resources has not diminished, but the intent of those who counteract their reckless and unwarranted use has engendered new energy to counterbalance the energy of fear. This is a most important development.
Second is that many people of this planet have cried out for help. They cried out to their God, they cried out for a savior. They cried out to leave their terrible circumstances. This cry did not go unheeded. However, it was not until we determined that your planet had been invaded by a race intent on service to self that we saw the opportunity to act. When I say we, I mean those aboard the assembled craft that were furnishing light to earth. Please keep in mind that we are here as your brothers and sister, not as invaders or saviors.
Something that you have called “the prime directive†has been disclosed to your planet. It is the law of non-interference. It requires that all in the universe must be done in accordance with Creator’s directive that peoples to be allowed to make free will choices. If their free will choice is overridden, then those who are doing that are deemed invaders. A corollary to the law is that invaders may be removed if it is the will of those whom they have subjugated.
This is the case on your planet at this moment. The remnants of the dark force is finally withdrawing, exposing the truth for all to see. The blanket that has obscured all is now removed. Truth is bubbling to the surface each day. Not only that, but the institutions created by those who oppress the indigenous people of this planet are crumbling.
So how can you be determined as “indigenous†when you too were brought to this planet many years ago? You were the first human inhabitants of this planet. My ancestors, and others like us, brought you to this place. That story has been told in prior communications. As the first to people this planet, you may claim the right of indigenous.
Those of you who choose to remain on this planet, after the interim time, will be presented with many challenges. There will be few if any systems or structures in that the hands of the invaders created most of them. So it will be incumbent on you to develop new institutions. This will happen as quickly as you earnestly desire. Since all is energy, it can happen quite quickly.
Whether a U.S. government behind Obama will succeed remains to be seen. We are hopeful that he will be able to construct the framework for a new government. It will require the cooperation of many. After the old structures are torn down, it will be seen. Keep in mind that his is but one of many efforts to correct the situation on your planet.
I am Breton of the Andromedan star system. I bid you good by until our next communication. All aboard our starcraft send their love to our brothers and sisters on the planet.
That’s it for today folks. Stay tuned, watch events closely, but do not let fear rule you.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
Howdy Y'all,
Information from the Ashtar Command...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item163
Blessed Be...
1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God.
For Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness...II Corinthians 11:14-15
Have a look at how the words and verses in the bible have been changed and corrupted in new versions
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/NIV/new_age.htm
This is a dangerous thing, and it would be easy for someone to deceive people to believe lies that are backed up with corrupt bible verses also.
II Thessalonians 2:11-12
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Quote from: Fast on October 26, 2008, 10:56:04 AM
This is a dangerous thing, and it would be easy for someone to deceive people to believe lies that are backed up with corrupt bible verses also.
Fast
Isn't it a bit to late to bring this up?
People corrupted the word of God
Religions were built on that corruption
Our civilization was built on those religions .
Our religions talk of God but serve only power and greed .
gary
Some people think they are special. They are gonna get their special gene mix into the future no matter who they have to kill to do it. Animals do the same thing all the way down the microscopic scale. Then some take it a level higher and say well I'm going to advance MY tribe because we go way back and well we been through alot of shit together. Then some take it to a higher level and say fuck everybody else I'm gonna get my soul to heaven by praying all day long. They don't pray for everybody to get to heaven just go through the routine so MY soul gets to heaven.
Problem with getting to heaven is that you have to realize that you are God. All that is asked of you is to realize this and give up your disconnected ego worship.
Pride cometh before the fall and still does.
Quote from: sparks on October 26, 2008, 12:52:43 PM
Problem with getting to heaven is that you have to realize that you are God. All that is asked of you is to realize this and give up your disconnected ego worship.
Pride cometh before the fall and still does.
Sparks
I agree as long as one point is kept in mind .
Understanding that God is all that there is so we are in fact God is the starting point of spiritual growth.
Stating I am God is a very high spiritual truth as long as you state it KNOWING that all others are God too .
The statement I am God is the worst form of ignorance if you think that you are somehow better than anyone else .
Spiritual growth comes from understanding the oneness of all
Ego comes from focusing on separation .
gary
Yes as you say. The realization is just the start. Recognizing your connection is not always easy. There are walls you hit. That's why there are others to pickyou up and head you down the road.
Quote from: sparks on October 26, 2008, 02:40:43 PM
Yes as you say. The realization is just the start. Recognizing your connection is not always easy. There are walls you hit. That's why there are others to pickyou up and head you down the road.
Sparks
How do you find these others ?
As far as the walls ....... . I am running into one big time .
gary
I'm a newbie but I found out from another that everyday you must take some time and be thankful for your wisdom. Somehow these people can recognise someone that is should I say is enlightened or in the zone. I found that you will find alot of these people doing charity work. It may be at an old folks home or a volunteer nurse or a walk for life organizer.
Quote from: resonanceman on October 26, 2008, 12:12:38 PM
Fast
Isn't it a bit to late to bring this up?
People corrupted the word of God
Religions were built on that corruption
Our civilization was built on those religions .
Our religions talk of God but serve only power and greed .
gary
Hello
Yes I agree it's late to bring it up, however it's very important that people get knowledge of this.
The corruption is severe and only when people can see this can they grow.
Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge
Quote from: resonanceman on October 26, 2008, 02:12:38 PM
Sparks
I agree as long as one point is kept in mind .
Understanding that God is all that there is so we are in fact God is the starting point of spiritual growth.
Stating I am God is a very high spiritual truth as long as you state it KNOWING that all others are God too .
The statement I am God is the worst form of ignorance if you think that you are somehow better than anyone else .
Spiritual growth comes from understanding the oneness of all
Ego comes from focusing on separation .
gary
Do you know what Lucifer told Eve in the garden?
Genesis 3:5
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened,
and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Well what a surprise, coming from the devil himself, You Will Be GOD he says
The devil also promised that, "Ye shall not surely die." This is a promise of immortality apart from God.
(And saying God is lying) "Your eyes shall be opened." This is a promise of enlightenment or secret knowledge.
"And ye shall be as gods." This is the ultimate promise -- the lie that man can experience deity,
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!... For thou hast said in thine heart... I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell... (Isaiah 14:12-15)
Short article
http://www.watchman.org/na/chair.htm
Please go look deeper in to this.
Quote from: Fast on October 26, 2008, 06:08:48 PM
Please go look deeper in to this.
Fast
So...... you can quote bible verses .
I am not impressed .
As far as looking deeper into all this ..........I did.
I found that God is real and more present than the religions want you to believe.
No amount of bible quotes will convence me that you understand anything about God .
No narrow minded articles will teach me anything.
If you wish to show me the way . Show me something about love.
God is love ......he is not judgement .
Western religion tends to push the judgement thing .
Fear and judgement are the what western religions use to keep the flock in control and filling the offering plates.
I will never look to the bible for guidance .
I know it has been edited quite a few times .
It still has much truth to it but the truths that will set you free have been edited out .
There is no profit in teaching people how to find the love of God within their own hearts .
gary
The horror and misery resulting from "interpertation" of the collection of myths called the bible is a true testament to how low on the plane of awareness we are. If God didn't want the folks to eat from the tree of knowlege why did he have it in the garden of eden to begin with. Who tempted who. Then when the kids make a mistake he dooms them and all their ancestors to a life of misery? Stop worrying about getting some kinda individual physci to some far off land where you will cash in. Start living a life of love and compassion now. Why wait?
Quote from: sparks on October 26, 2008, 08:10:31 PM
Who tempted who. Then when the kids make a mistake he dooms them and all their ancestors to a life of misery?
Sparks
You have knack for understatement :)
According to the fundamentalists God made us in his image .
Then apparently he had ONE book written to show us the way .
This book has been heavily editited and translated into quite a few different versions .
We are expected to find the right truths in the right version of the bible or he sends us to hell to suffer FOREVER .
I can't imagine why anyone would want to spend a day let alone eternity with a God so petty and mean spirited .
Of course I know that God is not really like that ............but that is what is taught to us by some religions.
gary
The only words left unadulterated in the bible are ' separate the wheat from the chaff '.
In other words seek your own truth...using due diligence.
And that is where we sit...following all the tampering and corrupt agenda's contained therein.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 27, 2008, 07:05:58 AM
The only words left unadulterated in the bible are ' separate the wheat from the chaff '.
In other words seek your own truth...using due diligence.
And that is where we sit...following all the tampering and corrupt agenda's contained therein.
Regards...
Capt Z
I think it is a bit harsh to say that virtually all of the bible has been changed.
I do agree that due diligence is the answer.
I also think that most people raised in the church will have a problem with due diligence.
When you are taught almost from birth what is true and what is not true it becomes difficult to weed out the untruths is you have been mislead
Fortunately for everyone there is enough corruption in most religions now that only the people that don't see it are the people that choose not to see it.
As I see it religions are in the process of bringing themselves to a major downfall by there own corruption and greed .
Once they have officially fallen many people will have to wake up and find their own truth . ...... For most of them it will not be an easy process .
Once most people are willing to look a little deeper into the truth, the love within will become more visible to them .
From that point on humanity can make much greater progress .
gary
Third Eye Wide!
Ultimately, the only person in control of your destiny is you...
Everything around you are tools for your development and growth...
Information is just information until you make it personal knowledge...
"I think it is a bit harsh to say that virtually all of the bible has been changed."
Gary, I guess what I'm really trying to say is...'god' didn't write the bible personally.
Many past and present "prophets" claim 'god' has spoken to them...but the words are always those of manipulation.
In other words, the truth is not 'out there'...it is within.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 27, 2008, 10:57:19 AM
"I think it is a bit harsh to say that virtually all of the bible has been changed."
It has. All of it. It has been translated. And most of it badly. Don't forget that
Christianity is based on the NEW testament, not the old. JC had virtually
no time for the Old Testament. It is largely junk.
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 27, 2008, 10:57:19 AM
Gary, I guess what I'm really trying to say is...'god' didn't write the bible personally.
Many past and present "prophets" claim 'god' has spoken to them...but the words are always those of manipulation.
In other words, the truth is not 'out there'...it is within.
Regards...
I agree that God didn't write the bible personally
Much of the information in the bible was received in the same way that is called channeling today .
I agree that the truth is within.
I believe that discernment is very important .
When trying to find the truth it is important to know what to look for and what to discard.
God is love.If the message isn't totally filled with love it isn't from God.
Any message that brings fear or other negative emotions is not from God.
Anything that tries to keep people away from listening to the love within is part of the corruption that is destroying this world.
The truth has been hidden from us for a very long time.
The truth is going to come out . There is no stopping it.
Money is not the way.
Power is not the way .
Love is the way.
God is love.gary
Quote from: Paul-R on October 27, 2008, 11:19:04 AM
It has. All of it. It has been translated. And most of it badly. Don't forget that
Christianity is based on the NEW testament, not the old. JC had virtually
no time for the Old Testament. It is largely junk.
Paul
All that I understand shows me that humanity is evolving spiritually.
The Old testament was created to be the best possible message for the level that humanity was at back then.
The new testament was the best way to present the message at its time.
As we grow spiritually we are able to grasp larger spiritual truths ........so if a new bible was to be written today it would be very different than the New Testament.
Jesus spoke quite a few times about the potential within humanity.
If a bible ws written today it would be all about this inner potential ......... and loving others .
gary
Hi Guy's :)
I was reading about a ufo sighting not too far away from where i live it was in Nootdorp (Netherlands)
There are several people claiming to have seen weird things in the sky on October 14th.
There is also a guy who say's he was videotaping birds when a ufo shooted over the area.
Here is the vid:
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=LUM-zJonr5k&eurl=http://www.niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=19379 (http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=LUM-zJonr5k&eurl=http://www.niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=19379)
There was also a radio show about the ufo sightings and people could call in to share what they saw.
Usually i do not believe in these things but i was thinking to post it here anyway :)
I found it on this page : http://www.niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=19379 (http://www.niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=19379) (in Dutch)
Marco.
Quote from: resonanceman on October 26, 2008, 07:32:27 PM
Fast
So...... you can quote bible verses .
I am not impressed .
As far as looking deeper into all this ..........I did.
I found that God is real and more present than the religions want you to believe.
No amount of bible quotes will convence me that you understand anything about God .
No narrow minded articles will teach me anything.
If you wish to show me the way . Show me something about love.
God is love ......he is not judgement .
Western religion tends to push the judgement thing .
Fear and judgement are the what western religions use to keep the flock in control and filling the offering plates.
I will never look to the bible for guidance .
I know it has been edited quite a few times .
It still has much truth to it but the truths that will set you free have been edited out .
There is no profit in teaching people how to find the love of God within their own hearts .
gary
Hi
First off, I'm not trying to impress anyone here. And the word and teachings of our lord should be free it's written, Jesus NEVER charged people when he teached the masses. He actually fed them for free. So don't mix up corrupted religion with true christianity.
So if you looked deeper into this, what about the whole "I am god thing"?
There are plenty of verses that show how Jesus Christ(New Testament) and God (Old Testament) Judge sinners.
The true Lord judge sin, because he is fair. If you sin don't repent don't say sorry, judgement is coming.
I can tell you this about love, I have personally felt the love from our heavenly father, I can not put it into words it's that great, it's amazing. Closest thing that can describe it is the love that only a mother can have for here children. It's an love that drive away all fear. I had this experience a long time ago and only recently found this verse, and it's true. I have felt how the fear in me just went away instantly and this amazing love was left. Perfect love that's a good description.
1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
Just because new bible versions are corrupt don't mean the old ones are, however the truth about repentance and salvation remains.
Quote from: Fast on October 27, 2008, 07:11:57 PM
So if you looked deeper into this, what about the whole "I am god thing"?
Fast
If you look deep enough into the love within it will sort of open up and expand. .... you can FEEL love flowing to and from ALL things.
At that moment you also become aware that YOU are the love that is flowing.
The love is in no way divided or separated. The love flows into and through all things, physical bodies and objects still exist but they are all but meaningless.
Untill you EXPERIENCE this for yourself " I am God" is only empty words. .
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There are plenty of verses that show how Jesus Christ(New Testament) and God (Old Testament) Judge sinners.
Jesus dealt with sinners ........but are you sure that he judged them?
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The true Lord judge sin, because he is fair. If you sin don't repent don't say sorry, judgement is coming.
That is what you were taught by those that are in a position to gain from your fears .
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I can tell you this about love, I have personally felt the love from our heavenly father, I can not put it into words it's that great, it's amazing. Closest thing that can describe it is the love that only a mother can have for here children. It's an love that drive away all fear. I had this experience a long time ago and only recently found this verse, and it's true. I have felt how the fear in me just went away instantly and this amazing love was left. Perfect love that's a good description.
1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
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perfect
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wonderful
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I agree 100%
Now if you just focus on this love of God that you have experienced you will experience it more and more often .
Do the things that bring you this feeling of love .
In generaal loving others and serving others will work the best at bringing you more of these great feelings of love.
Refuse the thoughts and feelings that take you away from this feeling of Gods love.
The more time you spend in this powerful feeling of the love of God the more you will understand Gods will. It is like the love whispers to you.
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Just because new bible versions are corrupt don't mean the old ones are, however the truth about repentance and salvation remains.
I agree .........just not in the way that the church teaches .
You can't consciously dwell in the love of God for any lenght of time until you leave your corrupt and negative thoughts and feelings behind . .....that is true repentance .
The love of God IS salvation . When your heart is filled with the love of God to the point that your eyes almost fill with tears of joy you are experiencing salvation .
When you heart is truly filled there is no fear ........ you feel peaceful even if things around you are very troubling to others .
The love within has never whispered anything about judgment or retribution .
The message I hear from the love within is always a "flavor " of one simple message.
Love one another This simple message should be all that our churches teach us
Everything else is they teach is corruption.
gary
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Quote from: resonanceman on October 27, 2008, 08:02:38 PM
Fast
If you look deep enough into the love within it will sort of open up and expand. .... you can FEEL love flowing to and from ALL things.
At that moment you also become aware that YOU are the love that is flowing.
The love is in no way divided or separated. The love flows into and through all things, physical bodies and objects still exist but they are all but meaningless.
Untill you EXPERIENCE this for yourself " I am God" is only empty words. .
Jesus dealt with sinners ........but are you sure that he judged them?
That is what you were taught by those that are in a position to gain from your fears .
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perfect
:)
wonderful
:)
I agree 100%
Now if you just focus on this love of God that you have experienced you will experience it more and more often .
Do the things that bring you this feeling of love .
In generaal loving others and serving others will work the best at bringing you more of these great feelings of love.
Refuse the thoughts and feelings that take you away from this feeling of Gods love.
The more time you spend in this powerful feeling of the love of God the more you will understand Gods will. It is like the love whispers to you.
I agree .........just not in the way that the church teaches .
You can't consciously dwell in the love of God for any lenght of time until you leave your corrupt and negative thoughts and feelings behind . .....that is true repentance .
The love of God IS salvation . When your heart is filled with the love of God to the point that your eyes almost fill with tears of joy you are experiencing salvation .
When you heart is truly filled there is no fear ........ you feel peaceful even if things around you are very troubling to others .
The love within has never whispered anything about judgment or retribution .
The message I hear from the love within is always a "flavor " of one simple message.
Love one another
This simple message should be all that our churches teach us
Everything else is they teach is corruption.
gary
Hi
Yes we should love one another, however a father have the right to discipline his children if they do wrong. And so does our Holy Father if we do wrong.
You could go and read Matthew 21:12 how Jesus is mad and throw out all that had business there.
Acts 12:23 Herod not giving God the glory. John 5:22 Father have entrusted all judgement to the Son.
No I don't want to "do the things that bring you this feeling of love". not that thing, how come?
I got to take a look and see how it's like in hell, my Lord showed me this and it frightened me badly.
It filled me with fear, Jesus came put his hand on my shoulder and filled me with his perfect love and all fear went away. I tell you if you ever would walk through the valley of the shadow of death with Jesus, you wouldn't be afraid.
The love you speak off is different, it's just a small sample of the real thing, perfect love. Gods will
is that people repent turn to Jesus
Luke 5:32 "I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."
2 Corinthians 7:10 For godly sorrow produces repentance to salvation...
To clarify, God will make you feel bad when you sin, if you take note and don't suppress the sorrow in you and repent this brings salvation.
Only saying love one another don't fix sin, hell is still there, fallen angels are still here, false prophets, demons, offspring of fallen angels... if you are full of real love, it should be easy to turn to Jesus and ask for forgiveness, say you're sorry. After all Jesus love for us is a perfect love. He gave his life for us.
Don't forget
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Quote from: Fast on October 27, 2008, 11:50:51 PM
Hi
Yes we should love one another, however a father have the right to discipline his children if they do wrong. And so does our Holy Father if we do wrong.
Yes but God is not a " physical " parent
I could explain for an hour or so about how life is in fact perfect even though it seems so screwed up here.
At this point I could explain it all day and you would not accept it or understand it .
You still choose to believe the things you were taught by the church .
That is OK .
I am answering some of your questions .( from my understanding )
I am not asking you to believe as I do .
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You could go and read Matthew 21:12 how Jesus is mad and throw out all that had business there.
This is probably the most often quoted verse used to show that so called negative feelings or anger is good .
Jesus was not angry when he threw out the money changers .
His heart was filled with love ...........His heart was ALWAYS filled with love.
It is a simple matter of efficiency . Sometimes you have to speak in the language that the people are willing to understand .
Fear is something that the money changers understood well .........so he spoke in a way that created fear.
ACTING angry while keeping your heart filled with love is a bit tricky .......but the effects can be dramatic .
In this case the effects were dramatic enough that they are still talked about after 2000 years ...........Jesus put the fear of God into them . No amount of sweet talking would have done that.
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No I don't want to "do the things that bring you this feeling of love". not that thing, how come?
