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Title: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

Hi everyone 8)

Currently i am trying to amplify a small voltage into high voltage and its current from milliamps to amps now
Can somebody demonstrate amplify a 1.5 volts with its milliamps into high voltage and from milliamps to amps? ::)

Thank you. ;)

God bless
otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mk1 on February 06, 2009, 02:56:56 AM

Check the jule thief tread mate! Welcome!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2009, 09:16:45 PM

Thank you

But i'm thinking something big 8)

otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2009, 09:59:51 PM

similar something like this.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mk1 on February 07, 2009, 01:37:02 AM

Well, that plan looks exactly like a joule thief sorry you don't see that , i will try the your secondary connections a guess it should work, But then why ask the question if your not interested in the answer ? So far with a 1.5 battery we can make over 300 volts , maybe high voltage is more to you but , from a 1 inch core that's pretty good, plus you learn how your plan works for 0$. Well good luck ! If you change your mind you are welcome to the jule thief tread. Btw the core for that plan is it a saturation core or not.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on February 07, 2009, 10:14:32 AM

@Tito

QuoteCurrently i am trying to amplify a small voltage into high voltage and its current from milliamps to amps now
Can somebody demonstrate amplify a 1.5 volts with its milliamps into high voltage and from milliamps to amps?

What you are talking about are Watts, VA--- volt/amps or Watt/seconds, that is power moving over a given time frame. I would also think you would want to multiply power not amplify it, which would mean real power would need to enter your circuit from somewhere else adding to the energy already available.To understand how to generate excess power you need to understand every aspect of a circuit but more important what it is that is in the circuit. The circuit is a conduit for the motion of energy, this energy has qualities and properties related to it. My question has always been simple ----How can you build something you don't understand? How can you build a circuit utilizing electric and magnetic forces without first understanding what electricity and magnetism are in reality?. I think when you answer this question only then will you know how to build the device you desire. Think of it as the difference between having the ability to drive a car and having the ability to build one from scratch, LOL, they are definitely not the same thing.
Regards
AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 07, 2009, 02:26:55 PM

QuoteI would also think you would want to multiply power not amplify it, which would mean real power would need to enter your circuit from somewhere else adding to the energy already available.To understand how to generate excess power you need to understand every aspect of a circuit but more important what it is that is in the circuit. The circuit is a conduit for the motion of energy, this energy has qualities and properties related to it. (AC)

AC, I agree. The question then arises how to facilitate the entry/conversion of power from outside into the circuit. It seems to me one or both of the following 2 things are required:

1. Assymmetry
- whereby the circuit is not closed and the dipole is not destroyed,

2. Resonance
- which brings the frequency of oscillation in an inductor to a point where it not only multiplies its own input voltage at multiple harmonic levels, but becomes a kind of negative resistor or transducer of new ("outside") aetheric energy into electrical impulses.
(However, here the question arises: is this conventional "hot" electricity or "cold" electricity? [I would tend to think the latter]).

FWIW...
Any thoughts?
RS

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TheNOP on February 07, 2009, 09:53:38 PM

why always trying to tap the unknown with unknown ?

if you have a pulsed dc source, 1 volts/1 miliamp, let say 1 microsecond between pulse.
with proper conversion, you can get 2 volts/2 miliamps each 2 microsecond.
10 volts/10 miliamps each 10 microsecond.

is that OU ?
will it get you more energy ?
can you do more work with the later ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jadaro2600 on February 07, 2009, 10:25:24 PM

Quote from: TheNOP on February 07, 2009, 09:53:38 PM
why always trying to tap the unknown with unknown ?

if you have a pulsed dc source, 1 volts/1 miliamp, let say 1 microsecond between pulse.
with proper conversion, you can get 2 volts/2 miliamps each 2 microsecond.
10 volts/10 miliamps each 10 microsecond.

is that OU ?
will it get you more energy ?
can you do more work with the later ?

Apparently timer circuits use electricity regardless of whether or not they're in a pulse - after all, the capacitor has to charge.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 08, 2009, 09:16:53 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on February 08, 2009, 09:33:50 PM

Hi Tito

Glad to see your still with us...language does put us at a disadvantage but pictures and videos always speak volumes.

Look forward to hearing from you soon :)

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 16, 2009, 06:40:41 AM

Quote from: allcanadian on February 07, 2009, 10:14:32 AM
@TitoWhat you are talking about are Watts, VA--- volt/amps or Watt/seconds, that is power moving over a given time frame. I would also think you would want to multiply power not amplify it, which would mean real power would need to enter your circuit from somewhere else adding to the energy already available.To understand how to generate excess power you need to understand every aspect of a circuit but more important what it is that is in the circuit. The circuit is a conduit for the motion of energy, this energy has qualities and properties related to it. My question has always been simple ----How can you build something you don't understand? How can you build a circuit utilizing electric and magnetic forces without first understanding what electricity and magnetism are in reality?. I think when you answer this question only then will you know how to build the device you desire. Think of it as the difference between having the ability to drive a car and having the ability to build one from scratch, LOL, they are definitely not the same thing.
Regards
AC

Hi AC

I think you really can't understand me for now cause i'm doing some unconventional thing and i have great advancement currently. my brother prohibit me to tell everything sorry, for safety reason. TPU is so very easy now if you know the unconventional technique, since tpu is made from uncomventional way why everybody don't study the wierd things? the answer is there!

I understand what you mean but you don't know what i mean. sorry :(

Amplify power unconventionally is what i am is doing right now. and i have succeeded on that, im telling you the circuit is very easy. 8)

The conventional is, what is in is what is out and sometimes out is smaller than in and i'm tired of that. but there is a good news there is a circuit that can bring out bigger than in! julethief thread is near but not the perfect solution sorry.

THat's all for now, sometime i'll make a video of my developments. :)

TESLA IS GREAT AND GENIOUS !!! :o

God bless
Thank you

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 16, 2009, 06:52:01 AM

Quote from: TheNOP on February 07, 2009, 09:53:38 PM

why always trying to tap the unknown with unknown ?

Hi nop

Simply i just want to know, cause i don't know ;D

I'm always excited exploring the unsaturated place ;)

God bless
otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jadaro2600 on March 16, 2009, 07:11:25 AM

Who is Floyd Sweet?

Any vacuum tubes have possibility of emitting X-rays, or worse depending on Voltages involved.

We live in a substantial-delicate range of safe electromagnetic signals.. there are stars that don't emit some of the stuff we use to cook with.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 18, 2009, 06:21:13 AM

Quote from: jadaro2600 on March 16, 2009, 07:11:25 AM
Who is Floyd Sweet?

Any vacuum tubes have possibility of emitting X-rays, or worse depending on Voltages involved.

We live in a substantial-delicate range of safe electromagnetic signals.. there are stars that don't emit some of the stuff we use to cook with.

here is floyd sweet
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Inventors/FloydSweet/index.html

sorry sir :( :-X

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Room3327 on March 30, 2009, 10:48:17 PM

@Tito,
How 's your progress going with this, do you have anything you can share with us yet? I'm sure many here would like to know what you have found.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 01, 2009, 03:59:21 AM

Quote from: Room3327 on March 30, 2009, 10:48:17 PM
@Tito,
How 's your progress going with this, do you have anything you can share with us yet? I'm sure many here would like to know what you have found.

@room

Yes i will sir, i'm not just satisfied with the power i am getting, i am currently workin on it, i am adding thorated tungsten in my spark gap, i will post them as i finished it.

I have success about the Tom bearden's degenerated conductor, i will post them soon.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gsmsslsb on August 26, 2009, 12:50:24 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 01, 2009, 03:59:21 AM

I have success about the Tom bearden's degenerated conductor, i will post them soon.

Looking forward to info on beardens degenerate semiconductor :) :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on August 26, 2009, 11:58:20 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 01, 2009, 03:59:21 AM

@room

Yes i will sir, i'm not just satisfied with the power i am getting, i am currently workin on it, i am adding thorated tungsten in my spark gap, i will post them as i finished it.

I have success about the Tom bearden's degenerated conductor, i will post them soon.

I hope really soon! I am usually on the JT thread, you said we are close! What does that mean?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on August 27, 2009, 08:11:30 AM

ok I have waited several hours, what do you have for us? There are plenty of people here that may be able to help you find your solutions quickly...now!

;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 27, 2009, 08:06:40 PM

Hi everyone good day !!! ;D

I have made it perfectly but the problem is my country does'nt want to support me about my discovery or what ever it may be to call.

so i am forced to hide it to everyone.

and from there i am just using my free energy to make money by selling ice or ice cubes and and laundry services. sorry everyone! you have to understand :)

God bless
otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on August 27, 2009, 08:43:55 PM

@Tito L. Oracion
LOL, no offence but I hope you can understand the irony here. You say you have a technology that could save millions of lives every year but instead your going to make ice cubes and then you have the nerve to end your post with "god bless". If you believe there is a god know that he is going to send you straight to hell, there is no doubt of this.
AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 27, 2009, 11:02:55 PM

Quote from: allcanadian on August 27, 2009, 08:43:55 PM
@Tito L. Oracion
LOL, no offence but I hope you can understand the irony here. You say you have a technology that could save millions of lives every year but instead your going to make ice cubes and then you have the nerve to end your post with "god bless". If you believe there is a god know that he is going to send you straight to hell, there is no doubt of this.
AC

hi ac

i understand that also what you mean, currently my situation is not good and i don't know whose to trust and i need to earn money for my three children, i believe God will understand me also.

sorry guys

A tip to all of you: study the real process or the real thing that is happening when charging many caps of at least 10K uf in high voltage dc and discharging it sequencially in a coil with secondary! the only secret here is how you connect the caps from battery and coil efficiently! thats it you have it.

offcourse you pulse it!

otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 27, 2009, 11:26:55 PM

Does anybody here have any liquid nitrogen readily available?

Jerry :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 27, 2009, 11:41:52 PM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 27, 2009, 11:26:55 PM
Does anybody here have any liquid nitrogen readily available?

Jerry :)

hi jerry

your looking for a readily available liquid nitrogen, hmmm, actually i'm using fertilizer in my car!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 27, 2009, 11:52:10 PM

Hi Tito.

I have read up on trapping light, slowing down light, speeding up light using various gases like cold sodium atoms.

I was wanting to see if this could also be done using cryogenically cooled Sodium Silicated Crystals, clear and opaque types, I know Sodium Silicate is a good diffuser of LASER light.

Photon Amplification is another story.

Jerry ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 27, 2009, 11:53:04 PM

Quote from: stprue on August 26, 2009, 11:58:20 AM
I hope really soon! I am usually on the JT thread, you said we are close! What does that mean?

jt thread is closed in the sense that the battery will last longer but very far because you can light only led, what we need is real big power, using only simple materials! 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 27, 2009, 11:57:02 PM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 27, 2009, 11:52:10 PM
Hi Tito.

I have read up on trapping light, slowing down light, speeding up light using various gases like cold sodium atoms.

I was wanting to see if this could also be done using cryogenically cooled Sodium Silicated Crystals, clear and opaque types, I know Sodium Silicate is a good diffuser of LASER light.

Photon Amplification is another story.

Jerry ;)

oic i thought you are experimenting about explosion amplifier ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on August 28, 2009, 12:08:09 AM

@Tito

Quotei understand that also what you mean, currently my situation is not good and i don't know whose to trust and i need to earn money for my three children, i believe God will understand me also.

I understand as well, we do what we can when we can and that is the best we can do, I was being overly dramatic and a little rude as usual, LOL. Take your time and find the best path for you and your family. I hope all of this works out well for you, history has shown it seldom works out well for persons in this field of technology but the times they are changing, this technology is coming out everywhere and will not be hidden again.
AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 28, 2009, 12:14:15 AM

Quote from: allcanadian on August 28, 2009, 12:08:09 AM
@TitoI understand as well, we do what we can when we can and that is the best we can do, I was being overly dramatic and a little rude as usual, LOL. Take your time and find the best path for you and your family. I hope all of this works out well for you, history has shown it seldom works out well for persons in this field of technology but the times they are changing, this technology is coming out everywhere and will not be hidden again.
AC

thank you for understanding.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 28, 2009, 12:23:25 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 27, 2009, 11:57:02 PM
oic i thought you are experimenting about explosion amplifier ;D

Hi Tito.

that's funny, no the idea is that photons and electrons go hand and hand, if a LASER amplifier medium is used the electrons pump out twice as many photons into greater amount of photo pressure, the idea is to trap this photo pressure in a photo amplifying medium. then by controlling the leakage of the photons one can leak a specific amount of stored light into a full band gap solar cell array for the production of power.

it's more complicated than what I just specified but it's a reasonable short explanation for starters.

cooled Sodium Gas Atoms can slow down light to a complete stop but we're not looking to stop it just slow it down to a really ultra slow crawl via temperature control of the sodium gas atoms. this would allow photo pressure to build up into the medium for more efficient Photovoltaic reactions and photo amplification due to the over excess of photons within the medium.

this is where the Sodium Silicate comes in, if it can do the same thing then this makes the procedure much easier than using cooled Sodium Gas.

Try cooling the full Sodium Silicate crystal first as a whole then try it again with crushed and ground Sodium Silicates to see if optical trapping occurs, if it does then we go to the next step, the band gap of the sodium silicate changes according to the grade of the ground up crystal. this also occurs in ground silicon itself.

Photon amplification of the exited LASED electrons results in Photon OU. 1 photon turns into 2 then 4 then 8 then 16 then 32 photons and on.

Jerry ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 28, 2009, 12:35:59 AM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 28, 2009, 12:23:25 AM
Hi Tito.

that's funny, no the idea is that photons and electrons go hand and hand, if a LASER amplifier medium is used the electrons pump out twice as many photons into greater amount of photo pressure, the idea is to trap this photo pressure in a photo amplifying medium. then by controlling the leakage of the photons one can leak a specific amount of stored light into a full band gap solar cell array for the production of power.

it's more complicated than what I just specified but it's a reasonable short explanation for starters.

cooled Sodium Gas Atoms can slow down light to a complete stop but we're not looking to stop it just slow it down to a really ultra slow crawl via temperature control of the sodium gas atoms. this would allow photo pressure to build up into the medium for more efficient Photovoltaic reactions and photo amplification due to the over excess of photons within the medium.

this is where the Sodium Silicate comes in, if it can do the same thing then this makes the procedure much easier than using cooled Sodium Gas.

Try cooling the full Sodium Silicate crystal first as a whole then try it again with crushed and ground Sodium Silicates to see if optical trapping occurs, if it does then we go to the next step, the band gap of the sodium silicate changes according to the grade of the ground up crystal. this also occurs in ground silicon itself.

Photon amplification of the exited LASED electrons results in Photon OU. 1 photon turns into 2 then 4 then 8 then 16 then 32 photons and on.

Jerry ;)

wow! that's interesting. i pray for your success be careful bye . :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: markdansie on August 28, 2009, 07:37:45 AM

Hi Tito,
with all great respect to you and the needs of your family, I can understand your fustration with your government. There are two solutions if you say what you have is real.
1. post the design and tech specification on the internet and give it to humanity.
2. find another country or investment group that will take your project forward.
This is only my opinion and I express it with respect to you.
i think many people here would appreciate the results you have achieved in regards to input and out put and how you measured them. This does not require you to specify you technical details which can remain hidden.
Kind Regards
mark

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on August 28, 2009, 08:57:00 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 27, 2009, 11:02:55 PM
hi ac

i understand that also what you mean, currently my situation is not good and i don't know whose to trust and i need to earn money for my three children, i believe God will understand me also.

sorry guys

A tip to all of you: study the real process or the real thing that is happening when charging many caps of at least 10K uf in high voltage dc and discharging it sequencially in a coil with secondary! the only secret here is how you connect the caps from battery and coil efficiently! thats it you have it.

offcourse you pulse it!

otits

Are you charging them all at the same time and then using something along the lines of a led chaser circuit for discharging? ...and probably some back into the coil and some caps for useable energy?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 28, 2009, 06:31:54 PM

Quote from: stprue on August 28, 2009, 08:57:00 AM
Are you charging them all at the same time and then using something along the lines of a led chaser circuit for discharging? ...and probably some back into the coil and some caps for useable energy?

well, partly you are correct but there is still missing, the technique of using other coil making a kick without using any current from the input and that makes excess or unlimited energy. and i got this technique in henderson file.
my device is a combination of tom bearden, henderson and bedini.

sorry i'll be busy now, i cannot respond always.

God bless
otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 28, 2009, 06:39:04 PM

Quote from: markdansie on August 28, 2009, 07:37:45 AM
Hi Tito,
with all great respect to you and the needs of your family, I can understand your fustration with your government. There are two solutions if you say what you have is real.
1. post the design and tech specification on the internet and give it to humanity.
2. find another country or investment group that will take your project forward.
This is only my opinion and I express it with respect to you.
i think many people here would appreciate the results you have achieved in regards to input and out put and how you measured them. This does not require you to specify you technical details which can remain hidden.
Kind Regards
mark

Thank you for your suggestion sir but i think i will do that some other time.

I want to enjoy it first with my family.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on August 28, 2009, 07:09:06 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 28, 2009, 06:39:04 PM

Thank you for your suggestion sir but i think i will do that some other time.

I want to enjoy it first with my family.

Congratulations Tito !!!

Why not tell the world how to do it? What is it that makes your family more important than everyone Else's family?

Think man, you or anyone that thinks keeping this a secret is taking a decision bigger than God !

Would God not want you to use this knowledge to save millions from dying?

You can pump water to those that need it!

You can desalinize water and irrigate dry land to feed the masses l

Doesn't countless lives saved mean anything to anyone anymore?

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: markdansie on August 28, 2009, 09:55:15 PM

@Goat,
what we have here is a classic case of BS. I rank this with Mylow and the other dozen self deluded individuals we have come across this year. Why struggle when if he allowed it to be verified he could make millions and if so inclined give the money away to help others.
He name drops others (all of who have yet to have overunity independently verified)
I realise some of you like to be diplomatic just in case he has something, however he is just another ego driven self proclaimed legend of OU, that has nothing and never will have.
People like me are not always well liked as I love to bust the fraudsters (thats easy with OU claims) I do always support people in their efforst and admire those who do. But scum like this should just F--k off Tito and stop misleading the many others who do quality work and are pushing the boundries.
I suggest he doesnt quote the ones he does but rather quote his real hero's such as Mylow.
So folks I do not think there is any value here just a self deluded egotistical scumbag.
Of course I would loved to be proved wrong. (i will wager $5000 USD on this one)
I have toned my email down a lot in repect of others here.
PS what we need next here is the MIB story just to complete the pattern.
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 29, 2009, 06:13:03 PM

Quote from: Goat on August 28, 2009, 07:09:06 PM
Congratulations Tito !!!

Why not tell the world how to do it? What is it that makes your family more important than everyone Else's family?

Think man, you or anyone that thinks keeping this a secret is taking a decision bigger than God !

Would God not want you to use this knowledge to save millions from dying?

You can pump water to those that need it!

You can desalinize water and irrigate dry land to feed the masses l

Doesn't countless lives saved mean anything to anyone anymore?

Regards,
Paul

Hi paul good day

if there's a person's i can trust here is between you and sir pese.

but there is a battle in my mind between my family and other's family.

you really made me think and a pulse acting in my conscience becomes alive.

i'm still in the middle, though there are already made ou running by others now.

i love my family, i think God has other solution to others.

actually i'm already giving vital info about my device all you have to do is make some or try some weird twist and that's it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 29, 2009, 06:26:30 PM

Quote from: markdansie on August 28, 2009, 09:55:15 PM
@Goat,
what we have here is a classic case of BS. I rank this with Mylow and the other dozen self deluded individuals we have come across this year. Why struggle when if he allowed it to be verified he could make millions and if so inclined give the money away to help others.
He name drops others (all of who have yet to have overunity independently verified)
I realise some of you like to be diplomatic just in case he has something, however he is just another ego driven self proclaimed legend of OU, that has nothing and never will have.
People like me are not always well liked as I love to bust the fraudsters (thats easy with OU claims) I do always support people in their efforst and admire those who do. But scum like this should just F--k off Tito and stop misleading the many others who do quality work and are pushing the boundries.
I suggest he doesnt quote the ones he does but rather quote his real hero's such as Mylow.
So folks I do not think there is any value here just a self deluded egotistical scumbag.
Of course I would loved to be proved wrong. (i will wager $5000 USD on this one)
I have toned my email down a lot in repect of others here.
PS what we need next here is the MIB story just to complete the pattern.
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie

hi mark

i understand you, ok if i'm disturbing many, sorry for that, at least i have given some of my hints i just encouraging you to keep on experimenting, CAPACITOR IS THE SOLUTION!!!
SORRY FOR EVERYTHING I WON'T DISTURB YOU ANYMORE
otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: markdansie on August 29, 2009, 06:34:55 PM

Hi Tito,
you are not disturbing me at all.
I do have one curiousity. You speak of having to struggle feeding and providing for your family. yet if you say what you have achieved you could provide them with as much money and resources to live in comfort for all their lives (anywhere in the world)
So having a family myself, I would never deny them an opportunity to have security and education.
Secondly I am sure many here would like to know what results you have achieved IE power in and power out and how you measured it. In what way would that harm or jepodise your position?
Mark

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 29, 2009, 06:52:16 PM

Quote from: markdansie on August 29, 2009, 06:34:55 PM
Hi Tito,
you are not disturbing me at all.
I do have one curiousity. You speak of having to struggle feeding and providing for your family. yet if you say what you have achieved you could provide them with as much money and resources to live in comfort for all their lives (anywhere in the world)
So having a family myself, I would never deny them an opportunity to have security and education.
Secondly I am sure many here would like to know what results you have achieved IE power in and power out and how you measured it. In what way would that harm or jepodise your position?
Mark

that is so easy to say but its so hard in reality specially if your country does'nt want to support you,

I'M NOT SELLING MY DEVICE OK!!! for your info.

i'm contented in my ice cube and laundry business ok!!! Goodbye!

i think no need for measurement if you are using your device for one straight week without charging the battery and using 300 watts of power from your inverter. all i need is that it can stand everyday ok.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: markdansie on August 29, 2009, 09:11:23 PM

Hi Tito,
I am happy you have found contentment with your icecube and laundry business. Finding contentment is always good.
I am curious why you need the support of your country? You can always find a country that will support you.
I did not ask to purchase your device. I suggested you either explain what you have discovered or at least the performance. You can give it to others freely who will do good and help many people who need clean water and electricity, or at least show others who can adopt your design and do good.
i understand your anger at me but why not assist the many people who have assisted you, some of which you have already acknowledged here.
i know of a humanatarian organisation (not for profit) who would assist and support you in everyway and use your technology for humanatarian work. I cannot see how this would interfere with your contentment or your family , but maybe improve the lives of many millions around the world.
I can only come to three conclusions.
1. You are either genius that is very selfish and do not care about people
2. You are full of BS and never achieved anything.
3. You are self dellusional
History is unfortunately on my side.Y
You have nothing to prove to me, to be honest I dont really care but there are many others who do care.
I think you can see the corner you have worked yourself into.
Take care and I wish you all the best for you and your family.
Kind Regards
Mark

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 29, 2009, 10:03:42 PM

Quote from: markdansie on August 29, 2009, 09:11:23 PM
Hi Tito,
I am happy you have found contentment with your icecube and laundry business. Finding contentment is always good.
I am curious why you need the support of your country? You can always find a country that will support you.
I did not ask to purchase your device. I suggested you either explain what you have discovered or at least the performance. You can give it to others freely who will do good and help many people who need clean water and electricity, or at least show others who can adopt your design and do good.
i understand your anger at me but why not assist the many people who have assisted you, some of which you have already acknowledged here.
i know of a humanatarian organisation (not for profit) who would assist and support you in everyway and use your technology for humanatarian work. I cannot see how this would interfere with your contentment or your family , but maybe improve the lives of many millions around the world.
I can only come to three conclusions.
1. You are either genius that is very selfish and do not care about people
2. You are full of BS and never achieved anything.
3. You are self dellusional
History is unfortunately on my side.Y
You have nothing to prove to me, to be honest I dont really care but there are many others who do care.
I think you can see the corner you have worked yourself into.
Take care and I wish you all the best for you and your family.
Kind Regards
Mark

Hi mark

You have a point there,
i think i maybe not just ready for it.

i will prove nothing but i encourage everyone to study this field if you really want to see real power!.
study the tesla's wiring style, efficiency is in there.
still tesla's technique is the superior method!. believe it or not.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: markdansie on August 29, 2009, 11:13:25 PM

Hi Again,

I have a quote from you
"I know that you know we're running out of time, earth is very sick she needs all of us and still waiting for geniouses for a redemption make a move now! before its too late.
That's why it is a sin for you if you are not doing what you should be doing right now!"

I rest my case
Kind Regards
Mark

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 29, 2009, 11:49:07 PM

Quote from: markdansie on August 29, 2009, 11:13:25 PM
Hi Again,

I have a quote from you
"I know that you know we're running out of time, earth is very sick she needs all of us and still waiting for geniouses for a redemption make a move now! before its too late.
That's why it is a sin for you if you are not doing what you should be doing right now!"

I rest my case
Kind Regards
Mark

i remember that ;D those are my previous post , ya you got me there but please give me time to earn first and enjoy it first. ;)

you really attacking my conscience >:(

don't worry :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gsmsslsb on September 11, 2009, 12:48:14 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 01, 2009, 03:59:21 AM

@room

Yes i will sir, i'm not just satisfied with the power i am getting, i am currently workin on it, i am adding thorated tungsten in my spark gap, i will post them as i finished it.

I have success about the Tom bearden's degenerated conductor, i will post them soon.

Hello Tito
In the post above you were going to post something about your success with Tom Beardens degenerate semiconductor. ;D
Have you got anything you can tell us yet.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: otto on September 11, 2009, 03:12:02 AM

Hello all,

it seems that I was a little bit blind so I didnt see this thread. and especially the posted "Sweet drawing".

For years now Im insisting to use this drawing to build a TPU. It has to be a little bit modified because of the number of turns, connections.... Nobody was listening as always.

Tito, your doing a great job.

Otto

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MasterPlaster on September 11, 2009, 07:07:32 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 29, 2009, 11:49:07 PM
i remember that ;D those are my previous post , ya you got me there but please give me time to earn first and enjoy it first. ;)

you really attacking my conscience >:(

don't worry :)

"Me first" .. The bane of humanity.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on September 11, 2009, 08:29:37 AM

@Tito

What is the physical size of your device? Can you give us some dimensions? Parts?

Are you only using 2-3 coils?

How are they wound?

How are you driving it?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 16, 2009, 10:00:24 PM

Quote from: otto on September 11, 2009, 03:12:02 AM
Hello all,

it seems that I was a little bit blind so I didnt see this thread. and especially the posted "Sweet drawing".

For years now Im insisting to use this drawing to build a TPU. It has to be a little bit modified because of the number of turns, connections.... Nobody was listening as always.

Tito, your doing a great job.

Otto

hi sir otto good day!!!

i would like to thank for your informative info where i learned a lot.

i would like you to know also that YOU are very big part of my success.

i made you feel bad just to squeeze some secret info from you, didn't you notice that sir ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ;D ;D

Thank you very much sir!

otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 16, 2009, 10:13:17 PM

Quote from: MasterPlaster on September 11, 2009, 07:07:32 AM
"Me first" .. The bane of humanity.

hi mp

i made a lot of hard work and very dangerous experiment, do you think i will just give it just easy as that!
i made a lot of readings in this forum, Yes i am not denying that i learned a lot here, you can learn too.

for every hard work there is a reward!!!

perhaps i am giving already many hints and its up to you to try it,

OPCOURSE TRY IT IN SMALL AMOUNT FIRST OK. its dangerous. 8)

and if your just really studying it you can get it, everything has been discussed in this forum already

all you need is study and experiment ok.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 16, 2009, 10:30:23 PM

hi everyone good day

i focused my self on energy amplification because i believe that the real secret of our previous scientist and inventors is on how to amplify a small energy. tesla, moray, habbard, hendershot, bearden, bedini.

like for example the tesla's radiant energy that was not patented without something in it ok its not weak, WE CAN AMPLIFY IT OK. 8)

The secret is boldly discussed in this forum already its so very easy you have to notice it.

A COIL THAT MAKES A BIG KICK WITHOUT USING ANY CURRENT!

AND WE CAN MAKE UNLIMITTED NUMBERS OF THEM OK! 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 16, 2009, 10:47:05 PM

Quote from: stprue on September 11, 2009, 08:29:37 AM
@Tito

What is the physical size of your device? Can you give us some dimensions? Parts?

Are you only using 2-3 coils?

How are they wound?

How are you driving it?

ARE YOU ONLY USING 2-3 COILS? : its up to your design, the manyer the coil, the bigger capacity you can
produced ok.

HOW ARE THEY WOUND? : opcourse bifillar is still the best plus the magic coil that makes the big kick just include it
in the bifillar to fill the collector fully charge in energy ok.

HOW ARE YOU DRIVING IT?: well, just a matter of on and off ok. thats how simple it is.

i think you can ask sir otto for parts and dimensions ok. its not a big deal in my device ok its just so very simple
device.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: otto on September 17, 2009, 01:29:23 AM

Hello all,

@Tito

I have NO problems if somebody uses my ideas.
I also have no problems to share what I know. I only need a little push to start to wright, ha,ha.
I have no problems if somebody wants to earn a lot of money or patent my ideas.

But I dont agree with you that you got "SECRET" infos from me....

I have NOTHING to hide and my "mission" here is to help the people a little bit. If I can of course.

Look at overunity.de - the Hendershot thread so you can see my "secrets".

So, in the hope you did the right thing I hope we will soon see what you have.

Otto

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 17, 2009, 02:18:49 AM

Quote from: otto on September 17, 2009, 01:29:23 AM
Hello all,

@Tito

I have NO problems if somebody uses my ideas.
I also have no problems to share what I know. I only need a little push to start to wright, ha,ha.
I have no problems if somebody wants to earn a lot of money or patent my ideas.

But I dont agree with you that you got "SECRET" infos from me....

I have NOTHING to hide and my "mission" here is to help the people a little bit. If I can of course.

Look at overunity.de - the Hendershot thread so you can see my "secrets".

So, in the hope you did the right thing I hope we will soon see what you have.

Otto

well sir ok

i thought i made you to tell something hidden about negative energy.

anyway thank you. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: otto on September 17, 2009, 02:30:37 AM

Hello all,

@Tito

negative RESISTANCE is needed in our coils and devices, not negative energy.

Anyway. what means negative resistance?

A lot of people "knows" everything about that but.....is it so??

Otto

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mk1 on September 17, 2009, 02:47:21 AM

http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/29990/Dr__Steven_Greer_The_Promise_of_New_Energy/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: exnihiloest on September 17, 2009, 03:02:23 AM

Quote from: otto on September 17, 2009, 01:29:23 AM
...So, in the hope you did the right thing I hope we will soon see what you have.
...

When someone announces in advance a great and dangerous invention that he is working on (i.e without any proof), the past has proved he has nothing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 17, 2009, 05:25:32 AM

Quote from: exnihiloest on September 17, 2009, 03:02:23 AM
When someone announces in advance a great and dangerous invention that he is working on (i.e without any proof), the past has proved he has nothing.

ok think what you want to think.

i'm just so busy right now cause my father died last sept. 11 i cannot able to make a video to present.

i think i'll just close it right here. thank you very much.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 17, 2009, 05:29:31 AM

Quote from: otto on September 17, 2009, 02:30:37 AM
Hello all,

@Tito

negative RESISTANCE is needed in our coils and devices, not negative energy.

Anyway. what means negative resistance?

A lot of people "knows" everything about that but.....is it so??

Otto

oh ya i think that is what i accidentally discovered, we're talking of different thing ok.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on September 17, 2009, 12:18:27 PM

Tito are you willing to give up your secrets yet? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 17, 2009, 06:11:25 PM

I don't know if this is related but definitely one way of amplifying energy is described clearly by Tesla in his interview by counsel, which is deciphered here :

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4596-trying-decode-teslas-converters-2.html

This is of course only theory and missing many parts, but in fact it's like TV station : no matter how much TV sets are operational in the same moment it does draw the same energy from transmitter to transmit signal. Am I right ?

Help me understand it fully please and I will help you with what I learned.
Assume you have two RLC circuits both with antenna , which is transmitter and which receiver ? How to distinguish them ? How to make unidirectional energy flow ? How to not disturb resonance of receiver while dissipating part of energy from it ? There is a problem also that every load I know are dynamic - they change parameters in time,temperature and depending on many factors. How to find a method to "hold resonance in place" in receiver ?

Why there are so many secrets ? It is simple like one satellite signal and 1 million TV receivers . Am I right ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 23, 2009, 01:13:29 AM

Quote from: forest on September 17, 2009, 06:11:25 PM
I don't know if this is related but definitely one way of amplifying energy is described clearly by Tesla in his interview by counsel, which is deciphered here :

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4596-trying-decode-teslas-converters-2.html

This is of course only theory and missing many parts, but in fact it's like TV station : no matter how much TV sets are operational in the same moment it does draw the same energy from transmitter to transmit signal. Am I right ?

Help me understand it fully please and I will help you with what I learned.
Assume you have two RLC circuits both with antenna , which is transmitter and which receiver ? How to distinguish them ? How to make unidirectional energy flow ? How to not disturb resonance of receiver while dissipating part of energy from it ? There is a problem also that every load I know are dynamic - they change parameters in time,temperature and depending on many factors. How to find a method to "hold resonance in place" in receiver ?

Why there are so many secrets ? It is simple like one satellite signal and 1 million TV receivers . Am I right ?

yes i have also a complete copy of this tesla's interview, this interview is exactly where i am focusing my experiment, great find. you're already there.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 23, 2009, 01:15:53 AM

Quote from: stprue on September 17, 2009, 12:18:27 PM
Tito are you willing to give up your secrets yet? ;D

i'm already giving many of the secrets, circuit efficiency and some arrangement is the one that is only missing.

i believe you have it already. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 23, 2009, 02:19:01 AM

I will try to put it as theoretical elaboration done by Tesla in parts.

Part I

Energy impulse.

"(...) The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one
could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in
the technical papers. I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million
horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time.
You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt,
an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at
the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.
I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200
horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge
the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful
instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the
energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive.
A common experiment, for instance, in my laboratory on Houston Street, was to pass through a coil energy at a rate of several thousand horsepower,
put a piece of thick tinfoil on a stick, and approach it to that coil. The tinfoil would melt, and would not only melt, but while it was still in that form, it
would be evaporated and the whole process took place in so small an interval of time that it was like a cannon shot. Instantly I put it there, there was
an explosion. That was a striking experiment. It simply showed the power of the condenser, and at that time I was so reckless that in order to
demonstrate to my visitors that my theories were correct, I would stick my head into that coil and I was not hurt; but, I would not do it now."

We have learned here that capacitor discharge is like EXPLOSIVE, it has energy gain manifold. We have also seen proof - Tesla laboratory experiment with quite low power melting thick tinfoil instantly.

For those who don't see it : imagine a boxer or wrestler and we are training him and he accumulate power in muscles and technic to give the final kick. This is capacitor.

Glossary:
damped wave = disruptive discharge of capacitor,squeezing energy in time,energy impulse of explosive nature
undamped wave = continuous oscillation = resonance

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 23, 2009, 02:25:22 AM

Quote from: forest on September 23, 2009, 02:19:01 AM
I will try to put it as theoretical elaboration done by Tesla in parts.

Part I

Energy impulse.

"(...) The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one
could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in
the technical papers. I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million
horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time.
You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt,
an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at
the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.
I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200
horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge
the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful
instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the
energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive.
A common experiment, for instance, in my laboratory on Houston Street, was to pass through a coil energy at a rate of several thousand horsepower,
put a piece of thick tinfoil on a stick, and approach it to that coil. The tinfoil would melt, and would not only melt, but while it was still in that form, it
would be evaporated and the whole process took place in so small an interval of time that it was like a cannon shot. Instantly I put it there, there was
an explosion. That was a striking experiment. It simply showed the power of the condenser, and at that time I was so reckless that in order to
demonstrate to my visitors that my theories were correct, I would stick my head into that coil and I was not hurt; but, I would not do it now."

We have learned here that capacitor discharge is like EXPLOSIVE, it has energy gain manifold. We have also seen proof - Tesla laboratory experiment with quite low power melting thick tinfoil instantly.

For those who don't see it : imagine a boxer or wrestler and we are training him and he accumulate power in muscles and technic to give the final kick. This is capacitor.

Glossary:
damped wave = disruptive discharge of capacitor,squeezing energy in time,energy impulse of explosive nature
undamped wave = continuous oscillation = resonance

I SECOND DEMOTION!

CASE CLOSED !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on September 23, 2009, 02:26:11 AM

in energy amplification, the photon wins supreme, with photons one can get a 2 for 1 sale at your local LASER medium outfit. in order to get the 2 for 1 sale on photons you have to speak with your local electron Representative.

there is nothing more powerful than the Talisman of light. it can hold the light of the Universe inside an area the size of a thimble. (the perfect Light Trap).

I wonder if the name Talisman can be the elemental, Tantalum, Lithium, Samarium, an?

just kicking some things around, don't mind me.
Jerry ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: otto on September 23, 2009, 03:13:47 AM

Hello all,

just "shake" your coils and you will have an energy amplification.

Otto

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 23, 2009, 08:21:54 AM

Part II

Pendulum.

"(...)if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at
the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more"

"(...)The idea was to put the coil, with reference to the primary, in an inductive connection which was not closeâ€"we call it now a loose
couplingâ€"but free to permit a great resonant rise. "

We see here how Tesla described his undamped oscillation circuit as something having continuous wave without squeezing factor possible , but with great resonant rise if permitted to free oscillate. This is exactly what PENDULUM is.

Energy pulse is now converted into continuous oscillation. But that require reviving energy with sporadic energy impulses.

"Then I had a sensibly damped wave because at that time I still
was laboring under the same difficulties as some do this day ::) â€"I had not learned how to produce a circuit which would give me, with very few
fundamental impulses, a perfectly continuous wave. That came with the perfection of the devices. When I came to my experiments in Colorado, I
could take my apparatus like that and get a continuous or undamped wave, almost without exception, between individual discharges."

Many things can be pendulum - coil, combination of coil and capacitor,coilpacitor,oscillating magnetic field of permanent magnet,mechanical pendulum.

It's like allowing our boxer or wrestler to hit a big Tibetan gong.The result of small amount of hits one after another separated by exact period of time synchronized with gong oscillation is very very loud sound...

"That was the first single step, as I say, toward the evolution of an invention which I have called my
"magnifying transmitter." That means, a circuit connected to ground and to the antenna, of a tremendous electromagnetic momentum and small
damping factor, with all the conditions so determined that an immense accumulation of electrical energy can take place"

Exactly. Pendulum can accumulate energy, however only when oscillations are not damped ,when force do not act against natural tendency and when periodical energy impulse are only slightly bigger then required to sustain continuous oscillations.

Tesla : "I mean this: If you pass a current into a circuit with large self-induction, and no radiation takes place, and you have a low resistance, there is no
possibility of this energy getting out into space; therefore, the impressed impulses accumulate."

So there is even more that first energy impulse converted into continuous oscillation.All impulses cause amplitude of oscillations to rise if done properly up to the complete damage of device. In common electric resonance circuit total resistance is zero at resonant frequency, that's why pendulum must be constructed as Tesla described with HIS resonance maintained and with electric resonance maintained also.
That would mean an electric circuit with large self-inductance and comparatively small capacitance working at resonant frequency and having special length to maintain Tesla rules.

Tesla : "You see, the apparatus which I have devised was an apparatus enabling one to produce tremendous differences of potential and currents in an
antenna circuit. These requirements must be fulfilled, whether you transmit by currents of conduction, or whether you transmit by electromagnetic
waves. You want high potential currents, you want a great amount of vibratory energy; but you can graduate this vibratory energy. By proper design
and choice of wave lengths, you can arrange it so that you get, for instance, 5 percent in these electromagnetic waves and 95 percent in the current
that goes through the earth. That is what I am doing."

EM radiation should be limited.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on September 23, 2009, 01:38:38 PM

the photon is the only particle where you can get a true 2 for 1 sale.

take advantage of it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 23, 2009, 05:50:02 PM

@ Tito

Although I don't believe in the game of secrets you are playing if you seriously have found a way to get OU while millions die from lack of water and food....I will bite my lip & tongue and just ask you the following:

From all of your posts I would like to know which of Tesla's technique in the following quote made it work for you, in other words, which patent?

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 29, 2009, 10:03:42 PM
Hi mark

You have a point there,
i think i maybe not just ready for it.

i will prove nothing but i encourage everyone to study this field if you really want to see real power!.
study the tesla's wiring style, efficiency is in there.
still tesla's technique is the superior method!. believe it or not.

PS: I take part in this forum to try and help people with information if I can and learn somethings along the way, seeing that you had to coerce Otto to give up secrets to help you get what you needed from this forum why not return the favor and help us all achieve OU!

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 16, 2009, 10:00:24 PM
hi sir otto good day!!!

i would like to thank for your informative info where i learned a lot.

i would like you to know also that YOU are very big part of my success.

i made you feel bad just to squeeze some secret info from you, didn't you notice that sir ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ;D ;D

Thank you very much sir!

otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MasterPlaster on September 23, 2009, 06:23:59 PM

@Goat,
Never plead to a little man.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 23, 2009, 06:50:47 PM

Quote from: MasterPlaster on September 23, 2009, 06:23:59 PM
@Goat,
Never plead to a little man.

@ MasterPlaster

I agree with you to a certain point, until it's proven real or fraud even Tesla or Einstein like minds are sometimes hard to get to! Sometimes they are eccentric in their ways....even at the cost of humanity ???

The OU scene is alive and well, complete with scammers and schemers...I've yet to find OU anywhere even on an OU forum... ??? ... LOL

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2009, 01:34:34 AM

Hi goat good day

what i'm saying is, as i am studying tesla's different kinds of patent, i concentrated most in this patents:
a) U.S. Patent 0,568,178 -
b) U.S. Patent 0,568,179 -
c) U.S. Patent 0,568,180 -
d) U.S. Patent 0,577,670 -

i've read also the teslas interview what forest's is posting in this subject

and i come up in a very simple solution when i combine bearden and bedini's technology.

sorry buddy i cannot give my circuit yet but i'm telling you the truth. :(

the only thing that i did not give is the arrangement of the circuit. ok its an rlc.

DO YOU KNOW THAT USING THIS METHOD CAN GENERATE KLWATT FROM A 1.5 VOLTS!
ofcource sub-staging technique must be used ok. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2009, 02:01:21 AM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on September 23, 2009, 01:38:38 PM
the photon is the only particle where you can get a true 2 for 1 sale.

take advantage of it.

ya i beleive you. using many mirrors actually can make a lot of particle from one to many, and we can concentrate that into one point to cook our dinner ok? ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2009, 02:05:46 AM

Quote from: otto on September 23, 2009, 03:13:47 AM
Hello all,

just "shake" your coils and you will have an energy amplification.

Otto

ya your absolutely correct!, just add some capacitor plus a little input to make it work ok. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: otto on September 29, 2009, 02:09:59 AM

Hello all,

fine and nice.

Now we have Tito who doesnt want to share his "secret".
Now Grumpy made a statement that he doesnt want to go public.
We are waiting for Bruce_TPU to post what he has.

May I ask you people what youre doing here??

@Tito

not bad but could it be better? I mean a kilowatt is fine but .....

Otto

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 29, 2009, 02:13:43 AM

I need 30kW to heat my house :o I hope soon :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2009, 02:21:48 AM

Quote from: otto on September 29, 2009, 02:09:59 AM
Hello all,

fine and nice.

Now we have Tito who doesnt want to share his "secret".
Now Grumpy made a statement that he doesnt want to go public.
We are waiting for Bruce_TPU to post what he has.

May I ask you people what youre doing here??

@Tito

not bad but could it be better? I mean a kilowatt is fine but .....

Otto

Sorry sir, it is not that i don't want to share, i'm not just ready for now.

i'm saying the reality of possibility 1.5v > 1kw beleive it! tesla is not lying in his magnifying transmitter!

i'm here to tell the truth but not to tell in detail my hardwork! sorry.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2009, 02:35:05 AM

Quote from: otto on September 29, 2009, 02:09:59 AM

Now we have Tito who doesnt want to share his "secret".

May I ask you people what youre doing here??

Otto

sorry sir otto if i say this, but even you, you also not giving a complete info of your discovery am i right?

ok you can now be mad at me as i'm telling this truth ok!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: otto on September 29, 2009, 02:38:58 AM

Hello all,

@Tito

no problem if you dont want to share.

Of course Tesla did the right thing. With his core/caps and coils and the particles from outside he got what he wanted. Not to forget the spark gaps he used.

Your system gives you 1kW. Thats really good but you have NOT totally "opened" you system.

Think about how you can get muuuuuuch more.

Otto

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 29, 2009, 02:42:53 AM

The problem is in energy transfer and usage. We know that energy can be raised by doing disruptive discharge along with resonant circuit. What we don't know yet is how to extract energy from pendulum.
That is the final part we have to learn - how to force all common electrons from air and ground and water to do work in HF HV envinronment without disturbing resonance.
Any tip ? Some are telling us that we have to charge a large HV capacitors bank and then dissipate slowly energy by using inverter. (Don Smith)
Seems good, but I would rather like to use energy directly to power 30kW resistive heater (which I'll make myself too). The others say that the way to power load is to adjust or hold resonance when parameters of load are changed (Kapanadze)
This is that step which separate toy Tesla coil shown on youtube from real energy recoverable power source as shown by Kapanadze for example.

I saw that energy, it's really easy to see it - every electrostatic source is such energy source - old TV set, plasma globe, even old sweater... The hard task is to tap it and use it...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2009, 02:43:02 AM

Quote from: forest on September 29, 2009, 02:13:43 AM
I need 30kW to heat my house :o I hope soon :'(

1.5v source is very small for an appliances, design is limited by your imagination.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2009, 02:54:45 AM

Quote from: otto on September 29, 2009, 02:38:58 AM
Hello all,

@Tito

no problem if you dont want to share.

Of course Tesla did the right thing. With his core/caps and coils and the particles from outside he got what he wanted. Not to forget the spark gaps he used.

Your system gives you 1kW. Thats really good but you have NOT totally "opened" you system.

Think about how you can get muuuuuuch more.

Otto

i think you don't understand the logic sir, because if you can get 1k from 1.5v how much more if you use 3v,6v, 12v, 24v.

imagination is the limit ok.

tesla's spark gaps are obsolete, we have a much better solution to that ok.

a matter of series and parallel connection will solve your problem ok its an elementary technique ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 29, 2009, 03:09:52 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2009, 02:54:45 AM
i think you don't understand the logic sir, because if you can get 1k from 1.5v how much more if you use 3v,6v, 12v, 24v.

imagination is the limit ok.

tesla's spark gaps are obsolete, we have a much better solution to that ok. (...)

which one ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2009, 03:15:21 AM

Quote from: forest on September 29, 2009, 03:09:52 AM
which one ?

actually 24v is much better.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: otto on September 29, 2009, 03:21:19 AM

Hello all,

@Tito

I understand the logic here, dont worry.

Of course, Im NOT using spark gaps. Thats clear and yes, there are much better solutions.

I have NO PROBLEMS!!

Otto

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2009, 03:26:10 AM

Quote from: otto on September 29, 2009, 03:21:19 AM
Hello all,

@Tito

I understand the logic here, dont worry.

Of course, Im NOT using spark gaps. Thats clear and yes, there are much better solutions.

I have NO PROBLEMS!!

Otto

sorry sir.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 29, 2009, 03:30:20 AM

what is better then spark gap ? rotary interrupter ? do we have any solid state device capable of doing the same job for a long time ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumpy on September 29, 2009, 08:02:12 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2009, 02:54:45 AM
tesla's spark gaps are obsolete, we have a much better solution to that ok.

a matter of series and parallel connection will solve your problem ok its an elementary technique ;D

semiconductor switches in avalanche mode or simply switched - transistors, MOSFETs, etc.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 29, 2009, 08:16:08 AM

while we are here - question about mosfets : can they work in HV ? well I know that most cannot work above 1000V , but I saw Don Smith schematic and he states that by using proper voltage dividers they CAN switch huge power (amps at high voltage). Do they work in floating mode (not grounded) with proper voltage difference between gate,source and drain terminals while switching HV ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on September 29, 2009, 12:00:20 PM

@Tito L. Oracion

Been reading this thread and I only have two questions that will NOT push you to give out anything and will give guys here a better understanding of what they are not doing with their devices.

So my questions is................................

1) How many steps does your device have to go through to produce your output. I am not asking which steps but how many.

2) How many loops are in your steps.

You can answer these questions with numbers only like 5-1, meaning five steps and one loop, or, 6-2, and so on.

Thanks in advance.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 29, 2009, 02:15:33 PM

wattsup,

by loop do you mean positive feedback ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on September 29, 2009, 04:55:25 PM

@forest

You can actually call it whatever, but I don't think it is feedback. Feedback for me means a small portion of the output (or from anywhere else on the circuit) is sent back to give another pulsing signal. What I mean by loop means portions of a circuit that permit the total output or a serious part thereof feeding back to a source point that then increases the overall energy driving the circuit. But not feedback. But @tito could be using 0 loops with 15 steps. What I am curious about is only that, how many steps, and if used, how many loops.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 29, 2009, 10:12:11 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2009, 01:34:34 AM
Hi goat good day

what i'm saying is, as i am studying tesla's different kinds of patent, i concentrated most in this patents:
a) U.S. Patent 0,568,178 -
b) U.S. Patent 0,568,179 -
c) U.S. Patent 0,568,180 -
d) U.S. Patent 0,577,670 -

i've read also the teslas interview what forest's is posting in this subject

and i come up in a very simple solution when i combine bearden and bedini's technology.

sorry buddy i cannot give my circuit yet but i'm telling you the truth. :(

the only thing that i did not give is the arrangement of the circuit. ok its an rlc.

DO YOU KNOW THAT USING THIS METHOD CAN GENERATE KLWATT FROM A 1.5 VOLTS!
ofcource sub-staging technique must be used ok. 8)

Thanks for the info Tito :)

The Tesla Patents you posted are a great hint in but I'm at a loss for crossing over from his circuits to Bearden and Bedini's technology to turn it into an OU circuit.... ???....

The Devil's in the details and I'm not accomplished enough to put the puzzle all together yet so I'll wait.

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2009, 01:51:33 AM

Quote from: wattsup on September 29, 2009, 12:00:20 PM
@Tito L. Oracion

Been reading this thread and I only have two questions that will NOT push you to give out anything and will give guys here a better understanding of what they are not doing with their devices.

So my questions is................................

1) How many steps does your device have to go through to produce your output. I am not asking which steps but how many.

2) How many loops are in your steps.

You can answer these questions with numbers only like 5-1, meaning five steps and one loop, or, 6-2, and so on.

Thanks in advance.

wattsup

hi sir good day! ;D
actually it depends how you started it, and how you make your transformer, its just a matter of transformer technique, the secret is how will you make a connection from the source of not making it drained and making huge amount of electricity from a small source. that is i beleive the real secret of our previous inventors and scientist like tesla, hubbard, moray etc.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2009, 07:43:33 AM

ok

its a case to case basis when i tried 1.5v > 1klw well its

1.5v>3v>6V>12v and thats it.

but..........................

for every steps there are branches of many energy producers ok!

inverters are available ready made in the market all you need is that you must have the energy needed by the inverter ok 8)

thank you very much bye for now, i'm busy making more power.

the more the circuit the better the performance in the sence of durability.
:-X

by the way, no one is prohibiting us to use charcoal isn't it, which is very much safe and available than radium. ::)

Tesla made lightning of 13MV, why can't we? can't we not use that into a
useable energy?
how to control a big machine or a rocket using only a push button?

how to control an elephant?

what is yin and yang ::)

WE ARE VERY LUCKY TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF TOOLS TO USE.
EVERYTHING IS READY MADE, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS CHEW IT , THINK AND COMBINE.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2009, 08:46:28 AM

HI EVERYONE GOOD DAY! ;D

WHY WE MAKE THINGS SO DIFFICULT ???

BATTERY IS A PERFECT SOURCE OF INPUT.

Einstein says why you have to measure it by your self?
that is already in the book.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2009, 08:58:46 AM

Hi everyone

TPU is good but for me now i am not interested anymore. i have my own way ok.

nothing but a junk!

this is just one of tesla patent that he cares not verymuch ok.

Sorry for all tpu fans but its true there are much more better way to make things good ok. don't stuck your self from this tpu subject let it die ok.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MasterPlaster on September 30, 2009, 10:01:57 AM

You need to understand about core saturation.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: otto on October 01, 2009, 02:23:35 AM

Hello all,

@Tito

why to let the TPU die?

Dont you see it?

Its the same principle as you use it. Its "only" a conversion device like Tesla, Mory, Sweet....and others had done it many years ago and now we are again "inventing" them. To say it in this way.

So, I see no reason to stop my work on a TPU. And I will NEVER give up because I see no reason why to stop.

Otto

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ronotte on October 01, 2009, 08:11:35 AM

Hello all,

if I am not wrong this thread should deal with Tesla technology and especially on 'Energy Amplification' so perhaps it is a clever idea to return to origin.

TESLA TMT

I wonder, as not seen in other threads, if anybody did really tested the Tesla TMT targeting exactly the E.A....if positive I would appreciate very much to get a link OR enter in contact with sombody that already seriously tested that device.

I am referring to TMT operating at 7 MHz similar to one realized & demonstrated by K. Meyl. Said device does really show the presence of longitudinal wave and the weird TX-Rx virtual connection with some power coming indeed not from conventional sources.

...I thought often about it and I still pondering if collecting energy from many radio-kind receivers does lead to costless power without any impact on the radio-transmitter itself. To bring some new (perhapsâ€¦) I will detail a longitudinal wave approach instead of the classical Hertzian wave (transverse) interpretation according to Maxwell equations.

So let us start from the beginning.
The discovery of the Tesla radiation is denied and isnâ€™t mentioned in the textbooks anymore mainly because lacking of a suitable field description. The Maxwell equations in any case only describe transverse waves, for which the field pointers oscillate transverse to the direction of propagation. What intrigues me is the so called â€˜Vortex modelâ€™ associated with the Longitudinal waves so often cited. The question thus is asked, what the divergence E describes in this case? How is the impulse passed on, so that a longitudinal standing wave can form? How should a shock wave come about, if there are no particles which can push each other? The now often found answer is extending Maxwellâ€™s field theory for vortices of the electric field. These so-called potential vortices are able to form structure and they propagate in space for reason of their particle nature as a longitudinal shock wave. The model concept bases on the ring vortex model of Hermann von Helmholtz.

Now let us go back to Teslaâ€™s TMT.

With reference to attached pic, If both electrodes are pulled apart, then between both you find an electric field. The field lines start at one sphere, the transmitter, and they regroup again at the receiver. If a sinusoidal waveform is step up in the transmitter, then it is again step down at the receiver. The output voltage should be smaller or at maximum equal the input voltage: thatâ€™s the standard understanding.

ACTUALLY IT SEEMS THAT MANY SCIENTISTS FOUND THAT MUCH BIGGER!

If the law of conservation of energy should not be violated, then only one interpretation is left: the open capacitor withdraws field energy from its environment.

Near field interpretation
The effects measured in the near field of an antenna appear weird, because they evade the normally used field theory, but seems to fit close the scalar wave hypothesis. A possible suggested explanation goes like that: The charge carriers which oscillate with high-frequency in an antenna rod form longitudinal standing waves. As a result also the fields in the near zone of a Hertzian dipole are longitudinal scalar wave fields.

Vortex interpretation
An interpretation could be the following: The vortex decay depends on the velocity of propagation which seems several scientist (Tesla, Dollard, etc) have calculated > than EM velocity, so major than c. These very fast vortices behaves in a weird way: no Faraday cage is able to shield: they donÂ´t have a charge on the average over time. As a result they almost unhindered penetrate solids. t may be that the surplus energy coming out from the receiver is a neutrinos by-products. Well I may add that I know an inventor (Shad) which is supplying a similar kind of device called â€˜neutrino eggâ€™.

Considerations:
Finally I wonder if that concept could be exploited laying for example 8 receivers in the near field of a single pancake Tesla transmitter (TMT) and collecting in series the Receivers output, much like the various Hubbard like topologies.

Literature
1 Nikola Tesla: Apparatus for transmission of electrical energy. US-Patent No.

645,576, N.Y. 20.3.1900.
2 Nikola Tesla: Art of transmitting electrical energy through the natural mediums,

US-Patent No. 787,412, N.Y. 18.4.1905.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 01, 2009, 08:46:02 AM

About Tesla Magnifying Transmitter

Tesla said it will run idle when there is no receiver.Energy is preserved.
I think energy transfer in case of existing receiver may be such, that first current is send through the Earth at speed c, then returns somehow via elevated capacitances ,then stationary wave is formed. Much like in capacitor. In fact Earth is one plate while both elevated capacitances are second plate.
It is oscillating circuit IMHO.

But let's look at it from simpler point of view : we know that Tesla coil is able to step up voltage much higher then normal transformer. All we need is just : take for example half of that raised voltage and convert into amperage .

How ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 01, 2009, 08:46:22 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2009, 07:43:33 AM
ok

its a case to case basis when i tried 1.5v > 1klw well its

1.5v>3v>6V>12v and thats it.

but..........................

for every steps there are branches of many energy producers ok!

inverters are available ready made in the market all you need is that you must have the energy needed by the inverter ok 8)

thank you very much bye for now, i'm busy making more power.

the more the circuit the better the performance in the sence of durability.
:-X

by the way, no one is prohibiting us to use charcoal isn't it, which is very much safe and available than radium. ::)

Tesla made lightning of 13MV, why can't we? can't we not use that into a
useable energy?
how to control a big machine or a rocket using only a push button?

how to control an elephant?

what is yin and yang ::)

WE ARE VERY LUCKY TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF TOOLS TO USE.
EVERYTHING IS READY MADE, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS CHEW IT , THINK AND COMBINE.

@Tito L. Oracion

OK, thank-you for your kind reply. I understand everything you are saying and it does make sense. Of course it makes more sense for you since you are the maker, but I really do understand the general idea.

Funny you should mention those Tesla patents which are variations that also include the Tesla Ozone Patent No. 568,177. That patent is a prime step that any OUer should know about as a basic method. The only part is the end usage to concentrate the high voltage into lower voltage higher amperage. That is where the battle will be won.

So creating a short (Relay, Switch, Rotary, Transistor, Mosfet - or other) over a DC supply and disconnecting that via one or more high inductance coils, one or more charge capacitors, one or more (series or parallel) working transformers and you can do what Tesla always said did not waste energy, and that is working with damped waves permits you to return most all the energy back to the source. I think that is what you mean by using small energy. You can use small energy at a time, but you can use bigger energy and give most of it back and that consumes the same as the small energy. lol

Meaning, you can run a very small circuit using a battery and consuming only .1 amp at 12 volts and never returning this energy back, or, you can use 12 volts at 4 amps with the Tesla method and put back into the battery 3.9 amps. Both ways you are consuming only 1.2 watts but the second way you are running a much bigger device hence you have a better chance of getting more output. Makes perfect sense.

So I gather by indicating an inverter, your main device output is 12 vdc with good enough amperage to run an inverter and get your 220vac at 5 amps 50hz output. OK sounds logical but only if the 12vdc production is clean and steady otherwise most commercial inverters will go into an automatic shut-down. Hmmmm.

Also, regarding wasting time on the TPUs, in a very big way you are right that it is a waste of time because anyways, we will never be able to prove whatever we make, even if it follows the style of an SM TPU, will be exactly like the original, but again, who cares. Some are close enough and I am also especially working on and learning from the FTPU. But it does not stop us from doing other things in between. lol

Added:

@ronotte

Just saw your post at same time as mine. Hmmmmm.

Good ideas.

I am putting a diagram I made a good while ago that I think is close to what you are saying.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 01, 2009, 08:53:42 AM

Quote from: wattsup on October 01, 2009, 08:46:22 AM
@Tito L. Oracion

OK, thank-you for your kind reply. I understand everything you are saying and it does make sense. Of course it makes more sense for you since you are the maker, but I really do understand the general idea.

Funny you should mention those Tesla patents which are variations that also include the Tesla Ozone Patent No. 568,177. That patent is a prime step that any OUer should know about as a basic method. The only part is the end usage to concentrate the high voltage into lower voltage higher amperage. That is where the battle will be won.

So creating a short (Relay, Switch, Rotary, Transistor, Mosfet - or other) over a DC supply and disconnecting that via one or more high inductance coils, one or more charge capacitors, one or more (series or parallel) working transformers and you can do what Tesla always said did not waste energy, and that is working with damped waves permits you to return most all the energy back to the source. I think that is what you mean by using small energy. You can use small energy at a time, but you can use bigger energy and give most of it back and that consumes the same as the small energy. lol

Meaning, you can run a very small circuit using a battery and consuming only .1 amp at 12 volts and never returning this energy back, or, you can use 12 volts at 4 amps with the Tesla method and put back into the battery 3.9 amps. Both ways you are consuming only 1.2 watts but the second way you are running a much bigger device hence you have a better chance of getting more output. Makes perfect sense.

So I gather by indicating an inverter, your main device output is 12 vdc with good enough amperage to run an inverter and get your 220vac at 5 amps 50hz output. OK sounds logical but only if the 12vdc production is clean and steady otherwise most commercial inverters will go into an automatic shut-down. Hmmmm.

Also, regarding wasting time on the TPUs, in a very big way you are right that it is a waste of time because anyways, we will never be able to prove whatever we make, even if it follows the style of an SM TPU, will be exactly like the original, but again, who cares. Some are close enough and I am also especially working on and learning from the FTPU. But it does not stop us from doing other things in between. lol

wattsup,

While you are perfectly right about returning most of energy back to source in such way as to not deplete it but recharge, that will not explain all those devices which are self-runners with power source disconnected after first kick-start - vide Kapanadze device

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 01, 2009, 09:02:53 AM

There is another excerpt from Tesla interview which surprised me.

"Counsel

And would it also be necessary to provide for the high potentials of the order of which you have named in order to insure maximum direct currents and minimum electromagnetic wave radiation?

Tesla

No sir. The currents are proportionate to the potentials which are developed under otherwise equal conditions. If you have an antenna of a certain capacity charged to 100,000 volts, you will get a certain current; charged to 200,000 volts, twice the current. When I spoke of these enormous potentials, I was describing an industrial plant on a large scale because that was the most important application of these principles, but I have also pointed out in my patents that the same principles can be applied to telegraphy and other purposes. That is simply a question of how much power you want to transmit.

Counsel

In Colorado, which did you use?

Tesla

I used the so-called Tesla transformer. I did not have the high frequency machine with [me] which I could develop as much energy for the experiments, but with my transformer I could get any amount of energy I
needed. That is why I used the transformer."

If that is not a statement about free energy then it must be a lapse of speech...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 01, 2009, 09:52:48 AM

Quote from: forest on October 01, 2009, 08:53:42 AM

wattsup,

While you are perfectly right about returning most of energy back to source in such way as to not deplete it but recharge, that will not explain all those devices which are self-runners with power source disconnected after first kick-start - vide Kapanadze device

That would be the next step once your device works without lowering battery voltage, then using a high uf capacitor would be a choice to start removing the battery from the system.

Would the following be correct or possible as my EE acumen stinks.

If I take good uf capacitor and send on side through a zenor diode of let's say 5 vdc to run a circuit. The zenor gives the 5vdc from the capacitor to the circuit and the capacitor falls to let's say 2 or 1 vdc. The circuit then returns this energy as very high voltage back to the capacitor bringing the voltage back up and permitting the zenor to provide a next 5 vdc to the circuit. So the question is can a zenor diode be used in this manner. Almost like a voltage gain sensing diode relay. if so, man, that would be great.

Maybe we are detracting from @Tito's subject. Hmmmmm. Always happens. lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ronotte on October 01, 2009, 11:15:04 AM

@ Tito,

I apologize for intruding into you thread: of course I am following your very interesting project!
anyway if any problem just let me know as I could create a new thread (I did not that in order do not create too many threads).

@Wattsup

Hey, nice to meet you again.....always intrigued by retro-engineering TPU? To answer your question, Yes what you posted is exactly what I did...and it works. To cut it short I checked TRUE the following:

- Presence of a 'near field' (around the Tx unit and within a space of about 1.5 meters) where the Maxwell equations does apply.

- Presence of a 'far field' ( distance > 3 meters from Tx) where the Maxwell equations does not fully describe the EM behavior

- In the latter point I have been unable to shield the Rx unit: if it does go in synch (with Tx unit) it stays synched whatever shielding action you do!

- The Tx and Rx unit even if connected only trough ground does appear like fully connected and if you load the RX you obtain a DECREASE on the load that the TX poses on the input exciter.

- The additional power gathered by the Rx is amazing: where does it comes from...the environment?

The minimum topology tested makes it difficult to deal with data so I am building additional Rx units to check easily on the power I/O numbers.

ronotte

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 02, 2009, 07:57:37 AM

Quote from: otto on October 01, 2009, 02:23:35 AM
Hello all,

@Tito

why to let the TPU die?

Dont you see it?

Its the same principle as you use it. Its "only" a conversion device like Tesla, Mory, Sweet....and others had done it many years ago and now we are again "inventing" them. To say it in this way.

So, I see no reason to stop my work on a TPU. And I will NEVER give up because I see no reason why to stop.

Otto

hi sir good day

well sir that is just a wild advise, because tpu the way i see it is an old topic that wasting precious time of its fans, well i'm one of them ;D

but sometimes, for me it is better to do some work originated by yourself because it gives a better pleasure. :)

i even made a tpu version of mine, well it works but its too much complicated and i believe sm's design is not the same as mine. because my tpu works even in inverted position ;D i don't know why? lol ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: otto on October 02, 2009, 08:18:21 AM

Hello all,

@Tito

trust me you will again work on your TPU.

The newer versions of the TPU are made in that manner that they can be in an inverted position and work.

Yes, the work on a TPU can sometime be boring for some people but for me its fascinating. Every day a new discovery. Fantastic.

Otto

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 02, 2009, 08:30:10 AM

Quote from: wattsup on October 01, 2009, 08:46:22 AM
@Tito L. Oracion

OK, thank-you for your kind reply. I understand everything you are saying and it does make sense. Of course it makes more sense for you since you are the maker, but I really do understand the general idea.

Funny you should mention those Tesla patents which are variations that also include the Tesla Ozone Patent No. 568,177. That patent is a prime step that any OUer should know about as a basic method. The only part is the end usage to concentrate the high voltage into lower voltage higher amperage. That is where the battle will be won.

So creating a short (Relay, Switch, Rotary, Transistor, Mosfet - or other) over a DC supply and disconnecting that via one or more high inductance coils, one or more charge capacitors, one or more (series or parallel) working transformers and you can do what Tesla always said did not waste energy, and that is working with damped waves permits you to return most all the energy back to the source. I think that is what you mean by using small energy. You can use small energy at a time, but you can use bigger energy and give most of it back and that consumes the same as the small energy. lol

Meaning, you can run a very small circuit using a battery and consuming only .1 amp at 12 volts and never returning this energy back, or, you can use 12 volts at 4 amps with the Tesla method and put back into the battery 3.9 amps. Both ways you are consuming only 1.2 watts but the second way you are running a much bigger device hence you have a better chance of getting more output. Makes perfect sense.

So I gather by indicating an inverter, your main device output is 12 vdc with good enough amperage to run an inverter and get your 220vac at 5 amps 50hz output. OK sounds logical but only if the 12vdc production is clean and steady otherwise most commercial inverters will go into an automatic shut-down. Hmmmm.

Also, regarding wasting time on the TPUs, in a very big way you are right that it is a waste of time because anyways, we will never be able to prove whatever we make, even if it follows the style of an SM TPU, will be exactly like the original, but again, who cares. Some are close enough and I am also especially working on and learning from the FTPU. But it does not stop us from doing other things in between. lol

Added:

@ronotte

Just saw your post at same time as mine. Hmmmmm.

Good ideas.

I am putting a diagram I made a good while ago that I think is close to what you are saying.

hI SIR GOOD DAY!!! ;D

BINGO!!!
I intentionally not included that patent because that is where i am is working, your very good sir! ;D

You always admire me with your post sir , your so kind and i'm honored being with you here sir. I also learned a lot from your post sir thank you very much.

i just want you to know that i'm an avid fan of your posts, they realy makes me to think and revised always my works! ;D

all you've said are absolutely correct!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 02, 2009, 08:40:27 AM

Quote from: ronotte on October 01, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
@ Tito,

I apologize for intruding into you thread: of course I am following your very interesting project!
anyway if any problem just let me know as I could create a new thread (I did not that in order do not create too many threads).

No sir its okay, your very much welcome ! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nutsNbolts on October 03, 2009, 10:19:19 AM

ello Tito

Perhaps you should contack Dr S Greer. He has the infrastructure set up to see new energy is safely distributed. That's if you are for real and not cohersing others to do your experiments for you.

http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/29990/Dr__Steven_Greer_The_Promise_of_New_Energy/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 04, 2009, 02:21:36 AM

Quote from: nutsNbolts on October 03, 2009, 10:19:19 AM
ello Tito

Perhaps you should contack Dr S Greer. He has the infrastructure set up to see new energy is safely distributed. That's if you are for real and not cohersing others to do your experiments for you.

http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/29990/Dr__Steven_Greer_The_Promise_of_New_Energy/ (http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/29990/Dr__Steven_Greer_The_Promise_of_New_Energy/)

hi sir good day! ;D

Actually i'm thinking for that but i have to be very carefull of course its like making an experiment you have to consider many things ok.

i am not cohersing others, i want them to discover it themselves, i believe if your a researcher, you can notice if what i'm saying here has sence ok.

i'm telling you and i promise you that my system is very easy to replicate, very easy to do it really change the way we use a source !

i'm repeating what i am is always saying, the secret is in the arrangement of battery, coil, capacitor and diode.

did you realized a tesla switch? how easy and simple to replicate, ron cole even made an inovation for it using only 2 capacitor and 1 battery but still the result is the same ok. the only challenge is how to make a durable switching technique.

do you know that even in hardware store you can make a design of durable switch.

did you try in tesla switch pulsing a coil and feed that to inverter, ofcourse rectify it first! 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 04, 2009, 08:14:17 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 04, 2009, 02:21:36 AM
hi sir good day! ;D

Actually i'm thinking for that but i have to be very carefull of course its like making an experiment you have to consider many things ok.

i am not cohersing others, i want them to discover it themselves, i believe if your a researcher, you can notice if what i'm saying here has sence ok.

i'm telling you and i promise you that my system is very easy to replicate, very easy to do it really change the way we use a source !

i'm repeating what i am is always saying, the secret is in the arrangement of battery, coil, capacitor and diode.

did you realized a tesla switch? how easy and simple to replicate, ron cole even made an inovation for it using only 2 capacitor and 1 battery but still the result is the same ok. the only challenge is how to make a durable switching technique.

do you know that even in hardware store you can make a design of durable switch.

did you try in tesla switch pulsing a coil and feed that to inverter, ofcourse rectify it first! 8)

@Tito
Is your capacitor unconnected from power source during disruptive discharge and energy is recovered later or you found a way to sent part of energy not used back to power source directly while discharging capacitor ?
Lately I discovered something what Tesla surely realized when he was observing discharge from Edison HV DC generators ,when they were quickly powered on. All I need is information about radiant energy event which occurred when DC generators where switched on - was that a rare accident or very common ? 100% reproducible or rather random ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 07, 2009, 10:49:27 PM

Quote from: forest on October 04, 2009, 08:14:17 AM
@Tito
Is your capacitor unconnected from power source during disruptive discharge and energy is recovered later or you found a way to sent part of energy not used back to power source directly while discharging capacitor ?
Lately I discovered something what Tesla surely realized when he was observing discharge from Edison HV DC generators ,when they were quickly powered on. All I need is information about radiant energy event which occurred when DC generators where switched on - was that a rare accident or very common ? 100% reproducible or rather random ?

BIG YES THAT IS 100% REPRODUCIBLE!.

Sorry i do not want to answer you in detail but your very near ;D

Capturing radiant energy is easy, i beleive you can solve that.

be carefull sir because many died in that incident.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 08, 2009, 02:56:45 AM

The best way to store electrons is not by capacitor or batteries, it is by superconductors, neither could compare.

Using superconductors to capture and store the decay energy of Beta emitters is so far the safest civilian nuclear and would be very highly efficient, depending on the nuclear Isotope one could run for a decade or even hundreds or even thousands of years before it needed the isotope replaced, using Tritium the cell would stay charged for 12.3 years before half of the nuclear material needed to be replaced. if you are interested I could build a Beta decay Isotope list specifically for this purpose. but unless people are really interested I would be wasting my time.

lose not, waste not.
Jerry 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 08, 2009, 02:59:48 AM

Tito

So you are using high self-inductance coil to cut power source connection while capacitor is doing disruptive discharge into working circuit, meaning that in this step energy is not lost by heating power source battery.
That is I think what Tesla realized after seeing radiant energy discharge and investigating it. Quenching circuit which allows unidirectional discharge of capacitor (still oscillating but that another story). In case of Edison DC generators it was due to badly constructed commutator with dead spot which quenched discharge at spark gap (=power switch).
I yet have to find Edison patent to confirm that and also chronology of improvements. The most useful would be to know the list of issues that Tesla had to improve in Edison generators.
This is how I see it :

if electrical energy is condensed and pumped into wire it has momentum.It is vibrating while flowing on inductance. If suddenly there is a gap in flow then it tries to return back. If return path exits that energy is dissipated by heat and light and other range EM radiation.

If return path is disconnected in correct timing energy has to be released into envinronment but it can't produce much electric field,due to missing back rush path - no EM radiation is possible or only a little.Energy is then radiated as ripple on magnetic field surrounding wires and further into ambient field, because stopped oscillation in every case has to release energy. I think we are near to find complete new science area of longitudinal magnetic waves.I'm not arrogant to state that only one kind of such phenomena is possible. I rather think it's a bunch of phenomena ,complete new spectrum of frequencies and waves.
Sorry,I tend to chatter...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 09, 2009, 06:14:23 PM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 08, 2009, 02:56:45 AM
The best way to store electrons is not by capacitor or batteries, it is by superconductors, neither could compare.

Using superconductors to capture and store the decay energy of Beta emitters is so far the safest civilian nuclear and would be very highly efficient, depending on the nuclear Isotope one could run for a decade or even hundreds or even thousands of years before it needed the isotope replaced, using Tritium the cell would stay charged for 12.3 years before half of the nuclear material needed to be replaced. if you are interested I could build a Beta decay Isotope list specifically for this purpose. but unless people are really interested I would be wasting my time.

lose not, waste not.
Jerry 8)

Hi jerry good day!

this is new to me sir, i am interested ;D

and this is great!!!

will you please demonstrate more sir.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 09, 2009, 06:31:52 PM

Quote from: forest on October 08, 2009, 02:59:48 AM
Tito

So you are using high self-inductance coil to cut power source connection while capacitor is doing disruptive discharge into working circuit, meaning that in this step energy is not lost by heating power source battery.
That is I think what Tesla realized after seeing radiant energy discharge and investigating it. Quenching circuit which allows unidirectional discharge of capacitor (still oscillating but that another story). In case of Edison DC generators it was due to badly constructed commutator with dead spot which quenched discharge at spark gap (=power switch).
I yet have to find Edison patent to confirm that and also chronology of improvements. The most useful would be to know the list of issues that Tesla had to improve in Edison generators.
This is how I see it :

if electrical energy is condensed and pumped into wire it has momentum.It is vibrating while flowing on inductance. If suddenly there is a gap in flow then it tries to return back. If return path exits that energy is dissipated by heat and light and other range EM radiation.

If return path is disconnected in correct timing energy has to be released into envinronment but it can't produce much electric field,due to missing back rush path - no EM radiation is possible or only a little.Energy is then radiated as ripple on magnetic field surrounding wires and further into ambient field, because stopped oscillation in every case has to release energy. I think we are near to find complete new science area of longitudinal magnetic waves.I'm not arrogant to state that only one kind of such phenomena is possible. I rather think it's a bunch of phenomena ,complete new spectrum of frequencies and waves.
Sorry,I tend to chatter...

some part you are correct, actually you are making it complicated its just easy ok. ;D

by the way i'm not using spark gap better to use diode and capacitor and magnet ok.

not only one high self inductance but many, you can connect them in series or parallel ok. it depends to you.

note: the used energy should not be returning to the source in order not to kill the dipole ok. :)

and the used energy can be used also as an output! ;D

plus the real output so you get the used energy and the output energy be added then you get excess then make some little charging action to make battery always alive ok.

goodbye ;D

ps: i am making a cotton candy now.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 09, 2009, 08:38:26 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 09, 2009, 06:14:23 PM
Hi jerry good day!

this is new to me sir, i am interested ;D

and this is great!!!

will you please demonstrate more sir.

Hi Tito.

I will begin building the pure Beta Isotope list maybe tomorrow, I am having a few drinks tonight and maybe a couple of video games to choke it down.

It will take a week or two to build the Beta List of complete Isotopes and break it down to more practical Isotope solutions. including energy levels. low energy beta emitters with shorter half lives are best because they offer almost no or no Gamma Ray production at all while keeping Beta collection fast and continuous.

there are two routes that are best.

Use a Radioactive Beta emitting Superconductor material that degrades over the Isotopes half life or one can use a secondary Beta emitter material to radiate a stable superconductor.

there is research needed in the area of radioactive superconductor's, for instance, YBCO, there are no Beta decaying isotopes of YBCO that has half lives into years but only have half lives within seconds, minutes, hours range. radioactive B- YBCO would offer a huge amount of energy for seconds, minutes, hours but it is to highly radioactive and doesn't last as long as years of production. to dangerous, the shorter the half life the more dangerous the isotope.

the solution is to use the superconductors ability to store electrical charges, since superconductors have no resistance they can store their own emissions in the Beta Emissions range because Beta emissions are Electrons. the Superconductor would store the charge up to its saturation point and then any additional charge is arc off as high voltage which in turn is collected to be store or used somewhere else within the electrical system.

The Radioactive Superconductor would look like a flat toroidal pancake that is levitated on a magnetic field inside a chamber in which there are terminals to collect saturation discharges from the Radioactive S/C.

a material that emits its own electrons! and collects it's own Electrons, Stores its own Electrons up until the Electrical potential saturates it, when fully self charged it would look like a highly ionized toroid ring emitting mass amounts of energy for the taking.

Nuclear Energy produces between 20,000 to 30,000 times more energy than what it took to make it.

Jerry ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 10, 2009, 08:48:09 PM

Hi Tito.

I have already started the Beta Isotopes list in Database format that way anyone can use it with graph charts or presentations or what not.

The Chart will not contain.

1. anyother decay modes besides Beta- emissions, Beta- only.
2. No Beta emitting Isotopes that are less than a year in half life. only the Isotopes that have a year or greater in half life will be listed.

I got a little detoured by the Octoberfest German Festival today but I did get some work done.

not to much longer.

Jerry ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on October 10, 2009, 09:20:55 PM

onthecuttingedge2005 said:

Quote
...the shorter the half life the more dangerous the isotope. ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn

That's right. This guy(Hahn) wasn't dealing with short half-life elements, but he didn't have to. He was turning himself into the next Madame Curie.
Short life isotopes are a lot worse than something like U-238, with a half life of 4.46 billion years.

Quote
a material that emits its own electrons! and collects it's own Electrons, Stores its own Electrons up until the Electrical potential saturates it, when fully self charged it would look like a highly ionized toroid ring emitting mass amounts of energy for the taking.

#2,847,585
Converts radiation to electricity. (There might be up to 10-15 more like this.)

http://www.google.com/patents?id=lyxeAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=radiation+electrical+generation+beta+gamma&num=100&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q=radiation%20electrical%20generation%20beta%20gamma&f=false

--Lee

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dag57 on October 10, 2009, 11:12:25 PM

hi everyone, i'v been reading your thread and enjoying it, would like to get a copy of the nikola tesla book mentioned in an earlyer post if anybody has a copy they would post or knows where to find it. the book mentioned is nikola tesla on his work with alternating currents and their application to wireless telegraphy. i've searched google several times but have not found a copy i can download anywhere yet. thanks! dag :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 11, 2009, 04:09:14 AM

well,I'd like to have that book too! Unfortunately it is not available for download on internet.However if you are in USA you can buy it, for me it's just too costly to sent it to Europe.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 11, 2009, 08:15:46 AM

Quote from: forest on October 11, 2009, 04:09:14 AM
well,I'd like to have that book too! Unfortunately it is not available for download on internet.However if you are in USA you can buy it, for me it's just too costly to sent it to Europe.

Hi,

A detailed content and figure description and several pages are here:

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm#A7

rgds, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 11, 2009, 12:16:11 PM

I am going to hold off on any database work today because I have to prepare the house for rain/snow season, I'll see about tonight to do some more work.

Jerry 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 11, 2009, 01:01:10 PM

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on October 10, 2009, 09:20:55 PM
onthecuttingedge2005 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn

That's right. This guy(Hahn) wasn't dealing with short half-life elements, but he didn't have to. He was turning himself into the next Madame Curie.
Short life isotopes are a lot worse than something like U-238, with a half life of 4.46 billion years.#2,847,585
Converts radiation to electricity. (There might be up to 10-15 more like this.)

http://www.google.com/patents?id=lyxeAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=radiation+electrical+generation+beta+gamma&num=100&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q=radiation%20electrical%20generation%20beta%20gamma&f=false

--Lee

Hi Lee.

I remember the Boyscout, quite a story.

It is pretty much research, if I was to build a beta reactor it would be a Tritium based reactor, the ampules that contain the Tritium are thick enough to prevent a Geiger counter from detecting it so shielding is easy to accomplish against the low level energies of Tritium.

Jerry

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 11, 2009, 06:36:46 PM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 11, 2009, 01:01:10 PM

hi jerry don't worry JUST TAKE YOUR TIME ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on October 11, 2009, 06:53:45 PM

gyulasun said:

Quote
A detailed content and figure description and several pages are here:
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm#A7
rgds, Gyula

@Gyula
Good book.
I found that on the smallest print size in the browser of this computer, it's 48 pp. Those drawings are more than merely *informative*. Some I never saw before. I should print off a copy while I have the money now.

--Lee

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dag57 on October 11, 2009, 10:16:39 PM

thanks @ all, if i get my hands on the tesla book i'll try and post it; till then i'll check out the website mentioned...dag

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on October 11, 2009, 11:16:56 PM

Quote from: dag57 on October 11, 2009, 10:16:39 PM
thanks @ all, if i get my hands on the tesla book i'll try and post it; till then i'll check out the website mentioned...dag

Would this one help?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/915062/The-Lost_Journals-of-Nicola-Tesla

(A lot of descriptive material, with few photos or drawings. 155pp.)

--Lee

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 12, 2009, 02:29:36 AM

I have posted the Pure Beta Emitter Isotopes Database report here;
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8160.new#new

Jerry 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 12, 2009, 07:38:05 PM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 12, 2009, 02:29:36 AM
I have posted the Pure Beta Emitter Isotopes Database report here;
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8160.new#new

Jerry 8)

Thanks buddy ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gsmsslsb on October 14, 2009, 07:28:09 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 09, 2009, 06:31:52 PM
some part you are correct, actually you are making it complicated its just easy ok. ;D

by the way i'm not using spark gap better to use diode and capacitor and magnet ok.

I am trying to grasp how the diode, capacitor and magnet take the place of the spark gap to supply a disruptive discharge.
One of the only things that I can remember that uses a capacitor and spark gap is the free energy generator from tom bearden. With the magnetic field from the magnet and the electric field from the capacitor crossing eachother but as far as I know noone has ben able to harvest the energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 14, 2009, 06:23:57 PM

when we put electrolytic cap in reverse polarity to normal electric circuit it would blow or be damaged but .... maybe there is a possibility to charge it that way really really fast and it will do something inside and become charged as always ? is this possible ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MasterPlaster on October 14, 2009, 08:43:30 PM

@forest
Interesting idea but why electrolytic cap? one could use a normal one.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 15, 2009, 04:11:39 AM

Quote from: MasterPlaster on October 14, 2009, 08:43:30 PM
@forest
Interesting idea but why electrolytic cap? one could use a normal one.

look at bearden schematic with deganerative semiconductor

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 15, 2009, 02:48:26 PM

can you charge capacitor faster then current can flow inside ? like Bearden said - by using only potential to realign the rest of electrons which are there for sure

how ?
is there a method of charging capacitor which is faster then relaxation time ? how we can charge capacitor with very short and rapidly changing voltage spike to full capacity in short time ? can we convert HV spike into constant current just inside capacitor ? what is equal to charging capacitor with constant current for infinite time while being a finite short time action?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gsmsslsb on October 16, 2009, 12:33:53 AM

Quote from: forest on October 15, 2009, 02:48:26 PM
can you charge capacitor faster then current can flow inside ? like Bearden said - by using only potential to realign the rest of electrons which are there for sure

how ?
is there a method of charging capacitor which is faster then relaxation time ? how we can charge capacitor with very short and rapidly changing voltage spike to full capacity in short time ? can we convert HV spike into constant current just inside capacitor ? what is equal to charging capacitor with constant current for infinite time while being a finite short time action?

After reading teslas ozone patent I think that may be what is happening.
He is using the spike from the colapsing field in thr motor windings and the coil to chage the cap.
then he dumps that from the cap through the primary of the coil.
Maybe this is what Tito L Oracion is doing.
That way you can just stack them up as many times as you need to with each cap dumping into a coil and collecting the spike in another cap.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MasterPlaster on October 16, 2009, 05:59:08 AM

Maybe the trick is in the dielectric.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 16, 2009, 06:37:52 AM

http://www.youtube.com/user/NRGFromTheVacuum#p/u/10/2cUS03yNl40

maybe the trick is to charge capacitor with very fast voltage spike across changing in time resistance which depends on voltage

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MasterPlaster on October 16, 2009, 12:34:59 PM

Ok forest. I saw this video over a year ago but I did not give it much credibility yet you seem so sure. I just bought some huge capacitors. If it is so easy, we shall all be having free electricity by Xmas!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: samedsoft on October 16, 2009, 01:07:18 PM

Quote from: forest on October 16, 2009, 06:37:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/NRGFromTheVacuum#p/u/10/2cUS03yNl40

maybe the trick is to charge capacitor with very fast voltage spike across changing in time resistance which depends on voltage

Can you use same capacitor on both sides. And start with with one cap at 24 V?

After you charge other one to 200 Volts you can show on camera.. Then you discharge charged cap to 0 and do it again...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 16, 2009, 01:45:22 PM

Here is a better one : http://www.youtube.com/user/NRGFromTheVacuum#p/u/0/Q6q77SZlE4Y

Look at the end for schematic, it's now more clear then previous , I hope this is still the same effect.

I saw all those videos last year and overlooked one fact.
This capacitor is never connected to battery source in closed loop !
In fact each time when it is connected to battery - it's also SHORTED!

So - YES ! it is Bearden method of charging without current ! Current flow through the coil and back to the battery while in the same time capacitor is in short-circuit.

Did I overlooked something ?

Once Tito said something about WING EDGE effect, and if you follow other thread there is Ali who invented electrical analogy to siphon effect.
Maybe it's one and the same ?

A spike of current flow through the coil and meet capacitor. Now there are where Wing Edge or Spihon effect HAS TO occur. I really have no explanation what is going on later..I have just a few ideas.At least 3 he he ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 16, 2009, 01:48:58 PM

::)

http://sssf.byethost31.com/physics1/13961.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 16, 2009, 03:12:03 PM

One thing about the 3 metals vid, is the input voltage is different for each one. When he did the copper, the input was 3v higher than the others, which could make up the difference in the outcome.
But I am liking this whole idea beyond that vid.
I suppose the capacitor dumping into the coil has much more brute force compared to a battery. So the impedance initially will be greater at the coil using a cap instead of the battery, thus not much being taken from the cap compared to the battery, but the effect is greater.
Keep it up guys, this is very good. =]
Magluvin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on October 16, 2009, 04:19:25 PM

@ Forest

I very much liked reading the - a bumble bee shouldn't be able to fly - you posted and the Wing Edge effect, I watched the video and took a screen capture of the circuit (see below).

I'm also attaching a picture from Tesla's patent 577670 as I can see a Wing Edge effect because in this patent Tesla was using a 1/3 ON to 2/3 OFF timing circuit which is like an energy pump to the capacitor(s) rapidly firing while also charging the next cap in succession, the circuit is brilliant!

The third pic I'm attaching may not be relevant, it's been on my mind for awhile just never tried it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on October 16, 2009, 06:27:55 PM

@ All

Can anyone replicate Tesla's patent in the Tesla_577670.jpg image to a solid state circuit?

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 16, 2009, 06:38:20 PM

Quote from: forest on October 16, 2009, 01:45:22 PM
Here is a better one : http://www.youtube.com/user/NRGFromTheVacuum#p/u/0/Q6q77SZlE4Y

Look at the end for schematic, it's now more clear then previous , I hope this is still the same effect.

I saw all those videos last year and overlooked one fact.
This capacitor is never connected to battery source in closed loop !
In fact each time when it is connected to battery - it's also SHORTED!

So - YES ! it is Bearden method of charging without current ! Current flow through the coil and back to the battery while in the same time capacitor is in short-circuit.

Did I overlooked something ?

Once Tito said something about WING EDGE effect, and if you follow other thread there is Ali who invented electrical analogy to siphon effect.
Maybe it's one and the same ?

A spike of current flow through the coil and meet capacitor. Now there are where Wing Edge or Spihon effect HAS TO occur. I really have no explanation what is going on later..I have just a few ideas.At least 3 he he ;D

Hi Forest,

My understanding on the circuit shown in the video is that when the two switches are activated, current is taken from the input source (either from a battery or from a capacitor), hence energy is CONSUMED from the source.

And when the switches are opened, the flyback pulse from the coil charges up the output capacitor (Notice there must be a certain time difference in the switch-off operation of the switches with respect to each other so that the flyback pulse should be able to charge up the output cap before the circuit is fully opened with the switch in series with the coil).

So my question is why is it said that charging the cap cost no current (from the input source)?

Current is actually taken from the source by the coil, hence the magnetic energy thus created in the coil is transferred into a capacitor from the flyback pulse's energy. Normally these two energies (i.e. the one stored in the coil and the one received in the capacitor) are pretty much the same (the difference comes mainly from coil losses).

It would be good to know the self inductance of the coil and make some calculations to compare the magnetic energy stored in the coil and the electric energy captured from the flyback pulse and collected in the capacitor.

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MasterPlaster on October 16, 2009, 06:41:03 PM

What is Wing Edge Effect? My search returned nothing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 17, 2009, 05:14:07 AM

Look at the place of coil and switch.IMHO if that was charging by flyback that would recharge source capacitor or battery. How flyback can be generated in unconnected part of circuit which has no coil ?

To make it clear someone should test a modified circuit but I really don't know if correct switching could be done in such case.

(I have no room to fully make down switch but you should see what I mean.)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 17, 2009, 05:18:02 AM

Quote from: MasterPlaster on October 16, 2009, 06:41:03 PM
What is Wing Edge Effect? My search returned nothing.

"A wing is a device which encourages the air to flow over it so that when it leaves the rear wing edge, the air moves downwards. That produces a thrust upwards on the wing. A smoke-filled wind tunnel shows this beautifully with curling eddies of smoke flicking off the wing edges. Unfortunately to make a good eddy takes time. The wing has to move a few times its own length to get things started. This makes it tricky if you are going to flap as the maximum travel of a wing is about its own length and very little lift is generated for most of the stroke. Nature has come up with a number of interesting solutions to this problem of which the "clap-fling" is a good example. When a small bird or insect wants to take off it needs a lot of lift. What it does is bring its wings together above its back so they clap, expelling air from between them. As the wings are separated, air is drawn quickly in to fill the void. The wings are flung apart and lift is generated immediately as the air is already in motion in the correct way. "

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 17, 2009, 06:24:36 AM

Quote from: forest on October 17, 2009, 05:14:07 AM
Look at the place of coil and switch.IMHO if that was charging by flyback that would recharge source capacitor or battery. How flyback can be generated in unconnected part of circuit which has no coil ?

To make it clear someone should test a modified circuit but I really don't know if correct switching could be done in such case.

(I have no room to fully make down switch but you should see what I mean.)

How flyback can be generated in unconnected part of circuit which has no coil ?

Yes, I also pondered on this question since yesterday and revise the flyback explanation as follows:

1) both switches get closed, current is taken from the input source and flows into the coil (the amount of peak current is for instance 23.2V/4.7=4.93 Amper, 4.7 Ohm is the DC resistance of the coil, 23.2V is in the input capacitor 7500uF)

2) now the second switch (that is in parallel with the output capacitor 35uF) gets open, the first switch should still remain closed)

3) the output capacitor starts charging up because the previous current that was flowing the moment before opening the second switch should change due to the appearance of the output capacitor in an already series LC circuit, to this current change the coil should respond by a flyback pulse (the previous current gets reduced as the output capacitor charges up, this causes the current change)

4) now the first switch is opened (and it must be opened in the moment when the voltage across the output capacitor just peaks, this occurs when most of the magnetic energy stored so far in the coil swings over to the output capacitor, like in a normal series LC resonant circuit).

So I think a magnetic - electric energy transfer happens in the series LC circuit and this explains the importance of timing of the switches, sorry for my previous explanation was not a detailed one, I know flyback pulse comes about in the moment of switching off the current in a coil but then the pulse cannot really charge up a capacitor that is already NOT connected, (maybe the flyback energy goes via the spark when the first switch is opened?).

Your modified circuit with using a third switch could test the dilemma of where the charge come into the output capacitor from: it comes from the energy swing of the LC resonant circuit or from "outside" like from aether...
But how do you think the timing of the third switch wrt the other two switches?

Regards, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wings on October 17, 2009, 09:17:34 AM

my feeling multipactor and also spark effect

enclosed a reading on spark effect

.... if I remember well the best effect with copper that have more free electrons

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 19, 2009, 06:53:52 AM

hi everyone good day ;D

YOU'RE ALMOST THERE, TRY MAKE IT MORE WEIRD ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 19, 2009, 08:19:42 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 19, 2009, 06:53:52 AM
hi everyone good day ;D

YOU'RE ALMOST THERE, TRY MAKE IT MORE WEIRD ;D

Ha! But who is almost there ? wings ?
Tito I can feel how it works but we need a bit more mysterious tips ,please - about how to make the simplest circuit.

It's accumulation of energy ,which can be done when capacitor is disruptively discharged AND then capacitor is INSTANTLY recharged . I'm 100% sure about it.
The rest is how to get this energy by magnetic induction probably using strange coil configuration which doesn't obey Lenz law, but we are first need to learn how to accumulate this energy.

Does video link I posted IS the effect of instant recharging capacitor as Bearden said - without taking current from power source ? Electrons trapped in big coil ?
Small kick converted into current kick ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 19, 2009, 09:27:25 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 19, 2009, 06:53:52 AM
hi everyone good day ;D

YOU'RE ALMOST THERE, TRY MAKE IT MORE WEIRD ;D

Based on the above circuit Wingedge2.JPG, I think what Tito is trying to say is the above circuit lacks at least one complete transformer somewhere. Now that transformer could be one primary to 1 to 10 secondaries, or 1 to 10 primaries to 1 secondary, however you need the output.

I would say the following changes. Remove the top switch but keep the dots and remove the bottom switch and connect the black and white dots to make a green dot. Add a transformer between the top switch black and white dots. Add a switch between the top black dot and new bottom green dot. All you need is two switches. One shorting switch to create the damped wave (new center switch), and another to divert the flyback to the battery positive (the existing switch on the cap).

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 19, 2009, 12:43:22 PM

Quote from: wattsup on October 19, 2009, 09:27:25 AM
Based on the above circuit Wingedge2.JPG, I think what Tito is trying to say is the above circuit lacks at least one complete transformer somewhere. Now that transformer could be one primary to 1 to 10 secondaries, or 1 to 10 primaries to 1 secondary, however you need the output.

I would say the following changes. Remove the top switch but keep the dots and remove the bottom switch and connect the black and white dots to make a green dot. Add a transformer between the top switch black and white dots. Add a switch between the top black dot and new bottom green dot. All you need is two switches. One shorting switch to create the damped wave (new center switch), and another to divert the flyback to the battery positive (the existing switch on the cap).

I'm not sure if I got it.The coil stores magnetic field and electrons (partly,slower ones) and then there is a flyback generated but where ?

wattsup ,please give us schematic of your proposition ! Talking with other people about circuit not put on schematic is very hard.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Kator01 on October 19, 2009, 12:57:25 PM

Hi all,

may be this ties in here :

Self-Energy of a asymetrical Capacitor

Dr. Eugene's video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB-jWfzkz_E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB-jWfzkz_E)

Dr. Eugene's blog site:
http://dipoleantigravity.blogspot.com (http://dipoleantigravity.blogspot.com)

Regards

Kator01

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 19, 2009, 02:07:21 PM

@forest

All such schemes generally boil down to the Tesla Ozone Patent. I did some quick changes (nothing fancy) to show you a circuit that should be burned in the brains of all aspiring OUers. This will get the juice flowing in two directions with great damped waves that tesla says is the only real way of driving something with the least battery consumption possible.

If you look in The Tesla project thread, it is pretty well explained there. The key is the final transformer and how you go about transforming the high produced voltaged into lower voltage and higher amperage. That second capacitor switch I marked as optional since you don't really need it because the flyback will return to the source anyways, just with this one switch. I am sure Tito used this as a place to start and he added from there, probably more and more left coils, more and more transformers coils, and even more and more caps. I'd hate to put my finger on his device when it made some flyback. Ouch. You see, if he is producing 1200 watts, he must therefore be playing with 1200 watts, in a way that his supply batteries are not being depleated.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 19, 2009, 03:40:31 PM

Quote from: wattsup on October 19, 2009, 02:07:21 PM
@forest

All such schemes general boil down to the Tesla Ozone Patent. I did some quick changes (nothing fancy) to show you a circuit that should be burned in the brains of all aspiring OUers. This will get the juice flowing in two directions with great damped waves that tesla says is the only real way of driving something with the least battery consumption possible.

If you look in The Tesla project thread, it is pretty well explained there. The key is the final transformer and how you go about transforming the high produced voltaged into lower voltage and higher amperage. That second capacitor switch I marked as optional since you don't really need it because the flyback will return to the source anyways, just with this one switch. I am sure Tito used this as a place to start and he added from there, probably more and more left coils, more and more transformers coils, and even more and more caps. I'd hate to put my finger on his device when it made some flyback. Ouch. You see, if he is producing 1200 watts, he must therefore be playing with 1200 watts, in a way that his supply batteries are not being depleated.

Nice circuit, but I don't like the idea of removing second switch near capacitor which you marked as optional. Without that switch capacitor is simply charged from power source.
This is not what we are looking for! Not charging capacitor and supply back flyback to battery to keep it charged.
No no no ! That way is a common mistake and maybe disinformation.
We are looking for instant capacitor recharge system so we will be able as Tesla did store energy in capacitor then discharge it many thousands times per second.
This is impossible with capacitor charged from power source because recharging process takes a lot of time .

Take a small capacitor able to store 1W and release such 1W in abrupt impulse.
Then discharge disruptively such capacitor 2000 times per second.You've got 2000W floating power in circuit. We all know about disruptive discharge,that's easy part.What we don't know is : how to recharge capacitor instantly and surely that it's impossible with normal electron current in normal electric circuit.

Something is extraordinary here. Hmm...what about one plate capacitor <-> two plates capacitor conversion ? is that the key of converting voltage kick into current kick ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: carbonc_cc on October 20, 2009, 02:29:32 PM

A capacitor that charges/discharges very fast is called a conductor or wire. The only reason it doesn't hold a charge is because it has already discharged the moment it was charged. Unless the conductor is wrapped in a coil. Then it will hold a charge for a bit longer due to the Inductance effect. But then its discharge will take longer too.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 20, 2009, 02:30:11 PM

@forest

I agree with you that it seems far fetched but you just don't understand the circuit. Think of it like you are playing with a Slinky toy. Every time the slinky wave reaches the top most part of the curve, it turns a fan.

An inductor will discharge when disconnected, a capacitor will discharge when connected.

I really don't have time to get into a heavy duty discussion of this, because I am trying to focus on a few main things right now, but I would recommend you look at the following annimation I made some time ago and read the post just above it by @allcanadian.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3972.msg80110#msg80110

When Tesla made that Ozone Patent, the production of ozone was just an excuse. In the patent, he only put a few lines regarding ozone itself, not even any normal mention of pounds or grams per hour production that anyone with an ozone invention would be eager to explain. So you can understand he did not really care what the device was producing. That capacitor was charging and discharging very fast. Ultimately you will get to a point were the only real thing holding back any major advancement in such pulsing schemes will be the pulsing medium used, and how long it will last. I have found that although mosfets are convenient and they will last long enough if you stay away from the resonance frequency (otherwise they toast) another fun method to play around with this is using a solenoid coil with a reed switch inside. I explain some of that here;
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3972.msg129703#msg129703

But anyways, maybe I should not have said anything for the risk of steering you in a wrong path. I am sorry about that. One thing though. I will be redoing this scheme soon. I recently purchased two rather large high voltage transformers and will be driving them this way so when I get to it, I will post for sure on the forum. The idea will be to do it bigger but slower so I stay away from the destructive resonance point.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 20, 2009, 04:01:03 PM

Quote from: wattsup on October 20, 2009, 02:30:11 PM
@forest

I agree with you that it seems far fetched but you just don't understand the circuit. Think of it like you are playing with a Slinky toy. Every time the slinky wave reaches the top most part of the curve, it turns a fan.

An inductor will discharge when disconnected, a capacitor will discharge when connected.

I really don't have time to get into a heavy duty discussion of this, because I am trying to focus on a few main things right now, but I would recommend you look at the following annimation I made some time ago and read the post just above it by @allcanadian.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3972.msg80110#msg80110

When Tesla made that Ozone Patent, the production of ozone was just an excuse. In the patent, he only put a few lines regarding ozone itself, not even any normal mention of pounds or grams per hour production that anyone with an ozone invention would be eager to explain. So you can understand he did not really care what the device was producing. That capacitor was charging and discharging very fast. Ultimately you will get to a point were the only real thing holding back any major advancement in such pulsing schemes will be the pulsing medium used, and how long it will last. I have found that although mosfets are convenient and they will last long enough if you stay away from the resonance frequency (otherwise they toast) another fun method to play around with this is using a solenoid coil with a reed switch inside. I explain some of that here;
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3972.msg129703#msg129703

But anyways, maybe I should not have said anything for the risk of steering you in a wrong path. I am sorry about that. One thing though. I will be redoing this scheme soon. I recently purchased two rather large high voltage transformers and will be driving them this way so when I get to it, I will post for sure on the forum. The idea will be to do it bigger but slower so I stay away from the destructive resonance point.

I now know what you mean, I think.Wondeful! Did you resolved how to get output from transformer without disrupting this process ?
Maybe arrangement of elements should be changed to get radiant energy effect on transformer ?

I will tell you how in my opinion that radiant effect is produced. On a peak of DC impulse sent into transformer/coil ,magnetic field is collapsing and changing direction.In correct moment another DC pulse should be generated on transformer/coil a little bit stronger that collapsing one. In small amount of time those two fields look like a hollow sphere sound source because the collapsing field and increasing field nullify each other effects except small area far from the source (coil) when second impulse was stronger then collapsing one.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 27, 2009, 10:05:58 PM

Hi everyone good day ;D

by adding carbon fusion technology, we can eliminate some transformers and still powerful. 8)

ozone patent is the best, by making some editing in the circuit you can make a cool device. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 28, 2009, 03:39:29 AM

Tito

Do you mean that we should add something to primary or rather secondary ?

I will tell you what I think. If discharge circuit in Tesla ozone patent is working in resonant frequency (make& break done with correct timing to allow that) then because circuit here is parallel resonant LC circuit it has infinite impedance and is basically an open circuit for power source. So there is no consumption of power during disruptive discharge of capacitor. In the same moment however there is series LC circuit : high self-induction coil and distributive capacitance of line.That is charging circuit. This circuit has to be also in resonance to maximize voltage/power stored in magnetic field and minimize time of storage. I don't know how that relates to impedance (still didn't learned much about series resonant circuits). Anyway - it's obvious that make&break must be done at the resonance with both circuits (maybe at resonant frequency of charging circuit and higher harmonic of discharge circuit)

Two interesting points :
1. In LC parallel resonant circuit , when impedance is infinite - can we still add energy to such circuit by interrupting it at higher harmonic frequency and charging from fast inductive discharge from charging circuit ? Would be WONDERFUL ! because applied impulses will be accumulated...
2. Maybe we can add another capacitor , this time to the charging circuit in such way that we effectively make a parallel resonant circuit along with series resonant circuit AT THE SAME FREQUENCY. We would get a charging circuit which is storing energy but which impedance is fast rising and power source do not add much energy - no need to short-circuit with a lot of drained amps from power source to charge high self-induction coil!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 28, 2009, 04:46:05 AM

Quote from: forest on October 28, 2009, 03:39:29 AM
Tito

Do you mean that we should add something to primary or rather secondary ?

actually i'm adding primary to secondary to convert small kick into big kick! 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 28, 2009, 05:42:01 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 28, 2009, 04:46:05 AM
actually i'm adding primary to secondary to convert small kick into big kick! 8)

I thought about this for a long time but I dismissed it because I thought it would damage capacitor.
Look at the picture. I've done variation of it with car coil which is flyback but in my case secondary was not connected back to the circuit.I wonder if that could be done using a carbon resistor from HV back to capacitor.Never checked such circuit however.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 28, 2009, 05:49:17 AM

corrected circuit a bit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 28, 2009, 06:43:36 AM

Tito
Can this idea you have going, be used in lets say a bedini circuit to improve upon it?
Thanks
Magluvin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: otto on October 28, 2009, 06:53:27 AM

Hello all,

@forest

the first method....why not to switch the minus?

your last picture.....its maybe Tesla but its for sure Bearden. Try this ....play with this ....explore it.... its a fine setup.
Maybe you can make it work.

Otto

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 28, 2009, 07:04:13 AM

Magluvin

IMHO this idea makes Bedini very very obsolete.
It's like comparing toy car with real car (not the big however but that's the problem of components used ) ;D
For start I would like to get 9V battery and use it continuously without depleting, to power my electric kettle (2400W) :o Damn tea boiling in winter raised my electric bill 200% :o

Tito
Do I need to add something "extra" to the secondary now to get "cross" ? Does it require additional resonant circuit to catch energy into cap or simple a few transformer like on wire without bothering to be in resonance with secondary ? Did you read Colorado Notes ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 28, 2009, 07:17:41 AM

I'm wondering how to find the correct equation for output power in case of stepped up voltage and how it depends on frequency ???

It has to be related to bouncing done in secondary,so it looks like a point inside a resonating cavity which is affected by the same wave going through and back at some frequency.
Still I cannot understand how it convert voltage kick into current kick . Maybe it's because the same amount of charge on secondary is now running back and forth much faster then on primary ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 28, 2009, 07:24:11 AM

oouch ! so we have higher wave amplitude (voltage), higher frequency (wave bouncing) which also means higher amperage (because amps is charge moving in time, speed up them and you rise amps) - IF that effect can move small current (bounce it along with voltage wave) sent from primary to the secondary by Tesla method or resonance

And that all for free for some time up to the ringdown of bouncing of the secondary ? it look weird :o it look impossible , crazy ! am I going nuts ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 28, 2009, 07:47:59 AM

Forest
I feel where you are coming from, but if his "way" can take advantage of a small, simple generator charge, and have no battery, that would be a nice little project sitting on the table to show proof of concept.
If it doesnt take anything from the battery, then it wont take anything from the generator either, and if the output is good, we could run the bedini (efficient) to drive the generator that has no load. OU, isnt it? A little vicious circle.
Its just easier and cheaper to experiment small.

Magluvin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 28, 2009, 08:07:05 AM

It takes from battery but you can minimalize amount of power taken IMHO Because output power can be huge you can divert part of it back to close the loop and remove battery. Isn't that simpler then using Bedini wheel ? Look at Kapanadze device or Willis magnacoaster. The goal is to have battery only as a starter.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 28, 2009, 08:17:24 AM

That is fine. Lets say I just give it a spin, without a battery to start, that would be good also.
Magluvin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 28, 2009, 10:03:36 AM

Not that I know what Tito is actually doing to get his setup going, but I see caps in series with coils, and I hear Tesla saying pulse the coil with a charged cap.
I have tried some experiments with a coil being induced buy a rotor with magnets and using caps in series with it to induce voltage across another coil that isnt near the rotor. Then I use a reed to pulse the second coil and taking the bemf from that to charge another cap. The rotor driven coil has much less drag on it compared to without the caps and Im still getting some high voltages to my final cap. I am trying things.
But Tito-wan-kenobe is our only hope! Thus far. =]

Magluvin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 28, 2009, 02:05:37 PM

Like this experiment I just completed, using 2 nimh AA batteries, 1 reed and a drive coil to get a simple pulse motor running. The bats are 2.5v in series.
Then I used a diode on one side of the drive coil, and a wire from the other side of the drive coil to charge a separate capacitor with the bemf. The cap gets charged to 25v. Then I added 1 reed close to the rotor that pulses another coil, away from the rotor, and that bemf stored in the first cap is pulsed into the second coil, its bemf is rectified to another cap, which is up to 150v.
Now if I add another reed, coil (away from the rotor), rectifier and cap, will I get 400v to 500v? This may be what Tito is doing. How far can it go?

Took 5 min since the last line I wrote and added another coil in parallel with the one not near the rotor, coils not identical, and now the output is 210v. All from just using the bemf of the drive coil as a source.

Reeds, I need another reed.

Magluvin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 28, 2009, 02:14:13 PM

One more thing. I just adjusted the second reed and the output is up to 222v.
I think I will need more heavy duty reeds to handle these voltages, as the second one tends to stick after a bit of 220v +

I am going to give the 3rd stage a shot in a lil bit when I get another reed.

Magluvin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 29, 2009, 12:58:55 AM

Ok, I uploaded a vid on the 2 stage setup. I had a bit of reed problems and when the rotor is running it covers my voice a bit, but I think it shows what is going on. Ill do a cleaner vid tomorrow if necessary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOx4rbMtj60
I think a 3rd stage will pop something. The way its going, a 3rd stage could give 2700v, about.

Magluvin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 29, 2009, 05:53:49 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 28, 2009, 02:05:37 PM
Like this experiment I just completed, using 2 nimh AA batteries, 1 reed and a drive coil to get a simple pulse motor running. The bats are 2.5v in series.
Then I used a diode on one side of the drive coil, and a wire from the other side of the drive coil to charge a separate capacitor with the bemf. The cap gets charged to 25v. Then I added 1 reed close to the rotor that pulses another coil, away from the rotor, and that bemf stored in the first cap is pulsed into the second coil, its bemf is rectified to another cap, which is up to 150v.
Now if I add another reed, coil (away from the rotor), rectifier and cap, will I get 400v to 500v? This may be what Tito is doing. How far can it go?

Took 5 min since the last line I wrote and added another coil in parallel with the one not near the rotor, coils not identical, and now the output is 210v. All from just using the bemf of the drive coil as a source.

Reeds, I need another reed.

Magluvin

Hi there! ;D

very good !!! see the amplification?

the only thing now is the controlling mechanism ok, and that is easy

its fun isn't it ;D

just be careful cause its dangerous ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 29, 2009, 06:00:54 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 28, 2009, 06:43:36 AM
Tito
Can this idea you have going, be used in lets say a bedini circuit to improve upon it?
Thanks
Magluvin

big yes! of course, and possibilities are unlimited

hi! everyone, try to used also some hinges and carbon rod for a heavy duty contacts ok. ready made from hardware ;D

just make a simple push ok ;D

i'm telling you they are very cheap ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 29, 2009, 06:49:06 AM

my device is something like this ok

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3493651/diy_free_energy_watch_how_to_build_electro_magnetic_generator_and_light_up_your_house_for_free/

i mean, it work like this ok.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 29, 2009, 07:11:05 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 29, 2009, 05:53:49 AM
Hi there! ;D

very good !!! see the amplification?

Hi Tito,

We have seen voltage amplification so far but the title of this thread is Energy amplification. Unfortunately the two are different.

It would be very convincing to make some real input -- output power measurement comparisons.

If it is difficult to make, then just feed back some part of the output power to the input via a (preferably stabilized) DC-DC converter which may be a simple power supply able to receive 250-300V DC input from one of the capacitors and downconvert it to the needed 3-5V DC. Computer power supply from the junk stores or television or CRT monitors input power supplies include such working circuits right after their mains input connection.

I do not wish to be a naysayer here of course, once you show voltage amplification, I can say yes that is correct but what about the energy levels involved?

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 29, 2009, 07:31:54 AM

I think energy amplification is done this way (this is my theory only):
1.You step up voltage a lot - probably to kV range
2. You have to step up or create higher frequency also
3. You inject small amount of charge from primary or from any other source (ground,air,plasma)
4. You are doing ping-pong with that charge between two points (like for example ground and ball capacitor) at chosen frequency - that why voltage is no enough, you need high frequency and correct one to do this
5.On the way of bounced charges (which run fast due to voltage and run back and forth due to highe frequency and resonance WITH THE LENGTH OF PATH) there is a load

I think this theory is simple and clear and I found it very convincing. Of course this is open path technology, but if you are stubborn you can make instead of "ping -ping" - a flow always in one direction in circle : vide TPU. The output in first case is HF HV and need probably some additional tricks to power loads (because it looks and resembles static charge ) - Tesla said you need to match load impedance (vide hairpin circuit), in case of TPU thing is simpler - you see large DC current.

Damn, I wish I could be a better practician ! Unfortunately I have "two left hands" and all I do right is investigations and theories :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 29, 2009, 08:50:41 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 29, 2009, 06:49:06 AM
my device is something like this ok

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3493651/diy_free_energy_watch_how_to_build_electro_magnetic_generator_and_light_up_your_house_for_free/

i mean, it work like this ok.

@Tito L. Oracion

That video shows more of a Newman design. You can use the Tesla Ozone design to run the drive motor and the Newman design to generate output. Hmmmmm. Interesting.

@Magluvin

Nice video with some nice toys to play around with. A few pages back I referred to the following to show how to drive a reed switch and differences of methods for reed longevity. Plus this can give you more point for flyback return.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3972.msg129703#msg129703

Also, @gyulasun is right to say this is voltage. I have had voltage rises going up to 1500 volts. It is a good way to see how things work, and then you can work out how to concentrate the voltage into more amperage afterward.

Also, may I give you an idea about your battery power supply. In our circuits, most battery power comes in as a side stream so the higher system voltage rises are isolated from the few volts coming from the battery. But those batteries can be put in line, even with the high voltage rise. I have put 110volts through those batteries and lit some bulbs, not to full power but to see that such batteries can simply stay in line, even if there is voltage rise in that same line once the circuit is running. It becomes more of a permanently charged capacitor ready to start up the device, and stay inline as part of the voltage rise.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 29, 2009, 10:16:03 AM

gyulasun

My setup is not just voltage amplification. If I were to switch the diode on the driver circuit the other way around, I would get 250v just from the drive circuit into the cap without the 2nd stage, but try to run a load on that, nadda. By having the diode going the other way as I have it, Im only turning 2.5v into 25, but I am driving a second stage from it. Right now I have a huge .9 ohm audio coil on the second stage and it is putting out 270v. If I put a 10k resistor across the 2nd stage cap, I get 25v and a 1k resistor , I still have 5v. If I reverse the drive circuit diode to produce 250v into a cap, not having the 2nd stage, if I put a "10k res". across the cap, I would be lucky to have 1v. Try it. It works.
So I am getting more current handling on my output than the normal bemf capture setups, even with bridge rectifiers. If I can drive a third stage, there just might be some magic there.
The third stage is coming soon. =]

Magluvin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 29, 2009, 10:32:08 AM

Hey Watts thanks.
My reeds are only .5a from reed relays at RS. I need more current handling.
I found a co. that has an great assortment to choose from. I need to get some.
I dont know how it is doing it but I got a big audio coil, .9 ohm on the second stage and the reed is holding up better than with a finer coil with more turns. And Im still getting 270v on the 2nd stage output. Its just silly.
It seems like the more turns on the second stage, the less output. Thats why in my vid I had the trifi all in parallel, more output. Im going to try some other coils today and see what I come up with. I know that big audio coil would fry my AA's as a driver coil. So there is something to this.

Magluvin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 29, 2009, 12:53:13 PM

@Magluvin

If you are looking to order reed switches, maybe try and find a few three-ways or SPDT type. You can do so many things with them. Here is one example.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3972.msg84982#msg84982
Last diagram of this post.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 29, 2009, 05:01:58 PM

Hey Watts
I like those reeds. Be great for sync pulses.
Thanks
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 30, 2009, 04:21:35 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on October 29, 2009, 07:11:05 AM
Hi Tito,

We have seen voltage amplification so far but the title of this thread is Energy amplification. Unfortunately the two are different.

It would be very convincing to make some real input -- output power measurement comparisons.

If it is difficult to make, then just feed back some part of the output power to the input via a (preferably stabilized) DC-DC converter which may be a simple power supply able to receive 250-300V DC input from one of the capacitors and downconvert it to the needed 3-5V DC. Computer power supply from the junk stores or television or CRT monitors input power supplies include such working circuits right after their mains input connection.

I do not wish to be a naysayer here of course, once you show voltage amplification, I can say yes that is correct but what about the energy levels involved?

Thanks, Gyula

hi sir

voltage is seen amplified, i think sir wattsup can answer you how to make a lot of current ok. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 30, 2009, 04:31:59 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 30, 2009, 04:21:35 AM

hi sir

voltage is seen amplified, i think sir wattsup can answer you how to make a lot of current ok. ;D

hmm..is that something related to magnet ? maybe coil wound on magnet or something like that. I remember that someone said something about switching on/off strong magnetic field of neo magnet with Tesla coil

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 30, 2009, 04:34:33 AM

Quote from: wattsup on October 29, 2009, 08:50:41 AM
@Tito L. Oracion

That video shows more of a Newman design. You can use the Tesla Ozone design to run the drive motor and the Newman design to generate output. Hmmmmm. Interesting.

actually i'm driving them to a different dimension actually that is easy to make ok. and stay them away from ozone patent ha!ha!ha! ;D

cause they are very near ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 30, 2009, 04:47:04 AM

all@

Look very carefully at this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvfi9ZpXKOY&videos=heCbKQQ_cZ8&playnext_from=TL&playnext=1

and LISTEN how Willis is describing his device

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 30, 2009, 04:51:41 AM

Magnacoaster youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Magnacoastermotors#p/u/0/u9XdEVsHOQA

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 30, 2009, 05:57:46 AM

This support my theory : http://www.youtube.com/user/Jdo300#p/u

bouncing of voltage waves and add many together to get much higher voltage - like a ping-pong
this is high frequency. what is going on around such wire ?
why this is not a power magnification too ? what is missing ?
I think we should compare it with normal transformer of closed loop circuit. Is something similar happening in transformer ? If so - why there are electrons also passed from primary to secondary ? or maybe there are not passed ? damn , those electrons makes me sick >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 30, 2009, 09:44:26 PM

Quote from: forest on October 30, 2009, 04:31:59 AM
hmm..is that something related to magnet ? maybe coil wound on magnet or something like that. I remember that someone said something about switching on/off strong magnetic field of neo magnet with Tesla coil

hi forest

yes but not just that!

to get real energy you have to combine also the carbon fusion but be very careful cause 1/2 gram of carbon can give us 8kw of POWER. 8)

well , burning circuit is just natural in my many experiment ;D ;D ;D ;D

be ready for that. let the magic smoke goes out lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

naudin has an experiment on this carbon fusion ok.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 30, 2009, 11:34:38 PM

another interesting idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1fXAdODGvA

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 31, 2009, 09:54:13 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 30, 2009, 09:44:26 PM
hi forest

yes but not just that!

to get real energy you have to combine also the carbon fusion but be very careful cause 1/2 gram of carbon can give us 8kw of POWER. 8)

well , burning circuit is just natural in my many experiment ;D ;D ;D ;D

be ready for that. let the magic smoke goes out lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

naudin has an experiment on this carbon fusion ok.

I know that the answer is partially in "The Tesla project" thread. The missing point is how to get usable output from high frequency of secondary.

Ok.A quiz.

Answer lays in :
a) magnets
b) cross
c) carbon
?

a) b) or c) or a mix ? What is your choice Tito ? ;D

Would be nice to have equations for output power too. I can compute power in primary which I believe is expressed in secondary but because secondary is much higher voltage I really don't understand how this factor multiply power, or maybe it doesn't at all and it's just the same power only stepped up in voltage ?

It may be possible that we have a lot of power all around us but it is of too high frequency...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 02, 2009, 06:22:56 PM

Quote from: forest on October 31, 2009, 09:54:13 AM
I know that the answer is partially in "The Tesla project" thread. The missing point is how to get usable output from high frequency of secondary.

Ok.A quiz.

Answer lays in :
a) magnets
b) cross
c) carbon
?

a) b) or c) or a mix ? What is your choice Tito ? ;D

Would be nice to have equations for output power too. I can compute power in primary which I believe is expressed in secondary but because secondary is much higher voltage I really don't understand how this factor multiply power, or maybe it doesn't at all and it's just the same power only stepped up in voltage ?

It may be possible that we have a lot of power all around us but it is of too high frequency...

hi forest
actually you can use magnets and carbon separately to step up power!.
i mean you can use only magnets and coils and caps to increase power or you can use carbon coils and caps ok.

why don't you make your own transformer? you can control high voltage you want ok.

sir wattsup already told the left and right coils as many as you want isn't it?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 19, 2009, 06:28:30 AM

high everybody gooday ;D

after long reading and examination of colorado spring notes of tesla, i finally solved energy amplification!

KICK->EXPLODE -> CONVERT -> MAGNIFY->AMPLIFY=EXCESS ENERGY=FREE ENERGY=OVERUNITY ???

it is actually convertion of small kicks into big kicks. oscillating energy from different sources, energy from different radio station, energy under the transmission lines can be convert into an unlimited very huge power! 8)

tesla once said: if a SMALL stone ice fall from top of the hill OF ICE and as the stone is rolling it becomes bigger and bigger and later becomes an avalance. is very true and can be done in electricity ! 8)

very simple material and very available material can solve electricity problem ! 8)

sm is right and correct !
same principle on moray device and tesla car!

yes capacitor is the most wonderful instrument ever been discovered ! i second demotion ;D

now, why use energy in the air and atmosphere were in there is already battery ::)
when there is a disturbance, there is an explosive effect in the caps ok.
tune in the explotion of the capacitor to the coils ok. 8)

I HOPE YOU GET IT!

IT IS FINISHED ;D

ps: you can also get excess energy using magnification ok.

GOODBYE FRIENDS sorry for others and thank you for others. :(

take care :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cherryman on November 19, 2009, 07:08:44 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 19, 2009, 06:28:30 AM
high everybody gooday ;D

after long reading and examination of colorado spring notes of tesla, i finally solved energy amplification!

KICK->EXPLODE -> CONVERT -> MAGNIFY->AMPLIFY=EXCESS ENERGY=FREE ENERGY=OVERUNITY ???

it is actually convertion of small kicks into big kicks. oscillating energy from different sources, energy from different radio station, energy under the transmission lines can be convert into an unlimited very huge power! 8)

tesla once said: if a SMALL stone ice fall from top of the hill OF ICE and as the stone is rolling it becomes bigger and bigger and later becomes an avalance. is very true and can be done in electricity ! 8)

very simple material and very available material can solve electricity problem ! 8)

sm is right and correct !
same principle on moray device and tesla car!

yes capacitor is the most wonderful instrument ever been discovered ! i second demotion ;D

now, why use energy in the air and atmosphere were in there is already battery ::)
when there is a disturbance, there is an explosive effect in the caps ok.
tune in the explotion of the capacitor to the coils ok. 8)

I HOPE YOU GET IT!

IT IS FINISHED ;D

ps: you can also get excess energy using magnification ok.

GOODBYE FRIENDS sorry for others and thank you for others. :(

take care :)

OkÃ©, now you understand it.. Does that also mean you have a working model?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 19, 2009, 01:01:32 PM

There is one small problem : make&break controller . Tesla struggle with that problem many years.
I know we can use vacuum tubes but actually it is very hard to get the correct one,it's not common knowledge how to control it and so on.
Now there are mosfets you would probably said, but they have intrinsic diode inside which makes oscillation in one direction quite allowed even if mosfet is closed. They are also slow in rise time and fall time of signal slope.
Don Smith is clever and he is using gas discharge protection device which is a spark gap filled with gas and already set to specific breakdown voltage.Unfortunately this device seems not available widely (it is used also in stun guns). It is clear that we have the same problems as Tesla 100 years ago but due to different reasons.

Kick=coil
Explode = capacitor
Convert = resonance
Magnify = Tesla coil (?)
Amplify = amps from volts or from reactive power

Is that what you are trying to say Tito ?

Actually I think we are inside huge ambient background . Don Smith is right.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: otto on November 20, 2009, 12:28:05 AM

Hello all,

@Tito

you said "after READING........"

I dont have to read a tons of papers to know whats going on but its a different "story" on the workbench.

Otto

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 20, 2009, 12:54:36 AM

Quote from: otto on November 20, 2009, 12:28:05 AM
Hello all,

@Tito

you said "after READING........"

I dont have to read a tons of papers to know whats going on but its a different "story" on the workbench.

Otto

Hi sir otto good day ;D

sir what i'm trying to say is that they have the same purpose they both amplify volts and current at the same time from small kick of different sources at the atmosphere into a BIG KICK and that is what i got in his notes and discovery by amplifying the small increase in the collapsing magnetic field ok.

@ all
and here is my tip and christmass gift to all of you there: study the effect of the circuit in watersparkplug thread of energetic forum ok that's it.

if you can't get it still, sorry to all of you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 20, 2009, 01:03:31 AM

Quote from: forest on November 19, 2009, 01:01:32 PM
There is one small problem : make&break controller . Tesla struggle with that problem many years.
I know we can use vacuum tubes but actually it is very hard to get the correct one,it's not common knowledge how to control it and so on.
Now there are mosfets you would probably said, but they have intrinsic diode inside which makes oscillation in one direction quite allowed even if mosfet is closed. They are also slow in rise time and fall time of signal slope.
Don Smith is clever and he is using gas discharge protection device which is a spark gap filled with gas and already set to specific breakdown voltage.Unfortunately this device seems not available widely (it is used also in stun guns). It is clear that we have the same problems as Tesla 100 years ago but due to different reasons.

Kick=coil
Explode = capacitor
Convert = resonance
Magnify = Tesla coil (?)
Amplify = amps from volts or from reactive power

Is that what you are trying to say Tito ?

Actually I think we are inside huge ambient background . Don Smith is right.

hi forest
as i said, you only need very simple materials ok !

you analyze what tesla is always using ok!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 20, 2009, 01:08:02 AM

Quote from: Cherryman on November 19, 2009, 07:08:44 AM
OkÃ©, now you understand it.. Does that also mean you have a working model?

ha!ha!ha!ha!ha! what is the sence of talking and talking if there is no model ok. what i want you to know is the process of principle of amplification! ;)

sorry, sometimes i cannot express what i want to say ok. you bear with me please. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 20, 2009, 01:17:07 AM

hey kooler!

why are you reading my post! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

see how sensitive i am? lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 20, 2009, 01:25:42 AM

sorry
i mean watersparkplug. not watergas ;D

here:
http://energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2242-water-sparkplug.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 20, 2009, 04:14:01 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 20, 2009, 01:03:31 AM
hi forest
as i said, you only need very simple materials ok !

you analyze what tesla is always using ok!

oh,you mean rotary spark gap controller :-( I don't like mechanical parts but in that case I see no other thing which "Tesla always used"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 20, 2009, 04:18:13 AM

Tito

Is not that simple all.Actually I think most of us here knows Tesla method of conversion but what we don't know is how to compute things from start to get required amount of power and most important : how to amplify output power - meaning : how to convert Tesla coil huge volts into real power (volts x amps)

Some Russian know I'm sure (http://rutube.ru/tracks/2549834.html?v=d9b4c5c28626bb3c18b789abc02bc909) but my question : can we scale it up ? For example connecting another 100W bulb in own path to ground ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: kooler on December 20, 2009, 09:51:50 PM

Tito
i was just showing you what i been upto
my real intent was not high voltage
but you know it take alittle current to make alot voltage
so far .. i doing it with 1.5v 25-30ma's
last night i was playing with the mot
and forgot to have one hand behind me ........and zap...
my arms have never hurt for so long before...lol
before i go to a 4th stage i think i need some rubber gloves!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 28, 2010, 05:13:28 AM

Quote from: kooler on December 20, 2009, 09:51:50 PM
Tito
i was just showing you what i been upto
my real intent was not A
but you know it take alittle current to make alot voltage
so far .. i doing it with 1.5v 25-30ma's
last night i was playing with the mot
and forgot to have one hand behind me ........and zap...
my arms have never hurt for so long before...lol
before i go to a 4th stage i think i need some rubber gloves!!!

keep up the good work buddy ;D

cheers!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on May 28, 2010, 09:59:07 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 30, 2010, 06:44:42 AM

Quote from: ramset on May 28, 2010, 09:59:07 AM

:(

why ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 30, 2010, 06:58:49 AM

:( because you ;D while we :o and :'( and >:( and :-[ and :-\
be :D give us more ??? ??? ::) :P tips and :-* :-* not :-X not :P be 8) ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 31, 2010, 07:08:12 AM

Quote from: forest on May 30, 2010, 06:58:49 AM
:( because you ;D while we :o and :'( and >:( and :-[ and :-\
be :D give us more ??? ??? ::) :P tips and :-* :-* not :-X not :P be 8) ;D

Well, if you remember the tip #2 that i gave is enough to light the world with free energy and that is very powerful and the advance technique is for my sons.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 31, 2010, 08:10:38 AM

tip #2 was about ? :
- capacitor discharge
- stout bar with a tail coil
- using magnets on rotary generator
- using carbon on discharge path
- amplification by positive feedback
???
my memory is falling...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on May 31, 2010, 05:45:42 PM

Tip #1:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.msg198942#msg198942

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 27, 2009, 11:02:55 PM
...A tip to all of you: study the real process or the real thing that is happening when charging many caps of at least 10K uf in high voltage dc and discharging it sequencially in a coil with secondary! the only secret here is how you connect the caps from battery and coil efficiently! thats it you have it.

offcourse you pulse it!

otits

This is an additional information to the above tip#1; it can also serve as the tip #2:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.msg199059#msg199059

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 28, 2009, 06:31:54 PM
Quote from: stprue on August 28, 2009, 08:57:00 AM
Are you charging them all at the same time and then using something along the lines of a led chaser circuit for discharging? ...and probably some back into the coil and some caps for useable energy?

well, partly you are correct but there is still missing, the technique of using other coil making a kick without using any current from the input and that makes excess or unlimited energy. and i got this technique in henderson file.
my device is a combination of tom bearden, henderson and bedini.
sorry i'll be busy now, i cannot respond always.

God bless
otits

Another tip:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.msg199184#msg199184

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 29, 2009, 06:26:30 PM
CAPACITOR IS THE SOLUTION!!!

And another tip:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.msg199188#msg199188

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 29, 2009, 06:52:16 PM
i think no need for measurement if you are using your device for one straight week without charging the battery and using 300 watts of power from your inverter. all i need is that it can stand everyday ok.

And finely:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.msg199210#msg199210

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 29, 2009, 10:03:42 PM
i will prove nothing but i encourage everyone to study this field if you really want to see real power!.
study the tesla's wiring style, efficiency is in there.
still tesla's technique is the superior method!. believe it or not.

And an expert's word:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.msg200761#msg200761

Quote from: otto on September 11, 2009, 03:12:02 AM
Hello all,

it seems that I was a little bit blind so I didnt see this thread. and especially the posted "Sweet drawing".

For years now Im insisting to use this drawing to build a TPU. It has to be a little bit modified because of the number of turns, connections.... Nobody was listening as always.

Tito, your doing a great job.

Otto

Here is the "Sweet drawing" that Otto mentions:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.msg155915#msg155915

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 01, 2010, 03:39:06 AM

Ok, I remember now ;D

Tip #1 is about charging many capacitors in series and discharge in parallel.A LOT of capacitors for small gain probably.

I think Tito later said that Tesla wiring coil method is superior just because that - we don't need so much capacitors.

Ahh...here are two methods Tito mentioned! Capacitor method and coil method. I bet first try was to use many capacitors as per tip #1. Still the superior device is using positive feedback to convert little kicks into big current kicks, that would be also the smallest and simplest in construction (not in operation of course)

I'm more interested in external power source used - is that directly tapping vacuum energy or indirectly through our Earth "wheelwork of nature" ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IndianaBoys on June 01, 2010, 10:46:24 PM

Can anyone tell us the medium and high frequencies that were being used in the TPU Flash Over video on youtube?

TPU FLASH OVER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsZ0EC2VeJw

Thanks,

IndianaBoys

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dasimpson on June 02, 2010, 01:27:29 PM

a self running machine is easy the hard part is getting a machine to self run and also power other things thats the hard part

Quote from: forest on October 01, 2009, 08:53:42 AM

wattsup,

While you are perfectly right about returning most of energy back to source in such way as to not deplete it but recharge, that will not explain all those devices which are self-runners with power source disconnected after first kick-start - vide Kapanadze device

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 02, 2010, 03:21:00 PM

;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dasimpson on June 02, 2010, 03:21:45 PM

from what i make of his gibberish is using a joule thief this the transister works like the 2 switches the resister i guess times the opening and closing of the switches the coil is the magnetic feild also radio waves not sure about the radio but you can here them with a radio so i guess there there
the secoundry winding go a cap now dumping this into multiple caps in parallel should give ampage i guess
kinda worked that out after his 3rd or 4th comment now i geuss they are otherways but this is how i worked it out

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dasimpson on June 02, 2010, 03:24:16 PM

in the dishcarge of the cap yes but if you start this unit with load it will take longer to produce the power and the load will keep it at an accaptable usage lvl from my experements anyway the way to unload the power slowly would be to have a volage regluater current would be drawn as needed

[A author=forest link=topic=6763.msg243305#msg243305 date=1275506460]
the hard part is to limit power , in other case device destroy itself
[/quote]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 02, 2010, 03:31:59 PM

can someone explain why there is 5khz hash in in tpu output ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dasimpson on June 02, 2010, 03:36:07 PM

Quote from: forest on June 02, 2010, 03:31:59 PM
can someone explain why there is 5khz hash in in tpu output ?

i would say for tolerences of the unit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 02, 2010, 03:36:22 PM

Quote from: dasimpson on June 02, 2010, 03:24:16 PM
in the dishcarge of the cap yes but if you start this unit with load it will take longer to produce the power and the load will keep it at an accaptable usage lvl from my experements anyway the way to unload the power slowly would be to have a volage regluater current would be drawn as needed

[A author=forest link=topic=6763.msg243305#msg243305 date=1275506460]
the hard part is to limit power , in other case device destroy itself

that's why there is 5khz hash imprinted on tpu output. it recover impulsively to the initial state.The idea is to have such clamp which allow dynamic adaptation to connected load and also shutdown device when overloaded.It's much better that normal AC fuse.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dasimpson on June 02, 2010, 03:38:25 PM

i have lost what you are talking about forest

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 02, 2010, 03:48:32 PM

<:->

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dasimpson on June 02, 2010, 03:52:20 PM

so you mean it can only be charged as high as load can draw ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 02, 2010, 04:00:53 PM

http://wise-technology.com/A%20SCIENTIFIC%20KEY.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dasimpson on June 02, 2010, 04:08:47 PM

dont get how it relates to what your saying or trying to point out to me lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 02, 2010, 05:12:16 PM

sorry,nevermind

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 15, 2010, 01:45:06 AM

Hi All
I have been so very busy for a few months. But my thinking cap is always on
I went through a bout of ou depression for a bit. Just burnt out on it all.

But the past few weeks have been good to me, i believe.

So far it is just a circuit on Circuit sim v1.5h I have done some tests at low levels compared to sim at low levels and my results were very close.

It is funny that the sim programmer starts you off with an LRC circuit when you start the program. And that is what we are dealing with here in the circuit I will give today.

Now some of what is in this circuit may seem like too much to deal with for some, very high voltages, and the freq of operation can be varied depending on the values of components. This circuit will be operating at 1.6khz according to the sim

In this circuit we will be dealing with a cap 10uf that has a 50kv rating, if such a beast exists, that will be charged to about 40kv, from a 20kv source via a very simple circuit. Then that cap will be discharged into our LRC circuit, across the coil, getting the cycle going.

I used 15 .5ohm resistors as loads all in parallel after a series off 16 diodes, 2 rows of 8, each row allowing the oscillations to continue in the circuit and providing a form of voltage regulation for the load. About 7v and down as the oscillations diminish. This give each resistor about 100w each for a bit of time. Over 1500w from 1 kick.

The circuit, when the switches are timed just right, will be close to 400kv working. Mind you, these are just the values that I have imposed to give wow factor. All can be scaled down and fine tuned to be what you want.
But the low freq had is impressive here. Im not much interested in mhz and broadcasting, for now.

You can mess with the circuit as you wish.

I am going to upload the code for import to the sim here and the next post will be on how to operate and explain.
Get the circuit sim here http://falstad.com/circuit/ The code will be in not pad format .txt

Just for starters, putting the cursor over each component will show the spec and voltages and such in the lower right hand corner. The source is 20kv.

The switch at the bottom right needs to be closed when charging the cap from the source and closing the switch at the top right will close that circuit to charge the 10uf cap, hold till charged. Then open the switch at the bottom right. If you dont open the switch before discharging into the LRC, the sim will have an error. So this separates things so the will work. You will notice the cap got charged to almost 40kv. Its the inductor at the top right that gives us this ability and the diode rectifies the charge.

Now close and hold the switch to the left of the top right switch to discharge the cap into the coil. Watch the second scope view and when the green trace hits zero, release.
When discharged on time you should have close to 400kv b boppin.

Now the time line can be seen in the lower right corner when the curser is in an open area away from the components, in the black area. We are running slow to get the timing points visible for discharge.

Ok Now I am going to my next post describing some things.

Some PCs will have a hard time with the sim if the pc is less than 2ghz but it will work, just a bit slow when flipping switches, checking and calculating all components being active in the circuit.
Have fun, and believe.

This is for Otto

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 15, 2010, 01:56:05 AM

Actually I have to get to bed, If anyone tries the circuit above in the sim after you get the LRC going you can delete the diodes out of the circuit and even more power will be on the loads, but the power will be unregulated over time and the oscillations will diminish quicker.

Next step will be how to use different loads, not just heaters. =]

Till tomorrow

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 15, 2010, 02:13:08 AM

One more thing the charge circuit works with 12v or wutev too. Should give about 17 to 18v into the cap from the battery or any source. Its not free though, its all still coming from the source, its the inductor that pulls the extra from the batteries and stuffs it into the cap using the diodes 1 way valve properties to null oscillations in the charge circuit . Nifty.. But can we use that pull from the inductor to just take the EXTRA from the other side of the cap at the right time by switching away from the battery? Would that give us more out than in? =]

Night

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 15, 2010, 12:16:43 PM

Have a look!
from Grumpy
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=369.msg5377;topicseen#msg5377

UPDATE Grumpy [sigma 16] started e thread here !

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9749.msg257229#new

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 15, 2010, 05:41:31 PM

I did a screen capture of the circuit in case someone does not wish to run the sim prog.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 15, 2010, 06:15:35 PM

here is updated code to show power out on 1 of the load resistors. They all receive the same voltage/current.
If you place the mouse pointer over the scope shots, the component for that shot will show blue in color. The last on to the far right is the watts of just 1 load resistor.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 16, 2010, 01:03:46 PM

in the above schematic the switch at the top of the resistor load array will disconnect the load resistors to the left.
Notice the change in power on the resistors that are still connected, not much change at all. This would be due to the diodes regulating the voltage to the load while allowing the oscillations to continue at the highe voltages. So the diodes help us skim off 7v to the load on each half cycle. At 400kv That will take a while to degrade, depending on freq.

If you change the value of the 100nf cap down to say 500pf, note the change in running voltage of the oscillator and the time it takes to run down. But take note of the load consumption also. The load needs to be different now.

Tesla And Tito said, a tiny cap can produce a lot of power, well I think this is what they mean.

Add more resistors, more power will come out with little change to the others, to a point. Add more diodes in series to get higher voltages to the load, but the oscillations will diminish faster, and the loads will need to be different in ohm value to put out similar power levels or more.

Remove the diodes or just add in switches to disconnect them and check out the output now. This setup alone can produce tons of heat on the cheep.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 16, 2010, 03:00:49 PM

please please please

can you make video explaining what to do to obtain results ? in simulation of course but I think we would like to see it happen and how to do this.
can somebody help ? there should be free programs allwoing to make video of it

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 16, 2010, 07:00:46 PM

Hello Forest,
Nice to see you again!

Have you seen this very creepy guy around? > ;D<

I know Mags likes the movies ,and what he is describing sounds like a "blockbuster"
Can't wait to see the coming attractions!!

Seems like we should be able to build something here too!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 16, 2010, 10:19:17 PM

Hey forest and Ram
Ya know, some may think that the sim may be giving false results. But this is what Tesla is telling us.

The circuit above is not tuned for resonance. But if made to the specs above, I believe it would be very refreshing to witness.

If tuned properly, change the LRC cap down to the mid to lower pico farad range, and correct the coil, You can "vaporize wires", meaning your coil if it isnt built to handle the crushing oscillations of the voltage and speed of the currents.

Ya know , if you have great length of wire and connected it to power, its not the electrons that are going through the wire at light speed, its just the pressure waves that make it to the other end of the wire. Resistors do slow down electrons, but the impulse is light speed. Fill a 10 foot 1in pipe with ball bearings from end to end, now tap the first ball in the end of the pipe, and that last one will shoot out and the rest will stay virtually still, very little current flow.

Put some springs on the ends (capacitor) and kick it, The tighter the springs(lower farad value) the faster the oscillations.

The resistors in the charge circuit and LRC are very low, but they are needed for the program to work properly. It cannot calculate volts into a 0 ohm load, including a discharged cap. The LRC resistor at the top is not really needed, it is just there for LRC value and can be removed. The higher that resistor is in ohms the sooner the oscillations will subside.

I have a lot to post. I am going to try and produce another example tonight, that shows how we can design the circuit, using 500pf cap and lower to get a 60hz, or 50 hz output for use with house hold items.
I had it going in the sim last night, but lost my way with it. It had to do with harmonics in the waves, at high freq, that the output can be set for whatever you want, and the diode arrays regulate the output till the oscillations subside, then you kick it again, before the output drops too far.

Be back in a bit hopefully

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 16, 2010, 11:36:39 PM

ok New code for sim. here is a simple version that produces 60hz output into the R of the LRC. The input is just the source at 100v with a very low value resistor, so the impulse is good for simple demo. If you just tap the switch you will have a lower working voltage and output. If you hold the switch longer you will be in the mega volts. In the real world, the cap discharge would be a safer way to go as the discharge will be metered. I would avoid producing megavolts. =]

I think this is an excellent example of amplification and a beautiful way to produce 60hz output.

It all needs to be developed, but this is the idea. This is what Teets is talking about. The nitty gritty is building it and being able to design it for use where ever.

Fiddle as you wish. Change the value of the cap slightly and watch the 60hz change. Or the inductor.
Have fun

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 16, 2010, 11:57:43 PM

Here is the same code as above but included is a scope on the resistor that the source goes through to charge the circuit, or you can right click any component and put up a scope shot, and you can right click each scope to change what parameter you want to watch.
Well this added scope will show the power consumed in the startup discharge and you can see for yourselves, the output is more. If you tap the switch, to say use 400 watts from source, then compare to the load resistor at the top of the LRC, More power to ya.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 17, 2010, 12:09:33 AM

To amend what I stated above, the output is not more during that same time frame as the input, but it is after a couple cycles and the cycles keep coming.

Its funny how the LRC circuit is kind of common place in electronics, and the sim prog starts ya off with it.

I wonder what other things are right in front of our eyes and we never know their potential till we fiddle.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on September 17, 2010, 12:18:23 AM

Hi Magluvin,

I'm not sure of this sim because I was working on a similar circuit a while back over on this thread:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9111.0

I could get it up to 50KW before the sim would crash out. I have never replicated a real circuit of it. I also have another circuit sim that will run a 15 ohm resistor as a heating element up over 1KW from a 5v input which isn't posted.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 17, 2010, 01:08:36 AM

Hi Dreams

I do get times when it stops due to errors. Like the 2 switches I had to use in the first large circuit above, for some reason, if the is a diode in an open end circuit with another component, she will error. But if you disconnect one end of the diode strings, no error. And it mostly happens when the lrc is oscillating. But in the real world we might not need to use both switches.

In the first circuit, if you understand how the charging circuit turns 20kv into almost 40kv, its sort of the same way the LRC is amplifying the input, just in a unidirectional way.

When we release the discharge cap from the L in the lrc, the L has all this built up potential, still headed in the same direction of current, and it bangs into mr tiny cap. And tiny cap may be small, but with the right voltage breakdown value, it will take the hit and send it right back.
A larger cap would be soft to the inductors potential, thus lower freq.

I use to do a lot of BEMF collecting, but I now see FEMF. Maybe the bemf is a result of the forward emf potential swinging all the way forward, and then bemf. So maybe the FEMF has a bit more potential than its sibling BEMF. If you watch the precharging circuit in action, the coil builds up during the charge of the discharge cap, and once the cap equals the source voltage, the inductor isnt done yet, and it sucks more from the source than what it should have dumped into the cap normally. This is negative resistance. Once the cap is at source voltage level, the source should have no desire to dump any more into the cap. But the inductor had inertia of sorts and it created a load, negative resistance, for the source and pumped it into the cap to the tune of a 2 for 1

But from all that I have read so far, what is happening in these circuits should be somewhere in the ball park.

Higher voltage in the circuit, the longer the oscillations will continue while shaving off some output. 7v 12v 120v from 400kv

When I first thought of the diode strings to give the oscillator a path to continue oscillations, I thought that then I could put a high value R load without killing the oscillations, and it worked, but I did not consider the voltage drops at the time and my voltage across the load was only 5v, and my high load got nada much. so I lowered the ohms, then more, then added more in parallel and the more I put, the longer the oscillations lasted, due to low R in the LRC, and I got tremendous power out. I played with this a good bit before I disclosed any of it. And I believe this is good stuff. I would love for someone with another sim to try the same to see what we can come up with here.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 17, 2010, 01:18:40 AM

Oh Forest

I just got a prog to capture screen video I have to check it out and see what I come up with to record this.

Good to hear from ya buddy =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 17, 2010, 10:16:31 PM

Hey DreamThinker
I looked at the circuit you presented. I cannot say for sure, but it looks like when the switch disconnects from the inductor, that it is singing on its own. I think that the program has a hard time with diodes and having disconnects with the diode still connected to the active passive device, the inductor. Probably in most circuitry, these situations would not be in place and all components are connected at both ends to some other circuit.

In your sim, the switch on the right opens, and the inductor should continue the current flow through the diode, but then it can not pull from the diode in the opposite direction, say bemf, if any energy is left after dumping what it had through the diode. But I seriously doubt that the inductor would retain any potential across its leads after the switch was opened. I am supposing here. BUT

Lets say that the switch opens, yet the inductor, with its inertia mechanism, forces more electrons than it has holes for through the diode to the source, and it may do so easily, being that the source is accepting all incoming.
Now, What might go on in the inductor, with its oscillations, if it had many open holes? Missing electrons. Would that affect the self capacitance and the inductance, and could it be an ingredient needed to pull from the vacuum? I never really thought of any of this before now. Im just spittin it as I type here.

Charge the coil as you show, then disconnect the coil from the circuit on the opposite side of the diode, and the inductor pushes many electrons through the diode and they cannot get back to the inductor. The coil should be 1 big positive charge just waiting for its babies to come home. Would it just be a static charge? Static. Is a positive electrode on a battery static when not connected to a load?

I would not put this one down till some experimenting is done, on a safe level. At first I fully assumed that when the inductor lost its top connection, that how could the inductor retain a potential across itself connected 1 ended to a diode that will only provide and exit and no come back.
Maybe the program does not know what to do with this rectified static, and it shows it some way some how.
I would say give it a shot. Start with low inputs at first and see what a couple pulses will produce.
If it is static, if you provide an earth ground with a spark gap to the static inductor, maybe the babies wil come home, except they will be someone elses babies. lol

I will post this on your thread and here at Energy Amplification

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 18, 2010, 02:01:10 AM

.

Here is another circuit hat I designed for one of my big coils I used in my pulse motors. 2mh .42ohm and I bought some 561nf 1kv caps that come in an asortment pack from RS and each pack has 4 of these lil bad boys. Have 16.
But with the right combo of the caps, I think I can stay in the realm of just a couple of kv according to the sim.

This one will show the input power on the source side 2 ohm resistor(right bottom) and the R of the LRC 2 ohm resistor( top left).
The input takes about 1.2 kw peak and a bit more to charge the cap, and the output lasts just as long as the input charge, but is over 2kw peak. More power out than in.

To run the sim, close the switch on the right and hold til the 1000uf cap is charged, and notice the last scope as it shows the power used to charge the cap through the 2 ohm resistor.
Then press and hold the left switch and watch the scope of the cap and dont release till the green line hits 0 in the middle of the graph and let go, and watch the next to the last scope, as this shows the output power expended into the R of the LRC 2 ohm resistor.
Twice the output as the input, and not at some crazy high freq and not 400 kv or vaporizing coils.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 18, 2010, 08:37:24 PM

ok here is some items that can be had for this experiment. A 2mh coil made of 16awg wire that came from mid 80s passive sub cross-over supplies, and I have 16 560nf 1kv caps that I can arrange up to 8kv at 560nf or a few other values to work in the range of the circuit I posted last.
The key is to be able to discharge the cap into the coil with an electronic cutoff when the cap reaches 0v, or the cap will start charging the other direction and if released at other than 0v the oscillation voltage will suffer.
I have some ideas i will try electronically. Tesla used motorized rotational switching that was tuned for what he needed and could produce even a rectifying effect from it.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 19, 2010, 05:59:48 AM

yep,the key is how fast you make magnetic field around and how fast it collapse (in other ways how fast you cut off powering source)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 19, 2010, 08:08:21 PM

I was just investigating some materials on microwave oven circuitry and operation. I saved a transformer, a diode, and a cap from a scrapped unit and just wondered exactly what goes on in there. And also what can I do with these parts and what they can do for me.
I found a very interesting description of the transformers they use and why there is a gap in the center core.

Here is the description and I found it here http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/micfaq.htm#micwdmleak

High voltage transformer
(From: John De Armond.)

The transformer goes by several names, depending on where you are. Variable reluctance, leakage flux, stray flux, etc. It is exactly the same construction and operating principle as a neon transformer, some kinds of HID light ballasts and some series streetlight constant current transformers.

The core is an almost standard "E" core (or "H" core if you prefer) with one exception. The center leg has an air gap. The windings are on the end legs of the "E" instead of the center leg.

There are two magnetic paths around the core for the field set up by the primary to travel. Around the periphery and across the secondary and around the center leg and across the air gap. The field that travels along the center leg does not cross the secondary and induces no voltage.

With no load applied, the bulk of the field travels the peripheral, very much lower reluctance solid iron path, inducing full secondary voltage proportional to the turns ratio. As current flows in the secondary, counter-MMF raises the reluctance of the peripheral path so that some of the flux travels through the center leg. With less flux traveling around the periphery and cutting across the secondary, the secondary voltage drops as the current remains about the same. At the limit, if the secondary is shorted, the peripheral path has so much reluctance that most of the flux travels the center leg and across the air gap. The same current as before flows through the secondary but at zero volts.

When the dimensions of the core and gap are set up correctly, the transformer behaves as an almost perfect constant current device. That is, the secondary voltage varies as necessary to keep the same current flowing through a varying load. Just what the doctor ordered to keep the magnetron happy.

The secondary current can be increased by opening up the air gap. This raises the reluctance of that path and forces more field through the secondary leg. Closing the gap has the opposite effect.

The center leg is often called the magnetic shunt and frequently it is a separate piece of laminated iron stuck between the coils and TIG welded in place. It is a common trick for Tesla Coilers to open up a neon transformer and either knock out the shunt entirely or grind it down to open the air gap. This modification causes the transformer to output much more current than it is designed for - for a little while, at least :-) The same thing works with microwave oven transformers (MOT).

This design in a microwave oven is a vital part of keeping the magnetron anode current within spec. The magnetron is electrically a diode. A diode that isn't emission-limited would draw destructive current if not externally limited. With this design, the filament can be heated good and hot for long life and not have the tube run away. The design also is vital for protecting the magnetron from potentially damaging conditions such as operating the oven empty, arcing, etc.

It's popular to use several MOTs to build an arc welder. This works quite well specifically because these transformers are constant-current devices - exactly the characteristic stick welding needs. If they were conventional transformers, the first time the rod touched the work and shorted the secondary, fault current would flow and the breaker would trip or blue smoke would leak out.

Along similar lines, one can cut off the high voltage secondary and replace it with a suitable number of turns of heavy wire, connect a bridge rectifier and have a nice constant current battery charger. Select the turns carefully and it'll do the bulk/absorption stages of the smart 3 stage charging algorithm.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 19, 2010, 09:41:21 PM

Correction in the above picture, the caps are 560pf 1kv

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: void109 on September 20, 2010, 03:19:26 AM

I was playing with the circuit sim today after reading your posts here. It seems not-too-difficult to get seeming OU configurations of RLC circuits using it. Is this maybe just a flaw with the sim?

This one appears to take 1W in for 5W out: (attached txt file for the falstad circuit sim)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 20, 2010, 07:05:29 AM

Hey Void

Flaws, yeah there can be and some bugs happen in unusual situations with configurations.

For 1, we only have a few parameters in inductors and transformers. For example, a 2mh inductor on the sim, is it actually .42ohm like mine?
Can All 2mh coils handle the powers that can be had in the sim? Probably not

But this guy Falstad is pretty good at this programming stuff it would seem. And for many of the circuits that the program was designed to do, I would have to say that it is in the ballpark.
I ran a real test on the cap charge circuit in the first large circuit with all the loads in parallel, and the charge circuit works. It charges the cap to nearly twice the source. So if these functions of the inductor are correct, or even close, then I would venture to say that the function of the lrc is close also.
In fact the first circuit the prog starts with is an LRC and the voltage of the oscillator, from a source of 5v is over 10v.

Im looking into other sims to see a comparison.

Thanks for checking this out Void. I know many have doubts. Its very understandable. In fact this is probably a bit taboo. I just hope it sinks in to many that havnt experienced these things yet, and it is such common stuff.

I am working on an addition to the circuit that stops the cap discharge at near zero. If you put a diode across the discharge cap, in a way that the source doesnt conduct through it while charging the cap, when you hold the discharge switch, the discharge will stop .8v past zero. If the source voltage is high enough, .8v is a tiny sacrifice for some good accuracy. But what I want is for the switch or mosfet/mosfet bank, to turn off at the zero point.
If we release the switch and anything other than zero, the output suffers its full possibilities, but also if the switch is released before the first zero crossing, what ever is left, the source does not have to produce as much to get a full charge. So there is a possibility for some circuit control and regulation here to come up with.

Im kinda into small power at this time. The big can come later as I get the feel for all this myself.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 20, 2010, 07:31:23 AM

Also Void and All

I had shown a circuit code above with the comparison of in and out power. I chose the 2ohm resistors in order to try and show equal loads for power measurements to be clear. It is possible that if I used .2ohm resistors, that the power consumed by the resistor alone, may not be the total power in the lrc as a whole. Point being, the 2ohm resistors are most likely the weak link. Otherwise, we need to measure all components to see what the total power dissipated on each side, in/out, really is as a whole. If the resistor is very low, its power dissipation will be very low due to low voltage across it, so now wee would need to see the power dissipated into the inductor to get a true circuit potential.

If we have 2 100 w bulbs in series, on 110v, then each would get 25w and the total would be 50w dissipated.
If we have a 500w bulb in series with a 100w bulb, the 500w may not even light up, but the 100w may be near to full power. But just the measurement of the 100w bulb will not give the total power consumed, so what ever the 500w bulb is consuming, should be added to the 100w as a whole. But the 100w should give a pretty good indication of high majority of power consumed as the 500w filament will be at much lower ohms than the 100w when full current is running and the 100w is hot and high.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: void109 on September 20, 2010, 12:27:49 PM

Mags, thanks for taking the time to post your findings, its always a pleasure to read.

I agree the guy at falstad is definately pro (I'm a developer myself, and the guy has large math/engineering skills).

I tried altering your design in a few ways to automatically shut off current flow at 0 volts as well, with no success, I tried it using diodes as well as a combination of 555 timers and mosfets and transistors - with no luck - the problem I was having is the cutoff time was just too long. In order to get the ringing in the RLC output portion of the circuit, it apparently needs to be an almost instant cutoff.

Thanks much

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 20, 2010, 01:03:23 PM

Hey Void
The diode is a ruff way of doing it, It does the cutoff near zero, but the switch still needs to be opened on or near that time also.
Im thinking what we need is a comparator circuit that measures the caps voltage discharge and use it for a trigger to cut the switch(mosfet, etc) It all has to be quick. But with what we have to work with today, I think we can gitter done.

The basics of the so called amplification is here. I say so called due to it is the end result, but not conventional for most. Now the switching needs work. And now that I get the feel of the lrc, how it works, and the required switching, The switching does not seem that hard to do after all.

Some say the mosfets wont do what Teslas did exactly, but it will work. Lets say that a mos transistor doesnt have quite the on resistance or timing we are looking for, so what, if the input suffers a tiny bit, the output will suffer a tiny bit, but the power ratio should be similar. And the sim is showing we can get some amplification at lower voltages and freq also, and thats what I am going for.

Cold electricity is cool, lol, but I cannot say that is what we have here. Yet anyway. Just inductors with inertial effects and caps that tune the bounce in the circuit. Basics.

As I come up with the switching circuits I will upload the codes. Ill send the diode on the cap tonight to demonstrate that its function is desirable here, and then work on the How To Switch it circuit.

Thanks for giving it a shot, I could use a another good mind to help me out. =]

BBL

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gsmsslsb on September 20, 2010, 05:08:58 PM

Hello Mags and all
If you want switching at zero have you considered an SCR.
Just a thought
GSM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 20, 2010, 05:21:48 PM

Mags

Mosfets are so made they won't work of smoke immediately in case of any energy gain

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 20, 2010, 05:56:10 PM

Hey Forest
I have worked on some high end car audio amps that use mosfets in a push/pull situation. When the amp is not drawing from the power supply, the bemf voltages can hard hit the mosfets with fairly high voltages.
Some mosfets have internal diodes. But these can be strengthened by additional external diodes.

Lets say we put a diode in series with the mosfet output or leg, and this would help contain the currents to the lrc by not allowing any back at the fet. Sound good? Diodes are sweet things. I would not worry about a .7v drop on the input, even at 50v or 100v. This stuff is just pouring out of me, I dont know where I get it all from.

But im seeing that maybe the LRC may just absorb a great bit of it. I dunno, but if I fry some, we can make a soup with them. LOL yucky.

But good thoughts. And I just came up with the diode after the fet just now as you presented the possible problem. Keep em coming. ;]

I will work on these problems tonight, and I think you will be impressed at what the diode on the input cap does for us. I think it will be part of the cutoff circuit as a whole. But if it is not necessary, possibly an op amp comparator to choose the time of cutoff when the discharge cap gets really low or close to zero. Then use an inline diode to protect the mosfet/fets.

I hope that all makes sense.

I really want to try and make this work as well as possible before I build. I believe in the function of the lrc, but I need to get the switching down pat to make it happen, and in hopefully in a safe manor.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: void109 on September 20, 2010, 06:04:06 PM

Maybe we just werent looking close enough. I took a screenshot of my desktop, zoomed in on the input and output power traces and used photoshop to stack them. I also decreased the time step so we could get a close look at the waveform of the output.

It looks like while I'm getting 2.5KW on output, with 1.25KW on input, the output is in the form of a damped oscillation(I think that's the right word), so half of the apparent power isnt power. Which incidentally also points that if you discharge the cap at optimal (0 volts) you get roughly twice the power out. If I'm interpreting that correctly, still new to the solid state area :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 20, 2010, 07:17:24 PM

Very interesting Void. You might be right. Good work.
So we have to aim a bit higher I suppose in order to change that ratio to 4 times the input as seems apparent in my first circuit that it is beyond 4x. I will look closer at these points you have made from here on.

And what you have found is good work. It may be depressing if what you found is all we are getting, no matter what level of play.
It is wattage/time that will account for everything.

My screen is 1440x900 and I didnt see the oscillation, yet I should have probably knew it was there due to the filled in look of the output compared to the in. My discrepancy

Anyway, I am gunna get to it after I eat dinner. Im hungry. I am going to still work on the switching while I have the ideas in my head.

Also remember that we are charging the cap in a less efficient manor according to Teslas Igniter description. We are just simply dumping the source into the cap. So maybe with his circuit involved, we can lower our input power quite a bit in our favor, while maintaining the same output. =]

Thanks Void

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: void109 on September 21, 2010, 02:48:00 PM

Ya, I did the exact same thing - I was elated to see the simulated results, and yet something was nagging in the back of my mind regarding the fact that the output was a solid color... More than resolution of your desktop, make sure you change the timestep of the scope in the circuit sim to see the actual output at a resolution you can interpret - its under Options -> Other Options -> Time Step Size. I just reduced it by a power of 10 and was able to see the damped oscillation.

I think I've been interested in OU research for almost a year now. I'm becoming accustomed to disappointment! But it's not a bad thing, I don't believe. While the knowledge I am gaining is showing me that most of what is presented that looks promising is either due to measurement errors, poor research or even disinformation distractions, it is also securing a tenuous opinion that we have taken a wrong step (or several) over the last century with regard to our understanding of physics. Perhaps even misled, which sometimes seems far more likely. But if we can recognize this misstep, we can correct it, and I am more convinced today than I was initially that there is an answer waiting to be discovered.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 21, 2010, 05:05:09 PM

Mags

Good idea with external diode. Think more maybe you will find some magic. The is a surprise when you use some elements combination in not-ordinary clever way.
Think about very fast diodes ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 21, 2010, 07:52:27 PM

Ok fellers
Worked on this a bit and seems promising. I have included the cutoff diode, and added a recharge circuit to the discharge cap. We are now getting more watts out than in. Even though the output is a waveform and not steady wattage, it is clear that we see more out.
The key here, in this circuit, was giving back to the charge cap from the lrc without killing it completely by using a diode and an inductor. The inductor helps to peal off some from the oscillations. Maybe just a resistor would work here, As in Teets first drawing, diode in series with a resistor. But i feel another reason for the inductor is to get some inertia there, maybe EXTRA coil, effects helping to recover even more from the lrc than it is giving. So that inductor needs some fine tuning to maximize the recharge if my theory is correct.

The wonderful thing is, The first time you charge the discharge cap, notice the input watts. But that is filling an empty cap, Then discharge till you see the cutoff diode do its thing then release. Notice the output watts.

Now charge the discharge cap again, what do you see? Not the same amount of power it took to charge it the first time. I was happy about that one.

This was a good exercise for me. The circuit that has the 2 strings of diodes in the lrc is a bit different. The regulation properties are great, but I think I am getting some regulation here also if you see the output, and that could be the diode inductor recharge circuit. Im still messing with it.

Ok Void, have at it. If you find an issue please let me know. This one is in a ruff state and needs fiddled, as in tuned and, well just fiddle. =] I used my 2mh coil here as I want to build dis ting, and figure it before hand.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 21, 2010, 09:28:08 PM

Here is the circuit

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 21, 2010, 10:22:58 PM

Here are some things to think about also.
The watts measurements are of the .3ohm resistors. The source resistor should give a very good indication of power taken from the source over a period of time.

The other R of the lrc on the left, we are only seeing the power dissipated by that resistor. We have power being dissipated in the coil, we have power being dissipated recharging the discharge cap. Those add up to plenty.

Remember what the input power was when you first charged the cap? Well thats what kind of power the lrc circuit has to do to bring it back up from zero to almost source voltage. And power the resistor we are watching in the scope. Then we only have to top it off with source voltage after the first cycle.

Next will be getting the switching automated. I was going to work on it last night till Void saw something I didnt.
Hey, until I got home from work today, I thought of nothing else. When I sat down at the computer and logged in, I had no clue I was going to add a recharge circuit. But it came from watching the cutoff diode and seeing the cap always empty and having to get a dump from the source in a big way. When I added the diode only at first, I maybe got a cycle and a half before the oscillator died and woopy if I got some recharge, my output was crap. And I would have been happy with just gettin half recharge potential, heck anything to help the source not have to work so hard and reduce the input cycle.
But I added a coil to the diode and vuala. She peals enough for about 90 percent recharge and the power dissipated by the resistor. The unreal kw(short time though) it takes to charge that cap empty, we brought it down to about 15w after the first cycle, over a much shorter time than the output lasts. Tesla trix.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 21, 2010, 11:19:07 PM

Ok new circuit. I used a diode and a coil, just all these Extra coils, to replace the switch to charge from the source so it does it automatically. It charges to the discharge cap WHILE the lrc charges, so the combo working together charges the cap even more than source. The charge on that cap begins at about 180v after power up from the 100v source, because of the coil and the diode.

So now all we have to do is turn on the power switch at the right and wait for the cap to charge. Now discharge till cutoff and release. You will notice the caps charge increases with each recharge. It will hopefully stop at some point. Naturally if the caps recharge increases after each recharge, there will be more energy in the lrc, thus more energy for recharge..

Notice the input power when you switch it on. Then watch it after the first discharge and recharge.

Ok back to work. The input switch is solved. =] Now the cutoff switch. Goin with mosfets. I gota eat foist.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 21, 2010, 11:39:43 PM

Hi everyone good day ;D

its nice to be back again though i'm sad co'z sir otto is not here anymore, may he rest in peace.

well, good digging buddy.

THIS IS FOR THE WORLD!

YOU HAVE TO TRAP THE ENERGY IN FIRSTIME YOU FEEL THE VOLTAGE INCREASE OK!

THAT IS ALSO THE MODIFICATION I MADE IN IGNITION PATENT. THE REST IS SELF EXPLANATORY OK!

sorry, i will answer if i want to answer ok!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 22, 2010, 12:37:43 AM

Hey Teets.

Well it took a while, but the back of my mind was working and the answers come later.

I have some work to do and then to bed. Im tired.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 22, 2010, 12:45:48 AM

Look Ma No Switches

Maybe next time. =]

1 switch to go.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 22, 2010, 08:40:35 AM

Mags
Yikes,
you are puttin in the hours on this bud!
Sounds like you are nippin at the heels of OU!

@Teetsla
Yes it is a real shock about Otto ,and seeing his picture
makes me extra sad somehow.

Perhaps he pulls some strings for us now?

There is something in the wind these days!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: void109 on September 22, 2010, 04:12:28 PM

Mags,

That's a crazy circuit. If the sim reflects reality - I think you've found the golden ticket. Think its time to start duct taping together some real-world prototypes. Its really astonishing after you've given it a few dozen pulses. Input goes to 0W, output continues to scale, primary cap voltage keeps climbing. It looks like your charging the primary cap both from the battery and skimming some from the output resonate oscillations.

When I set my time step sufficiently small, I just watch the input power usage, the moment it starts climbing, I release the switch. That seems the optimal time. Maybe that can be used as a trigger to cut off current.

Very cool Mags.

I'll attach the import code.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tenbatsu on September 22, 2010, 04:24:09 PM

Let's hope that the circuit works the same way in real life as it does in the simulation.

This could be huge, good work Magluvin.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 22, 2010, 05:57:53 PM

Thanks guys

Still more work to go. I will work on the switching more tonight.

And we will have to work on a usable output strategy. Im just happy to have a basic understanding going here.

Hey Void
I had not taken it up that high yet. But it does appear to be on its own without the battery. Have you tried to turn off the power switch and continue pulsing? Your circuit is huge on my screen, the top and bot are cutoff. Normally if ya want to center the circuit to the screen, just add a wirer in the black and undo, but no luck. Can you retry to upload, and also re import before sending to see if all is good. =]

Like I said, I didnt take it that far yet, but I had thoughts of what if it goes beyond where you have gotten if the source would even want to join in due to the higher potentials in the lrc and discharge cap. If we reverse the input diode, change the source to a cap and maybe thats where we can get our usable output. Maybe we have to get her up and running and then its on its own and provides output. I just came up with that.

But that sounds good dont it? Its is now on the list. First, automate the switching.

This is fun. And I hope everyone benefits from this.

BBL

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on September 22, 2010, 06:22:41 PM

Hi Magluvin, Void and all,

I have to catch up on reading, haven't been on the computer in a couple days, but your circuit looks promising. This could work if we could super cool the wires to bring the resistance down or use 4/0 gauge wire with extremely short interconnects.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: void109 on September 22, 2010, 08:02:02 PM

We might want to review what "Trapezoidal Approximation" means with respect to circuit simulators. I noticed that all of the inductors I add are set for this approximation method by default. When I uncheck this option, the amazing results dont look as amazing. Can anyone shed some light on this simulation technique and how it may affect simulations such as these?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 22, 2010, 08:55:47 PM

Hey DreamTinker

Well, In my last circuit, we are showing some progress. And the logic I present is good. Even if at times I am missing something, the rest is on par. ;]

In the last circuit, we are also in a realm of not looking so impossible. All parts could be had at radio shack, but ebay will get you there better, as in caps and wire/coil, And diodes. I would prefer not to have a 60 gal drum coil in my room for experiments. My aim is small. From there, the story will be told.

If i can make my idea work that charges a cap in place of the source and reverse that source diode, the inductor may have to change value, but I think we can skim output to a cap for usable output without trying to dissipate power into the LRC resistor. We can then lower that resistor and retune so there is very little power burned in that resistor and use that power towards output gain. Sound reasonable? =]

Im glad you all so far get the gist of what is happening here. Its good.

Once we get the switching down, then we will fine tune diss ting. As you can see, I havnt had any real accurate looking figures for component values. Ba so what, Thats how we know we can take this further. Thats when we will have shweetness.

But I think my 2mh coil can handle a couple hundred watts. It will depend what we are trying to power that will determine the build requirements. Heck 4 awg is small in custom stereo. Thats good for up to around 1kw by rule of thumb. I have been involved with systems up to 17kw. And have witnessed over 60kw systems. Most of these were DB Drag vehicles, goin foe over 180db, actually I think they broke that record, I think Pioneer did it in their sponsored truck. Thats like standing 100ft away from the space shuttle taking off.. Lots of power.

But lets just stay small and cordial and gitter dun.

Havnt had much objection to these last pages. Void found an issue and we made quick progress from that point.

I encourage people that have the ability to do so to try a few circuits in the sim and compare to what is real.

My friend has a circut that he built from a "Natural Health" book that they call the zapper. It has a 9v bat a 555 and a few caps and resistors. But he didnt know if it was working. I checked it with my meter,Wavetek 2030, and the was output voltage, but no hz. I found he had missed a wire in the schematic and we got it workin. Was about 32khz. And I ran the sim on the circuit values and we were ready to bet a G on it. And some other circuits like the source to discharge cap circuit, well it works in real life too.

This inertial effect thing has destroyed the way I thought about inductors. Its seemingly mechanical. If you know what I mean then you get what this circuits secrets are. Its no secret, its just a state of mind. lol

Ok back to the mosfets that dont blow! SIM baby. Nice tool on the whim.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 22, 2010, 09:14:48 PM

Hey void Ill check that out. I would venture to say that hopefully it is not fooling us. Why write a sim that starts us off in the wrong direction or just a bad position. Maybe there is a range of properties for an inductor, that can be in the other direction of this Approximation. I dunno. But good find. I had thought of it when changing values but figured stay in default for the reasons above.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 22, 2010, 09:38:48 PM

Be careful with the sim results. Last year I was experimenting with it and it tricked me to think that I had OU.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.msg213051#msg213051

Jesus

Update:

Link explaining a mistake
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.msg214215#msg214215

I thought That I had closed the loop.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.msg215575#msg215575

The code for the simulated circuit
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.msg215716#msg215716

I do expect that you are not pasing for the same thing.
So I do wish you all the success that you can attain.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 22, 2010, 09:46:23 PM

Hey Void

I tried, using my last circuit posted, and first I changed the input coil and turned on the power switch, and it doesnt seem to affect that function much. But I did the lrc coil and that coils is just way damped. Your right, we need to find out what it means. I used to know this. Ill get it.
I wonder if it would have to do with air core or iron core? Iron core for low freq and air for high freq.

Our source to charge cap is very low freq, and is not affected by the approximation option so that coil will work well for that end of the circuit, where as the lrc is working a high freq. Ill go check for sure as to if im correct.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: void109 on September 22, 2010, 09:56:01 PM

Mags - I'll be interested to read what you find regarding how the approximation is affecting the circuit. I'd dig into it tonight myself, but I have other life matters (such as yard work!) that's eating my afternoon/evening :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 22, 2010, 10:17:29 PM

Hey Jesus
I looked at that circuit and i see that diode and cap in series, the diode with like 214mv on it. This can give the program a bug. Imagine any charge or current going through that diode, it will very quickly charge that cap and eventually, the cap can no longer be influenced to charge any further unless it has the opertunities of power to pump that cap till it pops. Unless that is the function there, to just keep launching a higher and higher pulse to get that cap higher. But it can never discharge. Never. Maybe diode leakage, or cap leakage. Its just that part of the circuit does not make sence to me, so why should the sim understand it. ;]

I have had situations in the sim like this and it can cause anomalies or just no function at all once the cap is full and cannot discharge back through the diode. The 2 parts just be come dead to the rest of the circuit.

But I do head your warning. And we all should remember that this is just a sim and some theory. I had a complicated bunch of resonating coils and caps that once charged, started building on its own. But the fine tuning was just silly. It would take a great deal of time to go at it for real. This is interesting and shows promise.

If anything at all, I think the EXTRA coil is what we have in the source to cap circuit. Why have it there at all,to stop dc impulses? Yep it does that. But add a diode and your pumping that cap to almost twice the source. Try it, it works. Its not the normal chopper circuit way. Its a one shot inline current pump. Throw extra coils and diodes where ever a pulsed dc charge is to be sent and see if there are results. Better than a resistor.

I also see the Extra coil effect in the lrc. The coil has an opposition to current change. And some of that means that if we have current flow, the coil is reluctant to it slowing down in ideal conditions. So we have the coil being charged up with current, and when we let loose, she pumps a whole bunch of current fro one side of the cap to the other. Thats where we get such high voltages in the cap. And the smaller the cap, the higher the voltage potential is, and sets it off into the coil again. So its just a kind of mechanical function if you can visualize it. Can it be done mechanically? Maybe.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 23, 2010, 02:49:01 AM

He he sims are looking nice ,the same for resonance in real world but once you try connecting load power dissapears.

I'm interested in pure electric field. Is it true that moving electrons using pure electric field do not require work to be done ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 23, 2010, 06:09:02 AM

This is what we should be thinking if we want to have an OU device!

How to trap the moment increased energy and place it in a controllable fashion?

This is actually the great discovery of Tesla in colorado spring that wasn't recorded. (TRAPPING THE SLIGHT INCREASED)

it should be faster than a twinkling of an eye. ;)

AGAIN FOR THE WORLD!

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 23, 2010, 06:43:04 AM

I THINK THERE IS NO MORE REASON NOW FOR US TO NOT GETTING IT. :)

THATS ALL FOR THE WORLD. ;)

BYE, TAKE CARE WORLD.

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on September 23, 2010, 08:56:10 AM

But you already told us. With extra coil and a small capacitor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 23, 2010, 09:04:16 AM

Teets
Thanks ,I think mags is on the right track,And I believe
What you said ,while it may seem obvious,the trapping[and keeping] part must be a bit "tricky"!

Although I must add ,Things do seem to be coming into focus,"Voltage" not so much "current"seems to be a theme around the OU world!
Any how ,It is good to see your face > ;D< Teets.

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: void109 on September 23, 2010, 02:47:32 PM

I was working with the circuit, and I have one that will work with no manual switch, and shows OU results in the sim with or without trapazoidal approximation. Attaching it as a txt file. I replaced the switch with two diodes and a spark gap. This of course means I had to increase the voltage. I think 400V is a reasonable minimum for obtaining a solid spark gap.

I may try to set this up with a 4kV power source as I have high voltage parts falling out of my ears (spent a long time working out that first tesla coil). The only problem though is with higher voltages (4kV is the smallest HV transformer I have) is the inductor that's by the SG or where the manual switch was, will see voltages upwards of 1MV in the sim. That is, with a 4kV source. And I dont have nearly enough high voltage diodes to put in series to block that lol

Funny though, putting a spark gap in the circuit and looking at the inductor placement, I cant help but think of Kapanadze's device. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: void109 on September 23, 2010, 02:51:25 PM

Sorry for the double post, but I just tried taking the above circuit and changing the output load to higher values. This does two things, it lowers the component voltages of the circuit significantly, and also smooths out the sim performance. It retains its apparent OU behavior. Try switching the load resistance to 100ohms :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 23, 2010, 02:59:55 PM

I do not think that showing resonant circuits with extremely large current rise would help us.
It is probably only a first step to obtain energy gain.Remember that we accumulated energy in a long time run. The key is how to "spread" this accumulated energy around and collect it back - with gain from ambient source.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: void109 on September 23, 2010, 03:17:01 PM

Now I just feel like I'm spamming! But I simplified the circuit greatly, so I'm posting another txt file with the import code for the falstad sim, as well as a screenshot.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 23, 2010, 07:26:44 PM

Hey Void

Was watching your circuit. I pulled up a scope of the source and it is running a constant 1.4kw or so.
I was shocked to see such flat seemingly dc ins and out power shots. Then I slowed down the sim speed and I could see the current flow better. Thats when I scoped the source.
I havnt tried anything with changing values yet. I also tried to speed up the scopes to get a freq reading.
Couldnt do it. Your values are the same as my LC of the lrc. But it seems like very high freq. And thats ok.

Its good though. Keep working on it. The right basic ideas are applied, but cant say why the input res shows such a low value for power yet the source is almost output power. Hmmm I will try my circuit again with a source scope shot to see if we are missing this there also. I dont think so since current visually stops from the source eventually.

Thanks for spending the time Void. I think we should have things worked out by the weekend pretty much.

I got distracted last night so I didnt get much done. Just got off work and will be at it shortly.

Thanks Void. We will get it. I am tryin to stay low in power and voltages. To see more power just increase the source. Of course if we want the oscillations to last longer and give longer output for each discharge, the working voltages need to be high. Like in my first circuit with the diode regulation strips, pealing off 7v per half cycle from almost 400kv, it takes a while, as compared to a couple thousand volts.

Tesla was MR. Megavolt but in the end, he concentrated on small portable units. Even he had seen, why have the big transmitter at all. We can just have small individual power units.

ok Be back in a bit

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: void109 on September 23, 2010, 07:34:19 PM

Mags,

I agree, low power, small individual units is the way to go. I just couldn't figure out a way to get those abrupt on's and off's (yet) so a spark gap seemed a reasonably easy thing to set up and tune, to remove the manual switching. I'm going to keep looking for a way to get the abrupt switching with a low power solid state circuit design as well.

I may be able to throw together a high voltage proof of concept device easily, I'll have to rummage through parts - could use halogen lights as a load ala Kapagen.

I've had limited time to work on this as well, always torn between doing the work that pays the power bill, or doing the work that may remove the power bill altogether :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 23, 2010, 08:40:00 PM

Hey Void

I think mosfets in parallel can give good switching. Unless you have tried it. Remember, if you are worried about freq with the fets, they wont be operating at the freq of the lrc, it will be much lower than that. It should be on for as long as it takes to empty the cap, then wait. I will be at it in a bit, im in need of sustenance. Fewd! lol

I just got an Alienware laptop from my buddy. Was from the original co. Gateway owns them now I think.
I have been running this sim on my 1.6ghz pc. I wanna see the diff. This laptop is huge, but packed for gaming.
He got a new something so I got this cheap.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 24, 2010, 09:33:35 PM

I tried the mfets and I didnt like the way things worked. The fet or fets seemed to not deliver to the coil from the cap no where close to a switch. Tried 4 in parallel and no better. But I do have an issue with how it worked otherwise also. It drew current from the battery in gobs, but wont deliver to the coil? And this was hooked up the same place as the switch in correct polarity also.

I rigged it up using a "switch" and resistors to just see what the source and drain would do. It continues to conduct after releasing the switch. I tried putting the fets in a different place on the black board yet with same connections, but same results. That was just to test the sim for stupid errors from having wire crossings, but was consistent.

So then I came up with another Idea today. Well, remembered someone elses idea, Tesla Igniter Pat. I think it is possible that the 2mh inductor is too much for the fets. But where I see them do very well is in pwm supplies, where mostly the primary of the transformer or inductor really isnt anything near the 2mh coil I have. Just a few or more turns on the primary. Soooo, we activate the oscillations with a primary coil of low no. of turns and heavy wire, say 10 awg or bigger. I am going at it right now on the sim. The cutoff still needs to happen. The primary cannot be a drag on the secondary after the cycles have started, so it has to disconnect until it is ready to to take a discharge again. In other words, if the primary is not connected to anything, the secondary will just act as an inductor.

In any case, I am just going to try the fets on a small henry transformer primary and see if there are any differences. Well, maybe I can just lower my henrys in my circuit. Me dumdum.

Be back

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 24, 2010, 11:31:31 PM

here is an interesting thing. This circuit could be a tpu. I dunno. If the inductor has an opposition to current changes, then if we have a diode and load resistor, then KICK the coil, well just load the code in the sim.

Just tap the switch and watch the first scope vs last scope these show first power input on left and load output on right. Then tap more, fast slow, Is this as easy as it gets er wut. lol I can say that this is very very easy to try in the real world.

I also got some good mosfet switching happening now. I should have something to show tomorrow.

But for this lil code here, what are some thoughts out there. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 25, 2010, 01:33:25 AM

Was thinking about these resistive loads and what to do of it. If they were heaters, and we were able to tune these things right, you could boil water for a steam engine. Err whatever needs heat. But instead of a steam engine to provide motive force, we change out the inductor from my last circuit code, to a dc motor, Or my first circuit code for ac induction motors. The motors would need to be impedance matching for best results. The resistor loads need to be fine tuned also, to get the most out of the output. Could that be what Tesla did in the Peirce Arrow? Big 80hp AC induction motor. Could the motor be the inductor, add a big diode and spike that thing. Kinda crazy.

Mags Crazy

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: void109 on September 25, 2010, 02:42:10 AM

Nice circuit you've posted, very trimmed down. I was playing with it, and as you increase the load resistance you have to increase the induction proportionally. Its kind of creepy how if the induction is sufficiently larger than the load resistance, the output versus input goes up dramatically.

Its too late or something, I honestly dont understand the outputs - I dont understand how the output can sustain so much longer than the input.

Here's a variation (see attachment)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 25, 2010, 11:26:01 AM

Very good Void.
It is doing the job well. I changed the coil to 2mh and works well also.
I think the sim needs simple. But what you have here and my lil circuit, I think its time to put it on the bench and see what we can do. I have all weekend to play in the electron sandbox.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: void109 on September 25, 2010, 03:31:06 PM

I wish I did, the girlfriend's thirtieth is tonight, there's most of my weekend surely, and I have some work to catch up on as well. This coming week I am going to hammer together a device for sure, probably of the higher voltage variety - as mentioned before, just because I have plenty of components, oh and high voltage experiments are like a geeks' version of extreme sports haha

This is a fun circuit/idea/theory to play with, I'm having a blast, thanks for sharing it! :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: void109 on September 25, 2010, 05:33:36 PM

I have been making measurement errors - I think. Placing a resistor at the beginning or end of the circuit and measuring power dissipated for that resistor I dont believe describes the power consumed by the circuit. We can use that resistor to calculate the amps drawn from the power source, but we then need to multiply that by the power supply voltage instead.

If we use the circuit I posted the other day as an example, attaching it below, it shows the output load (100 ohm resistor) having a power dissipation of 1.58 KW and the 300mOhm input resistor shows 4.74 watts dissipated. OU! Or not. Instead if I look at the amps flowing over the 300m resistor, I see its 3.98 amps. 3.98A x 400V = P = 1.592KW.

Is this correct? If so couldnt one of you lurkers skulking in the shadows have pointed that out earlier hehe? :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: void109 on September 25, 2010, 05:37:24 PM

Unfortunately I think this accounts for the circuit you posted showing inductor inertia, it's not so straightforward of a case, but if you just watch the amps over the 10m resistor and multiply that by the 50V supply voltage, those 'starting' pulses are huge amounts of power.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: romerouk on September 26, 2010, 06:12:02 PM

Here is a simple way to demonstrate energy amplification. I have used this circuit with very good results and also used in the kapanadze 12 volt replication I have. D1 togheter with the right pulsing adjustment is the key to get a succesfuly working device. I hope people will understand what that D1 is doing there... I have tried to explain this before but nobody seems to understand.
Check the folowing link for more details http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 26, 2010, 07:00:33 PM

romerouk
Quote:
I have tried to explain this before but nobody seems to understand.
----------------------------
Sir perhaps another try?[at explaining]

You are preaching to the choir here!!

Thank you,

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on September 26, 2010, 09:56:24 PM

well..I would say.. If there won`t be diode, then the fast colapsing magnetic field which release all energy stored by previsous pulse at one time+voltage induced by momentum of charges will results as current flow in the secondary. Which will have opposite polarity like before(when the tranzistor are on)
That is most effective when core is propper closed and primary to secondary is bifilar wound on.(L1 have same value as L2). Then, because in the primary, energy cannot flow anywhere, all energy collapse to the secondary and then in secondary you can measure: the first pulse energy+Bemf+voltage induced inertia of charges in the primary.
Otherwise, when you connect the diode like picture below, then part of energy will burn on it, and part of energy will burn in load on secondary.
Of course the current flow across diode and primary will also induce some energy in the secondary, but still, serious energy is lost to nothing. Coil discharge is not that strong as capacitor discharge.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 27, 2010, 02:21:54 AM

GOOD DAY! ;D

Well, i must admit that you're all doing a great job!.

though your work seems so complicated to me, but still good. :)

we actually need only coil, caps, diode, zdiode and relay to complete the working device that will last for 11 years :)

Note: A.) Electricity is dual in one "CRON". so separate them then, Walla, we have controllable
energy!
B.) We can actually re-use the collapsing magnetic field to make an extremely strong magnetic
field.

remember: how the nature work as tesla say about the rolling stone ice.

I think the next time i return here is, i will just congratulate all of you.

bye!

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 27, 2010, 03:08:44 AM

Quote from: romerouk on September 26, 2010, 06:12:02 PM
Here is a simple way to demonstrate energy amplification. I have used this circuit with very good results and also used in the kapanadze 12 volt replication I have. D1 togheter with the right pulsing adjustment is the key to get a succesfuly working device. I hope people will understand what that D1 is doing there... I have tried to explain this before but nobody seems to understand.
Check the folowing link for more details http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm

He he look how we are approaching Tesla method of conversion while trying to find the simplest circuit using electronic solid state parts.... ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 27, 2010, 03:26:42 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 27, 2010, 02:21:54 AM
GOOD DAY! ;D

Well, i must admit that you're all doing a great job!.

though your work seems so complicated to me, but still good. :)

we actually need only coil, caps, diode, zdiode and relay to complete the working device that will last for 11 years :)

Note: A.) Electricity is dual in one "CRON". so separate them then, Walla, we have controllable
energy!
B.) We can actually re-use the collapsing magnetic field to make an extremely strong magnetic
field.

remember: how the nature work as tesla say about the rolling stone ice.

I think the next time i return here is, i will just congratulate all of you.

bye!

;D

Eh Tito! Still so mysterious ? This is basic Tesla method of conversion with one clever trick. The every try here and in youtube is missing what Tesla stressed - break at the peak of the wave ! not before not after not longer!!! You would ask : "but in DC we have no wave " ?? think about it what remain!?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: romerouk on September 27, 2010, 03:31:14 AM

Simple is what we need and simple works great. Replace the transistor with a spark gap... like in Tesla times...
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/reson.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 27, 2010, 03:58:00 AM

Quote from: romerouk on September 27, 2010, 03:31:14 AM
Simple is what we need and simple works great. Replace the transistor with a spark gap... like in Tesla times...
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/reson.html

NO NO NO

not transistor, something else ;)

P.S. damn close

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 27, 2010, 04:28:21 AM

Something like that. Just replace spark gap with appropriate part.
There is no load at output here. I doubt any simulation will help.Does it properly simulate BEMF with total responding of parts ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 27, 2010, 08:14:09 PM

SSsssooo Mags,
Hows Tings??

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 27, 2010, 10:24:11 PM

Tings? I hoid some tings!

Baa had people over this weekend and just couldnt get down to it.

Actually just really sitting down now to do some work. Time is of the essence. I just aint had no essence. lol

Im still fired up about this. Heck i spent almost a year tinkerin with Whipmag, after most others had a year in already.
Its funny, in the end we may say, wow, is it that simple? I am beginning to to get a feel for these circuits.
For a bit I was just tossin diodes and coils on every leg. Just to see what it would do.

But now down to the switching. I am going to go the route that Tito proposes using a relay. He also said zener diode and has said it before. I had asked him once, on a whim, if he was using a zener in place of a spark gap, and he said YES. But it was a whim thought. Im still not clear in how.
But since he said it in his last post, it seems to be an area to concentrate on.
My first thoughts of how to use it, thinking while doing other stuff, is to use the zener to control the relay? But how? Or is it used like the diode I put across the discharge cap to get it to stop discharge at zero, or near.

I find the diode on the cap probably does near to what the magnet quenching spark gap did for tesla. We will call it a discharge cutoff. But its is not finished yet, cuz Im still pullin the switch.
I dont think a relay will give great accuracy here, but with the diodes, it might not have to be accurate in cutoff time. As to say, if we used the zener some how to control the operation of the relays solenoid, would the physical switching action be timely to the event.
So maybe it is used in some way to provide cutoff directly, and, through its cutoff action, provide a control signal for the relay.

Again, just thoughts over the last couple hours since I read Teets post.

Anyway, Im guna do some electron flow on the table over here for a bit and see what I can see. =]

Thanks for the Tips Teets. I know you think its easy, but you have given a puzzle that doesnt make a picture yet, if you know what I mean.. If I told you that you need flour, water, eggs, yeast and salt, to maka de fresha italiano breada, How many trys would it take for you to maka de nica tastya breada, without clear instructions? =]

So I have made a lot of bada breada. I still eat it and grow from it.

Mags

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 27, 2010, 11:38:37 PM

Please don't use spark gap anymore ok! make a silent explotion ok! ;D

Like an auto engine, The power is pure but silent in nature. ;D

The very fast bouncing point inside a cap is the direction if it is neg or pos bounce and from there we can collect all pos and neg bounce and from there also we develop a strong pressure, and if we have that pressure we want then thats the time we connect and distribute water to the consumer, ha,ha,ha sorry. i hope you can decipher it, its fun. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 28, 2010, 01:21:19 AM

Hey Teets

I get the bounce and the high pressures that are happening here. The smaller the cap, the higher the voltage, the stronger the bounce. The inertia that is built up in the coil, is like pouring a swimming pool into a cup.

I have a few ideas of how it can be done. But I dont get the zener. It conducts both ways, one way depending on the zener voltage, and the other like a diode. I know that I presented the question of the zener as a spark gap, but honestly, I cannot guess why. The only clue that made me think of it was that the zener has a threshold voltage that could possibly be used some way. And its been a while since I asked you that question, i still dont got it yet.

But I am workin on it. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 28, 2010, 04:37:46 AM

Mags

I feel it is like using pressure from a tank without allowing water to escape. You got a kick of pressure which moves water inside hose like squeezing hose while water in tank is in tank so pressure is still there.got it ?
you have to have very and I mean very fast valve with cutoff as sharp as a razor-blade . Tito also mentioned something about one-way valve but here I'm not sure exactly how it works.
Hmm..maybe it is like having a special tank when pressure can escape only in one direction ? Not sure how to do this .High-self induction coil ? Hmm.. for dead battery such coil from igniter patent, it should not have any difference except you would have troubles to disconnect battery ??? See my hairs ? Horrible ,I do not want to be electrocuted ! Have to find a coil to protect my dead battery

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 28, 2010, 07:05:04 AM

Ok, guys , search all Tito tips .. there was one very useful about capacitor.
What element kind is capacitor to the DC circuit ? I think Don Smith said it too -
it is a sink while empty but then when filled it is a GAP.No energy is taken from power source when capacitor is charged! So we must have it charged all the time,right ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on September 28, 2010, 09:08:04 AM

Don't know if I have this right or wrong.

If you use a zenor diode on the flyback line that returns to source, the flyback will have to load the zenor to a minimal level before the zenor opens. Flyback is usually a very reactive energy form showing high volts but minimal amps so maybe the zenor is recompressing the reactive energy to a more usable recharge energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on September 28, 2010, 12:02:54 PM

zener in series? to get higer open voltage?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 28, 2010, 12:51:28 PM

Quote from: IWD on September 28, 2010, 12:02:54 PM
zener in series? to get higer open voltage?

to get silent spark gap very fast ;D clever way

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 28, 2010, 01:02:33 PM

Just home for lunch

Thanks for all the input. We can use all we can get.

I have thought of quite a many ways to use the zener. In the beginning, Teets said to use at least 3v zener. Seems small dont it. But it does not mean it doesnt have a useful purpose here. Just thought I would put this out there for those who are thinking about it. =] In his circuit with the 24/220 transformer using the secondary as a primary, it had shown a regular diode in series with a resistor, but he said to remember to use a zener. I dont know if it is the one in the drawing or additional and not shown.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 28, 2010, 01:03:58 PM

Oh what is a CRON? Teets? I looked it up but not getting notable results in search.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 28, 2010, 01:41:28 PM

Quote from: wattsup on September 28, 2010, 09:08:04 AM
Don't know if I have this right or wrong.

If you use a zenor diode on the flyback line that returns to source, the flyback will have to load the zenor to a minimal level before the zenor opens. Flyback is usually a very reactive energy form showing high volts but minimal amps so maybe the zenor is recompressing the reactive energy to a more usable recharge energy.

almost, remember what Tesla said : we could have many currents flowing in circuit simultaneously and even in the same wire !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on September 28, 2010, 02:35:26 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 28, 2010, 01:03:58 PM
Oh what is a CRON? Teets? I looked it up but not getting notable results in search.

Mags

Since Tito once mentioned, he's a computer science student, it woudn't be unusual for him to use a computer science nomenclature. Here is one example: http://www.scrounge.org/linux/cron.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on September 28, 2010, 03:08:55 PM

Towards zener diode as sparg gap:
As voltage rise the zener diode begin open up and the current rise too, but when the possible source is not able to give more current, the diode stop opening and stay open on some level, where the current from source is able to keep the voltage. (stabilize) but always is passing som little current thru even with voltage about 1-2 volts.(always is acting like big resistor) so ..is no way to close the diod.
Simply told by: when the input voltage drops, even just little, the resistivity of diode or transil rise at once.
The component named "transil" can operate at higher open voltage and can works with bigger current, also used for stabilizing voltage, but he have much sharper VoltAamper charakteristic, and have zero current until is open voltage very close. Ont he other hand...
About sparg gap we can say he have infinite resistance until arch is sparked, (until the dielectricum are perfored) till then is acting like small capacitor.
But we can say the arch have intertia, in time when is sparked, it does not matter on voltage on the input, and the ionized gas will create very conductive path, his resistivity is even little increase in time.
So almost all current aviable from source (kapacitor or output of transformer) is moved, which is not possible with any semiconductor, very close is mosfet transitors, and many people have thinking it is sufficient.(we all see the big spikes on osciloskope)
So, for disruptive discharge is probably better relay, or there is not going about disruptive discharge.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gsmsslsb on September 28, 2010, 07:15:06 PM

Just a thought
What about using a cap and zener to give the wave shape instead of spark gap. Titos silent spark gap.
Gsm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on September 28, 2010, 10:33:16 PM

Holly Zenor Batman.

I know that when you put your volt meter on a battery, you will read the voltage, let's say 3 volts, but when you short the battery terminals, the volt meter will read zero volts. So if you put a 3v zenor in series with a coil and a 3v battery, that coil should pulse. The zenor sees the 3 volts, closes hence shorts the coil and the battery where the voltage falls to zero volts and the zenor opens and the cycle starts again. Could it be that simple.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: slapper on September 28, 2010, 10:43:00 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 28, 2010, 01:03:58 PM
Oh what is a CRON? Teets? I looked it up but not getting notable results in search.

Mags

I'm going with Copper iRON cause that's been my kick lately. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 29, 2010, 12:21:52 AM

Hey Watts
Thats an interesting theory. But can a zener absorb that current? Well, common little ones anyway. Also would this constitute a disruptive discharge as compared to what we might believe we need? Or just an oscillator?
But i get your drift and its a good one.

These are the ways we have to think. Tesla didnt just give it all away. I imagine many have read and investigated his stuff for years, and probably only a handful in comparison saw the light.
So if we pick it apart, tip by tip, we will get there.

Zener zener zener, what if the zener is just in an on state when the relay is on and the discharge ends at 3v, before it gets to zero? But above there was a statement that the zener still conducts some below threshold. Will have to try and see. From my experience with them, they are used to stop spikes above the zener voltage and as regulation devices, like after a resistor to hold the output at 5v steady.
But even if it were inline, would power be coming back through the zener? being that it is a diode from another mother. =]

When I asked Teets about the zener /sparkgap, I had looked up some and there are some big ones. And teets said they can take a lot of voltage, if that was correct in saying. Riddles. He also said that he wasnt using zeners anymore but instead was using caps. ? Remember cap gap? I had thought spike arestor. But I think they are 1 shot devices.
But if we can get the zener working, Ill be good with that, and so will all of you, im sure. ;] Then we can try to graduate to cap gaps.

As Forest says, "something better" well a relay is good as long as the sparks are directed away from the contacts. I have put some circuits together that I could not fully eliminate all the sparking from the contacts and some that I could. But Teets says 11 years, so.

Now that I think about it, maybe in those contact burning circuits, it wasnt bemf crossing the contacts gaps, it could very well have been femf from the coil the switch was breaking contact from. Like in my precharge circuit above that charges a cap to near twice the source. hmm, thats why my diodes in series with the contacts didnt help, because the current was allowed by the diode, cus it wasnt bemf. I always wondered about that. Now I know.

Still working on it

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: e2matrix on September 29, 2010, 01:15:17 AM

Quote from: wattsup on September 28, 2010, 10:33:16 PM
Holly Zenor Batman.

I know that when you put your volt meter on a battery, you will read the voltage, let's say 3 volts, but when you short the battery terminals, the volt meter will read zero volts. So if you put a 3v zenor in series with a coil and a 3v battery, that coil should pulse. The zenor sees the 3 volts, closes hence shorts the coil and the battery where the voltage falls to zero volts and the zenor opens and the cycle starts again. Could it be that simple.

Sounds easy enough to try if you have a Zener. Looking .....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 29, 2010, 01:26:03 AM

Hey Slaps
So wutcha doin with the crons? I had seen some things using copper and iron wire, but never tried.
I understand that there is a delay in iron, and I remember the reverb boxes with the long iron springs for the delay line.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 29, 2010, 01:32:00 AM

I tried the zener cap and source in the sim. I didnt get any oscillation. Source was 5v, and zener starts at 5.6. As I edited the zener, it just showed the current increasing as the zener voltage was lowered. I had a resistor inline also so that the zener would see a drop, cuz I dont think the source has a current limiter, thus resistor.

I was hoping for some crazy thing to happen. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2010, 04:36:58 AM

oh boy! a lot of good points :o

There are times that we want only to permit voltage to pass just for the purpose of addition, cause sometimes current is not important and it plays a destructive force.

Yes! qwert your correct! your a good reader! >:(

IWD : good!

forest says DAMN CLOSE!

Since we are now very close to the truth,
i think lets just talk about Bedini project. ha!ha!ha!ha! ;D

There are lots of genius here i think i must be very careful. ;D

remember: i have now 12 different designs of free energy and i am telling all of them here, only in jumble manner sorry. :(

BUT THEY POSSESS ONE COMMON CIRCUIT AND THAT IS THE AMPLIFICATION technique.

Everyone ok!: used the YIN and YANG technique to dissipate a strong energy and instead used it in
divertion! now don't get mad ok?

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 29, 2010, 06:25:26 AM

"In Chinese philosophy, the concept of yin yang ([yin â€" simplified Chinese: é˜´; traditional Chinese: é™°; pinyin: yÄ«n] [yang - simplified Chinese: é˜³; traditional Chinese: é™½; pinyin: yÃ¡ng] sometimes referred to in the west as yin and yang) is used to describe how polar or seemingly contrary forces are interconnected and interdependent in the natural world, and how they give rise to each other in turn."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yin_and_yang

Yin Yang example
"A zener diode contains a heavily doped p-n junction allowing electrons to tunnel from the valence band of the p-type material to the conduction band of the n-type material, such that the reverse voltage is â€œclampedâ€ to a known value (called the zener voltage), and avalanche does not occur"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diode

" A medium which would merely
crack when strained electrostaticallyâ€"and this possibly might be the
case with a perfect vacuum, that is, pure etherâ€"would involve a very
small loss in the gap, so small as to be entirely negligible, at least
theoretically, because a crack may be produced by an infinitely small
displacement. (...)" To return to the ideal
medium; think, for the sake of illustration, of a piece of glass or similar
body clamped in a vice, and the latter tightened more and more. At a
certain point a minute increase of the pressure will cause the ;glass to
crack. The loss of energy involved in splitting the glass may be practically nothing, for though the force is great, the displacement need
be but extremely small. Now imagine that the glass would possess the
property of closing again perfectly the crack upon a minute diminution of
the pressure. This is the way the dielectric in the discharge space
should behave. But inasmuch as there would be always some loss in the
gap, the medium, which should be continuous should exchange through
the gap at a rapid rate. In the preceding example, the glass being
perfectly closed, it would mean that the dielectric in the discharge space
possesses a great insulating power; the glass being cracked, it would
signify that the medium in the space is a good conductor. The dielectric
should vary enormously in resistance by minute variations of the E. M. F.
across the discharge space. "

Nikola Tesla "ON LIGHT AND OTHER HIGH FREQUENCY PHENOMENA "

So,we have it now.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on September 29, 2010, 07:51:20 AM

Instead of Zener, can I use an avalanche diode?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 29, 2010, 08:18:36 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transient_voltage_suppression_diode ;D

Who now propose modification to Tesla igniter patent ? I'm trying and trying but every circuit has a flaw... :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 29, 2010, 08:22:10 AM

This is interesting : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowbar_%28circuit%29
I heard that Edwin Gray used thyratron

P.S. I hope you have the feeling of idea ? me too,however I doubt it is alone OU :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 29, 2010, 08:32:52 AM

Two graphics to take into consideration. I am not sure about the zener cathode orientation.

I could be wrong though.

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 29, 2010, 10:13:34 AM

Quote from: nievesoliveras on September 29, 2010, 08:32:52 AM
Two graphics to take into consideration. I am not sure about the zener cathode orientation.

I could be wrong though.

Jesus

I like the second one! First may work or may not...hard to say...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pese on September 29, 2010, 12:45:36 PM

Quote from: nievesoliveras on September 29, 2010, 08:32:52 AM
Two graphics to take into consideration. I am not sure about the zener cathode orientation.

I could be wrong though.

Jesus

In both circuits..
not any AC or DC currents can flow via the zeber-diode connection ...
Boh are nonsens. Sorry

G. Pese

P.S.

shorted and open circuits cant work

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 29, 2010, 01:47:35 PM

yep they are not complete,but every circuit need improvements ;)
first we need to charge cap ...then coil..then zener..then bah ha ha ha ha ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 29, 2010, 02:43:49 PM

Quote from: pese on September 29, 2010, 12:45:36 PM

In both circuits..
not any AC or DC currents can flow via the zeber-diode connection ...
Boh are nonsens. Sorry

G. Pese

P.S.

shorted and open circuits cant work

The pulse circuit close the open circuit and charge the capacitor, then it is suposed that the zener allows the flow and give a shot to the other transformer and part of the flow goes back as feedback.

Could you draw the improvements that the circuits need to work according to your expertize?

Jesus

Update

A good pulser could be the one that was done by @geotron:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9551.msg252079#msg252079

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pese on September 29, 2010, 03:32:18 PM

No, i cant, drawn an circuit for Energy ampÃ¶ification.
Bu i can let you know, that both Ddrawn have in eny
electric or electroncs mo eny sense tat Power (amlification or losses (!!)
can flow.
Gustav Pese

www.alt-nrg.de/pese

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 29, 2010, 04:33:07 PM

Quote from: pese on September 29, 2010, 03:32:18 PM
No, i cant, drawn an circuit for Energy ampÃ¶ification.
Bu i can let you know, that both Ddrawn have in eny
electric or electroncs mo eny sense tat Power (amlification or losses (!!)
can flow.
Gustav Pese

www.alt-nrg.de/pese

Do you think that this other energy amplification circuit is wrong too?

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 29, 2010, 05:21:13 PM

@pese

You were right!

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pese on September 29, 2010, 05:36:37 PM

Quote from: nievesoliveras on September 29, 2010, 05:21:13 PM
@pese

You were right!

Jesus

pls give attention

the circuit-loop (cap/zener) in the top-line,
is an open circuit that (will) connect the 1. (left) to the 2. part of transformer-coupled part..
BUT it need an SECOND wireing to have
an closed circuit that connet the 2 parts.

The ONE Wire line wit cap and zener is not enought ! ! (Ground-line ?)
An other connection mus comes in the circuit, so that (possibly) some current can flow over
the part in the top of schematics.

Pese

P.S. this is only an help, to make an little more sense to an
electronic circuit, BUT , it is an lot more in,
that wil and acan NOT work.

You will find this , in your experience that you can
now start in an better way.

But in any way, i can not lead you to
"ampify energy"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 29, 2010, 05:37:16 PM

first one looks nice,not perfect just nice

questions:

is zener diode in good position ?
what is triggering zener diode ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 29, 2010, 05:39:02 PM

why there is capacitor on feedback loop ?

I do not state I understand this circuit nor that it won't work
just for me a few elements are missing or misplaced, well maybe 2 ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pese on September 29, 2010, 05:44:02 PM

Quote from: nievesoliveras on September 29, 2010, 04:33:07 PM
Do you think that this other energy amplification circuit is wrong too?

Jesus

This shown Diagramm (BDX87 Darlington Transistor) is an very know, and usually shematic
that can uses as inverter.
Low voltages to any higher (or lower) voltages.

work on higher frequencies (usually 5000 to 20.000 Hertz - in relation zo Cap and inductor/transformer CORE-material)
But in any way, no amplification the Power.

Only voltage can amplify (current go down.
Or transform the Voltages lower with higher currents.

In any Way the volt time amperes = watt (power)

this exeed never the need input power to drive this.

Normal way about 90% effency

Gustav Pese

P.S.

Do not buy this Darlington Transistor. : use
2 normal transitors and 2N3055 and Tip 31 (Bd241) instead

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 29, 2010, 05:52:21 PM

Thank you @pese

Quote from: forest on September 29, 2010, 05:37:16 PM
first one looks nice,not perfect just nice

questions:

is zener diode in good position ?
what is triggering zener diode ?

You must test if it let the voltage through on this position, without reaching its activation voltage. If it does, switch it the other way and retest.
A voltage that is less than its activation voltage should be blocked.

It supposed to be triggered by the rising voltage on the secondary coil that fills the cap to its capacity.

I must say here that I am just learning.

Update

Quote from: forest on September 29, 2010, 05:39:02 PM
why there is capacitor on feedback loop ?

I do not state I understand this circuit nor that it won't work
just for me a few elements are missing or misplaced, well maybe 2 ::)

I thought that it was needed there to protect the diode and the battery from the spark intensity.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 29, 2010, 06:50:02 PM

I liked Nieves circuit, but the zener was in the wrong direction. I have not tuned it in the least, just got it done.
But the zener does do the deed, at 480v threshold.
I will play more with this tonight. But I wanted to share. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 29, 2010, 07:42:25 PM

Ok took a bit of time, but here is something that looks good.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 29, 2010, 07:48:47 PM

Its not ou, but the function is there. I just have to look up what zeners are out there and if they can handle the currents of the caps discharge. Im sure its a lot. I will have to try it on a smaller scale with what I have, unless in teets setup, the zener has another function rather than being the spark gap directly.
We continue on....
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 29, 2010, 08:28:39 PM

After messing with the circuit, I see that when the cap gets charged, when the zener dumps, it is also pulling from the cap charging transformer, through the normal diode, and causing some serious input power issues.

I am not sure this is what we want.

Another reason I say this, Teets said in the latest tips, coil caps diode zener and relay. Well if the relay is the cap dumper then where does the zener go? Is it just used to skim off of the top instead? But then again, the zener has something to do with the spark gap portion, as teets claimed to me.

We have to think of something whacky.

Im thinkin and Im a bit whacky! ;] I gota eat.

Magshungry

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2010, 09:19:35 PM

ok! ok! here is the yin and yang sample if you really want to use spark gap:

Use the increasing energy by making an electromagnet that use to push the inrush energy at the tip of extra coil going to the aluminum plate. in this sense, no matter how strong the spark is, it is being pushed by its energy itself.

The earth is rotating with the speed suitable for us to live isn't it?
now there is actually a reason why we should use just a relay. use it how nature works.

Forest sorry i lied a little to you ok. :D

Every effect has a corresponding use ok, you place them where they are meant to be. that is where a good designer is born.

Now if your design is made correct then you have a lasting device ok!.

happy experimenting everyone, always be careful, use a lot of sense, especially the 6th sense of
balance.

mags, you always makes me laugh. ;D

oh boy i got to eat also, titshungry ;D

The amplification presented by our fellow experimenters are not wrong, they were just not what tesla is saying, there is other way ok, it is rolling ice stone and the one that i say long time ago, the falling domino has the same meaning or effect.

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 29, 2010, 10:38:01 PM

Well Glad to hear I can be funny. =]

Ok boys, we have a new ingredient, Aluminum plate Man, this isnt going to get easier is it.

Ok hungrytits I gota ask, and I know that the answer is going to be, well, just the way you always answer.

You say coil caps diodes zener diode Can you at minimum tell us how many of each would be required? Its confusing when you just say coil and then extra coil, so that would imply 2, or more. Not the values, but at least how many of each would be in the circuit. Cuz like there could be 10 diodes in series, somewhere, and Im not asking where. If we just at least had a component count, it would be of great assistance. And now we have an aluminum plate. Not asking what for, but is it necessary. Wut do ya say? Can we get this party started? ;]

And for all

I did a bit of tuning, but I cannot say the out is totally more than the in. I put a cap on the primary of the input transformer to try and limit the input power while still getting quality output, and it helped reduce the amount of power getting from the input transformer to the output transformer. Im not convinced that this is how its done.

But have a looky The first scope is of the pulse gen directly to be sure of power consumed, and it shows the + and - power also. Does that mean that the - power is power being input to it from bemf? dunno, but the last 2 scopes are of the zener and the ouput load resistor. The zener seems to be consuming most of the output, but it plus the itty bitty resistor power look to be more than consumed input.

Mags and the 3kv zener I have not even looked to see if they exist yet. Im afraid if they do. =]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 30, 2010, 08:18:13 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2010, 09:19:35 PM
ok! ok! here is the yin and yang sample if you really want to use spark gap:

Use the increasing energy by making an electromagnet that use to push the inrush energy at the tip of extra coil going to the aluminum plate. in this sense, no matter how strong the spark is, it is being pushed by its energy itself.

The earth is rotating with the speed suitable for us to live isn't it?
now there is actually a reason why we should use just a relay. use it how nature works.

Rotating relay hmm ?

Quote
Forest sorry i lied a little to you ok. :D

but where :-\ ?

Quote
Every effect has a corresponding use ok, you place them where they are meant to be. that is where a good designer is born.

Now if your design is made correct then you have a lasting device ok!.

do you mean self-runner?

Quote
happy experimenting everyone, always be careful, use a lot of sense, especially the 6th sense of
balance.

mags, you always makes me laugh. ;D

oh boy i got to eat also, titshungry ;D

Quote
The amplification presented by our fellow experimenters are not wrong, they were just not what tesla is saying, there is other way ok, it is rolling ice stone and the one that i say long time ago, the falling domino has the same meaning or effect.

If we have pure potential HV that would attract "dead" electrons from air for example.Not sure if this is correct interpretation but I think we could separate S-Flow from one circuit and spread it around from extra coil which would attract dead electrons or make them push each other in the metals

Quote
otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 01, 2010, 03:14:37 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 29, 2010, 10:38:01 PM
Well Glad to hear I can be funny. =]

Ok boys, we have a new ingredient, Aluminum plate Man, this isnt going to get easier is it.

Ok hungrytits I gota ask, and I know that the answer is going to be, well, just the way you always answer.

You say coil caps diodes zener diode Can you at minimum tell us how many of each would be required? Its confusing when you just say coil and then extra coil, so that would imply 2, or more. Not the values, but at least how many of each would be in the circuit. Cuz like there could be 10 diodes in series, somewhere, and Im not asking where. If we just at least had a component count, it would be of great assistance. And now we have an aluminum plate. Not asking what for, but is it necessary. Wut do ya say? Can we get this party started? ;]

And for all

I did a bit of tuning, but I cannot say the out is totally more than the in. I put a cap on the primary of the input transformer to try and limit the input power while still getting quality output, and it helped reduce the amount of power getting from the input transformer to the output transformer. Im not convinced that this is how its done.

But have a looky The first scope is of the pulse gen directly to be sure of power consumed, and it shows the + and - power also. Does that mean that the - power is power being input to it from bemf? dunno, but the last 2 scopes are of the zener and the ouput load resistor. The zener seems to be consuming most of the output, but it plus the itty bitty resistor power look to be more than consumed input.

Mags and the 3kv zener I have not even looked to see if they exist yet. Im afraid if they do. =]

ok! in my latest experiment and that is experiment #12, I just use 3 blanks, 2 diodes, 2 caps and i got succeed in a controllable voltage i want.

note in this setup there is : no coil, no extra coil, no pulsing, no transformer.

This is very simple but dangerous in nature.

in experiment #11 i made use of 1 primary 2 extra coil, 12 diodes a computer fan a lot of coils. bulky in nature thats why i'm not satisfied. so i made an improvement. but no spark gap, with silent explosion tech.

in exp #10 i used 4 zeners, 5 electrolytic caps, 2 diodes, alternate switching tech, with improved spark gap tech. with lots of bulky transformer

in exp #9 input is signal from atmosphere then amplified using 3 coils and 4
caps. its like a tpu.

and the other previous experiments are just an improvement of different inventions of our fellow experimenters, i'm not interested with those. just made them for fun.

note in all: no free energy to all designs if the tesla energy amplifier is missing!
I think the right term for it is "Controllable Uncontrolled Spontaneous action"

It is like driving a car thousand times heavy than your weight, but by using a little energy, you can able to drive it where ever you want it to go ok.

i just made use of aluminum for safety reason and make the spark be divert and hit it.

p.s. forest your a threat ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on October 01, 2010, 10:27:30 AM

Tito

is there an input voltage?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 01, 2010, 12:44:03 PM

Hmmm teets Im surprised from your statement that you lied to forest.

That kinda has us all sitting here wondering what is truth in your statements.

Not trying to be mean here, But lets say we were room mates in an apartment and I told you how I took 10 dollars from my last room mate from his wallet. Would you start distrusting me as a room mate? Would you hide your wallet from there on? Get it?

Forest does not deserve that, he just wants to heat his house because he is cold. I dont find threat in that.

Anyway, I hope you are not misleading us, otherwise there are a lot of people putting a lot of time money and effort, trying to do what you propose.

And thanks for answering my question. =] But can I trust that info? Really?

And to all

I am going to go back to my original LRC with the series diode regulator strips. I got a bit distracted by Neives circuit. Not that it is not a possibility, but I see better things in my first circuits. No zeners for now, unless I see a potential for them as I continue.

I was messing with parallel LRC last night, but input power, some of of it gets involved with the load directly, and Im not liking it so far.

My weekend is free so Ill be working on this with a vengence! ;\ =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 01, 2010, 09:25:55 PM

Welll.....................
Maybe Teets meant that forest was a "treat"?,

And maybe It was a little White lie?

Well, If you did tell forest a lie,I suppose you could make it "Right"!
Correct the false statement ?

"The truth will set you free"

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 02, 2010, 12:15:48 AM

I thought on Teet's last post today, as one part of it I posted before this.

The other parts were the answers to my question. Now granted, I had to take it to heart that Teets is being truthful in order to come up with any conclusions on his tips of component count.

The first was # 12 3 blanks 2 caps and 2 diodes Blanks? hmm Zeners? Coils, just not specified? Relays while using the coils built in? Ion receiver plates? why 3? Quarts crystals plated with platinum?

Maybe 3 pancakes 2 caps and 2 diodes on the side. Thats where I am with that at the moment. =]
The 3 blanks, does not fill the criteria of the question, so this answer is kinda bogus.

# 11 1 primary 2 extra coils 12 diodes computer fan and a lot of coils Yep sounds bulky, no caps, maybe we leave that for later. No real idea other than maybe a half wave operation of my first circuits diode strips.

I just dont see much there on that one. Not that it would not be important to know it, of the so many ways to get fe ;] But, I feel confident to say that the possibility that my diode strip circuits and such, brought Teets out for a "Its For The World" statement" in lieu of his contribution here. So I think some of what I have shown is close. I dont get the many coils, and I remember him saying it a while back. Would it be that you have a pulsating coil setup and receivers(many coils) that, stacking the coils "electrically" series parallel whatever, Stacked, and when placed around the Transmiter, the total out is more than in? This would be scalar, yes?
Still here, failure to give no. of the many coils fails the criteria of the question.

# 10 4 zeners, 5 electrolytic caps, 2 diodes, alternate switching tech, with improved spark gap tech. with lots of bulky transformer
The 4 zeners are interesting. Series or parallel. That he need not answer, as that would not be within the criteria of answering the question. ;] But I would venture to say that maybe in parallel, that even if the zener voltages tolerances were close, that the one that gets triggered first, would pull the voltage down as to not let the others switch on, due to their zener voltage was never reached due to the one pulling the voltage down when it turned on. Now, If he said also 4 resistors, then I could confidently say, yea, like an led with resistors on each, all will conduct at approximately the same time. Where 4 blue or white leds, at 4v drop, with only 1 resistor to limit their currents, and the leds are in parallel, only one should light, maybe 2. The first one on pulls down the voltage and the others get nothing. The one with the lowest on voltage(voltage drop) gets it all.

Series sounds more reasonable, to increase the zener voltage of the total in series. I would put my money on series unless they are used individually throughout the circuit.
Other than that, his answer had no component count on the bulky transformers. So , I cannot comment any further. Criteria of question was not met =]

#9 input is signal from atmosphere then amplified using 3 coils and 4
caps. its like a tpu.

Just 3 coils 4 caps ? No antenna? No Wire? No coil? No diodes? No controller box? We have a TPU champion here folks.
I cannot comment any further on this one other than maybe it can be built and run resistive or inductive loads that use these kind of energies.

And what Ram said, Im not feeling bad about what I stated to Teeto about forest. I was making a point of how what he said reflects on all here. It would have been better to pm Forest about it if he were really sorry I feel a bit distrustful at this time, a bit, and for good reason. But I am willing to go on from here and listen, but I am wary. Im not stupid.
Sorry Teets We reap what we sew. Hopefully there will be no more fibs in your posts Teets.
Its not nice to mislead. Many here, not all, consider you a leader of sorts, waiting maybe weeks to see if you have posted the things that you said you would. Hey I didnt say that you would, you did.

Thanks again for the answers. They are a mystery as usual. As I said that they might be when I asked the question. ;/ =] But any little bit helps, as long as it is true. ;) So be True Teets. Ya dont have to give anything, but if ya do, be fair. Deal?

Ok all for tonight

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 02, 2010, 12:30:10 AM

:) Lied? No its just about the relay actually. its nothing don't mind it.

Yeah forest is very very close or i believe he got it already.

his word is DAMN CLOSE! ;D

To all: i'm telling the truth, you can rely on those tips.

I have a question to all: up to now you didn't still get the circuit of tesla
amplifier? or you're just fooling me?. oh come on! :)

Don't you have an idea how to translate into circuit, the rolling stone ice?
This is actually the main resipee of any free energy.

In C language programming there is what you call a recursion technique wherein you call and execute a procedure or a function of itself. but in time it is running something is being done ok.;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 02, 2010, 12:37:24 AM

Are you saying that if we have a pulse circuit to slowly build a charge in a cap, like a camera flash circuit, litle buts of current at a time, that the input used over that time will be less than the output of the cap? Add extra coils? Rolling Stones, I like them, Shes my little rock and roll.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 02, 2010, 12:52:14 AM

in #9 experiment i forgot to include the antenna, and ofcoarse the controller box ok. sorry.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 02, 2010, 12:56:54 AM

:-X

sorry guys.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 02, 2010, 06:43:51 AM

guys,

I'm affected by you comments :'(
what I can tell.... I love you all ;D I'm not angry about Tito,I don't care if he lied or actually he tried to give a tip and used too much general words :P

I found interesting rotary relay :D:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlO8UDsc-Fc&feature=related

Listen carefully, looks like we all are awakening slowly.

and from Tito tips :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdUzpCgAhmA&feature=related

contemplate unidirectional energy transfer.If we power bulb directly from battery this won't be unidirectional because energy chemical would change.of courser during charging capacitor we makde a little change to the battery but this is initial cost.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 02, 2010, 09:10:55 AM

Forest
Quote:
Listen carefully, looks like we all are awakening slowly.
--------------------
I do believe you are correct!
But I think Teetsla will need a bigger alarm clock to wake us up!,maybe a "sledgeamatic"?

Frozen ice balls?
"crons"?
On an aluminum plate?

Sounds more like an entr'ee

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tenbatsu on October 02, 2010, 09:26:07 AM

Mags, for what it's worth I think you have made the right decision.

Your original design has the most promise, I wouldn't get side tracked until you have tested it further.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 02, 2010, 03:46:10 PM

Hey forest

The video of the guy charging and discharging the cap, do you see how that circuit, as a whole, gets 2 times as much energy out, as in?

I have seen this in one of my circuits, but I wasnt applying it properly.

This is very important that everyone, EVERYONE, pay attn here.

This circuit that I am going to show here, really puts out 2 times as much power than what is used from the source. This is no joke.. 2 TIMES What is that COP>2 ?

If you watched the video from Forest, the cap charge and discharged, HE IS POWERING A LOAD WHILE CHARGING THE CAP!!! THEN POWERS A LOAD WHILE DISCHARGING THE CAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 FOR 1 DEAL

Titos tips are way too complicated and missing so much, when we all just need a little, 1 cap 1 dpst switch(relay) and 2 diodes and a load, be it a transformer, motor, heater, or a light at higher freq to eliminate flicker.

We can AMPLIFY ENERGY now. We are using the energy twice! Some may have negative things to say, but I would really like to here from the ones that have a positive thing to say.

In the code circuit, just operate the switch with the mouse. The scopes show the input from source first and output resistor. We get to use the energy that charges the cap, and we get to use the energy that is in the cap.

Also notice the voltage on the cap as you continue to switch. This is sweet. I did a simple test with a motor and the motor seems to go just as long while charging the cap, as it does to discharge it.

Mags 2 for 1 sale starts today =]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 02, 2010, 04:05:56 PM

Here is and alternate by removing 1 diode and it gets more out of the discharge than the charge load usage.

In some loads you get oscillation and the charge of the cap can vary when flipping the switch, so the diodes help kill the oscilation for certain uses. But, other uses may be able to take advantage of the oscillation and get more power out.

Feel free to experiment. I believe this is a little bit of what everyone is looking for. ;]

Ill give forest credit for this and the young student that posted that vid. Do ya think that the kid knew what he had there???? hmmm maybe seem like such a general experiment that most may say, young amateur. But that kid just might be right out of the box, if you get my drift.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 02, 2010, 04:13:53 PM

Hi Magluvin,

Please answer this question:

Is the current taken from the battery more or is it the same when the load across the transformer secondary is connected or disconnected?

Because I think in case the load is disconnected from the secondary, the current taken from the voltage source on the left is less than in case it is connected.

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 02, 2010, 04:23:38 PM

Hey Gyula

well, lets say we flip the switch so that the cap is being charged through the load, if we let the cap fully charge, it has more voltage than the source, just like my precharge circuit, where the inductor pulls mor from the battery than the battery has potential for. During that time of charging, the load will affect the way the charge happens, whether it is resistive(slow charge), inductive(initial currents will be low) but in the end, the charge that is in the cap, got work done while being charged.
Now would you agree that the amount of energy in that cap comes close to being what the source usage was?
Its dang close, and we get to use that energy again to do the same amount of work, but the source only has to do half of it. Period. =]

Mags Im sweating. and its 75 deg in here. lol this is good very good.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 02, 2010, 04:35:21 PM

Well in that case I would agree but it should be tested with real components in practice, with well adjustable timing for the switch, not by simulations.

Normally the cap voltage comes close to a certain value of the voltage source (voltage is divided between the load and the capacitor, depending on the their impedance ratio) and during the resonant energy swingings, depending on the time constants, the voltage across the cap may approach to that of the source. Switch off timing is important.

Sorry but I cannot recall your precharge circuit, I do not closely follow this thread... When you have time could you point to it.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 02, 2010, 05:01:12 PM

Gyula

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.msg257252#msg257252

On the right, I could just charge the cap directly from the source and get source voltage in the cap, but ad the diode and inductor, we get inertia in the inductor that pulls more energy from the source to load the cap up to 2 times the source voltage. I am not saying that the extra is free. The diode just keeps the cap and coil from oscillating and cap gets charged

But in my new circuit, the load does not have to be a transformer. It can be a resistor for heat, it can be a motor, AC motor at that.

Try this. rig up a 12v battery a dpst switch a cap and 2 diodes, Charge the cap(what ever value) throught the load, the motor will turn for a bit. That is energy used by the motor from the source through the cap, and that will qualify as power from the source. Then we run the motor from just the caps charge, and the motor will run for the same amount of time. 2 for 1 Of course the motor will go in the other direction each flipping of the switch but you get the drift. Imagine the cap empty as a conductor, the source will only see the motor as a load at first, so full current possibilities get to the motor at first and start to lower as the cap is charged. Once the motor stops, the cap is at full charge. Try it And if we know caps, the cap discharge into the load can be more than from the source.

12v bat charge a cap with a resistor, it will take longer but the cap will get to source voltage.

It is very very easy to do and test

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 02, 2010, 05:08:48 PM

well,

I'd like to know what is happening when we charge a capacitor through the coil as in Tesla igniter patent ?
If capacitor is charged and become a gap in the circuit how coil BEHAVE ? Does it try to discharge desperately because sees open circuit ? I think not, I think capacitor has too much resistance I hope so.Then , does coil search for another path to collapse magnetic field ? well, what if this coils CAN MAKE a SPARK ? would such spark be loud and bright or RATHER SILENT and almost invisible ? would such spark ionize air in spark gap and allow to dump cap energy silently as unidirectional ARC.would that spark from coil be very fast to open and close gap for cap dump ? would cap remain charged to the same level (almost ) as previously. not sure, but maybe this is what Tito wanted us to know.maybe even that cap from all energy stored can discharge as Tesla mentioned : in intermittent way generating many kicks from one inductive kick, but then it would require very careful choosing of elements.

you are right Mags , we have 241 and that 2 is coil magnetic field.

yet remember this is not OU, this is what Tesla described : taking energy at the faster rate
something is still missing I think but we have found maybe the first step to solution Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 02, 2010, 05:22:08 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9irQJ6mivs&feature=related

I know that videos were posted previously but I like them ;D
still not sure how it works but I feel it is related to Tesla igniter patent
I think I should compare schematics

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 02, 2010, 05:22:30 PM

Hey forest

Maybe you are missing the point. This doesnt have anything to do with the coil or the transformer or inductance.

In the kids video, he is charging the cap through an led, of which there has to be a resistor so the led doesnt blow

But we can us a light bulb in place of that led, the same bulb he shows to discharge the cap.

If we replace the led with the light bulb to charge the cap, the light bulb will light, and the amount of light and time it lasts is a reflection of power used from the source. And when the bulb goes out, that cap contains the same amount of energy to light that bulb again.

Now, we use a transformer to take that 2 for 1 and we should be able to charge 2 batteries with 1.

Maybe I am explaining it wrong. I am going to work on this for the day and see what I can do to show it better.

What is so cool is it is not necessary to have high voltages and high freq and all that transmitting jazz, this is simple, simple, simple and I will have a project on the bench by the end of the day. I have all I need to put many variations together.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on October 02, 2010, 06:08:07 PM

I think TIito was refering to a shorter stronger burst of the capacitor discharge - energy magnification.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 02, 2010, 06:28:19 PM

Hi Magluvin,

Thanks for the link. My only respectful question is whether anybody built those simulations with real components and evaluated the results.

Here is another Spice based simulation on discharging a cap into another cap via different loads, please read this if you have not read it, I think the simulation is much more realistic:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209

However, I am aware of a patent which seems to double the runtime of a load from a battery... here it is: US 7085123 ( see a free pdf copy here: http://www.pat2pdf.org/ )

rgds, Gyula

Quote from: Magluvin on October 02, 2010, 05:01:12 PM
Gyula

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.msg257252#msg257252

On the right, I could just charge the cap directly from the source and get source voltage in the cap, but ad the diode and inductor, we get inertia in the inductor that pulls more energy from the source to load the cap up to 2 times the source voltage. I am not saying that the extra is free. The diode just keeps the cap and coil from oscillating and cap gets charged

But in my new circuit, the load does not have to be a transformer. It can be a resistor for heat, it can be a motor, AC motor at that.

Try this. rig up a 12v battery a dpst switch a cap and 2 diodes, Charge the cap(what ever value) throught the load, the motor will turn for a bit. That is energy used by the motor from the source through the cap, and that will qualify as power from the source. Then we run the motor from just the caps charge, and the motor will run for the same amount of time. 2 for 1 Of course the motor will go in the other direction each flipping of the switch but you get the drift. Imagine the cap empty as a conductor, the source will only see the motor as a load at first, so full current possibilities get to the motor at first and start to lower as the cap is charged. Once the motor stops, the cap is at full charge. Try it And if we know caps, the cap discharge into the load can be more than from the source.

12v bat charge a cap with a resistor, it will take longer but the cap will get to source voltage.

It is very very easy to do and test

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on October 03, 2010, 05:29:46 AM

I think...when you charge the capacitor over coil, then as capacitor begins charged the voltage on it will rise and then voltage on coil will fall, so on the load will also fall, thru it, the load will obtain only half energy which is needed to charge up the capacitor. And when you discharge it, the next half will be delivered to the load.
But if the load will have bigger resitance, then the colapsing magnetic field from coil charge up the capacitor instead to collapse to the load(if is pure resistance) then the spent energy is little recycled as capacitor again discharge>>oscilation.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 03, 2010, 07:29:13 AM

Quote from: IWD on October 03, 2010, 05:29:46 AM
I think...when you charge the capacitor over coil, then as capacitor begins charged the voltage on it will rise and then voltage on coil will fall, so on the load will also fall, thru it, the load will obtain only half energy which is needed to charge up the capacitor. And when you discharge it, the next half will be delivered to the load.
But if the load will have bigger resitance, then the colapsing magnetic field from coil charge up the capacitor instead to collapse to the load(if is pure resistance) then the spent energy is little recycled as capacitor again discharge>>oscilation.

I agree. There are two issues needed :

1. effective charging of capacitor,instantly recharging the missing little charge
2. very fast taking part of energy from capacitor using not much charge from it
3. by 2 we generate very big magnetic field very abruptly disconnected so collapse is very fast and produce high difference of voltage
4. we repeat 2 while capacitor is immediately recharged by magic method using coil (I'm not sure how it works but a few videos indicate it is possible, maybe if capacitor sees a different potentials between terminals it immediately charge?)
5 energy gain is in collapse of magnetic field abruptly cut
6. some says that that collapse should be doped with HV discharge as per kapanadze but I doubt it is something different, it's just another method to shake magnetic field which I do not understand yet

This is an effect like when arrow or proper length and elasticity knock in a wood shield with a loud "brrrm" sound due to oscillations of air. It happen not always but when speed and other parameters are correct and I suppose it happen when arrow speed is at max peak just before it knock in the wood...

there are probably all or most of the puzzles but not arranged yet into any working idea and still missing part is the output and all related
I may be mistaken ,surely I don't know how coil of self-induction works : does it recharge capacitor or rather allow for very short spike from capacitor so do not discharging it (Bearden idea of S-Flow and degenerate semiconductor) or maybe both ?

Tito, do you know which way coil work ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: iflewmyown on October 03, 2010, 11:45:46 AM

What I have done below is very dangerous. Do not do it my way unless you work with these DC voltages every day and KNOW what you are doing.!!!!!!

Mags,
I did replicate your circuit this morning. I used 1200V 165A diodes with line voltage (120vac) rectified to full wave DC and 250mfd total oil filled motor run capacitors and a 130 vdc 2 hp motor to test your circuit. I used these components to minimize the percentage of voltage drop across the diodes. When I close the switch to the line the motors spins a couple revolutions one way ( this way I have to pay for) then when I move the switch the other way the motor spins the opposite way ( this time for free? ). I tried for a long time to get the simulator to run a relay in parallel with the resistor but it never would. This would allow the switch to be automated. I will build this in the shop now. Thanks for all your hard work.
Garry

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 01:01:04 PM

Hey Iflew
Very cool. If you add a few switches to reverse the polarity(for the dc motor) of the cap, the motor will always go in the same direction. I had suggested an AC motor to make the switching as simple as the circuit shown. and if the relay can handle the current and operate around 60hz, we should be able to run the motor at half the power needed normally. Many modern motors run nearly 90%eff. So if we can do it correctly, we should be able to get well above 100% eff. I will not speculate from here till I test and know anything solid.

I experimented a bit yesterday, and I also see that the cap, transformer(or what ever load ) need a balance, as in cap not too small, etc. It seems to work better if the cap and load are matched. Like and LRC, some values give varying results.

I dug out my AC induction fan (from a microwave oven, just the cooling fan) for todays play.

Thanks for the info on your experiments, and please keep us updated Iflew. And be careful. =]

I also started an lrc setup of my first circuit. Im going low power, using diodes and other parts that are available locally as that anyone will be able to put it together at a reasonable cost and technical knowledge.

I know that some are looking more towards HV cap discharges and white spikes coming off of door knobs in the next room, but Energy Amplification can be in any amount, as long as we get more out than in.

Just as in your experiment above Iflew, you charged a cap, and once charged the energy in that cap is related to the voltage it holds. That voltage and charge capability, had to flow through the motor, to get that charge, and we got work done, Now we can get very close to the same work done from the cap alone, and start the cycle over. Simple, The reason I say "very close" is, we may get some variance due to the source being part of the circuit during our power from source cycle.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 01:06:03 PM

Oh Yeah Iflew? Can you show your circuit in the sim you had trouble with, maybe we can help. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 01:47:55 PM

Quote from: forest on October 03, 2010, 07:29:13 AM
I agree. There are two issues needed :

1. effective charging of capacitor,instantly recharging the missing little charge
2. very fast taking part of energy from capacitor using not much charge from it
3. by 2 we generate very big magnetic field very abruptly disconnected so collapse is very fast and produce high difference of voltage
4. we repeat 2 while capacitor is immediately recharged by magic method using coil (I'm not sure how it works but a few videos indicate it is possible, maybe if capacitor sees a different potentials between terminals it immediately charge?)
5 energy gain is in collapse of magnetic field abruptly cut
6. some says that that collapse should be doped with HV discharge as per kapanadze but I doubt it is something different, it's just another method to shake magnetic field which I do not understand yet

This is an effect like when arrow or proper length and elasticity knock in a wood shield with a loud "brrrm" sound due to oscillations of air. It happen not always but when speed and other parameters are correct and I suppose it happen when arrow speed is at max peak just before it knock in the wood...

there are probably all or most of the puzzles but not arranged yet into any working idea and still missing part is the output and all related
I may be mistaken ,surely I don't know how coil of self-induction works : does it recharge capacitor or rather allow for very short spike from capacitor so do not discharging it (Bearden idea of S-Flow and degenerate semiconductor) or maybe both ?

Tito, do you know which way coil work ?

Disruptive discharge can be tried by anyone, and I think you will see door knobs spark if done right.

For example, if you charge a cap of small farad to 50kv and discharge it into a large inductance, many turns and finer wire, the intial inrush wont happen as we need. But dump the cap into only a few turns of very stout wire, you will get a huge field pulse. Now if you have a secondary inside that coil, it will receive that pulse with a vengeance, whether it just produces a spark from end to end, or is controlled properly and stored for use.

In automotive, capacitive discharge ignition works the same, but not air core. The primary is stout, but the secondary is of large inductance. Maybe an MSD ignition system would be a good experimental device. But make your own coils. My suggestion would be to have a primary the same as what is in the coil recommended for the MSD module, and secondary can be the experiment, just be sure to have the secondary inside the primary, as this seems to be the common way, even in an ignition spark coil. =] The reason I say to use the same primary as the presrcibed coil, is that it is most likely matched to the MSD modules cap discharge.

This is all just ideas, so play at your own risk.

So the secret I imagine is getting that cap charged easily. The rest is just transformer.

Was thinking about my first circuit, and Im seeing that we can induce the LRC with a primary over the LRC coil and pulse the primary. But Im not there yet.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 03, 2010, 01:56:50 PM

Quote
So the secret I imagine is getting that cap charged easily. The rest is just transformer.

I agree.
I mean it is what Tito described (I believe) : how to convert one kick into many
but it's only part of secret

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 02:16:55 PM

Whether Tito hands over any solid info is but to be seen. I think that the references to Tesla and what he discovered, and the Ice Stone are needed to be found. I Have read a lot, but it seems tesla dicovered many things, which one?

Dont worry forest, I think we are beginning to pick up steam here and others are joining in, and many are watching.

Im not trying to go off on a tangent with new ideas, these things just pop in my head. So I tell as they are interesting.

Ok time for lunch and back to the bench.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 02:28:14 PM

Just a quip

What if in Teslas Peirce Arrow, 80hp ac induction motor, and a tiny cap across its leads, and give it kicks.
Would the LC oscillate? Would the AC motor run while oscillating?

If a pendulum looses distance with each swing, a tiny kick on each cycle, will enable the pen to increase in height.

That kick needs to happen when the pen reaches top of the climb and stops. The smallest amount of kick will add to the system.

Ok lunch.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pese on October 03, 2010, 02:45:56 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 02:28:14 PM
Just a quip

What if in Teslas Peirce Arrow, 80hp ac induction motor, and a tiny cap across its leads, and give it kicks.
Would the LC oscillate? Would the AC motor run while oscillating?

If a pendulum looses distance with each swing, a tiny kick on each cycle, will enable the pen to increase in height.

That kick needs to happen when the pen reaches top of the climb and stops. The smallest amount of kick will add to the system.

Ok lunch.

Mags

The LC(R), will not oscillate if no power will comes additionally
to fill up all power-losses !!

2.

If you will take out Power from
the LC resonating circuit ..
(equally over transorming coil or mechanical via motor rotation.
IT IS NECESSARY . To put (at minimum!) equivalent POWER as
INPUT to the Circuit device.

3.
ALSO TESLA have take an "extern" power in his "Pierce Arrow"
Car, even he have not explained the "working" of the 1,80mtr
Antenna , and not of the used Vacuum tubes.

Gustav Pese

www.alt-nrg.de/pppp

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: angryScientist on October 03, 2010, 03:05:57 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 02:28:14 PM
Just a quip

What if in Teslas Peirce Arrow, 80hp ac induction motor, and a tiny cap across its leads, and give it kicks.
Would the LC oscillate? Would the AC motor run while oscillating?

If a pendulum looses distance with each swing, a tiny kick on each cycle, will enable the pen to increase in height.

That kick needs to happen when the pen reaches top of the climb and stops. The smallest amount of kick will add to the system.

Ok lunch.

Mags

You can put a capacitor across a motor and it will oscillate, some what. It will make the motor more efficient. What it does is change the phase between the current and the voltage. It's a very common concept. It's known as "Power Factor Correction".

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 03:29:35 PM

I know that there needs to be supplemental energy to keep the motor running.

1 We cannot leave out the possibility that the motor was not modified.
We all should know that a bifilar coil creates a stronger field than a normal coil of the same wire and total length and resistance. If you wind a nail with 100 turns of 20 awg wire then another nail with 2 of the same wire, 50 turns each alternating eachother, total of 100 turns, put those 2 coils in series from opposite ends, each nail will read the same ohms. And will pull the same from the source. But the bifi will have a much stronger field. Try it. And what of trifi? Quadfi? Teets claims Trifi.
If we could take any motor that runs 90%eff(some are better ;]), and rewind it bifi or trifi, will we be over 100% eff if what I said above is true?

2 One of the stories of the few about that car, there was a single 12v battery in the car. Others there were not.
If it were in the car, lets say that the lights needed power, horn, box of 12 tubes and resistors under the dash?
Not to say that the battery was not replenished as needed by the system. Maybe it is the SPRING of his design, as to one of my circuits above that eventually no power comes from the source, but as the circuit continues working, the source SPRING is still necessary to allow the circuit to continue. Just speculating. =]

There are many ways we can go with this. But Tesla was all about efficiency, and beyond. If that car existed, you can guaranty that the AC motor was of his design, and maybe 1 of a kind. I lean toward bifi mods if I had to lay my Aces on the table. Lol I wonder if those rods pushed into the box were tuned for delay in the box, if they were iron. Or the C of the lrc.
remember what Teets said once, I use coil for coil, coil for capacitance, coil for resistor, well there is resistance in a coil and in the leads of which all need to be added as the whole to come up with the R in lrc. So an LC circuit could have a good R value without additional resistors. And The coil coild have a good C value if designed properly.

But hey, these are just my thoughts not my claims. Stuff to examine and work towards. Some new some old. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 03:41:27 PM

Thanks Angs

Lets say that we get a bit more out of the motor by skipping the input during a few oscillations and then kick it again. =] If the first few oscillations are of good qualities, we may be able to reduce the input by just as much. I believe that input should be timely to the oscillations polarity.

Iflew

1 thought. Once you get it going, the switching circuit that is, the value of the cap will need to be enough so that during on times of switching, you want the cap to be fully charged and fully discharged.

Smaller the cap, the shorter the switch time.

When you did your experiment above, the motor spins a few times. Does it seem like a descent start for that cap?
Like if it had a few more bursts really quick, does it seem as if it would come up to a good running speed?

Good luck =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pese on October 03, 2010, 03:46:13 PM

Tesla used the 12volt battery only
for the car-electric (lightning enz.)
possibly also need, for the electronic,
heating the tubes
(but there was type with 70volts filament
heating voltages !! Very mysteriosly!)

The car battery was not used for driving the
car motor or to use to charge power for the motor.

Pese

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 04:05:14 PM

Well Pese None of us can say anything for sure.

The antenna is interesting, as we have the length. Would that not correspond to the freq of operation in some way?
Could the story have been modified , by the "S" people, some where along the way and it should really be 1.93m ?
We cannot say at all for sure. I had seen on Rex website that they did a calculation on that, but I was not sure they went about that calculation properly. "s" people? lol Something just seemed misleading to me, i may be wrong.

From Tesla, what we have available are just the seeds, his later work that we dont have are the icing on the seed cake.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 03, 2010, 09:56:37 PM

Wow everyone. GREAT JOB! ;D

I'm very happy for what is happening here in this thread though i'm not receiving anything.

I hope in my own little way of disgusted answers help you little awake in my simple discovery.

To everyone that i made you feel bad, so soooooory ok. :)

i missed one person here = panos matragas (a.k.a.) bart#$%@#^ your absent! ;D

To what i had read , i can say that you can now stand half of your foot guys and i'm very proud of that. :D

I'm sorry guys but i have to leave you now in the road. :(

Mags, Forest, chet are already there to guide you ok. your really a good guys bro. salute you. ;)

Sir wattsup and sir pese thanks for the very good post where i learned a lot ok. :)

Tesla used battery just for a stable source, and as what i always say is , just to minimize or save some modules.

Forest : Tito, do you know which way coil work ?
answer : why our fingers do not same in size but when they do the job, they work perfectly. :D

A lot of people trying to see me looking any info in me, hahahaha, i'm not stupid to do that ok. i'm not just just hahaha ;D

P.S. I am now concentrating in my singing career, cause i see some free
energy in my throat, hahaha ;D

Anyway GOD BLESS all of you my brother.

THE BEST EVER TIP I COULD GIVE TO ALL OF YOU
Here is what i want you to do if you really care for everyone.
Accept JESUS CHRIST as your personal savior and if you want to go further then read the BIBLE and always try to watch Charles Stanley's preaching.

Real repentance is the key to salvation of our soul. :)

TILL THEN: Merry Christmass! love you all! ;D

Asta la Vista bro!
Tito L. Oracion ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 11:21:17 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 03, 2010, 09:56:37 PM
Wow everyone. GREAT JOB! ;D

I'm very happy for what is happening here in this thread though i'm not receiving anything.

I hope in my own little way of disgusted answers help you little awake in my simple discovery.

To everyone that i made you feel bad, so soooooory ok. :)

i missed one person here = panos matragas (a.k.a.) bart#$%@#^ your absent! ;D

To what i had read , i can say that you can now stand half of your foot guys and i'm very proud of that. :D

I'm sorry guys but i have to leave you now in the road. :(

Mags, Forest, chet are already there to guide you ok. your really a good guys bro. salute you. ;)

Sir wattsup and sir pese thanks for the very good post where i learned a lot ok. :)

Tesla used battery just for a stable source, and as what i always say is , just to minimize or save some modules.

Forest : Tito, do you know which way coil work ?
answer : why our fingers do not same in size but when they do the job, they work perfectly. :D

A lot of people trying to see me looking any info in me, hahahaha, i'm not stupid to do that ok. i'm not just just hahaha ;D

P.S. I am now concentrating in my singing career, cause i see some free
energy in my throat, hahaha ;D

Anyway GOD BLESS all of you my brother.

THE BEST EVER TIP I COULD GIVE TO ALL OF YOU
Here is what i want you to do if you really care for everyone.
Accept JESUS CHRIST as your personal savior and if you want to go further then read the BIBLE and always try to watch Charles Stanley's preaching.

Real repentance is the key to salvation of our soul. :)

TILL THEN: Merry Christmass! love you all! ;D

Asta la Vista bro!
Tito L. Oracion ;D

Well Teets, I have seen you say you will go away a few times, but ya keep coming back. ;]

I think what we have here as a whole has a lot of experimental value. I am getting my rotor, that I usually use, as a voltage source for my cap discharge.. In one of my YT vids, I charged a cap well above 100v very easily with a spin of the wheel. I chose this method for my own reasons and I get that voltage charge easily that way. Caveman Special =] Now I have found a device that is called a "voltage switch". SIDAC. You pick the voltage that you want it to come on and she does until the voltage is lower. I found out about it in and old, April 1999 Popular electronics mag in an article on how to produce high voltage easily. A very interesting device, of which I think the zener could work also, not sure. Im checking them out now.

I would print the article but I dont have permission

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 03, 2010, 11:34:51 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 11:21:17 PM
Well Teets, I have seen you say you will go away a few times, but ya keep coming back. ;]

I think what we have here as a whole has a lot of experimental value. I am getting my rotor, that I usually use, as a voltage source for my cap discharge.. In one of my YT vids, I charged a cap well above 100v very easily with a spin of the wheel. I chose this method for my own reasons and I get that voltage charge easily that way. Caveman Special =] Now I have found a device that is called a "voltage switch". SIDAC. You pick the voltage that you want it to come on and she does until the voltage is lower. I found out about it in and old, April 1999 Popular electronics mag in an article on how to produce high voltage easily. A very interesting device, of which I think the zener could work also, not sure. Im checking them out now.

I would print the article but I dont have permission

Mags

No! don't worry the floor is now yours. its final! ;D

i will just go back here if i will ask something maybe.

p.s. Cause i'ved even smell someone wants me outta here. but its okay ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 11:37:52 PM

These Sidacs are just diodes of another breed, here are some specs of 2 from 1 company

# K150:

* Breakover voltage VBO: 140V (minimum) and 170V (maximum)
* Breakover current IBO: 10uA (maximum)
* Blocking voltage VDRM: 115V (minimum)
* Peak off-state current IDRM: 5uA (maximum)
* Continuous on-state DC or RMS current IT: 1.0A (maximum)
* Holding current IH: 100mA (maximum)
* Peak on-state voltage VTM: 1.5V (maximum)

# K200:

* Breakover voltage: 190V (minimum) and 215V (maximum)
* Breakover current: 10uA (maximum)
* Blocking voltage: 150V (minimum)
* Peak off-state current: 5uA (maximum)
* Continuous on-state DC or RMS current: 1.0A (maximum)
* Holding current: 100mA (maximum)
* Peak on-state voltage: 1.5V (maximum)

Not sure I get all of that but this is whatthey said. Will look more.

These are a silent spark gap if I have seen any. ;]
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 11:46:58 PM

Hey Teets

Even I await your posts in good hopes. Its just , well hard on our end. I know you want me to work for it. We are.
I feel that you dont like it when we get close. Thats just my feeling. thats when you say the goodbyes, but you will always be there. ;]
Those goodbyes are the biggest clues of all. Baahahahahahaa lol

Stick around. Its your thread. If I make comment, I am not untrue. If you want to be a bigger part of it, then be here. I like ya and many others do.

So we continue on. We will succeed. Its all here I believe, all here that we can get at least 1 job or idea working.
This is good stuff and Im here for the ride.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 11:59:43 PM

Listen Teets
Its your thread. Its been a lil drab for a bit. 2 weeks ago we had 13200 reads, it is now 21000+

What do ya say? we are going to get it, and in more than 1 way very soon. Be a man and be a part of something that is good and real. Do you see me holding back? You may not like it but it is happening.

I used to have thoughts of if I came up with my own solution that i could make money at it. That will never happen or be short lived. Everyone should know this so they can do it in an easy and safe manor, for themselves or their neighbors and end this mess we are all in. From now on I spit it. And mostly in hopes that many will receive it before it gets lost, if its worth anything at all.
See ya around Teets ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 04, 2010, 12:01:48 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 03, 2010, 11:46:58 PM
Hey Teets

Even I await your posts in good hopes. Its just , well hard on our end. I know you want me to work for it. We are.
I feel that you dont like it when we get close. Thats just my feeling. thats when you say the goodbyes, but you will always be there. ;]
Those goodbyes are the biggest clues of all. Baahahahahahaa lol

Stick around. Its your thread. If I make comment, I am not untrue. If you want to be a bigger part of it, then be here. I like ya and many others do.

So we continue on. We will succeed. Its all here I believe, all here that we can get at least 1 job or idea working.
This is good stuff and Im here for the ride.

Mags

Everything is already there, i have nothing more to say.

i enjoy a lot of you there guys.

using a very simple 555chip makes this tpu a smooth and safe. ofcourse with our amplifier added.

one thing more i used 78XX sometimes as amplifier also. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 12:08:15 AM

Very cool and thanks. ;]

See, we will have 23000 post reads by this time tomorrow.

In your opinion, or experience, tpu can run more than just a bunch of light bulbs, or motors also? Just wondering if the motor would affect it differently than the light bulbs.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 12:18:30 AM

Or maybe you will sing for us today.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 04, 2010, 12:22:54 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 12:08:15 AM
Very cool and thanks. ;]

See, we will have 23000 post reads by this time tomorrow.

In your opinion, or experience, tpu can run more than just a bunch of light bulbs, or motors also? Just wondering if the motor would affect it differently than the light bulbs.

Mags

Well, a tpu is just a transformer and if you violated its watts capacity then ofcourse it gets hot.

78xx is really a good source of current. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 04, 2010, 12:25:08 AM

Can someone run a simulation on this circuit. I know didly squat about simulation programs. I would be very curious to learn of what a simulation would show.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 04, 2010, 12:27:36 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 12:18:30 AM
Or maybe you will sing for us today.

Mags

hahahahaha ;D

oh ya i'll do that someday i'll make another thread for singing.

i think stephan must include an option for singers here, so that some will just watch for singers as they are waiting for answer or relax for a while. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 12:33:55 AM

Hey Watts

I will give it a shot. Any values on them parts? Also, it looks to be a switch and a push button to the right of the battery?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 12:34:53 AM

Singing with the Stars Tito Montana

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 04, 2010, 12:40:52 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 12:34:53 AM
Singing with the Stars Tito Montana

mags

;D

bye ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 04, 2010, 04:34:28 AM

Some interesting variations about Tesla ignition patents based on wattsup schematic
A lot of kicks :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 12:45:21 PM

hey Forest

Nice job on the circuit. I changed the scopes to show input vs output. The first scope is of the source and the other is of the output resistor. It seems very clear and simple that there is more out than in. But, if the output pulse is 160th the time on, then it is very close to equal to input, due to the input is continuous.
I also did a bit of change on the freq of the pulse.
Will look at it when I get home from work. Im on lunch Salami and mustard samich mmmmm

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 01:08:03 PM

Hey forgot to upload the code

The first is of forests circuit modified a bit as told above.

The second is of how the igniter circuit is done. Remember the switch is in series with the primary and the cap, so when the cap gets charged by the inductor, the switch shorts the cap to the primary. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on October 04, 2010, 06:37:20 PM

Isn't this energy amplification!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGNgcRwKW4Q&a=GxdCwVVULXf3iAOTOoF3tEPyvwMN61e6&list=ML&playnext=1

and the acoustic version...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGNgcRwKW4Q&a=GxdCwVVULXf3iAOTOoF3tEPyvwMN61e6&list=ML&playnext=1

Sorry I a fan but if this is possible then so is OU 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 06:45:40 PM

Man that guy got some hairy arms, but not a sprig on his head. lol

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 07:46:10 PM

Sorry forest

Your circuit does the same function as the igniter.. It was different in config but the same. Just realized it.
Good go forest.

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 08:35:09 PM

Well I looked at it a bit more, and there is a difference. The difference is that the primary is involved in series with the switch as the large inductor is charging, where as yours is not. But it might not be a bad way to go either way.
It is possible that having the primary involved with charging the large inductor, may prepare the primary for discharge by having some of an opposite polarity before the switch is closed. Dunno yet. Is Teslas way better?
I will try some things to see what haps.

This is an interesting variation. Actually I looked back at the Popular Electronics article and it is the same as you show, using the SIDAC as the switch. I am experimenting tonight with some zeners as the switch. i think they might work as they do in the sim, not great for this application. Will find out. I tried to put 2 zeners in series to make a SIDAC, but Im not sure yet if it is the same.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 04, 2010, 08:37:03 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 12:33:55 AM
Hey Watts
I will give it a shot. Any values on them parts? Also, it looks to be a switch and a push button to the right of the battery?
Mags

@Magluvin

To the right of the battery is just a master switch. The real magic is happening when that center one turns on and off. The top left coil should have a high inductance. The coil to the right of it is a primary of low inductance feeding the secondary. Both this primary and secondary are considered the "working circuit" part of Tesla's Ozone Patent. The capacitor should be around 47mf.

This simple Tesla circuit employs damped DC pulses and the return to source is incredible. This provides the 2 for 1 bang. This is the only circuit I have tried that has actually given me some serious shocks so if anyone tries it, be careful.

When you do your simulation like this, is there a way that you can save it and export it as an animated gif so you can put it on this thread while still having the animation working.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 10:14:23 PM

Sometimes I see a circuit that is just oriented differently, and it takes me some time to say hey, thats the same circuit. Your right Forest, the igniter and ozone are very similar. There is that difference that I described just a bit ago.

Actually I did not see Watts circuit as the same at all till now. I assumed that the 2 coils inline as the primary, well I thought it was all primary from left to right with a center tap. lol I would not have assumed that the coil on the left was a large inductance compared to the right.

Either way, Forests circuit is what you are looking for. As to whether the Igniter will produce the same exact result is yet to be seen, but they have all the same ingredients and functions, all with the exception of the position of the cap and switch. If the switch is across the large inductor/source directly, it is Ozone. Now change positions in the circuit, the cap and switch, to where you have the cap across the large inductor/source, and you have the Igniter circuit. Hmmm when ever I looked at the ozone pat, I couldnt get a grip on it. But if this is it, they are very close to being the same. The igniter was simpler to recognize the functions within the circuit.

I have a screen capture prog that i can try to make a lil vid, and if it is small enough, Ill post it. 300kb, aint much.
If I squeeze the components and move it close to a stacked scope shot, Ill try to fit it if all works well.

I will try to do a circuit with your 47mf (is that micro farad, or milli farad?) and see what can be had.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 10:58:45 PM

Ok made a small vid, It is very short to qualify for upload. Hopefully it replays faster on post than in jet audio

Lets see

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 11:00:07 PM

Hmm not the way I planned it.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 05, 2010, 02:37:26 AM

Quote from: stprue on October 04, 2010, 06:37:20 PM
Isn't this energy amplification!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGNgcRwKW4Q&a=GxdCwVVULXf3iAOTOoF3tEPyvwMN61e6&list=ML&playnext=1

and the acoustic version...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGNgcRwKW4Q&a=GxdCwVVULXf3iAOTOoF3tEPyvwMN61e6&list=ML&playnext=1

Sorry I a fan but if this is possible then so is OU 8)

this is OU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo3AuZZzz84

keep lips :-)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 05, 2010, 02:38:04 AM

keep lips ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 05, 2010, 03:37:33 AM

I'm not sure how to understand coil polarization during disconnection. Assume we have charged coil from DC source of high current then we disconnect + from battery to coil and coil energy collapse. We know that coil tries to maintain current flow and become a source. What is the polarity of coil-source then ? Is that the same a battery so we have + on disconnected coil end and - on the other ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 05, 2010, 05:38:09 AM

Quote from: forest on October 05, 2010, 03:37:33 AM
I'm not sure how to understand coil polarization during disconnection. Assume we have charged coil from DC source of high current then we disconnect + from battery to coil and coil energy collapse. We know that coil tries to maintain current flow and become a source. What is the polarity of coil-source then ? Is that the same a battery so we have + on disconnected coil end and - on the other ?

hi,

I think you have to consider voltage across the coil and current in the coil.

Voltage polarity flips across the coil after the moment of switching off the battery voltage.

Current polarity does not change, only it starts decreasing from its earlier value towards zero, depending on the load across the coil.
IF there is no load and the coil is left on its own, the energy in the coil starts swinging as in a LC tank circuit (the C is the coil's self capacitance) until losses dissipate all energy.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 05, 2010, 08:38:33 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on October 05, 2010, 05:38:09 AM
hi,

I think you have to consider voltage across the coil and current in the coil.

Voltage polarity flips across the coil after the moment of switching off the battery voltage.

Current polarity does not change, only it starts decreasing from its earlier value towards zero, depending on the load across the coil.
IF there is no load and the coil is left on its own, the energy in the coil starts swinging as in a LC tank circuit (the C is the coil's self capacitance) until losses dissipate all energy.

Gyula

Thank you.
I'm not sure if I understood but if I connect coil to DC battery, charge it with current then disconnect coil squeeze trapped electrons and become source of voltage in opposite orientation then battery yet electrons flow in the same direction but slowing due to difference in potential across coils ?
Then if we immediately connect coil back to source battery what would happen ?

Could it be that coil having higher voltage then battery would recharge battery back (minus some lost energy during disconnection time ) ? Maybe we should place a diode which will redirect trapped electrons from - side of coil back to - terminal of battery ? Hmm ..or from + side of coil ? Anyway we really do not need those electrons, let them return back to source.

I'm wondering if Tito would be so nice to help here.We have two choices:
1. Somehow return back electrons from coil to the source battery
2. Let them stuck inside coil so the next time coil is shorted it won't take much of them from battery

hmm..Tito place your bet ... :P 1 or 2

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 05, 2010, 08:56:03 AM

I don't know if we can trust in circuit simulation programs. :-[

Check this simple circuit. It shows that when coil is disconnected it become the source of energy and electrons try to escape from it.If we place zener diode it sees higher voltage then a battery source and open.
IMHO it should be just a spike coming from coil to the battery but simulation shows that zener diode is open for a long long time and remain open at then end of current flow.Simulation also shows that curren flow still from battery through the open zener diode to the coil and not from coil.That's strange indedd if coil is a source of higher voltage then battery.
Personally I would throw away simulations >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 05, 2010, 08:56:56 AM

Ok,simulation code

$ 1 5.0E-6 119.19350207351468 52 5.0 50
v 432 528 432 256 0 0 40.0 12.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
S 592 256 592 176 0 1 false 0
l 592 336 592 528 0 3.0 5.000000095818947E-6
w 592 576 592 528 0
w 432 576 432 528 0
w 592 576 432 576 0
w 432 256 432 176 0
w 432 176 576 176 0
w 592 256 592 336 0
z 592 256 432 256 1 1.0 14.0
o 2 128 0 35 0.3125 9.765625E-5 0 -1
o 0 64 0 35 20.0 9.765625E-5 1 -1
o 9 64 0 35 20.0 9.765625E-5 2 -1

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on October 05, 2010, 09:14:24 AM

I told you that a long time ago those simulators made me think I had OU.

I lost it when a virus that attacked the win32 executables hit my machine and rendered it useless for a long time.

I will try to install it again and use it just to see if the parts go well one with the others.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 05, 2010, 09:32:47 AM

Tito, please help a bit with tip :-*. Would ordinary car relay in self-oscillating mode can work in ozone patent (just a tiny bit of it so we could see it works the way we are searching for) ? or we should start to whirl ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pese on October 05, 2010, 10:02:07 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 04, 2010, 08:35:09 PM
This is an interesting variation. Actually I looked back at the Popular Electronics article and it is the same as you show, using the SIDAC as the switch. I am experimenting tonight with some zeners as the switch. i think they might work as they do in the sim, not great for this application. Will find out. I tried to put 2 zeners in series to make a SIDAC, but Im not sure yet if it is the same.

Mags

An SIDAC (I worked with them 25years ago)
are workink like Trigger diodes ( ER900 ans so on)

Voltages can go up to an "know" value
and break than down to (near) ZERO Volt,
can be handeld up to several amperes .
(as an switch)
That was an Invention, to replace
SCR (Thyrsistors) and Triac (bilateral Thyristors)

This was vey unusual , i dont know only one
electronic engineer tha have worked with them

If you will replace this , (for working in same ways). you will
try to use Znerdiode AND one SCR .

Pese !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 05, 2010, 12:53:37 PM

Quote from: forest on October 05, 2010, 08:38:33 AM
Thank you.
I'm not sure if I understood but if I connect coil to DC battery, charge it with current then disconnect coil squeeze trapped electrons and become source of voltage in opposite orientation then battery yet electrons flow in the same direction but slowing due to difference in potential across coils ?

Well, yes the potential difference will work against the original current because the resultant potential is still in opposite direction wrt the earlier battery polarity so the current gradually decreases. If you do not have load across the coil, then all the big spike (after current switch-off) charges up the coil's self and stray capacitance and the very moment all the potential went into the capacitor, current in the coil becomes zero: a normal LC tank circuit behavior and the stored energy starts swinging.
If you have a load across the coil then the spike drives current through that load.

Quote
Then if we immediately connect coil back to source battery what would happen ?

Because the voltage polarity across the coil is opposite to that of the battery, you cannot connect it back directly again, because the difference would still be with opposite polarity. IF you had two parallel guided wires in the coil, insulated from each other, i.e. a bifilar coil, or a 1:1 transformer if you like, then you could make the second coil (which is in the same collapsing field) completely battery-pole independent so that the ends of the second coil could be connected back to the battery in the correct polarity via a diode.

Quote
Could it be that coil having higher voltage then battery would recharge battery back (minus some lost energy during disconnection time ) ? Maybe we should place a diode which will redirect trapped electrons from - side of coil back to - terminal of battery ? Hmm ..or from + side of coil ? Anyway we really do not need those electrons, let them return back to source.

If you want to return them back, why would you launch them out at all? What benefit would electron moving give you? Bearden always says: do not brake the dipole (here the battery), use only the potential...

Quote
I'm wondering if Tito would be so nice to help here.We have two choices:
1. Somehow return back electrons from coil to the source battery
2. Let them stuck inside coil so the next time coil is shorted it won't take much of them from battery

hmm..Tito place your bet ... :P 1 or 2

I think none of them... What Tito may have been using is charging up capacitors gradually to a higher and higher potential from one or more collapsing flux field(s) and then comes his secret... how to utilize the high potential. If he is correct and does not talk big, that is.

Gyula

EDIT: DO NOT trust circuit simulators, always consider the results with suspicion!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 05, 2010, 12:58:28 PM

Quote from: forest on October 05, 2010, 03:37:33 AM
I'm not sure how to understand coil polarization during disconnection. Assume we have charged coil from DC source of high current then we disconnect + from battery to coil and coil energy collapse. We know that coil tries to maintain current flow and become a source. What is the polarity of coil-source then ? Is that the same a battery so we have + on disconnected coil end and - on the other ?

Forest

the coils can produce BEMF, but first it will need to produce a continued emf. When we collect BEMF,Reverse, it is a product of when you disconnect the coil from power, the coil will oscillate a bit on its own, due to internal inductance and capacitance. If the continued emf is not able to continue out of the coil(when disconnected) then it will change polarity and try to go the opposite way. And if it cant go that way either, then it just dies quickly. I posted this here earlier, that the continued flow of emf is probably stronger than if left to reverse(bemf) because with each oscillating phase within the coil, it is dieing quickly..

The continued forward emf is what gets my earlier precharge circuit to nearly double the voltage into the cap from the source. Using a diode to not let the caps charge get away, once the coil gets energized, and the cap reaches the source voltage, the coil is not done yet, Inertia within the coil will pull more from the source than its potential. Inductance is in opposition to current change. Once current really begins to flow in the coil, if you take the source current away, the coil is in opposition to that change and wants to let it continue to flow.
So if you Kick the coil, the current flows as if you kicked a ball and it continues to want to roll. And will stop eventually due to resistances.

Here is code that shows the 2 differences in bemf and the femf I am speaking of. And the sim is working properly for these functions. It is a very simple project to try. You can even place a cap inline with the diode on the circuit on the left and the cap will charge from femf.
I believe the bemf is a step lower in power capabilities than the first wave of femf inertial flow.

In the first circuit on the left, charge up the coil then let loose and watch the current flow. In the 2nd circuit, charge the coil, and as you charge the coil, the cap will be charged close to source also due to the diode polarity, but when released, the femf has nowhere to go. So when it reaches its end of that coil self oscillation phase, it goes the other way and sends charge to the cap though the diode and we get more volts than source.
Once the coil has a path for the charge to go, if the receiver takes it all and doesnt give any back, the coil will be at rest and will need recharge from the source.

Mags

$ 1 5.0E-6 10.20027730826997 48 5.0 43
s 464 192 528 192 0 1 true
l 464 192 464 464 0 1.0 0.0
v 528 464 528 192 0 0 40.0 20.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
r 464 464 528 464 0 0.01
w 464 192 400 192 0
w 464 464 400 464 0
d 400 464 400 192 1 0.805904783
v 736 464 736 192 0 0 40.0 20.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
s 672 192 736 192 0 1 true
r 736 464 672 464 0 0.01
l 672 464 672 192 0 1.0 4.0810760304617655E-16
d 672 192 624 192 1 0.805904783
w 672 464 624 464 0
c 624 464 624 192 0 1.0E-5 9.999997757257145E-4

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on October 05, 2010, 01:02:21 PM

My personal opinion is that @tito does not give any good advice because he does not know it himself and he is waiting for one of you to find the answer and post it asking him if that was what he was doing and he will say, that its exactly what I was doing.

Remember I could be wrong though.

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on October 05, 2010, 02:55:00 PM

That is classic phenomenom that people belive in free energy so much, that adapt fact to the teory, instead making teory from fact.
And fact is, tilo just say : hey, I have free energy and you dont, but it is sooo easy hahaha, and I will not tell you. Fact is, he do not show anything. Fact is, there is no reason to believe.
So he is actualy joining to a huge community on the internet, which create bigger fog around free energy, that is fact.
But this is public forum, where anybody can write, thanks for that, but we must keep in mind it. His word maby inspire someone. but directly lead nowhere, as we are seen many times. More people are confused instead inspired.And author enjoy it, so why not.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on October 05, 2010, 07:40:00 PM

Quote from: forest on October 02, 2010, 05:22:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9irQJ6mivs&feature=related

I know that videos were posted previously but I like them ;D
still not sure how it works but I feel it is related to Tesla igniter patent
I think I should compare schematics

Sorry to bring this back up but how small of a scale can this process work? How much usable energy can we get or does it depend on how fast we hit the switch ie short the wires together ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 05, 2010, 09:32:39 PM

I have seen the vids this guy did a while back. In the one vid with the spark gap. He describes that the battery does not have enough energy to get the gap to spark but the cap does. Sounds and looks logical. But if the primary of that transformer were about 10% of the turns as what it has, the batteries would work and HAVE enough power to make the gap spark. His definition of power seems off. But he does have some interesting vids and some very basic ways of showing the ideas.

The first vid seems as if he is doing my precharge circuit without a diode and getting more than double voltage, where I have not gotten more than double in sim or on the bench with the diode in this config. Tesla, his rotary switches were his diodes. Timing. This guy had timing with his slap of an alligator clip. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 06, 2010, 12:06:57 AM

Sterling put up a YT vid of mine , actually the first vid i made for YT when I was working on the Whipmag, to experiment with the Anti Gearwise function.
Hatem Magnetic Cogging Device at Peswiki The guy told sterling that I have demonstrated a few possible ou prototypes on YT.. Well I hope he lets me know which ones. lol

They used my vid in the article as a demo of this guys concept. I have to check what he is all about. At first glance, I have doubts. But hey, flywheels are coils. They both have an opposition to change. Bedini and the mechanical coil. Like Teets, coil for coil, coil for resistor, coil for capacitor, coil for flywheel. =] Not saying that this guy intended on flywheel function, alone.

My setup is almost there, should be having some vids shortly, as in tomorrow or so.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 06, 2010, 10:21:51 AM

Mags
Geesh ,your famous!!

Or is it Infamous?

Will you still remember us when You get to the "Big show"?
Thanks for all your doing Bud!

They say 3rd times a charm,
You have a lot of "charms "in the bank!

@Teets
Why can't you answer "Tarzans" question?
Quote:

Tito, please help a bit with tip . Would ordinary car relay in self-oscillating mode can work in ozone patent (just a tiny bit of it so we could see it works the way we are searching for) ? or we should start to whirl ?
-----------------------
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 06, 2010, 12:35:08 PM

Na not famous. It nice to have a bit of recognition though.

Maybe some of my stuff is better than what I have shown. Maybe they just need proper refinement.

at Lunch

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on October 06, 2010, 07:08:02 PM

This is Kapanadzes energy amplification using Don L Smith and Tesla work.
Is there anyone here that can add the exact or best part values?

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 09, 2010, 11:34:56 PM

hi good day ladies and gentlmen ;D

oh boy i'm again disappointed with this thread. :(

I thought you could already stand in your half foot. GUSSSSSH!!

Ok here it is: YOU CAN ACTUALLY DICTATE WHICH WAY YOU GO OK: is that ok forest? that is the sense of controll
i am saying ok!

We can use a simple relay in ozone patent as a vibrator setup.
But computer fan is much better in heavy duty use.

@ IWD and nieves i understand you guys but always be positive cause negative energy is just useful for me in battery ;D

What i'm telling is that I HAVE ALREADY DISCOVER THE AMPLIFICATION WHAT TESLA IS SAYING AND I'M TRUTH FOR THAT AND NO JOKE THAT IS THE ROLLING STONE ICE OR THE FALLING DOMINO.

AND IT IS FOR SALE FOR JUST $10M USD SORRY.

BUT I'M AFRAID TO SELL IT CAUSE THERE IS DANGER IN MY SIDE ;D

conflict!!!!!

==============================================

i admit here that the information for one version of amplification that tesla is saying is already here but the other one: the rolling stone ice is not here still.

i cannot respond always cause i'm just renting a computer. i'm out of money ;D

==================================================================

class please stop murmoring cause it cannot help just do it there is always a better way ok.

what do i get here ok. none!, i will stop now, i'm already giving the best and closest clue ok.

oh boy i feel mad again! >:(

mags, i think you have to post again the MAD TEETSLA. ;D

==============================================
You know what?
if you you cannot tell something good that make me give more tips please don't say negative ok cause that makes my lips again in a very close tight again! like this :-X

Because of that i will not anymore go back here anymore!!!!!

i think you need to combine son and a gun. >:(

SOMETIMES WHEN I SAY 2 OR THREE COMPONENT MEANS I'M USING THEM FOR CAPACITY ENDURANCE OK.

Don't you see a very very big gain in ignition patent? that is just a common sense and a logic to use that free energy really exist ok! ;) and that problem is just very simple but very hard for those who are not using their brain! sorry!. sir wattsup said turkey brain ;D

GOODBYE !!!!!!!! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on October 10, 2010, 02:15:18 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 09, 2010, 11:34:56 PM
AND IT IS FOR SALE FOR JUST $10M USD SORRY.

It's a lot of money. And it is probably worth of this sum if it works as you say; I have no reason to not believe you. But, just be realistic: who can afford this? It is much smarter to sign a contract with a manufacturer to earn a percentage per piece manufactured, or so. This is an advice which experts give to inventors.
You can find good info on this matter as well as on protection ways, just googling it, perhaps this site has such info. But I think, disclosing your invention on an open source like this one, is also an option and this way does not prohibits you from your ownership, especialy when you clearly state that your intention is to sell your idea.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 10, 2010, 06:18:36 AM

Sir Tito,

Your tips are GOLD and SILVER ! I salute you. :)

Don't be disappointed please. Knowing something and building something are two different things.
And yes...we are lazy ;D, but you should know that it's hard to make rotating circuit controller from scrap parts - need a lot of imagination. I cannot for example resolve a way to glue magnets to CD-ROM disc to sustain 3000rpm from my very old Sony CD. It has a small DC motor (one of the first CD-ROM players on the market, newer have 3-phase AC motors), but this motor is so small that I dare not to disassemble it so I don't know how it is made (I heard that so fast DC motors have not commutator :'( )

Be patient - we are taught to close circuit in the way that is killing the dipole that's the source of problems.

To re assume :
1. Capacitor does not store charge in the way we think of it (not electrons!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckpQW9sdUg

2. To not killing the dipole we have to discharge capacitor separately , when not connected to the source.

can we charge capacitor the same way ? ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_f1p6V1Gb8&feature=related

is that a "hands kick method" ? ;D what is a magic inside this motor ?

Kapanadze he has nice green box , I guess it has be made from aluminium and painted green
he is killing the dipole but I saw one video when one guy was kicked by a switch ;D

well I still have many problems with coil and capacitor orientation and how to place cables around them ::)

my starting point is here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9irQJ6mivs&feature=related
it is similar to igniter and ozone patent
I must find a way to accumulate more kicks in this video circuit because disconnecting capacitor every way after one kick makes to small gain, I think from your last tip that DC motor can do it fine :-*
can we divide circuit into parts , like 2 for example , to analyse separately ? ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 10, 2010, 09:22:34 AM

Sir Forest,

Very nice movies!
Can you explain what kind of magnets you want to "glue"?And how you want them glued[polarity and such]?
Will RPM be specific to a Timing?[frequency]

Can they be mechanically attached [ nylon screws and glue]

Very nice movies !

Tito used to give us movies too!!,but I can see where you are going with yours!

And of course, the Now famous Mags [big shot "wiki" guy] always makes his own movies![good ones].

Chet

PS
Sir Tito
Hopefully good things can happen now!
Thank you "Sir"
And BTW
I used to think you were a no g#@# st^%&$#$ guy!
But now I find that sometimes I want to shake your hand and give you a Hug.[a man hug!![not girly hug]]

PPS Sir Forest,
I shared your Sunday morning movies over here!

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6521-dont-kill-dipole-3.html#post112760

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 10, 2010, 03:05:51 PM

@Tito

I see you have not learned anything from @otto's swift departure from this Earth. So I guess you think you will be living forever. That you are the exception to the rule and you have all the time in the world to accomplish this dollarama festival you are running after.

So I guess you do not realize that even if you came out with a total disclosure of your OU works, that within 1 week it will be replicated and within 1-2 months it would be rendered totally obsolete once the basic function is understood, people will take this and make so many variations. And that obsolescence is a good thing that keeps people alive. It is a good thing to be known as the seed and be respected and even recompensed. But in order to realize this, you have to have faith. Those that do not have faith have kept their secrets close to their heart, but even their heart has to stop sometime and now they are gone forever.

So keep playing this game if it makes you feel superior, or invincible or eternal. Reality will win in the end and as long as the ride was immersed in your illusion, I guess it makes things OK.

But if you need some money, just make a small unit that shows overunity and send it to @stefan to be entered for the OU Prize. There is some money there just for these reasons. I am not saying your life is not difficult and that you have no need for money, etc. But the way you think you should do things is simply wrong, chock full of danger and you risk losing everything in the process. The guys with the millions are not stupid. They know you are hungry and they will wean you dry as a bone before you see any money. This is not the way to live my friend. Think about it.

@all

In the Tesla Patent there is only one main variable to the design. That is how to create the make/break so it will last more then an hour at best. Everything else is laid out for anyone to see. The explanations of how the circuit "really" works is also on the forum mainly under the The Tesla Project thread that is chock full of goodies. Just use your search feature creatively and you will find the answers. The relationship between coil and capacitor size and make/break frequency used is very important. The lower the frequency, the bigger the coils should be to be as closely timed to their charge/discharge rates.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 11, 2010, 05:43:21 AM

Hi everyone i want you to watch all of LASERSABER'S video they are of a good help. ;D

sample:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsuw12Qr8wk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28zBEvu5_g4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD06J9IpbAA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6a4goOGrgo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLL7YKO7q8c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8wk8a_-D1A&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKy1uPP5ZfE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swV6ZxCb5fw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N5yB6_Ku1c&feature=related

@sir watsup
thank you i'm ok now ;D

===================================
See SM made use of stubblefield tech in one of his tpu, cause a very small energy like a .5v is enough to amplify.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tenbatsu on October 11, 2010, 08:08:49 AM

Magluvin, any update on your experiments?

This thread is desperately lacking your input at the moment.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 11, 2010, 12:36:40 PM

Im still around. Had some issues with how things are working. My whole weekend was shot. Bang bang

I am picking up some parts I need tonight and back at it.

I know Teets says " dont you see the amplification in the igniter pat" and im trying to. I see the input being held back by the large inductor, as to where there seems to be a constant current flow from the input. But the short outputs have me thinking that over the period of time from pulse to pulse, It looks like the continuous input could add up to the total of the output as it is short. Maybe Im wrong, and being that the output pulses are so big and close, that the load sees it as a continuous flow, depending on the load.

Like if we have 10w continuous in and pulses of 1kw out, are we sure that the time span of output is larger than 100th of the input? I got a cap on the primary which seems to help prolong the output, but it lowered my peak a lot.

I also took some time to read some of the thread Watts recommended above and it does go over a lot of what we are going for here.

Be back after work

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 11, 2010, 09:10:18 PM

Tito is right. We should stop what we are doing and just go with Stubblefield coils. Its really cool.

Not

Not that the air battery isnt very cool. I like it a lot. But there must be some life expectancy from it. Its not a 100 amper nimh D cell.

Maybe there is a connection to what we are trying to do here. Im stickin with what we came for.

I know Teets is wanting us to stubble a bit, but I gotta keep on track. I dont always have a lot of time for what Im working on.

One Mocopozo vid uses the coils as flywheels. 1 being switched and the others on the loads are being kicked to drive the loads. I like Moco's stuff. Zeropoint321 turned me on to his vids a while back..

Still workin on it guys. Will post the second I have a vid goin. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 11, 2010, 11:13:48 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 11, 2010, 05:43:21 AM

See SM made use of stubblefield tech in one of his tpu, cause a very small energy like a .5v is enough to amplify.

Well, if we had a small solar cell, we could charge a battery and use that as input also, and during the day have another tiny solar panel running the circuit. Thats all fine and dandy. Stick a penny and a nickle in an Orange and we have something to work with. Its the Amplifying that we are after. If we can amplify, we dont need the source anymore, or at least we should be able to replenish the source from the amplified output.

I get the point that we can make a small voltage into a high voltage. Could it be that the short stout primary is the key? Could it be that if set up with a cap to oscillate, it is a hard field to be damped by a secondary because it has so much going for it, and so little resistance and few turns?

I have been looking at some variations of coils I have that are of very short turns and varying stoutness.
Ok the source never sees the load directly, only to use an inductor to induce a high voltage charge in a cap at a low current rate from the source.. Now probably any cap discharge into a low ohm will be disruptive of sorts. So 500v from a tiny cap will set off an lc resonant circuit, being of the primary and cap. Should the cap stay switched ON with the primary for a bit to continue oscillations? (this is what I am fighting with in my setup now)

Now that MIT vid with the dissectable jar cap was astonishing. If we were to just use a wire from the inside to the outside of the glass, would there be electron flow in the wire when it discharges? Just a jiggle? Is there electrons freed from the plates stuck to the glass? Are there more electrons on one plate than the other when removed, yet no charge differential between them when dissected? Questions questions. Caps no electron exchange. Just the force Luke. We are now in the 4th dimension.

Never Kill The Dipole Does that mean never a discharge from the Dipole? Or only kills after a very long time?
Are we to just use the source as a spring (jiggle) and it is never depleted?

I understand that you are trying to show us what can be used as a source Teets, But if we never kill the Dipole, then what does it matter what source we use? Amplify? Dats da quekstion.

I wonder if the stubble works in a vacuum? Stubble Hubble Bubble.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 12, 2010, 12:05:08 AM

Hmm Moco has something. I didnt see the cap on the load section.

I did a sim using 1 load light bulb. Looks good. The inputs are a pulsed type that go along with the output. But the output is 5 times more.

Well if this is it, then Teets has given it here. =]

This will be a lil project I can whip together pretty quick.

I am going to take notes on what I have together now and disassemble and put this baby to work.

Here is the code

$ 1 5.0E-6 5.459815003314424 50 5.0 43
w 384 192 384 464 0
c 592 464 592 192 0 8.87E-9 -9.34392179615871
l 592 464 384 464 0 0.0020 -0.1979942080069645
v 752 464 752 192 0 0 40.0 20.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
w 752 464 592 464 0
l 752 192 704 192 0 0.0021000000000000003 0.1508358744494478
181 384 192 592 192 0 22216.037624033113 0.67 7.65 0.4 0.4
w 640 192 704 192 0
159 704 288 704 352 0 0.1 1.0E10
w 704 288 704 192 0
w 704 352 704 416 0
w 704 416 752 464 0
w 688 320 656 320 0
R 656 320 656 256 0 2 496.0 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.1
d 640 192 592 192 1 0.805904783
o 3 16 1 291 74.82888383134222 9.765625E-55 0 -1
o 6 16 1 291 299.3155353253689 9.765625E-55 1 -1

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 12, 2010, 12:37:14 AM

Here is another Moco circuit with 1.2v source and tuned a bit more to just over 10 times out than in

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 12, 2010, 01:08:52 AM

So this is what "kickin" is Teets? just kickin the inductor along to keep the flow going? FEMF
Hmm Thats what we have been talking about boys, the inductor flywheel, with a lil bit of jiggle in the load section. That I have also brought up earlier, if we have a resonant circuit, if it is damped by the load, it may only get a few cycles, but if one of those cycles is as big or bigger than the input pulse, the the rest of the waves are free, the few we have left before the next input pulse. This is good. Its seemingly a lot clearer.

It seems as though we could get these functions to work mechanically. Really, Im not seeing energy from the vacuum, Im seeing energy of the function.

I like this Moco setup. I have some Tesla circuits of different sorts from Colorado Springs Notes that I need to gander at.

Well, its just a resistive(light bulb) load here, but it should prove valuable if it works. Gotta get some sleep, tomorrow is a new day. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 12, 2010, 03:13:19 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 12, 2010, 03:15:14 AM

Mags

You are ;D ;D ;) just imagine a Tesla doing discharge from capacitor

Why the hell he used so many ways to make it DISRUPTED ? Magnetic quenching, hot air,rotary controllers,multigap spark gaps etc

I think it was not clearly described in any thread . May I be right sir wattsup ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b20z95XcaX8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdUzpCgAhmA&p=BB4978E4DAE172CC&playnext=1&index=31

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 12, 2010, 09:19:36 AM

@forest

In many cases Tesla did not have the high voltage available to then discharge it directly into his coils. He had to first produce the high voltage from the voltage that was available to him either through a stand alone generator, a battery bank or directly off the mains, store it, then discharge it into his coils. The Tesla Ozone Patent is one means of economically generating high voltage. But like @erfinder once said, "who said you have to then just produce ozone". lol

The idea behind producing output is easy. The idea is to get the energy that is produced completely out of the production side and safely banked on the output side. The sooner the energy is removed from one side, then this energy can no longer work against the production side. The production side sees the output bank is empty so it can now recharge it fully from 0 to full again making each cycle as productive as possible. If the load side is consuming 80% of the production, then there is 20% that is always stagnant the production side now has to start at 21% to increase the bank again. But the production always starts at 0 so it has to reach 21% to now add 1 more to the output side. The idea is to keep the load away from the production so the production always sees a return resistance of 0.

I think @Tito is referring to the zener diode to accomplish such a separation but only once the production side has reached a minimal level. This then discharges into a separate holding system possibly through another voltage increasing method so the next cap tank can then hold higher voltage. But it is always left to some level of guess work.

One example of this uses simple switching to keep the input side far away from the load side. So let's say I will give you 1 volt forever. You can take that 1 volt in one second, or you can take 1 volts 10 times a second, or 1000 times a second. You will always have a 1 volt available for as fast as you want to catch it. But it is only 1 volt. So what do you do? I have made an animation some time ago to show such a switching scheme to catch that 1 volt, accumulate it, and pass it on to a next stage that is totally separate from the feed side. It all has to do with switching capacitors. This is a very tedious method but is shows the step by step of what is involved.

You can see it here;
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/voltage-grabber-circuit-VGC/
Just click on the gif file.

But here is the clincher. I could be totally off the track as far as @Titos device is concerned and this is the danger of discussing stuff on a Forum. Sometimes, someone opens his mouth and guys can then swing their attention to other avenues that just lead to dead ends. So please do not take what I am saying here too seriously. In a way, my stomach is full already with all the guesswork we went through with SM devices, and so many other mystery devices, and @Tito is just another source or reason for more guesswork. It's always the same thing. No one has the faith. Everyone only thinks of himself. Wow, I wonder where we would be if every man on Earth past and present lived that way. We'd be up Shits Creek without a paddle, actually without a boat.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 12, 2010, 10:16:39 AM

sir wattsup

Sorry if I misunderstood but I think you see only one side of the coin ;D
Something I already knew long time ago , and this is what Tesla described a magic in capacitor - that you can discharge it very fast thus managing any rate of energy flow....The second side of coin is not described except in Tito tips ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 12, 2010, 10:42:34 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaihbfM3C5k

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 12, 2010, 06:19:52 PM

Yes Forest, ;D ;D

Im happy about this. I have been thinking all day.
Im running some test runs on my 2mh coils as a pulse motor, like a bedini, but with extra coil, like Moco.

In the past on some of my YT vids, when I thought I was catching bemf, I was really catching femf. I have to go through them to see which ones. I remember the diodes being backwards but working, and I just assumed that it was bemf, and didnt know femf even existed at the time. Not that they went in depth one the subject back then. . Lol like when I said Left Hand Rule. Its right hand. lol
Feel like a fool at times.

The tings we remember and the tings we forget, or get twisted. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 13, 2010, 08:09:10 AM

Quote from: wattsup on October 12, 2010, 09:19:36 AM
@forest

In many cases Tesla did not have the high voltage available to then discharge it directly into his coils. He had to first produce the high voltage from the voltage that was available to him either through a stand alone generator, a battery bank or directly off the mains, store it, then discharge it into his coils. The Tesla Ozone Patent is one means of economically generating high voltage. But like @erfinder once said, "who said you have to then just produce ozone". lol

The idea behind producing output is easy. The idea is to get the energy that is produced completely out of the production side and safely banked on the output side. The sooner the energy is removed from one side, then this energy can no longer work against the production side. The production side sees the output bank is empty so it can now recharge it fully from 0 to full again making each cycle as productive as possible. If the load side is consuming 80% of the production, then there is 20% that is always stagnant the production side now has to start at 21% to increase the bank again. But the production always starts at 0 so it has to reach 21% to now add 1 more to the output side. The idea is to keep the load away from the production so the production always sees a return resistance of 0.

I think @Tito is referring to the zener diode to accomplish such a separation but only once the production side has reached a minimal level. This then discharges into a separate holding system possibly through another voltage increasing method so the next cap tank can then hold higher voltage. But it is always left to some level of guess work.

One example of this uses simple switching to keep the input side far away from the load side. So let's say I will give you 1 volt forever. You can take that 1 volt in one second, or you can take 1 volts 10 times a second, or 1000 times a second. You will always have a 1 volt available for as fast as you want to catch it. But it is only 1 volt. So what do you do? I have made an animation some time ago to show such a switching scheme to catch that 1 volt, accumulate it, and pass it on to a next stage that is totally separate from the feed side. It all has to do with switching capacitors. This is a very tedious method but is shows the step by step of what is involved.

You can see it here;
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/voltage-grabber-circuit-VGC/
Just click on the gif file.

But here is the clincher. I could be totally off the track as far as @Titos device is concerned and this is the danger of discussing stuff on a Forum. Sometimes, someone opens his mouth and guys can then swing their attention to other avenues that just lead to dead ends. So please do not take what I am saying here too seriously. In a way, my stomach is full already with all the guesswork we went through with SM devices, and so many other mystery devices, and @Tito is just another source or reason for more guesswork. It's always the same thing. No one has the faith. Everyone only thinks of himself. Wow, I wonder where we would be if every man on Earth past and present lived that way. We'd be up Shits Creek without a paddle, actually without a boat.

wattsup,
assume you have a big heavy obelisks in domino fashion :D you need a big buum to move one but then you need nothing more
and yes,rate of change means more then power
actually yours words are not bad at all :D just place a little twist here and there ;D
quench store shake some LEFT ::)
because you can have 1 volts forever ;D after
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3McwWIqzTM&p=64A847BB73E93C6E&playnext=1&index=43
actually I checked and it does not depend on capacitor, big, small high low behave the same way as in video but for igniter patent it has a meaning
8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 13, 2010, 08:23:40 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfL3QWJSCu0&feature=related

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 13, 2010, 08:47:23 AM

capacitors cannot store charge
look here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CetsbCjmhM8&NR=1

if capacitance of parallel plate capacitor do not depends on charge placed between plates and because energy stord insid is
E=0.5*CU^2 that means energy of capacitor depends only on voltage and size of capacitor

I can only guess that in MIT dissectable capacitor video we see how assembled back capacitor recreate charge in metal terminals

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 14, 2010, 01:03:58 PM

Well, so far things are disappointing. But I think I know what I am missing in this, and the right caps will be needed.
I have a few caps that are very leaky, as in the charge they hold dissipates within the cap. Still workin on it. My bench, err dresser top is a wreak. ;\

I was just here having lunch and saw this vid on YT. It was just on my homepage as a pick for me.

This motor gen is very interesting and he has an analogy of its function using a bowl of soapy water and running the tap into it from the edge. Notice the copper tubing and how its arranged. I am seeing the copper tubing as a very stout coil/electromagnet that acts upon the wheel in a way we might not get conventionally. I believe the current is entered through the shaft tubes. If it works, its energy amplification, so I thought to put it up here for a gander. I wasnt too crazy about it at first, but then I got hooked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xsZa3yXEKw&feature=related

Last night I was just doing some basic tests of som inductors and working on an inductor calculator to twist my own. ;]

Mocos circuit is an inductor discharge into the resonant circuit. And I think that him having the 3 outputs with coils in parallel to the R to ring longer. Not sure if thats the case or if just 1 big bulb and inductor can be a substitute.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 14, 2010, 08:29:57 PM

guys

Im having a hard time today
Im living in my brothers house and paying full rent and bills that he is racked up to 2 times what they should be.
We were arguing and he is always right. Like the text books I read in electronics school. ;/

anyway I am testing some coils and caps to find a GOOD resonance. Any one have a formula for equal cap and coil resonance? This is not to be found on search. It seems to be a secret. I suppose I have to test and test and test. Yummy. lol Im not having a good day, so if someone can help us out here it would be plenty appreciated. =]

I went to electronics for 3 years at Votech and 2 years at Electronics institute of Pitts. I dont remember it all, I admit, but there is some things that they did not tell me. Thats our world. And we need to change that.
Our world. WE can make a difference.

Whether we are all crucified for it, it is what we believe. Dont let it fall between our finger tips.

I admit again, I need help here. I need all that can be given.

Mocos circuit is missing parameters. I cannot get to that point. He has a good circuit. Its a start.

is it 100uh per load. Is it 1h on the input inductor? dunno I can say that from what I read, 1h is big. real big.

but I am probably going to long on my pulses to the input inductor and causing too much current for too long on my input. Moco uses a transistor, and it works. I believe in Mocos stuff as I have watched his stuff before and it is trust able.

Anyway, having a bad day. I have been having them for a bit now and about to explode, pop pop.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on October 14, 2010, 08:35:11 PM

@magluvin

Just get away from your projects and get some diversion. I am sure that when you are away from it something triggers the solutiion idea.

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 14, 2010, 08:55:23 PM

I have faith Jesus =] Sometimes we forget that it exists and we go beyond in what we shouldnt. But I do come back to reality. i just need to settle tonight. i will always be thinking.

Thanks Jesus. And thanks Jesus. =]

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: iflewmyown on October 14, 2010, 09:30:48 PM

Hey Mags,

http://www.whatcircuits.com/lc-resonance-frequency-calculator/

This will find your values for you.
Enjoy
Garry

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 14, 2010, 09:43:20 PM

Thanks Iflew
But what I am looking for is to find a balance between the cap and inductor. There is a so called full resonance, in which the balance is of equal energy between the cap and inductor. Sure there can be resonance between any combo, but when equaled, there is no comparison. =]

I have searched for this answer and have not found it yet. Thanks for the site though, I liked the way it does the calc as in, it allows any parameter to be calculated easily.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 14, 2010, 09:54:59 PM

In fact, if someone busted out 2 values that are in my quota, this would be all said and done with. We then could work from there with just about any value, in comparison.
Im still searching..

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bimbothova on October 15, 2010, 12:57:46 AM

This may help guys ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Efvq65RVTo&feature=player_profilepage

Magluvin ... u have been made famous for your simple youtube video about magnetic cogging ...
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:_Hatem_Magnetic_Cogging_Device

Overunity.com page ...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9854.msg260627#msg260627

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Doug1 on October 16, 2010, 12:07:16 PM

Quote from: bimbothova on October 15, 2010, 12:57:46 AM
This may help guys ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Efvq65RVTo&feature=player_profilepage

Magluvin ... u have been made famous for your simple youtube video about magnetic cogging ...
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:_Hatem_Magnetic_Cogging_Device

Overunity.com page ...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9854.msg260627#msg260627

Thanks for the link I had not seen that vid before. Thank you Magluvin for the video as well.
It made question perhaps that cogging effect also happens within the wire windings around a core. Im still trying to get my head around the model.
I suspect there is a single condition that must happen to extract more work out of then is put in to any arangement.This model is very interesting.
I also have to wonder if there is not some micro sized nodes that are so close together around a core that the normal way to over come this is in the practice of using more turns and then falling back onto the cogging effects between winds to get out anything usefull. I would like to think there is a way to use use the micro nodes better if they exisit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Doug1 on October 16, 2010, 12:53:03 PM

Now it has me thinking more.
The lever or cantileaver is used to multiply force sacrificing distance but what if your distance requirements are not so great. Like rowing a ship with many paddles and many people. Once the ship gets going momentum will take over to some degree.
If the flux is movement rather then having one winding of many turns maybe many small seperate windings of nearly no turns or the least turns would reguire little power to a longer secondary or even a collection of the same. It would be interesting to know if it is a case of normally having a great deal of waste then trying to figure ways to resolve the waste outside the cause of the problem. That would certainly insure a great level of difficulty in getting unity over 1.
Boy wouldnt that be a bitch,like looking for a better shock absorber to over come the ride from your square tire.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 16, 2010, 03:44:48 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 14, 2010, 09:43:20 PM
Thanks Iflew
But what I am looking for is to find a balance between the cap and inductor. There is a so called full resonance, in which the balance is of equal energy between the cap and inductor. Sure there can be resonance between any combo, but when equaled, there is no comparison. =]

I have searched for this answer and have not found it yet. Thanks for the site though, I liked the way it does the calc as in, it allows any parameter to be calculated easily.

Mags

Hi Mags,

Would really like to understand what you think of but no clue... would you describe it in some more detail? Never heard of 'full resonance' or of 'balance between the cap and inductor'... Probably it is the words that block me (English is my second language) but if you could put it otherwise it may be of help to understand you.

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 16, 2010, 04:03:18 PM

Hey Gyula
I have read that any cap and coil can have resonant frequencies. But, when the cap and inductor are of equal energy storing capabilities, the resonance is best. Maybe I am not saying it right. Im still searching for that statement.

Hey Doug

Im not sure the Hatem devices claims, if real, have anything to do with the cogging. His mags are set up for a very tight gearing. And each wheel carries a lot of weight, including the mags.

But I do know from my experiments that all 3 of his cog wheels add up to 1 larger flywheel.
I sorta see the flywheel as an inductor, and an LC circuit as a pendulum, or just an off centered flywheel. Like the inductor is, in theory, a perfect electronic flywheel, and a cap sets it off balance. How much do we need to make the wheel(inductor) off balance to become the longest lasting electronic pendulum possible?

Im working on some things this afternoon. Will be back on later..

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 16, 2010, 04:49:44 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 16, 2010, 04:03:18 PM
Hey Gyula
I have read that any cap and coil can have resonant frequencies. But, when the cap and inductor are of equal energy storing capabilities, the resonance is best. Maybe I am not saying it right. Im still searching for that statement.
...

Yes, any cap or coil combination has got a resonant frequency somewhere, the Thomson formula give the frequency.
Or you mean a cap or coil has an equivalent circuit with a series inductance in case of a cap and a distributed parallel cap for a coil? Yes this is so and in both cases the loss resistances are also considered. This means that a cap has a series resonant frequency in itself, without adding any coil to it, and a coil has a parallel resonant frequency in itself, without adding any cap to it. Is this what you think of combining?

Considering the equal energy storing capability: if you mean the stored energies are equal in them, then you can equate the two formulas for the stored energy in case of an L and a C like this:
E=L*I^2/2 and E=C*V^2/2 so L*I^2/2=C*V^2/2 from this it comes that L/C=V^2/I^2 so square root(L/C)=V/I and V/I=Z and this Z is either the capacitive or inductive reactance in Ohm at resonance.
Will further ponder on this, what advantage this might give if any...

rgds, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 16, 2010, 05:15:47 PM

Yes Gyula Maybe it is that hey have the same resonance, but I remember the equal energy thing.
Like a huge coil and a tiny pico cap may not be as good as a larger cap, And the same vice versa, a huge cap and a tiny inductor. where is the middle? If we know the middle, we can scale our parts equally in either direction for what ever purpose.. Like a pendulum and flywheel, the pen is just a coil with a cap. The total weight of the offset flywheel is the inductor and the cap is how much offset there is. Think about the many combination's that would give different results?

Today I am messing with a larger wire/few turns coil. Just to see what I can see.

I was checking out Core's project. He says it gives him headaches pretty quick, and goes away as quick as they come when he shuts it off. I would like to stay away from such projects. Hopefully this is not one of them. =]

Be back in a bit.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 17, 2010, 03:56:11 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 16, 2010, 05:15:47 PM
Yes Gyula Maybe it is that they have the same resonance, but I remember the equal energy thing.
Like a huge coil and a tiny pico cap may not be as good as a larger cap, And the same vice versa, a huge cap and a tiny inductor. where is the middle? If we know the middle, we can scale our parts equally in either direction for what ever purpose.. Like a pendulum and flywheel, the pen is just a coil with a cap. The total weight of the offset flywheel is the inductor and the cap is how much offset there is. Think about the many combination's that would give different results?

Today I am messing with a larger wire/few turns coil. Just to see what I can see.

I was checking out Core's project. He says it gives him headaches pretty quick, and goes away as quick as they come when he shuts it off. I would like to stay away from such projects. Hopefully this is not one of them. =]

Be back in a bit.

Mags

Hi Mags,

So you are thinking of the so called L/C ratio I guess. It means that the AC impedance of an LC parallel circuit at resonance can be much different in case you use a 10uH - 100pF combination (their resonant frequency is 5.03MHz) or you use for instance a 100uH - 10pF combination for the same 5.03MHz resonant frequency.
The impedance for parallel LC tanks comes from the reactance value of either the L or C (they are the same at resonance) multiplied by the coil's Q or quality factor. (Assuming the Q of the capacitor is much higher than that of the coil, normally this is valid in practice.)
So assuming a moderate Q of say 80 for a practical coil at 5MHz, the impedance, Z for such a 10uH coil + 100pF combination comes out as Z=Q*XL, XL=2PI*f*L=6.28*5*10=314 Ohm so Z=Q*314=80*314=25.12 kOhm. Now if you use the 100uH - 10pF combination and suppose you can make a 100uH coil for 5MHz with the same Q=80 value (still practical), then the impedance for this case comes out as XL=6.28*5*100=3140 Ohm, Z=Q*3140=80*3140=251.2 kOhm

So we have a resonant AC impedance of 251kOhm versus the 25.1kOm just by using a 100uH coil instead of the 10uH (assuming a Q of 80 for both, this is important when you compare) and using a 10pF cap instead of the 100pF capacitor value, respectively.

Now the question is how the stored energy varies in the different cases? The stored energy in a capacitor for instance depends on the second power of the voltage across it and linearly depends on its actual capacitance value: E=C*V²/2 This means if you decrease the cap value 10 times, from 100pF to 10pF, the stored energy gets 10 times less, assuming the voltage would remain the same, however, for the capacitance case of 10pF the 251kOhm resultant AC impedance inherently involves higher resonant voltages too (still assuming the loaded Q is 80 of course) so the stored energy can easily turn to not a decrease but a gain. The resonant impedance increase is ten times (251kOhm/25kOhm) so the AC voltage across it can also be 10 times higher and the 10 times increase in voltage means a 100 times increase in the stored cap energy.

Considering this for the coil, the stored energy E=L*I²/2 and the ten times linear increase of L from 10uH to 100uH gives a 10 times increase in stored energy and the second power of the current may remain at the same value like in case of the 10uH if the loaded Q is kept at the same Q=80 value.

If these 'ramblings' are correct (I believe they are), then there seems to be no middle value for the L-C combinations you look for but an extreme limit of using the highest value coil with the smallest value cap if you are to maximize stored energy... This may correspond to Tesla's coil where he did not use any parallel capacitance but the unavoidable self-capacitance and used thick wire for his coils to reduce losses to a minimum.

I have not mentioned yet that if you increase the coil's inductance from 10uH to 100uH and suppose you use a thicker wire for the 100uH coil to get the same DC copper resistance like the 10uH coil has, then the quality factor also increases 10 times because Q=X_L/R where R is the losses that include the DC resistance, the main loss factor for an air core coil. The higher coil Q gives higher AC resonant impedance. So your larger wire tinkering is good direction.

If there is a correct equivalence comparison between a mechanical pendulum and an LC tank circuit, then the above reasonings somehow should reflect back on the pendulum, within reasonable mechanical limits of course.

I hope my 'ramblings' may help you in your progress.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: iflewmyown on October 17, 2010, 09:03:01 AM

@gyulasun
An excellent explanation!!
Garry

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on October 17, 2010, 10:06:57 AM

to gyula: great nice facts

actually ..can be easily say: the energy in LC tank will be grater when you use bigger capacitance than inductance. in case 100uh 10pf will be energy smaler than in case 10uh 100pf.
But the tank will also need more energy to delivery (smaler resistance)

In reality, on the coil will be almost same voltage in both cases, but the current will be bigger in case of bigger capacitor.(that means also bigger power on coil)

When you use a thicker wire to coil, then the coil wil also have bigger capacitance because bigger surface of the wire, and Tesla uses a ground which add serious capacitance to the coil but do not decrease his Q.

But the ground ...is already charged, so when coil oscilate every time on the grounding point of the coil is positive is smal amout of charges indrawn to the coil, that create a magnetic field which will add to the magnetic field of the coil and when the magnetic field collapse.... charges up the capacitance to bigger value that before ...and bigger potential will indrawn more charges from earth, so in that case on secondary coil can be bigger movements of current (bigger power) as tesla stated in one of his patent. that of course will have bigger influence on the primary.
if you feed your tesla coil directly from semiconductors or some like that. you will see a serious rise in consumption form source in resonance point. Interesting is... that is not happening when you use disruptive discharge thru spark gap metod :) because there is only final amount of energy which can be delivered.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 17, 2010, 02:41:33 PM

Garry and IWD: Thanks for the kind words.

To IWD:

You wrote the energy in an LC tank is greater when using the lower value coil i.e. in my example the 10uH - 100pF values at 5.03MHz, compared to the 100uH - 10pF combination. And you added that for the 10uH - 100pF combination the tank needs a higher input energy to keep up oscillations because that combination has less resonant impedance than 100uH -10pF combination.
Ok, I agree but this is just the opposite conclusion to what I wrote in my previous post...
However, now I think both of us are right LOL and the explanation for this virtual controversy is found here, see the very bottom text in this link:
http://www.play-hookey.com/ac_theory/ac_lc_parallel.html

"...if we use a large value of L and a small value of C, their reactances will be high and the amount of current circulating in the tank will be small. If we reverse that and use a low value of L and a high value of C, their reactances will be low and the amount of current circulating in the tank will be much greater. Many applications of this type of circuit depend on the amount of circulating current as well as the resonant frequency, so you need to be aware of this factor. In fact, in real-world circuits that cannot avoid having some resistance (especially in L), it is possible to have such a high circulating current that the energy lost in R (p = iÂ²R) is sufficient to cause L to burn up!"

Now I wonder if Magluvin has received an answer for his question... ;)

Gyula

Quote from: IWD on October 17, 2010, 10:06:57 AM
to gyula: great nice facts

actually ..can be easily say: the energy in LC tank will be grater when you use bigger capacitance than inductance. in case 100uh 10pf will be energy smaler than in case 10uh 100pf.
But the tank will also need more energy to delivery (smaler resistance)

In reality, on the coil will be almost same voltage in both cases, but the current will be bigger in case of bigger capacitor.(that means also bigger power on coil)

When you use a thicker wire to coil, then the coil wil also have bigger capacitance because bigger surface of the wire, and Tesla uses a ground which add serious capacitance to the coil but do not decrease his Q.

But the ground ...is already charged, so when coil oscilate every time on the grounding point of the coil is positive is smal amout of charges indrawn to the coil, that create a magnetic field which will add to the magnetic field of the coil and when the magnetic field collapse.... charges up the capacitance to bigger value that before ...and bigger potential will indrawn more charges from earth, so in that case on secondary coil can be bigger movements of current (bigger power) as tesla stated in one of his patent. that of course will have bigger influence on the primary.
if you feed your tesla coil directly from semiconductors or some like that. you will see a serious rise in consumption form source in resonance point. Interesting is... that is not happening when you use disruptive discharge thru spark gap metod :) because there is only final amount of energy which can be delivered.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 17, 2010, 05:19:00 PM

Good stuff guys. Thanks for your work here. It is all work when you think about it. =]

Im tryin to bust a problem on my buddys laptop. Has an antivirus virus. lol You know, the antivirus that yells and screams at you to purchase their product, that probably doesnt exisit. Every 20 seconds it interupts anything you do.
I should be done in a bit.

I cant wait to get back and absorb it all.. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 18, 2010, 06:46:05 AM

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy mad dog.
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy mad dog.
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy mad dog.
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy mad dog.
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy mad dog.
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy mad dog.
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy mad dog.
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy mad dog.
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy mad dog.

::)

Bye and good luck ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: penno64 on October 18, 2010, 08:01:12 AM

@ Tito

Avramenko ?

What ??

Penno

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 18, 2010, 08:14:35 AM

I have problem where to connect http://amacci.net/blog/?p=598
in Tesla igniter patent :(
or maybe it is not required ?

???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 18, 2010, 09:09:32 AM

Quote from: penno64 on October 18, 2010, 08:01:12 AM
@ Tito

Avramenko ?

What ??

Penno

He suggests using the Avramenko plug?

http://www.alternativkanalen.com/s-wire.htm

http://keelynet.com/energy/frolov1.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 18, 2010, 09:36:16 AM

Mags,

Here is link, maybe you have seen it, deals with induction heating but basically a very good discussion on phase response and impedance mathing wrt series and parallel LC resonant circuits.
http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/indheat.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on October 18, 2010, 10:12:27 AM

If next thing to mix to this mumraj is avramenko.

$ 1 5.0E-6 10.391409633455755 50 5.0 50
d 224 80 448 80 0
d 672 80 448 80 0
w 224 80 224 368 0
w 672 80 672 368 0
c 224 368 448 368 0 1.0E-7 -9780.42923460616
c 448 368 672 368 0 1.0E-7 9780.429234618226
w 448 80 448 112 0
R 448 112 448 128 0 2 40.0 5000.0 0.0
r 448 368 672 224 0 1000000.0
r 448 368 224 224 0 1000000.0
r 448 448 672 448 0 100.0
A 448 272 448 176 0
g 672 448 672 544 0
c 448 448 448 512 0 1.0E-5 4.4783854611084335
g 448 512 448 544 0
d 448 368 448 448 0
d 448 272 448 368 0
o 10 64 0 3 40.0 0.4 0

When square wave is HV coil, ground is clasical earth and antena can be just wire. then the 100 ohm resistor is the load. Of course this simulation is not exact. Because planet earth is hard to simulate.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on October 18, 2010, 07:20:02 PM

Is it this what we are looking for?
I mean Magnification or amplification?

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 18, 2010, 11:28:02 PM

....

The process of the amplifier referred by tesla is explode then stop and listen then explode again then harvest the wires.

The other brilliant one is explode then a wave of explosion will next to it without a connection from the first explosion then harvest the multiple gain made by the first small explosion.

ooops don't forget the recursion and cron to make a perfect timing in loop.

NOTE: This technique can lead into a masssssss destruction so be careful. a loop should be in control or else LIGHTNING WILL APPEAR INSTANTLY! AND MAKES YOU CRISPY AND DELICIOUS!!!

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 19, 2010, 12:13:22 AM

Another Example:

Let say for example everyone is holding a candle, starting from me, i will lighten the two and the two will lighten the four and so forth lighting everyone by everyone.

This technique is the rolling ice stone or falling domino and this is the ultimate amplifier of tesla that was not directly recorded but we can see the first steps in many of his patents.

All we need to do is RE.

That's it, i have given you the closest tip i could give, i hope you can do it

Good luck once again, be careful and bye. ;)

Otits L. Noicaro ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 19, 2010, 12:49:00 PM

Thanks Teets. Its hard to imagine the dominoes, as after the have all tipped over, we have to reset them all again.
But im sure your tips will get us there as we go along.

I also believe you about the lightning. I have not done it yet, but I can see that the voltages can get way up there with the right ingredients.
I like the 2 diodes on the end of the secondary with the load. I read that article many times. I am going to try that at some low voltages, as the article says it can be done. I am thinking that possibly this can be done with many coils and outputs, without affecting the source. I think, from what I gather from the article.

My projects of late have been dull. I get full of excitement then depressed a bit. But I have been there many times and it is becoming easier to deal with.

Im in a process of moving again. But, I didnt really unpack most of it while I was here. So it will go smoothly.
Some moving this weekend and next. So I still have time to party with the coils and caps during the week. =]

Thanks all, you all bring a lot to the table and it helps my enthusiasm.

At lunch bbl

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on October 19, 2010, 06:25:58 PM

With high quality and low capacitance I can see where you are going with this Tito.

wait for it...... ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 19, 2010, 09:15:28 PM

Quote from: stprue on October 19, 2010, 06:25:58 PM
With high quality and low capacitance I can see where you are going with this Tito.

wait for it...... ;D

No! just use ordinary ac capacitor and at least 5 - 30uf will do the job ok.

and we don't need that tesla coiling method!

everything is on how you make your coil or transformer.

bye;

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 19, 2010, 10:05:46 PM

Teets Question =]

Now im in the fog. Dont follow Tesla coiling method? But I thought that was what we were suppose to look at carefully.
There are many ways to make coils and transformers. Wow, we got a lot of work ahead of us.

Oh well, im guna start winding. I made a toroid inductor yesterday, on a core that was from a high end car amp power supply. It is 40 turns of 18 awg, but the first 20 went all the way around to the start, and the other 20 went inbetween each of the first 20 turns. Bifi. I dont know if the core will affect its bifiness, but its just one of many coils I have made. I should take a pic of all the coils. My most intense ones were the Orbonbon coils. Just the making it neat and perfect is timely.
Well Im going to try this toroid and see what it do. Wut it Do. lol I jabbed it with 12v from a 7ah bat. As I held the leads coming from it, when it made connection, I could feel the lead jerk, err, I felt something. It happens every time it takes the current. Though the core is wound tight, as I thought the core may be the jerker, I think it is just some motor force at work. Against what, I dunno.

Ok I gotta try some things with this.

Thanks for the tips teets. I cant say I am using all of them, as I dont understand them all yet, but my molasses gray matter is being stirred. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 19, 2010, 10:15:44 PM

Quote from: nievesoliveras on October 18, 2010, 07:20:02 PM
Is it this what we are looking for?
I mean Magnification or amplification?

Jesus

Hey Jesus

What if there were a bunch of the Extra coils. Would it load down the source? Man, just when I think I have some answers as to how to use coils in a different way, a new idea comes along.

Well, my bench will be the last thing I move , as I move, and will be set up directly when I get there. But a new desk will be had for it. I need some shelves. =]

Ok I gotta go make this coil jump around. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 19, 2010, 10:53:25 PM

oh i'm sorry, i was referring to the picture presented by nieves above, we don't need that, that is bulky.

re peat, re turn, re do, re cursion, re new, re wind, re cycle is all that we need to increase energy. and that is very fast ok AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE TO USE.

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 19, 2010, 11:02:57 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 19, 2010, 12:49:00 PM
Its hard to imagine the dominoes, as after the have all tipped over, we have to reset them all again.

i am referring to the "Active Falling", no resetting to be done just go back.

consider those dominoes as ________, sorry mags that's it. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 19, 2010, 11:11:00 PM

Sorry Teetsla You have me Re coiling Re capping Re everything. lol

I know you are trying to make a point But can you sharpen it a bit? The Point? Re Point? =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 19, 2010, 11:32:52 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 19, 2010, 11:11:00 PM
Sorry Teetsla You have me Re coiling Re capping Re everything. lol

I know you are trying to make a point But can you sharpen it a bit? The Point? Re Point? =]

Mags

THE POINT IS IF YOU CAN CHARGE A CAP GREATER THAN THE SOURCE USING ONLY ONE MODULE THEN AS IT RETURN, THERE IS AN INCREASE OF AT LEAST ONE GAIN THEN YOU HAVE SOLVED THE PUZZLE.

THE SECOND POINT IS THIS IF YOU DISCHARGE A RESERVOIR IN A MULTIPLE HOSE USING AGAIN A SINGLE MODULE THEN WHEN IT RETURN IT CARIES ONE GAIN OF ELECTRON THEN SUCCESS. YOU HAVE SOLVED THE PUZZLE. BUT TAKE NOTE : IT SHOULD BE IN A CONTROLLABLE MANNER OK! OR ELSE "BOOM" :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on October 20, 2010, 09:05:13 AM

@magluvin

I took that schematic from a site that is trying to accomplish the same magnification that is on the photo.

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 20, 2010, 09:48:30 AM

Tito,
Quote,:
AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE TO USE.
----------------------------------------
Does this part mean a battery?
{meaning a battery is VERY important for this]

Chose one.
1. yes
2.No

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2010, 11:28:18 PM

Wow Nieve That is a huge setup in front of that house. The neighbors must have been terrified. =]

Hey Teets. Ok, that point was sharpened, and thanks. Modules? Ok well thats the first I have heard that from you. But you had termed it another way before. But modules are cool.

Im a bit lost here but will keep on truckin. =] I did have a question, but as I wrote this, I decided it was invalid. =[

I had tried the 2 diodes on a load off of the end of a secondary as shown above, and nada.
Not at high freq, but as the article said, that low voltage and freq could be done also, I didnt get anything.
I thought about it for a bit as to how current could flow through the load in this config. Lets say a positive or negative phase caused current to flow through 1 diode, through the load, and back out the other diode back into the same wire. I suppose it could happen, like a single wire cable can send multiple signals at once. But I see the open ended secondaries charge at the time to work against this, in my mind. hmm I have some ideas that I want to try to see this effect, so back to the bench.
I hurt my heal today from stepping on a rock the wrong way, and its hurtin. Im guna get some rest.

I have been desiring being able to put up some vids. I enjoy doing them. But they need some good content.

Man I wish I didnt have to work so much and be able to get more done here. Im trying to give a lot of attn here, but with the move and my brothers bad attitude here, I have to put this aside quite a bit. Once Im settled, I will have a greater amount of time to think properly also.

My brother is being prescribed aderal and 2 whole zanex each day from a doctor that should be put in prison.. and also a half gal of vodka a day. It is very hard to deal with him in any fashion. But Im out of here and wont have these types of distractions. I pray. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 21, 2010, 12:08:32 AM

Quote from: ramset on October 20, 2010, 09:48:30 AM
Tito,
Quote,:
AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE TO USE.
----------------------------------------
Does this part mean a battery?
{meaning a battery is VERY important for this]

Chose one.
1. yes
2.No

Chet

Yes in one of my setup, i actually using one 3v button cell.

No in one of my setup, cause i'm using stubblefield or two different metals or galvanic battery.

No again in one of my setup cause i'm using antenna as source.

all in all battery is still much better to use cause it is stable and reliable. and small ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 21, 2010, 12:23:49 AM

modules is a set of procedures and function to do some task, that when i go back there it do some gain of at least 1/3 of the power used but because we return a lot of times until a reservoir is full then that's it. ;D

There should be a validation if it is time to continue or not yet ;)

Perfect Timing is always needed cause in basketball throwing and throwing are useless if they are not point counted. ;D

or in assassination, the subject must be there before throwing a bomb. ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 21, 2010, 01:39:50 AM

Tito

1. multiple hose have to be special filled or air ?

questions about Tesla igniter

2. high self-induction coil surely have iron core
do we use it:
a) to push a roundabout
b) as a wire

3. I'm using 9V battery to push roundabout, is that able to lock to correct cron timing or is better 2a

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 21, 2010, 09:12:50 AM

Mags
I can Feel the torment in your posts,It upsets me because I know how powerless you feel about your brother.

I went thru a simular time in my life ,when I was like your brother,there is no escape from the torment in a pill or a bottle,been there done that!

Tell you brother he really can make the rest of his life the best of his life!

I will mail you my # and would be happy to share my experience with him!
Keeping you in my prayers,
Chet
PS
@Mags and ALL
If your not watching this you should be
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7833.new

400% ---2700% overunity
independently varified!!!
And Thane, boom boom, Cranky pants, Zilla
Is available !!
I must be dreamin??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 21, 2010, 12:11:31 PM

Thanks Ram I appreciate that. ;]

Teets! So some of the tips you are using programming dialect to describe things. That helps.
Roundabout = flywheel ? ;]

Timing. Can it be automated, or triggered for accuracy according to the operation, or is just fine tuning necessary? Do you use micro controllers? PIC

Thanks Teetla. These things are very helpfull. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 21, 2010, 12:18:25 PM

Ram

That is interesting on the transformer. What if you have 2 toroid cores side by side and looped them together with a primary, then put the secondaries on the outer side of each core, could it do the same? It might be very simple.

But maybe the cores would have to be shaved to mate with each other to look more like and 8 rather than 00, just from what I see that he has the primary on a much leaner core than the secondary. Thinkin.

Thanks for the good show. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 21, 2010, 02:01:58 PM

All Data On
Thanes device,just posted here!
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=443
@ Mags
Good to see your Cracking the "Teetsla Cron frozen ice balls Code"

Teets You better be nice to Mags!

Or I'll B&*$t Y#$&% R&*%) in the eye!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 21, 2010, 11:07:27 PM

Quote from: forest on October 21, 2010, 01:39:50 AM
Tito

1. multiple hose have to be special filled or air ?

No: there is no special filled or air; just use them naturally but they
should be made in an efficient way.

questions about Tesla igniter

2. high self-induction coil surely have iron core
do we use it:

it depends actually, we can use them for boosting volts and current, its up to us what we want to increase.

a) to push a roundabout
b) as a wire
c) as a dissipater at the same time
d) for strong kicking also
e) all of the above ;D

3. I'm using 9V battery to push roundabout, is that able to lock to correct cron timing or is better 2a

sorry i don't much get your question or how you make your timing.

First and formost is how you use your source, it must be used in efficient manner and in half life only.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 21, 2010, 11:09:25 PM

Quote from: ramset on October 21, 2010, 02:01:58 PM
All Data On
Thanes device,just posted here!
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=443
@ Mags
Good to see your Cracking the "Teetsla Cron frozen ice balls Code"

Teets You better be nice to Mags!

Or I'll B&*$t Y#$&% R&*%) in the eye!

Chet

Don't worry i'll be gentle honey ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 21, 2010, 11:18:54 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 21, 2010, 12:11:31 PM
Thanks Ram I appreciate that. ;]

Teets! So some of the tips you are using programming dialect to describe things. That helps.
Roundabout = flywheel ? ;]

Timing. Can it be automated, or triggered for accuracy according to the operation, or is just fine tuning necessary? Do you use micro controllers? PIC

Thanks Teetla. These things are very helpfull. ;]

Mags

no i'm not using microcontroller.
i'm just using a very simple components as much as possible like what tesla is using in his days. but for the sake of size i'm using some.

nature timing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 22, 2010, 01:41:05 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 21, 2010, 11:18:54 PM
no i'm not using microcontroller.
i'm just using a very simple components as much as possible like what tesla is using in his days. but for the sake of size i'm using some.

nature timing.

Using some what? Nature timing?

Would this be more correct... i'm just using a very simple components as much as possible like what tesla is using in his days. but for the sake of size i'm using some Nature timing. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 22, 2010, 04:05:59 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 21, 2010, 11:18:54 PM
no i'm not using microcontroller.
i'm just using a very simple components as much as possible like what tesla is using in his days. but for the sake of size i'm using some.

nature timing.

Tito

that what I was asking for
I use CD motor and external circuit to manage speed but there is also Adams motor with reed switch way when nature is timing. I wanted to know if I could expect any results when using external circuit OR only nature timing ?

now a nice part ;D ;D

about hoses ::) and pushing water inside
a) ordinary one plumber use soft iron pipes ::)
b) some crazy use strange :P costly pipes (looks like black metal ::))
c) normal poor guy would use air and handwork but then require high pressure (require?)
d) our good friend otto (R.I.P)said about copper hose

i'm trying to use low pressure now to understand in re do re turn re cursion module
Tito which one hose is the best in series for low pressure ? ;D

high selfinduction coil in Tesla patent has no sec ondary (has it got ?) ? any gain without it ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 22, 2010, 04:13:04 AM

quest song for Dj-Tito :D

do we use sec ?
just like
av rap men cop
to make my cap
with more juice
for big top and pike
when each spike is hike
be cool and nice
strong rap
is going to cap

;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 22, 2010, 09:59:40 PM

Quote from: forest on October 22, 2010, 04:13:04 AM
quest song for Dj-Tito :D

do we use sec ?
just like
av rap men cop
to make my cap
with more juice
for big top and pike
when each spike is hike
be cool and nice
strong rap
is going to cap

;)

@forest

CHEEEEEEERS! :)

just teach mags what you have bud. ;)

That is what i'm saying, in time you got it, then thats the time you realize what i'm saying is right. isn't it?

i think what you need now is a refinement of your design and some correct materials and places for components and that is i think where we have to be differ if whose the best design ok; ;D

Just last tip: it is better for our device that it can able to receive or detect signals easily so that the source is stable ok ;)

No more tips now, just try and think which is best or correct materials ok.

now you have the version one of tesla's amplifier.
the second one is more brilliant. => rolling stone ice just notice how nature works.

sir wattsup is very correct for we have 1 volt forever but that is a long method.
but here is what i say "THERE IS ALWAYS A BETTER WAY" ;D AND "THERE IS ALWAYS A VERY GOOD SOLUTION OF ATLEAST ONE " ;D

bye. >:(

SO LONG FEL;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 22, 2010, 10:15:14 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 22, 2010, 01:41:05 AM
Using some what? Nature timing?

Would this be more correct... i'm just using a very simple components as much as possible like what tesla is using in his days. but for the sake of size i'm using some Nature timing. =]

Mags

yES! of course, cause we have to use in our device were it is behaving better ok; ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 23, 2010, 03:26:57 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 22, 2010, 09:59:40 PM
@forest

CHEEEEEEERS! :)

just teach mags what you have bud. ;)

That is what i'm saying, in time you got it, then thats the time you realize what i'm saying is right. isn't it?

i think what you need now is a refinement of your design and some correct materials and places for components and that is i think where we have to be differ if whose the best design ok; ;D

Just last tip: it is better for our device that it can able to receive or detect signals easily so that the source is stable ok ;)

No more tips now, just try and think which is best or correct materials ok.

now you have the version one of tesla's amplifier.
the second one is more brilliant. => rolling stone ice just notice how nature works.

sir wattsup is very correct for we have 1 volt forever but that is a long method.
but here is what i say "THERE IS ALWAYS A BETTER WAY" ;D AND "THERE IS ALWAYS A VERY GOOD SOLUTION OF ATLEAST ONE " ;D

bye. >:(

SO LONG FEL;D

Tito
I think you are talking about "ring twice" version as a second one ,right ?
My device is not working as I wish right now ,no OU, the speed of motor is not stable and I have problems to make it like Adams motor nature timing ;D because my magnets are glued on top cd disc not on edge, have to build wood handle for pushing coil above disc.
also reed switch that one with inert gas inside is not good >:( sparking probably to weak for my 400V capacitor discharge.
but... I have so many ideas .... :D

have to find a nice big cap maybe 10000 uF 50V hmm ???
also would that be nice : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC8-o1jm5Zo ?

damn I'm so slow in building anything >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 23, 2010, 04:43:53 PM

Ring Twice? Is that refering to how many cycles that we let hapen before we kickit again?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 23, 2010, 05:38:07 PM

Here is a sim circuit that I just put up for Gyula on another thread.

It uses my precharge circuit from early on with the addition of a diode to let the inductors flywheel action pump a cap to higher voltage than the source, without the extra that is above the source voltage coming from the source, as I described it earlier.

Its a very simple circuit. If we hold the switch till the cap is full, all of the energy comes from the source, even if the cap is higher in voltage than the source, because of the inductors flywheel effect.

But lets say we release the switch when the cap is at 20v, the inductor is not done yet, flywheel action, and starts to pull the charge from the other side of the cap instead of the source, through the additional diode near the source. The amount of energy to charge the cap to 20v in this manor is equal to charging the cap manually to 20v. But here we use the inductors inertia, to pump the cap to a higher voltage than the source AFTER cutting off the source, anything higher than 20v in the cap is free. Guaranteedy. =]

$ 1 5.0E-6 0.551975421667673 57 5.0 43
s 640 192 704 192 0 1 true
c 432 464 640 464 0 1.4999999999999999E-5 9.999999999999332E-4
v 704 464 704 192 0 0 40.0 20.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
r 640 464 704 464 0 1.0
l 432 192 640 192 0 1.0 6.39679282863122E-23
d 432 192 432 464 1 0.805904783
d 640 464 640 192 1 0.805904783
o 2 8 0 35 20.0 9.765625E-5 0 -1
o 1 8 0 35 0.009765625 9.765625E-5 1 -1

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on October 23, 2010, 07:05:46 PM

Almost same setup I have on the desk right now(the triger is mosfet and timing is variable by me), and i can say: that intertia of the inductor will charge teh capacitor better (higer value) when you keep it flow acros batery like clasical joulthief, it suck more charges from the batery, tension of the batery+ tension on the inductor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 23, 2010, 07:16:19 PM

Mags,
Over here post # 24 from allcanadian
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=261.msg6042;topicseen#msg6042

Interesting excerpt

" Now if as many believe, the input must be equal to the output then why do I get two equal outputs from only one input?"
------------------------------------

Some other even more interesting comments

Sounds like what you are saying?
Their Trying to get a schem.

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 23, 2010, 07:27:40 PM

Quote from: IWD on October 23, 2010, 07:05:46 PM
Almost same setup I have on the desk right now(the triger is mosfet and timing is variable by me), and i can say: that intertia of the inductor will charge teh capacitor better (higer value) when you keep it flow acros batery like clasical joulthief, it suck more charges from the batery, tension of the batery+ tension on the inductor.

very cool IWD

Can you show some pics? All my stuff is in boxes. It will probably be some of the first things I unpack. Soon.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on October 23, 2010, 07:38:33 PM

Well I do not have camera right now, so I can only post a scheme. so here it is. In that schema is already recorded another device which periodicaly dischrage the capactitor, for reason of automation.

-Now I am tested diferent coils, and it seems that the another diod do not have big influence, when I decrease the time of the pulse, the voltage on the capacitor is also smaler and smaler.Stil is best when you keep the pulse width, which cover all proces in the inductor.(like when you conect it manualy.)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 23, 2010, 07:57:48 PM

Hmmm IWD I will have to look at this a bit to figure what is going on.

I will give you a schematic of something you can try, and I will include the items you present to design it.

Thanks for the drawing. everything counts. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 23, 2010, 09:09:31 PM

Here is a cool vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44iT-wtj-o0

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on October 23, 2010, 09:39:44 PM

:) it is instructive, but explanation is easy, on the outuput of the bifiliar every time when you see a spark, is discharged a capacitance which is in bifilar coil very high in contras of inductance, point is: that output have lower discharge frequency than input because charging the capacitance take time, so we can say it is frequency transformer. But power is same or smaler on the output like on input.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 24, 2010, 06:48:38 AM

Hi Mags,

Thanks for the circuit list, it works in the Falstad simulator (I have only the online version but it is ok) and gives indeed higher than 20V in the capacitor after the switch is off at near the 20V charging level.

I would like to suggest to replace the 20V source with a 15uF capacitor, precharged to 20V also and then see how the LC circuit swings energy...
Perhaps the LTSpice circuit simulator used by IWD could be a better choice for simulating it? I included your Falstad schematic here for IWD in case he could enter it with a 15uF precharged cap instead of the 20V voltage source. This way can get closer to the real behaviour of the interesting circuit, obviously the final proof is to build it and test.
Nevertheless, if LTSpice simulations give promising results and optimization is also performed in it by adjusting switch on time etc then hands-on tests are done more readily. Use realistic loss resistor for the 1H or other value coil in the simulator.

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pese on October 24, 2010, 07:26:17 AM

Each

Step-Up-Converter
(Boost Power Stages)
is made this way.

only Choke Diode Condensor and switch is needed.

(look Wikipediia or electronc forums.

NOT any Overunity.

The step up of volgage , bring the same (as losses) in amperages !!

The wattage (Energy will not amplified ! , tey will
allso lossing 5 to 15% typically)

Pese

www.alt-nrg.de/pppp

alternative link collections

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 24, 2010, 12:47:03 PM

Hey Gyula

Ya know, adding that diode just came to me yesterday as we were posting each other. You are right about needing the resistance added for the inductor. Today I dont have much time, but will be back in the bench this week some time. It was just another idea that I have to add to all this.
I will be on the computer over the next few days till I get settled.

Hey Pese

The circuit was put up yesterday in another thread just to demonstrate that in reality, the collapsing field of a coil does not necessarily produce bemf. In order to produce bemf, the coils field would have to change polarity. Like in an ac generator, as the field builds on the coil, a positive voltage increases to peak, then as the field declines, slow "collapse", the positive voltage declines to zero then when the field reverses, only then will we get a negative voltage. Make sense? So how does the collapse if the field in a coil produce bemf? ;]

Then I had the idea of if when we disconnect the source, how could we loop the circuit to let the coil continue to charge the cap further without the source. Hence the looping diode.

Lets face it, even in a perfect world of inductors and caps, we still dont have overunity, in standard demonstrations, just unity, err infinite running. So if in a perfect world, where the coils have no resistance, my circuit with the looping diode does show overunity. Thats a good start.

As I explained to Gyula yesterday, lets say we were to charge the cap to 20v directly from the source, there would in theory be an equal transfer of energy, unity, same out as in. But in my circuit, if the source is 20v and we cut off the source during the incline at 20v, and the inductor continues to pump the cap to a higher voltage than the source, with the looping diode, that extra is free.

I have a lot going on here with the move, but I am always thinking and visualizing as I go, multitasking. =]
As to how to utilize that extra is the key now. Even if it were only 21v gotten to the cap via the loop, that 1 extra volt is free. Any thing free is a good thing, no? Im sure there is room for improvement. =]

Im not saying this is Titos way, it is a form of energy amplification, even if it is .5% thus far, of which I am lowering it to that value of increase to show an example.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on October 24, 2010, 02:02:21 PM

hm...Mags, in reality the caps wil do not charge more when you open the switch, I test it. (even with another charged capacitor as source) I mean not more, than when you keep it without the diode, and leve the curent stop by himself. The LT spice simulator I am using only to make schematics and to confirm measured data from osciloscope. When you know how to set it, it is very precise simulation. But Reality is always original. So I say it once again, if you have let say batery 12v and conect capacitor in series with induction and diode, the capacitor will charge about 19-21 volt but in case when you use another diode and open the switch early before current stop by himself, the voltage will be smaler than 19v.
Only usefuly point is What to do next whit capacitor easily charged higer than source.

-one more thing, When you use charged capacitor to 20v as source instead using batery. that Lets say if second capacitor will have same capacity, then in best case you will have first capacitor almost empty let say about 1,4v and the second will have 18,4. Of course you can end wit half votage on both capacitors or any other combination which depednd mostly on size of inductance in clasic case, or on time of opening switch on case presented by you,(in that case you can also end for example: first on -7v and second on 13v) It does not matter, because energy will be always same.In case which first capacitor will be bigger than second you can end with letsay, first on 15v and second on 30v. for example is first 15uf second 100n, but still is same energy with little loos.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 24, 2010, 04:43:44 PM

Hey IWD

Very good IWD. So you have tried the precharge circuit and confirmed it that the inductor(flywheel in motion), does continue to charge the cap beyond the source, due to the collapse of the field, and shows no signs of BEMF, Reverse emf nor counter emf, just forward emf and when dissipated to the cap through the diode comes to rest.
This is important to understand. It defines the ability for the inductor to act as a flywheel. Add a cap and the flywheel is offset, the weight of the flywheel is offset, to represent a pendulum action, as this video uses the comparison also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKjUzsNj8NM&feature=fvw

This vid demonstrates a way to kick the pendulum at the proper time to follow the oscillation naturally, "nature timing" as Teets tips. =] And Forest gets credit for this find. =] Thanks forest and Teets. Good Guys. ;]

Now, I cant be sure yet, but I have a notion to believe that we may be able to keep the flywheel(inductor) going by Kicking it also. I dont know if Teets or anyone would agree, but its a notion or theory.
But this vid above sort of says a lot, according to what Teets Tips say to us.

Iwd, if you wish to go any further or try and expand upon the precharge circuit, please do. I will once I get settled here, err there, Im not there yet. lol

I try to get back on here at OU as much as I can for the time being. I just leave the laptop on all day with the page ready to read or reply.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 24, 2010, 10:06:15 PM

Quote from: forest on October 23, 2010, 03:26:57 AM

Tito
I think you are talking about "ring twice" version as a second one ,right ?

No. i'm talking about one small kick then a controlled spontaneous action begins.

the first one is the ten watts cap into thousands and thousands convertion.

i thought we got it already. :(

i actually discovered another one but just little similarity with the first one

"The multiple caps with the same volts but unlimited"

To open the door to unlimited source of energy we just need to have a hot tripillar coil. 8)

don't worry i am now planning to show a vid of mine, and i am the actor ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 24, 2010, 10:31:55 PM

HA
I knew it!!
Teetsla's A movie star!!
So Handsome------->>>>>>> ;D

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on October 25, 2010, 07:15:17 AM

To mags

Well I am sorry, I was misunderstood what you want to confirm. If You want to understood the coil as flywheel so be it, but that already show Romerouk on many pages before.(diode acros pulsing coil) you can cleary see it by osciloscope conected on that coil when you decrease space betwen pulses (betwen kicking) the flywheel will rotate more, so also negative spikes will be more powerfull, bigger voltage. When you place diode as romero, or as is in relay, the curent in coil will also flow more, because inertia of current have way where can flow(flywheel can rotate)
Point is that in both case take more current from battery.
And Polarity of the coil is always changing, in feeding you can measure on coil tension from source, and when source stop, then you can measure tension from inertia in coil+colapsing magnetic field, both have same direction, so seems that is changed but it is relative from where you measured it beacause direction of current remains same. (direction of flywheel remains)
Only when you have secondary, then on it is changed polarity and also current direction.

"There is always many ways how to look on same thing" for example if you will listen a japanese man talking about physics you can listen about year and you will do not udersnatd. But if he show to you a pictures and schemes then you will quickly understand (pictures can be more than thousand words)
And when someone is trying to explain his discovery in his way of understanding. And even more...if he cover it by fog of his own puzzles like Tito do. Then nobody will really understand. But there is a video promise, so mabybe we se the part of Clothes from story of "Emperor's New Clothes" which reminds my this situation here.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 25, 2010, 12:57:12 PM

Hey IWD

Many do not know this about inductors. Read this recent thead, the first post, as Chris claims that the collapsing field is what creates the reverse emf, or flyback. But its not so, as you have pointed out that you already know this. http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9875.0
There are possibly many thousands of people watching this thread, some who want to learn because they are beginners. Everyone needs to know the way things work. Some here at OU may not have known this and until they do, they may never understand every way to use an inductor. Heck, up untill recently, I thought that the field collapse is what caused bemf, just like chris explained it. Even if the books back then probably described it the way I now know it now, but we were told things as we were learning it that had us thinking otherwise. Why would that be? Everyone I knew back then came away with the same understanding as chris, and I, thinking that the collapse caused bemf . Did you know before you read Romerouk? =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on October 25, 2010, 01:24:02 PM

sure

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: penno64 on October 25, 2010, 04:07:22 PM

Hi,
Where is this ROMEROUK to read, please ?

Regards, Penno

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on October 25, 2010, 09:02:20 PM

Quote from: penno64 on October 25, 2010, 04:07:22 PM
Hi,
Where is this ROMEROUK to read, please ?

Regards, Penno

Here is his very first post:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.msg237728#msg237728

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 28, 2010, 11:49:50 AM

Mags
@All
Look!!
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=397.msg6133;topicseen#msg6133

Chet
PS
Teetsla ,
My popcorn is getting cold,whens the movie start?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 30, 2010, 06:10:47 AM

Quote from: ramset on October 28, 2010, 11:49:50 AM
Mags
@All
Look!!
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=397.msg6133;topicseen#msg6133

Chet
PS
Teetsla ,
My popcorn is getting cold,whens the movie start?

don't worry chet i'm workin on it.

in a way suitable for everyone ok.

i will show my bedini version and the simplified version.

sooooo very busy.................

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Samuel_Lee on October 30, 2010, 01:35:30 PM

I really like this article? ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 31, 2010, 02:21:08 PM

Please do one thing : download animation from Bearden page http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm
and extract all frames. Then tell me what is going on ??! :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 31, 2010, 09:02:31 PM

It seems that forest gave it everything, i think no need for me to show my movie, cause that is the one of the main secret of my ingredient.

Remember the tip i gave you using this technique making only one arm is moving. mags had a success on it ok.

Always think for efficiency ok.

Discharge a cap on a very thick wire coiled in a bifillar form is very efficient making a very powerful magnetic field ok.

Imagination is the limit. no one can limit us from using a lot of caps, coils, batteries ok.

Series and parallel technique in input and output can do it more powerful.

This is for the world ladies and gentlemen. i love you all brother.

Here is what i notice here in this site, once they discover something good then they will stop digging to that so others will stop dig on that also they will divert us to other topic. SHAME ON YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Base all to Tesla, still its the superior and original and working.
Study and experiment well Take care and goodluck !!! and congratulation ;D

If i will tell everything then no more excitement, let it be discover by yourself ok.
I will just keep, at least i'm telling you the rolling stone ice ok. ;D

Bye. i have to escape and leave you now. ;D

I'll just return and answer when i want ok ;D

If anyone want to see and contact me, sorry i'm not available. ;D

ALL FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND!!!
Noicaro L. Otit a.k.a. Teetsla ;D From Philippines;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 31, 2010, 09:27:40 PM

Teetsla
Remember ! If we can run the refrigerator on a watch battery!
Chaloopa says you get free car washes "forever"!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 31, 2010, 09:57:28 PM

Thanks for the help teets. =] Just one more thing. ;] which success did I have? lol
I suppose I will have to find it. Ill be back on the bench this week, well, I will have a bench. =]

Im just working from my noodle for now. and sim play.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 31, 2010, 10:00:07 PM

To power up a ref from a button cell is so simple ok. Tesla and teetsla will not spend a lot of money building the magnifying transmitter in colorado if there is no solution to that ok ;)

The controlled spontaneous action is the solution. ;D

Love you chet bye ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 31, 2010, 10:04:38 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 31, 2010, 09:57:28 PM
Thanks for the help teets. =] Just one more thing. ;] which success did I have? lol
I suppose I will have to find it. Ill be back on the bench this week, well, I will have a bench. =]

Im just working from my noodle for now. and sim play.

Mags

The video you showed one time that discharges a cap from battery into a fan ok.

if you can't remember it then its ok. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 31, 2010, 10:09:37 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fK0m5mDxbw

This one?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 31, 2010, 10:14:50 PM

oh ya thanks mags, but it needs some minor modification but that is the main idea. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 31, 2010, 10:22:24 PM

ok I just watched it a couple times and see some things to add or change already. Almost forgot about that one.

Ill give her another go soon here. Thanks teets.

Man I was sleepy in that vid. lol

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 31, 2010, 11:42:37 PM

Just a small note that I made an avi of JLNaudins animation as requested by @foster. It was a 12 frame gif animation. Just exported to AVI. It gives you total frames over 10 seconds. It will give you a timeline basis.

I opened an energy-amplification directory on my ftp site and put it there.

http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Overunity.com%20-%20Forum%20members/energy-amplification/foster/JLNaudin/

Enjoy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 01, 2010, 07:31:59 AM

thanks wattsup

Exactly what is this frame about ?
I have a theory that maybe it is using BEMF as a forward current after store it inside capacitor so we have two for one arm (switch) moving - FEMF and then converted BEMF. Again that would be very easy to check - just get any DC-DC booster the simplest the better (which is exactly Tesla igniter patent just with diode and cap to store BEMF) - then add a transformer on a return line and check if the sum from transformer and a booster is more then just a booster energy (DC-DC booster is 95% efficient alone)
Or help me arrange coil,transformer,diode(s) and cap to use FEMF and BEMF together on the same transformer.
P.S.
here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Boost_conventions.svg L can be transformer with secondary and diode bridge ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 01, 2010, 07:48:29 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 31, 2010, 10:09:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fK0m5mDxbw

This one?

Mags

Mags

Schematic please !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pese on November 01, 2010, 08:15:13 AM

In this way - only possibel
stepping up voltage
BY lost of AMPERAGES !!

so not Power (Energy in Watts)
can be amplified.

SO: NOT WAY !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Boost_circuit.png
is only: Inverter

Gustav Pese

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on November 01, 2010, 10:06:12 AM

There is one big difference with this circuit from many you will see.

In most circuits, there is only one side of a capacitor that is switched to charge it and one side of a coil to discharge it. This circuit uses both sides. So what is the difference. This means the cap or load is not pre-biased to one polarity before the other one hits it. Both hit at the same time and from my own experience this shoots up the voltage higher then the applied voltage to the capacitor which is standard stuff in itself. Also this halves any spark development since it is shared by both contacts.

If the load is inductive enough, it will then discharge back into the cap when it is disconnected and the cap will discharge into the source when it is connected to source. So you have three actions, one when the contact is on the source, one when the contact is off both and one when the contact is on load.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 01, 2010, 01:00:38 PM

hey Forest

Here is the circuit as close as I can make it in the sim. I replaced the fan with a light bulb as sim has no motors.
The resistor is there for circuit sake as you cannot charge a cap directly from source in sim.
This is the igniter circuit variation without the large inductor, as seen in the vid, I did not have it in the circuit.

It is just charge cap and discharge cap. My supposed large inductor was not good for this circuit, as the results were less than seen in the vid. I am going to work on this as soon as possible. ;)

$ 1 5.0E-6 9.384708165144016 50 5.0 43
v 704 464 704 192 0 0 40.0 12.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
160 624 256 624 192 0 0.0010 1.0E10
w 704 192 640 192 0
T 544 288 432 208 0 4.0 10.0 5.4093160728463374E-8 0.004721571497796666 0.999
w 608 192 544 192 0
w 544 192 544 288 0
w 544 464 544 368 0
c 624 256 624 416 0 0.0056 11.999999999980913
w 544 464 624 464 0
w 624 416 624 464 0
r 624 464 704 464 0 0.01
181 432 368 432 288 0 1888.451381189791 1.0 113.0 0.4 0.4
w 608 224 576 224 0
R 576 224 576 320 0 1 68.0 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.5

At lunch BBL

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 01, 2010, 01:02:51 PM

Hey Watts

Thanks for the help. ;] I do have software to do this stuff but it is all on my pc packed away.

Again, thanks.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on November 01, 2010, 02:14:52 PM

Tito, I must admit, that for a while I believed you display some video, or just "something" what I do not see before, and I can begin dig in it. But after 30 pages there is still nothing, and nothing will be.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 01, 2010, 03:43:02 PM

Tesla patent 462418

"First if a condenser or conductor possessing capacity be charged from a suitable generator and discharged through a circuit , the discharge under certain conditions will be of an intermittent or oscillatory character"

can someone enlighten me about "CERTAIN CONDITIONS" ?

That would allow me to convert one inductive kick into many capacitive kicks ,right ?

And I'm not cheating ...I really do not know what Tesla named as "certain conditions" but I feel it is crucial to have working device. Well, maybe he said about disruptive discharge ? Interesting indeed.
Later he said that there is of tremendous advantage to break at the peak of wave and again that may be related.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 01, 2010, 10:04:47 PM

Quote from: IWD on November 01, 2010, 02:14:52 PM
Tito, I must admit, that for a while I believed you display some video, or just "something" what I do not see before, and I can begin dig in it. But after 30 pages there is still nothing, and nothing will be.

@IWD

Oh YA! :D

Sorry sir but sometimes you have to think also that there is always a reason why things can't happen anymore, but the important there is I have given everyone something he can use to dig ok. NOW! if still can't get it then sorry its not my problem anymore. I'm not saying in my word that you have to believe me but believe to Tesla since i'm not credible to everyone here, first of all i'm not getting anything here. so just consider me as an encourager ok.

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 01, 2010, 10:23:59 PM

Quote from: forest on November 01, 2010, 03:43:02 PM
Tesla patent 462418

"First if a condenser or conductor possessing capacity be charged from a suitable generator and discharged through a circuit , the discharge under certain conditions will be of an intermittent or oscillatory character"

can someone enlighten me about "CERTAIN CONDITIONS" ?

That would allow me to convert one inductive kick into many capacitive kicks ,right ?

And I'm not cheating ...I really do not know what Tesla named as "certain conditions" but I feel it is crucial to have working device. Well, maybe he said about disruptive discharge ? Interesting indeed.
Later he said that there is of tremendous advantage to break at the peak of wave and again that may be related.

Hi! brother forest how is the jungle? ;D joke

Let me give you something what i understand about CERTAIN CONDITIONS.

In computer languages like in C programming there are certain conditions before a procedure or a function will execute or a certain task will execute, So we have to validate some what material to use, if made of material is efficient, if components are balance and if they are in right place then if these conditions were met correct then its always 'right time' to do that task.

There is a tremendous advantage to break at the peak of wave, YES! because if you break at the peak, the secondary will be ENERGIZE at that peak so there is a tremendous gain in there. and that is also part of some CERTAIN CONDITIONS.

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 02, 2010, 07:39:28 PM

Well Im breakin out the box of goodies for the evening. I am eager to try some things, moving or not. =]

Here is a vid I did a while back using reeds and coils to make an oscillator to boost voltage Caveman style to run Agent Gates coil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOMzSpPHFo0

But I am going to use it to charge a cap, and the cap voltage is stepped up every oscillation till max cap charge is reached. If you watch the vid, the small yellow cap on the breadboard is being charged from the oscillator through the 2 blue caps then to the bridge rect. The small disassembled relay coil on the bread board, has resistors in series so that the coil does not fire the reed till the yel caps voltage reaches about 30 to 35 v. Then that reed dumps the cap to the transformer primary. This setups source was 5v.

Now what I will attempt is to use 12v on the oscillator to get over 100v into a cap, and a dpdt relay, with contacts in parallel to decrease the resistance for the cap dump (should last twice as long as a single contact), and use the same method to activate the relay as in the vid.

Just gota give it a shot. Wish me luck. The transformer I will use is a 110v to 12v center tapped out. I am going to try both directions to see what we can see.

Another thing, this transformer is from a UPS for pc power. It has multiple conductors on each leg of the 12v side.
After tests as is, I think I can separate the leads to make that side of the transformer bifi. Is it worth the try? =]

Should have at least some pics later. Just getting things I need setup. Only to tear it down tomorrow, maybe. ;]
I cant get away from this stuff.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 02, 2010, 08:30:07 PM

Well, well, well, that's exciting, goodluck, good day, goodnight, and goodbye ;D

Congratulation everyone !!!!!

it's me Tito L. Oracion From
Philippines Now signing off Bye ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 02, 2010, 09:21:51 PM

TEETS!!! Why byby teets? why not HiHi. :P

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 02, 2010, 09:31:50 PM

Sorry i have to drink my milk first my mama is signing off ;D

:P :P

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 02, 2010, 09:51:51 PM

:P

Yer Mama made a good boy.

Thanks teets

Magluvin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 03, 2010, 02:07:40 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwWhaEPygp8

This is the first half. Just the cap charge circuit. I am putting diodes in for the reed, I wanted things to be visual.

Tomorrow will use a smaller cap and get the relay and transformer going.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on November 03, 2010, 05:55:49 AM

Hey teets,,

Do you have any idea on how kapanadze generator works? Or maybe you replicated it already?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pese on November 03, 2010, 06:39:19 AM

Kapanaze,
good idea
but
have never worked
with overunity !
only losses !

Pese

------------------

Give attentention to this here:

Many yaers ago , IN A TREAD (overunity.com)

copied NOW:

ps: just another theory in the right direction.
pese:
GIVE attention to test voltages from NON Sinus (or DC) Sources.

http://www.padrak.com/ine/DANGERSPOWER.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 03, 2010, 08:10:05 AM

pese

more faith please

Earth is revolving around Sun with high speed and there is a lot of dead electrons around we cannot see
collapsing magnetic field North pole is the answer how to disturb them and when they return to ambient background there is a useful energy

now the problem is only to find the working circuit which everybody could replicate

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on November 03, 2010, 10:22:32 AM

Now the things are getting better around here, because we have good teachers sharing their knowledge.

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on November 03, 2010, 10:33:50 AM

Thank you Jesus
Yes I agree
Good things happen when we

"have good teachers sharing their knowledge."

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nueview on November 03, 2010, 12:39:48 PM

it will get harder to pull more voltage as you approach the diode reverse bias voltage as it will blead back the current. adding additional diodes will increase the reverse bias potential.
Martin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: slapper on November 05, 2010, 12:44:46 AM

bump

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 31, 2010, 09:02:31 PM
Discharge a cap on a very thick wire coiled in a bifillar form is very efficient making a very powerful magnetic field ok.

Imagination is the limit. no one can limit us from using a lot of caps, coils, batteries ok.

Series and parallel technique in input and output can do it more powerful.

;D

nap

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 05, 2010, 09:47:05 PM

hey All

Havnt been able to do much till now. My roomate had a scooter accident and is pretty banged up. And I needed to fix my ebike charger.

Been thinking though. I think there is a better way to produce the cap charge. But I will get to that after the experiment with what I have started. Im going to get back on it tonight.

I was repairing my electric bike charger last night, going over the circuitry, im thinking that the cap charger can be done with transistor switching to a good degree, and use the relay for cap dump. At least till I figure a better way.

I am going to fiddle with the charge circuit a bit more till I am satisfied then apply the relay and transformer.
I did fiddle a bit more the other night, and I might have a couple component changes, as in inductor, cap and diodes. My big coils are heavy on the reeds, in Vibreedo mode, so Im going more turns and thinner awg wire. Cap may stay the same but more likely bigger than 68u. Diodes, I picked up a bunch of 1kv from radshack. The bridge was 400v I believe.

I feel free a bit. My time has been taken from me a lot lately. Its my birthday and the weekend. And I am going to celebrate by continuing here. =]

Thanks for the tip Nue, good ta see ya back around. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 08, 2010, 07:06:54 PM

Well. Im not being impressed with what I have. Actually this transformer is not performing anything like I thought it would. Ive been trying different things, but maybe Ive been doing it wrong.

Was thinking at work today, and came up with 2 things that lead me to a possible finish line.

First thing, I built a relay pulser circuit for my boss, as his brother in law wants flames to come out of his exaust with a sparking mechanism. The relay was set up so that the normally closed contacts sent power to the relay coil to switch the contacts, and oscillates at about 60hz with a 10 uf cap across the coil to elongate the relay activation time, so when the relay is fully activated, it sends gnd to the spark coil as would an ignition system. My sparks were very weak.
So I tried a condenser across the contacts and bam! big 2 in sparks. But thats not the interesting part, when I applied the spark to a spark plug, without the condenser, a very fine line spark was visible, but with the condenser, there were many sparks next to each other, as if the condenser, cap, was oscillating with the coils primary and producing multiple sparks. So the cap across the points, or contacts are not just for rf interference purposes, or just for preserving the contacts, though it does both, but mostly its to produce oscillation in the primary. So in the Igniter pat, I see the cap and primary oscillating after(during) discharge, not just simple discharge.
In my spark coil project, the primaries in those coils are about 1 ohm. Seems like a bit more ohms than we are possibly seeing in Kapanadze wiring, or even Don Smith or even Tesla. I was amazed to visually see it. 1 thin quick spark vs multiple sparks that was over a greater course of time vs thin spark.

Second thing. Bifi coils. I have done some experiments with a few with results that had shown no difference. So I set that idea down for a bit. Something came to me on something I had read a while back. Tito has claimed trifi and bifi, with his last statement that the bifi gives greater magnetic field than a normal coil, of which is also what I had read. As for what came to me was that tesla said that the higher the voltage discharged into the bifi, the better the effect was in the advantages of using bifi. So this is where and why we will need high voltage discharge from the cap, because the bifi is a non linear amplifier of sorts. The higher the input the greater the multiple applied to the bifi effect. A normal transformer is probably just that, normal as we know it.

So with both things in mind, I would say that we would want the cap to remain across the coil for some time to oscillate, no? Charge cap, discharge cap, hold and oscillate, then kick again.

Im working on that tonight. The transformer I have , I will try separating the secondary pairs to try and convert it to bifi, of which I think it will work. If not, I will post results and a vid to show wuts uP and move on to a home made transformer with a bifi primary.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Sprocket on November 08, 2010, 08:24:52 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 08, 2010, 07:06:54 PM
.....Second thing. Bifi coils. I have done some experiments with a few with results that had shown no difference. So I set that idea down for a bit. Something came to me on something I had read a while back. Tito has claimed trifi and bifi, with his last statement that the bifi gives greater magnetic field than a normal coil, of which is also what I had read. As for what came to me was that tesla said that the higher the voltage discharged into the bifi, the better the effect was in the advantages of using bifi. So this is where and why we will need high voltage discharge from the cap, because the bifi is a non linear amplifier of sorts. The higher the input the greater the multiple applied to the bifi effect. A normal transformer is probably just that, normal as we know it......

Hi. Is this what you are referring to;

http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/bifilar_electromagnet.htm (http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/bifilar_electromagnet.htm)

If so, it doesn't work - tried it!

Jean Louis Naudin even referenced this link in one of his articles, (which was the reason I tried the 2-nail experiment to begin with) and as I subscribe to his Yahoo group, I tried posting about this but seems to have been 'moderated' out of existence... Strange group, you get no posts for months, then a flood of them will come, then nothing again...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 08, 2010, 08:46:26 PM

Here is a vid my friend made a while back. It is a quad fi coil. He shows the effects described.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbFqVh7GdGk

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 09, 2010, 06:14:02 PM

Ive been studying a bit.
I have this pat. from Tesla http://www.keelynet.com/tesla/00512340.htm
Its a short read. Right now Im looking for the debate, i think, of Tesla on the subject. This is where he claims the higher the voltage, the effect becomes greater.

The pat explains the bifi coil. He claims that it increases the self capacitance greatly and reduces self inductance.
Now I can see the capacitance thing working out, as each turn has a 50% difference in source potential to adjacent windings.
But decreasing self inductance, this must mean reducing the Henries of the coil as a whole. How would we calculate that? I suppose we would have to measure it to see where she rings.
And I would assume that lower self inductance means more instantaneous discharge current from the cap.

So this coil should ring shorted, once kicked, like an lc, but with greater capacitance than just a normally wound coil by itself. Now I can see why we would need to disconnect the discharge cap at peak, to get the best results.

Im working on getting a larger discharge cap up to 50v or so to pulse the transformer. In my vid running the ac induction fan, I was just charging 5600uf cap to 12v. I figure at 50v, the fan should really take off.
I need to do this to post the part 2 vid as some are waiting, and then make hard changes..

So I think the bifi is a key ingredient here.

After these projects I want to rewind a dc motor bifi. Get 2, convert 1 and test. Something my Great grandfather did has me thinking. If the motor gets a stronger mag field on the coils than a regular winding, then it should produce more torque at no extra expense. If the motor normally is 90% eff. maybe we can get something here.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on November 09, 2010, 06:31:53 PM

Bifilar wound coil simply can contain more energy than normal coil, Thus that also bigger magnetic field. But it simply take the energy from source, as you are charging the capacitance betwen wires. That is the point of that patent, you simply can deliver more energy to that coil, which is not possible in normal coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Sprocket on November 09, 2010, 07:38:29 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 08, 2010, 08:46:26 PM
Here is a vid my friend made a while back. It is a quad fi coil. He shows the effects described.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbFqVh7GdGk

Mags

Seems I'm easily confused, are these bi-filar or ordinary coils? - the guy doesn't mention bifilar at all! And his description at the end is less than clear - why didn't he just state the battery voltage & current for both setups. Also, with regard to the link I posted, that guy states that a bifilar-wound coil (double the wire length, so twice the resistance) will result in a doubling of the magnetic field (the way he winds it, it doesn't!), whereas your guy states that quadrupling (or times-eight if they're bifilar) the length results in only a doubling of the magnetic field...

At least it's good to see a working example of an increase in magnet field when the coil resistance also has increased. Of course I have yet to figure out how to wind a coil that displays this myself...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 09, 2010, 08:28:09 PM

I am working on it sprocket. Maybe the mag field is just during charging then comes to rest at standard level. Duno yet. That vid is kinda old and he is still working on it.
But If I get a working example going, I will bring it to the table. Like I said, I played with a couple examples and didnt care for the results. So I am entering this again with as little as I can tell ya.

It says in the pat. and looks like, the conductors have a fair amount of insulation on them. Teets has mentioned using speaker wire, of which can make winding a bifi a bit easier, and just stupid simple if its just 1 layer. I dont really imagine a 500 turn bifi primary here, but who knows. ;]

As for discharging into a primary that is part of a transformer that is a step uP transformer, there must be some efficiency in doing so, as many claims seem to follow this routine. Then we use step down to get user voltages. That is the ONLY thing I can come up with as for a reason to charge a cap to a high voltage, then dump it into a primary of a step uP transformer.

Maybe it has to do with how the secondary affects the wind down oscillations of the primary. Example, if it were a step down, the primary will oscillate for a shorter time according to how much the step down is.

This is me just thinking here. Im trying to put all these clues together to make sense of why they say or do this in the circuit. But there must be reasons..

I watched a Don Smith vid explaining his table top setup. Some of the things he says, at times has ya thinking, hmmm, he dont really know how it works. But maybe thats his way of explaining without divulging too much on tape. But he was certain that it was important to step up the voltage at the transformer first, then reduce for use.

Any thoughts?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 10, 2010, 02:58:27 AM

Don Smith knew how it works.Simply disconnecting cap-coil at peak in proper way makes long running oscillations and repeating the same at the correct moment makes it continous. It took Tesla a few years to make it continous so we should be kind to ourselves.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 10, 2010, 03:00:21 AM

Questions: how we can shift phase of electric wave ? I have to move it forward by 90 degrees for example . I would explain it later what I'm trying to do

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on November 10, 2010, 03:54:41 AM

Guys,
would you like to examine this short thread once again, it's only 17 replies; it could be quite beneficial:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7513.0

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 10, 2010, 04:21:59 AM

OK EVERYONE PLEASE LISTEN :'(

In this thread, the questions should be:

a) How to convert small kicks into big kicks, this is known already ok? now!

b) The second is How to convert one kick into multiple kicks ???

Now! that is simple ok, if you can't get that!, I don't know to you!!!!@!@#@#$#@

sample of one kick into multiple kicks :=> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hm3O3jRKW4&feature=related
i am sure that no one is prohibiting us to add many more disk ok?.

Like this one=> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fldu5l8_Ips&feature=related
oh gussssssh this is ovious! :o

sprocket! i'm independent here, i don't have groups, i don't know everyone.
if you can't make it run by you then don't be very suspicious ok, your very wrong my friend we are all basing everything here from tesla, so its not my word ok. don't believe me but tesla!

Goodbye! astalavista baby ;)

ps. my footstep are being watch ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 10, 2010, 02:57:26 PM

damn

Tito , you mean many in series yet still parallel ?
Trifillar used in non common way ? :o :o :o
'Atta way baby!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: grizli on November 10, 2010, 03:40:05 PM

http://www.hcrs.at/KAPTRAFO.HTM

Tito read, and comment this :D

and this

http://tesla3.com/free_websites/zpe_baumann_testatika.html

http://www.rexresearch.com/testatik/schemat1.jpg

So how is actually Testatica related to TC ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on November 10, 2010, 05:43:18 PM

What about this idea???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBPCUdGA-AI&feature=related

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 11, 2010, 02:04:01 AM

Quote from: forest on November 10, 2010, 02:57:26 PM
damn

Tito , you mean many in series yet still parallel ?
Trifillar used in non common way ? :o :o :o
'Atta way baby!

@forest
Hmmmmmm........
your really gettin good ha. ;D

Try to imagine if every kick has let say for example at least one gain then, how much more if more and more. got it? ;D
as i always say your imagination is the limit ok.

see, stprue saw at least one gain thats correct. and that is really exist right?

Always don't forget that there is always a better way of at least one absolute and efficient way ok?

ps: Ok!, we don't actually need a spark gap. or else we will develop a memory gap ;D lol
remember :> silent explosion!

Tito mateti reporting ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on November 11, 2010, 08:10:52 AM

Teetsla
Quote:
Tito mateti reporting ;D
---------------------------
Good to see you happy!!
I hope we can get this?
make some heat! It's getting cold here!
The water's freezing and Chaloopa can't wash cars anymore

:-[

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 11, 2010, 06:03:47 PM

Quote from: forest on November 10, 2010, 03:00:21 AM
Questions: how we can shift phase of electric wave ? I have to move it forward by 90 degrees for example . I would explain it later what I'm trying to do

Forest. You can use a transformer 1 to 1 and use the secondary in phase or out depending on which way you hook it up. Or you can design a filter network that would pass the freq you want, depending on the level of Db per octave cutoff, as in 1 cap in series with a speaker is a high pass at 6Db per octave, and 1 coil in series with the speaker would be lopass at 6db per octave. Now a cap in series then a coil across the speaker will be 12Db cutoff, the add another cap in series after the coil, 18db, another coil across the speaker, 24db.

Db per octave is just an eaxample, but each one, 6, 12 ,18, 24 will apply a different phase to the speaker in reference to the source. I will have to look it up, I cant remember which is 180 deg out of phase. But thats another way to reverse phase, passively.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 11, 2010, 06:18:38 PM

Quote from: Sprocket on November 09, 2010, 07:38:29 PM
Seems I'm easily confused, are these bi-filar or ordinary coils? - the guy doesn't mention bifilar at all! And his description at the end is less than clear - why didn't he just state the battery voltage & current for both setups. Also, with regard to the link I posted, that guy states that a bifilar-wound coil (double the wire length, so twice the resistance) will result in a doubling of the magnetic field (the way he winds it, it doesn't!), whereas your guy states that quadrupling (or times-eight if they're bifilar) the length results in only a doubling of the magnetic field...

At least it's good to see a working example of an increase in magnet field when the coil resistance also has increased. Of course I have yet to figure out how to wind a coil that displays this myself...

That vid was done for me personally to show his progress. He had proven to me that each time he added a coil in series, windings that were all on 1 bobbin wound simultaneously, the resistance went up and the field was stronger. Quadfi. I was debating it with him for a bit as to how he was hooking it up, but he knows what he is doing..

All we can do is try. In that article you posted with the nail electro magnets, I have not tried that yet either, but Im going to. The explanation as I understood it, both nails have 100 turns total, but 1 is 2 x 50 bifi, so the load on the source should be the same, but increased mag field. As for the self capacitance, could it be that the initial currents are increased as compared to normal winding, due to an empty self capacitance and a decreased inductance? But when using dc as the source, I imagine the mag field being the same once the coil is fully charged and currents are the same for each nail. It needs investigating.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on November 11, 2010, 09:37:08 PM

@ All

I have a circuit that will run an NE2 (neon lamp) for a sustained amount of time off an AA battery, the NE2 usually runs from 50 - 90 VAC so what can I do to "amplify" the AC off the NE2 to ~ 1.5 VDC back to source?

I must admit that at this point I haven't tried a feedback mechanism in order to not damage the input circuit.

I thought of feeding the 2 leads off the NE2 to a transformer and/or capacitor and then back to input but how to do it eludes me.

Any ideas from anyone to come up with a feedback circuit would be welcome.

Edit: I forgot to mention that the circuit will sustain the NE2 for a few minutes after an initial charge.

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Sprocket on November 11, 2010, 10:06:42 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 11, 2010, 06:18:38 PM
That vid was done for me personally to show his progress. He had proven to me that each time he added a coil in series, windings that were all on 1 bobbin wound simultaneously, the resistance went up and the field was stronger. Quadfi. I was debating it with him for a bit as to how he was hooking it up, but he knows what he is doing..

All we can do is try. In that article you posted with the nail electro magnets, I have not tried that yet either, but Im going to. The explanation as I understood it, both nails have 100 turns total, but 1 is 2 x 50 bifi, so the load on the source should be the same, but increased mag field. As for the self capacitance, could it be that the initial currents are increased as compared to normal winding, due to an empty self capacitance and a decreased inductance? But when using dc as the source, I imagine the mag field being the same once the coil is fully charged and currents are the same for each nail. It needs investigating.

Mags

The debate about this 'technique' seems like it has been going on for years. What is frustrating is the number of people that turn up, allude that it does indeed work - then leave it at that! Annoying in the extreme...

I guarantee that if you do build the 'nails' experiment as instructed and use DC, it will not work! So the first question I ask, why is a web-site which purports to be honouring Tesla's achievements knowingly peddling false information?

One of the things that is often mentioned by those that say this is viable is that it works with AC only, with no other info forthcoming...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 11, 2010, 11:46:13 PM

I agree Sproc As I am only just now taking big interest in it, even though I have known of its existence for a few months without really digging deep with it.

I would venture to say that the nail itself has some affect on the capacitance of the bifi windings, whether more or less.. Like Captret, there just may be a readable charge between the nail and either coil lead. Dunno yet.

Teets said Cross. Agent Gates coil?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 11, 2010, 11:49:22 PM

Goat

Would have to see the circuit to consider how. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on November 12, 2010, 12:19:14 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 11, 2010, 11:49:22 PM
Goat

Would have to see the circuit to consider how. =]

Mags

@ Mags....thanks for looking in....

Excuse me for not specifying the circuit, it's a cheap 5$ Fujii camera gutted out with the battery running the circuit until the NE2 is pulsating, then I remove the battery and then the circuit sustains the NE2 in a pulsating mode until it runs out.

The circuit is readily available to anyone who purchases a disposable camera so I thought it'd be a good place to start.

Even after taking out the battery the NE2 keeps oscillating so I thought it'd be a good candidate for an amplification circuit if we tap into part of the circuit and feedback to source. There's 300 VDC at the cap and there's another ? VAC if you place a probe from the Xenon bulb to ground of the battery.

I was hoping that with these high voltages available from the circuit after the input is disconnected that we could use this to have a regenerative feedback to source to keep it going.

Unfortunately I don't have a camera or video to show you what I'm talking about but if you get a Fujii disposable camera and gut it out and hook up the battery and short out the "On" button you will see the NE2 pulsating then if you take off the battery you will see the NE2 keep flashing so I thought that if we can feedback and/or amplify the output we could be onto something.

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on November 12, 2010, 01:26:41 AM

This circuit?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on November 12, 2010, 01:47:47 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 08, 2010, 08:46:26 PM
Here is a vid my friend made a while back. It is a quad fi coil. He shows the effects described.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbFqVh7GdGk

Mags

Well, I see I must write something. In the video is nothing extraordinary. Power(total energy in particular space) of the coil field can be build from lets say 90% of curent
(magnetic field) and 10% of voltage (electric field) or from lets say 30% of curent and 70% of voltage.Or any other combination.
If you apply lets say 100v over 100turn coil you will have 1v on 1turn and 100turn which enclose almost same particular space with same current each.
If you apply 100v over 1000turns coil you will have 0,1v over each turn and 1000 turns with same curent in particular space.
Specialy with DC current, after coil saturation there will be almost zero voltage on each turn. But for price of increasing resistance by lets say 1-2ohms, will increase ways in particular space where current flow by lets say 50turn which is still very good business.
And if you care about affecting permanent magnet which have big magnetic field, but almost no electric field. Then most efective(in care of energy consumption) way is to create a magnetic field without electric field(almost). Because you do not need it in that case. Got it?
Of course if you want to create electromagnet and you have AC then if you create a bifilar winding in terms of same number of turns as normal coil have, then you can put more energy in that coil and thus that, the electromagnet will be stronger, but takes the energy from source.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on November 12, 2010, 03:58:59 AM

Guys I would like to share this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckpQW9sdUg&feature=channel

Hope you find it interesting...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on November 12, 2010, 10:59:48 AM

Quote from: DimaWari on November 12, 2010, 01:26:41 AM
This circuit?

@ DimaWari

Yes thanks that's the circuit.

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on November 12, 2010, 10:02:03 PM

@ Goat

Have you watch the video that i posted? Well here is my idea.. what if we move dielectric material and do something about it before it return to conducting material?.. Can we gain extra energy? Just like this one?...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on November 13, 2010, 09:58:56 PM

Quote from: DimaWari on November 12, 2010, 10:02:03 PM
@ Goat

Have you watch the video that i posted? Well here is my idea.. what if we move dielectric material and do something about it before it return to conducting material?.. Can we gain extra energy? Just like this one?...

@ DimaWari

Yes I have watched the video you posted and studied the diagram from NT in your last post, thanks for the feedback but I fail to see the connection to my question, I was thinking more along the lines of tapping into the relaxation oscillator part of the Fuji circuit to create more oscillations in a new circuit.

Unfortunately I can't think of a way to do this without disrupting the relaxation oscillator part of the circuit.

Can we tap into or replace the NE2 and feed the small kicks into another circuit that creates bigger kicks?

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 14, 2010, 06:55:36 AM

can somebody tell me if that simulation is realistic ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 14, 2010, 07:02:24 AM

example about bad simulation circuit

$ 13 4.9999999999999996E-6 85.40587625261516 79 5.0 66
178 288 160 288 272 0 1 0.06 -0.007126811817257538 0.05 1000000.0 0.02 30.0
w 256 160 288 160 0
v 96 256 96 176 0 0 40.0 12.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
w 96 176 96 160 0
w 96 160 240 160 0
w 96 256 96 288 0
w 96 288 304 288 0
w 304 288 304 272 0
g 480 288 480 336 0
c 528 160 528 240 0 1.0000000000000001E-7 9.999974470326222E-4
d 432 112 528 112 1 0.805904783
w 288 160 288 112 0
w 288 112 432 112 0
d 432 112 432 288 1 0.805904783
w 432 288 480 288 0
w 480 288 528 288 0
w 528 112 528 160 0
w 528 240 528 288 0
w 528 112 608 112 0
162 608 112 608 288 1 2.1024259 1.0 0.0 0.0
w 608 288 528 288 0
o 9 64 1 299 7.62939453125E-5 9.765625E-5 0 -1
o 2 64 1 299 1.25 9.765625E-5 1 -1

replace LED by a neon (I didn't found it in falstad simulation tool)
in reality it works fine ! ground is my worktable with large iron vice
I can charge 100nF 630V capacitor to 90V in split of seconds so neon across it is lit continuously.Current is taken from iron ground ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 14, 2010, 07:07:29 AM

another circuit variant in that one I was able to charge cap only to 20V :-(

I believe that Avramenko plug is scattering radio waves into DC pulses but look how two diodes are used. I think they produce opposite pure voltage potentials but they are shifted in phase (positive pulses and negative pulses)
I believe that with shifting negative pulses to be at the same phase as positive will make this current pump work twice efficient due to larger voltage difference between capacitor terminals.
Remember it is slow frequency car relay powered by 12V input source !
Now you tell me how to replace relay with higher frequency higher voltage circuits ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 14, 2010, 07:07:50 AM

sorry forgot about circuit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 14, 2010, 07:11:06 AM

exercise :

take two AV plugs with long wire and place nearby , try to visualize how we can connect both together ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on November 14, 2010, 07:46:07 AM

Quote from: forest on November 14, 2010, 07:07:29 AM
another circuit variant in that one I was able to charge cap only to 20V :-(

I believe that Avramenko plug is scattering radio waves into DC pulses but look how two diodes are used. I think they produce opposite pure voltage potentials but they are shifted in phase (positive pulses and negative pulses)
I believe that with shifting negative pulses to be at the same phase as positive will make this current pump work twice efficient due to larger voltage difference between capacitor terminals.
Remember it is slow frequency car relay powered by 12V input source !
Now you tell me how to replace relay with higher frequency higher voltage circuits ???

Nice teory If you want seek complicated things, where are not.
If you wonder how avramenko work. Just imagine membrane pump, like this
http://www.e-cerpadla.cz/ftp/images/vererair.gif
If you rise frequency (rate of pumping) or voltage (pressure) you will have more efective pump, that is true. When you applied something like both pulses, negative and positive, you will get nothing.
If you wonder how to rise effeciency, just go study stiffler device
http://67.76.235.52/images/seccir.gif
http://stifflerscientific.com/
He already sucessed with that, when applied about 200v spikes with frequency about 3mhz, realy effective pump.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 14, 2010, 08:32:19 AM

well,I thought only how to make it more efficient because I think this is the essential part of Don Smith table top device secondary,he just used special coil

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 24, 2010, 03:33:03 AM

Hey , been way too busy lately. I have been doing some research and a few tests on things though.

While I was digging through some of my stuff, I found a couple neon transformers used in scanners and thought to give the Arvmenko Plug a shot. I am impressed.

Its in 2 vids. The first vid was cut of due to the camera shutting off when I discharged a cap at 700v. Mini EMP. ;]

I have only tried it this evening and havnt done any current tests on the input.

But the vids show what it is about.

But how many plugs n caps can we charge with this method?

I have some parts coming in hopefully this week. I ordered some SIDAC devices which I have read them to be specified as solid state spark gaps. Would those be silent explosions? We shall see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U3L5wD-TLI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf40Lyqyx4A

It is taking long for the vids to load they are still loading, the second one anyway. I am going to sleep, the second one should be up in a bit..

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on November 24, 2010, 08:20:51 AM

@Magluvin

If you have a second capacitor and two more diodes, you can do the same thing off the other circuit polarity. Or try the capacitor on the other circuit terminal. If you have two capacitors one on each terminal on one wire each only, then you should double your output without creating that much additional load on the circuit.

Also, you can try using a lower voltage rated capacitor but with a higher mF rating and use it as a real tank, then try to send some of that juice back to your battery through another diode and a resistor so you do not deplete the capacitor to fast. Or even through a 12v zenor diode that will shoot pulses back to the battery at a certain voltage rating.

One question. Is the output of the circuit AC or DC?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 24, 2010, 01:33:08 PM

Mags

Can you find device called Trisil ? It seems much beter then SIDAC.
Can you find the exact name for such device ?
Attached is comparision.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 24, 2010, 02:47:24 PM

Mags

I've found that connecting a big stranded copper wire to the big iron thing or copper tube grounded speed up capacitor charging many times. Can you try it ?
Just connect it to the capacitor negative terminal (where diode connect to it from anode).I suspect that it works like a pump and take electrons from metal.
The rate seems also proportional to the voltage of incoming wave.
I'm sure there is plenty of electrons everywhere generated by our Earth, just "dormant till cycled"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on November 24, 2010, 03:13:36 PM

oh...That is classic phenomenon called "Displacement current" for example tesla writes about it here: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm (among others)
Because do not exist coil, withou current, there is always current which depentds on capacity. If you add capacity, you will increase current in coil, and if you will have exact ampermetr conected in primary , you can also clearly see the current rise in primary as you increase current in secondary by conected capacity(can be earth grounding, antene, iron, copper or anything conductive.) And thus that, is increased efectivity of avramenko.

Or in other words, there is not exist absolutely closed circuit, and there is not exist absolutely open circuit.(thanks to Capacity, or longitudinal wave if you want)
Thus that, is also evident that for avramenko, coil with small capacity betwet turns is more efective that coil with high capacity betwen turns(bifilar for example) Because if you consider coil which have for example 6pf parasitic capacitance, and you add avramenko plug which add letsay 100pf to the coil, then bigger part of current will flow to the avramenko. And of course if you will have letsay, coil with parasitic capacitance 1.2n and you will add avramenko with his 100pf then bigger part of current will remain in coil. Of course, you can connect avramenko with letsay 100pf on one side, and grounding with XXXXXpf on other side. Then total capacitance which you add will be of course much more than 100pf, because is in serial conection with ground.

Next what you can observe is fact, that ground, and also air have negative charge, of course earth have much more negative potencial than air.(and depends on voltage node in coil, elevation, yearly period, distance from other object, and others little aspect.)
Because If you connect avr. plug. to the side where is + (after sudden interrupt in primary) then is more efective than if you connect it to the - side of the coil.

To the discharging back to the battery: I remember 8 years ago there was effort to do it.
http://vmiksik.sweb.cz/energy.html It was posted on one czech forum, but nobody post succes.

on page 34, I was posted scheme how to maximize efectivity of avramenko, by using ground and antene. But it lead nowhere. no overunity.
If you do not harvest back the energy from collapsing magntic field. Then the energy will be radiated and lost. Only part of radiation you will use to the avramenko. But on other hand. If you connect letsay, capacitor to collect it, then efectivity of avramenko is decreased, until capacitor is charged to some level.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 24, 2010, 07:36:26 PM

Hey Watts
I can see how the cap just gets 1 side charged at a time from the pump action of the secondary during each phase.
The secondary just pumps the electrons(or charge) from 1 side of the cap to the other.
So a large cap, I would want a transformer that was larger to get it to charge in a timely manor, Lots of copper on that secondary, more free electrons and lots of volume to pump and compress them to.
An open secondary must be pumping the electrons from one end to the other of the sec coil, AND there has to be room in that coil to take on new electrons from one side of the cap, and possibly be depleted of some when pumping them into the other side of the cap. Inductor inertia.

