I am looking to meet with either a person or a lab that is able to verify a couple of things for me and the company/inventor I am working with. I would like to discuss our concept and the prototype that is built, in confidence, to either validate or reject what we are claiming we hope to accomplish. I am aware that on the surface the claims I have made on this site are not possible, this is because all the factors are not known.(we do not wish to open source). This is why I would like to meet with someone that has the knowledge, ability and credibility to view the concept and the working motor that we have so far.
I am located in South Florida but can travel. Any input here would be grateful.
Cameron Sydenham
i have a hard time believing that there is not one person on here that can either help me or knows someone that is able to discuss the mechanical viability of a project I am working on.
If you are a business and want help from an open source community, expect a cold shoulder.
EDIT: especially if you wont reveal anything about the project..
Well, for non open source OU projects you can allways contact the New Energy Congress created by Sterling Alan at peswiki.com
You can also contact the people of EarthTech (Led by Dr. Hal Puthoff) which has all the tools for evaluating OU claims.
You can also contact the company created by Dr. Stephen Greer (yes, the same one of the Disclosure Project), but I can't remember the name of the company.
So far, there are not much more alternatives for this kind of claims out there.
... And please dont forget to go to the patent-office first.
Investors do love that.
;D
The problem seems to be the level of disclosure required by the two parties. Cameron wants to have (I think) an NDA in place before he reveals any details about his proposal/device, other than that it is mechanical and greatly OU. People that I have spoken to, and I feel this way myself, believe that more detail should be provided, before such formalities are invoked.
You see, investigating such a device could turn out to be a serious matter, and any initial NDA carries with it certain responsibilities and duties, if it to be taken seriously. Who wants to assume those responsibilities up front, if the device turns out to be, for example, yet another unworkable buoyancy drive, or a Milkovic chaotic pendulum?
So my position, and the position of the people I talk to, is that Cameron should bite the bullet and reveal enough detail about his device so that we can judge if it is worth pursuing, before he insists on an NDA or any other formal agreement.
I am sorry to step on any toes here, I was not aware this was an Open Source community.
TinselKoala, you hit the nail on the head. The giant what if, what if my concept and project do what we claim they can do, even half or 10 %. So yes, it is a catch 22 in a way. One issue that I worry about is the fact that the mechanics are not "staggering" they are along a high school understanding of physics. I have no problem disclosing the concept and demonstrating the prototype that is built now. Unfortunately this motor is able to use the applications of Centrifugal and Centrepetal force, but in a negative. I believe that I have finally figured out how to make these forces a propelling factor in our motor.
As far as bitting the bullet, I would rather at this time meet with or at least disclose more about the project with someone face to face. I can go to them, I have no issue with that. What I would like to know is that if that person or group evaluates my concept and or evaluates the motor, and if they see that the concept is viable, they are able to help us with the funds to proceed with this project. What I am trying to avoid, which is why I am trying to use this site, is meeting with the people who have the knowledge to credit or discredit the concept but unable to put 2 and 2 together as to what they just said " yea, that concept is wonderful, I see no problems from a mechanical point of view, build it and and Ill jump in." I can not fault them, they are not in the Alternative industry at all, but do have the qualifications to evaluate the motor concept.
I greatly appreciate the leads that were placed on here, and I will do everything that I can do meet with any of them.
Cameron
Hello,
There are a large number of members that can help you and wont post, cuz they are trollers or assholes looking for a buck . so u r rite not to trust anyone ( except me :) , ( with the exception of the true tree huggers). With this said the only way out is open info. Free the world, dont think about money or power. do what you love and the money and power will come, it will be then and only then you can decide what you want to do with it. If you find fe, only you can decide who takes that from you, who do you decide? The people or the powers that be. Dont waste your time with the patent office. The US GOV will take FE and it will b gone for economic reasons that dont fit there lifestyles ( search movie "everythingscool" just an example) Trust in yourslf that you are doing good for the people and post it open forum and the money will come. After all, all you need is a home, food, and shelter, and a PLANET for your GrandChildren. The people on this forum will support you like your USA gov wont. And yes, I am a US citizen.
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