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Title: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: innovation_station on September 28, 2008, 06:47:07 PM
thease units are being built  and soon will be offered for sale .....

they are designed to grow things...  like food

they run off almost no power  ;)

ist


comming   soon! 

to a green house near you!

time to forget the hps and metal halide bulbs....  they are  power piggs 

Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: powercat on September 28, 2008, 07:19:33 PM
Hi innovation_station

Any more info on this,
grow lighting without heat is very useful  ;D

cat
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: innovation_station on September 28, 2008, 08:05:35 PM
well they will be very simple  cheaply made

my plan is to use extruded alum frame it will be arriving tomorrow then we will place 300 LEDs in it

it will be much similar to my flashlight kits


it will be powered from 1.5 volts DC power

each length will have 300 bulbs and 10 rings  and 1 1.5vdc adaptor  the LEDs will be specific to plant growth  as well the angle of the LEDs will be considered .....


as to over lap the proper spectrum's.....

we are currently taking custom order's


contact   innovation.station@hotmail.com    att. grow lights

alum extrusions will be milled on a cnc mill ....


there is no limit.....

william
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: AbbaRue on September 28, 2008, 09:29:10 PM
Maybe you could run these with Dr Stifflers SEC unit.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3457.new;topicseen#new
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: innovation_station on September 28, 2008, 10:40:52 PM
yes im sure you could ....

here is the design i just finished ....


i have a simple power curcuit im useing for this unit

i will post a actual prototype model soon as i gather the parts

this is yes quite simple in operation

ist
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: innovation_station on October 03, 2008, 08:45:58 AM
well im almost finished the first few prototypes

the extrusion arrived but was not wide enough so i went and bought some more plexi glass i do love the look of the plexi :)

so my first unit i used small leds standard size..   i fit 45 leds on 1 board 3x5 all spaced evenly i will be building a few more like this one to make up a single gro light

the second unit im almost finished is 4x6 board and i used large leds like my flashlight and i fit 54 leds on it  i will build more boards with this unit too to make up 1 gro lite

so ...


i will most likely go with the big leds for my production units and i may use pin spots so as to have the most light intencity in a given area

my finished unit will be pattened!!

as well the rest of my work   :o

i have so far almost 65 diffrent units designed

and all will give the gift of LOVE 8)

ist
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: broli on October 03, 2008, 09:35:06 AM
Have you also looked at using hydroponics? It's a very efficient way of growing stuff without soil. The big problem for me with it was the fact you needed industrial light (about 600W) if you wanted to grow it inside. This is also a dream of mine to promote it as much as possible if free energy is found.
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: Yucca on October 03, 2008, 09:58:37 AM
Great idea, I've done hydroponics with sunlight and with 400w HPS and as you say HPS gets very hot and so does the ballast, which is good if you live in the arctic but not so good when you're growing in a small indoor space like a closet. Thankfully i now have a little soil outdoors so I now only grow in fertilised soil under the sun.

I remember researching LED growlights and remember reading how it's better to pulse LEDs at a certain rate for the most efficient conversion of electricity to photosynthesis, I was also suprised to see that LED grow lights use a certain ratio combination of red and blue LEDs (i think more red than blue if memory serves), makes sense though when you see that plants just reflect the green.

Keep up the great work and good luck with your product. ;)
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: powercat on October 05, 2008, 12:37:56 PM
Good point Yucca
How is crop yield affected by LED ?


cat
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: Yucca on October 05, 2008, 01:45:33 PM
Quote from: powercat on October 05, 2008, 12:37:56 PM
Good point Yucca
How is crop yield affected by LED ?


cat

Hi cat,

I have no first hand experience with LED growing, but from what I've read the yield (grams of growing mass per kWh of energy used) is several times greater compared to discharge tubes, and that's just using DC driven LEDs, even more yield when you pulse the LEDs and I presume even more so with a driver circuit like InnovationStations.

