Have a look at this new invention:
http://www.kurier.at/nachrichten/burgenland/281189.php
Google translated to english:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.kurier.at/nachrichten/burgenland/281189.php&sl=de&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
Quotethe components for the emerging marvels are a 24 volt DC motor, two truck batteries, a pump, a hydraulic motor, a (selbstkonzipiertes) gearbox and a generator.
Sounds like J.D.Hardys self running waterwheel only with hydraulics.
Nice find,
But i gotta say that the Babel Fish of that page is a real hoot ;) Dunno for sure but i'm guessing that the Austrian dialect of the text is different enough from the German they use to "give head-vibrating problems it much" ;) , because i usually don't see them this badly mangled.
Either that or the author was tripping at the time lol.
But alas, as usual no real details except that he seems to claim it puts out 170 amps @24V with 70 of that put back in for self-running apparently (....if i got that meaning right).
Bad not, true if ;)
Quote from: jibbguy on February 01, 2009, 04:20:27 PM
Nice find,
But i gotta say that the Babel Fish of that page is a real hoot ;) Dunno for sure but i'm guessing that the Austrian dialect of the text is different enough from the German they use to "give head-vibrating problems it much" ;) , because i usually don't see them this badly mangled.
Either that or the author was tripping at the time lol.
But alas, as usual no real details except that he seems to claim it puts out 170 amps @24V with 70 of that put back in for self-running apparently (....if i got that meaning right).
Bad not, true if ;)
Yes he say.
It is not perfect now, but now he need 100 Amps fo first Input - to receive 170amp output, so the device can sustaining himself
So that is the sense of this news
Gustav Pese
This might be something!
Day by day we receive our usual brainwash.
Therefore it is difficult to think out of the Box.
Why not to think, that hydaulic is able to pump some sort of energy like
a heat pump.
Books teach us, that P in =P out and COP is 1
Some mixture of propane+/ butan are able to concentrate heat to a COP of 3-5.
Lets see the fact, that heat is just a small space from the frequency band.
So why not assume, that some sort of hydraulic liquid is able to
convert pressure to a higher stage of pressure.?
In this case it is no problem to feed a Generator via
hydraulic source with less power in then out.
helmut
Honoured Hero Members,
Come on, guys!
;D
Surely You Can’t Be Serious!
We can find hundreds of similar "breakthrough"es from newspapers,
Especially from yellows ...
Journalist is journalist and will be journalist - 99,99% of have very poor knowledge about natural sciences ::)
with due respect,
khabe
Lets sober down,
Stop hallucinate and rave 8)
WHY not thinking over more alternative soloutions, as this that we know?
We know what was surpressed ?? No!
Also this german guy that have studies at W.v.Braun Univeristy and is honir ctiican in US. have something to say:
Look here his URL: (German) (use babelfish or www.translate.ru)
http://wunderlich-live.de/
ansehen (der Mann der weiss was !)
Kann was !
Quote from: pese on February 02, 2009, 08:07:58 AM
WHY not thinking over more alternative soloutions, as this that we know?
We know what was surpressed ?? No!
Also this german guy that have studies at W.v.Braun Univeristy and is honir ctiican in US. have something to say:
Look here his URL: (German) (use babelfish or www.translate.ru)
www.wunderlich-life.de
ansehen (der Mann der weiss was !)
Kann was !
Im with two hands be for it - to thinking over more alternative soloutions !!!
But not stupidities!
What you see on the photo?
I do:
Two truck batteries ->starter motor->hydraulic pump -> ....Tank???...->hydraulic motor->gearbox->generator
Perhaps this Tank - we cant see it - is distensible, accumulates increasingly high pressure oil ... and then "end stage" is able
to get out "more than puted in" ... so what that short time only ::)
By this "scheme" even "selfrunning waterwheel" works well ... short time, of course.
Do you have any serious article about?
No?
>:(
Worldwide crisis and none reacted?
Come on, guys ... :'(
Regards,
khabe
I am having a lot of trouble tracing this man's patent, but have
ended up with this:
(51) H02N 11/00 (24) 2007 09 15 (11) 9549
(13) U1
(22) 2007 01 12 (21) GM 19/2007
(73) BERGER GERALD *A-7423 PINKAFELD,
SIEMENSSTRASSE 24 *0B
(54) VORRICHTUNG ZUR ENERGIEUMWANDLUNG
(72) BERGER GERALD, PINKAFELD *0B
I am pretty sure this can lead us to it. Can anyone pick
a patent number or application number out of that lot?
Paul.
we cannot see what the 3 phase generator is running ?
maybe it's a big Bedini motor ;D
cat
Hi Paul,
Yes, he (Berger Gerald) has got WO2008083419 (A1), this also the same as AT9549 (U1), and another a bit earlier: AT502983 (A2)
Link for the WO2008083419:
http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?KC=A1&date=20080717&NR=2008083419A1&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=WO&FT=D
Link for the AT502983:
http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?KC=A2&date=20070615&NR=502983A2&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=AT&FT=D
If you click on the Description icon (under the title of the patents), you can find a Translate this text icon in the opening German patent text window so that you will get a computer translation into English in a newly opening window
rgds, Gyula.
Think about,
When hydraulic transmission installed instead of normal (or automatic gearbox) - then car will take less fuel?
Come on, guys ...
