Is it just me or has it occurred to anyone else that year after year we are basically just continuing blindly to repeat ourselves consistently with no end in sight?And that the most powerful people in the world are content to continue in this way,being satisfied with the system as it stands because they are perpetually benefitting from it?The priorities of the powerful people in the world have nothing to do with "people" other than how to exploit and extort endlessly without mercy.Each person born on this planet is inherently entitled to an average quality of life that should only be affected by the limitations of geography and weather conditions.It is the imbalance of this average that accounts for all the suffering and poverty in the world.Simply put,your life is not important because you are the ignorant,purposeless "sheep" and history shows that when asked to do so you will lay down your life in the name of whatever idealistic institution you have been presented with...the end result( your death)is prophetically inconsequential to the end result which is profit by death,arms sales,oil for war,war for oil,terrorism(which by the way is withing the mind more-so than it is within the world)drug addiction and many others.The only way to overcome this inertia is to overcome the fear and hate which is taught to us by the illusive "them".
No matter what the world wants change, you always find people who are strongly opposed
GP
christo4_99
Many people feel like you. Me included. A lot of people do not have clue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czR_YuWZKRE&feature=related
I found this very interesting. There is something you can do.
http://www.nomorehoaxes.com/content/view/22/1/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spfg/
if there is a God he is definitely not limited by the notions and concepts which people have ascribed to him.the tendency for people to shrink everything down to the limit of comprehensibility is the basic error of the human race...it is absurd to pretend or imagine that God has a plan that could not instantly manifest itself without even the slightest human intervention...it is man's exaltation of himself above this creation that hints of the same type of arrogance that's implied in the biblical story of the fall of Lucifer.
Great points Christo4,
Most people haven't the fortitude to consider the truth. At least on the scale that demands lifestyle change. When one sees that the movers and shakers of this world are governed by the devil....it can be disconcerting in the extreme.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
Yet that is exactly what has happened, just as prophesied in the Holy Scriptures. The world is being 'governed' by a coven of highly compromised individuals that seem 'hellbent' on it's destruction.
The way I figure it is....if the Good book can be so accurate thousands of years in advance, why should we disbelieve the promise made by Yeshua, that He will return with the Angels and set things straight? Afterall, life is a test. A test to see who will remain loyal to his creator, thereby securing a place in a perfect Kingdom....
And who will prefer betrayal....even to self. Look around you at the staggering number of individuals who have ended up as paralyzed hosts to the worst kind of parasites. Playing the 'mystified traitor' to their own souls. What will it take to snap these zombies out of their stupor, and will it then be too late?
Time will tell.
Peace,
TS
Over Unity and Gravity Wave Propulsion are the key to changing world !!
Really!
http://www.rense.com/general54/babalc.htm
Well, considering that TPTB have had access to such technology for quite some time and the world is in a 'hell' of a mess, it seems that the old addage: "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"
Has been thoroughly proven correct.
Tesla knew this eventuality and wrote about it in his diary. Accurate observations.
The Bible records that man, in the latter part of the days, would take dominion over the air, knowledge flying over the earth to and fro.....
It even records that the 'beast' whom the world will wonder after, saying to themselves, "Who can wage war with it?" will try and fight Christ and the Angels when He returns!
Imagine that! an army of thoroughly mislead 'hellboys', governed by devil worshippers with 'exotic' technology.......
Meeting up with a perfect army led by Christ, who is wielding the truly impressive kind of power!
No. technology won't change the world for the better.....it is under control of power mongers, demon possessed minions of the devil.....as admitted from their own arrogant mouths:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
Anyone who thinks technology will save mankind is setting themselves up for a strong delusion....and will fall for the prophesied 'deception' of the antiChrist, as foretold in the Holy Scriptures.
He who gives up his faith for trinkets....will live to regret his cowardice.
"This means life, their taking in knowledge of Yahweh, the One true God, and the one He sent forth, Yeshua, Jesus Christ".