Either way I think doing all this probably affects the input some how. Im doing a vid of input power in a bit, one with the neon tube, one sec open and one with the plug and different value caps. I might think a 1F cap may cause a bit of a load on the plug, maybe.

Hey Forest
I will definitely check more about those devices. We will see what the SIDACs do when they get here. I think they were 1500w if I remember correctly. Got myself a 4700ft roll of 23 awg wire to roll my own large inductors also. Just got it today. If I need larger awg for a project I can wind multiple strands of it. Its my first big roll of this type of wire. Ive had larger though when I was doing car audio. =]
I think adding the GND to the circuit just may get the neon unit pulling some big current. Ill do a test and a vid on it. =]

Hey IWD

Thanks for the info.

Tito pointed it to us, so hopefully it holds some merit. ;] Thanks teets, very cool

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 25, 2010, 11:36:22 PM

Here is a vid of input current from the battery. It is still uploading, says about 55 min argh wuzzup wit yt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhikMvWd0bo

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 26, 2010, 05:19:00 AM

Mags

Can you check with smaller cap maybe higher voltage rated ? The only problem I see is how to speed up process of charging without consuming current from source.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Kator01 on November 26, 2010, 08:00:13 AM

Hi Mag,

why do you not calculate the energy of the capacitor with this formula here for Ec:

http://www.olino.org/us/articles/2006/11/22/charge-efficiency-capacitor (http://www.olino.org/us/articles/2006/11/22/charge-efficiency-capacitor)

after you have measured the current times Voltage times seconds it needs to charge up the capapcitor to a certain voltage-level ?

However, before you can do this, you have to exactly measure the capacitance of your condenser as you can not trust the value on the label.

Regards

Kator01

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 26, 2010, 11:25:33 AM

Forest
I know what you are saying. Im waiting for some caps to come in. I tried larger value caps and its dreadfully slow.

Kator
Mainly I wanted to see if the av plug charging the cap had any expense on the input, and it does.
And the expense is very low in my opinion.

I think I can do better with the Igniter circuit, with the right inductor. Thats why I got the large roll of wire. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 26, 2010, 11:40:33 AM

Forest

The Trisil seems to be the Shizzle my Nizzle. ;] Foshizzle.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 26, 2010, 05:56:17 PM

Got my SIDACs in today, 20 for 12.99

Just ordered 50 TRISILs as shown in the pdf above on ebay for 32 buck shipped, be here this week.

In the pdf, it shows 4 leads connected to each end of the diode, For an 8 pin DIP I would never imagine as much current handling till seeing this.

Cheap enough for experimentation. Can be put in series to raise the breakover voltage.

Cool stuff

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 26, 2010, 10:30:51 PM

I have been experimenting with the av plug cap charging.

Im using a SIDAC to discharge the cap into a standard ignition coil primary. Im doing the vid in a bit. It might take time for it to load.

Im pretty happy with the results. The primary of the coil is 1.25 ohms. The SIDAC is dumping 250v from a .33uf 275v cap. It is producing a very good spark.

To run one of these coils normally with a 1ohm ballast resistor and points at 12v, the coil can consume 6 to 10 amps, with voltages above 14 when running. All well above 50w

Here we are using max, 60ma 12v, 750mw using the av plug and a small neon transformer circuit.

I wonder how much power they use in todays ignitions..

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 27, 2010, 12:35:34 AM

Started uploading the vid It says there is 50 min to go. Ill post when its up.

I have to say these SIDACs handle a lil juice. Peaks.

The Trisil is the shizzle though

I am going to try a couple experiments charging the 1uf 2kv cap using a bridge but with the light in series to limit the current to the boards normal running conditions. The cap should go to 250 very quick for discharge into the spark coil. I also wanna try 2 sidac in series for a 500v gap.

I wonder if an AV plug would work in a house ac outlet? Not that it would not consume power, but wonder.

Back when vids done.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 27, 2010, 01:29:05 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EP8M4YcGio

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: penno64 on November 27, 2010, 01:51:19 AM

Wonderful !

Now introduce an earth/ground connection

Penno

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 27, 2010, 05:58:35 AM

Wow!

Great result Mags!

Yeah,it's time to connect it also to the bigger ground,bigger metal,something having a lot more free electrons.Maybe just grounding a case is enough ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 27, 2010, 02:35:11 PM

Ground

How can we avoid using ground and get the same effect. I get the concept of using gnd. It is the same as using a suspended metallic object as a gnd for a crystal radio set. It works, but the earth is larger.

Like when I touch the casing of the spark coil, I simulate a stash of free electrons, in the form of a capacitive connection to the primary coil in the casing, thus giving our charge caps something on the other side to work with , giving the ability to charge quicker. When I touch that casing, charge flows in and out of me as fast as the polarity change from the neon transformer.

But, in each case, whether it be earth gnd, human ground, or just rigging the neon transformer to directly charge the cap via bridge rect, we increase the current input. No free lunch yet. And of all, the direct method will give us a very very fast charge, at .6a 12v 7.2W Just the av plug one ended to the neon transformer, max power is .75w tot
and we have to wait for full charge.

I am doing another vid in a bit. Using 2 SIDACs in series, putting 2 275v caps in series(.33 and .22 = bout .13uf)
So now she is gapped at 500v. I am also using more capacitive winding to the casing. Some of it will be bringing the input above 100ma. So about 50ma is being consumed after the neon circuit. These sidacs are fun to mess with. I was afraid they would not handle much, but they are exceeding my expectations. Ebay Cheap Obsolete parts. So the trisil should blow me away.

I have tried to run the spark coil from the neon transformer directly and with spark gap alone, due to the neon is a couple kv, it produces a starting spark at about 1mm or so. But it cannot produce the spark from the coil alone.

Maybe the AV plug can be used to kick an lrc.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on November 27, 2010, 03:28:45 PM

I forgot to mention That effeciency of av plug can be also raised by adding selfinductanc serialy connected with capacitor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 27, 2010, 03:52:57 PM

I had thought about putting a lil inertia in there. But if the plug only affects 1 side of the cap per phase, hmmm
Maybe. A coil in series between each diode and the cap. Once it gets going, the coils are flywheelin charge from one side of the cap to the other. Despite discharge, if the coils are the right H for the freq of the neon unit, the neon unit will now only be a kicker keeping the flywheels in motion, and hopefully less current input comes of it.

Think of it, even as one side of the cap is being charged by neon unit each phase, with the flywheels in motion, both sides of the cap will be affected in charge at all times.

Thanks Iwd Makes sense to me ;]

Im shooting this 500v gap vid right now. Then I want to try this flywheel ting.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on November 27, 2010, 04:08:51 PM

Well ...I do not write something, what I do not testing before, only fact.
But what you can find very interesting, is that conencting negative part of primary to condenser. like in attached picture(only simle scheme do not look at value, first two coil are on same core, and better is trifilar where you can take negative point from one free secondary. The third coil is just selfinductance):
It doubles the av plug output for constant(same) time, for same input power.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 27, 2010, 05:50:29 PM

Iwd
Are you sure this primary connection wont hurt my primary side circuitry? Even when I touch a secondary lead I can pull a spark about 1mm, and it burns. This might cause my primary of the neons circuitry to become of that high potential.
Would you suggest a resistor or cap to make that connection?

I have added an inductor to the mix for this vid, and I can show if there is a difference, but not using the primary line as shown above yet.

Will be postin the vid in a bit

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on November 27, 2010, 06:00:44 PM

I understand, for that reason is better to use transformer with 3 windings like I am wrote, and use negative point from free secondary. I was make my transformer by my self, and other part like mosfet is highly overlarge with breakdown parametrs. But with you device, is realy not good idea to connect it by this way.
I am also using lower voltage than you. If you care about larger spark, then is good to use high voltage and smal value caps, and charged it to higger possible value. But if you care about taking back some power back to source. Or just when you want handle with it, then is better to use smaller voltage.
Benefits are for example: for lower voltage you can use much faster diodes(25ns) which also increase efectivity of avr. plug
Or you can discharge it to other coil, or somwhere else, by tranzistors or mosfets which is also better and more efective than using sidac, trisil, transil or sparkgap, because when you are using solidstate part you can easy control break time and thus thath break wave at peak. Even more, you can discharge capacitor by let say, 5* times before are empty, and thus that you can have 5 break at peak. And I can also make exact measurement of input/output power
(and of course when you have let say mosfet rated 1500v, then you can have more than 1000v tension spikes on primary, and thus that with transformer just with letsay rate 1:5 ..you can have 5kv on the output, and input power will stay at letsay 0,1A from 12v battery,...if you care about biggest possible voltage, just use ingnition coil and mosfet rated at least 800v, and you will have let say 1-1,3 cm long arch on the output, just with 1,2w input) I write this, because maybe I am just misunderstood this:
"To run one of these coils normally with a 1ohm ballast resistor and points at 12v, the coil can consume 6 to 10 amps
, with voltages above 14 when running. All well above 50w"
You mean with DC current without any interrupt?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 27, 2010, 08:28:18 PM

Quote from: IWD on November 27, 2010, 06:00:44 PM
I write this, because maybe I am just misunderstood this:
"To run one of these coils normally with a 1ohm ballast resistor and points at 12v, the coil can consume 6 to 10 amps
, with voltages above 14 when running. All well above 50w"
You mean with DC current without any interrupt?

True, DC as example. Actually older cars with points, you shouldnt leave the ignition on due to the points may be closed. Its not good for points or the coil, let alone the battery. Many coils vary. I have a coil MSD that wont fire with 12v, it needs cap discharge.

Back in a bit

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 27, 2010, 10:04:04 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3WmK3qrws

Took forev to upload.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 30, 2010, 07:48:19 PM

hi everyone! good day! ;D

I just want to share this library that helps me a lot!
There's a lot of infos here, hope it'll help a little in your FE adventure. ;D

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?&p=how+to+build+a+free+energy+device&rs=0ni=20&fr=yfp-t-701-s&fr2=

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 30, 2010, 07:57:49 PM

Teets! CRON?

Is that where you use iron wire as a core and it is also the secondary coil?

I had the pat from 1907 last night and I lost it, no history, cant find. I remember it was called a converter as they did back then and the pat is from Philadelphia pa.

It had shown , like I saw in a tesla pat, a coil of wire(iron) with copper coil around it like a toroid, and it had shown other examples.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 30, 2010, 08:27:26 PM

oh boy, there is a rhyuma attack in my hands and lips, i can't write and talk.

sorry i'll just answer it next time, by the way i just told my assistant to make typing for me. ;D

bye got to go ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 30, 2010, 09:16:59 PM

;D

ok ok ok no i didn't use that in this project.

i just use simple materials like lot of simple copper coils.

Now, to get free energy use a thin copper like 22awg (of course many wind)then use a small caps and this will serve as a booster then use a thick copper like #4-10 awg as a use for output (winding depends on voltage you get and what you want) for large capacity.

notice why tesla use small caps in his tesla coil ???

then just series and parallel technique will do some doping effect.

wait a minute!: i'm expecting that you are already using the efficient way of using the source! >:(

There are three ways of using the source efficiently that i rediscovered and they are already been discussed in this forum ok?

ossie callanan techniqe is number 4.
do you know that combining ozone pattent in ossie also a good way to overing output. mark my word!
using this technique will minimise one switch. and that's great!

goodluck guys. love you all bye.

do you know also that i am the daughter of my father Tito L. Oracion?

now decide what youved read. ;D

my father is a great inventor.

my name is cassandra, many times he writes here and now i am. lol ;D

bye,

ps, next time my father will be the one to write again. he is currently in Los Angeles snooping around lol.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 01, 2010, 11:53:43 PM

Ossie Ozone zippity zapper

So, use source in series with large inductor,( just wound one) then use 2 sidacs to replace the reeds, except we add a cap for discharge into the coils. The sidacs should connect and disconnect at equal times in series as the reeds were.
BUT, we will need a start switch to get the inductor going to develop the voltage in the cap to meet the breakover voltage of the sidacs. So for that config, a cap will be chosen that is small enough for the cap to charge to 480v for the sidacs to kick . Then just collect as the Ossie motor does to the battery.

I wound a lot of wire on the spool for the large inductor. Over 2000 ft. 56ohm 23awg.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 01, 2010, 11:54:10 PM

=]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 02, 2010, 08:23:56 PM

;D ;D ;D ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 02, 2010, 08:45:37 PM

Found the pat on my pc that I thought I lost on the iron core/secondary. Very interesting. I use firefox, and it seems to want to choose where to put certain items when downloading. Some go to Downloads folder, some go to temp folder, within a hidden folder Local Settings. Is there a way to have 1 default download folder in firefox?
Oh yeah, the pat was from 1904.

Dont get all choked up teets, ;] remember its for the world. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 02, 2010, 08:50:50 PM

;D ;D :o ;D ;D :P :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 02, 2010, 09:02:39 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 01, 2010, 11:53:43 PM
Ossie Ozone zippity zapper

So, use source in series with large inductor,( just wound one) then use 2 sidacs to replace the reeds, except we add a cap for discharge into the coils. The sidacs should connect and disconnect at equal times in series as the reeds were.
BUT, we will need a start switch to get the inductor going to develop the voltage in the cap to meet the breakover voltage of the sidacs. So for that config, a cap will be chosen that is small enough for the cap to charge to 480v for the sidacs to kick . Then just collect as the Ossie motor does to the battery.

I wound a lot of wire on the spool for the large inductor. Over 2000 ft. 56ohm 23awg.

Mags

Well, not bad, your way is different, mine is simple and simplicity is the best policy. hahaha ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 02, 2010, 09:03:45 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 01, 2010, 11:53:43 PM
Ossie Ozone zippity zapper

So, use source in series with large inductor,( just wound one) then use 2 sidacs to replace the reeds, except we add a cap for discharge into the coils. The sidacs should connect and disconnect at equal times in series as the reeds were.
BUT, we will need a start switch to get the inductor going to develop the voltage in the cap to meet the breakover voltage of the sidacs. So for that config, a cap will be chosen that is small enough for the cap to charge to 480v for the sidacs to kick . Then just collect as the Ossie motor does to the battery.

I wound a lot of wire on the spool for the large inductor. Over 2000 ft. 56ohm 23awg.

Mags

Well, not bad, your way is different, mine is simple and simplicity is the best policy. hahaha ;D

Quote:P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 02, 2010, 09:13:01 PM

Thanks Teets. Here is a pic of the SIDAC and the TRISIL

I can understand that your setup might be simpler, but you did recommend Ossie, and as far as I see there are 2 switches. Or are you referring to something else?

:P

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 02, 2010, 10:03:14 PM

Ya, i think i just made an improvement? or a variation in ossie's design by eliminating one switch, and added up some secondaries in ossie's series coils then connecting them parallel to add more extra juice. simple but effective.hmmmm ;D of course we can add a lot of transistors in 7812 setup as current amplifier in the secondaries hmmmmmmm!.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 02, 2010, 11:16:07 PM

Teets! lol Are you saying fire the coils in series, but collect from them in parallel? Can they be hooked up in series and stay that way, AND by using diodes we can capture from each of them in parallel to 1 collector? I will have to try it, or even just look at a diagram to visualize.

Sorry if all this is taking me so long to figure out teets. Im picking up my new work bench/desk this week coming up. Mags Lab! It will help me keep more organized with parts and multiple projects.
Im not doing much experimenting tonight. Added a core to the Large inductor made from iron tie wire pieces. With 1 fast tap of 24v, over 600v into a 1uf cap. The core pieces I had wrapped with thick cellophane to insulate them, adding them as I wrapped. Could be denser, theres always more time to do more, hopefully. ;]

Thanks teets. U da Man. :-* lol

Mags Lab

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 03, 2010, 12:38:06 AM

http://www.zen22142.zen.co.uk/Circuits/Power/1230psu.htm

BUT! take note for the balance ok!

so looong fel ;)

ps: i'm wondering why this thread of mine become ossie motor thread, hmm. ???
i think ossie is crossing just to say 'hi i'm also better design hmmmm'. :D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 05, 2010, 11:17:26 PM

Something I thought of that doesnt make sense to me.

Considering a transformer, lets say step down, say 10 to 1, with 100v in and 10v out.
If ya think about it, on the secondary, the voltage is stepped down, less motive force, less pressure, yet the amperage capability is relatively high. Or the other way around, 100v, high pressure, but low current content. Sounds like something is wrong here. I just really never looked at it that way before. Sounds like basic info, but when we consider the pressure(voltage) capabilities in each situation, something doesnt seem right.

Is it only related to the AWG size of the wire for the pri and sec?

If we looked at a step up as if it were gears and the teeth were turns, The sec, larger gear with more teeth, has more pressure, force, voltage, and low current, low current as in the gear moves slow, things are moving slow on that side, where as the smaller gear, the primary, can be driven with little pressure, voltage, but great amount of movement, current.

I dunno. It seems as if there were a way to make a transformer that had gain, we may be able to apply that idea to gears in some fashion. weird

I just have these crazy visions of it has to be done another way. Its like havin a name you cant recall on the tip of your tongue.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on December 06, 2010, 01:03:44 PM

Hi Magluvin,

That is something that has always got to me. You can take a 10Awg wire make a 20 turn coil and spin a diametric magnet next to it with a Dremel and get 8 amps out but the voltage will be in the micro-volts. Take the same weight of coil in 22Awg and you will get 10+volts but very little current. The copper mass, the magnet and speed hasn't changed but the B-Fields linking the coils has increased. So if we want to get amps we have to lessen the B-Field interference. If we want voltage we need a higher linked B-Field.

Could it be possible to get a 10ft conical wire that start from 22Awg and ramps up to 12Awg? If two of these are wound opposing each other tapped in the middle it might be possible to get both the voltage and the current from the same speed magnet? I'm not really sure how a non-linear wire would work or how to calculate it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on December 06, 2010, 02:03:03 PM

..oh...just go, and measure the inductance. of these two coils, and mystery will be gone.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on December 06, 2010, 03:02:55 PM

Hi IWD,

Yes for linear we can measure the inductance but for non-linear wire wrapped as a coil would it still be calculated the same? A cone shaped wire going from 12Awg to 22Awg, the circumference of the coil would change based on the change of diameter. The B-Field will expand towards the top and shrink towards the bottom the way I visualize it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on December 06, 2010, 04:12:46 PM

-Electricity flows around the wire, not in the wire
-smalt izolation is adjusting spacing betwen two wires, in sense of two waies current.
-and also size of wire is adjusting spacing betwen pair of two current path.
-more path with moving charges in same particular space and time, will ressults as bigger inductance.
-More possible ways off current is concentrated in smaller space, and thus that, is more intensive magnetic field, and of course induced current is also creating more intensive magnetic field, with opozite polarization.
-And of course with decreasing of rate(balance) betwen electric and magnetic field, one type of energy will supply the other type(magnetic for current, and electric for voltage)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on December 06, 2010, 04:33:04 PM

@Magluvin

A few years ago I asked myself the same question and came up with this idea.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3972.msg136972#msg136972

I am sure such a core laminate would save tons of copper wire to achieve the same step-up or step-down coupling effects and maybe even to increase gain. lol

@DreamThinkBuild

Doing it with a conical wire itself should make no difference to the coupling. You will still be regulated by the thinnest part of the wire.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 06, 2010, 08:00:46 PM

Something has open.
oh boy its so exciting hmmmmm.......

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 06, 2010, 09:08:15 PM

Hey Teets

Im right huh? Something is wrong with the conventional way, and many other ways that that the same theory of mutual induction applies.

I remember Agent Gates coil. The angles had my mind hanging outside the box for a bit.
Before Gates appeared, I had an idea that if the conductors were at some angle to each other, that there could possibly be an acceleration or form of gear ratio thing in primary and secondary. I had the idea from just visualizing a spinning field around the conductors that acted like gears when interacting with each other, the primary and secondary. But I had dropped the idea and proceeded with other projects.
But as I began into Gates thread, he said something that sparked my memory, and I think I posted about it there.
I cant remember, and just spent some time looking for the original thread that was posted as applied for ou prize. Gone?
But it was something to do with the spinning around the conductors, that if you pulsed it the right way, the spinning became large and continued to spin beyond the pulse, and when pulsed timely, it would produce dc output on the sec.

But the spin interaction, while the conductors are at an angle to each other, I envisioned a sort of way to change the gear ratio, depending on the angle and distance of the pri and sec conductors. The word I believe he used that got me was accelerate. I was hooked for a bit.
I began to think Gates was holding back on correct info along the way, and my evidence was pretty strong on the conviction, as there was inconsistency here n there.

EDIT I believed he didnt want anyone to get it done before him, at the time. Many were fumbling from design to the new design. I think the sec definitely needed to be heavy wire, but also the primary should have been larger than prescribed, as shown in his gift to Stefan, of which was suppose to be a working model in progress. =l

From what I have heard, they are still working on it. Grapes

Anyway, Im rambling.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 06, 2010, 09:17:44 PM

Good stuff Watts

Hmmm, maybe somehow have more core volume toward the tip of the cone, and thin out toward the open end.

Im glad you and Dream have had the same thoughts. Its strange how this idea eluded me for so long.

Back in the days, they studied 1 wire against 1 wire. and strange looking simplistic experiments. Maybe we need to dig into such things. I had suggested to Gates that maybe testing just 2 wires crossing each other to find optimal angle.

hmm wonder how AGs coil would react with trisil shmacks from da caps. Maybe it can deliver a big spinfest as compared to the transistor switch. Still got my AG coil. Will give it a go.

=]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 06, 2010, 09:29:50 PM

Hey Teets

It would be very cool if at least when we ask a question that IS in the right direction, that you let us know with a big YES! when we do get something right. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :-*

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 07, 2010, 02:24:16 AM

Oh :o

Well, YES! thats one door but there are other doors and sometimes we Need to combine those doors to make pretty smoothly cool running engine.

Let say for example: to have a cool running engine it needs some water, air , gasoline, oil and a good heavy duty materials okay?

Now, what happens in our thread is that in different days we get discover water, the other day oil. etc, got it? ;D The target is moving, then to solve its movement we have to check its every move to point it out.

So therefore we conclude that free energy can achieved by means of good combination of different working ideas, right? 8)

That's why what Tesla did was to scater all of his work into separate pieces and gave it to his different friends.

and so now those different tech are already in the WWW then our only task now is to solve the puzzle ok.

Tesla is genius but we are more genius now than tesla ok ;D

Now wakeup! ;D

ps: do you know how frankenstine is made? we can do it more better ok :)
: There is always room for improvement :) :(

Tito mateti reporting ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 07, 2010, 03:38:49 AM

Tito

You really do not know how complicated it is to found even simple thing :(
Some are blessed but accidentally finding a working device and can learn from this, but others have a lot of ideas like a many gears from watch but they haven't ever seen a watch so they have no such blinking moment : "AHA ! That's a part of the watch!"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on December 07, 2010, 09:15:42 PM

QuoteDoing it with a conical wire itself should make no difference to the coupling. You will still be regulated by the thinnest part of the wire.

Thank you Wattsup and IWD for the explanation.

Hi Tito,

In one of your post you mentioned two coils, one large, one small, with a cap. Do you spark gap the small coil into the large coil or are they flux linked? :)

Hi Magluvin,

QuoteBack in the days, they studied 1 wire against 1 wire. and strange looking simplistic experiments. Maybe we need to dig into such things. I had suggested to Gates that maybe testing just 2 wires crossing each other to find optimal angle.

I still keep thinking we can capture the B-Field that is setup around a conductor. Take a 1ft 10Awg wire which will run our input signal. Take a 12Awg steel electric fence wire as the core now coil the 22Awg wire onto the 12Awg core. Now take that candy cane and wrap it around our conductor. Put a square wave into the 10Awg wire and measure the output of the 22Awg which is coiled around it. If we get even in the milli-watts all we should be able to calculate how long a cable we need to get the desired watts. It might just turn out to be a inefficient heater though (melted). :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 08, 2010, 02:37:03 AM

Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on December 07, 2010, 09:15:42 PM
Thank you Wattsup and IWD for the explanation.

Hi Tito,

In one of your post you mentioned two coils, one large, one small, with a cap. Do you spark gap the small coil into the large coil or are they flux linked? :)

Hi Magluvin,

I still keep thinking we can capture the B-Field that is setup around a conductor. Take a 1ft 10Awg wire which will run our input signal. Take a 12Awg steel electric fence wire as the core now coil the 22Awg wire onto the 12Awg core. Now take that candy cane and wrap it around our conductor. Put a square wave into the 10Awg wire and measure the output of the 22Awg which is coiled around it. If we get even in the milli-watts all we should be able to calculate how long a cable we need to get the desired watts. It might just turn out to be a inefficient heater though (melted). :)

Yes, its from small -> large coil but I eliminated the spark gap anymore, don't use it pls. And they are flux linked also. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on December 08, 2010, 04:16:43 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 08, 2010, 02:37:03 AM
Yes, its from small -> large coil but I eliminated the spark gap anymore, don't use it pls. And they are flux linked also. :)

OK I have had enough. As someone who KNOWS how an OU device works I am just going to come out and say it.

Tito...you are entirely full of shit!

I have watched you change your story and 'guide' people with your idiotic hints for months and even though I know the formula, you make no sense to me at all. What hope for someone who has no idea where to start!!!! WHY?? Because you are a liar and just as lost as all these other people!! All you do is crave the attention of forum people saying "oh Sir Tito...please tell us". You have changed your crap so many times I don't know why nobody else calls you on it. First you say spark gap and ABC is the method, then when someone else has something promising, you say "yehhhhh thats EXACTLY what I'm doing and forget about the spark gap" LMAO. Next month it is something else or some other stupid regurgitated internet fluff that isnt even your own spiel.

You sir are a little clown, a village idiot with nothing and have never shown these people anything. Go away and stop misleading the masses!

E-Goose

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 08, 2010, 05:57:26 AM

Quote from: ElectricGoose on December 08, 2010, 04:16:43 AM
As someone who KNOWS how an OU device works...

so when are you going to lay the golden egg on us man?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on December 08, 2010, 08:50:07 AM

Teets
I don't think you are sure ,Perhaps you are getting a"Voltage" increase?
Can you just post one power in power out calc?
We have been learning an awful lot about Batteries lately,

And how tricky they really are?
Have you been tricked?

Or is the goose Correct?
Fess up bro !!,post some numbers !

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on December 08, 2010, 06:43:24 PM

Quote from: ElectricGoose on December 08, 2010, 04:16:43 AM
OK I have had enough. As someone who KNOWS how an OU device works I am just going to come out and say it.

Tito...you are entirely full of shit!

I have watched you change your story and 'guide' people with your idiotic hints for months and even though I know the formula, you make no sense to me at all. What hope for someone who has no idea where to start!!!! WHY?? Because you are a liar and just as lost as all these other people!! All you do is crave the attention of forum people saying "oh Sir Tito...please tell us". You have changed your crap so many times I don't know why nobody else calls you on it. First you say spark gap and ABC is the method, then when someone else has something promising, you say "yehhhhh thats EXACTLY what I'm doing and forget about the spark gap" LMAO. Next month it is something else or some other stupid regurgitated internet fluff that isnt even your own spiel.

You sir are a little clown, a village idiot with nothing and have never shown these people anything. Go away and stop misleading the masses!

E-Goose

Sorry Goose but you are the one that is full of it demanding stuff and calling people names. Just because @Tito is not following your personal time table, gives you no right to treat him like crap on a stick. You are definitely not doing anyone here a favor in treating @members like that, so I suggest you either apologize, or remove your post or get lost.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on December 08, 2010, 08:03:28 PM

Quote from: wattsup on December 08, 2010, 06:43:24 PM
Sorry Goose but you are the one that is full of it demanding stuff and calling people names. Just because @Tito is not following your personal time table, gives you no right to treat him like crap on a stick. You are definitely not doing anyone here a favor in treating @members like that, so I suggest you either apologize, or remove your post or get lost.

Oh poor wattsup...somebody critcising your hero and you can't handle the truth? Funny thing, I dont hear any response from Tito!
1) I dont need to apologise for the truth...it is what it is and those are the facts. If you can't handle it go cry to your mama.
2) I don't need Tito's shit therefore I dont know where you come up with this "timeline theory". I have my own OU thankyou.
3) I simply hate BS and call people on it.

Too many followers here and not enough lone wolves. Thats why these forums are mostly about going around in circles and blah blah blah blah.
I shall now leave you to your delusion wattsup. Good day.

E-Goose

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 08, 2010, 08:53:53 PM

Be cool Goose. I too had some anxiety toward Tito at times. But being mean is something else. Like Playboy magazine, if you dont approve of the content, dont pick up the book.

I think we are making some forward progress.

Guys, I know I pause for bits of time from all this, and I dont want to. Sometimes its the nut cases I was living with, sometimes it is going to try something that I think I figured out and tried but the results were way off of anticipation. Then I go into a Whats the deal with this, it aint workin, at all! But I realize for sure that I just dont have the right ingredients, or the right values, of some, they need adjust ability to get things right. I get in a funk some times. But I bounce back and continue.

Im running to the store to get Bebe, my cat, some food and snacks, and some windex, and other things. I wish I could just work on this continuously, but kitty needs to eat, and dust needs cleaning, and so on.
Im getting the new bench set up this weekend. cant wait. =]

Anyway, be cool, or put up or shut up. You are bragging here, so maybe take some of your own advice. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 08, 2010, 10:41:57 PM

;D

hi goose

The way you talk, you have something huh?, ok can you lay it now goose!!?

you can not? then your're more than a shit goose!!! you boosted goose! :P
That's your word so i think it is appropriated for you, you shit!, shit! shit!!!

I apologize if i made you disappointed okay?

one time i said i'm giving a lot of jumble info from 12 project i am doing okay ?

cause i will not give totally or completely the secret ok!!!?, but you know what? sometimes good or bad words made me tell a lot, if you're just really following me you can solve some of my project!.

now! if you don't want me!!!! i'm not forcing you to GOOSE AWAY!!!!! ;D

OR ELSE I'LL ELECTROCUTE YOU! by the way did you saw an electrocuted goose? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 08, 2010, 10:59:41 PM

ok i'm sorry for your word i'm not used to say it. :(

small coil to large coil means to me as thick coil to thin coil and that is what i'm using for boosting voltage and current of course i'm not saying it is complete already ok!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 08, 2010, 10:59:53 PM

Peace be with you may you rest in peace ;D

Hi goose, i cannot response right away cause i'm busy and i don't really want to answer some goose brain! joke ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 08, 2010, 11:20:10 PM

Quote from: ramset on December 08, 2010, 08:50:07 AM

We have been learning an awful lot about Batteries lately,

And how tricky they really are?

Chet

hi chet

what did you learn about batteries? will you please share it to me pls. :)

i think i missed it.

pls,pls, pls, pls, pls.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on December 09, 2010, 09:05:06 AM

Teets
Batteries??

They can give the illusion of OU ,mostly because we don't understand that when a battery seems dead ,there is actually alot of energy still stored that we previously threw away![because we didn't know how to get it]

The ability to actually understand the potential of a battery, is very very hard to do!

Teets If your concept is relying on batteries to do any thing more thank "Start" an event!
If you really can run a heavy resistive load [thousands of watts],on One watch battery,

Then you are getting OU,
But if your swapping around 700 watch batteries and caps in some kind of Gizmo circuit to run the fridge,you need to let it run for a few weeks or months to know whats really going on!

Teets,
Its almost Christmas,you know what I want?
The gift that keeps on giving!
Open source! [no secrets]

Chetkremens@gmail.com

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 09, 2010, 08:06:51 PM

hi chet thank you for your share.

No!, we are not throwing anything in battery, we just let it flow or move going to other side.
No!, You are getting OU if you successfully remove the battery ok?

Yes ! i believe you when battery is dead the electrons are joined with the protons so everything is there they just need to be re separate.

in my knowledge i am relying with the combine energy of battery coils and caps, i'm just using battery as a starter when everything is running and energized then we can remove the battery. that is what i am is doing, now starting from small energy is different story but the same nature of amplification cause what i am doing in this case is that a chain reaction in coil makes a lot of coil to energize separate from the source completely.

now if your asking how is that chain reaction be done then that is the real secret sorry. :(

Did you try hitting the middle of your leg in front where it is bending, if you hit it then your foot will kick automatically, something like that. ;D

But! if you hit lot of leg then theres a lot of kick! JUST IN ONE TIME USE OF SOURCE INPUT OK;D

So let say for example if you have 100 kicker coils then it will be multiplied by the number of how many time you made use of the source then surely you have lots of gain!!!!

see chet just minimal secret now ok? ;D

HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND.

now if you understand it, you tell me if i'm not telling the truth!

@goose, just because you don't understand then i'm a full of shit!? huh!?
you turkey brain! courtesy of sir wattsup ;D joke

Tito mateti reporting ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 10, 2010, 12:49:14 PM

Hey teets, dont lower your self to gooses level. ;)

100 coils? well, Im only at 1 to 3 coils at the moment, so lets try to focus on something to start with.
Its hard to get into this, and have more ingredients added without knowing what to do with them, let alone something basic to start with and no solid direction.
So of course Ram wont understand yet, as I dont, as to the use of 100 coils and how they are hooked up, or even their arrangement for use. I suppose it will be something later to accept as we move along.

I havnt tried the trisils yet. Will tommorow. Bang bang. Will be interesting to see how they compare to sidacs

Got company coming tonight.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on December 10, 2010, 03:02:01 PM

Mags,
You are right !I don't understand,If I did it would be all over these pages!

Teetsla,
What you posted above [the bang the knee thing]
Seems like what william is saying [as best he can] Here,

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10085.msg266604#new

Post #22 ,his 1 into 36 comment?

Chet
PS
I've been doing the Bang the head against the wall thing ??
I'll try the knee!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 10, 2010, 03:56:04 PM

Guys

I few pictures of testing my old circuit with my new scope.can you help me ?
Tito is there anything important with those scope-shots ?
4011 impulses only.jpg are when car coil was not connected, others when connected (done using old 2 channels 25Mhz analogue scope)
Tito,do you know maybe how can I measure length of car coil secondary without destroying it ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on December 10, 2010, 07:52:57 PM

Forest, if you can, please try to display only two full cycles of the waveform, and let's see if your scope resolves the fast rise of the spike.
Next, you can expand the time scale even more, to zero in on just the spike portion of a single cycle, to see if the scope can make a visible trace as the signal voltage shoots up (or down).
You are missing a lot of detail of your circuit's performance hidden in the spikes, where your scope just shows a blank discontinuity right now.

You can estimate the length of wire in the sealed coil in a couple of ways. First you can measure accurately the coil's DC resistance and compute the length of winding wire from that---if you can get an accurate and precise resistance measurement.
Or, if you have a good signal generator, you can sweep the coil's primary and monitor the voltage on the secondary, looking for a resonant peak. The biggest resonant voltage rise will occur at a wavelength 4 times the length of the coil's winding, adjusted somewhat for the core of the coil. So the wire length will be roughly 1/4 the wavelength of the frequency that excites the largest resonant voltage rise in the secondary.

Why do you need to know the length anyway? To find the resonances empirically is always easier for me...my calculations are usually wrong anyway.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 11, 2010, 05:18:04 AM

Thanks TinselKoala

Precisely I'd like to find 1/4 wavelength for this coil ;-)
but I have only impulse square wave generator 1Hz-10Mhz and do not know wire diameter inside coil.
How can I find where voltage on output is maximum ? Cannot use scope because it will burn it from HV
My scope is very old and I have no experience,I haven't found a way to scope only two full cycles of waveform, there is only a way to trigger once (instead of automatic) but I've never make it to work for me - in theory what it should show me ?
I'm trying to use ordinary parts to make Tesla coil with all Tesla comments in my mind.
Another question is how to shift phase of input oscillator according to the +DC sinus of RLC circuit so it will break it exactly at the peak of RLC wave ? Can scope properly display phase relations between two channels inputs in chopper mode ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 11, 2010, 09:51:00 AM

Hey Forest

What he is saying is, you can use the signal gen to apply a signal, and the scope, to find that freq, and from that you can determine the length of the sec.

But I think I know what your concerns are with hv. I believe he is saying to just apply the sig to the sec, not the primary, to test the sec for 1/4 wave freq. I cannot say for sure that if you did hook up the sig gen at very low input to the primary, that the sec may still output hv. But probably. If 12v can produce 15 to 20 kv then 1v in can produce 1 to 2kv. Even at very low input current, at certain freq.

I would say to just apply the sig gen to the sec, and measure across that with the scope, then sweep. You will see that some freq will provide high points and low. As TK says, the highest point will be your target freq, and then calculate for length. =]

I have seen diagrams of the internals shown as the common end of the sec connected to the + of the primary, and others show the common of the sec to the neg of the pri. I have tried to measure the coil that I have with my meter to determine which, and my wavetek is accurate to .01 ohm, but the sec resistance is to high, and the difference in adding the primary in series, I cannot tell for sure on my coil.

I would try both + and - for the sec test to note a difference if any. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on December 11, 2010, 06:43:43 PM

Hi forest,

You could make a coupling coil with a few turns (say 5-10 turns only, self supporting 1mm dia enameled copper wire, coil OD say 2cm) and connect to this coil your scope probe. Then place this coupling coil near to the top end of you HV coil say a few cm away and start sweeping from the very low frequencies, gradually up and up till you get the first big voltage maximum on the scope, then continue exploring the higher frequencies where else may give newer big amplitudes etc.
This way your detuning effect is the smallest possible and when you find a big voltage maximum try to reposition your coil probe further away to further reduce any loading on the HV coil due to em coupling and always RETUNE finely your generator if the repositioning may have caused some detuning. This is a tiresome and time robbing procedure for sure.

rgds, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on December 11, 2010, 11:26:50 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 05, 2010, 11:17:26 PM
Something I thought of that doesnt make sense to me.

Considering a transformer, lets say step down, say 10 to 1, with 100v in and 10v out.
If ya think about it, on the secondary, the voltage is stepped down, less motive force, less pressure, yet the amperage capability is relatively high. Or the other way around, 100v, high pressure, but low current content. Sounds like something is wrong here. I just really never looked at it that way before. Sounds like basic info, but when we consider the pressure(voltage) capabilities in each situation, something doesnt seem right.

Is it only related to the AWG size of the wire for the pri and sec?

If we looked at a step up as if it were gears and the teeth were turns, The sec, larger gear with more teeth, has more pressure, force, voltage, and low current, low current as in the gear moves slow, things are moving slow on that side, where as the smaller gear, the primary, can be driven with little pressure, voltage, but great amount of movement, current.

I dunno. It seems as if there were a way to make a transformer that had gain, we may be able to apply that idea to gears in some fashion. weird

I just have these crazy visions of it has to be done another way. Its like havin a name you cant recall on the tip of your tongue.

Mags

Mags, Agent Gates thread was topic 8586.
I'm new to the boards and electronics. Ive been playing the SIM and screwed around with the transformer specs. I really feel that you can NOT trust the results at all. Unless I accidentally fell into a perfectly tuned OVER UNITY circuit. ~500x unity!!! 2w in 1kw out. What do Ya'll think???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 12, 2010, 12:38:46 AM

Hey Tek
If you notice, the scope that shows input has a negative scale, of which is reading 13kw, so the sim doesnt really show fault in producing ou as it isnt there in the circuit. I have one that is 11w in and 15kw out, havnt found any fault in it and it worked as imagined for the outcome. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on December 12, 2010, 12:54:39 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 12, 2010, 12:38:46 AM
Hey Tek
If you notice, the scope that shows input has a negative scale, of which is reading 13kw, so the sim doesnt really show fault in producing ou as it isnt there in the circuit. I have one that is 11w in and 15kw out, havnt found any fault in it and it worked as imagined for the outcome. =]

Mags

Not to diss.... please show me so can learn...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on December 12, 2010, 02:00:53 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 30, 2010, 07:57:49 PM
Teets! CRON?

Is that where you use iron wire as a core and it is also the secondary coil?

I had the pat from 1907 last night and I lost it, no history, cant find. I remember it was called a converter as they did back then and the pat is from Philadelphia pa.

It had shown , like I saw in a tesla pat, a coil of wire(iron) with copper coil around it like a toroid, and it had shown other examples.

Mags

Mags, There is a neat little prog called ZTREE, I use it all the time. it is a file handler, the best thing since sliced bread! Configured and used correctly , it is very powerful. Can FIND ,manipulate and organize ANY FILE. It can even be used outside of the operating system (using Ultimate Boot CD) IF IT IS ON YOUR DRIVE and you know kind of what you are looking for ....DOS feel.. ZTREE.COM(PC&MAC and others if used with U-boot cd.) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 12, 2010, 11:47:22 PM

Tek

Here is a sim of 12w in to 1kw out using Teslas Igniter pat circuit. Its source is 2.5v

I will be trying to achieve this using the trisil as the switch. The key will be to have the inductor on the source to flywheel enough to load the cap to the break over voltage of the trisil. So the trisil will only stay on for a very short period, so it will depend on the inductor as to if that time is enough to get it going to load the cap to the break over voltage.
Just trying to eliminate the switch. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 13, 2010, 01:35:54 AM

Something that needs to be said about the sims. This one in particular, where it is either the igniter or ozone circuit, they are the same. Being that there is some hype as to the ozone pat being capable of OU, and also the igniter, but maybe less recognized as so, it is very peculiar that I can produce OU in the sim with this circuit. And quite a good amount of it, not just a smiggin or a sprinkle, we are talking about 100 times out vs in. Margin of error? ;]

The more I mess with the sim and this setup, I am feeling more in tune with what is going on, and what needs to be adjusted next to better the output. Im finding it very hard to believe that the sim is so far off.

Im going to write Falstad to see if he can maybe help us with this, as he may be able to tell us if it is an anomaly that cannot equal real life. Or maybe if he finds it interesting enough, to develop the program a bit further, as in defining air core vs iron or even ferrites. Sidacs Trisils. Motors and bifilars. Things that we might want that is not in the sim lib.
Dunno, just thinking.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tenbatsu on December 13, 2010, 01:40:27 AM

Mags,

Have you tried to reproduce this test in another sim program?

If you are able to reproduce this effect in more than one sim it would greatly help to corroborate your theory.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 13, 2010, 01:52:20 AM

Hey Ten

Will do. I suppose there is Spice, and, any suggestions?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on December 13, 2010, 04:04:42 AM

You guys are kiding, right? did you hear ever, about middle value of current?? voltage and power?? how it is calculate? there is not need another simulation to know there is no OU. And even whats more, you forget to simulate ohmic resistance of primary windings.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 13, 2010, 07:36:08 AM

hmm Iwd

Kidding? no

Do we not want a primary of very low ohms? I will add the tiny resistance for you, but will you be satisfied? Bah, why do you read this thread? Why read this site?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on December 13, 2010, 09:14:36 AM

Resistivity of primary windings is only another small mistake what I see.

Main problem which I was want to warn, is that you calculate with spikes not with real power ..the middle value. And you want to solve it as big thing.(maybe falstad will explain it to you better than me, but point is same.)
And I just want to save you time. That is one of many reasons why I am reading and posting on this forum. Because right now, nobody else is doing it in this thread.
The one of biggest weapon of man kind, is ability of re-giving knowledge, by many ways.
If we do not do that, then we are on same level like animals.
Because everybody who want to research something, can start from point where somebody else finished. If the inventor leave his knowledge for himself, then anybody else must start from begining, and then is almost no progres forward.(like we can see it in previous century)
Of course there must be same technical language for transfer knowledge, or inventors will do not understand with each other.(Like we can see it in many threads.)
For that reason, is there a classical doctrine about electricity. Anybody can learn the basic, you do not need learn complex pattern to undesstand. Just basic, so you can describe something and anybody else will know what you talking about.

There is many people on forum which is able to share his discoveries, and you Mags, are one of them. You can see threads where people have at least little propriety.... so they show up what actualy doing, and these people are inspiring hunderts of folowers and researchers and people are really encouraged to do something.
Of course, If you will soooooooo proud on you discoveries like Tito, then there is just few people whicih is doing something, and rigth now, it is just you Mags, so...answer for you question is...I am here because you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 13, 2010, 01:13:28 PM

Hey IWD

I appreciate what you said. =]

I just believe that this needs to be investigated. I cant let it go stone unturned. Im working on this a bit more in the sim to get most all parts for build as close to what is available.

I see that they are peaks. I see that if we had a large chart, that the 12w(at peak of ramp, not full cycle) vs the out peak, I think things will become more realistic to you. Like the input ramp, average that from 0 to 12, thats 6 w continuous.
1k peaks, I find it hard to believe that even the spaces in between the out spikes, at 6w continuous, can equal over that period of time, the spike energy as a whole.

Lets say all in all, from 6w in, that from the spikes, we can generate 12w continuous, would that sound more reasonable?
8w out? 6.23995w out?

Now take the sim code above and get the pri and sec resonating! hmmm will that fill those gaps?

Have a bit of faith Some here have it and some dont. But no stone unturned. k =]

And I can use all the help I can get or even fresh ideas to try.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on December 14, 2010, 08:30:02 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 13, 2010, 01:13:28 PM

I see that they are peaks.

Actually that is what I had seen. Spikes going off the scope even at 5vdc and 10x setting and now way to pan up or down enough. lol

I am so glad you tried that. Can you post an image?
I never used a sim.
Don't even know how they work. lol
Only a build and my scope. I saw spikes.

So listen to this.

The ozone patent could have pulsed 5 primary working circuits, and at the ohmage each was at, they would have all felt the damped pulse just as hard. lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CodeWebs on December 14, 2010, 12:58:33 PM

Wasn't sure where to post this since all the boards got moved around. I found this paper really thought provoking though: http://nema-uqd.info/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/On_the_Principles_of_Permissible_Overunity_EM_Power_Systems.21335329.pdf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Thaelin on December 20, 2010, 12:16:22 PM

With all the sim work going on here, there is one part of
the puzzle that has never been addressed. Frequency harmonics.
Its a known fact that if you tamper with the Vars, they disappear
right in front of your eyes. What about the 3'rd harmonic or say
the 5th? These two create havoc hell in power systems if not
tended to.
The site on inductive heating shows a working coil of large size
and states it has "very high" circulating current. Tamper with that
and you put an extra load on the input. Would the harmonics do
that? One way to find out I guess. Hmmm?

thay

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 02, 2011, 12:53:31 AM

Well, I found the need to get down to some basic Tesla. I think everyone should build a tesla coil once in their journey through the search for OU. It can teach you things through experience with it that you may never understand, and it also can get you to come up with some interesting questions along the way.

Like, what is the mechanism that determines the voltage across each winding primary vs secondary? 500v per turn, primary and secondary? Why is that? What is the link that causes this equal volt per turn of the primary and secondary? How are the windings individualized amongst one another in that they seen to all find harmony at the same voltage per turn? questions, questions.

I am posting some pics of what I have tinkered with lately, showing some things that I have seen but not yet able to do until I built the mini TC. The secondary is 6in tall, about 200 turns of 30awg radioshack mag wire, and the primary is 2 turns of copper tubing, about 18awg. Discharge caps are Radioshack also, along with the 1kv diodes(2 in series in each leg, and the blue caps are 1kv 560pf in series with the mini neon transformer to limit how much gets to the discharge caps over time as it keeps the neon board happy and cool.

I tried a couple different low no. of turn primaries, even 1 turn, which consists of a piece of 2in copper pipe with a slot cut in it. Worked pretty good considering the mass of copper and 1 turn. 2 turns is the highest so far as it in itself, is equivalent to a bifi coil where each of the 2 adjacent turns are 50% of the total voltage potential difference from each other. I thought that was cool.

Ok, I am going to post some pics, I dont know if I can get them all on tonight, but Ill do my best, and if not Ill get them up tomorrow.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on February 02, 2011, 10:37:43 AM

Good job!

Is the pvc a 1/2 inch?
Also could you post a schematic of the connections?

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 02, 2011, 12:56:21 PM

Hey Niev Thanks ;]

It is 1in pvc.

The light bulb on top is 1 turn aluminum tubing. When I was lighting the other larger bulb, 4w 120v, using one wire from the secondary and my finger as the other connection, I found that it lit brighter on the end closer to the primary.

Gotta get back to work, lunch is over. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 02, 2011, 01:21:41 PM

Mags
WOW!!
Buddy you have skills [guess thats why you make the "Big Bucks":}
Thought you'd like to see this,
User Darkspeed
from here
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=534.msg10316;topicseen#msg10316

Quote:
I started doing more experiments into the operation of a looped tesla transformer.
Imagine a conventional tesla coil where a unit of energy moves up and down the height of the coil like a bouncing ball.
Now bend that coil into a circle so the two ends meet and there is no longer a end to reflect that packet of energy, it is allowed to travel a complete circle.
I built a number of these but while they did function as a amazing display of sparks they would not spin a compass.
My biggest mistake was in thinking they needed to be high frequency, i was leaking power everywhere.
So I needed to slow down the transit time ( RF )
In a conventional tesla transformer this is done with a top load capacity or the addition of a ground at the base.
But this was a loop with a given wire length, so the next obvious choice was adding inductance.
Soft iron wire is a good choice for adding the required inductance to slow down the transit time.
I took a short, wide pvc former and wrapped it with a number of turns of soft iron wire in a single layer fashion.
The number of turns and the proximity to the tesla secondary allowed me to adjust the inductance.
It is a delicate balance between too little inductance and building a heater.
Two interesting things happened.
First I was able to bring the frequency down to a point that I was no longer wasting energy in transmission or discharges, so the packet of energy on its return trip was additive to the next impulse from the tesla primary. Delicate precise pulses adding over a period of time from a low power source.
Great levels of energy can be achieved this way before breakdown occurs.
The second was that i was now moving a magnetic node and antinode around the loop of soft iron wire in relationship to the node and antinode in the tesla secondary. A compass is useful in viewing this up to a point.
Laying a single loop of multi strand wire on top of the soft iron wire inside the tesla secondary produced some interesting results as well.
So for example if I was moving a induced magnetic field around in a circle at 6000 cycles per second and I put a wire in this path so as to drag this magnetic current down the length of this wire, it would be analogous of a generator passing a winding at 360,000 rpm. The result is very high voltage pulsed dc from a short low resistance wire.
----------------------
He's busy getting his bench back up to speed
After a move.

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 02, 2011, 01:34:43 PM

Hey Bud

I relied to the ebike thread, maybe didnt see. ;]

Very cool stuff. Ill check out the site tonight. Any pic over there?

Back later ;]

and its good to be back in action.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 02, 2011, 08:35:14 PM

Hi everyone, hope everyone is fine and cong hei fat soy ;D

I just discovered something which is very natural and no need to use pump.
and i am here again to share this rediscovery.

i will put some attachment on how can we make water freely flow without using any pump. What we only need to do is the starting point ok .

THE POINT IS WE CAN CONVERT THE TECHNOLOGY INTO ELECTRICITY!

Here they are:

The siphoning Technology

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa_440OaQxE&feature=player_embedded#

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 02, 2011, 08:47:41 PM

Teets! cong hei fat soy to you also! ;]

Hows tings?

The problem with the idea you posted is that the water on the lower has to be brought back up to the source container.

A wick system? Can we raise the lower water to the top container and use less energy squeezing it out at the top than what the water produced flowing down? hmm.

Good to see ya around. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 02, 2011, 09:03:42 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 02, 2011, 08:47:41 PM
Teets! cong hei fat soy to you also! ;]

Hows tings?

The problem with the idea you posted is that the water on the lower has to be brought back up to the source container.

A wick system? Can we raise the lower water to the top container and use less energy squeezing it out at the top than what the water produced flowing down? hmm.

Good to see ya around. =]

Mags

no mags

THINK BIG

It is the nature that will sustain itself, we only need some part of it, all we need is a falling action or a momentum action buddy, it will work contineously forever ;)

in continuation with that, i also rediscover that electricity has also sucking and pushing ability wherein it is what we need to make it work contineously.

And this really is a free energy!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 02, 2011, 09:05:46 PM

Teetsla the Plumber!
-> ;D<-
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 02, 2011, 09:09:43 PM

Ohhh The second blue diagram with the larger width pipe above the upper bucket, does it contain more weight in water than the thinner vertical pipe? And that is the part that brings he water back to the top? =]

Magsy

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on February 02, 2011, 09:11:28 PM

Thank you @magluvin!

Those 25khz, are they from an ac source or a dc circuit?

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 02, 2011, 09:16:44 PM

Sorry Niev, that was suppose to be 50khz, well close. The sim will only go to 25k and I forgot to mention that earlier.

It is a small neon transformer from a document scanner like in printers n such. Some older ones run 24v, but most I have are 12v.

Niev did you read my last post? I think Teets is giving today. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 02, 2011, 09:20:05 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 02, 2011, 09:09:43 PM
Ohhh The second blue diagram with the larger width pipe above the upper bucket, does it contain more weight in water than the thinner vertical pipe? And that is the part that brings he water back to the top? =]

Magsy

;) :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 02, 2011, 09:28:24 PM

Thats sweet Teets! Fer real? Are you sayin to go to walmat right now(24hr) and get me some hose, buckets and a small bucket? =] Teeeeets. Honestly, I dont even have to, I get it. And I can see the buckets have to have open tops so the up doesnt interfere with the down. Sick! Sick means good great awesome!

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 02, 2011, 09:31:54 PM

lol Try and do the up part with the chain. Teeets! lol I tell ya, even if it dont work, I still love it. Its just silly!

Teeeets , to have made the elite class!

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 02, 2011, 09:41:19 PM

I see it. Ya have to have the vapor lock to get the effect of heavy weight in the chamber above the upper bucket, and that can be more than the weight of the water in the pipe coming from the lower bucket. Amazing..

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 02, 2011, 09:42:28 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 02, 2011, 09:31:54 PM
lol Try and do the up part with the chain. Teeets! lol I tell ya, even if it dont work, I still love it. Its just silly!

Teeeets , to have made the elite class!

Mags

;D lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on February 02, 2011, 09:43:29 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 02, 2011, 09:16:44 PM
Sorry Niev, that was suppose to be 50khz, well close. The sim will only go to 25k and I forgot to mention that earlier.

It is a small neon transformer from a document scanner like in printers n such. Some older ones run 24v, but most I have are 12v.

Niev did you read my last post? I think Teets is giving today. ;]

Mags

I lost faith on the water electricity after the profesor that claimed that he could make high voltage using water drops. I lost the link to the thread, but he made a youtube video showing an led or a bulb lighting as the water drop passed through a funnel. I cant remember the details exactly.

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 02, 2011, 10:04:42 PM

Niev Try something when you can. very simple. Fill your kitchen sink with water, and take a glass and submerge it till all the air is out of it and raise the glass slowly out of the water upside down. Now feel the weight of the glass as it comes higher out of the water. Now imagine a thin hose to a bucket on the floor that has water in it, and now instead of a glass, use a 1 gallon bucket with the hos attached. Is the weight of the upside down bucket more than the weight of the water in the hose to the floor? Heck yeah it is. Infact you need to get that water out of the sink and into the bucket before it runs out or you will lose vapor lock.

try it, the glass trick, and feel the power. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on February 03, 2011, 12:37:24 AM

Quote from: nievesoliveras on February 02, 2011, 09:43:29 PM
I lost faith on the water electricity after the profesor that claimed that he could make high voltage using water drops. I lost the link to the thread, but he made a youtube video showing an led or a bulb lighting as the water drop passed through a funnel. I cant remember the details exactly.

Jesus

Jesus is this the vid? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY1eyLEo8_A

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2011, 12:57:34 AM

Simple but powerful is the best policy ok 8)

Amazing isn't it ;D

happy swimming in the drum ;D lol

ps. i hope sir wattsup can Catchup. what a rhyme joke ;D

i think i need some pride chicken and a catsup ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on February 03, 2011, 01:08:07 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2011, 12:57:34 AM
Simple but powerful is the best policy ok 8)

Amazing isn't it ;D

happy swimming in the drum ;D lol

or this one...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMwAijgsWz4

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2011, 01:11:43 AM

Hey Teets
Now I am beginning to understand the dipole. I am trying to translate the water idea to electronic.
Not that the water idea isnt good enough, but try it to power a car or cell phone on the go. ;]

Im going to try the water tomorrow. I figure the lower water level just needs to be equal or lower than the upper water level to prove the point. Heck, it could be used to water fields horizontally from a source a great distance. How old is this idea?

Great show teets.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2011, 01:19:26 AM

Quote from: TEKTRON on February 03, 2011, 01:08:07 AM

or this one...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMwAijgsWz4

ooooh well not bad buddy :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2011, 01:20:16 AM

Tech have you seen the water idea? It is a way to get water up hill without pumps, without power, as long as there is water below and the vapor lock is not broken, we have literal antigravity and the water wil pump itself up 24/7. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2011, 01:23:11 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 03, 2011, 01:11:43 AM
Hey Teets
Now I am beginning to understand the dipole. I am trying to translate the water idea to electronic.
Not that the water idea isnt good enough, but try it to power a car or cell phone on the go. ;]

Im going to try the water tomorrow. I figure the lower water level just needs to be equal or lower than the upper water level to prove the point. Heck, it could be used to water fields horizontally from a source a great distance. How old is this idea?

Great show teets.

Mags

That's my buddy ! ;D

take care!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on February 03, 2011, 01:24:46 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 03, 2011, 01:20:16 AM
Tech have you seen the water idea? It is a way to get water up hill without pumps, without power, as long as there is water below and the vapor lock is not broken, we have literal antigravity and the water wil pump itself up 24/7. =]

Mags

I believe you are referring to the water hammer or something?
I really don't know about that technology.
I do know that you can not, under vacuum draw water over 33 feet vertical in one single step though.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2011, 01:32:39 AM

Teets, have you tried this yet? Im imagining lets say the small bucket in the upper reservoir with a hose attached and loaded up, but the hose just goes to the same reservoir instead of a lower source reservior, which would make it an easier job and still prove the point, but I imagine upside down bucket and hose under water to load them up and out of air, and raise the bucket above reservoir level, im not seeing the water flow as I did before. Still gunna try, but now im not so sure.

Like I said, even if it dont work, I wont be mad. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2011, 01:53:45 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 03, 2011, 01:32:39 AM
Teets, have you tried this yet? Im imagining lets say the small bucket in the upper reservoir with a hose attached and loaded up, but the hose just goes to the same reservoir instead of a lower source reservior, which would make it an easier job and still prove the point, but I imagine upside down bucket and hose under water to load them up and out of air, and raise the bucket above reservoir level, im not seeing the water flow as I did before. Still gunna try, but now im not so sure.

Like I said, even if it dont work, I wont be mad. ;]

Mags

Well, first of all i discover this when i am making a swimming in the drum. ;D

and i find it working in my mind like tesla ;D

To give you more effective design, well the hose in the source where its connected should be bigger and going smaller and smaller up to the size of the hose so that the weight of water in the source add up some pushing effect up ok. hope you get it, oh boy i'm loosing my english! ;D lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 03, 2011, 02:42:06 AM

To make it work nicely we need a big water container at elevated place. It is a weight of water which makes the inertia, correct ?

The same sometimes happen when a big barrel of beer has hole on bottom. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2011, 02:53:11 AM

Quote from: forest on February 03, 2011, 02:42:06 AM
To make it work nicely we need a big water container at elevated place. It is a weight of water which makes the inertia, correct ?

The same sometimes happen when a big barrel of beer has hole on bottom. ;D

correct buddy!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2011, 03:18:25 AM

i think using this technology we can make a man made Falls.

and from there we can make hydro electric plant right?

i want you to see this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYCxiZoffDM&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgngVxdjXAQ

here is the secret to make it work:

THE CONTAINER SHOULD LOOK A LITTLE LIKE AN IGLOO.

The plan is to make the water flow up above the container.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 03, 2011, 08:46:40 AM

HHMMmmmm...............
Well Teets,
I guess we'll all be playin with buckets and hoses today?

Chet
PS
Why like an Igloo?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on February 03, 2011, 10:34:52 AM

Sorry but the premise is wrong for that second blue design.

First of all, if you took that diagram with all bodies filled to where they are shown, the top small tank will empty into the top bottom tank and the suction will happen upwards for the bottom tank until you reach an equilibrium at which point any remaining water in the top small tank will just drop.

The video you showed of that guy with the water bottle means nothing and is only normal suction effect.

The analogy used of a glass submerged in water then lifted from the bottom up is not the same thing as your diagram. The glass has its bottom (now top) closed. Your diagram does not. Also work was done to lift the glass.

In general, you will never be able to get the water to keep in the position as shown in your diagram because water does not work that way at all. As you fill those lines they will just empty out into their tanks and overflow.

Nice try though.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Doug1 on February 03, 2011, 12:09:59 PM

Tito
I have never run into anyone who has ever known of anyone who could truely make anything out of nothing as if from thin air or empty space.
So far as I know you can only convert one thing to another thing. A large amount of power would require a large endless source of something you could convert over. The effiecency at which it is used will determine the rate it needs to be replenished. If losses can be reduced then only a fibble amount of something at a sustainable rate will be needed to keep the process working. The way the JT works is what you should be focussing on. Consider bimetal windings and a current carring core with a demensional circumfrence of a loop antanna set at 7.5 hrtz.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2011, 01:04:23 PM

Yahoo search " 133px-SiphonStillWorksWithBigLeg.svg.png

Even the title above of the second blue diagram points it out that it will operate the same as the normal idea of siphon as shown in the first blue diagram.

I had not had a chance to try yet. will after work. But I think that if we measured pressure per square in in the elevated cavity, lets say a wide cavity holding more volume vs a another elevated cavity of less width and volume, but at the same height, the pressure per square in should be the same at the top inlet hose that comes from the lower bucket, in both case. In your experience while swimming in the drum, =], you may have tried to elevated 2 different volume containers and felt that the larger was heavier, but that is only because of more square inches out of the surface of the reservoir.

Nice thought teets, but im doubting very hard now. ;] still not mad. =]

will test later today, but i believe I know what will happen.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2011, 09:27:06 PM

Well titos water works, well dont work. Water levels want to level out, just as I began to realize last night when I came down from cloud 9.

I had never seen this particular water idea before. Took me by surprise. =0 But it was a lesson.

Bad teets bad. lol ;]

Ok back to the real world, to find the outer limits.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2011, 10:06:01 PM

Something I ran across in a pdf on the Adams motor, seems to lend to the idea that voltage itself has harmonics.

I read this and I dont know what to think. Never heard this before. Does anyone know of any other references to this?

Magmonics =]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on February 04, 2011, 11:00:21 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 02, 2011, 10:04:42 PM
Niev Try something when you can. very simple. Fill your kitchen sink with water, and take a glass and submerge it till all the air is out of it and raise the glass slowly out of the water upside down. Now feel the weight of the glass as it comes higher out of the water. Now imagine a thin hose to a bucket on the floor that has water in it, and now instead of a glass, use a 1 gallon bucket with the hos attached. Is the weight of the upside down bucket more than the weight of the water in the hose to the floor? Heck yeah it is. Infact you need to get that water out of the sink and into the bucket before it runs out or you will lose vapor lock.

try it, the glass trick, and feel the power. ;]

Mags

I will try it as soon as I can.

Quote from: TEKTRON on February 03, 2011, 12:37:24 AM

Jesus is this the vid? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY1eyLEo8_A

Yes that is one of the videos.

Jesus

I saw the video you posted after this post and the guy there did prove that the energy is real and it seems that it restored my faith again back.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2011, 01:01:52 PM

Niev

Dont bother, it doesnt work as I later that night suspected. Tito Trix :'(

It was an exciting thought. It had my mind going on how to get the same effect electrically. Distraction. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2011, 01:08:15 PM

Oh yeah

Watt's description was accurate. What I realized while trying was, you can feel the weight of the water while suspending the inverted container, and that feeling of more weight gets ya to thinking wow, that would be a lot of pressure and be able to siphon as tito inspired. But in reality, the only place that weighted pressure is applied, was to my hands while holding it in place. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2011, 01:14:52 PM

Hey Teets

Your thread here just broke 50,000 reads last night, and there has been 300 since.

How bout a little bit of something real. just a peanut. we just might get to 100k reads by the end of the week.

Just a popcorn seed. you like seeds? ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 04, 2011, 01:17:56 PM

Mags
It's about the weight of ALL water in container. It makes pressure for any point inside water. This pressure is weakened when water level is falling.

That's I think about it. If ether is under pressure then any hole will make a siphon. Sustain hole and we have continuous flow of ether via siphon. But how to make this electrical siphon ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2011, 07:19:08 PM

Hey Forest

I even tried to have an air bubble at the to of the water filled inverted container, thinking possibly that the water weight would have a greater effect by decreasing the pressure of the bubble, but still, pounds per square inch beats all ways.

I tried the Trisils. I dont know if Im doing anything wrong, but they dont work as suspected. The Sidacs seem to do very well and very predictable. But they dont beat a spark gap. So what device can we use to truly come close, or even better than a gap? Searching for the silent solid state gap. Unless the rotary switch is the way to go ultimately.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on February 05, 2011, 01:04:39 AM

I've always wanted to try this but haven't had time.
A boiler maker once told me that when they make large water tanks
they fill them with water to pressure test them. When it comes time to
drain them, if they forget to open the vent on top, the tank will crush
like a beer can. so I came up with this

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 05, 2011, 01:23:58 AM

Crush the tank. Exactly. Because thats where most all the pressure per square inch is on the surface of the tank. But the top hose inlet, is lets say 1 inch, and thats all the pressure it gets. So if you look at the surface of the tank, lets give it 2000 square inches, compared to the 1 inch inlet, the water in the siphon tube to the right will weigh enough to siphon from left to right, until the source is depleted or both water levels are equal. I wished it worked, trust me. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 05, 2011, 07:10:50 AM

Quote from: Doug1 on February 03, 2011, 12:09:59 PM
Tito
I have never run into anyone who has ever known of anyone who could truely make anything out of nothing as if from thin air or empty space.
So far as I know you can only convert one thing to another thing. A large amount of power would require a large endless source of something you could convert over. The effiecency at which it is used will determine the rate it needs to be replenished. If losses can be reduced then only a fibble amount of something at a sustainable rate will be needed to keep the process working. The way the JT works is what you should be focussing on. Consider bimetal windings and a current carring core with a demensional circumfrence of a loop antanna set at 7.5 hrtz.

Hi doug1 good day ;D
I want to change your perspective and belief ok.
Believe that there is God, There is Jesus, believe that everything is created out of nothing READ THE HOLY BIBLE OK ;)

Now!, We were created in his own image and likeness ok read GENESIS ok

Now!, For every problem there is always one sure way or solution ok, its only the state of your mind that makes something into impossible, now believe even you don't see it that everything is possible ok? ;) ;D

its always depends on the design :)

We are in an open path, everything can be a source of energy, everything that is unbalance possesses an energy.

Remember a Triode?, the third added portion only needs a little power to control a huge amount of energy right?

And do you remember the yin and yang belief that it can control a huge amount of energy using a little energy ok.

Now, also why is the jt become reality? do you know that before it was discovered, it is impossible right?

We are now nearing and nearing ok ;D

NOW! NOW! NOW ;D here is my last and closest clue to the water trick:

WATER ALSO AND ALWAYS SEEK AN EQUALITY OR BALANCE, THEREFORE THAT WE SHOULD ALWAYS PUT IN OUR MIND THAT WHEN THERE IS UNBALANCE MASS THEN THERE IS ALWAYS STRESS AND PRESSURE AND ENERGY SEEKING COMMON DENOMINATOR ;D

The question should be how to use the whole weight of the water?, try the point of contact. ::) ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 05, 2011, 07:50:10 AM

Hi everyone

BE STILL AND KNOW THAT JESUS IS GOD, IF EVERYTHING IS FAILED, NO WORRY JESUS IS OUR HOPE OK DON'T PANIC! ;D

THERE IS NO DEATH IF YOU ARE IN JESUS, BELIEVE ME :)

THE DEATH IN FLESH IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF ETERNAL LIFE. :)

NOW! WANT TO KNOW JESUS MORE? HERE IS MY TIP TO ALL OF YOU TRY TO SEARCH CHARLES STANLEY, HE PREACHES THE REAL WAY TO JESUS, BELIEVE ME EVERYONE.

WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH? TRUST ME THAT'S THE WAY.

ALWAYS HUMBLE YOURSELVES TO THE LORD JESUS. HELL IS REAL.

JESUS WANT TO SAVE OUR SOUL, JUST REPENT AND HUMBLE YOUR SELVES TO HIM. LOVE YOU ALL BRO.

READ THE BIBLE, DON'T LEAN ON YOUR UNDERSTANDING TRUST JESUS. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 05, 2011, 09:51:51 AM

Teets
Good you have found your salvation,also good you want others to experience this!

There are no boundarys to that power,but we seem to have some boundarys in the energy department?

Chaloopa is still waiting to wash your car,
Can you really run a refridgerator on a watch battery?
Or do you just "Think" you can?

Our water is all frozen here, so she can't do any washing till spring.
She's been dusting off stars to keep busy!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 05, 2011, 01:50:57 PM

How about a Toaster ?
On say A triple A battery? That would be Nice!!
?
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 05, 2011, 02:07:03 PM

Hey

Give me home heater 30kW started from 9V battery and I would be happy ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 05, 2011, 02:11:18 PM

hmmm well tito, I am a full believer in God and Jesus. And I think its cool of you to say what you said.

But for now, I dont have time to chase clues that dont make sense. And whether you are what you say you are above, I think you are causing distraction. You havnt posted here since the last time I posted.
I tried to show the peeps my TC, and ya jump in and run riddles on a completely off the wall ideas and the clues seem to be so far off that nobody here gets them. Every once in a while you let someone know that they have something, but really we are left with a bunch of wasted time money and effort. Im not mad or angry, but it is hard to be happy with what you are doing. Really though, what of what you have discovered has anyone here been able to accomplish from what you have told?
I dont know of anything so far. So really all this time in this thread, do you really think you have helped anyone get something done?

Like the water idea. I saw something there that was an illusion and you supported my delusion. Dont you see that you were wrong in doing that? I could have been doing more work with my coils n spark gaps.

Distraction! Everyones att. was diverted with the lil water sham, except for those already in the know. That not right teets and it doesnt work.

I like some things about ya teets, but now, not all of it.

I have no problem with you preaching about God and Jesus, but as many promises that you have broken here, most will have doubts about your faith also, as it describes this type of insight in the bible. Cry wolf once, cry wolf twice, cry wolf 3 times, then when you cry Jesus has come, nobody will believe you. get it? Not a good mix.

Anyway, back to business. I will comment on your post from here on, but I cannot waste more experimental time on them.

You are welcome anytime, its your house. =] And I will pray for you so that you may see what I am saying. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: neptune on February 05, 2011, 03:14:09 PM

On this planet , there are 2057 different religions . The followers of any one of these will tell you that theirs is the "only true religion" and unless you join you will burn in hell . Obviously 2056 of these are mistaken , and statistically this casts doubt on the 2057th case . Apart from oil ,religion is the most common cause of war on earth . So why would you be surprised or disappointed that I do not subscribe to your particular beliefs .
Many years ago , when I was driving trucks for a living , I gave a lift to an Irishman . He asked me if I was a Protestant or a Catholic . I answered truthfully that I was an Atheist . He replied , "Yes but is it the Protestant or the Catholic god that you don't believe in ? " The bottom line is , believe in whatever you want , but keep it to yourself . This is an Energy Forum .

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 05, 2011, 10:06:42 PM

Well said Mags!,your a good man .

Thanks

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 05, 2011, 10:43:26 PM

Quote from: neptune on February 05, 2011, 03:14:09 PM
On this planet , there are 2057 different religions . The followers of any one of these will tell you that theirs is the "only true religion" and unless you join you will burn in hell . Obviously 2056 of these are mistaken , and statistically this casts doubt on the 2057th case . Apart from oil ,religion is the most common cause of war on earth . So why would you be surprised or disappointed that I do not subscribe to your particular beliefs .
Many years ago , when I was driving trucks for a living , I gave a lift to an Irishman . He asked me if I was a Protestant or a Catholic . I answered truthfully that I was an Atheist . He replied , "Yes but is it the Protestant or the Catholic god that you don't believe in ? " The bottom line is , believe in whatever you want , but keep it to yourself . This is an Energy Forum .

ohhh, i feel so sad, i was just trying to grab the opportunity because theres a lot of readers reading this thread, i thought it its the right moment to introduce JESUS cause before, i don't believe to God also but you know what? it is in his creation why why i become a believer, let me give you a simple example, if you study your eyes, there is a nerve connected going to the brain, do you think its a product of accident? and also it is your conscience that God is real.

no matter how many religion there is in this world, the dealing of the Lord to us is personal and it is in repentance and accepting Jesus is the real way to win salvation.

AND I DON'T WANT TO KEEP WHAT JESUS HAS DONE FOR ME, HE DIED FOR US REMEMBER! >:(

Your waisting all your time in this forum if you will disregard JESUS!.

i will not feel disappointed if you will not accept what i have said, i just done my part to share Jesus to all cause it is a sin of not doing good.

And to all:

Why punish your self starting from a very small source wherein there is already at least 9v battery available and this is the best source to start!
though there is yes a solution starting from thin air.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 05, 2011, 10:56:58 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 05, 2011, 02:11:18 PM
hmmm well tito, I am a full believer in God and Jesus. And I think its cool of you to say what you said.

But for now, I dont have time to chase clues that dont make sense. And whether you are what you say you are above, I think you are causing distraction. You havnt posted here since the last time I posted.
I tried to show the peeps my TC, and ya jump in and run riddles on a completely off the wall ideas and the clues seem to be so far off that nobody here gets them. Every once in a while you let someone know that they have something, but really we are left with a bunch of wasted time money and effort. Im not mad or angry, but it is hard to be happy with what you are doing. Really though, what of what you have discovered has anyone here been able to accomplish from what you have told?
I dont know of anything so far. So really all this time in this thread, do you really think you have helped anyone get something done?

Like the water idea. I saw something there that was an illusion and you supported my delusion. Dont you see that you were wrong in doing that? I could have been doing more work with my coils n spark gaps.

Distraction! Everyones att. was diverted with the lil water sham, except for those already in the know. That not right teets and it doesnt work.

I like some things about ya teets, but now, not all of it.

I have no problem with you preaching about God and Jesus, but as many promises that you have broken here, most will have doubts about your faith also, as it describes this type of insight in the bible. Cry wolf once, cry wolf twice, cry wolf 3 times, then when you cry Jesus has come, nobody will believe you. get it? Not a good mix.

Anyway, back to business. I will comment on your post from here on, but I cannot waste more experimental time on them.

You are welcome anytime, its your house. =] And I will pray for you so that you may see what I am saying. ;]

Mags

okay i'm sorry for distraction i made but what i post is not an illusion its truth, you didn't able to make it work, its not my problem at least i gave you the hint to start.

What i promised is that there is a sure way to free energy but i didn't promised give it in detail , promise changed because of some circumstances.

i'm sorry, you may now continue with your work. don't mind me anymore its ok. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 05, 2011, 11:01:42 PM

HOW MANY VARIANTS OF EXPERIMENT DID YOU DO? 1,2,3,4,5,6,7... ?

NOT ENOUGH!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 05, 2011, 11:09:13 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 06, 2011, 12:01:33 AM

Teeter

Here is one more point to make about the water deal. When I had claimed to understand it and then described what I thought was going on, why did you agree and congratulate me?
I tried what we were talking about, and 3 different versions other than what we discussed, when acctually what we discussed didnt even work, what am I suppose to think teets?
As jerry maguire said, " Help me help you, help me help you"

And lets say it like this. If you thought I had it, and were cool with it, why not tell me what I am doing wrong like a good fellow man. How can anyone believe anything at all if it is only half baked?

If it is real, will you not help us to figure it out? Hmmm? Teeetsy?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on February 06, 2011, 07:45:34 AM

@magluvin

You are an excellent experimenter. It is just that you lack confidence on your ability.
That lack of confidence on your abilities is what @tito is playing with.

If you want a self running circuit. Use your electronics ability to send to the running battery a high voltage spike from a high voltage capacitor once a minute while the circuit is running.

That is fill the capacitor for a minute and release it for a moment.

The high voltage spike will be accepted without problem. Remember, it cannot be too long the time used by the spark. Just a sudden spark throuh a diode to the positive terminal.

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Doug1 on February 06, 2011, 08:50:59 AM

Tito
God is not nothing nor are his/her/it's resources. Nothing is what ever does not exist in "any" form.
Even God follows conservitive laws to some extent.
Im sure God is enjoying your water in a can theory,wonder if God had some concern the oceans might drip away into space. Maybe thats why we have gravity.Which is inclussive to all everywhere and might be the can's problem.The can and the water are equally effected by the same conditions or restrictions. If it were workable you could just syphon all the water up hill to a lower air preasure if not for the fact that gravity trumps air preasure.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pese on February 06, 2011, 01:56:30 PM

Quote from: TEKTRON on February 05, 2011, 01:04:39 AM
I've always wanted to try this but haven't had time.
A boiler maker once told me that when they make large water tanks
they fill them with water to pressure test them. When it comes time to
drain them, if they forget to open the vent on top, the tank will crush
like a beer can. so I came up with this

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 06, 2011, 02:15:50 PM

Hey Pese

Thats the oldest one in the book. ;] It looks as though the water on the left has more weight and would force water up the tube. Build it and you will quickly understand. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 06, 2011, 02:19:12 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 05, 2011, 11:01:42 PM

WATER WORKS WORKS!

HOW MANY VARIANTS OF EXPERIMENT DID YOU DO? 1,2,3,4,5,6,7... ?

IT TOOK ME 5 TIMES

in case anyone did not catch what Teets originally wrote then edited. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2011, 06:23:48 PM

:( :( :( :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2011, 06:34:57 PM

Quote from: pese on February 06, 2011, 01:56:30 PM
;D

Hi sir pese good day!

This (pict you showed) will not work because you are not getting the whole weight of the water ok.

what i had said is that: How can we use the whole weight of the water.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 06, 2011, 06:35:21 PM

I know you want people to play your lil game. Its just not any fun teets. no fun. :'(

magsad2

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2011, 06:48:55 PM

I think i need some space,

lets cool off for a while ok darling?

;D

lets wait for someone who can solve the puzzle.

for the meantime i'll just make some swimming first.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 06, 2011, 07:05:53 PM

If I were to ask all others to post here saying yes they are happy with what you have presented or to post no, not happy with it, any of it, I would bet on no.
I dont think that many would bother to waist their breath on this, but my bet would be on the no's.

Lol now watch a bunch of yes's post. lol oh well I cant stay focused on the electronics and play in the water teets. I know that is what you want me to do, but I wont. Not unless there is better info.
You want us to think about something that has been well over thought since time began, and all you can show is a siphon pic, and say work on that instead. I think its funny. Im not going to do it

Magno

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2011, 07:12:27 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 06, 2011, 07:05:53 PM
If I were to ask all others to post here saying yes they are happy with what you have presented or to post no, not happy with it, any of it, I would bet on no.
I dont think that many would bother to waist their breath on this, but my bet would be on the no's.

Lol now watch a bunch of yes's post. lol oh well I cant stay focused on the electronics and play in the water teets. I know that is what you want me to do, but I wont. Not unless there is better info.
You want us to think about something that has been well over thought since time began, and all you can show is a siphon pic, and say work on that instead. I think its funny. Im not going to do it

Magno

ok, i will think first, cause if i will show it, they will get it right away.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 06, 2011, 07:13:52 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2011, 06:48:55 PM
I think i need some space,

lets cool off for a while ok darling?

;D

lets wait for someone who can solve the puzzle.

for the meantime i'll just make some swimming first.

Lets wait for someone to solve the puzzle. See thats what sucks. Nobody has solved any of your puzzles. none. That is what you want, to present puzzles that cant be done. Most will agree.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 06, 2011, 07:35:59 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2011, 07:12:27 PM
ok, i will think first, cause if i will show it, they will get it right away.

They will get it right away? Why would you not want anyone to get it? Thats what I have been saying here. ;) Think teets, think! Do you like how thing are going in this world? Dont you think things could be better? For YOU and ME and THEY? And we will still need the electronic versions for devices we dont want to charge. Cant fit all that water in a Hyundai. ;]

But if you plan on just dragging it out, we have to assume its not real. we have to. :P

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 06, 2011, 07:46:08 PM

Well u think about the new puzzle, I gotta wash clothes. My washer is a Siphon T6000, and it charges my car while I wash. lol would be nice.
Ya know how it is when others open presents at christmas that you gave them, dont you think you would feel that good feeling? I would. I have felt that, and its a nice feeling. Tinlgly.

See ya in a lil while teets to see what you have come up with or not. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 06, 2011, 10:11:42 PM

Teets Is A meany,

And there is no way our Lord would want this to be about money!

NO WAY TEETS!!

On to whom much is given much is required!

Very simple TEETSLA!

No Puzzles no riddles !

EVIL TEETS can't win!!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 06, 2011, 11:34:18 PM

I had dreams of grandeur at one time. And really the one way to become a success and become wealthy from FE would be to have enough backing of serious people, but those that are powerful enough are not on our side. It would be doom to the idea and inventor.
And probably all tesla material is gov owned and they just intervene when someone shows that they got something going. Even if they never seen what you have come up with, they Will stake their claim on it and you.

After all I have read, open source is The way. Everyone can make their own, and those that cant will always know someone who could. Heck some may be ok with the power companies to use the idea and deliver super cheap power because it is so cheap cheap cheap. Most people like convention, and the system is in place.

But if it is easy and safe, there would be no stopping a good idea from getting around.

I would love to start an electric car conversion company. Thats how I would make money to take advantage of free energy. Conversions are way cheaper to do then buying a new electric, and with the conversion, you can have it your way? And many would go for the conversions to their cars, due too they have more money to spend because due to no gas and power bills, cheaper food and commodities across the board.

Thing is, word of it would have to spread like a gang of bandits, it needs to get blown out there so fast, shutting down the internet wouldnt help them, you know They. ;)

Anyway, I personally dont like the way the world is going, and maybe fe wont help at all.
I had never been interested in politics before. But the things that are going on are horrific and something needs to change. And definitely not the change Obama has been into. And even though the gop got the house, things may not be what they seem, from our point of view.

Anyways if I find something good, I will tell. Maybe first in pms to many, here , yt , our, make fliers and hand them out, bang bang Unstoppable, what else, Heck get email addresses of all students of sciences and send it. Some will dig it. I dunno
It might take teamwork. It might just take a good post. ;] Guests and spiders welcome.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 06, 2011, 11:52:44 PM

Off topic

Teets or anyone,

I have a laptop, Alienware Area 51 M7700 Recently had problems with the clock and dates going a wander. Then my hd drive wasnt booting. So I changed the backup batt, 3v li and the clock set through bios is back. The old cell read .170v when still in the board and jumped up to 2v when removed. It was far gone.

Im running xp pro, but the drive is not fully recognized. I have the original OS disk and all the driver disks.

I would like to be able to restore the drive but there is an issue with it I believe software wise. She will load up and recognize the drive, show the windows screen with the blue wait buzzing across the bar, but by the time it gets to 1 and 3/4 passes, blue screen. If I want to format and reload the os, she doesnt recognize the drive in xp setup. It asks when the setup first starts, press f6 to load 3rd party raid drivers, but I sont have a floppy it asks for let alone the drive. Is there any way around this?

Its a crappy problem I know. Been working on it since last night. I dont have a usb adapter that works with this hd to extract what is on it to another drive on my pc so I can reload anew.

Appreciate any help. Thanks.

Magslappopped

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 07, 2011, 03:05:27 AM

If you have an installation CD with the same service pack then run from it and choose to repair system (not replace) , there is an option to press R to do this but it's a kind of tricky because this option is in somehow not clear place (to me) in installation menu - I always have problems to find it.
That would replace all system files with fresh ones from instalaltion CD.

Ooops, I missed that part you said that hdd drive is not visible to the installer.That's not good.Maybe some tool like fixmbr can help.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 07, 2011, 03:16:55 AM

Proposition of solving puzzle:

Take a water container with large amount of water in rather thin can to have big pressure on a hole in the bottom . In the hole mount a tube changing diameter from bigger to smaller . At the end of tube there should be very high pressure of waterjet. Make it work on turbine generating electric current and store in big capacitor or battery or allow to directly power efficient water pump with hose of much bigger diameter then the outlet from container. Of course there should be another container at the bottom to collect water.
Pump water from bottom container back to the top using this efficient pump.
Because outlet from upper container has short diameter water flow fast from it with high pressure but the amount of water depleted from container is small.

Tito ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pese on February 07, 2011, 08:56:20 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2011, 06:34:57 PM
Hi sir pese good day!

This (pict you showed) will not work because you are not getting the whole weight of the water ok.

what i had said is that: How can we use the whole weight of the water.

This was only an JOKE
(i taked it from "overunity.de")

Also it was only for : "Nonsens"

BUT, think about this to find out an better way...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on February 07, 2011, 11:11:30 AM

Quote from: forest on February 07, 2011, 03:16:55 AM
Proposition of solving puzzle:

Take a water container with large amount of water in rather thin can to have big pressure on a hole in the bottom . In the hole mount a tube changing diameter from bigger to smaller . At the end of tube there should be very high pressure of waterjet. Make it work on turbine generating electric current and store in big capacitor or battery or allow to directly power efficient water pump with hose of much bigger diameter then the outlet from container. Of course there should be another container at the bottom to collect water.
Pump water from bottom container back to the top using this efficient pump.
Because outlet from upper container has short diameter water flow fast from it with high pressure but the amount of water depleted from container is small.

Tito ?

Water pressure due to gravity in an unsealed container depends.... guess what .... only on the depth of water at the measurement point. In other words, the size of the outlet tube doesn't matter as far as pressure is concerned. You will of course get more _flow rate_ at a given pressure from a larger diameter tube. Don't believe me? Then do some experiments for yourself.

This is a "gravity powered" system you are talking about. In other words, just like all gravity "powered" systems, you get out what you put in--- minus losses. Sure, use a "super efficient" pump to cycle the water back up to the top reservoir.... but no matter how clever you are in pumpmaking or stringing pipes, the falling water can only provide the same amount of energy as it took to get it up there in the first place by whatever method you choose.... minus losses.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 07, 2011, 01:09:19 PM

Thanks for trying Forest.
I finally found a forum that describes my problem to a T. But their solution isnt working for me yet. I tried the fixmbr, chkdsk, and a multitude of other things.

It appears that there are a lot of others with the problem. I tried Nlite which copies the OS disk to a folder then you can add drivers and it embeds them into the folder software. The problem is the disk wont auto run/boot, even if I remove the hard drive from the boot list. Im at lunch. Tonight I will try to load the folder to a usb ram drive as those are acceptable to boot from.

Thanks for trying though. I like ya forest, you are good people. ;]

I hope I can get this going so I can get to fiddling. =]

I have a larger neon transformer pack to try the AV plug, as I think it will charge much faster using 1 wire. I have to order larger caps. I was going to get some a while back, but things got in the way of getting that done. I like what they are finding with the Kapanadze thread. But the claim of radiation steps me back a bit.
Its funny, Tesla was involved with so much power zapping all around him, yet he lived a long life. Hopefully we come up with something safe.

The water deal, cant say if we will ever know what teets is thinking. I really just dont want to go through a lot of trouble for nothing, again. We cant keep jumping around to ever new ideas and never finish anything. So far, we would have a better chance at winning in Vegas for the weekend.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on February 07, 2011, 02:22:48 PM

to Magluvin about the laptop

I was trying to solve almost same problem with XP instalation, If Nlite does not help you, then you do not have much possibility left.
some laptos have in bios a settings where you can specify how system acces the hdd, as raid or classic IDE of course for xp you must select IDE or some emluation if is there this option.
Otherwise you can just install windows vista or windows 7 and then downgrading it to XP http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/vsta-dwngrd.html
(if you dont like windwos 7 or vista as I)

About electronic... I was already tried to charge cap from hv spikes form coil to value about 1500v and then discharge it to 12v source battery, of course I was playing with timing and with value of caps and manny other thing, as for example magneticaly quenched sparg gap, and also with diode.
I also tried cap charged to value about 500-600 volts and then discharge it to battery over mossfet with various timing independent to charging circuit. Also with another coil, and also with step-down transofrmer.
But no succes

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on February 07, 2011, 02:29:13 PM

[OffTopic]

Hi Magluvin,

Does the Hard drive show up in BIOS?

If it does try tapping F8 while the computer is booting to see if you can start in safe mode.

When my windows has PMS I use Slax(linux) a lightweight OS which I boot from a USB stick to access windows files. This will also mount the laptop hard drive if it is still accessible. Then you can dump important files to CD-ROM/USB stick before wiping.

http://www.slax.org/

If you can get access to a working system. It's very easy to install just unpack the tar file onto the usb stick run the bootinst.bat and it's good to go. Just make sure BIOS is set to boot from removable device on the laptop. It's a handy backup to have.

[/OffTopic]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on February 07, 2011, 03:15:12 PM

@Magluvin

If you can't get into the hard disk via the windows dos prompt, then you will have to remove the hard disk, install it as a secondary hard drive in another computer, then check your hard disk C drive root directory for the file "ntldr" without an extension. If this file is missing, you will not be able to open windows. Just copy the ntldr from the working computer root directory to yours and this will fix the problem. It has happened to me before.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Doug1 on February 07, 2011, 06:33:26 PM

Mags
Personally I am in the middle of building a Inbert down draft gasifier with a 30 gal hopper big enough to take full size fire wood. It will produce hot water and hot air if i get the calcs right the fuel to run a forge and even a i.c.e. generator for 12+ hours per load of wood. I cant see spending every second and every extra penny on ideas that may or may not work.I can see saving 400 a month to reinvest into the lofty ideas once I have an alternative to the expenses of heat hot water and a portion of my electric bill. The money that would have gone toward feeding the utillity companies will be well spent against them at they'er loss rather then mine. This tactic is what is used against all of us by the governing bodies and utillity companies.Such a system is not practical for everyone but the stratigy to save your income for use as you see fit instead of to pay a premium for all your comforts will get you there.
Yea yea Ive been taking pics will doc it ect.. once it is done.When energy goes up 2or300% it will be a lot more attractive even to those who think it is not what they want now.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 08, 2011, 07:16:26 AM

Hey guys
I really appreciate all the help with the laptop problem. Didnt get a chance to mess with it yesterday. I have had a lack of sleep lately. Cant get to sleep til 3 n 4 am. Night before was past 5. Strange thing is, was waking up fresh. But last night, ate then slept.
I think maybe my Nero software didnt make the cd auto play. xp cd does auto play, so the machine is ok in that respect. If this nero dont work, I will try some of the ideas also.

I have a couple usb hd cases and 1 does fit the sata, the others are ide. But the drive didnt work with it. It may be a special drive. I have had drives from particular machines that I wasnt able to use on other machines. For a good example, Xbox drives. No go.

One good thing is, others with this Alienware have had the identical prob. So there is hope. The one guy on the forum asked for help for a while, and had a lot of it. Once he finally got it, he didnt give the solution, never came back , and others inquired that they needed the solution. =[

Im persistent when it comes to these things, I will get it.

Thanks again ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 08, 2011, 07:21:00 AM

Doug
Very cool. Does it require any alterations to the generator to accept the wood gas?
Its not really free, but it is an alternative to gas as prices climb.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Doug1 on February 08, 2011, 07:59:18 AM

The gas needs to be cooled down so it will consintrate and it needs to be scrubbed or cleaned through filtration before air is added to it for combustion. It is high in nitrogen so the filter process should be such that it will reduce that content as well before the ice.
The straight tube style in the simple gasifier looses the ventura effect of the Imbert which is why the simple version takes so long to reach the fuel cracking temps and waste reduction.An upside down double "V" tappered to work as a screen will work better and provide twice the surface area for heat dissapation at the base of the reaction zone.It also gives ya a area to reintroduce some of the gasses back into the last part of the burn if it is not being used for something ells.Still trying to decide if it should include some of the condinsate from the fuel in the hopper as it dries out from the heat surounding the hopper. It's a lot of extra work but it worked well at Sloss Furnace to crack water into HHO and send into the system as another extra fuel.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 08, 2011, 06:58:36 PM

Was thinking today of the water idea halfway presented by Tito.
Not on how it might work, but as to why he presented it. Sorry teets, but this is the thought process that you have instilled.

I think that maybe it was a diversion. From what? That is what I was thinking about. ;]

What? My lil Tesla coil project? hmmm. Na couldnt be. Could it?

Was it my voltage doubler after the neon supply? hmm. umm, was it the 2 turn primary? Na, dont think so.

Well, I do have something different than just a TC. That was when a light went on in my mind. ;D Just a maybe. ;)

Could that 1 turn at the top with the light bulb lit, could there be something there?

If the discharge caps get charged to a level that breaches the spark gap, then that energy that it took to charge the cap each time will always be the same, no matter what the load. So most likely measuring the input for changes when applying different or numerous loads, the input will always be the same.

Now, that lil 1 turn at the top. In my setup, the secondary is open ended, meaning no connections at either end. Yet that bulb lights when put anywhere on that secondary, just a bit brighter when closer to the primary. So im going to do some tests in that area, to see what happens when I have multiple, what should we call them, Extra Coils, to see if adding more affects the others. Titos past clues suggest that once things are setup, that the more coils the more energy out in total. Something like that.

I decided not to be deterred. Im thinking the water works was a distraction.
He has switched the subject on me before, maybe from ideas I presented that come close to the real deal. Dunno yet. Its just what me thinks. ;]

Another thing I was thinking about the setup is, what is going on with how the primary pulse travels the open ended secondary. Is it acting like a core of sorts? Can we tap off of it without affecting the other taps and get more power from the total?

I just got home and spit it out there to see what some may think on what I think here.

Just a hunch. Maybe Titi has spilled some beans along the way and wants to clean them up before anyone sees. Me thinks.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 08, 2011, 09:03:34 PM

I have to say Mags,His actions aren't very humanitarian,
Most Creepy actually!
Somehow his idea of what a Godly man would do with such
Knowledge has grown into a VERY questionable position!

Deceit /lying would be an appropriate venue for such a man .
?
Chet
Ps
Your idea on the other thread for a "Testing" apparatus!

Excellent! Could be a good OU tool,as well as Safety.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 08, 2011, 09:12:07 PM

Hey Chets
Yeah It sucks. I liked Teets. But it has gotten weird.

Yep, the detectors should be a tool of need for electrical, hho(atomic level shizzy), etc.

Im looking into it now. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on February 10, 2011, 01:08:31 AM

(off topic)
Mags did u fix ur puter? I use Ultimate boot CD Bart PE. Works Great. Lots of tools and forum support.
This disk can boot any computer and lots of systems. DO NOT use the dos CHKDISK on any other system than XP or it will screw up the system. Good luck with it. John

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 02:51:39 AM

aT the first glance you saw it was a great idea, you almost even praise me.

I taught its a great show mags.

and you also said you won't get mad

So you didn't solve the puzzle, then thinking that it is a diversion and distraction

ok

leave all my post and continue your brilliant works, no problem. >:(

Now i think that's really you.

you like me but you don't like me that's weird ;D

VERY FUNNY ;D

ps: Fluid can raise a tons of weight! and weight can be transformed 8)

try to analyzed the water when you put some solid in the container.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on February 10, 2011, 09:37:17 AM

Dont worry man, now you can act like neglected genius, as is usual for people like you. You do not even able to recognize that you words dont have weigth, because you change your opinion several times.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2011, 11:44:47 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 02:51:39 AM
aT the first glance you saw it was a great idea, you almost even praise me.

I taught its a great show mags.

and you also said you won't get mad

So you didn't solve the puzzle, then thinking that it is a diversion and distraction

ok

leave all my post and continue your brilliant works, no problem. >:(

Your right Tito my works are not good enough for your thread. I will make my own thread. I am not in competition with you. I was just trying to figure out this mess of a thread, but I cant. So I will leave it for you. 8) Now it will be just you and ALL of your friends you have made here. ;)

Magluvins Oven

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 10, 2011, 02:27:43 PM

Well spoken Mags

Forestus Gump ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 08:26:57 PM

ok fine!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 10, 2011, 08:31:49 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 02:51:39 AM
ps: Fluid can raise a tons of weight! and weight can be transformed 8)

try to analyzed the water when you put some solid in the container.

Hi, Tito.
You want to rediscover here something that was alredy discovered long time ago. In eastern Europe kids study this in their elementary schools. It's called BUOYANCY and the governing principle is called ARCHIMEDES'S PRINCIPLE. Here you can find more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buoyancy
Also helpful can be this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siphon

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 09:10:54 PM

Quote from: Qwert on February 10, 2011, 08:31:49 PM
Hi, Tito.
You want to rediscover here something that was alredy discovered long time ago. In eastern Europe kids study this in their elementary schools. It's called BUOYANCY and the governing principle is called ARCHIMEDES'S PRINCIPLE. Here you can find more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buoyancy
Also helpful can be this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siphon

WEll yes buoyancy but how to use that effectively is different story, anyway thanks :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 09:21:50 PM

Quote from: IWD on February 10, 2011, 09:37:17 AM
Dont worry man, now you can act like neglected genius, as is usual for people like you. You do not even able to recognize that you words dont have weigth, because you change your opinion several times.

:-\ tsk, tsk ,tsk

frustrated attitude tsk,tsk,tsk,tsk
:-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 09:37:40 PM

hi everyone

THIS THREAD IS NOW OFFICIALLY CLOSED

BYE
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 10, 2011, 09:55:21 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 10:12:17 PM

:P :P :P
:P ;D :P
:P :P :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 10, 2011, 10:19:58 PM

So How come you don't like Mags anymore?
He's like the best Guy we got!!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 10:29:47 PM

Quote from: ramset on February 10, 2011, 10:19:58 PM
So How come you don't like Mags anymore?
He's like the best Guy we got!!

Chet

he's got nothing!
;D

The problem in this world is laziness.

if you give something and if they didn't get it, they will get mad on you
and from there they want to get everything you have :D

and from now on i won't give any idea anymore, just keep it with my sons.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 10, 2011, 10:38:59 PM

I remember a guy called Tito ,he had nothing!

Someone helped him..... ,Then one day that all changed!

Tings can change!!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2011, 10:39:51 PM

Hey Chet

Its not really a matter of who likes who. ;]

Im just tired of puzzles designed by people that dont know how to make puzzles.

Ever do a puzzle only to find that a piece or 2 are missing. They are not in the box, not on the table and not on the floor. The only place they are is at the puzzle company. And you can only get them from them. Tito the puzzle company. But his puzzles are missing major sections, and some of the pieces have no picture, so they dont fit the picture anywhere.

And when you call the Tito Puzzle Co. Some guy laughs at you and says you have to make them yourself and figure out what was the picture on that part cuz he aint gunna show you. Companies like that never last, friends either.

I havnt done a puzzle since I was a kid. And Im not interested now. this is a game to him. It has been for a long time. And what have we accomplished from it? Hmm?
50,000 + pages of puzzles without a multitude of pieces and dwindling interest.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2011, 10:46:15 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 10:29:47 PM
he's got nothing!
;D

The problem in this world is laziness.

if you give something and if they didn't get it, they will get mad on you
and from there they want to get everything you have :D

and from now on i won't give any idea anymore, just keep it with my sons.

See chet 'Hes got nothing', Thats his game. Its so transparent what his intentions are.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 10, 2011, 10:49:17 PM

Tito
Perhaps you show your boys the shortcut to Hell?

Great Dad!
Teach them how to worship your real God.
Mammon

Wouldn't want to be in your shoes!
Fair thee well..................................

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 10:54:55 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 10, 2011, 10:46:15 PM
See chet 'Hes got nothing', Thats his game. Its so transparent what his intentions are.

Mags

you know what if you solved at least one, i am very very happy but you didn't solved anything so i'm not happy. :(

my intension is good, i always encourage everyone ok mags! but i don't give the complete detail and thats me!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 10:55:43 PM

CO'Z THATS!!!!!!! MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 10:56:16 PM

JUST DO WHAT YOU CAN DO OK!!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2011, 10:57:38 PM

You win

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 11:00:54 PM

Quote from: ramset on February 10, 2011, 10:49:17 PM
Tito
Perhaps you show your boys the shortcut to Hell?

Great Dad!
Teach them how to worship your real God.
Mammon

Wouldn't want to be in your shoes!
Fair thee well..................................

Chet

YOUR WRONG CHET!!!

IF YOU DID NOT GIVE YOUR DESIGN TO A FRIEND, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOUR GOING TO HELL ,ITS JUST YOU CARE FOR THE FUTURE OF YOUR SON OK! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 11:01:56 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 10, 2011, 10:57:38 PM
You win

SORRY MAGS :(

BYE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 10, 2011, 11:09:06 PM

HHMMMMmmmmmmmm.
The Lords word according to Tito

"IT IS MINE"

Don't remember anything like that in my Bible?
Your on the wrong side of the word Teets,
you've switched teams!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 10, 2011, 11:21:21 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 09:10:54 PM
WEll yes buoyancy but how to use that effectively is different story, anyway thanks :)

Sorry, Tito. The environment you are living in, is called UTOPIA. And there is only one guy who could help you there: Jesus Christ.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 11:28:42 PM

Quote from: ramset on February 10, 2011, 11:09:06 PM
HHMMMMmmmmmmmm.
The Lords word according to Tito

"IT IS MINE"

Don't remember anything like that in my Bible?
Your on the wrong side of the word Teets,
you've switched teams!

Chet

Your conclusion is wrong again chet, will i have to use 'it doesn't mean' again? mine is mine yours is yours its okay to me if you don't share it, i'm happy where you've come up ok. that's yours. :)

i think it is you who is in wrong switch, you might electrocuted. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2011, 11:32:38 PM

Quote from: Qwert on February 10, 2011, 11:21:21 PM
Sorry, Tito. The environment you are living in, is called UTOPIA. And there is only one guy who could help you there: Jesus Christ.

See! it is Jesus Christ that can save where ever i am. This life is just life so don't be so bother there is still a better one waiting. and everything there is free.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 10, 2011, 11:41:52 PM

Tito
Someday soon your secret will be worthless!

The way it should be!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2011, 11:44:04 PM

Chets

We can assume he never had anything to begin with.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 11, 2011, 02:32:35 AM

Remember what I posted about water pressure on hole at the bottom of container. It may be that the missing puzzle is the floating piston above. Its weight will add to the pressure of water column and make more spin on generator turbine.Generator is powering the pump which recycles water back to upper container. The secon missing puzzle is how to build such piston which must be heavy and still floating on water surface.
Here is a tricky way ;D

Make a piston empty with a hole on bottom and a valve, make additional tube through the piston not in contain with empty area inside but protruding directly to the bottom and second hole and second valve.
Valves need to be electrically or mechanically opened/closed.

I would try to draw schematic and explain how it works.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 11, 2011, 03:13:57 AM

Hmm..quite complicated but it may work.
A1,A2,A3 are electrical valves. B is a valve which allow only air to escape not water.
C is a support released by electrical impulse.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: broli on February 11, 2011, 10:10:04 AM

Oh boy oh boy oh boy. How can a thread get this long with little to no progress. And ironically the ones who try to make progress get shot down.

Tito, people like you are dangerous on the Internet, you need serious psychological help because you have some serious disorder which you are only making worse with every post. Your attention seeking narcissistic personality disorder should be treated by a professional.

The bad thing about the Internet is that everyone can use it, people with some serious issues or a traumatic past get the chance to project their issues online in all kind of strange forms. It takes simple common sense to see this in this thread.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 11, 2011, 12:17:16 PM

Continuation...

1.Initial stage : piston is filled with water, all valves are closed ,upper container is filled with water from A3 up to C.
2. C is released and A3 is opened. Water flow by own gravity and piston weight pressure.
3. Water is flowing through A3 valve turning turbine which generate electric current powering water pump . Water is pumped above piston ; piston weight is bigger and bigger in time, water pressure is almost not changing (compare it to the gravity only when water pressure on valve depends on water level above)
4.When piston touches bottom of upper container A2 valve is opened and water from inside of the piston is escaping.Then A2 and A3 are closed and water flows through then hole across piston and fills the space below piston (which now empty) pressing piston up.

This schematic need a lot of improvements to convert most of valves to mechanical devices eliminating as much electric energy usage as possible.Anyway,it's just a theoretical schematic.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2011, 05:28:31 AM

Quote from: broli on February 11, 2011, 10:10:04 AM
Oh boy oh boy oh boy. How can a thread get this long with little to no progress. And ironically the ones who try to make progress get shot down.

Tito, people like you are dangerous on the Internet, you need serious psychological help because you have some serious disorder which you are only making worse with every post. Your attention seeking narcissistic personality disorder should be treated by a professional.

The bad thing about the Internet is that everyone can use it, people with some serious issues or a traumatic past get the chance to project their issues online in all kind of strange forms. It takes simple common sense to see this in this thread.

hi bro ;D

The way i see your comment i think it is you who need psychological help.
you reading capability is not enough man! mags continue his work in other thread, is that ok now to you good reader?!

Yes! it takes simple common sense if sense is common to you brilliant reader!
i'm not seeking attention here, i just shared a little info! got it?, best reader?, huh!

You know what? a person can be know if he is intelligent or nothing, the way he talk and make his words if they are sensible or not!.

One more thing bro! You need to eat more BROCOLI for your eyesight. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 12, 2011, 12:56:51 PM

Well thats a great Christian attitude you have there Tito. And it shows. ;)

Have you ever considered that maybe it is YOUR grammar, or the way YOU convey your thoughts, and that this may be why most ANYBODY doesnt get what you are saying? HMMM?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on February 12, 2011, 02:14:59 PM

First of all my critique of the water tanks design was only a critique in the way it was shown in the drawings. I never tried to accuse anyone of trying to divert the thread, etc.

Guys, you should try and exercise some restraint in how and what you post because I feel you guys post on a whim of momentary inspiration. Think hard on what you are trying to say. There was no need to denigrate Tito for bringing up an idea. An idea is only that. An idea.

So here you go at my crack at the best possible method to work out his water tank system. First of all, I get paid big bucks to work out water problems. That is my profession.

The top tank has a second tank upside down with the top exiting into a laminar flow tube that is connected to three pipe, one is wider then the next but all have valves on them V1, V2 and V3. During tests only one of the valves will be used to find the right riser tube diameter and valve opening required to make the water loop.

On the top tank you have a bottom flexible tube (T4) that goes up then down to an low adjustment valve (V4). The flexible upcurve of T4 can be set at a variable height over the exit level to adjust for the maximum head available for emptying the top tank into the bottom tank via the V4 final adjustment.

With such a set-up you would be able to tinker with all the variables to find the best optimal setting to make the water flow upwards from the bottom tank, into the top tank and back down again.

Now, if it works or not is always up for debate, but at least with such a set-up, you have a pretty nice toy to play around with and LEARN. That's why we are here, RIGHT? We're not here to cut each other up into pieces. The world has already mastered that one.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 12, 2011, 06:36:55 PM

Quote from: wattsup on February 12, 2011, 02:14:59 PM
Now, if it works or not is always up for debate, but at least with such a set-up, you have a pretty nice toy to play around with and LEARN. That's why we are here, RIGHT? We're not here to cut each other up into pieces. The world has already mastered that one.

wattsup

You don't need to be an engineer to see this system will not work. If one doesn't see that, he (she) must start the basic education in an elementary school.
This system can work only if the bottom tank is hermetically closed, then heated up.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on February 12, 2011, 10:08:48 PM

Quote from: Qwert on February 12, 2011, 06:36:55 PM
You don't have to be an engineer to see this system will not work. If one doesn't see that, he (she) must start the basic education in an elementary school.
This system can work only if the bottom tank is hermetically closed, then heated up.

@Qwert

No need to get overly my man.

This is only a mind exercise. The only reason I went this far is because there is a small small window of opportunity in this design that could work if the right mix of top tank height, top inverse tank size and riser tube diameters are just right, this could produce an erratic but functional loop. It has to do with the suction developed in the inverted tank versus the head force available in the top tank that want to empty out into the bottom tank, where the inverted tank is set deep enough into the top tank to allow or create a generous but controlled suction. The top tank would have to be on a lift to vary its height versus the lower tank to obtain the right head range, otherwise regardless of the other variables, this would never have a chance of working. If anyone every tries this, make sure the top tank is adjustable in height compared to the bottom tank to find the right level. There will be a height that will move the flow in the direction of those arrows. If this does not work, it will be the closest you could get before thinking of adding anything else.

Of course don't expect it to turn a turbine generator or anything of that sort. But the mind exercise is rather enjoyable and a good change from the coil pulsing devices I usually do. I just wanted to give Tito's idea a fair shake and it was enjoyable.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: fritznien on February 13, 2011, 12:48:12 AM

Quote from: wattsup on February 12, 2011, 10:08:48 PM
@Qwert

No need to get overly my man.

This is only a mind exercise. The only reason I went this far is because there is a small small window of opportunity in this design that could work if the right mix of top tank height, top inverse tank size and riser tube diameters are just right, this could produce an erratic but functional loop. It has to do with the suction developed in the inverted tank versus the head force available in the top tank that want to empty out into the bottom tank, where the inverted tank is set deep enough into the top tank to allow or create a generous but controlled suction. The top tank would have to be on a lift to vary its height versus the lower tank to obtain the right head range, otherwise regardless of the other variables, this would never have a chance of working. If anyone every tries this, make sure the top tank is adjustable in height compared to the bottom tank to find the right level. There will be a height that will move the flow in the direction of those arrows. If this does not work, it will be the closest you could get before thinking of adding anything else.

Of course don't expect it to turn a turbine generator or anything of that sort. But the mind exercise is rather enjoyable and a good change from the coil pulsing devices I usually do. I just wanted to give Tito's idea a fair shake and it was enjoyable.

wattsup

the only way to get the fluid to flow into the top tank is to lower the fluid level in the top tank below the level of the bottom tank.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siphon
the outlet is always below the inlet
diameter has nothing to do with it.
your mind exercise lacks basic information.
get yourself hoses buckets etc and try it out for your self.
fritznien

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2011, 01:24:07 AM

@ sir wattsup

I just want to give thanks to you sir for neutralizing everything here. ;D

That's why I really admire you and respect you sir. :)

and because of that i really deserve some punishment because of my behavior.

but don't worry sir i will not give anymore idea so that no one will quarrel me in this forum anymore ;D

thanks again sir ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2011, 02:56:29 AM

hi everyone reading this thread,

forget everything in a moment i just want all of you to know that

using SILVER WIRE will give us best result ;)

goodbye and i'll now going to hide ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 13, 2011, 10:12:22 AM

Tito
I really don't have a problem with You,I have a problem with who you say you are!

A "practicing Christian"

If you truly do have a device that can save lives[a soul],even just one life[one soul]!
And you choose to make money instead of saving the life [soul].
You are absolutely kidding your self...,and just because the ground hasn't opened up and swallowed you doesn;t make your position correct!
Don't preach gospel out of one side of your mouth and condemn to death, souls you could save out the other side of your mouth.
I'm sure you prayed for this ,back when you were searching?,now you got what you prayed for,A HUGE responsibility!
Life or death ,Saved or lost!

SOULS ....................
A tool to save millions!

Early missionaries saved countless souls with technology.

This could work the same way for you!
Or you could walk by fear !

Silver?
How about 30 pieces ?
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 13, 2011, 10:57:59 AM

Luke 12:48

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 19, 2011, 02:12:19 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 10, 2010, 04:21:59 AM
OK EVERYONE PLEASE LISTEN :'(

In this thread, the questions should be:

a) How to convert small kicks into big kicks, this is known already ok? now!

CAPACITOR, for example with Avramenko plug and grounded from one leg. BUT it is not as efficient as expected. Tito ,is there a better way to store many small kicks in capacitor ?
Also here is my question : we CAN have many various signals various frequencies running down the single wire to Avramenko plug. Would it handle all at once ? I would rather try to find other method without using diode which is the weakest point here.

Quote

b) The second is How to convert one kick into multiple kicks ???

Now! that is simple ok, if you can't get that!, I don't know to you!!!!@!@#@#$#@

sample of one kick into multiple kicks :=> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hm3O3jRKW4&feature=related
i am sure that no one is prohibiting us to add many more disk ok?.

Like this one=> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fldu5l8_Ips&feature=related
oh gussssssh this is ovious! :o

THAT'S ALL ????! Are those two (a and b) sufficient to get OU ? I can see it but my faith is not so strong :'( to build another not working crap

P.S. Could somebody draw for me how to get back-emf from single flyback with a diode back to battery ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on February 19, 2011, 03:47:04 PM

When will you guys stop being fooled by the Tito. He talks out of his ass and reminds me of IST. He doesn't have anything and if he did he wouldn't share it anyways.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 19, 2011, 06:14:12 PM

http://www.youtube.com/user/hfaistio#p/u/1/cvIlqp9p-Ag

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 19, 2011, 06:25:33 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRyKVU6YzYw

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 19, 2011, 06:32:44 PM

Quote from: forest on February 19, 2011, 02:12:19 PM
....

P.S. Could somebody draw for me how to get back-emf from single flyback with a diode back to battery ?

Hi forest,

Here are two links to your question:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4419.msg97648#msg97648

http://www.energeticforum.com/inductive-resistor/4314-cop-17-heater-rosemary-ainslie.html#post56075

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 20, 2011, 10:00:25 AM

I think we took the wrong way. May I propose the following new approach to find the solution ?

ONE QUESTION PER THREAD and very precise. Means that for this thread we need to find ENERGY AMPLIFICATION and we should propose EXPERIMENT after a while of theoretical discussion.
Experiment must be of obvious usability for ordinary usage , stated by a question related to the topic.

I propose: I need to boil a 1 litre of water for a coffee/tea for my family using electric kettle.
How to get 2200W of usable electrical power during 4 minutes required to boil 1 litre of water using 12V 7Ah sealed lead acid battery and ENERGY AMPLIFICATION process , without depleting battery (small energy loss is allowed) ?

Please :
1. Propose technic of energy amplification.
2. Propose math for energy computation.
3. Propose circuit.

Let's begin serious work.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 21, 2011, 03:23:03 PM

Ok,time to compute something.

1. Technic of energy amplification to use : capacitor discharge.
Main problem : how to charge faster then discharge rate ?

2. Some crude math ;D
2200W = 2200 J/s (or 528000J per 4 minutes)

I assume 230V 50Hz current, that means 50 cycles or 100 impulses per second (one positive and one negative per cycle). It gives 22J per impulse. Huge.
To impulse the same using a capacitor 250V rated we have to choose:
E=0.5*C*U^2 (energy in cap) -> C=2*(E/U^2)=2*(22J/250V^2)=704uF
Huge.Ugly.

But...what if we could rise rate of impulses to 22khz ? That means 22000 impulses per second.
2200J/22000=0.1J per impulse

C=2*(0.1J/250V^2)=3.2uF.

Still a lot but here I made assumption :
Energy in capacitors is the same if those (!) capacitors are connected in series or in parallel.
Is that true ? I don't know, but it sounds good.

So we could take 4 1uF/400V capacitors and charge them in series, then discharge at parallel at rate >= 22khz.

In series those capacitors would form 0.25uF capacitor rated at 1600V.

From above I conclude that if we could charge 0.25uF capacitor to 1000V or above at the rate 220khz or more (500khz for example) then such amplification would be possible.

Questions :
How to charge those capacitors at the rate >220khz ?
What is better to discharge them ? A rotary spark gap at 1000V when connected in series or a mosfet at 250V when connected in parallel ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 21, 2011, 03:52:54 PM

Some thoughts :
Discharging when connected in series using spark gap, I expect oscillation happen so the rate may be lowered many times IMHO. Also the output current may be safe cold electricity.The other problem is impedance : if output current would be of very high frequency oscillations then would electric kettle work with it ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 21, 2011, 03:59:28 PM

Continuation :

when discharging in parallel 3 mosfets are needed plus one for discharging process actually.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 22, 2011, 05:04:43 AM

Hey Mr.mag Don't mind my ass it's mine! you mind yours that's yours! :-\

see the picture below there is a more better solution to this.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 22, 2011, 07:17:48 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 22, 2011, 05:04:43 AM
Hey Mr.mag Don't mind my ass it's mine! you mind yours that's yours! :-\

see the picture below there is a more better solution to this.

Here is the question. Are those diodes required to charge capacitor from bemf ? Tesla didn't have diodes.Hmm... Bedini is using one diode only. Strange.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pese on February 22, 2011, 07:48:38 AM

Quote from: forest on February 21, 2011, 03:59:28 PM
Continuation :

when discharging in parallel 3 mosfets are needed plus one for discharging process actually.

Ad the CD Polority for Input Voltages
them for each Capacitors that charge up
(give attention to charged polarity!)
If you close now the relais, you understand.
this give an BREAK-Sgoted Ciricuit without any output
Pese

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 22, 2011, 07:54:39 AM

Hey forest
Just here to help ya. That drawing is the same as the Ossie motor also, which he claims is a runner and a charger. I dont know what Titos better solution is. He always says he has one and will let you know it, except he wont let you know the solution. Just like the zener spark gap, will congratulate you only to tell you that he has a better way every time. etc etc

I found it tough to get 2 reeds to open and close together, considering rotor magnets are not always equal, so out of 4 mags 1 or 2 may not control the reeds exactly like the other 1 or 2. It would be better to have a reed that contains 2 switches do they will switch on and off at the same time, in this circuit it is important.

Magning

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 22, 2011, 08:15:55 AM

Well Tito
This Guy lives in the Phillipines,and has something he claims will change our world,just like you he wants some mula [he's not a religious man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5n1BTU0vM4

Perhaps you or one of your helpers can get in touch with him?
He has been on the TV in the phillipines and claims the gov't will be testing his tech,
If you can find out more and share it here,maybe Chaloopa will take your picture off the Dart Board.

%$@$*
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 22, 2011, 10:48:12 AM

Tito
Your on deck!

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9720.new#new
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 22, 2011, 12:24:50 PM

TITO
BATTER UP
[If you don't call him ,You know I will!=}

But you should !
It would be Good for your Image and Morale around here!

Chet
PS
OK a secret code for you to answer
Number >1< means yes ,I will call him
Number >2< means No ,I don't want to call him
Number >3< means what the heck you talkin about?

Just so you know ,This guy is in the Phillipines [could be your next door neighbor] and he's gonna steal your O U thunder.
Yep ,You should find out if he's got the goods?
God works in mysterious ways?
Let me know please 24 hrs [tomorrow 8 pm ,on Stefans forum clock]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 22, 2011, 09:45:15 PM

Hey Teets,
While your deciding I crunched some Numbers for yah
Whats it been 730 days since you started braggin
Bout your TPU?

HHHMMmmmmmmmmmmm the Math is 24,000.00
Children Starve to Death every day ,Never mind woman and Old folks ,Just Kids

Thats One Million Six Hundred eighty thousand Souls!
Since Tito started playing his I know something you don't know game!

I wonder how many would still be here If you shared your knowledge??

Buddy I'd be crappin in my pants about meeting the big man upstairs if I was you!
All those eyes staring back at you!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 12:32:39 AM

Hi everyone ! ;D

nice to see you again, i just showed the picture just to tell you that i currently made something much better than what i showed, so that what i'm expecting is that you will study that also, so that you will scrutinize that pict ;D

Ismael aviso is my fellowmen yes! and i believe he also discovered the expanding technology.

@ramset
why should i call him. i know that already! >:( ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on February 23, 2011, 12:39:26 AM

Quote from: ramset on February 22, 2011, 09:45:15 PM
Hey Teets,
While your deciding I crunched some Numbers for yah
Whats it been 730 days since you started braggin
Bout your TPU?

HHHMMmmmmmmmmmmm the Math is 24,000.00
Children Starve to Death every day ,Never mind woman and Old folks ,Just Kids

Thats One Million Six Hundred eighty thousand Souls!
Since Tito started playing his I know something you don't know game!

I wonder how many would still be here If you shared your knowledge??

Buddy I'd be crappin in my pants about meeting the big man upstairs if I was you!
All those eyes staring back at you!!

why is the "big man upstairs" letting 24,000 kids (never mind women and old folks) die every day? that doesn't sound like much of a "big man" at all... ::)

that being said, teetsla doesn't know jack squat. if i were you chet, i'd be more concerned about meeting your "big man upstairs" after wasting so much time doing something close to nothing but different than yesterday with teetsla!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 23, 2011, 01:48:59 AM

Tito

ferrite is needed or I can throw it out ? I mean , in falling dominoes ? :D

one big hose into multiple tiny pipes or multiple short thick hoses each one having own tiny output pipe ?
in other words : does it matter how I use fingers if those are parts of my hand ?
1. Imagine each finger plays different tone on piano but still this is one move of my hand
or
2. can I use my fist to press many piano keys at ones ?

now I think it is related with cold electricity as Dole shown us. With cold electricity you can light many bulbs and each bulb does not take energy for the other bulb near. Look at his last video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cppRSRHj6A
Without that we could try and try and try and still first receiver eats all energy of transmiter and subsequent ones as barely powered.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 23, 2011, 01:53:33 AM

each piano tone should go to capacitor of course as lot as possible
see Innovation youtube videos

but here is the main big pain in ass : without finding the correct timing it is a one key piano and others are not powerful, got it ?

I'm still searching for the method to get it into OU. Unstable.

P.S. you know that diode bridge is two Avramenko plugs ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 02:17:52 AM

.

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 02:21:30 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on February 23, 2011, 12:39:26 AM
why is the "big man upstairs" letting 24,000 kids (never mind women and old folks) die every day? that doesn't sound like much of a "big man" at all... ::)

that being said, teetsla doesn't know jack squat. if i were you chet, i'd be more concerned about meeting your "big man upstairs" after wasting so much time doing something close to nothing but different than yesterday with teetsla!

So why are you doing that? i now feel afraid, ok i think i have to hide now
goodbye friends

They are driving me away

is there really big foot upstairs owh boy i'm really afraid are they giants? ??? :o

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 02:43:27 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 02:17:52 AM
.
;D

.
ASTALAVISTA BABYSITTER
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 02:53:16 AM

Quote from: ramset on February 22, 2011, 08:15:55 AM
Well Tito
This Guy lives in the Phillipines,and has something he claims will change our world,just like you he wants some mula [he's not a religious man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5n1BTU0vM4

Perhaps you or one of your helpers can get in touch with him?
He has been on the TV in the phillipines and claims the gov't will be testing his tech,
If you can find out more and share it here,maybe Chaloopa will take your picture off the Dart Board.

%$@$*
Chet

HI chet

peace be with you darling, may you rest in peace. joke ;D

:P
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 02:55:51 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 02:21:30 AM
So why are you doing that? i now feel afraid, ok i think i have to hide now
goodbye friends

They are driving me away

is there really big foot upstairs owh boy i'm really afraid are they giants? ??? :o

;D

ok don't worry i'm DAVID AND I'M GIANTKILLER ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 03:00:33 AM

HI everyone

seriously, i smell something about the game ;)

so everyone benefit with the free energy learned here so whats the massive effect ? 8)

FYI, my one foot is bigger than the other one, therefore i'm also half bigfoot ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 03:13:07 AM

Quote from: ramset on February 22, 2011, 12:24:50 PM
TITO
BATTER UP
[If you don't call him ,You know I will!=}

But you should !
It would be Good for your Image and Morale around here!

Chet
PS
OK a secret code for you to answer
Number >1< means yes ,I will call him
Number >2< means No ,I don't want to call him
Number >3< means what the heck you talkin about?

Just so you know ,This guy is in the Phillipines [could be your next door neighbor] and he's gonna steal your O U thunder.
Yep ,You should find out if he's got the goods?
God works in mysterious ways?
Let me know please 24 hrs [tomorrow 8 pm ,on Stefans forum clock]

i don't care if he can get it, and thats good. i have my own way don't panic ok ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 03:15:47 AM

is this a game of death? ;)

don't worry i'm always ready with my e-gun ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 23, 2011, 04:24:17 AM

Wilby
The death of innocents no doubt causes our creator great anguish ,Some seem to like playing games with the knowledge that could change that.

I recall another story of a man that tried to cash in on
a gift from an angel.
Hubbard.
He left this world broken and miserable.
Perhaps just like the men that run this world ,The Men who could step over the starving bodies of children on their way to play a game of Golf,Tito will also have a wonderful life.
But he most definately isn't behaving the way a Godly Man
with this Knowledge would!

And I don't know how he sleeps at night ,or what he could possibly say when he prays to God?

But Wilby you are an athiest. atheists step over the bodies all the time on their way thru life ,unlike Tito who claims to be a born again christian !

End Of story
Luke 12 :48

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 04:36:28 AM

Quote from: ramset on February 23, 2011, 04:24:17 AM
Wilby
The death of innocents no doubt causes our creator great anguish ,Some seem to like playing games with the knowledge that could change that.

I recall another story of a man that tried to cash in on
a gift from an angel.
Hubbard.
He left this world broken and miserable.
Perhaps just like the men that run this world ,The Men who could step over the starving bodies of children on their way to play a game of Golf,Tito will also have a wonderful life.
But he most definately isn't behaving the way a Godly Man
with this Knowledge would!

And I don't know how he sleeps at night ,or what he could possibly say when he prays to God?

But Wilby you are an athiest. atheists step over the bodies all the time on their way thru life ,unlike Tito who claims to be a born again christian !

End Of story
Luke 12 :48

Chet

Sorry bud, you're one of the bigfoot upstairs, and i think you're the youngest. ;D

you tell challopa that i'm a good chef , i eat dogs ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on February 23, 2011, 04:42:21 AM

Quote from: ramset on February 23, 2011, 04:24:17 AM
Wilby
The death of innocents no doubt causes our creator great anguish ,Some seem to like playing games with the knowledge that could change that.

is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
then he is not omnipotent...

is he able, but not willing?
then he is malevolent...

is he both able and willing?
then whence cometh evil?

is he neither able nor willing?
then why call him god?
- epicurus

end of story.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 23, 2011, 04:48:26 AM

Proverbs 26:11

-----------------
Btw Tito, I do work for the man upstairs,
I build furniture for Handicapped children!

Have a good life Tito [and I mean that]
I hope someday ,just like myself ,you finally "get it".
It ain't about the Money!

ChetKremens@gmail.com
PS
I also pray that Wilby gets it too someday!
{Ha!, wouldn't that be Grand !>}

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on February 23, 2011, 04:51:36 AM

Quote from: ramset on February 23, 2011, 04:48:26 AM
Proverbs 26:11

;D yes, i know chet... this is the way you live (returning to your vomit with your repeated references to your imaginary friends...). did chaloopa teach you that or is it just innate in everyone with blind faith in the holy babble?

just leave your imaginary friends out of the discussion please.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 23, 2011, 04:56:34 AM

But Wilby ,your one of My imaginary Freinds?

I gotta go back to sleep,alot to do later!

The Kids need me!!
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 04:58:14 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on February 23, 2011, 04:42:21 AM
is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
then he is not omnipotent...

is he able, but not willing?
then he is malevolent...

is he both able and willing?
then whence cometh evil?

is he neither able nor willing?
then why call him god?
- epicurus

end of story.

hey willbronchitis ;D

You're not reading the bible!
Don't you know that God set a sure appointed Time for everything?

His way of thinking is not the way you think, your nothing if compared ok!

He is God because you're human, his master piece!

start of story ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on February 23, 2011, 05:03:06 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 04:58:14 AM
hey willbronchitis ;D

You're not reading the bible!
Don't you know that God set a sure appointed Time for everything?

His way of thinking is not the way you think, your nothing if compared ok!

He is God because you're human, his master piece!

i've read the bible numerous times. great piece of sordid literature (and i use the word loosely), lots of violence, intercourse (of all sorts), political intrigue, etc. it's a good science fiction book, but certainly not proof of some imaginary shepherd entity... ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 05:13:58 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on February 23, 2011, 05:03:06 AM
i've read the bible numerous times. great piece of sordid literature (and i use the word loosely), lots of violence, intercourse (of all sorts), political intrigue, etc. it's a good science fiction book, but certainly not proof of some imaginary shepherd entity... ::)

oh how pity you are bro. you missed the time when God showed up his love, He loves you very much He gave his only begotten son just to give you hope
If you only knew he was suffered very much just for you then you're saying that! God is crying for what you are saying bro. repent! ask for forgiveness accept Jesus and you will have eternal life. try to watch charles stanley's preaching so that you will grow.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on February 23, 2011, 05:17:32 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 05:13:58 AM
oh how pity you are bro. you missed the time when God showed up his love, He loves you very much He gave his only begotten son just to give you hope
If you only knew he was suffered very much just for you then you're saying that! God is crying for what you are saying bro. repent! ask for forgiveness accept Jesus and you will have eternal life. try to watch charles stanley's preaching so that you will grow.

let him cry... and then he can eat cake. he is omnipotent is he not?
repent? for what? LOL ::)
ask for forgiveness? for what? LMFAO ::)
does charles stanley's preaching include material evidence or a logical proof of this imaginary friend of yours/his? if it doesn't i think i'll pass, i have heard the party line before, not buying it.

but no worries bro... i was baptized and have partaken of the zombie jesus flesh and blood. it's all good. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 23, 2011, 05:41:50 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2011, 02:43:27 AM
.
ASTALAVISTA BABYSITTER
;D

Hey Tito L. Oracion,

I noticed you deleted your post here and I wonder why you did so?

What is so secret about what you wrote?

If I recall from memory your text, it was: you start out from a 12V battery and charge up say 10 capacitors in parallel, then you discharge the 10 capacitors in series. And you wrote the effect is a 'surprise' or something similar.

So you probably discharge the series caps into a Tesla coil primary and utilize somehow the 'amplified' energy from the secondary coil, right?

Now that you first wrote the above in bold, then deleted it, its is no use denying?

Any comments please?

rgds,
Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 23, 2011, 08:12:54 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 23, 2011, 05:41:50 AM
Any comments please?

Despite that's not addressed to me...
Tracing Tito's posts included in many different threads, there is high probability that an open minded guy with proper knowledge, can be successful in pursuing his concept. I believe, Tito himself is not aware what kind of information he already managed to share.
It's my observation that many guys in this forum are not successful only because they don't look into (not only Tito's) back posts. But I am aware that all those who experiment, are just too busy to do that in this huge forum resources.
So, I offer my hand in that, if somebody is in such need.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 23, 2011, 08:31:40 AM

Tito

charles stanley's

A question?What do you think Mr.Stanleys would say
If I asked him this question?

Sir
I have discovered a way to power water treatment facilities
supply power to hospitals ,Heat homes ,and power irrigation /refridgeration units in remote locations.
Also to run green houses to grow food 24/7

What do you think I should do as a true Christian Mr. Stanely?

Tell yah what Teets
Give me his Number I'll ask him for you!
Chetkremens@gmail.com

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 23, 2011, 03:48:03 PM

That seems to be the efficient source usage !

http://www.youtube.com/user/hfaistio#p/a/u/2/xIfY__szAAo

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on February 23, 2011, 04:10:25 PM

Quote from: ramset on February 23, 2011, 08:31:40 AM
Tito

charles stanley's

A question?What do you think Mr.Stanleys would say
If I asked him this question?

Sir
I have discovered a way to power water treatment facilities
supply power to hospitals ,Heat homes ,and power irrigation /refridgeration units in remote locations.
Also to run green houses to grow food 24/7

What do you think I should do as a true Christian Mr. Stanely?

Tell yah what Teets
Give me his Number I'll ask him for you!
Chetkremens@gmail.com

http://www.intouch.org/about/contact-us
but they are not really true christians... charles stanley teaches the heresy of modality!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 23, 2011, 06:57:44 PM

Thanks Wilby,

I've seen this man on TV [My wife likes him]!
Reading thru the Link you posted,I think Teetsla better get another religion.
Only because he's gonna get yelled at By this Pastor!

I know how you feel about these things W,this is about
Teetsla's interpretation of his position as a "Christian".

Do you think I'm being unrealistic here,Should a man that practices Christianity[modality aside] turn his back like this on so many?

I may regret asking you this but you are a very wise man reguardless of your beliefs.

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on February 23, 2011, 08:08:35 PM

Quote from: ramset on February 23, 2011, 06:57:44 PM
Thanks Wilby,

I've seen this man on TV [My wife likes him]!
Reading thru the Link you posted,I think Teetsla better get another religion.
Only because he's gonna get yelled at By this Pastor!

I know how you feel about these things W,this is about
Teetsla's interpretation of his position as a "Christian".

Do you think I'm being unrealistic here,Should a man that practices Christianity[modality aside] turn his back like this on so many?

I may regret asking you this but you are a very wise man reguardless of your beliefs.

Chet

i don't think you are being unrealistic in this situation at all. teets claims to be christian but his actions identify him as a hypocrite or a poseur with zero integrity...

some quotes from teet's book of dogma:
"do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves." (philippians 2:3)

"for we are his workmanship, created in christ jesus for good works, which god prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them." (ephesians 2:10)

"in all things show yourself to be an example of good deeds, with purity in doctrine, dignified, sound in speech which is beyond reproach, so that the opponent will be put to shame, having nothing bad to say about us." (titus 2:7-8)

i could post many more, but i think those clearly demonstrate your point.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 23, 2011, 08:41:21 PM

Wilby
Thanks for helping to shed more light on the Fallacy of Teetsla's position!

So he is an Absolute Hypocrite,in need of repentence before His lord and savior!
And I don't Know if his Brother is also a Christian [the one who tells Teets not to share}
But he's looking Dicey too!

Teets, You Prayed for it, you got it,now you have to decide!
The word Condemns your actions!
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 24, 2011, 02:40:31 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 23, 2011, 05:41:50 AM
Hey Tito L. Oracion,

I noticed you deleted your post here and I wonder why you did so?

What is so secret about what you wrote?

If I recall from memory your text, it was: you start out from a 12V battery and charge up say 10 capacitors in parallel, then you discharge the 10 capacitors in series. And you wrote the effect is a 'surprise' or something similar.

So you probably discharge the series caps into a Tesla coil primary and utilize somehow the 'amplified' energy from the secondary coil, right?

Now that you first wrote the above in bold, then deleted it, its is no use denying?

Any comments please?

rgds,
Gyula

You're lucky co'z you got some part. there is other part you missed, you try to notice it, they are not reading it and that's not my fault.

Your wrong i don't use tesla coil co'z its an old style tesla its very much simpler and enough for an ordinary use for an appliances. so therefore we conclude then that for every appliances, then it has its own power supply, so the trend should go like this, in the future an appliances should have its own free power supply isn't great gyula? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 24, 2011, 02:53:32 AM

@will and ram

i am not hypocrite as what you are thinking and all you are thinking to me is wrong, there are just so many conflicts running in my head co'z any wrong move, everything is lost.

it is easy for you to say that without minding what i feel co'z thats what you want, you only looking to your way without minding the other way in the road.

i think before concluding something you must not only think once, twice or thrice you have to have some kindness in yourself, and also do not make some coat from the bible co'z i can do that also and much more better than that ok? so be careful you might get lost ;D

now!, am i look like serious ;D lol hahahahahahhaha

You now what? i am now planning to make meeting from my small men downstairs! ;D lol hahahahhah
owh boy chaloofa is in danger ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 24, 2011, 03:07:36 AM

Quote from: forest on February 23, 2011, 01:53:33 AM
each piano tone should go to capacitor of course as lot as possible
see Innovation youtube videos

but here is the main big pain in ass : without finding the correct timing it is a one key piano and others are not powerful, got it ?

I'm still searching for the method to get it into OU. Unstable.

P.S. you know that diode bridge is two Avramenko plugs ?

hi forest
nowadays we don't anymore need timing, things change into more better solution, every time we need it, it must be new and powerful.

So therefore if i have at least 7 strong man in the forest, then therefore they are enough for me in the middle to be safe from harm. ;)

consider me as the big foot transformer ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 24, 2011, 03:16:10 AM

Question: why does the sun is not burning very fast into explosion? but it is a full of gas.

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on February 24, 2011, 06:12:58 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 24, 2011, 03:16:10 AM
Question: why does the sun is not burning very fast into explosion? but it is a full of gas.

;D

;D "the physical relation among the pressure, temperature, and fusion rate creates a natural thermostat which keeps the center of the sun (and the center of any other main sequence star) at a steady temperature."
http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~ryden/ast162_4/notes14.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 24, 2011, 06:00:22 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on February 24, 2011, 06:12:58 AM
;D "the physical relation among the pressure, temperature, and fusion rate creates a natural thermostat which keeps the center of the sun (and the center of any other main sequence star) at a steady temperature."
http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~ryden/ast162_4/notes14.html

Great! thanks bro! your really a hero member, my son asked me about that and i don't know the answer.

So Pressure, Temperature and fusion rate, is the reason why it is stable hmmmmmmm, the effect is familiar to me. strange :).

So a good combination of different natural things makes something in a stable condition hmmmm. great! nature really teaches us how to make something great, hmmm ,really strange. ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 24, 2011, 06:16:08 AM

Tito
I don't know how things will work when we all go home,
But this guy
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10425.msg275916#new

That just posted this,

"My reason was the children. When I became aware of how many were dying needlessly every day I set about doing something about it. I still do not know if I have been successful, but I have tried, and I hope I have helped."
--------------------------------

I think He is some one you should watch !
An example put right in front of you!A person our Lord can point to and then look at you.

Tito,
Just so you understand,I believe this {OU] belongs to no "one".
It is For "every one"!!
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 24, 2011, 07:10:07 AM

Quote from: ramset on February 24, 2011, 06:16:08 AM
Tito
I don't know how things will work when we all go home,
But this guy
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10425.msg275916#new

That just posted this,

"My reason was the children. When I became aware of how many were dying needlessly every day I set about doing something about it. I still do not know if I have been successful, but I have tried, and I hope I have helped."
--------------------------------

I think He is some one you should watch !
An example put right in front of you!A person our Lord can point to and then look at you.

Tito,
Just so you understand,I believe this {OU] belongs to no "one".
It is For "every one"!!
Chet

Hi chet

My style is to give ideas and expect them to work in their own where ever they made a progress then its good for them and happy for them but my hardwork is mine and for my children. please understand :(

Something like this:
i will give you a net to catch fish then your hardwork is yours and mine is mine ok.

And Here is my stand: all tips i gave are truth but only they are in the development and process of my progress thats why many times things change co'z i am discovering new things, but still i am updating something and still i'm very very bad! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 24, 2011, 06:46:07 AM

OH
I see .........................
I suggest Two things
Pray a lot more!
And Pay attention!

These Things I do myself.
Chet
PS
Also keep an eye here ,Because its really
TEACH A MAN TO FISH
Not
I GOT MINES[net] THE HECK WITH YOU!
PPS
For persons who may be Judgeing Christians buy Tito's position

This is "N O T " the way we are tought
ZERO N A D D A to do with GOD.
This is all about Fear!
Not Faith!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 24, 2011, 07:02:01 AM

YOU KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY?!

I ALWAYS WANT EVERYONE LAUGHING IN THIS THREAD FORGET QUARRELING
I REALLY DON'T TAKE EVERYTHING SERIOUSLY

SEE I'M LAUGHING ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 24, 2011, 08:03:25 AM

Quote from: ramset on February 24, 2011, 06:46:07 AM
OH
I see .........................
I suggest Two things
Pray a lot more!
And Pay attention!

These Things I do myself.
Chet
PS
Also keep an eye here ,Because its really
TEACH A MAN TO FISH
Not
I GOT MINES[net] THE HECK WITH YOU!
PPS
For persons who may be Judgeing Christians buy Tito's position

This is "N O T " the way we are tought
ZERO N A D D A to do with GOD.
This is all about Fear!
Not Faith!

OWH BOY WHAT HAVE I DONE AGAIN!

I THINK YOU NEED SOME PRESSURE, TEMPERATURE AND FUSION RATE TO BECOME STABLE! ;D

GOODBYE ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 24, 2011, 08:12:27 AM

Forget the watch battery running a refridgerator!
Give me a glass of water!
Mark9:41
And when I hand that glass of clean fresh water to the little face standing in toilet water,
I will say {with a very big smile ,and perhaps a Laugh}
This is From > ;D<
We called him Tito.............
God bless you Child!

THAT WILL MAKE ME LAUGH and Cry
tears of joy!

Go play with your Children,and thank your lord they don't have to drink from the Toilet.

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 24, 2011, 08:40:40 AM

Ramset, I suggest you should create your own thread, or better forum to show your scribbles. You look very irresponsible recently. Are you sick, or drunk? BEHAVE!!! TRY TO CONTROL YOURSELF. For me, your behavior looks rather frustrating.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 24, 2011, 09:01:44 AM

Qwert
Appologies
I don't like to be taunted by the elite amongst us!
The haves and the have nots
an old story ,always the same ending!

I'm done..............
See Yah
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on February 24, 2011, 09:04:51 AM

Quote from: Qwert on February 24, 2011, 08:40:40 AM
Ramset, I suggest you should create your own thread, or better forum to show your scribbles. You look very irresponsible recently. Are you sick, or drunk? BEHAVE!!! TRY TO CONTROL YOURSELF. For me, your behavior looks rather frustrating.

I agree. Seems you are only here to use any ruse possible to push buttons. There is a limit to how far one pushes in the name of valliantry, gallantry and all the other trees you can muster up.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 24, 2011, 09:40:35 AM

Yeah
Thanks for the sobering comments fellows
@ Wattsup
Your right I do have an agenda!,Its "Open Source"
And I will Gladly look the fool!
The "I'm saved" comment set me off.
Now I'm Off!
Chet
PS
80 % of this worlds 7 billion people live in poverty
They Drink from polluted waters .
Just because they can't join us in our search for OU
Doesn't mean they are not out there!
Free energy could clean their drinking water.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 24, 2011, 12:51:02 PM

Here is my theoretical circuit for electric kettle. Can we improve it ? It is only theoretical right now
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=459

I don't know if this is possible but I found a way to charge caps in parallel while they are still connected in series. Very strange but theoretically why shouldn't it work ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: mscoffman on February 25, 2011, 01:58:29 PM

Quote from: forest on February 24, 2011, 12:51:02 PM

Here is my theoretical circuit for electric kettle. Can we improve it ? It is only theoretical right now
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=459

I don't know if this is possible but I found a way to charge caps in parallel while they are still connected in series. Very strange but theoretically why shouldn't it work ?

@forrest,

This is interesting - but in the .pdf file what are the instrument(s)
connected to the FET gates? Are these offset (inverted) digital
oscillators? They look like o'scopes?

:S:MarkCoffman

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 25, 2011, 04:02:27 PM

This circuit is very theoretical, and probably would not work. Those boxes are simplified versions of square wave oscillators ;D Frequency is not chosen, I just followed hfaistio user from youtube
http://www.youtube.com/user/hfaistio#p/a/u/1/cvIlqp9p-Ag

I'm searching for the way to effectively charging caps without discharging source and also thought about charging capacitors in parallel while they are connected in series, but now I think it is not possible without switches.I may be wrong.

First I plan to compare step up booster (simple DC-DC converter) with the proposed method of charging caps using the same parts (relay, coil ,diode)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 26, 2011, 07:32:59 AM

Quote from: forest on February 24, 2011, 12:51:02 PM
Here is my theoretical circuit for electric kettle. Can we improve it ? It is only theoretical right now
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=459

I don't know if this is possible but I found a way to charge caps in parallel while they are still connected in series. Very strange but theoretically why shouldn't it work ?

Your circuit has an effect of voltage multiplier. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 26, 2011, 09:53:36 AM

Tito
How do we make "Current" Multiply?

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 26, 2011, 10:35:35 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 26, 2011, 07:32:59 AM
Your circuit has an effect of voltage multiplier. :)

Tito, wake up! You still have chance to disclose your invention in full details in an Open Source media. I am afraid, your fellow-coutryman (Ismael Aviso) is just in his way to steal your hopes, it will be too late (for you and for the rest of the world) when he protects his rights to his inventions. There are several threads on this forum covering this. Here is the latest one: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10443.msg276131#new
and link from that thread: http://panacea-bocaf.org/ismaelaviso.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 26, 2011, 03:33:25 PM

Look here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_uhU-dn2kA&NR=1

This is about charging capacitors in parallel, look at equations.
If we would be able to charge each capacitor or all of them in parallel and discharge it in series then because amount of charge is constant voltage will shoot up, but equations seems indicate also energy gain ????

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 26, 2011, 04:28:29 PM

Quote from: forest on February 26, 2011, 03:33:25 PM
Look here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_uhU-dn2kA&NR=1

This is about charging capacitors in parallel, look at equations.
If we would be able to charge each capacitor or all of them in parallel and discharge it in series then because amount of charge is constant voltage will shoot up, but equations seems indicate also energy gain ????

He Forest

I really like Nilrehob's stuff. But that vid, there is something to realize. In parallel that capacitance is twice as a single cap, and in series the capacitance is half of a single cap.

I would have to say that the caps in parallel, at less than 14v, have greater energy than the series caps with 16v. A common mistake, and it was a while ago that Nil made that vid. He has come a long way since then. =] I find similar issues with the vids of shorting the batt, cap and coil all at the same time, because he doesnt show the value of the caps. It looks like he is taking a smaller cap and producing a large charge into a larger (physically) cap, when really his discharge cap may be many microfarad, and the large box cap may be 1uf. I had watched that guys vids many times, who was he, "Free energy from the vacuum" It took me a while to see that he was making a similar mistake to Nil's vid. Or was he? ;]

Here is a voltage multiplier. The caps get charged individually through the diodes to the source voltage and allows you to discharge them in series, thus the output is the source voltage times the no. of caps.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 28, 2011, 06:44:58 AM

Quote from: ramset on February 26, 2011, 09:53:36 AM
Tito
How do we make "Current" Multiply?

Chet

hi chet ;D

That is actually the remaining secret. there are different method how to achieve this but there is always a better and safe way of course.

To make it stable we need pressure, temperature and fusion rate ok ;D

See the sun its not blowing but it contineuosly give of energy ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 28, 2011, 06:53:44 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 26, 2011, 04:28:29 PM
He Forest

I really like Nilrehob's stuff. But that vid, there is something to realize. In parallel that capacitance is twice as a single cap, and in series the capacitance is half of a single cap.

I would have to say that the caps in parallel, at less than 14v, have greater energy than the series caps with 16v. A common mistake, and it was a while ago that Nil made that vid. He has come a long way since then. =] I find similar issues with the vids of shorting the batt, cap and coil all at the same time, because he doesnt show the value of the caps. It looks like he is taking a smaller cap and producing a large charge into a larger (physically) cap, when really his discharge cap may be many microfarad, and the large box cap may be 1uf. I had watched that guys vids many times, who was he, "Free energy from the vacuum" It took me a while to see that he was making a similar mistake to Nil's vid. Or was he? ;]

Here is a voltage multiplier. The caps get charged individually through the diodes to the source voltage and allows you to discharge them in series, thus the output is the source voltage times the no. of caps.

Mags

ok

WE dont actually need large caps ok.

WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW IS COILING SECRET.

COMMON MISTAKE IS NOT A COMMON MISTAKE IT ALWAYS DEPENDS ON HOW A COIL IS BUILT. WHETHER YOU DISCHARGE IT IN PARALLEL OR SERIES AS LONG AS THERE IS PRESSURE HAPPEN INVOLVE IN THE COIL. THEN LIFE GOES ON ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 28, 2011, 07:00:17 AM

Quote from: Qwert on February 26, 2011, 10:35:35 AM
Tito, wake up! You still have chance to disclose your invention in full details in an Open Source media. I am afraid, your fellow-coutryman (Ismael Aviso) is just in his way to steal your hopes, it will be too late (for you and for the rest of the world) when he protects his rights to his inventions. There are several threads on this forum covering this. Here is the latest one: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10443.msg276131#new
and link from that thread: http://panacea-bocaf.org/ismaelaviso.htm

OK

He will not give it! promise ;D

The secret is simple, mark my word.

Now if in case that he gave the 1% secret then thats the time i will reveal everything, and that's a deal. ;D

That is if he really have it. ;)

Ps. I don't really care what ever he does or what ever happen.

Coz' if i reveal now then no more excitement ;)

It really needs some kind of fore playing first before going into the climax. ;D
Many people here always wants direct to the point! ;D LOL HAhahahha!

Parental guidance needed ;D hahahahaha!
by the way condoms are good tools to suppressed the volcanic attack ;D ;D ;D ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 28, 2011, 07:07:56 AM

Edit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 28, 2011, 07:30:41 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 28, 2011, 07:00:17 AM
Ps. I don't really care what ever he does or what ever happen.

Now, we'll already have it, no matter if you reveal it or not. It's only a matter of time. So, I see no excitement anymore.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 28, 2011, 08:08:55 AM

Tito
You make me nuts!,Well........... Nutsier ![I'm already whacky!:-}

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 28, 2011, 11:04:54 AM

Hey Tito,
Gas just jumped 30 cents a gallon by me,
How much longer you think till they take away our boys [children] toys and hand them rifles?

Next Oil war Is allready up and running!

Its Time Teets..................................

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 28, 2011, 01:45:19 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 28, 2011, 06:53:44 AM
ok

WE dont actually need large caps ok.

WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW IS COILING SECRET.

COMMON MISTAKE IS NOT A COMMON MISTAKE IT ALWAYS DEPENDS ON HOW A COIL IS BUILT. WHETHER YOU DISCHARGE IT IN PARALLEL OR SERIES AS LONG AS THERE IS PRESSURE HAPPEN INVOLVE IN THE COIL. THEN LIFE GOES ON ;D

Ok, so it does not matter if we discharge in series or parallel if we have enough voltage ? Do you mean that someone could find it while building coil with mistake ?
Hmm... Can you answer questions :
1. Does it relate to geometry of single coil (pancake,bifilar,caduceus) ?
or
2. Require extra coil always ?
3. Abstracting from the coil : do you know exactly WHY it works with gain ? Is that hard to understand or simple ? Kapanadze said about ether, do you think it can be simpler expained ?
4. There is only one method and others are just variations or there are a few different sources ?
5. Is that related to cold electricity ?

I'm still wandering in the forest ;D but finally I see the light and for me it is cold electricity and interaction with ether and geometry. Nothing serious yet (no OU) but I want to find all possible methods ;) Like capacitors charge by shorting coils - still do not understand it completly, but being here I have to push north side ,right ? ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 28, 2011, 11:40:08 PM

Quote from: forest on February 28, 2011, 01:45:19 PM
Ok, so it does not matter if we discharge in series or parallel if we have enough voltage ? Do you mean that someone could find it while building coil with mistake ?
Hmm... Can you answer questions :
1. Does it relate to geometry of single coil (pancake,bifilar,caduceus) ?
or
2. Require extra coil always ?
3. Abstracting from the coil : do you know exactly WHY it works with gain ? Is that hard to understand or simple ? Kapanadze said about ether, do you think it can be simpler expained ?
4. There is only one method and others are just variations or there are a few different sources ?
5. Is that related to cold electricity ?

I'm still wandering in the forest ;D but finally I see the light and for me it is cold electricity and interaction with ether and geometry. Nothing serious yet (no OU) but I want to find all possible methods ;) Like capacitors charge by shorting coils - still do not understand it completly, but being here I have to push north side ,right ? ::)

The shorting coil works like this. Imagine the coil open, no switch, well, no current either as the magnet passes. But if you short the coil, current flows, flywheel gets going, release the switch and gather while you can. Its not an ideal flywheel as we might think, but it does have stored energy that will go away if you dont catch it unlike a capacitor. =]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: e2matrix on March 01, 2011, 10:19:20 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 28, 2011, 07:00:17 AM
OK

He will not give it! promise ;D

The secret is simple, mark my word.

Now if in case that he gave the 1% secret then thats the time i will reveal everything, and that's a deal. ;D

<snip <

So if I reveal the secret will you reveal everything ?

First I'll admit I have not read this entire thread but only the first couple and last couple pages. But a lot of things seem to point to this concept. The magnetic amplifier circuit which is simple but fell out of use when solid state components became popular.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: e2matrix on March 01, 2011, 10:27:22 PM

Information relevant to the above 2 pics: "Figures 3-36 and 3-37 both represent practical, workable saturable-core reactors. Circuits similar to
these are actually used to control lighting in auditoriums or electric industrial furnaces. These circuits are
sometimes referred to as magnetic amplifiers, but that is NOT technically correct. A magnetic amplifier
differs from a saturable-core reactor in one important aspect: A magnetic amplifier has a rectifier in
addition to a saturable-core reactor.
Q-42.
If the permeability of the core of a coil increases, what happens to (a) inductance and (b) true
power in the circuit?
Q-43.
What happens to the permeability of an iron core as the current increases from the operating
point to a large value?
Q-44.
If two coils are wound on a single iron core, what will a change in current in one coil cause in
the other coil?
Q-45.
What symbol in figure 3-33 indicates a saturable core connecting two windings?
SIMPLIFIED MAGNETIC AMPLIFIER CIRCUITRY
If the saturable-core reactor works, why do we need to add a rectifier to produce a magnetic
amplifier? To answer this question, recall that in NEETS, Module 2â€"Introduction to Alternating Current
and Transformers, you were told about hysteresis loss. Hysteresis loss occurs because the a.c. applied to a
coil causes the tiny molecular magnets (or electron-spin directions) to realign as the polarity of the a.c.
changes. This realignment uses up power. The power that is used for realignment is a loss as far as the
rest of the circuit is concerned. Because of this hysteresis loss in the saturable-core reactor, the power
gain is relatively low. A rectifier added to the load circuit will eliminate the hysteresis loss and increase
the gain. This is because the rectifier allows current to flow in only one direction through the load coils."

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 02, 2011, 02:32:03 PM

Is magnetic amplifier possible using on core ?
I don't understand how it magnify power. By breaking wave at the peak ? No lenz law ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Doug1 on March 02, 2011, 04:00:09 PM

Here forest
http://www.themeasuringsystemofthegods.com/magnetic%20amplifiers.pdf
Not sure where they got the copy from I even cosidered not mentioning it due to the website name.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on March 02, 2011, 09:04:39 PM

A find from the past.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1872.msg22314#msg22314
Open attached file: D3.pdf .

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 03, 2011, 02:43:22 AM

Quote from: e2matrix on March 01, 2011, 10:19:20 PM
So if I reveal the secret will you reveal everything ?

First I'll admit I have not read this entire thread but only the first couple and last couple pages. But a lot of things seem to point to this concept. The magnetic amplifier circuit which is simple but fell out of use when solid state components became popular.

Oh well. this scheme is other way but this is different than mine and you just added some juice in my brain. hmmmm i think its time to scrutinize this one. thanks bro. ;)

I admit, i'm learning more ;D

Well ok, here is what i'm doing currently.
I am redirecting the input and the effect of that input into the source, and so the effect is self recharging. take note this is just one of my latest scruitinizing. ;D

and i think i can add up what you taught above thanks ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 03, 2011, 12:35:55 PM

OK, Teestla said a cap charging senario!
These fellows at OUR ,seem to be discussing this
A snipet bellow

Core
Quote:

In the book 'Tesla on his work with Alternating Currents' by Leland Anderson does anybody know what device the cover diagram is for. It is pictured next to the Magnifying transmitter but I do not think that is it. The diagram shows capacitors charged in parallel and discharged in series. I might be missing the patent that this one is for. Any help would be great.

Respectfully,

Core

Cover diagram.

""""Image posted below"""""

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darkspeed

Group: Darkspeed
Â»

Core,
That was the driver for the single wire primary that went around the perimeter of teslas lab. It allowed him to walk around the lab with tuned devices that would run off the primary discharge.

Core

Darkspeed,

As far as you know is there any additional data on this? This is one of the very few diagrams that show a core material. Also to power a tuned device would one end need to be grounded?

Respectfully,

Core

darkspeed

Group: Darkspeed

The first transformer with core is a low frequency step up transformer like a neon sign transformer.
It feeds resonant charging inductors, then capacitors.
When the rotary gap fires the long single wire is in LC with the capacitors and a high frequency is established.
No ground is needed, however a ground will increase the output of the tuned receiver.
Adding a ground allows you to use the electrostatic component between the top of the receiver and ground

allcanadian

@Core

Quote
As far as you know is there any additional data on this? This is one of the very few diagrams that show a core material. Also to power a tuned device would one end need to be grounded?
This is Tesla's hairpin circuit with a mechanical break or a better term would be rotary spark gap which disrupts the circuit. The capacitors are charged in series through chokes to limit current from the secondary and when the break fires the capacitors are discharged through this same path. The changing potential on the capacitors produces a sharp impulse in the loop (a single turn coil) which induces the device(the receiver) in the center of the loop which has a break as well fired at a rate in proportional to the primary break. A variable inductance can also be seen in the loop for tuning the device to resonance.
Regards
AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 03, 2011, 08:07:38 PM

More Comments from the boys at OUR
Reguarding Parallel to series cap stuff!

--------------------
dllabare
Quote:
Core

I found this little write up regarding the picture you posted:

"Figure 35.
Apparatus with mechanical break as installed on a large scale in the laboratory at South Fifth Avenue and subsequently at 46 East Houston Street. Described in U.S. Patent No. 645,576 of March 20, 1900. Application filed September 2, 1897.

This [Fig. 35] is the apparatus I had at 35 South Fifth Avenue and also Houston Street. It shows the whole arrangement as I had it for the demonstration of effects which I investigated.
â€¢This cable you see [square loop in top half of Fig. 35] is stretched around the hall. These are my condensers. There is the mechanically operated break, and that is a transformer charged from the generator. That is the way I had it for the production of current effects which were rather of damped character because, at that period, I used circuits of great activity which radiated rapidly. In the Houston Street laboratory, I could take in my hands a coil tuned to my body and collect 3/4 horsepower anywhere in the room without tangible connection, and I have often disillusioned my visitors in regard to such wonderful effects. Sometimes, I would produce flames shooting out from my head and run a motor in my hands, or light six or eight lamps. They could not understand these manifestations of energy and thought that it was a genuine transmission of power. I told them that these phenomena were wonderful, but that a system of transmission, based on the same principle, was absolutely worthless. It was a transmission by electromagnetic waves. The solution lay in a different direction. I am showing you this [diagram] simply as a typical form of apparatus of that period, and if you go over the literature of the present day you will find that the newest arrangements have nothing better to show.

Counsel

What was the make and break frequency that you got from that apparatus?

Tesla

It was 5,000, 6,000â€"sometimes higher still. I had two oppositely rotating discs which I will show you and with which I could have reached, probably, 15,000 or 18,000.

Counsel

What wave frequencies did you develop?

Tesla

I could operate from a few thousand up to a million per second, if I wanted.

Counsel

What did you actually use?

Tesla

In these demonstrations, which I showed these effects, these most powerful effects that were the sight of New York at that time, I operated with frequencies from 30,000 to 80,000. At that time I could pick up a wire, coil it up, and tell what the vibration would be, without any test, because I was experimenting day and night."

-------------------------------

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: slapper on March 03, 2011, 09:22:07 PM

adding my 1.5 cents :)

take care.

nap

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: kooler on March 03, 2011, 11:42:33 PM

what is this ..
it looks like a highly adjustable tesla hair pin..
but has two air coils coming off the high tension side of the input transformer..
what are those for.. ?? would they mate together.. to help feed the caps with b.e.m.f. ??

??
robbie

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 04, 2011, 01:23:12 AM

That is were energy is being suck.

An open door to get energy in the environment

A vacuum effect for energy outside.

That is how i see it ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Groundloop on March 04, 2011, 04:36:03 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 04, 2011, 08:05:00 AM

Choke coil are charging caps from backEMF

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: slapper on March 04, 2011, 08:32:46 AM

delboy posted these Tesla circuits in a hairpin thread:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7978.msg232723#msg232723 (http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7978.msg232723#msg232723)

i've added the notes to them.

take care.

nap

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 04, 2011, 11:40:56 AM

The only thing is that what you are showing as the spark gap "T" are actually probes that you hold on to. These are drawings of his medical device. People would hold on to these probes to send the high frequency through their bodies.

The choke coils are used to provide protection to the high voltage transformer from the high frequency spikes that are generated.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 04, 2011, 09:47:38 PM

AMAZING !!!!!!
;D

CHOKE COILS are added as series aiding coils to add up strength for pulling and pushing.

so that energy at the other side of the cap is more stronger.

and were ever the flow of current is, the variable coil is acting as a suction.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 04, 2011, 10:48:52 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 04, 2011, 09:47:38 PM
AMAZING !!!!!!
;D

CHOKE COILS are added as series aiding coils to add up strength for pulling and pushing.

so that energy at the other side of the cap is more stronger.

and were ever the flow of current is, the variable coil is acting as a suction.

The choke coils are not series aiding coils. They are only there to protect the high voltage transformer. They would probably have a relatively high self resonant frequency making it a large impedance to the high frequency spikes. This would stop the spikes from getting to the high voltage transformer.

Wow Teets, for someone who has discovered free energy I thought you would of known better. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sorry, had to edit, forgot the ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2011, 05:04:56 AM

Quote from: MrMag on March 04, 2011, 10:48:52 PM
The choke coils are not series aiding coils. They are only there to protect the high voltage transformer. They would probably have a relatively high self resonant frequency making it a large impedance to the high frequency spikes. This would stop the spikes from getting to the high voltage transformer.

Wow Teets, for someone who has discovered free energy I thought you would of known better. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sorry, had to edit, forgot the ;D

Oh gush :o , you're better than me ? ;D

So you mean they are not aiding connected in series coils to protect the high voltage transformer? ;D

:P

You know sometimes. it doesn't need to know many thing for free energy, if you only knew the simple way.

i'm not forcing you to believe me okay and maybe you know better than me.

but one thing i am sure , I have it. ;D

one more thing, this kind of people are sometimes the reason why i'm deciding to not giving.

THEY ARE NOT JUST PROTECTOR OKAY! ;

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on March 06, 2011, 09:08:09 AM

Just consider the make/break. At make capacitors discharge. At break, inductors (cokes) discharge. When the capacitor discharges it sends a pulse through the loop and also charges the inductors. When the inductor discharges it also sends a pulse through the loop and charges the capacitors. Make-pulse-charge, break-pulse-charge. You get a pulse, a discharge, and a charge at every make and at every break.

Usually in our devices we only get a pulse at make, then at break we hope to hell the flyback will go somewhere useful. But it usually does not.

Both capacitors and inductors are mutually dependent. Without the inductor, there is not enough to charge the cap. Without the cap, there is not enough to charge the inductor. The mH value of the inductor and the mF value of the caps is very important so the exchanged energies are as well balanced as possible otherwise your efficiency will be reduced proportionally.

So what you see in that Tesla patent is a pure example in the art of balancing applied energies.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 06, 2011, 12:18:44 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2011, 05:04:56 AM
Oh gush :o , you're better than me ? ;D

No, I never said that I was better then you or anyone else. Why do you worry one way or the other.
Just by you mentioning this makes me think that you are the one who thinks he is smarter then everyone else.

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2011, 05:04:56 AM
So you mean they are not aiding connected in series coils to protect the high voltage transformer? ;D

:P

That's what I said, They are there to protect the HVT.

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2011, 05:04:56 AM
You know sometimes. it doesn't need to know many thing for free energy, if you only knew the simple way.

i'm not forcing you to believe me okay and maybe you know better than me.

Without you sharing this OU discovery, how are we to know it is the simple way.

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2011, 05:04:56 AM
but one thing i am sure , I have it. ;D

Yes, we all know that you say you have it but I really don't think you do. Most people would be proud that they
made the discovery and would like to share it with the world, to save many lives. You remind me of IST.
He also claimed that he has made wonderful discoveries and just expected people to believe him.
I am just waiting for you to say that you are going into production but need investors. If you were scared of being harmed
because of your discovery, you wouldn't be on here bragging about having it. As far as I am concerned, I think that you are
a fake and a fraud and can't even be consistent with your lies. Prove me wrong and share your idea with the people here.
But you won't because you have nothing to share.

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2011, 05:04:56 AM
one more thing, this kind of people are sometimes the reason why i'm deciding to not giving.

THEY ARE NOT JUST PROTECTOR OKAY! ;

;D

OK good. Now you have another excuse not to share. If someone told me that I didn't have it and I was a fraud,
I would like to prove them wrong and show them. You can't do that because you have nothing to show.

Wattsup,
I understand what you are saying but I dissagree with you. The problem with both of our ideas is that until we know what value
the inductors are, it really is hard to confirm their use either way. All I know is that I have seen them in that location for the reason that I stated.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 06, 2011, 01:12:15 PM

Well who is to say that the above schem is about OU? It might be.

If we look at what is going on, the rotor gapper is doing the same as in the Igniter pat.
It shorts the connection of the cap banks so they can be discharged(or just connected) to the output section, And at the same time, the rotor gap shorts the 2 "choke" coils with the secondary of the input.
We seem to have a Shorting coil schem like Romeros experiments.

If we didnt have the 2 "choke" coils, we would be just shorting the secondary.

They are not Choke coils. They are extensions of the inputs secondary.

The rotor must be in time with the inputs secondary to short the 3 coils while in phase with secondary while peaking, which causes a lot of current to flow through the 3 coils, (choke, sec, choke), then when released(rotor gap) that flow will charge the caps beyond what the sec can do on its own, even when shorted.

Extra coil. These are not just used to receive from a near by operating coil. Tesla used them many ways. These "chokes" in my opinion are Extra coils.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2011, 08:42:32 PM

Quote from: MrMag on March 06, 2011, 12:18:44 PM
No, I never said that I was better then you or anyone else. Why do you worry one way or the other.
Just by you mentioning this makes me think that you are the one who thinks he is smarter then everyone else.
That's what I said, They are there to protect the HVT.
Without you sharing this OU discovery, how are we to know it is the simple way.
Yes, we all know that you say you have it but I really don't think you do. Most people would be proud that they
made the discovery and would like to share it with the world, to save many lives. You remind me of IST.
He also claimed that he has made wonderful discoveries and just expected people to believe him.
I am just waiting for you to say that you are going into production but need investors. If you were scared of being harmed
because of your discovery, you wouldn't be on here bragging about having it. As far as I am concerned, I think that you are
a fake and a fraud and can't even be consistent with your lies. Prove me wrong and share your idea with the people here.
But you won't because you have nothing to share.
OK good. Now you have another excuse not to share. If someone told me that I didn't have it and I was a fraud,
I would like to prove them wrong and show them. You can't do that because you have nothing to show.

Wattsup,
I understand what you are saying but I dissagree with you. The problem with both of our ideas is that until we know what value
the inductors are, it really is hard to confirm their use either way. All I know is that I have seen them in that location for the reason that I stated.

Hi Mrmag__vin ;D

I am not worry ok! That was just my conclusion. ;D

ok i don't really want to quarrel to anyone but because the way you said your writings makes an insult to me, i just said the other angle of the picture and thats the truth co'z no matter what it protects it is still an inductor that can able to make self induce energy especially when it is being pulse ok.

You know what i have gave a lot you just didn't appreciate it! >:(

ok i will never talk anymore if i'm not knowledgeable for you ok >:(

The floor is now yours!

You provoke me a reason to be bad! >:(

@wattsup
You're really a good person sir. ;)

Mrmag is hard headed isn't it sir? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 06, 2011, 08:50:00 PM

Who is Vin? ;)

Well at least I agree with you here on this one tito.

If we know how an open ended secondary works with an AV plug, then we have to understand that the 2 inductors will act as part of the secondary when the secondary is being energized by the primary. But, the 2 inductors are not directly induced by the primaries mag field, just the back and forth compression in the secondary has more room to expand with the 2 inductors.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2011, 08:55:45 PM

You know what?!

LIERS GO TO HELL ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 06, 2011, 09:00:24 PM

lol

What? you think im MrMags vin?

Mayyybe you had a bit of some goood Philli sake?

Mags vin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2011, 09:00:41 PM

OH! :o mags your here now, where is mrmag he was here awhile ago is he with you, or do you have him with you ;D or is it a bulse eye ;)

now i think you have to turn him on now. ;D

@ALL
YOU KNOW WHAT EVERYONE I DO NOT USE OTHER NAMES CAUSE I'M NOT HYPOCRITE! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 06, 2011, 09:03:34 PM

yep :D me ;) Are you with anybody? :-*

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 06, 2011, 09:06:15 PM

welp, maybe you are wrong for once.. ;) Na couldnt be. ::)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2011, 09:12:27 PM

Next time if you make use of other names, try to make it very different ok

MR.MAG
MAGLUVIN

nEXT TIME TRY MS.mag OR magic johnson or magnetic field ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 06, 2011, 09:13:54 PM

Mrmag has been here a few years longer than me.

Dont know what to tell ya tweets. Maybe I will have to argue with him about the chokes. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2011, 09:14:38 PM

oh! why you turn on the two computers? now i am convinced that you really have it. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 06, 2011, 09:19:31 PM

NOW YOU HAVE ANGERED MEEEE!!!!! lol not tito your paranoia is hilarious. Imagine being me right now and im NOT mrmag. imagine that will ya.. lol this is funny. ;]

Im just experiencing it. lol

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 06, 2011, 09:24:42 PM

I think both of you guys are nuts. If you want to read more into the functions of these rf chokes, so be it. I thought you would like to know why they are in the circuit. I guess your not use to hearing the truth in this thread. With all of the confusing and misleading information being spread by tito in this thread, no wonder your confused. So, I guess with your logic, every circuit that contain an inductor, the inductor is used to boost the voltage. Tito is a great teacher.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 06, 2011, 09:27:38 PM

Actually I have 3 computers, 1 pc 2 laps. The pc is an MSI custom build bout 6 years old running Xp pro, the Acer One is, well, and Acer one. Yippy. And the alienware is still classified as an area 51 project.

My internet is a Virgin mobile Broadband2go and is usb fob Im still trying to het the pc and Acer to Adhoc. Workin on it.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 06, 2011, 09:30:13 PM

Here you 2, I did a quick google for you.

What is an RF Choke and why would I use one

"RF" of course means "Radio (high) Frequency" and "choke" refers to choking it off or blocking it. It would be used in series with a circuit that will be adversely affected in some way by the presence of RF, but must operate in the presence of it. It will be a coil or possibly a more sophisticated circuit, which does not present a significant impedance up to frequencies the protected circuit is intended to process.

Read more: What is an RF Choke and why would I use one? | Answerbag http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/46951#ixzz1FsQkiAuI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 06, 2011, 09:34:20 PM

Mrmag

lol well tito thinks im you and you are me. Yep nuts, pistacios, cashews and peanuts.

One thing about this schem is we really dont know any details. What is the input freq as compared to the rotary gapper? Dunno.

Maybe you are right, chokes. Thats all they are, and 2 are needed.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 06, 2011, 09:38:06 PM

Tesla usually showed a generator as his source of power. If you built one today, you would use a high voltage transformer so your input frequency would be 50/60 Hz. The spark gap is generating the high frequency pulses that need to be removed by the chokes to protect the transformer.

And no, I'm not you. That is just tito trying to confuse people again.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 06, 2011, 09:40:32 PM

And what harm would the rf do to the transformer?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 06, 2011, 09:46:27 PM

Quote from: MrMag on March 06, 2011, 09:38:06 PM
Tesla usually showed a generator as his source of power. If you built one today, you would use a high voltage transformer so your input frequency would be 50/60 Hz. The spark gap is generating the high frequency pulses that need to be removed by the chokes to protect the transformer.

And no, I'm not you. That is just tito trying to confuse people again.

I know your not me. And you know Im not you. 2-Mags 0-Titioso

I can see that if you didnt want what ever is happening on the cap and output side, not to be affected by the input sec. But I just dont see the issue with the transformer being damaged by rf. If it wouldnt make it through the 2 chokes, why would it enter a high inductance sec?

Just constructive conversation, and no argument. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 06, 2011, 10:09:09 PM

Yeah no problem,

I'm not completely sure what the high frequency would do to the transformer but a good guess is that it would probably burn out or short. The high frequency current usually runs on the outside of the wire (skin effect) whereas the 50/60 Hz would run inside the wire. Since the wire in the transformer is sized to carrier a specific current limit at 50/60 Hz, the the high frequency would be an issue.

As far as your second post, I'm not totally following you on your statement. Let me give it one more try, maybe I'm not explaining it clearly.
The way I see it is that the transformer is running at 60Hz. Input is 110VAC output 10,000VAC @60Hz. The HV would continue to be at 60Hz. What is generating the high frequency is the rotary spark gap. The chokes will not effect the 60Hz going to the spark gap but it will quench the high frequency generated at the spark gap from working it's way back to the secondary windings.

I hope that is what you were asking.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 06, 2011, 10:15:40 PM

I get what your saying. To your knowledge, was all of teslas ac gens working at 60hz?

I know he used dc also.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 06, 2011, 11:31:05 PM

Sorry, I don't have a clue what frequencies he used. Yes, he did us AC and DC. I think the frequency back then was 50Hz so the common generator would of been that. But when it comes to Tesla, who knows. He was always trying to increase the frequency so I wouldn't put it past him to rewire a generator to give him a higher frequency.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: slapper on March 06, 2011, 11:49:54 PM

I think many are starting to experience the advantages to coil shorting.

The advantage to hitting the peaks is you are starting at the higher
potentials to begin with so the outcomes are higher.

The higher the rate of change that can be expressed across the coil the more
potential there is for the coil to receive a multiple of frequencies limited
by the coil and surrounding environment. The higher the voltage is across the
gap, usually, the higher the rate of change. The higher the dv/dt the higher
the potential frequencies and voltage across the coil.

The components to these frequencies come from the rising edge that the coil
experiences. I think fourier shows this but it has been a while.

The first spark gap immediately following the secondary in the illustrations
is a source for these high frequency waves. The spark gap is a broadband
transmitter. The higher the frequencies the higher the voltage. The higher
frequencies, and by their nature higher voltages, are bypassed through the
caps across lower impedance coils. But to the higher frequency waves this
lower impedance loop appears relatively high since their frequencies are so
high.

My part of the images were to illustrate that there may be advantages
to adding another spark gap somewhere across part of the stout inductor loop
or coil.

By connecting a second spark gap this way a primary to an autotransformer
is basically created since part of the conductor is getting 'shorted' out
when there is a jump across the coil. The remainder of the stout conductor
loop or coil acts like the secondary to the autotransformer at these lower
wavelengths and that is where even higher voltages are achieved since we
are starting with the higher voltages and higher frequency components to
begin with.

This 2nd spark gap would have the potential to produce even higher frequencies
at even higher voltages.

My guess is that the shorter wavelengths serve to cancel out the eddys between
the coil windings but I think we only can see this during high rates of change.
So the more rapid and repetitive use of the spark gap the better since by doing
so more of these rates of change are being offered to the conductor. That is
for this application. That is the way I'm thinking on this. Rotary works better.

Perhaps a more coherent field is created with a mix of these broadband components?

The high frequency waves will be greatly attenuated through the chokes or
higher impedance secondary coil. However, and especially at these high
potentials and frequencies, there will be a variation to these potentials
over time. The higher the voltages and the higher the frequencies the more
variation there is over a shorter amount of time. What will find its way back
to the primary is lower voltage at lower frequencies.

Just some thoughts.

Take care.

nap

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 07, 2011, 12:33:57 AM

Quote from: MrMag on March 06, 2011, 09:38:06 PM
Tesla usually showed a generator as his source of power. If you built one today, you would use a high voltage transformer so your input frequency would be 50/60 Hz. The spark gap is generating the high frequency pulses that need to be removed by the chokes to protect the transformer.

And no, I'm not you. That is just tito trying to confuse people again.

Me again! >:(

maybe i'm wrong about your not him and he is not you but it is your name who is confusable ;D

it is not my intention to confuse everyone it is only you saying that!!! i did not say that your wrong what i said is that they are not only for protection.

>:(

Why tesla still made patented that drawing with chokes and spark gap?
i think your more genious than tesla and then that thing is needed to be modify ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 07, 2011, 04:05:37 AM

Quote from: MrMag on March 06, 2011, 09:24:42 PM
I think both of you guys are nuts. If you want to read more into the functions of these rf chokes, so be it. I thought you would like to know why they are in the circuit. I guess your not use to hearing the truth in this thread. With all of the confusing and misleading information being spread by tito in this thread, no wonder your confused. So, I guess with your logic, every circuit that contain an inductor, the inductor is used to boost the voltage. Tito is a great teacher.

Hey mr.Amag why are you accusing me of spreading confusion and misleading info in this thread?!!!!! >:(

b4 you accuse, prove first!!!!!

you are free to make correction but be careful!

you desperate genious!

>:(
:-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 07, 2011, 04:22:41 AM

Quote from: MrMag on March 06, 2011, 11:31:05 PM
Sorry, I don't have a clue what frequencies he used. Yes, he did us AC and DC. I think the frequency back then was 50Hz so the common generator would of been that. But when it comes to Tesla, who knows. He was always trying to increase the frequency so I wouldn't put it past him to rewire a generator to give him a higher frequency.

If your not sure don't be so sure ;D

you have a lot of maybe or who knows ;D

so, you think?

if somebody made an accident because of not sure then you have to be accuse. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 07, 2011, 09:01:52 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 07, 2011, 12:33:57 AM
Me again! >:(

maybe i'm wrong about your not him and he is not you but it is your name who is confusable ;D

it is not my intention to confuse everyone it is only you saying that!!! i did not say that your wrong what i said is that they are not only for protection.
>:(
Why tesla still made patented that drawing with chokes and spark gap?
i think your more genious than tesla and then that thing is needed to be modify ;D

It may not be your intention to confuse but that is the result.
I am not sure about your second comment here. Why did Tesla make the patent with chokes and spark gap?
Maybe he just wanted to share, I don't think he was a greedy man like some people, he shared his discoveries.
No, I'm not more genius then Tesla, I'm not even good enough to even carry his tools.

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 07, 2011, 04:05:37 AM
Hey mr.Amag why are you accusing me of spreading confusion and misleading info in this thread?!!!!! >:(

b4 you accuse, prove first!!!!!

you are free to make correction but be careful!

you desperate genious!

>:(
:-\

Because your clues and riddles just confuse people. I know english is not your first language. Sometimes you are hard to understand when you talk straight let alone speak in riddles.

B4 you claim free energy, prove first!!!!!

I don't know what you mean in the last two comments. I've been called a lot of things but never a desperate genious. I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or trying to suck up. Hopefully, your just being sarcastic.

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 07, 2011, 04:22:41 AM
If your not sure don't be so sure ;D

you have a lot of maybe or who knows ;D

so, you think?

if somebody made an accident because of not sure then you have to be accuse. ;D

I don't know everything and have never claimed anything. It was just a statement of what I thought regarding his question. If I am not 100% sure of something, I will say so. I think it is wrong for someone to claim something without being able to show proof of it. A lesson you should learn Tito.
We are not children here. Some people do act like it, you know the " I have something you don't" kind of thing. If I make a statement saying maybe, I think, or I'm not sure, it means exactly that. I am not telling people to do something so your comment doesn't make sense.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on March 07, 2011, 10:21:55 AM

The feed transformer is either a step up or step down and is not important because it could also be a simple dc feed from a battery. The idea is those two "chokes" are required and are matched to the capacitors. Why are there so many capacitors? Because he uses smaller capacitors so achieving the total capacitance is less expensive then if you had only one capacitor. All that is matched. These are probably only 10 uf each, so 6 capacitors to one inductor on each side of the make/break. That makes for some very interesting discharge effects.

So if the energy in the system can be brought down to one common denominator which would be joules, then maybe one of the guys that has good EE math skills can make a few calculations.

The question is this. If you have a 400 volts 10uf capacitor times six in parallel, how many joules can you store into them? Then, what coil inductance would be required to store the same amount of energy? Then how many turns of a coil of x awg is required to obtain that inductive equivalent in joules ? This will give you a better picture of the device and what is required to make it run at optimal levels.

wattsup

PS: Please, let's just stop the word plays.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 07, 2011, 01:11:42 PM

I suppose I could have left Titos thinking that I was MrMag, but just wanted to clear that up. Still not sure if I did. :P

As for the "chokes", I still think they are an extension of the sec of the input transformer. I would be willing to bet that the output, regardless of the other circuitry, of the sec of the input trans, will have different qualities than with just the sec alone. And being that the "chokes are in series with the sec, the sec has to play a part in the role that the "choke"s play also. And then the transformer itself, core(?) primary, will also play a part.
I may agree that the "chokes" may keep the "rf" from getting back to the transformer, but I think they have a more dutiful place in how much, as in more, gets from the sec to the caps.

After a lot of reading lately, especially Ottos letter and Loners experience recently, I dont know if I want to go this route. It seems unsafe. I am working on some more passive ideas that I hope will work out without all the rf emissions and who knows what. Even JimBoot was getting bad vibes from his Ossie motor. Dang, is it all hazardous?

Tesla laid claim of different freq, some this some that, some safe. But for the time period, do we know for sure.

But as for the chokes, been pondering how to show that they more or less boost the sec output, by the "chokes" being inductors, I believe they help Flywheel the charge into the caps, like my precharge circuit I have shown that charges the cap from a battery to nearly 2 times the bat voltage and its just a bat, coil, diode, cap and switch in series. Lose the coil, then no output greater than the bat voltage into the cap.

Could the sec of the input trans be made to substitute the sec with chokes? Not if the primary was only intended to power the sec, and the 2 inductors play their part as intended.

I will try to come up with something to show what I mean. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 07, 2011, 08:47:03 PM

ok MR.mag. so proof is the only thing you want?

one of these days i will show some proof. :)

only still didn't experience yet how to upload a video, don't worry i will try.

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 07, 2011, 10:16:37 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 07, 2011, 04:22:41 AM
If your not sure don't be so sure ;D

you have a lot of maybe or who knows ;D

so, you think?

if somebody made an accident because of not sure then you have to be accuse. ;D

Im only going to say this, and I mean it in a good way. ;) Lets call it a learning experience. ;)

Tito, read your post above. It was after you insisted that I was MrMags. Were YOU sure, had PROOF that I was he? That is hypocritical.

Common man. Be a Man and just be normal. ok? ;) You may feel attacked, but others feel left behind in something you started. Make sense? 8) Just be cool and we all will have good conversation here. :-*

Im cool 8) chillin

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 08, 2011, 01:51:32 PM

Can somebody teach Teetsla How to post a Vid ?

PLEASE!!
----------------------------
Tito quote:
only still havent experienced how to upload a video,i will try.

Thanks
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Montec on March 08, 2011, 08:51:33 PM

Hello
Ran across this information in an old book, courtesy of Google books. "The principles of electric wave telegraphy and telephony"

(First time posting a picture)
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 08, 2011, 09:22:15 PM

very nice find Montec! They are spark quenchers. That is great!

I just downloaded the pdf

Very good find.. I have never seen nor heard of this type of spark quench.
The quench may have some key function, possibly limiting the freq spectrum rather than spread as sparks do.

Thanks Montec and welcome. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 08, 2011, 10:57:25 PM

I feel very very hot!!!!!!! >:(

GOODBYE!!!!! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 08, 2011, 11:04:19 PM

Hot? Well get that air conditioning goin on that free energy ya got goin silly. ::) I have to pay for mine. So be happy. Be happy that I have to pay for mine. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 09, 2011, 08:18:19 PM

For comparison purposes with the above schematic, and to turn up the heat... ;D

See: http://rpmgt.org/588177.html
See the patent schematic/diagram (maybe someone can post it) and the Highlights at the bottom of the linked page.
Many have stated on this forum and elsewhere that the purpose of the ozonator isn't primarily to produce ozone...
Here's a clearer rendition from US Patent Office.
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-568,177-apparatus-for-producing-ozone?
Bob

Â¿tal vez hace un poquito mÃ¡s calor? ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 09, 2011, 08:43:12 PM

Teetsla
Quote:
one of these days i will show some proof.

only still didn't experience yet how to upload a video, don't worry i will try.

---------------------------------------
SSOOOooooooooo Mags,
Lets say I have a camera or cell phone Vid
you post movies all the time..............

Get me from the Phone/camera to this Forum,so that someone can click on my vid and see it here?
Please explain how you do this?

Thank you
[PPSSSSSST.......Teets Pay attention]
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 09, 2011, 09:31:11 PM

If we read our history here, you will know tito wont show or tell. Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 09, 2011, 09:39:57 PM

See, I think he will show a vid,even if its got "the black box"
Thats OK!
But right now he seems "Hot and bothered"?

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 09, 2011, 11:28:08 PM

ok ladies and gentlemen lets follow mrmag,

chokes are used for protection.

anyway onetime as i was eating, and i was chokes, jokes ;D

early in the morning when i was trying start my motorcyle, i cannot make it on without choking it, now i realize choking is important.

@chet
don't worry chet i am thinking seriously these days about my discoveries, about the water tech, i am thinking if i will show it or not co'z if that is seen everyone will get it right away, let me think first ok.

about the free energy in battery, i will put it in a box first.

Now here is my share to the world.
do you remember the free energy in thin air?
make 100 of those then try to charge a battery and combine it with a simple bedini and it works great. it gives long energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: slapper on March 10, 2011, 12:24:56 AM

removed the cover on a magnetron

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 10, 2011, 11:31:04 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 09, 2011, 11:28:08 PM
ok ladies and gentlemen lets follow mrmag,

chokes are used for protection.

anyway onetime as i was eating, and i was chokes, jokes ;D

early in the morning when i was trying start my motorcyle, i cannot make it on without choking it, now i realize choking is important.

@chet
don't worry chet i am thinking seriously these days about my discoveries, about the water tech, i am thinking if i will show it or not co'z if that is seen everyone will get it right away, let me think first ok.

about the free energy in battery, i will put it in a box first.

Now here is my share to the world.
do you remember the free energy in thin air?
make 100 of those then try to charge a battery and combine it with a simple bedini and it works great. it gives long energy.

Go ahead and make all the jokes you want. If you had a high frequency that you wanted to remove so that it did not return to the supply and possibly damage it, how would you do it? You are a smart guy with many discoveries. Please help me understand how it would be done or how you would do it.

I was also going to comment on your statement that you are thinking about showing your discoveries but thought I better not or you would say, " I'm mad now and have changed my mind".

What is the problem if everyone understands it right away. That would be good, no? No questions, easy to replicate.....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 10, 2011, 07:26:56 PM

QuoteNow here is my share to the world.
do you remember the free energy in thin air?
make 100 of those then try to charge a battery and combine it with a simple bedini and it works great. it gives long energy.

All choking aside, I think this is the vid Tito's referring to, - someone can let me know if I'm wrong.

http://ca.video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=free%20energy%20from%20thin%20air&tnr=21&vid=400648111423&l=154&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts2.mm.bing.net%2Fvideos%2Fthumbnail.aspx%3Fq%3D400648111423%26id%3D25159edf97b5356e3864b155f78b2067%26bid%3DuIUlvP4hC1WzKQ%26bn%3DThumb%26url%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fwww.ebaumsworld.com%252fvideo%252fwatch%252f386928%252f&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebaumsworld.com%2Fvideo%2Fwatch%2F386928%2F&sigr=11e9c3i5t&newfp=1&tit=Free+Electricity...from+Thin+Air

Again, here's another Tesla patent Tito referred to (before it got chokingly hot in here and he had to go):
See: http://rpmgt.org/588177.html

B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 11, 2011, 01:49:22 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on March 10, 2011, 07:26:56 PM
All choking aside, I think this is the vid Tito's referring to, - someone can let me know if I'm wrong.

http://ca.video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=free%20energy%20from%20thin%20air&tnr=21&vid=400648111423&l=154&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts2.mm.bing.net%2Fvideos%2Fthumbnail.aspx%3Fq%3D400648111423%26id%3D25159edf97b5356e3864b155f78b2067%26bid%3DuIUlvP4hC1WzKQ%26bn%3DThumb%26url%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fwww.ebaumsworld.com%252fvideo%252fwatch%252f386928%252f&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebaumsworld.com%2Fvideo%2Fwatch%2F386928%2F&sigr=11e9c3i5t&newfp=1&tit=Free+Electricity...from+Thin+Air

Again, here's another Tesla patent Tito referred to (before it got chokingly hot in here and he had to go):
See: http://rpmgt.org/588177.html

B

Good Bob ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 11, 2011, 02:02:18 AM

Quote from: MrMag on March 10, 2011, 11:31:04 AM
Go ahead and make all the jokes you want. If you had a high frequency that you wanted to remove so that it did not return to the supply and possibly damage it, how would you do it? You are a smart guy with many discoveries. Please help me understand how it would be done or how you would do it.

I was also going to comment on your statement that you are thinking about showing your discoveries but thought I better not or you would say, " I'm mad now and have changed my mind".

What is the problem if everyone understands it right away. That would be good, no? No questions, easy to replicate.....

We don't actually want to stop those high frequency, we even want to make them very long.

Now here is some question: when a person is coughing, is it good to stop his cough forcefully?
if your yawning, do you want stopping in the middle?
if your having s_x , do you want stopping IN THE CLIMAX?! Of course not! >:( ;)

WHAT WE WANT IS TO EXPRESS IT NATURALLY OKAY ;D
SO THAT YOU WON'T FEEL BAD OK ;D
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 11, 2011, 07:09:34 AM

Tito
Quote:
"about the water tech, i am thinking"
----------------------------------
Keep thinking on that "Brother"...........................

I can hardly imagine anything as exciting as bringing clean water to the world without making more pollution?

AMAZING....................[miraculous ]

Chet
PS
I hope all is well in your area with this Big earthquake,
The world needs your tech Tito,Nuclear reactors in Japan Don't do well in earthQuakes!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 11, 2011, 01:50:32 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 11, 2011, 02:02:18 AM
We don't actually want to stop those high frequency, we even want to make them very long.

Now here is some question: when a person is coughing, is it good to stop his cough forcefully?
if your yawning, do you want stopping in the middle?
if your having s_x , do you want stopping IN THE CLIMAX?! Of course not! >:( ;)

WHAT WE WANT IS TO EXPRESS IT NATURALLY OKAY ;D
SO THAT YOU WON'T FEEL BAD OK ;D
;D

By your statements above, you really don't understand what I am saying.
When you start blowing up your HVT's go back and re-read my post.
Then maybe you will understand what I am saying.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on March 11, 2011, 08:13:03 PM

3 6 9 I finally understand. Everything and I mean everything points to God, The Two give power to the One, All Three are One. When you understand this you can increase all the power you want.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 11, 2011, 09:42:28 PM

Quote from: MrMag on March 11, 2011, 01:50:32 PM
By your statements above, you really don't understand what I am saying.
When you start blowing up your HVT's go back and re-read my post.
Then maybe you will understand what I am saying.

You know mrmag, i understand what you try to say it is you who don't get it.

The effect of chokes, trys to control or possible stop those high frequency, yes to protect right? but for a balance effect and mathematical equation, you cannot remove that there is self induction happen at the same time when it trys to control it. so for me its not just for protection ok.
no matter what, coils are coils ok?

oh i forgot this -> ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 11, 2011, 09:45:55 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on March 11, 2011, 08:13:03 PM
3 6 9 I finally understand. Everything and I mean everything points to God, The Two give power to the One, All Three are One. When you understand this you can increase all the power you want.

kindly please elaborate what you mean sir, are these gears? ;)

What i understand is that all three have equal power since they are one God with three distinctive personalities ;)

And it is the source of all power.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 11, 2011, 09:49:41 PM

Quote from: ramset on March 11, 2011, 07:09:34 AM
Tito
Quote:
"about the water tech, i am thinking"
----------------------------------
Keep thinking on that "Brother"...........................

I can hardly imagine anything as exciting as bringing clean water to the world without making more pollution?

AMAZING....................[miraculous ]

Chet
PS
I hope all is well in your area with this Big earthquake,
The world needs your tech Tito,Nuclear reactors in Japan Don't do well in earthQuakes!

its a Big No!!! >:( The world needs JESUS CHRIST. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 11, 2011, 10:35:59 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 11, 2011, 09:42:28 PM
You know mrmag, i understand what you try to say it is you who don't get it.

The effect of chokes, trys to control or possible stop those high frequency, yes to protect right? but for a balance effect and mathematical equation, you cannot remove that there is self induction happen at the same time when it trys to control it. so for me its not just for protection ok.
no matter what, coils are coils ok?

oh i forgot this -> ;D

Balance effect and mathematical equation , for what? Please show me the equation you are talking about
Tell me something. do you have a computer monitor or any other electronic device that uses a power cord. Close to the end of the power cord, is there a ferrite bead where the power cable wraps around it? Is it to filter out the high frequency to stop it from getting back into your mains supply or is it there to boost the signal to your computer monitor. After all, it is a coil and a coil are just coils. ;D.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on March 11, 2011, 10:51:34 PM

Quote from: MrMag on March 06, 2011, 09:24:42 PM
I think both of you guys are nuts. If you want to read more into the functions of these rf chokes, so be it. I thought you would like to know why they are in the circuit. I guess your not use to hearing the truth in this thread. With all of the confusing and misleading information being spread by tito in this thread, no wonder your confused. So, I guess with your logic, every circuit that contain an inductor, the inductor is used to boost the voltage. Tito is a great teacher.

@ MrMag and All

Not sure if this is relevant to the RF chokes but I noticed something while researching the use of those coils in the NT diagram discussed but what I found is that NT mentions the chokes in the patent 568,176 description as:

"I interpose a device or devices in the nature of a choking-coil in order to give to the circuit a high self-induction."

And he also mentions that they can be dispensed with:

"For instance, the choking-coil as a distinctive device may be wholly dispensed with, provided the circuit in which it must otherwise be placed have a sufficiently high self-induction produced in other ways"

So to me it seems as if it's more "to give to the circuit a high self-induction" more than RF chokes.

That's my 2 cents.

Edit: Forgot to add the link to the NT patent:

http://www.google.ca/patents?id=BbJrAAAAEBAJ&printsec=drawing&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 11, 2011, 11:42:23 PM

Quote from: Goat on March 11, 2011, 10:51:34 PM
@ MrMag and All

Not sure if this is relevant to the RF chokes but I noticed something while researching the use of those coils in the NT diagram discussed but what I found is that NT mentions the chokes in the patent 568,176 description as:

"I interpose a device or devices in the nature of a choking-coil in order to give to the circuit a high self-induction."

And he also mentions that they can be dispensed with:

"For instance, the choking-coil as a distinctive device may be wholly dispensed with, provided the circuit in which it must otherwise be placed have a sufficiently high self-induction produced in other ways"

So to me it seems as if it's more "to give to the circuit a high self-induction" more than RF chokes.

That's my 2 cents.

Regards,
Paul

Thanks for the information. I never looked in his patents to see what his reasoning is for them. I know of other high voltage/high frequency circuits and they say that they are protection chokes. Good info.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on March 12, 2011, 12:45:17 AM

Thanks MrMag, I am humbled to be of help on pertinent information.

NT was really descriptive in his patents, just goes to show how degraded the whole patent system has become since then, if only everyone were so forthcoming in their description as he was!

Only wish Tito was that honest...(sorry couldn't help that one...in the name of humanity...)

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 12, 2011, 02:01:32 AM

Tesla used coil as chokes exactly like in shorting coil thread is described. Electrons stop inside due to high self-inductance and are returned back to power source or just stay in coils. Capacitors are charged by "cold electricity" or "back emf".

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 12, 2011, 02:23:12 AM

;D
;D
;D
;D
;D

Am i not look like honest? i just can't express my self very well but i'm always telling the truth, see i'm fighting for truth.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 12, 2011, 04:29:44 AM

I know this is little offtopic here but I need good sinewave generating circuit.
I tried falstad simulation with op-amp sine generator and push pull amplifier but not sure what is the output signal.
Attached is simulation. Please help.
Can somebody simulate this circuit using other tool ? I can't see output wave.
What I need is sinewave at 12V with resonable power (10-20W)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 12, 2011, 04:48:54 AM

This circuit need 1 second to run so wait and watch ;-)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on March 12, 2011, 05:05:51 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 12, 2011, 02:23:12 AM
;D
;D
;D
;D
;D

Am i not look like honest? i just can't express my self very well but i'm always telling the truth, see i'm fighting for truth.

You fight only for yourself, but you are not able to recognize that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 12, 2011, 06:42:45 AM

why everybody here is mad at me :-\
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 12, 2011, 09:07:59 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 12, 2011, 06:42:45 AM
why everybody here is mad at me :-\
;D

no Tito, I'm not ;D just would be good if your tips in one thread will be related to one discovery, method but you said so much everywhere :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 12, 2011, 09:13:19 AM

why everybody here is mad at me
;D
-----------------------------------------------------

Because you won't share.................................
And what you do say just confuses!

And then we turn on the TV and see another Chernobyl
Or 3!
Perhaps when the radiation starts to fall in the Phillipines
You'll wake up?
Enuff already!
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on March 12, 2011, 09:45:43 AM

Chet:

Those reactors in Japan are totally safe and no one is in any danger. They are just evacuating 45,000 people on general principles.

But, seriously, the freaking news keeps saying that if only those reactors were built on bearings, there would be no problems. What? There is no coolant because the pumps are not running because there is no power. You would think that a facility like that would have some back up generators or something. I am a fan of nuclear power but, when I see stuff like this where there was no prior planning, it makes me wonder about some folks.

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 12, 2011, 10:22:33 AM

Bill,
I imagine your being serious about nothing to worry about?
But when the containment building goes by by!

Thats real Bad.........................

This was the perfect storm ,and we need other alternative energies [TEETSLA!!}.

I must add,I am amazed at Tokyo,the folks all around the world that build to Japanese Siesmic standards are breathing a huge sigh of relief![Los Angeles for one]
Albsolutely Amazing............

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Blvir on March 12, 2011, 11:22:30 AM

Ramset and Tito. All I have to say is this. Each and every person, such as yourselves, that knows even a trace of knowledge concerning free energy should be (at this moment) making these devices for your neighbors and community. Intelligence comes with responsibility. Are we really going to wait for our Governments to pitch in at last moment? Come on people. We are IN the crisis! Japan is gone! Its time to be an independent nation like we were meant to be! How long guys!? Did we really need to come to this to take action!?

Quote from: Pirate88179 on March 12, 2011, 09:45:43 AM
Chet:

Those reactors in Japan are totally safe and no one is in any danger. They are just evacuating 45,000 people on general principles.

But, seriously, the freaking news keeps saying that if only those reactors were built on bearings, there would be no problems. What? There is no coolant because the pumps are not running because there is no power. You would think that a facility like that would have some back up generators or something. I am a fan of nuclear power but, when I see stuff like this where there was no prior planning, it makes me wonder about some folks.

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: e2matrix on March 12, 2011, 02:21:41 PM

Quote from: Pirate88179 on March 12, 2011, 09:45:43 AM
Chet:

Those reactors in Japan are totally safe and no one is in any danger. They are just evacuating 45,000 people on general principles.

But, seriously, the freaking news keeps saying that if only those reactors were built on bearings, there would be no problems. What? There is no coolant because the pumps are not running because there is no power. You would think that a facility like that would have some back up generators or something. I am a fan of nuclear power but, when I see stuff like this where there was no prior planning, it makes me wonder about some folks.

Bill

Bill, that's not what I seem to be reading this morning. They are saying that right now if nothing gets worse this will be the third worst nuclear disaster in history only exceeded by Cherbonyl and Three mile Island. And they say it could get worse as it's a race against time. The plant did have backup power generators but they got flooded by the tsunami. Based on the news I've seen recently this could get a lot worse but even if it doesn't it's a major disaster just in respects to the nuke plant alone.

What I don't understand (and I admit I don't know a lot about nuclear plants) is why when it is overheating the don't pull the rods out of the core. I thought that was how they did a shutdown or depleted rod replacement but they seem to only be trying to keep them from getting too hot and no mention of pulling them.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Feynman on March 12, 2011, 02:49:33 PM

Quote from: e2matrix on March 12, 2011, 02:21:41 PM
Bill, that's not what I seem to be reading this morning. They are saying that right now if nothing gets worse this will be the third worst nuclear disaster in history only exceeded by Cherbonyl and Three mile Island. And they say it could get worse as it's a race against time. The plant did have backup power generators but they got flooded by the tsunami. Based on the news I've seen recently this could get a lot worse but even if it doesn't it's a major disaster just in respects to the nuke plant alone.

What I don't understand (and I admit I don't know a lot about nuclear plants) is why when it is overheating the don't pull the rods out of the core. I thought that was how they did a shutdown or depleted rod replacement but they seem to only be trying to keep them from getting too hot and no mention of pulling them.

The Chernobyl meltdown occurred when the engineers pulled out too many control rods (which absorb neutrons) , and due to a wierd chain of events this caused reactor 'poisoning', and as the engineers reinserted the control rods, the nuclear reaction ran away. The core had begun to go uncontrolled and the rods could not be fully reinserted.

So I think it's important to leave the control rods in.

I think the problem in Japan is not control rods -- it's uncontrolled heating due to failure of power systems.

"Nuclear power reactors require cooling, typically provided by coolant flow, to remove decay heat, even when not actively generating power. Pressurized Water Reactors use water flow at high pressure to move waste heat. Once the reactor is scrammed, the core still generates a significant amount of residual heat, which is initially about seven percent of the total thermal output of the plant. If not removed by coolant systems, the heat could lead to core damage.[7][8]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster)

Risk of Nuclear Catastrophe Escalates in Japan â€" â€˜Worse than Chernobylâ€™
http://blogs.forbes.com/williampentland/2011/03/11/risk-of-nuclear-catastrophe-escalates-in-japan-worse-than-chernobyl/ (http://blogs.forbes.com/williampentland/2011/03/11/risk-of-nuclear-catastrophe-escalates-in-japan-worse-than-chernobyl/)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MasterPlaster on March 12, 2011, 03:02:44 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 12, 2011, 06:42:45 AM
why everybody here is mad at me :-\
;D

Because if you had released your plans for your free-energy device every one would have had one in their house and the nuclear reactors would have been decommisioned a long tie ago.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on March 12, 2011, 03:12:09 PM

Tito, don't worry. Have fun, and make fun! Tell us something about Jesus instead.

Edit; for all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLUKfU2AOBY&feature=related

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 13, 2011, 09:40:51 AM

YEAH Teets,
Put your head back on the pillow !Its all just a bad dream!
"Cumbi Ya"
OH Yes, The Japanese are pumping SEA Water thru the "GLOWING" contaminated reactor,Good News, you'll probably have all kinds of new "Fish" over there[Mutations]

Yeah Saudi Arabian Stock is going thru the roof,Its another Beautiful Day in TEETSVILLE!

When you wake up you can go back to building
A free energy bike for your kid!

Oh also. don't forget Qwerts request,
Tell us all about your wonderful life as a Christian
We Call it "Testimony" After all the whole world of beliefs looks to your Example of "What Christ would do"?

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 13, 2011, 08:38:47 PM

i'm sorry everyone. :(

so sad bout what happen in Japan. :(

i have to get some advice to a friend.
:(
:(
:(

Do you know that the sudden pressure from caps discharge into a parallel lot of coils gives us a lot of energy gain and after the discharge the coil has a reaction of sucking energy in the environment that makes a second reaction from the first action, and with that if we have secondary which is optional gives us extra energy gain, and it really works if the primary is coiled in bifilar.

And we can redirect all of this gain into source!

Goodluck and goodbye friend :(
sorry about everything :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 14, 2011, 12:07:31 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 13, 2011, 08:38:47 PM
i'm sorry everyone. :(

so sad bout what happen in Japan. :(

i have to get some advice to a friend.
:(
:(
:(

Do you know that the sudden pressure from caps discharge into a parallel lot of coils gives us a lot of energy gain and after the discharge the coil has a reaction of sucking energy in the environment that makes a second reaction from the first action, and with that if we have secondary which is optional gives us extra energy gain, and it really works if the primary is coiled in bifilar.

And we can redirect all of this gain into source!

Goodluck and goodbye friend :(
sorry about everything :(

Tito, you are hilarious. You really want to tell us but at the same time you really don't. I guess you must be starting to feel guilty. I know I wouldn't be able to keep it a secret this long. Especially after what has happened recently. I really don't know how you can keep it to yourself. I feel sorry for you. It really must be hard to be you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on March 14, 2011, 12:25:02 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 13, 2011, 08:38:47 PM
i'm sorry everyone. :(

so sad bout what happen in Japan. :(

i have to get some advice to a friend.
:(
:(
:(

Do you know that the sudden pressure from caps discharge into a parallel lot of coils gives us a lot of energy gain and after the discharge the coil has a reaction of sucking energy in the environment that makes a second reaction from the first action, and with that if we have secondary which is optional gives us extra energy gain, and it really works if the primary is coiled in bifilar.

And we can redirect all of this gain into source!

Goodluck and goodbye friend :(
sorry about everything :(

Sorry Tito....too little too late...Japan only suffered minor casualties compared to the rest of the world while you play games and riddles...At 6 Million people per year dying X 3 years of you playing games that's 18 Million people dead for lack of water and food...please for the sake of humanity do the right thing and prove your device openly or step away from all this nonsense and grief you've caused everyone this far...there's a time to prove something or call it quits...don't be a Mylow and do the right thing...

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 14, 2011, 03:38:50 AM

Quote from: MrMag on March 14, 2011, 12:07:31 AM
Tito, you are hilarious. You really want to tell us but at the same time you really don't. I guess you must be starting to feel guilty. I know I wouldn't be able to keep it a secret this long. Especially after what has happened recently. I really don't know how you can keep it to yourself. I feel sorry for you. It really must be hard to be you.

Do you really know what happen to all of us if free energy is in every house?.

The government will find other way to control us more and the life of everyone of us will suffer more.

i hope you got that man!

You really think that if free energy is given to everyone will give benefits to many, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT!!!!!!!!!! IT WILL KILL US MORE!!!!

IT WILL KILL US MORE!!!!!

THE casualty may be quadrouple or more than what GOAT is saying.

So i think you should think! before a word is coming out of your mouth or think the other angle of the effect of the subject to everyone, i'm not thinking for many, I'm thinking for everyone living in this earth!

This is my last post i guess seriously, but don't worry i'll watch. :)

Don't be so emotional!

Always Think Big for everything!!!

So whatever you've got in my riddles and game as you say, then that's yours, no one can get that to you ok

so whatever progress you come up then congratulation. :)

Study and work hard! CO'Z THAT IS REALLY THE INTRO IN FINDING REAL SECRET OF FREE ENERGY. ;)

GOODBYE ALL ONETIME FRIENDS ;)

One thing more, BE CAREFUL EVERYONE. :)

This is me Signing off ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on March 14, 2011, 04:09:09 AM

Nice. What the heck does that mean? I truly hope that we have not been Mylowed again. Nothing against Tito but, you either have it, or you don't. You either share it, or you don't. If you have no plans on sharing it then why be on an open source site?

Too many questions and not enough answers....as usual.

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on March 14, 2011, 05:19:55 AM

QuoteDo you really know what happen to all of us if free energy is in every house?.

The government will find other way to control us more and the life of everyone of us will suffer more.

i hope you got that man!

You really think that if free energy is given to everyone will give benefits to many, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT!!!!!!!!!! IT WILL KILL US MORE!!!!

IT WILL KILL US MORE!!!!!

Mhh... you are not wrong here, this is what I fear if one day someone release a WORKABLE and REPRODUCTIBLE device, unfortunately I have never see that, (maybe the rotoverter, is the best reproductible experience...).

The best strategy is to keep this device closely between member of this forum and use it in secret or in restrictive groups (between our family, friends, etc). Governement can TAX this energy even if this energy is "FREE" and unlimited. In France, one liter of fuel have over 80% of taxes in its price, does the Gouvernement leave these profit ?

This why, if someday I find something, I will share, but one restriction: is to use it at experimental research and in close circle of forum member, family and friends...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MasterPlaster on March 14, 2011, 06:50:22 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 14, 2011, 03:38:50 AM

You really think that if free energy is given to everyone will give benefits to many, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT!!!!!!!!!! IT WILL KILL US MORE!!!!

IT WILL KILL US MORE!!!!!

etc

No. Free energy would just be like another tool.

You can use stones to build a house or a wall to seperate yourself from the rest.
With a knife you can kill and you can cure.
With fire, you can boil you water and make it safe or you can burn peoples houses.

The real question come to: do you have faith in humanity.
Free energy would be put to good use as well as evil.
The evil is not in utilising free energy but evil hands that want to control us
would want to use is for negative aims.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 14, 2011, 08:20:47 AM

Tito
You should go to Hollywood!Your such a Drama Queen!
There's enough Fear out here!
Get some Faith Bro..................
ChetKremens@gmail.com

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 14, 2011, 01:43:28 PM

Quote from: Pirate88179 on March 14, 2011, 04:09:09 AM
Nice. What the heck does that mean? I truly hope that we have not been Mylowed again. Nothing against Tito but, you either have it, or you don't. You either share it, or you don't. If you have no plans on sharing it then why be on an open source site?

Too many questions and not enough answers....as usual.

Bill

I agree. Tito, you wonder why some get angry. You tell them you have it, you tell them you will show it. Then, nada. Do you see many that are not happy with you? Could you possibly understand why, after you call them friends and Buddies?

The person that you dont want to tell is someone that is bugging you in pm. Im sure you get that, like paparazzi.

Now your latest issue with submitting info is that it will kill us all. Well thats what powers that be would have us think. Have they told you this? The Powers that be? What are your reasons for this claim? Why now? is it just another excuse to say no?

Funny thing is, if someone else comes out with something, I think Tito will Then come out and say he already discovered it and has something better, as he has done before. By then nobody will be listening to tito. He will be wasting his breath at that point. But he will do it anyway.
Just like when I found the igniter pat, he quickly took credit for it.
Oh well.

I have some things that I am working on that may be good. It takes time. For some it is easier, for some, they never get there.

Been thinking about bifi coils and how best to utilize them.
I understand that the self capacitance helps the inductor take on input faster than a normal coil.
But Im thinking that maybe conventional use is not the way to go about it.
I have 1 bifi that I measured its capacitance. It is almost 1uf. That is a lot in my opinion.
What if, where the first half of the winding wasnt just simply looped around to the second wind to complete the bifi, but a cap was in place there, to increase the capacitance. Once we charged it, one whole half of the coil would be positive and the other negative. Then we close the input end to get the coil capacitance and the extra cap to discharge into the coil.

There will be a difference as compared to just dumping into a bifi coil. The initial difference will be that the potential difference of the total input will be divided in the coil as a whole, not just 50% of source but 100% of the source. This may be a huge gain. The immediate field produced should be staggering compared to a typical bifi setup, if there is such a thing. ;]

Working on it. Always. ;]

We cant wait for tito. I cant. And wont. I have to keep pushing forward. And I know its a good thing to pursue. This nuclear reactor stuff has got to go. I feel terrible about what happened in japan. I wish I had the means to help. =[
Soon maybe tito will stand against what we are looking for. Considering he now says it will just kill us all. Paranoia will destroy ya. Def Leopard.

We have a many talented people here. Some may already know what we are all mostly here for. I can tell. But yet we have not a single working device here.

But when I or someone does come out, I believe tito will be all over it like he presented it and that he was the reason we have come up with something. Ill admit, I believe in some of what he says, but when you mix it with the other stuff he has said, it brings doubt to everything.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 14, 2011, 03:05:51 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 14, 2011, 03:38:50 AM
Do you really know what happen to all of us if free energy is in every house?.

The government will find other way to control us more and the life of everyone of us will suffer more.

i hope you got that man!

You really think that if free energy is given to everyone will give benefits to many, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT!!!!!!!!!! IT WILL KILL US MORE!!!!

IT WILL KILL US MORE!!!!!

THE casualty may be quadrouple or more than what GOAT is saying.

I'm sure the government will find other way to get money from us too. But what about the people who do not have any electricity? None to cook, keep warm, or purify their water. How about these people?

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 14, 2011, 03:38:50 AM
So i think you should think! before a word is coming out of your mouth or think the other angle of the effect of the subject to everyone, i'm not thinking for many, I'm thinking for everyone living in this earth!

No, no your not thinking of everyone on this earth. You are only thinking of yourself. There are so many people who do not have any electricity. How are you helping them.

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 14, 2011, 03:38:50 AM
This is my last post i guess seriously, but don't worry i'll watch. :)

Don't be so emotional!

Always Think Big for everything!!!

So whatever you've got in my riddles and game as you say, then that's yours, no one can get that to you ok

so whatever progress you come up then congratulation. :)

Study and work hard! CO'Z THAT IS REALLY THE INTRO IN FINDING REAL SECRET OF FREE ENERGY. ;)

GOODBYE ALL ONETIME FRIENDS ;)

One thing more, BE CAREFUL EVERYONE. :)

This is me Signing off ;D

Goodbye (again) Tito, I honestly don't think you will be missed. It is too bad that God gave you the gift to make a discovery that you will not share. I think he is testing you and I think the devil won.

Keep up the good work Mags. Maybe you should go back before Tito and try to remember what you were doing. I have a small feeling that he may have only come here to throw you off track.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 14, 2011, 04:56:41 PM

Mags

I think this is the correct path. Bifilar as a capacitor. Just store energy in it via magnetic field and discharge via electric into load. There is a long thread in Russian site about replicating SR device.I think a few people succesfully replicated it. The output coil is bifilar closed on itself - exactly how you described, a bif-cap.
Even more, long time ago I watched a video explaining Faraday induction law.
I found that probably there is missing area here.
Imagine two closed metal rings , connect them with many many short metal wires.Now you got squirrel cage rotor, hmm.Then add rotary magnetic field and this rotor will rotate.Interesting. If I good remember I concluded that on each ring rotating magnetic field create difference in potential, a dipole.if you join them current should flow but not normal, rather electrostatic like.Cold current ?
Bifilar closed coil should behave exactly the same way. Reminds me also Otto moebius TPU.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 14, 2011, 06:09:15 PM

Thanks for the encouragement Mrmags n Forest.

I have thought a LOT about abandoning what Tito has brought to the table. Some things I feel are good that he presented. But its always far from the real picture. Like the ozone pat. He says that is where one answer is, but we have to make some change because it is all not there for what we want.
Like Pirate said, "what does that mean?" Like it is just taking a coil and just inserting it somewhere in there? A diode? 6 caps, 1 here 2 there and 4 over there? Then we should just assume values, or just try all combinations.

Tito has hit a wall. He keeps yelling from the other side, "I have it! You dont! haha I have it I have it! I cant tell you how. My brother says no. And you people can not handle this responsibility.
It will get us all killed, But I will continue to use it for me and my sons. As I am the greatest man on earth, because I have it and you dont." bunch of caca.

Hey, what ever. I just have to put tito to the side for now. Im here because of all of you, not him.
If he gives, I will appreciate and thank him as also a lot of others will.

I kinda imagined that once we had something to work on, we could all work together to develop it further. But we are way behind where we should be. =[

Ok, back to the bench.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on March 14, 2011, 07:54:21 PM

i have said: "blow out the lamp! day is here!" and you keep saying: "give me a lamp so I can find the day." -- bijaz to hayt

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on March 14, 2011, 08:22:38 PM

Tito, the reasoning you put here, perfectly matches my point, regarding my religion; I've just stopped following Jesus. Why? Because Jesus told us that following him would be like this: "brother will betray brother and turn against each other. Father and children will be torn apart. For Jesus' sake all men might hate his followers" http://biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2010:21-22&version=NIV . This way I'll go to hell, but the rest of the world will be saved, if Jesus' teachings got forgotten. No more religious wars, like just recent examples: in Ireland, Protestants against Christians, Serbia - Bosnia: Christians against Moslems and many more only most recent conflicts, mostly in Africa and Asia. I do exactly the same thing, that you do: trying to save the world. Let peace be with you and the world. I'm ready for hell.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Blvir on March 14, 2011, 09:03:07 PM

Quote from: Qwert on March 14, 2011, 08:22:38 PM
Tito, the reasoning you put here, perfectly matches my point, regarding my religion; I've just stopped following Jesus. Why? Because Jesus told us that following him would be like this: "brother will betray brother and turn against each other. Father and children will be torn apart. For Jesus' sake all men might hate his followers" http://biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2010:21-22&version=NIV . This way I'll go to hell, but the rest of the world will be saved, if Jesus' teachings got forgotten. No more religious wars, like just recent examples: in Ireland, Protestants against Christians, Serbia - Bosnia: Christians against Moslems and many more only most recent conflicts, mostly in Africa and Asia. I do exactly the same thing, that you do: trying to save the world. Let peace be with you and the world. I'm ready for hell.

Are we really having a religious discussion in a scientific thread?!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 14, 2011, 09:11:17 PM

Qwert
Quote:
I'm ready for hell.
-----------------
Thats very nice!
Save a seat for Teets!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 14, 2011, 09:15:54 PM

First of all i would like to apologize to everyone, for everyone waisted their time in this thread and for those confuses i made instead of learning ok SORRY. :(

Please understand. :(

i'm really here to learn and help, and really got a lot of progress because of you out there and i believe it is many of you who is not transparent.

i really believe its not just a tool, it really change the world, sorry bro for not granting what you want. but at least i've given you some part of my progress to work on with them, they are truth ok. don't deny.

i would like to thank you for everything :)

one thing more i don't know mylow, what ever he has done to you i don't know that ok.

i'm doing this to make a peaceful goodbye to all of you though i made you angry, hope that it makes something of me a little sense in this forum.

until next time, i'll just watch over ;)

whatever you say here, you are free and i will try to understand them.

PS. QWERT YOUR ONE OF A KIND BRO. ;)

GODBLESS!

otits L. noicaro ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 14, 2011, 11:20:18 PM

Who is this Tito guy and what is he talking about?? :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on March 15, 2011, 04:46:29 AM

Quote from: Blvir on March 14, 2011, 09:03:07 PM
Are we really having a religious discussion in a scientific thread?!

Everybody can check this thread all the way from the very begining. Can find a lot about Jesus' story.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 15, 2011, 09:37:55 AM

Blvir
Yes It is odd that religion would be discussed here,
And I'm sure your surprised to here that Tito started this
[religious talk].
He acts Much more Carnal than spiritual?

Chet
PS
So Teets ,whats it gonna take?
Does the ground under "Your" feet have to open up?
Better get some iodine pills !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 15, 2011, 08:46:31 PM

Hi everyone signing on a little ;D

I now change my style ok

i do not want quarreling anymore.

what i do is just inputing a lot of info that helps me a lot in my progress then get what info you think it can help you ok.

and for mags sorry, i will not anymore say that i have it, for you not to be mad ok. :)

if you asked me then i will answer if i want. ;)

And this is my new look -> :) ;) <-

signing off again a little :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 15, 2011, 08:49:32 PM

Quote from: MrMag on March 14, 2011, 11:20:18 PM
Who is this Tito guy and what is he talking about?? :-\

I am the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy mrmag dog ;D joke

ooops soory

b4 i forgot :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 15, 2011, 08:51:06 PM

Have a good time enjoy. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 15, 2011, 09:01:36 PM

Quote from: ramset on March 15, 2011, 09:37:55 AM
Blvir
Yes It is odd that religion would be discussed here,
And I'm sure your surprised to here that Tito started this
[religious talk].
He acts Much more Carnal than spiritual?

Chet
PS
So Teets ,whats it gonna take?
Does the ground under "Your" feet have to open up?
Better get some iodine pills !

don't worry chet i follow your suggestion to fight for the right without questions or foe, to be willing to march into hell for a heavenly cause and i know if we only be true to this glorious quest than my heart will lye peacefull and calm when i laid to my rest and the world will be better for this.

I forgot the lyrics sorry :D ;D

b4 i forgot -> :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 15, 2011, 09:23:15 PM

Very Handsome!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 15, 2011, 10:37:14 PM

Teeeets! ;)

Im sorry also Toots. The things that I said were mainly to get you to understand some things. ;) :-*

Looks like we have a project. ;D What is it? lol I like the triple plate capacitor. Is that home made or we can buy? I just have too many questions, but Ill be happy with one. ::)

Any way, glad to see something fresh. Thanks Teets, what ever it is. lol Looks like a cool resonator.

Now lets kick some nuclear plant ass and build the new substitute. I pray. Did all day for the people of Japan. Was looking at pics, not of the destruction so much but the people. You can see it in everyones faces. Terrible.

Good to see your in good spirits Toto, The man of many names. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on March 15, 2011, 10:43:59 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 14, 2011, 03:38:50 AM
Do you really know what happen to all of us if free energy is in every house?.

The government will find other way to control us more and the life of everyone of us will suffer more.

i hope you got that man!

You really think that if free energy is given to everyone will give benefits to many, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT!!!!!!!!!! IT WILL KILL US MORE!!!!

IT WILL KILL US MORE!!!!!

I think your absolutely right, I also think the way everyone here's goading Tito is a shame He has been sharing if you listen but you want it handed to you.

When free energy hits the world what do you think will happen

The world economy will collapse

War- if we don't buy their oil, products why would they need us

Would be far better to keep in reserve, then when they make their move and they will, you will be able to help people.

If you think that the world would be a utopia if we had free energy you are sadly mistaken and living in a fairytale.

So Tito the cap releases into the coil the coil builds a magnetic field but the sudden release causes the magnetic field to accelerate taking in more that what was released. When the coil changes direction and releases are you getting another draw.

David

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 15, 2011, 11:35:02 PM

Hey Dave

Well thats a sound opinion on what might happen. Ok so we buy their oil. The transfer from oil to all electric is still far off. Sea vessels that ship things would see an enormous savings, even oil tankers.
Jet planes would still need oil. And so they get mad, maybe not as it came to fruition. Everyone would save in just about every way. And you think the economy is great the way it is?

I think that maybe free energy will give us a time of peace as in the Bible. Just opinion. ;]

There are many directions that the world could take after free energy. Even though THEY are the richest, dont mean it cant be taken away from them. ie Egypt. We the people, a whole world of people that would really appreciate what we are into. Take a poll. ;]

As for Teets drawings, I see an AC AV plug, no diodes. It flexes the input coil with the coils cap, and induces into the sec which is all in tune, resonating away, while pulling virtually nada from the source. Nothing much more than it takes to produce the source. ;] Very slick.

Now that I have looked at it more, the drawing on the right is a substitute for the 3 legged cap.
But if the 3 legged cap is a better way, then 2 caps in series will give you a 3 legged cap. ;]

Ive seen on YT a guy has a ferrite transformer, many turns fine wire primary, and very stout 5 or 6 turn sec with a light bulb. The pri was open ended and 1 wire was introduced to the output of what looked to be a horizontal TC. And the light bulb lit brightly, 1 wire in. I figure the many turn coil need be long enough so the freq input has some delay from end to end to produce potential across the coil, where as if we input to the stout coil, the freq would have to me very high, probably cell phone freq.

Anyways, good show tweetles! So really what I need to get back into is finding resonance and using it.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 16, 2011, 12:33:53 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jFT1Ze6igI&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nJlqMmIBQk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL4HpA_rH4M&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbF63Gzvtd4&feature=related

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 16, 2011, 01:18:24 AM

Yes Mags your right. I have seen this drawing before but can't remember where. Can anyone read the signature on it or can Tito let us know where he found it. The drawing on the right explains the capacitor setup on the left.

@Tito

Since you posted this you must have tried it. What kind of results did you get with it and could you tell us what resonant frequency you used in the setup.

-edit-

Just looked again at the sig. I think it'd John Bendini. I'll have to look it back up.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on March 16, 2011, 01:23:38 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on March 15, 2011, 10:43:59 PM
I think your absolutely right, I also think the way everyone here's goading Tito is a shame He has been sharing if you listen but you want it handed to you.

When free energy hits the world what do you think will happen

The world economy will collapse

War- if we don't buy their oil, products why would they need us

Would be far better to keep in reserve, then when they make their move and they will, you will be able to help people.

If you think that the world would be a utopia if we had free energy you are sadly mistaken and living in a fairytale.

So Tito the cap releases into the coil the coil builds a magnetic field but the sudden release causes the magnetic field to accelerate taking in more that what was released. When the coil changes direction and releases are you getting another draw.

David

Hi David

1. This is an open source OU forum.
2. 6 Million people are dying every year for lack of food and water.

1a. Tito has yet to provide a working circuit for everyone to validate.
2b. 6 Million people are dying every year for lack of food and water while Tito keeps playing games.

3a. If you had a circuit that was OU on a opened source forum wouldn't you disclose it for everyone to replicate/validate and improve upon or would you hold it a secret and play games with people just for the fun of it?

3b. 6 Million people are dying every year for lack of food and water, would you be the one to help them or condemn them to their death just because you want to play games?

Never mind this whole post if you have anything other to say than yes I want to help.

PS: As far as your point on "The world economy will collapse War- if we don't buy their oil, products why would they need us" doesn't make any sense, the world is already at war over oil reserves and reducing the dependency on them would mean less need to go to war for oil.

And as far as your point on "If you think that the world would be a utopia if we had free energy you are sadly mistaken and living in a fairytale." Well you go ahead and tell that to the 6 Million people are dying every year for lack of food and water.

I don't find your arguments persuasive or constructive.

Getting back to the subject at hand...ENERGY AMPLIFICATION...where is the original OU circuit that Tito gave us...oh yeah, it doesn't exist.

PPS: Tito, the videos you posted aren't helping the 6 Million people are dying every year for lack of food and water.

PPPS: Goad; to spur: give heart or courage to....

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on March 16, 2011, 04:40:40 AM

QuotePS: As far as your point on "The world economy will collapse War- if we don't buy their oil, products why would they need us" doesn't make any sense, the world is already at war over oil reserves and reducing the dependency on them would mean less need to go to war for oil.

And as far as your point on "If you think that the world would be a utopia if we had free energy you are sadly mistaken and living in a fairytale." Well you go ahead and tell that to the 6 Million people are dying every year for lack of food and water.

I don't find your arguments persuasive or constructive.

I think even if we reduce oil dependency, they can play with supply and demand price, so if we consumme 4 times less oils, they can produce 4 times less and the price increase 4 times more in the market, so we have our "free energy", they continue to have substantial profit from oil no one is prejudiced, this is win-win situation, maybe the best situation if we would see the first "free energy" power plant.

Even with FE, we need petrol for cloths, plastic, alcool, resin, for your barbecue, heavy air plane, or any application that a FE device cannot take place...

So the whole globalized capitalised system will not collaspse even with FE, but even boosting the economic growth of the world...

The FE will not resolve problem of war, imagine a country like Iran, Libya or North Corea tu use this FE to declare war to Europe, America, I could imagine we can create powerful weaponry with FE, more dangerous than nuclear.

This why I am sceptic to use that in public, FE can become a boosting factor or a destructive technology for humanity, the humanity is not matured to use powerful FE device...

Back to the topic: It's like a LC resonator, LC in series amplify voltage/current, so L1 feed L2 and vice versa, the main problem if what happen if load secondary side, a risk of detuning LC and the load reflect back to the source is not at exclure...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on March 16, 2011, 05:11:17 AM

In just present time, I know a product which is manufactured in pretty large quantities, and is unavailable in the USA and I guess, in rich countries; It is available only for poors, through WHO (Health Org.) I guess. Won't believe, what is it. Adjustable Glasses. >> http://www.google.com/search?q=adjustable+glasses&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a << This is a proof, governments can suppress whatever they want; here they protect huge eyeglass industry.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wings on March 16, 2011, 05:16:40 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 15, 2011, 08:51:06 PM
Have a good time enjoy. :)

Tito .....
close to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRQkRYXtob8&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on March 16, 2011, 01:13:21 PM

Tito, the diagram you provided recently shows a sign and date of 11-23-2010. But you claimed your breakthrough discovery almost a year earlier, on December 9 of 2009. Can you show that original one?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 16, 2011, 01:27:37 PM

Quote from: wings on March 16, 2011, 05:16:40 AM
Tito .....
close to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRQkRYXtob8&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

That is the vid I spoke of above. =]

From the drawings, cant say it is the exact situation, but it demonstrates the theory perfectly as to 1 wire in.

Thanks for finding that wings. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 16, 2011, 05:32:31 PM

Mags
I think this is SR setup.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 16, 2011, 05:37:48 PM

Hey Forest

Im not sure what SR is. Have seen it posted but never looked to see what it is.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: petersone on March 16, 2011, 06:12:09 PM

Hi All
I don't know if this idea counts as energy amplification,if not move it to another thread.
It is very simple so maybe no good,but here go's.
A air cored coil,on a rotor,it passes a fixed,iron cored coil,with a magnet on the back end,any juice from the fixed is "free"?
All comments are welcome!!
peter

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 16, 2011, 06:44:56 PM

Mags
SR 193 replicated Tariel Kapandaze device
{the replication part is in question }
Some SR 193 stuff here
http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&safe=active&client=pub-2734280293205008&cof=FORID%3A13%3BAH%3Aleft%3BCX%3Aoverunity%252Ecom%2520search%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fintl%2Fen%2Fimages%2Flogos%2Fcustom_search_logo_sm.gif%3BLH%3A30%3BLP%3A1%3BLC%3A%230000ff%3BVLC%3A%23663399%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3B&adkw=AELymgW-CR1mehk8W17ChbWhzROhowkPV4cwiI94UiMgGoB8SOjdoM2SN6g2LWIUggtxLD4uWIxvwyCsoEmn_jOPKpctEd0kGm8zPSpasvNCRTKQoTVK9RG-l4JOJpRkbUshmbKY0HzLUtlIWD3lWworpeocrEyKj03W1vssVFPJTpkQHFAp7SW_a3z2tR2TWj0OGudytfjbjas7f3B4MMFHCPTRsdfSbDqW-0HpwS1hHiZYkR3BhxSrjREwccQHXQmZsuBS-B1o1eMLcLMK8Mx2cGSK8NnDq4YrXUIRiO8CNwXZlvhB4iU&channel=6724390970&boostcse=0&q=SR+193&btnG=Search&cx=partner-pub-2734280293205008%3Aw8e3l5-sj0c

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 16, 2011, 08:00:48 PM

Quote from: petersone on March 16, 2011, 06:12:09 PM
Hi All
I don't know if this idea counts as energy amplification,if not move it to another thread.
It is very simple so maybe no good,but here go's.
A air cored coil,on a rotor,it passes a fixed,iron cored coil,with a magnet on the back end,any juice from the fixed is "free"?
All comments are welcome!!
peter

Sort of. You may get some power out of the coil but you need to also look at the power used to turn the rotor. If you get more power out of the fixed coil then you need to put in the rotor, you got it made.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 16, 2011, 08:38:46 PM

Dave

Back in 1933, Tesla was asked a question on the very same subject we spoke of. And I agree.
Imagine back then, the known need for these technologies.

In the Philadelphia Public Ledger of November 2nd, is an interview with Tesla under
the headline "Tesla <Harnesses' Cosmic Energy." In it he was "Asked whether the sudden
introduction of his principle would upset the present economic system, Dr. Tesla replied, <It is
badly upset already.' He added that now as never before was the time ripe for the development of
new resources."

But what do we get instead, pollution, high energy costs, Major oil spills, Nuclear disasters.
This is what THEY chose for us. ;] And you are happy with that?

Not coming down on you Dave. ;] I just read that article and thought it would fit here for all.

=]
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: petersone on March 17, 2011, 04:27:50 AM

Hi
Many thanks for your reply MrMags.
How I see it is,taking juice from the fixed coil will cause the rotor coil to give more juice,as it is now seeing more flux coming towards it,which will have to be paid for,so any juice taken from the rotor is subject to normal Lenz's law,but the fixed coil is free.I think?
peter

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on March 17, 2011, 05:23:27 AM

Quote from: petersone on March 17, 2011, 04:27:50 AM
Hi
Many thanks for your reply MrMags.
How I see it is,taking juice from the fixed coil will cause the rotor coil to give more juice,as it is now seeing more flux coming towards it,which will have to be paid for,so any juice taken from the rotor is subject to normal Lenz's law,but the fixed coil is free.I think?
peter

My 2 cents is that yes, Lentz will play a roll here and it may not be correct to consider that the energy from the stator coil is free as Lentz will make the rotor harder to spin, ie require more energy to rotate, as the load on the stator coil increases. The only thing I know of that sort of gets around this is the Bedini SG motor. I have built a couple of them but, it is very hard to determine exactly what is really going on there, at least it is for me. I have had mixed results even though my rotor spins at very high rpm. (about 10,000 or a little more)

I hope this helps but, listen to MrMags as he really knows of what he speaks.

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: petersone on March 17, 2011, 05:58:25 AM

Hi Bill
Thanks for your reply,be sure I will listen to MrMags and your self,but I think you my be be misunderstanding me,what ever juice is taken from the rotor coil will have to be paid for,I have a simple rig that seems to show that the fixed coil is free as the rotor coil only sees an even more increasing flux,and that increase is free.
peter

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: petersone on March 17, 2011, 07:40:55 AM

Hi Bill
Just to add,you are right in saying the fixed coil will impose a load on the rotor,but in return,the rotor coil will give more juice,I think?
peter

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on March 17, 2011, 08:01:25 AM

Exactly. And, according to the laws as I understand them, (I am no expert here) those values will balance out, minus any losses and drag which will/should/ keep it underunity. In other words, the more you get out of the rotor, the harder it will be for the rotor to turn. I know you are using the stator as a pick-up point but, the power comes from the rotating rotor as I see it. These are the balance of forces as represented by the 2nd law of thermodynamics, such as it is.

One more disclaimer here, this is my understanding, it is not the end all, be all, of any evaluation of your particular device.

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: petersone on March 17, 2011, 08:28:42 AM

Hi Bill
Many thanks for you continuing replies.
As I see it you will only pay for the juice taken from the rotor coil,not a penny,not a penny less.
Taking it step by step.
Moving coil go's to fixed mag.normal genny.
If i were to move the fixed mag.towards the coil,more juice,but more drag on the rotor,still every thing normal,plus the effort in moving the mag.
Now,with the fixed coil loaded,same as above,but no effort in moving the mag.plus some juice.I wish I could see were I'm going wrong!!!
peter

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on March 17, 2011, 08:40:23 AM

Peter:

You may indeed not be wrong. Let's see what MrMags has to say about this. I am only telling you what I think with what I THINK I know. Nothing definitive here on my part at all as I am still learning. This is just my understanding is all, for what it is worth.

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: petersone on March 17, 2011, 09:12:19 AM

Hi Bill
OK,thanks,see how it pans out,meant to say,not a penny MORE,not a penny less(Lord Archer)
peter

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on March 17, 2011, 01:56:31 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ0FyFaPqJQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
You can short the coils and not take the energy you put in but use the energy induced by the coil.
This is the way to free energy.

David
And yes if we could have had free energy in Tesla's time, our economy would have been based on it but now it will hurt more than help.
There is coming a time when the dollar will crash and they will make their move to take the world, then is the time.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 17, 2011, 04:34:56 PM

Peter,

Did you already build this device or is it an idea? Could you possibly draw it out or supply a picture. You sort of lost me on the explanation and a picture is worth a thousand words. I have an idea of what you are talking about but I think something is missing but until i get a better understanding I can't say for sure. (I am not as smart as some people play me up to be ) :)

Dave,

You post in the other thread about using copper and iron wires with little or no cogging is a good idea. I think you are headed in the right direction. Do you think you could replace the iron in the stator with iron wire? I always wondered about that since the iron is what is cogging the rotor. If you made the iron a coil instead of a solid piece, you may be able to harvest or enhance the the operation. This is my personal opinion (Just thinking out loud), I don't want to sound like Tito.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 17, 2011, 04:42:44 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on March 17, 2011, 01:56:31 PM
You can short the coils and not take the energy you put in but use the energy induced by the coil.
This is the way to free energy.

Can you expand a bit on this.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: petersone on March 17, 2011, 05:46:55 PM

Hi MrMags
Thanks for your reply,I do have a crude test rig,but not good enough for anything conclucive,please see very poor pic.
peter

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on March 17, 2011, 07:45:13 PM

Im not saying iron is the way to go. Study a voltage transformer, how many physical devises do you see.

Everything in creation points to God everything works in three's.

OK you have two coils inducing a voltage into the iron that is wrapped back up around the coils, but if you take the two coils and wrap a toroid inside them, short the coils Leedskalnin style what will happen.

Tesla 3 6 9

David

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on March 17, 2011, 11:20:57 PM

http://feynmanslab.com/docs/tpu/Bob_Boyce_TPU.pdf
This was posted today its the general theory but I think it can be simplified, it carries a very serious warning I would suggest that you be very careful investigating this tech.

If your not qualified don't do this at home ;D

David

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 18, 2011, 12:11:39 AM

Hi everyone, i want you to meet my brother :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8ZuKF3dxCY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc4HGQHgeFE&feature=related

i want you to learn the most high tech in this dimension The spirit tech 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ4a_Gu49SA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDmivrnktkQ&NR=1

nothing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLZxJZ70MQ4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOmN9P079n8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNTxA0nLFZM&feature=related

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 18, 2011, 01:42:51 AM

Tito,

You are off topic with these videos. You remind me of IST always posting music videos. We want ENERGY AMPLIFICATION.

Maybe you need some "feel good" videos to cover your selfishness. You keep feeling better while children die.

Maybe you should do as one of the videos mention,

At any moment I
could start being a
better person.
But which moment
should I choose?

That's what we are waiting for.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 18, 2011, 06:06:10 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCTkGgKZDKA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqefeNBcowI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVADwb4kAJA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrhmA23L8cE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtLlAljKQ4g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYWgNxL9QZY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbD0I1FuJKA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsn0IwiPH2s&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z1DAhwYJio&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqTZCcrcsgo&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fr4YuCDY9M&feature=related

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 18, 2011, 08:30:09 AM

Well
Tito,I see lots of power is required in your movies,Sort of like what we need in this world right now,
Lots of power!

Perhaps you don't pray for wisdom or "Signs" ?
If I had what you claim to have,The very Least I would do is Pray !
And the "signs" of the last years,they couldn't be more obvious!
You are gonna look and feel awfully silly [at the very least]at the pearly gates.
Your becoming more and more like a bad Joke!

Not Funny..................
Chet
PS
As Mags has hinted to,
Did it ever occur to you that the beginning of a 1000 year reign would need some free energy??
Stop holding up the works!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on March 18, 2011, 06:08:33 PM

Tito, I recommend you the very first post of this link. But you must read it VERY CAREFULY, since it passed two years already. Two years is a lot of time, for some people at least.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6944.msg161234#msg161234

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 18, 2011, 06:34:01 PM

I believe I have cracked one tip : how to efficiently use source . Small step but anyway.
Think about two situations :
1. You connect bulb across battery terminals. This is not good. Shorting dipole make chemical reaction inside battery which is against dipole.
2. You connect two batteries by negative terminals (presumably good grounded).One battery has to have twice the voltage of the first one.
Then put load between positive terminals of two batteries. Now dipole while shorting or rather balancing make a current flow to the first battery.

Of course we not always use batteries. Just make a little twist. ;D

Is that correct way Tito ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: petersone on March 19, 2011, 10:51:43 AM

Hi Bill,MrMags,and All
In a normal genny the coil and rotor have a straight 1-1 relationship,more juice=more drag,less juice=less drag,correct? In this setup are saying that is not the case? but that's not what I'm seeing for some reason,I'm seeing more juice from the rotor coil,for which I am paying,but the 1-1 relationship is maintained,so,were am I paying for the juice from the fixed coil? I probably am paying for it,but I don't know where.
peter

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 20, 2011, 05:13:09 AM

Quote from: forest on March 18, 2011, 06:34:01 PM
I believe I have cracked one tip : how to efficiently use source . Small step but anyway.
Think about two situations :
1. You connect bulb across battery terminals. This is not good. Shorting dipole make chemical reaction inside battery which is against dipole.
2. You connect two batteries by negative terminals (presumably good grounded).One battery has to have twice the voltage of the first one.
Then put load between positive terminals of two batteries. Now dipole while shorting or rather balancing make a current flow to the first battery.

Of course we not always use batteries. Just make a little twist. ;D

Is that correct way Tito ?

That is one of many ways actually, you are correct :)
Bearden has also other way and i also made or discover other way by much the same way as tesla switch.
and if you can convert it in transistor then its the best and small.

ps:Here is the new way i made, i used input and the effect of the input witch is the output and redirect it into a normal power amplification method then put it back the input and the output into the source. and that i believe the most efficient way using input co'z the input we used made an output and the effect of the input into all output to itself. guzzzh very hard to express really. :)

@qwert
sorry, but what exactly you mean? :)

ohh, i think i got it, i said that just to see if they will share their free devices but unfortunately as you see no one gave, their too greedy. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 20, 2011, 11:24:17 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 20, 2011, 05:13:09 AM

ohh, i think i got it, i said that just to see if they will share their free devices but unfortunately as you see no one gave, their too greedy. ;D

Tito, I don't think anyone else has said that they have a free energy device. As far as I know, you are the only person who has claimed to have one and we are still waiting for that information.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on March 20, 2011, 03:31:50 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 20, 2011, 05:13:09 AM

@qwert
sorry, but what exactly you mean? :)

ohh, i think i got it, i said that just to see if they will share their free devices but unfortunately as you see no one gave, their too greedy. ;D

I see it in somewhat different way: In that post you encourage experimenters to share. You say that: "everyone will benefit", you even show how to do that: it is "just a matter of copy and paste". Today you say that you don't know how to do it or that it can be even dangerous when others got the knowledge. No more "everyone will benefit"?
The problem doesn't seem that "people are too greedy": I can show you examples that you expressed your satisfaction when someone helped you in the past: that's not a sign of greed: they just didn't have what you asked for, at least nobody claimed having a successful device. Nobody, but you. When you wanted somebody else to share, you've seen no obstacles. Today, when you declare a success, you see a lot of obstacles to share.

Edit: You also declare to be a specific religious guy. I am also one. And I know that this religion, which seems to be yours AND mine, recommends followers to SHARE IN GOOD FAITH.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on March 20, 2011, 03:37:11 PM

Qwert:

Well said sir.

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 20, 2011, 04:31:07 PM

Tito in the beginnings here posted the circuit below.
He was addressing it to Stefan, but Stefan claimed he was busy at the time with his battery experiments and the thread didnt continue from there.
He was claiming to know the secret to the tpu, and this was his only show of his own.

From what I see, the relay contacts sent 12v across the 220 side of the transformer. When the contacts release, the cap across the contacts allows oscillation, at Im sure of a higher voltage (maybe 220v ;] ), even through the battery, and induces output to the 24v side.

The diode and resistor allow for MORE return, during oscillation, to the battery during one half cycle, and the other half of the cycle the diode ignores. The resistor with the diode helps not to kill the oscillation too fast while still pumping to the battery during each osc cycle. I tried it in Sim and the diode/resistor does as I propose. ;]

Now, the 24v side also sends charge to the battery. The inverter runs off of the battery. "IF" there is around 220v oscillations produced on the 220 side, then 24v out would work very well at charging a 12v battery. ;]

Tito might not like that I am showing this. He has gotten defensive before and asked that all his posts be erased when I had shown it.
I think this tells a lot, of the possible validity of this circuit.

Teets, Im not trying to piss you off. Im trying to "follow your leader", at least what you intended to show back then, when you HAD the attitude to help the world. It has already been written in stone. I am just trying to remind everyone of what was and may have been ignored.

I did some experiments on this back when I had first seen it, but I had no clue until recently as to the effect of the res/diode on the oscillation. And to further confuse me in my adolescence of these things at the time, I didnt think of the cap as being a part of oscillation, I thought it was a protector for the contacts.

Im going to try some things with it this week to see what I can see, after my new orbonbon setup, which I hope to have going today.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 20, 2011, 04:34:58 PM

Tito
Why you don't explain this method of efficient use of battery to Japan people ? They need electric heat now, even small like 600W heater made from electric dryer filament and a 12V computer fan .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW2H5at3478

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 20, 2011, 04:58:56 PM

Mags

I think you you got it right ! :D

I'm trying the other version with parallel resonant circuit as Tito shown also (see picture)
One problem : ordinary 230/24V transformer probably do not allow large enough current on the secondary side when connected in reverse .We need a large power toroidal version transformer and better maybe to wind by hand.
Do you think two relays could be placed in one circuit , both in self -oscillating mode ? Ah,I see the problem may be relay coil resistance not allowing big current to flow to transformer coil !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 20, 2011, 05:26:04 PM

Thanks forest ;]

That circuit is what Ossie used, and he claimed to charge the running battery and another one. The 2 switches, in my opinion need to be very precise as to switching together. As Ossie said it takes some fine tuning. I imagine so with 2 separate reeds. possibly using reed relays, being that the coils consume very little current, could be used with a timer circuit to pulse the coil and eliminate the rotor. I dont believe the rotor contributes as much as the coil capture does. Air core gens seem quite weak.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on March 21, 2011, 06:11:24 PM

@all

I have some questions to ask you guys on what really happens when you pulse a coil.

Ok, you have a power supply positive (P) connected to a first side of a coil (C1). The coil has a center tap (CT) and the other coil end C2 is connected to one side of a momentary switch (S1) that is normally open and the other side of the switch (S2) is connected to to the power supply negative (N). So in simple short form, this set-up would look like......
P-C1-C2-S1-S2-N
Simple enough, so here are three first questions.

1) With the switch open, if you put your volt meter on S1 and S2, what is the polarity of S1?

2) When the switch is closed what happens to the polarity you identified at S1 or asked another way, where does the polarity you identified at S1 go? I mean, if there is a polarity there that exists, then if it is now longer there, it has to go somewhere. It cannot just disappear. So........

3) When the switch is open again, where does the polarity of S1 come from to be again at its landed position?

Oh, I forgot, the coil has a 2" diameter single layer of 250 turns of 24 awg magwire. The diameter and number of turns is irrelevant (it could be a straight piece of wire) but I want to give you something that really had a wide spread between input and output.

I invite everyone to answer this question, both from the more classical EEers here and from the less classical OUers.

Please do not expand further then this set-up. Stay focused on these three questions. Take your time, this is not a race. What we need to talk about is exactly confined to these limits, and then, if things go well, we can move forward from there.

I know this is off topic but what is the topic of this thread anyways.

Last thing. When I ask about polarity, I mean positive or negative and not north and south.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 21, 2011, 10:13:00 PM

Hey Watts

1
If the pos meter lead is on s1 and the neg meter lead is on s2, and the switch is open, s1 would be identified as positive in reference to s2. ;]

2
Seems like a loaded question, considering the post hints to a test of sorts. If we were still referencing from s2, and well knowing that the switch has some resistance, s1 can still be measured and considered positive in reference to s2. ;]

3
Well, I dont think I have ever heard of this description as to the positive, or negative as being something that moves around as if it were a ball or object. But as I see it, if we opened the switch, with the meters leads in place as before, once the field collapse settles from its oscillation, the posititve would still be s1 with reference to s2.

All answered as to how i understood the question. ;]

Nothing is off topic here, for a long time now. ;] its Titos lounge.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on March 22, 2011, 06:17:04 AM

Hi Wattsup,

1) and 2) I agree with Mags. Notice to 2): polarity remains the same as in 1) but voltage amplitude gets down to the microVolt or mV range (to that of the voltage drop across the switch).

3) Suppose your 'polarity meter' is a scope, then you could see the opposite polarity voltage spike on S1 wrt S2 what the collapsing field in your coil creates. And then the polarity returns to power supply positive as stated in 1).

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on March 23, 2011, 04:29:23 PM

@gyulasun and @Magluvin

Thanks for responding to the three questions. Hmmmmmm. I gave this a few days to see if anyone else will answer the questions. OK, I am at work right now but when I return home I will prepare the answers and give them out here. Your answers were both the standard one would expect, but question #2 is wrong and #3 needs more explaining. I see now that for guys with the more classical perspective, I will have to break this down very slowly so you can understand what I will "try" to explain. I think it will be worth it.

wattsup

PS: Actually, if you figure that your volt meter has no real authority whatsoever to determine if a closed line is actually positive or negative, this will start to explain part of it, but there is so much more in this then that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Montec on March 23, 2011, 07:42:27 PM

Hello wattsup

1 Open switch acts like a resistor of a very large value. No current flow so you get the same voltage as the power source.
2 Closed switch acts like a resistor of a very small value. Current flows so voltage across switch is dependent on resistance of switch.
3 Same as number 1. Polarities are a function of voltage generated across a circuit element.
:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on March 24, 2011, 11:17:30 PM

energy amplification

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 25, 2011, 02:06:49 AM

Quote from: wattsup on March 23, 2011, 04:29:23 PM
@gyulasun and @Magluvin

Thanks for responding to the three questions. Hmmmmmm. I gave this a few days to see if anyone else will answer the questions. OK, I am at work right now but when I return home I will prepare the answers and give them out here. Your answers were both the standard one would expect, but question #2 is wrong and #3 needs more explaining. I see now that for guys with the more classical perspective, I will have to break this down very slowly so you can understand what I will "try" to explain. I think it will be worth it.

wattsup

PS: Actually, if you figure that your volt meter has no real authority whatsoever to determine if a closed line is actually positive or negative, this will start to explain part of it, but there is so much more in this then that.

I hope you make it home soon. I am very interested on your take of the questions you posted. I would also like to know why my meter has no authority to determine the polarity. As far as I know, isn't it all relative. Across a closed switch, wouldn't one lead be a little more positive or negative then the other? I can't wait to see what you are getting at.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nul-points on March 25, 2011, 04:35:24 PM

Quote from: wattsup on March 23, 2011, 04:29:23 PM
@gyulasun and @Magluvin

Thanks for responding to the three questions. Hmmmmmm. I gave this a few days to see if anyone else will answer the questions.

wattsup

hi Watts

interesting questions

this is my take on it:
(assuming v. high impedance DVM!)

1) Switch open;
initial DVM reading at S1, relative to S2: +V Volts

2) Switch *closing* (< 0.1 second);
any 'switch-bounce' present is likely to cause a few high voltage spikes as current starts to flow thro' coil then interrupts, giving high 'coil field-collapse' voltage ;

Switch closed (> few seconds);
steady-state DVM reading at S1, relative to S2: +N uVolts
{where N = ((Rsw)/(Rsw + Rcoil)) x V;
Rsw probably a few milliohms, Rcoil probably a few hundred milliohms,
so steady voltage on S1 wrt S2 of the order of around +1mV?}

3) Switch opens;

this is where it can get funky!

depending on voltage V, inductance L, & switch air gap,
then you *could* get sparking across S1-S2 inside switch

If NO spark occurs then the stored energy in the coil tries to dissipate any way it can, which since the switch is open & no current is arcing across it, the energy would probably dissipate in the form of an oscillation between the inductance of the coil and its self-capacitance (however small)

the DVM probably couldn't respond quickly enough to give a sensible reading but a scope might show you an initial high positive 'kick', followed by a decreasing sine wave, at S1, relative to S2, at the resonant frequency of the coil/self-capacitance, with the amplitude decaying away, offset at +V

If there IS sparking across the switch, then current will continue to flow in the same direction thro' the switch due to coil-field collapse, but because the coil changes from storing to generating current the voltage polarity across the coil reverses and the S1 voltage rises sharply, much greater than +V

so, there will probably be an initial (very fast) high positive spike of voltage on S1, relative to S2, until the spike voltage reaches the break-down voltage of air for the switch gap-length

then the spark will extinguish when the energy has decreased enough that the voltage can't support a spark across the gap, at which point the remaining energy would dissipate as above, with a smaller decreasing sine wave offset at +V

...but, hey - what do i know?!? ;o)

come on then Watts - spill the beans, man

all the best
np

http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com (http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 27, 2011, 08:44:01 AM

Sorry to interupt this episode of
"Watts the answer"?
But My wife has Charles Stanley [Tito's preacher ]
On the Tele.......

Tito,Do you really "Listen" to this man?
Brother, you gotta be Tormented!

This morning he's asking if we "Listen"? And what do we hear?

I hear,
SHARE !! TITO !!

People are Dieing!!
This could make Chernobyl look like a Picnic!!

ChetKremens@Gmail.com
PS
Well, I heard other things too [but there for me].
Thats all I heard for You.

SHARE........................................!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 27, 2011, 04:45:44 PM

I am going to post this again. If you read back to titos early posts, you will find he describes the transformer as if home made. It seems he was using a trifi coil, as per his description and also makes note of a zener diode, but we cant see these things in the circuit.
I still believe my description on the previous page is a good one. Yet it still may be missing visually these other ingredients.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on March 28, 2011, 07:14:18 PM

@Magluvin

Regarding the diagram in your post above, it seems like this is not right. There are two direct lines from the battery to the inverter that will stay as the direct feed. Even if that transformer was pulsed it will not really add to the output. Also the bridge rectifier seems totally useless since the output of the transformer will not be AC.

I think you are better off removing that direct line and put a dioded capacitor tank at the transformer output that feeds the inverter. Then at the output of the inverter you can always send some recharge back.to the battery while supplying the load.

wattsup

PS: I will post my answers to the three questions later tonight. I made an animation but it needs just a few more changes. I'm done in about an hour.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 28, 2011, 08:37:33 PM

Hey Watts

I can say that im not sure that it would work. I just assumed things based on my knowledge that I have now as compared to when I had first seen it.

I believe that the primary(220v side) is set into oscillation via the cap across the switch. Not just singular pulses. Teets doesnt acknowledge that the cap is there for that reason, but along the way, that is what I can assume. And the diode/resistor combo does do as I have suggested. ;]

It may be flawed as to exactness of the circuit as we see it. he mentioned that a zener diode is in place. But now Tito wont even comment. He has said just to forget it. So I feel that there may be some relevance to the circuit, not just an embarrassing moment for him as an amateur circuit.

He doesnt like that I show the circuit. Hasnt replied since the last showing. So again, I assume that it may be what he started with and got him at a giving moment.
I wish he would just divulge any critical info on it so we can have something from ALL that he GAVE us, and we can begin there.

As for your test. Well using a meter is what was requested. But being that you seem to claim that its not really proper, the test is a bit tricky. ;]

Waiting for your briefing. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 29, 2011, 04:26:04 AM

ok :D

mags seing it right and seing some gold :)

but as i said this is my elementary start in ou world, i believe yes there are errors there but i think we can edit and make some improvements there. just make your fire extinguisher ready ;) :D

sorry everyone i'm very busy nowadays.

there is no actually some especial in this diagram ok , this is obsolete not a good diagram. :)

What is important is that by now we should be knowledgeable in caps already if we really want to see real power ok?

bye be careful :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 29, 2011, 08:47:19 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 29, 2011, 04:26:04 AM
ok :D

mags seing it right and seing some gold :)

but as i said this is my elementary start in ou world, i believe yes there are errors there but i think we can edit and make some improvements there. just make your fire extinguisher ready ;) :D

sorry everyone i'm very busy nowadays.

there is no actually some especial in this diagram ok , this is obsolete not a good diagram. :)

What is important is that by now we should be knowledgeable in caps already if we really want to see real power ok?

bye be careful :)

If the drawing is not correct, why not post the right drawing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on March 29, 2011, 09:10:59 PM

Wow. I have been preparing this for several days now (with a very long post) going through several levels of logic, etc., and now realize I should not post this the way it is and risk being misunderstood or even opening up a pretty crazy Pandoras' box.

If you think real carefully on those three questions, especially #2 and what I am specifically asking, it really reaches so far that I am not prepared to put it into words before I have the actual evidence through a proper experimental process.

So I decided to just put up the following animation without any comment at this time. If guys want to mull this over, please do, otherwise please use your time better on the bench.

Anyways, here is an animation, crude and slow so you can see what I think is happening in the coil.

wattsup

PS: In case the file is too big for this forum, I put a copy here;
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/coil-pulse1/coil-pulse-anim1.gif

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 29, 2011, 09:46:02 PM

hey Watts

I will retink my answers on this. ;]

Teets

Hey, well Im glad you are cool with it now. No big thing. I dont think anyone gets what i see anyways. ;] Seems thats the way it is in this business.

Think about this teets.. Lets say you dont want to tell particularly how its suppose to be. And just leave it at that, and nobody gets it.
I can see that you are content that we dont know. Its easy to see.

Now what if I had really gotten the water idea and figured it out in a split second as to how to do it. Would you have been upset? ;)

So what is the difference? ;) Would you be happy if anyone had taken your clues and produced a working unit and then they shared with the world?

Well its good you have come around. You are what makes this thread what it is. Its all you pal. Do with it as you please.

With your guidance, maybe others wont need a fire extinguisher as they would have gotten the proper experienced knowledge to do it right the first time. ;)

You do what you feel best. Im working on some things that may just have a lot of merit. And as I go, I share it. Im a poet! ;D

Its not all on you teets. There are others that know these things.

It is an interesting circuit you have there though. Ill have to give it another go, as I have a better understanding now. As for the diodes, I will try zeners there, just for giggles. What was it 3v or more? ;)

See ya around Teets. :-*

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 30, 2011, 05:01:12 AM

I wonder if that 3V zener was between a charged cap and a power source ...
Would it keep voltage of capacitor above battery voltage ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on March 30, 2011, 07:38:21 AM

Hi guys!

I just discovered what @tito has been trying to explain all this time with his words game.

He was trying to build an @imhotep circuit and make it self run but needed help to accomplish it.
He posted his idea saying that it needed an improvement (meaning it does not work but with the forum's help it may work).

People took it literally that he knew and did not want to share.
He posted a short explanation but nobody listened and continued thinking that he has something.

It seems that that amused him and began the game that I know and you dont.

His short explanation about the posted circuit is here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8841.msg231073#msg231073

Taking that into account. Let us begin from there and build something useful as a group.

Did you understand?
Did you checked the link and its videos?

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 30, 2011, 12:58:27 PM

Tito circuit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUdrEhFxOM0 :D

IMHO it's not OU but can extend battery life many times

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on March 30, 2011, 11:38:29 PM

Quote from: forest on March 30, 2011, 12:58:27 PM
Tito circuit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUdrEhFxOM0 :D

IMHO it's not OU but can extend battery life many times

Is it Tito's circuit or did Tito get it from this guy. I'm not sure when Tito posted it but the date of the video goes back a few years.
This guy also explains the reason for having the diode and cap in the circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 30, 2011, 11:56:34 PM

Well I remember one thing when I tested titos circuit, when I put a very tiny ceramic cap across the relay switch, the contacts burned harder. Something was happening there but I wasnt sure what. And the vid is a bit different as it doesnt include the resistor. Teets, whats the resistor do? Was it as I said?
=]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on April 01, 2011, 01:23:35 PM

Quote
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/coil-pulse1/coil-pulse-anim1.gif

Regarding posted Reply #1101,

Hadn't there ought to be a high-enough voltage capacitor paralleled with the coil to store a charge for spark gap shorting to the battery?

(I looked and saw that something might be missing. Otherwise, the circuit is simple and straightforward.)

--Lee

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 01, 2011, 08:21:34 PM

I agree, he won't get any spark across that switch with only the charge that is stored up in the inductor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on April 02, 2011, 12:26:52 AM

Hey All

Not to step on any toes or detract from all the hard work going on here I'd like to point out the following from the Master himself...from patent 512340

1. A coil for electric apparatus the adjacent convolutions of which form parts of the circuit between which threre exists a potential difference sufficient to secure in the coil a capacity capable of neutralizing its self-induction, as hereinbefore described.

2. A coil composed of contiguous or adjacent insulated conductors electcally connected in series and having a potential difference of such value as to give to the coil as a whole, a capacity sufficient to neutralize its self-induction, as set forth.

NIKOLA TESLA.

So...can the configuration of a coil affect a circuit? How many coil configurations are there? Wattsup pointed to a CT (Center Tapped) coil so why not any kind of coil that might work here.

Edit: link to pancake coil from patent 512340 http://www.google.com/patents?id=baRZAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA43&dq=tesla+512340&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false

If we can pulse a pancake coil from a battery and with the coil's capacity return it to the source, can we gain in IP vs OP?

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on April 03, 2011, 11:58:49 AM

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on April 01, 2011, 01:23:35 PM
Regarding posted Reply #1101,
Hadn't there ought to be a high-enough voltage capacitor paralleled with the coil to store a charge for spark gap shorting to the battery?
(I looked and saw that something might be missing. Otherwise, the circuit is simple and straightforward.) --Lee

Quote from: MrMag on April 01, 2011, 08:21:34 PM
I agree, he won't get any spark across that switch with only the charge that is stored up in the inductor.

That is just to show what is happening inside the coil in slow motion. All that movement would take but a millisecond. What I wanted to show is the action that you see on the scope, the first rise, then the gradual slope resonance, then the negative side discharge. You see it on the scope and I wanted to show it on an animation.

When the coil is open, you have twice as much positive potential in the coil then when it is closed. The negative pushes the positive back into the coil giving the famous kick (waveform flash) that has guys scratching their heads for so long. When the coil opens again the positive now pushes out the negative as the spark onto the negative of the feed supply.

Don't confuse this with a spark gap on a high voltage line. Just think of the coil having high inductance. It could also have capacitors, etc., as I am showing below as an example.

The first half of the coil (left half) always stays positive. The second half of the coil (right half) starts positive biased, then gets hit by the negative. I will have to explain this many times. The negative cannot go past the half way point. While it gets there, it is pushing the positive back into the first half and that gives you the kick. When the coil opens, that inductive discharge is the positive rushing to reclaim the complete coil thus pushing back to the end of the coil while pushing out the negative potential. That is the field collapse we all imagine. By the way, there is no field collapse. The field is always released. Fields are not trained dogs that obey to the first whistle. Once their reason for sticking around is gone, they leave also. A field for a coil is like a flame for a fire. The flame never goes back into the fire. Once it's out, it goes back to the Ether where is first originated as elections around the atoms of the mass. lol

The only part of the coil that is really switching from positive to negative is the second half. This is only relevant when pulsing a coil with both sides of the coil in the circuit. It does not apply to pulsing an open ended coil. This may put some more ideas for TK designs.

In the TK glass unit, there is a small coil with two other coils, one on each end wound over it. If you put a positive to a center tap and pulse the negative of the two ends together, the above same logic will mean the two outer quarters are changing from positive to negative. Hence his two over coils one at each end. (See OC1 and OC2 at A below)

Now if you use this half coil static / half coil dynamic into further practice, you can then make what I would call "tri-coils". (See C and D variations with same direct over coil (C) and perpendicular overcoil (D).

A tri-coil is really two coils with half half bifilar wound on one layer. This means let's say 20 winds of one wire, then continue with that wire and a new wire for 20 winds at which point the first coil leaves and the second coil now continues for 20 turns. This will give you half/bi-halves/half or A20(AB20)B20. A tri-coil of two coils. You then wind the secondary (OC1) over the bifilar area.

This may give some of you guys a push to get out of the simple coil wind method and start using this method to increase your output and provide better coupling potentials without the cross bottlenecks that standard coil over coil have to fight against to produce the outputs that you presently see.

Then there is how to use this logic in winding toroidal coils. The idea is always the same. Use the first half of the coil for biasing and the second half of the coil for coupling transfer. The first half would be the outer layer of a two layer discharge coil. The pulsed side would always be the end that is closest to the core. I am convinced that guys that play with the Joule Thief will get higher OU with this type of logic. This also applies to toroidal winds of TPUs, and more. A ring of 2 1/4 turns will have one static turn and one dynamic turn with a little overlap, so you are always better off with the pulsed half to be against the coupling line.

The notion that when you pulse a coil, the pulse travels across the coil windings with equal effect is impossible. The main effect will be on the first half of the end that is pulsed and die off through the second half. Yes you will still get a scope reading on the second half but the dynamic movement will mainly happen on the half that is pulsed.

I am also putting this information up on my new forum that I made recently at etherimpressDOTcom. It is freshly started and is designed for mostly builders that need a quiet place to store their information. The site is fully viewable for guests so there is no favoritism in that regard. It is just that I do not think there will be hundreds of members. I needed to put my own works and theories, etc., all in one place and am offering a place to those that need it.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 03, 2011, 06:51:03 PM

Are you willing to share what results you have achieved with your coils. The only concern or question that I have is are you sure that the inductor is charged from left to right (or right to left) and not gradually charging up as a whole. I was wondering, why not just wind a half a coil and use a resister for the second half. If what you are saying is true, you are really using only half of the inductor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 04, 2011, 05:46:43 AM

wow! not bad :)

Always note: use input then the effect of the input which is the output then join them together then flushes them all back to the source ok its amazing. :)

it'll turn into self charging!!!

auto alternator obsolete !
auto alternator obsolete !
auto alternator obsolete !
:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 04, 2011, 07:46:21 AM

Tito
I wonder now if we could use the same method with AC current.
Where is backEMF with AC so we could route it as output ;D ?
Am I right ? I think Tesla knew. I saw once his statement in article from thirthies.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 05, 2011, 05:49:56 AM

Quote from: forest on April 04, 2011, 07:46:21 AM
Tito
I wonder now if we could use the same method with AC current.
Where is backEMF with AC so we could route it as output ;D ?
Am I right ? I think Tesla knew. I saw once his statement in article from thirthies.

hmmmmm, i cannot make a comment on that its sow sensitive ;)

When tesla discover a slight increase, i believe he really worked it out very seriously, cause that is the main reason why he can able to make amplify a very small energy ok? ;)

And that is really the reason why he made the wardenclyffe tower 8)
The wardenclyffe tower was made to make AC in the air, in that sense all we need then is just an antenna and an amplifier, and i believe Tariel Kapanadze, Moray rediscovered the secret of expanding coil technique.

When his tower was destroyed, radio stations are existing at that time, thats why his tower become not important anymore, he can able to get and amplify and able to power up his E-car remember?.

In the first place his tower was told as not his real intention right? it has a double action effect, see how clever he is. :)

note:
Tesla made his amplifier just using simple materials and able to have a real working free energy to power up his car.ok
WE!!!!! are very lucky these days co'z we!!!! have lots of amazing tools and available ready made and ready to use electronic components and materials!!! wow!!!!!!

You know what? if we try to imagine in the days of tesla having only limited materials, thats why i really admire tesla because of his creativity and cleverness, as compared today. WE ARE VERY LAZY!!! SORRY! ;D

as i was told you before this is the starting point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnJFonvzr1E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y_EotqAn1M&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fuw2V0COEY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYysBEwA6w&feature=fvwrel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcCLIwlbhLc&feature=related
Goodluck everyone and God bless :)
:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cherryman on April 05, 2011, 06:27:28 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 05, 2011, 05:49:56 AM
hmmmmm, i cannot make a comment on that its sow sensitive ;)

When tesla discover a slight increase, i believe he really worked it out very seriously, cause that is the main reason why he can able to make amplify a very small energy ok? ;)

Amplification:

QuoteCrystodyne

In the early 1920s Russia, devastated by civil war, Oleg Losev was experimenting with applying voltage biases to various kinds of crystals for manufacture of radio detectors. The result was astonishing - with a zincyte (zinc oxide) crystal he gained amplification.[93][94] This was negative resistance phenomenon, decades before the tunnel diode. After the first experiments, he built regenerative and superheterodyne receivers, and even transmitters. However, this discovery was not supported by authorities and soon forgotten and no device was produced in mass quantity beyond a few examples for research. Crystodyne was produced in primitive conditions; it can be made in a rural forge - unlike vacuum tubes and modern semiconductor devices.

If you Google this subject you get some interesting reports.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 05, 2011, 06:33:29 AM

Quote from: Cherryman on April 05, 2011, 06:27:28 AM
Amplification:

If you Google this subject you get some interesting reports.

SEE, I TOLD YOU ;)
CONCENTRATE ON IT THE SECRET IS ON THIS ONE.

AND I AM TELLING YOU THERE ARE SERIOUS KILLERS. :o
:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on April 05, 2011, 09:00:40 AM

Tito,
Quote:
AND I AM TELLING YOU THERE ARE SERIOUS KILLERS.
:o
----------------------------------------
Tito
What ?
Bad guys?

Volts?
What.................?

Chet
PS
You seem Different? Almost Happy??
Nice!![I like It]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MasterPlaster on April 05, 2011, 02:12:59 PM

Killer amplifiers ofcourse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs9eiZTfF0U&feature=related

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 05, 2011, 08:56:32 PM

Quote from: MasterPlaster on April 05, 2011, 02:12:59 PM
Killer amplifiers ofcourse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs9eiZTfF0U&feature=related

hey Teets!!!

Ya got 80000 + reads here and no working designs. ??? ??? ???
but you do have a nice collection of youtube vids. Some have good music too. ;)

Igniter has 33000 reads and a working design. Thats how things get done. ;D Project no. 2 is on the way. ;) yup

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 06, 2011, 11:37:09 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 05, 2011, 08:56:32 PM
hey Teets!!!

Ya got 80000 + reads here and no working designs. ??? ??? ???
but you do have a nice collection of youtube vids. Some have good music too. ;)

Igniter has 33000 reads and a working design. Thats how things get done. ;D Project no. 2 is on the way. ;) yup

Mags

Wow ! That's good you deserve that bro. continue the good work, very proud of you, congratulation!. :)

I believe, 1, 2, 3 ..... of these more than 80k + readers have their working design, they are just hesiting or shy to reveal it ;)

:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 07, 2011, 12:55:37 AM

Hi everyone

i just notice something and i want to share it to all of you.

This could be use as an anti gravity if place it downward and access it 60hz. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs9eiZTfF0U&feature=related

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 07, 2011, 07:47:35 AM

Tito, I thought you were done posting.
The only thing you want to share is junk.
If you do not want to share anything usefull, don't bother posting anything at all.
Stop wasting our time

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 08, 2011, 05:14:28 AM

Quote from: MrMag on April 07, 2011, 07:47:35 AM
Tito, I thought you were done posting.
The only thing you want to share is junk.
If you do not want to share anything usefull, don't bother posting anything at all.
Stop wasting our time

ohhh :o sorry bro its a bad joke.
peace bro ;)

may you rest in peace :D joke ;)

bye :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on April 08, 2011, 08:13:05 AM

Hey BRO!!!!

Put down your Bankbook,and pick up the "Big Book"!

It takes Courage!!
"Courage springs forth from Love!"
"Hate springs forth from Fear!"

Make sure your on the right side of all that......................

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 08, 2011, 12:27:52 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 08, 2011, 05:14:28 AM
ohhh :o sorry bro its a bad joke.
peace bro ;)

may you rest in peace :D joke ;)

bye :)

How Christian of you. That's not even close to a joke.

Why don't you just go live in your little self centered world and leave the rest of us alone.
We want a better life for everyone not just our family but everyone.
If you don't want to share your discovery, we don't need you to share your comments either.
Go away like you said you were going to do 20 times already.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 10, 2011, 01:32:28 AM

Quote from: MrMag on April 08, 2011, 12:27:52 PM
How Christian of you. That's not even close to a joke.

Why don't you just go live in your little self centered world and leave the rest of us alone.
We want a better life for everyone not just our family but everyone.
If you don't want to share your discovery, we don't need you to share your comments either.
Go away like you said you were going to do 20 times already.

:-\
whats the matter with you!!!!
i think its you who must go away. i'm making peace with everyone! >:(

Want this attitude again? => ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on April 10, 2011, 02:34:42 AM

Tito:

Come on man, get real. You have teased us all with this great idea, and it may indeed be great, but this is an open source forum and we do not like the old "I told you this much, figure the rest out on your own" approach.

There are a lot of smart guys here, MrMags is but one of them. IF you have something, then share it, if not and you ALMOST have it, share that too and the smart guys on here will help you to complete it.

This is the way it works on here. I have learned a lot from the smart guys on here that decided to share their info even though I was too far behind the curve. I am better off for it. MrMags was one of these guys that shared freely. I now own an oscilloscope because of his advice. We that share just do not like to be teased is all. It is not personal.

If I said "I have an OU circuit, now you figure it out" this would not go over well on here. Either show it, and share it and explain it, or do not make such claims. It is as simple as that.

Again, there is nothing personal going on here, just a bunch of smart guys looking to build or replicate a great idea.

Bill

PS I am NOT one of the smart guys, but I am learning.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 10, 2011, 02:46:37 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 10, 2011, 01:32:28 AM
:-\
whats the matter with you!!!!
i think its you who must go away. i'm making peace with everyone! >:(

Want this attitude again? => ;D

If you want to make peace, all you have to do is share. That's all that we want. Like Bill said, I, and probably everyone else don't have much
patience for someone who makes claims but are unwilling to share. Why would you even be here if you don't want to share.

I'll stop there, Bill puts it a lot nicer then I do. Thanks Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 10, 2011, 06:01:57 AM

So sorry guys :(

i thought i had shared a lot already, only not the way you want, i believe i have open some eyes, for me i don't tease anyone, that is just my way of sharing.

FE is all i have now sorry. >:(

if i give a detail then i believe nothing change, so its all up to how you get it and how much to come up.

sorry guys. :(

ok i'll stop if that is what you want.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 10, 2011, 06:04:00 AM

BYE :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on April 10, 2011, 06:08:13 AM

I expected no more, and was not surprised at all at this. IF indeed you really had something, this would not be the outcome. Once again I say that, if you were close, please employ the think tank that is the Overunity forum to help you. If you had nothing to begin with, well then, that is what it is.

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 10, 2011, 06:17:37 AM

Quote from: Pirate88179 on April 10, 2011, 06:08:13 AM
I expected no more, and was not surprised at all at this. IF indeed you really had something, this would not be the outcome. Once again I say that, if you were close, please employ the think tank that is the Overunity forum to help you. If you had nothing to begin with, well then, that is what it is.

Bill

Fine no problem ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on April 10, 2011, 06:33:18 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 10, 2011, 06:17:37 AM
Fine no problem ;)

Tito:

What does this mean? Do you need help in finalizing your device? Do you just not want to share? Come on man, we are all adults here and good people as well. I mean you no ill will and I am sure the others do not as well. Just try to look at it from our side for a moment.

Plenty of folks have come close to OU and, I am telling you that there are so many smart guys here with differing backgrounds that they can help you complete this if this is the case. Do not feel embarrassed about this. Your idea might just lead to the breakthrough we are all looking for. If you have it done and will not share...then that is up to you and I can't help you with that.

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on April 10, 2011, 07:20:30 AM

@ALL
Doing the impossible will be the topic
here

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10595.msg281080#new

And Here

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=02b7d77ded498f5d1675a165a0ac4156&topic=793.msg12899;topicseen

By EM Devices, A consummate professional !!

Expect great things!!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 14, 2011, 10:53:36 PM

Quote from: Pirate88179 on April 10, 2011, 06:33:18 AM
Tito:

What does this mean? Do you need help in finalizing your device? Do you just not want to share? Come on man, we are all adults here and good people as well. I mean you no ill will and I am sure the others do not as well. Just try to look at it from our side for a moment.

Plenty of folks have come close to OU and, I am telling you that there are so many smart guys here with differing backgrounds that they can help you complete this if this is the case. Do not feel embarrassed about this. Your idea might just lead to the breakthrough we are all looking for. If you have it done and will not share...then that is up to you and I can't help you with that.

Bill

Hi sir :)

I am actually telling the truth but only not complete.

I actually rediscover what tesla meant in colorado spring, i have actually made a success in amplifying a small energy. and that's no joke.

i think i just need to make money first before i share what i discovered.

The real thing in his E-car!

please don't be mad at me at least i'm telling the truth and i'm transparent.

and behind that i have made it more better because in our days today we have a lot of ready made tools to control it better.

The secret is really tricky, coz it is very open but we cannot notice it right away.

Try to notice the igniter and ozone patent and read the colorado spring notes. those are the beginning of my reading and i want to thank the Lord for giving me that discovery.

note: There's no really need for spark gap, it is fixed

Ps. i want to appologized for anyone when i'm laughing on their work, sorry everyone.

Thank you and goodluck and goodbye
:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: eisnad karm on April 14, 2011, 11:28:49 PM

another one bites the dust. We can give this one the 2011 Mylow encouragement award. It comes to put up and shut up time off they go. At best it sounds like he had only a theory.....and it could have brought money to him if he could demonstrate it.
Sadly goes in the category "delusional"
Always happy to be proven wrong and withdraw my opinion.
Kind Regards
Karm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on April 15, 2011, 12:31:56 AM

Good to see you again Mark.

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 15, 2011, 01:07:25 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 14, 2011, 10:53:36 PM
Hi sir :)

I am actually telling the truth but only not complete.

I actually rediscover what tesla meant in colorado spring, i have actually made a success in amplifying a small energy. and that's no joke.

i think i just need to make money first before i share what i discovered.

The real thing in his E-car!

please don't be mad at me at least i'm telling the truth and i'm transparent.

and behind that i have made it more better because in our days today we have a lot of ready made tools to control it better.

The secret is really tricky, coz it is very open but we cannot notice it right away.

Try to notice the igniter and ozone patent and read the colorado spring notes. those are the beginning of my reading and i want to thank the Lord for giving me that discovery.

note: There's no really need for spark gap, it is fixed

Ps. i want to appologized for anyone when i'm laughing on their work, sorry everyone.

Thank you and goodluck and goodbye
:)

Tito

Can you post just what page numbers from colorado notes ? Or in other words : how did you filter out not related info from colorado notes ? did you replicated each Tesla experiment yourself and that WOW even happened during one of them?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MasterPlaster on April 15, 2011, 05:51:08 AM

OK Tito, how much money do you want?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 15, 2011, 07:19:45 AM

Quote from: eisnad karm on April 14, 2011, 11:28:49 PM
another one bites the dust. We can give this one the 2011 Mylow encouragement award. It comes to put up and shut up time off they go. At best it sounds like he had only a theory.....and it could have brought money to him if he could demonstrate it.
Sadly goes in the category "delusional"
Always happy to be proven wrong and withdraw my opinion.
Kind Regards
Karm

I understand you bro, but as i said i'm telling the truth, and by telling this you will have an idea that it is true, and it is true, theres really a simple way of amplifying a very small energy.

whose that mylow! they always say that, i don't know actually the story of mylow, please tell me, what did he do, i always see his name here.

Hi master plaster
thanx for your money, but i don't want to gamble in this way, i'm using OU just for personal use only. This way i can make money safely, ha!ha!ha! :)

And i am here just to see if somebody is discovering it ok ;)

but as of now as what i see, maybe tariel, SM, and some russian have it.

@ mark dansie
you know man, i am not forcing you to believe me, i gave a lot of pointers here to study with, for you to discover it also. now if you don't believe, just make the bedini proj ok? :D

I DON'T CARE!!!!!!

@ ALL
I'M ALWAYS SAYING AND REPEATING THIS AGAIN: DO YOU THINK TESLA SPEND A LOT OF MONEY BUILDING THE MAGNIFYING TRANSMITTER WITHOUT A POSITIVE RESULT!

IN THE FIRST PLACE: WHAT TESLA IS HIDING PLAN IS TO POWER THE WORLD USING ONLY ANTENNA RIGHT AND THAT IS JUST A COMMON SENSE RIGHT?

NOW!!! IT WAS DESTROYED BUT HE'S STILL MADE HIS E-CAR RUN USING ONLY ANTENNA, THAT IS BECAUSE IN THAT TIME RADIO STATION SIGNALS BECOME POPULAR AND THEY ARE DISTURBING THE AIR . 8)

NOW! WHY USE SIGNAL IF THERE IS BATTERY? WE CAN USE IT AS A BUFFER RIGHt. THATS IT!

NOW!!!!!! DON'T BELIEVE ME!!!!!! JUST BELIEVE TESLA RIGHT!!!!!

AS I'M SAYING THIS AND AS OF YOU READING THIS, THEN YOU WILL HAVE NOW AN IDEA THAT WHAT I'M SAYING IS TRUE OK!?
:)

IS MILO DELICIOUS? :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on April 15, 2011, 07:39:25 AM

@ALL

I don't know why you guys keep on breathing down @Titos' neck, trying to figure things out.

Just look at what guys are doing now. ONE PRIMARY TO ONE SECONDARY on a toroid or on a core. Produce a strong enough pulse on the primary and gather up the secondary to send back to source as a loop. But it does not work for OU. Even the Joule Thief guys are making the same MISTAKE. One toroid only will not cut it.

It is the configuration and not the lack of reaching any resonance mode. Instead of using one toroid, USE TWO, THREE or MORE toroids with the primaries either in series or parallel. With the secondaries then in parallel you will have more amperage output.

If your car runs badly with only one tire, you put four tires and bingo you are on a roll. Even an electric motor has more then one winding to run.

The Primary is usually the fattest wire having the least resistance. Right or wrong. So putting two or more Primaries in series will not change the resistance to any great level permitting the input pulse to hit several primaries with one pulse.

Some will then say if you put four primaries in series, each one will only be able to transfer 25% of the impulse to the secondary. But what if this is wrong. What if each primary can transfer 35% or more. That's one place to start right there.

But instead, guys are adamant that IT MUST WORK WITH ONLY ONE TOROID OR ONE CORE.

The other thing is how to accumulate the secondary without having the same secondary create a backlog in the primary. There you need a proper choice of tank capacitors. Not to low an mF to backlog quickly, but not to high an mF to have a fast enough discharge back to source.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 15, 2011, 08:00:11 AM

YOU'RE RIGHT SIR! :)

@ ALL

DON'T BREATH ON MY NECK CO'Z YOU ALMOST KISSING ME :D AND SOMEBODY IS BAD BREATH! >:(

JUST THINK AND THINK DON'T PUNISH YOUR SELF FIGURING WHAT I'M TALKING. I JUST SAID THAT FOR YOU TO HAVE AN IDEA AND ENCOURAGEMENT OK ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 15, 2011, 09:49:12 AM

I'm still fighting with the problem of choosing : what is better ? : many primaries in series or many primaries in parallel ? Which would work ?
???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on April 15, 2011, 12:06:20 PM

Quote from: forest on April 15, 2011, 09:49:12 AM
I'm still fighting with the problem of choosing : what is better ? : many primaries in series or many primaries in parallel ? Which would work ?
???

That will always depend on what you are using to pulse and what type of energies are involved. If you are pulsing 1 amp at 12 volts, I would consider series primaries because the impulse will not be that reactive in a parallel primary set-up. But this could be wrong again depending on the frequencies. Anything above 500khz and the pulsing will probably be to fast to provide a pulse with the full 1amp/12volt force.

But if you are pulsing 10 amps at 100 volts, then you would consider having the primaries in parallel so all have the equal opportunity to break down the impulse into the usable secondaries.

Everything is relative to feed source type, the pulse frequency, the coils approximate ratings, etc.

But in the high frequency pulsing at 1 volts or in mV levels we see mostly on the forum, primaries in series would be the best set-up.

I think what I am trying to explain is for guys to get out of the single core doldrums. Single core with two or more coils will have a limit to the amount of inter mutual transfer that can be accomplished because you still will have a cancellation factor to overcome. The more winds, the more cancellation points you can have. Yes you can try and find the magic mix of coil numbers, turns, wire gauge, coil positions on toroid, etc., but if you saw my posts in the previous pages, a coil has limits in the way it will energize and impart energy. Above a certain limit, it will not be effective enough and you will just be wasting energy for nothing.

The idea is to find the sweet spot of the coil, then make more coils that run on that sweet spot all together.

Look at modern day inverters and count how many transistors there are to do the switching. They cut the 12vdc high amp feed into parts, amplify or step-up each part and put them back together to give your output.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 15, 2011, 12:24:24 PM

Read these 2 pdfs. the first describes how a transformer really works, and the second will show how to multiply magnetic fields in the cores, and will show how to make a transformer, that the drawing from the secondary will not kill primary oscillation. This is key.
Im working on some of these right now.

If using toroid cores, probably better to use ones that are for transformer actions vs choke cores. I have read that most high end car and home amps have very high quality cores in their power supplies.

Both papers are a great read and compliment each other.

Mags

Edited to load the pdfs I had forgot earlier.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 15, 2011, 12:39:42 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 15, 2011, 08:00:11 AM
YOU'RE RIGHT SIR! :)

@ ALL

DON'T BREATH ON MY NECK CO'Z YOU ALMOST KISSING ME :D AND SOMEBODY IS BAD BREATH! >:(

JUST THINK AND THINK DON'T PUNISH YOUR SELF FIGURING WHAT I'M TALKING. I JUST SAID THAT FOR YOU TO HAVE AN IDEA AND ENCOURAGEMENT OK ;)

I thought you said goodbye. Why are you hear if you do not want to share. Either share or leave for good. We don't need your childish remarks.
What kind of encouragement are you giving us, your comment that you have OU for yourself and nobody else. That's not encouragement, that's laughing in our faces. You are a selfish and ignorant person. You've heard the saying," What goes around, comes around". You'll get yours.

You try to come across as though you are smarter then the rest of us. You are another Mylow. Do you know who Mylow is? He is a person who told everyone that he had discovered something. People dropped what they were doing to replicate his device only to find out that he was a fake. Are you a fake Tito?

Your riddles mean nothing. You comments are all over the place. If you want to be known as a great man who shared with the world or a greedy person who laughed at us because he had something that he did not share with anyone.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 15, 2011, 01:15:05 PM

Quote from: wattsup on April 15, 2011, 12:06:20 PM
That will always depend on what you are using to pulse and what type of energies are involved. If you are pulsing 1 amp at 12 volts, I would consider series primaries because the impulse will not be that reactive in a parallel primary set-up. But this could be wrong again depending on the frequencies. Anything above 500khz and the pulsing will probably be to fast to provide a pulse with the full 1amp/12volt force.

But if you are pulsing 10 amps at 100 volts, then you would consider having the primaries in parallel so all have the equal opportunity to break down the impulse into the usable secondaries.

Everything is relative to feed source type, the pulse frequency, the coils approximate ratings, etc.

But in the high frequency pulsing at 1 volts or in mV levels we see mostly on the forum, primaries in series would be the best set-up.

I think what I am trying to explain is for guys to get out of the single core doldrums. Single core with two or more coils will have a limit to the amount of inter mutual transfer that can be accomplished because you still will have a cancellation factor to overcome. The more winds, the more cancellation points you can have. Yes you can try and find the magic mix of coil numbers, turns, wire gauge, coil positions on toroid, etc., but if you saw my posts in the previous pages, a coil has limits in the way it will energize and impart energy. Above a certain limit, it will not be effective enough and you will just be wasting energy for nothing.

The idea is to find the sweet spot of the coil, then make more coils that run on that sweet spot all together.

Look at modern day inverters and count how many transistors there are to do the switching. They cut the 12vdc high amp feed into parts, amplify or step-up each part and put them back together to give your output.

wattsup

wattsup

I will be following my plan to 2kW unit. First of course much smaller output, from really dead 35Ah 12V car battery which is able to light 5W bulb for a minute or less after long charging. Really a tough check. If I could light any bulb from this battery for extended period using inductor flywheel effect charging capacitor and discharging back to battery via the bulb then I will be able to confirm Tito schematic.
Sure, I will be using 3 primaries and 3 secondaries - in parallel each one using own bridge rectifier.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 15, 2011, 01:19:37 PM

Sorry forgot the pdfs in above post.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 15, 2011, 09:18:48 PM

Quote from: MrMag on April 15, 2011, 12:39:42 PM
I thought you said goodbye. Why are you hear if you do not want to share. Either share or leave for good. We don't need your childish remarks.
What kind of encouragement are you giving us, your comment that you have OU for yourself and nobody else. That's not encouragement, that's laughing in our faces. You are a selfish and ignorant person. You've heard the saying," What goes around, comes around". You'll get yours.

You try to come across as though you are smarter then the rest of us. You are another Mylow. Do you know who Mylow is? He is a person who told everyone that he had discovered something. People dropped what they were doing to replicate his device only to find out that he was a fake. Are you a fake Tito?

Your riddles mean nothing. You comments are all over the place. If you want to be known as a great man who shared with the world or a greedy person who laughed at us because he had something that he did not share with anyone.

oh come on, please don't be mad :(

Can't you see that sir wattsup is already revealing very vital points, try to read his posts.
and he is already crossing and crossing to the real thing :).

i'm real and i said don't believe me but tesla co'z who am i for you to believe right.

do you know that i am the most friendly person in the world, you just don't know me for real ok :)

So you don't want me write anything anymore? don't you know that sometimes because of nonsense post, a very vital points is written? did you not notice that huh ???
did you not learn in this page? ;)

:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on April 16, 2011, 12:08:29 AM

@Magluvin

Regarding the first pdf, I read it and this paragraph sums it up well.

QUOTE
5. Conclusion
This paper shows that the emf generated in the secondary of a transformer is the result of flux-lines that begin outside the core and "cut" the secondary on their journey to engage the core. This represents a new wrinkle to classical field theory which has traditionally asserted that no flux activity exists outside of an ideal core.
UNQUOTE

Well this hits my home plate so well. But it just slides right past the obvious that he does not discuss because he is so concentrated on giving the coil the reason for the field, but it is very well put together and I thank you for it.

If you want to read about my own theory, I may as well mention it since I know eventually it will get out. I put it here and updates will be there also;

http://etherimpress.com/forum/index.php?topic=6.msg17#msg17

I think this theory could help put a new face on OU research and maybe give the endeavor more solid basis to grab hold of in terms of putting ether on the bench with our everyday works instead of in our back pockets.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 16, 2011, 01:31:09 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 15, 2011, 09:18:48 PM
oh come on, please don't be mad :(

Can't you see that sir wattsup is already revealing very vital points, try to read his posts.
and he is already crossing and crossing to the real thing :).

i'm real and i said don't believe me but tesla co'z who am i for you to believe right.

do you know that i am the most friendly person in the world, you just don't know me for real ok :)

So you don't want me write anything anymore? don't you know that sometimes because of nonsense post, a very vital points is written? did you not notice that huh ???
did you not learn in this page? ;)

:)

The only thing I learned on this page is this:
"thanx for your money, but i don't want to gamble in this way, i'm using OU just for personal use only. This way i can make money safely, ha!ha!ha! "

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on April 16, 2011, 09:07:08 AM

tito... pls....try sometime to calm down your ego.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 16, 2011, 12:40:59 PM

Well I thank the Lord He has given it to Tito, he lives in a country that has it harder than we in the US have it, we are pampered and spoiled, if you think about it sure things are getting tough but still not as tough as others. Our time is coming if you think that the atrocities committed in other country's will never happen here you v got your head in the sand.
Tito perfect your system then be ready to give it away when the time comes, you'll know when.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on April 16, 2011, 03:49:16 PM

Quote from: MrMag on April 16, 2011, 01:31:09 AM
The only thing I learned on this page is this:
"thanx for your money, but i don't want to gamble in this way, i'm using OU just for personal use only. This way i can make money safely, ha!ha!ha! "

@MrMag

In a way, I am unfortunately forced or inclined to believe @Tito in that putting forth OU is not for the faint of heart. You can only do up to what your own circumstances and level of courage to confront the opposing forces. If for @Tito, using his own devices to advance his own way of usage, a quiet way making no waves to attract the big fish to his shores, then I am sorrowfully inclined to accept his decision.

Not everyone has the gladiator attribute that is willing to stand in the arena and get challenged by voracious lions just looking to shred him to pieces. We live in a totally f*&ked up world where everyone is convinced they have the right to stifle, inhibit, derail and perverse everything that we hold dear to our lives.

These F*&k heads say it is a question of National Security but meanwhile, they play around with nuclear power stations that can cause the entire world so much harm. Screwed up is what it is and what they are and they try to convince us they are the normal ones. Perversity abounds

But don't worry. Soon enough it will come out. Not all of us are frail of heart. Some of us have been fighting the good fight for a long time now and are ready to move forward once we have what it takes.

So don't blame @Tito. He is only reacting in the way he knows to both preserve himself and his toys. I do not agree with him, but can only respect his own limitations.

In any case, one cannot simply blurt it out on one post or on one thread. One has to properly and quietly prepare his disclosure, in all its known facets and then put it out knowing there is nothing else left to say about it since it is all included in the disclosure. If you come out with a half disclosure, trying to keep "the key" hidden, you risk or you give the Bigs a good reason to stop you. If you disclose fully and completely, the Bigs (hmmmm or more appropriately - the Shits) will know it is pointless to run after you because all was already said and shown. This piece of advice goes to anyone else out there that has it. Either you say it all, or don't say anything. @Tito this is my advice to you also. Don't play around with fire because you may get burned. Also, if you know it and are preparing it for disclosure, don't say anything yet. Play dumb while you make your document. lol

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on April 17, 2011, 09:38:55 AM

@tito

Dont you know that the people at the top have enough power to put a detective on your back and know if what you say here about OU is true?

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MasterPlaster on April 17, 2011, 08:41:06 PM

Sorry abou cross posting but I got exited about this patent for a power amplifier

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7808124.pdf

OK Tito. you can come out now.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 17, 2011, 10:48:43 PM

Quote from: nievesoliveras on April 17, 2011, 09:38:55 AM
@tito

Dont you know that the people at the top have enough power to put a detective on your back and know if what you say here about OU is true?

Jesus

Its not a problem, coz i'm telling the truth even you can know that i'm telling the truth isn't it?. and i said that don't believe me but tesla right?
;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on April 18, 2011, 07:41:39 AM

Chicken, Shmicken!!

You want to change the world ,start with the guy in the Mirror!

How much scarier does the world have to be before you decide to share Tito!

Tito could probably make One post,from a library or university computer and change the world!

OR he could send that post to me

ChetKremens@gmail.com

And He knows I'll do it for him......................

But I've been saying that and posting My Email here for "A Year"?

Nah ,He Doesn't want to Share!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 18, 2011, 09:15:26 PM

It just shows you what kind of person he really is. Do you think that he had OU before he came to this site.
I don't think so. That means that some of the people here helped him out in finding his discovery.
So, I don't think it should be just for him. How about the others that gave him the information for him
to make the discovery. Shouldn't they also benefit?

He is a very selfish person who does not care about anyone but himself. If it was up to me, I would ban him.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 18, 2011, 09:38:16 PM

Quote from: MrMag on April 18, 2011, 09:15:26 PM
It just shows you what kind of person he really is. Do you think that he had OU before he came to this site.
I don't think so. That means that some of the people here helped him out in finding his discovery.
So, I don't think it should be just for him. How about the others that gave him the information for him
to make the discovery. Shouldn't they also benefit?

He is a very selfish person who does not care about anyone but himself. If it was up to me, I would ban him.

I think these pdfs are better here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7748.msg281925

@mr mag
its okay if they will ban me. yes i admitt, i learned a lot here but we are all studying here, there is no difference between you and me ok.

i 've done a lot of hard work, yes before i came here i don't have OU but as time goes by i've got it and i want to thank the Lord for that :-\
:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 19, 2011, 02:40:34 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 18, 2011, 09:38:16 PM
I think these pdfs are better here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7748.msg281925

@mr mag
its okay if they will ban me. yes i admitt, i learned a lot here but we are all studying here, there is no difference between you and me ok.

i 've done a lot of hard work, yes before i came here i don't have OU but as time goes by i've got it and i want to thank the Lord for that :-\
:)

No, there is a big difference between you and me. You see, I need money just like everyone else but if I would discover OU I would share it freely among the people here and all over the world. Once all the information was spread out, it would be to late for the MIB to come after me. No worries.

You have more people then the Lord to thank don't you. How about all the people here who taught you, or showed you, or pointed you in the right direction?

Maybe he gave it to you for a test. Think about it. The Lord knows how to make OU and he SHARED IT with you. So, I guess it's OK for people to share with you but you don't have to share with others. I think you disappoint him. :'( No, I know you disappoint him.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 19, 2011, 02:59:54 AM

ok! ok! ok!!!!!!!!

No! i didn't get help from others but i learned from their works.

its a coil and caps and diode only. but no more details.

if that still not okay to you then sorry.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on April 19, 2011, 09:55:46 AM

OK Schmucko, [polish for nice, confused person]

What you gonna do when you wake up one morning and turn on your Computer,
And there it is..........................

O.U. free release of info!

That day is on its way Bucky!

You can't stop it ........It comes from a higher place than you!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on April 19, 2011, 10:39:15 AM

There is a link for a 150mb download of 45 pdfs that explain everything from hho to high voltage diodes.
The problem is that you need to use torrent downloader. My machine does not allow it.

Is there somebody kind enough to download it and post it elsewhere where we the free energy community can download it?

The link:
http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Various-Free-Energy-Books-Water-Fuel-Cell-Creative-Science-Books-etc/3777e64903456848ec1c94193c221a1aa307b21fcd3e

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tenbatsu on April 19, 2011, 01:02:53 PM

I uploaded the contents of the torrent to filesonic. Let me know if you're able to access it.

http://www.filesonic.com/file/788517674

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on April 19, 2011, 01:02:58 PM

well, it is only another pack of teories without testing, very smal probability to really help anybody.
but here it is.
http://www.uloz.to/8710433/free-energy-rar (big yellow button)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 19, 2011, 01:33:30 PM

Quote from: nievesoliveras on April 19, 2011, 10:39:15 AM
There is a link for a 150mb download of 45 pdfs that explain everything from hho to high voltage diodes.
The problem is that you need to use torrent downloader. My machine does not allow it.

Is there somebody kind enough to download it and post it elsewhere where we the free energy community can download it?

The link:
http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Various-Free-Energy-Books-Water-Fuel-Cell-Creative-Science-Books-etc/3777e64903456848ec1c94193c221a1aa307b21fcd3e

Jesus

I'm downloading it now. I'll let you know when I have it.

edit: I guess I can cancel the download since others have already got it. Thanx guys :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 19, 2011, 02:09:12 PM

hey, I don't see why Tito old schematic shouldn't work
just add wattsup comments and don't expect large OU
for start 100W from a dead battery continuous is fine

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on April 19, 2011, 02:23:21 PM

when were are in posting infinite number of speculations here is another stuff:
http://www.filesonic.com/file/789464874/Alt._Sciences_E-Books_(Free_Energy,_Tesla,_Scalar,_Moray,_Dollard).rar

it also contains three books from eric dollard, the man which is on top in understanding tesla.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 19, 2011, 02:34:56 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 19, 2011, 03:15:10 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 19, 2011, 02:59:54 AM
ok! ok! ok!!!!!!!!

No! i didn't get help from others but i learned from their works.

its a coil and caps and diode only. but no more details.

if that still not okay to you then sorry.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr >:(

I can cut and paste a bunch of other peoples info too. If you think you can fool us by posting this, I'm sorry your wrong. Everything you've talked about here has nothing to do with this. Now you think we are stupid. Nice try jerk.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: e2matrix on April 19, 2011, 04:21:46 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 19, 2011, 02:59:54 AM
ok! ok! ok!!!!!!!!

No! i didn't get help from others but i learned from their works.

its a coil and caps and diode only. but no more details.

if that still not okay to you then sorry.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr >:(

The pics in your post appear to be from Creative Science or Fuelless Power. It appears some others recognize this too since the requests for their documents have followed. I'm going to assume at this point you have a basic Tesla radiant energy receiver - i.e. the large metal plate high up in the air with just diodes, caps and coil and a good ground? While I always assumed this would work I have reservations about how much power you can reasonably get from it unless you build a lot of large metal antenna's high off the ground. Around here that would probably be dangerous with all the lightning storms but it could sure give a surge of power ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: e2matrix on April 19, 2011, 04:29:23 PM

Quote from: IWD on April 19, 2011, 02:23:21 PM
when were are in posting infinite number of speculations here is another stuff:
http://www.filesonic.com/file/789464874/Alt._Sciences_E-Books_(Free_Energy,_Tesla,_Scalar,_Moray,_Dollard).rar

it also contains three books from eric dollard, the man which is on top in understanding tesla.

Since that file is over 400 Megabytes you can NOT download it unless you pay for the Premium membership. Can you upload somewhere else or split it? Chances are I've got some of this but maybe put Dollard's stuff separate or somehow split it up? TIA!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on April 19, 2011, 08:34:40 PM

Thank you
@tenbatsu, @iwd, @mrmag.

There is a problem with filesonic file storage and it is that the maximum size for a free download is 400mb.
I am downloading the 117mb free_energy.rar and it is very slow.

I will let you know if I could get it.

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 19, 2011, 10:10:03 PM

Quote from: MrMag on April 19, 2011, 03:15:10 PM
I can cut and paste a bunch of other peoples info too. If you think you can fool us by posting this, I'm sorry your wrong. Everything you've talked about here has nothing to do with this. Now you think we are stupid. Nice try jerk.

>:(
Everything i post here is wrong to you!!! >:(

I think its not anymore healthy talking to you, your more than a turkey brain moron!

do you know that it needs some energy to do that post! >:(

Your calling me a jerk! IT IS YOU WHO IS MORE THAN A JERK!!!!!!!! >:(

sir wattsup sorry but i have to leave now
Thank you for everything sir :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 19, 2011, 10:17:27 PM

Dont get mad toots. Tomorrow is another day. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 19, 2011, 10:22:38 PM

To everybody

So sorry for the unpleasant word that i learned from some turkey brain, it is not my intention to talk that way sorry. :)

now i think i mean it, GOODBYE :)

TO MRMAG
You try to buy some turkey in turkey you may find yourself there comfortable ;D
and find msmag and have toss with your mag and drink the poison of your tongue ;D

its now you turn i will not reply to you anymore you DOUBLE JERK!!! >:(
;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 19, 2011, 10:29:14 PM

I wonder how big a turkey brain is? What about an ant brain? I saw a story that the scientist tied an ant down, and anther came and cut it loose. Thats a good lil brain.

;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on April 19, 2011, 10:37:09 PM

MrMags:

Wow. Double Jerk? That sounds like a very serious accusation to me, ha ha. So, let me see if the math works. 1 Jerk=X, therefore a Double Jerk should =2X is this correct? Or, is there some loss here that is not accounted for in my equation?

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 19, 2011, 11:11:45 PM

It could be a dance the turkey jerk

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 19, 2011, 11:45:24 PM

Haha :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( now me sad like Tito guy :'( :'( :'(

Now you will never know >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( how to live with OU . k.
just a wire and diode. >:( >:( >:( to go off the grid.
Give me a break. ( or give me a real drawing)

Tito, you are a funny man. You knew I would catch you in your lie. You thought if you posted a couple of pictures that nobody can see, we would stop asking you? Do you think we are gullible to fall for that. Maybe you wanted me to catch you lie so that you could be mad and say goodbye again for the 23rd time.

I can see why you call me a turkey brain. I don't know how to have OU like the great selfish Tito. So I guess maybe my brain is too small to grasp the idea.

But come on, a double jerk? That really hurts my feelings. Nobody has ever called me a double jerk before. But then again, this is an amplification thread. ;D So I guess I should call you a quad Jerk (NO loss. We want some good amplification here). ;D

You know Tito, I don't know how they do it in the Philippines but here in North America, we try to be honest God fearing people. If we say we want to help people, we do it. We come to these kinds of energy sites to learn and SHARE ideas. I know if anyone here discovers OU, they will like to share with the world. Not just learn from everyone and then sit back and brag about it and give out false information.
I could see how proud my children would be of me if I discovered free energy and shared it with the world. I also know the look I would get from them if I did discover it and not share it. But I guess it's all about how you are brought up. Loving and sharing or greedy and selfish. I really don't know how you can honestly look your children in the eyes. I feel sorry for you Tito, you must really be lonely.

Hahaha Mags, I've heard of a circle jerk (never participated in) . A turkey jerk? That's hilarious.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 19, 2011, 11:51:47 PM

Lol I just like to make light of things at times. Just silly.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on April 20, 2011, 08:00:55 PM

Thanks everybody!
I just downloaded the .rar file. It was 123mb.

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 20, 2011, 08:11:36 PM

;D hi! ;D

@BI-PILAR JERK ;D JOKE! ;D
i'm just crossing . i just want to clarify something ok?

@everyone
Though i'm angry, you can now filter your point of study, just want to tell you that what i said is true, JUST CAPS,COILS AND DIODE. ;)

PS: Make really hardwork and studies, do it very well and always put God first in your life

:BELIEVE IT OR NOT
The real way to salvation is REPENTANCE AND ACCEPTING JESUS in your life
Goodbye and God Bless.
Happy Easter ;)
:)

Noicaro L. Otit ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on April 20, 2011, 08:46:09 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 20, 2011, 08:11:36 PM
The real way to salvation is REPENTANCE AND ACCEPTING JESUS in your life

Accepting Jesus? By dodging others?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 20, 2011, 09:07:07 PM

Quote from: Qwert on April 20, 2011, 08:46:09 PM
Accepting Jesus? By dodging others?

WHAT??????!!!!!!!!! :o :-\ :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on April 20, 2011, 09:14:44 PM

Have a happy Easter Tito :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 20, 2011, 09:17:45 PM

Quote from: TEKTRON on April 20, 2011, 09:14:44 PM
Have a happy Easter Tito :)

Thank you very much sir, thats the comment i am waiting :)

happy easter too sir ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on April 20, 2011, 11:52:23 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 20, 2011, 09:07:07 PM
WHAT??????!!!!!!!!! :o :-\ :(

Jesus didn't dodge others and doesn't recommend dodging.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 21, 2011, 01:11:29 AM

Quote from: Qwert on April 20, 2011, 11:52:23 PM
Jesus didn't dodge others and doesn't recommend dodging.

How come your accusing me of dodging ???.

You know what? here is what i learned in this world if you write something, there are two effects to the readers and thats really amazing, its like free energy it has a gain of one or more ;D

Be positive thinking bro your very wrong, that is not my intention.

ps: Do you think i will convinced you to be close to Jesus if i'm from the dark side? :)

Think!!! use your i Qwert. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on April 21, 2011, 01:37:27 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 20, 2011, 09:17:45 PM
Thank you very much sir, thats the comment i am waiting :)

happy easter too sir ;)

Tito, you make me sick with your hypocrisy and in due time the Father in heaven will vomit you out also.

I know this is an energy forum and it does us well to steer away from religious discussion but you really rankle me no end with your Jesus this and Jesus that when all the while you have no idea about Gods Son and what pleases him at all. You do well to just shut your mouth and go away as you have so often promised but then failed to do.

Why were you "waiting for a happy easter" from someone???? This is the most UN-Christlike and anti-Christian thing for anyone that truly knows their Bible which you clearly do not! I suggest that rather than talking stupid babyish comments like some halfwit 8 year old, you go away and do some research of your own considering you supposedly have all the money, free energy and time in the world. Start with the topic of Easter.

EASTER is NOT a Christian celebration and nor is it mentioned in the bible. Jesus, nor any of his Disciples ever celebrated it because it was a 100% pagan festivity Named after Eostre, the supposed 'Great Mother Goddess of the Saxons in Northern Europe. Her name was derived from the ancient word for Spring time (Eastre). With each region came variations of this - Hathor in Egypt, Aphrodite in the Meditteranian, Ashtoreth in Israel, Ishtar in Assyria, Kali in India and the list goes on and on. With Spring and the Easter celebration along with these false gods came, sex, fertility and rebirth. Where do you think the Rabbits and all those eggs fit in you moron?? Jesus wasn't handing those around at the last supper!! They were a pollution of everything he held dear.

Easter as it is celebrated today only became bastardized by the mainstream churches during the early centuries when the church leaders realized that in order to make the Bible 'appetizing' to Pagan worshippers, they would have to sell out and 'graft' the many false pagan beliefs onto the biblical account of Jesus life.

But hey.....if anyone here doesnt like what I have to say and can't handle the truth I challenge you to go read the scriptures cover to cover. You won't find any mention of Easter (or Christmas which is another pagan belief) in there.

What have you said the last few pages Tito??? "Dont believe me...believe Tesla". Well I'm telling you to hush and go read the scriptures and start living your life in accord with them.

See ya later.

E-Goose

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 21, 2011, 01:38:18 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 21, 2011, 01:11:29 AM
ps: Do you think i will convinced you to be close to Jesus if i'm from the dark side? :)

Tito

Lets look at that.
What would Jesus and Christians do if they discovered OU. I think they would share it with the world. Just think of all the children out in the world with no hydro to cook food, refrigerate it, and to power their water purifiers. Do you think that Jesus would approve of the person who releases the information to help these people. I think so. I think Jesus wants us all to help each other, don't you?

Now how about the devil. Aren't they the ones who gather up the OU devices and hide them from the world so that the big oil companies can control your life. They don't care about helping people only filling their own pockets and have a nice life for themselves.

So, I think it's simple

Jesus = Loving, helping, sharing
Devil = Hateful, selfish, greedy

Tell me Tito, where do you honestly think you stand.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 21, 2011, 02:01:17 AM

oh boy another calvary for the blind people ;D

@E-goose
I'm amazed your very knowledgeable hmmmm, but i think too much knowledge becomes moron if not in appropriate gear ;D what do i mean moron!

IN OUR DAYS TODAY MORON IF YOU ASKED SOMEBODY WHAT IS EASTER THEN A MORON WILL ANSWER THAT ITS A DAY WHEN JESUS GAVE HIS LIFE FOR A SOUL OF HUMANITY UNDERSTOOD?. NOW!!! MORON I'M CELEBRATING IT BECAUSE JESUS DID IT FOR ME AND FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE HIM! GOT IT SUPER MORON!? ;D

DON'T WORRY I'M JUST CROSSING FOR BLIND MORONS! ;D

@DOUBLE JEOPARDY ;D LOL

JESUS= LOVING, HELPING, SHARING, PATIENCE, NOT LAZY =TITO
DEVIL=HATEFUL,SELFISH,GREEDY,VERY LAZY, SAYING BAD WORDS = MRMAG

and i'm very sure where i am is standing
and also very sure where you are standing
;D

PS: Mags, which is bigger brain?, E-goose or turkey jerk?, are they similar when dancing? hahahahahah lol joke ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on April 21, 2011, 03:54:47 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 21, 2011, 01:11:29 AM
How come your accusing me of dodging ???.

Read again my post #1081, it explains.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: steve_chow on April 21, 2011, 04:45:06 AM

Hi

I am wondering, anybody ever tried to work on Mr. Tito's schematic which in page 74
(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.1095)..

Mr. Tito was saying something about not breaking dipole....
I think he is using Dead batteries bank (only potential with very low current) as a dipole, higher potential is better.........I think this the secret no body will tell...you

And circuit diagram in his schemetic very similar to follwing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUdrEhFxOM0

This is nothing new, Mr. Tesla's idea ....and Mr.D. Smith tried and many other.....
I wish I have some extra time to try this experiment...

regards

Chow

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 21, 2011, 05:27:56 AM

Quote from: steve_chow on April 21, 2011, 04:45:06 AM
Hi

I am wondering, anybody ever tried to work on Mr. Tito's schematic which in page 74
(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.1095)..

Mr. Tito was saying something about not breaking dipole....
I think he is using Dead batteries bank (only potential with very low current) as a dipole, higher potential is better.........I think this the secret no body will tell...you

And circuit diagram in his schemetic very similar to follwing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUdrEhFxOM0

This is nothing new, Mr. Tesla's idea ....and Mr.D. Smith tried and many other.....
I wish I have some extra time to try this experiment...

regards

Chow

YES! Very good comment. I'm slowly building replication of Tito schematic . I believe it is correct. As always I will try to add my modifications but in spirit of original concept.
Mark wattsup last comment, it is important. I also checked the idea of charged capacitor above source voltage - it works , it may sit that for hours consuming very little amount of power from source, and if you find a way to very quickly charge capacitor much larger above battery voltage , then you can dump excess energy back into battery and see current flowing into battery!
This may not be OU but just very efficient use of battery - charge capacitor then discharge it into the same battery ( with good ground) not allowing to completely discharge capacitor (using kind of zener diode).
I almost put it into working mode inside my mind.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on April 21, 2011, 05:52:27 AM

Quote from: TEKTRON on April 20, 2011, 09:14:44 PM
Have a happy Easter Tito :)

Holey crap Tito.. I Feel attacked too...

So let me rephrase.

I want to bless you, and all other people, in the search for the ultimate truth.

May the lord our God, bless you and your family s in this holiday of remembrance of God's son, Jesus s, sacrifice on the cross to save from us from OUR SINS and to sanctify the the words that flow on our screens. AMEN

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 21, 2011, 10:39:46 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 21, 2011, 02:01:17 AM

JESUS= LOVING, HELPING, SHARING, PATIENCE, NOT LAZY =TITO
DEVIL=HATEFUL,SELFISH,GREEDY,VERY LAZY, SAYING BAD WORDS = MRMAG

and i'm very sure where i am is standing
and also very sure where you are standing

I thought that would be your answer. But I don't agree with some of your additions to my comments. I don't think that the devil is very lazy at all. I think he is always busy. I'm not the one saying bad words. I may have called you a jerk but who is calling people morons and turkey brains. But I still feel sorry for you Tito. Just a little man who needs attention.

I guess I just don't have patience with people who tell everyone that they made a discovery and will share it then change their mind and not share. Or, as far as that goes, says he is leaving and always comes back.

I've come across people like you in the past. They will say anything just to get a little attention. There still might be one or two here that listen to your cry for attention but I think it is my time to leave, at least for a little while. Happy Easter to all, you too Tito.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 21, 2011, 02:44:26 PM

Tito, one question

If "the effect" as you said is just obtained by using coils , capacitors and diodes then explain why you said previously about configuration ?
I mean it's perfectly clear for me that we have to think about better capacitor construction,better coil like wattsup mentioned with many secondaries in parallel for example. ONE THING is unclear and potentially sink ALL THIS IDEA : if "the effect" is based on special coil and capacitor placement in space so there is an interaction between them then our hopes for recreating are rather in vain.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MasterPlaster on April 21, 2011, 04:44:21 PM

Quote from: forest on April 21, 2011, 02:44:26 PM
Tito, one question

If "the effect" as you said is just obtained by using coils , capacitors and diodes then explain why you said previously about configuration ?
I mean it's perfectly clear for me that we have to think about better capacitor construction,better coil like wattsup mentioned with many secondaries in parallel for example. ONE THING is unclear and potentially sink ALL THIS IDEA : if "the effect" is based on special coil and capacitor placement in space so there is an interaction between them then our hopes for recreating are rather in vain.

@forest LOL. Youv'e been chasing this turkey for too long! I really don't think Tito has anything to share but I am sure he is a great guy to have a drink with!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 21, 2011, 05:26:23 PM

Master

Even small droplet bore hole in rock when is falling many times. I'm trying to be as patient as Tito.
I saw some results but nothing extraordinary yet. However I believe it will come.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 21, 2011, 09:11:58 PM

Quote from: forest on April 21, 2011, 02:44:26 PM
Tito, one question

If "the effect" as you said is just obtained by using coils , capacitors and diodes then explain why you said previously about configuration ?
I mean it's perfectly clear for me that we have to think about better capacitor construction,better coil like wattsup mentioned with many secondaries in parallel for example. ONE THING is unclear and potentially sink ALL THIS IDEA : if "the effect" is based on special coil and capacitor placement in space so there is an interaction between them then our hopes for recreating are rather in vain.

Hi forest

You always have the right question thats why i cannot answer them directly ;D

Just imagine this: When power is shutdown very fast then there is a lot of energy waiting for us to use it.

This is real energy cause it can destroy electric components, imagine that if you only knew how to handle it properly.
Just a common sense as usual ;D
So therefore what is missing there is the 'RE' rephrase

Sudden off which is open circuit then the door of unlimited energy is open, its really amazing. ;D

@ those who want me leave
don't worry i'm just crossing cause its easter ;D joke

Don't worry i will leave just stop yourself talking about me! got it? ???

hey plaster i don't need your turkey cause they don't have tail ;D

@everyone
i love you all , i'm sorry for all, thank you for all.
goodbye, goodbye, goodbye count it plaster use your turkey ;D

@ qwert
I qwit ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 21, 2011, 09:34:56 PM

Quote from: TEKTRON on April 21, 2011, 05:52:27 AM

Holey crap Tito.. I Feel attacked too...

So let me rephrase.

I want to bless you, and all other people, in the search for the ultimate truth.

May the lord our God, bless you and your family s in this holiday of remembrance of God's son, Jesus s, sacrifice on the cross to save from us from OUR SINS and to sanctify the the words that flow on our screens. AMEN

Yes ;D
Those goose brain maybe they understand it now. ;D

@all
I'm so sorry for unpleasant words that i wrote, cause you really forced me to do that.

Don't worry, from now on i will just accept everything you are going to say for the sake of Christians. :)

I will just smile :)
Really mean it, goodbye :)

ps: Repent, Accept JESUS as your savior his coming is very near, read the bible, cause the punishment is lake of fire forever in hell.

Don't look at me(Tito) look on to Jesus he loves you and waits you to repent.
Remember no other way out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 21, 2011, 10:11:13 PM

Happy Easter Tito and all.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 21, 2011, 10:13:14 PM

Quote from: MrMag on April 21, 2011, 10:39:46 AM
I thought that would be your answer. But I don't agree with some of your additions to my comments. I don't think that the devil is very lazy at all. I think he is always busy. I'm not the one saying bad words. I may have called you a jerk but who is calling people morons and turkey brains. But I still feel sorry for you Tito. Just a little man who needs attention.

I guess I just don't have patience with people who tell everyone that they made a discovery and will share it then change their mind and not share. Or, as far as that goes, says he is leaving and always comes back.

I've come across people like you in the past. They will say anything just to get a little attention. There still might be one or two here that listen to your cry for attention but I think it is my time to leave, at least for a little while. Happy Easter to all, you too Tito.

Wow thank you sir thats more better. :)

The words morons, jerk, turkey etc.
i just learned them here sorry if i hurt everyone.

I believe we can all be friends.

i don't really need attentions, this is just the way i am sorry. :)

This is a day of peace ;)
bye

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ssss99 on April 22, 2011, 04:55:20 AM

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 04, 2011, 08:05:16 PM

hi just crossing :)

somebody wrote this in my personal message, can someone translate it for me? tnx ;)

Ð'Ð»Ð°Ð³Ð¾Ð´Ð°Ñ€Ñ Ð·Ð° Ð²ÑÐ¸Ñ‡ÐºÐ¾ Ð½Ð° ÐºÐ¾ÐµÑ,Ð¾ Ð¼Ðµ Ð½Ð°ÑƒÑ‡Ð¸. ÐŸÐ¾ÐºÐ»Ð¾Ð½ Ð¿Ñ€ÐµÐ´ Ñ,ÐµÐ±.

@ssss99
why are you quadrouple shocked? are you electrocuted? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on May 04, 2011, 08:28:05 PM

Ð'Ð»Ð°Ð³Ð¾Ð´Ð°Ñ€Ñ Ð·Ð° Ð²ÑÐ¸Ñ‡ÐºÐ¾ Ð½Ð° ÐºÐ¾ÐµÑ,Ð¾ Ð¼Ðµ Ð½Ð°ÑƒÑ‡Ð¸. ÐŸÐ¾ÐºÐ»Ð¾Ð½ Ð¿Ñ€ÐµÐ´ Ñ,ÐµÐ±.

Translation
Tito Why are you so Ugly,and you smell Bad!

And this :o :o :o :o
That means "Yes you hurt my eyes"

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 04, 2011, 08:33:23 PM

Quote from: ramset on May 04, 2011, 08:28:05 PM
Ð'Ð»Ð°Ð³Ð¾Ð´Ð°Ñ€Ñ Ð·Ð° Ð²ÑÐ¸Ñ‡ÐºÐ¾ Ð½Ð° ÐºÐ¾ÐµÑ,Ð¾ Ð¼Ðµ Ð½Ð°ÑƒÑ‡Ð¸. ÐŸÐ¾ÐºÐ»Ð¾Ð½ Ð¿Ñ€ÐµÐ´ Ñ,ÐµÐ±.

Translation
Tito Why are you so Ugly,and you smell Bad!

And this :o :o :o :o
That means "Yes you hurt my eyes"

Chet

hahahahahahahahah lol ;D
thank you ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Staffman on May 04, 2011, 08:33:54 PM

@Tito

Ð'Ð»Ð°Ð³Ð¾Ð´Ð°Ñ€Ñ Ð·Ð° Ð²ÑÐ¸Ñ‡ÐºÐ¾ Ð½Ð° ÐºÐ¾ÐµÑ,Ð¾ Ð¼Ðµ Ð½Ð°ÑƒÑ‡Ð¸. ÐŸÐ¾ÐºÐ»Ð¾Ð½ Ð¿Ñ€ÐµÐ´ Ñ,ÐµÐ±

Translated Via Google Translate (Bulgarian)
Thanks for everything you taught me. Bow to you

@Ramset
:D :D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 04, 2011, 08:40:07 PM

Quote from: Staffman on May 04, 2011, 08:33:54 PM
@Tito

Ð'Ð»Ð°Ð³Ð¾Ð´Ð°Ñ€Ñ Ð·Ð° Ð²ÑÐ¸Ñ‡ÐºÐ¾ Ð½Ð° ÐºÐ¾ÐµÑ,Ð¾ Ð¼Ðµ Ð½Ð°ÑƒÑ‡Ð¸. ÐŸÐ¾ÐºÐ»Ð¾Ð½ Ð¿Ñ€ÐµÐ´ Ñ,ÐµÐ±

Translated Via Google Translate (Bulgarian)
Thanks for everything you taught me. Bow to you

@Ramset
:D :D :D

i'm confused which is telling the truth? really? please. :)

Sir wattsup whose telling the truth?, i trust you anything you say.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on May 04, 2011, 08:44:55 PM

Tito
I cannot tell a lie [well sometimes?]
I lied
I don't know what it said!
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bruce_TPU on May 04, 2011, 09:53:56 PM

Hi all,

I'm off in TPU land working very hard, but figured most of Tito's stuff out after the last set of pics he posted. I wrote him and asked if I could post it. He said yes, and added a bit more information. I am too consumed to build this or the gravity machine, but seems pretty easy.

Basically, he is using a cascade voltage multiplier to up his voltage, dumping it into a bank of caps, using a fancy switching system to discharge each cap sequentially, then taking all of that combined voltage from all of the caps, and running it through his diode bridge configuration to change some of it back into amperage. He is then ending up with more out then in.

Not too sure where or if a coil fits in, he would have to answer that.

That's it. I hope that helps someone!

Back to rotating magnetic field...lol

Cheers,

Bruce

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 04, 2011, 09:58:09 PM

Hey Tito,
It does say, "Thanks for everything you taught me. Bow to you." Here's the link in case you want to try it yourself:
http://translate.google.com/#

How about this:
Una vieja que yo conocÃa debajo la cama un perro tenÃa. Cada vez que la vieja ladraba, el perro cantaba, y asÃ le decÃa: Â¡Te portes bien, Tito! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 05, 2011, 05:45:20 AM

Translation : "An old woman under the bed I knew had a dog. Every time the old bark, the dog was singing, so I said: you're good, Tito! , D"

????

How about this : Darmowa energia nie zbawi Å›wiata. Tito to wie. Co wiÄ™cej moÅ¼emy uczyniÄ‡ ? Bo coÅ› wiÄ™cej musimy zrobiÄ‡ na pewno.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on May 05, 2011, 11:47:13 AM

Quote from: forest on May 05, 2011, 05:45:20 AM

How about this : Darmowa energia [...]

"Free energy won't save the world. Tito knows that. What more can we do? Since we must do something, it's obvious." (Polish)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 05, 2011, 02:14:25 PM

Quote from: Qwert on May 05, 2011, 11:47:13 AM
"Free energy won't save the world. Tito knows that. What more can we do? Since we must do something, it's obvious." (Polish)

Almost.
"Free energy won't save the world. Tito knows that. What more can we do? Because we must do something MORE , certainly." (Polish)

One small word , one big change. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 05, 2011, 02:26:30 PM

I have a request for everybody here . Could you check Tesla patents in various countries outside USA ? How many such patents exists and where ? Access to such patents would be very informative I think. ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bruce_TPU on May 05, 2011, 05:06:36 PM

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on May 04, 2011, 09:53:56 PM
Hi all,

I'm off in TPU land working very hard, but figured most of Tito's stuff out after the last set of pics he posted. I wrote him and asked if I could post it. He said yes, and added a bit more information. I am too consumed to build this or the gravity machine, but seems pretty easy.

Basically, he is using a cascade voltage multiplier to up his voltage, dumping it into a bank of caps, using a fancy switching system to discharge each cap sequentially, then taking all of that combined voltage from all of the caps, and running it through his diode bridge configuration to change some of it back into amperage. He is then ending up with more out then in.

Not too sure where or if a coil fits in, he would have to answer that.

That's it. I hope that helps someone!

Back to rotating magnetic field...lol

Cheers,

Bruce

Hi forest and company,

Did you all read this?

Cheers,

Bruce

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 05, 2011, 06:41:40 PM

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on May 05, 2011, 05:06:36 PM
Hi forest and company,

Did you all read this?

Cheers,

Bruce

Yes,it's quite possible but it's just one of possible ways. Capacitive. I don't know how he converts voltage from caps into amperage or it's just happening ? That's what still bothering me : how to dump many HV kicks into large cap or caps and retrieve lower voltage but higher amperage.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bruce_TPU on May 05, 2011, 08:46:02 PM

Quote from: forest on May 05, 2011, 06:41:40 PM
Yes,it's quite possible but it's just one of possible ways. Capacitive. I don't know how he converts voltage from caps into amperage or it's just happening ? That's what still bothering me : how to dump many HV kicks into large cap or caps and retrieve lower voltage but higher amperage.

Hi forest,

Go back to the pictures he posted, of the caps, diodes, etc. One was a type of Diodes in parallel that convert high voltage to amperage, or so it says.

Oh, and one more thing, if he dumps say 300 volts and the caps are all in parallel all of the voltage is the same across the caps, 300 volts. Now if you sequentially release with a high speed switching system, one at a time, and say there are three caps, you will end up with 900 volts. I think that is the jist of it. Then turn that 900 volts into amperage.

Cheers,

Bruce

Cheers,

Bruce

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on May 05, 2011, 11:19:13 PM

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on May 05, 2011, 08:46:02 PM
Hi forest,

Go back to the pictures he posted, of the caps, diodes, etc. One was a type of Diodes in parallel that convert high voltage to amperage, or so it says.

Oh, and one more thing, if he dumps say 300 volts and the caps are all in parallel all of the voltage is the same across the caps, 300 volts. Now if you sequentially release with a high speed switching system, one at a time, and say there are three caps, you will end up with 900 volts. I think that is the jist of it. Then turn that 900 volts into amperage.

Cheers,

Bruce

Cheers,

Bruce

@Bruce_TPU

Geez that sounds a little like the Voltage Grabber animation I made a little while back.
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/voltage-grabber-circuit-VGC/
Just click on the gif file.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bruce_TPU on May 05, 2011, 11:28:45 PM

Quote from: wattsup on May 05, 2011, 11:19:13 PM
@Bruce_TPU

Geez that sounds a little like the Voltage Grabber animation I made a little while back.
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/voltage-grabber-circuit-VGC/
Just click on the gif file.

wattsup

Very cool Wattsup. I think the that is kind of it. Pretty simple in theory, but would take some folks with decent electronics skills to develop a switching circuit.

Tito already did.

I have helped these guys out, with confirmation from Tito, so I'm back to TPU land, very focused on my own experiments at the moment.

Cheers, and happy switching!

Bruce

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 06, 2011, 01:33:39 AM

There must be a simpler way for electronic newbie like me :(
Besides , we should talk more about the methods of protection from overcharging source battery or capacitors or how to prevent rise of voltage , to keep device in controlled state.
For example I'm wondering if placing varistor across capacitors could allow to charge them from higher voltage spikes without damage. For example varistor rated fro 400V when capacitors are charged from spikes of few kV : does it short-cut HV spikes or still allow capacitors charge ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 06, 2011, 09:06:55 PM

Quotewe should talk more about the methods of protection from overcharging source battery or capacitors or how to prevent rise of voltage , to keep device in controlled state.

Forest,
Might it be as simple as leaving the battery/batteries connected to something (perhaps via an inverter, if AC) in the "on" position, like a light or a small fan or something that would guarantee a continuous drain (given that there is an ongoing influx of electricity)?
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 07, 2011, 04:18:04 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on May 06, 2011, 09:06:55 PM
Forest,
Might it be as simple as leaving the battery/batteries connected to something (perhaps via an inverter, if AC) in the "on" position, like a light or a small fan or something that would guarantee a continuous drain (given that there is an ongoing influx of electricity)?
B

No,I think that would kill the process.Load can be attached after a few seconds when process is already at proper level. A few seconds earlier = no results, a few seconds later = problems.Battery may explode, leak or overcharge for example.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 07, 2011, 07:59:28 PM

Quote from: Qwert on May 05, 2011, 11:47:13 AM
"Free energy won't save the world. Tito knows that. What more can we do? Since we must do something, it's obvious." (Polish)

Yes, but don't worry God is in control, and only Jesus can save US

"BE STILL AND KNOW THAT I AM GOD" :)

The secret is repent and acceptance to Jesus.

I'm a reader of everything and always finding the truth and best, my request is at least one time please believe me that Jesus is knocking at the door of your heart and waiting for you to open it.

JESUS makes everything to be void and making his self to be the ANSWER.

THE SECRET: be true to your self, be like a small child and humble before him, ask for forgiveness and accept JESUS as your God and savior.

Remember!: Salvation is free and !NOT! of our good works !BUT! a gift of GOD. :)

Im a researcher of everything and found that this is the truth.
so PRAY, PRAY, PRAY.

An effective prayer style?: talking to God like a very humble child ;)

@bruce
Your kind bro salute you , at least i know who are friends here ;)

@stefan
i'm sorry sir for violating some of your rules here but if you allow me then i'm sure God's face is happy for you . ;)

========================
as usual i'm just crossing ;)

Noicaro L. Otit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on May 07, 2011, 10:59:38 PM

as usual, you just talking useless words. helping only to you ego. I remember priest which was talking preachment more than 20 years (something like "salve yourself"), but after 20 years he realized that he actually never help anybody. I see you will never recognize this.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 08, 2011, 06:51:04 AM

Useful words are meant for useful people, they become useless if they are less use by Ignorant Wise Demon ;D

You know, by saying only the word "save yourself", You have helped already.

I think it is you that cannot recognize. :P

Peace bro ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on May 08, 2011, 07:01:58 AM

Tito:

Man, I hold nothing against you bro but, now you may be too late as Romero has published on this site, a closed loop, self running generator that everyone is taking a very good look at and replications are underway.

Not to imply that this is a race but, this stuff was bound to come out here eventually with all of the smart guys here working on it. So, I guess what I am saying is that, if you were trying to protect yourself after the OU disclosure, you need not worry about that anymore. It is out. Check out Romero's Muller OU generator topic here. I am not saying this is related to your work at all, but, it appears that we now have a documented OU device here on OU.com. that has total and complete disclosure in open source.

Peace be with you sir.

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on May 08, 2011, 04:17:35 PM

Yes Bill, it is nice to know that not everyone on this site is as greedy and selfish as others. The whole purpose of this site is to share ideas and discoveries, not learn from other people and then come here and preach.

What really bothers me here are people that claim to have made a discovery and will not share with others. Then they have the balls to come here and try to preach to us about God and Jesus. They are nothing but hypocrites.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 08, 2011, 08:00:48 PM

Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 08, 2011, 07:01:58 AM
Tito:

Man, I hold nothing against you bro but, now you may be too late as Romero has published on this site, a closed loop, self running generator that everyone is taking a very good look at and replications are underway.

Not to imply that this is a race but, this stuff was bound to come out here eventually with all of the smart guys here working on it. So, I guess what I am saying is that, if you were trying to protect yourself after the OU disclosure, you need not worry about that anymore. It is out. Check out Romero's Muller OU generator topic here. I am not saying this is related to your work at all, but, it appears that we now have a documented OU device here on OU.com. that has total and complete disclosure in open source.

Peace be with you sir.

Bill

Hi bill ;)
I want you to know that i am very happy for that sir ;)

maybe we're just fighting now in the design which one can last longer. :)

@mr mag
i'm not preaching i'm sharing! clear?! got it man? ;D
and i'm not greedy, i'm giving for those who really deserves it! :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on May 09, 2011, 02:18:25 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 08, 2011, 08:00:48 PM

@mr mag
i'm not preaching i'm sharing! clear?! got it man? ;D
and i'm not greedy, i'm giving for those who really deserves it! :P

Talking about God and Jesus isn't preaching? We don't need to listen to you about that here, that is what church is for. And I also don't need anyone tell me what to believe in. You have your beliefs and I have mine.

Yes you are greedy, who are you giving it too, yourself and your family? That is greedy and selfish. If you don't plan on sharing here, go away.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 09, 2011, 06:15:58 AM

Quote from: MrMag on May 09, 2011, 02:18:25 AM
Talking about God and Jesus isn't preaching? We don't need to listen to you about that here, that is what church is for. And I also don't need anyone tell me what to believe in. You have your beliefs and I have mine.

Yes you are greedy, who are you giving it too, yourself and your family? That is greedy and selfish. If you don't plan on sharing here, go away.

You should know the difference of inside the church and outside the church.
greedy to you but caring for my family, another you should learn that difference. i think its none sense talking to you man, cause you do not know simple differences. i now quit talking to you really none sense. :-\

It is now to God you are accounted i've done my part.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on May 09, 2011, 09:26:14 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 08, 2011, 08:00:48 PM
[...]and i'm not greedy, i'm giving for those who really deserves it! :P

Do you have a prescription on how to discriminate those who really deserve it from those who do not deserve that? You seem to not remember this: â€œJudge not, and you will not be judged" (there are more quotes from the Bible about judging others, available on the internet, an example is here: http://www.openbible.info/topics/judging_others). Don't you think, you do more harm than good to your God, using questionable opinions?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 09, 2011, 02:17:00 PM

Can you help me ? I'm not sure something about mosfets. If I have mosfet connected to one circuit via source and drain terminals , can I open/close mosfet sending square wave to gate from external circuit or signal generator ?

And : if mosfet is connected to HV sources but potential difference between them is very small (and in the range of normal ratings of mosfet) would it works properly even is signal to gate is applied from external low voltage source ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on May 10, 2011, 01:17:48 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 09, 2011, 06:15:58 AM
You should know the difference of inside the church and outside the church.

Preaching is preaching. It doesn't matter if your inside or outside the church. What I am getting at is that this thread is about "Energy Amplification". We are not interested in your references to God or Jesus.

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 09, 2011, 06:15:58 AM
greedy to you but caring for my family, another you should learn that difference. i think its none sense talking to you man, cause you do not know simple differences. i now quit talking to you really none sense. :-\

Do you know how many families there are on this earth? You only care about 1. Yes, that makes you a greedy and an uncaring person. I understand that your family does come first, so does mine, but what about my family and everyone else family.

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 09, 2011, 06:15:58 AM
It is now to God you are accounted i've done my part.

Yes, you are right. It is up to you to explain to him one day. What will you say when he asks you," I have given you OU, why haven't you shared it with the world and all of my children?" "Why did you keep it to yourself?" I know one thing. You can't answer that no one has asked for you to share it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 10, 2011, 10:27:42 PM

C'mon guys. Tito gave lots of clues and links to videos that describe what he's done. It's very simple, and not rocket science. Lots of people are putting together units like this, even using a sheet of aluminum foil and into the caps, coils & secondaries, thru diodes, etc., with or without a rectifier. Just build small and scale up. There are plenty of YT videos out there to show how it's done. Most are missing the coil with secondary - you gotta just play around. Just go back thru the thread and read, then try a few things, and give the guy a break.
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 11, 2011, 05:54:37 AM

@ mr mag!

ok! lets forget everything! just do the muller dynamo, its an obvious free energy ok ;D

Don't concentrate in my discovery its mine ok!

be contented to the muller dynamo of romeroUK

lets be happy now :D

I forgive you. for what ever ;)

ps: tnx bob ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 11, 2011, 07:52:29 AM

Seems Romero has left the building, hope he and his family are ok
A very brave man
I think it has to be done with the pay it forward system, show someone that has to show it to two others that have to show to two others until it spreads throughout the world.
Tito follow your heart.

Dave

Oh if you really want free energy there is enough information on the Ramero generator for a replication.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on May 11, 2011, 01:19:11 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 11, 2011, 05:54:37 AM
@ mr mag!

Don't concentrate in my discovery its mine ok!

Exactly my point. You claimed you had a discovery and you were going to share it. now you have become greedy and keep it to yourself.
Thank God there are people out there who aren't as greedy as you.
There is no need to forgive me for anything. ou are the one who needs forgiveness.
So, I guess if you don't want to share, you can go away. We don't need you. By Tito.

@all
I'm done with this greedy liar and will not follow this thread any longer. I don't like being told, "haha I got it, you don't".
If you want to follow this idiot, go for it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: markunity on May 11, 2011, 02:16:30 PM

Common Tito spill it out, if you are scared to the MIB people when you share it with us then use a dns to change your IP and also rent a pc it just take 5 minutes to share your blessings to the world. We all know that your device is superior because it is already a solid state, just show us a working schematic and a video/picture of your device and our grand children's children will be thankful to you.

Mark

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 12, 2011, 06:16:02 AM

Quote from: MrMag on May 11, 2011, 01:19:11 PM
Exactly my point. You claimed you had a discovery and you were going to share it. now you have become greedy and keep it to yourself.
Thank God there are people out there who aren't as greedy as you.
There is no need to forgive me for anything. ou are the one who needs forgiveness.
So, I guess if you don't want to share, you can go away. We don't need you. By Tito.

@all
I'm done with this greedy liar and will not follow this thread any longer. I don't like being told, "haha I got it, you don't".
If you want to follow this idiot, go for it.

:P ;D ;D

if i decide to share it, then i will not share it to you! bipilar idiot! ;D ;

You know why tesla kept the secret! if not then read! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on May 12, 2011, 07:18:00 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on May 12, 2011, 09:45:23 AM

HHMMmmm
Mr.Goose,What ?,Did you say something "nasty" to Teetsla?
And I missed it?
Rats........
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on May 12, 2011, 10:10:49 AM

Quote from: ramset on May 12, 2011, 09:45:23 AM
HHMMmmm
Mr.Goose,What ?,Did you say something "nasty" to Teetsla?
And I missed it?
Rats........
Chet

Chet

Hahahahaha....you know me sooo well.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on May 12, 2011, 10:23:21 AM

@EG

I read your post. First off running after @Tito is useless so I strongly recommend you guys just stop and put your minds on other things.

Regarding those videos you posted, it is very difficult to prove anything with a lit LED with all those instruments in his closet, plus the overhead neon lights, etc. There is so much energy being dissipated in that one small area that the LED could be lighting just from that or just from having the probe on it.

He would have to turn off all his instruments and lighting to see if there is anything more.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on May 12, 2011, 11:12:49 AM

Quote from: wattsup on May 12, 2011, 10:23:21 AM
@EG

I read your post. First off running after @Tito is useless so I strongly recommend you guys just stop and put your minds on other things.

wattsup

Agree wattsup....thats why I took a breath and erased.

Regarding FE... between the doubters and those that can't see the bigger picture yet, all the words in the world won't help. Each person has to come to the discovery on their own.

All the best

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: fconst on May 14, 2011, 04:21:39 PM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on February 23, 2011, 04:42:21 AM
is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
then he is not omnipotent...

is he able, but not willing?
then he is malevolent...

is he both able and willing?
then whence cometh evil?

is he neither able nor willing?
then why call him god?
- epicurus

end of story.

Hello,guys...

You know there's no God upstairs,so we're on our own...maybe this sounds a little unfaithful,but this is the truth I trust...it's only our brain and mind that will save us eventually...even the odds are weak for now...there's no rush for the moment,but the clock is ticking though...we have another 5 billion years to go for it...before our sun becomes history...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 14, 2011, 06:24:22 PM

Hmmm another preaching atheist. Why dont you open an atheist church, cuz the only ones that want to here that will come in.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 15, 2011, 11:41:41 PM

Quote from: fconst on May 14, 2011, 04:21:39 PM
Hello,guys...

You know there's no God upstairs,so we're on our own...maybe this sounds a little unfaithful,but this is the truth I trust...it's only our brain and mind that will save us eventually...even the odds are weak for now...there's no rush for the moment,but the clock is ticking though...we have another 5 billion years to go for it...before our sun becomes history...

@eg
why did you erased, i like seeing useless comment from a goose attack :D
i missed it!

@the atheist
Simple common sense, why there is a word GOD and why they know the attributes of a GOD.

now! if you believe there is evil or demon then there should be a greater and more powerful than them.

? is the nerve connected in your eye going to brain is just a coincidence ???

the size of your finger, why they are like that, they are not equal in size but they work perfectly; hmmm another coincidence.

The air we breath do you see it?, but there is isn't it? oh coincidence :D
The electricity do you see it? touch it and you will believe but you die ;D
There are things that we cannot see by our eyes but they are existing isn't it?

The conscience of a human being is the one that testify that God is real. Jesus already testify, even you do not use a bible, just use enzyclopedia that there was a time that A named JESUS exist and testify that there is GOD! got it! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 15, 2011, 11:47:03 PM

Quote from: fconst on May 14, 2011, 04:21:39 PM
Hello,guys...

You know there's no God upstairs,so we're on our own...maybe this sounds a little unfaithful,but this is the truth I trust...it's only our brain and mind that will save us eventually...even the odds are weak for now...there's no rush for the moment,but the clock is ticking though...we have another 5 billion years to go for it...before our sun becomes history...

God is patience and good, there is an appointed and sure time for the devil, you wait, and you are included to them for punishment, cause you did not believe him for he is real.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 15, 2011, 11:58:44 PM

Quote from: ElectricGoose on May 12, 2011, 10:10:49 AM
Chet

Hahahahaha....you know me sooo well.

Ya we know your moron comment ;D joke

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on May 16, 2011, 12:33:09 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 15, 2011, 11:47:03 PM
God is patience and good, there is an appointed and sure time for the devil, you wait, and you are included to them for punishment, cause you did not believe him for he is real.

is your religion real when it costs you nothing and carries no risk? is your religion real when you fatten upon it? is your religion real when you commit atrocities in its name? whence comes your downward degeneration from the original revelation?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 16, 2011, 01:54:35 AM

why is that : air, fingers, nerves, eyes : all are natural and we use them naturally
if there is free energy around why we don't use it naturally but instead dig for oil ? maybe God has given a special rule for using free energy ? not for money, not for power, not for sin , not for current economy ???
we can easily generate huge voltages but we don't know how to use it , how to convert it to power :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on May 16, 2011, 02:40:19 AM

Quote from: forest on May 16, 2011, 01:54:35 AM
why is that : air, fingers, nerves, eyes : all are natural and we use them naturally
if there is free energy around why we don't use it naturally but instead dig for oil ? maybe God has given a special rule for using free energy ? not for money, not for power, not for sin , not for current economy ???
we can easily generate huge voltages but we don't know how to use it , how to convert it to power :(

It's not that the powers that be don't KNOW how to generate power efficiently. You think the last 100 years they have only been ably to get the best terrestrial solar cells up to 27% (average)?!! Give me a break! The tech is there and there are plenty of other ways to efficiently convert power without destroying the planet.

However, for as long as MONEY exists and that big fat Hamster (the global economy) has to keep us all running on its stupid wheel, then NOTHING, will ever change.

Even Bedini is guilty of it. Don't believe for a moment that he has been intimidated. Those stories are just convenient!! He is making loads of money off his 'radiant charger' crap which will be the next economy and cycle in the energy evoloution.

Nothing changes until WE change and get rid of money. Its as simple as that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on May 16, 2011, 02:46:48 AM

the wheel never stops turning, but that only matters to the people on the rim... ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on May 16, 2011, 02:50:28 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on May 16, 2011, 02:46:48 AM
the wheel never stops turning, but that only matters to the people on the rim... ;)

LOL, I think I get that!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on May 16, 2011, 03:49:30 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on May 16, 2011, 02:46:48 AM
the wheel never stops turning, but that only matters to the people on the rim... ;)

No one has ever won the Human race, but it is fun to watch. (Kinky Friedman) (Paraphrased)

Not every hamster rides the wheel. (Kinky Friedman)

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 17, 2011, 04:43:32 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on May 16, 2011, 02:46:48 AM
the wheel never stops turning, but that only matters to the people on the rim... ;)

No! the wheel never stop turning cause it uses the muller dynamo ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 17, 2011, 04:50:44 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on May 16, 2011, 12:33:09 AM
is your religion real when it costs you nothing and carries no risk? is your religion real when you fatten upon it? is your religion real when you commit atrocities in its name? whence comes your downward degeneration from the original revelation?

It is not the religion is important but it is the personal relationship to God is what matters most ;)

it is only you can tell whats your status score of relationship to God, but don't worry not yet too late your still alive, God is still waiting and very patience and kind and he loves us so much, just pray and be humble ;).

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 17, 2011, 04:54:42 AM

Hi everyone,

I have a question: why bruce is sooooo very haaaapppy ??? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on May 17, 2011, 05:07:58 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 17, 2011, 04:50:44 AM
just pray and be humble ;).

LOL!!! prayer: how to do nothing and still think you're helping.
how appropriate coming from you tito... ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 17, 2011, 05:16:20 AM

Quote from: forest on May 16, 2011, 01:54:35 AM
why is that : air, fingers, nerves, eyes : all are natural and we use them naturally
if there is free energy around why we don't use it naturally but instead dig for oil ? maybe God has given a special rule for using free energy ? not for money, not for power, not for sin , not for current economy ???
we can easily generate huge voltages but we don't know how to use it , how to convert it to power :(

For the atheist it is just a coincidence but for the children of God, it is a wonderful, amazing and a real brilliant work and of Gods masterpiece. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 17, 2011, 05:26:04 AM

ok,why Bruce is happy ? a tip please ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 17, 2011, 05:33:27 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on May 17, 2011, 05:07:58 AM
LOL!!! prayer: how to do nothing and still think you're helping.
how appropriate coming from you tito... ;)

Pray for someone who hurt you most and God will smile at you and from that you are helping others and yourself to become more stronger. ;)

God loves you very much bro ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on May 17, 2011, 12:12:37 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 17, 2011, 05:33:27 AM
Pray for someone who hurt you most and God will smile at you and from that you are helping others and yourself to become more stronger. ;)

God loves you very much bro ;)

Just on time to this discussion: http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110516/us_yblog_thelookout/stephen-hawking-says-afterlife-is-a-fairy-story
"There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark" (Stephen Hawking).

My personal opinion? I believe those, who can convince me.

Q

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on May 17, 2011, 12:41:04 PM

From Qwerts link
Steven Hawkings
Quote:
"Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing"
----------------

WELL ........That says it all..........How profound!!
Such wisdom, I am speachless!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 17, 2011, 01:24:44 PM

Quote from: Qwert on May 17, 2011, 12:12:37 PM
Just on time to this discussion: http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110516/us_yblog_thelookout/stephen-hawking-says-afterlife-is-a-fairy-story
"There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark" (Stephen Hawking).

My personal opinion? I believe those, who can convince me.

Q

I think that Hawkings statement is a tragedy to those who will follow what he claims.

Q It isnt others convincing that will get you there. Only you can do that. Its you that has to give it a chance.

I have had some revelations that got me there. I cannot call them coincidences. These revelations can turn you on a dime, and you will believe. ;]

A while back. I was reading a story from Cosmo about an alien abduction. I had gotten half way through and stated that it could "possibly" be a compliment to the Bible.
I didnt say that it was, just "possibly".
Bruce had pm me about something else I had said.
I said that my mom didnt like me to read those things as it might lead me away from what the bible says. And Bruce said. "I think your mom was right".

I dont let anything take me away from the bible. Nothing could change that. It was just a lot of things that made some sense. In the bible it spoke of a chariot of fire, manna, and other things that clicked. So my response was "possibly". Not definitely. ;]

I believe in the possibility that angels of good and bad, could use flying machines.
Maybe if area 51 aliens do or did exist, maybe they were or are the same as they were describing, and they traveled in chariots of fire. Back then, how else would they describe such things?

Back when they were choosing which books would be allowed to be compiled into the bible, the original "King James Version", What was in those other books? What is there that we dont know, that may have been true or not?

Now we have New King James versions and others. From what I have read, these new versions have some distortions in wording and even missing or added(mostly missing near 65000 words =o) And it is written that they will change Gods word and will pay dearly for it.

I have a belief though that for each person, if you are seeking him, you will find him. And whether you read one version or the others, if your intentions are good, you will get the correct message. Even if books are missing, I believe that we have enough to get the message as the Holy Spirit will guide you. You just have to ask for it.

Its funny. Not until you get about half way into the bible does it tell you this. And it hit me like a brick.

When I was younger, I found it hard to read the bible, as I would rather someone explain it for me.

An interesting thing of many that got me, was where there is a list of descendants going backwards, stating their names, age, and their fathers before them. As I read it, it went on and on, and I looked ahead a bit and thought, ok, maybe I can skip this and continue past that, as I didnt see the importance of it. But something said to me, no, read it, dont skip.. And as it had gotten close to the end, it said, and his father was Adam, and his father was God. That struck me hard. I then was so glad I had not skipped a beat. And I will now not skip anything in that way again when it comes to the bible. ;]

You have to give it a chance. The apostles would travel to teach Gods word. Some would not accept it, and they would have to move on, as they had no time to waste to find others that would accept the message and believe.

Nobody can convince you of it. We all have something deep inside that tells us he is there.
But there is someone else that tells you things in your head also. these thoughts may seem like they are your own thoughts, or even from God himself, but they are not.
It is up to us to determine what is right and what is wrong. It is hard to do without the Holy Spirit to guide you. That is something you will have to ask for, and it will be given. Then you will know. ;]

Mags got Jesus =]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on May 17, 2011, 02:07:43 PM

Hey, Mag. Have you seen the link I've posted? Its very first sentence is this: "Renowned physicist Stephen Hawking recently explained his belief that there is no God and that humans should therefore seek to live the most valuable lives they can while on Earth." This is what I have meant. One is unable to hurt God when he (the one) disbelieves his existence, while it is very easy to hurt other people; so, see the above highlighted quote, right again.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on May 17, 2011, 03:08:29 PM

You see Tito,
Thats what a "Man" looks like.
Mags ,I salute you....................
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 18, 2011, 05:11:56 AM

Quote from: Qwert on May 17, 2011, 12:12:37 PM
Just on time to this discussion: http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110516/us_yblog_thelookout/stephen-hawking-says-afterlife-is-a-fairy-story
"There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark" (Stephen Hawking).

My personal opinion? I believe those, who can convince me.

Q

The highest trusted person should be JESUS!
JESUS said that there is GOD, then

Stephen Hawking said there is no GOD; sorry i don't know were this look like nerd person comes from.

now! first question: who is the son of GOD?

And then it seems that you were convinced by Stephen Kingkong, LOL ;D you make me laugh
and then you already have a disciples CHET ;D LOL ;D LOL And that really make me laugh hahahahahahahahah ;D

oh how genious you are ;D

@mags
I agree with you.
But i feel that you are still missing one thing more and that is the activity of JESUS in your heart, sorry but that is just what i feel bro. ;)

@Chet

sponteneous creation? hahahahhahah , the bible said that at the seventh day he rested or stopping from all his creation. and seeing that everything is good! got it chet?
;D :P
And therefore i conclude that you were convinced by a moron physicist ;D joke

PS: you know what?, sometimes because of seeing ourself very genius and intelligent we overlook the simple important things that we should know . :D

PS2: i thinkt it should not be called spontaneous creation but spontaneous mutation. and that maybe i will believe to stephen kingkong ;D

PS3: Sometimes you need to be hurt by others to learn ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 18, 2011, 05:52:30 AM

@ Chet

i'm speechless but i cannot stop my self laughing. ;D :D :D :D :D

i think some other disciples are also laughing now hahahahahhahahhahahahahhahahahahah ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 18, 2011, 06:13:36 AM

@ the atheist

here is my final comment to all of you so listened carefully :

JESUS is the most highest trusted person cause he is the son of GOD.

Jesus said God is real and the punishment for not believing is tormented in the lake of fire FOREVER!

it is now in your wise or moron decision were you want to spent your life to eternity.

REMEMBER: IGNORANCE WITH THE LAW EXCUSES NO ONE ! >:(

God bless you everyone
otit L. noicaro

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on May 18, 2011, 08:28:03 AM

Hey Tito
What part of Christianity is a secret??
Buddy You are absolutely and completely out of your mind!,I don't know what kind of "big book" you read?
But your "Nuts" if you think your example is in any way "Christian"!

You have shown nothing but Greed, Pride and selfishness ,you serve the wrong master!

Nuts!!
BTW
RE Steven Hawkings ...............Look up "sarcasm"?

Chet
PS
otits ,I wrestle everyday with "doing the right thing",it is not easy!!

Keeping the "gifts" to your self?
supposed to be "selfless" not "selfish"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 18, 2011, 08:38:32 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 18, 2011, 05:11:56 AM

@mags
I agree with you.
But i feel that you are still missing one thing more and that is the activity of JESUS in your heart, sorry but that is just what i feel bro. ;)

Hmm. Ok Tito. Say as you will. But Im not the one here calling others morons and saying words like shit etc. in between talking of God. You better look in the mirror. "Yee all be hypocrites."

If you think you are without sin, you need to read again, and again and again.....

You have a lot to learn before you can teach anyone anything. I cannot say that you can lead by those examples.

Sorry, "but thats just how I feel. " ;]

This will be all I will say on that matter.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on May 18, 2011, 09:19:20 AM

I do not believe the picture of God which churches, (like i.e. Roman-Catholic) show. Probably, this is the picture that also other religions reveal. Why I do not believe this? Because God, revealed this way, is well... just incoherent.
Let's see the superior subject in this religion (and probably in other religions too): the Love. According to the church(es), God's love is superior. Only unconditional love can be superior and religions admit this. But, according to church(es), only strict conditions give a reward: God rewards us for our obedience!!! It's not LOVE. It's bussiness contract: I'll give you something, when you pay me for this. Jesus died for us, but he requires some conditions to get the reward he offers. Is this SUPERIOR LOVE?? I can show examples of people, who give this kind of love; this way, are they superior over God?
There are a lot more examples of incoherency in the Bible. But this forum is not a place to discuss such subject.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 18, 2011, 10:23:43 AM

I stumbled upon this http://www.rmcybernetics.com/images/main/pyhsics/voltmultip22.jpg
Which one is better to charge capacitor ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on May 18, 2011, 02:08:20 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on May 18, 2011, 08:38:32 AM
If you think you are without sin, you need to read again, and again and again.....

i am "without sin"... you see, the very concept of sin comes from the holy babble. christianity offers to solve a problem of its own making! would you be thankful to a person who cut you with a knife in order to sell you a bandage? ::) just because your book claims something, does not make it so. no more so than if i were to write a book and call you something pejorative...

only sheep need shepherds.

"a man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death" -- albert einstien

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on May 18, 2011, 04:49:14 PM

W,
:P
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 18, 2011, 11:24:25 PM

well, as i have told you before, i learned all of those nasty words here, did you not notice that i am not using them before.

ok! i was proboke and forced to use them and i think the word used by them are appropriate for them!

ok, i appologized if i used them to others if they did not use them to me ok.

@ CHET
GREEDY?

i have shared a lot you just don't see it;
i gave my hand and you want my neck!

got it?

ps: it is not a gift it is a discovery by hard work, and you don't want to work and that is lazyness!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 18, 2011, 11:35:42 PM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on May 18, 2011, 02:08:20 PM
i am "without sin"... you see, the very concept of sin comes from the holy babble. christianity offers to solve a problem of its own making! would you be thankful to a person who cut you with a knife in order to sell you a bandage? ::) just because your book claims something, does not make it so. no more so than if i were to write a book and call you something pejorative...

only sheep need shepherds.

"a man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death" -- albert einstien

its actually personal, cause Jesus really don't want us to live in sin, he said "sin no more".
and by not committing sin then you are being good to others and to yourself.

Actually sin is a great part plan of God for you and me to be saved.
God knows that no one can follow his ten commandments

Because of sin no one is going in heaven, and because of our sins JESUS died on the cross for us to have salvation, all we need to do is repentance and acceptance for the work done by Jesus.

Jesus did it for us.so that no one can be boast. salvation is now a gift.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 18, 2011, 11:48:24 PM

Now! lets go back to magnetic field so that everyone of us be energize. :D

@ forest
i'm using this one, the villard cascade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_multiplier

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 19, 2011, 03:07:23 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 18, 2011, 11:48:24 PM
Now! lets go back to magnetic field so that everyone of us be energize. :D

@ forest
i'm using this one, the villard cascade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_multiplier

yes,that's the same I posted,but there are two versions depending on hv polarity (positive/negative)
is that matter which one I use to charge cap?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 20, 2011, 06:02:53 AM

Quote from: forest on May 19, 2011, 03:07:23 AM
yes,that's the same I posted,but there are two versions depending on hv polarity (positive/negative)
is that matter which one I use to charge cap?

Actually we can use any voltage multiplier.

its up to you whatever you want to use.

======================================
Someone wrote me a letter, i will not show his name, i don't understand the message again ;D
Hola Tito
Acabo de dejar un mensaje en el thread sobre el aparato tuyo. Se que estÃ¡s caminando con integridad. Ya has dado informaciones suficientes para realizar un aparato. Ãnimo, entonces, y no pierdes nunca tu sentido de humor. Y si puedo aÃ±adir una palabra de aviso â€" si te ataquen, no lo tomes personalmente â€" es solo un juego para hacerte sentir malo para que les entregues tu trabajo. Ya has dado mucho y ahora toca a ellos trabajar. Feliz Pascuas y quâ€™estÃ©s bien.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on May 20, 2011, 07:36:08 AM

Tito
Its one of your admirers ,a fellow heathen [atheist] that thinks just like you do
To hell with the suffering in this world [they're probably Lazy anyway].
I GOT MINE ,The rest of you can starve to death or Die of thirst for all I care

Amen Brother!!

What greater sin........then to have the power to save a life and choose not to!

Christian?? Buddy you have got to be making a joke?

Tito you better Wake up!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on May 20, 2011, 05:32:22 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 18, 2011, 11:35:42 PM
its actually personal, cause Jesus really don't want us to live in sin, he said "sin no more".
and by not committing sin then you are being good to others and to yourself.

sin is a construct of man and the holy babble (which was written by men)

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 18, 2011, 11:35:42 PM
Actually sin is a great part plan of God for you and me to be saved.
God knows that no one can follow his ten commandments

actually, sin is a construct of man and so is the holy babble.

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 18, 2011, 11:35:42 PM
Because of sin no one is going in heaven, and because of our sins JESUS died on the cross for us to have salvation, all we need to do is repentance and acceptance for the work done by Jesus.

heaven is a man made construct, so is sin...

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 18, 2011, 11:35:42 PM
Jesus did it for us.so that no one can be boast. salvation is now a gift.

believing in firemen will not save a burning house... believing in doctors will not make a sick man well... yet believing in your imaginary savior saves men??? LMFAO you can't even save yourself teets, don't try and save the rest of us... ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 23, 2011, 02:57:34 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on May 20, 2011, 05:32:22 PM
sin is a construct of man and the holy babble (which was written by men)
actually, sin is a construct of man and so is the holy babble.
heaven is a man made construct, so is sin...
believing in firemen will not save a burning house... believing in doctors will not make a sick man well... yet believing in your imaginary savior saves men??? LMFAO you can't even save yourself teets, don't try and save the rest of us... ::)

if you don't believe in Jesus we can't finish anything. JESUS is the root ok.

Bible was written by men but by the full control of the Holy spirit.

Sin is a cause of not following the commandments of Jesus.

Yes! believing in firemen will not save a burning house but Jesus promise to build a lot of mansions in heaven for us
and i believe that.
Yes! believing in doctors will not make a sick man well, but Jesus is our JEHOVAH RAFFA our healer and i believe that and He can even raise dead into life, do you remember Lazarus he was dead in four days.

Yes! i cannot save myself even the rest of you BUT!!!!!! JESUS CHRIST can and that is the truth, read the Bible bro. you really need help, oh how pitty for a man if he doesn't have JESUS in his life :(

Jesus said to the thief YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE and that is just an acceptance and believing in Jesus made by the thief. and that is one of our assurance that we will be with Jesus if we die believing in him.

Heaven maybe is a man made word but!!! it is Jesus that made a promise to make a special place for us.

if Jesus is imaginary then no more truth and no more hopes but Jesus is alive so rejoice with a voice of triumph!.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on May 23, 2011, 03:21:11 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 23, 2011, 02:57:34 AM
if you don't believe in Jesus we can't finish anything. JESUS is the root ok.

jesus is not the root. jesus is your crutch, your excuse, your folly.

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 23, 2011, 02:57:34 AM
Bible was written by men but by the full control of the Holy spirit.

the holy babble was written by men. period. you have ZERO material evidence of the influence of the 'holy spirit'. furthermore, you have ZERO material evidence of the existence of a 'holy spirit'... ::)

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 23, 2011, 02:57:34 AM
Sin is a cause of not following the commandments of Jesus.

sin is a man made construct which originates in the holy babble. if you want to consider yourself a "sinner" fine. so be it. don't include me in your god delusions. ::)

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 23, 2011, 02:57:34 AM
Yes! believing in firemen will not save a burning house but Jesus promise to build a lot of mansions in heaven for us
and i believe that.
Yes! believing in doctors will not make a sick man well, but Jesus is our JEHOVAH RAFFA our healer and i believe that and He can even raise dead into life, do you remember Lazarus he was dead in four days.

yeah i remember the story of lazarus. he is from that book, the holy babble, which was written by men... what's your point? do you want me to show you how many other world religions, ones that are OLDER than christianity, have resurrections?

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 23, 2011, 02:57:34 AM
Yes! i cannot save myself even the rest of you BUT!!!!!! JESUS CHRIST can and that is the truth, read the Bible bro. you really need help, oh how pitty for a man if he doesn't have JESUS in his life :(

i've read the holy babble, probably more than you have. i went to a private parochial school... their brainwashing didn't stick with me. you really need to get your head checked bro, believing in imaginary friends is a childhood thing. grow up. embrace logic and reason. ::)

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 23, 2011, 02:57:34 AM
Jesus said to the thief YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE and that is just an acceptance and believing in Jesus made by the thief. and that is one of our assurance that we will be with Jesus if we die believing in him.

Heaven maybe is a man made word but!!! it is Jesus that made a promise to make a special place for us.

i am aware how your fairytale goes... ::) when you understand why it is that you discredit all the other "gods", you will understand why i discredit yours.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 23, 2011, 03:30:23 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on May 23, 2011, 03:21:11 AM
jesus is not the root. jesus is your crutch, your excuse, your folly.
the holy babble was written by men. period. you have ZERO material evidence of the influence of the 'holy spirit'. furthermore, you have ZERO material evidence of the existence of a 'holy spirit'... ::)
sin is a man made construct which originates in the holy babble. if you want to consider yourself a "sinner" fine. so be it. don't include me in your god delusions. ::)
yeah i remember the story of lazarus. he is from that book, the holy babble, which was written by men... what's your point? do you want me to show you how many other world religions, ones that are OLDER than christianity, have resurrections?
i've read the holy babble, probably more than you have. i went to a private parochial school... their brainwashing didn't stick with me. you really need to get your head checked bro, believing in imaginary friends is a childhood thing. grow up. embrace logic and reason. ::)
i am aware how your fairytale goes... ::) when you understand why it is that you discredit all the other "gods", you will understand why i discredit yours.

That's it if you don't believe in Jesus then no more talk. one thing more you will not be in paradise someday . bye ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on May 23, 2011, 03:38:04 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 23, 2011, 03:30:23 AM
That's it if you don't believe in Jesus then no more talk. one thing more you will not be in paradise someday . bye ;D

i don't. and it's irrelevant to the topic, so please shut up about your imaginary friend. regarding your "paradise"... if people like you are going to be there, who the hell wants to go?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on May 23, 2011, 05:31:25 AM

Paradise??
Tito you keep secret a device that saves lives?
You think you get Paradise for that?Maybe if you let enough people Die You'll get 40 Virgins Too!
Your a lunatic!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 23, 2011, 11:30:32 AM

Tito,oh Tito

you are the mystery ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 23, 2011, 05:33:38 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXKN-aUAe6Q&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7C7YOetDY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKvR5OlLNDM

could you download it and store somewhere ? It is damn slow to obtain them from youtube. Suppression ??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 26, 2011, 03:36:58 PM

cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiWMTynma9A

info is spreading...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 27, 2011, 04:17:04 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on May 23, 2011, 03:38:04 AM
i don't. and it's irrelevant to the topic, so please shut up about your imaginary friend. regarding your "paradise"... if people like you are going to be there, who the hell wants to go?

i am expecting that you don't believe in Jesus so that you can hide for the truth ;D

a lot of people believe that Jesus once lived on earth shouting and testifying that God is real, now were is your logic and reasoning that you are telling us. :D

You don't know me man, anyone who doesn't want to be tormented in hell want to go there.

ooops you can't go there, you don't believe in Jesus. ;D

how come it is irrelevant, Jesus is the important topic.

Remember YOU CANNOT HIDE IN JESUS!

@CHET
OK HERE IS THE REAL SECRET AND I AM REVEALING IT AGAIN

"THE FALLING DOMINO EFFECT and INCIDENTALLY HAS THE SAME EFFECT WHAT TESLA SAID ABOUT FALLING ICE STONE"

now thats it and there you have it, no more secret.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 27, 2011, 01:06:24 PM

Do you actually mean Ice Stone or Snow Ball? Not that it really matters, but I have never heard of Ice Stone. But a snow ball when rolled down a snow covered hill tends to get bigger and bigger as it rolls.

Or did Tesla actually say Ice Stone? I have not seen it.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on May 27, 2011, 01:58:09 PM

Mags,

See this link on Tesla resonance (snow ball included):
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4054.0

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 27, 2011, 02:03:10 PM

Mags,

Snow ball, but maybe it's better to think about many tuning forks ?
This conversation is relevant http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4054.0;imode

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 27, 2011, 06:54:30 PM

Thanks guys

So are we thinking of ramp charging here.
I have to read the tread again. Im a 2 timer. Sometimes 3. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 28, 2011, 04:13:43 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on May 27, 2011, 01:06:24 PM
Do you actually mean Ice Stone or Snow Ball? Not that it really matters, but I have never heard of Ice Stone. But a snow ball when rolled down a snow covered hill tends to get bigger and bigger as it rolls.

Or did Tesla actually say Ice Stone? I have not seen it.

Mags

oh ya! :D

i'm sorry its a snow ball i forgot the word, no matter if its a snow ball or ice stone as long as it is rolling and rolling and become bigger and bigger and many times it become avalance. the point is bigger and bigger but with full control with your hand.

and that means it grows.

good luck

that is all i can share forgive me.

*some clues and rules*

a) start from small energy or from the top of the hill then rock and roll ;D
b) coil
c) caps
d) diode
e) :-X
f) ;D

Remember: The circuit is really tricky, that's why i was very happy when i discovered it at 12am and because of that i didn't get my sleep
anymore. and every time i am analyzing the circuit, i cannot control myself to laugh. really made me lunatic as chet said ;D

otits L. noicaro

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 28, 2011, 04:25:04 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on May 27, 2011, 06:54:30 PM
Thanks guys

So are we thinking of ramp charging here.
I have to read the tread again. Im a 2 timer. Sometimes 3. ;]

Mags

no that's not the way, No ramp charging here ok!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on May 28, 2011, 04:34:51 AM

HHMMMm......
See Now I can't Sleep ,And Turn on my Computer and heres this guy Tito,Talking about how Happy he is!!

Tito.... Make Mags Happy Too, Explain what you mean ....... A little better?
Its confusing ,What makes the 12 AM circuit tricky?
Chet
PS
And I would like to add a comment [Not for Wilby]

Tito you say you worked hard for this "Its Yours" you deserve it!!

This is how i feel about these types of discoveries!! [which many men keep to themselves]

" I am in the Father, the father is in me ,and I am in you".................
"I could dwell anywhere in the Universe, But I choose to dwell in you"

Tito we are never alone , and your "hard work" ............Its not all you!![see above]
The Gifts Flow through us ,It is how our creator chooses to share ...................Don't suppress them!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 28, 2011, 04:41:03 AM

Quote from: ramset on May 28, 2011, 04:34:51 AM
HHMMMm......
See Now I can't Sleep ,And Turn on my Computer and heres this guy Tito,Talking about how Happy he is!!

Tito.... Make Mags Happy Too, Explain what you mean ....... A little better?
Its confusing ,What makes the 12 AM circuit tricky?
Chet

You're thinking too much honey :D
That is a joint coil the primary and secondary right? ;D

but! with a little twist in 12:30 am ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on May 28, 2011, 04:48:13 AM

I type very slow..[even slower when I'm tired] You missed the PS in my last post..............
Gotta go get some rest .....

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 28, 2011, 11:23:53 AM

How avoid this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExS43bv462M&feature=related in Tito circuit ?
Have you ever thought what is lead acid battery internally ? Especially dead sulphated one ....
Comments ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on June 01, 2011, 09:05:09 PM

lol thats pretty dangerous! imagine inhaling those acid fumes, what would it do to your lungs?

Hi im a newbie here firs post :D pls. bear with me hehe...

Btw, i've been following this thread lately, have anyone got what mr.Tito is telling us?

im thinking, is there a relevance of mr.Tito,s tech with mr.Aviso,s tech? what do you think?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 02, 2011, 01:21:13 AM

yes , the same technic - efficient use of source

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 02, 2011, 01:25:32 AM

Mr Tito ;D
Mr Aviso :D
Mr Wattsup ;)
Mr Forest :o
Mr Ramset ???
Mr Magluvin :P
Mr Tesla :-* ;D :-*
Mr Nobody 8) :-X:' :-X( 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 07, 2011, 04:25:24 AM

just visiting ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on June 07, 2011, 08:12:30 AM

Welcome Visiter!
Where I come from we bring a little "Snack" or a treat when we go visiting........
Maybe even a nice "recipe", Do you have any nice recipes
to share??

Thanks
Have a nice day!
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on June 07, 2011, 09:38:35 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM
Hi everyone 8)

Currently i am trying to amplify a small voltage into high voltage and its current from milliamps to amps now
Can somebody demonstrate amplify a 1.5 volts with its milliamps into high voltage and from milliamps to amps? ::)

Thank you. ;)

God bless
otits

Hi Tito.

use 3 joule thief's.

1st. for higher voltage.
2nd. for higher amps.
3rd. for power amplification of 1 and 2.

Jerry 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on June 07, 2011, 11:25:15 PM

Thanks Tito, I'll try to figure those tasty tidbits out ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 08, 2011, 03:32:44 AM

Quote from: ramset on June 07, 2011, 08:12:30 AM
Welcome Visiter!
Where I come from we bring a little "Snack" or a treat when we go visiting........
Maybe even a nice "recipe", Do you have any nice recipes
to share??

Thanks
Have a nice day!
Chet

oh :o it seems that no one got the first message that i wrote, before i write the "Just visiting ;D"
sorry chet i change my mind and erased it, cause i always felt hurt before ;D

NO ONE IS LUCKY THAT DAY. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 08, 2011, 03:36:44 AM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on June 07, 2011, 09:38:35 AM
Hi Tito.

use 3 joule thief's.

1st. for higher voltage.
2nd. for higher amps.
3rd. for power amplification of 1 and 2.

Jerry 8)

i have solved that problem a long time ago already and i didn't used those complicated joule thiefs.
cause a matter of coil and caps and blank will do the job for that 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 08, 2011, 03:55:32 AM

Tips: Actually i first try to heat one bullet in two birds and i try also three but you know what? we can actually heat unlimited birds in one bullet!, its always depends in the design. remember that everyone 8)

And cascade toroids are really great!!!! 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 08, 2011, 04:12:25 AM

and you know what?

the moment a source is connected or closed circuit, the thing is it has an effect of pushing and not flowing of electron. 8)

and that moment of closed then the voltage is more than a speed of light and the electrons are speed of sound, but when it is on, the lights of electron and or the magnetic field of every electrons are active. and that's we extremely really need for magnification.

I think thats ok now chet, happy eating ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 08, 2011, 04:27:56 AM

Hi everyone

i have a question? can we not make a uranium battery ? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on June 08, 2011, 05:30:54 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 08, 2011, 04:27:56 AM
Hi everyone

i have a question? can we not make a uranium battery ? ;D

we can and have... radioisotope thermoelectric generators (rtg's) have been around for quite some time. uranium wouldn't be the most popular choice though. plutonium-238 and strontium-90 hold sway at the moment. polonium-210 has amazing power density possibilities but that also creates some cooling issues.

my personal favorite is americium-241. easy (approximately 18mm of lead) to shield, and easy to obtain from most every smoke detector. albeit the power density is a quarter that of pu-238, you can (and i have) power a load with them. as far as i am concerned, from my perspective, it is as perpetual as i need being the half-life is 432 years... ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on June 08, 2011, 06:35:27 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on June 08, 2011, 05:30:54 AM
we can and have... radioisotope thermoelectric generators (rtg's) have been around for quite some time. uranium wouldn't be the most popular choice though. plutonium-238 and strontium-90 hold sway at the moment. polonium-210 has amazing power density possibilities but that also creates some cooling issues.

my personal favorite is americium-241. easy (approximately 18mm of lead) to shield, and easy to obtain from most every smoke detector. albeit the power density is a quarter that of pu-238, you can (and i have) power a load with them. as far as i am concerned, from my perspective, it is as perpetual as i need being the half-life is 432 years... ;)

Americuim came up more than once in our earth battery experiments topic. There is no telling what we could do with some of that.

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 08, 2011, 08:08:01 AM

"During the last thirty-two years these tubes have been made veritable marvels of mechanical perfection, but
while helpful in many ways they have drawn the experts away from the simpler and much superior arrangement
which I attempted to introduce in 1901. My plans involved the use of a highly effective and efficient transmitter
conveying to any receiver at whatever distance, a relatively large amount of energy. The receiver is itself a device
of elementary simplicity partaking of the characteristics of the ear, except that it is immensely more sensitive. In
such a system resonant amplification is the only one necessary and the selectivity is so great that any desired
number of separate channels can be provided without going to waves shorter than a few meters"

Nikola Tesla

Oh, boy ; if I could be less lazy and less ill and have money and help :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 10, 2011, 01:58:54 AM

gooooooood ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 10, 2011, 08:37:32 AM

I need help. How can I compute time required to store required amount of energy in magnetic field of choke ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on June 10, 2011, 02:23:34 PM

Quote from: forest on June 10, 2011, 08:37:32 AM
I need help. How can I compute time required to store required amount of energy in magnetic field of choke ?

Do some searches on magnetic flux. You may find some equations.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 10, 2011, 03:03:16 PM

Quote from: MrMag on June 10, 2011, 02:23:34 PM
Do some searches on magnetic flux. You may find some equations.

Well,I found E=LI^2/2 but it's static equation of energy in magnetic field . I know that current through coil do not rise immediately to I but if that time is dependant on capacitance or LCR then I'm fine with that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on June 10, 2011, 08:48:54 PM

Quote from: forest on June 10, 2011, 03:03:16 PM
Well,I found E=LI^2/2 but it's static equation of energy in magnetic field . I know that current through coil do not rise immediately to I but if that time is dependant on capacitance or LCR then I'm fine with that.

Maybe this link can help; it's just basics, but I think, we need some basics sometimes. http://www.lightandmatter.com/html_books/lm/ch25/ch25.html See the sections named "Inductors" and "Oscillations".

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on June 12, 2011, 07:44:46 AM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on June 07, 2011, 09:38:35 AM
use 3 joule thief's.

1st. for higher voltage.
2nd. for higher amps.
3rd. for power amplification of 1 and 2.

Jerry 8)

1st makes sense.
2nd make no sense at all. how does one 'use' a joule thief for "higher amps"?
3rd ditto. how does one 'use' a joule thief for power amplification of 1 and 2?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 28, 2011, 10:19:57 PM

good day everyone and nice to see you again ;D

i want you to see this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzEK5eODr6I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvBeCCjb9ds&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mFyiYh94YE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhynSkFlJOs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0H7zMRgYAw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8-t6_y-AIQ&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq4fAq-9sX8&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vznHf3MU1Oo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC5zT4SVpTA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAkxGewk2gc
Enjoy ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on July 29, 2011, 10:07:51 AM

Tito
I will watch your movies [even though I have no sound]
Can you watch this one ?

From Member Pinoy

http://filipinoinventorssociety.com/main/images/stories/pdf/INVR.%2022%20REJUSO.pdf

The most interesting is the Water Spray Powered Machine which are used now in some remote areas in Phil.. Few moist of water & some sort of metal scrap, power will generate for 2 weeks?

http://zeroelectricity.info/tubig-powered-machine/

http://thirdworldgeek.com/water-powered-machine/

----------
This is from your part of the world, any idea on How it works?

Thanks
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on July 29, 2011, 05:00:59 PM

Quote from: ramset on July 29, 2011, 10:07:51 AM

...This is from your part of the world, any idea on How it works?...

Knowing their (i.e. Ismael Aviso, Tito) talent to convince the world that what they reveal is very essential, (in fact, the really essential part(s) they are going never to reveal), there is little hope this invention is going to be revealed soon, if even ever. By "their" I mean people of the so-called "poor countries". Of course only they are convinced that they convince the world.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 29, 2011, 09:48:18 PM

its just a special metal from a junk shop accidentally urinated by a child and gave off strong reaction from urine or liquid. ;D

tip : try to urinate different kinds of metal and test it with ohm meter ;D :D

did you saw my fellowmen? we really have the solution isn't it? ;D

they did not yet saw mine. miniturising energy source ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on July 29, 2011, 10:37:06 PM

Hillarious Tito....you are entirely full of shit.

Ramset, what makes more sense to you...the fact that the Phillipines is second only to Nigeria when it comes to technology scams because 1) It is a desperate, poverty stricken cesspit and 2) It's population is very uneductated, OR DESPITE these facts, IF you are to believe internet nonsense (and Tito's drivel), this poor uneducated people seem to keep coming up with OU/FE solutions???

LMAO

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on July 29, 2011, 11:16:40 PM

Mr.Goose
So your not buyin the poor little boy pisses OU story?

Sigh...................

There are sooo many things I would like to say to Tito......
But I won't!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 29, 2011, 11:20:28 PM

Quote from: ElectricGoose on July 29, 2011, 10:37:06 PM
Hillarious Tito....you are entirely full of shit.

indeed... as are you...

Quote from: ElectricGoose on December 08, 2010, 04:16:43 AM
OK I have had enough. As someone who KNOWS how an OU device works I am just going to come out and say it.

notice how he (the gooser) never reveals how an OU device works??? just like teets... birds of a feather.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on July 30, 2011, 02:00:00 AM

Aww poor Wilby....I told you to not be bitter man. Not good for your health. LOL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on July 30, 2011, 02:06:52 AM

Quote from: ramset on July 29, 2011, 11:16:40 PM
Mr.Goose
So your not buyin the poor little boy pisses OU story?

Sigh...................

Chet

Oh yehhh Chet :D

and if I hang on to my weeties for a few days rather than hitting the outhouse....I also crap pure coal that is good for 100 miles to the ounce on a gasifier. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 30, 2011, 03:19:01 AM

Quote from: ElectricGoose on July 30, 2011, 02:00:00 AM
Aww poor Wilby....I told you to not be bitter man. Not good for your health. LOL

hilarious goose... you are entirely full of shit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 30, 2011, 09:09:19 AM

overunity begin with this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPOMNo5uITc&feature=related

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on July 30, 2011, 09:31:38 AM

Forest
Yes The Bang........

On another note, Why's the Boss [Stefan] got a naked Blonde in a plexi box
up on the front page Movie?? [I know I can't be seeing things]

Is that the 2nd OU??
The sound doesn't work On My computor,Does he explain how she works?
Did Finsrud build her?
Is There a PDF??
Will he make another one?
Finsruds Kinky! [or he doesn't like free range Blondes]

Chet
PS
I'm not kidding about the girl ,She's really there, just watch more of the movie you'll see her.
Stefan Zooms in on her face [#%*] pretending that 's what he's looking at
so his girlfriend doesn't punch him!

Oh And Teets
Don't watch the movie ,you don't need to see this one [%$&#]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 30, 2011, 02:49:14 PM

ramset,

I'm not kidding, I really believe in crash analogy. If you look and think about Tesla harpin circuit and how he powered it , he really did it that way ! I can find many more analogies : like fly-swatter. Why is that hard to slap fly with hand but much easier with fly-swapper ? Simple. Freely oscillating things abruptly stopped release inertia sound-like waves. Like earth-quake...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on July 30, 2011, 03:26:10 PM

Forest
Sorry I had just seen the Naked Blonde in the glass cage ,It made me stupid
[Stupider] My head almost exploded [then I realized it was my wife slapping me in the Head for looking at the girl]

Yes The crash

Your Preachin to the choir ,I absolutely believe a crash can make OU
Nature tells us so............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc

Chet
PS
Forest ,Nature has another much nicer present for us over here

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10840.0

No crashing and bashing ,just nice mechanical OUT OF CONTROL
Rotation.

A spinning Magnetic Sphere
Just like the 3rd rock from the sun it goes on and on and on.............

Chet
PPS
Not you Teets You can stay here creepo

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 03, 2011, 03:54:57 AM

Quote from: ElectricGoose on July 29, 2011, 10:37:06 PM
Hillarious Tito....you are entirely full of shit.

