Ok first off, I'm new here... My interest in free energy goes back about a year or so when I heard podcast where a person was claiming some kind of magnetic coil could theoretically create unlimited energy, power cars, etc. I started researching into it for a while but kind of lost hope. However, recently I've been getting into this alternative energy stuff again, big time. Basically I figured out that the automakers are dragging their feet on getting green energy to the market, and I began to ask myself, "Why is this happening?" Why aren't we seeing much progress in car technology... why is Detroit still pumping out gas guzzlers, running on 100 year old combustion engine technology. It just wasn't adding up. I knew something bigger had to be going on so I started reading up on all the inventors and watching all the youtube videos. I'm now convinced that free energy technology is here.
So what is stopping it from reaching the market? Is it just that big power companies essentially control the world? Is there a worldwide mafia or something that stops this stuff from getting past prototype stage? Are car manufacturers just plain stupid and not aware of the possibilities of better technology or are they conspiring to keep us in the dark ages? How long do you predict before say, a highly efficient electromagnetic power generator hits the market? How long before we'll be able to buy cars that don't need fuel? Am I just dreaming or is this stuff still decades away? Thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt8Y93k0pB0
...people are stopping free energy from going mainstream. They are too dumb and too engulfed in their small bubbles to care about anyone else or see further beyond their petty interests. Coupled with that docility is the Oligarchy that maintains the status quo and does not wish the masses to be freed from their claws.
But mostly it's the stupidity of the people, their lack of interest and blind belief into what they are being served through the usual brainwashing outlets. Perhaps in a few generations when all these dumb people die we might get some smart ones, though the way its going, today's children are dumber than the children before them thanks to the above mentioned brainwashing outlets.
It could be that free energy is just physically impossible, of course.
If you really believed it was impossible, why would you be here? The thing is, I know it's possible... if not by magnetic motors, then by cold fusion or solar panel technology, etc. It's not really a question of IF it's possible to me, but "What is the most most efficient way to get there?" Maybe enough people aren't looking for the answers because they'd rather have some textbook tell them how everything in the universe works instead of doing any thinking of their own. Or maybe the "powers that be" are able to stomp small inventors out one by one. I think for the benefit of the world, we need to put our petty differences and greed to the side for once and come together for the common good. I know it sounds corny, but it's the only way we're ever going to make any kind of progress.
Quote from: cyclopz on September 06, 2008, 02:48:52 AM
If you really believed it was impossible, why would you be here? The thing is, I know it's possible... if not by magnetic motors, then by cold fusion or solar panel technology, etc. It's not really a question of IF it's possible to me, but "What is the most most efficient way to get there?" Maybe enough people aren't looking for the answers because they'd rather have some textbook tell them how everything in the universe works instead of doing any thinking of their own. Or maybe the "powers that be" are able to stomp small inventors out one by one. I think for the benefit of the world, we need to put our petty differences and greed to the side for once and come together for the common good. I know it sounds corny, but it's the only way we're ever going to make any kind of progress.
One reason I'm here is that I also post on other forums in which I'm definitely in the majority, and it can get a little boring agreeing with everyone else all the time. There is a lot of diversity of opinion here on many subjects, so it's an interesting place.
I certainly believe in researching things like solar power, and who knows, maybe someone will figure out how to make cold fusion work. I live out in the middle of nowhere and have to drive a lot, so I would be very happy to see alternate energy sources developed. If by "free energy" you mean those types of things, then I'm all for it.
I thought you were referring to devices which violate CoE in some way, which I think is unlikely to happen. But still, if people want to research "overunity" energy sources, that's great, as long as they are honest about their results.
I would believe its world economy. Many countries import oil and generate revenue out of this, from taxes to sales.
Here's one thing that stopping it... Assuming the testatika is not a fake, and given all the witness reports the chances are it's not, then what's giving me so much trouble replicating it is the lack of details. The Methernitha community that makes the testatika doesn't want to say how it's done. They'll probably never tell and the technology will die with them. This is just one of many examples where the problem lies with the inventor - whatever their reasons.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org
It's called Government and Taxes (your puppet master). If you are caught driving your car in ANY of MANY US States on corn oil, EVEN if it's the oil from the corn you grew on your own land and processed yourself. Your car will be impounded and you will be arrested in violation many State and Federal Laws. Why? Simple put, they didnt collect taxes from you. The fines are stiff and the battle with Capitol Hill will be long and hard. Hope this helps you in your quest.
Ref:
why is Detroit still pumping out gas guzzlers, running on 100 year old combustion engine technology. ?
Answer:
Because this is buisiness
for industry, energy sellers, states-txes, working peoples,
otherwise... we are in "garden of eden"
Pese
Quote from: cyclopz on September 06, 2008, 02:48:52 AM
The thing is, I know it's possible... if not by magnetic motors, then by cold fusion or solar panel technology, etc. It's not really a question of IF it's possible to me, but "What is the most most efficient way to get there?"
