Ive been testing all sorts of different configs of cells but untill i saw this video on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qzrI20VPCw&feature=related
ive realised how far away we are from generating enough HHO to make a diffenece to a cars mpg, let alone run a car exclusivly on HHO.
I may have come to the conclusion that ive done nothing but waste my time and money with HHO generation :(
What do you think ?.... will we ever be able generate enough HHO to make a diffenec to a cars MPG ?
ps...i think the next thing to replace engines/fuel will no doubt be batterys such as the ones that are being made by these guys
http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:EEStore
Thats providing lockheed martin, eestores new business partners since january allow this technolgy to filter through to the public :o
That was a very interesting link, mmuuzzyy. Thanks for that. Doesn't look like we will be diy'ing those batteries... er... ultracapacitors.
I am inclined to agree with you about on-demand production of hho to supply or even supplement present ICE's designed for gasoline or diesel. I do hope that someone develops engines which are specifically designed to utilize the energy available from the recombination of hho.
IMO, generating hho with electricity from the grid is chasing our tails. We need other ways to produce it. Wind and PV are out because there is no sense in generating electricity to produce hho to produce electricity with. Same goes for hydro-electric. However I see one bright spot that is a possibility.
I am keenly interested in the thread "Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity" on this forum which ResinRat2 is spearheading the research on. If this process (which RR2 has shown does work) can be scaled up to supply energy for a home, all it consumes is water and very slowly, the zinc electrode. RR2 is presently trying to find a way to get the zinc electrode to re-plate itself 100% but even if he does not, I don't mind changing the electrode every couple of weeks or so. Zinc is cheap and plentiful.
My quandary is what to do with the hho once it has been made. I have yet to see a water or air heater which uses hho that I would trust not to blow my home up. I have not seen an ICE that has been proven to run on hho long term without possible engine damage. Fuel cells which can convert the gas to electricity are prohibitively expensive. Little ones that can run a toy fan cost hundreds of dollars and iirc can be ruined easily by contamination.
We need practical machines that make use of the hho we can produce.
I had a friend in the 70's that work for intelligence department, that said that they can't stop the leaks so they flood the market with half trues. I am probably more naive than most but I am also a spectic when people come out and only tell you a little bit. What about the oxygen part of his BTU calculation? He didn't seem to even address that part. I would rather keep trying instead of giving up so simple and say this guy knows all.
"Is this guy correct?"
Hardly, when your calculations are based off of solely hydrogen without oxygen mixed in, ignore everything he has to say!
Just another distraction from the truth.
Mikemongo
Hi
Loosen up guy's.
I did not even want to finish watching this Video.
Use your mind and think positive.
Negative thoughts is what THEY want to promote.
Don't waist you time listening to that B.S. T
he Fact still remains that Meyers,Dingle and the Shri Lankan fellow are running their cars on just Water and perhaps a lot more and the for good reasons the silent Types.
The Evidence is before your Eyes don't despair just because there are so many self proclaimed engineers ( some Copy and Paste Artists) with wild theories on all of these forums.No Insult intended! Those with Qualifications I dearly Respect.
What have they done for us ? They have confused you and me to go off on a wild goose chase. What have they NOT done? They have not proven the concept of their theories and produced not one single working Unit. With that I mean one like Meyers, Dingle and the Shri Lanka Fellow which are running their car on low current. Do you ever hear a Bunch of theories or Info from those that succeeded? NO!
Maybe Meyers but for a reason there is so much information of all aspects,only to confuse us even more.
I wish there were more positive Results and less of that bragging and Theory and guessing.
After
Years of tossing around ideas, has anyone come up with concrete scientifically recognized results?
If so come on lets hear about it, but please no B.S.,I am getting tired of that.
Professor
Quote from: mmuuzzyy on September 03, 2008, 05:15:34 PM
Ive been testing all sorts of different configs of cells but untill i saw this video on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qzrI20VPCw&feature=related
ive realised how far away we are from generating enough HHO to make a diffenece to a cars mpg, let alone run a car exclusivly on HHO.
I may have come to the conclusion that ive done nothing but waste my time and money with HHO generation :(
What do you think ?.... will we ever be able generate enough HHO to make a diffenec to a cars MPG ?
ps...i think the next thing to replace engines/fuel will no doubt be batterys such as the ones that are being made by these guys
http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:EEStore
Thats providing lockheed martin, eestores new business partners since january allow this technolgy to filter through to the public :o
This link puts you onto an easier system and a much harder system:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf
for 20amp to 30 amp, you can get 1.7 LPM, 3LPM or 50 LPM.
Well worth checking out.
Paul.
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In the video, he says that a liter of uncompressed hydrogen gas contains 11.48 BTU.
Eleven and a half BTU is not much heat energy, but how does that compare to a liter of HHO? A half inch soap bubble of HHO will pop like a firecracker when ignited. I have not tried it, but I suspect a liter of HHO would be quite impressive. In my younger days, I did set off a gallon milk jug filled with oxy/acetylene and I was worried that the neighbors 1/4 mile away would call the police. I suspect that a gallon of HHO would be more powerful.
I also suspect that a liter of HHO would provide (much) more than 11.5 BTU of energy.