the zero point energy molecule !
copper atom collects/stores positive charge.
iron atom collects/stores negative charge.
polymer MAGNETICALLY connects copper and iron.
but ELECTRICALLY disconnects them.
so that coper/iron may charge up, but not short each other out.
two ZPE molecules connected in parallel, increases amperage.
two ZPE molecules connected in series, increases voltage.
if you place a stick of copper,
and a stick of steel,
into a cup of elmers school glue,
than EVERY ATOM on the surface of the copper/steel, counts as a ZPE molecule!
but since the above ZPE molecules are connected in PARALLEL, only amperage stacks!
while voltage stays the same.
that is why i get mroe amperage, for more metal surface area. yet nothing, for more metal mass.
what someone NEEDS to do, is make a crystal lattice.
where each molecule in the crystal lattice, has 1 copper, one iron, held apart by a third atom.
(carbon or silicon?)
to melt glass, ancient people just built a brick/stone oven, and fed fule into it.
the heat built up inside the oven, just like electricity builds up in a capacitor.
until there was enough stored heat in the oven, to melt silicon dioxide into glass.
Wouldn't this require sophisticated nano-engineering to get the atoms arranged in specific lattices. Further more, should the bonds between Fe and Cu and the third element or compound also be considered, especially that "binding" compound and its effect on either of the two other elements.
I guess without knowing exactly how the lattice needs to be arranged, a first step would be to achieve any kind of lattice connection (if at all possible). My guess is that they might not form right angles to begin with, would they?
no nanoengineering required.
the copper and iron in one molecule, must NEVER touch.
yet ironically, it makes no difference if the metal atom of one unit, touches the metal atom of the unit beside it.
like this:
copper-glue-iron-copper-glue-iron-copper-glue-iron-copper-glue-iron
also. if even one ZPE molecule is formed, than all the other atoms will conduct its electrical charge.
the other atoms WILL NOT short out that one ZPE molecule that does work.
the covalent bonds between the atoms, seem to conduct magnetic energy. allowing this to work.
it is THE ATOMS, which conduct electricity.
if you throw copper powder, iron powder, and the neutral element into a cup, and heated it into a crystla lattice, than atleast SOME of those elements would form ZPE molecules.
and as long as those ZPE molecules had a magnetic path to the positive and negative terminals, they would charge up the positive and negative terminals.
in this case, the positive terminal might be a stick of pure copper, and the negative terminal might be a stock of pure steel.
terminal terminal
+ -
(COPPER)-useless-ZPE-useless-useless-ZPE-(STEEL)
It seems you've read your Leedskalnin. Now, as for the ZPE molecule being the savior of mankind.....are you referring to that knowledge already long in exploitation by the powers that be? Or via some maverick implementation going up against those same powers and their techno toys?
I've seen what they're capable of, and the world truly wonders after the beast, saying, "Who can wage war with it?"
It will take THE God to reckon with these arrogant fools, with too much power in their hands. Of course, they certainly aren't above staging a good comeuppance, sacrificing some of their own along with many of the useless eater types in order to render a fresh, renewed appearance of planetary cleansing.
That's how they always do it. Cause chaos and destruction, swoop in and provide apparent solution so that the masses will swallow whatever they choose to provide.
Our puny efforts at sharing greater freedom from energy cartels, should they prove even marginally successful, would only serve to speed up their demonic timetable....
Yeshua has got it all handled.....
Wait and see. You won't be disappointed.
Or don't, to each his own.
God bless,
TS
But that is the dilemma, how to find where these ZPE compound atoms are, and how to create proper terminals between all of them.
Also, how do you know which direction the charge will take place as to oriented the positive or the negative terminals. Or are you saying that the ZPE compounded atoms will self-orient, but then how do you determine why and which way?
nitinnun
I just checked a glue cell I made months ago .
It is as hard as a rock now but still putting out a little power .
I just shorted it out ......I will check it in a few days . If it recharges itself after being shorted out a few days then I would say that it is as good or better than anything on the crystal cell thread.
As far as your ZPE idea .
Arn't you trying to use atoms in both series and parallel ?
What works on a small scale might work on a larger scale.
Why not make a glue cell ZPE?
Just change the word atom with layer in your description .
It would be like a multicell glue cell
It would have alternating layers of copper sheet and sheet metal
with a dialectric saturated with glue, maybe cotton or plastic mesh .
The each layer would be isolated from all other layers.
