Anyone have a parts list w/ values of the RAVZZ circuit?
Or if there's an updated/more efficient circuit please share...
or do I buy an off the shelf unit like the Aquapulser?
I'm up to page 174 of 240 in the Stanley MEYER Resonant Electrolysis Cell System.
And I am very anxious to get started "doing" something....
WOW...anyone even have this info?
Try the D14 document and the document on the Panacea university site dot org site.
Thanks...read it several times... my concern is that I've also read other sites where it has been stated that
these documents have been "altered" with disinformation... concerns brought up are the connections of the 555
circuits... anyone have updated schematics? I just dropped over $100 US on parts only to read this disheartening
information... now I'm starting to join the ranks of the NON-BELIEVERS...as it seems no-one can provide a working schematic
for replication of LAWTON/RAVI/Meyer and many others...I'm tired of reading theory...I've been thru atleast 3000 plus pages of documents that have been posted and ALL for nothing...
I've spent atleast $4000 US, that I have receipts for, on components that have proved FALSE...
Frog, many have made the Signal generator from Dave and Ravzz, including my self, the signal generator is not the problem, the problem is getting the patience to electro plate the cell and find the best VIC for it.
If you need a signal generator there are many who can sell you one, just follow the D14 document down to a T, we did and its working.
Ash
this is the post that did it for me:
http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=2060#2060
can anyone verify this before I dump anymore time into this effort?
Frog build the new version of the circuit go here for Dave lawton.
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt10.html
I will check it out and give it a try, but I swear this is my last attempt...I swear it...Thank you for the links...
Hey frog, check out my site at the bottom of my post, it has links to a lot of Meyer's patents, the D14/Lawton replica instructions, and if you click on my experiments you will see a general layout of how it should all fit together --- keep the faith bro!
Has anyone even had a successful replication? with 3x faraday or whatever?
I had no luck with this.
Quote from: ashtweth_nihilisti on October 15, 2008, 12:57:53 AM
Frog, many have made the Signal generator from Dave and Ravzz, including my self, the signal generator is not the problem, the problem is getting the patience to electro plate the cell and find the best VIC for it.
If you need a signal generator there are many who can sell you one, just follow the D14 document down to a T, we did and its working.
Ash
Ahh, The primary coil of a old auto ignition coil is the best choke for the job, its also around 1.2 to 1.5 ohms per choke, i recommend using 1 of those if not 2.
Br, Hydro
Hi Hydro , we are going to try the signal gen into the toroidal and then 9 inductors like the new Ravi doc shows, we will do a gas flow test with the signal gen with out the VIC and after to prove Meyers is not electrolysis and works.
Ash
WOW...finally something that really works at LOW current...thanks
Frog, you have to EXPERIMENT bro, and stick with it, they didn't kill Meyers for no reason ;)
replicating Ravi's & Dave's work
i am trying to condition my rods,but if i apply the current it gives out a constant 1.46-1.50 amps to the rods even after changing the main frequency it remains the same.
if i remove the 820+220 resistance from negative side the amps goes up to 2.5 amps & stays constant.
kindly reply a.s.a.p.
I see some have altered the docs to show 100 ohm resistors on the pots? Not sure why they are needed as my cell
functions w/o them..anyone have an idea why they are on some docs and not others? I have also noticed docs showing zeners
off the FET, and have read this is for FET protection incase of short circuit...
Also some other observations:
I had to run my power from my switching DC power supply into a bridge rectifier then to my lawton circuit, I was getting a gawd awful
high pitched "noise" from the power supply when connected to the lawton circuit...? I do NOT have enough electronics
knowledge to troubleshoot that...or to use an o-scope for that matter.. But I can let the smoke out of components pretty
good now...I think I have mastered that part, I didn't know that components ran on smoke, and when you let it out they
stop working? How can I put more smoke back into the circuits than I let out? Is this even possible? Is it over unity? :)
frog the docs were updated in order to be more stable and also under instruction from Dave, the latest ones is what you shod model off and what Ravzz doc is modeled off. I suggest you seek out any one local who is in to electronics to help you on your way, its a very slow process, but think of the rewards
The 100ohm resistors next to the pots are to keep your chip from blowing up like mine did when I removed them... it maintains a minimum resistance across that part of the circuit.
Where is this next document with 9 inductors on it?
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/
-> Ravzz water fuel cell PDF
THANKS to all...
Now I'm scrapin this and going back to page 17 of "High voltage HHO by IronHead" and starting from ground zero.
But, I could use some help with his thread; Apparently, I'm only on the back half of this stuff...I cannot find the thread
pages that are mentioned in the current thread... i.e they talk about going back to page 14 or page xx and I hadn't even gotten
up to those pages in this post and when I got there there were no references to the info being talked about back on the pages
I was at??? I'm confused with this thread... was it split into another thread are there additional threads I should read first? Or
a book i should buy from this guy... ugh my head hurts I've been reading his thread for 7 hours straight now...
Frog
still researching this HHO stuff..
@ Farlander:
I was wondering why you had those there... thanks for clarifying that... I had gotten so damn pissed at all the
different schematics I have found for this circuit...
@ ashtweth_nihilisti:
Dude, you have gone above and beyond helping me, thank you...
in Research Paper on Ravi’s Water Fuel cell Replication by Panacea-BOCAF On-Line University on page 38 their is a message posted which says Message: "I have duplicated Stan Meyer's work, and have taken it several steps forward. First, during assembly of the generator, I have found that you must tune the tubes to the same pitch. I do it with a simple guitar tuner. Just clip it to the tube and strike it with a small brass (to prevent polarization) hammer. The easiest............goes upto........I don't add the toroid until final assembly, and try to maintain a 1/8' gap from the top of the tubes to the toroid. I am currently running 70psi in the generator. -End".
can anyony anyone explain "and try to maintain a 1/8' gap from the top of the tubes to the toroid". ??? ??? ???
Yes, putting the toroid coil (step up transformer) INTO the actual cell very close to the water supposedly enhances the reaction because of the flux field created by the magnet. This was first brought to my attention by the HydroStar? document, it was a for sale instruction manual on water fuel for cars.
@Farlander
Dude, DOUBLE CHECK YOUR SCHEMATIC, listed on your site, compare the 555 pinouts to what you have listed.
HUGE difference in the connections, bet your frying a lot of 555's...
Quote from: jas_bir77 on October 26, 2008, 02:20:24 PM
in Research Paper on Ravi’s Water Fuel cell Replication by Panacea-BOCAF On-Line University on page 38 their is a message posted which says Message: "I have duplicated Stan Meyer's work, and have taken it several steps forward. First, during assembly of the generator, I have found that you must tune the tubes to the same pitch. I do it with a simple guitar tuner. Just clip it to the tube and strike it with a small brass (to prevent polarization) hammer. The easiest............goes upto........I don't add the toroid until final assembly, and try to maintain a 1/8' gap from the top of the tubes to the toroid. I am currently running 70psi in the generator. -End".
can anyony anyone explain "and try to maintain a 1/8' gap from the top of the tubes to the toroid". ??? ??? ???
Jas, this is the research part of the document, perhaps he is talking about the Gap between the tubes. I never heard back from that guy too.
Ash
I will check on the schematic and update the site in the next couple days. This is the drawing I'm currently going off of, can anyone verify its validity?
I'm going to eliminate the 100uf caps and 100ohm resistors, since my power supply is a very clean 12V wall brick. I'm also changing the 100ohm resistors which are in series with the pots to 47 ohm resistors, and each pot from 10k or 47k to 5M. Hopefully I will be able to play with a new range of frequency and pulse width.