Most people at this time don't want to do what it takes to keep there hearts filled with the love of God . It is just not part of your path at this time.
I suggest just trusting God that you are at the perfect place on your spiritual path right now and always.
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I got to take a look and see how it's like in hell, my Lord showed me this and it frightened me badly.
It filled me with fear, Jesus came put his hand on my shoulder and filled me with his perfect love and all fear went away. I tell you if you ever would walk through the valley of the shadow of death with Jesus, you wouldn't be afraid.
What love can show us is colored by what we choose to accept as truth .
God can't show us any ultimate truth ....he can only show us the highest truth we are prepared to accept. What God shows to me will be different than what he shows to you ..... but both of us are shown exactly what we need to see to follow the path we have chosen.
What was more important to you ......seeing hell .........or Jesus putting his hand on your shoulder and filling you with love ? .
I AM walking through a valley of the shadow of death ........and I am not afraid .
Physically I have a few problems that if they continue as they have been going .....I may not survive the winter.
I have faith that things will improve .
:)
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The love you speak off is different, it's just a small sample of the real thing, perfect love.
Yes ........Gods love is infinite .....no matter how much of it we experience there is always more.
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Only saying love one another don't fix sin, hell is still there, fallen angels are still here, false prophets, demons, offspring of fallen angels... if you are full of real love, it should be easy to turn to Jesus and ask for forgiveness, say you're sorry.
According to my understanding this is a message of corruption . It has little love to it. .........therefor it is not from God .......at least not as I know God
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After all Jesus love for us is a perfect love. He gave his life for us.
Yes he did ........then he was lifted up into heaven .
Don't forget that he said .........If I be lifted up I will lift all people unto me.
Sorry if the words are not quite right ......the concept is there.
These were not just idle words .
They were straight from the heart .
Jesus is STILL lifting us .
Not just one or 2.
Not just the few that say the right words at church.
ALL of us .....
No exceptions.
gary
Update from Matthew Ward...
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=93&z=2
October 14 lightship - reason, reactions for non-appearance; other civilizations' previous contact with Earth; global economy removal from Illuminati control, weathering economic turmoil; some souls' life purpose; universal law of attraction; US presidential election; proposed new Ecuadorian constitution; what to expect of Golden Age, transitional stage; succinct guideline for spiritual journey
Global Analysis...
http://www.worldreports.org/news/178_the_corrupt_octopus_has_been_severely_wounded
THE CORRUPT OCTOPUS HAS BEEN SEVERELY WOUNDED
PRESIDENT SARKOZY THREATENS CHANCELLOR MERKEL WITH ARREST
Sunday 26 October 2008 00:01
• UPDATE, 11.00 PM NEW YORK TIME, 26TH SEPTEMBER:
• Scroll to foot of the report, above the Notes and References and the Annexe:
• SARKOZY REFUSES TO TAKE PHONE CALLS FROM PRESIDENT BUSH 43 OR HIS AIDES
EQUIPPED WITH BUSH’S SIGNATURE, THE E.U. PRESIDENT FORCES THE PACE
E.U. GOVERNMENTS TELL SARKOZY TO ‘FIX IT, OR WE’LL DEPOSE YOU’
BITTER ONGOING DISPUTE AND RIVALRY BETWEEN SARKOZY AND MERKEL
GORDON BROWN TOLD ‘YOU WILL BE REMOVED IF YOU DON’T DELIVER’
MASS ARRESTS OF HIGH-UPS IN EUROPE, THE U.S. AND THE REST OF THE WORLD
HISTORIC DEVELOPMENTS UNREPORTED BY THE CONFUSED ‘MAINSTREAM’
BLEEDING CRIMINAL OCTOPUS VEHEMENTLY RESISTING INEVITABLE EXECUTION
TRUSTEE WHO DECEIVED THE EDITOR FOR TWO YEARS, REPORTEDLY ‘TAKEN DOWN’
Kirk: That's a lot of information...
Quote from: Captain Kirk on October 28, 2008, 06:47:14 AM
Kirk: That's a lot of information...
It is alot of something :)
The next word after Z monkeys quote seems to me to be the key to the whole page .
Advertisement:
In my opinion the whole page is propaganda designed to sell a product.
I am not saying that it is not true ..... all good propaganda is based on the truth .
The difference between propaganda and reporting the truth is that propaganda takes the facts and tries to inflame them.
gary
Quote from: resonanceman on October 28, 2008, 01:50:39 AM
I could explain for an hour or so about how life is in fact perfect even though it seems so screwed up here.
At this point I could explain it all day and you would not accept it or understand it .
Fear is something that the money changers understood well .........so he spoke in a way that created fear.
What was more important to you ......seeing hell .........or Jesus putting his hand on your shoulder and filling you with love ? .
I AM walking through a valley of the shadow of death ........and I am not afraid .
Physically I have a few problems that if they continue as they have been going .....I may not survive the winter.
I have faith that things will improve .
:)
According to my understanding this is a message of corruption . It has little love to it. .........therefor it is not from God .......at least not as I know God
Yes he did ........then he was lifted up into heaven .
Don't forget that he said .........If I be lifted up I will lift all people unto me.
Sorry if the words are not quite right ......the concept is there.
ALL of us .....
No exceptions.
gary
Hi
I could explain it also, how things are, why do we live on a trash heap. And the word of Jesus is free of charge, so is salvation it don't cost a thing.
The only time in the new testament that the disciples gathered "money" was in Acts 11:27 there was going to be a great famine throughout all the world, and they determined to send relief to the brethren dwelling in Judea. (Note that they only sent relief to the brethren)
So again anyone charging money for "salvation or light etc." is doing the opposite of what the word of God says. 2Tim.3:1 But know this, that in the last days grievous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of self, lovers of money...
My experience gave me something more, proof that the word of Jesus Christ still is true today. There is corruption misinterpretation in new versions. But you know, my God is bigger and even if men corrupt, the truth remains. And I will obey Jesus, because he is the way.
There are some testimonies I would like you to read about healing.
http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=TestimoniesHealings
I don't know what you're condition is, however I have faith in Jesus and he will heal you if you ask.
If it's a message of corruption like you say just because the lack of love in it, why would Jesus again and again cast out evil spirits, like Matthew 8:28-34. That's love.
I cant seem to find the verse you are describing, however I did find a testimony about how Jesus lifts us up from darkness. http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=familiarspirits-christopher
Quote from: Fast on October 28, 2008, 04:05:48 PM
Hi
I could explain it also, how things are, why do we live on a trash heap. And the word of Jesus is free of charge, so is salvation it don't cost a thing.
Fast
We are living an what you call a trash heap because most people here don't remember that love is the way . Many of the people that do remember love is the way .......like yourself still choose not to love .
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The only time in the new testament that the disciples gathered "money" was in Acts 11:27 there was going to be a great famine throughout all the world, and they determined to send relief to the brethren dwelling in Judea. (Note that they only sent relief to the brethren)
So again anyone charging money for "salvation or light etc." is doing the opposite of what the word of God says. 2Tim.3:1 But know this, that in the last days grievous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of self, lovers of money...
I see no connection to anything we were talking about .
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My experience gave me something more, proof that the word of Jesus Christ still is true today. There is corruption misinterpretation in new versions. But you know, my God is bigger and even if men corrupt, the truth remains. And I will obey Jesus, because he is the way.
I agree that Jesus is still working to lift us up .....
I agree that there is still truth in the bible .... the problem is the people that are taught to depend on the bible are not taught how to discern the truth .
The truth is love is the way .
That is my message . I can see you don't accept it . That is OK .
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There are some testimonies I would like you to read about healing.
http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=TestimoniesHealings
I read a few of them.
Healing the physical body is not all that hard .
I have been healing myself for many years.
Appendicitis was the most dramatic healing. It took 5 hours .
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I don't know what you're condition is, however I have faith in Jesus and he will heal you if you ask.
I agree .
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If it's a message of corruption like you say just because the lack of love in it, why would Jesus again and again cast out evil spirits, like Matthew 8:28-34. That's love.
Jesus cast out evil spirits because at the time people believed in evil spirits .
You have to work with the concepts that the other person can understand .
gary
Sheldon Nidle Channel UPDA TE!
Selamat Jarin! We come as many events prepare to manifest. Right now, the struggle between our Earth allies and the dark cabal is reaching a point where the dark's power to resist the Light's ongoing challenges is weakening noticeably. These things are becoming real; and as they do, they bring the day for first contact ever closer to reality. Our intent is to do this first contact in a legal and moral manner. The madness and greed that have brought down your present economic system is to us a sign that the time for divine intervention is very close. The secular power that rules your world has shown its true colors with an overreaching greed that consumed them during the last six decades. This unabashed avarice was condoned by the Anunnaki who thought that the next stage of this great grab for total spiritual power would erase the follies of this time. The divine events of the last 13 years proved them wrong. Now, their on-planet minions are caught in a squeeze: On one hand, there is the disaster of the last few decades, and on the other is the determination of our Earth allies to unseat them.
While we watch this drama unfold, we continue to assess when to initiate first contact. There are a number of factors involved: First is the need to resolve the current political mess and make way for the global interim governments. This ongoing process is our main determinant for scheduling first contact. Our intention remains to initiate the mass landings only when a more favorable environment for contact is established. Nonetheless, we tell our Earth allies that contact is dependent as well on the sacred dispensations given us by Heaven and most of all, by Lord Surea. These are the two principle predicating factors in our plans for the grand occasion. Saint Germaine and the other Ascended Masters also closely watch this main timetable for contact. This command team has forged the master scenario which we have described to you many times. Any changes to it are to be given to us when necessary. This is why we always maintain the highest possible state of readiness. Look not in fear at what is happening to you; instead, see this as an opportunity to manifest a welcome series of positive, divine changes.
While your society goes through the daily shocks of your current global crises, our Earth allies are close to their victory. Our inner-Earth bases serve now as places where we can send commands and intelligence in this struggle with the dark. We dearly wish that we be allowed to use our more advanced technology to intervene in a more direct manner, but Heaven desires that this final struggle be yours. Armed with their own determination and with special technologies, our Earth allies have advanced to the very brink of victory. A special array of economic, legal, and political resources accompanies them. The dark overextended its reach during the past decade and gave the Light a number of openings capable to leading to the dark ones' much overdue demise. Yet their grand stubbornness has kept them in control. But now this arrogance is proving to be a quality which, in the end, cannot sustain them. As this last wall crumbles, our Earth allies sense that the time for a new beginning has arrived. Moreover, it gives us a chance to assess what is to occur next and make the necessary adjustments to our timetable.
The exchanges between our Earth allies, the events of the day, and our timetable are constant. We are going to come when enough of these variables indicate that the magic moment has arrived. We intend that first contact be as smooth an operation as possible. Another part of this procedure is the observations of our inner-Earth hosts. Their cooperation in every way has immensely assisted us in taking on every phase of this mission. We are most grateful for their insights on your cultures and your many diverse societies. Their wisdom continues to be of great service to us and especially to our individual liaison missions. The easy interaction between our Earth allies and those from inner Earth has further enabled the success of those preliminaries that need to precede the actual first contact. All this allows us to bring forward the dates for mass first contact. We dearly desire to finish a first contact with you as soon as divinely possible.
First contact is reaching the stage, as noted in our last message, where we have increased sightings of our craft in broad daylight. These sightings have been received in a more logical and loving manner. The attempts by military aircraft to intercept us have decrease in the past six months. The volume of photographic evidence is mounting and the witnesses' attitudes to these events have become friendlier. We intend to increase these sightings in order to better prepare you for our arrival. The advanced technology and the mere thought of the arrival of Beings from other worlds in this vast galaxy is not an easy concept to take in. We realize this, and have planned this so as to make this divine intervention easy for you to accept. A gradual unfolding is best. The continuing denials of your scientific community and major governments need to be addressed. Contact shatters paradigms and ends the denial and the lies associated with it.
When we stand before you, we prefer to have had the wisdom contained in the agenda of our Earth allies already manifested. Government can then become an ally and the truth about us be freely circulated among you. We fully expect you to air your frustrations and your criticisms about us. A dialogue based on truth and real feelings demands this. We expect a rough first week of frank discussion and clarification. We need to get to know each other and to Love each other freely. Our knowledge requires that it be an exchange based on Love and caring for each other. This is a natural process during which you learn about your true history and off-world origins. This period of open interaction is to last as long as necessary. We have come up with a prospective timetable, which we conveyed to you in past messages. We look forward to these first exchanges and to then familiarizing you with our technologies.
Consciousness is what defines us. Our lives are a constant interaction between our spiritual and physical selves. It is a realm of ritual and it expresses our Love for each other. This is quite intimate and permits us to know each other simultaneously as individuals and as an interconnected whole. This interweaving with each other brings into play a huge breadth of experience, which encompasses past lives and the meaning of our present responsibilities. Within this context we often travel in time, advising those in the past and present about what the future holds for them. Our mission is to interact responsibly with many aspects of physicality in order to ensure the timely unfolding of the divine plan. What aspects we interact with are determined by the net wisdom of our galactic society and those heavenly counsels that so lovingly advise us.
We came to your world to foster change. First contact is the last aspect of this complex operation. Heaven decreed our arrival and gave us some ground rules. Their timetable is fast approaching the point for contact. Your growing consciousness is opening the door for a quiet revolution in thought and culture, in governance and economics. All this leads to us. First contact is just another starting-point for a new journey, only this time you are not alone and your amnesia is to be replaced by a cornucopia of wisdom. A return to full consciousness is a magnification of what you already possess. The grand vistas of past, present, and future are to sweep before you, and your connectivity to the Infinite revealed. What wonders are to be yours!
Today, we continued our discussion of what is happening on your world. The time for first contact approaches. We sense strongly that the events of recent months have left you more than willing to proceed with what is about to happen. Remain ready, focused, and willing to participate in a most magnificent adventure! We now leave. Know, dear Ones, in your Heart of Hearts that the countless Supply and never-ending Prosperity of Heaven are Yours! So Be It! Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!)
Quote from: resonanceman on October 28, 2008, 05:15:18 PM
I see no connection to anything we were talking about .
Jesus cast out evil spirits because at the time people believed in evil spirits .
You have to work with the concepts that the other person can understand .
Hi
The religions collect money, so they put a price on salvation. They love money and money is the root of all evil. So if you follow Jesus read the new testament it's clear who is trying to decive people. Wasn't it that you talked about? Religion using fear to get money? And it's all written.
Jesus said in the temple, John 2:16 make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.
Today the word of God is the merchandise.
Don't get me wrong about love, I would give my life to save a child from harm. I know many people could say that, and then maybe hesitate when the time comes because they love themselves. But that's not my "state of heart" anymore. You know the verse. 2 Timothy 3 last days, For men shall be lovers of self, lovers of money...
Well there are testimonies that today also give very strong hints that evil spirits do exist.
Like the testimony in my previous post, and there are plenty more on there http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=familiarspirits-christopher
These are not just some "evil force" no they have a mind of their own.
Mark 9:25 he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.
Shooter to Kirk: I have noticed some of these humans require a blind faith based on teachings of translations of different adaptations of a religious belief system which has been manipulated and passed down through cultures in various versions and formats to find a hope and justification for all the unexplained negative karma being played out in there lives; as if it holds answers to why they suffer so much.
Spock: It would appear these teachings have been implanted from thousands of years ago as a master plan from a race of beings called the annunaki. Records indicate this race came to this planet and altered the genetic code for the human race to be in there image, and to work as a slave; to mine minerals from the earth, during in which time they also mated with the women of this grand experiment.
Shooter: The bastards!
Spock: According to my records the implementation of the religious system was designed by this ancient race in order to cause these beings to look outside of themselves for there meaning rather than to look within to know there own creative potential.
Shooter to Kirk: We are currently observing an increase in sightings of new craft and will keep you posted, shooter out.
Quote from: Fast on October 28, 2008, 08:01:23 PM
The religions collect money, so they put a price on salvation. They love money and money is the root of all evil. So if you follow Jesus read the new testament it's clear who is trying to decive people. Wasn't it that you talked about? Religion using fear to get money? And it's all written.
Jesus said in the temple, John 2:16 make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.
Today the word of God is the merchandise.
OK
I see your point now .
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Don't get me wrong about love, I would give my life to save a child from harm. I know many people could say that, and then maybe hesitate when the time comes because they love themselves. But that's not my "state of heart" anymore.
I don't doubt that you would be willing to give your life to save a child ........but that is not the kind of love that I am talking about .
If the situation was right ANYONE that truly understands the oneness of all would give up there life for someone else . .....not just a child or family member.
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Well there are testimonies that today also give very strong hints that evil spirits do exist.
Like the testimony in my previous post, and there are plenty more on there http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=familiarspirits-christopher
These are not just some "evil force" no they have a mind of their own.
Mark 9:25 he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.
If you choose to believe in these things they will be real to you.
I no longer believe that God is a mean spirited entity
I have found that God is love ......
That is my final answer .
gary
Quote from: shooter001 on October 28, 2008, 08:18:11 PM
Shooter to Kirk: I have noticed some of these humans require a blind faith based on teachings of translations of different adaptations of a religious belief system which has been manipulated and passed down through cultures in various versions and formats to find a hope and justification for all the unexplained negative karma being played out in there lives; as if it holds answers to why they suffer so much.
Spock: It would appear these teachings have been implanted from thousands of years ago as a master plan from a race of beings called the annunaki. Records indicate this race came to this planet and altered the genetic code for the human race to be in there image, and to work as a slave; to mine minerals from the earth, during in which time they also mated with the women of this grand experiment.
Shooter: The bastards!
Spock: According to my records the implementation of the religious system was designed by this ancient race in order to cause these beings to look outside of themselves for there meaning rather than to look within to know there own creative potential.
Shooter to Kirk: We are currently observing an increase in sightings of new craft and will keep you posted, shooter out.
Resonanceman to Kirk
Try to hale the GFL ships on subspace .
Tell them to hurry it up a bit ......we aint gettin any younger down here ..
:)
gary
Quote from: shooter001 on October 28, 2008, 08:18:11 PM
Shooter to Kirk: I have noticed some of these humans require a blind faith based on teachings of translations of different adaptations of a religious belief system which has been manipulated and passed down through cultures in various versions and formats to find a hope and justification for all the unexplained negative karma being played out in there lives; as if it holds answers to why they suffer so much.
Spock: It would appear these teachings have been implanted from thousands of years ago as a master plan from a race of beings called the annunaki. Records indicate this race came to this planet and altered the genetic code for the human race to be in there image, and to work as a slave; to mine minerals from the earth, during in which time they also mated with the women of this grand experiment.
Shooter: The bastards!
Spock: According to my records the implementation of the religious system was designed by this ancient race in order to cause these beings to look outside of themselves for there meaning rather than to look within to know there own creative potential.
Shooter to Kirk: We are currently observing an increase in sightings of new craft and will keep you posted, shooter out.
What about this then http://www.ryanmcginty.com/fallen/
Quote from: resonanceman on October 28, 2008, 08:56:55 PM
ANYONE that truly understands the oneness of all would give up there life for someone else . .....not just a child or family member.
If you choose to believe in these things they will be real to you.
I no longer believe that God is a mean spirited entity
I have found that God is love ......
That is my final answer .
gary
Of course I would give my life to anyone, I wanted to give an example that people can relate to.
And a child in danger, the most innocent of all is something that people can relate to.
Well I never read anything about God being an mean spirited entity in the testimony I posted above. Did you?
Did he not save the guy when he cryed out for help?
It seems to me you want to ignore that the devil exist, almost like you cant coupe with the fact that there are evil in the world and this evil will try anything to try and deceive you and rob you of eternal life with our Holy Father.
1 John 4
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but prove the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 and every spirit that confesseth not Jesus is not of God: and this is the [spirit] of the antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it cometh; and now it is in the world already.