The only layers that would have electrical contact would be the top and bottom layers.
gary
Quote from: amigo on October 17, 2008, 10:28:21 PM
But that is the dilemma, how to find where these ZPE compound atoms are, and how to create proper terminals between all of them.
Also, how do you know which direction the charge will take place as to oriented the positive or the negative terminals. Or are you saying that the ZPE compounded atoms will self-orient, but then how do you determine why and which way?
you do not need all of the atoms, to configure into ZPE molecules.
it doesn't take many of them, to create a lot of electricity.
the copper/iron/polymer atoms that DO NOT form into ZPE cells,
should still conduct the power generated by those that do,
to the terminals.
the clockwise spin (positive),
collected/generated/whatever by the copper atoms,
is attracted to the steel terminal (negative).
the counter-clockwise spin (negative),
collected/generated/whatever by the iron atoms,
is attracted to the copper terminal (positive).
because of this, the copper terminal will always be positively charged,
and the steel terminal will always be negatively charged,
no matter which direction the ZPE molecules, are facing.
i just realized the ZPE molecule tonight.
so i havn't had any time to come up with molecular-level applications.
but the above, is what i want to focus on next.
elmers school glue, is just a polymer.
like this:
H H H H H H H H H H
I I I I I I I I I I
X-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-X
I I I I I I I I I I
H H H H H H H H H H
there is an unbroken chain of COVALENT BONDS, between the carbon atoms.
this unbroken "covalent bond chain", conducts magnetic energy between the 2 metals.
yet this polymers "electrical resistance" is so high, that ELECTRICITY cannot flow from one metal to the other metal.
the polymers "magnetic conductance", allows the 2 metals to charge up.
yet the polymers "electrical resistance", prevents the 2 metals from shorting out each others charge.
the keys to a working ZPE molecule, are:
* the "chemcial elements" in the crystal lattice.
* good "magnetic conduction", through the "covalent bond chain".
* an "electrical resistance" in the lattice,
that is stronger than the electrical build up in the metal terminals.
heating things, then cooling them in cold water, causes them to crystalize.
a crystal lattice made of covalent bonds, is what we want.
maybe if someone built a small brick oven, melted copper powder, steel powder, and fine grain sand, then dunked it into a bucket of water?
.......the irons atoms magnetic field,
is conducted through the "covalent bond chain" of the polymer/glue.
the iron atoms magnetic field, then "interacts" with the copper atoms diamagnetic field?
how does the "electron magnetic field" of the iron atom,
interact with the "diamagnetic field" of the copper atom??????????
kosol ouch said something about this.
but i think he used a powerful magnetic field from a sinoid coil,
to interact with bismuths strong diamagnetic field?
bismuth works much better than copper.
......the copper atom has more "etheric pressure", than the iron atom?
so the coppers higher ether pressure, is conducted through the polymer/glues covalent bonds, into the iron atom?
is the coppers diamagnetism, and the irons ferromagnetism, related to etheric pressure????
This sounds like a perfect candidate for Chemical Vapor Deposition...
substrate material
-insulative material
--Copper layer
---polymer layer
--Iron layer
-insulative material
proper planning of precursors allow the lattice match and x-ray diffractometry would help to fine tune it...
I used to use epitaxial metal oxide chemical vapor deposition to grow laser diodes on indium wafers back when I had my "cool job" @ Lucent. Only problem is the prohibitive cost of the required reactors and maintaining the precursors @-15 degrees in pure ethylene glycol chillers...
I always wondered if there was a cheaper low tech way to create laminates like that in a home lab setup... electrodeposition?
glass would be a cheap substrate material...
Well hot damn, if we need orbital 0-G vacuum environment to build this then might as well keep using NiMh batteries. :)
Otherwise with all the descriptions given, this looks to me like a fancy capacitors that does not need charging from outside. We have tow plates (Fe and Cu) and a dielectric in-between. The dielectric prohibits electrical contact (short) but allows magnetic coupling...
Hypersoniq, you had a "cool job" at lucent?
http://www.driverguide.com/boards/lucent/222.html
http://www.texemarrs.com/121997/devil_companies_devil_logos.htm
I heard there were only 'hot' jobs there. That cwhoreporation, like many, is run by these types:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
At any rate, God bless,
TS
I had a moderately good paying job for all of 7 months >:(
I got in right before the layoffs happened...
right after they broke our division off as "agere"
no doubt an evil corp. 5,000+ lay offs in my plant alone! (Jobs gone and machinery exported to china)
the big red lucent "O" was referred by many as the "flaming arsehole"
But those 7 months were awesome with regards to exposure to technology I have never even heard of!