Ramset, what makes more sense to you...the fact that the Phillipines is second only to Nigeria when it comes to technology scams because 1) It is a desperate, poverty stricken cesspit and 2) It's population is very uneductated, OR DESPITE these facts, IF you are to believe internet nonsense (and Tito's drivel), this poor uneducated people seem to keep coming up with OU/FE solutions???

LMAO

;D :D

Here we are again buddy i'm now controlling my anger ok .

i think you better stop qwek qwek qwek. ;D

by the way your rank is full member, it must be full of @#$#%$$%^%^% ;D ;D ;D ;D :D ;)

@ramset
what do you want to say buddy, i'm little interested with your surprise. ::) :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 03, 2011, 04:00:23 PM

Tito

Counting by the rank value ramset should have 100 Ou devices, me 50 and you 10 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 04, 2011, 03:58:51 AM

Quote from: forest on August 03, 2011, 04:00:23 PM
Tito

Counting by the rank value ramset should have 100 Ou devices, me 50 and you 10 ;D ;D ;D

your wrong forest! i should be at 5 but i have the real thing ;D lol

and (EG) should be at 200 and none but qwek qwek ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 04, 2011, 04:55:10 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 04, 2011, 03:58:51 AM
your wrong forest! i should be at 5 but i have the real thing ;D lol

and (EG) should be at 200 and none but qwek qwek ;D

just kidding
I have 6 ..not working ;D :D mostly because of diodes, can't find any good
also making mechanical switch with hand tools from scrap parts is almost impossible. I'd like to know how to make a good cylinder with two copper contacts (connected) balanced for high speed to be attached to my small 12V 2A motor (up to 5000rpm probably). Anybody ? What I have done is using wood cylinder and copper cap from plumbing shop, tied together with a resin and polished but it looks ugly and has too much vibrations due to not balanced momentum.Almost damaged my motor by perpendicular vibrations of shaft. :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 04, 2011, 05:18:07 AM

Quote from: forest on August 04, 2011, 04:55:10 AM
just kidding
I have 6 ..not working ;D :D mostly because of diodes, can't find any good
also making mechanical switch with hand tools from scrap parts is almost impossible. I'd like to know how to make a good cylinder with two copper contacts (connected) balanced for high speed to be attached to my small 12V 2A motor (up to 5000rpm probably). Anybody ? What I have done is using wood cylinder and copper cap from plumbing shop, tied together with a resin and polished but it looks ugly and has too much vibrations due to not balanced momentum.Almost damaged my motor by perpendicular vibrations of shaft. :'(

hi buddy, i would like to share about how my mechanical switch is done,

i actually using a plastic fastener from my children and beg him to give it to me ;D
and it perfectly works for my bedini version. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 06, 2011, 04:32:07 AM

ok!

study the first and one kick ;)

and kick is really a kick!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 06, 2011, 02:18:57 PM

Tito, my friend
please define "kick"

when I strike metal bell with hammer , is that a 'kick' ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on August 07, 2011, 02:42:32 AM

This "kick" business sounds like IST's postings.

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on August 07, 2011, 04:03:11 AM

Forest
Quote:

Tito, my friend
please define "kick"

when I strike metal bell with hammer , is that a 'kick' ?
-------------------------------

Silly boy, that's a bell ,that would "Ring" [another 1st thing]

A Kick needs a Foot ..

Tito wheres the foot??

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 07, 2011, 04:32:05 AM

ramset

I want Tito to comment, he knows it best, because he has a working device.
However IMHO I know how 'kick' is produced and how it is felt.
There is always a bell and hammer(or foot - it's the same). Yes, there is "ring" when you strike bell, this is not a kick but very close.
I will tell you how you can produce 'kick' let Tito confirm ....
Take a big bell of course handing freely, strike with foot then later hold bell very tight immediately. Wht you feel going through your body is 'kick'...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on August 07, 2011, 08:44:57 AM

Sorry For interrupting Forrest!

Sometimes I like Tito................ ,
And sometimes I want to 'Kick' him in the Pants,and Squeeze him real tight!! ;D

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on August 07, 2011, 05:46:40 PM

Quote from: ramset on August 07, 2011, 08:44:57 AM
Sorry For interrupting Forrest!

Sometimes I like Tito................ ,
And sometimes I want to 'Kick' him in the Pants,and Squeeze him real tight!! ;D

Chet

LMAO

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 07, 2011, 10:17:36 PM

Kick is an after effect, and making it more stronger if you break at the peak , but of course it always depend on how you made the coil that is kicking right? and how efficient the starting you made.

AND OF COURSE A CAP HAS A MAJOR ROLE ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 10, 2011, 04:19:11 AM

Quote from: ramset on August 07, 2011, 08:44:57 AM
Sorry For interrupting Forrest!

Sometimes I like Tito................ ,
And sometimes I want to 'Kick' him in the Pants,and Squeeze him real tight!! ;D

Chet

OHHHHH HOW SWEET YOU ARE, I THINK YOU ARE COUSIN OF FLOYD SWEET :D LOL ;D

IN ONE RINGING THE BELL, IT PRODUCES KICK WHEN IT STARTS TO VIBRATE, THE FIRST APPLIED OF FORCE MAKES A LOT OF FREE ENERGY OR A LOT OF EXCESS KICK, THAT'S WHY THEN IF WE CAN COLLECT ALL OF THOSE VIBRATION THEN WE HAVE A LOT STANDBY ENERGY READY TO USE OK? ;D

TAKE NOTE: IN ONE APPLIED OF VERY FAST ENERGY.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 10, 2011, 04:30:59 AM

Quote from: TEKTRON on August 07, 2011, 05:46:40 PM
LMAO

WHAT IS LMAO?, LIKE MY ALL ODOR :D ;D

OHHHHH, HOW SOUR YOU TOO ;D

I LOVE SWEET AND SOUR, WHAT A CO-ACCIDENTS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 10, 2011, 04:41:17 AM

Quote from: ramset on August 07, 2011, 04:03:11 AM
Forest
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Tito, my friend
please define "kick"

when I strike metal bell with hammer , is that a 'kick' ?
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Silly boy, that's a bell ,that would "Ring" [another 1st thing]

A Kick needs a Foot ..

Tito wheres the foot??

Chet

THE FOOT IS IN UNDER YOUR TOOTH => ;D 8) <= SEE

IN ARMY WHEN YOU APPLIED A SINGLE BULLET TO THE OPPONENT THEN THEY MAKE BACK FIRE THEN THAT IS A KICK!

OF COURSE IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY OPPONENT THAT WILL MAKE A RETURN KICK AND DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY ARE CARRYING, SOMETIMES THERE IS A GRENADE ;D

GET A STONE AND THROW IT ON THE WATER AND YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF RETURNING CIRCLE KICK, STUDY THEM

TAKE NOTE: ONLY IN ONE STONE;)

DO YOU KNOW THAT A TSUNAMI IS A ONE BIG KICK with full of energy :)

AND
kicking your ass is not a kick and if you look closely to your ass then it 'll turn into red and that's your ass try to make some kickback, but it cannot do it cause it doesn't have a foot you silly silly boy that's your ass ringing!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D hahahahhaha lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Now i think you know now how kick is produce, they start from your ass hole ;D ;D ;D joke hahahahahahhha you really make me happy chet ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on August 10, 2011, 06:54:12 AM

Teets
You wrote some funny stuff...
Very good ;D
Its good to laugh, Help me get my refridgerator running on a watch battery and I'll laugh a lot more [happy laugh]
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My daughter had a little girl a few days ago [made me very happy].
So small ,tiny ,sweet [well she's not feeling so sweet now .lots a screaming] :o

Any how Teets ,Everybody should get to be a grandpa when they get older ,wakes you up to what really matters...............

Its like a good kick in the pants!
Its waking me up Teets!!

Chet
PS
Tito
The souls in Somalia burden me,12,000.000.00 people that could use a drink of water ,surrounded by an ocean.
You could help change that Tito ,And I would help you..........
[along with many others]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on August 10, 2011, 02:12:26 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 10, 2011, 04:30:59 AM
WHAT IS LMAO?, LIKE MY ALL ODOR :D ;D

OHHHHH, HOW SOUR YOU TOO ;D

I LOVE SWEET AND SOUR, WHAT A CO-ACCIDENTS ;D

Just sittin here Laughing My Ass Off ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pix on August 10, 2011, 03:56:12 PM

@ Tito,
Hi, it is just like Tesla stated " create discharge and make use from damped oscillations".
You kick one time, and harvest oscillation in resonant circuit for long time.
Like hitting a bell once, it rings during some period of time. The bigger a bell, tle longer a ringing sound. Bell is analog to inductance, capacitor discharge is analog to small hammer hitting a bell.Tesla always stated, to use big inductance and small capacitor. Spark discharge is like going around Lenz law. There is no counter force from small stone thrown by a slingshot when it hits a target.Target is far away from shooter, and any counter EMF created by target harvesting coil has no effect on circuit with spark gap, because it is open. When kid throws a stone by slingshot-it is like capacitor discharges through spark gap- electric charge from capacitor is on the final hit transformed to magnetic field at harvesting coil.There is no effect from bell ringing on the slingshot rubber (capacitor).
Also loose coupling of windings is like sfooting a bell from a distance. If slingshot is away from bell, and microphones are close to the bell, you harvest and transfer its sound into electricity.
And when you keep throwing small stones onto bell at interwals that match it's own resonance- them mamma mia.....

Regards,
pix

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 10, 2011, 10:03:52 PM

Quote from: pix on August 10, 2011, 03:56:12 PM
@ Tito,
Hi, it is just like Tesla stated " create discharge and make use from damped oscillations".
You kick one time, and harvest oscillation in resonant circuit for long time.
Like hitting a bell once, it rings during some period of time. The bigger a bell, tle longer a ringing sound. Bell is analog to inductance, capacitor discharge is analog to small hammer hitting a bell.Tesla always stated, to use big inductance and small capacitor. Spark discharge is like going around Lenz law. There is no counter force from small stone thrown by a slingshot when it hits a target.Target is far away from shooter, and any counter EMF created by target harvesting coil has no effect on circuit with spark gap, because it is open. When kid throws a stone by slingshot-it is like capacitor discharges through spark gap- electric charge from capacitor is on the final hit transformed to magnetic field at harvesting coil.There is no effect from bell ringing on the slingshot rubber (capacitor).
Also loose coupling of windings is like sfooting a bell from a distance. If slingshot is away from bell, and microphones are close to the bell, you harvest and transfer its sound into electricity.
And when you keep throwing small stones onto bell at interwals that match it's own resonance- them mamma mia.....

Regards,
pix

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: kooler on August 10, 2011, 10:23:37 PM

Quote from: TEKTRON on August 10, 2011, 02:12:26 PM
Just sittin here Laughing My Ass Off ;D ;D ;D

i have been away to long.. you guys are having to much fun without me..
are you sure lmao doesn't mean (lick my ass oracion) :-*

captain bill may delete my post if needed..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 11, 2011, 12:28:59 AM

Quote from: kooler on August 10, 2011, 10:23:37 PM
i have been away to long.. you guys are having to much fun without me..
are you sure lmao doesn't mean (lick my ass oracion) :-*

captain bill may delete my post if needed..

hahahahahhahahahaha :D sure manure ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 11, 2011, 12:30:46 AM

Quote from: pix on August 10, 2011, 03:56:12 PM
@ Tito,
Hi, it is just like Tesla stated " create discharge and make use from damped oscillations".
You kick one time, and harvest oscillation in resonant circuit for long time.
Like hitting a bell once, it rings during some period of time. The bigger a bell, tle longer a ringing sound. Bell is analog to inductance, capacitor discharge is analog to small hammer hitting a bell.Tesla always stated, to use big inductance and small capacitor. Spark discharge is like going around Lenz law. There is no counter force from small stone thrown by a slingshot when it hits a target.Target is far away from shooter, and any counter EMF created by target harvesting coil has no effect on circuit with spark gap, because it is open. When kid throws a stone by slingshot-it is like capacitor discharges through spark gap- electric charge from capacitor is on the final hit transformed to magnetic field at harvesting coil.There is no effect from bell ringing on the slingshot rubber (capacitor).
Also loose coupling of windings is like sfooting a bell from a distance. If slingshot is away from bell, and microphones are close to the bell, you harvest and transfer its sound into electricity.
And when you keep throwing small stones onto bell at interwals that match it's own resonance- them mamma mia.....

Regards,
pix

No! it is not tesla stated, it is Titus stated! haHAhahahahahah :D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 11, 2011, 09:12:42 AM

Quote from: pix on August 10, 2011, 03:56:12 PM
@ Tito,
Hi, it is just like Tesla stated " create discharge and make use from damped oscillations".
You kick one time, and harvest oscillation in resonant circuit for long time.
Like hitting a bell once, it rings during some period of time. The bigger a bell, tle longer a ringing sound. Bell is analog to inductance, capacitor discharge is analog to small hammer hitting a bell.Tesla always stated, to use big inductance and small capacitor. Spark discharge is like going around Lenz law. There is no counter force from small stone thrown by a slingshot when it hits a target.Target is far away from shooter, and any counter EMF created by target harvesting coil has no effect on circuit with spark gap, because it is open. When kid throws a stone by slingshot-it is like capacitor discharges through spark gap- electric charge from capacitor is on the final hit transformed to magnetic field at harvesting coil.There is no effect from bell ringing on the slingshot rubber (capacitor).
Also loose coupling of windings is like sfooting a bell from a distance. If slingshot is away from bell, and microphones are close to the bell, you harvest and transfer its sound into electricity.
And when you keep throwing small stones onto bell at interwals that match it's own resonance- them mamma mia.....

Regards,
pix

Your post made a lot of sense to me, I pasted it to this thread, http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/8480-harvesting-energy-sun-using-crystals-10.html#post151139

Tito you may want to look into this as I believe you stated you sell ice for a living

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 13, 2011, 05:36:48 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 11, 2011, 09:12:42 AM
Your post made a lot of sense to me, I pasted it to this thread, http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/8480-harvesting-energy-sun-using-crystals-10.html#post151139

Tito you may want to look into this as I believe you stated you sell ice for a living

hmmm, and maybe it is possible to make ice instantly and fast, that's possible thank you ;)

i think we have to scruitinize the peltier cooler, i believe it has a relationship with this one ;)

making ice instantly is different from waiting 1-3 hours isn't it? ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on August 13, 2011, 10:00:29 AM

TEETS
So what do you think?? A REAL MAN ,doing the right thing!!

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=11303.msg297801#new

A lot for you to think about Now ??

Creepo.................

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 13, 2011, 10:14:44 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 13, 2011, 05:36:48 AM
hmmm, and maybe it is possible to make ice instantly and fast, that's possible thank you ;)

i think we have to scruitinize the peltier cooler, i believe it has a relationship with this one ;)

making ice instantly is different from waiting 1-3 hours isn't it? ;)

Tito are you using a peltier cooler

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 15, 2011, 11:40:01 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 13, 2011, 10:14:44 AM
Tito are you using a peltier cooler

No, i'm just making some wild thinking ;)

@chet
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
:-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 12, 2011, 08:50:23 PM

Hi everyone good day!!!

hope that everyone is in good health, i just want you to know that God is good cause last week i experience near death, a severe asthma attack me and one week of very difficult to breath is what i experience but God gave me another life to enjoy so God is really good.

i just realized how life is sooooow fragile that anytime any moment God can get it.

i got to rush in hospital for 2 days and i have to go out earlier cause i'm out of money to stay in the hospital and now i am recovering well. Thank you Lord JESUS.

Now, i think its time to release what i do really have and i am not denying that i need really some financial support cause my mother is having a dialysis twice a week i am desperately need money sir.

if somebody can buy it for 3 million dollar or better more than this prize then i will release it. and i'm serious to it.

now, what my tech can do if somebody may ask.

it can do tpu, hendershot tech, hubbard tech, bedini tech and meg. they are all in one method.

i am accepting any comment good or bad. but i prefer good
please no more childish thinking okay i'm serious. now i am giving the world a chance for this tech!!!

note: it can do any watts you want.

sincerely yours
otits L. noicaro

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: highvoltage on September 12, 2011, 09:13:21 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 12, 2011, 08:50:23 PM
Hi everyone good day!!!

hope that everyone is in good health, i just want you to know that God is good cause last week i experience near death, a severe asthma attack me and one week of very difficult to breath is what i experience but God gave me another life to enjoy so God is really good.

i just realized how life is sooooow fragile that anytime any moment God can get it.

i got to rush in hospital for 2 days and i have to go out earlier cause i'm out of money to stay in the hospital and now i am recovering well. Thank you Lord JESUS.

Now, i think its time to release what i do really have and i am not denying that i need really some financial support cause my mother is having a dialysis twice a week i am desperately need money sir.

if somebody can buy it for 3 million dollar or better more than this prize then i will release it. and i'm serious to it.

now, what my tech can do if somebody may ask.

it can do tpu, hendershot tech, hubbard tech, bedini tech and meg. they are all in one method.

i am accepting any comment good or bad. but i prefer good
please no more childish thinking okay i'm serious. now i am giving the world a chance for this tech!!!

note: it can do any watts you want.

sincerely yours
otits L. noicaro

Tito = Conman Fraudster

"Boohoo, everyone in my family is sick and my mother is dying, I had near death experience, (lie lie lie) and I love Jesus" Next breath - I will 'give' it for 3 million". Proof? A bunch of name dropping. That's not proof Tito!

If you have OU (and you don't) you dont need to beg and wail some Nigerian con story at a forum. There are plenty of companies that would grant you 40 million just to look at it after proper due dilligence.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 12, 2011, 09:51:29 PM

Hey Tito

Sorry to hear about the bad stuff. Hope things get better, and Ill pray. Its the best medicine. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 12, 2011, 10:54:52 PM

Quote from: highvoltage on September 12, 2011, 09:13:21 PM
Tito = Conman Fraudster

"Boohoo, everyone in my family is sick and my mother is dying, I had near death experience, (lie lie lie) and I love Jesus" Next breath - I will 'give' it for 3 million". Proof? A bunch of name dropping. That's not proof Tito!

If you have OU (and you don't) you dont need to beg and wail some Nigerian con story at a forum. There are plenty of companies that would grant you 40 million just to look at it after proper due dilligence.

I understand why you are acting like that buddy i made you that way and i am sorry bro. anyway thank you for the info you gave i appreciate it. don't worry i will show many proof this month, but i am thinking if it is safe, but i will try don't worry. :)

@ mags
Thank you buddy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: highvoltage on September 13, 2011, 02:23:58 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 12, 2011, 10:54:52 PM
. don't worry i will show many proof this month, but i am thinking if it is safe, but i will try don't worry. :)

Tito

Stop talking about "safe" and being afraid for you or your family. These are all petty excuses to hide the fact that you have been pretending all along.
There is no conspiracy.
There are no men in black.
Get over it already and stop watching too much TV.

@anyone (including Tito) - you think that you are 'safe' now after posting every day here thousands of times????? IF there were men in black and you had OU and they could give a damn about you, they would have traced you a long time ago in a split second.
However, you are a just a little petty ice seller living in the Phillipines trying to make himself a bit bigger by rehashing internet crap and spinning it as your own.

Sure Tito sure, tell some more lies, spin some more excuses!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 13, 2011, 05:10:26 AM

Tito

Sad to hear that. I would like to help you but frankly I'm peniless :'( , over year without job.
I have a dream man - a small fabric producing your Kapanadze, maybe mine devices. And at Saturday we would meet together at dinner talking about free energy and new concepts to save the world.
That would be something ! And I'm not sarcastic !

God bless You!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 13, 2011, 07:35:35 PM

Quote from: highvoltage on September 13, 2011, 02:23:58 AM
Tito

Stop talking about "safe" and being afraid for you or your family. These are all petty excuses to hide the fact that you have been pretending all along.
There is no conspiracy.
There are no men in black.
Get over it already and stop watching too much TV.

@anyone (including Tito) - you think that you are 'safe' now after posting every day here thousands of times????? IF there were men in black and you had OU and they could give a damn about you, they would have traced you a long time ago in a split second.
However, you are a just a little petty ice seller living in the Phillipines trying to make himself a bit bigger by rehashing internet crap and spinning it as your own.

Sure Tito sure, tell some more lies, spin some more excuses!

please sir, i don't want bad discussion anymore please, everybody here knows me already okay and i'm graduate to that, stop that please, if proof is the thing that makes you stop then you wait and i'll do that for you.

It seems that you were just born yesterday, and it seems that in your conclusion is that you are perfectly sure about me and not sure about the evidence of yesterday, got that you brilliant one. it comes something to me that you are very affected, i have a suspect that you are one of them, well that is just my guess. ;)

@forest
thank you buddy its okay.
i believe you know the secret already since my fellowmen aviso showed an important secret which is the same as mine and i am congratulate you for that. :)
i believe you absorbed what aviso taught in his partial revelation. cheers ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on September 13, 2011, 10:29:25 PM

What I know for sure, it must resemble a snowball. Maybe not just Forest knows the secret, maybe many more of us know it. We only don't know the configuration. And despite Aviso gave us some hints, we still don't know which hint is the one and how to use it in practice.
If you, Tito, need a financial help, let me know a bank account where I could donate you some money. I can't pay you three million dollars, but for my donation I don't want anything in an exchange. I believe there still are people visiting this site, who can donate. I'm recently on a Disability Benefit program but still in a need to help others.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on September 14, 2011, 02:44:31 PM

as i already say, there is always infinite ways how look at same situation, for example Tito.... your god is trying to open your eyes by manny ways as you write, also by very radical ways, but you still keep your ilusion alive. You just like to believe in things what you build in you mind, not use things, just believe in it. Just live betwen borders which build yourself.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 14, 2011, 07:37:47 PM

Quote from: IWD on September 14, 2011, 02:44:31 PM
as i already say, there is always infinite ways how look at same situation, for example Tito.... your god is trying to open your eyes by manny ways as you write, also by very radical ways, but you still keep your ilusion alive. You just like to believe in things what you build in you mind, not use things, just believe in it. Just live betwen borders which build yourself.

No sir, free energy is real its not an illusion, real energy from its vicinity, from nothing its truth!.

i actually discover two important method how to make free energy from AC and DC and its real and i found out that pulse DC is the best, Well that is just for my experience.

God open my eyes to repent for all bad things that i learned here, and for everyone that i made them angry with me. i am very willing to share what i discover but it just so happen that i am in need of money.

even the air we breathe is free the sunlight is free etc, a lot of things is free we just need to squeeze it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on September 14, 2011, 09:13:38 PM

QuoteNo, i'm just making some wild thinking

Hey Tito,
Your wild thinking about heating and cooling is close to some of what Gerry Vassilatos said about Tesla's work with cold electricity and the heating and/or cooling effects it could have on a room. Anyway hermano, take your time disclosing - lots of others have made lots of discoveries, and you won't be the first or the last. It's gotta be the right time for you to share as much (or not) as your heart tells you. Family first - we all have to look after those we love. Glad to hear you're alive and feeling better.
JMJ
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 14, 2011, 09:40:55 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on September 14, 2011, 09:13:38 PM
Hey Tito,
Your wild thinking about heating and cooling is close to some of what Gerry Vassilatos said about Tesla's work with cold electricity and the heating and/or cooling effects it could have on a room. Anyway hermano, take your time disclosing - lots of others have made lots of discoveries, and you won't be the first or the last. It's gotta be the right time for you to share as much (or not) as your heart tells you. Family first - we all have to look after those we love. Glad to hear you're alive and feeling better.
JMJ
Bob

Yes, Thanks bob :)

makes my heart energize when i read this kind of message.

Free energy is really a very simple and it is REAL, i'm not joking everyone.

The method i discover can do all of those magnetic motors secret, all of those that making an output of 30thousand watts - 100 thousand watts! or much more

like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDFarLpkoGU

and this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DkDXvPpa6Q

and this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4qjZocje0c&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL9CBA21D5DBAEB5B2

and this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJuYieUPDwI

and this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoZJ2W7A6nc

these are all very simple i'm telling you its true.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on September 15, 2011, 11:06:08 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 14, 2011, 07:37:47 PM
No sir, free energy is real its not an illusion, real energy from its vicinity, from nothing its truth!.

i actually discover two important method how to make free energy from AC and DC and its real and i found out that pulse DC is the best, Well that is just for my experience.

God open my eyes to repent for all bad things that i learned here, and for everyone that i made them angry with me. i am very willing to share what i discover but it just so happen that i am in need of money.

even the air we breathe is free the sunlight is free etc, a lot of things is free we just need to squeeze it.

I was not talking about free energy, this topic is long time ago not about free energy.
I was talking about you life way, about ilusion in which you live.
I do not care if you have or you do not have free energy device.
In both cases you act badly.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Hope on September 15, 2011, 05:31:41 PM

Quote from: allcanadian on February 07, 2009, 10:14:32 AM
@TitoWhat you are talking about are Watts, VA--- volt/amps or Watt/seconds, that is power moving over a given time frame. I would also think you would want to multiply power not amplify it, which would mean real power would need to enter your circuit from somewhere else adding to the energy already available.To understand how to generate excess power you need to understand every aspect of a circuit but more important what it is that is in the circuit. The circuit is a conduit for the motion of energy, this energy has qualities and properties related to it. My question has always been simple ----How can you build something you don't understand? How can you build a circuit utilizing electric and magnetic forces without first understanding what electricity and magnetism are in reality?. I think when you answer this question only then will you know how to build the device you desire. Think of it as the difference between having the ability to drive a car and having the ability to build one from scratch, LOL, they are definitely not the same thing.
Regards
AC

Hooray!!!! Excellent answer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Hope on September 15, 2011, 06:14:07 PM

You are worried about money right? Then win the prize money here at Overunity offered.

License us to build and sell and you can collect a per build fee.

This should fill your needs forever, AND you will be adding so much time to advance our humanity instead of slaving for just a few who already have this AND more technology shelved.

You and I believe in God, He will be happy when one of his freely given blessings that the adversary has hidden is blessing man again.

Think of all the time people use up not furthering their spiritual goals while working for their needs and BIG OILY greedy people.

Time is precious to those of us who have only a small time left. How much more could be accomplished to further projects that help humanity but are not cost effective due to energy costs. How many lives everyday you will save with the cooling or heating alone. How much water from the moisture in the air we could save millions of lives in Africa just now with. How much non-toxic air could be left unpolluted. How much food could be grown year round it energy wasn't a cost factor.

If you love God then can't you also love His children who are your spiritual brothers and sisters (we all) and help us now?

Sacrifice makes holes that will be filled by other things, ALWAYS good things. It is the law of sacrifice. It is of God and is for our benefit.
Trust God, he wants to see if you have a pure heart then he will give you blessings each time your gift to mankind helps even one of us.

Is this the Henderson file? : http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~noelh/Energy%20Suppression.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: highvoltage on September 15, 2011, 07:30:33 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 14, 2011, 09:40:55 PM
Yes, Thanks bob :)

makes my heart energize when i read this kind of message.

Free energy is really a very simple and it is REAL, i'm not joking everyone.

The method i discover can do all of those magnetic motors secret, all of those that making an output of 30thousand watts - 100 thousand watts! or much more

like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDFarLpkoGU

and this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DkDXvPpa6Q

and this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4qjZocje0c&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL9CBA21D5DBAEB5B2

and this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJuYieUPDwI

and this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoZJ2W7A6nc

these are all very simple i'm telling you its true.

Tito

For someone that SUPPOSEDLY knows the secret to OU you have just FAILED big time and I mean EPIC! It is very clear to me you do NOT know the principle of OU otherwise you would not have posted those youtube videos. Only a fool who knows nothing and is easily conned would think that those videos are the real deal.

Let me break this to you again so it sinks in to your head.
ALL of those videos you posted have long been PROVEN as either downright frauds OR at the very least mismeasurements of power (inaccurate conversion of the AC DC interpretation).

Lutec, Magnetec, Magniwork....NONE can run without a battery or primary input power source whilst in the same breath the 'inventors' claim 100x OU. IF there was that much OU, they could recirculate no problem!

Stop posting these nosensical youtube videos as your silly proof Tito. You are only showing what a dreamer you are. OR would you prefer everyone to think that you truly know the principle of OU and are purposely misleading them with erroneous rubbish that doesn't work???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on September 15, 2011, 09:46:46 PM

Well Tito, I always believed your setup was simple, and still do. Your setup involves discharging from caps into coils. We know that this rapid electrical discharge produces a voltage spike that draws in energy from the aether as the magnetic field very quickly collapses. Bearden and Bedini refer to this lots. Electromagnets in some inventors' setups seem to possess operate this way in order to produce cold electricity. Input electricity + cold electricity = surplus output that you can scale up by repeating the same thing all over until you get the level of power you want.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: energy1234hope on September 15, 2011, 10:00:09 PM

Hi tito
I wish you all the best and hope your health improves. I believe if you release your free energy secret to the world open source your name will go down in history and fame and fortune will follow very quickly with talk show hosts paying you thousands just to appear not to mention tv stations and the like,or you cold talk to professor Steven e jones on his ideas how to release it and make a lot of money at the same time he has mentioned this in his other post good luck with everything ron

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 15, 2011, 11:05:47 PM

Quote from: highvoltage on September 15, 2011, 07:30:33 PM
Tito

For someone that SUPPOSEDLY knows the secret to OU you have just FAILED big time and I mean EPIC! It is very clear to me you do NOT know the principle of OU otherwise you would not have posted those youtube videos. Only a fool who knows nothing and is easily conned would think that those videos are the real deal.

Let me break this to you again so it sinks in to your head.
ALL of those videos you posted have long been PROVEN as either downright frauds OR at the very least mismeasurements of power (inaccurate conversion of the AC DC interpretation).

Lutec, Magnetec, Magniwork....NONE can run without a battery or primary input power source whilst in the same breath the 'inventors' claim 100x OU. IF there was that much OU, they could recirculate no problem!

Stop posting these nosensical youtube videos as your silly proof Tito. You are only showing what a dreamer you are. OR would you prefer everyone to think that you truly know the principle of OU and are purposely misleading them with erroneous rubbish that doesn't work???

good day to you buddy

i always make my self calm and very peaceful talking now but the way you talk as if your an illiterate. sorry.

first of all i did not say that those videos are my proof ok!!!. just comparing THEM!!!

i think you know more than me in terms of principle about OU you are talking, but what i am is talking about is the effect i am experiencing, well really to tell you the truth i don't really know how to explain the thing i am experiencing but the effect is there, i just use battery as a starter and once everything is energize then it run by itself then everything is output. in that sense do we still needs some measurement if it is ou or free energy?

i think it is none sense talking to a close minded like you, you are wasting my time answering you, you don't know anything. and i believe you didn't see a real thing working device.

Yes i am a dreamer and that dream came to reality.

@ the world
Now, three million dollar is very small compare to change the world, as what i said i am giving the world a chance.
" I AM SERIOUS!!!!!!!!" THATS ALL I CAN DO, PERIOD.

IF STILL NO ONE WILL BELIEVE, THATS IT. I'LL JUST STOP. AND I'LL JUST USE IT BY MY OWN.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 15, 2011, 11:07:50 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on September 15, 2011, 09:46:46 PM
Well Tito, I always believed your setup was simple, and still do. Your setup involves discharging from caps into coils. We know that this rapid electrical discharge produces a voltage spike that draws in energy from the aether as the magnetic field very quickly collapses. Bearden and Bedini refer to this lots. Electromagnets in some inventors' setups seem to possess operate this way in order to produce cold electricity. Input electricity + cold electricity = surplus output that you can scale up by repeating the same thing all over until you get the level of power you want.

YOUR VERY CORRECT BOB :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 15, 2011, 11:22:43 PM

Quote from: Hope on September 15, 2011, 05:31:41 PM
Hooray!!!! Excellent answer.

I AM IS AN OBSOLETE COMPUTER PROGRAMMER GRADUATE ;D

AND WITH LITTLE EDISON STYLE TRIAL AND ERROR TECHNIQUE AND A LITTLE TESLA STYLE MAKING EXPERIMENT IN MY BRAIN. ;D BUT THAT WAS ME. ;D

ACTUALLY WE JUST NEED A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IN ELECTRONICS AND SOME LOGIC AND A LOT OF WEIRD EXPERIMENT THEN WE CAN MAKE IT RUN.

TESLA SAID VERY SIMPLE. THEN WHY THINKING VERY COMPLICATED?

always remember this: TESLA TECH IS ALWAYS BE THE SUPERIOR DESIGN ;).

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 15, 2011, 11:37:18 PM

Quote from: Hope on September 15, 2011, 06:14:07 PM
You are worried about money right? Then win the prize money here at Overunity offered.

License us to build and sell and you can collect a per build fee.

This should fill your needs forever, AND you will be adding so much time to advance our humanity instead of slaving for just a few who already have this AND more technology shelved.

You and I believe in God, He will be happy when one of his freely given blessings that the adversary has hidden is blessing man again.

Think of all the time people use up not furthering their spiritual goals while working for their needs and BIG OILY greedy people.

Time is precious to those of us who have only a small time left. How much more could be accomplished to further projects that help humanity but are not cost effective due to energy costs. How many lives everyday you will save with the cooling or heating alone. How much water from the moisture in the air we could save millions of lives in Africa just now with. How much non-toxic air could be left unpolluted. How much food could be grown year round it energy wasn't a cost factor.

If you love God then can't you also love His children who are your spiritual brothers and sisters (we all) and help us now?

Sacrifice makes holes that will be filled by other things, ALWAYS good things. It is the law of sacrifice. It is of God and is for our benefit.
Trust God, he wants to see if you have a pure heart then he will give you blessings each time your gift to mankind helps even one of us.

Is this the Henderson file? : http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~noelh/Energy%20Suppression.htm

The technology is very simple, that is the reason why many inventors and discoverer refuse to patent it, its an elementary style technology that even a balot vendor can do it !

BALOT VENDOR = it sells an egg. an egg that is being sell before or near to hatch. ;D

very funny actually hahahahahahahahahahha lol ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 15, 2011, 11:49:05 PM

Quote from: IWD on September 15, 2011, 11:06:08 AM
I was not talking about free energy, this topic is long time ago not about free energy.
I was talking about you life way, about ilusion in which you live.
I do not care if you have or you do not have free energy device.
In both cases you act badly.

i can't smell what you mean sorry. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 15, 2011, 11:54:57 PM

Tesla is really great, he always use it but he did not made a patent to it cause its just a common sense actually. sorry i'm not degrading anyone. its really simple tech but unlimited in its nature.

i actually wrote this secret in one of my post in this forum but everyone is unaware. i guess no one is luckily absorbed that one.

i think no one want to buy my tech, that's it, i'll just stop now, and this time its a serious goodbye everyone. :(

i am not going to reply anymore to any comment you post good or bad, you are all free now.
bye everyone :(

READ THE BIBLE AND STUDY IT CAREFULLY THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN FIND SALVATION OF YOUR SOUL THAT IS IMPORTANT THAN FREE ENERGY. LOVE YOU ALL BUDDY.

GOD BLESS
OTITS L NOICARO SIGNING OFF ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 16, 2011, 06:15:51 AM

Personally I don't understand why you all are so harrasing Tito. >:(
He was really trying to tell what he knew in the safe manner. Fortunately more people helped like Zilano from energeticforum or Mr Aviso

I would like to thank you Tito for your over 3 years trying ! You are my hero , also because I'm related to IT also (was programming and helping users with software; now unemployed)

I'm trying to build your device as I see it but it take me months because I have only basic hand tools (poor quality) and no money.

Guys, find the one and only schematic Tito draw initially - I believe this is the secret.

Tito, can you confirm that you simply make capacitor to be charged all the time ? Like that process:
a little charged capacitor - discharge -> little more charged capacitor -> discharge -> even more charged -> discharge -> fully charged -> discharge -> load attached -> discharge -> still fully charged capacitor -> discharge......

As you see it's basically snowball technic.Btw, is this capacitive version ? If so then maye inductive version would be without capacitor but with strange coils like bifilar ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 16, 2011, 12:01:26 PM

Forest
Tell Tito I will pray for him! And someday I hope we can Laugh about this?
But right now I think He's holding up Gods plan By holding out for money?

I actually believe there have been a lot of men like Tito in the past 100 years holding out for Money on the "Gift"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel this will usher in the new Millenium ,and I suppose no amount of Procrastination on the part of Tito could possibly stop that!

But he's like a monkey wrench in the works!!

Chetkremens@gmail.com

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: romerouk on September 16, 2011, 12:39:49 PM

@Tito L. Oracion
You are getting the same s--- I've got from few members on the forums.
No matter what you do, you won't make all people happy.
Take a break and relax, I am on your side and many others here are.

Best regards,
Romero

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 16, 2011, 01:17:53 PM

Perhaps if the suffering innocents had a voice here,that might have an opinion Too?

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: highvoltage on September 16, 2011, 07:53:13 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 15, 2011, 11:54:57 PM
, i'll just stop now, and this time its a serious goodbye everyone. :(

i am not going to reply anymore to any comment you post good or bad, you are all free now.
bye everyone :(

GOD BLESS
OTITS L NOICARO SIGNING OFF ;D

If only it would be true that he bugger off for good this time. He has promised the above countless times before and always comes back because he loves the attention.
Hope he stays away for good.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on September 17, 2011, 05:12:29 PM

FYI
http://www.ismaelwater.com/inventions.php
B ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on September 18, 2011, 07:20:57 PM

A very helpful related video, "Tesla's Little Secret" at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7NdxnjetSw
The comments on this video contain a few very helpful insights for putting together a useful apparatus.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on September 20, 2011, 03:05:26 AM

I paid an attention to this patent only regarding its title. It needs an evaluation of an expert (and I'm not the one) if it can be related to this thread theme search.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19820016542_1982016542.pdf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on September 20, 2011, 12:36:58 PM

Quote from: Qwert on September 20, 2011, 03:05:26 AM
I paid an attention to this patent only regarding its title. It needs an evaluation of an expert (and I'm not the one) if it can be related to this thread theme search.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19820016542_1982016542.pdf

@Qwert
This is a NASA research paper/report that's being blocked by this computer's organization's owner. Can you give the title of the patent or the number?

If I know those, I can get around the block on another site.

--Lee

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: BobQc on September 20, 2011, 01:12:31 PM

US Patent # 4275317 Pulse switching for high energy lasers

cheers
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on September 20, 2011, 01:53:09 PM

If somebody has difficulties to get this patent, I can place it on Rapidshare. Anyway I see no restrictions accompanied to this piece on NASA site or any place else.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on September 21, 2011, 02:04:47 PM

Quote from: Qwert on September 20, 2011, 01:53:09 PM
If somebody has difficulties to get this patent, I can place it on Rapidshare. Anyway I see no restrictions accompanied to this piece on NASA site or any place else.

@Qwert
You're right. That report is unclassified. I'm well aware of the NTRS server that's run by the Govt.

Here's the patent you referred to:

#4,275,317
"Pulse Switching for High Energy Lasers"
http://www.google.com/patents?id=G1w6AAAAEBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=patent:4275317&hl=en&ei=9yJ6TvnNMO3YiALnhs2qDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA
(Look at Fig. 1)

There's also this:
#4,707,619
"Saturable Inductor Switch and Pulse Compression Power Supply Employing the Switch"
http://www.google.com/patents?id=QlMyAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false
(Look at Figs. 1 & 4)

The thing they have in common is that they have what amounts to an upper and lower rail with saturable inductors in parallel to both. Additive magnetic amplification increasing away from the input, down the length of the rails, is what I believe the inventors/designers wanted to accomplish. If so, that's what the circuits should do before they're triggered.

Some of the reference Assignee agents/companies are defense contractors (Northrop is one), so this should be old news, since it's a public patent on the search database. I'm confident the latest circuits are classified, but we won't see them.

This is my OUR.com Bench thread devoted to patented circuits, voltage multipliers and power supplies along the lines of this subjects. Lots of different kinds of devices.

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1082.0
(Look at posted Reply #2)

--Lee

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on September 22, 2011, 01:11:42 AM

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on September 21, 2011, 02:04:47 PM

There's also this:
#4,707,619
"Saturable Inductor Switch and Pulse Compression Power Supply Employing the Switch"
http://www.google.com/patents?id=QlMyAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false
...
--Lee

Lee, the above patent lays out most implicitly that the N=windings would be the same on each stage of the toroids. BUT WHY??? What would happen if you doubled n=windings on each consecutive stage? Would this not only double the voltage and also current in each stage? I don't have the resources to try. Anyone want to give it a try? :o ;) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on September 24, 2011, 01:24:50 AM

Looks like Tito killed this thread. It's my try to revive it.
Why not to try to rummage Tito's posts and answers he received? In his last post Tito gave us a clue:

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 15, 2011, 11:54:57 PM
...
i actually wrote this secret in one of my post in this forum but everyone is unaware. i guess no one is luckily absorbed that one.
...

There is a post, to which Tito never refers later again. Only Magluvin responded to it, but I guess, he refers to somewhat wrong object. Here is the link to the post: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.msg265783#msg265783

and here is the link, which (I guess) the text of that post refers to (only seven pages pdf with some illustrations):
http://www.fluxite.com/WorkingRadiantEnergy.pdf

I am here to cheer up. This is the only useful thing I can do on this forum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on September 24, 2011, 09:15:37 AM

Hi folks, Hi Qwert, thanks for posting those links.
I seem to recall a video by the guy from magnacoaster, showing what looked like a dead 12 volt car battery, he then hooked this battery up to a small inverter and the inverters low voltage cutoff kicked in when he placed any load on the inverter.
Then he connected his, what i assume was a radiant charger device like Ossie C. describes in that pdf, to the dead battery and this time, the inverter is able to power all sorts of loads without the low voltage cutoff turning on.
Seems like both setups are very similar.
The question is, was magnacoasters 12 volt battery just discharged or was it completely sulphated like Ossie C. recommends.
These two device setups, magnacoaster and Ossie C. radiant collectors i think are genuine.
I also think those battery capacitor/ultra capacitors probably have very similar function to these dead or sulphated batteries and how they are able to convert these radiant energy pulses into usable excess energy.
peace love light
tyson

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 24, 2011, 10:47:45 AM

Because Tito is silent I think I posted proper explanation. yes, Ossie circuit and yes, first Tito schematic posted on ou.com back in 2008 year.And yes - it is magnacoaster setup minus magnets. Combining what Tito and Richard Willis explained I can say : make a discharge into a coil system then it bounces internally and comes out as a higher frequency higher amperage = higher power, or explaining from other point = dead batteries looks like fully charged all the time it is running and inverters are happy to take some juice.
Working on it, but I have a few more complex circuits to finish (and I'm slow). Will let you know later. Grumpy mechanical interrupter is the bad-ass problem >:( and all those resonances need to match which is not easy too....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 24, 2011, 10:51:57 AM

Batteries can explode but you can use big capacitors ;D Now I'm wondering how to protect capacitors from overcharge and explosion :o
Imagine big capacitor = snowball. got it ? = the more you discharge it the bigger snowball it become :o this is the first kind of ou secrets
do you want to hear others ? :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on September 24, 2011, 02:25:04 PM

Quote from: TEKTRON on September 22, 2011, 01:11:42 AM
Lee, the above patent lays out most implicitly that the N=windings would be the same on each stage of the toroids. BUT WHY???

The first paragraph of the patent should have indicated that the device was invented for "pulse compression", evidently of signals in a power supply. It wasn't designed as a set-up transformer.

Quote
What would happen if you doubled n=windings on each consecutive stage? Would this not only double the voltage and also current in each stage? I don't have the resources to try. Anyone want to give it a try? :o ;) ;)

To make this a step-up transformer one needs a primary coil to allow voltage transformation. TV flyback CRT transformers are often built with a series of secondary coils that're connected by diodes. They do actually need a primary coil to start the thing to step-up voltage.
Other than that, you have a point: Successive stages should step up voltage if the primaries are paralleled and the secondaries are wired in series. More individual transformers in series will spread out the volts/coil turn ratio and so reduce insulation stress from heat.

--Lee

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on September 24, 2011, 02:28:20 PM

Quote from: forest on September 24, 2011, 10:51:57 AM
Batteries can explode but you can use big capacitors ;D Now I'm wondering how to protect capacitors from overcharge and explosion :o
Imagine big capacitor = snowball. got it ? = the more you discharge it the bigger snowball it become ...

You might use one or more Zener diodes deliberately set to offload voltage at a predetermined level? Maybe bleed-off resistors? Or both in series?

--Lee

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 24, 2011, 09:07:38 PM

Quote from: forest on September 24, 2011, 10:51:57 AM
Batteries can explode but you can use big capacitors ;D Now I'm wondering how to protect capacitors from overcharge and explosion :o
Imagine big capacitor = snowball. got it ? = the more you discharge it the bigger snowball it become :o this is the first kind of ou secrets
do you want to hear others ? :P

@ Forest

I was reading a post somewhere that talked about "Pulse voltage generators" but can't find it right now but the capacitors are charged in series and are protected from overloading using spark gaps which place the capacitor bank in series...maybe it's what you're looking for:

From http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Pulse+Engineering,+High-Voltage

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 24, 2011, 10:08:38 PM

Forest said

do you want to hear others ?
-----------
YES PLEASE!!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: highvoltage on September 24, 2011, 10:23:32 PM

Quote from: ramset on September 24, 2011, 10:08:38 PM
Forest said

do you want to hear others ?
-----------
YES PLEASE!!

Chet

Hate to break this to you Chet, but 'forest' IS Tito. You won't get any clear concise answers out of forest just like you didn't out of Tito.

I told you Tito loves the attention and here he is back again teasing you all with exactly the same strategy as before "you want to hear more??"..."its Tesla rollerskating while eating a snowcone whilst snowboarding backwards!!" LOL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 24, 2011, 10:45:30 PM

HIV
Yah gotta stop smokin those little green cigaretts,they're makin you paranoid !

Forest Is "tarzan" !!
TEETs He's............... ???
Well come to think of it YOU could be TEETS ....He's paranoid Too.

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: highvoltage on September 24, 2011, 11:01:28 PM

Quote from: ramset on September 24, 2011, 10:45:30 PM
HIV
Yah gotta stop smokin those little green cigaretts,they're makin you paranoid !

Forest Is "tarzan" !!
TEETs He's............... ???
Well come to think of it YOU could be TEETS ....He's paranoid Too.

Chet

Hahaha, funny stuff if that reasoning which makes no sense works for you.

Ever considered that a person like Teets who has been coming here so long and loves the attention is going to have more than 1,2,3/many id's?? Paranoia nothing. The ape like elementary school sentence structure and excessive use of smiley faces by 'forest' are exactly the same as Tito (not to mention 'forest' is a BIG fan of Tito and has the same 'scientific' outlook)

Anyway, you carry on with your gullible outlook if that suits.

How's that Bill Mehess energy solution working out for you?

I for one choose to seriously question everything, especially when the evidence points to certain people having a history of lying through their teeth.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 25, 2011, 04:14:17 AM

Quote from: highvoltage on September 24, 2011, 11:01:28 PM
Hahaha, funny stuff if that reasoning which makes no sense works for you.

Ever considered that a person like Teets who has been coming here so long and loves the attention is going to have more than 1,2,3/many id's?? Paranoia nothing. The ape like elementary school sentence structure and excessive use of smiley faces by 'forest' are exactly the same as Tito (not to mention 'forest' is a BIG fan of Tito and has the same 'scientific' outlook)

Anyway, you carry on with your gullible outlook if that suits.

How's that Bill Mehess energy solution working out for you?

I for one choose to seriously question everything, especially when the evidence points to certain people having a history of lying through their teeth.

YES,I'm big fan of TITO! But I'm not him. I don't care if you believe me or not, it doesn't matter who I am ( I could be Paris Hilton even) - it matters what I'm saying. Tito method is exactly what Richard Willis done, just read it and try to find what is most important and I think you will find that dead-batteries are not depleted.Self-recharging system like Tesla-switch !
Go back and read Tesla autobiography about childhood accident with big snowball (big like a house !). In Tesla times there was popular ball capacitors.Now,many things act like snow : electrons,radio waves,sounds,vibrations).You throw snowball and instead of becoming smaller it become bigger and the momentum rise with bigger mass discharging. Tito said that many times.Like dominoes or snowball - you have to have collector like Steven mark said or to find "circuit potential"

P.S. If I'm Tito then highvoltage has SHORT-CIRCUIT ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 25, 2011, 04:34:57 AM

Quote from: ramset on September 24, 2011, 10:08:38 PM
Forest said

do you want to hear others ?
-----------
YES PLEASE!!

Chet

First I think I have come to the important answer.I may be wrong but I'm more and more convinced that to get anykind effect like we are searching for we have to consider circuit having two resonant parts.even if one is "natural resonator" in some cases or if those two are not clearly visible (merged,joined,melted together). Like early radio circuits which looked like very mystical ancient devices (radio circuit by Amos Dolbear )
Look here : http://www.icehouse.net/john1/stubblefield.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 25, 2011, 09:03:39 AM

HIV
One more for the list[your snicker list],except I AM building this one !

From here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/8999-peter-daysh-davey-water-heater-query.html#post155015

And the inventor is helping !
a work in progress.
@
Forrest, Thank you!!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 25, 2011, 10:14:41 AM

Quote from: ramset on September 25, 2011, 09:03:39 AM
HIV
One more for the list[your snicker list],except I AM building this one !

From here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/8999-peter-daysh-davey-water-heater-query.html#post155015

And the inventor is helping !
a work in progress.
@
Forrest, Thank you!!

Chet

Chet

You know - that would be very important to build ! this sonic could confirm what Don Smith described about power being dependent on square of frequency.

1.5L of water can be boiled using 2-2.4kW and it takes 180 seconds (rougly)
Assume 50Hz, and assume that sonic boiler is working with 400Hz generate inside can
50^2=2500
400^2=160000

that means at 400hz it should take 64 times less time or about 3 seconds !
3 seconds to boil 1.5 liter of water !!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 25, 2011, 10:39:13 AM

Forrest
I love yah man!!!!!!!
Yes We can learn a lot here!
Thanks for your support!!

Please comment any time at Slovenias thread!

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on September 25, 2011, 12:00:19 PM

Chet,

For that heater would an adjustable hose clamp work for the metal ring?

http://partsreadyonline.com/item.php?ItemID=200
http://www.kshoseclamp.com/wire_clamps.htm

Might help in tuning.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 25, 2011, 05:19:20 PM

Hi DreamThinkbuild
Slovenia is in contact with the inventor ,This is a replication of a running device[6 + years]
He has specific dimensions for the ring
Thread is here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/8999-peter-daysh-davey-water-heater-query.html#post155015

Thanks for your idea [actually VERY Cool =.}

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 25, 2011, 11:52:30 PM

Quote from: highvoltage on September 24, 2011, 10:23:32 PM
Hate to break this to you Chet, but 'forest' IS Tito. You won't get any clear concise answers out of forest just like you didn't out of Tito.

I told you Tito loves the attention and here he is back again teasing you all with exactly the same strategy as before "you want to hear more??"..."its Tesla rollerskating while eating a snowcone whilst snowboarding backwards!!" LOL

@ highvoltage...Thanks for the notice!

I was wondering why nobody paid any attention to my last post...Especially since it deals with charging capacitors in parallel and discharging them in series...Which happens to be the "Secret" to OU as far as Tito and every body else is concerned...???...Check back on the posts in this this thread and Tito mentions this method and someone else mentioned him doing this but with more complicated methods...I think it's all BS but who am I to judge...

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 26, 2011, 01:45:07 AM

Quote from: Goat on September 25, 2011, 11:52:30 PM
@ highvoltage...Thanks for the notice!

I was wondering why nobody paid any attention to my last post...Especially since it deals with charging capacitors in parallel and discharging them in series...Which happens to be the "Secret" to OU as far as Tito and every body else is concerned...???...Check back on the posts in this this thread and Tito mentions this method and someone else mentioned him doing this but with more complicated methods...I think it's all BS but who am I to judge...

Regards,
Paul

Paul

You are correct, this is kind of method but think (think hard) what is the real hidden feature when charging capacitors in parallel and discharging in series (and of course that must be inductance in the path like Tesla described in his patent 'method of conversion') ?
Think about joule thief and second capacitor in tesla patent.
I can't be more clear

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on September 26, 2011, 07:51:36 AM

Montec's posted illustration here (and some ensuing discussion) might be of help:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.msg277075#msg277075
Regards,
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: highvoltage on September 26, 2011, 10:58:38 AM

Quote from: forest on September 26, 2011, 01:45:07 AM
Paul

You are correct, this is kind of method but think (think hard) what is the real hidden feature when charging capacitors in parallel and discharging in series (and of course that must be inductance in the path like Tesla described in his patent 'method of conversion') ?
Think about joule thief and second capacitor in tesla patent.
I can't be more clear

Sure Tito sure!! LOL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: highvoltage on September 26, 2011, 11:01:16 AM

Quote from: forest on September 26, 2011, 01:45:07 AM
I can't be more clear

Well actually you could Tito! It's called 'posting a schematic'...NOT talking in stupid riddles

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 26, 2011, 02:03:37 PM

HIV
You either must be a fairly young man or you've lived a very sheltered life!

How many languages can you speak and write Fluently?
If you were to go on the Russian forum and try to Converse .... would you appear "Apey"?Awkward?

As we get Older It becomes much harder to Grasp a 2nd Tongue!

Stop Glopping folks together based on Difficulty with your native tongue!

Chet
Edit { removed PutZo]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on September 27, 2011, 08:38:48 AM

Hi all, im a newbie here trying to learn about alternative energy, i only know basic electronics, and i don't have much knowledge about tesla, but i beleive what tito is saying, and what Aviso is doing, i've tried experimenting with just scrap parts i could find, with just a 12v battery a coil, a capacitor and a relay, i could produce 220v ac that could light a 100w bulb or run a 220v small dc motor, i've also tried a magnacoaster setup, where i can fast charge a battery.... i beleive there's something in this setup that could help change the way our world uses energy...

So hats off!!! to all of you trying to help change & save our planet for the better future... ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on September 27, 2011, 10:13:22 AM

Crazycut, are you a fairy teller?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 27, 2011, 09:17:33 PM

Quote from: highvoltage on September 26, 2011, 11:01:16 AM
Well actually you could Tito! It's called 'posting a schematic'...NOT talking in stupid riddles

@ everybody
Hi good day everyone

Sorry if i post again in the middle of my silence, cause of this "HighVoltage with low current brain", Why don't you just go away in my thread! ???, you are not helping, you are wasting post here and making my thread very dirty because of your nonsense post!!!!!!!

forest can write and construct good sentences than me remember an ape sentence? but you understand my ape sentence brother ape ;D
and if he is me why forest is asking some questions to me, is it useful to answer my own question?, use your logic, mute brain!!! sorry ;)

in the beginning of my post up to now, believe it or not i'm only using one ID, i'm not like you "highvoltage, Mrmag" ;D

And this is the real me, very funny guy remember => ;D

@everybody here is my gift to all of you to scruitinize
how nice to study if everything is in one place isn't it? ;)
This is my way of study, and that's a tip. ;)

oh boy another goodbye,count it agin, cause some mute brain is destructing my silence!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 27, 2011, 09:51:44 PM

And this IS THE FREE ENERGY ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT-9m4Kq-WM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2UtjNxLlyo&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGV916Yk7s&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATbzZzg0UVQ&feature=related

hurry up replicate!!! replicate!!! faster! faster! ;)
copy these videos now!

i told ya free energy is easy and real ;)
once running and energized then everything is output ok ;)

There you have it .

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 27, 2011, 10:19:23 PM

Take a look at this and what do you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR6_EPsm6Ls&feature=related

i think we can make also some free energy here. ;D

take a look at this, i want you to learn a little about magnets here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O6CfHaE7Bk&feature=related

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 27, 2011, 11:03:37 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 27, 2011, 10:19:23 PM
Take a look at this and what do you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR6_EPsm6Ls&feature=related

i think we can make also some free energy here. ;D

Hey Tito

As usual you are back posting after the Nth time you told us you wouldn't come back...then you come back posting some useless shitt...what else is new....

Hey listen up bud...you're on an "Open Source" site yet 6 Million people are dying every year while you hold back you're supposedly "Secret" to OU and it goes unpublished year after year! What are you up to now 6 X 4 = 24 Million People?

Take a look around bro...This ain't funny no more...You capice?

And @ Forest...you haven't listed you're schematics yet either...

I tend to agree with @ highvoltage and call BS on this whole thread unless someone comes up with a schematic and explanation on how to save those 6 Million people that are dying every year for lack of human compassion.

With kind regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: highvoltage on September 27, 2011, 11:26:19 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 15, 2011, 11:54:57 PM
i think no one want to buy my tech, that's it, i'll just stop now, and this time its a serious goodbye everyone. :(

i am not going to reply anymore to any comment you post good or bad, you are all free now.
bye everyone :(

GOD BLESS
OTITS L NOICARO SIGNING OFF ;D

Hahahaha...barely 1 week and Tito could not stay away!! Like I said...he would be back because he loves the attention.

I thought you said you wouldnt be back this time for sure Tito??? Ahh..if only that were true with your silly little comments and stupid youtube posts. You do realise that all your suggestions are pathetic and frauds right!! I mean that last post was a joke...its a common optical illusion taken to the next level with somebody inserting it into a video!

Go away for good!! Stick to your promises. You obviously missed that scripture in the Bible where God commands "let your yes mean yes and your no, no".

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 27, 2011, 11:34:30 PM

Quote from: Goat on September 27, 2011, 11:03:37 PM
Hey Tito

As usual you are back posting after the Nth time you told us you wouldn't come back...then you come back posting some useless shitt...what else is new....

Hey listen up bud...you're on an "Open Source" site yet 6 Million people are dying every year while you hold back you're supposedly "Secret" to OU and it by goes unpublished year after year! What are you up to now 6 X 4 = 24 Million People?

Take a look around bro...This ain't funny no more...You capice?

And @ Forest...you haven't listed you're schematics yet either...

I tend to agree with @ highvoltage and call BS on this whole thread unless someone comes up with a schematic and explanation on how to save those 6 Million people that are dying every year for lack of human compassion.

With kind regards,
Paul

@highvoltage
i was actually in the silence but this misserable highvoltage with the low current is forcing me to post again ok. by the way did you not read my comment to you.
you are coating verse from the bible as if you are very kind ;D
well even the devil in the bible your father satan also use verses! ;D

i told you i was not suppose to be here, my silence was just destructed by the mute brain. ok bye!!! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 27, 2011, 11:36:26 PM

Well, the first vid there may be a reed switch in the larger wire connected to the fan leads, and a small battery in the fan. One reason I say this is, at first the fan runs real good with the magnets near the thick wire. But as the vid goes on, the fan needs help going. Battery going low.

The second vid seems more convincing as the coil of wire doesnt seem to have the space for a reed. But im not seeing the how gogo. ;]

The third vid, na, couldnt be. Lopsided Howard Jonson motor?

The forth vid, Chaotic Pendulum. Will eventually stop. If the hand stops moving. ;]

Do you really think people should put effort into these titos? ;] Really? For reals? For true?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: kooler on September 27, 2011, 11:37:49 PM

hey tit..
i found a video of your like..
this dude could take abit more wheat and probably triple his output easy..
were talking very high tension output.. free energy.. for sure..
super hero like.. i know he is my hero.. you might want to hold your breath for 30 mins or so .. to see if you find your path..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpQQpIOCp_A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpQQpIOCp_A)

when you find that path i'll be there to walk with you..
were i am going it's tropical weather but hotter and alot of chaos..
but hell i heard they have free hotdogs.. hahahahaha

robbie effler

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 27, 2011, 11:53:13 PM

Quote from: kooler on September 27, 2011, 11:37:49 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpQQpIOCp_A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpQQpIOCp_A)

That wont work either. Monsanto Corp has genetically modified most all bean types, which will eventually blow the bottom end out of the bifi buttocks and cause a knot in the aether. Then everyone will be cross eyed and end up eating leaves from trees because they cant see the meat in front of them.

Wont work. lol ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 27, 2011, 11:54:44 PM

Quote from: Goat on September 27, 2011, 11:03:37 PM
Hey Tito

As usual you are back posting after the Nth time you told us you wouldn't come back...then you come back posting some useless shitt...what else is new....

Hey listen up bud...you're on an "Open Source" site yet 6 Million people are dying every year while you hold back you're supposedly "Secret" to OU and it goes unpublished year after year! What are you up to now 6 X 4 = 24 Million People?

Take a look around bro...This ain't funny no more...You capice?

And @ Forest...you haven't listed you're schematics yet either...

I tend to agree with @ highvoltage and call BS on this whole thread unless someone comes up with a schematic and explanation on how to save those 6 Million people that are dying every year for lack of human compassion.

With kind regards,
Paul

They are not useless bud! they are real and part of the secret, you are very concern about the people dying hmmmmmmmm, you can go with hv and plan your marriage ;D :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 28, 2011, 12:02:25 AM

Idiot!!!

What part of the "part of the secret" didn't you get!!!

6 Million people are dying every year while you and all the other OU Con Men are out there preaching that they have got the answer to OU while never releasing true replicable schematics and proof of OU

Please do the right thing and disclose the OU answer in a schematic that will prove it.

Or else bugger off as you promised so many X amount of times.

With kind regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: kooler on September 28, 2011, 12:08:29 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 27, 2011, 11:54:44 PM
, you can go with hv and plan your marriage ;D :P

that wont work either.. i had a friend that his marriage was based on HV.. (Huge Vagina)..
but cum to find out she had 4 HD (Huge dicks) on the side..

keep giving me fuel brother..

robbie effler

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 28, 2011, 12:13:29 AM

Quote from: kooler on September 28, 2011, 12:08:29 AM
that wont work either.. i had a friend that his marriage was based on HV.. (Huge Vagina)..
but cum to find out she had 4 HD (Huge dicks) on the side..

keep giving me fuel brother..

robbie effler

its cool cooler ;D
you make my blood runs again buddy :D

@ paul i have no against you man it was just the mute brain that makes me like this again sorry ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: highvoltage on September 28, 2011, 12:18:28 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 27, 2011, 11:34:30 PM
@highvoltage
i was actually in the silence but this misserable highvoltage with the low current is forcing me to post again ok.i told you i was not suppose to be here, my silence was just destructed by MY mute brain. ok bye!!! >:(

LOL....sweeet! I "forced" you Tito?? Wow. Last I heard, us humans were all beings of free will under the power of our own command. You truly must be 'weak minded' as the Jedi say!!

Highvoltage starts concentrating real hard in an attempt to have Tito kick his own ass from a distance...*old Jedi trick.

You really are a priceless fool Tito

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 28, 2011, 12:19:49 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 27, 2011, 11:36:26 PM
Well, the first vid there may be a reed switch in the larger wire connected to the fan leads, and a small battery in the fan. One reason I say this is, at first the fan runs real good with the magnets near the thick wire. But as the vid goes on, the fan needs help going. Battery going low.

The second vid seems more convincing as the coil of wire doesnt seem to have the space for a reed. But im not seeing the how gogo. ;]

The third vid, na, couldnt be. Lopsided Howard Jonson motor?

The forth vid, Chaotic Pendulum. Will eventually stop. If the hand stops moving. ;]

Do you really think people should put effort into these titos? ;] Really? For reals? For true?

Mags

Well, some are joke some are real :) sorry bud :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: highvoltage on September 28, 2011, 12:20:25 AM

Quote from: kooler on September 28, 2011, 12:08:29 AM
that wont work either.. i had a friend that his marriage was based on HV.. (Huge Vagina)..
but cum to find out she had 4 HD (Huge dicks) on the side..

keep giving me fuel brother..

robbie effler

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 28, 2011, 12:23:45 AM

Quote from: highvoltage on September 28, 2011, 12:18:28 AM
LOL....sweeet! I "forced" you Tito?? Wow. Last I heard, us humans were all beings of free will under the power of our own command. You truly must be 'weak minded' as the Jedi say!!

Highvoltage starts concentrating real hard in an attempt to have Tito kick his own ass from a distance...*old Jedi trick.

You really are a priceless fool Tito

you really don't get do you huh ;D

you really want me out here, i know that! you fully fool!

you succeed kicking me but the effect of what you deed made me bounce back you bifilar fools ;D

its fun its fun hahahahahhahhha ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 28, 2011, 12:25:25 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 28, 2011, 12:13:29 AM
its cool cooler ;D

@ paul i have no against you man it was just the mute brain that makes me like this again sorry ;)

Sorry Tito but that just don't cut it.

You've been enjoying the spotlight in this thread for far too long for me to keep silent...

You are on an "open Source" site and yet you keep talking riddles...the fact that you claim you have found a way to OU while not disclosing the schematics for everyone to replicate and validate while 6 Million people die every year waiting for an answer well that speaks volume about your character, what other conclusion can I come up with.

Please, admit to everyone here right now that you purposely or unpurposely started this thread to get attention while never truly having an answer to OU or just go away and seek mental health help from professionals...

You are a sick individual...how can you stand by while so many are dying...what else can I say....please seek professional mental help...you need it badly.

With kind regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 28, 2011, 12:35:56 AM

Quote from: Goat on September 28, 2011, 12:25:25 AM
Sorry Tito but that just don't cut it.

You've been enjoying the spotlight in this thread for far too long for me to keep silent...

You are on an "open Source" site and yet you keep talking riddles...the fact that you claim you have found a way to OU while not disclosing the schematics for everyone to replicate and validate while 6 Million people die every year waiting for an answer well that speaks volume about your character, what other conclusion can I come up with.

Please, admit to everyone here right now that you purposely or unpurposely started this thread to get attention while never truly having an answer to OU or just go away and seek mental health help from professionals...

You are a sick individual...how can you stand by while so many are dying...what else can I say....please seek professional mental help...you need it badly.

With kind regards,
Paul

ok thats what you want?

i'm sorry everyone i did not found that capacitor is the free energy,

sorry but i'm not getting an attention to anyone ok! ok! >:(

they just found out that what i'm saying is true ;)

happy now?

so is this what you want!, forcing me to tell lie? i don't need mental health man!! maybe you!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 28, 2011, 12:40:23 AM

Happy???....not at all Tito...nothing that you tell us will ever replace the hopes of so many Millions of people that have died while you were playing your game....GET IT?

Please disclose your working OU schematic(s) for everyone to replicate and prove that you are not another OU fraud or Admit that you have been an OU fraud from the start of this thread otherwise please seek professional mental health, you really need it.

With kind regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 28, 2011, 12:52:46 AM

Quote from: Goat on September 28, 2011, 12:40:23 AM
Happy???....not at all Tito...nothing that you tell us will ever replace the hopes of so many Millions of people that have died while you were playing your game....GET IT?

Please disclose your working OU schematic(s) for everyone to replicate and prove that you are not another OU fraud or Admit that you have been an OU fraud from the start of this thread otherwise please seek professional mental health, you really need it.

With kind regards,
Paul

my mind is clear i think it is you who need mental health. what i'm saying is true.

i have the technology but you are forcing me, and i don't want to give it. I'M SELLING IT UNDERSTAND.

OK I will not post again but you control that highvoltage mouth cause he's bad breath. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 28, 2011, 12:53:01 AM

Tweeto

Ya know, you dont ever have to leave really. What for? Cuz some potty mouth HV tickles your itch? Thats all he does on this forum in every post. Thats his job, in life.

I think you have it. And you do, because you just happened to go down the right path in order to put things together.
And you can see that many, many have a lot of knowledge, but different path. Its not lazy. Just wrong way.

You probably know, I have stepped on IT a few times, but didnt feel the pebble. I try. My bench is a wreck at least every other day. I work And I come home and do this.
I just dont got it yet.

Of so many people that got into this stuff and pounded time and money into hopeful projects, many have gone a muck. They turn into haters. They get a ride out of bashing. Or they are paid. So say and do as you will. You have not been banned. ;]

If you wanna sell the thing, Get a good attorney. Just imagine being involved in an exchange for 3mil bucks, let alone 100,000. Pretty scary.Would you trust anyone in the room? Would they? ;] There are ways to go about things and there are not. And I wouldnt advertise here.

I have been offered 10,000 if I came up with something. Pew, Thats it? That was the day I finally realized that open source is the only way it could get out there and survive. Even a millionaire investor could screw things all up and the idea is gone again, till when ever.

Eventually , the way the world is going, We may not be able to get the supplies we need to build this stuff. Copper, is pretty cheap right now, compared to what it will be.Gold has gone too far, and silver n copper are going to catch up.
Actually we need to be in the know of what parts are needed so everyone can get some while they can.
Many people are stressing out and the bubble is going to burst. These Are The Days Of Our Lives.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 28, 2011, 12:57:25 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 28, 2011, 12:52:46 AM

OK I will not post again but you control that highvoltage mouth cause he's bad breath. ;D

Now thats comedy right there. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 28, 2011, 01:00:46 AM

Listen up Tito I have nothing to do with HV I only agree with him that you have nothing to offer as far as an "Open Source OU solution"

You have been talking riddles on this site since you started this thread.

As far as "my mind is clear" and "I'M SELLING IT UNDERSTAND" well what can I say...you are on an "Open source forum" and it's not doing any good to the Millions that are dying every year since you started this BS thread....Sorry but no I don't need mental help but you do obviously...

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 28, 2011, 01:02:50 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 28, 2011, 12:57:25 AM
Now thats comedy right there. ;]

Mags

when i said it was serious goodbye then i'm truth to that, my ass was just scrach by HV ok! and then i felt some orgasm ;D that was the truth.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on September 28, 2011, 01:04:50 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 28, 2011, 12:23:45 AM
you really don't get do you huh ;D

you succeed kicking me but the effect of what you did made me bounce back you bifilar fools ;D

TITO, Is this a hint?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 28, 2011, 01:07:09 AM

Sure escape and never come back...True BS as it was since the begining...No replicable schematics and a lot of OU BS...6 Million people will die this year because no one is willing to prove OU...without $$$$$....What a load of crap!

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 28, 2011, 01:08:41 AM

Quote from: TEKTRON on September 28, 2011, 01:04:50 AM
TITO, Is this a hint?

No it's more of Tito's OU claims without substantiation.

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 28, 2011, 01:10:58 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 28, 2011, 01:02:50 AM
when i said it was serious goodbye then i'm truth to that, my ass was just scrach by HV ok! and then i felt some orgasm ;D that was the truth.

Thats no orgasm. Planting an OU seed and watching it grow is an orgasm. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 28, 2011, 01:14:40 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 28, 2011, 01:10:58 AM
Thats no orgasm. Planting an OU seed and watching it grow is an orgasm. ;]

Mags

No Magluvin, Planting a replicable with schematics OU seed and watching it grow As in a replicable OU unit is an orgasm.

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 28, 2011, 01:26:50 AM

Quote from: Goat on September 28, 2011, 01:14:40 AM
No Magluvin, Planting a replicable with schematics OU seed and watching it grow As in a replicable OU unit is an orgasm.

Regards,
Paul

Well, I havnt said that Titos has spread his seed of knowledge yet. Still an ou virgin.

6 million people dying, you do know the agenda of the elite is population reduction. The objective is 500 mil total. Would OU stop them?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 28, 2011, 01:34:49 AM

@ All

Since my endeavor at OU for the last 10+ years has led me to many OU frauds I have grown to dislike many "OU frauds" such as Tito and many others...why is it that these type of people enjoy the spotlight of giving so many people hopes of finding OU while knowing full well that what they propose is nothing than true BS...Does it ever occur to them (the OU frauds) that people like us that lurk in the OU dream that all we want is to help each other without secrets or money involved, while they the OU frauds simply are not helping in the cause to free Millions from dying each year for the lack of a true OU answer?

Please tell me I'm not in need of professional mental help as much as they (the OU frauds) are.

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 28, 2011, 01:43:19 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 28, 2011, 01:26:50 AM
Well, I havnt said that Titos has spread his seed of knowledge yet. Still an ou virgin.

6 million people dying, you do know the agenda of the elite is population reduction. The objective is 500 mil total. Would OU stop them?

Mags

That's exactly why we have to pull together and come up with an OU solution to stop all those innocent people from dying needlessly while the rich get richer on our blood sweat and tears trying to stay alive goes up in flames and in vein...The powers that be would love nothing more than Tito to file for a patent so that they could squash it (I believe that this has happened to many OU devices) but when will people like Tito and all the other OU inventors ever learn that this is the reason for this site?

OU full disclosure is the only way to change this world and that's why I'm here, I just haven't found a replicable method of OU to share yet but I'll keep trying :)

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on September 28, 2011, 07:34:22 AM

I'm tired of reading here that OU will help somehow the poor, the hungry, etc. Can you, guys elaborate your claims? Do you really believe that present mechanisms of ruling the world will change? The hungry people of today already have access to a huge source of energy: the Sun; but this source makes their situation even worse and still they can't help themselves. The probable OU machine will need copper. Immediately the price of copper will go up! The world rulers have mechanisms to curb any good idea. There is a lot of inventions of the past, whose inventors believed to help people and it turned to be their curse instead.

I really don't know how it is possible, that otherwise smart guys can believe such dreams that single invention will change the world for better.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 28, 2011, 08:38:52 AM

Quote from: Qwert on September 28, 2011, 07:34:22 AM
I'm tired of reading here that OU will help somehow the poor, the hungry, etc. Can you, guys elaborate your claims? Do you really believe that present mechanisms of ruling the world will change? The hungry people of today already have access to a huge source of energy: the Sun; but this source makes their situation even worse and still they can't help themselves. The probable OU machine will need copper. Immediately the price of copper will go up! The world rulers have mechanisms to curb any good idea. There is a lot of inventions of the past, whose inventors believed to help people and it turned to be their curse instead.

I really don't know how it is possible, that otherwise smart guys can believe such dreams that single invention will change the world for better.

You are correct. Unless we drop society based on cult of money there will be always a way to manipulate people. People do not really know how easily it could be ended - just a big solar storm and all market is down...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 28, 2011, 02:17:43 PM

Videos which Tito posted are of course hoaxes, you just have to crack some ideas from them and combine.

This is different http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVZJOAFrp9w
but concept is the same. Just replace led with capacitor with proper shunting and of course use much higher power to circulate.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2011, 03:49:14 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dag57 on September 29, 2011, 06:22:53 PM

hi tito, glad to see you back. this is YOUR THREAD! you don't owe anybody anything. share what you want to and nothing more. i have enjoyed your thread. i agree with you along the lines of a bedini (tesla type) inductive discharge coil charging a capacitor with damped waves and discharging into a tesla magnifying transmiter type curcuit. ;) dag

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on September 29, 2011, 07:20:58 PM

Quote from: forest on September 28, 2011, 02:17:43 PM
Videos which Tito posted are of course hoaxes, you just have to crack some ideas from them and combine.

This is different http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVZJOAFrp9w
but concept is the same. Just replace led with capacitor with proper shunting and of course use much higher power to circulate.

What you see in that beautiful video is a perfect example of Cascading Coils, which is something I tried to explain to the Muller/Romero gang so many times but just got wamboozled by one particular @member at every turn. Well this is just perfect now to show this video (that is if it is not tricked with batteries behind his tapped coil ends), but the effect of it is right in front of everyones nose. There are other effects that this guy is not taking advantage of but in general he has it.

@tito

I sincerely hope your health is getting better and was sorry to read about it. Myself I just got out of 2 weeks of incredible back pains, enough to want to just die and be done with it, but managed to fight it off. I am 98% OK now and ready to get back to some more bench works. From what I read on this thread, you are close to breaking the Guinness record for the most times someone leaves a thread for good, then comes back. We will have to make a party of it. lol

So...........where do I send the 3 million dollar check, or, do you prefer Paypal. lol
Just jokin man, keep well.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 29, 2011, 07:54:12 PM

Hi Wattsup;

The http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVZJOAFrp9w link is a HOAX :-\

See the thread here where Mark admits he used small 12V batteries hidden inside one of the coils: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/showthread.php?t=9411

Ah well, another clown :D

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2011, 08:09:43 PM

Quote from: wattsup on September 29, 2011, 07:20:58 PM
What you see in that beautiful video is a perfect example of Cascading Coils, which is something I tried to explain to the Muller/Romero gang so many times but just got wamboozled by one particular @member at every turn. Well this is just perfect now to show this video (that is if it is not tricked with batteries behind his tapped coil ends), but the effect of it is right in front of everyones nose. There are other effects that this guy is not taking advantage of but in general he has it.

@tito

I sincerely hope your health is getting better and was sorry to read about it. Myself I just got out of 2 weeks of incredible back pains, enough to want to just die and be done with it, but managed to fight it off. I am 98% OK now and ready to get back to some more bench works. From what I read on this thread, you are close to breaking the Guinness record for the most times someone leaves a thread for good, then comes back. We will have to make a party of it. lol

So...........where do I send the 3 million dollar check, or, do you prefer Paypal. lol
Just jokin man, keep well.

wattsup

owh boy :D lol you're becoming funny also sir :D

i cannot stop my hands to brake my promise to thank you sir :)
i would like to apologize to what i wrote for the past 2 - 3 pages here sir, sorry sir because of this HV!, he electrocute my ass. :D

actually sir i am not much serious about the $3M, I just want to make enough money using my tech, and after that i am really want to share it for free to anyone. i'm not like tesla, i don't want this tech die with me.

but as of now we are currently being attack by many typhoons and really needs some financial so i cannot decide yet for that.

i have a big feeling that forest get it already. cause he is asking how to control the over charging of caps and that is the approaching to avalance that tesla is talking about. he is experiencing the first time of my first experiment, and hope he will not forget to use some fuse :D

The circuit is really tricky that even an intelligent scientist cannot easily see it. ;)

Actually i prefer 3M cents :D so that no one can notice. lol :D :D :D :D :D :D

@ dags

thank you also buddy ;) :)
you can actually use the ignition scheme or ozone of tesla for more torque and powerful!. for a simple bedini ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on September 29, 2011, 08:31:13 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2011, 08:09:43 PM

Actually i prefer 3M cents :D so that no one can notice. lol :D :D :D :D :D :D

Tito, I think if we all chipped in we could easily come up with 30,000 Peso as a down payment.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 29, 2011, 08:50:04 PM

Hi Tito;

Glad to see you back here...lol...so you're ready to settle for 3 million pennies?

How about applying for the OU prize, at least you could start with 10,000 dollars instead of 30,000 :) Might bring you good karma :)
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2011, 08:58:30 PM

Quote from: Goat on September 29, 2011, 08:50:04 PM
Hi Tito;

Glad to see you back here...lol...so you're ready to settle for 3 million pennies?

How about applying for the OU prize, at least you could start with 10,000 dollars instead of 30,000 :) Might bring you good karma :)
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Regards,
Paul

is this OU prize real? someone emailed me and said that i will send a working scheme and pay me for every build, but the game is trust. The question is how can i trust whom i don't know?

what if i send my tech and nothings back? :-\ and how do i know their build if they are in million build and they are sending payment for build one. lol :D

sorry for being bold buddy, but that was me ok.
i'm just a simple virgin man see=> ;D

That's why, to make sure money, then i have to use it first in my own ok? ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 29, 2011, 09:39:56 PM

TEETS
You Creepy Man...........

@ Wattsup
This book will change your life
http://www.healingbackpain.com/dvd.html
Your pain is real .... The reason for it .....?

Get this Book Or DVD whatever it is "Pronto" ,I was struck by a drunk driver as a kid ...suffered all my life with pain
for very good reasons ..
I don't have episodes like you just went thru anymore..
Get the Book.

Tito
You need to read the other Book .......The big one that Charles Stanley talks about..

You St#%$ Pie#@%^^#@$$ Man......
Ugly Too!!
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2011, 10:04:07 PM

Quote from: ramset on September 29, 2011, 09:39:56 PM
TEETS
You Creepy Man...........

@ Wattsup
This book will change your life
http://www.healingbackpain.com/dvd.html
Your pain is real .... The reason for it .....?

Get this Book Or DVD whatever it is "Pronto" ,I was struck by a drunk driver as a kid ...suffered all my life with pain
for very good reasons ..
I don't have episodes like you just went thru anymore..
Get the Book.

Tito
You need to read the other Book .......The big one that Charles Stanley talks about..

You St#%$ Pie#@%^^#@$$ Man......
Ugly Too!!
Chet

No honey sweetheart, i'm just being truth in reality of life ok. ;D

Using it in my own is very slow BUT sure. ;D

i have gave the world a chance but didn't grab it, so be it. ;)

$3M dollar pennies :D :D :D :D lol
i really want them in pennies cause i'm pregnant. hahahahahah lol :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 29, 2011, 11:52:43 PM

Hey Tito

This is the way I see it these days.... Or any other day. ;]

Open sourcing gives you and all an opportunity to make and sell the devices. Cuz once the cats are out of the bag, hundreds or even thousands can build away and spread the evidence of the good news. Then what, can they really stop it then? Not if it gets out fast enough.

Right now, as a single person, if you sold a few or more locally, someone will blab about it and you will attract the wrong attn. It would be easy to squash, your ass, as you call it. ;]

But if its out there, then there is no threat. You can be the one that has various devices beyond the 1 cat. ;] There are many, many here that would build it and the word would spread like wild fire. Thats a good fire.

Let me ask you something. Can it be a reliable device, small, one that can keep a 12v batt. at 13.5v with a 200w load? What Im getting at is, could it be small and equal the power of a 200w solar panel, but continuous. Could anyone build it? Just for giggles, how much would it cost in parts for a 200w lunchbox?

It would have to be a sure thing. Buy the ingredients and bake the cake and it is good every time.

But if you pursue selling, get an atty, if you can trust one. ;] Most all of them may have never heard of these things. You would have to give them a history lesson on the dangers that surround these ideas so he doesnt make the wrong step in finding a buyer.

Anyway, just my thoughts. Dont want to see ya get hurt. ;] Teets

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ouishere on September 30, 2011, 01:26:21 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 29, 2011, 11:52:43 PM
Hey Tito

This is the way I see it these days.... Or any other day. ;]

Open sourcing gives you and all an opportunity to make and sell the devices. Cuz once the cats are out of the bag, hundreds or even thousands can build away and spread the evidence of the good news. Then what, can they really stop it then? Not if it gets out fast enough.

Right now, as a single person, if you sold a few or more locally, someone will blab about it and you will attract the wrong attn. It would be easy to squash, your ass, as you call it. ;]

But if its out there, then there is no threat. You can be the one that has various devices beyond the 1 cat. ;] There are many, many here that would build it and the word would spread like wild fire. Thats a good fire.

Let me ask you something. Can it be a reliable device, small, one that can keep a 12v batt. at 13.5v with a 200w load? What Im getting at is, could it be small and equal the power of a 200w solar panel, but continuous. Could anyone build it? Just for giggles, how much would it cost in parts for a 200w lunchbox?

It would have to be a sure thing. Buy the ingredients and bake the cake and it is good every time.

But if you pursue selling, get an atty, if you can trust one. ;] Most all of them may have never heard of these things. You would have to give them a history lesson on the dangers that surround these ideas so he doesnt make the wrong step in finding a buyer.

Anyway, just my thoughts. Dont want to see ya get hurt. ;] Teets

Mags

Greetings Magluvin and ALL!! OU is indeed HERE (and as some of you suspect has been hidden in plain sight for a very long time). Well not quite plain sight but for those who dig deep enough it is there.

You won't get it by begging liars on forums and you won't find it by sitting on your hands, it only comes to those who seek it desperately by hard work. Anyway, I am not here to say "ha ha, I have it and you don't".

I am here to say that this tech will one day be on the market, in fact it already is, just hidden in components/circuits etc and if you don't know what makes OU work, how can you recognise it??! The captains of industry (the boys in the playground with their silly clubs) rule the world and it is no good fighting it so we who know the secret play along. Yes, the strategy would be completely bone-headed to try enter the market with a inverter (or similar) that runs on 'nothing' so instead like the vehicle industry over 100-200 years, they milk the devil out of everyones bank book by slowly introducing technologies into every new model! Just think, of course 40 years ago the concept cars were even BETTER looking than the vehicles we drive today! Man was not more stupid back then, he was just as intelligent so why should it take another 100 years to figure things out before we are driving self sustaining clean vehicles around? Money of course! We know that but you have to spell it out sometimes because many here think that if they find the source of FE/OU they are going to be able to market it for what it is! No way!

Our companies product will be released next year and this is not a maybe or perhaps. We are in final negotiations with manufacturers in China and already have a distribution network setup. The product is being marketed as a UPS for homes/farmers/remote locations and the OU is 'hidden' by the fact that we have not connected output to input. All the versions are the same, only sizing is different. Models range from 600w to 10kw and only need either a small 12 volt solar module or or single car battery.

As Magluvin states, yes many people will purchase and attempt to pull these units apart. A lot of the circuit and modules will be pressure embedded in epoxy so that should stop everyone except the most hearty of industrial espionage boffins with endless budgets and scanners whom can take these apart. But if you think about it for a moment, THOSE people won't need to rip open our small device, they already know and have known these secrets for decades!!

Anyway. we are catering to those who wish to buy a module at the same price as current UPS and seriously either get off the grid or buy units to enhance camping/remote workability that has never existed previously without gensets and carbon fuels.

This Tito character?? Well, he doesn't seem very professional to me and speaks like a child so he is kidding himself if he thinks someone will approach him and just give him money for an idea! Quite frankly he probably has nothing. Anybody that has this tech is seriously doing something with it.

Keep the faith people!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2011, 05:23:53 AM

Quote from: ouishere on September 30, 2011, 01:26:21 AM

This Tito character?? Well, he doesn't seem very professional to me and speaks like a child so he is kidding himself if he thinks someone will approach him and just give him money for an idea! Quite frankly he probably has nothing. Anybody that has this tech is seriously doing something with it.

Good day sir
I may not be good in communication or with the professional character as you are looking of but the point is, is that your method of finding who have the technology? i think that is not the way sir.

well, sir i am not forcing you to believe me, but i'm not lying and most of the tips that i gave here are truth, well i'm just combining everything to make it fun. :D

one thing more, there are already approaching for money, but sir i want you to know also that i wasn't born yesterday though i speak like a child. ;)

I AM CONSIDERING A LOT OF THINGS ACTUALLY THAT'S WHY I CHOSE TO USE IT PERSONALLY TO EARN A LIVING. OUR CURRENT TIMES IS VERY DANGEROUS SO I HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL. :)

So you think your device that you are planning to sell is secured? You makes me laugh sir :D
yes i believe your company can sell, well just for the first time only but once it was decrypted then you'll be sorry. :)

Now since your acting as a professional and seems intelligent, then what can you advice to me, lets just say if i have it? what will i do sir please teach me, i'm really not professional regarding this things. :)

@ mags
Thanks for your tips bro. ;)
Your right mags but if its already there then i cannot sell anymore cause they will only just do it by themselves.
That is the reason why i'm selling it for $3M once and for all. ;D

really very complicated situation that's why again i choose to keep it. ;)

regarding the size, we need a bigger size more big expenses if we want a bigger watts.

Regarding the battery, we will just use it as a starter.

Yes it can be built by everyone with a very minimal knowledge in electronics only. this is actually the reason why i'm not showing a video because of its elementary design, and i'm not really very clean maker. but in terms of durability, well we can count lot of years for it.

The design will last forever but the material can last up to 10-15-30 years.

@everyone
Hope you understand my childlike spokening ;D :D

OUR MAIN GOAL IN OU IS TO ELIMINATE THE CONVENTIONAL SOURCE OK!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on September 30, 2011, 11:04:39 AM

Quote from: ouishere on September 30, 2011, 01:26:21 AM
Greetings Magluvin and ALL!! OU is indeed HERE (and as some of you suspect has been hidden in plain sight for a very long time). Well not quite plain sight but for those who dig deep enough it is there.

You won't get it by begging liars on forums and you won't find it by sitting on your hands, it only comes to those who seek it desperately by hard work. Anyway, I am not here to say "ha ha, I have it and you don't".

I am here to say that this tech will one day be on the market, in fact it already is, just hidden in components/circuits etc and if you don't know what makes OU work, how can you recognise it??! The captains of industry (the boys in the playground with their silly clubs) rule the world and it is no good fighting it so we who know the secret play along. Yes, the strategy would be completely bone-headed to try enter the market with a inverter (or similar) that runs on 'nothing' so instead like the vehicle industry over 100-200 years, they milk the devil out of everyones bank book by slowly introducing technologies into every new model! Just think, of course 40 years ago the concept cars were even BETTER looking than the vehicles we drive today! Man was not more stupid back then, he was just as intelligent so why should it take another 100 years to figure things out before we are driving self sustaining clean vehicles around? Money of course! We know that but you have to spell it out sometimes because many here think that if they find the source of FE/OU they are going to be able to market it for what it is! No way!

Our companies product will be released next year and this is not a maybe or perhaps. We are in final negotiations with manufacturers in China and already have a distribution network setup. The product is being marketed as a UPS for homes/farmers/remote locations and the OU is 'hidden' by the fact that we have not connected output to input. All the versions are the same, only sizing is different. Models range from 600w to 10kw and only need either a small 12 volt solar module or or single car battery.

As Magluvin states, yes many people will purchase and attempt to pull these units apart. A lot of the circuit and modules will be pressure embedded in epoxy so that should stop everyone except the most hearty of industrial espionage boffins with endless budgets and scanners whom can take these apart. But if you think about it for a moment, THOSE people won't need to rip open our small device, they already know and have known these secrets for decades!!

Anyway. we are catering to those who wish to buy a module at the same price as current UPS and seriously either get off the grid or buy units to enhance camping/remote workability that has never existed previously without gensets and carbon fuels.

This Tito character?? Well, he doesn't seem very professional to me and speaks like a child so he is kidding himself if he thinks someone will approach him and just give him money for an idea! Quite frankly he probably has nothing. Anybody that has this tech is seriously doing something with it.

Keep the faith people!!

Hi ouishere;

Wow! Let me be the first to congratulate you on your remarkable endeavor. I really look forward to seeing your companies UPS on the market next year.

Good luck,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 30, 2011, 12:56:39 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2011, 05:23:53 AM

@ mags
Thanks for your tips bro. ;)
Your right mags but if its already there then i cannot sell anymore cause they will only just do it by themselves.
That is the reason why i'm selling it for $3M once and for all. ;D

really very complicated situation that's why again i choose to keep it. ;)

Well, first, at some point, you will have to meet with a potential buyer. Nobody will just send money and wait for a delivery of an item unseen, especially for the amount of money you are seeking. Even $10000. You will have to trust someone eventually.

Think about this. Say someone has 1 mil for you and they only know that your device works, and it needs developed, which costs money, inventory, money, a big place to do it, money, employees, money, electricity, money etc.

Does this person planning a big operation for the device, know that the idea is Tesla? Hendershot? etc. Prior art? Not patentable unless it contains more than a 20% difference or change.
Does this person know that there is suppression out there that can squash him and his intentions and his money?
Are you prepared to be honest and confess these things to the buyer before a deal is done? Or do you not tell, and let them be on their way at their own risk without warning, just to get the money? What if they are Christian, have children, etc. What if they are just a human being? Even a bad guy?

Tough decisions. But if you just do what you "believe" IS right and proper, it will be the best path. ;]

And as you said above, that you wont be able to sell them to individuals because many others will be selling them.
How many people are there in the world? 5 billion? dunno but I think its close.
Now think. if you sold units for $500 each, (200w lets say), you only have to sell 60 to get your $30000. Thats good money for selling only 60 units. And you will be able to sell more than that before the market gets flooded.

And, if what you say is accurate, you have other techs that can be produced BY YOU, and be free of fear because the first one proved to the world that these techs are available. ;]

Its all about how the first one pans out so that the world knows its here and it works, and say byby gass, byby coal, byby nuclear(especially).

The knowledge has to travel and expand quickly.

And, once the world knows, then it will be safe for a buyer to open a company, and buy your other ideas.

Now, which way do you think is the better path? ;]

Ive thought a lot on all this.

Take care Teets.

Im going to try the igniter circuit on the input to a pulse motor. I have a gen coil that is doing well, just need to improve the motor driver and I think ill be there. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 30, 2011, 02:53:37 PM

Hi ouishere

One question : did you resolved what the reason of OU in your device ? Is that outside energy pull, coherer and in that case do you know exactly the place from it is going from ? or maybe it is just energy amplification like we discuss on this forum where a bit of energy (not quite low actually) is used again and again and almost all losses are eliminated, still however that energy is finally radiated away ?
ah, so many possibilities, yet why so little can make working device ? I'm stunned why it is so hard to do. Even many could have proper idea and only one from many build working prototype. Is that a magic of proper tuning ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2011, 07:03:56 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 30, 2011, 12:56:39 PM

Well, first, at some point, you will have to meet with a potential buyer. Nobody will just send money and wait for a delivery of an item unseen, especially for the amount of money you are seeking. Even $10000. You will have to trust someone eventually.

Think about this. Say someone has 1 mil for you and they only know that your device works, and it needs developed, which costs money, inventory, money, a big place to do it, money, employees, money, electricity, money etc.

Does this person planning a big operation for the device, know that the idea is Tesla? Hendershot? etc. Prior art? Not patentable unless it contains more than a 20% difference or change.
Does this person know that there is suppression out there that can squash him and his intentions and his money?
Are you prepared to be honest and confess these things to the buyer before a deal is done? Or do you not tell, and let them be on their way at their own risk without warning, just to get the money? What if they are Christian, have children, etc. What if they are just a human being? Even a bad guy?

Tough decisions. But if you just do what you "believe" IS right and proper, it will be the best path. ;]

And as you said above, that you wont be able to sell them to individuals because many others will be selling them.
How many people are there in the world? 5 billion? dunno but I think its close.
Now think. if you sold units for $500 each, (200w lets say), you only have to sell 60 to get your $30000. Thats good money for selling only 60 units. And you will be able to sell more than that before the market gets flooded.

And, if what you say is accurate, you have other techs that can be produced BY YOU, and be free of fear because the first one proved to the world that these techs are available. ;]

Its all about how the first one pans out so that the world knows its here and it works, and say byby gass, byby coal, byby nuclear(especially).

The knowledge has to travel and expand quickly.

And, once the world knows, then it will be safe for a buyer to open a company, and buy your other ideas.

Now, which way do you think is the better path? ;]

Ive thought a lot on all this.

Take care Teets.

Im going to try the igniter circuit on the input to a pulse motor. I have a gen coil that is doing well, just need to improve the motor driver and I think ill be there. ;]

Mags

Wow!!! that's the best tips i've ever read in this forum buddy you really have a point there ;)

You really made me think buddy thank you. ;)

But i have a little feeling if all of this will follow to the reality or actual things that will happen. well i think no one is sure, we still have to gamble. :)

good luck to your pulse motor buddy ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2011, 07:18:07 PM

Quote from: forest on September 30, 2011, 02:53:37 PM
Hi ouishere

One question : did you resolved what the reason of OU in your device ? Is that outside energy pull, coherer and in that case do you know exactly the place from it is going from ? or maybe it is just energy amplification like we discuss on this forum where a bit of energy (not quite low actually) is used again and again and almost all losses are eliminated, still however that energy is finally radiated away ?
ah, so many possibilities, yet why so little can make working device ? I'm stunned why it is so hard to do. Even many could have proper idea and only one from many build working prototype. Is that a magic of proper tuning ?

hi buddy

i believe you are now in part resolving excessive energy that you are producing were in extra care is a must. ;) be careful bro. :)

you have to use spark gap first and try to eliminate that later ok?.

an exact and balance and always balance is what we need to make a perfect working device. cause if some components is over loaded then danger will arise and your wasting money right?. and expect the magic smoke ;D

take care buddy ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: highvoltage on September 30, 2011, 07:30:28 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2011, 07:18:07 PM
an exact and balance and always balance is what we need to make a perfect working device. cause if some components is over loaded then danger will arise and your wasting money right?. and expect the magic smoke ;D

take care buddy ;D

They need balance do they Tito??! Well duh!! More buffoonery and stupid answers from a buffoon! Your tips are about as helpful and remedial as trying to instruct someone how to fly an airplane by simply saying "err you have to keep the wings straight, ummm and be in the sky and then you see the magic pillows (clouds)"

Ur an idiot Tito.

Either help the people or dont help the people. Don't PRETEND to help the people. You also posted that "you were making this fun" (by posting hoax material).
Whilst I don't believe you, many people here DO and answer me this - what is 'fun' about posting things, forum members taking it seriously, wasting their long precious hours testing your dumb suggestions and THEN later you say "oh it was all a joke!!"

Think on it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2011, 07:45:25 PM

speaking of the devil. :D

Ow wow!! how i missed you :-*

Your so very caring and serious oh how lovable you are :-*, your so good satan.

Don't forget to bring two different metals cause were gonna make some thermoelectric energy in hell your really a good source for energy. ;D

i hope you won't melt. lol hahahahahahhahahaha! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Next time you tell to me bipilar idiot so that it is more effective and you will feel great and also give me a special kiss JUDAS like this one :-*

by the way, where is your comrad paul :D joke

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: highvoltage on September 30, 2011, 07:54:20 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2011, 07:45:25 PM
Ow wow!! how i missed you :-*

Your so very caring and serious oh how lovable you are :-*, your so good satan.

Don't forget to bring two different metals cause were gonna make some thermoelectric energy in hell your really a good source for energy. ;D

i hope you won't melt. lol hahahahahahhahahaha! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yawwwn. Predictable childish Tito answer.

You must be like 8 years old.

1. There is NO hell. Hell is a construct made up by clergy to put fear into weak minded fools like you so that when you go to church you will pay more cash to 'insure' heavenly reward. (another lie)
2. Even IF there was a Hell, a thermocouple would deliver zero volts due to you requiring a temperature differential. Considering Hell is supposed to be just a burning pit of flames, you are crap outta luck Tito.

Once again all your arguments and puny brain equate to an Epic Fail!

Keep trying little Phillipino Banana salesman LOL

Im already laffing at the fact that you will always be what you are now....nothing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 30, 2011, 07:58:17 PM

it rained and it rained and there was a flood in this small town. the fire brigade went around knocking on all the doors. 'come with us', they say, its going to get worse. one man says he will stay because God will save him. the water keeps rising and the rescuers come in a boat. 'come with us' they said, but still the devout man insists that God will save him..the water continues to rise and its now up to the roof of the house. the man has to climb onto his chimney to keep from drowning..a chopper comes and lowers a ladder to the man, 'come with us this is your last chance' but the man insists that God will save him. he dies and goes to the pearly gates and is furious. he wants to speak to God. God appears and the man lets him have it..I have lived by your rules all my life, never got into any sort of trouble, i was a model citizen, and went to mass every other day...and you let me die. God said 'i sent you a boat, a fire engine and a helicopter, what more do you want
----------------------------------

So Teetsla shows up at the pearly gates
Says to the Big guy
Lord I prayed and prayed for free energy [and I got it]
Then I prayed and prayed for an answer 'What to do with it"?

The Lord says
Tsunamis Earthquakes Typhoons
12 million people starving in sumalia
And A hundred Pages of people Begging!!
And you didn't know what to Do??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2011, 08:02:26 PM

Quote from: highvoltage on September 30, 2011, 07:54:20 PM
Yawwwn. Predictable childish Tito answer.

You must be like 8 years old.

1. There is NO hell. Hell is a construct made up by clergy to put fear into weak minded fools like you so that when you go to church you will pay more cash to 'insure' heavenly reward. (another lie)
2. Even IF there was a Hell, a thermocouple would deliver zero volts due to you requiring a temperature differential. Considering Hell is supposed to be just a burning pit of flames, you are crap outta luck Tito.

Once again all your arguments and puny brain equate to an Epic Fail!

Keep trying little Phillipino Banana salesman LOL

Im already laffing at the fact that you will always be what you are now....nothing.

No, your wrong cause i'm 7 years old ;D
There, see the truth? ladies and gentlemen he reveal his feather, you wait for your judgement boy ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 30, 2011, 08:05:04 PM

Liked the post Ram ;]

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2011, 08:16:28 PM

HV were are you? why you leavin too fast like high voltage. aha i think you don't want your feather to be discovered isn't it? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You are suppressing everyone you miserable free energy!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

ooops don't laugh ladies and gentlemen he is serious seee ===> >:(

he might eat you :D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on September 30, 2011, 09:58:14 PM

Hey Tito,
Thanks for the tip about balance, and the "fuse" thing you mentioned as well (maybe you were just kidding, but don't worry, it'll clear itself up). The idea of cascading discharges makes sense, but I was thinking in terms of combining different frequencies (heterodyning). Anyway, my wife doesn't like the sound of caps exploding in the basement, and the smell of smoke doesn't help either.

I see, or at least believe, that your system has a lot in common with the TPU. There have been some helpful comments the last few pages that seem to confirm this for me.

Be well.
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 30, 2011, 11:25:31 PM

I found this video pretty interesting ;]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OibqdwHyZxk

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 01, 2011, 09:03:03 AM

Mags
Nice Movie ...
I still don't have sound on this Cruddy old Putor !
Seems like the worlds about to get a wake up call??

-------
Teets
You Know I work with Handicapped kids ,I've been struggling to start a business that brings Life changing Solutions to Families with handicapped Children .

Well the reason I bring this up ??
These Families all worry about "Whats Going to happen to our Children when We're Gone"
Who's going to take care of them??

850,000.00 children were born last year with Autism!

WE MUST CHANGE as a Society ,The Days Of "I"m GONNA GET MINE"
The heck with the rest!! Have to end.

You see Tito this New Guy here figured a way to Keep His!!
Thats not what we're about here!!

Many Men have been in the corner that you find yourself in!

We are By Nature a selfish Bunch!! [by Necessity ,To a point]

Many men have taken this to their graves ......
Why Don't we change that??

The families that worry "how could such a selfish society provide for My "Innocents" when we're gone"?
Oh How I would love to Show them something positive!!
A Change!

Its time to Change Tito........

Be that Change!!

Chetkremens@gmail.com
PS
Besides.. To be so selfish ...On such a grand scale..
Its not very becoming ...Its what some would call "Evil"
Not very "Christian" at all!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dag57 on October 01, 2011, 12:20:25 PM

@ everybody, looks like overunityishere has all the answers were looking for, maybe we need to be asking him (or Her) for this information. ;) then just maybe we can stop those 6 million people from having to die every year! Dag , just saying! good video Mags!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on October 01, 2011, 03:58:28 PM

You guys must be joking. Like the man said, the technology's long been there at the highest levels, but nothing gets released unless approved from on high, and only if it will help increase profits. To challenge this monopoly is to risk arrest and imprisonment on trumped up charges, forcible silencing or death by mysterious circumstances. The princes of this world have little patience for anyone who dares mess with them on their turf in medicine, pharmaceuticals, energy, food production, politics, finance, entertainment... you name it. They could stop needless suffering and death you refer to starting tomorrow if they wanted. They continue to stop anyone motivated by the highest religious or human ideals whose work to better humanity might threaten their control.
That said, they do allow clues to be left as to the nature of the game and how it's played. So study Tesla, Moray, Dollard, Bedini, Bearden, Don Smith and others while you can, read the clues in this thread, then try working something out. And if then if YOU want to, be a hero and see what happens.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 01, 2011, 04:34:20 PM

Bob Smith
It's not about Hero's
It's about doing the right thing!! This FE stuff is on so many fronts
being studied by tons of People all around the world .

But just like TEETS their looking to make a buck!!

This has been coming down the road a long time ,The Silk worm is out!

Its just a matter of Time..............

Heres a movie along those lines from Magluvin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OibqdwHyZxk

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: core on October 01, 2011, 05:07:33 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2011, 08:58:30 PM
........but the game is trust. The question is how can i trust whom i don't know?

Stop and think ;D for a minute, why would a company send 3M to someone they don't know? No pictures, video's etc..., just words. Hmmm seems like you are your own worst enemy.

-Core

BTW - For 1.5 m I will give you the secret to free energy. BUT I need the check, and it must clear, first. NO REFUNDS!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 01, 2011, 05:11:30 PM

Ramset

I think Bob Smith has some good point here. Not all inventors were greedy, there were persons with good soul inside who tried to show people what they can do for themselves. They were stopped right in their way, dissapear or dead by accident, and in many cases just ignored and treated like madmans.It's true.
Ramset you are a good person I believe, good soul. Do the right things and be sure time will come soon, but first man has to change into truly soul not greedy body... We cannot force that ,and we cannot stop that.Only God can.I hope Teets will be ready then to teach us from his deep heart.

Tarzan from deep forest ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dag57 on October 01, 2011, 05:14:10 PM

no i'm not kidding. seems several people here are giving tito absolute hell for not sharing everything at once he knows but no body wants to ask the tough questions of someone else who claims to know all the secrets. seems a little off to me. i wouldn't get to paranoid about the MIB either; this is a grass roots movement. if we spread the technology around on this level everyone can build there own and help each other out. that way it can't be stoped! i've been studing the people mentioned for several years as many others have been i'm sure. maybe we all need to focus on energy amplification instead of turning tito's thread into a three ring circus. ;D that would be good! dag what is known about energy amplification? tesla talks about 2 ways of doing it in his colorado springs notes. one is by charging capacitor and disrupted discharges, the other is by resonants any other ideas? :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 01, 2011, 06:29:59 PM

Forest
The man ouishere mentioned patents and reading between the lines
Here's a patent that is more like going to school and taking OU class
From August of this year

From Ahuramazda
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/9413-meyers-secret-last.html#post159532

Like a breath of fresh air ...........
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dag57 on October 01, 2011, 10:18:41 PM

thanks Chet, for the information, i will study over this. dag

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on October 02, 2011, 10:06:29 AM

We know that Tito is discharging from caps into coils. There was mention of:
- charging caps in parallel
- discharging caps in series
as the "secret" to OU

with:
- inductance in the path of discharge.

Tito mentioned way, way back that "push-pull" was important in his setup. Here is a link to gotoluc's video that explains:
Push-Pull Action thru -
- use of high inductance coil and magnet
- with mosfet

The high inductance of the coil is needed to counter the magnet's action (on the coil) to get the push-pull effect:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8BehANEVUo&feature=related

User harryfodder comments on luc's coil, stating that it is made up of multiple thinner gauge wire wrapped in parallel around the core for:
- decreased resistance
- increased capacitance

I'm not sure whether luc's coil winding style might work with the objective of this thread, but the push-pull explanation is helpful.

A new development as below might be useful --

I think that with a high enough frequency discharge from a very small cap, you could run your discharges thru a coil with:
- low turn, low impedance primary
- high turn, high impedance secondary
to provide a solid state (regenerative) Thane Heinz effect, as shown in these 2 videos by overunityguide:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbmharDOA3Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YiRV1SUsgc&NR=1

I still think the push-pull action is important, if you factor in the magnetic field of the earth, perhaps (e.g. as in TPU). I just need to reflect on how it all comes together.

FWIW
Bob

Edit: Well, I just read that according to Thane Heinz,

QuoteTHIS IS NOT DELAYED LENZ EFFECT - THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE WHICH MAY BE USEFUL

... but maybe useful...maybe...
Thane's post:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=11350.msg301583#msg301583

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dag57 on October 02, 2011, 12:41:15 PM

thanks Bob, i will also study over this info. have a great day everybody. :) dag

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 02, 2011, 03:42:04 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn06FQbIRGU

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 03, 2011, 12:52:09 AM

Quote from: core on October 01, 2011, 05:07:33 PM
Stop and think ;D for a minute, why would a company send 3M to someone they don't know? No pictures, video's etc..., just words. Hmmm seems like you are your own worst enemy.

-Core

BTW - For 1.5 m I will give you the secret to free energy. BUT I need the check, and it must clear, first. NO REFUNDS!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Ya, your right also, that is actually a problem, but the difference is i have the product, cause i can make money without them though slowly but sure and safe ;D

its not my loss hmmmmmm.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 03, 2011, 03:11:36 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 03, 2011, 03:32:15 AM

;D

:P

:D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dag57 on October 03, 2011, 02:38:03 PM

@ chet, thanks again for the info on the patent. i will have to read over it a few times. very interesting though. i see a lot of simularities in the marks device so far. also thanks Mags; looking forward to the movie thrive coming out. did not know about that. the other movie pay it forward would be great but i see society moving farther away from this idea. i hope i'm wrong! anyway i think this thread is dying. but i also think this subject is worthy of discussion though. i hope ouishere will give us more info at least theory in the right direction; having first hand knowledge. that would be good. :) dag

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 05, 2011, 07:16:53 AM

Quote from: dag57 on October 03, 2011, 02:38:03 PM
@ chet, thanks again for the info on the patent. i will have to read over it a few times. very interesting though. i see a lot of simularities in the marks device so far. also thanks Mags; looking forward to the movie thrive coming out. did not know about that. the other movie pay it forward would be great but i see society moving farther away from this idea. i hope i'm wrong! anyway i think this thread is dying. but i also think this subject is worthy of discussion though. i hope ouishere will give us more info at least theory in the right direction; having first hand knowledge. that would be good. :) dag

HI DAG

i believe oishere will not give cause i believe that this kind of person are person that don't really share even a simple advice, i think don't expect more info. cause his very intelligent and professional person. and really has the real tech as he says :) :-\

see he's very silent.

He cannot offer because he has something to offer. ;D ???

a free energy that is not free ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on October 05, 2011, 07:51:12 AM

FWIW, Tito mentioned a few days ago that he got a shock off his system that was like an orgasm, followed by a few smileys. ;D ;D ;D This is consistent with what I've read from others who've accidentally gotten shocked from caps that were charged by Bedini rotating magnet-coil setups discharging into caps. The cold electricity brought into the cap by the rapid collapse of the magnetic field and subsequent discharge from the coil - according to some - has produced a shock that has had a pleasurable effect, and in fact has been followed by a decreased need for sleep that day.

I'm not encouraging ANYONE to try this. However, again, it's worth noting the YT vid of the Bedini setup that incorporates charging caps thru coils that are rapidly charged and discharged. The voltage spike disturbs the aetheric balance allowing for an inrush of cold electricity (with the discharge). I have been of the impression to this point that Tito was charging caps and discharging into coils; it's what happens after the coil discharge that counts. I suppose you could dump the charge into another cap and from there into another battery or into another coil-cap-coil-cap...
Have a good day - off to work.
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 05, 2011, 04:28:32 PM

:D yes,sir ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 05, 2011, 06:14:37 PM

So Its True??
Teetsla is getting all carnal with his OU device?? Is He getting
Overunity or Overnudity {mr.T word} ??

HHMMMMMm
I knew something was "Screwy" when He said he was Pregnant!
I have to tell you TeeTs

The plot just got a lot thicker................
You better not go to the "dark Side".

HHMMmmm
TEETS You discovered more than OverNudity, You have a whole New "Sin" category!!

Whacko...........

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 05, 2011, 07:38:09 PM

@everyone

do you know that many times in life, there is a tactic called delaying? and do you know also that to become a very successful business man, you should have patience and planning?

my doctor becomes mad at me when i did not follow the time i took my medicine. :D

bye ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 05, 2011, 07:39:33 PM

Uh Oh Better hold on to your nickers, we have Overnudity!

;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 05, 2011, 07:51:27 PM

The orgasmic effect of overnudity gives perfect and exact point to free energy.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D lol

oh boy what a thread, it has everything :D

where is HV? i missed him, because of the HighVoltage nudity, we can connect a lot of transformer that leads to over high orgasmic free energy, he really has use. :D :D :D lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 05, 2011, 07:56:24 PM

Oh no, he has gone bifilar on us here.

;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 05, 2011, 07:57:27 PM

Once you go trifilar, you will try anything. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 05, 2011, 08:05:39 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 05, 2011, 07:57:27 PM
Once you go trifilar, you will try anything. ;]

Mags

no! we only need one filar nudity for the best rotation of orgasmic effect, for this reason abramenko need to use his bra for the purpose of conservatory goverment. hahahahahahahahahhahhahaha ;D ;D ;D ;D lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 05, 2011, 08:12:20 PM

@Tito L. Oracion

Idiot!!!

you need mental health.

courtesy of paul

kind regards :D :D :D :D :D :D lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 05, 2011, 08:14:21 PM

Very Funny Stuff Fellahs ;D

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on October 05, 2011, 08:15:08 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 05, 2011, 08:21:03 PM

hey kooler

there are lots of fuel here :D

@ sir wattsup

Tito The turkey brain attack again come and join the overnudity sir :D :D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on October 05, 2011, 08:24:39 PM

This is overunity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAssBeS8D10&feature=related
Starts at 30 second mark...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 05, 2011, 08:26:05 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on October 05, 2011, 08:15:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY :o

oh boy that's a good song, the hypnotic effect makes me undress and become overnudity :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on October 05, 2011, 08:32:29 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 05, 2011, 08:26:05 PM
oh boy that's a good song, the hypnotic effect makes me undress and become overnudity :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D lol

AAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! LOL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 05, 2011, 09:23:19 PM

Ok, dont get your panties in a bundle.

Ya might say, whats that suppose to mean?

It means, dont get your under garments all entangled in your crack. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 06, 2011, 02:29:14 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRk5ea5pA5Y

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 06, 2011, 06:53:35 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 05, 2011, 09:23:19 PM
Ok, dont get your panties in a bundle.

Ya might say, whats that suppose to mean?

It means, dont get your under garments all entangled in your crack. ;]

Mags

No! i don't use panties, i use TBACK EMF :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 06, 2011, 08:43:40 AM

HHHHMMMMmmm

No panties?? Back EMF??
Sounds like the secret to tangle free Overnudity!!

Finally........

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 06, 2011, 11:03:49 AM

OK boys, time to take off those dresses and return to the front line. Phasers on full.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 06, 2011, 12:17:47 PM

listen to this story .... once upon a time there was oscillator, let's call him Oz
Oz was clever to not work too much.
He said : why I should work so hard like others do and be tired and heated ?
Let's B-F do my work and I will just take care of their job with a nice whip in hand ;D
So he put B-Fs into schema and not consuming much energy he was not tired and heated anymore.
Next time he thought : those B-Fs are clever and escape once doing their work but I need them to work continuously. Let me check if i could move them around with a nice place to rest.He then collected tired B-Fs and they were ready and steady to do work again.
He found they even attracted some other B-Fs from around and somehow there was no empty rooms in rest place.
Damn - he said - let me involve some nice watch-dog and we would have perpetuum.....BUM! everything exploded ;D
;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 06, 2011, 12:20:17 PM

His full name was Loo P. Oz ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on October 06, 2011, 04:19:07 PM

To all, and especially to Tito:
Recently I found a very inspiring book: I was searching the Internet for solutions on my wife's bunion problem. Bunion is the big toe's deformation which is usually quite painful for patients. I found several solutions and among them I found a site of a health company which is located in Hong Kong, which uses an alternative way to treat diseases. The ways described in this book are applied in this facility. Here are all links I used in this search:
The home page of the facility: http://www.centralphysio.com/index.html
The page demonstrating the author and the book: http://www.centralphysio.com/microcurrent.html#q4
The book itself in pdf, which I found on the internet: http://www.4shared.com/document/--yHvpT0/Robert_O_Becker__Gary_Selden_-.html?cau2=403tNull

The services prices of the hospital are quite expensive in my opinion and the distance to Hong Kong too large for us (me and my wife), I hate to travel. But the book is enormously inspiring IMO, written in easy language, not that one using by proffessionals. Maybe somebody find a better copy since this has some errors, but for me this is just sufficient.
The book's title/authors: The Body Electric/Robert O. Becker & Gary Selden.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on October 06, 2011, 06:19:44 PM

The above information about the book should take place in another department of this forum, but I dedicated this to Tito, as a possible treatment to his health problems. Despite quite a long time passed since experiments described there, those technics are still not widely known and used, despite their tremendous effectiveness, as described there.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: energia9 on October 06, 2011, 06:30:07 PM

Quote from: forest on October 06, 2011, 12:17:47 PM
listen to this story .... once upon a time there was oscillator, let's call him Oz
Oz was clever to not work too much.
He said : why I should work so hard like others do and be tired and heated ?
Let's B-F do my work and I will just take care of their job with a nice whip in hand ;D
So he put B-Fs into schema and not consuming much energy he was not tired and heated anymore.
Next time he thought : those B-Fs are clever and escape once doing their work but I need them to work continuously. Let me check if i could move them around with a nice place to rest.He then collected tired B-Fs and they were ready and steady to do work again.
He found they even attracted some other B-Fs from around and somehow there was no empty rooms in rest place.
Damn - he said - let me involve some nice watch-dog and we would have perpetuum.....BUM! everything exploded ;D
;D ;D

i like this story very much :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on October 06, 2011, 10:01:56 PM

Quote from: energia9 on October 06, 2011, 06:30:07 PM
i like this story very much :P

Me too.
@Forest Tell us more Daddy,please! How about a link to the research please! ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on October 09, 2011, 07:27:52 PM

Just another useful book to read: "Practical-Transformer-Handbook" by Irving Gottlieb (187 pages in .pdf).
http://www.mediafire.com/?kzxzzmnmzwn

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on October 09, 2011, 08:14:44 PM

Quote from: Qwert on October 09, 2011, 07:27:52 PM
Just another useful book to read: "Practical-Transformer-Handbook" by Irving Gottlieb (187 pages in .pdf).
http://www.mediafire.com/?kzxzzmnmzwn

Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 09, 2011, 08:37:40 PM

Forest
Thats a scary story Bum!!

Sounds like TEETS!!

Don't you have one with a Happy ending??

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 09, 2011, 09:25:57 PM

i just want them here as an archive of mine ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 09, 2011, 10:18:32 PM

TEETS
Are you going to tell us a bed time story??

A nice one ??

HHHMMMM?
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 10, 2011, 02:34:12 AM

Quote from: ramset on October 09, 2011, 10:18:32 PM
TEETS
Are you going to tell us a bed time story??

A nice one ??

HHHMMMM?
Chet

No! its a WET time story :D

before achieving overnudity, you chet ready your tongue like this :P before doing this :-* hmmmmmm and you will feel :o after that. :D

oopsss chet! your getting wet!!!! >:(
:D
:D
:D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 10, 2011, 02:59:02 AM

Here is your overunity: http://www.w8ji.com/vswr_reactive_power.htm
Apply reactive power to real power lenzless transformer like Thane kind or others.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 10, 2011, 08:29:26 PM

Quote from: forest on October 10, 2011, 02:59:02 AM
Here is your overunity: http://www.w8ji.com/vswr_reactive_power.htm
Apply reactive power to real power lenzless transformer like Thane kind or others.

Yes!, but don't forget also the doping and series parallel technique to add up extra strength ok? ;)

and always use diode to make electron flow in one way to avoid fast discharge. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on October 11, 2011, 03:39:39 PM

In the book i've recently introduced at reply #1541 of this thread, I've found an explanation of a fact that not everybody is aware of and which for some potential inventors can be an inspiration for experiments. It's in section titled "Stepped-up high voltage from not so high turns ratio" on page 105 (118 of 187):
An experimenter is interested in determining the approximate turns ratio
of an automobile ignition coil. He impresses a small audio frequency sine
wave on the primary terminals and uses an oscilloscope to measure the
induced voltage in the secondary. As a result of this measurement technique,
it is found that the voltage step-up is approximately 100. This does
not appear reasonable because 100 times the 12 V of the automobile battery
falls far short of the 15 000-30 000 V needed for firing spark plugs. What is
the nature of the discrepancy?
Although not commonly referred to as a 'flyback' transformer, the ignition
coil develops its high secondary voltage in a similar manner to the flyback
transformer in a television set. In both instances, the primary winding
requires a waveform with a very high rate of voltage or current change.
Such a waveform induces a high voltage counter EMF in the primary and
it is this induced voltage which is stepped-up further in the secondary. Thus
in an automobile ignition system, the abrupt cut-off of the applied 12 V induces a counter EMF in the primary with a peak amplitude of about 250-
300 V. When this purposely-produced 'transient' is multiplied by a 100 to 1
step-up turns ratio, one obtains the 25 kVor so needed for reliable firing of
the plugs.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 12, 2011, 08:58:04 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: garrypm on October 12, 2011, 10:32:37 PM

From tito posting in another thread - is this what you guys are looking for ?

Hi buddy

base on my observation and experiment, in order for an electron or current to flow, then there should be an inbalance number of electrons from the two metals.

So therefore by making a pulse, then we are making an inbalance to something that is constant, and the faster pulse, then the strongest making of inbalance and the more powerful sucking effect of electron from the outside.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 13, 2011, 12:09:10 AM

Another Titos tip....

figure 8 coil?

Why did you erase the post Teets?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 13, 2011, 01:25:09 AM

I found this transformer from Qwerts book find, to be very interesting. ;] Good book

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 13, 2011, 12:59:24 PM

Was thinking on the transformer in my last post. Normally, there isnt much transfer from 1 winding to the other in this configuration(without the cap). But is there enough transfer to get the lc to ring, without affecting the primary adversely?

Then thought about how each windings(primary/secondary) fields act with the way they are wound. The primary has a closed toroid core to work with, and the sec has a short open rod core(with a hole in it ;]) There may be some functional difference as to why the primary is toroidal and the sec is radial wound as shown. If we try the other way around, maybe there is less transfer from the radial to the toroidal winding, and this is a good thing. ;]

I remember once that Teets said something about coils at right angles.

Its worth testing. 50khz isnt bad either. And im sure it can be made to operate at lower freq if need be.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 13, 2011, 07:47:33 PM

@ the world

Hi everyone, a pleasant good day!

I want everyone to give their point of View about this free energy.

cause i really believe that this free energy is not the real solution, well it can help but not actually the solution to save lives as paul says.
for me it can only make individual to make money.

i really want to hear a lot of views please participate.
any comment any views allowed, please.

Thanks everyone. ;)

Though some of you attacks me personally, i still want to thank you everyone.

i want to hear more, i'll just tell my reason after ok?

Thanks ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on October 13, 2011, 09:24:41 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 13, 2011, 07:47:33 PM
@ the world

I want everyone to give their point of View about this free energy.

cause i really believe that this free energy is not the real solution,

Thanks everyone. ;)

Tito

So because YOU think that FE is NOT the solution, my question to you is why do you tease people here with it?? On top of that, you dont even give them accurate information. You lead them around in circles. Why would someone do that?

For the record...it's the only thing I agree with you on...OU is not the solution to mankinds problems.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on October 13, 2011, 09:25:41 PM

Hereâ€™s my two cents.

I have always stated that those who claim to be chasing free energy to better the world are either deluded or lying (both to others and themselves). The fact is that nearly everyone no matter how good the initial INTENTIONS all suddenly see $$$$$ signs and potential riches once they get a OU device in front of them. Why? Because this world is governed by money and life is becoming super expensive like nothing else not to mention the fact that people want all the â€˜toysâ€™ that the rich folk haveâ€¦.and here lies the problemâ€¦money money money!

The issue is NOT that humanity doesnâ€™t have free energy. It boils down to the fact that mankind does not follow the principles laid out in the Scriptures (donâ€™t worry, I wont go hard core Biblical here). However the fact is that if we all -
1)    LOVED one another
2)   Treated others as we wish to be treated
3)   Gave freely and unconditionally
4)   Showed kindness
5)   WORKED HARD WITH OUR HANDS ON THE LAND

This planet would be a â€˜paradiseâ€™ because there would be no â€˜wantsâ€™, no greed, no hunger, no pollution from idiotic plastic appliances that people buy today and throw out tomorrow! Think about it. What purchase has ever brought you happiness? That big car? That ipod? The big 60 inch flat screen? NONE! Do you cuddle your ipod at night and think â€œoh man Im so happyâ€. Of course not! I know what brings me happinessâ€¦.its actually LESS material things. I am happiest after a hard days work with a loved one in my arms, a good meal in my belly and a glass of wine in hand. Is that not all we need? Food, Love, a roof over the head and clothes on your back. Anything in addition to this is an excess and time wasting.

Sometimes I think about people like Casey Johnson (the heir to the Johnson and Johnson fortune who took her own life recently at age 29). This was a person who many would think SHOULD be the happiest person ever. She had all the money in the world (billions), never worked a day in her life, perpetually cruised the world, partied non stop and yet what happened? During the final two years of her life she was a mental wreck (and long before that). She had tried all sorts of relationships with men, then when that didnâ€™t work, hooked up in lesbo relationships and finally with that horror Tila tequila. In the end she was so distressed she took her life. Why? Because there was no purpose to it! We all need a purpose!!

I know many here will laff and say â€œI would be happy with a million (or 10)â€ but it wonâ€™t fix your problems. Look at all the folk that won lotto and it ruined their life. I challenge you to go talk with truly wealthy folk and see if they are happy. Look at their family unit. The parents spend so much time chasing the $$ that they never raised the kids properly with discipline and this destructive path in turn leads to a new generation of spoiled unhappy asshole children who despite having everything they want are miserable and on drugs. If you read honest accounts by great humble men, they all say the same thing â€œmoney was a cause of more pain and they wished they had spent the time in their life with family or on more important thingsâ€ Yes money can EASE your suffering a little but it is the striving after it that truly leads to empty devastating effects.

Have a look at the richest (and wisest) ruler who ever was (King Solomon)â€¦in the Bible account at Ecclesiastes he stated during his days â€œit is ALL vanity and a striving after the windâ€.

We were all meant to work hard and in doing so â€œsee good for our hard workâ€ which means that if we had a field of land and you toil planting some crops, it is you and your family that would reap the benefits! Have you seen how much a tiny piece of earth can produce? A few square metres will grow more vegetables than one man can consume! But what does mankind do??? He ruins the planet in the eternal quest to be top dog of the money pile (oil barron, iron barron or whatever)â€¦.what a stupidity and foolishness! Meanwhile the weather is affected and they pollute the very jewel we live on.

This leads into another topicâ€¦so many people do not wish to work. Once again the Scriptures state â€œIf anyone does not want to work, neither let him eatâ€!! God has no tolerance for lazy people and those that want things palmed out to them.

Anyway, I could go on but itâ€™s no good. Complete overhaul, zero money and God rule is the only thing that will fix this planet.

BTWâ€¦for those of you who wish to continue on with the silly â€˜dreamâ€™â€¦.there are other dangers that lie ahead. Yes OU is real but it makes you seriously ill if you are around it for even short lengths of time. Why? Its an imperfect version of the creative work and messes with the bodies biomechanics. It canâ€™t be shielded because there is a component which is superluminal and permeates all matter. Itâ€™s no coincidence that many a researcher who ever worked on this died of some sort of cancer.

As far as I can see all of the threads here are a long way from finding it anyway.

So long and all the best.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 13, 2011, 10:26:17 PM

Quote from: ElectricGoose on October 13, 2011, 09:24:41 PM
Tito

So because YOU think that FE is NOT the solution, my question to you is why do you tease people here with it?? On top of that, you dont even give them accurate information. You lead them around in circles. Why would someone do that?

For the record...it's the only thing I agree with you on...OU is not the solution to mankinds problems.

no buddy! >:(

i'm not teasing everyone, that's my way of teaching. you miss understood it ok.

anyway thanks for the comment. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 13, 2011, 10:30:05 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 13, 2011, 07:47:33 PM
@ the world

Hi everyone, a pleasant good day!

I want everyone to give their point of View about this free energy.

cause i really believe that this free energy is not the real solution, well it can help but not actually the solution to save lives as paul says.
for me it can only make individual to make money.

i really want to hear a lot of views please participate.
any comment any views allowed, please.

Thanks everyone. ;)

i am repeating it here please make a comment. thanks ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 13, 2011, 10:41:44 PM

HHMmmm
A comment??
You tell crappy bed time stories!![your poor kids]

HHHmmm
I'm not so sure you should become a teacher of men?? [more training maybe]?

HHMMMmmm
You smell funny
--------------

I don't know Teets?? what kind of Comment??
About doing the right thing?? being a servant?? you shall know them by their works??
Like mags says Paying it forward?? not expecting anything in return?? Don't let the right hand know what the left is doing??

FAITH???

Comments
HHMmmmm?

Good night
Chet
PS
I just read the Gooses post [his big one].
Shmart Cookie that Goose and wise too............
But think about it Mr.Goose
This [OU] could be the way our creator ushers in the changes??
AND TEETS IS ALL TIGHT LIPPED??
Bad Teets Bad!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 13, 2011, 11:07:49 PM

Quote from: ElectricGoose on October 13, 2011, 09:25:41 PM
Hereâ€™s my two cents.

I have always stated that those who claim to be chasing free energy to better the world are either deluded or lying (both to others and themselves). The fact is that nearly everyone no matter how good the initial INTENTIONS all suddenly see $$$$$ signs and potential riches once they get a OU device in front of them. Why? Because this world is governed by money and life is becoming super expensive like nothing else not to mention the fact that people want all the â€˜toysâ€™ that the rich folk haveâ€¦.and here lies the problemâ€¦money money money!

The issue is NOT that humanity doesnâ€™t have free energy. It boils down to the fact that mankind does not follow the principles laid out in the Scriptures (donâ€™t worry, I wont go hard core Biblical here). However the fact is that if we all -
1)    LOVED one another
2)   Treated others as we wish to be treated
3)   Gave freely and unconditionally
4)   Showed kindness
5)   WORKED HARD WITH OUR HANDS ON THE LAND

This planet would be a â€˜paradiseâ€™ because there would be no â€˜wantsâ€™, no greed, no hunger, no pollution from idiotic plastic appliances that people buy today and throw out tomorrow! Think about it. What purchase has ever brought you happiness? That big car? That ipod? The big 60 inch flat screen? NONE! Do you cuddle your ipod at night and think â€œoh man Im so happyâ€. Of course not! I know what brings me happinessâ€¦.its actually LESS material things. I am happiest after a hard days work with a loved one in my arms, a good meal in my belly and a glass of wine in hand. Is that not all we need? Food, Love, a roof over the head and clothes on your back. Anything in addition to this is an excess and time wasting.

Sometimes I think about people like Casey Johnson (the heir to the Johnson and Johnson fortune who took her own life recently at age 29). This was a person who many would think SHOULD be the happiest person ever. She had all the money in the world (billions), never worked a day in her life, perpetually cruised the world, partied non stop and yet what happened? During the final two years of her life she was a mental wreck (and long before that). She had tried all sorts of relationships with men, then when that didnâ€™t work, hooked up in lesbo relationships and finally with that horror Tila tequila. In the end she was so distressed she took her life. Why? Because there was no purpose to it! We all need a purpose!!

I know many here will laff and say â€œI would be happy with a million (or 10)â€ but it wonâ€™t fix your problems. Look at all the folk that won lotto and it ruined their life. I challenge you to go talk with truly wealthy folk and see if they are happy. Look at their family unit. The parents spend so much time chasing the $$ that they never raised the kids properly with discipline and this destructive path in turn leads to a new generation of spoiled unhappy asshole children who despite having everything they want are miserable and on drugs. If you read honest accounts by great humble men, they all say the same thing â€œmoney was a cause of more pain and they wished they had spent the time in their life with family or on more important thingsâ€ Yes money can EASE your suffering a little but it is the striving after it that truly leads to empty devastating effects.

Have a look at the richest (and wisest) ruler who ever was (King Solomon)â€¦in the Bible account at Ecclesiastes he stated during his days â€œit is ALL vanity and a striving after the windâ€.

We were all meant to work hard and in doing so â€œsee good for our hard workâ€ which means that if we had a field of land and you toil planting some crops, it is you and your family that would reap the benefits! Have you seen how much a tiny piece of earth can produce? A few square metres will grow more vegetables than one man can consume! But what does mankind do??? He ruins the planet in the eternal quest to be top dog of the money pile (oil barron, iron barron or whatever)â€¦.what a stupidity and foolishness! Meanwhile the weather is affected and they pollute the very jewel we live on.

This leads into another topicâ€¦so many people do not wish to work. Once again the Scriptures state â€œIf anyone does not want to work, neither let him eatâ€!! God has no tolerance for lazy people and those that want things palmed out to them.

Anyway, I could go on but itâ€™s no good. Complete overhaul, zero money and God rule is the only thing that will fix this planet.

BTWâ€¦for those of you who wish to continue on with the silly â€˜dreamâ€™â€¦.there are other dangers that lie ahead. Yes OU is real but it makes you seriously ill if you are around it for even short lengths of time. Why? Its an imperfect version of the creative work and messes with the bodies biomechanics. It canâ€™t be shielded because there is a component which is superluminal and permeates all matter. Itâ€™s no coincidence that many a researcher who ever worked on this died of some sort of cancer.

As far as I can see all of the threads here are a long way from finding it anyway.

So long and all the best.

Bah Humbug! Lol well not to all of it ;]

It seems many do not get the advantages of FE OU

Energy is a big issue in the economy of the world. Even Tesla said, No better time than now. And you ask why? Teets?

A child, given the knowledge of how, would very soon understand the advantages. A child.

Nobody needs to live without air conditioning/heating. Many do. Not because they are all lazy.

What if it didnt cost in fuel to travel? What if everything were cheaper due to no fuel costs.

Whats your electric bill been like lately? Boy, if we could just save on those things, transportation fuel costs, and home energy costs. Let alone business costs, which come out of our pockets along with the home and car.

I wonder what the govt pays in electricity each year, out of your pocket. How much?

Ya want reasons why Teeets? You know all of them surely.

I could go on, but these 3 basic reasons cover a lot.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 13, 2011, 11:48:38 PM

It wont solve all problems.

It wont fix a broken heart. It wont necessarily stop disease. or cancer. It wont stop all people from being bad. And, it wont get ya to heaven. ;]

But maybe that broken heart would not have been if Jonny hadnt run out of gas.
And maybe more hospitals could help more people cheaper due to no energy costs. And the hospitals costs on equipment and other goods would be cheaper also. Cheaper for you.
Maybe some of the bad people wouldnt be so bad, being they have more cash and everyone else is quite happy, with the OU in their lives. just to remove these stresses in everyones lives, well, less stress. ;] There would have to be a sense of satisfaction in the world.

Thing is, it has to be safe.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: kooler on October 14, 2011, 12:55:40 AM

u know what it would fix.. nothing
ex.. a car that needed no fuel.. with in 10 years .. no gas stations.. how many jobs lost there..
imagine how crowded the roads would become and the road tax we would pay..
power plants switch to this new FE.. no coal to mine.. how many jobs lost..
i could go on and on about this.. domino effect from what i just wrote..
just imagine being dead winter.. power goes out but your house lit up like a xmas tree trust me you dont have friends till your neighbors come knocking..
and you have to point a gun at them to leave..
i have seen alot in forums the 2 yrs, i been in electronics and i watch ever word i say in a video.. ex.. when one asked and i say i cooked a diode to use it for feed back or maybe i just used a 5-8 volt sidac.. theres flaws in all my schematic's for a reason.. man my doctor told me not to drink for 6 months.. do you know how hard that is.. i'm fucking stupid drunk right now.. haha stupid me.. i'll see most of you in hell..
before i go .. think of this .. !! the flip flop circuit.. the oldest osc circuit in radios and tv's imagine one transistor OR mosfet being off and catching bemf from the on transistor and so on.. .. .. and the secondary putting out a modded sine wave causing a weird induction for output..
but who really gives a shit lets just keep building very low amp batterys.. .. lol
what we really know is these devices we see are easier then you think and we dont need over unity at all so go back to doing what you do before i wrote this.. happy halloween (early) folks..
later
robbie

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Hope on October 14, 2011, 02:20:58 AM

LOL Roads would be empty because if energy was feel we would all be flying. Many hardships would end. Growing food all year indoors would be easy. Millions of beneficial machines would be produced that just are not economical because of energy costs. Water anywhere for air condensers. Green everything cuz doing right would be very cheap. World peace!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 14, 2011, 04:47:56 AM

Quote from: Hope on October 14, 2011, 02:20:58 AM
LOL Roads would be empty because if energy was feel we would all be flying. Many hardships would end. Growing food all year indoors would be easy. Millions of beneficial machines would be produced that just are not economical because of energy costs. Water anywhere for air condensers. Green everything cuz doing right would be very cheap. World peace!

I agree.Our problem is very easy : we don't want to do things we should do. It's a perpetual cheating.We are not seeking the RIGTH SOLUTIONS, only those approved by system.
Of course roads are wasting resources, because we all should fly safetly.In air there is only one danger (and that would be eliminated almost perfectly),while there are many benefits : a lot of space (no traffic jam), no need complicated law,no need to repair road surface.
Every aspect of our social life is polluted by ideas of money,power, administration,law,interests and working in the right direction is treated like madness.
Of course a lot of jobs would be lost, but do we have a perfect world situation now where everybody has job, and job he dreamed of ? No. I worked for the last 13 years and now everything crashed due to crisis and I'm unemployed. Is that my fault ? No. There is no job for everyone, because our definition of job is incorrect. Job is not about making someone rich , creating stock and multiply profits. It's about making someone more spiritual happy and evolving and sharing and creating goods for everyone needs. Not just for some establishment, but for everyone.

OU would proof that every aspect of our life could be changed , for everyone, not just for us - lucky ones - but also for those who fight every day with poverty,illness and hate.

Unfortunately I don't see a way to change world even with free energy. I hope we would not be forced to do that due to some global disaster...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 14, 2011, 05:21:19 AM

Like Tito said , there is always the best solution, though we are not looking for it. :'(
We are even not trying to choose the correct way, while there are plenty of steps to pass before reaching the optimal solution even if we know what is it. Like transportation.
Every problem with transportation could be removed with antigravity small ships looking like cars but flying in air with some larger to transport goods. Surely most of goods should be produced in place only some are require to transport.That need people to live simple but fruitful and happy lives and drop the idea of consumption.No garbagge, no waste, no golden chains.Every good thing should be created for lifetime.Every good people action should be treated as work.Does the folk sculptor work when he is not selling his sculpture ? If this is his "spiritual advancement" the Yes, of course ; if that's not all he is doing ; if he also helps others with collecting foods of creating goods.Does'nt mother who care about her sick child work ? Oh, yeah, she is working hard.

There is crisis and huge unemployment,no jobs for everyone, no easy profit, yet there are plenty of work done every day which politicians and establishment do not count.

Happy work and duty. Ora and labora.

We are afraid what would happen if we defeat all sickeness,energy problems,resources wasting, food amount restrictions,poverty and hate.Because there would be no need for so many hospitals, fuel stations, shops and global corporations,army,administration and politicians. It would be wonderful place if we understood there would be still plenty of work, even if no jobs in current sense.

Btw. I really would like to build small factory and produce Ou devices which can help people from my village and I would be delighted if you join me in such enterprise - all of you and especially Tito, Ramset,Magluvin,Grizli,Wattsup. This is my small dream for future :) Together we could make wonderful things !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 14, 2011, 05:22:23 AM

Oh,I become garrulous ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on October 14, 2011, 06:32:51 AM

idle talk and water flows, people never learn from history.

missing jobs and work after FE comes to reality? or missing Activities?

You people realy do not have imagination, how you want imagine infinity when you are unable to imagine options of what FE offers?

Just excuses to your ego.

Borders where god stands? ....how poorly limited. :(

And you TITO, you want to be teacher????? your ego is limitless as I see.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on October 14, 2011, 07:10:36 AM

Quote from: IWD on October 14, 2011, 06:32:51 AM
idle talk and water flows, people never learn from history.

missing jobs and work after FE comes to reality? or missing Activities?

You people realy do not have imagination, how you want imagine infinity when you are unable to imagine options of what FE offers?

Just excuses to your ego.

Borders where god stands? ....how poorly limited. :(

And you TITO, you want to be teacher????? your ego is limitless as I see.

100% correct....no imagination.

ALL of the answers have focussed on â€œwhat ifâ€ surrounding money. Donâ€™t you guys see how erroneous your thought is?

Somebody worried about road taxes because of lost fuel revenue. Well thereâ€™s two faults there already. One you are saving a heap of money not having to pay for fuel so it really doesnâ€™t matter if the Govt starts charging you for extra tax somewhere else on roads!! LOL Secondly your whole thinking is circular!

Some of You guys think that if you get a free energy device it will open the way to saving that home heating bill or the car fuel bill or whatever BUT like I said, for as long as money exists you are always going to get burned in a zero sum game. Like the example of road taxes! The costs will just show up somewhere else for as long as a world monetary system exists.

The whole line of thought that we need â€˜moneyâ€™ or â€˜goodsâ€™ or â€˜jobsâ€™ to keep people busy and happy is so twisted and devlish itâ€™s sick. Donâ€™t any of you see that everything is geared for consumerism and making a buck until that buck stops at the rich guy sitting at the top? Funny thing is, that the cemetery is full of dead rich guys who died regretting slaving away for that stupid piece of paper.

Imagine a perfect world. You get up in the morning, you stoke the fire, grab some eggs from your own chickens out back (or the neighbour happily gives it to you because last week you gave him a bag of apples from your tree) and you have a leisurely breaky. Then rather than tearing to work in a polluting vehicle (or even FE vehicle) that some poor Jap had to slave 14 hours a day in a factory making for low wages, you walk out the back and look at the field of barley which is coming in nicely. You spend the day ripping weeds, tending a few head of sheep (not massive flocks because supermarkets no longer exist â€" another imperfect crazy system) and then you think that maybe tomorrow you will plant some trees along the fence to form a windbreak and protect against erosion. No such thoughts of legalities, corporate governance, carbon tax baloney enter your mind because this is all the way as things should have been in the first place by default. In fact, Lawyers donâ€™t even exist anymore. You head inside, weary but with a smile on your face. The smell of good cooking greets you and the sound of your happy children. No thoughts of banks repossessing your land worry you. Hellâ€¦you donâ€™t even need to worry about the weather because things have calmed down since the entire planet greened back up and people went back to community farming and life without money. Even if local â€˜disasterâ€™ (heavy rain) strikesâ€¦your neighbour is always there for you!

Yesâ€¦.you may say I am a dreamer but this promise is true and in the Bible.

You may laff and say it canâ€™t work. The Amish prove it does!! You need a barn or house or fence? The entire community chips in for a day or two!! No moneyâ€¦no expectations and you know what? The community is stronger for it! Have a look at the way WE live, secluded in polluting cities with locks on our doors (many of them), home invasions, s, murders! Why? 1) Nobody knows OR cares for each other hence no social shame and 2) the people stealing and murdering are usually TAKING for the purpose of MONEY. GREED GREED GREED.

To say we NEED OU or free energy is just a bandaid on broken system. The real issue was never energy or pollution by bad energy creating products its that someone invented money and then the whole thing got out of control.

Look what they do in medicine! Do we NEED drugs?? NO. I can hear people saying â€œyeh but I have cancer and need pfizers this or thatâ€. Once again your thinking is flawed. We are sick because of some very basic fundamental reasons. MONEY is the main reason that someone long ago decided to take all the wholesome food that was once natures medicine cabinet and then refine it into rubbish food with absolutely no nutrition left. No wonder we suffer from ailments and deficiencies.! Studies have shown that stress alone lowers the bodies immune function by at least 60% making you susceptible to anything from colds and flu to cancer. All that worry about money and money related issues. Where do you think all the best drugs come from? They have ALL been made from plants and then some are synthesized for mass production. The fact is, that if you ate a balanced diet from childhood up with no pollution in water and air, very few people would be sick at all. Anywayâ€¦.whatever

You want to change the world? Start with your country, your town, your village. Get educated, open your eyes and get angry that you donâ€™t have to live this way! The governments have been placed there by you so donâ€™t be afraid of them! If you want to change the world you have to tear the whole system down. Thatâ€™s what is happening in Syria and the middle East. It gets to a point where people are sick of everything and they take to the streets. Im not saying be violent or harm your neighbour or loot. I am saying put up your hand and march. If the entire population did it for just one week in America, the whole system would grind to a halt and change would be made. Problem is that only small groups usually protest and it is not enough to even make a scratch. The larger the government the larger the fear they hold over the people. However, they cannot and will not shoot an entire tide of people walking towards them demanding change.

If rather than that you think you will bring it about by some silly FE deviceâ€¦.its laughable. They have the entire legal and monetary system to squash you. Think you can power just your house with it? Word gets out and before long the power company is around saying illegal this or that because you are not a licensed electrician. Trumped up chargesâ€¦.taxesâ€¦whatever. Its endless. Break the machine that THEY use to rule you and THEN you have a hope.

Reflect on it and you will see that it is true.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 14, 2011, 07:38:06 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 13, 2011, 07:47:33 PM
@ the world

Hi everyone, a pleasant good day!

I want everyone to give their point of View about this free energy.

cause i really believe that this free energy is not the real solution, well it can help but not actually the solution to save lives as paul says.
for me it can only make individual to make money.

i really want to hear a lot of views please participate.
any comment any views allowed, please.

Thanks everyone. ;)

Though some of you attacks me personally, i still want to thank you everyone.

i want to hear more, i'll just tell my reason after ok?

Thanks ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 14, 2011, 01:15:26 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 14, 2011, 07:38:06 AM
Though some of you attacks me personally, i still want to thank you everyone.

i want to hear more, i'll just tell my reason after ok?

Thanks ;)

More? I think you have heard quite a bit after your request. ;]

Its nice when people give you what you want, isnt it? ;]

Imagine if I and the others just gave hints as to our opinions, and you had to figure the rest out for yourself. ;]

Its a shame that it is a one way street.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Hope on October 14, 2011, 03:35:52 PM

Jobs won't be as important any longer for cash. We will be able to be self sufficient and trading will be come our shopping. Life pursuits for self fulfillment will abound, people doing what the love will bring faster, greater advancements. Crime will become less and less when we build what we need and
our spiritual sides will grow. Communication will increase as will understanding the global community and world needs. Driving forces like hunger, heat, cooling, fuel, energy will fade in importance to be replaced with our natural drive for love, family, community, God. Vanity will fade to equality. Slavery to a few will be replaced with new motivation and willingness to put forth effort to better ourselves.
Do you think any father or mother anywhere in the world wants nothing less than a safe, prosperous world for their loved ones? This can be our common goal.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 14, 2011, 07:10:24 PM

Stivep and friends have figured out Kapanadze setup..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJBpNKSsdqw

This guy is a real trooper. Vid also shows him with Kap. ;]

God Bless him. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 14, 2011, 08:09:49 PM

congrats to stivep :)

@ the world FOR MY REAL REASON

I JUST WANT TO KNOW AND FEEL WHY NIKOLA TESLA LET THE FREE ENERGY DIE OR WHY PEOPLE WHO DISCOVERED THE SECRET LET IT BE KEPT.

ANYWAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL WHO PARTICIPATE AND NOW I GUESS I NOW KNOW A LITTLE THE REASON OF TESLA AND OTHERS. :)

OK
AS WHAT I SEE IN MY DEVICE IS THAT, THE REAL SECRET IS NOT THE COIL, CAP, DIODE, TRANSISTOR OR RESISTOR BUT THE CIRCUIT CONTROLLER ITSELF, YOU MUST HAVE THE FULL CONTROL OF THE INPUT CAUSE THE OUTPUT CAN BE DONE IN LOTS OF VARIATION IN CHUNKS OR DO IT IN ONE AS A WHOLE AND THAT IS THE TRUTH!

BUT!!!!!!! THE CAP PLAYS A MAJOR ROLE AS A SILENT EXPLOSIVE WITH UNLIMITED ENERGY. IT ACTS LIKE A DOOR FROM ENERGY OUTSIDE. :)

Thank you very much everyone God bless
Tito L. Oracion ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 14, 2011, 10:21:34 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 14, 2011, 08:09:49 PM

@ the world FOR MY REAL REASON

I JUST WANT TO KNOW AND FEEL WHY NIKOLA TESLA LET THE FREE ENERGY DIE OR WHY PEOPLE WHO DISCOVERED THE SECRET LET IT BE KEPT.

He didnt. He was open about it. You read it.

He was threatened. They burned his tower. All before the info got too far.

But it is certainly not dead Tito, is it? ;]

Thats why open source is the path. The only path that goes anywhere. Alone we are weak, together we are strong. No?

Still love ya Teets. :-*

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 14, 2011, 11:02:56 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 14, 2011, 10:21:34 PM
He didnt. He was open about it. You read it.

He was threatened. They burned his tower. All before the info got too far.

But it is certainly not dead Tito, is it? ;]

Thats why open source is the path. The only path that goes anywhere. Alone we are weak, together we are strong. No?

Still love ya Teets. :-*

Mags

Yes! Tesla is very open and he shared it in his books but there are people who deleted and kept lots of important information, especially The Fig 8. cause they know that this will change the way we use electricity.

But i want to thank them cause they left Fig 7 that made a hint for me to discover it. and that is their mistake :D lol

A tip @ the world

Study carefully and magnify the writings and drawings of tesla, cause we can found lots of gold and diamonds there promise!. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on October 14, 2011, 11:27:42 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 14, 2011, 11:02:56 PM
Yes! Tesla is very open and he shared it in his books but there are people who deleted and kept lots of important information, especially The Fig 8. cause they know that this will change the way we use electricity.

But i want to thank them cause they left Fig 7 that made a hint for me to discover it. and that is their mistake :D lol

A tip @ the world

Study carefully and magnify the writings and drawings of tesla, cause we can found lots of gold and diamonds there promise!. ;)

Your silly days teasing people are over Tito. Go away and hide in a corner like the scared little man you are. You had a chance to help and failed one of lifes tests big time. Live with it.

The truth is slowly coming out so dont act like you want to help now.

Nobody wants to hear your stupid 'clues' anymore.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 15, 2011, 05:27:01 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 14, 2011, 11:02:56 PM
Yes! Tesla is very open and he shared it in his books but there are people who deleted and kept lots of important information, especially The Fig 8. cause they know that this will change the way we use electricity.

But i want to thank them cause they left Fig 7 that made a hint for me to discover it. and that is their mistake :D lol

A tip @ the world

Study carefully and magnify the writings and drawings of tesla, cause we can found lots of gold and diamonds there promise!. ;)

Where is fig 7 and 8 ? Link ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 15, 2011, 07:13:06 AM

Quote from: ElectricGoose on October 14, 2011, 11:27:42 PM
Your silly days teasing people are over Tito. Go away and hide in a corner like the scared little man you are. You had a chance to help and failed one of lifes tests big time. Live with it.

The truth is slowly coming out so dont act like you want to help now.

Nobody wants to hear your stupid 'clues' anymore.

i don't know why there are low IQ in this forum.

what did i do to you man!!!!!? ??? i am happy if the truth is coming out.

why are you reading in my thread if your not happy here, >:(

WHY DON'T YOU GO AWAY!!! >:(
go away goose go away!!!!! tsuuuuu tsuuuu tsuuuuu :D :D :D

I DON'T NEED YOUR USELESS COMMENT !!!
I'M ALWAYS HEARING YOUR USELESS QWAK QWAK QWAK :D :D :D :D

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

YOU'RE MAKING ME BAD BAD BAD ;D
I SMELL A VERY DESPERATE GOOSE HEART IN YOU :D
OH HOW PITY YOU ARE :'(

YOU KNOW I HAVE A TIP TO YOU,
YOU GO TO MARKET THEN PURCHASE SOMEONE WHOm you CAN TALK TO,
ABOUT HOW MUCH IS ONE GOOSE,
YOU KNOW I EAT GOOSE :D ;D LOL

Yes! the truth will come out and i'll assure you that But you'll never know :P

You smell like a mueeeeeeeee mueeeeee mueeeeeeee why don't you take a bath!!!!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 15, 2011, 08:06:08 AM

Quote from: forest on October 15, 2011, 05:27:01 AM
Where is fig 7 and 8 ? Link ?

i think they were link to some little indian boy :D :D :D :D :D joke

tesla ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 15, 2011, 09:19:03 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 14, 2011, 11:02:56 PM
Yes! Tesla is very open and he shared it in his books but there are people who deleted and kept lots of important information, especially The Fig 8. cause they know that this will change the way we use electricity.

But i want to thank them cause they left Fig 7 that made a hint for me to discover it. and that is their mistake :D lol

A tip @ the world

Study carefully and magnify the writings and drawings of tesla, cause we can found lots of gold and diamonds there promise!. ;)

people complain about radiation all the time, Tesla wireless electricity would bring more complaints globally.

one high voltage worker said it was giving him cancer, evidence was the cancer on his leg from hanging his leg over the wire for years as a means to balance himself on the high wire.

it was the ionizing of his DNA that caused it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 15, 2011, 01:46:36 PM

Quote from: forest on October 15, 2011, 05:27:01 AM
Where is fig 7 and 8 ? Link ?

I was thinking the same thing. If fig 8 is missing, how does he know it existed, if there is only a fig 7. ;]

Or is fig 8 an expression of a coil, as maybe 7 is also.

8 = twist

7= right angle/perpendicular

Or in a pat/book, fig 7 is shown and in the text a fig 8 is mentioned but is missing, but fig 7 is a clue to 8.

Oh well, I doubt it is a solid clue that would be easily found. If Tito wants money for the idea, then I doubt that we can come to a conclusion from the clues.
Because then there would be no money. ;]

Does it make sense? " I will sell for $3 mil, but if you get it from my clues, I will be happy."

Sorry Teets. But how else can we explain it? ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on October 15, 2011, 03:31:17 PM

Looks like Tito makes fun of the rest of the world. He wants from us to be serious about him and when you want him to be serious about you, he's just laughing into your nose.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on October 15, 2011, 06:40:55 PM

Quote from: Qwert on October 15, 2011, 03:31:17 PM
Looks like Tito makes fun of the rest of the world. He wants from us to be serious about him and when you want him to be serious about you, he's just laughing into your nose.

Exactly

Hey Tito. Youre a nothing child. A little Judas who thinks he has friends because people are so desperate for free energy they suck up to a little uneducted pretender like you. Tease people with the LIES then laugh in their face. Wow, what a Christian.

Youre going to choke on your 30 pieces of Silver buddy hahahaahaaha. Remember what happened to Judas after that? He was so disgusted with himself he threw the money away, then went to a cliff to try hang himself. The tree branch broke and he fell to the sharp rocks below which disembowelled him.

Poetic justice baby.

BTW people here is the link for fig 7 and 8.

Unless you know the entire 'formula' and the other 10 pieces of puzzle you will still be scratching your head. Information is interpreted differently for everyone.

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/truewire.htm

Tito mentioning these is another way of saying "I found yet something else you don't know about and Im not gonna tell ya". Its little school child games. Stop indulging him.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 15, 2011, 07:44:01 PM

Quote from: ElectricGoose on October 15, 2011, 06:40:55 PM
Exactly

Hey Tito. Youre a nothing child. A little Judas who thinks he has friends because people are so desperate for free energy they suck up to a little uneducted pretender like you. Tease people with the LIES then laugh in their face. Wow, what a Christian.

Youre going to choke on your 30 pieces of Silver buddy hahahaahaaha. Remember what happened to Judas after that? He was so disgusted with himself he threw the money away, then went to a cliff to try hang himself. The tree branch broke and he fell to the sharp rocks below which disembowelled him.

Poetic justice baby.

BTW people here is the link for fig 7 and 8.

Unless you know the entire 'formula' and the other 10 pieces of puzzle you will still be scratching your head. Information is interpreted differently for everyone.

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/truewire.htm

Tito mentioning these is another way of saying "I found yet something else you don't know about and Im not gonna tell ya". Its little school child games. Stop indulging him.

qwak, qwak qwak qwak qwak :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

you really can't understand ape english do you?,

I SAID GO AWAY IN MY THREAD!!!! YOU DIRTY JUDAS!!! >:( >:(
YOU ARE THE JUDAS!!!

I WILL NOT HANG MY SELF! I WILL HANG YOU AND EAT YOU GOOSE :D

@ THE WORLD

I THINK ITS ENOUGH ALREADY CAUSE THEY ARE DISCOVERING IT NOW IN TK THREAD CONGRATULATION EVERYONE BYE.

SORRY FOR EVERYTHING OKAY

@ GOOSE LAB YA :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on October 15, 2011, 08:36:16 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 15, 2011, 07:44:01 PM
qwak, qwak qwak qwak qwak :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

you really can't understand ape english do you?,

I SAID GO AWAY IN MY THREAD!!!! YOU DIRTY JUDAS!!! >:( >:(
YOU ARE THE JUDAS!!!

I WILL NOT HANG MY SELF! I WILL HANG YOU AND EAT YOU GOOSE :D

@ THE WORLD

I THINK ITS ENOUGH ALREADY CAUSE THEY ARE DISCOVERING IT NOW IN TK THREAD CONGRATULATION EVERYONE BYE.

SORRY FOR EVERYTHING OKAY

@ GOOSE LAB YA :-*

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....so much fun laffing at a little fool like you Tito hahahahahaha.

I have a policy of not arguing with children or village idiots, and considering you are both I will be ignoring you from now on.

I will post here plenty of times though and help the people. Thanks for inviting me!!

BTW DUCKS quak and geese HONK.

HONK HONK HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONK!!

See ya later banana seller

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 16, 2011, 07:50:42 AM

Quote from: ElectricGoose on October 15, 2011, 08:36:16 PM
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....so much fun laffing at a little fool like you Tito hahahahahaha.

I have a policy of not arguing with children or village idiots, and considering you are both I will be ignoring you from now on.

I will post here plenty of times though and help the people. Thanks for inviting me!!

BTW DUCKS quak and geese HONK.

HONK HONK HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONK!!

See ya later banana seller

who invited you, i did not invite you, you invited your self you village idiot fool!!!!!

no one here is inviting you, i said go away don't you understand that?

You are not welcome here idiot!!!!!!!

you are not helping people!!!!!! you are a great discourager!!!.

why don't you make your own thread and let us see if they will make a comment or happy talking with you,

Go make your own thread and talk to yourself.

you really making me mad >:(

i'll repeat and i said to you that you go to market and purchase someone to whom you can talk to. :D

you really don't understand an ape english do you?

qwak qwak qwak, i think you understand that! :D

That means we don't need your senseless comment here your just wasting our time!!!! >:(

Tsuuuuupi tsuuupi tsuuupHHHHHHHi :D

You know i'm not doing anything to you!!!!!!!! >:(
anything i'm writing here can be ignore but you are insulting me, is that what you call yourself a good helper or a christian!

i'm really trying to make a peace to everyone but you are provoking me, turkey brain!
go away!!! you shameless goose!!!! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Groundloop on October 16, 2011, 07:58:47 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cO7Cz9J_NU&ob=av2n

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 16, 2011, 08:06:38 AM

Quote from: Qwert on October 15, 2011, 03:31:17 PM
Looks like Tito makes fun of the rest of the world. He wants from us to be serious about him and when you want him to be serious about you, he's just laughing into your nose.

No! i only write here and i answers if i want to answer

and!!!!! you can ignore all you don't want here ok! got it! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 16, 2011, 08:38:55 AM

i'm sorry everyone i don't really want to talk like a moron but they are provoking me.

why they don't ban these people => E-goose, mr.mag, HV or hiv?.you can really sense them like a devil in the thread. :D

Even they change their id name, we can still sense them isn't it? cause they are smelly :D :D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on October 16, 2011, 09:51:54 AM

Quote from: Groundloop on October 16, 2011, 07:58:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cO7Cz9J_NU&ob=av2n

.

LOL...funny stuff Groundloop. Fat chicks singing badly.

Here's a song I dedicate to this thread and all the banana sellers named Tito out there! Very apt....Yes, this man playing the guitar is called Tito...and no free energy here either because he lacks resonance (badly outta tune).

Thanks for inviting me back Tito!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cR6z20lgBk

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on October 16, 2011, 10:56:11 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 16, 2011, 08:06:38 AM
No! i only write here and i answers if i want to answer

and!!!!! you can ignore all you don't want here ok! got it! >:(

actually, you several times promised something, what you violate. That is simple fact.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 16, 2011, 11:17:10 AM

Tito, please where is Fig 7 and 8 ? Tesla patent or notes or .... ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on October 16, 2011, 01:55:30 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 16, 2011, 08:06:38 AM
No! i only write here and i answers if i want to answer

and!!!!! you can ignore all you don't want here ok! got it! >:(

Why then, you recently ignore forest? I never seen any bad word from him to you. And you don't answer his questions or just turn his questions to make fun of him.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on October 16, 2011, 01:56:27 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 16, 2011, 08:38:55 AM
i'm sorry everyone i don't really want to talk like a moron but they are provoking me.

why they don't ban these people => E-goose, mr.mag, HV or hiv?.you can really sense them like a devil in the thread. :D

You really don't need us to provoke you to talk like a moron. You are doing fine all by yourself.
You don't like us because we see you as the liar that you are. You keep promising to tell us what you have but then you change your mind and never say anything. You get mad and say goodbye but always come back just to see how many people you can suck into your lies. You are such an attention grabber that if you really did have something you would of released it long ago.

The sooner this thread dies, the better.

And as far as your comment;

"OK
AS WHAT I SEE IN MY DEVICE IS THAT, THE REAL SECRET IS NOT THE COIL, CAP, DIODE, TRANSISTOR OR RESISTOR BUT THE CIRCUIT CONTROLLER ITSELF, YOU MUST HAVE THE FULL CONTROL OF THE INPUT CAUSE THE OUTPUT CAN BE DONE IN LOTS OF VARIATION IN CHUNKS OR DO IT IN ONE AS A WHOLE AND THAT IS THE TRUTH!"

This applies to anything. How gullable do you think we are.

Example,

OK
AS WHAT I SEE IN MY CAR IS THAT, THE REAL SECRET IS NOT THE MOTOR, WHEELS, BODY, TRANSMISSION OR BRAKES BUT HOW THEY ARE TIED TOGETHER, YOU MUST HAVE THE FULL CONTROL OF THE GAS CAUSE THE OUTPUT CAN BE DONE IN LOTS OF VARIATION IN CHUNKS OR DO IT IN ONE AS A WHOLE AND THAT IS THE TRUTH!

I did leave here for a while but since you mentioned my name, I felt obligated to reply to you. Thank-you for the invitation back into the thread.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on October 16, 2011, 06:34:32 PM

Quote from: forest on October 16, 2011, 11:17:10 AM
Tito, please where is Fig 7 and 8 ? Tesla patent or notes or .... ?

Forest I told you guys a page ago

Link below.

Quote from: ElectricGoose on October 15, 2011, 06:40:55 PM
BTW people here is the link for fig 7 and 8.

Unless you know the entire 'formula' and the other 10 pieces of puzzle you will still be scratching your head. Information is interpreted differently for everyone.

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/truewire.htm

Tito mentioning these is another way of saying "I found yet something else you don't know about and Im not gonna tell ya". Its little school child games. Stop indulging him.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on October 16, 2011, 06:38:27 PM

Quote from: MrMag on October 16, 2011, 01:56:27 PM
You really don't need us to provoke you to talk like a moron. You are doing fine all by yourself.
You don't like us because we see you as the liar that you are. You are such an attention grabber that if you really did have something you would of released it long ago.

The sooner this thread dies, the better.

Agree...but it's pointless arguing with him. He is in his own little world and beyond reasoning. How can you talk to someone who blames others for his own actions??!

He's just a wannabee

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 16, 2011, 07:32:07 PM

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

oh boy you really don't understand an ape english.
especially this old bald goooose :D :D :D :D :D

did you see an old bald goose look like and how they qwak? lol hahahahahahhahahahahhahahahah ;D

i think i'm wasting my time here, cause these devils made my thread a meeting place of the demons :D :D :D :D :D :D lol

give me a break!!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 16, 2011, 07:38:26 PM

Quote from: forest on October 16, 2011, 11:17:10 AM
Tito, please where is Fig 7 and 8 ? Tesla patent or notes or .... ?

sorry buddy, i can't tell you, maybe some other time.

cause i was so disappointed with these demons here :D

but see that is one way of catching a lot of demons :D :D :D :D lol

where is HV lol, c-mon don't be shy join them lol hahahahahahahahhhahaha

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 16, 2011, 07:49:03 PM

@ everyone

You take a look and you can really discern these devils in the forum, first you can't get anything from them, secondly you can see in their writings that they don't really have anything but a senseless comment. :D :D :D :D lol

as if they are really helping like an angel of light. :D :D :D :D lol

i now believe that demons are really truth :D :D :D

study their comment, they are really always in bad moves, and they are really easy to find :D :D :D lol hahahahahahahaha

Thank God there is God cause they cannot control everything. :D :D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 16, 2011, 08:03:28 PM

Quote from: MrMag on October 16, 2011, 01:56:27 PM
You really don't need us to provoke you to talk like a moron. You are doing fine all by yourself.
You don't like us because we see you as the liar that you are. You keep promising to tell us what you have but then you change your mind and never say anything. You get mad and say goodbye but always come back just to see how many people you can suck into your lies. You are such an attention grabber that if you really did have something you would of released it long ago.

The sooner this thread dies, the better.

And as far as your comment;

"OK
AS WHAT I SEE IN MY DEVICE IS THAT, THE REAL SECRET IS NOT THE COIL, CAP, DIODE, TRANSISTOR OR RESISTOR BUT THE CIRCUIT CONTROLLER ITSELF, YOU MUST HAVE THE FULL CONTROL OF THE INPUT CAUSE THE OUTPUT CAN BE DONE IN LOTS OF VARIATION IN CHUNKS OR DO IT IN ONE AS A WHOLE AND THAT IS THE TRUTH!"

This applies to anything. How gullable do you think we are.

Example,

OK
AS WHAT I SEE IN MY CAR IS THAT, THE REAL SECRET IS NOT THE MOTOR, WHEELS, BODY, TRANSMISSION OR BRAKES BUT HOW THEY ARE TIED TOGETHER, YOU MUST HAVE THE FULL CONTROL OF THE GAS CAUSE THE OUTPUT CAN BE DONE IN LOTS OF VARIATION IN CHUNKS OR DO IT IN ONE AS A WHOLE AND THAT IS THE TRUTH!

I did leave here for a while but since you mentioned my name, I felt obligated to reply to you. Thank-you for the invitation back into the thread.

Seeeeee ladies and gentlemen :D

how easily they can make your word into nothing or lies, oh boy the devil is really good in lying. but if you're really good, you know what is truth isn't it?

i think we have to make a thread studying the works of the demons :D :D :D lol hahahahahahhahaha

see i am now especializing in combating them lol hahahahaha :D :D :D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 16, 2011, 08:06:38 PM

Quote from: IWD on October 16, 2011, 10:56:11 AM

actually, you several times promised something, what you violate. That is simple fact.

you know man, everything change depends on the situation ok ;D

regards IUD :D :D :D lol joke

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 16, 2011, 09:11:22 PM

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@EVERYONE

I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR UNPLEASANT WORDS THAT WAS WRITTEN HERE, IT IS NOT MY INTENTION TO WRITE THESE WORDS BECAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T HELP.

BUT BECAUSE OF SOME REASON, IT HAS TO BE WROTE.

AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS HAPPENING.

I CANNOT ANSWER SOME QUESTION FOR THE REASON OF SECURITY OK SORRY. :)

DON'T BOTHER YOURSELF TO SOME DEMONIC COMMENT OK, JUST FOR FUN. ;D

ALL I HAVE COMMENTED RECENTLY ARE TRUTH, WELL I'M REFERRING TO THE TECHNOLOGY OK?.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 17, 2011, 02:01:20 AM

Please don't mix your blind faith with factual science, it is very annoying.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 17, 2011, 04:06:57 AM

I AM DOING AN APOLOGIZING FOR SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T START THEN YOU YOU BUMP ME THAT THING! >:(

SO WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO, ANNOYED MAN?

MANY TIMES IN MY EXPERIENCE THAT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT I REALLY CAN SEE IT BUT IN THE END I'M WRONG, SO BE CAREFUL MAN CAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS => 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 17, 2011, 10:24:51 AM

"The problem of increasing human energy" Fig 7 and Fig 8 . That's all I found. Quite inspiring though, read descriptions.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on October 17, 2011, 10:40:51 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 17, 2011, 04:06:57 AM
SO WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO, ANNOYED MAN?

Tito, since I see you as a dedicated religious guy, my advice to you is to go to your community church and confess everything to an authorized person of your choice (a priest, a pastor, a minister, etc., how ever you call them). Show him (her) this thread and your latest activity in it; let them judge you; Since you show your anger, and an anger is a serious sin, this solution seems to be just right. I am convinced that you need to see a real person in front of you, since on computer you see only strings of letters and you simply don't recognize us (the forum community) as real people.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on October 17, 2011, 06:11:46 PM

QuoteSince you show your anger, and an anger is a serious sin, this solution seems to be just right.

Anger is a healthy human reaction, and sometimes the only honourable action. Coming from Tito's tradition, I know that...

Jesus was angry when he cleansed the Temple of money changers -- (Matthew 21:12-13; Mark 11:15-18; John 2:13-22).

Jesus became angry at the pharisees and lawyers who had no real interest in justice or kindness, but only sought to discredit his message. (Mark 3,5)

What could be more right than preserving your safety for the sake of your mission in life to provide for your family? I'd get angry with this kind of harrassment. And yet, Tito kindly continues to hand out clues. A lotta guys would've left a long time ago.

Tito, you're not perfect, but you've gone above and beyond, man. Thanks for all you've shared.

Anger is permissible for the right reasons.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 17, 2011, 07:18:34 PM

I am really so sorry for all unpleasant things that i had said in this thread. I do not meant to say all of that. though i was insulted and heard a lot of bad words to someone, i will forgive you. You are still an older brother to me.:) just a little joke ok. :D

AND FOR THE SAKE OF CONTINUES RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT OF FREE ENERGY OR OVERUNITY AND FOR KEEPING ITS VIRGIN STATE, NOW I DECIDE NOT TO TEACH ANYMORE THE CIRCUIT CONTROLLER WHICH IS THE ONLY THING I AM HOLDING AS THE REAL TRUTH THAT I REDISCOVERED FROM TESLA.

@Bro. bob
You just build my respect to you sir. :)
and because of that, i will try not to talk unpleasant words anymore in this
forum and that is just for you sir. :) hope i can keep my promise. :D

And to everyone,
you can now say bad words to me and insult me and i will not respond. for the sake of my promise :)

by the way please allow me to make sense of humors cause i always want everybody laughing and please don't take them seriously ok? ;)
;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 18, 2011, 07:02:42 PM

Hey Forest

Is this the, charge in parallel and discharge in series circuit you were looking for? ;]

Marx Generator.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 18, 2011, 07:05:34 PM

Im thinking maybe zener diodes can replace the spark gaps. Or maybe SIDACs.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on October 18, 2011, 11:01:28 PM

Magluvin, go again to the same page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx_generator
then scroll down to the "See also" subtitle. There you'll find the link to "Cocroft-Walton generator"; this is the only way to get there, impossible to get there independently. Probably there you'll find solution for your concerns.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 19, 2011, 03:56:12 AM

. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 19, 2011, 09:19:51 PM

Quote from: forest on October 19, 2011, 03:56:12 AM
. ;D

Hey Forest

Why the deleted post? Thats a Tito move. ;]

Anyways, was thinking about why this circuit is useful.

The only thing I can think is that HV and less amps= eff

Ive known about voltage doublers/multipliers for a while. Just never thought of why high voltage.

Ive seen the diode doublers, but this was the first ive seen where spark gaps were used. I suppose we could mix it up. ;]

One thing I might say, this is probably more eff than a transformer step up.

And the fig8 Is it caduceus coil? I watched some vids on Caduceus. It would seem that most definitions are spirals, starting small and getting larger. But these coils(as shown), have spiral along a tube. The one thing I see with them(coil) is that the winding never follows along with another winding of the same coil, only crossings. Low self inductance between windings.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on October 21, 2011, 11:36:24 AM

Quote from: forest on October 19, 2011, 03:56:12 AM
. ;D

I was trying to connect several transformers paralery, also with series, also combination of both (like primaries in series and secondaries in paraler and oposite), I was trying do pulse it directly by various timing, also discharge a capacitor to them, and also conect output do input.
but no Gain.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 21, 2011, 03:05:51 PM

Quote from: IWD on October 21, 2011, 11:36:24 AM
I was trying to connect several transformers paralery, also with series, also combination of both (like primaries in series and secondaries in paraler and oposite), I was trying do pulse it directly by various timing, also discharge a capacitor to them, and also conect output do input.
but no Gain.

:'( something is weird then, I hope my device will rather work, but have no time for now. Actually I have to finish ferromagnetic device ::) also 2,5kW planned
then sonic heater then heat my house then make induction cooker and kettle then electric generator 10kW for house usage then novel water purifier then novel electric car then novel antygravity propulsion simplified then ..... ;D ;D ;D

do I catched Titoilness ??? :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 21, 2011, 10:29:24 PM

Quote from: IWD on October 21, 2011, 11:36:24 AM
I was trying to connect several transformers paralery, also with series, also combination of both (like primaries in series and secondaries in paraler and oposite), I was trying do pulse it directly by various timing, also discharge a capacitor to them, and also conect output do input.
but no Gain.

Yes, this is expected normally cause the tricky part is missing. ;D

ok. There should be a point in half that it can carry its weight, so that it can complete a cycle. ;)

Then when a cycle continues, then expect unlimited work, then work becomes work then that is gain. ;)

then make a split connection for the gain of gain then collect until such time its together again. :D

its funny but true :D :D :D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 21, 2011, 11:16:57 PM

:P

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on October 22, 2011, 12:02:59 AM

Hi, all.
Are you guys aware of this (short) work / concept?

http://www.google.com/search?q=FREE+ENERGY+NIKOLA+TESLA+SECRETS+FOR+EVERYBODY+By+Vladimir+Utkin+u.v%40bk.ru&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

I also found very useful book as an addition to my previous suggestions:

http://blockyourid.com/~gbpprorg/mil/herf/High_Voltage_Experimenters_Handbook.pdf

Anyway, I've just concluded that guys attempts to start to build from scratch while there probably are ready components of higher stages available as parts of television sets, microwave heaters, etc. The above book - HV Experimenters Handbook can give helpful tips to this knowledge.
My concept of using Marx Generator I found in a site about the "E-bomb", here is one of them:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread59555/pg1

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wings on October 22, 2011, 01:35:07 AM

Quote from: Qwert on October 22, 2011, 12:02:59 AM
Hi, all.
Are you guys aware of this (short) work / concept?

http://www.google.com/search?q=FREE+ENERGY+NIKOLA+TESLA+SECRETS+FOR+EVERYBODY+By+Vladimir+Utkin+u.v%40bk.ru&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

I also found very useful book as an addition to my previous suggestions:

http://blockyourid.com/~gbpprorg/mil/herf/High_Voltage_Experimenters_Handbook.pdf

Anyway, I've just concluded that guys attempts to start to build from scratch while there probably are ready components of higher stages available as parts of television sets, microwave heaters, etc. The above book - HV Experimenters Handbook can give helpful tips to this knowledge.

and
http://www.scribd.com/doc/52148599/kapanadze

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 22, 2011, 03:53:42 AM

The secret Tito mentioned I think is visible in Mr Aviso videos. The switching method. Tesla method of convertion. You cannot move hot electricity back to source, you can do that with cold one

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 22, 2011, 05:34:45 AM

ok!

i want you to answer this question first ok?

==== IS THERE A DIFFERENCE TO A CAP CHARGED BY 12 VOLTS 1AMP AND
OTHER CAP CHARGED BY 12 VOLTS 2AMP
NOTE: SAME 5uf at least 300volts not really a big deal

THEN LET SAY WE DISCHARGE THE IST CAP INTO A COIL WITH 1H
AND WE DISCHARGE ALSO THE 2ND CAP INTO A COIL WITH 1H ALSO,

IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IF LET SAY THOSE COILS HAVE THEIR EQUAL SECONDARIES ALSO ?

at THIS POINT MY REASON IS SECRET BUT!!!

IF YOU GOT IT THEN FINE, KEEP IT congrats ;)

oh boy free energy is really a simple charge and discharge isn't it? and still we are still scruitinizing it up to now lol ;)

To achieve our goal to win like for example in boxing, we have to make a lot of practice isn't it? The secret is not your hand but it is the way how you move, and that is how you control your whole body isn't it?. that's why A LOT OF PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT MOVE ;)

ESSENTIAL PART OF CONTROL IS
A) SENSE OF EARS
B) SENSE OF EYES
C) COMMON SENSE :D :D :D LOL

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 22, 2011, 08:14:16 AM

now the point is how to charge caps with a lot of amps and quickly ? joule thief idea may help but here are not many amps, should we use many joule thief to get more amps or maybe we need a lopp when voltage is stable but amps in cap is rising
see the point ? working on it

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 22, 2011, 09:49:27 AM

TEETSLA
Are you becoming Teachsla??

------------
Boxing????
Sometimes I want to Punch you [Lots]
Sometimes I want to Hug you [squeeze......]

But most times I just want to do the right thing ,I can't always do it ...But I try!

Thanks for trying Teets!!

Your friend ,

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on October 22, 2011, 10:02:18 AM

Recently I have read somewhere in those publications I posted, about CONTROLLING the energy; isn't it at the recent discussion at Kapanadze thread about the "Flyback Transformer" and its principles?

Edit:
"The Fitch circuit is becoming popular where very good control over impulse voltage is required" according to High Voltage Experimenter's Handbook, link posted in my previous post, here is the link to the "Fitch":
http://home.earthlink.net/~jimlux/hv/fitch.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 25, 2011, 09:02:21 PM

i just want them here ok ::)

http://www.fight-4-truth.com/Schematics.html
http://underservice.org/index.php?topic=5.0

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 16, 2011, 08:31:33 PM

For the good of mankind :)

Final tip from Titus the great interrupter ;)

The faster the faster the better the better cutter the peanut butter ;D

The faster the smaller the throw but the bigger the magnifico :D

And that is the real secret of tesla in colorado. :)

Cause the effect of self induction in a wire gives extra strength and serve as a resistance, and for a cap, damp a little in a very peak point. :o

Another tip : look very closely about the connection in patents of producing currents of high freq. ;)

do you know that manny pacquio and I has the same birthday ???

good day good year, Jesus is coming very soon, repent and believe him for your soul ok ;)

Give me a big reason why this method wouldn't work!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9irQJ6mivs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9irQJ6mivs)

i think i am now cleared
and i think you will now love me more :)

Merry Christmas and God Bless :)

Otits L. Noicaro

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 17, 2011, 02:01:45 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 16, 2011, 08:31:33 PM
For the good of mankind :)

Final tip from Titus the great interrupter ;)

The faster the faster the better the better cutter the peanut butter ;D

The faster the smaller the throw but the bigger the magnifico :D

And that is the real secret of tesla in colorado. :)

Cause the effect of self induction in a wire gives extra strength and serve as a resistance, and for a cap, damp a little in a very peak point. :o

Another tip : look very closely about the connection in patents of producing currents of high freq. ;)

do you know that manny pacquio and I has the same birthday ???

good day good year, Jesus is coming very soon, repent and believe him for your soul ok ;)

Give me a big reason why this method wouldn't work!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9irQJ6mivs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9irQJ6mivs)

i think i am now cleared
and i think you will now love me more :)

Merry Christmas and God Bless :)

Otits L. Noicaro

Excellent ! Thanks!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 17, 2011, 03:46:42 AM

Quote from: forest on November 17, 2011, 02:01:45 AM

Excellent ! Thanks!

;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on November 17, 2011, 08:39:31 AM

Good day to all!

Thank you sir Tito for sharing your idea!

I've always beleive on what you are saying in this thread, since the first time that i've read your post a few moths ago, i tried experimenting with it, and found that you can amplify energy with this set up AC or DC, i've waited until this time that you reveal your secret! that any body reading this thread would appreciate, most of all your detractors! ;D hehehe!

I have a question? how did you manage to maintain the parts used to switch the circuit? co'z in my experiments when you switch it, using an ordinary relay, it created a powerful spark gap that eats the contacts of the relay, what should i do with it?

Any comment would be much appreciated.... Happy Birthday! ;D and GOD Bless you! ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 17, 2011, 09:00:36 AM

"Another tip : look very closely about the connection in patents of producing currents of high freq. [/size]"

Do you mean connection on schematics or connection between patents ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Kator01 on November 17, 2011, 09:00:52 AM

Works what ?

He is simply guessing. He just claims that he did not spend any energy from the battery.
What a nonsense !

When he shorts this battery for 0.1 second, he will have a current of about 150 A. Actually this is a guess on my side, as there is no value for the inductance given therefore we do not know the time-contant, but I am sure it is much smaller the 0.1 seconds so this current can build up easily. Voltage will drop because of this 150 A by 1.5 to 2 Volt. ( U = 150 A times 0.01 ohm inner resistance of battery) Than 22 V left times 150 A in 0.1 second equals
energy spent = 330 Joule = Wattsec.

Now he has 190 Volt left in a 30 myF Capacitor. Energie stored in a capacitor E = 1/2 times Uexp2 times C which gives stored energy in the cap E= 0.547 Joule = Wattsec.

Efficiency 1.65 exp -3 equals 0.1657 % !!

For goddnes sake this really works !!! ....as an energy dumper.

Please stop posting this nonsense and do calculation yourself before you distract the attention of the members and waste their time.

Kator01

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 16, 2011, 08:31:33 PM
For the good of mankind :)

Final tip from Titus the great interrupter ;)

The faster the faster the better the better cutter the peanut butter ;D

The faster the smaller the throw but the bigger the magnifico :D

And that is the real secret of tesla in colorado. :)

Cause the effect of self induction in a wire gives extra strength and serve as a resistance, and for a cap, damp a little in a very peak point. :o

Another tip : look very closely about the connection in patents of producing currents of high freq. ;)

do you know that manny pacquio and I has the same birthday ???

good day good year, Jesus is coming very soon, repent and believe him for your soul ok ;)

Give me a big reason why this method wouldn't work!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9irQJ6mivs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9irQJ6mivs)

i think i am now cleared
and i think you will now love me more :)

Merry Christmas and God Bless :)

Otits L. Noicaro

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on November 17, 2011, 10:14:00 AM

@ Kator01

Please stop posting this nonsense and do calculation yourself before you distract the attention of the members and waste their time.[/size]
[/size]
Question? how come its a waste of time?

If we pulse it at the right speed or frequency, we can lessen the amps used but produce 10x the voltage of the battery or more, which can light a 220v 100W bulb or if you use a fwbr and dc capacitor it can charge other batteries like the relay radiant charger, depending on the coil,capacitor,battery used determines the output voltage. i dont know much calculations but doing actual experimentations will yield results! please correct me if im wrong.

Good day sir!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 17, 2011, 12:29:13 PM

Ive seen some of NRG's vids a while ago.

Being Teets is showing them again, I went to look more.

This guy uploaded all the vids at once and never uploaded again, nor any more activity on his acct. The day he logged in for the first time. No comments allowed for any.

One thing interesting is the cap is 30uf, and the coil is 30 ohms(800 turn bifi )
24v/30ohm(min)=.8A 24vx.8A=19 intial possible watts. The bifi may consume or absorb more due to capacitance in the bifi.

Whats interesting is the ability to get over 200v into the 30uf cap. In the past, I cant recall ever getting that much into a cap of this value using diodes. Not like this.

So its worth investigating. I never gave it much thought till now, assuming it was just another boost supply circuit, but no diode.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 17, 2011, 07:36:26 PM

Quote from: Kator01 on November 17, 2011, 09:00:52 AM
Works what ?

He is simply guessing. He just claims that he did not spend any energy from the battery.
What a nonsense !

When he shorts this battery for 0.1 second, he will have a current of about 150 A. Actually this is a guess on my side, as there is no value for the inductance given therefore we do not know the time-contant, but I am sure it is much smaller the 0.1 seconds so this current can build up easily. Voltage will drop because of this 150 A by 1.5 to 2 Volt. ( U = 150 A times 0.01 ohm inner resistance of battery) Than 22 V left times 150 A in 0.1 second equals
energy spent = 330 Joule = Wattsec.

Now he has 190 Volt left in a 30 myF Capacitor. Energie stored in a capacitor E = 1/2 times Uexp2 times C which gives stored energy in the cap E= 0.547 Joule = Wattsec.

Efficiency 1.65 exp -3 equals 0.1657 % !!

For goddnes sake this really works !!! ....as an energy dumper.

Please stop posting this nonsense and do calculation yourself before you distract the attention of the members and waste their time.

Kator01

@katok01
Int the first place You should not posted here if your just wasting your time! got that logic man!? just because you seem in your calculation you are right,
i think you are more genius than tesla, in tesla's calculation that he only needs 10watts of energy to make thousands of thousands of horse power. ;D

I'M ACTUALLY ALREADY MADE MY CALCULATION AND YOU ARE 1000% WRONG. ;D :D

Are you really don't understand it up to now or you are just pretending and try to suppressed this info. oooooppps don't, don't post cause you waste your time genius! ;D and also don't read tesla's book its really a waste of time, brilliant man. lol ;D

These kind of person really sometimes the reason why i'm lazy to give truth info., really hmmm :D
They are really genius but knowing nothing about the real thing that is actually happening ;D whoa what a rhyme ;D

@forest
i just want you to focus on the momentum of the motor to continue rotating in increasing speed. nothing personal actually hehehe. :D

@crazycut
your name is crazy but you think wisely, its really amazing isn't it?, actually by using only one way we can solve this problem and by cap combination and some heavy duty material it can be really minimized into a point that you can already make a backup ok?, this is just a basic problem and if symptom persist, you can actually consult your doctor for this ok? joke :D

let say for example why in motor they are using carbon brush? that is because carbon is already the product of fire so the logic means carbon brush is best conductor and no worry for burn out. :D

THAT'S IT! I'M LAZY AGAIN!!!
;)

I think next time i'll just write personal on you so that genius members are not being bothered with their nonsense computation :D lo hahahahahhaha.

OTITS L. NOICARO

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on November 17, 2011, 07:57:47 PM

Quote@crazycut[/size] your name is crazy but you think wisely, its really amazing isn't it?, actually by using only one way we can solve this problem and by cap combination and some heavy duty material it can be really minimized into a point that you can already make a backup ok?, this is just a basic problem and if [color=rgb(0, 0, 255) !important]symptom[/color][/size] persist, you can actually [/size][color=rgb(0, 0, 255) !important]consult[/color][/size] your doctor for this ok? joke [/size] let say for example why in motor they are using carbon brush? that is because carbon is already the product of fire so the logic means carbon brush is best conductor and no worry for burn out.

Ok sir Tito, thanks for the reply, ill try this and see what happens.... and as my doctor i will consult you if symptom persist! LoL! ;D Good Day! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on November 20, 2011, 08:33:16 AM

Check this out! from a french kid, how he made his inverter, its worth to watch!

The simplest inverter i've ever seen!!! :o

Shared by Lidmotor....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=Uap1bj3F-UA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=Uap1bj3F-UA)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on November 20, 2011, 10:09:10 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 17, 2011, 07:36:26 PM

@katok01
Int the first place You should not posted here if your just wasting your time! got that logic man!? just because you seem in your calculation you are right,
i think you are more genius than tesla, in tesla's calculation that he only needs 10watts of energy to make thousands of thousands of horse power.

I'M ACTUALLY ALREADY MADE MY CALCULATION AND YOU ARE 1000% WRONG.

well ....actualy he is at least not hiding behind egoistic excuses, he simply can, post this calculations without any problems, because we are on public forum, where we can learn from sucess and mistakes also, and that is the best way how move forward, beacause science never ends.
But who are you Tito??????? that you can criticise him??
you not posted anything that you can prove what you say.

and....when you pull-out something from context
you should say what you mean with it, because..Tesla realy make 1MW form 10W ...but he make it after 1M shorter time. that means ...let say for exaplme ..from 10watt second he make 0.00001 mega watsecond, or 1 MW microsecond. amoutn of energy is still same.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 20, 2011, 11:13:13 AM

IWD

You are missing something. Amount of energy is the same but ambient response is not. Compare this to explosive effects.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 21, 2011, 04:36:30 AM

Quote from: IWD on November 20, 2011, 10:09:10 AM
well ....actualy he is at least not hiding behind egoistic excuses, he simply can, post this calculations without any problems, because we are on public forum, where we can learn from sucess and mistakes also, and that is the best way how move forward, beacause science never ends.
But who are you Tito? ??? ??? that you can criticise him??
you not posted anything that you can prove what you say.

and....when you pull-out something from context
you should say what you mean with it, because..Tesla realy make 1MW form 10W ...but he make it after 1M shorter time. that means ...let say for exaplme ..from 10watt second he make 0.00001 mega watsecond, or 1 MW microsecond. amoutn of energy is still same.

:o
tesla made it in a continous way ok, you can make a lot of activity as he says in a full charge caps.

you are asking who i am? well simply i am capital TITO ;D

Didn't you not read that he provoke me first, that is actually the wrong with you man! you! always looking the wrong that i've done but you did not see who made the first malicious thing! >:(

is computation still needed? if tesla already says the truth!
so you think tesla did it only for only 1M moment? is that your convincing knowledge? hmmm i think your also genius than tesla :o

i think your ego is more than your face! ;D

:P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on November 21, 2011, 12:32:36 PM

"tesla made it in a continous way ok, you can make a lot of activity as he says in a full charge caps."

Point was, that you should not whip out things from context,or you should explain what you mean with it.

"Didn't you not read that he provoke me first, that is actually the wrong with you man! you! always looking the wrong that i've done but you did not see who made the first malicious thing! "

I read his arguments about what happening in video which you posted. (and which is not yours)
you have no reason to be angry, all what you need to do is post your arguments.
Somebodys arguments and views is actualy usual thing on public forum. That is the simple consequences.
If you are not able to accept it, then you should not post the video.(mainly if you are not able to explain it)
and in first place,.... you should not be angry.
and when you mention who made first maliciou thing... you evidently forget who severaly times promised something and then violate it, and after that, just lauging others effort.
of course you have absolute right to do it, but...point is ....you should be able to withstand the consequences.

"is computation still needed?"
computation is universal language, by it, you can explain manny things very easily, and when you know numbers of some system you can easily recognize what is going on., and mainly, what will be.

"tesla already says the truth!"

what truth??? I know manny truths.... another thing pull-out from context.
and tesla mainly used computations. If you realy read the colorado spring notes as you said, then you shloud know what is computation good for.

"so you think tesla did it only for only 1M moment?"
No... I do not think so, you say that.

"i think your ego is more than your face!"
wel...I am not the one who compare himself with Tesla, bedini and others, I do not call myself capital, you did.
I am not the one who is enjoying attentions.
I am not the one who is offended unreasonably.
I am not the one who says I have truth and others have not.(and not even bother to face others arguments)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 21, 2011, 07:41:47 PM

Quote from: IWD on November 21, 2011, 12:32:36 PM
"tesla made it in a continous way ok, you can make a lot of activity as he says in a full charge caps."

Point was, that you should not whip out things from context,or you should explain what you mean with it.

"Didn't you not read that he provoke me first, that is actually the wrong with you man! you! always looking the wrong that i've done but you did not see who made the first malicious thing! "

I read his arguments about what happening in video which you posted. (and which is not yours)
you have no reason to be angry, all what you need to do is post your arguments.
Somebodys arguments and views is actualy usual thing on public forum. That is the simple consequences.
If you are not able to accept it, then you should not post the video.(mainly if you are not able to explain it)
and in first place,.... you should not be angry.
and when you mention who made first maliciou thing... you evidently forget who severaly times promised something and then violate it, and after that, just lauging others effort.
of course you have absolute right to do it, but...point is ....you should be able to withstand the consequences.

"is computation still needed?"
computation is universal language, by it, you can explain manny things very easily, and when you know numbers of some system you can easily recognize what is going on., and mainly, what will be.

"tesla already says the truth!"

what truth??? I know manny truths.... another thing pull-out from context.
and tesla mainly used computations. If you realy read the colorado spring notes as you said, then you shloud know what is computation good for.

"so you think tesla did it only for only 1M moment?"
No... I do not think so, you say that.

"i think your ego is more than your face!"
wel...I am not the one who compare himself with Tesla, bedini and others, I do not call myself capital, you did.
I am not the one who is enjoying attentions.
I am not the one who is offended unreasonably.
I am not the one who says I have truth and others have not.(and not even bother to face others arguments)

i think i got your point ok? :)

first i am not enjoying attention ok especially yours.

second i cannot grant your request to give all the details ok.

even how much you denied about the malicious thing, we can see and feel it ok!.

and about the ego, you are not using it to a right gear ok.

and the discussion between you and me is nonsense so better for you to not posting here if it doesn't make help ok.
i think it is understood now!

anyhow thanks bro. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 22, 2011, 11:24:08 PM

Suppose two capacitors of C value initially charged at Q charges each one,(that is at V potential).

When capacitors are in parallel, the battery of 2*V waste Q charges to fill one capacitor, and other Q charges to fill the other at the same time. The capacitors rise to the same voltage as the battery (2*V).

Then you've got the capacitors charged at 2*V volts.

Now you disconnect the parallel.

Now you've got two C capacitors, each one charged at 2*Q. This means that each one of the disconnected capacitors have the same 2*V volts as the battery.

Now connect them in series. Now you've got 2*V volts of one 2*Q/C capacitor plus 2*V volts of the other 2*Q/C capacitor (series connection). That is 4*V.

They say that two series C capacitor are equal to C/2 because (in terms of voltage):

4*V = 2*Q/C + 2*Q/C = 4*Q/C = 2*Q/(C/2)

Now, it's clear that two C series capacitors at 4*V are the same as a unique C/2 capacitor at 4*V (but charged at half the charge!).

Why free energy?

Now, connect the series capacitors to the battery. The 4*V volts will be "dumped" into the battery. Then, the charges stored in the C capacitors will go to the battery, until the potential level of the series capacitors rise 2*V volts of the battery again.

Now, if you've got 2*V in the series connection, you must have V on each capacitor when you disconnect them. That means that each one of the capacitors is charged at V so the relation of charges is Q/C that is initial conditions.

SO YOU HAVE THE SAME CHARGES ON CAPACITORS THAN WHEN YOU STARTED THE CYCLE, SO THE CHARGES THE BATTERY GAVE ON PARALLEL CHARGING PROCCESS RETURN TO THE BATTERY ON SERIES DISCHARGING PROCCESS, so THE BATTERY DOES NEVER DISCHARGE.

Now only one method is missing ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 23, 2011, 12:05:36 AM

Teets! happy Thanksgiving. And to all. ;]

Well Tito. I have to read it again. ;] looked good the first time. ;]

Thanks Teets.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 23, 2011, 12:24:42 AM

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:) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( 8) :o ::) :-X :-[

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 23, 2011, 12:30:14 AM

I suppose the next part is how to use the energy thats being transferred back and forth, without depleting the source... But that is what is always missing. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 23, 2011, 02:00:05 AM

??? As it goes back and forth then it should be doing some magnification there, and we have to step that up first ok. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on November 23, 2011, 05:51:29 AM

Hi Doc. Tito, ;D

In my set-up i have 2 - 12volts battery one for the pulse controller and the other one that is connected to caps, coil, and relay,(i have a dc meter connected to the battery measuring volts) as it is pulsing, i noticed that the voltage (DC) at the meter goes up and down from 12v+ to 100v+, ???
what's happening here Doc? is this what you mean about keeping the battery charged? will the battery get overcharged and blow up?

How to step up? series and parallel cascading caps with diodes?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 23, 2011, 01:07:18 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 23, 2011, 02:00:05 AM
??? As it goes back and forth then it should be doing some magnification there, and we have to step that up first ok. ;)

Well, if we charge 2 caps from source, does it matter if we charge each one separately, or should they be in parallel when charging? Or is it just that charging in parallel saves time by doing it all at once?

Then if we put the caps in series, to double the voltage then discharge into the batt(source), there will be some left in the caps, half of source V in each. So when we recharge in parallel(or separately), the source does not have to recharge the caps from empty. Is this where we save? Is this part of the efficiency we are looking for?

Thanks tweetles. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TheCell on November 23, 2011, 02:32:20 PM

The battery having 2*U , the parallel caps having initially U, connecting them to the battery an energy delta Wd = C * 3 U^2 is fed into them. (C is the capacity of one cap)
Putting them in series , will not change anything in the energy-level of the caps.
Connecting the series caps to the battery the same energy delta Wd = C * 3 U^2 is fed back into the battery. No Energy gain.
But when you get the lead acid battery to resonate , it's drawing energy from the ambient. Put a few diodes in between, so the caps are only connected when there is a voltage difference, so a dipole can be established after the current flow. YT Vid Inquorate_tesla switch bedini hybrid.
See the ringing. This is the effect.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 23, 2011, 05:18:28 PM

or you can discharge via coil

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on November 23, 2011, 07:25:25 PM

[/quote

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 22, 2011, 11:24:08 PM
Suppose...
...Now only one method is missing ;)

Tito, you can speak (write) fluent English recently... or rather you use the copy-and-paste method here. What is the source of this citation?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 23, 2011, 07:53:19 PM

Quote from: forest on November 23, 2011, 05:18:28 PM
or you can discharge via coil

Hey Forest

when your saying discharging with a coil, do you mean the primary of a transformer to get usable output while charging the caps, and during series charging while dumping the caps to the batt?

Otherwise I dont see it. ;]

I think I was close to this idea before. I have to look back at my stuff. ;] lotsa stuff =[

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on November 24, 2011, 12:24:08 AM

Hey Mags;

I think this might be a help to you and all, it's regarding charging capacitors in parallel and discharging them in series using spark gaps.

Sorry if this was already brought up but it seems relevant to the conversation and might be worth repeating.

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Pulse+Engineering,+High-Voltage

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 24, 2011, 06:29:54 PM

A spark of a little info really gives a high potentials to our geniuses. :D

Really amazing. ;)

Its all up to you now, you can do what you want about the info.

EXPLORE IT OK! >:(

I'll just be watching you everyone, happy experimenting and always expect a magic smoke, its natural. ;D

You can do it! :) ;)

@The Cell :
"The vibrating effect of a cap creates a lot of energy! and that is not present in any formula! >:(
:P "

@forest and mags: ;)

@crazycut06: diatabs lang katapat nyan! ;D explore pa.

@qwert: the other method is in my mind. ;D

Otits L. Noicaro

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TheCell on November 25, 2011, 03:04:29 AM

@Tito
The pulsing cap provides only a means on a lead acid battery when its loaded / unloaded via pulses.
So the magic is going to happen in the battery , I think.
Correct me , if I am wrong.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 25, 2011, 09:29:53 AM

Quote from: TheCell on November 25, 2011, 03:04:29 AM
@Tito
The pulsing cap provides only a means on a lead acid battery when its loaded / unloaded via pulses.
So the magic is going to happen in the battery , I think.
Correct me , if I am wrong.

the only way is to test it with large capacitor ;-0

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on November 25, 2011, 10:32:51 AM

Quote@crazycut06: diatabs lang katapat nyan! explore pa.

Sir Tito,

Ahahaha! (kailangan bang mag-tae muna bago makuha sikreto!) :-[

Anyways thanks for sharing!

Good day & Godbless!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on November 25, 2011, 11:38:47 AM

Hi all!

Check this out, this is i think what this thread is all about.... this is not my video, just found it over youtube, but this is what im experimenting with, , this is the same technique that Tito uploaded a few post back, reply#1627...hope this helps....

Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2cUS03yNl40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Y9irQJ6mivs

Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=Dh2K6rA4Zzo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=wA4dZJVPtsk

Good day to all & Godbless!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on November 25, 2011, 01:48:35 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 24, 2011, 06:29:54 PM
...
@qwert: the other method is in my mind. ;D
...

Here is the origin:
http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-1616.html (http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-1616.html)
(cala
Apr29-03, 05:51 PM)

edit:
So, your secret is in this (above) forum (among others); right, Tito? If so, then read the rest of the thread to its real end; they prove that doesn't work into free energy. That could be the reason why you are unable to present any video/schematics/picture: your idea remains just in your mind and eventually in some copy-and-paste-from-other-sources computer files.
Comment related to this post:
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg306309/#msg306309

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on November 25, 2011, 02:29:07 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on November 25, 2011, 11:38:47 AM
Hi all!

Check this out, this is i think what this thread is all about.... this is not my video, just found it over youtube, but this is what im experimenting with, , this is the same technique that Tito uploaded a few post back, reply#1627...hope this helps....

Good day to all & Godbless!

You have perfect english sir. Try replacing the mechanical relays with SSRs. (Solid State Relays). and increase the frequency of the FG

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on November 26, 2011, 07:25:23 AM

QuoteYou have perfect english sir. Try replacing the mechanical relays with SSRs. (Solid State Relays). and increase the frequency of the FG

Gee thanks, :) i will try to look for SSR's, Don't know if our local electronic or electrical shop sell's this type of relays...

Thank's TEKTRON for the advice... :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on November 26, 2011, 12:34:24 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on November 26, 2011, 07:25:23 AM

Gee thanks, :) i will try to look for SSR's, Don't know if our local electronic or electrical shop sell's this type of relays...

Thank's TEKTRON for the advice... :)

Not really advice... a crazy idea. But why not try it? something like this might work.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-5-Solid-State-Relays-SSR-24-480V-AC-40A-/160420860478?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2559d4123e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-5-Solid-State-Relays-SSR-24-480V-AC-40A-/160420860478?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2559d4123e)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 26, 2011, 06:56:33 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on November 25, 2011, 11:38:47 AM
Hi all!

Check this out, this is i think what this thread is all about.... this is not my video, just found it over youtube, but this is what im experimenting with, , this is the same technique that Tito uploaded a few post back, reply#1627...hope this helps....

Good day to all & Godbless!

@crazycut06
Ang galing mo tol :D

kababayan talaga kita. ;)

huwag mong basta ibibigay lahat sa mga unghang nato na kala mo ang gagaling na
wala namang alam, pa compute compute pa mali at kulang naman . :D

@qwert
you always want me feel so bad and upset buddy, you have succeeded with that congratulation!

i don't want to talk bad anymore to fulfill my promise and respect to BOB ok. so its ok you can talk a lot now! >:(

@all
Though i feel hurt, just for the sake of good and kind mankind :D i will continue tell this one of the last obvious secret. ;)

"for us to use the pure high voltage, we have to add a small caps to make or take effect in a coil ok "
That's it you have it.
The only secret now is the design.

i have gave you all the tools you need.

i think this is now my goodbye to my THREAD ENERGY AMPLIFICATION :D

BUT don't worry i'll be in touch and watch and post to other thread. ;)

hope you enjoy my corny jokes ;D

Sir wattsup, bob , forest, mags the floor is now yours, i want you all manage everything here.
so that we will call you floor managers. lol hahahhahahahahahah joke! ;D

i love you all brother ;)

see you in other dimension :D

if you will remember me please all i want you do is to become nearer and nearer to Jesus cause the secret of salvation is repentance and acceptance to Jesus as your personal saviour, and refusing to make sins.
always watch Charles stanley's preaching cause it'll help you grow ok.

and therefore obviously if your an atheist no one is controlling you to refuse sins, accept that, cause that is true. ;)

bye everyone. ;)

Otits L. Noicaro Now signing off :-* :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on November 26, 2011, 10:22:51 PM

Sorry, Tito.
My intentions never was to irritate or to make somebody feeling bad. As people's reactions differ, I believed my posts can induce inspirations; sorry, I am really angry for myself that that made an opposite reaction, making you feeling bad. I promise to think at least twice when next time I want to post anything, and I'd rather won't post anything if I'm not sure of somebody's reactions.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 27, 2011, 03:30:36 AM

Quote from: Qwert on November 26, 2011, 10:22:51 PM
Sorry, Tito.
My intentions never was to irritate or to make somebody feeling bad. As people's reactions differ, I believed my posts can induce inspirations; sorry, I am really angry for myself that that made an opposite reaction, making you feeling bad. I promise to think at least twice when next time I want to post anything, and I'd rather won't post anything if I'm not sure of somebody's reactions.

Ohhh :( , Your a humble person buddy and because of that you made me feel better and comfortable with you. I'm sorry too buddy ;) , its okay now nothing to worry about . :)

Your really a great reader and i salute you for that. :)

Yes you are correct i just cut and paste it cause i find it written in a very easy to understand sentence, but that is what i want really to tell but since i only have ape English so i just paste it for the sake of speed. ;) but since it is not complete, i still added some reminder right?

so long fell ;)

take care

otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 27, 2011, 04:04:54 AM

Sir Tito ,

Do not leave us ! :'( We need the great teacher who will give us a small working circuit ::) Like Zelina is doing all the time on energeticforum. maybe you can lurk there and give us your tips or a way to make just a toy circuit to light child flashlamp. :D

Sincerely yours
Forest

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 30, 2011, 09:06:08 PM

don't worry i'll always be around ;)

We can actually light up the whole world by just a toy circuit ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 30, 2011, 09:36:09 PM

Around ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 30, 2011, 09:37:43 PM

Toys ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 30, 2011, 09:44:01 PM

ya hehehehe ;D

ok here is a simple toy to scrutinize : let say for example we can make a make and brake right?, and since we know that a diode can permit a current and voltage to pass then why not after the diode lets make a lot of coils but not permitting bemf to go back ;D is that clear? oh boy my ape English really makes secrets. ;D

Want another one? ohhh maybe some other time we will scrutinize three caps and make them free ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 30, 2011, 09:56:14 PM

So, make-n-break, diode, lots of coils, no bemf because of diode(big funky diode)

So if we do this, it allows the "coils" to resonate because bemf cant make it back to the make-n-break because of diode.

Is this the reason for the spark quenching, to not allow energy developed in the "coils" not to be lost due to bemf getting back to the source?

Toyz ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 30, 2011, 10:10:20 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 30, 2011, 09:56:14 PM
So, make-n-break, diode, lots of coils, no bemf because of diode(big funky diode)

So if we do this, it allows the "coils" to resonate because bemf cant make it back to the make-n-break because of diode.

Is this the reason for the spark quenching, to not allow energy developed in the "coils" not to be lost due to bemf getting back to the source?

Toyz ;D

Mags

ya something like that.

is that possible friend? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 30, 2011, 10:17:01 PM

I dont know, Friendy dude. Didnt think diodes that I have would handle something like that. Zener? We discussed it before, but I didnt know the config.

Toyzzz :o ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 30, 2011, 10:23:06 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 30, 2011, 10:17:01 PM
I dont know, Friendy dude. Didnt think diodes that I have would handle something like that. Zener? We discussed it before, but I didnt know the config.

Toyzzz :o ;)

Mags

well, series diode can handle things that you want it to handle isn't it?. ;)

you're nose really can smell very good buddy ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 30, 2011, 10:30:24 PM

Ok ok. My sniffer stinks. ???

so all we need to worry about is the voltage handling of the diode(s)? They can handle the discharge of the cap to the coils?

Hmm. Or is there not much current through the diode(s), just potential gets through to the inductance's, during the time of the spark?

Toytoy ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 30, 2011, 10:33:50 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 30, 2011, 10:30:24 PM
Ok ok. My sniffer stinks. ???

so all we need to worry about is the voltage handling of the diode(s)? They can handle the discharge of the cap to the coils?

Hmm. Or is there not much current through the diode(s), just potential gets through to the inductance's, during the time of the spark?

Toytoy ;D

Mags

You're really good buddy lets just talk some other time
bye bye ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 30, 2011, 10:38:46 PM

Ok tweets. Thanks for the helps. Im just trying to put it together in my head from what you are saying lately. Makes more sense lately. Lately lately, thats a funny word, if you say it more than once. Lately.

Alright, talk to you lately. ;) Toytoy

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 01, 2011, 01:50:05 AM

i met a duck
who told me that :
what a break
wanna make
que que que que nch
not a chance
you turn back
que que, que que
que que quak

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 01, 2011, 02:16:57 AM

hey Mr. forest

What is this malignant message? :o :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 01, 2011, 03:59:02 AM

They try to make ENERGY AMPLIFICATION THREAD OUT OF THE FRONT PAGE.

I CAN SENSE THAT HAHAHAHAHHAHHA LOL ;D >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 01, 2011, 04:27:13 AM

DON'T WORRY I'LL PUT IT IN FRONT ROW AS I VISIT HERE. LOL HAHAHAHAHAHA ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 01, 2011, 12:35:29 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 01, 2011, 03:59:02 AM
They try to make ENERGY AMPLIFICATION THREAD OUT OF THE FRONT PAGE.

I CAN SENSE THAT HAHAHAHAHHAHHA LOL ;D >:(

Yea, THEY do it quite often. I wonder if it is just a random bot or on purpose to hide a subject. its rare that THEY push everything off of the front page.

Last nite I was having trouble getting to individual threads. It would either just refresh the home page, or, I was getting this at OUR.com....

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@overunityresearch.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache mod_qos/9.69 mod_fcgid/2.3.6 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at www.overunityresearch.com (http://www.overunityresearch.com) Port 80

And my browser would lock up for some min. But its ok today.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 02, 2011, 12:08:55 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 30, 2011, 10:10:20 PM

ya something like that.

is that possible friend? ;D

Ive been thinking on the zener with the spark gap.

If we used a regular diode in series with the spark gap(or switch), we might have rectification of the spark. But is that enough? ;]

If we have a 15v zener in series with a switch, and the discharge cap were charged to 16-17v, when the switch closes, the cap dumps through the switch till the cap is at 15v. So a small amount of the caps charge made it through the switch.

The difference is, using a regular diode, the cap might be discharged all the way to zero.
But with the zener, the cap stops discharging when its voltage drains down to 15v.

Here we have a burst of power through the switch, that ends about as abruptly as it began, where with the regular diode, the charge in the cap may be completely diminished through the switch, depending on the quality of the switch and timing.

So what Im getting at is, the zener can help a spark gap or switch act similar to a quenched spark gap.

I dont think we can eliminate the switch, as I had though back then, with the zener, as it would just hold the voltage at 15v.

But what if the cap was 30v? 50v? Using the 15v zener. 10 zeners in series, 150v zener. Cap loaded to 200v, discharges to 150, bang bang. ;]

Duno, just thinkin. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 03, 2011, 07:39:25 PM

No comment Teets?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 03, 2011, 07:44:56 PM

Another tip:

Get a 4 handmade transformer then pulse one transformer, then at the secondary connect the three primary of the transformer in parallel with magnets , in that sense we are using free flux from the magnets in one disturb . hope you understand it. my ape English really makes secret isn't it. :o

note: we can actually add a lot of transformer and use the flux of the magnet.

That is three birds in one stone or a lot of birds in one stone. 8)

happy experimenting ;)

Take care

And that's another simple toyz from Titus ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 03, 2011, 08:03:33 PM

Hand made? Core? Air? Step up/down?

Magnets? As cores for the other 3 transformers?

Other 3 transformers? Cores(magnets?)? step up/down? Current handling?

Theres a lot to go wrong without any of these. :o ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 04, 2011, 04:56:39 AM

Actually i'm just sharing that a constant flux of a magnet can be freely used, okay buddy? 8)

what we only need is to ring it ok?. 8)

Now from the previous comment: what we really need is discharging a high voltage dc from coils
ok? :o

by the way charge in caps will turn into zero, that is if we permit it. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TheCell on December 04, 2011, 05:33:07 AM

Hello Tito
I think it's the kunel patent, your talking about.
Does the induced voltage have a dc-offset?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 04, 2011, 06:03:51 AM

Quote from: TheCell on December 04, 2011, 05:33:07 AM
Hello Tito
I think it's the kunel patent, your talking about.
Does the induced voltage have a dc-offset?

well, maybe they have some similarity, but i'm not exactly sure about that.

pulsing one transformer and 3 transformers are separated each other then giving off an ac product that needs some rectification, then connect them in parallel to produce a battery like effect.

what do you think? :-\

The purpose is to disturb flux from the nth number of X-former with magnets by means of one transformer. ;)

and sorry i'm not making any patent i'm giving everything in free, i don't care if they will put them into patent, its ok. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TheCell on December 04, 2011, 07:03:27 AM

I did not get it. Schematic needed.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 04, 2011, 07:11:14 AM

Quote from: TheCell on December 04, 2011, 07:03:27 AM
I did not get it. Schematic needed.

The effect is something like this, but it is not a motor .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9zr42eGMWo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9zr42eGMWo&feature=related)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 18, 2011, 01:30:18 PM

Hey Tito

Havnt heard from you in a while. Hope all is ok.
Been reading in the news about what is going on in your country.

Praying for ya, and others.

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: epwpixieq-1 on December 18, 2011, 10:55:34 PM

Hi,

I made a post to the Kapanadze 5KW discussion that may be of interest to some of the people posting on this thread: http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg308217/#msg308217 (http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg308217/#msg308217)
It discusses some of Tesla's patents and Kapanadze device (in connection with these patents) as a tuned energy receiver of electric (standing) waves in the Earth.

Hope it will be of interest to some people.

Best to all.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 18, 2011, 11:44:26 PM

TEEETS! Glad your ok buddy. ;D

How are things over there? Ya ok?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 18, 2011, 11:56:57 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 18, 2011, 01:30:18 PM
Hey Tito

Havnt heard from you in a while. Hope all is ok.
Been reading in the news about what is going on in your country.

Praying for ya, and others.

mags

:'(
Thanks buddy, yes some of my cousins were hardly devastated by this typhoon sendong, and i hope they were okay in Iligan.

well i'm currently busy preparing Christmas. :D

TO ALL
I think many wants to here these AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SECRET OF TESLA OK:

"A FULLY CHARGE CAPS ENERGY CAN PULSE A COIL A LOT OK, INTO A POINT THAT IN THE FIRST PULSE WE CAN CHARGE IT ALREADY OR RE SEPARATE ITS CHARGE ALREADY" just in one pulse only ok?. got it ;)

now no more secret, its all up to you now how to do that, its very easy and lots of variation. ;)

That is actually one of the secret of tesla, he's only using caps as a source of energy ok?

Now sense these, they will try to make this thread off the front page now ;D >:(
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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 19, 2011, 12:08:18 AM

NANO TECH?!!!

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, THAT IS NOT THE SOLUTION OR THE KEY! OK!

THEY ARE JUST MAKING FREE ENERGY IN A VERY COMPLEX STATE OK!!!!!! >:(

THE KEY IS ONLY CAPACITOR AND A COIL OKEY :o

ALWAYS REMEMBER TESLA TECH IS STILL THE SUPERIOR HMMMMMMM >:(

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 19, 2011, 12:16:45 AM

Well, Merry Christmas Tito. ;]

Hey, one question. Well 2 in 1 ;]

Capacitor. Is it completely discharged into the coil then stops discharge? Or stays connected to resonate?

Hey :-*

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 19, 2011, 03:14:14 AM

Yes, they are trying to sell free energy very pricely using nano tech and human compassion technic. Bad bad bad people if that's true

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 19, 2011, 06:56:28 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 19, 2011, 12:16:45 AM
Well, Merry Christmas Tito. ;]

Hey, one question. Well 2 in 1 ;]

Capacitor. Is it completely discharged into the coil then stops discharge? Or stays connected to resonate?

Hey :-*

Mags

To all:

Actually it goes something like this: its on how we can chop chop a caps energy.

The caps acting as a source is not a cap making a vibration or making the resonation, of course they have different work that is why that is the one i am telling of the amazing 3 caps.

If you notice connecting a led or computer fan motor in a fully charge caps, it can make it glow or run in 1-3 sec is it not?, then that is all what we need for free energy removing any conventional source, it is now then up to us how we make our coil efficiently with lots of gains. And how we make a lot of kicker coils, and by combining avramenko ;) well thats it. :)

note that: when a cap is first connected to a coil, the flow is not starting from cap its like pushing the electron from the beginning of the coil going to the other side of the cap, but what we only need here is the momentary strong magnetic field effect that make an effect to the other metal near to it ok?.

WE DON'T WANT FLOWING OK! >:( AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!!!! >:( ALL WE WANT IS THE FLUCTUATING STRONG MAGNETIC EFFECT!!!!! GOT IT?!!!![size=78%] [/size]

oh boy my nose is bleeding hahahahhahahahaha
what an English lol. ;D

That's it.

i think i am now nothing but a piece of junk.

Now if in case you got rich please share something for me ok ;D

not necessarily for me but for my 3 children ok Thanks. ;) [size=78%] [/size]

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!
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WE REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW LONG OUR CANDLE WILL LOOSE ITS LIFE BUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS OF WHAT WE'VE DONE TO THAT LIFE.

REMEMBER THE SOUL SALVATION SECRET: ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR PERSONAL SAVIOR, REPENTANCE , HUMBLE YOURSELF BEFORE GOD, AND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE PLEASE REFUSE TO MAKE SINS AND THAT IS ALL FOR YOUR OWN GOOD JESUS LOVES US, THAT IS WHY WE ARE SO VERY LUCKY BECAUSE GOD IS SOOOOOO GOOD. NOW, OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO READ THE BIBLE FOR STRENGTHENING, THE KING JAMES VERSION TO BE SPECIFIC.

THIS IS ALL FOR THE SAKE OF MANKIND. :) [size=78%] [/size]

"i will serve God because i fear hell : WRONG! "
"i will serve God because i want to go to heaven: WRONG!"

"i will serve God because i love JESUS because Jesus first loves us by giving his life just for our sake : RIGHT!!!!!"

AND GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU

TITO L. ORACION :)

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 19, 2011, 08:48:46 PM

Hey Teets

I dont know for sure what your sayin. lol

Its ok. Just have a good Christmas, and a happy new year.

Your not junk. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 19, 2011, 09:23:02 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 19, 2011, 08:48:46 PM
Hey Teets

I dont know for sure what your sayin. lol

Its ok. Just have a good Christmas, and a happy new year.

Your not junk. ;]

Mags

HE HE HE HE HE :D

HERE'S WHAT I MEAN: KEEP A CAP WANTS TO BE FILL BUT NOT, AND THAT MOMENT IS WHAT WE NEED FOR A FREE ENERGY. ;)

OR

KEEP A CAP WANT TO DISCHARGE BUT CANNOT, AND THAT MOMENT IS AGAIN WHAT WE NEED FOR MAKING GAIN.

SO ITS UP TO US TO CHOOSE THE METHOD WE WANT.

ALWAYS NOTE THAT: THERE SHOULD BE NO FLOWING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO KEEP A CAP SEEKING FOR CHARGE OR DISCHARGE OK?

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 19, 2011, 10:11:40 PM

Ok. I take a stab at it.....

Lets say we have(all in series order) a battery, a coil a cap and a switch. Cap is empty.

Are you saying, we close the switch, only long enough to have the potential appear across the cap? Or across the coil?

Or the other way. Just a charged cap, coil and a switch. Then only close the switch long enough for the caps potential to appear across the coil, and only losing a tiny bit of what was in the cap. ? :o

Im just goin by what you said. I dont know what else to do, even if this is correct.

:o Ooo Ooo :o

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on December 20, 2011, 01:12:14 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 19, 2011, 06:56:28 PM
Now if in case you got rich please share something...
TITO L. ORACION :)

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Tito, I guess, you can thank God right now: He sent you a rich guy who is willing to share; it's me. Just make this task easier for me and create a bank account where I can send you the share. In my profile you'll find my e-mail address in case if you don't want to get this public, but I recommend you to leave it public; I hope it will become the Tesla's "snowball", well, mabe even a small avalanche...
I'm receiving a disability benefit and I feel rich with it, also I don't invest in any expensive hobby like most experimenters on this Forum, so I feel even double as much rich.
So, I'm seriously looking for a response from you, Tito. And remember: there is NOT ANY OBLIGATION on you.
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 20, 2011, 01:59:50 AM

Here are my ideas. It's not complete or workable or realized , just ideas.

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 19, 2011, 09:23:02 PM

HE HE HE HE HE :D

HERE'S WHAT I MEAN: KEEP A CAP WANTS TO BE FILL BUT NOT, AND THAT MOMENT IS WHAT WE NEED FOR A FREE ENERGY. ;)

This remain me the situation when cap is connected between two sources of potential like two car batteries, but not in common way but one terminal to positive of one battery and second to negative of second battery. Or one terminal to power source and second to collapsing magnetic field of coil ??? Or second situation when capacitor is connected to coil and cannot discharge because coil is "full" - become source of current

Quote
OR

KEEP A CAP WANT TO DISCHARGE BUT CANNOT, AND THAT MOMENT IS AGAIN WHAT WE NEED FOR MAKING GAIN.

Again as per situation 1 as decribed. Fully charged capacitor annot be discharged when connected to two sources as described above.

Quote

SO ITS UP TO US TO CHOOSE THE METHOD WE WANT.

ALWAYS NOTE THAT: THERE SHOULD BE NO FLOWING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO KEEP A CAP SEEKING FOR CHARGE OR DISCHARGE OK?

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 20, 2011, 06:40:15 AM

Quote from: Qwert on December 20, 2011, 01:12:14 AM
Tito, I guess, you can thank God right now: He sent you a rich guy who is willing to share; it's me. Just make this task easier for me and create a bank account where I can send you the share. In my profile you'll find my e-mail address in case if you don't want to get this public, but I recommend you to leave it public; I hope it will become the Tesla's "snowball", well, mabe even a small avalanche...
I'm receiving a disability benefit and I feel rich with it, also I don't invest in any expensive hobby like most experimenters on this Forum, so I feel even double as much rich.
So, I'm seriously looking for a response from you, Tito. And remember: there is NOT ANY OBLIGATION on you.
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

Wow! :o I felt soow flattered with that buddy, but thank you very much for your help though i need it badly sorry i can't take it ok :)

but i'm so grateful having a rich friend like you buddy. ;)

A word of concern: Please don't do this proposal again to anybody ok, cause many people living on earth are taking advantage for people like you ok buddy? :)

Don't worry buddy i still can manage though slowly but sure. remember ? ;)

Merry Christmas too!!! ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 20, 2011, 07:00:28 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 19, 2011, 10:11:40 PM
Ok. I take a stab at it.....

Lets say we have(all in series order) a battery, a coil a cap and a switch. Cap is empty.

Are you saying, we close the switch, only long enough to have the potential appear across the cap? Or across the coil?

Or the other way. Just a charged cap, coil and a switch. Then only close the switch long enough for the caps potential to appear across the coil, and only losing a tiny bit of what was in the cap. ? :o

Im just goin by what you said. I dont know what else to do, even if this is correct.

:o Ooo Ooo :o

Mags

MERRY CHRISTMAS MAGS!!!
MERRY CHRISTMAS FOREST!!!

MERRY MERRY MERRY CHRISTMAS CHRISTMAS CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!!! ;D :-*

AND HAVE A BLESSED PEACEFUL NEW YEAR!!!

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 20, 2011, 12:36:34 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 20, 2011, 07:00:28 AM

MERRY CHRISTMAS MAGS!!!
MERRY CHRISTMAS FOREST!!!

MERRY MERRY MERRY CHRISTMAS CHRISTMAS CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!!! ;D :-*

AND HAVE A BLESSED PEACEFUL NEW YEAR!!!

;D

Merry Christmas Teets. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 20, 2011, 02:03:59 PM

Merry Christmas Tito!
Merry Christmas Mags!

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 20, 2011, 05:51:40 PM

Merry Cristmas Forest! ;D And a Happy New Year! ;)

Mags ;]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on December 20, 2011, 09:06:22 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 20, 2011, 06:40:15 AM

Wow! :o ...

Well, Tito, I was afraid you're going to tell me so. Sorry.
Anyway, this offer is valid for anyone else in need, if Tito hesitates. I promise discretion.
Merry Christmas to all!

Q

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on December 20, 2011, 10:05:04 PM

Qwert
I sent you a PM regarding your offer?

Thanks
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on December 21, 2011, 02:21:11 AM

From what i understand, I think Tito wants to tell is how much magnetic field can be created when you discharge a fully charge capacitor into a coil.. Let me give you an example..

Take two identical iron core. One core will be wind with thick magnetic wire, lets say 10turns and the other will be a thin magnetic wire probably 4000turns. Now, grab two identical electrolytic capacitor. Let say 1000uf/16, Charge them up.. Now get some 4" nail place it near the end of a core. Now discharge the capacitor to a coil one after the other.. Just tap it. Now whats the difference?

If you discharge the capacitor to a thick magnetic wire the nail will be attracted to the core. Still when you discharge the capacitor to a thin wire with many windings the nail will be attracted also to the core. So whats the difference?

Its the amount of energy you used to create almost the same strength of magnetic field.. Try to measure the voltage of the capacitor that you used in a thin wire and you will see that there still charge on it

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 21, 2011, 04:18:49 AM

Quote from: Qwert on December 20, 2011, 09:06:22 PM
Well, Tito, I was afraid you're going to tell me so. Sorry.
Anyway, this offer is valid for anyone else in need, if Tito hesitates. I promise discretion.
Merry Christmas to all!

Q

NO need to make sorry buddy its okay. :)

well if you really want to help i think those who where hardly devastated by the typhoon sendong in Iligan city in Philippines also, they really need help, you can actually direct your help in Channel 7 or GMA KAPUSO FOUNDATION, well they can be trusted i believe. :) but its not force its still if just you really want to help okay. ;)

@ dimawari
well, what can i say , partially yes ;)

ozn

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on December 21, 2011, 04:55:15 AM

THanks Sir Teets.. And thanks also for encouraging me to build Muller Dynamo..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on December 21, 2011, 07:25:19 AM

Tito
You have inspired me now for many years!!
thank you for the education,It was a good one......................

I now have a much better grasp on "Selfish".
It is changing My life!!

I hope you get "It" some day!!

Chet
PS
May Peace Find us all this Christmas ...Or better still may we find peace.............

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 21, 2011, 01:02:38 PM

Quote from: DimaWari on December 21, 2011, 02:21:11 AM
From what i understand, I think Tito wants to tell is how much magnetic field can be created when you discharge a fully charge capacitor into a coil.. Let me give you an example..

Take two identical iron core. One core will be wind with thick magnetic wire, lets say 10turns and the other will be a thin magnetic wire probably 4000turns. Now, grab two identical electrolytic capacitor. Let say 1000uf/16, Charge them up.. Now get some 4" nail place it near the end of a core. Now discharge the capacitor to a coil one after the other.. Just tap it. Now whats the difference?

If you discharge the capacitor to a thick magnetic wire the nail will be attracted to the core. Still when you discharge the capacitor to a thin wire with many windings the nail will be attracted also to the core. So whats the difference?

Its the amount of energy you used to create almost the same strength of magnetic field.. Try to measure the voltage of the capacitor that you used in a thin wire and you will see that there still charge on it

Thanks for that Dima. ;]

Lets say the coil with 4000 turns thin wire, it must have a high inductance. It takes time for the field to build, no?

But I guess we are claiming that a cap briefly connected to the coil has a much different effect than a battery. Battery with cap in parallel?

When you say fully charged cap, is it necessary for the cap to be filled to the rim(close to voltage rating of the cap)? Or if we have a 1000uf 100v cap, 16v can be considered full, if 16v is what we want to work with? ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 21, 2011, 03:55:29 PM

Dima is right about the effect we need to create gain. We must have very big magnetic field, no matter that it will be very short in time. This impulse then will "attract" all metals around producing electric field inside and current between two potentials. So we need to discharge energy fast and only capacitor can do it.Now the next puzzle : we need this capacitor to not loose charge or restore charge after pulse, eficient usage of source.
That has to be worked out. Then we need a comfortable utility converting magnetic impulse into heavy current of lower voltage and without Lenz restrictions.Again - to be worked out. This will be receiver part.

We are taught by Bedini to recover BEMF, but that is wrong I think. Either he is not going to say what is good way or ... This wrong way is like in such example: take a bell and strike it with hammer then take rubber band and touch bell so vibration will flow into it and no sound is produced.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 21, 2011, 08:02:06 PM

he he he he he :D

That's nothing buddy! ;)

just forgive me if my way of teaching is like teasing ok? ;D , that's how i enjoy being here, and that's my way ok? :)

I really enjoy giving partial info for everyone in a sense that i want them discover it themselves cause that really gives a good pleasure to you when you discover it by your self and not just copying it and also by means of experimentation you can also discover something that i did not discover right?, and when you shared that then everyone sees a new fresh hope that everyone and me learn something new to scruitinize. 8)

From Titus quote: To become different make some difference. lol ;D

Another partial important bla bla bla tip from Titus, ready?! okay again for the sake of mankind:

"How many caps can be charge at the same time at one moment of time from a single battery?"
:o

isn't it an obvious free energy to you everyone? ???

want me still to tell more? ;D

one single kick could produce thousands of different kicks ;)

Merry Christmas and Happy new year again >:( see my faces? they were not use many times to where they should be and that's a joke and i enjoy it ;)

Otits L. Noicaro ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 21, 2011, 08:22:51 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 21, 2011, 01:02:38 PM
Thanks for that Dima. ;]

Lets say the coil with 4000 turns thin wire, it must have a high inductance. It takes time for the field to build, no?

But I guess we are claiming that a cap briefly connected to the coil has a much different effect than a battery. Battery with cap in parallel?

When you say fully charged cap, is it necessary for the cap to be filled to the rim(close to voltage rating of the cap)? Or if we have a 1000uf 100v cap, 16v can be considered full, if 16v is what we want to work with? ;]

Mags

I''ll just answer the first one: Voltage is very extremely fast, it will just make the electron already in the coil be glow first before the flowing will take place. and in the glow, the magnetic field is build. as i have said awhile post that flowing from caps make push and switch their glow of the electrons already in the coil right? 8) and the glow effect is magnetic field effect also. :o

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 21, 2011, 10:10:23 PM

Hey Mr T ;D

Go with the Glow, make it flow, like hobo, on da train, ride fo free. Mr T :o

Hey, is this for real? This is posted on the Kapanadze thread.
Does the bifi, in this situation actually self oscillate after excitation? :o 8) :o
Is this the coil we need for this experiment we are talking about?
:o
yfree said the self oscilation builds on its own, and after it does you close sw2 to collect the higher energy. ;) :o

If true, why doest it need to be started with a high V pulse if it builds on its own? :o I guess its a good thing, or my bifi sitting in the closet would have melted down long time ago, just from any stimulation. :o

Anyone Watch Xfactor?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 22, 2011, 03:46:21 AM

hmmmmmmm

I think its now time to study the trapping of AC or fluctuating flux like what Floyd Sweet done. ???

One time i had an experience of electrocution from a Television and i don't exactly know what kind of electricity is that but it seems that it is an AC from A CAP. :o

Now what do you think? ???

I believe that this is the perfection that Nikola tesla is talking about . :o ??? ::)

And we all know that when there is a fluctuating magnetic field of course there is a transfer of energy isn't it? ??? :o :P

can we not do that using our caps, transistor, zdiode? etc. ::) ??? :o

I believe that this is the best and very practical way of free energy. ;)

It involves some kind of memory technology hmmmmmmm. :o ??? ::)

I had an experience also about cellphone battery when i charge it but not completely charge, the next time i charge it, it cannot go full, it remembers the first charge and stop there. :o ::) ???

What do you think friends ? >:( :-* ;)

Some weird idea of me: what if we make some record of signed wave of sound in a magnetic tape and just play that in a chip again and again or
loop it. ;)

Hope it opens a new door ;)

Otits L. Noicaro ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 22, 2011, 06:01:42 AM

well, Tito you are right ,here is my theory:

Each electron is small magnet and when circuit is closed for the initial first nanoseconds there is this effect mentioned by Bearden which rotate electrons (polarize them like in dielectric) - this create opposing magnetic field to the source magnetic field - aka Lenz law. Then current start to flow. This effect is nothing more but famous Tesla radiant energy or Tesla longitudianal radio wave , just flowing around wire. Magnetic field distrurbance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on December 22, 2011, 08:44:29 PM

Mags
X Factor??
I like Josh??
We'll see?

Chet
PS
Mags
It would be good if you could Email me ?
Forrest too...........

Chetkremens@gmail.com

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 22, 2011, 09:05:17 PM

something strange ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smuCwUKyhkg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smuCwUKyhkg&feature=related)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 22, 2011, 09:13:33 PM

Merry Christmas Chet ;D

I like Melanie best, Josh is great 2. Chris, cant explain it. Drew? Jazzlyn Little?? Rachel Crow? Leroy Belle? I just dont get it with Cris. He is good, but dry at timeszzz.
Simon made quite a few(some addmitted) mistakes along the way. Hope next season follows a learning curve.

Melanie!! Im in Ft Lauderdale bout 10 miles from sunrise, where I used to live. Home town fan bias. But she rocks.

Watchin at this moment, Chris is out, 2 champs left. ;]

Ill e you after the show.

Lol they are reshowing Zander Alexander. And the boogaty check yo bladda kid that sold his truck to audition.

Good show.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 22, 2011, 09:50:30 PM

Hey Tito

There is also muscle wire. I think thats the name. Apply voltage and it shrinks. :o

;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Davi on December 23, 2011, 07:45:05 AM

An interesting effectinthe Leyden jar, withoutcomment.
http://tarielkapanad...ly5-2.htm#Banka (http://tarielkapanadze.ru/kelly5-2.htm#Banka)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on December 23, 2011, 11:17:59 AM

Good Day to all,

Well, well for the sake of conversation, I will trow my idea about kapanadze.. I believe it was explained it very well at http://www.teslatech.info/ttmagazine/v4n2/nichel.htm. Its my curiosity why he called one of block diagram "Points (as distributor of an engine)" on his patent . Can we create a high voltage pulse will little charge on capacitor? I believe Yes.. If so how? We need time to charge a capacitor.. How about we used a decade counter like CD4017 and a Capacitor Discharge Circuit? We replace Engine Distributor with many transistor or MOSFET as a switch. Lets say we have 10 switches driving a single coil. As magnetic field collapses feed through a smith coil in series with coax cable capacitor. Now the other end of coax capacitor is connected to Output coil to one of the transistor of an Emitter follower Circuit, with this circuit we turn off the connection of smith coil to the ground, Eventually it will charge the large capacitor and the energy we collect will be discharge by the second transistor to a Ferroresonance transformer like. Guys this is only my understanding about it and not yet proven through experiment...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 06, 2012, 10:12:23 PM

After working with my last vid, where I was trying to get the speed up effect as Romero achieved, and others, but my experiment didnt show speed up, it had shown a sort of sync lock at resonant freq, I tried to figure out how to extract the energy my large coil was producing while in resonant mode, without killing the resonance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNCF7uQzwzM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNCF7uQzwzM)

Then it dawned on me, that the multi core inductors/transformers, there is a detail that I had neglected about them that is mentioned in the pdf(below) that I passed out some time back, that loading the output coil wont kill the resonance of the primary. Yet the article never suggested or had shown doing so with the primary.
So I didnt think of it as an objective of the document. But it just might be key to extracting from a resonating circuit without killing the resonant state.

So, I was thinking of ways to accomplish the non-kill effect while using an ordinary transformer. If we arrange the primary with a cap, LC, and we apply a signal to the primary at its resonant freq, and we load the secondary, the resonance becomes nulled, or damped. But, if we add an inductor in series with the secondary, we no longer kill the primary resonance. :o

Is this the purpose of Tesla's "extra coil" ? ;) Im thinking it is.

I will be working on it this weekend. In the vid above, if I connect the primary of a transformer, in series with the LC large generator coil, and load the secondary of the transformer, the resonance will die. But if we add an inductor in series with the secondary, it shouldnt. Or, use a multi core as shown in the pdf.

We will see...

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 06, 2012, 11:15:22 PM

wooooow that's tooo close buddy. :-* ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 06, 2012, 11:20:09 PM

:o ;D ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 07, 2012, 12:03:36 AM

Give up everyone?

Do you not get the secret of tesla still?

moray's diode?, those are not important, the important is the way a transformers used or built.

i have given you the tools you need to know already remember?

JUST A VERY CAREFUL ANALYZATION WILL DO!

NOW LETS MAKE ANOTHER BARGAIN ;D FOR THE WORLD.
FOR $2M I WILL REVEAL IT PUBLICLY HERE AND THAT IS A TRUE DEAL PROMISE. >:(

NOW IF SOMEBODY WILL OFFER $1M PRIVATELY, WELL I WILL GRAB IT! ;D

BUT IF I WERE ALL OF YOU DO IT FOR $2M FOR THE WORLD :D

OR YOU CAN CHIP IN EVERYONE :D

It only need at least not more than 5 sentences of explanation for the secret and you will laugh at it and say oh ya your correct. :D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 07, 2012, 12:12:31 AM

as i am writing this words, i am being attack by this asthma, i'm really sorry everyone. :)

i really feel very bad ladies and gentlemen.

and i'm telling the truth :)

please always remember the tips i gave you about the soul salvation its true though i'm bad ok ;)

hope i survive this attack bye. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 07, 2012, 12:30:36 AM

Teets ;)

http://www.webmd.com/asthma/guide/asthma-diet-what-you-should-know?page=2

http://www.yourasthmatreatment.com/diet-asthma-patients.htm

And as the article says, try to go organic when ever possible.

Mags will pray :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: garrypm on January 07, 2012, 02:23:29 AM

Hey Mags,

Could be helpful to look at what Tinman is doing with caps -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLDhUQo6d7o&context=C37110cbADOEgsToPDskJmsFIaTJmjJpc5uKY59R7j (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLDhUQo6d7o&context=C37110cbADOEgsToPDskJmsFIaTJmjJpc5uKY59R7j)

Garry

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 07, 2012, 02:49:53 AM

Thanks Gary

Im finding it hard to guess what he is doing over all from just that vid. Will have to see the others. The 2 rotors, im not making any connection so far as to what is going on.

Will look at more.

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: garrypm on January 07, 2012, 04:26:42 AM

Sorry Mags,

Should have been more explicit.

He is using a voltage doubler made with caps and a couple of diodes. (he calls it poppy's - another member on their forum)

What he has done prior to this is to use lenz to assist and in trying to verify power in, then doubler, he first got
a watt meter but is now using clamp meter BUT, not using AC from the wall - he is making AC from horseshoe style bedini
and feeding this AC into double and using this, now DC to drive the regular bedini.

To get the whole picture I guess you'll have to go back about three videos.

The voltage doubler circuit can be found here - the forum and thread -
http://iaec.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=147 (http://iaec.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=147)

you will need to register to see pics etc.

Garry

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 07, 2012, 05:06:24 PM

I personally think the secret to free energy is the shorted coil, when a shorted coil is introduced into a system the shorted coil will pull in the aether, when a coil is pusled by a circut or a magnet the field builds then collapses into the coil windings (bemf) but when a shorted coil is pulsed its field fluctuates but will not collapse, the other fields collapsing will draw energy from the shorted coils field if they are in resonance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 07, 2012, 05:17:00 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on January 07, 2012, 07:36:48 PM

Teetsla
I hope you are OK ?
@Mags
Seems quite interesting ?,Funny I have been reading over at the Dollard thread on energetic and some of the recent things shared over there...[not by Eric but other members] Well bits and Pieces sound like things Tito has been saying ??

Do you have a link to your You tube??
THX
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 07, 2012, 08:32:14 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on January 06, 2012, 10:12:23 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNCF7uQzwzM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNCF7uQzwzM)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on January 08, 2012, 05:08:21 AM

Tito, I've sent you an email on ...pogi@... .com. Can you confirm it?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on January 14, 2012, 07:40:30 PM

Hi all. I hope our friend Tito is in good health.
A while ago, Tito mentioned that in his work he used a work of a guy named Ossie Callanan. Nobody responded then for that suggestion: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.msg265783#msg265783
Here is a short Ossie's work: http://www.fluxite.com/WorkingRadiantEnergy.pdf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on January 15, 2012, 10:23:49 AM

Quote from: Qwert on January 14, 2012, 07:40:30 PM
Hi all. I hope our friend Tito is in good health.
A while ago, Tito mentioned that in his work he used a work of a guy named Ossie Callanan. Nobody responded then for that suggestion: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.msg265783#msg265783 (http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.msg265783#msg265783)
Here is a short Ossie's work: http://www.fluxite.com/WorkingRadiantEnergy.pdf (http://www.fluxite.com/WorkingRadiantEnergy.pdf)

I think Tito wanted to say here is how the ringing of the coil occurs, that produce or attract ambient or radiant energy....

And i think this Ossie motor is what Magnacoaster built? it has similarities with his rotor version and later on changed to a Solid State version....

Hope Tito is ok....

Good day to all....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: poynt99 on January 15, 2012, 11:20:22 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 07, 2012, 05:06:24 PM
I personally think the secret to free energy is the shorted coil, when a shorted coil is introduced into a system the shorted coil will pull in the aether, when a coil is pusled by a circut or a magnet the field builds then collapses into the coil windings (bemf) but when a shorted coil is pulsed its field fluctuates but will not collapse, the other fields collapsing will draw energy from the shorted coils field if they are in resonance.

How would you propose to pulse a shorted coil? Do you mean as in pulsing a primary with a shorted secondary?

What makes you believe that a shorted coil's field would not collapse?

.99

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on January 15, 2012, 04:34:20 PM

Quote from: poynt99 on January 15, 2012, 11:20:22 AM
How would you propose to pulse a shorted coil? Do you mean as in pulsing a primary with a shorted secondary?

What makes you believe that a shorted coil's field would not collapse?

.99

Guys, I believe this book can address your concerns in a very positive, yet simple way. I posted this link once and I remind it again now. It's written with a quite simple languague, it explains a lot, however: "Practical-Transformer-Handbook" by Irving Gottlieb (187 pages in .pdf).
http://www.mediafire.com/?kzxzzmnmzwn

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: light2011 on January 16, 2012, 09:06:51 AM

Hello to all,
I think something is strange...somebady erase my ecouragement message, to continue research on this device?
..... in other way, i think we talk about parametric resonance - in our case change periodically value for L.
User Lt.BOLO make that with succes on Energeticforum. Besides on JLNaudin site we have some example.

GOOD LOOK !!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 17, 2012, 04:02:36 PM

@Dave45,
You said:

QuoteI guess Im just a hopeful skeptic I believe Ramero's rig was ou Im not sure he knew why but I believe it was.
In a couple of the pics of his coils you could see solder where he extended the wires, I believe they shorted causing a permanent field one that would not collapse but energy could be drained from.

If this is true, then is this also the secret of the TPU? What can this teach us about Tito's rig? - i.e., is there a common denominator?
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: light2011 on January 18, 2012, 05:55:54 AM

Hello to everybody !!! :)
i hope is not off-topic, but I find some interesting similarity between Tito's drawing and my old book - Radio TV guide / 1987.

similarity with tito's doc1_1.JPG = may be JT, in fact is autobloking oscilator(energetic efficency aprox. 80%) who deliver power to load when T is blocked. Here Tito say to control brake on peak....
similarity with tito's doc1_2.JPG = A&V for similarity with tito's doc1_1.JPG
similarity with tito's doc2.JPG = diagram show how is modified F osc., I diode when P load is changed
similarity with tito's doc3.JPG = diagram show priciple to stabilize output voltage at autobloking oscilator
similarity with tito's doc4_1.JPG = principle for old tv power supply, made in Germany, named CESSY(Compact Energy Saving System). Theoretichal energetic efficency is arround 95% !!! . 220V/50hz can be any voltage for us.
similarity with tito's doc4_2.JPG = show variation Volt. on T2 and Amp on Ls ( BDO is name for L of yoke...)

If you consider useful, i can give more information. For me is am ideea to start somehow...
I think Tito give us a mix of information from multiple projects....
for start we need a block diagram...how do you think? Theory is great but is nothing except checking in practice. Then step by step, we can go away... only STEP BY STEP and verify, and re-verify every step! For this we need a block diagram!
This are my proposals for START!

With your advice I can proceed to start at work!

good luck and God bless you!

Light ... for you !!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: light2011 on January 25, 2012, 05:55:05 AM

with regret I assist to dead a good ideea...
I will work alone and I post result on new...story!
Good luck to every one to road to OU!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 25, 2012, 06:09:50 PM

@ Light2011,
Before you go, take a look at image #6 (2nd row down, right hand side) at this link:
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg301294/#msg301294 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg301294/#msg301294)

Tito has mentioned over the course of this thread that his setup is fairly simple:
- wire
- caps
- discharging into coils
- diodes
- avramenko plug
He has also mentioned the need for balance in the system.

I personally believe this apparatus involves a wire (perhaps a TPU type of iron coil, shorted), a coil perpendicular to the wire (possibly shorted) with a secondary, discharging into cap through a diode, back into coil-diode-cap, coil-diode-cap and possibly an Avramenko plug to a resistive load. In this way, you have cascading discharges, possibly drawing in cold electricity from the aether. I may or may not be right, but I invite your consideration.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on January 25, 2012, 06:39:58 PM

Quote from: light2011 on January 25, 2012, 05:55:05 AM
with regret I assist to dead a good ideea...
I will work alone and I post result on new...story!
Good luck to every one to road to OU!

Hi Light2011,
Don't be discouraged if no one answers your post, just continue experimenting and posting here, everybody will be glad of it....
cause sometimes everybody is busy doing other experiments...

God bless us all!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 30, 2012, 11:41:05 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on January 25, 2012, 06:09:50 PM
@ Light2011,
Before you go, take a look at image #6 (2nd row down, right hand side) at this link:
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg301294/#msg301294 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg301294/#msg301294)

Tito has mentioned over the course of this thread that his setup is fairly simple:
- wire
- caps
- discharging into coils
- diodes
- avramenko plug
He has also mentioned the need for balance in the system.

I personally believe this apparatus involves a wire (perhaps a TPU type of iron coil, shorted), a coil perpendicular to the wire (possibly shorted) with a secondary, discharging into cap through a diode, back into coil-diode-cap, coil-diode-cap and possibly an Avramenko plug to a resistive load. In this way, you have cascading discharges, possibly drawing in cold electricity from the aether. I may or may not be right, but I invite your consideration.
Bob

These are a lot of what Tito had talked about. In the ruff. ;]

But I believe that there must be a way to have a self increasing oscillation. Either it can be started, kicked, then once it has self increased, then discharge to load or storage.
Or Kick, kick, kick till the level has been reached for discharge. Like Teslas little tapper box that made a whole building shake into resonance. Imagine the energy created from a bunch of miniscule taps.

Tito talked about being careful, big voltage can happen. So what if there is a configuration of coil, coils, bifi, trifi, caduceus, etc. that once started or kicked, that it could increase on its own, up to a level higher energy for discharge.

Possibly the tapper method would be safer, due to the possibility of the self riser of over doing itself. Safety measures would have to be worked out, which shouldnt be too difficult once we know what we are dealing with.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 31, 2012, 12:22:14 AM

Now, lets say we have a tapper setup.

We connect a cap across the primary of a transformer and we have a circuit that pulses the primary at the LC resonant freq. We can measure the sec and see the sine wave output.

But if we load the secondary, and look at the output, we may only see the pulse, and maybe a small ring down, depending on the level of the load, because the secondary loaded kills off the resonance of the primary.

So if we have a transformer, that the secondary is wound around the same core as the primary and around a second core, then when we load the secondary, it wont kill the primary resonance.

So now we can, with little kicks, get the primary really shakin.

These are things Im working on. Fun Fun Fun. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: light2011 on January 31, 2012, 06:58:11 AM

Bob, Crazycut06, Magluvin,...all
I have a proposal: to work like a team involved in a project. That because all, we have a lot of ideea, different materials(we are around the world...). Step by step we must to validate(almost all or majority of us) every stage. Personally I'm determinated to make a device OU reproductible by every person who have some skills on electronics...I claim that beacause, all of us, see here and another forum that good intention and good skills are lost; work conditions are very different and MEASUREMENT are some trap. Maybe some are good in theory and don't have equipment, some in theory and practice, etc... Is simple to post some scheme(real and good intentions!) and after a lot of people work to reproduct...without result, inoperative. After, people become nervous, debate is ... religious without link to OU!!! So time go, and go and i don't know if OU come only from word... So my opinion is to concentrate to define a block diagram. Next define and practical realise and measure every block. We move to next block after most of us obtain same results! May take a time, but result is guaranteed!!! :)
Now I want to know your opinion about this organized manner of work.
Good luck, a lot of healthy to you and yours familly!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on January 31, 2012, 03:55:48 PM

Quote from: light2011 on January 31, 2012, 06:58:11 AM
...
I have a proposal: to work like a team involved in a project.
...

For the beginning, to show a real seriousness, I propose everyone to provide a fair PROFILE on this forum: give as much info about yourself as possible which can benefit everyone. Just like it would be an info for a job application. Such a group should even exchange their phone numbers using PM (Personal Message) option or any such communication means.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 31, 2012, 09:52:15 PM

Mags, I like your idea about wrapping the secondary around the primary, but also around a second coil. But first, let me backtrack a bit:

QuoteThese are a lot of what Tito had talked about. In the ruff. ;]

But I believe that there must be a way to have a self increasing oscillation. Either it can be started, kicked, then once it has self increased, then discharge to load or storage.

Do you think that if we're dealing with a coil of iron wire (perhaps a shorted coil), that its magnetic current might be helped along (sped up) by bringing it into contact with a magnet? Maybe this would get our "kicks" going.

I used germanium diodes with mine, but I think my caps were too large. Perhaps we need verrry low voltage caps in order to charge up and kick. Back to the bench when I get time.

Guys, I like your enthusiasm for a focussed collaboration. I just don't have the time, with multiple projects on the go in other areas of life. I'm glad to contribute the little I can to this thread.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 31, 2012, 10:34:58 PM

GOOD DAY AGAIN EVERYONE :)

AFTER A LONG PERIOD OF SHORT BREATH, I AM NOW GRADUALLY RECOVERING.
STRESS, COLD WEATHER TRIGGERS MY ASTHMA ESPECIALLY WHEN I'M THINKING FOR A LOT OF SOLUTIONS REGARDING SOME PROBLEMS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT HOT WATER THERAPHY IS ONE THAT FITS IN ME.

BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE LORD JESUS FOR SPAIRING MY LIFE AGAIN AND FOR THOSE WHO GAVE SOME PRAYERS FOR ME THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!!! :D

@QWERT
THANKS FOR THE OFFER BUDDY BUT I CANNOT DO AND ACCEPT THAT OK?, OUR FRIENDSHIP HERE IS ENOUGH
FOR ME. ;)

@ALL
FOR ALL BAD THINGS THAT I'VE DONE, BAD WORDS, ANYTHING BAD THAT CAME OUT FROM ME
I'M REALLY SORRY EVERYONE.

AND NOW I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE TO ALL OF YOU THE BEST PATENT OF TESLA THAT I REALLY LOVE.
THIS PATENT IS ACTUALLY MY FIRST JOY IN FREE ENERGY I HOPE YOU TOO.
THE PATENT IS 577,670
THIS PATENT IS ACTUALLY THE MISSING IN FIGURE 7 BECAUSE THEY TRIED TO HIDE IT IN ONE OF TESLA'S LECTURES. ;D
STUDY IT CAREFULLY GOODLUCK AND GODBLESS.

OK LETS FORGET THAT NOW. I HAVE A JOKE TO ALL OF YOU BUDDY.
AND TO THE ATHEIST THIS IS JUST A JOKE OK? ;)

PROF: CLASS DID YOU SEE GOD?
CLASS: NO SIR!
PROF: DID YOU TOUCH IT?
CLASS: NO SIR!
PROF: SEE THERE IS NO GOD!
TEETSLA: PROF DID YOU SEE YOUR BRAIN?
PROF: NO TEETS!
TEETSLA : DID YOU TOUCH IT PROF?
PROF: NO TEETS!!
TEETSLA: SEE CLASSMATE OUR PROFESSOR DOESN'T HAVE A BRAIN LETS GO HOME!

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 31, 2012, 10:37:47 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on January 31, 2012, 09:52:15 PM
Mags, I like your idea about wrapping the secondary around the primary, but also around a second coil. But first, let me backtrack a bit:Do you think that if we're dealing with a coil of iron wire (perhaps a shorted coil), that its magnetic current might be helped along (sped up) by bringing it into contact with a magnet? Maybe this would get our "kicks" going.

I used germanium diodes with mine, but I think my caps were too large. Perhaps we need verrry low voltage caps in order to charge up and kick. Back to the bench when I get time.

Guys, I like your enthusiasm for a focussed collaboration. I just don't have the time, with multiple projects on the go in other areas of life. I'm glad to contribute the little I can to this thread.
Bob

Hey Bob

Well, maybe I should describe that better. Ill attach the pdf of the multi core inductor/transformer below. Ive posted it before, but who wants to go back and find it, when I gots it right here. ;] Some people will make ya go find it. :o

Imagine a toroid core with a primary on the one side and the secondary on the other. So instead, when winding the secondary, loop it through an additional core.

Or wind the toroid as a normal transformer, primary and secondary, and, get another toroid core and wind on it, the same number of turns as the secondary winding. Now add that in series with the secondary. Will work the same either way.

In the typical transformer, when we load the secondary, the primary inductance decreases, allowing more primary current to flow.

When we add the new core, new magnetic circuit, to the secondary, when we load it, the primary inductance actually increases, causing the primary current to be lower than idle current. :o
Also, if we operate the primary at resonance, loading the secondary wont kill the oscillation. So we can tap that oscillation very efficiently to keep it going, as compared to driving a typical transformer as usual.

It is possible that this was Tesla's use for the "extra coil", to allow taking power from a secondary, without spoiling the resonant state of his primaries. :o

As for a self increasing oscillation, Im just thinking that it may exist, from some things that Tito has said, and in Utkins document(below also), where it seemed to inform us of the need for a spark gap specifically for regulation. And it even explains some things about getting the self rising oscillation. (secret 1 Utkin pdf)

Ive had a lot less time to be on the bench. But im working on these ideas individually to get a feel for them, and hopefully when I put it all together, we see some good stuff. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 31, 2012, 10:53:10 PM

In the Utkin doc, it describes the coil configuration like they are using in the latest Kapanadze circuit. Below is a cut and past of the coil from the Kap thread as of late.
Notice the blue winding, center tapped and each half is wound in opposite directions.

Gotoluc had a self oscillating toroid, where one half of the core was wound in one direction and opposite on the other.
So there has to be something to it. Too many similarities.

And Stiveps trumpet wave form? Is that blue coil self building its oscillation? :o

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 31, 2012, 11:12:17 PM

Teeets!!!

Glad yer ok bud. ;D To pray, is the way. ;]

As for the pat. Are you trying to get us to notice the rotary controller? Like the Ozone pat, there is also a rotary circuit controller. :o ::) ??? :-*

Mags 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 31, 2012, 11:20:57 PM

Hey Light
We have a lot of little pieces to put together, your welcome to join the big puzzle. ;)

Hey Quert

Sounds great, if only the world were not such a scary place for the likes of us. :o ;D
I wish it were not. ;) sucks.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: energy1234hope on February 01, 2012, 12:53:48 AM

Glad you are okay teets all the best with your health sir. Hopefully before god takes you you will share your knowledge with the world.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 01, 2012, 02:57:07 AM

@ ENERGY1234

Well, yes i believe that the purpose why i'm here is to share all i have, but i think you have to understand also that i want it to inherit by my children cause if i will teach everything then its like it is saturated and my children will no longer earn money from it, but don't worry i am documenting everything for their sake. ;)

@mags
yap! and not just that, notice that tesla said there that we can charge many caps right? and that is obvious ok? this tech actually is good but there is much better than this one.

Notice that everything that we discuss here is already in applied in kapanadze tech right? but also there is much simpler way than that actually and very much controllable, flexible and adjustable. and that is what we really need in an OU tech. :)

Currently i am focusing on obsoleting the AC and growing DC is much better and safe in handling.

@Light
buddy you are very welcome here and scrutinize a lot of things.
and also we cannot work well if there is no light but i think we have to switch it on first right? ;)

@all
remember what sm said SMALL KICK INTO BIG KICK OF COARSE ALWAYS!

THIS TIP OF SM IS REALLY THE KEY AND REALLY MADE ME TO DISCOVER THIS FREE ENERGY. ;)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 01, 2012, 06:27:56 AM

Yehey! Sir Teets is back!
Am a bit worried of you not posting this past few weeks, i understand that you are so busy doing your works, and that asthma of yours is hindering you, but GOD is good all the time! he is our Jehova Rapah!

@Light2011,
Thanks for your idea, feel free to join us here... I beleive you have many things in mind to share... ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 01, 2012, 08:47:48 AM

seems we now need to find where is Figure 7 :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 01, 2012, 12:31:12 PM

Quote from: forest on February 01, 2012, 08:47:48 AM
seems we now need to find where is Figure 7 :o

Figure 7? What about 3, 4, 5, 6 and 8? :o :o ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 01, 2012, 12:38:03 PM

I have not read the Pat yet. Maybe there is reference to fig7 there. There could also be evidence that text has been removed also. Or maybe we have to look into the lectures. Maybe there is a copy of the pat that hasnt been altered.

Will look after work. At lunch. :D Grumbelly

Mags :o :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 01, 2012, 12:41:42 PM

Here is a joke for ya Teets

little girl says, Dad, why dont you quit drinking? :o
dad says, Because Im not a quitter! :o :o

;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ElectricGoose on February 01, 2012, 01:54:09 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 31, 2012, 10:34:58 PM
AND NOW I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE TO ALL OF YOU THE BEST PATENT OF TESLA THAT I REALLY LOVE.
THIS PATENT IS ACTUALLY MY FIRST JOY IN FREE ENERGY I HOPE YOU TOO.
THE PATENT IS 577,670
THIS PATENT IS ACTUALLY THE MISSING IN FIGURE 7 BECAUSE THEY TRIED TO HIDE IT IN ONE OF TESLA'S LECTURES. ;D
STUDY IT CAREFULLY GOODLUCK AND GODBLESS.

OK LETS FORGET THAT NOW.

LOL...more buffoonery from a liar. Fig.7 in that patent only shows you how to steal electricity from the grid which is why Tito speaks in childish riddles that have you all running around in circle. Ahhh...the illusion of 'helping' when you are in fact confusing the masses more and more.
I have said this before and I will say it again. Wake up!! Tesla ALWAYS ran his experiments on grid power...NEVER once did he have a self running supply in either large or small scale. He ran them at night in Colorado Springs so as to not disrupt the town power supply. Does this sound like a man who had an abundance of energy?? LMFAO

You always need a small oscillation to draw from because energy is neither destroyed or created only TRANSFORMED. Is Tesla tech efficient?? YES!! Much more efficient than todays rubbish motors but NOT more than 100%.
Steven Mark a known liar, admitted to having batteries in his device...it was not OU...just a highly efficient transformer. When you run at high efficiency you can make it appear like it is OU...have a look at Kapanadze videos with undeluded eyes. In all of them he still plugs a cord into the mains power supply or has a big battery bank.

Wesley shouting at Kapanadze thread "I have OU...I have OU" months back. LMAO. I posted and said the schematic is NOT OU and was harangued for it as though I shall crush your silly dreams. Now months later and a few more hundred pages they are still running around in circles with absolutely no understanding of the basic Tesla principles. Holding in their hands half glowing lightbulbs and meanwhile pumping 15 watts into a string of coils through signal generators. Oh my...the eyes only see what they want!!!! I have a crappy $20.00 inverter that is more efficient than that!

Tito is a liar and fool. He first hides what isnt his and then pretends to have more than what he does only so he can continue to steal from the grid. THAT is his OU.

So long suckers.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 01, 2012, 06:38:37 PM

Hey Mags,
Have'nt seen some video from you lately? busy from work? :D

Good Day!
crazycut

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 01, 2012, 06:42:28 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 01, 2012, 12:31:12 PM
Figure 7? What about 3, 4, 5, 6 and 8? :o :o ;D

Mags

Well Teets will say "You should FIGURE it out!" LoL! ;D ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 01, 2012, 08:54:46 PM

Hey Tito!
Good to see you back in action. I'm glad to see you're still around - may it be for a long time.

Mags,
I like what you're saying. I'll have to go out and get some more wire to try something new based on your suggestions.

Guys,
Here's what I'm thinking -- Tito mentioned the importance of the first kick. From what I see in SM's videos, he's accelerating the magnetic current (MC) in his device with a magnet. I assume this is to get enough MC passing over a perpendicularly wound coil (and secondary?) to induce a charge to load up a cap. As I said in another post, would it be possible that the cap would discharge into a new coil with a secondary and into another cap - coil - secondary in cascading fashion, and finally to an AV plug to a resistive load?

Mags, bearing in mind your thoughts about primary oscillation, would it be posible that the cascading discharge of caps into coils, might find its own rate of oscillation? What if variable caps were used, so that the apparatus could be tuned to resonant frequency? I understand what you mean about winding the secondary also to a second coil. I just have to get my head around how it fits with my own thinking about cascading discharges from caps into coils.

Sorry for going on. I'm kind of brainstorming out loud, and will get back to the bench in the next few days.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 01, 2012, 09:33:43 PM

Hey Crazycut
Yea, I was suprised that I hadnt done a vid since sep. :o

lately, I havnt done or found anything worth making a vid, till now. ;)

Hey Bob
As for cascading cap discharge, Im not sure of the purpose. I know Teets has given tips, but I have thought and thought on it. At one point I was assuming that he meant to use a voltage doubler/multiplier(diodes and caps), charging them in parallel and discharging in series.
I see it as a way to increase the voltage of an ac input. But it would be the same as charging a single cap, equal to the capacitance of the doublers caps in series, from a source that is already at the desired voltage.

And charging say 10 caps in parallel, the discharging them sequentially, it seems there would be a gap/time period after the seq discharge to recharge the 10.
Im not sure of the purpose. Why not charge 1 cap, then discharge and repeat.

I wish I knew. It would be something new to add to the idea arsenal. ;]

There are probably many different ways to gitter dun.

For me, Teets hasnt given enough info to figure that out yet.. :-X ;) :-*

I popped something in my Soundstream amplifier I was using during experiments.
I wasnt overloading the amp, something fed back to it. Its something in the preamp circuit. Output transistors are fine and power supply is good..
So I picked up another amp from my warehouse to continue. Got a few.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on February 02, 2012, 12:06:09 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx_generator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx_generator)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: overoverunity on February 02, 2012, 02:19:46 AM

Quote from: d3x0r on February 02, 2012, 12:06:09 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx_generator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx_generator)

Useless. A Marx Gen does not produce usable power, only high voltage with losses at each stage.

Why do you post under so many different usernames Tito? If you deny it I will post your IP address to all your usernames.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 02, 2012, 06:21:18 AM

Quote from: overoverunity on February 02, 2012, 02:19:46 AM
Useless. A Marx Gen does not produce usable power, only high voltage with losses at each stage.

Why do you post under so many different usernames Tito? If you deny it I will post your IP address to all your usernames.

:o ??? again? :o ???

Please buddy i'm not a liar you can asked stefan if i am d3x0r or anybody .

To tell you the truth From the start up to now i'm only using one username and i can stand that in front of the Lord Jesus. :)

you know what? i can also do what you want to prove and that is easy in computer technology.

but here is a tip if i am the others, and that is how the way i talk right? :)

and my friends here knows me more than you buddy. ;)

you can call me a little bit teaser but thats the way my teaching is . and thats me BUT! i'm not!! a Liar!!!! >:( You Liar!!! oops i'm not angry ;D ;) love you buddy ;)

first thing for sure they know my ape English ;D

etc!

You know what? we can actually convert that Marx Gen into useable power, that! is if you only knew. :P

Another thing, overoverunity is too much and too much is bad ;D
You know what? i have a feeling that you are one of my opponent from the past ;D
you are again igniting my patience and tempered ;D
hope it will not trigger my asthmama ;D

mags i like your joke thats funny hahaha :D

@bob
Thanks buddy. ;)

@romerouk
just in case your reading here.
ok for the world please tell what dave45 has notice, ok if you will tell i will tell also ok?
i know you know what i mean ;) ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: romerouk on February 02, 2012, 08:59:44 AM

@Tito L. Oracion (http://www.overunity.com/profile/tito-l-oracion.16942/)
Hi,
I am not sure what you are reffering to...???
Dave45 has come with many great ideeas, can you please explain more?
I shared most of my ideeas.

Regards,
Romero

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 02, 2012, 06:25:15 PM

I guess Im just a hopeful skeptic I believe Ramero's rig was ou Im not sure he knew why but I believe it was.In a couple of the pics of his coils you could see solder where he extended the wires, I believe they shorted causing a permanent field one that would not collapse but energy could be drained from.

dave45

I smell something very good with this one, can you please sir teach us, and explain more. ;)

TK's tech still has a spark gap and for me that's not clean.
while SM already eliminated that right?

and spark gap solution is just a matter of coil, diode and caps and that's a big tip. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 02, 2012, 07:20:21 PM

Tito Malito!!!
Back from your retreato.
Some day we'll have to meet-o
To discuss this OU feat-o.
A coil and a cap-o
The truth is in my lap-o
But maybe no spark gap-o
With a diode in the wrap-o.
Tito Malito
Con secreto pequenito (with a little secret)
Que me trae loquito. (that drives me crazy)
Ay mi pobre cerebrito! (Ayy my poor little brain!)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 02, 2012, 10:54:46 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 02, 2012, 06:25:15 PM
I guess Im just a hopeful skeptic I believe Ramero's rig was ou Im not sure he knew why but I believe it was.In a couple of the pics of his coils you could see solder where he extended the wires, I believe they shorted causing a permanent field one that would not collapse but energy could be drained from.

dave45

I smell something very good with this one, can you please sir teach us, and explain more. ;)

TK's tech still has a spark gap and for me that's not clean.
while SM already eliminated that right?

and spark gap solution is just a matter of coil, diode and caps and that's a big tip. ;)

Hey teets

Are we talking about just a shorted coil, or one that has a cap, LC. Or, bifi cap built in?
Just wondering. Is it a sustained oscillation, or just a sustained forward current in the coil?

Magnuts :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 03, 2012, 06:29:42 AM

I guess Im just a hopeful skeptic I believe Ramero's rig was ou Im not sure he knew why but I believe it was. in a couple of the pics of his coils you could see solder where he extended the wires, I believe they shorted causing a permanent field one that would not collapse but energy could be drained from.

dave45

Hi All,
What particular pictures is dave45 reffering to from this post?
@ Teets
who is SM?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 03, 2012, 06:59:55 AM

Hey Tito I dont have all the answers but I do have a lot of idea's, Im still learning.

If we look at a transformer, some are getting conversion at 98 percent effeciency but no ou, so we need something else, we can use a permanent magnet or a shorted coil.

What does a shorted coil do, I think it creates a standing field that can be drawn from.

I froze a coil in water and found there is an electric field that surrounds the coil perpendicular to the magnetic field, my work and idea's can be found over on energetic forum in the "electric field of a magnet" thread.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 03, 2012, 08:27:51 AM

Hi Dave45,
Are you reffering to a multi wound coil? is freezing a coil creates a superconductor?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2012, 09:40:16 PM

@all

The secret is coming in and out in your mouth, i think tesla is watching and laughing out loud currently. ;D

if i will tell that then no more fun ;D Tesla is great and genius!!!!!!!!!

@cut06
SM = is not Shoe Mart but Steven Mark. :D

@ dave45
great buddy

@mags
exactly! ;D

@romero
Did i made some kind of a bulls eye sir? oooh sorry :) lol ;D joke

;D >:( :( :o 8) ;D
:-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2012, 09:57:23 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 02, 2012, 10:54:46 PM
Hey teets

Are we talking about just a shorted coil, or one that has a cap, LC. Or, bifi cap built in?
Just wondering. Is it a sustained oscillation, or just a sustained forward current in the coil?

Magnuts :o

Hey teetsa

Well, if I have to put everything I learned here and sum it up to this point....

In one of Titos early posts, he mentioned winding 3 wires together.

So maybe 2 are connected as a series connected bifi, shorted. And the 3rd wire is the drain winding.
Most likely we have one more winding for input pulses.

Ive seen a drawing of a transformer that had a center tapped secondary. One half had a cap across it, and the other was the output.

Dunno, will have to try. Whether it is just a shorted winding, or a shorted bifi, trying each wont be that difficult.

Thanks Tweets. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2012, 10:25:02 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 03, 2012, 09:57:23 PM
Hey teetsa

Well, if I have to put everything I learned here and sum it up to this point....

In one of Titos early posts, he mentioned winding 3 wires together.

So maybe 2 are connected as a series connected bifi, shorted. And the 3rd wire is the drain winding.
Most likely we have one more winding for input pulses.

Ive seen a drawing of a transformer that had a center tapped secondary. One half had a cap across it, and the other was the output.

Dunno, will have to try. Whether it is just a shorted winding, or a shorted bifi, trying each wont be that difficult.

Thanks Tweets. ;)

Mags

Next time you call me pitza instead of teetsa so that it sounds delicious. lol ;D
And also tweet tweets instead of one tweets so that it make you sounds like a bird and you will find loughing with yourself. lol ;D
You try it! ;D hahahahahhhaha

Try to make crossing in your finger before switching or else it might explode. i'm not responsible for that buddy. lol :D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2012, 10:35:02 PM

Hey Pizza :o ;D

You have said this about the exploding, and such. Is there no way to install safeguards to prevent this. Just BOOM. and I know I have something? lol
Should I do it in the back yard or on concrete?

Boom Bang POP Zap! pop pop pip :o

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2012, 10:38:48 PM

12600 reads in 7 days here. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: garrypm on February 03, 2012, 10:42:39 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40&lr=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40&lr=1)

Watch #2 as well

Garry

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2012, 10:48:52 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 03, 2012, 10:35:02 PM
Hey Pizza :o ;D

You have said this about the exploding, and such. Is there no way to install safeguards to prevent this. Just BOOM. and I know I have something? lol
Should I do it in the back yard or on concrete?

Boom Bang POP Zap! pop pop pip :o

Mags

;D hahahahahahahahah lol

oh, Yes, the general rule is you try it first in a very small amount of energy ok? then see the amplification.

Then if in big application try the tesla self safety by putting some lots of metal in your body insulated to you of coarse for lightning strike. lol, and some lots of fuses ok?

Also make lots of antenna near where you are conducting your experiment and be sure connect all of those in the ground ok. i think that is self explanatory ok. ;)

wear some gloves! ;)

And wear some lots of logic and lots of sense of common ;D

take care buddy!!! :)

;D

Title: Re: radiant receiver
Post by: rescoalabama on February 03, 2012, 11:03:56 PM

hi everyone
i am working on a radiant energy receiver making some headway is there anyone who also working on this ideal?

Title: Re: radiant receiver
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2012, 11:07:28 PM

Quote from: rescoalabama on February 03, 2012, 11:03:56 PM
hi everyone
i am working on a radiant energy receiver making some headway is there anyone who also working on this ideal?

oh ya we are tackleing everything here and you are very much welcome here buddy. ;)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2012, 11:30:05 PM

lol Wear gloves. :o

This all just seems strange to me. Is it that all the test and experiments in bifi coils, that I just havnt tried it shorted yet? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o ;)

Magnuts :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2012, 11:31:58 PM

Quote from: garrypm on February 03, 2012, 10:42:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40&lr=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40&lr=1)

Watch #2 as well

Garry

You're right buddy i actually showed this a couple of times, and i admit that this method is the first step.

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2012, 11:39:19 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 03, 2012, 11:30:05 PM
lol Wear gloves. :o

This all just seems strange to me. Is it that all the test and experiments in bifi coils, that I just havnt tried it shorted yet? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o ;)

Magnuts :o

yes the one that a midwife is using in delivering a baby. lol its true.

yes,with caps and diode.

And you know what?, after this coarse you will learn how to deliver a baby, congratulation, hahahahahhahahah lol :D :D :D :D :D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2012, 11:44:48 PM

Ok, well Im gunna fiddle tomorrow. Play the fiddle. :o

Thanks for the help Pizza. ;)

Mag sleeps

Title: radiant receiver
Post by: rescoalabama on February 03, 2012, 11:54:13 PM

i am glad to see others who can think out of the box.......lol so many are stuck
the unit i am working on has a constant 14 to 12 vac input seems not to matter what day
i tried the Tesla design without much success but i have learned if you use a full wave rect at the
antenna things start to happen. i have 12vdc which able to charge caps but low current, i was thinking maybe there is way to amplify the voltage before or after it enters the rect has anyone found this out also

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 04, 2012, 05:14:51 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2012, 09:40:16 PM
@all

The secret is coming in and out in your mouth, i think tesla is watching and laughing out loud currently. ;D

if i will tell that then no more fun ;D Tesla is great and genius!!!!!!!!!

@cut06
SM = is not Shoe Mart but Steven Mark. :D

@ dave45
great buddy

@mags
exactly! ;D

@romero
Did i made some kind of a bulls eye sir? oooh sorry :) lol ;D joke

;D >:( :( :o 8) ;D
:-*

Hi Teets,
Lol, ok now i know, im thinki'n to go to ShoeMart...to buy a free energy device, but not anymore... nothing there... hehehe ;D

Title: Re: radiant receiver
Post by: crazycut06 on February 04, 2012, 05:23:47 AM

Quote from: rescoalabama on February 03, 2012, 11:54:13 PM
i am glad to see others who can think out of the box.......lol so many are stuck
the unit i am working on has a constant 14 to 12 vac input seems not to matter what day
i tried the Tesla design without much success but i have learned if you use a full wave rect at the
antenna things start to happen. i have 12vdc which able to charge caps but low current, i was thinking maybe there is way to amplify the voltage before or after it enters the rect has anyone found this out also

Hi rescoalabama,
You can try and experiment with this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2cUS03yNl40 also watch video #2
Tito shared this link before, and then garrypm thanks for reminding...

Happy experimenting!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gnino on February 04, 2012, 05:24:50 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvrhP7snqnk&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvrhP7snqnk&feature=youtu.be)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 07, 2012, 10:10:09 PM

Okay guys, I went back to basics and started with this video Tito posted:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/386928/ (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/386928/)
It's simple to build, you just have to remember to use germanium diodes.

Tito mentioned keeping balance in the system. You can see this also in this Paul's Free Energy from Air circuits (start with video 1).
Same dealio:
http://www.youtube.com/user/INVENTOR3 (http://www.youtube.com/user/INVENTOR3)

Both can be stepped up.

Tito has let us know he's discharging from caps into coils as part of the stepping up process. Next steps...

Take care, and thanks for all the encouragement, Tito. You're a fun guy to be with, but not a fungi to be with.
Okay, okay, bye.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 07, 2012, 10:50:53 PM

;D

@romero
c-mon sir just give at least a little soup of taste about the shorted extended wire ok, just for the world. ;) :D ;D
I think it is time now :) ;)

@bob
that's okay buddy :)
take care! ;)
;D :D

;D >:( :o 8) :( ::) ??? :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( :) ;) ;) :D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 07, 2012, 11:13:37 PM

:o :-* ;D ::) :o

Well, havnt had any melt downs yet. :o

Going over the Utkin doc to try to figure this out.

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o 8)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 08, 2012, 02:22:35 AM

Hi everyone ;D

One time tesla says that voltage and current grows at the same time IN A CERTAIN CONDITION ::) :o ??? :-\

Then hows that happen? >:( :'( :P

ok!

Just one core as SM, hubbard deed, you really need three coils but the two are one and the secondary are included in the two and its power is the product of the two combine coils, we can call them as the driving coils and considered three primaries and from them we can get lots of energy, we can now have many second secondaries. 8)

And That is the truth! ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 08, 2012, 12:57:43 PM

Hey Pizza ;)

The 3 windings, should they be wound at the same time together, or 3 layers?

Also, of the 2 that make 1, are they wound in he same direction or opposite, if layers?

I think im making sense of it. :o 8)

:o :o Ooo Ooo ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 09, 2012, 02:05:11 AM

Good day everybody ;D

Since sir Romero doesn't want to talk about it anymore then ok lets just forget it and lets go back to Bedini. ;D

And TK is there, then lets just chew that one, and forget the essence of beauty. hahahahhaha lol ;D

:o ;D :o >:( :D ;D >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 09, 2012, 02:13:49 AM

:o thats :o :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 09, 2012, 02:17:35 AM

I want Pretty :-* I want Beauty :-*

Bedini is alright, but he aint pretty :o No harm intended John ;)

:o Ooo Ooo

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 09, 2012, 02:23:28 AM

Neo is going out , i have to find oracle :o ???

Matrix in progresss ;D

oh boy i'm being weird again. ;D

somebody inserted a virus in the matrix. :o

:-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 09, 2012, 02:28:11 AM

Pizza in the Matrix 8)

Hey, on that bifi, can adding a cap between the series windings add any benefit? Or is it best ti just use the coils capacitance?

Pizza boy delivers :o

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 09, 2012, 08:04:54 AM

Hi all,
@ Teets,
I have a matrix trilogy dvd, wan't to borrow? (kaso pirata! :P lol)
@ Mags,
Can i order some pizza! ;D
Co'z things are getting more interesting lately! :) :D ;D :o need to sit down and brainstorm! with some pizza on the side! lol :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 09, 2012, 05:21:49 PM

part of solution : http://www.overunity.com/11961/ghazanfar-ali-generator-utlilizing-trapped-energy/new/topicseen/#new (http://www.overunity.com/11961/ghazanfar-ali-generator-utlilizing-trapped-energy/new/topicseen/#new)
look also ufopolitics on energeticforum with radiant energy from coil via two diodes :o
then look at kapanadze thread and connect dots

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2012, 05:54:03 AM

Good day everyone ;D ;)

Analyze the kick ok.

What do you feel on the first kiss ? :-*
What are the affected areas? LOL ;D
is it bothering your tension? LOL ;D
don't you wan't it to reserve it? lol :D

what is your decision? LOL ;D
I know what you think, you always want direct to the point isn't it? :D ;D lol
Always kicking is what you want isn't it ? lol hahahahahahahhahhahahah ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The many the kick the better isn't it, kicking! kicking! kicking! lol hahahahahahahhaha :D :D :D :D :D

Then everything gets crazy! ;D

LOL :D :D :D :D :D ;D

VERY FUNNY BUT TRUTH HAHAHAHAHAHAHH LOL
WHY ARE YOU THINKING MALICIOUSLY? lol joke

8) MATRIX OTITS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 10, 2012, 11:54:29 AM

Tito, what you described looks like many kicks into one big kick. What is the source ? Capacitor or coil ? or Both ?
How resonance is catching aether energy ??/?!!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o

Tito, please see this http://www.overunity.com/11961/ghazanfar-ali-generator-utlilizing-trapped-energy/ and comment .

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2012, 12:38:13 PM

Im thinking Tito is claiming 1 of 2 things

1 kicking the coil at resonance, meaning the kicks happen every cycle of resonance in the shorted bifi. The kicks are in sync with the coils freq.

2 Kicking the shorted bifi and draining power from it with a secondary till the oscillation minimizes then kick again.

Im gunna go with 2

But both should be tested. Going with 2 at first is easier. We dont have to have a circuit that is in sync with the coil. We should be able to monitor the coil for resonance and output 1 kick at a time. Unless the kicks are so small that the coil needs to build in oscillation. If thats the case, then the in sync method would be the next step.

Im going off of Titos first drawing posted. If he was using a relay for kicking, it might be hard to get sync due to low freq switching speeds. Not sure yet, just thinking.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2012, 12:48:19 PM

Considering Titos caution statements, the input kicks should be small in power at first and increase with caution.

We will see. :o Ooo Ooo

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 10, 2012, 04:49:32 PM

Hi Mags,
I tried with a shorted soft steel coil to produce a PMH type of magnetic current, and put a secondary on it (perpendicular) and ran it into a "Free Energy from Thin Air" circuit (caps & diodes). A few milliamps was all it gave (I've only stepped it up once, and know it can be improved by adding layers of caps, and allowing them to discharge into coils - just need time to experiment.)

However, I gather from Tito's and your remarks that the primary/secondary is two coils in one, and your above post is suggesting that this is a shorted bifi coil. Stephan has an interesting comment from an email he received (in Tariel Kapanadze thread) about an iron-copper coil. I'm wondering if this might shed some light. Here's the link:
http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg312292/#msg312292 (http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg312292/#msg312292)

Here's the quote:

QuoteIf you don't want the power but to see just a glimpse of the kicks you can simply wind a double interleaved coil one lead copper one lead iron like so:
http://i43.tinypic.com/120mcjp.jpg (http://i43.tinypic.com/120mcjp.jpg)
Drill small holes for the wires like so:
http://i40.tinypic.com/a2dkps.jpg (http://i40.tinypic.com/a2dkps.jpg)
Make sure it's wound like so:
http://i44.tinypic.com/2drb0ow.jpg (http://i44.tinypic.com/2drb0ow.jpg)
Wind them interleaved but make sure they stay as two separate coils, they are in no way electrically connected to each other.
When this coil is connected to a transistor like is explained exactly in the Carl Doc, one lead serves as trigger the other lead for output, it will act like a blocking oscillator and you can tune it to produce audible tones, and you have a good coil when it reacts heavily to the earths magnetic field.
By this i mean when it produces a steady tone and you move it the frequency will change dramatically.

Of course it will also respond to a magnet and it can respond to both at the same time if the fields correctly blend into each other.

Take it to the next level by hooking it up to a signal source and a scope, and raise the frequency watching the scope carefully.

My problem is that Stephan says "Wind them interleaved but make sure they stay as two separate coils, they are in no way electrically connected to each other" - that is, they're not shorted together. Add to this that BruceTPU says that the 2 coils in the TPU are actually copper and aluminum. -- I'm not sure where to go from here. Would you suggest a shorted bifi iron or soft steel primary/secondary bifi?
Regards,
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2012, 11:52:07 PM

Hey Bob

Im not using iron wire here. just copper.

Ive been reading here on what you are talking about. Leedskalin used iron supposedly. Maybe Ill give it a go after.

What im looking at doing is, wind a single secondary(output coil) on a core first. Then wind 3 wires together, trifi, on top of the secondary. Like 10 layers of secondary and 10 layers of primary(trifi) for example.

One of the 3 wires in the trifi will be my input winding. That is where the kicks come in. The other 2 wires will be connected series bifi and the left over ends will be connected to each other, creating a shorted bifi coil.

I have to figure out the kicking part still, but I have some ideas. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 11, 2012, 10:47:11 AM

Thanks Mags,
I think I'll stay with my shorted iron primary for awhile. Perhaps a shorted iron bifi with a copper secondary might be useful - I might cut the iron primary in half, turn 'er into a bifi, then add the copper; we'll see - gotta think a bit.

I did a lot of reading yesterday, and for what it's worth, it seems that a diode replaces the spark gap in Tesla's setups for radiant energy.

I'm going to continue to tinker with caps to coils (Tito's kick?) and diodes.
Have a good weekend.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 11, 2012, 01:02:43 PM

@Bob Smith.
Would you like Bob, to share the info about replacing spark gap with a diode? A link?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 11, 2012, 08:54:11 PM

@Qwert,
I'll really have to rack my brain to find it. I'm sorry I didn't write down where I saw it. I believe it was someone experimenting with cold electricity commenting on Tesla's setups, saying that the diode effectively replaced the spark gap. Might've been someone on ufopolitics' thread over on energeticforum. Anyway, it stuck with me, and in its context, seemed to make sense. I'm sorry - I should've written down who said it and where. If I find it again, I'll do that.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2012, 04:24:00 AM

Only if sir romero replied :-[ :'( :-\

This really made me feel lonely and disappointed everyone. :( >:(

This technique i admit if you will discover it then this really makes you feel greed. really really simple but very difficult to share. :(
It seems that there is a spell over it. :o

maybe because there are many life's lost for that i guess. :(

so whatever you get here from all the tips i gave then that's yours and congrats :D

There is really secret over there buddy, over-unity is real and truth everyone! 8)
There is really a solution! 8)

A CHAIN REACTION OF FIRE!!!!!!!
Did you try igniting a box of matches with one peace of match stick?

@forest
Every single pulse should be turned into big kick, so therefore the faster the pulse the many big kicks created. so forth and so forth.
note: always cut it at the peak ok. ;)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: broli on February 12, 2012, 05:35:19 AM

"I can't share anything with you but here has some very vague tips and hints that can help you get absolutely nowhere. I really hope you come back to ask me more as its good for my ego and self awareness, the doctor told me attention is the only cure for my disease. Because in reality I have nothing but really enjoy the 15min of fame."

Tito L. Oracion and cosmoLV, very similar posting style, very similar ideologies and very similar behavior. I guess that's the price you pay if you give Internet access to the psychiatric ward.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 12, 2012, 09:28:46 AM

QuoteEvery single pulse should be turned into big kick, so therefore the faster the pulse the many big kicks created. so forth and so forth.
note: always cut it at the peak ok.

Here's an updated version of a paper by Vladimir Utkin that sheds some important light, I think, on the nature of "kicks" in Tesla's setups. 75 pages, a lot of diagrams - worth checking out:
http://www.free-energy-info.com/VladimirUtkin.pdf (http://www.free-energy-info.com/VladimirUtkin.pdf)
See pages 5 and following
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 12, 2012, 02:25:06 PM

Based on reading Utkin's paper, it seems the primary may actually be a copper ccw coil in series with a cw coil (wrapped overtop or alongside), with a cap in between. There's more, and I'm trying to work it out on the bench - may take a few days.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2012, 10:59:40 PM

Quote from: broli on February 12, 2012, 05:35:19 AM
"I can't share anything with you but here has some very vague tips and hints that can help you get absolutely nowhere. I really hope you come back to ask me more as its good for my ego and self awareness, the doctor told me attention is the only cure for my disease. Because in reality I have nothing but really enjoy the 15min of fame."

Tito L. Oracion and cosmoLV, very similar posting style, very similar ideologies and very similar behavior. I guess that's the price you pay if you give Internet access to the psychiatric ward.

I'm sorry bro, i understand you buddy :(

please, i don' t know that cosmoLV ok? is his english style also near an ape english?

ok. i guess i don't have anything more to share. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on February 13, 2012, 12:08:30 AM

http://johnbedini.net/john34/Radiant1.htm

....Under certain conditions an indefinite accumulation of electrical energy takes place.???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 13, 2012, 12:11:53 AM

Oh Pizza. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: hartiberlin on February 13, 2012, 01:26:39 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2012, 05:54:03 AM
Good day everyone ;D ;)

Analyze the kick ok.

What do you feel on the first kiss ? :-*
What are the affected areas? LOL ;D
is it bothering your tension? LOL ;D
don't you wan't it to reserve it? lol :D

what is your decision? LOL ;D
I know what you think, you always want direct to the point isn't it? :D ;D lol
Always kicking is what you want isn't it ? lol hahahahahahahhahhahahah ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The many the kick the better isn't it, kicking! kicking! kicking! lol hahahahahahahhaha :D :D :D :D :D

Then everything gets crazy! ;D

LOL :D :D :D :D :D ;D

VERY FUNNY BUT TRUTH HAHAHAHAHAHAHH LOL
WHY ARE YOU THINKING MALICIOUSLY? lol joke

8) MATRIX OTITS ;D

Some members have complained about you Tito.
If you make fun of this and post these useless posts, I will moderate you until you are going to
get a grip again.

This is the last warning.

Regards, Stefan.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 13, 2012, 07:30:02 PM

@ Stephan,
With all due respect to you, I think Tito is trying to get people to think and learn - outside their box, sometimes with humourous analogies. He has given some very serious and helpful clues. While at times the jokes are a little drawn-out, he has also at times been the target of intense personal attack comments which have been without consequence. I'm sure Tito will tighten things up now. But for the record, which is worse - a bit of humourous clue-dropping or the personal attacks he has received?
I will abide by the forum rules, but feel that this also needs to be said in Tito's defense. He's given a lot of information, in a gradual manner.
Regards,
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 13, 2012, 08:27:07 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on February 13, 2012, 07:30:02 PM
@ Stephan,
With all due respect to you, I think Tito is trying to get people to think and learn - outside their box, sometimes with humourous analogies. He has given some very serious and helpful clues. While at times the jokes are a little drawn-out, he has also at times been the target of intense personal attack comments which have been without consequence. I'm sure Tito will tighten things up now. But for the record, which is worse - a bit of humourous clue-dropping or the personal attacks he has received?
I will abide by the forum rules, but feel that this also needs to be said in Tito's defense. He's given a lot of information, in a gradual manner.
Regards,
Bob

I agree.
Ive been in this thread for a while and Ive never sent a complaint on Teets. :-* ;)

I wonder if the complainers are actually experimenters, and Titis has done them wrong? Or is it for other reasons? Its not like anyone is using this thread other than Tito, forest, me, Bob, Techtron, and a few straglers. Broli snapped the other day. probably him I suppose. Stepping on toes with this shorted bifi maybe? Too bad. Too late. The word is out, and its kickin. We will see......

Kicks Kicks Kickin is a clue with !emphasis! Repeated till it Kicks in(to our tiny boxed in brains) :o :o :o :o :o .

And the shorted bifi, being Kicked into oscillation, as a primary, is new and different than anything I have heard of. Actually he tried to tell you, Stefan, about this in 2009. Where are we, 2012? Working on it.

Think about an ordinary LC, coil and cap. Just back and forth. Now imagine a shorted bifi, with the capacitance distributed throughout. Its hard to comprehend what might exactly be happening there in oscillation, compared to a regular LC.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: energy1234hope on February 13, 2012, 11:23:55 PM

I agree with mags and bob Leave tito be there is enough seriousness in this world without a little bit of humor mixed in with info so if you are going to pick on him you should also do it to half your posters on this site for some of the nasty stuff they say.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on February 14, 2012, 12:54:15 AM

Quote from: energy1234hope on February 13, 2012, 11:23:55 PM
I agree with mags and bob Leave tito be there is enough seriousness in this world without a little bit of humor mixed in with info so if you are going to pick on him you should also do it to half your posters on this site for some of the nasty stuff they say.

I agree too! :)

We are with you Tito ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on February 14, 2012, 01:01:03 AM

What do you feel on the first kiss ? :-* =original voltage
What are the affected areas? LOL ;D =?
is it bothering your tension? LOL ;D = increasingly higher voltage
don't you wan't it to reserve it? lol ;D = capacitor

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 14, 2012, 01:02:27 AM

And its not like nobody is watching this thread. over 17000 views in a couple weeks aint bad. ;]

Teets has friends. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: broli on February 14, 2012, 04:18:29 AM

No I didn't put a complaint forward I also have no reason for it, if I have something to say I say it in public.

But as for Tito's entourage ask yourself what did this kid provide over the course of 3 years and 123 pages in ONE single thread? Did he share ANYTHING besides vagueness and bullshit? Did he send you a working device? Are you really that self deluded? Just like you I believed and trusted Tito to have something significant but it took a few years to notice the opposite some may call that 2 years too late but I'm as open minded as anyone can be. There is a limit to believing someone for so long based on nothing. The title of this forum is "The International Open Source Free Energy Research Forum".

We're not here to play children's game or keep people chasing a carrot on a stick. If you have something noteworthy just share it, no strings attached. That's the meaning of open source. If not don't even bother to make a single post as this forum is not that kind of place. What we are doing here, the goal, is much bigger than any persons ego or monetary benefits. So it's either share or move on.

I'm sure his fanbase won't like what I just said but you can continue chasing after his "clues" for a couple more years to come to the same conclusion.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 14, 2012, 05:25:39 AM

C'mon...gyus . Tito posted a few ready to go schematics, just omitted some information how exactly made the elements.
Take Ghazanfar Ali generator which switch current from large 4700uf capacitor exactly at zero voltage and let parallel tank oscillate with higher frequency, collect that kicks back into capacitor via two diodes for example. That way it can run for hours or days.
Now we need a way to get some juice from it an here Tito said 3 coils on secondary, I assume one is for recharging big cap (if you don't do that with kicks, because kick is higher voltage) and two of them are special formed to copy almost exactly the amoutn of energy from primary without any any bit of influence on primary.
Kapanadze is doing the same, Don Smith, there is no other way, only some nuances.
Don't ask me - I'm just a guy sitting on sofa and making theories

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 14, 2012, 05:27:02 AM

8) :o ??? ::) :( ;D :-[ :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on February 14, 2012, 07:19:48 AM

if tito realy wants to share useful schematic, he will do that. It is nothing more easiest than post schematic he supposedly use, is very easy to post picture of windings style or anything else, in pictures is not need for any language, and specialy universal language of electronics which tito donot understand. Simple fact is ...he is priest which have serious problem in his ego, not scientist.
After year and so many pages and so manny view of this topic is acualty shame because nothing from it, serious work looks quite different.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 14, 2012, 09:46:25 AM

Hi all,
Pls. to others that don't like Tito's attitude in his ways of sharing ideas, you can view here but pls. don't post negative comments that will distract or discourage others following this thread, he has given mostly his ideas, which to some like (me, forest, mags, Tektron, Bob & others) who thinks & beleives in what is shared in this thread.
When we eat we do not swallow our food solid, we chew it... with Tito he is giving us tips to thinker with to learn, not to just give us a working device then replicate it, without knowing how it worked, thats why we have our own brains, put it into use... pls. let him be...
PEACE! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 14, 2012, 11:03:52 AM

Tito

Can we mix radiant energy with hot current into capacitor ????? I have to know before I blow my big cap !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 14, 2012, 09:58:12 PM

Quote from: hartiberlin on February 13, 2012, 01:26:39 PM
Some members have complained about you Tito.
If you make fun of this and post these useless posts, I will moderate you until you are going to
get a grip again.

This is the last warning.

Regards, Stefan.

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

oh boy, i think i have made a very much larger damage to the community of geniuses i guess. :)

I respect you sir, but that post of mine has three meaning that even tesla didn't do in his life, it has truth, comedy, and for men joke. :D

Tesla made only double meaning but me is triple. ;D

i think i was born with humorous behaviour. :)
i'm different and everyone is unique and that's me and that's my way. and did it my way as sinatra said hehehehhehe lol. ;D

i think i hurt a lot of genius and my friends. ;)

I APOLOGIZE EVERYONE, BUT SINCE THE AUTHOR I GUESS CHOSE HIS SIDE, SO I WILL NOW SHUT OFF AS A RESPECT IN THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE SUPPRESSORS HAPPINEST WITH THEIR WHITE LYING STYLE OF THEIR TECHNIQUE. ;) GOT THAT?

sTEPHAN, THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME ACCOMODATED inspite of my foolishness, but you know i don't care about that warning cause i'm not getting anything here, means no lost. ;D

@ all my friends
remember all my tips, study them, have experiment with them, no really harm in trying. caution always try in small energy first ok!
what ever you've'd got then that's yours and no one can steal that from you buddy.
I love you and GOODBYE ;D MARK MY WORD THIS TIME . :)

I'LL BE MISSING YOU EVERYONE. ;D

Goodbye and Godbless
Always pray and read your BIBLE, fight for your salvation! >:(

ps. @forest you try it first in hot and cold water by putting it in a cup and see what happen ;) but please don't try it in your stomach! :D

@harti nice word i like that thank you sir.

Tito L. Oracion now permanently signing off!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 14, 2012, 10:21:58 PM

Quote from: TEKTRON on February 14, 2012, 01:01:03 AM
What do you feel on the first kiss ? :-* =original voltage
What are the affected areas? LOL ;D =?
is it bothering your tension? LOL ;D = increasingly higher voltage
don't you wan't it to reserve it? lol ;D = capacitor

First kiss is first kick ok!

absolutely right!!!
You just forgot the coil buddy its the solution to eliminate the sp-gap, and that's the affected areas ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 14, 2012, 10:27:37 PM

Oh Pizza. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 14, 2012, 10:28:26 PM

It seems that my students now are becoming many cause they now understand the way i spoke . LOL hahahahahahahaa :D ;D

bye buddy take care ;)

and students be careful ok there's really danger there!!! >:(

Tito L. Oracion ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 14, 2012, 10:31:42 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 14, 2012, 10:27:37 PM
Oh Pizza. ;)

Mags

Pizza is good and teetza is bad. hahahahhahahah lol :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 14, 2012, 10:35:40 PM

SIGNING OFF EVERYONE :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
:-X
:-X
:-X
:-X
:-X
:-X
:-X
:-X
:-X
:-X
:-* :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 14, 2012, 10:37:50 PM

Kick the Pizza! lol Bad pizza

Teets. Can you tell us some of your favorite ingredients for the Kick Pizza? :o :o :o :o

Just to keep up with the status quo. ;)

I knew you were not going away. Cuz Your Not A Quitter! ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2012, 12:10:45 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 14, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
Kick the Pizza! lol Bad pizza

Teets. Can you tell us some of your favorite ingredients for the Kick Pizza? :o :o :o :o

Just to keep up with the status quo. ;)

I knew you were not going away. Cuz Your Not A Quitter! ;D

Mags

Sorry buddy i'm not a quitter but i'm a respectful man . ;D

i'm a man of words, well, sometimes i'm failing just because of reasonable reason. ;D

for me you are the best player here buddy ;)

buy buddy i'll just watch from now on, and watch when i only want to watch. 8)

Goodbye and this is sealed with a :-*

lol

ps: i only eat the mushroom in the pizza co'z massive energy exploded in a room if you fail in some sense of common. ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 15, 2012, 12:20:07 AM

@Tito.
With the respect to you Tito, I hope you'll change your mind yet.
@All:
@ http://www.panaceauniversity.org/ (http://www.panaceauniversity.org/) I found a pdf "EVGRAY vibrator circuit". On the very first page of this doc: "Quote â€"I suggest that you all read page 304 and the section on resonance pg 340 from Teslaâ€™s book "The Inventions, Researches, and Writings of Nikola Tesla"." What is on page 304 of "The Inventions..."? This:

"...plan is to charge condensers, from a direct or alternate-current source, preferably of high-tension, and to discharge them disruptively while observing well-known conditions necessary to maintain the oscillations of the current. In view of the general interest taken in high-frequency currents and effects producible by them, it seems to me advisable to dwell at some length upon this method of conversion. In order to give you a clear idea of the action, I will suppose that a continuous-current generator is employed, which is often very convenient. It is desirable that the generator should possess such high tension as to be able to break through a small air space. If this is not the case, then auxiliary means have to be resorted to, some of which will be indicated subsequently. When the condensers are charged to a certain potential, the air, or insulating space, gives way and a disruptive discharge occurs. There is then a sudden rush of current and generally a large portion of accumulated electrical energy spends itself. The condensers are thereupon quickly charged and the same process is repeated in more or less rapid succession. To produce such sadden rushes of current it is necessary to observe certain conditions. If the rate at which the condensers are discimrged is the same as that at which they are charged, then, clearly, in the assumed case the condensers do not come into play. If the rate of discharge be smaller than the rate of charging, then, again, the condensers cannot play an important part. But if, on the contrary, the rate of discharging is greater than that of charging, then a succession of rushes of current is obtained. It is evident that, if the rate at which the energy is dissipated by the discharge is very much greater than the rate of supply to the condensers, the sudden rushes will be comparatively few, with long-time intervals between. This alwavs occurs when a condenser of considerable capacity is charged by means of a comparatively small machine. If the rates of supply and dissipation are not widely different, then the rushes of current will be in quicker succession, and this the more, the more nearly equal both the rates are, until limitations incident to eacli case and depending upon a number of causes are reached. Thus we are able to obtain from a continuous-current generator as rapid a succession of discharges as we like. Of course, the higher the tension of the generator, the smaller need be the capacity of the condensers, and for this reason, principally, it is of advantage to employ a generator of very high tension. Besides, such a generator permits the attaining of greater rates of vibration."
Page 340 starts an article about resonance.

"The Inventions...": http://ia700302.us.archive.org/16/items/inventionsresear00martiala/inventionsresear00martiala.pdf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2012, 12:33:23 AM

Quote from: Qwert on February 15, 2012, 12:20:07 AM
@Tito.
With the respect to you Tito, I hope you'll change your mind yet.
@All:
@ http://www.panaceauniversity.org/ (http://www.panaceauniversity.org/) I found a pdf "EVGRAY vibrator circuit". On the very first page of this doc: "Quote â€"I suggest that you all read page 304 and the section on resonance pg 340 from Teslaâ€™s book "The Inventions, Researches, and Writings of Nikola Tesla"." What is on page 304 of "The Inventions..."? This:

"...plan is to charge condensers, from a direct or alternate-current source, preferably of high-tension, and to discharge them disruptively while observing well-known conditions necessary to maintain the oscillations of the current. In view of the general interest taken in high-frequency currents and effects producible by them, it seems to me advisable to dwell at some length upon this method of conversion. In order to give you a clear idea of the action, I will suppose that a continuous-current generator is employed, which is often very convenient. It is desirable that the generator should possess such high tension as to be able to break through a small air space. If this is not the case, then auxiliary means have to be resorted to, some of which will be indicated subsequently. When the condensers are charged to a certain potential, the air, or insulating space, gives way and a disruptive discharge occurs. There is then a sudden rush of current and generally a large portion of accumulated electrical energy spends itself. The condensers are thereupon quickly charged and the same process is repeated in more or less rapid succession. To produce such sadden rushes of current it is necessary to observe certain conditions. If the rate at which the condensers are discimrged is the same as that at which they are charged, then, clearly, in the assumed case the condensers do not come into play. If the rate of discharge be smaller than the rate of charging, then, again, the condensers cannot play an important part. But if, on the contrary, the rate of discharging is greater than that of charging, then a succession of rushes of current is obtained. It is evident that, if the rate at which the energy is dissipated by the discharge is very much greater than the rate of supply to the condensers, the sudden rushes will be comparatively few, with long-time intervals between. This alwavs occurs when a condenser of considerable capacity is charged by means of a comparatively small machine. If the rates of supply and dissipation are not widely different, then the rushes of current will be in quicker succession, and this the more, the more nearly equal both the rates are, until limitations incident to eacli case and depending upon a number of causes are reached. Thus we are able to obtain from a continuous-current generator as rapid a succession of discharges as we like. Of course, the higher the tension of the generator, the smaller need be the capacity of the condensers, and for this reason, principally, it is of advantage to employ a generator of very high tension. Besides, such a generator permits the attaining of greater rates of vibration."
Page 340 starts an article about resonance.

Wow, Your really the best reader i'ved ever had buddy. :D [size=78%] [/size]

but i think i have already tackleing this thousands of time a long time ago already. am i correct ?
not as detailed as this one but very easy to grasp in my way.

bye buddy take care. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 15, 2012, 12:35:40 AM

Ok Pizza, Tito, Teets, Tits(someone said that once ;]) Oracian, Otits, and matrix.

Thanks. ;)

Just in the last part of winding my transformer. took a break. Winding by hand and jig.

I used a core and bobbin from a UPS power supply and soaked it in laquer thinner for 2 days and separated the core and removed the old windings from the factory bobbin. There were 2 flat windings in there. ;]

Anyways, the secondary, wound on bobbin first, is 35 turns of .025 wire, 1 layer.

The trifi input and shorted bifi is going to be about 6 layers of 3x .015. About 29 individual turns per layer of the bifi and 15 turns each layer for the input(kicker winding, wound along side of the bifi turns.

Will have pics tomorrow, of the sec and the primary tri. ;]

Then figure out what freq she wants to run at.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 15, 2012, 01:07:55 AM

ok, goin for 8 layers. Thought 6 would be near full, but looks good for 8. It all has to fit inside the E ferrite core to put it all together.Its going nice and neat.

If this winding doesnt work out, will go finer wire on the trifi next time. The freq may be really high due to low capacitance of only so many turns side by side. But inductance will be higher than an air core, so, we will see.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 15, 2012, 02:22:20 AM

Looks like 10 layers will fit. ;]

Look at Titos pic below, imagine the input, top side of transformer, secondary 220vac side, has a shorted bifi included and the input wires are the 3rd strand of the trifi.

This in a standard transformer can be many turns. Here times 3 strands. :o

So the relay charges the input then releases, and the field collapse is the kick. ;) Coil replaces spark gap. ;D

Now, with a standard transformer, imagine this circuit working without a working resonance. :'(

And the resistor with the diode trickles (resistor) back to the battery through the input leads, and the 24v output can also charge batteries and run an inverter? Has to be a special transformer if true.

Plus there is the suggestion that Romero has used shorted bifi in his muller coils.

If so, then why not what im building? :o :o :o Hope.

Thanks Titos for 2 years of happy sad happy sad and then mostly happy. Whether it works or not. ;) Really.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 15, 2012, 04:45:03 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 15, 2012, 02:22:20 AM
Looks like 10 layers will fit. ;]

Look at Titos pic below, imagine the input, top side of transformer, secondary 220vac side, has a shorted bifi included and the input wires are the 3rd strand of the trifi.

This in a standard transformer can be many turns. Here times 3 strands. :o

So the relay charges the input then releases, and the field collapse is the kick. ;) Coil replaces spark gap. ;D

Now, with a standard transformer, imagine this circuit working without a working resonance. :'(

And the resistor with the diode trickles (resistor) back to the battery through the input leads, and the 24v output can also charge batteries and run an inverter? Has to be a special transformer if true.

Plus there is the suggestion that Romero has used shorted bifi in his muller coils.

If so, then why not what im building? :o :o :o Hope.

Thanks Titos for 2 years of happy sad happy sad and then mostly happy. Whether it works or not. ;) Really.

Mags

yes is good to have pizza with 3 indegrients. trifillar pizza ;D i would replace batteries with bank of caps why ? because you have to take it very carefully from start with capacitors then with batteries
anyway,recall Richard Willis first attempts ? dead battery in armored metal box :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 15, 2012, 04:54:30 AM

I have one bad feeling. Ferrite ! I see Tito used iron core transformer, but looking on another thread ::) here ferrite may cause bad radiation depending of ingredients and frequency. I'd love to use them because I have collected few yoke cores from old monitors. :-\ :-\

Teeets , help us here ??? Also a way to convert kick into current via resistor is pure magic, seems that carbon blocl or just a big pencil is better then those crappy resistors from shop >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 15, 2012, 01:04:41 PM

Hey Forest

Im going with the ferrite here just for low power testing. From what I know, E cores have less saturation compared to a bobbin ferrite and toroid cores, of which we can consider the monitor yolk as a bobbin. The toroid cores have low emi wound as a toroid, but not wound as a bobbin, in Stiveps case it is wound as both.

Its the emi that may be causing the headaches. ;]

I dont expect to go much above 50khz, such as freq in the areas used in switching power supplies.. Hopefully above 20khz, audio freq. but will be fine with below 20k if it works. Im hoping for lower than 50k as I have many more turns than what was on the core originally. Hope

I dont know what the capacitance is yet of the bifi, will know after work after I terminate the windings to the posts. Was up past 3am, had to sleep. I also dont know if I measure capacitance and inductance, if or how shorting the ends of the series bifi will affect these parameters and the freq of oscillation. So calculation might falter as compared to reality.

Be back later with the pics of the windings. Nothing exciting. :o ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 15, 2012, 01:14:58 PM

Yet another tip: an excerpt from R Colloway answer to J Bedini challenge at www.keelynet.com/evgray/powrtube.htm (http://www.keelynet.com/evgray/powrtube.htm) : "...If you place a arc gap at S1, a increase in voltage occurs. If you collect S1 in a capacitor and time it to discharge into ANOTHER battery via a arc gap (getting it out of the loop) the potential is multiplied."

I'm just following Ismael Aviso, which I consider a successful guy in this theme. These sites appear in his videos.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 15, 2012, 10:22:55 PM

Here are a couple pics of the transformer.

The first shows the single layer secondary output.

The next 2 show the trifi primary, ends are not terminated yet. Doin it now. And with the core.

See, nothing special. Looks normal. But is it? :o ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 15, 2012, 11:18:56 PM

:-X The Tito Code ;D

Who will break the Tito code
To power a resistive load?
Will Mags with trifi be the one
To make this strange new setup run?

Nothing special, normal looks
But maybe this one really cooks.
Time will tell its secret tale
Begun with Tito's cookie trail.

Hours of thinking, reading, zapping,
Wire-buying, wrapping, mapping.
The kick, the kiss, what did we miss?
And now it's all come down to this...

Ride on Sir Mags, and break the code!
Remember those who with you rode!
And as you fight this noble fight,
We too will strive toward the light.

Who will break the Tito code
To power a resistive load?
With time its secret shroud will fail
Revealing Tito's holy grail.

To be continued... :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 15, 2012, 11:37:58 PM

Nice Bob.. Your good. Just rolls off like a song. ;]

I usually like to lay out what Im going to do, before I do it, when there is a plan that seems good, unusual, and fresh. This way the word is out before the balls are on the table. ;]

Was up late last night. Gota get some sleep here soon.

Thanks for that Bob. Im sure everyone will like it. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on February 15, 2012, 11:38:44 PM

WOW, you rock Bob !!! ;D 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 16, 2012, 11:00:16 PM

Ok, some measurements.

the 35 turn secondary is .11 ohm

Each of the primary windings are 1.37 1.39 and 1.40 ohm

Capacitance measured between primary windings is 2.2nf, between any of the 3 as they were wound together.

The difference in the primary ohms may just be lead connections with the meter leads, as they should all be very close in length being wound at the same time. During the 8th layer, some of the turns dug into the 7th layer. Maybe 7 wasnt as tight as it should be, maybe the bobbin expanded a bit from the layers of wire pushing outwards at the end. But the winding neatness was just a bit bumpy after layer 10.

So there could have been a chance that one of the wires is a bit longer than another by the time 10 layers were finished.

Measuring the capacitance the bifi was odd. Working with just 2 windings, and one of the meters probes connected to one winding, and the other probe to the other winding.

If the probes are on the ends of the bifi at the beginning of the winding, the meter reads 0.0nf .

But if you move one of the leads to the other end of the same winding it was connected to, I get 2.2nf. I tried it with all 3 windings and it was consistent.

And for giggles the primary to secondary capacitance is .2nf.

Meter used Wavetek 2030

Inductance meter is on its way.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on February 17, 2012, 12:24:10 AM

I think Bob's poem inspired me. Time to get out of the deep depression I've been in for a very long time! I'm clearing off the work bench (junk collector) and finish what I started almost 2 years ago. Mags, I don't want to deter you from what you are doing. I'll wait to tell, till your done building and testing your current vision. 8)
Thanks guys ;) ;D <-- ME HAPPY

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 17, 2012, 12:32:40 AM

Hey Tech

No Problem. Show your project. The more the better. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on February 17, 2012, 01:02:37 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 17, 2012, 12:32:40 AM
Hey Tech

No Problem. Show your project. The more the better. ;]

Mags

not now I'm in cleaning mode :P BFN ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: one_christian_warrior on February 17, 2012, 01:12:53 AM

how about energy multiplucation
where you have two equal voltage motors
one is DC for input
which has a large pulley attached to it
the second motor is AC
on a much smaller pulley
this way your driver motor only turns a few times
while your output motor spins hundreds of times
you get a multiple of power out
compared to the power you put in
you run your output motor, (or multiple motors)
through a full wave bridge rectifier and voltage regulator
I proved this works
with my electric wheelchair
gaining 20 feet more distance up a steep hill
every time I drove up the hill fast
and then drove back down the hill slow
(I had to set my chair to max torq=1st gear and max speed=10th gear)
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ (http://free-energy.yolasite.com/)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 17, 2012, 01:06:58 PM

Tito method is easier, in fact one of the most easy way. I have only one problem, how to charge capacitor from back EMF. Usually back EMF or collapsing magnetic field spike (which is probably wrong definition) is higher voltage then applied EM force. We need a way to slow it down or decompress to lower voltage. Maybe big piece of graphite or carbon like Edwin Gray was doing ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: garrypm on February 17, 2012, 02:02:17 PM

@Forest,

the answer is a capacitor

Garry

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: spikeyvoltage on February 17, 2012, 06:59:27 PM

Quote from: forest on February 17, 2012, 01:06:58 PM
Tito method is easier, in fact one of the most easy way. I have only one problem, how to charge capacitor from back EMF. Usually back EMF or collapsing magnetic field spike (which is probably wrong definition) is higher voltage then applied EM force. We need a way to slow it down or decompress to lower voltage. Maybe big piece of graphite or carbon like Edwin Gray was doing ???

Your theory is erroneous.

Does not matter in the least how giant those spikes are, whether it be 20 volt or 2000 volt, without current they are useless. You will be waiting until the end of time to charge a battery on 'radiant' spike if there is next to no current behind it.

Dont believe me? I dont care. Conduct the experiments yourself. Bedini is a liar who sells big expensive motors and battery rechargers and Tito is fooling with all of you. Bedini machines all output current and voltage spike so dont for a moment believe all this nonsense that people have regurgitated over the years "what we must find is the stanley myer 'situation' where there is no current but magical spike and then the angels will sing and water will fall apart". LMAO

YES, spike makes charging battery much more 'efficient' (and desulfates) but do not believe for a moment that you can somehow take out of one battery a certain amount of energy and make this energy more expansive into another 4 batteries. Build the devices (and every other variant) and you will see that in order to charge a battery you ALWAYS need current. It is so simple to perform a child can do it. Measure the current going out and measure the current coming back and you will see that it is always less.

Is this a good method to 'conserve' energy? Yes. Sure we can attach a light bulb directly to a battery and then kill it. OR, we can make the bulb part of the circuit and charge another battery (which is what bedini copied in Tesla works). HOWEVER, what do you think is happening with every turn of wire on a coil, every inch of wire within the circuit, every time a light bulb turns on within that circuit??? Answer = LOSSES. The field whether it be magnetic, thermal or 'other' is bleeding everywhere.

Kapanadze which is a Tesla ripoff does the same thing. There is no 'amplification' of current, only amplifying of voltage in order to make a more efficient INVERTER. The efficiency jumps up to around 98% because of the structure of the circuit (conserving and recycling) but there is NO OU. Wesley and the other buffoons screamed "OU OU" months ago whilst holding dimly lit 100 watt bulbs. Now they see that it is not OU, only foolishness. A cheap inverter from radio shack is more efficient than their current setup.

Look at all the Kapanadze videos. 90% of them he runs from mains. The others he has a battery inside a box that slowly runs down. NONE or his demos ever run for an extended period of time. Do I say this because I dont understand it? NO. Quite the opposite. Once you understand how this works and conduct the appropriate experiments, there is no more illusion or wonder, only a educating of yourself. Magnacoaster??? LOL!! Tito uses examples like this as free energy?? It is laughable and shows how much he misleads himself and all of you. If anyone thinks Magnacoaster is OU they are a fool. The guy is a known fraud who is taking money from internet folk and is yet to deliver not even one device. Have a look at his videos...YES there again he is recycling and conserving energy but it is NEVER more than COP 1.0. He has HUGE capacitance battery that would take days to run down and yet ALL of his demos and energy tests have never exceeded 4 hours. Did the battery have more when he finished the test?? It certainly should if he is more than cop 1.0 right!! But no,,,every result is the same with some silly statement like "see, only 200Ma less in the battery" and a incorrect summation of how to calculate power.

Ismael Aviso? Again, conservation of energy yes, however MASSIVE battery banks that show less in them after running for a couple hours.

Orbo? Millions of dollars funding and not one single replication showing a self running device. All correctly evelauated tests have fallen flat. They are terribly quiet lately.

Broli is 100% correct when he pointed out Tito's lies and madness but you all chose to ignore the evidence because you first do not understand the essence of Tesla's most basic experiments.

Not one single time did Tesla have a self running device and yet Tito misquotes him and you believe this fool outright. Where did Tesla ever have a OU device or patent? I have read all his patents and I encourage you to do the same. Once you understand what is happening you will see that tesla was all about efficiency and NOT OU. Why do you think every one of his patents lists a source of power generation (always a generator or alternator or similar). He always plugged into the towns power supply or some other method. The Pierce Arrow had big banks of batteries and RECYCLED 98% of the energy. However, people spin stories about antennas on the vehicle and some nonsense about sucking power from the air.

Yes Telsa was a great mind. Fantastic invention. His tower was all about BROADCASTING energy and making it cheaper (or free) to the people. But was there an excess? NO.

Anyway, believe what you want to believe.

All energy is the same and behaves under the same universal pricinples. When you shout into a canyon and hear the echo, this is resonance and a 'reflection' of decaying energy (sound and resonance in play). However does your voice come back to you louder than the original shout? Does it keep hollaring back at you and then 5 minutes later still be going?? LMAO...The world would be a noisy place if this was the case!! Hahaha. I have circuits that I designed which run for 20 minutes on only 6 volts and 8Ma stored in a tiny capacitor. The energy 'echoes' and reverberates around and around in a recyling fashion. But output??? NEVER any more output than input for the reasons stated before = LOSSES.

Have a nice day.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 17, 2012, 07:36:17 PM

Quote from: spikeyvoltage on February 17, 2012, 06:59:27 PM
The Pierce Arrow had big banks of batteries and RECYCLED 98% of the energy. However, people spin stories about antennas on the vehicle and some nonsense about sucking power from the air.

Show me where you got that information.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on February 17, 2012, 09:14:04 PM

Quote from: spikeyvoltage on February 17, 2012, 06:59:27 PM

Does not matter in the least how giant those spikes are, whether it be 20 volt or 2000 volt, without current they are useless. You will be waiting until the end of time to charge a battery on 'radiant' spike if there is next to no current behind it.

I agree... but if voltage goes across a resistance it has current? [contrary to the idea that the whole thing is about voltage and current should be limited, since the presure wave advances from the actual flow, so 0 current is ever attained] so sustained high voltage spike chains will be current...maybe the can be put across a load and become a current? how close do they have to be? Tesla was also about chains of shuttle circuits (OSC)... they would all participate in the resonance... seems like a hassle to have to design everything self harmonizing to external spikes

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: spikeyvoltage on February 17, 2012, 09:57:31 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 17, 2012, 07:36:17 PM
Show me where you got that information.

Mags

My darling Maggie

If I show you the patent will you truly believe? The truth that you seek has been right in front of your eyes all along. Whether you decide to swallow the blue pill and go back to delusion land where people believe Tesla flew his stove across the country for secret night journeys is up to you.

No person can convince another...go work for it if its truly what you want.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 17, 2012, 10:01:29 PM

Quote from: spikeyvoltage on February 17, 2012, 09:57:31 PM
My darling Maggie

If I show you the patent will you truly believe? The truth that you seek has been right in front of your eyes all along. Whether you decide to swallow the blue pill and go back to delusion land where people believe Tesla flew his stove across the country for secret night journeys is up to you.

No person can convince another...go work for it if its truly what you want.

Show me the Patent? Patent? Patent that shows that Teslas Peirce Arrow had a bank of batteries?

Show it.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 17, 2012, 10:37:20 PM

ok, Spikey is a pop n drop. Pops in, drops his load of crap(speculation and no substance)

No worries, why would anyone follow someone who keeps saying that they are dropping their ass on the floor every time they laugh. "LMAO" Dont believe it. ;]

And, you can leave the Maggie on the floor with your ass. ;]

Anyways back to business.

Following Titos warnings, Im going to start off with low power to the input at first.

How? Well we have a couple ways described in the past posts. Either we charge the primary with DC till the magnetic field is to desired level then release. Or cap discharge.
I am going with the switched DC at first. Single charges at first and monitor the secondary. If nothing comes of it, then move on to cap discharge.

Ill use the Sidac Ive shown before as spark gap alternative, and also lower voltages, 120v and 240v, and also multiples in series to increase the breakover voltage.

Im going to try a few things tonight, and tomorrow. and see what we can see. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 17, 2012, 11:23:40 PM

Atta boy, Mags!
I'm rootin' for ya in this corner.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 17, 2012, 11:38:02 PM

Thanks Bob. We will get there. ;]

Mags 1 - Spikey 0

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: spikeyvoltage on February 18, 2012, 02:07:21 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 17, 2012, 11:38:02 PM
Thanks Bob. We will get there. ;]

Mags 1 - Spikey 0

Mags

LOL

By all means maggie....its gonna be fun watching the blind dither around for another 3 years before you figure out you have been following a fool.

Cant wait to see the fallout. They say you can't help the stupid.

As you were

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 18, 2012, 08:27:44 AM

Still here Spikes? No patent? I wont accept hep?

Mags 2 - Spikey 0

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 18, 2012, 12:46:29 PM

Oh boy ::)
spikeyvoltage (http://www.overunity.com/../../../../../../profile/spikeyvoltage.40031/) why are you doing this ? Maybe you think that I'm going to test something I didn't thought about but just have heard lately ? Not at all. I thought about it for years and now I'm quite sure it will work , the only problem is to "decompress" back spikes into current of lower voltage. Because as Tito said you should avoid situation when energy skyrocket and damage batteries or capacitor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 19, 2012, 12:17:49 AM

Quote from: spikeyvoltage on February 17, 2012, 06:59:27 PM
...
Ismael Aviso?
...

Yes, Ismael Aviso. He went (successfully) through a government authorized test. Do you really think a government so easy can sell its reputation?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 19, 2012, 01:44:07 PM

Ok, have a correction to make. When I posted the capacitance measurements, due to a wiring order mishap :o , my saying that the capacitance measurement was different depending on which end of the coil probed, was wrong. Ive been testing this thing with the 2 coils in parallel, not series. Like Rick Perry said, oops. :o

Back at it. Between ends of the series bifi terminal connections, ive set a gap that is adjustable, just in case.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 19, 2012, 05:57:52 PM

Hey Tito cmon back, Stephen knows we love ya bro. ;D
Tell me about the shorted coil ;)

There's always someone complaining about something

be happy
dont worry

listen real close I'll tell you a little story
:P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 19, 2012, 06:36:08 PM

Be Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
dont worry
be happy
;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 20, 2012, 12:43:43 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on February 19, 2012, 06:36:08 PM
Be Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
dont worry
be happy
;D ;D ;D

Yes, thats the key word, Freeee. ;]

My first setup tonight will use a rotor to activate a reed for switching with an input of 5v and a series resistor. The resistor will be changed for lower values to increase input and voltage increases as I go.
As I increase power with this method, if nothing comes of it, then I will go to cap discharge, and also use the resistor limiting here also, just for Pizza Sake.

Cant wait, back to worky, am at lunch.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 20, 2012, 09:00:49 PM

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I just drop bye to share what i feel currently cause i'm soooooo very lonely, cause we just buried my mother yesterday and i believe and really sure that she is with the Lord now happy with my father. :)

Thank you to all my friends there and have a healthy day. :)

This is all i can say "Free energy is Real" just dig and study and analyze it. ;)

bye :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 20, 2012, 09:23:13 PM

Really sorry to hear that Tito.
Be safe.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 21, 2012, 01:31:07 AM

Tito, don't worry: All Mothers Go To Heaven. I've buried mine four years ago. And I pray for all Mothers. For your too; I'm a Catholic, like you are.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 21, 2012, 01:40:28 AM

Tito

I'm sad too, my friend. :-X

forest

for you

"Let us hurry to love people they depart so quickly
the shoes remain empty and the phone rings on
whatâ€™s unimportant drags on like a cow
the meaningful sudden takes us by surprise
the silence that follows so normal itâ€™s unbearable
like chastity born most simply from despair
when we think of someone whoâ€™s been taken from us.

Donâ€™t be sure you have time for thereâ€™s no assurance
as all good fortune security deadens the senses
it comes simultaneously like pathos and humor
like two passions not as strong as one
they leave fast grow silent like a thrush in July
like a sound somewhat clumsy or a polite bow
to truly see they close their eyes
though to be born is more of risk than to die
we love still too little and always too late.

Donâ€™t write of it too often but write once and for all
and youâ€™ll become like dolphin both gentle and strong.

Let us hurry to love people they depart so quickly
and the ones who donâ€™t leave wonâ€™t always return
and you never know while speaking of love
if the first one is last or the last one first."

â€" Jan Twardowski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Twardowski), Polish poet (1915-2006)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on February 21, 2012, 02:34:29 AM

Tito, I'm sorry to here about the loss of your mother. I will keep both of you in my prayers. God bless, John

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 21, 2012, 05:46:03 AM

Very sorry to hear of your lose, I lost both my parents two years ago they passed a month apart.
My mother just didnt have the will to go on after my father passed.
Its very hard, but the Lord showed me they were in Heaven, that helped my heart.
May the Lord give you and your family peace that surpasses all understanding.
dave

Press on Christian Warrior

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 21, 2012, 09:27:42 AM

Sir Tito,
Condolences to you and your family, i know that she's with GOD right now...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 21, 2012, 12:09:58 PM

My heart goes out to you as well, Tito. You and your family are in my prayers.

"Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted."
May God's comfort fill your heart and the hearts of all who mourn with you.

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 21, 2012, 01:22:03 PM

Tito has lots of good friends. ;]

I did some stuff last night, and low power, 5v with resistors had shown little if any output, 200mv at best, at low freq pulse.
Got rid of the resistor and added a large inductor and a diode in series with the battery to have an igniter circuit to raise the voltage of a cap for discharge. The output is still nill. My probescope shows a very high freq ring that is short lived.

So then I removed the short on the series bifi and used a .1uf 250v cap there instead. Now we have sound!. The transformer pops err clicks when pulsed with straight 5v with parallel cap for oomph. With just hand speed on rotor switching reed, and getting over 5v out(remember it is a step down transformer winding) and the ring is much better. Did these last tests at lunch here today. Will check the freq and such tonight. The outer green winding(primary) didnt even get warm and it is 1.1ohm with 5v in. Probably the other 2 bifi windings absorb heat from the primary winding. Will see with longer runs.

Next is to get the input to pulse at the freq of the ring and see what happens.

Thanks Tito for your tips and hanging around as long as you did. Prayin for ya. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 22, 2012, 12:38:30 AM

Measuring the freq, it seems to be near 700hz from what my dvm sees. It might be wrong. My scope basically shows the same wave form with fast and low speeds of switching. From a quick calculation of the scope reading, the scope is set to .1ms, looks like around 40khz.

With 16 magnets on the rotor it will take about 3000rpms to hit that 700hz freq with the rotor/reed, let alone 40k. So its time to setup the 555 timer and mosfet circuit I used for my solid state Orbo to drive this thing. Would be interesting if this thing works.

I connected a small 12v light bulb to the output and it lights to about half way at these low switching speeds. And removing the .1uf cap from the bifi lowers the output to about half. ;]

The scope is set for .1ms time base 10v range.

Measured AC on the .1uf/bifi was 34vac max

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 22, 2012, 05:08:55 AM

keep it up Mags! and nice primitive scope u got there... :o just kidding... ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 23, 2012, 07:53:56 AM

Mags have you tried a diode across the shorted coil.

I was thinking about Boyd Bushman and his experiment where he mashed the opposing fields of a magnet together and did the drop experiment, has anyone tried doing this with a muller setup, the magnets with the holes in the center could be bolted together with opposing fields, not sure how long the magnets would last but you never know.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 23, 2012, 10:08:26 AM

Also is your magnetic path closed, in other words are you using a toroid, or some other closed magnetic path.
Lets look at the shorted coil on a toroid and a solenoid
Look at Leedskalnin's pmh it has a closed path magnetic field, as long as the magnetic field is not broken the electric field orbits the coils but as soon as the path is broken(solenoid configuration) the electric field callapses into the coils.
You want a standing electric field this brings the aether to your device sets it in motion and charges the field, then you have a standing field to draw from, if you want alot of water you go to a pond you dont set a bucket in the rain.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 23, 2012, 10:23:25 AM

This is why realizing the electric field is there is so important, it is the field that transfers energy in a transformer and it brings to realization that energy can be transfered without breaking the magnetic field.
If we look at an EI core transformer with the coils wound on the center leg we can see the electric field is inside the magnetic field, this is a closed system and very effecient at transfering energy from one voltage-amp relationship to another but no gain because it is closed.
But with a toroid the electric field is on the outside of the toroid, open system, ok we have an open system, just winding open path coils we get an electric field that pulses (rises and falls) but if we add a shorted coil it cannot fall it sustains a field, then we can draw from that field(our pond)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 23, 2012, 12:36:35 PM

Hey Dave

Thanks for the input. I am using an E core for this transformer.

Tito once talked about coils perpendicular to each other. Would this have anything to do with the electric fields effect between the coils?

Really, I dont know if this this is going to work till I try try try. Im putting together a 556 timer circuit where one of the timers in the chip is freq and the other will be a one shot with adjustable duty cycle. Need to be around 40khz. And the one shot needs to be a much faster pulse(on time) than 1 cycle at 40khz.

Hopefully we see something. Due to possible drift of the circuitry, I want to figure a way to trigger the one shot from the natural freq of resonance of the bifi oscillation. Some sort of peek detector.

Tito had mentioned zener diodes. Once he said at least 3v zener. But I dont see what or where to use it. One direction the zener conducts at less than 1 volt and the other direction at 3v. Hadnt figured a use for that yet.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 23, 2012, 01:53:24 PM

One usage of zener could be this : put it between a battery bank and large electrolytic capacitor. Then if you have magic Tito circuit and capacitor is overcharged 3V above the voltage of baterry bank (which is the source of power filling capacitor and all losses compensations while circuit is working for example out of the best condition of without feedback from the output stage) then capacitor excess energy is discharged to battery which stays happy charged . One Tito tip is exactly describing such effect in my humble opinion. I tested something like that with JT charging one capacior connected via zener diode to the other and it works (but would work much better with capacitor + battery configuration)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 23, 2012, 08:30:08 PM

There's a patent on a crystal radio that powered itself and the only prerequisite to make the device work was that the coils be perpendicular to each other. I mapped the electric field around the solenoid coils this is what it looked like, in the radio he had only two coils but I carried it a little farther to get the point across and to help me visualize it.
I make these images to help me learn, and a picture is worth a thousand words.

Something else that is of interest is the way these magnetic forks in an alternator loop around and bring the magnetic field into the plane of the electric field, Im sure this would boost both fields.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 23, 2012, 08:42:44 PM

The electronics are important but so are the coils and their relationship to each other, it will take both to get free energy.
Iv studied a lot of devices and the only free energy I see is in the self standing fields of the pmh, once charged it maintains it own fields, I see nothing else that does this.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 23, 2012, 09:04:37 PM

Hey Dave

So lets say in a normal transformer, these electrical fields are how power is transferred from primary to secondary? And if so, how do we take advantage of this, as a normal transformer we always lose. ;] Designed that way? ;]

Also are there any examples of the perpendicular coils other than the crystal radio?
And, are you saying that since the armature windings and the field windings of an alternator are perpendicular to each other, that the alternator is an example?

Thanks ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 23, 2012, 09:07:54 PM

PMH? ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 24, 2012, 08:14:23 AM

The PMH was a learning tool developed by Ed Leedskalnin, but it is so much more,
This guy has done alot of work on the pmh
www.youtube.com/user/codygillespie/videos
Notice in vid 5 he cant find the capacitance in the coils, thats because its stored in the electric field and not the coils.
Once this coil-core configuration is charged the fields are self sustaining and as long as the magnetic field is not broken the electric field will orbit the coils, so if we wind this on a toroid charge it up then we have a rotating electric field that will self sustain itself (we have our pond) any energy drained from this electric field will be replenished by the aether because the magnetic field has not been broken.

Say we build this then wind opposite wound coils on top of the pmh coils and pulse a weak voltage through them, we will then get the kick that SM talks about,
Im sure there are frequencys to find, but say we charge this up with high voltage then there is a huge field orbiting the coils, then we pulse a week signal of say 5 volts through our coils, The kickback will be huge compared to just collecting the kickback from our original 5 volts, there is the FE.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 24, 2012, 08:30:35 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHkcJ0rCIXQ&feature=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHkcJ0rCIXQ&feature=channel)
This guy is just using one coil but the effect is still there,
There are countless theory's, but the simple fact is there is and electric field that stores the energy and this field can be tapped into.
The electric field theory puts everything in focus, there is no "other dimension" or quantum effects that cant be understood mumbo jumbo, it can be understood when we realize the fields are there.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 24, 2012, 08:54:07 AM

There's more to it, coils are bidirectional because the electric field is bidirectional, watch this vid and notice the coil vibrates in two directions from the center out, this is the electric field that orbits outside the coil perpendicular to the magnetic field that causes this.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bZfwQAAMk0

This is one reason our transformers heat up and have loses

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Flux It on February 24, 2012, 08:56:29 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on February 23, 2012, 08:30:08 PM
There's a patent on a crystal radio that powered itself and the only prerequisite to make the device work was that the coils be perpendicular to each other. I mapped the electric field around the solenoid coils this is what it looked like, in the radio he had only two coils but I carried it a little farther to get the point across and to help me visualize it.
I make these images to help me learn, and a picture is worth a thousand words.

Something else that is of interest is the way these magnetic forks in an alternator loop around and bring the magnetic field into the plane of the electric field, Im sure this would boost both fields.

I have not seen that patent but is my understanding the coils were placed that way so as not to affect each other. The fields are actually much smaller and do not extent that far out. Was the patent from Henry Ford?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 24, 2012, 09:47:38 AM

Walter Fordï¿½s High-powered Crystal Set
In the 1961 edition of the Electronics Experimenterï¿½s Handbook, there is an interesting circuit from Walter B. Ford for a high-power crystal set capable of powering a 2.5-inch loudspeaker:

He says: Hereï¿½s a pint-sized crystal radio with enough power to drive a 2.5ï¿½ speaker. This little unit's selectivity is far better than you would expect to find in a crystal reï¿½ceiver and volume is equal to that obtained with sets using a transistor. No external power source is required.

The unusual selectivity of this radio is due to its special double-tuned circuit. A pair of diodes connected as a voltage-doubler provides the extra power to operate the small speaker. An output jack is provided for headphone listening and for connecting the set to an amplifier.

Construction: The model was built on a 2.5ï¿½ x 4.5" wooden chassis with a 3.5" x 4.5ï¿½ metal front panel. However, size is not critical, and other materials can be substiï¿½tuted if desired.

Two standard ferrite loopsticks, L2 and L3, are used. Both must be modified by the addition of a second winding. L1 and L4, respectively. Each of the added windings consists of 22 turns of No. 24 cotton-covered wire wound on a small cardboard tube as shown in the picture. (Actually, any wire size from No. 22 to No. 28 with cotton or enamel insulation will do the job).

The diameter of the cardboard tube should be slightly larger than L2 and L3 so that L1 and L4 will slip overL2 and L3 easily.

Resistor R1 is used only for feeding the set into an amplifier; it should be omitted for both earphone and loudspeaker operaï¿½tion. Trimmer capacitor C2 should be solï¿½dered across the stator terminals of two-gang variable capacitor C1a/C1b as shown. The speaker and output transformer can be mounted wherever convenient.

If a metal chassis is used, then be sure to insulate the aerial and earth connection sockets from the chassis. When all of the parts have been mounted on the chassis, wire them together followï¿½ing the schematic and pictorial diagrams. Be sure that diodes D1 and D2 and capaciï¿½tors C3 and C4 are connected correctly, paying attention to their polarity.

While this is interesting, what appears to be a key factor is contained in the drawings, where he states that the only important thing is that it is essential for the two sets of coils to be mounted perpendicular to each other:

Yes it was by Ford
I think the electric field from one coil is in the magnetic plane of the other and the same for the other coil, I would think this is where the energy is coming from to power the device.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 24, 2012, 09:58:27 AM

In the typical transformer pic, I think winding another winding on the other side of the primary would be a step in the right direction.
the added secondary would need to be wound opposite the secondary already there, the electric field has two sides one cw and the other ccw.
Winding the primary bifilar like the JT would be a good idea as well.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Flux It on February 24, 2012, 10:11:20 AM

Well at least I got the last name correct ;D

I read up on this a few weeks ago. My take is the perpendicular coils are such to reduce RF interference. The reason it powers itself is because it is a crystal radio receiver. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio)

The only difference is the larger speaker that was used by adding a voltage doubler to match the impedance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 24, 2012, 10:18:14 AM

Quote from: Flux It on February 24, 2012, 10:11:20 AM
Well at least I got the last name correct ;D

I read up on this a few weeks ago. My take is the perpendicular coils are such to reduce RF interference. The reason it powers itself is because it is a crystal radio receiver. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio)

The only difference is the larger speaker that was used by adding a voltage doubler to match the impedance.

Yea Im not sure about this I just thought it was interesting so I mapped the field.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 24, 2012, 11:19:46 AM

Quote from: Flux It on February 24, 2012, 10:11:20 AM
Well at least I got the last name correct ;D

I read up on this a few weeks ago. My take is the perpendicular coils are such to reduce RF interference. The reason it powers itself is because it is a crystal radio receiver. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio)

The only difference is the larger speaker that was used by adding a voltage doubler to match the impedance.

This would decrease rf interference because it would pull the electric field which is in the rf range into the magnetic field of the other coil, this would contain the fields from both the coils so this makes sense.
Thanks
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 24, 2012, 01:02:35 PM

Very interesting stuff Dave. ;]

Im interested, but still dont get the how of it. Like having an understanding as to design or use such a configuration.

Like if we have a toroid, do we need 2 coils, one wound in one direction and the other in the opposite direction?

Or, is it 1 coil, like the one coil guy ;] , but how do we extract from it, and what do we expect to get from it compared to a conventional transformer?

From what Ive read of your posts here, maybe its like this....

Maybe

We use big power to energize the field, remove the input, now the field is perpetual. The when we influence the field with kicks, more energy can be extracted than what was spent in kicks, while still, the initial perpetuating field remains while kicking and extracting.

It would seem that we could use a toroid core, cut it into pieces and insert(glue) neo mags between cor pieces to create a simulated magnetically energized core with a coil wound on it, and then we just kick it and extract.

"then we just kick it" sounds easy.

I wonder if a neo ring could be made that way? It would be inconvenient to wind it and flash it with big power then unwind commercially. They are probably not made. No use for them. ;) :o :o ;) But maybe if you wind the neo ring(toroid) how might the coil engage with the field within the core, unless some of the field escapes the neo ring surface. Might have to charge the coil anyway just to get it to engage the field inside the core. lol, ok back to the grind, lunch is over.

Ok, thanks for the input again. Nitty gritty. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 24, 2012, 09:32:19 PM

Just reread what you wrote today Dave,

Lets say the one coil guy, puts another coil on the other side of the core.

We charge the first coil to get our permanent magnetic field. The we kick the other(additional) coil with 5v, but we get more emf from it when we disconnect the 5v kick?

While the setup is in this state of holding or perpetuating the fields, Any coil on the core will disrupt or collapse the permanent field if the additional coil is shorted or loaded? Or can the PF(perpetuated field)only be dissipated by shorting or loading the original charging coil?

And if any coil on the core can dissipate the field by shorting/loading, then how can we kick it and extract from it, without altering the field by dissipation or even maybe building upon it, altering it? Would we need the kicks polarity to be correct, as to not harm the PF? Yet still again, wont extraction destroy the PF?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 25, 2012, 01:48:34 AM

Magluvin this is simpler that you think. We want electric field not disturbed or in other terms no back EMF.
Look here http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/02002.png . Seems like Lockridge device,right ?
I may be wrong but it could be only because I'm having problems with memory and lost some school knowledge but anyway listen because it's important idea.
Magic is in OUR free will. Let's see on schematic and tell me what we can change without changing topology ?
Tips : What is the reason of back EMF ??!!! What is the rule to find magnetic field generated by flowing current ? Electrons are like small magnets ,correct ? Now are you ready to tell me what is the source of back EMF ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 25, 2012, 11:16:10 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 24, 2012, 09:32:19 PM
Just reread what you wrote today Dave,

Lets say the one coil guy, puts another coil on the other side of the core.

We charge the first coil to get our permanent magnetic field. The we kick the other(additional) coil with 5v, but we get more emf from it when we disconnect the 5v kick?
I think that would work, the frequency' would need to match or a lower harmonic, but doing it this way would allow you to wind both coils with the same mass.

While the setup is in this state of holding or perpetuating the fields, Any coil on the core will disrupt or collapse the permanent field if the additional coil is shorted or loaded? Or can the PF(perpetuated field)only be dissipated by shorting or loading the original charging coil?
I think it can only collapse if the magnetic field is broken like in the pmh, if true this gives us a standing field that can be drawn from. If we think about it when we pulse a coil it has to draw energy from the surrounding aether, but if we have a field already there it would seem we would get more bang for our buck because the standing field has already drawn the aether in.

And if any coil on the core can dissipate the field by shorting/loading, then how can we kick it and extract from it, without altering the field by dissipation or even maybe building upon it, altering it? Would we need the kicks polarity to be correct, as to not harm the PF? Yet still again, wont extraction destroy the PF?
I think it will create a siphon effect, I would think once the magnetic core has reached its natural saturation the magnetic field and the electric field will reach a level that is mutual then when bumped it will rise and fall and hopefully give us a big kick.
Mags I havent tried this but I think it can be understood and with reasoning can be accomplished, I see no other free self sustaining fields, besides a permanent magnet, a magnet could be used but by using windings we know the mass of our pmh coils and this should help find the right frequency's

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 25, 2012, 01:30:40 PM

I feel like we're at a log jam, and something has to break to get our understanding past this point of impasse.

Mags, I like your idea of a shorted bifi coil because it contains the L and C components and opens up the possibility of resonance within itself. My sense from reading Stiffler, Lee Tseung, Bearden and others is that resonance is required to create an imbalance in the aether, which the aether rushes in to fill, with cold electricity. Sir Tito of the Noble Order of Energetic Knights also mentioned at one point that he was using an Avramenko plug.

The way I understand the AV plug is that it provides for a one wire lead between the oscillating circuit to the load (in many cases LEDs or CFLs), and the LOAD becomes part of an antenna - a drawing-in point for the inrush of aetheric energy which manifests itself as cold electricity. I know this is the case in setups used by YT users Samertje, e.g.,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF9fl4_eMiY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF9fl4_eMiY&feature=related)
or Turgor58 e.g.,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-_YHgim1cU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-_YHgim1cU&feature=related)

But all that said, in light of the last couple of days' exchanges maybe there's something that we're talking all around but missing. So I'm going to think outside the box... I remember someone, I think it was GiantKiller, saying that there was an aetheric vortex either above or below the TPU. Does the center of the TPU perhaps meet the strongest part of the vortex, and is there a way to draw in energy from the aether there? Maybe the magnet speeds up the magnetic field's circulation in the TPU and allows the vortex to really rock and roll, making the center of the TPU the right location to tap into the vortex, something like what happens here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFCSXr6qnv4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFCSXr6qnv4)

:)
Have a good day.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 25, 2012, 04:29:26 PM

I agree Bob it seems just out of reach,
cold electricity has me puzzled, why doesnt a dynamo put out cold electricity, does capturing the electric field before it reaches the magnetic field create cold electricity, not sure.

My work is finally picking up I will be very busy for the next few weeks but that also means money for parts ;D
I would try this

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 25, 2012, 05:48:36 PM

From what Iv seen concerning cold electricity it hasnt much use except maybe to power the primary coil, it is high voltage with no amperage, as cool as it is its really not much use, cant power an inductive load just a resistive load.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 25, 2012, 05:58:59 PM

That Woopy he is fast turning out one vid after another, here is his latest,
for some reason this forum will not allow me to past, look at Woopy's last vid.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 25, 2012, 07:44:06 PM

Yea, I saw Woopys vid. Looks good. I need to look at the 3d drawing and draw it out to better understand it.

Thanks for the input guys.

I had seen Cody's vids before. From what I had figured, with a closed core toroid, that when the charging field is built, it sticks to the loop of the core due to the cores attraction and the fact that it is a loop. Like if the core were used in a push pull transformer, the primary fires 1 phase, then the primary is fired with opposite polarity, which would unlock the previously stuck field, getting stuck back and forth.

I believe that is why they use some E cores with a gap on the center peg. So for every primary input, the field doesnt get stuck. I have to look it up, I have a book around here with that info. Which one? lol Ill look. There was a reason for it.

But if we were to sustain the stuck field, all operations would need to be of a proper polarity as to not unstick the field. And do we want to build upon it, which is always a possibility up until saturation.

As for the zener diodes, I think Tito meant them for some part for his replacement of the spark gap. So it may only be a level trigger device to activate a transistor/mosfet for kickin. Its the 3v part that trips me up, since I believe he is using HV.

Its hard. No schematic, just vague partial parts lists, of more than one way to do, well, do anything. lol Eh so what. I really cant think of a better thing to do. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on February 26, 2012, 07:09:15 AM

Hi All

Please check out the circuit(s) in the kornelsons-free-energy-transformer http://www.overunity.com/12086/kornelsons-free-energy-transformer/new/#new (http://www.overunity.com/12086/kornelsons-free-energy-transformer/new/#new)

I think some of the principles discussed in this thread might apply, it seems like a very simple circuit that many here could test quickly to verify if it could work.

Edit: Attaching circuits so everyone can see them here in this thread.

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 26, 2012, 07:28:16 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHswoNpc0Tk

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 26, 2012, 06:41:17 PM

Quote from: Goat on February 26, 2012, 07:09:15 AM
Hi All

Please check out the circuit(s) in the kornelsons-free-energy-transformer http://www.overunity.com/12086/kornelsons-free-energy-transformer/new/#new (http://www.overunity.com/12086/kornelsons-free-energy-transformer/new/#new)

I think some of the principles discussed in this thread might apply, it seems like a very simple circuit that many here could test quickly to verify if it could work.

Edit: Attaching circuits so everyone can see them here in this thread.

Regards,
Paul

Hi Goat,
Thank you for sharing... Informative and very well explained...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on February 26, 2012, 10:45:02 PM

@ crazycut06

Thanks for your reply, the more I look at the second schematic the more I think there is no need for fancy electronic circuits or even the need for commutators!!!

If you look at the schematic it appears that the switches are the motor drive connections, I just can't see right now how the first motor would enable the second switch and so on to the last motor.

I'm going to sit back and think about this one awhile.

Edit: As a thought experiment I got rid of all the switches in the second schematic by attaching either pulleys and belts or even better a proper matched set of gear pulleys that matched motor1 to motor2 and so on to motor4 so that the switch is replaced by the timing of the gears (or pulleys) to make motor contact at the right timing.

Hope that makes sense.

Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 27, 2012, 09:44:09 AM

@ Goat
Im trying this circuit using coils not motors, maybe more easy for me with this setup.

Good day! Cc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Goat on February 27, 2012, 03:51:00 PM

@ crazycut06 & all

I've got 2 12 VDC motors that I can use for this experiment however I could use help in finding proper components for this setup.

From the component values listed in the first circuit diagram there are 2 capacitors listed, C1 is listed as 2 F/24V which I think would probably be the type used for car audio systems.

Is this component really necessary do you think?

The first circuit diagram mentions that "S1 switch rate to keep max 2-3v on C1" and "S2 switch rate to keep max 2-3v on C1, C2 max 50v". If we are to keep only 2-3v on C1 wouldn't a 50 VDC electrolytic cap be ok to use rather than a 2 F/24V capacitor or is there something special about the 2 F/24V capacitor that only this type would work?

Another problem I have when reading circuit and components is that rarely are the caps listed as types, so in this case C2 is listed as 450 ÂµF @ 100v but what type of capacitor is it, my guess is that it's an electrolytic cap but please correct me if I'm wrong.

Another thing is that the diodes are not listed, do you think I could use 1N4007 diodes or are there better ones for this purpose. I'm not sure how many amps this circuit will generate so I'm not sure which diode would be best to use here.

Any help in this matter would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 27, 2012, 07:07:25 PM

@ Goat, @ All,
Actually i don't know much theories, as im experimenting with it in actual, maybe we should ask someone who is more knowledgeable and more experience in this, Sir Tito, Sir Mags, Sir Forest,... ;D "Sir everyone" can help... hehehe ;) but then if you have the parts you can try....
Well imho, C1 should have large uf value to store lots of amps, then when it discharges to coil it will have lots of power going to the diode, and C2 should have a higher voltage rating...

Good day!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 29, 2012, 03:46:38 AM

Please read ! http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 29, 2012, 08:45:03 AM

Quote from: forest on February 29, 2012, 03:46:38 AM
Please read ! http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ (http://free-energy.yolasite.com/)

This "INVENTOR" publishes his or her "INVENTIONS" on this forum (maybe also somewhere else) since 2010. Here is his (her) profile: http://www.overunity.com/profile/one_christian_warrior.23953/ (http://www.overunity.com/profile/one_christian_warrior.23953/)

One thing is sure in these productions: this person likes to write. A lot. His (her) knowledge is rather not as much a lot....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 29, 2012, 11:21:25 PM

Hey Goat

I messed around with the circuit the other day and some tonight on circuit sim.

It has some strange attributes.

It seems the first inductor runs a loop with the load when switches are open, where the inductor becomes a current source to the load. And the second switch can send enough to the second cap to also boost the loop and send a bit back to the source.

I couldnt get it absolutely stable. Over time things change in a cycle. needs some fine tuning.

I found it more interesting to get rid of the load and use another inductor in series with a diode allowing current only back toward the source and first inductor loop.
Was getting over 1kw back to the source with around 600w taken. But this was happening during cycles that need fine tuned to stay in sync.

Following the values of caps and just saying large inductor leaves timing for the guessing as to the desired output.

I only did the 2 stage circuit, and it is a chore to try to tune. ;]

The 1F cap where it is seems unusual. I used many different values lower than that to get effects that seem possible towards something positive.

I will try some more later. Gota get back on track. Working on fine tuning the 555 circuit to drive the mosfet for the transformer input. Using just a cmos 555 with just a short on time near 40khz. Making arrangements for very fine tuning.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 03, 2012, 08:43:16 AM

Help !

I need Tito schematic picture with rotating wheel and two diodes. I thnk this is the only missing schematic I didn't saved being too slow....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 04, 2012, 02:53:56 PM

he he found it... my meory seems to be failing, not good :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: one_christian_warrior on March 09, 2012, 02:01:58 PM

[font=]Canadian Gift to the world[/font]

please,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,[/font][/size]
could I ask someone[/font][/size]
to build this simple item for me[/font][/size]
it is realitively easy to build[/font][/size]
(I happen to be disabled + unable to build this)[/font][/size]
and should be very cheap [/font][/size]
to reproduce in any scale, any voltage,[/font][/size]
I know that it seems to simple to work[/font][/size]
but I proved that it works with my experament[/font][/size]
it seems too stupidly simple to work[/font][/size]
but it does,,,,,,,,,,,,,,[/font][/size]
this is the Canadian Gift to the world[/font][/size]
please prove that it does not work[/font][/size]
I would prefere if it was proved before tommorrow even
there must be a way that the multiplication works
if you put power into a wheel turning very slowly
and then take power out of the motor(s)
that spin hundreds of times faster
Subject:[/font][/size] Free energy 4u2[/font][/size]
Please,,,[/font][/size]
Help me, help others, help themselves
we could start a new + improved industrial age
one that not only cauae little mess of pollution
like in the original industrial age brought with it
This one could actually help our environment
by producing costless to run air and water filters[/font][/size]
we could posibly have every back yard mechanic
coming out with very specialized adaptions
for this free energy box, cube, machine
I will be emailling this to all of our Canadian government
as well as to as many news services that I can
to help get this new technology out in our world fast
and start helping ourenvironment
believe me,,, I know how unbelievable this sounds
I had to repeat the experiment three times
to get a better understanding of how to believe what I was seeing
and then I even thought that I must have dreamed it
and had to repeat the exercise the three times again, about a week later
All I need is, for one person to take this serious
and to actually take the minimal time to build this contraption for me
I feel that this will take off like wildfire
as soon as the world gets a chance to take a look at this
THIS IS A FREE FOR ALL
Perpetual Motion machine
self generating electricity

Hello,
I feel both excited and extremely blessed, to be the one that gets to tell the world of this miraculous mechanism. This mechanism is an easy way of letting electricity generate itself, using time and the circumference difference of two pulleys. This means no fuel is needed to operate this, the only things used tomultiply electric power, is the differences in two circumferences and the time it operates. This means that no steady cost of fuel is needed, nor is there any pollution created by the process. That's right, I will tell you how anyone can get electricity to generate itself, without having to own nor having to be contained in an electric wheelchair,,, lol.
I say this because it was my electric wheelchair that helped me think of, and prove to myself that this idea really works. I was in a wheelchair because of an automobile accident, where I was not only paralysed, but I found out that I was the recipient of a rather severe closed head injury. I woke up six months later, to find myself paralysed, with one bum left arm and hand, and unable to talk. I had to first relearn how to speak, to be able to ask what had happened to me, as not only had I lost most all my short term memory, but I could not remember. as well as many other things, like

Just think of it, We could all have our own stand alone, self powering electricity generators, with only the initial cost of building it,(could be made of junkyard parts). These power manufacturers could be producing a seemingly endless supply of free electricity, all for the cost of upkeep. It is easy enough to build, as all you need is a twelve volt battery, two 12 Volt motors,(one DC + one AC) one large pulley, and at least one small pulley, a belt that fits the pulleys, and the hardware to put these parts together.(nuts + bolts + framing to mount on). This could even be done with 120 volt motors, to produce power for yourself, or to use as an income when you sell it back to the power company.

((along with electronics, such as an AC and a DC motor, a battery=(not needed), wires, a bridge rectifier and a voltage regulator, of equal voltage))
((all of the electronics to run this could be easily built on a simple proto-board))

(you might even be able to use any voltage motors - even 120 Volt)
((taking your output from the ac motor leads))
(((as I donâ€™t think the battery is a necessary component)))
It is a very simple mechanism in its workings, as it works by putting power into the motor with the big pulley attached, and you take power out from the motor-(generator) with the small pulley attached. The output motor, or several motors even, the one(s) with the small pulley attached, rotates a lot faster than your input motor,(more speed = increase in power). There is a belt connecting the two,(or more) motors together, that can be as small as you want, depending on if you required size constraints, or as large as you want, to accommodate multiple output generators,,, like in our petrol fuelled power stations, they could be easily modified to run on their own power. I cannot be sure, without having results from tests, but I think that we can gain more power, with every output generator that you add with a small pulley. But there is a warning that I have to give you, of a possible hazardous flaw in this free electricity generating system.
CAUTON,,,,,,,,,,
If this system is allowed to run freely,
without having any outside drain of power,
this system will overcharge itself,
and may even explode.
So, please,,,
be careful when experimenting with this mechanism.
Maybe this should be called an Energy Multiplier,
as you always need at least a little power,
to generate the greater amount of power.

I believe that we have been given a great gift, one that I think can help the whole world. The thing is,,, that I do not have sufficient funds to get the patent for this invention myself. This is where I wanted the Canadian government to step in and patent this idea, so that our citizens do not have to pay taxes any more,,, lol. I imagine that the royalties from this could not only replace our taxes, but would soon repay our national dept. Especially since, I can see all nations soon making laws regarding the need to convert to this non polluting form of producing electrical energy.
I later found a site on the web that said
That if you published something on the web
But did not choose to patent it
You would open it up to be used freely by everybody
So,,, this was the choice I decided on
To put the plans out on the web for all to use freely

Why not let electricity generate itself,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

PLEASE,,,
- take this serious, it does work, take a close look at this,,,
- I proved that it does indeed work with my electric wheelchair
- could I ask you to build a proto-type and prove it works.
- I cannot build it myself, because of an automobile accident in 96
- which not only paralyzed me, but took all of my manual dexterity
- and ruined my ability to build this device myself

This is a free source of energy.
I will demonstrate my gain of power to anyone at any time,,,,,,,,,,,
I went to the local paper, and submitted an earlier version of my description of this
But I guess that my description of it, and how I proved that it worked was not good enough, because they did not print my earlier writing and diagram. (not as detailed)
I will send this disciption to the News papers + stations also
to see if they will publish a story about one mans dream
to give this world a needed gift

This discovery (a self generating electricity multiplier)

(((I already sent the Canadian government an earlier coply of this, with no reaction.)))
(((Maybe they would better understand this description)))

Sorry, but I did not have the money to buy, nor do I know of anybody that I can ask to loan me, any kind of Mechano set. What I needed was a toy that is for building things, (like Lego) that has motors and pulleys, so that I could build a prototype of this mechanism. I guess that is one of the reasons that I have decided to send this out to the world, to see if they will prove that it works. But I most want to see if we Canadian's can put this out on the web, so that all people can have their own free electricity generators. Even though I truly hoped that our Canadian government would take this serious enough, to take a patent out on, so that we do not have to pay taxes anymore,,, lol.

I have stumbled upon the
PERPETUAL MOTION machine

Yes,,,,, and even better than perpetual,,,,
,,, this machine actually makes its own power,
as in â€" this system uses passing time to gain electrical energy,
yessss,,, we can let electricity generate itself,,,,
No more dependency on OIL, and the middle east oil supplies,,,
= and the world says,
YESSSSSSS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Now hold on just a moment,,,
I know that this is not a true example of perpetual motion,,,
Because of bearings alone,
or should I say, the fact that they will wear out eventually,
That is why I added the word "machine" afterwards
This is a man made machine,
Which only mimics perpetual motion,
As it continues to run, seemingly forever,
Producing electricity as a bonus,

This is a gift from me to you,,,
To share with the world,
a way of gaining free energy,
seemingly from nothing,

This came to me when I was over visiting at the park,
I was thinking about how electricity worked,
and how my electric chair had the ability to charge itself,
on most any type of downhill run,
(as it uses an electrical breaking system)

I don't know if you know anything about me or not,
but learning new things is one of my greatest pleasures
and,,,,
When investigating how things work,,,
I always have to push the limits,,, lol
not only learning how things works,
but then tinker with trying to improve them,,,,, lol

I went with the idea of a ten speed bicycle, (something that I knew about)
Where I wanted to go uphill in tenth gear, (least rotations of the pedals)=motor
and then downhill in first gear, (most rotations of pedals)=motor
so, I would go uphill at full speed,
and then downhill at slow speed
So,,, now I had something to experiment with,
now I had measurable tests to do,

I started off with a low battery, (so that I did not have the power to drive all the way up)
driving up a long steep hill at the park in the full speed position, (tenth gear)
(until my chair would not go any further, as my battery was dead)
and then going back down the hill in slow speed, (first gear)
(not super slow, as I had time limits = only 4-6 hours of sunlight left)
Then I immediately turned around, and went back up at full speed,
And guess what happened,,,,
I could travel twenty feet higher up the hill,
so, I had a net gain of electricity,,, (a blessing)

Logic and common sense says,
that you will have energy losses,
do to heat from friction if nothing else,
causing you to not be able to make it as far up the hill,
the second time you drive up it,

Well, I first thought that this might just be a strange happening,
so I did it again and again, doing it three times,
each time gaining twenty more feet, up a steep hill, (60 feet total)
Not only did I do it three times that day,
but I later thought that this went against logic, (I must have dreamed it)
and I did the whole experiment over,
with the same electricity gaining results

I know that there are inner workings of the motor + drive system,
that I have not even roughly looked into,
to find out why + how it works like a 10 speed,
Sorry, but I have no time to color + shade in this drawing,
I could only give you this rough sketch,
and let others get the enjoyment of coloring in the details,
may this bring you at least some of the thrills that I have experien-ced,
when I was showed this amazing reasoning,
Please read (Luke 18:29-30)

Someone could easily build a self supplying energy producing power supply,
With a 12v battery,(not needed) two motors, a small and large pulley, and a belt,
You connect the motor with the big pulley up as a power in, driver motor,
And then connect the motor,(s) with the small pulley to be used as an output
When you put power into the drive motor,
You get out a multiple of this power, (on each of the out generators)
Compared to the size difference of the drive motor, (large pulley)
And your output or generator motor. (small pulley)

--- (after thought) ---
I feel bad,,, about being so sluggish,
Wishing that I could have spoken of these things earlier,
as in, as soon as it came to me, a few years ago,
(I had a hard time wondering why this was not discovered earlier)
((I guess that we are waiting on His Timing))
(((as nobody seems to be listening to my logic)))
((((nobody has built one for me yet, to prove me wrong)))
NOW
Please,,, send this to everybody you know,,, so that we can have more people working on ways to utilize this new use for old technology,,,, after all, more is usually better,,,,,,,,

Benefits to humanity:
- To be an effective way to decrease our negative environmental effects on our earth,
- To be able to give free electrical power to all people,
- To greatly reduce our oil dependency,
- To give the Middle East less power,
- To lessen the chance of our need for oil getting us into another war,
- To put a needed boast to our economy,
--- by creating many new items to manufacture and sell

I want to get this out in the market fast,,,
so that there are many of these around,
for everybody to get their hands on,
so that we can all have free running electric cars
As well as having their own 120 volt power supplies
there is a full diagram of this device at
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ (http://free-energy.yolasite.com/)

how about energy multiplication[/font][/size]
where you have two equal voltage motors[/font][/size]
one is DC for input
which has a large pulley attached to it
the second motor is AC
on a much smaller pulley
this way your driver motor only turns a few times
while your output motor spins hundreds of times
you get a multiple of power out
compared to the power you put in
you run your output motor, (or multiple motors)
through a full wave bridge rectifier and voltage regulator
to power your DC input motor[/font][/size]
and take AC power straight off your AC generator[/font][/size]
You could start this system running by giving the big pulley a little turn[/font][/size]

I proved this works[/font][/size]
with my electric wheelchair
gaining 20 feet more distance up a steep hill
every time I drove up the hill fast
and then drove back down the hill slow
(I had to set my chair to max torq=1st gear and max speed=10th gear)
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ (http://free-energy.yolasite.com/)
We could all be putting power back into the system, by building a rough Perpetual Motion mechanisms out of junk yard parts even. I would imagine that the manufacturing industry would quickly come out with these mechanisms in all sizes, so that people could easily supplement their incomes by selling power to the power companies.
Sorry,
but I happen to be disabled + on Canada Pension
so I do not have the ability to do many experiments
nor do I have the funds to pay someone else to build a proto-type
but I was hoping that someone would build a proto-type
and prove this works before too long
It is dirt simple to build
PLEASE,,,
Someone build this and report back on your results
there is a diagram of this device at
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ (http://free-energy.yolasite.com/)
I will try to put the drawing in the file section of each forum I visit
please,,, this is a gift
It is here for you to do with what you want
it is cheap and easy to build
the fuel it burns is time
the more time you run it
the more power you get out of it
True Source of a real free energy system.
This is a Gift to all of mankind and the rest of nature,
( no more fossil fuels polluting our environment )
free energy machine = let Electricity multiply itself [/size]
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ (http://free-energy.yolasite.com/)[/size]
PLEASE let us act FAST[/size]
Let this be a Gift to all mankind
We could all be putting power back into the system, by building a rough Perpetual Motion mechanisms out of junk yard parts even. I would imagine that the manufacturing industry would quickly come out with these mechanisms in all sizes, so that people could easily supplement their incomes by selling power to the power companies.
We could all be putting power back into the system, by building a rough
[/size]Perpetual Motion mechanisms out of junk yard parts even. I would imagine that[/font][/size]
the manufacturing industry would quickly come out with these mechanisms in all[/font][/size]
sizes, so that people could easily supplement their incomes by selling power to
the power companies.
--- In EVGRAY@yahoogroups.com (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EVGRAY/post?postID=FNmasDr8nyzef7Gwb21sgF7SHPhlrh8hzTYTV_5HEBKhCcr6h_m1BF8mc9KhaTfXe92Ejzwe8MAjcjpp-g), Joe <one_christian_warrior@...> wrote:[/size]
>[/size]
> we could have free 120 volt AC power
> I think this should be be easy enough to run 120 volt AC out of the leads in
the diagram
> I dont even think that it will need a battery
> you just take your 120 volt AC off the leads of this machine
> befor it goes into the bridge rectifier\
> I would hope that there is a 120 volt DC motor out there to use
>
> please,,, someone build this free 120 volt AC power suply
> I cannot, as I was disabled in a car accident
> on canada pension
> so I cannot afford to pay someone to build it
>
> we could have an easy to build
> 120 volt AC free energy power supply
> for each and every home

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on March 09, 2012, 04:36:00 PM

o_c_w, there are several threads in this forum (some of them you started) where you post the same or alike text. Look: on this forum nobody builds someone' else ideas especially when they are not sure if it works: build it yourself first. I guess, you should be removed from this thread since it is out of its theme.
To prove that it won't work: to turn a small wheel cranking a big one REQUIRES MORE ENERGY THAN DOING THE OPPOSITE. That's it!! SIMPLE!! I am almost sixty years old and I was doing this number of times through my life, and always I have experienced that: turning small wheel through big one is much more painful and tiring comparing the opposite.
I recommend you a site like this one, just to learn: http://www.fi.edu/time/Journey/Time/Escapements/gearint.html (http://www.fi.edu/time/Journey/Time/Escapements/gearint.html)
or this: http://www.howstuffworks.com/search.php?terms=gear
Gears and levers physics works the same way.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on March 10, 2012, 09:48:06 PM

Hi one_christian_warrior,
If you say this is possible why not give the specs, pictures or videos of your wheel chair to prove, (not beeing sarcastic) but i doubt it, because electric wheelchairs are not designed as overunity machines, surely the battery will deplete, unless you have an ambient extraction process on board like Ismael aviso, i think only RV's are capable of this...

GOD bless you brother!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 11, 2012, 12:28:41 PM

I think this belongs here ::)
http://pesn.com/2011/10/13/9501933_Aviso_Requests_Expert_Help_for_Equation/ (http://pesn.com/2011/10/13/9501933_Aviso_Requests_Expert_Help_for_Equation/)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 25, 2012, 09:24:27 PM

I just want these things here. thats all. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwiz_QWuwO4&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwiz_QWuwO4&feature=relmfu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=TL71UaC_z2I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ&feature=related
save it hurry up ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z99dQ_3ZaLA&feature=related`
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBZTXdf7c-o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7k-GlLhpp8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufVjdvRw4LM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGRSsri0laE ================== its just a GUYABANO TREE HMMMMMMMMMM..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q51waJJ5D9c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C_mb14Szsw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AovQDIV7DEo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeKSNmIjkDA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxeoiaFKHIY&feature=related

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 06, 2012, 09:16:54 PM

let say we have a awg#14 wire as core and a awg#22 then make the awg#22 a bipilar and perpendicular to the awg#14.

The source is AA batery, then pulse it and check the energy created in awg#14. ;)

note: add some magnets in top and end of the core. :D
note: there are some minor and major connection here but they are self explanatory and easy to discover ok?, be patience. ;)

ooooops: i forgot, there should be an extended wire of atleast awg#8 connected in the awg#22 to do the magic. ;D

THIS IS FOR THE WORLD, LOVE YOU EVERYONE. CHEERS :D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 06, 2012, 09:23:58 PM

Hey Tito ;]

How have ya been?

Hey, when you say perpendicular, Like this ( H )or like this ( IlI ) ;]

You said something of this before but Im just making sure of the orientation.

Thanks

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 06, 2012, 09:31:44 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 06, 2012, 09:40:48 PM

I've been here all along, i just make watching here and i just feel soooo very lonely remembering my mother. :'(

currently i'm busy playing with my hydrogen gun shooting some birds in the field with my children.

o'h why life is so short and temporary? :( [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 06, 2012, 09:44:18 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 06, 2012, 09:31:44 PM
H

H for Ha Ha He He ;D Or like this maybe _____ Or right in the middle? H
I I

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 06, 2012, 09:47:17 PM

It happens to everyone to some level. And it happened to them, and they before them.
You know. God has his reasons and we shouldnt question that. But it is hard sometimes. I know.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 06, 2012, 10:00:34 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on May 06, 2012, 09:44:18 PM
H for Ha Ha He He ;D Or like this maybe _____ Or right in the middle? H
I I

Mags

its right in the middle of an H. its like we are making and electro magnet. the reason is bipilar is stronger than ordinary coiling. and when it is pulsed the extended wire is like waiting for a cut to make its movement. then to make a lot of oscillation then add some small caps in the cutting section. and that is the real secret of amplification of tesla. 8) bye.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 06, 2012, 10:25:44 PM

Hmm, Is this what is done in the TPU? Like there is 4 coils in 4 places around the ring and the ring has wire looped around it that loops through the middle of those 4 coils like you described. ;) lol Just guessin from what I have seen.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 06, 2012, 10:52:04 PM

;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 06, 2012, 11:00:36 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 06, 2012, 10:52:04 PM
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Well thats a lotta eye winkin son. ;] Maybe you got a squirt of lemon there. ;]

Mags n The Moonies

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 06, 2012, 11:08:01 PM

Once more for clarity. ;] If we were to look into the end of the emty core of the 22ga coil like a telescope, we should see 1 half of a cross hair( 14ga wire) in the tube. ;] or multiples together of 14ga wire. Are 4 coils needed? Or is it the more coils the stronger the output?
I know its a lot of questions, but..... ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 07, 2012, 01:24:31 AM

I think we can move water in closed loop hose squeezing the walls and pushing around . is that TPU ? extremallly simple - particle accelerator like

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 07, 2012, 07:37:41 AM

I believe there's a Russian video doing just this, see if I can find it.

Is this one of those slap yourself moments :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 07, 2012, 07:46:01 AM

Oh oh oh (hand up) I know ;D
;D what if we took iron wire coiled with copper wire put it in the core and caught the eddy currents.
???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 07, 2012, 08:00:38 PM

Well, I'm willing to take apart my last TPU attempt and start again...
Here's a link that I think might speak to the workings of this device:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMKlmnsmMgk&list=UUILEE40HKtAtLsnnwYAe75Q&index=5&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMKlmnsmMgk&list=UUILEE40HKtAtLsnnwYAe75Q&index=5&feature=plcp)
Please go right to 9:30 and watch Don Smith introduce his toroidal power unit (precursor to Bearden's MEG, I think). Pay very close attention to what he says at 14:50 -- "... it's a cyclotron type deal...." - he talks about taking power off thru the taps on it.

Smith's device seems to have two sets of perpendicular windings - one on each side of the toroid. My guess is that the windings are cw and ccw. Then, he has a winding over the whole thing. It looks like simple multi-strand copper lamp wire.

I'll go back to earlier posts to paste in Tito's specs and a remark by Sir Mags.
Ltr
Bob

Edit: Here's Tito's first specs:

Quotelet say we have a awg#14 wire as core and a awg#22 then make the awg#22 a bipilar and perpendicular to the awg#14.

The source is AA batery, then pulse it and check the energy created in awg#14. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fwink.gif&hash=0d9aacf9391b7fda4adbf7cd091f687bfd283341)

note: add some magnets in top and end of the core. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fcheesy.gif&hash=7d0965c90d82609ff035762d1b14127de2e79ba1)
note: there are some minor and major connection here but they are self explanatory and easy to discover ok?, be patience. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fwink.gif&hash=0d9aacf9391b7fda4adbf7cd091f687bfd283341)

ooooops: i forgot, there should be an extended wire of at least awg#8 connected in the awg#22 to do the magic. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fgrin.gif&hash=48cd3b652a891d74b4b4ef746db528263b551e0c)

Sir Mags of the Royal Order of Energetic Knights writes:

QuoteIf we were to look into the end of the emty core of the 22ga coil like a telescope, we should see 1 half of a cross hair( 14ga wire) in the tube. ;] or multiples together of 14ga wire.

Okay, now this reminds me of Smith's little toroid thingy. It's got the perpy bifilar lamp wire windings, the antennas and the windings across the diameter. Anyway, check it out and see what you think.

My old one has shorted single stranded iron wire core with 4 perp copper windings.

Just a note about the core. A bifilar series connected core will cancel out the core's transverse EM wave. This cancels any reflective losses in the primary's power factor due to flux induced by the secondary. This means that the power remains unaffected in the primary, while inducing energy into the secondary wooooo hoooo!!!

Now, I'm not sure this is really what Tito is implying in his specs, but I thought I'd mention it. I think it's the way I'm gonna go - not sure if it's necessary or not.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 07, 2012, 08:36:28 PM

Hey Bob and All

Just put a simple thing together to see what we will see. Just 2in pvc 6in long with a hole drilled through the tube at 3in Aprox. Just banged it out. Simple.

Using 10ga high strand no. wire for the horizontal part of the H and wound some 20ga speaker wire(as Teets has said to have used before), half of the tube with one color and the other half with another color. This way I can rewind 1 half in the opposite direction a might quick if the all CW doesnt show anything.

Been thinkin on it all day and I dont see(in my mind) that any output will come from the 10ga with just CW bifi on the length of the tube. Like what determines which end of the 10ga becomes POS or NEG. But if Cw and CCW, then I see it possible of things not being symmetrical. ;) I will try the Cw and CCW after the all CW test.

It all seems too weird but easy enough to get funky with it. :o ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 07, 2012, 09:52:12 PM

Tried 2 perpendicular coils, one cw and other ccw on ferrite toroid just for fun. Both 28 AWG joined in series.
No result.

Will try different config and core in next few days, tomorrow if possible.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 08, 2012, 01:00:50 AM

Did some stuff. The 10ga wire does have some output, surprisingly. Not much, but something. My coil is not that many turns. I dont know if more will be better.

My meter didnt really pick up anything, but the probescope does. Near 5v peak with 12 pulse. Pulse by hand. So the outputs were varied. Im just wondering how this config could work at all.
Also, from what I see, the output is polarity oriented as my output peaks were positive. Strange.

Hopefully Tweets can throw us a bone here. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 08, 2012, 11:46:02 AM

Thanks for the nice pics, Mags. I had something very different in mind - glad you posted.
I'll try to replicate tonight.
Have you seen this?:
http://www.free-energy-info.com/VladimirUtkin.pdf (http://www.free-energy-info.com/VladimirUtkin.pdf)
If you go to page 5 and following, there's an almost identical rendition of what's in your picture, along with an explanation of the principles behind it.

Mags the Electronic Sleuth, breaking the Tito code...
(maybe there's a mini-series in there somewhere)
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 08, 2012, 02:02:28 PM

well, here is something related to Tito dominos effect, just small scale and very unefficient.....
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11292-delamorto-simple-inverter-device.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on May 08, 2012, 05:39:40 PM

Just a suggestion:

http://www.overunity.com/8185/understanding-electricity-in-the-tpu/msg236668/#msg236668

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 08, 2012, 06:55:40 PM

Hey Mags,
I think your setup has emitted strange energy that has attracted aliens. There are glowing red toes at the bottom of your second picture. Perhaps the digital format has captured this interdimensional entity's image heretofore beyond the scope of unaided ocular vision. Keep water handy - aliens hate it.
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 08, 2012, 09:35:29 PM

Oh ya got me. That third foot always gets in the way. ;] Dats my feets.

I have a few of these Utkin files. They all seem to start on the same page, but some are different as you go. But, they all point to oppositely wound coils from the middle. Not necessarily bifi, but oppositely wound. Also it seems backward of what Teets says as to what the primary and secondary are.

Gunna use a smaller pvc tube with multi layer windings left and right of the middle. I think a smaller dia will have more concentration of field in the core.

If this is what the TPU is using, his 4 coils look pretty short. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 08, 2012, 10:34:50 PM

I ended up using multi-stranded single wire: 30 cw on top half, 30 ccw on bottom. My tube was 3" wide pvc. No real difference in power. I was running pulsed DC thru a relay switch and into coil, with a 12 v bulb as resistive load. Tried wiring as centre-tapped and in series, but no real voltage difference. Also tried shorted bifi wire thru centre, no voltage reading. Also tried it with an electrolytic cap (1 leg coming out each side) and a mylar cap. Neither would load.
I couldn't get my picture to load as attachment. Maybe it was too large (maybe it was the aliens again). Will try again another time.
Yeah, I need to go back to Tito's specs, and to try a narrower tube as well - maybe 1" or 1.5" dia. Will save this puppy for some Utkinizing later on.
Sleep tight everybody :)
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 08, 2012, 10:49:00 PM

Hey Bob. I got no readings with my meter. Are you using a scope?

From my readings, maybe something builds if the input pulses are faster. Kicks. This reminds me of Agent Gates coil, as he said it was a function of the TPU. Maybe we gotta kick it up a few notches along the way. ;]

The utkin thing seems to imply that the opposite wound coils could self oscillate once excited , and build on is own. Even gives advice on how to stop the oscillation process. :o Interesting. ;] That may be a theoretical, idealistic form. Even so, an ideal LC should just ring forever, but even with losses, a circuit that has tendencies to build on its own, should be advantageous in the real world.

Hopefully the new one Im making has more to show. Ill show both when its done.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on May 08, 2012, 11:17:28 PM

No more Aliens. Continue repeating already done mistakes. Trust honest Tito.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on May 09, 2012, 12:59:41 AM

Hi Guys,
Is this the same with what you are doing here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dkcggzRIFnY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dkcggzRIFnY)

And glad to hear again from you sir teets!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 09, 2012, 12:23:51 PM

QuoteHey Bob. I got no readings with my meter. Are you using a scope?

Hi Mags, I only used my meter, but will try it with the scope tonight if I'm able.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 09, 2012, 09:19:10 PM

Below is my setup as described above. I ran the scope on it tonight - centre tapped, with 12v bulb as load. Running sharp pos/neg spikes every 2.5mSec, roughly 30 volts. Not really getting any more juice than I put in. 12 bulb has blue lens, which is lighting up ice cube relay, running off three depleted 9v batteries. I also ran it thru a small 10 layer 26AWG bifi coil with ferrite core to see if that would boost it before the cylinder, but no effect that I could see. Anyway, I feel a little sheepish about even posting this, but out of courtesy, having said I would...

Not sure how much I can do the next few days - out of town.
I did buy two 24' rolls of 18 gauge multi-stranded lamp wire and a 1.5" x 8" PVC sink tailpipe at the hardware at Canadian Tire tonight (eh!). Perfect size, I hope and less than 5 bucks. Will get at it when I can, and will keep following thread's progress.
Gotta go back to Tito's specs...
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 09, 2012, 10:43:19 PM

hey Bob

Yea, i was leaning toward doing the oppositely wound turns on each half first because of my thoughts that Titos way didnt make sense, in my mind.

But I did it anyways and I do see something. I expected nothing, nada pip.

What were you pertaining to when you say center tap? Just to get the gist of what your doing. ;]

I have solder connections in the middle of the bifi where I joined the 2 color speaker wires together, but I dont connect anything there. The speaker wire is marked , one with a black stripe.

I take the black stripe from the botom of the tube winding and connect it to the wire at the top of the tube winding without a black stripe. Then apply the input to the bottom wire without a stripe and the top wire with the stripe. Series bifi.

And Im just measuring the ends of the 10ga wire( bout 9 in. long)

My new one is going on the same lines but with more layers for the bifi and shorter. More dense than long with a single layer. Also, Im going to make it so the hole in the tube for the 10ga is re workable so I can just try 1 wire or run loops of thinner wire to maybe up the output voltage. Just to see what we can see.

I dont think Teets gave us the full picture yet. just a seed. He also threw in additional info I have not tried yet till this new one is done. Like the addition of core material, magnets, adding caps to the windings near the middle of the bifi, addition of the length of the 8ga wire.? Dont know what that is for yet. :o

Im just doing the first thing he said, as he said to look for the output while pulsing the bifi with the 1.5v AA. I moved to 12v pretty quick. lol Im just amazed that with this config that I got anything at all, considering my preconceived thoughts before trying. ;] With the probe scope, 1v scale, its off the scale. At 10v scale, near 5v.

The Utkin files lean toward opposing windings, and are the output windings. kinda backwards of Teets way. We can only try. That would be funny if Tees way works somehow and all these Utkin files are showing how to do it a way that it wont work? :o
As much as I have seen this file tossed around, I dont see anyone actually doing it. Some must have. But I dont here of it. ;] Just thinkin.

Mags

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 09, 2012, 11:17:31 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on May 09, 2012, 12:59:41 AM
Hi Guys,
Is this the same with what you are doing here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dkcggzRIFnY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dkcggzRIFnY)

And glad to hear again from you sir teets!

Hey C

No, this is different I think. But that vid it the first that got me to maybe understand what is happening in that device, as we have seen this before. Most people would imagine a coil in there. I was surprised. ;] Again.

That copper tube is very low ohms from end to end. So it would take incredible input across it to have any readable voltage across it to light leds or a lightbulb. But when he overs it with cores, the inductance probably gets pretty high thus allowing it to act like a wound inductor and act like one when pulsed, therefor we can have an some collapse current and measurable voltage potential across that copper tube from end to end. So the leds or light bulbs can make use of it.

Thats the only way I can comprehend how that works. Teets version, the output is perpendicular to the input. It is possible that a similar fuction is happening in Larskro's vid, I just havnt thought that deep on it yet. Like the nail, or the screw driver, when inserted, is it that the nail or the screw driver is just acting like a part of or an extention of the copper tube and becomes part of the inductor to be able to have decent voltage from end to end? Or is the output of the nail or screw driver induced by the copper tubes field? I lean toward induced, but by definition of how mutual induction works, I dont see it yet here.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 10, 2012, 04:02:38 PM

Hi Mags,
I wound the coil beginning in the centre:
- clockwise from centre down (black)
- ccw from centre up (red)
By centre-tapped, I mean that I joined the two ends closest to the centre as an input (maybe my terminology isn't quite correct). Then, I joined the ends as an output from the coil to the bulb, then negative terminal on the relay.

I also tried the setup as you described (bifi-series), but didn't scope it. I didn't see an appreciable difference in voltage output. Part of the problem might be the bombastic size of the tube :) . I'm hoping the 1.5" dia tube will fare much better.

I don't know what to think about Utkin, really. I do however think there's something to the bifi winding and its ability (series wound) to cancel out transverse EM waves and set the stage for shakin' up the aether. :o ;D :o

I'll follow your progress and resume when I get back from my trip.
Bob

Tito: You're the man that's got us dancing! (Think of the 70s song, "Do the Hustle" and substitute "Tito" for "Hustle" : "Do the Tito!" I'm feelin' it...) ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 10, 2012, 10:25:51 PM

Hope folks don't mind... Here are Tito's specs again. I keep reading them over and over. Maybe it's much less complicated than I thought:

Quote
let say we have a awg#14 wire as core and a awg#22 then make the awg#22 a bipilar and perpendicular to the awg#14.
The source is AA batery, then pulse it and check the energy created in awg#14.
note: add some magnets in top and end of the core.
note: there are some minor and major connection here but they are self explanatory and easy to discover ok?, be patience.
ooooops: i forgot, there should be an extended wire of atleast awg#8 connected in the awg#22 to do the magic.
THIS IS FOR THE WORLD, LOVE YOU EVERYONE. CHEERS
its right in the middle of an H. its like we are making and electro magnet. the reason is bipilar is stronger than ordinary coiling. and when it is pulsed the extended wire is like waiting for a cut to make its movement. then to make a lot of oscillation then add some small caps in the cutting section. and that is the real secret of amplification of tesla. bye.