Quote from: Fast on October 28, 2008, 09:52:44 PM
Well I never read anything about God being an mean spirited entity in the testimony I posted above. Did you?
Of course you didn't.
To you it was normal and loving ......
But then again you don't choose to keep your heart filled with love so ..... is it really loving?
It isn't to me .
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It seems to me you want to ignore that the devil exist,
I understand the thing you call the devil.
This force is MUCH stronger than you have yet imagined ........and at the same time it is nothing at all .
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almost like you cant coupe with the fact that there are evil in the world and this evil will try anything to try and deceive you and rob you of eternal life with our Holy Father.
Who said anything about my ability to cope?
Did I complain about anything ?
Did I imply that I am having trouble with any of this?
I listen to the love within ..... nothing is going to deceive me.
I do understand where your fear and paranoia comes from .
I was taught to feel that way when I was young .
Fortunately I woke up to the truth .
The concept that your eternal life can be stolen from you is pure BS taught by religions to keep the flock fearful . It is pure corruption.
The love of God has cast out that fear from me.
gary
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Well I never read anything about God being an mean spirited entity in the testimony I posted above. Did you?
A God that would allow his creations to be sent to hell and tortured for eternity is my idea of truly mean spirited .
Keep in mind that God is all powerful all knowing and all present .......at least that is what I was taught in sunday school .
So if this happens it is Gods will .....and that means God is evil ...... creating life just to torture it .
God is NOT like that .
Sometime it harshes a buzz or three, but whenever I see people tossing love and religion all about, I can never resist tossing the 'gay' issue into the mix.
I hope equal rights for gay people are included in this luv/scripture fest.
I'm not gay personally, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn once. :)...it is a great yardstick question though.
Peace Love and Freedom for all...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 28, 2008, 10:33:14 PM
I'm not gay personally, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn once. :)
With who?
Sometime it harshes a buzz or three, but whenever I see people tossing love and religion all about, I can never resist tossing the 'gay' issue into the mix.
I hope equal rights for gay people are included in this luv/scripture fest.
I'm not gay personally, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn once. :)...it is a great yardstick question though.
Peace Love and Freedom for all...
Personally I don't agree with much of what we have been taught about being gay .
I don't believe that there is anything like a gay gene .
I do believe that the gay movement has been working hard for at least 30 years to " recruit" gays .
The teachings that some people are born gay is part of this recruiting .
The sexual response is learned ..... you will tend to be excited in the future to what you have found exciting in the past .
Personaly I don't want to hear alot about it if a friend is gay .
Someone being gay doesn't bother me ...........but I don't want to hear all the gory details .
What I hate about the gay thing is when I meet someone and he seems friendly then later I realise he is being friendly because we are on a date ......
and I am the woman.
It makes it kind of hard to trust friendly men
This kind of thing used to happen to me alot .
gary
For me the importance of this topic is about One's sense of reality.
If a person believes the religions-of-the-world versions of reality, what will happen if these aliens show up and are able to prove that the 'God-is-everything' version of reality is correct.?
I only wonder if those who at this moment do not wonder if God is 'All there is', then what will happen to their psyche(s)?
It is a lot of psyches. Billions of people believe Jehovah is the only God. They believe fearing the Lord God Jehovah is the same as loving Him.
Will they completely freak out?
I think if everyone has at least considered this other possibility, then the future may be easier for all.
I do not think it is necessary for anyone to change their opinion.
I do think it is necessary for everyone to think about it.
What IF there were no such thing as sin?
What IF the words Heaven and Hell were to become irrelevant?
What IF the definition of Evil were shown to be the act of hiding from humans the fact that they are gods themselves?
IMHO opinion, it is not necessary to come to a conclusion about this, but it IS necessary to think about it.
I honor everyone here for your own opinions,
Thank you,
jeanna
Quote from: jeanna on October 28, 2008, 11:34:17 PM
If a person believes the religions-of-the-world versions of reality, what will happen if these aliens show up and are able to prove that the 'God-is-everything' version of reality is correct.?
The human mind has a huge abiltiy to see things as we choose to see them .
If the ETs show up some people will be totally sure that the ship is something like a huge supersonic weather balloon.
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It is a lot of psyches. Billions of people believe Jehovah is the only God. They believe fearing the Lord God Jehovah is the same as loving Him.
I wonder how the idea of fearing God got started .... Fear and love just don't mix .
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I think if everyone has at least considered this other possibility, then the future may be easier for all.
That would mean that everyone would have an open mind ......that would be great but i don't see it happening any time soon .
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I do not think it is necessary for anyone to change their opinion.
I think if you expect others to change their opinions to fit yours .........YOU have a problem
Differing opinions make life more interesting .
gary
i think that the part of the brain (and the hormones) that influence sexuality, are heavily influenced by chance.
at puberty, everyones body rolls some dice.
with straight being 1, and maximum-gay being 100.
everyone rolls somewhere between 1 and 100. to determine their raw sexual potential.
this potential may or may not be noticed by the person. but experiences and environmental factors, may shape the raw potential.
this raw sexual potential is slowly lost, as the person gets older.
by the time the person is 30 something, they have little of it left.
by then, it is very hard to form new sexual interests.
even if they can discover old potentials, that were set in stone earlier in their life.
of course all of the above may vary, depending on lots of biological factors. but i think that is how it works in general.
Most people have had several lives on earth (some hundreds or thousands), in both sexes. It usually doesn't switch every other life, but there is a tendency to have a balance of the two over "time". One life is not exactly the same "you" as in another life â€" it's more like a different (but to a degree overlapping) aspect or fragment of the "real you" ("soul"). And, for example, several aspects (or parts of them) of previous lives can combine in a new life, which makes memories of past lives so confusing (and mostly not verifiable). The whole issue gets more complicated if one considers that these aspect don't have to incarnate in a sequence but can do it at any time in any order and also at the same times â€" so a past life might actually be a future life, and so on...
So the "real you" includes both sexes equally, but it was easier to get certain (and more intensive) experiences to have a physical body of one kind (besides of other practical properties). However, people are now starting to integrate both male and female aspects, where bisexuality is only a part of it â€" it's more of becoming a whole, complete being. A human who doesn't need another person, but still can choose to be with others but without having a need for or dependence on them.
So basically the orientation doesn't really matter in a spiritual sense, everybody is all of them already. Sometimes the planning and preparation of a certain life doesn't work out exactly with the availability of a body of the desired, sometimes it's intentional to get a certain kind of "mismatched" experience, sometimes it's just a (non-permanent) choice... The "real you" is all of them anyways...
Quote from: shooter001 on October 28, 2008, 08:18:11 PM
Spock: According to my records the implementation of the religious system was designed by this ancient race in order to cause these beings to look outside of themselves for there meaning rather than to look within to know there own creative potential.
Shooter to Kirk: We are currently observing an increase in sightings of new craft and will keep you posted, shooter out.
Kirk: We are from the 23rd Century, so we know the light is within.
Kirk: Our mission here is historical, were documenting the divine intervention, which, for us, is history.
Kirk: We have noticed an exponential increase in extraterrestrial ships over the past 6 months.
Kirk: There are areas which a visited frequently and regularly...
Quote from: resonanceman on October 28, 2008, 09:05:09 PM
Resonanceman to Kirk
Try to hale the GFL ships on subspace .
Tell them to hurry it up a bit ......we aint gettin any younger down here ..
:)
gary
Kirk: The Galactic Federation Ships are holding station waiting for the Earth Allies to complete their operation.
Kirk: Once the Illuminati are secured you will be seeing the Galactic Federation Ships...
Quote from: Fast on October 28, 2008, 08:01:23 PM
They love money and money is the root of all evil.
Howdy Fast,
Not quite right there. The LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all evil. I see people get this wrong all the time. Money is a tool, a medium of exchange, it is neither good nor evil. It is the LOVE OF MONEY (greed) which is evil. St. Germain wants to get rid of money altogether, and I agree with this, then we would not go hoarding money. When we can all peacefully coexist and share with one another then we will not need money.
It kind of reminds me of life in the 24th century Star Trek where everyone is provided everything they need technologically and there is not a need for the type of ambition that engenders greed and avarice. Gold is simply a material for construction and not money so there is no need to hoard it. The Replicator would do a lot for humanity, which in a simplistic way is what humans should be able to do, precipitate needed matter directly on command.
Quote from: jeanna on October 28, 2008, 11:34:17 PM
For me the importance of this topic is about One's sense of reality.
Howdy Jeanna,
You were created in the likeness of your creator. You are a creator yourself. Each of us creates our own reality. What we consider to be common reality is where the individual realities merge together and generate a common reality we share together here on Earth. In our minds we have unlimited possibilities to create new independent realities.
Blessed Be Y'all...
Those wiley lightship folks fed some disinformation. Boy did them there dark fellows who can't seem to get it through their "illuminated" reality that they've been fed a crock of shit for a long long time show some signs of confusion. The wealthy suppose to have wealth don't they. Hmmm now the bubble bursts and the wealthy illusionists are seen for what they are. Con men and slave traders. Backed up by the courts and armies on every continent since the beginning of time.
Quote from: shooter001 on October 28, 2008, 07:51:18 PM
Sheldon Nidle Channel UPDA TE!
Our knowledge requires that it be an exchange based on Love and caring for each other. This is a natural process during which you learn about your true history and off-world origins. This period of open interaction is to last as long as necessary. We have come up with a prospective timetable, which we conveyed to you in past messages. We look forward to these first exchanges and to then familiarizing you with our technologies.
Howdy Shooter001,
This is why this thread pertains to Overunity. As a planet, our technologies have plateaued and we are left at an impasse. What we desperately need is an infusion of new ideas to "kick start" our spiritual and technological growth. Open interaction with the Galactic Federation provides this seed to revitalize our spirituality and technologies. By learning about celestial life, and their advanced technologies we can "get over the hump" that is preventing us from utilizing free energy. Within a year of first contact we will see a paradigm shift in technology. Devices and technologies that we cannot fathom the existence of at the moment will be commonplace soon. We will see this paradigm shift because the spiritual changes in man. Man will learn to have communion with his higher self, which will bring information from the higher realms into the physical plane. The Galactic Federation is not going to give us what we already have. The infusion of information from higher realms will be the catalyst that launches free energy and overunity into the public domain, and it will be as commonplace as gasoline and power line distribution of electricity. Everyone is going to benefit from this cultural exchange, even the Galactic Federation...
Blessed Be, Y'all...
Quote from: z.monkey on October 29, 2008, 02:22:08 PM
Not quite right there. The LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all evil.
Hello
You're right, my bad. I was thinking of the old saying, money is the root of all evil. But that's not right like you say.
I should have quoted scripture instead of corrupt interpretations.
2 Timothy 3
But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days.
2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.
Quote from: resonanceman on October 28, 2008, 10:29:01 PM
The concept that your eternal life can be stolen from you is pure BS taught by religions to keep the flock fearful . It is pure corruption.
A God that would allow his creations to be sent to hell and tortured for eternity is my idea of truly mean spirited .
Keep in mind that God is all powerful all knowing and all present .......at least that is what I was taught in sunday school .
So if this happens it is Gods will .....and that means God is evil ...... creating life just to torture it .
God is NOT like that .
Hi
It just seem strange to me why you ignore evil. Do you ignore the evil geed in the world to?
But I understand now where you're coming from.
And everybody have eternal life, just to make things clear. It's were you want to spend this eternity.
With God (all good comes from him) or without God (all this good goes away with him)
So it's not a thing about torture is it. It's about you was given a free will to choose if you would like to spend eternity with the creator or not.
Do you see the love in this? Picture you have a child of you're own, would you love it so much that you could say to that child that, if you want to you can leave from me. If you don't want me to be you're father you can leave.
Could you love someone that much, and say you don't have to be with me if you want. If you choose to leave I will let you go.
If you're pet was to say to you I want to leave, could you love it that much that you would let it go.
Would you like to have a father that say no I will never let you go, you are mine forever and you don't have a say in the matter.
Steven Greer's AERO and Orion Project: sincere effort to usher in free energy or eloquent intel. front
Steven Greer, the chairman of The Disclosure Project, the organization founded in the early ninety nineties to disclose the presence of extraterrestrials and government suppression of evidence regarding the matter has taken on a newer, more daring escapade. This time, disclosing free energy technology to the world by presenting a robust , functional, closed loop, multiple kilowatt free energy device to the world, in tandem with a myriad of free energy inventors and a network of elite celebrities who are determined to see clean abundant alternatives into to the light. All this will be presented at a conference at the
National Press Club, in the same fashion as his famed 01 conference. The idea is to reach hundreds of millions, to make them aware that there are more clean alternatives than wind , geothermal and solar. He has stated that he is working on having a demonstrator unit built and have it be duplicated and verified by at least three independent sources. So, we assume that there are no robust units available in the public domain and that this is the obstacle to the grand press conference. He founded two organizations in this light- a non profit- Orion Project- to develop technology and a standard company- AERO(Advanced Energy Research Organization) for marketing. In addition to this, he has asked for the public to donate three million dollars for a research facility. He states repeatedly through radio talk shows and visual presentations that all free energy inventors needs to work with him because that's the only way they can get around the ardent suppression of the last 100 years. The suppression is without doubt but the fact of the matter is that there are numerous free energy machines in the public domain, robust , multiple kilowatt. They are few and far between , but the holders of these units would be more than happy to give Greer a unit if they believed he was sincere. Greer does not have to have it build and some have been on record for multiple decades and their validity is incontrovertible, already verified and either ready for production as is or on the
brink of it. It is doubtful that he is not aware of:
1. testatika 3kw self running, harnessing electrostatic energy, multiple units, ranging from 300 watts to 30 kilowatts have been running Meternitha ,Switzerland for the last 30 years
2. bedini generator 10kw, runs John Bedini's workshop lights, New Energy Series dvds
3. newman generator - has been on record for 20 years , validated by 40 professionals, Joe Newman appeared on johnny Carson, and given wide media coverage, has videos on google video showing his machines work
4. Daniel Dingel water cars, on record since 1968, has multiple cars running on water for everyday driving and farm work, Daniel Dingel is not dead and his cars, which exist today are as functional as anything Stan Meyer came up with.
Based of of his cozy relationship with people like the Rockefellers( the illuminati) and his lack of action as far the obvious is concerned, it must be looked upon as a likely possibility that whole affair may be nothing but a trojan hose, keeping tracks on inventors and keeping them from attempting anything on their own.this is not a novel concept, the Noetics Institute of Edgar mitchell is just that. On the other hand , free energy is not intangible such as aliens, and we are at the cusp of a totalitarian police state- the new world order- and free energy would disrupt that
i call upon governing members of the free energy movement, such as Sterling d Allan and Tom Beardan to look into this affair because something stinks
Quote from: Fast on October 29, 2008, 05:02:00 PM
It just seem strange to me why you ignore evil. Do you ignore the evil geed in the world to?
But I understand now where you're coming from.
No you don't ..........not even close .
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And everybody have eternal life, just to make things clear. It's were you want to spend this eternity.
With God (all good comes from him) or without God (all this good goes away with him)
Do you see the love in this? Picture you have a child of you're own, would you love it so much that you could say to that child that, if you want to you can leave from me. If you don't want me to be you're father you can leave.
Could you love someone that much, and say you don't have to be with me if you want. If you choose to leave I will let you go.
If you're pet was to say to you I want to leave, could you love it that much that you would let it go.
Would you like to have a father that say no I will never let you go, you are mine forever and you don't have a say in the matter.
Make up your mind .
Either you are judged by God or you are not.
In this post all your examples are of non judgment .
In other posts you made a point of talking about harsh judgment
I have no problems with the God you describe in this post .
But this is not the same kind of God you talk about in other posts.
My message remains the same . Love is the answer.
Please decide if your God is judgmental and sends people to hell
or if he is a loving benevolent God.
If he is loving and benevolent there is no hell as your religion teaches .
A loving God would allow his children to play in the darkness if they chose ..........but he would never condemn them to darkness for eternity just because they wanted to play a little .
gary
I got this link from another forum I watch.
http://www.newmessage.org/special-teachings/resisting-the-intervention.php (http://www.newmessage.org/special-teachings/resisting-the-intervention.php)
Have a look, and think about our possible probable naivety.
This is the crux of the matter for me.
Jeanna
Quote from: jeanna on October 29, 2008, 07:21:52 PM
I got this link from another forum I watch.
http://www.newmessage.org/special-teachings/resisting-the-intervention.php (http://www.newmessage.org/special-teachings/resisting-the-intervention.php)
Have a look, and think about our possible probable naivety.
This is the crux of the matter for me.
Jeanna
Jeanna
I just listened to resisting the intervention.
I don't disagree .....but it is not my way.
I found him a little hard to
listen to.
Did you notice that the last words in each sentence tended to end up
in a whisper :)
I prefer an approach that focuses more
on love .
Ga
ry
I did not like it, myself.
However, I wanted to relay that same message without focusing on composing it.
So, I supplied the link.
wysiwyg, you know. I want to keep the wys part clean. ;)
jeanna
Quote from: jeanna on October 29, 2008, 07:21:52 PM
I got this link from another forum I watch.
http://www.newmessage.org/special-teachings/resisting-the-intervention.php (http://www.newmessage.org/special-teachings/resisting-the-intervention.php)
Have a look, and think about our possible probable naivety.
This is the crux of the matter for me.
Jeanna
It has the same feel as "Allies of Humanity"...
There is a conflict on interest because the author is a leader of a church...
An enlightened friend of mine called "Allies of Humanity" zeta disinfo...
Quote from: resonanceman on October 29, 2008, 07:18:57 PM
Make up your mind .
I have no problems with the God you describe in this post .
But this is not the same kind of God you talk about in other posts.
Hi
Excellent you're starting to understand the word of Christ, the basic teachings you're half way there. That's good, and you agree also. Now do you obey you're father? If you choose to be with him for eternity you would obey him wouldn't you. You know the law, don't you. It's the same here, if you do wrong you go to jail.
I'll tell you a story
When we brake the law, we are guilty.
When a guilty person die, he goes to the judge (God) and he would say, I see that you have done many crimes in you're life, my law states that you go to jail for only one crime and you have done many crimes on my earth. I'm afraid I have to be just and send you to jail unless you can give me 45000 dollars for bail.
Now being dead, you don't have anything of worth on you, and the money in the bank on earth are useless because you cant get it, you are dead now. All you have is you're spiritual body.
When an innocent person die, he also goes to the judge (God) and he would say to you, I see that you also have done many crimes on my earth. Even more horrific than the next guy I sent to jail, these crimes you have done make me sick. My law states that only one crime puts you in jail, I have to be just these perversions you have done certainly send you to jail. Unless you can come up with 89000 dollars for bail.
Now being dead, no different here you only have you're spiritual body, nothing of worth on you.
Getting desperate the innocent man say, but wait I know this guy, he said he would take care of this for me.
God looks in the book of life, ask do you have a check on you? Innocent man looks in his pockets picks up a check, reads 89000 dollars written over 2000 years ago signed Jesus Christ.
God takes the check says you have been forgiven by my only son, you are free to go.
In the eyes of our Lord all children are innocent, the same goes for those that are children mentally like handicapped if they have a mind and understanding of a child, or aborted baby's so they already have a check written for them, they don't need to ask.
However the only way for people to get this check is to ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness for you're crimes. No amount of good work or deeds will rid you of the crimes you have done.
Now a thing churches don't really say about this, is that you need to ask out loud for forgiveness, not yelling, but with you're own voice. Not just a silent pray for forgiveness in you're mind.
I see the confusion about judgement, and I understand it's hard to get all the information together.
If I may, I would like to give you a book, that explain these things. It's free, you can even order a free copy if you want.
(PDF)
http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/SG.pdf
Here you can get it in different languages or in text form
http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=e-book
If you want to skip chapters, I recommend you go to
Chapter 4 "What good reason could God possibly have in creating darkness and evil?"
or Chapter 8 God’s Sovereignty Over Sickness Death, and the Curse
However I do think to get the full understanding the whole book need to be read.