My job required me to learn these new technologies just enough to support operators and deal with engineers. The bunny suits really lended to that otherworld experience... I really wonder when some of those ideas came from because a few of the reactors were 20+ years old! They had German DOS systems on them. I was studying electronics theory to pass the test I needed to get moved into a "trades" position of electronic tech (big bucks) when the layoff was announced...
Now I operate and program wireEDM machines... cool in their own right (they tout "electrolysis suppression circuitry" in their brochires for these machines). I do miss the other job though, I learned something new every day, but not in depth enough to apply it (yet)... and the pay is a giant leap BACKWARD! 99% of corps are evil, some flaunt it more than others.
Interesting past you've had....
Yahweh bless you in all that you choose to pursue!
Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ,
TS
the thing i really need to know right now, is:
"how does the iron atoms magnetic field, interact with the copper atoms diamagnetic field?"
i feel that this is a VERY important question.
but where am i to find a straight answer?
(kosol organizes his words about as well as dad organized the junk in the garage.
it is almost impossible to gain intuitive insights from kosols words, because they are so incoherant.)
Hi Nitinnum,
Love your work, here is a thought I had that may help:
Maybe you could make colloidal solutions of copper and iron. As you probably already know, colloidal solutions are monoatomic bits of the metal floating around in water. Not clumps but individual atoms just floating around!
You can make a metal colloid easily at home, I like making colloidal silver it is a great antibiotic for topical and local use, the same method can be used for making any metal colloid:
Copper colloid example:
Get distilled water (pure as you can get) and put pure copper anode and copper cathode in, then pass through small current for a long time. Best to use constant current source as solution resistance drops over time, you dont want heat or gassing. I use constant 1mA for fully immersed 2inch long electrodes.
Mix your colloids up well, mix for an hour or two using small motor and stirrer.
Then evaporate down slowly until concentrated. You can measure the resistance of the solution, obviously drops as it gets more concentrated.
Then add a little magic elmers :D to the colloid cocktail and mix well again.
Then wait for it to dry and watch as the power rises, careful not to get a meltdown! ;D
Maybe you could do other tricks with the colloids like making individual elmers solutions and then misting alternate fine layers onto copper plate, waiting to dry between layers, then finishing the stack with an iron plate?
Best, Yucca.
Yucca,
That is not a guaranteed way to make atomic colloids, far from it. Have you taken your CS to be imaged under TEM (Transmission Electron Microscope) and determine the actual particle size?
You will probably find out that your have lumps and not nanoscale particles as expected. The best effect you could possibly achieve with CS is by having 1-10nm size particles because then they are on the comparable scale as virii, plus on that size they act like antennas for Cosmic Energies as well. :D
There's some theory about wet electrode surface being used in connection with the applied current in the solution. Also, are you using straight wire or did you curve them into U shapes. They say that there should be no sharp edges and that U and coiled shapes work better than straight wire.
Either way I have built and experimented (and still am) with several different kinds of circuits, AC, DC, pulsed DC, solid-state Bedini, switching polarity. I am going to do a micro-controller version as well where it can monitor the conductance and adjust current/voltage. But all that is pointless without being able to actually determine particle size imho, and TEM access is expensive, $80/hr. :(
nitinnun,
I was thinking, perhaps induction heating could be used to bond the Fe and Cu together. Albeit you will need 1,500 C and your polymer buffer will have to fit that bill as well without decomposing in the process, perhaps graphite could be used. That is really an easy part and could be done in a home/shop environment, the bigger issue is whether this process needs has to be in a Vacuum or inert gas chamber. Oxidization that could ensue in presence of air is a concern that needs to be addressed before anything else. :)
the copper molecules do not have to be monatomic.
the more the copper is sepperated into individual atoms, the better it would work.
but clumps of 10 or 20 copper atoms, will greatly help.
because the more copper atom surface area, the better it works!
what i REALLY want to do, is use silicon in place of carbon.
to make something similar to this:
O
I
Cu-Si-Fe
this would form a crystal lattice. which would most likely have a very high electrical resistance.
yet would most likely still conduct "magnetism", though the "covalent bond chain" of the lattice.
allowing the crystal that this would make up, to work just like a glue cell.