10 years ago, when I was very busy with rebuildings of my house, I bought 763 BobCat loader ,
There are all on hydraulics, even driving - I did not detect any recognizable fuel economy ::)
cheers,
khabe
This guy did work with wind Generator's
A lot of wind Generator actually has 3 phase ac output which is converted to dc by bridge rectifier
cat
pump power with the load
http://www.hydraulicspneumatics.com/200/TechZone/HydraulicPumpsM/Article/True/6402/TechZone-HydraulicPumpsM (http://www.hydraulicspneumatics.com/200/TechZone/HydraulicPumpsM/Article/True/6402/TechZone-HydraulicPumpsM)
http://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2008b/080909IvantysynovaPumps.html (http://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2008b/080909IvantysynovaPumps.html)
[copy]Research has shown the "valveless" design alone could reduce fuel consumption by 40 percent
Currently, the best pumps and motors may have a top efficiency of 92 percent, but this efficiency level is only in a certain range of operation," Ivantysynova said
We learned that it actually improved performance to have surfaces that were not completely smooth, which was unexpected," she said.
Purdue has filed a patent for the innovation, called an "advanced gap surface design."
The innovations might be applied to a new "hydraulic hybrid" concept for cars that would use a hydraulic motor to save energy in hybrid cars.[end copy]
more to it then i thought :o
cat
Greetings Cat
This inventor has a fairly common approach to OU. One machine to another machine and see how much more can be possible. 100 in to get 170 and how many stages does it take? What is the practicality? The photo shows the hoses going off the photo. I suspect other parts of the device. Back in the 70s some people looked at water towers for OU/free energy. You pump the water up and gravity increases the pressure of the water to run through a water turbines to generate power to pump up the water to the tower and hopefully extra power. The whole idea is not practical. But here the inventor is using a hydraulic pump to what I see looks more like a generator possibly magnetically enhanced. Each invention has to have a practical application to be of use. Perpetual motion I doubt, but an improved efficiency very possible, and now days every little thing helps.
Many thanks AB Hammer for posting here and all the best with your current work.
@all We do need more information on this [if anyone can]
Stefan have you tried to contact the inventor.
Efficient Motor, Efficient Pump
http://www.ecycle.com/hydraulic_motor_pump_sets.html (http://www.ecycle.com/hydraulic_motor_pump_sets.html)
cat
Hydraulic hybrid regeneration
http://www.gizmag.com/regeneration-no-longer-just-about-braking/10640/
cheers,
khabe
The hydraulic component of the
system consists of a low pressure reservoir, a hydraulic pump and a high pressure accumulator. The working
fluid is generally nitrogen.When a hydraulic hybrid is in motion and needs to stop, the kinetic energy from the
braking system is passed to the hydraulic pump - connected to the driveshaft - which uses it to pressurize
nitrogen gas in the high pressure accumulator. The pressure of the stored gas can then be used to power the
hydraulic pump that rotates the driveshaft, thus putting the vehicle in motion again.
Hi khabe
been on google 2 days on hydraulics
I cannot see how hes doing it maybe a high pressure accumulator in the unit
like the Power Generating Shock Absorbers in the link you posted
all the best
cat
Quote from: powercat on February 06, 2009, 12:11:01 PM
Hi khabe
been on google 2 days on hydraulics
I cannot see how hes doing it maybe a high pressure accumulator in the unit
like the Power Generating Shock Absorbers in the link you posted
all the best
cat
Perhaps.
We dont see whats behind right side of photo, where hoses go,
Perhaps when "normal" running then Motor drives Pump .. this pump drives Hydraulic motor ... seems through Pressure Reductor Regulator... perhaps at the same time part of
high pressure oil (before reductor, direct from Pump) will be pressed to High Pressure Tank (Nitrogen based) ...you can accumulate this energy gradually, long time, could be accumulated even day before ...
Now, when "experiment" beginning, you can load the Generator up to 170A when Motor uses just "only" 100A - the rest of energy comes to Hydraulic motor from "storage" - from high pressure tank.
And of course not long time ;) ... as he told - "Although the device is not yet perfected ..."
I dont know is it fake or just missunderstanding ...
But anyway - even it is fake, joke or missunderstanding - this system is far not hopeless 8)
Its very useful device when short time peak power will be needed ::)
The only thing - I believe it was invented long time before hi did it ;)
But who knows exact ...
At least I do not,
cheers,
khabe
Quote from: khabe on February 06, 2009, 03:36:36 PM
Perhaps.
We dont see whats behind right side of photo, where hoses go,
Perhaps when "normal" running then Motor drives Pump .. this pump drives Hydraulic motor ... seems through Pressure Reductor Regulator... perhaps at the same time part of
high pressure oil (before reductor, direct from Pump) will be pressed to High Pressure Tank (Nitrogen based) ...you can accumulate this energy gradually, long time, could be accumulated even day before ...
Now, when "experiment" beginning, you can load the Generator up to 170A when Motor uses just "only" 100A - the rest of energy comes to Hydraulic motor from "storage" - from high pressure tank.
And of course not long time ;) ... as he told - "Although the device is not yet perfected ..."
I dont know is it fake or just missunderstanding ...
But anyway - even it is fake, joke or missunderstanding - this system is far not hopeless 8)
Its very useful device when short time peak power will be needed ::)
The only thing - I believe it was invented long time before hi did it ;)
But who knows exact ...
At least I do not,
cheers,
khabe
Photo and patent look misleading to me [normal].
Other side of photo , generator is running ?????? then 24V Pump.
Missunderstanding OR a patent on the method ::).
Quoteyou can accumulate this energy gradually, long time, could be accumulated even day before ...
Now, when "experiment" beginning, you can load the Generator up to 170A when Motor uses just "only" 100A - the rest of energy comes to Hydraulic motor from "storage"
170A - 100A = 70A to run a second pump into the accumulate as well [think we need 30A more}
very useful device when short time peak power will be needed YES
all the best
cat
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