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Energy from Natural Resources => Electrolysis of H20 and Hydrogen on demand generation => Topic started by: race on January 06, 2009, 04:52:09 PM

Title: When engine is idle
Post by: race on January 06, 2009, 04:52:09 PM
When engine is idle, what happen with the rest of the hydrogen from generator?
If generator produce 10 liters/minute(or more) with full throttle, the generator will produce the same when I take the foot from the throttle.
I do not want to have 100 liters gas in my intake.
Maybe I have missed some part...
Title: Re: When engine is idle
Post by: TheNOP on January 06, 2009, 08:51:56 PM
Quote from: race on January 06, 2009, 04:52:09 PM
When engine is idle, what happen with the rest of the hydrogen from generator?
If generator produce 10 liters/minute(or more) with full throttle, the generator will produce the same when I take the foot from the throttle.
I do not want to have 100 liters gas in my intake.
Maybe I have missed some part...
yes you have missed some parts.

if your generator make more hho gas then required to idle your engine,
your engine won't be able to throttle all the way down, or, at all, in the worse case.
lowering the amps to your generator at throttle time would solve that.

but other problems might also arise depending on size of your engine, carburetor type, how your generator is hooked to it and how much hho your generator produce.

a few things i can think of are: unburned gasoline in the exhaust, timing, hho release from carb.

your intake is probably not big enough to fit 100 liters of gas in an un-compressed form.
the carburetor would release it back if it was compressed.
Title: Re: When engine is idle
Post by: CrazyEwok on January 06, 2009, 09:49:38 PM
You will find the results people are posting are "their best production rate" so far. This would be the amount that they will be producing at full throttle. So if they say 10L/Min then thats the max production. There will/should be a switch/sensor attached to either the throttle or the hydrogen delivery system that will lower production rates dependant on how much hydrogen your engine needs. (less throttle from your car less production)

There isn't an economical (cost or space) option yet (confirmed and replicated multiple times) that will allow your car to run soley on HHO so these statements of "10L/min" etc are max tested production rates. I believe that the "communitty" agreement is about 1000L/min is required production to run a car (don't get into the discussion of the exact amount as no-one really knows and there is already another thread that is based on that)
Title: Re: When engine is idle
Post by: race on January 07, 2009, 03:57:47 AM
I need a TPC to control production?
The same to petrol and diesel engine?
Title: Re: When engine is idle
Post by: TheNOP on January 07, 2009, 11:36:06 PM
Quote from: race on January 07, 2009, 03:57:47 AM
I need a TPC to control production?
read my previous post carefully, you will have your answer.

you will need one too if you have to limit the amp for electronic, or other device, limits reasons.
ex: cable size, generator max watts limit (efficiency, you don't want it to make steam...)

Quote from: race on January 07, 2009, 03:57:47 AM
The same to petrol and diesel engine?
yes, same for all ice engine