.....i put 2 sticks of copper into an empty plastic glue bottle.
(there was some residual glue on the bottle)
i filled it most of the way with clean ground water.
(no chlorine or flouride-poison in this water!)
i hooked the 2 copper sticks up to a 9 volt battery. and left it that way for an hour or so.
i just checked it. and the water has turned a vived green color.
which tells me that lots of copper atoms have broken off into it.
i disconnected the 9 volt battery, and checked the multimeter.
this litte "monatomic copper vat", was holding voltage and amperage.
so i shorted out the 2 copper sticks for a few second, and checked again.
and the monatomiccopper vat, is recharging itself!
i think there might be a ZPE molecule-like reaction, between the copper atoms, carbon atoms, and the oxygen/hydrogen atoms in the water.
but i'm leaving the vat shorted out for awhile, to see how long it takes this living-dead recharge rate, to go away.
this is the atom allocation that i had in mind.
ironically, the electricity will not be able to travel through the glue, from one terminal to the other.
because the glues electrical resistance will be too high.
it will be the magentism that draws the metal atoms towards the terminals.
only the magnetism of the "charge-up electricity" will travel through the glue, from one terminal to the other.
Quote from: amigo on October 18, 2008, 09:25:39 PM
Yucca,
That is not a guaranteed way to make atomic colloids, far from it. Have you taken your CS to be imaged under TEM (Transmission Electron Microscope) and determine the actual particle size?
You will probably find out that your have lumps and not nanoscale particles as expected. The best effect you could possibly achieve with CS is by having 1-10nm size particles because then they are on the comparable scale as virii, plus on that size they act like antennas for Cosmic Energies as well. :D
There's some theory about wet electrode surface being used in connection with the applied current in the solution. Also, are you using straight wire or did you curve them into U shapes. They say that there should be no sharp edges and that U and coiled shapes work better than straight wire.
Either way I have built and experimented (and still am) with several different kinds of circuits, AC, DC, pulsed DC, solid-state Bedini, switching polarity. I am going to do a micro-controller version as well where it can monitor the conductance and adjust current/voltage. But all that is pointless without being able to actually determine particle size imho, and TEM access is expensive, $80/hr. :(
Thanks for the details Amigo,
I will definitely use U shaped electrodes next time I make. I have never had TEM analysis done, have looked under optical microscope and not seen clumps but that doesn't mean much. But I do know from several experiences that CS works wonders on bacterial infections. Can't speak for antiviral properties yet, I'm always worried about drinking the stuff because I don't want to wipe out my gut bacteria.
Yucca.
Quote from: nitinnun on October 18, 2008, 11:14:48 PM
.....i put 2 sticks of copper into an empty plastic glue bottle.
(there was some residual glue on the bottle)
i filled it most of the way with clean ground water.
(no chlorine or flouride-poison in this water!)
i hooked the 2 copper sticks up to a 9 volt battery. and left it that way for an hour or so.
i just checked it. and the water has turned a vived green color.
which tells me that lots of copper atoms have broken off into it.
i disconnected the 9 volt battery, and checked the multimeter.
this litte "monatomic copper vat", was holding voltage and amperage.
so i shorted out the 2 copper sticks for a few second, and checked again.
and the monatomiccopper vat, is recharging itself!
i think there might be a ZPE molecule-like reaction, between the copper atoms, carbon atoms, and the oxygen/hydrogen atoms in the water.
but i'm leaving the vat shorted out for awhile, to see how long it takes this living-dead recharge rate, to go away.
Nice result so far! What do you think is the purest form of copper, plumbing pipe or stripped wire? Or is there something purer?
Yucca.
the unsaturated fat from raw flax seed, kills bacteria, fungus, and parasites.
it dissolves saturated fat. just by eating it.
it is also very healthy for everycell in the body.
because every cell mebrane, is made of fat.
especially brain cells.
flax seeds unsaturated fat is good for your skin, hair, connective tissue, organs, mental acuity, and memory.
i soak a few hundred seeds in my mouth, with water.
after a few minutes, the unsaturated fat leaks out.
the result is like a healthy, slippery, chewing tobacco.
for hippies.
