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Energy from Natural Resources => Electrolysis of H20 and Hydrogen on demand generation => Topic started by: Jokker on October 04, 2008, 06:48:46 PM

Title: Heating systems.
Post by: Jokker on October 04, 2008, 06:48:46 PM
So far as i know hydrogen is a very efficient and clean as fuel.


What about house heating system by using hydrogen ?
Hydrogen can be produced from water by 60%+ efficiency.

Hydrogen is also a most efficient way to store energy. Solar panels, wind turbines and so on.

If hydrogen is produced by using electrolysis then it could be well controlled and  tuned.

Many good sides but when it comes to purpose then it need to be well used so it need to be efficient right?
For example forced air heating pump got 500% + efficiency. (converting electrical en
energy to heat energy)

What do you ppl think about a whole "hydrogen as fuel for central heating system", idea.
- Hydrogen burns at very high temperature "normal burning temperature" 2300c +  

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OK !!!  it is a 2 o clock atm. I tried to write something reasonabe druing a day ,,,
Whatever ....
What do you think about this idea as a project at school  ?

Title: Re: Heating systems.
Post by: HeairBear on October 04, 2008, 09:09:00 PM
I like the idea! Efficient heating is a major need for me where I live and it's starting to get cold. The price of electricity has doubled since last year and I really need a safe alternative. A small water powered space heater would be ideal. In fact I wonder how hard it would be to design an instant hot water heater that uses water to heat itself. Maybe even make a mini cavitation heater. A GEET system might be handy too. Add more efficiency possibly by utilizing thermocouples or sterling engines. I know, easier said than done but I can dream, can't I?

How about this link? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWpB3peU3Uk  That could be used for free heat somehow I'm sure. There is even a new thread recently started here on OU dot com... http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5064.0;topicseen  This, to me, is truly a break through to free energy! And free energy can be used to make heat any way you like.

Isn't dreaming fun? I wish I had time to try it all. Maybe someday...
Title: Re: Heating systems.
Post by: Paul-R on October 05, 2008, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: HeairBear on October 04, 2008, 09:09:00 PM
I like the idea! Efficient heating is a major need for me where I live and it's starting to get cold.
Don't forget that electolysis systems tend to give hydroxy gas which is VERY explosive. It
must be diluted.

Another interesting system is the Peter Daysh Davey heater which is driven by mains electricity
but can give x10 or even x20 output depending on the quality of the tuning:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4083.0
Paul.
Title: Re: Heating systems.
Post by: Jokker on October 05, 2008, 05:02:10 PM
Hmm "who so" over unity theme ?

Over unity is a tricky effect. Over unity is about a input and output. You can name a process as over unity1 when total output is larger in sum that input. Image a process when output amount groves progressively... hmm ?

I quess if you want to create something like it then u cant follow ordinary and tested ways. Non usual way is not very practical way to build something what works.


Im trying to get practical and build something new and needed by market. I can get some $ only for a project ;) . It is not much but it will work fine for me. It is a nice way to go by and motivates to learn stuff, well ;).


So what about my idea ?
Heating systems by using hydrogen as fuel.
IT is clean fuel... It is well sortable and so on.

Most important part  it efficiency right ? If it is heating system then heat is what you want to get. 

What do u ppl think about a hydrogen water heater.
Hydrogen is a most efficient fuel after all right ... It burns at highest temperature and ....

Electrical heating got almost 100 % efficiency. It is like 1 kw = 1 kw heat.
For example electrolysis. I could be way to harvest energy(heat) from water.





Title: Re: Heating systems.
Post by: Jokker on October 10, 2008, 03:11:48 PM
Anything ?

I have found some interesting statements about existing tehnology.

Xogen:
"Xogen's patented technology uniquely splits the water molecule into a 2 to 1 mixture of hydrogen and oxygen gas with less electrical current than is predicted by standard laws of electrolysis. "


Anyone tried to compare DC and pulsed current ?

Any changes in output ? Less heat ?