Here's a thought - what if the core were just a shorted single strand going in one direction. You pulse, thereby setting up a kind of cyclotron inside the shorted coil. Is the perpendicular bifi going to naturally oscillate as its own LC, and kick back at the core? Now, if a cap is added to the bifi, does it kick harder? Just thinking out loud, maybe it's some variation...
Wish I could try it, but gtg. Will try it when I get back.
bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 11, 2012, 01:26:16 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on May 10, 2012, 10:25:51 PM
Hope folks don't mind... Here are Tito's specs again. I keep reading them over and over. Maybe it's much less complicated than I thought:
Here's a thought - what if the core were just a shorted single strand going in one direction. You pulse, thereby setting up a kind of cyclotron inside the shorted coil. Is the perpendicular bifi going to naturally oscillate as its own LC, and kick back at the core? Now, if a cap is added to the bifi, does it kick harder? Just thinking out loud, maybe it's some variation...
Wish I could try it, but gtg. Will try it when I get back.
bob

My thoughts exactly. Even more I think I cracked Don Smith famous formula ;-) and it's describing shorted coil

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on May 12, 2012, 12:53:39 PM

what as Tito told maybe work, but it's not TPU. SM is a great man, He use several Tesla's coils together to create a huge Kick. if you know Tesla coil and know mathematics well, you will know TPU.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: iflewmyown on May 12, 2012, 01:15:08 PM

@Forest
http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf (http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf)

Search for "Mcfreey"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 12, 2012, 05:40:15 PM

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-165.html#post192695

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 14, 2012, 09:44:51 PM

My bench time is limited right now due to travel. But I did have time to quickly wind up a 5 inch coil of 18 gauge multistrand shorted bifi lamp wire. I put 1 loop of 26 gauge single strand bifi wire perpendicular around the whole thing, with 2 small ceramic caps between the shorted ends (i.e., wire-cap-wire/wire-cap-wire). -Not exactly what Teets specifies, but it's what's at hand right now as I'm on the fly.

I pulsed the shorted perpendicular wire manually and noticed the degrading voltage in the coil with my cheapo digital meter. Couldn't get anything on the scope, but don't have time to fiddle. Was hoping to see a series of diminishing pulses/kicks. Oh well, will try again later in the week.

If the larger (single or bifi) coil is shorted (instead of series wound), I believe it retains its inductive properties. I think this is what we want in terms of kick, don't we? - Primary and secondary kicking back at each other?

FWIW
Bob
edit: correction on wire gauge

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on May 15, 2012, 11:05:30 AM

Good thinking Bob, I'm reading the utkin Pdf reg. the shorted coil, and trying to experiment with it using a rotor, but no results so far, maybe it's easier if I try it in solid state with the help of a scope, Am still waiting for my nano scope to arrive.

Regards Cc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 14, 2012, 05:15:28 AM

i just want it here! >:(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxPBiOccSLo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxPBiOccSLo&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kgzrXFSDwA&feature=fvwrel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kgzrXFSDwA&feature=fvwrel)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ignJRwZ90I&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ignJRwZ90I&feature=related)

anti gravity is real ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHlAJ7vySC8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHlAJ7vySC8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeXIV-wMVUk&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeXIV-wMVUk&feature=related)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 05, 2012, 02:23:06 AM

Counsel[/size]
Speaking of your not having perfectly undamped waves at that time, you were referring to that character of circuit?[/size]
Tesla[/size]
Yes, but with another kind of circuit I could, of course. The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in the technical papers. I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.[/size]
I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive.[/size]
A common experiment, for instance, in my laboratory on Houston Street, was to pass through a coil energy at a rate of several thousand horsepower, put a piece of thick tinfoil on a stick, and approach it to that coil. The tinfoil would melt, and would not only melt, but while it was still in that form, it would be evaporated and the whole process took place in so small an interval of time that it was like a cannon shot. Instantly I put it there, there was an explosion. That was a striking experiment. It simply showed the power of the condenser, and at that time I was so reckless that in order to demonstrate to my visitors that my theories were correct, I would stick my head into that coil and I was not hurt; but, I would not do it now.[/size]

In a single isolated transformer, we have the primary and secondary, now the primary is connected to the source, because of the effect of primary the secondary power is generated without connection to the primary, its a clear gain in the secondary is it not?

its just 1 +1 equals = free energy

In battery and 1 cap: charge the cap then connect them in series you get more volts than the source is it not?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 05, 2012, 03:03:22 AM

Here is your TPU

Counsel[/size]
Mr. Tesla, at that point, what did you mean by electro-magnetic momentum?[/size]
Tesla[/size]
I mean that you have to have in the circuit, inertia. You have to have a large self-inductance in order that you may accomplish two things: First, a comparatively low frequency, which will reduce the radiation of the electromagnetic waves to a comparatively small value, and second, a great resonant effect. That is not possible in an antenna, for instance, of large capacity and small self-inductance. A large capacity and small self-inductance is the poorest kind of circuit which can be constructed; it gives a very small resonant effect. That was the reason why in my experiments in Colorado the energies were 1,000 times greater than in the present antennae.[/size]
Counsel[/size]
You say the energy was 1,000 times greater. Do you mean that the voltage was increased, or the current, or both?[/size]
Tesla[/size]
Yes [both]. To be more explicit, I take a very large self-inductance and a comparatively small capacity, which I have constructed in a certain way so that the electricity cannot leak out. I thus obtain a low frequency; but, as you know, the electromagnetic radiation is proportionate to the square root of the capacity divided by the self-induction. I do not permit the energy to go out; I accumulate in that circuit a tremendous energy. When the high potential is attained, if I want to give off electromagnetic waves, I do so, but I prefer to reduce those waves in quantity and pass a current into the earth, because electromagnetic wave energy is not recoverable while that [earth] current is entirely recoverable, being the energy stored in an elastic system.[/size]

tesla implying a great control of his circuit! even it is 1000 time greater than ordinary. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 05, 2012, 03:24:27 AM

oh how fun it is dissecting teslas works :) it really gives hope to free energy isn't it, cause its the truth! :)

therefore as he implys that all we need to have is a great resonant effect to attain tremendous energy!. hmmmmmmm;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 05, 2012, 03:36:36 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 05, 2012, 03:24:27 AM
oh how fun it is dissecting teslas works :) it really gives hope to free energy isn't it, cause its the truth! :)

therefore as he implys that all we need to have is a great resonant effect to attain tremendous energy!. hmmmmmmm;)

well well but how to do that using common electronics :( trying to compute simple 8uF capacitor discharge gives me tremendous currents in start of discharge. Is theory spoiled ? how even mechanical interrupter could stand 1400Amperes ? yet Tesla did it, so theory must be wrong, something is missing. Try to do that using mosfets or igbt >:( the problem is that those starting kicks should be rare if we need amplification, it's like hammer and gong example.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 05, 2012, 03:44:07 AM

Quote from: forest on August 05, 2012, 03:36:36 AM
well well but how to do that using common electronics :( trying to compute simple 8uF capacitor discharge gives me tremendous currents in start of discharge. Is theory spoiled ? how even mechanical interrupter could stand 1400Amperes ? yet Tesla did it, so theory must be wrong, something is missing. Try to do that using mosfets or igbt >:( the problem is that those starting kicks should be rare if we need amplification, it's like hammer and gong example.

buddy, tesla is not using mosfets ;D he is only using coils, caps, resistors, and spark gaps with magnets.

The important thing is the arrangement ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 05, 2012, 03:52:07 AM

ok!

here is one of tesla's secret, since he could not fight electricity face to face, that's why he burned a lot of equipment, then he just let the electricity flow where it wants to go but he is holding the nose of the electricity. hmmmmmmmm ;) 8)

he learned how to control it right? :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 05, 2012, 03:52:27 AM

this are all descriptions of the machina thermodynamica ,also called heat pump with the Carnot-process inside.
deus~dynamica physics dyn/erg -Space

But dynamics has got one ,little,demonical structural problem:
to ministrate the
absolute max. absolute min.
points of no return.
one way ticket.
ida/ sine volta

Condenser,evaporator,pump and ? in english ? the "drosselspule" the decelerator=Entschleuniger , it is an
-a device

the kinematical relativism between a and -a is the reversibility the -versa-
the momentum : from the Ruhepol,Min. to vortex velocity may. ,clock-vise or anti-=counter-clock-vise
(Zero Point,Nullpunkt )
Time in /out (-Timex,Trademark ;) attention ! ) machina

ida sine volta,out of time: well-come to the free-time sociedade

is it real,is it fake/manipulation/suggestion,or is it a miracle/a wonder/inspiration:
for the artists there is no border
fake is reality
reality is fake
a wonder is reality
reality is a wonder

Tesla and Einstein proposed from the media like magicians

But these guys only as the Top of the life art artists/scientists pyramide
Physics the look into the Relativity in the Makro- and Micro-life sphere

Makro-sphere-question:
Are the galaxies,like told to us, the one eating the other,cannibalism
or are we seeing a sexual koppulation akt !?
Seemen and ovulum.

Like Sigmund Freund and C.G.Jung about the humans
and Konrad Lorenz about the animals
Salvatore Dali and his oeuvre about time.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
e=2,....
pi=3,1..... or 22/7 transzendentials =Verhaeltniszahlen

zu

lg/log
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Relation-science~ Verhaltensforschung :

Are we understanding signs/signals/words/letters missions (w)right ?
Are we reading and thinking: left sided to right sided or other sided :P vise-versa
about language handmaded=Altamira/Lascaux written,spoken also about the speak and spell
Fundamentals,the laws and orders,
with al-(g)ebra and (g)eometria
IOmetrics
Decathlon
Decalog the 10. moadivian advices Moadib,Dune= Moses/Moises

quadratur/quadro/caixa Kreises/crisis

and handeled,active and passive, with ratio ??? sin(n) ??? human touch ??? kindly ???
with conscious~with the highest or deepest plazet=okay

konkret/fix/physical or concrete ::) ,zement or abstract impressionistical or expressionistical
Rodin, the Thinker Munch: the (dernier) Cry/
Shout
without Tears for Fears

panta rei the flow of life and living from myriad -un-/visible- creature
unvisible ? not with specific tools, -scope !

About Life/lives : outside our body and life/lives inside our body.
In each body from us is a micro-myriad cell-bodies-world.

Look to your watch,the analog watch version,please,not digital :
look,
feel your pulsation inside your body
watch in your side
and listen to your inside speaker

who is talking to U
::)
With great possibility not one from the Hyde Parc speakers corner.

Probably your Baby-phone,your Baby wants to speak with you,thursty and hungry
it is the long story about milk and honey ,U (k)now

Myriad cell-bodies and one,from in to out -internal- voice.

S.F. called it: IT, ES ( I hope not John Carpenter-movie like ::) , "....... from the other world" )
and ,please,IT (here , anglais version,left right read sided )
not I.T.,that is a technical branch expression

left to right/right to left counter-/clock-vise orientation/okzidentation

but I think that you understand me (be)cause u write,if you describe yourself
I - and not - i ,is it not ? Or is it ?

the laws from gra(ph)matrics as we learned,
did we understood these laws
fundamental: up and down the lawn

With my kindest regards
CdL,(J)O-boxer

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 05, 2012, 04:20:16 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 05, 2012, 03:52:07 AM
ok!

here is one of tesla's secret, since he could not fight electricity face to face, that's why he burned a lot of equipment, then he just let the electricity flow where it wants to go but he is holding the nose of the electricity. hmmmmmmmm ;) 8)

he learned how to control it right? :)

here is the question : is there a difference when capacitor is charged from current source or from inductive collapse of coil ?!!!!! :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 05, 2012, 04:38:27 AM

Quote from: forest on August 05, 2012, 04:20:16 AM
here is the question : is there a difference when capacitor is charged from current source or from inductive collapse of coil ?!!!!! :o

well, the capacitor has the power to immitate what was the one who charge to it. ;)
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[size=78%]The question should be how is the best position of the caps in the circuit to become effective?. [/size] ;)
[size=78%]it must have a multi purpose action ok [/size] :) [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 05, 2012, 04:47:20 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 05, 2012, 04:38:27 AM

well, the capacitor has the power to immitate what was the one who charge to it. ;)
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[size=78%]The question should be how is the best position of the caps in the circuit to become effective?. [/size] ;)
[size=78%]it must have a multi purpose action ok [/size] :) [size=78%] [/size]

I know one such arrangement and it's ignitor patent, but did you succeded using it with mosfets ? :o
May I ask btw when in resonant cycle capacitor is charged ? is it in 1/4 of cycle ?I need to find this time to combine two resonant circuits to efficient;y recharge capacitor only from inductive collapse of coil from first slower resonance ;) Need your help here, all of you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 05, 2012, 06:21:10 AM

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=19880712&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=US&NR=4757419A&KC=A&ND=4 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=19880712&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=US&NR=4757419A&KC=A&ND=4)

during each energy absorbing duty cycle process you will need to convert and use or store( =take away from )process
ergo o=1l/r circuit +o=1r/l circuit=8 eternity ,the oxo =osso=bone cycle : in search the v-gate)
this win part or it will over-charge your device:

Im-(compression 2micro)or explosion(expansion 2macro),depends from peripetal or zentrifugal force vector.

About this behaviour:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=FR&NR=667647A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19291018&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=FR&NR=667647A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19291018&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

Hello Oracion,I would not be a friend of N.Teslas idea to store this energy on this way,
cause our earth rock structure is not everywhere the same, geo-tectonical stress reaction would occur ,
and by leckage the cellular nature in us and out of us would be stronglier influenced as under today conditions with the unvisible -micro-life and ,over the time also makro-life-modifying/modulating handy-phones EM-waves array.

New Wave Era
Babe
: Klon
Hello,Dolly sheep,but not cheap
Helo Kiddy sweet kid ,but not natural

Fleischmann/Pons-flask:
Re-agenz-Tube,Petri-Nutrient-Schale to create artificial life/lives
like the seamonkeyes
Living water- Plasma - cold Plasma- EM Plasma - Phyto Plasma- Flaganellen

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on August 05, 2012, 08:52:21 AM

HHHMMmmm

Well I just have to say one thing !!

Tito
"Thanks for getting me in trouble""[over at the other guys thread]

And

Forest
Thank you for being a "good guy" ,seems to be rubbing off on Tito!

Dad always says to "live by example"!!
Thx
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 05, 2012, 09:07:57 AM

I like Tito very much and miss his funny face ;D ;D ;D
I feel full of ambient energy , need a small reactor to catch it, but every mosfets like to blow from current peak, even self made igbt ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 05, 2012, 09:28:56 AM

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&IN=keiichiro+asaoka&ST=advanced&compact=false (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&IN=keiichiro+asaoka&ST=advanced&compact=false)

extraction a.: an energy amplifier
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=18&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990720&CC=US&NR=5926083A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=18&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990720&CC=US&NR=5926083A&KC=A)

and this the Mosaic from the "Artificial Seed ..." Publikation
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=WO&NR=2008015790A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20080207&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on August 05, 2012, 09:32:27 AM

Quote from: forest on August 05, 2012, 04:20:16 AM
here is the question : is there a difference when capacitor is charged from current source or from inductive collapse of coil ?!!!!! :o

A capacitor functions by storing and releasing electric charge.
This charge can come from any source.

If anyone thinks there is a difference when a cap is charged from a "current source" or from an inductive collapse.... I will suggest that they look at two identical capacitors, one charged to a certain voltage with a "current source" like a battery or power supply, and another charged to that same voltage by an inductive collapse. What differences do you expect? How can you tell which one was charged by what method?

In a resonant condition, or a classical RLC ringdown, the capacitor is charging at one polarity, then discharging, then recharging _at the opposite polarity_ to a slightly lower voltage, then discharging, then recharging to the original polarity with a little voltage loss.... and so on until all the voltage is "lost" as power is dissipated by RF radiation and as heat in the circuit's resistances. If something replaces this little power that's "lost" in every oscillation, then the resonance can continue at constant or even increasing voltage, as the cap charges, discharges, switches polarity, and continues on.

The cap neither knows nor cares where its charge is coming from.... but it does care about frequency, pulse risetime, and voltage. These parameters will vary, between a DC "current source" and an AC inductive collapse waveform.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 05, 2012, 10:14:31 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on August 05, 2012, 09:32:27 AM

A capacitor functions by storing and releasing electric charge.
This charge can come from any source.

If anyone thinks there is a difference when a cap is charged from a "current source" or from an inductive collapse.... I will suggest that they look at two identical capacitors, one charged to a certain voltage with a "current source" like a battery or power supply, and another charged to that same voltage by an inductive collapse. What differences do you expect? How can you tell which one was charged by what method?

In a resonant condition, or a classical RLC ringdown, the capacitor is charging at one polarity, then discharging, then recharging _at the opposite polarity_ to a slightly lower voltage, then discharging, then recharging to the original polarity with a little voltage loss.... and so on until all the voltage is "lost" as power is dissipated by RF radiation and as heat in the circuit's resistances. If something replaces this little power that's "lost" in every oscillation, then the resonance can continue at constant or even increasing voltage, as the cap charges, discharges, switches polarity, and continues on.

The cap neither knows nor cares where its charge is coming from.... but it does care about frequency, pulse risetime, and voltage. These parameters will vary, between a DC "current source" and an AC inductive collapse waveform.

Thank you ,but I saw differences in discharge of capacitor charged with radiant energy and with current and with static charge. A lot of different effects. A capacitor charged from radiant energy gives blue or green blast, with static charge like white or blue and both seems not affect metal used to discharge path. In opposite side : capacitor charged with current gives a blast with a lit of sparks comming and a damage to contacts.
I wish only that collapsing spike from coil will give me radiant like discharge from charged capacitor. Main point is my conviction that such bals could be passed via mosfets while ordinary huge current will definately blow them.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on August 05, 2012, 10:51:53 AM

hm
Well ....if you interesting about details, there is simple difference betwen charging capacitor from induction discharge and from hard battery source.

From coil, it is very short impulse which quickly fall, when voltage on capacitor is rising, so there is point where voltage on capacitor is letsay 10v when voltage from coil is on that time on 20v when the spike begins at letsay 60v, so the power which moves charges is at that time just 10v when on beginning was difference 60v applied on capacitor, thus this fall is falling also effeciency of charging.
From Hard battery there is no fall on voltage, so its actually little better.
To reach best effectivity on charging capacitor form inductive spike, you must chose value of capacity just right to absorb most of the energy from spike, when too big...then the spike falls even quicker, when too small ..it will just charge capacitor to maximum voltage and when it is done, rest energy in coil will by just radiated and lost.
Mainly it seems to me, in inductive case, best is to charge capacitor on desired value just with one single pulse, or at least smalest possible nubers of pulses, any next puls applied to capacitor which is already charged to some value will transfer just part of energy when rest is radiated.after charging it from single puls it is needed to transfer it somwhere els to secure empy capacitor redy for next puls.

I am little wondering about what you writte about difference betwen discharging capacitor from different charging source, in past I was trying several experiments but I never see any difference in later discharge. After using different way of charging, in experiments you talking about, are you using same capacitor in all three cases?same value of capacity.

I am also little curious about your wondering about amount of current when discharging capacitor in series with battery, tension force from the capacitor simply pulling another current from battery until the capacitor is neutralised. It is like connectiong two batteries in way they are in direct short ciruit. So they will explode if you do that. (or if you will use sufficiently large capacitor)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 05, 2012, 10:54:31 AM

Not only quenco/quentron questions,it is about quantum mechanics

1cmÂ²x mym:
how many transistores/condensators/dots/generators-capacitors
http://www.inventor-strategies.com/solar-power-technology.html (http://www.inventor-strategies.com/solar-power-technology.html)
stores a
photo-/phono-voltaic cell array on one f.e.1/10.000 mm sputted/printed n-p-layer with 1cmÂ² area ?

how much wholes/caverns/channels exist through this layer ?

1cmÂ²xcm = 1cmÂ³
as pack-age/stack-assembly/battery with 1cmÂ³ volume :
how many : now ?

Which source let 1 quantum =gyro-dot generator /-array uni-directional working ?
How strong is this force and exists the formula to calculate the output for each one
and -consequently- as array ?

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=43&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19981224&CC=DE&NR=19726142A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=43&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19981224&CC=DE&NR=19726142A1&KC=A1)

The answer is also here inside: SEIKO Kinetiks AUTOMATIC
and to think about "conditioning" and relativity of forces,nanometrical sphere . .

From the above "www.inventors-strategies (http://www.inventors-strategies) .... " concentrating the attention to the sentence of this
24h-nonstop- solar-voltaic- converter (TPV) from M.I.T. scientist Celanovic :
".......absorb varying wavelength....."
it is not a photon-trap !
It is a photon-kinetic motion ,photon-wind(-force),converter

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 05, 2012, 01:20:45 PM

Quote from: forest on August 05, 2012, 09:07:57 AM
I like Tito very much and miss his funny face ;D ;D ;D
I feel full of ambient energy , need a small reactor to catch it, but every mosfets like to blow from current peak, even self made igbt ;)

http://www.worldtrans.org/spir/neuro.html (http://www.worldtrans.org/spir/neuro.html) inside the US-3.........construction plan for your small reactor to "become catched" or "phoned" by somebody 8)

the same principle,now defining this as FM THETA device, 'hyp(g)nosis' ;)
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=41&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990921&CC=US&NR=5954630A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=41&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990921&CC=US&NR=5954630A&KC=A)
2. description of the prior art : potential differences, vulgo "waves"

this is a capacitive -wire-less- (different frequenz-color-spektrum) wave generating and radiating(=emitting) instrument for our "well-ness-age"-society ,

With the potential to heal and/or to destroy

Forest, I am in the SPACE -, dem RAUMZEIT- ,the australian Aborrigines call this DREAM Time -Age-Zeit, you not ?
ZEITGEISTresearch

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 06, 2012, 12:51:10 AM

Thanks for the bito info Teets.

Just reading it over again. ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 06, 2012, 04:33:01 AM

;D
Be like Tesla everyone: using only one bullet to accomplish two things hmmmmmm, very clever isn't it?

and it is much more better if you can be more than tesla ;) 8) :o :P

cron ;D

hahahahahahaaahhahahahahhahhahahahahhaahhaahhahaha

@ chet you fight him i'll help you bro. you tell me whose doing that to you i'll $#@$$$$$$$#!@%$#%$#^^*%*&^%% him

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 06, 2012, 04:41:45 AM

Quote from: forest on August 05, 2012, 09:07:57 AM
I like Tito very much and miss his funny face ;D ;D ;D
I feel full of ambient energy , need a small reactor to catch it, but every mosfets like to blow from current peak, even self made igbt ;)

Catching for what? to know me for what. >:(

oh i guess you want to know if i really have it or what? >:(

as what i have said i don't have a full knowledge in electricity or formal education in electricity, but i thank God and really wondering why HE gave it to me.

just really an experience. ;)

don't you feel how i dissect any man's work, i guess its different from you,not being boastful but its different, you can sense that. >:(
its like how einstein re-examine physics. its weird hmmmmm 8)

;D
;D
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 06, 2012, 04:59:47 AM

@ LancaIV

what is your problem? i think your sick! your messing my thread. >:(

i think you need a capacitor, and i'll charge you inductively ;D

You want square! then i'll match you to chet ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on August 06, 2012, 05:57:41 AM

Crazy Teets is back! Like this icon ;D ! Hehehe...

Why is lancaIV's post are like that, hard to understand... >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 06, 2012, 07:27:16 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 06, 2012, 04:59:47 AM
@ LancaIV

what is your problem? i think your sick! your messing my thread. >:(

i think you need a capacitor, and i'll charge you inductively ;D

You want square! then i'll match you to chet ;D

;D

Mr.Tito L. Oracion, I am learning.
ENERGY AMPLIFICATION is the subjekt.
I read your and from others the thread input -no ranks and no titles importance- think and change the meanings -thinking border free- and offer -open minded- to see the educated human reactions.

Einen Schoppen in die eine Hand,den Schoppenhauer in der anderen und einen strategischen outlook:
"At first they are laughing.
Then ........."

Sincerely
CdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 06, 2012, 07:36:09 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on August 06, 2012, 05:57:41 AM
Crazy Teets is back! Like this icon ;D ! Hehehe...

Why is lancaIV's post are like that, hard to understand... >:(

complexity is a hard detailed -not to speak from a damned devil >:( - bitch :-[ , Sire !
Analytics ist the solution ??? .
But also icons have mission inside -you know so I hope ! ;)
And I know that you have months,years,dekades long and enough time to see the ENERGY AMPLIFIKATION onside and outside your body and inside your body also : in your mind.

ENERGY AMPLIFIKATION ,other 'normal people' call this simply: growth ;D
Humans call the final stage adultry, so I think.

With my kindliest regards ::)
CdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on August 06, 2012, 08:05:44 AM

Lanca IV
I see you are trying to share things about ELF the human mind and such.
there is no doubt ELF [extra low frequency ] is very special for us low budget experimenters.

while it may also have benefits for the mind in certain venues .

PLEASE BE CAREFUL BUD !
You could "Sizzle your Nizzle"!
Thx
Chet
PS
"TeetStein"
how's about a little humility bro ?
This is your "At Bat".. others before you have chosen the same route as you [selfish and grandiose ]
But that's gonna change.....................:.}

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 07, 2012, 11:11:26 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 05, 2012, 02:23:06 AM

In a single isolated transformer, we have the primary and secondary, now the primary is connected to the source, because of the effect of primary the secondary power is generated without connection to the primary, its a clear gain in the secondary is it not?

its just 1 +1 equals = free energy

In battery and 1 cap: charge the cap then connect them in series you get more volts than the source is it not?

Ok, if we charge a cap with a battery, 12v, then put the cap in series with a load, we have 24v, and diminishing, into the load. But isnt it all of the time, in this process that the battery is putting out power?
First we are charging the cap with the battery(taking from the battery), then in series combo with the cap, the battery has to pump out more power, due to the higher current through the circuit because the voltage has been doubled to the specified load. ???

Its hard to see any advantage to it. :o ;D

And speaking of the input to a primary and the output to a secondary, something makes me wonder.

We could arrange a single half cycle rectifier on the secondary output to a cap, 2 ways.

1 way, when the primary gets its pulse input, the secondary rectifier is setup to charge the cap, in phase with the primary input. So the immediate load on the secondary would draw more from the source through the primary, during the input pulse.

Another way is to arrange the output rectifier so that it does not conduct in phase with the input pulse. So the cap gets charged when the input pulse ends and the field collapse reverses and then charges the cap.

It seems odd that in both situations that there is near good efficiency results. In the first example, the primary and secondary fluxes act with each other, and in the second example, they dont. Yet we get similar results in efficiency. Strange. :o ;)

MaGs :o :o ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 08, 2012, 01:00:16 AM

Quote from: IWD on August 05, 2012, 10:51:53 AM

I am also little curious about your wondering about amount of current when discharging capacitor in series with battery, tension force from the capacitor simply pulling another current from battery until the capacitor is neutralised. It is like connectiong two batteries in way they are in direct short ciruit. So they will explode if you do that. (or if you will use sufficiently large capacitor)

Well, it doesnt work like that. First we charge the cap, then series with the battery, then, apply the load(resistive) and the cap ends up charged to the source voltage in the opposite polarity of the initial charge. ;] Now, instead of recharging the cap for another go, we just flip it over and discharge again.

Just thinking about it. I dont know if there is an advantage yet. Because we are still pulling more current from the battery than with the battery alone, with each discharge.

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 08, 2012, 01:54:22 AM

Subject :Re:ENERGY AMPLIFIKATION K=C=Z=T=G= ...... for learning insider

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3&FT=D&ND=3&date=19940318&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3&FT=D&ND=3&date=19940318&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

first doing the maths,geo-metr-ical and al-gebra-ical -virtual/abstract included all the rules/laws complexity
l/r r/l

theoria the'ory T'ory
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
then the trial-and-error-experiment - virtual/abstract Software and Softwire/Softwind
Realita I
artificial/concret Hardware and Hardwire/Hardwind
Realita II
praxis practica Labour
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Tito ( Brozs ?) Ora-et-labora-tion : I am not messing the dizendo : su-ge/ escribo Subject
I am messing the dizendo : au-ge/ escribo Object actually

There is a game the construction

and there are gamers the user

and there is a
Yuri the time

the orie and the labour : der Baum der Erkenntnis, naemlich der Stammbaum ;)
Lex-ikon about ;) : I allgemeine RT =double-deutig
II spezifische RT =joke der 4.Dimension haha-Tito , I like more Titt...... :-[

Lex-...... : censored ,Elders reviewed :P

Wmkr,
CdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 14, 2012, 03:35:56 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on August 07, 2012, 11:11:26 PM
Ok, if we charge a cap with a battery, 12v, then put the cap in series with a load, we have 24v, and diminishing, into the load. But isnt it all of the time, in this process that the battery is putting out power?
First we are charging the cap with the battery(taking from the battery), then in series combo with the cap, the battery has to pump out more power, due to the higher current through the circuit because the voltage has been doubled to the specified load. ???

Its hard to see any advantage to it. :o ;D

And speaking of the input to a primary and the output to a secondary, something makes me wonder.

We could arrange a single half cycle rectifier on the secondary output to a cap, 2 ways.

1 way, when the primary gets its pulse input, the secondary rectifier is setup to charge the cap, in phase with the primary input. So the immediate load on the secondary would draw more from the source through the primary, during the input pulse.

Another way is to arrange the output rectifier so that it does not conduct in phase with the input pulse. So the cap gets charged when the input pulse ends and the field collapse reverses and then charges the cap.

It seems odd that in both situations that there is near good efficiency results. In the first example, the primary and secondary fluxes act with each other, and in the second example, they dont. Yet we get similar results in efficiency. Strange. :o ;)

MaGs :o :o ;D

In one switching we can charge more than one caps in parallel and in one switching we can arrange them in series, supposedly if we have three bats then doing that to other bats then discharging those lifted up volts sequentially.

we can actually do it in one bats only ok!

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 16, 2012, 12:03:03 AM

Ok Teets. Just thought of something and gunna put it out there before I try it. ;]

As we were talking about this earlier, I wasnt thinking of a large cap. I was also thinking that the cap fully discharges.

But if it were a large cap, pre charged by the battery, then in series with the battery, then we discharge just a bit of the high voltage of the batt in series with the cap, into a coil, then let the coil dump into just the battery. The all we need to do is replenish the cap from the battery with the little we used.

The battery will lose energy when charging the cap, but it only has to fill it from empty once. From there it is just topping off.

The battery will also lose energy when discharging into the coil while in series with the equally charged cap.

When initially charging the cap and in topping off, it is probably a good idea to make the transfer from the battery to the cap, through a coil, as to not lose 50% of what the battery discharged while charging the cap directly.

UGh I dunno. I gotta get some sleeps.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 16, 2012, 12:08:41 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 14, 2012, 03:35:56 AM

In one switching we can charge more than one caps in parallel and in one switching we can arrange them in series, supposedly if we have three bats then doing that to other bats then discharging those lifted up volts sequentially.

we can actually do it in one bats only ok!

;D

Well with 3 batteries, do we need any caps at all? Cant we just put 2 batts in series then pulse 1 with the 2, then sequentially switch the batteries around and repeating?

Seems like just shuffling energy around, and we havnt done any work yet. ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 16, 2012, 02:28:49 AM

Magluvin,
to your question an easy,soft thinking,answer:
virtually and naturally you can transform your idea of this battery cycle,this is not the question,
but what will be the result/-s ;) ?

Sincerely
CdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on August 16, 2012, 09:33:52 PM

Mags, FWIW --
My take on this. There's a battery, cap in series, coil...
I think you're right about energy being just transferred around, unless something is added to help the dipole to rapidly open and close. I think a reed switch, properly aligned with a neo, to act as a spark gap, might do the trick here; there are a couple of other ways I can think of as well. Once this happens, then the battery isn't just an energy source, but also a kind of aerial for radiant energy, rushing in to restore the balance after the discharge out of the coil and over the gap in the reed switch. In this sense, the radiant energy's influx will replenish the battery, enabling it to continuously deliver thru the circuit. In fact, this action should condition the battery, making it more efficient to charge (and deliver) this way.
Mrs. Smith has me on a pretty gruelling honey-do list bender, and I don't have time to work on this idea, but maybe it'll help move the ball down the field a bit.
All the best to you and Sir Teets :)
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 16, 2012, 11:59:43 PM

Hey Lanca and Bob

Lanca

I do a lot of work on the bench. Sometimes it gets tiring. Im sure most go through that.

But then I come back all fulla OU jitters. ;] But it is good to take a break here n there.

Its the late nights that git me. In between bench time I spend time here also.

Lets see, Sleep, eat, work, work and work, eat then sleep again. ;]

Hey Bob

i will try some of these things.

If the sequential battery switching(3 batts) does prove good, maybe its not a radiant energy event. Was just thinking about this at work all day and thought of a few things.

I read where some say "well where do the extra electrons come from if there is more energy out?" Something like that. I find that to be a statement of misunderstanding.

In the case of a battery, if it is charging, where are the extra electrons coming from to charge the battery? From the charger?

No, they come from the + side of the battery. The charger just pumps them from the + to the - . And if the charger runs on AC wall current, then the electrons that are available at the chargers input are just moved back and forth. they never see the circuit, and most chargers/power supplies, linear or switching are isolated from in to out.

I get the advantages of Gnd. I see the Gnd as a source of electrons, and a place to put them. When considering lets say a 10uf cap, a 1 farad cap and finally the Earth, think of the Earth as the same as just 1 leg of the caps also being considered here.

If we take some electrons and force some into the - lead of the 10uf cap, not doing anything with the + lead of the cap, then a charge will build in the cap. The + side of the cap, though it didnt lose or take on any electrons, will be positive in polarity vs the pumped up - side of the cap.

We see this in the function of the AV plug, where the HV open ended HF secondary pumps electrons in one side of the cap and sucks them out of the other, one side of the cap at a time for each half cycle of the HF open ended secondary. If we ground the open side of the sec, the cap will charge faster, because instead of electrons being compressed from one end of the secondary winding to the other, the earth relieves that pressure buildup on the open end of the secondary. The cap lead side of the secondary is still compressing and decompressing.

As the open ended secondary is pumping the AV plug, the open end of the sec gets decompressed, depleted of electrons and then compressed again, so the tension built in the sec winding only has the amount of electrons in the capacitor and the winding to work with. All limited by the pressures presented by the open ended secondary, which isnt much. ;]

But with a Gnd on the open end of the sec, we relieved the tension. Now the open end of the winding doesnt get depleted of electrons, nor compressed full of them, because the Earth is easily willing to take and give them, because potential differences are nill while doing so. So now the winding has more in reserve to not become depleted on the open end while pumping into the cap on the other end, nor too compressed when taking electrons from the other side of the cap. This allows more electrons to be pumped in and out of the cap faster, by using the earth as a place to put them, and take them, without potentials building opposing the flow of currents. So we get more in and out of the cap via the AV plug using a gnd on the open end of the sec..
But, with the addition of the gnd to the open end of the sec, we also increase the current flow in the winding, which causes the input to increase. The gnd increases activity, but not just on the output. ;] Not near as much as a ull load on the sec, but much more than open.

But we probably are not even close to a full charge on the cap, charged 1 legged, mostly because the potential difference charged into the cap, builds up and presses back at more incoming from the 1 legged pump. The caps potentials equalize to the input and a full charge, with this 1 legged method is complete for discharge and start over.

Now the 1 farad cap, we can pump way more into its - lead, again 1 legged, than the 10uf cap. But that potential will build also. But it will take longer and store more. And the higher that potential gets, the less there can be pumped in as it builds, till finally the - lead wont take any more, unless the pumps pressure is raised higher.

Now we have our Earth Gnd. With our little circuits, we probably could not measure how much charge is built in the earth by pumping electrons into it. At least not a measurement from the opposite end of the planet, with all the activity that is going on all around us.. ;] So pumping electrons into the earth should be the easiest place to put them, being that the charge that we created in the Earth really didnt change much potentially in reference to the circuit, so not much potential charge to oppose the pump.
And equally, we can take some electrons form the Earth, probably easier than anything else.

The earth is 1 leg of a capacitor, and the atmosphere is the +. The higher we go in the atmosphere, the higher potential in reference to Gnd.

If we have a circuit that is grounded, but no antenna, thats not to say that some part of that circuit isnt connected capacitively to the atmosphere. lol, if its here and above water or land, it is.

So cool, we have this large venue that we can pump electrons to and from. But how does that help us? This huge capacitor, is already charged. So I suppose that if we use this huge capacitor, it is probably a good place to get free charge any time. But who is going to let us build towers to connect to the higher voltage atmosphere? Heck, in Oregon, a man has reservoirs on 'his land', and the Gov is telling him the rain that falls in his reserves is not his. :o And I bet the charge in that huge cap is not ours to use either. :o :o

So, all in all, if we have our 3 batteries and a switching circuit that puts 2 in series and pulses the 3rd batt, sequentially switching them around, and if it works, then I dont really see involvement of radiant energy really, and no extra electrons are necessary either, because we are just pumping them from + to - of the batteries terminals, sucking them from the + and pumping them to the - . So what would we gain from the introduction of more electrons, or how does radiant energy fit in here? ;)

Like, if there is only so many electrons that we can take from the + terminal and pump into the - terminal till we are 'at full charge' , adding electrons would mean adding them to the positive side(where they are least), because the - side is full. and if we do this, our charge is going to be down from full, because the adding of electrons to the + side will reduce polar potential. So, I dont really see where extra electrons are beneficial, not yet anyways.

And the radiant energy. How do we know its there? How do we measure it? Or is it just a name for something that is just not real, to explain something else that is not understood or just fallacy? ;]

So I almost always look for logical explanations first. I will usually lead you to whether someones idea is a fake or a mistake. Havnt had a need to have radiant energy be an explanation, yet. No OU to explain it with, Yet. ;]

Not degrading your post Bob. ;] just thinking out loud. ;] And I know you didnt say anything of extra electrons. It was just part of my whole thoughts for the day and relating to Earth gnd and such. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 17, 2012, 08:26:55 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 06, 2012, 04:59:47 AM
@ LancaIV

what is your problem? i think your sick! your messing my thread. >:(

i think you need a capacitor, and i'll charge you inductively ;D

You want square! then i'll match you to chet ;D

;D

roflol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 17, 2012, 08:50:32 AM

No! just do not connect the ends together but the end of the primary and the beginning of the secondary and serve as a waiter kicker converter

This lets you collect the current side of the collapsing fields are you catching the voltage side with freewheeling diode.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 17, 2012, 09:45:57 AM

I wonder

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on August 17, 2012, 10:57:06 AM

Great post, Mags! I see where you're coming from with your references to the electron pumping and AV plug. I'll have to read it a few more times and ponder it as I put together Mrs. Smith's barbecue - somewhere between the nuts, bolts, widgets and thingys, maybe a light will go on. I appreciate that you're synthesizing a huge amount of reading (shades of Don Smith?), experience and bench time - much more than I have.

I find myself drawn to the AV plug and electron pump idea, but I'm not sure they're the only way to skin this cat. As I understand, the electron pump thru a ground-connected AV plug is a viable way to draw in a steady and infinite source of electrons. JL Naudin and others (Georgia on my mind...) have shown this, I think.

Dave, I always enjoy your posts - will have to ponder this last one while assembling Mrs. Smith's bbq as well. I sense your approach might be closer in nature to what I was thinking, as per RE capture, I see the merit of a secondary for the purposes you mention, however, I wonder if the spark gap and its discharge might accomplish a similar function - perhaps we're all barking up the same tree, but choosing to climb it from varying sides to access different individual apples with the same refreshing flavour - ooh, electrifying! :)

All this said, I can't help but think back to some of Tesla's patent drawings, where a disruptive discharge seems to be a key factor in drawing in RE. Again, many ways to skin a cat - all share the same energy source, which is the sun.

I would offer one parting thought - the "switch" in these last few pages, to my thinking is just a diode - which properly placed would allow batteries or caps to be, for example, charged in parallel and discharged in series.

The barby beckons...
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 17, 2012, 10:41:36 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on August 16, 2012, 12:08:41 AM
Well with 3 batteries, do we need any caps at all? Cant we just put 2 batts in series then pulse 1 with the 2, then sequentially switch the batteries around and repeating?

Seems like just shuffling energy around, and we havnt done any work yet. ;]

MaGs

Sometimes we need 3 bats for a good timing purposes. two bats is like a ping pong, but if 3, one has time for perfect relaxation and recover from the last little discharged. ;)

as i am having relaxation here in my vicinity making some swimming in the flood with the lots of bacterias, leftospirosis and viruses, but wait there's more, some electrocuted being in some areas, wow its really fun here in the
Philippines :D , hahahahaha, i think i need a relief, could you give me everyone please :'( lol

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 17, 2012, 10:54:46 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 17, 2012, 08:50:32 AM
No! just do not connect the ends together but the end of the primary and the beginning of the secondary and serve as a waiter kicker converter

This lets you collect the current side of the collapsing fields are you catching the voltage side with freewheeling diode.

;D

You really have a good smelling nose isn't it hmmmm? lol :D

okkk!
Here is my best tip that i can give.
for the world, we only need a strong momentary energy field ! >:( and caps plays a major role.

GET A GOOD PULSER OR CHOOSE A GOOD PULSER.

good luck everyone. 8)

LET IT FLOW OK! >:(

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 17, 2012, 10:58:11 PM

I BELIEVE MAGS WILL GET IT NOW. ;)

OR YOU'RE JUST FOOLING ME AND KNOW IT ALREADY LONG TIME AGO. ???

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 18, 2012, 01:35:09 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 17, 2012, 10:58:11 PM
I BELIEVE MAGS WILL GET IT NOW. ;)

OR YOU'RE JUST FOOLING ME AND KNOW IT ALREADY LONG TIME AGO. ???

;D ;D ;D

I wish. Really.

I said this the other day. Somewhere. There are probably many that have come close, but many dont get it all the way. I see that you think its silly that I dont have it yet. But as you can see, many dont have it yet. look around. ;)

So its not so silly. Its a fact.

I just keep truckin along. ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 18, 2012, 02:07:33 AM

Thanks Bob

The av plug is interesting. Like I explained the pumping action and the compression of electrons in the winding from one end to the other, the AV pumping action only has the amount of electrons in the winding and the caps plates, also the ones in the diodes ;], to work with.

So maybe a longer winding would get more pumped to the cap than the ones I have been using for experiments. Also if the wire is larger in diameter, then more electrons to move along the winding for compression and decompression from one end back to the other.

Like maybe the secondary of a microwave transformer. Very long wire. For every turn of that winding there is pressure added upon the compression and decompression also.

I have one im going to try tomorrow. The key to using an AV plug on an open ended secondary, is that it wont spoil the primary resonance like when loading the secondary normally. Like an ignition coil in a car with a mechanical points system, they have a cap, about .47uf 100v across the switch points. With points closed, the primary of the ign coil builds a field(no spark yet). When the points open, the cap and primary resonate and we have a nice spark from the secondary. Without that cap, we get a very weak spark, more like a pip that barely wants to jump an eighth of an inch. You can even see with the naked eye, that the spark made with the cap seems to be more than just a single pip. The duration of the spark is definitely longer than without the cap, of which you can literally seem to see that there is just a single one directional spark.

So with the MOT, I will try this method. Ill need to put some diodes in series for each leg of the AV plug. Then see if it pumps more than these tiny neon transformer secondaries , from scanner light tubes in scanner/printers. The transformer is all but 1in x 1in x 1/2in, so not near as many electrons to pump there.

Ill try small caps at first to try to get a HF oscillation, of which will charge the cap faster, I think. ;]]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: penno64 on August 18, 2012, 02:55:40 AM

Mags,

I am looking to complete a puzzle.

Still, to this day, I continue to tinker with Romeros wheel. Currently, having setup one only coil pair as generator and
ensuring they are bucking, I get from them just about nil. That much I follow.

If we bias them with rear magnets, we can collect a resonable amount of both voltage and milliamps.

The puzzle is -

if you pump this into a DC cap, it fills to a particular level - fine, that makes sense.

but if you manually disconnect and connect one leg from the coil pair, you can get the cap to pump up
to a much higher voltage.

Why ?

Penno

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 18, 2012, 03:36:18 AM

hey Pen

are your bias mags in attraction or repelling the rotor mags?

Hmm, you get more when you periodically disconnect? Can you post the circuit you are using and show the disconnect point/s ?

Have you scoped out the differences?

Sounds interesting. First there was shorting, now let go. ;] It could be some sort of initial shock when the lenz kicks in while the mag fields are swiping the pickups.

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 18, 2012, 07:21:56 AM

I dont know if you guys read my ramblings over on energetic, but I finally see whats happening and how to draw energy from the magnetic field, it takes six coils to make free energy, the number of man.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/9656-electric-field-magnet-35.html#post204829
start here and read till the end.
Like Tito says connect the end of the primary's to the beginning of the secondary's
Make the world free
Help the poor
dave

Mags I believe you can do this.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 18, 2012, 07:35:45 AM

You dont have to drive the system with high voltage, SM did it with a nine volt battery and flip flop circuit, I dont know if he ever looped the system but you really dont have to using two batteries one charging one running the system and change them when depleted.
But then again you guys will figure it out, I believe in you.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 18, 2012, 07:41:51 AM

I believe it can be done Don Smith style, winding on two inch pvc, air coils, but that remains to be seen,
SM put his circuitry in the center of the toroid, this kept his circuitry out of the electric field that orbits the toroid, dont know if this will be a problem with the Don Smith setup or not.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 18, 2012, 07:25:40 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 18, 2012, 07:21:56 AM
I dont know if you guys read my ramblings over on energetic, but I finally see whats happening and how to draw energy from the magnetic field, it takes six coils to make free energy, the number of man.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/9656-electric-field-magnet-35.html#post204829 (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/9656-electric-field-magnet-35.html#post204829)
start here and read till the end.
Like Tito says connect the end of the primary's to the beginning of the secondary's
Make the world free
Help the poor
dave

Mags I believe you can do this.

hey Dave

I apparently have an acct at energetic, but I cant do anything. Im logged in, but no privilege to read your thread. I have not been there in a long time.

maybe you can post something here. ;]

I can see how attaching the open end of the sec to the primary will affect the output. But if I attach it to anything, the output is affected. Maybe attaching to 1 particular leg has a different effect than the other? Or attaching to the primary affects the transformer as a whole, capacitive effect?

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 18, 2012, 10:32:46 PM

If you'll bare with me I start here http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/inductor1.htm (http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/inductor1.htm)

The reason for this strange behavior is the inductor. When current first starts flowing in the coil, the coil wants to build up a magnetic field. While the field is building, the coil inhibits the flow of current. Once the field is built, current can flow normally through the wire. When the switch gets opened, the magnetic field around the coil keeps current flowing in the coil until the field collapses. This current keeps the bulb lit for a period of time even though the switch is open. In other words, an inductor can store energy in its magnetic field, and an inductor tends to resist any change in the amount of current flowing through it.

The inductor stores energy in its magnetic field it comes back to source in the form of bemf (high voltage) but also moves forward femf in the form of high current to keep the light bulb lit after the switch is open.

I developed a magnetic field model long ago so I figured if it held water I should be able to tell what was happening by looking at the model.
I realized the inductor not only stores energy in its magnetic field but also separates the voltage from the current in the form of cw and ccw fields.
So what happens when the inductor is shut off the bemf (high voltage) comes back to source the femf (high current) moves forward into source.
I thought this is why high voltage is easy to collect but current is hard to collect because it runs on to source, so I started looking at the tank circuit but realized every time the energy is collected in the cap and released back through the inductor the same problem occurs the magnetic field builds the voltage come back and current follows on through.
I studied on this for awhile and it was something Tito said over on the Ali thread that made a lot of sense, connect the end of the primary to the beginning of the secondary, this way the current runs on into the secondary.
I pondered this for awhile then remembered I was playing with a cw winging and ccw winding on a iron core and noticed if both coils were powered from the center the poles stayed the same they didnt switch, so I started looking at this in relation to the magnetic field and its cw and ccw storage system and realized if one coil was cw its bemf would be voltage and its femf would be current and the other coil ccw its bemf would be current and its femf would be voltage, the poles never change.
I have always been a big fan of Leedskalnin and long ago realized any free energy device would have to have the shorted coils that make his pmh work, they create a standing field that can be drained from.

This is getting long winded so I will cut to the chase
wind one coil trifilar cw
wind another coil trifilar ccw
first wire on each coil set is the primary
second wire on each coil set connected as per leedskalnin's pmh - shorted coils
the last wire on each coil set is the secondary one will put out voltage the other current
Ok we want our voltage and current to be out of phase so we need to drive the coil sets out of phase, we can do this with the flip flop circuit.
Connect the end of the primary's in each coil set to the beginning of the secondary's in each coil set, thanks Tito.

The system will pull energy from the magnetic field naturally without flipping the poles or breaking the dipole.
I did some experiments with ice long ago and realized that the electric field wants to be parallel to the earth, build the coils in a vertical orientation.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 18, 2012, 10:38:34 PM

If wound on a toroid we have the TPU. ;)
SM powered his TPU with a nine volt battery and the flip flop circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 18, 2012, 10:53:44 PM

The shorted coils catch the bemf from the opposite primary, one shorted coil will produce a voltage standing wave and the other shorted coil will produce a current standing wave both will be above the appropriate coil set and will add to the femf of each coil set.
The system will work naturally with the magnetic fields and will pump energy out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 18, 2012, 10:55:58 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 18, 2012, 10:32:46 PM
I studied on this for awhile and it was something Tito said over on the Ali thread that made a lot of sense, connect the end of the primary to the beginning of the secondary, this way the current runs on into the secondary.

Hey Dave. I have to read it over again. But is this like saying if we have 2 secondaries, one of high V and low A, and one of low V and high A, that if we connect them in series we end up with an output of high V and high A?

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 19, 2012, 12:22:51 AM

Iv studied this but have only got this far, Im not sure about the connections after the secondary's,
Im going to build this soon, experience is the best teacher.
Im not as good at electronics as you guy's but I will give it a go.
I see whats happening in the coil reactions, it will work.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 19, 2012, 12:54:50 AM

I have discovered much more better than the fluctuating energy.

The freely flows of electricity from the vacuum is really true and the advantage of it is that we are not anymore loosing switches and no spark or arching.

And the most better from it is that, we can doit in a very small quantity and unlimited strength.

here is the clue number 1:

if we got an increase then we should have to scruitinize that and lift that up ok?

that's all for now; ;)

otits L. Noicaro

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 19, 2012, 12:55:37 AM

Its late here gota get some sleep, tomorrow is a new day of discovery.
dave

night all

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 19, 2012, 01:07:03 AM

hi dave

i believe you are now one of the happiest experimenter in the world, am i right? ;)

whenever you got rich please remember me a little ok buddy? :D
i'm just here in the Philippines :D

goodluck and congratulation ;)

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 19, 2012, 02:39:03 AM

There is a publication from a Yugo-slawian habitant who told about the concept of a permanent monopol magnet
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19770825&CC=DE&NR=2644927A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19770825&CC=DE&NR=2644927A1&KC=A1) translation( en ingles ) above,right side
( Prof. Ehrenhaft-science)

2(f.e.cubes in)1: Monopolar momentum

And there is an american publication from a Mister Patten,double coil e-magnet.

And there is the inventor Thomas Townsend Brown whose used later instead of steel electrostatic attracting and retracting materials for example the core water which transforms themself in the flow at first to gas then to plasma
,HV-ionization typical but also "kings clothes" !? ( do not know what this means. Oil-tranked textile ?)).
(Never sawed how a good whiskey came out of the bottle ?
Flowing adhaerent the bottle surface and forming a ------- ? )
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&IN=thomas+townsend+brown&ST=advanced&compact=false (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&IN=thomas+townsend+brown&ST=advanced&compact=false)

And there is a publicaczion ( no cedilhe e no passarÃ¡ )e tentaczion filipina de un hombre appelando Ernesto Labuntog, trabachando na area de agua potavel,usefull for phillipine habitants but not only.

Boa noche nos PHP con comprimentos e bessamente da peninsula iberica,
CdL

p.s.: I did not find in the espacenet the Patten-e-double coil-magnet papers.Have to look in my personal archive.
Alternative : Danyel Charles BeauprÃ© old written ' resonance forming formula' and examples:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?PA=beaupre&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&ST=advanced&compact=false&PN=fr

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 19, 2012, 07:24:09 AM

good way Dave but I still can't grasp all those about femf ,backemf . In shorted coil world it is more simple.

Unfortunately this is all nice and simple on paper but building a prototype is a maddness. If you have no working prototype you are a nut wasting time and my wife is perpetually finding a lot of jobs to do which are more important then my "child play". Being unemployed I saddenly realized then I'm treated somethimes worse then the guys around the shop with alcohol drinking cheap wine and beer and accasionally looking for a simple job.

I'm burning from the desire to tell you all but I understand Tito and without prototype , patent and a good license aggrement with good financial reward my wife would not understand it. I want to build small factory and a lab all called "Tesla Park" in the special economic area quite near my village when we could all fully understand process and develop a working home heating units , 5 -10 -15 kW induction heaters and sonic heaters. Cheap replacement for coal stoves.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 19, 2012, 08:03:36 AM

My dear friends
I seek neither fame or fortune, I want to patent nothing
I want to help the poor
God is in control
dave

I am a poor man by American standards but I dont need or want much in this world, lay up your treasures in Heaven.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 19, 2012, 08:07:43 AM

I added the femf and bemf to the model it can be reversed

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 19, 2012, 08:41:54 AM

That's it! That was the long time open hidden secret of tesla.

And to dave you just need now some refinements and make it perfect as a challenge.

goodluck everyone ;)

i hope at least in my own little way, i have helped a little. :)

and for those buddies that i made them mad, so sorry. :)

Thank you very much to all and God bless :)

Tito L. Oracion ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on August 19, 2012, 09:19:07 AM

Dave
Quote:

My dear friends
I seek neither fame or fortune, I want to patent nothing
I want to help the poor
God is in control
dave

I am a poor man by American standards but I dont need or want much in this world, lay up your treasures in Heaven.
end quote;

Dave, this time it must be different Not "fame and fortune" like some people say.

But to "do the right thing" ............Just as you have said above!

God Bless you Brother!! and all the others here that have helped along the way!!

Thx Chet

PS Teets ,you whackadoodle .....its time to run the fridge on the watch battery !:.}

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 19, 2012, 09:23:48 AM

Tito,in Germany there is an Org for Basicsresearch "Grundlagenforschung" : Max-Planck-Institute and
there is an Org for applied basics "Angewandte Forschung": Fraunhofer-Institutsgruppe

and this here is portuguese "applied basics": Dave45 schema -double coiled e-magnets-concluded in a Rotor
,partial awarded,later monopol-right -lost caused -no pagamento-dos custos annuales( premios ? :-\ ),

They had only for a short moment the monopol in their hands !

I thought that this technician is the right guide to translate my thinking ::) 8) ;) :
come baby,let it rock and roll'in :o

SenhÃ´r Ferreira 'jorge' converted later common to own intentions ;D

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?PA=envez&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&ST=advanced&compact=false (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?PA=envez&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&ST=advanced&compact=false)
now open source

One other scientist Dr.Pavel Imris,Csc. with him I worked together-the project-operational part was mine-
( not technical/physical : in the real world outside this ecran I do not like either maths nor physic formulas,
to complicated and abstract :o ::) :) ) optimized the capacitive winding concept ,synthesizing an PM,
making it the-permant electric magnet- with flexible forcepotential for variable speed/variable input et cet.
for motor and rotative alternators open source

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20110609&CC=DE&NR=112009002191A5&KC=A5 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20110609&CC=DE&NR=112009002191A5&KC=A5)

p.s.: the mechanical way to explain and demonstrate the monopolar quenching from the force momentum is here : http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A)

if there is no more doubt there is no (great) evolution barrier :
PSI-Scientist C.G.Jung: Motiv-ation time-forcing factor:10 times Mariendorf ,Cz ;Human being analysis

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on August 19, 2012, 10:13:31 AM

Ola Lanca!

Is this the Patten patent you mentioned as double coil electromagnet? see this:

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=427606A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

If this is not the one you meant, please try to search for it in your personal collection if you do not mind, 8)

Greetings,
Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 19, 2012, 10:27:39 AM

Gyula, yes,this publication I meant. Thanks a lot to free me from long searching.
I was really surprised searching for this publication how good even under this family name 100 years before people made invention,also shocking one : Applicant:Patten Object: Insekts-Exterminator ;) 1913 ;) Arnieeeeeeee !

For each problem +/- one solution,or 2,3,...... .

I hope in Hungary is sommer 2 ?
Happy Sun-day and my greeting from ex-Galaecia
CdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on August 19, 2012, 12:56:55 PM

Lanca, thanks for the kind reply.

Yes many many things have been already known (invented) in the past lifetimes, during the centuries. This Patten patent is a clever implemantation of driving an electromagnet from AC current, to prevent the magnetic poles from changing as per the AC current would dictate and this was a novel way of doing it in the era when the DC 'world' was still alive and electromagnets were operated from DC sources.
I would like to understand what prompted you to mention this double coil electromagnet here, in connection with Dave45's postings? Because Dave described two trifilar coil setup and we are here to figure out extra energy and unfortunately I fail to connect your dots... could you hint some explanations?
The mechanical transmission gear with the 4 motor's torque summed into a single shaft is also a good solution, it can reduce power consumption but again I fail to see any other advantage. OF course, reduced power input is always a benefit, I agree.

Greetings,
Gyula

PS: we have hot weather with 33-34Â°C and it is forecast for next week too.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 19, 2012, 03:31:41 PM

Hey Dave

In the Utkin pdf's he seems to imply that having these opposing, oppositely wound coils in series and facing each other like you show on the previous page, that once you start the process in this config, that the oscillations build on their own and a spark gap is necessary to keep it from going to high on its own. :o

I have some pvc, wire and some 2.5in size flex loom stuff. The flex loom is like say plastic(no spiral wire, just plastic) vacuum cleaner hose(ribbed) split along the length. Ill use it to make consistent spacing between windings, like Don Smith coils.

Ive been meaning to try this for some time. Was just busy and more interested in what I have been doing.

Your drawing is not a Don Smith coil really, unless he has done it your way and I have not seen it, with the trifi windings. But the opposing coil concept is what he used.

Im going with your drawing first. I have no clue as to wire size or number of turns, so I will just wing it, equal on both sides.

Ok, gotta go get Bebe(my kitty) some food. If I just say food or hungry right now, she will MEEEEEEOOOOWWWW. ;] She has plenty of hard food and snacks, but she finished her soft food last night. I try to give her a balance. And shrimp a few nights a week. I can hardly cut them up for her as she will not stop rubbing and bumping my arm waiting for me to finish. I would give them to her whole, but she will take them elsewhere 1 at a time. I dont want that. ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 19, 2012, 11:27:08 PM

Quote from: ramset on August 19, 2012, 09:19:07 AM
Dave
Quote:

My dear friends
I seek neither fame or fortune, I want to patent nothing
I want to help the poor
God is in control
dave

I am a poor man by American standards but I dont need or want much in this world, lay up your treasures in Heaven.
end quote;

Dave, this time it must be different Not "fame and fortune" like some people say.

But to "do the right thing" ............Just as you have said above!

God Bless you Brother!! and all the others here that have helped along the way!!

Thx Chet

PS Teets ,you whackadoodle .....its time to run the fridge on the watch battery !:.}

you just asked dave, he will help you. ;)

:D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 19, 2012, 11:32:16 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on August 19, 2012, 09:23:48 AM
Tito,in Germany there is an Org for Basicsresearch "Grundlagenforschung" : Max-Planck-Institute and
there is an Org for applied basics "Angewandte Forschung": Fraunhofer-Institutsgruppe

and this here is portuguese "applied basics": Dave45 schema -double coiled e-magnets-concluded in a Rotor
,partial awarded,later monopol-right -lost caused -no pagamento-dos custos annuales( premios ? :-\ ),

They had only for a short moment the monopol in their hands !

I thought that this technician is the right guide to translate my thinking ::) 8) ;) :
come baby,let it rock and roll'in :o

SenhÃ´r Ferreira 'jorge' converted later common to own intentions ;D

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?PA=envez&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&ST=advanced&compact=false (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?PA=envez&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&ST=advanced&compact=false)
now open source

One other scientist Dr.Pavel Imris,Csc. with him I worked together-the project-operational part was mine-
( not technical/physical : in the real world outside this ecran I do not like either maths nor physic formulas,
to complicated and abstract :o ::) :) ) optimized the capacitive winding concept ,synthesizing an PM,
making it the-permant electric magnet- with flexible forcepotential for variable speed/variable input et cet.
for motor and rotative alternators open source

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20110609&CC=DE&NR=112009002191A5&KC=A5 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20110609&CC=DE&NR=112009002191A5&KC=A5)

p.s.: the mechanical way to explain and demonstrate the monopolar quenching from the force momentum is here : http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A)

if there is no more doubt there is no (great) evolution barrier :
PSI-Scientist C.G.Jung: Motiv-ation time-forcing factor:10 times Mariendorf ,Cz ;Human being analysis

Still don't get it huh ? :o

well, dave is much better than you, he is the only person here who grasp what i wan n mean a say. ;D lol

your not poor sorry dave won't help you ;D lol

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 20, 2012, 03:06:38 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on August 19, 2012, 03:31:41 PM
Hey Dave

In the Utkin pdf's he seems to imply that having these opposing, oppositely wound coils in series and facing each other like you show on the previous page, that once you start the process in this config, that the oscillations build on their own and a spark gap is necessary to keep it from going to high on its own. :o

I have some pvc, wire and some 2.5in size flex loom stuff. The flex loom is like say plastic(no spiral wire, just plastic) vacuum cleaner hose(ribbed) split along the length. Ill use it to make consistent spacing between windings, like Don Smith coils.

Ive been meaning to try this for some time. Was just busy and more interested in what I have been doing.

Your drawing is not a Don Smith coil really, unless he has done it your way and I have not seen it, with the trifi windings. But the opposing coil concept is what he used.

Im going with your drawing first. I have no clue as to wire size or number of turns, so I will just wing it, equal on both sides.

Ok, gotta go get Bebe(my kitty) some food. If I just say food or hungry right now, she will MEEEEEEOOOOWWWW. ;] She has plenty of hard food and snacks, but she finished her soft food last night. I try to give her a balance. And shrimp a few nights a week. I can hardly cut them up for her as she will not stop rubbing and bumping my arm waiting for me to finish. I would give them to her whole, but she will take them elsewhere 1 at a time. I dont want that. ;]

MaGs

Mags

Don Smith didn't show the correct way to build this coils, his method was very close but something was missing, I wonder why ? Who knows ? Either he didn't knew the detail and was only a "conman" filled with information from a real working team which had the knowledge or he made bugs intentionally.

Btw I'm trying to help little kitty , her name is Maya. I lot of troubles, because I have never had so small cat. She is without mother from second day of her life :-X and I cannot teach her how to drink milk from a saucer (she is 5 weeks old now) :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 20, 2012, 05:29:41 AM

ok! >:(

why don't you take a look at the patent of Tesla that produces high currents, and study carefully or enlarge those connections made by tekla. ;)

Teetsla quote 1:"Everything is running in a momentum state, in order to run it smoothly and well balance,
then the design should be naturally,
physically and materially fit." 8)

2: Free energy is just a matter of I + E
where: I=input
E=effect

3: To solve a mystery then be a Mysterious, and being mysterious your mind should be running in different dimension.

4: No matter how far human being can achieve, the end of it is spirit tech. 8)

And for the quote 5: Still thinking, quiettttttttttt! >:(::)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 20, 2012, 07:42:10 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 20, 2012, 05:29:41 AM
ok! >:(

why don't you take a look at the patent of Tesla that produces high currents, and study carefully or enlarge those connections made by tekla. ;)

That one ? : http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-609,250-electrical-igniter

Use magnifying glass.Frankly I don't see anything exacept when secondary is closed by spark energy can go via piston to the primary. ::)

Teetsla quote 1:"Everything is running in a momentum state, in order to run it smoothly and well balance,
then the design should be naturally,
physically and materially fit." 8)

2: Free energy is just a matter of I + E
where: I=input
E=effect

3: To solve a mystery then be a Mysterious, and being mysterious your mind should be running in different dimension.

4: No matter how far human being can achieve, the end of it is spirit tech. 8)

And for the quote 5: Still thinking, quiettttttttttt! >:( ::)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 20, 2012, 08:54:05 AM

If my theory is correct (and we all think our theory is the right one ::) )

How can we amplify the effect
I think take two magnets and two iron cores, put paper between magnets, iron core on each side, insert into core of the trifilar coil sets, make sure the north of the magnets line up with the north of the coils, we dont want to flip the polarity and break the dipole.

Why I think Ramaro's motor worked
If Im not mistaken all his magnets were n up and s down or maybe it was the other way around
anyway all coils on one side need to be wound cw
and all the coils on the other side need to be wound ccw
the coils and cores on each side need to be offset, this will create an out of phase situation with the voltage and amperage.
dont forget about the shorted coils on each side, this could be accomplished by winding the coils bifilar and shorting one wire.
another clue, his layout was in a horizontal position, this put his magnets and coils in a vertical position, this is very important for a clean signal.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on August 20, 2012, 09:14:16 AM

Quote from: forest on August 20, 2012, 03:06:38 AM
:-X and I cannot teach her how to drink milk from a saucer (she is 5 weeks old now) :(

There is very popular slogan around the world recently: TRY HARD.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 20, 2012, 09:25:54 AM

I have been playing with the idea of winding coils with either a cw or ccw direction with multiple layers
It can be done one layer at a time cut the wire then wind the next layer cut the wire and so on
then the layers can be connected in series or parallel

When a coil is wound in the normal back and forth layers one winding will be cw then the next winding will be ccw and so on as each layer is wound, does this effect the system, I would think it would when we are trying to collect energy that is moving in one direction and angular momentum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 20, 2012, 05:39:04 PM

Fine Mr.Oracion, stay as you are. :)
Many waves leaving Romes(I,II,III,...).

Greetings
CdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 20, 2012, 06:06:05 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on August 19, 2012, 12:56:55 PM
Lanca, thanks for the kind reply.

Yes many many things have been already known (invented) in the past lifetimes, during the centuries. This Patten patent is a clever implemantation of driving an electromagnet from AC current, to prevent the magnetic poles from changing as per the AC current would dictate and this was a novel way of doing it in the era when the DC 'world' was still alive and electromagnets were operated from DC sources.
I would like to understand what prompted you to mention this double coil electromagnet here, in connection with Dave45's postings? Because Dave described two trifilar coil setup and we are here to figure out extra energy and unfortunately I fail to connect your dots... could you hint some explanations?
The mechanical transmission gear with the 4 motor's torque summed into a single shaft is also a good solution, it can reduce power consumption but again I fail to see any other advantage. OF course, reduced power input is always a benefit, I agree.

Greetings,
Gyula

PS: we have hot weather with 33-34Â°C and it is forecast for next week too.

Hello Gyula,
Patten 1890 basic : 2 coils for revolving alternating field on a core/ partial in concept.
Listend for understanding.

Hyun Labs mosaics : +1 coil and as 2 overlapping Deltastars configuration-set :
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=AU&NR=2004227000A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20041202&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=AU&NR=2004227000A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20041202&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

2x 'Delta Star 'Target : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larmor_precession (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larmor_precession)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabi_cycle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabi_cycle)
Zeeman-effect
Nukleare Spin-resonanz
DC-Kerr AC-Kerr

Dave45 shows us only a "poor man nuclear reactor" working as same as a 'quantum spinning centrifuge'.

A professional view and description: http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19840905&CC=EP&NR=0117255A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19840905&CC=EP&NR=0117255A1&KC=A1)

Sincerely
CdL

p.s.: Dr.Pavel Imris ,CSc is qualified nuclear physician and I only a learner by myself
http://faculty.knox.edu/cschulz/M%C3%B6ssbauer/theory.htm (http://faculty.knox.edu/cschulz/M%C3%B6ssbauer/theory.htm)

AC-Kerr effect : optics ergo a "spectro generator" or "Moessbauer generator"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on August 20, 2012, 06:16:35 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 20, 2012, 09:25:54 AM
I have been playing with the idea of winding coils with either a cw or ccw direction with multiple layers
It can be done one layer at a time cut the wire then wind the next layer cut the wire and so on
then the layers can be connected in series or parallel

When a coil is wound in the normal back and forth layers one winding will be cw then the next winding will be ccw and so on as each layer is wound, does this effect the system, I would think it would when we are trying to collect energy that is moving in one direction and angular momentum.

When a coil is wound in the normal "back and forth" layers.... you never reverse direction, you are always winding either CW or CCW. Point the thumb of your hand along the wire and watch which way your fingers curl. Slide your hand along the wire, you will find that the "curl" of your fingers is always in the same direction. Or simply watch what direction you turn the crank of your coil winder... you never reverse it, each layer, back and forth, is wound in the same direction.

If you take a long wire and double it by folding it at the center, so both ends are in your hand and the fold is at the distance... then wind this onto a form, you will have a coil that "reverses sense" because if you do the thumb and fingers trick again you will see that the sense of curvature of your fingers reverses at the fold. This form of winding is called "hairpin bifilar" and is a good way to make a non-inductive or reduced inductance coil, as the "fingers" of one half counteract the "fingers" of the other half. You can cut the wire at the fold, and now you can make a true Tesla bifilar winding out of it by taking the "fold" end of one wire and connecting it to the free end of the other wire. Now, once again your "sense" is the same all the way around, either CW or CCW, but you will have increased energy storage in inter-winding capacitance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 20, 2012, 06:45:28 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on August 20, 2012, 06:16:35 PM
When a coil is wound in the normal "back and forth" layers.... you never reverse direction, you are always winding either CW or CCW. Point the thumb of your hand along the wire and watch which way your fingers curl. Slide your hand along the wire, you will find that the "curl" of your fingers is always in the same direction. Or simply watch what direction you turn the crank of your coil winder... you never reverse it, each layer, back and forth, is wound in the same direction.

If you take a long wire and double it by folding it at the center, so both ends are in your hand and the fold is at the distance... then wind this onto a form, you will have a coil that "reverses sense" because if you do the thumb and fingers trick again you will see that the sense of curvature of your fingers reverses at the fold. This form of winding is called "hairpin bifilar" and is a good way to make a non-inductive or reduced inductance coil, as the "fingers" of one half counteract the "fingers" of the other half. You can cut the wire at the fold, and now you can make a true Tesla bifilar winding out of it by taking the "fold" end of one wire and connecting it to the free end of the other wire. Now, once again your "sense" is the same all the way around, either CW or CCW, but you will have increased energy storage in inter-winding capacitance.

Well what would be the use of a coil that has little inductance? ;] A non inductive resistor? ;]

I think what Dave is thinking is, 2 coils on a toroid or straight inline, one wound one direction and the other in line, wound in the other direction, coils connected in the middle, and driven in the middle with a pulsed primary, like TC but primary in the middle. We are thinking that the direction of the 'electrical' fields, one coil in one direction and the other in the opposite direction, but the magnetic fields of each coil in attraction, not opposing, where the coil ends meet, may have some unique effects here.

Like I said above, the Utkin pdf seems to imply that this configuration produces a self oscillating, self building oscillation, of which needs spark gap regulation so the self building oscillation doesnt get out of hand. :o Dass wot we thinkins. ;D

So were gunna mess with it. ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 20, 2012, 08:42:53 PM

Here is a visual representation of how to pull energy out of an electromagnetic system
Notice the direction of the applied current into the system

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 20, 2012, 08:48:10 PM

Also notice the femf on each side one voltage one amperage ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 20, 2012, 09:28:40 PM

Quote from: forest on August 20, 2012, 07:42:10 AM
That one ? : http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-609,250-electrical-igniter (http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-609,250-electrical-igniter)

Use magnifying glass.Frankly I don't see anything exacept when secondary is closed by spark energy can go via piston to the primary. ::)

Teetsla quote 1:"Everything is running in a momentum state, in order to run it smoothly and well balance,
then the design should be naturally,
physically and materially fit." 8)

2: Free energy is just a matter of I + E
where: I=input
E=effect

3: To solve a mystery then be a Mysterious, and being mysterious your mind should be running in different dimension.

4: No matter how far human being can achieve, the end of it is spirit tech. 8)

And for the quote 5: Still thinking, quiettttttttttt! >:( ::)

;D

No! The one with the high frequency high currents high voltage.

and also read this to astray you more: [size=78%]http://www.slideshare.net/BioFaAreS/ebook-free-energy-secrets-with-tesla-patents-9501580 (http://www.slideshare.net/BioFaAreS/ebook-free-energy-secrets-with-tesla-patents-9501580)[/size] joke

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 20, 2012, 09:45:07 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on August 20, 2012, 05:39:04 PM
Fine Mr.Oracion, stay as you are. :)
Many waves leaving Romes(I,II,III,...).

Greetings
CdL

High everyone: What does Lanca means about this?

is he threatening me?
are those waves tsunami from rome?
can we collect those waves?

please answer me, i'm super scared ooooohhhhhh :( :'(

you bad ha :D

buddy qwert, i trust you, please explain it to me is he a phsycologist student?. :D
could you send me a gun to neutralize this wave coming from rome?
well, i will now make my hydrogen gun for those waves :D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 20, 2012, 10:04:21 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on August 20, 2012, 06:16:35 PM
When a coil is wound in the normal "back and forth" layers.... you never reverse direction, you are always winding either CW or CCW. Point the thumb of your hand along the wire and watch which way your fingers curl. Slide your hand along the wire, you will find that the "curl" of your fingers is always in the same direction. Or simply watch what direction you turn the crank of your coil winder... you never reverse it, each layer, back and forth, is wound in the same direction.

If you take a long wire and double it by folding it at the center, so both ends are in your hand and the fold is at the distance... then wind this onto a form, you will have a coil that "reverses sense" because if you do the thumb and fingers trick again you will see that the sense of curvature of your fingers reverses at the fold. This form of winding is called "hairpin bifilar" and is a good way to make a non-inductive or reduced inductance coil, as the "fingers" of one half counteract the "fingers" of the other half. You can cut the wire at the fold, and now you can make a true Tesla bifilar winding out of it by taking the "fold" end of one wire and connecting it to the free end of the other wire. Now, once again your "sense" is the same all the way around, either CW or CCW, but you will have increased energy storage in inter-winding capacitance.

When you wind your next conventional coil think of a particle moving in one direction away from you traveling in the wire when you reach the end and start winding back turn the coil around and notice the direction of the winding, remember the particle is moving through the wire away from you. You have to look at it from the particle's perspective.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 21, 2012, 12:52:28 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 20, 2012, 10:04:21 PM
When you wind your next conventional coil think of a particle moving in one direction away from you traveling in the wire when you reach the end and start winding back turn the coil around and notice the direction of the winding, remember the particle is moving through the wire away from you. You have to look at it from the particle's perspective.

We want energy to move naturally through our system, not with reversed directions and angular momentum.
We want to gently guide it but in a direction that it already wants to go.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: PARAV on August 21, 2012, 03:09:59 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 18, 2012, 10:32:46 PM
If you'll bare with me I start here http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/inductor1.htm (http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/inductor1.htm)

The reason for this strange behavior is the inductor. When current first starts flowing in the coil, the coil wants to build up a magnetic field. While the field is building, the coil inhibits the flow of current. Once the field is built, current can flow normally through the wire. When the switch gets opened, the magnetic field around the coil keeps current flowing in the coil until the field collapses. This current keeps the bulb lit for a period of time even though the switch is open. In other words, an inductor can store energy in its magnetic field, and an inductor tends to resist any change in the amount of current flowing through it.

The inductor stores energy in its magnetic field it comes back to source in the form of bemf (high voltage) but also moves forward femf in the form of high current to keep the light bulb lit after the switch is open.

I developed a magnetic field model long ago so I figured if it held water I should be able to tell what was happening by looking at the model.
I realized the inductor not only stores energy in its magnetic field but also separates the voltage from the current in the form of cw and ccw fields.
So what happens when the inductor is shut off the bemf (high voltage) comes back to source the femf (high current) moves forward into source.
I thought this is why high voltage is easy to collect but current is hard to collect because it runs on to source, so I started looking at the tank circuit but realized every time the energy is collected in the cap and released back through the inductor the same problem occurs the magnetic field builds the voltage come back and current follows on through.
I studied on this for awhile and it was something Tito said over on the Ali thread that made a lot of sense, connect the end of the primary to the beginning of the secondary, this way the current runs on into the secondary.
I pondered this for awhile then remembered I was playing with a cw winging and ccw winding on a iron core and noticed if both coils were powered from the center the poles stayed the same they didnt switch, so I started looking at this in relation to the magnetic field and its cw and ccw storage system and realized if one coil was cw its bemf would be voltage and its femf would be current and the other coil ccw its bemf would be current and its femf would be voltage, the poles never change.
I have always been a big fan of Leedskalnin and long ago realized any free energy device would have to have the shorted coils that make his pmh work, they create a standing field that can be drained from.

This is getting long winded so I will cut to the chase
wind one coil trifilar cw
wind another coil trifilar ccw
first wire on each coil set is the primary
second wire on each coil set connected as per leedskalnin's pmh - shorted coils
the last wire on each coil set is the secondary one will put out voltage the other current
Ok we want our voltage and current to be out of phase so we need to drive the coil sets out of phase, we can do this with the flip flop circuit.
Connect the end of the primary's in each coil set to the beginning of the secondary's in each coil set, thanks Tito.

The system will pull energy from the magnetic field naturally without flipping the poles or breaking the dipole.
I did some experiments with ice long ago and realized that the electric field wants to be parallel to the earth, build the coils in a vertical orientation.

Hi Dave,

I really like your ideas and logic on the above.

So much so, that I am going to have a go at it as well.

Can you tell me what type of flip flop driver circuit you had in mind for your set up??

Thanx in advance--Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 21, 2012, 03:29:31 PM

I'm looking for info how to see the current flow direction in secondary compared to primary, magnetic induction principle but not for moving magnet but for transformer action with pulsing DC.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on August 22, 2012, 11:31:35 AM

There is a generic schematic of a flip-flop circuit at the bottom of page 29 at Patrick Kelly's electronic tutorial here:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter12.pdf (http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter12.pdf)
See "Monostable Multivibrator", also known as flip flop circuit.
Perhaps Dave and some others have a more detailed one in mind.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: PARAV on August 22, 2012, 01:12:05 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on August 22, 2012, 11:31:35 AM
There is a generic schematic of a flip-flop circuit at the bottom of page 29 at Patrick Kelly's electronic tutorial here:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter12.pdf (http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter12.pdf)
See "Monostable Multivibrator", also known as flip flop circuit.
Perhaps Dave and some others have a more detailed one in mind.
Bob

Hi Bob,

Thanx for that info. I appreciate it.

I was also looking at that same chapter from Page 40 on down using the 555 chip as an astable vibrator which can offer a wider range of frequencies -am not an expert here--I'll wait for Dave45 for any further inputs--but at least I now have a better understanding --of monostable and astable flipflops/vibrators etc.

My hats off to Patrick Kelly's tutorials with his multitude of pricelesss information on every aspect of the free energy scene. He's been a God send to me -- I have learned so much about electronics in the last couple of years from his web site.

Thanx again,--Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 22, 2012, 08:50:15 PM

:D
Simple things that really helped me understand, and i am now sharing it to all of you ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VucsoEhB0NA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VucsoEhB0NA&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=ZjwzpoCiF8A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=ZjwzpoCiF8A)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z55566ep0Hg&feature=fvwrel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z55566ep0Hg&feature=fvwrel)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=utgOayopDIA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=utgOayopDIA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjx-V_cCl7A&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjx-V_cCl7A&feature=related)

Here is the water solution TO POWER the world "THE BUOYANCY" FOR THE WORLD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIdt63Vl4Xs&feature=watch_response (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIdt63Vl4Xs&feature=watch_response)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jTrMqMa9lA&feature=related

CLUE: BUOYANCY GENERATE PRESSURE TO FILL THE AIR, SIMPLE ISN'T IT. 8)

hope you get it ;) goodluck

For the world, :o
For the world, :o
For the world. :o

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 22, 2012, 09:09:17 PM

CAN YOU MAKE THIS THING WORK? :o http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=H9p6K4UehuA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=H9p6K4UehuA)

MY SOLUTION:
Make other piston at the top so that momentum and ping pong effect can contribute their effect to do a cycle. 8)

oooops: consider balance and perfect adjustment again. of course its not just just.

I'm really enjoying examining the works of every inventors and scientists.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 22, 2012, 09:21:16 PM

This thing is really simple isn't it?. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=oo_mP18IXMo&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=oo_mP18IXMo&NR=1)

This one to, look, am i look like crazy here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vU0V48gL0&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vU0V48gL0&feature=related)

This is really a good thing to copy and really work. much better if you put some vitamins in the water . ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EulBdRyoPqU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EulBdRyoPqU&feature=related)

Why not?! its simple. lol. ok for simplicity we just need an AUTO alternator for really simple design for this ok.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9FodZfH3VQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9FodZfH3VQ&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp8z2QetHCI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp8z2QetHCI&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZZt8CpNbSU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZZt8CpNbSU&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvJW_zNyVCw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvJW_zNyVCw&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1fXAdODGvA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1fXAdODGvA&feature=related)

This thing really makes me lough;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=-zWfXXCZU3E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=-zWfXXCZU3E)

This thing really convinced me of energy amplification, hmmmmmm, ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SZCRJEr6Lc&feature=related

This is beautiful : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOIX0NEdij0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=DVf2JssdYWg

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on August 22, 2012, 09:41:49 PM

See this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKV-8G2MpiY&feature=related

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 22, 2012, 10:50:41 PM

Quote from: Qwert on August 22, 2012, 09:41:49 PM
See this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKV-8G2MpiY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKV-8G2MpiY&feature=related)

Yes i believe him but there is still some hard part to make it in actual.
like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=h41oenbUGsE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=h41oenbUGsE)

but if we can convert it like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=Fv53K9MnDuM&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=Fv53K9MnDuM&NR=1)

not bad :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 23, 2012, 12:03:44 AM

Utkin

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 23, 2012, 08:11:59 PM

Hey guy's Iv been out of town for a few days working, just got back in, Im not sure which flip flop circuit to use, you guys are the electronic guru's I just study the magnetic fields.

I watch and study everyone's work and try to put together a working principle, I plan on building this soon as well,

I hope this works but at the same time it scares me a little.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 23, 2012, 08:45:31 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 23, 2012, 08:11:59 PM

I hope this works but at the same time it scares me a little.

dave

Same here. ;] :o

Well, Tito said put on the big rubber gloves or it will bite you. ;]

If it is a self building oscillation, it will have to be regulated some how. Supposedly we use a spark gap to shut it down and/regulate.

Its funny, the spark is just a safety mechanism, not the secret. ;] I wonder if it will continuously spark and regulate, or the spark kills it and you have to 'kick' it again.

Im starting first using alarm wire with 4 conductor 22awg color coded wire.

In the Utkin pdf, his coils look to be more than 1 layer. Im going to do 4 layers for the 2 secondaries. Im using a peal and stick clear plastic with the non stick side rolled around the 2in pvc, and on the sticky side out start winding, as the sticky will anchor the first layer nicely and the plastic allows the coil to slide on the pvc for testing proximity of the 2 secondaries.

The 4 wires will give me flexibility in configuration and and easy winding session. At least for trials. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 23, 2012, 10:54:24 PM

Mags Iv watched your work for years
thats why I came to you
you know how to test it
the power doesnt scare me, its the repercussions of a free energy device.
but we have to try for the poor and starving in this world.
Like Forest said "its the right thing to do"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 23, 2012, 10:56:46 PM

ok! here is my giveaway ;D

8) SPARK GAPS 8)

GET 2 SIZE D BATTERY AND GET THE CARBON IN THE MIDDLE, THEN ALIGN THEM IN PARALLEL THEN CONNECT.

WHY PARALLEL?

BECAUSE WE WANT THE SPARK GO FREELY AND NOT JUST USING THE TIP OF THE CARBON OK, BUT WITH LARGE SPACE 8)

WELL, I'M NOT ANYMORE USING SPARK GAPS. :D
DID YOU SEE STEVEN MARK USING SPARK GAPS? ::)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 23, 2012, 11:18:49 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 23, 2012, 10:54:24 PM
Mags Iv watched your work for years
thats why I came to you
you know how to test it
the power doesnt scare me, its the repercussions of a free energy device.
but we have to try for the poor and starving in this world.
Like Forest said "its the right thing to do"

As i'm reading your comment, my first impression is, you are going to electrocute first the poor and those who are starving in this world

and even forest is agree about this and its the right thing to do. wwwwhattttt! :o lol hahahahahahhahahahhahahaha joke.

have mercy dave ;) lol

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 23, 2012, 11:39:39 PM

Tito doesnt use spark gaps anymore. ;]

Well something that would regulate other than the spark gap, zener diode? If so, then not so HV to be controlled. Unless shorted coils like Dave has shown, where voltage would be low and current high, so now a zener seems more qualified. But where n how?

Then there are SIDACs and Trissils good for a couple hundred volts.

Im gunna start winding tomorrow. Was just thinking of what to use and hows. ;]

MaGs

Tito. So you get your carbon rods from D cells. ;] Never thunk it lately. And I used to take batteries apart as a kid, then a couple times haphazardly reassembled, and they became heat generators. :o ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 23, 2012, 11:53:05 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL210363D8A2772090&v=hiQDq7tGlVc&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL210363D8A2772090&v=hiQDq7tGlVc&feature=player_embedded)

Another giveaways ;)

Hi everyone I simplified this video using only one bifilar coil in a core , 4 tube magnets with a size of 1/2 ins diameter by 3 arrangement is N N S S.....
pulse the coil then be sure that every magnets are affected for every pulse. ;)

off course every magnet has collecter coil.

isn't that simple? ;) 8)

This doesn't even need a spark gap ;)

God bless;)

;D.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 24, 2012, 12:13:54 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 23, 2012, 11:53:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL210363D8A2772090&v=hiQDq7tGlVc&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL210363D8A2772090&v=hiQDq7tGlVc&feature=player_embedded)

Another giveaways ;)

Hi everyone I simplified this video using only one bifilar coil in a core , 4 tube magnets with a size of 1/2 ins diameter by 3 arrangement is N N S S.....
pulse the coil then be sure that every magnets are affected for every pulse. ;)

off course every magnet has collecter coil.

isn't that simple? ;) 8)

This doesn't even need a spark gap ;)

God bless;)

;D .

Sorry Teets. Its too vague. But I think you know that already. ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 24, 2012, 02:43:59 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 23, 2012, 11:18:49 PM

As i'm reading your comment, my first impression is, you are going to electrocute first the poor and those who are starving in this world

and even forest is agree about this and its the right thing to do. wwwwhattttt! :o lol hahahahahahhahahahhahahaha joke.

have mercy dave ;) lol

;D

The problem why it takes so long is because 1/2 of the rich world is busy with stupid jobs and next 1/2 is silenced by a hard work to feed them all. The former are not interested in anything free and the next are only accept immediate results because they have no time to think. That's why the rest of world is starving - because thos who can work on stupid problems like selling more and more crap.

Watch "Machine gun preacher" film

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 24, 2012, 07:30:49 AM

I agree Tito it is dangerous but how can we get free energy to the world if we cant show them how to make it.

The ignition coil schematic I gave a link to is not a good candidate to do testing with, if you found the right coil configuration the power it would put out would be explosive.
Im removing that post.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 24, 2012, 07:46:10 AM

I'll be looking for a flip flop driver as well,
any idea's :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 24, 2012, 07:59:37 AM

could we use a battery-inverter-variac-fwbr and feed dc pulses into the two coils
we would be able to control the input voltage but we would not be able to control the frequency
hmmmmmmmmmm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: IWD on August 24, 2012, 08:01:41 AM

ooo... that is just great boys,... so you believe knowledge sharing is dangerous? It will make people lazy to think? ...ok ....keep teling yourself,.. it is just way how you ego create a reason to justify your actions. How to keep advantage to yourself. To keep doing nothing. To hide simple fact to your mind, so you can live in peace. It is basic ability of man kind, automatic and reflexive. It is the simle reason why only concrete kind of life will survive.
So ..enjoy your advantage if you get it, credit for getting it is just yours, as it seems from your words. :/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 24, 2012, 08:14:52 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on August 23, 2012, 11:39:39 PM

Tito. So you get your carbon rods from D cells. ;] Never thunk it lately. And I used to take batteries apart as a kid, then a couple times haphazardly reassembled, and they became heat generators. :o ;)

I remember Tito mentioning carbon cores
Tito you know more than your telling ;)
"Sure could use a little good news today"
What a beautiful song.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 24, 2012, 08:23:25 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqUUQElQ8kM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 24, 2012, 09:20:15 AM

Seems I had a mistake in the pic, fixed it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 24, 2012, 09:48:45 AM

Is it frequency dependent, if we use the same size wire for all our windings.
We are not trying to convert voltage to amperage in the normal transformer type windings, we are unraveling the magnetic field, pulling it apart and channeling the fields.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 24, 2012, 10:14:38 AM

I would think that the voltage or the amperage could be increased or decreased by using less or more windings on either side.
In others words one coil set could be ten winds while the other could be twenty.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 24, 2012, 06:26:12 PM

Hey Dave

Thanks for the good words. ;]

If you wind 2 input or primary coils together and put them in series, and on that center tap connect B+ and use mosfets to alternately pulse the ends of the primary with -V then one coil will induce one way and the other coil will induce the other way. They use this method in car amplifier power supplies.

Driving the mosfets can be done with a PWM IC, many available and freq adjustable.

You can use a flip flop IC to switch the fets, with a 555 timer set to 50% duty to trigger the flips and flops, while the freq of the 555 is also adjustable.

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 24, 2012, 07:42:14 PM

I figured you had something in mind
I have a pwm I got from rmcybernetics
If you run across a schematic please send it my way
Im a dummy when it comes to the electronics, but looks like its time to learn.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 24, 2012, 09:19:17 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on August 24, 2012, 12:13:54 AM
Sorry Teets. Its too vague. But I think you know that already. ;]

MaGs

No buddy, just use the tesla kicking tech. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 24, 2012, 09:22:13 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 24, 2012, 07:30:49 AM
I agree Tito it is dangerous but how can we get free energy to the world if we cant show them how to make it.

The ignition coil schematic I gave a link to is not a good candidate to do testing with, if you found the right coil configuration the power it would put out would be explosive.
Im removing that post.
dave

yes! that is what we are aiming very long time ago, the silent explosive. ;D

roll
roll
roll

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: PARAV on August 24, 2012, 09:26:38 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on August 24, 2012, 06:26:12 PM
Hey Dave

Thanks for the good words. ;]

If you wind 2 input or primary coils together and put them in series, and on that center tap connect B+ and use mosfets to alternately pulse the ends of the primary with -V then one coil will induce one way and the other coil will induce the other way. They use this method in car amplifier power supplies.

Driving the mosfets can be done with a PWM IC, many available and freq adjustable.

You can use a flip flop IC to switch the fets, with a 555 timer set to 50% duty to trigger the flips and flops, while the freq of the 555 is also adjustable.

MaGs

Hi MaGs,
Thanx for being there with your suggestions on Dave 45's ideas---Can you show us a rough schematic of what you think, of how this could be wired up----Thanx again--Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 24, 2012, 09:29:15 PM

Ill figure out something to work for you. What freq range do you want to work with? Input voltage? And what is your idea for a primary coil, as in no. of turns, wire size?

It would be good to have some base lines so when I design the circuit, we are in the area you want to be, the first time. ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 24, 2012, 09:39:13 PM

Quote from: PARAV on August 24, 2012, 09:26:38 PM

Hi MaGs,
Thanx for being there with your suggestions on Dave 45's ideas---Can you show us a rough schematic of what you think, of how this could be wired up----Thanx again--Paul

Hey Parav

Well we seem to have a bunch of things to try. Utkin pdf below and Daves idea. They all include 2 oppositely wound coils, inline on a straight core, or possibly toroidal like Dave suggests.

Im winding my first tonight to try a few things before I commit to a certain design. ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: PARAV on August 24, 2012, 10:48:04 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on August 24, 2012, 09:29:15 PM
Ill figure out something to work for you. What freq range do you want to work with? Input voltage? And what is your idea for a primary coil, as in no. of turns, wire size?

It would be good to have some base lines so when I design the circuit, we are in the area you want to be, the first time. ;]

MaGs

Hi MaGs,
Thanx for the quick response--
I'm just kind of on the side lines with this at the moment as I , too, am waiting for some of Dave's inputs to figure out some of the circuitry---eg, -a high voltage oscillator input --then incorporate it with a type of flipflop multivibrator of sorts .
I think he/(we) need a alot of help from guys like you to get some ideas down on to a circuit diagram--- Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 25, 2012, 12:30:42 AM

No problem Parav. I suggest you read the pdf. It talks about a lot of what we are looking to do. Dave has more of a trifi happening. I dont know if that is necessary, but every which way we try, hopefully gets us to our destination. ;] And eliminates non working posibilities.

I have been thinking about these setups for a while. I just couldnt grasp the electrical field end of it all. Im starting to get it. Just thinking on my own, having the electrical fields flowing in opposing directions, I wonder if there is some kind of twisting between the 2 coils, like a spring. ;] or you hear the term 'vortex' thrown around. So 2+2 is 4 ;]

I dunno. So im going to try a few things. If there is any effects, more than likely there should be some evidence of it with single input pulses and tests. At least I want to try things like this first. Maybe use light bulbs in series with windings at first, so if things get out of hand, the bulb will light and increase resistance in the circuit to regulate things a bit. If there is a buildup upon starting, it should be able to be measured before the bulb heats up, if it does, depending on the bulb, and depending on what ever. Im thinking of other safety mechanisms for the just in case moments. Who knows. Teets says to get the long rubber gloves. lol I have to say, no harm there. Get some gloves. ;]

This kind of winding and configurations are not in books at the library. If you get into this project, take some extra precautions. Nobody needs to get hurt or worse. ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 25, 2012, 08:18:46 AM

Hey Mags
Iv been thinking the same thing, Im going to start winding tomorrow, I may go the high voltage route just because I have the parts and the schematic is simple, but I'll be nowhere near it while its running ;D Im chicken ::)
I think because of the shorted coils and the poles having the same orientation the system will become one. speaking of the electric fields there are some vids I would like you guys to see, I have obligations for awhile today but will look them up and post them here this evening.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 25, 2012, 08:43:44 AM

Here's one Min2oly is using a sniffer coil hooked to his scope it shows the polarity of the electric fields outside the coil.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xq9VVGYoSU&feature=uploademail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xq9VVGYoSU&feature=uploademail)
notice his coil is in a vertical position this is important for a clean signal

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 25, 2012, 09:06:50 AM

Tesla was brought up in a Christian home he knew everything pointed to God thats why he was obsessed with the number three.
If you look at this system you will see the three.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 25, 2012, 04:45:02 PM

Trying to see the field reactions ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 25, 2012, 05:06:15 PM

Im not sure what firing the coils at the same time will do, the bemf from both coils will clash, the system will not work as it should, even if it did the amperage and voltage would be in phase.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 25, 2012, 05:43:23 PM

one coil-3 windings=3
second coil-3 windings=6
3 magnetic fields=9

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 26, 2012, 02:55:09 AM

Free energy is as simple as this one:

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 26, 2012, 09:32:22 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 26, 2012, 02:55:09 AM
Free energy is as simple as this one:

Crystal power ;)
I have some idea's on this as well using ice :) , but I have to see this through, it just makes too much sense.

I think I'll wind my coils using 12 ga stranded wire as thats all I have that will carry enough amps, I have 16 ga magnet wire but dont think it will carry the amperage.
Im going to use single windings, no layers, to see if the system works, if so it could be expanded upon later.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 26, 2012, 12:11:28 PM

Here's another vid showing the electric field around a magnet, its not complete because the high voltage is only running through the system in one direction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d6chzb7Z1c&feature=related

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 26, 2012, 12:37:59 PM

This is what made me start looking at the electric field years ago, I froze a coil in ice and found there are fields I didnt understand.
The first pic is the coil froze in a vertical position, the second is the same coil froze in a horizontal position.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 26, 2012, 10:01:21 PM

Hope Im not boring you guy's

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 27, 2012, 04:50:56 AM

:) why not.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 27, 2012, 07:41:44 AM

Tito if you draw it in paint would be easier to see :)
:o Is that two caps with a freewheel diode across them or just one.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on August 27, 2012, 09:40:26 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 27, 2012, 04:50:56 AM
:) why not.

Hi Sir Teets,
Is it posible to replace the switch with a mosfet? Even with the freewheel diode and the cap, arcing is still there, I keep burning my contacts ;D Can you pls. post the value of the parts in your diagram? My setup does not charge it's own :D Thanks!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 27, 2012, 10:46:36 AM

Am I understanding you correctly

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 27, 2012, 08:02:09 PM

Tito posted this drawing back when he first joined here. He was saying that it was the secret to SM tpu. He gave a vague description of the transformer, yet couldnt tell if this will work with a normal transformer.
Without details, its hard to say what parts are necessary for sure. He spoke of a zener diode, but the symbol in the circuit looks like ordinary diode. If it were a zener, of which he said, 'at least 3v' , I dont understand the function. And I been thinking on this for some time, I just dont get it.

Dave, im putting something together for your flip flop. We had big storm here in FL.

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 27, 2012, 09:00:50 PM

Seems I typed in the wrong storm name lol.
Stay safe its not over yet, lots of rain still to come.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 27, 2012, 10:31:10 PM

Dave, here is a simple thing you might want to try.

It was a circuit that is in the sim library and I added the 2 coils to simulate the primary I described earlier.

You can drive it with an ac signal from a gen or PC audio gen, unless you are thinking of something else. PWM chip will get a pulse output rather than just flip flop. But if it is flip flop, then this should work. Then we can make an ac gen circuit that fits the design after.

Transistors or fets Just start off with 10k resistors inline with the gates of the fets and see what happens, let me know what voltages you want for input. Transistors should have resistors also.
Just something simple that gets it done. ;]

Falstad.com/circuit

Code

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R 592 304 592 352 0 0 40.0 -10.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
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R 528 192 464 192 0 2 300.0 10.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
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MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wizkycho on August 28, 2012, 06:38:16 AM

Yeah resonace is allways the answer !!!
but cannot be achieved if only small parameter is wrong or missing
what it would take is detailed bluprintes (to the smallest smitherin)
of some successfull experiment. Although I'm planing to "jump" on resonance of second
third etc. degree, I've decided making something really simple but powerfull.
While not in experiments please do check:
FDM by Igor Knitel
You will tap FE quicker then with resonance.

Igor Knitel

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 06:48:26 AM

Hey Mags
This is probably my ignorance of how a flip flop works but it looks like this circuit pushes and pulls, we need a circuit that pushes out one leg then switches and pushes out the other leg.
At least this is the way I had it pictured.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 07:20:00 AM

Im not sure if resonance is critical here, I think SM used 60 hz , he had no large cap bank to bring down the frequency, his circuit was very simple, its in the winding of the coils.

If this system was brought into resonance the power would be incredibly dangerous.

dave

Also he used an iron core and iron cannot be used in high frequency situations.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 07:52:23 AM

We need the phase angle to be 90 degrees out, so the two coils need to reflect this each firing 30 times per second giving us 60 hz.
I know this is a lot to ask, and Im not asking anyone to build it, but are my thoughts on how SM powered his coils,
But to make the trifilar coils work they need to have a forward pulse from the center legs carrying amperage out one side and voltage out the other.
I feel if low voltage is used the coils will need a core, but with higher voltage air core would work.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 08:15:04 AM

The energy we are trying to catch is the energy that is lifting this aluminum ring.
Notice it follows the iron core, it circulates around the core.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVFCBTBMJx0T
This is why with low voltage it will need a core.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 08:16:53 AM

But with high voltage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FBUuhHbnv4 no core needed.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wizkycho on August 28, 2012, 08:19:18 AM

Guys !
you are allready on page 142 and still chasing milliwats. building electric plant for ants ?
or searching jobs in nano physics.
can you please in pause for coffe look how to obtain:
http://www.overunity.com/12632/fdm-flux-displacer-motor-by-igor-knitel-perihelion-labs/msg333861/#msg333861 (http://www.overunity.com/12632/fdm-flux-displacer-motor-by-igor-knitel-perihelion-labs/msg333861/#msg333861)

wish you good progress in research

Wiz

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 08:39:31 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_kKXJUargU&feature=related
I dont agree with everything he says but you can see the effects.

I think the trifilar system needs a dc pulse alternating between the two coils.

@wizycho
An electromagnetic system will work and will be a lot less expensive to build.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wizkycho on August 28, 2012, 08:52:52 AM

@Dave45
resonant one will, problem is You can not integrate coils or capacitors (make them smaller)
you can only go higher with frequencies and I don't see this happening here.
You would need to go LIGHT freqs to make
power output/price ratio better then properly aranged magnets (like in FDM)
but then you lose coils and caps as block elements.
only resonance stays:
resonance of first degree is not usable for energy applications
second, third an more cascaded reosonant circuits could be usable.
anyway good experimenting

know where to buy cutted silicon iron sheets ?

wiz

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 09:06:48 AM

Im sure a 1/4 wave resonance would drive the system to further output, but the design of the coils is just for proof of principle I think they will work as designed, its the coils magnetic field reactions that will make this system work, every reaction will reinforce the system, nothing wasted, not flipping the polarity of the magnetic field, but drawing energy out naturally.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 09:11:09 AM

Im working on a little different winding technique basically the same just the position of the shorted coil and the secondary in relation to the primary, I'll post a pic soon.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 09:23:53 AM

I hope this explains what Im talking about

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 09:41:54 AM

Im sorry guy's this is a work in progress, but I hope you see the reasoning here, when its built we will know how it works.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 10:09:40 PM

Two-phase systems can also be implemented using three wires (two "hot" plus a common neutral). However this introduces asymmetry; the voltage drop in the neutral makes the phases not exactly 90 degrees apart. :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 28, 2012, 10:46:55 PM

Im trying to grasp it Dave. For a while now If been seeing these ideas, but I cant make volts or amps of it. ;]

Like why is one side the current side and the other the voltage side? And what do we gain from that?

Are we saying that the coil on the left has no current flow but voltage across is present, and on the right side, current is flowing, but low voltage across?

Well if the left has shorted coils, I would think that current would flow and voltage nill, as it is shorted.

I would love to understand. But, well, you can see where I am. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 10:56:54 PM

Would this work for a driver, would using ac instead put them out of phase or will it flip the magnetic field and alternate from v to a then a to v

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 11:01:07 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on August 28, 2012, 10:46:55 PM
Im trying to grasp it Dave. For a while now If been seeing these ideas, but I cant make volts or amps of it. ;]

Like why is one side the current side and the other the voltage side? And what do we gain from that?

Are we saying that the coil on the left has no current flow but voltage across is present, and on the right side, current is flowing, but low voltage across?

Well if the left has shorted coils, I would think that current would flow and voltage nill, as it is shorted.

I would love to understand. But, well, you can see where I am. ;]

Mags

There is a shorted coil on both sides they tie together to make one large shorted coil that encompasses the whole system.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 28, 2012, 11:10:46 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 10:56:54 PM
Would this work for a driver, would using ac instead put them out of phase or will it flip the magnetic field and alternate from v to a then a to v

Its like showing a transformer with 2 secondaries, 1 has volts and 1 has amps. But I dont see how.

Oh, shorted on both sides. Your last drawing seems to imply a shorted coil to the left of the red coil.

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 11:10:54 PM

I'll think on your post and see what I can do to clarify
Thanks
dave

The difference with this system is it catch's the bemf stores it in the field of the shorted coils then feeds it into the femf on its perspective side.
Will it go ou ? I havent built it yet, If it doesn't it will be the most efficient transformer ever built.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 11:13:32 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on August 28, 2012, 11:10:46 PM

Its like showing a transformer with 2 secondaries, 1 has volts and 1 has amps. But I dont see how.

Oh, shorted on both sides. Your last drawing seems to imply a shorted coil to the left of the red coil.

MaGs

Oh Im sorry that pic just shows one side, just to show why I am moving the winding of the shorted and secondary coils out to the middle of the primary.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 11:22:35 PM

This is what happens with a LC circuit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 28, 2012, 11:31:23 PM

It could probably be done with an lc circuit but the secondary's would have to be a caduceus winding, I havent sat down and thought about the reactions of the coils using this configuration.
Its much simpler using the system I have been putting together.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 28, 2012, 11:48:11 PM

Ill just have to see what happens. ;] My wire will allow me to bifi, trifi, with shorted windings. Ill put some pics up when Im done. ;]

Thanks Dave. It takes me a bit to get some things. But then I 'know' them. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 29, 2012, 02:33:33 AM

Doing 3 layers on each side. Even though I used the self stick plastic, my winding too tight collapsed part of my first coil near the end. So I used long thin strips of the self stick plastic sheet to hold the wire at the beginning and the beginning of each new layer. Just wrapped that part of the wire with the sticky strip and wound the next turns over the tail end of the strip. Its all good now. A bit of super glue helps also. ;]

Went with 3 layers as it is getting heavy, and the leads end up on opposite ends of the coil which I prefer.

The plastic, with the non stick side against the 2in pvc, does not slide easily once the wire is tightened around it. lol but it does move. If I slid it off of the tube, the plastic might collapse and fold. I can slid it off a bit though to create some space between the coils if I want to try it.

Will be finished tomorrow.

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 29, 2012, 02:34:24 AM

Please provide good working driver for driving primary without center tap . All I can find is designed for center tapped primary.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 29, 2012, 02:46:50 AM

Quote from: forest on August 29, 2012, 02:34:24 AM
Please provide good working driver for driving primary without center tap . All I can find is designed for center tapped primary.

Well thats what I thought might work for a center tapped coil in the circuit I posted earlier. It can use a 555 timer for input setup with say 10v+ input to the 555 and -10v for the neg/gnd of the 555 and the output will be flip floped 10vac square wave, with adjustable freq. Simple. But I think Dave wants a pulsed input + and -. That can be done also. Use that 555 output to drive the fets. Bada bing.

Even though the coils are connected in the middle, we can still just fire one coil at a time by applying power to either end and common or ground in the middle(center tap)

If wound both in the same direction, with tap, one coil powered will give NS and the other coil will produce SN. Its easy. Just 2 times as much wire for the primary coil because only one of the coils is used any any time. ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 29, 2012, 03:18:33 AM

Might not be right on the 555 with - and + in. Im about to drop. zzzz It should be easy enough. One way or another. I dont know if you guys have an idea of freq, voltage, and coil ohms that you want to use. Pulsed? 105 duty cycle?

My coils are 134 turns on each side, opposing windings. ;] Just ADT alarm connection wire, 4 strand. I dunno what kind of input I want to throw at this thing. But I seem to keep thinking of ideas for turning it on, from the other side of the room. lol

MaGzzz

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 29, 2012, 08:27:30 AM

Iv been thinking about a dead man switch myself. lol

Im not sure how your winding using layers but I think Im going with single windings so I can understand how its working.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 29, 2012, 09:17:46 AM

The direction of current through the coil changes the polarity of the primary therefore it changes the polarity of the induced fields into the secondary.
Now you can see why we dont want to use an LC circuit or ac to drive our system.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 29, 2012, 09:58:08 AM

This can be confusing sometimes, Iv wound coils wrong before thinking I was winding cw and ccw.
You wind a cw and a ccw coil and never change the direction of the winding machine, it all depends on the direction of the wind either right to left or left to right, wind the coils from the center out in both directions.
Remember we are looking at it from the particles perspective as it moves through the wire not right hand or left hand rule.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 30, 2012, 12:10:40 AM

I know exactly what you mean Dave. ;] been bouncing this off my brain for a while now. I did a toroid, ferrite core, but I dont think I was applying it correctly, dunno. So I had been putting this off. Also I dont know if the core affects the external electrical 'field' as per an air core. Make sense? ;]

Below is pics from where the first one is complete, and starting the second. Doesnt really take long to wind near 150 turns. But making it adjustable spacing on the pvc tube, windings falling apart or collapsing, Ive had better luck many times before.

The close up shows the plastic loops holding the beginning of each layer in place. And the surface of the plastic it is wound on is sticky. So even though the sliding adjustability is tight, the windings wont fall apart doing so.

As for what to do with this 4 to 5 pound contraption, I would like to try it as a transformer at first, using one of the coils as a primary and...
Just to set things solid in my mind as to basic functions of this configuration.

Then try a 3rd coil set in the middle of the 2 as an outer primary, and put equal loads on each secondary, secondaries have no connection to each other. Just to see.

Then try some of the circuits from Dave and the Utkin file. Lots to do. ;]

I went with the 3 layers based on what is shown concerning electrical field flow. If it goes around the tube, then layers should not be a problem as long as all the turns currents are in the same direction in the coil. Im posting a pic below from the Utkin pdf.

In most examples of this, the 2 coils are joined at the inner most connection. If we pulse a centered primary each secondary will naturally cause currents to want to flow in the same direction around the tube, 'in both coils'. This means that the inner most connection between the coils where they are connected to each other, will become a 'potential' of 1 polarity, and each coil outer end will both be the opposite polarity. So I dont see these electrical fields in opposite directions, as shown, around the tube in this config. But I do see electrical compression within the wires of the coils, like what happens in a capacitor, compression on 1 plate and depletion of the other plate.

Daves is a different devil. When I think about it, trying to understand it, I get flashes of how the coils interact. Not sure yet. ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 30, 2012, 07:12:14 AM

I have a suspicion that current is attracted to ground and voltage is repelled, anyway lets look at how a Tesla coil works, remember Tesla wanted to use ground currents to transfer energy.
Notice the high voltage secondary is grounded, I believe the Tesla coil pumps current into the ground,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 30, 2012, 09:23:14 PM

ccw side
black- primary
green-one side of the shorted coil
red- secondary

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 30, 2012, 10:49:43 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 30, 2012, 09:23:14 PM
ccw side
black- primary
green-one side of the shorted coil
red- secondary

Nice ;]

maybe just tap the primary with low power and release, to see how the rest of the coil reacts. Like a AA1.5v , like Teeter said a lil while back. That Teeter. ;D

It may give hints of what should be expected of a driver.

It might be a good idea to have an extra wire off of the end leads of all coils that come to a common place so if voltage builds too high, "Spark" and 'hopefully' keep things in check if it gets out of hand. Or, you can just freeball it and see if it transports you from one side of the room to the other. ;]

Im gunna hear Mitt speak right now. Hope and Change doesnt sound so good 4 years later.

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 31, 2012, 07:08:23 AM

I like the spark idea, safety valve, cool

We're gonna take Don Smith to a whole new level :D

I dont watch much of the dog and pony show, makes me sick to my stomach, they'r gonna do what they want to do anyway.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 31, 2012, 07:18:46 AM

I picked up a junk guitar amp here while back it has heat sinks that fit the 2n3055's perfect back clips and all, I have to wind the other side then start putting together the driver, Im slow, alway's trying to look at it from a different angle.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 31, 2012, 07:32:51 AM

I think I'll hook it to a variac - fwbr just for kicks
I run the variac from a battery and inverter

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 31, 2012, 02:30:29 PM

I found something silly and strange also. :P Please don't laugh !

Take a hard wire and wind an air core coil of just few turns. Take coil horizontally in hands and check the direction of windings from left and right side of coil just following the curvature of coil by finger.

Now, place that coil vertically and do the same.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 31, 2012, 02:38:15 PM

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 31, 2012, 03:05:32 PM

http://makeagif.com/ZYsXnz
This too much fun ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 31, 2012, 04:31:14 PM

Quote from: forest on August 31, 2012, 02:30:29 PM
I found something silly and strange also. :P Please don't laugh !

Take a hard wire and wind an air core coil of just few turns. Take coil horizontally in hands and check the direction of windings from left and right side of coil just following the curvature of coil by finger.

Now, place that coil vertically and do the same.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 31, 2012, 08:07:14 PM

http://makeagif.com/i/f4lh9N

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 01, 2012, 11:30:41 AM

I rewound the ccw coil it was just too large.
13 windings, shorted coil starts after the seventh wind of the primary then the secondary this should put the shorted coil and the secondary well to one side of the bloch wall of the primary, so as to not catch any bemf, we only want femf in these coils.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 01, 2012, 11:37:54 AM

Have ever notice that an odd number of magnets will not complete the loop but an even number will ;D
13 on each side will not loop but 26 all together will

every angle

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 01, 2012, 11:50:59 AM

There were 13 disciple's including Jesus.
They say the number 13 is unlucky because thats the date the templars were gathered up and killed, but lets look at who the templars were, they were the banking elite at that time.
The Bible says to stay away from usery, why because it makes you a slave to the bankers.
So the number 13 is unlucky for who.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 01, 2012, 01:16:51 PM

The secondary needs to be the last wire out, since as Lee Tseung says it is leading energy out of the system, it carries energy out past the shorted coils magnetic field.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 01, 2012, 02:23:42 PM

Tito !!!!!

This patent http://www.google.com/patents/US568176?printsec=drawing&dq=568176&ei=fVJCUOfKFYrotQbtioHADQ#v=onepage&q=568176&f=false

????? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gadgetmall on September 01, 2012, 09:35:12 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 31, 2012, 04:31:14 PM

hi guys something i always wondered is if your on the other side of the earth does your tornadoes spin counterclockwise . How about your drains when water goes down the tub . do they go oppisite from ours in usa?

Sorry for the interruption .. Please carry on . I am following your work in the back ground because i am working on somthing simular .

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on September 01, 2012, 09:58:52 PM

Quote from: gadgetmall on September 01, 2012, 09:35:12 PM
hi guys something i always wondered is if your on the other side of the earth does your tornadoes spin counterclockwise . How about your drains when water goes down the tub . do they go oppisite from ours in usa?

Sorry for the interruption .. Please carry on . I am following your work in the back ground because i am working on somthing simular .

Al:

Yes, in the southern hemisphere, water drains opposite to the northern hemisphere. The only difference is toilets because, the water jets are all made facing one way....I read this somewhere. The name is the coreolis effect. (sp?)

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2012, 11:58:54 PM

Quote from: forest on September 01, 2012, 02:23:42 PM
Tito !!!!!

This patent http://www.google.com/patents/US568176?printsec=drawing&dq=568176&ei=fVJCUOfKFYrotQbtioHADQ#v=onepage&q=568176&f=false (http://www.google.com/patents/US568176?printsec=drawing&dq=568176&ei=fVJCUOfKFYrotQbtioHADQ#v=onepage&q=568176&f=false)

??? ?? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ya buddy! Bingo!!!! :o

Analyzed the second drawing its like a hairpin, and notice those two very fine coils that gives extra strength to the caps. really soooow simple isn't it? :o

so the coil at the other side of the caps doesn't care about what is really going on isn't it? but it is enjoying the effect of flux. ;)

hi everyone enjoy this simple collections:
http://www.next.gr/power-supplies/Free-Energy-Circuits/ (http://www.next.gr/power-supplies/Free-Energy-Circuits/) :)

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 02, 2012, 05:31:43 AM

YEAH Things are coming to match. Analyse Jack NoSkills modification of transformer circuit. Again the same pattern just a bit modified.
And what I found is important but overlooked. Coil winding direction is assymetric to the location in space.For one coil it means nothing but when you have two and especially if you rectify sinewave passed through then in one position it will work while in opposite it won't.

This is probably nothing new for Dave because he said something about looking at coil from particle point of view. Now I know what it means (at least a bit more)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on September 02, 2012, 09:08:04 AM

hi everyone enjoy this simple collections:
http://www.next.gr/power-supplies/Free-Energy-Circuits/ (http://www.next.gr/power-supplies/Free-Energy-Circuits/) :)

otits ;D

Thanks Sir Tito for sharing this link.... :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 02, 2012, 09:52:58 AM

Iv been thinking of Tesla's transmitting and receiving patents.
We concentrate on building the transmitting portion of the device then try to pull energy out, but its unusable so most give up, maybe we need to build the receiving coils as well and instead of trying to conduct through air and ground hook both together.
One step at a time, Im going to get more wire this morning and wind the other side, this should be a very efficient system, but will the power be usable in this form or will we have to build the receiving circuit as well.
Just giving you guys something to think about.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 02, 2012, 10:00:35 AM

Someone else that feels the need to share

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/12234-record.html#post207353 (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/12234-record.html#post207353)

Thx
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 02, 2012, 01:20:04 PM

Quote from: ramset on September 02, 2012, 10:00:35 AM
Someone else that feels the need to share

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/12234-record.html#post207353 (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/12234-record.html#post207353)

Thx
Chet

I apparently have an acct, but I can only get this page no matter what I do. ;[

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 02, 2012, 01:25:41 PM

Am I crazy or wut? Is there a reason these coils, even though they are at a distance from one to another, that they are wound in opposite directions? :o Or, Im nuts. ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 02, 2012, 01:41:10 PM

For cracking this secret I think would be nice to have all Tesla patents related to wireless obtained in all countries around the world and compare the direction of windings.
Coriolis force ?! ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wizkycho on September 02, 2012, 01:58:12 PM

are those biffilar pancake or simple pancake coils ?

for those that wants some real FE action:
... You can make free energy generator using simple pancake coil in front of rotating disk magnet
and get lots and lots of usable voltages and currents (De palma, faraday homopolar gen like - but it those produces millivolts and kiloAmps
cause it uses only copper disk - no coil)

wiz

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 02, 2012, 01:59:22 PM

Quote from: forest on September 02, 2012, 01:41:10 PM
For cracking this secret I think would be nice to have all Tesla patents related to wireless obtained in all countries around the world and compare the direction of windings.
Coriolis force ?! ;)

If ya think about it, if one were to create 2 LC circuits, naturally the coils of each would most likely be wound the same, not one opposite. Even instructions on winding transformers recommends all windings in the same direction. Why is that? ;] And how many people just follow that leader? ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 02, 2012, 02:10:10 PM

Quote from: wizkycho on September 02, 2012, 01:58:12 PM
are those biffilar pancake or simple pancake coils ?

for those that wants some real FE action:
... You can make free energy generator using simple pancake coil in front of rotating disk magnet
and get lots and lots of usable voltages and currents (De palma, faraday homopolar gen like - but it those produces millivolts and kiloAmps
cause it uses only copper disk - no coil)

wiz

I dont think they are bifi in the drawings, will have to read the pat, havnt done that yet.

Thats very interesting what you say. Is there anything out there on this? Thanks ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 02, 2012, 04:03:05 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 02, 2012, 01:20:04 PM
I apparently have an acct, but I can only get this page no matter what I do. ;[

MaGs

Just create another account Magluvin1, if mod asks why, you have a reason.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 02, 2012, 05:00:10 PM

Thanks Ill try that. ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 02, 2012, 05:52:54 PM

Tarzan
These TESLA patents were filed recently in florida USA {below]

MAGS
This is all the info from that Energetic "for the record"Link
and these guys in florida are the inventors of note [HA!]

Original Assignee: Extremely Ingenious Engineering (http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=pts&hl=en&q=inassignee:%22Extremely+Ingenious+Engineering%22)

Patent US7940534 - Resonant transformer systems and methods of use - Google Patents (http://www.google.com/patents/US7940534)

Patent US7960867 - Methods and systems for wireless energy and data transmission - Google Patents (http://www.google.com/patents?id=TQLnAQAAEBAJ)

Patent US8098472 - System and method for controlling an electromagnetic field generator - Google Patents (http://www.google.com/patents?id=0C4BAgAAEBAJ)

PS
I have a solution for you on that Energetic "Block"
I'll get it to you
Thx
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 02, 2012, 09:41:10 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on September 02, 2012, 09:08:04 AM
hi everyone enjoy this simple collections:
http://www.next.gr/power-supplies/Free-Energy-Circuits/ (http://www.next.gr/power-supplies/Free-Energy-Circuits/) :)

otits ;D

Thanks Sir Tito for sharing this link.... :)

Want something more? then here's more:
http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Dfree%2Btesla%2Bcoil%2Bdia%2Bgrams&w=160&h=120&imgurl=www.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dfree%2Btesla%2Bcoil%2Bdia%2Bgrams%23focal%3D131a2b47f73a8e04494c40d3631bf4bf%26furl%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fwww.bibliotecapleyades.net%252fimagenes_tesla%252ftesla17_03.gif&size=&name=search&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dfree%2Btesla%2Bcoil%2Bdia%2Bgrams%23focal%3D131a2b47f73a8e04494c40d3631bf4bf%26furl%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fwww.bibliotecapleyades.net%252fimagenes_tesla%252ftesla17_03.gif&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dfree%2Btesla%2Bcoil%2Bdia%2Bgrams%23focal%3D131a2b47f73a8e04494c40d3631bf4bf%26furl%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fwww.bibliotecapleyades.net%252fimagenes_tesla%252ftesla17_03.gif&p=free+tesla+coil+diagrams&type=&no=1&tt=115&oid=http%3A%2F%2Fts4.mm.bing.net%2Fimages%2Fthumbnail.aspx%3Fq%3D5000656901637055%26id%3D9803149f6ee1131e8b1c3efd05fba850&tit=Typical+Tesla+Coil+Schematic&sigr=15j6o1m92&sigi=15c2121a1&sigb=123tph1ph&fr=yfp-t-701 (http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Dfree%2Btesla%2Bcoil%2Bdia%2Bgrams&w=160&h=120&imgurl=www.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dfree%2Btesla%2Bcoil%2Bdia%2Bgrams%23focal%3D131a2b47f73a8e04494c40d3631bf4bf%26furl%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fwww.bibliotecapleyades.net%252fimagenes_tesla%252ftesla17_03.gif&size=&name=search&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dfree%2Btesla%2Bcoil%2Bdia%2Bgrams%23focal%3D131a2b47f73a8e04494c40d3631bf4bf%26furl%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fwww.bibliotecapleyades.net%252fimagenes_tesla%252ftesla17_03.gif&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dfree%2Btesla%2Bcoil%2Bdia%2Bgrams%23focal%3D131a2b47f73a8e04494c40d3631bf4bf%26furl%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fwww.bibliotecapleyades.net%252fimagenes_tesla%252ftesla17_03.gif&p=free+tesla+coil+diagrams&type=&no=1&tt=115&oid=http%3A%2F%2Fts4.mm.bing.net%2Fimages%2Fthumbnail.aspx%3Fq%3D5000656901637055%26id%3D9803149f6ee1131e8b1c3efd05fba850&tit=Typical+Tesla+Coil+Schematic&sigr=15j6o1m92&sigi=15c2121a1&sigb=123tph1ph&fr=yfp-t-701)

or we can see them like this:
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-701&va=free+energy+diagrams (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-701&va=free+energy+diagrams)

ENJOY ;D :o

TO COPY ELECTRICITY THEN WE NEED TO CUT IT AND THAT WILL SERVE AS A MIRROR THEN ADD THEM TO PRODUCE BIG ONE . :)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 03, 2012, 09:30:55 AM

HV dc Pulse
http://makeagif.com/i/nIR8GC (http://makeagif.com/i/nIR8GC)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 03, 2012, 02:17:07 PM

Hey Dave

Im still not getting it. In your last animation, are we looking at a single coil with a HV pulse sent through its leads? And if so, Are you saying that if we put a pickup coil on one end of the pulsed coil, that the voltage/current will be different than if the pickup coil were on the opposite end of the pulsed coil?

If so, it seems odd that this info isnt more well known.

Will be doing tests tonight with my coil. Got to go to my shop for a few hours. Labor day labor. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 03, 2012, 03:11:07 PM

QuoteThe reason for this strange behavior is the inductor. When current first starts flowing in the coil, the coil wants to build up amagnetic field. While the field is building, the coil inhibits the flow of current. Once the field is built, current can flow normally through the wire. When the switch gets opened, the magnetic field around the coil keeps current flowing in the coil until the field collapses. This current keeps the bulb lit for a period of time even though the switch is open. In other words, an inductor can store energy in its magnetic field, and an inductor tends to resist any change in the amount of current flowing through it.

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/inductor1.htm (http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/inductor1.htm)

Quote
Back electromotive force is a voltage that occurs in electric motors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_motor) where there is relative motion between the armature (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armature_%28electrical_engineering%29) of the motor and the external magnetic field (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field)

Its very well known, just not understood, its a product of the magnetic field.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 03, 2012, 03:51:35 PM

Most switching power supply's and transformers use ac and using ac this action is not recognizable
http://makeagif.com/f4lh9N (http://makeagif.com/f4lh9N)
Notice in both secondary's we get voltage and amperage, how would it be recognizable.
But with a direct current source it is recognizable as femf and bemf.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 03, 2012, 04:42:50 PM

It would seem a strong enough magnetic field could tear space itself, maybe this is why they call the core of a galaxy a black hole.
If we think on how a pulsed coil works pulling in two directions from the center out, we can see how it creates a low pressure zone in the aether, they say the aether has a potential so creating a low pressure zone would draw in energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 03, 2012, 05:18:35 PM

Im not sure about this but I think the device I proposed will produce pulse dc, time will tell.
If it does it will clear up a couple of things, for me.
But then again maybe not, I havent figure out the difference between ac and dc yet. I know it has to do with the direction of current verses the direction of voltage.
I have a suspicion that current runs from neg to pos and voltage runs from pos to neg in a dc system but I havent proved this out.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on September 03, 2012, 08:07:36 PM

Hi All,

Since this thread is about "Energy Amplification". Here is an idea of creating parametric change in a coil to induce flux compression, high voltage and current pulses. This is something I've been wanting to try but haven't had the time yet. The idea is based off this patent:

US4266180: Method of and means for high performance direct current electrical pulse generation utilizing mechanical energy storage.

http://www.google.com/patents/US4266180

The way I have it drawn is to make it a linear device so that no brushes are required. This will also allow you to change the linear stroke length to stay between point A and B, minimize C. I have no idea if this will work it's just in a drawing stage for now so build at your own risk.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 03, 2012, 10:55:21 PM

Just a pic of the coils finished with a primary of 10awg fine strand wire.

I am going to go for the gusto and connect the 2 opposing coils in the middle and the ends set up to spark the center tap.

Going to try some simple low voltage pulses on the primary and step up as I go.

Lemme see, where are those gloves... ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 04, 2012, 03:36:59 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 03, 2012, 10:55:21 PM
Just a pic of the coils finished with a primary of 10awg fine strand wire.

I am going to go for the gusto and connect the 2 opposing coils in the middle and the ends set up to spark the center tap.

Going to try some simple low voltage pulses on the primary and step up as I go.

Lemme see, where are those gloves... ;]

MaGs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM-UtEMrZOA&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM-UtEMrZOA&feature=relmfu)

KABOOOOOOMMMMMM ;D

in the peak of explosion there we can collect :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 04, 2012, 07:35:53 AM

Kabaap! ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 04, 2012, 07:42:16 AM

I like it, nice :o
Stay asymmetrical my friend ;D
Do you incorporate a shorted coil into the system.
dave

The shorted coil acts as a catcher's mit, it keeps the pulses from leaving the system.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 04, 2012, 07:58:10 AM

I think your pulling on the secondary's, I havent looked at it from this perspective.
Something to think about.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 04, 2012, 08:00:06 AM

Hey dave

Well the secondary can be configured a few ways having 4 separate insulated wires in the white insulation. At first I will try a few things with all 4 as 1 and then try shorting some as in your diagram. ;]

Gota git to work.

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 04, 2012, 08:14:43 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 04, 2012, 08:00:06 AM
Hey dave

Well the secondary can be configured a few ways having 4 separate insulated wires in the white insulation. At first I will try a few things with all 4 as 1 and then try shorting some as in your diagram. ;]

Gota git to work.

MaGs

Sweet, versatility

I gota get to work too
later
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 04, 2012, 11:28:35 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8vnHVV25tU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 04, 2012, 11:39:06 PM

This is the first circuit Im going to try. ;]

Pretty simple.

I watched my Hells Kitchen(part one of 2) The finale and Masterchef, was the final 3, 1 is blind, Christine Ha. Simply amazing and inspiring. She made the final 2. ;]
Here is a 2.22 min clip of her attempt at apple pie. ;]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIGXboHpge0

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 04, 2012, 11:41:04 PM

Not sure what the diagram means by "shorted coil" on the right as it doesnt show so, but it does on the left.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 05, 2012, 06:51:09 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on September 04, 2012, 11:28:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8vnHVV25tU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8vnHVV25tU)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHswoNpc0Tk

QuoteThis put together using bailing wire ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 05, 2012, 08:17:49 AM

I wonder if the ccw secondary coil was iron wire and the cw secondary coil was copper.

Go down to question 12 look at the ignition coil, its primary is inducing a ccw and cw field into the secondary the ccw field(femf) runs into the iron frame of the car, the cw field(bemf) runs to the spark plug.
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/worksheets/bjt.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 05, 2012, 08:29:04 AM

Something else I noticed, coaxial wire has a magnetic wire in the center.
hmmmmmmmmm maybe ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 05, 2012, 08:37:23 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8vnHVV25tU
Notice the backwards diode
What does the AV plug do- separates voltage from amperage

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 06, 2012, 07:35:10 AM

I see how it multiply's energy now
Lets pulse one coil one time and see if we can see the reactions
Coil 1 fires its femf moves into the secondary and feeds out,
Its bemf is propelled towards coil 2, the bemf is spinning in the right direction for this coil, in other words we have induction, this fires coil 2 and coil 2's bemf fires coil 1, the reaction would be like a tank circuit but with the fields.
Now Im sure some of the bemf field passes the opposite coil but is caught by the shorted coil and feeds into that sides femf, no energy lost.
Now fire both sides out of phase.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gadgetmall on September 06, 2012, 08:11:05 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on September 05, 2012, 08:29:04 AM
Something else I noticed, coaxial wire has a magnetic wire in the center.
hmmmmmmmmm maybe ;D

Aha . Lets keep going with this idea. there is a way to wind on this type of core dielectric and turn that coil into a coiled capacitor capable of retaining energy and releasing it in a delayed fashion .i posted the details in another thread i think joule ringer .Don't know if it's a relationship but I think this is what is overlooked that we need a delayed interaction if want self sustained energy output . I may have accidentally done this without understanding what is really going on in there in Some rouge Circuit's , I am working on that aspect the last few weeks and of coarse this could be applied to higher voltage small current for reduction to usable energy . Nice thread and i believe you got something there. IF there is anything you need me to try i will as time allows . i have heaps of junk to play with .

Gadget

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 06, 2012, 08:11:32 AM

Two hearts beating as one
The energy it will consume will be negligible
The energy out enormous

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 06, 2012, 08:25:15 AM

The Father
The Son
The Holy Spirit

Tesla knew the importance of three
He knew it pointed to God

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on September 06, 2012, 11:07:29 PM

Caduceus-wound coils... in effect, a coil that is at right angles to itself. Very interesting properties that you might want to check out. Especially in combination with the usual hairpin bifilars and tricky trifilars, or even ordinary single, round, aircore coils.

And...er..... I'm not really sure about that Tesla attribution. Got a reference I can check?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 07, 2012, 12:38:43 AM

Caduceus coil. Tito did mention a figure 8. Forest should remember that. I believe we thought he was talking about a "figure" 8, a diagram from Tesla or something.

If I remember correctly, these coils caused headaches for experimenters in the Kapanadze thread. I didnt want to risk it as I get migraines. I dont want to do anything that might trigger that. Car fumes, more the ones from cars that are not running correctly or too rich, are my kryptonite. there are probably other trigger also, but I have not identified them yet.

If you dont mind me asking, can you explain what the difference is with this coil or describe the result compared to a regular coil? ;]

And are the windings 90deg at crossings or could it be 1 coil wound one direction and another wound on top of the first in the opposite direction? Resulting in more crossings per length of coil, just not at steep angles.

Thanks

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on September 07, 2012, 01:04:28 AM

90 degree crossings, with plenty of room between the "X"s. They are supposed to produce longitudinal scalar waves, whatever they are. I've used one to transmit a signal to a receiver inside a pretty good Faraday cage... don't know if I can repeat that though, have to check. I'm not sure just how a conventional receiver picks up scalar transmissions, but maybe that doesn't matter... since I don't believe they exist anyway. Doesn't keep me from using them when I can, though.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 07, 2012, 07:15:07 AM

If you want to use Wilbert Smith's tensor coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 07, 2012, 07:22:51 AM

something you might try, if you want to use the tensor coil

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 07, 2012, 07:41:02 AM

Lots of possible combinations with these coils.
Wilbert Smith said this coil design was given to him by aliens, they told him it was a very important coil.
I never liked it because of its association with the serpent.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 07, 2012, 08:22:42 AM

Im sure there are more

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 07, 2012, 08:30:59 AM

Its basically a cw and ccw coil interlaced

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 07, 2012, 09:49:06 AM

very interesting
http://www.disclose.tv/news/Killer_Solar_Flare_predicted_for_December_20_2012/85893

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 07, 2012, 09:57:35 AM

This diagram cannot be true counter rotating fields create antigravity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uHoZI-ZWyE
and a normal magnet does not show signs of antigravity

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ionizer on September 07, 2012, 10:01:39 AM

It is true high speed spinning magnetic fields produce cooper pairs to form a bose condensate which interact with the local gravity field.
Also rotating superconductors do.
Not magnets.

If we ever want to fly without fossil fuel this will be it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 07, 2012, 10:16:53 AM

I made a few changes
This is the driving force that spins our planet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 07, 2012, 10:33:15 AM

wind patterns

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 07, 2012, 10:47:14 AM

Quote from: ionizer on September 07, 2012, 10:01:39 AM
It is true high speed spinning magnetic fields produce cooper pairs to form a bose condensate which interact with the local gravity field.
Also rotating superconductors do.
Not magnets.

If we ever want to fly without fossil fuel this will be it.

Yes counter rotating fields produce antigravity, Boyd Bushman proved this with his drop experiment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf5DOpWtRfg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 07, 2012, 12:17:08 PM

;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on September 08, 2012, 01:44:20 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on September 07, 2012, 08:30:59 AM
Its basically a cw and ccw coil interlaced

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/dlattach/attach/114857/image//
A caduceus coil! :o What if we make a secondary coil a caduceus coil? Has any one tried this? Would that make the secondary non reflective to input?, like if we use it as a caduceus primary?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on September 08, 2012, 05:27:27 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on September 08, 2012, 01:44:20 AM
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/dlattach/attach/114857/image// (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/dlattach/attach/114857/image//)
A caduceus coil! :o What if we make a secondary coil a caduceus coil? Has any one tried this? Would that make the secondary non reflective to input?, like if we use it as a caduceus primary?

The idea is to have the fields of the two parts of the coil at right angles. That is why the crossings should be at right angles. With the steeper angles shown in the sketches and the springs, you aren't going to get the effect, whatever that might be, at full strength.

I've dug out my Caduceus scalar EM transmitter and made a short video showing how it can transmit a modulated carrier signal into my small Faraday cage with almost no attenuation. This little cage blocks my wireless power system completely, and produces a 65 dB drop in the signal strength of a local AM broadcast station on my little radio. But the signal from the Caduceus coil and its driver circuit make it through with hardly any attenuation at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-MA8rzZSqk

Do I believe in scalar longitudinal EM ? Not so sure I do. But whatever, these coils do have interesting effects. Antigravity? Er.... let's wait and see, I'm not convinced so far.

OK, didn't mean to divert the thread but it seemed like you might have needed some info on Caduceus coils and effects.

I think I got the circuit in the video and the basic design idea from JLN Labs, Jean-Louis Naudin, but it has been so long ago that I really can't remember.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 08, 2012, 07:25:22 AM

The forces that spin our planet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 08, 2012, 09:13:35 AM

The electric field of a magnet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on September 08, 2012, 09:58:18 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on September 08, 2012, 05:27:27 AM
The idea is to have the fields of the two parts of the coil at right angles. That is why the crossings should be at right angles. With the steeper angles shown in the sketches and the springs, you aren't going to get the effect, whatever that might be, at full strength.

I've dug out my Caduceus scalar EM transmitter and made a short video showing how it can transmit a modulated carrier signal into my small Faraday cage with almost no attenuation. This little cage blocks my wireless power system completely, and produces a 65 dB drop in the signal strength of a local AM broadcast station on my little radio. But the signal from the Caduceus coil and its driver circuit make it through with hardly any attenuation at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-MA8rzZSqk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-MA8rzZSqk)

Do I believe in scalar longitudinal EM ? Not so sure I do. But whatever, these coils do have interesting effects. Antigravity? Er.... let's wait and see, I'm not convinced so far.

OK, didn't mean to divert the thread but it seemed like you might have needed some info on Caduceus coils and effects.

I think I got the circuit in the video and the basic design idea from JLN Labs, Jean-Louis Naudin, but it has been so long ago that I really can't remember.

Thanks for the info, I do need to read more... ;) By the way nice experiments you are doing... Continue to share... ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on September 08, 2012, 10:27:05 AM

Hi Dave45,
While I was playing with my rotor, spinning at 1500 rpm (the upper magnets is N facing, then the lower magnets S facing) if I put a small magnet loosely on top of the N facing magnet And let it spin, it makes a clockwise spin, then with the S side it's counterclockwise, while looking at your posted pictures I can confirm that a magnets magnetic fields has a clockwise & counterclockwise spin! Cool! :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 08, 2012, 11:54:25 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on September 08, 2012, 10:27:05 AM
Hi Dave45,
While I was playing with my rotor, spinning at 1500 rpm (the upper magnets is N facing, then the lower magnets S facing) if I put a small magnet loosely on top of the N facing magnet And let it spin, it makes a clockwise spin, then with the S side it's counterclockwise, while looking at your posted pictures I can confirm that a magnets magnetic fields has a clockwise & counterclockwise spin! Cool! :o

Something I would try if working with mag gen

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 09, 2012, 01:58:29 AM

ok! >:(

Do you know why john bedini uses a lot of coils in his devices?

that is actually the reason to satisfy the certain condition tesla talks about ok? ! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 09, 2012, 08:42:03 AM

Hi Tito, I hope your not upset Im posting alot in your thread.
I just think we need to understand the system :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 09, 2012, 12:03:56 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Spur_gears_animation.gif

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 09, 2012, 02:49:52 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 09, 2012, 01:58:29 AM
ok! >:(

Do you know why john bedini uses a lot of coils in his devices?

that is actually the reason to satisfy the certain condition tesla talks about ok? ! >:(

Why the >:( faces Teets? Its been what, 3 years or more since you have started giving clues and nobody has gotten it. And now you are >:( ??? Why is that?

It is clear that if you really wanted us to get it, someone would have gotten it by now. >:(

Bedini used what, 3 coils? >:(

1 coil for drive, 1 coil for drive feedback control, and 1 for output. >:(

So we can discharge 1 battery to charge another? The way I see it, the only extra work we get from that is that we have to 'work' to switch the batteries around to start the cycle over again. >:( >:( >:( >:(

MaGs >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on September 09, 2012, 03:26:30 PM

@all

I have already said this from day....maybe 5...that tito has nothing to offer. I cant believe that anyone is still following him. Just as Mag said it's been years of clues and no ou/fe results. Really ask yourself the question of why you are still following him.

The most logical explanation is most likely to be right!!!!!!!

:o lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 09, 2012, 05:34:06 PM

If you look at magnets as gears hear is something interesting, the shaft is stationary the gears move around the shaft.
Strong directional fields.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 09, 2012, 06:01:03 PM

beautiful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gifFUkcVLoM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gifFUkcVLoM)
notice his magnets moving out in cw and ccw directions, ;)
probably no torque but a beautiful working machine.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on September 10, 2012, 01:23:58 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on September 09, 2012, 06:01:03 PM
beautiful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gifFUkcVLoM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gifFUkcVLoM)
notice his magnets moving out in cw and ccw directions, ;)
probably no torque but a beautiful working machine.

Right! But with bigger setup it can do beautiful things!

@Mags, chillax dude! Tito is always like this >:( Unpredictable lol, but I believe he's helping us the best that he could offer ;D Lol!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 10, 2012, 03:50:02 AM

Quote from: stprue on September 09, 2012, 03:26:30 PM
@all

I have already said this from day....maybe 5...that tito has nothing to offer. I cant believe that anyone is still following him. Just as Mag said it's been years of clues and no ou/fe results. Really ask yourself the question of why you are still following him.

The most logical explanation is most likely to be right!!!!!!!

:o lol

hey! >:(

Why are you here! >:( ohhhh maybe you are following me in the background huh :o

i did not told anyone to follow me ok !!!!? >:(

in spite of what i had given in this forum and still you're unthankful! >:( [size=78%], ungrateful![/size] >:( [size=78%] [/size] :o ???
YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU! >:( >:( >:(

@mags
i always said this : one small thick primaries, one little bigger than primaries, look like secondaries but will become one big primaries at the time a first primary is pulsed. third, fourth, fifth, sixth coils.... collectors.

spark gap is optional to small fine coils.

OK! ONE THING MORE YOU REALLY NEED THE OZONE PATENT.

I TOLD THIS TO OTHER THREAD : THE SECRET DOESN'T GO ANY FARTHER TO THE PATENTS OF TESLA OK!

DID BEDINI SHOW YOU HOW REALLY HE MADE HIS COIL? ??? THINK. THE SECRET IS IN COILING OK! >:(
ITS A REACTION IN THE FIRST PRIMARY WHEN PULSED AND MAKE A BIG KICK.

DON'T FORGET WHAT STEVEN MARK HAD SAID ABOUT CONVERTING SMALL KICKS INTO BIG KICK OK! THAT'S THE EFFECT OF THE SECRET.

if still don't get it then just follow STPRUE THE BRILLIANT AMONG THE #@$%%^$%^&$%^&$%^&^%&^%& JOKE ;)

YOU DON'T WANT THIS >:(

OK ;) :) :P

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 10, 2012, 07:18:17 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on September 10, 2012, 01:23:58 AM

Right! But with bigger setup it can do beautiful things!

I wonder if you wound cw and ccw coils on the magnet up top and spun the drum ???

The easiest system should be the pulsed coil system, it has to be powered from the center out just like the V gate magnet motor we looked at.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 10, 2012, 07:29:42 AM

The system will pull on the shorted coil's magnetic field, when this happens the shorted coil still has current running through the wire so it draws from the aether, it will pump energy.
femf bemf fmeb fmef ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on September 10, 2012, 11:46:46 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 10, 2012, 03:50:02 AM

hey! >:(

Why are you here! >:( ohhhh maybe you are following me in the background huh :o

i did not told anyone to follow me ok !!!!? >:(

in spite of what i had given in this forum and still you're unthankful! >:( [size=78%], ungrateful![/size] >:( [size=78%] [/size] :o ???
YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU! >:( >:( >:(

@mags
i always said this : one small thick primaries, one little bigger than primaries, look like secondaries but will become one big primaries at the time a first primary is pulsed. third, fourth, fifth, sixth coils.... collectors.

spark gap is optional to small fine coils.

OK! ONE THING MORE YOU REALLY NEED THE OZONE PATENT.

I TOLD THIS TO OTHER THREAD : THE SECRET DOESN'T GO ANY FARTHER TO THE PATENTS OF TESLA OK!

DID BEDINI SHOW YOU HOW REALLY HE MADE HIS COIL? ??? THINK. THE SECRET IS IN COILING OK! >:(
ITS A REACTION IN THE FIRST PRIMARY WHEN PULSED AND MAKE A BIG KICK.

DON'T FORGET WHAT STEVEN MARK HAD SAID ABOUT CONVERTING SMALL KICKS INTO BIG KICK OK! THAT'S THE EFFECT OF THE SECRET.

if still don't get it then just follow STPRUE THE BRILLIANT AMONG THE #@$%%^$%^&$%^&$%^&^%&^%& JOKE ;)

YOU DON'T WANT THIS >:(

OK ;) :) :P

;D

lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 11, 2012, 12:10:03 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on September 10, 2012, 01:23:58 AM

@Mags, chillax dude! Tito is always like this >:( Unpredictable lol, but I believe he's helping us the best that he could offer ;D Lol!

Yea, I know. I was just a lil ticked over the >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( .

I have done many setups and experiments using some of the mixed ingredients that Tito has presented over time. At times when I am doing and posting, he would change up on what Im doing into something different. And the change up isnt complete either. So I just feel left at the cross roads, without direction. Ive looked at the patents, but I dont know where the 'twist' is suppose to go, or even what it is suppose to be. lol how could I? :-\ Sometimes I feel like super man, only to always end up with kryptonite circuits.

Im tired.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 11, 2012, 02:52:09 AM

ok sorry about the face, because i just felt something like disappointed about the development in this thread.

i don't exactly know if dave got it already but it seems that the way is changing. lol :D

its just actually a tail ok. simple as that. :)

so lonely today bye. :) :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 11, 2012, 07:30:46 AM

I guess I was pushing the development of this thread and I know its all talk, but I just wanted you to see what I see, the pulsed coil device I described is the one I intend to build,
But what if I built the device showed it in a vid, do you think I could really talk about it and explain how it works?
No I would probably be so scared I would clam up, but in this way you will know how it works and see it in a whole new light, there may be a better way if so you will understand how it works.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 11, 2012, 07:55:59 AM

Energy moves in a magnet or coil from the center out in both directions, look at how we generate electricity now, on the end of the magnet, both ends, because it moves from the center out.
The v-gate motor shows the principle, I have never built one but I can promise you it works, when the top magnet is lifted is the same as a pulse, the pulsed coil system will be cheaper to build and put out more power.
When its time

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 11, 2012, 08:13:31 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bZfwQAAMk0
I cant understand his language but I think he understands, he shows the principle in alot of his vids, in this vid watch the coil vibrate from the center out, this action is caused by the field around the outside of the coil not from the core.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on September 11, 2012, 11:51:48 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on September 11, 2012, 08:13:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bZfwQAAMk0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bZfwQAAMk0)
I cant understand his language but I think he understands, he shows the principle in alot of his vids, in this vid watch the coil vibrate from the center out, this action is caused by the field around the outside of the coil not from the core.

It's "electromechanical resonance of the solenoid"
below it's written "pulsed DC 40A, 1-40GHz".

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Groundloop on September 11, 2012, 01:09:19 PM

Quote from: Qwert on September 11, 2012, 11:51:48 AM
It's "electromechanical resonance of the solenoid"
below it's written "pulsed DC 40A, 1-40GHz".

I got 1 - 40 Hz by Google translation.

GL.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 11, 2012, 03:56:46 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbFqVh7GdGk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbFqVh7GdGk)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on September 11, 2012, 07:01:27 PM

Quote from: Groundloop on September 11, 2012, 01:09:19 PM
I got 1 - 40 Hz by Google translation.

GL.

I'm not sure, I'm not Russian. I know only for sure that those two letters behind the "40" number - stand for "G"- the first one and "c"- the second one. So, I guess it means - "Giga" and "cycle".

Sorry, I remind now: their "hertz" sounds like "gertz". And their "c" sounds like "tz" (Gerc ?). So, it must be "hertz", not "gigahertz", for sure. Mea culpa. Their "Hertz" not only sounds like "Gertz", they also write their way, "Gerc". Their short "gigahertz" could be "GGc" for "GigaGerc"; remember: their c = tz.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 12, 2012, 12:57:10 AM

Quote from: forest on September 11, 2012, 03:56:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbFqVh7GdGk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbFqVh7GdGk)

That's it, i think i have nothing more to say.

Sorry if i made everyone mad at me but thank you for those who accept me. ;) [size=78%] [/size]

Its all up to you now how to do it. God bless and once again. goodbye cause i have nothing more to offer. :)

i'll miss you everyone.

Tito L. Oracion now signing off ;)
And this is the real me => :)

bye.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on September 12, 2012, 01:23:45 AM

Thank's Sir Tito, but don't you go away! We need you here, well miss this >:( ! Whattttttt! Haiyaaaa! Hi guys! Lol Just kidding ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 12, 2012, 12:09:43 PM

femf bemf fmeb fmef
<==== ====>

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on September 12, 2012, 11:29:45 PM

Have you seen this video?
Melnichenko ÑÑ...ÐµÐ¼Ð° Ð¸ Ð¼Ð¾Ð´ÐµÐ»ÑŒ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYwTVN4orqw&feature=related

Attached is transcript of english caption which is hard to read sometimes on the video.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 13, 2012, 03:08:31 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on September 12, 2012, 12:09:43 PM
femf bemf fmeb fmef
<==== ====>

Hey Dave

Have you tried this coil setup? Just wondering. I havnt yet. Not sure in your configuration, but wont a shorted coil cause excessive input? Like a shorted secondary of a normal transformer?

I took a break from the bench for a few days. Was getting frustrated. I lose hope for time periods. Like I get up, go to work, and all day, I do my job well, but my mind is on the bench. While Im at work, I have all this positive brain work going on, but then I get home and the ideas dont seem so great anymore. Almost every day for some time now.

Its like Im in dream land by day and locked in a cage at night. Im just frikin burned out.

Been doin some work on my bikes(electric), and Xfactor tonight was ok. Christine Ha(blind) won Masterchef. She was amazing. Im beginning to think there is a life, away from the bench. :o ;) When I get home from work, my laptop is on and I check in here frequently. It may look like im logged on for long periods, but I just dont close out my firefox till bed time.

Im working on a dc to dc power supply for my 48v bike. I want the bike to get over 50v till the batteries cant run the power supply any longer. The batteries are lead acid agm 12ah x4 in series. When they are fully charged and pumped up before riding, the things a rocket. And I want that during a whole battery cycle by regulating the power supply to an adjustable above 50v range. Not sure yet, but if the motor controler can take 60v, it will do 30mph easy. Does 25 now, front wheel brushless, and spins the tire on takeoff, with my full weight, 215, and the bike is about 70lb.

I have to look into the whole circuit of the controller to see if 60v will take. The input caps are 63v, but other parts may need adjustment in order for the controller to work properly.

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 13, 2012, 03:28:35 AM

I understand you Mags. I have a dreams with working devices and everything is easy but then I built them according to description from my dream or imagination and I don't know how to power them.
Now they are laying (some even for for almost 2 years) on my shelf...

My advice is : build Jack NoSkills transformer setup. I'm in the process of making it, because it can show the principles my other devices operate as well : two or more resonant circuits operate in non disturbing manner : one is a "kicker" for the other which is the "output". Unidirectional energy transfer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 13, 2012, 08:12:29 AM

Hey Mags
No I havent built it yet, I know what you mean by burnt out, I have my own handy man service I remodel existing structures and add small additions it seems when Im not working hands on Im home making out proposals,invoices or on the phone chasing material prices. Then this is always on my mind, my work and home life has suffered, but the Lord blessed me with a good wife who try's to understand, some things are more important than self.

Have you ever felt you finally found something in life you were supposed to do, I feel its something we can understand, we have spent the last 100 years working with action reaction and building circuits to use the energy without trying to understand why, we need to know why and how, it will be very simple when we find it.
I feel if I bury myself in building circuits I wont see the whole picture so I have spent my time trying to find the working mechanism of the magnetic field, this is where I believe the answer will be found.

Something that has been bugging me with the device I proposed is the reaction of the secondary coil, I see how the primary will react and the shorted coil but the reaction of the secondary when current runs through it will be the same as the primary, I feel the bemf from the secondary will react the same as the primary but how will it effect the primary as it moves across it, I guess I'll have to build it to find out.

Id better get back to my second job- making a living ;D
paper work, paper work
it never stops, Id much rather drive a nail :D
later dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ariovaldo on September 13, 2012, 08:48:24 AM

Hi Dave !

Probably this is the first time that Iâ€™m posting here, Iâ€™m too old to remember what happened 2 year agoâ€¦. :-[

I have been working as Industrial Electric Maintenance Manager for more than 30 years and after do everything in a conventional way, Iâ€™m feeling like you.

It is not possible that â€œwe already know everythingâ€! There is a lot to learn and find out and having guys like you, we will to nail that.

Sorry about my English.

Best Regardsâ€¦

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 13, 2012, 09:14:11 PM

The electric bikes sounds like a fun project, I kick myself I missed an electric car awhile back, we knew this old man down the road had an electric car for years I would go by his house and try to catch him outside, I wanted to ask him if he wanted to sell it then one day it was gone, should of knocked on his door. :(
Oh well if I had bought it I would have probably went down a different path, I would have been trying to build wind turbines to extend its range, just wasnt meant to be I guess.
I went the other day and bought 12 ga wire when I got back I realized I was using 14 ga, so today I went and bought the right wire tomorrow I'll finish winding my coils.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 13, 2012, 10:04:59 PM

I have 2 fieros, one, v6 with 80 shot NOS and another stripped down for an electric conversion. 9in NetGain motor, keep the 3 speed automatic, add batteries, controller and a charger.
The motors might say 18hp, but that is continuous. Peaks can be 150hp. It only takes about 16hp to keep 60mph.

I like speed, but prefer efficiency. Electric is about 1/4 the price of gas to do the same miles. Gas engines are about 30 to 35% eff at extracting motive force from burning gas. We could probably easily get double gas mileage burning gas to boil water for a steam engine.

Instead of bringing a whole tank of water to a boil, work out a way to just boil small amounts of water in the tank, this way water can be pumped a bit at a time from the bottom of the tank to the hot steamer at the top, inside the tank, to avoid needing high pressure to pump water into the boiler, while it is pressurized, because the water is already in the tank. :o

BP put out an article saying that electric cars are not a good buy and hybrids are the future. Yeah, right. Anything to keep us at the pump.

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on September 14, 2012, 01:16:28 AM

A polish guy transforms regular cars into electrics since 1996 or so. He also keeps a site; unfortunately, only in polish. Smile to @forest, he can translate if not busy. I also can translate but I'm lazy, too much tech terminology:
http://www.samochodyelektryczne.pl/ (http://www.samochodyelektryczne.pl/)

Also read this:
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/06/student-hybrid-car-project-could-bring-millions-to-tennessee-university/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 14, 2012, 07:19:33 AM

Conversion is not really the problem its the cost, a dc motor with enough horsepower is expensive then all the other components.
I wonder if the ac motors they use on oil wells would work there will be alot of them on the market soon ;D
That was not nice Im sorry :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 14, 2012, 08:53:27 AM

could we use a pwm and spdt ssr to control the pulses
the ssr is kinda pricey
http://www.newark.com/amperite/12da-ahdfa/solid-state-flasher-spdt-10sec/dp/28B472 (http://www.newark.com/amperite/12da-ahdfa/solid-state-flasher-spdt-10sec/dp/28B472)
but it is adjustable, no pwm needed

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 14, 2012, 07:05:25 PM

Quote from: forest on September 13, 2012, 03:28:35 AM
I understand you Mags. I have a dreams with working devices and everything is easy but then I built them according to description from my dream or imagination and I don't know how to power them.
Now they are laying (some even for for almost 2 years) on my shelf...

My advice is : build Jack NoSkills transformer setup. I'm in the process of making it, because it can show the principles my other devices operate as well : two or more resonant circuits operate in non disturbing manner : one is a "kicker" for the other which is the "output". Unidirectional energy transfer.

I would like to see more before I get out of my bench of many projects. ;] I just got a bit turned away as JkNo first considered what he had shown as possible OU, but others didnt see it in their setups. So then it progressed to different input freq, and la dee da...

So Im guna wait on that one.

Thinking about Titos 'tail' comment at work today. Some things started comming to mind....

"tail' Well, it must be a coil that is only connected at 1 end. Tail. 1 connection the other end free, not connected to anything.

Now if we have a coil such as the one I made or like what is shown in the Utkin file, opposing coils joined (connected) in the middle, where we have only one half of the whole connected to our circuit at both ends, while the other coils end is free, open, no connection, then we could say that one coil, the one connected to the circuit at both ends is the 'current' side of the 2 coils, and the open coil, only connected in the middle, is the 'voltage' side. So the one connected to the circuit has current because it is connected at both ends to our circuit, and the other open coil probably has higher voltage 'across' it because it has no load. So its voltage would probably measure higher than a voltage measurement of the fully connected coil, as it is loaded, with our circuit.

So maybe this is what is meant when it is said that one side of the coil is current and the other, opposing coil, volts. :o ??? :)

I can only imagine that the open opposing voltage coil, has some affect on the goings on with the current coil, while in operation. Whether its electric fields, or just the fact that the volts coil might have the ability of injecting its HV into the current coil with its 1 end, and most likely HV like a Tesla coil, ignition coil, etc.

Doesnt seem like it would work, but I dont know yet. Just ideas of trying to make some sense of it all and maybe im making a connection.

Will think more on this and try some things. ;)

MaGs :o :o >:( >:( ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 14, 2012, 07:26:59 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on September 14, 2012, 07:19:33 AM
Conversion is not really the problem its the cost, a dc motor with enough horsepower is expensive then all the other components.
I wonder if the ac motors they use on oil wells would work there will be alot of them on the market soon ;D
That was not nice Im sorry :D

Unless you need lots of HP, the 9in NetGain motor can be had for $1500 or less. A good programmable controller bout $1200. Then batteries. Depending on your wallet, $2000 to $60,000. $2000 will be lead acid deep cycle and about 40 to 60 mpc miles per charge all the way to a 200 mpc lithium pack.

The last big cost will depend on who you know. The transmission mounting plate. They are readily available for some cars and near 700 to 900. But if you know a machinist, you can save on that part.

If it costs $6000 for the basic parts to build it, and I can save 2 to 3 grand a year vs pump gas, the install could be paid for in a few years.

I have a good grip on gas vs electric. Experience with the bikes and studying for the car build for some years, I am definitely pro electric.

Heck the got a 13in motor with a drive shaft universal and ya get rid of the tranny and go direct to the drive shaft. These cars drag race. ;] But im just looking for decent transportation without having to break the bank at the pump.

2 Harbor Freight $150 45 what solar panels could charge my bike full in 1 day. So ya have 2 sets of batteries, so that day riding is not interrupted. That is if electricity becomes unaffordable. ;] Right now a full charge is about 12 to 15 cents for 20mi. Bang bang.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 14, 2012, 08:32:24 PM

Hmm we could cut cost by getting rid of those heavy batteries ;D
I think Im going to us a regular spdt relay and a pwm, with this setup I should at least be able to see if Im going to get the effect Im hoping for, I can always go solid state later.
Its time I got busy
dave

Oh I watched this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynLNZ9WjWSU awesome, if youv ever wondered about the Zodiac watch this vid, it starts out slow but gets very interesting

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 15, 2012, 10:06:54 AM

I said once that the coil configuration could be wound on a toroid, but after looking at the gear representation (fig.4) there would have to be changes made.
Still studying, bought the spdt relay today, finally figured out the pin layout
I'll get around to testing soon

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 16, 2012, 09:26:01 AM

My pwm will not run the relay
Im going to build a rotary spark gap, Im sure it can be done ss but with my limited electronics experience the spark gap will be easier, besides I can pulse both coils alternately using a rotary spark gap.
Iv also read a mechanical make and break device produces a sharper inductive collapse, we'll see.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on September 16, 2012, 06:40:28 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on September 16, 2012, 09:26:01 AM
My pwm will not run the relay
Im going to build a rotary spark gap, Im sure it can be done ss but with my limited electronics experience the spark gap will be easier, besides I can pulse both coils alternately using a rotary spark gap.
Iv also read a mechanical make and break device produces a sharper inductive collapse, we'll see.
dave

Hi Dave45,

Just a suggestion, if you want to control a relay on and off or alternately, you can use a simple running lights controller with speed control... ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 25, 2012, 08:01:09 AM

A vector field
3-D Magnetostatic Field Simulation (http://www.falstad.com/vector3dm/)
Use the field selection for different views.
This is the field that transfer's energy from one coil to another-induction

Title: Relay Self-Oscillation
Post by: Bob Smith on September 25, 2012, 01:26:28 PM

Hi Dave,
Not sure if this would be of help, but it is one way of getting an oscillating/pulsed signal with just a relay and DC, without any solid state components -- nikolatesla411 spelled it out on EF (and it does work) in this thread, in this post and another post on the previous page: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/473-radiant-energy-5.html#post185517 (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/473-radiant-energy-5.html#post185517)
GTG - at the end of my lunch hour at work.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 25, 2012, 04:07:09 PM

Hey Bob
Yea I found it on the tube, it works but need to limit current or it burns the relay, but I like the mechanical switch,
Thanks
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 25, 2012, 04:19:37 PM

This is the way I see the coil system working

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 25, 2012, 04:31:14 PM

Two Tesla coils back to back one delivering high voltage one delivering high amperage
Its all in the winding, and pulsing the system out of phase.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 25, 2012, 04:32:03 PM

double post not sure why, Im having trouble posting here and at energetic :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 25, 2012, 06:02:57 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on September 25, 2012, 04:19:37 PM
This is the way I see the coil system working

Hey Dave

I get what you mean but just taking 2 ign coils and putting them back to back doesnt change the winding direction from one to another. Try it with 2 coils. ;] So one of the ign coils would have to be rewound in order to get opposing windings.

I took one apart, can type. The oil takes quite some time to drain from the windings and paper layers. Stinky too. Wanted to see if the core material was any diff back in the 60s. Was laminated strips like a trans former. I read somewhere that some older coils had, what we might call, special materials for the core. Havnt come across a really old one yet.

Just wanted to clear that up so nobody goes out and buys coils expecting opposing windings from on to another. ;]

MaGs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 25, 2012, 07:40:52 PM

Oh yea its not just two ignition coils, that was just for reference, the way the coils need to be connected.

Here's a simple experiment take two coils one cw and one ccw, power the ccw from the left and notice the magnetic pole, now power the cw coil from the right and notice the pole. You would think that powering two coils from opposite ends would give opposite poles but it doesnt. A very simple experiment but a very important one.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 25, 2012, 07:59:46 PM

Ok Utkin and Don Smith show diagrams where one side of the coil is volts and one side amps.

So if north is always amperage and south is always voltage and we pulse the coils from the center as shown, our femf in one coil should be amperage and the femf in the other coil should be voltage.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on September 27, 2012, 02:36:19 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on September 25, 2012, 07:59:46 PM
Ok Utkin and Don Smith show diagrams where one side of the coil is volts and one side amps.

So if north is always amperage and south is always voltage and we pulse the coils from the center as shown, our femf in one coil should be amperage and the femf in the other coil should be voltage.

dave

What is voltage, what is amperage? Can you explain them to me, Dave?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 27, 2012, 07:32:32 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on September 27, 2012, 02:36:19 AM
What is voltage, what is amperage? Can you explain them to me, Dave?

cw and ccw fields, separate they cant do work but together they can, in a magnetic field they are benign because they are separated.
High voltage will not hurt you
High amperage will not hurt you
But if you put them together they will kill.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 27, 2012, 07:59:56 AM

This pic is a picture of the magnetic field collapsing inside a cathode tube (TV), as long as the magnetic field is on the particles are separated but when turned off they combine to form the electron, they are in a high energy state because they have been spun up in the magnetic field, nature seeks neutrality, in there high energy state they seek a lower potential to become neutral again.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on September 27, 2012, 06:16:18 PM

Hi dave, that picture looks like a tornado.
peace love light
tyson ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on September 29, 2012, 04:05:53 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on September 27, 2012, 07:32:32 AM
cw and ccw fields, separate they cant do work but together they can, in a magnetic field they are benign because they are separated.
High voltage will not hurt you
High amperage will not hurt you
But if you put them together they will kill.

That doesn't seem like an answer to me, Dave. I asked, What is voltage, what is amperage. And your reply is "cw and ccw fields"?
Now I have to ask you to tell me what are cw and ccw fields.

I suppose that the charge pressure from packing a bunch of like unit charges together, or the rate at which like unit charges pass a measurement point, are great mysteries to you.

Just what "particles" are combining to produce electrons in your image of the CRT? What are electrons, anyway, Dave?

If magnetic fields separate "cw and ccw fields" so that they are "benign" and can't do work.... how can an electric motor turn?

Quotecw and ccw fields, separate they cant do work but together they can, in a magnetic field they are benign because they are separated.

Let me give you another interpretation of your CRT image. The electron gun is emitting electrons throughout the entire picture. The vertical and horizontal scans, which are controlled by ELECTRIC FIELDS on deflection plates adjacent to the electron beam, are decaying because their amplifiers are not powered any more. The electron gun itself has a big capacitor behind it so it continues to produce its beam for a bit longer than the H and V amps continue to work. As the electric field on the deflection plates decreases the electron beam deflects less and less, until finally it is just a single point, which goes out as the gun's supply of _voltage_ decreases to zero as the charge on the caps bleeds away. Nothing is being recombined, the electron is a fundamental and elementary particle, not made from other separable particles (at least not at the energies available inside a CRT !!) and your description is severely flawed.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 29, 2012, 05:38:48 AM

Could be, I dont have all the answers, just my own observations and they may be flawed as you say.
But I will continue, I would like your opinion or anyones opinion on a circuit.
http://www.daenotes.com/electronics/digital-electronics/bistable-multivibrators-working-construction-types#axzz27p18dMpf
I want to pulse two coils out of phase.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 29, 2012, 06:33:35 AM

I froze a coil in ice and saw the A vector field and I have studied it by looking at galaxy's and every vid I could watch of your experiments, the magnetic field or the A vector field has to be split from the center out to ever achieve ou.
I have seen it in the mechanical form and it can be done with just coils.
The A vector field is the energy field the magnetic field is the axle it turns on.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on September 29, 2012, 06:48:57 AM

a mechanical capstan - now as electrical analogon ?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/54457395/11/SIX-APPLICATIONS-FOR-MECHANICAL-POWER-AMPLIFIERS

Sincerely
CdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 29, 2012, 06:56:57 AM

There are two mechanical devices Romero's gen and the v gate magnetic motor vid I referred to, both are pulsed from the center out.
This is where we have to go to ever get ou.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 29, 2012, 07:21:59 AM

We can work together or we can let our ego's blind us, if I can help you in any way let me know, Im not the sharpest tack in the shed by far, but I see the end of the road and need your help to get there and it will, has been an awesome journey, studying God's creation.
We will do it
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 29, 2012, 03:33:39 PM

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Utkin.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 29, 2012, 03:57:29 PM

Thanks for that link Dave. Seems like every time I see a link of pdf for Utkin, there is more and more added to each. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on September 29, 2012, 05:35:41 PM

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=4&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940927&CC=US&NR=5350991A&KC=A

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 01, 2012, 07:35:58 AM

Hey guys
Now you must keep in mind Im a newb ;D
I tried to make LaserSaber's circuit asymmetrical, would like your opinion, I havent tried it yet.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 01, 2012, 07:49:22 AM

Here's an asymmetrical design Woopy built a few months back, this thing would weld it put out so much power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBD3_7VbrIQ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 01, 2012, 08:55:47 AM

Woopy is on the ball ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M622BCp3S04

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on October 01, 2012, 12:30:27 PM

Nice post, Dave. I was wondering how long it was going to take for people to make the link between the Sergdo-Woopy toroid and what you and others have been saying as of late on this thread.
Looking forward to seeing more...
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 01, 2012, 12:34:52 PM

I see very much resemblance with this thread http://www.overunity.com/12487/simple-to-build-isolation-transformer-that-consumes-less-power-than-it-gives-out/#.UGnGSZgyLRY (http://www.overunity.com/12487/simple-to-build-isolation-transformer-that-consumes-less-power-than-it-gives-out/#.UGnGSZgyLRY)

and Jack circuit.

http://www.overunity.com/12487/simple-to-build-isolation-transformer-that-consumes-less-power-than-it-gives-out/dlattach/attach/112453/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 01, 2012, 11:48:41 PM

Take a look at this ladies and gentlemen
in spite of all of this experiment they can't see the secret and that's weird. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYDs3zdiNfE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYDs3zdiNfE&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxzSZ78cM-4&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxzSZ78cM-4&feature=relmfu)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1UT4NuygmQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1UT4NuygmQ&feature=related)

This is good take a look
it makes me learn :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAcDM2ypBfE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAcDM2ypBfE&feature=related)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 03, 2012, 07:58:23 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 01, 2012, 11:48:41 PM
Take a look at this ladies and gentlemen
in spite of all of this experiment they can't see the secret and that's weird. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYDs3zdiNfE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYDs3zdiNfE&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxzSZ78cM-4&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxzSZ78cM-4&feature=relmfu)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1UT4NuygmQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1UT4NuygmQ&feature=related)

This is good take a look
it makes me learn :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAcDM2ypBfE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAcDM2ypBfE&feature=related)

oh i'm sorry :(

i believe God is choosing only some person to whom it will be revealed. :(

be patient everyone, don't stop praying.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 04, 2012, 09:57:51 AM

Hey Tito those vids are full of knowledge watched and saved all, it would seem by his reasoning wireless energy would be very hard to implement.

Im still searching for a driver to suite my needs, Iv been playing with the circuit simulator at falstad.

$ 1 5.0E-6 8.281975887399955 50 5.0 50
w 544 256 624 256 0
w 624 256 704 256 0
w 704 256 784 256 0
r 544 256 544 384 0 330.0
r 624 256 624 384 0 1020.0
r 704 256 704 384 0 1020.0
r 784 256 784 384 0 320.0
c 544 384 624 384 0 1.8E-5 1.2699467275349197
c 704 384 784 384 0 1.8E-5 -2.999756136296847
t 704 464 784 464 0 1 -4.5844541338665215 -0.9192042174305967 100.0
w 624 384 704 464 0
w 704 384 624 464 0
t 624 464 544 464 0 1 0.6451493136456392 0.6654918788876554 100.0
R 544 256 496 256 0 0 40.0 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
g 544 480 544 512 0
g 784 480 784 512 0
x 575 420 596 424 0 16 C1
x 733 421 754 425 0 16 C2
x 512 468 533 472 0 16 Q1
x 798 470 819 474 0 16 Q2
w 544 384 496 384 0
w 784 384 832 384 0
w 784 448 800 448 0
w 800 448 800 576 0
l 672 608 800 608 0 1.0 1.0319057502750377E-13
w 544 448 528 448 0
w 528 448 528 576 0
l 656 608 528 608 0 1.0 0.01989180044997849
w 528 576 528 608 0
w 800 576 800 608 0
w 496 544 656 544 0
w 832 544 672 544 0
w 832 384 832 544 0
w 496 384 496 544 0
w 656 544 656 608 0
w 672 544 672 608 0
o 12 64 6 35 640.0 9.765625E-5 0 -1
o 9 64 6 35 640.0 9.765625E-5 1 -1

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 04, 2012, 10:59:58 AM

Iv been looking hard at this sch. I tried it in the simulator but couldnt get it to work.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 04, 2012, 02:16:05 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 03, 2012, 07:58:23 PM

oh i'm sorry :(

i believe God is choosing only some person to whom it will be revealed. :(

be patient everyone, don't stop praying.

How is your tip related to JackNoSkills transformers setup ? . I see it's similiar to cross (one transformer is in normal mode while the second is in perpendicular to the first one)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 05, 2012, 04:00:20 AM

Quote from: forest on October 04, 2012, 02:16:05 PM

How is your tip related to JackNoSkills transformers setup ? . I see it's similiar to cross (one transformer is in normal mode while the second is in perpendicular to the first one)

Well, jack's transformer is not actually bad at all but its not actually the best way, that's bulky.

the second 'X' seems to be a redundancy. that second transformer should be a collector coil already.

wasting of coils :-\ that's not a good design sorry. :'( wow what a face they are not related :D ;)

@dave
buddy, your thinking too much difficult
its just a matter of on and off 555 SARDINES CAN BE USE ;D

CONSIDER THE SMALL ICE BALL THAT BECOMES AN AVALANCHE AND A FIRE STARTED FROM A SMOKE INTO A BIG HUGE FIRE.

WHEN COUNTING TO A MILLION IT ALWAYS STARTED TO 0 THEN WHEN IT IS 1 IT MEANS ON :o

OTITS L. NOICARO ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 05, 2012, 04:22:07 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on October 04, 2012, 09:57:51 AM
Hey Tito those vids are full of knowledge watched and saved all, it would seem by his reasoning wireless energy would be very hard to implement.

Radiant Transmitter of Tesla is really the perfect way solution about energy problem, and it is soooooooooooooooooooooo easy, believe me! and mark my word!.

very controllable in nature, unlimited in its design. 8)

a question maybe, why not use battery? good question. ;D
well, i did not say it is bad to use battery its just that when we use bat then that means were not using signals as source but a straight start from the volts of a bat, in that case yes we need some driver to make a pulse. ;)

therefore we conclude as the fact says, PULSE is really needed in tesla tech.

That's why i develop a technology that doesn't need a pulse which is destructive, i scrutinize straight to the heart of the vacuum to let the energy flow freely. and that's the best. seems like a steady battery hmmmmm. :D
well, there is always heat, but the bigger the design the bigger the watts

BUT NO PULSING!

Otits L. Noicaro ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on October 05, 2012, 08:51:13 AM

Tito:
I am trying to understand just what you are trying to say.
You've mentioned that Tesla's Radiant Transmitter methods, are the way to go. Sooooo easy, etz...
0 to 1, to 1million. From little smoke to big fire. Ok, I get that.
Then you say a pulse is also destructive, but that a kick start from a battery is ok, although not as good as a signal. I get that, also.
Do you have a circuit that you would like to tell us about, or would like to discuss?
What we need are solutions to our dilema, as our patience is about up.

NickZ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 05, 2012, 09:29:56 AM

Quote from: NickZ on October 05, 2012, 08:51:13 AM
What we need are solutions to our dilema, as our patience is about up.

NickZ

Dont give up Nick we're getting there little by little, it'll come.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on October 05, 2012, 12:59:49 PM

I wish that I could just give up, but the electric bill is due, once again.
Good thing that it doesn't get cold here. Have you ever had to sit in a cold house? That's why I left
But, I remember what it's like, and all the people without work, no money to pay anything. Patience???
I hope that you're right...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 06, 2012, 11:53:10 AM

Im gathering parts, this what Im going to do
Biuld a 24 volt dual rail power supply
run to cw on one side ccw on the other
another coil in between, this coil with ac

later
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 06, 2012, 11:56:37 AM

I went to the shack and got the tran
I have a couple of bridges
caps ? maybe
I'll draw it up later

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 06, 2012, 01:49:00 PM

Radio shack doesnt have the caps, I guess I'll have to order some.
So I'll tell you what I really have in mind ;D

I froze a coil in ice, ice is very very interesting it insulates the coil, the electric field got to the coil but only because I had the coil powered up.
I froze a choke in ice not powered, let it freeze solid then powered it up, after about 4 hours you could see where the aether was cutting through the ice trying to reach the magnetic field.
This is what I plan to do, Im going to wind two coils on a plastic toy trumpet and make two coils one cw and one ccw then wind a coil over the trumpet coil, set in water and freeze, after its frozen fire up the primary's on each trumpet coil.
I dont think the electric field will be able to reach the magnetic field anywhere but through the trumpet coils, We should be able to collect the electric field without a pulse.
I know this is way out of the box but I have seen the ice keep out the electric field,I believe it will take the path of least resistance.
Now you know why I want the dual rail dc power supply.

Remove the plastic trumpet after the coils are epoxied

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 06, 2012, 01:57:38 PM

The coils have to be like Iv shown together they will join since the pole polarity's are the same forming one magnetic field, we can split the field.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 06, 2012, 07:12:12 PM

Could you imagine the kind of power that could be drawn from a device like this, you would be stopping the magnetic field from reaching balance, a small voltage to the coils would draw in enormous amounts of power.
Stay tuned ;D

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 07, 2012, 07:01:02 PM

Ok thats a future R&D project, right now Im learning about circuits, you guys are teaching ;)
I have been looking at the induction heater at RMCybernetics its a simple circuit, but Im a simple guy ;D
Here's a good link on conventional flow vs electron flow http://www.rare-earth-magnets.com/t-conventional-vs-electron-flow.aspx , just another ploy to keep the simple man out, but us ole country boys can cipher a little ;D lol

Anyway I tried to understand and modify this circuit to pulse two coils with a dc pulse one way through the coils, any help would be appreciated.
The way I understand the original circuit, the mosfet closes allowing current to flow to the coil and the gate of the other fet, this sets up the oscillation, one fet firing the other and its perspective coil at the same time this causes an oscillation in the coils and sets up the tank circuit to oscillate back and forth through the coils.
I dont want the tank to oscillate current back and forth through my coils but I left the cap in as a kind of springboard which should work with the oscillations.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 08, 2012, 06:21:59 AM

This should give the cap a little more action

edit: now I should see some resonant action between the caps and coils instead of just dumping into the positive

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 08, 2012, 07:01:54 AM

Most researchers are trying to use high voltage to create magnetic fields but I think high current creates bigger magnetic fields this induction heater is a good example, it takes very high alternating magnetic fields to create enough heat to get the object hot. :D We dont want heat we want to split the magnetic field, therefore we dont want alternating magnetic fields.

Tesla was doing something entirely different he was pulsing high currents into the ground, his Tesla coil is a great example, it pumps energy into the atmosphere and ground.
His dream was a centralized power station and free receivers for a free people, his dreams were smashed by the same ententes who control us now. So we have to go a different route, small power stations delivering energy on demand.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 08, 2012, 07:23:46 AM

I need to work up to a circuit that uses the dual rail power supply delivering a positive pulse to one coil and a negative pulse to the other in oscillation with resonance.
Keep studying
little by little
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 08, 2012, 08:36:29 AM

In retrospect could I just use the dual rail without the caps, then I could vary the ac frequency and in turn vary the dc pulses.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 08, 2012, 08:43:50 AM

Maybe the LC circuit will come in handy after all

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 08, 2012, 09:06:42 AM

This should be a self resonating pulsed dc dual rail psu :o
the only limiting factors would be the core material and wire resistance ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 08, 2012, 09:22:05 AM

The only problem would be the resonance would be that of the transformer and not the coils I want to drive.

Back to the other circuit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 08, 2012, 09:39:18 AM

Something Iv come to realize in this thought experiment is its the core material and wire resistance that determines resonance, this is why LS one transistor sys works its the core allowing the magnetic field reach a higher frequency, faster switching.
I wonder build two LS transformers one cw one ccw position them end to end and let them oscillate together from the center out.
Wished I could afford the rods, soon I hope

later
gotta get to work
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 10, 2012, 09:24:40 PM

I JUST TRANSFERRED IT HERE SO EVERYONE WILL KNOW. ;)
Hi good morning to everyone PEACE BE WITH YOU

WE HAVE HURT EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD OR OTHER THREAD SHARING EACH AND EVERY ONES PRINCIPLE WITH ANGRY.

NOW I THINK SINCE WE THROWN A LOT OF DIFFERENT GOOD AND BAD WORDS ALREADY
THEN I THINK ITS TIME TO GIVE A PEACE OFFERING TO EVERYONE.

EVEN LET SAY ATHEIST ARE CORRECT OR WE ARE THE CORRECT ONE,
I THINK IT IS A GENERAL RULE TO HAVE A GOOD HEART TO EVERYONE

NOW THEN: I WILL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY I'M SORRY, REALLY SORRY OR I APOLOGIZE TO ANY WORDS THAT MADE YOU HURT EVEN NOT IN THIS THREAD, SO SORRY.

NOW IN OU TOPIC: THOUGH I'M LOOK LIKE A PREACHER, I CANNOT GIVE THE REAL ONE THAT I HAVE, CAUSE I AM RESERVING THAT FOR MY CHILDREN
AND I HOPE AND BELIEVE THAT THE LORD UNDERSTANDS ME FOR THAT.

I'M NOT PERFECT EVERYONE, PLEASE CONSIDER THAT LITTLE THING FOR ME

THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A BLESSED DAY TO ALL OF YOU

MERRY CHRISTMAS

TITO L. ORACION

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on October 11, 2012, 12:07:52 AM

Aren't we all ONE? What is good for one is good for all. Aren't we all HIS children?

Remember Otto??? He took his secret with him, so did Tesla... Both were from Yugoslavia.
So was my father, and his father.

Anyway, I understand. But, if I have something to share, I will share it freely. Or offer it for sale.
My children don't mind. I love to share what I discover. Money is not all there is.
What goes around comes around. The more you give, the more is given to you.

Happy New Year, It's going to be a special one this time. A time to give, and to share... just because...

Nicola Zec

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 12, 2012, 09:09:17 AM

split the magnetic field

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on October 12, 2012, 10:13:15 AM

Teets

You know its not possible for me to stay angry ...........
God Bless you and yours !

@ Nick
Nice to meet you !

Thx
Chet
Ps
Mags
You out there?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 12, 2012, 10:54:34 AM

Maybe this will help

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 24, 2012, 05:00:13 AM

hi everyone :)

i don't actually understand what he's saying but the schematics looks simple and good. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ignJRwZ90I&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ignJRwZ90I&feature=related)

According to my tacit admission this guy says thank you, your listening wilby. ;D joke
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LExZUBxwSec&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LExZUBxwSec&feature=related)

Hey wilby, do you know why our eggs are inbalance? :o ,
That is because they are always in charge state, they are always seeking for balance like electricity. lol ;D joke

why so serious take a laugh it'll make us fine :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

i actually have a lot lot of questions in this world. sometimes funny but it make sense like
Why there are male and female, why their organs exactly fit in every ones organs. what a co-accidents ;D
why when i exhale carbon, the plants needs it and co-accidentally i need oxygen as his waste products. And lots more ;D
i think a big bang cannot do this accidentally. ;)

another question: how many big bang happen? i think even a billion big bang cannot do those exact incidents. ;) you mean one big bang and then lots of perfect things happen? wow :o

i'd tried to detonate a grenade then everything becomes worst, and there is no incident or accident of good result. ;)
That is why i'm really convinced that there's really a supreme designer ;)

i don't like the probality thread anymore cause they are talking out of this world talk there ;D lol

Tito L. Oracion :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 02, 2012, 10:34:27 PM

Hi everyone good day! ;D

I just want to share something that i discovered accidentally about electronic igniter of a lighter.

I tried to make a spark in a ammonium alum crystal powder and i noticed that the spark is more thicker and strong.

hope it can add up an energy in your device too. ;)

really an energy amplification. ;)

next time i'll try to make a core using this stuff, by putting it inside a magnetic field and putting the spark gap in the middle of the core, hope it won't explode ;D exciting!!! ;D

uppppzzzzz a word of warning: small amount first ok. ;) before exploding others ok ;D

i think we have an alternative instead of radium. ;)

Tito L. Oracion ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 03, 2012, 03:00:54 AM

Tito

Please provide link describing the substance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 03, 2012, 09:33:44 AM

http://ammoniumalum.com/ (http://ammoniumalum.com/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_alum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_alum)
http://suite101.com/article/safety-of-ammonium-alum-deodorants-a257850 (http://suite101.com/article/safety-of-ammonium-alum-deodorants-a257850)

;) ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 05, 2012, 10:35:58 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqS1bmYDak4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqS1bmYDak4)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on November 06, 2012, 12:44:08 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 05, 2012, 10:35:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqS1bmYDak4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqS1bmYDak4)

Hi Sir Teets,
With this circuit 12v to 48vdc, if we use another circuit to pulse the 48v we will get much higher voltage? Cascading? Will the current amplify also? Or we loose amps on higher voltage? Wahtcha think? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 06, 2012, 04:26:37 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on November 06, 2012, 12:44:08 AM

Hi Sir Teets,
With this circuit 12v to 48vdc, if we use another circuit to pulse the 48v we will get much higher voltage? Cascading? Will the current amplify also? Or we loose amps on higher voltage? Wahtcha think? ;D

yes! I think this is it ! with higher voltage you need less amps to get the same power, the only problem for me is how to stop this cascade without burning or exploding or wasting energy in heat
I wonder.... can you test something for me ? if we have a battery 12V with a diode connected to the capacitor, then charge this capacitor with voltage higher then battery and connect to that circuit and what is going on ? diode from plus of battery to plus of capacitor so current can only flow from battery to cap without return
anybody ??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 06, 2012, 04:29:43 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on October 08, 2012, 09:22:05 AM
The only problem would be the resonance would be that of the transformer and not the coils I want to drive.

Back to the other circuit

I like schematic but can you or somebody draw real current flow here ? I feel that this capacitor is not placed good....maybe

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on November 06, 2012, 06:07:48 PM

Quote from: forest on November 06, 2012, 04:26:37 PM

yes! I think this is it ! with higher voltage you need less amps to get the same power, the only problem for me is how to stop this cascade without burning or exploding or wasting energy in heat
I wonder.... can you test something for me ? if we have a battery 12V with a diode connected to the capacitor, then charge this capacitor with voltage higher then battery and connect to that circuit and what is going on ? diode from plus of battery to plus of capacitor so current can only flow from battery to cap without return
anybody ??

That's one problem thats needs to be overcome, coil heats up, but if the coil is in resonance wouldn't that stop the heating issue? I remembered my past experiment where my coils don't heat up much and i get more power out, maybe im hittin the resonance state of the coil i used? Dunno, co'z i don't have a scope ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 07, 2012, 06:16:52 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on November 06, 2012, 06:07:48 PM

That's one problem thats needs to be overcome, coil heats up, but if the coil is in resonance wouldn't that stop the heating issue? I remembered my past experiment where my coils don't heat up much and i get more power out, maybe im hittin the resonance state of the coil i used? Dunno, co'z i don't have a scope ;D

Heat is no a big problem, just make it not too high frequency, maybe add capacitance to coil to lower this. The problem is that recovery is high spike high voltage. Now I know why Tito and Aviso insisted to switch capacitors between series and parallel connections.
In short words : we have to find a very fast way to push energy from high voltage stage into lower voltage in no time, like DC-DC convertion with always the same voltage a the end while the voltage from start is variable. Hard task, hmmm ??? :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 09, 2012, 08:56:16 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on November 06, 2012, 12:44:08 AM

Hi Sir Teets,
With this circuit 12v to 48vdc, if we use another circuit to pulse the 48v we will get much higher voltage? Cascading? Will the current amplify also? Or we loose amps on higher voltage? Wahtcha think? ;D

Pag X'former ang ginamit mo at pataasin ang voltahe syempre liliit ang current dahil mas payat ang gagamitin mong secondaries coil di ba.

Pero pag ang design ay hiwalay ang constant current source sa voltage source at pagsamahin mo sa output then. ;)

Pero hindi ito ang techinique ni tesla, ang kay tesla ay mas simple at konti lang gagamitin mong electronic components. tatlo lang yon. ;)

Pero ang advantage nung sa video ay maganda rin dahil pwedi mong gawing maliitan yung design. enough for single appliances. so ang labas ay Pweding magkaroon ng sarisariling power source ang bawat appliances. :)

Note! umiinit lang ang device pag dimo control at mataas ang labas ng current, in short overload. ;)

Hanggang sa muli kaibigan ;)

Tito L. Oracion ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 09, 2012, 11:34:51 PM

Tito's comments thru google translate:

X'former're used to and of course voltahe smaller increase for the current thinner coil secondaries used to know.

But when the design is separate constant current source with voltage source and then combine the output.

But this is not the techinique of Tesla, Tesla's comments are simpler and little used only to electronic components.tatlo just that.

But the advantage Nung video is beautiful as well as those pwedi to make maliitan design. enough for single appliances. so the outside is Pweding have sarisariling each power source appliances.

Note! Just warms the device Dimo control and high out of current, in short overload.

Up to re-friend
Undo edits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 10, 2012, 06:05:20 AM

Do you know why BEMF is high voltage spike ? How we can reuse it ? Yes, reuse ! I only need to find solution to pump that energy back to lower voltage stage. Period. Think about it, it's what Tito wanted us to know about efficient usage of power source...no more heat :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on November 10, 2012, 08:31:02 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 09, 2012, 08:56:16 PM

Pag X'former ang ginamit mo at pataasin ang voltahe syempre liliit ang current dahil mas payat ang gagamitin mong secondaries coil di ba.

Pero pag ang design ay hiwalay ang constant current source sa voltage source at pagsamahin mo sa output then. ;)

Pero hindi ito ang techinique ni tesla, ang kay tesla ay mas simple at konti lang gagamitin mong electronic components. tatlo lang yon. ;)

Pero ang advantage nung sa video ay maganda rin dahil pwedi mong gawing maliitan yung design. enough for single appliances. so ang labas ay Pweding magkaroon ng sarisariling power source ang bawat appliances. :)

Note! umiinit lang ang device pag dimo control at mataas ang labas ng current, in short overload. ;)

Hanggang sa muli kaibigan ;)

Tito L. Oracion ;D

Whatttt!!? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on November 10, 2012, 08:49:35 AM

Quote from: forest on November 10, 2012, 06:05:20 AM
Do you know why BEMF is high voltage spike ? How we can reuse it ? Yes, reuse ! I only need to find solution to pump that energy back to lower voltage stage. Period. Think about it, it's what Tito wanted us to know about efficient usage of power source...no more heat :P

Ok reuse BEMF, is stepdown trafo not a solution, how about microwave oven trafo? Inefficient?
Or thanes bi-toroid trafo? ::) Like what mr.clean did..... :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 10, 2012, 11:05:34 PM

ok! ok! ok!

The secret in the Video is figure 7 and 8 with agent double x. ;D

it is different when it is in pushing state so we can charge. off course energy should be greater than the load so we can make separation of charges. ;D

who says transistors are not good! >:( hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

did you try dismantling a regulated power supply? ::) hmmmmmmmmm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 11, 2012, 04:32:56 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 10, 2012, 11:05:34 PM
ok! ok! ok!

The secret in the Video is figure 7 and 8 with agent double x. ;D

it is different when it is in pushing state so we can charge. off course energy should be greater than the load so we can make separation of charges. ;D

who says transistors are not good! >:( hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

did you try dismantling a regulated power supply? ::) hmmmmmmmmm

But what video ? :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 12, 2012, 07:02:58 PM

Quote from: forest on November 11, 2012, 04:32:56 AM

But what video ? :-\

The video that i showed in the previous page. :o

ok!ok!ok!ok!ok!ok!ok! >:( ;D

According to SM shoemart, the secret is the spike. :o

Now!, in the first place, how these spikes generated?. ::)
how tesla made his spikes? ::)

Note: in RLC. R is not a good idea. cause it doesn't give the full energy of the reaction. ;)

And the moment particle is not in full blown. therefore i conclude that we need the full power of the module to achieve overunity ok. ;)

got that everyone? That's truth and Gold. :D

just realize it. ;)

Tito L. ORacion ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on November 13, 2012, 08:17:42 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on November 09, 2012, 11:34:51 PM
Tito's comments thru google translate:

But when the design is separate constant current source with voltage source and then combine the output.

Hi sir Teets,

Remember what i had PM you before? About getti'n high voltage on my setup that whacked my multimiter! ;D On the primary coil i put 2 diodes then from the secondary another 2 diodes then combine them thats why i got more power out :o Am i diong it right ? What should be the next step? ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 09:29:27 AM

@ Tito

Hi.. How old are you? Matagal kana ba d2 sa overunity forum?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 13, 2012, 02:03:38 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on November 13, 2012, 08:17:42 AM

Hi sir Teets,

Remember what i had PM you before? About getti'n high voltage on my setup that whacked my multimiter! ;D On the primary coil i put 2 diodes then from the secondary another 2 diodes then combine them thats why i got more power out :o Am i diong it right ? What should be the next step? ::)

Seems like a good step ;) . I'm not trying to mix them however, I plan to recover initial kick and separate store ambient response. Damn circuit was damaged by kick... :( That's how difficult is to mess with car ignition coil

Listen : heat is energy trying to escape, I believe we can recover almost all we put in :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 13, 2012, 06:32:14 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 09:29:27 AM
@ Tito

Hi.. How old are you? Matagal kana ba d2 sa overunity forum?

i'm sweet 19 and always sweet 19 that's why i have already my diabetis :D ;D

never been kiss, never been touch but totally wreck. ;D :( :o lol hahhahahhahhhahahhaha
[size=78%]
[/size]
2008 pa ako d2 nakikipag bolahan sa mga katoto natin dito. malay mo binobola din kita. lol hahahhahhahahahha

di nila makuha sikreto ni tesla na ka dali dali. ;D

pinagbibili ko nang three million dolar ayaw pa nila, ang muramura na nga e, buong mundo naman makikinabang ayaw pa nila
mga wala silang puso apdo atay at balumbalunan! ;D lol[size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 13, 2012, 06:43:40 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on November 13, 2012, 08:17:42 AM

Hi sir Teets,

Remember what i had PM you before? About getti'n high voltage on my setup that whacked my multimiter! ;D On the primary coil i put 2 diodes then from the secondary another 2 diodes then combine them thats why i got more power out :o Am i diong it right ? What should be the next step? ::)

Sa high votage kc dapat maliit lang na capacitor kailangan at maraming coil ang dapat.

Ngayon ang next siguro magbungcal pa tayo. dahil yun na yon, di mo lang masyadong matumbok e pero yun na yon ;D he!he!he![size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 06:47:45 PM

@tito

Natawa ako ng todo dun ah.. Langya akala ko napaka galang mo ung pala binubulagas mo lang ang mga tao d2 lol.. Ako medyo matagal na din kaso nahi2rapan ako makipag englisan kaya d ako gaanong naging active. May asawa kana pala ha, ako wala pa eh hehe.. Tungkol kay tesla alam ko rin ang sikreto nya actually d na un sikreto kc matagal na nya un sinabi sa publiko.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 13, 2012, 06:56:24 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 06:47:45 PM
@tito

Natawa ako ng todo dun ah.. Langya akala ko napaka galang mo ung pala binubulagas mo lang ang mga tao d2 lol.. Ako medyo matagal na din kaso nahi2rapan ako makipag englisan kaya d ako gaanong naging active. May asawa kana pala ha, ako wala pa eh hehe.. Tungkol kay tesla alam ko rin ang sikreto nya actually d na un sikreto kc matagal na nya un sinabi sa publiko.

OH! ano pala ang sikreto nya? :o total sinabi na sa publiko, paki ulit naman saken. hehehhehe ;D [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 07:05:03 PM

OH! ano pala ang sikreto
nya? :o total sinabi na sa
publiko, paki ulit naman
saken. hehehhehe ;D

--- End quote ---

Hehe kailangan ko muna iconfirm kung 22o nga ung sinabi ni tesla kaso takot ako gumawa ng experiment involving high voltage kaya d ko masimulan. Paano ka nga pala nkagawa ng high voltage?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 13, 2012, 07:08:31 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 07:05:03 PM
OH! ano pala ang sikreto
nya? :o total sinabi na sa
publiko, paki ulit naman
saken. hehehhehe ;D

--- End quote ---

Hehe kailangan ko muna iconfirm kung 22o nga ung sinabi ni tesla kaso takot ako gumawa ng experiment involving high voltage kaya d ko masimulan. Paano ka nga pala nkagawa ng high voltage?

sabihin mona kace bro yung sikreto. ;D

wag mo na i confirm. ;D

threat nalang kita ng fishbol ;D hehehe

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 07:09:45 PM

Pero d na ako gaanong interesado sa invention ni tesla kc mas pinag 22utan ko ng pansin ang makadiscover ng negative inductor. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 07:13:31 PM

sige e2 na sikreto .. High Voltage , High Frequency at Resonance un lang lol Hehehehe ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 13, 2012, 07:16:16 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 07:09:45 PM
Pero d na ako gaanong interesado sa invention ni tesla kc mas pinag 22utan ko ng pansin ang makadiscover ng negative inductor. ;)

Alam mo bang yung kay tesla ang pinaka maganda, tinago lang talaga nila yung sikreto tungkol sa magnifying transmitter. ito ang perfection na nagawa ni tesla tungkol sa alternating current free energy source. :)

palagay mo magpapaka pagod siya sa paggawa non ng wala lang? think bro.? there is something in it. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 13, 2012, 07:19:01 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 07:13:31 PM
sige e2 na sikreto .. High Voltage , High Frequency at Resonance un lang lol Hehehehe ;)

ah oh :D hindi lang yon, there is something behind that. at yon ang pinagbibili ko ng $3M dollar. hehehe ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 07:19:59 PM

Alam mo bang yung kay
tesla ang pinaka maganda,
tinago lang talaga nila yung
sikreto tungkol sa
magnifying transmitter. ito
ang perfection na nagawa ni tesla tungkol sa alternating
current free energy
source. :) palagay mo magpapaka
pagod siya sa paggawa non
ng wala lang? think bro.?
there is something in it. ;)

--- End quote ---
Ung magnifying transmiter d ko alam kung panu un gumagana masyado kc komplikado ung sirketo. Anu sa tingin mo un?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 13, 2012, 07:25:43 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 07:19:59 PM
Alam mo bang yung kay
tesla ang pinaka maganda,
tinago lang talaga nila yung
sikreto tungkol sa
magnifying transmitter. ito
ang perfection na nagawa ni tesla tungkol sa alternating
current free energy
source. :) palagay mo magpapaka
pagod siya sa paggawa non
ng wala lang? think bro.?
there is something in it. ;)

Ung magnifying transmiter d ko alam kung panu un gumagana masyado kc komplikado ung sirketo. Anu sa tingin mo un?

Well. simpleng transmitter lang yon para makagawa lang ng wave, at ang kailangan na lang nating gawin ay antena receiver. at ang sikreto ay nasa receiver.

hanggang sa muli kaibigan. ;D [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 07:26:17 PM

ah oh :D hindi lang yon,
there is something behind
that. at yon ang pinagbibili
ko ng $3M dollar. hehehe ;D

--- End quote ---

Hahahahaha! Aatakihin ako sa puso ng dahil sau. Sinu nman ang bibili sau nun haha.. E libre mona nga lang mababasa un sa internet..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 13, 2012, 07:30:41 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 07:26:17 PM
ah oh :D hindi lang yon,
there is something behind
that. at yon ang pinagbibili
ko ng $3M dollar. hehehe ;D

--- End quote ---

Hahahahaha! Aatakihin ako sa puso ng dahil sau. Sinu nman ang bibili sau nun haha.. E libre mona nga lang mababasa un sa internet..

pag mag reply ka pindutan mo lang yung "QUOTE" sa ganang kanan mo para di ka mahirapan ok? ;)

at yung "modify" kung gusto mong i edit. ok bro.? ;)

sige bye ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 07:31:41 PM

Well. simpleng transmitter
lang yon para makagawa
lang ng wave, at ang
kailangan na lang nating
gawin ay antena receiver. at
ang sikreto ay nasa receiver.

--- End quote ---

wahahaha... Akala ko alam na alam mona ung pala simpleng transmiter lang pala sasabihin mo. Hehe incase of efficient reciever may naisip na ako jan actually gus2 ko nga subukan eh. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 13, 2012, 07:34:11 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 07:31:41 PM
Well. simpleng transmitter
lang yon para makagawa
lang ng wave, at ang
kailangan na lang nating
gawin ay antena receiver. at
ang sikreto ay nasa receiver.

--- End quote ---

wahahaha... Akala ko alam na alam mona ung pala simpleng transmiter lang pala sasabihin mo. Hehe incase of efficient reciever may naisip na ako jan actually gus2 ko nga subukan eh. ;)

baket? anu pa ba meron dun? :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 07:39:42 PM

pag mag reply ka pindutan
mo lang yung "QUOTE" sa
ganang kanan mo para di ka
mahirapan ok? ;) at yung "modify" kung
gusto mong i edit. ok
bro.? ;) sige bye ;)

--- End quote ---

Celfon lang kc gamit ko at naka wap d kc gumagana ung posting sa web version. Cge bye usap nalang uli tau mamaya. Meron nga pala ako topic jan ung iniimbento ko ngaun na low frequency ou transformer baka interesado ka malaman.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 08:13:17 PM

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E2 ung efficient reciever na iniisip ko. Kapag ni tune mo ung capacitor sa primary coil ng aircore transformer, malakas na power output ang lalabas sa secondary tulad ng tesla coil. Pero ang frequency na dapat nya sagapin ay mataas mga 1giga hertz pataas para malakas din ang power output..

Palagay ko din ung magnifying transmiter ni tesla ay simpleng transmiter lang ang kaibahan lang ay mas efficient at mas malakas ung power output na pinu produce nya.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 14, 2012, 03:19:08 AM

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on November 14, 2012, 12:20:45 PM

Quote from: forest on November 14, 2012, 03:19:08 AM
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Time to speak in our native languages.
My daughter has some Philippine friends here in Chicago. I don't promise anything, but it's always a chance to translate. In case if these guys continue being so unfriendly. W przypadku gdyby ci dwaj kumple kontynuowali "olewanie" reszty.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 14, 2012, 10:06:53 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 08:13:17 PM
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E2 ung efficient reciever na iniisip ko. Kapag ni tune mo ung capacitor sa primary coil ng aircore transformer, malakas na power output ang lalabas sa secondary tulad ng tesla coil. Pero ang frequency na dapat nya sagapin ay mataas mga 1giga hertz pataas para malakas din ang power output..

Palagay ko din ung magnifying transmiter ni tesla ay simpleng transmiter lang ang kaibahan lang ay mas efficient at mas malakas ung power output na pinu produce nya.

Wow! :o
Actually muntik munang tinamaan yung talagang sikreto buti naka ilag ako, pero alam mo bang may ilalakas pa yan. ::)
AT HINDI LANG MALAKAS AS IN SUPER DUPER TALAGA. ;D

AT YON ANG BINEBENTA KO NGAYON. ;D

Ang plano talaga ni tesla sa magnifying transmitter ay gumawa talaga nang wave sa himpapawid para ang lahat ng tao ay maka sagap ng signal.
at yung signal na yon ang magsisilbing starter sa unlimitted power source and unlimitted watts of energy. ;)

Yan actually ang sa llikod ng utak ni tesla para makagawa ng free energy sa lahat ng tao sa buong mundo. ;)
kaya pinutol ni morgan ang financial support ni tesla dahil nakaamoy siya ng balak ni tesla. at naamoy ko rin yon. hahahahahah lol ;D

medyo mabaho di ba? ;D

kaya ikaw maghugas kang mabuti pag galing ka ng CR, baka maamoy ka ni tesla ;D hahahahahhahah lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 14, 2012, 10:13:43 PM

Quote from: forest on November 14, 2012, 03:19:08 AM
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 14, 2012, 10:15:28 PM

Quote from: Qwert on November 14, 2012, 12:20:45 PM
Time to speak in our native languages.
My daughter has some Philippine friends here in Chicago. I don't promise anything, but it's always a chance to translate. In case if these guys continue being so unfriendly. W przypadku gdyby ci dwaj kumple kontynuowali "olewanie" reszty.

no! you have to study me so that you can dance bro. ;D joke

its just a matter of declamation ;D hahahahaha lol joke

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 15, 2012, 02:34:54 AM

Wow! :o
Actually muntik munang
tinamaan yung talagang
sikreto buti naka ilag ako,
pero alam mo bang may
ilalakas pa yan. ::) AT HINDI LANG MALAKAS
AS IN SUPER DUPER
TALAGA. ;D AT YON ANG BINEBENTA KO
NGAYON. ;D

--End of Quote--

Gaano kalakas? Singlakas ba ng UTOT baka mangamoy yan sa bahay nyo hahaha! lol joke.. :D

Cge nga anu yang sikreto na malakas na sinasabi mu baka kc pag sumabog yan bumaho ang buong mundo. Lol hahaha!

Kung iisipin mu d na kailangan natin ng magnifying transmiter dahil npakaraming ng radio transmiter d2 sa pilipinas. Ang kailangan nlang natin ay efficient radio reciever 2lad ng ni-post ko para magkaroon tau ng libreng kuryente. Kaya lang wag masyado aamuyin mabaho yan baka malasing ka lol wahahaha! :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pix on November 15, 2012, 08:06:43 AM

Hi,
It is very rude to blabla in native language on the international forum.
If you have something to say, please stop using philliphines language and go english.

Regards,
pix

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 15, 2012, 08:14:18 AM

@ pix

Okey.. We are just joking around and most of it is nonsense so dont bother to know what we are saying. Peace ;)

Incase you are really curious here is the important part of what we are saying. He said he knows the ultimate secret of the tesla coil and he was selling it for 3million dollar but i dont believe because i know the real secret of nicola's tesla coil. Its just three important things - High Voltage, High Frequency and Resonance. He also mention that the magnifying transmiter is just a regular transmiter. So then i say theres no need to build a magnifying transmiter because theres a lot of radio transmiter in the Philipines and we can tap energy in there by using a very simple circuit that i posted above.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pix on November 15, 2012, 10:22:14 AM

Hi,
No probem.
I was thinking about the same circuit with antenna and properly chosen LC value and a spark gap just like in Tesla setup.
Then as follows:
1.Small condenser charges up to high voltage from signal received in antenna.
2.Then condenser "fires" across a spark gap to the primary of transformer. Current amplification takes place across spark gap ( electron avalanche).
Wht do you think?
Condenser needs to be really small,but high voltage- then rate at which it "fires" depends from LC values and can be adjusted for frequency needed.
I see a resonant LC circuir with antena as ambiient "energy sink".
Peace.
pix

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 16, 2012, 05:48:05 PM

:o
High Voltage, high frequency, resonance?, in my first quest about searching free energy, i thought they are, but absolutely NOT!

It is actually the momentum, moment particle and the method of accumulation of energy in a lot of coil is the secret, and tesla say it by means of an iceball.

if HV,Hf, and R is the secret, then i think we are not paying electricity a long time ago.

its like a worm gaining a little distance and after a while it gains a lot of distance, and the difference is TIME. ;)

HOPE YOU GET IT

YUNG BANG PARANG UTOT NA MABILIS KUMALAT ;D LOL HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on November 16, 2012, 07:50:14 PM

ang iyong puso ay isang iceball :P

marahil ama ay matunaw iyong nagyeyelo puso bukas-makalaw

Pagpalain kayo ng Diyos aking kapatid na lalaki, ako ang sa aking panalangin

HHMMmmmmmmm
I think I like this Bilingual stuff.......

Thx
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 16, 2012, 09:18:19 PM

pix : Hi,
No probem.
I was thinking about the
same circuit with antenna
and properly chosen LC value
and a spark gap just like in Tesla setup.
Then as follows:
1.Small condenser charges up
to high voltage from signal
received in antenna.
2.Then condenser "fires" across a spark gap to the
primary of transformer.
Current amplification takes
place across spark gap
( electron avalanche).
Wht do you think? Condenser needs to be really
small,but high voltage- then
rate at which it "fires"
depends from LC values and
can be adjusted for
frequency needed. I see a resonant LC circuir
with antena as ambiient
"energy sink".
Peace.
pix

--End of Quote--

Yeah that was the original tesla's design and if im not mistaken that was the circuit he used on his pierce arrow electric car. Mine is much simpler than that no need for diode and spark gap. All you need is tune up the primary coil and capacitor to the strongest frequency available in your area to get the largest output in the secondary. The one end of the primary coil must connected to a long copper rod buried on the ground and the other end connected to a very long vertical antenna. But i dont know which on two circuit are much better.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 16, 2012, 09:47:27 PM

@tito

I dont understand this part:

It is actually the momentum,
moment particle and the
method of accumulation of
energy in a lot of coil is the
secret, and tesla say it by
means of an iceball.

How can tesla say it by means of iceball .. Lol :D

@ramset

ang iyong puso ay isang
iceball :P

Lol.. Hahahahaha! You can speak tagalog?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 16, 2012, 11:55:40 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on November 16, 2012, 09:47:27 PM
@tito

I dont understand this part:

It is actually the momentum,
moment particle and the
method of accumulation of
energy in a lot of coil is the
secret, and tesla say it by
means of an iceball.

How can tesla say it by means of iceball .. Lol :D

@ramset

ang iyong puso ay isang
iceball :P

Lol.. Hahahahaha! You can speak tagalog?

di mo pa ba nabasa yung sinabi ni tesla na kung mag hulug ka ng maliit na ice ball sa mataas na lugar, habang gumugulong ay lumalaki yon hanggang maging avalantz. yun ang sabi niya kung magawa mo yon sa kuryente ay tagumpay ka sa free energy. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 16, 2012, 11:58:52 PM

Quote from: ramset on November 16, 2012, 07:50:14 PM
ang iyong puso ay isang iceball :P

marahil ama ay matunaw iyong nagyeyelo puso bukas-makalaw

Pagpalain kayo ng Diyos aking kapatid na lalaki, ako ang sa aking panalangin

HHMMmmmmmmm
I think I like this Bilingual stuff.......

Thx
Chet

obviously translated ;D hahahahahhaahhahahhaahhahahha lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 17, 2012, 12:26:24 AM

@tito

Ah un pala un.. Pero palagay ko ang tunay na sikreto kung bakit sya naging magaling na imbentor ay dahil sa masipag sya maggawa ng experiment at un ang wala sa atin. Marami sa atin ay puro dada pero wala namang ginagawa panu nga ba sila makakagawa ng overunity. Sa una mataas talaga ang porsyento na pumalpak ka pero sa bawat pagkakamali ay nalalaman mo ang dapat ituwid hanggang sa magtagumpay sa iyong ginawa at sa bawat eksperimento ay pwede kang makatuklas ng isang bagay na d mo inaasahan. Tulad ni tesla natuklasan nya ang free energy by experimenting on very high frequency resonance. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 17, 2012, 12:33:32 AM

this is what i look forward too. tk ripping your fucking guts out. fruking freaks.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 17, 2012, 12:36:34 AM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 17, 2012, 12:33:32 AM
this is what i look forward too. tk ripping your fucking guts out. fruking freaks.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 17, 2012, 12:52:26 AM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 17, 2012, 12:33:32 AM
this is what i look forward too. tk ripping your fucking guts out. fruking freaks.

Yeah you fruity frisbees. You frounding frathers. You frrrr frrrrs. You frank frutters. Ohh, I just cant get it right. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 17, 2012, 01:42:42 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on November 17, 2012, 12:26:24 AM
@tito

Ah un pala un.. Pero palagay ko ang tunay na sikreto kung bakit sya naging magaling na imbentor ay dahil sa masipag sya maggawa ng experiment at un ang wala sa atin. Marami sa atin ay puro dada pero wala namang ginagawa panu nga ba sila makakagawa ng overunity. Sa una mataas talaga ang porsyento na pumalpak ka pero sa bawat pagkakamali ay nalalaman mo ang dapat ituwid hanggang sa magtagumpay sa iyong ginawa at sa bawat eksperimento ay pwede kang makatuklas ng isang bagay na d mo inaasahan. Tulad ni tesla natuklasan nya ang free energy by experimenting on very high frequency resonance. :D

Actually hindi lang sya masipag talagang magaling sya as in super eccentric, a one of a kind talented person. ;)

Natuklasan ni Tesla ang free energy nung makita niya ang reaction ng capacitor. 8)
Actually, hindi lang puro experiment ang kailangan kundi matinding pag aanalisa at common sense ang kailangan. :)
At paminsan minsan kailangan mo ring nakukuryente. ;D

ngayon kung puro ka nga talaga dada e wala ka ngang magagawa. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 17, 2012, 01:45:54 AM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 17, 2012, 12:33:32 AM
this is what i look forward too. tk ripping your fucking guts out. fruking freaks.

hey! >:( what happen to you! >:( are you on drugs? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pix on November 17, 2012, 07:24:11 AM

Guys, please:
Use english.This is not private forum, it is open for everybody.

Regards,
pix

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on November 17, 2012, 07:50:05 AM

Some have free energy already but for sale at 3m$ Booom!!! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 17, 2012, 08:12:09 AM

@crazycut06

He was only joking that was not true.. Lol :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 17, 2012, 10:18:10 AM

tito

if you could answer me one question please ? do you remember double ram picture you posted ? ::) how did you solved the problem of converting spikes of HV high frequency into usable current able to charge initial capacitor ?

I have a big electrolytic capacitors but they are rated max to 400V and I would like not to blow them (they are expensive and dangerous). in other words I'm asking how to stop avalanche ice ball effect ? ???

Gyus, the first secret is this : law of conservation of energy tell us that : energy is never destroyed. So when you push it , it tries to escape.Nature is creating the opposite forces (because we are not living in empty space remember ) but never takes your energy, it is radiated as heat and other waves....
That is the first requirement of free energy device : resonance with recovery or initial energy (or most of it).

Now you know why every inverter need a proper heatsink...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 18, 2012, 12:20:55 AM

Quote from: forest on November 17, 2012, 10:18:10 AM
tito

if you could answer me one question please ? do you remember double ram picture you posted ? ::) how did you solved the problem of converting spikes of HV high frequency into usable current able to charge initial capacitor ?

I have a big electrolytic capacitors but they are rated max to 400V and I would like not to blow them (they are expensive and dangerous). in other words I'm asking how to stop avalanche ice ball effect ? ???

Gyus, the first secret is this : law of conservation of energy tell us that : energy is never destroyed. So when you push it , it tries to escape.Nature is creating the opposite forces (because we are not living in empty space remember ) but never takes your energy, it is radiated as heat and other waves....
That is the first requirement of free energy device : resonance with recovery or initial energy (or most of it).

Now you know why every inverter need a proper heatsink...

Actually i do not remember what double ram i posted. ??? please if you can, show it again here and i will answer you to the extent of my knowledge that was given to me. ;D [size=78%] [/size]

Ya, energy never destroyed. it only seeks for balance like an inflated ballon or wheel when air is compressed energy is in action but when release then it is balance and no more energy. ;)

Actually there are kinds of energy to be classify if it is heat then short it but if magnetic field energy then we have another energy effect and absolutely not heat. etc. ;)

in avalantz. you acan actually make rules in your device and those rules are controllers and spark gap is one of them, etc. 8)

i have a lot of things to explain but i really can't express them in detail my nose is bleeding. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 18, 2012, 12:24:37 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on November 17, 2012, 08:12:09 AM
@crazycut06

He was only joking that was not true.. Lol :D

Sorry but i'm not joking and i'm telling the truth. >:(

i'm actually made a bargain to this for $1M giving the whole Earth a chance for the very simple technology, but they did not grab it. so be it. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 18, 2012, 12:32:33 AM

OK! OK! OK! >:(

I THINK IT IS NOW TIME TO GIVE SOME OPEN HIDDEN SECRET OF TESLA. :)

I WANT EVERYBODY TO ANSWER AND THE SIMPLE IDEA BEHIND THE SECRET:

HERE IS THE QUESTION: "WHY THERE IS A BATTERY IN TESLA CAR"? ::) :o SEEMS SO SIMPLE BUT WHY?

I WILL ANSWER THIS AFTER AT LEAST MANY HAVE MADE THEIR POST ABOUT IT. ;) OK?

THAT'S A PROMISE, I WILL GIVE IT. :)

GOD BLESS AND MERRY CHRISTMASS. ;)
TITO L. ORACION ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on November 18, 2012, 04:11:31 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 18, 2012, 12:32:33 AM
I THINK IT IS NOW TIME TO GIVE SOME OPEN HIDDEN SECRET OF TESLA. :)
HERE IS THE QUESTION: "WHY THERE IS A BATTERY IN TESLA CAR"? ::) :o SEEMS SO SIMPLE BUT WHY?

To my knowledge, Tesla never mentioned the car; we know about its existence from another guy.
It is possible, Tesla got there a circuit similar to so-called "Tesla switch", which probably is not Tesla's circuit at all, but known to him. This circuit really works, only there is one problem: this circuit makes battery life dramatically short (to several months - according to Peswiki). And according to the known story, the Tesla car was used at only one relatively short trip.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 18, 2012, 07:28:38 AM

Quote from: Qwert on November 18, 2012, 04:11:31 AM
To my knowledge, Tesla never mentioned the car; we know about its existence from another guy.
It is possible, Tesla got there a circuit similar to so-called "Tesla switch", which probably is not Tesla's circuit at all, but known to him. This circuit really works, only there is one problem: this circuit makes battery life dramatically short (to several months - according to Peswiki). And according to the known story, the Tesla car was used at only one relatively short trip.

if it is a tesla switch why there is an antenna?

whatever it is at least the other guy mentioned it that it is a car.

sorry i don't agree with your info about the battery, it always it depends ok. ;D

i think tesla got bad trip when he heard some comments from skeptics ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 18, 2012, 09:03:53 AM

@ tito & Qwert

I agree with tito. Imho tesla did not use the battery as part of a "tesla switch". Instead he use it as a storage of electricity collected from his teslacoil powered by radio wave thats why he use antenna. When the car was not moving, the teslacoil charges the battery. But when the car was moving, both teslacoil and battery gives electricity to the dc motor of his electric car.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on November 18, 2012, 11:12:48 AM

@Neo X

In contrast to what we believed, Jason Torchinsky has a different idea about Tesla Car story. Check out this site. jalopnik.com/5926247/did-nikola-tesla-secretly-build-a-wireless-electric-car

When Tesla was asked,

Question: Will not automobiles, for instance, be operated merely by the operative "cutting in" on electrical energy supplied by wireless from power stations?
MR. TESLA : I fear we shall not live to see the wireless system in general use for this purpose. It is difficult to propel an automobile by the new method for reasons with which experts are familiar. Success can be much more easily achieved in the case of airships.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on November 18, 2012, 11:44:13 AM

HEy Sir teets! can I ask about TK transformer in 2004 video? I'm sorry, I know this is irrelevant.. Could this be a ferro-resonant transformer? or a constant current transformer? My reference was Practical Transformer Handbook by Irving Gottlieb, page 38-39.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 18, 2012, 02:12:29 PM

Quote from: DimaWari on November 18, 2012, 11:44:13 AM
HEy Sir teets! can I ask about TK transformer in 2004 video? I'm sorry, I know this is irrelevant.. Could this be a ferro-resonant transformer? or a constant current transformer? My reference was Practical Transformer Handbook by Irving Gottlieb, page 38-39.

:o :o :o :o don't bother yourself with transformer it cannot make 5kW output that's sure

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 18, 2012, 10:39:18 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 18, 2012, 12:32:33 AM
HERE IS THE QUESTION: "WHY THERE IS A BATTERY IN TESLA CAR"? ::) :o SEEMS SO SIMPLE BUT WHY?

I WILL ANSWER THIS AFTER AT LEAST MANY HAVE MADE THEIR POST ABOUT IT. ;) OK?

Is it possible, that the battery is just for starting the process? The antenna is just part of a resonant circuit and doesnt really receive signals for energy input?

Someone said here the other day that it was a DC motor. All the variations of the story that I read say it was an AC induction motor, 80hp.

Being it was an AC motor, it can be part of the LC. Its possible that the motor didnt have standard windings. Maybe bifi. And maybe shorting with the tubes?

Or maybe the battery is just to fire up the heaters in the vacuum tubes to get things started.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 19, 2012, 02:00:22 AM

I dont know if many are going to answer. Maybe many are loosing hope. :-\

Magzimus Leviticus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 19, 2012, 03:09:09 AM

Silly boys. Surely you have noticed by now that all electrical free energy devices have batteries.

Besides, even my car has a battery, and it winds up fully charged after I drive around awhile.

Just like that old Pierce Arrow over there in the barn. I don't know how people got the idea it was running on the wheelworks of nature....probably he was just trying to tune in the baseball game for listening pleasure while automotivating down the byways of New York.

And New Jersey, of course.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on November 19, 2012, 03:38:01 AM

The battery was 6 volts. Perfect for running the tubes. The antenna is for a virtual ground. IMHO

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 19, 2012, 04:47:27 AM

Hi everyone, so excited ;D

i want you to study this one: specially start to "Colorado Springs Experimental Stations" deeply analyze it ;)
http://www.frankgermano.net/nikolatesla2.htm

closely look at those sketch. Cause the real secret is in there. promise! :)

@dimawari

sorry i don't have any sure info about your question :(

but its on how you use the transformers primary and secondary. ;) logically means do not use them as how we usually use them ok ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on November 19, 2012, 10:06:47 AM

No it cant be that easy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 19, 2012, 10:56:18 AM

Size matters.

Tesla knew that much for sure.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on November 19, 2012, 12:11:26 PM

Tesla's Pierce Arrow had an A.C. motor that recovered regenerative brake power. The "Cosmic Ray Charge" was generated merely by a ground and radient recieving antenna installed in the parking garage, to replenish the drive battery.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 19, 2012, 07:44:49 PM

Quote from: bboj on November 19, 2012, 10:06:47 AM
No it cant be that easy.

;D of course, what i showed you is just the starting point.

imagine an ice ball from the start.

now, if still you didn't grasp what i want you to know then that's all there is to it.

i can't do anything about it. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 19, 2012, 07:55:48 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 19, 2012, 10:56:18 AM
Size matters.

Tesla knew that much for sure.

Ya, i agree, that is also one thing that says truth that if you want big watts then its should be proportional to the device you made so heat can be under control. ;)

Therefore: if the free energy they are showing is not in proportion then you think twice go back to tesla ok. ;)

probably its a fake. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 20, 2012, 01:27:39 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 19, 2012, 07:55:48 PM

Ya, i agree, that is also one thing that says truth that if you want big watts then its should be proportional to the device you made so heat can be under control. ;)

Therefore: if the free energy they are showing is not in proportion then you think twice go back to tesla ok. ;)

probably its a fake. :)

however switchmode inverter using high frequency can be small except capacitors and maybe mosfets with heatsink

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on November 21, 2012, 05:54:17 AM

We can add multiple transmitters at the maxumum values of the wave. And can we combine a load or generator to oscilate at the same f? Hmmm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on November 21, 2012, 11:23:46 AM

Get a quad of L-C tanks, and... just make an arragement to feedback them together.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 21, 2012, 09:25:20 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 19, 2012, 07:55:48 PM

Ya, i agree, that is also one thing that says truth that if you want big watts then its should be proportional to the device you made so heat can be under control. ;)

Therefore: if the free energy they are showing is not in proportion then you think twice go back to tesla ok. ;)

probably its a fake. :)

What you say about the heat, Tesla talked about using instead of round wire, using ribbon or strips. I have to read it again, I think he didnt know if it was the larger surface area of the ribbon or another reason heat was less of a factor. Tesla. Would loved to have known him. ;) Some laptop supplies, some of the transformers have at least 1 flat ribbon winding. Ive had one that had 2. Also, an arc welder I was checking out, large, 10 in. by 10 in. laminated core, 3 in thick. The primary was like 1/4 in. round copper and the sec was 2 different windings of flat windings, one was for high power and the other for low. Picture a square core wound like we see a toroid in a diagram, primary on one side and sec on the other. but this being square, there is one more ingredient to the welder....
A large knob on the front casing was connected to a shaft, with a rectangular laminated block, suspended on the core between the windings. When you turn the big knob, the rectangular core can be turned to where the rectangle block acts as a magnetic shunt to make output adjustments.

The core was all rusted out and Im sure the laminations were no longer separated from each other. ;)

Anyways...

So with proportions/power, are you saying we can relate common electronics, or particularly , power supplies, like cell phone, or laptop size, to what power we could expect from an ou device? Or would the ou device be larger in comparison?

Happy Thanks Giving, no matter where you are. ;)

Mags ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 23, 2012, 05:55:49 AM

Quote from: forest on November 20, 2012, 01:27:39 AM
however switchmode inverter using high frequency can be small except capacitors and maybe mosfets with heatsink

Ya, :) i also agree with you, but what i'm saying is that the tesla almost pure coil free energy makes bulky device defending on the watts, like for example the 100kv of TK.

in using almost all electronic component, i think they cannot handle the power very much, well, there are solutions but their life is just from 5-15 years in comparison to tesla tech that can reach up to 30 years. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 23, 2012, 06:44:43 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 21, 2012, 09:25:20 PM
What you say about the heat, Tesla talked about using instead of round wire, using ribbon or strips. I have to read it again, I think he didnt know if it was the larger surface area of the ribbon or another reason heat was less of a factor. Tesla. Would loved to have known him. ;) Some laptop supplies, some of the transformers have at least 1 flat ribbon winding. Ive had one that had 2. Also, an arc welder I was checking out, large, 10 in. by 10 in. laminated core, 3 in thick. The primary was like 1/4 in. round copper and the sec was 2 different windings of flat windings, one was for high power and the other for low. Picture a square core wound like we see a toroid in a diagram, primary on one side and sec on the other. but this being square, there is one more ingredient to the welder....
A large knob on the front casing was connected to a shaft, with a rectangular laminated block, suspended on the core between the windings. When you turn the big knob, the rectangular core can be turned to where the rectangle block acts as a magnetic shunt to make output adjustments.

The core was all rusted out and Im sure the laminations were no longer separated from each other. ;)

Anyways...

So with proportions/power, are you saying we can relate common electronics, or particularly , power supplies, like cell phone, or laptop size, to what power we could expect from an ou device? Or would the ou device be larger in comparison?

Happy Thanks Giving, no matter where you are. ;)

Mags ;D

well, i believe Tesla has a reason. ;)

As i am looking the design of a radiator of an auto, it seems that tesla is right. :)

The thing that faster to cool is something that tesla is referring.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 25, 2012, 02:48:53 AM

ok!

Believe it or not the battery was just used as an alternative negative common ground. because if you notice his designs in wireless tech, all of his sketch are connected to earth ground, obviously he cannot carry the earth ground in a four wheels ;)

and obviously nobody answer that. heheheheheheh lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on November 25, 2012, 08:55:21 AM

That is obvious. The question is where the extra energy comes from. Where is it pumped from.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 25, 2012, 09:39:02 AM

Quote from: bboj on November 25, 2012, 08:55:21 AM
That is obvious. The question is where the extra energy comes from. Where is it pumped from.

From the same source which gives us gravitation....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on November 25, 2012, 11:38:33 AM

How you see the gravity

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on November 25, 2012, 11:40:44 AM

And what mechanism you propose for pumping

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 25, 2012, 01:06:28 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 25, 2012, 02:48:53 AM
ok!

Believe it or not the battery was just used as an alternative negative common ground. because if you notice his designs in wireless tech, all of his sketch are connected to earth ground, obviously he cannot carry the earth ground in a four wheels ;)

and obviously nobody answer that. heheheheheheh lol

Hmm. So why not use the car chassis as an alternative ground? What properties of the battery enable it to be a ground alternative, but the car chassis not?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 25, 2012, 01:12:23 PM

I don't have a complete theory, nor I do care. All I want is to make a home heater without consuming energy ;D
Anyway, I proposed experiment which every bigger scientific lab could make in minutes, if having proper materials.
http://www.supertightstuff.com/04/10/featured/superconductors-and-magnetic-levitation/

However my proposition is about a modification to this experiment. Lastly scientists can produce thin superconductor sheets and also thin very strong neodymium magnets.

They should create a thin round superconductor and then completely opaque it with thin superconductor.
Then such composite should be cooled down and watched....if it would levitate or even flow up outside the Earth then connection between magnetic field and gravity will be proven.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on November 25, 2012, 02:10:58 PM

"Opaque" is an adjective, meaning: not transparent; and it makes no sense in this sentence. You probably meant: "to envelope" or "to encapsulate" (in this case).

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on November 25, 2012, 03:51:45 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 25, 2012, 01:06:28 PM
Hmm. So why not use the car chassis as an alternative ground? What properties of the battery enable it to be a ground alternative, but the car chassis not?

Mags

I would say to ger high negative charge

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on November 25, 2012, 05:45:31 PM

Mags

yes! the properties of the battery enable it to be a alternative negative common ground. Tito tell the truth.
but, nobody can tell how the used electrons get energy again when they return back from the middle way(like a U turn)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 25, 2012, 10:27:37 PM

Quote from: bboj on November 25, 2012, 03:51:45 PM

I would say to ger high negative charge

But think about this...

Say we have 2 identical batteries. If we connect an LED to the neg of one battery and to the positive of the other, does the led light? Or even try with caps. Light? ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on November 25, 2012, 10:38:02 PM

@Magluvin,

You need to connect the other two poles to complete the series circuit, then your input voltage would be the sum of the two naturally. Just connecting two of the four poles would do nothing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 25, 2012, 10:44:15 PM

Quote from: weizisky on November 25, 2012, 05:45:31 PM
Mags

yes! the properties of the battery enable it to be a alternative negative common ground. Tito tell the truth.
but, nobody can tell how the used electrons get energy again when they return back from the middle way(like a U turn)

I believe that if OU exists, that the circuits dont necessarily need to draw upon external electrons to have excess power per input. What if the output to load is a loop? Would adding more electrons to that loop provide more power than we input? Or could it be a special mechanism(electronic) that we are missing that can make the power in that output loop greater than the input.

If an earth ground is needed or used, there must be a way to us looping instead. Because all we are doing is using the earth for currents to flow from one end of the circuit. And if there is current flowing in and out of the circuit via the earth ground, then there must be another end of the circuit(ant, or remainder of circuit in air) that has current flowing in and out also in the opposite direction.

So why cant we just loop these 2 ends of the circuit?

I think. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 25, 2012, 10:46:36 PM

Quote from: synchro1 on November 25, 2012, 10:38:02 PM
@Magluvin,

You need to connect the other two poles to complete the series circuit, then your input voltage would be the sum of the two naturally. Just connecting two of the four poles would do nothing.

I know. ;) Was just a thought example. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 26, 2012, 01:44:00 AM

I emabrrased. By mistake I took live wire connected to my circuit via transformer and the second end of primary O connected to my garden water pipe. It was working fine ! No need to use neutral wire at all.... I know that here in Europe somewhere the neutral wire is connected to ground wire but the point is that my garden water pipe is connected to my well via iron pipes and is located 20m from my house. What is going on ?
I tried it with inverter but it doesn't work at all.
I don't understand ground :-[ , is that filled with current from all houses around ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 26, 2012, 01:59:24 AM

Quote from: forest on November 26, 2012, 01:44:00 AM
I emabrrased. By mistake I took live wire connected to my circuit via transformer and the second end of primary O connected to my garden water pipe. It was working fine ! No need to use neutral wire at all.... I know that here in Europe somewhere the neutral wire is connected to ground wire but the point is that my garden water pipe is connected to my well via iron pipes and is located 20m from my house. What is going on ?
I tried it with inverter but it doesn't work at all.
I don't understand ground :-[ , is that filled with current from all houses around ?

What circuit?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 26, 2012, 06:03:45 AM

hey buddy don't forget that the chasis of a car is also connected in the negative pole of the battery right? ;)

Now, i don't know exactly the correct word for it but the closest is the "buffer effect or a scratch" that is the use of the battery.

and that is the way i see it. 8)
AND IN THIS MANNER ALSO, I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY A BATTERY WILL NOT LAST LONGER? AM I RIGHT QWERT? ::)

The reason why battery is used, it is because there is a pulling action with the two pole. did you get that ladies and gentlemen? ;)

so that when a signal is detected in the antenna, then the electron in the negative pole will react to the proton made by the signal.

so then after that, the electron will go back to the negative pole of the battery because of the pulling effect of the protons in the other side of the battery. Did you get it again class? ;) ;D 8)

And That is the truth happening to that thing. ;)

Bye HOPE IT CAN HELP TO EVERYONE :D

GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!! :)

MERRY CHRISTMASS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!! :-*

ALWAYS REMEMBER: A THOUSAND STEPS START WITH THE FIRST ;)

UP TO NEXT EPISODE EVERYONE, I'M SO EXCITEMENT ;D HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL

TITO L. ORACION ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 26, 2012, 10:21:14 PM

Soooo, we put a 1.8 meter antenna on the batt positive, and the neg works as a ground?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on November 27, 2012, 02:17:19 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 26, 2012, 10:21:14 PM
Soooo, we put a 1.8 meter antenna on the batt positive, and the neg works as a ground?

Mags

I think antena on tthe negative through capacitor

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on November 27, 2012, 09:17:11 AM

Typically, the DC Ground to Earth Ground is made on the battery negative.

Here's a video by Imhoteb of him lighting a 120 volt LED with 'ZERO AMP' draw. He has the bulb wired to the positive pole of the battery only, and the negative to the neutral Earth Ground. The natural oscillating frequency of magnatisem is 1.59 Khz. This must be the frequency of the positive battery to ground oscillation that's exciting the LED crystal into illumination with zero current draw. It may be possible to wire an endless number of 120 volt LED bulbs in series this way, and still maintain the zero amp draw! Excellent job!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR7dEJtP79A&feature=em-subs_digest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR7dEJtP79A&feature=em-subs_digest)

This older kind of Lights of America in the picture has been proof tested for series gain. Other newer bulbs are built with inhibiting circutry that can spoil this effect.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on November 27, 2012, 06:32:42 PM

"I took a 12 Volt battery and connected its positive terminal to one end of an LED bulb with enough series protection resistor. Then I connected the other end of the LED bulb to earth (soil with moisture outside my house). I did not connect the negative terminal of the battery to anything. I expected the bulb to glow, but it did not glow until I connected the negative terminal of the battery to the ground as well." This is apparently how Imtotob completes his circuit as stated by him in :18 seconds of his video. He registors zero amp draw! It's important to note that you can't use the same point for the battery Earth Ground! You need two different Earth Grounds! This completes the circuit. The voltage differential between the grounds generates the transverse oscillation in the standing wave!

Here's a good video on the electrical circuit by Bill Nye:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg-XFXdtZnQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg-XFXdtZnQ)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on November 27, 2012, 10:19:37 PM

New Cross Over oscillator video from Sohei Thoth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBX-exTdDS4&feature=em-subs_digest&list=TLJyMHbuMssBs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBX-exTdDS4&feature=em-subs_digest&list=TLJyMHbuMssBs)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on November 28, 2012, 12:07:37 PM

At 1:40 of Bill Nye's video, he closes a blade switch on a battery and bulb in series, and shows the current runnng from the negative side of the battery through the bulb then into the positive pole of the battery. Just the opposite of what anyone else will tell you. Further they disscect a battery and show a carbon rod dieletric semi conductor core, connected to the positive node of the battery. The carbon core is inside an aluminum conductor cup connected to the negative side, with a chemical electrolite in between.

The Earth's molton iron core is rotating faster then the crust, like the roter in an electrical generator. Giga-watts are bled off to form the Earth's protective Electro Magnetic Field every second.

A carbon core is the positive dielectric or insulator core. This material is electron vacuuous, and Power generated from the Earth's spinning Iron core flows into this electron deserted positive ground, through the LED and back into the second seperated groind exciting the crystal while completing the circuit. The light DIODE allows the fluctuating ground field to pass in one direction only to comple the circuit. The current passes at a kilohertz frequency.

With the current not flowing, but standing still, a traverse oscillation vibrates the standing sine wave on the lateral plane. At 1.59 Khz, the constant oscillating frequency of magnatisem. This vibration is the same along the Bloch Wall in every permanent magnet. This is a natural phenomenon. and excites the crystal in the LED and lightes it up with zero amp draw. The standing oscillation and current flow dovetail to cause flickering in the bilb. The message from the Bill Nye video is that negative and positive are labeled backwards!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 28, 2012, 01:05:20 PM

My theory is that from positive terminal flows a signal, energy which causes the electron to move from negative terminal, or rather current flow, because electrons just bounce one to another. From negative terminal maybe there is a flow of energy too.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on November 28, 2012, 03:04:02 PM

@Forest,

Exactly. The dielectric grows saturated, and the surfeit of electrons travels to the conductor through the chemical electrolyte.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on November 28, 2012, 04:01:56 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 26, 2012, 06:03:45 AM
hey buddy don't forget that the chasis of a car is also connected in the negative pole of the battery right? ;)

Now, i don't know exactly the correct word for it but the closest is the "buffer effect or a scratch" that is the use of the battery.

and that is the way i see it. 8)
AND IN THIS MANNER ALSO, I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY A BATTERY WILL NOT LAST LONGER? AM I RIGHT QWERT? ::)

What signal you detect in antenna?

The reason why battery is used, it is because there is a pulling action with the two pole. did you get that ladies and gentlemen? ;)

so that when a signal is detected in the antenna, then the electron in the negative pole will react to the proton made by the signal.

so then after that, the electron will go back to the negative pole of the battery because of the pulling effect of the protons in the other side of the battery. Did you get it again class? ;) ;D 8)

And That is the truth happening to that thing. ;)

Bye HOPE IT CAN HELP TO EVERYONE :D

GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!! :)

MERRY CHRISTMASS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!! :-*

ALWAYS REMEMBER: A THOUSAND STEPS START WITH THE FIRST ;)

UP TO NEXT EPISODE EVERYONE, I'M SO EXCITEMENT ;D HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL

TITO L. ORACION ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on November 28, 2012, 04:11:42 PM

@bboj,

Once again, this says everything:

"The electron will go back to the negative pole of the battery because of the pulling effect of the protons in the other side of the battery".

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on November 28, 2012, 06:12:43 PM

All very interesting...
Today I worked on a replication of the cross over circuit. Among other things I was able to light a single led by connecting it on to the transformer coil (secondary) and could light the bulb while holding the other end of the led in my hand. It lit both ways, that is with either polarity, or either way.
The 10 led light bulb did also flicker at bit, which may prove something, along with a small voltage variation of maybe 1/2 to 1 volt. I'm just getting into this circuit, but I thought that I'd add what I've found so far. The circuit is still discharging it's batteries, so I not seeing any free energy from it yet. I'm NOT using the AC ground, as I know that has leaching capacitive voltage, but no real current to it. I do use an outside earth ground.
I also feel this circuit has something in common with Dr. Stiffler's PSEC circuits.
My two cents...
NickZ
Ps. Tito:
Thanks for the tip... Happy New Year, also.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on November 29, 2012, 02:29:11 AM

Quote from: synchro1 on November 28, 2012, 04:11:42 PM
@bboj,

Once again, this says everything:

"The electron will go back to the negative pole of the battery because of the pulling effect of the protons in the other side of the battery".

Jes but where comes the signal in antena from?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on November 29, 2012, 08:30:29 AM

@bboj,

Lightening starts from the ground and goes up as a dark negative spike. This has been captured in video. The antenna's really the ground in Tesla's radient energy generators!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on November 29, 2012, 10:06:50 AM

Quote from: synchro1 on November 29, 2012, 08:30:29 AM
@bboj,

Lightening starts from the ground and goes up as a dark negative spike. This has been captured in video. The antenna's really the ground in Tesla's radient energy generators!

So how do you start the spike and where does it go?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on November 29, 2012, 10:32:45 AM

@bboj,

Tesla's first patent was his spark gap generator. It consisted of two capacitor plates charged with opposite polarity, and a pair of electrodes facing one another a a distance. One capacitor plate is connected to an Earth ground and the other to an raised antenna. As a charge builds in the capacitor plates, the field lowers the resistance in the gap between the adjacent electrodes, and a spark jumps. Now where does it go? Everywhere, and can be detected from any point in the Universe!

Now, we can channel this high voltage apark through a high voltage coil of narrow gauge and many turns, and recover amperage through a primary of thick wire and few turns wraped around a transformer core. The power in this case emenates from the ground, exits as either a broadcast signal or stored ppwer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 29, 2012, 08:18:04 PM

Quote from: synchro1 on November 29, 2012, 10:32:45 AM

Now, we can channel this high voltage apark through a high voltage coil of narrow gauge and many turns, and recover amperage through a primary of thick wire and few turns wraped around a transformer core. The power in this case emenates from the ground, exits as either a broadcast signal or stored ppwer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on November 29, 2012, 08:43:12 PM

@Mags,

The cap discharge is at the highest broadcast range voltage. A very high inductance primary coil is required to catch it. Ohmic resistance is extremely low. The charge would simply pass right through a thicker winding of fewer wraps. A crystal radio diode and reciever coil rectify and transform full sine wave energy to power a low inductance headset. That's a close comparison.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 29, 2012, 10:11:02 PM

Quote from: synchro1 on November 29, 2012, 08:43:12 PM
A crystal radio diode and reciever coil rectify and transform full sine wave energy to power a low inductance headset. That's a close comparison.

So a radio transmitter being received by a crystal radio is OU when we consider the input to the transmitter vs what comes out of the headphones? ??? Or are we not talking about Energy Amplification? ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on November 30, 2012, 01:55:04 AM

Ive seen a lot of drawings of
2 tesla coils, the first is run as
we know, a step up, and the
other is used as a step down,
in which the HV from the
step up TC is 'sparked to the step down TC. I dont get it. what is the
point of stepping up voltage
only to step it down again? Mags

--End of Quote--

The reason why teslacoil need to step up the voltage is because that where is the power amplification appears. Doubling the input voltage will quadraple the power output, increasing the input voltage 4x will increase the output power 16x. But high voltage in the output is very dangerous so we need to step down it and convert it again to 60hz 220v.

Source: Don Smith

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 30, 2012, 03:21:12 AM

Yes, I agree. Higher voltage rise power output and minimalize heat looses due to resistance. However there is a problem with mosfets or igbt, right ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on November 30, 2012, 05:01:35 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on November 30, 2012, 01:55:04 AM
Ive seen a lot of drawings of
2 tesla coils, the first is run as
we know, a step up, and the
other is used as a step down,
in which the HV from the
step up TC is 'sparked to the step down TC. I dont get it. what is the
point of stepping up voltage
only to step it down again? Mags

--End of Quote--

The reason why teslacoil need to step up the voltage is because that where is the power amplification appears. Doubling the input voltage will quadraple the power output, increasing the input voltage 4x will increase the output power 16x. But high voltage in the output is very dangerous so we need to step down it and convert it again to 60hz 220v.

Source: Don Smith

Don Smiths Quote - wil not happen if you onliy step up voltage in first Tesla coil and transform it in power in the second - receiving Tesla coil. There has to be additional arrangement that sucks additional power in the system.

With 2 coils - you can only accumulate power received in short intervals and release it in longer intervals. Thus the power only accumulates and discharges at a higher rate.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on November 30, 2012, 07:47:18 AM

"Don Smiths Quote - wil not happen if you onliy step up voltage in first Tesla coil and transform it in power in the second - receiving Tesla coil. There has to be additional arrangement that sucks additional power in the system".

This additional arrangement is power sucked into the system up through an Earth ground. Tesla's patents show lines emenating from an ariel antenna, but there are no directional arrows. This antenna is really a "Sky Ground", not a receiver!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on November 30, 2012, 12:21:12 PM

Quote from: synchro1 on November 30, 2012, 07:47:18 AM
"Don Smiths Quote - wil not happen if you onliy step up voltage in first Tesla coil and transform it in power in the second - receiving Tesla coil. There has to be additional arrangement that sucks additional power in the system".

This additional arrangement is power sucked into the system up through an Earth ground. Tesla's patents show lines emenating from an ariel antenna, but there are no directional arrows. This antenna is really a "Sky Ground", not a receiver!

What about this:

>> Stepped-up high voltage from not so high turns ratio.

An experimenter is interested in determining the approximate turns ratio of an automobile ignition coil. He impresses a small audio frequency sinewave on the primary terminals and uses an oscilloscope to measure the induced voltage in the secondary. As a result of this measurement technique, it is found that the voltage step-up is approximately 100. This does not appear reasonable because 100 times the 12 V of the automobile battery falls far short of the 15 000-30 000 V needed for firing spark plugs. What is the nature of the discrepancy? Although not commonly referred to as a 'flyback' transformer, the ignition coil develops its high secondary voltage in a similar manner to the flyback transformer in a television set. In both instances, the primary winding requires a waveform with a very high rate of voltage or current change. Such a waveform induces a high voltage counter EMF in the primary and it is this induced voltage which is stepped-up further in the secondary. Thus in an automobile ignition system, the abrupt cut-off of the applied 12 V induces a counter EMF in the primary with a peak amplitude of about 250-300 V. When this purposely-produced 'transient' is multiplied by a 100 to 1 step-up turns ratio, one obtains the 25 kV or so needed for reliable firing of the plugs. << - from Practical Transformer Handbook.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on November 30, 2012, 12:54:26 PM

Here's a video from Imtotob: He has grid neutral and ground connected to the 12 volt leads of a 12 to 120 volt Radio Shack transformer lighting a 120 volt bulb off 70 millivolts between the grounds! The bulb is apparently pulsing the transformer. Wow!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwm0r0bk8dM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwm0r0bk8dM)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 30, 2012, 01:19:40 PM

Qwert

All would be fine but then IF flyback voltage is stepped up to kV why I see a 100- 400V spike on primary ? Or better yet , why in car coil driver or in ordinary DC to AC inverter mosfet has to be protected by diode (either internally of external) to avoid damage ? Something is fishy because if energy is transfered to secondary why we have problems on primary side ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on November 30, 2012, 03:50:12 PM

Quote from: forest on November 30, 2012, 01:19:40 PM
Qwert

All would be fine but then IF flyback voltage is stepped up to kV why I see a 100- 400V spike on primary ? Or better yet , why in car coil driver or in ordinary DC to AC inverter mosfet has to be protected by diode (either internally of external) to avoid damage ? Something is fishy because if energy is transfered to secondary why we have problems on primary side ?

Read it again:

... In both instances, the primary winding requires a waveform with a very high rate of voltage or current change. Such a waveform induces a high voltage counter EMF in the primary and it is this induced voltage which is stepped-up further in the secondary. Thus in an automobile ignition system, the abrupt cut-off of the applied 12 V induces a counter EMF in the primary with a peak amplitude of about 250-300 V. When this purposely-produced 'transient' is multiplied by a 100 to 1 step-up turns ratio, one obtains the 25 kV or so needed for reliable firing of the plugs.

About 250-300V, in primary; you say 100-400V; maybe your data is somewhat less accurate. After all it's an excerpt from a specialized handbook.

This problem was already on stake, this guy claims there is difference between cars an Tesla coil:

http://www.overunity.com/8841/electrical-igniter-for-gas-engines-a-keystone-to-understanding-by-magluvin/msg231175/#msg231175

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on November 30, 2012, 04:07:20 PM

Here's Imtotob's circuit schematic.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on November 30, 2012, 06:50:10 PM

Quote from: Qwert on November 30, 2012, 12:21:12 PM
What about this:

>> Stepped-up high voltage from not so high turns ratio.

An experimenter is interested in determining the approximate turns ratio of an automobile ignition coil. He impresses a small audio frequency sinewave on the primary terminals and uses an oscilloscope to measure the induced voltage in the secondary. As a result of this measurement technique, it is found that the voltage step-up is approximately 100. This does not appear reasonable because 100 times the 12 V of the automobile battery falls far short of the 15 000-30 000 V needed for firing spark plugs. What is the nature of the discrepancy? Although not commonly referred to as a 'flyback' transformer, the ignition coil develops its high secondary voltage in a similar manner to the flyback transformer in a television set. In both instances, the primary winding requires a waveform with a very high rate of voltage or current change. Such a waveform induces a high voltage counter EMF in the primary and it is this induced voltage which is stepped-up further in the secondary. Thus in an automobile ignition system, the abrupt cut-off of the applied 12 V induces a counter EMF in the primary with a peak amplitude of about 250-300 V. When this purposely-produced 'transient' is multiplied by a 100 to 1 step-up turns ratio, one obtains the 25 kV or so needed for reliable firing of the plugs. << - from Practical Transformer Handbook.

Hi Qwert, all ignition coils are not created equal, some have resistors in them, ignition coils are DC pulse transformers and do operate like a flyback but the transformation rate is higher than 1:100 I think, typically an ignition coils primary has a 240 to 500 nF capacitor, one end of the secondary is connected to either the ground or positive of the primary which makes it a circuit ground connected 1/4 wave device if at resonance. The primary capacitor allows a much greater delivery of energy to the primary and the primary voltage is more like 14 volts, yes because of the use of a sine wave excitation the transformation ratio test is flawed. During the off time of the primary the magnetic field discharge would cause a steep rise in voltage. Ignition coils are similar to flybacks as they use a DC pulse input but they also employ capacitor across the primary.

Try an experiment to see the difference in voltage produced with a 50% DC pulse with and without the capacitor. Or even with AC sine wave excitation.

When the stored energy in the primary is discharged the resulting emf is forward and not counter, it is in the same direction as the applied emf. The counter emf is only present to oppose the charging of the coil and the discharging of the coil, counter emf is always opposing the emf and the discharge from a coil is forward emf.

The counter emf does nothing to induce voltage in the secondary. If the coil discharge was counter emf what would it be countering ? Counter emf only exists when there is emf to counter. the instant the applied emf is stopped the counter emf ceases to exist then when the coil discharges it produces emf which is then opposed by counter emf . A coil cannot discharge counter emf, it makes no sense.

Cheers

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 30, 2012, 10:33:17 PM

Quote from: Farmhand on November 30, 2012, 06:50:10 PM
Hi Qwert, all ignition coils are not created equal, some have resistors in them, ignition coils are DC pulse transformers and do operate like a flyback but the transformation rate is higher than 1:100 I think, typically an ignition coils primary has a 240 to 500 nF capacitor, one end of the secondary is connected to either the ground or positive of the primary which makes it a circuit ground connected 1/4 wave device if at resonance. The primary capacitor allows a much greater delivery of energy to the primary and the primary voltage is more like 14 volts, yes because of the use of a sine wave excitation the transformation ratio test is flawed. During the off time of the primary the magnetic field discharge would cause a steep rise in voltage. Ignition coils are similar to flybacks as they use a DC pulse input but they also employ capacitor across the primary.

Try an experiment to see the difference in voltage produced with a 50% DC pulse with and without the capacitor. Or even with AC sine wave excitation.

When the stored energy in the primary is discharged the resulting emf is forward and not counter, it is in the same direction as the applied emf. The counter emf is only present to oppose the charging of the coil and the discharging of the coil, counter emf is always opposing the emf and the discharge from a coil is forward emf.

The counter emf does nothing to induce voltage in the secondary. If the coil discharge was counter emf what would it be countering ? Counter emf only exists when there is emf to counter. the instant the applied emf is stopped the counter emf ceases to exist then when the coil discharges it produces emf which is then opposed by counter emf . A coil cannot discharge counter emf, it makes no sense.

Cheers

If we are talking about a standard points ignition, the cap is not really 'across' the primary.

12v from batt to the + of the coil primary
12- from batt to points(switch)
Other side of points switch to - of coil primary
Cap is connected across switch.

When the points are closed, the cap is shorted by the switch and not a working part of the circuit. The closed period is longer than the open period

When the switch opens, the coil field collapses (in both primary and HV coil) inducing currents in the coils

If the cap were not there, a lot of the collapse energy will be lost in a spark across the switch and no more activity, thus small spark on the output.

With the cap(empty from being shorted), the primary collapse will charge the cap(no spark at switch as the cap provides an alternate path), and then oscillation. Thus big long spark on the output.

When you carefully observe the output spark of a setup with and without the cap across the switch, without the cap, you will see 1 thin short spark. With the cap. big long, multiple sparks. Like multi strands of wire in a bundle, compared to just 1 strand. Its actually visible. Try with sunglasses or some dark filter. Its not just ionization that makes the spark so thick, its multiple sparks that are not traveling the same path as the previous one. It all happens so fast it is like it is all happening at once. But each of the multiple spark strands happens with each phase of operation over time.

So in reallity, a standard ign system is a multiple spark ign of sorts. An MSD actually discharges a cap multiple times to the primary. No oscillation there, but the MSD produces high power in each of the multiple sparks during the timing period, where the standard IGN with oscillation gradually dies out from the initial start of the oscillation.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 30, 2012, 10:38:47 PM

Oh, forgot, the oscillations of the cap and coil when the points are opened, go through the battery also, as it is part of the series circuit inline with the cap and coil. Not that it means anything, but is a fact. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on November 30, 2012, 11:12:05 PM

Well maybe on your car coil it is but all the ones i have seen and bought and used the condenser is directly across the primary coil right on the top of the ignition coil and bolted to it's low voltage terminals. There is also one in the distributor. It is there to absorb the spikes, depending on how the ignition is wired depends on how the condenser is placed. The object of it is to absorb the spikes and stop arcing in the points but when used in experiments if it is placed directly across the primary the coils performance is improved.

Some ignition coils have the LV end of the secondary connected to the primary positive and some have it connected to the primary negative, some cars can also have a positive ground from what I've been told. And some a negative ground.

http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080803011923AAKIebG

In this distributor here the condenser in the distributor can be seen poking out from behind the right side of the rotor..

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/holden-253-308-distributor-/300826423233?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item460aa6efc1#ht_500wt_1414

..

Cheers

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 30, 2012, 11:40:52 PM

Quote from: Farmhand on November 30, 2012, 11:12:05 PM
Well maybe on your car coil it is but all the ones i have seen and bought and used the condenser is directly across the primary coil right on the top of the ignition coil and bolted to it's low voltage terminals. There is also one in the distributor. It is there to absorb the spikes, depending on how the ignition is wired depends on how the condenser is placed. The object of it is to absorb the spikes and stop arcing in the points but when used in experiments if it is placed directly across the primary the coils performance is improved.

Some ignition coils have the LV end of the secondary connected to the primary positive and some have it connected to the primary negative, some cars can also have a positive ground from what I've been told. And some a negative ground.

http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080803011923AAKIebG (http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080803011923AAKIebG)

In this distributor here the condenser in the distributor can be seen poking out from behind the right side of the rotor..

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/holden-253-308-distributor-/300826423233?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item460aa6efc1#ht_500wt_1414 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/holden-253-308-distributor-/300826423233?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item460aa6efc1#ht_500wt_1414)

..

Cheers

;) That is another cap. The one Im talking about is under the distributor cap across the points.

I do Corvette restorations. Like a 65 Vette, they have both caps, in the dist and one connected to the + of the coil and the other end to ground on the motor(coil mounting strap). So being the points are not always closed, the external cap in only across the primary part time, and when the points are closed.
The assembly manual and schematics state the cap is for noise suppression. They have 3 more caps under the dash, one on the brake switch (stop lamps), one on the amp meter and another to the radio power and gnd. All for noise suppression.

Ive seen no significant difference if any with or without the external caps on the coil. But that one in the distributor across the points, if that is missing or bad, the car wont even start in most cases.

This guy Rich, no longer working for us, was bench testing coils with a metered spark gap. He asked me after a bit, "can all these coils be bad?" I looked at what he was doing. Just energizing the primary with a battery. The spark from most of the coils was less than or about 1/4 in. Thin and weak. Then I showed him to put a cap across his open connections, and bam, inch to 2 inch sparks. Thick and rich. ;D

All the coils were good. ;D ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 30, 2012, 11:47:13 PM

By the way. There is a lot of mixed info out there on this stuff. Investigating is the best way to see what is true or not.
Some info says that the distributor cap is just to protect the contacts of the points. Yes it does. But they dont always tell you what the cap also does.
I dont know why that is. ;) ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on November 30, 2012, 11:49:45 PM

Yes you are correct with a bad condenser in the distributor the engine won't run.
My point being that a the spike plays no real part in the voltage produced by the secondary because it is absorbed by the condenser/s.

I've been messing with points ignitions since I got my first motor bike at 13 years old, by 15 and 1/2 I was racing cars in the speedway, which over here is all dirt track stuff.
I did most of the work myself, changing engines, tuning, locking diffs with a welder ;D changing entire front ends ect. I owned about 5 cars and a motorcycle when i was 15 years old paid for with my own earned money too. However I pay for it now with pain, already two discs removed from my neck and two more ruptured soon after the operation. But boy oh boy it sure was fun.

Cheers

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 01, 2012, 03:21:05 AM

Counter emf is the source of lenz law I believe ? When primary is opened there is no counter emf ? I have been told that transfer from primary to secondary of transformer is done via magnetic field change, right ?
This magnetic field change induce current in secondary. Does it also induce current in primary ? Hmm...maybe, but I see it as overcomplication. Why do not assume just that original current in primary when stopped is converted into oscillations of primary coil RCL circuit and tries to escape as heat or flyback spike or RF transmission or ground current ? Anyway my original point is that if energy from primary would be transfered via magnetic field into current of secondary as is stated in many descriptions of transformer action then we should not have ANY signs of energy left in primary circuit !!!! Simple as that !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on December 01, 2012, 06:15:53 PM

Quote from: forest on December 01, 2012, 03:21:05 AM
Counter emf is the source of lenz law I believe ? When primary is opened there is no counter emf ? I have been told that transfer from primary to secondary of transformer is done via magnetic field change, right ?
This magnetic field change induce current in secondary. Does it also induce current in primary ? Hmm...maybe, but I see it as overcomplication. Why do not assume just that original current in primary when stopped is converted into oscillations of primary coil RCL circuit and tries to escape as heat or flyback spike or RF transmission or ground current ? Anyway my original point is that if energy from primary would be transfered via magnetic field into current of secondary as is stated in many descriptions of transformer action then we should not have ANY signs of energy left in primary circuit !!!! Simple as that !

Not true, it depends on several factors, coupling, capacitance, load ect.

For there to be no sign of any energy in the primary the secondary would need to be shorted and the off time would need to be long enough for the primary to discharge all of
it's field energy and for that energy to be completely transferred to the secondary and dissipated somehow.

Cheers

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 02, 2012, 05:37:42 AM

To the keeper

Why not tell the secret now, they are almost already there. :)

c-mon please. :)

just the twist. ;)

ok!

Everyone:
You consider this question again:"When is the start of a kick? and how to make the best kick" ;)

You have to analyze the origin and effect of a kick. as SM stated it as the secret. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pix on December 02, 2012, 06:46:07 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 02, 2012, 05:37:42 AM
To the keeper

Why not tell the secret now, they are almost already there. :)

c-mon please. :)

just the twist. ;)

ok!

Everyone:
You consider this question again:"When is the start of a kick? and how to make the best kick" ;)

You have to analyze the origin and effect of a kick. as SM stated it as the secret. ;)

By "kick", you mean back EMF, or magetic field pulse, or transwerse radiation of displacement current?
Regards,
pix

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 02, 2012, 08:00:50 AM

capacitor ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on December 02, 2012, 09:28:56 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 02, 2012, 05:37:42 AM
To the keeper

Why not tell the secret now, they are almost already there. :)

c-mon please. :)

just the twist. ;)

ok!

Everyone:
You consider this question again:"When is the start of a kick? and how to make the best kick" ;)

You have to analyze the origin and effect of a kick. as SM stated it as the secret. ;)

One pulse With a low impedance coil then dump into cap? ::) Then repeat process to collect bemf? ??? Then dump to load? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 02, 2012, 11:54:35 AM

I had thought many times what the kick is. It still eludes me as to what it is exactly and how to apply it.

Its funny. There are many here that are"TPU Elite", yet it seems they have not figured it out yet either.

I dunno.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 02, 2012, 02:06:47 PM

QuoteYou consider this question again:"When is the start of a kick? and how to make the best kick" (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fwink.gif&hash=0d9aacf9391b7fda4adbf7cd091f687bfd283341)
You have to analyze the origin and effect of a kick. as SM stated it as the secret. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fwink.gif&hash=0d9aacf9391b7fda4adbf7cd091f687bfd283341)

I've always assumed the "kick" was the discharge from a capacitor. Granted, it's not going to be a "disruptive discharge" as specified by Tesla. But still a kick. My theory is:

- the larger iron shorted wire coil on the TPU is picking up the earth's mag field.
- SM places a magnet on the coil to get the magnetic current circulating in the iron wire coil.
- Perpendicular copper wire coil on the iron wire coil picks up induced voltage (from the
circulating mag current), which is fed into a cap.
- Cap discharges and you have a "kick."

Problem for me is:

- Does it discharge into another perpendicularly wound copper coil, and that one into
another? (To provide multiple successive kicks)
- Do the caps charge in parallel and discharge in series? If this is the case, I believe you need
a diode after the cap.

Another thing that concerns me is runaway -
- Tito mentioned using a fuse to prevent runaway and melt down.

If the above description has some merit, then
- Multiple perpendicular coils with cap will produce multiple kicks and a ringing
effect in shorted iron wire coil, which can be picked up and used for power by a
perpendicularly wound coil.

My two cents. You guys are the giants and I'm a mouse, but trying to make sense of it all...
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 02, 2012, 02:42:05 PM

Bob

There are no giants currently on Earth ;) If you are mouse then I'm a piece of cheese ;D
Anyway, very good theory. I'm working on kind of related devices but yet not found OU.
I believe we can use just ferrite core toroid instead of iron wire, only iron atoms are required to tap external magnetic field. If we ae talking about TPU then I have kind of confirmation that original event of TV explosion was related to yoke coil. Very interesting is also that Kapanadze used part of TV set electronics in his device.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 03, 2012, 05:02:41 AM

oh boy its really getting excitement here. ;D

it seems that no one got a bulse eye ;) but Bob seems got the nearest points. ;)

all of the needed components are there, its the arrangement only that make the real problem. ;) ::)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 03, 2012, 05:46:31 AM

ha ha switching between parallel and series capacitor connection :P :P :P
Tesla ozone patent

OU comes from difference in TIMINGS

:-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 03, 2012, 05:47:01 AM

Tito

;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 03, 2012, 01:07:50 PM

@Forest: Thanks for the kind words.
@Teets: Thanks for the encouragement.

The only thing I would add at this point is something that came up maybe 6 months ago about using bifilar wire. I did a few experiments pulsing a coil with a perpendicular bifi coil to get a ring effect. When I pulsed the perpendicular bifi coil, there was a definite secondary pulse by induction in the main coil. I think Mags did some work on the bifi idea as well.

Anyway, maybe use of a bifi coil might move us clooooooser to the bulls eye... maybe... Teets? ;D I don't think the cap-diode placement is hard to figure out. Forest mentioned it from one of Tesla's patents. I've seen it in drawings from his patents that Tito has placed in this thread.

If the main coil is a shorted bifi, then it's going to have its own built in LC configuration (a point Mags made some time ago), making it easier to get the ring effect. If the perpendicular coils feed into caps in parallel fashion, then it would seem to me that this makes them LC circuits as well.

So, if the coils load the caps in parallel and discharge in series (using a diode), maybe they'll "kick" some TPU butt? ;D

Take care everybody!
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: phoneboy on December 03, 2012, 08:36:21 PM

@ TITO
Thinking that the secret is knowing how to harness the difference between the two.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X5CDjHFruk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X5CDjHFruk)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on December 03, 2012, 09:51:52 PM

I think the kick is the sudden increase of voltage when a switch is closed in a very high voltage circuit with load. I am not talking here the bemf because this kick is only occur on the first flow of current and it can produce without inductor and capacitor. Just closing of switch in a very high voltage circuit and you can produce this kick. It also produce radiant energy that causes a stinging sensation to the person who operate the switch. I read this somewhere on the net on tesla's document. Steven Mark also talking about this and he figured it out how to use this kick. The kick that based on tesla's discovery.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 03, 2012, 10:37:46 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on December 03, 2012, 01:07:50 PM
@Forest: Thanks for the kind words.
@Teets: Thanks for the encouragement.

The only thing I would add at this point is something that came up maybe 6 months ago about using bifilar wire. I did a few experiments pulsing a coil with a perpendicular bifi coil to get a ring effect. When I pulsed the perpendicular bifi coil, there was a definite secondary pulse by induction in the main coil. I think Mags did some work on the bifi idea as well.

Hey Bob

When you say, perpendicular...

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 03, 2012, 11:31:33 PM

Hi Mags
I remember this came up before too. I'm thinking about a horizontally wound circular shorted bifi iron wire coil. A finer gauge copper coil would be wound around it vertically. If the circumference of the horizontal coil is say, 14 inches, the copper coil might only be one inch wide (and the diameter of the iron coil). It's wound vertically, therefore perpendicular to the horizontal windings. The 2 ends of the copper coil would feed into the 2 legs of a cap, which with the proper placing of a diode, would discharge in series into another coil: Kick - Kick is what I'm thinking.

I'm willing to work on this over the next couple of weeks. Open to any suggestions, note comparisons etc.

Have to get my beauty sleep (early rise for work tomorrow), but would be willing to think this out and give further details - I don't know if I've clarified what I was saying. I'll see if I can find the earlier posts I was referring to as well. I know some variation of this came up...
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on December 04, 2012, 12:13:05 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on December 03, 2012, 09:51:52 PM
I think the kick is the sudden increase of voltage when a switch is closed in a very high voltage circuit with load. I am not talking here the bemf because this kick is only occur on the first flow of current and it can produce without inductor and capacitor. Just closing of switch in a very high voltage circuit and you can produce this kick. It also produce radiant energy that causes a stinging sensation to the person who operate the switch. I read this somewhere on the net on tesla's document. Steven Mark also talking about this and he figured it out how to use this kick. The kick that based on tesla's discovery.

absolutly, You gave the correct answer. but there are several another types of kick, which nobody mentioned it before. Kick means free energy, several people (include Tito) successfully find diffrent way to capture, hold and reproduce kicks, but nearly all of them are the variety of Tesla coil. by the way, I'v seen nobody here really know where the free energy come from until today.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 04, 2012, 07:19:35 PM

@weizisky: You make a good point, and the distinction between bemf and RE is important, I think. Is what you are referring to not the same as Tesla's insistence on a high voltage disruptive discharge?

Did not Tesla also use a magnetically quenched spark gap (with disruptive discharge) for harnessing radiant energy?

If we need the disruptive discharge to reproduce something along the lines of Steven Mark's TPU or Tito's apparatus, perhaps we need to find out how best to do it with the simple ingredients in either or both (coils, caps, diodes [and reed switch? - I think Teets mentioned that awhile back])

Would it be possible to use a reed switch as the spark gap, perhaps with a magnet close by?
Could the disruptive discharge still come from a decent sized capacitor?

There is also the element of push-pull that Tito mentioned very early on. I know some researchers are using a ground connection for the "pull" aspect - but maybe that's not important here.

Okay, enough from me.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 04, 2012, 08:17:08 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on December 03, 2012, 09:51:52 PM
I think the kick is the sudden increase of voltage when a switch is closed in a very high voltage circuit with load. I am not talking here the bemf because this kick is only occur on the first flow of current and it can produce without inductor and capacitor. Just closing of switch in a very high voltage circuit and you can produce this kick. It also produce radiant energy that causes a stinging sensation to the person who operate the switch. I read this somewhere on the net on tesla's document. Steven Mark also talking about this and he figured it out how to use this kick. The kick that based on tesla's discovery.

ok, :) i will correct this one for the benefit of the beneficiaries. ;D lool ;D

There are actually two sources of kicks, and this one you are talking of is not the kick we are aiming for, sorry buddy. :-X

but its true :)

Study the A.C electricity, there are two kicks happening in there ok ;)

Happy experimenting!!!!

To everyone: There is no hope if you stop studying and there are lots of possibilities in continuation. ;)

"FREE ENERGY IS A CONTINUOUS EFFECT"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 04, 2012, 08:25:19 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on December 04, 2012, 07:19:35 PM

If we need the disruptive discharge to reproduce something along the lines of Steven Mark's TPU or Tito's apparatus, perhaps we need to find out how best to do it with the simple ingredients in either or both (coils, caps, diodes [and reed switch? - I think Teets mentioned that awhile back])

You are absolutely correct again buddy. ;)

only one component that we don't need anymore in this design and that is the "reed switch"

i'm only using this read switch when i'm using batteries. :)

and instead of read switch why not use transistor ok?. :)

ok i think that's all for this year :)

Happy Christmass and Merry New year. ;D lol SEE I'M DIFFERENT, I TOLD YOU. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

TITO L. ORACION POGI ;D LOL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 04, 2012, 08:40:28 PM

Quote from: weizisky on December 04, 2012, 12:13:05 PM
absolutly, You gave the correct answer. but there are several another types of kick, which nobody mentioned it before. Kick means free energy, several people (include Tito) successfully find diffrent way to capture, hold and reproduce kicks, but nearly all of them are the variety of Tesla coil. by the way, I'v seen nobody here really know where the free energy come from until today.

Well, buddy i think i know it,

THE FREE ENERGY COMES FROM THE REACTION OF THE COIL FROM THE EXTRA COIL ;) 8)

AND in terms of the sun,

Its the reaction of the EXTRA electron from the silicon by means of heat. ;)

and in term of Magnet,

Its the changing magnetic field that gives energy to the electron to move or flow. ;)

ALL IN ALL: IT IS THE UNBALANCE DESIGN OF EVERYTHING THAT MAKES EVERYTHING FLOW AND SEEK FOR BALANCE. ;) 8)

AND THAT IS THE TRUTH. :o

BYE AND GOOD DAY EVERYONE.

GOD BLESS

TAKE A LOT OF CARE CARE!!! ;D

TEETSLA ;D WHAT A CO- ACCIDENTS ;D ;D ;D LOL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 04, 2012, 09:01:18 PM

By the highway ;D i have a good news to all !!!

my wife is going to give birth next year on february and i'm a father again for the fourth time. ;D its fun its fun !!! like free extra energy.

and you are all ninong and ninang !!!! ;D

by the highway again:
what is ninong and ninang in english??? ???

what do you think is the best name?
a) Nikola teetsla ?
b) magluvin ?
c) wilby#$#@ ?
d)whisky
f) forest
g)ramset
h)bob
i) Qwert, oh i forgot you buddy sorry ;)
i)??????????????????

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on December 04, 2012, 09:10:35 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 04, 2012, 09:01:18 PM
By the highway ;D i have a good news to all !!!

my wife is going to give birth next year on february and i'm a father again for the fourth time. ;D its fun its fun !!! like free extra energy.

and you are all ninong and ninang !!!! ;D

by the highway again:
what is ninong and ninang in english??? ???

what do you think is the best name?
a) Nikola teetsla ?
b) magluvin ?
c) wilby#$#@ ?
d)whisky
f) forest
g)ramset
h)bob
i)??????????????????

Congratulations!

Ninong - ninang -
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_godfather_called_ninong_in_the_Philippines

The best name is.......Qwert!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on December 04, 2012, 09:43:05 PM

All those subjects like the "kick" and others already were discussed on this forum in the past. If we only have a kind of automatic index, probably here, on this forum are answers for all our questions. There were several threads with TPU and similar topics seven years ago. Here are some:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1761.msg19782#msg19782

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1872.msg21503#msg21503

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on December 04, 2012, 09:57:34 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 04, 2012, 08:40:28 PM

Well, buddy i think i know it,

THE FREE ENERGY COMES FROM THE REACTION OF THE COIL FROM THE EXTRA COIL ;) 8)

AND in terms of the sun,

Its the reaction of the EXTRA electron from the silicon by means of heat. ;)

and in term of Magnet,

Its the changing magnetic field that gives energy to the electron to move or flow. ;)

ALL IN ALL: IT IS THE UNBALANCE DESIGN OF EVERYTHING THAT MAKES EVERYTHING FLOW AND SEEK FOR BALANCE. ;) 8)

AND THAT IS THE TRUTH. :o

BYE AND GOOD DAY EVERYONE.

GOD BLESS

TAKE A LOT OF CARE CARE!!! ;D

TEETSLA ;D WHAT A CO- ACCIDENTS ;D ;D ;D LOL

Yes, you tell the truth, but that's a "HOW", not a "WHY". actually, you can not use modern physics language to explain what you "see" inside the energy. I like your balance-unbalance-balance thought. My opinion is that at least, if you don't know aether theory(not old aether), you can not well understand space, so can not totally understand electrons, can not know what ENERGY REALLY is.
But it doesn't matter, all of us, funs, you can make free energy by coils kick coils way like Tito'v told you, to heat your home in this cold winter.

by the way, Tito, I like your device, it is so easy to make and Tune, but TPU is most beautiful, It like a harmonic music song.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 05, 2012, 02:07:34 AM

have a look, its good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DovunOxlY1k

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: SeaMonkey on December 05, 2012, 06:34:51 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on December 04, 2012, 07:19:35 PM
...

Did not Tesla also use a magnetically quenched spark gap (with disruptive discharge) for harnessing radiant energy?
...

During Tesla's time there weren't many ways to
switch electrical current efficiently; especially
high voltage/high current. The spark gap and
disruptive discharge was the only practical way
for most experimenters.

The problem with the spark gap is that it is very
difficult to control the time duration of the
disruptive discharge once the gap ionizes and
without some sort of control the discharge tends
to be too long to be efficient for driving RF circuits.
The Pulse Width of the discharge isn't sufficiently
short so much power is wasted.

It was discovered that a magnetic field would "quench"
the discharge agross the gap almost as soon as the
conductive ionized path developed. This resulted in a
very short discharge time duration which was far more
efficient in driving RF circuits - not nearly as much wasted
power.

Nowadays we are very fortunate to have a number of
electronic devices which are able to provide a controlled
disruptive discharge with very easily adjusted Pulse Width
in order to attain maximum efficiency.

If Tesla were alive today he'd not be using the spark gap
for his work. Back in his day he had no other choice...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazyoldfart on December 05, 2012, 06:35:33 PM

Well, if electrons are moving @ nearly a trillion feet per second. And we have musical chairs, their are one trillion applicants for 60 chairs. ( all off the shelf items are 60 hertz)don't we have a surplus that is not being utilized?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 06, 2012, 03:30:30 AM

Quote from: SeaMonkey on December 05, 2012, 06:34:51 PM

During Tesla's time there weren't many ways to
switch electrical current efficiently; especially
high voltage/high current. The spark gap and
disruptive discharge was the only practical way
for most experimenters.

The problem with the spark gap is that it is very
difficult to control the time duration of the
disruptive discharge once the gap ionizes and
without some sort of control the discharge tends
to be too long to be efficient for driving RF circuits.
The Pulse Width of the discharge isn't sufficiently
short so much power is wasted.

It was discovered that a magnetic field would "quench"
the discharge agross the gap almost as soon as the
conductive ionized path developed. This resulted in a
very short discharge time duration which was far more
efficient in driving RF circuits - not nearly as much wasted
power.

Nowadays we are very fortunate to have a number of
electronic devices which are able to provide a controlled
disruptive discharge with very easily adjusted Pulse Width
in order to attain maximum efficiency.

If Tesla were alive today he'd not be using the spark gap
for his work. Back in his day he had no other choice...

Are you sure ???? I can't find any electronic part able to switch high current at high voltage. For useful purpose I would like to switch 1000V at 10A and no transistor can do it. Sure at 400V it can be made but it is not considered high voltage. Isn't that the reason why Ismael Aviso asked to produce special kind of IGBT for his device ? The only way is to use vacuum tubes but such high power tubes are rare and restricted to millitary usage....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: kEhYo77 on December 06, 2012, 06:26:05 AM

@ Forest.

There is plenty of HV IGBT transistors rated 1200V 30A. It is not a problem here.
You can also link them in series to increase the maximum voltage handling to be able to switch 6000V for instance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: energia9 on December 06, 2012, 08:50:38 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 06, 2012, 11:15:45 AM

Quote from: kEhYo77 on December 06, 2012, 06:26:05 AM
@ Forest.

There is plenty of HV IGBT transistors rated 1200V 30A. It is not a problem here.
You can also link them in series to increase the maximum voltage handling to be able to switch 6000V for instance.

Example ? Do they have miliohms Rds resistance in ON state ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 06, 2012, 07:20:36 PM

Quote from: kEhYo77 on December 06, 2012, 06:26:05 AM
@ Forest.

There is plenty of HV IGBT transistors rated 1200V 30A. It is not a problem here.
You can also link them in series to increase the maximum voltage handling to be able to switch 6000V for instance.

hmmmm, not a bad idea ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 06, 2012, 07:28:22 PM

Quote from: forest on December 06, 2012, 11:15:45 AM
Example ? Do they have miliohms Rds resistance in ON state ?

Are you applying the say 1kv to a few turn, small inductance coil? Or a large inductance coil, many turns?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on December 07, 2012, 06:32:44 AM

Quote from: forest on December 06, 2012, 11:15:45 AM
Example ? Do they have miliohms Rds resistance in ON state ?

Hej forest,

Have a look at this link (and also consider Magluvin question above when you still search for milliOhm switches)

http://www.behlke.de/separations/separation_c4.htm

this is their product line: http://www.behlke.de/productlines.htm

in USA they are here: http://www.hvswitch.com/index.html

Be prepared for the prices as well...

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 07, 2012, 11:58:47 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 06, 2012, 07:28:22 PM
Are you applying the say 1kv to a few turn, small inductance coil? Or a large inductance coil, many turns?

Mags

I would like Mags, I would like but in fact all I can do is to push 100V in a few turns small inductance coil.... lots of amps...I will comment after testing this baby.....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on December 07, 2012, 05:51:06 PM

Are you guys aware of this work?:
http://www.purco.qc.ca/ftp/Steven%20Mark/mannix/solid_state_pulsed_power.pdf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 07, 2012, 06:42:15 PM

Quote from: forest on December 07, 2012, 11:58:47 AM
I would like Mags, I would like but in fact all I can do is to push 100V in a few turns small inductance coil.... lots of amps...I will comment after testing this baby.....

Sounds like a Tesla coil primary.

I wonder if we should try the other way around. Pulse HV into a large inductance. The reason I say this is it seems many have done it the way you are doing(me too) and nothing from anyone so far.
So maybe doing the opposite, not really much out there on that, is the way to go.

Grumpy over at OUR said something to this effect, but he said min 2kv, and many turns on the coil. If I remember correctly, he said there are some strange effects by doing this.

Just chiming in. Im beat. Worked all day, no lunch, and Im just gunna chill. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 07, 2012, 08:30:47 PM

ok!, sorry i have to say this. :)

High voltage is not really the way ok, you are putting your self in danger. don't do that. There is other way.

i say this because i care to all of you ok. :)

Nikola Tesla conditioned everyone into a very high voltage to overlooked the real thing.

do you think if that is the way, the reason why they show all his patents of very high voltage producing? think. HMMMMMMM! >:(

YOU SHOULD THINK DIFFERENT EVERYONE. ;)

BE CLEVER AND BE WISE. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 07, 2012, 08:38:17 PM

WELL, i'm not saying i'm clever and wise but i think, i think differently. :)

by not joining everyone in the trend flow of the water in this world.

hope you understand me. ;)

cause i don't quite understand what i'm saying. ;D lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: SeaMonkey on December 07, 2012, 09:16:52 PM

Qwert,

Thanks for the link to the
Solid State Pulsed Power (http://www.purco.qc.ca/ftp/Steven%20Mark/mannix/solid_state_pulsed_power.pdf)
document. It is a good
resource.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 07, 2012, 09:18:21 PM

Thanks Teets.
I'm going to stay with low voltage coils, caps and diodes as planned. Your transistor suggestion is interesting. I can see how you could modulate the pulses a little easier, providing you can harness useable voltage from the coils. I'll play around with some configs for awhile.

Congratulations on the new addition to the family!
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 07, 2012, 09:49:00 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 07, 2012, 08:30:47 PM
ok!, sorry i have to say this. :)

High voltage is not really the way ok, you are putting your self in danger. don't do that. There is other way.

i say this because i care to all of you ok. :)

Nikola Tesla conditioned everyone into a very high voltage to overlooked the real thing.

do you think if that is the way, the reason why they show all his patents of very high voltage producing? think. HMMMMMMM! >:(

YOU SHOULD THINK DIFFERENT EVERYONE. ;)

BE CLEVER AND BE WISE. ;)

Hey Teets

I know you are 'trying'to help. But when you say to think differently, be clever and be wise, that alone is a 'tall' order for most, especially when most feel that they have tried and tried but to no avail.

To think differently, for each who reads what you said, each will most likely have their own path of difference. And maybe none gets it. History shows that most if any wont.

To be wise, well, some have it and some just dont. Not saying that I am, nor am I saying that anyone here isnt. And all of the ones that might be, they are not laying claims. Just you so far. :-*

There are many clever people here. Some even think very much alike in many ways. But still no gogo. No disco disco. Ya know? ;D

Dont get me wrong here. But a lot of people here awaiting your posts, I believe are under the assumption for a long time now that high voltage and high freq are ingredients. So why no HV now? I feel now we are back at the beginning of this thread. Starting over from scratch, and to just forget all the rest? ???

Forgive me if it sounds bad. Im just really tired tonight and I cant even phathom the thought of this at the moment.

I have read this thread 'every day' since I started this forum. Every day. Every day that someone posts or if I felt the need to post and some days to reread and review. Ugg. Im slowly losing it. Losing faith in it all.
But not in God. Because I 'know' he exists. ;)

Lol get ready for the Tacit admission man to post soon for that last line. ::)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 07, 2012, 10:39:24 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 07, 2012, 09:49:00 PM
Hey Teets

I know you are 'trying'to help. But when you say to think differently, be clever and be wise, that alone is a 'tall' order for most, especially when most feel that they have tried and tried but to no avail.

To think differently, for each who reads what you said, each will most likely have their own path of difference. And maybe none gets it. History shows that most if any wont.

To be wise, well, some have it and some just dont. Not saying that I am, nor am I saying that anyone here isnt. And all of the ones that might be, they are not laying claims. Just you so far. :-*

There are many clever people here. Some even think very much alike in many ways. But still no gogo. No disco disco. Ya know? ;D

Dont get me wrong here. But a lot of people here awaiting your posts, I believe are under the assumption for a long time now that high voltage and high freq are ingredients. So why no HV now? I feel now we are back at the beginning of this thread. Starting over from scratch, and to just forget all the rest? ???

Forgive me if it sounds bad. Im just really tired tonight and I cant even phathom the thought of this at the moment.

I have read this thread 'every day' since I started this forum. Every day. Every day that someone posts or if I felt the need to post and some days to reread and review. Ugg. Im slowly losing it. Losing faith in it all.
But not in God. Because I 'know' he exists. ;)

Lol get ready for the Tacit admission man to post soon for that last line. ::)

Mags

ohh yes, i'm sorry everyone. :(
but i'm telling the truth now, that we don't really need the very high voltage to get free energy.
.025 uf only to kill someone using highvoltage, so its so very dangerous.
i'm just putting myself in the flow of the trend they are doing. sorry for that. :(

in the snowball of tesla, we can actually make a rules that the snowball can only reach at the point we want.
and that is very controllable.

Well, i'm not lying when i say i know the secret. :)

Most or all of the brilliant people in free energy industry pushes us all in high voltage that is extremely dangerous and that is a big lie.
well, there are some designs or patents of tesla that produces highvoltage and high freq. but they are not really the way to free energy, believe me :)

if i will tell the secret, i think no more fun and no more study and research. :)
but to everyone, don't loose hope, there is really a very simple circuit solution to free energy ok.

We already saw different circuits, and we already saw the secret already, we are not just aware. :)

anyway, the important thing is we are in God side. :)

Note: Free energy is not the solution in our problem in this earth, it is JESUS.

TAKE CARE GOD BLESS EVERYONE. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on December 08, 2012, 02:37:41 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 07, 2012, 10:39:24 PM
Note: Free energy is not the solution in our problem in this earth, it is JESUS.

We're not only wrong about high voltage. We are in wrong forum. Let's jump into the EWTN.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on December 08, 2012, 04:33:57 AM

Mags

I know your feeling, sometimes Tito make people confused ,enven angry. Tito'way is good, but you also can use others. Ok, let's share some idear: 1) we know make Kicks is a way to get free energy. 2) to get output power we have to pay input power. a same circuit can get op<1 or op>1 results in different conditions. 3) to get op>1, we usally use high voltage or high current or all high. because, a circuit wasted energy not chang much, but we can get much much more strong Kicks in one time. 4) we can use low voltage in a series stage = HV, we also can use low current in parallel mold to get HC. it is a easy way to make you device 5)feed some output energy back to source is ok , but not necessary. we only care about OP>1, 6)if in one cycle OP>1, High F is necessary to get big output power.........

good luck every one

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 08, 2012, 08:17:41 AM

I think we should search free energy using toys parts "they" allowed us to use. So electronics and not much voltage , not much initial power. Mostly toys but I would be happy with just 2-3 kW of free output and I'm pretty sure I can do it, maybe sooner maybe later....

Tito, is this the free energy ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRv4POv5jh4

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on December 08, 2012, 09:24:45 AM

If Tito's circuit is low voltage/power, it looks like it's kind of a joule thief. How many diodes can you lit, Tito?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on December 08, 2012, 10:19:11 AM

@Tito

You said you already know the secret of tesla or free energy then why still you dont have working device? If your really not lying show some videos or proof of overunity.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 08, 2012, 01:16:47 PM

Back in the very early years
When all were much less wise...
This thread was but a fledgling buzz
Of Tito's OU cries...

Oh boy, I feel a poem coming on. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(

There then arose intense discussion
On what needed to transpire
To use these tiny micro bursts
And get them bursting higher.

There was talk of stepping up
Small voltages unuseable.
Some thought that it was possible;
For some it was refuseable.

So once again we come around
To upward-stepping questions.
Some pursue the step-up tale as-is.
While others make suggestions.

Far be from me, a humble squire
Amid such valiant knights
To condemn those who seek otherwise
Than I in OU fights.

For the cat is skinn'd in many ways
Of this we can be sure.
And each in destined times and days
Hopes for the OU cure.

Fight on and seek what makes us free!
Each one in terms best-suited.
For whene'r the OU grail is found
All our horns are tooted!!!
(Teeted?) ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 09, 2012, 11:07:55 PM

ohh! :o

Its wrong in my explanation, The high voltage i am referring is 50kv up, and 1kv-3kv is ok for me.

@neo-x
i'm planning for that, i'm just making my move perfectly. ;) [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 09, 2012, 11:12:41 PM

Quote from: Qwert on December 08, 2012, 09:24:45 AM
If Tito's circuit is low voltage/power, it looks like it's kind of a joule thief. How many diodes can you lit, Tito?

i'm talking about real power here ok. not just joule thief.

@all

Let say we have an isolated transformer. we only need 220v to make secondary produce 220v and that is completely separated from the primary ok?

very high voltage is very good in efficient transmission of power ok?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on December 10, 2012, 01:56:45 AM

@Tito

If you dont act now, you grow old doing nothing. Time is gold you know so if you have an idea in your mind you should better do it now or else you might regret it in the end.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 10, 2012, 03:52:30 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on December 10, 2012, 01:56:45 AM
@Tito

If you dont act now, you grow old doing nothing. Time is gold you know so if you have an idea in your mind you should better do it now or else you might regret it in the end.

Sige pare, ano bang maganda o mabuting gawin kung alam mo ang sikreto, yung hindi magiging delikado ang buhay mo at ang buo mong familya?

syempre gusto kong maka gawa ng pera dito sa nadiskubre ko, nagiging delikado, lalu na dito sa lugar namin e private na yung may ari ng elektricidad, pag may nagiging problema sila e beinte mil lang ang katapat mo at maglalaho ka nang parang bula. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on December 10, 2012, 04:04:53 AM

Bob
Very good poem..........

Teetsla Very bad no sprekenzy engleassssh.[manners]

Congrats on your new child ,may she come into a much better world [hhmm I said she? oh well.....]
and live a long and happy life...........

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 10, 2012, 04:18:02 AM

Quote from: forest on December 08, 2012, 08:17:41 AM
I think we should search free energy using toys parts "they" allowed us to use. So electronics and not much voltage , not much initial power. Mostly toys but I would be happy with just 2-3 kW of free output and I'm pretty sure I can do it, maybe sooner maybe later....

Tito, is this the free energy ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRv4POv5jh4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRv4POv5jh4)

That is just the effect of vibration of your first move.

Free energy is gaining steps or distance in a very close time.
and that means, in those close time there are accumulation and collections.

always remember the snowball ok.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 10, 2012, 05:16:09 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 10, 2012, 04:18:02 AM

That is just the effect of vibration of your first move.

Free energy is gaining steps or distance in a very close time.
and that means, in those close time there are accumulation and collections.

always remember the snowball ok.

teets... ::) snowballs DON'T amplify energy... nor are they 'overunity'. and a snowball rolling down a hill doesn't amplify energy nor is it 'overunity'... ::) even 'mr. hand' throwing a snowball at you doesn't amplify energy nor is it 'overunity'.

did you even make it past the first grade in school?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on December 10, 2012, 06:29:46 AM

@Tito

Ang kaso d ko nga alam sikreto eh hehe.. Sabi mo may kulang pa dun sa mga sinabi ko. Pero kung gus2 mo sabihin mo nalang sakin ang sikreto para ako nalang ang gumawa tapos kung magtagumpay man edi gagawa ako ng marami tapos ibi2gay ko sau ng libre ang isa. Anu sapalagay mo magandang idea un diba? :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pix on December 10, 2012, 08:26:24 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on December 10, 2012, 05:16:09 AM
teets... ::) snowballs DON'T amplify energy... nor are they 'overunity'. and a snowball rolling down a hill doesn't amplify energy nor is it 'overunity'... ::) even 'mr. hand' throwing a snowball at you doesn't amplify energy nor is it 'overunity'.

did you even make it past the first grade in school?

????
If you take into account, that a snow ball rolling down the hill is growing in mass and diameter- it's kinetic energy grows for sure.
Regards,
Pix

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 10, 2012, 08:28:30 AM

Wilby

Don't throw misconceptions, please. Snowabll effect is OU in pure sense. Check the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclined_plane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclined_plane)

Now take a snowball attracting the snow during the roll down the hill......force is F = Gsin(alfa) where G = m*g , m = mass

Now is during the roll mass is changed then force is ENLARGED by some factor related to mass change and friction rise but I bet it is still more then initial force.
Proof : Tesla "My inventions"

Don't you think teachers should teach us REAL EXAMPLES instead of foolish theoretical, restricted knowledge ?

Tito, please stop talking in Philipinesse . What I wanted to tell you is that I'm working on second version of attracting ambient background , using pure resonance, not snowball effect.
My version is : kick and let vibrate freely, then collect vibrations of one or many receivers around. Like many tuning forks tuned to one frequency when one is radiating sound energy and all other are not loading the originator....

Friends , I want you all to think about the transformer schema :
Let's imagine hyphotetical 1:1 transformer which do not fail into the lenz law restrictions. One in which the energy in secondary is exact copy of energy in primary.

Here we see there is still a problem. We put 100W into primary and get 100W on secondary, but there is not much we gain because it is description of normal transformer, we only changed the thinking path from the energy transfer from primary to secondary, we imagined a copy of energy arised on secondary while primary is still pumped with 100W. Adding resistance looses into heat or RF we have now nothing more but still our inefficient transformer with just new theory of operation.....

Think about it.... there is more then one issue to resolve to complete task. Here we need not only lenz free system but also resonant circuit on at least primary side, and the way of controlling it. I see now 3 ways of doing the control , one of them is snowball effect.
Second is our normal impedance matching of power source to parallel resonance, third is the free oscillation.

But what still surprise me is that an ordinary tuning fork is showing all the time the magic we completly ignore... what is the source of vibrations ?

Do you know of any experiments using membrane or tuning fork or bells in vacuum and in outer space outside Earth magnetic/gravity fields ????? Can tuning fork vibrate in vacuum ?
I know that the reason for it is shape , elasticity and density of material but there is also ENERGY SOURCE giving kicks to allow long time run and a resonating chamber is also a clue suggesting that maybe the air has energy (heat ?) transferend to tuning fork...

So many marvels around we ignore....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pix on December 10, 2012, 08:39:00 AM

@forest
quote:Friends , I want you all to think about the transformer schema :
Let's imagine hyphotetical 1:1 transformer which do not fail into the lenz law restrictions
I would think, that every transformer or coil, pulsed via spark gap or other means, do not fail into Lenz law.
If you discharge capacitor, via spark gap to the primary of transformer ( sharp pulse), do you think that voltage and current flow, induced in secondary will have any efect on the primary?It is nonlinear process.
@Neo-X
Please, stop using your native language.It is an international forum.Use english.
Regards,
Pix

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on December 10, 2012, 11:00:45 AM

@pix

Okey its because tito start to speak tagalog.. Anyway, ill tell you one of the secret in transformer. Do you not wonder why some transformer have an airgap while others non? The reason is transformer without airgap is much more efficient in low frequency and in non resonance mode while transformer with gap is much more efficient in high frequency and in resonance mode. Why? Because transformer without gap is have LESS BEMF and have LESS magnetizing current (a current in primary when the secondary has no load) while a transformer with airgap has MORE BEMF but has a HIGH magnitizing current. So there is a trade off. Increasing airgap increases the BEMF but have a downside of increasing the magnetizing current. Thats why you will notice that a standard 220v transformer have no airgap while the flourescent ballast and flyback transformer have airgap. So in high frequency transformer its important to use a transformer with airgap to increase the bemf. Many experimenter in joule thief thread didn't consider that which is very important in attaining ou.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 10, 2012, 01:44:26 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on December 10, 2012, 11:00:45 AM
@pix

Okey its because tito start to speak tagalog.. Anyway, ill tell you one of the secret in transformer. Do you not wonder why some transformer have an airgap while others non? The reason is transformer without airgap is much more efficient in low frequency and in non resonance mode while transformer with gap is much more efficient in high frequency and in resonance mode. Why? Because transformer without gap is have LESS BEMF and have LESS magnetizing current (a current in primary when the secondary has no load) while a transformer with airgap has MORE BEMF but has a HIGH magnitizing current. So there is a trade off. Increasing airgap increases the BEMF but have a downside of increasing the magnetizing current. Thats why you will notice that a standard 220v transformer have no airgap while the flourescent ballast and flyback transformer have airgap. So in high frequency transformer its important to use a transformer with airgap to increase the bemf. Many experimenter in joule thief thread didn't consider that which is very important in attaining ou.

Thank you very much. I wonder how is that related to inductance of such transformers. I suspect that transforemr with gap has lower inductance, right ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on December 10, 2012, 03:54:40 PM

Thank you very much. I
wonder how is that related to
inductance of such
transformers. I suspect that
transforemr with gap has
lower inductance, right ?

--End of Quote--

Yeah your right. A transformer with airgap has lower inductance. But the most important is to increase the bemf than reducing the magnetizing current because the bemf is what cause overunity in resonance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on December 10, 2012, 05:32:02 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on December 10, 2012, 11:00:45 AM

Anyway, ill tell you one of the secret in transformer. Do you not wonder why some transformer have an airgap while others non? The reason is transformer without airgap is much more efficient in low frequency and in non resonance mode while transformer with gap is much more efficient in high frequency and in resonance mode. Why? Because transformer without gap have LESS BEMF and have LESS magnetizing current (a current in primary when the secondary has no load) while a transformer with airgap has MORE BEMF but has a HIGH magnitizing current. So there is a trade off. Increasing airgap increases the BEMF but have a downside of increasing the magnetizing current. Thats why you will notice that a standard 220v transformer have no airgap while the flourescent ballast and flyback transformer have airgap. So in high frequency transformer its important to use a transformer with airgap to increase the bemf. Many experimenter in joule thief thread didn't consider that which is very important in attaining ou.

Hi Neo-X,

I would like to tell you that I cannot fully agree with your above secrets. The bottom line is whether a transformer primary current includes DC component besides the AC or not. IF there is a DC component in the input current, it surely magnetically biases the core to one direction on its B/H curve towards a possible saturation area, and to prevent or reduce this, an air gap is introduced, this increases magnetic reluctance in the core. Such is the case for a flyback or a ballast transformer (or for choke coils in power supplies on the secondary side) I agree and in case of a mains transformer normally there is no DC component in the primary current (unless you use it as a pulsed transformer from a DC source, :) ) so there is no need for airgap.

It is ok that there is less BEMF when the magnetizing current is smaller but the connection to the air gap comes from the possible selfinductance differences between a closed and a gapped core, (assuming similar Amperturns for the two cases). Maybe I misunderstand your above reasonings on this? Once you have a given (primary) coil, with or without airgap, you can control the magnetizing current by choosing the input AC amplitude as you wish (besides you use taps on the coil or fine-adjust airgap if there is any). Normally cores with airgap gives much less selfinductance (as you wrote later below) hence the input drive shifts inherently towards the higher frequencies to get a certain needed inductive reactance for a job. But for a high frequency transformer, the airgap is to be used to prevent (or delay) core saturation IF it is unwanted (and normally it is unwanted) and the BEMF can be controlled by the input voltage amplitude first, together with choosing the frequency or for a low value input voltage case you can make the taps on the main coil as means of optimization as I wrote above.

Quote from: Neo-X on December 10, 2012, 03:54:40 PM
...
Yeah your right. A transformer with airgap has lower inductance. But the most important is to increase the bemf than reducing the magnetizing current because the bemf is what cause overunity in resonance.

I beg you pardon but bemf is created from the input current, the energy stored in the (primary) coil (when you switch the current off) is almost the same as the input energy (minus the coil and core losses) and to get high bemf spikes at a given input current you have to choose a fast turn-off device for an also given (primary) coil inductance. TO Hope for any extra output beyond the input you need to achieve somehow other 'miracles' in the core (if I knew exactly what, I would tell you). It is possible that Gadget achieved that 'miracle' in his core when he found the input voltage increasing abnormally and it is rather difficult to repeat (not knowing what causes the extra output).

Sorry for 'chiming' in, if I misunderstand some of your thoughts than sorry.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 10, 2012, 07:06:40 PM

Quote from: pix on December 10, 2012, 08:26:24 AM
????
If you take into account, that a snow ball rolling down the hill is growing in mass and diameter- it's kinetic energy grows for sure.
Regards,
Pix

don't be coy or stupid... ask yourself why does a snowball rolling down a hill grow in mass and diameter? it's not a mystery OR a secret... nor is it OU. ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 10, 2012, 07:07:51 PM

Quote from: forest on December 10, 2012, 08:28:30 AM
Wilby

Don't throw misconceptions, please. Snowabll effect is OU in pure sense. Check the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclined_plane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclined_plane)

Now take a snowball attracting the snow during the roll down the hill......force is F = Gsin(alfa) where G = m*g , m = mass

Now is during the roll mass is changed then force is ENLARGED by some factor related to mass change and friction rise but I bet it is still more then initial force.
Proof : Tesla "My inventions"

Don't you think teachers should teach us REAL EXAMPLES instead of foolish theoretical, restricted knowledge ?

i'm going to tell you the same thing forest... ::) don't be coy or stupid. ask yourself why does a snowball rolling down a hill grow in mass and diameter? it's not a mystery OR a secret... nor is it OU.

i think you should have payed attention to what you were taught instead of dreaming up your own asinine hypothesis...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 10, 2012, 07:22:45 PM

so just to be clear here pix and forest...

if i were to dump a bunch of glue all over you and toss you down a mountain and you gathered more mass while rolling downhill... that would make you OU?

please answer this question with a simple yes or no...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on December 10, 2012, 07:25:51 PM

@gyulasan

I think we dont understand each other. My post is not related to PIX question. I just only give to him a info that might he dont know. Your comment is also far from my post and u misunderstand pix question. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on December 10, 2012, 08:23:55 PM

all buddies here

Tito has told all secrets which he like to tell. he repeat again and again, and you guess again and again. it's so funny. ;D
I think we'v gotten enough and clear infomation for his device. if you can not understand it , I suggeste you go back to learn Tesa's device, if you totally understand where the free energy come from for All Tesla's Devices. It's easy to get what Tito said.
a shortcut here:a Joule thief circuit can help you. I can say no more.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 10, 2012, 09:51:55 PM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on December 10, 2012, 05:16:09 AM
teets... ::) snowballs DON'T amplify energy... nor are they 'overunity'. and a snowball rolling down a hill doesn't amplify energy nor is it 'overunity'... ::) even 'mr. hand' throwing a snowball at you doesn't amplify energy nor is it 'overunity'.

did you even make it past the first grade in school?

hmmmmmmmmmmm. i feel some obvious approach from you. i can feel it in my skin the energy that you want me to do. ;D lol hahhahahhahahah

You want me to say something huh? ;D

and in that case i won't talk!!! . :-X hahahahhahahahah lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Your asinine tacit admission is Thank you! >:( lol hahahahhahahahahhahhahahhahhahahahhah ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

SO WHAT DA YU TINK OF ME, THINKING OF YAU?!!! LOL ;D

You know what?!!! You try it in your balls and they'll become snow. lol hhahahahahhahahahhahahhahhahaahhahahha ;D ;D ;D

i think your balls are mysterious atheist! lol hahahahahahahahahhha ;D ;D ;D

i think your balls are the best spark gap, cause there is a smell effect that ionized the air. lol hahahahahahahhahahahh ;D ;D ;D

now i see, it is really your balls not the ion, moray is wrong! gush what a discovery! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pix on December 10, 2012, 10:43:32 PM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on December 10, 2012, 07:06:40 PM
don't be coy or stupid... ask yourself why does a snowball rolling down a hill grow in mass and diameter? it's not a mystery OR a secret... nor is it OU. ::)

@Wilby
So please be precise next time.I now WHY a snowball is growing bigger.Your question was- is it OU.
I don't know, what do you mean OU? More energy out than in?You have always take into consideration from where energy is coming into the system BETWEEN in and out. A snowball definately GAINS energy on the roll down.Kinetic and potential energy are conserved, but not MOMENTUM.
I don't have a time for "speech" disputes. Consider your air conditioning unit, or a heat pump. For 1kW electrical energy it gives 2-4kW of heat.IS it OU? No- unless you consider from where is this extra energy coming.It is just an efficient device to utilise energy from ambient air.
For your educational puropses.
http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/645956/files/0310010.pdf (http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/645956/files/0310010.pdf)
http://ascension-physics.spruz.com/pt/The-Snowball-Effect.5-10-2012/blog.htm (http://ascension-physics.spruz.com/pt/The-Snowball-Effect.5-10-2012/blog.htm)
Regards,
Pix

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 11, 2012, 01:02:35 AM

Quote from: pix on December 10, 2012, 10:43:32 PM
@Wilby
So please be precise next time.I now WHY a snowball is growing bigger.Your question was- is it OU.
I don't know, what do you mean OU? More energy out than in?You have always take into consideration from where energy is coming into the system BETWEEN in and out. A snowball definately GAINS energy on the roll down.Kinetic and potential energy are conserved, but not MOMENTUM.
I don't have a time for "speech" disputes. Consider your air conditioning unit, or a heat pump. For 1kW electrical energy it gives 2-4kW of heat.IS it OU? No- unless you consider from where is this extra energy coming.It is just an efficient device to utilise energy from ambient air.
For your educational puropses.
http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/645956/files/0310010.pdf (http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/645956/files/0310010.pdf)
http://ascension-physics.spruz.com/pt/The-Snowball-Effect.5-10-2012/blog.htm (http://ascension-physics.spruz.com/pt/The-Snowball-Effect.5-10-2012/blog.htm)
Regards,
Pix

pix... please don't lie about what i have said. my question was not "is it OU..." in point of fact i didn't ask any questions. i told you to ask yourself "why does a snowball rolling down a hill grow in mass and diameter..."

and i don't have time for people being coy or stupid or lying or misrepresenting what i have said... ::)

furthermore, you COMPLETELY AVOIDED the question i DID ask of you... i'll repeat it... ::)
if i were to dump a bunch of glue all over you and toss you down a mountain and you gathered more mass while rolling downhill... that would make you OU?

please answer this question with a simple yes or no... OR don't bother to respond.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on December 11, 2012, 01:36:44 AM

Not quite in subject, but interesting idea:

http://www.nuenergy.org/pdf/GB763062.pdf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pix on December 11, 2012, 02:06:10 AM

@ Wilby,

You ask stupid questions. I am done with you.

Regards,
Pix

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 11, 2012, 03:11:05 AM

Quote from: pix on December 11, 2012, 02:06:10 AM
@ Wilby,

You ask stupid questions. I am done with you.

Regards,
Pix

avoiding the question... ::) how typical. why am i not surprised?

look pixie... accretion isn't OU... nor is it anything other than ACCRETION... ::) and that is ALL THAT IS HAPPENING WHEN A SNOWBALL ROLLS DOWN AN INCLINE COVERED WITH SNOW. AND THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENS WHEN A CHILD ROLLS A SNOWBALL AROUND HIS FLAT YARD TO MAKE A SNOWMAN... ACCRETION. if you think otherwise, you're an idiot... like tito.

for YOUR education: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accretion

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 11, 2012, 03:28:44 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on December 11, 2012, 03:11:05 AM
avoiding the question... ::) how typical. why am i not surprised?

look pixie... accretion isn't OU... nor is it anything other than ACCRETION... ::) and that is ALL THAT IS HAPPENING WHEN A SNOWBALL ROLLS DOWN AN INCLINE COVERED WITH SNOW. AND THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENS WHEN A CHILD ROLLS A SNOWBALL AROUND HIS FLAT YARD TO MAKE A SNOWMAN... ACCRETION. if you think otherwise, you're an idiot... like tito.

for YOUR education: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accretion (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accretion)

Bwwwwaaaaaah hahahahahhahahahahaha.

so your serious about your question ;D :-\ ???

OK, HERE: TESLA IS JUST MAKING A COMPARISON WITH THE NATURE ABOUT IF YOU CAN MAKE A CIRCUIT SAME AS THE ROLLING SNOWBALL THEN THATS IT!

DID YOU GOT IT MUSTARD, I'LL COOK YOU >:(

SIMPLE ARITHMETIC YOU CANNOT JETMATIC ;D

YOU KNOW WHAT?: AN IMBALANCE BALLS IS A GOOD SIGN OF FREE ENERGY ;D ;D ;D
CAUSE THEY ALWAYS SEEK FOR BALANCE ;D

The asinine for the tacit pancit is the admission for the thank you!!! got that? >:( ;D lol

JOKE !!!! >:(

LUV YOU!!!! >:( ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 11, 2012, 04:04:27 AM

tito mo aswang...

bi zui... qing wa cao de liu mang!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 11, 2012, 04:15:45 AM

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on December 11, 2012, 04:04:27 AM
tito mo aswang...

bi zui... qing wa cao de liu mang!

oooohh, your post touch my heart like a two unbalance balls dribling on top of the hill. hahahahhahhahah lol ;D [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 11, 2012, 05:31:23 AM

Ha ha ha ha ha Wilby you are so funny ;D ;D ;D

Do you really believe you can convince us to become distracted by your stupid explanation ?

Then ask NASA why they are concerned if Apophis asteroid would gain momentum through aggregation of mass during his flight near Earth in 2029.... they cannot compute further trajectory and probability of hit in 2039-2040 is undetermined. Yeah, but why they would think about it , Wilby can ascertain that it's only a small snowball >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 11, 2012, 07:21:03 AM

Quote from: forest on December 11, 2012, 05:31:23 AM
Ha ha ha ha ha Wilby you are so funny ;D ;D ;D

Do you really believe you can convince us to become distracted by your stupid explanation ?

Then ask NASA why they are concerned if Apophis asteroid would gain momentum through aggregation of mass during his flight near Earth in 2029.... they cannot compute further trajectory and probability of hit in 2039-2040 is undetermined. Yeah, but why they would think about it , Wilby can ascertain that it's only a small snowball >:( >:( >:(

forest you are so asinine... ::)
by your 'logic' (and i'm using that word VERY loosely here) the earth would also gain momentum because satellite and meteor radar observations suggest that 5-300 metric tons of cosmic dust enter the atmosphere each day and increase the earth's mass by accretion.

by your 'logic' (again, i'm using that word VERY loosely here) certain ROCKS ARE OU because they are formed by the accretion of limestone... and the windshield of my car is OU because of the accretion of ice on it overnight...

don't be coy or stupid... ::) if you think accretion is OU then simply cover yourself with snow and roll your dumb ass off a mountain... the world's energy problems are solved... ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pix on December 11, 2012, 07:36:54 AM

@forest
Please ignore Wilby.Do not engage in fruitless arguments with fool.You will hear nothing, but offensive insults.
Regards,
Pix

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 11, 2012, 07:42:41 AM

Quote from: pix on December 11, 2012, 07:36:54 AM
@forest
Please ignore Wilby.Do not engage in fruitless arguments with fool.You will hear nothing, but offensive insults.
Regards,
Pix

pixie... why don't you just answer my simple question instead of engaging in the logical fallacy known as 'ad hominem'?

i'll repeat it... ::)
if i were to dump a bunch of glue all over you and toss you down a mountain and you gathered more mass while rolling downhill... that would make you OU?

please answer this question with a simple yes or no... OR don't bother to respond.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on December 11, 2012, 08:06:12 AM

@all

Is being inventor are also being childish?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 11, 2012, 09:18:36 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on December 11, 2012, 08:06:12 AM
@all

Is being inventor are also being childish?

Yes. Imagine, ask, question everything, test everything, joy ;D ;D ;D Isn't that childish reaction ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on December 11, 2012, 10:13:23 AM

Yes. Imagine, ask, question
everything, test everything,
joy ;D ;D ;D Isn't that
childish reaction ?

--End of Qoute--

Maybe ur right... Now I get it why there are so many childish in ou forum. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 12, 2012, 03:49:51 AM

No! that is a brilliant question that makes me really think and laugh. lol hahahahhahahhahahhahahahahahaha ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Its like tree planting on top of the roof. :o :o :o

That is wilballs question. Booom!!! :o :o :o

Note: He don't like his name Wilby anymore its WILBALLS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 12, 2012, 06:41:39 PM

Here's a helpful post from Loner at the TPU thread with a voltage multiplication circuit using a 555 timer switch:
http://www.overunity.com/2300/bruces-tpu-theory-and-experiments-ver-1-2/msg343698/#msg343698 (http://www.overunity.com/2300/bruces-tpu-theory-and-experiments-ver-1-2/msg343698/#msg343698)
His drawing below:
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2F2300%2Fbruces-tpu-theory-and-experiments-ver-1-2%2Fdlattach%2Fattach%2F117436%2Fimage%2F%2F&hash=06f4af19ccb0df0f3960e0252b1e23207fe79d39) (http://www.overunity.com/2300/bruces-tpu-theory-and-experiments-ver-1-2/dlattach/attach/117435/image//)
It might be helpful here.
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 18, 2012, 02:29:52 AM

Hi everyone good day!!! ;D

Since no one greet me happy birth day yesterday to me then its fine >:(

but since manny pacquiao also insidentally has the same birth day with me then i'll just greet
him happy birth day pacman ant to you teetsla ;D

and here is my treat to all of you, this technique is what SM deed as a source ;)
http://www.techlib.com/electronics/antennas.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 18, 2012, 02:59:06 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 18, 2012, 02:29:52 AM
Hi everyone good day!!! ;D

Since no one greet me happy birth day yesterday to me then its fine >:(

but since manny pacquiao also insidentally has the same birth day with me then i'll just greet
him happy birth day pacman ant to you teetsla ;D

and here is my treat to all of you, this technique is what SM deed as a source ;)
http://www.techlib.com/electronics/antennas.html (http://www.techlib.com/electronics/antennas.html)

Tito

Happy Birth Day and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year and Happy End of the World he he ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 18, 2012, 08:41:16 PM

Quote from: forest on December 18, 2012, 02:59:06 AM

Tito

Happy Birth Day and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year and Happy End of the World he he ;)

oh thank you buddy. ;D

i think its the mayan calendar will end. ;D

and at the end there is tremendous kick that will generate promise. ;D ;) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 18, 2012, 09:03:00 PM

Hey Teets
Happy Birthday to all of you from all of me! ;D ;D ;D
May you be blessed with many more.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 18, 2012, 09:05:20 PM

Happy Bday Teets. Sorry didnt get to post it sooner.

Im a bit slow.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on December 18, 2012, 11:07:37 PM

"SNIF"

"Snif"

HHMMMmmmmmm

Don't smell like an old boot filled with whiskey in here today.........

HHmmmm maybe W went fishin?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on December 21, 2012, 07:00:47 AM

@tito

Belated happy B-day pa blow out nman jan :D

@all

I have now a theory of how to create a self powering teslacoil. My idea doesnt need spark gap, transistor, diode, antenna, magnet, resistor etc. It consist of only of copper coil, capacitor and battery (for starting purpose only) and instrumentation for accurate construction and tuning. We all know that teslacoil produces more power in the secondary than in primary. So if we feedback a sufficient amount of power from the secondary to primary, it will power itself like don smith did. My idea is similar to don smith device in operation but much simpler than that in construction because it eliminates the need of ac-dc conversion in the output of secondary and dc-ac conversion in the input of the primary. My idea is like a real negative inductor. If my theory was correct, this was the simplest free enery device in the world similar to daniel pomerlou's device. I was so exited to build this but i can't start because i have no electrical instrument needed for accurate construction and monitoring.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 21, 2012, 10:06:51 PM

hi ! everyone good day !!! ;D

much is you very thanks ;D

HOPPY HALIDEY ;D

MASS CHRIST MERRY YEAR NEW HAPPY ;D

IT IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD THAT WE SHOULD WAIT BUT ITS THE "RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH" :)
AND WE SHOULD BE READY. ;)

Actually we are already in the peak of question and answer in this thread, that's why i'm wondering if its not yet solve by everyone ???

i believe someone got it already and congratulating ;D

The tubes of morray are not the secret but the transformer ok ? ;)
The secret of hubbard is also the transformer. ;)
The secret of tesla is also the transformer not the tubes in his pierce arrow. 8)
Tubes are just used for current accumulator. 8)

in every of our barrio there is a transformer ranging up 100kw to supply energy in our home and the one arm of the transformer is connected to a very high voltage, and the other one is connected in the earth ground. so simple isn't it. :)

otits L. Noicaro ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 28, 2012, 10:28:39 PM

I copied this from the locked thread. Titos last post there.

"ok.

Everyone lets study the bridge rectifier, is it not that a bridge rectifier can accept ac that is two different direction electricity combining them into
one?, and with the help of a cap, the point of cut is being filled. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fwink.gif&hash=0d9aacf9391b7fda4adbf7cd091f687bfd283341) did you get what i mean a say? (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fsmiley.gif&hash=f8f8faa5737a843fa5f3e4af986c18073b26d5a4)

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fwink.gif&hash=0d9aacf9391b7fda4adbf7cd091f687bfd283341) (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Frolleyes.gif&hash=b520627f108a45c3271195256284bfbceaa8aa95)

I think that's enough already. many can smell it. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fgrin.gif&hash=48cd3b652a891d74b4b4ef746db528263b551e0c) "

And if we read the post above mine here from Tito.... Secret transformer...

We have seen just about every type and style transformer imaginable. Yet there is at least 1 that we apparently havnt seen. According to Tito. ;)

Today, again while at work, thinking of things other than work... ;) I thought, why would Tito say to look into bridge rectifiers? Well, I looked into it, in my mind. ;D Visions of rectifiers danced in my head.

One of the strangest uses that I recall was the use of only 3 legs in a supposed self running pulse motor. I think it was that crazy guy that hasnt been around for a long while now. IST? Cant remember. He talked all silly like his vids were made after a long bong session. ;)

I never tried that circuit. maybe there is something to it.

Ok, so we have a bridge rectifier. All day I couldnt see a way around using them as they were intended.
Then I remembered, the 'transformer', and thought about what could be different.

So I thought about the AV plug for some odd reason. It should be considered a full wave rectifier also, when charging a cap from a 1 legged secondary.

So what if we have 2 secondaries? We take 1 leg of 1 secondary and an opposing leg of the other secondary. We connect these to the AC input of the bridge rectifier, leaving the unconnected legs of the 2 secondary windings, well, unconnected. Insulate them for now.

I have a few vids on the av plugs on YT. If we attach just say an ant or a length of wire , or even ground it, to the open end of my 1 legged secondary, the cap charges faster.

Open ended, the circuit that drives the hv transformer(in the vids) used about 45ma idle and not much more when drawing from it through the AV plug to charge the cap, 1 legged from the secondary.

But, there is also a faster charge to the cap through the AV plug if we bring a ground wire, ant or just some wire(ant too), close to the capacitor being charged.

If we have 2 open ended secondaries, the 1 leg of the first secondary pumping out while the other is pulling in, we will be charging both sides of the cap at the same time, unlike the AV plug, pumping and pulling one side of the cap at a time.

We will also gain the faster charge, most likely much better than an AV plug with an ant near the cap, because just the fact that both sides of the cap are active, our ant near the cap is built in. ;)

Just posting the idea. Gunna see what I got to make a 2 secondary transformer and give it a go. Oh, one more thing, while thinking about the 2 secondaries. They will be capacitively coupled. Capacitively? ;) Well, you know what I mean. That capacitance is the loop closer of the circuit. So with 2 open ended secondaries, we should get quite a bit more output than ever seen from just an AV plug setup.

Here is a vid showing what a little bit of capacitance with an AV pug circuit can do for getting the cap charged quicker. So the capacitance of the 2 secondaries should definitely improve the output in the idea I propose here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3WmK3qrws

Ats all I got. ;D So far. ;)

Ok, back to my mind. :o ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 28, 2012, 11:08:49 PM

It might give another advantage. It might allow the primary to resonate without killing it. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 29, 2012, 07:49:50 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 28, 2012, 11:08:49 PM
It might give another advantage. It might allow the primary to resonate without killing it. ;]

Mags

Correct answer, this is what I'm looking for also. OU coes from LC resonance and secondary not disturbing it. Strangely enough secondary makes OWN copy of energy, no matter what "experts" are saying :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 30, 2012, 01:28:55 AM

Quote from: forest on December 29, 2012, 07:49:50 AM
Correct answer, this is what I'm looking for also. OU coes from LC resonance and secondary not disturbing it. Strangely enough secondary makes OWN copy of energy, no matter what "experts" are saying :P

Hey Forest

It 'might' allow the primary to resonate. ;)

In my AV plug experiments, the more fiddling with antenna on the open end of the secondary, or just laying my hand on the case of the ignition coil, the output increased but so did the input. With those experiments, the increase in output was apparent but unmeasured. I would have to measure the spark. lol But it does have less affect on the primary than loaded as intended with a neon tube. Those sparks in my video in my last post, with only 1 watt of input , is plenty to ignite a combustion engine. But they use a lot more power in the vehicle to get that spark. So there might be some savings with this.

Been thinking all day as to this transformer design. I dont even know if it will give OU. And Tito wont stop me if im wrong. ::) ;D But Im gunna give it a go anyways.

What im thinking is maybe not to wind the secondaries bifilar, but separate layers, due to possible insulation breakdown between the windings. If I do alternating layers, with an insulation layer between(teflon is highly rated. teflon tape) secondary layers, there will still be a capacitance between windings. Think of the 2 secondaries in series with a cap in between, right in the transformer.

Then I was thinking I should make 3 optional transformers. 1) bifi secondaries, just in case. ;) 2) with layers of secondary, wound in the same directions. And the 3rd with layers of opposing windings. Just to cover all bases.

The difference with the opposing windings will be how the capacitive charge between the layers will be dispersed across the winding layers. There may be an operational difference.

The primary will be just a simple push pull center tapped primary, typically used car audio amp power supplies and small neon transformer drivers.

Finally, my first go will be a straight, open core. Then a closed core if I think it might help later.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 30, 2012, 04:47:34 AM

Hi everyone happy new year ;D

i want these images here for these helps me discover the secret. ;)

The secret is here, the amazing one connection only is the missing part. believe me.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A2KJkey9D9xQv10A2F2jzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBxbGdlMTFzBHNlYwNmcC1hdHRyaWIEc2xrA3ZpZXdtb3Jl?p=free+energy

Always review them and study. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Vito PL on December 30, 2012, 05:14:49 AM

@All
Happy New Year 2013 .
Tito This is so simple that you can laugh?
Vito.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 30, 2012, 11:46:43 AM

Mags, good luck with your research. You're a trooper!

I've gone back to basics, reviewing old posts for clues. I do believe what Tito says, that it's a very simple circuit. Here are some of the clues from past posts I'd like to bring up again:

QuoteTito L. Oracion: Page 2 Reply #16 on: April 01, 2009, 09:59:21 AM
@room
Yes i will sir, i'm not just satisfied with the power i am getting, i am currently workin on it, ...I have success about the Tom bearden's degenerated conductor

I believe Bearden's explanation of "degenerate semiconductor" is vital to understanding what Tito's doing. Here's a good doc that explains what the ds is http://api.ning.com/files/tADqqsjh6wKpg5lZtbxUT1kVI1IhxSokkRmy*bDud30IahCIguG3jA9iROY2sxNiH5N-XR-AuOvqzcF8OFgqx1KHedYWhpOt/TheFinalSecretOfFreeEnergy.pdf (http://api.ning.com/files/tADqqsjh6wKpg5lZtbxUT1kVI1IhxSokkRmy*bDud30IahCIguG3jA9iROY2sxNiH5N-XR-AuOvqzcF8OFgqx1KHedYWhpOt/TheFinalSecretOfFreeEnergy.pdf)
Start reading at page six, and pay close attention to page 16.

QuoteTito L. Oracion: Page 2 Reply #22 on: August 28, 2009, 05:02:55 AM
A tip to all of you: study the real process or the real thing that is happening when charging many caps of at least 10K uf in high voltage dc and discharging it sequencially in a coil with secondary! the only secret here is how you connect the caps from battery and coil efficiently! thats it you have it.
offcourse you pulse it!

QuoteTito L. Oracion: Page 3 Reply #34 on: August 29, 2009, 12:31:54 AM
Quote from: stprue on August 28, 2009, 02:57:00 PM
Are you charging them all at the same time and then using something along the lines of a led chaser circuit for discharging? ...and probably some back into the coil and some caps for useable energy?[/i]
well, partly you are correct but there is still missing, the technique of using other coil making a kick without using any current from the input and that makes excess or unlimited energy. and i got this technique in henderson file. [hendershot? file[/i]][/font][/size]
my device is a combination of tom bearden, henderson and bedini.

QuoteTito L. Oracion: Page 3 Reply #39 on: August 30, 2009, 12:26:30 AM
hi mark
...CAPACITOR IS THE SOLUTION!!!

QuoteTito L. Oracion: Page 4 Reply #52 on: September 17, 2009, 04:30:23 AM
i focused my self on energy amplification because i believe that the real secret of our previous scientist and inventors is on how to amplify a small energy. tesla, moray, habbard, hendershot, bearden, bedini.
like for example the tesla's radiant energy that was not patented without something in it ok its not weak, WE CAN AMPLIFY IT OK.
The secret is boldly discussed in this forum already its so very easy you have to notice it.
A COIL THAT MAKES A BIG KICK WITHOUT USING ANY CURRENT!
AND WE CAN MAKE UNLIMITTED NUMBERS OF THEM OK

QuoteTito L. Oracion: Page 4 Reply #53 on: September 17, 2009, 04:47:05 AM
Quote from: stprue on September 11, 2009, 02:29:37 PM
@Tito
- What is the physical size of your device? Can you give us some dimensions? Parts?
- Are you only using 2-3 coils?
- How are they wound?
- How are you driving it?
ARE YOU ONLY USING 2-3 COILS? : its up to your design, the manyer the coil, the bigger capacity you can produced ok.

HOW ARE THEY WOUND? : opcourse bifillar is still the best plus the magic coil that makes the big kick just include it in the bifillar to fill the collector fully charge in energy ok.
HOW ARE YOU DRIVING IT?: well, just a matter of on and off ok. thats how simple it is.
i think you can ask sir otto for parts and dimensions ok. its not a big deal in my device ok its just so very simple device.

Quoteby the way i'm not using spark gap better to use diode and capacitor and magnet ok.
not only one high self inductance but many , you can connect them in series or parallel ok. it depends to you.
note: the used energy should not be returning to the source in order not to kill the dipole ok.
and the used energy can be used also as an output!
plus the real output so you get the used energy and the output energy be added then you get excess then make some little charging action to make battery always alive ok.

I have to go digest this myself. I hope this helps.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 30, 2012, 01:45:26 PM

Thanks for the FE images, Teets.
I like this one:
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.next.gr%2Fuploads%2F135-d0025406e5.jpg&hash=0dbd1d5eeb8aa2c5ab703381fa1132012fcbd0da)
http://www.next.gr/uploads/135-d0025406e5.jpg (http://www.next.gr/uploads/135-d0025406e5.jpg)
All I see missing are coils.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on December 30, 2012, 06:38:40 PM

How about this?

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KJkPndz.BQNUwAOHCJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dfree%2Benergy%26ri%3D37%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D54&w=683&h=463&imgurl=www.hho4free.com%2Fimages%2Ftbfnrganm%2520Free%2520Energy%2520Generator%2520principle.gif&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hho4free.com%2Ffree_energy_generator_principles.htm&size=20.6+KB&name=Free+Energy+Generator+principles&p=free+energy&oid=e8be8953ba2cbcb41d1819d81e0918a7&fr2=&fr=&tt=Free%2BEnergy%2BGenerator%2Bprinciples&b=31&ni=66&no=54&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11s1epsgm&sigb=12iab3j8e&sigi=12dlln4dk&.crumb=6ihfo6bMMFx

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 30, 2012, 07:48:10 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on December 30, 2012, 06:38:40 PM
How about this?

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KJkPndz.BQNUwAOHCJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dfree%2Benergy%26ri%3D37%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D54&w=683&h=463&imgurl=www.hho4free.com%2Fimages%2Ftbfnrganm%2520Free%2520Energy%2520Generator%2520principle.gif&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hho4free.com%2Ffree_energy_generator_principles.htm&size=20.6+KB&name=Free+Energy+Generator+principles&p=free+energy&oid=e8be8953ba2cbcb41d1819d81e0918a7&fr2=&fr=&tt=Free%2BEnergy%2BGenerator%2Bprinciples&b=31&ni=66&no=54&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11s1epsgm&sigb=12iab3j8e&sigi=12dlln4dk&.crumb=6ihfo6bMMFx (http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KJkPndz.BQNUwAOHCJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dfree%2Benergy%26ri%3D37%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D54&w=683&h=463&imgurl=www.hho4free.com%2Fimages%2Ftbfnrganm%2520Free%2520Energy%2520Generator%2520principle.gif&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hho4free.com%2Ffree_energy_generator_principles.htm&size=20.6+KB&name=Free+Energy+Generator+principles&p=free+energy&oid=e8be8953ba2cbcb41d1819d81e0918a7&fr2=&fr=&tt=Free%2BEnergy%2BGenerator%2Bprinciples&b=31&ni=66&no=54&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11s1epsgm&sigb=12iab3j8e&sigi=12dlln4dk&.crumb=6ihfo6bMMFx)

And, maybe this. Using the diodes as controllers instead of switches. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 30, 2012, 08:15:39 PM

Now, how do we come by some semiconductor wire? ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 30, 2012, 08:21:31 PM

Hi Tito
so your from Philippines also
If they can decipher your surname hehehe thats were the secret is lol
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 30, 2012, 08:30:17 PM

Quote from: totoalas on December 30, 2012, 08:21:31 PM
Hi Tito
so your from Philippines also
If they can decipher your surname hehehe thats were the secret is lol
totoalas

Nichrome wire???? :o :o :o

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 30, 2012, 10:49:51 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 30, 2012, 08:15:39 PM
Now, how do we come by some semiconductor wire? ;)
Mags

Mags, my guess is that the semiconductor wire is simply a diode (or diodes in series). Over and over, Teets has emphasized cap, bifi coil and diode. If the degenerate semiconductor is just a diode(s), then it's as though it's been hidden in plain sight. My time is limited this week, but I'll try to keep working at it.

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 31, 2012, 01:21:40 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on December 30, 2012, 10:49:51 PM
Mags, my guess is that the semiconductor wire is simply a diode (or diodes in series). Over and over, Teets has emphasized cap, bifi coil and diode. If the degenerate semiconductor is just a diode(s), then it's as though it's been hidden in plain sight. My time is limited this week, but I'll try to keep working at it.

Bob

I had thought about that also. But wouldnt that effect have come about in some or any of the circuits we have seen here at OU, that have diodes in them? ;)

What it sounds like from Bearden, is that it can either be a coil/inductor made of degenerated wire(corroded copper? Green?) or a capacitor made rigid. The cap is supposedly available, upwards of $2k 1uf. :o :o ;)

It must be a device that is able to take on a charge and dissipate that charge. Diodes cant do that. Even with a diode in series with a coil, the coils relaxation time will not be changed. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 31, 2012, 03:05:54 AM

gayahin mo si steve rejuso dala family nya sa singapore nagconsultant sya sagot ng govt nila iba utak sa pinas 2000 pesos n lang ngaun

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 31, 2012, 03:24:34 PM

Check out this 1960 patent. It talks about negative resistance at low voltages using a degenerate semiconductor as voltage regulator - Teets mentioned using a diode as a voltage regulator recently - (see pat. page 3, lines 37-43, left column). Diagram is on page 1, see explanation on page 3, with special attention to line 59 and following (right column) for arrangement of cap, diode and inductor.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3104352.pdf (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3104352.pdf)

Here's an interesting quote (for what it's worth):

QuoteDegenerate semiconductor is used in laser diodes, Zener diodes and ohm contacts in ICs and as metal gates in many microelectronic MOS devices. http://www.expertsmind.com/questions/degenerate-and-non-degenerate-semiconductor-3016182.aspx (http://www.expertsmind.com/questions/degenerate-and-non-degenerate-semiconductor-3016182.aspx)

It seems to me a deg. semiconductor most a propos to Tito's device is either a zener or tunneling diode. I have to read more, but time is short right now. I do know it's important to get straight the differences between avalanche breakdown and behaviour of a tunneling diode. I believe the zener in reverse bias exhibits some TD qualities, but I have to read more and sort it out. It may or may not be important.

Maybe somebody can pick up the fork and stab a little further at this :)
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 31, 2012, 08:48:30 PM

After a 24 hour marathon review of otits comments
Hed been saying all along
CoilS caps and batteries tito has aviso has it dingel has it no more secret to discover
Ftequency rresonance airwaves
Kaya nga sabi ng mga nasnip ko ddmanda daw nila ang globe transmitter lalo daw silang naging tamad at 100% full time tambay

Happy nu yr
Totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 01, 2013, 09:56:54 AM

Dr naksmatsu of japan the thing he want yo invent id majick
His device using cosmic rays used pizza sized capa plates to power his 30 rooms and sell exvess power to the grid

Check his yt and enjoy

Imtotob aka totoalas ;) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 01, 2013, 02:56:41 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 04, 2012, 08:40:28 PM
THE FREE ENERGY COMES FROM THE REACTION OF THE COIL FROM THE EXTRA COIL ;) 8)
AND in terms of the sun,
Its the reaction of the EXTRA electron from the silicon by means of heat. ;)
and in term of Magnet,
Its the changing magnetic field that gives energy to the electron to move or flow. ;)
ALL IN ALL: IT IS THE UNBALANCE DESIGN OF EVERYTHING THAT MAKES EVERYTHING FLOW AND SEEK FOR BALANCE. ;) 8)
AND THAT IS THE TRUTH. :o

QuoteTHE FREE ENERGY COMES FROM THE REACTION OF THE COIL FROM THE EXTRA COIL ;) 8) AND in terms of the sun,

-radiant energy (from the sun) in the main coil, picked up by bifilar secondary?
- bifi coil cancels transverse wave and secondary reflection from secondary to primary, thereby leaving primary isolated. Only longitudinal (scalar waves) present in bifi coil. Other coils can pick up same scalar energy without losses/change to primary.

QuoteIts the reaction of the EXTRA electron from the silicon by means of heat. ;)
and in term of Magnet,

- if you discharge secondary bifi coil into cap using AV plug, then into coil, then fwd biased diode, you have mag flux in coil (after AV plug) and pulse from collapsing field fed into "silicon" diode?

QuoteIT IS THE UNBALANCE DESIGN OF EVERYTHING THAT MAKES EVERYTHING FLOW AND SEEK FOR BALANCE. ;) 8)
AND THAT IS THE TRUTH. :o

-If your main coil is the receiver/antenna, and your pickup coil is bifi, you have no reflective losses between the bifi and receiver/antenna coil, and system stays open.

Only problem is, you've got a very small signal. I think that somewhere between the main coil (receiver/antenna) and bifi, you've got to use a voltage multiplier to boost the voltage, then discharge into AV plug -- cap--coil--diode.

Just thinking out loud. Will work at building now.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 01, 2013, 05:30:39 PM

Only problem is, you've got a very small signal. I think that somewhere between the main coil (receiver/antenna) and bifi, you've got to use a voltage multiplier to boost the voltage, then discharge into AV plug -- cap--coil--diode.

Just thinking out loud. Will work at building now.
Bob

Hi Bob
2013 seems to be the end of the talk and do the walk as they say
Big guns in Jule thief are now on that small signal using AMP2
If somebody can summarize Aviso's technique on the pulsing and harnessing of cap s voltage @ the saturation point then
its just a matter of months .... tito has contributed a lot lol now its our turn
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 01, 2013, 10:48:12 PM

hi everyone, goodmorning, goodnight , goodyear ;D

HAPPY HAPPY NEW YEAR

GOD BLESS EVERYONE!!!!!

@BOB AND TOTOALAS

THANK you for your advice buddy ;)

@all
I will direct you to this direction CAUSE THIS IS THE TRUTH!!!!, Forget all my fast post ok
AND just focus on
RADIANT ENERGY OF NIKOLA TESLA THAT IS THE REAL PERFECT SECRET!!!
AND THAT IS MY GIVE AWAY TO MANKIND. ;)

Nikola Tesla didn't able to finished that into reality because of REAL SUPPRESSION but its already finished and working into his brain.
And this is really his perfect solution to energy distribution using wireless. :o
So therefore as the fact says that we should only crack the workhorse gangnam style of Tesla and use it. ;D

Ps: Totoalas if you reverse it, its salaotot and its sounds smelly isn't it buddy? joke. ;D

but Tito oracion sounds titialas bwahahahhahhahahhahh lol ;D

AND I'M HOPING FOR YOUR SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( ;) :) ;D

Goodluck everyone ;D
Tito L. Oracion :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 01, 2013, 10:59:47 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 01, 2013, 10:48:12 PM

@all
I will direct you to this direction CAUSE THIS IS THE TRUTH!!!!, Forget all my fast post ok
AND just focus on
RADIANT ENERGY OF NIKOLA TESLA THAT IS THE REAL PERFECT SECRET!!!
AND THAT IS MY GIVE AWAY TO MANKIND. ;)

UUUGGGHH! Really? Forget 170 pages, 3 years, 317000 reads? Just forget it? None of it is any good? None of it works??????

Im out.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 01, 2013, 11:09:33 PM

Okay everyone you listen!! >:( !

Here is another give aways technology that is surely and a long time working already:

To those who really want to make a perpetual motion but not actually a perpetual. :o ??? ??? ???

but very controllable, here it is:

Imagine an AUTOMATIC WATCH, IF WE CAN ONLY DO IT IN BIG VERSION, THEN WE CAN MAKE FREE ENERGY RIGHT? ;) 8)
JUST MAKE A AT LEAST ONE ROTATION IN THE SPRING ENERGY INPUT OF WATCH AND IT CAN LAST MORE THAN A WHOLE DAY RIGHT? AM I RIGHT? :)

DIDN'T YOU NOTICE THAT EVERYONE? ;D

How much more if we make a battery as energy input that will initially make a rotation in the device we made and the device will charge the battery.
isn't that a real efficient free energy? ;)

TITO L. ORACION ;D ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 01, 2013, 11:12:27 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on January 01, 2013, 10:59:47 PM
UUUGGGHH! Really? Forget 170 pages, 3 years, 317000 reads? Just forget it? None of it is any good? None of it works? ??? ??

Im out.

Mags

No! i just want everybody to concentrate on this one.

Cause This is the fruit of 170 pages and 3 years. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 01, 2013, 11:29:35 PM

@mags

i think its a mis undertood for you but i'm making it easier for everyone to filter lots of info.

and i know that you know that all info i post are truth. :)

:( :( :( :( ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on January 02, 2013, 12:08:27 AM

Just give mags a break, he's just tired of thingking after 3yrs of secret tips lol. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 02, 2013, 01:22:06 AM

extra coil = antenna
radiant energy = radio waves
watch spring = resonant circuit in economic stage (efficient use of power source, remember!?)

OU comes from ether under strength we all know very well ;D because it's around from our childhood and during hiking also ;) , however it's so simple that nobody believes

still working on the method of tapping it :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 02, 2013, 01:42:08 AM

tito
it took them 3 yrs to bear with you and i took 24 hours to read all your comments
being true to yourself as you say is your right this is your house
dingel showed the world the technology and kept till the end
aviso had partnership too to enhace his invention and gaining progress
the question is
is it time for you to shine and chage the hope expectations and respect into reality
pinaasa mo sila at mahalaga ka sa kanila

wika po ng kaitaasan
sa ngalan ng ama ina anak at dios espiritu santo sya nawa
payong kapatid
mahal ka ni bro

toto

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 02, 2013, 11:16:40 AM

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Hi everyone

Its hard for me to express what i want to say i'm not used to speak in english but if you know how to always make the potential energy nothing is imposible.

i will be busy in my experiments now i cannot always respond anymore, but dont worry i will make my visit here still and make an update.

manytimes i ask question just to know other designs that i already have.

i would like to thanks Giant killer, Jadaro2600, sparks, Paul Gauthier, and of course Sir PESE for their good info.

some other time i will make my video and present my tpu and the energy
amplifier. promise!
:)

;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( The solution is always at the front of our eyes we just overlook at it.

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otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on January 02, 2013, 11:21:44 AM

Don Smith said the energy in space is dormant. In order it to become useful we need to disturb it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on January 02, 2013, 11:24:36 AM

There is no secret, here in this thread.

:P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on January 02, 2013, 11:42:28 AM

I haven't stopped by this thread in almost a year. I can't believe that you people are still following this idiot.
He has no clue of free energy but tries to make you believe that he has it. How many times has he said that he is
leaving but he's still here passing out a bunch of crap for you to swallow up.
He just likes the attention and the feeling that he is smarter then everyone else. "It is so simple, don't you see it".
One of his favourite sayings. I'll take another look in a year or so and see if he is still making you guys jump through hoops.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 02, 2013, 11:45:55 AM

wattsup is waiting on the other side
just parting words ......
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on January 02, 2013, 12:58:07 PM

Quote from: MrMag on January 02, 2013, 11:42:28 AM
I haven't stopped by this thread in almost a year. I can't believe that you people are still following this idiot.
He has no clue of free energy but tries to make you believe that he has it. How many times has he said that he is
leaving but he's still here passing out a bunch of crap for you to swallow up.
He just likes the attention and the feeling that he is smarter then everyone else. "It is so simple, don't you see it".
One of his favourite sayings. I'll take another look in a year or so and see if he is still making you guys jump through hoops.

Perfectly stated.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: 27Bubba on January 02, 2013, 01:52:14 PM

Here is my post on different thread pertain to this..

"@Tito

Hey Tito,
I have been following your posts for while now and the only question that comes to my mind how old are you? The guessing games you are playing remind me game my 6 years old grandson is playing with his younger sister.. If you an adult, act like ! Really!! >:("

IMHO.. If he got something and honestly want to share he would do it LONG TIME A GO!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 02, 2013, 07:52:07 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 01, 2013, 11:09:33 PM
Imagine an AUTOMATIC WATCH, IF WE CAN ONLY DO IT IN BIG VERSION, THEN WE CAN MAKE FREE ENERGY RIGHT? ;) 8)
JUST MAKE A AT LEAST ONE ROTATION IN THE SPRING ENERGY INPUT OF WATCH AND IT CAN LAST MORE THAN A WHOLE DAY RIGHT? AM I RIGHT? :)
DIDN'T YOU NOTICE THAT EVERYONE? ;D
How much more if we make a battery as energy input that will initially make a rotation in the device we made and the device will charge the battery.
isn't that a real efficient free energy? ;)
TITO L. ORACION ;D ;)

Okay Teets, I'll bite --
The battery provides your initial pulses (perhaps with a proper sized cap or better yet, a properly set up 555 timer switch). These pulses going round and round are the wind-up on the watch. The pulses are going to ring in the bifi pickup coils due to their own capacitance.
BoB

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 02, 2013, 11:29:49 PM

What!!!!!!!!!!!!? :o

What did i do? :o

I thought in my self that i've done good to everyone in saying where i directed all and that is the truth. :(

HEY MAGS!, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT ALL THINGS I SAID BEFORE ARE NOT WORKING, UNDERSTOOD? ITS A FAVOR TO A RESEARCHER OR TO EVERYONE TO FOCUS ONLY IN THIS PROJECT WHERE I SHOWED THE RIGHT PATH! >:( YOUR CONCLUSION IS WRONG!!!! >:( >:( >:(

but instead i received the word "idiot" :o wow

i said that because i want all to concentrate on this project cause this is the truth, the real solution, the perfect solution that even tesla was suppressed :( :(

in my many previous post in three years as mags said, those tips are tips in many projects and i now directed you in one project, isn't that good? ???

and that's truth and absolutely truth. :(

well maybe suppression to this project is still alive and i think you now know them by now. am i right Mr.mags ;D
now if i'm idiot, one time you follow an idiot and its fun isn't it? ;D ;D
and you are also followed by your angel ;D isn't it stprue? ;D ;D

@ everyone
You already saw the story of the magnifying transmitter if not watch, read, study so that you will know that i tell the truth! :)

Ps:Youknow what?, i did not get anything here but insult inspite of giving you good info! >:( >:( >:(

i'm not anymore having fun here with you!!!!!! >:(

Now i think i also finally out >:(

SO WHAT!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

NOW EVERYONE, YOU CAN SAY EVERYTHING AND I WILL NOT RESPOND ANYMORE. :)

THIS TIME I WILL NOT SAY GOODBYE
BUT YOU REALLY HURT ME :)

MR. MAGS AND STPRUE YOU WON ;D

TO MR. STEFAN IF YOU WANT YOU CAN DELETE ALL MY POST SIR, GOODBYE AND HAVE A NICE DAY! ;)

:-* ;D :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 02, 2013, 11:39:51 PM

Quote from: 27Bubba on January 02, 2013, 01:52:14 PM
Here is my post on different thread pertain to this..

"@Tito

Hey Tito,
I have been following your posts for while now and the only question that comes to my mind how old are you? The guessing games you are playing remind me game my 6 years old grandson is playing with his younger sister.. If you an adult, act like ! Really!! >:( "

IMHO.. If he got something and honestly want to share he would do it LONG TIME A GO!

Sorry, that's my style. and its OPPA GANGNAM style ;D

SO what's wrong grandfa. JUST ride on ;D joke

The real thing is to whom who deserves it, and i think they don't, sorry. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 02, 2013, 11:44:56 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on January 02, 2013, 11:21:44 AM
Don Smith said the energy in space is dormant. In order it to become useful we need to disturb it.

Ya, that's absolutely right!
That's why tesla want to disturb it using his magnifying transmitter!

but suppressors are in there. :)

and they won ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 02, 2013, 11:48:49 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on January 02, 2013, 07:52:07 PM

Okay Teets, I'll bite --
The battery provides your initial pulses (perhaps with a proper sized cap or better yet, a properly set up 555 timer switch). These pulses going round and round are the wind-up on the watch. The pulses are going to ring in the bifi pickup coils due to their own capacitance.
BoB

hey buddy, sorry if i hurt you also but that is really the truth ok. just continue to study buddy your always be my hero. ;) ;)

The long time secret of Tesla and the dream of tesla that was already working perfectly in his mind is here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k2ROmDiX_Q

We need a very little modification here, believe me buddy its the truth. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5NWsN2yAFY

i'm hoping for your success.
Take care buddy ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on January 03, 2013, 08:39:33 AM

Finally

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 03, 2013, 09:29:56 AM

Quote from: stprue on January 03, 2013, 08:39:33 AM
Finally

Finally what ? >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 03, 2013, 09:43:57 AM

Okay Teets. I think I get it - Energy from air (voltage source) and magnifying transmitter. Makes sense to me.
Here's a link to aerial systems for picking up radiant energy (see Jes Ascanius system):
http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt7.html (http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt7.html)
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on January 03, 2013, 09:56:15 AM

Quote from: forest on January 03, 2013, 09:29:56 AM
Finally what ? >:( >:( >:(

Finally he will stop posting. Well he wont really, so dont worry.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 03, 2013, 10:34:16 AM

tito is telling the truth but he has too much variations merged into one thinking flow so we are lost

but if you want to grasp what is going on watch carefully this and listen : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhu3Y2Dfw18

the same Tesla did in magnifying transmitter , magnets are not essential ,we have our big magnet right ? ;)
it's like a sun UV - you can burn skin from overdose of light during whole day or just use lens to do it faster ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: 27Bubba on January 03, 2013, 11:05:12 AM

Quote from: forest on January 03, 2013, 10:34:16 AM
tito is telling the truth but he has too much variations merged into one thinking flow so we are lost

DID HE EVER PRODUCED DRAWING/SCHEMATIC? That's the only question I got..

but if you want to grasp what is going on watch carefully this and listen : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhu3Y2Dfw18

the same Tesla did in magnifying transmitter , magnets are not essential ,we have our big magnet right ? ;)
it's like a sun UV - you can burn skin from overdose of light during whole day or just use lens to do it faster ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 03, 2013, 04:50:13 PM

Tito Teetsla
keep them coming rock and roll 8)
toto alas ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on January 03, 2013, 06:50:34 PM

Quote from: forest on January 03, 2013, 10:34:16 AM
tito is telling the truth but he has too much variations merged into one thinking flow so we are lost

but if you want to grasp what is going on watch carefully this and listen : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhu3Y2Dfw18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhu3Y2Dfw18)

the same Tesla did in magnifying transmitter , magnets are not essential ,we have our big magnet right ? ;)
it's like a sun UV - you can burn skin from overdose of light during whole day or just use lens to do it faster ;D ;D ;D

Thats basically it! But somehow i've heavent heard of richard for the past years, does he really have what he claims? Maybe not? :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on January 03, 2013, 08:19:05 PM

In the meantime the free energy is available, play with the original @oracion circuit:

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 03, 2013, 09:13:03 PM

Quote from: nievesoliveras on January 03, 2013, 08:19:05 PM
In the meantime the free energy is available, play with the original @oracion circuit:

Nice Niev. ;) A bit different than his first circuit, long ago.

I understand that I can put up an antenna and pull in small amounts of free energy. I was a crystal radio nut as a kid. Its cool. Its great in fact. But it wont run my air conditioner in my home. It wont run my electric car, unless I let it charge for 6 months to a year, with a big tower on the roof.

This isnt going to put a dent in the cost of gas, oil and electricity. 90 some watts is awesome, but better own a home on a piece of land to run the antenna. Appartment dwellwers, welcome to micro watts.

I said Im out. I am on that. After all of the different clues and hints, it would seem that Tito has figured out all of the devices. Hendershot, Bedini, Tesla, Smith, SM, etc, all of them it seems.

How can that be? How many people can say that? Any? Yet nota one circuit thats verified to work on this whole site. Except maybe Niev's rendition. ;)

Tito started out here with saying he has SM's secret. Promises to show, then no go, indefinitely. Then it is the magnifying transmitter. Then just coil, coil ,coil, coil for cap, coil for resistor. Then coil magnet diode. Then Ozone pat(same as the Igniter pat).. Then while Im doing vids of some Tesla coil oddities, he busts out a water works idea. Nothing close to complete, as usual. Why? Didnt you like my Tesla coil experiments? Creating a diversion? ??? ;)

Then the other day you said, They dont deserve it. >:(

But you deserve the right to pleasure yourself by our 3 years of YOU having fun. Very good of you. Thank you so much. >:(

But you deserve respect, for showing us all the clues, patents and hints, all of which dont work without some "twist". Very well. You deserve it. >:(

You deserve everything Tito. You deserve to brag and show nothing. Well thats just dandy. >:( Thats like 1 kid saying to the others, "I have an ice cream, but you cant have none, cuz you on the welfare." Thanks

Its King Tito. He is right. And we are all wrong. ;)

As Forest Gump had said, Thats all I got to say about that, Jinny. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 04, 2013, 04:47:02 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on January 03, 2013, 09:13:03 PM
Nice Niev. ;) A bit different than his first circuit, long ago.

I understand that I can put up an antenna and pull in small amounts of free energy. I was a crystal radio nut as a kid. Its cool. Its great in fact. But it wont run my air conditioner in my home. It wont run my electric car, unless I let it charge for 6 months to a year, with a big tower on the roof.

This isnt going to put a dent in the cost of gas, oil and electricity. 90 some watts is awesome, but better own a home on a piece of land to run the antenna. Appartment dwellwers, welcome to micro watts.

I said Im out. I am on that. After all of the different clues and hints, it would seem that Tito has figured out all of the devices. Hendershot, Bedini, Tesla, Smith, SM, etc, all of them it seems.

How can that be? How many people can say that? Any? Yet nota one circuit thats verified to work on this whole site. Except maybe Niev's rendition. ;)

Tito started out here with saying he has SM's secret. Promises to show, then no go, indefinitely. Then it is the magnifying transmitter. Then just coil, coil ,coil, coil for cap, coil for resistor. Then coil magnet diode. Then Ozone pat(same as the Igniter pat).. Then while Im doing vids of some Tesla coil oddities, he busts out a water works idea. Nothing close to complete, as usual. Why? Didnt you like my Tesla coil experiments? Creating a diversion? ??? ;)

Then the other day you said, They dont deserve it. >:(

But you deserve the right to pleasure yourself by our 3 years of YOU having fun. Very good of you. Thank you so much. >:(

But you deserve respect, for showing us all the clues, patents and hints, all of which dont work without some "twist". Very well. You deserve it. >:(

You deserve everything Tito. You deserve to brag and show nothing. Well thats just dandy. >:( Thats like 1 kid saying to the others, "I have an ice cream, but you cant have none, cuz you on the welfare." Thanks

Its King Tito. He is right. And we are all wrong. ;)

As Forest Gump had said, Thats all I got to say about that, Jinny. ;)

Mags

I don't want to make quarrel to you bud, but you are conditioning lots of reader's so i become very bad, so be it! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Thank you for your insult!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(

Your conclusions are wrong about what i am is thinking!!!! >:( yours are negative.

okay you can say what you want. >:(

i just can't nearly control my fingers ;D

That's all i got, i'll now leave it all to the Lord. :)

Don't say that you don't got anything from me, am i right?
Be careful bud to what you say, Cause The Lord knows our heart.

Yes i admit you can bit me in this discussion cause i can't really tell or express my self clearly, so be careful bud ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stprue on January 04, 2013, 08:22:33 AM

I though you were not going to post anymore!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 04, 2013, 08:32:58 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 04, 2013, 04:47:02 AM

I don't want to make quarrel to you bud, but you are conditioning lots of reader's so i become very bad, so be it! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Thank you for your insult!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(

Your conclusions are wrong about what i am is thinking!!!! >:( yours are negative.

okay you can say what you want. >:(

i just can't nearly control my fingers ;D

That's all i got, i'll now leave it all to the Lord. :)

Don't say that you don't got anything from me, am i right?
Be careful bud to what you say, Cause The Lord knows our heart.

Yes i admit you can bit me in this discussion cause i can't really tell or express my self clearly, so be careful bud ;D

No insult. Just the truth.

It is you that presents clues of ideas that are incomplete. "They dont deserve it"

It is you that tells everyone YOU are having fun. Because "They dont deserve it

It is YOU that watches us do it the wrong way and then try to sell us on a different idea when we dont get it. "They dont deserve it"

Now you want to vindicate yourself by selling us a crystal radio. "They dont deserve it"

You want to vindicate your self here by posing me as if I have done something wrong in the Lords eyes. I have said the truth.

If we dont deserve it, then why present these clues at all? Its so you can have your 'fun', at others expense.

I have no problem with the Lord. I dont lead people on for 3 years of broken promises. I dont tell people "you dont deserve anything, but I have it. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Yea, and im the one that has a problem with the Lord??? You better check yourself. ;)

Everyone knows who I am here. When I give help. I GIVE IT. With no restraint. With no cost. With no expectation. And You say I have a problem with the Lord????? ::)

Is it the Lord that tells you to try to sell Teslas ideas for 3 mil dollars???? As if you invented it????? Tesla wanted to do the right thing, and you want to cash in on it. >:( What a scam.

What ever Tito. I will not contribute to your free fun any longer. Hope you enjoyed your self.

I will still be around. But it wont be fun anymore. ;) I will not waste my life any longer on your fun, Bud. Though you think you deserve it. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on January 04, 2013, 11:16:45 AM

Thank you, Magluvin for your (long awaited) argument (I wanted to put here the word "tirade" but I found it would be somewhat too harsh in this case). I think, one must be blind saying you do anything inappropriate in this forum. With this argument you only confirm (reaffirm) my feelings about you (and about Tito) in this thread and this forum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 04, 2013, 11:39:53 AM

3 years plus 4 days cmon guys
lets sepatate the boys from men
deal lor no deal? is it a deal
i may be new here but the plain truth is NADA Nothing
we call it pyramidding but insteaf of cash time and effort were wasted inspite of generous trch support grom ou members
promises serve ad inspiration but end result are devastating ewhen one reneged on it
we call it in tagalog Pusong bato :-) heart of stone
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 04, 2013, 09:11:09 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on January 04, 2013, 08:32:58 AM
No insult. Just the truth.

It is you that presents clues of ideas that are incomplete. "They dont deserve it"

It is you that tells everyone YOU are having fun. Because "They dont deserve it

It is YOU that watches us do it the wrong way and then try to sell us on a different idea when we dont get it. "They dont deserve it"

Now you want to vindicate yourself by selling us a crystal radio. "They dont deserve it"

You want to vindicate your self here by posing me as if I have done something wrong in the Lords eyes. I have said the truth.

If we dont deserve it, then why present these clues at all? Its so you can have your 'fun', at others expense.

I have no problem with the Lord. I dont lead people on for 3 years of broken promises. I dont tell people "you dont deserve anything, but I have it. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Yea, and im the one that has a problem with the Lord??? You better check yourself. ;)

Everyone knows who I am here. When I give help. I GIVE IT. With no restraint. With no cost. With no expectation. And You say I have a problem with the Lord? ??? ? ::)

Is it the Lord that tells you to try to sell Teslas ideas for 3 mil dollars? ??? As if you invented it? ??? ? Tesla wanted to do the right thing, and you want to cash in on it. >:( What a scam.

What ever Tito. I will not contribute to your free fun any longer. Hope you enjoyed your self.

I will still be around. But it wont be fun anymore. ;) I will not waste my life any longer on your fun, Bud. Though you think you deserve it. ;)

Mags

No!, The issue here is just simple buddy.

I just lighted the right path, right direction that i should tell a very long time ago. :) but you don't want to believe.

i realize that, you become angry when i said your conclusion is wrong with this face >:( cause i just showed you the right direction.

and i praise someone, it seems that there is a little jealous, ego and pride attacking in that moment, sorry but that is what i felt from you bud,
but i really don't have any intention of something wrong but really to filter the information i gave and really show the right path.

cause if you just realize moray, tesla uses only an antenna to have free energy. and SM uses only antena and battery version which is both possible.

And i understand you about that behaviour for what i've done for three years, i'am not really going to say the secret in detail but at least i showed the path :) and sir Wattsup is really correct for that. :(

I have nothing against you buddy and i don't really want to quarrel with you.
maybe its a misunderstanding or what, i don't know.

i'm not perfect okay, i'm not saying that i fully know the designs of every FE inventor ok, but i know one thing, cause only one energy amplifier they are using. and i'm sure of that. promise. :)

now i don't know what to say anymore ;D

but i can release my hand ready for handshake from my sixorgan ;D and from the bottom of my foot, i mean heart, lets be friends again. :)

@stprue
don't worry buddy i'll do that, if not anymore necessary.
do not insult me and no more respond, but i'll watch :) :o 8)

@anyone
one reason why i change my mind abruptly because sometimes a friend becomes a mortal enemies at anytime :)

ok, i guess i hurt many heart, sorry i apologize :)

just continue to study and make really simple research maybe you'll get it. ;)

bye :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: 27Bubba on January 04, 2013, 09:48:49 PM

Tito L. Oracion wrote..

"And i understand you about that behaviour for what i've done for three years, i'am not really going to say the secret in detail but at least i showed the path :)"

@ALL
Right there he said all..

@Tito L. Oracion

In my book, you are a looser who find a enjoyment of leading people astray. You never have and never will release any kind of schematic/drawing of a working OU device because you have no idea what are you writing about... I'm out, because I found this an insult to my intelligence to follow this clown, and to all of you who have little self respect to do the same! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 04, 2013, 10:08:35 PM

Quote from: 27Bubba on January 04, 2013, 09:48:49 PM
Tito L. Oracion wrote..

"And i understand you about that behaviour for what i've done for three years, i'am not really going to say the secret in detail but at least i showed the path :) "

@ALL
Right there he said all..

@Tito L. Oracion

In my book, you are a looser who find a enjoyment of leading people astray. You never have and never will release any kind of schematic/drawing of a working OU device because you have no idea what are you writing about... I'm out, because I found this an insult to my intelligence to follow this clown, and to all of you who have little self respect to do the same! >:(

What i've done in three years, is like a teasing with joke and learning, but that's the way i like it. but i'm not a lier >:(

WELL, grandfa, first of all i did not tell them to follow me, i just tell some info and hints where i also learned, understood. >:(

Well, that is in your book and i think that is your opinion and you are entitled to that, wow ;D

Well, it is not bad to follow grand fa, it seems that he is convincing all of you to follow him, if i'm right. ???

Actually you can asked some filipinoS what is 27BUBBA IN THE PHILIPPINES ;D JOKE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 04, 2013, 10:34:36 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 04, 2013, 10:08:35 PM
What i've done in three years, is like a teasing with joke and learning, but that's the way i like it. but i'm not a lier >:(

WELL, grandfa, first of all "i did not tell them to follow me", i just tell some info and hints where i also learned, understood. >:(

"i did not tell them to follow me"

From old post....
"Currently I'm busy and fun modifying some tesla's patents, expect some of my modified circuit for next couple of days.
i will share them to all of you don't worry sir."

"next time i will show you my another modification of the igniters patent."

http://www.overunity.com/5975/stefan-and-newman-motor/msg142206/#msg142206

"but i'm not a lier"

"i did not tell them to follow me"

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 04, 2013, 10:52:38 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on January 04, 2013, 10:34:36 PM
"i did not tell them to follow me"

From old post....
"Currently I'm busy and fun modifying some tesla's patents, expect some of my modified circuit for next couple of days.
i will share them to all of you don't worry sir."

"next time i will show you my another modification of the igniters patent."

http://www.overunity.com/5975/stefan-and-newman-motor/msg142206/#msg142206 (http://www.overunity.com/5975/stefan-and-newman-motor/msg142206/#msg142206)

"but i'm not a lier"

"i did not tell them to follow me"

Mags

i'm already offering a peaceful offering to you, why are you doing that bud, is that your way of destroying me? :( starting a fire again? :(

Well, i admit i said that, yes, but anyone here can make experiments. and something is added in our knowledge when we do some experiment. means no lost at all.

like what i've said i'm just human, sometimes my mood change because somebody change it into bad. and abruptly change my mind remember?.
but all in all i'm not a lier especially from the important info.

yes, i don't answer if i don't want to answer but i'm not a lier ok. :)

And even if i told everyone to follow me, it still fall into the freewill or decision of everyone to follow it or not ok, so do not blame anyone if you follow that, cause that is still your decision. :)

bye i need to eat now. peace to all of you ok?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 05, 2013, 12:09:39 AM

Take a stack of 100 $1dollar bills. About an inch thick.

Now say we have 100 of these stacks of $1 bills. 100 x 100 10,000 $1 dollar bills.

Now, undo the wrappers from the 100 stacks, and start throwing it around you, as far as you can in all directions.

Then look around. Look how many there are. Everywhere.

10,000

Thats how many people read this thread in the past few days.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on January 05, 2013, 12:43:38 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 02, 2013, 11:29:49 PM
What!!!!!!!!!!!!? :o

What did i do? :o

I thought in my self that i've done good to everyone in saying where i directed all and that is the truth. :(

HEY MAGS!, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT ALL THINGS I SAID BEFORE ARE NOT WORKING, UNDERSTOOD? ITS A FAVOR TO A RESEARCHER OR TO EVERYONE TO FOCUS ONLY IN THIS PROJECT WHERE I SHOWED THE RIGHT PATH! >:( YOUR CONCLUSION IS WRONG!!!! >:( >:( >:(

but instead i received the word "idiot" :o wow

i said that because i want all to concentrate on this project cause this is the truth, the real solution, the perfect solution that even tesla was suppressed :( :(

in my many previous post in three years as mags said, those tips are tips in many projects and i now directed you in one project, isn't that good? ???

and that's truth and absolutely truth. :(

well maybe suppression to this project is still alive and i think you now know them by now. am i right Mr.mags ;D
now if i'm idiot, one time you follow an idiot and its fun isn't it? ;D ;D
and you are also followed by your angel ;D isn't it stprue? ;D ;D

@ everyone
You already saw the story of the magnifying transmitter if not watch, read, study so that you will know that i tell the truth! :)

Ps:Youknow what?, i did not get anything here but insult inspite of giving you good info! >:( >:( >:(

i'm not anymore having fun here with you!!!!!! >:(

Now i think i also finally out >:(

SO WHAT!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

NOW EVERYONE, YOU CAN SAY EVERYTHING AND I WILL NOT RESPOND ANYMORE. :)

THIS TIME I WILL NOT SAY GOODBYE
BUT YOU REALLY HURT ME :)

MR. MAGS AND STPRUE YOU WON ;D

TO MR. STEFAN IF YOU WANT YOU CAN DELETE ALL MY POST SIR, GOODBYE AND HAVE A NICE DAY! ;)

:-* ;D :-*

In that above quoted post you forgot your very usual phrase: "GOD BLESS YOU".

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 05, 2013, 05:23:19 AM

Energy amplification comes from Tesla patents. Magnifying transmitter. Why magnifying ? Because it uses resonance to raise potential energy in one system and the ambient is producing the exact opposite copy of that one. Do not attempt to load original dipole source, load the ambient one. I think I was clear enough what Steven Mark, Moray and others did... We are floating in a balanced huge energy dipole...
I see some people are coming to the same proper understanding. Do not assume that one Tesla patent is enough. Even all completed are not enough. Tito is right - there are some small parts missing and one much important is lenzless way of transformation//// ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on January 05, 2013, 07:55:04 AM

Well at least we are learning some Language skills!!
Pusong bato :-) heart of stone
Teets
Quote
""Actually you can asked some filipinoS what is 27BUBBA IN THE PHILIPPINES ;D JOKE""

And we have a whole new Category for Christians
Christian Sadist!!Or the Evil Christian??

They have some very "personal" and strange greeting habits
Teets
Quote
""but i can release my hand ready for handshake from my sixorgan ;D and from the bottom of my foot,""

Lots of Carnal speak in the Christian sadist tonque? {odd]

I learned that A Christian Sadist Can have a friend [brother?] one minute and the next minute they are mortal enemys,WoW.....?
Apparently that happens all the time to them??

@Forrest
To touch the untouchable,The Shadows on the cave wall..
There are those that will become enlightened when they touch
and those who maybe need some more time in the Cave?

Teetsla
He's got some more learning to do [Me too].

Of one thing I am quite certain,If this were a bible story of Two brothers
Mags and his Evil twin Tito [sorry Mags] ,well we know how the path goes for Evil and greed.

Anything you have Gleaned here from the Christian sadist has for the most part been do to the Suffering he has put his "victim" Mags thru...

THX
Chet
Ps
This is not a flame war,it is just an Observation.
We are all "observers" these days [Quantum Observers}.

Like when I read this Quote I observed the "goose bumps"
Forrest
Quote
Energy amplification comes from Tesla patents. Magnifying transmitter. Why magnifying ? Because it uses resonance to raise potential energy in one system and the ambient is producing the exact opposite copy of that one. Do not attempt to load original dipole source, load the ambient one. I think I was clear enough what Steven Mark, Moray and others did... We are floating in a balanced huge energy dipole...
I see some people are coming to the same proper understanding. Do not assume that one Tesla patent is enough. Even all completed are not enough. Tito is right - there are some small parts missing and one much important is lenzless way of transformation//// ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 05, 2013, 11:19:31 AM

Quote from: forest on January 05, 2013, 05:23:19 AM
Energy amplification comes from Tesla patents. Magnifying transmitter. Why magnifying ? Because it uses resonance to raise potential energy in one system and the ambient is producing the exact opposite copy of that one. Do not attempt to load original dipole source, load the ambient one. I think I was clear enough what Steven Mark, Moray and others did... We are floating in a balanced huge energy dipole...
I see some people are coming to the same proper understanding. Do not assume that one Tesla patent is enough. Even all completed are not enough. Tito is right - there are some small parts missing and one much important is lenzless way of transformation//// ;D

Nice work, Forest. If we look at the link to the YT video on the TMT that Tito recently posted, we see the following key elements, which your words confirm, I think:
- generator for producing pulsed currents through a primary coil
- resonant coil
- secondary coil
- conductor
- elevated capacitance

Edit: I link to YT vid inserted-

QuoteThe long time secret of Tesla and the dream of tesla that was already working perfectly in his mind is here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k2ROmDiX_Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k2ROmDiX_Q)

Of the above 5 points, I think probably the first three are the most important for us.

One of the things that Teets has mentioned repeatedly is that his apparatus has some elements in common/similar to a Joule Theif, but that it is a different animal. The JT does have a pulsed primary. Perhaps we can borrow from it.

A bifilar secondary properly constructed should prevent reflective losses in the resonant coil (?)

Perhaps we could incorporate one of the voltage multiplying circuits from the Joule Theif thread as part of the generator for producing pulsed currents. I particularly like Groundloop's schematic here:
http://www.overunity.com/6123/jule-thief/msg349634/#msg349634 (http://www.overunity.com/6123/jule-thief/msg349634/#msg349634)

It seems to me this thread has been leading in this direction all along.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 05, 2013, 05:46:23 PM

Bossing tito
Happy 3 kings

Totoalas ;)9

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 05, 2013, 08:09:25 PM

Mr dj tito can i make a request
Pede b try mo neutral at ground sa lupa sa tetsla aparato mo kung gagana
Sana ay ok sa yo

Toto

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on January 05, 2013, 08:22:11 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on January 05, 2013, 11:19:31 AM
Nice work, Forest. If we look at the link to the YT video on the TMT that Tito recently posted, we see the following key elements, which your words confirm, I think:
- generator for producing pulsed currents through a primary coil
- resonant coil
- secondary coil
- conductor
- elevated capacitance

Edit: I link to YT vid inserted-Of the above 5 points, I think probably the first three are the most important for us.

One of the things that Teets has mentioned repeatedly is that his apparatus has some elements in common/similar to a Joule Theif, but that it is a different animal. The JT does have a pulsed primary. Perhaps we can borrow from it.

A bifilar secondary properly constructed should prevent reflective losses in the resonant coil (?)

Perhaps we could incorporate one of the voltage multiplying circuits from the Joule Theif thread as part of the generator for producing pulsed currents. I particularly like Groundloop's schematic here:
http://www.overunity.com/6123/jule-thief/msg349634/#msg349634 (http://www.overunity.com/6123/jule-thief/msg349634/#msg349634)

It seems to me this thread has been leading in this direction all along.
Bob

Good points there Bob!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on January 07, 2013, 02:39:49 PM

I hope s-bodies will find this patent useful for their projects. I stumbled upon it last year and it sits in my comp since and I have no idea what to do with it.
Anyway, since there is no more any hope that our friend - initiator - of - this - thread will get back here again, I have an idea to adapt this thread for storing ideas like this.
I have several more snaps of this patent, just to complete it as a whole; if somebody find it useful, I'm ready to share.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 08, 2013, 03:41:18 AM

Quote from: Qwert on January 05, 2013, 12:43:38 AM
In that above quoted post you forgot your very usual phrase: "GOD BLESS YOU".

In that moment, my head is so hot and feel very angry. >:(

if i will write that, i will look like an insulter. did you get that!? >:(

So you have to consider the moment feeling ok before you conclude ok.

I don't exactly know what is running in your mind why you are studying that senseless thing. ???

ok, try to feel this: i'm so very angry to you and suddenly i'll say to you now

OH YOUR SO KIND WOW ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

GOD BLESS YOU. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

now tell me, what did you feel? :-\

Anyway God Bless you, with permission in my heart ;) :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 08, 2013, 03:54:09 AM

Quote from: ramset on January 05, 2013, 07:55:04 AM
Well at least we are learning some Language skills!!
Pusong bato :-) heart of stone
Teets
Quote
""Actually you can asked some filipinoS what is 27BUBBA IN THE PHILIPPINES ;D JOKE""

And we have a whole new Category for Christians
Christian Sadist!!Or the Evil Christian??

They have some very "personal" and strange greeting habits
Teets
Quote
""but i can release my hand ready for handshake from my sixorgan ;D and from the bottom of my foot,""

Lots of Carnal speak in the Christian sadist tonque? {odd]

I learned that A Christian Sadist Can have a friend [brother?] one minute and the next minute they are mortal enemys,WoW.....?
Apparently that happens all the time to them??

@Forrest
To touch the untouchable,The Shadows on the cave wall..
There are those that will become enlightened when they touch
and those who maybe need some more time in the Cave?

Teetsla
He's got some more learning to do [Me too].

Of one thing I am quite certain,If this were a bible story of Two brothers
Mags and his Evil twin Tito [sorry Mags] ,well we know how the path goes for Evil and greed.

Anything you have Gleaned here from the Christian sadist has for the most part been do to the Suffering he has put his "victim" Mags thru...

THX
Chet
Ps
This is not a flame war,it is just an Observation.
We are all "observers" these days [Quantum Observers}.

Like when I read this Quote I observed the "goose bumps"
Forrest
Quote
Energy amplification comes from Tesla patents. Magnifying transmitter. Why magnifying ? Because it uses resonance to raise potential energy in one system and the ambient is producing the exact opposite copy of that one. Do not attempt to load original dipole source, load the ambient one. I think I was clear enough what Steven Mark, Moray and others did... We are floating in a balanced huge energy dipole...
I see some people are coming to the same proper understanding. Do not assume that one Tesla patent is enough. Even all completed are not enough. Tito is right - there are some small parts missing and one much important is lenzless way of transformation//// ;D

Simple, you are judging me. ;D
Do not judge so you will not be judge!!! >:(

You also insults me, oh how hypocrite christian you are, or whatever you are. ;D

You want me to follow what you want. Whooooo yooooooooooouuuuuuuu :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Sometimes i am joking and for someone it is serious. that's you chet ;D

If i'm evil, what are you :o whooooooww
I think you are the one who need to learn more, cause simple things you cannot sing. bwa hahahahhahhahahhahahahahhaha ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ya, its an observation of a !@#$!#@#$%@#$%#$%#$#$%
and you are only the one who do that ;D

FOR ME GREED IS YOU DON'T GIVE ANYTHING AT ALL! AND I THINK AND BELIEVE THAT IT WASN'T ME ;) I JUST USED MY HEAD AND HEART BALANCELY;)

Wow your so kind and handsome, ;D ;D ;D ;D God bless you, courtesy of qwert ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 08, 2013, 04:08:18 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on January 05, 2013, 12:09:39 AM
Take a stack of 100 $1dollar bills. About an inch thick.

Now say we have 100 of these stacks of $1 bills. 100 x 100 10,000 $1 dollar bills.

Now, undo the wrappers from the 100 stacks, and start throwing it around you, as far as you can in all directions.

Then look around. Look how many there are. Everywhere.

10,000

Thats how many people read this thread in the past few days.

Mags

I think that's how fascinating we are here ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

@stprue
Sorry bro., i can't suddenly stop, cause currently i'm in demand. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on January 08, 2013, 04:10:49 AM

Awww, poor little tito. I think the people here have finally figured him out.
If he had anything at all or knew anything at all, someone would of found it by now.
I think it's time for tito to put up or ...

At least this thread isn't a total waste. I think Mags has contributed more to this thread then tito or anyone else.
I give Mags a lot of credit and respect for his work and putting up with tito's bull.

There are others here too that have contributed and experimented not just Mags but I think he has done the most.
I honestly think that this thread would have gone a ot farther without tito's disinformation and useless comments.

There has been some very good research and experimentation done here that's why I stop by once and a while, just to see how things are going.
The problem I see is that everytime I look here tito has everyone looking in a different location then the last time.
That's why I say that he knows nothing or better yet has nothing. If he did, I know some of the people here would have it by now since
most of the guys here are smarter then tito.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 08, 2013, 04:17:46 AM

Quote from: MrMag on January 08, 2013, 04:10:49 AM
Awww, poor little tito. I think the people here have finally figured him out.
If he had anything at all or knew anything at all, someone would of found it by now.
I think it's time for tito to put up or ...

At least this thread isn't a total waste. I think Mags has contributed more to this thread then tito or anyone else.
I give Mags a lot of credit and respect for his work and putting up with tito's bull.

There are others here too that have contributed and experimented not just Mags but I think he has done the most.
I honestly think that this thread would have gone a ot farther without tito's disinformation and useless comments.

There has been some very good research and experimentation done here that's why I stop by once and a while, just to see how things are going.
The problem I see is that everytime I look here tito has everyone looking in a different location then the last time.
That's why I say that he knows nothing or better yet has nothing. If he did, I know some of the people here would have it by now since
most of the guys here are smarter then tito.

owwwwwhhhh, a smelly thing pop up again. bwa hahahahahahhahahhahahhahha ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ya know what?, when mags made a hole, suddenly a smelly thing is coming out, hope its not from azzzzzzz ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Actually this thread is very waste when you are here. ;D ;D ;D ;D lol bwahahahhhahahhahahhahhahhahahha

No!, you only go here, just to fart :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

There i see ya, you pop up when you smell some negatives ha, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yo know what?, i've done nothing to you but you are doing this to me. :) got that huh ???

by the way i'm not interested with your credit. hahahhahhahhahahhahhahhhah ;D
and if they are smarter than me then that's good, very good, and i'm happy for them.

and you, you don't have :P :P :P :P

Do you think i will put the the real thing here with the smelly thing you are here? ;D i'm not smart if i did that ;D ;D ;D ;D 8) lol

now qwert, will i write my usual phrase here? ;D ;D ;D ;D

love you buddy ;D what do you think qwert?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on January 08, 2013, 09:59:39 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on January 08, 2013, 10:04:07 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 08, 2013, 03:41:18 AM... ...

Oops... You are here again; on your recent post you promised that that's your last post; as usual, you don't keep your promises; you give something else AND something instead, but never what you promised earlier..

That's obvious to normally clever human that my hint about your usual phrase was my sarkasm only.

And how do I feel now? I feel nothing: as I said above, I consider you a person who don't keep promises, and I treat such guys just as a thin air: they are not serious people, so they don't exist to me.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nievesoliveras on January 08, 2013, 11:11:22 AM

I thought that I could be wrong on this post.
But as the things are now
I think that I was right back then.
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg259817/#msg259817

Jesus

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on January 08, 2013, 11:42:08 AM

Quote from: nievesoliveras on January 08, 2013, 11:11:22 AM
I thought that I could be wrong on this post.
But as the things are now
I think that I was right back then.
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg259817/#msg259817 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg259817/#msg259817)

Jesus

You are exactly right and that was over 2 years ago!!
He must think that the people here are not very smart. I feel sorry for people who need attention and have to lie to get it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 08, 2013, 12:37:02 PM

I believe Tito has probably improved and refined his device since he first made it 3 years ago, as would any inventor of an innovative prototype. This is the way these kinds of technologies develop. Through this developmental process, Tito's understanding of his apparatus has without doubt deepened and clarified itself.

As a result, he has undoubtedly refined his "clues", and now has generously told us to focus on the Tesla Magnifying Transmitter.

I don't have a problem with that, and I don't think it has nullified all his other clues. I personally don't think we've been led astray. I do think we are closer than ever to the concepts and theory behind Tito's device. Tito didn't give it all away in one shot. That's his choice, and I respect that, especially given his circumstances. But he has chosen to lead like a teacher, to help us understand the concepts, in order to experiment and build.

There are some who have come to understand this apparatus and build it, if you read past comments. For those of us still on the way, I honestly believe we are so much closer now to building this thing than we've ever been.

So, if I have to be the guy that goes against the majority, I will, acknowledging that we've been handed a gift that is close to realization.

Thanks Teets!
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: shylo on January 08, 2013, 07:02:51 PM

I just found this thread, am currently on page 13
Is it safe to say Tito has'nt revealed his secret yet?
On page 2 I think , there's a Tesla schematic, I am doing this before I even seen it ,
You can gain extra , just by tapping into it, I use shorting the coils tequni
My problem is I don't know how to use the stored CAP's
shylo

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 08, 2013, 07:35:38 PM

Hey Bob

Here is my take. Tito has asked for 10 million for a working device. 2009? Then 3 million some time back. Other times as well.

Does that sound like anyone that would lead you in the 'right' direction? For free???

3 years. Read this pat. and add a few things(secrets). Study that pat. and add a twist. Read Colorado Springs notes, its in there. Yet no one has found it yet.

All of what he claims are clues and hints, are all very much available on the net. Just some of us hadnt seen or known some or most of them at the time.

Its pretty easy for someone to say they know the secrets to Tesla, SM, Kapanadze, Smith, Bedini, Bearden, and say that they all just need a twist, let alone knowing just 1. All while claiming to not know electronics. Yet it seems he does. What is the truth???? And is any of it true????

I came into these threads of Titos boasting, claiming he was teasing everyone. I find myself back at square 1. Im not going to get into this again. All of the time and money I spent is wasted. Sure I learned a few things, but none of it produced OU. Thats like trying to build a space ship for 3 years and ending up with what i have now. Junk.

If he has something, I bet the house that it will never be shown here. Or, he has nothing at all. Think about it.

He keeps saying I figured out something and others have also. Where are they? Forest is still here. Im still here. Chet is still here. If anyone produces a working device from these hints and clues, I would be very surprised. Very. But grateful in the end. I wouldnt hold my breath.

Like I stated a few posts ago. Its all just about 'fun for Tito'. Look at his posts. The last ones. Its all just a joke. I wonder what other forums he does this to also.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 08, 2013, 08:14:16 PM

Quote from: shylo on January 08, 2013, 07:02:51 PM
I just found this thread, am currently on page 13
Is it safe to say Tito has'nt revealed his secret yet?
On page 2 I think , there's a Tesla schematic, I am doing this before I even seen it ,
You can gain extra , just by tapping into it, I use shorting the coils tequni
My problem is I don't know how to use the stored CAP's
shylo

Hey Shylo

I dont believe I even knew of coil shorting at that time. Or even to introduce the idea in a Tesla coil even recently.

Can you show us what your working on? ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 08, 2013, 08:57:18 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on January 08, 2013, 07:35:38 PM
Hey Bob

Here is my take. Tito has asked for 10 million for a working device. 2009? Then 3 million some time back. Other times as well.

Does that sound like anyone that would lead you in the 'right' direction? For free???

3 years. Read this pat. and add a few things(secrets). Study that pat. and add a twist. Read Colorado Springs notes, its in there. Yet no one has found it yet.

All of what he claims are clues and hints, are all very much available on the net. Just some of us hadnt seen or known some or most of them at the time.

Its pretty easy for someone to say they know the secrets to Tesla, SM, Kapanadze, Smith, Bedini, Bearden, and say that they all just need a twist, let alone knowing just 1. All while claiming to not know electronics. Yet it seems he does. What is the truth? ??? And is any of it true? ???

I came into these threads of Titos boasting, claiming he was teasing everyone. I find myself back at square 1. Im not going to get into this again. All of the time and money I spent is wasted. Sure I learned a few things, but none of it produced OU. Thats like trying to build a space ship for 3 years and ending up with what i have now. Junk.

If he has something, I bet the house that it will never be shown here. Or, he has nothing at all. Think about it.

He keeps saying I figured out something and others have also. Where are they? Forest is still here. Im still here. Chet is still here. If anyone produces a working device from these hints and clues, I would be very surprised. Very. But grateful in the end. I wouldnt hold my breath.

Like I stated a few posts ago. Its all just about 'fun for Tito'. Look at his posts. The last ones. Its all just a joke. I wonder what other forums he does this to also.

Mags

oh! ouch! :(

it seems getting worst every time i make post here just because i just shred a light into the right direction isn't it? and i'm sad about it. :(

when i was started in this thread, my main purpose is really to share and you know it bud, i've even gave my first schematic just as that.

now as time goes by , i see lots of people that really don't deserve the real thing, and that's the start of my play. they really change my attitude sorry. :)

if i asked some money, do you think i took them?, even qwert volunteer to give money with no obligation, what?, did i accept them? huh! >:(
your conclusion again are wrong.

just because i thought it is new year and its 3 years already that's why i decided to light up the way. i thought in that my little way will lead many to love me more but it made many more angry to me :o ouch.
if you made some experiment and you didn't made a success, is that my fault, of course that is part of your study. ???

soooooo much things to say but i really can't express very well. ok what ever you want to think that's yours. :)

i'm still in confuse why God gave it to me, but there are lots of things fighting in my mind. :)

Yes, i believe i have done lots of wrong attitude and sorry to all of that everyone. :)

its not healthy to make angry to everyone, so to anyone that i made them angry. SORRY I APOLOGIZE :( [size=78%] [/size]

i'm not boasting that was just my style to fit in. like what you said.
yes i make jokes but not all times. :)

But here is what i'm going to leave to all mankind to good or bad people AND I'M SERIOUS: Again i will shred a light to the path,

THE REAL THING IS THE RADIANT ENERGY PATTENT!!!! :) YES YOU REALLY NEED A LITTLE MODIFICATION.
Tesla, moray, sm, etc. done that already.
And sorry i will not anymore give the detail which is not my real plan. :)

And now since many want me to leave, well i will leave but please don't post things that can hurt ok. :)
MUCH MORE BETTER TO NOT POST IF ITS JUST NONE SENSE OR JUST TO MAKE INSULT :)

YOU KNOW WHAT MAGS, STUDY YOUR SELF WHY YOU ARE VERY ANGRY. :)
i just lighted a path! >:( :-[
i just lighted a path! >:( :-X
i just lighted a path! >:( :-\
i just lighted a path! >:( :-*
i just lighted a path! >:( :'(

GOD BLESS EVERYONE AND GOODBYE ;)

PS: AND TO MY FRIEND BOB SORRY BUDDY, I CAN'T DECIDE, I'M CONFUSED CAUSE MY ENEMYS ARE ALSO YOUR FRIENDS. :-\ :( :( :(

ITS ALL UP TO YOU NOW EVERYONE JUST SCREW IT UP BUT PLEASE DON'T BLAME ME!!!

