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Title: Tesla's article on Conical/Cone coils??
Post by: clone477 on January 28, 2009, 01:04:10 AM
Guys,
This was posted by user Lightwave awhile ago.....

"The thing with the cone, which Tesla also mentions in one of his articles , I'm not sure which one, between 1934 and 1937, he said it was his most favorite coil because it could resonate with any frequency, because each seperate winding acted like a seperate wave length reciever. 

This is how all energy is transmitted from one electron to another. The two cones can recieve any frequency , and retransmit it. One represents the negative sine wave, while the other represents the positive part."


He says it was written between 1934-1937, I've searched for hours but could not find it if my life depended on it.  Can anyone help out??
Title: Re: Tesla's article on Conical/Cone coils??
Post by: Koen1 on January 30, 2009, 08:39:52 AM
... no, can't help you there...

Only stuff I know of Tesla regarding conical coils is that he used a conical coil setup
for some of his Colorado Springs experiments, and that was just a variation of
his "Tesla coils" that he used to produce the familiar "streamers" and huge sparks...
According to certain sources, that conical version was destroyed in a fire in 1895
and he later built another, improved, version of his "Tesla transformer" which did
not use a conical coil but rather the more familiar looking pancake-coil-plus-solenoid setup
that is now common in "Tesla coils".

From roughly the same period of electrical pioneers there is another high voltage device
that used "conical" coils, pictures here: http://www.electrotherapymuseum.com/2005/KinraideMLConical/index.htm
But that doesn't appear to have anything to do with sending and receiving multiple
frequencies or anything so it's probably not very usefull to you.

And there's an obscure remark here http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Nikola_Tesla that says
QuoteTesla had many labs and experimental stations.
A strange location in Los Alamos Technical Area 33 had giant conical coil forms devoid of the copper wire.
That building still stands and is secreted as being radioactive.
Which implies Tesla built and worked with several large conical coils there...

...but I have not heard of Tesla using conical coils for anything other than his typical high voltage high frequency
transformer work.
Title: Re: Tesla's article on Conical/Cone coils??
Post by: sparks on January 30, 2009, 10:23:43 AM
@Koen

       Why do you think Tesla put pitchblende all over his magnifying transmitter ground at Wardenclyffe.  Or moray doped his vacuum tube coils with salts of various types.  What's in smoke detectors to create an ionizing field enviroment?
If you hit a neuclear fuel rod with hf can you recycle them or accelerate their 1/2 lives to less then background rads in a matter of hours instead of thousands of years.
Title: Re: Tesla's article on Conical/Cone coils??
Post by: Koen1 on January 30, 2009, 10:31:50 AM
Oh well that is quite clear... stimulated radioactive decay etc
clearly can be used to turn radioactivity into usable power.
And when you read a lot of stuff written in the 1900s period,
it is quite common to see radioactivity referred to as "radiant energy"...
Bruce Perreault wrote a nice little piece on that if I recall correctly.

However, that doesn't really answer the original question posted here,
on Tesla's use of conical coils to transmit and receive various wavelengths
at the same time... or does it and I just didn't see it? ;)
Title: Re: Tesla's article on Conical/Cone coils??
Post by: sparks on January 30, 2009, 11:35:30 AM
   I'm just trying to figure out the significance of Tesla's spark gap to his circuit physical positioning importance.   What difference does it make where the hell you have the spark gap compared to your capacitor unless you are radiating something.   Did Tesla get some accelerated electrons to do more than be absorbed by phospholuminous materials and thick pieces of glass.  What does happen when you make copper radioactive.  How long is the 1/2 life.  What is the emission wavelength.   What happens when you use a copper anode in a vacuum tube.  Will the circuit run with gain?  Didn't Tesla brag he got effects out in the field that had only been realized in Crooke's tubes before?
Title: Re: Tesla's article on Conical/Cone coils??
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on January 30, 2009, 05:33:39 PM
I remember my physics class they used a conical coil to produce high voltage, cant remember if it had a primary or if it was just the cone with a driver.....i think it did not, and the lower coils acted like a primary, not sure though.....
Title: Re: Tesla's article on Conical/Cone coils??
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on January 30, 2009, 05:34:45 PM
I think I'm gona build a little cone coil....