The only down side with LEDs is that they do not penetrate the foliage canopy as well as sunlight or discharge tubes, but to get around this the plants can be trained using wire screens to grow in a flat plane beneath the LEDs and of course the entire growroom can also be lined with highly reflective mylar to scavenge any stray photons.

Interestingly the yield can also be DRAMATICALLY increased by enriching the growing environment with CO2, it doesn't take much, a sodastream bottle will last for ages, the trouble is that you have to keep the dose within range which requires a fairly expensive control system with a transducer which can sample the CO2 levels. Although I have read of people brewing bear in their grow rooms, they get the balance just right so that the yeast farts just enough CO2 over the plants, a very enjoyable symbiosis. :D

Yucca.
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: powercat on October 05, 2008, 03:19:50 PM
Hi Yucca

Thanks great information
Looking forward to innovation_station next update


cat
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on October 05, 2008, 04:35:25 PM

Great work IS...what an energy saver this is.

I hope they don't start producing knock offs on you...I would never deal with any company doing that...but it goes on like a virus in the patent business, unless an invention requires skilled manufacturing process.

Other than that, ideally, it would be best if one was able to build up a huge inventory before going public with the details...then you have a jump on the cling-ons, and can have the market flooded with your product.

After that its dog eat dog...or a lifetime of litigation...but you probably know all that already.

But before all that happens, would your system be able replace for my 12 foot long full spectrum tubes ?

They must have properties which allow me to distinguish shades of color, a natural effect in other words.

Or would the grow lights do the same thing ?

Regards...
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: innovation_station on October 06, 2008, 08:41:35 PM
in ripping around on the net i found some real nice leds.....   lol   1 watt each!!!   i will lite thousands of thease ....


so far they are only offered white thease white ones will be security ....

cant waite for the blues and the reds....


ist
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: innovation_station on October 07, 2008, 10:14:28 PM
well got it done

the small board and small leds ...

and results are better than i expected

i managed to power all 45 leds from 1 single ring and 1 aaa battery  ;D ;D ;D

ist

my ring has only 7 turns   lol :D

Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: innovation_station on October 09, 2008, 11:40:41 AM
here is a pic of the led boards i built

ist
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: innovation_station on October 09, 2008, 11:45:10 AM
here is a picture of the small board being lit with 1 ring and 1 aa battery 45 3vdc super bright leds

ist
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: innovation_station on October 09, 2008, 11:53:16 AM
here is a pic of my original design all tho i added 1 more ring to the prototype design as the big leds require a little more power...

ist

disregarde the batteries this pic was taken for the security lights...
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: Golden Mean on October 09, 2008, 11:59:55 AM
Are you aware of the new plasma bulbs that are about to come on the market? 
They use less power than LED's and have a spectral output closer to the Sun than Metal Halides.

Check it out....

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/04/luxim-plasma-lifi-light-bulb-led-cfl.php (http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/04/luxim-plasma-lifi-light-bulb-led-cfl.php)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTGsM9pplUs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTGsM9pplUs)

Thought you should know...

Peace,
~Golden Mean
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: innovation_station on October 09, 2008, 12:07:19 PM
perfect... i am truly blowen away wow!!!!!!!!

thank you for this info i was un aware of this ...

well lol

time to adapt.....


;) ;) ;D

i better find a way to lite thease lil guys...


ist
Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: innovation_station on October 09, 2008, 12:36:31 PM
i guess its time to digg in the tickle trunk and pull out some nano crystals .....    ;) :D ;D

ist

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/03/nanocrystal-coating-led-lightbulbs.php


i just happin to have 500 grams of the finest nano crystals laying around......


hummmm  i bet i even got some epoxy resin to mix it in .... and coat my light bulbs  or boards....

thanks agin bro for this info  8)

Title: Re: IST LED GROW rack lighting systems
Post by: powercat on October 11, 2008, 05:22:43 PM
Hi Golden Mean

Great post

more info on Luxim LIFI plasma light bulb
 http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Luxim_Corporation (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Luxim_Corporation)

cat