@EVERYONE
I GUESS ITS MY MISTAKE AGAIN
I JUST SHOWED THE MAGNIFYING TRANSMITTER JUST FOR YOU TO KNOW HOW IT WORKS BUT THE REAL THING IS REALLY IN THE

RADIANT ENERGY PATENT OK, I THINK ITS CLEAR NOW.

ONE THING MORE WE DON'T NEED TO BUILD THE MAGNIFYING TRANSMITTER OK,
THERE ARE LOTS OF VIBRATION NOW AROUND THE WORLD.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 08, 2013, 09:37:49 PM

Quote from: MrMag on January 08, 2013, 11:42:08 AM
You are exactly right and that was over 2 years ago!!
He must think that the people here are not very smart. I feel sorry for people who need attention and have to lie to get it.

YOU AGAIN :o , IF YOUR SMART WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE FART?

OH I SEE YOU WANT TO MAKE ALSO OTHERS TO MAKE ANGRY TO ME, :P :P :P

GOT YA! ;D

ANYWAY ITS OK. ;)
GO MAKE SOME DECIPLES ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 08, 2013, 09:42:27 PM

Quote from: Qwert on January 08, 2013, 10:04:07 AM

Oops... You are here again; on your recent post you promised that that's your last post; as usual, you don't keep your promises; you give something else AND something instead, but never what you promised earlier..

That's obvious to normally clever human that my hint about your usual phrase was my sarkasm only.

And how do I feel now? I feel nothing: as I said above, I consider you a person who don't keep promises, and I treat such guys just as a thin air: they are not serious people, so they don't exist to me.

SORRY I'M STILL IN DEMAND ;D ;D ;D

AND YES I'M NOT CLEVER AS YOU, MR BRILLIANT.

DON'T WORRY YOUR DREAM WILL BE FULFILLED IF THERE'S NO MORE NEED TO POST FOR ME OK ;)

IF I DON'T EXIST, WHY YOU TALK TO ME :o YOU REALLY A BRILLIANT. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 08, 2013, 09:49:42 PM

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

OK I'LL STOP NOW. >:( >:( >:(

DO NOT POST ANYMORE OK! YOU ARE HURTING ME!!! >:(

I JUST LIGHTED THE PATH! >:(
I JUST LIGHTED THE PATH! >:(
I JUST LIGHTED THE PATH! >:(

GOODBYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

PS:
@EVERYONE
SORRY, JUST STUDY, EXPERIMENT, AND MAKE RESEARCH OK? :)

Maybe the next time i post here is just to show my video.
well, that if don't change my mind. ;)
BYE :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 08, 2013, 11:16:25 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 08, 2013, 08:57:18 PM

it seems getting worst every time i make post here just because i just shred a light into the right direction isn't it? and i'm sad about it. :(

when i was started in this thread, my main purpose is really to share and you know it bud, i've even gave my first schematic just as that.

now as time goes by , i see lots of people that really don't deserve the real thing, and that's the start of my play. they really change my attitude sorry. :)

if i asked some money, do you think i took them?, even qwert volunteer to give money with no obligation, what?, did i accept them? huh! >:(
your conclusion again are wrong.

just because i thought it is new year and its 3 years already that's why i decided to light up the way. i thought in that my little way will lead many to love me more but it made many more angry to me :o ouch.
if you made some experiment and you didn't made a success, is that my fault, of course that is part of your study. ???

soooooo much things to say but i really can't express very well. ok what ever you want to think that's yours. :)

i'm still in confuse why God gave it to me, but there are lots of things fighting in my mind. :)

Yes, i believe i have done lots of wrong attitude and sorry to all of that everyone. :)

its not healthy to make angry to everyone, so to anyone that i made them angry. SORRY I APOLOGIZE :( [size=78%] [/size]

i'm not boasting that was just my style to fit in. like what you said.
yes i make jokes but not all times. :)

But here is what i'm going to leave to all mankind to good or bad people AND I'M SERIOUS: Again i will shred a light to the path,

THE REAL THING IS THE RADIANT ENERGY PATTENT!!!! :) YES YOU REALLY NEED A LITTLE MODIFICATION.
Tesla, moray, sm, etc. done that already.
And sorry i will not anymore give the detail which is not my real plan. :)

And now since many want me to leave, well i will leave but please don't post things that can hurt ok. :)
MUCH MORE BETTER TO NOT POST IF ITS JUST NONE SENSE OR JUST TO MAKE INSULT :)

YOU KNOW WHAT MAGS, STUDY YOUR SELF WHY YOU ARE VERY ANGRY. :)
i just lighted a path! >:( :-[
i just lighted a path! >:( :-X
i just lighted a path! >:( :-\
i just lighted a path! >:( :-*
i just lighted a path! >:( :'(

GOD BLESS EVERYONE AND GOODBYE ;)

PS: AND TO MY FRIEND BOB SORRY BUDDY, I CAN'T DECIDE, I'M CONFUSED CAUSE MY ENEMYS ARE ALSO YOUR FRIENDS. :-\ :( :( :(

ITS ALL UP TO YOU NOW EVERYONE JUST SCREW IT UP BUT PLEASE DON'T BLAME ME!!!

@EVERYONE
I GUESS ITS MY MISTAKE AGAIN
I JUST SHOWED THE MAGNIFYING TRANSMITTER JUST FOR YOU TO KNOW HOW IT WORKS BUT THE REAL THING IS REALLY IN THE

RADIANT ENERGY PATENT OK, I THINK ITS CLEAR NOW.

ONE THING MORE WE DON'T NEED TO BUILD THE MAGNIFYING TRANSMITTER OK,
THERE ARE LOTS OF VIBRATION NOW AROUND THE WORLD.

"it seems getting worst every time i make post here just because i just shred a light into the right direction isn't it? and i'm sad about it. :( "

Is it only relevant that 'you' feel hurt or sad? ;)

"when i was started in this thread, my main purpose is 'really' to share and you know it bud, i've even gave my first schematic just as that."

Maybe it 'really' was. Maybe it really wasnt. How can I tell??? ;)

Yes, your first and only schematic. When I brought it up later, you tried to tell everyone to not worry about that circuit. You posted asking for Stefan to delete it and your posts.
There might be something to it. But no twist included. ::) I tried it. I suppose it doesnt work with a standard transformer, at least as shown.

"now as time goes by , i see lots of people that really don't deserve the real thing, and that's the start of my play. they really change my attitude sorry. :) "

Now as time goes by??? Apparently you have thought this all along. Ever since several posts after you posted that schematic.

i see lots of people that really don't deserve the real thing???? So thats why you have regressed to saying that the 'radiant' patent is the way now????? Because we dont deserve 'the real thing' ????????? So I was right that you are selling us a crystal radio now, instead of the 'real thing' . ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Funny thing is, just the other day you said that the 'transformer is 'the' secret. SM, Bedini. Hendershot, Smith. Whats so funny about it is the radiant receiver doesnt have a transformer. ;) ::) But here below, you say that Radiant is their secret. ::) You have a strange sense of 'truth' Tito. ;)

"THE REAL THING IS THE RADIANT ENERGY PATTENT!!!! :) YES YOU REALLY NEED A LITTLE MODIFICATION.
Tesla, moray, sm, etc. done that already.
And sorry i will not anymore give the detail which is not my real plan. :) "

::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) "which is not my real plan" That is boasting. ;)

"PS: AND TO MY FRIEND BOB SORRY BUDDY, I CAN'T DECIDE, I'M CONFUSED CAUSE MY ENEMYS ARE ALSO YOUR FRIENDS. :-\ :( :( :( "

Yeah, sorry Bob. But he wasnt going to reveal the 'real' anyways. ;) Can you see what Im saying Bob. ;) Maybe he can keep you around for another 3 years Bob. ;)

"RADIANT ENERGY PATENT OK, I THINK ITS 'CLEAR' NOW."

But yesterday it was the 'transformer'. It wasnt 'clear' then, was it???? ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 09, 2013, 01:43:23 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on January 08, 2013, 11:16:25 PM
"it seems getting worst every time i make post here just because i just shred a light into the right direction isn't it? and i'm sad about it. :( "

Is it only relevant that 'you' feel hurt or sad? ;)

"when i was started in this thread, my main purpose is 'really' to share and you know it bud, i've even gave my first schematic just as that."

Maybe it 'really' was. Maybe it really wasnt. How can I tell??? ;)

Yes, your first and only schematic. When I brought it up later, you tried to tell everyone to not worry about that circuit. You posted asking for Stefan to delete it and your posts.
There might be something to it. But no twist included. ::) I tried it. I suppose it doesnt work with a standard transformer, at least as shown.

"now as time goes by , i see lots of people that really don't deserve the real thing, and that's the start of my play. they really change my attitude sorry. :) "

Now as time goes by??? Apparently you have thought this all along. Ever since several posts after you posted that schematic.

i see lots of people that really don't deserve the real thing? ??? So thats why you have regressed to saying that the 'radiant' patent is the way now? ??? ? Because we dont deserve 'the real thing' ??? ??? ??? So I was right that you are selling us a crystal radio now, instead of the 'real thing' . ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Funny thing is, just the other day you said that the 'transformer is 'the' secret. SM, Bedini. Hendershot, Smith. Whats so funny about it is the radiant receiver doesnt have a transformer. ;) ::) But here below, you say that Radiant is their secret. ::) You have a strange sense of 'truth' Tito. ;)

"THE REAL THING IS THE RADIANT ENERGY PATTENT!!!! :) YES YOU REALLY NEED A LITTLE MODIFICATION.
Tesla, moray, sm, etc. done that already.
And sorry i will not anymore give the detail which is not my real plan. :) "

::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) "which is not my real plan" That is boasting. ;)

"PS: AND TO MY FRIEND BOB SORRY BUDDY, I CAN'T DECIDE, I'M CONFUSED CAUSE MY ENEMYS ARE ALSO YOUR FRIENDS. :-\ :( :( :( "

Yeah, sorry Bob. But he wasnt going to reveal the 'real' anyways. ;) Can you see what Im saying Bob. ;) Maybe he can keep you around for another 3 years Bob. ;)

"RADIANT ENERGY PATENT OK, I THINK ITS 'CLEAR' NOW."

But yesterday it was the 'transformer'. It wasnt 'clear' then, was it? ??? ;)

Mags

ouch again >:(

you really don't get it do you. what ever! >:(

soooo many, hard to explain again. ???

ok Bob do not follow me. is that ok to you mags >:(

Now!, Yes of course the transformer is the secret using the radiant energy patent, did you get that?.
oh i see you want me to elaborate huh. your clever hahahahhahhahhhah

ok, i'll just say, that is my plan for you not to think that i'm boasting, is that ok to you now? :)

sorry i will not repeat and answer all of those anymore ok?.

The REAL AND IMPORTANT THING IS GOD KNOWS MY HEART. :)
I DON'T CARE WHAT EVER YOU SAY, FOR IT IS YOU THAT GIVE WRONG CONCLUSION OR BAD MEANING OK. :)

DO WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE AND ME TOO THAT'S IT!!!

ENOUGH I'M FINISHED :-X

I'M OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ;D

Mags my friend, study carefully the moray device cause that is the real thing! :)
transform the kick ok ;) with tubes? of course not! that's an old style, use the oppa gangnam style. hehehehehehhehehheheh joke :-*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0
BYE FRIEND ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 09, 2013, 02:19:31 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 09, 2013, 01:43:23 AM

ouch again >:(

you really don't get it do you. what ever! >:(

soooo many, hard to explain again. ???

ok Bob do not follow me. is that ok to you mags >:(

Now!, Yes of course the transformer is the secret using the radiant energy patent, did you get that?.
oh i see you want me to elaborate huh. your clever hahahahhahhahhhah

sorry i will not repeat and answer all of those anymore ok?.

The REAL AND IMPORTANT THING IS GOD KNOWS MY HEART. :)
I DON'T CARE WHAT EVER YOU SAY, FOR IT IS YOU THAT GIVE WRONG CONCLUSION OR BAD MEANING OK. :)

DO WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE AND ME TOO THAT'S IT!!!

ENOUGH I'M FINISHED :-X

I'M OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ;D

Mags my friend, study carefully the moray device cause that is the real thing! :)
BYE FRIEND ;)

"ouch again >:( "

Truth hurts I guess.

"ok Bob do not follow me. is that ok to you mags >:( "

Bob is a free man. He can do as he wishes. Everyone 'deserves' that right. Im just giving him fair warning. ;)

"Now!, Yes of course the transformer is the secret using the radiant energy patent, did you get that?.
oh i see you want me to elaborate huh. your clever hahahahhahhahhhah"

Yeah, I got it. But it is still a secret transformer. Without it, the radiant is just a crystal radio. I know crystal radios, in case you havnt seen that I said so 2 times. Got That?
So in fact, if we "clearly' study the radiant patents, as you have been saying, it wont get us any closer to the 'Transformer' that we need to make it all work. ::)

"The REAL AND IMPORTANT THING IS GOD KNOWS MY HEART. :)
I DON'T CARE WHAT EVER YOU SAY, FOR IT IS YOU THAT GIVE WRONG CONCLUSION OR BAD MEANING OK. :) "

Your heart? You are leading people on. Like a cult. All for your pleasure and fun. Im not wrong. Yesterday it was the secret transformer, and today it is 'clearly' the radiant patent, and now you are telling me to study Moray. ??? Its just a never ending circle. Tomorrow the radiant wont be the 'clear way' It will be Hendershot. ::)
Leading the flock astray each day. ;)

What do ya think Bob? ;) Am I wrong or what? ;)

"Mags my friend, study carefully the moray device cause that is the real thing! :)
BYE FRIEND ;) "

Tito, honestly, I have been a friend to you. But when it comes to what you have been doing here, I cannot agree with it. It is wrong. If you keep doing it, I will keep saying it.
If it hurts you by me helping people to not waste their time here, unless they just want to just laugh and giggle, and talk about farts ::) and sixorgans ::) , then Im sorry, but I know how these people are going to 'feel' after a while if they are expecting any real OU tips, and all they get are questions that dont get answered? But like a 'friend', if someone does ask a relevant question, you disappear for a while or ignore? What kind of friend is that? Not many questions anymore. People know they wont get answers. That is not my doing, it is yours. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 09, 2013, 02:25:34 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 09, 2013, 01:43:23 AM

transform the kick ok ;) with tubes? of course not! that's an old style,

Ok, so no tubes. Transistors? But still no transformer that makes it all work. Still useless tips. Without the transformer, we still got nothing.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 09, 2013, 02:36:29 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on January 09, 2013, 02:19:31 AM
"ouch again >:( "

Truth hurts I guess.

"ok Bob do not follow me. is that ok to you mags >:( "

Bob is a free man. He can do as he wishes. Everyone 'deserves' that right. Im just giving him fair warning. ;)

"Now!, Yes of course the transformer is the secret using the radiant energy patent, did you get that?.
oh i see you want me to elaborate huh. your clever hahahahhahhahhhah"

Yeah, I got it. But it is still a secret transformer. Without it, the radiant is just a crystal radio. I know crystal radios, in case you havnt seen that I said so 2 times. Got That?
So in fact, if we "clearly' study the radiant patents, as you have been saying, it wont get us any closer to the 'Transformer' that we need to make it all work. ::)

"The REAL AND IMPORTANT THING IS GOD KNOWS MY HEART. :)
I DON'T CARE WHAT EVER YOU SAY, FOR IT IS YOU THAT GIVE WRONG CONCLUSION OR BAD MEANING OK. :) "

Your heart? You are leading people on. Like a cult. All for your pleasure and fun. Im not wrong. Yesterday it was the secret transformer, and today it is 'clearly' the radiant patent, and now you are telling me to study Moray. ??? Its just a never ending circle. Tomorrow the radiant wont be the 'clear way' It will be Hendershot. ::)
Leading the flock astray each day. ;)

What do ya think Bob? ;) Am I wrong or what? ;)

"Mags my friend, study carefully the moray device cause that is the real thing! :)
BYE FRIEND ;) "

Tito, honestly, I have been a friend to you. But when it comes to what you have been doing here, I cannot agree with it. It is wrong. If you keep doing it, I will keep saying it.
If it hurts you by me helping people to not waste their time here, unless they just want to just laugh and giggle, and talk about farts ::) and sixorgans ::) , then Im sorry, but I know how these people are going to 'feel' after a while if they are expecting any real OU tips, and all they get are questions that dont get answered? But like a 'friend', if someone does ask a relevant question, you disappear for a while or ignore? What kind of friend is that? Not many questions anymore. People know they wont get answers. That is not my doing, it is yours. ;)

Mags

ok, i understand you bud, but the truth is i just really lighted the path, the truth, not completely but that is the way to it.
and since i already showed it. that's it

i don't answers some question because they might get it. ;D
especially you, you are clever. hahahahahahhahhahhh lol.

i will stop now, don't be lazy ok, study it, i showed it already. that's enough friend! :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: shylo on January 09, 2013, 04:44:04 AM

@mags,
Hi the post is by Goat on page 10 #148. The 2 contacts in the Tesla is what I consider shorting, connect those leads to a priary coil ,that's sandwhiched between 2 other coils, those 2 coils are connected parallel and fed to a diode bridge and that feeds the cap bank.
This doesn't cost any extra energy to charge the caps.
But how do I use the stored caps?? Can you just pulse them into a battery to charge it?? Also at what voltage and how many farads??
Thanks shylo

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 09, 2013, 06:54:06 AM

tito

while you are talking 3 years Stepanov patented your circuit >:(
isn't that a oppa gangnam style ? :P
or ...you are Stepanov... :o

I would like you to help me replicating Hubbard device later .....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on January 09, 2013, 09:47:52 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 09, 2013, 02:36:29 AM

ok, i understand you bud, but the truth is i just really lighted the path, the truth, not completely but that is the way to it.
and since i already showed it. that's it

i don't answers some question because they might get it. ;D
especially you, you are clever. hahahahahahhahhahhh lol.

i will stop now, don't be lazy ok, study it, i showed it already. that's enough friend! :)

tito don't even bother with this guy, not worth your time.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on January 09, 2013, 10:38:02 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 08, 2013, 09:42:27 PM

SORRY I'M STILL IN DEMAND ;D ;D ;D

AND YES I'M NOT CLEVER AS YOU, MR BRILLIANT.

DON'T WORRY YOUR DREAM WILL BE FULFILLED IF THERE'S NO MORE NEED TO POST FOR ME OK ;)

IF I DON'T EXIST, WHY YOU TALK TO ME :o YOU REALLY A BRILLIANT. :)

I'm not brilliant; just normally clever, or "street-smart", nothing else. And who says that I'm talking to Tito?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 09, 2013, 11:47:40 AM

Just to cite you guys an example
Steve rejuso uploaded his tubig powered machine which he installed in a subdivision for street lighting
after a year , his posts and his street lights are nowhere to be found.... He had migrated to Singapoere for greener pasteure
The good thing that happened ....LOTS OF BATTERY CELLS HAD BEEN DEVELOPED ALUM FOR ONE .... NO LOSS AT ALL
the moral of the story..... Tito has given us a window opportunity and 3 or 4 had been developed since ...... AVISO motors kept improving
and we ll all share the fruits of free energy sooner or later.....
Just stay focus ......
If somebody can summarize and collect all the data in this thread . newcomers can test verify and validate each claim methodically
If all the comments are what you say fruits of your knowledge base then document it ......
Just a suggestion for those that have the time to collate the 3 years SAGA .....
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 16, 2013, 04:13:55 AM

:) :) :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-PParSmwtE&playnext=1&list=PL2ix4jZAJHcR4cAJEyoUF3B3TRSVhGRRe&feature=results_main
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsqxrxVR6pk&feature=endscreen&list=PL2ix4jZAJHcR4cAJEyoUF3B3TRSVhGRRe&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPdf3cGrqHg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B61DU7yEsPM&playnext=1&list=PL36D7ABECE2AC9666
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GVLnyTdqkg&list=PL36D7ABECE2AC9666
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_239866&feature=iv&src_vid=0GVLnyTdqkg&v=526xslmO6Ds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdPoOAVAuFQ

:-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 16, 2013, 07:21:12 AM

Ang dami naman wala bang trailer lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 16, 2013, 07:30:25 AM

Musical tesla coils dance of the flum fairy by voltsmeister

Enjoy

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on January 16, 2013, 02:42:15 PM

@tito

kumusta na ang diabetes mo akin lalu yatang lumalala kc ung ihi ko nilalanggam..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 16, 2013, 09:07:34 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on January 16, 2013, 02:42:15 PM
@tito

kumusta na ang diabetes mo akin lalu yatang lumalala kc ung ihi ko nilalanggam..

buti natanong mo yan brad. :)

inum ka lang ng pinakuluang dahon ng guyabano at abokado palagi or kung walang abokado kahit guyabano lang or pwede mo ring lagyan ng dahon
nang oregano.

at mag exercise ka para sa cardio vascular mo. jogging ka nang mga 15 minutes yung mild lang na pag jojoging.
pero una mag pa strech strech ka muna tapos walking at jogging na para di mabigla ang katawan mo.
wag masyadong sobra baka atakihin ka naman. :) ;)

Tapos talagang magbawas ka nang kanin at wag kanang iinom ng softdrinks. pero tignan morin baka sobra naman ang pagka wala mo nang sugar, kailangan ma monitor mo rin yon. pag nan lambot ka dapat alam mo kung ano ang sobra o kulang sa kinain mo.

dalawang bagay kunware naparame ang kain mo at nanlambot ka, ibig sabihin sobra ka sa sugar. inum ka nang gamot.
pero pag di naman sobra kain mo nang sugar at nanlambot ka ibig sabihin kulang ka sa sugar, so pwede kang inum ng sofdrink ng kaunti.

at pag nag papahinga ka basa ka ng biblia
Hindi free energy ang solusyon sa mundong ito kundi si Jesus
manalangin ka sa kanya at humingi ka ng tawad sa lahat ng kasalanan mo at humingi ka sa kanya ng pang unawa sa kanyang mga salita
hingin morin sa kanya na maalaman mo ang tunay na daan ng kaligtasan.

pakatandaan mo, MABUTI ANG DIOS.

Pangit man ang imahe ko dito, ang mahalaga kay Jesus tayo tumingin wag saken ok ;)
hanggang sa muli kaibigan. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 16, 2013, 09:28:02 PM

Ysn tayong pinoy
Pananalig ang portante
Ang sskit sy paramdam lang
:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on January 16, 2013, 09:45:17 PM

if an object was at absolute zero temperature then even a slightest glance at it is seething with energy. where are we going huh? you all need to re-route your brains to cope with this. or in programmers language 'Else' deal with it.

true life is not getting more energy from what you put in but what amount of energy that can be stored. storage is the key to visiting the stars. you have to build a perfect starship in order to get all your answers, why? because that is the whole point of living things, trying to survive.

common sense. you have 4 billion years to get it right. that's it.

I am here only to guide you nothing 'else'

unless you build that perfect starship you'll never have anything over me.

lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on January 16, 2013, 11:20:28 PM

just so you know, a perfect starship has no doors or windows.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 17, 2013, 04:52:17 PM

let me see....
you have a thick rope
once you have and idea to attach rope to two trees and is now hanging freely between them
but you have second rope and no more trees ::)

suddenly you have idea.... two strong men pulling rope each on his side both are the same strength.....

is there any difference ? ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on January 18, 2013, 10:47:50 AM

@tito

Salamat sa paalala.. Anung mayayari kapag masyado ng malala ang diabetes?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 18, 2013, 06:29:32 PM

Rey herbal kung nass pinas ka
3 Tspn cinamon powder 1 tsp turmeric in a glas of water tedted 100 p eggective
Payong kapatid
The best buko watermaintain ph level in the body
All illness tjat the sevret to longevity
Msgne umfer ur watch and placef pulse in wrisy for gast virculayion
Jope this help

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 18, 2013, 11:44:13 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on January 18, 2013, 10:47:50 AM
@tito

Salamat sa paalala.. Anung mayayari kapag masyado ng malala ang diabetes?

Well base sa research at experience ko, dahil ito rin ang kinamatay ng tatay ko.

una lalapot ang dugo mo at magkakaroon maraming komplikasyon sa mga ibat ibang parte ng mga vital organ mo tulad ng bato, puso at baga.

pngalawa di kaagad gagaling ang mga sugat mo kaya ang iba e pinuputulan pag nsugat n sa paa.

dalangin mong hwag sa sixorgan ka masugat baka maputulan ka. ;D joke.

yung kay ka rey herbal nga pala, subuk naring mabisa sa diabetis, subukan morin. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on January 19, 2013, 12:35:13 AM

@tito

Waahh! Ayoko pa mamatay.. Nakakatakot pala ang mga pwedeng makuhang sakit sa diabetes. D na nga ako iinum ng softdrinks at kahit anung matatamis. Mukhang natauhan ako sa mga sinabi mu akala ko kc d malalang sakit ang diabetes. Mag eexercise na nga rin ako sa umaga. Sana d mangyari sakin ang nangyari sa tatay mu. Ayokong mapu2lan ng birds.Salamat uli at nalaman ko ang mga komplikasyong dala ng diabetes. Pero sana d pa huli ang lahat at magamot pa ang diabetes ko.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on January 19, 2013, 04:03:52 AM

Wow!!! Dami pala Pinoy d2 sa OU.com.. Pwede na cguro tyo mag start ng isang serious na project? anu mga sir? d2 nlang tyo mag post ng pictures at video? muka kasing iba ang image natin d2 mga sir... ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 19, 2013, 04:54:40 AM

Quote from: DimaWari on January 19, 2013, 04:03:52 AM
Wow!!! Dami pala Pinoy d2 sa OU.com.. Pwede na cguro tyo mag start ng isang serious na project? anu mga sir? d2 nlang tyo mag post ng pictures at video? muka kasing iba ang image natin d2 mga sir... ;D

Pinoy henyo :) :) ;) :)4

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on January 19, 2013, 05:08:30 AM

Hehehe mukang masisira ang image ni Rizal d2... What do you think sir, nag kita kaya si Jose Rizal at Nikola Tesla?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on January 19, 2013, 05:20:24 AM

Anung kinalaman ni Jose Rizal d2? Kaya naman ako napadpad d2 sa ou forum dahil nand2 mga kauri ko. D2 sa amin wala akong kaibigan na kaparehas ng hilig ko kaya d2 lagi ako nagpupunta para may makausap kahit hirap mag ingles.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on January 19, 2013, 06:08:05 AM

Nku Sorry po sir, just wondering lang po.. but if they did... that's something that we should be proud of, I think.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on January 19, 2013, 06:10:56 AM

BTW mga sir, Any progress po sa mga progjects or build nyo? Ngayon po mukang na stuck na ko sa RomeroUK Muller Dynamo....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on January 19, 2013, 07:35:04 AM

hehe na stuck kana ba try mo ung chas campbell system mas madaling gawin un. Ako naman balak ko gumawa ng transformer made of capacitor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on January 19, 2013, 09:56:36 AM

Thanks Sir, pero gusto ko po sana matapos yun dynamo bgo ko gawin ang ibang project, tulad ng KapanadZe generator.. may bagong mga ideas kc ako na gustong subukan...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on January 19, 2013, 08:33:15 PM

Cge goodluck sa project u :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 20, 2013, 07:49:34 PM

Pwede na tayong mag pinokyo ;D

Alam nyo mga bro. di nyo magagawa ang mga binabalak nyong free energy device kung di nyo alam ang amplifiying technique. :)

at yung kay tesla ang pinaka maganda,"yung receiver nya sa pierce arrow" na nagawa ni moray at SM shoemart. ;D

Di kasi naniniwala tung mga kanong to e. ginagalit pa ako. >:( ;D

At kung paano yun? Yun ang secret. ;D

Pagbibili ko muna bago ko ituturo sa lahat. ;D okay ba mga tols? ;)

AT wag nyo kong tatanungin tungkol doon dahil di ako sasagot . ;D hehehehehehhehehehehehehe

pero at least ito ang tip ko sa inyo, "Meron sa circuit arrangement na nag aamplify" ;) 8)

cge goodluck sa inyo mga tols.

alis muna pinokyo ha. lol ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 20, 2013, 09:03:10 PM

Ang jmportante buhay ka hehe
Intay n lang kami sa SM
Discount lol :)

hv negative dc charger yt imtotob pati fungi patay hehehe

malapit na b sa katotohanan heheheh ninong tits

at least diy and multi purpose hihihi :) ;) :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 21, 2013, 03:09:18 AM

Quote from: totoalas on January 20, 2013, 09:03:10 PM
Ang jmportante buhay ka hehe
Intay n lang kami sa SM
Discount lol :)

hv negative dc charger yt imtotob pati fungi patay hehehe

malapit na b sa katotohanan heheheh ninong tits

at least diy and multi purpose hihihi :) ;) :)

Actually kahit yung kay bedini at kapanadze pwede hindi lang nila talaga pinapakita yung talagang technique.

lahat ng mga ginawang device sa fe pwede.

eto pansinin mo bro. bakit pag off and on ng kuryente malakas ang ikot ng contador. :o san galing yun? ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 21, 2013, 03:58:37 AM

Gets ko na sabog nga metro ko pinalitan tuloy ng digital lol

Frequency and caps the way of the future

Sa mystical may panawagan namn sa alitaptap hehehe

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 21, 2013, 06:17:30 AM

Moderator please close this thread >:( >:( >:(

bastos sa huwag pansinin ang iba pang mga kasapi ng forum

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on January 21, 2013, 07:03:21 AM

Quote from: forest on January 21, 2013, 06:17:30 AM
Moderator please close this thread >:( >:( >:(

bastos sa huwag pansinin ang iba pang mga kasapi ng forum

If there are some threads with other languages (French, German), so why not some more exotic? I don't see anything wrong here.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on January 21, 2013, 08:01:44 AM

There are other sites that has language selection settings, maybe we should suggest it to stefan, so that we don't need to translate other languages here...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on January 21, 2013, 08:33:15 AM

Quote from: forest on January 21, 2013, 06:17:30 AM
Moderator please close this thread >:( >:( >:(

bastos sa huwag pansinin ang iba pang mga kasapi ng forum

Sir forest, you are sounding like sir teets now... Lol ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 21, 2013, 12:24:42 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on January 21, 2013, 08:33:15 AM
Sir forest, you are sounding like sir teets now... Lol ;D

Agree on the moderation just plain english is enough for all to see ....
thanks
totoalas :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 21, 2013, 01:21:37 PM

kapag walang reaktibo kapangyarihan may libreng enerhiya

;D
:P :P :P :P :P
8) gangnam style 8)
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 21, 2013, 01:42:17 PM

well said
:) ;) :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 21, 2013, 02:01:31 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 21, 2013, 02:02:11 PM

هنگامی که قدرت واکنشی با انرژی آزاد وجود دارد

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 21, 2013, 02:03:53 PM

मुक्त ऊर्जा प्रतिक्रियाशील शक्ति से आता है

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 21, 2013, 02:05:14 PM

বিনামূল্যে প্রতিক্রিয়াশীল শক্তি ক্ষমতা থেকে আসে

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 22, 2013, 10:43:21 PM

Maaf teman, tapi itu adalah sedikit peningkatan ditemukan oleh tesla, sumber energi bebas. ;)

જો ટોમ બીર્ડીન કહે છે કે "ધ દ્વીધ્રૂવીય ન મારે આપતા",

સાથે સાથે, મી કહે છે કે "તે મોમેન્ટમ ન મારે આપતા" ;)

Tuhan memberkati anda semua.
טיטאָ ל טפילע

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 23, 2013, 07:14:39 PM

Here's what I'm thinkin' ...

We can get our low voltage electricity from the 'air' using a loop or coil (or laminated piece of metal) - similar to how a crystal radio's pickup coil works..

Then we can run the voltage thru a voltage multiplication setup (e.g. Tate power multiplication setup, or the one I linked to a few pages back, modified by Groundloop).

Then we can use this voltage to power a transistor (e.g., as in joule theif fashion) or 555 timer switch. I believe frequency is what is important here.

If the transistor or timer switch leads to a coil or JT-like setup, its timing can be manipulated with potentiometers or variable caps, in order to achieve resonance, and of course, to keep the dipole destabilized.

A series-wound secondary bifi coil will pick up induced voltage without secondary reflection losses (due to cancellation of magnetic fields within the series wound secondary).

A resonant bifi coil (identical to the secondary coil) could pick up the secondary's scalar energy to be discharged into cap(s) for use.

Hi voltage is not needed - what I believe is most important is frequency: for resonance, and keeping the dipole destabilized to allow the aether to pour into the setup and feed a steady flow of cold electricity (add an AV plug at the end :) )

'ats it fer me.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 23, 2013, 07:21:06 PM

Further info re my above post.
Bob

QuoteEdit --
Quote from Forest, p. 176 --
Energy amplification comes from Tesla patents. Magnifying transmitter. Why magnifying ? Because it uses resonance to raise potential energy in one system and the ambient is producing the exact opposite copy of that one. Do not attempt to load original dipole source, load the ambient one. I think I was clear enough what Steven Mark, Moray and others did... We are floating in a balanced huge energy dipole...
I see some people are coming to the same proper understanding. Do not assume that one Tesla patent is enough. Even all completed are not enough. Tito is right - there are some small parts missing and one much important is lenzless way of transformation//// (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fgrin.gif&hash=48cd3b652a891d74b4b4ef746db528263b551e0c)

Quote from: Bob Smith on January 05, 2013, 11:19:31 AM
Nice work, Forest. If we look at the link to the YT video on the TMT that Tito recently posted, we see the following key elements, which your words confirm, I think:
- generator for producing pulsed currents through a primary coil
- resonant coil
- secondary coil
- conductor
- elevated capacitance

Edit: I link to YT vid inserted-Of the above 5 points, I think probably the first three are the most important for us.

One of the things that Teets has mentioned repeatedly is that his apparatus has some elements in common/similar to a Joule Theif, but that it is a different animal. The JT does have a pulsed primary. Perhaps we can borrow from it.

A bifilar secondary properly constructed should prevent reflective losses in the resonant coil (?)

Perhaps we could incorporate one of the voltage multiplying circuits from the Joule Theif thread as part of the generator for producing pulsed currents. I particularly like Groundloop's schematic here:
http://www.overunity.com/6123/jule-thief/msg349634/#msg349634 (http://www.overunity.com/6123/jule-thief/msg349634/#msg349634)

It seems to me this thread has been leading in this direction all along.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 24, 2013, 12:42:58 AM

Sir Bob Smith

;D

That's all ....theory is simple ...time for building.... :P which is not simple....
We are fooled because there is so much methods like Tito's small gain, but I think the real one gain is not small...or we end up with Tate device...right ?
If you think so then look at Kapanadze or Willis device and compute how big it has to be in Tate method to get 1kW ???
I think Tito the small kick may become huge real ...it's the matter of method of unbalance....

you can drill rock by big force immediately or by small force repeated very fast....but you see difference is .... what ? can you answer that ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 24, 2013, 12:44:44 AM

well...actually it's all Tate method...we just use so small receivers then nobody see them.... :P ;D ;D ;D ;D literaly or not

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on January 24, 2013, 01:27:00 AM

Quote from: forest on January 24, 2013, 12:44:44 AM
well...actually it's all Tate method...we just use so small receivers then nobody see them.... :P ;D ;D ;D ;D literaly or not

Vჩემი აზრით, ძნელია ვხედავ ტყის გავლით Teats. :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on January 24, 2013, 01:57:50 AM

I have a theory that the excess energy from tesla coil and don smith device is comming from earths magnetic field (not earths gravitational field). Even though earths magnetic field is weak, if we vibrate it using oscillating electric current it will creates high voltage in the secondary.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 24, 2013, 03:05:24 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on January 24, 2013, 01:57:50 AM
I have a theory that the excess energy from tesla coil and don smith device is comming from earths magnetic field (not earths gravitational field). Even though earths magnetic field is weak, if we vibrate it using oscillating electric current it will creates high voltage in the secondary.

:-* მაგნიტური Re კავშირი
who said it's not one field to rule them all...

on balanced force : http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BWLSDytSpjI/T2jWnFhzomI/AAAAAAAAAHs/zaZCsERoK_0/s1600/tug-o-war1.jpg rope doesn't move

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 24, 2013, 05:17:26 AM

thats why tito and aviso used batteries and then amplify from there
:) :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 24, 2013, 04:09:23 PM

QuoteThat's all ....theory is simple ...time for building.... (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Ftongue.gif&hash=712f6fec39e91e3e027f36075cd22a26ca109ea1)

Hey Forest, I agree. Won't be easy, but gotta start somewhere.

Quotethats why tito and aviso used batteries and then amplify from there

I agree with Totoalas - for now, easier to start with battery.

Interesting YT video that might help with creative juices:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFowJ-SqEi8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFowJ-SqEi8)
What if the JT were shorted with a shorted series-wound bifi coil?
- and an identical resonant bifi coil was added over that?

Proof will be in the pudding (building)....
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 24, 2013, 04:33:33 PM

Tesla tronix had good results with Slayer Tesla JT....YT
If sparg gap is used in the primary coil ( HV Negative DC Charger 200113 imtotob) as Tito is using relays
the fly swatter used only 4.8 v dc rechargeable battery and the spark/ charge generated is significant already ?????
so another secondary ( bifilar) can do the trick

totoalas :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 25, 2013, 04:44:55 AM

wireless reed switch spark gap by k1zm yt
using one end connected to alum pan

this may be used tito said he used ordinary relay

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 25, 2013, 04:17:22 PM

Jes ascanius radiant collector post no 20 energetic forum vy ascanius himself
Circuit on patrick kelly book
Guruji has succeess charging a motorbike battery post 83
Beside tate circuit we can explore this also
The coil on the wall by tesla similarities

Totoalas ;) :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 26, 2013, 09:57:58 AM

Hv dc spark gap charger 2 130126 yt imtotob

The 12 v dc relay showed a clean spark unlike the reed swith which has fast reaction with radiant energy
This can be passed to an ignition coil or crt coil then to a 12 v battery

The fly swatter used 5 v rechargeable battery
If we can change the circuit to 12 v will be better

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 27, 2013, 09:23:52 AM

Thinking out loud:
Remember the TMT-
Pulsed primary
Resonant coil
Secondary

Suppose we were to take a JT or smiliar pulsed coil arrangement.
- The JT pulses a primary.
- We then wrap a second coil, identical to the one we would ordinarily draw from, but
shorted, onto the toroid (as resonant coil). Remember the Larskro video, a shorted coil
would increase the voltage and frequency: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFowJ-SqEi8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFowJ-SqEi8)
- Then, we wrap a series-wound bifilar secondary over this resonant coil or beside it.
Because it is series-wound, we have cancellation of magnetic fields, and no secondary
reflection losses.

Happy Sunday everybody.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: one_christian_warrior on January 27, 2013, 11:14:25 AM

I think that I have discovered an energy multiplier
how is that for energy amplification?

http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 27, 2013, 08:24:43 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utgOayopDIA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utgOayopDIA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUwrvLqqBRc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUwrvLqqBRc)

:)

LADIES N GENTLEMEN, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoSIB7AqmHY

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wasabi on January 28, 2013, 06:28:34 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 27, 2013, 08:24:43 PM
LADIES N GENTLEMEN, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoSIB7AqmHY

The commenters under this YouTube video notice that a DC motor (not universal) cannot be powered by AC and rotate in one direction without a diode. Any radio waves picked up by this coil would induce only AC in it.

The coils shown present a short circuit to DC thus it is easy to duplicate the effects show on this video by hiding watch button-cell batteries in the motor and the multimeter (in series).
If this is done, then shorting the motor or the multimeter by these coils will produce motor rotation and the same readings on the multimeter.

However, because these batteries must be small, they will not last very long under load.
The energy density of this system should not exceed the density encountered today by batteries. This could be measured by connecting a light bulb and calibrate its brightness with power by well know DC current and then let it run for hours to multiply this power by time and divide by mass or volume of the whole device, in order to calculate the maximum energy density.

If the calculated energy density is higher than the density of contemporary batteries then the device could be proven to be extraordinary without dissection.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on January 28, 2013, 06:52:12 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 27, 2013, 08:24:43 PM

LADIES N GENTLEMEN, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoSIB7AqmHY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoSIB7AqmHY)

Hi Tito,

Unfortunately it is a nice hoax. It was discussed at another forum already.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 28, 2013, 06:26:28 PM

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/9656-electric-field-magnet-43.html#post223133 (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/9656-electric-field-magnet-43.html#post223133)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 29, 2013, 08:27:16 PM

how about this one? :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBMKZqNE7OE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=XDnMODCdhB0&feature=endscreen

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 29, 2013, 08:57:01 PM

??? and ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on January 30, 2013, 05:12:46 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 29, 2013, 08:27:16 PM
how about this one? :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBMKZqNE7OE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBMKZqNE7OE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=XDnMODCdhB0&feature=endscreen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=XDnMODCdhB0&feature=endscreen)

Hi Tito,

Please there is no sense for wasting our time by watching hoax videos. You may wish to upload a video to youtube on YOUR setup and give us a link, then everybody here will be happily watching it.

With this I mean that if you upload YOUR video on YOUR working setup, then HOPEFULLY there will be at least ONE video on youtube which would be WORTH watching when EXCESS energy output is involved. I hope you have such setup.

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on January 30, 2013, 01:36:09 PM

I think im gonna die not by diabetes but by stress of personal problems.. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 30, 2013, 10:37:43 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on January 30, 2013, 01:36:09 PM
I think im gonna die not by diabetes but by stress of personal problems.. :(

No problemo amigo
Its just like a test of faith
Tito is almost giving up the secret lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 30, 2013, 11:21:50 PM

Lets say Tito had a buyer for 'his' FREE energy device for $10 Million.

Most likely the buyer wont be getting involved, if there were anything 'FREE' about it.
With a $10 mil dollar initial investment, further investment will have just begun. There will need to be Research and Development to prepare the device for public and/or commercial use.

Just getting an initial device down pat, even though they already have a pattern to build upon, might take more millions. Then developing for various purposes like charging a cell phone to powering a space station. Millions and Millions more.

Now they have to put up shop. Factories, machining, CEOs, staff, workers, govt regulations, etc. Millions? More like billions.

Now, these buyers, they are going to want their money back one day, along with some big profit margins. Most likely a multi trillion dollar biz when it comes down to it.

There is nothing free about it. Everyone will pay dearly. Like everything else, they will make the device to have a working life span. Like the light bulb. It will need repairs or replacement, just like cars and the tires you put on them. It will soon be just an expensive battery for us, and the whole truth of 'Free Energy' will be lost down the tubes again.

By then we will all just be meat with eyes, from all the fluoride, GMO foods, radiation from power plants, vaccines, etc. and nobody will even care anymore let alone be able to concentrate on the thought for more than a moment, as we will all be mentally challenged, with ADD, born with cancer and constantly dying off because we cant remember or have the energy to take the daily bowl full of prescription drugs, that we cant afford, just to extend our miserable existence. Whew. :o

But when its all said and done, at least Tito would have his dreams come true. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on January 31, 2013, 01:03:14 AM

No problemo amigo
Its just like a test of faith
Tito is almost giving up the secret

- End of Quote -

I dont believe in tito. I think he was toying with us. He already said that he was pinochio. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 31, 2013, 01:56:39 AM

Latest smartscarecrow interview with aviso
Ladt sep 400 k usd from shareof stock still i r and d
Max 15 mins run before overheating
Mags is right :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pauldude000 on January 31, 2013, 07:23:23 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM
Hi everyone 8)

Currently i am trying to amplify a small voltage into high voltage and its current from milliamps to amps now
Can somebody demonstrate amplify a 1.5 volts with its milliamps into high voltage and from milliamps to amps? ::)

Thank you. ;)

God bless
otits

That is actually both simple and common.

Take 12V at 20A and pulse it through a transformer to get 2400V at .1A. Feed this voltage into a resonant tank consisting of a HV capacitor in parallel with a coil which has a spark gap in series. The capacitor stores up the current supplied until the voltage can break down the resistance of the spark gap, at which point the gap becomes conductive discharging the capacitor in a series of oscillations.

This arc across the gap however consists of high voltage at high amperage. Therefore you have ultimately converted low voltage at low amps ultimately to high voltage at high amps.

What has happened is that a little energy has been stored continuously over a long period of time and then been discharged over a very short period of time. This circuit is the basis for the primary circuit of either an Oudin or Tesla type coil.

However, to get constant high energy out of a circuit in which you put in low energy requires an extraneous energy source, either known or unknown.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 31, 2013, 09:51:42 PM

Quote from: pauldude000 on January 31, 2013, 07:23:23 AM

That is actually both simple and common.

Take 12V at 20A and pulse it through a transformer to get 2400V at .1A. Feed this voltage into a resonant tank consisting of a HV capacitor in parallel with a coil which has a spark gap in series. The capacitor stores up the current supplied until the voltage can break down the resistance of the spark gap, at which point the gap becomes conductive discharging the capacitor in a series of oscillations.

This arc across the gap however consists of high voltage at high amperage. Therefore you have ultimately converted low voltage at low amps ultimately to high voltage at high amps.

What has happened is that a little energy has been stored continuously over a long period of time and then been discharged over a very short period of time. This circuit is the basis for the primary circuit of either an Oudin or Tesla type coil.

However, to get constant high energy out of a circuit in which you put in low energy requires an extraneous energy source, either known or unknown.

hi buddy ;)

at that time i'm questioning how to increase it and not starting from high currents. :(

well, your way is correct but it kills the momentum. :)

that's is why you need an extraneous energy source, and yes that is not the way ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pauldude000 on January 31, 2013, 10:50:40 PM

Tito, say you need to crack an egg. There are many ways to crack an egg. You can use a light tap with the edge of a knife or fork. You can use a sledgehammer. You can build a Rube Goldberg machine. All three will crack an egg.

Which is more efficient, and why do people trying to figure out how to crack an egg use sledgehammers and Goldberg machines?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on January 31, 2013, 11:00:04 PM

Do u know how to crack small egg? :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 01, 2013, 02:47:34 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 31, 2013, 09:51:42 PM

hi buddy ;)

at that time i'm questioning how to increase it and not starting from high currents. :(

well, your way is correct but it kills the momentum. :)

that's is why you need an extraneous energy source, and yes that is not the way ;)

hmm...sound kills momentum but when it's silent it may work ? ::) it's all so gentle

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pauldude000 on February 01, 2013, 03:06:17 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on January 31, 2013, 11:00:04 PM
Do u know how to crack small egg? :D

Yes. I've cracked an egg or two.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 01, 2013, 12:32:56 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 31, 2013, 09:51:42 PM

that's is why you need an extraneous energy source, and yes that is not the way ;)

One way to bring in extraneous energy is via ground connection. I believe discharging a cap into a coil, then across a spark gap, grounded at the far side, will pull in radiant energy (from ground). However, this demands HV/HF.

Will not running low voltage pulsed DC into a step-up transformer at resonance, followed by an AV plug facilitate an influx of RE from the aether?
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 01, 2013, 08:45:07 PM

Hi guys... I was planning to build this one. What can u say would this work?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on February 01, 2013, 08:47:12 PM

Loner
Hope you feel better soon.
Here is recent interesting comment From Armagd03
regarding Slyders lighting bulbs around the yard wirelessly.

Quote
Things like that can be possible because there really is no such thins as electricities of opposite polarities. There is only potential with respect to the environment, and other potentials. You can have two positive potentials with a net difference between them and still have current. The designation of each of those being labeled positive is with reference to environment or ground. If you remove this from the picture, they still behave as the so called + and - designating a net difference.

------------
Playing with "potentials"
?
Thx
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 01, 2013, 09:37:54 PM

Quote from: pauldude000 on January 31, 2013, 10:50:40 PM
Tito, say you need to crack an egg. There are many ways to crack an egg. You can use a light tap with the edge of a knife or fork. You can use a sledgehammer. You can build a Rube Goldberg machine. All three will crack an egg.

Which is more efficient, and why do people trying to figure out how to crack an egg use sledgehammers and Goldberg machines?

Actually, i don't crack the egg, i just make a hole and use a straw and suck it ;) ;D

and its so efficient and yummy ;D lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 01, 2013, 09:42:28 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on January 31, 2013, 01:03:14 AM
No problemo amigo
Its just like a test of faith
Tito is almost giving up the secret

- End of Quote -

I dont believe in tito. I think he was toying with us. He already said that he was pinochio. :D

no!, i'm pi-neo-x-kio ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 01, 2013, 09:50:56 PM

Imagine a big egg hanging over your head, and you are starving, but you have a steel straw. The problem is that every time you poke the straw thru the shell, the shell heals in milliseconds, and only lets out a drop of yummy egg. You poke it as fast as humanly possible, but all you get is a few teaspoons that just don't get enough to take the edge off the hunger. But you get your mother's electric sewing machine, hold it over your head and poke the egg at the highest speed possible. The machine starts humming and the egg starts to shake. Now the egg drops are coming out the holes so fast that all you have to do is open your mouth, and you have more than your fill (until your mother comes home and finds you holding her sewing machine over your head, and wet egg all over the room. Then you're in trouble). :)
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 01, 2013, 09:52:03 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on February 01, 2013, 08:45:07 PM
Hi guys... I was planning to build this one. What can u say would this work?

Hey Neo

Ive played with this some. When the input coil is off, 'most' of the magnets field is in the core to the left. I say 'most' because, well, just because. :o ;D lol. But really, put 'some' iron object close to that gap at the right and there is field on the right side also. Not as much as the left, but a substantial amount.

Here is the first of a series of vids I did on the very subject of 'most' or 'some'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vj0PvRJssA

Now we look at how much field is produced by the input (switching coil) coil and how much is actually switched over from the left of the core to the right.

Would there be more 'magnet' field switched over, from the left to the right, than the amount, or say strength of field, produced by the input(switching) coil? In my case, I dont believe so.

There may be alternative ways of driving it or different coil winding styles that could make it work. But as is, when the input coil is on, forcing 'some' of the core magnets field to the right, there is still some of that magnets field to the left in the core, especially if the magnets field is stronger than the magnets strength.

So mostly, if the amount of magnet field switched is not more than the switching coils field, then we are better off just using the field produced by the input coil to induce the pickup coils, without the need to purchase the magnet and make the core to fit. ;)

I made the first solid state orbo while the idea was still just being discussed. Youtube search for "Orbonbon" The input(switching) coil causes the inner core, that the central magnets are using as a path from N to S, to become saturated, becoming nearly invisible to the magnets. The magnets field jumps to the outer core when the switching coil is powered. In doing so, the fields of the magnet 'cut' through the pickup coil that is between the inner and outer cores, producing output. And of course, when the switch coil power is turned off, the magnets field will switch back to the inner core, as it is no longer invisible and the shortest path, 'cutting' the pickup coil windings again, producing output.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 01, 2013, 10:06:29 PM

hi everyone ;)

i have an old toy that i want to share to all of you. THE PING PONG TECH BY TITUS L. NOICARO

Let say we have two electrolitic caps, then cap1 and cap2 has their own primary in just one core

then if we alternately discharge the cap1 and cap2 there should be a middle coil or the collector coil as our free load.

then for every discharge there should be other coil that charge caps1 and caps2.

NOTE:
CAPS are initially charge by a battery. ;)
its just a matter of coil combinar. ;)
diode plays a big role in this toy project. ;)
just use a computer fan for switching and just for simplicity. ;)
seems like tesla swich but No battery
use zener for safety. ;)

This is just simple and really works good luck ;)
and careful everyone hope this helps :-*

A.C. or Alternation is really efficient, as this is a Tesla's design. ;)

God bless everyone ;)
Tito L. Oracion ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 01, 2013, 10:38:10 PM

actually the secret is releasing all the stored energy within matter efficiently, there is nothing better with the exception of controlling stored energy from 'all' dimensions efficiently. all other ways are in vain. the whole idea about creating a perfect energy source has nothing other to do except power a perfect spacecraft. leave all the other stuff on the shelf. it will do Human kind no good in the future.

this is a 100% Technologist prediction.

except nothing less than perfect.

Jerry 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 01, 2013, 10:56:01 PM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 01, 2013, 10:38:10 PM
actually the secret is releasing all the stored energy within matter, there is nothing better with the exception of controlling stored energy from 'all' dimensions. all other ways are in vain. the whole idea about creating a perfect energy source has nothing other to do except power a perfect spacecraft. leave all the other stuff on the shelf. it will do us no good.

this is a 100% Technologist prediction.

except nothing less than perfect.

Jerry 8)

The prediction is absolutely and perfectly 100$% wrong!!! ;D

Why tesla switch work? and not! all energy stored is released? :P
only at peak switching very very little energy is used, am i right class? lol ;D
and all other ways are possible! :P

one thing more, your technologist were running out of technique. ;D lol hahahhahhah joke.
i think you put your technologist in the shelf cause they will do us no good. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 01, 2013, 11:04:33 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 01, 2013, 10:56:01 PM

The prediction is absolutely and perfectly 100$% wrong!!! ;D

Why tesla switch work? and not! all energy stored is released? :P
only at peak switching very very little energy is used, am i right class? lol ;D
and all other ways are possible! :P

sorry Tito but the chair you are sitting on in front of your computer has enough stored energy to blow up a good chunk of the world if you could release all its energy.

so, you are wrong. Mr. Tesla is obsolete and a wimp as far as state of the art.

Jerry 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 01, 2013, 11:09:50 PM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 01, 2013, 11:04:33 PM
sorry Tito but the chair you are sitting on in front of your computer has enough stored energy to blow up a good chunk of the world if you could release all it's energy.

so, you are wrong. Mr. Tesla is obsolete and a wimp as far as state of the art.

Jerry 8)

if tesla is obsolete , why if you disassemble all the advance gadget today are just an innovation of tesla's simple design. :P ???
and i'm not wrong cause that is the main idea of what you are saying :P

And you actually need to release a .001 energy to blow up the whole world. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 01, 2013, 11:24:08 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 01, 2013, 11:09:50 PM

if tesla is obsolete , why if you disassemble all the advance gadget today are just an innovation of tesla's simple design. :P ???
and i'm not wrong cause that is the main idea of what you are saying :P

No, Mr. Tesla was a genius of 'his' time, as far as today he is left behind only in history. he knew nothing better than what we have to day.

Quote
And you actually need to release a .001 energy to blow up the whole world. 8)

need to release .001 of what unit of measurement and what value???? be specific.

P.S I already know this answer.

Jerry 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 01, 2013, 11:31:28 PM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 01, 2013, 11:24:08 PM
No, Mr. Tesla was a genius of 'his' time, as far as today he is left behind only in history. he knew nothing better than what we have to day.

need to release .001 of what unit of measurement and what value? ??? be specific.

P.S I already know this answer.

Jerry 8)

Wrong again, Tesla is man out of his time, he is the designer of our technology today. :P

.001joules

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 01, 2013, 11:34:08 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 01, 2013, 09:52:03 PM
Hey Neo

Ive played with this some. When the input coil is off, 'most' of the magnets field is in the core to the left. I say 'most' because, well, just because. :o ;D lol. But really, put 'some' iron object close to that gap at the right and there is field on the right side also. Not as much as the left, but a substantial amount.

Here is the first of a series of vids I did on the very subject of 'most' or 'some'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vj0PvRJssA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vj0PvRJssA)

Now we look at how much field is produced by the input (switching coil) coil and how much is actually switched over from the left of the core to the right.

Would there be more 'magnet' field switched over, from the left to the right, than the amount, or say strength of field, produced by the input(switching) coil? In my case, I dont believe so.

There may be alternative ways of driving it or different coil winding styles that could make it work. But as is, when the input coil is on, forcing 'some' of the core magnets field to the right, there is still some of that magnets field to the left in the core, especially if the magnets field is stronger than the magnets strength.

So mostly, if the amount of magnet field switched is not more than the switching coils field, then we are better off just using the field produced by the input coil to induce the pickup coils, without the need to purchase the magnet and make the core to fit. ;)

I made the first solid state orbo while the idea was still just being discussed. Youtube search for "Orbonbon" The input(switching) coil causes the inner core, that the central magnets are using as a path from N to S, to become saturated, becoming nearly invisible to the magnets. The magnets field jumps to the outer core when the switching coil is powered. In doing so, the fields of the magnet 'cut' through the pickup coil that is between the inner and outer cores, producing output. And of course, when the switch coil power is turned off, the magnets field will switch back to the inner core, as it is no longer invisible and the shortest path, 'cutting' the pickup coil windings again, producing output.

Mags

Tnx Mags... I really like your comment.. So this might not work if most of the field to the left wont go to the right. But if we lessen the gap to just right, theres is poosiblity that it would work. Maybe it much better if the airgap is adjustable so it can be easily change.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 01, 2013, 11:39:16 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 01, 2013, 11:31:28 PM

Wrong again, Tesla is man out of his time, he is the designer of our technology today. :P

.001joules

If that is all you got then you will fail in accomplishing anything for mankind's furthest future. Mr. Tesla did what he had to do but he had no idea of what we did to 'upgrade' his ideas.

and you are once again wrong about .001 joules of energy to destroy the world.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 01, 2013, 11:56:28 PM

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 01, 2013, 11:39:16 PM
If that is all you got then you will fail in accomplishing anything for mankind's furthest future. Mr. Tesla did what he had to do but he had no idea of what we did to 'upgrade' his ideas.

and you are once again wrong about .001 joules of energy to destroy the world.

what we did today is nothing without the working engine.
and that is what you said and you are wrong once again. ;D

To incinerate the whole house, one only need a one stick of a match. and that's the main idea.

and you are always wrong . lol hahahahhahahhah joke ;D

peace bye. :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 02, 2013, 12:00:05 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 01, 2013, 11:56:28 PM

what we did today is nothing without the working engine.
and that is what you said and you are wrong once again. ;D

To incinerate the whole house, one only need a one stick of a match. and that's the main idea.

and you are always wrong . lol hahahahhahahhah joke ;D

peace bye. :-*

are you trying to instill the original design or the futures upgrades, because if your sticking with the original you'll be left behind.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 02, 2013, 12:00:06 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on February 01, 2013, 11:34:08 PM
Tnx Mags... I really like your comment.. So this might not work if most of the field to the left wont go to the right. But if we lessen the gap to just right, theres is poosiblity that it would work. Maybe it much better if the airgap is adjustable so it can be easily change.

Read this a couple of times. Once you get what it is describing, then you will be able to visualize how the flux propagates through the core and 'cuts' the windings to induce currents in the windings. Its not just simply contained in the material of the core. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 02, 2013, 12:01:49 AM

how 'far' can you see down that future road? I see quite a distance. I have that gift.
I don't live for the moment but only for the future.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 02, 2013, 01:26:49 AM

Heres another project that im planning to build.....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 02, 2013, 03:38:42 AM

Quote from: Loner on February 02, 2013, 02:52:13 AM
Neo-X, what an interesting question.

The route to that question being answered is more important than the answer to your question. Just the amount of awareness required to be able to accept as proven the existence, or lack thereof, is beyond my comprehension in my current physical state. Were I to go on a flight of fancy and consider that such a thing were verifiable, it would probably not alter my actions to any great extent. I won't continue such a discussion on this thread, but it's such an interesting thought process.

Anyway....

What I wanted to mention was that you should check the information available on the MEG. (Motionless Electromagnetic Generator) That device is VERY close to what you are proposing/working on, and there is a lot of supporting information as to core properties, design, control, ect. both on this site and on Beardon's. (www.cheniere.org (http://www.cheniere.org)) Just a thought.

Loner, your right it was very close to MEG. It has no gap and uses two control coils. But mine has an advantage of using only one control coil instead of two. I will test this first by using ferrite core and ceramic magnets and if it was failed, i will switch to nano crystaline magnetic core and neo magnets.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wasabi on February 02, 2013, 03:38:49 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on February 02, 2013, 01:26:49 AM
Heres another project that im planning to build..... ;)

Are those air-cored coils?
How do you expect it to work?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 02, 2013, 08:57:32 AM

@on-edge

upgrades today is just like they just add some more water, but the original design is still old.

i don't have a gift of knowing the future, but i can make a lot of guess and from there i can smell were it approach.

i have a talent of solving hidden puzzle, maybe that's the reason why. ;)

i can make also a lot of design in my head.

i'm a computer C language programmer and i can make programs in my head also before i encode it.

and electronics is just one of my hobby.

and i'm a born again christian. :)
and you are wrong again ;D joke

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 02, 2013, 01:07:32 PM

Hi Folks,

I followed Tito's letter below as closely as I could and I have drawn a schematic as per his description.

So he has two electrolytic capacitors, coils, switches and diodes. I did not draw Zener diodes, only full wave diode bridges to rectify both the cap discharges and the "flyback" pulses, Zener diodes may be placed in PARALLEL with the capacitors to prevent "run-away" situation should this happen... The coils are all on a common ferromagnetic core I believe. I have not tested this yet of course, just tried to interpret Tito's description.

If any of you (including Tito of course) have something to add please post.

rgds, Gyula

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 01, 2013, 10:06:29 PM
hi everyone ;)

i have an old toy that i want to share to all of you. THE PING PONG TECH BY TITUS L. NOICARO

Let say we have two electrolitic caps, then cap1 and cap2 has their own primary in just one core

then if we alternately discharge the cap1 and cap2 there should be a middle coil or the collector coil as our free load.

then for every discharge there should be other coil that charge caps1 and caps2.

NOTE:
CAPS are initially charge by a battery. ;)
its just a matter of coil combinar. ;)
diode plays a big role in this toy project. ;)
just use a computer fan for switching and just for simplicity. ;)
seems like tesla swich but No battery
use zener for safety. ;)

This is just simple and really works good luck ;)
and careful everyone hope this helps :-*

A.C. or Alternation is really efficient, as this is a Tesla's design. ;)

God bless everyone ;)
Tito L. Oracion ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 02, 2013, 06:02:41 PM

Quite interesting circuit. I think it would be much better if the coil is aircored and the primary has few turns to oscillate it at very high frequency like classic teslacoil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 02, 2013, 06:47:03 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 02, 2013, 01:07:32 PM
Hi Folks,

I followed Tito's letter below as closely as I could and I have drawn a schematic as per his description.

So he has two electrolytic capacitors, coils, switches and diodes. I did not draw Zener diodes, only full wave diode bridges to rectify both the cap discharges and the "flyback" pulses, Zener diodes may be placed in PARALLEL with the capacitors to prevent "run-away" situation should this happen... The coils are all on a common ferromagnetic core I believe. I have not tested this yet of course, just tried to interpret Tito's description.

If any of you (including Tito of course) have something to add please post.

rgds, Gyula

bravoooooooooooooo ;)
yow mam me ;D

i salute you, just a little refinements and perfectly done buddy. ;)

one more thing everyone:
use coil for electromagnet patent of tesla of course!
of course primaries should be more bigger than other coils. Balance Balance ok
and just a very simple transformer, do it simple as possible ok? ;) of course
well, much more better if you can make it solid state. transistor switching?, complicated to replicate to newbys. like me ;D

by the highway, do not anymore ask me if it is free energy device ok? ;D

like what i always said, "don't kill the dipole-TomBearden" is not the thing, its the momentum that you should maintain alive and that's the main idea by going with in the flow of the momentum 8)

Another one more thing, i hope everyone will not anymore angry with me ok? :) ;)
Another thing more one, it is not an incident by accident that my wife is pregnant and going to give
birth this Feb 14, 2013 and if someone or everyone want to give some financial
assistance, i think its not bad at all, and its a big blessing to me i guess. :)
I think if i had the money i need, maybe i can share another good toy of mine or maybe i'll give the real thing or the dream of everyone, who knows;)

good luck everyone and just common sense and care ok ;)

I am very happy sharing this thing to everyone ok :-*

God bless everyone. :)

Tito L Oracion ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 02, 2013, 06:55:47 PM

Now were on to something
Any specs calculated guess on the construction??
Start with primary coil
Spark gap or not
Transformer with gap on secondary???
Cannot see the ckt on my note 2 maybe later in my pc
Tito thanks
A good replication is the proof of your honest to goodness comments

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 02, 2013, 08:44:04 PM

Its a boy otits am i right ;) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 02, 2013, 09:11:52 PM

Thanks for the clues, Teets.
@Gyula - great work! Thanks for sharing it.

Do you guys remember Teets referring us to the TMT? -

- Pulsed primary,
- Secondary and
- Resonant coil.

To me, Gyula's schematic looks like a double (mirror image) set of primaries and secondaries, like I had imagined in the TMT.

Is it possible that the 2 primaries are actually "kicking" 180 degrees out of phase, and the secondaries are therefore also ringing/kicking 180 degrees out of phase?

This just leaves the third coil. Do you think it's necessary for it to be single strand, parallel bifi or series bifi? Personally, I'd be inclined towards the series bifi, for reasons I've stated earlier, but don't want to sway the conversation. Any thoughts?

Teets, may your awaited child be blessed with an easy birth and good health for baby and mom.

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 02, 2013, 10:51:31 PM

saw the circuit
c and cw bifilar as i n tesla coil
s1 and s2 zre relays
coils shorting out as in light switch effect
air core or iron or ferrite ring

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 02, 2013, 11:20:00 PM

I think it is much simpler if the two caps in two primaries is charge by one secondary coil alternately?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 02, 2013, 11:23:51 PM

K
Will try to do gyula circuit ala mini

Siz of caps
Wire gauge
Amps of bridge rectifier
Pulser circuit
For now will try fly swatter
Im going to china for the parts tomorrow
Tnx

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pauldude000 on February 03, 2013, 02:35:36 AM

Quote from: Loner on February 01, 2013, 07:53:49 PM
Seeing that I am sick with the Flu, and have a 103 F temp, I can assume I won't get flogged for this like I always have in the past. I may sound a little nasty, but forgive me as my thought processes are not quite up to the social graces right now.

Paul and Bob have good and factual thoughts. I just wanted to reiterate what I have been told is a "Cop-Out" by certain other individuals. This is a statement of "Fact" right from the books, so why EE's can't accept reality just shows their ignorance. I assume that all who do basic electrical work are familiar with "Ohms Law". PLEASE note that to even discuss this I am forced to use words with "Electron" in them. That is part of the problem. Here's the reality and you may do with this as you will. Ohm's Law states E=I*R, Where R is resistance in ohms, I is Current in Amps, and E is "Electro Motive Force". I hope all notice that the R and I are definable in physical terms, where E is NOT. (To you EE's - Electron Charge IS NOT EMF! Don't try to make us forget that fact!)

I am saying this for around the 10th time, but it never sinks in, but as my testing is not the best I offer no proof of operating concept, other than to refer anyone who questions this to a standard physics book. It's actually all in there. So, as a stupid example, think of a basic tesla tower, big cap on top with very high resistance. Feed that with an impulse from a proper transformer through an "Extra" coil as it has been reffered to, and what will happen? I'm not about to get into detail, but as soon as you can accept EMF can exist without excess electrons being present, and that this same EMF can motivate electrons to move... You see, a small current flowing into such a setup WILL amplify the voltage, and for some reason that I cannot explain, the current can build up greatly as well, as long as no arcs come from the top to waste the energy.

Sorry, I can type no more. Getting to dizzy to remaind sitting. You can all ignore me now

Loner, nice to talk with you again. I'll be blunt, anyone that has you on iggy is a complete ditz. Having just recently gone through a 2 week ordeal with the flu myself, I really feel for you. I hope you get well quickly.

Concerning whether anyone will listen; you can lead a horse to water, but nothing will force it to drink. However to say nothing is to ensure that nothing will change, and the only guaranteed means to fail is to do nothing. Voltage, or EMF is indeed one of the explained away but 'undefined' terms, of which there are many. What you say should be apparent the first time someone sees a high emf on their scope with no current, as I am pretty sure we all have.

It should be an AHA moment, but it is usually explained away or ignored as with most anything which is truly interesting.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 03, 2013, 06:03:53 AM

Hi Folks,

Tito: thanks for the further hints please keep them coming 8) and congratulations for the coming baby, wishing good health to you all.

totoalas:

The size of capacitor (for a start with say 12V pre-charged caps) could be any value from 470uF to 2200uF and at least 250V DC rating may be needed for a 470uF and probably 160V DC voltage rating may be needed for a 2200uF for your mini circuit. Wire gauge could be 0.5 - 0.6mm enameled copper wire (peak charge or discharge currents can be in the some Amper range) so the bridge rectifier should be at least for 3-4 Amper and at least 250V AC voltage. First just use your hand to substitute the switches so that you can see how the voltage level change across the precharged capacitor C1 when you first close S1 switch, just momentarily. At first do not use a big load across the output i.e. 6V/ 1-2W or a 12V/ 1W small bulbs would be good as a start: in case you overload the output the capacitors may not be able to get recharged from the coils kick-back spikes at switch-offs and the circuit rings down just because the charge gets used up from the caps. There must be an optimal rate of discharge in a given setup like this, considering first of all the load, the coils inductances and the capacitor values and this could be explored first by hand switching THEN by substituting the hand switch with an electronic switch with variable frequency AND duty cycle. Your relay approach is also good of course, maybe you wish to control the relay with a 555 timer say from 5Hz and up.

Bob:

yes I agree the two primaries should be 'kicking' out of phase, this means that when S1 is closed then S2 should be open AND there is one more notice here: either the winding sense for the primaries should be opposite with each other or the polarity of one of the caps should be connected to a primary in opposite sense with respect to the other. This way the output waveform can have both positive and negative halfwaves 'by default' and if the coils include ferromagnetic cores then the magnetic bias from the one-way capacitors discharge current can be symmetrical on the core B-H curve (no remanence bias may remain).

One more notice: the output coil can be tuned to the switching frequencies by a (non electrolytic) capacitor of course, this way you get a more-sinusoid output voltage waveform.

rgds, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 03, 2013, 06:50:33 AM

Hi Gyula,

I think this has similarities as what you have drawn from Tito's pingpong toy?

Regards
Cc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 03, 2013, 07:57:11 AM

thanks gyula
for the transformer E core ferrite ?
ptrimary maybe 18 awg and secondaries 23 awg
lawson circuit used in hho i have one on breadboard ready
caps 2200 uf 400v dc in stock
maybe others can build also
in time for titos baby toy hehehe
ill have my chinese new year shopping tomorrow ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on February 03, 2013, 08:19:56 AM

Tnx Gyula,

But I believe it would be better if they were 90 degrees out of phase, so that the other coil can help to demagnetize the core?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 03, 2013, 10:02:39 AM

Hi Crazycut06,

Yes, I also think that basically the pingpong toy principle and that of the shown patent circuit is similar, there are two differences:
Tesla used an outside energy source, connected to lines A and B and Tito claimes to use precharged capacitors, the other difference is that Tesla did not show any feedback path from output to input while Tito has described his circuit with feedback, 'suggesting' that the two caps can be maintained in a charged up state while hopefully some useful output power can also be had.

rgds, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 03, 2013, 10:13:32 AM

Hi totoalas,

Well I would tend to suggest using ferrite E cores or similar but Tito has hinted on Tesla bifilar pancake coil configuration and these do not really have ferrite cores...
So what I think is if you happen to have in your "junkbox" some E cores then use them but you need two similar coils as primaries, to start with. Also the inductance of these primaries may be of importance with respect to the switching speed, low number of turns may not be a good start I believe. (I apologize but I am not yet familiar with Lawson circuit of course the wire sizes you mention are good for a start, no need for rewinding with a thicker gauge. Your 400V 2200uF caps sound fine, please charge them up only for 10 - 12V DC to start.
Good luck, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 03, 2013, 10:23:31 AM

Quote from: DimaWari on February 03, 2013, 08:19:56 AM
Tnx Gyula,

But I believe it would be better if they were 90 degrees out of phase, so that the other coil can help to demagnetize the core?

Hi DimaWari,

Tito wrote: "then if we alternately discharge the cap1 and cap2 there should be a middle coil or the collector coil as our free load"

I understood this as 180 degree out of phase and not 90 degree, this is why I wrote that when S1 is ON, S2 is OFF and vice versa. It is possible that this would work with 90 degrees phase shift which would mean an overlapping switching sequence while the 180 degree is just not overlapping but alternating. At 90 degree, you would switch into the previous switching state and demagnetization would use up extra 'juice'.

I assume you are talking about the primary coils into which the caps are discharged alternately, right?

rgds, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on February 03, 2013, 01:30:11 PM

Tnx Gyula,

Its my mistake. I thought its the same with tesla electrical transformer. But here were talking about capacitor discharge while tesla use pure sine wave. And Its more like of a sawtooth wave when we dump the of capacitor charge into a coil right?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 03, 2013, 02:01:06 PM

Thnx Gyula
made my work easier ....
with e cores less turns
either use welding rods as my core around one inch total diameter and 12 inches long...... ( only the steel are used / powder scraped already)
Irondmax in youtube had some good video on the Lawson circuit
In my latest circuit Slayer Transistor mod ( Slayer Booster 2dmax YT imtotob) where I have a c and cw coils in one tube pulsed by one primary coil...12 v dc
My observation , no induction on the side or near the coils which normally occur in a Slayer circuit..Lower ends of the coils are connected to base and ground of the transistor... they are all concentrated on the tip of the upper coil wires
The output coils from the c and cw coils can light dc led lamps but not ac fluoro lamps strange.......
The other circuit I used the fly swatter circuit with spark gap from a relay and using earth ground ... there is a 1 cm arc in the wires and coils as well with only 5 v dc supply the energy is scattered ,,,,,,,
So My experiment with tito 's circuit will probably start from these two pulsing circuit
gud night
totoalas :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 03, 2013, 06:40:41 PM

Hi DimaWari,

Yes, if we attached a oscilloscope across the capacitor in this setup, we would surely see an sawtooth waveform, its amplitude would depend greatly on the size of load across the output coil. Hopefully when we suppose a constant load, the lower value of the sawtooth wave may be (say) 12V (the initial charge fed in at first start) and the peak value of the sawtooth wave may be (say) 30V.

Gyula

Quote from: DimaWari on February 03, 2013, 01:30:11 PM
Tnx Gyula,

Its my mistake. I thought its the same with tesla electrical transformer. But here were talking about capacitor discharge while tesla use pure sine wave. And Its more like of a sawtooth wave when we dump the of capacitor charge into a coil right?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 03, 2013, 07:10:12 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 03, 2013, 10:02:39 AM
Hi Crazycut06,

Yes, I also think that basically the pingpong toy principle and that of the shown patent circuit is similar, there are two differences:
Tesla used an outside energy source, connected to lines A and B and Tito claimes to use precharged capacitors, the other difference is that Tesla did not show any feedback path from output to input while Tito has described his circuit with feedback, 'suggesting' that the two caps can be maintained in a charged up state while hopefully some useful output power can also be had.

rgds, Gyula

Yes you are correct about that, Tito always mention correct combination of parts, if done right, maybe, maintaining the caps charged is posible.

Regards
Cc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 03, 2013, 08:20:45 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 03, 2013, 07:10:12 PM
Yes you are correct about that, Tito always mention correct combination of parts, if done right, maybe, maintaining the caps charged is posible.

Regards
Cc

Add to that laserhacker.com uses supercaps maxwell 26000 uf 2.7 v eliminating the 12 v battery in his car

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 01:03:49 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 03, 2013, 08:20:45 PM
Add to that laserhacker.com uses supercaps maxwell 26000 uf 2.7 v eliminating the 12 v battery in his car

I think that the capacity is too big for this initial circuit, if we can make this circuit run as per Tito's description, maybe we can upsize it for those supercaps for more power.... :o

Regards
Cc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pauldude000 on February 04, 2013, 03:12:38 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 01:03:49 AM

I think that the capacity is too big for this initial circuit, if we can make this circuit run as per Tito's description, maybe we can upsize it for those supercaps for more power.... :o

Regards
Cc

Just don't get a short circuit..... Drag.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 04, 2013, 03:35:35 AM

ahhhah hahahaha haaaha hahaha ha ha ha ha ha ..... ;D ;D ;D
podmod podmod podmod podmod 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 04, 2013, 05:03:58 AM

Just bought the e core 3 x 5 x 2 iches half size
And 2 2200uf 400vdc 3 amp rectifier fiode
E top c cw plus cap
E center primary plus coil for pulse
E bottom same as top

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 04, 2013, 06:22:05 AM

Hi totoalas,

Very good, thank you for your efforts. Do your cores have an air gap in the center leg when you assemble them? You know there are E cores manufactured with or without air gap. No big problem if there is air gap but then you need to use more number of turns to have comparable coil inductances. By the way do you have an L meter? IT would be useful when the need arises for tuning output coil to resonance with the switching frequency.

I wonder why you need to wind c cw at E bottom too? The winding sense for the secondary coils is not important, it is important for the two primary coils only, into which C1 and C2 are discharged via the switches.

Gyula

Quote from: totoalas on February 04, 2013, 05:03:58 AM
Just bought the e core 3 x 5 x 2 iches half size
And 2 2200uf 400vdc 3 amp rectifier fiode
E top c cw plus cap
E center primary plus coil for pulse
E bottom same as top

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 06:32:57 AM

Quote from: pauldude000 on February 04, 2013, 03:12:38 AM

Just don't get a short circuit..... Drag.

If a short happens! Theres smoke! Lol! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 04, 2013, 06:38:54 AM

Thnx gyula forgot to buy the L Meter in china
The center core is twice the size of the top and bottom 1.5 cm

Top and bottom will be for the coils and cap
Center half for the primay\coil the other half secondary

What do you suggest so i can do this right the first time im listening

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 04, 2013, 06:48:20 AM

No air gap on the cores as i passed the joints against the light
Pleasee give me directions to follow
Winding
Bifilar c or vw or sinle left to right
With or without air gap
Test switfch or 12 v relay

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 04, 2013, 07:01:13 AM

Please bare with me I am back in half an hour.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 07:13:28 AM

Hi all,I've managed to wind the coil earlier and tested it.....
Primary L1 = awg #21 approx. 200 turns CW
Primary L2 = awg #21 approz. 200 turns CCW
Secondary L1 = awg #29 approx. 300 turns CW
Secondary L2 = awg #29 approx. 200 turns CCW
C1 & C2 = 220uf/250v
I only used manual switching for now to see how it will function and will upgrade to mechanical switching later on using relay.... Secondary L2 is a bit short as i have ran out of wire... Results will follow....
Regards
Cc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 04, 2013, 07:32:48 AM

cc
good start
only 3hrs rest for my night work
will monitor ur results as i build mine by tomorrow
tonight is only plan plamn plan my next move
slowly but surely
see if ur turns will fit in my e core
gyula take ur time
enjoy the evening :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 07:37:47 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 04, 2013, 07:32:48 AM
cc
good start
only 3hrs rest for my night work
will monitor ur results as i build mine by tomorrow
tonight is only plan plamn plan my next move
slowly but surely
see if ur turns will fit in my e core
gyula take ur time
enjoy the evening :)

My coil is wound on an empty soldering lead bobbin with a solid iron core, maybe not the best coil, maybe the e-core is much better because the flux is concentrated inside the core...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 07:41:25 AM

Take your time in building so that you will not waste much on magnet wires, mine are recovered from old tv degauss, so not much of a waste, will share results for us to find the best setup...

Regards
Cc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 04, 2013, 07:47:31 AM

Hi totoalas,

Ok that no air gaps between the facing core surfaces.

I would suggest the two primaries would be wound onto the center core bifilarly , L1 and L2, and one of the switches would connect to say the start of one of the bifilars say L1 and the other switch would connect to the end of the other bifilar, L2. Here the bifilar winding style just makes winding easier (you can have two windings from one winding effort). It sounds ok for me you would wind the two primaries onto one half of the center leg and your output coil would occupy the other half of the center leg. For the feedback coils I also agree with using the top and the bottom legs of the E cores.
Regarding the number of turns, well a guess only here, try winding at least a 100 turns for the bifilar primaries if you have pleanty of wire then maybe even 200 turns, any wire size between say #20 to #30 you have and for the rest of the other three coils I can also guess to use any of that range, maybe all the 5 coils could be wound from the same size if you have enough.

For the output coil use the same number of turns like for the primaries, this could be good also for the 2 feedback coils.

For a start just use your hand for switching because the very first requirement is to recharge the caps higher than their starting voltage level from the flyback pulses... you have to check this first. Then there may come relays or any electronics.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 04, 2013, 07:51:42 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 07:37:47 AM

My coil is wound on an empty soldering lead bobbin with a solid iron core, maybe not the best coil, maybe the e-core is much better because the flux is concentrated inside the core...

Be suspicious for the solid iron core due to eddy current losses, maybe just use (painted) welding rods or isolated iron wire pieces bundled lengthwise in parallel and insert it into the core.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 04, 2013, 07:56:09 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 07:13:28 AM
Hi all,I've managed to wind the coil earlier and tested it.....
Primary L1 = awg #21 approx. 200 turns CW
Primary L2 = awg #21 approz. 200 turns CCW
Secondary L1 = awg #29 approx. 300 turns CW
Secondary L2 = awg #29 approx. 200 turns CCW
C1 & C2 = 220uf/250v
I only used manual switching for now to see how it will function and will upgrade to mechanical switching later on using relay.... Secondary L2 is a bit short as i have ran out of wire... Results will follow....
Regards
Cc

Maybe you wish to unwind 100 turns from secondary L1 to have the same 200 turns like secondary L2 has.

Manual switching is good for a start to see how much the flyback pulse can recharge the input caps. This flyback pulse level also depends on the coil inductances so use ferromagnetic core (without significant eddy losses).

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 08:21:23 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 04, 2013, 07:51:42 AM
Be suspicious for the solid iron core due to eddy current losses, maybe just use (painted) welding rods or isolated iron wire pieces bundled lengthwise in parallel and insert it into the core.

Yes, thanks for reminding, as this was just a quick test, i have cut several welding rods for my core, i only use the solid one for easy access in case i need to rewound the coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 08:29:58 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 04, 2013, 07:56:09 AM
Maybe you wish to unwind 100 turns from secondary L1 to have the same 200 turns like secondary L2 has.

Manual switching is good for a start to see how much the flyback pulse can recharge the input caps. This flyback pulse level also depends on the coil inductances so use ferromagnetic core (without significant eddy losses).

Ill test this tomorrow and see the voltages it produces, maybe i need to wind more for higher voltage, will post results soon..
Regards
Cc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 04, 2013, 10:01:22 AM

Thanks for the winding tips
I have the whole night to digest and draw the circuit prior to construction
I have a lot of 23 awg no problemo 18 ga from a salvaged flat screen tv
Manual switching
Do i need to put an insulation or tape around the cores
Winding is
1 From left to right then back or
2 Unison winding from left to right and cut winding then another left to right
And so on for clockwise and vise versa for ccw
3Do i need insulation for each layer
Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 04, 2013, 10:11:12 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 08:29:58 AM

Ill test this tomorrow and see the voltages it produces, maybe i need to wind more for higher voltage, will post results soon..
Regards
Cc

Cc
Capsrelay using square caps from a fluorescent fixture and a relay 12 or 24 v 2no 2nc is the one i will use
Also can you post a sketch of ur set up for comparison
Tnks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 04, 2013, 10:47:10 AM

in 93 times podmod :P
tito ping pong ::)
me thinks arduino would help ???
podmod forever :P :P :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 04, 2013, 01:11:13 PM

Proposed set up by Gyula using an E core ( not shown in the block diagram)
please comment for any error
thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 04, 2013, 04:31:11 PM

Quote

I have a lot of 23 awg no problemo 18 ga from a salvaged flat screen tv
Manual switching
Do i need to put an insulation or tape around the cores
Winding is
1 From left to right then back or
2 Unison winding from left to right and cut winding then another left to right
And so on for clockwise and vise versa for ccw
3Do i need insulation for each layer

Hi totoalas,

23 AWG wire sounds ok, 18 ga may be too thick, no need for it.

Yes if you do not have a plastic bobbin for the core, you have to use insulating tape on the core surface before start winding because wire enamel can get damaged at the core edges. If no bobbin, you may use 4 card board paper pieces cut in L shape to have sides for the windings? (not obligatory of course) :D

Winding is just good from say left to right and coming backwards and so on. This is also ok for the bifilar coils. (By the way I do not think you need cw or ccw winding directions, there is the bifilar L1 and L2 and all the other three coils L3, L4 and L5 can have any winding direction because the diode bridges always conduct in the correct direction. More on this question later, NOW just wind all these 3 coils say cw, ok?

Normally you do not have to use insulation for the layers if the enamel is safe and sound for the wire. Judge for yourself, there is no harm if you use.

Regarding your proposed drawing, I edited it and corrected two connections, (the negative wire ends for the capacitors were connected to a wrong place in your original drawing). I gave the name TESLA_MOD_POWER AMPLIFIER 050113.png for the corrected drawing, see attached.

So you wind two wires bifilarly for L1 and L2, always guiding the two wires in parallel and then please notice that the ends of L2 are replaced with each other when you make the connections into the circuit as shown in the new drawing, IF you do not get it, please ask.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 04, 2013, 07:43:15 PM

thanks
I have the insulating material for winding in iron cores this I will use .....
Polarity --- ok
need to rest for 3 hours before I start my winding journey lol
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 07:52:26 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 04, 2013, 10:11:12 AM
Cc
Capsrelay using square caps from a fluorescent fixture and a relay 12 or 24 v 2no 2nc is the one i will use
Also can you post a sketch of ur set up for comparison
Tnks

You can try those, but higher uf is much better i think...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 08:04:55 PM

Hi all,
For this test i have 2 multimeters connected to the two caps for dc voltage measurement.Ok here's my quick test today, i pre charged c1 with 10vdc, c2 is zero volts, i close sw1, induction occurs, c1 voltage drops to almost zero, then c2 generates 2.5vdc, i did it vice versa....almost the same readings...
conclusion; i need to wind more for the secondary coils to generate more voltage, for the 300 turns = to 2.5 volts, maybe i need to wind 1000 turns to get to the 10v input range... Thats all for now....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 04, 2013, 08:29:14 PM

Thar means we are heading in the right direction
Keep us posted
:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2013, 09:50:29 PM

Are you using 'bifilar' primary coils? Tito just the other day mentioned it again. Tesla pat. Coil for Electromagnets. ;)

He also said that the primary should be bigger, or larger than the secondary. Does that mean to use thicker wire, or more of it to make it bigger or larger? Or are we just talking about diameter? Tito is the Puzzle Master. :o

It would be a strange thing if just reversing the thickness difference of the sec and pri wire of an ordinary step up transformer, would produce more amps and voltage.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 11:43:11 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 04, 2013, 09:50:29 PM
Are you using 'bifilar' primary coils? Tito just the other day mentioned it again. Tesla pat. Coil for Electromagnets. ;)

He also said that the primary should be bigger, or larger than the secondary. Does that mean to use thicker wire, or more of it to make it bigger or larger? Or are we just talking about diameter? Tito is the Puzzle Master. :o

It would be a strange thing if just reversing the thickness difference of the sec and pri wire of an ordinary step up transformer, would produce more amps and voltage.

Mags

Hi Mags,
Are you talking to me? Or totoalas?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 05, 2013, 12:13:01 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 11:43:11 PM
Hi Mags,
Are you talking to me? Or totoalas?

Hey Crazy

Im talking in general. Knowing transformers a bit, there has to be some 'twist' or something that is not common.

There has to be something that produces more out than in. Something that tricks the secondary into thinking it has been induced by a higher power that what is actually consumed.

I was going to dig out the pat. and read it over again to see if there is anything more to it than what I got before, but Im busy with another project at the moment.

This is the only thing I can think of that would be amiss from the circuit. Unless it is the individual windings shown and they are all wound at the same time. Not sure.

Ive read several patents that claim the use of a bifilar winding gives the transformer better efficiency. Easy to search for. When they claim better efficiency, its not clear whether it is a greater COP or just closer to 100%.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 01:27:41 AM

Teslas 3 6 9
3 T primary 6t secondary 9t pick up sny coincidence mags
Above quote from somebody
Mivrowave xfr has thicher primary
Kapanadze and modt tesla coils had primaries bihger from their understanding
The fly swatter circuit when used as primary with dpark from relay caused by the secondary pick up coil earthed or connevted to water pipe
All around the room pc laptop lights blink causef by induction

So earth plays a big role here

Cc
Can you connect to earth the secondary and see
Tnx

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 04:18:18 AM

My finished coil
Primary bifilar 14 awg 40 t
Secondary 23 awg 160 t
Pick up 23 awg 600t
Tomorrow for termination test
N

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 05, 2013, 04:52:48 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 04, 2013, 08:04:55 PM
Hi all,
For this test i have 2 multimeters connected to the two caps for dc voltage measurement.Ok here's my quick test today, i pre charged c1 with 10vdc, c2 is zero volts, i close sw1, induction occurs, c1 voltage drops to almost zero, then c2 generates 2.5vdc, i did it vice versa....almost the same readings...
conclusion; i need to wind more for the secondary coils to generate more voltage, for the 300 turns = to 2.5 volts, maybe i need to wind 1000 turns to get to the 10v input range... Thats all for now....

Hi crazycut06,

Before you wind 1000 turns let's discuss how quickly or slowly did you discharge the capacitor C1 when you close SW1. I do think that you have to be very quick if you do the switching by hand and make sure you just switch off SW1 before C1 fully discharges. So starting with the 10V precharge voltage, try to switch SW1 off when coil L1 consumed a few volts only from the 10V, say 4V and this would mean that current (kept on by the remaining 6V in that moment) is still able flow in the series LC circuit when you interrupt it: this means that the coil is also able to give the kick-back spike any inductance gives when current is cut in it and the amplitude of this spike is (Vi=L*dI/dt) can be several times of ten volts, even above 100V, depending on the suddeness of the switch-off, coil inductance and the current itself. Question is and this is the relevant question: is this spike able to recharge capacitor C1 via the diode bridge? (In your above test I assume you did not switch sw1 off quick enough and there was no chance to interrupt any meaningful current flowing in the coil just because C1 was discharged by then.)

Of course there can be circumstances when it is quasy impossible to perform as quick switch-off by hand as would be needed to keep on some or certain current flow in the coil BEFORE the charge in the capacitor diminishes to zero or near zero where a negligible current can only flow in the coil in the very moment of switch-off. In this case the only solution is electronically controlled switching.
Here comes into picture the L/R time constant you wish to consider. For this you need to know the DC resistance and the L inductance of coil L1, (L2).
For those not familiar with L/R time constant, there are several links like this: http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/ac_theory/dc_ccts45.php (http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/ac_theory/dc_ccts45.php)
You can see from the graph that probably the best time for switching off current is at T=1*(L/R) second or just below that. Say you have 20mH coil for L1 and its DC resistance is say 4 Ohm. Its time constant is T=20mH/4 Ohm=5msec (millisecond) this is the time duration you wish to keep current flowing into this coil after the switch-on moment, and 5msec later you switch it off very quickly (at least under some microsecond or at some hundred nanosecond speed). (in this calculation I neglected the switch series ON resistance and the capacitor C1 inner resistance (ESR=equivalent series resistance), these two resistances increase the R value in the time constant calculation.)

rgds, Gyula

PS1: What Magluvin says on the Tesla electromagnet patent can also be of significance, for Tito mentioned it indeed but one step at a time...

PS2: crazycat06, please charge up C2 to also 10V, even if you do not discharge it first because its uncharged presence in the circuit means a big load to any spike (any capacitor is almost a short circuit for the first moment when you start charging it), and anyway Tito said charge up both caps to a certain DC level.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 05, 2013, 06:37:01 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 05, 2013, 12:13:01 AM
Hey Crazy

Im talking in general. Knowing transformers a bit, there has to be some 'twist' or something that is not common.

There has to be something that produces more out than in. Something that tricks the secondary into thinking it has been induced by a higher power that what is actually consumed.

I was going to dig out the pat. and read it over again to see if there is anything more to it than what I got before, but Im busy with another project at the moment.

This is the only thing I can think of that would be amiss from the circuit. Unless it is the individual windings shown and they are all wound at the same time. Not sure.

Ive read several patents that claim the use of a bifilar winding gives the transformer better efficiency. Easy to search for. When they claim better efficiency, its not clear whether it is a greater COP or just closer to 100%.

Mags

Oh okay, :D Glad to have you back in this thread, ;) My coil is just single wound, i think you are correct about bifilars or multifilars in transformers, better efficiencies, i've seen many transformers in our daily appliances that has multifilar winds old and new ones, mostly in pulsed dc, will try that as we go along....
Regards
Cc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 05, 2013, 07:07:57 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 05, 2013, 04:52:48 AM
Hi crazycut06,

Before you wind 1000 turns let's discuss how quickly or slowly did you discharge the capacitor C1 when you close SW1. I do think that you have to be very quick if you do the switching by hand and make sure you just switch off SW1 before C1 fully discharges. So starting with the 10V precharge voltage, try to switch SW1 off when coil L1 consumed a few volts only from the 10V, say 4V and this would mean that current (kept on by the remaining 6V in that moment) is still able flow in the series LC circuit when you interrupt it: this means that the coil is also able to give the kick-back spike any inductance gives when current is cut in it and the amplitude of this spike is (Vi=L*dI/dt) can be several times of ten volts, even above 100V, depending on the suddeness of the switch-off, coil inductance and the current itself. Question is and this is the relevant question: is this spike able to recharge capacitor C1 via the diode bridge? (In your above test I assume you did not switch sw1 off quick enough and there was no chance to interrupt any meaningful current flowing in the coil just because C1 was discharged by then.)

Of course there can be circumstances when it is quasy impossible to perform as quick switch-off by hand as would be needed to keep on some or certain current flow in the coil BEFORE the charge in the capacitor diminishes to zero or near zero where a negligible current can only flow in the coil in the very moment of switch-off. In this case the only solution is electronically controlled switching.
Here comes into picture the L/R time constant you wish to consider. For this you need to know the DC resistance and the L inductance of coil L1, (L2).
For those not familiar with L/R time constant, there are several links like this: http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/ac_theory/dc_ccts45.php (http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/ac_theory/dc_ccts45.php)
You can see from the graph that probably the best time for switching off current is at T=1*(L/R) second or just below that. Say you have 20mH coil for L1 and its DC resistance is say 4 Ohm. Its time constant is T=20mH/4 Ohm=5msec (millisecond) this is the time duration you wish to keep current flowing into this coil after the switch-on moment, and 5msec later you switch it off very quickly (at least under some microsecond or at some hundred nanosecond speed). (in this calculation I neglected the switch series ON resistance and the capacitor C1 inner resistance (ESR=equivalent series resistance), these two resistances increase the R value in the time constant calculation.)

rgds, Gyula

PS1: What Magluvin says on the Tesla electromagnet patent can also be of significance, for Tito mentioned it indeed but one step at a time...

PS2: crazycat06, please charge up C2 to also 10V, even if you do not discharge it first because its uncharged presence in the circuit means a big load to any spike (any capacitor is almost a short circuit for the first moment when you start charging it), and anyway Tito said charge up both caps to a certain DC level.

Hi Gyula,
I did not do the switching quickly, and let the cap to fully discharge, manual switching is hard to do, im preparing my relay pulser to do the job, regarding inductance, i do not have an L meter :( And don't have
Any quality multimeter to get perfect measurements.
I tried charging both caps to 10v and closed sw1 but no noticeable voltage rise on c2, but if i connect the 10v battery to c1 then switch it, i get 13v on c2 with one switch, and if i continue switching it rose to 25v maybe more, ill try it again with the relay for more controled switching....thanks for the heads up....
Regards
Cc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 07:16:18 AM

Tito dsif he used pc fan
Magmet on the blades
Reed switch for relay pulsing
I tried to charge the cap to 12 v but easily dischargef with multimeter
Will try ur test with battery on one cap

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 05, 2013, 07:16:28 AM

Hi Cc,

Okay, no problem, hopefully the relay will be quick enough. What is the uF value and DC voltage rating for your caps?

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 05, 2013, 07:18:13 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 01:27:41 AM
Teslas 3 6 9
3 T primary 6t secondary 9t pick up sny coincidence mags
Above quote from somebody
Mivrowave xfr has thicher primary
Kapanadze and modt tesla coils had primaries bihger from their understanding
The fly swatter circuit when used as primary with dpark from relay caused by the secondary pick up coil earthed or connevted to water pipe
All around the room pc laptop lights blink causef by induction

So earth plays a big role here

Cc
Can you connect to earth the secondary and see
Tnx

I need to get some good results before trying to use earth ground, well see as we go along... ;)
Regards
Cc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 05, 2013, 07:20:26 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 07:16:18 AM
Tito dsif he used pc fan
Magmet on the blades
Reed switch for relay pulsing
I tried to charge the cap to 12 v but easily dischargef with multimeter
Will try ur test with battery on one cap

Very interesting solution for doing the switching. Did Tito tell you this if I may ask? ;) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 05, 2013, 07:20:53 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 07:16:18 AM
Tito dsif he used pc fan
Magmet on the blades
Reed switch for relay pulsing
I tried to charge the cap to 12 v but easily dischargef with multimeter
Will try ur test with battery on one cap

Is your cap has a small uf? Use larger ones to hold more charge.

Maybe Tito is blowing the pc fan to spin and get free energy off of his setup lol!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 05, 2013, 07:23:41 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 05, 2013, 07:16:28 AM
Hi Cc,

Okay, no problem, hopefully the relay will be quick enough. What is the uF value and DC voltage rating for your caps?

Gyula

220uf/250v

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 05, 2013, 07:29:13 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 05, 2013, 07:23:41 AM

220uf/250v

Ok, thanks. The voltage rating is good to be as high as that because if you need to increase the precharged voltage in the cap towards the some ten Volts range, the kickback spike can go up in the some hundred Volts range with the relay switching. This means some kind of load is needed across the output voltage (Zener diode protection (250V) is needed later across the caps.) This remains to be seen, hopefully

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 05, 2013, 07:34:20 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 05, 2013, 07:29:13 AM
Ok, thanks. The voltage rating is good to be as high as that because if you need to increase the precharged voltage in the cap towards the some ten Volts range, the kickback spike can go up in the some hundred Volts range with the relay switching. This means some kind of load is needed across the output voltage (Zener diode protection (250V) is needed later across the caps.) This remains to be seen, hopefully

I was thinking of adding a steering diode going back to the caps to catch the bemf generated by the primary coils, zener is a must if voltage rises too much.
I don't have output coil yet.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 05, 2013, 08:07:53 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 05, 2013, 07:34:20 AM

I was thinking of adding a steering diode going back to the caps to catch the bemf generated by the primary coils, zener is a must if voltage rises too much.
I don't have output coil yet.

Well, this is what the diode bridges do, they catch the bemf which appears equally well by induction in your secondary coil from the primary spike. Even if you do not have a closed magnetic core, induction works because the magnetic field collapses at current switch off and it is also sensed by the secondary coils that feed the diode bridges.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 05, 2013, 09:04:12 AM

Who's doing replication? I like to test titos circuit but i have no materials needed for replication. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 09:12:28 AM

2200 Uf 400vdc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 09:21:46 AM

Hi gyula
I should be the one asking since tito had repeatedly told this lol
Yes this is my idea
But the connection maybe external supply for the meantime
Any suhhestion please let me know
Either to connect to the 2 pulsinh precharged cap or on the load side

I just eoke up and will go to wok in my grave night shift

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 05, 2013, 09:50:36 AM

Hi totoalas,

Nice idea for switching, I remember Tito mentioned the computer fan for switching that is all but I did not figure or read the magnets on the blades and reed switch to the relay.

I cannot really suggest to you anything special, if you wish to help the capacitor by an external supply, so be it, Tito wrote precharged caps, maybe you can increase the precharge voltage to 20 or 30V DC in the capacitors or maybe higher and see how they discharge by the relay switching. To do this correctly so that the biggest bemf spikes could be received back from coils, you have to know the coils L/R time constant and adjust the control pulse of a MOSFET switch to be as wide as that, this way at least you have done the best to be able to recover the most from an input pulse you take out from the capacitor.

So if you use a relay it has to have a normally open and a normally closed contacts and somehow you have to switch it at a variable speed, of course there is an upper limit for the speed due to the mechanical inertia of the contacts. An 555 timer or any other low speed switcher (astable multivibrator etc ) would be good.

For a load, a 12V/ 1 - 2W lamp or similar would be good I think.

Gyula

Quote from: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 09:21:46 AM
Hi gyula
I should be the one asking since tito had repeatedly told this lol
Yes this is my idea
But the connection maybe external supply for the meantime
Any suhhestion please let me know
Either to connect to the 2 pulsinh precharged cap or on the load side

I just eoke up and will go to wok in my grave night shift

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 05, 2013, 09:57:36 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on February 05, 2013, 09:04:12 AM
Who's doing replication? I like to test titos circuit but i have no materials needed for replication. :(

Here is the post where I show a possible schematic, Tito said it is good but needs some refinements...
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352107/#msg352107
In that post I mention the needed components, the coils are a big questions whether they should be Tesla bifilar pancake coils or some other kind would also be good, this is not yet clear, I suggested using ferrite E cores, or potcores, the usefullness will turn out, no guarantie... I am aware of two builders at the moment.

rgds, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 11:27:44 AM

Thanks gyula for the support
I have a printer power supply 30 v dc.... pre charged the cap as tito says. lot of options....
ur correct on the relays one no / nc relay ... think might need a double pole switch to isolate the nc from the start sequence in stop mode so as not not to short/ discharged in a off steady state.....this switch is together with the pulser button .....
Can use a dimmer switch for the fan speed ,,,,,,
I will dig my induction cooker 12 v fan for this set up using dime size neodyne magnets and reed switch
my hands are little bit numb due to to the recycled current clamp coil wires I used in this set up....
tomorrow is another day..... nice result from cc
totoalas :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: romerouk on February 05, 2013, 02:32:00 PM

Here is a schematic that can be adapted and used with Tito's circuit.
http://www.underservice.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3.0;attach=1232;image (http://www.underservice.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3.0;attach=1232;image)

Romero

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 05, 2013, 05:42:33 PM

Hi Romero,

Thank you for the schematic and if you could add any more explanation how you mean to adapt the two that would be great.

My drawing as per Tito's explanation is here: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352107/#msg352107 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352107/#msg352107)

rgds, Gyula

EDIT Oh I see now: use your shown circuit to drive the two primaries with the MOSFETs and the IR2153 remains the driver to the MOSFETs, right? And the two batteries in your schematic would be replaced by C1 and C2 from Tito's circuit. Ok!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 06:08:52 PM

thanks romerouk for the circuit
the best way I can interpret this based on gyulas circuit
1. instead of induction or secondary coils the ic and transistors are supplied with battery
2, to adapt to this circuit.... merge gyula,s circuit by
a. precharged the cap / secondary coils to replace batteries
b. for pulsing ... dont know if the ic can be utlized
now, we can proceed .... more ideas on how to ??????

so for my part , 2200 uf 400v dc cap when charged with 12 v dc power supply ...easily discharged when measured with multimeter
from 12 to 1.2 v in just seconds ..... fully charged cap is the pre requisite for the coils to oscillate or send energy to the secondary
Solution?
1. make a fast switching on S1 and S2 - by as tito suggest computer fan
2. caps/ relay pulser
3. 555 timer
4. other options
I will opt for 1 which is on hand
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 05, 2013, 06:44:06 PM

Quote from: romerouk on February 05, 2013, 02:32:00 PM
Here is a schematic that can be adapted and used with Tito's circuit.
http://www.underservice.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3.0;attach=1232;image (http://www.underservice.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3.0;attach=1232;image)

Romero

Thank you Romero for droping by and for this circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 05, 2013, 06:45:40 PM

Hi totoalas,

I will merge the two schematics about tomorrow i.e. adapt Tito's description to Romero's schematic. The good thing is the IR2153 is wideband, tuneable by a potmeter (or switchable capacitors) and simply to connect.

I wonder if you use an analog voltmeter or a digital one to see the 12V discharging in just seconds? IF you use digital it normally has a 10 MOhm inner resistance so your capacitors maybe be leaky or abused? A 2200uF cap should keep charge longer than some seconds when loaded by 10 MOhm. And analog voltmeter is a different case , it may have 50k to 100 kOhm or so inner resistance so in that case the caps may be ok to discharge as fast as some seconds. IF you connect the two caps in parallel, charge them up to 12V again and see if those seconds are doubled? they should.

Yes the two charged caps are a prerequisite for Tito's circuit to operate. Do you have any other similar caps like 1000uF 200V or 470uF 250V etc just in case... LOL

Just use switches that simplest for you but still can do the job: alternately switch the caps onto the coils then disrupt current well before the caps are about to discharge to half of the start voltage or so.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 05, 2013, 06:48:37 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 06:08:52 PM
thanks romerouk for the circuit
the best way I can interpret this based on gyulas circuit
1. instead of induction or secondary coils the ic and transistors are supplied with battery
2, to adapt to this circuit.... merge gyula,s circuit by
a. precharged the cap / secondary coils to replace batteries
b. for pulsing ... dont know if the ic can be utlized
now, we can proceed .... more ideas on how to ??? ???

so for my part , 2200 uf 400v dc cap when charged with 12 v dc power supply ...easily discharged when measured with multimeter
from 12 to 1.2 v in just seconds ..... fully charged cap is the pre requisite for the coils to oscillate or send energy to the secondary
Solution?
1. make a fast switching on S1 and S2 - by as tito suggest computer fan
2. caps/ relay pulser
3. 555 timer
4. other options
I will opt for 1 which is on hand
totoalas

Hi totoalas,
How come your cap drops charge so quickly? Thats a big cap, maybe it's leaky or damaged?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 07:07:55 PM

my caps are new , or my meter is fooling me im using my old uni t normal digital meter
will try again to test per gyula
its either fake or busted 70 renminbi in china almost 500 pesos tsk tsk tsk
my other idea is to pulse the two caps with flyswatter circuit cost only 35 hkd each connected to relay
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 07:10:48 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 07:07:55 PM
my caps are new , or my meter is fooling me im using my old uni t normal digital meter
will try again to test per gyula
its either fake or busted 70 renminbi in china almost 500 pesos tsk tsk tsk
my other idea is to pulse the two caps with flyswatter circuit cost only 35 hkd each connected to relay
totoalas

k will buy the 470 uf for comparison in the test

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 05, 2013, 07:14:55 PM

The first thing I would do.....

In Guyla's circuit, lets just look at 1 cycle of 1 cap being discharged into a primary, and that field induces the 2 secondaries, sending some charge to the cap that was just discharged and to the other cap that is waiting to be discharged through the 2 secondaries and the bridge rectifiers.

So, I would try the 1 cycle experiment to see what results are in the 2 caps after the fist discharge.

In a normal transformer, lets say with 2 secondaries, loading the secondaries individually will produce a certain amount of similar power out. When both are being loaded, they can produce the same power out each but that would require more from the input. If we have a precharged cap, when we dump it into the primary, when 1 secondary is loaded, the current from the cap will flow at a particular decreasing amperage over a period of time. With 2 secondaries loaded, the amperage of the cap discharge will be double, but will happen in about half of the time period.

So I dont see charging even 1 cap via another of the same value, to the same(or more) voltage level, especially while delivering excess output to a load via additional secondaries.

There must be an alternative way to wind the transformer to get this result, or some external parts, that we dont know about yet. I would put the money on the transformer.

Sooo, a simple test vs building a whole multi winding transformer, would be to just wind a single secondary first on the bobbin, then a bifi primary with the 2 windings in series. Use a bridge on the secondary to charge another cap of the same value of the discharge cap, and see if the secondary cap is charged to or above the starting voltage of the discharge cap.

Now, if it does show that the secondary cap is above starting voltage, this would confirm everything.

Is it possible that a bifi primary acts differently than a standard winding in how it 'reacts' to loaded secondaries? I dunno.

When I get some time, I will try what I said. I dont even know what number or ratio of windings to start with. Will think on it a bit.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 05, 2013, 07:42:38 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 05, 2013, 07:14:55 PM
The first thing I would do.....

In Guyla's circuit, lets just look at 1 cycle of 1 cap being discharged into a primary, and that field induces the 2 secondaries, sending some charge to the cap that was just discharged and to the other cap that is waiting to be discharged through the 2 secondaries and the bridge rectifiers.

So, I would try the 1 cycle experiment to see what results are in the 2 caps after the fist discharge.

In a normal transformer, lets say with 2 secondaries, loading the secondaries individually will produce a certain amount of similar power out. When both are being loaded, they can produce the same power out each but that would require more from the input. If we have a precharged cap, when we dump it into the primary, when 1 secondary is loaded, the current from the cap will flow at a particular decreasing amperage over a period of time. With 2 secondaries loaded, the amperage of the cap discharge will be double, but will happen in about half of the time period.

So I dont see charging even 1 cap via another of the same value, to the same(or more) voltage level, especially while delivering excess output to a load via additional secondaries.

There must be an alternative way to wind the transformer to get this result, or some external parts, that we dont know about yet. I would put the money on the transformer.

Sooo, a simple test vs building a whole multi winding transformer, would be to just wind a single secondary first on the bobbin, then a bifi primary with the 2 windings in series. Use a bridge on the secondary to charge another cap of the same value of the discharge cap, and see if the secondary cap is charged to or above the starting voltage of the discharge cap.

Now, if it does show that the secondary cap is above starting voltage, this would confirm everything.

Is it possible that a bifi primary acts differently than a standard winding in how it 'reacts' to loaded secondaries? I dunno.

When I get some time, I will try what I said. I dont even know what number or ratio of windings to start with. Will think on it a bit.

Mags

I remembered from the past post Tito shared a YT video, showing a coil wound multifilar and connected in series, he then compared it with a single wound coil, same coil diameter, as he test it the multifiar coil had much power than the single wound coil... Hmmm... Lots to try...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 07:55:00 PM

another is the use of litz wire for wider surface area

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 08:13:52 PM

Hi CC and all who would like tyo join in
maybe to make our tests to be easily monitored
dont know if you would agree
start with your post set up and circuit used then just quote repeatedly for the
the results good or bad
just like an email where we can trace the history
any ideas gentlemen ..... a locked thread by admin or anything just to collate the data when we do changes / adaptation of ideas
at least we can eliminate / lessen repetitive tests that already had been done before in this thread
thanks
totoalas :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 05, 2013, 08:22:47 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 05, 2013, 07:42:38 PM
I remembered from the past post Tito shared a YT video, showing a coil wound multifilar and connected in series, he then compared it with a single wound coil, same coil diameter, as he test it the multifiar coil had much power than the single wound coil... Hmmm... Lots to try...

Some will say that the bifi might have a stronger field, at the expense of more input, concluding that the additional capacitance of the bifi will take in more input faster than a normal coil.

Ive played with bifi coils, but not as a primary of a transformer.

As for the windings ratio, since ive thought on it since my last post, I would go for a 'slight' step up. Like if the primary is 100 turns, make the secondary 110 turns. All we want is for the secondary to produce an increase in voltage compared to the input.

If we input 10v and we get 11v in the secondary cap, all in just 1 cycle, then we have lift off. 10 cycles would be higher than 20v. ;) Using a 1 to 1 ratio would never do it. If we wind the sec with a high ratio, like 1/10, the voltage might be higher, but amps will be low. If the amps are inherently low, the HV means nothing really, if the current its driving cannot flow. ;) Maybe even use 1 size larger wire for the sec(110 turns) compared to the primary(100 turns) as to be assured that the secondary 'can' produce at least the same or more current than the primary, where the resistance of the wire wont be an obstacle and not come into question. So if say we pulse the primary with 10v 1a, the secondary could produce 1a but at 11v. 10w in 11w out. Doesnt sound like much. But if it happens thousands of times per second, it will build quickly. If it even works. ;)

Soo, as an example, wind 50 turns bifi (equals 100 turns of wire) and 110 or even 120 turns of single secondary wire of a larger AWG than used in the secondary.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 05, 2013, 08:29:18 PM

Note, its best to wind the sec first and the primary on top. The core or inner core of an ecore will be where most of the primary field will be attracted to, thus having the sec in the way, it gets induced by the primary better than the other way around.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 08:36:17 PM

Will yt mopozco channel iremembered he did some similar test of mags sughestiom

Tros Aviso coil shortening yt mopozco

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: romerouk on February 05, 2013, 08:39:32 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 05, 2013, 05:42:33 PM
Hi Romero,

Thank you for the schematic and if you could add any more explanation how you mean to adapt the two that would be great.

My drawing as per Tito's explanation is here: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352107/#msg352107 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352107/#msg352107)

rgds, Gyula

EDIT Oh I see now: use your shown circuit to drive the two primaries with the MOSFETs and the IR2153 remains the driver to the MOSFETs, right? And the two batteries in your schematic would be replaced by C1 and C2 from Tito's circuit. Ok!

Hi Gyula,
I built a toroid based on the schematic from Tito with no coil for the output, just to see how it works and see if the charge is maintained, goes up or down.
I replaced the batteries with capacitors, different values and power is lost after few cycles. I realised that the IC is powered on pin 1 from one of these caps and and there I need to have a constant voltage. I disconnected the pin 1 from the circuit and connected to a separate supply, pin 8 will get the power while the system is started.
With external supply for the circuit it ran a bit longer, about 30 seconds then power is lost again.
Now I realised that a full bridge rectifier will not help as it sends power to both capacitors at the same time killing the source instead of charging the other capacitor. I replaced the bridge rectifiers with a single diode for each side of the circuit checking the polarity of the coils. Now when cap 1 discharges most of the power goes into cap 2, these where my assumptions then tested and I was right, system is running for about 3 minutes then it stops. The way I wound the coils is with primary coil on top of the secondary and secondary from first coil connects via diode to the cap 2 then the same here, secondary from the second coil connects via diode to cap 1.
Another test. I replaced the capacitors with 5 100F/2.7v supercapacitors, 5 for each side. Now system is running loosing very little power but not stable or going up.
Conclusions: I believe that replacing the transistors with thyristors we can have better results. Lately I have done many experiments with thyristors and I am very impressed.
Below is a picture with the setup I used.
Best regards,
Romero

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 05, 2013, 08:47:53 PM

Hey Romero ;D

What turns ratio did you use for your toroid?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 05, 2013, 08:49:56 PM

What was toroid core made of?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: romerouk on February 05, 2013, 08:55:38 PM

16 turns for the primary and 18 for the secondary.
I don't know exact properties of the toroid, it is ferrite 7.5 cm external diameter and 5.5 cm internal diameter, 2 cm thick.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 05, 2013, 08:56:42 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on February 05, 2013, 08:49:56 PM
What was toroid core made of?

Could be ferrite, iron oxide, iron tape, iron powder and other exotic materials. ;]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 10:29:16 PM

33000 uf 63vdc 2 pcs 70hkd ea
Used transformer marini made in italy
4 Input terminal 2mm wire
6 Output 23 awg
Coil size 3 by 3 in iron core good for testing
Time to sleep 1130 am

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2013, 10:38:47 PM

Good to hear from your test results
Replication on a budget string will viral to replicators
Happy experimenti.g

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 06, 2013, 01:07:29 AM

From what I read in the pat., the capacitance 'neutralizes' the self induction. ???

Neutralize the self induction. Not reduce, but neutralize.

In a transformer, what would this mean?

Here is the pat below. Only 2 pages of text.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on February 06, 2013, 05:18:11 AM

It is written right there in the patent. At certain f the current passes without resistance other than ohmic.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 06, 2013, 05:45:10 AM

plasma arc mod by peter linderman yt

plus and minus pulse from 555 timer goes to n/o to charge a cap 160vdc then to an ignition coil so supply is isolated or drycontact
the positive of input from ignition coil is coonnected to a 20 k hv diode then to the output hv that boost the spark into plasma in the spark plug
gyula can consider this simple ckt

totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 06, 2013, 05:48:41 AM

charging acapacitor
i used only wall type 400 ma 12v dc supply thats why the caps are not fullyncharged????
maybe a 12v 7 ah sla will.be better to pre charge???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 06, 2013, 06:53:27 AM

Quote from: romerouk on February 05, 2013, 08:39:32 PM
...
Now I realised that a full bridge rectifier will not help as it sends power to both capacitors at the same time killing the source instead of charging the other capacitor. I replaced the bridge rectifiers with a single diode for each side of the circuit checking the polarity of the coils. Now when cap 1 discharges most of the power goes into cap 2, these where my assumptions then tested and I was right, system is running for about 3 minutes then it stops. The way I wound the coils is with primary coil on top of the secondary and secondary from first coil connects via diode to the cap 2 then the same here, secondary from the second coil connects via diode to cap 1.
Another test. I replaced the capacitors with 5 100F/2.7v supercapacitors, 5 for each side. Now system is running loosing very little power but not stable or going up.
Conclusions: I believe that replacing the transistors with thyristors we can have better results. Lately I have done many experiments with thyristors and I am very impressed.
Below is a picture with the setup I used.
Best regards,
Romero

Hi Romero,

Thanks for doing tests on this and sharing your results, albeit I myself think it is Tito who would come forward and share some more of his "secrets" he has STILL been withholding... 8) Of course it is up to him to come forward again...

I have been aware of the bridges's charging both caps at the same time, (I wrote to totoalas, the winding sense of coils L3 and L4 were mentioned as bridges always conduct in the right direction, here http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352243/#msg352243 and I postponed this issue then) and I have now drawn a schematic with single diodes and indicated the hopefully correct polarities for the coils with black dots. I think when S1 is just switched off, the voltage spike can drive charging current into C2 via diode D2 (D1 cannot conduct in this instance) and when S2 is just switched off, the voltage spike can drive charging current into C1 via diode D1 (D2 cannot conduct in this instance).

Now that you have found the initial charge tends to be consumed from the capacitors, obviously the "secret" can either be in the coils (Tito mentioned first Tesla bifilar pancake coils and also simple transformers) or maybe the starting voltage amplitude in the caps is also important, perhaps going up to the some tens of Volts as the initial level (30 - 50V DC or maybe even higher) could help, I am guassing of course. Higher starting voltages involve at least 400V or even higher rated switching device, also with very low ON resistance with respect to the coil losses. I am yet to understand why thyristors could be better candidates than (MOSFET) switches if you meant that, albeit this question is not the crucial one of course.
I also think that reducing the ON time of the switches S1 and S2 (duty cycle) may help in reducing input power, this needs further tests of course, together with the increase of the initial voltage levels of the capacitors C1 and C2. (I assume your starting voltage was initially 10-12V in the caps first.)

Greetings
Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 06, 2013, 07:20:56 AM

Hi Magluvin,

Obviously resonance is involved in that Tesla patent you mention. A good question would be whether a series or a parallel resonance? In case of parallel resonance were involved, a higher value but purely "ohmic" resistance would be needed to consider for the amount of input current need, and in case of series resonance a small value but also purely "ohmic" resistance would be needed to consider from the input current neccessity.
So one advantage of this bifilar pancake coil setup is there is no inductive reactance when you switch such electromagnet on provided you use a DC pulse having a frequency that matches that of the such coil setup. This would involve no bemf kickback like any conventional electromagnet coil or any coil produces when pulsed in general. However, an electromagnet built with such pancake coils would surely work excellently.

In a transformer with such coil setups I assume it would represent pure "ohmic" resistance to the input AC voltage at the AC frequency, power factor would be always 1 but how it would behave under a load at the secondary, it should be tested...

Gyula

Quote from: Magluvin on February 06, 2013, 01:07:29 AM
From what I read in the pat., the capacitance 'neutralizes' the self induction. ???

Neutralize the self induction. Not reduce, but neutralize.

In a transformer, what would this mean?

Here is the pat below. Only 2 pages of text.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 06, 2013, 08:02:52 AM

ha ha ha haaaa haah haah aaaah ah ah ah :o

Sir gyula-sun

as soon as you drop misleading concepts of parallel or series resonant circuit you could understood what Tesla was searching for ;)

ask yourself how to build resonant circuit with no reactive power, you will find a way to not kill the dipole...but ....you must limit tarcie to 0.0001 or soemthing
investigate tito circuit with this in mind

freedom freedom
and podmod :P

p.s. should I start to talk in own language like tito ? ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 06, 2013, 08:14:07 AM

Quote from: forest on February 06, 2013, 08:02:52 AM
....
p.s. should I start to talk in own language like tito ? ::)

Well, I think if you start talking in English and it is technically has meaning that would be good for everybody.

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 06, 2013, 08:34:24 AM

Quote from: forest on February 06, 2013, 08:02:52 AM

ha ha ha haaaa haah haah aaaah ah ah ah :o

Sir gyula-sun

as soon as you drop misleading concepts of parallel or series resonant circuit you could understood what Tesla was searching for ;)

ask yourself how to build resonant circuit with no reactive power, you will find a way to not kill the dipole...but ....you must limit tarcie to 0.0001 or soemthing
investigate tito circuit with this in mind

freedom freedom
and podmod :P

p.s. should I start to talk in own language like tito ? ::)

Sir forest,
Pls. share what you know so we can have a happy ending... ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 06, 2013, 09:51:58 AM

I guess, this patent can be at least helpful to understand some aspects of resonance:

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 06, 2013, 10:14:58 AM

Nothing is lost at least we start building in a healthy discussion
Thnx gyula and romero for the update

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: romerouk on February 06, 2013, 10:24:37 AM

@gyulasun (http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=profile;u=173)
the only time I could properly charge one capacitor by discharging another one was when I used thyristors. It can be done using mosfets but in my opinion the ON time must be increased not decreased allowing to totaly discharge the source capacitor. Using thyristors is simple because when using DC with thyristor, will stay locked until source power is completely gone.
Using thyristors is the closest to mechanical or spark gap, wich is the best, also thyristors are not that easy to destroy, I have abused them a lot and few times after a major failure I was sure tha thyristor is gone but it was not.
This is only my opinion, maybe I am wrong...
Regards,
Romero

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 06, 2013, 12:15:02 PM

Hi Romero,

When I wrote I am yet to get why thyristor is preferred here in series with coils for switching I mainly considered the ON resistance and its associated loss and switching speed. But what you consider as advantage for capacitors to discharge them with thyristors is ok with me and agree, together with all the good features you find with them.
The reason I did not consider the full discharge of the capacitors in this circuit is that it is easier to recharge a not fully discharged cap then an empty one, the load an empty cap imposes on a source is quasi a short circuit in the first moment of recharging. Of course when I do not fully discharge a cap then I may be forced to raise the working voltage level to make up for a certain energy content in the caps.
So you are not at all wrong with your reasonings and findings.

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 06, 2013, 05:17:22 PM

Began working on Teets' circuit last night, hopefully finishing this evg or tomorrow, using Gyula's modded circuit here http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352377/#msg352377 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352377/#msg352377)

4 turns on 2 primaries, multi-stranded steel wire 20 AWG
30 turns on 2 secondaries, 28 (?) AWG copper wire
Pulsing with 2 identical relays, wired backward to self-oscillate
On ferrite toroid

Not sure if steel multi-stranded wire is going to be a problem. If anyone has any thoughts, I'd be glad to hear it. I just got cheap... but I do have copper wire same size I can use.

If any significant results, will report them
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 06, 2013, 05:33:23 PM

Hi Bob,

Just noticed your mail, maybe the 4 turns cannot make high enough inductance for the primaries? Because the oscillation frequency of the the two relays could be low (less than 100-200 Hz?) so the 4 turns may represent quasi short circuit unless your ferrite core has an extreme high permeability. Also, perhaps the steel wire (is it attracted by magnet?) is not the best choice here where there surely are unknown factors not told by Teets but who knows maybe the steel wire the winner... :D
What uF and DC rated capacitors do you happen to use?

good luck,
Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 06, 2013, 05:41:26 PM

Hi Gyula
Thanks for the feedback. I'll go ahead and try once I've got it all hooked up.
I started off with two simple EM relays like this one, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Relay_Parts.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Relay_Parts.jpg) but little result. Also noticed no spark. Tonite, I'll use a cradle relay, which actually produces a spark ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Relay2.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Relay2.jpg)

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 06, 2013, 05:42:18 PM

The way I wound the coils is with primary coil on top of the secondary and secondary from first coil connects via diode to the cap 2 then the same here, secondary from the second coil connects via diode to cap 1.
Above quote from Romerouk
Hi Gyula
my understanding is caps are connected opposite source charge
meaning when L1 is energized by C1, the secondary sends the charge to C2
and when C2 is close the secondary L4 sends the charge to C1
please correct me if im wrong
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 06, 2013, 06:11:43 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 06, 2013, 05:42:18 PM
The way I wound the coils is with primary coil on top of the secondary and secondary from first coil connects via diode to the cap 2 then the same here, secondary from the second coil connects via diode to cap 1.
Above quote from Romerouk
Hi Gyula
my understanding is caps are connected opposite source charge
meaning when L1 is energized by C1, the secondary sends the charge to C2
and when C2 is close the secondary L4 sends the charge to C1
please correct me if im wrong
totoalas

Yes I hope I get what you mean and how Romero meant but in case of Romero we do not know his coils phasing for that description he wrote but it could be figured out of course. On phasing I mean the black dots I used in my drawing. You can influence phasing by winding sense (cw or ccw) or simply by replacing the wire ends of a coil.
So I apologize if I used the black dots on the wrong place, I believe they are correct. I based the placement of dots on considering bemf spikes at switch-offs of the primaries and those spikes I think appear with positive polarity at the dotted wire of L3 when L2 is just switched off, and the spikes will appear with also positive polarities at the undotted wire of L4 when L1 is just switched off, so in both cases the diodes would direct those positive spikes into the caps as shown.
Maybe I am wrong and confused something, please anyone comment if this is the case, I did not test this in practice.

Thanks, Gyula

EDIT tomorrow I will make a drawing as per Romero described it with the single diodes, must finish now.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 06, 2013, 06:47:42 PM

thanks gyula
but if in your drawing L3 secondary ( from 2nd primary) and L4 secondary ( under L1 primary) then its correct..... anyway
one more day and Ill be off to test .....the circuit.....
all wirings are connected to terminal block for easy alteration
im just preparing all the parts for the tests tomorrow. any update info/ drawings are welcome
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 07, 2013, 03:05:31 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 06, 2013, 01:07:29 AM
From what I read in the pat., the capacitance 'neutralizes' the self induction. ???

Neutralize the self induction. Not reduce, but neutralize.

In a transformer, what would this mean?

Here is the pat below. Only 2 pages of text.

Mags

It actually correcting it, that's why capacitor is also called a power corrector. ;)

and that is also the reason that gives way to free energy. :)

really a wonderful work of a cap. ;)

@everyone

First thing to solve, to energize a lot of coil first we need a strong stress of magnetic field ok?

Then sometimes we ask, why there's a lot of coils needed. ??? :o

I think sir forest can contribute something, cause the way he talk i smell strong energy he is experiencing, he even having problems what to do with it. am i right sir? ;)

and i believe sir Romero can add some magic. ;)

by the highway, multi strand wire is just used for heat solution and fast kicking out of eddy currents 8)

goodluck and be careful friends :)

God bless- courtesy of sir qwert's sarcasm ;D

Tito L. Oracion ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 07, 2013, 04:22:39 AM

That means strong or high pulse voltage
In my fly swatter spark gap relay tests hv spike on secondary coil connected to earth wster piperegisteref 1000plus v using only a small 4.8 v dc rechargeanle battery
To noost this as peter linderman did he used the pulse positive of the coil to combine with hv put via a hv 20k diode
;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 07, 2013, 06:38:31 AM

Hi to all

Imho regular relay wont work in tits circuit coz it can only switch on and off at a low frequency. Now what if we use piezo as relay? We all know that piezo can vibrate at very high frequency so im thinking it might work in parallel LC tank circuit..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 07, 2013, 06:50:35 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 06, 2013, 06:47:42 PM
thanks gyula
but if in your drawing L3 secondary ( from 2nd primary) and L4 secondary ( under L1 primary) then its correct..... anyway
one more day and Ill be off to test .....the circuit.....
all wirings are connected to terminal block for easy alteration
im just preparing all the parts for the tests tomorrow. any update info/ drawings are welcome
totoalas

Hi totoalas,

I show you a schematic where diode D1 charges C2 when you switch S1 off and diode D2 charges C1 when you switch S2 off. It all depends on wire end connections and / or winding sense of coils, it is good to use terminal block for doing easy variations.

I include another schematic to check in a simply way how much voltage can be captured in C2 when you switch S1 off. Just charge up C1 to start this test and for S1 just use the (black-dotted) wire end of coil L1. Start with say 10 or 15V DC in C1 and monitor the voltage across C2, try to touch coil wire end to the positive of C1 for a very short time you can so that some Volts may still remain in C1. Of course you can leave S1 on for a full discharge of C1 and see the induced voltage in C2 in that case too.
Your new capacitors are able to keep the charge for a reasonable time? (unlike your 2200uF ones), it is also good idea to monitor the voltage across C1 if it is needed (not a must) and you have two voltmeters.

rgds, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 07, 2013, 06:54:43 AM

@tito

Can u tell us what exactly did u do and u discover the free energy? If im not mistaken what u only did is discharge a capacitor in a coil using relay?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 07, 2013, 06:56:34 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on February 07, 2013, 06:38:31 AM
Hi to all

.... Now what if we use piezo as relay? We all know that piezo can vibrate at very high frequency so im thinking it might work in parallel LC tank circuit..

How you mean to utilize vibration? Yes, relays are slow and limit the maximum frequency.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 07, 2013, 07:09:48 AM

@gyulasun

Using piezo in theory we can make many and shorter dc pulse if we use it as relay. The vibration of piezo relay should match to the frequency of LC tank circuit to sustain its oscillation.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 07, 2013, 07:50:38 AM

nice circuit gyula
lots of variations
neo x any specx on the piezo and circuit ur contribution iswelcome
a ppwm by peter linderman start with ximple pulxing
first is totest this circuit one step at time
cc zny news from ur test
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 07, 2013, 08:57:15 AM

Hi all,
Im a little busy at work lately, but at this moment i cannot get good results from my setup, maybe the kick from the primary is not strong enough with the starting voltage 10- 12vdc from cap to get a higher secondary voltage or equal, need to try another coil setup, where primary bifilar ontop of secondary, i'll make one half of coil only as Mags suggested...
Happy experimenting! :)
Regards
Cc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 07, 2013, 11:32:32 AM

Tesla s birthday today

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 07, 2013, 02:11:38 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 07, 2013, 11:32:32 AM
Tesla s birthday today

Actually, today is Tesla's death day. See any link on like http://www.biography.com/people/nikola-tesla-9504443

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 07, 2013, 02:16:37 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 07, 2013, 08:57:15 AM
Hi all,
Im a little busy at work lately, but at this moment i cannot get good results from my setup, maybe the kick from the primary is not strong enough with the starting voltage 10- 12vdc from cap to get a higher secondary voltage or equal, need to try another coil setup, where primary bifilar ontop of secondary, i'll make one half of coil only as Mags suggested...
Happy experimenting! :)
Regards
Cc

Try to use higher DC voltage level in the caps like 15 - 20V or maybe 30 and so on. Also try to do the test I suggested to totoalas above like collecting the voltage spike of the collapsing flux of L1 in C2, when S1 is just switched off, see the schematic in red rectangle.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 07, 2013, 02:58:27 PM

there is a problem with relays- spark or arc is formed...remember what Tesla said about spark gap looses and why he invented quenched various types
I know why we have so much problems - Tesla routed into HV but also large power to compensate looses...we cannot, right ?
all you need to do is ring the bell and bell rings TWICE and you have to catch second ring or echo ring
that's all
unfortunately I'm struggle with electronics to allow all conditions...very slow progress.....no working device yet >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 07, 2013, 04:52:48 PM

To ring the bell
Use peter linderman plasma mod output in parallel witj s1 and s2 alternately
From spark to plasma from arther as he quoted
Better if the coil is earthed
Any more ideas otits ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 07, 2013, 05:40:32 PM

Hi Romero,

There is one more thing I would like to discuss with you in connection with thyristor switching with respect to Tito's circuit. One thing is that if you let the thyristor discharge a capacitor fully, then the current decays exponentially towards zero and when the thyristor current goes below its minimum sustainable current, it switches off but this is far not as sudden as a controlled MOSFET switch-off can be. AND by the time the thyristor reaches and pass its minimum current limit to conduct, the voltage level across the capacitor may get reduced to a rather low voltage hence the amplitude of the kick back spike at the actual current greatly depends on the thyristor characteristics i.e. at relatively low current and voltage levels the recovered energy going into the capacitors may be also low inherently.

The other thing is that member verpies has posted valuable info on pulse switching coils and the energy content involved with respect to switch-off time, here: http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg352483/#msg352483 where he wrote: "The energy stored in the magnetic field (EL) is recoverable, while the energy converted to heat (ER) in the resistance is not recoverable. The break-even-point happens at approximately 1.15 of the L/R time constant (see point C on the graph, where the green and blue lines cross). Waiting longer than this time guarantees that more energy is dissipated as heat than stored in the magnetic field :( This is true in any circuit where energy is stored in the inductor. Including oscillating LC circuits.
In practice, the process of energy recovery from the inductor also takes time, and during this time the evil resistance also wastes energy, so this recovery process should be kept as short if possible (e.g by keeping the duty cycles low or frequencies high). If the recovery process takes the same amount of time as the inductor charging proceess, then the break-even-point happens two times earlier."

The last sentence defines a stricter ON time for the switch (it is around 0.5*L/R second) than I referred to as to be around 1*L/R in my post to crazycat here: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352281/#msg352281 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352281/#msg352281)

So in this circuit Tito described it seems that a correctly controlled switching device is preferred to use, adapting the optimal switching times to the coils used. I am aware that allowing relatively short ON times for the switches can easily lead to relatively small spike amplitudes again if we start with relatively low capacitor voltage, this also indicates to increase the precharged voltage in the caps from several ten Volts to above a 100 Volts range to get higher discharge current and let it flow in the coils.

I am sure you can find the optimal switch-on time for any coil by using your favorite thyristors too, but for most replicators here such background info on the switch-on time may prove useful and maybe using a more precisely controllable switch makes life easier for them in this respect to achive the best recovery from a collapsing magnetic field.
What do you think?

rgds, Gyula

EDIT: here is verpies earlier post on his topic:
http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg336989/#msg336989

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 07, 2013, 06:17:04 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 07, 2013, 02:16:37 PM
Try to use higher DC voltage level in the caps like 15 - 20V or maybe 30 and so on. Also try to do the test I suggested to totoalas above like collecting the voltage spike of the collapsing flux of L1 in C2, when S1 is just switched off, see the schematic in red rectangle.

Ok i will try that... ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 07, 2013, 06:29:24 PM

Quote from: forest on February 07, 2013, 02:58:27 PM
there is a problem with relays- spark or arc is formed...remember what Tesla said about spark gap looses and why he invented quenched various types
I know why we have so much problems - Tesla routed into HV but also large power to compensate looses...we cannot, right ?
all you need to do is ring the bell and bell rings TWICE and you have to catch second ring or echo ring
that's all
unfortunately I'm struggle with electronics to allow all conditions...very slow progress.....no working device yet >:(

Relay contacts tend to stick when arc is too strong :( How to catch second ring? If first ring should not be affected? Correct Timing?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 07, 2013, 06:34:49 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 07, 2013, 06:29:24 PM
Relay contacts tend to stick when arc is too strong :( How to catch second ring? If first ring should not be affected? Correct Timing?

By pulsing the arcs maybe will solve the problem...on time off time i tried to look for the lawson circuit used in hho and see what can be done
theres another circuit aviso konehead circuit that deals with this
happy weekend

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: romerouk on February 07, 2013, 07:06:29 PM

@gyulasun (http://www.overunity.com/profile/gyulasun.173/)
Hi,
I totally agree with you that a controlled ON time will make Mosfets favourites in this application but that is not all to be considered. Must use multiple mosfets in parallel to get close to the sharp ON/OFF time that thyristors are handling very easy. My suggestions are based on my experiments with higher voltage where before switching to thyristors I have burnet so many mosfets and IGBT's and the results now are almost comparable to a spark gap. In my experiments I found that a very sharp complete discharge of a capacitor is the real deal, I never care about what books are saying, I always try to see with my own eyes.
The best way to test and calculate coil and the capacitor to be used in this experiment is to just use 2 mechanical switches. Charge cap 1 then discharge it and watch voltage in the second cap. Do that slowly repeating and making notes of what you changed. It might look very basic but that helped me many times.
Anyone considered using a different type of conductor? not just ordinary copper?
Anyone tried doped conductors? if not please do, you will see a big difference.
Regards,
Romero

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 07, 2013, 08:06:15 PM

good progress ;D

that's why Tesla choosen high voltage - silly that took verpies so long to catch

tell me : how can you ring rubber bell ? ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 07, 2013, 08:06:56 PM

it's all Newton III law >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 07, 2013, 08:28:20 PM

Hi romero
since im in this already , any recommended simple circuit thyristor mod that I can test with this circuit
almost all chinese shops will close up to Tuesday for the chinese new year ,,, so still have time for shopping the parts
thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: romerouk on February 07, 2013, 08:55:04 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 07, 2013, 08:28:20 PM
Hi romero
since im in this already , any recommended simple circuit thyristor mod that I can test with this circuit
almost all chinese shops will close up to Tuesday for the chinese new year ,,, so still have time for shopping the parts
thanks

Hi,
Just do a search in Google for 'stungun' then click on images. You will find plenty of schematics that can be modified and used here.
Romero

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 07, 2013, 09:05:26 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on February 07, 2013, 06:54:43 AM
@tito

Can u tell us what exactly did u do and u discover the free energy? If im not mistaken what u only did is discharge a capacitor in a coil using relay?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 07, 2013, 09:20:02 PM

Tnhs romero

Tito tikoy k pa rin yur still a chinese rice cake
Very sticky and slmey :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bolt on February 07, 2013, 09:59:52 PM

The "secret" is in the transformer design which can NOT be operated as a normal transformer. Circuit requires sharp DC pulses into a "special" transformer which operates in Assymetric mode.

It is true a spark gap is not required in modern day circuits as we have diodes, fets and scrs etc.

There are many ways to achieve this eg Bifiilar coils, Phase cancelling coils, Bucking coils and shorting coils. Most of this provide a very large SOURCE to LOAD isolation factor which allows the load energy kick to grow as it attempts to QUENCH the source kick signal. The source DC pulse is converted to a series of pulses where the summation of energy provided to the load is greater than the source. Some of this can be tapped and LOOPED. Other methods include alternate flux paths to break the magnetic symmetry as per FLYNN or use a core gap, magnetic shunts, or biased magnetic cores using neos.

The greater the SOURCE to LOAD isolation where BEMF is suppressed the greater the COP. You will never see a COP > 1 in standard transformer operation now matter how you pulse it. or switch it. Its well known that simple BUCK and BOOST circuits typical 83% as PC supplies can reach >97% in syncronous double switched mode. This is proof it is NOT in the switching time or type of pulse circuit to get a COP > 1.

You need to look at MEGS etc and typical of Assymetric transformer circuits should give a COP around 3 to 5 BUT remember stages can be cascaded!!

The free electrons are best gathered from the ground but can be airbourne. This is based on standard Tesla, Don Smith and Kapanadze technology.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 07, 2013, 10:02:59 PM

ok, i already told this example
a long time ago. a doctor is hitting the knee
then the knee automatically
make a kick is it not?, then a
little addition of energy for hitting makes a strong
automatic kick is it not?. now its up to you then to
make a choice for a knee you
want, big, bigger or biggest
kicking knee but just the
same constant hitting in a
point you want. it should be an automatic
jetmatic eucolytic and add
some latik para masarap ang
kalamay hahahhahahahhha lol Maglalatik
Tito L. Oracion

--- End quote ---

Nd ako mahilig sa tikoy pero mahilig ako sa kalamay :D

Maybe I should act now and not waste my time here. I like to start experimenting but i have no materials needed. I have no high voltage capacitor and big solid copper coil. Maybe i should construct a homemade high voltage capacitor and use stranded copper coil instead of solid?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 08, 2013, 12:11:17 AM

Nd ako mahilig sa tikoy pero mahilig ako sa kalamay :D

Maybe I should act now and not waste my time here. I like to start experimenting but i have no materials needed. I have no high voltage capacitor and big solid copper coil. Maybe i should construct a homemade high voltage capacitor and use stranded copper coil instead of solid?

Hi Neo-X,
You can go to your local scrapyard or junkshops to get the parts for experiments with low costs, like you can get caps and copper wire from old tv sets (like i do) or from microwave ovens etc....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: kEhYo77 on February 08, 2013, 01:56:36 AM

Hi.

I've come across this (http://"https://www.dropbox.com/s/u5jb2bveg9bbhq7/Osamu%20Ide%20-%20Increased%20voltage%20phenomenon%20in%20a%20resonance%20circuit%20of%20unconventional%20magnetic%20configuration.pdf") research paper and the results speak for themselves.

Osamu Ide - Increased voltage phenomenon in a resonance circuit of unconventional magnetic configuration

Parametric resonance and opposing magnetic poles of two facing electromagnets, that's the KEY!

It would explain Magnacoaster's and Romero's devices quite well...

I think I'll build a setup for this :D

Cheers!
kEhYo

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2013, 02:46:25 AM

energy amplification pt 1 080113 yt totoalas

using gyulas tito circuit 3 in red box for test
using e core
bifilar connected in series with 12 v relay and switch contact by flyswatter no cap
loadis connected to led
l4 is in series with water tap then is either connected to pos or neg of 33000 uf 63v dc
L3 cap is being charged
more testto come

ps check mopozco comment about titos circuit in yt tros aviso coil shortening

totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2013, 05:36:47 AM

Energy amplification pt2 in/out going up yt toto alas
Ch

Tito check this out hehehe

Thanks to gyula and romerouk

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 08, 2013, 06:11:49 AM

Hi totoalas,

In Part 2, without the use of the ring magnet the voltages do not increase in the caps?
Try to remove the magnet BUT do not fully attach the E core parts together, leave a variable air gap and fine tune the (gap) distance to see how the voltages change. USe thick card board or wood or plastic pieces for keeping the distance between the E cores controllable and defineable.
One more question: in PArt 2, do you use earth ground? If yes, where do you connect it?
When you go the China, try to buy an L meter... LOL

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 08, 2013, 06:20:47 AM

Hi Romero,

Thanks and what I have written or suggested to folks here so far as pieces of advice was based on my past experience, unfortunately nowadays I cannot do so much tests personally like some years ago. So regarding the usage of different conductors like Alu or iron wire etc is to be explored.

Best regards,
Gyula

Quote from: romerouk on February 07, 2013, 07:06:29 PM
@gyulasun (http://www.overunity.com/profile/gyulasun.173/)
Hi,
I totally agree with you that a controlled ON time will make Mosfets favourites in this application but that is not all to be considered. Must use multiple mosfets in parallel to get close to the sharp ON/OFF time that thyristors are handling very easy. My suggestions are based on my experiments with higher voltage where before switching to thyristors I have burnet so many mosfets and IGBT's and the results now are almost comparable to a spark gap. In my experiments I found that a very sharp complete discharge of a capacitor is the real deal, I never care about what books are saying, I always try to see with my own eyes.
The best way to test and calculate coil and the capacitor to be used in this experiment is to just use 2 mechanical switches. Charge cap 1 then discharge it and watch voltage in the second cap. Do that slowly repeating and making notes of what you changed. It might look very basic but that helped me many times.
Anyone considered using a different type of conductor? not just ordinary copper?
Anyone tried doped conductors? if not please do, you will see a big difference.
Regards,
Romero

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 08, 2013, 06:21:07 AM

That's a good start :) question? In video #2, Are you using the fly swatter as input power? Pulsing the primary coil?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2013, 06:38:35 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 08, 2013, 06:11:49 AM
Hi totoalas,

In Part 2, without the use of the ring magnet the voltages do not increase in the caps?
Try to remove the magnet BUT do not fully attach the E core parts together, leave a variable air gap and fine tune the (gap) distance to see how the voltages change. USe thick card board or wood or plastic pieces for keeping the distance between the E cores controllable and defineable.
One more question: in PArt 2, do you use earth ground? If yes, where do you connect it?
When you go the China, try to buy an L meter... LOL

Gyula
thick cardboard is conducting on the load
without half of the e core or load the voltage is is rising on the input and output caps and also without magnets when i lifted the other half top e core
i was shocked again same feeling if you touch a 220 v live wire
l meter specs please
conclusion
using water tap pipe as earth on pos or neg of input c1
spark gap using 12v relayy no contact
fly swatter no contact output for s1
both input and output caps are charging
:) :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2013, 06:46:08 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 08, 2013, 06:21:07 AM
That's a good start :) question? In video #2, Are you using the fly swatter as input power? Pulsing the primary coil?

theinput cap is precharged by tapping 12v dc initially
the normally open contact on the output of the flyswatter discharged an arc on the no contact of the relay thereby closing the loop the arc is boosted by the water tap pipe connection
either we can use an ignition coil or crt tv ignition coil and boost the arc into plasma
diy the downfall more mosquitoes to multiply lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2013, 06:49:30 AM

cannot post the link as my pc cannot connect to overunity.com dont know why.... my galaxy tab and note2 are k but hard to use the yt link any ideas how to solve my pc glitch

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 08, 2013, 07:08:01 AM

Hi totoalas

without the earth no voltage raise?

this is a reasonable LC meter http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-C-High-Precision-Inductance-Capacitance-LC-Meter-Two-Clips-For-SMD-DIP-/170934675038?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cc80265e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-C-High-Precision-Inductance-Capacitance-LC-Meter-Two-Clips-For-SMD-DIP-/170934675038?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cc80265e)

somewhere you may find it in China maybe cheaper? be careful when comparing measurement ranges.

this is your channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/imtotob (http://www.youtube.com/user/imtotob)

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2013, 07:16:54 AM

can shop only next week for the L meter as all shops are close starting tomorrow for chinese new year
im planning to loop the 5 v dc battery from the fly swatter or a slayer or anything to pulse the circuit
but the hv pulse from ignition coil from peter linderman will be great ...will see if i can get an ignition coil 12v dc
2 fly swatter pulse for the side coils wrapped with earth wire connected to water pipe maybe will increase the load output

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2013, 07:20:58 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 08, 2013, 07:08:01 AM
Hi totoalas

without the earth no voltage raise?
without earth theres a slow charging going on and the spark glow is not so bright see part 1

with earth theres a white spark and charging fast on the input caps ....

this is a reasonable LC meter http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-C-High-Precision-Inductance-Capacitance-LC-Meter-Two-Clips-For-SMD-DIP-/170934675038?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cc80265e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-C-High-Precision-Inductance-Capacitance-LC-Meter-Two-Clips-For-SMD-DIP-/170934675038?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cc80265e)

somewhere you may find it in China maybe cheaper? be careful when comparing measurement ranges.

this is your channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/imtotob (http://www.youtube.com/user/imtotob)

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2013, 07:41:02 AM

latest test
no L4 coil and earth connected to water pipe load connected
same fast charging on the c1 and c2
so the arc is the key got it lol

now we can harness the arc or plasma to kick start the charging
will post the video later

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 08, 2013, 09:41:27 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 08, 2013, 07:16:54 AM
can shop only next week for the L meter as all shops are close starting tomorrow for chinese new year

Here is a better and cheaper ebay offer (open only after February 17) on LC meter, type LC100-A :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LC100-A-Digital-LCD-High-Precision-Inductance-Capacitance-L-C-Multimeter-Meter-/300821886212?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460a61b504

Notice that the A suffix (i.e. LC100-A as in the above link) has the extended measuring range for capacitors up to 100 milliFarad i.e. 100.000 uF. (IF you find LC100-S i.e. with S suffix, it measures caps to 10 uF only. and if you are offered LC100 without any suffix then it measures caps up to 1uF only...)
The inductance measurement range starts from less than 1uH and goes up to 100 Henry so has a very wide range.
Here you can see that a real LC100-A type LC meter has 4 color buttons to select high or low measurement ranges etc while the other LC100 types has only 2 or 3 color buttons:
http://www.goodluckbuy.com/images/detailed_images2/fe0c4b9cca69e8263cee0e05441e7567.jpg

The DC power is +5V and can be run from the USB output of a PC (mini USB cable is normally included).

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2013, 11:28:03 AM

i remember i saw same model in one of the shop will see nest week

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2013, 12:11:07 PM

arc/plasma charger 090213 yt toto alas
earth from water pipe and series L4 coil removed and both caps still charging
spark changed to plasma when earth is connected to pos or neg of input cap
;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2013, 12:35:44 PM

Charge conserving capacitive spring post no 254 page 9 by supercavitationistic energetic forum
a good explanation of what tito is saying

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 09, 2013, 11:33:09 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 08, 2013, 12:35:44 PM
Charge conserving capacitive spring post no 254 page 9 by supercavitationistic energetic forum
a good explanation of what tito is saying

Can you be more specific? Thread title? Or better copy and paste whole address?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 09, 2013, 12:12:04 PM

Charge conserving capacitive spring thread title
Sorry for the inconvenience since i cannot open ou in my pc so i have link problem issue
Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 09, 2013, 01:12:45 PM

I think this is the post:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6557-charge-conserving-capacitive-spring-9.html#post193237 (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6557-charge-conserving-capacitive-spring-9.html#post193237)
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 09, 2013, 05:41:08 PM

Thanks bob
Can you please also post a link on use for tesla switch thread you just quote matthew jones tpday no 4106 energetic forum
It describes tito circuit 3 but no detail on the switch used
Thanks fixed my link
http://www.energeticforum.com/224420-post4106.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/224420-post4106.html)
http://www.energeticforum.com/224422-post4107.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/224422-post4107.html)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 09, 2013, 10:26:22 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 09, 2013, 05:41:08 PM
Thanks bob
Can you please also post a link on use for tesla switch thread you just quote matthew jones tpday no 4106 energetic forum
It describes tito circuit 3 but no detail on the switch used
Thanks fixed my link
http://www.energeticforum.com/224420-post4106.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/224420-post4106.html)
http://www.energeticforum.com/224422-post4107.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/224422-post4107.html)

Totoalas,
I don't have a link for the Tesla switch. I just read and observe successes and failures. The post by Matthew Jones seemed consistent with some elements of the TMT, and this is what Tito told us to concentrate on.

The way I understand it, the TMT's resonance was what enabled it to behave as a transceiver of radiant energy (Forest alluded to this on EF in the post above mine). You have a pulsed primary, secondary, resonant coil, conductor and capacitive top. The earth is the resonant cavity underneath it, filled with radiant energy. Once the TMT is at resonance, it opens the dipole between the positively charged top and ground, where the radiant energy flows in.

I don't have Tito's pingpong circuit figured out. But I think the pulsed primary, secondary and resonant coil idea from the TMT is important.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 10, 2013, 04:00:55 AM

Bob....not that fast my friend. Earth is resonant cavity but TMT as you described is a HAMMER. Now, take hammer and resonant cavity and try to hit cavity with hammer....and what do you get ? :( Dull sound, no more.
Giving a bit more from that precious info (the whole picture is simple but still in fog or misinformation and luck of details) : with hammer you have a special construction with a mass on top in special shape and so on , and you have to have momentum to use it. See analogy ? Elevated capacitance, special oscillator loosely coupled secondary, extra coil to rise momentum.
This is BIG MISTAKE people make again and again....without trying to think clearly.... ;D

You should clear yourself from the thought that tuning fork in all Tesla pictures from articles describing his effords is a Tesla coil alone or TMT as you described... more later....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 10, 2013, 08:33:11 AM

Hi Forest
I'm listening...
Every analogy limps, because it is one step away from the reality.
But does not the TMT's resonance between negative ground and positive atmospheric elevation, create an open dipole to allow in the rush of RE?
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 10, 2013, 09:34:25 AM

Tnx for the pointerrs guys nice wdekend
Lesson 1
That secondary coils Ring my bell
A spark in the primary charges c1 and c2
That use of hv pulse you call hammer will do the trick
That a lawton for duty and speed is applicable
That earth is a natural booster
Questio.n
Will a single switch be used for pulsing
How to conduct phase 2 of the experiment
In reference to tito circuit 3
Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Doug1 on February 10, 2013, 10:13:06 AM

Is the special oscillator loosely coupled a transducer function?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2013, 02:05:09 PM

Hey Totoalas
Is this your video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y79-7R-B5R4&feature=player_embedded

I cant find that you posted it in this thread. Do you have a circuit diagram for this?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 10, 2013, 03:54:49 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 10, 2013, 02:05:09 PM
Hey Totoalas
Is this your video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y79-7R-B5R4&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y79-7R-B5R4&feature=player_embedded)

I cant find that you posted it in this thread. Do you have a circuit diagram for this?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 10, 2013, 04:07:53 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 10, 2013, 02:05:09 PM
Hey Totoalas
Is this your video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y79-7R-B5R4&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y79-7R-B5R4&feature=player_embedded)

I cant find that you posted it in this thread. Do you have a circuit diagram for this?

Mags

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352452/#msg352452 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352452/#msg352452)

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352515/#msg352515 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352515/#msg352515)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2013, 05:22:34 PM

Hey Toto Toto. Like a Tito alter ego. ;D

Is the fly killer zapper running off of the circuit or its own battery?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 10, 2013, 05:36:31 PM

the fly swatter has a rechargeable 4.5 v dc battery inside
alter ego hmmm no more 3 years lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2013, 05:43:32 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 10, 2013, 05:36:31 PM

alter ego hmmm no more 3 years lol

;)

So is the 4.5v batt being charged by the circuit also?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 10, 2013, 05:55:15 PM

If it is loop by its output yes but will surely overcharge lol

The fly swatter is a separate circuit.....not powered by c1 and c2
If you can use motorcycle 12 v ignition coil
Ps see again peter linderman plasma mod
In yt
Plasma can be utilized jist like a hammer to a knee
By dr tits.....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2013, 06:00:25 PM

;D So, do you attribute the effects seen as a result of using a bifilar coil as a primary ?

Thanks for showing that. ;)

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 10, 2013, 06:04:58 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 10, 2013, 06:00:25 PM
;D So, do you attribute the effects seen as a result of using a bifilar coil as a primary ?

Thanks for showing that. ;)

mags

I love pancakes but it will not fit in my e core
But yhe kick is present
When gyula adk me to lift tje load coil e core
I was shockrd by the gerrite same feeling if you touch a 240 v ac live wire wjich happen to me many times in my line of work

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2013, 06:16:29 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 10, 2013, 06:04:58 PM
I love pancakes but it will not fit in my e core
But yhe kick is present
When gyula adk me to lift tje load coil e core
I was shockrd by the gerrite same feeling if you touch a 240 v ac live wire wjich happen to me many times in my line of work

No not a pancake. lol The coil on the middle post of the ecore in your diagram above. It is a bifilar coil, isnt it?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 10, 2013, 06:28:51 PM

ps check Mopozco comment Tros Aviso Coil Shortening yt
He said, yes you have both increases cuz of scillation in center tap of ferrite( and led on the top too, its common spark gap oscillation)
but you have to monitor the decrease of power in input source ( 4.5vdc)
when it balanced ( in few minutes) , you will see slow decrease on all meter... cheers Mopozco
above is the comment
Now,
If I used the primary to loop back to the flyswatter or ignition coil or crt hv or slayer tesla by tesla tronix ????? to make the primary unbalance with the secondary ??????
Then what.... my wife will kill me if I tear down my fifth swatter lol
any ideas are welcome and maybe you can replicate and share other mods
:) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 10, 2013, 06:30:31 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 10, 2013, 06:16:29 PM
No not a pancake. lol The coil on the middle post of the ecore in your diagram above. It is a bifilar coil, isnt it?

Mags

Yes its bifilar with tesla pancake in mind just followed its wireing connection

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2013, 06:51:45 PM

Very cool.

Well, if you use the load coil to charge the 4.5v bat instead of powering the led... ;) Use the load coil to charge a cap and use a 7805 5v regulator IC to charge the 4.5v. ;D

Thanks Toto. Its nice to get straight answers once in a while. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 10, 2013, 08:03:17 PM

thanks mags
Ive noticed that fly swatter circuit easily get busted either due to long charging/ and output used in continuous mode
a better circuit is appropriate for the next experiment to proceed
lost my lawton circuit board ... need to build again any schematics please simple one as Peter linderman used????

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2013, 08:24:22 PM

hmmmm ::)

coool, not bad guys, very happy for you, cause frank sinatra says "YOU DID IT YOUR WAY" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aht9hcDFyVw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aht9hcDFyVw)

WELL, not quite the same as mine but that's very good buddy. ;)

much better if you could eliminate or convert the spark into usable electricity, AND THAT'S PERFECT!. :) 8)
And also those magnets should be eliminated to make it looks professional. ;)

@toto
here is your round clap of applause:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9NIZOvfKpc

BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVOOO >:(

BRO MAGS IS STILL HAS A SIGN OF MADS ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 10, 2013, 10:14:53 PM

thanks tito
were trying to do as near as possible to what you are saying
the magnet is just to hold the other e core and not needed
the plasma boys sooner or later will take care this charging http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn2sPu3ZuNs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn2sPu3ZuNs) :) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2013, 10:55:55 PM

I have to find it, but from what I remember, it was one of Teslas lectures or debates.....

He said that the higher the voltage the better the bifi works. Something like that.

So maybe this is where the Igniter circuit comes in....

So lets say that there is a little gain from using a bifi primary. Well if we up the voltage using the Igniter, which converts efficiently, from 12v, up to say 100v. Then we have higher voltage to input to the bifi primary, giving us more efficiency, in order to send more back to the battery than was used.

I have a small ferrite core and bobbin I will try this on.

The pat is provided below.

Same circuit only add a diode for unidirectional flow from the batt and use a bifi in place of the thick primary in the pat pic below.

Will think more on it before I build it.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 10, 2013, 11:37:00 PM

If we take the bifilar coil separate the windings and apply dc to each coil separate you will find the coils have an opposite polarity they oppose each other.
So if ac is applied to the bifilar coil we have a coil that produces opposite spinning fields, I have found that opposite spinning fields causes charge separation whereas coils with the same polarity do not.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 11, 2013, 12:25:28 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on February 10, 2013, 11:37:00 PM
If we take the bifilar coil separate the windings and apply dc to each coil separate you will find the coils have an opposite polarity they oppose each other.
So if ac is applied to the bifilar coil we have a coil that produces opposite spinning fields, I have found that opposite spinning fields causes charge separation whereas coils with the same polarity do not.

Hey Dave

Not sure what you mean. What would be the advantage of this. ;D

Im under the 'impression' that it is possible that a series bifi might have different effects than using a single winding primary, in relation to the secondary.

Once I have it made it can be configured other ways, if you have suggestions. I have to figure out what wire and no. of turns that will fit for a bifi primary and a single secondary winding. Im thinking of using very thin wire for the bifi primary and winding as many as 4 to 6 wires at the same time. If it is 4, then 2 and 2 will be in parallel connection and bifi series as 2 and 2. If 6 will fit, then 3 and 3. This will increase the capacitance vs having just 2 larger wires side by side. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 11, 2013, 01:05:34 AM

In an induction cooker
There are 18 strands of litz wire
Gegene induction by j l naudin

Romerouk also used litz wire
More surface area for induction

Totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 11, 2013, 02:59:22 AM

okay! okay!

Let's cook some wires ;D

I really love cooking. There are lots of chef here. :D

well, not a bad idea. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 11, 2013, 03:04:21 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on February 10, 2013, 11:37:00 PM
If we take the bifilar coil separate the windings and apply dc to each coil separate you will find the coils have an opposite polarity they oppose each other.
So if ac is applied to the bifilar coil we have a coil that produces opposite spinning fields, I have found that opposite spinning fields causes charge separation whereas coils with the same polarity do not.

That's fascinating! and that's a great discovery buddy. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=830zDTm55-w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni_IM_wcfao
;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 11, 2013, 03:39:56 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 11, 2013, 02:59:22 AM
okay! okay!
ni aling kikay

Let's cook some wires ;D

I really love cooking. There are lots of chef here. :D

well, not a bad idea. ;)

so you will shoot a video for us even its sideways in the screen for non disclosure lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 11, 2013, 05:31:07 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 11, 2013, 12:25:28 AM
Hey Dave

Not sure what you mean. What would be the advantage of this. ;D

Im under the 'impression' that it is possible that a series bifi might have different effects than using a single winding primary, in relation to the secondary.

Once I have it made it can be configured other ways, if you have suggestions. I have to figure out what wire and no. of turns that will fit for a bifi primary and a single secondary winding. Im thinking of using very thin wire for the bifi primary and winding as many as 4 to 6 wires at the same time. If it is 4, then 2 and 2 will be in parallel connection and bifi series as 2 and 2. If 6 will fit, then 3 and 3. This will increase the capacitance vs having just 2 larger wires side by side. ;)

Mags

Hi Mags,
I've tried a bifi primary and a single secondary, input draw is minimum and output is also minimum, then i use half of primary, draw went up a bit, output also, then i paralleled bifi primary, input draw went up more, output also, i think if we are using dc pulsing, we need a low resistance primary, maybe bifi or multifilar all paralled, like what is used in many inverters and maybe a tesla bifillar is more efficient as a secondary, like what JLN did with the induction cooker....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 11, 2013, 11:09:30 PM

Been thinking about the zener diode. Tito said 'at least 3v"

1 of 2 things it could possibly be used for.

1 Which Ive always thought might be the case was that the 3v was used as a trigger, to discharge when a cycle was at that point. But considering the simplicity of the circuit he had shown at the time, Im not really sure.

2 Could it be used to stop the discharge of a cap when it gets down to 3v? Maybe in the flow of things the zener cuts off due to insufficient reverse bias, but the cap is not down to 3v yet. :o ;D Could this be a way to disrupt the discharge, blow out the spark? The discharge could be through the zener in order to stop the dc current mid flow, or at least before the cap reaches zero volts.

Still contemplating what wire and no. of turns for this lil bugger.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 11, 2013, 11:12:56 PM

This thread has passed 1000 reads in the last 24 hours. ;D I hope this works out somehow, for all. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 11, 2013, 11:51:55 PM

A zener diode impedes voltage, it usually prevents over voltage on circuits, i don't know how it will be used on tito's circuit, is there any other use of a zener? Other than what we know?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 11, 2013, 11:59:06 PM

Say the cap is charged to 10v, for example. The zener is inline with the discharge switch in reverse bias to the discharge current. Close the switch and the cap will discharge through the zener because the voltage across it is above 3v and when the voltage gets down to 3v its cut off. Or like I said in my last post, it is possible that the reverse bias across the diode(3v) might dissipate before the cap gets down to 3v. Just thoughts so far.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2013, 12:30:37 AM

either need to !aintain the voltage in the primary to continuos ringing

need a full tank or reserve tank
this what i observe @ 6 v dc primary when i pulse the circuit there are no v going ip but primary discharge and secondary cap have high spike but no charge
magz glad u brought up this zener diode topic
wjen i charge the primary cap to 12 v and pulse the circuit witj flyswatter them two caps charge up again

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2013, 12:35:48 AM

i saw a video cap charging
when a cap reaches a certain lebel it dischargrs autpmatically
in tito 3 circuit the cap jas a coil for charge storage

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 12, 2013, 12:40:31 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 12, 2013, 12:30:37 AM

wjen i charge the primary cap to 12 v and pulse the circuit witj flyswatter them two caps charge up again

Can you explain in more detail? ;D

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 12, 2013, 12:47:16 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 12, 2013, 12:35:48 AM
i saw a video cap charging
when a cap reaches a certain lebel it dischargrs autpmatically
in tito 3 circuit the cap jas a coil for charge storage

Im not sure thats what Tito intended with a 3v zener. Just about any diode has a reverse breakdown. Like a 1n4007 is 1kv. So it would discharge a cap once it hits 1kv. Probably small caps at best so not to destroy the diode.
The thing is, once the caps voltage hits 1kv, there probably wont be much discharged as the cap will be left at just under 1kv, I believe. Thats going off of known circuits, not discharging a tiny cap at HV.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2013, 12:47:42 AM

aftet arc plasma charger test i left it as for another day
after 16 hrs the primay has discharged to 6v
then i try to repeat the test same set up using fly swatter
i was surptised the primary discharged fast for ebery pulse and secondaru has high v spike but returns to original voltage

then i charge up the primary cap to 12 v with wa;ll paper power supply
ithen got charging effect on both primary and secondary caps

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2013, 12:57:09 AM

ok!

I just used the zener in my latest project which do not use transformer anymore, it has nothing to do with the our last project. clear?. :)

well, but if your asking if i used diode as a circuit controller, that's a big YES! and that is so easy and up to that only i cannot anymore give the detail ok?. ;)

actually pinahirapan nyong sarili nyo e, kung bakit gumamit pa kayo ng flyswatter ;D

bye

i have to work first guys
take care ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 12, 2013, 12:58:06 AM

My explanation no. 2 is the only conclusion I can conceive for a 3v zener. is to conduct till the cap is down to 3v then cut off. This is a quenching of the spark in a way, without the spark.

But also, like I said, it is possible somewhere during the discharge that the voltage 'across' the zener may become 3v or less, before the cap actually reaches down to 3v, being that when current flows in the coil, things may level out 'across' the diode before the cap gets down to 3v. Thus an early cutoff. Maybe this is what is meant by a disruptive discharge. I always seemed to think it was disruptive to the electric/magnetic environment, like explosive, not that it meant to abruptly stop. I was thinking of them as 2 separate actions, when really it may be one in the same. :o ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2013, 01:00:13 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 12, 2013, 12:35:48 AM
i saw a video cap charging
when a cap reaches a certain lebel it dischargrs autpmatically
in tito 3 circuit the cap jas a coil for charge storage

There you got one automatic words there ;)

goooooood :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 12, 2013, 02:28:42 AM

Another usage of zener diode is because those 3V are difference between anode cathode. If you connect a cap and battery with zener diode then when cap is charged above 3V higher then battery the excess is dumped back to battery, but in most cases you need additional elements because zener diode cannot pass too much current.
That's the problem I need to solve in future, if you have kind of Don Smith circuit with energy stored in big electrolytic capacitor at 400V, how to limit that charge to not blow the capacitor :-(
The most important question is ...

What is the resistance of zener diode when conducting ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wings on February 12, 2013, 02:57:10 AM

.... R1 is designed to limit the current to a safe value for the zeners.
http://sound.westhost.com/appnotes/an008.htm

Avalanche multiplication
http://cnx.org/content/m1009/latest/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2013, 03:08:23 AM

tittttto
still dont have the pc fan youre talking so by whatever means
of pulsing at the moment... we are going in that direction
the flyswatter is a mcgyver stuff yo no hehehe
now you said no transformer fine with me
but the caps are expensive to test with without a clear schematic from you

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2013, 03:15:24 AM

last project???? never started yet from what i read page 1 up to this moment with 1000 reads as mag said
Im patient and listening

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 12, 2013, 08:30:40 AM

Quote from: wings on February 12, 2013, 02:57:10 AM
.... R1 is designed to limit the current to a safe value for the zeners.
http://sound.westhost.com/appnotes/an008.htm (http://sound.westhost.com/appnotes/an008.htm)

Avalanche multiplication
http://cnx.org/content/m1009/latest/ (http://cnx.org/content/m1009/latest/)

Thanks for he link, i needed that. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2013, 10:21:35 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 12, 2013, 08:30:40 AM

Thanks for he link, i needed that. ;)

The important thing to remember is that zener diodes are identical to standard diodes below their zener voltage - in fact, conventional diodes can be used as zeners. The actual breakdown voltage is usually much higher than is normally useful, and each diode (even from the same manufacturing run) will have a different breakdown voltage.
Nice link

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2013, 04:57:38 PM

hv transformer drived by 2 mosfets konehead style mosfet is k1400A yt by mariuscivic
can somebody draw the schematic with hv transformer included instead of lamp in the drawing.... this caan replaced the flyswatter
thanks :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 12, 2013, 06:12:31 PM

Hi totoalas,

On a HV transformer made in the past for cathode ray tube (CRT) television sets or monitors there was a primary coil for the collector of a HV transistor, this was the primary and there was a HV coil (with very high number of turns). I say this to make it easier for you to understand the drawing made by Groundloop here: http://www.overunity.com/13269/mauriscivics-pulser/msg351500/#msg351500 Notice that if you buy a HV line ouput transformer, you connect its primary coil in place of the light bulb let's say it will become L1, and the induction coil Mariuscivic starts with a magnet would be connected as L2 in Groundloop schematic. Of course you have to be able to identify the primary coil of such a HV line output trafo, unless you know it (or of course you can use some HV trafos from photo flash circuits they make 300-400V at least etc).
Notice also that unless you have the same type MOSFETs Mariuscivic uses it has proved to be difficult to replicate his oscillator as per you can read in the above thread. You have to experiment with the distance of L2 from the main trafo to insure just correct inductive coupling so that the induced AC should be able to maintain oscillation and too close position can kill the gate-source junction of the FETs.

Here is another series of tests in practice on HV oscillators: http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=16.0 (just click on the pictures to enlarge them)

PLEASE be very very careful with HV circuits, they can kill you!!! if you are not very cautious! The arc Mariuscivic shows is formed by anything between 5 kV to 15 kV from that line output transformer!!

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2013, 06:27:06 PM

thanks gyula
then ill settle for the flyswatter .... a little shock is tolerable unlike the hv ..... ill keep that in mind
maybe just modify the flyswatter circuit into 12 v will be fine .. saw the circuit before and will search again
maybe ill make a longer test on your tito circuit 3 to see where it goes and log the data
Ill try to make a lawton circuit..... does anybody have a simple one I can put in a bread board cuz i cannot find my old board
My next set up will be two flyswatter pulsed by a lawton circuit
any idea on what zener diode I can use what no??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 12, 2013, 06:30:10 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 12, 2013, 04:57:38 PM
hv transformer drived by 2 mosfets konehead style mosfet is k1400A yt by mariuscivic
can somebody draw the schematic with hv transformer included instead of lamp in the drawing.... this caan replaced the flyswatter
thanks :)

What's the problem with the flyswatter? Does the transistor gets damaged by prolong use? Maybe i can help.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2013, 06:41:25 PM

the flyswatter , i damaged 6 long time ago
problems
are
1. prolong charging damaged the circuit
2. continuous use of the output - only one time busted
3. if the output is left shorted and charged - one time only
4. since it is only 4.5 v dc power supply input ... need at least 12 v for the easy test set up
any help is appreciated thanks - i want to loop using the load e core one side additional coil for this
quote from phil B Pro
When the flyswatter is switched "on" current flows through the biasing resistor to turn the transistor "on" and energize the transformer primary. The rise in energy in the transformer primary induces a voltage in the transformer secondary. But, a steady voltage in the primary will not induce a voltage in the secondary for long, only while the voltage in the primary is either rising or falling rapidly. The transformer also has a loop in it that feeds back to the transistor and over-biases the transistor so that it shuts "off." When the transistor is "off," the current that over-biased it ceases because the current going to the primary goes through the transistor, and then the battery current through the transistor's biasing resistor turns the transistor back "on" so current again flows in the transformer primary. It is a simple and cheap oscillator.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 12, 2013, 07:44:19 PM

Ok, In my experience repairing swatters the parts that gets busted easily are the transistors, they die if prolong used, you may try replacing the main primary transistor with a higher rating and with accessible heatsinking... Hope that helps...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2013, 08:05:35 PM

thanks cc
something to play around this week
if i provide a dc supply source to both swatters and pulse the bifilar coils simultaneously for just an easy set up.....
need to finish this one before the holy week as i will be on vacation in Cavite .......
I want a stable pulsing circuit like a ignition coil from scooters powere by my solar panels.. not a free energy but a useful one to supplement our food in the table instead of investing in Meralco electric company with rates compared to Japan and one of the most expensive electricity here in Asia

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 13, 2013, 02:08:33 AM

Hi
in Part 2 precharged swatter battery 5 v dc / caps c1 and c2 12 and 11.39 v dc @ 1:45 then start continuos charging c1 18.4 c2 11.77 @ 11.59 @2:35 c1 32,6 c2 13,40 v and oscillator/ swatter stopped due to drained battery

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: kEhYo77 on February 13, 2013, 05:08:32 AM

Hi.

What do you think about this schematic?

If the breakdown avalanche effect of the diode is big enough we could have some interesting results :)

It is to be used as a few turn primary for a Tesla Coil (transformer). Having seen Primer Fields on YT, it is my belief that this PHI ratio clockwise / counter clockwise / clockwise type of primary winding will by very efficient.

kEhYo

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 13, 2013, 09:54:24 AM

Hi kheyo

Are you sure its was zener? I say this bcoz zener is not really used on avalanche mode on normal operation because it consume lots of power. There is much better than zener that consume less power and has negative resistance characteristic like neon bulb, spark gap, Diac, Triac and SCR. Another thing, the coil is in non-inductive which reduces the magnetic field.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 14, 2013, 08:38:34 AM

For your amusement

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 14, 2013, 10:15:30 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on February 14, 2013, 08:38:34 AM
For your amusement

hmmmmmmmm

not bad dave :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 14, 2013, 10:34:26 PM

okay okay by aling kikay ;D

The thing is HOW CAN WE FULLY SUPPRESSED THE SPARK WITHOUT AGGRAVATING THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ANGLE? ??? :o ;D 8)

SM successfully solved it, kapanadze ::) , i'm not sure? ???

me? well, :-\ ;D There are lots mcgiver's technique ;D

by the highway again ladies and gentlemen men and wemen

I am making a device to cure almost all deceases, and that's serious. hope i can perfect it. :)

all protons in the body needs to be released to become alcanized and we need to inject electron to become energized.

and to kill a virus, or a bacteria, we need to scruitinize their energy. 8)

This is very fun :)

well i'm not yet sure if good bacteria will die also. :-\ but the body continuos to produce luckily. ;)

i think i need to read more info in medicine or bacteriologist and virologist. :)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 14, 2013, 11:36:47 PM

tito
i use your surname yo heal no secret abput that
and faith as well hows yournrwborn

totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 15, 2013, 02:17:13 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 14, 2013, 10:34:26 PM
okay okay by aling kikay ;D

The thing is HOW CAN WE FULLY SUPPRESSED THE SPARK WITHOUT AGGRAVATING THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ANGLE? ??? :o ;D 8) locsin

SM successfully solved it, kapanadze ::) , i'm not sure? ???
how about you puregold :) :)

me? well, :-\ ;D There are lots mcgiver's technique ;D titgver

by the highway again ladies and gentlemen men and wemen
and serenas

I am making a device to cure almost all deceases, and that's serious. hope i can perfect it. :)
disease ok deceased sln

all protons in the body needs to be released to become alcanized and we need to inject electron to become energized.
kidlat

and to kill a virus, or a bacteria, we need to scruitinize their energy. 8)
redbull

This is very fun :)
only in the phil

well i'm not yet sure if good bacteria will die also. :-\ but the body continuos to produce luckily. ;)
viral

i think i need to read more info in medicine or bacteriologist and virologist. :)
as the japs always say combine withe unseen aether

;D nice puzzle

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2013, 06:31:03 AM

That's gooooood hahhahahhahhahhahahhah lol
by totoalaskador ;D

by the highway, i postponed the czesarian of my wife cause i'm waiting for the hospital to open, maybe on tuesday.

pwede nabang pangalan ang NIKOLA TEETSLA? :-\ LOL ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2013, 07:10:14 AM

okay okay by aling kikay kalaykay

The thing is HOW CAN WE FULLY SUPPRESSED THE SPARK WITHOUT AGGRAVATING THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ANGLE? Bulocsin

SM successfully solved it, kapanadze , i'm not sure?

[color=rgb(0, 0, 255) !important]how about you[/color] puregold manure
me? well, There are lots mcgiver's technique titgver the driver

by the highway again ladies and gentlemen men and wemen and serenas and shokoy

I am making a device to cure almost all deceases, and that's serious. hope i can perfect it. disease ok [color=rgb(0, 0, 255) !important]deceased[/color] sln "This is"

all protons in the body needs to be released to become alcanized and we need to inject electron to become energized. kidlat ngayon ;D

and to kill a virus, or a bacteria, we need to scruitinize their energy. redbull2,

This is very fun elektrik fan
only in the phil,

well i'm not yet sure if good bacteria will die also. but the body continuos to produce luckily. viral, mansano

i think i need to read more info in medicine or bacteriologist and virologist.
as the japs always say combine withe unseen aether you and me against the world ;D

;D nice puzzle titoalas kador ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2013, 07:32:09 AM

@everyone

I can really felt some greediness here. >:(

Well, they know to their selves what they really are. ::)
They even instruct others not to post that important thing. ;D ;D ;D lol hahahahhahahha i know you :P :P :P

And because of that, i think i won't give anymore even tips >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 15, 2013, 08:55:39 AM

@tito

I know your secret its capacitor discharge in coil connected in malagkit na tikoy na makasamang kalamay then make titos pipong circuit and add sphageti souce. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2013, 09:10:01 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on February 15, 2013, 08:55:39 AM
@tito

I know your secret its capacitor discharge in coil connected in malagkit na tikoy na makasamang kalamay then make titos pipong circuit and add sphageti souce. :D

Tama ka!!!, kase yung kalamay ang nagpapalagkit sa magnetic field at ang latik naman ang nagpapataas ng voltahe. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 15, 2013, 09:17:38 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2013, 07:32:09 AM
@everyone

I can really felt some greediness here. >:(

Well, they know to their selves what they really are. ::)
They even instruct others not to post that important thing. ;D ;D ;D lol hahahahhahahha i know you :P :P :P

And because of that, i think i won't give anymore even tips >:(

lol. And asking for money, millions of dollars is not being greedy??

Boy Tito, you are the pot calling the kettle black.

I have to say, its a bit crazy. :o :o Nobody would be here if YOU hadnt bragged and said you will show. Its your fault that people are here in this thread. And you make judgments on them. What Bible do you read Tito?? ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 15, 2013, 09:37:32 AM

We will all be gone soon enough before we can use our free energy devices..... :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=90Omh7_I8vI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2013, 09:37:38 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 15, 2013, 09:17:38 AM
lol. And asking for money, millions of dollars is not being greedy??

Boy Tito, you are the pot calling the kettle black.

I have to say, its a bit crazy. :o :o Nobody would be here if YOU hadnt bragged and said you will show. Its your fault that people are here in this thread. And you make judgments on them. What Bible do you read Tito?? ;)

Mags

That's one, gotcha!!! ;D

so you think i'm serious with that millions boy? ???

and if i did, well that's business! ;D

i'm reading the bible that you read. ;D

And no, the kettle black is calling you. ;D

and i don't judge them, i'm cathing their work ;D

and your first! :P

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 15, 2013, 09:43:28 AM

Hi sir Teets,
Can you give us a follow up schematic of what Gyula has posted? So we can continue researching...tnx....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 15, 2013, 09:50:19 AM

"and i don't judge them, i'm cathing their work (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fgrin.gif&hash=48cd3b652a891d74b4b4ef746db528263b551e0c)

and your first! (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Ftongue.gif&hash=712f6fec39e91e3e027f36075cd22a26ca109ea1)"

Oh really? Show me your proofs that 'I am first", and I will not post here any more. Thats not a judgement, thats a promise. But you cant. You just make it up. Fantasy land.

Boy?? Im not the one playing 'childish' games with people. Just the other day you asked that people should send you some money as times are tuff for you. Just for giving out 'tips' of ideas that are not even yours. A petty theif. :P Thats what you are, and thats my judgement. And Im fine with it.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 15, 2013, 09:59:31 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2013, 06:31:03 AM

That's gooooood hahhahahhahhahhahahhah lol
by totoalaskador ;D

by the highway, i postponed the czesarian of my wife cause i'm waiting for the hospital to open, maybe on tuesday. in mabitac laguna napipihit ang bata kung suwo

pwede nabang pangalan ang NIKOLA TEETSLA? :-\ LOL ;D

approve at least pinoy hehehe
seriously speaking
im also in healing technology research
i used ferrite magnet in rheumatism and pain reliever
ultrasonic transducer amd aeratpr for ph improvement
check pn carmen bees magnetic synchroniser and aviso water therapy and chemicals used

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 15, 2013, 10:12:15 AM

@totoalas

Wow totoo ba yan? D ko alam bigatin pala trabaho mo. Samantalang ako tiga, tiga saing, tiga laba at tiga luto. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 15, 2013, 10:32:10 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on February 15, 2013, 10:12:15 AM
@totoalas

Wow totoo ba yan? D ko alam bigatin pala trabaho mo. Samantalang ako tiga, tiga saing, tiga laba at tiga luto. :D

part 1 p lang yan part 2 ay may konting alam rin ako sa bali at pagppgaling ng sugat
we have the best healers only we dont use them or dont know that we have even without modern tech d b tito O R A C I O N

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on February 15, 2013, 04:28:24 PM

all my friends

there is no free lunch here, don not wast your time. the information of Tesla coil is enough for producing free energy.
if you can not get it totally, please study the articles about Tesla again and again, you should get what you want .
if you cann't. it must be that you do not uanderstand eletron and space well, here s file(http://www.baidu.com/link?url=98kLGJqjJ4zBBpC8yDF8xDh8rD3nAJZjFWsHhEoSNd85PkV8XikkfckkOX49pzzZ4l8G2l_rd6tj1Ekq0aqERSO7UK) which explained electron and space maybe help yhou. sorry, this araticl is writed in chinese, I have no time to translate it to english.
I made a lot of free energy device, in my opinion, i like Tito's device, it's easy to tune (actually, do not need tune), and easy to add more stages to get more output power. but,I have to say dont puzzled by " one tranfomer connected another transformer,,,, N tranformers in serieous", as an experimenter, you can use only one stage to light a buble by free energy. more stages are not necessary.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2013, 05:45:30 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 15, 2013, 09:50:19 AM
"and i don't judge them, i'm cathing their work (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif))

and your first! (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/tongue.gif (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/tongue.gif))"

Oh really? Show me your proofs that 'I am first", and I will not post here any more. Thats not a judgement, thats a promise. But you cant. You just make it up. Fantasy land.

Boy?? Im not the one playing 'childish' games with people. Just the other day you asked that people should send you some money as times are tuff for you. Just for giving out 'tips' of ideas that are not even yours. A petty theif. :P Thats what you are, and thats my judgement. And Im fine with it.

Mags

lol ;D And You are judging me already. ;D you really cleaver in talking debate. lol hahahahhaahha

no i'm not childish that is just my style. ;D

And you know who is the thief ;D

pa promise promise patong kanung to, e galit lang kase to dahil di ko binibigay yung secreto e. lol ;D

can you please show the one where i am asking for money? so that everyone know whoose making things wrong? please! >:(

You cannot easily fool the world man!

And DO NOT JUDGE SO YOU WILL NOT BE JUDGE!!!! ;D

AND THAT'S REALLY YOU !!! :P :P :P ;D

MAGS, I WILL WAIT FOR YOU TO SHOW ME THAT ONE, IF I AM FORCING EVERYONE!

You know what?, you really are a very good credibility destroyer. and i'll salute you for that,
and again THAT'S REALLY YOU! ;D

You already said it as petty thief, as if i put an info where to send the money.

YOU CAN ASKED EVERYONE IF AT LEAST ONE MADE SEND.
COMMON I'LL CHALLENGE YOUR GOOD CREDIBILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(

You Brain destroyer and thiefer of minds!!!! >:( >:( >:( ;D
and i'm find with that! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 15, 2013, 05:59:08 PM

WERE OFF COURSE AGAIN
PHASE2 HOW TO IN TITO CIRCUIT 3
IN MY LAST TEST WIH PART
2
IF OUTPUT LOAD SHORTED CHARGING STOPS IN C2
AND C1 DISCHARGED IF C1 IS BELOW 12 V AND C2 IS 2 V ONLY START VOLTAGE

:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2013, 06:23:45 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 15, 2013, 10:32:10 AM
part 1 p lang yan part 2 ay may konting alam rin ako sa bali at pagppgaling ng sugat
we have the best healers only we dont use them or dont know that we have even without modern tech d b tito O R A C I O N

OHHHHWS MAY SUGAT AKONG PAPAGAMOT SAYO, KAYA MO KAYANG PAGALNGIN? ;D

NAGDURUGO KASE E ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

ANG BASTOS NMAN NITONG C NEO-X, KUNG ANU ANONG INIISIP! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D HAHAHHAHHAHH

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2013, 06:36:16 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on February 15, 2013, 10:12:15 AM
@totoalas

Wow totoo ba yan? D ko alam bigatin pala trabaho mo. Samantalang ako tiga, tiga saing, tiga laba at tiga luto. :D

AKO TIGA MASAHE, TIGA PAYPAY NI ALING PIPAY, MINSAN NGA PANGALAN KO TIGATIGA.

KAYA AKO AY ISANG TIGASIN.! ;D

KASALUKUYAN NGA MAY TINGA PA AKO E :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 15, 2013, 06:46:24 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2013, 06:23:45 PM

OHHHHWS MAY SUGAT AKONG PAPAGAMOT SAYO, KAYA MO KAYANG PAGALNGIN? ;D
ganun rin yan sa teetsla mo sa sugat nakayanan mo rin b mahirap kasi magsalita ng tapos

NAGDURUGO KASE E ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D pusong bato hehe

ANG BASTOS NMAN NITONG C NEO-X, KUNG ANU ANONG INIISIP! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D HAHAHHAHHAHH

una muna yung isipan dahilan na lang yung karamdaman
tulad yan ng diabetes d ka uurunhan ng lupa
aanhin p ang teetsla kung putol naman paa mo hehehe

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 15, 2013, 07:10:08 PM

back to work using gyula s cicuit
cap on series with primary coil amd pulse by hv in a bifi;ar fashion
to produce an ac useable source
several conditions are required
1 both caps mut be precharged
2 alternate pulsing for s1 and s2 to achiebe ac useable source

options on how to proceed
1 set up as in gyula 2 switcjes
2 precharged the caps to 12 v
3 test procedure
a. test with 2 pulse source mamually or via no nc relay where both switches are alternately pulsed from a single source
b test with and without earth or water pipe ground in both caps
c for the test use externa;l source for the pulse and later on looped

any input or comments ate welcome
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 15, 2013, 08:40:26 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2013, 05:45:30 PM

lol ;D And You are judging me already. ;D you really cleaver in talking debate. lol hahahahhaahha

no i'm not childish that is just my style. ;D

And you know who is the thief ;D

pa promise promise patong kanung to, e galit lang kase to dahil di ko binibigay yung secreto e. lol ;D

can you please show the one where i am asking for money? so that everyone know whoose making things wrong? please! >:(

You cannot easily fool the world man!

And DO NOT JUDGE SO YOU WILL NOT BE JUDGE!!!! ;D

AND THAT'S REALLY YOU !!! :P :P :P ;D

MAGS, I WILL WAIT FOR YOU TO SHOW ME THAT ONE, IF I AM FORCING EVERYONE!

You know what?, you really are a very good credibility destroyer. and i'll salute you for that,
and again THAT'S REALLY YOU! ;D

You already said it as petty thief, as if i put an info where to send the money.

YOU CAN ASKED EVERYONE IF AT LEAST ONE MADE SEND.
COMMON I'LL CHALLENGE YOUR GOOD CREDIBILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(

You Brain destroyer and thiefer of minds!!!! >:( >:( >:( ;D
and i'm find with that! ;D

"can you please show the one where i am asking for money? so that everyone know whoose making things wrong? please! >:(

You cannot easily fool the world man!"

Heres one, and theres more, as everyone that has been reading your posts knows. ;) :o

"Ok if i can collect atleast 1M USD, i will reveal the secret! seriously! (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fangry.gif&hash=abf6ca49a46eb74d8ca8eb7a760b5e2b6c065192):(" title="Angry" class="smiley"> , but i don't know how can it be done cause no one here trust each other and they all want everything free (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fgrin.gif&hash=48cd3b652a891d74b4b4ef746db528263b551e0c)"

http://www.overunity.com/5772/teslas-magnifying-transmitter-amplify-electricity/msg225047/#msg225047

Im searching for the rest. Started about 2 hours ago when I read your post. Started at page 94 of Titos posts, and found this one on page 69, and counting. :o :o ;)

Theres more. One is 10 mil another is 3 mil, yet another for 10k... Ill post them all here in a while. Still on page 69 of 94 pages and 1401 posts.

There, I took your challenge and succeeded. How am I fooling the world with the truth Tito?

If anyone here reads Titos old posts, it was all about Free For The World!!!! God Love Everyone!!! Its For The World!!! Then came post 1021, page 69 $1million dollars. Yeah. For the world.

No. Its about For Tito.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 15, 2013, 10:07:15 PM

OHHHHWS MAY SUGAT AKONG
PAPAGAMOT SAYO, KAYA MO
KAYANG PAGALNGIN? NAGDURUGO KASE E ANG BASTOS NMAN NITONG C
NEO-X, KUNG ANU ANONG
INIISIP! HAHAHHAHHAHH

-End of Quote-

Ikaw bastos -
KAYA AKO AY ISANG
TIGASIN.! :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 15, 2013, 10:22:01 PM

una muna yung isipan
dahilan na lang yung
karamdaman
tulad yan ng diabetes d ka
uurunhan ng lupa
aanhin p ang teetsla kung putol naman paa mo hehehe

-End of Quote-

Wag naman sana mangyari sakin 2. Anu ba sintomas na malala na ang diabetes?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 15, 2013, 11:15:38 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on February 15, 2013, 10:22:01 PM
una muna yung isipan
dahilan na lang yung
karamdaman
tulad yan ng diabetes d ka
uurunhan ng lupa
aanhin p ang teetsla kung putol naman paa mo hehehe

-End of Quote-

Wag naman sana mangyari sakin 2. Anu ba sintomas na malala na ang diabetes?

Quote from: Neo-X on February 15, 2013, 10:22:01 PM
una muna yung isipan
dahilan na lang yung
karamdaman
tulad yan ng diabetes d ka
uurunhan ng lupa
aanhin p ang teetsla kung putol naman paa mo hehehe

-End of Quote-

Wag naman sana mangyari sakin 2. Anu ba sintomas na malala na ang diabetes? nilalanggam ihi mo nangingitim binti o nalaki dib dib check mo ihi ph gamit katas red cabbage iptak mo sa ihi maberde acidic asul k buko cleansing at liver flushing fllow theguru2you :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 15, 2013, 11:35:23 PM

@totoalas

Tae na nilalanggam ihi ko mapupu2lan yata ako ng paa.. Tnx theguru2you lol :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 16, 2013, 08:04:02 AM

Energy amplification by resonant rise. Always were here in resonant circuits. We are blind like those saying " there is no gain in this bell sound". Remember what Tesla said about bell....
Really the only issue is to keep dipole not destroyed and tap power not disturbing it...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 16, 2013, 11:15:42 PM

Quote from: forest on February 16, 2013, 08:04:02 AM
Energy amplification by resonant rise. Always were here in resonant circuits. We are blind like those saying " there is no gain in this bell sound". Remember what Tesla said about bell....
Really the only issue is to keep dipole not destroyed and tap power not disturbing it...

Lets put the Tesla 'tapper' device that shook a building into resonance for example.

If we made a solid base to mount a length of flat spring steel, with a weight on top that moved like a pendulum, but not pivoting at the bottom, but mounted solid so the the spring takes on the left and right actions, and we have a tapper device to make it move, where on the length of the spring would we want our tapper? The bottom, middle or top?

Well Tesla used it at or near the base of the building. So we should follow suite.

We set the spring pen in motion to count the freq of movement, this way we can set our tapper to be in sync. We stop the pen, turn on the tapper and we wait. lol But it should get the thing moving. The tapper could be electronic, with a coil that pulses a magnet at the base, and use a sensor to detect what position the pen is in for the next tap automatically. I suppose like a pulse motor.

So now we can recreate Teslas demonstration. This has been done with pendulum toys and such, but Im talking something closer to what Tesla did. A normal pen uses weight as the reset force, where here we are using a spring, of which the building must have had some.

Once we get it going well and as efficiently as possible, then we can start trying to tap into that swing of the weight going back and forth.

Now, how and where on the building can we collect the energy? And is it more than the input? :o ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 17, 2013, 05:54:17 PM

Aviso once quoted
"at the peak voltage where the surge occur in coil shorting thats the time to capture and multiply a million times"
thats why he went to peswiki for the cotrol circuit development
as for tito s idea
instead of radiant energy he used battery as source pc fan for control and maintain the energy in the primary while in resonant mode for the secondary ( my interpretation)
I really would like this experiment to proceed .... missing only are the zener and the motivation from others that hang on to this thread......
to die a naural cause is not acceptable .... you read that TITO TEETS .. but to live with a noble cause .... im not asking too much
just a slice of the pie ....... DIE HARD now showing

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 17, 2013, 06:08:40 PM

Hi gyula or anybody
can you please give the size of zener diode ( part no ) that is appropirate for the tests.....(Tito circuit 3 ... should be Gyula circuit 3 for right recognition )
thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 17, 2013, 08:03:30 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 15, 2013, 08:40:26 PM
"can you please show the one where i am asking for money? so that everyone know whoose making things wrong? please! >:(

You cannot easily fool the world man!"

Heres one, and theres more, as everyone that has been reading your posts knows. ;) :o

"Ok if i can collect atleast 1M USD, i will reveal the secret! seriously! (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/angry.gif) :( " title="Angry" class="smiley"> , but i don't know how can it be done cause no one here trust each other and they all want everything free (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif)"

http://www.overunity.com/5772/teslas-magnifying-transmitter-amplify-electricity/msg225047/#msg225047 (http://www.overunity.com/5772/teslas-magnifying-transmitter-amplify-electricity/msg225047/#msg225047)

Im searching for the rest. Started about 2 hours ago when I read your post. Started at page 94 of Titos posts, and found this one on page 69, and counting. :o :o ;)

Theres more. One is 10 mil another is 3 mil, yet another for 10k... Ill post them all here in a while. Still on page 69 of 94 pages and 1401 posts.

There, I took your challenge and succeeded. How am I fooling the world with the truth Tito?

If anyone here reads Titos old posts, it was all about Free For The World!!!! God Love Everyone!!! Its For The World!!! Then came post 1021, page 69 $1million dollars. Yeah. For the world.

No. Its about For Tito.

Mags

oh ya! i said all of that!!!!! you misserrable thing!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Then what?!, did i received any one cents from any body? haaaaa! >:(

did i put any info where to send their money! haaaa? show me at least one. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

AND YOU ALREADY JUDGE ME OF PETTY THIEF!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( YOU UNTHANKFULL! >:(

AND SINCE YOU JUDGE ME ALREADY THEN YOU SHOULD DO YOUR PROMISE. AND YOU ARE FINE WITH IT. >:(

YOU SHAMELESS!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

DID I FORCE ANYONE HA!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

AND IF I RECEIVED MILLIONS, AM I NOT DESERVED THOSE MONEY FOR THE TECHNOLOGY HA!, AND THAT IS PART OF THE BUSINESS!!!

AND REALLY BECAUSE OF THAT I WILL NOT ANYMORE GIVE ANY TIPS THAT ARE NOT MINE AS MAGS SAID! PERIOD.

AND MAGS SUCCEED, AND GIVE ALL CREDITS TO MAGS FOR HIS SUCCESS OF DRIVING ME AWAY OF GIVING TIPS THAT ARE NOT MINE.
AND GIVE HIM AROUND OF APPLAUSE! ;D

THERE ARE FREE AND THERE ARE NOT! UNDERSTAND! >:(

PAANO BA SA INGLES ANG TANTANAN MOKO POGI ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 17, 2013, 08:06:22 PM

hey mags!!! >:(

you show the other day that i ask money you are talking about! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

mahiya ka sa sarili mo you credible talker! >:( >:( >:( paki ingles nga yon!! ;D ;D ;D

Remember: the topic here is, you are judging me or accusing me of petty thief because of the money ha! >:(

And show me the address that i put in a meteorite that hit russia, where everyone can send money for me. ;D

Common i'm waiting!!!! waiting!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 17, 2013, 08:28:50 PM

@ everyone

You know what everyone?, sometime tips that are not mine that i gave can really be absorb sometimes many times in a right moment. or in timing moment. :)

got that? 8)

and i hope you absorb that. ;D

Tips are nothing if they were not said in the right time. remember that. 8)

And somebody needs to grow. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 17, 2013, 08:34:49 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 17, 2013, 08:06:22 PM
hey mags!!! >:(

you show the other day that i ask money you are talking about! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

mahiya ka sa sarili mo you credible talker! >:( >:( >:( paki ingles nga yon!! ;D ;D ;D shy you in english

Remember: the topic here is, you are judging me or accusing me of petty thief because of the money ha! >:(

And show me the address that i put in a meteorite that hit russia, where everyone can send money for me. ;D sho mai mami ( o mani)

Common i'm waiting!!!! waiting!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( anak ng weteng kaya nga nakulong si Isko moreno bingo p lang lol

ang puso mahal mag p ospital lets put our energy on positive mode lower down your tone boys are boys

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 17, 2013, 09:27:48 PM

Ya know Tito, look back a few pages. You and I were just posting and you start with oh mags is mad. I wasnt saying anything wrong. And then you say you feel greediness here...http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352970/#msg352970

Then I make a comparison where you asked for money multiple times. You tell us you have something and promise to show, then change your mind, then ask for 1 mil, then nothing for a while. Then more 'tips', more riddles, then you say no you cant go any further, then you ask for money again, only more. Its a pattern. You get everyone excited, then leave them hanging, then the big sale becomes available. Its a pattern that you have 'exercised' for quite some time now. You cannot dispute this. I could go through and show this 'pattern', but most that have been around for a while 'know' what Im saying is true. In stone. Its like a wave that comes in every once in a while, theres a pattern.

Then I was just posting stuff on ideas and you say I am a thief....
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg353009/#msg353009

How is that Tito? What have I taken from anyone here? When I help. I help with straight answers, if I have them. I dont play with people and make them go through a never ending puzzle.

Your judgement is that being you consider some to be undeserving, that all shall be denied. Thats insanity man. Insanity. This is not what we are suppose to be!!

I throw things at you that you have said previously so you can realize what we see. We all do things that we dont realize the implications later, somtimes until they are pointed out to you. And being that you dont like it, doesnt mean I am a liar or a thief.

Im fine with just talking coils, transformers and caps here, without having to read of the greed you feel and Mags is mad and just switching this thing on and off at will. Whats the big problem?

It seems like when I get into an idea like say the Tapper above, you want to snarl at me, or some snide remark. Or when I get deep into a subject you pop in and open a new subject. Why is that?? Why so many clues for 'different' project ideas, but none completed yet?? From Tesla, to Hendershot, to Moray, JT but with an unknown 'twist' then a different Tesla Idea, then the water world idea, then back to coils magnets and caps oh my! But not one project has come to pass. Not one.

How many of your friends treat you that way? For years like that??

Im done with these page filling arguments. Its worthless. Im only going to post on the subject here.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 17, 2013, 11:43:37 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 17, 2013, 09:27:48 PM
Ya know Tito, look back a few pages. You and I were just posting and you start with oh mags is mad. I wasnt saying anything wrong. And then you say you feel greediness here...http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352970/#msg352970 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352970/#msg352970)

Then I make a comparison where you asked for money multiple times. You tell us you have something and promise to show, then change your mind, then ask for 1 mil, then nothing for a while. Then more 'tips', more riddles, then you say no you cant go any further, then you ask for money again, only more. Its a pattern. You get everyone excited, then leave them hanging, then the big sale becomes available. Its a pattern that you have 'exercised' for quite some time now. You cannot dispute this. I could go through and show this 'pattern', but most that have been around for a while 'know' what Im saying is true. In stone. Its like a wave that comes in every once in a while, theres a pattern.

Then I was just posting stuff on ideas and you say I am a thief....
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg353009/#msg353009 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg353009/#msg353009)

How is that Tito? What have I taken from anyone here? When I help. I help with straight answers, if I have them. I dont play with people and make them go through a never ending puzzle.

Your judgement is that being you consider some to be undeserving, that all shall be denied. Thats insanity man. Insanity. This is not what we are suppose to be!!

I throw things at you that you have said previously so you can realize what we see. We all do things that we dont realize the implications later, somtimes until they are pointed out to you. And being that you dont like it, doesnt mean I am a liar or a thief.

Im fine with just talking coils, transformers and caps here, without having to read of the greed you feel and Mags is mad and just switching this thing on and off at will. Whats the big problem?

It seems like when I get into an idea like say the Tapper above, you want to snarl at me, or some snide remark. Or when I get deep into a subject you pop in and open a new subject. Why is that?? Why so many clues for 'different' project ideas, but none completed yet?? From Tesla, to Hendershot, to Moray, JT but with an unknown 'twist' then a different Tesla Idea, then the water world idea, then back to coils magnets and caps oh my! But not one project has come to pass. Not one.

How many of your friends treat you that way? For years like that??

Im done with these page filling arguments. Its worthless. Im only going to post on the subject here.

Mags

Your saying lot of things for you to escape ha!

so you were just saying something on ideas and i called you a thief? oh boy i'm very bad isn't?

the topic is simple and you know it.

And you know what your doing!

many times my senses is much faster than what i see.

i'm still waiting mags, don't fool the reader's in your cut story okay?
and for the reader's, many times if you don't really know the story, you will easily believe.
beware to this person. you're clever buddy. but God knows the truth and you can't escape.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 18, 2013, 12:14:46 AM

Well then show them what I have done. Show them where I lie.

I might be close, but each time there is something missing, as you always say.

Show them that I am leading anyone the wrong way. Show them how im holding things back. Show them how in any way I have tried to discourage. You cant. Because I dont.

I feel that there are a lot of basics that I have. You have never revealed anything to me 'plainly' in thread nor in PM that I know, and havnt revealed. How am I stealing anything?
I have revealed here that we talked about the zener diode when I asked you in PM if the zener is used as a spark gap and you said BIG YES. But I still dont know how yet. Im not holding anything back. How is it that I am a thief?

Did I stumble on to something and presented it here, so you think I stole it from you? Me, Mr Greedy, posting info and not asking a penny? I even post thoughts that come to me as I post, not holding back with the thought that Im a fool for giving it away. I hope that people think my thoughts and ideas are worth me posting them.

Lately Im burned out. Working reluctantly on 2 other projects that I dont know what the outcomes will be. Ive not seen OU that I can discern, or have had a looped runner, or charged a battery with more power than was used to run the circuit. Nuthin. Nada. Loosing the desire. Not completely, but I feel less confident.

Say what you want Tito. I dont have to prove anything. And apparently neither do you. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 18, 2013, 12:27:47 AM

Magluvin, you are talking (writing) in vain; this guy is like a deaf piece of rag.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2013, 01:42:41 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 18, 2013, 12:14:46 AM
Well then show them what I have done. Show them where I lie.

I might be close, but each time there is something missing, as you always say.

Show them that I am leading anyone the wrong way. Show them how im holding things back. Show them how in any way I have tried to discourage. You cant. Because I dont.

I feel that there are a lot of basics that I have. You have never revealed anything to me 'plainly' in thread nor in PM that I know, and havnt revealed. How am I stealing anything?
I have revealed here that we talked about the zener diode when I asked you in PM if the zener is used as a spark gap and you said BIG YES. But I still dont know how yet. Im not holding anything back. How is it that I am a thief?

Did I stumble on to something and presented it here, so you think I stole it from you? Me, Mr Greedy, posting info and not asking a penny? I even post thoughts that come to me as I post, not holding back with the thought that Im a fool for giving it away. I hope that people think my thoughts and ideas are worth me posting them.

Lately Im burned out. Working reluctantly on 2 other projects that I dont know what the outcomes will be. Ive not seen OU that I can discern, or have had a looped runner, or charged a battery with more power than was used to run the circuit. Nuthin. Nada. Loosing the desire. Not completely, but I feel less confident.

Say what you want Tito. I dont have to prove anything. And apparently neither do you. ;)

Mags

Why? did you forgot that you were the first one who called me doing petty thief? did you forgot that? and you said that, that is your judgement? :'( do you think i'm happy with that? buddy? did you forgot the insults you are doing before?. :'(

well, yes all you've said is true but that was happen in the process and you said it in short cut. You are thief because you are trying to get everyone in your side show me in a very bad in their eyes.

I guess i was wrong in my way of teaching but that's me.

I don't exactly know what is running in your mind but i can smell very fast.

I guess you won everyone and that's okay i'll just leave everything to God.
and hope you can sleep.

and if you think you are innocent so be it.

you know what is wrong with you? your are clever but you are forgetfulness.

look at qwert, your plan is running cheers.
Thanks qwert!. but i think its you that smells like a rag.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 18, 2013, 02:14:55 AM

I said: "deaf" like a rag"".
I think it's not Magluvin the one who shows who lies or who does not lie; I have my own judgement; what a problem to go back and see the back posts: the only way to see who is right and who is wrong?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2013, 04:03:23 AM

Quote from: Qwert on February 18, 2013, 02:14:55 AM
I said: "deaf" like a rag"".
I think it's not Magluvin the one who shows who lies or who does not lie; I have my own judgement; what a problem to go back and see the back posts: the only way to see who is right and who is wrong?

Ya! why don't you take a look the back post! >:(

Ya! also smell like a rag and see like a rag! >:(

before anything else you must know the topic first: The first one who says a petty thief ok! Don't change the topic. >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2013, 04:17:27 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 15, 2013, 09:50:19 AM
"and i don't judge them, i'm cathing their work (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif))

and your first! (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/tongue.gif (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/tongue.gif))"

Oh really? Show me your proofs that 'I am first", and I will not post here any more. Thats not a judgement, thats a promise. But you cant. You just make it up. Fantasy land.

Boy?? Im not the one playing 'childish' games with people. Just the other day you asked that people should send you some money as times are tuff for you. Just for giving out 'tips' of ideas that are not even yours. A petty theif. :P Thats what you are, and thats my judgement. And Im fine with it.

Mags

Here is his first judgement and calling me as a petty thief.

do you see that Mr. qwert rag >:(

even you volunteering to give money to me without obligation, then what? did i accept them ha! You blind follower!!! >:(
do you want me to show your email to me ha?

if i'm not mistaken your name was marek pecak.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 18, 2013, 05:18:22 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2013, 04:17:27 AM

if i'm not mistaken your name was marek pecak.

I have nothing to hide, from the beginning. My location? My age? Check my profile.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 18, 2013, 06:00:39 AM

Hi guys.. I have another idea based on tito's ping pong circuit... My idea is to confirm what Richard Willis said that a coil in a ferrite core with magnet in both side when supplied with a pulse of voltage, its collapsing magnetic field produces more power than in. If it was true, the current will never degrade and instead it will goes bigger. In figure A, the capacitor was pre-charged by a battery.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2013, 07:49:14 AM

Quote from: Qwert on February 18, 2013, 05:18:22 AM
I have nothing to hide, from the beginning. My location? My age? Check my profile.

Seeeeee even you! >:( You don't know what i mean by that!!! >:(

That means, even i am in times of tuff, i did not accept your proposal! >:( did you get that Mr. rag?

So, no one should say i am doing petty thief!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
cause i am not receiving anything to anyone here! >:(

And in spite of giving tips that are not mine. i'm being called liar, insults, badwords and wait there's lot more ;D name it. ;D

I really can't express very well in English and i'm not good in debate compare to mags.
Well, i guess you understand now what i felt, i'm very sad actually why this is happening maybe
because i am not revealing the secret.

but you know what everyone?, that secret is really just a piece of cake.

I've been look like a childish in a very long time to everyone just because of the secret.
i am not really going to reveal it anymore and that's final.! >:( ooops boasting again in my part ;D
cause even i do good i'm still bad! >:(

Sorry everyone, I was really hurt, if i said bad things that was just the effect of what i felt, hope you understand. :)

now i think, i see real people's attitude.

And to my brother mags, maybe there's just a misunderstanding. :)

To qwert, don't cover the book by the judge. ;D got that?

Again, goodbye ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 18, 2013, 08:48:29 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 17, 2013, 06:08:40 PM
Hi gyula or anybody
can you please give the size of zener diode ( part no ) that is appropirate for the tests.....(Tito circuit 3 ... should be Gyula circuit 3 for right recognition )
thanks

Hi totoalas,

When I showed the schematic first as per Tito's text description, I wrote that I did not include any Zener diode in the schematic because its function was not mentioned, and I noticed if Zener diode(s) are used in that description than they may be connected in parallel with C1 and C2 to limit voltage level, preventing any run-away situation. Now we know as per Romero's kind contribution that this circuit (built as per Tito's description) is able to run for a short time then all the initial charge is used up. This means that Zener diodes are not needed, AT LEAST not in parallel with the capacitors. If Zeners are needed for other places in such a circuit, then the type and ratings should come after we know what task these Zeners should do.

Has someone done switch-on time for the S1 and S2 as long as 0.5* L/R second and see how much voltage is received in C2 when preferably a few volts was consumed from C1? Has someone increased the intial voltage in the caps from the 10-12V level up to 40-50 Volts or higher to see how it counts? OF course this involves using higher voltage/current rated MOSFETs (or thyristors but you have to master thyristors like Romero if you use them). Romero also mentioned the use of other wire material than copper.
These 'ramblings' are not a complain to you of course I only mean that some systematic approach should be followed if someone wishes to go ahead.

Greetings, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 18, 2013, 08:51:06 AM

Guys we must work together
If one of us has a free energy device should we post it? ??? ?

We are slaves to the dollar and energy dependance are the shackles that bind us.
I watched a vid the other day about a people in Africa their country was at war because of the oil and greed that come with it, they were displaced into a neighboring country, raiders would come and wrape there wives and cut off the ears and lips of the men.
These events and worse are being played out all over the world so if we have free energy should it be given to the world or should we hold out for money ??? ??? ??? ??? ??
You decide
For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 18, 2013, 09:21:12 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 18, 2013, 08:48:29 AM
Hi totoalas,

When I showed the schematic first as per Tito's text description, I wrote that I did not include any Zener diode in the schematic because its function was not mentioned, and I noticed if Zener diode(s) are used in that description than they may be connected in parallel with C1 and C2 to limit voltage level, preventing any run-away situation. Now we know as per Romero's kind contribution that this circuit (built as per Tito's description) is able to run for a short time then all the initial charge is used up. This means that Zener diodes are not needed, AT LEAST not in parallel with the capacitors. If Zeners are needed for other places in such a circuit, then the type and ratings should come after we know what task these Zeners should do.

Has someone done switch-on time for the S1 and S2 as long as 0.5* L/R second and see how much voltage is received in C2 when preferably a few volts was consumed from C1? Has someone increased the intial voltage in the caps from the 10-12V level up to 40-50 Volts or higher to see how it counts? OF course this involves using higher voltage/current rated MOSFETs (or thyristors but you have to master thyristors like Romero if you use them). Romero also mentioned the use of other wire material than copper.
These 'ramblings' are not a complain to you of course I only mean that some systematic approach should be followed if someone wishes to go ahead.

Greetings, Gyula

Thanks all you say are constructive and will try to digest even in a slow but sure way to meet our objective
Im just collecting info on hv pulse and just found xee2 fits into my requirement input v from 1.5 to 24 v and can run on solar its a jacob ladder
Ill try to make a neat circuit on a wood i m also considering slayers latest circuit where the rf is concentrated only on the tip of the wire end

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 18, 2013, 01:56:23 PM

:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 18, 2013, 02:10:31 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2013, 07:49:14 AM

Seeeeee

Well, I believe, to offer money to somebody to finance some drugs when the person suffers a disease, equals an equivalent of prayer or good word, nothing else; and that was the reason I did not intend to trumpet that. I did not expect any obligation, what I clearly noted. Circumstantially my wife has alike disease and I know great benefit of the drug I intended to finance. The drug is pretty expensive in the USA, but abroad can be bought for even as low as one-fifth of our price, what I use to do regularly, by Internet or by phone / mail.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 18, 2013, 03:52:51 PM

http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/dcreschg.html (http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/dcreschg.html) :) TESLA DC COIL DESIGN

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 18, 2013, 06:34:40 PM

Good find totoalas :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 18, 2013, 07:52:38 PM

http://www.draksplace.com/SSIC/Test1/SSICT1.pdf (http://www.draksplace.com/SSIC/Test1/SSICT1.pdf)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 19, 2013, 09:49:19 AM

Magnetic bi toroid raw power 190213 yt totoalas
this bi toroid has the following
one primary 6 strands 30 turns shorted connected to earth ( water pipe) and center tap of two secondaries 30 t each
the ends of the secondaries are in parallel with the caps 33000 uf 63 v dc not pre charged
Missing are the diodes to charge up the caps
Using the normally open contact of flyswatter one end is connected to the primary and the other end Im tapping to all the parts coils magnet and caps to show the intensity of the spark and the charging effect just placing the wire on the surface of the berryllium oxide ferrite magnet from microwave oven
Im still looking for a hv flyback to do more tests ...
this is somewhat similar to gyulas circuit but with only one switch
Kidniken showed great details on his latest bitt video .... my problem is the cost 50 Renminbi each toroid core and the need to cut the other into halves
So itested the microwave oven ring magnets which is showing same results with gyulas
Either Ill settle for a pc fan switch but still missing on the hv part
In all these test the combination of supply pos or neg plus earth ground usually turns yellow spark into white or intense glow
it all confirms peter lindermans plasma mod cant read his circuit .....in his video on the 555 timer.....hope somebody help me out on this
totoalas :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 20, 2013, 03:58:44 AM

update on gyulas ckt
used a pc fan with pot neos and magnetic switch relays
speed is too fast for the relay to energize or my 2 amp power supply is not enough for the 12v coil
also must use two separate n o contact relays if caps to stay in precharged state no choice but the 555 timer is the only way

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 20, 2013, 04:24:25 PM

I guess I have solved one Tito's secret. Sometime in the past Tito mentioned that in his invention he uses a solution found in Tesla's Ozone Patent. Till now nobody seems to get, what exactly Tito meant.
In the post under this link
http://www.overunity.com/6734/real-ou-effect-to-share-with-everyone/msg206661/#msg206661 (http://www.overunity.com/6734/real-ou-effect-to-share-with-everyone/msg206661/#msg206661)
Tito gives an answer to a guy (FatChance!!!) who states a specific point of view:
"_{Simply because there is no overunity to be had from discharging a capacitor into a coil.
What you believe as overunity, is actually performed in everyday modern electronic devices.
I'm talking about the switched power supply. This is discharging a capacitor into a coil and
then stores the coil Bemf in the output capacitor. And there is no overunity what-so-ever.
In the best case, the switched power supply can reach 99% efficiency when using the best
components available, aka low ESR capacitors, LOW Rdson mosfets and the finest coils with
low resistance, very low hysteresis and eddy current losses.

All cases showing overunity while discharging coils or capacitors is always underunity.
Any overunity reports is just a clear sign of a person lacking the necessary measurement skills.}"

Tito's answer: "_{hi FC

try to study the ozone patent and your belief may be change ok} "

I guess, Tito's essence starts at about 85 verse, page 1 of the patent original text (patent # 568177):
"_{Around the controller is formed a circuit of low self-induction, which includes a condenser L and the primary M of a transformer. The circuit including the motor is of relatively high self-induction, and this property is imparted to it by the coils of the motor, or, when these are not sufficient, by the addition of suitable choking-coils, so that at each break of the motor-circuit a current of high electromotive force will be developed for charging the condenser, which may therefore be small and inexpensive. The condenser discharges through the circuit which is completed through the brushes G K and the controller H, and since the self-induction of this circuit, as well as the capacity of the condenser itself, may be given practically any desired value the frequency of the discharge-current may be adjusted at will. The potential of the high-frequency discharge-current is raised by a secondary coil N in inductive relation to the primary M.}"

Here is another link with relative subject:
http://www.overunity.com/7941/tommey-reeds-pulse-generator-output-test-update/msg197620/#msg197620 (http://www.overunity.com/7941/tommey-reeds-pulse-generator-output-test-update/msg197620/#msg197620)

" _{Hi tom good day
how did you made your PWM?
i mean how could it last the switching on and off?} "

And answer, just two posts below:

_{Otits,

The pulse generator is design so the kick back effect wont destroy the mosfet.
Think of one way valves, power goes in, and the kick back (or say fly back), goes into the cap.
If you add a diode to a coil, the fly back is shorted out to prevent the mosfet from being zap from the high voltage kick back.
I use 4 diodes for that reason, but add a cap into the center of the 2 diodes to collect the back emf.

Tom.}

Also, I found very important this link (innovation_station):
http://www.overunity.com/7513/creating-free-energy-out-of-collapsing-magnetic-field/msg184532/#msg184532 (http://www.overunity.com/7513/creating-free-energy-out-of-collapsing-magnetic-field/msg184532/#msg184532)
go and read it.

and this

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg202694/#msg202694 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg202694/#msg202694)
"_{what i'm saying is, as i am studying tesla's different kinds of patent, i concentrated most in this patents:}_{a) U.S. Patent 0,568,178 -
b) U.S. Patent 0,568,179 -
c) U.S. Patent 0,568,180 -
d) U.S. Patent 0,577,670 -

i've read also the teslas interview what forest's is posting in this subject

and i come up in a very simple solution when i combine bearden and bedini's technology.

sorry buddy i cannot give my circuit yet but i'm telling you the truth.

the only thing that i did not give is the arrangement of the circuit. ok its an rlc.

DO YOU KNOW THAT USING THIS METHOD CAN GENERATE KLWATT FROM A 1.5 VOLTS!
ofcource sub-staging technique must be used ok. "}I'm just reading these patents; right now I can only say that patent # 568178 is about setting resonance in a circuit.

I'm continuing to track Tito.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 21, 2013, 05:42:07 AM

HV DC PLASMA LVHV AC PULSE CHARGER 210213 yt totoalas
http://youtu.be/sxXa1ZxHAxs (http://youtu.be/sxXa1ZxHAxs)

Using transfomer input and output terminal as LV HV ac source one can be used for loop to pulse circuit and the other hv for pulse charging Flyswatter 4,5 v dc input and dc plasma output with water tap faucet as earth .Spark is changed to plasma when earthed

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on March 02, 2013, 06:31:10 PM

At reply # 2746 ( http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352052/#msg352052 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352052/#msg352052) ) Tito said "just use a computer fan for switching and just for simplicity." Can somebody explain why computer fan for switching?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 03, 2013, 09:10:22 AM

Quote from: Qwert on March 02, 2013, 06:31:10 PM
At reply # 2746 ( http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352052/#msg352052 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352052/#msg352052) ) Tito said "just use a computer fan for switching and just for simplicity." Can somebody explain why computer fan for switching?

hi qwert
my understanding for the fan using neo magnet on the blades and reed switch for fast switching of two cols alternatively....instead of 555 timer and fan is readily available

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 03, 2013, 10:44:59 AM

http://youtu.be/oe9VbSvthAY
ENERGY AMPLIFICATION PY 3 JACOBS LADDER 030313

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on March 03, 2013, 11:54:09 AM

Im give up now on building solidstate. I cant see a clear hole to produce an overunity.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 03, 2013, 05:07:48 PM

in the video added by overunity on kapanadze
etting pn a windless and sunless situation on a remote mountain
he used the info in the internet
earth rotatIOn, ground, battery, small spark, kapanadze replication, light. heating element
and well FREE ENERGY
USING OFF THE SHELF PARTS
WATER TAP, BATTERY, FLYSWATTER, FLYBACK,
PINGPONG OR KAPANADZE????

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Kev on March 12, 2013, 06:35:14 PM

You want to amplify energy from this circuit here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnJFonvzr1E ?
;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 12, 2013, 10:09:32 PM

Quote from: Kev on March 12, 2013, 06:35:14 PM
You want to amplify energy from this circuit here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwvqYAIRDsM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwvqYAIRDsM) ?
;)

That video is unavailable

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Kev on March 12, 2013, 11:17:21 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on March 12, 2013, 10:09:32 PM
That video is unavailable

Mags

Sorry, wrong link ;D

This is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnJFonvzr1E

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 13, 2013, 08:18:14 AM

Quote from: Kev on March 12, 2013, 11:17:21 PM
Sorry, wrong link ;D

This is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnJFonvzr1E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnJFonvzr1E)

This won't work, it's only a starting point, better to use anyway like solar panel to charge big capacitor....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on March 13, 2013, 09:26:48 AM

Quote from: forest on March 13, 2013, 08:18:14 AM
This won't work, it's only a starting point, better to use anyway like solar panel to charge big capacitor....

It's nothing special; an old, pretty well known hoax.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Groundloop on March 13, 2013, 10:12:06 AM

Quote from: Qwert on March 13, 2013, 09:26:48 AM
It's nothing special; an old, pretty well known hoax.

Qwert,

The Ambient Power Module (AMP) do work. But you can not get any high power out of them. The AMP is
converting anything that is received in the antenna to DC power. If you use a metal plate as an antenna
and good grounding, then you can collect some energy from air that is not only radio waves. But the power
output is low and you can not run your house from one AMP module. If you build a lot of modules then you
can collect some few Watts of power. But you will need a LOT of them.

GL.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Kev on March 14, 2013, 12:59:22 PM

Quote from: Groundloop on March 13, 2013, 10:12:06 AM
Qwert,

The Ambient Power Module (AMP) do work. But you can not get any high power out of them. The AMP is
converting anything that is received in the antenna to DC power. If you use a metal plate as an antenna
and good grounding, then you can collect some energy from air that is not only radio waves. But the power
output is low and you can not run your house from one AMP module. If you build a lot of modules then you
can collect some few Watts of power. But you will need a LOT of them.

GL.

Unless if we can amplify it.

-Kev

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 14, 2013, 07:21:01 PM

Quote from: Kev on March 14, 2013, 12:59:22 PM
Unless if we can amplify it.

-Kev

Yes. Unless. ::)

Its easy to say. Unless. Unless. It sounds funny when you say it too many times. ;D

What is an amplifier? Well, the ones I am familiar with, only come 'close' to Pout being equal, let alone greater, than Pin. And these are real world amplifiers, whether they be RF, audio or even just a relay. A relay is an "amplifier". But in each case, there needs to be a 'power source' capable of greater than the desired output, even though the input 'signal' that we want to replicate at higher voltage and amperage, is small.

So when you say 'we amplify it', you are talking about a totally different kind of amplification than we are familiar with. ;) But, I understand what you mean.
You sound quite sure of it. But if this is as much as you can tell us, then nothing will be accomplished except words on a screen. ;)

So ok, we make the circuit you presented. Then we 'amplify it. Hmm, well why is does it seem to be a requirement to use 'this' type of circuit as an input, when maybe we could just use a large cap, that should be able to be replenished by the 'amplified output? It wouldnt take much to 'generate' an initial charge to get things going. In fact a shake flashlight or a small hand crank generator will build a charge faster than the 'circuit'.

Was just wondering about that. ;)

Anyways, if you have any 'amplifier' circuits for us to see, Im sure everyone would be very appreciative. ;) Otherwise, like I said above, its easy to 'say' "Amplify it", without a requisite of OU. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on March 14, 2013, 07:30:27 PM

Hi Folks,

Member Qwert has made I think an interesting observation on earlier posts from Tito, see previous page:
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg353368/#msg353368 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg353368/#msg353368)

I believe he has collected the core of Tito's findings and Tito has not reacted on it yet, maybe just because he already has a new born baby and busy or he does not comment on purpose... LOL

What do you think?

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 14, 2013, 11:07:58 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on March 14, 2013, 07:30:27 PM
Hi Folks,

Member Qwert has made I think an interesting observation on earlier posts from Tito, see previous page:
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg353368/#msg353368 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg353368/#msg353368)

I believe he has collected the core of Tito's findings and Tito has not reacted on it yet, maybe just because he already has a new born baby and busy or he does not comment on purpose... LOL

What do you think?

Gyula

Tito first laid claim that the Igniter pat held the answers. The igniter works on the same principals as the Ozone circuit. The capacitor is charged very 'efficiently' to a higher voltage than the input voltage. So being that we know that 'efficiently' doesnt necessarily mean OU, I guess the advantage would have to be that we raised the voltage potential that conventionally is very close to the same amount of energy as taken from the source. Is it?

Is there an advantage to having 1kwh at 100v than 10kwh at 10v? Where is the OU?

RLC. How do we derive more power from an RLC without killing the oscillation 'and' get more out than in??

We are missing at least 1 ingredient, if OU exists. All the things we do know as experimenters in this 'industry' ;) would benefit greatly with this mysterious ingredient.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Kev on March 15, 2013, 03:15:09 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on March 14, 2013, 07:21:01 PM
Yes. Unless. ::)

Its easy to say. Unless. Unless. It sounds funny when you say it too many times. ;D

What is an amplifier? Well, the ones I am familiar with, only come 'close' to Pout being equal, let alone greater, than Pin. And these are real world amplifiers, whether they be RF, audio or even just a relay. A relay is an "amplifier". But in each case, there needs to be a 'power source' capable of greater than the desired output, even though the input 'signal' that we want to replicate at higher voltage and amperage, is small.

So when you say 'we amplify it', you are talking about a totally different kind of amplification than we are familiar with. ;) But, I understand what you mean.
You sound quite sure of it. But if this is as much as you can tell us, then nothing will be accomplished except words on a screen. ;)

So ok, we make the circuit you presented. Then we 'amplify it. Hmm, well why is does it seem to be a requirement to use 'this' type of circuit as an input, when maybe we could just use a large cap, that should be able to be replenished by the 'amplified output? It wouldnt take much to 'generate' an initial charge to get things going. In fact a shake flashlight or a small hand crank generator will build a charge faster than the 'circuit'.

Was just wondering about that. ;)

Anyways, if you have any 'amplifier' circuits for us to see, Im sure everyone would be very appreciative. ;) Otherwise, like I said above, its easy to 'say' "Amplify it", without a requisite of OU. ;)

Mags

;D Thanks for understanding!
but I didn't achieve anything yet in amplifying. :(
I came across this video about Bi-toroid transformer but not sure if it's true ??? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVYiT4zK9Kc
He claims %377 overunity

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: romerouk on March 15, 2013, 03:38:20 AM

@Magluvin
''Is there an advantage to having 1kwh at 100v than 10kwh at 10v? Where is the OU?''

It is a big advantage in running at higher voltage, first because power from the 'air' is in that range then to create a resonant system with high voltage will require small value capacitors that means cheaper comparing with a resonant system running at 10v where we will need large capacitance. Tuning and stability is much better with high voltage.
''RLC. How do we derive more power from an RLC without killing the oscillation 'and' get more out than in?? ''
Should run the main coil(sender) with sharp pulses and not in resonance and larger gap in between pulses, the resonance comes into action after each pulse and in between the main and output coil or only in the output coil.

Romero

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 15, 2013, 10:51:30 AM

I tend to disagree.....Look what Tesla is looking for during many years. An efficient make&break interrupter.
If just by using HV capacitor OU could essentially pop up then we would not discuss Tito method here so long!

I cracked what the problem is with HV, and we were silly to not counting this factor as a crucial one. Please, now consider it. Tesla always used HV WITH POWER behind ! Even if he used HV capacitors with capacitance similiar to those used today he had a bank of PHYSICALLY LARGE bottles, allowing him to get many amperes of HV as instantaneous impulse. He even tried to explain it to us but we were blind. He said that at spark gap there is always a loss ! That's why he invented rotary spark gap and interrupters. Simply you have to avoid looses at all case! Look at Aviso videos , I bet Tito would recomend them ;-)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 15, 2013, 09:20:01 PM

Quote from: romerouk on March 15, 2013, 03:38:20 AM
@Magluvin
''Is there an advantage to having 1kwh at 100v than 10kwh at 10v? Where is the OU?''

It is a big advantage in running at higher voltage, first because power from the 'air' is in that range then to create a resonant system with high voltage will require small value capacitors that means cheaper comparing with a resonant system running at 10v where we will need large capacitance. Tuning and stability is much better with high voltage.
''RLC. How do we derive more power from an RLC without killing the oscillation 'and' get more out than in?? ''
Should run the main coil(sender) with sharp pulses and not in resonance and larger gap in between pulses, the resonance comes into action after each pulse and in between the main and output coil or only in the output coil.

Romero

Hey Romero.

How have you been? :)

I get that to produce an amount of energy to a primary or a load that at lower voltages the cap must be big compared to high voltage. Also it takes less current at high voltage to produce a similar power output.

I also understand that using very short pulses helps to let the secondary do its thing without the primary affecting it, because the primary was only on for a minute amount of time, never the less, a powerful event. But if the secondary is ringing at resonance, how long will that last into a load, and does it add up to more power than 'the powerful event' pulse? ;)

Thanks

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 28, 2013, 08:32:13 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp_h9QHv0Ao (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp_h9QHv0Ao)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z00Y1DhrZIk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z00Y1DhrZIk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2j40tXEgYw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2j40tXEgYw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzq2uoC1UNM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzq2uoC1UNM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7t-5-ddaJs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7t-5-ddaJs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng0ZXtJ0uRY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng0ZXtJ0uRY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7agmK5qD5OY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7agmK5qD5OY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwkvakrvGoY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwkvakrvGoY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kzBF7SiQz8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kzBF7SiQz8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GFZEBRMcek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU7ujSpFyc4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU7ujSpFyc4) 8) ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSLL4WsGyqU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOwtUAqfR-g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOwtUAqfR-g)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NveV_Dgg-Xw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NveV_Dgg-Xw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwTKN3gxN1E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwTKN3gxN1E)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gURCBcu9hMk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gURCBcu9hMk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srbWl8-ia_E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srbWl8-ia_E)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zipbcI143LY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zipbcI143LY)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NClj4XxkUMg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NClj4XxkUMg) ? ??? ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYhEbjhhcAg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYhEbjhhcAg) ? ??? :D ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NzUm7UEEIY ? ::) ;D

"Its the ION not the ELECTRON" - moray

:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Kev on March 29, 2013, 12:10:24 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 28, 2013, 08:32:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp_h9QHv0Ao (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp_h9QHv0Ao)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z00Y1DhrZIk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z00Y1DhrZIk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2j40tXEgYw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2j40tXEgYw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzq2uoC1UNM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzq2uoC1UNM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7t-5-ddaJs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7t-5-ddaJs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng0ZXtJ0uRY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng0ZXtJ0uRY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7agmK5qD5OY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7agmK5qD5OY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwkvakrvGoY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwkvakrvGoY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kzBF7SiQz8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kzBF7SiQz8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GFZEBRMcek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU7ujSpFyc4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU7ujSpFyc4) 8) ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSLL4WsGyqU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOwtUAqfR-g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOwtUAqfR-g)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NveV_Dgg-Xw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NveV_Dgg-Xw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwTKN3gxN1E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwTKN3gxN1E)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gURCBcu9hMk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gURCBcu9hMk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srbWl8-ia_E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srbWl8-ia_E)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zipbcI143LY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zipbcI143LY)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NClj4XxkUMg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NClj4XxkUMg) ? ??? ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYhEbjhhcAg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYhEbjhhcAg) ? ??? :D ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NzUm7UEEIY ? ::) ;D

"Its the ION not the ELECTRON" - moray

:)

Hi Tito!
I'm going to watch every single video

Will post comments later about it 8)

Kevin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 29, 2013, 12:02:27 PM

Quote from: Kev on March 29, 2013, 12:10:24 AM
Hi Tito!
I'm going to watch every single video

Will post comments later about it 8)

Kevin

Quote from: Kev on March 29, 2013, 12:10:24 AM
Hi Tito!
I'm going to watch every single video

Will post comments later about it 8)

Tito tits one video is enough which one you think is related to your invention im still watching 10 commandments by richard burton lol

Kevin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on March 29, 2013, 08:58:52 PM

good to see you back 8)
brother ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on March 30, 2013, 06:39:07 AM

Quote from: totoalas on March 29, 2013, 12:02:27 PM

Tito tits one video is enough which one you think is related to your invention

This one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzzy2dtjs_0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzzy2dtjs_0)

and oihers from this site:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2003-free-energy-last-step-step-must-see.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2003-free-energy-last-step-step-must-see.html)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 30, 2013, 07:13:27 AM

Thanks qwert

Tito im in cavite right now where you na want to see ur baby teetsla lol will be back in macau china monday night

??? 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on March 30, 2013, 12:18:17 PM

Quote from: Qwert on March 30, 2013, 06:39:07 AM
This one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzzy2dtjs_0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzzy2dtjs_0)

and oihers from this site:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2003-free-energy-last-step-step-must-see.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2003-free-energy-last-step-step-must-see.html)

Hi Folks,

Has any of you figured out the possible schematic of the setup shown in the above video? I wonder which two points he closes with the stick? He never showed the capacitor voltage as discharged, only charged. If I figure correctly there were two facing, non-touching wire points near to each other what he closed by clapping them together with his hand-held stick. Do you see this likewise?
I found a schematic from his other video and attached here, I wonder if he simply replaced the charge battery with the capacitor to store the energy of the collapsing field in the capacitor? Unfortunately, he did not show any input power consumed to get the 100V+ voltage in the capacitor. SO where is the free energy? LOL

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 30, 2013, 03:07:29 PM

I was puzzled by Tito's selection of videos - why would he choose orgonite and put it in this thread. A couple of observations:

Orgone is a positive energy used for healing; noranur is its destructive opposite counterpart. There are various new technologies which seem to use/produce orgone to promote healing. Orgonite is just one means for producing orgone and neutralizing noranur. There are some who would argue that the Joe Cell produces orgone. JC water has been shown to clear up brackish water and speed healing (see posts in Yahoo JC2 group).

Is it possible that the resin and metal components in orgonite function together to create an ionic imbalance that serves as an opening for converting/transmuting the aether in its area into orgone? (as per Teets' Moray quote)

I believe orgone is just one manifestation of the aether; electricity another. Is it possible that we could use orgone-producing setups (like orgonite, layered paper and foil, Joe Cell) to produce an open dipole that interacts with the aether to produce a steady emanation of orgone which can be transduced into electricity (and amplified)?

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 30, 2013, 04:15:19 PM

it depends on what exactly is orgone ? too mystical for me so far ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 30, 2013, 06:43:06 PM

Good point, Forest.
In my experience, orgone is the same as chi, the life energy that moves through every living thing. It is not spirit. Rather, it is just a form of energy which can be subtly sensed with training. It can be channeled, and used for healing. Many healers in the developing world have this suble sense of energies (orgone), and are able to manipulate this energy with their hands or their will. When I lived in Latin America, these people were referred to as having "fluid in their hands" ("fluido en las manos"). They could feel and manipulate energies thru their hands and manipulate them in persons to promote healing.

I hear what you're saying that it sounds mystical, but I think it is simply rather in the realm of subtle awareness that anyone can train themselves to have. Practicioners of tai chi and martial arts would relate to this.

I don't want to get off-topic in this thread, and I am raising this because I think there is some common ground between orgone/chi production and certain alternative energy setups. I would argue that some of these setups were in fact producing orgone. John Searle talks about the sense of wellness his family felt when his SEG was running in the basement of his home, many years ago. There are accounts of persons feeling very well around Bruce de Palma's N Machine. This is similar in cases with the Joe Cell. I the case of the JC, some believe this sense of wellness has to do with torsion fields - again a suble energy that one can learn to feel. Conversely, there are certain kinds of torsion fields that seem to produce un-wellness, and headaches.

Henry Moray's insistence on the ion as the source of energy in his work gives us a clue, I think. Could orgone also be used in place of his "Swedish stone" (tourmaline) to provide a useable form of electrical energy? I could say more, but will stop out of respect for this thread. If people think this concept does not relate directly enough to this topic (E Amplif.), I can start a new thread.
Respectully,
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 31, 2013, 01:15:00 AM

Add to that we go up to mountain springs to recharge our body energies
Stare at the sun in early morning sunrise to increade healing powers
Walk barefoot in the neach to absorb the heat in the sand
Carry wood or stone or copper amulets for healing
Oracion means latin prsyers or aramaic language for protecton and healing modalities

Earths magnetism and 7.8 hz frequency has effect on our 85 %body fluid
Back to earth.... Tito never tires himself with hints
A video and a picture of the input output with his invention hidden in a black box $???? WHY NO TITo TIts

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Kev on March 31, 2013, 02:41:11 AM

Quote from: totoalas on March 29, 2013, 12:02:27 PM
Tito tits one video is enough which one you think is related to your invention im still watching 10 commandments by richard burton lol

What do you mean? ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 31, 2013, 03:51:35 AM

To arrange the electron and make every single electron fall in line from everywhere, then we need to make a continous and actively discharging small energy in the vicinity and fool that arranged large amount of electron into other door for a very useful and controlled electricity okay?

We don't actually need to produce large amount of input to create large amount of energy but what we need is to control it wisely and effectively through small electronic components.

yin and yang techniques.

The all energy we need is already there, all we need to do is to activate them wisely. 8)

Triode actually is a good controller of large amount of electricity using a very small energy controller. hmmmmm.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 31, 2013, 05:08:08 AM

Quote from: Kev on March 31, 2013, 02:41:11 AM
What do you mean? ???

Qweft answered my qwery to tito.... Its holy week in the philippines and no tv shows on easter friday thats why im azking tito the shortcut video nearest his discovery

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 31, 2013, 05:12:34 AM

Teets
"Tri this"

Get a new pair of sun glasses ....
Those make your nose look Too Big ...

See >> 8) <<

Yeah thats right !! these guys won't tell you how silly they look.

Thats what friends are for .....[I meant to tell you last year]

On another note this space really isn't empty >> <<

There is more power there than could ever be imagined.....

Happy Easter To you and yours
And to All....

Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 31, 2013, 05:16:33 AM

8)

Triode actually is a good controller of large amount of electricity using a very small energy controller. hmmmmm.
[/quote]

Kapanadze replications had been slowly doing that
More more more tips d sigarilyo hehehe ??? ??? :-[

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 31, 2013, 05:22:04 AM

@Totoalas....

Hows your friend Teslatronics doing??!!

Happy Easter
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 31, 2013, 06:25:04 AM

Quote from: ramset on March 31, 2013, 05:22:04 AM

@Totoalas....

Hows your friend Teslatronics doing??!!

Happy Easter
Chet

Hes charging his slayer tesla coils lol
But slayer is catching up with full support from friends in the forum
They cannot beat tito 3 years and counting hehehe

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 31, 2013, 01:09:06 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 31, 2013, 03:51:35 AM
To arrange the electron and make every single electron fall in line from everywhere, then we need to make a continous and actively discharging small energy in the vicinity and fool that arranged large amount of electron into other door for a very useful and controlled electricity okay?

We don't actually need to produce large amount of input to create large amount of energy but what we need is to control it wisely and effectively through small electronic components.
...
Triode actually is a good controller of large amount of electricity using a very small energy controller. hmmmmm.

Tito's first post in this thread:

QuoteCurrently i am trying to amplify a small voltage into high voltage and its current from milliamps to amps now
Can somebody demonstrate amplify a 1.5 volts with its milliamps into high voltage and from milliamps to amps?

Teets' third post specifies he wants to develop something like Floyd Smith's Vacuum Triode Amplifier (with diagram):
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg155915/#msg155915 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg155915/#msg155915)

Bottom of first page - Tito's post:

Quotehere is floyd sweet
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Inventors/FloydSweet/index.html (http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Inventors/FloydSweet/index.html)

Here's somethihng from Rex Research about the FS VTA:

Quote
The vacuum triode is a solid state device consisting of conditioned permanent magnets capable of producing a motional field. This field opens the gate to the Dirac Sea where negative energy is able to flow from an into the triode's receiving coils. The coils are very small diameter copper wire but are capable of producing in excess of 5 kilowatts of useful power; this in itself is a clear indicator that the type of electrical energy provided by the device is not conventional. The wire sizes employed by the device would not be capable of carrying such large currents without excessive heat gain, however, the triode's coils actually run cooler when loaded at 5 kW.

Source: http://www.rexresearch.com/sweet/1nothing.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/sweet/1nothing.htm)

Seems the Smith VTA is accomplishing everything Teets was seeking to do. He's continuously stated that high voltage is not necessary for running his setup (just like VTA).

How to put this together and incorporate key elements from Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter. I would guess that Tito's setup has elements of both.

Back to cooking. Happy Easter everybody.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Kev on March 31, 2013, 03:12:35 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 31, 2013, 03:51:35 AM
To arrange the electron and make every single electron fall in line from everywhere, then we need to make a continous and actively discharging small energy in the vicinity and fool that arranged large amount of electron into other door for a very useful and controlled electricity okay?

We don't actually need to produce large amount of input to create large amount of energy but what we need is to control it wisely and effectively through small electronic components.

yin and yang techniques.

The all energy we need is already there, all we need to do is to activate them wisely. 8)

Triode actually is a good controller of large amount of electricity using a very small energy controller. hmmmmm.

I don't understand ???

How do you get more Watts output than input?

Thanks ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 31, 2013, 08:01:48 PM

Quote from: Kev on March 31, 2013, 03:12:35 PM
I don't understand ???

How do you get more Watts output than input?

Thanks ;D

Let say for example, a magnet is placed at the bottom of a paper with a black sand on top of paper then you will notice that every black sand will arranged their selves and fall in line instantly from everywhere. something like that. :)

Well, the big question there is how to fool the arranged electron?. and there the pulse is needed to make and transfer their direction of them into different door ok?. ;)

The process is continuous arranging of electron and continuous changing the direction of the large amount of electron. and that is naturally truth and i believe everyone agree with that ok?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 31, 2013, 11:29:36 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 31, 2013, 08:01:48 PM

Let say for example, a magnet is placed at the bottom of a paper with a black sand on top of paper then you will notice that every black sand will arranged their selves and fall in line instantly from everywhere. something like that. :)

Well, the big question there is how to fool the arranged electron?. and there the pulse is needed to make and transfer their direction of them into different door ok?. ;)

The process is continuous arranging of electron and continuous changing the direction of the large amount of electron. and that is naturally truth and i believe everyone agree with that ok?

I believe Teets did say at one point that his setup involved caps, coils, diodes and magnet(s).
Pulse: cap discharging?
Into Different Door: using magnet and diode?
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on April 01, 2013, 01:33:51 AM

Kawawa naman kaung lahat hangang ngaun d nyo parin alam kung anu sikreto ng free energy. : 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 01, 2013, 07:29:46 AM

ok, ok , I think this is Tito setup or very close : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4dP1IF70a8&feature=youtu.be

Just imagine that you have 5kW inside the initial Tesla coil powered by 1.5V battery in a few stages for example....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 01, 2013, 11:22:18 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTb5q9o8F8c&list=UUaKHAdY13gp-un2hn_HJehg&index=1&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTb5q9o8F8c&list=UUaKHAdY13gp-un2hn_HJehg&index=1&feature=plcp)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Kev on April 01, 2013, 11:48:13 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 31, 2013, 08:01:48 PM

Let say for example, a magnet is placed at the bottom of a paper with a black sand on top of paper then you will notice that every black sand will arranged their selves and fall in line instantly from everywhere. something like that. :)

Well, the big question there is how to fool the arranged electron?. and there the pulse is needed to make and transfer their direction of them into different door ok?. ;)

The process is continuous arranging of electron and continuous changing the direction of the large amount of electron. and that is naturally truth and i believe everyone agree with that ok?

What is a door? ???
If I can get a picture or a video on how it works. :(

Kevin 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on April 01, 2013, 01:02:41 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on March 31, 2013, 11:29:36 PM
I believe Teets did say at one point that his setup involved caps, coils, diodes and magnet(s).
Pulse: cap discharging?
Into Different Door: using magnet and diode?
B

At another point Teets said that he meant several different setups; now, guess which one he meant at any given time.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 02, 2013, 06:20:20 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on April 01, 2013, 01:33:51 AM
Kawawa naman kaung lahat hangang ngaun d nyo parin alam kung anu sikreto ng free energy. : 8)

Anu ba naman kase ang sikreto mo ha ate? ;D :-*

Do you know that delayed lenz effect has something to do with the delayed menstruation? ??? :-X ;D lol joke
i'm actually conducting more test every night :o ;D joke you're so very serious. hahahahhahahhahhahahha ;D
see my lips, its red. :-* lol joke
co'z i'm doing this => :P lol joke

oh boy i'm getting wild weird again ;D

smile everyone that's all joke :D ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Kev on April 02, 2013, 06:53:58 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 02, 2013, 06:20:20 PM

Anu ba naman kase ang sikreto mo ha ate? ;D :-*

Do you know that delayed lenz effect has something to do with the delayed menstruation? ??? :-X ;D lol joke
i'm actually conducting more test every night :o ;D joke you're so very serious. hahahahhahahhahhahahha ;D
see my lips, its red. :-* lol joke
co'z i'm doing this => :P lol joke

oh boy i'm getting wild weird again ;D

smile everyone that's all joke :D ;D

;D

Did you acheive energy amplification?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 02, 2013, 07:20:21 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 02, 2013, 06:20:20 PM

smile everyone that's all joke :D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on April 02, 2013, 08:32:47 PM

HHMMMMMmmm
Geeezze....
A poivoit ,

Teets is a freakin Perv.............

Teets
was that you in the black leather mask with the pink Tutu outside the Dew drop in last week?

??

@mags
Sad but true.................

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 02, 2013, 08:54:34 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 02, 2013, 06:20:20 PM

Anu ba naman kase ang sikreto mo ha ate? ;D :-*

Do you know that delayed lenz effect has something to do with the delayed menstruation? ??? :-X ;D lol joke
i'm actually conducting more test every night :o ;D joke you're so very serious. hahahahhahahhahhahahha ;D
see my lips, its red. :-* lol joke
co'z i'm doing this => :P lol joke
So youre on a cycle with menstrual ion that youre conducting dont know if its related to full moon kapapanganak p lang pass ka muna lol 8)

oh boy i'm getting wild weird again ;D

smile everyone that's all joke :D ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on April 03, 2013, 08:12:44 AM

If God says: "you must love your neighbor just as much as you love yourself" but I joke of my neighbor instead, I joke of God.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 03, 2013, 06:12:56 PM

@mags

Why are you doing that? are you not ashamed of what you are doing?. :(

cutting my post and make me look bad to others eye? is that all you can do bro? :(

did you see the effect to some short thinker like chet? :-\ >:( ;D ::)

i believe that's how the devils move attack, did you not notice that? :)

that is just a joke in that post! >:(

>:(
>:(
>:(

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 03, 2013, 06:18:54 PM

Quote from: Qwert on April 03, 2013, 08:12:44 AM

If God says: "you must love your neighbor just as much as you love yourself" but I joke of my neighbor instead, I joke of God.

You are out of context!!! >:( >:( >:(

I just want everyone to laugh!!! >:(

i just made my joke to everyone, why did you pass it to God? ???

Patulan kuna yata mga to e. paki translate nga paring totoalaskador. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 03, 2013, 06:22:57 PM

hi everyone.

Do you know the use of the HAARP?, i got some info and i'm having a doubt about it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 03, 2013, 08:24:37 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 03, 2013, 06:12:56 PM
@mags

Why are you doing that? are you not ashamed of what you are doing?. :(

cutting my post and make me look bad to others eye? is that all you can do bro? :(

did you see the effect to some short thinker like chet? :-\ >:( ;D ::)

i believe that's how the devils move attack, did you not notice that? :)

that is just a joke in that post! >:(

>:(
>:(
>:(

;D

Well, sorry Tito. If you think everyone is here to get a good laugh, maybe you are in the wrong forum. ;)

I stuck with you 'for a while'. I tried to figure out the clues. And here we are. Just jokes.

Its just not very interesting anymore.

Maybe this thread should be locked as is. Its gone far off the mark from where it started. And it just isnt getting any better, thats for sure. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 03, 2013, 09:54:34 PM

Quote from: Tito

Patulan kuna yata mga to e. paki translate nga paring totoalaskador. ;D
/quote]
Translation
Will respond back with ????please translate priest toto from alaska ahemmmm.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on April 04, 2013, 01:07:13 AM

Quote from: totoalas on April 03, 2013, 09:54:34 PM
[quote author=Tito

Patulan kuna yata mga to e. paki translate nga paring totoalaskador. ;D

Translation
Will respond back with ??? ?please translate priest toto from alaska ahemmmm.

Hahaha! Very nice translation... ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 04, 2013, 09:11:34 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 03, 2013, 08:24:37 PM
Well, sorry Tito. If you think everyone is here to get a good laugh, maybe you are in the wrong forum. ;)

I stuck with you 'for a while'. I tried to figure out the clues. And here we are. Just jokes.

Its just not very interesting anymore.

Maybe this thread should be locked as is. Its gone far off the mark from where it started. And it just isnt getting any better, thats for sure. ;)

Mags

No! >:( i don't care if you're interested or what, but what you are doing to me is your are building a bad impression of me to others.

now if you want it to be locked then so locked yourself here and don't respond! >:(

since it is not getting any better, go make you're thread and i will not post there!!! >:(

i'm just making a joke and suddenly you pop up like a devil convincing others!! did you got that!?

if you don't like the joke then don't post ok!? >:(

YOU UNTHANKFULL!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(

I think stefan should be advice that for those who make fire without smoke should be locked! :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 04, 2013, 09:20:16 PM

OK

EVERYONE YOU LISTEN! >:(

THE TRUTH IS I DON'T REALLY HAVE PLAN TO REVEAL THE SECRET BUT HINTS ONLY OK SO DON'T EXPECT FOR THAT!

NOW AT LEAST YOU KNOW! >:(

AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
THE ALL HINTS THAT I GAVE YOU ARE TRUTH AND YOU CAN EVEN ANALIZE THEM THAT THEY ARE REALLY TRUTH!!! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 04, 2013, 10:28:08 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 04, 2013, 09:20:16 PM
OK

EVERYONE YOU LISTEN! >:(

THE TRUTH IS I DON'T REALLY HAVE PLAN TO REVEAL THE SECRET BUT HINTS ONLY OK SO DON'T EXPECT FOR THAT!

NOW AT LEAST YOU KNOW! >:(

AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
THE ALL HINTS THAT I GAVE YOU ARE TRUTH AND YOU CAN EVEN ANALIZE THEM THAT THEY ARE REALLY TRUTH!!! >:(

"THE TRUTH IS I DON'T REALLY HAVE PLAN TO REVEAL THE SECRET"

Yes, I believe that to be true. In fact I believe it is so true that the hints you give will never bring anyone to the 'secret(s)'. As you said, its not in your plan. ;)

"THE ALL HINTS THAT I GAVE YOU ARE TRUTH AND YOU CAN EVEN ANALIZE THEM THAT THEY ARE REALLY TRUTH!!!"

I believe that, for the most part. I have studied quite a bit since weve known each other. Many of these hints can be found out there, except they are involved with incomplete info of ideas and devices that are all over the internet. Im not disputing that most of it isnt true, for what its worth. ;)

The problem I have with it is, why give hints at all, when you know that they are so far off from being used by any of us and nothing will get accomplished on our end?
We have Forest, Bob, Toto(dont know what his stand is on all this now) and some others, and all the 'readers' of this thread,
(Read 391814 times) Do you think they are here to read your jokes? It is 'YOU' that they are here to 'LEARN' from based on your 'CLAIMS' of 'MANY' different types of OU devices accomplished. We didnt do that to ourselves. ;) We were mislead. Like a cult. For your joy and happiness of course.

You are responsible for that. ;)
Here is a question of truth. Should anyone here expect to be able to accomplish an OU device, just from your hints and clues as they have been given????? ???
Do you even understand the amount of time and efforts that many here have put into what you have told us? Not to mention the ones that dont even post here and are experimenting in the background. Only God knows those numbers as they are hidden in that big number (Read 391814 times). Thats not just you, me, Forest and Bobs reads. ;)
But dont you worry Tito. We have done it to ourselves(NOW AT LEAST YOU KNOW! >:( ). But maybe we wouldnt have, if you had not stated your many claims many times, or even just once. Theres a joke for ya. ;)
Look at the title of this forum, the title of this thread. Why do you think we are 'here'?? Do you think this is just a hangout to chat about 'Menstruation' and "red lips'???????? Really?????? Maybe 'Penthouse' has a forum for that kind of talk, cuz i dont see or hear anyone laughing. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 04, 2013, 10:38:01 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 04, 2013, 09:11:34 PM

YOU UNTHANKFULL!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(

I think stefan should be advice that for those who make fire without smoke should be locked! :P

What 'exactly' should I be thankful for Tito? Give me a 'real good' example please. ;)

Stefan has already warned 'you' about this thread and where it is going. Not me. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 04, 2013, 11:42:20 PM

As time has 'gone' byby, my hopes for OU diminishes some. I say some. I think Ive burned myself out some. I get sparse bursts on fresh ideas from myself and the community. :) But Im finding I have other things that are more important than putting a lot of time into just possibilities that are far maybe few to nada. Ive put myself through some harsh times a few times of putting too much efforts into projects. I cannot do that any more. Thats a hard fact I have learned and its burned in. Soon I might have to limit my time here for other ventures that seem more promising. Well if its batteries then it belongs here at OU. ;) In these times, one must diversify in order to do well or even survive. Look around. Its a fact. Like where I work. Corvette restorations. Well we do Hondas, Harleys, even have 1 1927 ford and a 1920 also now. If we didnt diversify the business, I might not have a job there. ;)

Im not quitting this yet. But Im leaning towards some other avenues like better batteries as I see some serious stagnation(suffocation, A123 ::) ) in that field and I think things should be way better by now. There are some new ideas coming with batteries and some seem to really simplify the whole process compared to what has been and is, and greater energy levels per volume/weight. Lower weight per volume, more common materials and safer chemicals including water and air, if anyone considers those safe anymore. ;)

There were oil spills/leaks here in the US recently.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=tar-sand-oil-and-pipeline-spill-risk

This is just ridiculous. It needs to stop. One of the spills Exxon was not held responsible as the spill was not 'determined' to be a spill???? 100,000 gallons is not a spill???? Its got to end. Haiti is just simply DESTROYED by oil spils and old pipelines leaking ALL OVER the country. The oil companies that made the structures and piplines say they are not responsible for it 'any longer'.?????? Im not sure why the Gulf was any different, yet the damages 'far' exceed what BP will have to divvy out. Far.

Something has to change.

But if I come up with anything good, Ill be posting it right here at OU and I hope all the readers will' benefit from it. FOR FREE!!! Thats why we are here. Or its at least why we should be here. ;) And thats the truth. ;)
I will not withhold from all because I dont want 'some' to have it because I dont like how they act or what they say.
I will not withhold from the good people because of some that I dont believe 'deserve' it.
Thats how the elite think. Except the elite think we are all undeserving. ;)

Magluvin :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 05, 2013, 01:21:44 AM

Very well put Mags. Don't give up and keep smiling.
I know it's discouraging when attention seeking individuals must lie and be deceitful just to get people to talk to them.
I feel a bit sorry for tito. It seems that the only way that he can get people to talk to him is to give out false and misleading clues of his remarkable device.
I really don't think he realizes what he is doing to some people. He gets them to experiment on his useless clues. They spend valuable time and possibly hard earned money for nothing.
And then he has the nerve to laugh and joke about it. He's quite the religious soul isn't he.

This is suppose to be a free energy forum where people share ideas and experiments. It's not a place to mislead people, waste their time and money just to laugh and say I have it and you don't.
Like you said before Mags(I think it was you), if anyone here happens to discover OU, they will probably share it and tito will try to take the credit for it because of his clues.
With all of his laughing and joking, he sure seems like the kind of person to try to take credit for other peoples hard work. It's just really sad that people still follow this loser after 3 years of BS.

To all, please don't let people who lie and mislead you get you down. Just take it as a learning experience and keep pursuing your own ideas. Some people will do anything just to get a little attention.

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 05, 2013, 01:49:01 AM

Hey mags we are on the same boat youve endured 3 years but not for me
NOw that Tito has spelled out The meaning of True To truth
Cant wait another 3 years
If he says what he said he have then so be it...
Ive beaten the ekectric company by using solar panels for nihht lighting
Use power factor correction for my airconditioning
Think hybrid forget free energy... Kapanadze rrplications on the way
I have a ceiling fan wind gen
An hho for my wrangler
A small step at a time thats my satisfaction
As for the jokes mind you we filipinos do it as it is embedded in our culture but we have high respect for other natinalities rspecially here in the forum

Tito is big enough for his actions .....lets move on lots of things to do
Titos thread is like a venue where everybody read or study something and provided the link as we are a
Having our daytime jobs
Lots of experiments today till sunday pulse motor solar booster 555 timer research on ionizer ph alkaline and spiritual serenity for guidance

So mags just hold on ....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 05, 2013, 04:02:15 PM

:-\ stop complain like an old woman , read Tito tips , watch Aviso videos and be brave to lost many many days to get elements combination which works >:( that's the real problem - every elements on market are made on purpose to never giving free energy..... for example most capacitors are internally not suitable for giving large current impulses and most mosfets are limited to low voltage or by Rds(on) too high to even see a blink of energy we want to find.....that's why TK is making custom parts but we don't know which one and the values required.... :(
you see, take a plastic bell and try to ring it ...urrrrgggg >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 06, 2013, 12:24:03 AM

Oh you guys. :-* Thanks guys. ;)

The one circuit that I had shown in the past i believe is OU x 2. ;)

The output is heat, as the load is resistive.

1 battery 12v
1 load resistor
1 cap value determined by switch time to charge through load
2 switches dc variety

Battery, normally open switch, cap and load all in series loop.
Close the switch and current flows through the resistor to charge the cap. You can try it in sim, when scoping power consumption of the battery(power supply) and the load, the power taken and the power used by the load are equal, and very well should be close in the real world with quality components as the load is the much larger resistance in the circuit other than the battery, which should be quite a bit lower.

Now use the second switch to dump the charged cap into the load and you will see that you got to use that energy 2 times compared to what we took from the source. ;) Try it, Its true. There may be other combinations possibly that we can extract or 'reuse' that energy further. At the time, I was more interested in charging batteries than producing more heat. Im in Florida dude. 8) And nobody really took much interest in it either. :'( I was soo suppressed, I mean depressed. lol

If one is looking to make heat from electricity for near half the cost then this should do. Its not totally 'free', but there is an over efficiency there from the norm.

I have to look back at it all, but when using a transformer as a load so as to try and loop and/or have extra left over, you know ;) , the good stuff, the voltage divisions between the cap and the transformer primary caused losses that were just stupid losses due to the divisions, not losses due to resistance heat losses. I couldnt crack that one for the time I worked on it. But it peaks my interest a bit while thinking of it today. Ive learned some things since then. Maybe Ill take another shot at it. Considering the resistive load seems clearly OU, there must be a way to translate that to other energies and hopefully get to take advantage of the extra without taking on more losses in the process. ;) There was also the interactions of the cap and primary when the secondary was loaded that caused issues if I remember correctly. Again, I have to look it up to see exactly what the issues were. I might not be representing them properly here. Ill find it. ;)

Its all here in one of these threads, and on my pc. Its simple. Give it a shot and tell me what you think about the resistive load circuit and if there is any value to it.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 06, 2013, 12:34:00 AM

Quote from: forest on April 05, 2013, 04:02:15 PM
:-\ stop complain like an old woman

but we don't know which one and the values required.... :(

you see, take a plastic bell and try to ring it ...urrrrgggg >:(

Who you calling an old woman?? ;D

"but we don't know which one and the values required" Nor do we know what circuit. Thats the big one. ;)

Plastics can ring. Just not as high and for as long as ridgid metals or glass.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 06, 2013, 12:44:10 AM

One more thing about the resistive load circuit. If the energy used by the resistive load is near equal to what was taken from the source, then how did we get the same amount of energy into the cap, which is 'also' near equal to what was taken from the source, if there is sooo much 'supposed losses' in the 'resistive' load? For the first cycle of the circuit we produced heat from the source and stored 'that same energy' into the cap. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 06, 2013, 12:53:45 AM

Over 1100 reads in 24 hours. :o ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 06, 2013, 04:37:53 AM

Resistance is like having a lot of small holes in pipe. The way to ovecome it is by having a high pressure sharp water pulse so water have no time to escape. What do you think about this idea ?
Sure,the better is not to have any resistance....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 06, 2013, 02:45:30 PM

Hmm, I just ran the circuit I described in sim and what I posted is wrong.
The peaks are the same, but the long term power is not. I have to find those files. looking right now. There was something back then that was interesting.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 07, 2013, 01:02:48 AM

Quote from: forest on April 06, 2013, 04:37:53 AM
Resistance is like having a lot of small holes in pipe. The way to ovecome it is by having a high pressure sharp water pulse so water have no time to escape. What do you think about this idea ?
Sure,the better is not to have any resistance....

Holes in the pipe.

Lets look at a simple circuit. A source and a resistor. We will compare 2 values of resistor, 1 ohm and 10 ohm.

With the 1 ohm we have 10 amps of current with a dissipation of 100 watts.

With the 10 ohm resistor we have 1 amp of current and a dissipation of 10 watts.

Voltage is pressure. Current is amount of electron flow.

If the resistor is like a pipe with a lot of holes in it, then that would mean that current flow on one side of the resistor is less than the other, no? But that isnt the case.

I think if one were to think of an analogy of electrical properties, air pressure is a better choice than liquid because air is compressible, and so is electrical charge.

In the case of the resistors above, the the higher the resistance value, current flow will be less as well the source will also be less strained with heavy output.

The resistor is like a valve or better yet a generic form of a pressure regulator.

Like my nitrous bottle in my Fiero can have 1000 psi or more when it is full and at temperature. The pressure is released by a solenoid valve the to a nozzle with a preset jet that you choose that provides the added HP level increase that you desire. I run a .065 which provides near 80 HP increase for my car. If I want less HP increase I get a smaller jet, with a smaller hole.

But as the bottle(source) with 10lb of NO is used and gradually is not able to produce 1000psi, the HP increase will be less also. Less pressure, less flow, less current. Just like the circuit above, if the source voltage is decreased, less current will flow through the resistor(jet) thus less power output in heat. So ideally a gas is a better analogy for electrical comparison. One can also consider atmospheric pressure as 0 volts where by one could simulate positive and negative pressures or +(pressure) and -(vacuum) of a source. All just for visualization purposes of simple pressures and current flows of course, as there are many electrical functions that would be difficult to emulate.

So we have to concede that the resistor is not losing electrons when current flows, it is just limiting the speed that they can flow. depending on the pressure of the source. Its like a loosely regulated power supply vs a fully regulated supply, where a loosely regulated power supplies output is not locked down to a particular voltage output. Its output can vary some when loaded or when there are differences in input voltage, more in more out.

This is where I have some conflict with heat losses as they are described.

It is shown that if we charge a cap from a source directly or through a resistance that the source delivered 2 times the amount of energy than what ends up in the fully charged cap. Did half of the number of electrons not make it back to the + side of the source than left the - side? Did less current flow on one side of the cap than the other? Did less current flow on one side of the resistor then the other?

If we charged the cap to full from a 10v source, through a resistor, to 10v, where was half of the energy from the source really lost and how if no electron left the circuit and 'less' current flows because of the resistor yet the cap is still brought to full charge, just not instantaneously, did energy leave the system via heat.? So what does that mean?

It is said that due to resistance if we have 2 caps same value, 1 is full say 10v, and the other empty, then we connect the 2 caps each will have 5v but we will have lost 1 half of the energy in the process.

So what would the voltage be in the 2 caps if resistance did not exist? 5v each from 10v?

So if I took 2 10lb tanks of NO and one is full and one is empty, and I connect them together so that eventually each has 5lb, did I lose half of the energy that was held in the full tank to begin with? Well you can be sure that neither tank will reach 1000lb of pressure at temperature, There is still just as much NO total in the 2 tanks as was in the full one, but pressure is way down. The same goes for the 2 caps. the total amount of electrons in the caps, whether less on one side of the cap than the other from being fully charged to equal amounts with no charge, when connected together, we dont lose any electrons, weve just moved them and lost pressure stupidly by letting the contained pressures of one full tank expand into a container of twice the size.

Its what I call stupid losses. We didnt do anything with the pressure while it was expanding to the other tank. We just let it depressurize. If we were to use that flow from one tank to the other via turbine, pump, we would be gathering that stupidly lost energy, and still get 5lb into each tank in the end. ;)

If there were no resistance, superconductive, and zero heat produced, would there be more electrons or charge in the caps after connecting because of no heat losses? No, there would not be. The pressures would level out and be half of what the first cap started with because we released that total pressure into a container twice as large.

It would be a superconducting super loss. ;)

Resistance losses in a circuit are due to voltage divisions across those resistances where the load we want to provide power to suffers from the drop because it is not getting the actual potential of the source. So we can say that oh we are not getting full power to the load because of voltage drops due to restrictions in the line of current. But in the case of full cap connected to an empty cap, I believe the losses would be the same whether there be resistance or not. 10v to 5v and 10lb to 5lb ;)

Now, if we use an inductor in the circuit and apply timing, we can stop the initially full cap at near 7v and use a freewheel diode with the inductor to get near 7v into the other cap.
How does that happen? There is still 'resistance' in the circuit, so called losses all over, but when we calculate the total energy in the 2 caps now with 7v each, we come real close to no loss at all. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on April 07, 2013, 03:10:52 AM

http://www.overunity.com/5975/stefan-and-newman-motor/msg142060/#msg142060
http://www.overunity.com/5975/stefan-and-newman-motor/msg142206/#msg142206
http://www.overunity.com/6421/real-working-free-energy-scheme-plug-n-play/msg146651/#msg146651
http://www.overunity.com/6421/real-working-free-energy-scheme-plug-n-play/msg146833/#msg146833
http://www.overunity.com/6421/real-working-free-energy-scheme-plug-n-play/msg146844/#msg146844
http://www.overunity.com/6421/real-working-free-energy-scheme-plug-n-play/msg147369/#msg147369
http://www.overunity.com/6421/real-working-free-energy-scheme-plug-n-play/msg148064/#msg148064
http://www.overunity.com/6734/real-ou-effect-to-share-with-everyone/msg160932/#msg160932

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 07, 2013, 04:53:16 AM

I'm sorry everyone
for i started the joke and started the whole world crying ;D

AND SOORRRY FOR THE TWO LADIES HERE FOR THEIR CONSERVATIVITY. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA

@mags
wow your so affected about that, so lots of words so lots of talk, for just a joke. ;D
you really like a SMELLY OLD WOMAN. FOREST IS RIGHT? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I WAS NOT!!!!!! WARNED FOR MAKING FIRE OK!!!!! ;D

@MRMAGS AM I GOING TO CALL YOU MS OR MR? ;D

OH YA THOSE ARE MY POST WHEN MY FIRST IMPRESSION HERE IS GOOD. GOT NOW?.

NOW, I SEE YOUR PROBLEM, SO ITS ABOUT THE CREDITS? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

I AM NOT INTERESTED WITH THE CREDITS OF EVERYONE. DID YOU GOT THAT SECOND OLD SMELLY WOMAN?.

NOW LADIES AND GENTLEMEN I NOW KNOW WHY THEY ARE ACTING LIKE THESE ABOUT THESE TWO OLD SMELLY WOMAN

"IT'S BECAUSE THEY WERE OF TO THE CREDITS" GOT YA ;) ;D ;D ;D

I THINK I WILL NOT GO DOWN TO THESE LEVELS OF PREMATURE OLD SMELLY WOMAN ANYMORE!!!
WASTING MY TIME WITH THESE PRETTY LADY ;D

SORRY I'M TAKEN!!!! ;D

TAKE A LOOK AT MAGS ATTACK, THEY REALLY WANT TO STEAL THE ATTENTION OF EVERYONE, THEY WANT EVERYBODY TO GIVE THANKS TO THEM. GOT YA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

SO YOU WANT THAT HA.
Thank you mags you're soooooo intelligent bright and kind. MAYABANG!!!! >:(
AND TO THE RIGHT HAND MAN MR OR MSMAGS YOUR SO LOYAL AND HONEST WOW. KAKAKILIG KA ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 07, 2013, 04:55:32 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 07, 2013, 05:25:20 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 06, 2013, 12:53:45 AM
Over 1100 reads in 24 hours. :o ;)

Mags

SEE, BECAUSE LOTS OF PEOPLE READING THIS THREAD, HE REALLY LIKES SHOWING HERE HA,
AND WANTS AN ATTENTION TO THEM HA. GOT YA ;) ;D

AT LEAST EVERYONE NOW KNOW YOU BWA HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHA ;D ;D ;D

THAT'S PETTY THIEF BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHA ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

MAGS IS KIND, INTELLIGENT AND GENIOUS ;D BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH LOL

I THINK YOUR NAME IS MUCH BETTER IF ITS CALLED "BOASTER MAN" ;D

AM I RIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN ;)

FROM NOW ON YOU ARE "BOASTER MAN OR BOOSTER MAN" ;D ;D ;D LOL

@STEFAN
SORRY SIR HE STARTED IT. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 07, 2013, 05:41:59 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 04, 2013, 10:38:01 PM
What 'exactly' should I be thankful for Tito? Give me a 'real good' example please. ;)

Stefan has already warned 'you' about this thread and where it is going. Not me. ;)

Mags

You should be thankful for tips i gave that you cannot solve in spite of your low brilliancy. ;D

Stefan should now warned you for fire starter. ;D

So that's your real reason ha! >:( YOU WANT ME OUT SO THAT YOU WILL TAKE THE CROWN, WHAT A WICKED SHAME BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :P

THAT'S WHY YOU WANT ME LOOK BAD TO EVERYONE AND SHOW YOURSELF VERY CLEAN. HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA. WHAT A CLEVER PLAN THAT I SOLVED. ;) 8) 8) 8) 8)

You fire cracker!!!!! >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 07, 2013, 06:02:29 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 06, 2013, 12:34:00 AM
Who you calling an old woman?? ;D

"but we don't know which one and the values required" Nor do we know what circuit. Thats the big one. ;)

Plastics can ring. Just not as high and for as long as ridgid metals or glass.

Mags

SEE,
ITS YOU!!!

YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE ACTING AS AN OLD WOMAN WITH YOUR KUMARE, WHO ELSE! >:( ;D

NO!!!, PLASTIC CAN RING IF IT IS IN YOUR FACE. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 07, 2013, 12:10:09 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 07, 2013, 05:41:59 AM

You should be thankful for tips i gave that you cannot solve in spite of your low brilliancy. ;D

Stefan should now warned you for fire starter. ;D

So that's your real reason ha! >:( YOU WANT ME OUT SO THAT YOU WILL TAKE THE CROWN, WHAT A WICKED SHAME BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :P

THAT'S WHY YOU WANT ME LOOK BAD TO EVERYONE AND SHOW YOURSELF VERY CLEAN. HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA. WHAT A CLEVER PLAN THAT I SOLVED. ;) 8) 8) 8) 8)

You fire cracker!!!!! >:( >:( >:(

::)

"You should be thankful for tips i gave that you cannot solve in spite of your low brilliancy."

Is that suppose to imply that our intelligence levels must be very low in order to figure out the tips? :P ;) Because that is what it says. lol

Im not here saying I have any secrets, like you do. :o ;)

"YOU WANT ME OUT SO THAT YOU WILL TAKE THE CROWN, WHAT A WICKED SHAME BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

Oh, there is a crown? You keep it. Youve earned it. ::) ;) I didnt know there was a crown. But you must have had it on this whole time, as you feel threatened that someone might take it. lol :P ;)

"THAT'S WHY YOU WANT ME LOOK BAD TO EVERYONE AND SHOW YOURSELF VERY CLEAN. HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA. WHAT A CLEVER PLAN THAT I SOLVED."

No Tito, you are wrong there. You do it to yourself with every post. I have just as much right to comment as you do. :P ;) Who do you think you are fooling here? I point out that the reads are many because these people are looking to see what 'you' say, not me. Many are stuck on your broken 'promises', as shown in those links of your posts. What a shame. Im just making the point that you never planned to let anyone get the secret, and 'what a clever plan that I solved'. :P ;D And you admitted it the other day. lol :o ;)
I used my low brilliancy, as it took me a while to really figure it out. But now the cats out of the bag. :P ;)

"HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA. WHAT A CLEVER PLAN THAT I SOLVED."

Yeah, real genius. ::) ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 07, 2013, 12:53:24 PM

Sometimes when we cannot find a solution we have to again investigate what is the "pain in ass" because maybe we have thrown solution out of context and our current problem is in fact the way to solve more important problem....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 08, 2013, 07:29:44 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 07, 2013, 12:10:09 PM
::)

"You should be thankful for tips i gave that you cannot solve in spite of your low brilliancy."

Is that suppose to imply that our intelligence levels must be very low in order to figure out the tips? :P ;) Because that is what it says. lol

Im not here saying I have any secrets, like you do. :o ;)

"YOU WANT ME OUT SO THAT YOU WILL TAKE THE CROWN, WHAT A WICKED SHAME BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

Oh, there is a crown? You keep it. Youve earned it. ::) ;) I didnt know there was a crown. But you must have had it on this whole time, as you feel threatened that someone might take it. lol :P ;)

"THAT'S WHY YOU WANT ME LOOK BAD TO EVERYONE AND SHOW YOURSELF VERY CLEAN. HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA. WHAT A CLEVER PLAN THAT I SOLVED."

No Tito, you are wrong there. You do it to yourself with every post. I have just as much right to comment as you do. :P ;) Who do you think you are fooling here? I point out that the reads are many because these people are looking to see what 'you' say, not me. Many are stuck on your broken 'promises', as shown in those links of your posts. What a shame. Im just making the point that you never planned to let anyone get the secret, and 'what a clever plan that I solved'. :P ;D And you admitted it the other day. lol :o ;)
I used my low brilliancy, as it took me a while to really figure it out. But now the cats out of the bag. :P ;)

"HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA. WHAT A CLEVER PLAN THAT I SOLVED."

Yeah, real genius. ::) ;)

Mags

No more allibys mags, you're guilty!!! >:(

You're just riding with the popularity of my thread to show to many that you are the hero. bwahahahhhahahahhahahhahaha ;D lol

And i believe ladies and gentlemen that there is hidden agenda there,

and he has a plan to use that heroism technique in right time believe me, hahahahahhahaha lol ;D ;D ;D ;D

always monitoring the reads ha, then pop up instantly discussing not working circuit. hahahahhahahhahah lol ;D ;D ;D ;D

bulse eye! 8)

poinnnnkk! :o :P

What?! i'm making myself bad? i'm just making joke and suddenly you pop up and saying bad conclusion every time! >:( You !@#$!@#%!@#$%!@#$@!#$@#!$!@#$ >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

figured it out wowwwwwsssss :D

i am not anymore answer those things you said, surely i have answer to all of those, i'm just lazy to answer for non sense.

you cannot anymore fool anyone here old smelly woman! lol
babooo

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 08, 2013, 07:45:30 AM

Quote from: forest on April 07, 2013, 12:53:24 PM
Sometimes when we cannot find a solution we have to again investigate what is the "pain in ass" because maybe we have thrown solution out of context and our current problem is in fact the way to solve more important problem....

ya you're right buddy, i salute you there.

But many time there are smelly old woman that hinders for a builded solution. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on April 08, 2013, 09:00:49 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 08, 2013, 07:45:30 AM

ya you're right buddy, i salute you there.

But many time there are smelly old woman that hinders for a builded solution. ;D

Just to refresh our memories:
http://www.overunity.com/6421/real-working-free-energy-scheme-plug-n-play/msg146651/#msg146651 (http://www.overunity.com/6421/real-working-free-energy-scheme-plug-n-play/msg146651/#msg146651)

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 29, 2008, 03:58:25 AM
Please share any real working schemATIC, techniques, videos, pictures here.

EVERYBODY IS WELCOME!!!

Discussion is good but working device is what we need ;)

Beneficiary => everyone, earth.

I believe this is the purpose of this forum is to share real working device.

God Bless,
otit

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 30, 2008, 01:52:10 AM
This is an invitation to every body to include your free energy device in a purpose of eliminating scam, fakes free energy device by
the comment of our geniouses in the forum so that everyone will benefit. pleassssse... help our children our mother earth. :)

continuation......

otit

Read it all; only 20 replies, including the crowned one's.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 08, 2013, 09:40:56 AM

:-) thrown away is the real magic

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 08, 2013, 01:01:08 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 08, 2013, 07:29:44 AM

No more allibys mags, you're guilty!!! >:(

You're just riding with the popularity of my thread to show to many that you are the hero. bwahahahhhahahahhahahhahaha ;D lol

And i believe ladies and gentlemen that there is hidden agenda there,

and he has a plan to use that heroism technique in right time believe me, hahahahahhahaha lol ;D ;D ;D ;D

always monitoring the reads ha, then pop up instantly discussing not working circuit. hahahahhahahhahah lol ;D ;D ;D ;D

bulse eye! 8)

poinnnnkk! :o :P

What?! i'm making myself bad? i'm just making joke and suddenly you pop up and saying bad conclusion every time! >:( You !@#$!@#%!@#$%!@#$@!#$@#!$!@#$ >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

figured it out wowwwwwsssss :D

i am not anymore answer those things you said, surely i have answer to all of those, i'm just lazy to answer for non sense.

you cannot anymore fool anyone here old smelly woman! lol
babooo

You are just plain old paranoid dude. You have shown it in the past. You claimed that people were 'tracking' you. You claim that I am stealing from you. Exactly what have I stolen from you? Half baked tips that you have 'given'???? lol

Im not going to point anything out any further. Unless I need to rebut a sleezy comment from you. ;)

Just keep your imaginary crown on your head. You can call me anything you like, whether it be smelly old woman, or a thief. Its in your character to do so. ;) Until you show proof of either, all the readers know better. :o ;) You have made many promises and continually claim you have more than 1 way to make FE. The readers know. And you still have not come through with either of them. :P ;) And thats some truth for you, bud. ;)

What good is it to tell people that you have it, if you wont 'really' help them replicate?? Why say it at all? To make people work on your puzzle?? Attention?? So far the majority here believes in the latter. Its written here in this thread many times. ;)

If you had never said that you had FE devices that worked, we would not be talking to each other like this right now or ever. But you keep on putting forth that you do have them, teasing all who read. You did that. And you laugh at us like we are nothing.

Keep up the good works. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 08, 2013, 06:23:18 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 08, 2013, 01:01:08 PM
You are just plain old paranoid dude. You have shown it in the past. You claimed that people were 'tracking' you. You claim that I am stealing from you. Exactly what have I stolen from you? Half baked tips that you have 'given' ??? ? lol

Im not going to point anything out any further. Unless I need to rebut a sleezy comment from you. ;)

Just keep your imaginary crown on your head. You can call me anything you like, whether it be smelly old woman, or a thief. Its in your character to do so. ;) Until you show proof of either, all the readers know better. :o ;) You have made many promises and continually claim you have more than 1 way to make FE. The readers know. And you still have not come through with either of them. :P ;) And thats some truth for you, bud. ;)

What good is it to tell people that you have it, if you wont 'really' help them replicate?? Why say it at all? To make people work on your puzzle?? Attention?? So far the majority here believes in the latter. Its written here in this thread many times. ;)

If you had never said that you had FE devices that worked, we would not be talking to each other like this right now or ever. But you keep on putting forth that you do have them, teasing all who read. You did that. And you laugh at us like we are nothing.

Keep up the good works. ;)

Mags

i will answer them briefly cause my nose is already bleeding. ;D

First of all you already know that i caught you from your plan for just of your hints ok? and guilty, and that is my talent solving secrets, and tesla's writings for me are just hints and i have sensed and solved what he meant and I am not lying to that. ;)

Now, its up to you know how much did you stole from me, the stealing of getting the attention of others and showing that your are the great one, well that is just one and there are lots more ;D and some always forward electricity. 8)

And you just become mad at me just because of jelousy and i did not please what you want. correct? ;D

i'm telling people that i have it just to give them hope that free energy is really a reality and give them hint to pursue and continue to experiment not just copying or just making lazy replication as what you propose. :P

many are being fooled co'z it's really easy to make black into white and since english is your language, it is easy for you to do it, and i'm having difficulty explaining many things and you know it. but at least i'm fighting as long as i can. ;D

calling you an old woman because you acted as that, i just added smelly cause my nose is sensitive, even forest notice it ok. ;D

Well, if i did not said i have an FE, and my hints are not in order to what i said, then you can call it a lie.

Teasing again? oh boys i'm tired of explaining this. that's my way of teaching not teasing ok?!! >:(

NO! i just laugh at you, and willballs. ;D

Well, for the last time, we can still be friends buddy, co'z i'm a friendly guy even you always make me bad to others and always start fires

I still consider you as my first best friend here you know.

and i'm sorry if i hurt you co'z you hurt me too.

And what will i'm going to say now?

YOU KEEP THE GOOD OR BAD WORKS? YOU JUST CHOOSE ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 08, 2013, 06:31:34 PM

Quote from: Qwert on April 08, 2013, 09:00:49 AM
Just to refresh our memories:
http://www.overunity.com/6421/real-working-free-energy-scheme-plug-n-play/msg146651/#msg146651 (http://www.overunity.com/6421/real-working-free-energy-scheme-plug-n-play/msg146651/#msg146651)

Read it all; only 20 replies, including the crowned one's.

so what's your point?

Everything change in me as i always said that because my expectation in my first impression here is very good but not anymore the same as that now . did you get what i mean? or i will say it again. ;D

You know what this is my point of changing because i began to disappointed when there were no post because of greedy that i felt from everyone! :(

And you know what i see in this forum?

This place is a place of many greedy people, well i admit that i become one of them but at least i give hints for my conscience. ;D
co'z i learned a lot here and i appreciate that.

but we are all learner here but just different in perspective.
and we have difference in absorption of info. i think.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 08, 2013, 08:08:47 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 08, 2013, 06:23:18 PM

i will answer them briefly cause my nose is already bleeding. ;D

First of all you already know that i caught you from your plan for just of your hints ok? and guilty, and that is my talent solving secrets, and tesla's writings for me are just hints and i have sensed and solved what he meant and I am not lying to that. ;)

Now, its up to you know how much did you stole from me, the stealing of getting the attention of others and showing that your are the great one, well that is just one and there are lots more ;D and some always forward electricity. 8)

And you just become mad at me just because of jelousy and i did not please what you want. correct? ;D

i'm telling people that i have it just to give them hope that free energy is really a reality and give them hint to pursue and continue to experiment not just copying or just making lazy replication as what you propose. :P

many are being fooled co'z it's really easy to make black into white and since english is your language, it is easy for you to do it, and i'm having difficulty explaining many things and you know it. but at least i'm fighting as long as i can. ;D

calling you an old woman because you acted as that, i just added smelly cause my nose is sensitive, even forest notice it ok. ;D

Well, if i did not said i have an FE, and my hints are not in order to what i said, then you can call it a lie.

Teasing again? oh boys i'm tired of explaining this. that's my way of teaching not teasing ok?!! >:(

NO! i just laugh at you, and willballs. ;D

and i'm sorry if i hurt you co'z you hurt me too.

And what will i'm going to say now?

YOU KEEP THE GOOD OR BAD WORKS? YOU JUST CHOOSE ;D

"my nose is already bleeding." What does that mean? You have said it a couple times. Is it really bleeding? :-\

"First of all you already know that i caught you from your plan for just of your hints ok? and guilty, and that is my talent solving secrets"

Are you saying you dont want to tell everyone here the 'facts' of my plan you have solved because 'they' might know the secrets if you do??? ;) lol Or maybe if you do, I might then know the secrets? :o ;) Because you are not sure??? ;) ;) ;) :-* Or, there are no secrets at all. :P

"Now, its up to you know how much did you stole from me, the stealing of getting the attention of others and showing that your are the great one"

Oh, so its the readers I am stealing now?? I dont think I am that great. ??? I just the other day said I had a possible 2 for 1 simple circuit from a while back, but I was wrong in my memory of it and I admitted it as soon as I checked myself. Either way I wrecked myself there. :o :o But at least Im honest. Show me where I lied. ;) Anywhere. :P

Show me that I have stolen from you. >:( If you are going to convict me of it then show these good people what I have 'stolen' from you. ;) Because if you dont, then should they believe you anyways?????? Think about that. :o

"well that is just one and there are lots more "

More speculation, zero facts. ;)

"And you just become mad at me just because of jelousy and i did not please what you want. correct? "

No, not correct. I have stated in the previous pages why I get upset here. Its you popping up once in a great while and throwing out some very vague hint or clue, then others come like Bob, Toto and Forest and they start talking about it. Then you go away with these guys just hanging and it just dies out til you pop in again. Nobody ever gets to the end of the maze. Thats because the maze is designed that way with an infinite path and never an ending. Along with many turns along the way. Some here are just diehards and will possibly follow you as long as possible, until they figure out what you said the other day. Thanks for saying it. Some of us can get on with our lives now. ;)

Were tired of it and we dont want anyone else to get involved in it because it is no good for anyone. Now thats correct. ;) But you wouldnt understand that would you?? ;)

"i'm telling people that i have it just to give them hope that free energy is really a reality and give them hint to pursue and continue to experiment not just copying or just making lazy replication as what you propose."

You gave them hope alright. And you keep on giving it.
Many people have done a lot of things. But with you its always, "YES, but with a little change, twist or" what ever.
So tell me, how many people do you know that have devices that work, that they built on what you told them to do?? It should be easy for you to say, because of course you will not provide any proofs of them. Like always. Just speculation. There is no hope in speculation. Its ALL questionable, from day one. ALL. Do you understand that???

Nobody here even knows if you have built anything at all. How could they. Just because you say it is so?? ;)

"many are being fooled co'z it's really easy to make black into white and since english is your language, it is easy for you to do it, and i'm having difficulty explaining many things and you know it. but at least i'm fighting as long as i can"

Im not fooling anyone. ;)

"calling you an old woman because you acted as that, i just added smelly cause my nose is sensitive, even forest notice it ok."

Geez, thanks again. ::)

"Well, if i did not said i have an FE, and my hints are not in order to what i said, then you can call it a lie."

???

We can be friendly. But the definition of a friend is that they care about each other. They 'answer' each others questions, not just disappear for indeterminate amounts of time. A girl wouldnt take that for long and friends get the picture sooner or later. ;) Nor the electric company. :o They dont take no crap. They just shut you down if you dont respond to a shut off notice. They say, are you gunna pay? No answer? Snip. Night night. Then you live in a cave till it is paid. lol Do you know what I mean? ???

You have friends here. Do you not see some falling away? Its not because of what I say.
And if I say it, Im just warning some that may be new here that they will be here a LONG time and for what? Do you understand me here? Im doing them a BIG favor. Dont waste your life here. There are many many many better things to do than chase the bits and parts of something that will never get accomplished. Is that unfair of me? ;)

But you can do as you do. I cant change you. But I can help people from getting stuck in this pit that is hard to see the light at the end. Very.

Is there ever going to be light at the end? Really?
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on April 08, 2013, 11:58:46 PM

What is the best way to change a stubborn ignorant?
Answer: to ignore him!! I do it from now, on; anyway, I'm sure nobody will cry of this my decision, Tito - the least. But, if everyone do it...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 09, 2013, 06:32:04 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 08, 2013, 08:08:47 PM
"my nose is already bleeding." What does that mean? You have said it a couple times. Is it really bleeding? :-\

"First of all you already know that i caught you from your plan for just of your hints ok? and guilty, and that is my talent solving secrets"

Are you saying you dont want to tell everyone here the 'facts' of my plan you have solved because 'they' might know the secrets if you do??? ;) lol Or maybe if you do, I might then know the secrets? :o ;) Because you are not sure??? ;) ;) ;) :-* Or, there are no secrets at all. :P

"Now, its up to you know how much did you stole from me, the stealing of getting the attention of others and showing that your are the great one"

Oh, so its the readers I am stealing now?? I dont think I am that great. ??? I just the other day said I had a possible 2 for 1 simple circuit from a while back, but I was wrong in my memory of it and I admitted it as soon as I checked myself. Either way I wrecked myself there. :o :o But at least Im honest. Show me where I lied. ;) Anywhere. :P

Show me that I have stolen from you. >:( If you are going to convict me of it then show these good people what I have 'stolen' from you. ;) Because if you dont, then should they believe you anyways? ??? ?? Think about that. :o

"well that is just one and there are lots more "

More speculation, zero facts. ;)

"And you just become mad at me just because of jelousy and i did not please what you want. correct? "

No, not correct. I have stated in the previous pages why I get upset here. Its you popping up once in a great while and throwing out some very vague hint or clue, then others come like Bob, Toto and Forest and they start talking about it. Then you go away with these guys just hanging and it just dies out til you pop in again. Nobody ever gets to the end of the maze. Thats because the maze is designed that way with an infinite path and never an ending. Along with many turns along the way. Some here are just diehards and will possibly follow you as long as possible, until they figure out what you said the other day. Thanks for saying it. Some of us can get on with our lives now. ;)

Were tired of it and we dont want anyone else to get involved in it because it is no good for anyone. Now thats correct. ;) But you wouldnt understand that would you?? ;)

"i'm telling people that i have it just to give them hope that free energy is really a reality and give them hint to pursue and continue to experiment not just copying or just making lazy replication as what you propose."

You gave them hope alright. And you keep on giving it.
Many people have done a lot of things. But with you its always, "YES, but with a little change, twist or" what ever.
So tell me, how many people do you know that have devices that work, that they built on what you told them to do?? It should be easy for you to say, because of course you will not provide any proofs of them. Like always. Just speculation. There is no hope in speculation. Its ALL questionable, from day one. ALL. Do you understand that???

Nobody here even knows if you have built anything at all. How could they. Just because you say it is so?? ;)

"many are being fooled co'z it's really easy to make black into white and since english is your language, it is easy for you to do it, and i'm having difficulty explaining many things and you know it. but at least i'm fighting as long as i can"

Im not fooling anyone. ;)

"calling you an old woman because you acted as that, i just added smelly cause my nose is sensitive, even forest notice it ok."

Geez, thanks again. ::)

"Well, if i did not said i have an FE, and my hints are not in order to what i said, then you can call it a lie."

???

We can be friendly. But the definition of a friend is that they care about each other. They 'answer' each others questions, not just disappear for indeterminate amounts of time. A girl wouldnt take that for long and friends get the picture sooner or later. ;) Nor the electric company. :o They dont take no crap. They just shut you down if you dont respond to a shut off notice. They say, are you gunna pay? No answer? Snip. Night night. Then you live in a cave till it is paid. lol Do you know what I mean? ???

You have friends here. Do you not see some falling away? Its not because of what I say.
And if I say it, Im just warning some that may be new here that they will be here a LONG time and for what? Do you understand me here? Im doing them a BIG favor. Dont waste your life here. There are many many many better things to do than chase the bits and parts of something that will never get accomplished. Is that unfair of me? ;)

But you can do as you do. I cant change you. But I can help people from getting stuck in this pit that is hard to see the light at the end. Very.

Is there ever going to be light at the end? Really?
Mags

oh gussssshhhhhhhh abelgas pulgas That's tooooooo long to answer.

my nose is bleeding = i'm running out of English knowledge. ;D

oh i can't or i don't want to answer anymore for that long nonesence and endless discussion.
ok whatever you want its all yours now.
it's a waste of time.

i'll stop now. just leave it all to God, WOW YOU WON!!!! ;D

I WAS ABOUT TO EXPLAIN THE HAARP BUT NOW I'M LAZY AND CHANGE MY MIND, ITS NOT WORTH

THE DESIGNER IS JUST ONE FOR FREE ENERGY AND HAARP, THEY HAVE REALLY BIG SIMILARITIES.

THAT'S IT BABOOOOOOOOO :o ;D

JUST WAIT LONGER FOR MY VIDEO OK. I'LL SHOW IT ;)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 09, 2013, 06:34:26 PM

Quote from: Qwert on April 08, 2013, 11:58:46 PM
What is the best way to change a stubborn ignorant?
Answer: to ignore him!! I do it from now, on; anyway, I'm sure nobody will cry of this my decision, Tito - the least. But, if everyone do it...

OH BUDDY NOBODY OBLADY OBLADA ;D

I'M OUT A HERE :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 09, 2013, 06:39:36 PM

I think that's all

i'm tired of these endless quarreling discussion. That's a stress in me.

Well, what ever.

To Sir stefan

Thank you sir for your accomodation of me. :)

sorry everyone that's my way

and did it myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :-*
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on April 10, 2013, 03:09:23 AM

I'm definitely sure Tito's ideas, inventions on this thread, in fact are NOT his, they are somebody's else. And that is the real reason he was so reluctant to disclose this secret: read the book "Quest For Zero Point Energy" by Moray B. King. All those Tito's secrets are mostly in the chapter titled "The Super Tube." I'm just copying that chapter and I plan to upload it as soon as I complete it; maybe tomorrow.

If somebody needs the book, I'll send it in pdf format by email, of which my address can be found on my PROFILE; the book is only about 8MB: too much to upload here, still good for email.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 10, 2013, 08:27:51 AM

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/doc/Quest%20For%20Zero%20Point%20Energy.pdf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 10, 2013, 11:14:18 PM

One thing in the book that Quert and Dave presented is that it shows this circuit 3 times.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 10, 2013, 11:20:38 PM

Tito said charge caps in series and discharge in parallel. ;) Like that? ;) Looks like thats what this does. Like the reverse of a doubler or multiplier. So this is a step down.

Oh that Tito. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 10, 2013, 11:29:08 PM

And he said to charge the caps with an inductor, I suppose rather than with a cap, so charge an inductor from a source, then let the collapse spike charge the series caps.

Normally if I were told that this gives us ou, I might negate it due to knowing that the step down device will lower voltage and raise current, but my question would be is why is it better than other methods of stepping down a voltage and increasing current?

Will have to try it. It is new to me and simple enough and all things needed can be had at Radioshack. Ive got most all I need here already.

Oh that Tito. lol

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 11, 2013, 04:03:50 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 10, 2013, 11:14:18 PM
One thing in the book that Quert and Dave presented is that it shows this circuit 3 times.

Mags

No!, this is not the way okay! >:(

It's the radiant receiver of tesla and moray, Radiant energy transmitter and receiver is the perfection of alternating current. That is the climax of tesla in alternating current ok?! >:(

And i am really showing that way to all of you guys, go mad at me but that is the real way ok! >:(

magnets are optional but really can amplify but if there is no magnet we can do it normally ok. no chemicals added!. :)

THINK ABOUT THIS, "WHEN TESLA PROPOSING THIS MAGNIFYING TRANSMITTER TO MORGAN, EVERYTHING STOPS THERE IN AC." DID YOU NOT NOTICE THAT? That is where the biggest suppression to tesla ok. stopping the support and destroying it.
Magnifying transmitter is the fulfilled dream of tesla ok. AND THE SECRET IS REALLY IN THE RECEIVER. RADIUM IS GOOD BUT IT WILL KILL ALL PERSON IN THE VICINITY EVEN YOU IF YOU ARE NOT INSULATED.

FULFILLED BECAUSE ITS ALREADY WORKING IN HIS MIND. DO YOU THINK TESLA WILL BUILD THAT AND SPEND LOTS OF MONEY JUST FOR NOTHING?

THINK, THINK, THINK LIKE TINKER BELL ;D

NOW!, I ALWAYS SAY TO THIS!!! THAT IS THE REAL WAY OK. >:(

That thing circuit above is not a good idea ok.
well, it act like an equilibrium but its not a good one believe me ;) low gain together again. ;D

JUST IMAGINE HOW TESLA VALUED THE CAPS.
YOU CAN NOW DO THE GUESS ;D

That 's it Goodbye EVERYONE. >:( :) ;) :-* :P

oh i'm that tito me ;D

@MAGS ONE MORE THING
YOU ALWAYS WANT ME TO TALK AND TALK ;D ;) :P

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 11, 2013, 04:29:10 AM

Quote from: Qwert on April 10, 2013, 03:09:23 AM
I'm definitely sure Tito's ideas, inventions on this thread, in fact are NOT his, they are somebody's else. And that is the real reason he was so reluctant to disclose this secret: read the book "Quest For Zero Point Energy" by Moray B. King. All those Tito's secrets are mostly in the chapter titled "The Super Tube." I'm just copying that chapter and I plan to upload it as soon as I complete it; maybe tomorrow.

If somebody needs the book, I'll send it in pdf format by email, of which my address can be found on my PROFILE; the book is only about 8MB: too much to upload here, still good for email.

i'ved told you already we are all learners here and there's a lot of good info in this internet and ived love reading all of those and formulate mine

and since that is mine then that's mine ok. what i got here in the internet even to tesla ARE JUST HINTS OK SO THEREFORE THE PRODUCT OF MY HARDWORK'S SUCCESS IS MINE OK.? UNDERSTOOD? ;)

ANU KAYO SINISWERTI? ;D

LOL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 11, 2013, 04:32:52 AM

NOW EVERYTHING IS NEUTRAL.

CAUSE I PRISON THE CATS. ;D

OH THAT OLD WOMAN ;D LOL JOKE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 11, 2013, 05:35:20 AM

OH THAT REALLY WOMAN IS OLD ;D JOKE

FEEL WHAT YOU DID FEEL AND YOU CAN KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DONE SAYING THAT ONE LINE "OH THAT TITO LOL" ;)

DID YOU FEEL THAT WOMAN? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 11, 2013, 05:40:48 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 10, 2013, 11:14:18 PM
One thing in the book that Quert and Dave presented is that it shows this circuit 3 times.

Mags

OH, YA THEY ARE REALLY THE FIRST ONE PRESENTED IT. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on April 11, 2013, 04:06:44 PM

Here is the EDITABLE document I promised earlier, "The Super Tube" - chapter derived from the book "Quest for Zero Point Energy" by Moray B. King

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 11, 2013, 10:24:47 PM

I have a question: Supposing you have --
2 perpendicular coils:
- a parallel-wound bifilar coil, coiled in a ring (like the TPU) with a cap across one end (i.e., joining two parallel ends);
- a similar parallel bifilar coil with cap across one end (as above) wound perpendicular to the ring in a short (say 1 inch wide) section.

Suppose you pulse the larger winding - we should get a ringing, then the perpendicular winding with cap will also ring, will it not?

How do we help the ringing continue?
Does the answer lie in a Lenzless arrangement?
Does the answer lie in a continuous small pulse involving a 555 timer chip or JT type setup using a transistor?

Do we perhaps need a third coil to pick up the ringing in the first two, perhaps with its own parallel-charged caps discharging in series?

So many questions. Work is crazy right now and I can't get near my bench, so for now, I'll try to reason this out and ask questions.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 11, 2013, 11:37:52 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on April 11, 2013, 10:24:47 PM

How do we help the ringing continue?
Does the answer lie in a Lenzless arrangement?
Does the answer lie in a continuous small pulse involving a 555 timer chip or JT type setup using a transistor?

Exactly. How do we take energy from the ring without killing it. That would be key.

Or even better than lenzless, an arrangement that is one step further and once the ring has begun it builds upon itself and we take from it once it gets large enough. That would be key also.'

Either way would work. The self building config would be maybe a bit dangerous if safety measures are not put into place and of quality build and components. And if there is such a beast, would it not possibly start ringing and building by itself if excited just a lil bit? :o ;) Dunno, but it would be incredible to experience. ;D

I have tried a lot of things and havnt been able to do either. Yet.

There must be a combination of coils whether they be bifi or not that can get us to this result.

Back when Romero was running the Muller gen, one of the things I always wondered about his coils, was whether they were bifi or not.He did say that capacitance needed to be increased in the coil, where bifi seems like the only solution.

He supposedly used 7 strand litz. I had thoughts that he actually divided the individual strands and used half for 1 winding of the bifi and the others for the other winding, of which would be 3 strands and 4 strands if it were 7 strand litz. He said it was a tremendous amount of work in tuning the coils. If one was to do this, you would have to separate the strands at each end, clean of the enamel of each strand end, identify each strand end to end, then measure the capacitances between mixes of different strand combinations the get equal tuning for each coil bobbin.

Picture the cross sectional view of 7 strand litz. (I would get an even strand no. if available) Lets just imagine 1 center strand and 6 outer. If we chose every other outer strand to be one winding combo, there should be more capacitance than if we just had 3 adjacent to each other on one side and the other 3, adjacent to each other to have less if one measured the 2 windings for capacitance. Then just add the middle one to either of the windings, just because it is there. ;D

This was the only solution I could come up with that might have taken so long to tune, and seems realistic in theory. The capacitance by doing it with the individual strands will be way more than just using 2 litz wires wound together to make a bifi. And maybe thats why others couldnt get the same results because they could not accumulate enough capacitance to get the coils to ring at the low freq that Romero had gotten. ;)

Lol, I tried to achieve lenzless effects with a large many turn coil, not bifi, and instead of getting speedup, I got rpm lock, where once reached, more and more power did not break the lock. So possibly a bifi would act differently. And my coil was way big where capacitance would be very low in comparison to a Romero coil size in bifi, but my freq of operation was much lower also due to the high inductance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNCF7uQzwzM

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 11, 2013, 11:44:48 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 11, 2013, 11:37:52 PM
Then just add the middle one to either of the windings, just because it is there. ;D

Hmmm, maybe 6 on the outside, 3 for 1 winding, 3 for the other, and the middle one, no. 7, maybe its shorted. :o Just thought of that while rereading my post.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 12, 2013, 03:22:51 AM

Mags, Bob you are right...somewhere like 2 steps behind ou :P I'm one step behind due to lack of electronic knowledge... >:( I wish Mr Aviso would help me :-[ Ring a bell twice ::)
btw do you think that al those ears are loading all audio amplifiers during concert ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 12, 2013, 08:07:53 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 11, 2013, 11:37:52 PM
Exactly. How do we take energy from the ring without killing it. That would be key.

Or even better than lenzless, an arrangement that is one step further and once the ring has begun it builds upon itself and we take from it once it gets large enough. That would be key also.'

Either way would work. The self building config would be maybe a bit dangerous if safety measures are not put into place and of quality build and components. And if there is such a beast, would it not possibly start ringing and building by itself if excited just a lil bit? :o ;) Dunno, but it would be incredible to experience. ;D

I have tried a lot of things and havnt been able to do either. Yet.

There must be a combination of coils whether they be bifi or not that can get us to this result.

Back when Romero was running the Muller gen, one of the things I always wondered about his coils, was whether they were bifi or not.He did say that capacitance needed to be increased in the coil, where bifi seems like the only solution.

He supposedly used 7 strand litz. I had thoughts that he actually divided the individual strands and used half for 1 winding of the bifi and the others for the other winding, of which would be 3 strands and 4 strands if it were 7 strand litz. He said it was a tremendous amount of work in tuning the coils. If one was to do this, you would have to separate the strands at each end, clean of the enamel of each strand end, identify each strand end to end, then measure the capacitances between mixes of different strand combinations the get equal tuning for each coil bobbin.

Picture the cross sectional view of 7 strand litz. (I would get an even strand no. if available) Lets just imagine 1 center strand and 6 outer. If we chose every other outer strand to be one winding combo, there should be more capacitance than if we just had 3 adjacent to each other on one side and the other 3, adjacent to each other to have less if one measured the 2 windings for capacitance. Then just add the middle one to either of the windings, just because it is there. ;D

This was the only solution I could come up with that might have taken so long to tune, and seems realistic in theory. The capacitance by doing it with the individual strands will be way more than just using 2 litz wires wound together to make a bifi. And maybe thats why others couldnt get the same results because they could not accumulate enough capacitance to get the coils to ring at the low freq that Romero had gotten. ;)

Lol, I tried to achieve lenzless effects with a large many turn coil, not bifi, and instead of getting speedup, I got rpm lock, where once reached, more and more power did not break the lock. So possibly a bifi would act differently. And my coil was way big where capacitance would be very low in comparison to a Romero coil size in bifi, but my freq of operation was much lower also due to the high inductance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNCF7uQzwzM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNCF7uQzwzM)

Mags

Hey Mags
I woke up last night thinking about this. I think your keying-in on Romero's call for capacitance is bang-on. I kept thinking about the same thing - that the bifi coils should actually be series-wound (not parallel-wound). This is just like Tesla's series-wound pancake coil (end of one strand connected to beginning of other). We know that the pancake coil, wound such, has very high capacitance, due to the mutual cancelling of magnetic fields by both strands.

Jacknoskills was working with single-stranded caduceus coils on a toroid, with a cap. He claimed they were oscillating at low voltage quite easily. The caduceus winding does basically the same thing as the series-wound bifi, as I understand it:
http://www.overunity.com/13265/is-this-the-smithkapanadze-secret/ (http://www.overunity.com/13265/is-this-the-smithkapanadze-secret/)

So with this in mind, I need to update here my earlier comments. I really believe the series bifi winding is the way to go (possibly with a cap). This might not be necessary for the primary, secondary and pickup - that's something maybe we can figure out.

But think back to the TMT. You have a primary, resonant secondary and pickup, I think. If you are using pancake-style bifi wound coils (serial wound) for your primary and secondary, you should be able to get them into oscillation at fairly low voltage, according to jacknoskills' findings. Because they are wound to cancel out their own mag fields, they will be producing scalar impulses, and if we look at the way Tesla describes the bifi pancake coil in his patent for it (can't find reference right now), the voltage is decently high.

If we are dealing with scalar vectors, then I believe we can circumvent the Lenz problem. Perhaps the pickup coil should also be identical to the primary and secondary, to pickup the scalar energy as well. I guess that's something that can be figured out with a little experimenting.

Thanks for the helpful comments, Forest.
GTG - getting pounded by snow right now, getting ready for work.
Bob

Edit: I think there's still room in this config for perpendicular coil(s). Perhaps the resonant secondary? Gotta think this thru.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 12, 2013, 11:23:55 AM

in my trifilar coil
shorting the coil produced a drag that stops the rotor
shorting with a cap the 3rd coil increase speed
and output voltage from 3 to 9 v ac
combining 2nd and 3rd coil
increase input current from 200 to 400 ma more torque in parallel
in series same torque but need time to start up ye circuit unlike in parallel connection
totoalas lenze ( less???) motor yt
N S N S 8 inches rotor hd magnet

http://www.overunity.com/11350/confirming-the-delayed-lenz-effect/msg356745/#msg356745 (http://www.overunity.com/11350/confirming-the-delayed-lenz-effect/msg356745/#msg356745)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 12, 2013, 10:32:21 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on April 12, 2013, 08:07:53 AM

Hey Mags
I woke up last night thinking about this. I think your keying-in on Romero's call for capacitance is bang-on.

Hey Bob

Well I certainly hope so. lol Just kidding

What really interested me is the functional cause of the speedup. I wrote quite a bit of what I thought back then. Still pretty fresh. It must have been the coil going into, or close to resonance in order for phasing to change from having lenz to having less. I dont believe it was that the coils inductance was just not accepting the induced freq of the magnet passes, like a low pass crossover coil in audio, because that would definitely lower the output, not improve upon it.

I believe Romero used 300 turns. With just a rod core and a backing magnet, I just could not see resonance happening at the freq that the coils were being passed by the magnets if they were just single filar coils. And the freq is even higher than just counting the magnet passes. The frequency is a measure of when the magnet approaches and the coil peaks at one polarity, then as the magnet is leaving the coil, there is a peak in the other polarity. The freq is the measure between those 2 peaks. If we remember the scope shots, there is considerable space between the cycles of the magnet passes, and no notable continuation of oscillation. But that doesnt mean that a resonant freq of the coil is not occurring. And there can be gain in amplitude during that one cycle when at or near the resonant freq of the coil, even though it is damped by the magnets still having a hold on the coil when the magnet is leaving the coil, beyond the flip of polarity between peaks of the freq of resonance. Hope that makes sense. ;)

So the only way I could conceive how he might have gotten as much capacitance as I would imagine to get that low of a freq would be to separate the individual strands at each end of the litz and forming a series bifi using half of the strands for one winding and the other half for the other. This would then become 600 turns thus increasing inductance even further along with increasing capacitance by having so many bifi winding surfaces within physical contact of each other as compared to the standard 2 multi stranded wires wound next to each other. Only then was I able to conceive the possibility of the motor being able to achieve the freq to get the coil to produce the effect. Look how big the coil in my vid is, being a single filar coil and how low of a freq it reacts at, then look at the size of Romeros coils. My coil, I used caps to tune by applying them to the ends of the coil. This is different than having the capacitance within the coil throughout.... and maybe that is why I had rpm lock instead of speedup.

And then there is the 7th strand. Was it shorted? Or was it added to one of the bifi strands to make 4 and 3? Didnt make much sense to me then just as it doesnt now soo, I lean toward the short. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 13, 2013, 05:21:51 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0mYMIKmGo0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0mYMIKmGo0)

Open tesla coil load test

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 13, 2013, 08:36:55 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYpz9ak34e0

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 13, 2013, 07:09:34 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 13, 2013, 08:36:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYpz9ak34e0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYpz9ak34e0)

Hey Dave
I guess your diagram didn't end up in the quote. Oh well...
That's a neat video. I'm wondering whether instead of a magnetic field with our series-wound bifi winding, we would scalar vectors (with the opposingly wound strands cancelling out each other's mag fields). In this case, we can develop high voltage (relative to input) with large capacitance and extremely low amperage.

If we drive this kind of coil to resonance by putting a cap at one end of the windings, we have a ringing bell. Would not another identical, but perpendicular coil also ringalingaling (like the song says)?

Or...

Suppose we have three series-wound bifi coils wound each 120 degrees around the coil (TPU style - [OPPA Tito Style?]) The big bifi coil and cap rings, the perpendicular coils ring back, and slowly, a these series of secondary rings build into a series of kicks.

Now, if we put a pickup coil over the primary and 3 kicking secondaries, are we going to pick up some electric action?

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 14, 2013, 04:09:28 AM

i just want everyone know that spark gap is capacitor in nature ok? 8)

very much faster but noisy isn't it?. :D
pulling strong energy in the air, well, not bad. :)

but be careful sometimes we can pull lightning in the air. ;D
over coil might get very high voltage that can able to pull lightning, and if your not insulated
well, expect some human barbeque instantly, wow crunchy and delicious ;D ;D ;D lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 14, 2013, 04:36:27 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 14, 2013, 04:09:28 AM

TESLA BOOM =SPARK GAP = CAPACITOR + COIL

if you notice in the laboratory of Tesla, there he is producing very large electricity like lightning.

therefore as the facts says then that you should ready your lab first for big electricity and not just like that and ready your self, remember you are now dealing with bigger spark. wow you are now somebody like tesla. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on April 14, 2013, 04:41:32 AM

Hi sir teets,
Do you mean to replace the sparkgap with a capacitor?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 14, 2013, 04:44:54 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on April 14, 2013, 04:41:32 AM

Hi sir teets,
Do you mean to replace the sparkgap with a capacitor?

NO!. The spark gap is already a capacitor, just make it quiet. ;)

be careful ladies and gentle men your dealing with extra ordinary voltage here if making lots of series bifi.
sometimes you don't notice and expect that you are reaching beyond limits in nature. :o

extremely careful! :)

Back emf means pulling from outside going back inside, so if your device can pull strong energy going back and you are near at it then lets celebrate ;D rip lol joke

according to tesla about his bifi coils strength is 250,000 times stronger than ordinary coils, so its great and really strong isn't it?

BIFI= STRONG PLUS OTHER SERIES = STONGER PLUS OTHER SERIES = STRONGEST ;D

50,000 VOLTS AND UP PLUS CAPS = STINGING EFFECT CAN BE FELT, WELL THAT'S ACCORDING TO TESLA, HOW MUCH MORE IF YOU CAN REACH MORE, WOW YOUR MORE THAN TESLA THEN ;D

WOW AMAZING!!!

NO KIDDING :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 14, 2013, 09:39:59 AM

TEETS
AKA kIDLAT ( aLYAS LIGHTNING KID)
ARE WE NEAR OR LOST AGAIN WITH YOUR DISCOVERY
pulling from outside going back inside
NAHHHEHHHHELLLO AKO ( FEEL DIZZY)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 14, 2013, 10:41:10 AM

Eds PMH=TPU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 14, 2013, 10:41:48 AM

Now add the pickup coil

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 15, 2013, 09:47:36 PM

A sketch of the z-Pinch Equilibrium. A -θ directed magnetic field (shown in purple) corresponds to a z directed plasma current (shown in yellow).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinch_%28plasma_physics%29

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 15, 2013, 09:52:53 PM

QuoteA toroidal coordinate system in common use in plasma physics. The red arrow indicates the poloidal direction (θ) and the blue arrow indicates the toroidal direction (φ)

blue indicates the magnet field red indicates the electric field

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 16, 2013, 08:02:05 AM

As per Teets' remarks:
http://www.magnetricity.com/Bifilar.php (http://www.magnetricity.com/Bifilar.php)
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 16, 2013, 08:42:37 AM

Tesla's bifilar has increased voltage and magnetic field but why?

The bemf is fed back into the coil instead of the circuit, even a coil fed ac has bemf.
Look at the zvs, the capacitor collects the bemf from the coils and feeds it back into the coil on the next pulse like a double lc circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 16, 2013, 09:54:07 PM

You guy's know Im all about theory and idea's right ::)

Here's one what would happen if we submerged the pmh in a liquid dielectric powered a toroid under the pmh with dc (connected their fields) let the dielectric solidify, what would happen when the lower toroid were removed.
Oh I forgot to mention the lead plate connected to ground.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Kev on April 16, 2013, 11:03:52 PM

Did anyone achieve free energy?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Kev on April 17, 2013, 03:02:20 AM

Captret seems to have free energy :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Kev on April 17, 2013, 04:13:03 AM

@Tito

Do you speak English? I know you can write in English but not perfect.
Just wanted to know if you speak English

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 17, 2013, 07:12:53 AM

An experiment I need to do again and video.

I took an E core transformer removed the outer core, this left only the inner core and the two coil windings, I submerged the transformer in water and froze without any power. After it was frozen I pulsed the primary, just by hand, I probably hadnt bumped it three or four times, it for lack of a better explanation exploded, I dont mean it sent shrapnel everywhere but it shattered the ice inside the container and sounded like a gun going off, scared the daylights out of me.
Ice is a perfect dielectric, and the fields create a path through the ice if powered up while being frozen.
Think about that path, absolutely no resistance, a superconductor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 17, 2013, 07:45:13 AM

Iv thought alot about ice in a thunderstorm, they say the ice collides with each other and this causes charge buildup in a cloud but ice is a dielectric and not a charge carrier.

I think the ice crosses the earths magnetic field lines causing the electric field to be deflected creating a charge in the water vapor which is a charge carrier.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 19, 2013, 05:20:38 AM

Safety tips: :)

DO NOT CONDUCT YOUR EXPERIMENT ON RAINY SEASON OR GOING TO RAIN OKAY?.

REMEMBER : IN THE TIME OF TESLA, BY JUST HOLDING THE MAGNET WIRE HE CAN ALREADY KNOW INSTANTLY THE BEHAVIOR OF THAT COIL, SO THEREFORE HE KNOWS THE LIMITS OF WHAT HE IS DOING, NOT JUST ONE PLUS ONE PLUS ONE COILS EQUALS PERFECT ;D THAT'S DANGEROUS! EVERYONE :o ;D

SO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL.

TO BE ABLE FOR A PERSON TO BE SAVE ON LIGHTNING, THEN HE SHOULD INSIDE THE CAGE RIGHT? WHY? SELF EXPLANATORY ;D

GLOVES ARE GOOD ISN'T IT? ???

AND HERE'S THE BIG TRUTH!

"CONSIDER A SINGLE PULSE" :-X

IF YOU CAN'T GET IT STILL THEN I DON'T KNOW TO YOU!!! >:( >:( >:( :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 20, 2013, 08:47:17 AM

When a coil is powered up if forms a field around the coil that runs opposite the applied current.
When the power is off the field collapses into the coil and we get bemf.

But if the coil is submerged in a dielectric, powered up and the dielectric is allowed to solidify the field cuts channels in the dielectric then when the coil is pulsed the field cannot collapse into the coil but follows the channels.............no bemf

If a collection plate is placed in the path of the field it will take the path of least resistance, and we have a pump.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 27, 2013, 06:36:14 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD8_FrNeNRc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD8_FrNeNRc) ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV9nS_5kYgM&feature=fvwp&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV9nS_5kYgM&feature=fvwp&NR=1) ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=smuCwUKyhkg&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=smuCwUKyhkg&NR=1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJQ1FQ68lU8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJQ1FQ68lU8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=bZijeqH5T0Q&feature=endscreen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=bZijeqH5T0Q&feature=endscreen)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLEDC8D3399533F850&v=P75Z7AN6GkA&NR=1&feature=endscreen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLEDC8D3399533F850&v=P75Z7AN6GkA&NR=1&feature=endscreen)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9rsQvb8SZE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9rsQvb8SZE)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQGtpo2IUxA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQGtpo2IUxA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zpsEO5t-TM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zpsEO5t-TM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMR5KbNZ7b8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMR5KbNZ7b8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ritaljhhk7s&NR=1&feature=fvwp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ritaljhhk7s&NR=1&feature=fvwp)

Electricity is a momentary energy but because of speed, it makes a continuous energy.
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 28, 2013, 02:37:51 PM

Tito, I need your comment on last theory that every ou is by transmutation of atoms aka radioactive aka Colman patent .I can't believe in that because it would put us in restrictional law. What do you think ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 29, 2013, 04:09:15 AM

Quote from: forest on April 28, 2013, 02:37:51 PM
Tito, I need your comment on last theory that every ou is by transmutation of atoms aka radioactive aka Colman patent .I can't believe in that because it would put us in restrictional law. What do you think ?

Well, for me, radioactive is just another way of making energy, and in this way we are using energy in input to output, did you get that, i can't explain it very clear. ;D for me not a good way to ou.

FOR ME AND FOR TESLA, THE ENERGY IS ALREADY THERE AND EVERYWHERE COMPLETELY IN BALANCE STATE AND REALLY IN CONSERVATIVE ACTION, AND ALL WE NEED TO DO IS TO DISTURB IT IN THE AIR AND RECEIVE AND SQUEEZE IT FROM THE AIR. 8)

THE PLAN OF TESLA IS REALLY TO MAKE FLUCTUATION SO THAT TRANSFER AND INDUCTION IS POSSIBLE ;)

AND THE ROOT OF AMPLIFICATION IS THE SEPARATED PULSE. 8)

A CHAIN OF RE- ACTING IS THE WAY. ;) 8)

WE ARE ALREADY LIVING IN SEA OF ENERGY JUST HARNESSED IT ;)

MANY PEOPLE REALLY READING THIS THREAD AND THEY KNOW THAT MANY TIMES I AM FOOLING THEM, BUT THEY KNOW THAT I TELL THE TRUTH. ;)

AND THAT'S THE TRUTH! >:( :-*

HOPE YOU GOT IT WRONG. ;D JOKE.

ALL THE BEST IN THE WEST ;D ;D ;D

LOL
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 29, 2013, 04:26:35 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 20, 2013, 08:47:17 AM
When a coil is powered up if forms a field around the coil that runs opposite the applied current.
When the power is off the field collapses into the coil and we get bemf.

But if the coil is submerged in a dielectric, powered up and the dielectric is allowed to solidify the field cuts channels in the dielectric then when the coil is pulsed the field cannot collapse into the coil but follows the channels.............no bemf

If a collection plate is placed in the path of the field it will take the path of least resistance, and we have a pump.

OK DAVE, HERE IS A BIG TIP FOR YOU. :)

"HOW CAN YOU MAKE A BIG COLLAPSED IN YOUR DESIGN?" ;) ??? :-X

HOPE YOU GOT IT WRONG ALSO. LOL ;D JOKE

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 29, 2013, 04:28:53 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 29, 2013, 04:09:15 AM

Well, for me, radioactive is just another way of making energy, and in this way we are using energy in input to output, did you get that, i can't explain it very clear. ;D for me not a good way to ou.

FOR ME AND FOR TESLA, THE ENERGY IS ALREADY THERE AND EVERYWHERE COMPLETELY IN BALANCE STATE AND REALLY IN CONSERVATIVE ACTION, AND ALL WE NEED TO DO IS TO DISTURB IT IN THE AIR AND RECEIVE AND SQUEEZE IT FROM THE AIR. 8)

THE PLAN OF TESLA IS REALLY TO MAKE FLUCTUATION SO THAT TRANSFER AND INDUCTION IS POSSIBLE ;)

AND THE ROOT OF AMPLIFICATION IS THE SEPARATED PULSE. 8)

A CHAIN OF RE- ACTING IS THE WAY. ;) 8)

WE ARE ALREADY LIVING IN SEA OF ENERGY JUST HARNESSED IT ;)

MANY PEOPLE REALLY READING THIS THREAD AND THEY KNOW THAT MANY TIMES I AM FOOLING THEM, BUT THEY KNOW THAT I TELL THE TRUTH. ;)

AND THAT'S THE TRUTH! >:( :-*

HOPE YOU GOT IT WRONG. ;D JOKE.

ALL THE BEST IN THE WEST ;D ;D ;D

LOL
;D

I know that all, but you must proof your device is free from any harmful radiation - and statement that every ou is done by transmutation close all doors for us to make such devices (it become like Fleischmann–Pons cold fusion). Did you checked for radiation from device?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 29, 2013, 04:40:25 AM

Quote from: forest on April 29, 2013, 04:28:53 AM

I know that all, but you must proof your device is free from any harmful radiation - and statement that every ou is done by transmutation close all doors for us to make such devices (it become like Fleischmann–Pons cold fusion). Did you checked for radiation from device?

Well, i admit there is harmful radiation, because it makes a dis association of atom in our body specially if we are near in the field of our device. yes!

but we have already antidote to that, that i already presented here in this thread a couple of page ago. and the world didn't notice it.

and since they made me angry, i will not talk again about that, sorry. :-\

THERE IS NO TRANSMUTATION OK, EVERYTHING IS IN CONSTANT STATE, JUST DISTURB AND SQUEEZE OK. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 29, 2013, 04:47:00 AM

sorry :( :( :( :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 29, 2013, 04:50:44 AM

"I would not be angry..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH97lImrr0Q ::)

tell me please.....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 29, 2013, 04:55:42 AM

Quote from: forest on April 29, 2013, 04:47:00 AM
sorry :( :( :( :'(

DON'T WORRY BUDDY I'M JUST COOLING MY HEART FOR A MOMENT, MAYBE SOME DAY I'LL TALK TO THAT AGAIN. ;)

TILL NEXT TIME BYE. ;) :)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 30, 2013, 07:28:05 PM

Do you really want free energy, really

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Rodelu on May 01, 2013, 03:22:40 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 30, 2013, 07:28:05 PM
Do you really want free energy, really

would you mind elaborate a bit?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: truesearch on May 01, 2013, 11:52:55 AM

@Dave45

Yeah, can share the "facts" with us? ;D

I think that if there where clear instructions/directions given (that were possible to follow in a "garage" lab) that some of us do, in fact, "really want free energy".

truesearch

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on May 01, 2013, 01:38:37 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 30, 2013, 07:28:05 PM
Do you really want free energy, really

Please please please make sure you use that murkaba in the correct fashion. They are not to be trifled with. You need to know quite a bit of stuff to use the merkaba correctly without disastrous effects on you and many many others around you.

Do your home work before experimenting with that tool. Know everything that you can first before playing with such a powerful device. The king Solomon was the only one to weild successfully the device you are playing around with by our records of history.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 02, 2013, 10:26:47 AM

Energy vortex

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: truesearch on May 02, 2013, 04:27:47 PM

@Dave45:

How do you get the "energy-vortex" to happen while you freeze the water? Are you pulsing the two separate wire coils that form the "Star-Of-David"?

And beings this shows an evident "energy-vortex", how can we effectively extract "free-energy" ??

truesearch

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 02, 2013, 04:47:04 PM

This is with 12 dc, Im going to freeze it with ac soon.
Look at the Tesla egg of columbus, this is the field that we need to collect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec4u4BfS4tE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 02, 2013, 07:35:30 PM

Hey Dave

Very cool with the ice. ;)

So this is a spinning field?

How do we collect from it? We are used to collecting expanding and contracting, or also controlling where a strong field will be from where it was. But if the field is spinning, we dont have field lines 'crossing' wires.

Have you done any of the ice visuals with just a magnet suspended?

Thanks

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 02, 2013, 10:10:02 PM

Hey Mags

I have not tried to collect from this particular coil yet, still studying. This is done with 12 volts dc, the two triangle coils are connected in series as soon as it thaws Im going to hook it up with ac and let it freeze.

I have used a solenoid type coil without a core and an aluminum plate under the coil and collected from the plate, I will eventually do the same with this coil.

Iv studied alot of devices and normal induction just doesnt seem to do the trick, the plan is to create a energy well, a sink.
I hope to get more people interested and experimenting with the ice I have found some very unusual qualitys that need to be researched more, you folks have alot more experience than me.

Use bottled drinking water it works the best I have tried about everything to get a clear view.

This is the setup I used to collect from the solenoid, I will try this coil soon.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 02, 2013, 10:38:11 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 02, 2013, 10:10:02 PM

I have used a solenoid type coil without a core and an aluminum plate under the coil and collected from the plate, I will eventually do the same with this coil.

But what is collected to the plate? And in reference to what?

Like wouldnt 2 plates be necessary in order to have a - and + to work with?

Im just trying to get to the meat of your ideas. Like was said earlier, ok we see the coil, but what does it do and how do we do it? ;) So by saying 1 plate, is it just to pull energy into the coil or to get from the coil? The reason I say is you said the plate is for collecting, but in the drawing it looks like it is connected to ground.

So if the plate is for introducing more energy into the system, what energy are we talking about or dealing with? Are we pulling electrons from the ground into the circuit? Is the water only there for the freezing visual purposes, or is it acting like a dielectric between the coil and plate?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 02, 2013, 11:36:49 PM

Electricity goes to ground, Iv wired plenty of houses the electricity comes in as 220 volts on two legs each leg is separated, 110 volts and runs to ground with a resistive or inductive load in between.

The idea is to freeze the system running to ground no resistance then a resistance can be placed between the plate and ground.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 03, 2013, 01:04:55 AM

You could say that electricity is moving through the ground back to the system but if we remove one load the other load still works.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 03, 2013, 01:20:49 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 03, 2013, 01:04:55 AM
You could say that electricity is moving through the ground back to the system but if we remove one load the other load still works.

Actually there is a ground at the other end, like I show here in the transformer as a center tap of the 220 to get 110 on each leg. No? ??? :)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 03, 2013, 01:30:39 AM

Sorry, forgot to post the pic above. Its there now. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 03, 2013, 01:46:01 AM

Yes there is a ground that comes in with the mains but its connected to the transformer case and to a grounding wire on the pole it doesnt connect to the transformer's coil.

The ice
say I have a nozzle (coil) and its spraying ping pong balls at a plate that is full of holes and I line it up perfect where all the balls are hitting the holes everything works great but as soon as I add resistance the balls start bouncing out, the holes are full they start reflecting.
but if I add a tube (ice tube) that connects the nozzle to the plate then add resistance the balls cannot reflect and are forced through the resistance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 03, 2013, 04:12:45 AM

??? :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on May 03, 2013, 09:56:51 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on May 03, 2013, 01:20:49 AM
Actually there is a ground at the other end, like I show here in the transformer as a center tap of the 220 to get 110 on each leg. No? ??? :)

Mags

Yes Mags, you are correct. ;) And if you loose the grounded center tap in the trans at the pole, an unbalanced load in the house will cause an under voltage on one phase and an over voltage in the other phase. :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 03, 2013, 10:29:21 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 03, 2013, 04:12:45 AM
??? :-\

:o :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Hel on May 04, 2013, 08:01:01 AM

Please forgive my intrusion, I recently started reading this entire thread from beginning...
and since every possible link has been posted, well take this one too, and have a careful read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythomania

I too, of course, have built a working FE device. I started powering my home with it since some weeks.
But I will NEVER explain you how it works, because I'm sadic and I enjoy like a crazy playing with you going
mad with my riddles ! (OK)

Really, forgive me very very much, I couldn't hold my mood back (OK).
Without any offense to anyone, huh :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 04, 2013, 08:31:19 AM

Here is my explanation.... what is the best way to spoil truth ? No, not by contradiction but by adding pure nonsense which looks good from first look but is a total bullshit actually. The same happened to the tips left by our ancestors. So if you hear that this or that free energy device will work only in special place, but won't when moved - it is a hoax added to spoil the correct information that such device will work only on the South or North hemisphere . This is just example of supression of information. Tito told us the truth, actually this is very simple , and happening all the time on Sun :P Energy is here ready to tap it. Just don't kill the dipole ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 04, 2013, 01:21:06 PM

Quote²²Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,
²³Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?

This is why I work with the ice
He said it and I believe

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on May 04, 2013, 01:24:21 PM

nobody here know where the free energy come from, even though some people know how to make it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 04, 2013, 01:36:14 PM

I tore apart and old transformer(pole pig) some months ago and found no center tap to ground.
http://www.powertransformer.us/singlephasetransformers.htm (http://www.powertransformer.us/singlephasetransformers.htm)
There are different types it seems, but even with a center tap you can see electricity goes to ground, a lower potential.
This is an interesting wiring diagram

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on May 04, 2013, 07:54:05 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 04, 2013, 01:36:14 PM
I tore apart and old transformer(pole pig) some months ago and found no center tap to ground.
http://www.powertransformer.us/singlephasetransformers.htm (http://www.powertransformer.us/singlephasetransformers.htm)
There are different types it seems, but even with a center tap you can see electricity goes to ground, a lower potential.
This is an interesting wiring diagram

This seems to be a shorted secondary??? Odd???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 04, 2013, 08:19:49 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 04, 2013, 01:36:14 PM
I tore apart and old transformer(pole pig) some months ago and found no center tap to ground.
http://www.powertransformer.us/singlephasetransformers.htm (http://www.powertransformer.us/singlephasetransformers.htm)
There are different types it seems, but even with a center tap you can see electricity goes to ground, a lower potential.
This is an interesting wiring diagram

Hmm. The transformer you are showing in the pic is 220vac only as shown. This is the other pic from your link that shows how you get 110vac and it is a tapped secondary to ground.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 04, 2013, 10:01:01 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on May 04, 2013, 08:19:49 PM
Hmm. The transformer you are showing in the pic is 220vac only as shown. This is the other pic from your link that shows how you get 110vac and it is a tapped secondary to ground.

Mags

Yes it looks like I was wrong, as I stated the transformer I tore apart had no center tap to ground, it was a very old transformer.
But electricity still runs to ground, the pic I posted will do the same two legs coming in with 110 volts on each relative to ground.
Trying to pull energy from a plate relative to ground is nothing new Tesla did the same, the difference is Im just trying to funnel energy using a coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 05, 2013, 02:15:44 AM

LAdies in Gintlemen ;D

Lets say the picture diagram with the center tap.

Can't you see that the secret of Tesla is in there? :(
There are actually 3 coils involve in there. ::) :-X

That design is very looooong time ago.
That's weird. :o

When the electrons are not in position, they are weak and looosy, but if they are active and in correct arrangement, they are strong! 8) ;)

The use of many coils is to recover ok! >:( ;) 8)

That's it, so long fell ;)

BIG TITS ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 05, 2013, 02:40:59 AM

EMP IS THE WAY TO PRODUCE MASSIVE STRONG SHOCK WAVE, AND THE ANTIDOTE TO THIS IS HAARP 8)

Like in dynamite fishing, the fish are just being killed by the strong shock wave isn't it? ;) 8)

Now, do you know that every living things that has heart will explode because of shockwave?. Yes because there is a spark plug thing happening in every heart.

And do you know also that anti venum is made from venum also? ???

wow That's weird :o

big tits ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 05, 2013, 10:14:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lyDgYinbEHI#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lyDgYinbEHI#!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfF2KA5OkKs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfF2KA5OkKs)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 06, 2013, 09:59:54 PM

Thought you guy's might find this interesting, its a time lapse of the ice condensing the magnetic field as it freezes, I think ;D
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/9656-electric-field-magnet-30.html#post230446

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on May 11, 2013, 04:35:42 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on April 11, 2013, 10:24:47 PM

I have a question: Supposing you have --
2 perpendicular coils:
- a parallel-wound bifilar coil, coiled in a ring (like the TPU) with a cap across one end (i.e., joining two parallel ends);
- a similar parallel bifilar coil with cap across one end (as above) wound perpendicular to the ring in a short (say 1 inch wide) section.

Suppose you pulse the larger winding - we should get a ringing, then the perpendicular winding with cap will also ring, will it not?

How do we help the ringing continue?
Does the answer lie in a Lenzless arrangement?
Does the answer lie in a continuous small pulse involving a 555 timer chip or JT type setup using a transistor?

Do we perhaps need a third coil to pick up the ringing in the first two, perhaps with its own parallel-charged caps discharging in series?

So many questions. Work is crazy right now and I can't get near my bench, so for now, I'll try to reason this out and ask questions.
Bob

Maybe this is the answer... See attachments. See both posts.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on May 11, 2013, 04:37:13 AM

And also this, see attachment.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 11, 2013, 05:52:39 AM

cool simple motors :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0c8TnAX_oE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0c8TnAX_oE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjWCprVXer8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjWCprVXer8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsCAc2ny2zg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsCAc2ny2zg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tAG3oD8XVM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tAG3oD8XVM) ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnxNGZWzc0c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnxNGZWzc0c) ;D ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayovPr_WjSM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayovPr_WjSM) ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 11, 2013, 10:43:36 AM

I tried a grounding plate, so far no results.
Any idea's

:-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 12, 2013, 06:00:18 PM

Diamonds are forever but nothing last forever unless there is REcycling ??? 8) :-\

Therefore i conclude, Recycling is diamond. :D

E=MC2 IS WRONG OR NOT ENOUGH BECAUSE ENERGY CAN BE CALLED ENERGY WHEN THERE IS A STRESS OR INBALANCE WHEREIN IT CAN BE
CALLED ENERGY. IT
SHOULD BE:

E = MC2 + W + S / F.

WHERE:
W = WEIGHT
S = STRESS
F = Strength of the field

Lets say you are in a very dark place wherein there is no light, and speed of light is not possible then C2 is not anymore applicable but if there is weight and stress then our formula will work even there is no light ok?. ;) 8)

and everything is variated by the strength of the field. ;)

ENERGY = MOVING OR CURRENTLY IN ACTION

MAN IS NOT ENERGY BUT IT IS CAPABLE TO DO ENERGY

MASS IS NOT ENERGY, ITS JUST A SIZE
LIGHT IS NOT ENERGY, ITS JUST A LUMINATION
WEIGHT IS NOT ENERGY ITS JUST DEFINED BY GRAVITY ;D
STRESS IS NOT ENERGY ITS A PROBLEM ???

ENERGY THEN IS THE RESULT OF COMBINATION OF ALL FOUR RULES.

AND ALSO AIR, WATER AND DARKNESS ARE CAPABLE ALSO TO MAKE ENERGY NATURALLY. WRITE? :D

EXAMPLE; DARKNESS CAN MAKE A SENSOR AND MAKE A DECISION TO LIGHT UP THE BULB WRITE?. 8)
THE OTHERS ARE SELF EXPLANATORY. ;)

and that is just a common natural. lol ;D ;D ;D

BUT! BUT! BUT! ???

YOUR BIG BIG TITS
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on May 17, 2013, 10:38:28 AM

We are on this forum trying to be enlightened and now tito is trying to sell us on darkness. I think Hel wrapped it up.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on May 17, 2013, 11:25:08 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgMrYPax5dE
:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqf3bUL4YqE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqf3bUL4YqE)
:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxEpSX2Hd54 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxEpSX2Hd54)
;D ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw7hajAjv5k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw7hajAjv5k)
:-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 19, 2013, 10:52:27 PM

Quote from: MrMag on May 17, 2013, 10:38:28 AM
We are on this forum trying to be enlightened and now tito is trying to sell us on darkness. I think Hel wrapped it up.

???

:-\

:P

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 20, 2013, 07:23:17 AM

I set my mind and heart to find free energy for the poor in this world,
I thought I was doing God's work, I said I would know it when I seen it and when I did I saw it is evil, pagan.

I have been searching my heart and asking God why, God said His ways are not our ways. When man fell from grace we were cursed to plow the land and live by the sweat of our brow but the deceiver which has deceived man from the beginning showed man an easy way to live in comfort at ease, living in comfort and ease brings drunkenness and drugs, sex out of marriage, addictions and all manner of evil.

God knew through hardship man would seek Him but through ease man turns to his own lusts.

God said to be separate from the world to follow Him, the people who live without electricity, drive wagons pulled by horses and seek God are the true people of God they have kept themselves separate.

I have done wrong in the eyes of my God and all I can do is ask forgiveness

seek God my brothers for we are in the last days, turn from evil, separate yourselves.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 20, 2013, 11:13:34 AM

Thank you for your words of honesty, Dave.
Chapter 1 of the prophet Haggai comes to mind when I consider the FE movement in this crumbling culture.
God's plans are always much better than our own.
Blessings to you in your striving to follow them.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 21, 2013, 10:41:11 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwZW2X54aw0

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 23, 2013, 07:19:32 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 20, 2013, 07:23:17 AM
I set my mind and heart to find free energy for the poor in this world,
I thought I was doing God's work, I said I would know it when I seen it and when I did I saw it is evil, pagan.

I have been searching my heart and asking God why, God said His ways are not our ways. When man fell from grace we were cursed to plow the land and live by the sweat of our brow but the deceiver which has deceived man from the beginning showed man an easy way to live in comfort at ease, living in comfort and ease brings drunkenness and drugs, out of marriage, addictions and all manner of evil.

God knew through hardship man would seek Him but through ease man turns to his own lusts.

God said to be separate from the world to follow Him, the people who live without electricity, drive wagons pulled by horses and seek God are the true people of God they have kept themselves separate.

I have done wrong in the eyes of my God and all I can do is ask forgiveness

seek God my brothers for we are in the last days, turn from evil, separate yourselves.

dave

Hi everyone :)

Seriously speaking there is actually a battle in me between my family and my discovery, i really want to earn money from these for my family hope you understand.

This is the only thing i got now and for me this is not the solution to our problem in this world.

Prohibiting from sin is the solution ok? ;)

So therefore i conclude that bringing back our good relation to JESUS is the real solution.

So i believe that even i will not give freely what i discover is just okay. right?

And that is a challenge to all of you at least i gave the spirit of sureness of there is real free energy though i didn't show it. ;)

believe it and thats the truth. ;)

Your big brother otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 25, 2013, 09:14:52 AM

Tito

Try to make something good from this invention : try if it's able to solve one of your local community common problem... What I was always looking for is a method to heat my home electrically and during almost 12 years of my adventure with free energy I first wanted a car run on water but very shortly I realized that it would not solve any problem, while the way to heat home is the real problem which need and will be solved. I hope so

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 26, 2013, 12:23:18 AM

Quote from: forest on May 25, 2013, 09:14:52 AM
Tito

Try to make something good from this invention : try if it's able to solve one of your local community common problem... What I was always looking for is a method to heat my home electrically and during almost 12 years of my adventure with free energy I first wanted a car run on water but very shortly I realized that it would not solve any problem, while the way to heat home is the real problem which need and will be solved. I hope so

Yes, well, that's good buddy. but luckily in my local community we are bless with water, electrical energy and its very hot here and what we need is an air conditioner, well, in rainy season i use the hot air blower that they use in hair saloon parlor ;D to heat my home, ready made at least 3 pcs will work perfectly and always available and easy to use. ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 26, 2013, 10:06:40 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 26, 2013, 12:23:18 AM
Yes, well, that's good buddy. but luckily in my local community we are bless with water, electrical energy and its very hot here and what we need is an air conditioner, well, in rainy season i use the hot air blower that they use in hair saloon parlor ;D to heat my home, ready made at least 3 pcs will work perfectly and always available and easy to use. ;D ;D

Teets,
Best to make sure blowers don't have asbestos insulation inside.
Take care,
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on May 26, 2013, 01:34:58 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 26, 2013, 12:23:18 AM

Yes, well, that's good buddy. but luckily in my local community we are bless with water, electrical energy and its very hot here and what we need is an air conditioner, well, in rainy season i use the hot air blower that they use in hair saloon parlor ;D to heat my home, ready made at least 3 pcs will work perfectly and always available and easy to use. ;D

;D

hi otits
I live in the mountains near a spring 18 deg the whole year lots of mango trees and shade almost cover the ground @ noon
We have a bunker which is 3 degrees cooler.....
In the suburb, where the sun face the fire wall, I used water containers collected from rain and serves as a buffer from the 36 deg C heat... I sprinkle the corrugated roof with solar pump and the free fall serves a mild breeze
with halo halo ( ground ice and fruits) a siesta in the afternoon ..... thats the way of life in a tropical region......
The most basic for home cooling are trees trees and trees ......

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on May 27, 2013, 01:36:23 AM

@Tito

Tol D ba programmer ka, kaya mo ba gumawa ng software sa celfon na nagproproduce ng sound at pwede magselect ng frequency from 1khz to 1ghz? Gagamitin ko kc para malaman ung mechanical resonance frequency ng magnet.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on May 27, 2013, 04:11:25 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 23, 2013, 07:19:32 PM

Hi everyone :)

Seriously speaking there is actually a battle in me between my family and my discovery, i really want to earn money from these for my family hope you understand.

This is the only thing i got now and for me this is not the solution to our problem in this world.

Prohibiting from sin is the solution ok? ;)

So therefore i conclude that bringing back our good relation to JESUS is the real solution.

So i believe that even i will not give freely what i discover is just okay. right?

And that is a challenge to all of you at least i gave the spirit of sureness of there is real free energy though i didn't show it. ;)

believe it and thats the truth. ;)

Your big brother otits ;D

Bring back your relation with Jesus?? But you do not want to save lives. You do not want to share what Jesus gave you. The greed in you will let children without water and electricity die for your gain. I'm sure Jesus would of done the same, right? What do you think he would want you to do. Maybe it was the devil that gave it to you so that people could see the real you and what kind of person you really are. Who knows?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: conradelektro on May 27, 2013, 04:23:43 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 23, 2013, 07:19:32 PM
Hi everyone :)

Seriously speaking there is actually a battle in me between my family and my discovery, i really want to earn money from these for my family hope you understand.

This is the only thing i got now and for me this is not the solution to our problem in this world.

Prohibiting from sin is the solution ok? ;)

So therefore i conclude that bringing back our good relation to JESUS is the real solution.

So i believe that even i will not give freely what i discover is just okay. right?

And that is a challenge to all of you at least i gave the spirit of sureness of there is real free energy though i didn't show it. ;)

believe it and thats the truth. ;)

Your big brother otits ;D

Lithium can help. See your doctor and take your medication.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium#Medicine

Greetings, Conrad

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 27, 2013, 06:34:32 AM

oh boy :(

Are you not happy that once in awhile i'm really serious? ??? :-\

and saying what is in my heart. ???

well, i will not go to your level of thinking anymore cause i'm tired of explaining ok!!!!!!!!. >:( ;D

@neo
Sorry pare mga games ang mga pinoprogram ko date at mga computer virus at medyo kinalawang nako kase nag concentrate ako sa pag solve kay Tesla e :D

pero base sa research may 120 hz ang magnet, subukan mong basahin ang kay floyd sweet ok. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 27, 2013, 06:37:13 AM

Quote from: MrMag on May 27, 2013, 04:11:25 AM
Bring back your relation with Jesus?? But you do not want to save lives. You do not want to share what Jesus gave you. The greed in you will let children without water and electricity die for your gain. I'm sure Jesus would of done the same, right? What do you think he would want you to do. Maybe it was the devil that gave it to you so that people could see the real you and what kind of person you really are. Who knows?

i think you can try to look at yourself what kind of person you are. ;D

The way you talk and think and write, well i know you already promise. ;)

my intention is trying to persuade some human to go nearer to the Lord, is that wrong? :o . you decide ladies and gentlemen who really is acting as the devil here. ;)

hitting below the belt ;D bwa hahahahahahaha lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 27, 2013, 06:40:32 AM

Quote from: conradelektro on May 27, 2013, 04:23:43 AM
Lithium can help. See your doctor and take your medication.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium#Medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium#Medicine)

Greetings, Conrad

oh! :o , thank you for your insult. mr contradefective ;D

try to put that in your nose and sip it, and you tell to me your result. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 27, 2013, 06:47:13 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on May 26, 2013, 10:06:40 AM
Teets,
Best to make sure blowers don't have asbestos insulation inside.
Take care,
Bob

whooow! :o thats a good info buddy, thanks ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on May 27, 2013, 08:56:30 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 27, 2013, 06:34:32 AM
@neo
Sorry pare mga games ang mga pinoprogram ko date at mga computer virus at medyo kinalawang nako kase nag concentrate ako sa pag solve kay Tesla e :D

pero base sa research may 120 hz ang magnet, subukan mong basahin ang kay floyd sweet ok. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on May 27, 2013, 08:56:48 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 27, 2013, 06:34:32 AM
@neo
Sorry pare mga games ang mga pinoprogram ko date at mga computer virus at medyo kinalawang nako kase nag concentrate ako sa pag solve kay Tesla e :D

pero base sa research may 120 hz ang magnet, subukan mong basahin ang kay floyd sweet ok. ;)

Ung kay Dan Davidson acoustic magnetic power generator ang nirereplika ko kaso wala akong tools para malaman ang kanyang resonance. Hindi ito 2lad ng kay flowd sweet kc ung kanya ay magnetic resonance ung hinahanap ko naman ay mechanical resonance. Kapag nahanap ko ung resonance nya magvivibrate ng malakas ung magnet kasabay nun magchachange din ung magnetic field nya kaya magpoproduce sya ng malakas na electricity sa coil. Sapalagay ku nasa 100khz-1ghz resonance nun.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on May 27, 2013, 12:26:35 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on May 27, 2013, 01:36:23 AM
@Tito

Tol D ba programmer ka, kaya mo ba gumawa ng software sa celfon na nagproproduce ng sound at pwede magselect ng frequency from 1khz to 1ghz? Gagamitin ko kc para malaman ung mechanical resonance frequency ng magnet.

try mo nch tone generator my free trial

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on May 27, 2013, 11:24:47 PM

Thanks totoalas yan nga ang kailangan ko. Sana gumana :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 30, 2013, 06:16:12 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on May 27, 2013, 08:56:48 AM
Ung kay Dan Davidson acoustic magnetic power generator ang nirereplika ko kaso wala akong tools para malaman ang kanyang resonance. Hindi ito 2lad ng kay flowd sweet kc ung kanya ay magnetic resonance ung hinahanap ko naman ay mechanical resonance. Kapag nahanap ko ung resonance nya magvivibrate ng malakas ung magnet kasabay nun magchachange din ung magnetic field nya kaya magpoproduce sya ng malakas na electricity sa coil. Sapalagay ku nasa 100khz-1ghz resonance nun.

ha! :o , ganun ba!, well, goodluck nalang sayo friend, di ko pa na experience yan ah. post mu nalang dito para mahalukay nateng mabuti. :D [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on May 31, 2013, 10:31:56 AM

Katulad din un ng sa electric guitar, ung magnet pag nagvibrate dahil sa sound na pinoproduce ng string ay lumilikha ng kuyente sa coil na nakapalibot sa magnet.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 01, 2013, 09:00:03 AM

ok yan ah.

cge goodluck. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bryanwizard on June 03, 2013, 11:22:51 PM

well goodluck to us.
I suspect from the very start that you are a Filipino.

Overunity will destroy the law of nature and GOD.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 04, 2013, 02:28:07 AM

Quote from: bryanwizard on June 03, 2013, 11:22:51 PM

Overunity will destroy the law of nature and GOD.

Ya, i'm a filipino but the father and mother of my Grand father are spanish. :)

and i think that is the reason why i'm an inventor cause my grand father is an inventor.
it seems that there is a blood of inventive mind i got from my grand grand parents. :)

and i'm very proud to be a filipino. :)

???

Overunity is really how nature works and that's the perfect way to let the life of the nature last long. ;)

And that is the design of GOD. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: profitis on June 04, 2013, 09:15:32 PM

@bryanwizard,r u kidding me?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on June 04, 2013, 09:27:36 PM

I would like to think that bw mis-spoke.

If so, it would seem a clarification is in order.

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bryanwizard on June 04, 2013, 10:46:51 PM

forgive me I am wrong about it...

what i mean to say we are breaking the natural law of physics and thermodynamics?

which is good for the future generations?

btw i am a Filipino descendant too.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 04, 2013, 11:35:30 PM

Quote from: bryanwizard on June 04, 2013, 10:46:51 PM
forgive me I am wrong about it...

what i mean to say we are breaking the natural law of physics and thermodynamics?

which is good for the future generations?

btw i am a Filipino descendant too.

ahhh, ;) ok.

Well, for me the natural law of physics and thermodynamics are incomplete and that maybe the big reason why there is problems in our system. :D

nice meeting you kabayan. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgkINUcvsqw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgkINUcvsqw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_962135&feature=iv&src_vid=1_YmQJc1G8E&v=U8v7ZQiGSgE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_962135&feature=iv&src_vid=1_YmQJc1G8E&v=U8v7ZQiGSgE)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_YmQJc1G8E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_YmQJc1G8E)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLVLvSZ2_BA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLVLvSZ2_BA)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 05, 2013, 02:59:48 AM

Laws are ok, you just don't include cosmic energy source ! Just think simple ,and you will find the answer...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bryanwizard on June 05, 2013, 03:31:36 AM

Quote from: forest on June 05, 2013, 02:59:48 AM
Laws are ok, you just don't include cosmic energy source ! Just think simple ,and you will find the answer...

oh glad that you find the answer.. you must be rich now selling your ou product in the market.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: profitis on June 05, 2013, 11:37:00 AM

@bryanwizard thers plenty examples of violations of the 2nd law thermo,and yes i would be stinking rich if i had american work permit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: profitis on June 05, 2013, 11:51:35 AM

@tito,hey,are you getting anything overunity ther in your lab yet?i think this tpu magnetostriction stuff is identical in principal to any inductor coil with its paramagnetic core which definitely magnetostricts(changes shape)on each oscillation cycle.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bryanwizard on June 06, 2013, 02:27:11 AM

Quote from: profitis on June 05, 2013, 11:37:00 AM
@bryanwizard thers plenty examples of violations of the 2nd law thermo,and yes i would be stinking rich if i had american work permit.

no need for an american work permit.

a lot of investors would buy your overunity stuff if you it to the public.
Even me would like to spend money for it. Stocks you know.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: profitis on June 06, 2013, 09:07:59 AM

i may have to do it like that yes @bryan.the problem is in my country every corporation has its roots in another country so the i.p.spills to the source country and then you are no longer in control of your own gadget.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: br549 on June 06, 2013, 03:03:37 PM

Hi: I thought this would be the place to post some test results of a transformer experment that I have done.
Hope I am on the right forum for this:
Below is a Document showing my setup ans preliminary test results, and a vidio with some discription.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDNLfcIHYyQ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on June 06, 2013, 05:36:56 PM

Hi br549,

I would like to ask what is the load across the output coils? I cannot see an output load, did you use one?

(If I did the tests I would use a power resistor as a load (preferably a non-inductive resistor) and I would measure the AC current taken by the load i.e. the ampmeter would be in series with the resistor and the output voltage meter would be placed across the load resistor simultaneously, to evaluate the output power.)

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: madddann on June 06, 2013, 05:39:33 PM

@br549
Congratulations on making an overunity device! Also thank you for sharing it openly!
The Flynn paralell path solid state setup is on my "to build" list for quite a long time and I was about to give it a go in about two months. I thought noone was on this project, but I'm glad I was mistaken.
I knew all along this setup has great potential and you just prooved it... kudos to you!

Questions:
Did you also try without the flux bypass loops, I'm curious if the output is greater with the loops in place...
I'm also curious about how powerfull can you build this thing - If you make it power itself and exceed 1W of output, you might apply for the overunity prize...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 06, 2013, 05:53:00 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 04, 2013, 02:28:07 AM

Overunity is really how nature works and that's the perfect way to let the life of the nature last long. ;)

And that is the design of GOD. ;)

That is right up there with one of the most illogical things I have ever read. Unity is how Nature works, energy cannot be created or destroyed the Universe is in Unity, always, it can be no other way, by sheer logic it must be true.

You can't show the creation of energy so what you wrote is simply your own crazy thoughts.

Show energy being created, or even just show a device producing more energy out than you put in, or you will end up looking like a complete liar and a fool.

You make claims and show no proof. In my opinion that's just saying stuff, where I come from it's called talking cr@p.

If anyone takes you seriously they need their head read. Of course you can talk all the Cr@p you want, there is no law against it unless you try to sell something fraudulently.

Keep going it's so ridiculous it's funny to read.

Cheers

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 06, 2013, 06:05:23 PM

No offence Br 549 but I think you simply have a measurement error, considering the tiny power level it would make sense that the power would be incredibly difficult to measure properly, you should try it with 10 Watts or more input. At least then if any extra energy was produced it would an obvious result and enough extra power to measure properly and do something with. No one will be convinced by apparent OU at such low power levels.

I have also measured OU from just a regular transformer using the scope and considering the phase angles and power factor and with a pure sine wave at very low power levels although more than you used I think. It is caused by measurement error in the equipment, the nature of the currents and the power level is so low a very small deviation or measurement error would produce a large error in the results.

I urge you to try the experiment with over 10 Watts and I bet you will see the anomalous measurements disappear, and get more proper results.

The tiny power levels are no use to obtain proper measurements. In my opinion. I'm sure many would agree.

Did you correct for power factor ?

Yes Gyula is correct, there is no load, therefore there is no output. No load no output, simple. efficiency is zero. In my opinion.

Cheers

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: br549 on June 06, 2013, 07:17:01 PM

gyulasun - The meter measuring the input current is directly in series with the input circuit (between the H-Bridge and the Transformer primary), nothing else. The output is directly connected to the the inputs of the meter measuring the output current, and that is it. One channel of the scope is measuring the input RMS voltage, and the other channel is measuring the output RMS voltage. The input frequency and the output frequency are the same.
Madddann - I have tried many differnt combinations, and so far this one seems to be the best (for the components that I am currently using). If you are interested, I can repeat and show some of the tests and results that lead to this point. If the flux bypass coils and the way they are connected make all the difference. The strength of the magnets make a difference.
Farmhand - I don't realy know how to make the measurement process more simple, and accurate (with the equipment on-hand) than what I am currently doing (since the input and the output signal are very simular, and I am measuring the the both the same way. Voltage RMS X Current = power. I have tried to eliminate any measurement error. My equipment is not the best, but it is accurate, so I'm certain the readings are correct, but like you say, there can always be unforseen errors not readly seen. I can present (as time permits) some of my earlyer tests with results.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: br549 on June 06, 2013, 07:24:53 PM

gyula - The meter that is directly connected to the output is rated at 3 amps. It is the load. (I did this to try and eliminate induced error due to any thing placed between my transformer output and my measuring device).

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: profitis on June 06, 2013, 09:04:49 PM

@farmhand,a working perpetual motion device doesnt get energy from nowhere,it sucks in ambient heat on one side and spits it out on the other,chek out the theory page.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on June 07, 2013, 07:49:41 AM

Quote from: br549 on June 06, 2013, 07:24:53 PM
gyula - The meter that is directly connected to the output is rated at 3 amps. It is the load. (I did this to try and eliminate induced error due to any thing placed between my transformer output and my measuring device).

Hi Br549,

Thanks for clarifying the load: it is the inner resistance (impedance) of the HP3478A multimeter when it is in AC amper mode. I looked up the manual on the web for this multimeter but the inner resistance (impedance for AC) was not specified for the two current ranges neither for DC nor for AC, lower range is 300mA, higher is 3A (fused). If I accept the 1.51V rms voltage drop across the ammeter input and I accept the current is 50mA rms then the inner resistance (impedance for AC) is R=1.51/0.05=30 Ohm So this means your load, willy-nilly, was a 30 Ohm resistor, right? This 30 Ohm sounds a bit high to me for a current meter. Agree with this? I also assume that such a current meter (HP) does not have an inductive inner impedance for current measurements, so the AC current and voltage more or less are in phase, right?
Are you not curious if the 30 Ohm inner resistance could be measured from the outside by a normal handheld digital Ohm meter? Well I am... :) Just for a simple cross check, probably the DC ammeter input is the same two terminal as the AC ammeter input, so by choosing the AC current mode from the DC current mode on the HP the input reistance will not change I suppose. You could see this resistance on the hand held DMM hooked to the ammeter input.

One more thing: would you mind checking the output voltage across the ammeter with the other HP multimeter, switched to AC voltage mode? Also a simple cross check. Another thing: if you have a 100 or 200 or 300 Ohm (non wire wound) resistor (wattage is 0.25 or 0.5W) and used it as the load across the transformer output and also measure the AC voltage across this resistor, you could see the rms voltage either on the scope or the HP multimeter (no need to check the current in this resistor load case).

Very interesting setup, have you considered to use a tuning capacitor at the output like at the input? This way the output would be more sinusoid too.

rgds, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 07, 2013, 08:10:15 AM

There is no end to this...even if somebody would show a closed loop system running like Tariel Kapanadze did, it ill be immediatelly attacked and treated as a hoax. Farmhand, how do you propose to PROVE overunity ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on June 07, 2013, 08:20:02 AM

Hi forest,

For instance, for me a self-looped setup would be a perfect proof (without mistereus wires of course). But I just found the service manual for the HP 3478A multimeter and it turns out that it uses an inside 0.1 Ohm resistor when measuring current... this means that measurement error is possible because if you measure 1.51V rms across a 0.1 Ohm resistor then the 50 mA rms current measured is not correct or something else is not correct, sorry.
Link to service and operation manual: http://www.ko4bb.com/manuals/index.php?dir=HP_Agilent/HP_3478A_Multimeter (http://www.ko4bb.com/manuals/index.php?dir=HP_Agilent/HP_3478A_Multimeter)
I am not saying anything other but to double or triple check the measurements, right?

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: profitis on June 07, 2013, 09:44:47 AM

@forest it wont be treated as a joke by corporations if it works believe me,if they want to shelve it let them shelve it as long as you make a fastbuck or two in the process.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: br549 on June 07, 2013, 10:32:53 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on June 07, 2013, 07:49:41 AM
Hi Br549,

Thanks for clarifying the load: it is the inner resistance (impedance) of the HP3478A multimeter when it is in AC amper mode.

Very interesting setup, have you considered to use a tuning capacitorI looked up the manual on the web for this multimeter but the inner resistance (impedance for AC) was not specified for the two current ranges neither for DC nor for AC, lower range is 300mA, higher is 3A (fused). If I accept the 1.51V rms voltage drop across the ammeter input and I accept the current is 50mA rms then the inner resistance (impedance for AC) is R=1.51/0.05=30 Ohm So this means your load, willy-nilly, was a 30 Ohm resistor, right? This 30 Ohm sounds a bit high to me for a current meter. Agree with this? I also assume that such a current meter (HP) does not have an inductive inner impedance for current measurements, so the AC current and voltage more or less are in phase, right?
Are you not curious if the 30 Ohm inner resistance could be measured from the outside by a normal handheld digital Ohm meter? Well I am... :) Just for a simple cross check, probably the DC ammeter input is the same two terminal as the AC ammeter input, so by choosing the AC current mode from the DC current mode on the HP the input reistance will not change I suppose. You could see this resistance on the hand held DMM hooked to the ammeter input.

One more thing: would you mind checking the output voltage across the ammeter with the other HP multimeter, switched to AC voltage mode? Also a simple cross check. Another thing: if you have a 100 or 200 or 300 Ohm (non wire wound) resistor (wattage is 0.25 or 0.5W) and used it as the load across the transformer output and also measure the AC voltage across this resistor, you could see the rms voltage either on the scope or the HP multimeter (no need to check the current in this resistor load case). at the output like at the input? This way the output would be more sinusoid too.

rgds, Gyula

gyulasun: The Internal resistance of the HP 3478A (when set on the AC Current Scale and measured with the other HP 3478A) is one OHM. I replaced the meter on the transformers output with a 1 W (one ohm resistor, and measured the voltage across it. The measurment was (55 millivolts AC). I then removed the one OHM resistor and replaced it with the HP 3478A (set on the AC current scale) and it read 56 milliamps. The other 3478A was in series with the input, and is reading 6.373 milliamps.
The transformer does seem to become more efficient as the output load increases. I will do some more testing (load variation and graph) to see.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on June 07, 2013, 11:35:03 AM

Hi Br549,

Very good, thanks for the efforts.

So the measurements with the 1 Ohm resistor gives output power of about 3mW (0.055² / 1= 0.003) If I assume that the input voltage was about 3.9 Vrms again at the now measured input current of 6.373mA then the input power was about 24.8mW, (COP=3/24.8 i.e. under 1).

You may also wish to consider to tune out the output coils inductive reactance with a similar amount of series capacitive reactance. And how the input current draw changes when the load changes at the output, that would be also a good info.

rgds, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: br549 on June 07, 2013, 03:17:56 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on June 07, 2013, 11:35:03 AM
Hi Br549,

Very good, thanks for the efforts.

So the measurements with the 1 Ohm resistor gives output power of about 3mW (0.055² / 1= 0.003) If I assume that the input voltage was about 3.9 Vrms again at the now measured input current of 6.373mA then the input power was about 24.8mW, (COP=3/24.8 i.e. under 1).

You may also wish to consider to tune out the output coils inductive reactance with a similar amount of series capacitive reactance. And how the input current draw changes when the load changes at the output, that would be also a good info.

rgds, Gyula

Gyulasun: So if I use the same one OHM resistor and insert in series with the input, and measure the voltage across it (6.5 mv) and use the same calculation used on the output, (0.006.5² / 1= 0.00004225) than
the input current seems to be 0.042 ma, making the COP = .003/0.00004225 = 71 which doesn't seem right to me.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 07, 2013, 04:51:49 PM

Quote from: profitis on June 06, 2013, 09:04:49 PM
@farmhand,a working perpetual motion device doesnt get energy from nowhere,it sucks in ambient heat on one side and spits it out on the other,chek out the theory page.

Profitis, can you show me one ? I'm as keen as anyone to see one, no joke,

Forest, it's a measurement error. Br549 simply made an error, anybody can make errors, that includes every human on the planet.

Cheers

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 07, 2013, 05:00:36 PM

This post below should be deleted. That is the stuff that annoys me, a declaration of OU when there is none and without any checking just assume and declare it as OU and proven.
It's too much speculation, and should not be ignored. That is the post that caused me to reply in this thread. No other.

Cheers

Posted by Madddann

Quote@br549
Congratulations on making an overunity device! Also thank you for sharing it openly!
The Flynn paralell path solid state setup is on my "to build" list for quite a long time and I was about to give it a go in about two months. I thought noone was on this project, but I'm glad I was mistaken.
I knew all along this setup has great potential and you just prooved it... kudos to you!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on June 07, 2013, 06:03:23 PM

Quote from: br549 on June 07, 2013, 03:17:56 PM
Gyulasun: So if I use the same one OHM resistor and insert in series with the input, and measure the voltage across it (6.5 mv) and use the same calculation used on the output, (0.006.5² / 1= 0.00004225) than
the input current seems to be 0.042 ma, making the COP = .003/0.00004225 = 71 which doesn't seem right to me.

Br549,

No, I did not say your input power calculation was wrong. It was correct. (What you say as an example for the "input power" (0.006.5² / 1= 0.00004225) just gives the power dissipated in the 1 Ohm resistor due to the 6.37mA input current taken by the input coils, right? (the 6.37mA may have been 6.5mA now that you measured 6.5mV voltage drop across the 1 Ohm). The 6.5mV across it is not the input voltage to your transformer's input coils.

However, the 1 Ohm resistor directly across the output coil terminates the output, it is the load, just like your ammeter was in your video: with its 1 Ohm inner resistance the ammeter served also as a load of 1 Ohm. And in the video you measured 1.5V rms voltage across your ammeter terminals and later you measured 0.055V rms across an outside 1 Ohm resistor. How can you explain this? The 1 Ohm inner resistance of the ammeter and an outside 1 Ohm resistor should give the same load to the output coils, hence the rms voltages must be the same across both (within a few percent).

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: br549 on June 07, 2013, 06:08:18 PM

I'm not sure yet if I have a measurement error or not, or if there is, which way the error goes.
The input and output frequency and waveforms are very simular, and I am using identical meters and scope channels to measure both. Even if the meters and scope was not measuring exactly dead nuts, the ratio between the input and the output should be accurate. (apples to apples), since the input conditions and the output conditions are the same????? :-\ :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on June 07, 2013, 06:18:34 PM

Well, I cannot tell you from a distance either where the error is in your measurements. If you understand what I am saying in my above post, you will surely clarify it. I have no intention to pull your legs.

All your instruments are run from the mains and perhaps the inputs of the instruments are not ground independents when two separate ones like the scope and the HP multimeter is connected to the common output of the transformer, I am just guessing.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on June 07, 2013, 06:56:01 PM

Maybe using a voltage doubler full wave rectifier at the output and then load the DC voltage output with a known resistor could better help in evaluating the output power because in that case you could use a simple handheld digital DC voltmeter (totally ground independent if the HP multimeters are not) to see the voltage across the known resistor. Here is a voltage doubling full wave rectifier schematic I think of:
http://www.play-hookey.com/ac_theory/power_supply/images/rectifier_doubler_expandable.gif (http://www.play-hookey.com/ac_theory/power_supply/images/rectifier_doubler_expandable.gif) from this link:
www.play-hookey.com/ac_theory/power_supply/ps_v_multipliers.html (http://www.play-hookey.com/ac_theory/power_supply/ps_v_multipliers.html) and no real need for grounding one leg of your output coils of course, as is suggested in the schematic. The voltage doubling helps reducing the relative loss occuring in the actual output power, caused by the two diodes forward voltage drops. I suggest using at least two 1000 uF (microfarad) 25V or 35V DC rated electrolytic capacitors for C1 and C2. I would use at least a good 10 Ohm resistor, not 1 Ohm to load the DC output of the voltage doubler so the 10 Ohm would be connected in parallel with capacitor C2.

I know the diodes will still cause some loss and to nearly compensate for this, the measured output DC voltage could be increased by say 1.2V (2 x 0.6V forward voltage drop) when calculating output power, this depends on your diodes.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: madddann on June 07, 2013, 06:56:36 PM

@Farmhand
Since you are not a moderator, that post will stay right where it is :P .

...and according to my calculations, the COP of this sistem is about 363%, which is about right for a Flynn paralell path system...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 07, 2013, 07:08:56 PM

Quote from: madddann on June 07, 2013, 06:56:36 PM
@Farmhand
Since you are not a moderator, that post will stay right where it is :P .

...and according to my calculations, the COP of this sistem is about 363%, which is about right for a Flynn paralell path system...

If I was a moderator it would be already gone, I was just giving my opinion and explaining why I posted. Take it as you wish.

..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 07, 2013, 07:17:05 PM

Quote from: br549 on June 07, 2013, 03:17:56 PM
Gyulasun: So if I use the same one OHM resistor and insert in series with the input, and measure the voltage across it (6.5 mv) and use the same calculation used on the output, (0.006.5² / 1= 0.00004225) than
the input current seems to be 0.042 ma, making the COP = .003/0.00004225 = 71 which doesn't seem right to me.

Just my 2 cents br549 but possibly the efficiency is low because there is no appropriate load, a 0.1 Ohm resistor is not really a good load. Maybe if you were to use a load at the output say maybe a 10 or 100 or even 1K resistor and use the current meter in series with the load and the secondary the efficiency would look better. Then it can also be checked by using the scope to measure the current across one of the resistors to get the voltage across the resistor then calculate the current from that using Ohms law.
EDIT: With AC currents the phase angle or power factor needs to be considered as well. Which usually works out in favor of a higher efficiency for the experimenters device, I thought I should add.

Also if the input is not affected by the output then the input will be always the same and always maximum so the way to get the best efficiency in such a setup is to load it appropriately so that the output better matches the input. It depends on the coupling and such things, if there is a path for energy to return to the supply or not ect.

Cheers

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: profitis on June 07, 2013, 07:38:39 PM

@farmhand,sure buddy,chek out my vid under heading,'self-charging cap' posted a few months ago on the uploads page.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 07, 2013, 08:29:23 PM

Quote from: profitis on June 07, 2013, 07:38:39 PM
@farmhand,sure buddy,chek out my vid under heading,'self-charging cap' posted a few months ago on the uploads page.

That's showing me nothing, I have no idea where to find that. If it's OU where is the hoopla. Show us the evidence.
If you wouldn't mind it would be good to link it here, this thread is appropriate. If you don't want to link it you have nothing to show as far as I am concerned.

No need to do anything to please me though only do it if you want to. But please realize I will give my opinion as I see it.

Cheers

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on June 07, 2013, 10:21:05 PM

Quote from: Farmhand on June 07, 2013, 08:29:23 PM
That's showing me nothing, I have no idea where to find that.

Self-charging pseudocapacitor in action.3gp Posted by: profitis March 22, 2013, 06:45:09 AM

http://www.overunity.com/downloads/sa/view/down/526/#.UbKUDpywUTU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: profitis on June 08, 2013, 01:56:07 PM

thanx @qwert.@farmhand,i cant post links with this phone but i,l tell you how to build a similar device with things lying around the home if you want then you will see.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 09, 2013, 02:32:12 AM

Quote from: Farmhand on June 06, 2013, 05:53:00 PM
That is right up there with one of the most illogical things I have ever read. Unity is how Nature works, energy cannot be created or destroyed the Universe is in Unity, always, it can be no other way, by sheer logic it must be true.

You can't show the creation of energy so what you wrote is simply your own crazy thoughts.

Show energy being created, or even just show a device producing more energy out than you put in, or you will end up looking like a complete liar and a fool.

You make claims and show no proof. In my opinion that's just saying stuff, where I come from it's called talking cr@p.

If anyone takes you seriously they need their head read. Of course you can talk all the Cr@p you want, there is no law against it unless you try to sell something fraudulently.

Keep going it's so ridiculous it's funny to read.

Cheers

ohhhh!!!!! :o what is this?! another bug? ;D

Cheers! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: br549 on June 09, 2013, 04:53:52 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on June 07, 2013, 06:03:23 PM
Br549,

No, I did not say your input power calculation was wrong. It was correct. (What you say as an example for the "input power" (0.006.5² / 1= 0.00004225) just gives the power dissipated in the 1 Ohm resistor due to the 6.37mA input current taken by the input coils, right? (the 6.37mA may have been 6.5mA now that you measured 6.5mV voltage drop across the 1 Ohm). The 6.5mV across it is not the input voltage to your transformer's input coils.

However, the 1 Ohm resistor directly across the output coil terminates the output, it is the load, just like your ammeter was in your video: with its 1 Ohm inner resistance the ammeter served also as a load of 1 Ohm. And in the video you measured 1.5V rms voltage across your ammeter terminals and later you measured 0.055V rms across an outside 1 Ohm resistor. How can you explain this? The 1 Ohm inner resistance of the ammeter and an outside 1 Ohm resistor should give the same load to the output coils, hence the rms voltages must be the same across both (within a few percent).

Gyula

Gyula:
I am cleaning up my setup, I will go through the measurement steps again. I will use a 1 ohm 5W resistor on both the input and output, and measure the voltage across them. I'm just about finished with a new H-Driver board that I hope will give a cleaner signal to the transformer, and will check the meters for accuracy, and do it again.
Thank you: br549

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on June 09, 2013, 05:00:08 PM

Hi,

Thanks for your efforts anyway and I hope you do not repeat or modify anything just because of my 'questionings' your measurements but because you also have found: something gives problems in measurements. And you may have found it.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: br549 on June 10, 2013, 05:46:18 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on June 09, 2013, 05:00:08 PM
Hi,

Thanks for your efforts anyway and I hope you do not repeat or modify anything just because of my 'questionings' your measurements but because you also have found: something gives problems in measurements. And you may have found it.

Gyula

The attached document shows my second test (didn't have time to do a video, I'll be away from my lab for the next week or so) . I replaced the power supply with battries. The new H-Bridge Driver works much better. (I used different FET Drivers: TC4420 (Rated at 6 amps)) with same oscillator circuit. Much cleaner output. Used a 1 ohms 5W resistor as a load on the transformer output and one in series with the transformer input . I also confirmed to accuracy of the 2 meters with a Martel IVC-222HP Certified Voltage and Current Sorce. They seem to be accurate, both voltage and current. At least on the DC scales.
Thankyou: br549

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: br549 on June 10, 2013, 05:55:59 PM

Quote from: br549 on June 10, 2013, 05:46:18 PM
The attached document shows my second test (didn't have time to do a video, I'll be away from my lab for the next week or so) . I replaced the power supply with battries. The new H-Bridge Driver works much better. (I used different FET Drivers: TC4420 (Rated at 6 amps)) with same oscillator circuit. Much cleaner output. Used a 1 ohms 5W resistor as a load on the transformer output and one in series with the transformer input . I also confirmed to accuracy of the 2 meters with a Martel IVC-222HP Certified Voltage and Current Sorce. They seem to be accurate, both voltage and current. At least on the DC scales.
Thankyou: br549

Sorry: Posted the wrong thing: This should be it:

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on June 10, 2013, 07:02:43 PM

Hi br549,

I think the output AC voltage amplitude across the H-bridge driver board's "output to transformer" pins should be known to estimate the input power to the transformer. What you show on the input voltage meter (7.4mV) it is the voltage drop across the 1 Ohm resistor (placed in series with the input) so the input current seems to be 7.4 mA. To learn about input power you need to know how much voltage drives 7.4 mA current into the primary coils.

I understand you supply the H-bridge with 4.5V DC from the 3 AA batteries but you need to measure the square wave's rms value across the "output to transformer" pins of the H bridge board and multiply it with the 7.4 mA input current to have an input power estimation.

I would suggest 2 things to evaluate input AC rms voltage.

You may wish to use the HP voltmeter which in the picture now shows the input current, just disconnect it from the 1 Ohm series input resistor (leave the resistor in series as it is now) and hook the HP up to the 2 pins of the H-board's "output to transformer".

And you may wish to check the AC rms input voltage by an oscilloscope too, across the H-board output pins, this could double check the input voltage.

Needless to say, the input current 7.4mA should not change during these measurements of course and no problem you will not see it during the input voltage measurement. However, please keep an eye on the output AC voltage (63.974 mV) because if it changes more than a 1-2 percent when you disconnect and then connect the HP voltmeter and/or the scope to the pins, it will be a good indication of grounding issues between the measuring instruments.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 14, 2013, 12:02:51 AM

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enjoy :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on June 16, 2013, 09:25:51 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 14, 2013, 12:02:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qip733SpPN8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qip733SpPN8)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO3zw1g85_c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO3zw1g85_c)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTE0G9amZNk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTE0G9amZNk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u67XId7DKfA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u67XId7DKfA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWGRxGIaMuU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWGRxGIaMuU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIUzt7tbFcg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIUzt7tbFcg)

enjoy :D

Man of steel muna Bro

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on June 17, 2013, 03:19:41 AM

@totoalas

Pare meron ka bang alam na software para malaman ang frequency ng isang pure tone sound? Sya nga pala maganda ba ung man of steel? :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on June 17, 2013, 04:32:10 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on June 17, 2013, 03:19:41 AM
@totoalas

Pare meron ka bang alam na software para malaman ang frequency ng isang pure tone sound? Sya nga pala maganda ba ung man of steel? :)

Chk mo helpful.waves.com
.si superman wall a .ng brief hehehe

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on June 17, 2013, 05:30:54 AM

@totoalas

D ko maopen ung link na binigay u. Si superman walang brief aba maganda yan. :)

@all

Is there anyone know a software that can show the frequency of a pure tone sound?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on June 17, 2013, 11:53:50 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on June 17, 2013, 05:30:54 AM
@totoalas

D ko maopen ung link na binigay u. Si superman walang brief aba maganda yan. :)

@all

Is there anyone know a software that can show the frequency of a pure tone sound?

helpfulwaves.com check mo sa google http://3d2f.com/tags/audio/frequency/measurement/ (http://3d2f.com/tags/audio/frequency/measurement/)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 17, 2013, 08:10:06 PM

Quote from: totoalas on June 17, 2013, 04:32:10 AM
Chk mo helpful.waves.com
.si superman wall a .ng brief hehehe

Meron naman uy, invisible nga lang. ;D bwa hahahahhahahhah lol

Alam nyo ba kung bakit invisible ang brief ni superman?, kase sa sobrang bilis nyang lumipad nag mutate ang atom ng damit nya luminaw. ;D

Yung unang superman naman sa sobrang bilis at lakas nyang lumipad tanggal ang brief nya kaya lumabas si zuma. ;D lol bwa hahhahahahahaha.

At alam nyo ba kung bakit mahigpit ang tali ng zuman?, lol ;D

At alam nyo ba kung bakit tinatali ang zuma ng mga super sireyna? lol ;D

at alam nyo bang sa sobrang bilis nya e bumangga sya sa sarili nya. lol ;D

Ang di ngumiti walang ngipin! ;D ;D ;D

titus l. noicaro strikes again lol bwa hahahahahahhahahaha ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 17, 2013, 08:49:01 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 17, 2013, 08:10:06 PM

bwa hahahahahahhahahaha ;D

BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA cough cough haha ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 17, 2013, 08:53:17 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 17, 2013, 08:49:01 PM
BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA cough cough haha ;D

:-\ ??? :P ;D

bwahahhahhhahaahhahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahhhahahhaha Ya lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 17, 2013, 08:56:03 PM

Also there is MOOHEHOOHAHAHAHAHAHA ! :o Or meh heh heh heeehhh. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on June 17, 2013, 08:57:20 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 17, 2013, 08:49:01 PM
BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA cough cough haha ;D

Thats what friends are for ( in good times and bad times ) by Stvie wonder

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 17, 2013, 08:59:05 PM

And BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (breath in) BAAAAHHH HAHAHAHAHAHA

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 17, 2013, 09:03:12 PM

Actually there are lots of style i can do like

Tahahahhahahahahhahahahahhhahahahahaha nga
Gahahahahahahahahahhhahahhahahhhahahahahhah go

joke lang hahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhaha lol

you made me laugh a little, and because of that, here is my gift you all review this:

;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 17, 2013, 09:27:48 PM

;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 18, 2013, 02:50:21 AM

O wonder about "strange factors about toroidal transformers.Any tip ? Do you have a picture how is magnetic field shaped around such transformer and where are the poles ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on June 18, 2013, 11:10:19 AM

Quote from: forest on June 18, 2013, 02:50:21 AM
O wonder about "strange factors about toroidal transformers.Any tip ? Do you have a picture how is magnetic field shaped around such transformer and where are the poles ?

Do magetic poles collide inside the toroid? Or spin chasing each other? ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 19, 2013, 12:19:23 AM

I found this part below from Titos pdf interesting. I dont really understand the kicks. But I do get the 1000ft wire thing I think.

What it seems like he is saying is, lets say we have 1 wire 12in and 1 wire 24in. If we induce only 12in of the 24in wire we should get only as much as we would from the 12in wire being affected by the same. But if we induce the whole 24in wire we should get more out, being that we have more in.

One of the things Ive been playing with lately is trying to get pulse motor windings to be fully affected by the magnets field instead of just 1/2 of the coil on the magnets approach then the other half as the magnet passes tdc of the coil. Here is the reason Im trying to accomplish this.

If the approaching magnet mostly or only affects the 1 half of the coil, what ever emf that is produced has to fight against the self induction of the other side of the coil that hasnt been induced by the magnet yet. Unless there is a magnet of opposite magnetic polarity in place on the rotor that is leaving the coil while the other mag is approaching. But we will still have the top and the bottom of the coil that wont be induced by either magnet because those parts of the winding are partially in line with the field motion of the rotating magnet. ??? So how do we get the rotor magnet to induce all of the wire of the coil without having dead spots where self induction in those areas of the coil that impedes what we are trying to induce? I dont know if it means anything or not yet.

The pics below are of 2 air(pvc :P ) stators that encircle the whole rotor. The fine wire stator ring is single filar and the other ring is bifi wound. So 1 long wire for the fine wire and 2 long wires wound together on the other. The fine wire winding was done minimally for testing against a full winding ill do on that ring after.

Havnt tested them yet. Gunna try one tonight. The way the windings go is from a starting point I zig zag the wire till IM back at the start, then instead of continuing around, I just loop around the last post and zig zag the other way back to the beginning. If I just continue around, only the tops of half of the posts will have windings and just the bottoms of the others. A reversal at the start covers all bases equally. ;) If just the tops of some and the bottoms of others are covered by just continuing winding around, the pushes and pulls on the rotor by those could cause up and down tensions on the rotor, even though the are evenly spaced out, mags are not all the same, even from the same batch.

