Hi, First post here. I tried to find the answers to these questions but after several days of looking, I am unable to satisfy myself. Any thoughts appreciated.
1. After viewing all the vids. as well as reading the FAQ's and the SM Compilation. I was wondering if the TPU demonstrated in the garage by SM was a first generation unit as it seems to be built a lot different than the units demonstrated to the group at the mansion. As I have read about the 3 coil stack type setup described by SM, it seems the garage location unit was not made that way.? Just wondering which design to pursue.
2. In all that I have come across here at this TPU forum, it has convinced me that shielding of unit during testing is essential towards a safer and happier life. Soo. What would the reason be that all units showed and demonstrated on the SM vids. do not seem to require this shielding or bother anybody during operation.? Is there no RF emissions of these units? Even the vid cameras seemed to work well when near these operating units with no apparent vid loss. What really surprised me was the lack of interference during the arc demonstration. :-\
3. Has anyone preformed the suggestions by SM as to the rotating magnetic field and at what freq. that it may change.
4. It seemed to me that the SM compilation was pretty sure of the 3 coil stack setup. Has this been actually tried by anyone yet?
Answers to these questions will help in my research of these amazing units. It will be a while yet before I build as I still need to read the Tesla book mentioned by SM as well as researching a bit more about the tv tubes mentioned. Thanks again. :) sg56k
Ask this guy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ubowHAgq4&feature=related
:o
cheers,
khabe
Quote from: khabe on December 11, 2008, 06:12:20 PM
Ask this guy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ubowHAgq4&feature=related
:o
cheers,
khabe
You're kidding right? ??? :D
get a pic of his coil
20 mhz to 25 mhz seams extreamly high freq for the size of the ring .......
id think it is a much lower freq but i do not know 100 percent ......YET..... :)
gk 25 mhz sound correct? ??? ???
perhaps this is his fly off freq?
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Hmm.? Guess I was hoping for something more. ???
???Soo , I have so far had 220 views on my questions, and it would seem the ??'s are of little interest. Is that about right? I thought, yea, these are pretty relevant things to think about to accurately diagnose what it is we are all here trying to replicate. Yes? Or maybe these questions are to stupid or something to bother answering. I can live with that. Input? sg56k :)
There are plenty of opinions on all of your questions. I'll supply mine....
Quote from: sg56k on December 11, 2008, 05:37:08 PM
Hi, First post here. I tried to find the answers to these questions but after several days of looking, I am unable to satisfy myself. Any thoughts appreciated.
1. After viewing all the vids. as well as reading the FAQ's and the SM Compilation. I was wondering if the TPU demonstrated in the garage by SM was a first generation unit as it seems to be built a lot different than the units demonstrated to the group at the mansion. As I have read about the 3 coil stack type setup described by SM, it seems the garage location unit was not made that way.? Just wondering which design to pursue.
The two-level, open TPU was a variation on a theme. The variation seemed to be a change in active element axis. In other words, you could stand it on edge and the coil layout would be almost the same as the earlier toroids. I see it as having solid-state minor circuitry with coil firing done by vacuum tubes. (I see them but no one else does). I think this TPU is a mixture of technology so it is difficult to place it on a time scale.
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2. In all that I have come across here at this TPU forum, it has convinced me that shielding of unit during testing is essential towards a safer and happier life. Soo. What would the reason be that all units showed and demonstrated on the SM vids. do not seem to require this shielding or bother anybody during operation.? Is there no RF emissions of these units? Even the vid cameras seemed to work well when near these operating units with no apparent vid loss. What really surprised me was the lack of interference during the arc demonstration. :-\
The cameras were not digital (like current cameras) so it does not surprise me when I see little or no interference.
It is very unlikely there was much RF emission except from the low power driver circuits (on some). The majority of the measurable forces would have been magnetic and almost all of the energy movement would be vertical. I wouldn't stick my head above or below a working unit but the side wouldn't bother me. Neither would handling one by hand.