Blessings,
TS
Some of you are missing the point...i do not mean to say that religion is the solution...i mean to say that religion is a big part of the problem...the reference to Lucifer above was just a poke at humanity for thinking so highly of itself.Hubble deep field images contain 4000 galaxies in as little as 1 square inch of "space image"...there is other life out there...but religion has the focus of the creator narrowed down to us and in some cases like Islam and Christianity further narrowed to specific "groups".These are attempts to raise one man above another no better than many money schemes,malitias,sects and movements .In the view of an all powerful God if there is a test,certainly it has something to do with true human nature.And true human nature is simple at maturity...we want to live in peace and raise our children with a quality of life that surpasses our own.Is this the way the world is going?
Ah....but whose teachings are more befitting of those we would recognize as more advanced than ourselves and are they believable?
Christ informed us that in the latter part of the days, a cabal of devil worshippers would run the planet. They would take for themselves the sign of 666 (which is solomon's seal). They take dominion over the skies. They who make up the beast would be able to 'call down fire from heaven'....weather modification.
The beast currently fits this description and more, to the letter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewcommentary.php?storyid=156
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html
http://www.hornes.org/theologia/mark-horne/what-is-the-worth-of-666-talents-of-gold
http://www.missiontoisrael.org/ishmael,edom,israel.php
Those who do not remember the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them.
As for me, the Holy Bible is the only book that measures up, it's prophecies infallible.
Christ gave up His earthly life freely, Setting the perfect example of true love. It's one thing to say you want peace, and there is no shortage of those who would take life to 'defend' their beliefs. Many as well, are willing to give up their lives in warfare to 'defend' ideals.
Christ walked the walk. He LIVED for his beliefs so that we can try and do the same.
He truly IS the Prince of Peace.
Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ,
TS
you're still missing the point...the masters of this world are human and they don't owe anything to anyone including the devil...
By that statement you imply then, that you are an evolutionist?
Regardless, many will see the facts and understand that the Bible's prophecies are being fulfilled as promised.
http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/the-case-for-christ.htm
Blessings in Christ,
TS
evolutionist?well...that would imply that I'm on one side or the other.I am a realitiest.All your beliefs are based on a doctine that implies racism and have somehow has been rewritten(by Constantine and the Roman Catholics among others) to include all people and all nations.You see divides where there are none.You see devils that you've only read about.One thing i want you to do before you post again: Look up Egyptian mythology and find the name of the deity that owned the tree of life,then look up the(type of) tree itself and realize that it was an anti drug campaign of it's day.If you can't see the similarities between the story of Adam(Atum) and Eve and the Garden of Eden(Heliopolis) then you are blind.Eastern religion was developed by the Egyptians and serves as a template for almost all other eastern religion.People just believe all this stuff without knowing the factual history behind it all.You ave to realise that these people(Jews)didn't start out with one God...nor did they interact with one God from the beginning.Eli was the first God all others under him and Jehovah was somewhere beneath him.They picked the God of Mercy because that is what they wanted the most.As it is today it has always been...God does not choose people...people choose God and pray to him usually concerning their own needs...and people pray for Gods will to be done as if there is some slight chance that it will not be done.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(god)
QuoteYou see devils that you've only read about
You talk about that which
you know not. I've found during my short years on this planet, that speaking about that which one does not know, usually invites correction, in one form or another, on such matters.
I've seen my share of evil and then some. Up close and personal like. I've also personally witnessed people speaking normally, suddenly overtaken, speaking with a vile, or robotic voice, not their own, declaring their name when aksed, to be something evil. The person then, let go, is unaware at all of anything having happened. Most often they cannot be convinced it occurred at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
http://www.texemarrs.com/121997/devil_companies_devil_logos.htm
http://www.driverguide.com/boards/lucent/222.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_PAqT2JZOw
http://www.luciferlighting.com/
http://millar.bio.ed.ac.uk/lucifer.html
It's considered 'hip' now to be associated with the devil. Institiutions of 'higher' learning naming chemicals after their god. One can Google: lucifer companies to see a broad array of those businesses declaring their allegiance. There is a bank in Omaha Nebraska, simply called, "The mark". A curious logo out front. Drive by your local masonic lodge to see the 'signs' of devil allegiance proudly displayed.
http://www.trosch.org/for/masonic-sym.html
http://www.symbols.net/masonic/
That video in the first link is one of many declaring open allegiance to the devil. You, Christo4, can avoid the ocean of facts that clearly demonstrate that devil worshippers, as foretold, are taking charge of this world. It's not hard for anyone to live inside the bubble of their own manufactured reality.....at least for the moment. In the end, the middle of the road, the top of the fence, one's head in the sand....invite a bruising to the hind quarters, in the least.