Whats interesting about the tops and the bottom windings is that they do play a part in pulling and pushing the rotor but virtually no generation in the windings being they are inline with the rotating magnetic fields. ;) ;) So here we have the ability to rotate the rotor but the magnets dont affect the windings as they would in a conventional motor. That would be true if I figure out a way to make the vertical portions of the windings go away. Got some ideas. ;) Dont know if there are advantages there yet. Kinda like delayed lenz gen but the other way around. Ill explain more if any of that is not understood. ;D

Another thing IM thinking about is to make portions of the windings that are not affected by the passing magnets to not have self inductance, such as the tops and the bottoms of the posts by creating a winding scheme that has currents in half of the wires on top and the bottoms going in one direction and the other half in the other direction thereby eliminating self induction in those areas. Then the only portions of the winding that will be affected by the rotor or parts that will affect the rotor are the wires in the vertical slots. I realize that there will be a lot of wire on the tops an the bottoms that will be wasted and just add resistance, but currents should flow freely beyond the resistance by eliminating self inductance in the dead zones of the winding. Like trying to get a gen coil to pump AC currents to a load while having an inductor in series with the gen coil. Or trying to capture coil collapse currents with an inductor in series with the diode and cap. It doesnt work well. ;)

Anyways, Im gunna git. Will make a vid of the motor in the next day or so. I think the motor should accelerate pretty good being that all mags of the rotor will be pushed and pulled every pulse. Will see. ;D

31. If you had a short wire and you move the magnet across it, you would always
have limited potential because the length of the wire was so short.
Ok, now what if we increase the length of the wire to many miles in length ,
even with a very weak magnetic field moving across the wire you still have a
much greater potential flow of power available.
If we out it into perspective of power per inch, it may be easier to understand.
If you have a small magnetic field moving across a wire 12 inches long, it can
generate an electron flow equal to let's say 1 milivolt per inch.
If you move the magnetic 12 inches at the same speed , you get 12 milivolts
as you transgress the 12 inches of wire.
Understand that I am trying to convey a principle that you can understand for
use in the future.
So you have a wire 12 inches long, and you can make 12 milivolts moving a
magnet across it.
If you have a wire 1000 feet long and you move the same small magnetic
field across the length of it, you can create much more voltage potential
perhaps 12,000 milivolts let's say.
So, you have managed to generate a significant amount of electric power
with a weak magnetic force.
Ok, how does this help us? Where am I going with this?
Suppose you have 1000 pieces of wire 12 inches long and you run the same
weak magnetic field over them all at the same time....... You get the same
flow of electrons.
If the wires are run in series , then you will get the 12,000 milivolts etc.
If you connect the wires in parallel, you will get a higher current but lower
voltage.
However, the power potential is the same whether you run the wires in series
or parallel.
32. If you know how to find a circuit potential, you tune into the frequency and
you have enough short pieces of wire you can convert as much power as you
wish in a given space.
33. How it IS POSSIBLE to use what appears to be a weak magnetic force to
generate large usable amounts of power.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on June 19, 2013, 01:29:03 AM

Text version of steven mark conversation.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on June 19, 2013, 02:15:23 AM

::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 24, 2013, 03:51:52 AM

Quote from: forest on June 18, 2013, 02:50:21 AM
O wonder about "strange factors about toroidal transformers.Any tip ? Do you have a picture how is magnetic field shaped around such transformer and where are the poles ?

The magnetic field rotate in the ring = efficient ;) , no field strength is wasted.

The poles i think is from the top and end of the driving coil. :)

But our interest must be in the middle were the full strength is residing. and our aim is to make that strong using only little energy. 8)

ok!

Lets say we have a fully charged caps, if we make, make/break very fast, the caps will not fully discharge, and we can replenish it and back charge it in just one very fast make/break ok?

note: this technique is one side of the secret of tesla and its not anymore secret, it is fully showed in many tesla's patent.

another note: verrrrrry faaaaast make break.

Imagine we can make a lot of energy in just a very small chunks and that's truth. :)

Try to review the controller of tesla the material he used and look how fast he can make his make/break technique. ;)

i can compare this in one kicking of the bicycle, one kick and we can make a lot of rotation or make long distance from point of start. 8)

Actually there is no very special to the other side, its just really a common sense, believe me guys. ;)
Well, there is really a very little trick in the coil on how will you coil it. ;)

But i believe You can do it. ;)

Hope that everyone is not anymore mad at me now. :-*

Thank you and God bless everyone.

By the way, my little baby boy Elijah is getting cuter and cuter everyday. :D

i hope all of you will become my compadre including wilby. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 24, 2013, 10:49:18 AM

Tito, one question if you mind. Which one coil need to be ordinary wound ? primary or secondary ? I'm stuck with electronics , have to find a way to the fastest possible charge of capacitor (low ESR) aka make & break part I ;) The whole concept is clear and simple and I see it for over 2 years now but actual implementation still lags....and I'm not sure if this OU is by nature law we didn't understood or simply there is the inflow of external energy on resonance.....this is bothering me.

Kinda very easy idea, guys if you realize that the only real method of rising amperage is by fast capacitor discharge , exactly like Tesla mentioned.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 24, 2013, 10:41:56 PM

Quote from: forest on June 24, 2013, 10:49:18 AM
Tito, one question if you mind. Which one coil need to be ordinary wound ? primary or secondary ? I'm stuck with electronics , have to find a way to the fastest possible charge of capacitor (low ESR) aka make & break part I ;) The whole concept is clear and simple and I see it for over 2 years now but actual implementation still lags....and I'm not sure if this OU is by nature law we didn't understood or simply there is the inflow of external energy on resonance.....this is bothering me.

Kinda very easy idea, guys if you realize that the only real method of rising amperage is by fast capacitor discharge , exactly like Tesla mentioned.

Well, in primary it is best to do it in thick awg bifi and secondary is arbitrary and they were done in one purpose.

Ya, you try to connect and disconnect the caps, i mean very fast and it will not discharge all the juice. if you can make many make and break. then that's it. all you need then is how will you make your coil very efficient. isn't that simple guys?. its a piece of cake. ;)

Its like answering how many make/break you can do in just one fully charge caps? ;) 8)

ok!, let me illustrate it this way, let say for example you have your oxygen and there is only 1 minute to use it and will take you one hour to get you up from the bottom of the sea, then what will you do. i think that is self explanatory. ;D

HOW LONG CAN YOU HOLD YOUR BREATHE? ;D , WELL ME CAN DO IT IN 2- 3 MINUTES AND THAT IS MY MAXIMUM! ;D

LET ME HEAR YOUR SOLUTION AND I'LL TELL YOU MINE. ;) 8)

etits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 25, 2013, 03:18:44 AM

Tito

I very much like you , so I will be clear what I have in my mind for more then 3 years now , and I know I can't be mistaken as the whole concept , only the implementation is still not working due to my bad ability to construct such devices (well, any devices :( )

This is all about reactive power or rather the resonant power.Background (as I understood it) : If you have AC circuit the reactive power is the resonant condition which occur sometimes when elements match LC tank circuit (like wire inductance and capacitance) - in normal AC reactive power goes back to power source heating transmission lines with harmonics (maybe also intermodulation of waves ?) . Surely we have to eliminate it ...

So we have to charge capacitor bank and discharge into a coil having low resistance to create tank circuit of high Q factor so the reactive power inside will be huge while there is no connection to escape , because power source would be disconnected ! (or capacitor would be a power source)

Yes, famous Tom Bearden picture of degenerative semiconductor !

Like you said : take one breath and hold on.

Then ou is simply to have a second coil near such tank circuit , which will tap power converting reactive into active.

I hope we would construct Hubbard generator together oneday soon, that's my dream. What do you think about it ? I like this idea!

btw this concept has a huge flaw which is the make & break controller itself as you know. I bet we can eliminate it !!!!! However first I must learn how to walk before run, and I have no experience in electronics like you (probably) have.

I planned to patent my device and maybe it will happen but not soon, I still believe you can patent device but not the concept, while in patent the concept should be clearly stated. It is not so because every devices work on the same concept already patented before WWII or ealier.

One thing is clear : energy comes out as always from magnetic field and Faraday law of induction.

But there is more about this which I'm not yet ready to discuss....Just think about the lenz-free transformer applied to 50Hz AC source. Is there the energy transfer from primary to secondary or a copy of energy created on secondary ? <---- BIG and WEIRD QUESTION

No matter if there is energy transfer or "something else" such lenz-free transformer is still only 100% efficient without resonant circuits on primary and/or secondary - think about it! think hard !

I still can't find the explanation why things when hit start to vibrate, and I'm still delightfully surprised by this phenomena which joins gravity and electromagnetism into one realm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on June 25, 2013, 01:50:51 PM

ok!, let me illustrate it this way, let say for example you have your oxygen and there is only 1 minute to use it and will take you one hour to get you up from the bottom of the sea, then what will you do. i think that is self explanatory. ;D

HOW LONG CAN YOU HOLD YOUR BREATHE? ;D , WELL ME CAN DO IT IN 2- 3 MINUTES AND THAT IS MY MAXIMUM! ;D

LET ME HEAR YOUR SOLUTION AND I'LL TELL YOU MINE. ;) 8)

etits ;D

aS Ryzza said Better die struggling than thinking on how to breath which is next to impossible.....
Think like a fish and swim like a fish ...... do you think the same as what im thinking lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 25, 2013, 10:19:57 PM

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

ok here is my solution: well, obviously you need to chunk the oxygen for efficiently usage ok?, good!, and

Many times i carry big plastic bag with me when i take diving then i have to fill that plastic bag first to lift me up faster and that's automatic, and in that sense
i will not anymore use lot of effort to use my feet and hands for feedling, and will just use them for control right. 8) :) ;)

its automatic jetmatic success!!!!!! 8) bwa hhahhahahahahh heehhehhh heeihh ;D

got that? simply simple just need some common sense right? but really effective way. ;) lol

just relax and see a movie till you get up ok ;D ;D ;D hahahhahahahhoooooouuuiiiiihhhh ;D ;D ;D

Now!, will you still ask me if it will make you float faster, i mean very fast? :-\ :o :o ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 25, 2013, 11:37:06 PM

Mooheeheehoohahahahaha

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 26, 2013, 07:12:49 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 25, 2013, 11:37:06 PM
Mooheeheehoohahahahaha

guag gwag gwag gwahahahahahahhahahahoughhik :D

ngekngekngekngokngokngohokhokhokhahahahhahahahhahahahaha ;D

ahig ahig ahig hok hikoughikhik :D

Try to say or think a name of a country wherein your tongue must not be moving. :D tongue relaxation. :P ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on June 26, 2013, 10:53:54 AM

Otits
Theres an ordinance on the PLASTIc BAN tsk tsk tsk
Just watch super Sireyna ok ;) ;)

Have u tried ur idea in manila burak bay hihihi

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 26, 2013, 11:40:54 AM

ah, what a nice speed up when you have your bag Tito ;D you are like torpedo ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 26, 2013, 12:31:48 PM

If your primary is series-wound-bifilar, and your secondary is a single strand coil, then the primary will affect the secondary (which we want), but there will be very little effect from the secondary back to the primary. I'm just not sure where to put the caps, but I think that can be figured out by experimentation.
See: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-321.html#post233882 (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-321.html#post233882)

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 26, 2013, 12:33:56 PM

Quote from: forest on June 26, 2013, 11:40:54 AM
ah, what a nice speed up when you have your bag Tito ;D you are like torpedo ;D ;D ;D

Maybe we should call this apparatus the Tito Torpedo 8) ;D 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 26, 2013, 02:30:54 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on June 26, 2013, 12:31:48 PM
If your primary is series-wound-bifilar, and your secondary is a single strand coil, then the primary will affect the secondary (which we want), but there will be very little effect from the secondary back to the primary. I'm just not sure where to put the caps, but I think that can be figured out by experimentation.
See: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-321.html#post233882 (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-321.html#post233882)

Bob

That's the problem how to prove it (I mean in theory of course ) ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 26, 2013, 06:58:51 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on June 26, 2013, 12:33:56 PM
Maybe we should call this apparatus the Tito Torpedo 8) ;D 8)

No!, we call it Titorotot ;D 8) 8) 8) ;D

@totoalas
no! i'm using organic plastic bag. ;D

well, we can maybe survive there, but in fresh bacteria, fresh poo poo, fresh i i and fresh fetus, i don't think so. ;D lol
kakaiba talaga tyong pinoy, tinatapon lang naten ang mga fetus. ;D wala sila nyan. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 27, 2013, 10:15:41 AM

Quote from: forest on June 24, 2013, 10:49:18 AM

Kinda very easy idea, guys if you realize that the only real method of rising amperage is by fast capacitor discharge , exactly like Tesla mentioned.

The only real method ?!
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A)

Anybody tried to amplify with nichrome coil bundels ?

Wmkr
CdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 27, 2013, 11:52:14 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 27, 2013, 10:15:41 AM

The only real method ?!
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A)

Anybody tried to amplify with nichrome coil bundels ?

Wmkr
CdL

It's interesting but how it could work ? Full patent text is needed to analyse because the picture is wrong or missing some important feature of such bundle.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2013, 09:45:55 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 27, 2013, 10:15:41 AM

The only real method ?!
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A)

Anybody tried to amplify with nichrome coil bundels ?

Wmkr
CdL

hmmmmm, good info why not? ;)

oh how simple it is to have free energy. ;) 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMdS65_E_X4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMdS65_E_X4)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfFO-BGg1IM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfFO-BGg1IM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7SkE5pERtA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7SkE5pERtA)

This is impressive but..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3x_kYq3mHM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 07, 2013, 07:43:43 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyvfDzRLsiU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyvfDzRLsiU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNRDvDIqD1M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNRDvDIqD1M)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUmE_oJMA5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUmE_oJMA5c)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cOjZVi8BT8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cOjZVi8BT8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htObjxzwLBQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htObjxzwLBQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZnZ6BJwvv8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZnZ6BJwvv8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G793FBTauAQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G793FBTauAQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-OY0KxRdgQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-OY0KxRdgQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I-dZhxiEP8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I-dZhxiEP8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frL2DkMM09Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frL2DkMM09Y)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8geKJQGNwKM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8geKJQGNwKM)

enjoy :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 09, 2013, 09:06:58 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyvfDzRLsiU
;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on July 10, 2013, 10:53:05 AM

E=MC² = Free Energy

But how can we convert mass directly into electricity?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 11, 2013, 06:21:32 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 09, 2013, 09:06:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyvfDzRLsiU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyvfDzRLsiU)
;)

Ya!, i believe this is how planets are arranged by GOD. really supreme genius GOD. and not just accident. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Johan_1955 on July 11, 2013, 06:32:40 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 11, 2013, 06:21:32 AM

Ya!, i believe this is how planets are arranged by GOD. really supreme genius GOD. and not just accident. ;)

Dear Tito,

Great thinking, next step is: http://www.crystalinks.com/hollowearth.html

Regards, Johan

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 18, 2013, 05:32:59 PM

energy amplification or aether amplification

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 23, 2013, 04:10:54 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCGTNArwJ0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCGTNArwJ0s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzW0--FMbVg&feature=endscreen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzW0--FMbVg&feature=endscreen)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo73UtaDY6Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo73UtaDY6Y)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCjYZT6FJm4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCjYZT6FJm4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_50RuMcc28 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_50RuMcc28)

Simplicity is the best policy

enjoy ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 22, 2013, 10:53:49 AM

From Andrzej Wojcik :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NhCr4s-sMA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NhCr4s-sMA)

Sincerely
CdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on August 23, 2013, 11:10:18 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on August 22, 2013, 10:53:49 AM
From Andrzej Wojcik :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NhCr4s-sMA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NhCr4s-sMA)

Sincerely
CdL

Unfortunately, it has all indications of just another HOAX: the video has only one purpose: to make money on youtube visitors volume.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 28, 2013, 02:35:26 AM

;D hi everyday its nice to be back ;D don't worry i'm just crossing. ;)

fish be with you ;)

is there any development here about all tips i gave to all of you?.
or maybe you do not want to share it, isn't it? :D

Sorry everyou cause i've been busy with my baby elijah. :D

by the way to dave45, i also saw the star of david in the coral castle of ED ledskalnin, it seems that its really an anti gravity project, hmmmmmm ;)

Ismael aviso is kicking some kilos of weight in the air. ;)

and to distort weight, we should modify the attracting flux of the earth or put them all in the middle of the load and make a kick in the middle. hmmmm ;)

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 28, 2013, 02:56:31 AM

Quote from: Johan_1955 on July 11, 2013, 06:32:40 AM

Dear Tito,

Great thinking, next step is: http://www.crystalinks.com/hollowearth.html (http://www.crystalinks.com/hollowearth.html)

Regards, Johan

Well, i believe in hollowblock and holloween but in hollowearth, i'm not yet sure. ??? :-\ joke ;D

i think there is something hollow in some part of the earth but i believe no one wish to live there cause its too dark off course. :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 28, 2013, 02:59:44 AM

Quote from: Qwert on August 23, 2013, 11:10:18 AM
Unfortunately, it has all indications of just another HOAX: the video has only one purpose: to make money on youtube visitors volume.

Do not judge until proven guilty okay! ;D ;)

You you! >:( ;D

how sure you are buddy? :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 28, 2013, 03:15:08 AM

This is amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEH6tDLKcVU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEH6tDLKcVU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPlZ_AqCvGw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPlZ_AqCvGw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU2iTUeCfkI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU2iTUeCfkI)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on August 28, 2013, 12:28:52 PM

Otits
Earth is changing its polarity already from N to S ;D
so when will your tech coming out ..... Pnoy will be your savior no more Pork lechon liempo needed :) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2013, 07:36:12 PM

Quote from: totoalas on August 28, 2013, 12:28:52 PM
Otits
Earth is changing its polarity already from N to S ;D
so when will your tech coming out ..... Pnoy will be your savior no more Pork lechon liempo needed :) 8)

oh! :o i didn't notice it. how about you? ;)

don't worry beef is available. ;D

i don't have plan yet for coming out, like what i always said i'm a peaceful man ;) man of fish, like man of steel ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 01, 2013, 08:03:04 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2013, 07:36:12 PM

oh! :o i didn't notice it. how about you? ;)

don't worry beef is available. ;D

i don't have plan yet for coming out, like what i always said i'm a peaceful man ;) man of fish, like man of steel ;D

at least ur constant with ur talk the walk and not wack talky salute to that bro

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2013, 11:29:39 PM

Quote from: totoalas on September 01, 2013, 08:03:04 PM
at least ur constant with ur talk the walk and not wack talky salute to that bro

Well, i'm just being truthful to everyone and that is truth or throat. :D

pre bigyan mo nga ako ng magandang idea para pagkakitaan ito ng mabilis at sigurado na di magiging delikado ang pamilya o buhay ko.

kahit papano di naman basta basta tong nadiskubri ko e, syempre gusto ko rin kumita. at yon ang di naiintindihan ng mga kasama natin dito. gusto nila bigay ko lahat e, anu sila siniswerti. ;D

Talong taon din ang ginugol ko sa pag reresearch ko dito kahit papano. :)

Ps. alam mo bang napolis si napoles?. corny no? hehehehheehh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2013, 11:41:15 PM

By the highway.

i just have a doubt about using hho. because water is accumulating inside the engine there should have a modification about that, cause water is mixing with the oil and if that happens off course heat will rise and your engine will be destroyed. :)

ok! here is my explanation.

The result of the explosion of hho is water right? then some will go outside but some will accumulate inside the crank case at the bottom part of it and incidentally our oil pump will suck at the bottom part of the crank case where oil resides and since oil float at the water then there were a time that water will grow and problem will occur into thinking that water will be use as oil by the engine. got it? 8)

And that's truth or throat ;D

did you saw that everyone? 8) ;) ;D

Noicaro L. Otit ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 02, 2013, 12:15:02 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2013, 11:41:15 PM
By the highway.

i just have a doubt about using hho. because water is accumulating inside the engine there should have a modification about that, cause water is mixing with the oil and if that happens off course heat will rise and your engine will be destroyed. :)

Burning gasoline produces water also, along with other things. ;) Ever see water coming from a tail pipe? ;) Some people are spraying water mist into the intake for more power output. So I dont think there would be much harm. ;D Just change the oil more frequently if need be.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 02, 2013, 12:23:07 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 02, 2013, 12:15:02 AM
Burning gasoline produces water also, along with other things. ;) Ever see water coming from a tail pipe? ;) Some people are spraying water mist into the intake for more power output. So I dont think there would be much harm. ;D Just change the oil more frequently if need be.

Mags

If you are having a problem with water in the oil, maybe your piston rings are leaking. Also steam can be a problem in the gas created in the cell. I see guys out there that use a bubbler which may reduce the steam, also a water separator, like used in compressed air lines for painting and such. Also, if perhaps all the fuel, hho, is not burning, which would seem improbable, but anything is possible, then the H and the H and the O on their own could affect parts of the engine badly.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 02, 2013, 12:28:00 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 02, 2013, 12:15:02 AM
Burning gasoline produces water also, along with other things. ;) Ever see water coming from a tail pipe? ;) Some people are spraying water mist into the intake for more power output. So I dont think there would be much harm. ;D Just change the oil more frequently if need be.

Mags

WEll, frequent change oil maybe a good solution but is it still in cheap state if that is the case. i don't think so ;)

and if you forgot, the danger is just around the corner right. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 02, 2013, 12:34:14 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 02, 2013, 12:23:07 AM
If you are having a problem with water in the oil, maybe your piston rings are leaking. Also steam can be a problem in the gas created in the cell. I see guys out there that use a bubbler which may reduce the steam, also a water separator, like used in compressed air lines for painting and such. Also, if perhaps all the fuel, hho, is not burning, which would seem improbable, but anything is possible, then the H and the H and the O on their own could affect parts of the engine badly.

Mags

Ya, anything is possible, all what i'm saying is some brilliant modification. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 02, 2013, 12:11:53 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2013, 11:29:39 PM

Well, i'm just being truthful to everyone and that is truth or throat. :D

pre bigyan mo nga ako ng magandang idea para pagkakitaan ito ng mabilis at sigurado na di magiging delikado ang pamilya o buhay ko.

kahit papano di naman basta basta tong nadiskubri ko e, syempre gusto ko rin kumita. at yon ang di naiintindihan ng mga kasama natin dito. gusto nila bigay ko lahat e, anu sila siniswerti. ;D
Meron mag start tayo sa divine guidance para we have all the moves 10 steps ahead of them... remember the kings who seek guidance thru their elders...... yan ang wala sila na meron tayo.... pm mo lang ako at baka matulungan kita ..... mahirap magsalita ng tapos ..... kaya natin yan ng may pag iingat at walang peligro sa buhay mo....
we can tap 4 million ofws or 1 million netizens in a snap or like button... you what I mean...

totoalas

Ps. alam mo bang napolis si napoles?. corny no? hehehehheehh sakit ng corrupt wheelchair lang katapat nyan hehehe

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 02, 2013, 12:23:12 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2013, 11:41:15 PM
By the highway.

i just have a doubt about using hho. because water is accumulating inside the engine there should have a modification about that, cause water is mixing with the oil and if that happens off course heat will rise and your engine will be destroyed. :)

ok! here is my explanation.

The result of the explosion of hho is water right? then some will go outside but some will accumulate inside the crank case at the bottom part of it and incidentally our oil pump will suck at the bottom part of the crank case where oil resides and since oil float at the water then there were a time that water will grow and problem will occur into thinking that water will be use as oil by the engine. got it? 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvgg_K_5cGE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvgg_K_5cGE)

Forget HHO and lets get physical este electrical with ur stuff
Check GT 111 EV made in Philippines using abaca fiber and fiberglass for the case and EV tech from US
with my 500 rpm pulse motor @ 6 watts 12 v ...I can magnetically couple this with a dc generator to run a bicycle or wheelchair without the need for charging station ( loop or solar/ regenerative / capacitve to top off the charge) Work in progress
totoalas :) 8)

And that's truth or throat ;D

did you saw that everyone? 8) ;) ;D

Noicaro L. Otit ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 05, 2013, 07:25:57 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 07, 2013, 06:50:35 AM
Hi totoalas,

I show you a schematic where diode D1 charges C2 when you switch S1 off and diode D2 charges C1 when you switch S2 off. It all depends on wire end connections and / or winding sense of coils, it is good to use terminal block for doing easy variations.

I include another schematic to check in a simply way how much voltage can be captured in C2 when you switch S1 off. Just charge up C1 to start this test and for S1 just use the (black-dotted) wire end of coil L1. Start with say 10 or 15V DC in C1 and monitor the voltage across C2, try to touch coil wire end to the positive of C1 for a very short time you can so that some Volts may still remain in C1. Of course you can leave S1 on for a full discharge of C1 and see the induced voltage in C2 in that case too.
Your new capacitors are able to keep the charge for a reasonable time? (unlike your 2200uF ones), it is also good idea to monitor the voltage across C1 if it is needed (not a must) and you have two voltmeters.

rgds, Gyula

Going back to test the circuit again with lindermans pwm cap charger where no hv from ignition coil and the other from ground pipe / middle are the two circuit S1 S2
i have the parts now and time to play again
thanks to Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tinman on September 06, 2013, 08:47:11 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2013, 11:41:15 PM
By the highway.

i just have a doubt about using hho. because water is accumulating inside the engine there should have a modification about that, cause water is mixing with the oil and if that happens off course heat will rise and your engine will be destroyed. :)

ok! here is my explanation.

The result of the explosion of hho is water right? then some will go outside but some will accumulate inside the crank case at the bottom part of it and incidentally our oil pump will suck at the bottom part of the crank case where oil resides and since oil float at the water then there were a time that water will grow and problem will occur into thinking that water will be use as oil by the engine. got it? 8)

And that's truth or throat ;D

did you saw that everyone? 8) ;) ;D

Noicaro L. Otit ;D

Incorrect in all cases.
Water will not accumulate in the bottom of the sump,when using HHO as a fuel. How do i know-because i have run many engine's on HHO for the past 6 years,and not once did water contaminate the engine oil.
The burn of HHO dose not turn back to water as such within the combustion chamber,but exit's the exaust as steam-the very same thing happens on a cold foggy morning when you first start your car.It will pump water out the exaust until running temp has been reached-do you get any water in your oil then?.
Once your engine warms up to running temp,any moisture in the oil is evaporated off,and returns back to the inlet of the engine via the PCV valve,or simple exausted out into the atmostphere-in the case of older style engines.

So no-HHO will NOT contaminate the engine oil in way of water contamination.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 06, 2013, 09:50:38 AM

http://youtu.be/a26iyk2sirQ (http://youtu.be/a26iyk2sirQ)

SPARK GAP PULSE MOTOR

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 07, 2013, 01:58:14 PM

http://youtu.be/6fhFjli6xDU (http://youtu.be/6fhFjli6xDU)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 08, 2013, 07:04:45 PM

Update on my test
1. If left disconnected the ignition coil, the led lamp is still flashing at a slow rate with earth connected plus the open ended secondary coil
2. When connected to output of pulse circuit
a. When I removed the earth and tap the core of the bottom e core / primary the v rise to 1400 and the 500 v ac scale in my meter is like going to explode with rattling noise
Also the open circuit in the secondary give rise to 1.6 A in the input and radiant energy increased when the ac pen tester was used
3. When on normal loading of seconary one end open the other end connected to earth the led lamp is 60 % brighter with 56 v ac
the upper ( secondary) and bottom e core registered 146 v ac ( when loaded with cfl - flashing ) measured 110 v ac and the secondary lamp load increased brightness to 75 %
This test is only using a 12 v relay as spark gap without PWM
Im thinking of pulsing the hv to the bottom primary e core but to setp down the v to 220 v ac is another thing
Also the gap of the relay contacts is too small that the arc is always on and no/ nc contact is useless for pulsing
the best is to use my pulse motor for the switching using reed switch and see the result
:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 08, 2013, 10:51:08 PM

Quote from: tinman on September 06, 2013, 08:47:11 AM
Incorrect in all cases.
Water will not accumulate in the bottom of the sump,when using HHO as a fuel. How do i know-because i have run many engine's on HHO for the past 6 years,and not once did water contaminate the engine oil.
The burn of HHO dose not turn back to water as such within the combustion chamber,but exit's the exaust as steam-the very same thing happens on a cold foggy morning when you first start your car.It will pump water out the exaust until running temp has been reached-do you get any water in your oil then?.
Once your engine warms up to running temp,any moisture in the oil is evaporated off,and returns back to the inlet of the engine via the PCV valve,or simple exausted out into the atmostphere-in the case of older style engines.

So no-HHO will NOT contaminate the engine oil in way of water contamination.

hmmmmmmmmmm, ;) I think you are correct sir, THANK YOU!!!

How about the problem about rust, since we are dealing of water inside the engine?.
Are we going to change some parts into stainless sir? :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 08, 2013, 11:23:33 PM

Some youtuberr has made an autopsy of his car after 2 yrs with hho only to find out its carbon free and mechanic has nothing to do a nam20 yr old car i think high temperature combustion rate that only water drops came out of exhaust

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 09, 2013, 08:00:02 AM

http://youtu.be/yQYU_5Cx6yE (http://youtu.be/yQYU_5Cx6yE)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 14, 2013, 07:47:44 AM

http://youtu.be/FSdmgdW8bGU

Otits BEAT IT by Michael Jackson heheheh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 14, 2013, 09:57:17 PM

Quote from: totoalas on September 14, 2013, 07:47:44 AM
http://youtu.be/FSdmgdW8bGU

Otits BEAT IT by Michael Jackson heheheh

28 Hours of 40 w lighting without external power source and using only resonant transformer so ZERO input currrent as of posting from 630 am yesterday up to today 1030 am all lights are still on

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 14, 2013, 10:04:28 PM

Quote from: totoalas on September 14, 2013, 09:57:17 PM
28 Hours of 40 w lighting without external power source and using only resonant transformer so ZERO input currrent as of posting from 630 am yesterday up to today 1030 am all lights are still on

:o :o ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on September 15, 2013, 12:40:17 AM

Quote from: totoalas on September 14, 2013, 09:57:17 PM
28 Hours of 40 w lighting without external power source and using only resonant transformer so ZERO input currrent as of posting from 630 am yesterday up to today 1030 am all lights are still on

Congratulations,TOTO!!! ;D .

You need to document what you did so we can try to replicate. Thank you

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 15, 2013, 01:17:11 AM

Thanks to gyulasin and all here in OU and the challeng set by Otits :)
http://youtu.be/mtxeynJ4UcA (http://youtu.be/mtxeynJ4UcA)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on September 15, 2013, 04:42:31 AM

Hi totoalas,

Would like to ask if you disconnect the ground wire from your working circuit (when input current is still OFF) then do the LED lights go OFF?
There is light blue color capacitor next to the relay with a white LED on a shelf (above the rotor), it is this cap which has the 167V in it? and the big black cap (2200 uF 450V) has 287V in it, right? And what voltage is in the big light gray cap 33000 uF 63V)?

Which cap do you think is in resonance with the transformer coil? If it is resonance, there must be AC voltage swing across it too, can you indicate it with an AC voltage meter (not measure because most digital AC meters good for 50/60 Hz sinusoid voltage or current).

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on September 15, 2013, 04:56:04 AM

Hi totoalas,

I have just seen your latest short video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtxeynJ4UcA&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtxeynJ4UcA&feature=youtu.be) ) in which you said you would not change anything in your working setup till the buildoff lasts. Yes, I agree with you and what I asked above to disconnect the ground wire is to be postponed then. I think the ground wire is a must in this setup, perhaps Tito could confirm whether his setup also uses a ground wire or not?
Some time later you may wish to make a real schematics from your total setup 8) :)

rgds, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 15, 2013, 08:05:00 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on September 15, 2013, 04:42:31 AM
Hi totoalas,

Would like to ask if you disconnect the ground wire from your working circuit (when input current is still OFF) then do the LED lights go OFF? YES THEY ACT AS NEUTRAL AND BLEW THE LEDS IN MY 220 V AC RELAY 3 SINGLE LEDS I THINK IS FOR 3 V DC ONLY

There is light blue color capacitor next to the relay with a white LED on a shelf (above the rotor), it is this cap which has the 167V in it? NO 8 V DC ONLY
and the big black cap (2200 uF 450V) has 287V in it, right? NO 167 V DC
And what voltage is in the big light gray cap 33000 uF 63V)? 287 V DC

Which cap do you think is in resonance with the transformer coil? BLACK AND GREY SINCE THEY HAVE STEADY VOLTAGE WHEN I PLACED THE LOAD
If it is resonance, there must be AC voltage swing across it too, YES
can you indicate it with an AC voltage meter (not measure because most digital AC meters good for 50/60 Hz sinusoid voltage or current). ONE METER DC SCALE WAS DAMAGED FROM 20 TO 500 V DC SCALE
tHE SINGLE 5 WATT LOAD 220 V AC LED BULB MEASURED 163 V AC STEADY WITH ADDITIONAL 7 LAMPS

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 15, 2013, 08:11:49 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on September 15, 2013, 04:56:04 AM
Hi totoalas,

I have just seen your latest short video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtxeynJ4UcA&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtxeynJ4UcA&feature=youtu.be) ) in which you said you would not change anything in your working setup till the buildoff lasts. Yes, I agree with you and what I asked above to disconnect the ground wire is to be postponed then. I think the ground wire is a must in this setup, perhaps Tito could confirm whether his setup also uses a ground wire or not?
Some time later you may wish to make a real schematics from your total setup 8) :)

rgds, Gyula

iM STILL GAZING AT IT WITH DISBELIEF IM TEMPTED TO ADD MORE LOAD BUT LIKE I SAID LET THE PMBO FINISHED BY 25TH WHILE I START DOCUMENTING THE DETAILS AND QUESTIONS IN MY HEAD WHY ALL LOAD GOT 100 % BRIGHTNESS
THANKS AGAIN
TITO SALAMAT BRO

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on September 15, 2013, 08:54:01 AM

Hi totoalas,

Thanks for the answers and is not it strange that a 63V DC rated capacitor has 287 V DC across it? IT is ok this cap is 79 V surge rated but it should blow up from the 287 V, no? If we mean the same cap: the big light gray on the right hand side next to the black one.

What do you mean : They act as neutral.. ? you mean the LEDs have a common connection point and that this point is what is grounded? And you consider this common point as a neutral point?
You do not mean you use the mains neutral as a second connection, besides a ground connection? Sorry for this question, I do not understand what you wrote on neutral, and what you wrote to tinman I did not get yesterday under your video: ...the caps kep on ringing without v decrease this i need to find out onlt the secondary plus neutral or earth ground is connected ...

Yes it is okay you wait till the end of PMBO of course, let your setup run. In the meantime just check by your eyes how all the wires are connected and where they exactly go... 8) :)

Greetings, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lightningengineer on September 15, 2013, 09:14:13 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on September 15, 2013, 08:54:01 AM

You do not mean you use the mains neutral as a second connection, besides a ground connection? Sorry for this question, I do not understand what you wrote on neutral, and what you wrote to tinman I did not get yesterday under your video: ...the caps kep on ringing without v decrease this i need to find out onlt the secondary plus neutral or earth ground is connected ...

Yes it is okay you wait till the end of PMBO of course, let your setup run. In the meantime just check by your eyes how all the wires are connected and where they exactly go... 8) :)

Greetings, Gyula

I might be incorrect but I got the impression from his youtube video that he was using the Neutral line and earth line of house wiring. If that is the case then this is nothing. You can easy pick up all that amount of power with capacitors between the earth and neutral.

I dont want to see the schematic. But he should take his setup outside and drive a spike into the ground and use that for earth. He will see how quickly the power doesnt exist

Just being honest.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 15, 2013, 10:27:04 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on September 15, 2013, 08:54:01 AM
Hi totoalas,

Thanks for the answers and is not it strange that a 63V DC rated capacitor has 287 V DC across it? IT is ok this cap is 79 V surge rated but it should blow up from the 287 V, no? If we mean the same cap: the big light gray on the right hand side next to the black one.

What do you mean : They act as neutral.. ? The resonant transformer supplies the live wire the earth or water tap acts as a neutral you mean the LEDs have a common connection point and that this point is what is grounded? And you consider this common point as a neutral point? all leds are parallel one leg to xfmr the other leg to water tap

You do not mean you use the mains neutral as a second connection, besides a ground connection? no house neutral or live is used the ckt pulse motor come from regular wall 220 to 12v dc and was cut off as shown in the video orSorry for this question, I do not understand what you wrote on neutral, and what you wrote to tinman I did not get yesterday under your video: ...the caps kep on ringing without v decrease this i need to find out onlt the secondary plus neutral or earth ground is connected ...the one zecondary directly connected to the leds the other end open

Yes it is okay you wait till the end of PMBO of course, let your setup run. In the meantime just check by your eyes how all the wires are connected and where they exactly go... 8) :)

Greetings, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 15, 2013, 10:37:00 AM

Quote from: lightningengineer on September 15, 2013, 09:14:13 AM
I might be incorrect but I got the impression from his youtube video that he was using the Neutral line and earth line of house wiring. If that is the case then this is nothing. You can easy pick up all that amount of power with capacitors between the earth and neutral.
We have done this here long time ago neuground lighting please read back on this thread

I dont want to see the schematic. But he should take his setup outside and drive a spike into the ground and use that for earth. He will see how quickly the power doesnt exist

Just being honest.tnx

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on September 15, 2013, 12:16:39 PM

Hi totoalas,

Thanks and this is still a question :

"Is not it strange that a 63V DC rated capacitor has 287 V DC across it? It is ok this cap is 79 V surge rated but it should blow up from the 287 V, no? If we mean the same cap: the big light gray on the right hand side next to the black one."

Otherwise, I congratulate and hopefully the LEDs keep their brightness for long. Probably you just hit on their numbers, 8 pieces in parallel and they are probably just able to stabilize your setup to prevent the runaway situation.
What if you slowly insert the end of a srewdriver into the gap of the ferrite transformer? ::) will the LED brightness change? If you dare to test it... 8)

Greetings, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 15, 2013, 12:29:15 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on September 15, 2013, 12:16:39 PM
Hi totoalas,

Thanks and this is still a question :

"Is not it strange that a 63V DC rated capacitor has 287 V DC across it? Due to HV charge from ignition coil thats why it reached that level in less than a minute
It is ok this cap is 79 V surge rated but it should blow up from the 287 V, no?luckily it did not explode till tjis time but it just stayed there even with load or is not affected by the secondary coil
If we mean the same cap: the big light gray on the right hand side next to the black one." Yes the big light grey cap is 63 v dc ... was surprised also that it reached that level maybe from HV fast charge

Otherwise, I congratulate and hopefully the LEDs keep their brightness for long. the intensity never fade same brightness level
Probably you just hit on their numbers, 8 pieces in parallel and they are probably just able to stabilize your setup to prevent the runaway situation. youre correct , with a 4th generation led 3 watt led lamp it absorbs all the power and the remaining 7 pcs were reduced to 75 % brightness..... When I combined with a 13 watts CFL it absorbs all the power and the 7 leds were off/////

What if you slowly insert the end of a srewdriver into the gap of the ferrite transformer? ::) will the LED brightness change? If you dare to test it... 8) Initially with one led 5 watts the lamp gets brighter when the ignition coil was connected to the output of the pulse circuit and rotor slowed down a little bit @ 800 mA
If I make a loose connection and a spark gap occurs and the current jumps to 1.2 amps input and the neon on the screw driver will light up 10 inches from the transformer just like a tesla coil but cfl and fluor lamps are 30 % lit up
In the new set up where the power comes from the resonant transformer no effect is seen when you short the gap since the lamps are in their max brightness

Greetings, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on September 15, 2013, 05:46:00 PM

Hi toto,

Would be curious to know that when you switched on the 12V DC input voltage, then what circuits were using the 600 mA input current? The two SSG only?

And when you switched off the input 12V, then the setup generated its own inner supply voltage to operate the relay and its control circuit, right? What voltage is needed for the relay coil?

I understand that you did not use the pwm here, only its relay and you have another relay for the Tesla coil, right?

Thanks for your earlier above answers,
Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 15, 2013, 06:07:26 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on September 15, 2013, 05:46:00 PM
Hi toto,

Would be curious to know that when you switched on the 12V DC input voltage, then what circuits were using the 600 mA input current? The two SSG only? Yes

And when you switched off the input 12V, then the setup generated its own inner supply voltage to operate the relay and its control circuit, right? What voltage is needed for the relay coil? 220 v relay coil on top of rotor produced max 56 v dc on the meter when properly aligned while rotor NSNSN is rotating and after 1 minute the 2 big caps are charged to 167 and 287 v

I understand that you did not use the pwm here, only its relay and you have another relay for the Tesla coil, right? yes
pwm got burned because of the hv FROM IGNITION COIL and
no extra relay just direct connection to the HV of ignition coil

Thanks for your earlier above answers,
Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lightningengineer on September 15, 2013, 08:44:45 PM

Hi Toto

You didnt answer the question clearly :)

Simple yes or NO.

Are you connected to the Neutral and Earth wiring of the house??

All the best

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 15, 2013, 08:51:06 PM

Quote from: lightningengineer on September 15, 2013, 08:44:45 PM
Hi Toto

You didnt answer the question clearly :)

Simple yes or NO.

Are you connected to the Neutral and Earth wiring of the house?? NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOO hope you can see this
in spanish NADA in Porguese NAO in Chinse MO in tagalog HINDI

All the best Obrigado Um Koi Sai Thank You Salamat Muchas gracias and Merry Xmas

please refer to post 3375

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lightningengineer on September 15, 2013, 09:22:28 PM

Quote from: totoalas on September 15, 2013, 08:51:06 PM
please refer to post 3375

Heeeheee ;D

OK OK. Maybe you misinterpret by what I mean.

Because you said have a look at post 3375. You replied to Gyula and said - - - - ."the caps kep on ringing without v decrease this i need to find out onlt the secondary plus neutral or earth ground is connected ...the one zecondary directly connected to the leds the other end open"

You say "the secondary PLUS NEUTRAL or Earth Ground" but then you tell me it is not connected! ?????????????????

I dont mean connected DIRECTLY to your lights but if they are connected somewhere through secondaries then all that is happening here is you are picking up stray voltage sympathetic vibration and heightening the voltage through the secondary winding. Dont you see???? Two resonant transformers might 'ring' for awhile but they will decline unless input oscillation is constant.

Go outside with your device, turn off house power and you will see your lights will go out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 15, 2013, 09:49:31 PM

Please read back relax and enjoy listen to the music

We dont need no education yeaah

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lightningengineer on September 15, 2013, 10:22:00 PM

Quote from: totoalas on September 15, 2013, 09:49:31 PM
Please read back relax and enjoy listen to the music

We dont need no education yeaah

OK it seems we have the answer.

I asked you a very simple question because your replies are contradictory.

Fake!!!!!!!!!!

LOOOOOOL

Loser and another liar like Tito.

Tito is bumming power from house wire and calling it "overunity" You are doing same.

Waste of time

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lightningengineer on September 15, 2013, 10:32:52 PM

This will be the last thing I say at this silly site. Unlike Tito I will GO for good when I say so which is something he cant seem to do although he has said it a dozen times but always comes back when his ritalin prescription runs lows. LOOOL

Hey Tito....are you stupid or a Liar or both? Everyone here needs to take a breath and consider this.

Logic dictates that IF IF IF you had overunity and half a brain then you should have made some small product that is dumbed down and be a millionaire. So I ask again....are you are liar or just the worst stupid businessman on planet earth?

I think you are both.

Good day and happy new year to you all LOOOL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 15, 2013, 11:53:32 PM

@lightning E

peace be with you and may you rest in peace. ;D joke

well, what can i say, i am not anymore want to quarel to anyone ok ;)
if you got something good in some of my post then good, and if not sorry. :(

how come i'm lying when i'm saying the truth and you didn't get it? :-\

agin agin agin. i'm a peaceful man and i'm contentented with some free stuff and that's all ok. :)

One thing that a man should learn is that, in your words you can hurt someone and sometimes you can make someone smile and from there you should choose what is good. and i'ved learned from that. i hope you too. ;)
and if you want to be respected, then learn. :)

@toto
ang galing mo bro keep it up. though your style seems to more dangerous, all in all its ok.

@gyulasun
i'm not using ground. that's an old style ;D

God bless everyone
take care ;D
otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 16, 2013, 12:07:00 AM

Quote from: lightningengineer on September 15, 2013, 10:32:52 PM
This will be the last thing I say at this silly site. Unlike Tito I will GO for good when I say so which is something he cant seem to do although he has said it a dozen times but always comes back when his ritalin prescription runs lows. LOOOL

Hey Tito....are you stupid or a Liar or both? Everyone here needs to take a breath and consider this.

Logic dictates that IF IF IF you had overunity and half a brain then you should have made some small product that is dumbed down and be a millionaire. So I ask again....are you are liar or just the worst stupid businessman on planet earth?

I think you are both.

Good day and happy new year to you all LOOOL

hmmmmmmmmm ;)
We can actually see a man how his level of thinking isn't it. ;D

just do that do this and that's it ;D lol bhahahahahhhahhahhahahhahh

You know what?, i am the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy mad dog. and you are the dog ;D joke

ya know what agin?, free energy is just a matter of capacitor and wire and some controllers. 8)

tsk,tsk,tsk you really need to learn. ;D

otits. ;) ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 16, 2013, 04:19:39 AM

hello Tito braveheart ;D

tsk tsk please more tips ::) give us more of your joy

happy happy Tito ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 16, 2013, 04:21:48 AM

why not two capacitors ? or a capacitor and transformer and a diode bridge to recharge capacitor...oops that was your original setup with batteries , right ?

greetings from Edison, he told me he was sad to not use his greatest discovery....you re-discovered ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 16, 2013, 06:00:57 AM

Hi to all
Thanks Tito so my set up is primitive thats ok will come to ur tech later
Gyula ANd Lighting Engineer thanks for the enlightenment
Now ive just checked my DC power supply
its a Sony WI II adaptor wall outlet 220 v ac / 12 v dc
Heres the result
When power is on output is 12 v and sypplies 600 mA to rotate the pulse motor and same time the pulse circuit supplies the ignition coil
the water tap is connected to one leg of 8 parallel led lamps which is partially lit 70 %
when I switched off the power the lamps go to 100 % brightness
when I removed the plug from the wall the leds are off
when i removed only one positive or negative dc wire
the lights are on when the adaptor is plugged in
so the present condition
wall adaptor plug switched off by switch meaning live isolated
output dc wire is connected to the pulse circuit
and igition coil positive connected to positive output of pulse circuit while negative to negative of input pulse

Conclusion
with open in/ output of wall adaptor the water tap closes the loop via leds / IGNITION COIL and reading 110 v ac
EITHER THERES A LEAKAGE )or induction caused bt the ignition /coil cap to feedback to the positive and negative of pulse output circuit) FROM PRIMARY GOING TO SECONDARY WITH NEUTRAL STILL CONNECTED IN THE EXTENSION SOCKET ....
so theres no claim of OU ONLY SEARCHING AND DISCUSSING FREE ENERGY AS THE FORUM SAY
PLAN B STICK TO PWM AND SEE WHERE IT GO
THANKS

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on September 16, 2013, 07:56:43 AM

Hi toto,

Thanks for checking and reporting this and your honesty is very honourable.

Keep up with your good habit of tinkering further on.

Greetings,

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 16, 2013, 10:27:11 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on September 16, 2013, 07:56:43 AM
Hi toto,

Thanks for checking and reporting this and your honesty is very honourable.

Keep up with your good habit of tinkering further on.

Greetings,

Gyula

Next time will be better lesson learned thankyou for ur support

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 16, 2013, 07:53:19 PM

ok!
The real secret lys in just every small kick to start a chain reaction that creates a momentum to propel itself. 8) :o

Now just put that in circuit and thats it. :)

so long fel. thats gold and truth! >:(

a single stick of a match can burn the whole earth and one capacitor is very enough to give us free energy, well if you want two or more then so what its ok, it will give help to other caps and thats good also but bulky and many. ;)

like what i already said, battery can solve grounding ok, for professional look. or connect it in the core to make balance in the reaction of or in the field. 8)

brave happy otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 16, 2013, 08:27:44 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 16, 2013, 07:53:19 PM
ok!
The real secret lys in just every small kick to start a chain reaction that creates a momentum to propel itself. 8) :o

Now just put that in circuit and thats it. :)

so long fel. thats gold and truth! >:(

a single stick of a match can burn the whole earth and one capacitor is very enough to give us free energy, well if you want two or more then so what its ok, it will give help to other caps and thats good also but bulky and many. ;)

like what i already said, battery can solve grounding ok, for professional look. or connect it in the core to make balance in the reaction of or in the field. 8)

brave happy otits ;D

while im going in that direction ...... my lighting bill is (not so ) free at the moment in the Phil
yun nnnno 10 x Napoles ang dating mo Otits heheh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on September 18, 2013, 12:51:38 PM

Tol Otits, :)

Peoples having problem reading ones great minds like yours ::), I made this account to thank and congratulate you on solving the simple arrangement Tesla showed on his patents, and yet people take it for granted. I have also break the box that trap my ability to think, you showed me the way and your hint and clues are really helpful. It is just a matter of ON and OFF, when ON - Parallel Resonance, when OFF - Series Resonance, Actually all people think the classical tank circuit they learn from books are Decaying Resonance once shorted to the primary all energy is wasted, Unlike Tesla's way every On and Off makes it Amplifying Resonance because of his Genius arrangement, that they never really understand what is the function of that High Self Induction coil doing there. There thoughts and mind are shrouded by the classical ideas from the books they learn. It is so simple that even a gradeschool can hit the switch on and off. The Resonance they learn from the books are not the same as Tesla's way of Amplifying Resonance. :o

Any suggestion of schematic or device that are interesting to dig out the so called free energy accumulator would be appreciated. Pinoy is the best when it comes to Historic Free Energy Devices. ;D ;D

Willingly yours, :-*

Stupify ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 18, 2013, 10:54:22 PM

Quote from: stupify12 on September 18, 2013, 12:51:38 PM
Tol Otits, :)

Peoples having problem reading ones great minds like yours ::) , I made this account to thank and congratulate you on solving the simple arrangement Tesla showed on his patents, and yet people take it for granted. I have also break the box that trap my ability to think, you showed me the way and your hint and clues are really helpful. It is just a matter of ON and OFF, when ON - Parallel Resonance, when OFF - Series Resonance, Actually all people think the classical tank circuit they learn from books are Decaying Resonance once shorted to the primary all energy is wasted, Unlike Tesla's way every On and Off makes it Amplifying Resonance because of his Genius arrangement, that they never really understand what is the function of that High Self Induction coil doing there. There thoughts and mind are shrouded by the classical ideas from the books they learn. It is so simple that even a gradeschool can hit the switch on and off. The Resonance they learn from the books are not the same as Tesla's way of Amplifying Resonance. :o

Any suggestion of schematic or device that are interesting to dig out the so called free energy accumulator would be appreciated. Pinoy is the best when it comes to Historic Free Energy Devices. ;D ;D

Willingly yours, :-*

Stupify ::)

Well, THanks for the appreciation and congratulation for what ever degree of info you've got, i'm very happy for you bro.

i want you also to discover the DC way of amplification cause ive'd found out that this is more safer than AC, well that is just my obsevation. :)

it is really good to re examine others work to formulate a better one. ;)

For me in my studies research and experience, the best or efficient way is not Ac nor DC BUT the combination of the two. 8)

by the highway, wag mong masyadong ibulgar ang ideya ok, para medyo mahirapan naman sila, iniinis ako nang mga yan e! ;) :D >:( ;D

happy experimenting. :D
always take care. ;)

lovingly yours otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 19, 2013, 05:58:32 AM

Ate Helen aka Otit's
My new set up no more grounding
Ssg out to ignition coil
Ignition coil output to 3 turns 4mm stranded wire then in series with lamp starter then a another spARK GAP TO e core of primary
Secondary output vary from 12 to 1000 plus v a.c. when gap is adjusted
No load test yet need to make adjustable spark gap for better control

Dc and a.c. combo i agree Otits
Power consumption 1.3 amps with spark gap
Lamp starter blue arc very bright with spark gap
I'm using 4 x 6 mm e core 2 33000uf 63v dc and in4007 diode and reed switch

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on September 19, 2013, 10:03:14 PM

Tol Otits,
You are right about re examining other people who was the first to replicate Tesla. Im onto Carlos Benitez combination of DC and AC actually DC amplication . All I can say of all FREE ENERGY Devices are derived from the true master Nikola Tesla. The convension of this energy is so simple once you started the kick. All we need is a source of energy that never deplted and extract then convert. ;D ;D I already get everything not just small info, Im a learner my self and a obsess maniac of Tesla's Works. the conversion are all cited on the Colorado Spring Notes, people think that we cant solve the AMPERAGE AMPLIFICATION, I think we Filipino should also focus on free energy devices like the Russian do because only this two kinds of people seems to solve the puzzle with ease. :o

Stupify.

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 18, 2013, 10:54:22 PM

Well, THanks for the appreciation and congratulation for what ever degree of info you've got, i'm very happy for you bro.

i want you also to discover the DC way of amplification cause ive'd found out that this is more safer than AC, well that is just my obsevation. :)

it is really good to re examine others work to formulate a better one. ;)

For me in my studies research and experience, the best or efficient way is not Ac nor DC BUT the combination of the two. 8)

by the highway, wag mong masyadong ibulgar ang ideya ok, para medyo mahirapan naman sila, iniinis ako nang mga yan e! ;) :D >:( ;D

happy experimenting. :D
always take care. ;)

lovingly yours otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on September 19, 2013, 11:11:11 PM

Quote from: stupify12 on September 18, 2013, 12:51:38 PM
It is just a matter of ON and OFF, when ON - Parallel Resonance, when OFF - Series Resonance, Actually all people think the classical tank circuit they learn from books are Decaying Resonance once shorted to the primary all energy is wasted, Unlike Tesla's way every On and Off makes it Amplifying Resonance because of his Genius arrangement, that they never really understand what is the function of that High Self Induction coil doing there. There thoughts and mind are shrouded by the classical ideas from the books they learn. It is so simple that even a gradeschool can hit the switch on and off. The Resonance they learn from the books are not the same as Tesla's way of Amplifying Resonance. :o

OK. I'm on my way to bed, but this is bugging me, so I guess I might as well say it. What if Teets' device involved a series wound bifilar coil with a cap. What if a parallel wound bifilar coil was wound across the diameter of the swbf coil. If you pulse the swbf, you will not have reflective losses on the parallel wound bifi coil. So, wouldn't you get kick-kick, kick-kick, kick-kick etc.,....? I need to sleep on this. If the arrangement is something similar to this, I suspect a diode is needed (Teets has mentioned this in the past). I just can't quite visualize how to discharge from one coil into the other, involving the cap. I suspect the legs of the cap are across the 2 ends of the first coil, followed by a diode on one of the 2 wires, leading to the other coil's 2 (parallel) ends. I know I haven't got it quite right, but perhaps I'm on to the basic principles, perhaps not in the right order.
Anyway, buenas noches a todos.
Hasta mañana.
bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 22, 2013, 03:37:01 AM

well, we're all almost there. :D
just a very small steps and voila success. :D

try your guts buddy, you can do it. ;)

The automatic successive kick started from the small kick is the way to be. ;)

JUST DO IT!!! :)
IT SHOULD BE SMALL kick then it kick->KICK
KICK. 8)

SMILE KA DIN, KONTI LANG, BUKAS AKO NAMAN ANG TAYA. ;D

OTITS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 22, 2013, 08:36:13 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 22, 2013, 03:37:01 AM
well, we're all almost there. :D
just a very small steps and voila success. :D

try your guts buddy, you can do it. ;)

The automatic successive kick started from the small kick is the way to be. ;)

JUST DO IT!!! :)
IT SHOULD BE SMALL kick then it kick->KICK
KICK. 8)
d ba KICK BACK KICK BACK KICK
BACK MAKIBAKA

SMILE KA DIN, KONTI LANG, BUKAS AKO NAMAN ANG TAYA. ;D ANO YAN LAGAY

OTITS ;D TOTO ( WAG LANG BALIGTARIN HEHEH)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 22, 2013, 09:10:23 PM

Hoy pareng TO-OT!!! ;D ;D

Marami ka nang natutunan sakin ah ;D, Dapat magbayad ka para maka kick back naman ako hehehhehhe ;D

alam mo pare, mas maganda yung dc amplification, tapos inverter nalang.
pero wag mo akong tanungin tungkul dito dahil di ko sasabihin. beh :P ! hehehhehehehehe joke. ;D

otits { pwede baligtad, wag lang palet o sa e, kc baka matuhug kita.;D }

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 22, 2013, 09:28:56 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 22, 2013, 09:10:23 PM
Hoy pareng TO-OT!!! ;D ;D

Marami ka nang natutunan sakin ah ;D , Dapat magbayad ka para maka kick back naman ako hehehhehhe ;D

alam mo pare, mas maganda yung dc amplification, tapos inverter nalang.
pero wag mo akong tanungin tungkul dito dahil di ko sasabihin. beh :P ! hehehhehehehehe joke. ;D

otits { pwede baligtad, wag lang palet o sa e, kc baka matuhug kita. ;D }

iN FAIRNESS ALLS WELL THAT ENDS WELL
HATE THE HV GET MY ARM NUMB FOR 3 DAYS
oK dc IS THE WAY MY WAY AND ONLY WAY
PARALLEL AND SERIES RESONANCE ALA TITSLA STYLE OK BA
COMBINE UR TECH WITH HEALTHY LIVING OZONATOR FREQUENCY LIGHT THERAPY TO MAKE IT MORE EXCITING

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 23, 2013, 03:17:27 AM

so Tito....???? kick and back kick then bigger kick ? hmm.... why not just a tank circuit in resonance and get energy from here but not from here but rather from disturbed ambient ;-) ? your first schematic was correct with a energy returning back via diode bridge to the bank of dead batteries but the point of taking power out was not correct, ok ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on September 23, 2013, 08:44:57 AM

::) ::) All we need is to kick( small energy starter) a stone(condenser + _____) and set it rolling(electron flow) in a icy mountain or hill(transformer), The kick now will be amplified into a bigger rolling Ball of Ice( Induced coil) that will be return to the stone(condenser) over filling it from the initial kick you give. It is now amplified energy. Then repeat the process. The schematic you post above needs a small modification just look it more weirder, but that will be a hard thing for people who follows the classical Electrical symbols, You need to be insane first to understand how such system works, adding another the same circuit on the said transformer will increase and amplified the energy as Otits told you already everything. Everything will follow then when your already insane and when you dont follow such rules that trap our thinking and limit our imagination.

Tol Otits, Ilang battery gamit mo sa system mo ngaun?

;D ;D stupify

Quote from: totoalas on September 22, 2013, 08:36:13 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 23, 2013, 09:32:28 AM

stupify12

Understood, but I'm working on another ball of ice method, or actually it is a Titanic version ha ha ;D ;D ;D You make a kick and let it flow and flow and flow and kick iceberg which is now flowing into Titanic ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [size=78%]....[/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 25, 2013, 03:36:32 AM

@forest
as i told everyone we are not limited to one design ok, we are free. The important thing is you must knew the working engine. :)

Be careful buddy i know what you mean. that's very dangerous. :) :'(

it can strike very fast like lightning. :) :(
insulate your self ok?, be safe. :)
Cause without you, there will be flood in the city. like in the Philippines ;D

@stuffynose ;D

Source is not a big deal anymore okay. ;) let say we use the antenna source, the style of coil should be according to what it needs ok,

now if battery, of course it should depends on how you can use the full strength of the certain battery volts and its amp. 8)

in that way, what i mean a say is that it always depends on the source how you make your primary phases of coils. hope you get it. :-\ ???

it always need matching technique and balance. and timing is not anymore big deal also here but still included. ???

let say for example a child or a baby cannot chew foods that an adult can. ;)

Well, one time i made a design that needs a battery for just a starter, and if you will not remove it, it is being charge. so after start you remove it and that's it. it should stand itself. ;) and that design falls under sm, hubbard , bearden design. just caps ok 8)

and if you want antenna you really need at least two to three phase or i mean stage or whatever you call it. :D

BUT the best for me is the DC amplification, believe me. ;) :)

Thank you, hope i made a little help to everyone. :-*

me and always me the teaser of everybody ototits. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D i mean teacher ;D

God bless everyone. :)

I HOPE I FREED EVERY ONES THINKING IN THE BOX, CAUSE THAT IS MY PRIMARY PURPOSE HERE AND THAT IS TO MAKE YOU FREE. ;)

LOVE YOU EVERYONE. :-*

;D OTOTITS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 25, 2013, 07:23:43 AM

Kick this ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: truesearch on September 25, 2013, 10:42:31 AM

@Dave45:

Very nice!!

Are you planning to freeze it in water? If you do, please share a photo of the results so we can visualize the magnetic field produced.

truesearch

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on September 25, 2013, 05:45:41 PM

Sept 5, 2011

Zilano

parallel or series????? resonance!

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and anti-resonance (below).

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on September 25, 2013, 11:55:21 PM

Tol Otits ;)

The ping pong TECH of your's is your own design that has surpass previous Free Energy Mad Scientist ;D ;D. Thank you so much for giving us clues and tips.

But still im having problems of switching this ping pong Otits Tech, It can easily burn crispy our solid state Field Effect Transistor or Mosfet. Any suggestion for a good switching will be much appreciated. Are you using now a rotating solid contact disc switching? I also read from some of your post , that you are using some logic IC like 78xx for timing and balance of the sequence that will happen in the system. 78xx IC logic or decade counter maybe flipflop,?, then you are now using solid state switching with durable electronics?

Tol, I think you have already reach the top, but for me and some that has recently understand this technology we are still starting to swing the flow to vibrate this free energy. So I am begging for new hints on the technical instruments, parts, or specification of the transformer coil like the ratio of primary and secondary- I think that is too much for request but I will be gratefull if you could answer us even in a one sentence. ;D ::)

@ Everyone, If you have a schematic or pictures of Historic Free Energy Devices that you think is true, kindly post it here so that we can discuss, develop, and modify it to suit on our newly found technology that comes from outside the box ;D ;D ;D ;D

stupifymeow ::) ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 26, 2013, 09:51:57 PM

Quote from: stupify12 on September 25, 2013, 11:55:21 PM
Tol Otits ;)

The ping pong TECH of your's is your own design that has surpass previous Free Energy Mad Scientist ;D ;D . Thank you so much for giving us clues and tips.

But still im having problems of switching this ping pong Otits Tech, It can easily burn crispy our solid state Field Effect Transistor or Mosfet. Any suggestion for a good switching will be much appreciated. Are you using now a rotating solid contact disc switching? I also read from some of your post , that you are using some logic IC like 78xx for timing and balance of the sequence that will happen in the system. 78xx IC logic or decade counter maybe flipflop,?, then you are now using solid state switching with durable electronics?

Tol, I think you have already reach the top, but for me and some that has recently understand this technology we are still starting to swing the flow to vibrate this free energy. So I am begging for new hints on the technical instruments, parts, or specification of the transformer coil like the ratio of primary and secondary- I think that is too much for request but I will be gratefull if you could answer us even in a one sentence. ;D ::)

@ Everyone, If you have a schematic or pictures of Historic Free Energy Devices that you think is true, kindly post it here so that we can discuss, develop, and modify it to suit on our newly found technology that comes from outside the box ;D ;D ;D ;D

stupifymeow ::) ::)

Hi everyday ;D

Well, that kind of humble attitude really make my hands to answer even i don't want to. :)
in my experience the customize switching is still the one that last longer, try some hinges and carbon but do it in more exotic way ok :D

i also tried some electronics but just for low voltage only, mean the half part of course.
electronics today are really good especially in my latest discovery of DC amplification, you can use them to make full control and you can dictate lots of rules.

i used 78xx also as current amplifier.

well, i do not consider my self reached the top cause i am not stoping in studying for there is always new everyday. :)

well, bifilar is the best in primary, cause it doubles the effect of the input. ;) ;D

The design should always be simple as it can be, cause in the time of tesla he is just limited for electronic components ok. ;)

I BELEIVE I HAVE GIVEN ALL NECESSARY TOOLS TO USE, ONLY SOME PART OF ARRANGEMENT IS MISSING. ;D

OTIOTS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on September 26, 2013, 10:33:56 PM

Tol Otits,
Thank you very much for that clarification. I know how exactly the engine(TITANIC ;D) function on this set up. There is nothing MISSING on behalf of me, we all know that an engine will not function if there is even a small parts left to attach.. Right ;D ;D? Some problems arise like the question I have asked above. Then I will go with the HINGES?=(Commutator?), Im not really sure what you mean of HINGES?

For the Transformer part bifilar is indeed a better primary than single wire.Is the MAGIC COIL has the same length with the secondary coil in your design, what do you think that will work best, the same length or much longer than the secondary?

I have my focus on DC Amplification of Carloz Benitez 4 Battery Switch this guy has combine all the fame invention of Nikola Tesla into one set up with a promising result.

Again.. Thank you very much for that answer Bro Otits. ;)

::)stupifymeow 8) 8)

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 26, 2013, 09:51:57 PM

Hi everyday ;D

Well, that kind of humble attitude really make my hands to answer even i don't want to. :)
in my experience the customize switching is still the one that last longer, try some hinges and carbon but do it in more exotic way ok :D

i also tried some electronics but just for low voltage only, mean the half part of course.
electronics today are really good especially in my latest discovery of DC amplification, you can use them to make full control and you can dictate lots of rules.

i used 78xx also as current amplifier.

well, i do not consider my self reached the top cause i am not stoping in studying for there is always new everyday. :)

well, bifilar is the best in primary, cause it doubles the effect of the input. ;) ;D

The design should always be simple as it can be, cause in the time of tesla he is just limited for electronic components ok. ;)

I BELEIVE I HAVE GIVEN ALL NECESSARY TOOLS TO USE, ONLY SOME PART OF ARRANGEMENT IS MISSING. ;D

OTIOTS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 27, 2013, 02:19:58 AM

Quote from: stupify12 on September 26, 2013, 10:33:56 PM
Tol Otits,
Thank you very much for that clarification. I know how exactly the engine(TITANIC ;D ) function on this set up. There is nothing MISSING on behalf of me, we all know that an engine will not function if there is even a small parts left to attach.. Right ;D ;D ? Some problems arise like the question I have asked above. Then I will go with the HINGES?=(Commutator?), Im not really sure what you mean of HINGES?

For the Transformer part bifilar is indeed a better primary than single wire.Is the MAGIC COIL has the same length with the secondary coil in your design, what do you think that will work best, the same length or much longer than the secondary?

I have my focus on DC Amplification of Carloz Benitez 4 Battery Switch this guy has combine all the fame invention of Nikola Tesla into one set up with a promising result.

Again.. Thank you very much for that answer Bro Otits. ;)

::)stupifymeow 8) 8)

I am happy now for there is someone understand what i mean. :) ;)

Its actually an incident combination of the two multiply by 3. ;D sorry for the exotic formula. ;D

The longer wire will add up strength of the field, but it works best if you make the secondary is inside of effect strenght of the primary so that the extra wire will not become a friction to the flow. and from there you should be doing a large spark which is what we really is aiming.

and don't forget to add some KAL(SO4)2.12H2O at the HV portion. 8) :)

and that is the balance i am saying. ;)

That's all i can give buddy. be carefull. ;)

note1: it is the friction that makes things hot. avoid overheat ok. ;)
That is really the main reason why successful design is perfect. ???
There should have heat but not overheat ok ;)
Lalo na anghit ;D

note2: if you can afford or get some radium then why not. ;)
This is really good in ionization process. ;)

otitots ;D

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Post by: totoalas on September 29, 2013, 06:44:44 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 27, 2013, 02:19:58 AM

I am happy now for there is someone understand what i mean. :) ;)

Its actually an incident combination of the two multiply by 3. ;D sorry for the exotic formula. ;D

The longer wire will add up strength of the field, but it works best if you make the secondary is inside of effect strenght of the primary so that the extra wire will not become a friction to the flow. and from there you should be doing a large spark which is what we really is aiming.

and don't forget to add some KAL(SO4)2.12H2O at the HV portion. 8) :)

and that is the balance i am saying. ;)

That's all i can give buddy. be carefull. ;)

note1: it is the friction that makes things hot. avoid overheat ok. ;)
That is really the main reason why successful design is perfect. ???
There should have heat but not overheat ok ;)
Lalo na anghit ;D

note2: if you can afford or get some radium then why not. ;)
This is really good in ionization process. ;)

otitots ;D

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 07, 2013, 06:26:04 AM

hi everyday ;D

Let say you want to transfer more than 200 people from phil to lost angeles, then what plane will you use? ??? ;D

That's it. ;)

otiots ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on October 07, 2013, 08:10:19 AM

Saulog liner via gapo

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 07, 2013, 08:17:48 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 07, 2013, 06:26:04 AM
hi everyday ;D

Let say you want to transfer more than 200 people from phil to lost angeles, then what plane will you use? ??? ;D

That's it. ;)

otiots ;D

Yeah, bigger mass bigger energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 07, 2013, 06:51:14 PM

See its really simple to know what is needed to a certain necessities isn't it. that's basic. ::)

Lets say starting from the power plant to transfer huge amount of power in a lot of miles away then what tesla needs to do? ???

and what if he wants to do it wirelessly. :o

And you, what will you do? ;)

what did tesla found in his wireless tech? is it really hard to do?

what really is the purpose of magnifying transmitter?
What is the difference between the radio transmitter today?

if electricity can travel in a speed of light then i think it can grow tremendously fast in a certain tank isn't it? ???

and that is instantly isn't it. VERY SIMPLE. 8)

:P :P :P

joke :D

;D ;D ;D

ot it ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 07, 2013, 11:52:45 PM

I still dont get it. :-\ Was I ever close? ???

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 08, 2013, 04:36:49 AM

Magluvin

Two things to consider :
1.What do you have on you car roof ? :P
2. What is the missing piece in patent we were working on for years on other thread , compared to real devices ....

Anyway, Tito ? I still don't know why Tesla needed high voltage ? It is not needed except in sending energy and I have no troubles to imagine it for sending it via stratosphere when HV would ionize path to energy to flow...but for ground sending ?
oh, maybe needed for step down to 230V because 1V AC is rather not usable ???? ???

I really need to know what was the construction of zinc-carbon battery used in 1800' for telegraphy to estimate the current/ voltage relation used to power telegraphic cables...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on October 08, 2013, 01:18:30 PM

Actually in the 1800 earth batteries were used for telegraphy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_battery

But officially these batteries were used but were very dangerous...

http://members.kos.net/sdgagnon/te4.html

As for your question about why Tesla used or needed to use High voltages, well quite simply there was little current for the high voltages to loose either in the use or in the transmission of that energy. As we all know that high voltages that incorporate high frequency show skin like effects on anything that it conducts through. Well Tesla figured that out and instead buried his grounds very deeply near water to use the surface of the water to conduct on. Did you ever wonder how Tesla planned on giving power to ships at sea? Ah ha! With an inverted system of grounding Tesla could pull this off. That means use the air as the ground and the ground or water as the medium of transfer instead of the other way around.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 08, 2013, 10:56:10 PM

Tesla's way of Electrical Energy Transfer is done by two things. First Hv discharge spark/arc, Second is by Vibration of matter through the ground.

Let me remind you dont ever think of electricity as a Electron Flow that is very wrong. Tesla's concept of electricity is the Vibration of Atoms(Magnets in nature), It is very clear on Tesla's mind that electricity is somewhat fluid like vibration(Domino Effect). Let as think of electricity as water/fluid.

Answer;
1.I still don't know why Tesla needed high voltage ?

Actually to attain Free Energy Devices we need to modify the energy input,. It is attain by using the disruptive discharge of the condenser on the primary ,think of it like how the joule thief work but in a controlled manner. The controlling of On and Off of the circuit it to amplify the energy and to avoid the so called Lenz Law. Tesla use HV to improve the efficiency of the High Frequency Generator, Hv means less Resistance- less losses on the generating set up. What was really the goal of Tesla is the phenomenon of the disruptive discharge of condenser- One can attain High Frequency with one impulse discharge of the Condenser. That is the reason why Tesla think of the condenser as the most wonderful instrument discovered on the universe. He cited that there is no limit on energy we can create on COndenser.

This is the result of the disruptive discharge on the primary. When Tesla discharge the condenser the impulse of the discharge is rapid alternating oscillation inducing the secondary windings of COILS, with the condenser characteristics of impulse rapid oscillation Tesla can generate on the induced secondary coils HV(many turns) High Frequency. It is clear that the High Frequency and High Voltage is generated on the Secondary of the Tesla Oscillator.

2. What is missing on the patent?

There is nothing missing on the patent, the only problem is it is scattered on parts on all of the patents of Tesla, one must combine all the knowledge learn from the beginning to understand such genius man. The missing part is the difference of Radio Telecommunication and Tesla Energy Transfer. This is the difference:

Radio Telecommunication, The transmitter is connected to ground(EARTH) and works best when near a swampy(WET= better conduction) area for better performance. but the portable radio receiver/listener are not grounded , maybe using battery pack to power such radios.

Tesla Energy Transfer, The transmitter and receiver are both grounded. The propagation of the energy is through the ground or water bodies. The way the energy transfer is by Vibration of ground or water. Tesla way of energy transfer is by sending shock wave impulse of currents on the ground, then the receiver can receives this vibration with the ground connection of the primary windings.

The big difference between the two is; Radio Telecommunication is sending electromagnetic waves, Tesla Energy Transmission is by sending currents to vibrate the ground/earth. The energy transfer will only work when this transmitter tower is connected to the receiver by the aid of HV SPARKS/ARCS. That is wireless done by Tesla, using only the ground and sparks/arc to transmit energy. Think of it simple, dont ever think of complicated ones, Tariel kapanadze" my secret is so simple that you will laugh" ;D ;D ;D

As for the Tesla car on my own idea, he is using a battery for buzzer type switching and the antenna is for air capacitance. Tesla utilize the capacity on suspended air capacitance, if he can produce 1volt on the antenna, he can amplify the energy to power hes car motors and recharge the battery at the same time.

With the direction of TURNS OF WINDINGS( examine it closely how did Tesla wind the coils on Transmitter and Reciever are they on repulsive or attractive orientation) with the transmitter and receiver Tesla is very sure that this Sparks/Arcs will only arcs to the receiver Tesla Oscillator.

The idea of wireless is simple with out using literally a wire, he wanted to perfect system that in the future we dont needed to spend so much money for the transmission wires.Instead Tesla use the Tesla HV discharge and the Earth as a medium for wireless. He doesnt use wire but use the HV and ground instead. Did you get the point guys. Tariel is using it on his Blue Vertical Transformer sending energy using the spark to connect the First and Second Transformer with the HV Sparks.

First 12v>Amplify> HV+ Hi freq>Step down>Low voltage 220v+ Hi amperage still Hi Freq. Try to Step down the 1kv by using the proper turns(voltage) proper coil secondary diameter(amperage) + ground electrons as people think it is electrons LOL. ;D ;D

stupimeow 8) 8) 8)

Quote from: forest on October 08, 2013, 04:36:49 AM
Magluvin

Two things to consider :
1.What do you have on you car roof ? :P
2. What is the missing piece in patent we were working on for years on other thread , compared to real devices ....

Anyway, Tito ? I still don't know why Tesla needed high voltage ? It is not needed except in sending energy and I have no troubles to imagine it for sending it via stratosphere when HV would ionize path to energy to flow...but for ground sending ?
oh, maybe needed for step down to 230V because 1V AC is rather not usable ???? ???

I really need to know what was the construction of zinc-carbon battery used in 1800' for telegraphy to estimate the current/ voltage relation used to power telegraphic cables...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on October 10, 2013, 02:17:59 AM

If you want to understand Tesla >>and Tito well, you need know kick >>and transmission-line transformer well.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 10, 2013, 06:30:58 AM

Quote from: weizisky on October 10, 2013, 02:17:59 AM
If you want to understand Tesla >>and Tito well, you need know kick >>and transmission-line transformer well.

Sure, but nothing replace the experiments ! Unfortunately some of them require tools :-(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on October 10, 2013, 09:28:48 AM

And remember. Tesla used air core. Air core and tesla bifilar, because his bifilar had power to amplify high frequencies.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on October 10, 2013, 03:51:36 PM

Quote from: Leely on October 10, 2013, 09:28:48 AM
And remember. Tesla used air core. Air core and tesla bifilar, because his bifilar had power to amplify high frequencies.

air core is not necessary, like Stanley, Tito, they use ferrite core. the key is that you have to find the accurate erection moment of your circuit like Tito said. the usage of Bifilar is to grab kicks, seem nobody know that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 10, 2013, 07:17:02 PM

Quote from: weizisky on October 10, 2013, 03:51:36 PMthe usage of Bifilar is to grab kicks,

;) right on ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bbem on October 11, 2013, 09:10:42 AM

Quote from: weizisky on October 10, 2013, 02:17:59 AM[/font]If you want to understand Tesla >>and Tito well, you need know kick >>and transmission-line transformer well.

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and

Quote from: weizisky on October 10, 2013, 03:51:36 PM
air core is not necessary, like Stanley, Tito, they use ferrite core. the key is that you have to find the accurate erection moment of your circuit like Tito said. the usage of Bifilar is to grab kicks, seem nobody know that.

@weizisky,
Would you please be so kind to tell more about what you are saying?
Thanks!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on October 12, 2013, 12:56:22 PM

Hi,
The kick means free energy, common pure electrical pulses and BEMF pulse are not kicks, kick appears as pulse.
this is Tito's thread, I don't want talk more about Tito's device in details, you can ask him directly.
Tesla use HV to make big output efficiently, but HV is not easy control, and dangerous. so, a good idear from Tito, is use multy stages and lower voltage. therefore it's easier to build and convient to use.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bbem on October 12, 2013, 03:20:15 PM

Quote from: weizisky on October 12, 2013, 12:56:22 PM
Hi,
The kick means free energy, common pure electrical pulses and BEMF pulse are not kicks, kick appears as pulse.
this is Tito's thread, I don't want talk more about Tito's device in details, you can ask him directly.
Tesla use HV to make big output efficiently, but HV is not easy control, and dangerous. so, a good idear from Tito, is use multy stages and lower voltage. therefore it's easier to build and convient to use.

Thanks Weizisky, I get it. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on October 12, 2013, 03:54:06 PM

Kicks does not necessarily mean free energy, it means pulses from a capacitor which is amplified by a transformer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on October 12, 2013, 03:59:21 PM

Infact, kicks simply means pulses, but in this context, it's from a capacitor

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 12, 2013, 04:15:25 PM

Well, and how you proceed further from the outputs of the transformers? It is okay that you can take out more energy from a capacitor in a very short time as Tesla wrote. How can you utilize it and what would recharge the cap(s)?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 12, 2013, 04:29:30 PM

from resonance in resonance ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 12, 2013, 08:37:40 PM

Quote from: weizisky on October 10, 2013, 03:51:36 PM
air core is not necessary, like Stanley, Tito, they use ferrite core. the key is that you have to find the accurate erection moment of your circuit like Tito said. the usage of Bifilar is to grab kicks, seem nobody know that.

"the usage of Bifilar is to grab kicks, seem nobody know that."

I didnt know that. I always heard Tito say the bifi produces a stronger magnetic field. So I figured it was a primary winding. That doesnt sound like its a receiver, does it?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on October 12, 2013, 10:01:40 PM

@ tito. Tito is your circuit doing what u said by charging and discharging a capacitor just as Tom bearden explained or is ur circuit doing something else. Can u please elaborate on ur circuit?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 13, 2013, 12:35:41 AM

The Condenser act and function as a super acting power supply or source if you look at the Tesla Circuit/Oscillator. The characteristic of Condenser is an impulse rapid oscillation discharge. The joule thief, bedini oscillator, pulse system almost function like the Impulse Technology of Nikola Tesla but never attain the efficiency of a Condenser. There is no limit to the Energy you can create with a Condenser. 8) 8)

There is two ways to recharge the capacitor.
First the Charging circuit as part of generating circuit/power source.,which is well known of all people on free energy device research. ::) ::)

Second is the Induced Coils on the secondary that is configure to recharge the Condenser at proper timing and split of second which is out of phase from the Inducing Coil/Primary coil. :P :P

As for the Bifilar Primary Tito design it to increase the Impulse Discharge Area of Effect of Bifilar Primary. Always remember there is Primary, Secondary, Magic Coil, Charging Coil. Your Imagination is the Limit. ;D ;D I know how exactly Tito's device work and design. What I am posting above is an explanation for the Wireless Magnifying Transmitter, which is related and the same device Tesla has always cited on his patents.

Quote from: gyulasun on October 12, 2013, 04:15:25 PM
Well, and how you proceed further from the outputs of the transformers? It is okay that you can take out more energy from a capacitor in a very short time as Tesla wrote. How can you utilize it and what would recharge the cap(s)?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on October 13, 2013, 01:17:07 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 12, 2013, 08:37:40 PM
"the usage of Bifilar is to grab kicks, seem nobody know that."

I didnt know that. I always heard Tito say the bifi produces a stronger magnetic field. So I figured it was a primary winding. That doesnt sound like its a receiver, does it?

Mags

That's why I tell you that. open another door to see secret inside. Big P = （1+ △）×（1+ △）×（1+ △）×,,,,,,,,,,,

if you can produce △, but can not keep △.,,,,, @#$#%^$,,,,, end>>>>nothing
Weizisky

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on October 13, 2013, 01:38:00 AM

Stupify12

Add more, a single coil is also a single Bifi.

you know what I mean.

Weizisky

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on October 13, 2013, 02:11:22 AM

Ninong Otits
are we near but far
malayo ang tingin dahil jamiy Duling

HV low I (Q) + Kick back ( Napoles style) + High current ( Low Voltes (5) = Titos device
Anu b mag fo fourth anniverasry na daig pa Willtime bigtime nagsara na

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 13, 2013, 03:11:59 AM

I know exactly what you mean. I posted above that "Your Imagination is the Limit" means that We don't limit our self to only ONE COIL, ONE CAPACITOR OR ONE CHARGING COIL, ONE TRANSFORMER, ONE DEVICE.

Quote from: weizisky on October 13, 2013, 01:38:00 AM
Stupify12

Add more, a single coil is also a single Bifi.

you know what I mean.

Weizisky

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on October 13, 2013, 07:10:15 AM

I know some of u are protecting Tito let it not be as if he's giving something too big.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 13, 2013, 07:13:09 AM

Quote from: weizisky on October 13, 2013, 01:17:07 AM
That's why I tell you that. open another door to see secret inside. Big P = （1+ △）×（1+ △）×（1+ △）×,,,,,,,,,,,

if you can produce △, but can not keep △.,,,,, @#$#%^$,,,,, end>>>>nothing
Weizisky

Hi Weizisky,

In your math formula (P = （1+ △）×（1+ △）×（1+ △）×,,,,,,,,,,,) what does 1 mean? Is it the initial input power I have to supply for the start up? If yes, then the problem is that 1 would decrease also in the starting process, no? It is okay that I must keep the △ but you mean that the many △ resupply the 1 (i.e. unity input I supplied) ?
Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on October 13, 2013, 10:55:04 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on October 13, 2013, 07:13:09 AM
Hi Weizisky,

In your math formula (P = （1+ △）×（1+ △）×（1+ △）×,,,,,,,,,,,) what does 1 mean? Is it the initial input power I have to supply for the start up? If yes, then the problem is that 1 would decrease also in the starting process, no? It is okay that I must keep the △ but you mean that the many △ resupply the 1 (i.e. unity input I supplied) ?
Thanks, Gyula

Hi Gyula
If a device work steadily, in one cycle, we put 1 in, then get 1+△, if △= losses + output, for 1 unite time, P = （1+ △）×（1+ △）×（1+ △）×,,,,,,,,,,,= F （1+ △）=F , here F is friquency.
don't wast time at this math formula, it's just a thinking way. what I really want to say in former post is that △ escape so quick, it almost dispear when it be make. so, a good way is let △ become a part of input. hence , you have keep it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on October 13, 2013, 03:30:55 PM

be serious.he is got nothing to give.

Quote from: Leely on October 13, 2013, 07:10:15 AM
I know some of u are protecting Tito let it not be as if he's giving something too big.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 13, 2013, 04:47:28 PM

1W/h in Farad-Condenser capacity is a very much emf-potential:
3600W/sec and 360000W/pulse (50Hz based) .

Super-Magnets (like DARPA Meta-materials) and dynamite are like capacitor.
Concentrated,this means evacuated=compressed

Sincerely
CdL

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3&FT=D&ND=3&date=19940318&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3&FT=D&ND=3&date=19940318&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on October 13, 2013, 04:49:53 PM

Its now I understand the concept, I should be thankful to Tito for making me know that such things works.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 13, 2013, 04:59:52 PM

This world is working on strange manner... one day something is very big and next day it is unimportant... hmmm...it's not related to tito, just my personal thought....in fact supression works that way exactly. You think you have something big or important like Noe about the ark, just imagine. Then your wife comes and tell you : you didn't clean your room ! and then everything become unimportant ;D ;D ;D I think Noe was a man with STEEL NERVES. Imagine, he is building his ark and all those people coming and taunted at him...and his wife, I don't know ...... maybe she repeated every day : go and work a like a man and do something useful, I need this or that ..... I really hope he has a good wife but who knows really ? OOOPS , sorry if I offended somebody....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on October 14, 2013, 02:13:03 AM

Forest, you offended your wife. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stoyan_ on October 14, 2013, 02:28:43 AM

Hello everybody !
Please see the attached file , containing descripton of idea for an overunity transformer.
Please feel invited to comment it .
Since I don't have enough funds to build and test it if someone is thinking that the idea is promising it will be fantastic to test it and to post the results.
Many thanks in advance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on October 14, 2013, 05:41:14 AM

Charging and discharging a capacitor. Who can help me with a circuit that can do just that?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 14, 2013, 08:10:44 AM

The zvs charges and discharges a cap into the primary or you might say its capacitor assisted ;)

You need two primary's the bemf from one assist's the driving circuit of the other as well as the output.

every action has an opposite and equal reaction
if you understand this........ eye's to see, ears to hear
Im sure this is a law by Maxwell or one of the others, I never studied their laws, never set boundary's.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on October 14, 2013, 08:33:26 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on October 14, 2013, 08:10:44 AM
The zvs charges and discharges a cap into the primary or you might say its capacitor assisted ;)

You need two primary's the bemf from one assist's the driving circuit of the other as well as the output.

every action has an opposite and equal reaction
if you understand this........ eye's to see, ears to hear
Im sure this is a law by Maxwell or one of the others, I never studied their laws, never set boundary's.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on October 14, 2013, 08:34:49 AM

What is a zvs if I may ask?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 14, 2013, 06:59:15 PM

Hi everyone :)

Its a mixnut feeling for me heard someone favor and unfavor and some insults, BUT! that's all okay ;)

what is important for me now is that i opened a more than a century closed door.

Whether its good or bad, the important is i made you to think in something that is kept for everybody. ;)

so long fell. take care. ;)

Always remember and put it in your heart and mind that our salvation is not from free energy but it is from our Lord JESUS Only!

@stuffid joke ;D
i believe that you know it buddy. cause you are always saying the vital points. ;)

@me and everybody
Sorry for everything and thank you for everything. ;D
That is what you call there is something in nothing ???
The truth will set you free and JESUS is the truth. :)

Remember:
To scatter something, we don't need wire but to build something we only need wires. ;)
ok!
one thing more for me to say about tesla's technique secret, its the ACCUMULATION PROCESS
When something is made focus even how small it is, something is accumulated at the other side and it bear a strength. 8)
that's all everyone. ;) :) 8)

@mags
buddy don't forget that you are my friend, very close to my heart. ok? ;)

Me and always me :)

Otits L. Noicaro Now signing off

GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 14, 2013, 07:46:35 PM

Where ya goin Tito you cant listen to every joker that comes to the board. The bifilar coil is a very special coil, one leg for primary the other for catching bemf into a cap.

zvs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 14, 2013, 09:01:17 PM

Teets ;D ;D

You know Filipino's 8) are good at solving puzzles . I know it pretty much now- every details. Tesla draw he's patent for simplicity that made people think it is what it is on his patents. I just recently seen the full system of Tesla using everything that you already found.

Thank you so much Otits for the hints and clues. Yeah it is indeed that magic coil function as ACCUMULATOR of energy. ;D ;D ::)

Stupify ::)

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 14, 2013, 06:59:15 PM
Hi everyone :)

Always remember and put it in your heart and mind that our salvation is not from free energy but it is from our Lord JESUS Only!

@stuffid joke ;D
i believe that you know it buddy. cause you are always saying the vital points. ;)

Remember:
To scatter something, we don't need wire but to build something we only need wires. ;)
ok!
one thing more for me to say about tesla's technique secret, its the ACCUMULATION PROCESS
When something is made focus even how small it is, something is accumulated at the other side and it bear a strength. 8)
that's all everyone. ;) :) 8)

Otits L. Noicaro Now signing off

GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 14, 2013, 09:01:38 PM

frenergy nyone
pull half the dual rail around to charge the run bat, :o or maybe self run through a dc to dc voltage reg.
fenergy off the other rail

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on October 14, 2013, 11:01:02 PM

Thanks Dave.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 15, 2013, 04:00:57 AM

Hello Tito,
did you ever thought to envelope the Tesla condenser-coil as tube and then to think about the Ranque-Hilsch-tube or the Nano-tube -unexspected-velocity amplification ?

Turbo(lent)Hyper-sonic,with a kind of Echo ! Thermal-noise(voltaic) tube/cell
Thermal as effekt from accelerated Brownian movement
or reverse decelerated,cold/cryo effect [size=78%]![/size]

Or,like Fellows Research Group defined their disclosing invention called MMS/TAR,
a Resonator (Rueck-koppelungsmaschine)
or reversible heat-to-electric-converter or heat pump

Behind this there is the theorie : Biot-Savart (acceleration/amplifying)law !
Here the description from the process by the Bionik-Professor Ingo Rechenberg
in German language:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19850314&CC=DE&NR=3330899A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19850314&CC=DE&NR=3330899A1&KC=A1)
important disclosure in his papers:

Diese besteht darin, dass ein elektromagnetisches Feld um einen beliebig gebogenen drahtförmigen Leiter und ein Strömungsfeld um einen beliebig geformten Wirbel faden durch das gleiche Gesetz beschrieben werden, das Biot-Savartsche Gesetz. Die Grössen "Zuwachs an magnetischer Feldstärke" und "Geschwindigkeitszunahme" entsprechen daher einander. Da sich magnetische Feldstärke dadurch konzentrieren lässt, indem man einen stromdurchflossenen Leiter zu einer Spule aufwickelt, kann man auch in der Strömungstechnik eine Geschwindigkeitszunahme erzielen, indem man einen Wirbelfaden zu einer Spule aufwickelt. Ordnet man mehrere sich gleichsinnig drehende Wibel so an, dass ihre Achsen auf einem Kreis liegen, werden sie sich infolge der gegenseitigen Induktion um den Mittelpunkt des Kreises drehen. Die Induktion wächst dabei mit der Zahl der Wirbel.Die Aufspulgeschwindigkeit steigt und die Wibelfäden nähern sich der Form von dicht an dic-ht liegenden Ringwirbeln. Das Geschwindigkeitsfeld, das diese Ringwirbel in ihrem Inneren induzieren, bildet den erstrebten Konzentrationseffekt.

Tornado/Vortice:

W=1/2mv²
v with acceleration
v with deceleration

All think about "Luftspule" ~coreless coil/tube(MHD) !

Here we find also many theorie-transduced/-formed machines invented by Thomas Townsend Brown often titled as
electro(today probably as quantum)kinetic(mechanic) apparature

The reversible thermodynamic (Sadi Carnot cycle/circle/circuit )machine:
like the thermovoltaic cell(f.e. invented by Joseph Yater) or heat pump

compressor,condenser,evaporator (which makes the accelerator ?)

and the decelerator in german called: Drossel(ungs)Spule
and clearly the fluid as e-/gas:f.e. air or frigen or oxygen-butan-hexan/liquid or an solid material

it is about the electron(ion)-gas-cycle
Here I name as Referenz Dr.Helmut Reichelt,Dresden
disclosed in Ex-East-Germany DD-patent publications

Funken ( radio/radiation) aether =
ambient(from cosmic) electromagnetic waves-quants
the Moray or Dirac sea

thermovoltaic and Biot-Savart(~Ampére-Law) :
quantum- kinetic Volt and Ampére machine definition

by AM and FM tuning

Sincerely
CdL

MHD.somebody remembers the Toribio Bellocq pump invention and his description
about his finding of an aeqivalenz between the pulsing from water and pulsed AC-current ?

Don Adsitts the-very-last-page-of-the-internet :E.L.S.A. from John Hering

You searcher has to go to the www.archive.org (http://www.archive.org) to see what they means or meaned
cause R.I.P

What do you know about the effect when you have the radio on and do a call to this radio programm radio-station : headphone /microphone !
The dj will say :turn it off-your radio ! is it or not ? This is a resonance cycle

By wired and wireless communication: seriell and/or parallel

Change the velocity: W=1/2mv²

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 15, 2013, 07:15:49 AM

Under normal transformer conditions the zvs would be connected to one side and transfer energy from one coil to the other but by connecting the zvs to both coils they trade energy back and forth essentially they reach a condition where one coil assist's the others driving circuit.

Tpu anyone
one wire size throughout and the zero switching create a resonant situation, can be tuned using the caps on the zvs. The coils will be in resonance because they are same size and number of turns on both sides.
Total resonance

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 15, 2013, 07:54:02 AM

Quote from: Leely on October 14, 2013, 08:34:49 AM

What is a zvs if I may ask?

ZVS = Zero Voltage Switching

Google for the above term.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on October 15, 2013, 08:36:54 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on October 15, 2013, 07:15:49 AM
Under normal transformer conditions the zvs would be connected to one side and transfer energy from one coil to the other but by connecting the zvs to both coils they trade energy back and forth essentially they reach a condition where one coil assist's the others driving circuit.

Tpu anyone
one wire size throughout and the zero switching create a resonant situation, can be tuned using the caps on the zvs. The coils will be in resonance because they are same size and number of turns on both sides.
Total resonance

Is this a charge pump?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 15, 2013, 09:00:32 AM

In hoc signo vinces

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 15, 2013, 09:56:15 AM

Vitória de Jesus e dos Santos de Lanca , my mother her name ::) ,Tito.
But I see this only as woman and family nomen :) ,not as omen ???

Many greetings from Portugal,the land which donated the Phillipines to Spain
through marriage CdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 15, 2013, 11:53:26 AM

Quote from: forest on October 15, 2013, 09:00:32 AM
In hoc signo vinces

Which ? o or O

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 15, 2013, 02:37:52 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on October 15, 2013, 11:53:26 AM

Which ? o or O

find context

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on October 15, 2013, 03:15:09 PM

Hi everyone
two tank circuits have the same friquencies, F1=F2, C1*L1=C2*L2, BUT C1>>C2, L1<<L2.
If P1=P2, who can tell me the differences of E fields AND M fields between the two circuits. if you get anwser, and please tell me the speed of electrons in E fields and ether particles around B fields

weizisky

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 15, 2013, 04:32:28 PM

Quote from: weizisky on October 15, 2013, 03:15:09 PM
Hi everyone
two tank circuits have the same friquencies, F1=F2, C1*L1=C2*L2, BUT C1>>C2, L1<<L2.
If P1=P2, who can tell me the differences of E fields AND M fields between the two circuits. if you get anwser, and please tell me the speed of electrons in E fields and ether particles around B fields

weizisky

Hi weizisky,

So the L1C1 tank is a low impedance while the L2C2 tank is a high impedance circuit. This means that the peak AC voltage across L1C1 is smaller than across L2C2, when you apply the same power to them (assuming the losses in the tanks are comparable) while the input current to L1C1 is higher than to L2C2. This means that coil L1 has a stronger magnetic B field than L2 while the E field is higher in C2 than in C1.
I assume you mean now that the speed of electrons is higher in C2 than in C1 and the possible ether particles also have a higher speed around L1 than around L2.

Now how to proceed?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 16, 2013, 03:57:30 AM

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=siegfried+stargard (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=siegfried+stargard)

and from all his ,Siegfried Stargard,work disclosures about gravity,amplyfing et cet.
zvs-related:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=28&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19920507&CC=DE&NR=4035445A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=28&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19920507&CC=DE&NR=4035445A1&KC=A1)

A source of questions and probably for some with answers
CdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on October 16, 2013, 05:28:52 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on October 15, 2013, 04:32:28 PM
Hi weizisky,

So the L1C1 tank is a low impedance while the L2C2 tank is a high impedance circuit. This means that the peak AC voltage across L1C1 is smaller than across L2C2, when you apply the same power to them (assuming the losses in the tanks are comparable) while the input current to L1C1 is higher than to L2C2. This means that coil L1 has a stronger magnetic B field than L2 while the E field is higher in C2 than in C1.
I assume you mean now that the speed of electrons is higher in C2 than in C1 and the possible ether particles also have a higher speed around L1 than around L2.

Now how to proceed?

Hi Gyulasun, everyone

Gyulasun you are absolutely ringt. Then we can know which tank is easier to transform and stimulate energy to another tank in what kind of energy.
If you get that, you can understand ALL TESLA COIL working method. and will know which enventor's device does work., which one does not work, which one is better, which one is not. and Forest also can know why Tesla always use HV in depth.
so, you can make your free device now.

one more thing you have to think, where the free energy come from? It is not from eath, air, Zero pint, it also not from cap, coil !!!
if you get anwser, to make free energy is a piece of cake .

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 16, 2013, 06:06:37 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on October 15, 2013, 04:32:28 PM
Hi weizisky,

So the L1C1 tank is a low impedance while the L2C2 tank is a high impedance circuit. This means that the peak AC voltage across L1C1 is smaller than across L2C2, when you apply the same power to them (assuming the losses in the tanks are comparable) while the input current to L1C1 is higher than to L2C2. This means that coil L1 has a stronger magnetic B field than L2 while the E field is higher in C2 than in C1.
I assume you mean now that the speed of electrons is higher in C2 than in C1 and the possible ether particles also have a higher speed around L1 than around L2.

Now how to proceed?

F=BLI
magnetic B-field + coil + field forces difference :
Mukherjee
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19790215&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19790215&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

here the description with language translation possibility:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19790215&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19790215&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 16, 2013, 07:28:57 AM

actually free energy comes from resonance and resonance must be in resonance with energy which is directly powering Earth, simply like Tariel said, nothing complicated.
I'm still not sure about the role of HV :-( except obvious thing like Tesla first attempt to pass current through upper stratosphere where air is rarefied. With today mosfets able to pass many amperes in low voltage there is a way to make it work in low voltage too...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 16, 2013, 08:16:34 AM

My question: what is meant by using the expression "resonance",
where is "resonance" how defined ?

here are probably an answer or better an explaination trial:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=dinnan&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=Meta+c (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=dinnan&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=Meta+c)
from the first publication:

[0024] Resonance is widely misunderstood. There are several slightly differing views across all the different scientific disciplines as to what resonance represents and means to a circuit. In radio theory, resonance is accepted as special frequency and phase relationships which create a self reinforcing "boosting" effect on the signal which closes the gap of peak to RMS (Root Mean Square) power of the signal. In one aspect of audio theory, resonance is a special relationship between frequency and the characteristics of matter in an object which creates a "bootstrapping" amplification effect which causes a catastrophic destructive effect on the material. In energy theory, resonance is accepted as the alignment of the phases between the voltage and amperage of a circuit which creates an idealized energy state. This state is determined by the calculation of the power factor of the running circuit. [/font]

I am never wise enough to not to take help by people or dictionaries
CdL

(Also by my gramatical and orthographical errors
cause errare humanum est)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 09:53:53 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on October 16, 2013, 08:16:34 AM
My question: what is meant by using the expression "resonance",
where is "resonance" how defined ?

here are probably an answer or better an explaination trial:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=dinnan&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=Meta+c (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=dinnan&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=Meta+c)
from the first publication:

[0024] Resonance is widely misunderstood. There are several slightly differing views across all the different scientific disciplines as to what resonance represents and means to a circuit. In radio theory, resonance is accepted as special frequency and phase relationships which create a self reinforcing "boosting" effect on the signal which closes the gap of peak to RMS (Root Mean Square) power of the signal. In one aspect of audio theory, resonance is a special relationship between frequency and the characteristics of matter in an object which creates a "bootstrapping" amplification effect which causes a catastrophic destructive effect on the material. In energy theory, resonance is accepted as the alignment of the phases between the voltage and amperage of a circuit which creates an idealized energy state. This state is determined by the calculation of the power factor of the running circuit. [/font]

I am never wise enough to not to take help by people or dictionaries
CdL

(Also by my gramatical and orthographical errors
cause errare humanum est)

One of the best post's Iv seen in years

Been thinking about the zvs they say it is a resonant driver but is it really,
a coil has a certain resonant frequency,
when a coil and cap are powered in an LC configuration they bounce energy back and forth at a mutual frequency but is this the resonant frequency of the coil. We can change the frequency by adding capacitance or changing the number of windings so this is a tradeoff between the coil and cap but not really the resonant frequency of the coil.

Well I was going to post a link to a vid but this crazy thing will not paste

Iv been studying the A vector field for awhile now I would encourage others to study it as well I believe this is the field that transfer's energy between two coils.

You can think of the A field and B field in this manner, the B field is like an axle and the A field is like a wheel that is running on the axle but the axle is stationary whereas the wheel is spinning.
Both are linked in direction when either is reversed the other changes direction as well.

There are some really smart folks here, me Im just a country boy and not the sharpest tack in the shed but Iv always been pretty good at figuring things out :) it may be in pieces on the floor but I had a good idea about how it worked ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 09:54:49 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpEYlmsMmyw
Here we go finally

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 16, 2013, 10:55:12 AM

Buddy Dave 8) 8)

I will tell you some of my understanding to understand Tesla's novel invention. You should think simple as Tesla wanted to give it to the people on very simple and understandable illustration. The answer to your question about the resonant frequency the only and solely reason of this resonant frequency is the CAPACITANCE of both or each inductor and condenser instruments. The key to Tesla's device efficiency is the Conderser and nothing else. ::) ::) The reason to Energy Amplification is still the Condenser.

Tesla " There is no limit to the energy you can create with a Condenser. The Condenser is the most wonderful instrument ever discovered on the Universe.." :o 8) 8) Actually atomic bomb is nothing compared to Condenser. Imagination is the Limitation of every people. ;D ;D

Don Smith " Only the smart ones will figure it out" Actually not smart ones will figure it out, my nation actually lacks of better knowledge compare to USA or Russian Education.Let me tell you we need only Common Sense. ;D ;D

The zvs is a powerful oscillator, but for me Rotary Interrupter is another wonderful instrument ever invented by Nikola Tesla. ;D ;D

Quote from: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 09:53:53 AM
One of the best post's Iv seen in years

Been thinking about the zvs they say it is a resonant driver but is it really,
a coil has a certain resonant frequency,
when a coil and cap are powered in an LC configuration they bounce energy back and forth at a mutual frequency but is this the resonant frequency of the coil. We can change the frequency by adding capacitance or changing the number of windings so this is a tradeoff between the coil and cap but not really the resonant frequency of the coil.

Well I was going to post a link to a vid but this crazy thing will not paste

Iv been studying the A vector field for awhile now I would encourage others to study it as well I believe this is the field that transfer's energy between two coils.

You can think of the A field and B field in this manner, the B field is like an axle and the A field is like a wheel that is running on the axle but the axle is stationary whereas the wheel is spinning.
Both are linked in direction when either is reversed the other changes direction as well.

There are some really smart folks here, me Im just a country boy and not the sharpest tack in the shed but Iv always been pretty good at figuring things out :) it may be in pieces on the floor but I had a good idea about how it worked ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 12:30:28 PM

Yes a rotary interrupter could be used in a number of ways, pulsing multiple coils.

I have an idea for a new type of capacitor that would be open to the environment but I havent built it yet, Im working on the diagram I posted, if the desired results are not reached I plan on building the cap and giving it a go.

I agree its common sense I read stuff where people claim energy appears from other dimensions, particles disappear and reappear, extensive math equations, I believe its very simple and when we find it we will all laugh at how simple it really is.
Its just an understanding of how the fields work.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 16, 2013, 12:54:46 PM

Dave ;D ;D Keep me posted or pm me on the picture of your Condenser ;D ;D. I could give you every detail of the Magnetic Field you looking for so many years. The so called Rotating Magnetic Field. Which I am aboslutely sure that TPU, Clemente Figuera, Don Smith Toroid, The device from South America Energy from the gound works and function on this Principle the Rotating Magnetic Field = Tesla Cyclotron.

I know exactly what Condenser you will be building soon. Ha ha ha ;D ;D ;D :o

Stupify ;) 8) 8)

Quote from: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 12:30:28 PM
Yes a rotary interrupter could be used in a number of ways, pulsing multiple coils.

I have an idea for a new type of capacitor that would be open to the environment but I havent built it yet, Im working on the diagram I posted, if the desired results are not reached I plan on building the cap and giving it a go.

I agree its common sense I read stuff where people claim energy appears from other dimensions, particles disappear and reappear, extensive math equations, I believe its very simple and when we find it we will all laugh at how simple it really is.
Its just an understanding of how the fields work.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 01:02:03 PM

Sometimes we just need to get back to the basics, regroup and collect our thoughts.
There is so much info out there we can get lost in the shuffle.
This is as basic as it gets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD6NjIDs4DU
Can we formulate a theory using this basic experiment with and understanding of the fields :) sure we can.
I dont mean a math formula I mean a depiction of the fields and their directions.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 16, 2013, 01:04:01 PM

Quote from: stupify12 on October 16, 2013, 10:55:12 AM
Buddy Dave 8) 8)

I will tell you some of my understanding to understand Tesla's novel invention. You should think simple as Tesla wanted to give it to the people on very simple and understandable illustration. The answer to your question about the resonant frequency the only and solely reason of this resonant frequency is the CAPACITANCE of both or each inductor and condenser instruments. The key to Tesla's device efficiency is the Conderser and nothing else. ::) ::) The reason to Energy Amplification is still the Condenser.

Tesla " There is no limit to the energy you can create with a Condenser. The Condenser is the most wonderful instrument ever discovered on the Universe.." :o 8) 8) Actually atomic bomb is nothing compared to Condenser. Imagination is the Limitation of every people. ;D ;D

Don Smith " Only the smart ones will figure it out" Actually not smart ones will figure it out, my nation actually lacks of better knowledge compare to USA or Russian Education.Let me tell you we need only Common Sense. ;D ;D

The zvs is a powerful oscillator, but for me Rotary Interrupter is another wonderful instrument ever invented by Nikola Tesla. ;D ;D

I think that I am well educated but really low skilled in Physics :
but what I have to comment to this view and valuation of priority I mean that

the source and the resonant frequency depends one to the other
its like the relativity between hard-and software
http://www.chemgapedia.de/vsengine/vlu/vsc/de/ch/1/pc/nmr/nmr_grundlagen.vlu/Page/vsc/de/ch/1/pc/nmr/global_pages/nmr01_larmorfrequenz.vscml.html (http://www.chemgapedia.de/vsengine/vlu/vsc/de/ch/1/pc/nmr/nmr_grundlagen.vlu/Page/vsc/de/ch/1/pc/nmr/global_pages/nmr01_larmorfrequenz.vscml.html)
its about the Larmorfrequency from atom nucleus spin

and in energetic use aequivalent between nuclear plant and nuclear bomb

one as power plant cycle=Kettenmoderation
(with human error potential:Harrisburg/Cattenom/Tchernobyl)

and the other with the point of no return
effectively known as Hiroshima-Uranium bomb and Yokohama-Plutonium bomb cases

With higher frequencies(velocity) we need less hardware-quantity

but we have really to know the saturation point from the materials
or this compression will have the equal finish like the Tesla Battery car:

fire or explosion,after implosion

stupify :I estimate that this energy source is the base from the powerfull
russian thermobaric Vacuum bomb "Father of all bombs"
but the US-Army held the "Mother of all bombs"

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerosolbombe (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerosolbombe)

Quo vadis,son ?

How near do you want to go to the center: how many digits do you need ?
22/7 or 3,14..... and the other face 2,7........ e pi log

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 01:24:09 PM

Lets take one coil and look at the reaction
Does this depiction explain femf and bemf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 01:48:04 PM

Can we apply this depiction to the basic vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD6NjIDs4DU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 16, 2013, 02:01:47 PM

I think people on Earth still don't know when if World War will again happen. Bomb(what ever you call it) is nothing compared to Condenser. ;D ;D Which the Americans have already replicated all Secret Weapons of Nikola Tesla. :o :o

Tesla mention it, There is no limit of energy you can create with Condenser, than the energy created with a bomb(referring to atomic bomb). :P :P

Tesla has invented devices or weapons much advance that the Nuclear Bombs as you think is the most powerful weapon ever created. Tesla called this devices Weapons to End War. It is a device/weapon that created to search and destroy any invasion(human) or incoming weapons(missile) of the enemy. :o :o

Again you cant beat Tesla with a bomb? ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: lancaIV on October 16, 2013, 01:04:01 PM

I think that I am well educated but really low skilled in Physics :
but what I have to comment to this view and valuation of priority I mean that

stupify :I estimate that this energy source is the base from the powerfull
russian thermobaric Vacuum bomb "Father of all bombs"
but the US-Army held the "Mother of all bombs"

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerosolbombe (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerosolbombe)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 16, 2013, 02:05:22 PM

Wind the secondary coil on top of the first Primary and put another Primary on top of that Secondary coil. I think you already know pretty much how to connect the Primaries. Let me know what results you got with the simple advice i give. Let put it like a peanut butter on two slice of sandwich.

Quote from: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 01:48:04 PM
Can we apply this depiction to the basic vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD6NjIDs4DU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 02:26:41 PM

Can the presence of the A vector field be the reason we are able to induce a current into the ring or should we just keep on following the old bought and paid for physicist's and there magnetic field only theory's that have been leading us to oil dependency for so long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1ojoSgo-lU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 16, 2013, 02:40:39 PM

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=3101918A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19820819&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=3101918A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19820819&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

a. study page 30,it is an image,a drawing

Sincerely
CdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 16, 2013, 02:48:46 PM

Quote from: weizisky on October 16, 2013, 05:28:52 AM
Hi Gyulasun, everyone

Gyulasun you are absolutely ringt. Then we can know which tank is easier to transform and stimulate energy to another tank in what kind of energy.
If you get that, you can understand ALL TESLA COIL working method. and will know which enventor's device does work., which one does not work, which one is better, which one is not. and Forest also can know why Tesla always use HV in depth.
so, you can make your free device now.

one more thing you have to think, where the free energy come from? It is not from eath, air, Zero pint, it also not from cap, coil !!!
if you get anwser, to make free energy is a piece of cake .

Hi Weizisky,

It is good you agree but it would be better to read more answers instead of questions from you... No problems with questions of course, just I may not give a correct answer just because I do not know. So if you have info for instance where the energy could come from I would read you with even more interest.

By the way, Tesla wrote about electrical resonance in his paper "On light and other high frequency phenomena", see some excerpt text on it in the middle of a longer text at this link, just above Fig. 184:
http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/313irw.htm

"The magnitude of the resonance effect depends, under otherwise equal conditions, on the quantity of electricity set in motion or on the strength of the current driven through the circuit. But the circuit opposes the passage of the currents by reason of its impedance and therefore, to secure the best action it is necessary to reduce the impedance to a minimum. It is impossible to overcome it entirely, but merely in part, for the ohmic resistance cannot be overcome. But when the frequency of the impulses is very great, the flow of the current is practically determined by self-induction. Now self-induction can be overcome by combining it with capacity. If the relation between these is such, that at the frequency used they annul each other, that is, have such values as to satisfy the condition of resonance, and the greatest quantity of electricity is made to flow through the external circuit, then the best result is obtained. It is simpler and safer to join the condenser in series with the self-induction. It is clear that in such combinations there will be, for a given frequency, and considering only the fundamental vibration, values which will give the best result, with the condenser in shunt to the self-induction coil; of course more such values than with the condenser in series. But practical conditions determine the selection. In the latter case in performing the experiments one may take a small self-induction and a large capacity or a small capacity and a large self-induction, but the latter is preferable, because it is inconvenient to adjust a large capacity by small steps. By taking a coil with a very large self-induction the critical capacity is reduced to a very small value, and the capacity of the coil itself may be sufficient. It is easy, especially by observing certain artifices, to wind a coil through which the impedance will be reduced to the value of the ohmic resistance only; and for any coil there is, of course, a frequency at which the maximum current will be made to pass through the coil. The observation of the relation between self-induction, capacity and frequency is becoming important in the operation of alternate current apparatus, such as transformers or motors, because by a judicious determination of the elements the employment of an expensive condenser becomes unnecessary. Thus it is possible to pass through the coils of an alternating current motor under the normal working conditions the required current with a low E. M. F. and do away entirely with the false current, and the larger the motor, the easier such a plan becomes practicable; but it is necessary for this to employ currents of very high potential or high frequency."

This very last part: "...it is necessary for this to employ currents of very high potential or high frequency" may give answer to member forest on the question of HV or not HV...

And the above text from Tesla explains why he patented the bifilar series coil structure: he could increase the self capacitance of the coils, thus got rid of using separate, expensive capacitors and store more energy in that coil structure.

So I would like to read you take on the source of energy if you wish because I also think it is not the coil or capacitor etc. Resonance may be a canditate answer? Tesla used resonance to reduce impedance to a minimum as per his above text but was his electrical resonance condition used only for cancelling coil and capacitor reactances, I wonder?
What did he mean on the best results he obtained: ...If the relation between these is such, that at the frequency used they annul each other, that is, have such values as to satisfy the condition of resonance the greatest quantity of electricity is made to flow through the external circuit, then the best result is obtained. What is meant by best results?
Common sense says: with relatively low emf you can drive higher current through a coil with which you connected a capacitor in series to defeat reactance of the coil, and leave only the wire resistance to oppose current. What did he do with the stronger magnetic field? He surely coupled it to a secondary coil with high L value to transform up voltage to millions of volts.

And then how continue to have extra energy? Or am I off track?

Greetings, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 02:53:48 PM

You'll have to excuse me its raining and Im off work I should be in my shop but cant.
Another vid you may find interesting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afQW8FT02DM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 16, 2013, 02:54:09 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 16, 2013, 02:57:30 PM

Dave ;D If you really knows the simple so called secret of Tesla you will laugh. Maybe you are correct for naming it A vector. But what I called it is Nikola Tesla Impulse Discharge Technology. Have you tried to charge a Condenser with DC or AC and discharge it on the coil the same on the video you link. ???

The video shows how did Tesla experiment on his laboratory long time ago. Tesla's secret is not actual secret, it is a common sense. Tesla has cleverly used the Faraday Law of Induction on Coils and Capacitor Combination which resulted to Self Powered Resonant LC Tank= Energy Amplification. The video shows a simple description of the effect of Tesla Condenser Discharge= Bullet Train is the very great example of what I was referring about. ::)

This is a good information Tesla used DC to fully charged Cap, Discharged the DC into a coil to create a perfect wave of Sine Wave. I don't know which is this damped wave or undamped wave? ::) There is another situation when Dr. Dave will use High Freq or Capacitor Discharge on that video.

Meow ;D ;D

You are almost there on your experiment. If you had accepted my offer in the above post. In that path will be simple and delivered on a simple manner. I have lost my appetite to post good details on the other forum for they always drop my questions and ideas. One man name machinealive is the only person I have fully disclose the every detail about the Magnetic Field you are looking if you can convince him to make a thread then you will be told everything about that offer posted above. :P

Quote from: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 02:26:41 PM
Can the presence of the A vector field be the reason we are able to induce a current into the ring or should we just keep on following the old bought and paid for physicist's and there magnetic field only theory's that have been leading us to oil dependency for so long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1ojoSgo-lU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 02:58:23 PM

Is the field electric in nature
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xq9VVGYoSU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 16, 2013, 02:58:25 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on October 16, 2013, 02:54:09 PM
Shall I name some Tesla-related machines ?
NMR,Tomograph,tele-communication(Walky-talky was the wireless beginning),Doppler-Echograph and in small:

the kidney stone lithotripter " Destroyer : stone quaker"

Do you mean the earth(rock)tripter ?
hypersonic weapon or tool f.e. in deep sea exploration or 10.000Km/h fast Maglev-train( TRANSRAPID ) channel construction .

What kind of "silent"water is to find in the deep sea(Mariann-grave)
Heavy water
Kanzius !
Ignition !?
Detonation !
Turbolence

Sincerely
CdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 03:10:04 PM

I didnt name the field
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJsVSMQqCOM&list=PL35KItV3takg8FC37ehZbN8xaNydnxMVW

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 03:26:43 PM

A vector field

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on October 16, 2013, 03:29:46 PM

Quote from: forest on October 16, 2013, 07:28:57 AM
actually free energy comes from resonance and resonance must be in resonance with energy which is directly powering Earth, simply like Tariel said, nothing complicated.
I'm still not sure about the role of HV :-( except obvious thing like Tesla first attempt to pass current through upper stratosphere where air is rarefied. With today mosfets able to pass many amperes in low voltage there is a way to make it work in low voltage too...

forest:
actually free energy comes from resonance and resonance must be in resonance with energy which is directly powering Earth tell us a method of making free energy. not the source of free energy come from. the free energy come from the electrons which impact each other between resonance tanks. maybe it's not easy to understand that, because you dont have electron's model. free energy in above resonance tanks mean electrons kick other electrons, result: get more energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 16, 2013, 03:37:01 PM

The JK Plasma Magnetics is the correct and right concept Tesla used on his Rotating Magnetic Field= Rotating Transformer-TPU- is perfect design of the Rotating Magnetic Field, Thane Heins-which is not the real one, Barbosa and Teal Device which they perfected it., Clemente Figuera's Concept Egg of Columbus. Tesla used the Two the same Magnetic Pole(South + South) and (North + North) to Amplify the Rotation per se this category belongs to the Magnetics .

I think you have already mastered all necessary technique for the Kapanadze design. You have pinpoint all the important concept Tesla used on his Devices. The self Assisted Oscillation = Self Powered Resonant Tank Circuit. I already told you much. If you are interested on Magnetics I already told it to only one man name machinealive on the other forum.

Can you link me a document or pdf file on the Magnetics of JK Palma. Thank you for the link Dave. ;D ;D

Meow ;D ;D

Quote from: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 03:26:43 PM
A vector field

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 03:50:31 PM

I dont understand why this pic is black
Anyway here's a link to Ehrenhaft http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: truesearch on October 16, 2013, 04:02:06 PM

@Dave45:

Here is a little clearer copy of that same image.

truesearch

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on October 16, 2013, 04:03:28 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on October 16, 2013, 02:48:46 PM
Hi Weizisky,

It is good you agree but it would be better to read more answers instead of questions from you... No problems with questions of course, just I may not give a correct answer just because I do not know. So if you have info for instance where the energy could come from I would read you with even more interest.

By the way, Tesla wrote about electrical resonance in his paper "On light and other high frequency phenomena", see some excerpt text on it in the middle of a longer text at this link, just above Fig. 184:
http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/313irw.htm

"The magnitude of the resonance effect depends, under otherwise equal conditions, on the quantity of electricity set in motion or on the strength of the current driven through the circuit. But the circuit opposes the passage of the currents by reason of its impedance and therefore, to secure the best action it is necessary to reduce the impedance to a minimum. It is impossible to overcome it entirely, but merely in part, for the ohmic resistance cannot be overcome. But when the frequency of the impulses is very great, the flow of the current is practically determined by self-induction. Now self-induction can be overcome by combining it with capacity. If the relation between these is such, that at the frequency used they annul each other, that is, have such values as to satisfy the condition of resonance, and the greatest quantity of electricity is made to flow through the external circuit, then the best result is obtained. It is simpler and safer to join the condenser in series with the self-induction. It is clear that in such combinations there will be, for a given frequency, and considering only the fundamental vibration, values which will give the best result, with the condenser in shunt to the self-induction coil; of course more such values than with the condenser in series. But practical conditions determine the selection. In the latter case in performing the experiments one may take a small self-induction and a large capacity or a small capacity and a large self-induction, but the latter is preferable, because it is inconvenient to adjust a large capacity by small steps. By taking a coil with a very large self-induction the critical capacity is reduced to a very small value, and the capacity of the coil itself may be sufficient. It is easy, especially by observing certain artifices, to wind a coil through which the impedance will be reduced to the value of the ohmic resistance only; and for any coil there is, of course, a frequency at which the maximum current will be made to pass through the coil. The observation of the relation between self-induction, capacity and frequency is becoming important in the operation of alternate current apparatus, such as transformers or motors, because by a judicious determination of the elements the employment of an expensive condenser becomes unnecessary. Thus it is possible to pass through the coils of an alternating current motor under the normal working conditions the required current with a low E. M. F. and do away entirely with the false current, and the larger the motor, the easier such a plan becomes practicable; but it is necessary for this to employ currents of very high potential or high frequency."

This very last part: "...it is necessary for this to employ currents of very high potential or high frequency" may give answer to member forest on the question of HV or not HV...

And the above text from Tesla explains why he patented the bifilar series coil structure: he could increase the self capacitance of the coils, thus got rid of using separate, expensive capacitors and store more energy in that coil structure.

So I would like to read you take on the source of energy if you wish because I also think it is not the coil or capacitor etc. Resonance may be a canditate answer? Tesla used resonance to reduce impedance to a minimum as per his above text but was his electrical resonance condition used only for cancelling coil and capacitor reactances, I wonder?
What did he mean on the best results he obtained: ...If the relation between these is such, that at the frequency used they annul each other, that is, have such values as to satisfy the condition of resonance the greatest quantity of electricity is made to flow through the external circuit, then the best result is obtained. What is meant by best results?
Common sense says: with relatively low emf you can drive higher current through a coil with which you connected a capacitor in series to defeat reactance of the coil, and leave only the wire resistance to oppose current. What did he do with the stronger magnetic field? He surely coupled it to a secondary coil with high L value to transform up voltage to millions of volts.

And then how continue to have extra energy? Or am I off track?

Greetings, Gyula

Gyula,
good text. I believe you'v got most important keys from it!!! What is meant by best results? it is the moment when spark gap fires let high current pass, simply say you have 1 point in the waveform of second L , maybe you could have 3 chances, it 's up to what method be used.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 04:07:09 PM

Iv been told there's no field running in the air around a coil then what is this

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 16, 2013, 04:24:33 PM

This text presented by Gyula describes the electricity in "dielectric" behaviour.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/dielec.html (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/dielec.html)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric)

Roentgencurrent:
http://www.wissen-digital.de/Wilhelm_Conrad_R%C3%B6ntgen (http://www.wissen-digital.de/Wilhelm_Conrad_R%C3%B6ntgen)

to finally: T(Hz)-ray
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terahertz_radiation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terahertz_radiation)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 04:47:11 PM

Check this vid watch as he places a simple iron ring between the two terminals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkh7_Eyctw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkh7_Eyctw)

could we make and open capacitor like this, a plate on each side of a toroid ring

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 06:08:16 PM

cancel

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on October 16, 2013, 08:44:05 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31B7HTdhat4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31B7HTdhat4)
Didn't Steven Mark use lamp wire?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 17, 2013, 07:17:02 AM

I hope that nobody here fells himself offended by my posts
cause I am actually not in a calm position and have to think and to do many thinks
to reorganize my life and the life from my fathers family
after he,my father,died on 10/05/2013 !

I re-/searched for the common sense and the common science in and for the definition of
energy,force,electricity,work and power and their source !

I try ever to describe the meaning/opinion/view in a kindly(also childly) manner so
that unskilled people can or should understand the kinetics by my neuronal view and
if possible as open source publication with description and images/drawings or
with links to commercial workpieces which could be seen as an idea aequivalent !

I am a free man with corporal dependences but less dependant by mention of ideologies;exploring and execute good ideas- not hidden and not alone !

Pardon, if anybody understood me wrong

We will find naturekind and also our mankind -the roots -that has been the route

the Neumann man-machine( up to the naturemachine) with the Kybernetik tools

We will have the tools to convert/compress or invert/dissolve energy to material and material to energy -for digitizing/scanning and archivate the "FORMAT-genom"
Ap-/Re-plicator
the 4D-lab to the 4D-factory
lithography by Prism(a) and Spectrum Goethe/von Braun/Raman

Images are 2-dimensional,calm :translate(translatory) the direction scalar/vectorial
by Flemming and Lenz-Rule: with your hand and fingers,use your own body

give X and Y the flow ,chromosom dance

Sincerely
CdL

p.s.: release

solar/thermovoltaic cell = 1 condensator(Transistor)
to
solar/thermovotaic cell/s-array/battery =multiple condensator(Transistors)

and now

reread/study the Gyula Tesla-article :amplifying by Kaskade/cascade/array

TRANSDUCER

(of what ? Energy from Neurophone/Patrick Flanagan -view :Fullers Teleology)

From Gyulas offered Tesla-article:

When the currents are rapidly varying in strength, quite different phenomena, often unexpected, present themselves, and quite different laws hold good, which even now have not been determined as fully as is desirable, though through the work, principally, of English scientists, enough knowledge has been gained on the subject to enable us to treat simple cases which now present themselves in daily practice.[/size]

Teslas partner whose have had to translate/determinate his thinking to mathematical context has not been english cause it was a german named Karl(Charles) Steinmetz.
What happened after their partner-ship solution ?

With Mr.Steinmetz and with Mr.Tesla ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Proteus_Steinmetz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Proteus_Steinmetz)
Probably he,Charles Steinmetz, has determinated some searched answers !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 17, 2013, 10:45:12 AM

You still here ? ;) ;D ;D ;D don't you think Tesla texts are strange , like having something removed or messed with or encoded ? I think Dan Brown next book will be about Tesla and free energy mystery..... :o

" If the relation between these is such, that at the frequency used they annul each other, that is, have such values as to satisfy the condition of resonance, and the greatest quantity of electricity is made to flow through the external circuit, then the best result is obtained."

Strange indeed.... the answer you saw on this page ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 17, 2013, 12:15:41 PM

Each coil (5) (6) is performed in a carriage with nucleus of cylindrical or rectangular (15) shape, air nucleus, and two lateral covers. The coil system(16) consists of two copper tapes, separated by a dielectric of macrofol, " an insulator tape". They are simultaneously rolled up m 397 spires where are connected, in upper extremity of one of the tapes a feed cable and m the lower extremity of the other tape another feed cable. Closed the coiled process is vulcanized with epoxide resin, which gives mechanical resistance, insulation and allows its utilization m high humidity level. After this phase, a paramagnetic ( 17) nucleus is inserted inside the coil where the upper side has a width equal to the general body and the other extremity is screwed down to allow its fixing. All this system is controlled by a module that allows the variation of the polarization, constructed with materials and components existing on the market and already attested. The conjugation of several potentialities and applications of these components allow it a believable and linear behaviour in the control of the referred system. The technical range of this system stands in the present electromagnetic spectre, nevertheless is different owing the coils not having a standard behaviour in relation to the power consumption, they have not internal resistance, placing several questions of theoretical quality: According to the ohm's formula R=V/ I. With R=O and having a tension V on the coil, appear us the first theoretical difficulty to solve this equation, impossibility or irresolution. According to the Joule's formula w=I<2>xR, appears the same impossibility. According to Weber's formula Um= [psi]xRm we see that the magnetic tension (Um) is the result of the multiplication of phi ([phi]) by the reluctance (Rm) . We go on with the same impossibility. According to Lenz's formula [Delta](cos[psi])/[Delta]t we obtain that the induced electro-motive power (Ei) is the result of the division of the rate of the cosine of phi ([Delta]cos[phi]) by time variation. As cosine of phi is equal to zero, the irresolution is maintained. In practice submitted to several measures and tests we obtained a residual power consumption of 6 mA resulting more from cable feed then coil power consumption. The value of phi ([psi]) stands unaltered and equal to zero. Practical situation without theoretical justification known. [/font]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 17, 2013, 12:24:07 PM

Not-either the left,not-or the right
it is the middle image object which has been descripted in the text before

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=WO&NR=2009154492A2&KC=A2&FT=D&ND=3&date=20091223&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=WO&NR=2009154492A2&KC=A2&FT=D&ND=3&date=20091223&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

based by their demonstration
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=20317795U1&KC=U1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20040226&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=20317795U1&KC=U1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20040226&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

during a visit in Hassleben/Brandenburg/Germany in the month of December 2007
present Dr. Pavel Imris ,Dipl.-Ing Guenter Iwanek,Eng.Tiago Coelho,Technico Jorge Ferreira and I as project-initiator

With my kindliest regard
CdL

p.s.: as circuit
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=29910512U1&KC=U1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19990812&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=29910512U1&KC=U1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19990812&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

and here the Pavel Imris/Guenter Iwanek application work process description:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=20317795U1&KC=U1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20040226&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=20317795U1&KC=U1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20040226&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
with translation possibility
to see "Tabelle 1" go to "original document" page 4

p.s.II :
1919 condenser motor
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=GB&NR=157262A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19220710&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=GB&NR=157262A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19220710&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
description:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=GB&NR=157262A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19220710&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=GB&NR=157262A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19220710&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

and
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19220710&CC=GB&NR=157263A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19220710&CC=GB&NR=157263A&KC=A)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on October 17, 2013, 01:35:25 PM

Quote from: forest on October 17, 2013, 10:45:12 AM
You still here ? ;) ;D ;D ;D don't you think Tesla texts are strange , like having something removed or messed with or encoded ? I think Dan Brown next book will be about Tesla and free energy mystery..... :o
" If the relation between these is such, that at the frequency used they annul each other, that is, have such values as to satisfy the condition of resonance, and the greatest quantity of electricity is made to flow through the external circuit, then the best result is obtained."
Strange indeed.... the answer you saw on this page ::)

Acording to our textbook we studied in shcool, " If the relation between these is such, that at the frequency used they annul each other, that is, have such values as to satisfy the condition of resonance, and the greatest quantity of electricity is made to flow through the external circuit, then the best result is obtained." this is common knowledge, and you can find lot of related products in market. if you want to use this phenomenon to produce free energy, you need modify the circuit a little bite.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 17, 2013, 02:45:29 PM

QuoteI hope that nobody here feels himself offended by my posts ...

Olá Lanca,

(aceitar as minhas sinceras condolências pela morte do teu pai)

I do not think you have offended anybody here. Maybe some people do not always fully get what you really mean, due to mutual language barriers.

Thanks for all the patent references you included in your recent mails, interesting materials, need time to study them. I am puzzled by the DE3101918 (you mentioned figure in page 30) and will have to machine translate for an attempt to understand what was really meant. I just realized the inventor is the same person who filed DE3024814 which is widely known as the 'Kunel patent' (Verfahren und vorrichtung zur energieerzeugung) in these forums.
Maybe you have some more info on him? regarding how true and valid practical tests on his setups he had done.

Regarding your text quote from WO2009154492, I would like to ask what was the input voltage when the 6 mA residual current draw was measured if you could share this (maybe in a separate message)? Also I wonder what was the torque the motor may have performed under the circumstances of that input voltage and 6 mA because otherwise I do not have any meaningful data to consider how good such constructional setup is able to work. I am aware of the "capacito-magnetic coil" or "bobines capacitomagnéticas" from both the Imris (for instance WO2010003394) and Jorge Ferreira (PT104491/2) patents.

com saudações e um copo de vinho do Porto 8)

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 17, 2013, 02:54:07 PM

Quote from: weizisky on October 17, 2013, 01:35:25 PM
...
if you want to use this phenomenon to produce free energy, you need modify the circuit a little bite.

Dear Weizisky,

Could you elaborate on the little circuit modification how you really mean? To get some extra juice that is...

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 17, 2013, 03:19:15 PM

good , Tito would be proud of you ;D Let the TitoPower be with you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on October 17, 2013, 03:54:30 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on October 17, 2013, 02:54:07 PM
Dear Weizisky,

Could you elaborate on the little circuit modification how you really mean? To get some extra juice that is...

Thanks, Gyula

you push a pendulum for adding some energy to it, When you feel your speed slower than pendulum, release your hand, don't pull it more, as someboy here always say: don't kill the source. only a swich can do that.

weizisky

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 17, 2013, 06:59:34 PM

Quote from: stupify12 on October 16, 2013, 02:05:22 PM
Wind the secondary coil on top of the first Primary and put another Primary on top of that Secondary coil. I think you already know pretty much how to connect the Primaries. Let me know what results you got with the simple advice i give. Let put it like a peanut butter on two slice of sandwich.

Hey Stupify

Is this something that should have a core(toroid, ecore, etc), or doesnt matter? Pulsed or just ac to primary.

Thanks for helping. ;D These are things I have not heard of yet and would like to try, the right way if possible. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 17, 2013, 07:42:05 PM

Hello Gyula,only the examination protocol with the measured values from the
portuguese INPI office would be a help !

But not the rotor arrangement is the priority : it is the magnetic force source

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19850314&CC=DE&NR=3330899A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19850314&CC=DE&NR=3330899A1&KC=A1)

Diese besteht darin, dass ein elektromagnetisches Feld um einen beliebig gebogenen drahtförmigen Leiter und ein Strömungsfeld um einen beliebig geformten Wirbel faden durch das gleiche Gesetz beschrieben werden, das Biot-Savartsche Gesetz. Die Grössen "Zuwachs an magnetischer Feldstärke" und "Geschwindigkeitszunahme" entsprechen daher einander. Da sich magnetische Feldstärke dadurch konzentrieren lässt, indem man einen stromdurchflossenen Leiter zu einer Spule aufwickelt, kann man auch in der Strömungstechnik eine Geschwindigkeitszunahme erzielen, indem man einen Wirbelfaden zu einer Spule aufwickelt. Ordnet man mehrere sich gleichsinnig drehende Wibel so an, dass ihre Achsen auf einem Kreis liegen, werden sie sich infolge der gegenseitigen Induktion um den Mittelpunkt des Kreises drehen. Die Induktion wächst dabei mit der Zahl der Wirbel.Die Aufspulgeschwindigkeit steigt und die Wibelfäden nähern sich der Form von dicht an dic-ht liegenden Ringwirbeln. Das Geschwindigkeitsfeld, das diese Ringwirbel in ihrem Inneren induzieren, bildet den erstrebten Konzentrationseffekt.

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Therefore, the object is to create an efficient arrangement for enlarging the velocity of a gas or liquid stream that requires little effort for greater security.

The object is achieved according to the invention by the measures stated in the claims.

The invention is based on the realization that there is an analogy between electrical engineering and fluid mechanics.

This is the fact that an electromagnetic field at a desired conductor, and a curved wire-like flow field to an arbitrarily shaped vortex filament can be described by the same law, the Biot-Savart law.

The variables "increase in magnetic field strength" and "speed increase" correspond to one another.

Since magnetic field strength can be concentrated by by a current-carrying conductor wound into a coil, one can achieve a speed increase in the current art, by winding into a coil a vortex filament.

If one assigns a plurality of co-rotating weevil so that their axes lie on a circle, it will rotate as a result of mutual induction to the center of the circle.

The induction grows while the number of vertebrae.

The winding speed increases and the Wibelfäden approach the form of lying close to dic-ht ring vortices.

The velocity field, which induce these ring vortices in the interior, forms the aspired concentration effect.

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dielectric + Ampére-(Biot-Savart)-law introduced in W=1/2mv²

The search has been to find the accelerator/velocity-increaser !
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condenser~capacitor~thermopile~thermoelement:

Thermocouple coil arrangement, has thermal unit arranged about ferromagnetic core to produce strong magnetic field, and condenser connected during disconnection of thermo stream fed-coil and switched in series to absorb coil steam Inventor:GOERES HANS DIETER WILHELM [DE]Applicant:GOERES HANS DIETERWILHELM [DE]

[0001] Vorausgeschickt seien Querverweise auf: [/font]Wietz und Erfurth: Hilfsbuch für Elektropraktiker, Bd.II, Starkstromtechnik, Leipzig 1953,>Seite 32, Selbstinduktion bei Wechselstrom (Auch ein von null auf hundert beim Einschalten wachsender Gleichstrom ist im ersten Moment ein sich ändernder Strom)<;>Seite 39, Induktiver Blindwiderstand<; >Seite 41, Kapazitiver Blindwiderstand<:>Seite 44: ... eilt ein kapazitiver Strom der Spannung um 90 deg. voraus, hat also genau die entgegengesetzte Wirkung wie der induktive Strom von Motorwicklungen. Man kann daher durch Parallelschalten von Kondensatoren genügender Grösse zu Motoren deren schlechten cos(phi) ganz oder grossenteils kompensieren...<>Seite 237 ... kann ungünstiger Leistungsfaktor durch Parallelschalten eines Kondensators zum Motor auf cos(phi) = 0,8 oder mehr gebracht werden.<und Querverweis auf:Bibliografisches Institut Mannheim: Wie funktioniert das?, Mannheim 1963, Seite 34 f.,>Thermoelement:Lötet man zwei Drähte aus Metall oder Metallegierungen (z.B. Kupfer und Konstantan oder Kupfer und Eisen) zusammen (Fig. [image - see original document], S. 35) und hält eine Lötstelle auf konstanter Temperatur, während man die andere Lötstelle erwärmt, so entsteht zwischen den beiden Stellen eine thermoelektrische Spannung, die um so grösser ist, je grösser die Temperaturdifferenz an den Lötstellen ist. Diese Anordnung nennt man ein Thermoelement. Die entstandene Spannung kann an einem Voltmeter abgelesen werden. (Fig. [image - see original document], S. 35) Nach Eichung des Instrumentes kann ein Thermoelement zur Messung der Temperatur verwendet werden. Die Eichung geschieht dadurch, dass man die Höhe der Spannung bei einer bekannten Temperaturdifferenz feststellt. Da die Spannung an einem Thermoelement nur wenige Millivolt beträgt, schaltet man mehrere Elemente hintereinander (Fig. [image - see original document], S. 35). So entsteht eine Thermosäule (Lötstellen abwechselnd warm und kalt).<und Querverweis auf Bergmann - Schaefer: Lehrbuch der Experimentalphsysik, Bd.II, Elektrizitätslehre, Berlin 1956, S. 159, mit Fig. [image - see original document],>"Versuch zum Nachweis grosser Thermoströme."Obwohl ein einzelnes Thermoelement nur eine sehr kleine Thermospannung liefert, kann man mit seiner Hilfe doch verhältnismässig starke Ströme erzeugen, wenn man den Widerstand des ganzen Kreises nur klein genug macht. Biegt man z.B. einen 10 mm starken Kupferdraht A (Fig. [image - see original document]) zu einer Schleife und schliesst sie durch zwei kurze eingelötete Konstantanstücke B, so fliesst in diesem Kreis ein Strom von etwa 40 Ampere, wenn durch Eintauchen des rechtwinklig umgebogenen Drahtendes in ein Glas mit Eiswasser die eine Löstelle auf etwa 0 deg. abkühlt und gleichzeitig die andere Lötstelle auf etwa 100 deg. erhitzt, indem man das freie andere Ende des Kupferdrahtes in eine Bunsenflamme bringt. Es entsteht dann eine Thermospannungvon etwa 4,2 mal 10 hoch minus 3 <= 42 Zehntausendstel> Volt. Da der Widerstand des ganzen Kreises, der in der Hauptsache durch die beiden Konstantanstücke bestimmt wird, in der Grössenordnungvon 10 hoch minus 4 <= 1 Zehntausendstel> Ohm liegt, erhält man einen Thermostrom von 42 Ampere, der sich durch seine magnetische Wirkung nachweisen lässt. Zu diesem Zweck legt man die Kupferschleife zwischen zwei mit entsprechenden Rillen versehene gut aufeinander passende Eisenstücke C1 und C2, die dann durch das magnetische Feld der einen Stromwindung (s. hierzu S. 174) so fest zusammengehalten werden, dass man an C2 ein Gewicht von mehreren Kilopond anhängen kann.<

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[0001] Having said that cross-references are to:

Wietz and Erfurth: electric auxiliary book for practitioners, Vol.II, power engineering, Leipzig, 1953,

> Page 32, self-inductance in alternating current (A from zero to a hundred when you turn increasing direct current is at first a varying current) <;

> Page 39 Inductive reactance <,> page 41, Capacitive reactance <:

> Page 44: ... rushes a capacitive current of the voltage by 90 deg. advance, so it has exactly the opposite effect to the inductive current of the motor windings.

One can therefore by parallel connection of capacitors of sufficient size to motors whose bad cos (phi) in whole or in part compensate for large ...

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> Page 237 ... unfavorable power factor can be accommodated by connecting a capacitor to the motor cos (phi) = 0.8 or more.

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and cross-reference to:

Bibliographic Institut Mannheim: How does it, Mannheim 1963, 34 f,?

> Thermocouple:

Soldered to two wires of metal or metal alloys (eg

As copper and constantan or copper and iron) together (Fig. [image - see original document], p 35) and holds a solder joint at a constant temperature, while the other is heated soldering is produced between the two points a thermoelectric voltage , which is greater, the greater is the temperature difference in the solder joints.

This arrangement is called a thermocouple.

The resulting voltage can be read on a voltmeter.

(Fig. [image - see original document], p 35) After calibration of the instrument, a thermocouple can be used to measure the temperature.

The calibration is done in that you realize the magnitude of the voltage at a known temperature difference.

Since the voltage of a thermocouple is only a few millivolts, one behind the other on several elements (Fig. [image - see original document], p 35).

As a thermopile (alternating hot and cold solder joints) forms.

<

and cross-reference to Bergmann - Schaefer: textbook Experimentalphsysik, Vol.II, electricity, Berlin, 1956, pp. 159, with FIG [image - see original document],

> "Test for the detection of large thermal currents."

Although a single thermocouple provides only a very small thermal voltage, but you can create with the help of its relatively strong currents, if one makes the resistance of the whole circle just small enough.

Turn for

Example, a 10 mm thick copper wire A (Fig. [image - see original document]) for a loop and it closes with two short soldered Konstantanstücke B, then flows in this circuit a current of about 40 amps if by immersing the right angle bent wire end into a glass with ice triggers a cubit to about 0 deg. cooling, while the other soldered to about 100 deg. heated by bringing the free other end of the copper wire in a bunsen flame.

It then creates a thermal voltage

high of about 4.2 times 10 minus 3 <= 42 ten-thousandths> volts.

Since the resistance of the whole circuit, which is determined mainly by the two Konstantanstücke, in the order

of 10 to the minus 4 <= 1 ten-thousandth> ohms, you get a thermal current of 42 amps, which can be detected by its magnetic effect.

For this purpose you put the copper loop between two corresponding grooves provided well-coordinated matching pieces of iron C1 and C2, then the magnetic field of a Stromwindung (cf. p 174) are so firmly held together that one of C2, a weight of can attach multiple kilopond.

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[0002] It can be using mainly use the high current of the thermocouples, which can lead to strong magnet design the following machine

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 17, 2013, 08:31:53 PM

Okay ;D The key to this device have been always told by some boy name Tito to us boldly. But people here don't get the point of his hints and clues. If you look back Tito has always answered you directly to the point, but I think you people really don't understand what Tesla means on the word Tito use. Tito told you many times that hes primary is Bifilar=Tesla Bifilar Pancake. ::) ::)

Tesla Bifilar Pancake means CAPACITY not normal Inductor when in Natural Resonant Frequency/Harmonic Vibration. Capacity because of the Opposing Magnetic Field due the Parallel Wound Bifilar Series Connected Primary= Two Coils as a one Primary. Tesla has always use Bifilar on his Induction Motors and Converters/Transformer-The Electro Dynamic Induction Machine.Tesla use TWO Bifilar Primaries on his Electro Dynamic Induction Machine.That is why Don Smith told us to study the Induction Motor of Nikola Tesla to understand how did Tesla attain the Self Powered Tank Circuit. 8) 8)

On Tesla Motor he use 4 wound coils,group in two sets that means Tesla always use TWO PRIMARIES. The purpose of the TWO PRIMARIES is to destroyed the effect of LENZ LAW. It is powered with Two Phase Alternating Current, so when the first primary collapse inducing the secondary coil with a waveform IN Phase to the Second Primary Wave form and vice versa. I think you already know how to achieve high frequency Alternating Current using a DC supply.How did Tesla alternately discharge two Condenser to Power two Bifilar Primary.? :o :P

Tesla always told us that Hes Bifilar Pancake Coil is an Energy Amplifying Coils. You should look at the Tesla Bifilar Pancake as a Capacitor when in Resonance the two coils wound adjacent neutralize/cancel its magnetic field thus resulting to CAPACITY, now the Inductor Tesla Bifilar Pancake Coil function as Capacity.

As for the "dont kill the dipole" dipole means inside the Condenser. Don't kill means capacitor and coils(Primary) will be put in a Make and Break switching. That means Capacitor is part of the Generating and Charging Circuit. When you wanted to discharge the Capacitor to the Primary you only connect it to the other terminal of the primary using the Rotary Interrupter you can achieve this by Make and Break. For the speed just stay on 15,000 to 35,000cps. ;D ;D ;D

I think I already answer you everything in so called Free Energy Device. First you must understand the Electro Dynamic Induction Machine=Lenzless Converter/Transformer of Nikola Tesla. Tesla combine the rapid alternating current impulse supply to the Electro Dynamic Induction Machine Two Phase Alternating Current Supply. You have now created a Lenzless Tesla Coil.

Barbosa and Leal Device is the so called Electro Dynamic Induction Machine. As well as the TPU, Clemente Figuera, Stanley Meyer VIC. So people this is a world wide announcement please create and understand the 4 Wound Coil Induction Motor of Nikola Tesla. Tesla called this Egg of Columbus or Rotating Magnetic Field=Tesla Cyclotron=Electro Dynamic Induction Machine.

Quote from: Magluvin on October 17, 2013, 06:59:34 PM
Hey Stupify

Is this something that should have a core(toroid, ecore, etc), or doesnt matter? Pulsed or just ac to primary.

Thanks for helping. ;D These are things I have not heard of yet and would like to try, the right way if possible. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 18, 2013, 12:14:33 AM

Thanks Stupify

I had speculated that idea a while back but was not sure, and hadnt gotten to it yet. Was on other projects at the time.

So, does it have to be a 'pancake'? Would seem odd to use cakes in a motor. ;D

So, when I bifi, used as a primary and in resonance, does not get affected by loading the secondary?

Also, does it have to be a sandwich, 2 primaries and sec in the middle layer, or can it be a single bifi primary and just a single secondary?

Thanks again. ;) ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 18, 2013, 03:45:41 AM

Here a converter(flow stream amplifyer) as comercial product -with the virtualized rotor/ventilator :
http://www.dyson.de/ventilatoren.aspx (http://www.dyson.de/ventilatoren.aspx)

elektrokinetics
coreless air-coil
(windhose)

work (W=1/2mv²) velocity/speed in-/de-crease process
ac-/de-celerator

Sincerely
CdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 18, 2013, 04:34:47 AM

Gyula, do you remember :
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=2653497A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19780601&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=2653497A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19780601&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
the magnet coil turning process used by the german inventor Wolfgang Klinsing
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=2653497A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19780601&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=2653497A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19780601&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

and
who gave me the answer to the question about the formula P=....... written in his
description and the answer founded in a russian forum as an old book article about
the Biot-Savart-law :
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=2653497A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19780601&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=2653497A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19780601&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
page 5

IT WAS YOU,thanks a lot !

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Re:new clean efficient alternative energy source
#22 04.December 2005

Klinsing : P=........ ? You,Gyula,answered !
http://www.overunity.com/598/new-clean-efficient-alternative-energy-source/msg3713/#msg3713 (http://www.overunity.com/598/new-clean-efficient-alternative-energy-source/msg3713/#msg3713)
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included in the book article a disc ("pancake") magnetic lines modell

Some errors in Mr. Klinsing calculations had been to be corrected.

But repeating: the search was to construct a powerfull-strong (e-)magnet with
on/off switch process . the energy source !

Sincerely com todas as minhas obrigacoes e sem copo de vinho na mao

Oliver Christoph

http://pesn.com/2013/08/03/9602351_TMR-Effect--Tunnel_MagnetoResistance--New_Source_of_Clean_Energy/ (http://pesn.com/2013/08/03/9602351_TMR-Effect--Tunnel_MagnetoResistance--New_Source_of_Clean_Energy/)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 18, 2013, 04:40:24 AM

One primary is composed of Bifilar wound parallel connected in series. Please study and understand the the Tesla Bifilar Pancake. You can create this novel invention even you wound it cylindrical or in toroid.As long as you understand how to create a Capacitor using only Coils.

The main goal is to create Capacitor using Coils. The Copper wire is the metal plates of the Condenser, the Insulator of the wire is the Dielectric of your Capacitor. This is what happens, when we discharge supply Cap to the First Primary(Bifilar) it induced the Second Primary(Bifilar) thus You have now created a (Self Powered LC Tank)Ping pong tech of TWO Primary Inducing each other.

On the Bifilar when we feed with our source the Magnetic Field of Each Coil is opposing resulting to neutralizing effect on the Bifilar which evolve now the Bifilar into a Capacitor.Just practice to make Capacitor using only Copper coil or Wires.

The Two Primaries when both are on its Resonance the energy is being bounce back and forth between both two Primaries.The Bifilar on Resonance is inducing Electric Field and Magnetic Field at the same time the Energy is being amplified 250,000 times.

Quote from: Magluvin on October 18, 2013, 12:14:33 AM
Thanks Stupify

I had speculated that idea a while back but was not sure, and hadnt gotten to it yet. Was on other projects at the time.

So, does it have to be a 'pancake'? Would seem odd to use cakes in a motor. ;D

So, when I bifi, used as a primary and in resonance, does not get affected by loading the secondary?

Also, does it have to be a sandwich, 2 primaries and sec in the middle layer, or can it be a single bifi primary and just a single secondary?

Thanks again. ;) ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 18, 2013, 07:17:47 PM

Quote from: stupify12 on October 18, 2013, 04:40:24 AM
One primary is composed of Bifilar wound parallel connected in series. Please study and understand the the Tesla Bifilar Pancake. You can create this novel invention even you wound it cylindrical or in toroid.As long as you understand how to create a Capacitor using only Coils.

The main goal is to create Capacitor using Coils. The Copper wire is the metal plates of the Condenser, the Insulator of the wire is the Dielectric of your Capacitor. This is what happens, when we discharge supply Cap to the First Primary(Bifilar) it induced the Second Primary(Bifilar) thus You have now created a (Self Powered LC Tank)Ping pong tech of TWO Primary Inducing each other.

On the Bifilar when we feed with our source the Magnetic Field of Each Coil is opposing resulting to neutralizing effect on the Bifilar which evolve now the Bifilar into a Capacitor.Just practice to make Capacitor using only Copper coil or Wires.

The Two Primaries when both are on its Resonance the energy is being bounce back and forth between both two Primaries.The Bifilar on Resonance is inducing Electric Field and Magnetic Field at the same time the Energy is being amplified 250,000 times.

Great stuff. Its all a bit clearer now. :o ;D I believe I built a coil like this, but I suppose I didnt apply it properly. :-[ Also i like the 15khz to 35khz. Id rather it not be in the radio range or higher.

So where does the secondary come into play? Does it affect the primary function when loaded? Should the sec be between the primaries?

I really appreciate all your help. Tito did tell a lot. But I dont think I got it like this. I guess im not good at riddles. ;D Thanks anyway Teets. ;)

Im going to try some things this weekend. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 18, 2013, 09:56:27 PM

1 more question, if you dont mind. ;D I have many questions. I have only posed a very small percentage. ;)

Use of bifi in a motor. If we were to replace a normal winding of a motor, would we need to wind 2 separate bifilar windings in place of the single normal coil, or would it be that the the stator is bifilar 'and' the armature is bifilar? Back then permanent magnets were not used in motors or speakers. ;)

Sorry for so many questions. This all has made me feel a bit 'upitty' the past couple days. :o ;D :o

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 19, 2013, 01:57:28 AM

Quote from: weizisky on October 17, 2013, 03:54:30 PM
you push a pendulum for adding some energy to it, When you feel your speed slower than pendulum, release your hand, don't pull it more, as someboy here always say: don't kill the source. only a swich can do that.

weizisky

Hey weizisky

So do we want to push once in a while, or a bit each cycle? A pendulum would simulate an LC, where when the pen is at full swing upward, that would be voltage, stored pressure, and during the fast bottom swing, that would be current flow, then the swing up the other side is the neg voltage build till peak height.

So as to when we should apply the minimum 'push' to keep the pen swinging, is most likely just before or at the natural pen swing height. Left or right top swing height. it would require too much energy to try and add push while in full speed bottom swing. So we want to add push/voltage when the pen reaches or near peak, just enough to take it over the top.

But what has always eluded me is how to take energy from the pen without causing it to drastically slow down, thus needing more push to make up for it. ;D ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 19, 2013, 02:36:54 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 19, 2013, 01:57:28 AM
Hey weizisky

So do we want to push once in a while, or a bit each cycle? A pendulum would simulate an LC, where when the pen is at full swing upward, that would be voltage, stored pressure, and during the fast bottom swing, that would be current flow, then the swing up the other side is the neg voltage build till peak height.

So as to when we should apply the minimum 'push' to keep the pen swinging, is most likely just before or at the natural pen swing height. Left or right top swing height. it would require too much energy to try and add push while in full speed bottom swing. So we want to add push/voltage when the pen reaches or near peak, just enough to take it over the top.

But what has always eluded me is how to take energy from the pen without causing it to drastically slow down, thus needing more push to make up for it. ;D ;D

Mags

Tha answer is silly. You have to NOT take energy from the pen, actually you have to PUT a bit of energy each time to cover looses (or to rise amplitude if you want parametric resonance). That is the second resonance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 19, 2013, 04:28:15 AM

linear /rotational energy kind con-/inverter behaviour
with kineto-/electro dynamic (turbo)potential :

the underunity is ever the "micro/macro machina" capacity limit and not the
in/output relation cause this can be a.<1 b.=1 c >1

beginning with W=1/2mv² kinetic converter/concentrator and amplifier

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=alan+lebost (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=alan+lebost)
part of one description:

[0007] ~lowever, in the construction of twin impeller wind machines, one impeller has always been placed behind the other in paral- lel, vertical planes. Accordingly, both impellers must get their energy from the same wind field while rotating in oppo- [/font]site directions which is inefficient and causes undesirablecentrifugal forces. Furthermore, many attempts have been made to impar~ specific designs to the impellers so that they can spin in light as well as strong fluid currents. Such impellers have taken the form of exposed air foils, sails and paddles. However, many of these rotor structures are inefficient be- cause as they rotate away from the fluid force, they also must return to their starting point and therefore, must cut back into the source of fluid, which tends to retard their rotation. It will be appreciated from the above discussion that fluid powered turbines have mainly been machines placed in fluid currents to rotate from the direc~ force of that current as it moves past a rotor or impeller that is con- nected to an electrical generator. Little has been done inthe way of molding, shaping, directing, or increasing the velocity of the fluid upon the rotor arrangement. In theory, the power available ~rom a fluid current is propor~ional to the cube of the fluid current velocity. If the existing fluid velocity could be doubled, the power output would multiply by a factor of 8. An increase of 5 m.p.h. of the impinging fluid upon the rotor wherein the initial fluid velocity is in the range of 15 - 30 m.p.h., would result in [0008] 111786B doubling the power output. Therefore, the most powerful fluid driven machine would be one in which means are pro- vided to increase the velocity of the arriving fluid and which is designed for maximum efficiency.

2 rotors on 1 shaft ~ 2 Dysons "virtual rotor"-s on 1 shaft ~ 2 condenser coils on 1 shaft

here the hydraulic converter and spezific the "formula"(original document ,page 3) in the description
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=kango+iida (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=kango+iida)

According to the present invention, a turbine stage is provided which comprises a first turbine rotor which carries an internal gear and a second turbine rotor which carries planetary gears. One or more such turbine stages are mounted on a common pinion shaft in such a way that the first and second turbine rotors alternate. The first and second turbine rotors have blades which are right-handed and left-handed, respectively, so that they are rotated in opposite directions.[/font]With such arrangement as described above, the internal gear and the planetary gears can be rotated in opposite directions but at the same rotational speed, so that as compared with the conventional hydraulic turbine in which the internal gear is held stationary the rotational speed of the pinion shaft can be almost doubled. In contrast with the conventional turbine with a single bladed rotor which is rotatable only in one direction, turbine rotors which are rotated in the opposite directions are mounted alternately on the common shaft so that a helical flow of a fluid through them can be eliminated. Consequently highly efficient power conversion can be ensured.

Therefore the turbine rotors and especially their blades 11 and 12 can be relatively easily designed and fabricated which have a higher safety factor capable of withstanding sudden increases in water or wind flow due to storms and heavy rains. In addition, the hydraulic energy converter or prime mover for high-capacity electric generators, pumps, compressors, frictional heat generators or the like can be fabricated at less costs.[/font]

modular-electric motor-cascade or modular-electric generator-cascade or
roto-motorcascade-generatorcascade-verter shaft

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&TI=dynamoelectric&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=esters (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&TI=dynamoelectric&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=esters)

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19801111&CC=US&NR=4233532A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19801111&CC=US&NR=4233532A&KC=A)

and this completed with condens(ator)er-coils.

Next step: rotoric transformer to static transformer (transverter)
micronizing,array/net and so on.

Again: here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot%E2%80%93Savart_law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot%E2%80%93Savart_law)
Magnetic responses applications[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Biot%E2%80%93Savart_law&action=edit&section=6)]The Biot–Savart law can be used in the calculation of magnetic responses even at the atomic or molecular level, e.g. chemical shieldings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_shift) or magnetic susceptibilities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_susceptibility), provided that the current density can be obtained from a quantum mechanical calculation or theory.

Maxwells displacement(also Verschiebungs-/Blind/wattless ) current appliance : condenser coil

and
http://pesn.com/2013/08/03/9602351_TMR-Effect--Tunnel_MagnetoResistance--New_Source_of_Clean_Energy/ (http://pesn.com/2013/08/03/9602351_TMR-Effect--Tunnel_MagnetoResistance--New_Source_of_Clean_Energy/)
you get the history from the past -up to the possible own science - facts based-fiction/vision

Sincerely
COWdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 19, 2013, 07:34:57 AM

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/154830/Richard_Feynman__No_Ordinary_Genius_Documentary/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 19, 2013, 11:00:21 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 18, 2013, 07:17:47 PM
Also i like the 15khz to 35khz. Id rather it not be in the radio range or higher.

So where does the secondary come into play? Does it affect the primary function when loaded? Should the sec be between the primaries?

Mags

Don't mind the secondary as long as you wound it near or perpendicular to the primary coil :P ::). As for does it affect the primary- it doesn't affect the primary at all ::) 8) :o ;D :D.This what Tesla called loose coupling which can permit to great resonant rise. :D ;D ::) :P :-*Think of the secondary as a peanut butter or any sandwich spread, how do you eat sandwich and sandwich spread= separately? or together spood feed or alternately spoon feed to your mouth? ;D ;D ;D I think you spread the sandwich spread to the sandwich> Right? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 19, 2013, 11:15:12 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 18, 2013, 09:56:27 PM
1 more question, if you dont mind. ;D I have many questions. I have only posed a very small percentage. ;)

Use of bifi in a motor. If we were to replace a normal winding of a motor, would we need to wind 2 separate bifilar windings in place of the single normal coil, or would it be that the the stator is bifilar 'and' the armature is bifilar? Back then permanent magnets were not used in motors or speakers. ;)

Mags

If I were to replace a normal winding of a Magluvin Motor?, I don't need to wind 2 separate bilifar windings in place of the single normal coil either it is the rotor or the stator/field coils. I will wound 2 coils(BIFILAR) on stator or rotor, which is parallel wound connected in series-Coil A and Coil B, I will connect the ending of Coil A to the Starting winding of Coil B. We now only have two terminal=the Starting of Coil A and Ending of Coil B. 8) 8) :o

We are only dealing here with a Magluvin Motor, because of the limited space on the motor we cant make the Self Powered LC Tank on this motor. IF you want to wound Generating Coil in Bifilar mode like how Thane Heins made his RegenX, you will get a good performance. :o :o 8) ;D ;D

Meow ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 19, 2013, 02:12:23 PM

I got the coils wound and did some preliminary testing, no power measurements yet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 19, 2013, 02:13:32 PM

The bifilar coils

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 19, 2013, 04:38:35 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on October 17, 2013, 07:42:05 PM
Hello Gyula,only the examination protocol with the measured values from the
portuguese INPI office would be a help !

Hi Lanca,

Do I have to pay for the INPI if I wish to to get the examination protocol? I would appreciate if you could give link on such INPI rules.

Thanks for pointing out the quoted parts from the German patent and also for the quotes from the Wilhelm text too., still digesting and reading the rest.

rgds, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 19, 2013, 04:52:09 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on October 18, 2013, 04:34:47 AM
Gyula, do you remember :
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=2653497A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19780601&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=2653497A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19780601&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
the magnet coil turning process used by the german inventor Wolfgang Klinsing
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=2653497A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19780601&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=2653497A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19780601&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

.....

Hi Oliver,

Yes I remember of course and I am pleased I could help answering the questions. (Yes, there were calculation errors too in the Klinsing patent.)

QuoteSincerely com todas as minhas obrigacoes e sem copo de vinho na mao

Eu só queria dizer, apenas animar e não fique triste sobre perda de teu pai, isso é tudo, me desculpe.

rgds, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 20, 2013, 03:28:39 AM

Hello Gyula,nada para desculpar. Eu tenho percebido.Mas tambem que a morte faz parte da vida.
Mas aquando um vinho eu prefero um Moscatel da peninsula de Setubal.

Sobre o INPI eu vou tentar de falar com o Senhor Dr.Santos porque vai ser ele que eventualmente tem os papeis/documentos ou nos-em conjunto-vamos pedir o INPI por uma copia.( o processo judicial entre ENVEZ/Dr.Santos e o Jorge Ferreira esta ainda no tribunal) .

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 20, 2013, 03:37:34 AM

Determinating energy forces from the bionik sphere :
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=max+mueller+friedrich (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=max+mueller+friedrich)

Bionik force: in trees from co-/adhaesion pulsing/pumping : Turgor
actio/reactio(law)
attraction /re-puls-ion

Turgor pressure - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://www.google.pt/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDoQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTurgor_pressure&ei=JY1jUpbbGOWI7AbZ74DQAw&usg=AFQjCNGpWZQUIVS2UGvE3o4GrI45dlSjqA)

[size=78%]Turgor pressure pushes the plasma membrane against the cell wall of plant, bacteria, and fungi cells as well as those protist cells which have cell walls.[/size]

the work process transducted to a machine process:

images:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=2429086A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19760115&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=2429086A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19760115&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
comparing with John Herings E.L.S.A. GRAVITY MILL
http://web.archive.org/web/20040610181420/http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/menu/main.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20040610181420/http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/menu/main.htm)

here an e- magnet:
how many input Watts(VoltAmpere) for how many Newtons out ?

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19971106&CC=DE&NR=19706659A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19971106&CC=DE&NR=19706659A1&KC=A1)

comparing with the Jakelj-motor:
http://maddsci.tripod.com/george/id11.html (http://maddsci.tripod.com/george/id11.html)
can outperform any existing electric motors now in use or undergoing testing by a factor of at least 1000 in terms of torque out for watts in, making it the most

my conclusion:
we need an -open source- (H)EUREKA project -like the comercial
freedom d-/arpa program-
and to bring the X-FILES from archive.org and www.espacenet.com (http://www.espacenet.com) from their
shadow-existence to light and to realize:

image to C.A.D.(alog) and FEMM-simulation and then to graphical C.N.C.-machine

also to understand -static images-movement:
http://web.archive.org/web/20061214022404/http://www.chinajiaxue.com/images/jx-38.gif (http://web.archive.org/web/20061214022404/http://www.chinajiaxue.com/images/jx-38.gif)
for this:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19830729&CC=JP&NR=S58127557A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19830729&CC=JP&NR=S58127557A&KC=A)
and:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19970307&CC=JP&NR=H0965643A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19970307&CC=JP&NR=H0965643A&KC=A)
to finally:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A)

for understanding how the working process happens:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19991224&CC=JP&NR=H11356033A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19991224&CC=JP&NR=H11356033A&KC=A)

in a condenser(like an evacuated motor-gear-generator)-coil

by exploring the "Tornado"-Keim(Impuls)-Wirbelfaden(squirl/hose)-
crescendo/nascent point -to-crise
(expression/micro-to-mega)
crise -to-point
(com-/impression/mega-to-micro) phenomen

like an Archimedes screw(squirl)

the Tornado in a Cap(acitor: not to misunderstand this as brainstorming)
and by all my faith I will actually not consume Popcorn

Archimedes: medir os archivos

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2013, 03:53:33 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on October 19, 2013, 02:12:23 PM
I got the coils wound and did some preliminary testing, no power measurements yet

Nice Dave. ;D What freq is it running at?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on October 20, 2013, 05:00:19 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 19, 2013, 01:57:28 AM
Hey weizisky

So do we want to push once in a while, or a bit each cycle? A pendulum would simulate an LC, where when the pen is at full swing upward, that would be voltage, stored pressure, and during the fast bottom swing, that would be current flow, then the swing up the other side is the neg voltage build till peak height.

So as to when we should apply the minimum 'push' to keep the pen swinging, is most likely just before or at the natural pen swing height. Left or right top swing height. it would require too much energy to try and add push while in full speed bottom swing. So we want to add push/voltage when the pen reaches or near peak, just enough to take it over the top.

But what has always eluded me is how to take energy from the pen without causing it to drastically slow down, thus needing more push to make up for it. ;D ;D

Mags

Hi Mags

you can push once, then take out energy from many cycles of damped oscillation, as some boy saisd: knok bell once, collect rings. or give a push in every cycle to make more energy.
you can at the HV point, or H Current point to push , and to collect extra energy, but can not at the same point and same time to do 2 things above.
every push not only for add more energy to overcome losses, the aim is to produce extra energy(kicks)!
about the way of how to take energy out, I agree with stufy's suggestion from Tesla. or you can use the way like collect bell ring energy above.

weizisky

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 20, 2013, 09:15:51 AM

What the researcher has to do is to see the Motor-Generator-shaft as center coil
and the motor-coils and generator-coils as the center circumstanding bi-filiar coil(s)

Now it is to understand that the energy system can be explored
by HV -or not,by HF -or not,by pulsed DC-or not ....
it can be explored in conventional manner,no special skills important,only the right
configurated material ( scratch recycling and scan 3D and replicate)

choose your own static/rotoric e-pulse pump

Have a good Day
OCWdL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 20, 2013, 01:14:28 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 20, 2013, 03:53:33 AM
Nice Dave. ;D What freq is it running at?

Mags

Hey Mags
Its running about 20 khz drawing about 4.5 amps nothing special so far, I still want to dump it into a dual rail, Iv got the parts just need to assemble everything.
Iv got a scope and some analog meters on the way should be here next week, Im going to try and get it to run at the res freq of the coils, will be neat to see what happens if anything.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on October 20, 2013, 03:14:17 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on October 20, 2013, 03:28:39 AM
Hello Gyula,nada para desculpar. Eu tenho percebido.Mas tambem que a morte faz parte da vida.
Mas aquando um vinho eu prefero um Moscatel da peninsula de Setubal.

Sobre o INPI eu vou tentar de falar com o Senhor Dr.Santos porque vai ser ele que eventualmente tem os papeis/documentos ou nos-em conjunto-vamos pedir o INPI por uma copia.( o processo judicial entre ENVEZ/Dr.Santos e o Jorge Ferreira esta ainda no tribunal) .

Hello Oliver,

Obrigado por tentar falar com o Dr. Santos nos papéis / ou uma cópia do INPI, e espero que o Sr Dr Santos vai estar com uma atitude positiva.

Tudo de melhor,
Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 20, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChFeFnYmb1Y

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2013, 04:22:20 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on October 20, 2013, 01:14:28 PM
Hey Mags
Its running about 20 khz drawing about 4.5 amps nothing special so far, I still want to dump it into a dual rail, Iv got the parts just need to assemble everything.
Iv got a scope and some analog meters on the way should be here next week, Im going to try and get it to run at the res freq of the coils, will be neat to see what happens if anything.

Thats a nice low freq for the windings I see. You have those caps stacked across the coil, and if you take some away, the freq climbs? I think what we need to do is have most or all the capacitance 'within' the coil. Im thinking that the bifi coils work a bit differently than just a cap and coil lc. Its possible that your coil setup would be at very high freq(way beyond 20k) if you removed those caps and relied on the winding capacitance alone. I dont know if your circuit would operate at what ever those freq may be, but it would be interesting to see the difference if any. ;) Or use finer wire for the windings and more turns to increase the coils capacitance so it operates in the freq range that you are working with now.

In the Utkin papers, he shows oppositely wound coils facing each other and series connected in the middle. Its not clear if he used bifi for each opposing coil, but he does specify bifi in other parts of the paper. As I see it, the paper as a whole is a description of ingredients that are put together to make 1 device. So it is possible that what Stupify says, as to the opposing coils are each bifi themselves and the Utkin paper needs more thought when reading. If people dont make that connection from the papers, then maybe they cant get good results because of trying to build with just single conductor windings. ??? ;) ;D

One thing that I find different between what Stupify describes and Utkin, is that from what I get from Stupify is that the 2 coils mag fields oppose(from what I understand) and Utkin shows the electrical field is opposed but mag field is not.

In the end, we have new avenues to try from each. Its possible that you may have to rewind 1 side of you coil the other direction and test. I like that big core. :o ;D You buy that?

Reading my switching power supply design books, they recommend staying away from resonant freq of the inductors/transformers used and recommend switching to be at least 5 to 10 times lower than the SFR self resonant freq. Seems odd that we are trying to achieve things that disregard those published recommendations. :'( :-[ ;D The books only cover the subject in less than half a page. But I find it interesting enough to 'see' what they didnt say. One other thing was that the windings should be well insulated, with even some distance, from the core, as the core could increase parasitic capacitance and lower the SFR of the coil. I dont know if close winding to the core would affect a bifi winding, how it should work, negatively or positively. Lots of things to consider. If it is a multi layer winding directly on the core, the inside windings could have more capacitance than the outer layer, possibly affecting the bifi SFR, hopefully in a good way. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 20, 2013, 09:36:35 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 20, 2013, 04:22:20 PM

In the Utkin papers, he shows oppositely wound coils facing each other and series connected in the middle. Its not clear if he used bifi for each opposing coil, but he does specify bifi in other parts of the paper. As I see it, the paper as a whole is a description of ingredients that are put together to make 1 device. So it is possible that what Stupify says, as to the opposing coils are each bifi themselves and the Utkin paper needs more thought when reading. If people dont make that connection from the papers, then maybe they cant get good results because of trying to build with just single conductor windings. ??? ;) ;D

One thing that I find different between what Stupify describes and Utkin, is that from what I get from Stupify is that the 2 coils mag fields oppose(from what I understand) and Utkin shows the electrical field is opposed but mag field is not.

In the end, we have new avenues to try from each. Its possible that you may have to rewind 1 side of you coil the other direction and test. I like that big core. :o ;D You buy that?

Mags

Mags and Dave.

Let me remind you to study and read the Tesla Patent Coil for Electro magnets. Look for the word neutralizing-those you will understand what I am talking about. The Vladimir Uttkin is a great paper, everything told there is correct but only the expert on this field of research could understand those being presented there. :P ::) :o

Look closely the Tesla Bifilar Pancake winding and how did Vladimir Uttkin describe it on a cylindrical form. Everything is related and the same, but it is difficult for the minds which directly study the advance machine of Tesla. For me it is a average concept and ideas, As I already master the Rotating Magnetic Field of Nikola Tesla. :o

Meow ;D ;D ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2013, 10:21:35 PM

Quote from: stupify12 on October 20, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
Mags and Dave.

Let me remind you to study and read the Tesla Patent Coil for Electro magnets. Look for the word neutralizing-those you will understand what I am talking about. The Vladimir Uttkin is a great paper, everything told there is correct but only the expert on this field of research could understand those being presented there. :P ::) :o

Look closely the Tesla Bifilar Pancake winding and how did Vladimir Uttkin describe it on a cylindrical form. Everything is related and the same, but it is difficult for the minds which directly study the advance machine of Tesla. For me it is a average concept and ideas, As I already master the Rotating Magnetic Field of Nikola Tesla. :o

Meow ;D ;D ;)

Hey Meow. ;D

Yep, I know what he means by neutralize. ;) I think I thought of the possibility of the neutralizing effects between mutual coils, back in this thread somewhere. But now you are reinforcing those thoughts. ;)

Been going through all my stuff, cores, wire, etc. to come to a finalization of what to build and what with. Still working on it. ::) Daves core has me a bit intimidated. :o ;D lol just kidding I generally work small at first.

Yeah, I think I have the patent down pat. So now is time to apply what we know here, thanks to having a bit of encouraging direction. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 20, 2013, 11:09:04 PM

I got the core from an older flyback transformer its really not that big just looked like it in the pic.
Im thinking of rewinding using three wires, I think Im catching the bemf off the primary's so Im going to run a trifilar and loop the field back into the tranny before collecting.
I may have to draw that out, see pic
I want to use the energy in the secondary to create another field before pulling it out.

I played with the circuit most of the day the only way I could get the amp draw to go down I added a second choke with opposing windings and a magnet on the core, dropped the amp draw by a little over an amp.
Im not sure how much it effected the output need to get my meters in.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 21, 2013, 03:09:48 AM

http://www.rexresearch.com/markov/markov.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/markov/markov.htm)

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/110079 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/110079)
http://www.patentbuddy.com/Patent/4687947 (http://www.patentbuddy.com/Patent/4687947)
and here to come in contact:

US Patent No: 4,687,947 ... Inventor Name, Address, # of filed Patents, Total Citations.Cobb, Melvin, 239 E. 69th Way, North Long Beach, CA 90805, 1, 4 ..

http://www.whitepages.com (http://www.whitepages.com)

Tanaka Saburo ( (https://www.google.pt/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDYQ7gEwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftranslate.google.pt%2Ftranslate%3Fhl%3Dde%26sl%3Den%26u%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.patentbuddy.com%2FPatent%2F4687947%26prev%3D%2Fsearch%253Fq%253Dmelvin%252Bcobb%252Bpatent%2526biw%253D800%2526bih%253D455&ei=FtxkUpbgHdCqhAeByIDYAw&usg=AFQjCNFb91NNy0VIjt9imcEs2ZFFauUKtw&bvm=bv.54934254,d.Yms) http://ens.tut.ac.jp/squid/tanakas.html (http://ens.tut.ac.jp/squid/tanakas.html) :the same ?)
power amplifier/multiplier/-fier f.e.
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20050922&CC=JP&NR=2005261097A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20050922&CC=JP&NR=2005261097A&KC=A)

and Keiichiro Asaoka magnetic field amplifier and converter:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=21&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990720&CC=US&NR=5926083A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=21&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990720&CC=US&NR=5926083A&KC=A)
also remembering Charles and brother Flynn static PPT magnetic force amplifier.

reading the Asaoka-description you will see:
but there is not only one direction,one line :its bi-directional and multi-lined like an
Saturn-ring and resonance is also to explore between generator and load.
Like action/reactio sonance/resonance B/EMF

the work is to errect the bridge to open the gate and/or to close : by switching
and to divide et impera by bypass-operation (feedback)

http://www.magneticsolutions.com.au/fluxgraphs-entry.html (http://www.magneticsolutions.com.au/fluxgraphs-entry.html)
e/pm-magnetic force amplifying
http://www.magneticcreations.com.au/magnet-force-calc.html (http://www.magneticcreations.com.au/magnet-force-calc.html)

http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/harwood5.jpg (http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/harwood5.jpg)
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/harwood4.gif (http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/harwood4.gif)

What all listeners can see is that all delivered informations are mostly "open source",
national patents/utility applications (ever comercial ,not private sphere influencing), if temporal or office awarded guilty/valid, only national valid;

so an US-citizen can use free and also comercial a JP application object and vice-versa, european citizens fre US-application and vice-versa;
the world can use free comercial and in and for the private sphere-not valid or not awarded WO-applications;
there is a world-wide information change freedom -manage it yourself

material sources deliverer spending technical application exploring information;

there is also the possibility to find alternatively- to awarded patent objects- same applications but applied in other countries and probably with earlier priority dates:

nobody is perfect and also not patent office employees world-wide
- independant from their ranks and titles

Probably the Altschuler concept http://www.aitriz.org/ (http://www.aitriz.org/) release some information management questions and answers about "egg and coque/chicken ?" solutions

and see the world like the guys (write, speak and spell :) from the european RTL
Saturday night-show",with slapstick and often irony how Issak Asimov descripted the scientifical history and the possible future- errors -outing-included) :

"Kentucky schreit ficken" free recitating of "Kentucky-fried-chicken"

what this means ? the german version ? I do not know it exactly cause how I soon have written I am African, so you can also exspect(exspectare:latin) to get a translation full with "black humor" and I am soooooooo shy :-[

J'aime,j'aime la vie... EUROVISION SONG CONTEST 1986: Belgique,douze points !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJKFT0VUyf4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJKFT0VUyf4)

During this year 1986
( New Wave/Nouvelle v(o/a)gue/Neue Deutsche Welle tempus )
I studied the social/political economy books ( dated 1959)from my father and I found informations about
"The golden Bank-rule"( describing the violence of human rights:
based by abusing tactics: Massetraegheit-condition ) :

Banking based by fake ( It is an academic knowledge and tool )

and the "(Gregory)Kings Rule" about analytical exploration from the actio/reactio behaviour between producer and consumer based by wheat-market-observation:

the Goldstandard and so the Dollar( up to the seventiees) were bushel-wheat related and so there has been a trinity relationship;
today instead Gold there is an existence from a Dollar-fossil oil relation

I do not like lyer ! Faking and lying to the the world means faking and lying also the own family,the friends,the own community,doing something against the own personality !

So I decided not to become an "economist". Too much bull and bear "Mist".
(shortly:BS)
But "Mist" can be converted(hum-us) also as cement can be a source of energy.
This are ideas based by eco-and logic,ecology.

As "zoon politicoon" I think that we need a world-wide impeachment process:
the grandfathers and fathers and brother generation abuse/-s,abused or was/were abused :
we need transparancy and that the "Best" will have to recognize that they are the"greatest violators" ,neither aristocratic nor their future behaviour dynastical !The show has ended.

One reason not to apply for ranks and titles. Violation ranking indicator !

Neither Academia nor Agora/Templum/Church safed the majority.

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profan/saecular and/or sacral:

common sense anglo(DK)-saxonic(DE),aenglisch,english(GB)
communism manifest german(DE)
volonté general manifestation french(FR)

also meant and written as
confirmation/confession
constitution
known f.e. as "bill of (w)rights"

not less not more :
from classical religion law to
religion law completing estate laws

Symbols:
egalité,fraternité,liberté Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Mademoiselle Liberté/Marie (Marianne)
for EUROPE old world
Le Havre(small model)

to

New-Amsterdam/New York (greater)
Las Americas new world
(Americo Vespucci,cartograph)

Vive,la Liberté !
Liberté: quantité,qualité for me/the individual others?

Did you know ? It is important ?

Lenin: catholic,he exspecting,waited and organized the U.S.S.R. for
probably an happening like this:
Fatima(Ourém) prophecy object: 31.12.1999/01.01.2000 3K

A french (1/2) Billionary, communist
Why not ?

For many a surprising world with such often irrated wishes and views

What has been the reason for the 100years-war(GB-FR),the30-years-war(central europe) ,the reaction to the "Emscher Depesche":

the sender/emissioner did not understand that the intelligence (legere-readings) and/or the translation the capacity from the depesche/ukas/bulle/letter -receiver was limited or small,so in consequence, million of europeans had to die,became injured,had to leave their homest(e)ad and patrimony and colonized new civilizations.

Only cause a little piece of paper !
Diplomacy ?
Doyen ?

Boston Tea Party (corrected ::) by syntax logic :)Boston Chá Party:

"por ti !" said the Queen Catharina in portuguese, offering to an english Madame
a cup of liquid but the Madame understood this phrase/sentance wrong and thought that this liquid would be denominated "Ti,phonetical "Tea"
but the Queen Catharina said,translated from portuguese to english/french
"For you/por toi!"
cause "Tea" has the real denomination in Portugal "Chá" .

Only cause the "shy :-[ ?" Madame did not asked for "right or not-my thinking ?" When the several humans/people not ask about statements,the understanding/the facts, there will be manifested a kind of stupidity like this example aboth,also by ordinary Royals but also by ordinary people like me and you and our wealth and conscience will only be buld by rumors.without fundaments .

And cardinary personalities are very seldom.These several people who ask one time,two times,three.....,up to the moment to get the answer written or constructed ;)

Now there is a great/small bridge to a great/small gate: but how and which language has to be used in the quantum cosmos ?

Esperamos e tomamos um copo de Chá,ja somos breve dos 5°horas
da tarde, it is "(POR) ti-time"

Many greetings from Vila Chá,Portugal(POR)

p.s.: catholicism goes before Jesus Criste(Messias,Prophet,teacher)

catholic means perfect and only :
Der Kreis ist heilig ! Pythagoras Heilig /Hol(l)y/Saint = O
the crise is saint

why and how they,our ancients,transduced/transformed the eternity symbol
O to +

going virtual to Ireland,base for the european
bible philosophy mission(ary)
bringing "civilization" to the
tribes[(tribu(Stamm:plant/folk),tribunal/tribune]

Patrick,Winfried,Willibald,Bonifatius and some more Apostel :
Kyrillic-orthodox ? or romanic/latin : the mission language ?

soft or hard spelling : all the letters or like : I (k)now(noscere) (cog)nos
cognition
my com(b)/Kamm

a,e,i,o,u

O : crise, Kreis, croise (Je croi(e): in-quis ?)
+ : cruz, Kreu(t)z cruis(-ader) Kroes-us ?

the irish cross + in O :

Pi~3,14... speaking phonetical [: Pai] ? or [Pee]
Papa

Kirche,"Koersch"(saxonic Platt-Dialekt),Church(anglo-saxonic)
igreja,iglesia Kirke-nes/Greece POR ESP

What do we know about Monogramm and Pictogramm (Ikon),Symbols ?
X Chi and P Rho
and later accomplished with A alpha et O O-mega
JHS also IHS exspelling the gracian alphabet litras phonetical [Jesu]

Jesu: jewish,islamic and catholic community preacher and teacher

The bible formed the fibel ,the education book for the pupils/scholars,
to learn reading -writing and calculating(algebra et geometria)
to do justice(iustitiare) Dekalog
and to become gentil people by confession and working out in profession
and to dream about ancient times: during the paradise vacation
and to working out the mission with the community:
bring us back to the paradise future

paradise/paraiso(fenike,phoenician:today geographical Turk-iye) also
Eden/Even/(h)eaven or Garten/Yarden/Jardim

Who destroys some part of the earth,destroy some part of our and our next paradise

Think(pro/contra comparing and balancing) first,actuate later

And search for same deformated and misleading formulas/informatic language errors in the electrotechnician world: there will be some,beginning with false lingual translation german/english -french/english and so on ......
Joule,Watt,Tesla,Faraday,Maxwell,Newton,Gallilei,Vinci,......: mother-language ?

Emmanuel Kant,behind the 1-10.Dekalog-Kategories
11.kategorischer Imperativ: Just work it out !

Harmony laws ( f.e Dale Carnegie/Dr. Joseph Murphy teaching/coaching):
how do the people sonate/resonate their inner voice and their wishes:
o for O ? O for o ? o for o? O for O ?

IO,Jo,IOVE,10,IOVEM

In-quis do I believe,you,they
intimity ?

Vater(Father),Sohn(Son),Heiliger Geist(Espirito Santo) ?
Ich- Uber-ich - ES
me-myself-I

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 21, 2013, 09:29:35 AM

Trying to understand how the field works
If the field only reversed using ac to drive the coil it would be easy, but using dc we have bemf that reverses the polarity of the coil so this indicates the field is collapsing in reverse, if it continued in the forward direction there would be no bemf.
If the field ran opposed to the current direction all the time (as I once thought) then there would be no femf, so the field must grow in one direction then reverse and collapse in the other.
The bemf keeps us from tapping a coil like a flywheel, SM figured out how to stop bemf Im not sure but I have an idea how he did it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 21, 2013, 09:44:18 AM

The only way to stop bemf is to feed directly into another coil then when the pulsed coil stops conducting there would be no field to reverse.
I think this can be done using two toroids watch this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkh7_Eyctw the electric arc cannot pass through the barrier (iron toroid) but I bet if there was a conductive path (winding on the toroid) through the toroid the arc would pass through, through the conductor.
The same would be true if the field were electric it would have to enter the conductor to pass through the barrier, effectively capturing the field, so no field left to cause bemf.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 21, 2013, 10:03:03 AM

Gota go late for work :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 21, 2013, 04:45:12 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_Catholic_cleric-scientists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_Catholic_cleric-scientists)
A-Z extraction,thread relevant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Buridan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Buridan)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Casati (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Casati)
Casati's Terra machinis mota[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paolo_Casati&action=edit&section=2)]The astronomical work Terra machinis mota (1658) imagines a dialogue between Galileo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo), Paul Guldin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Guldin), and Marin Mersenne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marin_Mersenne) on various intellectual problems of cosmology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmology), geography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography), astronomy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy) andgeodesy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesy). For example, they discuss how to determine the Earth's dimensions, floating bodies, the phenomena of capillarity, and also describe the experiment on thevacuum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum) made by Otto von Guericke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Guericke) in 1654. The work is remarkable for the fact that it represents Galileo in a positive light, in a Jesuit work, only 25 years after Galileo's condemnation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair) by the Church.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenio_Barsanti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenio_Barsanti)
FatherEugenio Barsanti(12 October 1821 – 19 April 1864), also named Nicolò, was an Italian engineer, who together with Felice Matteucci (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felice_Matteucci) of Florence invented the first version of the ]internal combustion engine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine) in 1853. Their patent request was granted in London on June 12, 1854, and published in London's Morning Journal under the tile "Specification of Eugene Barsanti and Felix Matteucci, Obtaining Motive Power by the Explosion of Gasses

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicol%C3%B2_Arrighetti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicol%C3%B2_Arrighetti)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Bolzano (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Bolzano)
Wissenschaftslehre (Theory of Science)In his 1837 Wissenschaftslehre Bolzano attempted to provide logical foundations for all sciences, building on abstractions like part-relation, abstract objects (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_object), attributes, sentence-shapes, ideas and propositions in themselves, sums (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mereology) and sets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_(mathematics)), collections, substances, adherences, subjective ideas, judgments, and sentence-occurrences. These attempts were basically an extension of his earlier thoughts in the philosophy of mathematics, for example his 1810 Beiträge where he emphasized the distinction between the objective relationship between logical consequences (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_consequence) and our subjective recognition of these connections. For Bolzano, it was not enough that we merely have confirmation of natural or mathematical truths, but rather it was the proper role of the sciences (both pure and applied) to seek out justification (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_justification) in terms of the fundamental truths that may or may not appear to be obvious to our intuitions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholomeus_Amicus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholomeus_Amicus)
Bartholomeus Amicus[/size] (1562–1649), or Bartolomeo Amico or Bartholomeo d'Amici, was a Jesuit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesuit)priest, teacher and writer who spent his adult life in Naples (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naples). The subjects he wrote about includeAristotelian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle) philosophy, mathematics, astronomy, and the concept of vacuum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum) and its relationship with God.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedetto_Castelli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedetto_Castelli)
He was a long-time friend and supporter of his teacher, Galileo Galilei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei), and in turn teacher to Galileo's son (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincenzo_Gamba). He assisted Galileo's study of sunspots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunspot) and participated in the examination of the theories ofNicolaus Copernicus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus). Castelli was interested in mathematics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics) and hydraulics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulics). He was appointed as a mathematician to the University of Pisa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Pisa), replacing Galileo, and later at the University of Rome La Sapienza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Rome_La_Sapienza)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Callan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Callan)
Callan was ordained a priest in 1823 and went to Rome to study at Sapienza University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapienza_University_of_Rome), obtaining a doctorate in divinity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_divinity) in 1826. While in Rome he became acquainted with the work of the pioneers in electricity such as Luigi Galvani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Galvani)(1737–1798) who was a pioneer in modern ]obstetrics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obstetrics) and Alessandro Volta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandro_Volta) (1745–1827) who is known especially for the development of theelectric battery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_battery). In 1826, Callan returned to Maynooth as the new Professor of Natural Philosophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Philosophy) (now called physics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics), where he also began working with electricity in his basement laboratory at the college.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Callan#cite_note-2)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_di_Casali (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_di_Casali)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Gordon_(Benedictine) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Gordon_(Benedictine)) !!

Mentors,pionieers and fellows: the catholic church science history is in reality less obscur and dark than known and with all progress steps with several reformation and common wealth progress possibilities

The other listen are not to become forgotten,but to many to reknown,read yourself and study if you want "Natural Philosophy"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 21, 2013, 08:45:04 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on October 21, 2013, 09:29:35 AM
Trying to understand how the field works
If the field only reversed using ac to drive the coil it would be easy, but using dc we have bemf that reverses the polarity of the coil so this indicates the field is collapsing in reverse, if it continued in the forward direction there would be no bemf.
If the field ran opposed to the current direction all the time (as I once thought) then there would be no femf, so the field must grow in one direction then reverse and collapse in the other.
The bemf keeps us from tapping a coil like a flywheel, SM figured out how to stop bemf Im not sure but I have an idea how he did it.

Tesla 8) ::) :P answers you with this.http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-336,961-regulator-dynamo-machines?pq=MzM2LDk2MQ==
Look for the word neutralizing. ;D ;D ;D I think you should read my posting on Clemente Figuera Thread-Energytic puro walay Latik. The controller you used only manipulate 1 coil into a Alternating Current action. For God Sake. Tesla 8) Always use 2 Phase Alternating Current , the purpose is to neglect/nullify/neutralize the Lenz Law Effect. Once the 1st Primary induced to the Secondary, the voltage produce on the Secondary is IN PHASE with the incoming Magnetic Field of the 2nd Primary and vice versa which people called Lenzless Fkd Up Generator ;D ;D ;D. I think you get the picture now how did Tesla completely destroyed Lenz Law.

Meow ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 21, 2013, 09:53:07 PM

QuoteIt will be apparent that the respective cores of the field-magnets are subject to the neutralizing or intensifying effects of the current in the shunt through c', and the magnetism of the cores will be partially neutralized or the point of greatest magnetism shifted, so that it will be more or less remote from or approaching to the armature, and hence the aggregate energizing actions of the field magnets on the armature will be correspondingly varied.

Maybe Im missing something here but my understanding is that when a coil is pulsed when the current is off the magnetism in the core is neutralized, this paragraph is explaining that the current is off as it approaches or leaves the armature depending on the position of the brushes a and b and c. this slows drag and sparking of the brushes.
The coil designs may also be redirecting the bemf induced into the coils but I really dont think its eliminating lenz in the cores.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 21, 2013, 11:02:25 PM

I ran across this in the Kapanze thread http://www.magnacoaster.com/magna/html/how_it_works.html
This might just work if the bemf cannot reverse the magnetic field in the core it cant run in the primary back to source.
very interesting

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on October 21, 2013, 11:39:31 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on October 21, 2013, 09:53:07 PM
Maybe Im missing something here but my understanding is that when a coil is pulsed when the current is off the magnetism in the core is neutralized, this paragraph is explaining that the current is off as it approaches or leaves the armature depending on the position of the brushes a and b and c. this slows drag and sparking of the brushes.
The coil designs may also be redirecting the bemf induced into the coils but I really dont think its eliminating lenz in the cores.

I think people on this field of research really don't get or understand Tesla 8) easily. The patent I linked on you Dave is one of the Chapters of Free Energy Device. A Free Energy Device as a whole is like a book which has so many chapters to study, one must read all inside the book to fully digest or understand THE WHOLE BOOK, not only the Chapters. Read and Review again what I answered to you before this post. I already give it to you all you need on the last post, I write above. Everything that others keep as secret is already answered on my last post. It is all there written boldly, read,review, analyze and refer it to the newly existing devices, if you think you can find it on there devices? ::) ;D ;D

If you really wanted to understand Tesla 8), first you must leave and dropped everything you understand from classical physics or biased theories. All you need to do is read, review, analyze what Tesla was referring to on his illustration.

The patent I linked on you above, do you think the wires should always be connected as one? You never tried to think to separate them? Or do you think the coil will work if I separate them in TWO? Just ask simple questions to yourself like I give examples of questions. Have you ever tried to think does TWO Primaries really work, or we should stick to only ONE Primary? How can I achieve the neutralizing effect Tesla talked about using TWO coils as TWO Primaries? What should I do with the Bemf, Should I waste them or I should capture them and recharge my batteries? Its only a matter of questioning itself and a proper choice, or you could try everything that comes to your mind. ;D ;D ;D

Meow. ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 22, 2013, 07:09:52 AM

Com (ap)plication:

left-handed and right handed
centri-fugal and - centri-petal
to /from the center

What : sans scription

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika) (bi/tri/...)Cyclon

(G)ABE/(H)EIL/(H)EAL and (G)LU(E)CK

Neither the wrong political Deutsche Reich "Heil(t) Hitler !"
nor the political spanish "Falange" extremism
(Rutenbuendel ,imperium romanorum, "all the power in one his hands")

motional:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex)

Now read -if you want resolution- one time more the Alan Lebost and Kango
Iida fluid/gas converter movement description and virtualize the images to 4D

http://www.inmotive.com/ (http://www.inmotive.com/)

nature helical wind-ing mechanics
https://www.google.pt/search?q=dna+struktur&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=TWRmUs-1BKnm7Aar94HwAw&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=800&bih=455 (https://www.google.pt/search?q=dna+struktur&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=TWRmUs-1BKnm7Aar94HwAw&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=800&bih=455)

double-helix on a shaft

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 22, 2013, 09:06:27 AM

I appreciate all your help.
I think the bemf from each primary will assist the other in this setup using ferrite rods. Iv shown the primary with and equal number of turns but I think the primary's should be less turns than the secondary's, this is working with the field collapse in both directions.
This should be a cw winging not ccw.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 22, 2013, 09:16:21 AM

A rudimentary example take your finger in air spin to the right building the field then spin to the left and unwind the field. Now do the same in the direction of the primary's and you will see the logic here.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 22, 2013, 10:10:18 AM

How is the physical process in an inverter(Edison-2-Tesla sphere transformator) mono-/bifiliar ?

http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090079393 (http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090079393) Tekla Ozkan
Extracted: My invention generated several times the power it consumes to operate and does so by an all electric means with no moving parts.

#3537 : after Li Yng Tyan transmission concept mainly for household appliances
now

for greater machines propulsion f.e. cars
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1)

Ozkan + Porquer

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on October 22, 2013, 12:05:53 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on October 22, 2013, 10:10:18 AM
How is the physical process in an inverter(Edison-2-Tesla sphere transformator) mono-/bifiliar ?

http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090079393 (http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090079393) Tekla Ozkan
Extracted: My invention generated several times the power it consumes to operate and does so by an all electric means with no moving parts.

#3537 : after Li Yng Tyan transmission concept mainly for household appliances
now

for greater machines propulsion f.e. cars
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1)

Ozkan + Porquer

How is this your invention? I seem to remember Tariel Kapanadze doing this a while back in the 2005 backyard video. In the first place putting together already patented devices is not an invention per say and to boot that is a patent application and not a granted patent.

You could put a supercap in place of the battery and kickstart the process with a battery as well. Which TK did as well.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 22, 2013, 01:29:17 PM

jbignes5,patent- granted/or not
utility-model(l) without examination needing

it does not matter,from whom( no,this are not my applications) and where a good idea exist(e)
I show designs and make my conclusions but never by limiting or negating the different other variation possibilities.
You means that Tariel did it 2005 ! Okay,one function statement more !

I like technical approvements and functionality conclusions !

Fine,let you describe your or his findings with more details,I please you !

But are you also using this -your-knowledge f.e. in your household,in portable gadges,as e-bike energy source or in other kind since 2005 many time went bye !

Important is to know the scientifical background and the classical laws,which gives the professional docents/professors/teachers worldwide the fundament to a "safe haven feeling",this is not new science,but up to today not used in such constructive re-/solution !

99,0% of the delivered/shown worldwide applications are mostly "open source"-objects,with priority dates going back up to 100 years .

The comercial industry will have to change their structure, each "patent award object" has it "open source object" aequivalent so the prices worldwide will go down !

Between -patent award object-price and -open source object-price is a price-relativity/relation from
100/30 ,
20 Units are the production-costs and 10 by the -open source object-price the earnings/salary
and when you calculate right the patent/open source-earning/salary relativity/relation you get this :
80/10

This makes in future the difference between patent-industry and open source/free energy in all kind and matter-industry - global as local
no-low-middle-or high tech related (Lee Iiacoca,Chrysler)
this-does really no matter -the skills : no ranks,no titles(Gore-Tex)

This is valid for our generation and the generations next !

But as we -in common average-also the older people will have their social pensions "hair-cuted" !

Take it easy

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on October 22, 2013, 04:41:15 PM

Yes TK did it before. In fact he relates that he learned it from Tesla.
I'll get you the video reference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zURkxC0quAY

The only thing in my opinion that the Device is: The exact thing you tried to patent. It was sooo simple we would laugh. All the other stuff is for show. Although most of the Show stuff is in fact Tesla methods or devices. But those were not necessary for the simple setup to operate. TK tried to patent the same thing you did and it got him no where.

It's out though and we will see what happens. And yes a scooter version will be available soon. Maybe even Karts and a league to facilitate research in a healthy competitive way. But lets see what happens first with the setup...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TEKTRON on October 22, 2013, 11:38:16 PM

Quote from: jbignes5 on October 22, 2013, 12:05:53 PM

How is this your invention? I seem to remember Tariel Kapanadze doing this a while back in the 2005 backyard video. In the first place putting together already patented devices is not an invention per say and to boot that is a patent application and not a granted patent.

READ IT AGAIN >:(
http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090079393 (http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090079393) Tekla Ozkan
Extracted: My invention generated several times the power it consumes to operate and does so by an all electric means with no moving parts.
HE DID NOT SAY IT WAS HIS INVENTION

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 23, 2013, 03:29:33 AM

jbigness5: yes let us all laugh about "blindness reading" !

I reed several thousands from articles and publications,in several languages, and have some of them in my mind so my cerebral think-tank is well established !
English is neither my mother- nor father language so if you will become mislead by my subject-praedicate-object positioning I please you for pardon !
I substitute also died inventors by their work to develop a better world.
See my delivered informations only as Reference =re-ferre(latin) ~ recycle

What I also wished to inform is the sphere called "industrial generics/clooning"
and no plague/plagiating : I ever work under legal conditions.

If Tariel Kapanadzes work is good he will get fellowers as you !
But the market price from new conventional material components/Kits will make the decision about buy/acceptance : not Names !

TEKTRON :thanks a lot !

The next step is optimizing inverter quality by
weight quantity diminuation (material=compressed energy):

Zoelde HSWR (WR=Inverter)
http://www.thermogen.ws24.cc/ (http://www.thermogen.ws24.cc/) bilingual description

Eddie Sines,Potomac Energy
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=eddie+sines&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=eddie+sines&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC)
this meaning
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20040817&CC=US&NR=6777835B1&KC=B1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20040817&CC=US&NR=6777835B1&KC=B1)

from the SHELL springborad award competition:
http://www.shellspringboard.com/alumni/2010/the-planar-transformer (http://www.shellspringboard.com/alumni/2010/the-planar-transformer)

-80% material needs : less costs

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
amplifying +tuning : amplifier + tuner = receiver technology + emissor/emitter/sender =
https://web.archive.org/web/20070626133408/http://theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/forsale/plans/ambient/ambient.htm (https://web.archive.org/web/20070626133408/http://theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/forsale/plans/ambient/ambient.htm)
(all his,R.I.P. Don Adsiitt, menu has a good taste)

the de-mystified "free energy"-converter ( em-radio/radiation RF station )

developed by Henry(+Morse-Alphabet),Bell,Marconi,Tesla,Moray and many others
transmitting=telemitting f.e. TV and interactive TV-conference =
reversible antenna/rectenna communication/conversion

as tele-movel/handy/smartphone et so on
the same technique: dual use

em-waves to solid antenna( capacitor/battery/humans(Neurophone)
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931118&CC=DE&NR=4215818A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931118&CC=DE&NR=4215818A1&KC=A1)
or reversal antenna emitting/vibrating/oszilating/sending em-waves
f.e.: H.A.A.R.P. (under Pythagoras harp harmonial law ?) an em-lense/focus
with mutlifunctions ,
un-/friendly ? U.N.O. convention

Each FE-machine is influencing the ambient: ever and everywhere !

In Astro-/Quantum Physics the common language in the 19.to 20.th century has been german: aetherische Oele = Aether

Aether has been meaned as Funken(spark)-Aether :
ambiental radio-magnetic spectrum included earth(cha/o) seismic movements and
cosmic(Korpuskeln) rays
The cause of misunderstanding cames often also from caotic translation with unwished rotatory direction changes.
linear-rotatory-translatory definition from sectorial/vectorial forces

an image is ever better than 1000 words

but words/numbers are needing to explain the fillings of the formula to
coordinate the XYZ-sphere to get the 3D-image to let it move :
digital XYZ-Pixels to line to squared/round object body formation
to use the CNC-C.A.D.coordinates for the C.I.M/C.A.M-industrial/home 3D-Printer
production

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 23, 2013, 04:19:08 PM

I didnt have a ferrite rod so I wound the bifilar coil on pvc, got some good light for an air core.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 23, 2013, 07:39:56 PM

There's a reason this is called the induction heating circuit ;D ya think lol

I was wondering and Im sure its been tried, how this circuit would be at breaking water into hho. This thing is switching some serious magnetic fields.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 23, 2013, 09:00:29 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on October 23, 2013, 07:39:56 PM
There's a reason this is called the induction heating circuit ;D ya think lol

I was wondering and Im sure its been tried, how this circuit would be at breaking water into hho. This thing is switching some serious magnetic fields.

Hey Dave

There was a thread here a couple years ago on how to produce 'copious' amounts of hho pulsing a coil around the water solution container, hich was a test tube. He claimed that the solution was water and saturated with sodium hydroxide, which is a metal. The guy tried to encourage builders with spoon fed info and then he just went away. So it was an HHO setup without any circuitry or electrodes touching the solution. Well, the sodium hydroxide was the electrode, and the currents were generated by the magnetic field of the coil.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on October 23, 2013, 10:33:23 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 04, 2013, 02:28:07 AM
Ya, i'm a filipino but the father and mother of my Grand father are spanish. :)

and i think that is the reason why i'm an inventor cause my grand father is an inventor.
it seems that there is a blood of inventive mind i got from my grand grand parents. :)

and i'm very proud to be a filipino. :)

???

Overunity is really how nature works and that's the perfect way to let the life of the nature last long. ;)

And that is the design of GOD. ;)

So we are blood brothers Spanish din grand grand fathers namin
Pasasalamat lang po koyang
Thanks to peter and Gyula for ur circuit
toto alas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 24, 2013, 09:01:18 AM

We are all blood brothers, we all came from Adam

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on October 24, 2013, 09:39:36 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on October 24, 2013, 09:01:18 AM
We are all blood brothers, we all came from Adam
[/quote

Amen to that Brothers

Ninong Otits
Prepare ur xmas gift aguinaldo

#344 2O13 pmbo 1st place winners yt
Toto Alas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 24, 2013, 09:55:56 AM

David45, I recuse !

This version related:

to Adam(Asam/o) you forgot to name Eva(Eba)Ova,
and common we are not really blood brother ,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type)

we are genetic brothers and sisters :gentil :gens(VFolk) .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA)

Do never use the false blood group by blood infusion !

The reborn(renascenca) are we - each individual.
trans-porting the empirical/gen(e)tic "material/information" from our ancients to the future next
included anima animalis bestia (Aristoteles) basic instinct

O+O to eternity.O² or 8

we are all from the same cosmos
Ameno(he,el) et Amena(she,elle)

our lingua,tongue spoken,spelled ?
https://www.google.pt/search?q=phonetic+spelling&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=kzlpUvjUI4TxhQern4HQBg&ved=0CEwQsAQ&biw=800&bih=455 (https://www.google.pt/search?q=phonetic+spelling&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=kzlpUvjUI4TxhQern4HQBg&ved=0CEwQsAQ&biw=800&bih=455)

palaver(polynesian): tribe-"elders"discussion

The beginning from the phonetical journey
Polynesia asam-o-a
Godswanaland
TRAUMZEIT, DREAMTIME
Paradies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamtime (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamtime)
partial by Trance,Hyp(g)nosis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosis)

And about Eba/Eva ( first Eva/Eve or Asam/Adam? /second ?) Not important !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherah)
GODMOTHER MAR-IA Mar(e)=Sea
'Lady Athirat of the Sea'

from Ur to Ugarit :Mesopotamien homestaed Abrahams/Avram
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur)

https://www.google.pt/search?q=ur&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=92xpUunJCYew7AawnYHoCw&ved=0CGsQsAQ&biw=800&bih=455 (https://www.google.pt/search?q=ur&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=92xpUunJCYew7AawnYHoCw&ved=0CGsQsAQ&biw=800&bih=455)

The same cult like to find by the Aztecs/Inka culture : Menschenopfer
the blood streaming to a calice
http://www.religionsunterricht-pfalz.de/bibliothek/bilder/menschenopfer_ur.jpg (http://www.religionsunterricht-pfalz.de/bibliothek/bilder/menschenopfer_ur.jpg)

Pfalz-Palatina-Palaestina: JERUSALEM=HEAVEN on earth
http://www.kreuzer-siegfried.de/texte-zum-at/jerusalem.pdf (http://www.kreuzer-siegfried.de/texte-zum-at/jerusalem.pdf)

King Salam Vorbild/Idol for Cristi
Jeru sallam
Jeru shalom

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on October 25, 2013, 05:20:45 AM

Dave, tune the output.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 25, 2013, 08:56:57 AM

Yea I could probably tune but it heats a core ferrite or iron, this causes amp draw so not the right combination.
I have a few more idea's, but have been busy with work.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 27, 2013, 05:11:14 PM

catching bemf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on October 27, 2013, 08:31:02 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on October 27, 2013, 05:11:14 PM
catching bemf

try it with e core and a gap in between 2 primaries in the middle and pick up coils on both ends

cheers

totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 28, 2013, 04:05:21 AM

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theremin (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theremin) (termal=motion-2-acoustic)
Extracting:
Beim Theremin beeinflusst die elektrische Kapazität (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elektrische_Kapazit%C3%A4t) des menschlichen Körpers ein elektromagnetisches Feld.

Eine besondere Rolle in der Musikgeschichte nahm das Theremin durch den InstrumentenbauerRobert Moog (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Moog) ein. Dieser baute in seiner Jugend Theremins und nutzte die dort gewonnenen Erfahrungen zur Entwicklung der ersten Synthesizer (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthesizer)

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theremin (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theremin)
also extracting:
Die sich ändernde Schwingung des Feldes wird verstärkt
oszilations em-field amplified
revolutions
turnings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOHu9FjnWIc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOHu9FjnWIc)

What and how would Mr.Robert Moog or Mr. Lew Termen explain about Mr.Steven Marks instrument creation concept and function ?

What will be tuned and modulated? By and to which frequency ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgbDoakV40M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgbDoakV40M)
and look also the right-sided offered audio-videos

What is this ? Really ?
http://www.mexistim.com/ (http://www.mexistim.com/)

http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/10/21/1848226/biological-clock-discovered-that-measures-ages-of-most-human-tissues (http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/10/21/1848226/biological-clock-discovered-that-measures-ages-of-most-human-tissues)

analog watch/instrumental(Unruh) parts and digital watch concept(cristal)
(TIMEX TM) tik/tak-tik/tak-tik/tak-.... move your toes !

Jungbrunnen(Breughel d.A./d.J. ?)
Rejuvenator(-2-infancia) Anti-/ weapon/wish Pro-Ageing

Der(die,das ?) Gral : Kelch or hlg.Schrift ? Josef asking ?

TI Timejourney Instrument
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIxoToyqYjw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIxoToyqYjw)
for
body - mind - and soul

http://www.glasspiel.it/ (http://www.glasspiel.it/) wonder

f.e. : http://www.glasspiel.it/voices-from-the-lake-drop3-generative-music-video/ (http://www.glasspiel.it/voices-from-the-lake-drop3-generative-music-video/) speaking(to audio)/moving(to video/to emotio) = body cells/elements frequencies

faszination
keep feeling
Reversion
Reveillon

1974 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbGVIdA3dx0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbGVIdA3dx0)
forward-backward
Music/Clothes/Arquitecture/Speak-Technique ....

science fiction by facts

Are we (me-myself + I )tuned -thereminated- enough to reach connection with the
Energy: NRG :NRGon : field ?!
By instruments or by our body rectenna
es-se es-say
body( language ) talk
It's yust an illusion Imagination

S. Freud + Paretto : Ich - UeberIch - ES - UeberIch -Ich
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minkowski-Diagramm (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minkowski-Diagramm)
(http://homepage.univie.ac.at/franz.embacher/SRT/Geometrie2.gif (http://homepage.univie.ac.at/franz.embacher/SRT/Geometrie2.gif))
Awas Ais Awill be
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/World_line.svg/481px-World_line.svg.png (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/World_line.svg/481px-World_line.svg.png))
ct-line~Ka observation

Lichtkegel~Lightkalice Ka: der Weg~Meta~the Way
https://www.google.pt/search?q=minkowski+lichtkegel&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=yFtuUrz6B8vQ7Ab-3IGYDQ&ved=0CDkQsAQ&biw=800&bih=455 (https://www.google.pt/search?q=minkowski+lichtkegel&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=yFtuUrz6B8vQ7Ab-3IGYDQ&ved=0CDkQsAQ&biw=800&bih=455)

Keppler: hohle Welt Nirvana
Potemkinsche Fassade

energy amplification :amplus :high -up/down -deep

And you know we shall live our life proportional and in Nonplusultra matter as mandated by Emmanuel Kant and common known as 11.kategorie following the
1-10.kategories but it is really hard to fullfill all that obligations especially written and determinated in a for me unusual ct-line language like
http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Dekalogo (http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Dekalogo)
and this in a more then thousand years old explication of natural/empirical -harmony-laws definition
better would be f.e. to term this as
TFT-logo
t.it f.or t.at ( and not misleading this by T.iten f.uer T.aten )
also in modern version and words common known by the geral Terminus

CONSTITUTION,the DEKALOG instructed !

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Boy: Kuscheln ? Immer/Always !
Ergibt Nestwaerme ! ;) Econowinterizing

Seule-ment,c'est soi ? Oui,"ca" est vrai e je nai pas regrete !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 29, 2013, 11:02:06 PM

day Hi good every ;D

i am happy to all for the progress i am seeing right now :) ;)

Everyone, you have to eliminate the spark gap that is obsolete thing and is not good in hearing.

To eliminate it, you have to catch it in its own strength and divert and convert it to more strengthen the field.

The material to use?

Answer this: what is the thing that can accept and absorb any oscillation and can directly convert it into what you want? ???

The big copper tube that TK is using in his transformer is where the high volts is being dissipated and helps strengthen the field and considered as the third field in the transformer :)

did you get it class? ;D

signing on a little and now off again ;D

PS: @totoalas
hoy! ako bigyan mo aguinaldo wala ako pira, wala na gatas anak ko! >:( ;D ;)

bye otit. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 29, 2013, 11:33:26 PM

Quote from: totoalas on October 27, 2013, 08:31:02 PM
try it with e core and a gap in between 2 primaries in the middle and pick up coils on both ends

cheers

totoalas

Hey Toto ;D

Im a bit flustered. But if what you say here is so, then 2 primaries in the middle(post of the Ecore), are they layered, or are they side by side? Also, is each primary a series bifi in itself? One more thing. ;D Are the 2 primaries wound in the same orientation start to finish of each primary, or mirror image side by side?

Thanks

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on October 30, 2013, 05:14:14 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 29, 2013, 11:33:26 PM
Hey Toto ;D

Im a bit flustered. But if what you say here is so, then 2 primaries in the middle(post of the Ecore), are they layered, YES
or are they side by side? NO
Also, is each primary a series bifi in itself? IMAGINE BOTTOM E TOP CW CENTER LAYERED BI FI CW CCW BOTTOM CCW CENTER CW SERIES WITH BOTTOM CCW CENTER CCW TO TOP CW
One more thing. ;D Are the 2 primaries wound in the same orientation start to finish of each primary, or mirror image side by side? ANSWER ABOVE BACK TRACK TO GYULAS CKT IN THIS THREAD TNX

Thanks

Mags

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on October 30, 2013, 05:27:53 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 29, 2013, 11:02:06 PM
day Hi good every ;D

i am happy to all for the progress i am seeing right now :) ;)

Everyone, you have to eliminate the spark gap that is obsolete thing and is not good in hearing.

To eliminate it, you have to catch it in its own strength and divert and convert it to more strengthen the field.

The material to use?

Answer this: what is the thing that can accept and absorb any oscillation and can directly convert it into what you want? ???

The big copper tube that TK is using in his transformer is where the high volts is being dissipated and helps strengthen the field and considered as the third field in the transformer :) BIIIIIIIIG FERRITE CORE CAN DOOOO THIS ALSO AS SHOOOOOOWN IN MY SET UP PLACING THE HV TO THE COOOORE ITSELF

did you get it class? ;D

signing on a little and now off again ;D

PS: @totoalas
hoy! ako bigyan mo aguinaldo wala ako pira, wala na gatas anak ko! >:( ;D ;) MASS PRODUCE NATIN YAN 160000 + 30000 OFWS LANG CASH READY MGA YAN DITO SA HK T MACAU DADAIGIN MO P SI NAPOLES HEHEHEH

bye otit. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 30, 2013, 08:41:25 PM

everyday hi :-*

just want to add that third field can also be called as longitudinal wave ;) ??? :o

And this is economy ;D : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x--8rAlaQKw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x--8rAlaQKw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeSyHgO5fmQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeSyHgO5fmQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1umwvQ_hMHQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1umwvQ_hMHQ)

offf otit ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 01, 2013, 12:19:18 AM

Hey Tito n Toto. Totito brothers. ;)

Ok, lets say I have my Ecore plastic bobbin, and I wind 1 layer bifi(2 wires wound together), then I end up with 4 leads for that layer.

Then I wind a second layer bifi which leaves me with 4 more leads. We now have 8 leads, 2 separate primary windings, each consuming 1 layer of the bobbin.. The 1 layer each is just for simplicity of understanding, naturally we can have as many layers as we can fit, with room for secondaries on the outer legs of the core.

So I would imagine that we would want each bifilar primary to have equal values of capacitance, resistance, neutralized inductance, so do we premeasure the length of each bifi primary wires before winding, or would the second layer just be wound with the same number of turns for a full layer. Why I ask is if we do just wind say 50 turns for the first layer bifi primary, then wind 50 turns bifi for the second primary, second layer, the outer primary will have more capacitance and more resistance, etc. because more wire was needed to go a further distance because the winding circumference was larger for the second layer. Or do we want an off balance between the 2 primaries? Or doesnt matter?

Im not worried about the connections for now, just the correct orientation of the windings on the core bobbin.

Thanks

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 01, 2013, 05:55:53 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 01, 2013, 12:19:18 AM
Hey Tito n Toto. Totito brothers. ;)

Ok, lets say I have my Ecore plastic bobbin, and I wind 1 layer bifi(2 wires wound together), then I end up with 4 leads for that layer.

Then I wind a second layer bifi which leaves me with 4 more leads. We now have 8 leads, 2 separate primary windings, each consuming 1 layer of the bobbin.. The 1 layer each is just for simplicity of understanding, naturally we can have as many layers as we can fit, with room for secondaries on the outer legs of the core.

So I would imagine that we would want each bifilar primary to have equal values of capacitance, resistance, neutralized inductance, so do we premeasure the length of each bifi primary wires before winding, or would the second layer just be wound with the same number of turns for a full layer. Why I ask is if we do just wind say 50 turns for the first layer bifi primary, then wind 50 turns bifi for the second primary, second layer, the outer primary will have more capacitance and more resistance, etc. because more wire was needed to go a further distance because the winding circumference was larger for the second layer. Or do we want an off balance between the 2 primaries? Or doesnt matter?

Im not worried about the connections for now, just the correct orientation of the windings on the core bobbin.

Thanks
The windings count doesn't matter i just estimate that the windings will fit one half space between legs to fit the secondary on the middle single as many turns upper core for my r inches by 4 inches core max 40 watts of lighting ferries core easy to play with so middle core bifi 4 ends left and right single wind 2 ends each other half core bifi center only
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 01, 2013, 10:17:44 PM

Hey Toto

Thanks. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 02, 2013, 12:55:48 AM

Pulled a transformer from a power supply, and it was easy to disassemble. It is an Ecore with the E being most of it and just a top bar. When I pulled of the yellow tape, the top bar came off easily as they had a thin strip of plastic as a gap spacer, so it came off with little force.

It had several windings with most being multi strand (7). So Im using one of those as the bifi, where Ill separate the 7 strands into 2 groups of 3 and 1 lone strand that I wont connect yet. Will try some things with it later. Having 3 strands for each plate of the bifi capacitance will increase the capacitance and will be equal to 2 larger bifi wires with greater capacitance. ;)

I wrapped the bifi with teflon tape and the outer core bars so the sharp edges dont cut into the secondaries, which I havnt wound yet.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on November 02, 2013, 09:49:12 AM

Tito, what kind of transformer is your device made up of? Is it made of
1. Straight transformer, or an EI transformer?
2. Ferrite core, iron core, or air core?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 02, 2013, 10:55:02 AM

ENERGY AMPLIFIKATION = ENERGY MODULATION

Tito,what "kind" of transformer is your device ?

An Auto-Transformer ? Seriell-/Parallel-Couple with feedback ?

Avramenko-loop ?

Sincerely
CdL

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on November 04, 2013, 01:51:47 AM

I'll replicate this in due time. I'm still working with the switching methods. I actually dismantled my first switch. And time, oh.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 10:00:50 AM

Iv been playing with this circuit a little, its a very interesting and simple but the sims have a hard time with it, a couple of people have got it to run in a sim but showing only conventional view + to - it would be very interesting to see it in electron flow - to +
What would you say is triggering the mosfet gate, I believe D1 and D2 are the trigger but is it bemf that triggers the gates or femf.
It will pulse two primary's from the center out and from the outside in but will not oscillate if one is reversed, its interesting if you use cw and ccw coils you are pulsing the primary's but the polarity does not change only the bemf collapsing into the coil changes the core direction, If all bemf were stopped from interring the primary's this would operate like a flywheel,,,,,,, you know ring magnets will only fit one inside the other if their polarity's are nsnsns.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 04, 2013, 10:09:14 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
Iv been playing with this circuit a little, its a very interesting and simple but the sims have a hard time with it, a couple of people have got it to run in a sim but showing only conventional view + to - it would be very interesting to see it in electron flow - to +
What would you say is triggering the mosfet gate, I believe D1 and D2 are the trigger but is it bemf that triggers the gates or femf.
It will pulse two primary's from the center out and from the outside in but will not oscillate if one is reversed, its interesting if you use cw and ccw coils you are pulsing the primary's but the polarity does not change only the bemf collapsing into the coil changes the core direction, If all bemf were stopped from interring the primary's this would operate like a flywheel,,,,,,, you know ring magnets will only fit one inside the other if their polarity's are nsnsns.

if you pulse both primaries at the same time as ive done you can see the kick kick bak back result cheers

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on November 04, 2013, 10:20:05 AM

You circuit is correct. Also the winding direction is correct. But the only wrong here is forcing one head of core. Think of this picture I have attach and used it with your circuit.

Quote from: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
Iv been playing with this circuit a little, its a very interesting and simple but the sims have a hard time with it, a couple of people have got it to run in a sim but showing only conventional view + to - it would be very interesting to see it in electron flow - to +
What would you say is triggering the mosfet gate, I believe D1 and D2 are the trigger but is it bemf that triggers the gates or femf.
It will pulse two primary's from the center out and from the outside in but will not oscillate if one is reversed, its interesting if you use cw and ccw coils you are pulsing the primary's but the polarity does not change only the bemf collapsing into the coil changes the core direction, If all bemf were stopped from interring the primary's this would operate like a flywheel,,,,,,, you know ring magnets will only fit one inside the other if their polarity's are nsnsns.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 10:28:44 AM

I read an article, I posted a link to it here that said magnecoster used pm on his cores to keep bemf from entering the primary and it makes sense bemf changes the core polarity if the core polarity could not be changed because of the pm then the bemf could not enter the primary or at least would rather inter a coil that whose core polarity could be changed, I think this could be accomplished using a coil setup like ring magnets a pm on the center core, a layer of iron wire wrapped around the primary's then a copper winding to catch the bemf , the center core's polarity could not be changed but the core polarity of the iron wire could so all bemf would enter the outer coil.
Sounds like a flywheel could be created
Iv also been pondering the idea of spark gaps being incorporated into the zvs, could it be done?
I hope someone with electronic experience has some insights, would appreciate feed back.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 10:31:37 AM

Quote from: totoalas on November 04, 2013, 10:09:14 AM
if you pulse both primaries at the same time as ive done you can see the kick kick bak back result cheers

Hey Toto I hadn't thought of that sounds interesting :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 10:34:45 AM

Quote from: stupify12 on November 04, 2013, 10:20:05 AM
You circuit is correct. Also the winding direction is correct. But the only wrong here is forcing one head of core. Think of this picture I have attach and used it with your circuit.

Hey Stupify isnt this the same coil layout used in Tesla's egg of columbus experiment?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on November 04, 2013, 10:40:02 AM

Let me remind you. Tesla Primary is always 2 wound coils. Like the egg of Columbus Machine. Bifilar Pancake Coils. The one I attached is for AC to Dc Conversion with no Commutator being used on Tesla's time. I have reversed the Picture instead of AC to DC i made it DC to AC LOL. ;D ;D ;D. Which the royer oscillator is perfect for this Transformer set up. If TotoALas can post a schematic of Pulsing both the Primary Together then disregard my post. The post is for Flip Flop Royer Oscillator your problems of the Bemf can be solved by this 2 Branch of Core, better used 2 Flyback Cores.

Meow ;D ;D

Quote from: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 10:34:45 AM
Hey Stupify isnt this the same coil layout used in Tesla's egg of columbus experiment?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 04, 2013, 10:58:38 AM

Quote from: stupify12 on November 04, 2013, 10:40:02 AM
Let me remind you. Tesla Primary is always 2 wound coils. Like the egg of Columbus Machine. Bifilar Pancake Coils. The one I attached is for AC to Dc Conversion with no Commutator being used on Tesla's time. I have reversed the Picture instead of AC to DC i made it DC to AC LOL. ;D ;D ;D . Which the royer oscillator is perfect for this Transformer set up. If TotoALas can post a schematic of Pulsing both the Primary Together then disregard my post. The post is for Flip Flop Royer Oscillator your problems of the Bemf can be solved by this 2 Branch of Core, better used 2 Flyback Cores.

Meow ;D ;D

AWw Aww oww 8)
Ckt in the IAEC forum and the video as well .... check also previous thread drawn by Gyula on otits design
the picture is almost near balbosa only difference his using ac on primary with shoted secondary
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 11:11:09 AM

Is this the layout you have in mind?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on November 04, 2013, 11:19:55 AM

Yah got it right. What happens here is the two flyback core have two different magnetic orientation. Lets say if Primary F = Top- South and Bottom- North, the other Primary E = Top- North and Bottom- South. The windings of both Primary should started with CW. The same goes for the Secondary it should also start with CW. When I say start with CW keep in mind that I look at the End of Each Coil as CCW. Look closely the end of Each coil and analyze they look like CCW on me, The starting is CW and the ending is CCW.

So we have the ending of Primary F CCW connected to the starting Primary E CW. What do you call this set up? The secondary is like a ONE Coil wind on both TWO flyback Cores. 8)

Meow ;D ;D

Quote from: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 11:11:09 AM
Is this the layout you have in mind?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 11:28:07 AM

Matching cores is the problem, I got mine from and older tv but its hard to find cores that match and this circuit heats up iron rings fast.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 11:32:09 AM

Ferrite powder is more common than I would have thought and different compounds.
http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/480371?lang=en&region=US
although a little expensive

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on November 04, 2013, 11:39:26 AM

I can suggest on that part ;D I get my flyback core on local Tv Repair Technicians. I also find some on Junk Shops. I don't mind the core composition, I just look for two Flyback core with the same size and shape. I only think of the same frequency feed and the same turns of coils on each primary. Tesla mention it that the core is made of soft metal or composed of laminated thin strips of metal but doesn't specified that both cores are the same on composition or how it looks.

Meow ;D ;D

Quote from: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 11:32:09 AM
Ferrite powder is more common than I would have thought and different compounds.
http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/480371?lang=en&region=US
although a little expensive

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 11:49:17 AM

I wonder wonder who
I'll see if I can find some matching cores
Would this hit two primary's at the same time like Toto suggested?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on November 04, 2013, 11:58:25 AM

That is very correct. You got it right. ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 11:49:17 AM
I wonder wonder who
I'll see if I can find some matching cores
Would this hit two primary's at the same time like Toto suggested?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 04, 2013, 12:07:28 PM

It's a flipflop sorta, it does flipflop though

when one side opens, it drains any voltage on the base/gate of the other. The won't ever be on together except the very first time, but fortunatly resistors are imperfect so always one will turn on before the other. Simulators wno't like it because of that, if you add + and - 5% (even 0.1%... 2 ohms... probably even less) to the resistors to the gates it should improve the simulator.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 12:27:04 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on November 04, 2013, 12:07:28 PM
It's a flipflop sorta, it does flipflop though

when one side opens, it drains any voltage on the base/gate of the other. The won't ever be on together except the very first time, but fortunatly resistors are imperfect so always one will turn on before the other. Simulators wno't like it because of that, if you add + and - 5% (even 0.1%... 2 ohms... probably even less) to the resistors to the gates it should improve the simulator.

Thx
what would you say stops the fet from conducting, what turns it off.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 04, 2013, 12:34:17 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 12:27:04 PM
Thx
what would you say stops the fet from conducting, what turns it off.

uhmm... the other one being on... (oh so what turns this one off?)

well... it is a function of the separate inductor and the low resistor from power to the gate...

got distracted was making an LT Spice model... I'm not really sure; I think that the extra inductor can be wound on the secondary as a detector instead of a time constant....

OH got it.

The source is floating, so as it builds up voltage against the coil, the gate will be less high relatively and it will fall off...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 12:45:49 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on November 04, 2013, 12:34:17 PM
uhmm... the other one being on... (oh so what turns this one off?)

well... it is a function of the separate inductor and the low resistor from power to the gate...

got distracted was making an LT Spice model... I'm not really sure; I think that the extra inductor can be wound on the secondary as a detector instead of a time constant....

OH got it.

The source is floating, so as it builds up voltage against the coil, the gate will be less high relatively and it will fall off...

Sounds reasonable thanks, if you get it working in a sim I would really like to see it.
The simulator at falstad gives the option to view in conventional or electron flow not sure about the others.
Somehow the coils effect the circuit, I couldnt get it to pulse two toroids unless they were bucking.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 04, 2013, 01:30:04 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 12:45:49 PM
Sounds reasonable thanks, if you get it working in a sim I would really like to see it.
The simulator at falstad gives the option to view in conventional or electron flow not sure about the others.
Somehow the coils effect the circuit, I couldnt get it to pulse two toroids unless they were bucking.

it oscillates....; I omitted some of the diodes.. I was referencing http://wiki.4hv.org/index.php/File:Mazzilli_flyback_driver.png (http://wiki.4hv.org/index.php/File:Mazzilli_flyback_driver.png)

This link is the falstad simlulation (http://www.falstad.com/circuit/#%24+1+4.9999999999999996E-6+0.12316236423470497+85+12.0+50%0Ar+144+112+224+112+0+472.0%0Ar+176+208+240+208+0+468.0%0Ag+224+336+224+384+0%0Ar+384+240+384+304+0+10000.0%0Af+432+112+480+112+0+3.5%0Af+432+256+480+256+0+3.5%0Al+576+96+576+176+0+1.4999999999999999E-5+-0.10523135035586259%0Al+576+208+576+272+0+1.4999999999999999E-5+-0.03034280792365235%0Al+320+48+384+48+0+3.9999999999999996E-5+0.07488854243221021%0Aw+384+48+512+48+0%0Ac+544+96+544+144+0+6.7E-10+1.4311338696991793%0Aw+544+144+544+272+0%0Aw+576+272+544+272+0%0Aw+576+208+576+176+0%0Aw+576+192+512+192+0%0Aw+512+48+512+192+0%0Aw+320+48+144+48+0%0Aw+144+48+144+112+0%0Aw+144+112+144+208+0%0Aw+176+208+144+208+0%0Aw+288+336+224+336+0%0Aw+432+208+432+256+0%0Aw+384+208+384+240+0%0Aw+480+240+544+240+0%0Aw+480+128+480+176+0%0Aw+480+272+496+272+0%0Aw+496+272+496+176+0%0Aw+496+176+480+176+0%0Aw+80+176+144+176+0%0Aw+144+176+144+208+0%0Aw+576+96+544+96+0%0Aw+576+208+576+192+0%0Aw+544+240+544+272+0%0Aw+352+112+432+112+0%0Ar+352+160+352+112+0+10000.0%0Aw+224+112+352+112+0%0Aw+288+336+288+304+0%0Aw+384+304+352+304+0%0Aw+352+304+288+304+0%0Aw+240+208+384+208+0%0Aw+432+208+384+208+0%0Aw+352+160+352+304+0%0Aw+352+160+416+160+0%0Aw+416+160+416+176+0%0Aw+416+176+480+176+0%0AR+80+176+80+144+0+0+40.0+5.0+0.0+0.0+0.5%0Aw+432+208+528+208+0%0Aw+528+208+528+96+0%0Aw+544+96+528+96+0%0Aw+480+96+528+96+0%0Aw+432+112+432+80+0%0Aw+432+80+608+80+0%0Aw+608+80+608+304+0%0Aw+576+272+576+304+0%0Aw+608+304+576+304+0%0A) Should turn down the currrent speed.

Updated link with diodes and a switch. (http://www.falstad.com/circuit/#%24+1+1.0E-9+7.619785657297057+53+12.0+50%0Ar+128+128+208+128+0+472.0%0Ar+160+224+224+224+0+468.0%0Ag+208+352+208+400+0%0Ar+368+256+368+320+0+10000.0%0Af+416+128+464+128+0+3.5%0Af+416+272+464+272+0+3.5%0Al+560+112+560+192+0+1.4999999999999999E-5+-0.01146698212697815%0Al+560+224+560+288+0+1.4999999999999999E-5+-0.012112387769070827%0Al+304+64+368+64+0+3.9999999999999996E-5+-6.454056420926784E-4%0Aw+368+64+496+64+0%0Ac+528+112+528+160+0+6.7E-10+2.804918026478114%0Aw+528+160+528+288+0%0Aw+560+288+528+288+0%0Aw+560+224+560+192+0%0Aw+560+208+496+208+0%0Aw+496+64+496+208+0%0Aw+304+64+128+64+0%0Aw+128+64+128+128+0%0Aw+128+128+128+224+0%0Aw+160+224+128+224+0%0Aw+272+352+208+352+0%0Aw+416+224+416+272+0%0Aw+368+224+368+256+0%0Aw+464+256+528+256+0%0Aw+464+144+464+192+0%0Aw+464+288+480+288+0%0Aw+480+288+480+192+0%0Aw+480+192+464+192+0%0Aw+128+192+128+224+0%0Aw+560+112+528+112+0%0Aw+560+224+560+208+0%0Aw+528+256+528+288+0%0Aw+336+128+416+128+0%0Ar+336+176+336+128+0+10000.0%0Aw+208+128+336+128+0%0Aw+272+352+272+320+0%0Aw+368+320+336+320+0%0Aw+336+320+272+320+0%0Aw+224+224+368+224+0%0Aw+416+224+368+224+0%0Aw+336+176+336+320+0%0Aw+336+176+400+176+0%0Aw+400+176+400+192+0%0Aw+400+192+464+192+0%0AR+64+192+64+160+0+0+40.0+5.0+0.0+0.0+0.5%0Aw+416+224+512+224+0%0Aw+528+112+512+112+0%0Aw+464+112+512+112+0%0Aw+416+128+416+96+0%0Aw+592+96+592+320+0%0Aw+560+288+560+320+0%0Aw+592+320+560+320+0%0As+64+192+128+192+0+1+false%0Ad+528+96+592+96+1+0.805904783%0Aw+416+96+528+96+0%0Ad+512+192+512+144+1+0.805904783%0Aw+512+144+512+112+0%0Aw+512+224+512+192+0%0A)
I added a switch at the power supply, to get it to work you have to start the sim, then open and then close the switch.... there's no option to start at 0 voltage, so everything ends up energized... Oh good the exported state is with the switch open, so close the switch and should be good :)

Had to set the time step to 1ns also...

I was wrong about the floating source; it's the LC time constant of the coils and capacitor across them that determines frequency.

Added capacitor that drains VERY slowly; mthough only microseconds have gone by :) (http://www.falstad.com/circuit/#%24+1+1.0E-9+13.097415321081861+52+12.0+50%0Ar+128+128+208+128+0+472.0%0Ar+160+224+224+224+0+468.0%0Ag+208+352+208+400+0%0Ar+368+256+368+320+0+10000.0%0Af+416+128+464+128+0+3.5%0Af+416+272+464+272+0+3.5%0Al+560+112+560+192+0+2.4999999999999998E-5+-0.443746651153914%0Al+560+224+560+288+0+2.4999999999999998E-5+-0.4338402710294156%0Al+304+64+368+64+0+3.9999999999999996E-5+0.009906380124498263%0Aw+368+64+496+64+0%0Ac+528+112+528+160+0+1.287E-8+1.8625418154817477%0Aw+528+160+528+288+0%0Aw+560+288+528+288+0%0Aw+560+224+560+192+0%0Aw+560+208+496+208+0%0Aw+496+64+496+208+0%0Aw+304+64+128+64+0%0Aw+128+64+128+128+0%0Aw+128+128+128+224+0%0Aw+160+224+128+224+0%0Aw+272+352+208+352+0%0Aw+416+224+416+272+0%0Aw+368+224+368+256+0%0Aw+464+256+528+256+0%0Aw+464+144+464+192+0%0Aw+464+288+480+288+0%0Aw+480+288+480+192+0%0Aw+480+192+464+192+0%0Aw+128+192+128+224+0%0Aw+560+112+528+112+0%0Aw+560+224+560+208+0%0Aw+528+256+528+288+0%0Aw+336+128+416+128+0%0Ar+336+176+336+128+0+10000.0%0Aw+208+128+336+128+0%0Aw+272+352+272+320+0%0Aw+368+320+336+320+0%0Aw+336+320+272+320+0%0Aw+224+224+368+224+0%0Aw+416+224+368+224+0%0Aw+336+176+336+320+0%0Aw+336+176+400+176+0%0Aw+400+176+400+192+0%0Aw+400+192+464+192+0%0AR+64+192+64+160+0+0+40.0+5.0+0.0+0.0+0.5%0Aw+416+224+512+224+0%0Aw+528+112+512+112+0%0Aw+464+112+512+112+0%0Aw+416+128+416+96+0%0Aw+592+96+592+320+0%0Aw+560+288+560+320+0%0Aw+592+320+560+320+0%0As+64+192+128+192+0+1+false%0Ad+528+96+592+96+1+0.805904783%0Aw+416+96+528+96+0%0Ad+512+192+512+144+1+0.805904783%0Aw+512+144+512+112+0%0Aw+512+224+512+192+0%0Ac+128+224+128+304+0+9.999999999999999E-6+9.305781478268717%0Aw+128+304+128+352+0%0Aw+208+352+128+352+0%0A) Increased capacitance and inductance of drive coils

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 02:21:38 PM

I think you nailed it thanks I know that is alot of work I played with it in the past but could not get it to work :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 02:54:45 PM

QuoteMake yourself a test set up. Use Two large low voltage Capacitors. Make sure one is about 1/2 the capacity of the other. Charge the smaller one fully and discharge it into the larger one. Take measurements ON BOTH before and after discharging them together to see how much power is transferred.
Now do the same with a small bulb in series as you discharge the small cap into the larger one. Measure the power levels in both caps. You will have had some light produced and some heat, but the WHOLE charge is transferred to the other capacitor!! !!!!
Reciprocating charges are most likely what the Statica machine is based on.
If you place a highly inductive electromagnet in place of the bulb in the example above, you'll have a magnetic field produced that doesn't "consume" any power. Heater elements can be used the same way! This proves that all electromagnetism, heat and light are produced in electrical circuits by the "zero point" energy and the electricity is just a catalyst!!!
WE'VE BEEN USING F/E IN ALL OUR ELECTRICAL DEVICES RIGHT FROM THE START WITHOUT EVEN REALIZING IT!!

I ran across this today sounds like its worth a shot, capacitive discharge.

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/sgcarter.html

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on November 04, 2013, 03:55:28 PM

Mags, have u found free energy, if u have, let us know

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 04:38:03 PM

Where you at Mags been waiten for you to chime in all day :)
Three pots of coffee and two small bite size snicker bars ::) hell who needs illegal drugs lol.
zing zing zing
lol
dave out

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 04, 2013, 04:38:17 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 02:54:45 PM
I ran across this today sounds like its worth a shot, capacitive discharge.

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/sgcarter.html (http://www.linux-host.org/energy/sgcarter.html)

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thaths also from gyula suggestion to me before the ferrite ring magnet and the hv on the core did it in my project

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 05:24:32 PM

Capacitive discharge isnt this what happens when the spark gap fires

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 04, 2013, 06:43:17 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 04:38:03 PM
Where you at Mags been waiten for you to chime in all day :)
Three pots of coffee and two small bite size snicker bars ::) hell who needs illegal drugs lol.
zing zing zing
lol
dave out

hey Dave n Leely

No, no free energy yet. :) Didnt have much time for that this weekend. Will be testing the bifi primary for res freq tonight. Plus Ive been wanting to test out this Xprotolabs freq sweep and spectrum analyzer 1hz-125khz. Im hoping for a bump in that range else I need to wind a bifi with finer wire. Would like to stay below 100khz, and below 50khz if possible.
http://www.gabotronics.com/development-boards/xmega-xprotolab.htm

Then once I have the freq round about, the Xprotolabs wave form gen has square with duty cycle adjustments to drive a mosfet with driver to pulse the primary. And the scope can monitor whats going on. ;) The mosfet is from the PS that I pulled the transformer from and it is rated at 600v.

I also want to try using collapse current from a separate coil to try and pulse the bifi, being the capacitance of the bifi will accept the collapse spike, where a normal coil will impede it. ;)
Tito said to charge the capacitor with a coil, so this maybe what he is saying. ??? ;D

Easy enough to try. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 04, 2013, 06:46:59 PM

I think the supply voltage for both coils should be a common point and either seperate inductors or the same inductor. They shouldn't be on a core together...

I've been playing with this oscillator a bit, and added a center-tap transformer backwards; but the simulator doesn't really like that... the coils as done in prior sims are not on a shared core, and coulnd't find if falstad has a way to bind arbitrary inductors...

There is a harmonic between the input inductor and the frequency of the coil; if too big of an inductor is used.

The low ohm pullup resistors need to be high enough that the action from the coils is allowed; otherwise the fets don't go off; and they have to be low enough for an initial trigger to the gates; sort of a voltage divider; but both resistors could be increased after starting....

bleh; without proper inductor interaction hard to say what the real result is... but ya, now I understand where the zero in 'zero swtiching voltage' comes from :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2013, 09:25:17 PM

Hey J
Thats a wild coil you designed been watching your vids, what if you wound a primary around the core , Iv designed a couple of coils like yours, torus shaped.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 04, 2013, 09:58:52 PM

I haven't had much luck with mismatched inductances but yes, a few turn to a lot of turns should also work. I recently figured out how to properly drive a solenoid coil and be loosely coupled so this will work well for a tesla driver.... putting one of the concentrated focus points at near the end of a solenoid...

now I just need to wire my royer :) now that I understand how to control its frequency a little

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 05, 2013, 06:47:54 AM

bugged up :)
I used irfp 460

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 05, 2013, 06:54:35 AM

I cant let go of the ring magnet setup guess I will have to build it. Just to give an idea

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 05, 2013, 07:12:21 AM

RMcybernetics makes a prefab one but they are easy to build http://www.rmcybernetics.com/shop/cyber-circuits/pulse-generators/induction-heater-circuit , they also sell components http://www.rmcybernetics.com/shop/electronic-components/capacitors/polypropylene-1kv-330nf takes a week or so to get here in the States.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 05, 2013, 07:17:41 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on November 05, 2013, 07:12:21 AM
RMcybernetics makes a prefab one but they are easy to build http://www.rmcybernetics.com/shop/cyber-circuits/pulse-generators/induction-heater-circuit (http://www.rmcybernetics.com/shop/cyber-circuits/pulse-generators/induction-heater-circuit) , they also sell components http://www.rmcybernetics.com/shop/electronic-components/capacitors/polypropylene-1kv-330nf (http://www.rmcybernetics.com/shop/electronic-components/capacitors/polypropylene-1kv-330nf) takes a week or so to get here in the States.

that's nice :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 05, 2013, 07:37:01 AM

The choke takes alot of punishment Iv smoked mine a couple of times so I added another one seems to help :)
I plan on replacing the original one just havent done it yet, It cant have any insulation on the wire I really got it hot a couple of times.
This circuit is very tough Iv tortured it pretty good and its still working ;D
If we can make free energy with this circuit would be great, easy to build not complicated and very tough to break, the perfect circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 05, 2013, 07:47:22 AM

Igor Moroz has been doing alot of experiments using this circuit, not sure if you are familiar with his work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp9KgQPlP28

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on November 05, 2013, 08:25:10 AM

This is another key to free energy of Nikola Tesla. The In Phase Transformer=Magnetic Retardation or Magnetic Lag.

Tesla likes to play everything with free energy devices, He actually calls them high efficiency devices. He has hide the idea of self runner to the people likes of JP Morgan. This is how Tesla did it, after the Primary wound on a ferrite soft core, he place another thin core or plates above on the layer of the Primary before he wound the secondary or vice versa.

This is what happens when Tesla induced the primary with ac or dc-interuppter. The magnetic flux doesn't directly induced the secondary but it induced the CLOSE MAGNETIC CIRCUIT which is the close loop of Iron Plates or Iron Wires shorted. Tesla did this to produce a 90degs phase shift difference. We all know that the 90deg Phase Shift=Lenzless Effect. Am I right? The CLOSED MAGNETIC CIRCUIT is the one that induced the Secondary coils,thus resulting to magnetic retardation or magnetic lag.

It is your own way to find out. Sandwich the Primary on the TWO slide of Bread and roll the slice of Bread then wound your Secondary Coils. hahahaha ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: Dave45 on November 05, 2013, 07:37:01 AM
The choke takes alot of punishment Iv smoked mine a couple of times so I added another one seems to help :)
I plan on replacing the original one just havent done it yet, It cant have any insulation on the wire I really got it hot a couple of times.
This circuit is very tough Iv tortured it pretty good and its still working ;D
If we can make free energy with this circuit would be great, easy to build not complicated and very tough to break, the perfect circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 05, 2013, 09:03:46 AM

The ring magnet setup (not actually magnets) is a closed magnetic system as far as the magnetic field is concerned but still open to the environment. Im definately going to wind this up the more I think about it the more sense it makes.
I call it the ring magnet setup because this is the only way ring magnets will fit one inside the other nsns.
This will allow the bemf to collect in the secondary without changing the core polarity of the primary.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 06, 2013, 07:55:35 AM

Tesla said he worked for the future ;)
Im going to hook the zvs to this
I wonder if two Royer circuit's would work together and power this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k54edEpJMho (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k54edEpJMho)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: FatBird on November 06, 2013, 09:00:17 AM

Dave,

PLEASE re-post that schematic on WHITE paper.
It's impossible to read on that yellow paper.

Thanks.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 06, 2013, 09:04:10 AM

I wished I could, its a copy from the vid.
I wonder if it would effect a coil in the center like it does the egg.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 07, 2013, 07:15:06 PM

@leely

Kind of transformer is not a big deal!!! >:(

its from the arrangement!!!

There is really a very simple arrangement that in its simplicity, for me it is not even worthy to be called a circuit just "cir" only. ;D

There lies the real secret my friend. and an electronic component plays a major role.

since we are in its peak of progress, sorry but its not the cap the best yet. :( :(

its the component that we always overlook but its always there just watching. :)

Yesterday Nov 7, 2013 5:55 o'clock in the morning i just made a remarkable discovery. :) ;)
and made a more simple free energy and its the easiest free energy ever been discover.

i'm not sure if this is the secret of tesla cause its more simple, cause you don't need to know more, just basic electronic knowledge is required.

sorry but i have to go more deeply on this and have to experiment more on its variation. :)

next time fel

otoits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 07, 2013, 10:55:26 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 07, 2013, 07:15:06 PM
@leely

Kind of transformer is not a big deal!!! >:(

its from the arrangement!!!

There is really a very simple arrangement that in its simplicity, for me it is not even worthy to be called a circuit just "cir" only. ;D

There lies the real secret my friend. and an electronic component plays a major role.

since we are in its peak of progress, sorry but its not the cap the best yet. :( :(

its the component that we always overlook but its always there just watching. :)

Yesterday Nov 7, 2013 5:55 o'clock in the morning i just made a remarkable discovery. :) ;)
and made a more simple free energy and its the easiest free energy ever been discover.

i'm not sure if this is the secret of tesla cause its more simple, cause you don't need to know more, just basic electronic knowledge is required.

sorry but i have to go more deeply on this and have to experiment more on its variation. :)

next time fel

otoits ;D

A resistor? :P ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on November 08, 2013, 12:12:51 AM

diode ！
;D ;D

Weizisky

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 08, 2013, 03:11:49 AM

or Tri-ode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM3av6moJd4&list=RD02uaWrdbvhg1Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM3av6moJd4&list=RD02uaWrdbvhg1Q)

as time switch filter to limit the inrush current voltage

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4572992A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19860225&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4572992A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19860225&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

Sincerely
CdL

p.s. : overunity playlist : Negative Resistance

(di-ode/ tri-ode/ trans-istor /res-istor/ vari-stor )
Left to right
right to left
left and right
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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on November 08, 2013, 05:57:43 AM

I did some tests with a cap, inductor and a transformer(with a bifilar primary of 11 turns), sec high inductance. When I pulsed the primary with the charged capacitor, the output was more like an induction coil output. when I changed the secondary to a higher guage wire, the voltage dropped so much that i did not get any sparks. So I keep on wondering, Tiito, what did you actually do to get high amps with voltage with just minimum input? :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on November 08, 2013, 10:59:26 AM

Some of the components i used.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 09, 2013, 03:08:40 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 07, 2013, 07:15:06 PM
@leely

Kind of transformer is not a big deal!!! >:(

its from the arrangement!!!

There is really a very simple arrangement that in its simplicity, for me it is not even worthy to be called a circuit just "cir" only. ;D

There lies the real secret my friend. and an electronic component plays a major role.

since we are in its peak of progress, sorry but its not the cap the best yet. :( :(

its the component that we always overlook but its always there just watching. :)

Yesterday Nov 7, 2013 5:55 o'clock in the morning i just made a remarkable discovery. :) ;)
and made a more simple free energy and its the easiest free energy ever been discover.

i'm not sure if this is the secret of tesla cause its more simple, cause you don't need to know more, just basic electronic knowledge is required.

sorry but i have to go more deeply on this and have to experiment more on its variation. :)
next time fel :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(
WHHHHAT 3 MORE YEARS BIRO SLANG PRO
Merry xmas x 3
Otot
otoits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: penno64 on November 09, 2013, 03:57:37 AM

The component is a capacitor to create a phase shift.

and so, coils have inherent capacitance

Penno

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on November 09, 2013, 07:01:56 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 07, 2013, 07:15:06 PM
@leely

Kind of transformer is not a big deal!!! >:(

its from the arrangement!!!

There is really a very simple arrangement that in its simplicity, for me it is not even worthy to be called a circuit just "cir" only. ;D

There lies the real secret my friend. and an electronic component plays a major role.

since we are in its peak of progress, sorry but its not the cap the best yet. :( :(

its the component that we always overlook but its always there just watching. :)

Yesterday Nov 7, 2013 5:55 o'clock in the morning i just made a remarkable discovery. :) ;)
and made a more simple free energy and its the easiest free energy ever been discover.

i'm not sure if this is the secret of tesla cause its more simple, cause you don't need to know more, just basic electronic knowledge is required.

sorry but i have to go more deeply on this and have to experiment more on its variation. :)

next time fel

otoits ;D

Can you give it to some of of us to replicate it? :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 09, 2013, 08:11:34 AM

Hopefully I'll get it built today,
Im just trying to keep the core from heating for now ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on November 09, 2013, 12:41:37 PM

Quote from: Leely on November 09, 2013, 07:01:56 AM

Can you give it to some of of us to replicate it? :D

He's just trying to throw everyone off. you will never see anything usefull from this tit guy. he just likes attention. ignore him.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 09, 2013, 03:36:01 PM

Tito may not have internet at the moment, at the least, as the storm hit them real hard.

Hope all is well Tito. ;) Chime in if you can so we know your ok. :)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 09, 2013, 03:40:18 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on November 09, 2013, 08:11:34 AM
Hopefully I'll get it built today,
Im just trying to keep the core from heating for now ;)

The Mazzilli driver will not run it, not sure why but no oscillation, could be its dependent on bemf.
Anyway Im going to use the Mazzilli to drive it indirectly through the bifilar transformer I built earlier, but not till tomorrow, gonna sleep on it study it for awhile :)

later
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 09, 2013, 03:43:43 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 09, 2013, 03:36:01 PM
Tito may not have internet at the moment, at the least, as the storm hit them real hard.

Hope all is well Tito. ;) Chime in if you can so we know your ok. :)

Mags

Stay dry stay safe Tito, we will send a prayer for you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 09, 2013, 04:10:06 PM

Quote from: Leely on November 08, 2013, 10:59:26 AM
Some of the components i used.

I have seen some transformers like the ones you show in the pic, that have bifi windings in parallel just to reduce the total winding size yet use the same amount of copper for current handling, due to the open spaces between turns is less.

So one of those transformers can be configured as a bifi that is already to go, if what is being said is true about the bifi as a primary.

My transformer shown earlier has a resonant freq that is out of the range I want to deal with. But i pulled out an older transformer I had wound a while back, but it is a trifi, 3 wires, with a step down sec wound close to the core. Now this one I get resonant peaks, and if I add a small cap across the bifi while sending a sig through the 3rd strand, the bifi with cap rings just above 1khz. Will do a short vid to show some things with that.

Im going by a simple setup using the Xprotolab as a sig gen sweep and spectrum analyzer, where they show how to read a parallel LC. The spectrum probe across the bifi coil and a 220ohm resistor in line with the sig gen.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 09, 2013, 08:11:28 PM

Cool toys ;D I wished I had your expertise.
Here is a great analogy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6cDc8k-t9w of what we need to do.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on November 10, 2013, 04:32:56 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bbem on November 10, 2013, 09:19:30 AM

Hopefully all Filipinos and their families contributing to this thread and a better world, are OK after the super storm last week.
May your God(s) be with you.

Regards, Bert

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 10, 2013, 02:05:01 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on November 09, 2013, 08:11:28 PM
Cool toys ;D I wished I had your expertise.
Here is a great analogy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6cDc8k-t9w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6cDc8k-t9w) of what we need to do.

Something like this?

Also, saw videos (12 minute clips)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba6G9vyhVFU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba6G9vyhVFU) 1/4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vihLxTVGJ3Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vihLxTVGJ3Y) 2/4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKjGbCJfb9w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKjGbCJfb9w) 3/4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwvsOmmh3Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwvsOmmh3Q) 4/4

They are a walkthrough of the tunnels under the giza plateau. They have chambers with notches cut on one end... would remind me of tesla's motionless valve

the tunnels and wells/chambers also have a strong acoustic resonance

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 10, 2013, 03:40:14 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtxeynJ4UcA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtxeynJ4UcA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QvjB0dx1l4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QvjB0dx1l4)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 10, 2013, 03:59:03 PM

What say you

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 10, 2013, 04:35:40 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtxeynJ4UcA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtxeynJ4UcA)
totoalas: Do you have a circuit diagram for this build?
All the best.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 10, 2013, 05:12:33 PM

Quote from: totoalas on November 10, 2013, 03:40:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtxeynJ4UcA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtxeynJ4UcA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QvjB0dx1l4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QvjB0dx1l4)

Nice job Toto. Congrats. ;)

You are in the Philippines?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 10, 2013, 07:38:41 PM

thanks,
im in Macau but unfortunate for my countrymen 1000+ lives still missing

the schematic is also here in this thread and at the IAEC forum build off information
thanks again to Gyula and Otits

Title: Self loop Generator
Post by: totoalas on November 10, 2013, 08:15:33 PM

mini-UES "the demo unit" Unlimited Energy Server you tube by jasondaz2009 from the Philippines

http://youtu.be/z8g2TZoZDHs (http://youtu.be/z8g2TZoZDHs)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 11, 2013, 03:09:26 AM

toto, warm greetings and thanks, I hope you all soon recover ...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 11, 2013, 04:52:39 AM

Quote from: forest on November 11, 2013, 03:09:26 AM
toto, warm greetings and thanks, I hope you all soon recover ...

Thanks
350 Km per hour winds flatten one island kept crying when we see them relived their stories... Were used to ryphoons but not this one
With Gods help will survive ... Another one coming 55km per hour this Friday same route.....

Cheers

Toto

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 11, 2013, 11:28:19 PM

What can anyone say. It has to be one of the worst disasters ever.
My sympathies to the poor people.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 12, 2013, 12:05:25 PM

Falstad simulation of power amplifier. (http://www.falstad.com/circuit/#%24+1+5.0E-6+10.20027730826997+50+5.0+50%0Aw+352+320+352+288+0%0Aw+352+288+352+192+0%0Aw+320+224+320+192+0%0Aw+288+288+288+192+0%0Aw+288+320+288+288+0%0Ar+352+288+288+288+0+13.0%0Ag+320+224+320+256+0%0Av+288+96+352+96+0+1+40.0+15.0+0.0+0.0+0.5%0A169+352+96+352+192+0+4.0+1.0+0.6226314265129105+-0.741807717816018+-0.7418066537753368%0A162+288+320+288+368+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+288+368+288+416+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+288+416+288+448+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+352+368+352+400+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+352+320+352+368+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+352+400+352+432+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+352+432+352+448+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0Ag+288+448+288+464+0%0Ag+352+448+352+464+0%0Ao+7+64+1+35+20.0+9.765625E-5+0+-1%0Ao+5+64+1+35+10.0+9.765625E-5+1+-1%0Ao+5+64+0+35+20.0+1.6+2+-1%0A) (Java reqd.)

This is essentially what I have on my bench. and I'm pretty sure that I'm getting more out than in... but pushing more power I'm exceeding the limits of my drivers...

2.83W in 7.29W out (changing the load resistor decreases output...
at 20 ohms input goes down to 1.65W and output to 7.05W but the LED load lights in both... err only one direction (power not calculated for this load)

32 ohm resistance and the LED load on the other side just begins to light (I'm really starting to like this simulator

50 ohm resistor both sides light input down to 660mw and 4W output. Voltage and current in phase on load.

The simulation is only partially true. It's a 1:1 transformer (basically) but the outputs are wound together bifilar, one end is grounded on one, the other end is grounded to the other, the outside ends don't have to be put to LED load to ground, it can just go across an incandescent to light it. (failed flourescent, with internal driver intact). ...

The inductance on the simulation matters also, if the inductance on the transformer is too low, then the input power exceeds the output.

; meh (what I mean to say, is sorry if you cliked the link and read this far); all the power is negative... it's -10W in and 7.29W out....

(just have the voltage source backwards)

Another falstad sim. (http://www.falstad.com/circuit/#%24+1+5.0E-6+10.20027730826997+50+5.0+50%0Aw+336+288+336+256+0%0Aw+304+192+304+160+0%0Aw+272+256+272+160+0%0Aw+272+288+272+256+0%0Ar+336+256+272+256+0+13.0%0Ag+304+192+304+224+0%0Av+272+64+336+64+0+1+40.0+15.0+0.0+0.0+0.5%0A169+336+64+336+160+0+4.0+1.0+-0.21129530128135846+0.5352559190867386+0.535256446833282%0A162+272+288+272+336+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+272+336+272+384+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+272+384+272+416+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+336+336+336+368+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+336+288+336+336+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+336+368+336+400+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+336+400+336+416+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0Ag+272+416+272+432+0%0Ag+336+416+336+432+0%0AT+416+64+464+128+0+4.0+1.0+-3.07464551055844E-19+2.735749544494454E-19+0.999%0Ag+512+128+512+160+0%0Aw+464+128+512+128+0%0A162+464+64+512+64+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+512+64+544+64+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+544+64+592+64+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0Ag+592+64+592+80+0%0Ag+224+96+224+112+0%0A162+176+96+224+96+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+144+96+176+96+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0A162+96+96+144+96+1+2.1024259+1.0+0.0+0.0%0Aw+96+160+144+160+0%0Ag+144+160+144+192+0%0AT+48+96+96+160+0+4.0+1.0+-2.0287895169226737E-32+2.034738087153493E-32+0.999%0Aw+336+64+416+64+0%0Aw+272+64+48+64+0%0Aw+48+64+48+96+0%0Aw+336+160+336+256+0%0Ao+6+64+1+419+20.0+9.765625E-5+0+-1%0Ao+4+64+1+35+10.0+9.765625E-5+1+-1%0Ao+4+64+0+35+20.0+1.6+2+-1%0A) This is more like what I have right now...(second picture) But this is where simulators start to fail. I actually get enough power to light loads on the branches from the oscillator . (well, actually I only have one, and it's a conventional bifilar ferrite toroid, and in resonance, it has some power... but its performance decreases with increased input voltage because the oscillator runs slower, which is a lower gap between pulses. The Immediate loads which aren't here shape the pulse so I get a nice strong pulse that causes an oscillation... a low voltage, high current load, diminishes the ability to get a good signal out to a load... I could light a 75V neon bulb with a 60V pulse from the coil, at like 1/5'th harmonic... so there was 5 pulses of the resonant circuit for 1 input, but the signal was fairly asymetrical because of the loading I had on the mazilli sides... A non load will yield absolutely highest voltage, and it will be symmetric.

But, I've had places where I had 100V +/- from ground and it wouldn't spark the neon at all.... When I have that, I pick up the pulse pretty much anywhere with the scope probe floating. I just see it more when it's attached to a wire attached to the circuit....

Also I've chained lots more coils at various points, and they end up with a measurable voltage, but that voltage is useless to do anything with. Attaching that voltage to anything at all like ground is bad.... but it can drive resonance in other parts I think; not enough ferrites to balance everything to the same rates... not enough coils of low enough frequencies.....

(third picture, includes the loads on sides of mazzilli capacitor)

(4th picture just replaces signal generator with real generator...) doesn't work. Fails. Interaction is really that the 2 coils are together on a core, and the other bifilar is on that same core (quad filament essentially)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 12, 2013, 01:23:05 PM

the "father" of the diode:

Ferdinand Braun

Ferdinand Braun , 1909
Karl Ferdinand Braun ( born June 6 1850 in Fulda , † 20 April 1918 in New York ) was a German physicist , electrical engineer and Nobel laureate (1909 , shared with Guglielmo Marconi) , who starred in particularly because of the Heinrich Hertz in 1888 to make experimentally proven electromagnetic radiation newsworthy available .
Contents [hide ]
1 Biography
1.1 Family and Education
1.2 work as a teacher
1.3 as a professor
1.4 Honours
2 inventions and developments
2.1 Braun tube
2.2 Receiver
2.3 radio transmitter
2.4 antennas
2.5 Brown ULTRASONIC electroscope
3 Telefunken
4 Works
5 References
6 Literature and Media
7 links
Biography [edit ]

Family and Education [ Edit]
The sixth of seven children of the Hessian court officials Konrad Ferdinand Braun visited the Domgymnasium Fulda. His eldest brother was Wunibald Brown, the co-founder of Hartmann & Braun . After high school he studied from 1868 Mathematics and Natural Sciences at the University of Marburg . 1868/69 he was Konkneipant , on 6 May 1878 Corp. loop carrier Teutonia Marburg. [ 1] [ 2] The Corps also belonged to his brothers Philip and Adolf . In 1885, Brown married his wife Amélie Buhler from Lahr Baden , and they had two sons and two daughters .
1869 Brown went to Berlin , where he was allowed to work in the private laboratory of Heinrich Gustav Magnus , which was considered a special award . After Magnus ' death in the spring of 1870 Brown continued his studies at Georg Hermann Quincke continue . About string vibrations he graduated in 1872 as Doctor of Physics ( Dr. phil. ) . [3 ]
Activity as a teacher [ Edit]
Since Brown had no money to be working as an assistant and later lecturer , he put 1873 in Marburg the state exam for high school and adopted the following year a second job as a teacher of mathematics and natural sciences at the St. Thomas School at Leipzig . There he ran the way scientific studies of vibration and power line, he managed his first big discovery . To this he expresses himself in the annals of physics and chemistry from 1874: " ... when a large number of natural and artificial sulphides ... the resistance was the same with different direction , intensity and duration of the current. Differences up to 30 % of the entire value . "
This rectifier effect of lead sulfide crystals disagreed with Ohm's law , but found little attention . However, it established the scientific reputation of Ferdinand Braun . One explanation for this effect was brown , despite intensive research life no more , this time lacked even the basic physics - it was not until the 20th Century with the findings of quantum physics. He still does so as the discoverer of semiconductor diode in 1874.
During his time in Leipzig Brown wrote his only book, " The young mathematician and scientist - Introduction to the secrets of numbers and wonders of arithmetic " , which appeared in 1876 [ 4] He did so with his students interest in the mathematical and physical . laws of nature awaken .
As a professor [ Edit]
1877 Brown was appointed associate professor of theoretical physics at Marburg . He went to Strasbourg in 1880 and received in 1883 a full professor of physics at the University of Karlsruhe. In 1887, he received a call from the Eberhard Karls University of Tübingen , where he worked in management positions in the founding and building of the Physics Institute with . In 1895 he became director of the Institute of Physics and Full Professor of Kaiser-Wilhelms- University of Strasbourg . 1905/ 06 he was its rector. [ 5 ]
Brown was among his students as a master of intelligible speech and the spectacular even for amateurs experiment , a style of his loose, sometimes humorously written textbook " The young mathematician and scientist " continued into which appeared in numerous print runs in 1875. He also wrote numerous articles for the satirical magazine Flying leaves .
Of his students are particularly noteworthy Jonathan Zenneck , a pioneer of Ion Research and Leonid Mandelstam Isaakowitsch Papalexi and Nikolai Dmitrievich ( 1880-1947 ) , they founded the Russian high-frequency technology . Max Dieckmann was a doctoral student and assistant to him.
Honours [edit ]
Brown was awarded the 1909 Nobel Prize in Physics for his contribution to the development of wireless telegraphy . He shared the Nobel Prize with the Italian Guglielmo Marconi.
The Ferdinand -Braun- school in his native city of Fulda is a technical vocational school.
The Ferdinand -Braun-Institut , Leibniz Institute for High Frequency Technology , a research organization based in Berlin , bears his name.
Several streets are named after him , including in Bocholt, Bremen-Horn -Lehe , Cuxhaven Dusseldorf , Fulda, Heilbronn , Nuremberg and Würzburg.
According to § 3 of honor as the city of Fulda is citizens who have undertaken special efforts and have thereby contributed to the reputation of the city, awarded the Ferdinand -Braun- Medal of the City of Fulda.
Inventions and developments [ Edit]

Braun tube [ Edit]
The still ongoing awareness Brown owes its cathode ray tube , which is according to him, also often called Braun tube . Today it is quoted under a high vacuum tube in which an electron beam can be deflected in horizontal and vertical direction. The first version , it was in 1897 still in Karlsruhe , but was not so far from perfect out : they had only a cold cathode and a moderate vacuum to 100,000 V accelerating voltage required to recognize a tracer of the magnetically deflected beam can . The magnetic deflection also affected only one direction , the other was built from a rotating mirror in front of the illuminated area . But the industry was immediately interested in this invention , which is why they could be developed immediately . In 1899 led Browns assistant Zenneck relaxation oscillations for magnetic Y deflection a , later followed by thermionic cathode , control grid cylinder and high vacuum. This tube could not be used for Oscilloscopes, but by Manfred von Ardenne was the first time as a fundamental component in the first all-electronic television broadcast on 14 December 1930 , used as a so-called picture tube for television , although Brown had this even as designated unsuitable for television .
Radio receiver [ Edit]
With his invention tube Braun began in the field of wireless telegraphy to investigate . A problem in the wireless technology was functioning in a reliable receiver Brown was accustomed as a physicist to deal with reproducible experimental conditions , these conditions corresponded to the then usual coherer receiver but barely . Thus, Brown replaced the coherer by a crystal detector , which then brought a huge improvement in the sensitivity of the receiver - even if the crystal detector had to be stopped cleanly again. Only the electron tube could replace the crystal detector, but still found use for some time in low cost receivers . Also the first VHF radars have used a detector.
The tech-savvy producer Ludwig Cologne Chocolate Stollwerckstraße founded end of 1898 in Cologne, a consortium for the exploitation of patents Braun . Stollwerckstraße brought a 560,000 Mark share capital . After reaching the radio communication over a greater distance , the consortium was "Professor Brown 's Telegraph Company Ltd. " converted to the later Telefunken AG emerged from the . 1900, Stollwerckstraße the contact to Professor August , CEO of " Siemens & Halske Telegraph Construction Company " , which later took over the apparatus .
Radio transmitter [ Edit]

The Brown transmitter

24th September 1900 , wireless bridge Cuxhaven - Helgoland Köpsel , Brown, Zenneck
Transmitting end, Brown was the wireless technology also help to enormous advances : Guglielmo Marconi had brought about his mainly empirically transmitter so that could improve viewing of the physical background it brown. Were swinging and circular antenna original one, so separating these two parts brown . Now there was a primary circuit , consisting of capacitor and spark gap , and a mind inductively coupled antenna circuit , thereby so that the emitted energy could be increased in this system.
So it came back in 1899 to such powerful systems that the term " Ferntelegrafie " received his permission : you could previously only up to 20 km bridge , the distance records increased from month to month. On 24 September 1900 achieved a wireless bridge between Cuxhaven and Helgoland over a distance of 62 km. [6 ] On 12 December 1901 Marconi radio signals received from his station Poldhu (Cornwall ) on Signal Hill in St. John's , Newfoundland. Marconi used a transmitter circuit in brown . Whether this reception has been actually possible is controversial in the literature.
In parallel, Brown tried to replace the spark - bang technology , which produced only damped oscillations . He succeeded with alternators, the undamped oscillations generated , while it was not yet possible a feedback circuit with electron tubes .
Antennas [ Edit]
An early problem of radio relay , the targeting of transmit and receive antennas to each other , Brown also very busy . He was one of the first who succeeded in a directional radiation .
Brown ULTRASONIC electroscope [ Edit]
Brown is considered the inventor of the Zeigerelektroskops , which is therefore named after him. [7 ]
Telefunken [ Edit]

Brown was one of the founders of the Funkentelegrafie GmbH in Cologne (1898 ) and the Society for wireless telegraphy Telefunken in Berlin ( 1903) . The latter led him aged 64 and with ailing health to New York : The large radio station at Sayville , the counterpart to Nauen should cease operations due to patent litigation. The process dragged on , after Brown was surprised by the USA entered the war , and therefore no longer allowed to go back . He lived as a war internee [8 ] largely undisturbed in Brooklyn until 20 April 1918 died as a result of an accident.
His wish was to be buried in his hometown of Fulda was . As an overpass during the First World War was not possible , succeeded his son Conrad first in 1921 to convict the urn containing the remains of Fulda. The funeral took place on Saturday 4th June 1921 , at 11 clock 30th There were , in glorious weather , few people appeared because at the same time the main rally was held a diocesan Catholic Conference . The magistrate was represented only by a subordinate official.
Works [ Edit]

Wireless telegraphy through water and air. Severus , Hamburg 2010 , ISBN 978-3-942382-02-1 ( reprint of the original edition of 1901) .
Secrets and wonders of the number of arithmetic , with an introduction by Hans -Erhard Lessing, rororo 60808 , Reinbek 2000, ISBN 3-499-60808-1 .
References [edit ]

High jumping ↑ Blue Book of the Corps Teutonia Marburg from 1825 to 2000 to
High jumping ↑ Kösener Corp. lists in 1930, 104 , 530
High jumping ↑ dissertation: About the influence of stiffness , mounting and amplitude of the vibrations of strings
High jumping ↑ Karl Ferdinand Braun : secrets and wonders of the number of arithmetic . Abridged edition , Reinbek 2000, ISBN 3-499-60808-1
High jumping ↑ Rector's Address ( HKM )
High jumping ↑ Prof. F. Brown . Wireless telegraphy through water and air, Veit & Comp , Leipzig ( 1901)
High jumping ↑ Sven H. Grooms from the physics lab : Principles and experiments in classical physics school , page 172 Partly online available at Google Books
High jumping ↑ Gottlieb Tesmer , Walther Müller: honor roll of St. Thomas School in Leipzig. The teachers and graduates of the St. Thomas School in Leipzig from 1912 to 1932 . On behalf of the Thomanerbundes , self-publishing, Leipzig , 1934, p 1
Literature and Media [ Edit]

Zenneck Jonathan Brown , Karl Ferdinand . In : New German Biography ( NDB ) . Volume 2 , Duncker & Humblot , Berlin , 1955, ISBN 3-428-00183-4 , pp. 554 f ( digitized ) .
Friedrich Kurylo : Ferdinand Braun. Life and work of the inventor of the Braun tube . Moss, Munich in 1965.
Florian Hars : Ferdinand Braun (1850 - 1918). A Wilhelmine physicist. Diepholz , publisher of the History of Natural Science and Technology , Berlin 1999, ISBN 978-3-928186-39-1 .
Kurt Hunter, Frederick Heilbronner : Encyclopedia of Electrical Engineers . 2 Edition . VDE, Berlin / Offenbach 2010, ISBN 978-3-8007-2903-6 ( table of contents , PDF , 125 KB) .
Milestones of modern communication. P.M. The knowledge Edition. Documentation , DVD, 2007 ( in Chap Brown 15 min ) EAN 4260121730866
Michael Mott : Pioneer of Telecommunications / When television pioneer and Nobel laureate became Ferdinand Braun (1850-1918) world fame , in: Fulda newspaper , 31 December 2008 , p 14 (Series : Fulda heads).
External links [ edit]

Wikisource : Ferdinand Braun - sources and full texts
Commons : Karl Ferdinand Braun - Collection of pictures, videos and audio files
Information of the Nobel Foundation to award 1909 Ferdinand Braun (English)
Literature by and about Ferdinand Braun in the catalog that German national library
The Cathode Ray Tube site
Short film ( 4 min ) of the 100 students at the University of Fulda Return of the Nobel Prize in 2009
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Winner of the Nobel Prize for Physics
1901 X | 1902 Lorentz, Zeeman | 1903 Becquerel, M. Curie, P. Curie | 1904 Rayleigh | 1905 : Lenard | 1906 JJ Thomson | 1907 Michelson | 1908 : Lippmann | 1909: Brown, Marconi | 1910 : van der Waals | 1911 Vienna | 1912 Dalén | 1913: Kamerlingh Onnes | 1914: Laue | 1915 WH Bragg, WL Bragg | 1916 : not awarded | 1917 Barkla | 1918 Planck | 1919 High | 1920: Guillaume | 1921: Einstein | 1922 N. Drilling | 1923 Millikan | 1924 M. Siegbahn | 1925 Franck Hertz | 1926 Perrin | 1927 Compton, CTR Wilson | 1928 : O. W. Richardson | 1929: de Broglie | 1930 : Raman | 1931 : not awarded | 1932 : Heisenberg | 1933 Schrödinger , Dirac | 1934 : not awarded | 1935: Chadwick | 1936 Hess , CD Anderson | 1937: Davisson , GP Thomson | 1938: Fermi | 1939: Lawrence | 1940-1942 : not awarded | 1943 : star | 1944 Rabi | 1945: Paul | 1946 Bridgman | 1947: Appleton | 1948: Blackett | 1949 Yukawa | 1950 Powell | 1951 Cockcroft Walton | 1952: Bloch, Purcell | 1953 Zernike | 1954 : Born, Bothe | 1955: Lamb , Kush | 1956 Shockley , Bardeen, Brattain | 1957 Yang, T.-D. Lee | 1958 : Cherenkov , Frank , Tamm | 1959 : Segre , Chamberlain | 1960: Glaziers | 1961: Hofstadter , Mössbauer | 1962 : Landau | 1963: Wigner , Goeppert- Mayer, Jensen | 1964 Townes , Basov , Prokhorov | 1965 Feynman , Schwinger , Tomonaga | 1966 Kastler | 1967: Bethe | 1968 Alvarez | 1969 Gell-Mann | 1970: Alfvén , Neel | 1971: Gábor | 1972 Bardeen , Cooper, Schrieffer | 1973: Esaki , Giaever , Josephson | 1974 : Ryle , Hewish | 1975: AN Bohr, Mottelson , Rainwater | 1976: Judge , Ting | 1977 PW Anderson, Mott, Van Vleck | 1978 Kapitsa , Penzias and RW Wilson | 1979 : Glashow , Salam , Weinberg | 1980: Cronin, Fitch | 1981 Bloembergen , Schawlow K. Siegbahn | 1982 : K. Wilson | 1983 : Chandrasekhar , Fowler | 1984 Rubbia , van der Meer | 1985 Klitzing | 1986 Ruska , Binnig , Rohrer | 1987 : Bednorz , Müller | 1988 : Lederman , Schwartz, Steinberger | 1989 : Paul, Dehmelt , Ramsey | 1990: Friedman, Kendall, RE Taylor | 1991 de Gennes | 1992 Charpak | 1993 Hulse , JH Taylor, Jr. | 1994 : Brockhouse , Shull | 1995 : Perl, Pure | 1996 DM Lee, Osheroff , RC Richardson | 1997 : Chu , Cohen- Tannoudji , Phillips | 1998 : Laughlin, Störmer , Tsui | 1999 : 't Hooft , Veltman | 2000 : Alferov , Kroemer , Kilby | 2001 : Cornell , Ketterle , Wieman | 2002: Davis Jr. , Koshiba , Giacconi | 2003 : Abrikosov , Ginzburg , Leggett | 2004 : Gross, Politzer , Wilczek | 2005 : Glauber , Hall, Hänsch | 2006 : Mather, Smoot | 2007 : Fert , Grünberg | 2008 : Nambu , Kobayashi, Maskawa | 2009 : Kao , Boyle, Smith | 2010 : Geim , Novoselov | 2011 : Perlmutter , Schmidt, Riess | 2012: Haroche , Wineland | 2013 : Englert, Higgs

And what did his "Dr. -sons" Mandelstam and Papalexi ?
https://www.google.pt/?gws_rd=cr&ei=LnKCUo72CMfPtQbO_oGABA#q=mandelstam+papalexi (https://www.google.pt/?gws_rd=cr&ei=LnKCUo72CMfPtQbO_oGABA#q=mandelstam+papalexi)

With my best regard
CL

p.s.: here Sr.Oraczion
for safe drink-water producing
http://daigdigpinoy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=51:ernesto-labuntog&catid=34:filipino-inventors&Itemid=66 (http://daigdigpinoy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=51:ernesto-labuntog&catid=34:filipino-inventors&Itemid=66)

and for less consume of emergency gen-sets:
http://nuvitronicstechnologies.blogspot.pt/ (http://nuvitronicstechnologies.blogspot.pt/)

Best wishes from Portugal

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 13, 2013, 03:40:07 AM

A good morning,
here a link from overunity.de member wanninger which gives probably some answers about "free energy"-machines:
http://www.veproject1.org/

With no ,sometimes to accept cause neo-ak behaviour ,IAEO-confiscation risk and denominated: workable

Sincerely
CL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 13, 2013, 06:29:09 AM

Regarding that hydraulic solution to gain uphill...

Falstad simulation (http://www.falstad.com/circuit/#%24+1+4.9999999999999996E-6+0.4871165999245475+50+12.0+50%0Aw+992+256+992+224+0%0Aw+960+160+960+128+0%0Aw+928+224+928+128+0%0Aw+928+256+928+224+0%0Ag+960+160+960+192+0%0Av+928+32+992+32+0+1+7000.0+15.0+0.0+0.0+0.5%0A169+992+32+992+128+0+3.0E-4+1.0+0.008928017747172445+0.0+4.440892098500626E-16%0Aw+992+128+992+224+0%0Ad+960+256+992+256+1+0.805904783%0Ad+992+256+1024+256+1+0.805904783%0Aw+928+256+928+272+0%0Aw+960+272+960+304+0%0Aw+1024+256+1024+304+0%0Aw+960+256+896+256+0%0Aw+896+256+896+272+0%0Af+784+240+736+240+0+1.5%0Af+784+336+736+336+0+1.5%0Ar+816+336+816+384+0+10000.0%0Ar+848+336+848+304+0+1000.0%0Ar+816+240+816+272+0+10000.0%0Ar+848+192+848+240+0+1100.0%0Ac+944+336+912+336+0+1.0E-5+11.743787588164416%0Aw+944+336+960+336+0%0Aw+960+336+960+304+0%0Aw+912+336+896+336+0%0Aw+896+336+896+272+0%0Aw+880+304+880+256+0%0Aw+880+256+880+192+0%0Aw+880+192+848+192+0%0Aw+848+240+816+240+0%0Aw+816+240+784+240+0%0Aw+848+336+816+336+0%0Ad+784+240+784+272+1+0.805904783%0Ad+800+336+800+320+1+0.805904783%0Aw+784+336+800+336+0%0Aw+816+336+800+336+0%0Aw+800+320+800+304+0%0Aw+800+304+688+304+0%0Aw+688+304+688+224+0%0Aw+688+224+736+224+0%0Aw+784+272+784+288+0%0Aw+784+288+736+288+0%0Aw+736+288+736+320+0%0Al+672+352+672+416+0+3.0E-4+-2.7072910141441544%0Al+672+416+672+480+0+3.0E-4+-2.0346743837134307%0Aw+800+416+816+416+0%0Aw+816+416+816+384+0%0Aw+816+272+816+304+0%0Aw+816+304+832+304+0%0Aw+832+304+832+416+0%0Aw+832+416+816+416+0%0Aw+736+256+720+256+0%0Aw+720+256+720+352+0%0Aw+720+352+736+352+0%0Aw+720+416+800+416+0%0Aw+672+352+672+224+0%0Aw+688+224+672+224+0%0Aw+704+400+704+416+0%0Aw+704+416+672+416+0%0Ac+640+384+640+448+0+1.0E-5+-8.687226658916904%0Aw+672+352+640+352+0%0Aw+640+352+640+384+0%0Aw+640+448+640+480+0%0Aw+640+480+672+480+0%0Aw+800+416+800+432+0%0Aw+1024+304+992+304+0%0Aw+992+304+960+304+0%0Aw+848+304+864+304+0%0Aw+864+304+880+304+0%0Aw+864+304+864+336+0%0Aw+864+400+864+384+0%0Aw+864+336+864+384+0%0Ad+896+272+928+272+1+0.805904783%0Ad+928+272+960+272+1+0.805904783%0Ag+896+224+896+192+0%0Aw+864+400+944+400+0%0Aw+800+432+896+432+0%0As+896+432+896+400+0+0+false%0As+944+400+944+368+0+0+false%0Aw+896+368+896+400+0%0Aw+960+368+944+368+0%0Aw+672+480+688+480+0%0Aw+688+480+688+320+0%0Aw+688+320+736+320+0%0Aw+720+416+720+352+0%0Al+736+400+800+400+0+3.9999999999999996E-5+-0.672616630430724%0Aw+736+400+704+400+0%0Aw+800+400+864+400+0%0Ad+960+336+960+368+1+0.805904783%0Ad+896+368+896+336+1+0.805904783%0Ad+464+432+464+400+1+0.805904783%0Ad+528+400+528+432+1+0.805904783%0Aw+368+464+432+464+0%0Aw+304+464+272+464+0%0Al+304+464+368+464+0+3.9999999999999996E-5+2.0126661783437865E-16%0Aw+288+480+288+416+0%0Aw+256+384+304+384+0%0Aw+256+544+256+384+0%0Aw+240+544+256+544+0%0Aw+528+432+512+432+0%0Aw+464+432+464+464+0%0As+512+464+512+432+0+1+false%0As+464+496+464+464+0+1+false%0Aw+368+496+464+496+0%0Aw+432+464+512+464+0%0Ad+496+336+528+336+1+0.805904783%0Ad+464+336+496+336+1+0.805904783%0Aw+432+400+432+448+0%0Aw+432+464+432+448+0%0Aw+432+368+432+400+0%0Aw+432+368+448+368+0%0Aw+416+368+432+368+0%0Aw+560+368+528+368+0%0Aw+592+368+560+368+0%0Aw+368+480+368+496+0%0Aw+208+544+240+544+0%0Aw+208+512+208+544+0%0Aw+208+416+208+448+0%0Aw+240+416+208+416+0%0Ac+208+448+208+512+0+1.0E-5+9.963586548231832E-4%0Aw+272+480+240+480+0%0Aw+272+464+272+480+0%0Aw+256+288+240+288+0%0Aw+240+416+240+288+0%0Aw+288+480+368+480+0%0Aw+288+416+304+416+0%0Aw+288+320+288+416+0%0Aw+304+320+288+320+0%0Aw+400+480+384+480+0%0Aw+400+368+400+480+0%0Aw+384+368+400+368+0%0Aw+384+336+384+368+0%0Aw+384+480+384+448+0%0Aw+368+480+384+480+0%0Al+240+480+240+544+0+3.0E-4+-1.0186940200532186E-5%0Al+240+416+240+480+0+3.0E-4+-1.0186940200330917E-5%0Aw+304+352+304+384+0%0Aw+352+352+304+352+0%0Aw+352+336+352+352+0%0Aw+256+288+304+288+0%0Aw+256+368+256+288+0%0Aw+368+368+256+368+0%0Aw+368+384+368+368+0%0Aw+384+400+368+400+0%0Aw+352+400+368+400+0%0Ad+368+400+368+384+1+0.805904783%0Ad+352+304+352+336+1+0.805904783%0Aw+416+400+384+400+0%0Aw+384+304+352+304+0%0Aw+416+304+384+304+0%0Aw+448+256+416+256+0%0Aw+448+320+448+256+0%0Aw+448+368+448+320+0%0Aw+464+400+464+336+0%0Aw+480+400+464+400+0%0Aw+528+400+528+368+0%0Aw+512+400+528+400+0%0Ac+512+400+480+400+0+1.0E-5+10.188398775870155%0Ar+416+256+416+304+0+1100.0%0Ar+384+304+384+336+0+10000.0%0Ar+416+400+416+368+0+1000.0%0Ar+384+400+384+448+0+10000.0%0Af+352+400+304+400+0+1.5%0Af+352+304+304+304+0+1.5%0Aw+464+320+464+336+0%0Aw+528+320+464+320+0%0Aw+592+320+592+368+0%0Aw+528+336+528+368+0%0Aw+496+320+496+336+0%0Ad+560+320+592+320+1+0.805904783%0Ad+528+320+560+320+1+0.805904783%0Aw+496+320+496+288+0%0Aw+560+320+560+288+0%0Aw+496+288+496+256+0%0Aw+624+288+624+320+0%0Aw+624+320+688+320+0%0Aw+496+256+496+224+0%0AT+560+224+624+288+0+4.0+1.0+0.11287106932821246+-0.11311384566372357+0.999%0Aw+624+224+672+224+0%0Aw+560+224+496+224+0%0Ao+155+64+0+35+10.0+0.2+0+-1%0Ao+153+64+0+291+1.25+0.2+1+-1%0Ao+5+64+1+35+160.0+9.765625E-5+2+-1%0Ao+115+64+0+35+0.0048828125+0.0015625+3+-1%0Ao+118+64+0+35+0.0048828125+0.0015625+4+-1%0A)
Simulation ends up faililng, not sure why. this is sort of a lock step latch like the hydraulic system. the first cap on near the signal generator is in a bridge rectifier; it collects about 6V. (signal is 15). The next stage after the mazilli driver ....

this should work; except then the next stage is based at -X voltage to X voltage, so no part of that can be grounded.....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 15, 2013, 12:21:24 AM

hi everyone :(

i'ved been busy this couple of days and so sad for my fellow country men and some of my relatives are there. :( :( :( :'( :'( :'( :'(

i'm begging for help, not for me but for our brothers in visayas, if you want you can send your donation in the Philippines Channel 7 GMA kapuso.

They really need some help up to now please. :(

otits :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 15, 2013, 02:11:54 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 15, 2013, 12:21:24 AM
hi everyone :(

i'ved been busy this couple of days and so sad for my fellow country men and some of my relatives are there. :( :( :( :'( :'( :'( :'(

i'm begging for help, not for me but for our brothers in visayas, if you want you can send your donation in the Philippines Channel 7 GMA kapuso.

They really need some help up to now please. :(
Besides prayers we are starting our cash donations here in macau to send thru proper channels
It will take a year for electricity restoration there is exodus to other islands
Unlike Cathri na and Japan tsunami the local government were wipe out as well after 6 days without food and water the US navy UK France Japan Australia and others finally rolled out the food and medicine
Otits if u really want to help a little further your Fe will have a great impact just tell me i will course you to proper channel
Thanks to all We need help in every way we can

Totoalas

otits :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 15, 2013, 03:09:11 AM

http://www.n-tv.de/ticker/Irland-und-Spanien-koennen-Euro-Rettungsschirm-verlassen-article11731141.html
I saw by TV somebody working on the beach after a"Prestige"-disaster: collecting oil-dirty birds and cleaning the sand and beach-rocks.
"Now here and yet" he could show -425years after a special marriage-that not only Gaellacia
did need help !
It is the Phillip/Felipe-relationship.And about becoming from "infante" later King and idol-ism.
Sincerely
OCL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TheCell on November 15, 2013, 03:58:38 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on November 13, 2013, 03:40:07 AM
A good morning,
here a link from overunity.de member wanninger which gives probably some answers about "free energy"-machines:
http://www.veproject1.org/ (http://www.veproject1.org/)

With no ,sometimes to accept cause neo-ak behaviour ,IAEO-confiscation risk and denominated: workable

Sincerely
CL

Hello lancaIV,
would you think that the principle introduced here works?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWRyYYX7JxE
The explanation at the end of the films seems logical to me.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 15, 2013, 04:19:49 AM

Quote from: TheCell on November 15, 2013, 03:58:38 AM
Hello lancaIV,
would you think that the principle introduced here works?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWRyYYX7JxE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWRyYYX7JxE)
The explanation at the end of the films seems logical to me.

It does not run long enough for me. A lot of these devices use the initial start up energy and this slowly dissipates.
I would have liked to see it run for 10 minutes or more.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 15, 2013, 05:33:25 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 15, 2013, 04:19:49 AM

It does not run long enough for me. A lot of these devices use the initial start up energy and this slowly dissipates.
I would have liked to see it run for 10 minutes or more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy)
!.Takt 100% -99%- 98% to 0%
2.Takt 100%- 0%
3.Takt 100%- 0%
4.Takt 100%- 0%
...........
endless story or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf1WT8VEZxk

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 15, 2013, 05:39:08 AM

Quote from: TheCell on November 15, 2013, 03:58:38 AM
Hello lancaIV,
would you think that the principle introduced here works?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWRyYYX7JxE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWRyYYX7JxE)
The explanation at the end of the films seems logical to me.

Hello TheCell,
I am here not the only member and I please the other to give a logical comment to your questions or correspond directly with this canadian NGO or let a canadian overunity.com-member doing this for you !
Try to work together !
Bye-bye
OCL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 15, 2013, 06:38:14 AM

Here- for arithmetians:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&PN=de19522794&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&PN=de19522794&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC)
go to description:
Ausführung

Dreht eine Autofelge mit einem Durchmesser von 30 cm einmal in der Minute, so ist ein Weg von 0,942 m/min zurückgelegt. Dreht eine Lichtmaschine mit einem Antriebsraddurchmesser von 6 cm einmal in der Minute, so ist ein Weg von 0,1884 m/min zurückgelegt. Das entspricht dem Verhaltnis 5 : 1. Damit die Lichtmaschine ihre Nenngeschwindigkeit erhalt, muss sie 2000 mal in der Minute drehen, - die Felge also 400 mal. 400 Umdrehungen/min mal 0,942 m = 376,8 m/min oder 6,28 m/s, umgerechnet also 22,6 km/h.Schon bei 400 Umdrehungen der Felge, also bei 22,6 km/h ist das Fahrzeug selbstversorgend mit elektrischer Energie, ein "Quasi" Perpetuum Mobile, welches nahezu unbegrenzte Entfernungen bewältigt, ohne Zuhilfenahme anderer Mittel als die Umdrehung der eigenen Felgen, denn schon die aus mechanischer Übersetzungsdrehung erzielte elektrische Energie ist grösser als der elektrische Verbrauch zum Beibehalten der Bewegung, was nun erläutert wird: Bei einer Umdrehungszahl der Lichtmaschine von 2000 Up/m ist die normale Leistung 120 V/100 A, entsprechend 12000 W. Der El-Motor hat eine Leistungsaufnahme von 6000 bis 8000 W (Schon deshalb wäre ab 22,6 km/h Batteriekraft unnötig). Doch die Batterien haben mit 10 Stk à 12V/90 A eine Leistung von 10800 W, die durch die Erfindung stets zur Verfügung steht, und wir haben einen Leistungsüberschuss von 2800 bis 6000 W bei nur 2000 Umdrehungen. Die verwendeten Zahlen lassen sich verhältnismässig nach oben und unten variieren, da es sich bei obigem Beispiel um ein Fahrzeug von etwa 1000 kg handelt.

language transduced:

Execution

Turns a car rim with a diameter of 30 cm once a minute, as a way of 0,942 m / min is completed. Turns a light machine with a traction wheel diameter of 6 cm once a minute, as a way of 0.1884 m / min is completed. This corresponds to the ratio 5: 1 In order for the alternator its rated speed sustaining, they must rotate 2000 times per minute, - the rim so 400 times. 400 rev / min 0.942 times m = 376.8 m / min or 6.28 m / s, which is the equivalent of 22.6 km / h.Schon at 400 revolutions of the wheel, so at 22.6 km / h the vehicle self-sufficient with electrical energy, a "quasi" Perpetuum Mobile, which handles virtually unlimited distances without the aid of other means than the revolution of their own wheel, because even the achieved from a mechanical translation rotation electrical energy is greater than the electrical consumption for maintaining the motion, now what explains: At a rotational speed of the alternator from 2000 up / m normal power 120 V/100 A, corresponding to 12000 W. El The engine has a power consumption would be 6000-8000 W (reason alone, from 22.6 km / h battery power unnecessarily). However, the batteries have 10 pieces à with 12V/90 A is a power of 10800 W, which always stands by the invention, and we have an excess of power 2800-6000 watts at only 2000 rpm. The numbers used can be relatively varied up and down as it is a vehicle of about 1000 kg with the above example....

do the maths - by your own trust and faith - with paper and pencil !
maths: a.algebraical: ciffre/Ziffern/Code~ abstract b.geometrical: body-formation ~ concrete

Pythagoras : Der Kreis ist heilig ~ perfect ~catholic ~ O
from romantic(Novalis)-catholic view
Bye
OCL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 15, 2013, 06:18:23 PM

@totoalas
Di ko naman sana gustong ipagkait itong FE ko kaya lang kailangan ko rin ng tulong sa ngayong panahon, kase di gaanong stable tong kita ko at may 8month year old pa akong baby.

sa ngayon alam kong may malaking impact tong FE ko di lang dito kundi sa buong mundo pag malalaman nila to.

sa madaling salita i need help also, at kung may bibili lang ng minsanan ng malakihan, e bibigay ko nang buong buo tong technology na to.
kaya lang dun nagkakaroon ng problema e, sa pagtitiwala sa isat isa.

at sana maunawaan mo rin pre. at sana wag mo naman akong isubo sa mga tao, sorry but that is what i feel, medjo sensitibo ako pasensya kana pre. :)

tama yung idea mo kaya lang hindi lang kase basta ganun yun e. ;) ok.

nagsalita ako sa wika naten dahil ayaw ko ring isubo kita o ipahiya man kita dahil kalahi kita ok.

immediate food, shelter, medicine ang kailangan ng ating mga kababayan, ang FE ay konting karagdagan lang kung titingnan and eventually maibabalik naman ang old system. dahil dipa naten alam ang susunod na magiging epekto kung bibigay kona yung secreto sa buong mundo kaya di lang bastabasta ganun yon sorry. at alam kong may matinding dahilan din si Tesla kung bakit dirin niya deretsahang binigay yon. Every action there is an equal reaction. malake ang impact ng FE sa buong mundo marame ang tatamaan pero naniniwala ako na magkakaroon ng impact pabalik sa mga tao yon. ok? :( sana maintindihan mo.

syanga pala tagumpay ako sa huli kong experiment. at kongrats pala sayo at nagtagumpay ka sa paligsahan. ;)
actually yung discovery mo ay maganda na rin at pwede ring makatulong yun sa mga nasalanta ng bagyo. ::) ;D ;D ;D [size=78%] [/size]

otits :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: PARAV on November 15, 2013, 08:34:20 PM

Tito
You actually have the audacity and or the gall to ask the rest of the free energy community to help your fellow country men and women in the Phillipines ???-
Well-- my country - Canada - -USA - Europe and a host of other countries are all helping already and they are finally doing a fairly good job to the tune of over 300 million dollars.
While,-You,, my friend,, is sitting in the comfortable confines of Macau with some sort of a, supposed free energy device which you have been dangling carrots in front of me and all the experimenters here on this forum for the past 5 years.
Meanwhile your fellow country men have been suffering in the Phillipines for the past 150 years????
If you are a sincere Christian,, send your free energy info to your own people so they can benefit them and all man kind in the future.
If you don't see the reality here and do something here , then I am absolutely sure that you are nothing but an ego maniac that wants nothing but attention and that this supposed free energy device is a figment of your egotistical imagination which' really doesn't work and or is worth nothing to any one except for your ego.
I will end my rant with---God bless the people of the Phillipines.
Paul.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 15, 2013, 09:38:41 PM

Quote from: PARAV on November 15, 2013, 08:34:20 PM
Tito
You actually have the audacity and or the gall to ask the rest of the free energy community to help your fellow country men and women in the Phillipines ??? -
Well-- my country - Canada - -USA - Europe and a host of other countries are all helping already and they are finally doing a fairly good job to the tune of over 300 million dollars.
While,-You,, my friend,, is sitting in the comfortable confines of Macau with some sort of a, supposed free energy device which you have been dangling carrots in front of me and all the experimenters here on this forum for the past 5 years.
Meanwhile your fellow country men have been suffering in the Phillipines for the past 150 years? ???
If you are a sincere Christian,, send your free energy info to your own people so they can benefit them and all man kind in the future.
If you don't see the reality here and do something here , then I am absolutely sure that you are nothing but an ego maniac that wants nothing but attention and that this supposed free energy device is a figment of your egotistical imagination which' really doesn't work and or is worth nothing to any one except for your ego.
I will end my rant with---God bless the people of the Phillipines.
Paul.

>:( :o who said to you that i'm sitting in the comfortable confines of macau? ??? huh my friend?!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(

sincerity of being a Christian is not just by giving of something, but also by giving an important info. can be said that its really a sincere christian right?

You know what? you are acting as not a son of a sincere christian, i can smell it. :P

Sorry but the way you think is not the way i think ok? :(

well, though, still i want to thank your country for help, i appreciate that. ;) [size=78%] [/size]

by the way, i don't need an attention, i am here to give some little hint of help to everybody, and to learn also, see i'm learning from you. :D

@To everyone : if you don't have something to say good, DON'T POST HERE OKAY.
WE ARE JUST NEEDING AN IMMEDIATE HELP.
IF YOU WILL GIVE HELP THEN THANK YOU, IF NOT THEN JUST GIVE PRAYERS AND THAT'S ENOUGH! DON'T MAKE INSULT, GOT THAT? :) [size=78%] [/size]

You know what PARAV? a fish is always being catch by his mouth.
I am 101% sure that what you have said is what you are. :P ouch!!! sorry but you said it ;) [size=78%] [/size]

I guess i think your just a failure to what you are doing isn't it? :)

OTITS

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 15, 2013, 09:59:53 PM

pareng OTITS :)
respeto lang ang hinangaan ko sa yo ;D :) ;)

Tama ka kung si Tesla nga secret p rin hanggang ngaun ehhh
Yung sa akin d pa perfect kailangan ko p sa battery padaanin pero madali na lang yun next Year ko pa ilalabas to sa ngaun
trying to reach out to others also in this catastrophe

You open up the avenue and I am one of the lucky ones that follow ur endless links hints and jokes thank you my friend

Back to the disaster
WE NEED LOVE NOT HATE WE NEED HELP NOT ALMS WE ARE THE WORLD BY MICHAEL JACSON

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 16, 2013, 03:26:21 AM

I'm saying here : GOOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BE GOOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Am I on topic ? :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 16, 2013, 04:53:27 AM

Energy amplification in topic:
www.wiwo.de 16.11.2013 translated
Philippines: More environmental protection would have alleviated typhoon disaster

Copyright: Flickr, Mansunides
By Wolfgang Kempkens in environment - 15/11/2013 at 08:48 w 1 comment

M Recommend this article by e-mail.

In the Philippines, 70 percent of mangrove forests have been destroyed in recent decades. They had to make room for, among other fish and shrimp farms. The animals then landed in Europe on the table. The forests of trees and shrubs, where salt can not touch, protect the underlying land from floods and typhoons, and they offered to marine animals and birds shelter. Haiyan, probably the strongest typhoon in the modern era, the vulnerability of unprotected coastline has now shown.

The Philippines consists of more than 7000 islands. The coastline is 36,000 kilometers long and largely unprotected. Already in 2009 had devastated huge areas of flooding.

Rising average temperatures and sea level rise since then provide for an increase in extreme weather conditions. Therefore, the authorities began a reforestation program. Goal is the "living dams" as the mangrove forests are also called restore.

On the island of Negros, for example, the reforestation has already begun. Negros is the third largest island of the Philippines and is located southwest of the devastated area around the city of Tacloban. But it will take decades for the newly created coastal forests offer protection again - if it ever happens in a big way. Because the lobby of the fish farmers is large. Thrice a year they can, for example shrimp harvest and sell at a high profit. Reportedly, 30 percent of global consumption derived from such farms.

Mangroves (Copyright: Boricuaeddie)

Also in numerous other countries in Southeast Asia such as Thailand, Vietnam, India and Sri Lanka are ruthlessly destroyed mangrove forests have been. But even there thinking about it, mainly because natural disasters always cause major damage. In Sri Lanka, about to be set to 2014 around 130,000 mangrove plants.
Mangroves are a natural protective barrier

The initiative has calculated Yuu'n taken Mee , a company that operates fish farms, but not specifically in mangrove areas.

But the restoration takes time. Seedlings collected in intact mangrove areas and raised in nurseries. After three to six months, they are so big that workers can use them to their destinations.

Scientists are working on for years with the natural protective barrier of mangrove forest. A study by Indian researchers calculated 2005 impact even on the cent. Villages that were delivered in a whirlwind defenseless had to lament losses of 153.74 U.S. dollars per household. That's a lot of money in a region where a large number of people living below the poverty line of one U.S. dollar per day. Those residents who live in the shelter of a mangrove forest, it met with only average damage of 33.30 U.S. dollars.

The typhoon Hayin on an image of the U.S. space agency Nasa (Copyright: NASA)

The surviving mangrove forests on the Philippine island of Samal are now under protection. Ulrich Kronberg of "Save the Rainforest" who lives there, has launched an initiative to replant more coastal areas. now, more than 200,000 seedlings have been inserted, many of students who move from school to college., the school authority has ordered that each of them is five mangrove trees.

Even in South India there was in 2004 a devastating tsunami, triggered by an earthquake in Sumatra. The Hamburg club Marine Deep Wave, together with local environmentalists, the project Mangreen ( Ecological Mangrove Restoration in India called) to life to restore the mangrove forests.
Mangroves also help the climate

So far, the restoration projects in the Asian region are only isolated cases. Still disappear much more mangrove forests are created as new. Doing so, they not only serve to protect the public and the protection of the coasts from erosion.

The 70 salt-resistant plant species, including trees up to 30 meters high, tie around 1.5 tonnes of carbon per hectare per year. In the sediments retained by the roots save another 700 tons, so the Hamburg marine biologist and Deep Wave Onno United boss. They are also important spawning areas for fish.

In Vietnam, mangrove forests are reforested with German help, meanwhile. The client is the German Federal Ministry for Economic Cooperation and Development. The Society for International Cooperation is leading the project in Soc Trang province . To protect the freshly planted plants, breakwaters were built of bamboo there first, which further prevent sand and soil are washed into the sea.

Thousands of hectares of coastal area be rehabilitated. According to a study by Yoshihiro Mazda from the Institute of Marine Science and Technology Tokai University, Japan, reduced a newly created 1500-meter wide mangrove forest, which is five years old, the height of a one-meter wave to just five centimeters.

An intact mangrove forest ecosystem would therefore possibly prevent worse in the Philippines. With thousands dead and tens of thousands of people without shelter, that's a sad realization.

Sincerely
OCL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 16, 2013, 05:06:14 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on November 16, 2013, 04:53:27 AM
Energy amplification in topic:
www.wiwo.de 16.11.2013 translated
Philippines: More environmental protection would have alleviated typhoon disaster

Copyright: Flickr, Mansunides
By Wolfgang Kempkens in environment - 15/11/2013 at 08:48 w 1 comment

M Recommend this article by e-mail.

In the Philippines, 70 percent of mangrove forests have been destroyed in recent decades. They had to make room for, among other fish and shrimp farms. The animals then landed in Europe on the table. The forests of trees and shrubs, where salt can not touch, protect the underlying land from floods and typhoons, and they offered to marine animals and birds shelter. Haiyan, probably the strongest typhoon in the modern era, the vulnerability of unprotected coastline has now shown.

The Philippines consists of more than 7000 islands. The coastline is 36,000 kilometers long and largely unprotected. Already in 2009 had devastated huge areas of flooding.

Rising average temperatures and sea level rise since then provide for an increase in extreme weather conditions. Therefore, the authorities began a reforestation program. Goal is the "living dams" as the mangrove forests are also called restore.

On the island of Negros, for example, the reforestation has already begun. Negros is the third largest island of the Philippines and is located southwest of the devastated area around the city of Tacloban. But it will take decades for the newly created coastal forests offer protection again - if it ever happens in a big way. Because the lobby of the fish farmers is large. Thrice a year they can, for example shrimp harvest and sell at a high profit. Reportedly, 30 percent of global consumption derived from such farms.

Mangroves (Copyright: Boricuaeddie)

Also in numerous other countries in Southeast Asia such as Thailand, Vietnam, India and Sri Lanka are ruthlessly destroyed mangrove forests have been. But even there thinking about it, mainly because natural disasters always cause major damage. In Sri Lanka, about to be set to 2014 around 130,000 mangrove plants.
Mangroves are a natural protective barrier

The initiative has calculated Yuu'n taken Mee , a company that operates fish farms, but not specifically in mangrove areas.

But the restoration takes time. Seedlings collected in intact mangrove areas and raised in nurseries. After three to six months, they are so big that workers can use them to their destinations.

Scientists are working on for years with the natural protective barrier of mangrove forest. A study by Indian researchers calculated 2005 impact even on the cent. Villages that were delivered in a whirlwind defenseless had to lament losses of 153.74 U.S. dollars per household. That's a lot of money in a region where a large number of people living below the poverty line of one U.S. dollar per day. Those residents who live in the shelter of a mangrove forest, it met with only average damage of 33.30 U.S. dollars.

The typhoon Hayin on an image of the U.S. space agency Nasa (Copyright: NASA)

The surviving mangrove forests on the Philippine island of Samal are now under protection. Ulrich Kronberg of "Save the Rainforest" who lives there, has launched an initiative to replant more coastal areas. now, more than 200,000 seedlings have been inserted, many of students who move from school to college., the school authority has ordered that each of them is five mangrove trees.

Even in South India there was in 2004 a devastating tsunami, triggered by an earthquake in Sumatra. The Hamburg club Marine Deep Wave, together with local environmentalists, the project Mangreen ( Ecological Mangrove Restoration in India called) to life to restore the mangrove forests.
Mangroves also help the climate

So far, the restoration projects in the Asian region are only isolated cases. Still disappear much more mangrove forests are created as new. Doing so, they not only serve to protect the public and the protection of the coasts from erosion.

The 70 salt-resistant plant species, including trees up to 30 meters high, tie around 1.5 tonnes of carbon per hectare per year. In the sediments retained by the roots save another 700 tons, so the Hamburg marine biologist and Deep Wave Onno United boss. They are also important spawning areas for fish.

In Vietnam, mangrove forests are reforested with German help, meanwhile. The client is the German Federal Ministry for Economic Cooperation and Development. The Society for International Cooperation is leading the project in Soc Trang province . To protect the freshly planted plants, breakwaters were built of bamboo there first, which further prevent sand and soil are washed into the sea.

Thousands of hectares of coastal area be rehabilitated. According to a study by Yoshihiro Mazda from the Institute of Marine Science and Technology Tokai University, Japan, reduced a newly created 1500-meter wide mangrove forest, which is five years old, the height of a one-meter wave to just five centimeters.

An intact mangrove forest ecosystem would therefore possibly prevent worse in the Philippines. With thousands dead and tens of thousands of people without shelter, that's a sad realization.

Sincerely
OCL

Thanks for the info
On the other hand all the beaches of luzon had been mined by the Chinese of magnetite for 4 years including 50 meters inland thanks to them rice paddies cannot grow rice anymore and no drinking water due to saltwater

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 16, 2013, 05:53:08 AM

Chinese mining company and phillipin governance [(com(m)ission receiving ]restoration responsibility:
saltwater to drink-and plants potable water l
If not the phillipin Ernesto Labuntog solution here an other :

http://goldbrainet.com/invention.php (http://goldbrainet.com/invention.php)It shall be writtten - I do not know where that somebody shall said: fiat lux !(when ?)

I am asking you ,totoalas : Luz on ?
Sincerely
OCL
p.s.: and about the Fukushima risk : decontamination ! how resolve ?
Risk: Tchernobyl : young ukrainian girls/boys with radio-active influenced genetic disorder

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 16, 2013, 06:49:34 PM

Tito!! ;D

Glad your alright bud. ;) Was worried about ya. :'(

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gotoluc on November 16, 2013, 09:12:33 PM

Hi everyone,

I invite you to look at a topic I've started yesterday on freely sharing my test results on the topic of Reactive Power.

http://www.overunity.com/14013/reactive-generator-research-for-everyone-to-share/msg377107/#msg377107 (http://www.overunity.com/14013/reactive-generator-research-for-everyone-to-share/msg377107/#msg377107)

Luc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 17, 2013, 07:35:35 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 16, 2013, 06:49:34 PM
Tito!! ;D

Glad your alright bud. ;) Was worried about ya. :'(

Mags

Thanks bud. :) ;)

sounds like taste bud. :P ;D ;)

Hi everyone:

let say for example I collected a stainless steel, alluminum, tin, copper, zinc then by the use of a grinder, i pulvorice them all mix them together.

then i have two option to combine them ist by epoxy, second i can super heat them using acetylene and oxygen in a mold

now the resulted material should be producing a little heat cause they are different metal joint together, then before i use it i introduce 2kv in it.

then i include it in a circuit capable of producing high voltage. what do you think is the result? ::)

Good News: Tom bearden got it in 30 years
Bad News: because of his writings, all of it becomes a big hint for me and i got it in 5 years. ;D
Thanks to Tom bearden for his writings. :) ;)

The secret is cha and discha don't kill the dimple ;D
its really just actually a matter of common chachacha. ;D ;D ;D

By this method you can make all the output in the inverter as free. 8)

That's it ;)

Merry Christmas everyone and thanks to all help in the Philippines

Noicarotit ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 17, 2013, 09:33:14 AM

the other sentence (in fact the same) is : keep it stupid simple cha or kiss-cha ;D ;D ;D
and when you kiss it cha all the time then you cha cha cha :-* ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 17, 2013, 09:43:08 AM

A little too much "Moulin Rouge" ? ??? "One,two cha-...." Dance-steps trials ? Jaques Offenbachs bat bitten ? :P
Have a nice primeira-feira /Dom-in-go/ Sunday
OCL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 17, 2013, 11:15:17 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 17, 2013, 07:35:35 AM

Thanks bud. :) ;)

sounds like taste bud. :P ;D ;)

Hi everyone:

let say for example I collected a stainless steel, alluminum, tin, copper, zinc then by the use of a grinder, i pulvorice them all mix them together.

then i have two option to combine them ist by epoxy, second i can super heat them using acetylene and oxygen in a mold

now the resulted material should be producing a little heat cause they are different metal joint together, then before i use it i introduce 2kv in it.

then i include it in a circuit capable of producing high voltage. what do you think is the result? ::)

Good News: Tom bearden got it in 30 years
Bad News: because of his writings, all of it becomes a big hint for me and i got it in 5 years. ;D
Thanks to Tom bearden for his writings. :) ;)

The secret is cha and discha don't kill the dimple ;D
its really just actually a matter of common chachacha. ;D ;D ;D

By this method you can make all the output in the inverter as free. 8)

That's it ;)

Merry Christmas everyone and thanks to all help in the Philippines

Noicarotit ;D ;D ;D

Hey teets

I remember you talking about degenerated conductor. So this is something we have to actually make like you described above, or is it already available? ??? ;D Also, is it just a solid block, or actually wire?

http://www.alloywire.com/small_quantities.html

The link says Order quantities from a few feet or metres ;)
Wire manufactured to your specification :o ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 17, 2013, 11:17:48 AM

Also http://www.alloywire.com/alloy-product-range.html :o ;D ;)

Check out the whole site

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 17, 2013, 11:56:00 AM

There's another method where you pulse the core.
The Searle effect is produced by pulsing 2 different voltages to create an assymetrical magnet.
We are looking at an assymetrical core in this case. It's a similar principle.
Or try it as a negative resistor in a pulsed high voltage set up.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 17, 2013, 12:01:28 PM

I also remember that somewhere people are experimenting with mixing magnetite with various materials to create an assymetrical core.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 19, 2013, 04:50:50 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 17, 2013, 11:15:17 AM
Hey teets

I remember you talking about degenerated conductor. So this is something we have to actually make like you described above, or is it already available? ??? ;D Also, is it just a solid block, or actually wire?

http://www.alloywire.com/small_quantities.html (http://www.alloywire.com/small_quantities.html)

The link says Order quantities from a few feet or metres ;)
Wire manufactured to your specification :o ;D

Mags

solid block or wire is not a big deal either of the two. its just a cheap current source actually. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 20, 2013, 11:12:58 PM

:o
are these real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTowOHDeB5Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTowOHDeB5Y)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljKX9Om7Z4s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljKX9Om7Z4s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU5JvO1opkk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU5JvO1opkk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBoAvTWO6p4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBoAvTWO6p4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ2H2BHTjuo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjy9jLCzAos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHvGL2oYODU

Wow so simple http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noMNTtcKD84
nice shot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddoVOPpK1Jw
amazing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv9JrnnZkLA

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 20, 2013, 11:38:01 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 20, 2013, 11:12:58 PM
:o
are these real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTowOHDeB5Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTowOHDeB5Y)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljKX9Om7Z4s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljKX9Om7Z4s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU5JvO1opkk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU5JvO1opkk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBoAvTWO6p4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBoAvTWO6p4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ2H2BHTjuo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ2H2BHTjuo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjy9jLCzAos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjy9jLCzAos)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHvGL2oYODU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHvGL2oYODU)

;D ;D ;D

THey could be?
I'll say maybe there is a something in the process of building that leaves the fields in a certain connection.

Being a hard drive magnet, it is a multi-pole magnet, There are two n's and a S inbetween (depending on the side you're on, so the head can move differentially across the whole range..... well they have at least one twist, so the north is on the top on one side and a south on top no the other end...

Oh; LED loop. would be nice where he sourced the bulb. I saw that rumor that LEDs were being made that were over 1x their input... so could be looped.

I suspect they do have one other thing in common; 50Hz power. Because tesla hated edison.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on November 23, 2013, 04:46:09 PM

So who has melted the metals? :) I say this because u can not get ou from an ordinary capacitor and coil setup. I tried different modifications on a transformer and discharged the capacitor, there was no ou. And Tom Bearden said, for this to work, u must not use an ordinary capacitor.
In addition, the smaller the capacitor, the smaller the power it is going to put out, if there is no external energy put into the capacitor either in earthing or antenna, or even resonance, the capacitor can not put out more energy when charged by a circuit. Even a bifilar coil wound as a capacitor will not put out more energy. Tito said no earthing. The question lies in the capacitor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on November 24, 2013, 05:33:36 AM

well, I was able to put up something, not exactly Tito's setup, but it still amplifies energy, and still simple enough though :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 24, 2013, 01:32:19 PM

Leely

Answer is always hidden in question...ask why you got not ou from capacitor + coil setup. Then tell us ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on November 24, 2013, 03:58:09 PM

Quote from: forest on November 24, 2013, 01:32:19 PM
Leely

Answer is always hidden in question...ask why you got not ou from capacitor + coil setup. Then tell us ;D

Well, I used a spark gap as a discharge medium, I don't know why I didn't get ou from that setup, can u tell me why? :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 24, 2013, 04:16:45 PM

Quote from: Leely on November 24, 2013, 03:58:09 PM
Well, I used a spark gap as a discharge medium, I don't know why I didn't get ou from that setup, can u tell me why? :)

If you see the spark it's an energy loser, Tesla designed his systems to avoid it.
Tesla's early methods used a spark gap, then he went onto a commutator.
I use a commutator, saves on the mosfets.lol
You can build one out of a cheap fan.
Every contact gives you mhz oscillations.
You can also build a tesla switch from a car coil, like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYzTE9MPhzY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYzTE9MPhzY)
Pity he's not dumping the output into a cap.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on November 24, 2013, 04:37:32 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 24, 2013, 04:16:45 PM
If you see the spark it's an energy loser, Tesla designed his systems to avoid it.
Tesla's early methods used a spark gap, then he went onto a commutator.
I use a commutator, saves on the mosfets.lol
You can build one out of a cheap fan.
Every contact gives you mhz oscillations.
You can also build a tesla switch from a car coil, like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYzTE9MPhzY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYzTE9MPhzY)
Pity he's not dumping the output into a cap.

Oh, that is a very good advice, I will really take note of that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 25, 2013, 11:24:48 AM

good point a.king21 :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 25, 2013, 11:26:34 AM

a little tip if Tito woudn't mind ::) .... if you got capacitor charged to 15V and connect to the car battery there is very little flow of current, and if you have a diode there is no flow and if you got that capacitor charged even more and even if load is connected then you got ou....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 25, 2013, 11:40:25 PM

what can i say, you got one technique. >:(

Three more important technique to go. ;D

About spark gap, switching and direction. if you got that then Merry Christmas. :)

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 25, 2013, 11:44:12 PM

Quote from: Leely on November 24, 2013, 04:37:32 PM
Oh, that is a very good advice, I will really take note of that.

hey buddy be careful, that thing is dangerous to play with. ;) :) [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 26, 2013, 01:19:59 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 25, 2013, 11:40:25 PM
what can i say, you got one technique. >:(

Three more important technique to go. ;D
JUST LIKE THE CROSS YOU MENTIONED North E ast W est ALL GOING TO SOUTH PAW
2 In one primary then to secondary forget the spark as higher v in cap will keep it ringing and knocking BOooooom OU

About spark gap, switching and direction. if you got that then Merry Christmas. :)

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 26, 2013, 01:48:22 AM

Edison Richardson effect Jump to: navigation, searchThermionic emission (including thermionic effect , Edison effect or Richardson - effect) is the emission of electrons from a heated hot cathode (typically in vacuo ) . The minimum temperatures are above 900 K and strongly depend on the material of the surface .Contents [hide ]1 General2 History3 Richardson equation4 Applications5 Adverse effects of thermionic emission6 Related Effects7 Notes and references8 External linksGeneral [ Edit] The Edison Richardson effect of an electron "tube"The electrons to overcome the work function of the metal or the characteristic of the oxide film due to their thermal energy. If the free electrons are not sucked by an electric field , they form the hot cathode in the vacuum of a space charge cloud and invite any nearby electrodes against the " cathode" negative on . This effect can be used for the direct conversion of thermal energy into electrical energy . However, the efficiency of this thermionic generator is low.For technical applications , the aim is to maintain the required temperature of the hot cathode as low as possible , by using materials with low work . This led to the development of the oxide cathode .History [edit ]The effect was first described in 1873 by Frederick Guthrie. He discovered that a positively charged electroscope is discharged when they brought a grounded , glowing piece of metal in the vicinity. [1 ] In the case of negatively charged electroscope nothing happens , from which it followed that glowing metal can only leave negative charge. Thomas Edison has rediscovered this phenomenon in 1880 in experiments with incandescent and reported 1883 based thereon application for a patent . [2 ] Julius Elster and Hans Friedrich Geitel examined 1882-1889 systematically from a hot wire charge output . [3 ] the saturation current density was recorded in 1901 by Owen Willans Richardson constructed in the Richardson equation , for which he was awarded the 1928 Nobel Prize for physics. [3 ]Richardson equation [ Edit]Richardson 's equation describes the current density J of the emerging of a metal at high temperature electrons. It readsHere, T is the absolute temperature , the release We work function for electrons , kB is the Boltzmann constant and A is the Richardson constant .The release work function for electrons is generally about 1 to 6 eV. The Richardson constant depends mainly on the used metal and the surface condition and is in short supply. For metal oxides, it is much lower .After Saul Dushman (1883-1954) , the Richardson constant can be estimated as follows [ 4]:In this case, m and e are the mass of the electron or elementary charge , and h and kB is Boltzmann's constant , respectively Planck . The equationis also referred to as the Richardson - Dushman equation. [5]A correction term for the work function arises at very high field strength by the Schottky effect . In this area it is called Schottky emission.Applications [ Edit]The thermionic emission is used to generate free electrons in the electron tubes. This in a high-vacuum vessel between the directly or indirectly heated thermionic cathode and anode flows (electron ) current which can be controlled , if necessary, by intervening grid . Electron tubes allow the amplification of electric signals in the audio frequency range and in the high frequency range, in transmitters and receivers. With electron tubes , it was possible not only to transmit Morse code , but also language , music and pictures .The cathode ray tube ( cathode ray tube ) consists of an electron source with subsequent deflection . applications:to the electron beam melting and electron beam and electron beam welding, also in the scanning electron microscope.with fluorescent screen as a picture tube in old televisions and oscilloscopes.Fluorescent hot cathode also use thermionic emission . Many other gas discharge lamps and carbon arc lamps , the electrodes by the discharge of heat is also applicable that thermionic emission matters. Not the case, however, this is the case of cold -cathode tubes , fluorescent tubes , neon lamps and flash tubes .Thermionic emission is still used in thyratrons , magnetrons , klystrons , traveling wave tubes and vacuum fluorescent displays . Again, it is used to generate free electrons.By means of thermionic emission , the work function can be determined. By the electric field , which is required to remove the electrons from the cathode , but this is influenced , so that it is necessary to extrapolate the measured current on the field strength , E = 0 .Adverse effects of thermionic emission [ Edit]Thermionic emission is in control grids of electron tubes ( ie when the grid is glowing due to heating ), however undesirable, here it leads to the so-called grid emission and hindering grid current , which can shift the operating point. Power tubes usually receive about cooling fins ( radiation cooled) at the ends of the grid carrier rods , the latter are for the good thermal conductivity of copper most .In the thermionic emission switches between the switch contacts to the undesirable switching arc , which must be deleted to avoid damage by appropriate technical means leads .Related effects [ Edit]Outside photo effectfield emissionReferences [edit ]High jumping ↑ Felix Auerbach : A History of modern physics. J. Springer , Berlin , 1923. S. 263High jumping ↑ Patent 307301↑ jump up after : from Owen W. Richardson : Thermionic phenomena and the laws Which govern them . 12 December 1929 (Nobel Prize lecture , PDF) .High jumping ↑ Saul Dushman : Electron Emission from Metals as a Function of Temperature. In : Phys. Rev. . 21, No. 6, 1923 , pp. 623-636 , doi: 10.1103/PhysRev.21.623 .High jumping ↑ Neil W. Ashcroft, N. David Mermin : Solid State Physics. Saunders College Publishing, New York 1976 , IS

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 26, 2013, 02:02:15 AM

to finally:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamic_potential (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamic_potential)

GIBBS ENERGY

my knowledge also based by the best e(x)ternal teacher Isaak Asimov and his ouvre "Asimovs New Guide to Science ",
recommendable !

And a lesson for success: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSGl3d4KOMk

Sincerely
OCL

p.s.: on 21.11.2013 I received the notice that the Enerciencia Lda. was been closed by estate administral act (5 years law and order)
in January,2012. It has been a nice birthday present.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 26, 2013, 03:10:01 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 25, 2013, 11:40:25 PM
what can i say, you got one technique. >:(

Three more important technique to go. ;D

About spark gap, switching and direction. if you got that then Merry Christmas. :)

otits ;D

We only need one energy amplification technique. Don't be distracted.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 26, 2013, 12:34:01 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 26, 2013, 03:10:01 AM
We only need one energy amplification technique. Don't be distracted.

@a.king21, I think Teets may be using the word "technique" to refer to components.
The other three components he cites are spark gap, switching and direction.
Components he often talks about are:
- capacitors
- diodes
- SW bifilar coils
- transistor or mosfet (occasionally): e.g., Janost over at EF was using a transistor to function as a spark gap on the Don Smith thread; could also be magnetically quenched, but I kind of doubt it. -
Teets has mentioned "Kick" and occasionally, "push-pull," and while this could be done via mosfet, perhaps better with SWbifi coils and caps. You push on the electrostatic environment with a kick from a capacitor discharge, and the electrostatic environment (or aether) pushes back to compensate so that you can effectively "pull" RE into the system: Push-pull.
- diode: Teets has mentioned diode over and over throughout this thread
-Teets has also mentioned use of a magnet, at least earlier on. YT user Waldeck Vieira seems to show that electrostatic energy can be harvested using a magnet and coils. Could we use this to get our caps charged up enough to "kick" for a push-pull? Can the diodes help us to charge in parallel and discharge in series (or vice-versa)?
GTG - Lunch almost over.
Teets, glad you're okay, man.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 26, 2013, 01:09:26 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on November 26, 2013, 12:34:01 PM
@a.king21, I think Teets may be using the word "technique" to refer to components.
The other three components he cites are spark gap, switching and direction.
Components he often talks about are:
- capacitors
- diodes
- SW bifilar coils
- transistor or mosfet (occasionally): e.g., Janost over at EF was using a transistor to function as a spark gap on the Don Smith thread; could also be magnetically quenched, but I kind of doubt it. -
Teets has mentioned "Kick" and occasionally, "push-pull," and while this could be done via mosfet, perhaps better with SWbifi coils and caps. You push on the electrostatic environment with a kick from a capacitor discharge, and the electrostatic environment (or aether) pushes back to compensate so that you can effectively "pull" RE into the system: Push-pull.
- diode: Teets has mentioned diode over and over throughout this thread
-Teets has also mentioned use of a magnet, at least earlier on. YT user Waldeck Vieira seems to show that electrostatic energy can be harvested using a magnet and coils. Could we use this to get our caps charged up enough to "kick" for a push-pull? Can the diodes help us to charge in parallel and discharge in series (or vice-versa)?
GTG - Lunch almost over.
Teets, glad you're okay, man.

I'm aware. I am going through his posts, from his humble beginnings to his present "gimee 10 million dollars" state.
I've had free energy for a while through the Benitez system so this stuff is completing my education. You won't catch me patronizing Tito.
Just go to the beginning and read his posts. If you've done, and do the experiments, you'll get there.
There's much to understand with Tesla and I am busy re-creating his patents where appropriate.
Benitez tells you how to step up your cap voltages.
A magnet is not necessary, but it amps up your power by simply using it as part of a lead.
I won't be teased by Tito or anyone else.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 26, 2013, 07:07:26 PM

Quoteis the emission of electrons from a heated hot cathode (typically in vacuo ) .

Iv often wondered if we could dope the cathode of a vacuum tube diode with thorium and collect extra energy

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 27, 2013, 12:23:41 PM

Thanks for the reply and encouragement, aking21
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 27, 2013, 12:46:18 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 26, 2013, 01:09:26 PM
I've had free energy for a while through the Benitez system

More information?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on November 27, 2013, 12:51:47 PM

Perhaps we should be looking at this challenge from this perspective.
Given that generating very high voltage with little current is relatively easy, how do we get
from here:

" From the Colorado Spring Notes:
Capacitance = 0.174 mfd
Assume 20,000 volts on the supply transformer, the energy per impulse will be
4*10^8*0.174 / 2*10^6 = 34.8 watts estimated roughly.
Suppose 1600 discharges through the primary per second, the condenser will deliver
34.8*1600 = 55,680 watts or a little over 74 H.P. "

to here:

"Final transformer secondary current output = 240 VAC 50/60 Hz @ 80A +/-"

using modern materials and NO electronics.

Steps:
1. Start with 12-36VDC and answer the following questions.
2. Can you duplicate the beginning conditions of 20Kv, 1600 discharges, and 0.174 mfd condenser? If not, how close can you get?
3. How can you get from step 2 to the level of volts and amps needed for the primary of the final output transformer?
4. How many intermediate steps of what type will it take to produce the volts, amps & frequency required at the final transformer?

Clue: What type of condenser available in Tesla's time can be fully charged and discharged 1600 times per second?

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 27, 2013, 01:21:46 PM

Ha ha Cadman , you take the cake ! ;D That is the missing information. You would tell me now that electrostatically charged Tesla own made capacitors with salt water as one electrode ;)

ehm....yes, sure but remember Tito did it without special made capacitors , right ? ::)

But you got the point ! BRAVO ! it's the ability to have always charged BIG capacitor bank is the key to release kicks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 27, 2013, 02:13:21 PM

Here's an implementation of that pump from a while ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFZYD05I29s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFZYD05I29s)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on November 27, 2013, 02:47:54 PM

QuoteYou would tell me now that electrostatically charged Tesla own made capacitors with salt water as one electrode

No forest, I would suggest that condenser mentioned is Tesla bifilar coil with 0.174 mfd capacity.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 27, 2013, 04:37:53 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on November 27, 2013, 12:46:18 PM

More information?

Sir, it's not my job to do an instructable. Carlos Benitez had this stuff sussed 100 years ago. I studied just one patent for 2 weeks. That's the level of intense study required.
I recommend his 4 battery system which uses stochastic mixing.
1 dc voltage with
2 radiant energy superimposed give
3 a beat frequency
COP2 less losses within the system.

Colorado spring notes: The addition of a free coil at the end of the secondary recreates Tesla's earthquake experiment, allowing RESONANT RISE.
There's other info in there but I'm still ploughing through it and it'll probably take me weeks.
I recommend a thorough dissecting of Tesla's 1896 patents. Especially his method of capacitor shorting - which is new to me, but I'm experimenting with it now.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on November 27, 2013, 05:09:47 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on November 27, 2013, 02:13:21 PM
Here's an implementation of that pump from a while ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFZYD05I29s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFZYD05I29s)

Dear d3x0r.

Whilst I agree with your sentiments regarding the Hydraulic ram as an energy amplifier the device is grossly inefficient !! I know because I have a Green and Carter pump.

I would say that almost 70% of the water that drives it goes to waste. This is not a problem as the spring has never dried up !! So as an OU idea IMO not a chance !!

Or am I missing something ?? Do you have an idea of how to improve the efficiency?

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 27, 2013, 08:09:29 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 26, 2013, 01:09:26 PM
I'm aware. I am going through his posts, from his humble beginnings to his present "gimee 10 million dollars" state.
I've had free energy for a while through the Benitez system so this stuff is completing my education. You won't catch me patronizing Tito.
Just go to the beginning and read his posts. If you've done, and do the experiments, you'll get there.
There's much to understand with Tesla and I am busy re-creating his patents where appropriate.
Benitez tells you how to step up your cap voltages.
A magnet is not necessary, but it amps up your power by simply using it as part of a lead.
I won't be teased by Tito or anyone else.

oh buddy nobuddy oblady oblada ;D

Just because i did not follow what you want and you starting to be mad at me? i told you to please understand ok.

What if i will be the one to make the rules like: give me first $3M, will you trust me then?, off course not! isn't it! >:(

What is my guarantee!, what do you think of me, no brain? :o

otits. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 27, 2013, 08:36:55 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 27, 2013, 08:09:29 PM

oh buddy nobuddy oblady oblada ;D

Just because i did not follow what you want and you starting to be mad at me? i told you to please understand ok.

What if i will be the one to make the rules like: give me first $3M, will you trust me then?, off course not! isn't it! >:(

What is my guarantee!, what do you think of me, no brain? :o

otits. ;D

You sound just like Kapanadze.

1 By yourself you can do nothing.
2 You need people to build and market devices.
3 These devices need certification.
4 This is just normal business.
5 Business is done through agreements and patent protection.
6 This is a legal process with lawyers producing watertight contracts.
7 This is how we do business in the developed world.

I am not mad at anyone. I am a free energy researcher.
I guarantee that if a free energy diagram was produced here the only people who would make
any money out of it are those who use normal honest business practices and that means paying
proper taxes.
Most people in the Western world can not wire a plug correctly.
In the UK 31,000 old people died last year because they could not afford to heat their homes.
You don't know how lucky you are living in a hot weather country.
My concern is to get the technology out without harming anyone - including the energy companies.
That way everyone wins.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 27, 2013, 11:55:26 PM

Quote from: Grumage on November 27, 2013, 05:09:47 PM
Dear d3x0r.

Whilst I agree with your sentiments regarding the Hydraulic ram as an energy amplifier the device is grossly inefficient !! I know because I have a Green and Carter pump.

I would say that almost 70% of the water that drives it goes to waste. This is not a problem as the spring has never dried up !! So as an OU idea IMO not a chance !!

Or am I missing something ?? Do you have an idea of how to improve the efficiency?

Cheers Grum.

ya; actually it's more joule thief-ish... converting low potential current into high potential lower current.
be interesting to see how the loss measured to the final flow in buckets per hour....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 28, 2013, 07:32:48 AM

Hello,
let me give two examples from Isaak Asimoves "New Guide to Science" or,in german :"Die exakten Geheimnisse unserer Welt" :
page 362:
Der amerikanische Physiker Josiah W. Gibbs legte 1876 -thousand eight-hundred and seventy-six- eine vollstaendig ausgearbeitete Theorie der chemischen Thermodynamik vor.Nahezu aus dem Nichts-diese wissenschaftliche Disziplin hatte es vorher weder dem Namen noch dem Inhalt nach gegeben-schuf Gibbs eine fertige,ausgereifte Wissenschaft.
Der ausfuehrliche Aufsatz,in dem Gibbs seineTheorie darlegte,schwebte hoch ueber dem Niveau seiner Zeitgenossen (zumindest seiner amerikanischen) und wurde von der Zeitschrift der Connecticut Academy of Arts and Sciences erst nach vielen Bedenken veroeffentlicht.Und selbst nach ihrer Veroeffentlichung blieb die Arbeit ,vermutlich dank Gibbs`streng mathematischer Argumentation und seines ueberaus leisen und zurueckhaltenden Naturells,unbeachtet, bis Ostwald sie 1883 entdeckte, ins Deutsche uebersetzte und die wissenschaftliche Welt ueber Gibbs`Bedeutung aufklaerte.
Ein Beispiel mag dem Leser einen Begriff von Gibbs`Bedeutung geben:

Seine Gleichungen zeigten die einfachen,aber strengen Regeln auf,nach denen sich Gleichgewichtszustaende zwischen verschiedenen Substanzen bilden, die gleichzeitig und miteinander in mehr als einer Phase exisitieren (z.B. in zwei verschiedenen Aggregatszustaenden,in fester Form und in Loesung;oder in einem Gemenge aus zwei nicht mischbaren Fluessigkeiten und einem Gas usw.).
Die von Gibbs aufgestellte Phasenregel ist ein fundamentales Gesetz der Metallurgie und vieler anderer chemischer Teildisziplinen.

example II,page 386 :
Sein schaerfster Gegenspieler war Nikola Tesla,ein aus Kroatien stammender Ingenieur, der fuer Edison gearbeitet hatte und von ihm schaebig behandelt worden war.
copy the above and fill in:
http://translate.google.com/?hl=de (http://translate.google.com/?hl=de)
I hear actually music - by a ghetto-buster/blaster : net current feeded: AC ,but I can ever change and take it with me ,then feeded by batteries :DC current : one motor DC and /or AC feeded - also called "Universal motor",Edison and Tesla technics together .
Sincerely
Oliver Christoph Waldhelm-Lancza

p.s.: Herr Werner Schneider,es war nicht boes gemeint: meine Zurechtweisung und ich danke Ihnen gleichzeitig meinen Fehler wieder-gut-zumachen : nicht C.C.Jung sondern-wie Sie es richtig wiedergaben- C.G.Jung - Carl Gustav Jung
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustav_Jung (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustav_Jung) ist der Name des Motiv-/Motivationsforschers

nicht dasz so ein Benjamin daher kommt und wieder "das und die" Glas (U.) zerbirsten laesst

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on November 28, 2013, 08:15:30 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 27, 2013, 08:36:55 PM

I am not mad at anyone. I am a free energy researcher.
I guarantee that if a free energy diagram was produced here the only people who would make
any money out of it are those who use normal honest business practices and that means paying
proper taxes.
Most people in the Western world can not wire a plug correctly.
In the UK 31,000 old people died last year because they could not afford to heat their homes.
You don't know how lucky you are living in a hot weather country.
My concern is to get the technology out without harming anyone - including the energy companies.
That way everyone wins.

Dear a.king21.

Very well put Sir, I could not agree more with your sentiments!!

Dear d3x0r.

"be interesting to see how the loss measured to the final flow in buckets per hour...."

I have an early 1930's encyclopaedia that quoted that for every "Bucket" raised 19 were wasted!! Does that answer your question? I do believe however that there have been some marked improvements in overall efficiency with more modern designs but the fact still remains.......... Less than COP 1.

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 28, 2013, 08:28:27 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 27, 2013, 08:36:55 PM

You sound just like Kapanadze.

1 By yourself you can do nothing.
2 You need people to build and market devices.
3 These devices need certification.
4 This is just normal business.
5 Business is done through agreements and patent protection.
6 This is a legal process with lawyers producing watertight contracts.
7 This is how we do business in the developed world.

I am not mad at anyone. I am a free energy researcher.
I guarantee that if a free energy diagram was produced here the only people who would make
any money out of it are those who use normal honest business practices and that means paying
proper taxes.
Most people in the Western world can not wire a plug correctly.
In the UK 31,000 old people died last year because they could not afford to heat their homes.
You don't know how lucky you are living in a hot weather country.
My concern is to get the technology out without harming anyone - including the energy companies.
That way everyone wins.

::) If you think you can patent and market a free energy device you are living in an illusion, there is no way the powers that be will ever let anyone market free energy, we have to build it and give it to the people with no thought of profit or it will never happen.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 28, 2013, 08:33:21 AM

You'v heard of planetary gears try planetary coils steady dc to load, pulsed using bifilar coils

taking advantage of the kick

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 28, 2013, 10:00:44 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 27, 2013, 04:37:53 PM
Sir, it's not my job to do an instructable. Carlos Benitez had this stuff sussed 100 years ago. I studied just one patent for 2 weeks. That's the level of intense study required.
I recommend his 4 battery system which uses stochastic mixing.
1 dc voltage with
2 radiant energy superimposed give
3 a beat frequency
COP2 less losses within the system.

Colorado spring notes: The addition of a free coil at the end of the secondary recreates Tesla's earthquake experiment, allowing RESONANT RISE.
There's other info in there but I'm still ploughing through it and it'll probably take me weeks.
I recommend a thorough dissecting of Tesla's 1896 patents. Especially his method of capacitor shorting - which is new to me, but I'm experimenting with it now.

reading the benitez patent reminded me of this section of eric dollard's book... swapping inductors/capacitors 'in time'

at least it's a tiny image :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 28, 2013, 10:06:35 AM

Eric Dollard Mobile YT Flux Capacitor been listening 10 times already if somebody can sketch what hes saying on the caps battery

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 28, 2013, 05:09:47 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 27, 2013, 08:36:55 PM

You sound just like Kapanadze.

1 By yourself you can do nothing.
2 You need people to build and market devices.
3 These devices need certification.
4 This is just normal business.
5 Business is done through agreements and patent protection.
6 This is a legal process with lawyers producing watertight contracts.
7 This is how we do business in the developed world.

I am not mad at anyone. I am a free energy researcher.
I guarantee that if a free energy diagram was produced here the only people who would make
any money out of it are those who use normal honest business practices and that means paying
proper taxes.
Most people in the Western world can not wire a plug correctly.
In the UK 31,000 old people died last year because they could not afford to heat their homes.
You don't know how lucky you are living in a hot weather country.
My concern is to get the technology out without harming anyone - including the energy companies.
That way everyone wins.

Sounds like kapanadze?, well maybe this is just the natural reaction of your propose rules in business

Your rules for me are not pro inventor or a discoverer like me , this kind of ruling, because its not for the one who made the hardwork, who gave his life for it, that goes for nothing if incase. ??? you know what i mean. though its legal isn't it?. just for the clever businessman only. ;)

i don't even tease anyone, just consider me as your naughty professor ok. its just you that feel teased . ;) ;D

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 28, 2013, 05:46:36 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 28, 2013, 05:09:47 PM

Sounds like kapanadze?, well maybe this is just the natural reaction of your propose rules in business

Your rules for me are not pro inventor or a discoverer like me , this kind of ruling, because its not for the one who made the hardwork, who gave his life for it, that goes for nothing if incase. ??? you know what i mean. though its legal isn't it?. just for the clever businessman only. ;)

i don't even tease anyone, just consider me as your naughty professor ok. its just you that feel teased . ;) ;D

otits ;D

gave his life... to the box in his closet... and when he dies, there was no point. RIP Peter Davey.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 28, 2013, 06:36:43 PM

Non disclosure issues and security had been the primary barrier to OU quest.......
If the super rich will only reach out to the so callled OU researchers and their inventions......
think of Mr Dingel thats a fact of life that were never changed to date so far
totoalas
.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 29, 2013, 03:58:48 AM

Hmmm.
Well gadgetmall has become a millionaire and they are selling his joule thief open source device big time in the East.
He has also told me things of a confidential nature which will remain confidential.
But then gadgetmall is doing business correctly.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 29, 2013, 04:22:02 AM

This is what a real professor is like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwk_2Zp_P4Q

Tito is not fit to be in the same company.
The real professor shows the Tesla Colorado springs way of energy amplification using a free energy coil.
He also shows the benefit of using thick wire in this coil.
No cryptic comments like Tito.
I suggest you save this lecture. The old scientist is a true hero.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 29, 2013, 04:42:04 AM

So I've been thinking; as usual.

This new coil generates an apparent 5W from 0.6W....

So, there IS a difference between running current through a 1:100 transformer and getting X/100A and 100X V; and running a current into a resonant tank that is storing a voltage wave 100X of the input voltage.

power in is 100V 0.1A resonance is 10000V and load draws 0.1A
10W input and effective draw of 1000W (but can't draw all the input)

power in is 100V 0.1A resonance is 10000V and load draws 0.05A
10W input and effective draw of 500W (50% of input current; might work)

If you keep the original resonant voltage mostly in the tank, you get to draw most of the 0.1A of input but at 100X the voltage; since it's not really transforming, it's adding. but have to leave enough to cover... if it's a 80% normal bounce back you need to leave at least 20% input...

Why is back EMF the first thing that happens? I've been backwards using that ...is back EMF on the other side when discussing motors instead of circuits?

Falstad Sim
(http://www.falstad.com/circuit/#%24+1+2.5000000000000004E-7+17.532943091211475+53+12.0+50%0Ag+480+384+480+400+0%0Af+432+128+480+128+0+3.0%0Af+432+288+480+288+0+3.0%0Ad+432+192+480+192+1+0.805904783%0Aw+432+160+432+192+0%0Ad+432+224+480+224+1+0.805904783%0Aw+480+224+512+224+0%0Aw+512+224+512+112+0%0Aw+480+112+512+112+0%0Aw+480+272+496+272+0%0Aw+480+192+496+192+0%0Aw+496+272+496+192+0%0Ar+352+80+352+128+0+10000.0%0Ar+384+128+384+160+0+10000.0%0Ar+352+288+352+256+0+10000.0%0Ar+384+288+384+320+0+10000.0%0Aw+352+288+384+288+0%0Aw+384+288+432+288+0%0Aw+352+128+384+128+0%0Aw+384+128+432+128+0%0Ag+384+160+384+192+0%0Ag+384+352+384+384+0%0Aw+208+96+208+256+0%0Aw+208+96+208+64+0%0Aw+352+64+352+80+0%0Al+272+48+336+48+0+0.064+-0.0032090833226698875%0Al+608+96+608+176+0+0.008+-0.42796390917527044%0Al+608+240+608+304+0+0.008+-0.4311729924979404%0Ac+544+160+544+224+0+1.0E-6+-51.200865768002686%0Aw+608+96+544+96+0%0Aw+544+304+608+304+0%0Aw+608+240+608+208+0%0Aw+608+176+608+208+0%0Aw+608+208+656+208+0%0Aw+656+208+656+48+0%0Aw+656+48+336+48+0%0Aw+272+48+208+48+0%0Aw+208+48+208+64+0%0Aw+496+272+544+272+0%0Aw+544+272+544+304+0%0Aw+544+272+544+224+0%0Aw+512+112+544+112+0%0Aw+544+96+544+112+0%0Aw+544+112+544+160+0%0Aw+384+320+384+352+0%0Aw+480+144+528+144+0%0Aw+528+144+528+304+0%0Aw+480+304+480+368+0%0Aw+480+384+480+368+0%0As+480+304+528+304+0+0+false%0As+560+352+512+352+0+1+false%0Ag+512+384+512+400+0%0Aw+512+384+512+352+0%0Aw+544+96+560+96+0%0Aw+560+96+560+352+0%0Aw+432+224+432+240+0%0Aw+320+256+352+256+0%0Aw+224+256+208+256+0%0Aw+384+240+432+240+0%0Aw+384+256+384+240+0%0Aw+384+272+384+288+0%0AR+144+96+112+96+0+0+40.0+24.0+0.0+0.0+0.5%0Aw+144+96+208+96+0%0Aw+384+256+384+272+0%0Aw+352+64+304+64+0%0Aw+288+64+208+64+0%0Aw+288+64+304+64+0%0Aw+320+256+224+256+0%0Aw+432+160+432+128+0%0A162+656+288+656+336+1+85.0+1.0+0.0+0.0%0Ag+656+336+656+352+0%0Aw+608+304+640+304+0%0Aw+640+304+640+288+0%0Aw+640+288+656+288+0%0A162+704+112+704+176+1+85.0+1.0+0.0+0.0%0Ag+704+176+704+192+0%0Aw+704+112+704+96+0%0Aw+704+96+608+96+0%0Ao+28+64+1+163+80.0+9.765625E-5+0+-1%0Ao+61+64+1+35+5.0+9.765625E-5+1+-1%0Ao+69+64+1+35+10.0+9.765625E-5+2+-1%0Ao+74+64+1+35+10.0+9.765625E-5+3+-1%0Ao+34+64+0+35+80.0+0.2+4+-1%0Ao+71+64+0+97+160.0+0.8+5+-1%0A)

5.8mw peek in, 2 loads output at 1.79W, power in the tank 22W

so how do I make a capacitive/storage load that resembles a LED? Spark gap?

Unfortunatly; there's not an integral function... the 1.79W is only taken at a low frequency... but I think at a higher frequency than 1/308.... (or even 1/716)

-------
LT Spice fails to generate such positive results.

I think... the higher the content of the resonant tank, the more the power required to increase it? So really the 100% input is reduced to the 20% effective gain so the power stops growing in the tank, and then taking even 10%... I dunno

It's also a matter of like converting amps to volts... but coverting a long, lower power into a shorter higher power...

Like the old scientist's resonant coil is easily 100X the input... maybe this is the argument to maintain power in = power out...

Otherwise I'd think these fly wheel motor/generator systems would work... storing momentum in the flywheel, so the effective power available is larger than the input; after a time...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 29, 2013, 01:15:41 PM

No, you must not load the tank circuit.... ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 29, 2013, 09:38:05 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 29, 2013, 04:22:02 AM
This is what a real professor is like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwk_2Zp_P4Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwk_2Zp_P4Q)

Tito is not fit to be in the same company.
The real professor shows the Tesla Colorado springs way of energy amplification using a free energy coil.
He also shows the benefit of using thick wire in this coil.
No cryptic comments like Tito.
I suggest you save this lecture. The old scientist is a true hero.

Sorry buddy, but i just can't really accept your ruling method. :-\
for the real thing that happens to other inventors and discoverer doesn't conform to what you are saying. :-\

I am a hero to my family!!! >:( >:( >:( and that is the most important to me!, got that! >:(

Ya, tesla is a hero and died poor because of the clever business mans. ::) :-\

Again this is an endless discussion. :-X :-\ >:(

i'm through to this!!! >:( >:( >:(

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 29, 2013, 09:41:47 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on November 28, 2013, 05:46:36 PM

gave his life... to the box in his closet... and when he dies, there was no point. RIP Peter Davey.

My children are outside of your box. :P tesla has no children. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 29, 2013, 09:43:17 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 29, 2013, 04:22:02 AM
This is what a real professor is like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwk_2Zp_P4Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwk_2Zp_P4Q)

Tito is not fit to be in the same company.
The real professor shows the Tesla Colorado springs way of energy amplification using a free energy coil.
He also shows the benefit of using thick wire in this coil.
No cryptic comments like Tito.
I suggest you save this lecture. The old scientist is a true hero.

I don't care! and i'm not interested! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 29, 2013, 10:02:07 PM

Tito: If you want some good business advice it is this:
Use your competitive advantage in an energy hungry enterprise.
Inventions are only useful if they are used.
Then when you get used to business, you will see that I am right.
God bless.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 29, 2013, 10:10:58 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 29, 2013, 10:02:07 PM
Tito: If you want some good business advice it is this:
Use your competitive advantage in an energy hungry enterprise.
Inventions are only useful if they are used.
Then when you get used to business, you will see that I am right.
God bless.

Thanks bud, i'll think to that. ;)
all i want is for my children first. :)
maybe that's the reason why i can't be a good hero to everyone. :)

thank's friend, hope your right :)
God bless you too ;)
otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 29, 2013, 10:30:34 PM

ok here!

What can you do to remove the noise in the spark gap,
but the whole strength is still there
and from that point making the energy in the spark gap to be included in the longitudinal wave.
that resulted in a tremendous strong field. :) 8)

otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 29, 2013, 10:43:09 PM

Add a cap parallel to the spark gap>>>>>????? :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 29, 2013, 10:52:12 PM

Quote from: totoalas on November 29, 2013, 10:43:09 PM
Add a cap parallel to the spark gap>>>>> ??? ?? :)

No, buddy that is not the right way.
using that method we'll just loosing the momentum

What i'm trying to everyone to learn is the action of YIN and YANG effect and method. 8) how is that in a circuit? :o ??? :-X

That's it.
if you can get that then no more energy problem. :)
Goodbye again and Merry Christmas ;D

by the way, is there a spark gap in SM TPU? ??? hmmmmm.

otits the great A E I O U ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on November 29, 2013, 10:56:50 PM

iVE USED FERRITE MAGNET IN THE RELAY TO REDUCE THE NOISE WHICH i USED AS SPARK GAP
BUT i EVENTUALLY USED IT AS TERMINAL BLOCK ELIMINATING THE SPARK GAP

SHOPPING SHOPPING PAG MAY TIME SA GONBEI CHINA

Bro sa secondary pang bahay na load ac ref washing machine rice cooker lighting plantsa individual b gamit mo o isang unit lang ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on November 30, 2013, 12:03:16 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 29, 2013, 09:41:47 PM

My children are outside of your box. :P tesla has no children. ;)

that doesn't help if they don't actually use and understand or exersize the knowledge... searl's kids didn't help, hendershot's kids didn't help, they may be outside of the box, but then they're not in the closet either, and have no bearing.

and philosophical nuggets don't have bearing either...

"as goes the carrot so goes the donkey" Ya sure, makes sense if you know the detail that it's tied in front of the donkey; but really out of context, why does that happen?

I dunno; I think it's really just a troll technique. For lack of anything better to do, make people respond to you because you state over and over you have the idea, but never really giving a full picture... it's not kapanadze, it's searl.

maybe it's something I should learn so I can get some feedback :/

But now you're dead, and gone forever, dreadful sorry clementine.... glad you could stop by to add more useless noise and evoke the same from others.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 30, 2013, 02:37:02 AM

Hello,
you know what that is : https://www.google.de/search?q=npn&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=_5SZUoHmIoaTtQaCgIGgBA&ved=0CC8QsAQ&biw=1329&bih=525 (https://www.google.de/search?q=npn&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=_5SZUoHmIoaTtQaCgIGgBA&ved=0CC8QsAQ&biw=1329&bih=525) = 1 (one) cell
and seriell and parallel this is also called a thermovoltaic cell array/net/mesh .
Diffficult ?
Sincerely
OCWL

p.s.: by special wish ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRtAO-nffz0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRtAO-nffz0)

New matter creation from electromagnetic waves - by chopping and vector rotations of beat(le)s ,Klaus Rassbach

Spark/Flash/Blitz = ED (Coloumb load) M= a.Mining b.Milling

f.e. : http://www.borealis.com/ (http://www.borealis.com/) Avto Materials/Metals http://www.avtometals.gi/ (http://www.avtometals.gi/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvfwj2D7INE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvfwj2D7INE)

p.s.II: http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=singleline&query=klaus+rassbach&locale=en_EP&DB=worldwide.espacenet.com (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=singleline&query=klaus+rassbach&locale=en_EP&DB=worldwide.espacenet.com) and Iosiah W. Gibbs 8) ( Bimetall , Nitinol , Chemalloy,npn,....... )

Gedanken sind Dinge
ED is Matter https://www.google.de/search?hl=de&noj=1&q=gedanken+sind+dinge&oq=gedanken+sind+dinge&gs_l=serp.12..0i22i30l2.51533.54982.0.56586.82.20.0.0.0.15.144.1856.1j15.16.0....0...1c.1.32.serp..81.1.130.L9HzAhgqLKw (https://www.google.de/search?hl=de&noj=1&q=gedanken+sind+dinge&oq=gedanken+sind+dinge&gs_l=serp.12..0i22i30l2.51533.54982.0.56586.82.20.0.0.0.15.144.1856.1j15.16.0....0...1c.1.32.serp..81.1.130.L9HzAhgqLKw)

;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLxrrE6wC5I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLxrrE6wC5I) weil Juno wartet,Zeit fuers Gassi-Gehen

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 30, 2013, 04:40:30 AM

One simple way and the first step used by Tesla was to use multiple spark gap in series. Silent spark was there, but how I'm not sure.
My theory is this : series spark gap is like a few resistors in series = higher resistance. When air is not ionized the current flowed through each spark gap is lower then if there would be one bigger spark gap, then when spark goes through the last spark gap there is low resistance ionized plasma and the huge power can be passed silently...
I assumed that sound is the loose of energy due to abrupt ionization,I may be wrong.
Then Tesla found the brilliant idea of using rotary interrupter when the gap is VARIABLE, and ideally placed in good insulating oil. Try to draw conclusions, please....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 30, 2013, 04:51:33 AM

I am using a rotary interrupter. Relays and reed switches wear out whereas you can change the brushes in the rotary easily.
Also you can configure the rotary into dis-charge and re-charge at 180 degrees easily.
In the 1896 patents Tesla gave 4 methods of tuning also.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on November 30, 2013, 10:16:18 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 29, 2013, 10:30:34 PM
ok here!

What can you do to remove the noise in the spark gap,
but the whole strength is still there
and from that point making the energy in the spark gap to be included in the longitudinal wave.
that resulted in a tremendous strong field. :) 8)

otits

Use series diodes with caps? ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on November 30, 2013, 12:28:45 PM

well, we need somebody to replicate what tito said about charging caps and discharging and post it for everyone to see because, the concept is so 'doubting' ::) Then perhaps, this thread will die a glorified death.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 30, 2013, 01:40:56 PM

Quote from: Leely on November 30, 2013, 12:28:45 PM
well, we need somebody to replicate what tito said about charging caps and discharging and post it for everyone to see because, the concept is so 'doubting' ::) Then perhaps, this thread will die a glorified death.

Tried it in sim, where each cap was discharged into an individual loaded transformer. It was a way around figuring out the 'special' connections that i have not figured out yet.

I dont see an advantage yet between in and out totals. Not saying I have it correct. Dunno.

Use Falstad sim.....

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Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 30, 2013, 03:33:51 PM

Mags

What would happen IF during the charge from power source there would be another source ? The discharge rate would be faster ? No need to wait for charge ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 30, 2013, 04:02:42 PM

Quote from: forest on November 30, 2013, 03:33:51 PM
Mags

What would happen IF during the charge from power source there would be another source ? The discharge rate would be faster ? No need to wait for charge ?

Not sure. I just went ahead with the basic idea to see what was going on. I may need to shorten the pulses, or figure a way to combine the discharges to 1 primary.

But as far as I can see, the power taken from each cap is replaced by the source.

The problem with real experimentation on this one is too little detail. How many caps in series? 10,000uf each? High voltage? 10,000uf at 450v are not cheap, then buying multiples for experiments? Is 100v each enough? How many? lol I could just go on and on.

If the effect is real, we should be able to see an advantage with just 2 caps in series I would think. The whole premise is on caps charged in series and discharged individually in sequence. More caps in series the better? I dont know.

So Im not diving in to the unknown with what was given so far. Ive done a lot of that and it can be very disappointing. >:( ;) There are many other things to work on that have much greater detail to feel good about moving forward. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 30, 2013, 04:41:25 PM

Thought I'd share Janost's observations about mosfet behaving 'like' a spark gap, FWIW.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-308.html#post230300 (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-308.html#post230300)
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 30, 2013, 05:03:50 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on November 30, 2013, 04:41:25 PM
Thought I'd share Janost's observations about mosfet behaving 'like' a spark gap, FWIW.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-308.html#post230300 (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-308.html#post230300)
Bob

Bah, Im logged out and dont remember my pass. Gotta search my email.

Cant see images without login.

But reading a bit, when he talkes about TKs iron pipe and radiator in the ground, wouldnt that be an earth battery? :o ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 30, 2013, 05:39:31 PM

Mags,do you really think that classical inventions like
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=59&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19230607&CC=GB&NR=198467A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=59&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19230607&CC=GB&NR=198467A&KC=A)
are the solution for 2013 searchings ?

I would prefer to look under "MARCONI CO LTD or MARCONI WIRELESS TELE........" ::)

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 30, 2013, 06:06:55 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on November 30, 2013, 05:39:31 PM
Mags,do you really think that classical inventions like
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=59&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19230607&CC=GB&NR=198467A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=59&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19230607&CC=GB&NR=198467A&KC=A)
are the solution for 2013 searchings ?

I would prefer to look under "MARCONI CO LTD or MARCONI WIRELESS TELE........" ::)

Sincerely
OCWL

Not really. I was just observing the possibility that a whole radiator and iron pipe or bars in the ground may have appreciable current. For example, I have a small neon driver circuit from a printer/scanner. it takes 12v .5a in 1kv sec seems to light a 25w 120v bulb pretty good. So stepping up low V high A can do some things that seem very good.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 01, 2013, 12:36:17 AM

Quote from: d3x0r on November 30, 2013, 12:03:16 AM
that doesn't help if they don't actually use and understand or exersize the knowledge... searl's kids didn't help, hendershot's kids didn't help, they may be outside of the box, but then they're not in the closet either, and have no bearing.

and philosophical nuggets don't have bearing either...

"as goes the carrot so goes the donkey" Ya sure, makes sense if you know the detail that it's tied in front of the donkey; but really out of context, why does that happen?

I dunno; I think it's really just a troll technique. For lack of anything better to do, make people respond to you because you state over and over you have the idea, but never really giving a full picture... it's not kapanadze, it's searl.

maybe it's something I should learn so I can get some feedback :/

But now you're dead, and gone forever, dreadful sorry clementine.... glad you could stop by to add more useless noise and evoke the same from others.

It depends. >:(
Let everything goes naturally for everything has a purpose and they were meant for that.
And remember : there is no accident or happening that God isn't in control.

LEARN TO BE PATIENT :)

WELL, NOISE FOR ME SOMETIMES ARE HELPFUL SPECIALLY IN THE FIELDS ;D

O my darling, o my darling don't worry i'm not clementine. ;D

Everyone here has the same reactions about me "getting attention" ???

Is everyone cannot sense that i'm telling the truth? ??? ??? weird. :(

Regards to clementine my darling. ;D

etits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 01, 2013, 01:39:49 AM

I do not know why ,but it smells "irgendwie" "Oh my darling,oh my darling , oh my darling Clementine .... "
nugget searching area ::)
Since and earlier
OCWL

p.s.: I saw a photography from phillipines childes ( m. and female -be awared from pedophily oriented helpers )

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 01, 2013, 02:17:49 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on December 01, 2013, 01:39:49 AM
I do not know why ,but it smells "irgendwie" "Oh my darling,oh my darling , oh my darling Clementine .... "
nugget searching area ::)
Since and earlier
OCWL

p.s.: I saw a photography from phillipines childes ( m. and female -be awared from pedophily oriented helpers )

:-\ ??? :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 01, 2013, 10:28:13 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 30, 2013, 05:03:50 PM
Bah, Im logged out and dont remember my pass. Gotta search my email.
Cant see images without login.
But reading a bit, when he talkes about TKs iron pipe and radiator in the ground, wouldnt that be an earth battery? :o ;)
Mags

Hey Mags,
I think it was kind of like an electron pump, pulling energy out of the ground. It might not really be relevant. I just thought I'd share it, thinking it might have some use. On the Don Smith device, the way I understand it, the spark gap is on the ground side of the setup. First throught might be that the spark coming from the coils/caps to ground, but radiant works opposite of conventional electricity, and so, it would be coming from the ground. I don't know if Teets' setup employs a ground, but thought Janost's use of a mosfet to function as a spark gap was worthy of consideration.

I've wrapped a flat Tesla style double swbf coil (lamp wire) around a large coffee can, so that it's come out like a big donut (hole in middle, like SM's TPU). I'm going to try using them in different configs with caps, in series and in parallel, with parallel wound bifi coils around sides, connected first in series (thinking of Thane Heins' patent) - going to try different combos with caps and diodes. Will keep the group posted.
Happy December!
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 01, 2013, 05:13:33 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on December 01, 2013, 10:28:13 AM
Hey Mags,
I think it was kind of like an electron pump, pulling energy out of the ground. It might not really be relevant. I just thought I'd share it, thinking it might have some use. On the Don Smith device, the way I understand it, the spark gap is on the ground side of the setup. First throught might be that the spark coming from the coils/caps to ground, but radiant works opposite of conventional electricity, and so, it would be coming from the ground. I don't know if Teets' setup employs a ground, but thought Janost's use of a mosfet to function as a spark gap was worthy of consideration.

I've wrapped a flat Tesla style double swbf coil (lamp wire) around a large coffee can, so that it's come out like a big donut (hole in middle, like SM's TPU). I'm going to try using them in different configs with caps, in series and in parallel, with parallel wound bifi coils around sides, connected first in series (thinking of Thane Heins' patent) - going to try different combos with caps and diodes. Will keep the group posted.
Happy December!
Bob

That is actually just a current or electron source, i believe there are lots of way or alternative to that.

Well, tesla and moray use the ground but tesla made an improvement in his car and not anymore use the earth ground.

well, you can play to that for the mean time and not bad. ;D

Take care buddy ;)

@A.king
That rotary switch isn't a secret, that was actually the tesla's interrupter or controller. :D
There is much more to that were we should laugh. ;D

And buddy, i am very very happy when someone got the secret. :D

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 02, 2013, 07:45:45 AM

Re Tito:

I think he gets too much stick. I've been looking through his posts and he really knows his stuff.

RE money:
For several months I was in a position to be Kapanadze's agent. I went everywhere looking for investors,
and I only found one. Then Kapanadze panicked when he saw our space age equipment and refused to
complete the agreement. He said we would find his secret.
Our intention was to make sure he was not somehow abstracting electricity which as you know is everywhere
because most people are on the grid. So my partner lost 20,000 dollars.
I lost 2 years of my life trying to put the deal together and nearly lost my house.
Tito: The only way to make money out of any invention is to do business the way business is done.
So if you have a competitive advantage you should use it.
It really is that simple.
No one is going to give you 3 million dollars without due diligence.
Also remember that solar is a competitor.
I spoke to John Newman and it became apparent that although he has a self runner, it is not competitive
with solar panels.
So if you want to discuss the matter you can pm me.
Kapanadze also told me personally that the secret is so simple you'll laugh.
So for me it's back to diodes, coils and caps, and the famous Tesla controller.
Incidentally I "designed" the Kapanadze aquarium2 although I do not know the secret.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 02, 2013, 09:25:53 AM

Fred Miekka
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&PN=us&ST=advanced&IN=fred+miekka&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&PN=us&ST=advanced&IN=fred+miekka&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC)
from the above list,his disclosing:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=17&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20030206&CC=US&NR=2003025408A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=17&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20030206&CC=US&NR=2003025408A1&KC=A1)
To know the difference between nominal and physical electric motor power capacity

as second reference:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=23&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19980804&CC=US&NR=5788007A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=23&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19980804&CC=US&NR=5788007A&KC=A)
comparing with
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19750520&CC=US&NR=3884317A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19750520&CC=US&NR=3884317A&KC=A)

to also think about such "ridicoulos idiots" like Frederick Knapp:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=augustus+knapp (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=augustus+knapp)
patenting =publicating something like this:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19320121&CC=GB&NR=365209A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19320121&CC=GB&NR=365209A&KC=A)
his work seems me similar
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citedDocuments?CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19951107&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citedDocuments?CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19951107&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
I mean this:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=4&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19701013&CC=US&NR=3533484A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=4&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19701013&CC=US&NR=3533484A&KC=A)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield_Wood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield_Wood)
Member
of a
Hall of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1xO7RwTV4k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1xO7RwTV4k) ::)

http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/2011/07/volt_schmolt_gold_cup_legend_g.html (http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/2011/07/volt_schmolt_gold_cup_legend_g.html)

https://web.archive.org/web/20090107184206/http://www.mcn.org/a/omni/ElectriLiteM2.htm (https://web.archive.org/web/20090107184206/http://www.mcn.org/a/omni/ElectriLiteM2.htm)
http://www.didik.com/didik_ev.htm (http://www.didik.com/didik_ev.htm)
http://www.rqriley.com/ (http://www.rqriley.com/)
http://www.prismz.com/ (http://www.prismz.com/)

and for offthegrid-thinker : http://alternativeshelter.htmlplanet.com/domes.htm (http://alternativeshelter.htmlplanet.com/domes.htm)
http://www.ecogenicsresearchcenter.org/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on December 02, 2013, 10:49:59 AM

Here is where my thoughts are at. Surely forest will get a good laugh :)

For example:
1 to 1 transformer windings. Wind secondary coil onto the core first, wind the primary coil over that, wind an additional secondary coil over the primary. Connect each secondary to it's own cap. If efficiency is 75% for 1 primary to 1 secondary, will that not give about 150% energy for 2 secondaries combined?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 02, 2013, 10:54:06 AM

Hmmm,
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20060112&CC=DE&NR=102004029434A1&KC=A1

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on December 02, 2013, 11:26:13 AM

Actually I am thinking the primary should be LC circuit. Secondaries connected to caps through diodes to only allow current flow from each coil end to the caps. Windings on a single tube core like a Tesla transformer. Pulse the LC primary and let it oscillate a couple of cycles before pulsing again.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 02, 2013, 05:37:16 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 02, 2013, 07:45:45 AM
Re Tito:

I think he gets too much stick. I've been looking through his posts and he really knows his stuff.

RE money:
For several months I was in a position to be Kapanadze's agent. I went everywhere looking for investors,
and I only found one. Then Kapanadze panicked when he saw our space age equipment and refused to
complete the agreement. He said we would find his secret.
Our intention was to make sure he was not somehow abstracting electricity which as you know is everywhere
because most people are on the grid. So my partner lost 20,000 dollars.
I lost 2 years of my life trying to put the deal together and nearly lost my house.
Tito: The only way to make money out of any invention is to do business the way business is done.
So if you have a competitive advantage you should use it.
It really is that simple.
No one is going to give you 3 million dollars without due diligence.
Also remember that solar is a competitor.
I spoke to John Newman and it became apparent that although he has a self runner, it is not competitive
with solar panels.
So if you want to discuss the matter you can pm me.
Kapanadze also told me personally that the secret is so simple you'll laugh.
So for me it's back to diodes, coils and caps, and the famous Tesla controller.
Incidentally I "designed" the Kapanadze aquarium2 although I do not know the secret.

Don't worry i am not closing everything, i am still in adjustable mode, but i can't really accept that simple business ruling. :( :-\

For the meantime i'll just use it in my earn of living. :)

The secret really is a moving target. hehehehhehehehhe ;D

First thing to consider at TK: how he start his device to run? ::)
Then think all, all, all the possibilities in that portion then choose the closest.
always read and study everything, every working horse of any engine and analyze everyday everything that you see. ;) 8)
be patient :D :)
humility, humility, humility ;)
Relax in thinking chair. :) ;)
And the most important thing to do is pray to JESUS. ;) 8)

Well, my brain is automatically backtracking all i'm reading and many times it makes me stop anywhere i am and suddenly experimenting and formulating anything in my brain ,
from nonesense to sensiful things. ;D
i don't know why. ???

and well sometimes i'm talking to myself explaining about the idea. hahahahhahha. but but but I'M NOT CRAZY OK!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( ;D ;D ;D HAHAHAHA
WHAT A WEIRD I AM. :D :D ;D

But that's how i got it. ;) 8)

ONE THING MORE, DO NOT EXPECT THAT YOU COULD SIMPLY READ THE SECRET IN ANY THREAD EVEN IN THIS THREAD.
OFF COURSE THEY WILL NOT TEACH YOU, EVEN ME I WILL NOT WRITE IT HERE OFF COURSE.
BUT ONE THING THAT YOU CAN ASSURE TO ME, I'M TELLING THE CLOSEST AND TRUTH,
JUST, WE'LL IN JUMBLE FORM ONLY. :D ??? ;D

well, i'm not genius i've even failed more than ten subjects in college when i'm not interested, but maybe there are some part similar in me like tesla the way i think. :D 8)

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 02, 2013, 08:49:17 PM

http://www.smecc.org/winfield_salisbury.htm (http://www.smecc.org/winfield_salisbury.htm)
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=winfield+salisbury&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=winfield+salisbury&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC)
from the above list:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=32&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19600607&CC=US&NR=2939998A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=32&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19600607&CC=US&NR=2939998A&KC=A)
description page 2,line 55-72
black body= Boltzmann total( =100%) radiation absorbing body
and the Planksche Wirkungsquantum(Phonon)-Symbol
so the target is the total = photo-phono-electrical-effect converter = thermoelectric converter(condensator-array) like
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=joseph+yater (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=joseph+yater)

used also as foil-/membran-loudspeaker ;

other simple loudspeaker solution
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19880519&CC=DE&NR=3637666A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19880519&CC=DE&NR=3637666A1&KC=A1)

and from the same inventor a "netgrid-infeeder",using condensator as "filter and accumulator":
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19900104&CC=DE&NR=3821856A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19900104&CC=DE&NR=3821856A1&KC=A1)

many possibilities are publicated and easy to replicate:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=herbert+zielinski (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=herbert+zielinski)
from the above list:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19960215&CC=DE&NR=4428026A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19960215&CC=DE&NR=4428026A1&KC=A1)
skilled in this Art of Noise conversion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw7Uu32s690 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw7Uu32s690)

About the "netgrid-infeeder" (Neuheiten"-Magazin 6/88 Page 31/32) I spoke in the 90`s with Mr. Joachim Rieder and he told me that the productioncosts for a 2KW-device would be 100 DM;
today,using http://www.enthone.de/New_Technology_Development/ORMECON_Acquisition.aspx (http://www.enthone.de/New_Technology_Development/ORMECON_Acquisition.aspx) technology
Wirtschaftswoche NR.26/18.6.1998
ELEKTRONIK DRASTISCH VERKLEINERT
Leiterplatten,die mit elektronischen Bauelementen wie Widerstaenden,Kondensatoren und Mikroprozessoren bestueckt werden,lassen sich um den Faktor 10 bis 100 verkleinern,wenn sie mit einem neuen Verfahren behandelt werden.Bisher werden die geaetzten und gebohrten Platten in fluessiges Zinn getaucht,das nach einer Vorbehandlung-Auftragen eines Loetstopplacks- nur an den Stellen haftet,an denen spaeter Bauteile wie Chips oder Widerstaende befestigt werden.Die Metallklekse,die dabei entstehen,sind viel groeser und dicker als noetig,so dass der weiteren Miniaturisierung beispielsweise von Laptops und Funktelefonen enge Grenzen gesetzt sind.
Die Ormecon Chemie GmbH & Co.KG im schleswig-holsteinischen Ammersbeck uebrzieht die spaeteren Loetstellen mit einem sogenannten Organischen Metall,einem Kunststoff der Strom leitet.Die Schicht ist mit 80 Nanometern(ein Nanometer ist ein Millionstel Millimeter) extrem duenn,ihre Groesse laesst sich praezise steuern.Mit Hilfe eines chemischen Abscheideverfahrens werden die derart vorbehandelten Flaechen mit einer duennen Zinnschicht ueberzogen.Die Abstaende von zwei Bauteilen auf der Leiterplatte lassen sich durch dieses Verfahren auf ein Zehntel reduzieren: von einem auf 0,1 Millimeter. " Zitat Ende.
http://translate.google.com/?hl=de

and cheap condensator like http://www.rexresearch.com/ning/ning.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/ning/ning.htm)

I would estimate each 1KW productioncosts with 25 Euros.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 03, 2013, 02:01:45 AM

I found this guys vid interesting. It is part 2 of 2, check out his other vids also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpNEJl1lmUY

Its of a Hendershot build. He has literature, not sure if its correct, but...

A while back, there was a thread here about winding a coil around an electrolytic cap, pulsing the coil and cap puts out. Outputs were weak.

I had thought of that somewhat at the time and did some experiments. Maybe some here remembers it. I never thought of making the cap the way it is described here. But here at 2:00 the is a diagram of a cap that seems to be wired like an open ended bifi coil, but large flat conductors, and supposedly it can act as a pickup coil.

Ive never seen these documents before. And is different than what Ive seen so far.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on December 03, 2013, 12:12:40 PM

Tito,

One question, if you would be so kind.
You wrote "verrrrrry faaaaast make break"
Would 800 times per second be fast enough?

Thank you

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 03, 2013, 07:29:52 PM

Cool, I wonder if its direction oriented with the coil winding direction. I think the idea is to catch the electric field as it collapses to the core, would probably work better with a split core.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 03, 2013, 08:04:10 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 03, 2013, 07:29:52 PM
Cool, I wonder if its direction oriented with the coil winding direction. I think the idea is to catch the electric field as it collapses to the core, would probably work better with a split core.

if there is a difference, reverse the electrical connections.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 03, 2013, 09:21:53 PM

The way I see it, well, saw it back then, if we think about how the AV plug works to charge a cap from an open ended secondary, the we must have something going back and forth in the secondary, even though there is no physical connection between the 2 out leads of the secondary.

So looking at the diagram in the vid, a magnetic induction should cause these same forces as the secondary in my above comment. I wish I had a copy of that paper the guy has. It 'looks' like if it were induced, and there were clockwise currents, as would be in a coil, then 1 lead would be + and the other - .

But does that constitute OU in any way? If so why? Dunno. If not, then convention has its place. Maybe my ideas are wrong. I just look at things and I can make sense of one thing with knowledge of another. My brain goes into overdrive at times. Like Tito says about himself, I can understand. But it depresses me a bit when I cant come up with 1 way of doing it, when he seems to have many. Its not because Im lazy. Its just that we are not the same and have gone many different paths than each other. ;) Even though we both may have those same abilities. Just as many here have. ;)

I dont have the fire I had a couple years ago. I havnt given up. But I find I need to put time into my work and life also. I get that fire here n there, but the fuel is running out it seems. lol

I think here n there, "Do I have all the ingredients here to make an OU device?" So far, I cant say. :-\

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 03, 2013, 09:37:26 PM

Almost forgot. ::) Another observation, if one were to make a capacitor with the aluminum tap in the vid, if we know how caps are made and work, the 2 separate tapes would be rolled together, so that each layer alternates + and - tapes. But here it looks like the first is rolled, then the other on top, with wire connections connected to the tapes, 1 wire to the outer end edge of the last wrap of the first tape and another wire to the starting edge of the first wrap of the second tape.

So the actual capacitance, being it is called a capacitor here, should only be between the 2 adjacent wraps of the tape, the last wrap of the first tape, and the first wrap of the outer tape.

Not sure what is intended there. But I guess we can try. ;D Thats what we should be doing. Testing unconventional ways, being convention is mostly known.

So when someone says why are you doing that, it doesnt make sense. Just give them one of these. 8) ;)

Mags

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 03, 2013, 10:59:00 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 03, 2013, 09:21:53 PM
The way I see it, well, saw it back then, if we think about how the AV plug works to charge a cap from an open ended secondary, the we must have something going back and forth in the secondary, even though there is no physical connection between the 2 out leads of the secondary.

So looking at the diagram in the vid, a magnetic induction should cause these same forces as the secondary in my above comment. I wish I had a copy of that paper the guy has. It 'looks' like if it were induced, and there were clockwise currents, as would be in a coil, then 1 lead would be + and the other - .

But does that constitute OU in any way? If so why? Dunno. If not, then convention has its place. Maybe my ideas are wrong. I just look at things and I can make sense of one thing with knowledge of another. My brain goes into overdrive at times. Like Tito says about himself, I can understand. But it depresses me a bit when I cant come up with 1 way of doing it, when he seems to have many. Its not because Im lazy. Its just that we are not the same and have gone many different paths than each other. ;) Even though we both may have those same abilities. Just as many here have. ;)

I dont have the fire I had a couple years ago. I havnt given up. But I find I need to put time into my work and life also. I get that fire here n there, but the fuel is running out it seems. lol

I think here n there, "Do I have all the ingredients here to make an OU device?" So far, I cant say. :-\

Mags

Hey buddy. :D

Don't be depressed okay? The secrets is nothing but a junk for me. :D
The secret is not much ok. nothing much to learn about it, its just really a tricky thing. :)

cheer up, for me you are the most quicker to learn here. :) ;)
That's why i'm careful giving of clues here. ;D

ive'd watch your many videos and they are very very good. :D :)

And you are kind. ;)

God bless and merry Christmass :) ;)

Otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 03, 2013, 11:03:02 PM

Quote from: Cadman on December 03, 2013, 12:12:40 PM
Tito,

One question, if you would be so kind.
You wrote "verrrrrry faaaaast make break"
Would 800 times per second be fast enough?

Thank you

That's fast but faster than that is much better. :D

in some of my design 200-300 is enough. ;) [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 03, 2013, 11:15:41 PM

Merry Christmas Teets ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 04, 2013, 02:52:26 AM

In future capacitors/condensators are printed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_dot_display (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_dot_display) like the 3-D-pixels-pictures int the 90`s
and before Claude Monets impressionistical pointing images.

Material: Avto Metals and Organic Metal=Kunststoff/Artificial textile/Plastics/Synthetical Derma
Sincerely
OCWL
p.s.: http://web-japan.org/nipponia/nipponia28/en/feature/feature01.html and later vehicle body weight and surface makes the condensator/capacitor

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 04, 2013, 03:36:56 AM

Speed of break is not important. Tesla had worked for a few years with rotary interrupter made by two opposite rotating plates with spokes. The Marconi stolen it and patented but Tesla said it is not important , more important is not the high rate of break but synchronism of two oscillator circuits. Also spark gap is a waste of power.

_{"This [Fig. 32] is another improvement in that particular device, which was the weakness of the invention and which I tried to eliminate. This device incorporated many spark gaps in series. It had a peculiar feature; namely, through the great number of gaps, I was able, as I have pointed out in my writings, to produce oscillations without even a spark being visible between the knobs. This device is now known in the art as the "quenched spark gap." Professor Wein has formulated a beautiful theory about it, which I understand has netted him the Nobel prize. Wein's theories are admirable. The only trouble is that he has overlooked one very important fact. It is this: If the apparatus is properly designed and operated, there is no use for the quenched gap, for the oscillations are continuous anyway. The radio men who came after me had the problem before them of making a bell sound, and they immersed it in mercury. Now, you know mercury is heavy. When they struck their bell, the mercury did not permit it to vibrate long because it took away all the energy. I put my bell in a vacuum and make it vibrate for hours. I have designed circuits in connection with an enterprise in 1898 for transmission of energy which, once started, would vibrate three years, and even after that the oscillations could still be detected. Professor Wein's theory is very beautiful, but it really has no practical meaning. It will become useless as soon as the inefficient apparatus of the day, with antennae that radiate energy rapidly, [are] replaced by a scientifically designed oscillator which does not give out energy except when it gets up to a tremendous electromagnetic momentum."[/size]}

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 04, 2013, 04:47:36 AM

Quote from: forest on December 04, 2013, 03:36:56 AM
Speed of break is not important. Tesla had worked for a few years with rotary interrupter made by two opposite rotating plates with spokes. The Marconi stolen it and patented but Tesla said it is not important , more important is not the high rate of break but synchronism of two oscillator circuits. Also spark gap is a waste of power.

_{"This [Fig. 32] is another improvement in that particular device, which was the weakness of the invention and which I tried to eliminate. This device incorporated many spark gaps in series. It had a peculiar feature; namely, through the great number of gaps, I was able, as I have pointed out in my writings, to produce oscillations without even a spark being visible between the knobs. This device is now known in the art as the "quenched spark gap." Professor Wein has formulated a beautiful theory about it, which I understand has netted him the Nobel prize. Wein's theories are admirable. The only trouble is that he has overlooked one very important fact. It is this: If the apparatus is properly designed and operated, there is no use for the quenched gap, for the oscillations are continuous anyway. The radio men who came after me had the problem before them of making a bell sound, and they immersed it in mercury. Now, you know mercury is heavy. When they struck their bell, the mercury did not permit it to vibrate long because it took away all the energy. I put my bell in a vacuum and make it vibrate for hours. I have designed circuits in connection with an enterprise in 1898 for transmission of energy which, once started, would vibrate three years, and even after that the oscillations could still be detected. Professor Wein's theory is very beautiful, but it really has no practical meaning. It will become useless as soon as the inefficient apparatus of the day, with antennae that radiate energy rapidly, [are] replaced by a scientifically designed oscillator which does not give out energy except when it gets up to a tremendous electromagnetic momentum."[/size]}

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I don't think so. ;D :-\

Why don't you try to make a make/break ,a simple self inductor circuit and see the difference if you try it in slow and fast make break. >:(

well, maybe it depends on what circuit you are designing. :-\
but we are talking power amplification here remember? not a frequency cleaning. :P

One thing more the faster the furious. :o ;D

otut ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 04, 2013, 06:16:02 AM

Quote from: Loner on December 04, 2013, 05:46:18 AM
Oh yes, I almost forgot.

Has everyone forgotten that static electricity is different than normal voltage in circuit operation? I just had to mention this as MANY people are forgetting the difference, and quite a few are actually reversing their properties. To put it simply, static electricity is the "Electron Charge" where voltage is the measurement of the EMF, which stands for the Electro-Motive FORCE. (Not Number of electrons...)