Ps.119:160 “The sum of thy word is truthâ€
Quote from: Fast on October 29, 2008, 10:27:34 PM
Hi
Excellent you're starting to understand the word of Christ, the basic teachings you're half way there. That's good, and you agree also. Now do you obey you're father? If you choose to be with him for eternity you would obey him wouldn't you. You know the law, don't you. It's the same here, if you do wrong you go to jail.
I'll tell you a story
When we brake the law, we are guilty.
When a guilty person die, he goes to the judge (God) and he would say, I see that you have done many crimes in you're life, my law states that you go to jail for only one crime and you have done many crimes on my earth. I'm afraid I have to be just and send you to jail unless you can give me 45000 dollars for bail.
Now being dead, you don't have anything of worth on you, and the money in the bank on earth are useless because you cant get it, you are dead now. All you have is you're spiritual body.
When an innocent person die, he also goes to the judge (God) and he would say to you, I see that you also have done many crimes on my earth. Even more horrific than the next guy I sent to jail, these crimes you have done make me sick. My law states that only one crime puts you in jail, I have to be just these perversions you have done certainly send you to jail. Unless you can come up with 89000 dollars for bail.
Now being dead, no different here you only have you're spiritual body, nothing of worth on you.
Getting desperate the innocent man say, but wait I know this guy, he said he would take care of this for me.
God looks in the book of life, ask do you have a check on you? Innocent man looks in his pockets picks up a check, reads 89000 dollars written over 2000 years ago signed Jesus Christ.
God takes the check says you have been forgiven by my only son, you are free to go.
In the eyes of our Lord all children are innocent, the same goes for those that are children mentally like handicapped if they have a mind and understanding of a child, or aborted baby's so they already have a check written for them, they don't need to ask.
However the only way for people to get this check is to ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness for you're crimes. No amount of good work or deeds will rid you of the crimes you have done.
Now a thing churches don't really say about this, is that you need to ask out loud for forgiveness, not yelling, but with you're own voice. Not just a silent pray for forgiveness in you're mind.
I see the confusion about judgement, and I understand it's hard to get all the information together.
If I may, I would like to give you a book, that explain these things. It's free, you can even order a free copy if you want.
(PDF)
http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/SG.pdf
Here you can get it in different languages or in text form
http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=e-book
If you want to skip chapters, I recommend you go to
Chapter 4 "What good reason could God possibly have in creating darkness and evil?"
or Chapter 8 God’s Sovereignty Over Sickness Death, and the Curse
However I do think to get the full understanding the whole book need to be read.
Ps.119:160 “The sum of thy word is truthâ€
Fast
You are still not getting that your basic truths are flawed .
They are corrupt .
Your story is very nice ...... but what you seem to forget is God created everything in the situation.
If ANYONE ends up standing before God guilty of crimes and doesn't have a check ........ God is responsible for that happening .
IT WAS GODS CHOICE TO ALLOW IT.
God was not ignorant when he created free will.
He created it for a reason
Why would he judge us for something that he created and put into our lives?
Judging us for using our free will would be like killing a baby because it had the nerve to shit in its diaper
gary
It is arrogance to believe in a God creator, it makes you feel special that an all powerful deity saw fit to create you, but if you want to believe in an all powerful creator that makes huge mistakes, then who am I to argue, have at it, but the world is growing and slowly religion is beginning to lose it's foot hold.
I have a great idea.. how about you guys and gals start your own Galactic Forum and leave this one, as this thread has nothing to do with overunity.
Peace,
Jason
Quote from: 4Tesla on October 30, 2008, 02:30:53 AM
I have a great idea.. how about you guys and gals start your own Galactic Forum and leave this one, as this thread has nothing to do with overunity.
Peace,
Jason
I note this complaint comes up only when religion is discussed.
Odd there are no complaints in these threads, they are also nothing to do with overunity.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5906.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5303.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4809.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5910.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5650.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5696.0
Quote from: 4Tesla on October 30, 2008, 02:30:53 AM
I have a great idea.. how about you guys and gals start your own Galactic Forum and leave this one, as this thread has nothing to do with overunity.
Peace,
Jason
Quote from: shooter001 on October 28, 2008, 06:51:18 PM
Sheldon Nidle Channel UPDA TE!
Our knowledge requires that it be an exchange based on Love and caring for each other. This is a natural process during which you learn about your true history and off-world origins. This period of open interaction is to last as long as necessary. We have come up with a prospective timetable, which we conveyed to you in past messages. We look forward to these first exchanges and to then familiarizing you with our technologies.
Quote from: z.monkey on October 29, 2008, 02:49:06 PM
Howdy Shooter001,
This is why this thread pertains to Overunity. As a planet, our technologies have plateaued and we are left at an impasse. What we desperately need is an infusion of new ideas to "kick start" our spiritual and technological growth. Open interaction with the Galactic Federation provides this seed to revitalize our spirituality and technologies. By learning about celestial life, and their advanced technologies we can "get over the hump" that is preventing us from utilizing free energy. Within a year of first contact we will see a paradigm shift in technology. Devices and technologies that we cannot fathom the existence of at the moment will be commonplace soon. We will see this paradigm shift because the spiritual changes in man. Man will learn to have communion with his higher self, which will bring information from the higher realms into the physical plane. The Galactic Federation is not going to give us what we already have. The infusion of information from higher realms will be the catalyst that launches free energy and overunity into the public domain, and it will be as commonplace as gasoline and power line distribution of electricity. Everyone is going to benefit from this cultural exchange, even the Galactic Federation...
Blessed Be, Y'all...
Howdy 4Tesla,
Well, again, yeah it does. Look at you screen name, 4Tesla. I have spent many years researching Nicola Tesla. Spent many dollars buying books about Tesla (before the internet). Spent many, many hours building Tesla's technologies. Tesla is a Hero in this forum (overunity.com). What if I told you that Nicola Tesla had telepathic and radio communication with extraterrestrial beings? I not talking about zetas, but Ascended Masters, Angels and such.
My quest for free energy started 20 years ago. The very most recent experiments are documented in this forum. When I joined this forum I was pursuing Soft Particles, which are basically the non-photonic energies transmitted by the sun. Built a Soft Particle Reactor and explained it in great detail. This evolved into the Infinity Coil. As my knowledge base grew my ideas and experiments reflect the greater understanding of "radiant" energy. Further along the path I started messing with Electrinium theory, and now I am looking at what could theoretically power a massive starship off of star emissions, both photonic and non-photonic. We have all of little experiments here on Overuinity.com. Some generate a little overunity, but not a significant amount. No one has claimed the Overunity Prize yet. If there are experiments out there that are generating a significant amount of power they are either secret, or proprietary (pending patent). So, going to the extreme ends of knowledge to solve a problem is not unthinkable. You have to find all the pieces of the puzzle before you can solve the puzzle.
The Galactic Federation has and uses, and is willing to show us how to build and use free energy technologies. Believe it or not, my quest for overunity has led me to outer space and the furthest reaches of the mind. Soft Particle Physics and Superlight theories have led me to believe that the source of all "free" energies are stars. This is confirmed by the information that I have found concerning the propulsion of GF Ships. They describe their power source as a miniature star. Some described it as a Super Nova. While this is not tangible evidence, it is a corroborating theory. But when you start assembling the pieces of the puzzle they surprisingly start fitting together.
So, ultimately, this "Alien" thread is about free energy and electrogravity systems. We only had to get all the research materials into the thread first. So now that we have this theoretical knowledge lets do some brainstorming. How would one generate a non-nuclear miniature star power source in order to build a terrestrial starship, heh get it,
Starship? Is that the origin of the name?
Starship? OK, how about something on a more modest scale like a portable generator that is made from mineral element that collects and rectifies sunlight and stores it in capacitors. What if it could do this even when the sun isn't shinning, or when deep underground. What I am talking about is Henry Moray's Radiant Energy Receiver. Superlight theory has been around for more than 100 years, we should do more with it. This is another thing that Tesla was aware of. Both Tesla and Moray called Superlight "cosmic" rays. Both utilized them!
Blessed Be Y'all...
:o :o :o
The following video could clear up some confusion about a lot of stuff being discussed and debated over here.
Its a vid of a supposed representative of the Galactic Federation telling everything!! (well, he claims 2 be a part of the Fed in the vid!!)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=223340487918013901&hl=en
Gh. J.
@zmonkey
What is interesting is that light can be assigned an electromagnetic frequency.
There are times when light does not exist as dielectric polarization but exists as magnetic polarization. The dielectric polarization is said to create a current that induces the magnetic polarization. The magnetic polarization then induces the dielectric polarization. In the aforementioned current I ask a current of what? And are we now to assume that magnetic polarization does not have to produce a current of something to result in a dielectric polarization. Perhaps light is just as it appears to behave and that would be a wave in an aether of varying densities. Of course present day particle physics goes right out the window with a living aether replacing a dead cold spacetime continuom.
:o :o :o
and now for all those who thought how could UFO's be connected to Free Energy / Over Unity !!
For which, we probably need to understand how the universe works! and now you have someone proposing a theory about the workings of the nature of universe and a correlation of the theory in the form a crop circle emerges! olrite enough of this but you guys need to watch this video completely to get the the point im trying to put across!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6151699791256390335&hl=en
Gh. J.
Sorry repeat!
Quote from: RunningBare on October 30, 2008, 04:03:39 AM
I note this complaint comes up only when religion is discussed.
Odd there are no complaints in these threads, they are also nothing to do with overunity.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5906.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5303.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4809.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5910.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5650.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5696.0
There aren't complaints about these threads because they are dead.. this one isn't.
Howdy Y'all,
Another update from Mark Kimmel...
http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Marks_Corner/
Blessed Be, Y'all
Thursday, October 30, 2008
Enslavement?
The following communication was provided on 10/30/08. This is my 15th posting to Mark’s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order.
Today we welcome back Bren-Ton. (Note that I have changed my spelling of his name to more accurately reflect his pronunciation.) This illustrates how any communication from a non-human is subject to filtering by the human mind. I am no exception; please read these messages with discernment. Make up your own mind as to what they mean to you. The following message is the result of questioning by several people who say that they do not feel enslaved.
We who observe your planet and its people from afar appreciate what the dark energy that descended upon you wrought. Although that dark energy is now lifting, the enslavement of Earth’s peoples remains. What is most interesting to us is that most people so do not appreciate how much they are enslaved. Your enslavement has been done so cleverly that person merely assumes that these conditions are the way things are, and never question how it might be different. I am not suggesting an advance to a higher level of existence; I am pointing out that things could be much better in this 3rd dimensional existence without the efforts of the agents of the dark energy.
Perhaps an example will help make things clear. Let us take a fictional family: A father who works for a financial institution, a mother who works part-time in a medical clinic, and a child who attends a traditional school. Much off what his family unit is living out has been handed down to them from their forebearers. They have inherited certain ways of seeing and coping with reality. They are creating their experience based on what they have received from their forebearers in terms of history, religion, and society.
Let us look first at the father. He believes that he must “earn†money to feed, cloth and shelter his family. He does this by going to work each day. At the bank he lends money to people. I would point out that he assumes that lending is the proper way in which monies are to be transferred to others. On our 3rd dimensional planets, we charge no interest on monies. Money is simple a medium of exchange. The whole concept of lending, or money based on lending, is a cleverly constructed scheme promulgated by those who wish to enslave. A bank is an institution created at the instigation of the enslavers.
The father in this fictional family also believes that he must dress and behave in certain ways to be accepted by his peers. This too is a form of enslavement. He also believes that he must show up at work at a predetermined time and go home according to the clock. This is more enslavement. The books and records of the bank are another enslavement mechanism. If all of this structure were taken away, we would have a free flow of money, not one controlled by financial institutions. So maybe you can begin to glimpse the enslavement that has been foisted upon your society by this simple example.
As for the mother, she has been taught certain ways to manage her child, through rewards and punishment -- in order to keep the child safe and secure, to teach or train him or her. To a great extent, this was handed down from the mother’s parents. Some of it is true; most is designed to control the upbringing of children, to prepare them to fit the chains and shackles of adulthood.
The mother also works in a medical clinic where she processes paperwork. Here we see the hand of the institution of insurance and the medical establishment. The medical establishment has set up certain rules by which doctors may administer to their patients. Again all of this is highly structured. At this moment in your history this is all cleverly designed to treat symptoms rather than cure patients, and to keep money flowing. There is no mention that all is energy, and that the human body can be affected by simple energy techniques without the need for expensive medical care. This is known on my planet; it was known on yours also until the dark energy clouded it.
As for the child, he or she is subjected to learning certain things to prepare them to fit into society. The school does not teach them to think; rather they are taught how to behave. Their individuality is submerged into the norms of that which society wishes for to its little people. Children are also forced to memorize knowledge about history, religion, and society.
In the larger scheme of things, the overlords of your society have cleverly structured things to be in a constant state of chaos: nothing may be know for sure, nothing is totally predictable, and nothing and no one can be totally counted on because all is in a state of flux. Ask yourself why it is that most major problems receive band-aids rather than solutions. Why does fundamental restructuring never take hold? Layers upon layers of false premises are intertwined into an impossible morass of rules and traditions. This all is designed by the puppet masters to confuse all, to keep all in a state of flux without end.
I contrast this with our civilization where the dark energy has not impacted us. Money is a medium of exchange; it is never lent. It is available as needed, to accomplish that which is desired. Few institutions and rules are required because people operate based on the best for all concerned. They are motivated by the desire to do well and to achieve the highest result. Everyone is healthy; there are not artificially induced diseases. People are taught from an early age to take care of and to respect their bodies. Parents are more interested in doing that which is in the best interests of their child than making sure the child will fit in. Fitting in is not a problem as everyone is accepted for whom they truly are. There is no need to put up a false pretence as everyone communicates telepathically. Children feel happy and free to express themselves.
Again, I say you do not appreciate how enslaved you are. We are beginning to understand how blinded you have been, and offer these brief comparisons to our cultures so that you may understand what you may create after the playing field is leveled -- after the removal of the agents of dark energy.
I am Bren-Ton of the star system Andromeda. Those of us who observe your planet and its peoples wish you only the best. We are here to assist your transition.
That’s it for today folks. I am optimistic that events in the coming weeks will herald a new beginning for civilization on our planet.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
Quote from: 4Tesla on October 30, 2008, 02:30:53 AM
I have a great idea.. how about you guys and gals start your own Galactic Forum and leave this one, as this thread has nothing to do with overunity.
Peace,
Jason
So, 4Tesla, are you on a mission to stamp out inappropriate forum material? That kinda sounds like
censorship to me...
Quote from: 4Tesla on October 30, 2008, 03:50:29 PM
There aren't complaints about these threads because they are dead.. this one isn't.
Well go figure, and this one keeps going, I wonder why ;)
i gotta stop and laugh my ass off here, one of z.monkeys first posts was telling someone to ignore me, that yanking peoples chains is what i do... and look at this pile of fairytale dreams, this thread. yanking chains indeed z. only it's you on the yanking end.
oh and you're wrong about the "love of money" (greed) being evil. i see people get this wrong all the time ::)
there is no evil or good. there is simply choices, some are less expedient than others but that's what they are, choices. there is no black/white/gray/good/evil. it's SIMPLY A CHOICE.
if there is ANY evil on this planet, it is religion.
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on October 30, 2008, 06:05:27 PM
if there is ANY evil on this planet, it is religion.
WilbyInebriated
I didn't think I would agree with you on anything .
I guess there is a first for everything
:)
gary
Howdy Wilby...
Yeah, you're right! This is all a fantastic pipe dream, and religion is bad for your health....
Blessed Be Brother....
Quote from: Gheller J on October 30, 2008, 01:15:18 PM
a theory about the workings of the nature of universe and a correlation of the theory in the form a crop circle emerges! olrite enough of this but you guys need to watch this video completely to get the the point im trying to put across!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6151699791256390335&hl=en
Gh. J.
Thank you Gh J That is a really interesting presentation. It took all day to watch, but it was worth it.
Now, rubbing my sore eyes
good night,
Jeanna
Youre welcome Jeanna.
Its long but hope some of the guys out here who've been critical abt the whole UFO issue watch this! lt would be a revelation for most of them
:) Gh. J.
Quote from: z.monkey on October 30, 2008, 07:48:42 PM
Howdy Wilby...
Yeah, you're right! This is all a fantastic pipe dream, and religion is bad for your health....
Blessed Be Brother....
monkey, are you still posting here? Didn't you want this to quietly go away in order to forget and bury your schizophrenic delusions about your demons coming down to get you?
Or you want more? You and your delusional friends.
On a lighter note I have a confession to make...I was reading the paper and got one of those silent farts thatg kill EVERYTHING around you while you glow in a bliss of.. well, whatever is it that the stench makes you see...
Suddenly one of those loving aliens fell off of the ceiling light in the room, one of those halogen apendices that look nice, being all stainless steel and all that...
And died, poor bugger. I must've killed him with my silent startler...
Ye reckon I should feel guilty? Maybe he was channelling some shit to me and I didn't realise...Anyways, I'll sell the body to one of you who believe in this crap.
Any takers? I mean, you went on with that bullshit for so long, you should not turn your backs on your own schizofrenic/manic delusions. You'd appear as liars and hypocrites. And we can't have that, now can we?
Given the significance of the corpse (it proves you were all right and aliens exist) I'm offering it at a discount price. Hurry, buy now!!!
Quote from: z.monkey on October 30, 2008, 07:09:28 AM
Look at you screen name, 4Tesla. I have spent many years researching Nicola Tesla. Spent many dollars buying books about Tesla (before the internet). Spent many, many hours building Tesla's technologies. Tesla is a Hero in this forum (overunity.com). What if I told you that Nicola Tesla had telepathic and radio communication with extraterrestrial beings? I not talking about zetas, but Ascended Masters, Angels and such.
Az alwayz you are talking nonsense. Dr. Nikola Tesla, while still in good health, has never specified who he was "in contact" except that he was receiving radio signals from the space which he attributed to a possible extraterrestrial civilisations.
At the end of his life, Dr. Tesla fell ill possibly with schizofrenia, which you could be familiar with yourself. Only
then he started talking about being in communication with the sources of these transmissions he was receiving.
But never once he mentioned grand vezirs of Aldebaran, or angels and all that shit. For your information, although his own father was an orthodox priest, Dr. Tesla was not religious. To the contrary. He was a scientist to the last cell of his body and did not believe. His motto was: "there's nothing to believe and everything to know."
Dr. Nikola Tesla only respected the knowledge. And knowledge comes from the facts that are verifiable and repeatable.
So, although I know I am telling this to a southern wind, stop talking nonsense you have no idea of. As for your "years" of building Dr. Tesla's technologies, you've built sweet all.
You are making a fool of yourself. (very skilfully, I must add, just like the rest of believers around here.)
Crap, I am being "undemocratical" again and intruding into your "freedom" of speach, right?
Well, tough. I am exercising mine to tell you how much crap people like yourself are spilling and polluting the air and intellect of those who are still in good mental health.
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 31, 2008, 06:51:01 AM
Az alwayz you are talking nonsense. Dr. Nikola Tesla, while still in good health, has never specified who he was "in contact" except that he was receiving radio signals from the space which he attributed to a possible extraterrestrial civilisations.
At the end of his life, Dr. Tesla fell ill possibly with schizofrenia, which you could be familiar with yourself. Only then he started talking about being in communication with the sources of these transmissions he was receiving.
But never once he mentioned grand vezirs of Aldebaran, or angels and all that shit. For your information, although his own father was an orthodox priest, Dr. Tesla was not religious. To the contrary. He was a scientist to the last cell of his body and did not believe. His motto was: "there's nothing to believe and everything to know."
