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Title: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: mikestorm on September 19, 2008, 04:08:11 AM
Hi everyone

this is my first topic, i would like to build a tri coiler replica, in order to get a good rpm enaugh to turn one or more car alternator(as a 12 generator to feed an inverter)

as in the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ssjL_x3GD0

can someone help me to build one?, or if you have some idea ecc, for make one batter, please write here

sorry for my english mistake, i'm not english mother tongue

best regards
Mikestorm
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: mikestorm on September 23, 2008, 04:23:26 AM
no one can help me?
I would like to know something more on the wire, turns, bobin size ecc

thank's
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: gyulasun on September 23, 2008, 09:10:57 AM
Mikestorm,

see this link and download chapter 6

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/   it must give answers for you.

rgds Gyula
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: mikestorm on September 24, 2008, 06:39:14 AM
thank's for your reply

hope this will help me to build a nice and efficient one

i have only a question, can i put the out put directly in the inverter, or the 100V spike will damage it?

mikestorm
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: mscoffman on September 24, 2008, 11:46:25 AM
Quote from: mikestorm on September 24, 2008, 06:39:14 AM

i have only a question, can i put the out put directly in the inverter, or the 100V spike will damage it?

mikestorm

A one hundred volt spike into a 12 volt to AC inverter will surely damage it, even though
auto-electronics are made to withstand spikes to some extent. Consider using a
power inductor into a low ESR electrolytic cap. The inductor will block the high voltage
spike and then the cap will short residual spikes to ground. You will need to find
some document to use like an 'ARRL handbook' to design the inductor to get proper
characteristics because you want it to have low resistance to DC for efficiency
so you will want to use sufficient but minimum turns of wire and a core.

:S:MarkSCoffman
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: mikestorm on September 25, 2008, 04:42:19 AM
HI Marks

are you saying that also if i put the inverter on an vehicle alternator with a voltage regulator built in, i can damage it?
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: mikestorm on October 07, 2008, 05:59:31 AM
Hi all
these are my news

yesterday i've made a coil with two wire of 0.51 diameter, twisted togheter, and about 31meter(100 foot).

now i'm looking for the right circuit

any suggest are pleased

thank's to all
Mike
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: Goat on October 07, 2008, 09:23:36 AM
Hi mikestorm;

Have you downloaded and read through the chapter 6 pdf as suggested by gyulasun in the previous post?  The information for the coils and circuits are in that document from page 6-10 onwards.

Regards,
Paul
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: mscoffman on October 07, 2008, 01:16:11 PM
Quote from: mikestorm on September 25, 2008, 04:42:19 AM
HI Marks

are you saying that also if i put the inverter on an vehicle alternator with a voltage regulator built in, i can damage it?

No, If you are running a relatively powerful pulse motor on a battery in either the "charge" or "source"
position then connecting an inverter to the battery the pulses will damage the inverter. Pulses happen in a normal vehicle charging from an alternator but they are one shot kinds of things. You could also damage an alternator's regulator from a relatively powerful pulse motor attached to a battery. 

:MarkSCoffman
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: mikestorm on October 08, 2008, 05:07:58 AM
thank's for the reply guys

1) i've read the chapter 6, and than i decided to make a first experiments, just to see if things works or not.
i've also read the short specs on the tri coiler wrote on youtube page.
now i'm waiting for the components, to make the circuit
2) the thing i would like to do is, a good pulse motor, with enaugh torque to spin a car alternator or a wind mill type generator(a little one), that gives me a 12/13 vdc, rectified offcourse, that feeds a set of a couple of battery, and at last power up my home light(the new low power) with an inverter, like magnacoster did.

thats all i would do, nothing more, nothing less

i've seen also that a normal inverter can be feeded by an alternator, for use pc in car and other light power things

am i travelling in the right way?

thank's
Mike
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: nievesoliveras on November 05, 2008, 11:14:56 AM
Hi!

I did this alternator inverter thing and I used the LM317 transistor to lower the voltage to 13.8volts so the inverter could function without throwing smoke and sparks.  I could not get overunity though.

Jesus
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: nievesoliveras on November 05, 2008, 12:14:18 PM
Hi!

The photos of what is left of the experiment are these:

Jesus
Title: Re:a step to Tricoiler replica, HELP ME
Post by: mikestorm on July 24, 2009, 05:25:19 AM
after many days of inactivity, i hooked up my coil, and had some problems, that i'm going to explain:

done the bedini circuit(in the trigger circuit i've omitted the lamp and the pot, because with it the rotor went very slow);
done the coil with 100ft of two twisted wire 0.41mm thick;
done the rotor with alluminium, and used 8 ceramic magnet 19x4 mm each;
done and checked all the connections

this is what i've got:
my sistem runs at 423rpm(measured with a mountain bike computer), with 12volts at 0.45(max)amps.
didnt connected the charge battery, but the neon bulb didnt light up.
when i connect a little 12volts lamp 250mA, the rotor starts to reduce rpm.
when i disconnect the drive battery, the light didnt light up.

other things:
the 100ohm resistor is very hot, i've put one of 5watt instead of the 1 watt, but is still hot.
i used a solid iron cilinder instead of the welding rod.
twisted the wire togheter very tight


what i'm doing wrong?
please help me
tomorrow i'm going to post some photos
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: mikestorm on August 25, 2009, 04:49:05 AM
some news:
i've put a car alternator in the rear of my system, it can speed up to 2000rpm, but when i turn on the car alternator, in order to excite the internal coil to form a magnetic field, the system goes down in rpm and in 20 second +/- it stop to turn.

whats wrong?
maybe is the magnetic field of the internal coil of the rotor is too strong and eliminate the magnetic field of the bedini system?
please help me
mikestorm 
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: mikestorm on August 31, 2009, 04:53:01 AM
anyone can help me?
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 31, 2009, 02:55:10 PM
Quote from: mikestorm on August 31, 2009, 04:53:01 AM
anyone can help me?


Maybe I can help you.
Just post the schematic and the photos of your work.
Please post the schematic with the latest changes you have made.

Jesus
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: mikestorm on September 17, 2009, 05:31:41 AM
i've found the problem
when i give power to the rotor coil of the alternator, the cogging is too strong and the bedini starts to slow very fast.
i think there is not much torque, someone told me to change the rotor of the alternator with a permanent magnet rotor, but i thinks it will be a bit of cogging again
other idea?
Title: Re: Someone did build a Tricoiler replica?
Post by: mikestorm on November 15, 2009, 10:54:57 AM
Something new

in the last weeks i've build a tricoiler replica, like someone wrote in the pdf file chapter 6 as i remember right.
using 3 spools, of 7 coils istead on 6coils.
the wire that i've been using is 0.48 mm thick, Tr is 2n3055, 1n4007 diode, and the same value for the resistor as wrote in the file.
i use neodimium magnet istead on ceramic magnet.

i've some problems:
the maximum rpm at 12v is 700/800 and not 5000 as i saw in some youtube videos.
when i switch one the power, it can be eard a sound, but this sound isn't eard in the youtube video
what i'm doing wrong?

please help me to go the right way

best regards