Christ said: "My people are killed for a lack of knowledge". Many do not allow themselves to see the truth, preferring to live a lie as long as possible. Such condition will change, horribly, for too many, as they wait too long to open their eyes. Our Father will not host cowards in His Kingdom. Cowards become traitors, traitors start wars.
The bible declares that the beast would rule for one hour. A short duration....before the end comes fittingly for the father of the lie and his entourage.
In the mean time for those interested:
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm
http://www.wyattmuseum.com/cities-of-the-plain.htm
http://www.wyattmuseum.com/noahs-ark.htm
God's Hand once moved mightily on this earth, it still does for His children. Also, we are promised that, once again, His Hand will move.....and even more mightily against the wicked. And what is wickedness? It is weakness, continually practiced. Institutionalized. If however, one repents and strives to right oneself when stumbling in weakness, He will avoid meeting the left Hand of God and stay at God's right hand.
For those really interested in studying these truths in depth:
http://www.hisremnant.org/eby/articles/kingdom/twohands/twohandsof.html
There is much wisdom shared therein.
Yahweh is Great indeed, and He will have us thoroughly tested, if we are to replace the fallen ones as perfect angelic beings in a perfect reality we cannot currently comprehend!
Blessings,
TS
It will be commanded and gradual, slowly. I belive
Quote from: TechStuf on October 18, 2008, 02:25:20 PMYou, Christo4, can avoid the ocean of facts that clearly demonstrate that devil worshippers, as foretold, are taking charge of this world.
and i can also compare people to sheep who due to the fear of the proverbial wolf real or imagined find refuge in lies even to their own demise...you are riding the wave of history,powerless and weak and yourself unrealized.how many of the same mind can fall with so many bodies?anything new to say?i say to you,i,the doubtful one you think you know,i will be less surprised and more relieved if your savior shows up than even you will...but the fact that a man can be struck down and killed in warfare says nothing of whether he is right or wrong it shows that he was simply not very valueable to his master.
Ah, truer colors appear before us....
One seems comfortable in hiding from God's existence until the facts are clearly demonstrated that Yahweh's declared enemies, themselves, exist in growing abundance.
Prospective presidential bodyguards are tested by surprise well before ever being allowed to take the post. This is sometimes accomplished via a contrived scenario involving fake attack using guns' firing blanks. To test the instinctive reaction of the prospective security professional. They want to see what they are made of. Will they jump away, caring most for self, or jump in front, offering their lives for another? As a former USAF trained special weapons security specialist, I can vouch that such tests do occur.
It is arrogant, I believe, to assume that before Yahweh allows His earthly children into a greater Kingdom, as much more powerful beings, He would not first test them down here? Afterall, if some of us are to replace the fallen ones, who've corrupted themselves and a great many humans as well, would He not first want to know exactly what He was getting?
Let's face it, we can only imagine what war on a heavenly scale must have been like, but 1/3 were thrown down here knowing they have but little time to accomplish their desperate goals.
Yeshua, Jesus Christ does not 'throw us away' because He deems us of no value as satan would have us believe....we are tested to see if we care more about our Maker, our Master, our brothers and sisters, than ourselves.
If so, we are proven fit to live as we were originally meant to live, forever in a most amazing, perfect Kingdom.
"No greater love an a man have, than to lay down his life for a friend."
Also, I've noticed that there appear two groups on the matter of the 'sheep' you mention. Those content to be the sheep of our Shepherd, Yeshua, and those who consider them nothing more than dumb animals to be abused or slaughtered. I think you underestimate the meek, the 'sheep'. It will take greater courage to remain harmless in the days directly ahead, than to capitulate to thuggery and violence.
The antiChrists use the term, 'goyim' (cattle) I believe, in describing we meek sheeplike ones.
