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Title: Hydroxy from Cavitation
Post by: Dave45 on January 06, 2009, 07:44:50 PM
Ok I posted the info in the cavitation thread but know responses maybe a dumb idea ?
What is the gas produced in mechanical cavitation,propeller,hydrofoil.
I believe its hydroxy and I believe it can be collected
Title: Re: Hydroxy from Cavitation
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 06, 2009, 08:18:49 PM
by "mechanical cavitation" are you refering to the compression pumps, where there is a rotor with holes in it, spinning in a tight chamber ???

that "gas" is air that is trapped in the water. as the vibrational energy exerts changing pressure onto the water,
the air compresses, however the water cannot, thus it creates "bubbles" during the decompresion phase of hte oscillation. The compression causes the water to heat, this expands the bubbles;

its kind of like the way the air bubbles collect to the bottom of a pot thats about to boil.



Title: Re: Hydroxy from Cavitation
Post by: Dave45 on January 06, 2009, 09:03:56 PM
the gas that forms on the tips of a propeller or a hydrofoil, ship builders design propellers to reduce cavitation but I believe we can build a hydrofoil that will increase cavitation add more hydrofoils means more gas, is this gas hydrogen and oxygen ?
Title: Re: Hydroxy from Cavitation
Post by: hansvonlieven on January 06, 2009, 09:13:23 PM
G'day all,

Cavitation bubbles are not a gas or steam. They are small spaces of VACUUM that are caused when one part of the water is moving so fast that the water behind it cannot follow in time. This small vacuum eventually collapses creating a strong pulse that is destructive to equipment.

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: Hydroxy from Cavitation
Post by: Dave45 on January 06, 2009, 09:19:38 PM
as a hydrofoil moves through water it will form cavitation bubbles
Title: Re: Hydroxy from Cavitation
Post by: Dave45 on January 06, 2009, 10:08:20 PM
Vacuum damn you just burst my bubble (Pun) but Im kinda thick skinned I'll have to check it out.  ;D
Title: Re: Hydroxy from Cavitation
Post by: Dave45 on January 06, 2009, 11:05:26 PM
Ok can we fill this vacuum with gas by applying a positive charge to the water pipe and a negetive charge to the hydrofoils hmmm but then the propeller moving the water would cavitate because of the bubbles in the water.
But would this stress on the water cause more hydroxy output? If the bubble in cavitation is a vacuum it must put one hell of a stress on the water molecule.
Title: Re: Hydroxy from Cavitation
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 06, 2009, 11:12:38 PM
the cavitation produced by a propeller or by the (holey rotor) is a compression/expansion of gasses trapped in the fluid. generally this is "air" or mostly nitrogen, with small ammounts of other gasses mixed in, O2,CO2, ect.

cavitation caused by vibration or sonic disruption is an entirey different story.
it is caused by a micro-vacuum, which collapses between the 'peaks' of the imparted frequency.
several gasses emit light, similar to an active neon tube

heres an interesting application, they are claiming small-scale, controlled fusion.
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StringhamRcavitationb.pdf (http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StringhamRcavitationb.pdf)