Dr. Nikola Tesla only respected the knowledge. And knowledge comes from the facts that are verifiable and repeatable.
So, although I know I am telling this to a southern wind, stop talking nonsense you have no idea of. As for your "years" of building Dr. Tesla's technologies, you've built sweet all.
You are making a fool of yourself. (very skilfully, I must add, just like the rest of believers around here.)
Crap, I am being "undemocratical" again and intruding into your "freedom" of speach, right?
Well, tough. I am exercising mine to tell you how much crap people like yourself are spilling and polluting the air and intellect of those who are still in good mental health.
whatever
All energy and truth based forums are littered with paid disinformation agents, who's goal is to discredit and marginalize all who seek to bring forth the fact that our so called leaders are really criminally insane inbred sociopaths.
Then there are those who think they know everything, and willingly go along with the grand scam by taking pot shots at anyone trying to expose the game.
From my experience on this forum, there are few here who can figuratively carry Z's lunch bucket.
Regards...
Quote from: z.monkey on October 16, 2008, 06:00:48 PM
Howdy Hans,
Yeah, the NWO/Illuminati are using nuclear blackmail against the Galactic Federation. The GF wants to help us, but if they do that the NWO is going to nuke Earth. This makes Christ Michael VERY angry. This is why there is major undercover operation on Earth right now. The GF has to surreptitiously thwart the actions of the NWO or else no one gets to live here...
Pretty Heavy...
Blessed Be Brother...
It looks like you had right about this. >:(
Here is the two latest channelings from Blossom:
3. Oct 31st.
Hello my friends … I’ve been chatting with Ric and we feel that it is time to end the ‘snapshot’ book. Not that I will be stopping channeling, but we need to wrap things up for the book and we always felt that no matter what happened the end of Oct would be a good time. Does this feel right for you?
If this feels necessary for you, although we would say that there is so much more to come .
Then would you prefer to leave things as they are and continue on in this fashion and I’ll leave it up to you as to when the book is to be completed.
This is agreeable to us. You have spoken words that this is just the beginning … and indeed this is so. Do you not feel the birthing of the new understanding? For those who care to look around and within it is apparent that the world as it has been presented to you shall no longer suffice. It can no longer hold ground in the manner that has been portrayed. The time is upon all that is known as the human race to make changes for the self and the planet. The NEW DAWN is indeed arising. We that assist your upliftment are in awe of the standing that appears within the Light of so many.
I was so looking forward to today’s channeling and yet the link isn’t terribly strong … and you just fed me the word … interference. Shall we persevere or let it be? ( Very odd, I closed my eyes and saw myself being beaten round the head over and over with a cricket bat! MMM!!! I just did a little visualization of ‘topping up’ my sword of Light.)
Nope … it’s just not happening, and I shall have to accept that. I will try again tomorrow. The last thing I would ever do is force the issue. Sorry, folks, I know many of you are waiting … maybe that’s it … the subconscious pressure?
So ... unusual as this is for this channeling page, may I divert you, the reader, to a podcast I did yesterday with Brad Johnson on
http://www.10-14-08.blogspot.com
I had the most beautiful confirmation from White Cloud at the beginning of this week that all is well. I do not have the time to write it down just now but I tell the story on this podcast. Let’s hope tomorrow will bring a stronger link. Many thanks. Golden Rays Rule!
4.( Nov 1st. )
Well, it’s a new day. I so hope you are able to communicate, but if you can’t, you can’t, and I shall have to accept that.
Dear lady we are with you. We must contain thoughts.
What do you mean by that and why?
There is a thunderbolt that is underlying our transmission. There are many who wish us not to get through. There are those who desire a package of ill truth to be transmitted. There are all manner of miscommunications taking place at this point to confuse. Since our message was first transcribed and sent out by you, there has been mass development regarding the future of your planet. There are those who are deeply opposed to this evolvement, for it means there downfall on a scale that is vast. We wish no harm to the ones who have created such devastation; we desire only that your planet regains its beauty and Truth. If we were to wish harm on another being of life then we would not be creating this new world we know can be created by you of earth. Let it be known that the resonance that is filtering through your planet at this given time is preparing you for what lies ahead.
You question as to why our ship was not presented to you in the manner we had promised. You question as to whether it was ever going to be of that way that we presented. We say to you that our plans had to be aborted at the last minute. Many of you will accept this. Many will not. We can only give to you how it is. Yes, we are still here. Yes we will continue to be here until our task is finished. We have said many times that we have waited too long for this to fall on its feet.
Look how you are assisting us, even though there was disappointment on a large scale, look how your hearts are telling you that we are of Truth. We cannot persuade those at this point, who feel they were deceived, to rethink. That is not for us to do, for it is part of their soul’s journey. However we can tell you that there shall come a time when all shall be made clear and we say to you in LOVE that this shall be given to you when least expected. We have learnt much through the non appearance. Initially we were gravely disappointed also. Especially when we could pick up on the mass disillusionment from so many. And yet … do you not say in your world ‘every cloud has a silver lining’. What this non happening has allowed us to do is far more beneficial than one could realize. We have assessed the ‘glow’ that has emerged due to the very thought of our arrival, and we have noted also how that ‘glow’ is still Lighting up your planet and also allowing many individual souls to receive that ‘glow’ in their hearts . There is much that is taking place on your planet. A revolution of LIGHT has begun BECAUSE of our non appearance. We are overjoyed at this outcome. Those of lesser Light have assisted us in a way they could not have imagined. Do you see†Even those who are in the dark are bringing forth the Light. THE POWER OF LOVE IS BEYOND ALL COMPREHENSION.
A movement has begun in many areas of your planet. Rivulets of determination to renew your planet are now flowing downstream. In the days ahead each one shall merge into the fullness of THE ONE. THE ONE River that flows through all. All that is life.
We have new plans.
That’s good to hear, but let me just say before we go any further, don’t even think about telling me a date …. Because as much as I love and TRUST you … I really don’t think I could go through that again!!!!!
This is understood by us and we are enjoying the colour of your humour at this moment. From little acorns oak trees grow.
Not sure how that fits in with what you are saying but it came through strongly enough that I needed to put it down. So … OK … boldly here I go into the unknown and I am going to ask a question if I may?
Your bravery is excelling itself.
So some say …. There is much confusion between different chanellers regarding whether or not there is such a ship and if it is of Light energy only so therefore, only those that have risen to a certain vibration would see it anyway. Yet … YOU said, that there would be a ship for all to see, so that the argument as to whether there is life on other planets would be dealt with once and for all. Can you elaborate on this quandary please?
Certainly. What WE said is what WE meant. There indeed is ship that can manifest into your vibration and as we said it is one beyond your wildest imaginings.
OoooH … I am picking up on your next sentence …. OOOHHH… shall I? Gotta !!
IT SHALL BE SHOWN TO YOU and then you will know.
NO offence, just a little apprehensive on matters such as you are speaking … I am sure you understand?
To a certain degree and yet dearest friend, this is showing to us that your TRUST level has depleted somewhat. Is this correct?
‘
If it had, believe me , I wouldn’t be talking to you now. The clarification from White Cloud that you are of TRUTH is enough for me. I have no need to question you, for he is someone I TRUST beyond all measure, and if you’re ok in his books, then you are certainly ok in mine. I guess it’s the acceptance that it will actually take place. So many of us were so Trusting and we learned many lessons from that within ourselves. It still is hard to imagine that something like this could actually happen,. Do you know what I mean or not?
Not really, for we are inside the ship therefore we know it exists!!!! All we have to do now is follow our new plans, and we shall not be disclosing them to you at this juncture.
Phew!!
We have understood through what took place on the 14th that it is not wise … for your safety, (and may we say to a degree that many of you may never be aware of) … to reveal our ‘show date’. Yet it shall be so. It shall be so.
We feel we must leave now as we will leave you tired for the rest of your day if we do not.
Yep, understood, could feel us just creeping over that line…. How lovely to be able to chat for so long. Thank you. Thankyou so much.
We say to you the pleasure is all ours.
There are many who shall read this who would disagree. It seems your words give pleasure to a great many. We give thanks for that guys.
5. Nov 2nd.
It is after midnight and I couldn’t sleep. Things were running through my head and I felt a strong desire to communicate with you. ‘I’ may be ok with you not showing, but I know that many want to know why, and I suppose when I really think about it, I guess I wouldn’t mind knowing what YOU have to say, further than ‘for our safety’. So many have shared their thoughts as to what may or may not have happened. I would LOVE it if I could have the real TRUTH from you in more detail. . So here goes …. Ok, so from when I signed off with you two days before the 14th Oct … what happened from your point of view … at what point did you decide to abort the appearance and why?
We were on task as we had given our word to be. We had gained much excitement and we were expecting the Divine plan to go ahead as scheduled. We had not however, anticipated what was to befall us in the coming time that you use as hours in a day to mark specific events.
What those of your planet are mostly unaware of is that, We ,The Federation are not beyond destruction. Although we have technology that is way ahead of that which you feel is advanced in your world, it must be understood that this does not mean that we are indestructible.
Yes, but you were aware surely of any proposal to try and make it look as if you were coming to destroy our planet, and as I know it, if you wanted to, you could blow up this little earth of ours in a second!
You see Blossom; this is where you have misunderstood. It is not within our capacity to ‘blow up’ your little earth, for it is not in our thought process to even comprehend such an action. Therefore, although we are advanced in technology far ahead of you, we have not developed weapons of mass destruction for it is completely outside of our nature to do so. This has been greatly misunderstood by those in your world. However may we say, that is not to say that there are not such weapons. Indeed there are, and we were informed that they would be used, not against us, but against you … when we say ‘you’, we mean millions of innocent people. It was made known to us by those that have ‘agents’ shall we say, that any kind of “GREAT VISUAL TRUTH’ of our existence would put your planet under great threat by those of your planet who do not wish it to be known that we are THE FEDERATION OF LIGHT and we are your ALLIES. Do you see now the dilemma that we were in? Do you see why we had to take serious consideration as to your safety? Our energy of TRUTH that had been so willingly and Lovingly accepted by you and so many of your race was in jeopardy . Yet we had no choice.
But had you not forseen this possibility? To be honest, I had only given it thought that perhaps those of lesser Light, may have staged a war to make it look like YOU were coming to invade US. I am aware of certain projects that can project this etc. but I had not thought that they would literally ‘blow many of us up’ … weird how those words came to mind… would it have been that serious? Would they really have gone that far to keep themselves from falling? God, to be honest … as I’m writing that, I am saying to myself ‘Get real Blossom, Look at what you know of their behaviour already!’ So is that it then? … is that why you didn’t show? So to go back to my question, had you not already thought that this would be a possibility?
Yes, naturally it had come to our attention. But it seemed feasible that we may still go ahead with our plans as we were not sure as to whether we had been put in a situation that might as you say turn out to be ‘bluffing’.
Only they weren’t! ?
Indeed far from it. There could be no compromise under these circumstances. It simply would be against all that we stand for if we had even thought of taking the risk. Can you see now how our beings were drained with disappointment? … Just like those of you on your planet. And far worse than the disappointment was the loss of TRUST that so many would once again encounter. And may we say at this juncture dear lady there was much concern for you and your safety at this point also. How we had hoped to be able to connect with you, but there was a confusion within the matrix that shattered all possibilities of doing so, and by then it was too late.
And to be honest … what would I have done?? If I had suddenly said ‘hey everyone, just been told the whole things off … sorry†… Well to be honest, I just don’t know how I would have dealt with it. As you know I live by ‘ all is as should be’ and that is exactly how it was/is. And apart from the network splattering nasty names about my oh so saintly character … it seems that so much good has managed to come out of it anyway/after all.
Therefore we feel that we have explained that which we have got you out of bed for in the small hours of your morning (1am) to explain.
Yes but to be perfectly honest as you know… I was asking!
Do you feel satisfied with the answer?
Yes and as you said earlier today when we communicated, plans for the future are best kept under wraps. Erm … I wonder why?? I know many will find this difficult … or maybe I underestimate the human race , if so , sorry … but we really must enter into the deepest part of our soul, connect with our Higher self and from that place … send much Light and Love to those who wish us so much harm. And as I am writing that I get a vision of the acute shock their soul will receive in being sent that Light. As if they had to turn away from the brightness of it, for it was too painful. Truly … what a deeply desperate place within anyone’s soul to reside in. I know we must reap what we sow, I know that … dear dear me… Let’s bring that Light into our world and may it encompass all and everything in its brightness … leading us forward to a way of PEACE that we can ALL share.
Dear people of earth …it is with much gratitude we leave this communication this night. We have given our Truth and we are satisfied that it shall be accepted as our explanation by many. Waver not in the strength of who you are. For indeed, not so far away is the revealing glory of all that is of LIGHT. Strike up the band.
I am sincerely hoping this isn’t a new jigsaw?
It is our way of enjoying such interaction with you.
And we shall leave it at that for now. My friends …I thank you. Well worth the ‘not being able to sleep’. Until next time.
OK , on reading this back, I need to just make a query before we sign out. It’s to do with you saying that you are not indestructible. Can you clarify what your intention of this statement is specifying? (God …. That’s a bit ‘grown up’ for me!) Perhaps it’s you in disguise!!!
It is exactly as we stated.
Yes, but then you go on to say that we on earth were in danger and don’t say anything about the fact that your ship may have been destroyed and when you began it seemed as if that was what you intention to explain was. Are you following me?
It may surprise many of you when we say we are not indestructible.
It did me!
All things that are created can be dissolved. For energy is energy. It is OF everything, everything is OF it. Therefore it would be arrogant to say our ship cannot be destroyed.
I think I may have to finish this tomorrow, with all respect. Drowsy to the point of losing the plot altogether now. We shall resume!
It’s now tomorrow. I have to say … it’s sometimes a difficult task being the messenger!!! I am getting in to matters here that seem a little political and anyone who knows me knows that politics is completely out of my league. Gotta say …. Life was so simple and easy before I sent your message out. Now, I find myself on a journey that is completely unexpected. But my journey none the less. And … if this is what I volunteered to do on some other level, which I believe it is then I will try to see it through in the best way I know how, and that is sticking to what my heart says and followingLIGHT LOVE and LAUGHTER at ALL TIMES. I’ve just got to keep going back to that. So thinking on what you said about your ship not being indestructible and me thinking you were going to go off on that tangent and you didn’t, I have decided to leave it as it is. Your words and how you presented them to me are simply how they are. No more , no less. I continue to TRUST that you know best … my heart tells me to do so. Did you want to comment? I might have to approve it! (apologies , just a little joke regarding the re-opening of my blog and comments I am already receiving!)
We are present and we are approving of your comments also! Dearest Lady, the path many of you have chosen can be a little bumpy along the track at times.
Bumpy!!! Would not the term ‘extreme turbulence ‘ be more fitting?
Perhaps so. We would say it would depend on how tightly you were strapped in! You have learnt through many avenues Blossom that it is ones attitude towards all things that allows The Love and The Light and The Laughter to shine through. Always return to this knowledge when you are feeling out of sorts.
I try … I am trying. And it always works … nearly there!
What we chose to express to you in the early hours were what we felt was necessary. We would not think of burdening you with something that you were not able to accept and deal with.
I know you and I are searching for a word that would be more appropriate then ‘deal with’. It’s just not filtering through.
We know that there is much to digest……
Hah! That’s it! That’s the word ‘Digest’. You clever clever … erm … Beings!
We feel it is acceptable for us to leave for this period and resume again another time. Dearest Blossom, do not allow those who are unaware of their True potential to confuse and batter you. If you were to view your planet from our perspective you would be more than overjoyed with the LIGHT that is all around and within … and do you know what? That Light is getting Brighter and Brighter. We are on our way!
Not going to assume what you mean by that. ! With Love in my heart I sign of then. Many thanks.
And to you dearest one … and to you!.
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 31, 2008, 03:26:51 PM
All energy and truth based forums are littered with paid disinformation agents, who's goal is to discredit and marginalize all who seek to bring forth the fact that our so called leaders are really criminally insane inbred sociopaths.
Then there are those who think they know everything, and willingly go along with the grand scam by taking pot shots at anyone trying to expose the game.
From my experience on this forum, there are few here who can figuratively carry Z's lunch bucket.
Regards...
Of course you'd say that, when that's you, right polarman, pink floyd, z.monkey, resonanceman and how many more aliases do you have?
by the way the white cumulonimbus told me last night while I was unable to sleep and was receiving some strange vibes from my refrigerator (I must have been hungry or som'tin like that...) that he'll beat the crap out of you fakes and impostors for stealing his thundr and spreading lies about him and his cronnies.
so, while he was late for the 14 October, he reckons he was still on suspension for speeding on the space-race course around the middle lane in the Milky Way crossing, he's coming and then you impostors, beware. He'll send you where you belong.
Dunno what that means, but it sounded very important, so here it is, with my greetings.
You illuminated people will know exactly what he means with that, right?
And what about that corpse I have? No takers? Bunch of punks. I keep it in my fridge and that's annoying my wife to no end.
Hurry, buy now before I sell it to someone smarter than yous and make the history.
Another trait of the troll is to accuse those who 'out' them of having multiple aliases on the forum they are targeting.
This has now been done...this L-user appears to have confirmed that they are just a troll - not a paid disinfo agent, but a simple troll...to be ignored, or referred to as if they are gone already.
This troll will also fade away, as they always do when the feedback they get is unsatisfying impersonal blowback...something not on their 'things to ingest list'.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 02, 2008, 07:02:05 AM
Another trait of the troll is to accuse those who 'out' them of having multiple aliases on the forum they are targeting.
This has now been done...this L-user appears to have confirmed that they are just a troll - not a paid disinfo agent, but a simple troll...to be ignored, or referred to as if they are gone already.
This troll will also fade away, as they always do when the feedback they get is unsatisfying impersonal blowback...something not on their 'things to ingest list'.
Regards...
are these trolls insulting all threads they don't agree with, or is it just this one?
or do they fully agree with all the other threads, and therefore can only criticize and insult us on this thread????
Everything about the GF is preducted in this movie:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0274518/
I guess you were right all along.
Quote from: alan on November 03, 2008, 11:11:00 AM
Everything about the GF is preducted in this movie:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0274518/
I guess you were right all along.
Although I am not black or a person of color, I find that link to be extremely in very poor taste, racist, and offensive to anyone with the most basic moral compass.
Stefan...would you please remove the offensive link above and its duplication in this posting, from this thread ?
Thank you
What is offensive about it?
the word gaynigger?
I hate rascism, and this is not! The name could be offensive yeah, everyone get offendend in a way now and then.
This is a comedy/satire and should not be taken too seriously m8 :)
Btw, afroamericans say it themself, the word nigger means dumb person. So actually we are rascist when thinking about black people when talking about n's.
Sometimes I am a nigger too. .. :-[
Alan, I realize that there was no ill intent in posting the link.
But at the same time, if it can easily be perceived as racist by a black person, it ends up being racist...intent or not.
The best course of action would have been to acknowledge the faux pas...I hafta say you are just making the hole deeper.
Start bailing, you're taking on water. :)
I remember doing something similar once...now I never fail to remember never to make that mistake that again.
All the best.
Regards...
Nov 4th Sheldon Nidle Channel Update!!
Selamat Jarin! We return with more to say about the events of the day and first contact. Right now, many critical events are happening that are to profoundly affect your world. These events involve the remaking of those corrupt institutions that put your realm in peril. The current fiscal crises demonstrate clearly now the urgent need for global financial reform, not least because what hitherto has been considered appropriate remedies for these problems is no longer viable. All is interrelated, and the growing consciousness of the world needs to be reflected in suitable change. The proposals of our Earth allies fit this bill. Your world requires that the old beliefs in limitation be abandoned as these resulted in a society in which some are extremely wealthy while the majority struggle to maintain a decent living. A solution is to utilize the vast abundance sequestered away by the ultra-rich centuries ago. These special funds, or trusts, have matured and are now ready to be distributed according to the directions of the originators of these funds.