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
Me, I'm content to be a 'sheep' of the kind you carelessly deride, the true battle is for the soul and has been being waged for thousands of years now. Perhaps you were unaware that Yahweh, after our test is complete, will gather us all together and then separate us, Sheep to His right and the goats to His left.
I'd rather be Right than, left.
Blessings,
TS
i can no more prove that there is no god than you can prove that there is one...you're a pest dude...right or wrong...you need to find a group of people who want to listen to your stuff...it comes down to this...i do not trust blindly the people of the past...they have been found to be ignorant to many realities,superstitious and racist.
Quoteyou're a pest dude...right or wrong...you need to find a group of people who want to listen to your stuff
As of yet, I've only heard such an unsurprising accusation as you now espouse, from yourself. But have no fear, I'm not here to call down a plague on Stefan's fine forum. My points are, I believe, well supported by the evidence. These seeds of truth would neither need, nor appreciate, me hanging around to water them to death. They will grow when and where God sees fit.
Quotei do not trust blindly the people of the past
Then close your eyes and stear clear of all the URLs I posted above, for in them, those "people of the past" parade on full display, revealed for what they are.
I'm not a big fan of blind trust myself.
But then, I've seen alot.
Blessings in Yeshua,
TS
Quote from: TechStuf on October 18, 2008, 06:13:46 PMBut have no fear, I'm not here to call down a plague on Stefan's fine forum.
Is your real name Moses or Underdog by chance?I would think that an advocate of free energy would take a more scientific approach to the world.These people you attained your beliefs from were basically astrologer and the fall of Lucifer was the disappearance of the Morning Star below the horizon.I will agree with you that the most powerful people in this world worship something,but it's not Lucifer...it is however not unlike the story of the fall of Lucifer in which Lucifer exhalted himself above all creation and the creator himself.What if the responsibility for saving mankind was somehow shifted to mankind itself instead of copping out on it like the Christians,Muslims and others and giving the burden to the " Messiah" ...well as for the Christians maybe their savior too(as their land) will be granted them from Great Britain.
QuoteI would think that an advocate of free energy would take a more scientific approach to the world
I've never been that big on sciential protocols and procedure, but then, I've never needed to, really. That's not to say that I proclaim superiority over those who prefer that method of finding answers.
QuoteI will agree with you that the most powerful people in this world worship something,but it's not Lucifer
Yeah....sure it aint. The worship lucifer and numerous other false gods.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_PAqT2JZOw
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html
QuoteWhat if the responsibility for saving mankind was somehow shifted to mankind itself instead of copping out on it like the Christians,Muslims and others
Speaking of copping out, I noticed you derided Christians and Muslims but conveniently lumped the devil worshipping zionists, masons, and other power mongering occultists who are the main instigators in the end of this age:
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6f4Ede9EiY&feature=related
in with 'others', maybe this was unintentional.
Masons & Zionist counterfeit Israel. One rules the other, the devil rules them both, and they all seek to rule the world, and turn it into an orgy of evil.
Like it or not, believe it or not, the Bible has proven to be most accurate in warning us that the a world wide empire of devil worshippers, bearing the 666 mark of the fallen solomon, would rule for one 'hour', before Yeshua arrives in the heavens with His army.
They realize their time is short....and may Yahweh shorten those days even more, by sending Yeshua, Prince of Peace, soon
Blessings in Yeshua,
TS
Your religious overtones expose you as just another racist(or separatist) or just a fool...after all,we are all human,some can be played(deceived) easier than others.I challenge you to leave the comfort of your learned stance and the illusion of safety and sovereignty that you cradle yourself in and consider the truth whatever it might be.Instead of just pretending that you "know" anything.Isn't it peculiar that out of all the religions of the world that would have promoted peace Islam and Christianity are the most promoted of them all.I wonder why.Could it be because within each one although the law(the sheep's clothing)clearly condemns murder it also gives a way to immunity for it's followers(the wolf) who commit murder.Imagine that: a built in loophole for the perpatration of a most unforgivable crime.
Another remark to you sir since you seem to be most attentive to this thread.I kinda like the(evolutionist) idea of a lot of humans beings back in the day...since incest leads to birth defects.After all isn't that what "really" took out the Egyptians?My bad:that was Alexander the Great.
