Hello. I want to introduce a device capable of generating unlimited energy, cleaner and safer. It operates under the principle of Arquimedes push for flotation. Only with air and water, without consumption of either. A detailed description, along with drawings and an animation may see in:
http://motiveandpneumaticenergyproducer.blogspot.com/
I am open to the general public, so that it can be used and modified freely, since it declared unpatentable. Therefore, I need a good spread of it to prevent anyone from taking him on an exclusive basis.
Thank you very much and I hope her comments,
Froilan Salaya
I liked the drawings a lot :)
So is it all on papers or is there any working model ?
lets see a real life working model...
I am working to finish the first prototype in a tank of about 4 meters high. I hope to finish it before year's end, in December 2008.
I'm adding to the blog of this prototype documents as they progress.
Sorry for my English. I do not speak very well.
Greetings,
The problem with all the designs similar to this is solving the problem of leaks. The unit will continue to leak water until the water is gone, then you will need to fill it again. How do you plan to seal the unit around the area where air is being let into the tank?
If you have a working unit then please post a video. My guess (and I hope I am wrong) is that you do not have a working unit and it is just in the drawing-concept stage.
"Energyfree" I'm building a full-scale model.
It's really advanced and I look forward to test the prototype by the end of the year.
At this moment we are in the construction phase of the "cradle".
Greetings,
"ResinRat2" Each of the containers carries a stamp. This, is shaped like a "V" as used in the hydraulic cylinders of "double effect". Each of these stamps touch with the walls of a "cradle" (semicilindro) isolating the water tank.
In addition I think change the viscosity of water with chemical additives (such as polyvinyl alcohol) to reduce losses and reduce friction.
As I said, I'm building the prototype.
But desire compartitlo with you in order to gain more points.
I hope soon to have the right to operate video equipment.
I will climb, in a short time, a new animation on the bottom of the team.
Greetings,
Energiasinfin;
One nice thing, if you get the water version working. Try thinking about it using
the liquid metal mercury instead. Mercury is 13 times heavier than water - steel
floats in it. 1atmospheric head = 30 inches mercury = 33 feet water
The energy output for a relatively compact machine then becomes significant, but there
are also significant experimental problems, i.e. don't try this at home. It's a nice mental
experiment though.
:S:MarkSCoffman
You need to find a way to get the air to the bottom of the tank without using more energy then you get back.
Try this experiment:
Take a piece of hose and place it in the bottom of a pail of water, then try blowing into the hose.
You will notice that the deeper in the water you place the hose the harder it is to blow.
This is what many people don't realize when looking at this type of design.
The hose will fill with water up to about the same height as the water in the pale and then be very hard to blow out.
Now if you use a very thin hose it will take less pressure to blow but it will take much longer.
Then you are still using the same amount of energy but you just spread it out over a longer time period.
This is similar to charging a capacitor.
When you place a capacitor across a battery is acts as almost a dead short.
Then as more charge gets into the capacitor the current drain goes down.
Some have thought that a capacitor doesn't use power to charge and have designed similar devices to the water wheel here.
They think you can charge a capacitor for free and then discharge it into a circuit to run it.
I wanted to mention that because I have seen drawings of capacitors that do just that and the water tank is a good object lesson.
MarkSCoffman
It's a good idea to use liquid heavier than water. We must take into account the law of Boyle on the compressibility of gases that rise in the drawers.
Greetings,
"AbbaRue"
It is true that the pressure increases with the depth or the height of the column of fluid. But the air pressure in the atmosphere is equal to 1 atm. That's why, which invested in a glass water does not fill the liquid. This team works in his right side, as a succession of "diving bells."
In addition, the hydraulic pressure input is equal to the output. The imbalance is given by the thrust of the column on the right side.
Again, sorry for my English.
Greetings,
Quote from: Energiasinfin on August 29, 2008, 02:03:36 PM
Hello. I want to introduce a device capable of generating unlimited energy, cleaner and safer. It operates under the principle of Arquimedes push for flotation. Only with air and water, without consumption of either. A detailed description, along with drawings and an animation may see in:
http://motiveandpneumaticenergyproducer.blogspot.com/
I am open to the general public, so that it can be used and modified freely, since it declared unpatentable. Therefore, I need a good spread of it to prevent anyone from taking him on an exclusive basis.
Thank you very much and I hope her comments,
Froilan Salaya
I think what you will find is that there is not enough power to eject the water, and the process will stop.
Quote from: Energiasinfin on August 30, 2008, 11:03:03 AM
MarkSCoffman
It's a good idea to use liquid heavier than water. We must take into account the law of Boyle on the compressibility of gases that rise in the drawers.
Greetings,
By the way, There are three additional things you can eventually look into;
#1 A vacuum is lighter than air. #2 a mechanical latch can be used remove
of compressibility issues. #3 A "free piston" design is possible.
You do have to remember three things. #1 an object is buoyed up by the weight of the fluid it displaces
at the surface - but it gets compressed by the weight of the fluid column @ height. #2 to get buoyed
up, a force needs to work upward from below the object. #3 For work to be done something must move.
:S:MarkSCoffman
cOMPLETELY OFF TOPIC !!!!
CAN SOMEBODY PLEEEEASE RECOMEND A GOOD QUALITY OSCILISCOPE FOR EXPERIMENTERS LIKE US???
the pleiadians have said that the pyramid, is the easiest way to get electricity.
at least if it is on a planet. where it can harvest the planets clockwise spin from the air, and the planets counterclockwise spin from the ground.
@JSHYDROXY
Check on Ebay or Craiglist for a second hand unit with a 100 mhz capability dual channels. Tektronix is a high quality unit. If you can afford or can maintenance an old crt scope as a second unit, they can can be of great help in search for the Holy Grail.
Take care,
Michel
THANX MICHELINO
IWILL DO JUST THAT. DIDNT REALLY KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR AS FAR AS CHANNELS AND FREQ. RANGE ...THANX BRO
@ @JSHYDROXY
And find a good analog multimeter. They show things the digital don't.
Take care and good luck,
Michel
On the test instruments, If you can find one, an old tube type scope can save you many repair/replace bills too. It most likely will not be able to
let you see much detail but then if the voltage is too high it may can and will burn out a digital one. Been there as many have. Make sure to have a
pair of 10X probes for it too.
thaelin
Welcome to the forum Energiasinfin
I am afraid that it is going to be disappointing. The frictions factors are tremendous, not to mention that you are going to have vacuum factors as well, even with an intake of air. Another person I know did a design with metal weights in a similar fashion but it held more weights on the descending side and it still wouldn't work due to friction and the angle pull is that of a tow on a rod with only 1/3 holding 2/3. It can stay there and have an overbalance but still will not move.
For your sakes I hope I am wrong. So good luck.