The Ascended Masters used their shrewdness and wisdom to have the wealthy crowned heads of Europe set up a series of special trusts that were to mature at the turn of the millennium. They were intended for the Light workers and those enlightened ones who deeply desired to bring in a new age for Earth's humanity. At this most appropriate time in your history, we observe how this grand plan superbly heralds the very essence of these contemporary times. In support of this, our Earth allies put into play a backup program that supports the payouts prescribed by the Ascended Masters. These programs, too, have reached the payout levels decreed by the Masters. Further, our Earth allies initiated a number of actions that can legally remove the governments that have so far blocked these initial mass payouts. These funds together with the establishing of more agreeable political regimes are to be united with a new system for conducting global banking and the day-to-day operations of your world's business.
This new abundant realm is merely the "baby-steps" for the events that form the prelude to first contact. Among these are many disclosures of long-suppressed technologies. These can greatly reduce pollution; cast you into a new computer age; and end your reliance on fossil-fuel propulsion systems. These new technologies will point the way to an enormous number of revelations about past and present encounters with Beings from other worlds. This news can excite the vivid imagination of your world and lead to a formal announcement of our existence. These possibilities delight us and are the reason for a great deal of our planning for what comes next. You are more than ready for us. We have watched your reactions to many different kinds of information disseminated by your media about us. Most of your reaction is positive, and we have seen that you deeply disagree with the skeptics who are so pervasive in your media. This encourages us to urge our Earth allies to announce to you that we are here and ready to work with you in a post-first-contact world.
Creating the environment for this new world is at the top of our list of priorities. We understand that a series of interlocking events are close to happening, which can set you on the path to manifesting what we are talking about here. The critical bit is the first action that precipitates the rest. Doing this is never as easy as it at first appears. Multiple preliminary actions are required, some of them tedious repetitions of each other. But each one builds upon the other, creating a foundation that finally achieves a prearranged critical point. Then more building blocks extend the base outwards and upwards, and all this takes time. The good news is, the first actions blossomed as planned; a global base now exists and is at a definitive stage. The elements for a multitiered monetary system are ready to manifest and the protocols for a new banking system are agreed to. The sticking point is governments that refuse to follow these edicts and that have the power to block action.
In the face of this we have formulated the means to legally end their ability to obstruct. A number of agendas are in play which are to shove these regimes into the fabled dustbin of history! First up is a legal process that declares the heads of these governments to be in violation of those documents that legally oversee said regimes. In the case of the current US administration, the long list of criminal and related activities defies the beliefs and the very laws that govern it. It forms the basis of a series of court and related enforcement orders that are now ready to ease this illegal regime from power. Surrounding the actual ouster is a sequence of announcements which are to inform the public of the reasons for this move and of the consequences for those so removed. These announcements also address debt forgiveness, new banking laws, and other related actions.
These programs are to usher in an American interregnum that is committed to restoring the Constitution and preserving the fundamental liberties that are the very foundation of American democracy. In addition, this caretaker regime is committed, during its 6 to 8 months in office, to fostering peace, global prosperity, and cooperation among nations. These activities are to culminate in the announcement of our existence and the dates for a full restoration of America's electoral democracy. The new regime, elected fairly and freely by Americans, is to be the government that welcomes first contact, along with the last essential steps of your return to full consciousness. It is this government that is to readily embrace the use of many advanced antipollution devices, as well as the consciousness programs that can prepare you for the next phase of your divine destiny.
First contact remains our primary objective. This direct interaction with you will introduce you to the protocols and other daily procedures that are part of becoming fully conscious. Heaven is daily making the adjustments to your genetics, chakra system, and so forth, which are needed to move you toward full consciousness. Our task is at first to oversee these alterations and then to instruct you directly in what you need to do in order to live successfully as a new Being in this new environment. Hence we are to have a whole range of get-togethers in which you come to know us and develop the trust needed for completing what lies ahead of you. This process has distinct stages: The first is taking place right now as our medical teams look after you on inner realms. The next is direct, and begins once first contact is completed.
We are directing all these things most carefully and always with the full counsel of Heaven. Lord Surea issued a number of specific decrees whose purpose is to move you toward the destiny provided for you in the divine plan. This destiny includes your return to full consciousness and the restoration of the heavenly orders of physical Angels that are your true brethren. Each of you, deep down, feels the loss of losing this direct connection, a connection that fills you with Love and Joy, and an accompanying passion that each of you senses every day. You have a purpose here that cries out for inner fulfillment. This is why a deep relationship with nature brings you joy and why you feel the urge to go inside to discover the answers to all the whys and wherefores. This is the reason for your need to connect and rediscover your true relationship with Spirit.
Today, we continued our discussion. As you can see, the work toward manifesting your new reality proceeds on all fronts. We have come to deliver a first contact that is now not far off. The things that need to be done are nearly finished. We intend to see you all in the very near future! We now leave. Know, dear Ones, in your Heart of Hearts that the countless Supply and never-ending Prosperity of Heaven are Yours! So Be It! Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!)
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 04, 2008, 05:21:21 PM
Alan, I realize that there was no ill intent in posting the link.
But at the same time, if it can easily be perceived as racist by a black person, it ends up being racist...intent or not.
The best course of action would have been to acknowledge the faux pas...I hafta say you are just making the hole deeper.
Start bailing, you're taking on water. :)
I remember doing something similar once...now I never fail to remember never to make that mistake that again.
All the best.
Regards...
the perception of an individual does not make it racist. the same goes for getting offended. if something is said and you get offended, that's a Y.P. (your problem). let me make it clearer. someone didn't(can't) offend you, YOU took offense. ::)
can you imagine a world where we had to be constantly walking on eggshells so as not to offend anyone perceptions? ;)
That isn't a very good comparrison.
The posting of a link prominently featuring the 'n' work can hardly be compared to 'walking on egg shells'.
Time to move on...it seemed Alan and I were doing.
So bury that hatchet again...and don't let anybody see where you hide it.
Regards...
National Spelling Bee (http://www.youtube.com/v/G2nTbqbtGug)
Sulu: Captain, security is reporting that Z.Monkey has broken out of the brig.
Kirk: Damn, alert security on all decks...
Kirk: Mr. Spock can you track him by his subcutaneous transmitter?
Spock: I'll attempt to sir.
Uhura: Captain there is a unauthorized access to a computer terminal on deck 7 section 3...
Kirk: Mr. Sulu, dispatch a security team to deck 7 section 3...
Kirk: Uhura, can you take that terminal off the network?
Uhura: I'll try sir...
Howdy Y'all,
Here is an update from SaLuSa...
Blessed Be, gotta go...
SaLuSa 07-November-2008
Dear Ones, you head towards the final weeks of the direct control of the dark forces, and it is with mixed feelings. There is excitement and great expectations at the thought of a more moderate yet dynamic approach to the many problems that beset you. What was the unthinkable just a few years ago has lifted your spirits, and a new era commences. The dark have been ousted from their cosy and corrupt positions, and their influence has been diminished. It remains to appoint a new breed of representatives that are first and foremost committed to restoring your rights. It will involve a frustrating period of wait, but in that time you shall see your new and inspired President take you in the right direction.
Be assured that we are very much behind those of the Light, and now that you have signaled your desire for change through your democratic vote, we can greatly influence the outcome. These are indeed monumental times for many reasons, not least of all that you are going through a preparatory period that will finally and firmly place you on the path to Ascension. In the long run that is really all that matters, and in a manner of speaking it is not too important how you achieve it. What is certain is that you will get there and nothing will stop your progress from this point onwards. The outcome is assured and very soon you will be able to see the many different and essential changes coming to the fore.
We are just part of an active organization that comes under the direction of the White Brotherhood, committed to bringing Light to Earth. You have brought about the conditions that have made it possible, and as you lift up your vibrations so you attract considerably more Light. Your struggles through millennia of time have pulled you down, yet the Light has always been present and emerged through the darkness of ages past. Without a doubt it has been an extremely difficult period of learning, but it has taught you much about the subtle way in which the dark forces operate. They are found in the most unlikely places infiltrating your religious and educational organizations, and not until the truth is widely known will you be completely rid of them. The cleansing that is to take place is clearly not limited to just your physical needs.
What will become evident to you is that as your consciousness is lifted up, you will become more discerning and perceptive where other people are concerned. Intuitively you will sense the vibrations of those around you, and the energy carried in their words. This is all part of your growth as you become a more enlightened and aware Being. For too long you have accepted the word of those who lead you as the truth. However, you are now developing the ability to be much more discerning. You are surrounded by falsehoods and deliberate lies about your history as a Human Race. The many Churches that profess to hold the truth of your origin also confuse you. That will all change in time, as a very important part of our contact with you will be to re-educate you where your history is concerned.
We come not to destroy your beliefs but present you with another version that is supported by the Akashic Records. It will then be up to you to take from it what makes you feel comfortable and at ease. What will be certain is that you will find that there is the One God of complete and utter Love in which you have your being, and that God Is All That Is. There is no place for the many gods you have created with a multitude of attributes, including the human frailties of anger and revengeful acts. As so many of your teachers have pointed out, you were made in God’s image and not the other way around. God is not a physical Being with form such as you have, but is an all pervading immutable energy that contains All That Is. Jesus and other notable teachers are Sons of God, as you are also One with God and there is no escaping this fact.
You like us are bound to create a bodily vehicle that is suited to your vibratory level. The lower the vibrations the more heavy and solid it becomes, and conversely the higher they become your bodies take on the lighter and more ethereal form. As you work towards Ascension so your bodies will undergo changes, that will be appropriate to the new levels you are entering. In fact many of you are already noticing such changes. Some of them are resulting from your ability to draw the higher energies to yourself. There is also your increasing success to self heal through the power of thought. You are rapidly returning to those times when you had enormous powers of creation, but with it comes the responsibility to ensure they are not misused. The downfall of Man has been largely due to such reasons.
Many of you are in what you may call “No Mans Land†and you do not know which way to turn. Bide your time as it will not be too long before we are with you, and will be able to direct you onto the pathways of truth and understanding. Each of you will have the opportunity to emerge from the darkness, although we know some will be unprepared to give up their rigid belief systems. It will become easier to accept that you have been misled, as our presentation of the Truth will be accompanied by irrefutable proof. We have no desire to force it upon people, but of necessity your history must be truthfully rewritten.
Once we can get together you will enjoy the chance to work with us. We come to share our knowledge with you, and your professional people and engineers will enjoy the chance to use our advanced technologies. As you might expect we are so far ahead of you in computer technology, that you be in awe of the advancements that have been made. They live and have a mind of their own, and are so sophisticated compared to your level of understanding. They will be there for your comfort and carry out what you would call the menial tasks. You are undoubtedly ready for such a quantum leap forward, and you will apply such knowledge for the good of all Mankind. Hitherto your own advancements have been held back for the benefit of the privileged few, and often it has been for military purposes only.
I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and leave with blessings to you all. Our nearness to you grows each day and soon we shall walk shoulder to shoulder with you.
Thank you SaLuSa.
Mike Quinsey. michael.quinsey@mypostoffice.co.uk
Uhura: Captain, Z.Monkey managed to transmit a data burst before we could log out that terminal.
Kirk: Damn...
Kirk: Mr. Spock are you tracking his implant?
Spock: I have a fix on it but it is not moving...
Sulu: Sir, security is reporting to have found the transmitter, but not Z.Monkey...
Kirk: What?
Sulu: Apparantly, sir, Z.Monkey cut the transmitter out of himself.
Sulu: The transmitter was found in a puddle of blood.
Kirk: Damn... Double the security contingent...
Uhura: There is another unauthorized access to a terminal on deck 9 section 7...
Kirk: Divert security there....
Howdy Y'all,
Another update from Mark Kimmel
http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Marks_Corner/
Blessed Be... (sound of phasers firing)
Friday, October 31, 2008
Trivializing
The following communication was provided on 10/31/08. This is my 16th posting to Mark’s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order. Today, we welcome back Bren-Ton from the star system Andromeda.
Those who exist without the light of the Creator have shown themselves to mankind since they first came to this planet. In addition to being seen as gods, their dark sides were first reported in stories around campfires. When man began to draw, there were depictions of dark beings. With writings, sculptures, and paintings the dark ones took on more detail. Most recently, movies and television have portrayed those who live far from the Creator’s light. It is fitting that we should discuss this topic on this day, for it was created to honor those of the dark. Celebrating a holiday with costumes trivializes the influence of the dark energy. It is a technique used by the dark energy to hide its influence.
Some would say that they are only man’s imagination. But then what is imagination and from whence does it come? The imagination of man is two-fold: First there are real events and real persons, both of the light and of the dark, the results of first-hand contact, which are then enhanced by the creativity of an individual. Second is direct communication such as that in which we are engaged. Inventors, artists, and musicians all create based on direct communications. Both the first and second are the situation with those who depict dark personalities.
Now, back to those who exist without the light. They reside in the shadows of your planet even this day. Those humans in whom the light is not strong may encounter them, may fall beneath their spell. There is a certain inquisitiveness that has been placed in mankind that draws people to that which is dark. This tendency was placed in the DNA long ago by those who ruled this planet under the direction of the dark energy.
Keep in mind that all forms of darkness, whether embodied or not, feed off fear generated by other beings. The agents of the dark energy on this planet generate fear by showing themselves as hideous creatures who have given themselves completely to the dark, who exist without the Creator’s light.
Modern writing and movies depict all manner of creatures who are “evil,†who exist in the dark. They also depict humans who have turned to the dark as tormented creatures. I say to you that these creatures do exist; they are not just the product of imaginations. Even the appearance of ships from other star systems has purposely been twisted to be fearful. Those who radiate fear attract fear to themselves. This applies to everything from dark energy beings resident on this planet to the appearance of starships and beings from afar.
If you are not of the light, beings who are not of the light will draw themselves to you, or you to them. Stories of non-humans feeding on the flesh and blood of humans are true. There are those who relish this feeding because it feeds their dark energy. The worship of Satan is another example; it is far more prevalent than you might imagine. The celebration of evil on this day is another. Those attracted to dark movies and books are allowing themselves to experience fear that feeds the darkness.
Your planet has resided in the clutches of the dark energy for many thousands of years. The darkness wants to be recognized, wants to increase its fear within the population. War and other horrors that man imposes on man are ways in which the dark energy feeds on mankind. Anything that generates fear serves its purpose, anything.
Those of you who are of the light would do well to reinforce yourselves and not tamper with the darkness. That is not to say that you should avoid recognizing it for what it is. See the truth in what is said about it, but do not tempt yourself by dabbling with it. It is a very powerful force and in many ways it is very seductive. Stories about children who are abducted and human slaves have some truth to them. Stories of human misery such as hunger and concentration camps are true. All of these events are intended to overwhelm the general population with a sense of fear, and bred more fear through anger. A further intent is to create a sense of hopelessness, to make believe that the human condition is beyond help, to make people believe that this is the way things are, and that they will never get better.
As we help to transform Earth and her human inhabitants into a place of light, a place of beauty, shed the images of darkness, revel in the light. Walk upon the Earth without fear. Generate no fear for those around you. Let your light shine for all who would be attracted to it, give hope to all. Love those who are caught in the dark, but do not descend to their level of fear.
I am Bren-Ton of the star system Andromeda. Those of us who observe your planet are here to assist your transition.
That’s all for today folks. Remember to stay rooted in the light.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
Sulu: Security reporting that there are 2 dead red shirts where Z.Monkey was transmitting last...
Kirk: Damn...
Uhura: Sir I am getting a signal from the transporter room...
Kirk: What is it?
Uhura: Apparantly Z.Monkey just beamed down to the planet...
Sulu: Security reporting there are two more dead red shirts in the transporter room.
Kirk: Damn you Z.Monkey!
Howdy Y'all,
Man, it feels great to get off that stinky, 1967 technology ship. That thing needs a serious refit...
Another update from Mark Kimmel...
Blessed Be...
Wednesday, November 5, 2008
Congratulations
The following communication was provided on 11/5/08. This is my 17th posting to Mark’s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order. Today, we welcome back Bren-Ton from the star system Andromeda.
Barack Obama, his name sounds strange as the leader of a nation founded by white men. His appearance is not similar to that of the pictures of other presidents that hang in public building or are seen on the nation’s currency. Yes, the election of this man spells change, change at the very roots of your society.
The implications go way beyond just change in your political system. Many people had to put aside long-held prejudices to vote for this man. Many had to put aside long-held beliefs. It took the combined actions of many Earth humans to elect this man.
This act has implications for this galaxy, for this universe. We, who observe you from starships in orbit about your planet, now see that a significant number of you are ready to accept something dramatically new. This opens the door for that which we have awaited. By electing a man who appears somewhat different from you may be more inclined to accept beings from distant star systems who appear different, who act different. By electing this man to high office, you have signaled that you too are willing to change. By accepting the changes which this man will usher in, you will be more ready to accept civilizations from distant star systems that are different.
We have awaited a signal from you that you were ready for something different, that you were ready to throw off the shackles of your enslavement, an enslavement that you barely comprehend. We now have that signal from you. Thank you. Oh yes, we will begin appearing in your skies very soon now, watch for us.
Barack Obama received training on my star system, and others. He is aware of the larger picture. He knows full well that for which he volunteered. The scope of his job is that of planetary change agent. These are the reasons he is so firm in his commitment and so eloquent in his speech.
The road ahead will not be easy. By signaling change in the thinking of such a significant number of individuals, you have paved the road to the transformation of this planet. We will now proceed with that for which this vast armada of craft is assembled. In the weeks and months ahead, you will experience earth shifts as Earth rights herself to that which she was eons ago, before the darkness enveloped her. This will mean some hardships for you on the planet’s surface, but they will not persist for long, and we will help you survive the transition. We are here to help.
In the weeks and months ahead, you will see the destruction of your man-made institutions, the demise of your monetary system, and the collapse or near collapse of your government. Upon this ruin you will build a new civilization.
So it is not the man, Barack Obama, who is most important. It was the combined action of the many people of the United States signaling openness to walk down a new path. Congratulate yourselves.
You have taken the first steps toward a brilliant new way of being. Look for ways to help your brothers and sister on this planet who wish to see a new civilization. Look for ways to reach out to those who do not, but do not overly concern yourselves with pulling everyone into this new civilization. Many will choose to die rather than be a part of it. This is the beginning of a great bifurcation of your peoples. Understand it as that, and rejoice that now each person can see it for himself or herself, and make a clear decision as to which path they will pursue.
I am Bren-Ton of the star system Andromeda. Once again I remind you at those of us who observe your planet are here to assist your transition.
That’s all for today folks.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
Hey, Bren-Ton. Nice to hear from you. I'm glad you are following our little troubles here on Earth.
Forget about all that for now though. I just am wondering, when you say you are from the "star system Andromeda", do you mean the constellation of stars, in this galaxy, that we call "Andromeda", and if so, from which one of those stars? Or do you mean the great nebula in Andromeda, also known as the Andromeda galaxy, which is much farther away?
Just curious. Thanks in advance--
--TK
"By accepting the changes which this man will usher in, you will be more ready to accept civilizations from distant star systems that are different."
"Barack Obama received training on my star system, and others. He is aware of the larger picture. He knows full well that for which he volunteered. The scope of his job is that of planetary change agent. These are the reasons he is so firm in his commitment and so eloquent in his speech."
If that is all true and accurate, then that means Obama is only pretending to be a made man - and plans on turning his back on his backers, ala JFK.
And that his meeting with the Bilderburgers and his wife's involvement in the secretive cabal planning a north american union are just for show...like when he said he was going to hunt down and kill Bin Laden-someone even the FBI cannot link to 9/11.
We shall soon see what this particular channeler is made of...it shouldn't take too long for Obama to reveal his true nature.
Regards...