I've made my case, neither undertones nor overtones required. I supplied numerous obvious and verifiable facts to support my observations. Of course, as one may find, there are myriad more examples of the Truth to be found as well.
End of discussion.
Blessings to all of you dear readers, in Yeshua, Jesus Christ
TS
we build for ourselves comfort zones whether borrowed,learned or otherwise...just so happens that man's comfort zone has become a blind allegiance to a past based on ignorance and superstition...a song by Creed comes to mind..."my own prison",however comfortable prison that it is...who in this time is genuinely himself when everything that we think we know has been so gracefully handed to us on the proverbial silver platter?it is my fear that in the attempt to be genuine we have only blinded ourselves to the truth,certainly sheltered ourselves from it...accepting someone else's truth as our own individually one by one and thereby losing our power as individuals.this is the travesty and potentially fatal trend of man that i speak of.
if we must covet(and it seems we must) i suggest we learn to covet peace,the virtually perpetual energy of the sun and technology,not in the present state in which it is incrementally handed to us for quarterly profits but in a state in which all nations unite to,fund(blank check) and advance the energy technologies to a point where it will benefit the world now and in the future.If we advance the technologies to a point where they can be called "advanced" before we implement them then we have overcame the hurdle of obsolete year old technologies and the inherent problem of disposal and placement of "newer" technologies.
Steven Greer's AERO and Orion Project: sincere effort to usher in free energy or eloquent intel. front
Steven Greer, the chairman of The Disclosure Project, the organization founded in the early ninety nineties to disclose the presence of extraterrestrials and government suppression of evidence regarding the matter has taken on a newer, more daring escapade. This time, disclosing free energy technology to the world by presenting a robust , functional, closed loop, multiple kilowatt free energy device to the world, in tandem with a myriad of free energy inventors and a network of elite celebrities who are determined to see clean abundant alternatives into to the light. All this will be presented at a conference at the
National Press Club, in the same fashion as his famed 01 conference. The idea is to reach hundreds of millions, to make them aware that there are more clean alternatives than wind , geothermal and solar. He has stated that he is working on having a demonstrator unit built and have it be duplicated and verified by at least three independent sources. So, we assume that there are no robust units available in the public domain and that this is the obstacle to the grand press conference. He founded two organizations in this light- a non profit- Orion Project- to develop technology and a standard company- AERO(Advanced Energy Research Organization) for marketing. In addition to this, he has asked for the public to donate three million dollars for a research facility. He states repeatedly through radio talk shows and visual presentations that all free energy inventors needs to work with him because that's the only way they can get around the ardent suppression of the last 100 years. The suppression is without doubt but the fact of the matter is that there are numerous free energy machines in the public domain, robust , multiple kilowatt. They are few and far between , but the holders of these units would be more than happy to give Greer a unit if they believed he was sincere. Greer does not have to have it build and some have been on record for multiple decades and their validity is incontrovertible, already verified and either ready for production as is or on the
brink of it. It is doubtful that he is not aware of:
1. testatika 3kw self running, harnessing electrostatic energy, multiple units, ranging from 300 watts to 30 kilowatts have been running Meternitha ,Switzerland for the last 30 years
2. bedini generator 10kw, runs John Bedini's workshop lights, New Energy Series dvds
3. newman generator - has been on record for 20 years , validated by 40 professionals, Joe Newman appeared on johnny Carson, and given wide media coverage, has videos on google video showing his machines work
4. Daniel Dingel water cars, on record since 1968, has multiple cars running on water for everyday driving and farm work, Daniel Dingel is not dead and his cars, which exist today are as functional as anything Stan Meyer came up with.
Based of of his cozy relationship with people like the Rockefellers( the illuminati) and his lack of action as far the obvious is concerned, it must be looked upon as a likely possibility that whole affair may be nothing but a trojan hose, keeping tracks on inventors and keeping them from attempting anything on their own.this is not a novel concept, the Noetics Institute of Edgar mitchell is just that. On the other hand , free energy is not intangible such as aliens, and we are at the cusp of a totalitarian police state- the new world order- and free energy would disrupt that
i call upon governing members of the free energy movement, such as Sterling d Allan and Tom Beardan to look into this affair because something stinks