I do not know, is it possible, but I do believe that it is. By some way. Not by idiocy and fake.
But ... in this forum you can not disbelieve even foolish fraud in fact. At least you must to be quiet,
Look at http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5176.0/topicseen.html
Atop of wonder waterwheel this guy told he has built as many as selfrunning magnetic wheel ... and just left it dust-covered ...
You can read what happend with who dared to have doubts or did animadvert that it is bullshit humbuggery,
Were it not that this video - claimed as truth - just idea - I had never told any bad words, perhaps some comments only.
I dont like lying.
Elseway this is good site - I like it,
Regards,
khabe
over 70 years is possibel and surpressed to save more than 30 % fuel.
Not only POGUE have patents on it.
US Army have driven here "tanks" in 2.war in europe ( and dismounted this after reourn to US)
Lots of other inventors have found different solution. Somes are surpressed, somes patents buy
from oil-industry . This is true buisiness. Earn the money ... not disturb this..
Nothing to say against it.
Pese
Nothing sums it it like a good vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiJE8kReN4k
And that vid stinks ( as utube does suck 4 quality), if u want hi def , http://www.vuze.com/details/VZZOJ6C5IXFQUW2VPWS7UQPRW6RHMFFU.html?a=SALL&cat=X&ch=X&cs=X&ct=X&page=Scontent%2FBucketSearch&pb=X&pg=1&pr=X&s=S300&st=SRELEVANCE&t=X&vt=1
Listen to the people read read read!
Even a post in this dang thread tells you the answer.
""Here's one thing that stopping it... Assuming the testatika is not a fake""
Heh if that quote don't do it I'll spell it out for you.
Investors do not wish to put R and D dollars into yet another free energy fraudster.
There is way too much at stake when you start investing in fraud and it could bring down the value of a company as well. They invest in sure fire things.
The inventor needs to make something that is easily reproduceable yet if he does this he knows that something easily reproduced will be sold second hand and if it is way too easy it simply will not be bought instead all the DIY's will just build and use it without giving any monitary credit...
Its sad but yes it is a money thing all around and with the lack of trust do to countless fraudsters investors are not able to provide money to investagate these possible FE/OU devices.
Sadly we all know Free Energy AKA Energy Freedom is possible but it is going to take a revolution which we are at the start of to make it a reality.
-infringer-
It is quite funny we are still a society of dismail even tough we know ways of doing non polluting "free" energy.
There is still no currency attached to the most important resource on earth.
Take for example a nuclear station making electricity at .15 cent . Their argument is that wind or solar power cost .20 to produce but there is a problem with nuclear ... it has waste ! does these are accounted for ? of course not !
The real free energy are already done and working except for the main establishment it is not profitable enough on short term , if it can't be paid in 8 year no governement will ever move . Don't we have a voice as a population in this system that is so called democracy ? Having a corrupt governement that just invested 2Gs here to repair a 25 year old nuclear power plant is the most outrageous thing i had ever heard from politic ( quebec province to invest 2gs over 4 year to restore gentilly nuclear power plant )
I think all it will take is one small company to get a working magnetic generator on the market.... for say a few thousand dollars or euros or whatever. One person buys it, hooks up their house and has free energy. They tell 100 people. Those 100 people of course want it, so they go call up the company and buy 100 generators. Then they all tell 100 people. Pretty soon, the entire world would have the technology and it would get improved with more research. I don't see what's stopping this from happening besides BIG money stepping in and just paying these inventors off. If they're in it for a few million, I think they're in it for the wrong reasons. There are tons of other ways to get rich... they should rise above their petty needs and give the world free energy for the benefit of everyone.
The TAXES, the banksters aka the Elite want your money and this will not give it to them. They need us to keep paying them our hard earned money and they will not allow you to be free of them. It is as simple as that. Look around in the news its all there.
@ All
I think it's possible that there might be free energy machines out there, there's certainly a lot of people claiming there is but sometimes replicating them is a real challenge because of lack of organization and intentional or unintentional misinformation in the threads or lack of information all together!
I ran across this one awhile back http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news5.26.08c.html it sounds almost like the Bedini type generator that returns energy from coils.
I did a search for it on this site and couldn't find a thread discussing this, but then again, I've posted before in a new thread some technology and then was told it was discussed in several threads, you see that's just the problem! When I do a search I couldn't find it, wrong keyword etc. who knows.
There's how many threads times how many posts on all kinds of parallel technologies in this and other forums that things get lost real quickly, there's no way for an individual to read through all the posts in all the threads to try to replicate something of interest without eventually being bogged down by sidetracks and upgraded schematics and all the rest that goes with them.