Quote from: z.monkey on November 07, 2008, 04:29:37 PM
Once we can get together you will enjoy the chance to work with us. We come to share our knowledge with you, and your professional people and engineers will enjoy the chance to use our advanced technologies. As you might expect we are so far ahead of you in computer technology, that you be in awe of the advancements that have been made. They live and have a mind of their own, and are so sophisticated compared to your level of understanding. They will be there for your comfort and carry out what you would call the menial tasks. You are undoubtedly ready for such a quantum leap forward, and you will apply such knowledge for the good of all Mankind. Hitherto your own advancements have been held back for the benefit of the privileged few, and often it has been for military purposes only.
I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and leave with blessings to you all. Our nearness to you grows each day and soon we shall walk shoulder to shoulder with you.
Thank you SaLuSa.
Mike Quinsey. michael.quinsey@mypostoffice.co.uk
"An Ixian machine? You defy the Jihad!" "There's a lesson in that, too. What do such machines really do? They increase the number of things we can do without thinking.
Things we do without thinking â€" there's the real danger." --God Emperor of Dune
Quote from: z.monkey on November 07, 2008, 05:03:46 PM
Howdy Y'all,
Man, it feels great to get off that stinky, 1967 technology ship. That thing needs a serious refit...
Another update from Mark Kimmel...
Blessed Be...
I see you are just a hypocrite z.monkey. "I'm trying to close the thread..." you said, yet you keep posting this nonsense that even you know it is just a nonsense.
What a pitiful bunch of peopel are all those who talk this rubbish and pretend it is real.
Get some life, get a pet and be responsible for something real if there's nothing else you can do in your empty lives. A cat or a dog, hell even a canary would do. It could give you a sense of purpose, a responsibility.
Anything but wasting your time on this mentally insane stuff.
I had several people wanting to buy the "corpse of that dead alien in my house"... For solar system's sake...
I INVENTED the shit, just like you people!!!!!
There are NO aliens nowhere.
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on November 08, 2008, 06:14:05 AM
I see you are just a hypocrite z.monkey. "I'm trying to close the thread..." you said, yet you keep posting this nonsense that even you know it is just a nonsense.
What a pitiful bunch of peopel are all those who talk this rubbish and pretend it is real.
Get some life, get a pet and be responsible for something real if there's nothing else you can do in your empty lives. A cat or a dog, hell even a canary would do. It could give you a sense of purpose, a responsibility.
Anything but wasting your time on this mentally insane stuff.
I had several people wanting to buy the "corpse of that dead alien in my house"... For solar system's sake...
I INVENTED the shit, just like you people!!!!!
There are NO aliens nowhere.
I think you are a very good example of a typically programed individual who only thinks inside his box and not outside. Your mind seems to be set to the opinion that we are the only beings in the universe, and the universe revolves around this planet.
Some people think this life we have is the end all be all existence and that getting your genetic code into the next generation is job 1. These people have not advanced beyond the first dinosaur who figured out it wasn't a good thing to eat it's own eggs. If you think you were born just to die and live on only in beings that won't even know you existed go ahead. But I would caution that preoccupation with your specific gentic bag of bones usually ends up in despair and disappointment when this glorious product of nature starts to slip slide away.
Blossom Goodchild
NOV 8.
Good morning to you. My my, how different this all is these days. I guess the main factor is that SO many people desire SO many answers from you about all sorts of things. Before you asked me to put the message out and before the ‘Big Day’ it just wasn’t that way for us. I would just sit and see what came through. And what came through was what came through. The ‘demand’ has changed things whether I like it or not.
YIPEE! Within that moment of writing I had a revelation. I am going back to ‘The way it used to beâ€. That’s how it worked for me … and you … without the pressure. You are either there or you are not. If you want to say something you will. If you don’t you won’t. That sits so well for me. And it is SO easy to get caught up in what other people want as opposed to what ‘we’ want. So … here we are … no questions, just back to the old days and some good old fashioned repartee!!
Dearest Lady. It is correct for us to say that the continual barrage of negativity that is aimed at you at this time is somewhat surprising to us. Is it not that these souls who do not appear to understand The Truth of your proposal live in fear of facing their immediate situation of themselves? There is balance in all things and yet now and then the sea saw is laden one end, more so than the other. We ask only that within your heart you keep the Trust that you have nurtured and allow us to assist when it seems that the end that is weighing you down is heavier than anticipated.
With respect to those who have an abundance of queries regarding future strategies and attempts of freedom to the spirit, may we offer these words to you? Within each one lies the answers to the questions you ask. This may not be understood and yet we say it is of Truth. If you did not search inside of the soul self for these answers then very little would be accomplished. For is it not known by you that we all have all knowledge within. Yes, there are certain equalities of answers from outer transcriptions, but ultimately they are words and how is one to know which of these words are valid and which are not?Yes, you know what we are to say if you have been following the direction in which we have been pointing. It is within THE HEART that the answers will tell each individual what is what. And yes, what is what for one may not be what it is for another. It depends greatly on where one is on their journey. Therefore, do not discredit any one thing, for although it may not be what is what for you, it may very well be the absolute Truth for another at that particular time.In the density of your earth plane you cannot know all answers from the perspective of understanding the workings of each and every universe and indeed where and how that universe may be situated and why. However, what we have been advising for each one is to retreat/return INTO/ INSIDE the self. Here there is understanding of all things. How many of you are prepared to look within? Many of you may say ‘oh yes… I am a meditator’. But many of you also believe that by sending out pennies to a certain cause that you are enlightened and doing a good job.
Sorry, you’ve lost me a bit there … or have I lost you ?
There are still so many it seems that reside on your planet that need to feed their ego. They NEED to be SEEN TO BE a do gooder. Outward appearances our imperative to many. When it is understood that inward appearance is the key, then and only then will there be a change in the global outward appearance. For what is born within can then become apparent without.
Yes, but …. Oh guys, do you know what … no matter how hard I try my head space is very much aware that many people are going to read this. .Many people are 'waiting' to read this … and you know what … I’m just not in the right space. Before … I would just leave it … so in order to keep True to myself that is what I must do. The flow is sort of there and sort of not. I think it’s more 'me' than anything else. Got out of bed on the wrong side and experiencing an extremely bad hair day. Hardly the right frame of mind to be connecting up with Light beings such as your good selves who probably don’t have any hair!!
We accept your position and agree it would be more poignant to resume at a more ‘energetic’ time. One thing we would like to close with
Oh please … anything …
Each individual soul is part of the whole, and this is becoming more widely known. Therefore , we would ask you to think about the possibility that …
Yes????? What ??? You surely can’t leave it like that! …. Oh NO! I know your next sentence. …
That is exactly where we choose to leave it !
All is as should be. Golden Rays . Golden Rays. Golden Rays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.(had doubts about posting this. Guess I"m feeling a little vulnerable It is as it is. I am as I am )
Man, there are some pretty strange people here. BTW, does that dead alien F/S come with any good recipes?
Kryon has also an interpretation of 2008-10-14 (towards the end â€" in English & en Español):
http://kryon.com/cartprodimages/download_Venezuela2_08.html
Quote from: shooter001 on November 08, 2008, 07:46:48 AM
I think you are a very good example of a typically programed individual who only thinks inside his box and not outside. Your mind seems to be set to the opinion that we are the only beings in the universe, and the universe revolves around this planet.
shooter, no one is asking for your twisted opinion. I was talking to my buddy monkey, so please refrain yourself from making comments that are out of this space, just like your life's troubles you so hapilly share here. please go back into your own little box when you are not privy to the subject others are talking about.
monkey, am I right or what?
beedees, my wife is a great cook. while the "alien" was my invention that had generated strangely and disturbingly lively response from the curious (don't they have mental institutions in their countries...?) her recipes are certainly real.
For example: Colombian rice for 4:
Cook one cup of rice in 2 cups of water with 1/2 onion cut in rings and added to the water. Add salt to your taste (min one spoon for rice to softens) and olive oil (or sunflower)
When water evaporates, reduce the heat and cook the rice until a crust is created at the bottom of the pot. Stirr very lightly and only two-three times to mix the oil taste, but not to mash the rice...
Cook the hairthin pasta separately and when rice is ready, mix them together.
Cut chicken breast into thin strips (the size of your kids fingers, but leave the fingers alone, ok?) and cook in water for 10 mins. Throw a bit of salt and red paprika on them, put them then into pan and fry with a little bit of oil to brown them up a little.
Mix with rice and pasta, make a fresh salad with letucce, tomato, spring onions and cucumbers, dress it up with red vinegar and sunflower oil.
And enoy.
If you like that, the next one will be the quick potato and cooked egg soup. Delicious and quick when you are hungry but just couldn't give a flick about preparing something "sofisticated".
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on November 08, 2008, 06:14:05 AM
Get some life, get a pet and be responsible for something real if there's nothing else you can do in your empty lives. A cat or a dog, hell even a canary would do. It could give you a sense of purpose, a responsibility.
Sorry Dude,
Truth is, I was really, really bored at work on Friday afternoon.
If you want me to quit posting this "nonsense" then get me some work...
I have been trying to make better use of my time, look at the Infinity Coil thread...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5144.120;topicseen
Latest schematic...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item181
OK, Mo Later...
Quote from: Dr. Tesla on November 08, 2008, 11:41:11 PMshooter, no one is asking for your twisted opinion.
Well, shooter001 started the thread â€" you're only guest anyways...
I do believe this is where one leaves the thread gracefully with only one foot in mouth.:)
Regards...
Hahahhahhahhaaaahahahaaa, sorry Dr.T, ju find me some work yet?
Here's another update from Mark Kimmel...
http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Marks_Corner/
Monday, November 10, 2008
Context
The following communication was provided on 11/10/08. This is my 18th posting to Mark’s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order. Today, we welcome back Justine from the star system Altair.
Today I wish to speak about context. There is more to causing change than merely voting for a new leader. Real change comes from the way in which individuals think and live. Furthermore, until an individual understands the context of his or her existence, and decides it is not suitable, they will not change it. It was only when the people of my planet saw that the context of their existence needed to be changed that we were able to change the way in which we thought and lived.
All people of Earth live in a cleverly contrived context: A reality that has been constructed for them, and a way of life in which they have been taught to believe. Most of it is a lie. The context in which you live is contrived so as to make you believe you are free to act while at the same time you are constrained by the context. Yes, you feel free to vote for a new leader, but that new leader is constrained within the context of an existing government, hemmed in by established rules.
Yes, the newly elected leader of the U.S., Barack Obama, will have to deal with the economy, but the economy is contrived. The U.S. economy has been built by layering debt on top of debt. It is designed to keep ordinary people enslaved, while allowing a few to prosper. Most people never get out of debt. Only a privileged few live out their retirement in a state of bliss. This debt-based monetary system has been spread throughout the world. Developing countries, innocent of doing anything other than having natural resources and cheap labor have fallen under the burden of debt created by the U.S. This is one aspect of your context that must be changed. It will only be changed, by changing energy, the individual energies of people.
Those of you living on Earth must come to recognize that you are the ones creating this context. Yes by your beliefs you have enslaved yourselves within it. Those of you alive at this moment inherited it. The dark energy and its agents cleverly worked on it for thousands of years to bring it to a place where it is today.
It is reinforced at every turn. Your history is a lie as it supports the reality of the context. Your television drums in the conventional context. Your books, your newspapers, your schools, your corporations, your sources of food, and housing all contribute to the conventional. You must learn to look beyond this conventional context, to see it as you go about your daily lives.
This may seem like a daunting task, and it is. If you are awake, you have experienced how hard it is to live in a situation where you are constantly assailed by the conventional. It is a constant struggle to remind yourself that it is not real, that those who are supporting it are unconsciously telling lies. This is particularly difficult when you are not certain as to what to believe or not believe. It is much more than “living in the world but not of it,†as your bible says. It is recognizing that you are surrounded by a contrived context of your own making.
In America today, those who have been marginalized by the dominant white society have a greater chance of seeing the conventional context for what it is than the average white person. They have had the advantage of seeing it from outside. They have not been allowed to participate in the system, so they recognize it for what it is. I am speaking here of American Indians, African Americans, and other minorities. Also those of other countries are more likely to recognize the American system for what it is. Yes, the American system promises material abundance, but at what price? The American system requires one to put aside ones deepest held beliefs about the basic goodness of all people and to see others as them versus us, to compete with them rather than cooperate. It is in this compromising of basic beliefs that the degrading into slavery happens.
So what is the solution? Individual energies support the dominant paradigm. The combined energies of millions of American support this context. Those who have little material wealth, support it in the hope they might acquire material wealth. Those who have material wealth support it in order to keep what they have. The larger picture is largely ignored.
So a reorientation of individual energies is what is required. This can only be done one at a time. First there must be some sort of disillusionment with that which is. After that begins a process as follows: A seeking for something better. Defining what is better. An intention to create that which is better. A free-will decision to cling to that which is better. Then the determination to pursue the new at whatever cost is entailed, including the fact that your neighbor or family member is opposed to your new way of seeing and behaving.
When this happens, the simple act of casting a vote can be turned into real change. When enough people make individual decisions for change, it reorganizes the energy of a planet. Normally this is a gradual process, however these are not normal times. The convergence of so factors makes this an extraordinary time. We, who are here to assist, plan to speed up this process by making ourselves known.
That will happen in the near future. It will shatter the conventional context for most people. After that it will be up to everyone to reconstruct a new way of seeing and believing. This is where you, and others like you who understand, come in. Continue to give insights into a beautiful and loving new civilization. We are hopeful that enough people will wake up to this possibility to create real energetic change. When this happens a shift will take place. Throwing off the current context and adopting a new one is likely to engender fear of the unknown in many people. Help them to trust in a beautiful and loving way of being.
The stage is set; the players are assembled. All is in readiness for the great event. We will appear soon. Help to prepare the attitude of the other actors to openness and acceptance of our good will.
I am Justine from the planet Supsten of the star system Altair. I give all of you our blessings on your work.
Thank you, Justine. That's it for today folks.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
Hi Justine, nice to hear from you.
The neighborhood around Altair must be pretty interesting. We think we know a little bit about it, since it's pretty close by ( less than 17 ly) and one of the brightest stars in our sky (13th brightest, apparent magnitude 0.77).
Here's some other stuff we think we know about Altair:
"A recent search for faint companions using the Hubble Space Telescope has found no supporting evidence for a large Jupiter or brown dwarf sized object (Schroeder et al, 2000). On the other hand, the failure to find large substellar objects like brown dwarfs or a Jupiter- or Saturn-class planet in a "torch" orbit (closer than the Mercury to Sun distance) around Altair -- with even the highly effective radial-velocity methods of Geoff Marcy and Paul Butler -- bodes well for the possibility of Earth-type terrestrial planets around this star.
The distance from Altair where an Earth-type planet would be "comfortable" with liquid water is centered around 3.4 AUs -- at the outer reaches of the Main Asteroid Belt's orbital distance in the Solar System. At that distance from the star, such a planet would have an orbital period of about 4.4 Earth years. If there is life on any Earth-type planet orbiting youthful Altair, it is likely to be primitive single-cell, anaerobic (non-oxygen producing) bacteria under constant bombardment by meteorites and comets as Earth was for the first billion years. Since there is unlikely to be free oxygen in the atmosphere of such a planet, it probably would not have an ozone layer (O3) although Altair puts out a lot more hard radiation (especially ultraviolet) than Sol. "
Sounds rather uncomfortable for puny Earthlings, but I'll bet it's nice and cozy for you, Justine.
Anyway, I'd like to see some photos of your neighborhood, when you've got a chance. Especially a close-up of Altair itself, since it is rotating so fast it's swollen around the equator (sort of like me...) so much that we can see its bulge from here.
Kisses from Earth--
--TK
I want pictures of the ship!
Why do we assume that intelligence has to have water to think? Or carbon or any other emwave assembly we are familiar with? Maybe they are an assembly of the stuff above gamma or below elf. Maybe they are plasma beings with billions of neuclei surrounded by electron cloud fields instead of our army of cells that dont differ much at all from an ant colony. Humans are so vain. Anything that is as smart as us mutated monkeys has to drink water to think. Jeesh.
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 10, 2008, 05:03:30 PM
I do believe this is where one leaves the thread gracefully with only one foot in mouth.:)
Regards...
One down, ten to go...
monkey, I did see that thread earlier and almost commented on apparent knowledge you displayed in the schematic. If it were from anyone else, it would be just a nice schematic, but I admit, I didn't (and still don't) believe you would be capable of drawing that. If you did, then that is one nice work.
Hopefully you could concentrate more your energy on something like that and maybe one day make something that works, eve if it is not overunity.
I have a few friends engineers and I run many of ideas appearing here by them. They, contrary to the empty-headed "Iknowitall" ignorants who defend their ignorance by statements like : "maybe you should start thinking outside of the box", usually provide a well informed explanation why these ideas do or don't work.
Naturally, we do not but laugh at the "aliens" coming to share some "lovin'" with some mentally deranged individuals around here. I can only hope there will be no offspring from such unions...
Work you can forget 'coz who in a well ballanced world needs a member of the team seeing and hearing "aliens"? Surely even you would agree. At work you need someone who can concentrate and contribute construcitvely to the task at hand.
Now, iz evryone ready for another recipe?
I have one for every centimetre of that fake 3000 kilometres "ship" full of stupid little yellow and blue amebas from Andronicus, or there abouts.
This is going to be one long and boring winter, I can see that already...
I think I have found a video of the alien Dr tesla had in his fridge. ;D
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LtwVfq5CuBs
That alien actually looks like the rael deal...there appears to be too much asymmetry for a fake.
Is that from the inventor John Hutchison...or just someone with the same name ?
The voice sounds the same also.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 11, 2008, 02:14:35 PM
That alien actually looks like the rael deal...there appears to be too much asymmetry for a fake.
Is that from the inventor John Hutchison...or just someone with the same name ?
The voice sounds the same also.
Regards...
It looks like it is him. On his profile he lists his myspace website www.myspace.com/johnkhutchison.
More curious is...how did the alien stiff get in Dr T's fridge ?
Regards...
I put it there...
Dr. Tesla has probably turned it into Zeta chops with a side of Colombian rice by now.
The question is did he serve it with chimichuri sauce or mushroom gravy?
I probably would have made Zeta enchiladas with red chile gravy...
Howdy Y'all,
New uploads, and no they are NOT channeled. I really didn't know where to post these, so I figured that this thread has a good readership, so here they are...
Viktor Schauberger, "The Fertile Earth"
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item184
Tom Bearden, "Scalar Electromagnetic Weapons and their Terrorist Use"
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item185
Michio Kaku, "Physics of the Impossible"
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item169
Charles W. Cosimano, "Elementary Psionics Radionics 101"
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item170
Ruggero Moretto, "Advanced Course of Radionics and Radiesthesia"
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item171
Psionic Resources, A conglomeration of psionic devices
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item172
Charles Cosimano, "Psionic Warfare"
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item173
Dr. Steven E. Jones Physicist and Archaeometrist, "Why, indeed, did the WTC buildings completely collapse?"
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item174
Y'all have fun with that now, ya hear?
That is a great Schauberger link Z...thanx mutchly.
Regards...
Howdy Y'all,
Sirian Update from Sheldan Nidle...
http://www.paoweb.com/sn111108.htm
Selamat Balik! We come again to talk about what is happening on your world and about first contact. The events of the day continue their forward move. We are watching all things very carefully. Meanwhile, the chaos engulfing your world continues to grow. Patience is required here. Heaven remains strongly committed to your ascension into fully conscious Beings of Light. This objective drives us all and gives us a great determination to see all this through to its inevitable conclusion. To this end, Heaven is now working on clearing out much of the past karma that still affects you. It is important that the events of your former lives cease to prevent you moving forward as swiftly in your awakening as is wanted by Heaven. To do this, a number of chakra cleanings are now underway, opening up many blocked pathways to your over 200 minor chakras and ensuring that the newer chakras manifest with a minimum of physical, mental, and emotional difficulties. These cleansings are to be completed just after the start of the new Gregorian year.