I just get frustrated when I see those two constantly exchanged when they really are two different things. Number of electrons piled in a spot is the resultant EFFECT of the EMF. That should make it simple to understand how voltage can move around with virtually no current. Lets keep it real, OK?

(Yes, I am ignoring magnetic effects there, but maybe someone will understand the implications?)

Oh Well, I just had to vent a bit as so few seem to grasp how voltage and current can get out of phase or be somewhat independent. To me, that seems to be a required bit of info for all of this stuff...

Again, good luck to all.

But we're not in DC circuits... most are AC.. As such, electromagnetic and electrostatic both play a role. You can't get electromagnetic from one place to another without going through electrostatic, and you cannot get electrostatic from one place to another without electromagnetic.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 04, 2013, 06:17:35 AM

1+1=couple/Paar
never heared about thermo-couple ?
How to commutate/switch themselves

Sincerely
OCWL

p.s.: somebodies are (w)right in their thinking, there is also an electron/ion wealth/world besides Edison and Tesla
Search for Nobel Prize awarded work : Physics and Chemie a-/symmetri

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 04, 2013, 06:46:45 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on December 02, 2013, 08:49:17 PM
http://www.smecc.org/winfield_salisbury.htm (http://www.smecc.org/winfield_salisbury.htm)
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=winfield+salisbury&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=winfield+salisbury&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC)
from the above list:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=32&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19600607&CC=US&NR=2939998A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=32&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19600607&CC=US&NR=2939998A&KC=A)
description page 2,line 55-72
black body= Boltzmann total( =100%) radiation absorbing body
and the Planksche Wirkungsquantum(Phonon)-Symbol
so the target is the total = photo-phono-electrical-effect converter = thermoelectric converter(condensator-array) like
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=joseph+yater (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=joseph+yater)

used also as foil-/membran-loudspeaker ;

other simple loudspeaker solution
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19880519&CC=DE&NR=3637666A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19880519&CC=DE&NR=3637666A1&KC=A1)

and from the same inventor a "netgrid-infeeder",using condensator as "filter and accumulator":
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19900104&CC=DE&NR=3821856A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19900104&CC=DE&NR=3821856A1&KC=A1)

many possibilities are publicated and easy to replicate:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=herbert+zielinski (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=herbert+zielinski)
from the above list:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19960215&CC=DE&NR=4428026A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19960215&CC=DE&NR=4428026A1&KC=A1)
skilled in this Art of Noise conversion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw7Uu32s690 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw7Uu32s690)

About the "netgrid-infeeder" (Neuheiten"-Magazin 6/88 Page 31/32) I spoke in the 90`s with Mr. Joachim Rieder and he told me that the productioncosts for a 2KW-device would be 100 DM;
today,using http://www.enthone.de/New_Technology_Development/ORMECON_Acquisition.aspx (http://www.enthone.de/New_Technology_Development/ORMECON_Acquisition.aspx) technology
Wirtschaftswoche NR.26/18.6.1998
ELEKTRONIK DRASTISCH VERKLEINERT
Leiterplatten,die mit elektronischen Bauelementen wie Widerstaenden,Kondensatoren und Mikroprozessoren bestueckt werden,lassen sich um den Faktor 10 bis 100 verkleinern,wenn sie mit einem neuen Verfahren behandelt werden.Bisher werden die geaetzten und gebohrten Platten in fluessiges Zinn getaucht,das nach einer Vorbehandlung-Auftragen eines Loetstopplacks- nur an den Stellen haftet,an denen spaeter Bauteile wie Chips oder Widerstaende befestigt werden.Die Metallklekse,die dabei entstehen,sind viel groeser und dicker als noetig,so dass der weiteren Miniaturisierung beispielsweise von Laptops und Funktelefonen enge Grenzen gesetzt sind.
Die Ormecon Chemie GmbH & Co.KG im schleswig-holsteinischen Ammersbeck uebrzieht die spaeteren Loetstellen mit einem sogenannten Organischen Metall,einem Kunststoff der Strom leitet.Die Schicht ist mit 80 Nanometern(ein Nanometer ist ein Millionstel Millimeter) extrem duenn,ihre Groesse laesst sich praezise steuern.Mit Hilfe eines chemischen Abscheideverfahrens werden die derart vorbehandelten Flaechen mit einer duennen Zinnschicht ueberzogen.Die Abstaende von zwei Bauteilen auf der Leiterplatte lassen sich durch dieses Verfahren auf ein Zehntel reduzieren: von einem auf 0,1 Millimeter. " Zitat Ende.
http://translate.google.com/?hl=de (http://translate.google.com/?hl=de)

and cheap condensator like http://www.rexresearch.com/ning/ning.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/ning/ning.htm)

I would estimate each 1KW productioncosts with 25 Euros.

Joachim Rieders 100DM(Deutsche Mark)/2KW production-costs statement to today production-costs which are 1/10 (condensator+Ormecon platine technics) means 10DM/2KW or +/- 5Euros/2KW production-costs for the netgrid-infeeder .
Market price will then be maximal +/- 50Euros/2KW included IVA/UmSt tax.
With nonstop working electricity generator ( 1 year = 8766 hours and 2KW power production) there will be enough e-power produced
and more -per household :electriciy for kitchen and heating - is not wishfull.

To understand the above :
http://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=8562 (http://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=8562)
http://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=8563 (http://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=8563)

Sincerely
OCWL
p.s.: http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dntpo.com/patents%26client%3Dopera%26hs%3DqWY%26channel%3Dsuggest%26biw%3D1329%26bih%3D525&rurl=translate.google.pt&sl=ru&u=http://www.ntpo.com/investicii-v-innovacii/alternativnye-i-netradicionnye-istochniki-jenergii/6841-generator-elektroenergii-na-postoyannyh-magnitah.html&usg=ALkJrhiyi188ohARDyohqUjDs2mwfLQ3Tw (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dntpo.com/patents%26client%3Dopera%26hs%3DqWY%26channel%3Dsuggest%26biw%3D1329%26bih%3D525&rurl=translate.google.pt&sl=ru&u=http://www.ntpo.com/investicii-v-innovacii/alternativnye-i-netradicionnye-istochniki-jenergii/6841-generator-elektroenergii-na-postoyannyh-magnitah.html&usg=ALkJrhiyi188ohARDyohqUjDs2mwfLQ3Tw)
100-200 Euros/KW production or consumer endprice by mass-production condition ?
Including http://www.rexresearch.com/markov/markov.htm advantages.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 04, 2013, 08:50:58 AM

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 04, 2013, 10:20:26 AM

Eric dollard is using only 100 cycles per second and running his car with his flux capacitor
The bifilar issue had been discussed by Tito on his first 20 posts.... loo up look up lol
Very fast and Furious RIP to Walker
The secondary coil depends on your requirement.......
totoalas :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 04, 2013, 11:29:18 AM

very fast and furious when discharged from capacitor, I believe you can do that way and the repatition of recharging discharging makes sense here - as fast as possible, but I believe there is other way also....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 04, 2013, 12:46:07 PM

Eric used Tesla vibrator 100 cycles per second 4 pole switch without electronics from military planes
12 v battery parallel with 2 parallel caps in the middle and series connection to a 24 v dc battery by adjusting contacts to 1000th of an inch it start to resonate like a tuning fork
check his yt Eric Dollard mobile flux capacitor'''''
totoalas :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 04, 2013, 07:19:59 PM

Tito:

This has to be close.
The question is, "How close?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99FeKBi-Usg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 04, 2013, 08:01:13 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 04, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
Tito:

This has to be close.
The question is, "How close?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99FeKBi-Usg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99FeKBi-Usg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkcggzRIFnY

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 04, 2013, 08:33:16 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 04, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
Tito:

This has to be close.
The question is, "How close?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99FeKBi-Usg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99FeKBi-Usg)

Interesting stuff. ;) there have been a number of these types on YT with some different configs.

What it looks like to me is the cores in and out of the spiral coil is able to have high enough induction to impede the higher freq AC of the seemingly short length of the spiral conductor. Very low ohms and not many turns. So when lighting the bulb with its own wire or nail through the core, as the freq goes up, light dims because the primary is impeding input.

But he did show that the bulb lit while across the primary also. What would have been good to see is in that config, to raise the freq and see if the bulb lights well just from the output of the amp, being that the primary is not taking on current much at high freq, the bulb would receive most of it. Also it would have been good to see the bulb alone on the amp output at high and low freq to compare. I might think that the bulb would light pretty good throughout the freq change connected direct to amp alone.

Now if the bulb lights when across the primary, it would have also been good to go through the freq sweep there also, and I think the bulb would have lost brightness going lower in freq because the primary would not be impeding as much and taking more of the current, thus less for the bulb. ;)

It is pretty cool to see conductor through the core being able to produce enough voltage to light the bulb. ??? Clearly a step down setup. ;D It does need to be investigated more. Even more than my added suggestions.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 04, 2013, 09:43:46 PM

Re 'transformer' videos

it's no surprise to me. A joule thief works with a single loop... the only requirement is that the loop pass through the toroid...

some of my first notes here... (http://www.overunity.com/11986/what-i-learned-in-joule-theif-101/)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 04, 2013, 10:08:48 PM

Voulez-vous .......

over - unity = sur - watt eur

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=danyel+beaupre&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=danyel+beaupre&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC)

faites votre jeux

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 05, 2013, 06:30:16 AM

Not to get too far off course, I ponder coil configurations and thier interactions and thought of this
If you put three solenoids together they will not all work with each other, two will but one will always be opposed but if dc is ran through two and ac ran in one the third coil will alternate and boost the dc coils alternately each half cycle.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 05, 2013, 07:17:58 AM

If we carry it further dc in outer windings and ac in the center

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 05, 2013, 07:27:43 AM

A coil power with ac radiates energy but a coil powered with dc does not, we cant just radiate energy and expect to get overunity, we have to have a configuration to collect that energy.
A coil radiates 360 degree's

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 05, 2013, 07:39:18 AM

They say even with a toroid the flux lines want to radiate 360 degree's

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 05, 2013, 04:55:03 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 04, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
Tito:

This has to be close.
The question is, "How close?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99FeKBi-Usg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99FeKBi-Usg)

With trial and error put a bolt on the contact of an ordinary relay to adjust the gap
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 05, 2013, 05:14:11 PM

(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bibliotecapleyades.net%2Ftesla%2Fcoloradonotes%2Fimages%2Fcolora109.gif&hash=ef923efcb123981ebc28b7e2ee96e4684ee01330)

Hmmmm. With igniter patent??
Hmmmm.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 05, 2013, 05:47:13 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 04, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
Tito:

This has to be close.
The question is, "How close?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99FeKBi-Usg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99FeKBi-Usg)

If you can measure the width of your single hair, that's how close it is, and that's how tricky it is. ;D

Remember: pure high voltage is nothing if you will not add a little caps. 8) ;)

That is the main reason why tesla is using small caps only on high voltages for it to become meaningful. ;)

Merry Christmas everyone.
God bless.

otits L. Noicaro. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 05, 2013, 06:59:15 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 05, 2013, 05:14:11 PM
(http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/images/colora109.gif)

Hmmmm. With igniter patent??
Hmmmm.

Teets said YES. ;) But with a 'twist'. ???

Come on TITO. Oooo bop. Lets do oo the twist. Oooo bop bop. Come on TI TO. Oooo bop. Lets do do the twist. Oooo bop bop.

The only thing I can figure is to use the Igniter pat where the cap discharges into a primary that is bifi.

Another thing Im going to try is just letting collapse current from a coil dump direct to the bifi, as its capacitance will accept the dump, but a normal coil wont accept it. ;) I think both should be tried. From the 'coil for electromagnets' pat, he declares that higher voltage more effect, something like that.

I have some SIDACs ( like a solid state spark gap) that break over at 230v. Im going to try those with my Radioshack pocket inverter. 250v ac peak from 2 AA. 160v on recommended load(electroluminecent light strips)

I used it on my Lasersaber motor replication. Can charge 10uf pretty fast. So Ill have it load a cap to about 160v, then an inductor in series with a diode, from that cap to charge a smaller cap. When the smaller cap goes to 230v, it discharges to the bifi. Something like that. :o ;D

I found the pat while searching one day. Tito had posted about it much earlier than me, as he posted so after I posted on it. It talks about gaining efficiency compared to holding 12v or 6v across the spark coil primary till the points open as more standard vehicles had. Now with ECM/ECU control the spark coils, with proper coil design the on time is short, then off, SPARK. But if you look at a standard points system, there is a cap across the points/switch. Without that cap, the spark is short and weak. But with the cap across the switch, we get oscillation with the coil primary, cap and 'battery' in a series loop when the switch across the cap opens. Its not capacitor discharge into the primary, like the Igniter pat, but there is oscilation and you can 'visually' see a longer lasting spark output due to the oscillation, something we dont get from a normal transformer. ;) I havnt seen any tests out there to check the efficiency of this oscillation compared to just the spark coil alone. Something else I have to get into. ::) ;D

When I read the pat and where it refers to more efficiency, I assumed OU. I didnt consider the huge 'inefficiency' of the old method at the time. But with a Twist, there may be something to it. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 05, 2013, 11:45:24 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 16, 2013, 04:13:55 AM
:) :) :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-PParSmwtE&playnext=1&list=PL2ix4jZAJHcR4cAJEyoUF3B3TRSVhGRRe&feature=results_main (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-PParSmwtE&playnext=1&list=PL2ix4jZAJHcR4cAJEyoUF3B3TRSVhGRRe&feature=results_main)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsqxrxVR6pk&feature=endscreen&list=PL2ix4jZAJHcR4cAJEyoUF3B3TRSVhGRRe&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsqxrxVR6pk&feature=endscreen&list=PL2ix4jZAJHcR4cAJEyoUF3B3TRSVhGRRe&NR=1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPdf3cGrqHg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPdf3cGrqHg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B61DU7yEsPM&playnext=1&list=PL36D7ABECE2AC9666 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B61DU7yEsPM&playnext=1&list=PL36D7ABECE2AC9666)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GVLnyTdqkg&list=PL36D7ABECE2AC9666 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GVLnyTdqkg&list=PL36D7ABECE2AC9666)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_239866&feature=iv&src_vid=0GVLnyTdqkg&v=526xslmO6Ds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_239866&feature=iv&src_vid=0GVLnyTdqkg&v=526xslmO6Ds)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdPoOAVAuFQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdPoOAVAuFQ)

:-*

Well Teets,
I took your advice and prayed about this, then went back through some posts. I see you've given everything... I understand now that this above post was a generous gift. I see three key ingredients coming from three key areas:
- loop antenna crystal radio
- joule theif
- TMT (from other posts)
Still have to work it out... in His good time :)
Thanks Teets.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on December 06, 2013, 12:25:06 AM

GEM=God's Electricity Machine

Free energy is so simple,
That we have missed it.

In our looking for such complex ways to fight friction costs.
We have failed to look at simple geometry
How you can multiply your rotations with changing the size of pulleys
Please remember, with electricity, more rotations is more power
don't let them scare you off with the laws of thermodynamics
I know that the Tribulation Saints will need this technology
To keep warm in our cool Canadian winters
As well as a way to cook food, and light for Bible studies

So, I asked my Father for a way to help them through the great Tribulation
Or the last half of the Tribulation
When they will find themselves hunted down and eradicated
Fire seems to be the easiest + best option
But the by-products,(light, smoke, heat signiture) would get them quickly caught

We always thought that free energy would be complex
But it's really super simple,,,
He went with something that I was familiar with
Teaching me about how a common ten speed bicycle gearing works
Showing me if you went up hill in tenth gear, (highest speed)
Then you came back down the hill in first gear, (slowest speed)
You would be paddling like crazy on the way down, lol
With electricity, more rotations equals more energy
So you are essentially multiplying you power for free

It is truly that simple

you put power into driving a DC motor only the one rotation,
and that motor is attached to a large pulley.
This large pulley turns only once,
will feed a cable or belt that can be connected to
ten or more very small pulleys, (small so that it rotates faster)
each one rotating tens to hundreds of times.
Each rotation gives you AC power. So,,,,,,,,,,,,

Your output is using pulleys to multiply your rotations = electricity AC output.
To give you a self powering AC/DC power supply
Ok guys + gals, lets start changing the world
We can start building things run on electricity anew
built with their own free energy power supply
The industries will go crazy with this
Especially the automobile industry
There is no more need to by oil
Except for lubrication in bearings,,, lol

Diagrams of some uses for this technology are at:
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on December 06, 2013, 08:26:05 AM

This thread should be deleted. There are other free energy replications out there. If u keep on following this thread, you will keep on getting misled that an ordinary capacitor will discharge and give u free energy, not only that; and power heavy load.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 06, 2013, 09:00:59 AM

Leely, it should be closed -no deleted - after the first c.e.d.-prototype DYA(gree) ?

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990720&CC=US&NR=5926083A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990720&CC=US&NR=5926083A&KC=A)
Knowledge based by automotive equipment (ignition coil circuit)compare

BTW : Permanent Magnet = Capacitive Magnet The PM-production process never interested you ?
Magnetret

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 06, 2013, 11:37:20 AM

Quote from: Leely on December 06, 2013, 08:26:05 AM
This thread should be deleted. There are other free energy replications out there. If u keep on following this thread, you will keep on getting misled that an ordinary capacitor will discharge and give u free energy, not only that; and power heavy load.

Wow! Show us your free energy device PLEASE!!!!.
We would all like to replicate it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on December 06, 2013, 11:49:58 AM

LC tank circuit with a capacitance of 2.533nF and an inductance of 10uH with a resonant frequency of 1 MHz, excited by an H-bridge +/- 1 V square wave = 400V AC @ 8A in 100us, simulated.

Theoretically with circuitry to convert that to 50 or 60 Hz a transformer could output about 14V @ 228A, ignoring circuit losses.

Anybody willing to confirm or refute this?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 06, 2013, 12:33:20 PM

Quote from: Loner on December 06, 2013, 06:57:47 AM
Magluvin

I can finally offer some info that I have done the research and testing on. With reference to the Cap on standard points ignition. This cap is ONLY for protection of the points, and to increase the speed of the open. Without this cap, the points arc more when opening, which actually slows down the rate of open....

Seeing that I have "updated" several coil systems from points to MOSFETs, I can say for certain that this is the case, in this specific example. The smallest voltage gain and plug spark comes from points with no cap. Next larger is the same points with a cap, and the best spark is with no cap, but using a MOSFET. (The nasty part has to do with the voltage rise on the primary with no plug to spark, as this lack of load creates a very high primary spike. Several auto mfg have this problem in their final amps, meaning that if you pull and insulate a plug wire, you WILL burn out the final amp transistor. I use MOV's on ALL my units.)

As to the value of the cap on points, it is specifically chosen to level the pitting of the contacts. Too little and one side pits. Too much and the other side pits. (Been too long for me to remember which side goes with which. Sorry.)

I realize I have said all this before, but as there are SO many posts out here, I just thought I should repeat myself. Designing ignition systems has become passe, as it's so simple to purchase aftermarket units these days. Hope that helps.

I have done much testing on this too. I found that while testing old spark coils at my work, not 1 of them produced as good of a spark, without the cap(.47uf 100v) than they do with the cap across the switch.
Sure it protects the points/switch. But the difference in spark is no joke. ;)

There are so many circuits out there explaining it all wrong. Like here at Hyperphysics...

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/ignition.html

Where they have the cap, it does nothing for saving the switch contacts. ;) I see many quoting that site, but that info should also be double checked. ::)

Then we have this...

http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/ignition/ig104.htm

This guy has it right. "Initial pulsating is done by connecting and disconnecting the primary circuit ground connection. Alternating current then comes into the function in a 'big way' by electrical "ringing" in the condenser at very high frequency."

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 06, 2013, 03:32:50 PM

;) without the cap the bemf will jump the points, the capacity of the cap has to be adjusted to match the points frequency. To much capacity in the cap and the cap will release its energy late, not enough capacity and the cap will release its energy too early. or explode ;D ;D ;D

Whats really interesting is the bemf comes back into the cap as high voltage, but leaves the cap as current.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 06, 2013, 04:00:30 PM

Although there is another option, which scenario do you think is happening

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 06, 2013, 06:12:49 PM

Quote from: Leely on December 06, 2013, 08:26:05 AM
This thread should be deleted. There are other free energy replications out there. If u keep on following this thread, you will keep on getting misled that an ordinary capacitor will discharge and give u free energy, not only that; and power heavy load.

I think you also delete the discoveries of tesla. :(

cause i just shared what tesla had discovered. :P

If you are really irritated with my works but you want to proceed following it, just scratch your head then proceed. ;D

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 06, 2013, 06:21:20 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 05, 2013, 06:59:15 PM
Teets said YES. ;) But with a 'twist'. ???

Come on TITO. Oooo bop. Lets do oo the twist. Oooo bop bop. Come on TI TO. Oooo bop. Lets do do the twist. Oooo bop bop.

The only thing I can figure is to use the Igniter pat where the cap discharges into a primary that is bifi.

Another thing Im going to try is just letting collapse current from a coil dump direct to the bifi, as its capacitance will accept the dump, but a normal coil wont accept it. ;) I think both should be tried. From the 'coil for electromagnets' pat, he declares that higher voltage more effect, something like that.

I have some SIDACs ( like a solid state spark gap) that break over at 230v. Im going to try those with my Radioshack pocket inverter. 250v ac peak from 2 AA. 160v on recommended load(electroluminecent light strips)

I used it on my Lasersaber motor replication. Can charge 10uf pretty fast. So Ill have it load a cap to about 160v, then an inductor in series with a diode, from that cap to charge a smaller cap. When the smaller cap goes to 230v, it discharges to the bifi. Something like that. :o ;D

I found the pat while searching one day. Tito had posted about it much earlier than me, as he posted so after I posted on it. It talks about gaining efficiency compared to holding 12v or 6v across the spark coil primary till the points open as more standard vehicles had. Now with ECM/ECU control the spark coils, with proper coil design the on time is short, then off, SPARK. But if you look at a standard points system, there is a cap across the points/switch. Without that cap, the spark is short and weak. But with the cap across the switch, we get oscillation with the coil primary, cap and 'battery' in a series loop when the switch across the cap opens. Its not capacitor discharge into the primary, like the Igniter pat, but there is oscilation and you can 'visually' see a longer lasting spark output due to the oscillation, something we dont get from a normal transformer. ;) I havnt seen any tests out there to check the efficiency of this oscillation compared to just the spark coil alone. Something else I have to get into. ::) ;D

When I read the pat and where it refers to more efficiency, I assumed OU. I didnt consider the huge 'inefficiency' of the old method at the time. But with a Twist, there may be something to it. ;D

Mags

I actually told the twist to study and that is the spark gap. :) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 06, 2013, 06:49:12 PM

Flux capacitor self charger YT

otits and all

Merry Xmas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 06, 2013, 07:06:31 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 06, 2013, 04:00:30 PM
Although there is another option, which scenario do you think is happening

On the first phase, ground satisfies both high potentials...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 06, 2013, 07:29:20 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 06, 2013, 07:06:31 PM
On the first phase, ground satisfies both high potentials...

Hmm I see, thats the classic conventional view, positive is only a very low negative potential.
So bemf is a deficient of negative electrons and not a positive flow of positrons.
;)
Oh I forgot the best one so I had to come back, voltage is pressure and current is flow ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 06, 2013, 07:48:58 PM

Lets see a collapsing magnetic field causes bemf but if bemf is captured in a capacitor then all we have is a low negative potential, so if a collapsing magnetic field is not a back flow of particles but just a low negative potential then we dont need the cap at all.
Or am I missing something ;)

But on the other hand if we take the positive energy from a collapsing magnetic field and run it through a coil the collapsing field from that coil should be a negative potential.

In high voltage air purifiers the pos electrode accumulates a neg ion cloud and the neg electrode accumulates a pos ion cloud.

Well if nothing else Iv given a different view and stimulated thought.
:) dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 06, 2013, 08:13:39 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 06, 2013, 07:29:20 PM
Hmm I see, thats the classic conventional view, positive is only a very low negative potential.
So bemf is a deficient of negative electrons and not a positive flow of positrons.
;)
Oh I forgot the best one so I had to come back, voltage is pressure and current is flow ::)

doesn't matter. the flow is the same direction if it's pointed from positive to negative or negative to postiive... it doesn't for from + to - to +.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 06, 2013, 08:17:18 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 06, 2013, 08:13:39 PM
doesn't matter. the flow is the same direction if it's pointed from positive to negative or negative to postiive... it doesn't for from + to - to +.

Cant be, - to + cant be the same as + to - have to be different particles

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 06, 2013, 09:10:32 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 06, 2013, 08:17:18 PM
Cant be, - to + cant be the same as + to - have to be different particles

didn't say anything about particles...

whatever your paradigm.... + and - interact. If you consider it's positrons (+ to -) or electrons (- to +) ... but in either case both currents go the same direction relative to themselves from one side to the other....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 06, 2013, 10:10:38 PM

Well, if we consider a picture tube from a television set, we know that electrons move from the cathode in the gun of the tube, to the positive screen in the front of the tube. Its fact. But I havnt read or heard anything about any particles coming off of the + screen in the front of the picture tube and all aligned by the deflection coils and focus them on the electron gun - cathode. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 07, 2013, 06:28:56 AM

hi everyone :)

I would like to congratulate everyone whatever knowledge you've got from what i am is posting here. :)
I am happy to all of you bro. hope you got the best. ;) :)

i will remain silent with the secret to make excitement to everyone and make the forest in virgin mode. ;)

don't loose hope the secret is very easy. and that is truth. :)

The sucking action in the environment is happening in the spark gap, you need to modify it. :)
or else the source will die quickly. :)

Next time if i'm in good mood, i will share one of my best discovery : "The Power of Two"
This is very easy, very practical and absolutely can be done by everyone.
There is no switching in this tech. ;) 8)

merry Christmas
God Bless :)

otits :P why tongue?, nothing, just want to irritate you. That's who i am ;D hehehehehehe

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 07, 2013, 07:18:12 AM

Merry Christmas everyone :)
I really enjoy these discussions and everyone's opinions maybe someday we will find the answer.

So if classical science has it right and there are only negative electrons moving through a system then by the model we have been investigating bemf creates a low negative potential that would mean a coil creates a sucking action when transferring energy to another coil.

Spark Gap
When the sun releases a solar flare (spark gap) the earths magnetic field carry's the energy into the core so placement of the spark gap or multiple spark gaps in relation to the device your playing with may be important.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 07, 2013, 07:26:17 AM

a tip from Tariel Kapanadze : don't let the impulse die
I think it must work like two-stroke engine

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 07, 2013, 07:32:33 AM

Iv been thinking about Tesla's ozone patent and the Kapanadze device, if the first winding on the coil former were of thin wire, like a Tesla coil, you could strip the wire and run inside the air core one end on one side and the other end on the other side the full length of the core, this would ionize the core, might get a pos effect.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 07, 2013, 07:49:09 AM

Something like this ;)
You might even get some plasma action going on, plasma core I like the sound of that ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 07, 2013, 08:06:11 AM

This is a bifilar wound center taped coil run with the Mazzili circuit, Im actually getting pretty good light output for air core.
Im going to wind a small gauge coil under it to ionize the core and see if it helps.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 07, 2013, 08:08:02 AM

Kapanadze does not need a spark gap. I think Tito's playing with us cos we're getting too close.
Tesla, however sometimes uses a spark gap, but in a different way.
It's in the Colorado spring notes.
Everything is there including the bifilar winding.
Benitez in his 1914 to 1918 patents shows the use of a spark gap as an energy
amplifier.
I call it stochastic mixing.
We'll get there Tito.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 07, 2013, 08:25:47 AM

http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/Carlos_Benitez_-_Abstracts_and_redraws.pdf (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/Carlos_Benitez_-_Abstracts_and_redraws.pdf)

There, Tito, I've taught you something.

I've had the Benitez system working for some time.

FROM TITO'S OLD POSTS:

ok! in my latest experiment and that is experiment #12, I just use 3 blanks, 2 diodes, 2 caps and i got succeed in a controllable voltage i want.

note in this setup there is : no coil, no extra coil, no pulsing, no transformer.

This is very simple but dangerous in nature.

in experiment #11 i made use of 1 primary 2 extra coil, 12 diodes a computer fan a lot of coils. bulky in nature thats why i'm not satisfied. so i made an improvement. but no spark gap, with silent explosion tech.

in exp #10 i used 4 zeners, 5 electrolytic caps, 2 diodes, alternate switching tech, with improved spark gap tech. with lots of bulky transformer

in exp #9 input is signal from atmosphere then amplified using 3 coils and 4
caps. its like a tpu.

and the other previous experiments are just an improvement of different inventions of our fellow experimenters, i'm not interested with those. just made them for fun.

note in all: no free energy to all designs if the tesla energy amplifier is missing!
I think the right term for it is "Controllable Uncontrolled Spontaneous action"

Merry Christmas.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 07, 2013, 08:53:47 AM

So if bemf causes a low neg potential on the cap maybe we can give it something to pull from besides the power source, either an antenna or ground wire.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 07, 2013, 08:56:34 AM

Times goes slowly....
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatikuhr (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatikuhr) small
http://www.rexresearch.com/constantinesco2/constantinesco.htm greater

Bom Appetite
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 07, 2013, 12:45:20 PM

Just kick the core and it Will have the same multiplying effect :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 07, 2013, 02:46:52 PM

Quote from: totoalas on December 07, 2013, 12:45:20 PM
Just kick the core and it Will have the same multiplying effect :)

::) ??? >:( ;D :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 07, 2013, 04:33:55 PM

I recently ran into Vortex water generators; and could use some feedback.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPIWSVhVHL0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPIWSVhVHL0)

I'll start another thread (http://www.overunity.com/14087/water-vortex-generator/msg378843/#msg378843)

1) is the power of a vortex more than the water? Such that if you have a large water wheel , can it produce 10KW?

http://www.zotloeterer.com/ (http://www.zotloeterer.com/)

I went to their site and they have various forms from 0.5Kw to 70Kw... 10Kw is 6M diameter 1.2M drop with a flow rate of 1.2 m^3/sec.

the mass is only 1KW? In horsepower... foot-pounds of water/min ... think I mentioned that before.

....

I made some sample vortex generator things uing styrofoam bowls with a (I dunno) 3/8" hole in the bottom....
I used a long plastic bottle with a hole and a tube extended off the bottom, and could get a stronger vortex with more 'pull'(?)

is this a vortex impeller?
Tri-lobe schist (type of rock) bowl; egyptian 1st dynasty

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 07, 2013, 06:07:38 PM

Speaking of vortex technology's I dont have access to large amounts of water so Iv been designing a new coil ;D
I havent hooked it up yet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 08, 2013, 02:10:22 AM

Quote from: forest on December 07, 2013, 07:26:17 AM
a tip from Tariel Kapanadze : don't let the impulse die
I think it must work like two-stroke engine

Bingo!!! ;D

What is the difference if ive'd said it this way: "Don't Let the momentum die" ??? :-\
The important use of the capacitor in our device is to Prolong the Oscillation ok! 8)
Sometimes you are a sharp shooter. That's what i like to you ;D

@A.king
I already told that everything is in jumble info but everything is truth. ;)
I also told how close everyone is.
No!, i call this rheumatic maglalatik mixing. ;D ;D ;D
but don't worry i will not close the door. cause the door has a back door of totoalaskador ;D
shopping shopping muna pag may time. ;D ;D ;D

B.QUEEN ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 08, 2013, 02:30:28 AM

Quote from: totoalas on December 07, 2013, 12:45:20 PM
Just kick the core and it Will have the same multiplying effect :)

Kick my ass too and it will have the same sub division effect ;D joke hehehehehehehe

To make an avalantz in our might we only need very small energy but with in our full control ;)

Titoalaskador ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 08, 2013, 04:48:42 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 08, 2013, 02:30:28 AM

Kick my ass too and it will have the same sub division effect ;D joke hehehehehehehe

To make an avalantz in our might we only need very small energy but with in our full control ;)

Titoalaskador ;D

Para yang puto bumbong singaw at tak tak

even when my flux cap is off from 10. 07 v and up to 12.68 v in 12 hrs without load

the previous day its 9 v due to .72 amps of load from my jr running for 24 hours non stop
need to test more ....

totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 08, 2013, 06:35:26 AM

The sum of all vibratory oscillations is ever higher than the initial input = soldiers never should do they march in "Gleichschritt" over a bridge
Sincerely
OCWL

p.s.: Merry C(h)ristmess : Santa (Ni-)Clause 6.December

Lucy/Lucia-Lichtmess=Sonnenwende
( Reformator Carol Wojtyla Joh.Pavel 2nd : http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Paul_II.
Sonne,Mond,Sterne ? Franziskus d.A )

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciafest (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciafest)

3Weisen/Reis 6.Januar Spanien: Bescherung
https://www.google.pt/search?q=3+weisen+aus+dem+morgenland&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=7FukUtm3FM3PsgbhgYHICQ&ved=0CDEQsAQ&biw=1362&bih=525 (https://www.google.pt/search?q=3+weisen+aus+dem+morgenland&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=7FukUtm3FM3PsgbhgYHICQ&ved=0CDEQsAQ&biw=1362&bih=525)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 08, 2013, 10:29:12 AM

I think to make free energy we must understand the very basic interactions between a coils magnetic field and capacitor, in order for the cap to become pos on one plate a coil has to suck the electrons from that plate create a deficient (according to conventional theory).
So this is what has to be happening

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 08, 2013, 10:33:31 AM

If the conventional theory is correct then we should see this interaction on the secondary, Im sorry to say we dont and we can see this with a very simple experiment.
If the model above were correct the meter should never fall into the pos range but have only a neg reaction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD6NjIDs4DU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD6NjIDs4DU)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 08, 2013, 11:38:13 AM

Me and my crazy theory's

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 08, 2013, 03:02:03 PM

@dave45

a collapsing field doesn't make the current reverse.

1) Initiially an inductor opposes a change (resistance to acceleration)
2) then an inductor mtaintains a same current (body in motion remains in motion)
3) then when the current starts to diminish, the coil collapse wants to keep the current going in the same direction

back EMF is the force against the initial current increase... (1)
forward EMF is the force that keeps the current going (3)

field collapse doesn't not mean current in reverse

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 08, 2013, 03:16:51 PM

@dave45a collapsing [color=rgb(27, 142, 222) !important]field[/color] doesn't make the current reverse.

Yes it does . Do the experiment.
It also raises voltage.
Do the experiment.
It's called radiant energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 08, 2013, 03:18:59 PM

Tito:

How about a Christmas present to us all with a big clue?

Merry Christmas.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 08, 2013, 04:17:46 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 08, 2013, 03:16:51 PM
@dave45a collapsing [color=rgb(27, 142, 222) !important]field[/color] doesn't make the current reverse.

Yes it does . Do the experiment.
It also raises voltage.
Do the experiment.
It's called radiant energy.

Does it?
Let's try and make a figure.

Power -> coil -> switch-> ground ... +(power) -> +(power end of coil) -> +(low end of coil) -> (open) -> 0
(close switch, and electron current will pass from higher - to satisfy the vacuum of +)

+ -> + -> - -> 0 -> 0

current flows to the left; no reversal yet

(open the switch )

+ -> (less than +) -> (growing to +) -> (open) -> 0
+ -> (up to positive) -> (grows past the + point) -> (open) -> 0

now at THIS point, the potential at + power is less than the potential at the end of the coil nearest the switch, at this point, current will flow backwards through the coil. But at this point the field has entirely collapsed, and a new field is built.

That experiment isn't about current reversal in the primary coil....

so given two parallel lines... change in current (increase) causes a reverse pull of current in near filaments; until the current is constant, then the displacement stops.
When the current stops, it causes a reverse current in near filaments as the induction wants to keep going forward, so it leverages against near things in the opposite direction. The current in the primary never reversed.

So when dealing with a secondary inductor it's whether your primary current is rising or falling that determines direction in the secondary.

If the secondary is open ( not conducting), it only has a very tiny capacitance, so it will shift a little, but most of the reverse current pull will be back on the primary itself. This leads to more work being done to get the current going while the load is disconnected. Connecting a load allows the primary to leverage against the secondary, and impede itself less.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 08, 2013, 04:25:22 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 08, 2013, 03:02:03 PM
@dave45

a collapsing field doesn't make the current reverse.

1) Initiially an inductor opposes a change (resistance to acceleration)
2) then an inductor mtaintains a same current (body in motion remains in motion)
3) then when the current starts to diminish, the coil collapse wants to keep the current going in the same direction

back EMF is the force against the initial current increase... (1)
forward EMF is the force that keeps the current going (3)

field collapse doesn't not mean current in reverse

If we switch on a power source to a coil, the mag field builds. When we disconnect the source, does the field collapse cause negative or positive current in reference to the source current?

I say forward, initially. ;) If we use a diode and cap to capture the collapse, like in a basic switching power supply. If we place the diode and cap in a series loop, and apply a source across the coil then disconnect it, the field collapse will charge the cap. Right? Say the source is 10v, and we get 20v into the cap, just as an example. Not impossible. Right? Now, reverse the diode. :o Use a non polarized cap for these experiments, or reverse the electrolyitic cap accordingly with diode bias direction.

Now when we reversed the diode(and cap if electrolytic) on the coil, using the same source polarity, we still get greater than source voltage into the cap. :o Why is that? Granted, when we configure the diode and cap across the coil to capture forward collapse current, the source is not getting direct connection to the cap when across the coil. So no source current enters the cap because the diode is not biased in that polarity. So the cap has no charge till the source is disconnected.

But, when we reverse the diode, the cap and diode are biased in line with the source, and the cap charges to 10v while the coil is taking on source current. But when the source is disconnected, the cap ends up with more voltage than the source. :o :o :o How can that be?? ;)

If the coil collapse current is the same direction as when the source was connected, then how did the cap get charged, even higher than the source voltage, with an actual 'reverse emf'??? The diode is a one way street, so no glitches here.

I had found this while working on a pulse motor. I was using a cap and diode to capture from my drive coils. It was working fine. Checking the voltage on the cap and it was well above source voltage. But when I had my meter on the cap continuously for some testings, I noticed that my cap was filled to source voltage right when I connected my source. ??? Well that cant be right. The rotor was in a locked position but the reed was closed. Being that I knew that the diode should not be in the bias on position with the switch, I reversed the diode and I still got higher than source in the cap. ;)

My only explanation could be that the coils collapse, if it does not get loaded while collapsing, goes into a reverse collapse by bouncing off of the coils own tiny self capacitance, thus being able to actually go into full reversal, due to LC oscillation in the coil. But upon reversal, the diode is now biased and the collapse can now enter the cap.

It works on Falstad sim also. The first circuit running when you start the sim, just change out the upright wire on the left of the circuit with a diode, and then reverse the diode. Notice what happens to the cap each time on the scopes below on the sim. ;)

Weird isnt it? ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 08, 2013, 04:37:16 PM

d3Xor

OK then.

Here is a simple question.
An ne2 bulb has a strike voltage of 80 to 100 volts.

Is it possible to light an ne2 bulb using
1 a single coil (2 ohms up) (no secondary)
2 a 1.5v volt AA battery?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 08, 2013, 04:44:53 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 08, 2013, 04:25:22 PM

If we switch on a power source to a coil, the mag field builds. When we disconnect the source, does the field collapse cause negative or positive current in reference to the source current?

I say forward, initially. ;) If we use a diode and cap to capture the collapse, like in a basic switching power supply. If we place the diode and cap in a series loop, and apply a source across the coil then disconnect it, the field collapse will charge the cap. Right? Say the source is 10v, and we get 20v into the cap, just as an example. Not impossible. Right? Now, reverse the diode. :o Use a non polarized cap for these experiments, or reverse the electrolyitic cap accordingly with diode bias direction.

Now when we reversed the diode(and cap if electrolytic) on the coil, using the same source polarity, we still get greater than source voltage into the cap. :o Why is that? Granted, when we configure the diode and cap across the coil to capture forward collapse current, the source is not getting direct connection to the cap when across the coil. So no source current enters the cap because the diode is not biased in that polarity. So the cap has no charge till the source is disconnected.

But, when we reverse the diode, the cap and diode are biased in line with the source, and the cap charges to 10v while the coil is taking on source current. But when the source is disconnected, the cap ends up with more voltage than the source. :o :o :o How can that be?? ;)

If the coil collapse current is the same direction as when the source was connected, then how did the cap get charged, even higher than the source voltage, with an actual 'reverse emf' ??? The diode is a one way street, so no glitches here.

Because, you previuosly were going from a electron surplus to an electron deficit ... when you remove the ability to have a supluss, you genereate a deficit (a higher positive)... which is a continuing forward motion... it's similar to momentum or inertia...

a spring attached at the end of a body that is in motion will continue to extend the string, imparting more potential... excessive to the source; because inductance is the mass... the more the inductance the heavier the board, for a certain speed (current) you will get more or less stress on the spring

if your cap was already partially charged; you would have less of a gain. The diode allows the current to start, until it doesn;t, at which point the current wants to keep going forward... but you started pushing the board (got it up to speed), then stopped... which then the spring(capacitor) is tensed by the continuing current.

-- edit
so maybe that's not right about the cap.
But; intially pushing the board, does happen with/through the spring, it's not a rigid motion... the coil mass will push back on the cap and make a lower potential than the voltage supply (back EMF, the first motion)... it will compress the spring slightly.... but somehow they are also tied together because the current flow inducer encompasses the system... pushing on both the spring and the board...

actually... the spring has to always be in a tensed state... oh no it doesn't, first effect would be ground satisfying the cap, just because 1) it's resistive path is lower... less 1/T... 2) unless the coil's ... I guess this is inductive reactance... inductance/mass is lower than some amount... the capacitor will give first... so at the top end of the coil the potential should go to +V or G depending on which you're looking at. so really there could be a force back on the cap to make it a negative potential (I'm still working in the framework of the ground-switched ignition coil; but multiply by -1 everything, if on the other side) ... continuing is still continuing, and relative directions will be self consistent

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 08, 2013, 05:20:23 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 08, 2013, 04:37:16 PM
d3Xor

OK then.

Here is a simple question.
An ne2 bulb has a strike voltage of 80 to 100 volts.

Is it possible to light an ne2 bulb using
1 a single coil (2 ohms up) (no secondary)
2 a 1.5v volt AA battery?

Yes. Without reversing the current.
maybe not; a AA batter is current limited. The coil inductance would have to be very large, which, without very large conductors to reduce the resistance per length; which increases capacitance per length... and requires more current.

So No. there is a limit to the power of an AA battery...
maybe... given enough time; but with too much time, self inductance will cancel the current also...

Yes, if I can replace the battery with a super cap charged to 1.2V with the same (or less) Joules stored.... because the current isn't as limited.

Excessive current on the AA will create a notable Heat reaction, which will accelerate the current it can produce, which produces more heat, and that will be another limiting point.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 08, 2013, 05:25:33 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 08, 2013, 04:44:53 PM
Because, you previuosly were going from a electron surplus to an electron deficit ... when you remove the ability to have a supluss, you genereate a deficit (a higher positive)... which is a continuing forward motion... it's similar to momentum or inertia...

a spring attached at the end of a body that is in motion will continue to extend the string, imparting more potential... excessive to the source; because inductance is the mass... the more the inductance the heavier the board, for a certain speed (current) you will get more or less stress on the spring

if your cap was already partially charged; you would have less of a gain. The diode allows the current to start, until it doesn;t, at which point the current wants to keep going forward... but you started pushing the board (got it up to speed), then stopped... which then the spring(capacitor) is tensed by the continuing current.

-- edit
so maybe that's not right about the cap.
But; intially pushing the board, does happen with/through the spring, it's not a rigid motion... the coil mass will push back on the cap and make a lower potential than the voltage supply (back EMF, the first motion)... it will compress the spring slightly.... but somehow they are also tied together because the current flow inducer encompasses the system... pushing on both the spring and the board...

actually... the spring has to always be in a tensed state... oh no it doesn't, first effect would be ground satisfying the cap, just because 1) it's resistive path is lower... less 1/T... 2) unless the coil's ... I guess this is inductive reactance... inductance/mass is lower than some amount... the capacitor will give first... so at the top end of the coil the potential should go to +V or G depending on which you're looking at. so really there could be a force back on the cap to make it a negative potential (I'm still working in the framework of the ground-switched ignition coil; but multiply by -1 everything, if on the other side) ... continuing is still continuing, and relative directions will be self consistent

Not sure if you understand what I was getting at. Im not claiming any gain with it. Its just valuable info that shows other avenues to possibly explore, and may have a particular good use.

In the falstad sim, the transformers have some capacitance programmed in. They can oscillate.

Infact, if someone tries the circuit suggestion I gave on the sim, with the diode reversed, if you watch the coil on the scope, it swings to kilovolts due to no load while going into full magnetic and electrical full reversal, compared to a normal collapse current as we know it. ;)

Below is pics of each diode direction functioning. The scope shots are the inductor left, capacitor right.

The first pic is the diode set up to capture forward collapse currents from the coil. Like using a diode as a snubber that directs the collapse currents back into the coil and it dies there. Here we have a cap in series with the diode, and the capacitor is charged only by the coil collapse.

In the second shot, I exchange the diodes. We see the cap being charged(through the 100ohm resistor) and when the switch is released, the cap continues to charge further by the coil collapse current, which must have had a reversal in order to do so. ;)

Notice the high voltage the coil reaches during reversal, where it has no load to discharge into. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 08, 2013, 05:33:51 PM

Sorry, My pics above are not in order according to my post. The one labled normal collapse is suppose to be first, then the one with the high voltage on the inductors scope shot on the left.

I tried to fix it, but I am in moderation for arguments with Milehigh. So I have limited functionality at the moment. ::)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 08, 2013, 05:49:52 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 08, 2013, 05:20:23 PM
Yes. Without reversing the current.
maybe not; a AA batter is current limited. The coil inductance would have to be very large, which, without very large conductors to reduce the resistance per length; which increases capacitance per length... and requires more current.

So No. there is a limit to the power of an AA battery...
maybe... given enough time; but with too much time, self inductance will cancel the current also...

Yes, if I can replace the battery with a super cap charged to 1.2V with the same (or less) Joules stored.... because the current isn't as limited.

Excessive current on the AA will create a notable Heat reaction, which will accelerate the current it can produce, which produces more heat, and that will be another limiting point.

Quit posting bollox on this site and do the experiment.
No cap. Nothing else.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 08, 2013, 05:50:07 PM

Re Mass and 'physical' models

I've really been trying to conceive of hydrodynamic equivalents instead...

A pipe of a certain diameter is a resistor... it limits the flow of current for a certain pressure (voltage)
Air bubbles are capacitance ( water hammer vertical resevoirs )

The mass of water itself is inductance. (working theory)

Sometimes there's boundary conditions in the current.

If I have to pipes of different diameter, I get a large capacity to a low capacity. Usually, I get a mass flow. Basically a bunch of junk (jumbled up particles without order) just is shoved through the pipes.
Sometimes, I get a vortex effect that will extend from the top pipe all the way to the lower pipe. This changes the effective flow through both.

90% of the time the apparatus empties before votecing. This is the 99% of electrical engineering that is worked within. If there is a cavitation, where vaporization happens within the system, then vortexing can happen....

1% of the time, and I have no clue how to stimulate it ... I've have a vortexing of water... at a high pressure. It often happens when the currents are very low... (lighter, less mass flowing)

which is an interaction between atomsphere and the water medium, changes the flow characteristics of the (inductive medium if that mass...)

but then a pipe is also a large coil (inductor)

maybe there's a better restrictive thing.

a diode:
A Ratcheting mechanism... where if a mechanism does no work against another, and then latches in the other direction to impart motion... a check valve in a hydraulic system.. a simple ball of larger diameter. This ball will be self stabilizing because of coanda effects... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uArp20XjH-o

I guess most of hydraulic systems then are EMF based; a perspective of induction; So electrostatics don't apply so much.

Oh... Is Vortexing the thing that allows a reverse action in another coil inductor? (coil? )

Transformers I almost got for mechanical... but how does one flow next to another flow affect this system? Maybe there is no transformer? Although I can attach a tesla turbine in one flow, and an axel to another turbine in another flow and use an external force for leverage....

So also vortexing will be destroyed with an AC system.... unless it happens within the time of the cycle of the AC... so the process must be exact; that is every time voltage changes, a good vortex is formed. But it's not like I can put current into the side of a resistor? Make snaking banks like viktor schauberger's log flume.... a lot like a bobsled where you spend most time in the corners... if there's water in it, there's more mass keeping logs from the side... and when he changes the water that flowed it was from the side instead of from the end....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 08, 2013, 05:53:10 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 08, 2013, 05:49:52 PM
Quit posting bollox on this site and do the experiment.
No cap. Nothing else.

Okay but the point is ; where are you going with that?

In practice yes; do I get a core? do I get to have a switch? Well I guess I can just tap the end of the battery with a lead... Does it have to remain lit long enough to be perceived or can I show an instance of where it should have lit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRQL6_pNu58 (processing, but it's 30 seconds or smoething)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 08, 2013, 06:34:38 PM

Quote from: Loner on December 08, 2013, 06:16:29 PM
Just to add to the previous concept. Current limiting on the battery is not a problem if the coil has enough inductance. If you allow a third connection to the coil (Autotransformer), then the neon can be used as a switch, increasing the output drastically. The circuit could even be made to oscillate, increasing the neon output to the "Burnout" point. Without that, the best you could hope for would be a flash as the battery drain limit WOULD determine the minimum inductance, and hence the required charge time.

Old style ignition circuits (1920's and the start of 30's) used a single coil to produce the spark for gasoline engines. Of course there was anywhere from 4 to 10 Amps required, but that is only because of the minimum cycle time req'd. A 1.5 volt battery could do the same thing, as long as you didn't need more than 1 fire per minute or so. (I would need to do some math to give an exact minimum charge time for a fully charged AA cell, and this charge time would be good for 1 to 2 charges, and then would increase as the cell died. Even saying that is a guess. It might work 20-30 times. Best way to find out would be a test.)

I hope this provides some food for thought.

only if you add inductance by adding a core. the wire mechanism itself will exceed current capacity of the AA. No matter how many turns I used (increased inductance) it wouldn't light.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 08, 2013, 06:35:48 PM

I will retract a little;
The current in near wires (primary/secondary etc near windings) will be in the same direction. I got + and - potential and current flow confused at one point and have until now conveyed that; saying the forward current leveraged against near, causing a reverse current.

edit: unless of course, the coils are counter wound...

I was hesitant to start the expirament; for lack of information... inevitably there will be something wrong with what I've done. Too many leads; no soldered parts... etc etc.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 08, 2013, 06:47:52 PM

I made some posts here http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg378964/#msg378964

They were not posted due to me being on moderation here.
So the posts dont appear till they are approved. So some might miss them later. Ill hold of from posting till Stefan figures out what to do with me.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 08, 2013, 06:54:09 PM

The ne2 bulb will also tell you the polarity.

The lit side is negative.
If both sides light up you have ac.
Simply energize the coil with the battery and release.
The bemf will reverse polarity and soar to over 100v.

Maybe now you realize that Dave 45 was correct.
I respect him, he's done a huge number of experiments including freezing a coil to see the lines of force.
To maintain the ne2 you need a Tesla switch.
When I demoed this to a retired British Telecom engineer he realized he knew nothing about radiant energy.
Sorry for the irritation. I guess you are well meaning.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 08, 2013, 07:10:15 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 08, 2013, 06:54:09 PM
The ne2 bulb will also tell you the polarity.

The lit side is negative.
If both sides light up you have ac.
Simply energize the coil with the battery and release.
The bemf will reverse polarity and soar to over 100v.

Maybe now you realize that Dave 45 was correct.
I respect him, he's done a huge number of experiments including freezing a coil to see the lines of force.
To maintain the ne2 you need a Tesla switch.
When I demoed this to a retired British Telecom engineer he realized he knew nothing about radiant energy.
Sorry for the irritation. I guess you are well meaning.

I guess your circuit works also; you don't get as much power to flow across the neon, since it's the positive satisfying the positive left by the current continuing to flow through the coil... so it's offset by 1.2V (1.54? whatever)

Edit: I don't mean to do the worst thing possible; challenge one's beliefs... or even bring into question for clarification... I don't mean offense; it's not in the art of trolling for posting just to post.

I respect all of you equally, some more than others ( I don't know how I got to be 'senior member' because I'll be forever noob). But none less.... Verpies for instance... I have to remember to be clear in stating what I did know and what specifically I was questioning...

Maybe I should be more direct about when I mean to state that the respect for someone is slipping (Like Tito; but that was easily fixed) and when I just mean to challenge the belief in view of what I know is happening from experimentation...

Yes frozen coils are cool; but I get the same in a bottle of water; if I freeze it in an insulator I get less fractures; and the last part of the ice is the core, which always freezes last... so it's an artifact of ice being smaller than water when frozen, so the later things to freeze end up occupying less volume and simulating a frozen vortex. Was it energized? was there some indicator in the water that was affected by the (DC) field; (because and AC field would destroy any alignment... except at the instance it froze, although it may introduce turbidity and keep it from freezing until it gets to a lower tempurature, and make a cleaner crystal

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 08, 2013, 08:46:15 PM

Alternating current

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 08, 2013, 10:04:19 PM

So: one more time.
Back emf causes a radiant spike which REVERSES the voltage and MULTIPLIES the voltage a hundred fold.

Couldn't be simpler than that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 08, 2013, 10:33:09 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 08, 2013, 10:04:19 PM
So: one more time.
Back emf causes a radiant spike which REVERSES the voltage and MULTIPLIES the voltage a hundred fold.

Couldn't be simpler than that.

forward emf actually... because it's on the disconnect.
multiply is not a good word... allows a short pulse of high voltage...

the voltage at an end is 'negative' of that end I guess... and definately the current is still in the same direction.

radiant spike; a quickly collapsing EM field.... joule thieves are radiant spike devices then?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 08, 2013, 10:51:41 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 08, 2013, 10:33:09 PM
forward emf actually... because it's on the disconnect.
multiply is not a good word... allows a short pulse of high voltage...

the voltage at an end is 'negative' of that end I guess... and definately the current is still in the same direction.

radiant spike; a quickly collapsing EM field.... joule thieves are radiant spike devices then?

I give up.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 09, 2013, 12:51:03 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 08, 2013, 03:18:59 PM
Tito:

How about a Christmas present to us all with a big clue?

Merry Christmas.

Here is your BIG CLUE: THE ELECTRICITY IS DUAL IN NATURE ;) 8)

YOU SHOULD GOT IT!!! >:( ;D

MERRY NEW YEAR :D :D :D

ETITS L. NOICARO ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 09, 2013, 01:19:32 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 08, 2013, 10:51:41 PM
I give up.

With a sentiment like that you somehow thinking we're not on the same page....

Lenz's Law was that back EMF is a counter force resisting current... I see there isn't really a 'forward EMF' term? That makes sense... both sides could be called backEMF.... since the original law only states '...' maybe it states nothing, so it must be based in other places. Back EMF is the result of a forward current, and a rising EM field. A stable EM field/current does not really have back EMF. When the current is disengaged, the current will want to continue forward; the magnetic field doesn't just suddenly go from N->S... it tapers off form Stored EM to 0;

At what point do you think the current is reversing?

At the point that it's a measurablely HUGE voltage? why did it wait so long before reversing? No... at a certain potential the neon dielectric breaks, and begins conducting, the current goes through the neon... what's the coil doing? Probably still going forward to supply a length of current to the bulb.

If you inject CSRs along the whole thing... where is the potential high and low? Which direction does that say about the current? Observation changes it, because you add a capacitance that is going to counteract changes also...

Where is the voltage low? What is happening at the point until the point that it is high? current came back towards the source? Adding more of the source type to the source... - + - = -... + + + = + - no inversion.... no... it is removing the source type, making it more like the other side..... + tending towards -; and additionally more - than the original source. If the coil was left entirely open, you would have a maximum of voltage released in the shortest time; but with nowhere to go... to the parasitic capacitance of the coil itself and it radiates.

Edit; Sorry, another retraction... it doesn't matter which side you disconnect and leave remaining, the same power will happen.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on December 09, 2013, 01:51:20 AM

Don't give up yet!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 09, 2013, 02:05:44 AM

Everything around is light, why electricity should be some different ? ::) It only differs in pushing electrons.
Don Smith correctly described it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 09, 2013, 05:37:25 AM

TK - you are the master builder.
Tito is like the master magician.
Forest is like the master professor.
I haven't given up building.
Just given up arguing.
I've had 300 watts ou through the Benitez 4 battery system and learnt a lot.
But from Tito I've learnt a lot more.
There are certain things which Tito says which echo what Kapanadze has told me
in innocent ways.
I am here to loop the system.
The problem with the Benitez system is that you are limited to the c20 discharge-charge rate.
But Tito's the man.
Or rather Tito's understanding of Tesla.
I can honestly say that for the first time I now understand Tesla.
And Tesla is on a different planet, compared to today's electrical knowledge.
The Colorado Spring notes are over 100 years ahead of their time.
So it's charge and discharge the Tesla way from now on.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 09, 2013, 06:59:59 AM

Is The bemf from the cw coil the same polarity as the bemf from a ccw coil, even though its spin is in the same direction its movement relative to the circuit is opposite.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 09, 2013, 07:23:20 AM

thought experiments ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bbem on December 09, 2013, 07:34:29 AM

Quote from: forest on December 09, 2013, 02:05:44 AM
Everything around is light, why electricity should be some different ? ::) It only differs in pushing electrons.
Don Smith correctly described it.

At 4:30 minutes DS describes hot and cold electricity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pk4HWwb88E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pk4HWwb88E)
(IMHO it is worth watching both videos)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 09, 2013, 07:44:23 AM

Everything is relative and probably could we worked out mathematically but Im a laymen and need to see to understand.

If you face the cap on one side the bemf enters the cap cw, if you face the other side of the cap it enters ccw........... but they are still spinning in the same direction, is the polarity the same or opposite.

Only hands on experiments will tell the tel

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on December 09, 2013, 08:53:19 AM

Wow! This thread is lighting up again, thanks to master otis and others who are sharing their talents to spread this knowledge! Keep it up guys! I salute to you all!

Merry christmas!
Cc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 09, 2013, 09:58:49 AM

Energy is more than "only" Energy : INFORMATION

http://www.keelynet.com/news/120913c.html (http://www.keelynet.com/news/120913c.html)
http://www.rexresearch.com/kanchzhen/kanchzhen.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/kanchzhen/kanchzhen.htm)
and

http://www.rexresearch.com/crosse/crosse.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/crosse/crosse.htm)

http://www.youtube.com/embed/1zdPN7zIl5Q (http://www.youtube.com/embed/1zdPN7zIl5Q)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 09, 2013, 12:09:40 PM

Tito: In your 1 kw device can you tell us the length of your primary wire approximately?
I am trying to get an understanding of Kapanadze tech, as you know.
I am actually wondering approximately how many turns are needed.

Your insight is much appreciated.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 09, 2013, 12:13:20 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 08, 2013, 10:33:31 AM
If the conventional theory is correct then we should see this interaction on the secondary, Im sorry to say we dont and we can see this with a very simple experiment.
If the model above were correct the meter should never fall into the pos range but have only a neg reaction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD6NjIDs4DU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD6NjIDs4DU)

The galvanometer, when attached by a coil to another coil is a measuring device for the change in current in the primary.

1) first state, everything 0; and for further purposes I'll use 0 for - DC side
2) the current begins to flow, which induces a current in the same direction in the other side. Generating one side towards + and one side towards 0.
3) the current is stable, and no induction happens on the secondary, so the galvanometer goes to 0
4) the current begins to stop, which will induce an opposite current in the secondary.

they are opposite (at rise and at fall), as demonstrated in the video.... (Edit: the first current in the secondary is in the opposite direction... if the a bifilar coil is used, and 0 on one side and + on the other, a rising current from 0 to + will result in + on the secondary on the same side... which is a reversed current.)

But a + (in the correct polarity) would indicate rising current and a - a falling current... and 0 doesn't mean there is current or is not current in the primary.

Edit2: what's interesting is...
1) the first reaction is both sides go slightly high, then the low side dips low and then levels at a low... and opposite at the other side, so there's an initial dip low right when the current starts reversing (both going in same direction of voltage change)... I think that's probably the capacitance of the coil... the electrostatic charging/discharging on the low side
2) the voltage hold time... would think it should ring back into the coil instead of staying high... (may be coil characteristic) the only decay is a very slow slope from the resistance to ground in the probe

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 09, 2013, 12:43:17 PM

Stupify made a suggestion earlier about two secondary's sandwiching the primary.
This may be a good idea, the inner secondary to catch femf and the outer secondary to catch the bemf.

I wonder if this would work on the mazzili circuit setup, three coils on each side, one primary on each side and two secondary's on each side.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 09, 2013, 01:15:16 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 09, 2013, 12:43:17 PM
Stupify made a suggestion earlier about two secondary's sandwiching the primary.
This may be a good idea, the inner secondary to catch femf and the outer secondary to catch the bemf.

I wonder if this would work on the mazzili circuit setup, three coils on each side, one primary on each side and two secondary's on each side.

sure; if you weren't already capturing 100% of the field, you could capture more, but if you're already above 50%, you'll see losses on both... if you're original pickups were only at 5%, you could add a lot before noticing the cap
Sorry you may be right; I'm not discounting entirely... just saying for arguments sake

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 09, 2013, 07:52:05 PM

I have to be honest I dont see overunity in a simple primay to secondary devise, alternating current works perfectly with the rise and fall of a coil effectively using femf and bemf.

Maybe standing waves or plasma but not induction, personally Im going to play with the Rodin type coils to concentrate a spinning field and see where that leads.

If we could ever find a way to pull the energy from the core (collect lenz) then maybe, I have a few idea's that I will be trying as time permits.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 10, 2013, 07:01:00 AM

Re: Harmonic Oscillating Power Electric generator video
« Reply #138 on: May 07, 2007, 12:59:11 PM »
Quote
Please Note:

I have been trying to post the following message for the last several days. Every time I try my browser is shut down. I will attempt to upload the final revised "HOPE for the Future" .pdf file under the subject heading "HOPE Testing". Therefore please check there for this file if you are interested.

Jim
-----------------------------------------

Hi Everyone,

I appoligize for appearing to have disappeared. We have had some major problems with everyone being sick around here for the last 6 months. Numerous hospitalizations with pneumonia, blood poisoning, MRCA, abscessed teeth, etc.., etc.., and the folks need a lot of help getting along each day anymore. Anyway,........ I am attaching the latest and hopefully the final revision of the "HOPE for the Future" Construction, Assembly, and Basic Information paper for those who are interested. I completeing forgot to remove all mention of permanent magnets from the former copies and of course later discoveries showed that magnets actually serve no purpose at all in the HOPE Generator design.

I would also like to point out once again that I am not nor have I ever claimed that the current HOPE model is in fact a "Free Energy Technology", and I can only hope that people will make certain that they don't go telling others that I am making such claims. I visited Sterlings PES website just an hour or so ago and it appears that he has once again taken the liberty of mis-quoting me for some reason. I have been attempting to get through to Sterling by e-mail but once again my messages are being rejected so if anyone feels compelled please ask him to remove the claim of free energy in reference to my HOPE Generator. For any of you who would like to contact me you can write me at jfauble@sbcglobal.net and make certain to write HOPE 4 Me in the Subject line so I'll know that it's not just spam.

It would be very nice to talk one on one with those who are interested in this discovery and I believe we might actually be able to make more progress than this environment allows. I would also like to take this time to say that despite the fact that Freedomfuel has been a bit of a thorn in my side at times that he has been right on about 90+% of everything that he's commented on in regards to his theories on why the HOPE Generator functions as it does. Freedomfuel you have a fairly keen insight on many things and you have been instrumental in giving me some idea's about where to go in redesigning future HOPE models to function even more efficiently. In particular your thoughts on rotating magnetic fields as well as the "Earthquake Lightning" theory are very perceptive and I believe that you have a very good understanding of what is going on to cause the results we are seeing in a HOPE Unit.

I have decided to make the newly revised "HOPE for the Future" paper available to this forum and a very few others who have shown genuine interest in this phenomenon. I only ask that you restrict this information to yourselves and other members within this forum unless you first ask for my consent to share it with others. Also, please remember that though I am not claiming that HOPE is a free energy technology yet it certainly appears to be closer to it than anything else I have seen in my 30+ years of research, and I am so sure that it can be further developed by using the knowledge gained through experimentation and some of the insights that perceptive people have already shown in this forum.

After many attempts to reproduce the claimed results of Tom Bearden's MEG Unit I knew that there had to be something wrong with the picture so-to-speak. Remember that permenant magnets are not required nor do they serve any purpose in the HOPE design, and very small audio signals can produce even higher voltages in a HOPE Generator than anything that has been claimed with a MEG. I have learned a great deal through the last 6 to 7 years that I've been building these kinds of devices and I think we now have much more solid information to explain the undependable results that have been reported by most MEG builders. Freedomfuel already seems to have a very good understanding of the physics involved and that is quite impressive to me since he has never had the opportunity to personally examine or experiment with an actual HOPE Unit. BTW Freedomfuel, I have signed out of the ISBP OS Project and if it is going to be reproduced someone else is going to have to head it up and fund it. I hope you are satisfied, and I completely understand your concerns as I have had the same concerns. To bad there are so many evil people out there who can only see weapons instead of the tools to heal that we could have.

I'd like to share something else with you all that I doubt that anyone here has considered. Does anyone know who Stanley Meyers is? I'm sure that some of you do. Stanley Meyers discovered a way to use high voltage (HV) at very miniscule current levels to split large amounts of hydrogen and oxygen from H2O instead of the other way around. Meyers used a ramped DC pulse frequency to accomplish this task. One of the reasons that I see the discovery of the HOPE phenomenon as exciting as I do is that I can see how Meyers technique might be employed using a properly designed HOPE Generator. It should enable a person to get by with using far less actual power to achieve the same results. Since a HOPE Unit actually opperates better or at least as well on audio signals, it isn't difficult for me to see how these two pieces of the puzzle might fit together. Okay, so some might say that the difference is that a HOPE Unit puts out AC when Meyers used DC. So has anyone ever heard of a rectifier? Well, it just so happens that one of the other things that I haven't mentioned so far is that there is another very nice thing about a HOPE Unit that should come in handy for this application. That is, When you rectify the HV AC coming out of a HOPE Unit you get the same voltage in DC potential. I know that some of you will probably call me a liar, and I know that thats not suppose to happen but it does with a HOPE Generator. There are a few other phenomenon and anomalies that myself and others have witnessed but I sure don't want to get into anymore arguments with someone who assumes that I'm either off my rocker or just some idiot who doesn't know what I'm talking about. Been there, done that to many times to count and you can't prove anything to someone who knows everything without ever seeing anything.

The only thing I don't like about what I see happening with a HOPE Unit is that no matter what kind of waveform you put into the thing, you always get a sine wave at the output end. So far I haven't been successful at remedying this and I would prefer to be able to see the same waveform coming out as I am putting into the unit. However, I'm confident that some of you already know how the waveform could be converted into a square wave, a triangle wave, or whatever without changing the voltage potential or current value to much. Unfortunately I'm no expert on microcircuit design and I admit that this has been my biggest problem in determining whether or not its actually possible to close the loop on any of my current models.

In closing I just want to mention that I have tried to post this message a half dozen times over the period of the last several days and every time my browser is shut down. I never have the problems that I have trying to surf or post anything anywhere else on the Net so whatever the problem is, it seems to have something to do with this site in particular. I've had so many problems with trying to browse or post anything here that I begin to stress out even before I attempt to log in. If anyone else is experiencing the same or similar things please let others here know so Stefan can look into it. Have a great week everyone and I hope that this information will help to enlighten someone at least a little bit.

Cheers,

Jim
« Last Edit: May 09, 2007, 12:56:06 AM by BushWacker »

http://www.audiotesla.org/mini%20mosfet.htm (http://www.audiotesla.org/mini%20mosfet.htm)

Who would you call-at first-? http://theparanormaleffect.wordpress.com/category/evps/ (http://theparanormaleffect.wordpress.com/category/evps/) Making Secrets transparent:wellcome ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 10, 2013, 07:56:23 AM

LanciaIV: What on earth is your post about?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 10, 2013, 09:31:36 AM

The seeming ability of entities to make contact through a computer were first noticed in Germany in 1980, according to Electronic Links to Other Dimensions & Entities. A researcher received a spontaneous message that appeared first as a series of letters, then words and finally phrases that referred clearly to a deceased friend of the investigator. Four years later, an English professor claimed to have exchanged messages (supposedly this was not e-mail) for over 15 months with a group of advanced entities living in the year 2019 as well as a man from 1546.
Energy journey-time back and forward.
Why do you ask ? You can read it by yourself.

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 10, 2013, 09:58:29 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on December 10, 2013, 09:31:36 AM
The seeming ability of entities to make contact through a computer were first noticed in Germany in 1980, according to Electronic Links to Other Dimensions & Entities. A researcher received a spontaneous message that appeared first as a series of letters, then words and finally phrases that referred clearly to a deceased friend of the investigator. Four years later, an English professor claimed to have exchanged messages (supposedly this was not e-mail) for over 15 months with a group of advanced entities living in the year 2019 as well as a man from 1546.
Energy journey-time back and forward.
Why do you ask ? You can read it by yourself.

Sincerely
OCWL

Then it would have been appropriate to preface your post with, "This has nothing to do with energy amplification - but it might be of interest to those seeking after life communication"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on December 10, 2013, 10:23:22 AM

Perhaps Lanca believes Tito to be an "Emptity"
or is that entity??

Sorry I could not resist.........

Chet

PS
Tito always asked for help with his circuits/experiments....and received it !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 10, 2013, 10:45:13 AM

Purple trace is voltage at the spot marked with purple spot.

In the original picture, when the magnetic field is at it's absolute maximum strength, it was depicted as turning around. By the drive side... At that point, the poles would SEEM to be reversed... but this can be tested with a DC current. WHen you energize a coil next to a compass it will make the compass move towards the north. As you disconnect it, it will relax to its original position, it won't instantaneously swing around to the opposite side.

More of a thought experiment. What if you didn't allow the AC to go all the way to the bottom... so you started from +1V to +3 V and only back to +1. Would the magnetic field at any time (or current) be backwards?

It's why we 'think' the sun flips poles every 11 years... because we're detecting it with an indirect device. Actually it's just moving closer or further from us.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 10, 2013, 11:10:24 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 09, 2013, 07:52:05 PM
I have to be honest I dont see overunity in a simple primay to secondary devise, alternating current works perfectly with the rise and fall of a coil effectively using femf and bemf.

Maybe standing waves or plasma but not induction, personally Im going to play with the Rodin type coils to concentrate a spinning field and see where that leads.

If we could ever find a way to pull the energy from the core (collect lenz) then maybe, I have a few idea's that I will be trying as time permits.

dave

Right; I realized later... it was to take one change and make it 'upright' ... could rectify the current change into an absolute value...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 10, 2013, 11:48:27 AM

Here's an early design by Tito. You may need to reverse the trafo because we could be talking double negatives here.

Anyhow I've replicated it and it appears to be marginally OU.
It will certainly desulphate a battery from the battery itself.
So the effect could be the desulphation.
However better component matching will certainly help.

I used a Tesla switch as an interrupter.
It uses the Tesla's ignition patent method of pulsing by effectively shorting the cap.
Tito has added a diode and a resistor.
Nice circuit.
This was 2009 I believe. Tito knows what he is doing. I am certain.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on December 10, 2013, 01:16:44 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 10, 2013, 10:45:13 AM

More of a thought experiment. What if you didn't allow the AC to go all the way to the bottom... so you started from +1V to +3 V and only back to +1. Would the magnetic field at any time (or current) be backwards?

Dear d3x0r.

In a " Nut shell " Figuera patent !! ;)

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 10, 2013, 02:18:19 PM

Quote from: Grumage on December 10, 2013, 01:16:44 PM
Dear d3x0r.

In a " Nut shell " Figuera patent !! ;)

Cheers Grum.

Okay; I don't have a core with 3 juntions. I folded them all onto the center, and one loop around the outside...

9V battery; I dunno needs to be a much lower resistance swiper... or have a resistor in parallel that's fairly low...
but then it will get hot quickly ...

But yes basically the idea works...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AOYYiONhnA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AOYYiONhnA)

Only one side was really participating... one driver side. Mind you it is on ferrite, so there is an additional snap back.. I should remove the core and just go to the one coil

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 10, 2013, 04:00:00 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 10, 2013, 11:48:27 AM
Here's an early design by Tito. You may need to reverse the trafo because we could be talking double negatives here.

Anyhow I've replicated it and it appears to be marginally OU.
It will certainly desulphate a battery from the battery itself.
So the effect could be the desulphation.
However better component matching will certainly help.

I used a Tesla switch as an interrupter.
It uses the Tesla's ignition patent method of pulsing by effectively shorting the cap.
Tito has added a diode and a resistor.
Nice circuit.
This was 2009 I believe. Tito knows what he is doing. I am certain.

relay relaxation oscillator by wasatonic in regards to the relay as vibrator

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 10, 2013, 08:47:51 PM

Quote from: totoalas on December 10, 2013, 04:00:00 PM
relay relaxation oscillator by wasatonic in regards to the relay as vibrator

Hinde pare , para yang pasingaw na sumisingaw at lumalabas sa may bandang puwitan ng hinulugang tak tak. ;D
Yan actually ang epekto ng pagkakakain ng puto boom boom. ;D

kuha mo pre?, dapat mga ganyang banat. hahahhhahahhahhahahhahhahahaha ;D ;D ;D ;D

relax relax muna pag may time. ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 10, 2013, 08:54:37 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 10, 2013, 11:48:27 AM
Here's an early design by Tito. You may need to reverse the trafo because we could be talking double negatives here.

Anyhow I've replicated it and it appears to be marginally OU.
It will certainly desulphate a battery from the battery itself.
So the effect could be the desulphation.
However better component matching will certainly help.

I used a Tesla switch as an interrupter.
It uses the Tesla's ignition patent method of pulsing by effectively shorting the cap.
Tito has added a diode and a resistor.
Nice circuit.
This was 2009 I believe. Tito knows what he is doing. I am certain.

certainly off course ;) 8)
what do you think of me? thinking of you??. ??? :o ;D

wow, everybody is quiet. :o wahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahha ;D ;D ;D

hey body, this scheme of mine is just one of my starting setup actually.;D ;D ;D
They thought i cannot get it? hahahahhahahaahhahahah weh hehehehehhehehehhe ;D ;D ;D
There is wrong in this setup cause the inverter is connected in 220v. ;D
There is also missing something here. :)

I think that was the puto boom boom. ;D hahahhahahahahhahahaha

one time you said that you will not make patronizing for me. it seems there's a wind of change :o . hahahahahahhaha ;D
sorry my brain is back tracking. ;)

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 10, 2013, 10:56:29 PM

I am not patronizing you. Just giving credit where credit is due.
Some people on the forum lack the knowledge to be objective.
Your circuit is a good circuit and is more than 99% of members have done.
Stop mocking me. You do not know who or what I am.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 10, 2013, 11:07:14 PM

TITO L ORACION in 2009 Jan
" sir how can we use heat, or could you give me an idea how to dissipate it excluding to use fan or submerge it into oil?

any other idea sir?

Thank you God bless
otits "

And Tito now???

Remember your self Tito?
Look in the mirror.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 10, 2013, 11:14:17 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 10, 2013, 02:18:19 PM
Okay; I don't have a core with 3 juntions. I folded them all onto the center, and one loop around the outside...

9V battery; I dunno needs to be a much lower resistance swiper... or have a resistor in parallel that's fairly low...
but then it will get hot quickly ...

But yes basically the idea works...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AOYYiONhnA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AOYYiONhnA)

Only one side was really participating... one driver side. Mind you it is on ferrite, so there is an additional snap back.. I should remove the core and just go to the one coil

I experimented for a while; what I thought was a resistive element is just a tube containing the element; aparently the element is inside the tube... so the resistance is basically 0 for what I was trying...

Attached schematic is essentially the same. To get good voltage out you want a quick change of current anyway. I have a video with a scope probe between the resistors which makes it a CSR. the current never reverses... when closing the switch (bypassing the resistor to increase current) a pulse 'up' is received on the secondary. When the switch is opened, a pulse 'down' is received on the secondary. It's not the noisy output I had from before... which at that point is more like what I was dealing with on the elemnt...

The heating element on this hotplate has a black rough finish on it; so going along makes it connect and disconnect a lot; so I thought it was nearly working... I almost started to think that it was inevitable to move and not get a spark... so changing current maybe DID forcably and powerfully reverse the field so it would always arc. Then I polished the surface, and found a carbon plate... so any remaining roughness would get filled or covered by the graphite (graphite plate).... which allowed me to move back and forth without sparks; but then didn't get enough resistance change. I tried connecting the variable resistor across low ohm resistors in series; but turning the pot I'm sure isn't fast enough to really trigger it; only when I was near the ends (always, even with 10ohm in parallel) would it trigger; but it was the choppy connect/disconnect mode.

So ya... strong north to weaker north field and never a south generates an apparent n/s change on the output.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhpBeXq7xvA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=BhpBeXq7xvA)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 10, 2013, 11:15:50 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 10, 2013, 08:54:37 PM

certainly off course ;) 8)
what do you think of me? thinking of you??. ??? :o ;D

wow, everybody is quiet. :o wahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahha ;D ;D ;D

hey body, this scheme of mine is just one of my starting setup actually. ;D ;D ;D
They thought i cannot get it? hahahahhahahaahhahahah weh hehehehehhehehehhe ;D ;D ;D
Who thought that you can thought ?????

There is wrong in this setup cause the inverter is connected in 220v. ;D
There is also missing something here. :)
Sweet and sour chicken A... H//le putakkkkkk putakkk heheheh

Ive done and succesfully made the Gyula version of your circuit
Just want to say its 100 % working on my test bench :-X :P :-\ :-* :'(

I think that was the puto boom boom. ;D hahahhahahahahhahahaha

one time you said that you will not make patronizing for me. it seems there's a wind of change :o . hahahahahahhaha ;D
sorry my brain is back tracking. ;)

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 10, 2013, 11:46:04 PM

ECD

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 11, 2013, 01:22:17 AM

You can also generate power from a coil with a magnet that is facing north towards the core...

s===N <- move -> O====) <--(coil)

and get an AC pulse out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 11, 2013, 03:36:54 AM

@A.king
i'm not mocking you!, i just remember what you said! >:(
Sorry they sounds patronizing to me. :D

I DON'T NEED CREDITS!!! :)

See, that is the main reason why I can't trust everybody!!!. now you know my reason. :) [size=78%] [/size]
Well, at least i'ved impart some knowledge to everybody. and that is the important thing. :)
and at least i'ved opened some part of you from tesla. :)

And Now I know you partly and that's okay with me. ;)

@totoalas
Congrats to your puto boom boom. ;D
patikim naman jan ;)

Anyway, MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY. :)

GOODBYE AGAIN!!! ;D >:(

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 11, 2013, 03:46:36 AM

Quote from: ramset on December 10, 2013, 10:23:22 AM
Perhaps Lanca believes Tito to be an "Emptity"
or is that entity??

Sorry I could not resist.........

Chet

PS
Tito always asked for help with his circuits/experiments....and received it !

For your information, i did not received anything okay!!! >:(

And i believe many received here from me and many has no thanks. ;D
They even want to kill me. ;D

ohhh poor people :'(

Anyhow Merry Christmas ;)

My wish is your progress everyone :)

bye ;)

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 11, 2013, 07:36:09 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 10, 2013, 11:07:14 PM
TITO L ORACION in 2009 Jan
" sir how can we use heat, or could you give me an idea how to dissipate it excluding to use fan or submerge it into oil?

any other idea sir?

Thank you God bless
otits "

And Tito now???

Remember your self Tito?
Look in the mirror.

Well, thank you making me remember this, but i only learn here from the posts of sir wattsup and i give all my respect to him. :)

Lots of people here learns from me and yet no respect. :(
They made me bad and mad. >:(
and that's okay its part of learning i guess. :)

Its like twisting of two insulated copper wire of #14awg to atleast 7 to 14 twist, making it as a heavy duty caps. ;) 8)

Simple things really works isn't it?. ;)

bye ;) :-*

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 11, 2013, 08:14:25 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 10, 2013, 07:56:23 AM
LanciaIV: What on earth is your post about?

You have to understand that my ding-/thnk-ing is wider :

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3483 on: November 15, 2013, 02:19:28 PM »
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Das Abendmahl (Leonardo da Vinci)

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Das Abendmahl
Leonardo da Vinci, 1494–1498
Secco, 422 cm × 904 cm
Santa Maria delle Grazie

Das Abendmahl (italienisch: Il Cenacolo bzw. L'Ultima Cena) des italienischen Malers Leonardo da Vinci ist eines der berühmtesten Wandgemälde der Welt.

Das in der Seccotechnik ausgeführte Werk wurde in den Jahren 1494 bis 1498 im Auftrag des Mailänder Herzogs Ludovico Sforza geschaffen. Es schmückt die Nordwand des Refektoriums (Speisesaal) des Dominikanerklosters Santa Maria delle Grazie in Mailand und gilt als Höhepunkt in Leonardos malerischem Schaffen.Inhaltsverzeichnis [Verbergen]
1 Allgemeines
2 Geschichte
3 Dargestellte
3.1 Bartholomäus, Jakobus und Andreas
3.2 Petrus, Judas und Johannes
3.3 Jesus
3.4 Thomas, Jakobus und Philippus
3.5 Matthäus, Thaddäus und Simon
4 Die Perspektive
5 Rezeption
5.1 Das Gemälde in der Modernen Kunst
6 Verfremdungen in der Werbung und der Kunst
7 Literatur
8 Belletristik
9 Weblinks
10 Einzelnachweise

Allgemeines[Bearbeiten]

Santa Maria delle Grazie

Das Bild misst 422×904 cm[1] und zeigt Jesus mit den zwölf Aposteln in dem Augenblick unmittelbar nachdem dieser ihnen erklärt hat: ,,Einer von euch wird mich verraten". Es gilt als Meilenstein der Renaissance, denn es nahm wegen seiner korrekt wiedergegebenen perspektivischen Tiefe bahnbrechenden Einfluss auf die Malerei des Abendlandes.

Der Tisch und die Apostel sind an der vorderen Begrenzung des Raums angeordnet, in dem das Mahl stattfindet. Dahinter verengt sich der Raum, und die dargestellten Personen scheinen in den Raum des Refektoriums zu blicken. Das Licht, das die Szene ausleuchtet, kommt jedoch nicht aus dem dreiteiligen gemalten Fenster, sondern schräg von links wie das wirkliche Licht, das durch Fenster an der linken Wand einfällt.

In diesem Bild findet man an vielen Stellen den goldenen Schnitt, zum Beispiel dort, wo Jesus und die Person rechts neben ihm (Jakobus der Ältere), die Hände haben, wird das Bild in diesem Verhältnis geteilt.

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Geschichte[Bearbeiten]

,,Das Abendmahl", Giampietrino (ca. 1520), Royal Academy of Arts, London, wie das Bild einmal ausgesehen haben mag.

Nachdem Leonardo die Arbeit am Tonmodell des Sforza-Denkmals beendet hatte, begann er – ebenfalls im Auftrage des Herzogs Ludovico Sforza – 1495 das Abendmahl im Refektorium des Klosters Santa Maria delle Grazie. Erste Ideen hatte er bereits auf einer Studie zur ,,Anbetung der Könige" skizziert: Eine Gruppe von Männern aus dem Gefolge der Könige an einer Tafel.

In einer Rötelzeichnung ordnete er die Jünger in Zweiergruppen und zeigte dabei noch Anlehnungen an die Abendmahlsdarstellungen Domenico Ghirlandaios und Andrea del Castagnos. Johannes ruht ebenfalls zur Linken Christi mit dem Oberkörper auf dem Tisch und Judas sitzt von den übrigen Aposteln isoliert vor der Tafel.

In einer Notiz beschreibt Leonardo die unterschiedliche Haltung der Jünger:

Einer, der gerade trinken wollte, aber den Becher auf seinem Platz stehen ließ und den Kopf dem Erzählenden zuwandte. Ein andrer, die Finger seiner Hände verschränkend und die Stirn runzelnd, wendet sich seinem Nachbarn zu. Ein andrer, mit offenen Händen, zeigt die Handflächen, hebt die Schultern gegen die Ohren und öffnet den Mund vor Erstaunen. Ein andrer sagt seinem Nächsten etwas ins Ohr, und dieser, der lauscht, dreht sich ihm zu und schenkt ihm Gehör, in einer Hand ein Messer, in der andern das mit diesem Messer durchgeschnittene Brot. Ein andrer, mit einem Messer in der Hand, wirft beim Umdrehen mit dieser Hand einen Becher auf dem Tisch um. Ein andrer legt die Hände auf den Tisch und starrt vor sich hin. Ein andrer bläst auf seinen Bissen. Ein andrer beugt sich vor, um den Erzählenden zu sehen, und beschattet dabei mit der Hand seine Augen. Ein andrer tritt hinter den zurück, der sich vorbeugt, und schaut zwischen der Wand und dem Vorgebeugten auf den Erzählenden.[3]

In sorgfältigen Einzelstudien, die sich heute in Schloss Windsor befinden, bereitete Leonardo die Apostelköpfe vor und suchte nach einem geeigneten Modell für Jesus.

Ludovico Sforza betrachtet Leonardos Abendmahl

Von der Ungeduld des Priors erzählt Vasari folgende Anekdote:

Man sagt, der Prior des Klosters habe Lionardo sehr ungestüm angetrieben, das Werk zu vollenden: ihm schien es seltsam, Lionardo bisweilen einen halben Tag in Nachdenken verloren zu sehen; es wäre ihm lieber gewesen, wenn er gleich Arbeitern, die den Garten umhacken, den Pinsel niemals aus der Hand gelegt hätte. Da ihm nicht Genüge geleistet wurde, beschwerte er sich vor dem Herzog und drängte ihn so lange, bis dieser sich gezwungen sah, Lionardo rufen zu lassen, und ihn freundlich zur Arbeit bewegte, wobei er versicherte, er tue dies nur auf die Zudringlichkeit des Priors hin.
Leonardo kannte den klaren Verstand und den Takt des Fürsten, und deshalb entschloss er sich, mit ihm über die Sache ausführlich zu reden, was er mit dem Prior nie getan hatte. Er äußerte sich weitläufig über die Kunst und machte anschaulich, daß erhabene Geister bisweilen am meisten schaffen, wenn sie am wenigsten arbeiten, nämlich wenn sie erfinden und vollkommene Ideen ausbilden, die die Hände ausdrücken und darstellen nach jenen, die schon im Geiste konzipiert sind. Zwei Köpfe, so fügte er hinzu, wären es, die ihm noch fehlten, der von Christus, nach welchem er nicht auf Erden suchen wolle, und von dem er nicht glaube, daß seiner Einbildungskraft jene Schönheit und himmlische Anmut vorschweben könne, die der menschgewordenen Gottheit gezieme; der andere sei der des Judas, über den er nachdenke. Ihm scheine es unmöglich, passende Gesichtszüge für jenen zu erfinden, dessen trotziger Geist nach so vielfach empfangenen Wohltaten des Entschlusses fähig gewesen wäre, seinen Meister, den Erretter der Welt, zu verraten; nach diesem letzteren indes wolle er suchen, und finde er nichts Besseres, so bliebe ihm der des lästigen und taktlosen Priors gewiß.
Dies brachte den Herzog sehr zum Lachen und er gab Lionardo tausendmal recht. Der arme Prior, in Verwirrung geraten, befleißigte sich, die Arbeiten im Garten zu betreiben, Lionardo aber ließ er in Frieden; dieser führte den Kopf des Judas so trefflich zu Ende, daß er das wahre Bild des Verrates und der Unmenschlichkeit ist; das Haupt Christi dagegen blieb unvollendet ... [3]

Bei der Ausführung versuchte Leonardo, die Öltechnik für die Wandmalerei zu nutzen. Wegen der Feuchtigkeit der Mauer und des Gebrauchs experimenteller organischer Farben, die sich bald als Fehlgriff erwiesen, erlitt das Gemälde jedoch noch zu Lebzeiten Leonardos schwere Schäden durch feine Risse. Im Laufe der Zeit blätterte auch die Farbe über weite Flächen ab. Einer später in die Wand eingezogenen Tür fielen Jesu Füße zum Opfer, die Leonardo ursprünglich abgebildet hatte.

Der Dichter Matteo Bandello, dessen Onkel der Prior des Klosters war, beobachtete Leonardo häufig beim Malen des Abendmahls und berichtet darüber Folgendes:

Er kam oft früh zur Morgendämmerungszeit in den Konvent und ich konnte ihn bei seiner Arbeit beobachten. Eilends stieg er auf das Gerüst, arbeitete fleißig, bis ihn die Schatten des Abends zum Aufhören zwangen, und dachte nie daran, Nahrung zu sich zu nehmen, so sehr war er in seine Arbeit vertieft. Zu anderen Zeiten kam er drei oder vier Tage lang, ohne sein Bild anzurühren, und blieb nur ein paar Stunden mit verschränkten Armen davor stehen und blickte seine Figuren an, als ob er sie selbst kritisierte. Auch sah ich ihn oftmals mittags, ohne nach Schatten zu suchen, auf dem schnellsten Weg in den Konvent eilen, wenn das Glühen der Sonne im Zenit sämtliche Straßen Mailands menschenleer gemacht hatte. Er kam von der Zitadelle, wo er sein kolossales Pferd [das Sforza-Reiterstandbild] modellierte. Im Konvent brachte er ein oder zwei Pinselstriche an, um dann augenblicklich wieder zurückzugehen.[4]

Der französische König Franz I. war so angetan von dem Bild, dass er es von der Wand ablösen lassen und nach Frankreich mitnehmen wollte. Doch die damit verbundenen Schwierigkeiten hatten laut Giorgio Vasari ,,zur Folge, daß seine Majestät die Lust verlor und es [das Bild] den Mailändern blieb".[5]

Gobelin

Mosaikkopie in der Wiener Minoritenkirche

Während der folgenden zwanzig oder dreißig Jahre wurden in Italien und Flandern zahlreiche Kopien angefertigt, die zum Teil noch erhalten sind und einen Eindruck davon geben, wie das Abendmahl ursprünglich ausgesehen haben mag. Als der Dauphin von Frankreich, der spätere Heinrich II., im Jahr 1533 Katharina von Medici heiratete, sandte König Franz I. einen großen Gobelin mit einer Kopie von Leonardos Abendmahl, der heute im Vatikan zu sehen ist. Der Gobelin ist reichhaltig verziert und zeigt im Hintergrund eine komplizierte Architektur im italienisierenden Stil, wie er in Frankreich damals üblich war.

Napoleons Besatzungstruppen machten das Refektorium dann zu einem Pferdestall. Napoléon ließ auch eine Mosaikkopie in Auftrag geben, die jedoch erst nach seinem Sturz beendet wurde und von seinem Schwiegervater Kaiser Franz I gekauft wurde. Für seinen ursprünglich vorgesehenen Aufstellungsort im Belvedere erwies sie sich als zu groß, so dass sie letztlich in die Wiener Minoritenkirche kam.

1943 überstand das Gemälde einen Bombenangriff, der die Südwand des Saals zum Einsturz brachte. Doch das Abendmahl blieb unversehrt, da es von den Mönchen des Klosters mit Sandsäcken geschützt worden war.

Das Abendmahl wurde bereits mehrfach restauriert, vor allem durch Bellotti (1726), Mazza (1770) und Berezzi (1819). Erst in jüngster Zeit (1978 bis 1999) gelang es durch moderne Techniken den Verfall des Bildes aufzuhalten. Heute kann es wieder besichtigt werden, wird jedoch durch Sicherheits- und Staubschleusen geschützt. Pro Stunde werden nur etwa 100 Besucher zugelassen, daher gibt es lange Wartelisten und eine Anmeldung ist notwendig.

1980 wurde die Kirche gemeinsam mit dem Gemälde von der UNESCO zum Weltkulturerbe erklärt.
Dargestellte[Bearbeiten]

Studien Leonardos

Leonardos Komposition dieses traditionellen kirchlichen Themas ist lebhafter/bewegter als frühere Werke. Er verzichtet auf Heiligenscheine und die bildhafte Isolierung des Verräters Judas. Er gruppiert die Apostel in vier Teileinheiten, die auf unterschiedliche Weise auf seine Enthüllung ,,Einer von euch wird mich verraten" reagieren.
Bartholomäus, Jakobus und Andreas[Bearbeiten]

Bartholomäus, Jakobus der Jüngere und Andreas bilden am linken Rand eine Dreiergruppe, die die Überraschung des Moments ausdrückt.
Bartholomäus (wahrscheinlich identisch mit ,,Nathanael" aus dem Johannesevangelium) – blaues Gewand (ganz links). Er soll der Legende nach in Indien, Mesopotamien und Armenien gepredigt haben, wo er auch das Martyrium erlitten haben soll. Astyages soll den Befehl gegeben haben, ihm bei lebendigem Leibe die Haut abzuziehen und ihn anschließend kopfunter zu kreuzigen. Bartholomäus stützt sich auf den Tisch und ist empört.
Jakobus, der Sohn des Alphäus, Bruder des Thaddäus, auch ,,Jakobus der Jüngere" – rotes Gewand (2. v. L). In der Kirchengeschichte wurde Jakobus, der Sohn des Alphäus, auch mit Jakobus dem Kleinen und Jakobus, dem Bruder Jesu gleichgesetzt. Jakobus der Kleine wird in der Bibel nur einmal erwähnt (Mt 27,56) und zwar als Sohn einer Jüngerin Jesu namens Maria und Bruder eines Joses. Jacobus bleibt scheinbar gelassen, doch ist er starr vor Schreck.
Andreas, Bruder des Simon Petrus – gelbes Gewand (3. v. l.). Andreas sei zuerst ein Jünger Johannes des Täufers gewesen, der ihn dann an Jesus wies, worauf er auch seinen Bruder Simon zu Jesus führte mit der Botschaft ,,Wir haben den Messias gefunden" (Joh 1,35-42). Daher kommt sein traditioneller Beiname der Erstberufene. In den Apostellisten erscheint Andreas immer unter den ersten vier Aposteln. Andreas zieht auf diesem Bild seine Schultern hoch und wehrt mit den Händen ab, die besagen: ,,Aber ich doch nicht!"

Bartholomäus, Jakobus und Andreas

Bartholomäus, Jakobus und Andreas

Studie für den Bartholomäus

Bartholomäus mit abgezogener Haut in der Sixtinischen Kapelle
Petrus, Judas und Johannes[Bearbeiten]

Petrus beugt sich zu Jesu Lieblingsjünger Johannes, der den Kopf beugt, während sich der Verräter Judas von beiden distanzierend abwendet.
Simon Petrus (4. v. links; spricht zu Johannes). Nach allen Evangelien lautete sein Name Simon. Paulus von Tarsus dagegen nannte ihn stets Kephas ohne Vornamen. Dieser Ausdruck ist eine Gräzisierung des aramäischen Wortes kefa כיפא, griechisch übersetzt πετρος (petros), latinisiert Petrus. Es bedeutet in beiden Sprachen gewöhnlich ,,Stein". Diesen Beinamen soll Jesus persönlich Simon verliehen haben; wo und wann er dies tat, überliefern die Evangelien unterschiedlich. Mt 16,18 EU erklärt den Beinamen mit Jesu Zusage an Petrus: ,,Auf diesen Felsen will ich meine Kirche bauen." Petrus ist begierig zu erfahren, wer der Verräter sein wird.
Judas Ischariot sitzt im Halbschatten – erkennbar am Geldsäckchen. Vielleicht drückt die angedeutete Drehung Distanzierung aus. Nach allen vier Evangelien soll er in Jerusalem Jesu Festnahme im Garten Getsemani durch die im Sanhedrin führenden Gruppen ermöglicht haben mit der Folge, dass Jesus von diesen an die Römer ausgeliefert und gekreuzigt wurde. Er galt den Urchristen daher als der, der Jesus verriet (Mk 3,19 EU). Judas sitzt im Unterschied zu konventionellen Darstellungen an der gleichen Tischseite wie die übrigen Jünger. Während die Jünger bestürzt diskutieren, verharrt er unbeweglich. Judas ist platziert zwischen dem aufbrausenden Petrus und dem sanften Johannes. Sein Blick geht über das Haupt Jesu hinweg. Über das Modell für den Judas hat der österreichische Schriftsteller Leo Perutz den Roman ,,Der Judas des Leonardo" (postum, 1959) geschrieben: Leonardo da Vinci möchte nach vierzehn Jahren endlich sein Gemälde vollenden, doch es fehlt ihm das Modell für den Kopf des Judas, denn er sucht nach ,,dem allerschlechtesten Menschen in ganz Mailand". Er findet schließlich den böhmischen Kaufmann Joachim Behaim, der nach acht Jahren noch einmal nach Mailand zurückkehrt und sich wundert, dass die Leute über ihn lästern, bis er das Abendmahl ansieht und feststellt, dass Judas sein Gesicht hat.
Johannes (6. v. l.) sitzt an Jesu rechter Seite. Johannes wird in der kirchlichen Tradition mit dem ,,Lieblingsjünger" Jesu aus dem Johannesevangelium identifiziert. Er stand als einziger Jünger unter dem Kreuz. Johannes ist mit sich im Reinen, denn er weiß, dass niemand ihn verdächtigen wird. So sitzt er still da und betrauert das Geschehen. Allerdings gibt es auch Interpretationen, die besagen, dass es sich bei der Darstellung des Johannes um Maria Magdalena handle. Diese Interpretation fußt auf dem Argument, dass man den Brustansatz erkennen könne, wenn man das Bild vergrößere.

Judas, Petrus und Johannes

Judas, Petrus und Johannes

Studie für den Judas

Studie für den Petrus
Jesus[Bearbeiten]

Jesus (mit rotem Gewand und blauem Überwurf) scheint in Richtung seiner nach oben gedrehten Handfläche zu blicken. Die rechte Hand liegt auf dem Tisch. Durch die Zentralperspektive und den Lichteinfall wird Jesu Bedeutung klar hervorgehoben.

Jesus

Jesus ruhig inmitten der aufgeregten Jünger

Jesus in einer älteren Kopie

Studie für den Jesus
Thomas, Jakobus und Philippus[Bearbeiten]

Thomas, Jakobus der Ältere und Philippus drücken mehr Zorn und Fragen aus. Jakobus breitet seine Arme aus und bildet dadurch eine Barriere, die den fragenden Gesten von Thomas (mit erhobenen Zeigefinger) und Philippus (beide Hände zeigen auf seine Brust) Einhalt gebietet.
Thomas, auch ,,Didymos Judas Thomas". Der Name Thomas stammt aus dem Aramäischen und bedeutet ,,Zwilling". Deshalb wird Thomas in der Bibel auch ,,Didymus" (griechisch didymos, δίδυμος) genannt. Nach der Überlieferung ist er der ,,ungläubige Thomas", weil er an der Auferstehung Jesu zunächst zweifelte, bis er selbst die Wundmale des Auferstandenen sehen und berühren durfte. Thomas zeigt zum Himmel als wollte er sagen: ,,Wehe dem Verräter!"
Jakobus, der Sohn des Zebedäus, oder Jakobus der Ältere (sitzt von Jesu aus betrachtet direkt an seiner linken Seite). Er soll der Apostel gewesen sein, der nach der Himmelfahrt Jesu auf der Iberischen Halbinsel predigte. Er breitet seine Arme aus und bildet dadurch eine Barriere zu Jesus.
Philippus – rotes Gewand (4. v. r., gerade aufgesprungen). Philippus wurde von Jesus direkt berufen, ihm nachzufolgen (Johannes 1,43). Er ist es, der das Erlebte dem Nathanael weitererzählte. Philippus ist tief betroffen und kann nicht glauben, dass das Prophezeite wirklich geschieht.

Thomas, Jakobus und Philippus

Thomas, Jakobus und Philippus

Studie für den Philippus

Studie für den Jacobus
Matthäus, Thaddäus und Simon[Bearbeiten]

Matthäus und Thaddäus wenden sich fragend zu dem ganz rechts sitzenden Simon aus Kanaan. Sie debattieren die Enthüllung Jesu, wobei ihre Gesten die Erschütterung verstärken.
Matthäus, der (ehemalige) Steuerpächter und spätere Evangelist (Identität mit dem Evangelisten Matthäus ist aber nicht nachweisbar) – (3. v. R). Nach alter kirchlicher Überlieferung soll Matthäus als erster sein Evangelium in hebräischer Sprache verfasst haben. In seinem Katalog der Kirchenschriftsteller sagt Hieronymus (347–419 n. Chr.) dazu: ,,Matthäus, der auch Levi ist und der von einem Zöllner zu einem Apostel wurde, und zwar als erster aller Evangelisten, verfasste ein Evangelium von Christus in Judäa in der hebräischen Sprache und in hebräischen Schriftzeichen zum Nutzen derjenigen aus der Beschneidung, die geglaubt hatten" ... Matthäus fragt Simon: ,,Kann es stimmen, was uns Jesus gerade gesagt hat?"
Thaddäus, dessen Bruder, auch Judas Thaddäus – (2. v. R.). Die Person Thaddäus ist im Zwölferkreis nach den Quellen nicht eindeutig zu identifizieren und hat zu Spekulationen Anlass gegeben. Er wird auch mit Simon Zelotes identifiziert. Als Kirchenpatrone tauchen beide oft gemeinsam als ,,Sankt Simon und Judas". Thaddäus traut seinen Ohren nicht und fragt Simon, was es mit der Prophezeiung wohl auf sich habe.
Simon Zelotes Kanaanäus – weißes Gewand (ganz rechts). Seinen Beinamen Zelotes, im aramäischen ,,Kananäu", im Deutschen ,,der Eiferer", erhielt er wohl aufgrund seiner ursprünglichen Zugehörigkeit zur radikalen Zelotenpartei, die sich zum Ziel setzten, die Römer gewaltsam aus Israel zu vertreiben. Im Neuen Testament der Bibel erscheint nur sein Name und Beiname, und das auch nur in den Apostellisten; sonstige Details über ihn fehlen vollständig. Nach der Kreuzigung Christi verkündete Simon der Überlieferung nach das Evangelium in Babylonien und Persien, wo er auch zusammen mit Judas Thaddäus den Märtyrertod erlitten haben soll. Simon versucht das Unfassbare zu begreifen.

Matthäus, Thaddäus und Simon

Judas Thaddäus und Simon

Matthäus, Thaddäus und Simon
Die Perspektive[Bearbeiten]

Bildlich dargestellte Fluchtpunktlinien

Leonardo da Vinci äußerte sich im Codex Madrid folgendermaßen zur Perspektive:

...ein Auge, das eine Wandmalerei betrachtet, versetzt sich immer in die Mitte des Bildes. Für sich ist die Perspektive, die eine gerade Wand bietet, falsch, wenn sie nicht der Standort des betrachtenden Auges korrigiert, indem er die Wand perspektivisch verkürzt zeigt.[6]

In der Geschichte perspektivischer Darstellungsweisen vollzog sich im 15. Jahrhundert der Sprung vom Gebrauch handwerklicher Regeln und Erfahrungen zur Anwendung mathematisch fundierter Konstruktionssysteme – das Abendmahl Leonardos ist das Paradebeispiel.

Leonardo schreibt selbst über die Perspektive des Abendmahls:

Wenn man ganz nahe vor dem Abendmahl steht, der Christusfigur gegenüber, erscheinen die seitlichen Teile zwangsläufig verkleinert im Verhältnis zur Mitte des Freskos, die einem näher ist. Wenn, wie wir gesehen haben, die traditionelle -flache- Perspektive die äußersten Seiten des Bildes über Gebühr vergrößert darstellt, so werden sie dafür vom Auge des Betrachters verkleinert, sobald es sich in der Mittelachse befindet; und es lässt sich unschwer zeigen, dass diese beiden Verzerrungen einander aufheben, gesetzt den Fall der Betrachter befindet sich genau an der Spitze der Sichtpyramide, deren Schnitt das Gemälde bilden soll, was der Dritten der vorhin angeführten Voraussetzungen entspricht. In allen anderen Fällen geschieht es, dass die Verzerrungen der flachen Perspektive und die Verzerrungen, welche die kugelförmige, (Leonardos) natürliche Perspektive der wahrgenommenen gemalten Oberfläche aufzwingt, sich summieren oder einander überlagern, anstatt sich aufzuheben; und das Bild erscheint somit -monströs-."[7]

Der Leipziger Kunsthistoriker Frank Zöllner schreibt:

Wie schon die Florentiner Künstler vor ihm, stellt Leonardo das letzte Abendmahl des Herrn in einem nach Regeln der Zentralperspektive konstruierten bühnenartigen Raum dar.[8]

Versuchsaufbau in der Wiener Minoritenkirche (Abendmahlgröße = Originalgröße)

Es handelt sich bei der im Abendmahl angewendeten Perspektive um eine Zentralperspektive, wie wir sie heute noch verwenden. Wie der Name bereits andeutet, definiert sich diese Abbildungsart einer dreidimensionalen Welt auf eine Fläche durch das Vorhandensein eines Projektionszentrums, auch Augpunkt genannt. Bei dem Augpunkt handelt es sich um den Standpunkt des Betrachters. Dieser Augpunkt befindet sich beim Abendmahl nachweislich in der Schläfe der Christusfigur (das ist bei den letzten Restaurierungsarbeiten festgestellt worden – man hat das Loch eines Nagels gefunden[9]), d.h. das von Leonardo da Vinci festgelegte Zentrum des Bildes ist die Schläfe der Christusfigur und gleichzeitig der Punkt, in dem sich alle (perspektivischen) Strahlen treffen. Da Vinci hat die Strahlen mittels eines Nagels und gespannter Schnüre ermittelt.

Zur Perspektive des Abendmahls gab es anlässlich einer Ausstellung in der Wiener Minoritenkirche einen Versuchsaufbau, der belegte, dass die Perspektive des Abendmahls eine Zentralperspektive ist, bei der sich der Augpunkt auf Höhe der Schläfe der Christusfigur befindet. Um das zu beweisen, wurde eine Treppe installiert, die es dem Betrachter ermöglichte, diesen Betrachtungspunkt einzunehmen. Der genaue Abstand des Betrachters wurde von David Sayn durch ein Computermodell errechnet.[10]
Rezeption[Bearbeiten]

Während die zentrale Gestalt Jesu nie in Frage gestellt wurde, fand die Darstellung der Jünger nicht immer Bewunderung. Im Jahr 1916 entrüstete sich der Kunsthistoriker Bernard Berenson:

Was ist das aber für ein Haufen von aufgeregten, gestikulierenden, vorlauten Menschen, deren Gesichter alles andere als angenehm zu empfinden sind. (...) Die sind mir keine gute Gesellschaft![11]
Das Gemälde in der Modernen Kunst[Bearbeiten]

Darstellung im Salzbergwerk Wieliczka, (Polen)

Andy Warhols letzte großformatige Arbeit sollte die Auseinandersetzung mit Leonardo da Vincis Abendmahl werden. Das Gemälde entstand für die neuerstellten Ausstellungsräume der Bank Credito Valtellinese, unmittelbar gegenüber der Heimstatt des Originals des Abendmahls in der Dominikanerkirche Santa Maria delle Grazie in Mailand. Die Bank – der Palast und Tempel des Kapitals – verbindet sich geschickt mit der religiösen Ikone und konterkariert sie zugleich. Warhol aber neutralisierte die dem Auftrag inneliegende Nobilitierung des Kapitals. Er machte sich nicht zu einem schnöden Lieferanten eines Dekors. Er beschäftigte sich nicht mit dem Original, sondern legte das Foto einer billigen Reproduktion des Originalgemäldes von Leonardo zugrunde, die er zusammen mit einer Gipsplastik in einem Ramschladen in Little Italy fand. Daraus entstand ein riesiger Gemäldezyklus, über 100 meist traditionell mit dem Pinsel gemalter Bilder, teilweise über 4 x 10 Meter groß. Er wählte aber für die Ausstellung nicht die handgemalten Arbeiten aus, sondern insgesamt 22 im Siebdruck umgesetzte druckgraphische Versionen.[12]
Verfremdungen in der Werbung und der Kunst[Bearbeiten]

Auf Grund seines hohen Bekanntheitsgrades gibt es zahlreiche Parodien und Verfremdungen des Abendmahls:[13]
1993 erschien ein Werbemotiv der Modemarke Otto Kern, das das Abendmahl zu Werbezwecken nutzte und in Deutschland Kontroversen auslöste: Statt der Jünger saßen barbusige Models um einen Jesus-Darsteller. Das Plakat wurde vom deutschen Werberat gerügt und musste zurückgezogen werden. Das spätere Motiv, in dem 12 Männer um eine Jesus-Darstellerin formiert waren, blieb dagegen weitgehend unbeachtet.[14]
Das französische Modehaus Girbaud warb Ende April 2005 in Frankreich mit einer Anzeige, welche auf dem Abendmahl beruhte. Zu sehen waren zwölf weibliche Models, von denen eine offensichtlich Christus darstellte. Besonders kritisiert wurde jedoch der nackte Rücken des einzig männlichen Apostel-Darstellers, weshalb das Modehaus durch die katholische Kirche wegen Blasphemie verklagt wurde. Am 10. März gab Richter Jean-Claude Magendie dieser Recht und ordnete an, die Plakate in ganz Frankreich binnen drei Tagen zu entfernen. Die Girbauds taten kund, es sei niemals ihre Absicht gewesen, die Gefühle von jemandem zu verletzen.[15]
Yo Mama's Last Supper der US-amerikanischen Künstlerin Renée Cox wurde im Jahr 2001 im Rahmen einer Ausstellung von 94 ,,Schwarzen Fotografen" im Brooklyn Museum ausgestellt und löste eine lebhafte Auseinandersetzung mit dem ehemaligen New Yorker Bürgermeister Rudy Giuliani aus. Jesus ist auf diesem Bild weiblich, schwarz und nackt.[16]
Eine französische Werbung für den VW-Golf zeigte unter dem Motto ,,Freuen wir uns, Freunde, denn der neue Volkswagen ist geboren" Jünger hinter einer langen Tafel, in Posen, die an die der Figuren in da Vincis Abendmahl erinnern.
In Robert Altmans Filmkomödie M*A*S*H wird die Bildkomposition des Abendmahls in einer Szene nachempfunden, in der der Zahnarzt des Lazaretts (genannt: der schmerzlose Bohrer) seinen Abschied feiert, bevor er sich aus Gründen sexueller Unzulänglichkeiten umbringen will. Dabei nimmt er selbst die Rolle Jesu ein, während seine Kollegen die Posen der Jünger einnehmen.
In dem Teil Imperium Romanum des Episodenfilms Mel Brooks – Die verrückte Geschichte der Welt bedient der Aushilfskellner Comicus (Mel Brooks) Jesus und die Jünger, die wie auf Leonardos Bild gruppiert sind. Leonardo da Vinci ist vor Ort und will mit dem Gemälde des letzten Abendmahls beginnen und ruft alle zur Ordnung. Die Gesellschaft gruppiert sich wie auf dem Gemälde. Comicus stellt sich mit einem silbernen Tablett hinter Jesus, welches letztendlich den Heiligenschein auf Leonardos Bild darstellt.
In der 11. Staffel der satirischen US-Fernsehserie South Park wird das Gemälde als Beweis dafür verwendet, dass Petrus ein Hase gewesen sei und – nach Jesu Wille – alle zukünftigen Päpste Hasen sein sollten.
In der Werbekampagne für die US-Serie Battlestar Galactica wird die 4. Staffel mit einem Bild beworben, in dem die Darsteller das Gemälde nachstellen.
In dem Film Biker Boyz zeigt das Gemälde die Mitglieder des Clubs.
In seinem Film Viridiana arrangiert Luis Bunuel die Szene eines Fressgelages nach dem Muster von Leonardos Abendmahl.[17]
Literatur[Bearbeiten]
Leonhard Salleck: Der Schlüssel: Geheime Botschaften in Leonardo da Vincis Abendmahl. Kastner, 2004, ISBN 3-937082-11-5.
Georg Eichholz: Das Abendmahl Leonardo da Vincis: Eine systematische Bildmonographie. scaneg, 1998, ISBN 978-3-89235-222-8.
Georg Eichholz: Tema con variazioni: Briefe rund um Leonardos Mailänder Abendmahl. scaneg, 2009, ISBN 978-3-89235-122-1.
Willi Finkenrath: Das Zeugnis des Wortes: Das Abendmahl des Lionardo da Vinci. edition lionardo, 2003, ISBN 3-9808672-9-3.
Michael Ladwein: Leonardo. Das Abendmahl. Weltendrama und Erlösungstat. Pforte Verlag, 2004, ISBN 3-85636-153-7.
Leo Steinberg: Leonardo's Incessant Last Supper. Zone Books, 2001, ISBN 978-1-890951-18-4.
Christoph Wetzel: Reclams Buch der Kunst. Philipp Reclam jun., Stuttgart 2001, ISBN 3-15-010476-9.
Manfred Wundram: Die berühmtesten Gemälde der Welt. Imprimatur Druck- und Verlagsgesellschaft, Bergisch-Gladbach 1976
Belletristik[Bearbeiten]
Leo Perutz: Der Judas des Leonardo. Deutscher Taschenbuch Verlag, München 2005, ISBN 3-423-13304-X.
Javier Sierra: Das geheime Abendmahl (Historischer Roman) Blanvalet Verlag, ISBN 978-3-442-36500-5.
Weblinks[Bearbeiten]
Commons: Last Supper by Leonardo da Vinci – Sammlung von Bildern, Videos und Audiodateien
Leonardo da Vinci – Das Letzte Abendmahl (zoombar, 16 Gigapixel, nach kostenloser Registrierung)
Leonardo da Vinci – Bilder und Zeichnungen
Besichtigung und Hinweise zur Reservierung – milano24ore
Besichtigung des Gemäldes (ital.)
Die Restaurierung des Gemäldes (www.das-letzte-abendmahl.de (http://www.das-letzte-abendmahl.de))
Mimik und Gestik der zwölf Apostel (www.das-letzte-abendmahl.de (http://www.das-letzte-abendmahl.de))
Das Abendmahl (Leonardo da Vinci). In: Zeno.org.
Einzelnachweise[Bearbeiten]
↑ 460×880 cm nach Prof. Frank Zöllner
↑ http://www.cenacolovinciano.net (http://www.cenacolovinciano.net)
↑ a b Ullmann: Leonardo da Vinci
↑ Wassermann: Leonardo da Vinci
↑ Bedini: Leonardo. Forscher, Künstler, Magier
↑ (Leonardo da Vinci, Codex Madrid.II, 15 v. – Die Perspektive bei den Wandmalereien)
↑ A. Chastel, Leonardo da Vinci: Sämtliche Gemälde und die Schriften zur Malerei. ISBN 3-88814-286-5
↑ Zöllner: Leonardo da Vinci
↑ Peter O. Chotjewitz: Alles über Leonardo aus Vinci. Hamburg, 2004
↑ David Sayn, Christoph Rahofer: Leonardo da Vinci, Mensch – Künstler – Genie. (Versuchsaufbau in der Wiener Minoritenkirche 2006)
↑ Wetzel: Reclams Buch der Kunst
↑ Carla Schulz-Hoffmann: Eigen-sinnige Katholiken Andy Warhol und die Religion Last Supper-Zyklus. Das provokative Vermächtnis eines Künstlers. In: zur debatte. Nr. 01/2008
↑ Giraffen statt Menschen
↑ Bilderstreit und Kulturverlust
↑ Neuinterpretationen von Leonardo da Vincis Abendmahl
↑ Yo Mama's Last Supper, Abb.
↑ Filmstill
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Gemälde von Leonardo da Vinci

Numerating each from left to right 1 to 13:
Which numbers are showing us females ?
body-language !

(Mona) Lisa(?) und " Venus/"James"" ?
Morgenstern Abendstern
unterliegen keinem Zeitdruck
nur ein "kleinlicher" Mann

und:
kein "normaler"Mann beruehrt so einen Mann ,sondern so wird nur eine Frau gestreichelt und so ,wie man es sieht,reagiert nur eine Frau
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3AJudas_Peter_John_Last_supper_copy.jpg (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3AJudas_Peter_John_Last_supper_copy.jpg)

Sincerely
OCL
p.s.: und das mit baertigen Apostelln: der Mann von Welt konnte sich den Barbierservice leisten,nur dann eben ab den Kreuzfahrerzuegen ,um sich von den Saraszenen zu unterscheiden,begannen die europeischen Allierten sich Baerte wachsen zu lassen,
da zwischen beiden Seiten sonst nicht zwischen Frund ? Feind ? unterschieden werden konnte :
dieser Einfluss ging dann in die Kunst ein,bis hin zu irgeneinem Uncle Sam
« Last Edit: November 15, 2013, 08:12:12 PM by lancaIV »

Yesterday I reed in the "faz.net"-online page about "Morgenstern",symbol for Jesus.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/familie/weihnachtslieder/weihnachtslieder-11-der-morgenstern-12681930.html
My religion interpretation and emphaizing goes before A.T. and N.T. .

And did you calculated : 1980 + 4years=1984 / 2019 About what kind of death do you refer ?
The seeming ability of entities to make contact through a computer were first noticed in Germany in 1980, according to Electronic Links to Other Dimensions & Entities. A researcher received a spontaneous message that appeared first as a series of letters, then words and finally phrases that referred clearly to a deceased friend of the investigator. Four years later, an English professor claimed to have exchanged messages (supposedly this was not e-mail) for over 15 months with a group of advanced entities living in the year 2019 as well as a man from 1546.

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 11, 2013, 01:02:16 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 11, 2013, 07:36:09 AM
Its like twisting of two insulated copper wire of #14awg to atleast 7 to 14 twist, making it as a heavy duty caps. ;) 8)
Simple things really works isn't it?. ;)
bye ;) :-*
otits ;D

Thanks for that tidbit of info Teets! I guess I hadn't thought about twisting the parallel bifi. If the series wound bifi gives us high voltage kick, the twisted parallel bifi will be the return kick, will it not?

Like I said before, I believe you've given all the details - many times.
Take care,
Ninong Bob :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 11, 2013, 01:24:36 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RQ6tIgoiJ8&feature=channel_page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RQ6tIgoiJ8&feature=channel_page)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 11, 2013, 02:00:24 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 11, 2013, 01:24:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RQ6tIgoiJ8&feature=channel_page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RQ6tIgoiJ8&feature=channel_page)

Thats how I increased my vac from 80 to 335 v ac using a spark from alligator clip to the primary e core with ferrite magnet ring as spacer to the secondary e core that lit up 40 w of lighting
SO THE TWIST IS UR XMAS GIFT OTITS..... NINONG BOB SAYS .... FOR THE SECONDARY
:) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 11, 2013, 02:13:05 PM

Ning nong ting tong yidle i po
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR1k2oGm7yw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR1k2oGm7yw)

Merry Christmas everyone.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: andrea76 on December 11, 2013, 02:26:55 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVLRKDlE8c4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVLRKDlE8c4)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 11, 2013, 02:32:49 PM

Quote from: andrea76 on December 11, 2013, 02:26:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVLRKDlE8c4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVLRKDlE8c4)

The title is "Magnetic current stirs Electrons' by TheRealVerbz. Re: SEG.

Yes, faraday generators do this, bruce depalma (?)....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on December 11, 2013, 03:10:01 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 11, 2013, 02:13:05 PM
Ning nong ting tong yidle i po
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR1k2oGm7yw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR1k2oGm7yw)

Merry Christmas everyone.

a.king21 Dear.

You thank. Back took that me now !! ;D ;D ;D

Grum, cheers.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: minnie on December 11, 2013, 03:26:40 PM

Hi,
if you look at Wayne Travis's recruitment page on no. 5, I thnk, you will see a
reference to "Mechanical Energy Amplification", whatever that is!
John.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 11, 2013, 04:17:01 PM

Quote from: minnie on December 11, 2013, 03:26:40 PM
Hi,
if you look at Wayne Travis's recruitment page on no. 5, I thnk, you will see a
reference to "Mechanical Energy Amplification", whatever that is!
John.

I've spoken to Wayne Travis personally, and he has sent me a pile of confidential technical information.

He uses a bouyancy system to create electricity.
It is beyond the average amateur, unless you have access to aquatic engineering
items.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 11, 2013, 04:20:06 PM

Quote from: totoalas on December 11, 2013, 02:00:24 PM
Thats how I increased my vac from 80 to 335 v ac using a spark from alligator clip to the primary e core with ferrite magnet ring as spacer to the secondary e core that lit up 40 w of lighting
SO THE TWIST IS UR XMAS GIFT OTITS..... NINONG BOB SAYS .... FOR THE SECONDARY
:) ;)

Could you post a circuit please?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 11, 2013, 04:33:33 PM

Quote from: totoalas on December 11, 2013, 02:00:24 PM
Thats how I increased my vac from 80 to 335 v ac using a spark from alligator clip to the primary e core with ferrite magnet ring as spacer to the secondary e core that lit up 40 w of lighting
SO THE TWIST IS UR XMAS GIFT OTITS..... NINONG BOB SAYS .... FOR THE SECONDARY
:) ;)

Nag jojoke lang ako nagalit ka naman :( , e pinaganda ko lang naman ang sinabi mo date ah. :(

di mo man lang mai share sakin yung nadiskubri mo. :-\

anyway ako binibigay kona lahat at konti nalang natira. :)

napaka saya mo siguro ngayon ano? :)

magiging maselan narin siguro ako ngayon or
titigil nako sa pag bibigay. :) :(
tutal nakapagbigay nako, tama na siguro yon, ano pre. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 11, 2013, 04:49:21 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on December 11, 2013, 08:14:25 AM
You have to understand that my ding-/thnk-ing is wider :

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
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Here we can see 13 humans (figures):
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3A%C3%9Altima_Cena_-_Da_Vinci_5.jpg (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3A%C3%9Altima_Cena_-_Da_Vinci_5.jpg)
Das Abendmahl (Leonardo da Vinci)

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Das Abendmahl
Leonardo da Vinci, 1494–1498
Secco, 422 cm × 904 cm
Santa Maria delle Grazie

Das Abendmahl (italienisch: Il Cenacolo bzw. L'Ultima Cena) des italienischen Malers Leonardo da Vinci ist eines der berühmtesten Wandgemälde der Welt.

Das in der Seccotechnik ausgeführte Werk wurde in den Jahren 1494 bis 1498 im Auftrag des Mailänder Herzogs Ludovico Sforza geschaffen. Es schmückt die Nordwand des Refektoriums (Speisesaal) des Dominikanerklosters Santa Maria delle Grazie in Mailand und gilt als Höhepunkt in Leonardos malerischem Schaffen.Inhaltsverzeichnis [Verbergen]
1 Allgemeines
2 Geschichte
3 Dargestellte
3.1 Bartholomäus, Jakobus und Andreas
3.2 Petrus, Judas und Johannes
3.3 Jesus
3.4 Thomas, Jakobus und Philippus
3.5 Matthäus, Thaddäus und Simon
4 Die Perspektive
5 Rezeption
5.1 Das Gemälde in der Modernen Kunst
6 Verfremdungen in der Werbung und der Kunst
7 Literatur
8 Belletristik
9 Weblinks
10 Einzelnachweise

Allgemeines[Bearbeiten]

Santa Maria delle Grazie

Das Bild misst 422×904 cm[1] und zeigt Jesus mit den zwölf Aposteln in dem Augenblick unmittelbar nachdem dieser ihnen erklärt hat: ,,Einer von euch wird mich verraten". Es gilt als Meilenstein der Renaissance, denn es nahm wegen seiner korrekt wiedergegebenen perspektivischen Tiefe bahnbrechenden Einfluss auf die Malerei des Abendlandes.

Der Tisch und die Apostel sind an der vorderen Begrenzung des Raums angeordnet, in dem das Mahl stattfindet. Dahinter verengt sich der Raum, und die dargestellten Personen scheinen in den Raum des Refektoriums zu blicken. Das Licht, das die Szene ausleuchtet, kommt jedoch nicht aus dem dreiteiligen gemalten Fenster, sondern schräg von links wie das wirkliche Licht, das durch Fenster an der linken Wand einfällt.

In diesem Bild findet man an vielen Stellen den goldenen Schnitt, zum Beispiel dort, wo Jesus und die Person rechts neben ihm (Jakobus der Ältere), die Hände haben, wird das Bild in diesem Verhältnis geteilt.

Aus konservatorischen Gründen ist eine Besichtigung nur in kleinen Gruppen für jeweils 15 Minuten möglich. Das Buchen von Eintrittskarten zu festen Terminen (Zeitfenster-Tickets) ist obligatorisch.[2]
Geschichte[Bearbeiten]

,,Das Abendmahl", Giampietrino (ca. 1520), Royal Academy of Arts, London, wie das Bild einmal ausgesehen haben mag.

Nachdem Leonardo die Arbeit am Tonmodell des Sforza-Denkmals beendet hatte, begann er – ebenfalls im Auftrage des Herzogs Ludovico Sforza – 1495 das Abendmahl im Refektorium des Klosters Santa Maria delle Grazie. Erste Ideen hatte er bereits auf einer Studie zur ,,Anbetung der Könige" skizziert: Eine Gruppe von Männern aus dem Gefolge der Könige an einer Tafel.

In einer Rötelzeichnung ordnete er die Jünger in Zweiergruppen und zeigte dabei noch Anlehnungen an die Abendmahlsdarstellungen Domenico Ghirlandaios und Andrea del Castagnos. Johannes ruht ebenfalls zur Linken Christi mit dem Oberkörper auf dem Tisch und Judas sitzt von den übrigen Aposteln isoliert vor der Tafel.

In einer Notiz beschreibt Leonardo die unterschiedliche Haltung der Jünger:

Einer, der gerade trinken wollte, aber den Becher auf seinem Platz stehen ließ und den Kopf dem Erzählenden zuwandte. Ein andrer, die Finger seiner Hände verschränkend und die Stirn runzelnd, wendet sich seinem Nachbarn zu. Ein andrer, mit offenen Händen, zeigt die Handflächen, hebt die Schultern gegen die Ohren und öffnet den Mund vor Erstaunen. Ein andrer sagt seinem Nächsten etwas ins Ohr, und dieser, der lauscht, dreht sich ihm zu und schenkt ihm Gehör, in einer Hand ein Messer, in der andern das mit diesem Messer durchgeschnittene Brot. Ein andrer, mit einem Messer in der Hand, wirft beim Umdrehen mit dieser Hand einen Becher auf dem Tisch um. Ein andrer legt die Hände auf den Tisch und starrt vor sich hin. Ein andrer bläst auf seinen Bissen. Ein andrer beugt sich vor, um den Erzählenden zu sehen, und beschattet dabei mit der Hand seine Augen. Ein andrer tritt hinter den zurück, der sich vorbeugt, und schaut zwischen der Wand und dem Vorgebeugten auf den Erzählenden.[3]

In sorgfältigen Einzelstudien, die sich heute in Schloss Windsor befinden, bereitete Leonardo die Apostelköpfe vor und suchte nach einem geeigneten Modell für Jesus.

Ludovico Sforza betrachtet Leonardos Abendmahl

Von der Ungeduld des Priors erzählt Vasari folgende Anekdote:

Man sagt, der Prior des Klosters habe Lionardo sehr ungestüm angetrieben, das Werk zu vollenden: ihm schien es seltsam, Lionardo bisweilen einen halben Tag in Nachdenken verloren zu sehen; es wäre ihm lieber gewesen, wenn er gleich Arbeitern, die den Garten umhacken, den Pinsel niemals aus der Hand gelegt hätte. Da ihm nicht Genüge geleistet wurde, beschwerte er sich vor dem Herzog und drängte ihn so lange, bis dieser sich gezwungen sah, Lionardo rufen zu lassen, und ihn freundlich zur Arbeit bewegte, wobei er versicherte, er tue dies nur auf die Zudringlichkeit des Priors hin.
Leonardo kannte den klaren Verstand und den Takt des Fürsten, und deshalb entschloss er sich, mit ihm über die Sache ausführlich zu reden, was er mit dem Prior nie getan hatte. Er äußerte sich weitläufig über die Kunst und machte anschaulich, daß erhabene Geister bisweilen am meisten schaffen, wenn sie am wenigsten arbeiten, nämlich wenn sie erfinden und vollkommene Ideen ausbilden, die die Hände ausdrücken und darstellen nach jenen, die schon im Geiste konzipiert sind. Zwei Köpfe, so fügte er hinzu, wären es, die ihm noch fehlten, der von Christus, nach welchem er nicht auf Erden suchen wolle, und von dem er nicht glaube, daß seiner Einbildungskraft jene Schönheit und himmlische Anmut vorschweben könne, die der menschgewordenen Gottheit gezieme; der andere sei der des Judas, über den er nachdenke. Ihm scheine es unmöglich, passende Gesichtszüge für jenen zu erfinden, dessen trotziger Geist nach so vielfach empfangenen Wohltaten des Entschlusses fähig gewesen wäre, seinen Meister, den Erretter der Welt, zu verraten; nach diesem letzteren indes wolle er suchen, und finde er nichts Besseres, so bliebe ihm der des lästigen und taktlosen Priors gewiß.
Dies brachte den Herzog sehr zum Lachen und er gab Lionardo tausendmal recht. Der arme Prior, in Verwirrung geraten, befleißigte sich, die Arbeiten im Garten zu betreiben, Lionardo aber ließ er in Frieden; dieser führte den Kopf des Judas so trefflich zu Ende, daß er das wahre Bild des Verrates und der Unmenschlichkeit ist; das Haupt Christi dagegen blieb unvollendet ... [3]

Bei der Ausführung versuchte Leonardo, die Öltechnik für die Wandmalerei zu nutzen. Wegen der Feuchtigkeit der Mauer und des Gebrauchs experimenteller organischer Farben, die sich bald als Fehlgriff erwiesen, erlitt das Gemälde jedoch noch zu Lebzeiten Leonardos schwere Schäden durch feine Risse. Im Laufe der Zeit blätterte auch die Farbe über weite Flächen ab. Einer später in die Wand eingezogenen Tür fielen Jesu Füße zum Opfer, die Leonardo ursprünglich abgebildet hatte.

Der Dichter Matteo Bandello, dessen Onkel der Prior des Klosters war, beobachtete Leonardo häufig beim Malen des Abendmahls und berichtet darüber Folgendes:

Er kam oft früh zur Morgendämmerungszeit in den Konvent und ich konnte ihn bei seiner Arbeit beobachten. Eilends stieg er auf das Gerüst, arbeitete fleißig, bis ihn die Schatten des Abends zum Aufhören zwangen, und dachte nie daran, Nahrung zu sich zu nehmen, so sehr war er in seine Arbeit vertieft. Zu anderen Zeiten kam er drei oder vier Tage lang, ohne sein Bild anzurühren, und blieb nur ein paar Stunden mit verschränkten Armen davor stehen und blickte seine Figuren an, als ob er sie selbst kritisierte. Auch sah ich ihn oftmals mittags, ohne nach Schatten zu suchen, auf dem schnellsten Weg in den Konvent eilen, wenn das Glühen der Sonne im Zenit sämtliche Straßen Mailands menschenleer gemacht hatte. Er kam von der Zitadelle, wo er sein kolossales Pferd [das Sforza-Reiterstandbild] modellierte. Im Konvent brachte er ein oder zwei Pinselstriche an, um dann augenblicklich wieder zurückzugehen.[4]

Der französische König Franz I. war so angetan von dem Bild, dass er es von der Wand ablösen lassen und nach Frankreich mitnehmen wollte. Doch die damit verbundenen Schwierigkeiten hatten laut Giorgio Vasari ,,zur Folge, daß seine Majestät die Lust verlor und es [das Bild] den Mailändern blieb".[5]

Gobelin

Mosaikkopie in der Wiener Minoritenkirche

Während der folgenden zwanzig oder dreißig Jahre wurden in Italien und Flandern zahlreiche Kopien angefertigt, die zum Teil noch erhalten sind und einen Eindruck davon geben, wie das Abendmahl ursprünglich ausgesehen haben mag. Als der Dauphin von Frankreich, der spätere Heinrich II., im Jahr 1533 Katharina von Medici heiratete, sandte König Franz I. einen großen Gobelin mit einer Kopie von Leonardos Abendmahl, der heute im Vatikan zu sehen ist. Der Gobelin ist reichhaltig verziert und zeigt im Hintergrund eine komplizierte Architektur im italienisierenden Stil, wie er in Frankreich damals üblich war.

Napoleons Besatzungstruppen machten das Refektorium dann zu einem Pferdestall. Napoléon ließ auch eine Mosaikkopie in Auftrag geben, die jedoch erst nach seinem Sturz beendet wurde und von seinem Schwiegervater Kaiser Franz I gekauft wurde. Für seinen ursprünglich vorgesehenen Aufstellungsort im Belvedere erwies sie sich als zu groß, so dass sie letztlich in die Wiener Minoritenkirche kam.

1943 überstand das Gemälde einen Bombenangriff, der die Südwand des Saals zum Einsturz brachte. Doch das Abendmahl blieb unversehrt, da es von den Mönchen des Klosters mit Sandsäcken geschützt worden war.

Das Abendmahl wurde bereits mehrfach restauriert, vor allem durch Bellotti (1726), Mazza (1770) und Berezzi (1819). Erst in jüngster Zeit (1978 bis 1999) gelang es durch moderne Techniken den Verfall des Bildes aufzuhalten. Heute kann es wieder besichtigt werden, wird jedoch durch Sicherheits- und Staubschleusen geschützt. Pro Stunde werden nur etwa 100 Besucher zugelassen, daher gibt es lange Wartelisten und eine Anmeldung ist notwendig.

1980 wurde die Kirche gemeinsam mit dem Gemälde von der UNESCO zum Weltkulturerbe erklärt.
Dargestellte[Bearbeiten]

Studien Leonardos

Leonardos Komposition dieses traditionellen kirchlichen Themas ist lebhafter/bewegter als frühere Werke. Er verzichtet auf Heiligenscheine und die bildhafte Isolierung des Verräters Judas. Er gruppiert die Apostel in vier Teileinheiten, die auf unterschiedliche Weise auf seine Enthüllung ,,Einer von euch wird mich verraten" reagieren.
Bartholomäus, Jakobus und Andreas[Bearbeiten]

Bartholomäus, Jakobus der Jüngere und Andreas bilden am linken Rand eine Dreiergruppe, die die Überraschung des Moments ausdrückt.
Bartholomäus (wahrscheinlich identisch mit ,,Nathanael" aus dem Johannesevangelium) – blaues Gewand (ganz links). Er soll der Legende nach in Indien, Mesopotamien und Armenien gepredigt haben, wo er auch das Martyrium erlitten haben soll. Astyages soll den Befehl gegeben haben, ihm bei lebendigem Leibe die Haut abzuziehen und ihn anschließend kopfunter zu kreuzigen. Bartholomäus stützt sich auf den Tisch und ist empört.
Jakobus, der Sohn des Alphäus, Bruder des Thaddäus, auch ,,Jakobus der Jüngere" – rotes Gewand (2. v. L). In der Kirchengeschichte wurde Jakobus, der Sohn des Alphäus, auch mit Jakobus dem Kleinen und Jakobus, dem Bruder Jesu gleichgesetzt. Jakobus der Kleine wird in der Bibel nur einmal erwähnt (Mt 27,56) und zwar als Sohn einer Jüngerin Jesu namens Maria und Bruder eines Joses. Jacobus bleibt scheinbar gelassen, doch ist er starr vor Schreck.
Andreas, Bruder des Simon Petrus – gelbes Gewand (3. v. l.). Andreas sei zuerst ein Jünger Johannes des Täufers gewesen, der ihn dann an Jesus wies, worauf er auch seinen Bruder Simon zu Jesus führte mit der Botschaft ,,Wir haben den Messias gefunden" (Joh 1,35-42). Daher kommt sein traditioneller Beiname der Erstberufene. In den Apostellisten erscheint Andreas immer unter den ersten vier Aposteln. Andreas zieht auf diesem Bild seine Schultern hoch und wehrt mit den Händen ab, die besagen: ,,Aber ich doch nicht!"

Bartholomäus, Jakobus und Andreas

Bartholomäus, Jakobus und Andreas

Studie für den Bartholomäus

Bartholomäus mit abgezogener Haut in der Sixtinischen Kapelle
Petrus, Judas und Johannes[Bearbeiten]

Petrus beugt sich zu Jesu Lieblingsjünger Johannes, der den Kopf beugt, während sich der Verräter Judas von beiden distanzierend abwendet.
Simon Petrus (4. v. links; spricht zu Johannes). Nach allen Evangelien lautete sein Name Simon. Paulus von Tarsus dagegen nannte ihn stets Kephas ohne Vornamen. Dieser Ausdruck ist eine Gräzisierung des aramäischen Wortes kefa כיפא, griechisch übersetzt πετρος (petros), latinisiert Petrus. Es bedeutet in beiden Sprachen gewöhnlich ,,Stein". Diesen Beinamen soll Jesus persönlich Simon verliehen haben; wo und wann er dies tat, überliefern die Evangelien unterschiedlich. Mt 16,18 EU erklärt den Beinamen mit Jesu Zusage an Petrus: ,,Auf diesen Felsen will ich meine Kirche bauen." Petrus ist begierig zu erfahren, wer der Verräter sein wird.
Judas Ischariot sitzt im Halbschatten – erkennbar am Geldsäckchen. Vielleicht drückt die angedeutete Drehung Distanzierung aus. Nach allen vier Evangelien soll er in Jerusalem Jesu Festnahme im Garten Getsemani durch die im Sanhedrin führenden Gruppen ermöglicht haben mit der Folge, dass Jesus von diesen an die Römer ausgeliefert und gekreuzigt wurde. Er galt den Urchristen daher als der, der Jesus verriet (Mk 3,19 EU). Judas sitzt im Unterschied zu konventionellen Darstellungen an der gleichen Tischseite wie die übrigen Jünger. Während die Jünger bestürzt diskutieren, verharrt er unbeweglich. Judas ist platziert zwischen dem aufbrausenden Petrus und dem sanften Johannes. Sein Blick geht über das Haupt Jesu hinweg. Über das Modell für den Judas hat der österreichische Schriftsteller Leo Perutz den Roman ,,Der Judas des Leonardo" (postum, 1959) geschrieben: Leonardo da Vinci möchte nach vierzehn Jahren endlich sein Gemälde vollenden, doch es fehlt ihm das Modell für den Kopf des Judas, denn er sucht nach ,,dem allerschlechtesten Menschen in ganz Mailand". Er findet schließlich den böhmischen Kaufmann Joachim Behaim, der nach acht Jahren noch einmal nach Mailand zurückkehrt und sich wundert, dass die Leute über ihn lästern, bis er das Abendmahl ansieht und feststellt, dass Judas sein Gesicht hat.
Johannes (6. v. l.) sitzt an Jesu rechter Seite. Johannes wird in der kirchlichen Tradition mit dem ,,Lieblingsjünger" Jesu aus dem Johannesevangelium identifiziert. Er stand als einziger Jünger unter dem Kreuz. Johannes ist mit sich im Reinen, denn er weiß, dass niemand ihn verdächtigen wird. So sitzt er still da und betrauert das Geschehen. Allerdings gibt es auch Interpretationen, die besagen, dass es sich bei der Darstellung des Johannes um Maria Magdalena handle. Diese Interpretation fußt auf dem Argument, dass man den Brustansatz erkennen könne, wenn man das Bild vergrößere.

Judas, Petrus und Johannes

Judas, Petrus und Johannes

Studie für den Judas

Studie für den Petrus
Jesus[Bearbeiten]

Jesus (mit rotem Gewand und blauem Überwurf) scheint in Richtung seiner nach oben gedrehten Handfläche zu blicken. Die rechte Hand liegt auf dem Tisch. Durch die Zentralperspektive und den Lichteinfall wird Jesu Bedeutung klar hervorgehoben.

Jesus

Jesus ruhig inmitten der aufgeregten Jünger

Jesus in einer älteren Kopie

Studie für den Jesus
Thomas, Jakobus und Philippus[Bearbeiten]

Thomas, Jakobus der Ältere und Philippus drücken mehr Zorn und Fragen aus. Jakobus breitet seine Arme aus und bildet dadurch eine Barriere, die den fragenden Gesten von Thomas (mit erhobenen Zeigefinger) und Philippus (beide Hände zeigen auf seine Brust) Einhalt gebietet.
Thomas, auch ,,Didymos Judas Thomas". Der Name Thomas stammt aus dem Aramäischen und bedeutet ,,Zwilling". Deshalb wird Thomas in der Bibel auch ,,Didymus" (griechisch didymos, δίδυμος) genannt. Nach der Überlieferung ist er der ,,ungläubige Thomas", weil er an der Auferstehung Jesu zunächst zweifelte, bis er selbst die Wundmale des Auferstandenen sehen und berühren durfte. Thomas zeigt zum Himmel als wollte er sagen: ,,Wehe dem Verräter!"
Jakobus, der Sohn des Zebedäus, oder Jakobus der Ältere (sitzt von Jesu aus betrachtet direkt an seiner linken Seite). Er soll der Apostel gewesen sein, der nach der Himmelfahrt Jesu auf der Iberischen Halbinsel predigte. Er breitet seine Arme aus und bildet dadurch eine Barriere zu Jesus.
Philippus – rotes Gewand (4. v. r., gerade aufgesprungen). Philippus wurde von Jesus direkt berufen, ihm nachzufolgen (Johannes 1,43). Er ist es, der das Erlebte dem Nathanael weitererzählte. Philippus ist tief betroffen und kann nicht glauben, dass das Prophezeite wirklich geschieht.

Thomas, Jakobus und Philippus

Thomas, Jakobus und Philippus

Studie für den Philippus

Studie für den Jacobus
Matthäus, Thaddäus und Simon[Bearbeiten]

Matthäus und Thaddäus wenden sich fragend zu dem ganz rechts sitzenden Simon aus Kanaan. Sie debattieren die Enthüllung Jesu, wobei ihre Gesten die Erschütterung verstärken.
Matthäus, der (ehemalige) Steuerpächter und spätere Evangelist (Identität mit dem Evangelisten Matthäus ist aber nicht nachweisbar) – (3. v. R). Nach alter kirchlicher Überlieferung soll Matthäus als erster sein Evangelium in hebräischer Sprache verfasst haben. In seinem Katalog der Kirchenschriftsteller sagt Hieronymus (347–419 n. Chr.) dazu: ,,Matthäus, der auch Levi ist und der von einem Zöllner zu einem Apostel wurde, und zwar als erster aller Evangelisten, verfasste ein Evangelium von Christus in Judäa in der hebräischen Sprache und in hebräischen Schriftzeichen zum Nutzen derjenigen aus der Beschneidung, die geglaubt hatten" ... Matthäus fragt Simon: ,,Kann es stimmen, was uns Jesus gerade gesagt hat?"
Thaddäus, dessen Bruder, auch Judas Thaddäus – (2. v. R.). Die Person Thaddäus ist im Zwölferkreis nach den Quellen nicht eindeutig zu identifizieren und hat zu Spekulationen Anlass gegeben. Er wird auch mit Simon Zelotes identifiziert. Als Kirchenpatrone tauchen beide oft gemeinsam als ,,Sankt Simon und Judas". Thaddäus traut seinen Ohren nicht und fragt Simon, was es mit der Prophezeiung wohl auf sich habe.
Simon Zelotes Kanaanäus – weißes Gewand (ganz rechts). Seinen Beinamen Zelotes, im aramäischen ,,Kananäu", im Deutschen ,,der Eiferer", erhielt er wohl aufgrund seiner ursprünglichen Zugehörigkeit zur radikalen Zelotenpartei, die sich zum Ziel setzten, die Römer gewaltsam aus Israel zu vertreiben. Im Neuen Testament der Bibel erscheint nur sein Name und Beiname, und das auch nur in den Apostellisten; sonstige Details über ihn fehlen vollständig. Nach der Kreuzigung Christi verkündete Simon der Überlieferung nach das Evangelium in Babylonien und Persien, wo er auch zusammen mit Judas Thaddäus den Märtyrertod erlitten haben soll. Simon versucht das Unfassbare zu begreifen.

Matthäus, Thaddäus und Simon

Judas Thaddäus und Simon

Matthäus, Thaddäus und Simon
Die Perspektive[Bearbeiten]

Bildlich dargestellte Fluchtpunktlinien

Leonardo da Vinci äußerte sich im Codex Madrid folgendermaßen zur Perspektive:

...ein Auge, das eine Wandmalerei betrachtet, versetzt sich immer in die Mitte des Bildes. Für sich ist die Perspektive, die eine gerade Wand bietet, falsch, wenn sie nicht der Standort des betrachtenden Auges korrigiert, indem er die Wand perspektivisch verkürzt zeigt.[6]

In der Geschichte perspektivischer Darstellungsweisen vollzog sich im 15. Jahrhundert der Sprung vom Gebrauch handwerklicher Regeln und Erfahrungen zur Anwendung mathematisch fundierter Konstruktionssysteme – das Abendmahl Leonardos ist das Paradebeispiel.

Leonardo schreibt selbst über die Perspektive des Abendmahls:

Wenn man ganz nahe vor dem Abendmahl steht, der Christusfigur gegenüber, erscheinen die seitlichen Teile zwangsläufig verkleinert im Verhältnis zur Mitte des Freskos, die einem näher ist. Wenn, wie wir gesehen haben, die traditionelle -flache- Perspektive die äußersten Seiten des Bildes über Gebühr vergrößert darstellt, so werden sie dafür vom Auge des Betrachters verkleinert, sobald es sich in der Mittelachse befindet; und es lässt sich unschwer zeigen, dass diese beiden Verzerrungen einander aufheben, gesetzt den Fall der Betrachter befindet sich genau an der Spitze der Sichtpyramide, deren Schnitt das Gemälde bilden soll, was der Dritten der vorhin angeführten Voraussetzungen entspricht. In allen anderen Fällen geschieht es, dass die Verzerrungen der flachen Perspektive und die Verzerrungen, welche die kugelförmige, (Leonardos) natürliche Perspektive der wahrgenommenen gemalten Oberfläche aufzwingt, sich summieren oder einander überlagern, anstatt sich aufzuheben; und das Bild erscheint somit -monströs-."[7]

Der Leipziger Kunsthistoriker Frank Zöllner schreibt:

Wie schon die Florentiner Künstler vor ihm, stellt Leonardo das letzte Abendmahl des Herrn in einem nach Regeln der Zentralperspektive konstruierten bühnenartigen Raum dar.[8]

Versuchsaufbau in der Wiener Minoritenkirche (Abendmahlgröße = Originalgröße)

Es handelt sich bei der im Abendmahl angewendeten Perspektive um eine Zentralperspektive, wie wir sie heute noch verwenden. Wie der Name bereits andeutet, definiert sich diese Abbildungsart einer dreidimensionalen Welt auf eine Fläche durch das Vorhandensein eines Projektionszentrums, auch Augpunkt genannt. Bei dem Augpunkt handelt es sich um den Standpunkt des Betrachters. Dieser Augpunkt befindet sich beim Abendmahl nachweislich in der Schläfe der Christusfigur (das ist bei den letzten Restaurierungsarbeiten festgestellt worden – man hat das Loch eines Nagels gefunden[9]), d.h. das von Leonardo da Vinci festgelegte Zentrum des Bildes ist die Schläfe der Christusfigur und gleichzeitig der Punkt, in dem sich alle (perspektivischen) Strahlen treffen. Da Vinci hat die Strahlen mittels eines Nagels und gespannter Schnüre ermittelt.

Zur Perspektive des Abendmahls gab es anlässlich einer Ausstellung in der Wiener Minoritenkirche einen Versuchsaufbau, der belegte, dass die Perspektive des Abendmahls eine Zentralperspektive ist, bei der sich der Augpunkt auf Höhe der Schläfe der Christusfigur befindet. Um das zu beweisen, wurde eine Treppe installiert, die es dem Betrachter ermöglichte, diesen Betrachtungspunkt einzunehmen. Der genaue Abstand des Betrachters wurde von David Sayn durch ein Computermodell errechnet.[10]
Rezeption[Bearbeiten]

Während die zentrale Gestalt Jesu nie in Frage gestellt wurde, fand die Darstellung der Jünger nicht immer Bewunderung. Im Jahr 1916 entrüstete sich der Kunsthistoriker Bernard Berenson:

Was ist das aber für ein Haufen von aufgeregten, gestikulierenden, vorlauten Menschen, deren Gesichter alles andere als angenehm zu empfinden sind. (...) Die sind mir keine gute Gesellschaft![11]
Das Gemälde in der Modernen Kunst[Bearbeiten]

Darstellung im Salzbergwerk Wieliczka, (Polen)

Andy Warhols letzte großformatige Arbeit sollte die Auseinandersetzung mit Leonardo da Vincis Abendmahl werden. Das Gemälde entstand für die neuerstellten Ausstellungsräume der Bank Credito Valtellinese, unmittelbar gegenüber der Heimstatt des Originals des Abendmahls in der Dominikanerkirche Santa Maria delle Grazie in Mailand. Die Bank – der Palast und Tempel des Kapitals – verbindet sich geschickt mit der religiösen Ikone und konterkariert sie zugleich. Warhol aber neutralisierte die dem Auftrag inneliegende Nobilitierung des Kapitals. Er machte sich nicht zu einem schnöden Lieferanten eines Dekors. Er beschäftigte sich nicht mit dem Original, sondern legte das Foto einer billigen Reproduktion des Originalgemäldes von Leonardo zugrunde, die er zusammen mit einer Gipsplastik in einem Ramschladen in Little Italy fand. Daraus entstand ein riesiger Gemäldezyklus, über 100 meist traditionell mit dem Pinsel gemalter Bilder, teilweise über 4 x 10 Meter groß. Er wählte aber für die Ausstellung nicht die handgemalten Arbeiten aus, sondern insgesamt 22 im Siebdruck umgesetzte druckgraphische Versionen.[12]
Verfremdungen in der Werbung und der Kunst[Bearbeiten]

Auf Grund seines hohen Bekanntheitsgrades gibt es zahlreiche Parodien und Verfremdungen des Abendmahls:[13]
1993 erschien ein Werbemotiv der Modemarke Otto Kern, das das Abendmahl zu Werbezwecken nutzte und in Deutschland Kontroversen auslöste: Statt der Jünger saßen barbusige Models um einen Jesus-Darsteller. Das Plakat wurde vom deutschen Werberat gerügt und musste zurückgezogen werden. Das spätere Motiv, in dem 12 Männer um eine Jesus-Darstellerin formiert waren, blieb dagegen weitgehend unbeachtet.[14]
Das französische Modehaus Girbaud warb Ende April 2005 in Frankreich mit einer Anzeige, welche auf dem Abendmahl beruhte. Zu sehen waren zwölf weibliche Models, von denen eine offensichtlich Christus darstellte. Besonders kritisiert wurde jedoch der nackte Rücken des einzig männlichen Apostel-Darstellers, weshalb das Modehaus durch die katholische Kirche wegen Blasphemie verklagt wurde. Am 10. März gab Richter Jean-Claude Magendie dieser Recht und ordnete an, die Plakate in ganz Frankreich binnen drei Tagen zu entfernen. Die Girbauds taten kund, es sei niemals ihre Absicht gewesen, die Gefühle von jemandem zu verletzen.[15]
Yo Mama's Last Supper der US-amerikanischen Künstlerin Renée Cox wurde im Jahr 2001 im Rahmen einer Ausstellung von 94 ,,Schwarzen Fotografen" im Brooklyn Museum ausgestellt und löste eine lebhafte Auseinandersetzung mit dem ehemaligen New Yorker Bürgermeister Rudy Giuliani aus. Jesus ist auf diesem Bild weiblich, schwarz und nackt.[16]
Eine französische Werbung für den VW-Golf zeigte unter dem Motto ,,Freuen wir uns, Freunde, denn der neue Volkswagen ist geboren" Jünger hinter einer langen Tafel, in Posen, die an die der Figuren in da Vincis Abendmahl erinnern.
In Robert Altmans Filmkomödie M*A*S*H wird die Bildkomposition des Abendmahls in einer Szene nachempfunden, in der der Zahnarzt des Lazaretts (genannt: der schmerzlose Bohrer) seinen Abschied feiert, bevor er sich aus Gründen sexueller Unzulänglichkeiten umbringen will. Dabei nimmt er selbst die Rolle Jesu ein, während seine Kollegen die Posen der Jünger einnehmen.
In dem Teil Imperium Romanum des Episodenfilms Mel Brooks – Die verrückte Geschichte der Welt bedient der Aushilfskellner Comicus (Mel Brooks) Jesus und die Jünger, die wie auf Leonardos Bild gruppiert sind. Leonardo da Vinci ist vor Ort und will mit dem Gemälde des letzten Abendmahls beginnen und ruft alle zur Ordnung. Die Gesellschaft gruppiert sich wie auf dem Gemälde. Comicus stellt sich mit einem silbernen Tablett hinter Jesus, welches letztendlich den Heiligenschein auf Leonardos Bild darstellt.
In der 11. Staffel der satirischen US-Fernsehserie South Park wird das Gemälde als Beweis dafür verwendet, dass Petrus ein Hase gewesen sei und – nach Jesu Wille – alle zukünftigen Päpste Hasen sein sollten.
In der Werbekampagne für die US-Serie Battlestar Galactica wird die 4. Staffel mit einem Bild beworben, in dem die Darsteller das Gemälde nachstellen.
In dem Film Biker Boyz zeigt das Gemälde die Mitglieder des Clubs.
In seinem Film Viridiana arrangiert Luis Bunuel die Szene eines Fressgelages nach dem Muster von Leonardos Abendmahl.[17]
Literatur[Bearbeiten]
Leonhard Salleck: Der Schlüssel: Geheime Botschaften in Leonardo da Vincis Abendmahl. Kastner, 2004, ISBN 3-937082-11-5.
Georg Eichholz: Das Abendmahl Leonardo da Vincis: Eine systematische Bildmonographie. scaneg, 1998, ISBN 978-3-89235-222-8.
Georg Eichholz: Tema con variazioni: Briefe rund um Leonardos Mailänder Abendmahl. scaneg, 2009, ISBN 978-3-89235-122-1.
Willi Finkenrath: Das Zeugnis des Wortes: Das Abendmahl des Lionardo da Vinci. edition lionardo, 2003, ISBN 3-9808672-9-3.
Michael Ladwein: Leonardo. Das Abendmahl. Weltendrama und Erlösungstat. Pforte Verlag, 2004, ISBN 3-85636-153-7.
Leo Steinberg: Leonardo's Incessant Last Supper. Zone Books, 2001, ISBN 978-1-890951-18-4.
Christoph Wetzel: Reclams Buch der Kunst. Philipp Reclam jun., Stuttgart 2001, ISBN 3-15-010476-9.
Manfred Wundram: Die berühmtesten Gemälde der Welt. Imprimatur Druck- und Verlagsgesellschaft, Bergisch-Gladbach 1976
Belletristik[Bearbeiten]
Leo Perutz: Der Judas des Leonardo. Deutscher Taschenbuch Verlag, München 2005, ISBN 3-423-13304-X.
Javier Sierra: Das geheime Abendmahl (Historischer Roman) Blanvalet Verlag, ISBN 978-3-442-36500-5.
Weblinks[Bearbeiten]
Commons: Last Supper by Leonardo da Vinci – Sammlung von Bildern, Videos und Audiodateien
Leonardo da Vinci – Das Letzte Abendmahl (zoombar, 16 Gigapixel, nach kostenloser Registrierung)
Leonardo da Vinci – Bilder und Zeichnungen
Besichtigung und Hinweise zur Reservierung – milano24ore
Besichtigung des Gemäldes (ital.)
Die Restaurierung des Gemäldes (www.das-letzte-abendmahl.de (http://www.das-letzte-abendmahl.de))
Mimik und Gestik der zwölf Apostel (www.das-letzte-abendmahl.de (http://www.das-letzte-abendmahl.de))
Das Abendmahl (Leonardo da Vinci). In: Zeno.org.
Einzelnachweise[Bearbeiten]
↑ 460×880 cm nach Prof. Frank Zöllner
↑ http://www.cenacolovinciano.net (http://www.cenacolovinciano.net)
↑ a b Ullmann: Leonardo da Vinci
↑ Wassermann: Leonardo da Vinci
↑ Bedini: Leonardo. Forscher, Künstler, Magier
↑ (Leonardo da Vinci, Codex Madrid.II, 15 v. – Die Perspektive bei den Wandmalereien)
↑ A. Chastel, Leonardo da Vinci: Sämtliche Gemälde und die Schriften zur Malerei. ISBN 3-88814-286-5
↑ Zöllner: Leonardo da Vinci
↑ Peter O. Chotjewitz: Alles über Leonardo aus Vinci. Hamburg, 2004
↑ David Sayn, Christoph Rahofer: Leonardo da Vinci, Mensch – Künstler – Genie. (Versuchsaufbau in der Wiener Minoritenkirche 2006)
↑ Wetzel: Reclams Buch der Kunst
↑ Carla Schulz-Hoffmann: Eigen-sinnige Katholiken Andy Warhol und die Religion Last Supper-Zyklus. Das provokative Vermächtnis eines Künstlers. In: zur debatte. Nr. 01/2008
↑ Giraffen statt Menschen
↑ Bilderstreit und Kulturverlust
↑ Neuinterpretationen von Leonardo da Vincis Abendmahl
↑ Yo Mama's Last Supper, Abb.
↑ Filmstill
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Gemälde von Leonardo da Vinci

Numerating each from left to right 1 to 13:
Which numbers are showing us females ?
body-language !

(Mona) Lisa(?) und " Venus/"James"" ?
Morgenstern Abendstern
unterliegen keinem Zeitdruck
nur ein "kleinlicher" Mann

und:
kein "normaler"Mann beruehrt so einen Mann ,sondern so wird nur eine Frau gestreichelt und so ,wie man es sieht,reagiert nur eine Frau
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3AJudas_Peter_John_Last_supper_copy.jpg (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3AJudas_Peter_John_Last_supper_copy.jpg)

Sincerely
OCL
p.s.: und das mit baertigen Apostelln: der Mann von Welt konnte sich den Barbierservice leisten,nur dann eben ab den Kreuzfahrerzuegen ,um sich von den Saraszenen zu unterscheiden,begannen die europeischen Allierten sich Baerte wachsen zu lassen,
da zwischen beiden Seiten sonst nicht zwischen Frund ? Feind ? unterschieden werden konnte :
dieser Einfluss ging dann in die Kunst ein,bis hin zu irgeneinem Uncle Sam
« Last Edit: November 15, 2013, 08:12:12 PM by lancaIV »

Yesterday I reed in the "faz.net"-online page about "Morgenstern",symbol for Jesus.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/familie/weihnachtslieder/weihnachtslieder-11-der-morgenstern-12681930.html (http://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/familie/weihnachtslieder/weihnachtslieder-11-der-morgenstern-12681930.html)
My religion interpretation and emphaizing goes before A.T. and N.T. .

And did you calculated : 1980 + 4years=1984 / 2019 About what kind of death do you refer ?
The seeming ability of entities to make contact through a computer were first noticed in Germany in 1980, according to Electronic Links to Other Dimensions & Entities. A researcher received a spontaneous message that appeared first as a series of letters, then words and finally phrases that referred clearly to a deceased friend of the investigator. Four years later, an English professor claimed to have exchanged messages (supposedly this was not e-mail) for over 15 months with a group of advanced entities living in the year 2019 as well as a man from 1546.

Sincerely
OCWL

Well, me too wondering about your post, almost taking all the pages and still can't get what you want to express wow. ;D

I've even use my extra ordinary backtracking technique and still i'm failed to get you ;D

Well, its either you want to hide my info. or really to hide me. is that it? :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 11, 2013, 05:25:18 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 11, 2013, 04:33:33 PM

Nag jojoke lang ako nagalit ka naman :( , e pinaganda ko lang naman ang sinabi mo date ah. :(

di mo man lang mai share sakin yung nadiskubri mo. :-\

anyway ako binibigay kona lahat at konti nalang natira. :)

napaka saya mo siguro ngayon ano? :)

magiging maselan narin siguro ako ngayon or
titigil nako sa pag bibigay. :) :(
tutal nakapagbigay nako, tama na siguro yon, ano pre. :)

Oo naman wawa ka naman nga nga pag dating ng janurary Pac iao na nila lahat
Daig mo pa nga google lalong nang igigggggle talo sa Hi blood na dinuguan
Without thinking anymore Made in China ang dating BOSSSSING

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 11, 2013, 05:34:20 PM

Quote from: totoalas on December 11, 2013, 05:25:18 PM
Oo naman wawa ka naman nga nga pag dating ng janurary Pac iao na nila lahat
Daig mo pa nga google lalong nang igigggggle talo sa Hi blood na dinuguan
Without thinking anymore Made in China ang dating BOSSSSING

Ah, ganun ba. ;D

well, nasa Dios naman ang huling halakhak at makikisabay nalang ako. ;D

They taught samson is already lose, but in the end wins. ;D ;D ;D

Nasa eat bulaga lang si bossing nagpapatawa kahit di kalbo. ;D

I don't regret to what i give, its for the sake of my soul, and for everyone,
and that is the real brilliancy there. ;) ;D
That is what you call multi tasking technique, working for the two dimension. 8)

And that's me
otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 11, 2013, 06:19:38 PM

http://www.overunity.com/6734/real-ou-effect-to-share-with-everyone/150/#.UqjulJDZdWA (http://www.overunity.com/6734/real-ou-effect-to-share-with-everyone/150/#.UqjulJDZdWA)

Look at hartiberlin's schematic

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 11, 2013, 06:55:00 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 11, 2013, 06:19:38 PM
http://www.overunity.com/6734/real-ou-effect-to-share-with-everyone/150/#.UqjulJDZdWA (http://www.overunity.com/6734/real-ou-effect-to-share-with-everyone/150/#.UqjulJDZdWA)

Look at hartiberlin's schematic

same technik of Gyula only double kick into primary :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 11, 2013, 06:56:19 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 11, 2013, 05:34:20 PM

Ah, ganun ba. ;D

well, nasa Dios naman ang huling halakhak at makikisabay nalang ako. ;D

They taught samson is already lose, but in the end wins. ;D ;D ;D

Nasa eat bulaga lang si bossing nagpapatawa kahit di kalbo. ;D

I don't regret to what i give, its for the sake of my soul, and for everyone,
and that is the real brilliancy there. ;) ;D
That is what you call multi tasking technique, working for the two dimension. 8)

And that's me ALIEEEN BRO ESTE AMEN
otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 11, 2013, 07:09:09 PM

Quote from: totoalas on December 11, 2013, 06:55:00 PM
same technik of Gyula only double kick into primary :)

Hi, totoalas,

Who or what is Gyual? Where can we find info on Gyula?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 11, 2013, 07:33:51 PM

Napaka hirap talagang magbigay di ba. pero at least nagawa ko. :)

kaya tawa lang tayo. buwi hihihihihihihi ;D ;D ;D

at kahit papano nakikilala natin ang mga tao sa isat isa kung sinu nga sila. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 11, 2013, 07:50:52 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 11, 2013, 07:09:09 PM

Hi, totoalas,

Who or what is Gyual? Where can we find info on Gyula?

True elite Hero member back track on this thread

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 12, 2013, 03:51:59 AM

Quote from: totoalas on December 11, 2013, 07:50:52 PM
True elite Hero member back track on this thread

Thanks.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 12, 2013, 05:09:46 AM

Mr. Oracion : its really just actually a matter of common chachacha ;D ;D ;D , lieber einen Zeitsprung als nen Sprung in der Schuessel

Numerating each from left to right 1 to 13:
Which numbers are showing us females ?
body-language !

(Mona) Lisa(?) und " Venus/"James"" ?
Morgenstern Abendstern
unterliegen keinem Zeitdruck
nur ein "kleinlicher" Mann

Yesterday I reed in the "faz.net"-online page about "Morgenstern",symbol for Jesus.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/familie/weihnachtslieder/weihnachtslieder-11-der-morgenstern-12681930.html (http://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/familie/weihnachtslieder/weihnachtslieder-11-der-morgenstern-12681930.html)
My religion interpretation and emphaizing goes before A.T. and N.T. .

correlation : you knoff :P what a "cor" ??? is ? Not (chor) la(do)la(re)la(mi)la(fa)la(so)la(si)la(jemand do?) :-* ::) ;)

a.king21 : "who or what is Gyual ?" you are slowly-really slowly(how long are you now member ?)-coming to your "PERFEKT" situation -
Wo oder was ist Behle ? no tempi but mores related
My laugh-tank-circuit thanks u2 answer-mark

Hasta la vista
OCWL

alternative Nobel-prize for "translator" (original : sowieso "bloedes Zeug")
http://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Schizophrener-Dolmetscher-halluzinierte-article11904171.html (http://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Schizophrener-Dolmetscher-halluzinierte-article11904171.html)
"No Spotts" like Churchill wanted to say (very bad in German translation)
http://www.spiegel.de/spam/mandela-trauerfeier-gebaerden-dolmetscher-ein-schwindler-a-938585.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 12, 2013, 06:39:37 AM

lancaIV

Get a life

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 12, 2013, 08:00:59 AM

Tito: So phase 1 is to charge cap to hv using igniter patent or ozone patent.
Phase 2: 180 degrees apart is discharge hv into sequence of trafos .
(Use bridge to rectify.)
Some of trafos can loop back to phase1.
Is that it??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 12, 2013, 10:01:06 AM

Get a life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LBaeKIxNIA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LBaeKIxNIA)
Do not be worry :-\ ,be ::) : happy :)
Atè logo
OCWL
p.s.: It is told to us that T.T.Brown get Ozone-intoxication ,HV-worksphere

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Overschuss on December 12, 2013, 10:59:45 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 11, 2013, 07:09:09 PM

Hi, totoalas,

Who or what is Gyual? Where can we find info on Gyula?

@ a.king21

I guess, he refers to this diagram by (OU.com - Member) Gyulasun:

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 12, 2013, 03:58:10 PM

thanks overschuss. I am aware of the diagram. I didn't know it was Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Overschuss on December 12, 2013, 05:27:43 PM

Hi a.king21 and all

If i understood all the hints from Tito correctly, then, generally one have to precharge a cap with HV and discharge it in a Transformer with multiple (very short in duration) Impulses. And the bi-filar (primary and secondary ?) windings have to be twisted.

Is that right so far, Tito ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 12, 2013, 09:18:30 PM

Hi everyone good day ;D

i believe i have given a lot. And only one point is remaining secret. :) ;) 8)

i think its now time for me to stop. :)

Though i made everyone's mad, i think i made them laugh and think. :o

i hope someday well see each other and be my friend. :)

in my simple way i hope you've got something. :)

Merry Christmas and happy new year :)

if you want to ask something then you can email. at titoracionpogi@yahoo.com
Well, answers are not sure in their quality. ;D

@Bob smith
i believe you can do it. :)

Thanks for your kindness. ;)

My real name is Jose Bonifacio Rizal. ;D
Otits L. Noicaro now permanently signing off. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on December 13, 2013, 12:42:28 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 12, 2013, 09:18:30 PM
Hi everyone good day ;D

i believe i have given a lot. And only one point is remaining secret. :) ;) 8)

i think its now time for me to stop. :)

Though i made everyone's mad, i think i made them laugh and think. :o

i hope someday well see each other and be my friend. :)

in my simple way i hope you've got something. :)

Merry Christmas and happy new year :)

if you want to ask something then you can email. at titoracionpogi@yahoo.com
Well, answers are not sure in their quality. ;D

@Bob smith
i believe you can do it. :)

Thanks for your kindness. ;)

My real name is Jose Bonifacio Rizal. ;D
Otits L. Noicaro now permanently signing off. ;D

Hi, Tito bro
don't leave plz. this thread needs you.
you find a easy and controlable way how to use Tesla coil , I respect you!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 13, 2013, 02:18:12 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 12, 2013, 09:18:30 PM
Hi everyone good day ;D

i believe i have given a lot. And only one point is remaining secret. :) ;) 8)

MANILA MEMORIAL FREE CHAT WIFI

i think its now time for me to stop. :) WHHHHHHEEEEEY D NGA ANYARE??????????

Though i made everyone's mad, i think i made them laugh and think. :o

AKALA MO LANG YUN GIGIL NGA D KA LANG MASAKAL HIHIHI

i hope someday well see each other and be my friend. :)

MONDAY TRU SUNDAY PATI HOLIDAY BESTIE :)

in my simple way i hope you've got something. :)
NOTHING NADA ENSAYMADA BYUDA NATINGA D BA ????

Merry Christmas and happy new year :) PASKO NA SINTA KO
HANAP HANAP KITA :) :) :)

if you want to ask something then you can email. at titoracionpogi@yahoo.com FASHBOOOK TWEYYYT TWEYYYT

Well, answers are not sure in their quality. ;D YES OR NO LANG ????

@Bob smith
i believe you can do it. :) PAANO AKO ???

Thanks for your kindness. ;) EMOTE KAMOTE

My real name is Jose Bonifacio Rizal. ;D ENDE

TEYYYTO VEEEC JOOOOOEY
Otits L. Noicaro now permanently signing off. ;D
EVERY YEAR GANYAN NA YAN LILIPAS DIN YAN

MAMIMISS KA NAMIN BRO AKALA KO 3 YEARS PA ULI TO
KAKANDADO MO N BA ANG PUSO MO AT SENULED NA TO ?

ENIWAY BY THE HI WAY BBLIK NA SI WALE SA EB BABES

MALIGAYANG PASKO SA FAMILIA MO
SAMAHAN KA SANA NG KULOG AT KIDLAT NA SYANG SIMBULO NG LAKAS AT LIWANAG NG SANLIBUTAN

OTOT

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 13, 2013, 02:44:19 AM

Quote from: totoalas on December 13, 2013, 02:18:12 AM
MAMIMISS KA NAMIN BRO AKALA KO 3 YEARS PA ULI TO : KALA MULANG YUN ;D
KAKANDADO MO N BA ANG PUSO MO AT SENULED NA TO ? OO DAHIL SAYO ;D ;D ;D

ENIWAY BY THE HI WAY BBLIK NA SI WALE SA EB BABES: SEGURO KALBO KA RIN, KASE MARUNONG KARING MAGPATAWA E, HEHEHEHEHHEHHEHEHEHHEHEHEHHE ;D

MALIGAYANG PASKO SA FAMILIA MO: GANUN DIN SAYO ;)
SAMAHAN KA SANA NG KULOG AT KIDLAT NA SYANG SIMBULO NG LAKAS AT LIWANAG NG SANLIBUTAN: OO NAMAN!
AT SAYO, SAMAHAN KA SANA NG APOY AT ASUPRE NA SIMBULO NG BWAHAHAHHAHA ;D ;D ;D

OTOT MO SINLAKAS NG KABAYO HINEBRA SAN MIGUEL BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHA ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 13, 2013, 03:24:13 AM

EDIT TAMAAN DI SAMAHAN PAG D KA SUMAGOT :P
PM PM WEYT TWEYT LANG PAG MAY TEYM :'( LALLY VINCE AT ERIC
KIDDING ASIDE
WE ARE NOT ALMOST THERE BUT BEYOND SA DAKU PARUOON
AHUUUUUUUUUU JUST DO IT DOT DOT DOT LIKE SA SLOT MACHINE
FOR OUR ou FRIENDS PS BEAR WITH US ON THIS TEARFUL JOURNEY OF OUR FRIEND tITOT WEATHER PROOF COMMENT PROOF AND BEST OF ALL OUR LINK TEACHER / TIPSTER

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 13, 2013, 03:44:39 AM

Quote from: totoalas on December 13, 2013, 03:24:13 AM

EDIT TAMAAN DI SAMAHAN PAG D KA SUMAGOT :P EDI SAMAHAN ULIT DI TAMAAN! ;D
PM PM WEYT TWEYT LANG PAG MAY TEYM :'( LALLY VINCE AT ERIC : FANS KA? HAHAHAHAHHHA
KIDDING ASIDE: ASIDE KIDDING:
WE ARE NOT ALMOST THERE BUT BEYOND SA DAKU PARUOON: NOT YET AND CANNOT GET BEYOND
AHUUUUUUUUUU JUST DO IT DOT DOT DOT LIKE SA SLOT MACHINE: MATSING BA SABI MO? ;D
FOR OUR ou FRIENDS PS BEARBRAND WITH US ON THIS TEARTEAR GANG JOURNEY OF OUR FRIEND OTOTIN WEATHER PROOF COMMENT PROOF AND BEST OF ALL OUR LINK TEACHER / TIPSTER
OH, INGLESH TSK TSK TSK :( :( :( GUSTO SAMA PATI CROWD. ??? ;D ;D ;D
: WAWA NAMAN, PA ILAW ILAW KINILAW LANG LED PA ;D ;D WALA YAN PREHAHAHHHHAHA ;D

PARANG DESPERADO NANG DATING AH! HAHAHAHA ;D
SINGUT LANG NG BYGONE MAALIS YAN ;)

I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR YOUR CHILDISH BRO. WOW ENGLISH GALIS ;D
BASTA AKO HAPPY :P
I'M FREE! FREE! FREE! FREE! AND HAPPY ;D
BASTA DUGTONG LANG NANG DUGTONG HANGGANG SUMABOG ANG CIRCUIT! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 13, 2013, 04:47:55 AM

"It was connected to the condensers, and these condensers were discharged through a primary which excited the secondary; the antenna was included in the secondary..." find more ::)

That's whole stupid secret... kept by people for 100 years to protect big money

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 13, 2013, 04:53:04 AM

Tito ,oh Tito ;) So you are now two heroes of Phillippines ? http://asianhistory.about.com/od/philippines/tp/Revolutionary-Heroes-of-the-Philippines.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 13, 2013, 05:07:14 AM

Quote from: forest on December 13, 2013, 04:47:55 AM
"It was connected to the condensers, and these condensers were discharged through a primary which excited the secondary; the antenna was included in the secondary..." find more ::)

That's whole stupid secret... kept by people for 100 years to protect big money

WHOA :o :o :o , if that is the secret, why it cannot make me laugh?. :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 13, 2013, 05:21:34 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 13, 2013, 05:07:14 AM

WHOA :o :o :o , if that is the secret, why it cannot make me laugh?. :-\

Secret nga eh
Hi Forest
Just like Tesla Stanley Meyer and Dingel hidden from the commerce of man
No tax No glory
Just read all previouspost and as Tito said all the recepies are there :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 13, 2013, 06:40:41 AM

Quote from: patototalas on December 13, 2013, 05:21:34 AM
Secret nga eh : si lolo patawa na naman, parang kalbo ???

Forest : easy bro okay okay i'll try to laugh at your revelation. basilyo, crispin, ototin >:( ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D bwa hhahahahahahhhaha

Just like Tesla Stanley Meyer and Dingel hidden from the commerce of man :nadi dingel tuluy ako
No tax No glory : No money no honey :-* :-\
Just read all previous post and as patotot said all the recepies are there :)

: oo, meron jang adobo, bulalo, tinola, sinigang, nilaga at kare kare.
what dish do you want? i'll cook it for you. 8) :)
magnetic soil is now available via counter. masarap kasama ng kanin. ;D

Motto: dugtong lang ng dugtong sa circuit hanggang sumabog at makikita mo ang energy nag
pifree sa over the unity. :) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 13, 2013, 07:58:12 AM

This is a little off topic but not really its all energy related, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suBp3ai-xG8 notice the top of the craft gets ionized, now thats a capacitor discharge eh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 13, 2013, 08:23:01 AM

This has been a Tesla-technique related invention,optimized the ancient (1915) status quo:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19220710&CC=GB&NR=157262A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19220710&CC=GB&NR=157262A&KC=A)and this then 2008/9 modernized :

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=envez 2./3.
J.Ferreira worked these two without my presence but with the delivered Traun Forschungsanstalten papers.
Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 13, 2013, 08:58:45 AM

As someone who has been reading Tito's posts I have come to the following conclusion:

Tito has at least 2 different devices which in itself is a huge achievement.

1 Based on the TPU in which he uses Tesla's ozone patent as an economical HV kick generator.
2 a capacitor based system, again using either the ozone pat or the igniter pat as a hv kick generator.

I believe he may have also developed a third, based on the Colorado springs "extra coil" resonant rise, but I am not sure.

Obviously Tito had been able to mix and match once he figured it out.

The annoying fact is that this is simple and we have to forget the useless laws of physics to work it out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 13, 2013, 09:06:51 AM

Tito,you have competition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvcrqODpDY4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvcrqODpDY4)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 13, 2013, 09:29:09 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 13, 2013, 06:40:41 AM

Bro nagover voltage nag at sumabog bakit alarm mo that means I'm on the right track
Led slang load ko dahil nagbebenta ako .ng solar lighting
No offense as self defence color coded tau magusap para d magugle ok

Hv produced continuous spark eliminating the spark gap between contacts

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 13, 2013, 12:12:40 PM

Electric motor arrangement:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=17&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010927&CC=DE&NR=10013891A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=17&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010927&CC=DE&NR=10013891A1&KC=A1)

Baltzar Carl von Platen(Stockholm,Sweden),known ? Filed 1934
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=1949504A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19340306&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=1949504A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19340306&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
the same ? ::) http://www.rexresearch.com/platen/platen.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/platen/platen.htm)

static converter,filed 1941 :
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19421222&CC=US&NR=2305599A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19421222&CC=US&NR=2305599A&KC=A)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on December 13, 2013, 12:43:47 PM

No the secret is in the Tesla radiant receiver + TMT in double mode + snowball

Quote from: a.king21 on December 13, 2013, 08:58:45 AM
As someone who has been reading Tito's posts I have come to the following conclusion:

Tito has at least 2 different devices which in itself is a huge achievement.

1 Based on the TPU in which he uses Tesla's ozone patent as an economical HV kick generator.
2 a capacitor based system, again using either the ozone pat or the igniter pat as a hv kick generator.

I believe he may have also developed a third, based on the Colorado springs "extra coil" resonant rise, but I am not sure.

Obviously Tito had been able to mix and match once he figured it out.

The annoying fact is that this is simple and we have to forget the useless laws of physics to work it out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 14, 2013, 04:10:32 AM

Reading the "Citing cocuments" http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citingDocuments?CC=US&NR=2305599A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19421222&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP
from the Bauer publication and doing the conclusion:

ordinary= simple
microphone technique : acoustics to membrane to signal
+ loudspeaker(megaphone) conversion technique

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 14, 2013, 09:14:27 AM

Quote from: bboj on December 13, 2013, 12:43:47 PM
No the secret is in the Tesla radiant receiver + TMT in double mode + snowball

Can you explain TMT?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 14, 2013, 12:31:47 PM

Tesla Magnifying Transmitter , but I think the principle is still unknown ::) they are touching surface only

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on December 14, 2013, 01:28:44 PM

One TMT configuration includes double transmiter. The first discharges at peak into the second one which is positioned on the same ground or conductor. The second TMT must be positioned so ( on the ground or conductor ) that the discharge adds to the disturbance or wave of the first TMT. So the successive discharges always add - that is Titos snowball.
But these are Titos words. I for now have no means to test this configuration

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 14, 2013, 07:29:30 PM

;) understanding the fields at play and how they run together gives us some insight.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 14, 2013, 08:04:50 PM

Iv been thinking about the TPU
The electric field and the magnetic field are proportional.
Ed Leedskalnin's PMH
If we have a large core the magnetic capacitance of the core will be large and so the accompanying electric field , but this also means the electric field will only fall to a certain level if boosted, it will level out to match its magnetic counterpart, it will also take more power to boost it.

But if the magnetic capacitance is small the electric field will be small as well, it wont take as much power to boost it and it will have a larger rise and fall variance.

A single wire core will be more responsive, will have a larger rise and fall and will take less power than a large core.

The TPU is a pulsed DC system, no core reversal
Im not sure how he did it but I will figure it out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 14, 2013, 08:39:00 PM

A magnet in a toroid core should act like a magnetic diode, Iv read Magnecoaster uses this principle.
We must build with direction.
If the core cant be reversed the electric field will not reverse as well.
We may get that flywheel after all

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 15, 2013, 08:37:27 AM

I guess there are lots of possibility's and experiments to try :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 15, 2013, 09:34:00 AM

So how do coils transfer energy do they spin each others field or do their fields join.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 15, 2013, 10:07:48 AM

ive used e core ferrite with ring magnet as spacer

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 15, 2013, 06:17:52 PM

Quote from: totoalas on December 15, 2013, 10:07:48 AM
ive used e core ferrite with ring magnet as spacer

I prefer the wedding ring, and honeymoon in the bed spacer. ;D

And when the magic smoke is starting to come out of your device then that's the time to
make a wish. 8) ;D

collection of exploded bulb is not a bad idea. :) :o ;D

ALIBABA ALADDIN ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 15, 2013, 06:32:20 PM

Welcome back :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 15, 2013, 07:43:42 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 15, 2013, 09:34:00 AM
So how do coils transfer energy do they spin each others field or do their fields join.

1) compression/rarified waves in a linear motion... (hydraulic RAM figure sorta)
left arrow shows direction of flow; assuming non completely impeded flow where...
red and blue arrows show peeks of compresssion and rarification

2) below that is two conductors. Current is passing in the left, and it has a static blue circle field.

as the current increases, the compressed wave forces more magnetic force outwards that induces current in the near wire
as it goes to rarified state that influence diminishes... and eventually becomes a state to remove from the other side, which will cause a current in the other direction...

There is a hazy blue line that sort of outlines a curve that may be extended into dual vorticii..

the graph is shows with time expanded on the axis... really that line represents the same spacial point

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 15, 2013, 07:55:29 PM

dual vortexes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr98n0cpztE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr98n0cpztE) there is one that goes out the chamber floor, but there is another on the right side of this video that goes the opposite direction. Off the bottom is where there are two vortexes (because the purple die is concentrated in the center) that form a helix... and rolling motion, which would help the vortex in the floor also maintain a rolling motion.
and also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J3pd1yyh7k (another ink demonstration)

note the double helix coming from the side channels...

Full explanation here in 3 parts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlCW2lvacRE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjCJf8a5W9w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eNRRE2so-o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 15, 2013, 08:59:00 PM

It might be helpful to note that we're dealing with moving electrons.

The north field is always the same...

the resulting apparent field (which would be detectable by external means) on that core is the result of a current motion which is the result of an excess or deficit of near fields (particles)

two electrons moving in the same direction will still appear to have an electrostatic effect, because they will both have norths, and these will repel. Two electrons moving in opposite directions still repel, because they still have two norths between them.

a static charge is apparently not stable in a macro scale; but it is the monopole magnet. a positive is wound oppositely from a negative, and at rest states their force is everywhere the same externally(?).

A moving charge stops being a monopole and becomes a dipole. (heisenberg)... since we'd have to stop the motion to see if it is a charge, we can't know it was a dipole when it was moving, and if we allow it to move and be a dipole then we can't know if it is still an electrostatic.

so a moving charge near a static field (van de graff)... must be repelled.. but will probably be a significantly higher inertia (spin weight?) and result in disturbance of the at rest particles instead...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 15, 2013, 10:57:01 PM

Considering near induction more...

There is this pulse when current changes... so somehow it's not 'smooth' as the longitudinal wave depicts, but does have sharp edges...

Tried to model current flow indicated by a graph sideways, but also the size of circle... and a near inductor ...

The down run of current is probably a result of the forward EMF... keeping the current moving in that conductor.. on both sides;

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 15, 2013, 11:31:24 PM

You know, Tito,
I've just been looking at Otto's posts (The late Otto).
That man is a hero and deserves our prayers.
I've replicated his first set up and am looking further.
Wouldn't it be nice if someone who learnt from him could give a little back;
Just saying.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on December 16, 2013, 12:19:38 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 15, 2013, 11:31:24 PM
You know, Tito,
I've just been looking at Otto's posts (The late Otto).
That man is a hero and deserves our prayers.
I've replicated his first set up and am looking further.
Wouldn't it be nice if someone who learnt from him could give a little back;
Just saying.

what Otto's post are u talking about?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 16, 2013, 12:47:11 AM

I've been looking back through your posts Tito, and I guess you've given a heap of tips.
I'm going to try the parallel trafo and series caps I think. Getting ready for a big bang.
But what intrigues me is the three wire trick. That's got to be the Kapanadze thing.
How about a clue on that one??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 16, 2013, 12:51:35 AM

Quote from: Leely on December 16, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
what Otto's post are u talking about?

http://www.overunity.com/profile/otto.2747/area/showposts/#.Uq6UupDZdWA (http://www.overunity.com/profile/otto.2747/area/showposts/#.Uq6UupDZdWA)

A true hero

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 16, 2013, 04:01:31 AM

Re Tito; I some how feel compelled to end up apologizing again, by saying, at the time I mentioned his name; I said the issue was quickly remedied. I like how filipino sounds; used to work with some filipinos at work.

Re ...

So; if moving electrons want to repel; why do wires first contract?

Because momentarily there's a gravity pulse between them? Or a sudden lack of void?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 16, 2013, 07:57:06 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 16, 2013, 12:51:35 AM

http://www.overunity.com/profile/otto.2747/area/showposts/#.Uq6UupDZdWA (http://www.overunity.com/profile/otto.2747/area/showposts/#.Uq6UupDZdWA)

A true hero

So what if i'm not a hero! >:(
in a way you describe a hero, it seems or as if he already gave the secret huh. ??? hmmmmm

since you have your heroes here then why don't you ask your heroes for the secret. ??? ::)

one more thing: when someone discover something, they insult me and do tongue to me like this => :P

well, it feel sad for me :( in spite of giving this is what i get? huh!!! >:( >:( >:(

and because of that >:(

now i decided to not really give anymore anything. :)

so long fel baboooo :-*

before i go this is for all the community => :P :P :P

And if hartman is here kindly please delete all my post and delete me ok.
and that's my final decision. and i mean it >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 16, 2013, 08:28:42 AM

Guys
Draw your circuit ideas just likr Gyula did
And we start other ways
If you say Otto then lets try collectively :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 16, 2013, 09:17:36 AM

And if hartman is here kindly please delete all my post and delete me ok.
and that's my final decision. and i mean it

Could I be your "exterminator" ,light off ::) http://a2.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple/f8/ae/6f/mzl.qbwfvitm.jpg :
only by your suicidal wish or did we misunderstood your intention :P :P :P

Otto,
Otti(fanti) https://www.google.pt/search?q=ottifanten&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=vguvUtLLPI7MswbLyYHAAg&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1346&bih=587 (https://www.google.pt/search?q=ottifanten&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=vguvUtLLPI7MswbLyYHAAg&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1346&bih=587)
,Tito: so many heroes and heroinas ???

With our best vanguards
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on December 16, 2013, 10:31:31 AM

hartman pls delete tito's post, the concept on how he amplified energy has always been there. Even because of tito, someone who wants to give an advice on this energy amplification will not want to. You can as well delete(lock) the thread so that anybody who wants to start a new thread on this energy amplification can do so.
This is no kapanadze thread, even in kapanadze thread, they do share their replications because kapanadze is not watching them, but here, tito is not giving how he made his device. Then what is the use, delete the thread.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on December 16, 2013, 10:51:07 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 15, 2013, 11:31:24 PM
You know, Tito,
I've just been looking at Otto's posts (The late Otto).
That man is a hero and deserves our prayers.
I've replicated his first set up and am looking further.
Wouldn't it be nice if someone who learnt from him could give a little back;
Just saying.

This is probably the very last document issued by Otto:
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Overunity.com%20-%20Forum%20members/otto/ottos-open-tpu/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 16, 2013, 11:51:04 AM

Quote from: Leely on December 16, 2013, 10:31:31 AM
hartman pls delete tito's post, the concept on how he amplified energy has always been there. Even because of tito, someone who wants to give an advice on this energy amplification will not want to. You can as well delete(lock) the thread so that anybody who wants to start a new thread on this energy amplification can do so.
This is no kapanadze thread, even in kapanadze thread, they do share their replications because kapanadze is not watching them, but here, tito is not giving how he made his device. Then what is the use, delete the thread.

Absolute rubbish.
There are plenty of tips here.
I agree that some members who are totally ignorant have been rude to Tito.
And he is right to get mad at them.
Your post serves no purpose whatsoever.
Grow up. How old are you? 14?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 16, 2013, 11:56:44 AM

Tito: I have looked at some of the ignorant replies to you in the past, and they are not justified.
Not all of us feel or react that way.
Some people are disinformation agents that want you to go away, others are just stupid people.
You are educated as are many of us here.
Some are not. Some people are as thick as a short plank and we have to live with them.
I know how it hurts when you try to help and get stupid comments back.
So how about some bones for the three wire trick?

I for one will appreciate anything you have to offer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on December 16, 2013, 12:20:32 PM

If there are enough tips here, why are u still asking for more tips. I know that the tip I got to build something that is similar to his device, I didn't get it from this thread, then why should I respect his thread.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 16, 2013, 12:41:43 PM

Quote from: Leely on December 16, 2013, 12:20:32 PM
If there are enough tips here, why are u still asking for more tips. I know that the tip I got to build something that is similar to his device, I didn't get it from this thread, then why should I respect his thread.

So you already have a free energy system?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on December 17, 2013, 01:52:36 AM

Well, forget about the post I made that I have not replicated that recharge and discharge capacitor. There's a video I've seen, that if u've not seen it, u'll lean on tito's tips to help u know how he did it. Apart from that, they all work the same concept. So I know what I'm doing, okay.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 17, 2013, 06:44:00 AM

There's a video I've seen,

what video

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on December 17, 2013, 10:19:31 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 17, 2013, 06:44:00 AM
There's a video I've seen,

what video

Well, Dave, I've realized that due to the changes Tito makes in his posts, you may not know the actual video that suites his device, but what I know is that a bifilar coil acts as a capacitor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 18, 2013, 04:07:53 AM

So many threads; someone insisted to read tesla's colorado spring notes.

Having absorbed most of them; skipped sept and skimmed oct; but basically....

The extra coil system is similar to dollard's LMD analog simulation; in theory developing very large capacity.
Apparently integrals of the speed of light are of use; not just having coils proportionate to each other...

I experimented with this; in theory one node imparts a slightly higher charge to the next... but in reality it's still a tightly coupled system, and the the whole network floats together in the same wave.

I made a sim with a AC source and a transformer with extra coils and capacitances, and tuned the frequency to get the best resonance in the extra coil chain; it was continuously increasing; allowing that the input source had unlimited amp.
I then modified the royer sim (easier to say; other than having to say it was easier to say) to have extra coils instead, and was really not able to get any more power represented in any part than the sum of the power input;

but; maybe the noting of integral units of wavelengths of light is somehow important? so that really the frequency is limited to a certain scale...

The capacitance of the wire is always parallel to the inductance; so adding capacitors in series with each winding will not be effective other than to further limit the operating frequency of the coil... you can't remove it with series capacitance... you can just make it that much harder to charge the capacitance of the next winding by putting a capacitor in the way and so forth.

Like the diode-capacitor ladder charging circuit; the best operating mode is when all capacitors are the same... but each pull on each series capacitor is at 1/N of that capacitor so it's effecitve (the range it operates in) capacitance is much smaller. you can actually diminish the capacitors along the chain... but to no greater effect, because that also limits the full capacitance that can be 'pulled' on the drive side.

So in the LMD; it does work as a distributed capacitance; such that the total is really a parallel... and multiple parallel tanks are quite happy to be driven at the same frequency to a high level of power content... but they only get a very very small impulse in power; which limits the ability to pull from it to feed back that small pulse....

no matter how you slice it; the secondary's current flow is started, and is at a maximum, and then it is stopped. It is slightly imparted a negative current; but mostly the forward emf of the secondary will still have been mostly forward... shotening the tail of the falling current diminishes the negative polarization of the secondary.

Tesla noted different colors of sparks, and sparks that didn't come from the lightning arresters (pointy cathode points) ... and I really wonder if he hadn't just flipped a polarity such that he ended up with a excessive negative potential on the terminals, which would not want to go from the round ball to the lightning arrestor... whereas if he drove the coil in the opposite polarity, it will be a excessive positive charge, which will draw from lightining arrestors.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 19, 2013, 06:38:25 AM

Neugier

Lust= Eros
Spieltrieb
Ge-Win-n ? Ver-lust ?
Be-/Ver-/Wunder-ung

unserious ? Karikieren : http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.de/strip/2013/12/17 (http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.de/strip/2013/12/17)

serious ? Sciencia:

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John von Neumann in 1940

János Neumann Margittai, (* December 28 1903 in Budapest ( Austria-Hungary ) as János Lajos Neumann, † February 8 1957 in Washington, DC ) was a mathematician Austro - Hungarian origin. He has made significant contributions to mathematical logic , functional analysis , quantum mechanics and game theory and is considered one of the fathers of computer science . Later he was called Johann von Neumann (by Margitta); nowadays he is mostly known under his chosen name in the U.S. John von Neumann.
Contents [ Hide ]
1 Origin and early career
2 work on quantum mechanics
3 America, game theory and other
4 Manhattan Project and government advisor
5 work on the computer
6 Findings and end
7 Honors
8 namesake
9 Quote
10 works
11 See also
12 Notes and references
13 Literature
14 Web Links

Origin and early career [ Edit ]

John von Neumann was born into a Jewish banking family. His father, the Royal Hungarian Government Max Neumann, was established on 1 July 1913 raised to the Hungarian nobility. Even as a child showed John Neumann those above average intelligence, the later Nobel laureate himself - for example Eugene Paul Wigner - brought to marvel. As a six year old he could divide eight-digit numbers in his head at high speed. He had an extraordinary memory, for example, allowed him out precisely reproduce the contents page of a book after a quick glance. Later he was able to memorize entire books and so shine like Goethe's Faust, for example, through detailed historical knowledge. He visited Budapest in the humanistic German-speaking Lutheran high school , as well as simultaneously Eugene Paul Wigner . Even as a schoolboy he was conspicuous by his mathematical achievements and 17 years old published his first mathematical paper. However, the wishes of his parents following, he studied from 1921 to 1923 chemical engineering in Berlin and then until his diploma at the ETH Zurich . His real interest, however, was always in mathematics, he devoted himself to a certain extent as a "hobby". He attended since he was initially not allowed in Budapest (quota for Jews), mathematics courses of Hermann Weyl and George Pólya at ETH and made soon attracted attention. Von Neumann was from 1926 to 1929 (most recent) Associate Professor of the University of Berlin and 1929/1930 at the University of Hamburg. In between, he worked 1926/1927 in Göttingen with David Hilbert together.

Von Neumann in the course catalogs of the Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universität zu Berlin . The first three excerpts are from the summer term of 1928, the fourth Section of the winter term of 1928 / 29th [1]

Early in his career as a mathematician engaged in von Neumann, among others, with the development of axiomatic set theory , for which he still took a new approach as a student (PhD in Budapest in 1926 when Leopold Fejér ), [2] and with the Hilbert's proof theory . These themes were then the current research topic of the group to Hilbert in Göttingen, at that time one of the world centers of mathematics. His definition of the ordinals is now a standard: A new ordinal number is defined by the amount of data already imported. The period of his employment with mathematical logic ended with the announcement of by Gödel's incompleteness theorem , the Hilbert's program dealt a heavy blow. Godel was later a close friend and colleague of von Neumann and Einstein in Princeton.
Work on quantum mechanics [ Edit ]

Von Neumann was also author of the first mathematically thoughtful book on quantum mechanics , in which he also the measurement process and the thermodynamics ( entropy definition density matrix treated) of quantum mechanics. The then "hot" topic of the rapidly developing quantum mechanics was also the main reason why he chose the functional analysis turned and the theory of linear operators in Hilbert spaces developed, more precisely that of unrestricted self-adjoint operators. [3] The mathematicians in Göttingen turned against the new quantum mechanics one that with the previously studied linear operators, the canonical commutation could not be met. Von Neumann explained the same time and delivered numerous other contributions to this field. When you however later Werner Heisenberg asked whether he was not grateful von Neumann therefore, he only the counter-question, where is the difference between restricted and unrestricted lie. [4] Von Neumann's book on quantum mechanics enjoyed such a reputation that even his " proof "of the impossibility of hidden variable theories, which was correct, but proceeded from false premises, has long been unquestioned. The physicists preferred however to von Neumann's chagrin almost simultaneously published Principles of Quantum mechanics by Paul Dirac in which the mentioned mathematical problem by introducing distributions was bypassed, which were frowned upon by the mathematicians, first, before they even there in the late 1940s their triumph competed ( Laurent Schwartz ).

With Eugene Wigner published by Neumann 1928/29, a number of papers on the application of group theory in the atomic spectra. Again, the enthusiasm of the physicist was subdued, there was even talk of "Gruppenpest" who tried wide shut in quantum mechanics on the part of mathematicians.

The Stone-von Neumann theorem expresses the uniqueness of the canonical commutators, for example, position and momentum operators in quantum mechanics, showing the equivalence of the two basic formulations of Schrödinger (wave function) and Heisenberg (matrices).

His work on quantum mechanics established his reputation in America - and not least in view of a change to better-paying positions in the U.S., he has been working so intensely with her. In the autumn of 1929 he was appointed by Oswald Veblen invited to come to Princeton University in New Jersey and to give lectures about it, and he joined in the following years between Princeton and Germany. From 1933 he worked at the newly established elite Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton as professor of mathematics. Some of his colleagues were there Albert Einstein and Hermann Weyl . As this also immigrated von Neumann after Hitler came to power permanently in the United States.
America, game theory and other [ Edit ]

John von Neumann provided in many areas of mathematics outstanding contributions. As early as 1928 an essay by the mathematician had him Émile Borel via minimax properties to ideas that amounted later on one of his most original designs, the game theory . 1928 Von Neumann proved the min-max theorem for the existence of an optimal strategy in " zero sum games ". With the economist Oskar Morgenstern , he wrote in 1944 the book has become a classic, The Theory of Games and Economic Behavior (3rd edition 1953), where the key to the economy generalization to n-person games is treated. He thus became the founder of game theory, which he, however, less applies to classic games, as to everyday conflict and decision-making situations with imperfect knowledge of the intentions of the opponent (as in poker) [5] . In economics, a seminar presentation in 1936 for the mathematical modeling of expanding economies is often cited. [6] In the second edition of The Theory of Games and Economic Behavior (1947) Morgenstern presented and von Neumann the Von Neumann-Morgenstern expected utility and made thus significant contributions to utility theory .

In the 1930s, von Neumann developed in a series of works by Francis Murray a theory of algebras of bounded operators in Hilbert spaces, the Jacques Dixmier later von Neumann algebras called. These are now an active field of research (for example, Alain Connes , Vaughan FR Jones ), also - as von Neumann foresaw - has applications in physics, but less in quantum mechanics than in the quantum field theory and quantum statistics . Von Neumann and Murray proved a Klassifikationstheorem for operator algebras as a direct sum of "factors" (with trivial center) of type I, II, III, each with subdivisions.

Operator algebras were part of his search for a generalization of the quantum mechanical formalism, because he said in a letter to Birkhoff in 1935, he would no longer believe in Hilbert spaces. Further experiments in this direction were the investigation of the "lattice theory" ( theory of associations ), first as algebra of projection operators in Hilbert space (which was also Birkhoff was involved), and later as an extension of logic to " quantum logic interpreted ", and continuous geometries, but proved to be no progress towards operator algebras at the end.

Another field of work of the 1930s in Princeton was the famous Ergodenproblem in which it comes to the mathematical foundations of statistical mechanics in classical systems (equal distribution of orbits in phase space ). Von Neumann these questions had already been treated by quantum mechanical side in Germany. After Bernard Koopman had brought the problem in operator form, picked it up and gave von Neumann involuntarily a "duel" with the famous American mathematician George David Birkhoff . As he later said he would have preferred a collaboration.

Von Neumann was both appreciated because he generously passed on his ideas and colleagues helped (with visits to Los Alamos, he was often surrounded by a cluster of scientists, the quick advice wanted), on the other hand, feared that he took up ideas quickly and own with breathtaking speed theories developed from it.
Manhattan Project and government advisors [ Edit ]

Von Neumann worked from 1943 at the Manhattan Project in Los Alamos. He had been in previous years in the Army and Navy in demand as a consultant (Ballistikfragen of all kinds, shaped charges, operations research, fight against German magnetic mines, optimizing the effect of bombs with "oblique shock waves," etc.). One of his main areas of work was because the theory of shock waves for supersonic flight was currently in the 50s and he used among other things for the development of explosive lenses for Implosionsmechanismus the plutonium bomb. In this context, includes his development of the first numerical method for solving hyperbolic partial differential equations , the Monte Carlo method with Stanislaw Ulam , the von Neumann stability analysis as well as his pioneering work in computer architecture . Incidentally, he optimized his expertise in the theory of shock waves during the Second World War and English air mines over Germany. Even in the development of the U.S. nuclear bomb program up to the hydrogen bomb was involved from Neumann.

In addition to his mathematical achievements was von Neumann as a government adviser and politically influential. Before the dropping of atomic bombs on Japan, he was a member of the Target Committee , which co-determined the exact targets of the bombs. With the name of John von Neumann, the idea is supposed to be connected, the East-West confrontation by the explosion of a hydrogen bomb to end on an uninhabited Soviet territory, the Soviet Union keep them from developing their own bomb and permanently intimidate. [7] Whether U.S. President Eisenhower , however, was actually urged by von Neumann to such a step, is controversial. But he was instrumental in helping to bring the military missile program of the U.S. on the way.
Work on the computer [ Edit ]

Von Neumann is considered one of the fathers of computer science. According to him, was Von Neumann architecture named (also Von Neumann computer), a computer in which data and program binary coding in the same memory are. The program itself can thus be changed during computation and be derogated from by conditional jump commands from the specified sequence of stored instructions. It defines in loose analogy to the human brain (as he writes in the report) is a computer architecture from the control unit and arithmetic unit and a storage unit. The commands are executed serially. He described this principle in 1945 in the First Draft of a Report on the EDVAC . The report was a discussion report with the ENIAC thought group and remained unpublished at first, but quickly circulated in scientific circles. Virtually all modern computers are based on von Neumann's idea.

Von Neumann's role as the sole inventor of the eponymous modern computer architecture has been disputed and has long been the subject of controversy. Today, the name stored-program computer (stored program computer) therefore is preferably used instead of von Neumann computer. [8] In particular, concerns the claims of the actual builder of the first tube computer ENIAC and its successor model EDVAC, John Presper Eckert and John William Mauchly of the Moore School of the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia, with which von Neumann and Herman Goldstine worked together initially narrow. [9] Von Neumann came through a chance meeting on a train platform with the previously known him mathematician Goldstine in August 1944 to the computer developers of the Moore School where Goldstine liaison officer of the U.S. Army was. [10] As Goldstine reported, ended the run of his own free rapid spread of the EDVAC reports the close relationship between him and von Neumann to Eckert and Mauchly, [11] their contribution in the (not really for the general public) EDVAC report unappreciated saw and argued for significant parts of the Von Neumann computer priority claims made. In Eckert and Mauchly patent considerations were at the forefront, which meant that they already 1946, the Moore School left to found his own company, and that led to a decade-long dispute in court later (they switched in 1945, patent lawyers are). Von Neumann, however, initially saw a need for further research and development and entered for an open discussion and wide dissemination of the results a. [12] were parts of the concept independently from other computer pioneers - including Konrad Zuse in Germany - developed, including the idea of separation of memory and processor that still was purely mechanical Z1 in 1938 already in Zuse. Zuse's early computers, which were designed for special tasks, but lacked the essential concept of conditional branch, although it was known to him and he in his Plankalkül used. [13] [14] Von Neumann sat down at the time vehemently for the further development of computing machines one. The merits of von Neumann based in particular on the mathematization and scientific nature of computing machines.

Von Neumann finally ushered in 1949 at the Institute for Advanced Study is a private computer project, the IAS computer, in which he could realize his ideas, including many programming concepts. Go to him subroutines with parameter passing by reference to a memory location, various methods for generating random numbers (including the mid-square method and the rejection method ) and the mergesort back. He contributed significantly to the use of binary codes in the computer systems and advocated the use of flowcharts , where he is also a kind of assertions foresaw that as a precursor to loop invariants in Hoare-calculus can be viewed. A close associate was Goldstine, whom he took over from the ENIAC group. The reports from Princeton in 1949 he left to circulate freely, and soon computers have sprung up everywhere in the U.S. and England to these models. Was used in the IAS computer and converted by von Neumann's ideas ENIAC especially for military calculations (ballistics). Von Neumann to Princeton computer used but also for pioneering work in numerical weather prediction, as the first computer-based 24-hour weather forecast.

In 1953, he developed the theory of self-reproducing automata (Burks 1966 published as Theory of self Reproducing automata), for which he gave a complicated example (now much simpler result from the theory of cellular automata , for example, John Horton Conway's Game of Life ) . Ideas for he is also playing with a building block game ( Tinkertoy ) have tried. [15] Science fiction writers, the colonization of our galaxy with such an automaton introduced and coined the name for this Von Neumann probes .
Findings and end [ Edit ]

About von Neumann circulated numerous anecdotes (some Halmos has collected in the references cited in the literature article). For example, someone tried to test it with the following riddle: The endpoints of a segment s move with velocity v toward each other, a runner flits between the two endpoints with a speed w> v back and forth. What distance it travels? There is a simple and a more complicated solution method (summation of the sections). Von Neumann, the response was fast and explained to demand to have summed the series -. Therefore he had chosen the difficult way, which meant no more time-consuming, however, for him [16]

Because of its ability to communicate complex issues quickly to dissect into simple questions and often supply from the state of a solution, as well as its strictly factual, any unnecessary dispute avoidant attitude was von Neumann like to get involved as a technical advisor (as of IBM , Standard Oil , RAND Corporation , among others ), so his name is a term used in numerous application areas. For example, he published in 1952 the Von Neumann law that the temporal change in the size of cells two-dimensional foam describes. For Standard Oil, he helped to develop methods to better exploit oil deposits. His death averted a planned greater cooperation with IBM. [17] For the RAND Corporation, he turned to game theory to strategic thinking games, as well as at the same time other mathematicians such as John Nash and John Milnor . In an unpublished work, 1953, he laid the principles of semiconductor laser dar. [18]

John von Neumann was a fun-loving and sociable person (nicknamed "Good Time Harry"), he was married twice (Mariette Kovesi and Klara Dan) and had a daughter (Marina). His house in Princeton was the center of academic circles on the legendary Princeton parties. Von Neumann also loved fast cars (Cadillac, Studebaker), his driving style but was feared because he quickly grew bored with calm traffic and then fell in absence of mind. [19] Even in the middle of a party he could say goodbye suddenly to a mathematical problem to think through. His alcohol consumption was partially faked, as the child of a guest found even surprised. Another aspect of the "entertainer" von Neumann was his inexhaustible reservoir often slippery jokes and his penchant for limericks .

Von Neumann died after an agonizing battle with cancer, which was possibly caused by his participation in nuclear tests in the Washington Walter Reed Army Medical Center . A soldier kept guard outside the room, so that he (attacked the cancer in the end his brain at) delirious state secrets passed on. Even on his deathbed he wrote to his book "The Abacus and the brain", in which he went about the specifics of the "Computers" in the human head. He is considered one of the most brilliant and versatile mathematician of the 20th Century.
Honours [ Edit ]
In 1954 he gave a plenary lecture at the International Congress of Mathematicians in Amsterdam (on unsolved problems in mathematics), and also in 1950 in Cambridge (Massachusetts) (Shock interaction and its mathematical aspects).
Colloquium Lecturer of the American Mathematical Society (1937)
Bôcher Memorial Prize (1938)
Gibbs Lecturer of the American Mathematical Society 1947
President of the American Mathematical Society 1951-1953
He was a member of the Accademia dei Lincei , the American Academy of Arts and Sciences , the National Academy of Sciences , the Royal Netherlands Academy of Sciences, of the Istituto Lombardo in Milan, the American Philosophical Society , the Peruvian Academy of Sciences.
In 1947, he received the Medal of Merit of the U.S. President ( Medal for Merit )
In 1956 he received the Presidential Medal of Freedom by the U.S. President ( Medal of Freedom )
1956: Albert Einstein Commemorative Award
1956: Enrico Fermi Award
Eponym [ Edit ]

According to Neumann's John von Neumann Medal of the IEEE , the John von Neumann Theory Prize in Operations Research , the John von Neumann Lecture of SIAM and the Von Neumann lunar crater named. The Institute for computer science and mathematics from the Humboldt University of Berlin sitting in the John-von-Neumann-Haus.
Quote [ Edit ]

Von Neumann in a discussion with Jacob Bronowski 1943 in the study of bomb craters on aerial photos: [20]

"No, no, you see that not right. Your visualisierender mind can not really see that. You have to think abstractly. What happens is that the first derivative vanishes identically and therefore that which is visible, is the trace of the second differential quotient. "

Bronowski says that he, the problem discussed rethought and confirmed late on the night of Neumann's view was on this advice, - when he told him the next morning, but asked him to von Neumann just ask him the next time as one for only to disturb von Neumann early hour, if he would be wrong, and not if he was right.
Works [ Edit ]
Collected works, 6 volumes, Pergamon Press, 1961
Brody, Vamos ed The von Neumann compendium, World Scientific (Reprint of important essays by Neumann)
The computer and the brain (Silliman Lectures), Yale University Press 2000 (German The Abacus and the brain 1958)
The mathematician, in Heywood (ed.) "The works of the mind", 1948, reprinted in Kasner, Newman (ed.) "The world of mathematics", Volume 4
Mathematical Foundations of Quantum Mechanics, Springer Verlag, 2nd edition 1996, ISBN 978-3-540-59207-5 (first 1932)
Theory of games and economic behavior, together with Oskar Morgenstern, Princeton Univ. . Press, 1944, online at archive.org (PDF, 31.6 MB), ISBN 978-0-691-13061-3 (edition of 2007), German translation: Game Theory and Economic Behavior, ISBN 3-7908-0134 - 8 .

Some articles and books online:
For the axiomatization of set theory, Mathematische Zeitschrift in 1928, Dissertation von Neumann
About the definition by transfinite induction and related issues of general set theory, Mathematische Annalen in 1928
About a consistency issue in the axiomatic set theory, 1928, in: Journal of Pure and Applied Mathematics 160 (1929) 227-241
On the theory of games, Mathematische Annalen in 1928
Mathematical foundations of quantum mechanics, Nachr.Ges.Wiss.Göttingen 1927
Thermodynamics of quantum mechanical ensembles, Nachr.Ges.Wiss.Göttingen 1927
The uniqueness of the Schrödinger operators, Mathematische Annalen in 1931
Mathematical foundations of quantum mechanics, Berlin 1932
General eigenvalue theory of Hermitian functional operators, Mathematische Annalen in 1930
For the algebra of functional operators and the theory of normal operators, Mathematische Annalen in 1930
First Draft of a Report on the EDVAC. ( PDF format, English) 1945 (411 kB)
with Burks, Goldstine Preliminary discussion of the logical design of an electronic computing instrument, U.S. Army Ordnance Department Report 1946

Some originated in Los Alamos work of von Neumann (eg, via shock waves, detonation waves) are at the Federation of American Scientists, available online.

Some further work, for example, to continuous geometries, Operators rings or to ergodic theory are at the National Academy of Sciences is available online.
See also [ edit ]
Neumann-Bernays-Gödel set theory NBG
Von Neumann equation
Von Neumann hierarchy
Foundation axiom
Von Neumann architecture
References [ Edit ]
↑ In the winter semester 1928/29, Neumann by Margitta is like in the summer semester 1928 at the mathematical colloquium and in the discussion of recent work on quantum theory with Leo Szilard specified. Other lecturers were in the winter semester 1928/29, in the discussion of recent work on quantum theory Hartmut Kallman and Fritz London .
↑ John (Janos) von Neumann in the Mathematics Genealogy Project (English)
↑ The operators for measures used in quantum mechanics are linear (superposition principle for solutions of the nonlinear Schrödinger equation, for example) and self-adjoint, since then the eigenvalues, the possible readings are real.
↑ The anecdote comes from Kurt Friedrichs, see Peter Lax Mathematics and Physics, Bulletin American Mathematical Society, Vol 45, 2008, p.135-152
↑ Von Neumann was like Edward Teller and a number of other theoretical physicists after the war ended in Los Alamos during his visits (you worked on the hydrogen bomb) a member of a poker round. Stanislaw Ulam Adventures of a Mathematician, Scribner 1976, page 169
↑ In Menger Colloquium, translated as A model of general equilibrium, Review of Economic Studies Bd.13, 1945, 1, in Brody, Vamos (ed.) The von Neumann compendium. New was among other things the use of inequalities instead of just equations as in Walras, see McRae S.217ff
↑ Poundstone "Prisoners Dilemma", p.4 cited an obituary in "Life" magazine in 1957 in which 1950 even for a preventive nuclear war against the Soviet Union expressed von Neumann, as about the same time, other individuals such as converted by the time history pacifist Bertrand Russell.
↑ Friedrich L. Bauer Historical notes on computer science, Springer Verlag 2009, pp. 139
↑ Nicholas Metropolis , J. Worlton A trilogy on errors in the history of computing, IEEE Annals of the history of computing, Volume 2, 1980, pp. 49-55, argued that the stored program concept by Eckert and Mauchly ago of participation was developed by von Neumann. See also Friedrich L. Bauer Historical notes on computer science, Springer Verlag 2009, Chapter Who invented the von Neumann computer?, reprint from computer science spectrum, Volume 21, 1998, p.84. Joel also Shurkin Engines of the Mind. The history of the computer, Norton, 1984, provides for the EDVAC, Eckert and Mauchly, the contributions of the central and von Neumann significant role only with his own IAS Employing computer, Goldstine The Computer from Pascal to von Neumann, 1993, p 186f speaks against it for a central role of von Neumann, who was involved by Goldstine beginning of August 1944, the discussions in the Moore School.
↑ Goldstine The Computer from Pascal to von Neumann, 1993, p 182
↑ Goldstine The Computer from Pascal to von Neumann, Princeton University Press, 1993, p 229
↑ Bauer Historical notes on computer science, p.138
↑ Paul Rojas The architecture of Konrad Zuse's early computing machines, in Rojas, Hashagen: The first computers, MIT Press, 2000. According to Rojas, the Z1 was very similar to the logical structure of the later relay computer Z3 and both principle be used as a universal computing machine, even if that was not practical.
↑ Rojas Zuse and Turing. The wire of Mephistopheles , telepolis 21 December 2011
↑ Poundstone Prisoner's Dilemma , p 24
↑ Howard Eves Return to Mathematical Circles , PWS-Kent Publishing, 1988, p 140
↑ Stephen Dunwell IBM reported about it in his oral history interview, 1989, Babbage Institute pdf, . After Dunwell his role as a consultant at IBM was very limited, but it was aware at IBM, that as a father of the modern computer owed much to him. That had to do with general von Neumann's attitude - he represented by Dunwell's opinion, with computers would be not less disk space problem, but unimaginative programmers.
↑ Russell Dupuis The diode laser - the first 30 days 40 years ago , Optics and Photonics News, Bd.15, 2004, pp. 30, IEEE Online
↑ According to other statements he used also, to sing loudly in the car, with appropriate steering movements. He drove a car to scrap almost every year. Poundstone Prisoners Dilemma , p.25
↑ McRae: Von Neumann , S. 186, according to Jacob Bronowski: The Ascent of man , BBC book, in 1973, in one of his BBC TV series, episode 13 In McRae "differential coefficient", is obviously a translation error.
Literature [ Edit ]
Steve J. Heim: John von Neumann and Norbert Wiener . MIT Press, Cambridge, MA 1980 - double biography of two eminent scientists with informative presentation of the positions of both mathematicians in the immediate postwar period.
Konrad Jacobs: Neumann, John von. In: New German Biography (NDB). Volume 19, Duncker & Humblot, Berlin 1999, ISBN 3-428-00200-8 , pp. 153 f ( digitized ).
Norman Macrae: John von Neumann. Mathematics and Computer Research - facets of a genius . Birkhauser Verlag, Basel 1994 - The Book of journalists Macrae is unfortunately in many parts very weak and unreliable in some places, but based on many interviews.
Giorgio Israel, Ana Millan Gasca The world as a mathematical game-John von Neumann and Twentieth Century Science , Birkhauser 2009 (Science Networks Historical Studies, Volume 38)
Bulletin of the American Mathematical Society, special issue on von Neumann, Bd.64, 1958 (including Ulam, Birkhoff (Lattice theory), van Hove (quantum mechanics), Murray / Kadison (operator algebras), Kuhn / Tucker (game theory), Shannon ( Theory of machines / computers), Halmos (measure theory, ergodic theory)), Ulam article online
Halmos: The Legend of John von Neumann . Bulletin of the American Mathematical Society, April 1973
William Poundstone: Prisoners Dilemma: John von Neumann, game theory and the puzzle of the bomb . Doubleday, New York, 1992, Oxford University Press, 1993 (paperback)
Ed Regis: Who got Einstein's office Eccentricity and Genius at the Institute for Advanced Study . 1988
Herman Goldstine: The computer from Pascal to von Neumann . 1980
William Aspray: John von Neumann and the origins of modern computing . 1990
Ulf Hashagen: Johann Ludwig Neumann by Margitta (1903-1957). Part 1: Apprenticeship of a Jewish mathematician during the time of the Weimar Republic. spectrum computer science Vol 29, 2006, pp. 133-141, Part 2: A lecturer on the way from Berlin to Princeton. ibid vol 29, p 227 -236.
Ernst Peter Fischer: Aristotle, Einstein & Co. Piper Verlag 2000, ISBN 3-492-23045-8 , pp. 386-399 ( John von Neumann - or bring the planet to wobble ).
István Hargittai: . The Martians of science - five physicists who changed the twentieth century Oxford Univ. Press, Oxford 2006, ISBN 978-0-19-517845-6
External links [ Edit ]
Commons: János Lajos Neumann - album with pictures, videos and audio files
Literature by and about John von Neumann in the catalog of the German National Library
Why not bomb them today? , study work on political activity of von Neumann
John J. O'Connor, Edmund F. Robertson : John von Neumann. In: MacTutor History of Mathematics archive (English)
Critical heise article on Biography
Von Neumann, Dirac, among others, to quantum mechanics, Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy 2004 (English)
JOHN NEUMANN OF A REGISTER OF HIS PAPERS IN THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS The Library of Congress 2002 (English)
Freeman Dyson A walkthrough Johnny von Neumann's Garden , Notices AMS, February 2013
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John von Neumann: 2 work on q.uantum m.echanics Ueberlegung:

And how defining the e-OU-q.m.-Generator ?
ultra-/infra-red ra(d)io collector and emitter

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 22, 2013, 05:17:49 PM

This is worth a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRos1beoQp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRos1beoQp4)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 23, 2013, 01:14:49 PM

Im looking for a pulsing circuit that works like the Mazilli but instead of zero point switching I need a peak to peak switching circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 23, 2013, 01:26:51 PM

good dave very good , I'm also looking ;D meantine you can go with zero cross detection and a microcontroller to delay required time ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 23, 2013, 01:39:26 PM

I was hoping some with electronics exp. could answer this
could the Mazilli circuit be modified or will it just runaway.
The original circuit rely's on bemf to work, could the diodes be rearranged

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 23, 2013, 02:49:45 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 23, 2013, 01:39:26 PM
I was hoping some with electronics exp. could answer this
could the Mazilli circuit be modified or will it just runaway.
The original circuit rely's on bemf to work, could the diodes be rearranged

I think verpies is your man

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 23, 2013, 03:18:29 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 23, 2013, 01:39:26 PM
I was hoping some with electronics exp. could answer this
could the Mazilli circuit be modified or will it just runaway.
The original circuit rely's on bemf to work, could the diodes be rearranged

(not exp; but I can say)

I detect the only change in schematic is to split the coils and give each its own choke....

which also essentially the real positive supply to beyond two series coils which no choke before... think basically it won't work.

Splitting it in sim; it doesn't... it sort of works but it will burn out fets quick...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on December 23, 2013, 05:57:18 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 23, 2013, 01:39:26 PM
I was hoping some with electronics exp. could answer this
could the Mazilli circuit be modified or will it just runaway.
The original circuit rely's on bemf to work, could the diodes be rearranged

Dear Dave45 and d3x0r.

Isn't that in essence Igor's latest drive circuit ??

Seasons Greetings, Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 23, 2013, 06:43:44 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 23, 2013, 02:49:45 PM
I think verpies is your man

Yea I dont know if he reads this thread, was hoping he would respond.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 23, 2013, 06:47:05 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 23, 2013, 03:18:29 PM
(not exp; but I can say)

I detect the only change in schematic is to split the coils and give each its own choke....

which also essentially the real positive supply to beyond two series coils which no choke before... think basically it won't work.

Splitting it in sim; it doesn't... it sort of works but it will burn out fets quick...

Hey J
I moved the diode connections, didnt really think it would work, I basically just wanted to give an idea of the type of pulsing circuit I was looking for.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 23, 2013, 06:52:30 PM

Quote from: Grumage on December 23, 2013, 05:57:18 PM
Dear Dave45 and d3x0r.

Isn't that in essence Igor's latest drive circuit ??

Seasons Greetings, Grum.

Thats a hard circuit to figure out, I think he should run the high voltage into the core to ionize it like Tesla's ionization patent. Like this

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 23, 2013, 07:06:13 PM

Then the ends of the secondary could run through the center of the core, Im going to try this I got the ionization core wound today 30 guage, Im going to dip it in plasti dip before I wind anymore windings on it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 23, 2013, 07:22:20 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 23, 2013, 07:06:13 PM
Then the ends of the secondary could run through the center of the core, Im going to try this I got the ionization core wound today 30 guage, Im going to dip it in plasti dip before I wind anymore windings on it.

hmmm very similar to this:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Chris_Brown%27s_KML_Coils

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 23, 2013, 07:50:46 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 23, 2013, 07:22:20 PM
hmmm very similar to this:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Chris_Brown%27s_KML_Coils (http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Chris_Brown%27s_KML_Coils)

Just when you think youv thought of something new ::)
Thanks for the link will check out his work

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 23, 2013, 11:15:57 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 23, 2013, 07:50:46 PM
Just when you think youv thought of something new ::)
Thanks for the link will check out his work

Well.... you could try a bifilar...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 24, 2013, 08:33:37 AM

a.king21
I was thinking on the extra coil and how it could work.
The bemf from a negatively pulsed coil is high positive but if a coil was pulsed with a high positive the bemf should be negative.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 24, 2013, 11:00:37 AM

Negative bemf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 24, 2013, 12:23:09 PM

Looking at plasma in a magnetic field, the magnetic field spins the plasma to the outer walls. I think I have the coils reversed,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGkdl-bsk2k

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 24, 2013, 12:55:19 PM

Iv updated the pic, Im going to build this whether it will work or not ::) who knows, but I have to have a plan before I start.
Iv wound the fine wire, Im glad I went no further.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 24, 2013, 03:50:02 PM

I wouldn't earth the free coil. Pickup is via a resonant receiver. (Tesla Colorado Spring notes)
Or you could try it this way via a shorted Avramenko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwk_2Zp_P4Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwk_2Zp_P4Q)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 24, 2013, 06:50:00 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 24, 2013, 03:50:02 PM
I wouldn't earth the free coil. Pickup is via a resonant receiver. (Tesla Colorado Spring notes)
Or you could try it this way via a shorted Avramenko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwk_2Zp_P4Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwk_2Zp_P4Q)

This is very interesting.
This could be used on the Mazilli circuit as well.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 24, 2013, 07:04:31 PM

BruceTPU found you could pulse an open ended wire from the pos lead of a function gen, this is the same but on steroids, bemf from a neg source induced coil is a high voltage pos pulse.
You run that high voltage pos pulse into a coil and get a high energy negative bemf back into the primary, essentially your getting a free high energy pulse.
Im going to study and play with this a bit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 24, 2013, 07:22:25 PM

Open ended bifilar Mazilli

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 25, 2013, 06:46:20 AM

Oh its a beautiful day ;D

The open ended coil acts like a spring and bemf compresses it, beautiful.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 25, 2013, 07:06:18 AM

Looks like I better order some mosfets I might blow a few ;D
Comon guys lets play with this and find what works and what doesnt.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 25, 2013, 08:13:59 AM

DAve 45: Can you protect your mosfets with ne2s across the collector emitter/ source-drain?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 25, 2013, 08:19:18 AM

Can you give details on the primary winding dave?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 25, 2013, 08:36:46 AM

a.king
I havent built this yet, still trying to understand. I built the Mazilli circuit awhile back so it wont take long once I start working on it.
The diodes have me confused.
I will try this soon
still working on the diode arrangement,
cant get to the shop yet :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 25, 2013, 09:06:00 AM

Diodes: OK.
Tesla said that the problem with the free coil is that it needs to be as isolated as possible from the rest of the circuit
or ugly Lenz appears.
The old scientist figured out the shorted avramenko and it works for him.
Another way is to put a capacitor in series after the free coil and attach another free coil after it.

What Tesla is doing is replicating his earthquake experiment. Here he used a converted electric bell
to pulse a skyscraper and caused an earthquake. BUT... he needed unclad bare metal for the device to work.
Tesla covers all this in the Colorado Springs notes. I advise you to read them again, as I will also.
This is his electrical analogy.

Remember that Oliver Lodge proved that electricity exists outside the wires, and the wires are simply
a wave guide. So too much voltage and the electricity flies off the rails so to speak.
I call this swing resonance or pendulum resonance.
Another way is roundabout resonance or circular resonance as in the TPU or motor gen systems or a looped circuit.
We have to distinguish between the two or we get confused.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 25, 2013, 09:16:46 AM

Is this the copy you are referring to.
http://tesla.stumblers.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/335469-Nikola-Teslas-Colorado-Springs-Notes.pdf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 25, 2013, 09:23:37 AM

I had never heard of Oliver Lodge thanks for that, am reading up on his work now.
Would like to go to my shop but the wife might shoot me if I went now ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 25, 2013, 09:35:41 AM

The capacitor arrangement could be of utmost importance as well.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 25, 2013, 09:58:13 AM

I hadn't seen that particular copy of the Colorado Spring notes. But it's the same thing.
Tesla was using pulsed voltage pressure without current to resonate the free coil.
That's basically it in a nutshell.
In the notes Tesla was looking at several different applications which is why it is confusing.
1 Global internet and how to individualize the reception for privacy.
2 Global free energy and it's associated technologies.
He used the term "resonant rise" to describe the free energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 25, 2013, 10:20:04 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCzZyB_UUMc&list=UU1ZrGlkxBvG9WOwIs2eApLA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCzZyB_UUMc&list=UU1ZrGlkxBvG9WOwIs2eApLA)

I have no idea if this device is real, but it appears to be using the Colorado springs
free coil idea.
In this video he is so p...d off at the criticism that he takes his device apart.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 25, 2013, 11:41:49 AM

Can someone introduce a terminology that seperates the rising effect from the falling effect? For lack of an apparent agreed standard, I'll use Dollard's.

If the capture of the back EMF(building magnetic field, we need this to happen, the resistance or back pressure to the current in the first place); then no current would build in the coil...

if a bifilar coil, leave the one end open, and use the 'leakage' capacitance of the coil as the capacitance at a factor of 50pF/m (this is always parallel and cannot be less than what it is {tempurature?}). (for small wire) Larger gauge wire is a significant more capacitance, lower resistance... thin wire is high resistance, low capacitance (A long thin capacitor may have 'most capacitance' but that's still less than any size ball (?) ref. Tesla notes as he comments on 'high capacitance in thin gauge wire' which is really 'high resistance' that limited the flow, reducing apparent effectiveness without more drive capacitance (voltage?)). With a resonance against the inductance of the primary and the wire's capacitance; grounding the same end of the coil as is applied a positive signal in, will result in a usable current on the secondary with a higher positive on the secondary; transferred inductively not capacitivly.

if the forward EMF is captured...(the force that is keeping the coil going forward... with diodes; {someone mentioned CEMF as a counter to BEMF }) into a separate coil, you'll lose the resonant rise in the original circuit.

A series of zener diodes can be tapped to limit how much is taken from the tank...
Unless the total breakdown voltage is available in the tank, the zeners won't conduct; (well, they will, from ground which is okay we can always use more substance to hold more pressure).. otherwise, the reverse negative pressure will breakdwon the zener conductance, if the series is 50V-40V-10V reverse breakdown, then you can get anything more than 100V from your resonant tank, and a load between 40-10 will get 90V available to it... once the tank is under 100V it is allowed to rebuild.

I stumbled on a royer oscillator in hydraulic form... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NroEqdpF6Y)
or there's another pretty good one in this message
http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg380445/#msg380445

This is a forward EMF test (http://www.falstad.com/circuit/#%24+1+5.0E-9+9.78399845368213+46+12.0+50%0Al+656+240+752+240+0+0.002+0.33328644099132215%0Ad+576+240+624+240+1+0.805904783%0Ag+816+96+816+48+0%0Aw+624+240+656+240+0%0Aw+752+240+784+240+0%0Ad+784+240+816+240+1+0.805904783%0Ac+624+192+752+192+0+2.5000000000000002E-8+4.277953008889782%0Ad+624+192+624+240+1+0.805904783%0Ad+752+240+752+192+1+0.805904783%0As+512+240+464+240+0+0+false%0AR+400+80+352+80+0+0+40.0+12.0+0.0+0.0+0.5%0Ar+432+128+432+176+0+10.0%0Ar+464+128+464+176+0+0.1%0Ar+496+128+496+176+0+1000000.0%0Ar+528+128+528+176+0+1000.0%0As+432+128+432+96+0+1+false%0As+464+128+464+96+0+1+false%0As+496+128+496+96+0+0+false%0As+528+128+528+96+0+1+false%0Aw+432+176+432+240+0%0Aw+464+176+464+240+0%0Aw+464+240+432+240+0%0Aw+496+176+512+240+0%0Aw+528+176+512+240+0%0Aw+512+240+576+240+0%0Aw+400+80+432+80+0%0Aw+432+80+432+96+0%0Aw+464+80+464+96+0%0Aw+496+80+496+96+0%0Aw+528+80+528+96+0%0Aw+528+80+496+80+0%0Aw+496+80+464+80+0%0Aw+464+80+432+80+0%0Aw+432+240+384+240+0%0Ar+384+240+352+240+0+1.0E9%0Ag+352+240+352+272+0%0Aw+656+256+624+240+0%0Ar+816+240+816+192+0+0.01%0Ac+400+144+400+208+0+1.0E-8+7.712198881001765%0Aw+432+240+400+208+0%0Aw+400+144+400+80+0%0Ar+704+256+736+256+0+1.0%0Ac+768+192+768+224+0+1.0E-11+-0.7595659386014461%0Aw+752+240+768+224+0%0Aw+768+192+752+192+0%0Ac+656+256+704+256+0+5.0E-11+2.7588227041710365%0Aw+736+256+752+256+0%0Aw+752+256+752+240+0%0Aw+752+416+752+400+0%0Aw+736+416+752+416+0%0Ac+656+416+704+416+0+5.0E-11+3.517096994787844%0Aw+768+352+752+352+0%0Aw+752+400+768+384+0%0Ac+768+352+768+384+0+1.0E-11+-0.38507879120476757%0Ar+704+416+736+416+0+1.0%0Aw+656+416+624+400+0%0Aw+752+400+784+400+0%0Aw+624+400+656+400+0%0Ad+576+400+624+400+1+0.805904783%0Al+656+400+752+400+0+0.008+0.20962218312327202%0Aw+576+400+576+240+0%0Aw+784+400+816+400+0%0Aw+816+400+816+240+0%0Ad+624+352+624+400+1+0.805904783%0Ad+752+400+752+352+1+0.805904783%0Af+240+144+304+144+0+1.5%0Aw+432+80+432+48+0%0Aw+432+48+304+48+0%0Aw+304+48+304+128+0%0Aw+304+160+304+208+0%0Aw+304+208+400+208+0%0Aw+176+144+240+144+0%0AR+112+144+64+144+0+2+75000.0+12.0+0.0+-0.0+0.75%0Aw+112+144+176+144+0%0Aw+816+96+816+144+0%0Aw+864+144+864+176+0%0As+816+144+864+144+0+0+false%0Aw+864+176+816+192+0%0Ar+816+192+816+144+0+1000000.0%0Al+656+96+720+96+0+0.002+-0.15587765549950586%0Al+656+288+720+288+0+0.008+-0.053727264918739796%0Aw+656+288+624+352+0%0Aw+720+288+752+352+0%0Aw+720+96+768+192+0%0Aw+656+96+624+192+0%0Ac+656+352+720+352+0+5.0000000000000004E-8+-0.5554677486576018%0Aw+656+352+624+352+0%0Aw+720+352+752+352+0%0Ao+10+64+1+291+10.0+9.765625E-5+0+-1%0Ao+0+64+0+291+37.41444191567111+0.37414441915671115+1+-1%0Ao+59+64+0+291+40.0+0.4+2+-1%0Ao+79+64+0+35+20.0+0.2+3+-1%0A) ... when the drive goes away, using diodes to a capacitor, allow the coil's forward momentum to charge the coil. I later added a load resistor to measure power available there and another coil... so now there are two DC currents kept in the coils with a pulsing input.

This circuit (unfortunatly) must switch at the peek differential across the mosfet (+/- above and below neutral)... Better to use something like a vaccuum tube I'd think... I dunno; this is just a tuned clock for the LC constants...

If you switch the current to another coil, you won't get a resonant rise in your tank.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 25, 2013, 02:14:47 PM

Tesla's description says it all.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 25, 2013, 05:09:50 PM

Have you ever seen an electromagnetic field in free space, I have it was for me an awesome experience. I had the mazilli circuit hooked to a transformer I had made powering a light bulb about half brightness not so much that you could not look at it. I went to my shop about four in the morning it was very foggy, was drinking my coffee and hooked the system up, I could see the magnetic field around the light bulb and what looked like compression waves emanating from the bulb, I tried to catch it on video but it did not show up on film.
Iv thought of reproducing the effect with a humidifier but have never done it.
For me its as much about understanding how the fields work as it is about free energy thats why I have not tried to build a mechanical system, I believe its very simple we just have to find the key.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 26, 2013, 06:00:00 AM

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19820817&CC=US&NR=4345174A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19820817&CC=US&NR=4345174A&KC=A)
shows the use of the elektro-magnetic force and the severals distances force effect.
Extracting:
"The operation of the inventive engine 10 will now be described. It is first to be noted that the pull of an electromagnet varies as a function of the area of the holding surface muliplied by the square of the flux density divided by a constant. Also, that the flux density increases as the distance to the holding surface decreases. Hence, changes in the flux density is the greatest contributor to the pulling force of an electromagnet. Experiments conducted by the inventor have shown that an electromagnet powered by two "D" cell batteries can produce a holding force of 500 pounds and that the magnetic attraction force varies with the distance between the surface of the electromagnet and the item to be lifted. It was found, that at a distance of one-eighth of an inch, the force is approximately 7.8 pounds; at a distance of approximately one-twelfth of an inch the force is 31 pounds; at a distance of approximately one/twenty-fourth of an inch the force is 125 pounds; and, as stated, at contact, the force is 500 pounds. Thus, a usable force begins when the distance is one-eighth of an inch and increases rapidly thereafter."
Citation End.

Using capacitive windings was the trial to use this electron/ion wind thrust, instead "D"-cell batteries.

Sincerely
OCWL

p.s.: similar phaenomen http://techtran.msfc.nasa.gov/support/images/MFS-31419-1-Thruster.pdf (http://techtran.msfc.nasa.gov/support/images/MFS-31419-1-Thruster.pdf)
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19281115&CC=GB&NR=300311A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19281115&CC=GB&NR=300311A&KC=A)
from whom ,the fundamentals ? http://www.human-resonance.org/gravity_motor.html (http://www.human-resonance.org/gravity_motor.html)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 26, 2013, 09:30:23 AM

I think this is something different Tesla used the free ended coil off the secondary to bring in high voltages this is off the primary.

I think the ions are the key, in air purifiers a negative ion cloud forms around the positive electrode and a positive ion cloud forms around the negative electrode.
So if we use this principle a coil pulsed with negative electricity will have a positive bemf and this is exactly what we see, a high positive back emf.
If then a coil is pulsed with positive electricity the bemf should be of a negative polarity.
I think this is whats happening in the Old Scientist's demo the positive bemf from his primary is being absorbed by the open ended coil so the bemf from this coil is of a high negative polarity and runs back into the primary.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 26, 2013, 09:55:25 AM

What Iv been wondering is if a plate could be added to the end of the open ended coil to pull more energy into the system, this is showing us how to pull negative energy from the environment, an earth ground to the end of the open ended coil may also be advantages but I have not done the experiment.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 26, 2013, 12:34:15 PM

A plate or sphere is suggested to be added to increase output (added capacitance); and to balance the resonance of the extra coil to 3 times the frequency.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on December 27, 2013, 01:59:43 AM

This may be of use to us:

"Apparatus and method for minimizing electromagnetic emissions of technical emitters"
https://www.google.com/patents/US6611412?dq=free+energy&ei=3t6tUaf_OceV0AX1-4HYDA (https://www.google.com/patents/US6611412?dq=free+energy&ei=3t6tUaf_OceV0AX1-4HYDA)

QuoteThe present application concerns an apparatus and a method for minimizing electromagnetic emissions of technical emitters. Such methods and apparatuses are needed to minimize the potential vortex portions of electromagnetic alternating fields emitted by technical devices.

So, apparently we separate (bifilar or asymmetric inductors and capacitors), we amplify (collapsing or resonating EM field), and we collect (Avramenko or patent above). That's my take, anyway. But it still feels like it's missing something, elegant. ..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 27, 2013, 08:53:55 AM

Having problems with the circuit, doesnt act like the mosfet is conducting, I get 1k hz when I flip the switch but then nothing no more oscillations to the gate.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 27, 2013, 09:40:36 AM

mosfets can be faulty and have been known to stick. I suggest you try a replacement mosfet.
It's possible the 555 timer is from a rogue batch also as they are cheap and mass produced.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on December 27, 2013, 12:25:32 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 27, 2013, 08:53:55 AM
Having problems with the circuit, doesnt act like the mosfet is conducting, I get 1k hz when I flip the switch but then nothing no more oscillations to the gate.

Dear Dave45.

Try placing a small pF value capacitor between gate and ground. I have dim memories now but it might help !!

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 27, 2013, 02:47:02 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 27, 2013, 08:53:55 AM
Having problems with the circuit, doesnt act like the mosfet is conducting, I get 1k hz when I flip the switch but then nothing no more oscillations to the gate.

Need a pulldown resistor on the mosfet gate; there's nothing to relieve the pressure on the gate.
A capacitor on the gate will be the same as the gate itself

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on December 27, 2013, 03:10:49 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 27, 2013, 02:47:02 PM
Need a pulldown resistor on the mosfet gate; there's nothing to relieve the pressure on the gate.
A capacitor on the gate will be the same as the gate itself

Dear d3x0r.

Thanks for that !! I knew you had to put something between gate and ground. 1 M ohm now springs to mind. Twas along time ago for me and my basic electronics training !! ;D

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 27, 2013, 03:13:44 PM

Quote from: Grumage on December 27, 2013, 03:10:49 PM
Dear d3x0r.

Thanks for that !! I knew you had to put something between gate and ground. 1 M ohm now springs to mind. Twas along time ago for me and my basic electronics training !! ;D

Cheers Grum.

:)
Depends on how long you want for the fall time of the signal... and will also affect the rise time... which then brings you to the realm that you need a mosfet driver structure with a capacitance and another active part to dump that quickly to the mosfet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 27, 2013, 04:42:38 PM

Well no need to worry about that circuit anymore, went up in smoke even had fire lol, I ordered a ssr optoisolated rated at 80 amps 200 amps surge current 50v, gonna drive it with my function generator.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 27, 2013, 08:57:28 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 27, 2013, 04:42:38 PM
Well no need to worry about that circuit anymore, went up in smoke even had fire lol, I ordered a ssr optoisolated rated at 80 amps 200 amps surge current 50v, gonna drive it with my function generator.

SSR usually have a rather low frequency; at least what I saw when I was shopping

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 27, 2013, 10:41:38 PM

Dave45: Tito did his stuff using tesla type switches. That's where I am re experiments. May I suggest you go down that route also, although I would be interested in looking at the spec of your ssr. Could you post a link please?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 27, 2013, 10:45:43 PM

d3xor@ We don't need speed, we need power. If you look at Tesla's patents, High frequency is attained in make/break circuits.
Tesla has several 1896 patents that make the point.

In any case the igniter patent uses the principle anyway, and Tesla pulsed it at the speed of a car engine. maybe 3,000 rpm?

Are we doing good Tito? What do you think?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 27, 2013, 10:46:55 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 27, 2013, 10:45:43 PM
d3xor@ We don't need speed, we need power. If you look at Tesla's patents, High frequency is attained in make/break circuits.
Tesla has several 1896 patents that make the point.

In any case the igniter patent uses the principle anyway, and Tesla pulsed it at the speed of a car engine. maybe 3,000 rpm?

120Hz or less.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 06:51:12 AM

http://www.futurlec.com/Relays/SSRDC50V80A.shtml I ordered the heat sink as well, kinda expensive.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 28, 2013, 07:38:10 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 06:51:12 AM
http://www.futurlec.com/Relays/SSRDC50V80A.shtml (http://www.futurlec.com/Relays/SSRDC50V80A.shtml) I ordered the heat sink as well, kinda expensive.

so.. 1Khz max... but the issue will really be the 500us on/off time... not very sharp edges... just an observation

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 07:47:24 AM

As yall can tell I like drawing theory's ;D
This should be easy to test, where's that doorbell switch when ya need it.
lol Im so unorganized its pitiful

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 08:01:33 AM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 28, 2013, 07:38:10 AM
so.. 1Khz max... but the issue will really be the 500us on/off time... not very sharp edges... just an observation

Thanks I knew I should have researched it more, Im learning thanks to the people like you on the forum.
We'r gonna figure this out someday :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 08:21:19 AM

Im gonna wire this up with the Mazilli circuit, I know it works ;D lol
The only problem is I dont have a ferrite rod so I will use the flyback core.
lmao, I have to admit I enjoyed frying that circuit my patience was thin.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 08:29:02 AM

The ideal frequency should be where 1 and 3 hit the primary at the same time, its all about timing.
The reason for the diode on the primary leg is to keep current from the free ended coil from killing the driver.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 08:51:41 AM

I wonder wonder ho, ho wrote the book of love
I guess I had better get to my shop and quit wishing ;D
Hey this may help with the frequency if the open ended coil was trifilar.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 09:41:58 AM

I got stuck babysitting this morning so I guess ya'll will just have to put up with me. lol ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 28, 2013, 09:44:10 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 06:51:12 AM
http://www.futurlec.com/Relays/SSRDC50V80A.shtml (http://www.futurlec.com/Relays/SSRDC50V80A.shtml) I ordered the heat sink as well, kinda expensive.

The fact that inductive loads need to be diode suppressed is a disappointment.
The spike is just what we need.
I'll stick with Tesla for now.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 10:45:58 AM

What Im wondering is does the open ended coil have to be wound on the core, could it be outside the inductive path.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 10:49:49 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 28, 2013, 09:44:10 AM
The fact that inductive loads need to be diode suppressed is a disappointment.
The spike is just what we need.
I'll stick with Tesla for now.

We still get the spike but its in high current form rather than high voltage and moves in the right direction.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 11:30:17 AM

We need an open ended coil with a high self inductance so it should be wound on a ferrite rod.
Bifilar or trifilar would increase its capacitance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 11:44:22 AM

Initial pulse builds a magnetic field in the primary which has a positive high voltage bemf that runs back through the open ended coil building a magnetic field which has a negative high amperage bemf that runs back into the primary, pulling outside energy into the conductive path of the primary and secondary.
;D sure sounds good, I like it

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 12:09:20 PM

Now you can see the reason for the diode on the primary leg, you get a voltage drop across the diode but without it the driver would be destroyed by current bemf from the open ended coil.

This is of the assumption that neg energy attracts pos and pos energy attracts neg like the ion clouds that form around the electrodes of an air purifier.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 01:00:57 PM

Tesla states he did this off the secondary the next logical step would be to do the same off the primary, what you wanna bet he ran the Peirce Arrow with three ferrite or in his case magnetite cores.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 28, 2013, 02:07:40 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 08:21:19 AM
Im gonna wire this up with the Mazilli circuit, I know it works ;D lol
The only problem is I dont have a ferrite rod so I will use the flyback core.
lmao, I have to admit I enjoyed frying that circuit my patience was thin.

just need 2 coils.. they don't have to be coupled; the air coil rodin coils worked really well; other coils also worked ok; pancake was better than solenoid

EMF doesn't reverse the current....
The third coil beyond the diode will never get a current flow, because it will more likely draw current from the ground since that's lower resistance; lower... reactive inductance

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 28, 2013, 02:25:18 PM

The current in the secondary will change direction; current in the primary is always the same direction; current in the extra coil will be limited; after it charges to the positive supply it won't have as much effect

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 28, 2013, 02:35:21 PM

Added current and voltage graphs....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2013, 02:47:09 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 28, 2013, 02:07:40 PM
just need 2 coils.. they don't have to be coupled; the air coil rodin coils worked really well; other coils also worked ok; pancake was better than solenoid

EMF doesn't reverse the current....
The third coil beyond the diode will never get a current flow, because it will more likely draw current from the ground since that's lower resistance; lower... reactive inductance

Your right emf doesnt reverse the current, a collapsing magnetic field from a negatively pulsed coil is high voltage and it does run the other direction.
The same will be true for the open ended coil but its bemf will be current.
Time will tell, Im gonna build it.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 28, 2013, 03:04:41 PM

a building field is against current so current doesn't instantaneously flow
a collapsing field keeps the current going in the same direction...

a field that is induced by this changing flow will flow positive and negative but the original didn't suddenly go backwards

how much does it go backwards?

If as a train starts, it has a little slack and can accelerate quickly, then slower and slower as the cars play more of a role...
when the train engine stops, the cars will back up behind the train and keep it going forward... (plz?)show one example that current in a coil doesn't do exactly that?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 28, 2013, 03:23:51 PM

subtracting electrons from a electron pool makes the overall charge of that area more positive (less negative)... if you subtract all electrons from the pool then it is positive and wants to draw electrons...

{Just feel like I'm rambling ... The loose coil will charge slightly more than the positive voltage; especially if the pulses are applied to impart maximum peeks on... if the current is applied before L1 stops and perhaps reverses current, then... }

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 28, 2013, 03:45:19 PM

The model fails pretty quickly.... since I would soon need not-trains ....

maybe it's not an ertnal train smasher... probably more like a boxcar-motel like a roach-motel; cars check in but they can't check out... so there wouldn't be a way for the train cars to go the other way....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 28, 2013, 06:46:15 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9ARja0DiT0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9ARja0DiT0)

Let's get our feet onto the ground with some good experiments.
The above video is worth a good analysis.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 06:51:16 AM

I think what we have here is a failure to communicate. ;D from the movie

To me current flow is electron flow from neg to pos I have trained myself to look at it this way, to be honest I think current flows in the wire and voltage flows outside the wire this may prove out to be wrong but until I see something that changes my view this is the way I study coils and their reactions.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 29, 2013, 07:20:56 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 06:51:16 AM
I think what we have here is a failure to communicate. ;D from the movie

To me current flow is electron flow from neg to pos I have trained myself to look at it this way, to be honest I think current flows in the wire and voltage flows outside the wire this may prove out to be wrong but until I see something that changes my view this is the way I study coils and their reactions.

Right; hence the purple arrows...
so... drawing from negative gives you... more or less negative? more or less positive?
So... the moving of the blue minuses is more important than the moving of the red pluses, and I'll stop indicating positive current flow :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 07:26:14 AM

What would be a good mosfet driver, preferably using the 555 since I can get them at radio shack.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 29, 2013, 07:27:56 AM

having electrons move from ground/negative to plus makes the diode symbol make more sense; since it is then resembling a check valve that pushes a ball in the V out and allows flow, the other way pushes the ball into the V and stops the flow...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 07:38:24 AM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 29, 2013, 07:27:56 AM
having electrons move from ground/negative to plus makes the diode symbol make more sense; since it is then resembling a check valve that pushes a ball in the V out and allows flow, the other way pushes the ball into the V and stops the flow...

I like the analogy :) good one.
In the sim at falstad in the options menu there is electron flow as well as conventional view, I study both.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 07:57:02 AM

Just for kicks lets go down this path
Lets say voltage runs outside the wire like the magnetic field from pos to neg, when the inductor is powered up the voltage builds up in the inductor and moves no further, when the inductor turns off the voltage is released and surges on to the negative post.
would this fit the reactions we see in an inductor.
It would except for the fact that the inductor changes polarity when the power is turned off.

So we have to look at electron flow and the A vector field to understand whats happening.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 08:12:49 AM

If the polarity of the rebound (bemf) cannot be changed from pos to neg we are in trouble, if this is the case then we need to start looking at electromagnetic and static combinations for free energy.

But the air purifier model does give hope because of the pos and neg ion clouds that form around the electrodes, using this analogy a pos pulsed coil will return a neg rebound.

Electricity has to be bidirectional if it wasnt the the ion cloud would only form around one electrode and would have a deficit on the other.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 29, 2013, 08:32:29 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 07:57:02 AM
Just for kicks lets go down this path
Lets say voltage runs outside the wire like the magnetic field from pos to neg, when the inductor is powered up the voltage builds up in the inductor and moves no further, when the inductor turns off the voltage is released and surges on to the negative post.
would this fit the reactions we see in an inductor.
It would except for the fact that the inductor changes polarity when the power is turned off.

So we have to look at electron flow and the A vector field to understand whats happening.

If the positive source was disconnected, that end of the coil would become negative ...

Just because a neon is lit at both ends, and has a constant connection does not mean it changes direction... a spark gap is lit at both ends... but the flow will be one directional; especially if formed with a point and a dish (vacuum tube rectifier) which will only flow one way; but is lit through the gas to both sides...

I dunno I guess I've run out of examples; since you insist that not one of the examples resembles current in a coil well... leading a horse to water and such...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 08:34:24 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 08:12:49 AM
If the polarity of the rebound (bemf) cannot be changed from pos to neg we are in trouble, if this is the case then we need to start looking at electromagnetic and static combinations for free energy.

But the air purifier model does give hope because of the pos and neg ion clouds that form around the electrodes, using this analogy a pos pulsed coil will return a neg rebound.

Electricity has to be bidirectional if it wasnt the the ion cloud would only form around one electrode and would have a deficit on the other.

And a transformer transfer's voltage as well as current to the secondary.

Tesla used an open ended coil off the secondary to bring in more pressure as he put it, what if we do both off the primary to bring in neg current and off the secondary to bring in pos voltage.
I have the coils wound for a dc pulsed system and would like to see the reactions before changing to the mazilli circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 08:39:59 AM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 29, 2013, 08:32:29 AM
If the positive source was disconnected, that end of the coil would become negative ...

Just because a neon is lit at both ends, and has a constant connection does not mean it changes direction... a spark gap is lit at both ends... but the flow will be one directional; especially if formed with a point and a dish (vacuum tube rectifier) which will only flow one way; but is lit through the gas to both sides...

I dunno I guess I've run out of examples; since you insist that not one of the examples resembles current in a coil well... leading a horse to water and such...

We all have to follow our own path, I hope one of us finds the answer.
My views are very flexible I dont really set everything in stone yet when we can do that we have found the answer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 09:02:17 AM

You cannot pulse a primary with dc and get dc from the secondary without diodes, this alone should show you that the primary changes polarity and it does it at every 1/4 and 3/4 cycle in ac because ac is a coil being pulsed with alternate dc pulses to each end of the coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 29, 2013, 09:11:03 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 09:02:17 AM
You cannot pulse a primary with dc and get dc from the secondary without diodes, this alone should show you that the primary changes polarity and it does it at every 1/4 cycle in ac because ac is a coil being pulsed with alternate dc pulses to each end of the coil.

only says the secondary changes polarity...

I have to take back a little; if you disconnect positive that end will go negative, and once the field is gone, and has collapsed, then it can start rebuilding in the other direction from that ---- to the less - near ground... which will cause a backwards current... but at that point, it'll be the third phase on the secondary (already rose, already fell, and is falling again, which is a rise of current in the opposite direction)

Adding diodes to the neon/coil from before will either prevent it from working at all, or it will work.... which direction is the diode so it works?

Edit; hope I have a chance at a quick edit; I guess the neon will work too... but after the field is done, and all charge is stored in the capacitance of the diode, then the current will go backwards through the coil and fire across the neon in THAT direction; one way just adds an extra step.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 29, 2013, 09:33:46 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 09:02:17 AM
You cannot pulse a primary with dc and get dc from the secondary without diodes, this alone should show you that the primary changes polarity and it does it at every 1/4 cycle in ac because ac is a coil being pulsed with alternate dc pulses to each end of the coil.

Yes I can; and that second circuit does that; provided that switches are also momentary and instantaneous make-break....

If there is a lag... then you will see a up (via a scope) when the current starts, that will discharge through the probe resistor down to 0... then when you release you'll get a distinct 'down' but if these are back to back they are 0 to N to 0 and not negative... so depends on what your load circuit on the secondary looks like also... a fast enough make-break is the least loss through resistance and leakage capacitance, and the less swing to under 0.

I get DC pulse outputs on coils all the time; mind you I don't use ferrite when I'm observing this.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 29, 2013, 09:48:04 AM

And really; buried in there somewhere; you can take a normal magnet, and put it's north side against a coil and get a positive voltage... so a rising N field generates a current A... and falling N field generates opposite current B... but a rising S field generates a current B and a falling S field generates a current A.

But in the first 2 quadrants, the magnet (source field) did not change a) current flow, it's still a N... or B) direction that it's now not pointed at the core....

__
S (__O N <--- --- > 0)))))

(cylinder magnet, moves near to and far from coil )

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 10:06:55 AM

I tried to model the dc pulse this is what I got

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 10:08:45 AM

So this model is not correct and if its not correct whats happening......... I think pulsing a coil in one direction produces voltage, pulsing the same coil in the other direction produces current, then the model will work....... I think, will have to model and study it more.
Nothing is set in stone yet.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 29, 2013, 10:46:56 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 10:08:45 AM
So this model is not correct and if its not correct whats happening......... I think pulsing a coil in one direction produces voltage, pulsing the same coil in the other direction produces current, then the model will work....... I think, will have to model and study it more.
Nothing is set in stone yet.

What I can say; is a compass at the other side of the coil will not see a S if only a N is applied to and from the coil; especially if is on a core which will conduct the N better...

How is there a field which is (in?) a N but the current is the wrong direction? I dunno... and yet it is...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 01:57:17 PM

I used to think ac was just a dc pulse on each end of the coil but Im not so sure now it seems one pushes and one pulls this must be a reflection of the magnets used to induce ac into the coils at the generating station.
In order for there to be a 90 degree phase shift between current and voltage then the dc pulse would be current when the field is building and voltage when it is collapsing but when you apply this to the other end of the coil it works in reverse.
I used to work for an old man that said if you didnt use your head you might as well have two butts, well this is making one of my butts hurt.
This is wrong but Im going to post it so you can see the dilemma.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 02:49:46 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 01:57:17 PM
I used to think ac was just a dc pulse on each end of the coil but Im not so sure now it seems one pushes and one pulls this must be a reflection of the magnets used to induce ac into the coils at the generating station.
In order for there to be a 90 degree phase shift between current and voltage then the dc pulse would be current when the field is building and voltage when it is collapsing but when you apply this to the other end of the coil it works in reverse.
I used to work for an old man that said if you didnt use your head you might as well have two butts, well this is making one of my butts hurt.
This is wrong but Im going to post it so you can see the dilemma.

That cant be right either that would be a 45 degree phase shift, pulsing from one side must produce voltage and pulsing from the other side must produce amperage breaking in the center would give us the 90 degree phase shift, now to see if I can model it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2013, 03:43:40 PM

Decided to go with the Mazilli driver ;D tired of thinking about it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 30, 2013, 12:44:55 PM

RE-Post from Nov 2009:
"1300
solid state devices / Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« on: November 02, 2009, 11:42:48 PM »
Quote from: Goat on October 31, 2009, 04:41:15 PM
@ gotoluc

Don't worry too much about Tito, he's got some serious fall from grace to total GREED issues >:(

He started on this board with good intentions like http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5975.msg142206#msg142206 :

"I'm a born again Christian so
don't forget i love every body so be careful and take care!!!!.
lets save the EARTH!!!!!!!!!!!!"

And http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6421.msg146833#msg146833 :

"This is an invitation to every body to include your free energy device in a purpose of eliminating scam, fakes free energy device by
the comment of our geniouses in the forum so that everyone will benefit. pleassssse... help our children our mother earth."

And http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6421.msg146651#msg146651 :

"Please share any real working schemATIC, techniques, videos, pictures here.

EVERYBODY IS WELCOME!!!

Discussion is good but working device is what we need ;)

Beneficiary => everyone, earth.

I believe this is the purpose of this forum is to share real working device.

God Bless,"

So as you can see he had no problem asking for help and sharing at first but like all typical OU claims he took the road of GREED when he apparently discovered something that could help us all!

Now he bounces from thread to thread saying he's got it but refuses to share his design or provide input/output measurements for everyone to look at.

This is the reason that after more than 10 years of following and researching OU I gave away my materials because of the frustration of people like Richard Willis and Tito coming on these boards and taking from us then running away when they find something...it's a shame really that GREED doesn't care about millions dying every year while the chase for fortunes continues.

In the meantime I've resolved to monitoring and possibly helping where I can but I've given too much time money and effort on scam artists and incomplete information and decided to wait until a real OU unit of useful power is fully disclosed replicated and proven to work before investing any more time building anything.

Regards,
Paul

Hi everyone good day ;D

@paul
i would like to thank you for reminding my previous post. please give me more time think please.
maybe your right, i'm suffering from greed problems maybe due to the crisis i'm facing, but i would like you to know that i have also families to protect and really using this free energy to earn money. so for me clues are enough to help others, because clues here in this forum are also the reason why i come up in this stage ok. hope you understand.

@ luc
i understand you brother. and i'm sorry if i hurt you.

@ others
i don't care what you want to think, its up to you don't bother yourself for me.
if you are following some of my post i believe you can get it and i'm always telling the truth.

OK! OK! OK!
YOU CAN GET FREE ENERGY FROM HIGH VOLTAGE SOURCE AND FROM THAT HIGH VOLTAGE LINE YOU CAN CONNECT UNLIMITED TRANSFORMERS ONE ARM IS CONNECTED TO THE HIGH VOLTAGE LINE AND ONE IS ON EARTH THEN ADD THEM BY SERIES OR PARALLEL ITS UP TO YOU AND FROM THERE YOU CAN GET EXCESS OK!!!

PS: YOU CAN MAKE HIGH VOLTAGE EASILY ISN'T IT.

ALSO: OZONE PATENT OF NIKOLA TESLA REALLY GIVES US FREE ENERGY OK CHEW IT!!!

WAIT: USING BATTERIES YOU CAN ALSO MAKE VERY HIGH VOLTAGE OK!

BYE! ;D"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2013, 05:49:56 AM

Iv been playing with it a bit, it seems the coils open ended dont do much but when I hook a cap between the coils voltage on the load goes up, the voltage was terrible, on the load 5 volts or so when I hooked up the cap voltage went over 24 volts but the amp draw went up as well, Im gonna keep playin with it.
This is interesting the windings are pretty much 1:1

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2013, 06:03:34 AM

I havent tried this yet, Im slow and think about things alot but if I can change the frequency of the two sets of primary's I may get some reflection going on, create a standing wave.
Not sure but fun to think about then try ;D

Iv been reading Gotoluc and trying to understand reactive power and what causes it how its created in the transformer I have a hunch it has to do with the bemf of the coils, I'll be studying that as well,
We live in perilous but exciting times
keep up the good fight
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 31, 2013, 06:31:26 AM

after measurement corrections; I didn't look at both ends of the secondary when I measured it, it looked like the near end was going positive; after grounding probes and signal generator grounded, it is more apparent that the current induced by a rising current is in the opposite direction. This would make two north poles approaching...

to go back to a static case, a approaching north pole results in a current that is also a north pole and is repulsive to that magnet. When the north pole moves away, the current generated that is a south, which attracts the magnet, and makes the magnet will be harder to move away. (current directions reversed if south is applied, but still to first repel the approaching magnet, and then attract; evident by eddy currents actually dropping a magnet on a surface generates a pole that keeps that magnet away... and conversely will 'stick' to the magnet, not allowing it to move away)...

Back to coils, coil A has current A rising, coil B will have current B rising; a rising current B in coil B would make a rising current A in coil A... this appears to be a self reinforcing condition; even though the effective magnetic poles are inversed spacially...

Coil A has current A falling, coil B has current A rising; in coil B rising current A will cause a rising current B in A... since current A is diminishing, adding more current B will help it diminish faster...; this too is self reinforcing; so the more the current falls, the more it is applied to fall..

it would appear that a falling current has more chance to oscillate itself... the faster the current_A in coil_A falls, and coil_B, with a rising current_A makes a rising current_B in coil_A(opposing the already falling current_A)... ?the backwards current coil overtake will overtake current A... which will then be a rising current B in coil A, which is a rising current A in coil B, this was already the current in coil B... but then again it's probably a continuous limit;
As current_A in coil_A approaches 0, current_A in coil_B approaches max, then starts falling itself(least capacitance/most resistance)... a falling current_A in coil_B makes a rising current_A in coil_A... This will first cancel any excess current_B from the rising current_A in coil_B; and a rising current A in coil_A will make a rising current_B in coil_B; again reinforcing current_A in coil_B to go to 0... leaving Coil_A with current_A and coil_B with current 0

So the falling oscillation is really more than the capacitance of the scope probe accounts for.

A single coil though is like the magnet approaching and leaving... and a coil itself is similar to other momentum force...ie a current in motion will stay in motion;... with very little inductance (a straight wire) the current decays faster; and this is measurable by looking at the circuit with low resistance points so you can see where the potential differences are.

if have a positive/negative power source, when you disconnect a coil across those points, the first event is that the end previously connected to positive becomes negative and the end previously connected with negative becomes positive, which then rings down.... if there is nothing there; a null capacitance fill fill instantaneously and look like a reverse current; was trying to setup a model circuit to demonstrate all alone... It's the case of chokes that reminds me of this... they flow with a current, if a abnormal spike is encountered, it is smoothed (depending on size and inductive characteristics, but assuming enough inductance...)... which means that if it was a low dip, it would keep current at a similar level, if it was a high peek, then it would lag back and keep the same current....

In the sim; before I added a dioded capacitance, the empty capacitance of the switch filled in a tick, and the whole force looked like it was going backwards with a huge amount of negative force... but this clearly demonstrates a slow rise in current acorss the inductance, and disconnecting the power, the continued forward current of the coil. to the point that the wire off the diode is a negative voltage (extra electrons, coming from ground, carried in momentum).

Simulator to show forward momentum... (http://www.falstad.com/circuit/#%24+1+5.000000000000001E-7+1.7725424121461644+54+5.0+50%0AR+256+224+208+224+0+0+40.0+5.0+0.0+0.0+0.5%0Al+400+224+400+336+0+1.0+4.3700634063688384E-7%0Ag+288+336+288+368+0%0As+400+224+336+224+0+1+false%0Aw+256+224+336+224+0%0Aw+400+336+336+336+0%0As+336+336+288+336+0+0+false%0Ac+432+96+432+160+0+1.0E-5+9.999999999999601E-4%0Ad+400+176+400+224+1+0.805904783%0Ag+432+96+432+80+0%0Ac+400+224+464+224+0+2.0000000000000002E-7+2.1243111521775665E-4%0Ag+464+224+464+256+0%0Aw+400+176+432+176+0%0Aw+432+160+432+176+0%0Ao+1+64+0+291+0.009765625+9.765625E-5+0+-1%0Ao+12+64+0+291+0.009765625+9.765625E-5+1+-1%0A)

----
Edit: I'm done rambling here too... but I will finish this with thoughts after sketching some things...
Back EMF ringing proposed doesn't happen. The rising current would stop rising in the secondary when the primary has no current left... so given infinite capacitance, the current would just transfer completely from one to the other....
Though I suppose that's why twisted pair works better... two wires rise and fall faster than one alone. (3 4?)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2013, 06:37:15 AM

Look at where the reactive power shows up, right as the coils are switching, big clue ;)
If reactive power is bemf from the coils that means ac is not working perfectly with the magnetic rise and fall as I thought and leaves room for improvement ;D
We'r gonna figure this out and when we do its gonna be on like donkey kong ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2013, 07:44:21 AM

QuoteDuring part of the cycle the current is positive while the voltage is negative (or vice versa), as shown in the shaded areas; the current and voltage work against each other, creating reactive power. The device produces work only during the time represented by the non-shaded parts of the cycle, which represent the circuit's active power.

http://electrical-engineering-portal.com/electric-power-quality-lighting-1
The primary is fighting itself, the bemf from each side of the primary is opposing instead of aiding.
We can fix this.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2013, 07:53:38 AM

This is exactly why this model didnt make sense its right the voltage and amperage are pulsing from one side then the other its fighting itself, and not working together.
The grid frequency is 120 cycles but we only see 60 thats because half the time its producing voltage and half the time current but only using one primary is causing it to fight itself.
Well maybe not completely right, need to study it more.
I just love a good anomaly dont you ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2013, 08:11:50 AM

I think the problem is if we fix this in the transformer and power a motor we are still going to have a problem because the motor will create reactive power, we have to rewind the motor as well.
If a coil was pulsed from the center out and the coil was wound right the bemf should aid instead of fight the oscillation but the motor still needs to be rewound the same.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 31, 2013, 09:15:54 AM

HI EVERYBODY

H A P P Y N E W Y E A R!!!! ;D

I'VE MAID MY SILENCE ALREADY WHY ARE YOU STILL WAKING ME UP ???

I HAVE ALREADY TOLD MY REASON FOR ALL OF THOSE OK. >:(

AND I HAVE GIVEN ALL THE CLUES YOU NEED. :)

AND THE REAL THING THAT MADE ME ANNOYED IS THAT YOU TONGUE ME WHEN YOU DISCOVER SOMETHING!!! >:(

AND I DON'T LIKE THOSE PEOPLE ATTITUDE CAUSE THEY ARE THE REAL GREEDY!!! >:(

ANYWAY HAPPY NEW BLESSED YEAR ;)

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING? ITS JUST A MAKE/BREAK PROBLEM :-\
the area that you should being study are only those affected area only is it not? ???
When a capacitor is charged from a very high voltage and suddenly discharge in a coil, of course discharge it in a very very small fraction, in that point you need speed make/break.
AFTER DISCHARGE YOU CAN STILL DISCHARGE IT INTO ANOTHER SETS OF TRANSFORMER IS IT NOT. CAN'T YOU GET THAT?
TAKE NOTE: IT WAS ONLY CHARGE ONCE AND CAN BE DISCHARGE MORE THAN ONE. IS THAT HARD.
THE ONLY MISSING IN YOUR WORK IS THE STABILITY.
why don't you read tom brearden's paper's :)
its free ;)

KINDLY PLEASE INFORM HARTMAN "I WANT ALL MY POST ANYWHERE IN THIS FORUM TO BE REMOVE OK" >:(

OTITS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2013, 09:25:22 AM

Im going to the root of the problem, I'll get there and I'll know how it works when I do.
I tried pulsing the coils from the center out, in this configuration I get no action in the outer coils at all.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 31, 2013, 10:03:27 AM

Tito:
I think the real problem is that people are too lazy to make a Tesla controller.
They just want to buy some electrical products and use solid state devices.
I hear your message loud and clear and thank you for it.
And the igniter patent and ozone patents are perfect.
I like the way the ozone patent stops the shorting out if the controller
stops because the motor is part of the high induction set up.
I am interested in better make/break solutions than a fan.
Do you have a solid state relay or reed make/break?

Anyway Tito Happy New Year, and love to you and your family.
ps I hear you!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2013, 11:20:19 AM

Two sets of transformer's
It is strange how the n machine only puts out high amperage, I wonder if its direction were reversed would it put out high voltage.
Maybe thats the answer

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2013, 11:35:43 AM

I wonder could the output of two transformers be used to run one load, one putting out high voltage and one putting out high amperage.
The Mazilli will drive two transformer's alternately with a dc pulse to each.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on December 31, 2013, 03:54:32 PM

Thanks Tito, for ALL the hints. ;) Most inventors only speak in parables and hide their secrets in the design.

We'll figure this out eventually.

(Possible ping pong diagram attached. Cha-Cha-Cha ;) )

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2013, 04:39:31 PM

I'll bet the secondary could be interlaced using a figure 8 winding pattern, I used this between a primary and secondary and it worked fine I see no reason why it wouldnt work linking two cores.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 31, 2013, 06:18:02 PM

A blessed New Year to you and your family, Teets!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on December 31, 2013, 06:33:10 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 31, 2013, 09:15:54 AM
HI EVERYBODY

H A P P Y N E W Y E A R!!!! ;D

I'VE MAID MY SILENCE ALREADY WHY ARE YOU STILL WAKING ME UP ???

I HAVE ALREADY TOLD MY REASON FOR ALL OF THOSE OK. >:(

AND I HAVE GIVEN ALL THE CLUES YOU NEED. :)

AND THE REAL THING THAT MADE ME ANNOYED IS THAT YOU TONGUE ME WHEN YOU DISCOVER SOMETHING!!! >:(

AND I DON'T LIKE THOSE PEOPLE ATTITUDE CAUSE THEY ARE THE REAL GREEDY!!! >:(

ANYWAY HAPPY NEW BLESSED YEAR ;)

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING? ITS JUST A MAKE/BREAK PROBLEM :-\
the area that you should being study are only those affected area only is it not? ???
When a capacitor is charged from a very high voltage and suddenly discharge in a coil, of course discharge it in a very very small fraction, in that point you need speed make/break.
AFTER DISCHARGE YOU CAN STILL DISCHARGE IT INTO ANOTHER SETS OF TRANSFORMER IS IT NOT. CAN'T YOU GET THAT?
TAKE NOTE: IT WAS ONLY CHARGE ONCE AND CAN BE DISCHARGE MORE THAN ONE. IS THAT HARD.
THE ONLY MISSING IN YOUR WORK IS THE STABILITY.
why don't you read tom brearden's paper's :)
its free ;)

KINDLY PLEASE INFORM HARTMAN "I WANT ALL MY POST ANYWHERE IN THIS FORUM TO BE REMOVE OK" >:(

OTITS ;D

HAPPY NA NEW YEAR PA REPAPIPS
OTOT :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 31, 2013, 06:51:54 PM

A method and apparatus for extracting bidirectional EM wave energy from the vacuum through the scalar potential gradient across the terminals of an electrical source, collecting the excess energy in a collector without entropy, then separately discharging the collected energy through a load to perform work, without sending the load current back through the primary source against its potential gradient; i.e., against its back emf.
Removing the load current from the source thereby substantially reduces the production of work inside the source to dissipate its bipolarity; said internal dissipative work being well-known to be the cause of exhaustion of the source's ability to continue to furnish emf to the external circuit.
By reduction of its internal dissipation, the source is enabled to furnish more energy for dissipation in the external load than is utilized to dissipate the source internally.

Hence the source is enabled to operate with an overunity operational efficiency.

Bearden:
http://cheniere.org/techpapers/Final%20Secret%20of%2015%20Feb%201994/#Ref01

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2013, 07:12:17 PM

Another http://cheniere.org/techpapers/Final%20Secret%20of%2015%20Feb%201994/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2013, 07:15:41 PM

I rearranged the coils on my pet project (for now) putting in 12v 4.11 amps getting out 24.37v 4.51 amps ;D not bad for and old country boy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 01, 2014, 06:26:06 AM

Im gonna take some more measurements today, Iv been squeezing the core together by hand, Im going to zip tie that and take measurements.
Im using a clamp meter to take measurements if it still reads the same after securing the core halves I will work on getting it hooked to a scope.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 01, 2014, 06:57:18 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 31, 2013, 10:03:27 AM
Tito:
I think the real problem is that people are too lazy to make a Tesla controller.
They just want to buy some electrical products and use solid state devices.
I hear your message loud and clear and thank you for it.
And the igniter patent and ozone patents are perfect.
I like the way the ozone patent stops the shorting out if the controller
stops because the motor is part of the high induction set up.
I am interested in better make/break solutions than a fan.
Do you have a solid state relay or reed make/break?

Anyway Tito Happy New Year, and love to you and your family.
ps I hear you!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI1ewn5Qwts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI1ewn5Qwts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75MZ7KHOIu8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75MZ7KHOIu8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln9WM0zDDCg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln9WM0zDDCg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHogddMaHHI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHogddMaHHI)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-bUtlfqg4M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-bUtlfqg4M)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cq8EgmB1HM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cq8EgmB1HM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Be-IcxO-qM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Be-IcxO-qM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC-wJ1aEjFA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC-wJ1aEjFA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY&list=PL039D650AE6499A6A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY&list=PL039D650AE6499A6A) ;D ;D ;D lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 01, 2014, 07:52:07 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 31, 2013, 07:15:41 PM
I rearranged the coils on my pet project (for now) putting in 12v 4.11 amps getting out 24.37v 4.51 amps ;D not bad for and old country boy.

I rearranged the coil connections not the coils themselves, this system is putting the bemf to work exciting the winding on the secondary side.
The bemf from pulsing coils is not being used in our current system's I used to think ac worked perfectly with the rise and fall of a primary's magnetic field but after learning and reading about reactive power in ac motors and transformers there is room for improvement, this is where we will find the energy needed to get out more than we are putting in.
Even if my little system does not pan out this is the area I will be studying and experimenting with.
God Bless
Happy New Year
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 01, 2014, 09:44:57 AM

Take a heater or anything that draws alot of juice plug it into a wall socket turn it on then unplug it from the wall and watch the spark jump to the prongs thats reactive power, bemf in an ac system.
The primary of a transformer is fighting itself the bemf is being suppressing each half cycle.

I studied the primary connections of the Mazilli setup and thought the capacitor off the primary's were catching the bemf of the coils and running it back in on the next pulse and it is, but it can be put to work, put it to work.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 01, 2014, 09:53:53 AM

Tito: I guess you're saying that mechanical switching Tesla style is still the best.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 01, 2014, 09:59:59 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 01, 2014, 07:52:07 AM
I rearranged the coil connections not the coils themselves, this system is putting the bemf to work exciting the winding on the secondary side.
The bemf from pulsing coils is not being used in our current system's I used to think ac worked perfectly with the rise and fall of a primary's magnetic field but after learning and reading about reactive power in ac motors and transformers there is room for improvement, this is where we will find the energy needed to get out more than we are putting in.
Even if my little system does not pan out this is the area I will be studying and experimenting with.
God Bless
Happy New Year
dave

From what you're saying it looks like cop 2+ ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 01, 2014, 12:26:06 PM

Its ironic they say free energy is being suppressed and it is, in the very system used to transport it. Every motor can self run every transformer can self run.
Reactive power is wasted power, give it a path out and put it to work.
The reactive power (bemf) in a standard wound mazilli circuit is dissipated in the capacitor as heat, put it to work.
Overunity is the norm not the exception.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 01, 2014, 12:42:56 PM

Dave45: I understand the Mazilli circuit, but I am unsure about your windings on the flyback. Could you elaborate please.
BTW this ou discovery of yours - has it been recent?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on January 01, 2014, 02:12:20 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 01, 2014, 12:26:06 PM
Its ironic they say free energy is being suppressed and it is, in the very system used to transport it. Every motor can self run every transformer can self run.
Reactive power is wasted power, give it a path out and put it to work.
The reactive power (bemf) in a standard wound mazilli circuit is dissipated in the capacitor as heat, put it to work.
Overunity is the norm not the exception.

This was an experiment with adding so-called extra-coils as the load of the mazilli...

Extra-coils added to mazilli (http://www.falstad.com/circuit/#%24+1+4.0E-8+7.619785657297057+45+12.0+50%0Ag+496+384+496+400+0%0Af+400+128+448+128+0+3.0%0Af+400+288+448+288+0+3.0%0Aw+400+160+400+192+0%0Aw+448+112+480+112+0%0Aw+448+272+464+272+0%0Ar+320+80+320+128+0+1000.0%0Ar+320+128+320+160+0+10000.0%0Ar+320+288+320+256+0+1000.0%0Ar+320+288+320+320+0+10000.0%0Aw+320+288+352+288+0%0Aw+352+288+400+288+0%0Aw+320+128+352+128+0%0Aw+352+128+400+128+0%0Ag+320+160+320+192+0%0Ag+320+352+320+384+0%0Aw+176+96+176+256+0%0Aw+176+96+176+64+0%0Aw+320+64+320+80+0%0Al+480+48+544+48+0+0.064+0.003113934011140549%0Al+576+96+576+176+0+0.008+0.08453858497270632%0Al+576+240+576+304+0+0.008+0.10647728897158666%0Aw+576+96+512+96+0%0Aw+512+304+576+304+0%0Aw+576+240+576+208+0%0Aw+576+176+576+208+0%0Aw+544+208+544+48+0%0Aw+240+48+176+48+0%0Aw+176+48+176+64+0%0Aw+464+272+512+272+0%0Aw+512+272+512+304+0%0Aw+640+272+640+224+0%0Aw+480+112+512+112+0%0Aw+512+96+512+112+0%0Aw+640+112+640+160+0%0Aw+320+320+320+352+0%0Aw+448+144+496+144+0%0Aw+496+144+496+304+0%0Aw+496+384+496+368+0%0Aw+288+256+320+256+0%0Aw+192+256+176+256+0%0Aw+352+256+352+240+0%0Aw+352+272+352+288+0%0AR+112+96+80+96+0+0+40.0+24.0+0.0+0.0+0.5%0Aw+112+96+176+96+0%0Aw+352+256+352+272+0%0Aw+320+64+272+64+0%0Aw+256+64+176+64+0%0Aw+256+64+272+64+0%0Aw+288+256+192+256+0%0Aw+400+160+400+128+0%0Aw+576+304+608+304+0%0Al+720+96+768+96+0+0.002+4.336808689913629E-24%0Al+816+96+848+96+0+0.002+1.4738644332519511E-19%0Al+688+304+736+304+0+0.002+6.865515100884729E-19%0Al+784+304+832+304+0+0.002+3.3046482217358094E-19%0Ac+736+304+736+352+0+1.5000000000000002E-8+0.001000000000076752%0Ac+768+96+768+128+0+1.5000000000000002E-8+0.0010000000000244865%0Aw+768+128+816+128+0%0Aw+816+128+816+96+0%0Aw+736+352+784+352+0%0Aw+784+352+784+304+0%0Ac+832+304+832+352+0+3.0000000000000004E-8+0.0010000000000215225%0Ac+848+96+848+128+0+3.0000000000000004E-8+0.0010000000000085182%0Al+880+304+944+304+0+0.002+3.868975452429073E-19%0Al+880+80+944+80+0+0.002+5.625057712159562E-20%0Aw+848+128+896+128+0%0Aw+896+128+880+80+0%0Aw+832+352+896+352+0%0Aw+896+352+880+304+0%0Ac+944+304+944+352+0+6.000000000000001E-8+0.0010000000000010608%0Ac+944+80+944+128+0+6.000000000000001E-8+0.0010000000000000217%0Ag+944+352+944+384+0%0Ag+944+128+944+144+0%0Ad+496+336+496+368+1+0.805904783%0Ac+640+224+640+160+0+2.2000000000000002E-8+-48.651905164574615%0Aw+720+96+720+112+0%0Aw+720+112+688+112+0%0Aw+688+112+672+96+0%0Aw+448+304+496+304+0%0Aw+496+304+496+336+0%0Aw+640+112+576+96+0%0Aw+576+304+640+288+0%0Aw+640+288+640+272+0%0Aw+544+208+576+208+0%0Aw+352+240+384+240+0%0Ad+384+240+384+192+1+0.805904783%0Aw+384+192+384+96+0%0Aw+384+96+480+96+0%0Aw+480+96+480+112+0%0Ad+400+192+400+240+1+0.805904783%0Aw+400+240+464+240+0%0Aw+464+272+464+240+0%0Aw+480+48+240+48+0%0Ac+400+112+400+64+0+1.24E-9+1.561384026917982%0Ag+400+64+432+64+0%0Aw+400+112+400+128+0%0Ac+400+288+400+336+0+1.24E-9+21.81818181818176%0Ag+400+336+400+368+0%0As+688+304+656+304+0+1+false%0Aw+608+304+656+304+0%0As+672+96+640+96+0+1+false%0Aw+576+96+640+96+0%0Ac+496+16+528+16+0+4.4000000000000005E-9+-1.400710164266922%0Aw+544+48+528+16+0%0Aw+480+48+496+16+0%0Ao+43+64+1+291+5.0+9.765625E-5+0+-1%0Ao+26+64+0+35+80.0+0.1+1+-1%0Ao+53+64+0+35+7.62939453125E-5+9.765625E-5+2+-1%0Ao+55+64+0+43+7.62939453125E-5+9.765625E-5+3+-1%0Ao+19+64+0+35+80.0+0.05+4+-1%0Ao+75+64+0+35+160.0+0.2+5+-1%0Ao+11+64+0+35+40.0+0.025+6+-1%0Ao+21+64+0+43+160.0+0.2+7+-1%0A)

I like LEDs as a load for the energy in the tank... can use the high voltage and only a slight current; leaving most of the power in the tank... I ended up using another coil pair inductively coupled with the primary and was able to light an incandescent... so it's not impossible to drive high current, but not directly from the resonant tank... although I guess maybe a tap for the high voltage to a high current transformer might work too...

Lots of ways to use that power; and yes, at that time the available power far exceeds what's available from the source (or used from the source)...

{spoiler; couldn't make the text tranparent... but it's the sum of all inputs... so if it's 100X the power, if you take it all in 1X time, it'll take 100X inputs to get it to (resonant rise) back to that point }

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 01, 2014, 02:44:48 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 01, 2014, 12:42:56 PM
Dave45: I understand the Mazilli circuit, but I am unsure about your windings on the flyback. Could you elaborate please.
BTW this ou discovery of yours - has it been recent?

The bifilar windings on the primary give the bemf a path out, then the bemf is connected to the extra winding on the secondary this is allowing the bemf to do work instead of just dissipating as heat in the capacitor.
In a normal transformer the reactive power is suppressed by the alternating pulse and dissipates as heat in the transformer, bifilar windings provide a path to bring the bemf out then it can be used to do work, add to the transforming action.
Anything that produces reactive power can self run.
Guys Im a little nervous about this, Iv told all I understand do the experiments.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 01, 2014, 03:06:52 PM

Nice work Dave! I believe voltage is the real energy doing work. It comes from analogy with water where only pressure can do work, and concept that water flow can do work is misleading, flow have pressure and change it into other form of energy !
In water when pressure is changed we know that work was done. In electric circuit due to Ohm law current is unchanged when work is done , while voltage is lowered.

Now reactive power is when we have voltage which has no required amount of current to do work. ;) So it tries to escape somewhere where it could ...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on January 01, 2014, 04:24:42 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 01, 2014, 02:44:48 PM
The bifilar windings on the primary give the bemf a path out, then the bemf is connected to the extra winding on the secondary this is allowing the bemf to do work instead of just dissipating as heat in the capacitor.
In a normal transformer the reactive power is suppressed by the alternating pulse and dissipates as heat in the transformer, bifilar windings provide a path to bring the bemf out then it can be used to do work, add to the transforming action.
Anything that produces reactive power can self run.
Guys Im a little nervous about this, Iv told all I understand do the experiments.
dave

Dear Dave45.

I can understand your nervousness you might just have nailed it !! :)

I hope you don't mind but I have slightly elongated your schematic to clearly show the bifilar. I am right that the Green junction between the primary coils is correct ??

Are you able to give us some extra info as regards number of turns, rotation, gauge and secondary cap value ?? Then a few more of us could help verify your findings.

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on January 02, 2014, 01:41:10 AM

Here's some really good Tesla quotes and schematics for those following the path: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm#035 (http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm#035)

"Speaking of your not having perfectly undamped waves at that time, you were referring to that character of circuit?"
Tesla
"Yes, but with another kind of circuit I could, of course. The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in the technical papers. I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.

I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive. "

Dave: Nice work :) . Please post any more details that might be useful. I'm curious to know the frequency and if you have some scope shots?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 02, 2014, 10:50:48 AM

Well folks looks like I made a very amateurish mistake, I extended the load away from the transformer and my amp output went way down, the magnetic field of the transformer was effecting my clamp meter.
Next time I will get confirmation before publishing results.
Whew, actually thats a relief in a way.
Back to the hunt,
sorry
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on January 02, 2014, 11:51:36 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 02, 2014, 10:50:48 AM
Well folks looks like I made a very amateurish mistake, I extended the load away from the transformer and my amp output went way down, the magnetic field of the transformer was effecting my clamp meter.
Next time I will get confirmation before publishing results.
Whew, actually thats a relief in a way.
Back to the hunt,
sorry
dave

Dear Dave45.

Well at least you had the B***s to admit it !! :)

However you may well be on to something so with that in mind would you be willing to address my earlier post ?? http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg381299/#msg381299

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 02, 2014, 04:02:01 PM

Hey Grumage here's a pic of the setup, I fried my transistors today so I'll have to build it again, I have extra's. Yes the coils all joined in the center, the cap value changed as I played with the system, I didnt get to do much tuning accidently shorted the primary and smoked the transistor's.
I did get a voltage increase even though the windings are pretty much 1:1, there is an extra turn on the secondary but the wire guage is the same 16 ga.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 02, 2014, 04:59:55 PM

Dave 45: If you want the free coils to work as per Colorado Springs you have to change the wiring of the free coils and leave a loose connection or the resonant rise effect will short out to the main windings. Then there will be an inductive load seen on the main coils.
The old scientist used a shorted avramenko to isolate the free coil. This is essentially what Tesla said.

Anyway thanks for the pic. This is almost the same as what Geofusion did on the Dally thread.
Please note: Resonant rise as per Tesla is NOT the resonant rise taught today.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 02, 2014, 08:43:47 PM

Why Tito prefers Tesla's ozone patent to Tesla's igniter patent.

There is one fundamental difference in the ozone patent and it is this:

The ozone patent routes the power through the electric motor driving the circuit controller.

This has the effect of Stochastic mixing. The spark gap in the electric motor is adding
energy to the power already in the circuit.
Additionally by routing the power through the motor, it will not short if the motor should lose power because
the rest of the circuit will move the contacts on.
So the ozone patent is better.
Benitez talks about the same thing in his patents 100 years ago.

Nice one Tito.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 03, 2014, 01:58:09 AM

No, every Tesla patent show something new and only by combining it all you will see the whole picture.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 03, 2014, 03:02:30 PM

Thinking out load here.

Tito has said things like "very fast make/break" and "its the arrangement of capacitor discharging separate from the source to the coil" and "did you try discharging many caps sequentially on a coil? and charging them sequentially also?"

Also MileHigh explained here about back emf energy being the same as the energy put into a coil to energize it. http://www.overunity.com/12686/is-joule-thief-circuit-gets-overunity/msg345672/#msg345672

Now, what if... you pulse a coil with just enough energy to charge it, disconnect the charge source, send the back emf into a second coil, take the back emf from the second coil and send to a third coil, before reconnecting the charge source to the first coil, and repeat.

Could we not harvest energy from the magnetic field of all three coils?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 03, 2014, 03:18:17 PM

No, but I think you are closer...the theory is not a secret, Tesla said it in many places but indirectly....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 03, 2014, 03:39:42 PM

That was a mighty quick "No". Would you mind explaining why? Has anyone ever tried it?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 03, 2014, 06:54:31 PM

Quote from: Cadman on January 03, 2014, 03:02:30 PM
Thinking out load here.

Tito has said things like "very fast make/break" and "its the arrangement of capacitor discharging separate from the source to the coil" and "did you try discharging many caps sequentially on a coil? and charging them sequentially also?"

Also MileHigh explained here about back emf energy being the same as the energy put into a coil to energize it. http://www.overunity.com/12686/is-joule-thief-circuit-gets-overunity/msg345672/#msg345672 (http://www.overunity.com/12686/is-joule-thief-circuit-gets-overunity/msg345672/#msg345672)

Now, what if... you pulse a coil with just enough energy to charge it, disconnect the charge source, send the back emf into a second coil, take the back emf from the second coil and send to a third coil, before reconnecting the charge source to the first coil, and repeat.

Could we not harvest energy from the magnetic field of all three coils?

Well if Milehigh is right then your just bouncing around 10 joules from one coil to the other, to use his power example.
But it has been shown that a capacitor can be step charged with voltage only, no current, so maybe this is the answer, like Tito says high voltage into cap discharged into a coil, I just wish I had a circuit schematic for that :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 03, 2014, 07:44:03 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 03, 2014, 06:54:31 PM
Well if Milehigh is right then your just bouncing around 10 joules from one coil to the other, to use his power example.
But it has been shown that a capacitor can be step charged with voltage only, no current, so maybe this is the answer, like Tito says high voltage into cap discharged into a coil, I just wish I had a circuit schematic for that :-\

Tito has told us a million times to look at the following patents: They contain the disruptive discharge circuit.Tesla essentially shorts a capacitor for a fraction of a second and generates radiant energy.

Quote from: a.king21 on January 02, 2014, 08:43:47 PM

Why Tito prefers Tesla's ozone 1888 patent to Tesla's igniter 1886 patent.

There is one fundamental difference in the ozone patent and it is this:

The ozone patent routes the power through the electric motor driving the circuit controller.

This has the effect of Stochastic mixing. The spark gap in the electric motor is adding
energy to the power already in the circuit.
Additionally by routing the power through the motor, it will not short if the motor should lose power because
the rest of the circuit will move the contacts on.
So the ozone patent is better.
Benitez talks about the same thing in his patents 100 years ago.

Nice one Tito.

You can test the circuit without using a Tesla controller also known as Tesla switch.
Just do it by hand.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 03, 2014, 08:35:35 PM

QuoteWell if Milehigh is right then your just bouncing around 10 joules from one coil to the other

Granted some energy will be lost between the coils but each 'bounce' could be used to do some work.

Think about it, a coil will collapse its field in a very short span of time. What could we get if we charged up a cap with some serious energy then discharged it through a coil train like this via some "very fast make/breaks" ?

The first coil when energized will create a magnetic field, which can be used by a secondary coil via induction, and that energy could, for instance, be stored in a cap, or perhaps forwarded for other use. Ditto for the remaining coils in the train, and the final coil in the train could also dump any residual BEMF into a cap. So we would, from each pulse from the source, charge multiple caps.

Since the pulse would be DC, parallel the coils and use diodes (or a Tesla switch) to allow only the reversed polarity BEMF current to go from one coil to the next in line, then the reverse BEMF current from that coil to the next, etc.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on January 03, 2014, 09:18:20 PM

Quote from: Cadman on January 03, 2014, 08:35:35 PM
Granted some energy will be lost between the coils but each 'bounce' could be used to do some work.

Think about it, a coil will collapse its field in a very short span of time. What could we get if we charged up a cap with some serious energy then discharged it through a coil train like this via some "very fast make/breaks" ?

The first coil when energized will create a magnetic field, which can be used by a secondary coil via induction, and that energy could, for instance, be stored in a cap, or perhaps forwarded for other use. Ditto for the remaining coils in the train, and the final coil in the train could also dump any residual BEMF into a cap. So we would, from each pulse from the source, charge multiple caps.

Since the pulse would be DC, parallel the coils and use diodes (or a Tesla switch) to allow only the reversed polarity BEMF current to go from one coil to the next in line, then the reverse BEMF current from that coil to the next, etc.

takes a longer time to get the coil up to charge... for as much forward momentum you impart is as much as you get back out; just at a different time rate... in 1v 1A for 1S and get 1GV 1A in 1nS which is a huge spike but no more power than you put in; I tried to track information on this step charging which was indeed anomolous; looked like most papers resulted in 'because of the incomplete treatment of parts as pure capacitance or pure inductance leads to anomolous calculations; but in reality a capacitor has a small in inductance because a current does flow... so a capacitor cannot charge instantaneously"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 03, 2014, 09:40:38 PM

The bemf is caused by the collapsing magnetic field so if you put in 10 joules take 7 joules from the coil via induction the bemf would only be 3 joules.

@d3x0r
The trick would be to use high voltage and not take all power from the cap just short high power pulses after the cap was fully charged. I too have been looking to build the circuit,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 03, 2014, 09:52:57 PM

One shot multivibrator , can we drive this with a 555 square wave generator, through pin 4

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 03, 2014, 09:55:44 PM

Tesla:
In an undamped circuit 1 kw will deliver max of 1 kw.
In a damped circuit 1 kw can deliver 100s of killowatts.
Tesla speak: Undamped circuit = sine wave or similar
Damped circuit is spike energy or radiant energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 03, 2014, 10:02:55 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 03, 2014, 09:55:44 PM
Tesla:
In an undamped circuit 1 kw will deliver max of 1 kw.
In a damped circuit 1 kw can deliver 100s of killowatts.
Tesla speak: Undamped circuit = sine wave or similar
Damped circuit is spike energy or radiant energy.

If thats the case then bemf would be considered a damped wave.
Im out for the evening see ya'll tomorrow.
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 03, 2014, 10:09:36 PM

One more time:

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on January 04, 2014, 02:00:43 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 03, 2014, 10:09:36 PM
One more time:

a.king, allow me to paraphrase and correct me if I'm wrong.

1: Charged capacitor is discharged quickly and briefly into low resistance, low inductance wire. Current flow (momentum) begins.
2: Circuit is broken. Momentum continues along wire.
3: Momentum causes scalar/longitudinal/current/RE wave to spread out from wire in every direction (seeking balance).
4: Some momentum is caught in choke coil.
5: Momentum ceases but choke is partially overcharged
6: Choke discharges through capacitor and (mostly) recharges it.

For visualizing, it's kinda like the 'exploding wire' experiments except leaving the wire intact.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 04, 2014, 04:31:38 AM

simple question : was Tesla igniter patent used in car ? can you trace the actual working circuit from old times ? what was the parameters of components and their arrangement ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 04, 2014, 05:58:57 AM

This is what Tito has been saying all along!!!
The principle is a circuit of high inductance which discharges through a circuit of low inductance.
Better if the low inductance is bifilar.
The secondary of the low inductance circuit can charge a whole heap of capacitors.
Then use your imagination.

The beauty is that it uses very little current because the cap acts as an off switch. ie
it charges to the level of the battery. Secondly, the radiant energy burst also partially charges
the battery - so the key is a very fast make break. The polarity of the collapsing field is
correct with respect to the battery.
This is Tesla's disruptive method of power generation.

What we need is an electronic way of switching. I have nothing but trouble with
the mechanical switches.

Just build it!! Then you understand. You don't need a switch you can test it manually.
1.2 volts lights a heap of ne2 bulbs and can charge a stack of caps.

Re Tesla car. I really have no idea what he used, but He was aware of Figuera and possibly Benitez.
However his ozone patent uses an electric motor as the high inductor, so Tesla could have
easily adapted that patent to run a car.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 04, 2014, 06:17:48 AM

Thanks Reiyuki for posting this http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm#035

QuoteThis [Fig. 36] is a form of break which I developed in working with alternators. I recognized that it was of tremendous advantage to break at the peak of the wave. If I used just an ordinary break, it would make and break the current at low as well as high points of the wave. Of this apparatus I had two forms; one in which I drove the break right from the shaft of the dynamo and the other in which I drove it with an isochronous motor. Then, by a movement of these knobs (K K), I would make the adjustments so that the makes would occur exactly at the top of the wave. That is a form of break which is embodied in hundreds of patents and used now extensively.

If we want to build this solid state this is where we need to start, Tesla was not letting the field fall he was driving it, there would be no bemf. no reactive power in the primary.

We need a power oscillator like the Mazilli driver but the mazilli depends on the bemf to switch, I noticed this when running different coil orientations on my toy, as long as the coils where bucking you got oscillation but in a non bucking orientation no oscillations.

But you could also build damped waves using a pulsed dc system, think of it like this if you have a flywheel with a rubber band ran through the center (axle) if you push the flywheel the flywheel moves forward then comes back because of the rubber band (thats the undamped wave) but if you hit the flywheel in pulses repeatedly before it can come back or loose momentum then thats the damped wave--------peak to peak switching.
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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 04, 2014, 06:49:53 AM

peak to peak switching using alternating current and pulsed direct current.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 04, 2014, 07:22:47 AM

updated the pulsed dc image, pulsed dc at 45 degrees if pulsed at 90 degrees then we would get sine wave.
pulsed dc needs to be hit at 22.5 degrees, peak to peak.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 04, 2014, 07:51:13 AM

Pulsed dc looks great on paper but will it drive up voltage and amperage or just voltage.

Think alternating current hitting a single coil as in a primary, I think when it hits one side it creates voltage then when it hits the other side it creates amperage if and thats a big if this is true then a pulsed dc coil will only produce either high voltage or high amperage depending on which side the coil is hit.

Extremely high voltage or amperage alone is of no use to us we need both, can both be produced in one system? Not sure.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 04, 2014, 08:14:16 AM

I think this is why Tesla was using capacitive discharge peak to peak. Instead of repetative pulseing one side of a coil he was driving the system using very high pressure in both directions and getting both high voltage and high current.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on January 04, 2014, 09:16:28 AM

Quote from: forest on January 04, 2014, 04:31:38 AM
simple question : was Tesla igniter patent used in car ? can you trace the actual working circuit from old times ? what was the parameters of components and their arrangement ?

Dear forest.

The simple answer to that question is NO. Tesla's patent date for that device was a couple of years before the first motorcar took to the road !! He is describing a system of HT ignition for the now common, at that time, Gas engines (Gas not Gasoline ) that were for the most part using a method of ignition known as Hot tube !! Ever wondered where the name Chauffer came from ?? A French word meaning to heat up !!

HT ignition was first tried in the 1860's by Étienne Lenoir but was not very popular because the Spark plug kept breaking down. But by the 1890's they had been perfected to provide a reliable ignition source.

I hope you enjoyed that little trip into the past ? I have been restoring early Gas engines for most of my adult life !!

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 04, 2014, 09:23:37 AM

Please bear with me Im just trying to get it straight in my head ;D
Normally we pulse an alternate pulse into the primary at 180 degrees letting the field collapse and if voltage and amperage move in opposite directions through a circuit this is how it would work.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 04, 2014, 09:28:52 AM

The capacitor discharge is automatic on peak. Every time I pulse 1.2 volts I light a neon.
Tesla is one genius man.
All we have to do is to switch it.
The ozone patent is even wilder because it mixes the electric motor with the discharge and you get stochastic mixing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 04, 2014, 10:02:00 AM

Notice he isnt running current from his prime mover through his primary, he's using the cap on both ends. He just using the prime mover to excite the primary.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 04, 2014, 10:07:52 AM

I did the same here and got a voltage increase but not an amperage increase :-\
But then again the mazilli is a zero switching circuit.
So look at the mazilli what makes it dependant on bemf, the only thing I see in the circuit that would make this bemf dependant would be the diode and its position relative to the coils. The diode has to be the feedback to make the transistors switch.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 04, 2014, 10:26:34 AM

What if the position of the diode were changed from the back of the coils to the front would it then switch at the peak of the wave. Im going to breadboard it this time so I can move things around a bit, maybe Id better order more transistors now ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on January 04, 2014, 12:23:20 PM

Dave45, I don't think a Zero-Cross amplifier is going to get the effect you're looking for. You need a more disruptive discharge; in the above circuit you are merely pushing the cap back and forth with current.

The best analogy of operation would be a Hydraulic Ram Pump. http://www.electronicpeasant.com/projects/rampump/pumpdiag.gif

Briefly open a valve allowing a flow of water. The water gains momentum as it flows. The valve slams shut and high pressure forces the water to take another path. In plumbing it is called 'water hammer'.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 04, 2014, 01:31:41 PM

Seems that motor coils are the only solution :-\ I tried to make choke from 1:1 transformer in bifilar but current is still too high. I don't like to test Tesla circuit AC version but rather to stick with DC so here is maybe a problem. There is too low chokes for 230VDC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 04, 2014, 02:17:33 PM

Quote from: Reiyuki on January 04, 2014, 12:23:20 PM
Dave45, I don't think a Zero-Cross amplifier is going to get the effect you're looking for. You need a more disruptive discharge; in the above circuit you are merely pushing the cap back and forth with current.

I agree but I boarded the circuit up just to move the diode connections and see if I can get it to switch peak to peak, hear it is as it should be, time to get back at it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on January 04, 2014, 02:38:16 PM

Dear All.

Any ideas as to what is going on here ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNBuUvHDe1k

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 04, 2014, 03:11:40 PM

Thank You Grumage and congratulations !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 05, 2014, 01:56:26 AM

"
1279
TPU replications (http://www.overunity.com/tpu-replications/) / Re: Steven Marks secret (http://www.overunity.com/8141/steven-marks-secret/msg213179/#msg213179)« on: December 07, 2009, 05:06:08 AM
high everyone good day!

here is the secret of steven mark!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6UOF5NUF8w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6UOF5NUF8w)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-lt63Si8IU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-lt63Si8IU)

all you have to do then is amplify ok

try ozone patent!

finished!!! "

Now maybe you can understand this Tito post.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on January 05, 2014, 02:29:01 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 05, 2014, 01:56:26 AM
"
1279
TPU replications (http://www.overunity.com/tpu-replications/) / Re: Steven Marks secret (http://www.overunity.com/8141/steven-marks-secret/msg213179/#msg213179)« on: December 07, 2009, 05:06:08 AM
high everyone good day!

here is the secret of steven mark!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6UOF5NUF8w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6UOF5NUF8w)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-lt63Si8IU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-lt63Si8IU)

all you have to do then is amplify ok

try ozone patent!

finished!!! "

Now maybe you can understand this Tito post.

there was another guy experimenting with TPU coils somewhere... he had it offset from the center... so it was in a plane of the loop of the coil... this would be a displacement current from in-out (and only works with one layer... otherwise you get in-out out-in in-out-out-in and they all cancel to 0... the tpu coil seems to be the only remote way to pick up displacement current.. but the capacitance between two long wires next to each other is very small. And I would think there would be an additional complictaiton as first the displacement is between the wire and its insulation before it's between the windings... so it would be better to have wire that had a single shared dielectric... or even bare wire seperated by string or something...
But the other issue is that current will be distributed along the length... so if it's an amp and many cm long; it quickly becomes a much diminished current by space it covers...

The other way I think it might work is if you had a long high stack of plates; a mica capacitor with lots of layers linearly; at a resonant frequency the capacitance should be able to be used as the smallest of the total as opposed to the 1/c1+c2+... that it would be with capacitance in series... then horizontal conductors along the length can get induced displacement current.... but I dunno maybe something carbon tube engineered...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 05, 2014, 11:09:06 AM

This is not the point Tito is making.
He says the secret is energy amplification, so you can start with a small voltage
and get higher.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 05, 2014, 12:03:28 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 05, 2014, 11:09:06 AM
This is not the point Tito is making.
He says the secret is energy amplification, so you can start with a small voltage
and get higher.

Exactly , exactly.... higher voltage = higher power, because voltage is the EMF = momentum= pressure. The only trick is to move those damn electrons.I figured out that ONLY voltage could be the reason for power ! it's simple ! because only force can DO work, mass in rest cannot move even a fly...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 05, 2014, 02:23:10 PM

Quote from: forest on January 05, 2014, 12:03:28 PM

Exactly , exactly.... higher voltage = higher power, because voltage is the EMF = momentum= pressure. The only trick is to move those damn electrons.I figured out that ONLY voltage could be the reason for power ! it's simple ! because only force can DO work, mass in rest cannot move even a fly...

That's why we need a big kick. A short sharp discharge give you amps also.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 05, 2014, 02:40:14 PM

Will you not get the big kick from a series wound bifilar pancake coil, largely without the amperage?
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 05, 2014, 02:47:18 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on January 05, 2014, 02:40:14 PM
Will you not get the big kick from a series wound bifilar pancake coil, largely without the amperage?
B

Well I am only quoting Tesla no - one else. Tito's views coincide with Tesla.
As for no amperage? Well what if you discharged through a big coil. Would you not get a big magnetic field?
Isn't amperage dependent on the size of the magnetic field?
This is the point everyone is missing. You short a cap. But what through???
The bifilar coils appears to be good at electricity multiplication. But it's the cap discharge which gives the amperage.
Unless you used the bifilar as a cap.......

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 05, 2014, 03:07:42 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRos1beoQp4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUyuX9xW95-jr1Qj_iELOo5Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRos1beoQp4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUyuX9xW95-jr1Qj_iELOo5Q)

What do we make of this???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 05, 2014, 06:40:23 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 05, 2014, 02:47:18 PM
Well I am only quoting Tesla no - one else. Tito's views coincide with Tesla.
As for no amperage? Well what if you discharged through a big coil. Would you not get a big magnetic field?
Isn't amperage dependent on the size of the magnetic field?
This is the point everyone is missing. You short a cap. But what through???
The bifilar coils appears to be good at electricity multiplication. But it's the cap discharge which gives the amperage.
Unless you used the bifilar as a cap.......

My response refers specifically to Tesla's patents (see the last line in the link) and Tito's mention of it on a number of occasion over the course of this thread:
http://www.tfcbooks.com/patents/0512340.htm
Judging from the progression of thought in your response, I'd say we're dancing around the same proverbial fire.

Your link to the Bedini-type experiment was further elaborated by everybodyseye (YT user). Perhaps you saw it.
The inductive back spike or bemf (as some call it) or radiant kick-back in this setup is similar to the starting point for Tito's apparatus, I believe. However, I think the main difference is that Tito's setup involves no moving parts (but same radiant event principle as I see it). I think the moving Bedini style setup can be used just as effectively - just a different starting point for the initial pulse.
Regards,
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 05, 2014, 06:49:01 PM

Yes, I'm mindful that Tesla said in a court case that a disruptive discharge amplifies both amperage and voltage.
I'll try and find the link.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on January 06, 2014, 03:12:45 PM

Hi A.King,

Steinmetz also mentioned that you want the e and b field to collapse simultaneously to create the largest transient. This is one reason I think semiconductor switching will not work as well. Semiconductors add a latency to both the e and b field instead of collapsing together, like a mechanical switch or spark gap, the fields collapse out of phase with each other depending on the capacitance/inductive value of coil. Tesla was trying to make a fast spark gap to remove as much latency as possible and increase switching speed.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on January 06, 2014, 06:06:18 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 05, 2014, 03:07:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRos1beoQp4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUyuX9xW95-jr1Qj_iELOo5Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRos1beoQp4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUyuX9xW95-jr1Qj_iELOo5Q)

What do we make of this???

Like a grid tie inverter? Cool!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 06, 2014, 06:58:57 PM

Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on January 06, 2014, 03:12:45 PM
Hi A.King,

Steinmetz also mentioned that you want the e and b field to collapse simultaneously to create the largest transient. This is one reason I think semiconductor switching will not work as well. Semiconductors add a latency to both the e and b field instead of collapsing together, like a mechanical switch or spark gap, the fields collapse out of phase with each other depending on the capacitance/inductive value of coil. Tesla was trying to make a fast spark gap to remove as much latency as possible and increase switching speed.

Yes I agree but there are workarounds, and I'm considering a few.
Ie pulse a small electromagnet to operate a reed switch, use a toy motor with magnets attached to operate a reed.
Alternatively wire up a relay imhotep style. Use a transistor switch to pulse a relay.
Because the Tesla igniter patent can be operated at low voltages it might be possible to use transistors to
short the cap and capture the radiant spike elsewhere away from trouble.
In the end I may consider using valve tubes. Possibly also capacitor ignition systems.
It's just a question of looking around and considering the options.
At the moment I am using a home made Tesla switching system as per the igniter patent.
It might be possible to use a simple electric motor and short through the brushes as per the ozone patent.
Also some transistors have built in flywheels to protect them, which creates an undamped wave.
Anyhow, maybe Steinmetz understood Tesla but not many contemporaries understood Tesla as he pointed out several times.
They were all still marveling at AC and Hertz waves, whereas Tesla had moved on by 1898.
We are still trying to catch up.
Sad, isn't it. We should be travelling round the galaxy by now if science had been allowed to progress.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2014, 06:42:16 AM

Somebody needs to keep this thread alive.

Im still playin with the mazzilli, using a clamp meter ::) Im showing 50 in 50 out so not bad but not good enough.
I noticed when I switch connections on one primary the circuit doesnt work, I have been trying to figure out why, I think this is why the two primary's start working together and this lets no bemf reflect into the primary's, since no bemf is entering the primary's its not triggering the mosfet gates through the diodes.

No bemf in the primary means no reactive power, Im going to move the diode from the primary to the secondary and see what goes up in smoke ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 09, 2014, 03:08:27 AM

I'm going back to basics. One switch at a time. 1 circuit change at a time.
Slow and tedious, but the only way.
Got my Tesla switches working at last, so plenty of permutations.
I now work with a cap bank paralleled to the source battery - that way there's
no mistake re ou. You simply swap out the battery from time to time and see what the cap bank is doing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 09, 2014, 03:52:35 AM

Tito:
"

Next time if i'm in good mood, i will share one of my best discovery : "The Power of Two"This is very easy, very practical and absolutely can be done by everyone. There is no switching in this tech. merry ChristmasGod Bless "

Are you in a good mood yet?? :) ? :) ? :) ? :) ? :) ? :) ? :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on January 09, 2014, 05:48:40 PM

Capacitance is superluminal, right? Roughly 1.5c in most environments.
Konstantin Meyl, Eric Dollard, Don Smith, Bob Boyce, and others all make reference to this.

Inductance is slow and lossy. Inductive storage is better but still loses energy quickly.

If we pulse a transformer we get a small period of capacitive coupling followed by conventional inductive coupling. Perhaps this coupling is the kick?

So, is it possible to either harvest or boost through capacitive coupling between the two windings and redirect it for use later in the circuit?

Lets try using a few components to separate the inductive coupling from the capacitive coupling.

Happy hunting,
- Reiyuki

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 11, 2014, 01:23:01 AM

Special message to TITO L ORACION:

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/patent/p-os/p-apply-online/p-apply-online-pdas.htm (http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/patent/p-os/p-apply-online/p-apply-online-pdas.htm)

You can file for a GB patent and your hard work will be protected.
That way many will replicate and the interest from manufacturers will ensure your
just financial reward.
You can apply on line from the Philippines
Don't just let this secret die.
The world needs it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on January 12, 2014, 07:10:53 AM

Tito, I found out that u've actually posted the information I needed about your device, though not in this thread, but in another thread :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on January 13, 2014, 07:29:02 AM

Quote from: Leely on January 12, 2014, 07:10:53 AM
Tito, I found out that u've actually posted the information I needed about your device, though not in this thread, but in another thread :D

But that was the the secret I found out before seeing it in ur thread. But that is not a secret, many people know it already.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 13, 2014, 12:49:48 PM

Quote from: Leely on January 13, 2014, 07:29:02 AM
But that was the the secret I found out before seeing it in ur thread. But that is not a secret, many people know it already.

Could you be more specific?
What is it that you are referring to?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on January 13, 2014, 04:01:27 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 13, 2014, 12:49:48 PM
Could you be more specific?
What is it that you are referring to?

Well, to be frank, only Tito explains his device. Tito cut the explanation into bits so that not everybody will understand his device.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dllabarre on January 13, 2014, 07:55:15 PM

Quote from: Leely on January 13, 2014, 04:01:27 PM
Well, to be frank, only Tito explains his device. Tito cut the explanation into bits so that not everybody will understand his device.

So Leely
You didn't save a copy of all the "bits" that Tito explained?

DonL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on January 14, 2014, 01:17:13 AM

Well, this is not an open experimenting forum where people share their work. It is not a big deal either, whereas, it demands some work from you. Putting the bits has to do with people grasping it. Well, Tito has already told u, there's no reason for me telling you ok

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 14, 2014, 10:32:25 AM

Quote from: Leely on January 14, 2014, 01:17:13 AM
Well, this is not an open experimenting forum where people share their work. It is not a big deal either, whereas, it demands some work from you. Putting the bits has to do with people grasping it. Well, Tito has already told u, there's no reason for me telling you ok

It is the wrong attitude, my friend.
What are the chances of people telling you anything??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dllabarre on January 14, 2014, 10:35:51 AM

... duplicate post (a.king beat me to it)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on January 14, 2014, 10:44:30 AM

Quote from: Leely on January 14, 2014, 01:17:13 AM
Well, this is not an open experimenting forum where people share their work. It is not a big deal either, whereas, it demands some work from you. Putting the bits has to do with people grasping it. Well, Tito has already told u, there's no reason for me telling you ok

Dear Sir.

After 279 pages of community effort your statement makes no sense at all !!

In fact it is only you that confirms the statement !!

Grum.

PS. Don your sentiments were noted !! I feel you should not have retracted them ! G.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on January 14, 2014, 03:53:54 PM

Quote from: Grumage on January 14, 2014, 10:44:30 AM
Dear Sir.

After 279 pages of community effort your statement makes no sense at all !!

In fact it is only you that confirms the statement !!

Grum.

PS. Don your sentiments were noted !! I feel you should not have retracted them ! G.

Well, I don't understand what you're talking, after 279 pages of whatever, so many people have understood it before I came to this forum, and when you ask them, they say you should look at Tito's posts. Well, I have looked at Tito's posts, and I have gotten it, and you're here telling me what? that you're not looking at Tito's posts? that u cannot see it?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on January 14, 2014, 05:01:27 PM

Now what I'm trying to say is this; of all the 279 posts I read,all I could understand is this 'charge and discharge capacitor', of even in my experiments I don't know if I could get output, if there was any at all ;D , I hope I didn't waste your time. Well, if anybody gets it, let me know.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 17, 2014, 12:57:54 PM

Tito, thank you. The best knowledge is knowledge earned.

After studying Titos posts, particularly the earlier ones and not just this thread, I think I have a grasp of some simple things he tried to tell us.

This is one of them:

Const int targetV = 12;

void Amplify(int v){
   int extC1_va = 1;
   int extC2_va = 1;
   int r = 1;

   v = (v + extC1_va + extC2_va) - r;

   if (v >= targetV) {
      Output(v);
      v = 0;
   }
   else {
      Amplify(v);
   }
   return;
}

while TRUE{
   int in = 1;
   Amplify(in);
}


Variable names may be significant, and please excuse any syntax errors.

Time to design, and gather some materials for building.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: UnknownTech on January 18, 2014, 09:45:46 AM

Quote from: Leely on January 14, 2014, 05:01:27 PM
Now what I'm trying to say is this; of all the 279 posts I read,all I could understand is this 'charge and discharge capacitor', of even in my experiments I don't know if I could get output, if there was any at all ;D , I hope I didn't waste your time. Well, if anybody gets it, let me know.

Leely, i am glad that you can get it. but if you can't say it to other, if you can't get your experience to other, at least say which thread is about that? and let other read it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: UnknownTech on January 18, 2014, 10:02:15 AM

@Tito,
most of people want to get the OU device from you, but i want you the method of yours, teaching, working, experiencing and etc. how a computer man that don't known more about electronic, transformer and many other things, Can build a OU device that many professional can't do that.
HOW you can do it?
every one like to get FISH (i need too) but more important things is: i need FISHING, i need method of your work, teach and other.
I known you work HARD, because i saw some of your discovery in 5 AM or 2 AM. its mean when many people were sleeping, you was working.
i am computer programer too and i don't familiar with electronic and many things too.
Please tell me: do you have especial method for learning?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 19, 2014, 04:39:49 AM

Quote from: UnknownTech on January 18, 2014, 10:02:15 AM
@Tito,
most of people want to get the OU device from you, but i want you the method of yours, teaching, working, experiencing and etc. how a computer man that don't known more about electronic, transformer and many other things, Can build a OU device that many professional can't do that.
HOW you can do it?
every one like to get FISH (i need too) but more important things is: i need FISHING, i need method of your work, teach and other.
I known you work HARD, because i saw some of your discovery in 5 AM or 2 AM. its mean when many people were sleeping, you was working.
i am computer programer too and i don't familiar with electronic and many things too.
Please tell me: do you have especial method for learning?

Wow, i'm so impressed with your English :o
its like you were in grade 1 and i'm in Grade 2 ;D lol bwahahahhahahhaha

Its so hard to catch fish if you don't have electric fish catching device. ;D

Yes, i do my experiment at night cause i can't fall asleep when i'm thinking of something. :'(

I do lots of reading, analyzing everything under the sun and experiment. :)

thank you and that's all. ;)

otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 19, 2014, 06:24:34 AM

capacitor inductor self stop watch oscillate stop do not load stop case closed stop
greetings from jungle
tarzan :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 19, 2014, 07:41:14 AM

Quote from: forest on January 19, 2014, 06:24:34 AM
capacitor inductor self stop watch oscillate stop do not load stop case closed stop
greetings from jungle
tarzan :P

Ya, case closed, just crossing >:(

Cheers
:P :P :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 19, 2014, 07:52:18 AM

Quote from: forest on January 19, 2014, 06:24:34 AM
capacitor inductor self stop watch oscillate stop do not load stop case closed stop
greetings from jungle
tarzan :P

Wow, your genious
Cheers
:P :P :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on January 19, 2014, 08:13:04 AM

"Its so hard to catch fish if you don't have electric fish catching device. "

My favorite toy hehehe.... :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 19, 2014, 08:34:54 AM

Tito

What do you think about Barbosa and Leal patenting everything everywhere hmm.... ? ::) I hope you are not from Brasil .... Tito ? >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 19, 2014, 10:45:34 AM

I thought this was a forum about energy amplification and experimental hints.
Not cryptic messaging between people who have figured it out.
Just look at how people are sharing on the Dally thread. Doing real experiments.
We know that a split core has a positive effect when used correctly - for instance.
You learn a lot about people here.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 19, 2014, 11:03:10 AM

a.king21

Yes,I know and it's simple, but your assumption that I have working device is wrong... Details are hard to setup to make it self-oscillate. You must know where to tap power and it's not where you have been taught.

Besides, you are here to make bussiness, aren't you ? Why Tito would give you his hard work for free to see how you become grumpy wealth next energy baron >:(

Look ..why people are patenting device in 198 countries ? To give it to the people ? One local patent is enough to give it to the people and solve particular local problem...here we are totally glued to the usage of coal for everything and to heat houses. I heard we would be forced by EU to stop burning coal and change it to natural gas and electricity which is few times more costly... so a working 10-20kW electric amplification device could solve that problems and eliminate pollution while do not rise poverty. Tariel should follow that path, I don't know why people are so blind... I believe those who don't speak here but solved issue are already selling free energy hidden inside some useful devices....I hope that is not in electric power supplied by power companies - that would be too offensive for people, but who knows ?
Contrary in Brasil I think they do not need to heat homes so frequently, they have to find a better usage , maybe cooking ? Instead they try to force everybody everywhere to pay them, and surely their patents if not voided soon would be bought off by energy cartels...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 19, 2014, 11:27:51 AM

forest: Why is everyone so offended about the word "business".
How can an old lady freezing to death build her own device?
Someone has to build it so someone can buy it for her.
Most of the people in the world can not even change a fuse.
We need to change our attitude.
I have never cheated anyone, nor will I ever, because there are consequences
to every action.
Meanwhile does anyone have any info on this device?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2qSe2YsEQM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2qSe2YsEQM)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Overschuss on January 19, 2014, 06:52:38 PM

Quote[size=78%]capacitor inductor self stop watch oscillate stop do not load stop case closed stop[/size]
[size=78%]
[/size]greetings from jungle
tarzan

Just a few assumptions:

A bi-filar wound Ring-"Spiral" (= Capacitor) with a bi-filar (= important IMO) Collector Coil (TPU-Style) to re-energize the Cap (at least partiallly) and to harvest, of course. And earth grounding (Cap) might be also important.
In other words: Once initiated, a self-oscillating (ideal case) & amplifying LC-Tank !

Right ? - or just a shot into the Blue ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that-prophet on January 19, 2014, 10:13:28 PM

energy amplification is possible in the best way
it is reproducable in the multiplication factor

Free energy has been discovered = (this is a Gift from God)
- By a Born-Again pre-Trib Saint (pre-Trib began early 2012),
- Scriptural Proof we are allowed to know these doors/deadlines (Mat 24:33)

I call this free energy machine a GEM = (God s Electricity Multiplier)

This one_christian_warrior was shown this Miracle by the God of our Holy Bible
- from The God of the Bible = (Father +Jesus +Holy Spirit)

I believe this might be because I asked our Father for something to help others,
- + not for myself = ( though it does bring me great joy )

I have always wondered about how I could help my future Tribulation Saints
- So I asked for some way to help these Tribulation Saints be better
- - Able to survive easier, so they can make it past the Great Tribulation
- When they would have to survive our Canadian winters
- - off the power grid

He first showed me a Vision, of a ten-speed bicycle going up + down a hill
- Where if you drove up the hill in tenth gear, (few turns of the pedals)
- - Then back down in first gear
- - - You would do far less pedaling up the hill
- - - - Then pedal like crazy all of the way down
- - With electricity, more rotations equals more AC electricity (power)

Then, as a confirmation, that this came from Good Forces = Holy Spirit
- + not bad ones (fallen angels)
- - I found it described in Ezekiel 1:16,
- - - Where they were trying to describe the workings of a UFO:
- - - - Or chariot of fire (2Kings 2:11)

When you take a careful look at this technology
- It seems obvious (the more generators you add, the greater the multiplication factor)
- - You put power into a motor with a large pulley
- - - Which you only have to turn the one single turn (very little energy)

Then you take power out of the one to a hundred small pulleys with generators
- That you attach to the same belt
- - Each generator rotates tens to hundreds of times faster
- - - Each rotation gives you electricity (lots of energy)
- - - - It is truly that simple

I believe that it can't help but work
- Then why has this simple method of gaining free energy been hidden for so long
- - It is because Satan + his evil spirits are working hard hiding this
- - - How else do you explain this not being discovered earlier
- - - - Like, as soon as electricity had been discovered
- - - - - This is soooooooooo simple
- - - - - - Why has it been hidden

Well, it is hidden no longer. I have published for all to use freely
- at : http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

+ what I heard on the web
- - that if a person publishes something on the web
- - - and chooses not to patent it, like I have done
- - - - then it opens it up for all to use freely
- - - - - without having to pay any patent fees

I have this, and two other unique ideas given me by God that I have published
- On the web at this website http://beliefstoliveby.yolasite.com/
- - Along with a list of my beliefs
- - - And other things which God has shared with me
- - - - These things I would like to share with the world

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 20, 2014, 04:42:33 AM

good ;)

those damn scientist taking money daily and not giving the proper answers >:(
underdampin oscillations are when this factor is maintained in tank circuit

R^2 << 4L/C

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: UnknownTech on January 20, 2014, 10:15:57 AM

thank you Tito,
You bring two things for everyone: 1th an OU device and and 2nd Titoism = Tito+ism (a special method for learning from zero and build an OU device in difference way), may be you are Tech-HERO ;D

Two simple question:
in close loop circuit, we need a fraction of amplification and transfer it to source like recursive call, OK, How can break this loop and exit from this loop when power reach to certain level?
where can i read about Henderson Cap/Coil ? may be you know it?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wings on January 20, 2014, 10:45:31 AM

Quote from: forest on January 20, 2014, 04:42:33 AM
good ;)

those damn scientist taking money daily and not giving the proper answers >:(
underdampin oscillations are when this factor is maintained in tank circuit

R^2 << 4L/C

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Overschuss on January 21, 2014, 03:27:42 AM

Tito, you're truly a genious :)

Charging of a Coil-Capacitor (e.g. a simple Twin-Cable) in a Electrostatic HV-Field.
Now your statement makes sense to me: "without using any current" - Brilliant !

Thanks a lot, Tito !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 21, 2014, 06:29:26 AM

Quote from: Overschuss on January 21, 2014, 03:27:42 AM
Tito, you're truly a genious :)

Charging of a Coil-Capacitor (e.g. a simple Twin-Cable) in a Electrostatic HV-Field.
Now your statement makes sense to me: "without using any current" - Brilliant !

Thanks a lot, Tito !

Have you replicated it?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 21, 2014, 07:10:43 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6nGiBzGLD8

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 21, 2014, 01:31:41 PM

Everyone!

Really? Is this really still a mystery to you? If it is you must not have studied Tito's posts very well, nor studied the Colorado Spring Notes closely.

Tito told the TRUTH. Everyone who called him a liar and a fake should hang their head in shame and ask his forgiveness.

Answer these next questions correctly and you should know!

Why do you twist wires in circuitry? To avoid what?
What will you get if you place a wound coil close to an operating transformer?
What was Tesla's wireless receiver for?
What will be created around a coil with steadily increasing pulsed DC inputs?
How many sides does a Tesla bifilar pancake coil have?
What can store voltage and amperage and is not a battery?
How can you use an antenna to collect energy?

Tesla Colorado Spring Notes - "Experiences up to present indicate flat spiral form of coil in sections as best suitable."

Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI3GYNLh5Mc

It is so simple. If you still can't get it I don't know what to say.

Now go and build it, and please, share your results with everyone else.

Best regards to all.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on January 21, 2014, 05:29:48 PM

Quote from: Cadman on January 21, 2014, 01:31:41 PM
Everyone!

Really? Is this really still a mystery to you? If it is you must not have studied Tito's posts very well, nor studied the Colorado Spring Notes closely.

Tito told the TRUTH. Everyone who called him a liar and a fake should hang their head in shame and ask his forgiveness.

Answer these next questions correctly and you should know!

Why do you twist wires in circuitry? To avoid what?
What will you get if you place a wound coil close to an operating transformer?
What was Tesla's wireless receiver for?
What will be created around a coil with steadily increasing pulsed DC inputs?
How many sides does a Tesla bifilar pancake coil have?
What can store voltage and amperage and is not a battery?
How can you use an antenna to collect energy?

Tesla Colorado Spring Notes - "Experiences up to present indicate flat spiral form of coil in sections as best suitable."

Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI3GYNLh5Mc

It is so simple. If you still can't get it I don't know what to say.

Now go and build it, and please, share your results with everyone else.

Best regards to all.

You should do the replication and post the results.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Overschuss on January 21, 2014, 07:13:25 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 21, 2014, 06:29:26 AM

Have you replicated it?

No, not yet.
But after some basic experiments i can definitely say, that this principle is working.
It's simple, just build, let's say, 12 Pancake-Coils with bi-filar Windings (= Capacitors).
Connect 6 Coil-Caps in Parallel (= one Set, so you have more Capacitance - and bigger Kicks).

Now place the Pancake-Coils in a (better pulsed or not, dunno) Electrostatic DC HV-Field, then discharge one of the 2 Sets with several short Impulses through a step-down Trafo (with the right Resonance-Freq.).

(You can take, for instance, a Joule-Thief as HV-Source)
Afterwards discharge the other Set. In the meantime the previous Set can re-charge again. And so on...
That's it.

What really annoys me, is, that the guys who have figured this out a long time ago, then fell silent.

@ Cadman

I've cracked this nut in roughly 2 Weeks. Not soo bad, actually, i think.
And Leely is right, please be so kind and post your results.
So that we can work together and improve this Thing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 21, 2014, 09:17:56 PM

Quote from: Cadman on January 21, 2014, 01:31:41 PM

Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI3GYNLh5Mc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI3GYNLh5Mc)

It is so simple. If you still can't get it I don't know what to say.

Now go and build it, and please, share your results with everyone else.

Best regards to all.

I see basically a primary driver coil and a receiver coil. I dont see any impression of OU.

Tinselkoala does the same with 1 loop of wire and can get the receiver like 8 er 9 in away.

Can you please explain why you think that video shows OU. ;)

This one works up to 300ft for $39.95. http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/wec.shtml

Do you believe it? ;) Still doesnt make OU if it does work, does it? ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 21, 2014, 09:33:23 PM

Quote from: Overschuss on January 21, 2014, 07:13:25 PM

No, not yet.
But after some basic experiments i can definitely say, that this principle is working.
It's simple, just build, let's say, 12 Pancake-Coils with bi-filar Windings (= Capacitors).
Connect 6 Coil-Caps in Parallel (= one Set, so you have more Capacitance - and bigger Kicks).

Now place the Pancake-Coils in a (better pulsed or not, dunno) Electrostatic DC HV-Field, then discharge one of the 2 Sets with several short Impulses through a step-down Trafo (with the right Resonance-Freq.).

(You can take, for instance, a Joule-Thief as HV-Source)
Afterwards discharge the other Set. In the meantime the previous Set can re-charge again. And so on...
That's it.

What really annoys me, is, that the guys who have figured this out a long time ago, then fell silent.

@ Cadman

I've cracked this nut in roughly 2 Weeks. Not soo bad, actually, i think.
And Leely is right, please be so kind and post your results.
So that we can work together and improve this Thing.

Well, what can i say, now i believe you absorb one technique. :)
when you said this statement "[size=78%]In the meantime the previous Set can re-charge again.[/size][size=78%]"[/size] ;)

Sorry buddy, i fell silent because i felt so disappointed when i see someone discover good things and make tongue to me like this :P
That's why i decided not to share anymore and i just cross here just to tell my reason. :)

Now its up to you if you will post all you can discover and they make tongue to you then you will feel what i felt. :)

Any way congratulation to whatever you've got.
but here is the best tip that you should know: Still the antenna style technique is the best method or the moray style cause it can last up to 30 or more years of service to us. ;) 8)

so long fell, be safe ;)
God bless. :)

toits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 22, 2014, 03:07:51 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 21, 2014, 09:33:23 PM

Well, what can i say, now i believe you absorb one technique. :)
when you said this statement "[size=78%]In the meantime the previous Set can re-charge again.[/size][size=78%]"[/size] ;)

Sorry buddy, i fell silent because i felt so disappointed when i see someone discover good things and make tongue to me like this :P
That's why i decided not to share anymore and i just cross here just to tell my reason. :)

Now its up to you if you will post all you can discover and they make tongue to you then you will feel what i felt. :)

Any way congratulation to whatever you've got.
but here is the best tip that you should know: Still the antenna style technique is the best method or the moray style cause it can last up to 30 or more years of service to us. ;) 8)

so long fell, be safe ;)
God bless. :)

toits ;D

Tito: There are always some people who are behaving badly on these forums. Please don't take revenge on the serious good people.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 22, 2014, 05:18:18 AM

Tito, I have a question if you would like to comment.

I am looking at the Kunel patent, and am wondering if you use his
techniques in any of your working builds?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 22, 2014, 06:59:08 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 22, 2014, 05:18:18 AM
Tito, I have a question if you would like to comment.

I am looking at the Kunel patent, and am wondering if you use his
techniques in any of your working builds?

No, i don't use it.

Cause as much as possible an ideal free energy device is must be almost made of wires only, that is if you want durability.

Well, if you want your device to last at least 10 years, there are lots of electronic components there. and that's not bad at all. :D just do it durable and that is the important thing. ;)

@all

do you know why transistor switching is no match with using only ordinary simple switching?
8) well, you have to find it out. I actually showed this already one time. ;)

Remember this always: The tesla's magnifying transmitter is actually the real durable solution of tesla in free energy, he was suppressed in this technology cause the businessman is having difficulty how to put his electric meter to every house ;D So the secret really lies in the receiver device. and that was already done by moray and tesla.

Nowadays we are blessed with signals anywhere, so no need for the magnifying transmitter of tesla, and all we have to do is the receiver. :)

Tesla is not actually transmitting electricity, and that is not his main purpose, and his purpose is to make a continuous disturbance in the air to make the receiver react.

in that sense the receiver does not need anymore the controller patent of tesla, it is fully auto matic and all we need to do is just amplify. and this is the sense of my thread
ENERGY AMPLIFICATION ;)

well, somebody of our buddy here got it already, i just don't know how he apply it in a circuit. :)
so exciting. ;D

until next cool time ;D
mabalos

otiots ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 22, 2014, 09:05:19 AM

@Leely
I will do that in time. It's 3 below zero in my garage and this is still in the design stage for me. Others on this thread already have the parts needed to prove the concept. Are you reading this Dave45? Hint hint.
Don't wait on me, that will only slow you down.

@ Magluvin
The video does not show OU, it shows part of the method. How many sides does a bifilar pancake coil have? Do you think only one receiver coil can be affected by the pulsed coil's magnetic field? 8)

@Overschuss
All it took was to stand back and see the forest in spite of the trees, eh?
Yes please, let's all start building and work together on this. This is just the beginning.

@all
The method in a nut shell:

Arrange Tesla bifilar pancake coils in a stack of 3 or more, with the center coil as the driver coil.

Any DC voltage source to start with.

Fill a cap.

Pulse from the cap (very fast make/breaks) to the driver coil, only depleting the cap a little bit.

Collect output from the rest of the coils in the stack (the collector coils) and combine. Use caps if needed.

If needed, feed combined output to another stack for further amplification.

Repeat until sufficient volts/amps obtained to split part of the collector coils off to feed energy back to the first cap through a voltage regulator to maintain and limit the source. (No magic smoke or lightning strikes please).

The rest of the collector coils can be the output or fed to more coil stacks for further amplification.

Once the cycle has gained enough momentum, disconnect the DC voltage source and run it all from the first cap.

One pulse → kick → bigger kick → even bigger kicks – recycle some to source and the rest is free.

One pulse amplified through multiple stages.

This may not be the best way and I'm sure there are more ways to accomplish this. But I firmly believe this is one method that will work.

@ Tito
I feel I owe you a debt of gratitude. Thank you sir.

Best regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on January 22, 2014, 12:49:29 PM

Quote from: Cadman on January 22, 2014, 09:05:19 AM

@all
The method in a nut shell:

Arrange Tesla bifilar pancake coils in a stack of 3 or more, with the center coil as the driver coil.

Any DC voltage source to start with.

Fill a cap.

Pulse from the cap (very fast make/breaks) to the driver coil, only depleting the cap a little bit.

Collect output from the rest of the coils in the stack (the collector coils) and combine. Use caps if needed.

If needed, feed combined output to another stack for further amplification.

Repeat until sufficient volts/amps obtained to split part of the collector coils off to feed energy back to the first cap through a voltage regulator to maintain and limit the source. (No magic smoke or lightning strikes please).

The rest of the collector coils can be the output or fed to more coil stacks for further amplification.

Once the cycle has gained enough momentum, disconnect the DC voltage source and run it all from the first cap.

One pulse → kick → bigger kick → even bigger kicks – recycle some to source and the rest is free.

One pulse amplified through multiple stages.

This may not be the best way and I'm sure there are more ways to accomplish this. But I firmly believe this is one method that will work.

@ Tito
I feel I owe you a debt of gratitude. Thank you sir.

Best regards

good job Cadman, keep us posted.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 22, 2014, 05:45:10 PM

@Cadman
well, whatever i'ved done is for my soul and my family and for the Lord JESUS that
strengthens me everyday. :)
i am happy for you buddy and i also thank you for your kind words. :)

@all
To everyone that i made them hurt, I'M SORRY :'( :'( :'( :( :( :(
that maybe because of our differences why it happen.

its now only depends in our design if our device will endure, everything is revealed, i saw it in
different threads here just read and read and pick up the best, imagination is the limit. :)

I guess there's nothing more for me to say since everything is complete well said in different threads.

Ladies and Gentlemen
We are all going to die, everyone should know the real open hidden secret is to know JESUS
nothing can above that information, you should read the BIBLE.
Free energy is just applicable here on earth ok. :)

AND HERE IS THE REAL SECRET OF THE SALVATION:
First : you must have FAITH in JESUS
Second : is you have to fight sin, avoid doing it.
Third : and since we are just humans and we can't really win many times from sin then WE
SHOULD ALWAYS ASK FOR FORGIVENESS TO JESUS
REMEMBER THIS: JESUS LOVES YOU AND HE WILL FORGIVE YOU. Well if you do the sin intentionally,
its really difficult to ask for another forgiveness cause we are ashame but He will
still forgive us if we are serious and HE knows our heart and thinking. :)

That all there is to it.

I HOPE EVERYONE CAN CRACKED THIS OPEN HIDDEN SECRET AS SOON AS POSSIBLE :)

HAPPY YEAR EVERYONE ;)
TAKE CARE AND GOD BLESS :)

TITO L. ORACION :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on January 22, 2014, 06:08:24 PM

Amen!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 22, 2014, 07:17:35 PM

Well said Tito
Now we know your heart
God Bless my friend
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 22, 2014, 07:43:04 PM

Thanks for the tips Cadman and I will work on it Iv just been so busy with work havent had time to do anything, I also want to play with Jacks transformer just havent had the time, work and kids have been keeping me busy lately.
I raised my kids and thought I would spend my later years experimenting full time but now Im raising three grandchildren :) :) :) Looks like the Lord Jesus has work for me to do still yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjsWU-Fi3wI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjsWU-Fi3wI)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Overschuss on January 22, 2014, 09:00:53 PM

@ Tito

Very well said - And you are absolutely right !
And again, thanks a lot for all your Tips !
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Quote from: Cadman on January 22, 2014, 09:05:19 AM
@Overschuss
All it took was to stand back and see the forest in spite of the trees, eh?
Yes please, let's all start building and work together on this. This is just the beginning.

@ Cadman

This Method sounds good to me, that could indeed work. And without HV. :)

And now imagine 2 of this Sets.

The output of one into the input of another Set and vice versa (but don't forget the Zener-Diodes to limit the [hopefully] increasing Voltage). Without any switching, need just a start Kick ! So easy to test...

"The Power of Two" - wasn't that a Hint from Tito ?

Thanks for sharing with us, Cadman. Please keep in touch and stay safe.[/font][/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on January 23, 2014, 12:28:42 AM

Well, though cadman has posted somethings here, I still believe that nobody is tied from experimenting, that's all I know.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: cicalac on January 23, 2014, 03:03:58 AM

Good day all!
https://keychests.com/?ck=azmcxjlyeqzs (https://keychests.com/?ck=azmcxjlyeqzs)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on January 23, 2014, 02:02:24 PM

Tito, from what u said, you said we should dump capacitor into transformer

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 23, 2014, 02:16:21 PM

Random thought. If, as I have read, the earth is a source of free electrons, has anyone ever thought to put a diode in the earth ground wire? Thinking about a battery circuit here.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on January 23, 2014, 02:50:15 PM

Quote from: Cadman on January 23, 2014, 02:16:21 PM
Random thought. If, as I have read, the earth is a source of free electrons, has anyone ever thought to put a diode in the earth ground wire? Thinking about a battery circuit here.

Avremenko did !! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wings on January 23, 2014, 03:36:10 PM

Quote from: Cadman on January 23, 2014, 02:16:21 PM
Random thought. If, as I have read, the earth is a source of free electrons, has anyone ever thought to put a diode in the earth ground wire? Thinking about a battery circuit here.

http://www.mrec.org/pubs/EarthCurrents_InformationalPage_05.pdf (http://www.mrec.org/pubs/EarthCurrents_InformationalPage_05.pdf)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birkeland_current (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birkeland_current)
http://www.mrec.org/pubs/Direct%20and%20Alternating%20Earth%20Currents.pdf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 23, 2014, 03:46:31 PM

Quote from: Cadman on January 23, 2014, 02:16:21 PM
Random thought. If, as I have read, the earth is a source of free electrons, has anyone ever thought to put a diode in the earth ground wire? Thinking about a battery circuit here.

Done it loads of times.
The only way is through elevation into ground. (Tesla) (Plauston)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on January 23, 2014, 03:54:52 PM

Quote from: Cadman on January 23, 2014, 02:16:21 PM
Random thought. If, as I have read, the earth is a source of free electrons, has anyone ever thought to put a diode in the earth ground wire? Thinking about a battery circuit here.

Aaron Murakami,

"A good way to find a good spot to put a rod is to get a multimeter and put it on DC volts. I had some long wires and alligator clips attached to the ends of the probes and the other end I had 3 foot rods...one steel and one copper. I would put one rod in the ground...doesnt' matter what rod you use for what charge because you're just looking for the largest potential difference you can get. One rod in ground...deep, then take the other rod and walk around with it sticking it in different spots. Wherever you get the highest reading, leave the second rod there.

Then mark where the first rod is, take it out and see if you can find a higher reading with it somewhere else, if not, put it back. If you get a higher reading, you can take the other rod and move it around and go back and forth. You're lucky if you can get 2 volts. I found 4 one time in my Qigong Master friend Rodger's backyard.

Anyway, this will show you some good spots either plus or negative.

For the TRV discovered rod method, it takes one rod...not for grounding purposes but to draw the aether from the ground.

EARTH -----> ROD -----> DIODE -----> POSITIVE ON CHARGING BATTERY

That's it! The TRV session was for logical next step enhancements to the overall SG circuits and with research combined with the data, the above is what it revealed. The line on the diode should be on the side of the battery so the positive voltage potential moves from Earth TOWARDS the charging battery positive terminal.

Please have a look at John Bedini's Earth Rod below:

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 23, 2014, 11:48:16 PM

Quote from: UnknownTech on January 20, 2014, 10:15:57 AM
thank you Tito,
You bring two things for everyone: 1th an OU device and and 2nd Titoism = Tito+ism (a special method for learning from zero and build an OU device in difference way), may be you are Tech-HERO ;D

Two simple question:
in close loop circuit, we need a fraction of amplification and transfer it to source like recursive call, OK, How can break this loop and exit from this loop when power reach to certain level?
where can i read about Henderson Cap/Coil ? may be you know it?

Try to find henderson or hendershot here ??? :-\ .: http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/
Try to read tesla's patent about his controller :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 24, 2014, 03:43:44 AM

Question for Tito:

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 22, 2014, 06:59:08 AM[/font]
Remember this always: The tesla's magnifying transmitter is actually the real durable solution of tesla in free energy, he was suppressed in this technology cause the businessman is having difficulty how to put his electric meter to every house ;D So the secret really lies in the receiver device. and that was already done by moray and tesla.Nowadays we are blessed with signals anywhere, so no need for the magnifying transmitter of tesla, and all we have to do is the receiver. :)

[/font]

Do your devices all have a ground wire?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on January 24, 2014, 09:50:01 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 16, 2009, 10:47:05 PM
ARE YOU ONLY USING 2-3 COILS? : its up to your design, the manyer the coil, the bigger capacity you can
produced ok.

HOW ARE THEY WOUND? : opcourse bifillar is still the best plus the magic coil that makes the big kick just include it
in the bifillar to fill the collector fully charge in energy ok.

HOW ARE YOU DRIVING IT?: well, just a matter of on and off ok. thats how simple it is.

i think you can ask sir otto for parts and dimensions ok. its not a big deal in my device ok its just so very simple
device.

Thank you sir :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wings on January 24, 2014, 09:58:44 AM

Quote from: Cadman on January 23, 2014, 02:16:21 PM
Random thought. If, as I have read, the earth is a source of free electrons, has anyone ever thought to put a diode in the earth ground wire? Thinking about a battery circuit here.

http://books.google.ch/books/about/Atmospheric_Fields_Tesla_s_Receivers_and.html?id=KMEsGwAACAAJ&redir_esc=y (http://books.google.ch/books/about/Atmospheric_Fields_Tesla_s_Receivers_and.html?id=KMEsGwAACAAJ&redir_esc=y)
with ?
http://www.tfcbooks.com/images/articles/tws05-2.gif (http://www.tfcbooks.com/images/articles/tws05-2.gif)

http://www.tfcbooks.com/articles/tws5.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/articles/tws5.htm)

http://www.teslaradio.com/images/regenerative_receiver.gif

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on January 24, 2014, 10:05:57 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2009, 01:34:34 AM
Hi goat good day

what i'm saying is, as i am studying tesla's different kinds of patent, i concentrated most in this patents:
a) U.S. Patent 0,568,178 -
b) U.S. Patent 0,568,179 -
c) U.S. Patent 0,568,180 -
d) U.S. Patent 0,577,670 -

i've read also the teslas interview what forest's is posting in this subject

and i come up in a very simple solution when i combine bearden and bedini's technology.

sorry buddy i cannot give my circuit yet but i'm telling you the truth. :(

the only thing that i did not give is the arrangement of the circuit. ok its an rlc.

DO YOU KNOW THAT USING THIS METHOD CAN GENERATE KLWATT FROM A 1.5 VOLTS!
ofcource sub-staging technique must be used ok. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 24, 2014, 12:18:20 PM

Now the creative juices are starting to flow!

Ha, and silly me thought I had an original idea about that diode in the ground wire :) Thanks for all the links guys!

Let me tell you all a true story that may be relevant here. Before I even knew that forums such as this one existed I built a free energy device and discovered free electricity. Entirely by accident. True, no BS.

Years ago, in the springtime, I was having trouble with my TV reception and went to check the antenna connections.

Now I live out in the country and my antenna is one of those old aluminum ones from Radio Shack that looks like two feathers of an arrow about 6 feet long, and it's mounted on top of a 20 foot iron pipe, which in turn is attached to an old 12 inch diameter cast iron pulley, and this pulley is buried a few inches into the ground. An ordinary coax cable runs from the antenna through a couple of stand offs, then into the house at about 3 feet off the ground. That coax is too long and about a dozen feet of it is coiled up on the floor behind the TV stand then connected to a splitter to run to a couple of other rooms. Now the pipe and pulley was built by an ancestor and it is painted with several layers, and that paint is surely lead based. There is also a good chance the pipe is a galvanized black iron water pipe.

So I went to check the connection between the coax and the antenna, maybe the upper connection was broken. Not wishing to get up that high to the antenna I decided to check continuity at the living room end of the coax. After unplugging the TV and disconnecting the antenna coax from the splitter I carelessly touched the outer and inner points of the coax with my fingers end and received a very surprising shock! It was similar to touching a 9 volt battery to your tongue. At first I thought I had the wrong coax and that a TV from the bedroom must be feeding current. Nope. It was definitely the one from the outside antenna. My meter measured 51 volts DC coming off the antenna coax! What the heck?? I checked that current several times over a few days and it was always there right at 50 volts. The antenna is a good 50 feet from the power lines and no other lines are in the area. Months later, in dry weather, and after digital TV was mandated by the government, there was no current there.

So my shocking experience set me on a search for a way to use this free energy and here I am. A couple of the first things I learned that fit my situation was Tesla's statement regarding the potential that exists between the ground and higher elevations. Then I was surprised to read that Tesla invented the coax cable and that it was a capacitor. Also that electrical devices emit RF and magnetic fields, and we are bathed in microwaves no matter where we are.

So you see, I already know there is in fact such a thing as free energy, and that it had been discovered long ago.

So how is this story relevant? Free energy is already out there, in more than one form, and my antenna by itself furnished 50 volts. All we have to do is collect it, channel it into our device and amplify it. We might even want collect what our device radiates and recycle it, eh?

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 25, 2014, 06:33:25 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 24, 2014, 03:43:44 AM
Question for Tito:

Do your devices all have a ground wire?

No. Why? what is that question for buddy? :-\

of course it always depends on the design you are doing.
Like for example the receiver can use earth ground or use the negative pole of the battery to use as ground or we can use diode as a way out to air as ground. there are lots of option actually. 8)

sorry i'll rest for awhile cannot answer anymore. :)

otits :-*
[size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 25, 2014, 06:57:28 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 25, 2014, 06:33:25 AM

No. Why? what is that question for buddy? :-\

of course it always depends on the design you are doing.
Like for example the receiver can use earth ground or use the negative pole of the battery to use as ground or we can use diode as a way out to air as ground. there are lots of option actually. 8)

sorry i'll rest for awhile cannot answer anymore. :)

otits :-*
[size=78%] [/size]

Well, it was because you mentioned Tesla's receiver, which has a ground attached.
Thanks for the tips.
These are very much appreciated by us.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 25, 2014, 10:42:45 AM

Just for clarity,

Tesla's wireless receiver, is this the one we are referring to?

Tesla patent 645576

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on January 25, 2014, 10:54:05 AM

Hello Tito Sir,

Are you going to delete your posts or not, as i am reading your old posts, and i am v v very much close to your secrets, then i will tongue you :P (just joking sir). You are my much favorite teacher sir, i love your way of teaching, and much respecting you.

My questions, are you still using battery as a source for your device?

2nd can we make an other kick on a kick? double kick on single input?

Is your 1st schematic is still valid or workable or you have an other better method? (attached)

Regards,
D.J

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on January 25, 2014, 01:34:07 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 31, 2010, 09:02:31 PM
It seems that forest gave it everything, i think no need for me to show my movie, cause that is the one of the main secret of my ingredient.

Remember the tip i gave you using this technique making only one arm is moving. mags had a success on it ok.

Always think for efficiency ok.

Discharge a cap on a very thick wire coiled in a bifillar form is very efficient making a very powerful magnetic field ok.

Imagination is the limit. no one can limit us from using a lot of caps, coils, batteries ok.

Series and parallel technique in input and output can do it more powerful.

This is for the world ladies and gentlemen. i love you all brother.

Here is what i notice here in this site, once they discover something good then they will stop digging to that so others will stop dig on that also they will divert us to other topic. SHAME ON YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Base all to Tesla, still its the superior and original and working.
Study and experiment well Take care and goodluck !!! and congratulation ;D

If i will tell everything then no more excitement, let it be discover by yourself ok.
I will just keep, at least i'm telling you the rolling stone ice ok. ;D

Bye. i have to escape and leave you now. ;D

I'll just return and answer when i want ok ;D

If anyone want to see and contact me, sorry i'm not available. ;D

ALL FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND!!!
Noicaro L. Otit a.k.a. Teetsla ;D From Philippines;D

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 26, 2014, 04:36:06 AM

Tito: You are using Tesla controller switching which I am also experimenting with.
But this guy seems to have got it into solid state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73ERCA65FB0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73ERCA65FB0)[/font]

Can you also do this?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on January 26, 2014, 05:09:46 AM

Looks like there's a lipo battery underneat the pcb, and it's running down, the 11.8 digital display going to 11.7 ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on January 26, 2014, 06:41:13 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 26, 2014, 04:36:06 AM
Tito: You are using Tesla controller switching which I am also experimenting with.
But this guy seems to have got it into solid state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73ERCA65FB0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73ERCA65FB0)[/font]

Can you also do this?

Hi, it look like this (I'm doing some research on it in EVGRAY).

http://www.overunity.com/3068/the-return-of-the-hungarian-free-energy-from-wave-fields/#.UuTwmfs1jQx (http://www.overunity.com/3068/the-return-of-the-hungarian-free-energy-from-wave-fields/#.UuTwmfs1jQx)

http://ua-hho.do.am/publ/idei_po_ehnergii/generator_ehnergii_na_nelinejnoj_induktivnosti/2-1-0-185 (http://ua-hho.do.am/publ/idei_po_ehnergii/generator_ehnergii_na_nelinejnoj_induktivnosti/2-1-0-185)
(Use Google Translation)

http://izob.narod.ru/ (http://izob.narod.ru/) Andrey Melnichenko (not the Billionaire, the inventor about this apparatus).

http://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Pages&op=page&pid=103 (http://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Pages&op=page&pid=103) (same: use google for translation)

Basiclly, EM waves are OU when they have same polarization, same amplitude, same frequency and same phase, can be apparently in air, wave guide, coax, but also core...
The first link provide a scientific paper from Janos Vajda prove OU with Math.

In short two waves merging each other will add their amplitude but will square up in energy.
Thus two source will give a COP 2 instantly...

The other link are ferrite version of this effect...

Related to your link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoGfSDbnwbk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoGfSDbnwbk)
SRM.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on January 26, 2014, 06:46:40 PM

I remember one of my experiments I thought it was ou. I used an oscillator to charge a capacitor and discharged the capacitor into a transformer, when I connected earth to one side of the capacitor, the bulb at the end of the transformer became brighter, though I connected another capacitor to it. Let me say, it has some ou inside.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 27, 2014, 09:56:47 AM

QuoteBasiclly, EM waves are OU when they have same polarization, same amplitude, same frequency and same phase

So, if all coils in a device are air core bifilar pancake type, will using one driver coil to inductively pulse two identical collector coils evenly spaced on opposite sides of the driver coil satisfy these requirements in the collector coils?

The two collector coils will have the same polarization, same amplitude, same frequency and same phase, since they receive identical input from the one driver coil?

It seems logical.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on January 27, 2014, 10:48:44 AM

It's not that simple, this test was about with mainly EM Waves (in waves guide) it was done by Janos Vajda an Hungarian scientist with microwaves.
He noticed (and make a paper that I put in the DDL section) that OU is done with the condition posted above when wave are Coherent.
A two source antenna will not make the effect why ? Because of interference, some wave will add up and at other point they will destroy themselves, thus in average no energy gain will be detected.
But when waves are coherent they add up and the result energy will square up.
In math it will be modeled like that:

Input before merging waves (x^2+x^2) = Ein
Output when two waves are combined (x+x)^2 = Eout
replace x by 2 in first Eq you get 8 but in second Eq you get 16 hence COP 2 (16/8) = 2.

The link I've posted above is an attempt to replicate this effect with coil and magnetic waves...
Any microwave or RF engineer could replicate this...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 27, 2014, 11:37:21 AM

Melnychenko has a patent which does exactly that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 27, 2014, 05:54:57 PM

Tito: How close are we with this trifilar schematic?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on January 28, 2014, 12:51:24 AM

a.king21 my most respect to you man.

As I have back read this forum, for i have been out for a long time. You are the closes to the top of this path.You have already the ideas needed to build such a device. The only thing that people here miss is the return of the power to the source. Everything you need is already been given by Tesla to us.

The thing that people always miss out is the past people don't used mostly the so called PARALLEL CIRCUITS, The free energy scientist have always used the so called SERIES CIRCUITS.

You have already seen all the most needed to make a free energy device, you are the person that always point out the correct facts here. That thing is already on your head but still dont realize what does it do on such system.

@Tito musta brother ;D ;D

Stupify

Quote from: a.king21 on January 27, 2014, 05:54:57 PM
Tito: How close are we with this trifilar schematic?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on January 28, 2014, 03:41:15 AM

Hello all, good day,

As we all know Magnetism and Voltages are dual faces of a coin.

A high current produced a high magnetic field around a wire, and a high voltage produces a high electrostatic field around it.

As we can path or harvest magnetic field in soft iron core or ferrite, for our use. Just like that we
can use some materials to harvest or collect free electrons around a high voltage electrostatic field.

Just like that electricity is of dual nature, one is in shape of hot electricity as ordinary we use in our homes, which is pure result of magnetic induction.

Other face is cold electricity(tesla electricity) which if of course of cold in nature it will not burn or harm you. This electricity is the pure result of high voltage, and this is what we should look for.

Now the question is how we convert that kind of cold electricity to our ordinary hot electricity?

i hope tito never mind to answer for us?

Regards,
D.J

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on January 28, 2014, 06:06:24 AM

Tito, how is your secondary coil wound?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on January 28, 2014, 09:33:35 AM

New link from onielsen2000 in EvGray
http://realstrannik.ru/forum/39-kapanadze/134467-qgenerator-energii-na-nelinejnoj-induktivnostiq.html?start=450 (http://realstrannik.ru/forum/39-kapanadze/134467-qgenerator-energii-na-nelinejnoj-induktivnostiq.html?start=450)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 28, 2014, 10:08:32 AM

QuoteThe only thing that people here miss is the return of the power to the source. Everything you need is already been given by Tesla to us.

I know of 3 ways to help keep the source charged for free.

1. Return the energy from the collapsing field of coil(s)
2. Collect stray magnetic field energy from your device coil(s)
3. Collect RF energy from the environment

Of course if you manage to produce a lot of power with your device you could keep the source charged with a transformer and/or converter connected to the output.

Edit:
Oh, I almost forgot... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVs_7uCbkbQ
Pay attention to the setup shown at 0:22
Large self inductance, small self inductance.

Can anyone add some more ways to the list?

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on January 28, 2014, 10:59:13 AM

Okay brother. I will give u my best answer for those question you have posted.

As for Tesla and the guys who actually replicated and understand the SIMPLE principle of this so called Tesla Transformer..I give u my answer Voltage and Magnetism are the same it depends on how u apply and produce that thing.

8)A high current produced a high magnetic field around a wire 8) A high magnetic field around a wire produce a high current-if you understand this simple words you will be amaze. We only need voltage charge in a capacitor=electrostatic container to create A HIGH Magnetic Field- how to do it? Simply successively discharge a capacitor to a wire with a very low resistance.

How to convert such cold Electricity has already been answered so many times. The so called secret here is the fast successive discharge of capacitor into a transformer. The more coil you induce with that successive discharge the more energy you can recover.The only big problem you guys take for granted is on the RECOVERY/Looping system. All you need is already on your mind/nose, another problem is you guys are like a scientist that Tesla describe on his quote.

Tesla wanted you guys to build and test it for yourself that what he is been telling to us is all TRUE 8)

;D ;D Meow

Quote from: DilJalaay on January 28, 2014, 03:41:15 AM
Hello all, Wasssssup,

As we all know Magnetism and Voltages are dual faces of a coin.

A high current produced a high magnetic field around a wire, and a high voltage produces a high electrostatic field around it.

As we can path or harvest magnetic field in soft iron core or ferrite, for our use. Just like that we
can use some materials to harvest or collect free electrons around a high voltage electrostatic field.

Now the question is how we convert that kind of cold electricity to our ordinary hot electricity?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 28, 2014, 04:39:27 PM

Not so long ago surfaced a video of 105W self-running device based on concept presented by a.king21. I have a feling it is based on parametric resonance which you can add to the list...
Imho if energy in coil is Li^2/2 and you change L down then I^2 must also change so it rise to fullfil energy conservation law, so if you put that into a step-up DC-DC converter then magically you have rised current, because there is no assumption anywhere that such coil has to be connected to power source, that's the IMPORTANT FACTOR. So as you see if you lower inductance of coil in DC-DC step up converter exactly when coil is disconnected from source current should rise without taking it from source.... theoretically... It's a reverse way of already know and proved concept of changing shape of charged capacitor (capacitance) which rise voltage and power stored inside... (because energy law and charge law have to be fullfiled), because energy is ^2 while power is charge times pressure (voltage). I may be wrong here because it was so badly messed up so it's almost magic mantra that energy and power has to be conserved but it's not truth...

Such setup is simple and straigthforward. Guys, start building now ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on January 29, 2014, 01:46:10 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 31, 2013, 03:51:35 AM
To arrange the electron and make every single electron fall in line from everywhere, then we need to make a continous and actively discharging small energy in the vicinity and fool that arranged large amount of electron into other door for a very useful and controlled electricity okay?

We don't actually need to produce large amount of input to create large amount of energy but what we need is to control it wisely and effectively through small electronic components.

yin and yang techniques.

The all energy we need is already there, all we need to do is to activate them wisely. 8)

Triode actually is a good controller of large amount of electricity using a very small energy controller. hmmmmm.

Waoo he is talking about Gray tube. hmmm how easy it is.

Its really a buried Treasure.
Thank you sir tito.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: GT899 on January 29, 2014, 06:20:02 PM

Hi everyone.
I have built 3 pancake bifilar coils so far and a rotary switch. The rotary switch consists of a motor with an upright shaft upon which is fixed a flywheel of 10 cm diameter. I have fixed 2 copper triangle contact plates on opposite sides of the flywheel both soldered to the shaft so they are electrically connected. Touching each plate is a wire so when the flywheel spins it is half of the time contacting the plates and creating the connection from the capacitor to the pancake coil.
I am not sure what the volt rating of the motor is exactly but it is a toy motor and operates anywhere from 1 to 5 volts and probablly higher. It is a high rpm toy motor.
I gave it a quick try by stacking 3 pancake coils together with the driver coil in the middle and first tried to discharge 12 volts and I got nothing on the other end. I then disconnected and connected it by hand quickly a few times and I got about 0.10 volts at most.

After this I gave it a try with my rotary switch. Once the motor flywheel was spinning quite fast I brought the capacitor positive anode wire and the pancake coil anode wire into contact with the flywheel and a lot of sparks appeared and I instantly got a rating of 2 volts from the 2 collector coils in parallel. So that was rather satisfying.
I used 4 12v 10,000 uf capacitors connected in parallel and being charged by a 12v 5AH PSU

Unfortunately the copper plates got a lot of corrosion and black scratches from the fast make break discharging, even the capacitor wire looked burnt black! Any ideas for a better mechanical switch?
I like the idea of a rotary switch using sparks without any contact brushes but I suppose you then need to use high voltage and I would much prefer to use 12 volts.

I plan to make a total of 9 pancake coils and will give another update soon once there all built.
This is the pancake coil I built with the same diameter and windings: http://jnaudin.free.fr/gegene/gegene02en.htm

Thanks Tito and to everyone for all that you have shared.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on January 30, 2014, 08:19:35 AM

Quote from: stupify12 on January 28, 2014, 10:59:13 AM
Okay brother. I will give u my best answer for those question you have posted.

As for Tesla and the guys who actually replicated and understand the SIMPLE principle of this so called Tesla Transformer..I give u my answer Voltage and Magnetism are the same it depends on how u apply and produce that thing.

8)A high current produced a high magnetic field around a wire 8) A high magnetic field around a wire produce a high current-if you understand this simple words you will be amaze. We only need voltage charge in a capacitor=electrostatic container to create A HIGH Magnetic Field- how to do it? Simply successively discharge a capacitor to a wire with a very low resistance.

How to convert such cold Electricity has already been answered so many times. The so called secret here is the fast successive discharge of capacitor into a transformer. The more coil you induce with that successive discharge the more energy you can recover.The only big problem you guys take for granted is on the RECOVERY/Looping system. All you need is already on your mind/nose, another problem is you guys are like a scientist that Tesla describe on his quote.

Tesla wanted you guys to build and test it for yourself that what he is been telling to us is all TRUE 8)

;D ;D Meow

Tesla this Tesla that, Tesla wanted us to do this and that.

Show me where Tesla claimed free energy anywhere other than directly from the environment ! Hydro, radiant energy receiver ect.

What exactly do you mean by the words you wrote below ? What has he been telling us that is true exactly ?

QuoteTesla wanted you guys to build and test it for yourself that what he is been telling to us is all TRUE 8)

What do you mean exactly Cold electricity ? Where does the energy come from to charge the capacitor ? They do not charge themselves.

Tesla powered his devices with real power. Unless he was collecting energy with a receiver. All normal stuff. No magic performance of things powered by no input power.

QuoteHow to convert such cold Electricity has already been answered so many times. The so called secret here is the fast successive discharge of capacitor into a transformer. The more coil you induce with that successive discharge the more energy you can recover.The only big problem you guys take for granted is on the RECOVERY/Looping system. All you need is already on your mind/nose, another problem is you guys are like a scientist that Tesla describe on his quote.

Please show us some actual demonstrations or show us quotes from Tesla so the misunderstandings can be resolved.

So far I do not detect any party or hoopla and "we found the free energy forever source", so I don't get it, do you have OU or something ?

Cheers

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 30, 2014, 08:49:42 AM

@GT899

I am pressed for time, will try to expand on this later, ok?

There are several reasons why you have destructive effects. First of all, read up on RLC circuits. Your driver coil has it's own resonant frequency, to pulse it you need to time the pulse to when the voltage wave in the coil is at or near zero. Also you must do something with the energy from the collapsing field of that coil, do no let it collide with your pulse. Your driver coil is almost certainly a coil with low self inductance and your pulse is too long. Basically you are short circuiting your device and holding the short long enough for destructive effects to manifest.

Timing is critical.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: GT899 on January 30, 2014, 02:40:12 PM

Hi I have done a bit more testing today.
You mention doing something with the energy from the collapsing field of the driver coil so I wired up a diode back to the capacitor so perhaps as to feed energy back into the capacitor from the collapsing field. It certainly helped as it continued to work for more than a minute after turning the PSU off where as before it would stop rather quickly.
I also connected a 12v lamp there before I tried out the diode and it did not affect the output of the collector coils.

I made another pancake coil today so am using 3 collector coils. At best there very crude so efficiency is not exactly perfect at all but surely with enough collector coils and as mentioned before feeding perhaps more driver coils I presume this would be sufficient?

I wired up 20 bright white leds in parallel to the output collector coils and they light them up at full brightness but the output is pulsed with the mechanical switch sparks. So there flickering very fast almost like strobe lights at times.

When the motor flywheel reaches full speed the output is lessened and the led's are very dim. As the motor starts to slow down again and the plates make more solid contact with the brushes the brightness then increases considerably, I suppose that is because there is not sufficient contact on the brushes anymore at max speed. Every now and again I have to press the brushes back onto the plate as they get pushed away.
However dead shorting it with no pulsed make break results in zero volts from the collector coils

Perhaps a solid state make break switch would be better? Easier to work with at least.

Here is an interesting video with pancake coils: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32CZzeqqgzU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on January 30, 2014, 06:40:28 PM

If you take a coil tuned with a capacitor in parallel and pulse it with narrow DC pulses from a circuit, then when resonance of the coil being pulsed is reached the collapsing field energy goes into the sine wave produced (in the tank) and a sine wave also appears on the drain of the mosfet or switch supply voltage (in some circumstances). In other words the spike from the inductive release adds to the resonant waveform and the main inductive spike is no more. In this situation even if a diode is used to try to gather the inductive release "power spike" no spike "proper" will be there to capture, due to resonance.

However if too much power is used before finding resonance and big spikes are produced they can destroy a semiconductor type switch during tuning, careful tuning and pulse width control is helpful. Also knowing the ballpark figure of resonance beforehand and setting a close frequency on the pulsing circuit helps.

eg, a 1:1 transformer is setup using the secondary as a tank by tuning it with a capacitor, if the primary is pulsed at low frequency with DC pulses and a diode is used at the negative end of the primary to capture the inductive release spike and a second battery is charged with it, then as resonance is reached on the secondary coil by tuning the input pulse frequency, the charge output from the diode pretty much stops, due to the spike being incorporated into the energy into the oscillating energy in the tank.

I can show this happening. :)

Cheers

P.S. Contrary to the popular belief that resonant tanks are (inherently efficient) they dissipate power the same ways any other elements dissipate power, the oscillating current in the tank burns off power relative to the DC resistance it encounters, in the wire and the capacitor. Also with higher frequencies there is RF losses as another example.

Even though a huge oscillating power can be obtained with a high "Q" Tank being supplied by a small input, the input is replacing the losses only when there is no other loading than the losses.. And if energy is taken from the "Tank" for an external load then the Tank energy will be replaced at the rate of the input (as it does it). The higher the voltage and current in the tank the higher the losses so adding a light load can reduce the losses if it reduces the oscillating power in the "Tank".

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 31, 2014, 03:43:33 AM

okokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokok!!!!!!!!!! >:(

FOR THE SAKE OF MANKIND. :)

I DON'T WAN'T QUESTIONS ANYMORE JUST STUDY IT OK! >:(

SORRY I WILL NOT RESPOND ANYMORE! >:(

IF YOU GET IT THEN FINE IF NOT THEN SORRY. :)

OTITS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 31, 2014, 04:33:08 AM

Tito: Thanks for the hint.
Your input is always appreciated.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on January 31, 2014, 04:54:12 AM

@Tito,

thank you sir.. :D

@Tito and All,

Ok, please teach me. i want to charge my 0.5uF(2000V) capacitor very very fast, in milli seconds or less.

please help....

Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 31, 2014, 05:32:04 AM

Quote from: DilJalaay on January 31, 2014, 04:54:12 AM
@Tito,

thank you sir.. :D

@Tito and All,

Ok, please teach me. i want to charge my 0.5uF(2000V) capacitor very very fast, in milli seconds or less.

please help....

Thanks

Why ? You don't need it fully charged on first step...more important is having it not discharged and soon it will be always charged while discharging ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on January 31, 2014, 06:01:51 AM

Quote from: forest on January 31, 2014, 05:32:04 AM

Why ? You don't need it fully charged on first step...more important is having it not discharged and soon it will be always charged while discharging ;D ;D ;D ;D

coz i want discharged and then recharge then discharge then recharge...... :-[ [size=78%].i though i am too dumb [/size] :-\ [size=78%]. could not understand you sir, age factor may be.[/size]

could you please explain in details, as just start my journey.

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on January 31, 2014, 07:42:07 AM

:-* :P ::)Meowth

Quote from: Farmhand on January 30, 2014, 08:19:35 AM
Tesla this Tesla that, Tesla wanted us to do this and that.

Show me where Tesla claimed free energy anywhere other than directly from the environment ! Hydro, radiant energy receiver ect.
( The Tesla Tank Circuit itself is the creator of extra energy.)

What exactly do you mean by the words you wrote below ? What has he been telling us that is true exactly ?
(Tesla has already given everything we need to create a free energy device, what u can see on the internet of Tesla patent is lacking the Return System to the drive source.But many people now always demonstrate it on videos how did they get the extra free energy it is buried 6feet underground=(Ground/Earth) ;D.)

What do you mean exactly Cold electricity ? Where does the energy come from to charge the capacitor ? They do not charge themselves.
(What i was talking about is the electrostatic, which all people known this energy as cold electricity. The energy could be anywhere - air, hertzian waves, cosmic, sun, clouds, atmospheric discharge(lightning), it could be from a 9volt battery or any electrostatic machine. The energy to charge capacitor ( Pre/starting charge) could be from electrostatic generator or 9volt battery.

Tesla powered his devices with real power. Unless he was collecting energy with a receiver. All normal stuff. No magic performance of things powered by no input power.
(Tesla always wanted to create a Rotating Generator that could be turn to 15,000cycle per second, but he failed in the end, because the Generator could not hold it anymore, But Tesla found a way to create a Generator that no need to turn that still can attain the 15,000cps to 35,000cps, The wonderful discovery was the Leyden Jar/ Condenser he could perform work that before no Generator could attain.)
( Do you really think the Charge(Electrostatic) inside a capacitor is no real power?)

Please show us some actual demonstrations or show us quotes from Tesla so the misunderstandings can be resolved. (If you could answer me this question. How can you recharge the same capacitor with its own discharge? If you could show me a circuit or drawing on a paper, maybe i will reconsider.)

So far I do not detect any party or hoopla and "we found the free energy forever source", so I don't get it, do you have OU or something ?
(Man. Ed Gray, Aviso, Kapanadze, Uttkin,Don Smith and many more already showed and demonstrated it but still you are no believer.The secret only lies on the clever usage of the small device we call Capacitor. ;D ;D It has already been posted here the circuit from gyula.

Cheers

;D ;DMeow

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 01, 2014, 03:07:27 AM

Dear Sirs, Tito, Forest and brother Stupipy12,

today i am very very happy, you know why because half an hour i just discovered a way to charge and discharge capacitors quickly, efficiently and almost with no input power.

Tito sir i want to hug you, ::) coz you are always right, and you never tell lie.
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Here i am quoting your own words, "who forbid us to not use more capacitors" ;D ;D ;D ;D
I just using three caps two diodes and make a good bangs(more charge discharge), and just only using 12v 50mA(not 500).

Also i find you true when you say we just need to charge a capacitor only once. Yes i disconnect the power and did bangs and the capacitros are still charged.

Ok. here is the hint for all others...

1) 3 caps ;D ;D ;D
2) diodes ;D ;D
3) 1 relay or some other way, just Sir Tito told us may be a P.C fan.

Once again thank you sirs, please teach me more because today i just did my first step... and also there are some other important steps for completing my journey.

Bestregards to all good souls,

D.J

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 01, 2014, 02:06:58 PM

Quote from: DilJalaay on February 01, 2014, 03:07:27 AM
Dear Sirs, Tito, Forest and brother Stupipy12,

today i am very very happy, you know why because half an hour i just discovered a way to charge and discharge capacitors quickly, efficiently and almost with no input power.

Tito sir i want to hug you, ::) coz you are always right, and you never tell lie.
[size=78%]
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Here i am quoting your own words, "who forbid us to not use more capacitors" ;D ;D ;D ;D
I just using three caps two diodes and make a good bangs(more charge discharge), and just only using 12v 50mA(not 500).

Also i find you true when you say we just need to charge a capacitor only once. Yes i disconnect the power and did bangs and the capacitros are still charged.

Ok. here is the hint for all others...

1) 3 caps ;D ;D ;D
2) diodes ;D ;D
3) 1 relay or some other way, just Sir Tito told us may be a P.C fan.

Once again thank you sirs, please teach me more because today i just did my first step... and also there are some other important steps for completing my journey.

Bestregards to all good souls,

D.J

What?? no coil??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on February 01, 2014, 03:56:59 PM

Hello Tito,
Tesla and his Linde-thermodynamic analogon related

In the Century article Tesla compares extracting energy from the environment to the work of other scientists who were, at that time, learning to condense atmospheric gases into liquids. In particular he cited the work of a Dr. Karl Linde who had discovered what Tesla described as a "self-cooling" method for liquefying air. As Tesla said, "This was the only experimental proof which I was still wanting that energy was obtainable from the medium in the manner contemplated by me(16)."

an hydraulic resonant circuit:

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=FR&NR=514684A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19210316&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=FR&NR=514684A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19210316&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

and ,25 years after Tesla :
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19210709&CC=FR&NR=521330A&KC=A

Allright in the Phillipines ? ???

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on February 01, 2014, 06:24:06 PM

Diljaay. a.king21, and others.
If you really wanna help each other, to clear some misunderstanding, Diljaay you need to post some drawings or rough sketch of what you have been doing. I must say you only have found the Principle of Energy Amplification but what you lack is the Return System which a lot of people here failed on that part.

This is the facts that all of you NEED TO understand. The purpose of the Disruptive Discharge is to KICK the coil so that the coil respond with C EMF which is actually a very High Voltage Surge/Spike POSITIVE POTENTIAL..I think all of you here already KNOW where the NEGATIVE POTENTIAL resides, I have already posted it on the last page.
This is the most important part which Tesla was hiding from the sight of the likes of Morgan. Tesla never showed it on his papers and articles about Free Energy but the fact of the TESLA TRANSFORMER is a very big gift to the Humanity everything is already on the Tank Circuit it is just a matter of combination and common SENSE. ;D ;D
I truly look at Tesla as the Greatest Engineering Scientist who ever lived on Earth.For GOD sake don't ever question the man who lit the world, he has everything on his time he already has wireless telephone(iPHONE) ;D ;D and remote controlled vessel. ;D ;D

Meow 8) 8)

Quote from: a.king21 on February 01, 2014, 02:06:58 PM
What?? no coil??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: UnknownTech on February 02, 2014, 03:56:35 AM

It's from my old-archive. about re-capturing, re-transferring, re-cursive or anything that u call it.
It's one of the hints that Tito referenced to it in years ago.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 02, 2014, 04:08:57 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 02, 2014, 06:50:13 AM

eric dollard flux capacitor no electronics and coil

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 02, 2014, 08:38:03 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 02, 2014, 06:50:13 AM
eric dollard flux capacitor no electronics and coil

Totoalas you gotta link :D
Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 02, 2014, 08:47:40 AM

The diode arrangement seem to indicate yes.
When you get to studying it, does the collapsing field pulse the gate, will it self oscillate, or does it need a square wave gen to gate.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 02, 2014, 10:28:10 AM

The professors car & Flux capacitor Energy Youtube :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 02, 2014, 10:54:00 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 02, 2014, 10:28:10 AM
The professors car & Flux capacitor Energy Youtube :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtM6rJxs0uM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtM6rJxs0uM)

Interesting video

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 02, 2014, 11:20:46 AM

the set up 12 v battery in parallel to the cap the cap in the center or source the other end in series with 24 v batteries thru the vibrator or tuning fork as he described it in the 4 pole contact relay used in planes
in Titos circuit he replaced the 12 v with a 24v primary/ 220 v secondary transformer.... using ordinary relay
cap diode to protect the contacts and the relay itself using the negative or one side of coil connected to the nc contact the other end of coil connected to other side of relay coil...... or just the no contact to a computer fan using reed switch or metal contacts to charge discharge kick and kick back
what can you say Otits based on ur first sketch mentioned last week

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 02, 2014, 11:22:38 AM

Quote from: DilJalaay on January 25, 2014, 10:54:05 AM
Hello Tito Sir,

Are you going to delete your posts or not, as i am reading your old posts, and i am v v very much close to your secrets, then i will tongue you :P (just joking sir). You are my much favorite teacher sir, i love your way of teaching, and much respecting you.

My questions, are you still using battery as a source for your device?

2nd can we make an other kick on a kick? double kick on single input?

Is your 1st schematic is still valid or workable or you have an other better method? (attached)

Regards,
D.J

:) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(

Title: My C.O.D.M capacitors setup
Post by: DilJalaay on February 02, 2014, 12:59:22 PM

:D ;D ;)
Setup#01 and 2, are Averminko plugs, almost no power using to charge the caps and good bang.

Setup#04 is very power full bang.
Turn off the power supply still you can do some more bangs.

setup#05 not checked yet.

MOST IMPORTANT: Also take care to look, i am not killing the dipole.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 02, 2014, 01:12:59 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 02, 2014, 11:20:46 AM
the set up 12 v battery in parallel to the cap the cap in the center or source the other end in series with 24 v batteries thru the vibrator or tuning fork as he described it in the 4 pole contact relay used in planes
in Titos circuit he replaced the 12 v with a 24v primary/ 220 v secondary transformer.... using ordinary relay
cap diode to protect the contacts and the relay itself using the negative or one side of coil connected to the nc contact the other end of coil connected to other side of relay coil...... or just the no contact to a computer fan using reed switch or metal contacts to charge discharge kick and kick back
what can you say Otits based on ur first sketch mentioned last week

:( not get what you are saying.
A schematic/drawing will be very much appreciated.

Thanks..

Title: DPDT Relay Amplifications Tis
Post by: DilJalaay on February 02, 2014, 01:34:45 PM

:) ;) :D ;D ::) :-* :-[

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that-prophet on February 02, 2014, 02:15:39 PM

Quote from: that_prophet on December 06, 2013, 12:25:06 AM
GEM=God's Electricity Machine

Free energy is so simple,
That we have missed it.

In our looking for such complex ways to fight friction costs.
We have failed to look at simple geometry
How you can multiply your rotations with changing the size of pulleys
Please remember, with electricity, more rotations is more power

Free energy has been discovered = (this is a Gift from God)
- By a Born-Again pre-Trib Saint (pre-Trib began early 2012),
- Scriptural Proof we are allowed to know these doors/deadlines (Mat 24:33)

I call this free energy machine a GEM = (God s Electricity Multiplier)

This one_christian_warrior was shown this Miracle by the God of our Holy Bible
- from The God of the Bible = (Father +Jesus +Holy Spirit)

I believe this might be because I asked our Father for something to help others,
- + not for myself = ( though it does bring me great joy )

I have always wondered about how I could help my future Tribulation Saints
- So I asked for some way to help these Tribulation Saints be better
- - Able to survive easier, so they can make it past the Great Tribulation
- When they would have to survive our Canadian winters
- - off the power grid

He first showed me a Vision, of a ten-speed bicycle going up + down a hill
- Where if you drove up the hill in tenth gear, (few turns of the pedals)
- - Then back down in first gear
- - - You would do far less pedaling up the hill
- - - - Then pedal like crazy all of the way down
- - With electricity, more rotations equals more AC electricity (power)

Then, as a confirmation, that this came from Good Forces = Holy Spirit
- + not bad ones (fallen angels)
- - I found it described in Ezekiel 1:16,
- - - Where they were trying to describe the workings of a UFO:
- - - - Or chariot of fire (2Kings 2:11)

When you take a careful look at this technology
- It seems obvious (the more generators you add, the greater the multiplication factor)
- - You put power into a motor with a large pulley
- - - Which you only have to turn the one single turn (very little energy)

Then you take power out of the one to a hundred small pulleys with generators
- That you attach to the same belt
- - Each generator rotates tens to hundreds of times faster
- - - Each rotation gives you electricity (lots of energy)
- - - - It is truly that simple

I believe that it can't help but work
- Then why has this simple method of gaining free energy been hidden for so long
- - It is because Satan + his evil spirits are working hard hiding this
- - - How else do you explain this not being discovered earlier
- - - - Like, as soon as electricity had been discovered
- - - - - This is soooooooooo simple
- - - - - - Why has it been hidden

Well, it is hidden no longer. I have published for all to use freely
- at : http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

+ what I heard on the web
- - that if a person publishes something on the web
- - - and chooses not to patent it, like I have done
- - - - then it opens it up for all to use freely
- - - - - without having to pay any patent fees

I have this, and two other unique ideas given me by God that I have published
- On the web at this website http://beliefstoliveby.yolasite.com/

You use pulleys to multiply your rotations
And with electricity, more rotations is equal to more electricity

You use pulleys to multiply your rotations
And with electricity, more rotations is equal to more electricity

The massive multiplication of rotations is where we can gain the energy. The idea is to put power into the torque of rotating the large pulley of the DC drive motor, which is converted into massive amounts of rotations of the output generators, as we can connect tens if not hundreds of output generators through simply increasing the size of the belt that drives them to accommodate the increase in the number of small pulleys. The vast amount of multiplications of rotations gives you enough power to not only power itself, but cover any loss due to friction, and actually generate an excess of energy. The idea is, to use simple geometry(size change of diameters) to create an increase of rotations through massive circumferential differences. In effect, you are multiplying the power.

