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Title: Gravitator as primary energy in electrolysis?
Post by: Gravitator on September 11, 2008, 01:58:35 AM
Hi,

I have an idea to produce energy from gravitation. It is described at http://gravitator.org.
I was wondering is it possible to use it as primary energy source in electrolysis. What I have
in my mind is something like:

  Gravitator -> mechanism to turn slow strong rotation to faster rotation  -> generator -> battery -> electrolysis -> hydrogen.

...of course this could be something else too.

As far as I know the electricity cost has been the problem when producing energy using electrolysis.
In this way I think it could be possible to reduce these costs?

br,
Gravitator
Title: Re: Gravitator as primary energy in electrolysis?
Post by: Koen1 on September 11, 2008, 06:06:47 AM
hmmm... well, looks like someone's been thinking... ;)

Are you this Michael?
Have you tried it yet?

Interesting variation of a gravity wheel... :)
Title: Re: Gravitator as primary energy in electrolysis?
Post by: Gravitator on September 11, 2008, 06:23:05 AM
Yes, it's me and no I haven't. I'm not good in building these kind of things and I don't know what
kind of possibilities technology can offer to do these kind of things. So that's why I'm looking help on this.
Title: Re: Gravitator as primary energy in electrolysis?
Post by: Koen1 on September 11, 2008, 08:42:48 AM
Ah, ok. :)
Well, like i said, it looks like a nice design for a gravity wheel...

Perhaps you can find ideas in the forum section on gravity- and water-wheels?

It seems to me that, if you can make 4 relatively ok pistons, you've already
got most of it... They don't even need to be 100% watertight, as long as it
can prove your concept.
So we need 4 good sized pistons in cylinders mounted rigidly on a rotor, and 4 equal
weights attached to those pistons...

Good luck! Hope to hear more of it. :)
Title: Re: Gravitator as primary energy in electrolysis?
Post by: ChileanOne on September 11, 2008, 02:06:19 PM
The idea looks good, the problem is finding the way to achieve a functional proof of concept, and mostly in how to finance it.

Do you have any possibility of geting funds for building a prototype?

Otherwise, this stays in theoretical phase for ever.

Anyway, is there a chance to model it in WM2D?

Title: Re: Gravitator as primary energy in electrolysis?
Post by: Gravitator on September 12, 2008, 06:17:01 AM
I have now tested following parts of Gravitator:

- lifting up water (with pressure only, no negative pressure in this test)
- balance of the wheel with tanks


I took some images of these tests. These can be found at http://gravitator.org/tests.html


It is not a prototype but hopefully answers some questions that are wanted from prototype.


I also found an interesting text from web about capillary effect and lifting up water using
this - or actually trees are using this ;)

This can be found at http://bainite.wordpress.com/2006/05/06/how-do-trees-raise-water/
Title: Re: Gravitator as primary energy in electrolysis?
Post by: ChileanOne on September 12, 2008, 10:43:54 AM
Hello Gravitator, I like your enthusiasm, but capillary effect only works on microscopic pores (few microns across) and is pretty much caused by Van der Wall attraction forces between water moleculas, which are very weak and based on electrostatic potential and Brownian motion, so the possibility of extracting useful work from them are really slim.

Gravitation is a much more strong force than Van der Wall boundary attraction, and magnetism is much more strong than gravitation, so, combining the latter two, there is much more potential for obtaining usefull work.

Just my two cents.