Don't get me wrong here, I think open source is certainly the way to go to protect inventors and their technology and I'm not knocking this forum or the threads being worked on, I myself have, on occasion, posted links to similar technology relevant to discussions that could probably have been started as a new thread but since a thread on the subject was already started I thought it might help :P
There should be a way to create a new thread and post only the best of the best solutions that have been successfully created or replicated and cut out all of the background noise of sidetracks from the original "successful" replicable invention. These threads should be moderated to keep them clean, maybe even open parallel threads such as:
1. Open a thread for Successful COP > 1.0 Tech with complete plans on how to replicate and lock it down.
2. Open a second thread for Successful COP > 1.0 of said Tech with relevant replication information.
3. Open a third thread for Successful COP > 1.0 of said Tech with relevant replication information and positive discussions.
4. Open a fourth thread for Unsuccessful COP > 1.0 of said Tech with relevant replication information and all the BS/Negative/Misinformation discussions ::)
I know it wouldn't be easy but at least it would force sidetracks and negatives in their own corner...LOL...and possibly come up with a winner eventually :)
Bottom line is, yes, I believe there are inventors that have made such free energy technologies work such as the great "Tesla" and many others, but, we need something simple that most could replicate in an environment that is constructive and for god's sake noise free concise replicable information and that will generate enough energy to run a house or a car (although I think running a car maybe too much to start with because of all the MIB/GOV/Taxes etc) ;D
Regards to all.
Paul
Tesla had his run ins with the moneyed interests of his day.His lab was even burned down.The world is the way it is because those with the money decide what toys you can have.I once had a car that got 50mpg.But ten years later I could not find a decent motor to put into the car(1986 chevy sprint).Two years after I bought the car they stopped making them.And put out the geo metro instead.Of course the new(geo metro) motors would not fit my sprint.So the corporations got me too.They took away my gas efficient car.Triffid
I think that one of the things to do is to learn as much as you can and start working towards putting solar and wind power into your home.I have had solar power in my home for 8 years now.I'm also on the grid.At least if the grid fails I have a light and a tv to watch.Triffid
There were fueless cars that were developed.Google up"Rrichard Clems" for one such story.His story happened here in Dallas,Texas.Triffid
Sorry,thats" Richard Clems".Triffid
That Richard Clems story is very interesting... I'm surprised he doesn't have a PESwiki page. Kind of suspicious that his blueprints were confiscated by the FBI... Kind of makes it seem like the US government *might* be trying to cover it up. :-\ All I know is this free energy research is exhausting. I feel like it's consuming all my time. I guess the potential rewards are worth it though... free energy for the world... I just hope it's not at the expense of my personal health and safety. I've given up on magnetic motors for a while and started researching cold fusion again... The original 1989 fiasco was a giant cover-up. I'm pretty sure cold fusion is real now. I just don't know why the world would be keeping it on the "back burner" if it could safely provide power... maybe it's a conspiracy in the scientific community or maybe we just don't know enough about cold fusion yet to get it to provide safe, consistent power. I'm hoping for some breakthroughs in the near future. I'm just getting burned out on this whole topic though I guess... I hope SOMEONE will discover a real feasible way to create energy. SOON. The world needs it.
Quote from: madsen on September 05, 2008, 12:10:19 PM
It could be that free energy is just physically impossible, of course.
Agree
Thane is closest to achieving FE.
When the cold fusion thing broke in 1989.I collected all the info from the newspapers I could because I knew it would be declared a hoax.Just Like when I visited the twin towers in NYC.Dec,2000 and was nervous as hell when I was there.Because I knew the terrorists had wanted (in 1993) to bring it down.Finally, I figured I might be ok that day and I was able to relax some and enjoy the visit.But nine months and some days later they did bring it down.I think that cold fusion is possible.I have read too that some of the experiments are dangerous.And that people have been killed in the process.Risk is in everything it seems.triffid
The most recent answer to this question that I've heard is scary. The "Powers that Be" believe the Earth is overpopulated and want to bring the total population down to around 500 million people. Free energy doesn't help their plan...death...sickness...war...famine...disaster...pollution...etc....these all fit into their plan well. See...it's not about money any more. It's all about power and control. The rich do not want any more people than are required to keep them rich. The rest is a nuisance.
Welcome to Earth.
About a worldpopulation of 500 million is written on thje Georgia Guidestones, youtube has some video's of it.
I don't know what the rich and powerful have in mind for the people alive on the earth today.But it does seem that with all the corporations seizing control like they do all around the world.The little guy has no place but being under their boot.I hate to just give up and die.But I am woefully trapped in their webs too.I once had a gas efficient car and found it taken from me because of board room decisions at chevrolet deciding to no longer make the chevy sprint.My 1996 chevy sprint got 50mpg.After 10 years I could no longer find a suitable engine for it( I had replaced 3 in it)So I could not find a fourth.Thats what happened to me.On a personal level.Today I drive a car that gets less than half.Triffid
Sorry guys I already mentioned the car story in this thread.Much of the world as it is today was made before we were born.If you get wealth it can be taxed out of your hands.It's another painful truth I am learning now.Who wants to go live in a cave on the moon with me?Triffid
This should explain whats stooping it, and points out a solution
http://panacea-bocaf.org/researchanddevelopment.htm