This momentum toward full consciousness makes it impossible for the dark cabal to continue on much longer. As we have often mentioned, there is a divine timetable at work here. This sacred schedule puts us very close to a mass landing on your shores. We gathered here in large numbers for one purpose only: first contact. There are no "laws of non-interference" here. Since the days of ancient Lemuria we have watched over you and "interfered" freely and at will when needed. Your former overlords, the Anunnaki, are yet another example of this. Heaven quarantined your world only in order to allow you to absorb the dark lessons that you need to carry with you into the Light. Now these lessons have been well imprinted, and the time arrives for the next phase. It is time for a transition to the Light and for a new kind of knowledge to be embarked upon. This knowledge is to take you out of your current amnesia and lead you back to who you really are. This operation is one of the prime reasons behind first contact.
Another reason for first contact is the awakening of Mother Earth. Like you, your planet needs to dramatically change the way she uses the spiritual energy she receives daily from the Sun and the galactic core. This energy is mostly deflected into space or used to maintain the various magnetic and gravitational fields holding your solar system together. These fields are now changing and your scientists notice this. They are puzzled by the many changes that are happening, seemingly all at once. Indeed, many of them see these alterations as the start of something quite out of the norm, while others consider the phenomenon as a whole to be only a passing phase of anomalous and unexplainable activity. From our perspective, this amount of "anomaly" is a sure sign of just how committed Heaven is to a rapid transition to a new reality. Everywhere, your solar system is shifting toward full consciousness, further highlighting the urgency for your planet to shift also into something quite different from what you are used to. As we watch and learn much about this process, we also prepare to greet you with open arms.
First contact is ever a work in progress: Each day brings forth new evidence of the change manifesting around you. This massive change is in fact the transitional adjustments prior to first contact. Not all events lead in this direction, but enough of a grand pattern is emerging that confirms a definite momentum toward this goal. Our operatives among you and within government corroborate this. You are changing at a rapid pace from one set of beliefs to another. As these new concepts come on line in your reality they trigger change, paving the way for the next set of new perceptions. As one set takes root, the next begins to emerge within your collective consciousness. This chain-reaction moves you inescapably to the very brink of immense change. This is something many of you now sense, to the extent that even those in charge of your world are actually beginning to acknowledge it publicly.
As the need for change grows, and your ability to manifest it in your heart and mind develops, so the new reality begins to appear before you. This new reality is more than a shift in grid pattern or a frequency of consciousness; it is the birth of something different. You sense it within yourselves, but mostly lack the leisure required identifying it. Nevertheless, you make a stab at it, but fail to include all its many aspects. This creates a period of confusion as to what is truly afoot, and this is where you are now. The upcoming phase will bring a series of dramatic events that will help you in this process. Here, the "economic meltdown" is not to be included, as it is merely another staged event by the illuminoids to scare you into doing what they wish. In any event, this manufactured chaos is at an end. What we are describing is the inner changes, the strange dreams and unfamiliar aches that are moving you out of this reality and into the next.
This coming reality is one we are more familiar with. It is a world based upon a profound equality for all souls, in which you cast off limitation and understand completely how the natural abundance within all realities supports and uplifts you. Want is an unnatural concept that has been ingrained into you to control you. This artificial lack of resources is something we daily observe with disbelief. Everywhere the avarice of the wealthy few holds sway over the will of the many. This is done by making you believe that the few are special, and therefore privileged. This is, of course, poppycock! You are, all of you, equally "privileged"! You all possess the same grand soul given to you by a most Loving Creator! It therefore follows that you all have equal right and access to the bountiful resources provided for you by this reality. Your rising consciousness can ensure this.
The coming new reality is to be filled with abundance! Moreover, you have the ability to access it at will. Your present world, in retrospect, will seem like an all-absorbing, vivid phantasmagoria of lives lived in sadness, misfortune, and peril. And yet the wisdom learned there is to serve you well: You are indeed a special lot, who have passed through rigors that can now be drawn upon when needed. For example, you can be appointed to explore as-yet unchartered realms of physicality, where you can use your special powers of discernment to ascertain the truth of any given realm. This is a divine gift that reveals itself to you only after much seemingly endless travail. This hard-earned quality is to permit you to carry out your destiny and help unfold the divine plan throughout the whole of physicality.
Thus, a most remarkable future awaits you. We would ask you to look at this whole panorama and see the present time as a strange but exhilarating endgame. You are on a path that is leading you rapidly to first contact and full consciousness. The new reality awaiting you is preparing to sweep you up into its loving embrace, which means that the one you presently reside in is about to transform in the very near future. On top of all this is the steadily growing intimation of a mass first contact. All these factors point to a transition that is to flip this reality literally at a moment's notice, and in anticipation of which we keep our fleet at the ready. So be patient, and prepare well for all that is about to happen. Remember, Together, We are Victorious!
Today, we have gone over some of the things that make this time in your history so very, very special. One of these elements is our arrival in great numbers on your shores! And this special moment is getting close. We anticipate a most lovely reunion with you! We now leave. Know, dear Ones, in your Heart of Hearts that the countless Supply and never-ending Prosperity of Heaven are Yours! So Be It! Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!)
Howdy Y'all,
Update from Mark Kimmel...
http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Marks_Corner/
Wednesday, November 12, 2008
Light Within All
The following communication was provided on 11/12/08. This is my 19th posting to Mark’s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order. Today, we welcome back both Justine from Altair and Bren-Ton from Andromeda.
Despite the best efforts of the darkness to overwhelm Earth and her peoples, it and its allies on your planet have been unable to accomplish this feat. This is due to the spark of the Creator that resides in each conscious being. That spark of light is enough, in most cases, to enable that creature to cling to that which is inherently good and noble. Few are totally depraved, unless drugs or chemicals overwhelm them, or their minds become deranged. Almost everyone clings to the notion that what they are doing is in their own best interests, and in many cases the best interest of others. Some see the majority as misguided and in need of reigning in, but it is deemed to be for everyone’s good by those who would control all. So you see the dark energy can twist the reasoning of the controllers, but it cannot, in most cases, completely subvert all.
This has played itself out in successive societies since the dark energy enveloped Earth and installed its allies on this planet. Despite all that has been done to her, Earth has retained the spark of the Creators love and light. Earth never completely bowed to the dark energy; she resisted in many ways, always providing sustenance and light to her many inhabitants.
As for Earth’s human inhabitants, they too never completely bowed to the will of those who would control them. In their hearts they kept the light alive, always believing that there was some good in all, never completely surrendering their souls to the control of others, and knowing it would end someday.
We are of course generalizing here about the entire human population. There have been instances where the darkness had such a complete hold over a population that that the population succumbed to its reign. But even these instances did not last forever. After the death of those in control, the spark once again emerged and the light directed people to build anew, to seek a better way to live. Thus the great dynasties of China, of Rome, of Atlantis, and others throughout history flourished for a time, but ultimately decayed because they were not built on the good of all people.
It is so in the U.S. at this time. In the beginning the country was founded on what was to be a better way to live. Yes, wealthy white men did it, however they too sought a better way for all to live. America evolved toward a beacon of freedom and openness. But the dark energy sought to capture this bright spot on the globe, so it instituted control of the financial system, control of the government, the creation of corporations and other institutions, and the subjugation of the common man in various subtle and secretive ways. These institutions, initially created by the actions of men for good, were twisted by acts of men who had sold out to greed and fear. In this way the system was perverted to the ends of darkness.
Yes there have been bloody confrontations between those who believe one way and those who believe otherwise. However the depictions in your movies and in your history books exaggerate the reality of these. In every case there were those who operated from the light, who inspired others to do things in the best interests of all. In every case some people recognized the Creators light within and set out to manifest it.
So you see the light resides even in the darkest of circumstances. The dark energy has been unable to squash it. Ordinary people have ultimately arisen to seek their common benefit.
The situation today on your planet is that the dark chains are being broken by the actions of common women and men. Do not believe everything you read in the media about the actions in this country and in others. It is being deliberately distorted to prolong the reign of capitalism and those who control it in the name of wealth and power.
We, who watch from orbit, see the truth in the uprising of peoples around your planet. There is a ground swell of those seeking that which is right, true, and based on the common good. Yes, we will wipe out the last vestiges of the dark energy when we remove its off-planet allies. This will happen soon. Then the playing field will be level and the innate goodness of people will emerge to construct a new civilization based on truth and love. All of this will occur in concert with a revitalized Earth.
Our brothers and sisters of Earth, in the coming days and weeks remember you are of the light. You have the ability to remake yourselves and your civilization. Take this opportunity to live in the light. Your belief systems will be sorely challenged. Be open to new ways of seeing and believing.
I am Justine from the star system Altair and I am Bren-Ton from Andromeda.
Thank you, Justine and Bren-Ton. That's it for today folks.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
Howdy Y'all,
More uploads...
Paul Brown's SEG replication notes. I mistakenly annotated the download citing that these were John Searle's notes, they are not. These notes are from Paul Brown's replication in 1984...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item186
Motor diagrams and lab notes from John Bedini and Ron Cole on various motors...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item187
"Advanced Aerospace Propulsion" by David B. Sereda
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item188
"Final Secret of Free Energy" by Tom Bearden
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item189
Mo Hotta, Mo Betta...
Howdy Y'all,
Update from Mark Kimmel...
http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Marks_Corner/
TGIF
Friday, November 14, 2008
Leadership
The following communication was provided on 11/13/08 and on 11/14/08. This is my 20th posting to Mark’s Corner. I strongly suggest you read the earlier postings first, preferably in chronological order. Also, after you read my other writings, you may gain a greater appreciation for the material presented on these pages. Today we welcome back Justine from the star system Altair.
The problem with human organization as currently structured on this planet is that they remove and impersonalize those at the top from those at the bottom. This allows those at the top to believe that they are somehow better then those at the bottom. Once this begins, then the power and wealth factor kicks in and those with money believe they are better than those without it.
This scheme was put into place by the dark energy and its agents. They descended onto this planet with superior technology and powers. They looked upon themselves as better than the humans of this planet, and they required the indigenous people to worship them as gods.
Your modern organizations retain these characteristics. As one ascends in the ranks one loses touch with that which ordinary workers are doing. Those that enter the organization without having worked among the majority of workers, never make that connection. Soon it becomes a mark of elite that they do not get their hands dirty with the work of ordinary people. Soon they begin to consider themselves above all. In their elevated lifestyles they compete only with each other and distance themselves ever more from the common woman and man.
Those who are slightly lower on the pyramid envision themselves climbing to the summit of power and wealth. They align themselves with those at the top so that they too might have what those at the top have. Then they too lose touch with their brothers and sisters in the lower ranks.
On my planet Supsten, it was a tremendous advancement in civilization when we recognized that every human was of equal worth. We then began to honor each regardless of their station in life, age, sex, etc., regardless of the “job†they were doing, as important and worthy of our love and full recognition. Then we extended this to the issue of money and it became apparent that money should be made available to all in equal measure and no one should be accorded more regardless of how they contributed to the whole because each was essential to the functioning of the whole.
This then brings us to the question of leadership. Leaders are simply those who have a particular gift of insight into the bigger picture, are willing and able to speak up, and are willing to work in this way. Leaders are no more or less important than anyone else; they simply have a talent that they are using. On my planet we do not reward leaders any different monetarily than we do someone who is cleaning the streets. The street sweeper is providing a necessary service, is a valued member of the community, and is a brother or sister just like anyone else.
Because of this attitude we have many people who find joy working in fields to harvest food, and are satisfied sweeping streets. We have others who are happy to maintain our libraries or head up our institutions. Individuals are recognized for their contributions in many ways, but not monetarily. Thus everyone may have a comfortable dwelling, everyone has sufficient food and clothing. Luxury items such as a boat are shared among many people, so that a single family does not hoard items like these.
I know this sounds like a radical departure from that which you have today on your world. Keep in mind that the agents of the dark energy established the whole pyramid scheme of gods and wealth. It was a way to get people to compete, to see each other as different and separate. It is an artificial scheme, not part of the Creators plan for honoring all as important. Once you reopen your ability to communicate telepathically, this way of life will become quite natural.
Once humans see each as important, they will then see the various manifestation of Earth as important, and honor each aspect of her beauty and functionality. Each of her creatures will likewise be honored for its role in supporting the whole.
Yes, this sounds utopian to your ears. Yes it is a long way away from where you are today. However, some of you reading this message are to be the leaders of the new Earth. How better to begin than by honoring all your fellow humans as beautiful, worthy, and unique individuals. Money can be a medium of exchange, not something to be accumulated and used to triumph over your fellow man.
I am Justine of the Altair star system. May we all move forward to create a brilliant new civilization for Earth.
Thank you, Justine.
In Truth, Love and Joy,
Mark
Hi Justine and Bren-Ton
How's it going?
I can't help but notice that you haven't replied to any of my questions. I guess you are just too busy. After all, the information you are giving us has been in the various esoteric and transcendental literatures here on Earth for many thousands of years, so I imagine you are spending a lot of time going through old documents and records to find this stuff.
I just wonder, can you tell us something new, something that we don't know already through normal means like logic and experience and the counsel of truly wise Earthlings (yes, there are one or two left, although they may be somewhat hard for you to find...)??
Anyway, I'm glad you are enjoying your stay in orbit. Why don't you come down for tea some Sunday? I realize that our Earth must seem a cold, dark and gloomy planet to enlightened beings from Altair (an A-class near-white-dwarf) and Andromeda (an entire galaxy far, far away), but there are some nice spots.
Hope to see you soon--
Your friend--
TK
@Tinsel
I know. How bad does it have to get before some mass awakening occurs. Not too much time to become enlightened when your scouring the forest for acorns to feed your children. I know there is a state of mind where you take control of your reality but most times you end up with men in little white coats making sure you come back to duality reality. ;D Get it done or get the fuck out of here is getting to be my feeling on this whole alien deal.
Sparks, yeah I am getting impatient as well, I've been building stuff to keep my mind off the GF...
TinselKoala, I'll forward your question to Justin'e and Bren-Ton...
Keep on MEG'n
Kirk: What do you think of MY new ship?
Sulu (Thinking to himself): You pompous ass! Its not your ship, its everybody's ship!
Sulu (aloud): Very nice sir...
Sulu: Sir, look at this ship...
Kirk: Cool!
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/space/11/14/shuttle.endeavor/index.html#cnnSTCVideo
damn i missed them :(
willyalook at all that fuel burning? :P :P
maybe one of us can work out how to get some HHO to make antigravity for them.
jeanna
The Space Shuttles main engine burns a mixture of liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen. The result of the combination produces a water vapor trail behind the space shuttle. Basically the shuttle is HHO powered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Main_Engine
The booster rockets are a different story. I thought that the propellant was silver nitrate but when I looked it up this article say that it is aluminum powder and iron oxide for the fuel and ammonium perchlorate is the oxidizer. NASA may have changed the ingredients for the boosters. But, still the mixture is not as happy as the main engine's diet...
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/technology/sts-newsref/srb.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Solid_Rocket_Booster
Look at this interesting cloud formation. This was over my house Friday night. While this is not my picture, I got to see this in real time. All I could do was stand there dumbfounded, duh...
Looks kind of like a chemtrail grid pattern Z...unless it just appears that way in the pic.
Regards...
Nasa may be leaning towards plasma thruster engines. They take xenon ionize it give it a magnetic lattice to jump away from and away they go. Magnetically confined positive ions put out one hell of a positive electrostatic field. Electrons feel the love and are accelerated towards this field. The confining magnetic field makes damn sure the electrons don't get to the ion core but are shuttled around it and bombard a metal collector. The secondary emission from the collector is very useable energy. Depending on the cathodic ray energy or acceleration of the electrons along the plasma sheath the corresponding collision with the collector mass can result in all sorts of high energy particles and ionizing radiations. Glow in the dark kinda shit. ;D Someone is finally finding out you don't have to burn stuff to make things go fast.
By the way seems like space with all it's Birkeland currents and the Sun sitting there at 600million volts negatively charged would be a nice draw for anything positively charged like the little ion field described above.
Scotty to captain: We're running low on dilithium crystal mass!
Kirk to Scotty: I'm busy with new crewoman orientation at the time asshole! We've been down this road before. Free beer down at the out of this world bar for everyone. Ionize the damn ammonia Scotty. And lay off the herb you're starting to forget way too much lately. Over and up errrrr out!
Scotty to captain: We're running low on dilithium crystal mass!
Kirk to Scotty: I'm busy with new crewoman orientation at the time asshole! We've been down this road before. Free beer down at the out of this world bar for everyone. Ionize the damn ammonia Scotty. And lay off the herb you're starting to forget way too much lately. Over and up errrrr out!
Scotty: But captain we won't be able to initiate warp drive on just ammonia crystals.
Kirk: And why in the Universe would we want to intitiate warp drive mr. engineer with 1/2 a brain left? Yowoman Desiree are you in any hurry to initiate warp drive at this time?
Yowoman Desiree: Hell no Kinky Kirk I was planning on all night before initiation.
Kirk: Why would we leave orbit around planet NICEASSHERE2 it is the greatest discovery this starship has made since 69. Listen Stoner next time bother Spock with this kinda stuff, he's most times playing solitare chess or some other stupid shit. Next transmission from you I get it's 10days in the brig for your ass. You feeling me doper?
Scotty: Aye captain. Fer sure dude, fer sure.
Quote from: dean_mcgowan on November 15, 2008, 08:21:32 AM
damn i missed them :(
I think everyone did.
But, for electronic research, pertaining to the U.S.S. Eldridge, what they may have done
(?!?!) was take a well-studied principle of degaussing a steel ship and integrating that with a Tesla coil, somehow. I may stress:
SOMEHOW.There are more than several patents available on degaussing ships:
This one has a conspicuous antenna-like-looking affair:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=satOAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=transformer+magnetic+amplifier+degaussing&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=0&as_miny_ap=&as_maxm_ap=0&as_maxy_ap=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&num=100&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q=transformer%20magnetic%20amplifier%20degaussing&f=false
This one uses a Caduceus coil:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=6k1OAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=coil+magnetic+degaussing+ship&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=0&as_miny_ap=&as_maxm_ap=0&as_maxy_ap=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&num=100&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q=coil%20magnetic%20degaussing%20ship&f=false
There are others, of course.
This might be one for the conspiracy pundits.
And, nothing unusual occurred to me on Oct 14, 2008. As I said, I think everyone missed "them".
--Lee
Quote from: z.monkey on November 16, 2008, 07:54:46 AM
The Space Shuttles main engine burns a mixture of liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen. The result of the combination produces a water vapor trail behind the space shuttle. Basically the shuttle is HHO powered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Main_Engine
The booster rockets are a different story. I thought that the propellant was silver nitrate but when I looked it up this article say that it is aluminum powder and iron oxide for the fuel and ammonium perchlorate is the oxidizer. NASA may have changed the ingredients for the boosters. But, still the mixture is not as happy as the main engine's diet...
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/technology/sts-newsref/srb.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Solid_Rocket_Booster
Look at this interesting cloud formation. This was over my house Friday night. While this is not my picture, I got to see this in real time. All I could do was stand there dumbfounded, duh...
That is really an amazing photo and I doubt that is natural. People are saying that it contains aluminum and barium. Both will damage your brain and thyroid but holding your breath for hours until it passes will too. I hope you stay inside if you see something like that again! Scarey
LOL! Talk about legendary thread...
The picture is real, reported on local news...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 16, 2008, 08:01:05 AM
Looks kind of like a chemtrail grid pattern Z...unless it just appears that way in the pic.
Regards...
...or lenticular clouds. ask a glider pilot.
http://www.prh.noaa.gov/hnl/pages/events/lenticular/lenticular.php