I was just researching about the coanda effect (aerodinamic effect) with my new pc fan when I have just seen a strange effect. I don't know about electronics, so I want let me know your opinion.
2 Wall transformers. (A: 24 Volts @ 0.29 A, B: 9 Volts @ 0.33 A)
TESTS I HAVE MADE
* I connect 2 black wires together and 2 red wired together to the fan. The fan seems to be running at the same speed like when is only connected to the A transformer (24V@0.29A).
* If I connect 2 black wires together and the A wire (24v 0.29a) it runs ok
But...
* When I connect 2 black wires together to the black wire of the fan and then I connect ONLY the red wire of the B (9V 0.33A) the fan starts running at a very high speed!!! Remeber that the red wire of the transformer A is not connected, only the black wire is connected.
You can see it in the picture.
This is only disinformation or is a Energy Amplification effect?
The fan: 12 VDC @ 0.33A
And the B transformer is 9.5 Volts 0.55 A, instead 9V @ 0.33A sorry
I believe this is as simple as you are just creating a common ground, which probably increases the voltage.. that is my guess.
It isn't a good idea to hook up two different voltages in parallel. There isn't any free energy that you can get from this.
This site may help: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-24.htm
Also look up "common ground" and "floating ground"
Jason
Magnethos,
What kind of mains are you connecting to? 230VAC or 110VAC system?
Groundloop.
Quote from: Groundloop on October 12, 2008, 01:41:23 AM
Magnethos,
What kind of mains are you connecting to? 230VAC or 110VAC system?
Groundloop.
Here in Europe, the main is 230V 50-60Hz
Quote from: 4Tesla on October 12, 2008, 01:33:19 AM
I believe this is as simple as you are just creating a common ground, which probably increases the voltage.. that is my guess.
It isn't a good idea to hook up two different voltages in parallel. There isn't any free energy that you can get from this.
This site may help: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-24.htm
Also look up "common ground" and "floating ground"
Jason
Thanks for the link, I'm starting reading it now.
But my question is..
Why the effect I have seen only happens when the red wire from the 24V@0.29A is disconnected?
If I connect the red wire to the fan together with the red wire of the 9.5V@0.55A the effect DOESN'T happens
When I connect 2 Red Wires + 2 Black Wires, the fan DOESN'T increases the speed. The fan only increases the speed when I connect 1 Red Wire + 2 Black Wires. I think if the second red wire is not connected, is impossible (IN THEORY) to get energy from the second wall transformer, so IN THEORY only the first wall transformer is drawing energy to the fan. So, Why the fan increases the speed when I disconnect the second red wire? If I connect the second red wire the effect doesn't happens.
Can you explain me why?
Correction, sorry:
Why the effect I have seen only happens when the red wire from the 24V@0.29A is disconnected?
If I connect the red wire of the 24V@0.29A to the fan together with the red wire of the 9.5V@0.55A the effect DOESN'T happens
Visual Explanation
@4Tesla
I'm reading little by little your link and I'm learning, thanks. But...
Look at the pictures:
All the experiment that you can see are made using a dipole connection for each one battery. In my experiment I have a dipole connection + monopole connection. Of course, your link has been very usefull for better understand batteries, but it doesn't answers my question (all experiment use a dipole connection).
@All
Strange batteries, are not a monopole connection. Strange batteries in the pictures means DAMAGED batteries.
Quote from: Magnethos on October 11, 2008, 07:11:36 PM
The fan: 12 VDC @ 0.33A
And the B transformer is 9.5 Volts 0.55 A, instead 9V @ 0.33A sorry
The output voltages (from Supply Plugs)
is it DC (VDC)
or AC (VAC)
this must be very different in the application....
but in both way , very suspect
GP
Quote from: pese on October 12, 2008, 08:31:21 AM
The output voltages (from Supply Plugs)
is it DC (VDC)
or AC (VAC)
this must be very different in the application....
but in both way , very suspect
GP
Sorry, I didn't show all the information
Wall Adapter 1: Input 230VAC 50-60HZ Output 9.5V @ 0.55A
Wall Adapter 2: Input 230VAC 50-60Hz Output 24V @ 0.29A
Here you have the 2 adapters:
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(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg291.imageshack.us%2Fimg291%2F1520%2Fpa120019mm1.th.jpg&hash=4ae6bf3efd2f0449cd2dfe90fffbebbb8fe3f715) (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pa120019mm1.jpg)
P.S I don't know if the 24 Volt is AC or DC.
seems to be AC?
uhmmm... >:( it seems that the fan doesn't works well...
Result: disinformation
It seems that the motor fan is broken. I get the same results using only the 2 wires from the wall adaptor 9.5V@0.55A. When I connect the third wire the system maintains the same speed. So... maybe the effect is because I have conditioned the fan motor changing the voltages or... I don't know.
Too much easy to be true ;)
I'm going to think in the next experiment...