A D.C. arc from a welding machine will screw up the audio of a camera from that time but a steady arc from a high voltage battery would not as badly. What you see is the reason why I understand the output coil has no direct electrical connection to the rest of the TPU and it encircles the vertical current funneled by the TPU. Under no load the voltage would be a ratio of 1 (the vertical current) to the number of turns of the horizontal coils. Under load (something much lower in resistance than ionized air) the output would be a constant voltage because the load is supplied by the vertical coils instead of the horizontal portion of the same coil. Doesn't make sense? Lookup Rogowski coils.
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3. Has anyone preformed the suggestions by SM as to the rotating magnetic field and at what freq. that it may change.
There is a lot of forum history on this. Many will say 'yes' and give you frequencies. S.M. didn't say 'rotating magnetic field'. A rotating magnetic field would be cool for many but a foolish waste of time. What is clear to me is the RESULT must be as if it was caused by a rotating field. AND not in one axis only.
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4. It seemed to me that the SM compilation was pretty sure of the 3 coil stack setup. Has this been actually tried by anyone yet?
Answers to these questions will help in my research of these amazing units. It will be a while yet before I build as I still need to read the Tesla book mentioned by SM as well as researching a bit more about the tv tubes mentioned. Thanks again. :) sg56k
Again, lots of forum history and many will say they have. I'm quite sure there have been some coils made that should have worked if we understood exactly how a TPU should function and built control circuitry according to that function. Unfortunately, most are into high power and bloated electronics.
I see it as having solid-state minor circuitry with coil firing done by vacuum tubes. (I see them but no one else does). I think this TPU is a mixture of technology so it is difficult to place it on a time scale.
lol
you do,,,,, i bet the tubes are neons .... ;) acting as vacume tubes....
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lol
hi all
THIS VIDEO CLIP OF YOU TUBE <,::::: IS reciver of some radio or elktromagnets fild clouse to this small toruse coil <<if this coils torus is tune to this and get max. resonance then we whill see conversion device
is sosimple ist... THE NATURAL OF ENERGY OUT IS ALLWAYS THE SAME <<<
<<< we allways need two input source and whit this two input source we get out energy>.
IST NO MATHERE HO OF THIS TWO INPUT ENERGY WE WHILL INCREASING WE WHILL ALLWAYS GET MORE OUT ENRGY
EXPLANE IF TAKE THIS <,ELKTRICK MAGNET FILD like one input energy ,,,,,,
<, AND PERMANENET MAGNET LIKE SECOND INPUT ENERGY
<,AND WE GET MORE OUT ENERGY
WHIT THIS I SAY TO YOU THE ENERGY WE WHILL GET NOW FROM THIS KIND OF DEVICES WE HAVE NOW IN ALL WORLD IS MADE FOR GET MORE ELKTRICS COURENTS TO MAKE FOR OUR PORPOSE WE PUT ELKTRICS INPUT MORE TO GET OUT ENRGY
this is very wrong <<WAY WE PUT ELKTRICS INPUT ENRGY WAY WE DONT PUT MORE MAGNET FILD TO OUR MACHINES
REMEBER UP THERE I HAVE SAY THAT WE HAVE ALL WAYS NEED TWO INPUTS ENRGY
IF NOW REPLACE THE PLACE OF ELKTRICS TO MAGNETS THEN WE GET THE extra out energy
2 + 1 = 3
2... is one input energy<<elktricscourents>>
1....is second input energy <<magnet >>
THIS IS FOR MEXANICAL ENERGY OUT
FOR T.P.U IS THIS
2 + 1 = 3
2 ....is one input enrgy << elktricscourents>>
1.....is second input energy <<speed of magnet fild>>
yes we know this we increas the speed but we make ALL TIME MYSTAKE
resonance and tune properly coils
that is error i see here many tpu whit some many diferent frekfency input and still no have more then input energy WAY
<<ELTRICS COURENTS IS STABLE AND IS THE SAME NO NEED TO INCREASE WE INCREASE THE SPEED AND NOTHING
WHERE WE MAKE ERROR
;)
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