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Title: Doug Konzen - Advanced Electric Pulse Motor
Post by: thornberry on December 06, 2008, 02:10:12 PM
Hello Guys,

Check this out ... found it via ... http://ohio-overunity.tripod.com/id1.html (http://ohio-overunity.tripod.com/id1.html)

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=lHpikCPKPiE (http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=lHpikCPKPiE)

Title: Re: Doug Konzen - Advanced Electric Pulse Motor
Post by: bw on December 06, 2008, 07:55:14 PM
looks like Doug Konzen could win the ou prize with that
Title: Re: Doug Konzen - Advanced Electric Pulse Motor
Post by: Ergo on December 07, 2008, 02:08:41 AM
The page starts off good, but when he claims the OU fake Lutec motor
as fully working it doesn't seem so serious anymore.
Then I discover the Order Page and this puts the final nail in the coffin.
Now I'm 100% sure of this guy being full of crap and just wants peoples money.
Beware of the free energy scamming artist, they come in hundreds at the time.
Title: Re: Doug Konzen - Advanced Electric Pulse Motor
Post by: khabe on December 07, 2008, 04:07:07 AM
Unbelievable !
Nonplus !!
He puts in to the drive motor 1V and gets out from gen 1.2V ... and he speaks "got out more power than put in" ... :o
Power ...  ::) ... ohh dear!   And he does not change color ???
Perhaps hes teacher by physics does ... :'(  ... in sheol ...
Everyone can try it with two similar brushless 3ph motors
12V battery  -> ESC(3ph) -> BLDC(1) --- on the same shaft --- BLDC(2) -> full bridge 3ph rectifier -> Voltmeter will show at least 18V dc ... even near 24V with NO LOAD of course.
If to use drive motor kV 1000 (1V/rpm) and second motor (gen) kV 5000 - then output voltage will be 5 times higher + multiply 1,75 coefficient because full bridge 3ph rectifier ...
with NO LOAD!!!
When to "replicate" this "original" set-up  much more smarter then output voltage could be even tens time higher -  even high voltage gould be get ...
but/and SO WHAT ???
OU ???
No !!!
Regards,
khabe
Title: Re: Doug Konzen - Advanced Electric Pulse Motor
Post by: Paul-R on December 07, 2008, 09:37:07 AM
How does it work? Is there a circuit diagram for those who believe videos
are a waste of time?
Paul.
Title: Re: Doug Konzen - Advanced Electric Pulse Motor
Post by: khabe on December 07, 2008, 06:10:01 PM
Measuring electrical power

   Measuring electrical power is very easy in principle and very difficult
in practice.  If the current and voltage going to a device never change
than the power input is simply current times voltage.  Both can be easily
measured with an accuracy of a percent or so.  Unfortunately, while supply
voltages, as from a battery, can be almost constant, currents vary rapidly
with time, particularly when you are driving a motor.  Most current meters
measure the mean value of the current.  This will only tell you the mean
power if the voltage is absolutely steady.

   If the voltage changes when the current changes, which it almost
certainly does, then measuring the mean current gives quite the wrong
value for the power.  What you have to do is to use a wattmeter.  This
multiplies the instantaneous voltage by the instantaneous current to get
the power and then averages the power to arrive at the mean value.
However, even accurate wattmeters can give spurious results if the current
contains very fast spikes.  The current into electric motors often does.

   Things get much more complicated when the power source is alternating
current (AC).  Then, even if the mean current and voltage are absolutely
constant the power can be changing.

   There are two ways of measuring AC voltages and currents.  Cheap meters
assume that the AC voltage is always a pure sine wave.  They turn it into
half cycles all in the same direction and measure the mean value.  Then
they apply a correction factor to convert this into a true voltage.  Since
the AC voltage is rarely a pure sine wave and AC current almost never is,
cheap meters are unreliable even when measuring voltage, much less power.
They only give reliable results if the load you are connected to is a pure
resistor such as an electric heater.

   The alternative is to use an RMS meter.  (Root Mean Square, it's a
description of the averaging method they use.)  This will give a correct
voltage or current reading unless there are spikes in the current.

   There are two standard ways of measuring current.  One is to pass the
current through a small resistor and to measure the voltage.  This is
potentially accurate but is prone to error in practice since the voltage
measured is usually in the millivolt range.  It is easy to pick up
interference or to include more resistance in the circuit than you mean
to.  The alternative is the "clip-on" ammeter.  This can also pick up
interference and may not be better than 5% accurate anyway.  Not all clip-
on meters can measure DC.

http://phact.org/e/z/freewire.htm
and much more interestings,
khabe
Title: Re: Doug Konzen - Advanced Electric Pulse Motor
Post by: 4Tesla on December 08, 2008, 03:28:49 AM
I can put 12V AC in a transformer and get 120V AC out.. hehe.. it must be OU!   ::) ;D j/k

Yep.. volts and power (watts) aren't the same.  ;)

Title: Re: Doug Konzen - Advanced Electric Pulse Motor
Post by: LarryC on December 08, 2008, 09:47:43 AM
Doug Konzen has been working on OU devices for quite a while, see http://www.geocities.com/koneheadx/ for some of his prior work.

He's an excellent builder and experimenter. So his video should not be taken so lightly, as I'm sure no one has to explain power measurement to him.

Regards, Larry
Title: Re: Doug Konzen - Advanced Electric Pulse Motor
Post by: khabe on December 08, 2008, 10:36:52 AM
Quote from: LarryC on December 08, 2008, 09:47:43 AM
Doug Konzen has been working on OU devices for quite a while, see http://www.geocities.com/koneheadx/ for some of his prior work.

He's an excellent builder and experimenter. So his video should not be taken so lightly, as I'm sure no one has to explain power measurement to him.

Regards, Larry

Many peoples have been working  much more a while on OU devised - up till today they do not know or not want to understand about correct power measurements.
When all measurements done by right way and correctly, then seems no one "investor"(pigeon) will be found  8)
Some this kind people even do not look for money - its just like autoerotism - like masturbation.
I can do it! ... Im Messias! ... I can tell you, my son ... ::)
and so one like apostolic blah,
cheers,
khabe