Quote from: Yucca on October 19, 2008, 05:28:02 AM
Thanks for the details Amigo,
I will definitely use U shaped electrodes next time I make. I have never had TEM analysis done, have looked under optical microscope and not seen clumps but that doesn't mean much. But I do know from several experiences that CS works wonders on bacterial infections. Can't speak for antiviral properties yet, I'm always worried about drinking the stuff because I don't want to wipe out my gut bacteria.
Yucca.
I have drank mine without any consequences. If you are afraid about good bacteria, just eat some pro-biotic yogurt later, although most people have an appendix and one of its roles apparently is to produce this bacteria...
I'd like to try an experiment and make CS using structured water, but not sure how to create structured water, though it would have to be distilled one which might beat the purpose of structuring it. Not really sure... :)
Quote from: nitinnun on October 18, 2008, 10:28:05 PM
what i REALLY want to do, is use silicon in place of carbon.
to make something similar to this:
O
I
Cu-Si-Fe
So what you really want is to sandwich the quartz/sand between a layer of copper and iron?
Would require some kind of stabilizer so that SiO2 does not dissolve in water, and probably would need to use something to bring the temperature down to melt sand to begin with.
Perhaps Brown's Gas could be used to melt all three, but then we are introducing oxygen into the compound which would oxidize the metals.
Quote from: amigo on October 19, 2008, 12:57:22 PM
I have drank mine without any consequences. If you are afraid about good bacteria, just eat some pro-biotic yogurt later, although most people have an appendix and one of its roles apparently is to produce this bacteria...
I'd like to try an experiment and make CS using structured water, but not sure how to create structured water, though it would have to be distilled one which might beat the purpose of structuring it. Not really sure... :)
I have read that water can contain many different types of structures, and that you can get it to form long chains, not with firm covalent bonds but kind of a loose holding together. When in this long chain polymer like state it is said to be more conducive to cellular processes. Is this the restructuring you are speaking of?
Yucca.
Quote from: Yucca on October 19, 2008, 05:01:43 PM
I have read that water can contain many different types of structures, and that you can get it to form long chains, not with firm covalent bonds but kind of a loose holding together. When in this long chain polymer like state it is said to be more conducive to cellular processes. Is this the restructuring you are speaking of?
Yucca.
I suppose so...I am not exactly sure myself because of all the various ways they claim they structure the water, I am not clear what is the ideal/best way of doing so, or correct one for that matter. Heck, by blessing the water it gets structured as well, the power of intent sufficiently changes the organization of molecules. But I would like to see it, be able to determine that it's structured vs. unstructured and methods of doing so are escaping me at the moment.
the best way to structure water?
if you place water into a strong DC magntic field, the 2 hydrogen atoms of one water molecule, form a hydrogen bond to the oxygen atom of another water molecule.
forming long strands of polarized water.
this is very similar to how i want to align the copper atoms and iron atoms.
by running electricity through the cell, when the cells contents are still melted.
i just realized something important!
i have 2 sticks of steel, sitting in water.
the resistance is a few k-ohm's.
when i charge the 2 sticks with a 9 volt battery, the resistance becomes so high, that it is unreadable!
when i remove the battery, the resistance becomes SEVERAL m-OHM'S!
and then SLOWLY drops back down to a few k-ohms!
polarized water has increased electrical resistance?Huh??
this is very important too me.
because an electrically resistant substance, allows my ZPE molecule to work.
i think the middle-substance would retain its electrical resistance, if its molecules hardened while in the polarized configuration.
john hutchison's cells cooled off while they were polarized by electricity.
so HIS middle substance would harden into the polarized configuration too!
when i used graphite powder instead of glue, there was a much lower resistance between the 2 terminals.
because graphite powder is a conductor.
the voltage was lower.
but the amperage was higher.
the graphite powder was NOT packed tightly. so i was surprised that the amperage was that high.
if lower electrical resistance means more amperage,
than i could get more amperage out of a ZPE cell, by adding conductors to the middle substance?
to sacrifice voltage, for more amperage?
here is my updated diagram.
if you add many copper/iron atoms, and mix the middle substance VERY well,
than SHEER PROBABILITY will place the copper/iron atoms, where they are useful.
then you charge up both terminals with electricity.
this polarizes the copper/iron atoms.
so that all of their positive poles are facing towards the negative terminal,
and all of their negative poles are facing towards the positive terminal.
this way, when the copper/iron atoms "harden" into "ZPE molecules", the ZPE molecules will send the right charge to the right terminal
this also causes the molecules in the middle substance, to harden into a pattern that increases electrical resistance.