We don't need the air polluting effects of the combustion engine any more
We have self-generating electricity generators
That can be made to practically any size or voltage
So that we have the choice to have almost everything self powered

I know this will work, and I believe that this will change the world that we live in for the better. I proved that the idea works with my electric wheelchair experiment, but I have not been able to get a bicycle light generator to finish the prototype.(something I will be struggling to remedy for a while now) I also thought of using an electronics simulation software to not only prove that it works, but then we would have a video of how one actually works. I know, it`s so simple it seems too simple to work, and if it would work, then why wouldn't someone have thought it up earlier.

I know, it`s so simple it seems too stupid to work, and if it would work, then why wouldn't someone have thought it up earlier.

I figure that if you keep adding output generators to the belt
then you would eventually generate enough power
to make up for the power that you are putting into the drive motor
as well as any losses due to friction
until you add enough output generators
to have not only have a self powered machine
but you can get an excess of power as an output
= free energy output generator

Here are a few of the reasons for this system to work miracles
- The massive circumferential differences between a large drive rotor
o You put power into turning a motor only once-(lg)
§ When the power out generator(s) spin hundreds of times faster
· Each rotation gives you power to put back into the system
- Then you could add tens of these output generators
o All of these would be turning the many hundreds of times faster
- Them you could enlarge the drive motor pulley to the max
o As well as shrinking the size of the pulleys on the output generators
§ to make the multiplication factor even more
- So lets see, you are putting energy into the high torque motor with a large pulley
o And then through extreme size differences in pulleys
§ As well as the simple addition on 10`s if not 100`s of generators
· You get your many generators to spin many rotations
o That you are getting power out of
§ While your input motor only turns the once
· You have to make power

You need one DC motor as an input motor
Then you need at least one AC motor as a generator
This is one of the easiest way to multiply your input power
By adding additional output generators
on the same belt as your input DC motor with the one large pulley
Or, you could change size of the pulleys is another way to effect your multiplication
by shrinking diameter of output generator(s) pulley
or increasing diameter of DC input motor pulley
are other ways of increasing you multiplication

the drive motor and all of the generators could be any voltage
as long as they are of the same voltage
you might need to use voltage regulators
to keep this contraption running smoothly

Maybe this mechanism should be called an electricity multiplier
As you always need the initial amount of electrical power
To be multiplied into your gaining of free energy
Which can be initialized by giving the large pulley a turn by hand

this is a Miracle from God
yes, it does indeed work
using size change in diameters of pulleys
to multiply the rotations of your input motor
by the large change in circumferences of the pulleys

as in, the multiplication factor is due to
the tens if not hundreds of times the circumference changes

I just don't like the idea of somebody blowing up a battery
And maybe even catching fire

Now, most likely you will not be interested in this Spiritual part
But I discovered this by praying and asking the God of the Holy Bible
for a way to help us earthlings, the Tribulation Saints mostly
Especially during the 3.5 years of the Great Tribulation
Where they will need a way to survive our cold Canadian winters off the electricity grid

Don't believe in Satan or evil forces
Please explain why this simple idea
Of using change in size of pulleys to multiply electrical power
Has not been discovered all ready
to all Who are in the Family of Christ
this is for the tribulation saints
how else do they stay alive + hidden
in our cold Canadian winters
WARNING = the pre-Trib started on March 14th, 2012
http://doorschristmustpassthrough.yolasite.com/

joe lynch
one_christian_warrior@yahoo.ca
http://beliefstoliveby.yolasite.com/

Diagrams of some uses for this technology are at:
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

Title: Re: DPDT Relay Amplifications Tis
Post by: Magluvin on February 02, 2014, 02:19:29 PM

Quote from: DilJalaay on February 02, 2014, 01:34:45 PM
:) ;) :D ;D ::) :-* :-[

??? I dont get it. Just ran it on sim and it shows losses with each switching, and no output load of any kind, just switches and caps. Have you actually tried it?

Mags

Title: Re: DPDT Relay Amplifications Tis
Post by: a.king21 on February 02, 2014, 02:39:47 PM

Quote from: DilJalaay on February 02, 2014, 01:34:45 PM
:) ;) :D ;D ::) :-* :-[

Thanks for the diagrams, will try these, you are a star, sir.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wings on February 02, 2014, 03:02:57 PM

Quote from: DilJalaay on February 02, 2014, 01:12:59 PM

:( not get what you are saying.
A schematic/drawing will be very much appreciated.

Thanks..

http://www.gestaltreality.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/PP-18-AR.jpg (http://www.gestaltreality.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/PP-18-AR.jpg)
http://www.gestaltreality.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/PP-18_AR_Power_Converter.jpg (http://www.gestaltreality.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/PP-18_AR_Power_Converter.jpg)
http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3187831/vibrator-apart-jpg-october-9-2011-4-25-pm-607k?da=y
http://www.gestaltreality.com/energy-synthesis/eric-dollard/additional-posts-by-e-p-dollard/ (http://www.gestaltreality.com/energy-synthesis/eric-dollard/additional-posts-by-e-p-dollard/)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 02, 2014, 03:07:45 PM

Quote from: wings on February 02, 2014, 03:02:57 PM
http://www.gestaltreality.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/PP-18-AR.jpg (http://www.gestaltreality.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/PP-18-AR.jpg)
http://www.gestaltreality.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/PP-18_AR_Power_Converter.jpg (http://www.gestaltreality.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/PP-18_AR_Power_Converter.jpg)
http://www.gestaltreality.com/energy-synthesis/eric-dollard/additional-posts-by-e-p-dollard/ (http://www.gestaltreality.com/energy-synthesis/eric-dollard/additional-posts-by-e-p-dollard/)

That's the way Benitez did it a hundred years ago, but I don't think it's Tito's way

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 02, 2014, 04:56:36 PM

FROM ERIC DOLLARD CIRCUIT
tito replaced the 12 v with transformer, as for the relay instead of vibrator he used ordinary relay and for the contacts a pc fan was used for high speed switching the diode resistor) or relay itself) in series and in parallel with the cap and NO contact thats my interpretation on DJs attachment of Titos circuit
:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 02, 2014, 05:16:30 PM

Well as we have gone over earlier in the thread, discharging a cap directly into another cap, we lose 50% of our initial energy. That loss is avoided by using inductors in the path from cap to cap. In the sim of the circuit above, I even used very low ohm switching and no resistance added to the circuit. Still lossy. Cap to cap is like a full air tank into an empty. Once they equal out, 50-50 in each tank, the total amount of energy left in both tanks total is 50% of what was in the first full tank. :o

Now, if we insert a turbine in the path of air pressure pipe that was connected to a fly wheel, then as we release the pressure from the full tank, it begins to fill the empty tank, but, as the pressure flows, the turbine spins up the flywheel(inductor) and once the empty tanks pressure reaches the same pressure as the first tank, the fly wheel is near max rpm, and continues to feed the previously empty tank from the tank that was full, and in the end, using check valves(diode), the empty tank could be the full tank and the first empty, if it were not for inefficiencies of the total system. ;)

So I have a valid argument with the circuit presented, as there are losses in dumping caps into caps. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 02, 2014, 05:37:09 PM

Eric dollards way

Title: Re: DPDT Relay Amplifications Tis
Post by: stupify12 on February 02, 2014, 09:13:10 PM

Hello everyone.
8) what you have is the proof of the what actually the true nature of capacitor and a cap discharge. Okay i give you this hint. All the necessary parts and set up to have free energy has already been posted here and well understood by our friend a.king21.

I will explain it in words. We need a pre charge capacitor lets say 1.5v in a 1uf to 10uf 250v to 400v cap ( the purpose of smaller capacity is to fill it with charge faster) , then we discharge this cap to a coil which has very low resistance-we also have a many turns of secondary coil which is induced by the capacitor 400v discharge which make will result into multiplication of electrostatic energy. The output of the secondary is to charge a HV cap lets say .50uf 2000v to 4000v, this 4000v energy is to create a HF transformer( this is the part which create the extra energy=frequency)- the primary is also a very low resistance which also has a Secondary- capture only the charge which is more POSITIVE=Spike/Surge of CEMF/BEMF to charge another BANK of capacitor it depends how many capacity you need- it is still be charged faster because you have here a HF charger.Again capture only the POSITIVE and connect it on the POsitive of the BANK, and for the negative- I already give you all the hint of it to where you will get it. We call it charge funnel of energy from the environment.

The capacitor Bank should be timely discharge back to the first capacitor when your switch of the cap 400v is OPEN Circuit. So you can charge it fully. At the same time the path of your discharge is true a transformer, so clock your discharge with 50/60hz.

P.S. with capacitor discharge you can also fast charge a battery it depends upon your frequency of choice. The pre charge could be from 9volt battery, electrostatic machine, Aerial capacity.

Quote from: DilJalaay on February 02, 2014, 01:34:45 PM
:) ;) :D ;D ::) :-* :-[

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on February 02, 2014, 10:18:48 PM

From Tito's posts

QuoteSuppose two capacitors of C value initially charged at Q charges each one,(that is at V potential).

When capacitors are in parallel, the battery of 2*V waste Q charges to fill one capacitor, and other Q charges to fill the other at the same time. The capacitors rise to the same voltage as the battery (2*V).

Then you've got the capacitors charged at 2*V volts.

Now you disconnect the parallel.

Now you've got two C capacitors, each one charged at 2*Q. This means that each one of the disconnected capacitors have the same 2*V volts as the battery.

Now connect them in series. Now you've got 2*V volts of one 2*Q/C capacitor plus 2*V volts of the other 2*Q/C capacitor (series connection). That is 4*V.

They say that two series C capacitor are equal to C/2 because (in terms of voltage):

4*V = 2*Q/C + 2*Q/C = 4*Q/C = 2*Q/(C/2)

Now, it's clear that two C series capacitors at 4*V are the same as a unique C/2 capacitor at 4*V (but charged at half the charge!).

Why free energy?

Now, connect the series capacitors to the battery. The 4*V volts will be "dumped" into the battery. Then, the charges stored in the C capacitors will go to the battery, until the potential level of the series capacitors rise 2*V volts of the battery again.

Now, if you've got 2*V in the series connection, you must have V on each capacitor when you disconnect them. That means that each one of the capacitors is charged at V so the relation of charges is Q/C that is initial conditions.

SO YOU HAVE THE SAME CHARGES ON CAPACITORS THAN WHEN YOU STARTED THE CYCLE, SO THE CHARGES THE BATTERY GAVE ON PARALLEL CHARGING PROCCESS RETURN TO THE BATTERY ON SERIES DISCHARGING PROCCESS, so THE BATTERY DOES NEVER DISCHARGE.

Now only one method is missing

As it goes back and forth then it should be doing some magnification there, and we have to step that up first ok.

"for us to use the pure high voltage, we have to add a small caps to make or take effect in a coil ok "
That's it you have it.
The only secret now is the design.

i have gave you all the tools you need.

Quoteok here is a simple toy to scrutinize : let say for example we can make a make and brake right?, and since we know that a diode can permit a current and voltage to pass then why not after the diode lets make a lot of coils but not permitting bemf to go back ;D is that clear? oh boy my ape English really makes secrets. ;D

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/16496-self-induction.html#post248775

QuoteOne more thing, about Tesla's bifilar coil. I made an interesting setup once, basically a solid state Bedini type oscillator, but instead of having a cap receiving the coil collapse I connected a bifilar coil. Meaning the output of the power coil was connected to a bifilar coil with a diode (like in normal Bedini setup). The wires on the other side of the bifilar were left open. Running the circuit for even just a fraction of time would charge the bifilar coil like a cap, and the neat thing was that it could sit there for hours after the circuit had been shut off, when I would short its open wires it would discharge with a bang just like a cap, well, because it is

Think about it

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wings on February 03, 2014, 01:03:54 AM

Quote from: Cadman on February 02, 2014, 10:18:48 PM
From Tito's posts

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/16496-self-induction.html#post248775 (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/16496-self-induction.html#post248775)
Think about it

Regards

oops wrong calculations :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 03, 2014, 06:36:45 AM

2 x 50 mf capacitors in parallel = 100 mf

2 x 50 mf capacitors in series = 25 mf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 03, 2014, 07:16:22 AM

QuoteOne more thing, about Tesla's bifilar coil. I made an interesting setup once, basically a solid state Bedini type oscillator, but instead of having a cap receiving the coil collapse I connected a bifilar coil. Meaning the output of the power coil was connected to a bifilar coil with a diode (like in normal Bedini setup). The wires on the other side of the bifilar were left open. Running the circuit for even just a fraction of time would charge the bifilar coil like a cap, and the neat thing was that it could sit there for hours after the circuit had been shut off, when I would short its open wires it would discharge with a bang just like a cap, well, because it is

Following that train of thought we can wind a capacitor directly on a core and create a high electrostatic potential on the coil, what happens if it is discharged back into another winding on the same core.

Will we get an electrostatic collapse like a magnetic collapse, very very interesting.

The bifilar wound cap coil would charge itself, not need to charge it just a discharge path........ right?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 03, 2014, 07:32:12 AM

DJ, A friend of mine tried your 3 cap circuit on a relay.
There was no energy gain, but there was a constant voltage.
So, listening to Tito and applying the Tesla method we could try this next.
Insert a 2 turn Tesla primary into the circuit.
Better if the secondary is bifilar?

Title: Re: DPDT Relay Amplifications Tis
Post by: crazycut06 on February 03, 2014, 07:36:32 AM

Quote from: stupify12 on February 02, 2014, 09:13:10 PM
Hello everyone.
8) what you have is the proof of the what actually the true nature of capacitor and a cap discharge. Okay i give you this hint. All the necessary parts and set up to have free energy has already been posted here and well understood by our friend a.king21.

I will explain it in words. We need a pre charge capacitor lets say 1.5v in a 1uf to 10uf 250v to 400v cap ( the purpose of smaller capacity is to fill it with charge faster) , then we discharge this cap to a coil which has very low resistance-we also have a many turns of secondary coil which is induced by the capacitor 400v discharge which make will result into multiplication of electrostatic energy. The output of the secondary is to charge a HV cap lets say .50uf 2000v to 4000v, this 4000v energy is to create a HF transformer( this is the part which create the extra energy=frequency)- the primary is also a very low resistance which also has a Secondary- capture only the charge which is more POSITIVE=Spike/Surge of CEMF/BEMF to charge another BANK of capacitor it depends how many capacity you need- it is still be charged faster because you have here a HF charger.Again capture only the POSITIVE and connect it on the POsitive of the BANK, and for the negative- I already give you all the hint of it to where you will get it. We call it charge funnel of energy from the environment.

The capacitor Bank should be timely discharge back to the first capacitor when your switch of the cap 400v is OPEN Circuit. So you can charge it fully. At the same time the path of your discharge is true a transformer, so clock your discharge with 50/60hz.

P.S. with capacitor discharge you can also fast charge a battery it depends upon your frequency of choice. The pre charge could be from 9volt battery, electrostatic machine, Aerial capacity.

Wow thanks! it seems that you have already done this part, any pics or videos that you can share?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wings on February 03, 2014, 08:23:52 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 03, 2014, 06:36:45 AM
2 x 50 mf capacitors in parallel = 100 mf

2 x 50 mf capacitors in series = 25 mf

I am in trouble it is not an equivalent capacitor because we are looking at the charge accumulated when in parallel see this video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xgQt8dRhDnE#t=337 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xgQt8dRhDnE#t=337)

I am correct?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on February 03, 2014, 09:38:06 AM

DilJalaay, thanks for circuits :)

@ a.king21, wings, guys,

It doesn't really matter if caps in series are less mf than the same caps in parallel. That's not the point.
As much as possible you want the potential in these caps, in certain circumstances.

Also consider:
Coils have magnetic field. Can induce other coils. Will oscillate when pulsed.
Caps store potential.
Bifilar = coil
Bifilar = cap
Bifilar with one end connected can store potential.
Many uses.

To paraphrase Tito: Who says you must only use one cap?

Listen carefully, with an open mind, to stupify12, totoalas and Tito. Try not to filter what they say through what you have been taught to think.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on February 03, 2014, 10:34:14 AM

Hey guys listen to this.

I have a home made capacitor that I use in a circuit. It's a high voltage low mf cap. In my circuit it is used for storing potential from a fast pulse, just like any other cap. Here's a neat thing about this particular cap. While it is being pulsed, it will transmit electrical energy to several separate circuits without any extra loss from the circuit it is wired to.

Isn't that interesting?

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 03, 2014, 11:13:48 AM

everything said and they say this and that
We can add up all and build a simple echematic like Gyula did which worked for me.....
can be totally based from Tito or anything that has been partly tested and need only some fine tuning as
Crazycut suggest.... LETS DO THE WALK.......
CHEERS
totoalas :) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 03, 2014, 01:20:52 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 03, 2014, 11:13:48 AM
everything said and they say this and that
We can add up all and build a simple echematic like Gyula did which worked for me.....
can be totally based from Tito or anything that has been partly tested and need only some fine tuning as
Crazycut suggest.... LETS DO THE WALK.......
CHEERS
totoalas :) ;)

can you pls repost that schematic, Sir.

thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 03, 2014, 01:23:56 PM

Quote from: Cadman on February 03, 2014, 10:34:14 AM
Hey guys listen to this.

I have a home made capacitor that I use in a circuit. It's a high voltage low mf cap. In my circuit it is used for storing potential from a fast pulse, just like any other cap. Here's a neat thing about this particular cap. While it is being pulsed, it will transmit electrical energy to several separate circuits without any extra loss from the circuit it is wired to.

Isn't that interesting?

Regards

Hmmm :o [size=78%] great sir,[/size]

how you find that it transmit energy to other circuit? what is the actual setup/scenario.?

am very much curious, some pictures could be much appreciated.

thanks and regards,
D.J

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on February 03, 2014, 02:28:43 PM

DilJalaay,

Quotehow you find that it transmit energy to other circuit? what is the actual setup/scenario.?

This made me realize it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI3GYNLh5Mc

Bifilar = cap or coil. By bifilar I mean the type patented by Tesla, without cores, like in the video.

The circuit you posted here http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg386021/#msg386021 should work to test this for yourself. Substitute a 1uf bifilar coil for the 1uf cap that receives the power from your two series caps in your circuit drawing (the cap on the left). Oscillate your relay very fast, as you did in your own tests. Place another bifilar close to the one substituted in your circuit.

The bifilar wired in your circuit will act as a capacitor. Also it will act as a wireless transmitter. The other bifilar will act as a receiver coil. Voltage will be on the ends of the receiver coil even though it is not a part of the circuit.

Also, it works best with high voltage.

Regards

Edit: If you can't get 1uf on your bifilar, get as close as you can then match the other two caps to it.
Edit 2: You might need to put your diodes back into that circuit. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 03, 2014, 03:50:27 PM

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/dlattach/attach/120180/ (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/dlattach/attach/120180/)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2014, 07:43:41 PM

getting good here ha :D

i think everyone is forgetting the magnification technique which is the very essential to free energy, well it is not bad to use that real time technique but it is much better if you combine that one and the parallel technique. 8) ;D

note: electrons are replicators but you should place them momentarily in a safe place. 8) ;D

To start from the bottom, the accumulation should be done first before discharging the caps, that's why if you notice in the figure 1 of tesla's patent, the controller are not the same in size, that is actually how tesla makes his constant timings. ;) 8)

conclusion: combine all the techniques of efficiencies and you can have the best free energy device. ;) [size=78%] [/size]

i think no need for me here, since you have now everything. :) ;)

I AM HOPING THAT YOU CAN ALSO DISCOVER THE NO ALTERNATE SWITCHING TECHNIQUES IN DC. CAUSE THAT IS THE PEAK. ;) 8) 8) 8)
ALWAYS REMEMBER MORAY STYLE IS STILL THE BEST, PROMISE!. :) CAUSE IT WAS REALLY THE PEAK HIDDEN SYSTEM OF TESLA IN POWER TRANSMISSION. 30 YEARS OR MORE OF FREE SERVICE TO MANKIND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!. :) ;)

Thank you for the accommodation everyone God Bless ;)
TITO L. ORACION FROM BULGARIA PHILIPPINES OF AMERICA ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 03, 2014, 07:50:54 PM

Tito: I am not sure what you mean by magnification technique.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2014, 10:49:30 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 03, 2014, 07:50:54 PM
Tito: I am not sure what you mean by magnification technique.

The meaning is simple. Its the 'how' that is not. ;)

I understand many of the individual ideas Tito has presented. A LOT. They are all good to know.

But when it comes to the magnification, or amplification, I am stuck just like you. ;)

Many of the ideas Tito present are of efficiency. And some things he has presented are different, where we dont need all the ideas in 1 project. Some are for other ways of getting there.

But Im not there on the amplification yet. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 04, 2014, 02:07:33 AM

http://www.fight-4-truth.com/Schematics.html
PRODUCING ELECTRICAL CURRENT OF HIGH POTENTIALS ;) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 04, 2014, 02:20:41 AM

;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 04, 2014, 05:25:30 AM

Hi everyone pass this video

I BELIEVE THIS MAN :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDXcXFhMnw&list=PLRsDn5aoWlZNaavk-3agGFQ_gCtzLljyB&index=57 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDXcXFhMnw&list=PLRsDn5aoWlZNaavk-3agGFQ_gCtzLljyB&index=57)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3BSkMj1wLc&list=PLRsDn5aoWlZNaavk-3agGFQ_gCtzLljyB

NOW I BELIEVE WE CAN FLY TOMORROW! AT LAST! >:(

OTITS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 04, 2014, 05:34:15 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 04, 2014, 05:25:30 AM
Hi everyone pass this video

I BELIEVE THIS MAN :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDXcXFhMnw&list=PLRsDn5aoWlZNaavk-3agGFQ_gCtzLljyB&index=57 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDXcXFhMnw&list=PLRsDn5aoWlZNaavk-3agGFQ_gCtzLljyB&index=57)

thanks and i believe you sir.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 04, 2014, 10:11:00 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 04, 2014, 05:25:30 AM
Hi everyone pass this video

I BELIEVE THIS MAN :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDXcXFhMnw&list=PLRsDn5aoWlZNaavk-3agGFQ_gCtzLljyB&index=57 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDXcXFhMnw&list=PLRsDn5aoWlZNaavk-3agGFQ_gCtzLljyB&index=57)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3BSkMj1wLc&list=PLRsDn5aoWlZNaavk-3agGFQ_gCtzLljyB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3BSkMj1wLc&list=PLRsDn5aoWlZNaavk-3agGFQ_gCtzLljyB)

NOW I BELIEVE WE CAN FLY TOMORROW! AT LAST! >:( Nasa Watch list ka na heheheh

OTITS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on February 04, 2014, 10:20:52 AM

Yeah got it man. What actually we need is a Potential from electrostatic. You are definitely right about the mF doesnt matter here.

The main purpose of the Tesla Transformer/High Frequency Transformer is to create and charge Capacitor with so many Potential faster than any normal Generator could attain in a form of HV energy.

The faster your Transformer charge the HV cap the more potential we could acquire in a very short split of time, which the Potential is what we need to do work.

The Potential can charge batteries in a new way, can do work with transformer. It doesnt follow the old rules of electronics because it is somehow HV and Electrostatic, if you discharge the potential it will look for the Return path, while returning to the origin it will flow like a fluid-like particle what ever you put path on its Way.

Quote from: Cadman on February 03, 2014, 09:38:06 AM
DilJalaay, thanks for circuits :)

@ a.king21, wings, guys,

It doesn't really matter if caps in series are less mf than the same caps in parallel. That's not the point.
As much as possible you want the potential in these caps, in certain circumstances.

Also consider:
Coils have magnetic field. Can induce other coils. Will oscillate when pulsed.
Caps store potential.
Bifilar = coil
Bifilar = cap
Bifilar with one end connected can store potential.
Many uses.

To paraphrase Tito: Who says you must only use one cap?

Listen carefully, with an open mind, to stupify12, totoalas and Tito. Try not to filter what they say through what you have been taught to think.

Regards

Meow ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 04, 2014, 11:00:08 AM

stupify12: Can you post a schematic please?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: GT899 on February 04, 2014, 11:38:31 AM

Hi, I tried out my wimshurst machine feeding the driver bifilar pancake coil and turns out you don't need a make break switch for high voltage but simply a spark gap, every time the leyden jars or capacitors discharge it is like a circuit switch.
Every time the spark discharged across the pancake driver coil all my pancake collector coils received the voltage even from a distance. I can't actually measure the voltage they receive but these collector coils charged up another leyden jar capacitor extremely fast.
You can get very fast spark discharging with the right set up from leyden jars.
Check out this video for a step down transformer from high voltage, really simple to build. With enough collector coils feeding this step down transformer it might just work!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNZFDaEYiDM

I am building these step down transformers so will update again soon once I got it all set up.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 04, 2014, 03:31:27 PM

Quote from: GT899 on February 04, 2014, 11:38:31 AM
Hi, I tried out my wimshurst machine feeding the driver bifilar pancake coil and turns out you don't need a make break switch for high voltage but simply a spark gap, every time the leyden jars or capacitors discharge it is like a circuit switch.
Every time the spark discharged across the pancake driver coil all my pancake collector coils received the voltage even from a distance. I can't actually measure the voltage they receive but these collector coils charged up another leyden jar capacitor extremely fast.
You can get very fast spark discharging with the right set up from leyden jars.
Check out this video for a step down transformer from high voltage, really simple to build. With enough collector coils feeding this step down transformer it might just work!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNZFDaEYiDM

I am building these step down transformers so will update again soon once I got it all set up.

Dear GT899.

Having watched the video from your link I do really feel that his Multimeter was being fooled by the electrostatic field. He was reading 17 amps on the 10 amp range (10 Amp being the max current it should read ) IMO it should have taken out the safety fuse !!

The acid test would have been a 12 V 21 W bulb !! Might I suggest you make just a couple of step down transformers to try the theory before wasting too much time and money.

Respectfully, Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 04, 2014, 05:13:02 PM

Di bale, marami na silang ilalagay sa watch list nila ngayong kalat na ang info. ;D ;D ;D

ang tagal ko ring pinag isipan yang anti gravity na yan e. at very possible nga yung centrifugal force di ba?. :)

kaya kung pansinin mo ito, tama nga.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHlAJ7vySC8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHlAJ7vySC8)

very light as A feather. ;D ;D ;D ANTI- GRAVITY SOLVED!!!!!!! ;) ;) ;) ;) 8) 8) 8) 8)

AND THIS ALSO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g60ZCcquCl8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g60ZCcquCl8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdMa5mQfYaQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdMa5mQfYaQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN38P8au1jQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KToggTKa9Lk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNLk5G3hgRg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNP5odWvJRk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppxPr9T_Gnk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7Q5khg87aU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXyQ92SPWds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRn4WpoNAyo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe6LR3bNRI0

SAVE ALL OF THIS VIDEO NOW , WERE GONNA HURRYAP FLY ;) ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on February 04, 2014, 05:23:16 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 04, 2014, 05:13:02 PM

Di bale, marami na silang ilalagay sa watch list nila ngayong kalat na ang info. ;D ;D ;D

ang tagal ko ring pinag isipan yang anti gravity na yan e. at very possible nga yung centrifugal force di ba?. :)

kaya kung pansinin mo ito, tama nga.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHlAJ7vySC8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHlAJ7vySC8)

very light as A feather. ;D ;D ;D ANTI- GRAVITY SOLVED!!!!!!! ;) ;) ;) ;) 8) 8) 8) 8)

I like this demonstration better....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5HGk5eaaR8

http://www.gyroscopes.org/1974lecture.asp

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 04, 2014, 06:48:30 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on February 04, 2014, 05:23:16 PM
I like this demonstration better....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5HGk5eaaR8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5HGk5eaaR8) NOT WORKING! >:(

http://www.gyroscopes.org/1974lecture.asp (http://www.gyroscopes.org/1974lecture.asp)

I'LL JUST DO THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdq37DLVd6g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRS6H2wE6ME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nWrBrtsouA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmSiHJliZqE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQWgiFh7Io
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guNOeAqVG6Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeQXZqIVVL0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bllv5ejjiI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAT3Kq_w_VM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83rdbSpiGA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB0F-PuMabo

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on February 04, 2014, 09:06:07 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 04, 2014, 06:48:30 PM

I'LL JUST DO THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdq37DLVd6g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdq37DLVd6g)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRS6H2wE6ME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRS6H2wE6ME)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nWrBrtsouA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nWrBrtsouA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmSiHJliZqE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmSiHJliZqE)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQWgiFh7Io (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQWgiFh7Io)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guNOeAqVG6Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guNOeAqVG6Q)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeQXZqIVVL0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeQXZqIVVL0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bllv5ejjiI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bllv5ejjiI)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAT3Kq_w_VM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAT3Kq_w_VM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83rdbSpiGA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83rdbSpiGA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB0F-PuMabo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB0F-PuMabo)

Ex4c7ly; wH1Ch H4ve N07H1n' 70 D0 w17 4nY7h1n'....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 04, 2014, 09:49:31 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on February 04, 2014, 09:06:07 PM
Ex4c7ly; wH1Ch H4ve N07H1n' 70 D0 w17 4nY7h1n'....

Ya! 3xAc7y; 5o i7 3hen Y0u h4ve N07h1n9 2 50!

wow its nice new letters thank you for teaching me. :P ;D joke

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2014, 10:23:31 PM

Im not sure any of that helps. ??? But maybe this does. ;)

If what Dyson is saying in this vid is true about multiplying the air out compared to the air in, how can we apply this to electronics?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8he8afjQyd8

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 04, 2014, 10:48:47 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 04, 2014, 10:23:31 PM
Im not sure any of that helps. ??? But maybe this does. ;)

If what Dyson is saying in this vid is true about multiplying the air out compared to the air in, how can we apply this to electronics?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8he8afjQyd8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8he8afjQyd8)

Mags

Well, buddy for me if i'll consider the middle space as the core of a transformer it would be better if we make the coil in bifilar, and the concentration of effect is in that part of space.

still just a bifilar coiling of tesla ;D
in short nothing is new sorry. ;D

Well, we can change the core into coils like what we do in toroid 'Xformer. :-\

in my other point of view, it is acting as an accelerator of some thing that is not holding physically but by mutual in other form. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2014, 11:20:14 PM

Hey Bud. Well, I guess Ive done it wrong many ways. ::) ;D

When we are talking about bifilar, are we looking at just a few turns, or many? If few, then not much more capacitance than a normal coil If many. If many, should we worry about too much resistance of the bifi winding?

I have more questions, but these are important first. Like we look at a typical Tesla coil for example, and the primary is generally low turns. And all the writings of cap discharge into stout primary, is that old news and replacing with a high turn bifi is better?

Thanks Teets. :-* ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2014, 11:48:08 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 04, 2014, 10:48:47 PM

in my other point of view, it is acting as an accelerator of some thing that is not holding physically but by mutual in other form. 8)

Mutual by another form? Electrical field?

Coincidentally, fiddling with my Lasersaber motor over the weekend, I think I got a taste of what the electrical field is all about. Just a taste, I think. It is something I may have never seen if it were not for this motor.

The motor has 24 coils in series. Each coil, 3200 turns, No. 42 awg wire, is about 650ohm and in series 15.6kohm.

While fiddling, I was running the motor off of just 3 of the coils in series, and the other 21 in series to see what the output would be from them. With the 3 coils in series, 30v in(reed switching) I get near 2000 rpm and the 21 coils in series put out over 500v. Now out of 13.6kohm(21 coils) there isnt much current. ::)

Now to the finding. I have an old wire tracer used in telephone service. The part Im using is the receiver, which picks up all the noises of the reed switching, etc. anything that makes an electrical noise that is audible, this thing picks it up, louder with closer proximity.

While listening in with the noise probe, when the speed and voltages get up to what I stated, sniffing around the 21 coils in series, with open ends, there is this tone coming from the coils. But, the tone is loudest towards the first and last coil, and relatively quiet in the middle coils of the series of 21. Its not from the 3 driver coils or reed, as the tone effect is still there when input is taken away from the driver and the rotor is winding down.

So all that wire, almost 2 miles, there is charge being pumped back and forth in the coils(open ended, no load, and it is creating an electrical field at each end of the series chain.

I plan on doing a vid on it. Its not something you can see with a single open winding on a transformer, where you can see not much field change in the middle as I can see with all the coils in series.

Anyway, Just trying to make a connection. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 04, 2014, 11:55:11 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 04, 2014, 11:20:14 PM
mags : Hey Bud. Well, I guess Ive done it wrong many ways. ::) ;D
otits: No buddy, you're just kidding me. :D

mags: When we are talking about bifilar, are we looking at just a few turns, or many? If few, then
not much more capacitance than a normal coil If many. if many, should we worry about too
much resistance of the bifi winding?
otits: This is actually depends on what you are doing and for durability,
lets say for primary as the driving coil, it is safe if 36 turns times 2 AWG14 cause we don't
need much capacitance in the driving coil as long as there is a back supporting coil other than
the source. as much as possible there should be no resistance in the driving coil that is if
possible. To achieve the maximum effect of the core.

mags :I have more questions, but these are important first. Like we look at a typical Tesla coil for
example, and the primary is generally low turns. And all the writings of cap discharge into
stout primary, is that old news and replacing with a high turn bifi is better?
otits: for me it still depends on the source if we use high turn bifi in primary then resistance is
bigger if we only use 12v ;D [size=78%] [/size]

mags: Thanks Teets. :-* ;D
otits : thanks too next time buddy bye. ;) [size=78%] [/size]

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on February 05, 2014, 12:53:16 AM

You use pulleys to multiply your rotations
And with electricity, more rotations is equal to more AC electricity

The massive multiplication of rotations is where we can gain the energy. The idea is to put power into the torque of rotating the large pulley of the DC drive motor, which is converted into massive amounts of rotations of the output generators, as we can connect tens if not hundreds of output generators through simply increasing the size of the belt that drives them to accommodate the increase in the number of small pulleys. The vast amount of multiplications of rotations gives you enough power to not only power itself, but cover any loss due to friction, and actually generate an excess of energy. The idea is, to use simple geometry(size change of diameters) to create an increase of rotations through massive circumferential differences. In effect, you are multiplying the power.

We don't need the air polluting effects of the combustion engine any more
We have self-generating electricity generators
That can be made to practically any size or voltage
So that we have the choice to have almost everything self powered

I know this will work, and I believe that this will change the world that we live in for the better. I proved that the idea works with my electric wheelchair experiment, but I have not been able to get a bicycle light generator to finish the prototype.(something I will be struggling to remedy for a while now) I also thought of using an electronics simulation software to not only prove that it works, but then we would have a video of how one actually works. I know, it`s so simple it seems too simple to work, and if it would work, then why wouldn't someone have thought it up earlier.

I know, it`s so simple it seems too stupid to work, and if it would work, then why wouldn't someone have thought it up earlier.

I figure that if you keep adding output generators to the belt
then you would eventually generate enough power
to make up for the power that you are putting into the drive motor
as well as any losses due to friction
until you add enough output generators
to have not only have a self powered machine
but you can get an excess of power as an output
= free energy output generator

Here are a few of the reasons for this system to work miracles
- The massive circumferential differences between a large drive rotor
o You put power into turning a motor only once-(lg)
§ When the power out generator(s) spin hundreds of times faster
· Each rotation gives you power to put back into the system
- Then you could add tens of these output generators
o All of these would be turning the many hundreds of times faster
- Them you could enlarge the drive motor pulley to the max
o As well as shrinking the size of the pulleys on the output generators
§ to make the multiplication factor even more
- So lets see, you are putting energy into the high torque motor with a large pulley
o And then through extreme size differences in pulleys
§ As well as the simple addition on 10`s if not 100`s of generators
· You get your many generators to spin many rotations
o That you are getting power out of
§ While your input motor only turns the once
· You have to make power

You need one DC motor as an input motor
Then you need at least one AC motor as a generator
This is one of the easiest way to multiply your input power
By adding additional output generators
on the same belt as your input DC motor with the one large pulley
Or, you could change size of the pulleys is another way to effect your multiplication
by shrinking diameter of output generator(s) pulley
or increasing diameter of DC input motor pulley
are other ways of increasing you multiplication

the drive motor and all of the generators could be any voltage
as long as they are of the same voltage
you might need to use voltage regulators
to keep this contraption running smoothly

Maybe this mechanism should be called an electricity multiplier
As you always need the initial amount of electrical power
To be multiplied into your gaining of free energy
Which can be initialized by giving the large pulley a turn by hand

this is a Miracle from God
yes, it does indeed work
using size change in diameters of pulleys
to multiply the rotations of your input motor
by the large change in circumferences of the pulleys

as in, the multiplication factor is due to
the tens if not hundreds of times the circumference changes

I just don't like the idea of somebody blowing up a battery
And maybe even catching fire

Now, most likely you will not be interested in this Spiritual part
But I discovered this by praying and asking the God of the Holy Bible
for a way to help us earthlings, the Tribulation Saints mostly
Especially during the 3.5 years of the Great Tribulation
Where they will need a way to survive our cold Canadian winters off the electricity grid

Don't believe in Satan or evil forces
Please explain why this simple idea
Of using change in size of pulleys to multiply electrical power
Has not been discovered all ready
to all Who are in the Family of Christ
this is for the tribulation saints
how else do they stay alive + hidden
in our cold Canadian winters
WARNING = the pre-Trib started on March 14th, 2012
http://lie .yolasite.com/

joe lynch
one_christian_warrior@yahoo.ca
http://beliefstoliveby.yolasite.com/

( ok, I know that most will fall for satan's LIE, the religious belief of EVilsOLUTION )

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on February 05, 2014, 01:20:17 AM

Quote from: that_prophet on February 05, 2014, 12:53:16 AM

With electricity, more rotations is equal to more AC electricity

The massive multiplication of rotations is where we can gain the energy.

( ok, I know that most will fall for satan's LIE, the religious belief of EVilsOLUTION )

satan has his most powerful curse/spell/effort on this idea not coming out

just think if it were true,,,
we could have everything built with its own power supply attached
no more oil costs
no more oil fumes as massive polution of our inviroment

that is probably one of the best things he likes us having to use oil

and then there is how the middle east Muslem nations,(oil rich) seem to have us
right where they want us, (dependant)

satan no doubt feels happy about any + all tensions that he can get

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION-(multiplication)
Post by: that_prophet on February 05, 2014, 02:04:42 AM

Quote from: that_prophet on February 05, 2014, 01:20:17 AM

satan has his most powerful curse/spell/effort on this idea not coming out

just think if it were true,,,

IT IS TRUTH
From Jesus, the God of the Bible

Just think about it this way

You are only puting enough electricity into the drive motor
to turn the DC motor one revolution, (extremely minimal)
+ with then with the large size of the pulley
even the one rotation gives you lots of belt distance

Then there is the minimal circumference of your output pulleys
giving you the maximum rotations for each of your output generators,
- - (tens to maybe even hundreds of times of the drive motor)
- - - - < + we can have multiple output generators just by having a larger belt >

oh yah, did I mention that your easiest way to multiply your electricity
is to add as many output generators as you can fit, (or afford, lol)

YOU MUST GAIN,(nultiply) LOTS OF FREE ELECTRICITY

GIFTS GOD SHARED WITH THIS WARRIOR: to share with the world
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have these three ideas, that I strongly suspect was given me by God + I have published
- on the web at this website http://beliefstoliveby.yolasite.com
- - Along with a list of my beliefs
- - - And other things that God has shared with me
- - - - That I would like to share with the world
- - - - - WARNING = I AM is the Name of the God of our Holy Bible

everyone breaks the 3rd commandment
when we say "I am"
we are taking His name in vain

notice how movies + shows on TV use it often
why are all commercials using the "I am" now
Satan knows very well not to use it
Why do you think products are being sold by His Name

FIRST GIFT) –<in 88> next generation joystick (has 6 movements instead of 2)
(In a Vision which God shared me the week of my becoming Born Again)
- Detects motions in all three axis's
+ Detects rotation in all three axis's
- - plus there could be 6 more activating movements
- - - 2 for a small joystick for the thumb
- - - + 4 individual switches for each finger
that is 12 more motions detection
- equalling 24 in total
- - that is 12 times the regular 2
- - - of a normal joystick
- - - - I thought this was quite the Gift
(then He showed me this awesome virtual reality video gaming room)

SECOND GIFT) – <in early 00s> 3-D virtual reality games room
(In a Vision given to me sometime in the early 2000s)
- Where you are in an eight foot cube room
- - With videos projected on all four walls
- - - The ceiling + the floor
- You are held in the centre of the room by four cables
- - Which go from your belt to the four corners of the room
- - - Holding you in the centre of the room
- You are standing on a ball bearing mat with motion sensors
- - So that you can walk or run in place
- - - While to video moves by you on the screens
- You are wearing a skin tight suit with markings all over it
- - So that your body movements can be captured by the game
- - - Through sensors in the room
- - - - Then translated into game extra movements
- - - - - for fighting with your hands + feet

THIRD GIFT) – <about 2005> Free Energy

<<< these gifts are free to use by anybody = no patent fees >>>
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/
http://beliefstoliveby.yolasite.com/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 05, 2014, 04:34:54 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeamGlYafbE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 05, 2014, 07:20:25 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 05, 2014, 04:34:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeamGlYafbE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeamGlYafbE)

Waste of time.
The author himself says there's a battery in the upright post.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 05, 2014, 07:23:15 AM

that-prophet:
Prove it by showing us a working model.
Neither I (nor anyone else I suspect) is going to waste time on this concept
without some experimental proof.
We have been making progress of late with some interesting circuits.
Yours is not one of them.
Sorry.
If you show us a working model as proof, that would be a different story.
Remember: extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2014, 10:53:22 AM

Quote from: DilJalaay on January 25, 2014, 10:54:05 AM
Hello Tito Sir,

Are you going to delete your posts or not, as i am reading your old posts, and i am v v very much close to your secrets, then i will tongue you :P (just joking sir). You are my much favorite teacher sir, i love your way of teaching, and much respecting you.

My questions, are you still using battery as a source for your device?

2nd can we make an other kick on a kick? double kick on single input?

Is your 1st schematic is still valid or workable or you have an other better method? (attached)

Regards,
D.J

Can anyone provide possible size type of capacitor fast diode relay specs so I can start to test titos circuit
thanks :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 05, 2014, 05:51:17 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 05, 2014, 10:53:22 AM
Can anyone provide possible size type of capacitor fast diode relay specs so I can start to test titos circuit
thanks :)

I thought you already had it going and tested. ???

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 05, 2014, 05:56:25 PM

Hey teets. Below is 2 circuits. 2 coils in series bifi and an output coil. The first circuit the bifi is always in series, and the second, the switching happens at the series connection of the coil. Is one right or wrong? Would it matter?

Like the first circuit, the switch dumps into the bifi and the second circuit, the potentials are already in the bifi. Just wondering. :o ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 05, 2014, 06:46:26 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 05, 2014, 10:53:22 AM
Can anyone provide possible size type of capacitor fast diode relay specs so I can start to test titos circuit
thanks :)

Tito & stupify12 already gave cap size, starting cap 10,000 uf 50v or more, then secondary cap 10 - 20 uf 2000v, diodes used must handle the voltage from cap, so any 50v to 1000v or higher will do. :P .... ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 05, 2014, 09:34:30 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 05, 2014, 05:56:25 PM
Hey teets. Below is 2 circuits. 2 coils in series bifi and an output coil. The first circuit the bifi is always in series, and the second, the switching happens at the series connection of the coil. Is one right or wrong? Would it matter?

Like the first circuit, the switch dumps into the bifi and the second circuit, the potentials are already in the bifi. Just wondering. :o ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 05, 2014, 09:34:34 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 05, 2014, 06:46:26 PM

Tito & stupify12 already gave cap size, starting cap 10,000 uf 50v or more, then secondary cap 10 - 20 uf 2000v, diodes used must handle the voltage from cap, so any 50v to 1000v or higher will do. :P .... ;D

Thanks CC
Ive tried Gyulas circuit and it works but cheap components are better as sketched byTito experimenting on a string budget ( Dap Pdaf Vdaf )
:)
Otits pwede bang mamiesta sagot ko kwentuhan

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2014, 12:13:29 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 05, 2014, 09:34:34 PM
Thanks CC
Ive tried Gyulas circuit and it works but cheap components are better as sketched byTito experimenting on a string budget ( Dap Pdaf Vdaf )
:)
Otits pwede bang mamiesta sagot ko kwentuhan

Sagutin mo na rin yung KWENTUTAN PARA MASAYA ;D
Kahit papano e masarap naman ang cantonan namin dito, pero mas masarap kase kung ikaw mismo ang magpa canton. ;D ;D ;D

Maiba ako: na solve na rin dito sa may amin ang anti-gravity, gusto ko sanang interviewhin kaya lang baka kainin ako e. ;D ;D ;D
Fiesta kase sa capiz. ;D

Pasyal ka ng may maigisa naman dito. ;D ;D ;D

hohohotits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 06, 2014, 12:26:00 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2014, 12:13:29 AM

Sagutin mo na rin yung KWENTUTAN PARA MASAYA ;D

Maiba ako: na solve na rin dito sa may amin ang anti-gravity, gusto ko sanang interviewhin kaya lang baka kainin ako e. ;D ;D ;D
Fiesta kase sa capiz. ;D bakit d kasi magselfie mga yan hi tek na

Pasyal ka ng may maigisa naman dito. ;D ;D ;D

hohohotits ;D

Wag lang sa CONDO :-*

Naiiba ka naman Ah FOREIGNOYHENYO
ARE WE NEAR YET SO FAR IN OUR DISCUSSION?????
PWEDE MAYBE :)
OO YES ;)
HINDE NO :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2014, 12:42:06 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 06, 2014, 12:26:00 AM
Wag lang sa CONDO :-*

Naiiba ka naman Ah FOREIGNOYHENYO
ARE WE NEAR YET SO FAR IN OUR DISCUSSION? ??? ?
PWEDE MAYBE :)
OO YES ;)
HINDE NO :o

Siguro Navarro ka rin kaya ayaw mo na sa condo. ;D
awhile ago gabuhok na lang ang pagitan e, ngayon e medjo malayo na naman.
kaya nagpapasalamat ako kay prophet at pinalayo ulet. cheers ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 06, 2014, 02:27:41 AM

ha ha ha ha :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2014, 05:01:37 AM

it is weird that there is no comment in Tesla's patent 568,176 :-\ ??? :o

do you know that in one motor we can make 2 actions or more. 8)

Tesla always makes his circuit really amazing, double and sometime triple in action just in one circuit. 8)

This patent is really really interesting to me. hope you can see it. ;)

everyone, You tell me why this patent won't give you free energy. :) [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 06, 2014, 05:52:01 AM

Tito, what is amazing is how Tesla was able to compute and synchronize all those actions, and WITHOUT USING DIODES !!!! Tell me ,I'm lost :-( Trying trying trying and burning parts :-X I wish I could have mechanical skills but even those are unreliable with big currents

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 06, 2014, 05:57:20 AM

Lol kau dalawa! Hehehe.... ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on February 06, 2014, 09:52:16 AM

Tesla already has what you are referring to as DIODES. On their time they can make the current into Direct Current or Alternating Current with the used of Condenser Combination. In short Tesla was using condenser as DIODES. The name of their Diodes that was Electrolytic Rectifier. You can find a lot of circuit of this combination on the Tesla Spring Notes.

The Tesla Motor function as Interrupter, Charging Inductor , sometimes he also make the rotation of Motor into a blower like the Ozone patent. That is the proof of what kind of a genius the man we call Tesla.

Quote from: forest on February 06, 2014, 05:52:01 AM
Tito, what is amazing is how Tesla was able to compute and synchronize all those actions, and WITHOUT USING DIODES !!!! Tell me ,I'm lost :-( Trying trying trying and burning parts :-X I wish I could have mechanical skills but even those are unreliable with big currents

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on February 06, 2014, 10:24:06 AM

Don't forget, Tesla also liked to use a large self inductance as a sort of diode. That's another thing that has more than one purpose in his designs and I think he sometimes disguised those as simple toroids or coils in his patents.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2014, 06:39:08 PM

Quote from: forest on February 06, 2014, 05:52:01 AM
Tito, what is amazing is how Tesla was able to compute and synchronize all those actions, and WITHOUT USING DIODES !!!! Tell me ,I'm lost :-( Trying trying trying and burning parts :-X I wish I could have mechanical skills but even those are unreliable with big currents

Now i smelled your brilliancy buddy, case closed, and i'm closed here thank you ;) :-X

anyway, we can burn more its unlimited, its just your mind telling that its burning. ;D lol

i thought i saw a fuzzy cat. ;D ;) 8) [size=78%][/size]

tweety ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2014, 06:45:08 PM

Quote from: Cadman on February 06, 2014, 10:24:06 AM
Don't forget, Tesla also liked to use a large self inductance as a sort of diode. That's another thing that has more than one purpose in his designs and I think he sometimes disguised those as simple toroids or coils in his patents.

Buddy, have you read his patent about getting DC from AC. ::)

Wow, its really amazing that we can make almost everything into wire isn't it? ;) 8) ::) :-X

for the sake of durability again WOWWOWWEEE :D

OH i thought i saw another fuzzy cat dolls ;D

tweetot ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2014, 06:49:16 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 06, 2014, 05:57:20 AM
Lol kau dalawa! Hehehe.... ;D

ohohoh i thought i saw a crazy cat ;D ;D ;D lol
Its tweety and Bird ;D lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2014, 07:04:03 PM

Quote from: stupify12 on February 06, 2014, 09:52:16 AM
Tesla already has what you are referring to as DIODES. On their time they can make the current into Direct Current or Alternating Current with the used of Condenser Combination. In short Tesla was using condenser as DIODES. The name of their Diodes that was Electrolytic Rectifier. You can find a lot of circuit of this combination on the Tesla Spring Notes.

The Tesla Motor function as Interrupter, Charging Inductor , sometimes he also make the rotation of Motor into a blower like the Ozone patent. That is the proof of what kind of a genius the man we call Tesla.

Yes really i saw a stufid cat with a condenser in the stuffy nose, joke ;D lol

oh i'm wrong, its just my buddy stupify12 :D lol

its tweeter ;D :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 06, 2014, 07:46:06 PM

Im not sure that Tesla used condensers as diodes. But Cadman is correct in certain uses.

Ive read where the cap was used to allow a certain amount of current to pass(series pass), just in case there is a short or similar issue later in the circuit. It was a way of limiting full current from the source in case of problems.

Large inductors, I see them like an isolation device for spikes or pulses to keep them in the circuit not allowing them back out to the source. But if the large inductor is kept spinning(flywheel), it would be hard to have a current reversal during continuous operation.

But I believe Tesla used timed switching for rectification more than anything. My Lasersaber EZ motor build, the rotor can be spun either direction and charge a cap + or - depending on the rotor direction. So the reed switching only allows one polarity out from the motor. Same as when it runs from a source, dc is only applied to the coils at the right time.

Toto, your build of Gyula's circuit, was it self sustaining or more out than in? The reason I said what I said was, I thought thst you did build that circuit, but you just said also you want to build Tito's circuit. Well wasnt that circuit Titos circuit? ??? ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 06, 2014, 09:11:26 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 06, 2014, 07:46:06 PM
Im not sure that Tesla used condensers as diodes. But Cadman is correct in certain uses.

Ive read where the cap was used to allow a certain amount of current to pass(series pass), just in case there is a short or similar issue later in the circuit. It was a way of limiting full current from the source in case of problems.

Large inductors, I see them like an isolation device for spikes or pulses to keep them in the circuit not allowing them back out to the source. But if the large inductor is kept spinning(flywheel), it would be hard to have a current reversal during continuous operation.

But I believe Tesla used timed switching for rectification more than anything. My Lasersaber EZ motor build, the rotor can be spun either direction and charge a cap + or - depending on the rotor direction. So the reed switching only allows one polarity out from the motor. Same as when it runs from a source, dc is only applied to the coils at the right time.

Toto, your build of Gyula's circuit, was it self sustaining or more out than in? The reason I said what I said was, I thought thst you did build that circuit, but you just said also you want to build Tito's circuit. Well wasnt that circuit Titos circuit? ??? ;D

Mags

Gyuylas circuit is great but moneywise ive spent a lot zero watts in 40 watts out
for titos circuit first one
he used eric dollard instead of 12 v battery he replaced it with 24 v 220 v step up xfmr a cpu fan for switching
a cap diode relay and an inverter which I know you have all in hand or in stock
let us start from here and later migrate to a more so
lid ttechno stuff :) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 06, 2014, 11:42:13 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 06, 2014, 07:46:06 PM
Im not sure that Tesla used condensers as diodes. But Cadman is correct in certain uses.

Ive read where the cap was used to allow a certain amount of current to pass(series pass), just in case there is a short or similar issue later in the circuit. It was a way of limiting full current from the source in case of problems.

Large inductors, I see them like an isolation device for spikes or pulses to keep them in the circuit not allowing them back out to the source. But if the large inductor is kept spinning(flywheel), it would be hard to have a current reversal during continuous operation.

But I believe Tesla used timed switching for rectification more than anything. My Lasersaber EZ motor build, the rotor can be spun either direction and charge a cap + or - depending on the rotor direction. So the reed switching only allows one polarity out from the motor. Same as when it runs from a source, dc is only applied to the coils at the right time.

Toto, your build of Gyula's circuit, was it self sustaining or more out than in? The reason I said what I said was, I thought thst you did build that circuit, but you just said also you want to build Tito's circuit. Well wasnt that circuit Titos circuit? ??? ;D

Mags

Do you have a schematic of Gyuala's circuit?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 06, 2014, 11:56:32 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 06, 2014, 11:42:13 PM

Do you have a schematic of Gyuala's circuit?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 07, 2014, 12:29:25 AM

Not again, sawa na ako dito :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on February 07, 2014, 02:25:28 AM

hi..

will someone post a complete diagram instead of a confusing part?

maybe never

lol.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on February 07, 2014, 10:32:23 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 06, 2014, 09:11:26 PM

Gyuylas circuit is great but moneywise ive spent a lot zero watts in 40 watts out
for titos circuit first one
he used eric dollard instead of 12 v battery he replaced it with 24 v 220 v step up xfmr a cpu fan for switching
a cap diode relay and an inverter which I know you have all in hand or in stock
let us start from here and later migrate to a more so
lid ttechno stuff :) ;)

Totoalas, did you say you got some energy from Tito's circuit?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wistiti on February 07, 2014, 01:56:51 PM

@ marsing
Agree with you! :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 07, 2014, 07:02:22 PM

Quote from: Leely on February 07, 2014, 10:32:23 AM
Totoalas, did you say you got some energy from Tito's circuit?

Gyulas version yes :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 08, 2014, 08:00:19 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 31, 2014, 03:43:33 AM
okokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokok!!!!!!!!!! >:(

FOR THE SAKE OF MANKIND. :)

I DON'T WAN'T QUESTIONS ANYMORE JUST STUDY IT OK! >:(

SORRY I WILL NOT RESPOND ANYMORE! >:(

IF YOU GET IT THEN FINE IF NOT THEN SORRY. :)

OTITS ;D

I've analyzed the patent. It differs in fig 1 from the igniter patent by the addition of a second high inductance coil.
What is interesting is the single wire method of lighting bulbs.

Tesla does not say it is OU.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 08, 2014, 08:05:19 AM

However Tesla left A' open.
Tito:-Are you saying Tesla hinted something like this:-

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 08, 2014, 09:24:34 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 06, 2014, 09:11:26 PM

Gyulas circuit is great but moneywise ive spent a lot zero watts in 40 watts out
for titos circuit first one
he used eric dollard instead of 12 v battery he replaced it with 24 v 220 v step up xfmr a cpu fan for switching
a cap diode relay and an inverter which I know you have all in hand or in stock
let us start from here and later migrate to a more so
lid ttechno stuff :) ;)

Hi Totoalas,

It is very kind of you to mention that "my circuit" gives 40 watts out at zero watts in (if I understand it correctly) but it is not "my circuit", I simply drew a schematic as per Tito's description, you surely recall this:
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352107/#msg352107

You also drew a setup later on with an E ferrite core included in the circuit, http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352229/#msg352229 and if you could comment the exact circuit from which you receive the 40W output, that would be useful for everybody here.

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 08, 2014, 09:25:34 AM

Totoalas:
Can you please explain how you get 40w output with zero input?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 08, 2014, 10:17:45 AM

a.king21 yes, that is very hard to believe that that Tesla patent could be alone OU circuit. At least before starting to investigate it.
Why one electrode bulbs ? Very good point ! That's is part of the mystery. Apparently what Tesla is gently saying in background is : it won't work with ordinary incandescent bulbs due to high frequency and it works with my system of one wire energy transmission without lenz issue... So the output is critical, must be solved to be not loading circuit. First tip.Don't kill the dipole.

Second one. Amplification by Q factor.He is using ordinary municipal grid in that time it was Edison 110V DC. Now that is hard part : try to find any choke for 110V .... Looking for it at 230V I found only some rare relays coils and some small 230V DC motors. Basically what is needed is a coil from electromagnet with large enough resistance and very big inductance. Now you got milliamps taken from grid, small power like 40W and on the other side you have ... capacitor discharge into low resistance low inductance coil. Later Tesla used AC because it was easier. Again "don't kill the dipole " or rather Tito's "efficient usage of power source" apply. Power source shorted but really not bad, big energy in magnetic field but not much current. Tito: "yeah I'm using battery but not using it" (citiation from memory , sorry Tito-Master)

That's why Tesla always talked about activity of many thousands of horsepower... that was always real power for him, not just instant sharp impulse. Now listen carefully what Barbosa and Leal stated about theirs device : 12kW inside but you should only take 6kW safetly (not disturbing resonance I bet), 22W taken from grid....due to chokes...
I bet you can do it now.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 08, 2014, 01:43:35 PM

For All those disbelievers, here is Tesla telling us ou/ energy amplifications, more energy than input etc etc...

Counsel

Speaking of your not having perfectly undamped waves at that time, you were referring to that character of circuit?

Tesla

Yes, but with another kind of circuit I could, of course. The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in the technical papers. I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.

I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive.

so what you people thinks, he were getting that much big power with these time Edison 110DC.
Noway impossible, other wise he just used all electricty of the city alone in his labority. ;D

So here are the points:

1) damped oscillation is the key.
2) charge capacitor very fast.
3) fastest make break

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 08, 2014, 02:47:26 PM

Quote from: forest on February 08, 2014, 10:17:45 AM

Second one. Amplification by Q factor.He is using ordinary municipal grid in that time it was Edison 110V DC. Now that is hard part : try to find any choke for 110V .... Looking for it at 230V I found only some rare relays coils and some small 230V DC motors. Basically what is needed is a coil from electromagnet with large enough resistance and very big inductance. Now you got milliamps taken from grid, small power like 40W and on the other side you have ... capacitor discharge into low resistance low inductance coil. Later Tesla used AC because it was easier. Again "don't kill the dipole " or rather Tito's "efficient usage of power source" apply. Power source shorted but really not bad, big energy in magnetic field but not much current. Tito: "yeah I'm using battery but not using it" (citiation from memory , sorry Tito-Master)

Dear forest.

For your chokes a practical solution could be the use of a core and coil from the drive motor of the fan in a Microwave oven. They have a reasonable resistance and a value of over 1 Henry with the rotor removed.
Another alternative could be the use of the choke unit from an older style fluorescent light !! However these have a much lower internal resistance.

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on February 08, 2014, 02:58:33 PM

Talking about choke, why not a primary of a stepdown transformer

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on February 08, 2014, 03:44:56 PM

Quote from: DilJalaay on February 08, 2014, 01:43:35 PM
For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful instrument,

can someone explain to me what Tesla was talking about; 200 horsepower, and you're taking 5000 horsepower?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 08, 2014, 04:02:42 PM

Quote from: DilJalaay on February 08, 2014, 01:43:35 PM
For All those disbelievers, here is Tesla telling us ou/ energy amplifications, more energy than input etc etc...

Counsel

Speaking of your not having perfectly undamped waves at that time, you were referring to that character of circuit?

Tesla

Yes, but with another kind of circuit I could, of course. The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in the technical papers. I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.

I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive.

so what you people thinks, he were getting that much big power with these time Edison 110DC.
Noway impossible, other wise he just used all electricty of the city alone in his labority. ;D

So here are the points:

1) damped oscillation is the key.
2) charge capacitor very fast.
3) fastest make break

Counsel[/size]
I understood a little while ago when you made the statement of using several thousand horsepower put into a condenser, you could take out of the condenser a million horsepower. I wondered if you got the same condition with this machine.[/size]
Tesla[/size]
Yes; I charged the condenser with 40,000 volts. When it was charged full, I discharged it suddenly, through a short circuit which gave me a very rapid rate of oscillation. Let us suppose that I had stored in the condenser 10 watts. Then, for such a wave there is a flux of energy of (4 x 104)², and this is multiplied by the frequency of 100,000. You see, it may go into thousands or millions of horsepower.[/size]
Counsel[/size]
What I wanted to get at was, did that depend upon the suddenness of the discharge?[/size]
Tesla[/size]
Yes. It is merely the electrical analogue of a pile driver or a hammer. You accumulate energy through a long distance and then you deliver it with a tremendous suddenness. The distance through which the mass moves is small—the pressure immense.[/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 08, 2014, 04:17:38 PM

Quote from: Leely on February 08, 2014, 03:44:56 PM
can someone explain to me what tesla was talking about; 200 horsepower, and you're taking 5000 horsepower?

Dear Leely.

Two centuries ago Horsepower was the accepted term of power measurement. You have to remember that this was the age of the steam engine !! The internal combustion engine was in it's infancy, as was electricity. Very hard to imagine these days !! :)

At some point in time someone then calculated that One Horsepower equalled 746 Watts. This also related to the term Watt from the fact that James Watt had been the person to first quantify the power generated by his improvements to the steam engine !! See here for greater clarification. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

Another point to mention is the word "minute" this can have two meanings!! 60 seconds or very small !! I think Tesla was meaning the latter.

I hope this explanation helps ??

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on February 08, 2014, 04:29:00 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2014, 05:22:11 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 08, 2014, 09:24:34 AM
Hi Totoalas,

It is very kind of you to mention that "my circuit" gives 40 watts out at zero watts in (if I understand it correctly) but it is not "my circuit", I simply drew a schematic as per Tito's description, you surely recall this:
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352107/#msg352107 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352107/#msg352107)

You also drew a setup later on with an E ferrite core included in the circuit, http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352229/#msg352229 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352229/#msg352229) and if you could comment the exact circuit from which you receive the 40W output, that would be useful for everybody here.

Thanks, Gyula

Thanks Gyula for your humility
Without you we cannot decipher Tito's circuit
The only difference and there are lots of ways as Tito said switching method
I started with ssg pulse /pwm ignition coil to charged the caps
when the pwm failed due to HV from the ignition coil
I put it directly in to the relays
Dc input from the Analog meter showed zero when I switched off the wall power supply but the lights are still on ( 8 pieces 5 w led bulbs) the water tap is connected to the e core
Everybody can check my previous post
From there I need to simplify everything :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2014, 05:36:25 PM

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352317/#msg352317 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352317/#msg352317)

circuit from Romerouk for switching

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 08, 2014, 05:53:45 PM

I just had to put this here its hilarious

Its not working here but here's the link
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/16494-just-magnetic-fields-3.html#post250373

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2014, 05:57:45 PM

Tests result post 2851 by romerouk

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 08, 2014, 06:15:36 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 08, 2014, 05:22:11 PM
Thanks Gyula for your humility
Without you we cannot decipher Tito's circuit
The only difference and there are lots of ways as Tito said switching method
I started with ssg pulse /pwm ignition coil to charged the caps
when the pwm failed due to HV from the ignition coil
I put it directly in to the relays
Dc input from the Analog meter showed zero when I switched off the wall power supply but the lights are still on ( 8 pieces 5 w led bulbs) the water tap is connected to the e core
Everybody can check my previous post
From there I need to simplify everything :)

Hi Totoalas,

Thanks and you wrote earlier that when you removed the wall adapter from the mains plug, the LED lights went off while when you switched only off the wall adapter but did not unplug it from the wall then you had lights?
( http://www.overunity.com/4728/is-lindsays-sm-a-fraud/msg128233/#msg128233 )

So how things have been going since then, you managed to improve upon that circuit to get the 40 W? Can you give details.

Greetings, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 08, 2014, 06:43:43 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 08, 2014, 08:05:19 AM
However Tesla left A' open.
Tito:-Are you saying Tesla hinted something like this:-

No buddy, don't do that, cause it may lead you to an uncontrolled circuit behavior. :o

and that's dangerous!!! :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2014, 07:04:06 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 08, 2014, 06:15:36 PM
Hi Totoalas,

Thanks and you wrote earlier that when you removed the wall adapter from the mains plug, the LED lights went off while when you switched only off the wall adapter but did not unplug it from the wall then you had lights?
( http://www.overunity.com/4728/is-lindsays-sm-a-fraud/msg128233/#msg128233 )

So how things have been going since then, you managed to improve upon that circuit to get the 40 W? Can you give details.

Greetings, Gyula

I can have same result with reactve charger and less parts see dreamyear yt and reactive battery charger strange??????
Barbosa using earth also???
I will rebuild again my pwm to replicate it but im looking into eric dollard set up using titos first circuit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2014, 07:15:58 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 08, 2014, 06:43:43 PM

No buddy, don't do that, cause it may lead you to an uncontrolled circuit behavior. :o

and that's dangerous!!! :o

Ganyan din sinabi mo sa schematic mo using relay cap transfomer and batteries?
Ihaw na question abunda style
Ice candy at washing ma ching ang load mo?????
Pwede hinde oo lang sng sagot magagalit si wally payola :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 08, 2014, 10:10:00 PM

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg384885/#msg384885 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg384885/#msg384885)
Stick to Plan B that I will do Eric Dollard whowed his flux capacitor working which was modified by Tito (gud IDEA)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 09, 2014, 09:17:11 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 08, 2014, 10:10:00 PM
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg384885/#msg384885 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg384885/#msg384885)
Stick to Plan B that I will do Eric Dollard whowed his flux capacitor working which was modified by Tito (gud IDEA)

Hmm Eric Dollard Flux Capacitor, dont do this, it will take you to the future. Its time machine, very dangerous....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 09, 2014, 10:23:39 AM

Charge separation

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 09, 2014, 01:45:13 PM

IGBT's are about the only transistor that will pass this much power and do it solid state.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 09, 2014, 02:09:00 PM

So if the transformer charges the caps at a high frequency and high voltage but the igbt only fires at 50 or 60 hz would this be what Tesla was referring to in his patent.

Charging the capacitor to thousands of horse power and taking the energy out at a lower frequency.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 09, 2014, 03:22:04 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on February 09, 2014, 02:09:00 PM
So if the transformer charges the caps at a high frequency and high voltage but the igbt only fires at 50 or 60 hz would this be what Tesla was referring to in his patent.

Charging the capacitor to thousands of horse power and taking the energy out at a lower frequency.

Dear Dave45.

I see this circuit the other way round !! An Ac generator charging the capacitor through the chokes. The rapidly moving interrupter discharging the cap through the primary providing a high frequency output to what I see clearly as some of Tesla's "Gas discharge lamps"

Just my "Two penneth"

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 09, 2014, 03:28:57 PM

Hmm. Maybe some people think my question earlier about where to put the switching was silly.
In Daves post above, look at (K) to the left and right of the coil. 2 separate wires as primary. Is it considered bifi? But the circuit shows the cap across the bottom ends of the 2 (K)'s and the switching at the other ends of the (K)'s. Ill check the pat to see what exactly the (K)'s are described as

Teets didnt answer that question for what ever reasons he has.

So the pic below, the first circuit is a way we have seen many times, many ways, in power supplies with normal coils. But the second circuit affords us another place to put the switching. Dont know if there is an advantage to this yet. But there it is in the pic Dave posted. Perhaps having the 2 windings, each already precharged oppositely, affects the behavior when switched on.

Why is my cursor invisible? Is anyone else having this issue while writing posts?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 09, 2014, 03:30:47 PM

Quote from: Grumage on February 09, 2014, 03:22:04 PM
Dear Dave45.

I see this circuit the other way round !! An Ac generator charging the capacitor through the chokes. The rapidly moving interrupter discharging the cap through the primary providing a high frequency output to what I see clearly as some of Tesla's "Gas discharge lamps"

Just my "Two penneth"

Cheers Grum.

Hey Grum I agree, but the interupter only has to short the primary at 60 hz. the generator can run at high frequency's.

I agree 100% maybe I wasnt clear in my last post.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 09, 2014, 03:41:04 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on February 09, 2014, 03:30:47 PM
Hey Grum I agree, but the interupter only has to short the primary at 60 hz. the generator can run at high frequency's.

I agree 100% maybe I wasnt clear in my last post.

dave

Dear Dave.

I have just been rightly corrected by A.king21 !! It seems we are both incorrect in our assumptions !! "A" is actually the commutator of a DC machine this directly charges the Capacitor through the chokes !! Well spotted A.king21. ;)

Here is the last bit of text from Tesla's patent.

Having now described my invention and the manner in which the same is or may be carried into practical effect, what I claim is—

1. The apparatus herein described for converting direct currents into currents of high frequency, comprising in combination a circuit of high self-induction, a circuit-controller adapted to make and break such circuit, a condenser into which the said circuit discharges when interrupted, and a transformer through the primary of which the condenser discharges as set forth.

2. The combination of a source of direct current and a circuit therefrom, choking-coils in said circuit, means for making and breaking the circuit through said coils, a condenser around the point of interruption in the said circuit and a transformer having its primary in circuit with the condenser as set forth.

3. The combination with a circuit of high self-induction and means for making and breaking the same, of a condenser around the point of interruption in the said circuit, and a transformer the primary of which is in the condenser-circuit as described.

4. The combination with a circuit of direct current and having a high self-induction, of a circuit-controller for making and breaking said circuit, a motor for driving the controller, a condenser in a circuit connected with the first around the point of interruption therein, and a transformer the primary of which is in circuit with the condenser as set forth.

5. The combination with a circuit of direct current, a controller for making and breaking the same, a motor having its field-magnets in said circuit and driving the said controller, a condenser connected with the circuit around the point of interruption therein and a transformer of the primary of which is in circuit with the condenser as set forth.

NIKOLA TESLA.

:)

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 09, 2014, 04:05:47 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on February 09, 2014, 01:45:13 PM
IGBT's are about the only transistor that will pass this much power and do it solid state.

Well, they handle HV better, but the on resistance is high. That is a problem if the aim is to discharge a cap into a very low resistance primary. Most of the power will be dissipated in the transistor. You can put them in parallel, but were talking a lot to get down to very low mohm switching.

I have a few transistors that are as low as .0035 ohm typ.(Yes, 3.5mohm) Only 55v max, but 765A peak(forward and reverse) BUK95 TO-220 case. In Titios basic circuit there is only 24v in.

Im going to try some things with SIDAC's. The ones I have break over at about 230v and stay shorted till a min current is reached. So if a tiny cap is charged, that on period wont be long.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 09, 2014, 04:23:40 PM

Yea Tesla built a gen that could run at any frequency he wanted but the results would be the same we could run it from the grid or any AC source, high frequency and high voltage would be better.

The mazilli circuit is not true AC, it is after the secondary but not in the primary, True AC pulses neg one leg pos the other leg.

Quote
In order to gain the most benefit from your static neutralizing or static control equipment, it is important that you understand how they operate and how they provide the means of neutralization. Most electronic static neutralizers (http://www.electrostatics.com/products.html) are constructed by placing a high voltage on a sharp point in close proximity to a grounded shield or casing. There are two basic types static control ionizers- AC & DC
With Alternating Current ionizers the high voltage alternates current pulses through the 60 cycle operation, the air between the sharp points and the grounded casing is actually broken down by ionization and therefore both positive and negative ions are being generated. Half of the cycle is utilized to generate negative ions and the other half is utilized to generate positive ions. On 50 or 60 cycles per second power grid polarity is changing ionization every 1/100 or 1/120 of a second.

In static neutralizers they put the electrodes in close proximity this causes the fields to neutralize each other, this effectively kills any static, the same is happening with our transformers by running each leg to the same transformer we are neutralizing any ambient energy we may be drawing from the atmosphere.

The separated chokes in the patent are more important than one might realize, each choke is on a different leg and not in close proximity this allows them to draw pos and neg energy from the ambient thats why I drew the diode the way I did, this rectifies the bemf within the circuit.
The bemf from each choke alternates through the diode.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 09, 2014, 05:11:37 PM

Neg bemf from a pos pulsed choke and pos bemf from a neg pulsed choke.

They say only neg current runs through our circuits but Im not so sure, I'll leave it at that before I get tarred and feathered.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 09, 2014, 05:29:56 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 09, 2014, 04:05:47 PM
Well, they handle HV better, but the on resistance is high. That is a problem if the aim is to discharge a cap into a very low resistance primary. Most of the power will be dissipated in the transistor. You can put them in parallel, but were talking a lot to get down to very low mohm switching.

I have a few transistors that are as low as .0035 ohm typ.(Yes, 3.5mohm) Only 55v max, but 765A peak(forward and reverse) BUK95 TO-220 case. In Titios basic circuit there is only 24v in.

Im going to try some things with SIDAC's. The ones I have break over at about 230v and stay shorted till a min current is reached. So if a tiny cap is charged, that on period wont be long.

Mags

Thanks for the heads up Mags, I keep missing your post this is the second one Iv found reading back through the posts, we must be posting at the same time.

Maybe a mechanical short is best, definitely cheaper.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 09, 2014, 06:02:12 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on February 09, 2014, 05:29:56 PM
Thanks for the heads up Mags, I keep missing your post this is the second one Iv found reading back through the posts, we must be posting at the same time.

Maybe a mechanical short is best, definitely cheaper.

But mechanical switch burns up quick too, how to make it stronger?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 09, 2014, 06:10:33 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 09, 2014, 03:28:57 PM
Hmm. Maybe some people think my question earlier about where to put the switching was silly.
In Daves post above, look at (K) to the left and right of the coil. 2 separate wires as primary. Is it considered bifi? But the circuit shows the cap across the bottom ends of the 2 (K)'s and the switching at the other ends of the (K)'s. Ill check the pat to see what exactly the (K)'s are described as

Teets didnt answer that question for what ever reasons he has.

So the pic below, the first circuit is a way we have seen many times, many ways, in power supplies with normal coils. But the second circuit affords us another place to put the switching. Dont know if there is an advantage to this yet. But there it is in the pic Dave posted. Perhaps having the 2 windings, each already precharged oppositely, affects the behavior when switched on.

Why is my cursor invisible? Is anyone else having this issue while writing posts?

Mags

Doesn't it be the same when you close the switch? Current will flow same direction?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 09, 2014, 06:31:27 PM

Eric dollard use his vibrator oscillator for 20 years and now f...d up and no more parts as he gave away the model years ago....
a split reed switch from a radio he says can replace the vibrator :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 09, 2014, 06:40:38 PM

http://www.irf.com/technical-info/whitepaper/choosewisely.pdf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 09, 2014, 11:19:24 PM

TITO::

HOW CLOSE ARE WE NOW???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK3OiVfwmoQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK3OiVfwmoQ)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on February 10, 2014, 12:57:55 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2014, 05:01:37 AM
it is weird that there is no comment in Tesla's patent 568,176 :-\ ??? :o

do you know that in one motor we can make 2 actions or more. 8)

Tesla always makes his circuit really amazing, double and sometime triple in action just in one circuit. 8)

This patent is really really interesting to me. hope you can see it. ;)

everyone, You tell me why this patent won't give you free energy. :) [size=78%] [/size]

Here's a better idea you tell us why it should give free energy !

It is simply a circuit to produce high frequency currents of high potential.

Tesla designed many of these for use with Edison's DC system of power supply and also some for use with low frequency AC or DC.

The patent accurately describes what happens in the circuit.

Cheers

Tito, Any chance you could show us something you have built or are you all words like Zilano from EF was. ;)
..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2014, 03:44:56 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 09, 2014, 11:19:24 PM
TITO::

HOW CLOSE ARE WE NOW??? : well, how far is your foot from where you are standing?. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK3OiVfwmoQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK3OiVfwmoQ)

I am actually waiting to THE PROPHET's GEM post to make it very far again. bwahahahahhahhahahahahhahhahahahahha

and i believe the prophet is a suppressor here to what we are tackleing. ;D

His energy multiplier actually is energy killer. bwahahahahhahhahahahaha ;D [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2014, 03:48:32 AM

Quote from: Farmhand on February 10, 2014, 12:57:55 AM
Here's a better idea you tell us why it should give free energy !

It is simply a circuit to produce high frequency currents of high potential.

Tesla designed many of these for use with Edison's DC system of power supply and also some for use with low frequency AC or DC.

The patent accurately describes what happens in the circuit.

Cheers

Tito, Any chance you could show us something you have built or are you all words like Zilano from EF was. ;)
..

Well, the principle is simple and basic that even tom bearden told us already that you have to charge the capacitor in a very high voltage first is it not? ;) 8)

Then amazing things happen. :)

Now you tell me if i'm wrong about that. :P

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on February 10, 2014, 04:45:41 AM

You didn't say anything that made any sense for me to say if you are right or wrong. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

I asked you a simple question and you talk in tongues. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P But do not or cannot answer.

"You charge a capacitor to a very high voltage." I do that often, do you ? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ??? ??? ???

"Then amazing things will happen ?" Depends on what you mean by amazing. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

How about you show us something you have built ? Or are you all talk ? ;D :D ;D :) ;)

I'm not playing your games. If you cannot show us something that you have built then I say you are full of it, and simply playing games for attention. :) ;) :D ;) :) ;D :D ;)

You don't need any attention from me, plenty of others will give it to you for free. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :) ;) ;D ;D :D

:D ;D ;)

Free attention = free energy, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) :) :) :)

Cheers, Want more emoticons, here >:( ;) :) ;) ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :) :) :)

Have some more :) ;) :D ;D :D ;) :)

Hang on I forgot one :P

See anyone can post silly stuff, it's easy. How about answering the question.

Why should the circuit give up free energy ? Are you capable of giving a comprehensible answer ?

If you don't I will assume you are not.

Cheers

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 10, 2014, 06:41:46 AM

Do the wire leads act as antenna's?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 10, 2014, 08:55:50 AM

No Dave45. You got it right previously. Again back to Tom Bearden moving picture ;) Save it and analyze frames. That is the essence when simple Farmhand "activity" converts into magic Tesla ACTIVITY.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on February 10, 2014, 10:21:41 AM

I suspect this post will be largely ignored but here it is anyway.

May I suggest that you first build the circuit "as is" without trying to reproduce one with modern electronics? Use 60 VDC, that was a DC mains current available in those days. After you see what it is actually capable of, and understand it, then modernize it if you wish.

Studying the patent, ask yourself "why are there two controller disks insulated from each other?" In the circuit as drawn there is no practical reason for that. The patent is clear that there may be more than one condenser and the condenser may be small and inexpensive. If it may be small, why mention there may be more than one? Perhaps for the same reason there are more than one controller disks insulated from each other?

The purpose of the large self inductance choke coils is obvious, as in the electrical igniter for gas engines. Low input, high output to charge the condenser with one pulse.

When the condenser is shorted and the transformer primary is hit with the pile driver current from the condenser, the secondary is going to oscillate like crazy and will in turn induce oscillations in the primary tank circuit(s). Perhaps that will be enough to charge a cap or two?

And who says the transformer can only have one heavy primary winding? -|-------|-, -----||-----. The patent drawing clearly shows two K.

Also, from the patent, "..utilizing the intermittent or oscillating discharge of the accumulated electrical energy of a condenser or a circuit possessing capacity.."

" or a circuit possessing capacity", heavy TBC primaries anyone? Maybe, maybe not.

And I haven't even mentioned the secondary coil AC output.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bruce_TPU on February 10, 2014, 04:15:10 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 09, 2014, 11:19:24 PM
TITO::

HOW CLOSE ARE WE NOW???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK3OiVfwmoQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK3OiVfwmoQ)

I hope FAR FAR away. That video, no offense to someone at least experimenting....is useless.

P = V x I No I measured across the input, no I measured across the output. Sorry to bust any bubbles. A few more volts on the output is USELESS.

Cheers,

Bruce

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 10, 2014, 04:41:12 PM

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on February 10, 2014, 04:15:10 PM
I hope FAR FAR away. That video, no offense to someone at least experimenting....is useless.

P = V x I No I measured across the input, no I measured across the output. Sorry to bust any bubbles. A few more volts on the output is USELESS.

Cheers,

Bruce

Dear Bruce.

Non taken !! :)

What I did not understand was the fact that a 1:1 ratio transformer created a non 1:1 ratio output. With a load attached as well !! Could you explain the reason for me please ??

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 10, 2014, 04:47:33 PM

a spark gap from ignition coil plus earth on the ferrite e core has increased the ac voltage from 120 to 345 v ac using wall adaptor
in my test :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2014, 05:52:33 PM

Quote from: Farmhand on February 10, 2014, 04:45:41 AM
You didn't say anything that made any sense for me to say if you are right or wrong. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

I asked you a simple question and you talk in tongues. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P But do not or cannot answer.

"You charge a capacitor to a very high voltage." I do that often, do you ? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ??? ??? ???

"Then amazing things will happen ?" Depends on what you mean by amazing. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

How about you show us something you have built ? Or are you all talk ? ;D :D ;D :) ;)

I'm not playing your games. If you cannot show us something that you have built then I say you are full of it, and simply playing games for attention. :) ;) :D ;) :) ;D :D ;)

You don't need any attention from me, plenty of others will give it to you for free. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :) ;) ;D ;D :D

:D ;D ;)

Free attention = free energy, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) :) :) :)

Cheers, Want more emoticons, here >:( ;) :) ;) ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :) :) :)

Have some more :) ;) :D ;D :D ;) :)

Hang on I forgot one :P

See anyone can post silly stuff, it's easy. How about answering the question.

Why should the circuit give up free energy ? Are you capable of giving a comprehensible answer ?

If you don't I will assume you are not.

Cheers

So you do charge caps into high voltage very often, hmmm, so what is the our difference. ;D ;D ;D

I am not getting nor very interested in your attention!!! >:( >:( >:( :P

I'm just making video sharing here and just giving some tips and sometime asking question here for me to learn also. got that?

Now!, i think i don't have any obligation here to answer you what you want.

So weather you want to believe or not, I don't care!!! period! :P

one more thing, you try to learn how to use emo icons ha ;D don replicate me i'm more worst! lol >:( :( ;D :D :D ;) :) :o 8) 8) 8)

@everyone
for the sake of everyone. you think about this:
Why tesla made a patent about power regulation?
obviously He has burned lots of components isn't it. ;D what a genius Tesla. lol
Experience really is the best professor isn't it. :D ;D

The Farmer ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bruce_TPU on February 10, 2014, 06:08:49 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 10, 2014, 04:47:33 PM
a spark gap from ignition coil plus earth on the ferrite e core has increased the ac voltage from 120 to 345 v ac using wall adaptor
in my test :)

Now that may be interesting. And did the current diminish as the voltage increased?

Was it open circuited voltage or across a resistor?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 10, 2014, 06:18:20 PM

Quote from: forest on February 10, 2014, 08:55:50 AM
No Dave45. You got it right previously. Again back to Tom Bearden moving picture ;) Save it and analyze frames. That is the essence when simple Farmhand "activity" converts into magic Tesla ACTIVITY.

Forest: Do you have a link?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2014, 06:34:09 PM

Quote from: Grumage on February 10, 2014, 04:41:12 PM
Dear Bruce.

Non taken !! :)

What I did not understand was the fact that a 1:1 ratio transformer created a non 1:1 ratio output. With a load attached as well !! Could you explain the reason for me please ??

Cheers Grum.

I agree Grum. ;)

That seems special enough. I was impressed. ;D

Im not sure that it constitutes a parametric, as from what Ive read, there is no center coil, just the 90deg difference in the 2 openings of the core. Ive messed with multi cores, but not 3 coils in a row as you have. You might get the same effect without the 90deg cores, just make them 0deg and should be the same. Is there any space between the cores, or physically touching? The parametric Ive seen is 1 solid core with the 2 openings 90 deg from each other.

If you can, it would be good to get some readings on in and out power. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 10, 2014, 06:50:45 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 10, 2014, 06:34:09 PM
I agree Grum. ;)

That seems special enough. I was impressed. ;D

Im not sure that it constitutes a parametric, as from what Ive read, there is no center coil, just the 90deg difference in the 2 openings of the core. Ive messed with multi cores, but not 3 coils in a row as you have. You might get the same effect without the 90deg cores, just make them 0deg and should be the same. Is there any space between the cores, or physically touching? The parametric Ive seen is 1 solid core with the 2 openings 90 deg from each other.

If you can, it would be good to get some readings on in and out power. ;)

Mags

Dear Mags.

Thank you for your reply !! Better than the explanation I have not received from dear Bruce !!

You are quite correct regarding the "Non" parametric aspect !! Yes it should have a proper core coupling not as I have done with, what is effectively a shorted turn. So maybe some tests could be tried with multiple loops !! ;)

Alas in trying to revisit this experiment that was done nearly a year ago now I have taken out my power amp module!! It will be a few days before I can obtain a replacement but I will hopefully be able to provide the necessary P in P out data.

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2014, 07:20:29 PM

Quote from: Grumage on February 10, 2014, 06:50:45 PM
Dear Mags.

Thank you for your reply !! Better than the explanation I have not received from dear Bruce !!

You are quite correct regarding the "Non" parametric aspect !! Yes it should have a proper core coupling not as I have done with, what is effectively a shorted turn. So maybe some tests could be tried with multiple loops !! ;)

Alas in trying to revisit this experiment that was done nearly a year ago now I have taken out my power amp module!! It will be a few days before I can obtain a replacement but I will hopefully be able to provide the necessary P in P out data.

Cheers Grum.

Hey Grum

Yep, I took out my amp doing the same. lol I have to fix it.

While using another amp, I just kept the input to levels that the amp can handle.

You can wind smaller wire till you get 4ohm on the coils, which the amp will like much better. ;)

Im going through some of my cores to put together, where I will make the primary a bifi coil. It is said that using just 2 cores, primary wound on 1 core, and the second coil around/through the first core and a second core, loading the second core doesnt kill off primary resonance. ;D So it will be interesting to see if thats the case.

Keep up the good work. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 10, 2014, 07:39:47 PM

Not to get off topic, just wondering if you guy's have seen this.
http://www.overunity.com/14128/an-interesting-phenomenon-i-found/msg387246/#new

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 10, 2014, 10:23:01 PM

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on February 10, 2014, 06:08:49 PM
Now that may be interesting. And did the current diminish as the voltage increased? 40 w load stop blinking yes current increased

Was it open circuited voltage or across a resistor? open circuit v

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bruce_TPU on February 10, 2014, 10:42:10 PM

Quote from: Grumage on February 10, 2014, 06:50:45 PM
Dear Mags.

Thank you for your reply !! Better than the explanation I have not received from dear Bruce !!

You are quite correct regarding the "Non" parametric aspect !! Yes it should have a proper core coupling not as I have done with, what is effectively a shorted turn. So maybe some tests could be tried with multiple loops !! ;)

Alas in trying to revisit this experiment that was done nearly a year ago now I have taken out my power amp module!! It will be a few days before I can obtain a replacement but I will hopefully be able to provide the necessary P in P out data.

Cheers Grum.

Hi Grum,

Listen, i play with toroids and windings more than any could imagine. I have seen and produced things that I could not always expect. But the point I was trying to make is never measure open circuited voltage. It so varieswith capacitance.

Also you gave no input nor output current. Always use a resistor or load for proper measuring. Open circuited voltage is too affected by capacitance.

that is my suggestion.

Redo your test with input voltage and current and place a 10 ohm resistor across the load. That was my point.

Capacitance fools.

Cheers,

Bruce

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bruce_TPU on February 10, 2014, 10:52:16 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 10, 2014, 10:23:01 PM

Hi Totoales,

i have MUCH respect for you and Grum and other REAL experimenters.

But please ignore open voltage. Not saying it doesn't mean anything, just saying you'll only know measuring across a resistor and using rms voltage on scope. Or smooth to dc then resistor.

I am interested in the use of ground. But again, measure across a resistor without ground, etc and the with and see if there is a difference. If so, then you may be onto something.

Good job,

Bruce

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2014, 11:30:44 PM

Above all, the fact that the out V is greater than the in V is the interesting part. it does seem to be a 1to1 ratio. And it is simple AC in AC out. Now if it were pulsed or square in, then I wouldnt be so surprised. Makes me wana do 3 cores with 4 coils. lol Hey, who woulda thunk that the voltage would have been greater with what Grum shows in winding ratios? I would expect V in to be V out if I had just seen the setup before seeing measurements. So what might more cores and coils do? ;D Would anyone expect a 1to1 ratio with 3 cores and 4 coils? Would anyone expect no more V out than Grum has shown with just 2 cores and 3 coils???? ;) Any explanations of why out V is greater than in V??

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 11, 2014, 12:16:27 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 10, 2014, 11:30:44 PM
Above all, the fact that the out V is greater than the in V is the interesting part. it does seem to be a 1to1 ratio. And it is simple AC in AC out. Now if it were pulsed or square in, then I wouldnt be so surprised. Makes me wana do 3 cores with 4 coils. lol Hey, who woulda thunk that the voltage would have been greater with what Grum shows in winding ratios? I would expect V in to be V out if I had just seen the setup before seeing measurements. So what might more cores and coils do? ;D Would anyone expect a 1to1 ratio with 3 cores and 4 coils? Would anyone expect no more V out than Grum has shown with just 2 cores and 3 coils? ??? ;) Any explanations of why out V is greater than in V??

Mags

Well, that is basic also, the V out is not only depending on turn but on type of core and how it was wound in the core. etc, and some other efficiencies to make the volts greater. :D
and i believe that by adding magnet we can gain additional voltage. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 11, 2014, 02:30:05 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 11, 2014, 12:16:27 AM

Well, that is basic also, the V out is not only depending on turn but on type of core and how it was wound in the core. etc, and some other efficiencies to make the volts greater. :D
and i believe that by adding magnet we can gain additional voltage. :D

Using magnet as spacer instead of paper in the center of my two e cores proves ur point oooooh hhahhh yun un
I have a vintage scope and its just a matter of time before I can make a handle ot it thanks Bruce

.96 milliwatt output 7 x 5 w 220 v ac load 100214 yt
Tito when can you show us ur YT link
:) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P TADO RIP

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 11, 2014, 07:06:15 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 10, 2014, 06:18:20 PM

Forest: Do you have a link?

I think this is what Forest was referring too.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 11, 2014, 08:00:10 AM

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on February 10, 2014, 10:42:10 PM
Hi Grum,

Listen, i play with toroids and windings more than any could imagine. I have seen and produced things that I could not always expect. But the point I was trying to make is never measure open circuited voltage. It so varieswith capacitance.

Also you gave no input nor output current. Always use a resistor or load for proper measuring. Open circuited voltage is too affected by capacitance.

that is my suggestion.

Redo your test with input voltage and current and place a 10 ohm resistor across the load. That was my point.

Capacitance fools.

Cheers,

Bruce

Dear Bruce.

Many thanks for your reply.

I am very well aware that open circuit tests can be fooled but in this case the output WAS loaded with a 20 W 12 V Halogen bulb and the output voltage was still greater than the input !!

That aside your comments have been noted and understood. I was also pleased that you presented yourself in a Gentlemanly fashion, not ridiculing us "Greenhorns", as I feel that constructive criticism can lead to a greater understanding of an area for which I personally don't have a great deal of knowledge in !!

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 11, 2014, 08:19:29 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 11, 2014, 02:30:05 AM
Using magnet as spacer instead of paper in the center of my two e cores proves ur point oooooh hhahhh yun un
I have a vintage scope and its just a matter of time before I can make a handle ot it thanks Bruce

.96 milliwatt output 7 x 5 w 220 v ac load 100214 yt
Tito when can you show us ur YT link
:) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P TADO RIP

Kung type mo ang pag gamit ng magnet, well, may nabibiling magnetic tape subukan mo baka mas may effect. ;) 8)

Dow worry my scandal will coming very soon. ;D :o :o :o

Pag nasa bingit ka ng kamatayan wag kang TARANTADO baka ma RIP karen ;D ;D :o :o

its okay to panic but don't panic. ;D :o :-\ >:( :-[

TARAN ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 11, 2014, 09:08:16 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 10, 2014, 11:30:44 PM
Above all, the fact that the out V is greater than the in V is the interesting part. it does seem to be a 1to1 ratio. And it is simple AC in AC out. Now if it were pulsed or square in, then I wouldnt be so surprised. Makes me wana do 3 cores with 4 coils. lol Hey, who woulda thunk that the voltage would have been greater with what Grum shows in winding ratios? I would expect V in to be V out if I had just seen the setup before seeing measurements. So what might more cores and coils do? ;D Would anyone expect a 1to1 ratio with 3 cores and 4 coils? Would anyone expect no more V out than Grum has shown with just 2 cores and 3 coils???? ;) Any explanations of why out V is greater than in V??

Mags

Dear Mags.

Maybe this will whet your appetite ?? :)

I did this last year. 8 V p/p Sinus in 160 V p/p out (at resonance) Note 90 deg phase shift !! NO load dear Bruce !! :)

However T-1000 told me I had not got the winding quite correct. ;) Smacks of Don Smith ?? ;)

Needs further investigation ?? ;)

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 11, 2014, 09:51:43 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 11, 2014, 08:19:29 AM
Kung type mo ang pag gamit ng magnet, well, may nabibiling magnetic tape subukan mo baka mas may effect. ;) 8)

Dow worry my scandal will coming very soon. ;D :o :o :o Uulitin daw uli ni Cedric Shaolin naman bodyguard to play with ur tits ;D

Pag nasa bingit ka ng kamatayan wag kang TARANTADO baka ma RIP karen ;D ;D :o :o

its okay to panic but don't panic. ;D :o :-\ >:( :-[

TARAN ;D

hehehehheh
I have 1000 pcs microwave oven magnet gusto mo :o d na uso yung vhs cassette at V8 tape ng jeep kapanahunan mo pa yun :-*
buti n lang may clone flappy bird 8) 8) 8) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 11, 2014, 10:17:21 AM

Dear Loner.

Thank you for that coherent and very understandable reply to the recent posts. Good luck with your future experiments !! :)

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 11, 2014, 12:28:00 PM

Quote from: DilJalaay on January 25, 2014, 10:54:05 AM
Hello Tito Sir,

Are you going to delete your posts or not, as i am reading your old posts, and i am v v very much close to your secrets, then i will tongue you :P (just joking sir). You are my much favorite teacher sir, i love your way of teaching, and much respecting you.

My questions, are you still using battery as a source for your device?

2nd can we make an other kick on a kick? double kick on single input?

Is your 1st schematic is still valid or workable or you have an other better method? (attached)

Regards,
D.J

just found imhotep relay charger 4.7 uf 50 v and 100 ohm resistor to protect the contact :) ;) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on February 11, 2014, 05:31:03 PM

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 11, 2014, 06:06:34 PM

bifilar primary with bemf recovery

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 11, 2014, 10:59:14 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on February 11, 2014, 06:06:34 PM
bifilar primary with bemf recovery

Hello Dave,
It looks similar to me.
What is the special with your circuit?

Regs,
D.J

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 11, 2014, 11:35:52 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 10, 2014, 06:18:20 PM

Forest: Do you have a link?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 11, 2014, 11:49:05 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 11, 2014, 09:51:43 AM
hehehehheh
I have 1000 pcs microwave oven magnet gusto mo :o d na uso yung vhs cassette at V8 tape ng jeep kapanahunan mo pa yun :-*
buti n lang may clone flappy bird 8) 8) 8) 8)

Hindi ako nagbibiro pre meron talagang nabibili sa national bookstore na parang tape na pinulupot mga 1/8 cm an taba nya.

hindi yung sa vhs cassette at v8 na sing edad nyo dito. ;D [size=78%] [/size]

and for your information i'm just 14 years old :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 12, 2014, 12:44:49 AM

Totoalas: Is this the circuit you are referring to?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 12, 2014, 02:17:25 AM

Yes, frame 9

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 12, 2014, 02:33:05 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 11, 2014, 11:49:05 PM

and for your information i'm just 14 years old :P

Maniwala ako sayo. :P

Pasilip lang :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2014, 03:57:35 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on February 12, 2014, 02:33:05 AM
Maniwala ako sayo. :P

Pasilip lang :D

oo naman! :o makikita naman yan sa amoy ah ??? :-\

wag na silip amoy nalaang ;D mahal kase e ;D ;D ;D ;D lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 12, 2014, 04:04:00 AM

, ay may pinag-aralan at ginagamit Ingles >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2014, 04:05:43 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 12, 2014, 12:44:49 AM
Totoalas: Is this the circuit you are referring to?

Yes you got it :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2014, 04:40:21 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2014, 03:57:35 AM

oo naman! :o makikita naman yan sa amoy ah ??? :-\

wag na silip amoy nalaang ;D mahal kase e ;D ;D ;D ;D lol

Infinity lighting loop back system .yt premiere night as in scorpio night otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 12, 2014, 05:15:14 AM

Quote from: DilJalaay on February 11, 2014, 10:59:14 PM

Hello Dave,
It looks similar to me.
What is the special with your circuit?

Regs,
D.J

The diode releases the reactive power, this primary will ring like a bell, it works like a pendulum.
I didnt discover it V8carlos did, I just seen how it works and put it in a low voltage circuit, bring this into resonance with a secondary, you wont be disappointed.

Disclaimer: ;D I have not tested it yet.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2014, 05:57:19 AM

This is the man!!!! :D ;) :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FxJkQ3mJ3I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FxJkQ3mJ3I)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTLLnUOPOQk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTLLnUOPOQk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdhDq-FmM38 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdhDq-FmM38)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX7cTJjqomg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX7cTJjqomg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rRjUJsjCXc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rRjUJsjCXc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0Thb8nODU4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0Thb8nODU4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COP-gEVvaW8&list=PL2C537FF2BF0A03D8

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2014, 06:04:09 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2014, 05:57:19 AM
This is the man!!!! :D ;) :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FxJkQ3mJ3I

Mangangalay at pigsa .sa kill kili abutin so tiring and arm pit sore can be reach

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 12, 2014, 06:40:32 AM

How it works, the colors are there to show polarity
The first two diodes act as rectification and blocking diodes, after more consideration all three do actually.
The first half cycle is a neg pulse its bemf will be pos
The second half cycle is a pos pulse its bemf will be neg
This should remove and recover the reactive power, keeping the coil from fighting itself.
A pendulum without the capacitor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 12, 2014, 11:23:50 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0Thb8nODU4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0Thb8nODU4)

Tito I want one! Do you have a link where I can buy this model online??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2014, 12:10:56 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 12, 2014, 11:23:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0Thb8nODU4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0Thb8nODU4)

Tito I want one! Do you have a link where I can buy this model online??

This is china made fan and the bike is hercules brand
Micro wind generator from aquarium pump try it

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 12, 2014, 02:01:06 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 12, 2014, 12:10:56 PM
This is china made fan and the bike is hercules brand
Micro wind generator from aquarium pump try it

It's the specific model I am seeking, because it is cheap and converts to a generator.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2014, 04:35:12 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 12, 2014, 02:01:06 PM
It's the specific model I am seeking, because it is cheap and converts to a generator.

its common in the market here in china just like a toy two sizes 12 inches and 24 inches 220 v ac model

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 12, 2014, 04:55:37 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 12, 2014, 04:35:12 PM
its common in the market here in china just like a toy two sizes 12 inches and 24 inches 220 v ac model

Thanks, I've located a supplier from China on Alibaba.com. They are completely unheard of in the UK.
Obviously I am interested in the generator aspect of these devices.

On another note: I like your bug zapper design and think I understand the principle. ANy chance of a photo?
BTW your original diagram was 1.3 meg. I imported it into paint and saved it as a jpeg so I could post it here.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2014, 05:05:24 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 12, 2014, 04:55:37 PM

Thanks, I've located a supplier from China on Alibaba.com. They are completely unheard of in the UK.
Obviously I am interested in the generator aspect of these devices.

On another note: I like your bug zapper design and think I understand the principle. ANy chance of a photo?
BTW your original diagram was 1.3 meg. I imported it into paint and saved it as a jpeg so I could post it here. No pics dismatled already Energy amplification Just simplify and amplify yt check it ou yo 8)
8)

Ill open up into public the video :) Thomas kim yt videos had lots of variations

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 12, 2014, 06:03:44 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 12, 2014, 11:23:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0Thb8nODU4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0Thb8nODU4)

Tito I want one! Do you have a link where I can buy this model online??

This is a good generator, an ac type motor that has very thin windings for 220vac, one coil only wound on a round bobbin and sandwhiched with toothed metal sheet, small magnets go around north & south fashionh, i've modified one, and i found that it speeds up under load! :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2014, 06:06:49 PM

Actually even the magbabalot here in the philippines are selling fan like that, my problem is how can i connect everyone to the magbabalot? :'( :-\ ??? :D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 12, 2014, 06:25:37 PM

Lol...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 12, 2014, 06:38:48 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2014, 06:06:49 PM
Actually even the magbabalot here in the philippines are selling fan like that, my problem is how can i connect everyone to the magbabalot? :'( :-\ ??? :D ;D CHAU FAN (FRIED RICE)

How about a windless generator when no wind 2 coils drive the rotor from charged battery
ala Dadhav style

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 12, 2014, 06:55:31 PM

I put ac pump in my wifes car a couple of weeks ago and had to remove the cooling fan, I noticed the fan spun like it had permanent magnets in it not sure but would be worth checking, it spun by hand very easy but choppy like it was passing magnets.

http://www.1aauto.com/1A/RadiatorFanAssemblies/Ford/Taurus/1ARFA00016/149414-2005?utm_campaign=gb_csv_br&utm_content=RFA&gclid=CLf_xeDkx7wCFUcV7AodmzMAMg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 12, 2014, 07:34:59 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on February 12, 2014, 06:55:31 PM
I put ac pump in my wifes car a couple of weeks ago and had to remove the cooling fan, I noticed the fan spun like it had permanent magnets in it not sure but would be worth checking, it spun by hand very easy but choppy like it was passing magnets.

http://www.1aauto.com/1A/RadiatorFanAssemblies/Ford/Taurus/1ARFA00016/149414-2005?utm_campaign=gb_csv_br&utm_content=RFA&gclid=CLf_xeDkx7wCFUcV7AodmzMAMg (http://www.1aauto.com/1A/RadiatorFanAssemblies/Ford/Taurus/1ARFA00016/149414-2005?utm_campaign=gb_csv_br&utm_content=RFA&gclid=CLf_xeDkx7wCFUcV7AodmzMAMg)

Yes, most all electric cooling fans in vehicles are DC permanent mag motors. The flat pancake looking fan motors have a flat rotor and a single ring mag with alternating poles. Took me a while to figure out how it worked. It is basically a redesign of a Faraday dynamo with wire instead of copper disk, and the wires are all in series. They zigzag from the center to the circumference around 2 times to the commutator contact points. very cool motor. Works as a gen also, most all car fan motors do.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 12, 2014, 07:57:38 PM

What interested me is the spec:
Mains voltage, 12 watts, 300 rpm, less than 2 dollars....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 12, 2014, 09:00:23 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 12, 2014, 07:57:38 PM
What interested me is the spec:
Mains voltage, 12 watts, 300 rpm, less than 2 dollars....

Here I have my rendition of Lasersabers EZ spin motor running just a straight 1/4 in plexi blade 1 1/2in wide 12in long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7JY6H-XfWw&feature=youtu.be

The radioshack inverter is giving the motor 160v and draws .5ma at top speed. About 80mw at 350 rpm. Now, admittedly, the blade is straight, but 80 mw? ;)

Anyways, seems pretty efficient being the coils in series are 15kohm. Resistance doesnt seem to be a loss here, Hmm. ??? ;D

Did this vid around the time I posted the other vids on this motor, just never posted it.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 12, 2014, 09:08:34 PM

Just recently ran the motor with just 3 coils in series, just under 2kohm, about 1.5w, 1800rpm. It pulls the voltage in the cap from the inverter down to 30v, but that lil inverter still keeps going. Tough lil bugger for 10 bucks and 2 AA.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 12, 2014, 10:16:43 PM

Just did some calculations. A blue led from Radioshack 3.5v forward, 30ma is 105mw. lol So the motor you see running in my vid is running at 80mw. Now thats funny. ;D

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12582714

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: penno64 on February 13, 2014, 01:34:46 AM

@totoalas

what do you infinite ?

Penno

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 13, 2014, 02:08:44 AM

Quote from: penno64 on February 13, 2014, 01:34:46 AM
@totoalas

what do you infinite ?

Penno

IDEA :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: penno64 on February 13, 2014, 02:26:03 AM

@totoalas

is this yours ?

what is infinitum?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOVlX0OpUZU&list=UUmm3mFVrGugatUp8Obobuww&feature=c4-overview

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 13, 2014, 03:44:55 AM

Quote from: penno64 on February 13, 2014, 02:26:03 AM
@totoalas

is this yours ?

what is infinitum? Latin word as in Infinity speakers
How about yours penno ?????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOVlX0OpUZU&list=UUmm3mFVrGugatUp8Obobuww&feature=c4-overview

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on February 13, 2014, 03:50:46 AM

Quote from: penno64 on February 13, 2014, 02:26:03 AM
@totoalas

is this yours ?

what is infinitum?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOVlX0OpUZU&list=UUmm3mFVrGugatUp8Obobuww&feature=c4-overview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOVlX0OpUZU&list=UUmm3mFVrGugatUp8Obobuww&feature=c4-overview)

Classic! He's got it all!

A catchy name, check.
A rat's nest of colored clipleads, check.
Some cheap DMMs, check.
A bank of lights, check.
A spinny thing, check.
And... the coup de grace.... a power supply _and_ a battery !!!

I expect Stefan to be awarding the OU Prize to Infinitum at any moment.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 13, 2014, 04:12:01 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 13, 2014, 03:50:46 AM
Classic! He's got it all!

A catchy name, check.
A rat's nest of colored clipleads, check.
Some cheap DMMs, check.
A bank of lights, check.
A spinny thing, check.
Quote from: TinselKoala on February 13, 2014, 03:50:46 AM
Classic! He's got it all!

A catchy name, check.
A rat's nest of colored clipleads, check.
Some cheap DMMs, check.
A bank of lights, check.
A spinny thing, check.
And... the coup de grace.... a power supply _and_ a battery !!!

I expect Stefan to be awarding the OU Prize to Infinitum at any moment.

And... the coup de grace.... a power supply _and_ a battery !!!
Thanks for the nice comments and i have high respect for all
Just want to experiment invest in hard earned time and money without asking in return
This is a learrning ecperience from you tech gurus

I expect Stefan to be awarding the OU Prize to Infinitum at any moment.

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 13, 2014, 03:50:46 AM
Classic! He's got it all!

A catchy name, check.
A rat's nest of colored clipleads, check.
Some cheap DMMs, check.
A bank of lights, check.
A spinny thing, check.
And... the coup de grace.... a power supply _and_ a battery !!!

I expect Stefan to be awarding the OU Prize to Infinitum at any moment.

the glory should be yours i think u need it more than I Do
No offence ive just startef 3 yrs ago as a newbie and elevtronics while I envy you ad a Hero member salute to that

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2014, 04:15:21 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 12, 2014, 06:38:48 PM
How about a windless generator when no wind 2 coils drive the rotor from charged battery
ala Dadhav style

How about no coils no generator no driving with liquor just battery? :o ;D ;D ;D ??? :-\ :-\ ??? :P no chau chau. lol ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 13, 2014, 04:20:00 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2014, 04:15:21 AM

How about no coils no generator no driving with liquor just battery? :o ;D ;D ;D ??? :-\ :-\ ??? :P no chau chau

Hihihi iihi n ko
Then its your ou maching
Will try ur 1st ckt hopefully this weekend any more tips as we are strolling in the park again
:) :) :D ;D :o 8)how long is long to get near

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2014, 04:39:48 AM

walang kwenta yung 1st circuit ko pre. mas mabute kung ang gawin ay yung kay moray.

yun talaga ang maganda. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 13, 2014, 04:58:15 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2014, 04:39:48 AM
walang kwenta yung 1st circuit ko pre. mas mabute kung ang gawin ay yung kay moray.
Thank you Braveheart which one can u guhit it Valentits ;D

yun talaga ang maganda. :)

gusto ko happy ka H
HAPpy Valentin a aka galema
Almora nas >:( :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2014, 05:06:50 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 13, 2014, 04:58:15 AM
gusto ko happy ka H
HAPpy Valentin a aka galema
Almora nas >:( :D

varemoid boss.

e gamot sa bukol meron ka? :o

hapPy VaLeNtoLas ;D ti2

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 13, 2014, 05:21:20 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2014, 05:06:50 AM

varemoid boss.

e gamot sa bukol meron ka? :o piso slang katapat Ryan idiin mo

hapPy VaLeNtoLas ;D ti2 urge noty bawal
Lang sad

Kapusoy 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 13, 2014, 06:45:56 AM

Quote from: penno64 on February 13, 2014, 02:26:03 AM
@totoalas

is this yours ?

what is infinitum?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOVlX0OpUZU&list=UUmm3mFVrGugatUp8Obobuww&feature=c4-overview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOVlX0OpUZU&list=UUmm3mFVrGugatUp8Obobuww&feature=c4-overview)

@totoalas

waooo gr8 :o :o :o :o :o :o .... weldone.

Could you please post a clear diagram.

::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 13, 2014, 06:48:28 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 12, 2014, 10:16:43 PM
Just did some calculations. A blue led from Radioshack 3.5v forward, 30ma is 105mw. lol So the motor you see running in my vid is running at 80mw. Now thats funny. ;D

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12582714 (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12582714)

Mags

Nice setup, how did you make your rotor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 13, 2014, 08:19:14 AM

Quote from: DilJalaay on February 13, 2014, 06:45:56 AM

@totoalas

waooo gr8 :o :o :o :o :o :o .... weldone.

Could you please post a clear diagram.
Its you who re posted titos circuit first one
I just replaced the relay and transformer with batterywith an sg motor
Nothing special
So thank you for reminding me and gud luck

::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 13, 2014, 08:40:27 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 12, 2014, 09:00:23 PM
...

Anyways, seems pretty efficient being the coils in series are 15kohm. Resistance doesnt seem to be a loss here, Hmm. ??? ;D

...

Hi Mags,

Very good build and indeed efficient. Speaking of resistance, for motors it is the AmperTurns which counts first, then consider the 'copper loss' with the 0.5 mA current and the 15 kOhm, it gives only 3.75 mW loss, a low number with respect to the 80 mW input draw. However if you think of utilizing any energy from the collapsing field, then the 15 kOhm is 'in the way' and can cause 'precious' loss.
Thanks for showing the video.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 13, 2014, 08:49:52 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 12, 2014, 09:00:23 PM
Here I have my rendition of Lasersabers EZ spin motor running just a straight 1/4 in plexi blade 1 1/2in wide 12in long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7JY6H-XfWw&feature=youtu.be

The radioshack inverter is giving the motor 160v and draws .5ma at top speed. About 80mw at 350 rpm. Now, admittedly, the blade is straight, but 80 mw? ;)

Anyways, seems pretty efficient being the coils in series are 15kohm. Resistance doesnt seem to be a loss here, Hmm. ??? ;D

Did this vid around the time I posted the other vids on this motor, just never posted it.

Mags

Dear Mags.

I felt compelled to compliment you on the build quality of your motor !! :) It is a credit to you.

This was the first time I had seen your motor as I never got much encouragement from the tests I carried out with these types of devices. keeping a motor ( Window Coil ) running continuously for 3 months was ok !! The drive battery never went flat but that was about it !! You can't heat a house from it !! :)

Keep up the good work.

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 13, 2014, 09:12:44 AM

Totoalas: Could you explain how your flybacks are connected please.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 13, 2014, 09:14:44 AM

Totoalas: Is it possible to loop back your system? ie to charge the flyswatter battery

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 13, 2014, 09:20:08 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 13, 2014, 09:14:44 AM
Totoalas: Is it possible to loop back your system? ie to charge the flyswatter battery

I think yes with a good one pass the hv to step down to the 4.5 v level
the spark is coming from the output of coil and ground the internal coils are in series connection with an no contact relay :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 13, 2014, 09:51:59 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 13, 2014, 09:20:08 AM
I think yes with a good one pass the hv to step down to the 4.5 v level
the spark is coming from the output of coil and ground the internal coils are in series connection with an no contact relay :)

Thank you for the clarification.
Have you tried lighting cfl bulbs? I don't have any mains led bulbs.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 13, 2014, 10:00:04 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 13, 2014, 09:51:59 AM

Thank you for the clarification.
Have you tried lighting cfl bulbs? I don't have any mains led bulbs.

cfl yes but not so bright with hv

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2014, 05:00:41 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD_Bwwvlc3I
;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 13, 2014, 05:45:53 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2014, 05:00:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD_Bwwvlc3I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD_Bwwvlc3I)
;)

anyare aga gising Hi blood n b akala ko link mo na bum 8) bay boses mo bossing???? ;D
Ang pussso wag kalimutang tumibok at baka kunin na ni Lord
Patawad
HAPPY BDAY AND VALENTINES TO UR SWEETIE NO'S 1 2 3

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on February 13, 2014, 06:11:20 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2014, 05:00:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD_Bwwvlc3I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD_Bwwvlc3I)
;)

At last! Tito is going to build something and demonstrate the truth of his claims! A simple "self powering" circuit containing a 555 timer... that should only take him half an hour to put together, another half hour to measure and document on video. So, adding in some upload time, in a couple of hours we'll be seeing Tito's own video illustrating the actual device _running itself_ , rather than this simulation. Right?

Riiiiiight.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 13, 2014, 09:14:11 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 13, 2014, 08:40:27 AM
Hi Mags,

Very good build and indeed efficient. Speaking of resistance, for motors it is the AmperTurns which counts first, then consider the 'copper loss' with the 0.5 mA current and the 15 kOhm, it gives only 3.75 mW loss, a low number with respect to the 80 mW input draw. However if you think of utilizing any energy from the collapsing field, then the 15 kOhm is 'in the way' and can cause 'precious' loss.
Thanks for showing the video.

Gyula

Hey Gyula

Ampere turns. Lets consider my coils. The bobbins are .7in dia, 1/8in deep and the core post(plastic) is 1/8in. So some turns are lengths of wire that are say 3.14/8 in and the outer turn wires are 2.198in in legnth. So, is it to say that the inner turns put out equal amount of flux as the outer turns? Or does it end up being an average thing?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2014, 09:35:16 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 13, 2014, 06:11:20 PM
At last! Tito is going to build something and demonstrate the truth of his claims! A simple "self powering" circuit containing a 555 timer... that should only take him half an hour to put together, another half hour to measure and document on video. So, adding in some upload time, in a couple of hours we'll be seeing Tito's own video illustrating the actual device _running itself_ , rather than this simulation. Right?

Riiiiiight.

Wrong!!! >:( ;D

My scandal is much excited than that one promise.!!! ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2014, 09:43:18 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 13, 2014, 05:45:53 PM
anyare aga gising Hi blood n b akala ko link mo na bum 8) bay boses mo bossing? ??? ;D
Ang pussso wag kalimutang tumibok at baka kunin na ni Lord
Patawad
HAPPY BDAY AND VALENTINES TO UR SWEETIE NO'S 1 2 3

yan ang pinsan ni abiso, tingnan mo man ang pangalan. ??? :-\ ;) :P

at ako tatay nila

basagnabaso ;D natatawa ako hi hi hi hi :D santong kabayo, mukha kang aso hihihihi ;D :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 13, 2014, 09:53:08 PM

Quote from: Grumage on February 13, 2014, 08:49:52 AM
Dear Mags.

I felt compelled to compliment you on the build quality of your motor !! :) It is a credit to you.

This was the first time I had seen your motor as I never got much encouragement from the tests I carried out with these types of devices. keeping a motor ( Window Coil ) running continuously for 3 months was ok !! The drive battery never went flat but that was about it !! You can't heat a house from it !! :)

Keep up the good work.

Cheers Grum.

Ive seen what you are talking about. Are you saying that the motor wasnt capable of doing any appreciable work other than free running?

When I first had all my coils wound, I tested the motor with 1 coil, 2, then 3 and so on. 1 coil had good speed and torque. But much higher input to do so.

But here in my vid, the way I see it, we can see the motor has usable torque and reasonable speed, all with the power that is less than a typ blue led. I suppose we tend to think that leds dont use much running continuously. Even 10 leds seems like a lot of light for the power consumed. But they seem like power hogs to me now,in a way. lol

So what if we had 10 of these motors stacked, 800mw. From what we see in the vid, do you think it could run those fan blades reasonably( the fan in the vid posted 2 pages ago by Aking) ?
That fan runs at 12w, and a 10 stack is .8w. I think it could be equal to better with the 10 stack from having this experience with this motor.

Lasersabers motor was 'running' at 1ua with say 3v. It has some torque, but ran slowly. So his motor, the way he ran it for demo at 1ua, can run for a very very long time. he used a germanium diode in series with his coils but it was reversed. The diode he used has a reverse leakage of 1 ua and was used as a current limiter. He also ran it up to 100v, around there, by charging the cap by spinning the rotor up and generating current to the cap, and the motor sends current to the cap through the diode forward biased. So his motor has the ability to charge the cap from the motor faster than the motor uses current from the cap. Very neat ideas he has.

Laser uses a needle axle with ruby bearings like in a watch mech. I went with hobby shop bearings where I remove the grease thoroughly and worked in graphite. My bearings work really well, but lasers needle is better at reducing axle resistances. But Im thrilled with what Im working with. Lasers motor runs at below 1v, mine at just over 1v or more to run. he is also running larger dia mags, I think 1/2in x 1/8, mine are 3/8in x 3/16. Im making another rotor with the larger mags. It will run better. If they were 1/8 x 1/16, it would be less better. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 13, 2014, 10:20:28 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2014, 09:35:16 PM

Wrong!!! >:( ;D

My scandal is much excited than that one promise.!!! ;D ;D ;D

Tinsel Koala was being sarcastic. By riight he meant wrong. It's an English language thing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 14, 2014, 05:18:33 AM

reactive gen
for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction
opposites attract

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 14, 2014, 06:31:48 PM

;D .

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 14, 2014, 06:52:00 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 14, 2014, 07:49:08 PM

:'(
Haw sweyyyyt

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 14, 2014, 08:42:10 PM

:o ;D :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on February 14, 2014, 09:37:10 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on February 14, 2014, 05:18:33 AM
reactive gen
for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction
opposites attract

I think you might need some sort of capacitance between...
maybe an inductance....
otherwise you're really just in series
and the induction emf is going to be countered by the forced current flow....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 15, 2014, 08:06:06 AM

. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 15, 2014, 09:38:45 AM

I dont think the sim can capture the effect of a bifilar
http://www.falstad.com/circuit/

$ 1 5.0E-6 10.20027730826997 50 5.0 50
v 608 576 720 576 0 1 60.0 10.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
d 720 576 832 576 1 0.805904783
d 512 576 608 576 1 0.805904783
w 512 576 512 480 0
l 544 480 816 480 0 1.0 -2.4732971257228907E-15
w 832 576 832 448 0
w 512 480 544 480 0
w 528 448 528 512 0
w 816 480 816 512 0
d 512 480 512 384 1 0.805904783
d 832 384 832 448 1 0.805904783
w 512 384 512 304 0
w 832 384 832 304 0
l 528 448 832 448 0 1.0 -2.4732953648998776E-15
w 512 192 512 304 0
w 832 192 832 304 0
l 512 192 832 192 0 1.0 0.003160271153033534
c 528 512 816 512 0 9.999999999999999E-6 8.941098621804825
c 512 304 832 304 0 1.0E-5 -0.8816391544519226
o 16 64 0 43 2.5 0.00625 0 -1

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on February 15, 2014, 10:39:08 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on February 15, 2014, 09:38:45 AM
I dont think the sim can capture the effect of a bifilar
http://www.falstad.com/circuit/ (http://www.falstad.com/circuit/)

$ 1 5.0E-6 10.20027730826997 50 5.0 50
v 608 576 720 576 0 1 60.0 10.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
d 720 576 832 576 1 0.805904783
d 512 576 608 576 1 0.805904783
w 512 576 512 480 0
l 544 480 816 480 0 1.0 -2.4732971257228907E-15
w 832 576 832 448 0
w 512 480 544 480 0
w 528 448 528 512 0
w 816 480 816 512 0
d 512 480 512 384 1 0.805904783
d 832 384 832 448 1 0.805904783
w 512 384 512 304 0
w 832 384 832 304 0
l 528 448 832 448 0 1.0 -2.4732953648998776E-15
w 512 192 512 304 0
w 832 192 832 304 0
l 512 192 832 192 0 1.0 0.003160271153033534
c 528 512 816 512 0 9.999999999999999E-6 8.941098621804825
c 512 304 832 304 0 1.0E-5 -0.8816391544519226
o 16 64 0 43 2.5 0.00625 0 -1

You can use a transformer... but other than that arbitrary coupled coils are not supported in falstad

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on February 15, 2014, 01:24:35 PM

@Mags
That is a totally great motor build. Maybe try to run it with some small magnets added behind the coils just to see if the drive pulses can move the magnet fields in a favorable way.

@Grum
I posted a comment on your last "My interpretation youtube".

@All1
I posted this question in a thread started by @Giantkiller at OUR but you have to be a member there to see the thread. @GK wants to keep the thread open to @members only.
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=860.0 (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=860.0)

So I will ask it here as well.....hehehe.

QUOTE: Now let's talk about zener diodes. What happens when you put a 9v zener diode across a 9v battery. Nothing should happen. If the 9v zener received 10 volts it will pass 1 volt so not very useful plus it will eat up 9v and create heat. But if the zener was a 1v rated and received 9v, it will pass 8v. Aha. There is a potential pulse right there. The zener would only eat up 1 volt and pass the rest but how.

If the 1v zener receives 9v, the voltage across the battery should short and the battery voltage should then drop to zero and open the diode until it gets again to 9v. Has anyone ever tried it? UNQUOTE

@All2
I am always amazed when I see guys working on circuits, motor drives, output dioded cap tanks and making youtubes where they have one or more diodes in there and nobody ever says "I had to try 10 diode types to find the best one to make this work". I see circuits with any kind of diode that is arbitrarily used since "a diode is a diode" right, but, unfortunately they are not. I was hoping more guys would have made their own Diode Carousel by now but I guess researchers just love to make their lives as difficult as possible, trying so many builds but always thinking their first diode choice is the best. WTFU guys and start working more seriously. You may just love the results.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj0ShZV6bhY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj0ShZV6bhY)

@All3
So anyways, I finally finished my garage and this has enabled me to make more room in the house and I am in the process of making my office/lab twice the size it is now. So I will soon be back with some more works.
I put my garage time lapse video under my real name here;
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA6T7xOfANBi-onm-9IX8Ow (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA6T7xOfANBi-onm-9IX8Ow)

My final push in the ass for making this garage was when @LaserSaber built his EZ Motor and I was really keen on getting a 3D printer and some other dodads but lack of space was what was holding me back.

2014 is the year of OU. It's time to make the Cabal bend over so they can kiss their own asses goodbye. lol

@Tito

Sorry for posting this on your thread but since this thread is not dealing exactly with Energy Amplification and is more dealing with how to complete a puzzle with 1000 TitoHints, I thought you would not mind.

wattsup

PS: Wow. The TK thread is over 1400 pages. It is about to achieve Bible status.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 15, 2014, 02:19:52 PM

Dear Wattsup.

I have not been ignoring you!! I completely blasted my amplifier module the other day and have been waiting for a new one to arrive. The postman was a welcome sight today, a shiny new 18 W module ripe for slaughter !! :)

The global consciousness must be working overtime at the moment !! a.King21 and I were only last week using Zener Diodes "the wrong way round" trying out the implementation from DilJalaay!!

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg386021/#msg386021

The idea was to use them to leave a residual amount within the capacitor, rather like a syphon !!

I will keep you posted with regards to your suggestion you posted on You Tube !!

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 15, 2014, 04:00:13 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 14, 2014, 06:31:48 PM
;D .

Bifilar coil, caps and diodes. ;)
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2014, 07:00:28 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 13, 2014, 10:20:28 PM

Tinsel Koala was being sarcastic. By riight he meant wrong. It's an English language thing.

i was suppose to share a two important video but because of the post of tinsel koala then i change my mind. >:(

First of all i am not getting anything here okay, i just want to share videos :(

sorry, i feel so insulted again buddy. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2014, 07:11:46 PM

Quote from: wattsup on February 15, 2014, 01:24:35 PM
@Mags
That is a totally great motor build. Maybe try to run it with some small magnets added behind the coils just to see if the drive pulses can move the magnet fields in a favorable way.

@Grum
I posted a comment on your last "My interpretation youtube".

@All1
I posted this question in a thread started by @Giantkiller at OUR but you have to be a member there to see the thread. @GK wants to keep the thread open to @members only.
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=860.0 (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=860.0)

So I will ask it here as well.....hehehe.

QUOTE: Now let's talk about zener diodes. What happens when you put a 9v zener diode across a 9v battery. Nothing should happen. If the 9v zener received 10 volts it will pass 1 volt so not very useful plus it will eat up 9v and create heat. But if the zener was a 1v rated and received 9v, it will pass 8v. Aha. There is a potential pulse right there. The zener would only eat up 1 volt and pass the rest but how.

If the 1v zener receives 9v, the voltage across the battery should short and the battery voltage should then drop to zero and open the diode until it gets again to 9v. Has anyone ever tried it? UNQUOTE

@All2
I am always amazed when I see guys working on circuits, motor drives, output dioded cap tanks and making youtubes where they have one or more diodes in there and nobody ever says "I had to try 10 diode types to find the best one to make this work". I see circuits with any kind of diode that is arbitrarily used since "a diode is a diode" right, but, unfortunately they are not. I was hoping more guys would have made their own Diode Carousel by now but I guess researchers just love to make their lives as difficult as possible, trying so many builds but always thinking their first diode choice is the best. WTFU guys and start working more seriously. You may just love the results.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj0ShZV6bhY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj0ShZV6bhY)

@All3
So anyways, I finally finished my garage and this has enabled me to make more room in the house and I am in the process of making my office/lab twice the size it is now. So I will soon be back with some more works.
I put my garage time lapse video under my real name here;
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA6T7xOfANBi-onm-9IX8Ow (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA6T7xOfANBi-onm-9IX8Ow)

My final push in the ass for making this garage was when @LaserSaber built his EZ Motor and I was really keen on getting a 3D printer and some other dodads but lack of space was what was holding me back.

2014 is the year of OU. It's time to make the Cabal bend over so they can kiss their own asses goodbye. lol

@Tito

Sorry for posting this on your thread but since this thread is not dealing exactly with Energy Amplification and is more dealing with how to complete a puzzle with 1000 TitoHints, I thought you would not mind.

wattsup

PS: Wow. The TK thread is over 1400 pages. It is about to achieve Bible status.

Well, it hurts a little :D but still my respect is with you sir and i honor that, and you are the most welcome here in my thread. ;)

otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 15, 2014, 07:21:19 PM

Look into ion generators, static neutralization, cloud busting

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 15, 2014, 07:27:49 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2014, 07:11:46 PM

Well, it hurts a little :D but still my respect is with you sir and i honor that, and you are the most welcome here in my thread. ;)

otits

Well Tito do we really need 1000 more pages
Just spent 1500 RMB on parts hoping to have an OU someday somehow from my previous 2 square feet lab down to 1 square feet so how I wish upon a rising star with thos have and have nots
Sir Watts up please light us the road instead of a riddle tito is too much for 3 yrs already joke only
Kidding aside
give us what u want A SKETCH IDEA ANYTHING UNDER THE SUN
as this is IS A FREE COUNTRY ( FORUM) WE CAN DO WHAT WE WANT YEAH :) ;) :D :o 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 15, 2014, 08:01:34 PM

http://alfin2100.blogspot.com/2011/01/metro-system-scientists-used-ionisers.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 15, 2014, 08:15:18 PM

Quote from: wattsup on February 15, 2014, 01:24:35 PM
@Mags
That is a totally great motor build. Maybe try to run it with some small magnets added behind the coils just to see if the drive pulses can move the magnet fields in a favorable way.

@Grum
I posted a comment on your last "My interpretation youtube".

@All1
I posted this question in a thread started by @Giantkiller at OUR but you have to be a member there to see the thread. @GK wants to keep the thread open to @members only.
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=860.0 (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=860.0)

So I will ask it here as well.....hehehe.

QUOTE: Now let's talk about zener diodes. What happens when you put a 9v zener diode across a 9v battery. Nothing should happen. If the 9v zener received 10 volts it will pass 1 volt so not very useful plus it will eat up 9v and create heat. But if the zener was a 1v rated and received 9v, it will pass 8v. Aha. There is a potential pulse right there. The zener would only eat up 1 volt and pass the rest but how.

If the 1v zener receives 9v, the voltage across the battery should short and the battery voltage should then drop to zero and open the diode until it gets again to 9v. Has anyone ever tried it? UNQUOTE

@All2
I am always amazed when I see guys working on circuits, motor drives, output dioded cap tanks and making youtubes where they have one or more diodes in there and nobody ever says "I had to try 10 diode types to find the best one to make this work". I see circuits with any kind of diode that is arbitrarily used since "a diode is a diode" right, but, unfortunately they are not. I was hoping more guys would have made their own Diode Carousel by now but I guess researchers just love to make their lives as difficult as possible, trying so many builds but always thinking their first diode choice is the best. WTFU guys and start working more seriously. You may just love the results.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj0ShZV6bhY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj0ShZV6bhY)

@All3
So anyways, I finally finished my garage and this has enabled me to make more room in the house and I am in the process of making my office/lab twice the size it is now. So I will soon be back with some more works.
I put my garage time lapse video under my real name here;
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA6T7xOfANBi-onm-9IX8Ow (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA6T7xOfANBi-onm-9IX8Ow)

My final push in the ass for making this garage was when @LaserSaber built his EZ Motor and I was really keen on getting a 3D printer and some other dodads but lack of space was what was holding me back.

2014 is the year of OU. It's time to make the Cabal bend over so they can kiss their own asses goodbye. lol

@Tito

Sorry for posting this on your thread but since this thread is not dealing exactly with Energy Amplification and is more dealing with how to complete a puzzle with 1000 TitoHints, I thought you would not mind.

wattsup

PS: Wow. The TK thread is over 1400 pages. It is about to achieve Bible status.

Thanks for sharing!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on February 15, 2014, 09:11:04 PM

Wattsup:

QuoteNow let's talk about zener diodes. What happens when you put a 9v zener diode across a 9v battery. Nothing should happen. If the 9v zener received 10 volts it will pass 1 volt so not very useful plus it will eat up 9v and create heat. But if the zener was a 1v rated and received 9v, it will pass 8v. Aha. There is a potential pulse right there. The zener would only eat up 1 volt and pass the rest but how.

If the 1v zener receives 9v, the voltage across the battery should short and the battery voltage should then drop to zero and open the diode until it gets again to 9v. Has anyone ever tried it?

This to me is frustrating because most of what you say above doesn't even make any sense. Other people have thanked you for this contribution so they don't know themselves.

All that I can do is advise you and others to task yourselves learn about electronics. If I can suggest a task for you and others on the thread, it would be to modify and correct what is said so that it does make sense. Basic question for all: What is wrong with the statements above?

How do you guys expect to research free energy with electronic circuits if you don't understand the basics of electronics? It just doesn't make any sense.

Sorry for the rant, but from one year to the next year one would hope that people would try to improve themselves with respect to what they are interested in. This type of situation is taken advantage of all the time by the con artists.

MileHigh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on February 15, 2014, 11:27:41 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 15, 2014, 07:00:28 PM

i was suppose to share a two important video but because of the post of tinsel koala then i change my mind. >:(

First of all i am not getting anything here okay, i just want to share videos :(

sorry, i feel so insulted again buddy. :(

Picklefinickle got food poisoning at the China Palace!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on February 15, 2014, 11:38:53 PM

Quote from: MileHigh on February 15, 2014, 09:11:04 PM
Wattsup:

This to me is frustrating because most of what you say above doesn't even make any sense. Other people have thanked you for this contribution so they don't know themselves.

All that I can do is advise you and others to task yourselves learn about electronics. If I can suggest a task for you and others on the thread, it would be to modify and correct what is said so that it does make sense. Basic question for all: What is wrong with the statements above?

How do you guys expect to research free energy with electronic circuits if you don't understand the basics of electronics? It just doesn't make any sense.

Sorry for the rant, but from one year to the next year one would hope that people would try to improve themselves with respect to what they are interested in. This type of situation is taken advantage of all the time by the con artists.

MileHigh

A Zener diode is a diode (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diode) which allows current to flow in the forward direction in the same manner as an ideal diode, but also permits it to flow in the reverse direction when the voltage is above a certain value known as the breakdown voltage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakdown_voltage), "zener knee voltage", "zener voltage", "avalanche point", or "peak inverse voltage".

That's minus two thousand pounds of Milehigh hot air!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 16, 2014, 04:03:57 AM

capacitor is the source of big pressure....bum! I burned another precious 260A 600V mosfet :-X , Tesla method is not the best :-X :-X :-X it's TOO COSTLY :-X :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D ;D
now, could anybody tell me what is the problem of using capacitor to power a fridge ? ramset ? ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 16, 2014, 06:23:45 AM

Guy's its about ionization
High voltage electrodes create a ion cloud, that cloud is either pos or neg, you need both.
Alternating current has a pos and neg pulse, Direct current is just a negative pulse, to use DC you have to use the bemf to get the pos side but using AC you already have both.
If the electrodes are in close proximity they will cancel each other but if seperated you can collect from them.

A magnetic field in and of itself has no charge but the electric field is attracted to the magnetic field so you can use the magnetic field to grab the charges.
Opposites attract so if your coil is charged with a neg pulse the ion cloud around that coil will be pos and when the magnetic field collapses it will bring a pos charge with it, and likewise when the pos pulsed coil is charged pos its ion cloud will be neg and its magnetic field will bring in a neg charge when it collapses.

We need both to create free energy
What was Moray using an ion valve ;) I think he named it that for a reason.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 16, 2014, 07:18:01 AM

The aether for the most part is in a neutral state, in other words there are two particle neg an pos when combined become neutral but ionization seperates the particles, it pulls them apart, we have to separate them to us them.

A low voltage system will have a low ion cloud around it but we can create a high voltage ion field and we can do it for milliamps then us a low voltage system to collect.

Kapanadze is using a Tesla coil under his windings to ionize each end of the coil one end pos and the other neg then using a low frequency low voltage system to collect the ions, both pos and neg.
The spark gap is not part of the collection circuit its the breakover point of the ionization coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 16, 2014, 07:56:38 AM

L1 receives a neg pulse its bemf will be pos E1 is neg so it has a pos ion cloud waiting to be collected.

L2 receives a pos pulse its bemf will be neg E2 is pos so it has a neg ion cloud waiting to be collected.

Separate
Collect

The guy from Russia said compare and collect, its the language barrier he meant separate and collect.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 16, 2014, 08:27:34 AM

The aether seeks neutral, if it didnt we couldnt live on this planet.
Opposites attract and become neutral
Separate and collect

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 16, 2014, 09:37:01 AM

Tito: Tinsel Koala upsets everyone. It's his job.
You should feel Honored!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 16, 2014, 01:20:47 PM

http://youtu.be/0teVVj80m40 (http://youtu.be/0teVVj80m40) :) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on February 16, 2014, 03:40:33 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gl45Ulf7Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHz2vpX-93g

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 16, 2014, 08:14:24 PM

Quote from: forest on February 16, 2014, 04:03:57 AM
capacitor is the source of big pressure....bum! I burned another precious 260A 600V mosfet :-X , Tesla method is not the best :-X :-X :-X it's TOO COSTLY :-X :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D ;D
now, could anybody tell me what is the problem of using capacitor to power a fridge ? ramset ? ;)

I told you!!!, the moray style is still the best! :)

ok!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaXCmKAaD_4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaXCmKAaD_4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvdmISdytXg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvdmISdytXg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5_6R8YBlv4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5_6R8YBlv4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5sZi-OocoU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5sZi-OocoU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaHDCcUcmc0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaHDCcUcmc0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp0CYZ2s_cQ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 16, 2014, 08:44:57 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 16, 2014, 08:14:24 PM

I told you!!!, the moray style is still the best! :)

ok!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaXCmKAaD_4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaXCmKAaD_4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvdmISdytXg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvdmISdytXg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5_6R8YBlv4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5_6R8YBlv4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5sZi-OocoU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5sZi-OocoU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaHDCcUcmc0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaHDCcUcmc0)

:) >:( ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 16, 2014, 11:43:04 PM

302 pages and rising. hmmm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 17, 2014, 12:09:31 AM

we really need 1000 more pages

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 17, 2014, 12:35:51 AM

Yep, its been a long time.

Isnt it funny how at times we think we got it? But mostly its before we actually 'got' it. ;) Been there. ;) Many times. ::)

We may never get there gents. But some of us will persist, and hopefully have the guts to show it if anyone does get there. ???

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 17, 2014, 06:27:01 AM

:(
I don't understand :-\ , i am seeing many that they are already lighting many lamps. :-\

is everyone lying that they are still not getting the free energy?, ??? or are they just lying in truth >:(

or they are the real greed! >:( >:( >:(

what do you want really? ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 17, 2014, 07:07:49 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 17, 2014, 06:27:01 AM
:(
I don't understand :-\ , i am seeing many that they are already lighting many lamps. :-\

is everyone lying that they are still not getting the free energy?, ??? or are they just lying in truth >:(

or they are the real greed! >:( >:( >:(

what do you want really? ???

I think we're getting closer, but the self runner eludes us.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 17, 2014, 08:43:05 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 17, 2014, 06:27:01 AM
:(
I don't understand :-\ , i am seeing many that they are already lighting many lamps. :-\
But nobody does what ur mahine can sell ice candy and free washing

is everyone lying that they are still not getting the free energy?, ??? or are they just lying in truth >:(

or they are the real greed! >:( >:( >:(
If i can speak russian but filipino tau eh

what do you want really? ??? Only you my way alam mo n kasunod ampatuan

forest and most of us agree were almost there a little more push from you and all be happi ending :o ::) :-[

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 17, 2014, 09:29:35 AM

Tito:
When you gave us a Christmas clue and said," Electricity is dual in nature"
Did you mean, "electromagnetic and electrostatic?" ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on February 17, 2014, 09:47:55 AM

@MileHigh

Hmmmm. I expected some chastising but not so soon and certainly did not expect to be asked to retract or change my post, that is kind of overdoing it. I know my views come often from left field as I try to look at things from outside the box because always staying inside the box, well working in the dark is bad for the eyes.

Zeners are used to dump excess juice to ground, right or wrong. Right. So what if you put a coil between the Zener and ground so it dumps the juice into a primary coil instead of flat to ground. Then perpetuate the dumping condition so you get continuous pulsing.

Plus the zener conducts in the other direction so any flyback, field collapse or field release or bias reclamation can occur as well. You get the best of both worlds. Much better then freshly sizzled mosfets.

I am simply looking at different ways to pulse because pulsing is the Achilles heel of all OU research. That and poor diode choice. hichic

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 17, 2014, 10:00:43 AM

Setting up a test

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 17, 2014, 12:00:14 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 17, 2014, 01:28:04 PM

Quote from: DilJalaay on February 17, 2014, 12:00:14 PM
:D

Very nice ! Good work. Please explain how relay is pulsed ? Externally or wired as self-oscillating using other/unused contacts ?
What transformer you used , ordinary or toroid core ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 17, 2014, 03:21:31 PM

Quote from: DilJalaay on February 17, 2014, 12:00:14 PM
:D

Dear DilJalaay.

Circuit busted!! Nothing for me anyway.

Can you show us otherwise ??

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 17, 2014, 05:01:33 PM

Hi Grum,

Do you mean you cannot see the uploaded schematic? Or you built it and (say) it has exploded?? ::)

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 17, 2014, 05:41:50 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on February 17, 2014, 05:01:33 PM
Hi Grum,

Do you mean you cannot see the uploaded schematic? Or you built it and (say) it has exploded?? ::)

Gyula

Dear Gyula.

I built it !! Not even a puff of smoke !! ;D

I meant a bit like "Mythbusters" !! Myth busted!! No it just doesn't work for me. I tried all different transformer polarities etc. etc. Did you try it ??

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 17, 2014, 05:51:37 PM

Wattsup: Of course we need new ideas!!!!

Keep going, you have many more friends than enemies.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 17, 2014, 06:06:51 PM

Quote from: Grumage on February 17, 2014, 05:41:50 PM
Dear Gyula.

I built it !! Not even a puff of smoke !! ;D

I meant a bit like "Mythbusters" !! Myth busted!! No it just doesn't work for me. I tried all different transformer polarities etc. etc. Did you try it ??

Cheers Grum.

Hi Grum,

Oh, sorry to hear that. Although normally I give the benefit of doubt for "unusual" circuits, setups etc, I do not start to build them right away, unless measurements are shown and I estimate it may be possible...

I think in this circuit, Switches S1 and S2 are expected to "click" precisely together, this means the appropiate relay contacts should be mechanically adjusted to close and open at the same moment. Or in case of active switches, the clock timing should be precisely controlled to achive that.

And if this is only a design idea as written, then every uploader showing such ideas should indicate: he or she has not tested it yet, or if they tested, what they found.

Thanks for taking your time on this, hopefully DJ will appear again with some hints or results.

EDIT: of course with my above notice on the switches, I do not mean this circuit idea would keep the battery charged and that you could draw useful power from the AC side of the inverter...

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on February 17, 2014, 06:26:33 PM

Wattsup:

Thanks for your comments and your points are well taken. I can tell that you are a good person and your dreams are true. I am glad that you enjoy what you are doing. I am imposing my "wish list" and I know that I don't have a right to do that in the final analysis.

Here is a pitch for you: There are dozens and dozens of people that have full suites of clips about electronics on YouTube. Perhaps you can find somebody that you like. Then just take a month or more and go though the 100+ clips and try to absorb all of the material. Then go back to your thing with that additional "knowledge bank" to draw from.

I am not an electronics designer, so what I say is here is probably incomplete. Zener diodes have a few principal uses in circuits. They can be used to create a crude voltage reference or low-current supply voltage for another part of a circuit. Or they can be used to clip a waveform and prevent the voltage from going higher than the Zener voltage. That might be to protect an input section of another circuit, as an example. Zener diodes may also be used in series to add a fixed voltage drop to a signal or a voltage for whatever reason.

So good luck on your bench and please consider what I said.

MileHigh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on February 17, 2014, 07:47:13 PM

I discover a wierd effect in magnet. I will repeat my experiment to clarify it. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on February 18, 2014, 12:47:51 AM

Hello everyone. I will answer your question. Yes. Electricity is a dual nature. The clue means Capacitor could be charged by electrostatic, the most effective design will be Capacitor being charged by the ELECTROMAGNETISM of the COIL/Tesla Transformer.

a.king21 because I like your attitude man. I will give you what you needed. The attached picture is the main secret of all, there is nothing to hide because you guys already knew it all from the start what was lacking is HOW did this guy set up a free energy device. I think Tesla already told you that because of his Tesla Coil he can charged all the surrounding material around his coil Including CAPACITOR. The capacitor design i mean is what Hendershot was using on his COILS. charging the capacitor with the Electromagnetism of the COIL>. :o ::)

I think I already give everything you needed guys. Don't ask me question that is how the nature works.
Don't forget to thank the guy named Nikola Tesla everything we talked about free energy is all from this guy. The greatest genius of all Nikola Tesla.

Meow ::) ::)

Quote from: a.king21 on February 17, 2014, 09:29:35 AM
Tito:
When you gave us a Christmas clue and said," Electricity is dual in nature"
Did you mean, "electromagnetic and electrostatic?" ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 02:30:06 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 17, 2014, 09:29:35 AM
Tito:
When you gave us a Christmas clue and said," Electricity is dual in nature"
Did you mean, "electromagnetic and electrostatic?" ;)

NO!!! :o

ok!, I will reveal this thing to everyone now, but i think this will be the last one ok? :) :(
This is actually one of the amazing thing that i discover and its very simple. :)

i think i will not anymore post here everyone. hope that you can finish it. i believe that there are many here already got it and they don't want to share it to me because they are angry to me. ;D but that's okay i understand that. cause that is their hard work discoveries. am i right everyone. ;D

ok here it is:
Electricity Simply, in terms of sign it has positive sign and negative sign right? :)
Electricity simply, is compose of electron and protons right?
in terms of behavior, according to franklin the electron is the one that runs. ??? ;D
And here is the important thing that everyone should realize and know:
in terms of effect: the electricity has the capability of pushing and an effect of sucking.
AT THE SAME REAL TIME ACTION ;)

One time in my room with two door i experience and saw a double action when i open the door i am holding and i saw an effect in the other door that is nearly close. there i see an action to the other door when i open and close the one door. hope you understand it. you just try it in your two door room and see what i mean a say about. ;D
note: windows must be close and there should be no other airway other than the doors ok?. ;)

VERY SIMPLE THINGS AND AN OPEN THINGS ABOUT ELECTRICITY THAT MANY IS NOT REALIZING THE IMPORTANT USE OF IT.
REALLY JUST A COMMON SENSE TO DO SOME ARRANGEMENT TO ACCOMPLISH OUR DREAM. :) ;)

HOPE THAT HELPS AND ITS REALLY ALREADY KNOWN INFO BY EVERYONE. NOT JUST REALIZING IT. :)
There are lot of things that i want to say about it but i'm having difficulty in expressing it everyone, sorry. :) :( :'(

BY THE HIGHWAY :in after death life, there are two destination and that is heaven and hell all you need to do is just choose. :) ;)
THERE IS NO PURGATORY!!! AT KAY PARENG TOTO KUNG MASAKIT ANG TIYAN MO MAGPA PURGA KA BAKA MAY PURGATORY SA TIYAN
MO. HEHHEHE
JOKE. ;D ;D ;D LOL

Free energy really can be achieve by a mixture of balance and unbalance wire. ??? :-\ :o ;D 8)

@stupi ;D
ano ba yan? kulungan ba yan ng manok o ano, nakakain ba yan? ;D joke ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D lol
anong pinag gagagawa mo pre?, pinag lololoko mo yata yang kano e, :o ;D ;D ;D lol
may pa red red plug kapa, ibig bang sabihin non di pwede si misis? ;D ;D ;D lol

GOD BLESS EVERYONE ;) :)
TAKE CARE!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :-*

OTITS L. NOICARO ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 18, 2014, 03:22:45 AM

@forest, @Grumage, @gyula @Alls

Dear Sirs,
As it is my idea, I just combined the two circuits which are know as overunity circuits.
Both are trusted and respectful guys.

I suggest to try each circuit individually and if succeed then combine the both.

I just got the parts now am assembling my circuit. I will share if i succeed.

Thanks and regards,
D.J

P.S: In my opinion first operate the relay by simple 555 circuit(1Hz to 1000Hz), to get the good results.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 18, 2014, 03:28:54 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 02:30:06 AM

ok!, I will reveal this thing to everyone now, but i think this will be the last one ok? :) :(
This is actually one of the amazing thing that i discover and its very simple. :)

i think i will not anymore post here everyone. hope that you can finish it. i believe that there are many here already got it and they don't want to share it to me because they are angry to me. ;D but that's okay i understand that. cause that is their hard work discoveries. am i right everyone. ;D

ok here it is:
Electricity Simply, in terms of sign it has positive sign and negative sign right? :)
Electricity simply, is compose of electron and protons right?
in terms of behavior, according to franklin the electron is the one that runs. ??? ;D
And here is the important thing that everyone should realize and know:
in terms of effect: the electricity has the capability of pushing and an effect of sucking.
AT THE SAME REAL TIME ACTION ;)

One time in my room with two door i experience and saw a double action when i open the door i am holding and i saw an effect in the other door that is nearly close. there i see an action to the other door when i open and close the one door. hope you understand it. you just try it in your two door room and see what i mean a say about. ;D
note: windows must be close and there should be no other airway other than the doors ok?. ;)
My momo ahuuu
VERY SIMPLE THINGS AND AN OPEN THINGS ABOUT ELECTRICITY THAT MANY IS NOT REALIZING THE IMPORTANT USE OF IT.
REALLY JUST A COMMON SENSE TO DO SOME ARRANGEMENT TO ACCOMPLISH OUR DREAM. :) ;)

HOPE THAT HELPS AND ITS REALLY ALREADY KNOWN INFO BY EVERYONE. NOT JUST REALIZING IT. :)
There are lot of things that i want to say about it but i'm having difficulty in expressing it everyone, sorry. :) :( :'(

BY THE HIGHWAY :in after death life, there are two destination and that is heaven and hell all you need to do is just choose. :) ;)
THERE IS NO PURGATORY!!! AT KAY PARENG TOTO KUNG MASAKIT ANG TIYAN MO MAGPA PURGA KA BAKA MAY PURGATORY SA TIYAN
MO. HEHHEHE
JOKE. ;D ;D ;D LOL

Free energy really can be achieve by a mixture of balance and unbalance wire. ??? :-\ :o ;D 8)
Per kilo d kasama jilaw n tanso :)
GOD BLESS EVERYONE ;) :)
TAKE CARE!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :-*

OTITS L. NOICARO ;D

9
DOOR to door technology jumbo medium small
give us ur best link and will work it out
Ur my noty professor aka yt gooleman
Just contnue what ur doing as i am starting to enjoy every link you gave here
Only now i realized how far youve gone with ur research
Tenx
Salubungin mo na lang akp dyan pre sa purga torio dala ko ukay ukay
Otot malas :) :D ;D :( :( :( ::) ::) :-[

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 18, 2014, 03:49:31 AM

Quote from: stupify12 on February 18, 2014, 12:47:51 AM
Hello everyone. I will answer your question. Yes. Electricity is a dual nature. The clue means Capacitor could be charged by electrostatic, the most effective design will be Capacitor being charged by the ELECTROMAGNETISM of the COIL/Tesla Transformer.

a.king21 because I like your attitude man. I will give you what you needed. The attached picture is the main secret of all, there is nothing to hide because you guys already knew it all from the start what was lacking is HOW did this guy set up a free energy device. I think Tesla already told you that because of his Tesla Coil he can charged all the surrounding material around his coil Including CAPACITOR. The capacitor design i mean is what Hendershot was using on his COILS. charging the capacitor with the Electromagnetism of the COIL>. :o ::)

I think I already give everything you needed guys. Don't ask me question that is how the nature works.
Don't forget to thank the guy named Nikola Tesla everything we talked about free energy is all from this guy. The greatest genius of all Nikola Tesla.

Meow ::) ::)

Thank you sir.
May i asked what are the red dots in picture?
What is the Patent# i want to read it?

Thanks and Regards,
D.J

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 05:06:53 AM

ala ka stupify sagutin mo yang tinatanong na red dot ;D

sabihin mo na kase na may period ;D lol

di ba yan yung patent ni xerex? ??? ;D ;D :D lol

tanong mo kay pareng toto mas alam yan. lol bwa hahahahahahahha ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 18, 2014, 05:08:51 AM

hv must be discharged in a gas chamber like a triode tube in Moray and Fl tube in Dj attached circuit
Additional driver for the relay to vibrate or use its own coil
Eric Dollard has done it Moray has done it
and Tito made the rendition "My way" bang :P >:( 8) lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 18, 2014, 05:12:16 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 05:06:53 AM
ala ka stupify sagutin mo yang tinatanong na red dot ;D

sabihin mo na kase na may period ;D lol

pushing
[/q]and an effect of
sucking
.dinuguang lamok kadiri >:(

di ba yan yung patent ni xerex? ??? ;D ;D :D lol

tanong mo kay pareng toto mas alam yan. lol bwa hahahahahahahha ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 05:15:22 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 18, 2014, 05:08:51 AM
hv must be discharged in a gas chamber like a triode tube in Moray and Fl tube in Dj attached circuit
Additional driver for the relay to vibrate or use its own coil
Eric Dollard has done it Moray has done it
and Tito made the rendition "My way" bang :P >:( 8) lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY

enjoy ;) ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 18, 2014, 05:26:48 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 05:15:22 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY)

enjoy ;) ;D

So youve finally showed up in Belo style Foreignoy heheheh
brrrrroooom ( riding in tandem) bang bang rat rat bu bu poinnnnt
8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 18, 2014, 01:50:59 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 02:30:06 AM

NO!!! :o

ok!, I will reveal this thing to everyone now, but i think this will be the last one ok? :) :(
This is actually one of the amazing thing that i discover and its very simple. :)

i think i will not anymore post here everyone. hope that you can finish it. i believe that there are many here already got it and they don't want to share it to me because they are angry to me. ;D but that's okay i understand that. cause that is their hard work discoveries. am i right everyone. ;D

ok here it is:
Electricity Simply, in terms of sign it has positive sign and negative sign right? :)
Electricity simply, is compose of electron and protons right?
in terms of behavior, according to franklin the electron is the one that runs. ??? ;D
And here is the important thing that everyone should realize and know:
in terms of effect: the electricity has the capability of pushing and an effect of sucking.
AT THE SAME REAL TIME ACTION ;)

One time in my room with two door i experience and saw a double action when i open the door i am holding and i saw an effect in the other door that is nearly close. there i see an action to the other door when i open and close the one door. hope you understand it. you just try it in your two door room and see what i mean a say about. ;D
note: windows must be close and there should be no other airway other than the doors ok?. ;)

VERY SIMPLE THINGS AND AN OPEN THINGS ABOUT ELECTRICITY THAT MANY IS NOT REALIZING THE IMPORTANT USE OF IT.
REALLY JUST A COMMON SENSE TO DO SOME ARRANGEMENT TO ACCOMPLISH OUR DREAM. :) ;)

HOPE THAT HELPS AND ITS REALLY ALREADY KNOWN INFO BY EVERYONE. NOT JUST REALIZING IT. :)
There are lot of things that i want to say about it but i'm having difficulty in expressing it everyone, sorry. :) :( :'(

BY THE HIGHWAY :in after death life, there are two destination and that is heaven and hell all you need to do is just choose. :) ;)
THERE IS NO PURGATORY!!! AT KAY PARENG TOTO KUNG MASAKIT ANG TIYAN MO MAGPA PURGA KA BAKA MAY PURGATORY SA TIYAN
MO. HEHHEHE
JOKE. ;D ;D ;D LOL

Free energy really can be achieve by a mixture of balance and unbalance wire. ??? :-\ :o ;D 8)

@stupi ;D
ano ba yan? kulungan ba yan ng manok o ano, nakakain ba yan? ;D joke ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D lol
anong pinag gagagawa mo pre?, pinag lololoko mo yata yang kano e, :o ;D ;D ;D lol
may pa red red plug kapa, ibig bang sabihin non di pwede si misis? ;D ;D ;D lol

GOD BLESS EVERYONE ;) :)
TAKE CARE!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :-*

OTITS L. NOICARO ;D

Yes, but science says that when the other door closes, there is an overall energy loss - not energy amplification.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 06:50:25 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 18, 2014, 01:50:59 PM
Yes, but science says that when the other door closes, there is an overall energy loss - not energy amplification.

Yes there is still loss BUT just minimal especially if you know how to filter it. and amplification for me has the similarity about ACCUMULATION. 8)

actually if you have three door, if you open one door, the two door will react especially if its really an airtight. 8) :o ;D
it really maintaining the balance and the displacement inside the room. :o :o :o 8) ::)

ok. lets review it again what i have said a long time ago.
for example we have 12v bat and three capacitor, you charge them in parallel then discharge them in series is a very big difference isn't it. :) ;) 8)

The loss Is not actually loss, one input is equal to one output isn't it, therefore if the output is returned to source then no loss BUT THERE IS WORK THAT CAN BE DONE BEFORE YOU MAKE IT TO RETURN TO SOURCE!!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) GOT IT FRIEND? and that is FREE LUNCH :)

So the desicion is in your hand, if you want the momentum will loss then off course it will loss. :( simple isn't it. :D

So what we need then is efficiencies and common sense. 8)

bye friend, happy experimenting. ;)

Take care and God bless. :)

Tito L. Oracion now finally signing off ;D :( :'( :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 18, 2014, 07:40:12 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 06:50:25 PM

Yes there is still loss BUT just minimal especially if you know how to filter it. and amplification for me has the similarity about ACCUMULATION. 8)

actually if you have three door, if you open one door, the two door will react especially if its really an airtight. 8) :o ;D
it really maintaining the balance and the displacement inside the room. :o :o :o 8) ::)

ok. lets review it again what i have said a long time ago.
for example we have 12v bat and three capacitor, you charge them in parallel then discharge them in series is a very big difference isn't it. :) ;) 8)

The loss Is not actually loss, one input is equal to one output isn't it, therefore if the output is returned to source then no loss BUT THERE IS WORK THAT CAN BE DONE BEFORE YOU MAKE IT TO RETURN TO SOURCE!!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) GOT IT FRIEND? and that is FREE LUNCH :)

So the desicion is in your hand, if you want the momentum will loss then off course it will loss. :( simple isn't it. :D

So what we need then is efficiencies and common sense. 8)

bye friend, happy experimenting. ;)

Take care and God bless. :)

Tito L. Oracion now finally signing off ;D :( :'( :-*

So one of the wires is also used as the primary of a Tesla coil?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 18, 2014, 08:00:57 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 06:50:25 PM

Yes there is still loss BUT just minimal especially if you know how to filter it. and amplification for me has the similarity about ACCUMULATION. 8)

actually if you have three door, if you open one door, the two door will react especially if its really an airtight. 8) :o ;D
it really maintaining the balance and the displacement inside the room. :o :o :o 8) ::)

ok. lets review it again what i have said a long time ago.
for example we have 12v bat and three capacitor, you charge them in parallel then discharge them in series is a very big difference isn't it. :) ;) 8)

The loss Is not actually loss, one input is equal to one output isn't it, therefore if the output is returned to source then no loss BUT THERE IS WORK THAT CAN BE DONE BEFORE YOU MAKE IT TO RETURN TO SOURCE!!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) GOT IT FRIEND? and that is FREE LUNCH :)

So the desicion is in your hand, if you want the momentum will loss then off course it will loss. :( simple isn't it. :D

So what we need then is efficiencies and common sense. 8)

bye friend, happy experimenting. ;)

Take care and God bless. :)

Tito L. Oracion now finally signing off ;D :( :'( :-*

Good day sir teets!
Yun oh! Care for a schematic? How to? ;D Charge / discharge in parallel plang nggwa ko eh, but ung discharge in series? :'( Nganga! Hehehe...

God bless you too.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 08:40:01 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 18, 2014, 07:40:12 PM
So one of the wires is also used as the primary of a Tesla coil?

well, it has nothing to do with the tesla coil. :o

The rule is make an input then make a work then return to the source. 8) :) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 08:44:39 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 18, 2014, 08:00:57 PM

Good day sir teets!
Yun oh! Care for a schematic? How to? ;D Charge / discharge in parallel plang nggwa ko eh, but ung discharge in series? :'( Nganga! Hehehe...

God bless you too.

Well, there is actually a secret way to do this and that is the challenge, do it in automatic way. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 18, 2014, 08:46:37 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 08:40:01 PM

well, it has nothing to do with the tesla coil. :o

The rule is make an input then make a work then return to the source. 8) :) ;)

Here is one where you put a little in and get a lot back. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUHci4JxwC4

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 08:51:22 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 18, 2014, 08:46:37 PM
Here is one where you put a little in and get a lot back. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUHci4JxwC4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUHci4JxwC4)

Mags

Actually you are correct, that's the power of stimulation. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 08:52:09 PM

OK EVERYONE GOODBYE NOW :-*

here is your bonus mind blowing: [size=78%]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgXNM9Ra0Uc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgXNM9Ra0Uc)[/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 18, 2014, 09:48:53 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 08:52:09 PM
OK EVERYONE GOODBYE NOW :-*

here is your bonus mind blowing: [size=78%]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgXNM9Ra0Uc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgXNM9Ra0Uc)[/size]

This is Laseraber's spoof video for APRIL FOOLS DAY (1st APRIL in the WEST).
That's why he calls it the AFP!!!!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 18, 2014, 10:05:27 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 08:44:39 PM

Well, there is actually a secret way to do this and that is the challenge, do it in automatic way. :)

Using Tesla controller??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 19, 2014, 04:39:51 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 08:51:22 PM

Actually you are correct, that's the power of stimulation. ;D Baluuut Baluut :P

http://youtu.be/oJPOjE0hSDU (http://youtu.be/oJPOjE0hSDU) Infinitum Flux Capacitor 190214 yt bow downloading and see after 2 hours

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 19, 2014, 04:42:01 AM

I'm trying to understand the secret of electricity dual nature as told us Tito. Why books are teaching that current flow from positive to negative , that is insane but has some merit ,right ? Hmm...Consider a charged capacitor discharging into resistive load. We have one side of capacitor filled with electrons and the other with no electrons, then we turn on the switch and bulb lights for a moment and we end up with capacitor in balance having equal amount of electrons and zero volt difference between plates.
Now I clearly see one action : each electrons is pushing the other wanting to escape the side of capacitor full of electrons, and when they finally can do that due to closed loop they go in more or less speed, creating more or less current, diminishing because as the other side become fed with electrons there opposes more and more the movement...So we see (dimishing in time) PUSH action of electrical potential difference (voltage).
To be continued...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 19, 2014, 04:42:35 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 08:44:39 PM

Well, there is actually a secret way to do this and that is the challenge, do it in automatic way. :)

Minute to win it or Biggest loser challenge ??? ?? >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 19, 2014, 08:31:13 PM

What does ionization and electrolysis have in common.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 20, 2014, 02:26:07 AM

Ok,I have done simple experiment. Two identical electrolytic capacitors charged to the same voltage. I tried to discharge them in weird way by connecting only one positive terminal of first capacitor to the negative terminal of second one. Nothing changed , both were still charged. Here we proved that the electrons push action is not enough to make electric current...there must be other action involved and I think we can name it as PULL action. If I could find a way to pull electrons from negative terminal on one capacitor whne the other's negative is connected to positive of that one then the push-pull action together should move electrons from negative of the first capacitor discharging it. At least I think so. Because in my simple experiment circuit was not closed electrons on second capacitor stayed in place and there was no potential pull action to discharge them...
What we can do about that ? Tito , is that what you thought ? Can we understand this pull action ? I hope so, because I know we are very close to completly change this world, and I pray for this change to be positive...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 20, 2014, 04:22:10 AM

Try this
Charge 2 parallel 20 v caps via 12v dc source then discharge the caps in series back to source voltage in an 800 Hz schumann way ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 20, 2014, 09:44:59 AM

Eric dollard is running his car with the reed switchy vibrator for 20 years...... if its outdated .... please share any schematic as simple as that
thanks 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 20, 2014, 11:00:19 AM

Quote from: forest on February 20, 2014, 02:26:07 AM
Ok,I have done simple experiment. Two identical electrolytic capacitors charged to the same voltage. I tried to discharge them in weird way by connecting only one positive terminal of first capacitor to the negative terminal of second one. Nothing changed , both were still charged. Here we proved that the electrons push action is not enough to make electric current...there must be other action involved and I think we can name it as PULL action. If I could find a way to pull electrons from negative terminal on one capacitor whne the other's negative is connected to positive of that one then the push-pull action together should move electrons from negative of the first capacitor discharging it. At least I think so. Because in my simple experiment circuit was not closed electrons on second capacitor stayed in place and there was no potential pull action to discharge them...
What we can do about that ? Tito , is that what you thought ? Can we understand this pull action ? I hope so, because I know we are very close to completly change this world, and I pray for this change to be positive...

Benitez split the positive with a shorted transformer and an interrupter. He found that taking energy from +24 to +12 caused the + 12 side to charge up by the amount taken out of the system.
Benitez joined the l1 and l2 together of the transformer - that's what I mean by shorting the transformer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 20, 2014, 12:29:20 PM

Quote from: Atommix on February 20, 2014, 09:10:38 AM
Why replicate a system that is out of date ? And one that has a lot of missing data to make it work in a useful way ? Also the system is only compressing a current to increase the frequency to gain energy ! The modal does not explain the currant in finite terms and can become very dangerous . The rule of play should be to first ask is it safe ? And no it is not safe when you expectorate the frequency you attract unwanted amounts of radiation alpha particles static fields all of which would make you very ill if you are to close to such a device for a prolonged amount of time . Tritium particles will attack human DNA also humans emit scalar waves and will ground these particles through the body .

Please stop ! Think first and you will see that there are many ways to create the same effect without the dangers that Tesla had no idea that would exist .

Many have fallen to ill health studying these systems and is one reason they will never be a mass market technology ! Where is the Tesla museum of dodgy technology ? There would have to be a health warning on entrance to it ! Let me make this clear this is not 1920 and one has to see sense safety first then a complete diagram where all energies are counted and there effects not just power out .

It to me is a heap of junk a toy that has no place in modern energy production and belongs in a museum and should never be switched on to play with .

Try this formula take on coulomb of electrons at 1 volt equal to one watt than apply it to produce 2 watts this is the first step on the free energy ladder and a safe one a quantifiable one ! Those that live without rules get lost in the woods without the full map to know where they are .

I can give you a million watts of controllable currant starting with only one amp at one volt at 1 HZ now Tesla could not do that because he had no idea what an electron was or where it came from or any idea of the quantum mechanics of alpha particles or the effects on the DNA caused by all of the technology he made . But he was not stupid enough to play with them every hour of every day or debate there design for weeks and months and years . He just new the basics of free energy and applied it to everything !

Try and except the last thing he was making was a death ray ! Now to me that's bonkers ! Are you sure you all want to follow that mind set ? Weapon systems are to be avoided and dodgy systems that do not offer a safe development curve for useful power ! First chose the amount of power you require that decide your budget than your design !

If you continue to explore high powered systems before you explore the bottom end of the scale you will get confused lost in space grow old very fast and then go nuts or just blow your self up !

Now start with the bottom run of the ladder 1 amp at 1 volt at 1 hz than begin to climb the mountain ! Some of us know what they are doing Tesla was not of this mind set he was tinkering and pulling strings you do not have to do that so stop !

I ask only that you all think again and start again but at the bottom not at the top !

Thank you.
I agree with you.
Instead of capturing the whole sea, we must start from collecting the drops.
First step start from the bottom....hmmm nice start from 1Amp 1v and 1hz sound good.

Where is the Abc's book... from where i start my lesson?

Could you please guide us?

Looking forward,

Regards,
D.J

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 20, 2014, 02:53:47 PM

Attomix. Fantastic post .
Let's see your free energy device then!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 20, 2014, 04:10:48 PM

ha ha ha ha...better concentrate on simple working Akula schematic ;D ;D ;D seriously a.king21

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 20, 2014, 04:24:37 PM

Quote from: forest on February 20, 2014, 04:10:48 PM
ha ha ha ha...better concentrate on simple working Akula schematic ;D ;D ;D seriously a.king21

Of course I'm on to it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 20, 2014, 05:53:33 PM

Quote from: Atommix on February 20, 2014, 04:54:09 PM
The Chinese 1kw system is interesting but the video is crap ! a simple self inductive system stuck at 1kw ! I like particle physics at the quantum level and a ladder to grow ! Also the unified field oscillator that I have built is a copy of the NASA UFO technology . We moved away from human technology 10 years ago its stuck with Tesla dynamics .

I don't do dodgy videos or human technology best to copy Alien technology, they are very good at it ! Why is there so much ego in the race to free energy among the people of earth ? China and India need to pay there workers real money and stop the slave labour camps also the west are creating a robotic MUF drive in there production of technology that is un avoidable .

I favour a global community not a rat race ! The unified field oscillator is what will power the new energy here on earth that to is unavoidable small machines for cars will happen in time but oil will stay its ground for another 10 years .

I am a particle physicist my team are the best in the world we isolated the bump on the proton 3.5 years before CERN but we made no fuss about it . I sense your competitive spirit but the game is already won by an Englishman who copied an alien technology that's me and my team .

Did we invent it ! NO ! they did ! Who are they why are they here ? that is the real challenge to understand ! I challenge you to bring the Chinese technology to a safe place a neutral zone and compete against the alien technology in size weight and cost and simplicity in design and power production . No dodgy videos !

Except the challenge or throw that heap of junk in the bin .

Yours truly the best there is

Atommix
Are the 12 pillars involved????? :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 20, 2014, 06:24:17 PM

Quote from: Atommix on February 20, 2014, 01:27:30 PM
Hello my friend a great tree grows from a tiny seed, take this seed and help grow the new world ! 1st stage The first thing you need to isolate is a simple alpha particle field ! You just use a 500 watt 2 amp variable transformer plug it into a 240v AC supply on the head it will say 275 volt AC output but in fact it can give you 330v . The extra power comes from alpha particles hitting the coil these alpha particles are attracted to that size transformer because most have a rusted core red oxide is better but black is ok ! ITS THAT SIMPLE !

Connect it to a 500 watt 4 amp transformer with a full wave rectifier you will get 15v DC out put signal than connect a wire to the live + and earth it out to a earth rod or the earth in a plug socket . The remaining + - will set up a scalar wave with a special cathode receiver at the second stage part of the kit .

What you need to do is learn all you can about the Doppler effect and the free electron in silver ! Each silver atom will give up one free electron silver solder wire is ok form the coil into a spiral and place under a stainless steel pot and fill with water . Displace DC current into the water to charge the water . It should store a polarised osculating DC charge that will last for weeks ...

What you will need to achieve is to pass the alpha particles onto the surface of the water and use the Doppler effect to increase the frequencies of the particles this will attract up to the cathode the free electrons in the silver these electrons than are charged by the alpha particles and you just send them into your resister or anything you want to power but along a new earth . Electrons when charged are attracted to EARTH and when discharged will return to where they came from .

Isolate your alpha particles first than let me email you the system and share it with you ! The movement of the cathode over the water will control the frequencies volts and amps but you will need to know how to count that energy and by switching the unit on and than off to program the field ! When you switch it off a displaced alpha particle currant will still be bouncing off the surface of the water trying to hit the free electrons in the silver . This is memory !

There is no limit to the amount of power from this as you can keep pumping into it the alpha particles and when you run out of free electrons
from the silver it will start to take up the electrons in the hydrogen bonds ! The hydrogen bond in the water have an open path to the proton in the hydrogen atom . Each proton has 1kw of potential and will displace its self as x y charged particles ... You start with one amp one volt one HZ but when you begin to move the receiving cathode over the water you begin to build up the current . You can also change the volts by lifting up and down the cathode and increase the amps by sending the cathode back into the centre . We call this system a unified field oscillator or a UFO power generater . To see a large one in action up load the tether NASA SPACE EXPERIMENT ! or NASA SECRET UFO ! This is very real and you get to see a pulse of flux coming off the alien space craft ! The alien space crafts filmed are approx 4 kilometres outside O/D ... And there hundreds of them in the film .. My science team isolated the power supply to the alien space craft. And now I am teaching you how to build a small one . hahah good will to all humans that have an open mind and to you my friend the keys to the universe . email me at rainbow1234567890@outlook.com and join the Earth Village project science team . We must except this simple technology and where it came from . We can not own it as it belongs to them not us . Smile its very real ! safe ! cheap ! and all powerful . yours truly ATOMMIX
Ok
I have an electroplating machine with varaible transformer in red oxide
a transfomer MOT or 500 w 400 3 ph to 24 12 5 v dc
ac cap to cap the current / dc cap to clip the voltage
a silver solder wire
stainless steel
3 grams of salt
Now for the connections
ac transformer to another transformer then bridge rectifier
connect a wire to the live + and earth it out to a earth rod or the earth in a plug socket . The remaining + - will set up a scalar wave with a special cathode receiver at the second stage part of the kit .
Question : where to connect the load ( inductive resistive? ) : after switching of how many times and what v current to be expected? :)
Hope off the shelf parts can be used here as we are in a budget string... we can invest dearly our time if only a working model can be viewed or pm to us

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on February 21, 2014, 03:00:45 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 20, 2014, 09:44:59 AM
Eric dollard is running his car with the reed switchy vibrator for 20 years...... if its outdated .... please share any schematic as simple as that
thanks 8)

will you share Eric dollard schematic .... don't care if its outdated.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 21, 2014, 07:16:57 AM

Quote from: Marsing on February 21, 2014, 03:00:45 AM
will you share Eric dollard schematic .... don't care if its outdated.

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg384885/#msg384885

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on February 21, 2014, 08:27:55 AM

Quote from: Atommix on February 21, 2014, 07:27:14 AM

There is no Over Unity there is only energy flowing from one point to another just like a river with a wheel in it nothing to it its that simple . But now micro waves are every where and the earth is sending up alpha particles from its core all this gets an extra charge from the sun and gravity interstellar electricity 5th dimensional effects !

so, how to use these micro waves, will you show us your work .....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 21, 2014, 08:52:26 AM

Quote from: Marsing on February 21, 2014, 03:00:45 AM
will you share Eric dollard schematic .... don't care if its outdated.

Hi,

This may also help: http://www.tuks.nl/wiki/index.php/Main/EnergeticFormPosts and look for this text in it:

"I have a device, built for the Army Air Corps during World War 2, A/N number PP-18/AR Power Converter, which self-sustains the electrical system in my car. It uses the same theory of operation as Chris's device but involves a different mechanical implementation utilizing a vibrator, several capacitors and 12V and 24V batteries that are connected in parallel through the device, rendering them as one. "

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on February 21, 2014, 10:05:07 AM

Hi Atommix,

If you address the question to me ( Do you except ? ) than I can accept it but hopefully you know that my quoted text on the Power converter (vibrator) was written by Eric Dollard, and unfortunately I do not have it, he does.

Nevertheless, I would be interested in your zero current electric motor of course. IT would be the best if you start a new thread on it here on the forum or if you do not wish to open source it, then at least give some hints on its working principle?

Thanks,
Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on February 21, 2014, 10:36:07 AM

thanks totoalas, Gyula,
you give me a lot of manuscripts :D

Atommix,
are you selling your tech or applying for the ou prize ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 21, 2014, 01:27:06 PM

Atommix: You talk a good game. The question is, do you have the goods?

Remember, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

So, surely a picture of your magnetic generator won't break any confidentiality agreements, would it?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 21, 2014, 02:19:31 PM

TITO SAYS HE IS SELLING ICE CANDY AND HAS FREE WASHING MACHINE USING FREE ENERGY thats why were still here for the hints links discussions etc
we can replicate eric dollards flux capacitor
titos circuit same as Nieves olivares exact diagram
we can go BACK TO THE FUTURE
just show us some videos and circuits you think you can share with us then that will be great 8) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 21, 2014, 07:46:20 PM

Hey Atommix

You seem to post a lot of big posts. Are you here to get people to join your group?

You said in your last post...

"Who among you that can add up from one electron to infinity please step forward into the Earth Village project take your place in equal ownership , understanding, truth, and hard work for if you do not step forward this world will never become free and the people will only find another way to destroy it self with religion greed and and out dated dysfunctional political power . "

If you already have free energy devices, why call upon ones that supposedly have it also? ???

After all your posting, I might come to believe you are here to possibly to get people here to reveal their knowledge, or join your club. As you say above, "if you do not step forward this world will never become free " Why put the responsibility on us, when it is you who make huge post about big claims. Maybe you should step forward, or we will never be free. ::)

So far, it seems you are presenting some sort of free energy paradise, to lure the ones that possibly do have FE devices. Why should they trust you? Maybe its a big trap. ???

Be careful folks. Something about all this makes me itch. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on February 21, 2014, 08:05:08 PM

@ Atommix,

I have some concerns regarding the timing of your presence on this thread, and also with some of your statements.

" Many have fallen to ill health studying these systems and is one reason they will never be a mass market technology ! Where is the Tesla museum of dodgy technology ? There would have to be a health warning on entrance to it ! "

From what I have read Tesla lived to a ripe old age, until he was murdered after revealing his secrets.
Those words could be construed as fear porn, given that you followed them up with a sales pitch.

" Try and except the last thing he was making was a death ray ! Now to me that's bonkers ! Are you sure you all want to follow that mind set ? "

Wasn't that the reason he refused to share that discovery, which like all other discoveries likely happened while looking for something else ?

And no one can say what his last work consisted of.

"...oil will stay its ground for another 10 years . "

How can that be if you have the technology right now ?
Besides, by that time, we will all be reduced to mind controlled slaves.

" I would like to offer you a chance to share with me via the Earth village project that is government funded...your are most welcome to join our group co create and share the rewards..."

Government funded ???
The gov is made up of psychopaths !!!
Why would they give up their power...which such technology would result in ?

" This approach is quantifiable real and fits with the laws of energy and health and safety and the financial markets ! "

There would be no such thing as "financial markets" with free energy...only freedom and independence.

I do not really expect a response for obvious reasons.

To conclude, at this point in time, 'ANYONE' holding back important information on free energy are in reality mass murders by proxy...considering the staggering numbers of people deaths each day from hunger, thirst, and many other causes related to deprivation.

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on February 21, 2014, 08:51:56 PM

Well...I guess that post tells the story for anyone with false hope.

As previously stated, anybody who can "power a city" and doesn't, given humanity's plight is a mass murder by proxy.

I challenge anyone to dispute that.

I don't really expect anyone to argue that point either...except the above poster.

Someone on one of these high traffic threads is getting too close for the comfort of gov psycho's, else this distraction would not have surfaced at this particular time.

Not sure just who, but my advice is to stick to the most recent areas of discussion.

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 21, 2014, 09:22:21 PM

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on February 21, 2014, 08:51:56 PM
Well...I guess that post tells the story for anyone with false hope.

As previously stated, anybody who can "power a city" and doesn't, given humanity's plight is a mass murder by proxy.

I challenge anyone to dispute that.

I don't really expect anyone to argue that point either...except the above poster.

Someone on one of these high traffic threads is getting too close for the comfort of gov psycho's, else this distraction would not have surfaced at this particular time.

Not sure just who, but my advice is to stick to the most recent areas of discussion.

Regards...

"else this distraction would not have surfaced at this particular time."

And this thread just went pages off track, thats for certain. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 21, 2014, 11:44:08 PM

Quote from: Atommix on February 21, 2014, 09:28:01 PM
Please read the evp plan !

Toy power is not going to do much good ! Also a lot of systems out there suck in micro wave energy from mobile phone signals ! Others just to dam costly to build !

PLEASE CALM DOWN THE PARANOIA ABOUT GOVERNMENT MONEY ! HERE IN THE UK ITS GOOD MONEY AND I AM WORKING OUT HOW BEST TO USE IT UNDER THE CONTRACT THAT I HAVE .

The world needs big ideas planted with a tiny seed and to them who can let go of fear and see the bigger picture will also see that money is very important ! We need MUF plant ASAP here in the UK that starts at £1 000 000 before wages.

People don't want build your own kits they want cheap clean power and that's the fact of it !

KEEP IT REAL AND IT MIGHT HAPPEN

"Toy power is not going to do much good ! Also a lot of systems out there suck in micro wave energy from mobile phone signals ! Others just to dam costly to build !"

Hmm. Well, coming from a self proclaimed, govt funded millionaire, that might be easy to say. A lot of people here dont have much money, if any to spend on projects. So with what they can, they go for the 'toy' approach, as it is cheaper to build small. And if small can make good results, then what is the big problem with that? You said this also.. "The world needs big ideas planted with a tiny seed...". Well a "toy" that might produce more out than in, or even None in and some out, isnt that a "seed"?? ::) If it works on a small scale, then we can always upscale that. But until we figure out the seed, most will tend to build and experiment 'small', to avoid 'big' costs of experimentation.That includes me. ;)

Cant you see why I may have conflict with your posts???? :-\ Hmm??? ???

And if you want to 'expand' on different techs, being that you seem to already have 'something', maybe a show of good faith and show your device, so the door will be open for others to come out of their labs and share also. Otherwise, each and every offer that comes by like yours needs to be scrutinized. A lot of people that make claims, tend to be paranoid.

Question. What is required of the people that wish to get involved with you and the village? Forget the pdf. In your own words. Im not going o try and extract that from what you wrote so far. What would you require of me in whole, in order to become part of the village.? ;)

Also I wanted to say, but it was already said here, and I have said it before. Do you know how old Tesla was when he died? And do you know how much power/ energy, radiations he was exposed to??? And did he die after laying in a bed of a hospital for years before dying?? ::) Tesla knew more than you give him credit for. That is a strike against you. ;)

I would like a decent reply. Not another 'half page' of cheap convincing. We seemed to be on a roll here with a few ideas, and now, its just page after page of 'this'. As Cap said, this has been disruptive and not many posts of what was going on before you started filling pages. So, what are you going to do for us, first. Then we may appreciate it, and some here may give back. But please, stop filling pages with 'convincing' and show us what your really made of. ;D ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 22, 2014, 04:22:12 AM

back to earth and back to work

just spent 200 Usd for motherboard replacement of my galaxy note 2 as it stop suddenly grrrr
no more video uploads too costly

now on to this thread
to find replacement of the vibrator
i used omron 4 pole dipole contact
using neo magnet can adjust contact strength
to make the contacts closer
add external bolt to push the no contacts
this is for balance charging

tito my field trip daw tau with Village people macho macho man ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 22, 2014, 06:16:38 AM

@Atommix

Why there is a big space at the end of all your posts????

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 22, 2014, 06:36:01 AM

ANAK: Lagi na lang ako mali! Hindi na ko gumawa ng tama! Hindi niyo nako mhal! :-[ :-* :-\ [/size]
TATAY: Anak, nagkakamali ka. :o ::) ??? [/size]
ANAK: P*t*ng ina! Mali na naman? ;D :D ;) [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 22, 2014, 06:52:17 AM

I suggest we take a good look at the posts immediately prior to atommix's posts.
We've obviously got it there.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 22, 2014, 07:24:24 AM

_{Akula schematic rulez ;) ;) ;)}

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 22, 2014, 07:49:09 AM

Is this site dragging for everyone or just me, takes forever to load.

I think the ether is just like water it has to be seperated to be collected.

Alternating current gives a neg pulse one direction and a pos pulse in the other, this I just learned in the last week or so, Im kinda slow :) .

QuoteAC systems generate positive ions during the first half-cycle of the waveform and negative ions during the second half-cycle of the waveform.

http://www.globalspec.com/learnmore/manufacturing_equipment/ionizers_static_eliminators

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on February 22, 2014, 07:59:04 AM

@Attomix
I have to concur with other @members on this forum.

We have been working on OU devices since many years now and have seen a whole slew of personalities coming here, shooting the big talk, then leaving by the back door, never to be heard from again.

You are asking @members to join your EVP saying right away the magic word "Non Disclosure Agreement" (NDA) which in fact means once it is signed and talks start, the @member(s) can now longer share their works as open source.

This in fact means someone up there that holds the EVP purse strings (that is if what you are saying has any truth to it at all) will now hold EVP members under control and even if your idea has some merit, that one NDA fact is a deal breaker because Mr. Purse String can now pull his funds any time he decides to and if I am not mistaken, this same money guy will have the wherewithal to block EVP from canvasing for other funds from other possibly less controlling sources.

If the EVP is to have any real impact, it has to stay open source at all times. That is the only guarantee we have that our works will remain in the public domain and not to be kept behind closed doors for whatever reason you may consider to be valid for your present orientation. Public domain means information redundancy which is one of our only guarantees we have that one power cannot stop it all. In your case, you could be muzzled up so fast and taken to court for years to try and break the control.

Our works are not on large scale since we already know that just a 100 watts device could save lives in the 3rd world where it is needed the most. Just 100 watts can changed the whole quality of life for a few billion people. That is where you have to start. Save them first then worry about integrating this into our modern countries.
But what you want to do is sell juice before it is even made sort of like banking on energy futures.
Just because you say the UK Gov is funding you, this does not make the deal good for both @members here or elsewhere to sign into a mouth closing deal and leave this all in the hands of people we don't even know.

The other deal breaker is that you THINK your device will be the one used in a widely accepted manner, but the reality will be that within 3 months of producing and showing any OU device, that same device WILL BE RENDERED OBSOLETE, simply because that one device will foster so much side research that someone else will be bound to discover a better, simpler and more accessible device.
For @members here, all of this is more reason to work only via open source because even if we finally show a simple OU device, most here already know and accept the fact that the world itself will render that first device obsolete very quickly and rightly so since that is how technology progresses.
I would rather play my open source game then sign out my rights to Mr. Unknown Money Man.

Also, your EVP pdf file is very worrisome because you are incorporating so many things into one doc, trying to cover so much ground, and all of that is simply impossible to suggest that a zero earning start-up will have its hands in so many activities. Seems like your dream was overstretched by a few miles.
The other concern is how you portray yourself as being THE ONE that holds all the cards as if only you have the Right to deploy FE in the world. Now where does all that conceitedness come from I don't know but in the real world, it does not fly very well.

At this forum most will prefer the more realistic route. We do not trust outsiders with grand schemes that have NDA in the first sentence. For this OU forum that holds open source as the way, it is like sending a fox into a chicken coupe. So again your approach is not the right one.
Open Source is the only answer. Making a secretive group called the EVP or the God People or the Biggest Brains Club and tagging on your NDA just means, you need people with brains but without a mouth to speak and eyes to see how the results of such brainworks will be deployed.

So in the final analysis, it still remains that Open Source is our only real guarantee that the world will have direct and first access to any or all of our discoveries of OU and it is not up to you or your group on how this could or should be "CONTROLLED".

Our real work is to show OU. Then it is up to the world and all those interested in producing whatever it involves to make it available everywhere. That is the only way this cannot be quashed again and again as history has shown. For that reason, your project cannot be trusted and as they say on the Dragons' Den, "I'm out".

Sorry for this post that you will certainly tag as Negative but you have not provided anything Positive enough to swing the voltmeter your way.
If you are sincere, I wish you all the best success. I personally do not care who brings OU to the world as long as it happens. You can try it your way but with over 35 years of business experience I can only concur with others that your prospectus has more holes in it then swiss cheese.

So by all means, you can work in your closed world and still know that we are here working in the open world and anything we find here may be useful to your works or to other works, we do not care. If you have the bucks, I would suggest you donate some amount to @hartiberlin who moderates this forum and he will add that amount to the OU prize or maybe even provide some of that to anyone he deems as suitable for some financial assistance based on their current works and GENUINE NEEDS.

wattsup

Added:

@stefan

The site is slow because your harti.hopfeed.com is taking so long to accomplish whatever it is supposed to do.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 22, 2014, 08:29:59 AM

They say electrons flow from neg to pos

When ion clouds form around the electrodes of an ionizer there are two clouds one pos and one neg.

Not one neg and the other a deficit

Some things just dont add up

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on February 22, 2014, 08:37:09 AM

Quote from: DilJalaay on February 22, 2014, 06:16:38 AM
@Atommix

Why there is a big space at the end of all your posts? ???

That's a megalomaniac style; striking is his poor English language, anyway: looks like he doesn't care for details. A single guy shouldn't expect his answer, only a group, and it must be a large group since he got large targets.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 22, 2014, 08:52:52 AM

Quote from: wattsup on February 22, 2014, 07:59:04 AM
@Attomix
I have to concur with other @members on this forum.

We have been working on OU devices since many years now and have seen a whole slew of personalities coming here, shooting the big talk, then leaving by the back door, never to be heard from again.

You are asking @members to join your EVP saying right away the magic word "Non Disclosure Agreement" (NDA) which in fact means once it is signed and talks start, the @member(s) can now longer share their works as open source.

This in fact means someone up there that holds the EVP purse strings (that is if what you are saying has any truth to it at all) will now hold EVP members under control and even if your idea has some merit, that one NDA fact is a deal breaker because Mr. Purse String can now pull his funds any time he decides to and if I am not mistaken, this same money guy will have the wherewithal to block EVP from canvasing for other funds from other possibly less controlling sources.

If the EVP is to have any real impact, it has to stay open source at all times. That is the only guarantee we have that our works will remain in the public domain and not to be kept behind closed doors for whatever reason you may consider to be valid for your present orientation. Public domain means information redundancy which is one of our only guarantees we have that one power cannot stop it all. In your case, you could be muzzled up so fast and taken to court for years to try and break the control.

Our works are not on large scale since we already know that just a 100 watts device could save lives in the 3rd world where it is needed the most. Just 100 watts can changed the whole quality of life for a few billion people. That is where you have to start. Save them first then worry about integrating this into our modern countries.
But what you want to do is sell juice before it is even made sort of like banking on energy futures.
Just because you say the UK Gov is funding you, this does not make the deal good for both @members here or elsewhere to sign into a mouth closing deal and leave this all in the hands of people we don't even know.

The other deal breaker is that you THINK your device will be the one used in a widely accepted manner, but the reality will be that within 3 months of producing and showing any OU device, that same device WILL BE RENDERED OBSOLETE, simply because that one device will foster so much side research that someone else will be bound to discover a better, simpler and more accessible device.
For @members here, all of this is more reason to work only via open source because even if we finally show a simple OU device, most here already know and accept the fact that the world itself will render that first device obsolete very quickly and rightly so since that is how technology progresses.
I would rather play my open source game then sign out my rights to Mr. Unknown Money Man.

Also, your EVP pdf file is very worrisome because you are incorporating so many things into one doc, trying to cover so much ground, and all of that is simply impossible to suggest that a zero earning start-up will have its hands in so many activities. Seems like your dream was overstretched by a few miles.
The other concern is how you portray yourself as being THE ONE that holds all the cards as if only you have the Right to deploy FE in the world. Now where does all that conceitedness come from I don't know but in the real world, it does not fly very well.

At this forum most will prefer the more realistic route. We do not trust outsiders with grand schemes that have NDA in the first sentence. For this OU forum that holds open source as the way, it is like sending a fox into a chicken coupe. So again your approach is not the right one.
Open Source is the only answer. Making a secretive group called the EVP or the God People or the Biggest Brains Club and tagging on your NDA just means, you need people with brains but without a mouth to speak and eyes to see how the results of such brainworks will be deployed.

So in the final analysis, it still remains that Open Source is our only real guarantee that the world will have direct and first access to any or all of our discoveries of OU and it is not up to you or your group on how this could or should be "CONTROLLED".

Our real work is to show OU. Then it is up to the world and all those interested in producing whatever it involves to make it available everywhere. That is the only way this cannot be quashed again and again as history has shown. For that reason, your project cannot be trusted and as they say on the Dragons' Den, "I'm out".

Sorry for this post that you will certainly tag as Negative but you have not provided anything Positive enough to swing the voltmeter your way.
If you are sincere, I wish you all the best success. I personally do not care who brings OU to the world as long as it happens. You can try it your way but with over 35 years of business experience I can only concur with others that your prospectus has more holes in it then swiss cheese.

So by all means, you can work in your closed world and still know that we are here working in the open world and anything we find here may be useful to your works or to other works, we do not care. If you have the bucks, I would suggest you donate some amount to @hartiberlin who moderates this forum and he will add that amount to the OU prize or maybe even provide some of that to anyone he deems as suitable for some financial assistance based on their current works and GENUINE NEEDS.

wattsup

Added:

@stefan

The site is slow because your harti.hopfeed.com is taking so long to accomplish whatever it is supposed to do.

Well said, man you should write for a living.

March on, viva le revolucion

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on February 22, 2014, 11:37:04 AM

Last night I received the following email from the email address copied below.

rainbow1234567890@outlook.com(harti@harti.com)

Here is the text...

"

I have up loaded the plan as an attachment please read it ! You will its firm commitment to the poorest people on the planet ! 
 
Also please calm down on the heavy but I except some flack on this ! stay cool ! This is simple first read the plan than see that the door to share the plan is open . 
 
There will be two fronts one is the evp plan for small cheap systems with a set rule of health and safety and legal technology ! 
 
second is the advance sales of kwh into the futures markets via a technology that is odd to produce a 1 000 000 kwh in each city on the planet sold in advance over the next ten years . 
 
We pool the money and all agree the final technology ! that's the deal ! keep it simple safe and real . 
 
The evp plan doc is an open doc so you can add to it if you like ! 
 
Good luck "

As you can see it is unsigned.

When I clicked on reply, my reply would have went to the same email address.

Stephan has emailed me before, but has always concluded the message with his name.

Another interesting point:

I have always been the one to chastise others for dismissing new concepts and ideas out of hand.

But, noticeably silent are these "others" (naysayers) who have always been at the ready to dismiss all 'new concepts and ideas out of hand', professing a duty to 'prevent all the rest of us from wasting time and resources being led down a dead end paths at the expense of their families and bank accounts' ?

So, where were they...their silence was deafening ?

There would have been a LOT of money collected on this venture, would there not ?

At this point, I do not believe it to be unreasonable to expect the same silence and restraint from them, the naysayers, in the future.

But, I am quite confident that for them, it will be still 'business as usual' whenever a new concepts and idea arises again.

And I think we all know why, don't we...can the answer be more obvious ?

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dllabarre on February 22, 2014, 03:19:37 PM

Quote from: wattsup on February 22, 2014, 07:59:04 AM

@stefan

The site is slow because your harti.hopfeed.com is taking so long to accomplish whatever it is supposed to do.

I agree. I follow 4 threads here and everyone is just hanging. It started a few days ago for me.

I'm going to stay away from overunity.com for a few days to let Stephen fix this.

It's too annoying. :'(

DonL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 22, 2014, 08:45:54 PM

Well, for me, with a 56Mbps connection, it took 1min 30sec to open the home page, 1min 30sec to open this thread, and 1min 30 sec to open the reply page. 4 min and 30 sec to get to here to write this. ??? ::)

I feel like im on a 14Kbs modem. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on February 22, 2014, 09:04:48 PM

I'm not sure if there is any connection, but these problems arose immediately after we started scrutinizing the claims made in the postings from Atommix.

I would advise people to review the discussion points raised just prior to his appearance.

And I would ask that Stephan remove these pages and create a new thread entitled Atommix controversy and place them there, so that we may pick up where things left off.

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on February 22, 2014, 09:18:45 PM

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on February 22, 2014, 11:37:04 AM

Last night I received the following email from the email address copied below.

There is way to make fake email with email client, be careful !!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on February 22, 2014, 10:10:29 PM

Thanks for the warning Marsing...but I think it was just that somebody wanted me to keep quiet.

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on February 23, 2014, 07:14:14 PM

Sir teets baka po pwede kayo madalaw para makita naman yun FE device nyo..... bka mlapit lang po kayo... or magset po ng meeting para sa mga mahilig sa FE device??? Quezon City lang po ako

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 23, 2014, 08:00:19 PM

Quote from: DimaWari on February 23, 2014, 07:14:14 PM
Sir teets baka po pwede kayo madalaw para makita naman yun FE device nyo..... bka mlapit lang po kayo... or magset po ng meeting para sa mga mahilig sa FE device??? Quezon City lang po ako

you can call txt abd triangulate his location
taga laguna 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 24, 2014, 06:27:00 PM

Quote from: DimaWari on February 23, 2014, 07:14:14 PM
Sir teets baka po pwede kayo madalaw para makita naman yun FE device nyo..... bka mlapit lang po kayo... or magset po ng meeting para sa mga mahilig sa FE device??? Quezon City lang po ako

Malapit lang cya sayu, hehehe....secret nga lang loc. nya. >:( :D ;D :o 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 24, 2014, 06:45:47 PM

Can you guys stop with the pang pang ding. Im really getting tired of translating and seeing it wasnt worth translating, well most of it. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on February 24, 2014, 06:56:16 PM

Here ! Here !

Particularly given the gravity of the situation the planet is in.

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 25, 2014, 06:28:47 AM

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=flux%20capacitor%20dollard&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCUQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DILdmvmZbKCs&ei=4nQMU87sMMK-rgfploD4CQ&usg=AFQjCNHXTbvsbQNrZTlyldyeOcfo7p0_0A&sig2=mr4W19cW1lleyas6xq_BXQ

I have been watching this thread since long, even before I joined the forum. Some stupid "pang pang ding" seems to be taking you guys for a huge long ride. As if he has something and everyone seems to be kissing his a$$ as if that guy is holding a philosophers stone.

Its frustrating to see this situation continue endlessly for months on end.

Leave him alone, put him in the iggy bin.

I suggest you guys watch this 2, 3, 4 times and you will understand the secret of "energy synthesis".

Energy amplification is just an impossible thing to ever happen to the mankind.

Listen to Eric very carefully. He never talks about free energy production.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 25, 2014, 07:24:59 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 24, 2014, 06:45:47 PM
Can you guys stop with the pang pang ding. Im really getting tired of translating and seeing it wasnt worth translating, well most of it. ;)

Mags

Sorry mags for the distraction, nevermind our chit-chat not worth to translate, we are just kidding around... ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 25, 2014, 07:55:15 AM

Quote from: Google on February 25, 2014, 06:28:47 AM
http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=flux%20capacitor%20dollard&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCUQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DILdmvmZbKCs&ei=4nQMU87sMMK-rgfploD4CQ&usg=AFQjCNHXTbvsbQNrZTlyldyeOcfo7p0_0A&sig2=mr4W19cW1lleyas6xq_BXQ (http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=flux%20capacitor%20dollard&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCUQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DILdmvmZbKCs&ei=4nQMU87sMMK-rgfploD4CQ&usg=AFQjCNHXTbvsbQNrZTlyldyeOcfo7p0_0A&sig2=mr4W19cW1lleyas6xq_BXQ)

I have been watching this thread since long, even before I joined the forum. Some stupid "pang pang ding" seems to be taking you guys for a huge long ride. As if he has something and everyone seems to be kissing his a$$ as if that guy is holding a philosophers stone.

Its frustrating to see this situation continue endlessly for months on end.

Leave him alone, put him in the iggy bin.

I suggest you guys watch this 2, 3, 4 times and you will understand the secret of "energy synthesis".

Energy amplification is just an impossible thing to ever happen to the mankind.

Listen to Eric very carefully. He never talks about free energy production.

Hi Google,
I'm sorry for you if this thread is annoying you and others, but i believe this guy Tito, he has shared mostly of what this thread is all about, maybe the reason he is not disclosing all is, maybe he's tied with some investors so he can't share all or show some videos, just guessing, but all he said here are true, if you are familiar with the electric fish catching device, maybe you will not judge Tito as some "pang pang ding" guy, but it's your op[size=78%]inion so i won't dispute you on that, just go with the flow....[/size] ;)

Respectfully yours
Cc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 25, 2014, 09:43:18 AM

:o 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 25, 2014, 11:44:52 AM

Proof that paid disinfo agents are operating- by Snowden:
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/02/snowden-training-guide-for-gchq-nsa-agents-infiltrating-and-disrupting-alternative-media-online-2906204.html?utm_source=direct-b4in.info&utm_campaign=&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FfUWX&utm_medium=verticalresponse&utm_content=beforeit39snews-verticalresponse (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/02/snowden-training-guide-for-gchq-nsa-agents-infiltrating-and-disrupting-alternative-media-online-2906204.html?utm_source=direct-b4in.info&utm_campaign=&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FfUWX&utm_medium=verticalresponse&utm_content=beforeit39snews-verticalresponse)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 25, 2014, 12:06:16 PM

Http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/13413-energy-amplification-tito-l-oracion.html

Hi cc,

I am not getting fed up. There is nothing comparable between a stupid fish catcher and energy amplification. As if the saviour of the mankind / Gods gift to humanity is powering his home with energy amplifier and is off the grid. Lol.

Yet to happen, long way to go......

For the above to be true, you have to either increase current, keeping voltage constant or increase voltage, keeping current constant.

Either way is impossible to achieve in a closed system. But in an open system add another source of voltage or current and the power gets amplified.

Electronic components are not magical, they let the voltage or current flow as per their basic characteristics.

Coils, magnets, LEDs, ferrite cores, capacitors, resistors, transistors, diodes, scopes, signal generatos etc and their numerous combinations showing different effects are a good hobby and time pass.

But multiplying power and/or energy is not. So far whatever overunity claims have been made they are either historical (Leedskalnin, Hubbard, Hendershot, Moray, Hans Coler etc.) and non replicable or have been proven to be fraud (Perendev, Mylow, RomeroUK etc.) or cried suppression and/ or visits by men in black for their petty electromagnetic toys. As if these toys were a threat to oil and / or energy companies. I wonder why solar cell and wind power company CEOs are never threatened or killed. Lol.

Oil guys, if at all, ever, google overunity or free energy, must be laughing out loud.

There are thousands of patents, multiple forums, magazines, plans, books and CDs and DVDs, magnets etc being sold since ages but there is not a single overunity device anywhere in the world in working order.

Nothing works. Just doesnt work.

Free energy devices are so stubborn, they just dont work.

Numerous youtube videos, websites etc showing circuits, spewing out theories and blinking LEDs..... and in the end they ask for donations. Lol.

Countless greedy investors being duped by free energy inventors since ages. Lol.

Well lets hope for a single honest inventor to appear on the face of earth like an angel to uplift the humanity to the next level of freedom from buying energy on a continuous basis.

Lets only hope.

Best

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 25, 2014, 12:11:19 PM

Disinfo agents operating on this site?

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/02/snowden-training-guide-for-gchq-nsa-agents-infiltrating-and-disrupting-alternative-media-online-2906204.html?utm_source=direct-b4in.info&utm_campaign=&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FfUWX&utm_medium=verticalresponse&utm_content=beforeit39snews-verticalresponse (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/02/snowden-training-guide-for-gchq-nsa-agents-infiltrating-and-disrupting-alternative-media-online-2906204.html?utm_source=direct-b4in.info&utm_campaign=&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FfUWX&utm_medium=verticalresponse&utm_content=beforeit39snews-verticalresponse)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 25, 2014, 12:22:32 PM

Dear a.king21,

Why since ages overunity claiments have not been able to vomit a single overunity devise ? Why do they cry

SUPPRESSION

MEN IN BLACK

DISINFO AGENTS

Please show me a single working overunity device and I will not mind licking my own spit.

I am throwing an open challenge to you.

Show me just 1 watt extra in output power of any device, mechanical or electrical, either way.

But I can give you list of donation seekers.

Prove yourself right at least once in your lifetime.

Best

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 25, 2014, 01:19:39 PM

Unbelievable guys, 309 pages of dribble and nothing to show.

Ding ding pang : I have something wonderful behind the curtain. :) ;) ;D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? :P :-[ :-X :-\

Other : Sir sir sir, please please please share your secret.

Ding ding pang : ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D ( only faces to make )

No evidence to back up the 309 pages long claims...... just faces to make.

Who are we ? Grade 1 school children ?

On top of that sycophants claim "disinpho agents". Lol lol lol

Best

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on February 25, 2014, 02:31:42 PM

@Google

Enough with the OU is impossible. Technically that's almost a given. I say almost because I do not believe it is ultimately impossible. That being said there is no reason not to pursue free energy. Notice there is a difference, free energy is energy obtained at no cost other than the equipment needed to collect it. I have a free energy device. It collects ambient energy. I have another one that is magnet powered. The only problem I have is I can't collect it fast enough, solar is faster, but I am working on a more promising one.

As far as your dis of Tito, everything he has shown and hinted about boils down to super efficient use and recycling of energy. A lot can be done with that. If you can get 1 amp to do the work of 4 amps, is that not energy amplification? And if you can collect that 1 amp for free then isn't that OU? For all practical purposes it is.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 25, 2014, 02:31:43 PM

Some people here have a very high "chronic bullshitting co-efficient", which is repeated in cycles on all threads, be it TPU, newman motor or any other thread.

Dunno which shanty they live in but surely have access to internet.

Look at this

http://www.overunity.com/5975/stefan-and-newman-motor/nowap/#.UwzwZn1X7MI

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bbem on February 25, 2014, 03:31:14 PM

@Loner,
Your test reminds me of prof.Turtur's test ;)
http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Claus_Wilhelm_Turtur (http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Claus_Wilhelm_Turtur)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 25, 2014, 03:40:26 PM

http://www.overunity.com/5975/stefan-and-newman-motor/msg142209/#msg142209 (http://www.overunity.com/5975/stefan-and-newman-motor/msg142209/#msg142209)
Can somebody repost Nieves Oliveras circuit similar to Tito but with parts ......
Ive tested with ordinary relays on Eric set up one 1s 12 v 7 ah the other side one 1.2 v and 9v 7ah batteries and the v easily rise to 16 v from the 2 series batteries the relay is consuming 50 mA but unstable due to gap in the contact which is adjusted by neo magnets only
Now its time for titos circuit to rain >:( shine 8) or dump :'(
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 25, 2014, 03:42:33 PM

Hi Loner,

Thanks for the post. I am certainly not the disinfo type. But I dont really know what is meant by EE type. I am from the part of the world where there is energy scarcity in rural areas and people in some villages have even seen light bulbs, where as in urban areas we have excess cheap energy. Electricity costs us 10 cents per kwh. And gasoline is $ 1.2 per litre. Diesel is $ 1.00 per litre.

We have no men in black or suppression in our country. We are one of the largest economies of the world after US and China.

We are in top 5 automobile producing countries in the world and number one in motorcycle production in the world.

Well, I am of the opinion that free energy philosophers like Moray B King and others should spend some time in the rigourous research and produce a working model based on their theories. Otherwise they are just promoting their books, CDs and DVDs.

I am aware of the work by Turtur which is similar to what you mentioned. But again he is also all theories and no research.

Yes there may be some still unidentified energy forms. But where is the research. Where is one single working model.

I am talking of only one watt extra. Just one fuc*** watt.... not more.

Can anyone add some value.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 25, 2014, 03:59:10 PM

Hi cadman,

We already have renewable energy, i.e., solar, wind, sea waves, ambient etc. But these are renewable energy souces and we are all aware of it. Jes Ascanius has made some 90 watts from ambient energy circuits, I read somewhere. These are all open systems.

What I am referring to is the overunity as in a self looped , self running, self powered... mechanical, electrical, magnetic, electromagnetic, electronic or a combination of these. These are all closed systems.

Even telluric current is an open system. Just leave the open systems aside.

What these guys are misguiding you is about overunity in closed systems.

By the way we already have 99% efficient motors.

I hope I made myself clear.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 25, 2014, 04:08:49 PM

this thread is going into bulshit direction and you know why >:( wake up

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 25, 2014, 04:29:59 PM

@forest,

Ever heard of "gigo" ? Garbage in - garbage out. This thread was started by the biggest bullshitter on this forum.

And what do you mean by wake up ? Only sleeping can wake up, people sleeping with open eyes cant be woken up.

By the way, your post is mildly offensive also.

Instead of answering my one watt overunity challenge, you are eschewing the way. Not very constructive way of handling the things, I must say. No offence meant.

Best

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on February 25, 2014, 04:57:14 PM

Talk about BS.. you are defining a self limiting scenario

QuoteWhat I am referring to is the overunity as in a self looped , self running, self powered... mechanical, electrical, magnetic, electromagnetic, electronic or a combination of these. These are all closed systems.

although you are wrong about the magnetic. Tell me, how are you going to self loop a magnet motor? A magnet motor is self running and self powered by definition.

Of course we can use an open system!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 25, 2014, 06:37:37 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 25, 2014, 12:11:19 PM
Disinfo agents operating on this site?

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/02/snowden-training-guide-for-gchq-nsa-agents-infiltrating-and-disrupting-alternative-media-online-2906204.html?utm_source=direct-b4in.info&utm_campaign=&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FfUWX&utm_medium=verticalresponse&utm_content=beforeit39snews-verticalresponse (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/02/snowden-training-guide-for-gchq-nsa-agents-infiltrating-and-disrupting-alternative-media-online-2906204.html?utm_source=direct-b4in.info&utm_campaign=&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FfUWX&utm_medium=verticalresponse&utm_content=beforeit39snews-verticalresponse)

;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on February 25, 2014, 07:12:37 PM

@forest

You may have something with your thoughts about caps. All this crap started right after your posts.

Whew, they are just popping out of the woodwork aren't they. Talk about relentless.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on February 25, 2014, 07:32:58 PM

" There is no conspiracy from the governments "

I ran that one by world renowned psychic Clara Voyant.

According to Clara, the spirits of JFK, RFK, MLK, and John Lennon all came through at the same time.

The only words she was able to make out above much laughter, snorting, and what sounded like knee slapping, was, they wanted to hear why Building 7 collapsed.

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 25, 2014, 09:47:30 PM

@ Loner,

I am a scientist and fortunately without blinkers on my eyes. I am open to breaking old laws of Physics. I am all for dicovering new hitherto unknown sources of energy.

Yes there is something really weird caps behave at times, I watched Eric's video on his Corolla twice and noted his words that even when the alternator of the car had popped out, he was able to run his car on his 12 /24 volt magic box converter and the tuning fork thingy from world war 2 and the tuning fork will keep on humming for next 5 minutes even after swiching off the magic box.

I believe Eric and his words. The guy has no axe to grind.

There are some patents by one OSAMU IDE on a related thing.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u5jb2bveg9bbhq7/Osamu%20Ide%20-%20Increased%20voltage%20phenomenon%20in%20a%20resonance%20circuit%20of%20unconventional%20magnetic%20configuration.pdf

AND

http://www.rexresearch.com/ide/ide.htm

You appreciate its an open source forum and people here are from world over and here to share ideas about alternate energy. People join the forum, solve their problems by discussing with other members and when they have something partly working, they either start behaving like school kids or open their own forums where memberships are on a paid monthly basis. Now thats called leeching. Greedy by nature.

Others start milking gullible delusional investors. Mr Wayne here is a good example on this forum.

You can not make money from free energy circuits. Offer them open source if you think you have something viable. Let the whole mankind benefit from it.

Stop playing hide and seek games with forum members who have solved your problems and guided you in making something viable.

What happened to Ismail Aviso. Another thing of past and will be forgotten after sometime.

Its the greed to become a millionaire overnight that keeps mankind suffering. A free energy open sourcing inventor will always be welcomed and treated like a king, anywhere they go on the planet.

So the crux is, share if you have something, let others improve upon it and open source the technology. Or else get the fuc# outta here and mind your own business.

Peer review and replication is very much required here as well.

At least thats how I see it.

Best

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 25, 2014, 09:49:28 PM

Quote from: Loner on February 25, 2014, 08:46:41 PM

This is all almost enough to convince me that something stated on this thread has actually caught the attention of unwanted parties. It is certainly enough to force me to re-read the last hundred or so posts just to see what that might have been stated. If I miss it, I'm certain someone else will see what it was and we will all learn something, at least. I, myself, cannot be certain this effect was from this thread. Remember, misdirection is one heck of a tool.

Ive been there and felt that way a few times. Not just this thread.

Ive also gotten uncomfortable a few times, when I was doing a LOT of thinking and posting here, where Tito would bring up some new idea to the table in the middle of a particular subject/project/experiment I would be working on. I would get angry at times because of it. ::) Was just thinking about it recently. One time was when I made the little Tesla coil. When the subject change came is when I had shown using a 1 turn loop at the top of the TC secondary, lighting a 12v mini bulb. So now I wonder if there is anything to it, as in, if we have that long single layer coil, with the primary at one end, and the pickup at the other end, does the loading of the pickup affect the input to the primary. ??? I sorta put it off as possibly nothing back then, as I was able to light the same bulb directly off of the 1kv neon inverter that was charging the discharge caps, and much brighter. But I may need to set that up again. Still have it.

Anyway, No offense Teets. That was then, this is now. ;) If there is anything I can recall that 'may' have been of some importance towards our goal, Ill post them.

Another thing I may not have done right when doing some experiments, was using a bifi as a primary. The idea back then was to have a rod core(ferrite), and wind a secondary first onto the core. Add a few layers of electrical tape on top of the sec winding for spacing, or what ever, masking tape works good too. Then wind the bifi primary onto the tape.

The idea was that when the bifi was given input, its field is attracted to the core, and the field induces the secondary along the way. But when the secondary(loaded) field, is mostly put to the core, rather than influencing the primary. ??? Ive been thinking on that a lot also.

If anyone wishes to try these things, please do. Been getting cars ready for the Amelia island car show next week. Just had a big show a couple weeks ago. Lost of prep. Im going to wind a ferrite later this evening. Nothing big. But I need to do some further test on that. Its bothering me. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 25, 2014, 10:17:50 PM

Quote from: Google on February 25, 2014, 09:47:30 PM
@ Loner,

I am a scientist and fortunately without blinkers on my eyes. I am open to breaking old laws of Physics. I am all for dicovering new hitherto unknown sources of energy.

Yes there is something really weird caps behave at times, I watched Eric's video on his Corolla twice and noted his words that even when the alternator of the car had popped out, he was able to run his car on his 12 /24 volt magic box converter and the tuning fork thingy from world war 2 and the tuning fork will keep on humming for next 5 minutes even after swiching off the magic box. He also mentioned that the key is to quick charge and discharge the caps, 100s of cycles per second. And the tuning fork was able to do it by minimising losses, because the thing hummed at a particular resonant frequency that required only a miniscule energy to maintain its amplitude.

Now does this ring any bells in your head ? Did the thing use EMF to keep ringing without using much current at the resonant frequency.

But from where the extra energy came from, that still kept the batteries charged, even without a working alternator.
I believe Eric and his words. The guy has no axe to grind.

There are some patents by one OSAMU IDE on a related thing.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u5jb2bveg9bbhq7/Osamu%20Ide%20-%20Increased%20voltage%20phenomenon%20in%20a%20resonance%20circuit%20of%20unconventional%20magnetic%20configuration.pdf

AND

http://www.rexresearch.com/ide/ide.htm

You appreciate its an open source forum and people here are from world over and here to share ideas about alternate energy. People join the forum, solve their problems by discussing with other members and when they have something partly working, they either start behaving like school kids or open their own forums where memberships are on a paid monthly basis. Now thats called leeching. Greedy by nature.

Others start milking gullible delusional investors. Mr Wayne here is a good example on this forum.

You can not make money from free energy circuits. Offer them open source if you think you have something viable. Let the whole mankind benefit from it.

Stop playing hide and seek games with forum members who have solved your problems and guided you in making something viable.

What happened to Ismail Aviso. Another thing of past and will be forgotten after sometime.

Its the greed to become a millionaire overnight that keeps mankind suffering. A free energy open sourcing inventor will always be welcomed and treated like a king, anywhere they go on the planet.

So the crux is, share if you have something, let others improve upon it and open source the technology. Or else get the fuc# outta here and mind your own business.

Peer review and replication is very much required here as well.

At least thats how I see it.

Best

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 25, 2014, 10:39:25 PM

Dont stop there Googs. Double up and tripple up them repeat posts.

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg389687/#msg389687

Sometimes you just have to beat it in to us, ya know. ;) ::) What do ya got, 10, 50 more pages to make your point? ::) From what Ive read from your posts so far, I think I get your point. Anything more I should be aware of, or is that it? ??? There are many pages of others saying just as you have, right here in this thread already, in case you havnt read it through. Just letting you know, and I only need to say it once. Right? ;)

You mentioned Romero as being a fraud. Can you prove that statement? ::) ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 25, 2014, 10:55:33 PM

Quote from: Loner on February 25, 2014, 10:29:45 PM
Mags, that is interesting.

I worked on that exact concept of the single turn at the top of a "Tower" coil. I went a slightly different route and I'll give you my results. I learned (From reading a paper.) that the tesla tower, being a resonant device, has a tremendous voltage gain. It is also a non-linear component, as in, the current IS NOT linear. There is a much ignored possibility there, as I have posted before, that instead of tuning the peak at the top of the coil, tune it for the center. The top will then be at 0V, which, if done correctly, could allow this component to be used in Both ways. (Linear and Non-linear.)

A single turn could then pick up a LOT more power than what it takes to setup the standing wave, but that is where I ran into trouble and stopped playing. (Got bored as well...) The tuning is very touchy. I spent a couple days just to be able to "See" the tuning on a scope by using a one wire pickup, but I was shocked to see that my body could de-tune the thing from more than 5 feet away. As I am not into decoding Smith charts as they relate to this type of tuning, and setting up and walking away was not an option, I had to give up at that point.

The concept is sound, but it proved to be more trouble that I was willing to deal with.

I wish you all the luck. If you could lock down the tuning for a specific load.... I'd love to see it.

Hey Loner

You always have some good input. ;) I was thinking that my TC wasnt really tuned. I built it on a wim in a couple hours. Was a good experience with what it was.

But I have some new ideas to expand on that. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 26, 2014, 02:17:31 AM

Loner, thanks. I believe it is all about radio waves.I believe in simple nature thus EMF is radio wave, but not that kind we are taught in school. Remember , there are various waves like in case of light ; you could have white warm light and a sharp polarised laser beam.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on February 26, 2014, 04:05:11 AM

Hello All,

I got some three terminals caps from scrap.

I fond a strange thing with them, which i want to share with you.

I charged the cap(24-VDC and remove the power supply) via A and B terminals.

Then i check with my Fluke17B voltmeter, voltage across;

A,B= 24VDC.

B,C=2VDC

A,C = 18VDC which stay at 18VDC although i short them and check again it stay again at 18VDC, but found that no current while discharging AC.

I hope somebody better explain this cap behavior.

Thanks and regards,

D.J

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Lakes on February 26, 2014, 04:52:54 AM

Never seen a three terminal cap before.

Guessing that it's two in series?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 26, 2014, 06:58:35 AM

Someone has already staked the finders right over any zpe devices coming in future. ;D ;D ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB-jWfzkz_E

http://www.dipoleantigravity.blogspot.in/2013/03/finders-right.html

Contact him to buy a part of the rights. ;D ;D ;D

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 26, 2014, 07:12:36 AM

Its like beating your head against a rock >:(

If you want to draw energy from the ambient you have to study and understand what the ambient consists of and how to pull energy from it.

OXYGEN - NITROGEN

REMOVING ELECTRONS

IONIZATION

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 26, 2014, 07:20:04 AM

http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/Inorganic_Chemistry/Descriptive_Chemistry/Periodic_Table_of_the_Elements/Periodic_Properties_of_the_Elements

Electrolysis, separating pos (hydrogen) and neg (oxygen)

Ionization, separating a neg electron from a pos nucleus

starting to see the similarity's yet?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 26, 2014, 07:22:21 AM

http://randuff.blogspot.com/2011/06/trends-in-periodic-table.html (http://randuff.blogspot.com/2011/06/trends-in-periodic-table.html)

Look at radium ;)

where it lies in the periodic table, very easy to pull an electron from - using ionization

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 26, 2014, 07:38:18 AM

Lets see how can I emphasize this

IONIZATION

IONIZATION

IONIZATION

SEPARATE - COLLECT

;)

Im out
later
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 26, 2014, 09:16:04 AM

So if the earth were a coil what would happen if the magnetic field were to collapse at the moment the field was charged by the flare.

What would happen if the field were to collapse without a charged field- less energy
Use ionization to charge the field

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NoMoreSlave on February 26, 2014, 04:44:01 PM

Hi Dave,

by creating that ionization in a Vacuum tube or valve through a Capacitor Multi-discharge, we can get the juice from that ether!
that's T.H Moray secret.

Thank you for sharing you point of view!
Regards,
NMS

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 26, 2014, 06:02:22 PM

ive read keeping the discharge in a vacuum like stefan did in Fluoro tube...
A high discharge rate in a plasma ball melts the glass
either a busted neon lamp for the arc ????? placed in Mag s T coil or Slayer
and put into bifi cores by Tito drawn by Gyula
Another way is the use of relays for spark gap supplied by hv from flyback ????
8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 26, 2014, 07:34:27 PM

Something more I was thinking about today with the bifi and secondary on a rod core. I remember the reason for the rod core instead of a closed core. The closed core would not help keep the sec field from impacting the primary. But in the Utkin pdf, he shows a secondary wound on the center peg of an Ecore(closed core) and the primary wound around the outside of the core. Thinking about it, this should be better than the rod core, as virtually all of the sec field will be locked in the core, within a power range of course.

So thinking on the Utkin version, when the primary produces field, the core as a whole is magnetized as if it were just say a rod core. But then the sec field would say for example produce a NS on the peg that it is wound on and the outer pegs SN. Dunno how all that mixes yet. But the primary would influence all 3 pegs NS NS NS, and the sec would want to do otherwise.

It all reminds me of that shell transformer where the guy had the sec wound on a toroid core, then he made a iron shell, like a big doughnut, cut like a bagel and the sec/toroid was put inside the shell. Then he wound a primary around the shell in a toroid fashion. It was on of Teslas transformer patents.

But the Utkin ecore version seems like an easier go, to get the same result.

Ill see what I can do.

Will have to try both pulsing the bifi primary and just ac in at its resonant freq. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 26, 2014, 08:11:56 PM

they made some progress with tv coax cable in their coil maybe i will try this

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 26, 2014, 08:25:38 PM

My 'Quote' button isnt working on the page. ::)

In the Utkin pdf, he talks about asymmetric capacitors. I been thinking that might be one reason for using coax. Not sure why yet. Asymmeric cap is one with a small plate(area) and a large plate.

I may be wrong on the coax as a cap.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 26, 2014, 11:56:44 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 26, 2014, 08:25:38 PM
My 'Quote' button isnt working on the page. ::)

In the Utkin pdf, he talks about asymmetric capacitors. I been thinking that might be one reason for using coax. Not sure why yet. Asymmeric cap is one with a small plate(area) and a large plate.

I may be wrong on the coax as a cap.

Mags

hmm ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on February 27, 2014, 06:32:38 AM

Electrostatic tension
http://chemelec.com/Projects/Electrostatic/Electrostatic.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 27, 2014, 01:02:46 PM

I would recommend everyone to study the V. Utkin pdf files. There seem to be updated versions that have either more info and/or differences. Not sure if there are newer than I have. I have a couple that have differences.

But all in all, he covers a lot of ground with several ideas. And some of it isnt difficult to do. It seems a bit cryptic, but I think less cryptic than say Bearden, or Tito, the master of impossible puzzles. ;D Always a missing piece in the box. :-\

I think once we get to 'know' the basics of what the pdf shows, it may help to figure out what we need to get things going.

I need to read through it more myself, to try and get a grip. ::) ;D

Tito talked about a 'supporting coil' recently. I think we can find what he is talking about in the pdf. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 27, 2014, 02:40:42 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 27, 2014, 01:02:46 PM
I would recommend everyone to study the V. Utkin pdf files. There seem to be updated versions that have either more info and/or differences. Not sure if there are newer than I have. I have a couple that have differences.

But all in all, he covers a lot of ground with several ideas. And some of it isnt difficult to do. It seems a bit cryptic, but I think less cryptic than say Bearden, or Tito, the master of impossible puzzles. ;D Always a missing piece in the box. :-\

I think once we get to 'know' the basics of what the pdf shows, it may help to figure out what we need to get things going.

I need to read through it more myself, to try and get a grip. ::) ;D

Tito talked about a 'supporting coil' recently. I think we can find what he is talking about in the pdf. ;)

Mags

do you have the updated utkin file tnx 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 27, 2014, 04:18:52 PM

Quote from: totoalas on February 27, 2014, 02:40:42 PM
do you have the updated utkin file tnx 8)

Dear totoalas.

Try this !!

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Utkin.htm

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 27, 2014, 05:52:28 PM

Quote from: Atommix on February 27, 2014, 05:18:35 PM
Dear zero-point plumber ! I am fully aware of all the junk in the file you have made a like to . If any of it was worth exploring it would be what the world would be using but its not is it ! I most certainly don't use anything as out dated as that .

Also this universe is built in by quantum mechanics and every action has a re-action ! There term positive feed back tho interesting has many problems that you cant see .

Particle field coherence is the problem ! I did say does it attract radon and yes it does does it attract other static fields and yes it does.

I also asked is there any health and safety reports on it and no there is not ! Can a qualified engineer give it a Q C check and no they cant .

Do you know what most of these systems do to the growth of plants and DNA no you don't ! They stop the growth of plants !

UN like you I run an engineering dept with strict rules on health and safety ! My zero-point motor runs at zero volts zero amps . AND THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WILL NEVER ACHIEVE !

We have been at this game for over 40 years looking for a safe way round all the unknown problems you couldn't give a dam for .

Now get your high voltage feed back and stick it under your bed and make sure you move to ground level where a lot of radon is hiding. Also when you see the adverse effects happen around you than you may begin to question the reality of the real situation you face.

Just because it works means nothing unless its safe ! Energy must come from somewhere even if it comes from nothing .

An endless supply from negative feed back is what you think is energy ? no that's not energy its an amplification of the resonance of atomic energy that makes all the parts in the system. So its atomic energy !

you totalass

Go find something new to play with maybe jump up and down and see if you can fly without wings .

ATOMMIX
Thanks
already done that with flying colors ..... have you gone and see the sixth dimension .... have u encountered the 12 pillars ??????
too much use of keyboard is a health hazard why not show ur UFO friend
If ur intelligence or IQ is higher than anybody else then congratulation
Here in OU community there is a magic word UNITY universal
HEAD BASHING IS BETTER THAN NEGATIVE ASSERTION
POSITIVE ASSERTION PUT THE BURDEN OF PROOF ON YOUR POSTS
CHEERS 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 27, 2014, 06:58:14 PM

Quote from: Grumage on February 27, 2014, 04:18:52 PM
Dear totoalas.

Try this !!

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Utkin.htm (http://www.free-energy-info.com/Utkin.htm)

Cheers Grum.

Thanks Grum

I had only gotten mine when others posted it as an attachment. This link has even more and different things than my old ones, just looking through it quickly. ;D

I think this will give us at least a sense of direction, and several directions at that. Lets see what we can do. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 27, 2014, 07:02:07 PM

Radioshack has double sided copper clad boards that would make great capacitor plates for some experiments in the Utkin file. ;)

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102495

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 27, 2014, 07:08:41 PM

Quote from: Atommix on February 27, 2014, 05:18:35 PM
Dear zero-point plumber ! I am fully aware of all the junk in the file you have made a like to . If any of it was worth exploring it would be what the world would be using but its not is it ! I most certainly don't use anything as out dated as that .

Also this universe is built in by quantum mechanics and every action has a re-action ! There term positive feed back tho interesting has many problems that you cant see .

Particle field coherence is the problem ! I did say does it attract radon and yes it does does it attract other static fields and yes it does.

I also asked is there any health and safety reports on it and no there is not ! Can a qualified engineer give it a Q C check and no they cant .

Do you know what most of these systems do to the growth of plants and DNA no you don't ! They stop the growth of plants !

UN like you I run an engineering dept with strict rules on health and safety ! My zero-point motor runs at zero volts zero amps . AND THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WILL NEVER ACHIEVE !

We have been at this game for over 40 years looking for a safe way round all the unknown problems you couldn't give a dam for .

Now get your high voltage feed back and stick it under your bed and make sure you move to ground level where a lot of radon is hiding. Also when you see the adverse effects happen around you than you may begin to question the reality of the real situation you face.

Just because it works means nothing unless its safe ! Energy must come from somewhere even if it comes from nothing .

An endless supply from negative feed back is what you think is energy ? no that's not energy its an amplification of the resonance of atomic energy that makes all the parts in the system. So its atomic energy !

you totalass

Go find something new to play with maybe jump up and down and see if you can fly without wings .

ATOMMIX

Oh, I found an article that was written just about you Atom. ;)

http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/govt-handbook-for-internet-trolls-uncovered/

Seems like a very accurate description 8) , dont ya think people? ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 27, 2014, 08:07:22 PM

"Sit there and pick your nose and all you get is a bogey"

I dont want anything from you. You insult us and expect us to fall to our knees. ::)

One more long page post of garbage from you and I will make a plea to have you removed from this forum. And Im sure I can get many here to 'join me' on that resolution. That you can count on. ;)

Grow up. Your posts are nothing of an example of someone who is the head of engineering anything. Most all you write is immaturity, and ignorance, and most likely lies. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on February 27, 2014, 09:00:51 PM

If I had the key to the food bank and the jail, and waited one more day before using it to feed and free the slaves, what would that make me ?

I would not be able to live with myself.

Put up or shove off...that is his position.

Someone needs to repost the last few pages before this distraction appeared.

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 27, 2014, 09:46:59 PM

Ok, you asked for it. ;) This text below will be sent to Stefan....

Hey Stefan

Myself and some others are becoming very tired of Atommix posts. He posts on numerous threads here, mostly with LONG posts insulting what we are all trying to do here, and claiming he has all the secrets of OU devices, OU dvices that we will never have. Also the huge spacing at the bottom of most of his posts really leaves not much space for our posts per page.

Check out his posts and you will get my drift. Can you please look into it and do what ever can be done about it? Its really getting tiresome.

Thanks

Mags

;) Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 27, 2014, 11:13:42 PM

Quote from: Atommix on February 27, 2014, 10:30:53 PM
That is the most polite complaint I have ever had ! Now I have stated many times I make zero-point technology and atomic energy not over unity technology . Also If I read something that is nuts or wrong or dam right dangerous than as a human being I must say something . Plus what is the point of a post if you cant except that other people will not always see things the same point of view as you ??? ?? Also this is a global open debate it did not mention its a closed door private members club and only the few that are chosen are invited .

Sorry pips but freedom of speech can also be ignored why bother listening to me don't read my thoughts ignore them move on .

I run my own engineering dpt and head a top science team run my own company wit government money but some here say I don't ! I am not complaining or even get upset but this nonsense is emitting from them that are happy to make up the rules of science as they go along !

Do I KNOW EVERYTHING ! YES I DO ! ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING ! And add to it every day . I have to its how I make a living .

Atommix

"Sorry pips but freedom of speech can also be ignored why bother listening to me don't read my thoughts ignore them move on ."

The problem is you post huge posts, with huge blank space at the bottom of each post. And, youre not here to help. You tell us that what we are working on is dangerous, meanwhile Tesla lived to a ripe old age. ::) He worked 'closely' on systems that make your claims seem small. ;) ;) ;) You are discouraging work here, and thats about it. ;)

"Also If I read something that is nuts or wrong or dam right dangerous than as a human being I must say something . Plus what is the point of a post if you cant except that other people will not always see things the same point of view as you ??? ??"

The word is ACCEPT!!!!! Not except. ::) Finally, Ive said it. ;D

" I must say something "

Again and again and again??????????? And again???????? WE HEARD YOU!!!! When will you realize that nobody cares? ;)

"Do I KNOW EVERYTHING ! YES I DO ! ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING ! And add to it every day "

Lol. Do you know what you just said here? You claim to know 'everything'. So, how do you add to that, when you know everything already??? :o ::) ;) And, the word is ACCEPT!!! Mr know everything. Accept that. ;)

"I run my own engineering dpt and head a top science team run my own company wit government money but some here say I don't !"

Well, yes, it is very hard to believe. Your Village site has much better grammar than you produce in any of your posts. So it is hard to believe that you had anything to do with that. ;)

"Also this is a global open debate it did not mention its a closed door private members club and only the few that are chosen are invited ."

But your way of debating is to say we are always going to be wrong and you are always right without a smidgin of proof. Thats not a debate. Again, you show that you dont know much at all. :P

You are here to sell something. I see no buyers. Anyone? Anyone here want to join the village people??? Nope. ;)

If you are not here to sell something, then you are here to disrupt and discourage. 8) Because you are surely not here to help in the least. 8) That is fact. You leave evidence of it every day. 8)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on February 27, 2014, 11:40:10 PM

And the elephant in the room wood be...

'Hey Ethel, say, wooden it be a lot easier to save these rudderless experimenters from killing themselves, by just showing them the right way to do it ?'

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 27, 2014, 11:42:01 PM

@magluvin and atommix,

Please stop fighting like school kids. Enough. Stefan is not and will never behave like a school headmaster, acting on your petty complaints. Please stop referring other people as trolls, who disagree with you, for want of any proof of what you have blurted out in 311 pages.

If someone is saying your tech is bad for health, ask him to prove it. If he cant prove, atommix should shut up for the good of this thread.

The real problem is that you guys including atommix dont share anything that you have. You guys talk in riddles and playing psychological games like NIGGYSOB etc. If Tito or Atommix have something, why the hell cant they share it here. Let them patent their devices first and then share. Afterall both might have learnt something from free energy forums, so its time to give it back and help others to replicate it, improve upon it and that will be good for everyone here.

Afterall energy has to come from somewhere.

I earnestly request everyone here to stop playing hide and seek games and persue the common goal for the good of
all.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 28, 2014, 12:24:44 AM

Quote from: Google on February 27, 2014, 11:42:01 PM
@magluvin and atommix,

Please stop fighting like school kids. Enough. Stefan is not and will never behave like a school headmaster, acting on your petty complaints. Please stop referring other people as trolls, who disagree with you, for want of any proof of what you have blurted out in 311 pages.

If someone is saying your tech is bad for health, ask him to prove it. If he cant prove, atommix should shut up for the good of this thread.

The real problem is that you guys including atommix dont share anything that you have. You guys talk in riddles and playing psychological games like NIGGYSOB etc. If Tito or Atommix have something, why the hell cant they share it here. Let them patent their devices first and then share. Afterall both might have learnt something from free energy forums, so its time to give it back and help other replicate it.

I earnestly request everyone here to stop playing hide and seek games and persue the common goal for the good of
all.

Best,

Im just tired of it. Totoalas, Aking, and Dave. Im sure they are tired of it also.

Have you ever read the SAWS document on the US pat office website? Well start lookin. lol, try and pat something that is 99%eff on a consumer level, let alone 101% or better. I believe it was you that stated that there are motors that are 99% eff. Can you show me proof of that? 99%??? Maybe 95% and possibly 98%. But 99%?? ::)

"Please stop referring other people as trolls, who disagree with you, for want of any proof of what you have blurted out in 311 pages."

Well if the name fits. Look up internet troll for some definition on the subject, being that you brought it up. ;)

First off, I dont find Atoms posts as proclaiming to disagree. Read his posts, if you can stomach it long enough to get his drift. Its about telling us we have nothing and will never have anything in this field of research, unless we join the village people. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Come everyone. The train is here. It will take you to the food. Strip down and place all your belongings in the basket. Its time for group showers in the big room down the stairs. ::)

He says he will offer help. But there is a price attached. ;)
http://www.overunity.com/13080/need-real-working-free-energy-device-for-sell/msg390004/#msg390004

If you think he is just one of the guys, then help him out. He is selling energy devices that if he claimed were OU, he would not have gotten the gov grant he claims to have. :o :o ;) ;)

"But the problem is if you say its OU or another energy source you hit the wall and get nowhere."
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg389975/#msg389975

Think Googs. The guy admits to getting gov money, that he claims to use to build OU devices, that he cant admit to the gov he got the money from, that he is selling OU devices. lol get a grip. ;)

Welcome to the Village people. :o :o :o :o :o :o ;D
Its not even up to par with a common Nigerian scam. ::)

And you complain about the 311 pages. Well, there would be a lot fewer pages, if these issues did not occur. ;) Like I said, this thread has seen it all bud. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 12:51:23 AM

@magluvin

Agreed.

Atommix please patent your tech and share with the world. No point blowing the trumpet, coz proof of pudding is in the eating.

And if you wanna sell, please list your products and prices. I will talk to my New Delhi Chief Minister to buy your tech and feed the grid in New Delhi as New Delhi has no energy production of its own and buys electricity from other neighbouring states, who produce atomic and hydroelectric power. During hot summer months there is always an energy crisis in New Delhi.

But proof first. Please post a video in which you may display a small unit producing 1 kwatt from 1 watt input.

I am all for free energy, as long as you can scientifically explain, where from the extra energy being pulled in the system. I am a Chemical Engineer but fortunately have some good grip on Physics as well.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 28, 2014, 12:55:50 AM

everything said
let us go back before the posts of Atommix
share our half bake ideas
and continue what were doing

cant resist the side comment
more posts means one rank in HERO hiearchy 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 28, 2014, 01:04:39 AM

So maybe he can start his own thread. Being he claims that his devices are beyond what we have ideas for, then it should be a new subject. He has hit up a lot of different threads already, and people are not digging it. Check for yourself.

Nobody in this thread seems to be interested, except possibly you. ;) So no more sales pitches needed here.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 28, 2014, 01:07:48 AM

Quote from: totoalas on February 28, 2014, 12:55:50 AM
everything said
let us go back before the posts of Atommix
share our half bake ideas
and continue what were doing

See Googs? ;) Not just me. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 28, 2014, 01:16:08 AM

Hey Toto

What do you think of the Utkin file? ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 01:20:05 AM

Must watch the Current Amplification videos by Igor Moroz.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 01:22:26 AM

@magluvin

agreed. agreed with you. :D

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 28, 2014, 01:23:20 AM

Quote from: Google on February 28, 2014, 01:20:05 AM
Must watch the Current Amplification videos by Igor Moroz.

Best,

Akula?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 01:31:52 AM

IT CT current transformer and other quite interesting videos. He doesnt claim overunity but displays some interesting results. He also shows a Kapanazde type device in another video.

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=it%20ct%20current%20transformer%20igor%20moroz&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCoQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DX5bA__Aj12I&ei=zSwQU7n_OIWqrAfn2IGoAQ&usg=AFQjCNETPBYgv7RjTE56MxkAQalt4sd6SQ&sig2=AVDqgvFfeOka0Kg28puFUw&bvm=bv.61965928,d.bmk

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 01:51:11 AM

@a.king21,

This makes another interesting side read. http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 28, 2014, 01:57:21 AM

ive seen the link before and reread it several times goldmine
as for Igor secondary ferrite rings to wet bulbs reminds me of barbosa
where I use a transformer as output

im thinking of adding davros 1.5 v flyback driver in the primary and wrap another without connection to the one wire 2 turns in parallel with earth wire will increase the output of the loop
dc plus ac mix as a simple spak gap bet primary and secondary above
in gyulas circuit of tito
instead of pwm pulsing the bifi primary via spdt relay i replaced with hv from ignition coil and thus produced a spark gap tjhus eliminating mechanical switching

this can also be used in 12 v battery to cap parallel then series to back to source
im the only one who tried gyulas circuit
anybody else want to try
davro has circuit to covert hv hf to low v u can try mags with ur tesla coil for a loop ?? 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 02:00:08 AM

Wish if somehow we could combine voltage and current amplification in stages and use some part of the energy to loop back the system. I went to TC,s website and found it interesting to use diodes being used instead of snap switches.
http://tarielkapanadze.ru/science-eng.htm
http://tarielkapanadze.ru/concept.htm

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 02:05:19 AM

@magluvin....the thread is back on its track and we will make it supersonic ;D ;D

@toto... please please please dont forget to share results via YT that helps others to improve upon it :) :)

Better to work as a team and comeup with open source free energy designs.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 28, 2014, 02:39:03 AM

:) wjem a circuit is introduced we can test or the one with parts to veify

thats the only way to fast track like what Gyula did when he drw titos circuit
thats how we did in Slayer thread we made it to the max design and move on with success
as yiu sat part by part suggestions are welcome
tito have something so do we 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 03:19:13 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 28, 2014, 03:47:55 AM

Guys

Let's all who can try to build Akula 30W device, I feel it may help us. Woring with higher wattage is difficult due to mosfets burning all the time but here is very small device yet if real would give us something extraordinary : HOPE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 03:55:52 AM

Quote from: forest on February 28, 2014, 03:47:55 AM
Guys

Let's all who can try to build Akula 30W device, I feel it may help us. Woring with higher wattage is difficult due to mosfets burning all the time but here is very small device yet if real would give us something extraordinary : HOPE

Each baby step taken in the right direction with positive attitude will lead to extraordinary results. :)

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 28, 2014, 04:14:04 AM

less parts and off the shelf will be the best
lay down the parts stages schematics then we can all have reference points and exchange of good and bad results as well 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 05:14:40 AM

@totoalas, watch the video series of MrStanleZ on YT. He gives step by step instructions to replicate Akula circuit. Who takes the responsibility of listing all the parts required to replicate it ?
Why not you do it for us totoalas ? The first thing is winding the coil setup. What dia PVC pipe. How many turns, what gauge wires etc.

Best

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 28, 2014, 05:56:49 AM

Quote from: Google on February 28, 2014, 05:14:40 AM
@totoalas, watch the video series of MrStanleZ on YT. He gives step by step instructions to replicate Akula circuit. Who takes the responsibility of listing all the parts required to replicate it ?
Why not you do it for us totoalas ? The first thing is winding the coil setup. What dia PVC pipe. How many turns, what gauge wires etc.

Best

NO, why start with complicated big device ? I mean better try 30W schematic.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 06:02:59 AM

@forest, good idea, post some links / videos/ schema to start with.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 28, 2014, 06:03:49 AM

Quote from: forest on February 28, 2014, 05:56:49 AM

NO, why start with complicated big device ? I mean better try 30W schematic.

Like forest said 30 w igor latest video can be a reference
One step at time
Now throw in all the info guys ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 06:10:30 AM

@totoalas, but igor never claims overunity, anyways decide fast, what we wanna start on. Electronic parts are dirt cheap here, if you can gimme the exact schema, I will commit time and resources. But schema has to be detailed for ease of building.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 28, 2014, 06:27:22 AM

Hi Forest
Can u share the 30 W schematic
so Google and me are in Any more takers
Ou or not ou but a dc solar or wind power supplied is good enough
but thats the final goal maybe 8)
Igors work serves as an inspiration thats its doable
Nickz with geofusion circuit is doing well with 400 w load

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 06:32:59 AM

Ok post the detailed schema to start with and list of parts.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 28, 2014, 06:40:14 AM

follow this thread http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/21240/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 28, 2014, 06:45:09 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 28, 2014, 07:41:32 AM

Quote from: Google on February 28, 2014, 01:51:11 AM
@a.king21,

This makes another interesting side read. http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm)

Best,

I agree with most of it, but you have to agree that satellite communication can not be through the ground.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 28, 2014, 08:23:00 AM

Dear All.

With regard to the recent posts of a working Akula 30 W device I have already been in touch with the MD of RM Cybernetics. He is willing to build the electronics but has told me that getting the schematic capture and layout is the VERY expensive bit !!

Is there anyone out there who would be willing to put in the effort towards producing this device ??

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 08:28:53 AM

Hi all,

If someone has a scibed account please download and make a pdf file and upload on this thread for the benefit of all. I dont have, otherwise I would surely have uploaded.

"All the electrons move in one direction at the same time, all the electrons"

http://pt.scribd.com/mobile/doc/188158161/device_features

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 08:32:58 AM

Quote from: Grumage on February 28, 2014, 08:23:00 AM
Dear All.

With regard to the recent posts of a working Akula 30 W device I have already been in touch with the MD of RM Cybernetics. He is willing to build the electronics but has told me that getting the schematic capture and layout is the VERY expensive bit !!

Is there anyone out there who would be willing to put in the effort towards producing this device ??

Cheers Grum.

Schematic capture from ? And layout as in ? Can you please elaborate upon it. I understand parts are not expensive.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 28, 2014, 08:44:12 AM

Quote from: Google on February 28, 2014, 08:32:58 AM
Schematic capture from ? And layout as in ? Can you please elaborate upon it. I understand parts are not expensive.

Best,

Dear Google.

My apologies !! In my haste to get the post out there I completely forgot to attach the schematic !!

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 28, 2014, 08:52:28 AM

Grum

First it has to be checked ! Second, it has to be understood ! Last, I spent already a week (for a 2-4 hours daily) to make schematic in kicad , collect parts , wind transformer and even if I would publish pcb here it does not match parts you have. Better let everyone judge from results and finally some electronic circuit seller would also participate. I don't like to give my hard work for free to let a firm sell kits easier ! >:( Let them do their job once proved or rest in silence when disproved....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 28, 2014, 09:09:04 AM

Google

Done.Get it here : http://www.overunity.com/downloads/sa/downfile/id/559/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 09:45:56 AM

Thanks grum and forest !!

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 11:03:11 AM

@ all,

The YT channel of "FreeEnergyLT" is mind blowing. I am so sad that I dont understand Russian.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 28, 2014, 03:35:14 PM

Hi forest
cab you pm methe parts equivalent that you bought

or can somebogy give the equivalent parts
R wattage
Caps voltage
transistor eqyuvalent
mosfet equivalent
ytansformer construction winding coil turns
shop is open only today
tnx
this can power up a solar panel

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 28, 2014, 03:40:52 PM

Quote from: Grumage on February 28, 2014, 08:23:00 AM
Dear All.

With regard to the recent posts of a working Akula 30 W device I have already been in touch with the MD of RM Cybernetics. He is willing to build the electronics but has told me that getting the schematic capture and layout is the VERY expensive bit !!

Is there anyone out there who would be willing to put in the effort towards producing this device ??

Cheers Grum.

if we have a replicatuin working i can send to china for quotation for pcb printing or complete circuit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on February 28, 2014, 09:51:21 PM

@grum, forest & totoalas,

I have an old trusted electronics mechanic here, who has been deep in electronics since the tube radio days. The guy is simply marvellous and has all the necessary equipment like scope and etc.

If we have a parts list and circuit diagram I can get is made and tuned here. Countrys largest electronic component market is just 20 km from my place. There are many PCB makers there, doing quality job at extremely competitive prices.

My email is ■space4truth■@■gmail■dot■com■

All my develeopmental efforts shall be virtually free. Forest can send me detailed parts list, schematic etc and I will get it made tuned and tested. Once proved that it works, we can move ahead as per groups decision.

I suggest totoalas, me and forest all work on the making and testing part to prove the validity of the concept first.

Definitely no firm should get the circuit to sell the kits.

Suggestions welcome.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 28, 2014, 10:24:06 PM

From the Utkin file. There are no page numbers. Its not too far from the top.

"EXPLANATION When the electric field in capacitor C is decaying, due to feeding electrical current into an inductor (not shown), the external electric field generated by the inductor tries to charge this capacitor with the inductor's displacement current. As a result, the capacitor draws energy in from the surrounding electromagnetic field, and the capacitor's voltage rises cycle by cycle.

Dave has been working on external electric fields of coils. Just below the statement above in the file, there are depictions of what looks like a coil on a tube with circular capacitor plates. Supposedly this is the capacitor feeding the inductor. From what it looks like, the coil is 2 coils, the bottom half wound one direction and the top half wound in the other direction.

To me, it looks as if the coil, top and bottom, each have an ability to alter the charge in the capacitor plates using a 'field' produced outside the coil. Ive read that statement before, but I didnt connect with the idea of how. But I just read it today and it grabbed me.

The reason it grabbed me is something that I had seen with my Lasersaber motor. If there is a connection, then I assume the top and bottom coils 'electrical fields' are from end to end of each coil. Meaning when say the top coil is at peak voltage, zero magnetic field, then the top and bottom of the top coil, are where these field charges are. Say neg at the top of the top coil and positive at the bottom of the coil nearest the top cap plate.

The whole thing seems to be on the tip of my tongue/brain. Cant spit it out. ::) But if this is anything, it may be Titos way. He always said, where the big rubber gloves. To me, it seems he is talking about possible runaway build up if not kept under control(spark gap to regulate). And this seems to be what Utkin is talking about getting from the beginning of the file/paper. ;) S self building power cycle. Each cycle adds a bit more.

Someone at OUR posted about how to use such a self building oscillator. He said to let it build, meaning add the starting input(small energy), let it build, then discharge(big energy), then apply input(small) again. But dont discharge all the way to zero. Thats probably what it means when they say, dont kill the dipole. Dont kill it because that is what is needed to start the next cycle buildup. lol Im nuts.

Ok, back to reading.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 28, 2014, 10:39:54 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 28, 2014, 10:24:06 PM

The reason it grabbed me is something that I had seen with my Lasersaber motor. If there is a connection, then I assume the top and bottom coils 'electrical fields' are from end to end of each coil. Meaning when say the top coil is at peak voltage, zero magnetic field, then the top and bottom of the top coil, are where these field charges are. Say neg at the top of the top coil and positive at the bottom of the coil nearest the top cap plate.

Ok. Was just rereading this part and my tongue jerked. Maybe the coils electrical field is max when the coils mag field is max, meaning the cap and coil voltage would be at zero. So maybe this arrangement, cap at zero or very low, but the coils field alters that and adds a bit of charge to the cap per cycle. ??? lol it seems like a wacky way of getting charge in the first place, let alone add to the system beyond losses. But Ive never thought of things this way till this. Weird but interesting. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 01, 2014, 01:57:56 AM

6000 Watts output from a 6 Watt input

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/227147316_High_Power_Subnanosecond_Generator_for_UWB_Radar

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 01, 2014, 03:27:23 AM

If parts are available in generic or other equivalent then we can start easily
Hope we knew of forest build results
Xname 41 has modified but without video
There are t least 4 modifications so which one works best
Stevpue can verify this circuit but i wonder he's quiet till now
So now just it'swaiting game
8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 01, 2014, 07:36:32 AM

Quote from: totoalas on March 01, 2014, 03:27:23 AM
If parts are available in generic or other equivalent then we can start easily
Hope we knew of forest build results
Xname 41 has modified but without video
There are t least 4 modifications so which one works best
Stevpue can verify this circuit but i wonder he's quiet till now
So now just it'swaiting game
8)

Kapanazde tech has been around since 2005, 9 long years. But no one knows the secret yet. Others who claim to have replicated it, do not share their exact circuits and parts.

I was just wondering, why show on youtube, when you dont want to share the tech. Kapanazdes invention has not made him rich. Steve Marks invention has not made him rich.

No one can make money on free energy circuits. It is proven by the above two examples.

FREE ENERGY = FREE INFORMATION.

Or else take your secret to your grave like Hendershot, Moray, Paul Baumann and others like them.

If you share the secret, you will be a hero. You will be protected and welcomed in all homes across the world.

So think guys.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 01, 2014, 10:15:53 PM

I had written to a renowned physicist about Eric's "Flux capacitor". I had sought his opinion about the "energy synthesis" process by which Eric is able to charge his batteries without external power input. Here is his reply :

" I don't see any circuit diagram in the video other than the burnt up vibrational switch. Obviously the capacitor was discharged through this vibrational switch and generated a lot of heat. It is still a spark gap style device. Even after all the heat generated, it seems like the discharge current could charge up the other battery. I think it is interesting but the mechanical switch like this is not reliable in the long run. It just proves that the capacitor does have a lot more energy than what the conventional theory says."

I am seeking his expertise in Physics and Electronics to guide me in making something worthwhile which exploits this phenomenon displayed by the capacitors.

If something good comes up I will immediately share it.
Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 01, 2014, 11:13:49 PM

Quote from: Google on March 01, 2014, 10:15:53 PM
I had written to a renowned physicist about Eric's "Flux capacitor". I had sought his opinion about the "energy synthesis" process by which Eric is able to charge his batteries without external power input. Here is his reply :

" I don't see any circuit diagram in the video other than the burnt up vibrational switch. Obviously the capacitor was discharged through this vibrational switch and generated a lot of heat. It is still a spark gap style device. Even after all the heat generated, it seems like the discharge current could charge up the other battery. I think it is interesting but the mechanical switch like this is not reliable in the long run. It just proves that the capacitor does have a lot more energy than what the conventional theory says."

I am seeking his expertise in Physics and Electronics to guide me in making something worthwhile which exploits this phenomenon displayed by the capacitors.

If something good comes up I will immediately share it.
Best,

thanks for sharing that info
mechanical oscillation for 20 years is not bad for that type of vibrator
my solution to that is use a hv on the relay where there is arc even without the relay moving
battery no cap with hv common battery 24 v nc
ive tried that in my Infinitum lighting @ 40 watts but by using a regular 12 v wall adaptor and water tap
the flyback can be run by a 1.5 v AA battery and min 5 mA up to 85 ma
that can replace my ignition coil to charge the caps

an improvement in Gyulas circuit is another feedback coil wrapped in the bifi primary in series with the secondary ( discussed here in another thread) a gap in my e core increased the ac v from 110 to 347 v ac open circuit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 01, 2014, 11:20:47 PM

http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg390329/#msg390329 (http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg390329/#msg390329)
Element 6 has mentioned a guy with his efficient UDT
reading thry this has some similarities with Gyulas circuit of Tito
His using AC while in Gyula is DC
A combination / coil turn calculations will produce better results
Maybe Gyula can take a look at this info
and I can revive my tests again 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on March 02, 2014, 01:20:33 AM

Hello all,
I suggest make the PWM seperate circuit while replicating Akula 30w.

Here is my penny to you..
Just make a few print to shrink and fit to the components. i hope with two or three try it will fit to components and save the time.

Best of luck for every one. Remember please share your results.

Regards,
D.J

P.S: Remember you can get TL494 from any old or burnt computer ATX power supply.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on March 03, 2014, 07:14:30 AM

My friends 8). The real person who shows picture and videos of the device which is related to free energy will be the only accepted here right?

Soon we will see who is the real replicator of Tesla by showing a video or pictures or maybe my prototype circuit that lead to re discovery of the work of Nikola Tesla.

My hint are: the Opposing Magnetic Field of the Load is away from the Primary Magnetic Field.
Like others did, Don Smith, Kapanadze, Carlos Benitez TWO GROUND/Earth Rod like 2 Meters
away are being utilize.
When one of the Ground/Earth is disconnected there is no real power delivered to the Low Voltage Output Transformer. Either of the Two Ground is Disconnected there is no sign of Bulb being light to very bright.

If you are interested maybe I will consider to post my prototype circuit that lead me to understand how did Tesla and others free energy re discoverer.

My friend aking.21 if you have seen the real device of Kapanadze please take a look to how did he Split into Two the 1 wire to ground rod inside his device. Actually it needs two Earth Grounding to extract energy properly.

See ya. Meow ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)

Quote from: a.king21 on February 28, 2014, 07:41:32 AM

I agree with most of it, but you have to agree that satellite communication can not be through the ground.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 03, 2014, 10:49:53 AM

Quote from: stupify12 on March 03, 2014, 07:14:30 AM
My friends 8) . The real person who shows picture and videos of the device which is related to free energy will be the only accepted here right?

Soon we will see who is the real replicator of Tesla by showing a video or pictures or maybe my prototype circuit that lead to re discovery of the work of Nikola Tesla.

My hint are: the Opposing Magnetic Field of the Load is away from the Primary Magnetic Field.
Like others did, Don Smith, Kapanadze, Carlos Benitez TWO GROUND/Earth Rod like 2 Meters
away are being utilize.
When one of the Ground/Earth is disconnected there is no real power delivered to the Low Voltage Output Transformer. Either of the Two Ground is Disconnected there is no sign of Bulb being light to very bright.

If you are interested maybe I will consider to post my prototype circuit that lead me to understand how did Tesla and others free energy re discoverer.

My friend aking.21 if you have seen the real device of Kapanadze please take a look to how did he Split into Two the 1 wire to ground rod inside his device. Actually it needs two Earth Grounding to extract energy properly.

See ya. Meow ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)

Ok pwede b masilip yan o pm mo n lang 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 05, 2014, 05:35:32 AM

@mags
;)
:-X

SSSSSSSSSSSSSShhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :-X :-X :-X

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 05, 2014, 06:17:40 AM

Time waster is back. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 05, 2014, 07:38:01 AM

@Dil Jalaay, Aa to wadda phosdida lagda haa banda, please mainu pm karyo tussi. Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 05, 2014, 08:47:03 PM

Here is the Benitez patent on slideshare for all

http://www.slideshare.net/zerofieldenergy/patents-carlos-benitez-system-for-the-generation-of-electric-currents-1915

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 05, 2014, 11:47:52 PM

Quote from: Google on March 05, 2014, 06:17:40 AM
Time waster is back. ;)

Hey! google doodle kid
If your time is wasted, why are you here in MY THREAD! YOU @#$^$%^&%^&*%^*^& >:( >:( >:(

in your previous post you said that you will show something if i will show mine.
Now if you have something why don't you show it, ahhhh see, that means you are the real time waster here, why don't you go away! >:(

I can back if i want to be back,this is my thread!, you, you go away make your own thread, and i will not waste my time in your thread, ahh seee, you are really here to waste others time. hhhmm. >:(

You are provoking me and insulting me, i did not do anything wrong with you, you !@#$%@#$@#$# >:( >:( >:(
if you are not believing what i say why don't you go away!!! >:( what common sense of staying here if i waste your time ??? ??? >:( [size=78%]?[/size]

i just get back to cheer my friend. :) no more! >:(

:P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:00:49 AM

Quote from: Google on March 05, 2014, 08:47:03 PM
Here is the Benitez patent on slideshare for all

http://www.slideshare.net/zerofieldenergy/patents-carlos-benitez-system-for-the-generation-of-electric-currents-1915 (http://www.slideshare.net/zerofieldenergy/patents-carlos-benitez-system-for-the-generation-of-electric-currents-1915)

Best,

YOU SHOW YOUR MASTER BENITEZ PATENT IN WHATEVER THREAD YOU MAKE AND I WILL NOT GO THERE UNDERSTAND !!!

YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE, UNDERSTAND GORILLA ENGLISH HUH ???

LET YOU FOLLOWER FOLLOW YOU!!!! >:(

I THINK STEFAN SHOULD DO SOMETHING TO THIS KIND OF PEOPLE.

THIS IS MY THREAD, I AM BEING INSULTED BY PEOPLE WHERE I DID NOT DO ANYTHING WRONG TO THEM. AND THIS IS MY STYLE!!!! >:( >:( >:(

THIS IS AN OLD STORY, AND BEING KEPT ON REPEATING AND REPEATING.

IF THEY DON'T LIKE ME WHY THEY ARE HERE. WHERE IS YOUR COMMON UNCOMMON SENSE! >:( :o ::) ;D

THE SOLUTION TO YOUR PROBLEM OF WASTING YOUR TIME BY ME IS SIMPLE AS A PIECE OF GOOGLE BRAIN

"JUST GO AWAY HERE, WE DON'T NEED YOUR NOT WORKING DEVICE"

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
SEE I'M HANDSOME WHEN I'M ANGRY AND HUNGRY ;D LOL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 06, 2014, 12:10:44 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 05, 2014, 05:35:32 AM
@mags
;)
:-X

SSSSSSSSSSSSSShhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :-X :-X :-X

Hey Teets.

Why shhh? Not sure what you mean. Dont cry. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:11:18 AM

The whole world knows by now, who is the white haired kid here. This thread is not your ancestral property and you can take a walk if you are not contributing anything.

You dont own this thread and you have no power to delete my posts.

Moreover your calling me names and using swearwords only exposes your family values and upbringing.

You seem to talk like a low grade nut who belongs to one of the poorest third world countries and getting sick and frustrated due to non achievement in your life.

Actually you are a loser. A big one.

Now get lost in the oblivion and let others do something you sicko Philipino Nigerian ping ping deng.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:15:31 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 05, 2014, 11:47:52 PM

Hey! google doodle kid
If your time is wasted, why are you here in MY THREAD! YOU @#$^$%^&%^&*%^*^& >:( >:( >:(

in your previous post you said that you will show something if i will show mine.
Now if you have something why don't you show it, ahhhh see, that means you are the real time waster here, why don't you go away! >:(

I can back if i want to be back,this is my thread!, you, you go away make your own thread, and i will not waste my time in your thread, ahh seee, you are really here to waste others time. hhhmm. >:(

You are provoking me and insulting me, i did not do anything wrong with you, you !@#$%@#$@#$# >:( >:( >:(
if you are not believing what i say why don't you go away!!! >:( what common sense of staying here if i waste your time ??? ??? >:( [size=78%]?[/size]

i just get back to cheer my friend. :) no more! >:(

:P

Stop using swearwords, had you been in front of me physically I could break your empty dung filled skull with my elbow.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:18:06 AM

No one is here to lick your stinky hole. If you have nothing worthwhile to share just get lost from here.

Most of the forum members are fed up of you, cant you realise that you dumbfcuk.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:18:27 AM

Anyone please report this pingpong pung google chrome to stefan.

WE are being attack by alien virus ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:21:32 AM

Quote from: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:18:06 AM
No one is here to lick your stinky hole. If you have nothing worthwhile to share just get lost from here.

Most of the forum members are fed up of you, cant you realise that you dumbfcuk.

Why don't you go away!!! >:(

isn't that simple, THIS IS MY THREAD, I OWN THIS THREAD , I MADE THIS THREAD. IS THAT TOO DIFFICULT FOR YOU.
yOU !@#$#$%#$%#$% >:( >:(

aNYONE PLEASE REPORT THIS ARROGANT LADY. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:24:49 AM

Tito,

Teri bhenn da fudda marran, maderchodya, kutti deya bacheya, randi ke moot, teri maa de chole te lunn marran. Teri maa nu tel la la ke thokan. Teri ma di phuddi de wich katte te suwar da lunn pawanan.

Hat madarchodya. Bhosdida, maiowa.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:24:51 AM

Quote from: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:11:18 AM
The whole world knows by now, who is the white haired kid here. This thread is not your ancestral property and you can take a walk if you are not contributing anything.

You dont own this thread and you have no power to delete my posts.

Moreover your calling me names and using swearwords only exposes your family values and upbringing.

You seem to talk like a low grade nut who belongs to one of the poorest third world countries and getting sick and frustrated due to non achievement in your life.

Actually you are a loser. A big one.

Now get lost in the oblivion and let others do something you sicko Philipino Nigerian ping ping deng.

NO!!!!!! IT IS YOU WHO GET LOST HERE !!!!!!!! YOU STOP YOUR PING PING DENG yOU DONG DONG PING! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:26:11 AM

Quote from: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:24:49 AM
Tito,

Teri bhenn da fudda marran, maderchodya, kutti deya bacheya, randi ke moot, teri maa de chole te lunn marran. Teri maa nu tel la la ke thokan. Teri ma di phuddi de wich katte te suwar da lunn pawanan.

Hat madarchodya. Bhosdida, maiowa.

oHH YOU KNOW MONKEY TALKING HA ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:27:51 AM

Get lost you useless stinky third world worm. Go back to your hutment and feed crumbs to your half dressed family. LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER.

TITO IS A LOSER LOSER LOSER.

TITO IS A LOSER.

TITO IS A LOSER.

Get lost Tito this is not your dads property.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:28:23 AM

yOU ARE THE ONE STARTED IT.

I AM NOT ATTACKING YOU, I EVEN DON'T KNOW YOU. WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING ME?

IS THAT A SIGN OF FRUSTRATION. OHH HOW PITY YOU ARE. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:30:23 AM

Go to google translate and burn your blood by translating my post.

You are a pale, eyebrowless, chinky eyed pig from Philipines.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:31:48 AM

Quote from: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:27:51 AM
Get lost you useless stinky third world worm. Go back to your hutment and feed crumbs to your half dressed family. LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER.

TITO IS A LOSER LOSER LOSER.

TITO IS A LOSER.

TITO IS A LOSER.

Get lost Tito this is not your dads property.

SEE, YOU CAN REALLY SMELL WHAT KIND OF PERSON THIS THING IS ISN'T IT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

I WILL NOT TALK AND GO TO THIS LOW LEVEL THING ANYMORE, YOUR HONOUR CASE CLOSED ;D

tHIS ARE THE REAL LOSER. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:33:55 AM

I DECIDED THAT I WON'T TALK TO MONKEY ANYMORE, OHH ITS MY FAULT :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:35:56 AM

Quote from: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:30:23 AM
Go to google translate and burn your blood by translating my post.

You are a pale, eyebrowless, chinky eyed pig from Philipines.
[/quote

Seee you want to waste my time, You !@#$@#!$#@$@#$#@$@#$

whatever lady! :-* :-* :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:37:04 AM

Go learn proper english first, till that time spend your time counting your resistors and capacitors that you salvaged last night from the community junkyard. Who are you and what are you is already shown by your posts where you used swearwords.

Big loser.

You are so insecure that you can not stand someone else who is a newbie here and is not considering you a contributor to this thread.

Everyone here knows how insecure you are feeling by my presence here.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:38:02 AM

Quote from: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:27:51 AM
Get lost you useless stinky third world worm. Go back to your hutment and feed crumbs to your half dressed family. LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER.

TITO IS A LOSER LOSER LOSER.

TITO IS A LOSER.

TITO IS A LOSER.

Get lost Tito this is not your dads property.

Ya this is not my dads property, cause i made it you !@#$!@#$@#4 >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:38:38 AM

GOOOLER!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:40:12 AM

Quote from: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:37:04 AM
Go learn proper english first, till that time spend your time counting your resistors and capacitors that you salvaged last night from the community junkyard. Who are you and what are you is already shown by your posts where you used swearwords.

Big loser.

You are so insecure that you can not stand someone else who is a newbie here and is not considering you a contributor to this thread.

Everyone here knows how insecure you are feeling by my presence here.

No!!! you get english gorillia so that you can understand. >:(

What did you contribute? ??? ??? hahahahhahahahahhahha lol

your presence is nonsense ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 06, 2014, 12:41:06 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:24:51 AM

NO!!!!!! IT IS YOU WHO GET LOST HERE !!!!!!!! YOU STOP YOUR PING PING DENG yOU DONG DONG PING! >:(

I was never really good at Ping Pong. ;D Played tennis for a while.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 06, 2014, 12:43:36 AM

Quote from: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:37:04 AM
Go learn proper english first, till that time spend your time counting your resistors and capacitors that you salvaged last night from the community junkyard. Who are you and what are you is already shown by your posts where you used swearwords.

Big loser.

You are so insecure that you can not stand someone else who is a newbie here and is not considering you a contributor to this thread.

Everyone here knows how insecure you are feeling by my presence here.

Hey Googs

Actually, this is Titos thread. He has as much rights to it as anybody, if not more. ;) Be cool. 8)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:44:09 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on March 06, 2014, 12:41:06 AM
I was never really good at Ping Pong. ;D Played tennis for a while.

Mags

I believe you got it buddy. don't teach this GOOGLE DOODLE KID OK?. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:49:31 AM

I never knew how people like Tito are tolerated on public forums like this.

I joined here to learn something new and lo, this guy comes,out of his sleep and asks me to go.

Huh ! Philipino monkey, please try your full force to make me go. Lets see who goes. I am here to stay and learn from good people here.

Just get lost and go drive your Jeepny to earn your daily bread and to pay for your internet connection.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:50:17 AM

ANYMORE GOOGLE DOODLE GOK? :P

WHAT A NAME. HAHAHHAAHHAHA LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 06, 2014, 12:52:10 AM

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg349944/#msg349944 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg349944/#msg349944) 8)
In the meantime the free energy is available, play with the original @oracion circuit:Boyyz boyz boyz
Im also a slum dunk millionaire 8)
lets play ball whos last touch will show hand
Attached is amodified Titos circuit now show yours
See if it works or not
Move on MMMMMMoooove it Mooove it as they say in the army
My world gets going smaller everyday Anne Murray

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:52:30 AM

I aint gonna waste my time reading your useless and insecure comments. You are in my iggy bin from now on. I aint talkin to ye anymore.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:54:02 AM

Quote from: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:49:31 AM
I never knew how people like Tito are tolerated on public forums like this.

I joined here to learn something new and lo, this guy comes,out of his sleep and asks me to go.

Huh ! Philipino monkey, please try your full force to make me go. Lets see who goes. I am here to stay and learn from good people here.

Just get lost and go drive your Jeepny to earn your daily bread and to pay for your internet connection.

nO! ITS YOU WHO STARTED ATTACKING ME, I'M NOT LIKE YOU.

wHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS WHAT YOU SHOULD APPLY TO YOU. YOU DOODLE GOK.

NO! I AM ALREADY SLEEPING, YOU JUST WAKE ME UP, YOU DOODLE GOK >:(

nO YOU REALLY GET LOST, ITS OKAY NO HEART FEELINGS. :( :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:56:16 AM

Quote from: Google on March 06, 2014, 12:52:30 AM
I aint gonna waste my time reading your useless and insecure comments. You are in my iggy bin from now on. I aint talkin to ye anymore.

YA, that's good get lost, and go away forever, go make your thread, i will not post there, cause we will not learn anything there. :D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 12:58:27 AM

Quote from: totoalas on March 06, 2014, 12:52:10 AM
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg349944/#msg349944 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg349944/#msg349944) 8)
In the meantime the free energy is available, play with the original @oracion circuit:Boyyz boyz boyz
Im also a slum dunk millionaire 8)
lets play ball whos last touch will show hand
Attached is amodified Titos circuit now show yours
See if it works or not
Move on MMMMMMoooove it Mooove it as they say in the army
My world gets going smaller everyday Anne Murray

Do not show it here cause google time is wasted.

believe me he is rushing to replicate that thing. Lol hahahhahhahahha ;D [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 06, 2014, 01:01:43 AM

Dong bisaya ka man gid 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 06, 2014, 01:07:18 AM

Though you attack me first, LETS BE FRIEND NOW OK. :-*

gOODBYE :-*

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 06, 2014, 01:31:04 AM

I didnt attack you, I am not rushing to make something that lights a few LEDs. ;)

If you wannabe be my friend, you are most welcome.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 06, 2014, 03:09:48 AM

I dont see any big point in modifying circuits given here http://www.free-energy-info.com/Chapt5.html and calling them your own creation. There is a word in English for this kind of action. Ever heard the word PLAGIARISM ?

Its free info already on the net. Comeon guys what say ? Use your brains a bit more. :P

No hard feelings. ;D ;D ;D

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 06, 2014, 05:04:06 AM

There's no free lunch here
But we i mean all spent our time to make something applicable to our daily life
I am no brainer but achieved something without thinking anymore thru the OU members
Just contribute like you just did link link link
My leds had save lives by eliminating candles which kill and burn houses
Just sharing as you wish and like
In the meantime
Still collecting info on the not so free energy

Peace and let's beat the energy crunch 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 06, 2014, 06:09:53 AM

FREE ENERGY = FREE LUNCH, DINNER, BREAKFAST, SUPPER, SNACKS, DRINKS ETC. ALL ON ME. :) ;D :D 8) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 06, 2014, 06:17:23 AM

Google

Leave that...the best free energy is what you can make by your own Fun
Try Akula 30W circuit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 06, 2014, 07:15:53 AM

Quote from: forest on March 06, 2014, 06:17:23 AM
Google

Leave that...the best free energy is what you can make by your own Fun
Try Akula 30W circuit

Thanks forest. I think thats the way to go from now on.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 06, 2014, 08:17:13 AM

Quote from: forest on March 06, 2014, 06:17:23 AM
Google

Leave that...the best free energy is what you can make by your own Fun
Try Akula 30W circuit

thanks Forest
a lot more excited with the 30 W Akula
btw which circuit did u settled
akula xname 41 and or ilyoship before i start buying the parts 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 06, 2014, 08:47:51 AM

Quote from: totoalas on March 06, 2014, 08:17:13 AM
thanks Forest
a lot more excited with the 30 W Akula
btw which circuit did u settled
akula xname 41 and or ilyoship before i start buying the parts 8)

@forest and toto, why not all work on the same circuit and perfect it first. Guys tell me also which one is easier to make as I am basically a Chemistry person. Any help shall be grately appreciated.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 06, 2014, 09:42:24 AM

Quote from: Google on March 06, 2014, 08:47:51 AM
@forest and toto, why not all work on the same circuit and perfect it first. Guys tell me also which one is easier to make as I am basically a Chemistry person. Any help shall be grately appreciated.

Best,

Hi google
we are on the same boat, I cannot even solder a pwm just using breadboard first then transfer to a board with many holes and spaghetti wires lol
why not make this a team project for this thread .....
Smartscarecrow is gone Zhazzizz has his own radio program in AU
but basically I cannot tell everybody to join in maybe a TECH guru like forest
can initiate just what we did in IAEC forum where we had the Pulse motor build up
With or without prize I think its time something good will come out of this OVERUNITY FORUM TILL NOW
A 30 W Akula will be a good start......
8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on March 06, 2014, 10:09:52 AM

Hi guys,

Isn't there an akula thread? Why not create a new thread on this?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on March 06, 2014, 12:19:48 PM

Question to Tito:

Does your device stop working in a heavy thunderstorm, when humidity is high??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on March 06, 2014, 12:31:47 PM

Dear crazycut06.

The deed is done !! Now let's get experimenting !! :)

http://www.overunity.com/14378/akula0083-30-watt-self-running-generator/new/#new

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 06, 2014, 09:47:20 PM

Thanks Grumage,

I saw the thread and am enthused to see the responses.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 07, 2014, 08:03:49 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on March 06, 2014, 12:19:48 PM
Question to Tito:

Does your device stop working in a heavy thunderstorm, when humidity is high??

not really because it has a backup wire. ;) 8)

Well, the antenna version is affected a little when there is a big lightning and big thunder and again
a backup wire will solve that simple problem.

The antenna is just used for first or for just starting, its like starting from really zero point energy input. :)

in my conclusion, still battery starter is the best. it doesn't affect by anything. :)

GOD BLESS ;)

TAKE CARE. :)
:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on March 07, 2014, 08:56:03 AM

Quote from: Grumage on March 06, 2014, 12:31:47 PM
Dear crazycut06.

The deed is done !! Now let's get experimenting !! :)

http://www.overunity.com/14378/akula0083-30-watt-self-running-generator/new/#new (http://www.overunity.com/14378/akula0083-30-watt-self-running-generator/new/#new)

Cheers Grum.

Thanks Grum!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on March 07, 2014, 10:39:23 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 07, 2014, 08:03:49 AM

in my conclusion, still battery starter is the best. it doesn't affect by anything. :)

hi Tito L. Oracion

exactly how many transistor do you use ?.
and battery starter, do you mean rechargeable battery ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 07, 2014, 11:38:45 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 07, 2014, 08:03:49 AM

not really because it has a backup wire. ;) 8) Bahamas kasi hehehe

Well, the antenna version is affected a little when there is a big lightning and big thunder and again
a backup wire will solve that simple problem. Jumper bad yarn

The antenna is just used for first or for just starting, its like starting from really zero point energy input. :)

in my conclusion, still battery starter is the best. it doesn't affect by anything. :)

Just like my indoor Solar:less cap charger 070314 .yt
with or without solar panel it continue to charge the cap :P

GOD BLESS ;) Amen

TAKE CARE. :) Mercury drug
:) welcome back tagal bakasyon mo 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 08, 2014, 06:29:41 PM

Pare panu ba yon, Turo mo sakin yon please yung solar less,

diko kc alam ang pagka dawit ni Vhong navarro sa PDAP BADAP e. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 08, 2014, 06:33:04 PM

Quote from: Marsing on March 07, 2014, 10:39:23 AM
hi Tito L. Oracion

exactly how many transistor do you use ?.
and battery starter, do you mean rechargeable battery ?

I don't use transistor in tesla technology.

But in teetsla technology yes, it depends on how much power you want to provide. :)

Battery is not a big deal if its rechargeable or not. :)

:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 08, 2014, 08:08:58 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 08, 2014, 06:29:41 PM

Pare panu ba yon, Turo mo sakin yon please yung solar less,

diko kc alam ang pagka dawit ni Vhong navarro sa PDAP BADAP e. ;D

Big sabihin gabi na 8)ikaw naman
Using induction and earth i cN CHARGE a cap to 320vdc in 3 hours
No more solar panel kuha mo no more no less
April 11 to 26 nasa Cavite ako
Kits o eyeball tau 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on March 08, 2014, 11:50:10 PM

I think Tito's device works this way, you charge and discharge a condenser in other to charge and discharge another condenser.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 09, 2014, 04:58:48 AM

http://m.instructables.com/id/Modern-Radiant-Energy-Simple-Circuit-And-Setup/?ALLSTEPS

Here is the secret that everyone was clamouring to know. Just increase the scale and you have lots of free energy, speacially during bad weather.

http://m.instructables.com/id/My-Teslas-radiant-energy-collector-open-project/

Please also watch the latest video of MrTeslonian on using tesla coil to recieve radiant energy.

:D ;D 8)

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 09, 2014, 05:06:23 AM

Improved version = More free energy.

http://m.instructables.com/id/Tesla-radiant-enrgy-upgraded/?ALLSTEPS

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 09, 2014, 05:22:36 AM

Quote from: Leely on March 08, 2014, 11:50:10 PM
I think Tito's device works this way, you charge and discharge a condenser in other to charge and discharge another condenser.

Dear Leely, Can you post a simple circuit diagram of what you just said.

Many thanks in advance.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on March 09, 2014, 06:30:10 AM

Quote from: Google on March 09, 2014, 05:22:36 AM
Dear Leely, Can you post a simple circuit diagram of what you just said.

Many thanks in advance.

Best,

there are many kinds of free energy, I'm just telling u a version

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 09, 2014, 07:20:13 AM

Dr nakamtasu of Japan with his cosmic radiant energy generator

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on March 09, 2014, 12:36:21 PM

The diodes relieve reactive power in the primary circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 10, 2014, 12:34:13 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on March 09, 2014, 12:36:21 PM
The diodes relieve reactive power in the primary circuit.

Thanks a lot Dave 45.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 12, 2014, 07:11:50 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD9AovHxJss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD9AovHxJss) 8)
1 wire charger alternative to solar panel 120314 yt

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 12, 2014, 02:29:55 PM

Dear Totoalas, I saw your video, can you please share the concept and circuit of one wire charging by induction, I want to replicate it.

Many thanks,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 12, 2014, 04:45:49 PM

Quote from: Google on March 12, 2014, 02:29:55 PM
Dear Totoalas, I saw your video, can you please share the concept and circuit of one wire charging by induction, I want to replicate it.

Many thanks,

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg370891/#msg370891 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg370891/#msg370891)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 14, 2014, 02:42:14 AM

Quote from: Leely on March 08, 2014, 11:50:10 PM
I think Tito's device works this way, you charge and discharge a condenser in other to charge and discharge another condenser.

:o
:o
:o

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 14, 2014, 03:11:51 AM

@leely, please read this and stop wasting time. ;D ;D ;D
http://psychcentral.com/disorders/adhd/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 14, 2014, 04:11:38 AM

Quote from: Google on March 14, 2014, 03:11:51 AM
@leely, please read this and stop wasting time. ;D ;D ;D
http://psychcentral.com/disorders/adhd/ (http://psychcentral.com/disorders/adhd/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcfD6V7pQqc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcfD6V7pQqc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4A6VJodow&list=UUjqKLeadAXoXEUEf3VK6Dww (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4A6VJodow&list=UUjqKLeadAXoXEUEf3VK6Dww)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgKpQjyBRdk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgKpQjyBRdk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS2BdyCvWzE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS2BdyCvWzE) ;D ;D ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koyxrYSNbcE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koyxrYSNbcE)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2__ODU_QA0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2__ODU_QA0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm91hh9SqXs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm91hh9SqXs)

;D
;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 14, 2014, 04:56:38 AM

Yeeaahaa MonkeyTito :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 14, 2014, 07:06:32 PM

Quote from: forest on March 14, 2014, 04:56:38 AM
Yeeaahaa MonkeyTito :o

wa,wa,wa, why? :( >:( >:( >:(

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 14, 2014, 07:09:51 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 14, 2014, 07:06:32 PM

wa,wa,wa, why? :( >:( >:( >:(

;D

from videos you posted I concluded we need : rubber band, magnets, wheel,monkey and electric man ;D ;D ;D ;D
or.... :o :o :o maybe something else ?

still cannot find the proper usage for rubber band ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 14, 2014, 07:31:40 PM

Quote from: forest on March 14, 2014, 07:09:51 PM

from videos you posted I concluded we need : rubber band, magnets, wheel,monkey and electric man ;D ;D ;D ;D
or.... :o :o :o maybe something else ?

still cannot find the proper usage for rubber band ???

sorry buddy :( , i just post those vid, because google is insulting me again ok. >:(

but if you can do that why not :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Monkey style energy in the forest. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on March 14, 2014, 10:30:54 PM

Tito: Is this device similar to yours?
Is the coil similar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIf9SZS0HF0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIf9SZS0HF0)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 15, 2014, 04:57:07 AM

http://www.overunity.com/14378/akula0083-30-watt-self-running-generator/msg392773/#msg392773

;D
;D ;D
;D ;D ;D
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;D
;D ;D
;D ;D ;D
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;D
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;D
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;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on March 15, 2014, 12:28:37 PM

Now, this thread is not heading the wrong direction. Tito, u will not blame Google for what he's posting because ur tips are for people who want to experiment, even if what they do does not bring results.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 15, 2014, 12:38:40 PM

Quote from: Leely on March 15, 2014, 12:28:37 PM
Now, this thread is not heading the wrong direction. Tito, u will not blame Google for what he's posting because ur tips are for people who want to experiment, even if what they do does not bring results.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 15, 2014, 12:48:58 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec9G39_1uHo&list=UU_zn0cdzv_qfsxQUm4e7R9w :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 15, 2014, 12:58:31 PM

Хороший дискотека загрузки видео Русланом, в другом видео его конденсатор курил, как ваши резисторов курили в Акула 30 ватт свободной энергии устройства. Он он он он.

;D
;D
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 15, 2014, 01:18:32 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6PBVg5tDZc

wot takaja sztuka

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 15, 2014, 01:24:15 PM

Quote from: forest on March 15, 2014, 01:18:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6PBVg5tDZc

wot takaja sztuka

Yes I was refering to the same one. Lol, dark grey smoke billowing out of the capacitor. I had it just yesterday. Smells awful. Yuck.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 15, 2014, 01:30:53 PM

The best free energy device :D :D ;D ;D ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b7mjukhTyQ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on March 15, 2014, 01:36:08 PM

I've known that some people check this thread to look for a finished version of Tito's device, quite funny. Google, I don't mean you actually. At audience. If u want Tito's device, then put his tips together, then maybe you may make his device.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 15, 2014, 01:44:42 PM

Quote from: Leely on March 15, 2014, 01:36:08 PM
I've known that some people check this thread to look for a finished version of Tito's device, quite funny. Google, I don't mean you actually. At audience. If u want Tito's device, then put his tips together, then maybe you may make his device.

Hey how do you know he has one ? Is there any video or some legit verification by any senior member like Dr Tinsel Koala etc. I like the KISS.(Keep it simple sweety). ;)

I told you about some serious Attention Deficit Disorder. You forgot. He has nothing, just hot air. Have you heard of a dangling carrot in front of a donkey and the donkey keeps moving to grab it and the carrot dangler keeps on taking sadistic pleasure by moving the donkey(s) for long periods of time. ;D ;D

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 15, 2014, 07:36:38 PM

Why?! >:( , did i force everyone to believe me? huh!!!.
or, is it a feeling that, what i say is more near to truth. :)

i think you should do something from your attitude and manners. good guy :)
You made me to act like this so be it. :o :P
is that hurt? or do you have your heart? ??? :-\

Don't you have your own disposition?! >:( huh!!!
are you prisoned from what i say? :o

What i just do is i just give tips and some efficiencies that i discovered and share it to everybody. is that wrong? >:(

NOW! >:( >:( >:( >:(
Why are you insulting me?! >:(

is that your best move for your frustrations? >:( >:( >:(

So what do you want me to do, give all every detail?.
What do you think of me, are you out of your mind!!! >:(

You know what? many of you are unthankful. and inspite of tips i gave is, insult is what i received. lol ;D

@google gorillia ;D ;D ;D
your cute in your picture

@aking
i don't know their scheme it looks complicated.
free energy not always be like that.

okay, agin agin agin. WHAT IS THE SENSE OF BEING HERE ALWAYS IF YOU ARE JUST WASTING YOUR TIME ;D .

Are you nuts: courtesy of brother mags
no! i'm donut ;D : courtesy of otits ;D ;D ;D

your brother Donut :-* ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 15, 2014, 09:32:03 PM

atty otits natmaku
bawal ang higel
ang puso mo baa kunin k n ni Lord pag ganyan ng ganyan

hayaan mo sila inggit lang yan
mag mcdo k n lang
simba simba pg my time 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 15, 2014, 09:52:08 PM

Otits ;D ;D

Doodle loves when you react with confused anger. >:( >:( ;D ;D

You have a nice way of learning things from clueless discussions by throwing OTITS TIPS. ;D ;D

Everyone loves you for what you are otitso alset.

It was a joke.
Funny joke ;D
Elgoog eldood. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 16, 2014, 04:47:12 AM

Tito

Do not be offended, there are still people who believe in you and your tips. Me for example...If I only have a bit help here in my community..but free energy is not popular among ordinary village people - actually I'm treated like you or worse ;D ;D Nut or donut :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 16, 2014, 05:02:49 AM

Hey

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on March 16, 2014, 09:36:34 AM

Quote from: forest on March 16, 2014, 04:47:12 AM
Tito

Do not be offended, there are still people who believe in you and your tips. Me for example...If I only have a bit help here in my community..but free energy is not popular among ordinary village people - actually I'm treated like you or worse ;D ;D Nut or donut :D

Forest I'm sure u built one simple Tesl device for your village people so that they will pay you. And I'm sure you hid the Tesla switch and the earthing so that they will not learn how to do it, because you know that Tesla's work is made of wire and wire only.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 16, 2014, 09:54:26 AM

Quote from: Leely on March 16, 2014, 09:36:34 AM
Forest I'm sure u built one simple Tesl device for your village people so that they will pay you. And I'm sure you hid the Tesla switch and the earthing so that they will not learn how to do it, because you know that Tesla's work is made of wire and wire only.

This thread is just a pile of $h!t. If he has something, he must have made millions from it by now. He wont be lurking here getting insulted by newbies. Let him post a pic of his latest S Class. Maybe a battered Jeepny carrying laundry bags and ice cubes. Lol. I dont see any seniors posting here since long.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 16, 2014, 10:03:33 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 16, 2014, 04:14:54 PM

Google

Not sure about if he can do anything more about it...I know some persons who dislike this information to leak to public and especially to do anything good with it. Slave cannot be as rich as a master....Think about it.... Maybe Tito did the best he could ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 16, 2014, 11:01:15 PM

Forest,

I am in touch with a russian through my friends wife, who is a russian, he is finishing his 350 watt free energy device based on Kapagen, surprisingly he is not on any forums, russian or otherwise.
He is my friends wifes distant cousin. In case I get some details I will share on this forum.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on March 18, 2014, 07:27:18 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBxUsfHHKrM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBxUsfHHKrM)

Tito: As the world is on the brink of World war 3 are you going to help us or continue mocking us.

Soon no-one will be able to enjoy free energy.

You should think about that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 18, 2014, 10:10:01 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on March 18, 2014, 07:27:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBxUsfHHKrM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBxUsfHHKrM)
Tito: As the world is on the brink of World war 3 are you going to help us or continue mocking us.
Soon no-one will be able to enjoy free energy.
You should think about that.

Tito gave all the info in a variety of different ways. And believe me - even if Tito were to release his versions (there are different ways to apply the principles he has elaborated), - do you really think it would for one moment deter world powers from an impending war? Wars don't happen spontaneously. They always take years of planning, and are conveniently set in motion by deliberately planned incidents that purposefully fan cultivated flames of longstanding resentment and purposefully agitated outrage. You really think one guy's invention is going to change these global power players' minds? If you want the answers, go back to Tito's principles, with which you were so enamored when you first came actively into this thread. The answers are all there. But as far as WWIII - this is a matter of global conflict between good and evil, which has its own solutions. Tito's invention itself isn't going to change hearts the way that is required to end this conflict. A change of heart among nations requires much more (look up "metanoia").

Teets - I say this with great respect for your work and vision, Bro.
Ninong Bob :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 19, 2014, 06:13:34 AM

;D ;D ;D

@ aking.21 and bob and others,

World War 3 ? ;D ;D Are you guys fully on marijuana ? This bu99er will take you all in rounds and rounds for another 5 years. He is no inventor, just a joker from some village in Phillipines.

Are you guys serious ?? ;D ;D

You know what ? He has been rewording the information already posted on this forum and pasting it back on this thread after every 3 or 4 pages of you guys frustrated trials and wild guesses.

Not even a single video or photo of a device in 5 years ?

If you guys decide to lurk around he will take you in circles and more circles for another 5 years.

Ok, lemme tell you one thing for sure. Its gyulason, who knows very well, what this bu99er has been talking about all along, the past 5 long years.

This guy is nuts and needs to see a shrink ASAP.

Possibly gyulason can help you out, if he wants.

Thats all I have to say at the moment.

All the best.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: energia9 on March 19, 2014, 06:37:36 AM

Quote from: Google on March 19, 2014, 06:13:34 AM
;D ;D ;D

@ aking.21 and bob and others,

World War 3 ? ;D ;D Are you guys fully on marijuana ? This bu99er will take you all in rounds and rounds for another 5 years. He is no inventor, just a joker from some village in Phillipines.

Are you guys serious ?? ;D ;D

You know what ? He has been rewording the information already posted on this forum and pasting it back on this thread after every 3 or 4 pages of you guys frustrated trials and wild guesses.

Not even a single video or photo of a device in 5 years ?

If you guys decide to lurk around he will take you in circles and more circles for another 5 years.

Ok, lemme tell you one thing for sure. Its gyulason, who knows very well, what this bu99er has been talking about all along, the past 5 long years.

This guy is nuts and needs to see a shrink ASAP.

Possibly gyulason can help you out, if he wants.

Thats all I have to say at the moment.

All the best.

im sorry but i 100% agree with you

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 19, 2014, 11:14:46 AM

Energia9,

Otto took his secrets on his chest to his coffin. Similar fate he will meet in some future typhoon. The wheelwork of nature is like that only.

R.I.P. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 19, 2014, 11:17:09 AM

(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2F6763%2Fenergy-amplification%2Fdlattach%2Fattach%2F135078%2Fimage%2F%2F&hash=9067de28616188c9ea0f02c226f902afc45bc1c0)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 19, 2014, 07:26:42 PM

:( its sow sad for me to see all of this negative comment with our fellow brothers. :)

But i just want you to know that all tips i gave is truth and i just shared that for the benefit of all without any back emf for me :D , got that? :( :( :(

Now if you are angry with me specially this ugly google doodle gok. what will you do you unthankful @!#$@#$#$##$!!!!. >:(

Do you think you can know good things from God if your attitude is like that?!!!. lol are you nuts, peanut, donut! >:(

@ aking
i think i am not the one mocking anyone here, it is i who is being mock. :)

The source is the most important why don't you make focus on the source, what can you do?, what will you do?. is it too difficult to think for that?. weird.

:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 19, 2014, 09:07:01 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 19, 2014, 07:26:42 PM
:( its sow sad for me to see all of this negative comment with our fellow brothers. :)

But i just want you to know that all tips i gave is truth and i just shared that for the benefit of all without any back emf for me :D , got that? :( :( :(

Now if you are angry with me specially this ugly google doodle gok. what will you do you unthankful @!#$@#$#$##$!!!!. >:(

Do you think you can know good things from God if your attitude is like that?!!!. lol are you nuts, peanut, donut! >:(

@ aking
i think i am not the one mocking anyone here, it is i who is being mock. :)

The source is the most important why don't you make focus on the source, what can you do?, what will you do?. is it too difficult to think for that?. weird.

:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 19, 2014, 11:11:15 PM

Quote from: romerouk on September 16, 2011, 12:39:49 PM
@Tito L. Oracion
You are getting the same s--- I've got from few members on the forums.
No matter what you do, you won't make all people happy.
Take a break and relax, I am on your side and many others here are.

Best regards,
Romero

Birds of a feather flock together. Wondering where is Mylow ? ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 20, 2014, 02:36:43 AM

stop nutational nuts from taking donuts >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 20, 2014, 03:39:09 AM

@ forest,

Congrats on eating so many tidonuts in past 5 years. So how many FE devices you patented so far by eating tidonts ?

Carry on eating tidonuts. Grapes are sour. Isnt it ?

Have fun.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 20, 2014, 08:17:41 AM

Quote from: broli on February 12, 2012, 05:35:19 AM
"I can't share anything with you but here has some very vague tips and hints that can help you get absolutely nowhere. I really hope you come back to ask me more as its good for my ego and self awareness, the doctor told me attention is the only cure for my disease. Because in reality I have nothing but really enjoy the 15min of fame."

Tito L. Oracion and cosmoLV, very similar posting style, very similar ideologies and very similar behavior. I guess that's the price you pay if you give Internet access to the psychiatric ward.

Ha ha ha ha .... ;D ;D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 20, 2014, 08:22:42 AM

Quote from: hartiberlin on February 13, 2012, 01:26:39 PM
Some members have complained about you Tito.
If you make fun of this and post these useless posts, I will moderate you until you are going to
get a grip again.

This is the last warning.

Regards, Stefan.

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 22, 2014, 08:43:46 AM

Another thing more one, it is not an incident by accident that my wife is pregnant and going to give
birth this Feb 14, 2013 and if someone or everyone want to give some financial
assistance, i think its not bad at all, and its a big blessing to me i guess. :)
I think if i had the money i need, maybe i can share another good toy of mine or maybe i'll give the real thing or the dream of everyone, who knows.

Tito L Oracion ;D
[/quote]
*****************************************************
★ Why did you f¥€k, if you cant afford a delivery ? I know hogs do it.
★ Shameless lamer, you got down to beg for money from forum members in exchange for a circuit that you dont have.
★ By now you will b ready for 6th delivery and more snake oil bottles to sell to OU community.
Its good you are not seen around anymore.
★

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 22, 2014, 09:23:44 AM

Quote from: Google on March 22, 2014, 08:43:46 AM
Another thing more one, it is not an incident by accident that my wife is pregnant and going to give
birth this Feb 14, 2013 and if someone or everyone want to give some financial
assistance, i think its not bad at all, and its a big blessing to me i guess. :)
I think if i had the money i need, maybe i can share another good toy of mine or maybe i'll give the real thing or the dream of everyone, who knows.

Tito L Oracion ;D

*****************************************************
★ Why did you f¥€k, if you cant afford a delivery ? I know hogs do it.
★ Shameless lamer, you got down to beg for money from forum members in exchange for a circuit that you dont have.
★ By now you will b ready for 6th delivery and more snake oil bottles to sell to OU community.
Its good you are not seen around anymore.
★

This is a vicious and degrading personal attack. If you can't find a more civil way of expressing your opinions, you should find another place to lurk and spew your vitriol. Is there anyone else out there who feels the same way?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 22, 2014, 09:41:49 AM

Bob,

I said what I felt and I take full responsibility of my comment, civil or uncivil. At the most I will get a warning or account banned. I dont care. Such scamsters need their ass kicked.

Wasnt it shameful to beg money for delivery in return of the circuit.

He was trying to scam forum users by dangling the carrot of his non existing circuit. Its like Nigerian black dollar or internet lottery scam that he was going towards.

I womder why no one noticed when he started asking money on the internet forum. Doesnt he have relatives or friends for some petty hand loans.

Actually the mod should have noticed this and should have banned him much earlier.

I just dont care.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 22, 2014, 09:45:23 AM

And.... its my wish to lurk wherever I want. No one can cut my freedom. I am not trying to scam anyone. Just imagine how much time money brain and hopes people wasted chasing this clown.

Hope there are people here who feel from inside, whatever I just said.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 22, 2014, 09:50:27 AM

Bob
Yes it is ugly,conversely so is Tito's "secret"! when you play ugly sometimes you get it back.[most times actually]

Personally I know that the God whom Tito worships never stops or gives up
on a person and I know his biggest "demand" is that we Love each other.

You will know them by their works...

thx
Chet

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 22, 2014, 09:54:09 AM

Ok enough of the girls talk
We are not after the number of post but of substance and contribution
Being a member be it elite or newbie let's respect and contribute in positive way
If you feel there is somethin wrong then you can prove by replication
Same as 30w akula ckt most of forum members are replicating
With or without success
It took 20 pages for the rant
:o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 22, 2014, 09:58:41 AM

Actually what flamed me was the fact that someone tries to scam (seek money) on the internet. We dont know him whether he is from Nigeria or Philipines.

Very bad. In the name of Christianity seeking money in return of a circuit is very bad for the reputation of this forum.

Mods are you listening to me ?

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 22, 2014, 10:24:55 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 04, 2013, 09:11:09 PM

No!, The issue here is just simple buddy.

I just lighted the right path, right direction that i should tell a very long time ago. :) but you don't want to believe.

i realize that, you become angry when i said your conclusion is wrong with this face >:( cause i just showed you the right direction.

and i praise someone, it seems that there is a little jealous, ego and pride attacking in that moment, sorry but that is what i felt from you bud,
but i really don't have any intention of something wrong but really to filter the information i gave and really show the right path.

cause if you just realize moray, tesla uses only an antenna to have free energy. and SM uses only antena and battery version which is both possible.

And i understand you about that behaviour for what i've done for three years, i'am not really going to say the secret in detail but at least i showed the path :) and sir Wattsup is really correct for that. :(

I have nothing against you buddy and i don't really want to quarrel with you.
maybe its a misunderstanding or what, i don't know.

i'm not perfect okay, i'm not saying that i fully know the designs of every FE inventor ok, but i know one thing, cause only one energy amplifier they are using. and i'm sure of that. promise. :)

now i don't know what to say anymore ;D

but i can release my hand ready for handshake from my sixorgan ;D and from the bottom of my foot, i mean heart, lets be friends again. :)

@stprue
don't worry buddy i'll do that, if not anymore necessary.
do not insult me and no more respond, but i'll watch :) :o 8)

@anyone
one reason why i change my mind abruptly because sometimes a friend becomes a mortal enemies at anytime :)

ok, i guess i hurt many heart, sorry i apologize :)

just continue to study and make really simple research maybe you'll get it. ;)

bye :)

Look at the audacity of this greedy shameless mustard. He is making you all sit on his @#$&@#. And you still defending him Bob ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 22, 2014, 10:32:52 AM

I am also from the PHILIPPINES
After a few posts I refined my attitude to have self respect
Hope you do the same
From guest member be Sr member be to hero member
Is it nice to have friends in the forum having same interest

If you gave your money in titos account it's your own freewill
We arealDYING IN A MOMENTUM till ATOMMIX and you Came along
Join us a constructive way and hopefully
Well not be needing titos in the future
But at the moment most members are hopping in from r
Time to time when there's some development
So just enjoy

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 22, 2014, 11:23:11 AM

Ok ok, Dance to the tunes..... ;D ;D

No point blaming Atommix or me for your non achievement of following a clown for 5 years. Accept it graciously, thats more like an honest man.

Introspection will make you realise, not anyone from outside.

Please carry on the banana republic dance. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 22, 2014, 12:05:03 PM

Quote from: Hel on May 04, 2013, 08:01:01 AM
Please forgive my intrusion, I recently started reading this entire thread from beginning...
and since every possible link has been posted, well take this one too, and have a careful read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythomania

I too, of course, have built a working FE device. I started powering my home with it since some weeks.
But I will NEVER explain you how it works, because I'm sadic and I enjoy like a crazy playing with you going
mad with my riddles ! (OK)

Really, forgive me very very much, I couldn't hold my mood back (OK).
Without any offense to anyone, huh :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on March 22, 2014, 12:09:53 PM

Quote from: Google on March 22, 2014, 09:41:49 AM
Bob,

I said what I felt and I take full responsibility of my comment, civil or uncivil. At the most I will get a warning or account banned. I dont care. Such scamsters need their ass kicked.

Wasnt it shameful to beg money for delivery in return of the circuit.

He was trying to scam forum users by dangling the carrot of his non existing circuit. Its like Nigerian black dollar or internet lottery scam that he was going towards...

Google I'm tired of this your Nigerian scam of a thing, is Tito not from Philippines, what has that got to do with Nigerian scam again? I myself may hate that name, but you call it here as if we do have time to fall for any Nigerian scam.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 22, 2014, 12:58:08 PM

Leely, everyone is tired. You have some new ideas on obtaining free energy from aether ?

My take : Tesla used 3rd coil perpendicular to the 2nd coil. In essence he used three coils :

Primary, Secondary and Tertiary.

Primary and secondary were in harmonic resonance.

While secondary and tirtiary were connected only galvanically. It was that 3rd coil that converted the energy into longitudinal waves. The speherical capacitor was connected to the tirtiaries end. One end of secondary was grounded while other was galvanically connected to the tirtiary coil.

This system has time reversal effect as the longtidinal waves travel in all directions and like shockwaves and do not diminish with distance. They are so strong that they create a strong ringback effect in the whole system and creates a loopback effect, without diminishing in energy.

Longitudinal waves also shink space time in the sense that they travel at speeds 2 x 22 ÷ 7 times the speed of light. They disturb aether, shake the aether so strong that while trying to get in its original shape aether releases its energy into system and that creates overunity effect, as our present Physics sees overunity. The extra energy is flowing in from aether.

This loopback effect results in the output energy being more than input energy.

The speherical cap is resonantly coupled with the tirtiary coil.

Normally all tesla coil builders end up at the secondary only with a toriod on top of it. That is just a waste of energy. Overunity cant be achieved by this system.

The primary and secondary should resonate at the lowest possible frequencies, not more than a couple of KCPS, otherwise it leads to energy losses in form of hertzian waves, and that has to be avoided to conserve the energy of the system.

The sphere cap attached to tirtiary coil must be properly insulted in a strong dielectric so that no energy is lost in streams of inoised air.

Something like the attached picture. A careful choice of wavelengths is made in this system.

I am yet to see a yt video of such a system. But I wish to build one with magnetically quenched spark gap with magnets as spark gaps and 2 more magnets perpendicular to the spark gap.

I dont want to use any electronics to drive the system. Just will go like the way Mr. Tesla did.

Its because of this overunity effect that Morgan choked the funding of Mr Teslas biggest project.

Lets share more facts, gather them on this wonderful forum and start testing it, instead of following Bedini, Bearden and Moray etc.

Lets follow the king of electricity instead of wasting time on chasing the foxes.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on March 22, 2014, 01:10:54 PM

You see, you're just like me. Let us follow the things that are working, not the ones that are not working, maybe, the simple ones such as the tesla coil and earth connection.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 22, 2014, 01:20:48 PM

Right agreed. :) And I would not like to cheat by drawing power via AMP circuits connected to phase or neutral lines. ;D ;D

I have set 50 watt hour as benchmark for myself. Not below this. Not useful below that.

Best,

Title: COP OF 2.36
Post by: Google on March 22, 2014, 01:41:59 PM

COP of 2.36 hmm, he is the unsuppressed :D ;D video link :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDNLfcIHYyQ

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on March 22, 2014, 02:00:15 PM

Quote from: Google on March 22, 2014, 09:41:49 AM
Bob,

I said what I felt and I take full responsibility of my comment, civil or uncivil. At the most I will get a warning or account banned. I dont care. Such scamsters need their ass kicked.

Wasnt it shameful to beg money for delivery in return of the circuit.

He was trying to scam forum users by dangling the carrot of his non existing circuit. Its like Nigerian black dollar or internet lottery scam that he was going towards.

I womder why no one noticed when he started asking money on the internet forum. Doesnt he have relatives or friends for some petty hand loans.

Actually the mod should have noticed this and should have banned him much earlier.

I just dont care.

I offered him a good business deal and he turned it down. But he told me enough for me to realize that he probably has the device. However I don't think he fully understands the operating principle.
He probably knows the "how" but not the underlining theory.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 22, 2014, 02:16:32 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on March 22, 2014, 02:00:15 PM

I offered him a good business deal and he turned it down.

●Ever pondered why he turned it down, because he doesnt have nothing. If I have something, I will negotiate and sell at the best price I am getting at current market rate, whatever it be, and be content with what I get to move forward, instead of just saying that I have something but I wont show you.

But he told me enough for me to realize that he probably has the device.

● After reading 100s of pdf files from Moray, Bedini, Bearden, SM and hovering on youtube and forums, even a 15 year old like me can also tell you enough info. to make you believe something that does not exist.

He has lot of hot air though which he keeps on passing in the forum.

However I don't think he fully understands the operating principle.

● Well either he is poorly educated, doesnt know abc of what he talks or does or just pretending to keep the forum going.

No principle, no schematic, no theory, no operting procedure, no video, no picture. A perfect self deluded perpetual bullshitter.
He probably knows the "how" but not the underlining theory.

● Well every inventor worth his salt knows how and why his baby works. I am not stopping anyone from idol worship. What are you guys gaining ? Nill, Nada, Zero. Instead just scratching your mature head, wondering why your antenna is non resonant with his crappy transmission.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 22, 2014, 02:34:21 PM

Stop that nonsense.It's not related to energy amplification. >:( It's Tito decision, nothing force him to explain anything to you. Be graceful, be gentle work hard and you will find what you want...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 22, 2014, 02:55:01 PM

sycophantˈsɪkəfant/nounnoun: sycophant; plural noun: sycophants1.a person who acts obsequiously towards someone he thinks is important in order to gain advantage.

Gang up, still no overunity in the Jungle. :D ;D :D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 23, 2014, 12:25:19 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on October 16, 2013, 01:24:09 PM
Lets take one coil and look at the reaction
Does this depiction explain femf and bemf

Hello Dave,

If you excuse me quoting your old post, its factually wrong. Bemf or Cemf is not a result of a collapsing B field, its rather a result of the B which is building up, when you close the switch. It is just an equal or opposite reaction to Femf
and tries to block Femf from building up B.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 23, 2014, 04:37:12 AM

Quote from: totoalas on October 27, 2013, 08:31:02 PM
try it with e core and a gap in between 2 primaries in the middle and pick up coils on both ends

cheers

totoalas

Catching Bemf is like saying catching fish by a fishline made of water. ;D

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 23, 2014, 07:38:24 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 26, 2013, 01:09:26 PM
I'm aware. I am going through his posts, from his humble beginnings to his present "gimee 10 million dollars" state.
I've had free energy for a while through the Benitez system so this stuff is completing my education. You won't catch me patronizing Tito.
Just go to the beginning and read his posts. If you've done, and do the experiments, you'll get there.
There's much to understand with Tesla and I am busy re-creating his patents where appropriate.
Benitez tells you how to step up your cap voltages.
A magnet is not necessary, but it amps up your power by simply using it as part of a lead.
I won't be teased by Tito or anyone else.

Hi,

Its good to note that atleast someone has tasted the free energy. A.king21, would you be willing to share your secret with us, a schematic may be.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 23, 2014, 09:25:40 AM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 08, 2013, 05:20:23 PM
Yes. Without reversing the current.
maybe not; a AA batter is current limited. The coil inductance would have to be very large, which, without very large conductors to reduce the resistance per length; which increases capacitance per length... and requires more current.

So No. there is a limit to the power of an AA battery...
maybe... given enough time; but with too much time, self inductance will cancel the current also...

Yes, if I can replace the battery with a super cap charged to 1.2V with the same (or less) Joules stored.... because the current isn't as limited.

Excessive current on the AA will create a notable Heat reaction, which will accelerate the current it can produce, which produces more heat, and that will be another limiting point.

Oh God, I am so patient reading it. Ever heard whats a transient ....... is ?
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on March 23, 2014, 10:07:01 AM

Quote from: Google on March 23, 2014, 07:38:24 AM
Hi,

Its good to note that atleast someone has tasted the free energy. A.king21, would you be willing to share your secret with us, a schematic may be.

Best,

I don't have the time right now, but if you're prepared to trawl through my posts, the Benitez links are all there including schematics.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 23, 2014, 10:19:03 AM

Thanks a.king21, Its fun learning the tesla tech and overunity science. I will go thru your thread soon.

Thanks again, :)

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 23, 2014, 10:30:59 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 12, 2013, 06:39:37 AM
lancaIV

Get a life

;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 23, 2014, 03:45:37 PM

For you, Teets:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o42DB5gLBk

The principles are all there in the thread for a working device.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 24, 2014, 12:21:37 AM

Quote from: Google on March 23, 2014, 10:30:59 AM
;D ;D

Sorry buddy were not the same level. ;D

That sounds OF a FRUSTRATED LOOOOOOOOOOZER :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P ;D

aND AND AND I WILL NOT WASTE MY TIME TALKING TO AN OLD WOMAN ANYMORE. :P :P :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: blaze_power on March 24, 2014, 05:23:16 AM

The truth people is that Free energy DOES exist and every person knows and feels this and this is what this guy is playing on and is exploiting you all. The REASON he refused your "good deal" is because he understands psychology and knows that he has greater power in keeping the hoax alive and enjoying his fame in the forum it is a power trip that's all thus if he "accepts" your deal it would expose him and he would lose his delusional power and fame. This guy in my opinion is an attention seeker and has a low self esteem and this is a boost to his ego and he wouldn't trade that in for anything. This is simple to understand it is like God and the Bible NO ONE in our generation has PHYSICALLY seen God but for those that believe WE KNOW he exists and it is a strong feeling a hope this is why these fake preachers can fleece hundreds of millions from so called "followers" in the name of God and this is what this guy is playing on. I have no shame in declaring that I BELIEVE IN GOD but I believe in THE REAL God and before I started out in business I "believed" that FREE energy was possible (CAPS is for EMPHASIS in case you are all wondering). My company Blaze Power achieved FREE ENERGY several years ago but this was through using a device that had ONE moving part ONLY this meant that over time the moving part would eventually wear out thus FREE energy would have an UNINTERRUPTED shelf life of about 50 years (Give or take then it would need a change of parts then onward another 50 Years it is 100% efficient in the meaning of the word because it is creating FREE energy WITHOUT consuming ANY) thus we decided to develop the next generation that we acronym the Mark II (Mark 2) and thus we do have a device that works on a similar principle only better and has NO MOVING parts meaning it could run "Indefinitely" forever. Our agenda is not profit or money but about global awareness on the dangers of Nuclear Power at the highest level see our public awareness site http://www.blaze-power.eu (If it is not being sabotaged by the CIA) or http://www.blaze-power.org (the backup domain and if you want to get some info about the WORKING FREE energy devices we have visit our R & D site http://www.blaze.technology and you should know that in a lot of forums there are rogue "disinformation" agents on CIA payrolls that are paid to post negative comments to discredit FREE energy for political and economic reasons and is actually "unofficial U.S government policy" think about it, what is the global energy market worth? This is why FREE energy is very unpopular and the U.S government has known for decades that FREE energy exists reason enough to drive them to steal over $2million from me in BROAD DAYLIGHT see the website ALL the evidence is there including media coverage. Blaze Power is the REAL DEAL forget this guy I can confirm NOW that FREE energy DOES EXIST we have it and it has existed for a while and we at Blaze Power just had the power and the balls to prove it! Google the term "economic hitman" and see why FREE energy is the CIA's BIGGEST nightmare. My regrets for the long post but I had much to say and all those that want to post negative comments in response to this by all means go ahead KNOCK YOURSELF out our skin is too thick now for you to even scratch the surface the CIA, DOJ (Department of Justice in the U.S) and every other agency knows this thus either accept the fact that FREE energy is here and we have it and we can prove it too and we have!

Good day to you all

Free Energy Lives

Blaze Power http://www.blaze-power.org

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: energia9 on March 24, 2014, 06:05:30 AM

Tito is playing on this forum with several names. people like these can copy attitudes so you may never know who wrote the post, you might think just a normal guy but in reality it was Tito.
This guy is playing on all levels. he is a disinfo agent by his own will. no he does not work for the gov.
These people play roles by their own will to distract with 100 pages of senseless nonsense.
all these guys are psychological phenomena, they have problems with controlling their emotions.
this guy never posted anything constructive, all they do is copy and paste info that is everywhere, none of their own work.
none of them even have an oscilloscope or other equipment.
none of them have anything to do with things that make sense.
all they do is blabber chicken shit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 24, 2014, 08:28:02 AM

at least Tito wanted 10 millions of dollars ONLY :P :P , but surprise surprise !!! look here http://www.blaze-power.org/#!get_involved/c1yzj

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 24, 2014, 08:56:34 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 24, 2014, 12:21:37 AM

Sorry buddy were not the same level. ;D

That sounds OF a FRUSTRATED LOOOOOOOOOOZER :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P ;D

aND AND AND I WILL NOT WASTE MY TIME TALKING TO AN OLD WOMAN ANYMORE. :P :P :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Tits my son,

I am just 15 years old but have completed my Post Grad. in Chemistry with honors in Physical Chemistry. I have been given multiple upgrades in one year during my Graduation course.

As per your posts you are a father of 4 , 5 or may be more kids and you must be 3 times my age.

But still I am your dad. See ¡¡¡¡

Actually you are a frustrated guy misleading eneryone here with your CUT & PASTE technology since past 5 looooooong years and have nothing to show to the world.

On top of that you ask money from forum members for your non existant circuits.

But you need to stop fooling people here, stop raising their hopes and stop wasting their time and money. Maybe you have something, which your deluded peanut brain thinks is overunity, sit on it and warm up your @$$. But for the sake of your Jesus, please stop blowing hot air from your bottom. You know you stink.

What were you before conversion ? And why you converted ? You are not even honest to your original religion, leave aside being honest to the people here. Huh !!!

Once again, go see a shrink for your Attention seeking disorder.

Kick, Kick Kick Kick, Kick Kick Kick Kick Kick Kick Kick Kick Kick (Tesla way... 3 Kicks, 6 Kicks, 9 Kicks)

Get lost you virago.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 24, 2014, 09:04:01 AM

Quote from: forest on March 24, 2014, 08:28:02 AM
at least Tito wanted 10 millions of dollars ONLY :P :P , but surprise surprise !!! look here http://www.blaze-power.org/#!get_involved/c1yzj

Oh wow ,

At least this blaze guy has a website and offering something to the world. What is your mentor offering ? Unlimited supply of stinky gas. He better use this gas rerouted from his ....hole with a check valve in between to power up a 4 stroke genset.

Thats will be the best free energy. You wanna follow suit ?

This is called sleeping with open eyes.

Best,

Title: The simplest free energy circuit for the dummies.
Post by: Google on March 24, 2014, 09:46:47 AM

This dipole never dies. ;D ;D ;D ;D .

FREE ENERGY FOR EVERYBODY. NO ANTENNA NEEDED, NO EARTH NEEDED. NO COILS OR CAPACITORS NEEDED.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UizYPS93zoM

Now amplify this to power up your heating systems.

Have fun,

Ps, This is simple and straight forward, you will just need 5 minutes to solder the components, not 5 loooooong years to decipher the puzzles. ;D

Title: Holy Grail is here, seriously.....
Post by: Google on March 24, 2014, 11:04:45 AM

Guys,

I think time has come when you stop getting frustrated about FREE ENERGY from TESLA PATENTS.

Do you know there has been someone on this forum, much b4 this guy came here ?

This guy has copied his work, but could not succeed in replicating it.

Unfortunately the original discoverer, I wont call him inventor, as its Teslas work, has already deleted his posts on the forum. But somehow this guy, well in time copied the original posts.

This guy got so frustrated that he started this new thread, with a hope that the original brainy guy will come and post in his thread and he will involve everyone here into doing experiments, based on whatever info. this plagiarist got from the REAL HERO. And the real hero was not late Otto.

I know exactly from where this guy has picked up some one elses work and all the files are now in my possession, word by word and picture by picture.

You will have to fully understand and combine 6 Tesla Patents and carefully read Colorado Spring Notes. It will take time and effort but you will figure it out.

Once you figure out, you will replicate it in 2 days flat.

You wont need any modern day electronics to make one unit.

I am yet to read these in depth and study all the files that I have stumbled upon, downloading the entire hard disc of the plagiarist, remotely. It took me some time but I figured out where exactly this guy is in Asia.

I am openly declaring this to everyone here. Normally I hate doing this kind of online sniffing, but in this case I didnt hasitate for obvious reasons.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 24, 2014, 11:24:55 AM

Ikaw ay karapatan, ikaw ay tumagal karaming oras upang maabot ang aking mga antas. Panatilihin sinusubukang ikaw ay magtagumpay. Itigil ang panunukso at puzzling mga tao dito. Ngayon nito iyong tira mama imbentor. >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 24, 2014, 11:33:22 AM

Ano sa tingin ninyo ng modernong araw kids? Kami ay marahil 10 beses na mas madunong kaysa sa iyo sa 50 marahil. Ikaw lumang tao mula sa Cabite. Alam mo tao talaga wala pag-aalaga na ngayon. Kunin ang iyong mga thread ngayon at kumilos. >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 24, 2014, 11:38:46 AM

Alam ba ninyo kung lumang pangit ang tao kung gaano kadali ito ay para sa akin upang mahanap ang iyong ip address mula sa iyong yahoo mail. Ako ay nagpadala ng isang mail, ikaw ay tumugon sa ito at ba kayong nakulong mama nikolai tesla >:( >:(

Iyon ay ilang oras oras oras ang nakalipas, Nais kong sa iyo upang tumugon at ng ginawa mo.
>:( ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 24, 2014, 11:47:29 AM

Ngayon

pumunta

jump

Sa

ylang

ylang

sa

iyong

imbensyon

;D

;D

;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on March 24, 2014, 11:50:30 AM

Hi Google,

What good you find in mocking him? And what if you know his address etc? Please think this all over okay?
Whatever device he has or he has not got, it does not entitle anybody to mock him.

Thanks for understanding (if you do)
Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 24, 2014, 11:54:03 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on March 24, 2014, 11:50:30 AM
Hi Google,

What good you find in mocking him? And what if you know his address etc? Please think this all over okay?
Whatever device he has or he has not got, it does not entitle anybody to mock him.

Thanks for understanding (if you do)
Gyula

Dear Gyula,

He has been making fun of people and mocking them for long. One gets back what one gives.

I do understand your point and wont mock him anymore.

Peace bro.

Ps. Now I need to leave and spend my holidays in studying all the material in the disc.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on March 24, 2014, 12:02:47 PM

Good, and believe me your time will be much better spent by figuring out his hints left in his earlier posts and then just try to build what you collected. And you can always ask questions on the forum on specific problems you do not seem to cope with, for he just did the same: asked 'nagging' questions and surely did hands-on tests, regardless of the outcome. (Even if you or anyone else thinks he has not got any useful setup.)

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 24, 2014, 01:47:28 PM

Quote from: Farmhand on February 10, 2014, 04:45:41 AM
You didn't say anything that made any sense for me to say if you are right or wrong. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

I asked you a simple question and you talk in tongues. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P But do not or cannot answer.

"You charge a capacitor to a very high voltage." I do that often, do you ? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ??? ??? ???

"Then amazing things will happen ?" Depends on what you mean by amazing. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

How about you show us something you have built ? Or are you all talk ? ;D :D ;D :) ;)

I'm not playing your games. If you cannot show us something that you have built then I say you are full of it, and simply playing games for attention. :) ;) :D ;) :) ;D :D ;)

You don't need any attention from me, plenty of others will give it to you for free. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :) ;) ;D ;D :D

:D ;D ;)

Free attention = free energy, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) :) :) :)

Cheers, Want more emoticons, here >:( ;) :) ;) ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :) :) :)

Have some more :) ;) :D ;D :D ;) :)

Hang on I forgot one :P

See anyone can post silly stuff, it's easy. How about answering the question.

Why should the circuit give up free energy ? Are you capable of giving a comprehensible answer ?

If you don't I will assume you are not.

Cheers

Lol, so many emoticons. They seem like sparks scattered after a charged cap is shorted with a low inductance, low resistance bifi pancake coil to generate a huuuuuge kick.
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 24, 2014, 03:53:59 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 02:30:06 AM

NO!!! :o

ok!, I will reveal this thing to everyone now, but i think this will be the last one ok? :)

ok here it is:
Electricity Simply, in terms of sign it has positive sign and negative sign right? :)
Electricity simply, is compose of electron and protons right?
in terms of behavior, according to franklin the electron is the one that runs. ??? ;D

GOD BLESS EVERYONE ;) :)
TAKE CARE!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :-*

OTITS L. NOICARO ;D

Ooooooo Electricity is made of electrons and protons ? I learned something today. God bless the overunity research.

http://electricalengineeringforbeginners.blogspot.com/

Someone needs to know the physics of electricity better. Right ??

Right !!!!

;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 24, 2014, 04:16:42 PM

ha ha ha ha ;D ;D ;D ;D
In Tito dictionary

Electricity is BAM! then BAM! then BAM BAM! then BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM !!!! and if can't stop BAM BAM then you got this :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on March 24, 2014, 05:13:58 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 02:30:06 AM

NO!!! :o

ok!, I will reveal this thing to everyone now, but i think this will be the last one ok? :) :(
This is actually one of the amazing thing that i discover and its very simple. :)

i think i will not anymore post here everyone. hope that you can finish it. i believe that there are many here already got it and they don't want to share it to me because they are angry to me. ;D but that's okay i understand that. cause that is their hard work discoveries. am i right everyone. ;D

ok here it is:
Electricity Simply, in terms of sign it has positive sign and negative sign right? :)
Electricity simply, is compose of electron and protons right?
in terms of behavior, according to franklin the electron is the one that runs. ??? ;D
And here is the important thing that everyone should realize and know:
in terms of effect: the electricity has the capability of pushing and an effect of sucking.
AT THE SAME REAL TIME ACTION ;)

One time in my room with two door i experience and saw a double action when i open the door i am holding and i saw an effect in the other door that is nearly close. there i see an action to the other door when i open and close the one door. hope you understand it. you just try it in your two door room and see what i mean a say about. ;D
note: windows must be close and there should be no other airway other than the doors ok?. ;)

VERY SIMPLE THINGS AND AN OPEN THINGS ABOUT ELECTRICITY THAT MANY IS NOT REALIZING THE IMPORTANT USE OF IT.
REALLY JUST A COMMON SENSE TO DO SOME ARRANGEMENT TO ACCOMPLISH OUR DREAM. :) ;)

HOPE THAT HELPS AND ITS REALLY ALREADY KNOWN INFO BY EVERYONE. NOT JUST REALIZING IT. :)
There are lot of things that i want to say about it but i'm having difficulty in expressing it everyone, sorry. :) :( :'(

BY THE HIGHWAY :in after death life, there are two destination and that is heaven and hell all you need to do is just choose. :) ;)
THERE IS NO PURGATORY!!! AT KAY PARENG TOTO KUNG MASAKIT ANG TIYAN MO MAGPA PURGA KA BAKA MAY PURGATORY SA TIYAN
MO. HEHHEHE
JOKE. ;D ;D ;D LOL

Free energy really can be achieve by a mixture of balance and unbalance wire. ??? :-\ :o ;D 8)

@stupi ;D
ano ba yan? kulung

But what does that mean?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: PARAV on March 24, 2014, 06:55:17 PM

Quote from: Leely on March 24, 2014, 05:13:58 PM
But what does that mean?
[/quote

Leely,

You ask , what does that mean????

It means, "NOTHING"--It's complete and unadulterated bullshit!!!

He is a control freak. --end of story.

Paul

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 25, 2014, 12:47:47 AM

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

I'm so very sad reading all these bad comments against me. :( :( :(

I admit i enjoy like your naughty professor giving an assignment to his students. :( :( :(

Now i can really see that we cannot please everybody whatever we do. :(

and So, Everybody is entitled in his own opinion. :(

I'm a peaceful man i was just provoked. :)

I hope stefan our principal do something about these naughty students. :)

I just want to remind everyone that i did not promise to give the exact detail of my work. :)
My goal in opening this thread is just to give tips so that brains that follows the science of amplification will explore and meet the demands
of this modern world. ;) 8)

Yes, i admit i copied my works from Tesla but it is not wrong for he is our mentor. :D

Your naughty professor.
otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 25, 2014, 01:26:53 AM

Quote from: Google on March 24, 2014, 08:56:34 AM
Tits my son,

I am just 15 years old but have completed my Post Grad. in Chemistry with honors in Physical Chemistry. I have been given multiple upgrades in one year during my Graduation course.

As per your posts you are a father of 4 , 5 or may be more kids and you must be 3 times my age.

But still I am your dad. See ¡¡¡¡

Actually you are a frustrated guy misleading eneryone here with your CUT & PASTE technology since past 5 looooooong years and have nothing to show to the world.

On top of that you ask money from forum members for your non existant circuits.

But you need to stop fooling people here, stop raising their hopes and stop wasting their time and money. Maybe you have something, which your deluded peanut brain thinks is overunity, sit on it and warm up your @$$. But for the sake of your Jesus, please stop blowing hot air from your bottom. You know you stink.

What were you before conversion ? And why you converted ? You are not even honest to your original religion, leave aside being honest to the people here. Huh !!!

Once again, go see a shrink for your Attention seeking disorder.

Kick, Kick Kick Kick, Kick Kick Kick Kick Kick Kick Kick Kick Kick (Tesla way... 3 Kicks, 6 Kicks, 9 Kicks)

Get lost you virago.

Ohhhh, your a genius but seems to be an illiterate the way you treat people.

Wow you are upgraded but still you are locking something. :)

I think i'm wasting my time here for you. :P :P :P :P :P :P
You find just one person that gave money to me huh! ???
and ask him if i accepted it! got it genius!!!!! >:(
i will wait!!!! >:(

It is you who get lost. >:(
make your own thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Do you hear that genius?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Remember that you attack me first genius!!!!!!!. >:(

Hellow my bondad!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D lol hahahahhahhahaahhahahaha

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on March 25, 2014, 02:55:38 AM

something here went tooo far,
HI Tito:
most of us in this forum are experimenters, some have good background in electronics field, some not . they need clear information about the device which they are working on. Tito's tip game has played long time, somebody feel be fooled. somebody angry with you, is normal. if you get fun to pretend to be a nauty professor, I surget you to open a new thread--Tito's nauty game, so we can all play and enjoy there.
to others:
sometimes Tito's style was so weird, but most of his tips are right, some come from Tesla , Bedini, Moray, some from his experiment. for example , lately Tito's two door's effection TIP, you can get it if you know HOW to effiently charge a CAP theory. actully, the device which Tito claimed, is multistage segmental type Tesla coil. if can replicate Tesla coil device ,you also can get that. no matter left side of Tesla coil or right side, both of them can make it.
get fun from your experiment and happy in this forum!

WEIZI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bbem on March 25, 2014, 04:25:36 AM

@Weizisky
Thank you for your wise words.
Glad you are still reading this thread.

Would you please be so kind and answer the next questions:
A while back you posted a electron and space (aether?) model, would you please upload it again?
And lastly, how do we keep/catch the △?

Thanks.
Bert

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 25, 2014, 04:46:59 AM

Quote from: weizisky on March 25, 2014, 02:55:38 AM
something here went tooo far,
HI Tito:
most of us in this forum are experimenters, some have good background in electronics field, some not . they need clear information about the device which they are working on. Tito's tip game has played long time, somebody feel be fooled. somebody angry with you, is normal. if you get fun to pretend to be a nauty professor, I surget you to open a new thread--Tito's nauty game, so we can all play and enjoy there.
to others:
sometimes Tito's style was so weird, but most of his tips are right, some come from Tesla , Bedini, Moray, some from his experiment. for example , lately Tito's two door's effection TIP, you can get it if you know HOW to effiently charge a CAP theory. actully, the device which Tito claimed, is multistage segmental type Tesla coil. if can replicate Tesla coil device ,you also can get that. no matter left side of Tesla coil or right side, both of them can make it.
get fun from your experiment and happy in this forum!

WEIZI

Sorry buddy, i am not actually playing games The tips i gave are real, they are the one who told that i am playing here, but the truth is i am not really just giving the detail but the truth is there. :)
in the first place i've already told long time ago that they should not expect the complete or the detail just jumble tips. :)

i repeat i am not playing a game ok? :)

What i just don't like here is that in spite of thanks, insult is what i get. :-\

ok ok
some friends pm me and gave an advice, and i will do it. ;)
and because of that, I will not anymore give tips. :)

ok last tip ;D :"its just a matter of doors" lol ;D
"When the door is closed, you are using the source but when the door is open, you are using the environment as the source ;)" note: environment is huge huge huge source. got it? 8)

I was already in my sleep and not anymore posting here and just see this ugly doodle google gok waking me up! >:(
well, i will not anymore put my level into his level ok :D

This is the end, i will not anymore post, promise, even they make bad comments. :)
but i will promise you everyone that i will make my video and show it here the next time i post ;) .

Let's just say that genius google wins but TOTALLY A DESPERATE LOOOOOZER :P JOKE PEACE :D :D ;D

Good bye everyone :'( :-*
This time you mark my word! >:(
Otits signing off again ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 25, 2014, 06:24:25 AM

Prof otits
Did not pm or am u
Now ur a star riray
P autopsy ko signature mo baka pogi sexy tanda
Ang umaayaw talo olat
8)
Hung video wag x rated general patronage only

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on March 25, 2014, 06:59:15 AM

All the rants are wasting people's time.
Tito will reveal what he wants when he wants, leave him alone.

Think about it if you truly had a device that produced free energy would you post it on a open public forum, would you make yourself a target, would you put your family in danger?

Read watch learn, think for yourself.

later
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Noreen Vitug on March 25, 2014, 10:20:12 AM

Sir Tito I am a big fan of you . i like yours teaching style of tips, that make me study and do the hard work by checkin affect of experemants. Sir in mine oppiniun you is a vary crative person. I salut you sir. Plase cantinu witg yours tips. most kindest regard sir, pls escuse my english s not vary grate

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Noreen Vitug on March 25, 2014, 12:46:43 PM

Sir Tito in actualy folowing yours hint in back dates i have able to multipli electriktricy currant to so much times at same volts and i was shoked by the experement, my input betery was 12 volt and mine systam able very much to get 10 time most output current. i was able to give shine brite lite from automobail halogan lamp 12 v 55 wats and loopbak the betery to charging via diods. the ststam overcharj the betery so i add one more small load at output to rebance the system.batery was hot than and now ok cold state. Systam runing continue long time to light lamps now.And i very thanking yourself for this systam of recharg batary without other power from any where. i use a small kamera motor to swiching arangement draw so power. Runing ok now will mak one big scale to run big inverter from 188 ampere deep cyckle batery to power big load. Experement like that give yours extra noledge to make more systam.
I very much interest to make antena power systam, now internet searching to get more idea on yours nice tips.
Many very thanking to yourself for this work.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on March 25, 2014, 01:24:36 PM

Quote from: bbem on March 25, 2014, 04:25:36 AM
@Weizisky
Thank you for your wise words.
Glad you are still reading this thread.

Would you please be so kind and answer the next questions:
A while back you posted a electron and space (aether?) model, would you please upload it again?
And lastly, how do we keep/catch the △?

Thanks.
Bert

HI Bbem
I upload the HEZI Theory, the original link is blocked by Gov. Here is the new link:http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3A%E5%92%8C%E5%AD%90%E8%AE%BA.pdf (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3A%E5%92%8C%E5%AD%90%E8%AE%BA.pdf)
firstly, I have to inform that the Hezi theory is a Theoretical Physics, it's not directly expound free energy, and it is chinese article(sorry, it's not easy to read ;D). you can find element particle, and electron modle pictures inside. it can help us to understand how electrons running and how the E field, M field be produced by electrons.

about how do we keep/catch the △? this question related circuits in details, I only can commonly say: the best way to keep a very fresh fruid is to eat it in your stomach. my god, I feel it is a little bit like Tito's tip. ok, I don't want wast your time, put out a example to state it clearly, a tached picture is a famous patent of Tesla, and it's simplified circuit on the right side. It is not a free nenergy device in usual use way, even when L1C1 works in resonance with L2C2. But, if you can control the swich K operate properly, you will get and keep △. all of the electrons in C1 are fat (full of energy, bz, electrons speedy spinning and lot of element particles rotate around it. when the time point come ---L2's voltage near zero, and L2's current become biggest(means L2's M flux beam is fastest), let electrons in the C1 go! these electrons will give more their surrounding element particles(means △) to L2 , and become thin(don't worry about them, they will become fat again when back to C1). this time point I call it Bedini point. you can find more time point by yourself. dont forget to close the K at proper time point, C2 will eat more and more.....

If you know the Hezi theory, you will know where , and how the △ come from. and understand what Tito's tips really said. and how the devices work in other threads.

Best

WEIZI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bbem on March 25, 2014, 03:05:14 PM

Thanks Weizisky, for the attachements, and very nice explanation.. ;D
I will need some time to digest it.

Regards, Bert

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on March 25, 2014, 05:48:54 PM

weizisky (http://www.overunity.com/profile/weizisky.38088/)
Have you built the device as per your circuit diagram?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 26, 2014, 01:15:31 PM

Check out the pictures attached and look for the following line in 2nd picture.

when i send you this, please do not just give it right away to useless and bad people. >:( ;D

Good luck and a happy free energy to all of you guys chasing your own tails. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 26, 2014, 01:23:10 PM

Quote from: Google on March 26, 2014, 01:15:31 PM
Check out the pictures attached and look for the following line in 2nd picture.

when i send you this, please do not just give it right away to useless and bad people. >:( ;D

Good luck and a happy free energy to all of you guys chasing your own tails. ;D

Dude,
What's the purpose of posting all of this? You've made your point, now move on.
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 26, 2014, 01:33:11 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on March 26, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
Dude,
What's the purpose of posting all of this? You've made your point, now move on.
B

Banking on number of posts to reach Hero member status 8) joke joke joke

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on March 26, 2014, 02:44:42 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on March 25, 2014, 05:48:54 PM
weizisky (http://www.overunity.com/profile/weizisky.38088/)
Have you built the device as per your circuit diagram?

I did not post any circuit diagram here, except Tesla Ozone patent in last post. yes, I succesfully replicated it's simplified type device.

WEIZI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on March 26, 2014, 02:50:37 PM

Google, grow up.

This would be a lot better thread without the Tito detractions. Energy amplification. A lot of people have posted a lot of interesting ideas.

Here Google. Chew on this.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 26, 2014, 03:11:13 PM

Quote from: totoalas on March 26, 2014, 01:33:11 PM
Banking on number of posts to reach Hero member status 8) joke joke joke

Banking on grid electricity theft by induction to make private videos 8) joke joke joke

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 26, 2014, 03:13:46 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on March 26, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
Dude,
What's the purpose of posting all of this? You've made your point, now move on.
B

::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 26, 2014, 03:48:25 PM

Quote from: Cadman on March 26, 2014, 02:50:37 PM

This would be a lot better thread without the Tito detractions.

;D ;D ;D ;D

Ok, jokes apart, as I said was studying the newer patents of Tesla, I came across a cryptic statement made by the inventor himself. It is ringing in my ears and resonating at Shumann frequency in my mind.

Does it ring bells in your head too Sir cadman. If it doesnt ring, you may put my post in the iggy bin.

It is evident from the above that the greater the number of the freely-vibrating circuits which alternately receive and transmit energy from one to another the greater, relatively, will be the gain secured by applying my invention.

- Nikola Tesla

Think sir think, for sometime, just put everything aside and ponder on this statement of the statesman Tesla. ;D

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 27, 2014, 07:04:04 AM

Now everyone is silent. Either you didnt get it or you got it and thinking how to create an overunity setup. ;D ;D

In either case no one will discuss or share anything here thinking that if he does so, others will benefit from this idea. ;D ;D

This is the biggest problem of increasing human energy !!! Everyone is so very friendly and co operative till they find the BIG SECRET. Once they get it their attitude instantly changes. Everyone falls silent once they get the secret of INCREASING HUMAN ENERGY. >:(

Lets try another secret now, the secret of increasing human stupidity exponentially. But thats not a secret because EnergyFromTheVaccuum is possible right now and right here. ;D ;D ;D

Come on guys........ post your circuits now.... for our CHILDREN and MOTHER EARTH. Lord Jesus bless us all with free energy. Amen !!

Lets not pollute anymore by burning coal, gas and oil. Lets use electrical resonance to power our homes and cars.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on March 27, 2014, 07:13:09 AM

Hi Google,

Have you seen this post here? : http://www.overunity.com/8841/electrical-igniter-for-gas-engines-a-keystone-to-understanding-by-magluvin/msg233241/#msg233241

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 27, 2014, 07:28:24 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on March 27, 2014, 07:13:09 AM
Hi Google,

Have you seen this post here? : http://www.overunity.com/8841/electrical-igniter-for-gas-engines-a-keystone-to-understanding-by-magluvin/msg233241/#msg233241

Gyula

Sir, Gyula. Thanks for your link. Now since you got the secret please share it with us. Maybe if you fear MIB or something, you may use a different account from a cybercafe.

Post it on as many sites and forums as possible so that maximum people get it and it multiplies and really benefits the mankind.

If you do not do this NOW, our Children and grand children will have to buy fresh breathing air from the same oil barons who are polluting our atmosphere.

Imagine a scenario where fresh breathing air is in short supply on earth and there are large holes in the ozone layer of the ionosphere.

Please do the mankind a favour now and post the circuit ASAP. No one can force you to do that but if you do that you will be a happy man.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 27, 2014, 07:31:33 AM

And since it be open sourced, no one will be able to patent it or commercialise it for their own greed. I hope I am talking sense.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on March 27, 2014, 07:33:58 AM

His brother is right, will you feed his wife and children, will you console their hearts.

People are starting to understand, its coming, be patient.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on March 27, 2014, 07:39:19 AM

Hi Google,

I posted the link to show you that Tito did not send any email to those members he had listed, this is what I think from that post.

Unfortunately, I do not know Tito's secret I did not receive it either (by the way I was not included in his list).
If I knew his secret or if I have menaged to figure it out, I would share it openly, without any fear.

Why did you write I knew the secret I wonder?

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 27, 2014, 09:26:59 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on March 27, 2014, 07:33:58 AM
His brother is right, will you feed his wife and children, will you console their hearts.

People are starting to understand, its coming, be patient.

I think you are right Sir dave. I too realised it now.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 27, 2014, 09:30:52 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on March 27, 2014, 07:39:19 AM
Hi Google,

I posted the link to show you that Tito did not send any email to those members he had listed, this is what I think from that post.

Unfortunately, I do not know Tito's secret I did not receive it either (by the way I was not included in his list).
If I knew his secret or if I have menaged to figure it out, I would share it openly, without any fear.

Why did you write I knew the secret I wonder?

Gyula

Sorry Sir Gyula, I think no one knows the secret to free energy except a few, who are in fact really scared for their lives.

And they will have to keep the secret inside their head for good.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 27, 2014, 11:13:03 AM

Quote from: Google on March 26, 2014, 03:48:25 PM

It is evident from the above that the greater the number of the freely-vibrating circuits which alternately receive and transmit energy from one to another the greater, relatively, will be the gain secured by applying my invention.

- Nikola Tesla

Everyone missed my original point :

The point that you missed is that the acoustic guitar's body is a natural amplifier needing no energy from the ELECTRIC COMPANY. It actually stores the waves entering it, and emits waves of greater amplitude commensurate with the amount of wave energy it can store. It is truly an interesting phenomenon that is very different from 99.9% of all physics.

Can we move on building on this idea in electrical resonance beliving what Tesla stated in his patent application ?

Any ideas, comments welcome.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 27, 2014, 11:42:48 AM

Tesla shook a building with his mechanical oscillator. No matter how long he operated the machine, its total output would never have been enough to shake the entire building and the street.

Tesla, himself, didn't consider it strange, because he knew how resonance works.

Come on .... is anyone there ??

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on March 27, 2014, 11:52:23 AM

Quote from: Google on March 27, 2014, 11:13:03 AM
Everyone missed my original point :

The point that you missed is that the acoustic guitar's body is a natural amplifier needing no energy from the ELECTRIC COMPANY. It actually stores the waves entering it, and emits waves of greater amplitude commensurate with the amount of wave energy it can store. It is truly an interesting phenomenon that is very different from 99.9% of all physics.

Can we move on building on this idea in electrical resonance beliving what Tesla stated in his patent application ?

Any ideas, comments welcome.

I dont want to offend you but I think the guitar analogy does not hold.

A guitar as a whole as an amplifying instrument is very unefficient - app. 7%

Tesla resonator is a different story - it has to colect and accumulate vibrations in order to bring down the building.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 27, 2014, 12:03:06 PM

Quote from: bboj on March 27, 2014, 11:52:23 AM

Dear friend bboj, your answers holds the secret key to the effect of resonance. You yourself said "7% efficient for AMPLIFICATION.

That means by employing proper means of amplification we can get over many times the amplification of the meagre energy spent in plucking in the string of the acoustic guitar. Isnt it ?

Guys lets carry this on, we will reach overunity by resonant amplification ONLY.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on March 27, 2014, 12:49:23 PM

;D ;D ;D
insults made the host dispeared, visitor is going to hold a party here. It's not easy. guests need food, wine, and music to serve.

in a broad sense, there are no secrets in Free Energy now. not be so naive going to save today's world by a free energy device. if it can do, Tesla, Moray, Bedini had done long long time ago, need waiting untill today by us? but it's not the end of the world. when the Group almost dig out the last one dollar from oil, coal, they will begin to dig free energy dollars.

I believe most member here be able to play a free energy device, at least can built Bedini SG. why not to do it, and to analysis it's working principle. and design yourself device? what is a secret? it means day and day's testing, reading, working! it actually means circuit diagram in details ?!. Tito refuse to give it, maybe he did not keep his words, that is his right. we should to learn to accept that, and to appreciate his contribution for this thread.
I do not want to blame anyone, I just hope us calm down, to discuss, to share what we all like.

ok, I want some drinking now, i am going to other party.

WEIZI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Paul-R on March 27, 2014, 01:18:13 PM

Quote from: Google on March 27, 2014, 07:28:24 AM

Maybe if you fear MIB or something, you may use a different account from a cybercafe.

If the MIB were so strong, why have they not pursued Nissan for producing their Leaf car?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 27, 2014, 01:22:36 PM

Quote from: weizisky on March 27, 2014, 12:49:23 PM
;D ;D ;D
insults made the host dispeared, visitor is going to hold a party here. It's not easy. guests need food, wine, and music to serve.

in a broad sense, there are no secrets in Free Energy now. not be so naive going to save today's world by a free energy device. if it can do, Tesla, Moray, Bedini had done long long time ago, need waiting untill today by us? but it's not the end of the world. when the Group almost dig out the last one dollar from oil, coal, they will begin to dig free energy dollars.

I believe most member here be able to play a free energy device, at least can built Bedini SG. why not to do it, and to analysis it's working principle. and design yourself device? what is a secret? it means day and day's testing, reading, working! it actually means circuit diagram in details ?!. Tito refuse to give it, maybe he did not keep his words, that is his right. we should to learn to accept that, and to appreciate his contribution for this thread.
I do not want to blame anyone, I just hope us calm down, to discuss, to share what we all like.

ok, I want some drinking now, i am going to other party.

WEIZI

;D ;D ;D

I dont want to run any party as food drink music and wine are not free like Bedini Bearden free energy, leaving the empty hall now. Going to sleep. Good night. Sweet free energy dreams to all members. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 27, 2014, 01:35:43 PM

Quote from: Paul-R on March 27, 2014, 01:18:13 PM
If the MIB were so strong, why have they not pursued Nissan for producing their Leaf car?

You are bang on the point Mr Paul. Didnt you hear that Mr Carlos Ghosn is seeking a safe asylum from MIBs. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

When an inventor is asked to support his claim, all the stories of MIBs visiting them start pouring in. Its a historically repeated excuse to crawl under the carpet to escape the questioning skeptics.

I wonder why physicists working on a bench day and night, with state of the art equipment are unable to discover these overunity effects, that the uneducated non scientific FREE ENERGY QUACKS find so easily reading all those Beardens whose MIGs never worked.

Bedinis motor at the most is a desulfator or conditioner. Let me send Bedinis email id to NOBEL PRIZE committee. He deserves it more than anyone else. ;D

Thanks for your post.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 28, 2014, 12:15:04 AM

Quote from: weizisky on March 25, 2014, 01:24:36 PM
HI Bbem
I upload the HEZI Theory, the original link is blocked by Gov. Here is the new link:http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3A%E5%92%8C%E5%AD%90%E8%AE%BA.pdf (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3A%E5%92%8C%E5%AD%90%E8%AE%BA.pdf)
firstly, I have to inform that the Hezi theory is a Theoretical Physics, it's not directly expound free energy, and it is chinese article(sorry, it's not easy to read ;D ). you can find element particle, and electron modle pictures inside. it can help us to understand how electrons running and how the E field, M field be produced by electrons.

about how do we keep/catch the △? this question related circuits in details, I only can commonly say: the best way to keep a very fresh fruid is to eat it in your stomach. my god, I feel it is a little bit like Tito's tip. ok, I don't want wast your time, put out a example to state it clearly, a tached picture is a famous patent of Tesla, and it's simplified circuit on the right side. It is not a free nenergy device in usual use way, even when L1C1 works in resonance with L2C2. But, if you can control the swich K operate properly, you will get and keep △. all of the electrons in C1 are fat (full of energy, bz, electrons speedy spinning and lot of element particles rotate around it. when the time point come ---L2's voltage near zero, and L2's current become biggest(means L2's M flux beam is fastest), let electrons in the C1 go! these electrons will give more their surrounding element particles(means △) to L2 , and become thin(don't worry about them, they will become fat again when back to C1). this time point I call it Bedini point. you can find more time point by yourself. dont forget to close the K at proper time point, C2 will eat more and more.....

If you know the Hezi theory, you will know where , and how the △ come from. and understand what Tito's tips really said. and how the devices work in other threads.

Best

WEIZI

Hey Weizisky

In your circuit you had shown in the above post, where is the output taken from?

Thanks

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 28, 2014, 02:27:46 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on March 28, 2014, 12:15:04 AM
Hey Weizisky

In your circuit you had shown in the above post, where is the output taken from?

Thanks

Mags

Mags, as soon as you free yourself from that wrong statement you will find excess energy. Output is not taken from circuit, it is taken from outside...It's basically special radio transmitter - receiver, with emphasis on special

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on March 28, 2014, 11:47:36 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on March 28, 2014, 12:15:04 AM
Hey Weizisky

In your circuit you had shown in the above post, where is the output taken from?

Thanks

Mags

Hey Mags

the C2 itself is a out put circuit, C2 will release a volume of electrons between the two C2's pole plates to produce ozone.
you also can place a L3 to feedsome energy back to the source, it's up to your need.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on March 28, 2014, 12:07:16 PM

Quote from: forest on March 28, 2014, 02:27:46 AM

Mags, as soon as you free yourself from that wrong statement you will find excess energy. Output is not taken from circuit,it is taken from outside ...It's basically special radio transmitter - receiver, with emphasis on special

Hi forest
very happy to see you get that:it is taken from outside, it means you partly got Tito's tip: the energy come from envirement. But not YinYang tech.
Is there a independent envirement in this world? every things influnce each other, no circuit, therefore no radiant energy. go back to check Tesla's transmitter device plz.
I am stating some thing about where, not How.

Best

WEIZI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 28, 2014, 01:40:14 PM

Here is a simple circuit that needs very fast switching and will solve the puzzle. Just replace the LED with a 12 volt to 12 volt xformer. And use a strong 12 volt battery as a source, so that voltage doesnt drop when you are shorting the cap with battery during switching.

With one 12 volt battery as source, you can have as many of these running in parallel and one of the trafo, feeding back to the source battery.

All these outputs can be individually recitified and filtered and fed into another 12 volt battery that can feed your 220 / 110 volt inverter.

You may add a solar panel to trickle charge the source battery in addition to the above to keep your dipole strong.

Faster is the switching, longer the battery will last.

Also one motor with many switching points on its extended shaft will synchronise the whole thing and will get you going for long.

You may also use arrays of old time diodes No. 1N5062. Each of 1N5062 will supply approx 0.35 volts in sunlight, flouroscent or any other light source but with good current.

To get a 12 volt charging voltage you can put 35 such diodes in series. And similar arrays in parallel to get higher current, feeding the source battery.

It will good idea to have a separate capacitor to feed every xformer for better current output.

Hope this helps with your energy amplification builds. Please do share your results.

Electronics experts on the forum can suggest further improvements in the circuit for better efficiencies.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 28, 2014, 02:19:36 PM

You can now make supercaps at home using :

Paper towels, lemon juice, activated carbon charcoal used to clean water in acquariums and two copper clad PC boards.

Can be used anywhere you need.

Picture enclosed.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bbem on March 28, 2014, 04:29:56 PM

Quote from: weizisky on October 16, 2013, 05:28:52 AM
Hi Gyulasun, everyone

Gyulasun you are absolutely ringt. Then we can know which tank is easier to transform and stimulate energy to another tank in what kind of energy.
If you get that, you can understand ALL TESLA COIL working method. and will know which enventor's device does work., which one does not work, which one is better, which one is not. and Forest also can know why Tesla always use HV in depth.
so, you can make your free device now.

one more thing you have to think, where the free energy come from? It is not from eath, air, Zero pint, it also not from cap, coil !!!
if you get anwser, to make free energy is a piece of cake .

Hello Weizisky,
Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us.
About the hint you gave to forest; Is the statement above what you meant with checking Tesla's transmitter?

BTW are you using Tesla bifilar pancake coils in the ozon circuit?

Regards, Bert

Quote from: weizisky on October 16, 2013, 03:29:46 PM[/font]forest:actually free energy comes from resonance and resonance must be in resonance with energy which is directly powering Earth tell us a method of making free energy. not the source of free energy come from. the free energy come from the electrons which impact each other between resonance tanks. maybe it's not easy to understand that, because you dont have electron's model. free energy in above resonance tanks mean electrons kick other electrons, result: get more energy.

[/font]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on March 28, 2014, 09:31:17 PM

Google:

My comments after >>>:

>>> I am only responding to a few of your comments to start with some basics.

Here is a simple circuit that needs very fast switching and will solve the puzzle. Just replace the LED with a 12 volt to 12 volt xformer. And use a strong 12 volt battery as a source, so that voltage doesnt drop when you are shorting the cap with battery during switching.

>>> You should draw the transformer version of the circuit so there is no ambiguity.

>>> The battery is separated from the capacitor by a 1kohm resistor so there is no need for a strong battery.

>>> Can you draw a timing diagram for one of the circuits?

Faster is the switching, longer the battery will last.

>>> What is the reason for that?

You may also use arrays of old time diodes No. 1N5062. Each of 1N5062 will supply approx 0.35 volts in sunlight, flouroscent or any other light source but with good current.

>>> Have you ever measured the power output?

MileHigh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 28, 2014, 10:06:48 PM

Quote from: weizisky on March 28, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Hey Mags

the C2 itself is a out put circuit, C2 will release a volume of electrons between the two C2's pole plates to produce ozone.
you also can place a L3 to feedsome energy back to the source, it's up to your need.

Thanks Weizisky. I am not understanding the ozone part. Also, are we talking about a special capacitor?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 28, 2014, 10:33:39 PM

Quote from: MileHigh on March 28, 2014, 09:31:17 PM
Google:

My comments after >>>:

>>> I am only responding to a few of your comments to start with some basics.

Here is a simple circuit that needs very fast switching and will solve the puzzle. Just replace the LED with a 12 volt to 12 volt xformer. And use a strong 12 volt battery as a source, so that voltage doesnt drop when you are shorting the cap with battery during switching.

>>> You should draw the transformer version of the circuit so there is no ambiguity.

>>> The battery is separated from the capacitor by a 1kohm resistor so there is no need for a strong battery.

>>> Can you draw a timing diagram for one of the circuits?

Faster is the switching, longer the battery will last.

>>> What is the reason for that?

You may also use arrays of old time diodes No. 1N5062. Each of 1N5062 will supply approx 0.35 volts in sunlight, flouroscent or any other light source but with good current.

>>> Have you ever measured the power output?

MileHigh

Thanks Sir MileHigh,

I will soon draw the detailed circuit and post for scrutiny.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 28, 2014, 10:47:01 PM

Quote from: forest on March 28, 2014, 02:27:46 AM

Mags, as soon as you free yourself from that wrong statement you will find excess energy. Output is not taken from circuit, it is taken from outside...It's basically special radio transmitter - receiver, with emphasis on special

Hey Forest

So what do we need?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 01:28:15 AM

Dear Sir MileHigh,

Here is the proposed schema, this is just a first iteration, subject to improvements by inputs to improve the efficiency further. Like using a bifilar in the primary of T1 T2 and T3.

High impedance coils may be added in the circuit in series with the cap. Just thinking aloud.

Kindly have a look and respond.

Many thanks.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on March 29, 2014, 01:53:45 AM

Google here is the improved schematic that you privately asked me to provide. It is more efficient than your concept schematic. It is unfortunately not over unity either.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on March 29, 2014, 02:00:43 AM

Can someone explain why the secondary of the tesla coil is on the one side of the primary and not on the center? ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 02:53:09 AM

Thanks Sir. ;D

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on March 29, 2014, 03:10:42 AM

Google:

I don't know what you are thanking me for. The fundamental issue for your type of circuit is that you are trying to return energy to the battery, but that energy came from the battery itself. There is no know case of a circuit pulling itself up by its own bootstraps like that. MarkE pointed out were many real-world losses come into play. Whenever you have a diode in a circuit that is conducting, that causes a loss just like a resistor. The logical argument continues: There is also resistance in the interconnect wires and the coil wires. That causes losses. When a battery makes a direct connection to a discharged capacitor there is a loss in the battery and a loss in the interconnect wire.

All the losses become heat which eventually makes its way into outer space and it's lost forever.

MileHigh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 03:16:23 AM

Bucking coil : Is the counter emf, generated by a bucking coil higher in energy than the input energy supplied to charge a bucking coil ? If the answer is yes... can we go ahead and exploit it ?

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on March 29, 2014, 04:12:38 AM

Quote from: Google on March 29, 2014, 03:16:23 AM
Bucking coil : Is the counter emf, generated by a bucking coil higher in energy than the input energy supplied to charge a bucking coil ? If the answer is yes... can we go ahead and exploit it ?

Best,

No, it is not. There is nothing to exploit in terms of gaining energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 05:29:36 AM

Thanks Sirs for clarifying.
:)
Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on March 29, 2014, 05:34:38 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on March 29, 2014, 02:00:43 AM
Can someone explain why the secondary of the tesla coil is on the one side of the primary and not on the center? ???

Sure. It's because the secondary of the standard TC is a quarter-wavelength resonator, with the "node" at the base where the primary is, and the peak amplitude at the "free end", the top capacity. It's like whipping a rope. You make a small quick motion at the end you are holding, and the other end whips through a large swing.
You can make center-driven TCs too, by making the secondary twice as long electrically: a half-wave resonator.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on March 29, 2014, 05:36:45 AM

Quote from: MileHigh on March 29, 2014, 03:10:42 AM

All the losses become heat which eventually makes its way into outer space and it's lost forever.

MileHigh

But...but.... Tesla! Wheelwork of Nature! Radiant energy! Dark Matter! Zipons!

So there.
:P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 07:09:18 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on March 29, 2014, 05:36:45 AM
But...but.... Tesla! Wheelwork of Nature! Radiant energy! Dark Matter! Zipons!

So there.
:P

I am so sure, Sir TK has already made this and tested for a negative result, thats why he is so sure of what he is saying. ;D

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on March 29, 2014, 07:40:04 AM

Nope no extra energy there, no sense in even looking
cant be done, dont look
we know everything, pack up your bags and go home nothing to see here
I agree, you agree, yep
here Ill pat you on the back and you can pat me, we all agree so it must be right

Google youv been trolled

If you have an idea check it out for yourself dont listen to these trolls.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 09:00:38 AM

Trolls post here maximum ? Pun intended. ;D ;D ;D

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on March 29, 2014, 09:14:54 AM

You know you guy's shouldnt bunch up like this you give yourselves away

spread out more, and dont pat each other on the back in public, people might get suspicious

ya know I heard Tinseltroll was getting paid more than Markytroll but this is just what I heard, I could be wrong ;D

dont worry Hoppytroll you'll get a raise, you have to post more

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 09:15:54 AM

Sir Dave, the circuit I posted works just by using potential difference. Just shifting the potential difference of the strong battery by fast but controllable switching using commutator mounted on a shaft of a DC motor. Motor should be high speed one with rpm control circuit to control the switching speed to gain the optimum (max) output.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 29, 2014, 09:38:57 AM

Tito's devices work on basic principles.
The first is embodied in the clues he left through YT video links about the loop antenna crystal radio. In another thread, he speaks of a ceramic cap with a tail, the tail being a coil. The coil is a receiver, like the loop antenna in the crystal radio.
So, with the coil, we have a receiver charging a cap, which is discharging.
So what does the cap discharge into? And how is its kick amplified? And how is electricity taken from this system without destroying its oscillations?
The principles have been discussed many times.
Later,
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 10:20:11 AM

Oh Sir Bob. You know how this works. Why not be a bit more philanthropic and share the circuit schema with us so that the principle can be understood and it can be replicated and tested and developed further for high power outputs to run a car or a home.

I am sure, apart from trolls and secret keeps, there are genuine people here in search of the TRUTH.

Why not end our search by sharing a bit of your genius. :D

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on March 29, 2014, 12:21:11 PM

These guys are much akin to N.A.S.A. The meaning of the name is Never A Straight Answer.

They do nothing but armchair your questions. They do no experiments. They do nothing but rely of their limited close boxed minds.

They cite resistances and losses but fail to take into account certain methods to reduce those losses.

Case in point: Tesla was searching for a way to reduce losses along a very long transmission line in his AC system. His answer was not to reduce the resistance but to change the current traveling along the very same resistance so that it reduced the effects of the resistance. How was this done? Tesla raised the potential and lowered the current flowing in the line. Walla he could now transfer many many times the amount of power by simply changing the character of the current flowing over the line.

Losses became moot and the line distance could become so great that getting the current to it's destination, no matter how far, could happen with the least possible losses due to resistance. Now this did increase a loss of a different kind. And Tesla even found out how to reduce those as well. http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-514,167-electrical-conductor Althought this was never implemented in the current system due to the expense. Very short minded if you ask me.

I will post more when I have more time.

There are a great many here that do not want to find anything but what they have learned in traditional ways. They make or have made a great amount of money off their efforts and to a certain extent it is an ego thing and nothing more. Instead of experimenting and learning from those experiments they sit there doing nothing but babble on and thump the bible of electronics believing in fictitious elements like the electron to justify their method. Their method is full of losses for a reason. It gives more value to what they produce and that is electricity. If they produced anything that broke those golden rules it would bring down the value of what they are selling or have sold.

You know who they are, now it is up to you to ignore them and do your experiments. They will go away when we refuse to react to their tripe.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 12:48:36 PM

Quote from: jbignes5 on March 29, 2014, 12:21:11 PM

These guys are much akin to N.A.S.A. The meaning of the name is Never A Straight Answer.

They do nothing but armchair your questions. They do no experiments. They do nothing but rely of their limited close boxed minds.

They cite resistances and losses but fail to take into account certain methods to reduce those losses.

Case in point: Tesla was searching for a way to reduce losses along a very long transmission line in his AC system. His answer was not to reduce the resistance but to change the current traveling along the very same resistance so that it reduced the effects of the resistance. How was this done? Tesla raised the potential and lowered the current flowing in the line. Walla he could now transfer many many times the amount of power by simply changing the character of the current flowing over the line.

Losses became moot and the line distance could become so great that getting the current to it's destination, no matter how far, could happen with the least possible losses due to resistance. Now this did increase a loss of a different kind. And Tesla even found out how to reduce those as well. http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-514,167-electrical-conductor Althought this was never implemented in the current system due to the expense. Very short minded if you ask me.

I will post more when I have more time.

There are a great many here that do not want to find anything but what they have learned in traditional ways. They make or have made a great amount of money off their efforts and to a certain extent it is an ego thing and nothing more. Instead of experimenting and learning from those experiments they sit there doing nothing but babble on and thump the bible of electronics believing in fictitious elements like the electron to justify their method. Their method is full of losses for a reason. It gives more value to what they produce and that is electricity. If they produced anything that broke those golden rules it would bring down the value of what they are selling or have sold.

You know who they are, now it is up to you to ignore them and do your experiments. They will go away when we refuse to react to their tripe.

Sir, It is best to understand things from ones own perspective and logic and try out things whether they work or not.

I discovered that TPU = PMH. Just by experimenting. :-X

Sir, I think we need more inputs from you.

Best,

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 01:35:21 PM

I love the idea of reverse engg. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on March 29, 2014, 01:38:01 PM

Just to answer the original question there is work being done on this already. I think this is from the guy doing the "Tros" system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFGTQ06yeEw&list=PLO6FJVqlxatdprKQA1BhrJCML2tbomVJ2#t=244

Sorry that this is a playlist but it might help you to understand it a bit more. The first video should help you.

The funny thing is this guy is using the radiative effects to perform useful work out of the wasted emissions.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 02:03:25 PM

Recycling the leakages.thats a good one.

Thanks for the link.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 02:44:59 PM

Ooops sorry :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 02:47:04 PM

Ooops sorry :(

;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 03:16:35 PM

Ooops sorry :(

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 29, 2014, 03:31:58 PM

another useless page ....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 04:09:39 PM

Oh hahaha , ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ooops sorry :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 04:11:34 PM

Quote from: forest on March 29, 2014, 03:31:58 PM
another useless page ....

Mr Village boy forest ! Is the bandwidth going from your pocket ?? >:( >:(

Just a joke. ;D

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 29, 2014, 05:07:12 PM

Still with the first principle...
Tito mentions Moray a number of times, alluding to his tapping into the "sea of energy in which the earth floats." Tito has also mentioned and posted diagrams of Tesla's Radiant Energy Receiver. Again, it is the idea of tapping into this sea of radiant energy, though using a coil, rather than Tesla's metal plate.
So, we tap into the sea of radiant energy and it goes into a capacitor. Teets mentioned a 470nF (I believe this was the value) ceramic cap.

How do we scale up the discharges from this capacitor?
Later,
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on March 29, 2014, 05:44:42 PM

Here is a musical interlude in honour of Jbignes5:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2z19i3N9wk

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 08:25:17 PM

Quote from: MileHigh on March 29, 2014, 05:44:42 PM
Here is a musical interlude in honour of Jbignes5:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2z19i3N9wk

Patrice Rushen. Wooo Hahaha !! :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 08:38:00 PM

;) oops..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 09:05:12 PM

?.....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 29, 2014, 09:16:57 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on March 29, 2014, 05:07:12 PM
How do we scale up the discharges from this capacitor?

Excellent question Bob! :P ;D
Well... maybe we could use a few more caps and diodes, kind of like the setup in Kipkay's "Free Energy from thin Air."
Tito certainly mentioned that one a few times:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoqn2sFsrzg
But at some point someone also mentioned the Cockcroft-Walton voltage multiplier, with a picture or two. Hmm... why not?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockcroft-Walton_generator

But you know, maybe we don't need really high voltage just yet. Maybe we need to consider some other concepts mentioned by Tito.

More to come ....

Vamos a ver quien tiene la razón, verdad? ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7waP7-IiUU
Más tarde...
Roberto ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on March 29, 2014, 10:06:07 PM

Ok ok..

I understand the invitation to chat with you now.
The ignore list is getting bigger by the day... Welcome to the club...

Adue'

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 11:41:10 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 30, 2014, 03:49:51 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 30, 2014, 07:03:30 AM

It's useless..I explained it many times... if you have a charged capacitor and after discharge you have it also charged but without much power taken from original power source then you have a real radio transmitter. You do not tap that energy, you seek for ambient background response

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 30, 2014, 07:53:33 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on March 30, 2014, 09:24:45 AM

Hey Google

Who deleted your posts? why? what's the matter.

WEIZI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 30, 2014, 09:44:54 AM

It seems someone is trying to get into my laptop. Now I switched back to my tab as its relatively safer. I had some important information posted here from some older threads, which I felt could have helped people here to fathom the truth of real free energy, but it seems there is some active shill, who doesnt want some of my posts here.

I am surprised, who it can be ? Someone loves playing pranks here. ;D ;D

Well we can discuss all I wrote once again. I posted some circuits also, they are all gone. >:( >:(

Someone really ghosting with my account, it seems ? >:(

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on March 30, 2014, 10:29:37 AM

@Google

It seems that someone has modified your posts. Hmmmmmm. But it does indicate a net improvement on the subject matter. (hehehe just jok'in there man) (could not "resist")

Usually the only guy that can do that is the thread moderator but this should never be done arbitrarily without advising the posting @member. Not cool. Forum rules stipulate that we'll have to contact Interpol immediately.

@Bob Smith

Who said the radiant energy has to be only natural ambient style when all circuits can produce their own as a sub-effect of a main process. Usually all this energy is just dissipated back into the ether space.

Also, if test devices were operated inside a one square foot closed box with a thermometer inside and outside the box where the user can observe a gradual increase and/or stabilization of the Delta T and include that energy increase in the output calculations, it seems to me that many devices will already go over the COP of 1. Devices where mosfets would be prime candidates. But that part is always neglected or just lost in the COP consideration.

Hmmmm. Maybe this thread has depleted all its neurons and is now running in zombie mode.
Hmmmm. Or, maybe I'm running in zombie mode. hahaha

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 30, 2014, 11:17:59 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: From other Planet on March 30, 2014, 11:51:29 AM

so much hate and frustration and arrogance here. This wont lead to working device. Maybe just for a second forget all u learned before and just listen and feel what Tito says. Or what great Nikola Tesla tells us. Maybe u will understand more

kind regards and peace

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 30, 2014, 12:53:49 PM

;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on March 30, 2014, 01:06:53 PM

One final comment then back to my studies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMFPe-DwULM&list=PL04B3F5636096478C

This is the way most tackle the thing they do not understand. Even when some have tried to explain by real examples (experiments). They tend to ignore others attempts to explain even when they are asking why or what is happening. This is the fundamental problem we all face in this field. They only look to what they have experienced as to the explanation and not look to experiments showing otherwise. When it violates what they have learned previously they resort to thinking how it could be done by fraud instead of the way presented. Yes in some cases there has been fraud but as most have seen here fraud only results from being proven it is fraud, not by merely suggesting a way it could be fraud.

Most think matter is solid. Well you couldn't be further from the truth. All matter is not solid, thats a fact. It is the spooky action at a distance that is the one true fact! What is in between is the answer. Since all matter has space in-between, it is the in-between that holds the secret! Whatever this in-between is should be the question and since everything has this in between it is a very very important discovery that some have explored. This includes Tesla among some very prominent thinkers. Tesla found out more about the in-between then any other because he experimented and learned how to move this in-between and found a way to receive this movement through intensity. The movement also is much related to density of the in-between and it's variations and how to vary it through intensity.

Take it for what it is,
jbignes5

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: From other Planet on March 30, 2014, 01:25:21 PM

Google, I want give u one more hint: the more aggression and hate u show towards others, the less they will want to help u building a working device... ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on March 30, 2014, 04:26:53 PM

@jbignes5

If you are interested in learning about how I see the world of electricity which is definitely not your standard method, I openly put up the starter doc here;

http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/theoreticals/

This is just the beginning for me as eventually I need to get that document expanded.

When Feynman talked about the big generator turning and this makes other generators turn in the city, for me this is what I have called Spin Conveyance (SC) because that is exactly what it is. He just has skimmed the issue without knowing it. As in the small, as in the large. The big image of a fractal is the same as the smallest image in the fractal. Nothing changes but the scale.

SC would explain all electrical phenomena as per their present formulas and it is much more intuitive for the human mind then trying to learn the present "electron flow" while asking and asking "Yes but why?" and always getting the answer "Because that's the way it is", just like he said himself.

In the micro sense, to know what electricity is you really have to go in fact back to that one gigantic generator because that's where it all starts for man. Don't start at your wall plug. That's not where it comes from. hahaha

To know the origin of what really electricity is, you still have to go back technically even further to understand why the hell atoms exist in the first place. That one common denominator between all mass in the universe, mass that seems dead to us but is in fact alive and spinning, all has one simple rule. I had pondered that question for years now. So what is that rule? In my eyes it is this. Movement. How does it move. The first movement was the Big Bang that started the race for all the galaxies and all that is in them. The rule is that if you can speed up your movement fast enough, you become mass with electrons, otherwise, you are to slow and you are just matter, which is dead electron-less nuclei without any electrons. As an analogy, you go from a nucleus that has no electrons which is "matter" at let's say the size of a pin head, and then at a certain critical speed of movement through the universal ether, that pin head attracts electrons and becomes an atom the size of a basketball.

Anyways if you are interested in knowing where I come from on this subject, I at least put it all out there and that is the basis of all my works. That's how I see things these days and not as most see things as they were taught in school.

When others look to see electron flow, I look to see Spin Conveyance. I will still explain effects in the standard sense because I know that know one will understand anything else. hahaha

So for me my major dilemma is what do I do? Do I spend time explaining SC while knocking my brains out trying to turn already concrete filled minds that are set in their ways, or do I spend my time working on OU to at least try and bring free energy to the world ASAP. Right now I am on the later and really hope this OU will be disclosed by me or anyone else, I don't really care about that, but when that happens, I will be free to then explain SC and why free energy is not only now possible but in fact here and this time, here to stay.

wattsup

PS: But I also have learned another thing during my number of years on the forum. This type of discourse is not useful in a true thread working towards OU. In a thread dedicated to fooling around like this one, hehehe (kudos to @teets and gang), you could talk about anything, but in a real OU thread, you should not interject in them with anything else but what is directly related to the cause.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on March 30, 2014, 05:09:38 PM

I really didn't want to get into yet another discussion on this subject in this thread.

I don't have an issue with you or the way you see thing. FYI

Your vision is quite like mine.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on March 31, 2014, 01:24:33 AM

dear friends and reserchers,

AA. i am a new enterant to the forum and find a lot of useful information here. the topic of energy magnification really interested me and i read all of mr. tito's hints.

i personally feel, he has some really out of the box thinking and has some excelent ideas, which need to be understood well and developed in a working prototype.

having said that, mr. tito has always hinted no to kill the dipole, using the battery, without using it. isn't it wierd i first thought, but the deeper and deeper reading of some other posts made me very clear that it can be accomplished by a simple arrangement of a high inductance coil, a diode, a capacitor (fast charging and discharging one probably), an efficint switching technique, a 24 v battery and an efficient transformer with a low inductance-low resistance primary, and of course some creative thinking.

i was mulling over and over again and got a very simple yet efficient way in which the above components, if arranged thoughtfully can give out a good testing basis of mr. tito's theory (or device) of the very first stage of his device.

i would like to present my idea here to all of you all and proceed from here only after - either its shot down due to some inherent discrepancies or its accepted for further development.

we might use a reed switch and a magnet near it for tuning the switching time etc. (i actually haven't given it much thought yet)

BB. if we actually imagine a high self inductance coil as a flywheel that has its own inertia, it acts to oppose any flow of current through it while charginging but once fully charged it goes with the flow of the current, similarly when it is disconnected from the source it tends to maintain its inertia of movement of current flow and tries to oppose the disruption (reduction) in current by inducing a high voltage in order to maintain its inertia of movement, which it acquired during the charging process.

CC. a capacitor on the other hand stores the charge corresponding to the voltage applied acoross its terminal. Lower the voltage - lower the charge. Higher the voltage - higher the charge.

DD. a switching system and a diode is to be used in such a configuration, that it helps us in keeping the capacitor charged with a much higher voltage, as compared to initially put across its terminal by our source battery.

EE. switching system can use a reed switch and a magnet to adjust the switching time to obtain the so called sweet spot when with minimum input we are able to obtain an optimum (maximum ?) output and we also dont waste energy in terms of conversion to heat/light/sound etc.

FF. in this system, we don't need a spark gap at all.

GG. if we put a suitable transformer(s) in the system, which has a primary with a very very low inductance and very very low resitance, we might get something out, which is more than the input in every cycle of switching.

HH. we can have many such systems, running off, just with one source, and the total output of all the systems is higher than the input from the source.

II. some part of energy can be looped back to the source battery, which is exactly equal or slightly more than the input taken from the source battery, thus not kiling the dipole, so to say in mr. tito's own words.

JJ. we for the time being forget about the antenna, avremenko plug and other hints by mr. tito and concentrate on perfecting just one such system, as described.

KK. i may be proved right or wrong, but i do have some conviction that a clever arrangement of simple comonents can really deliver something out of nothing.

---- Mr. Teslonian

P.S.: Lets forget about all we have learnt in the traditional way at least once to check out the cleverness in the arrangement which mr. tito describes. Afterall he has dropped many hints. I appreciate his patience and admire his foresight.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 31, 2014, 11:04:34 PM

Quote from: weizisky on March 28, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Hey Mags

the C2 itself is a out put circuit, C2 will release a volume of electrons between the two C2's pole plates to produce ozone.
you also can place a L3 to feedsome energy back to the source, it's up to your need.

Feed 'some' energy back? L3 wound with L2? L3 remote receiver?

Ozone? Can I do something with this ozone below??

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on March 31, 2014, 11:51:03 PM

Quote from: From other Planet on March 30, 2014, 01:25:21 PM
Google, I want give u one more hint: the more aggression and hate u show towards others, the less they will want to help u building a working device... ;)

Hi, thanks for your valuable hint. But you made a very wrong assumption my dear. "Others" can only help others making a free energy device if they themselves have one.

I really dislike disinpho agents, fakers and self illusioned individuals who have no working devices but try to covertly give an otherwise impression to others. I cant help it. Take it or leave it. Youtube is full of such $h!t.

Lets not get misguided by false hopes generated by sickos, who dont even realise what they talk.

And I do belive in self learning through lot of reading and experimenting. If ever I found some wierd unexplained effects, I will put it up here on the forum to let others understand and explain, if they wish to, otherwise I do have access to senior scientists both in academia and engineering field.

So dont worry about me, just carry on with your good work.

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 01, 2014, 06:00:48 AM

mr Teslonian

it's useless to explain it to disinfo agents here >:( , just watch how stupid responses move your correct explanation back into history by flooding

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 01, 2014, 09:15:33 AM

thats the problem with nerds
accelerated education missed the subject in good conduct which a fifth grader have :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 01, 2014, 09:59:18 AM

Quote from: totoalas on April 01, 2014, 09:15:33 AM
thats the problem with nerds
accelerated education missed the subject in good conduct which a fifth grader have :'(

@ Mr totalas, We can ignore the negativity and pickup the hints by mr. tito. I feel he has something working, which is too simple and easy, thats wqhy probably he is feeling shy of sharing openly. I admire his work. Nowhere he is wrong in his hints, IMHO.

@ Mr forest, I propose a circuit soon, let the disinpho agents shoot it down, we will see if they succeed or we succeed. Future will tell only. I hope for the bestest results using mr. titos technology.

In case you are ready we can go ahead with the circuit i propose now to all freinds here.

----- Mr Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 01, 2014, 10:39:21 AM

Here is the proposed circuit attached. I invite everyone to analyse and revert.

---- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 01, 2014, 11:47:55 AM

Mr Teslonian
Thanks for the ckt
Have you seen Gyulas drawing of Titos circuit.....
switching by reed magnets using pc fan is what Titot used in his first hints
In a flyback instead of moving contacts arcing can be used having same results
Tito is also looking for the Moray gas filled tube which also can be utlized
so I suggest to make the basic circuit that you have make a working proto type and improve from there......
Details please so we can replicate and share our results good or bad
Agreed on Titos hints, Google Search engine cannot give all detailed info
cheers 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 01, 2014, 12:11:33 PM

Hello Mr Totalas, Thx for your response. mr tito mentioned to use exploded lightbulbs (car headlight bulb with 3 pins), if one element works and other is fused, thats what i gather from his hints. can it somehow be used to work as electron emitter (triode) by heating the ok element which heats the reflecter plate over it and positive HV potential applied to the neutral lead of fused element ? :-\ Only a guess. Its just a guess, never tried so not sure.

---- Mr Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 01, 2014, 12:16:57 PM

Moray tube had a mild radioactive salt packed in it (which he had collected from some mountains etc..) for ionization. That would not be recommended I guess for day to day use. hazardous !! Otherwisew old time smoke detectors had some radioactive like amerecium-241 or something..

Inside an ionization detector is a small amount (perhaps 1/5000th of a gram) of americium-241. The radioactive element americium has a half-life of 432 years, and is a good source of alpha particles.

Another way to talk about the amount of americium in the detector is to say that a typical detector contains 0.9 microcurie of americium-241. A curie is a unit of measure for nuclear material. If you are holding a curie of something in your hand, you are holding an amount of material that undergoes 37,000,000,000 nuclear transformations per second. Generally, that means that 37 billion atoms in the sample are decaying and emitting a particle of nuclear radiation (such as an alpha particle) per second. One gram of of the element radium generates approximately 1 curie of activity (Marie Curie, the woman after whom the curie is named, did much of her research using radium).

Alpha "rays" are actually high speed particles. Early researchers tended to refer to any form of energetic radiation as rays, and the term is still used. An alpha particle is made up of two protons and two neutrons, all held together by the same strong nuclear force that binds the nucleus of any atom. In fact, an alpha particle really is a nucleus - it's the same as the nucleus of a common atom of helium - but it doesn't have any electrons around it, and it's traveling very fast. Alpha particles are a type of ionizing radiation.

Another way to produce alpha particles is to "force" an atom to emit one. This is done by taking advantage of certain properties of various atoms. Here's an example. If we take some regular atoms of boron-10 (five protons, five neutrons), and expose this boron to a field of slow-moving neutrons, some of the boron atoms will absorb a neutron. When this happens, the outcome is not what you'd expect. The boron-10 does not just become stable boron-11. A likely possibility is that the "excited" boron atom will emit an alpha particle, becoming stable lithium in the process. There are other atoms that behave in this fashion.

Although alpha radiation travels very fast, it can easily be blocked or shielded. Alpha particles have an electric charge because of the protons. As they move through matter, they are constantly interacting with other charged particles, such as electrons. This process transfers the motion (energy) of the alpha particle to the electrons, actually knocking the electrons free in the process. This is known as ionization. These interactions cause the alpha particle to loose its energy and come to rest. Imagine a cue ball as it is traveling along on a pool table, running into other billiard balls and eventually stopping. With alpha particles, this happens in a very short distance, even in air. Alpha particles will loose all their energy in just a couple inches of travel in air. Once an alpha particle is stopped, it grabs the first two free electrons it can find, and becomes a plain old atom of helium.

Alpha radiation is not hazardous if the source is external to the body. Alpha particles don't penetrate deeply enough into the body to reach living tissue. If the source of the alpha radiation is internal to the body, then the ionization we mentioned earlier can damage living tissue. So, safety practices for handling alpha-emitting materials are centered on preventing inhalation or ingestion of the material.

---- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 01, 2014, 12:25:45 PM

Quote from: Mr. Teslonian on April 01, 2014, 12:11:33 PM
Hello Mr Totalas, Thx for your response. mr tito mentioned to use exploded lightbulbs (car headlight bulb with 3 pins), if one element works and other is fused, thats what i gather from his hints. can it somehow be used to work as electron emitter (triode) by heating the ok element which heats the reflecter plate over it and positive HV potential applied to the neutral lead of fused element ? :-\ Only a guess. Its just a guess, never tried so not sure.

---- Mr Teslonian

why not we start with off the shelf or junkyard parts ... Stefan used fluoroscent lamp posted by dj
8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 01, 2014, 12:37:32 PM

Quote from: totoalas on April 01, 2014, 12:25:45 PM
why not we start with off the shelf or junkyard parts ... Stefan used fluoroscent lamp posted by dj
8)

A link please.

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 01, 2014, 12:45:52 PM

Quote from: Mr. Teslonian on April 01, 2014, 12:37:32 PM
A link please.

--- Mr. Teslonian

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg386794/#msg386794 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg386794/#msg386794)
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg385998/#msg385998 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg385998/#msg385998)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 01, 2014, 01:27:00 PM

Mr T
Great to see you contributing your talents here and affirming the fact that Tito has given us enough hints to build a device.
Welcome aboard.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on April 01, 2014, 01:28:05 PM

@Mr. Teslonian
The circuit you showed above is very good, but Tesla had patented it long time ago, and the pics above posted by Mags is a similar device.

Weizi

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 01, 2014, 10:18:53 PM

Thanks Mr Smith for welcoming me on the forum. Ok I am enclosing a picture based on mr tito hint, current amplification is here.

----Mr Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 01, 2014, 10:50:21 PM

Mr tito is neither selfish, nor greedy. Had he been like that, he would have simply closed his account and vanished from the forum.

He didnt do that. He is here after so many insults and trying to give back the forum what he has learnt from here.

Also anyone with a sane mind will appreciate that, mr tito or anybody else will not give an easy slution to others on a platter. Nobody does that. Ask yourself, will you do that ? Now put yourself into mr. Titos shoes. Did Tesla do that ? Does any inventor reveals his real secrets in the patent ? No one does.

What do you think about Ozone patent ? Was it really about Ozone generation ? I dont think so. It was something else, which Tesla shrouded in Ozone patent.

We should be thankful that he still insisted on dropping the hints and patiently absorbed all the muck thrown at him from time to time.

Nothing more to say for now. More later.

----Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 01, 2014, 11:19:31 PM

Mr titos hint : Spark gaps waste energy. I dont use spark gaps. Its all about efficiency.

My interpretation : Don Smith was clever. He used gas discharge protection devices in series.

---- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 01, 2014, 11:43:16 PM

Mr. T,
Something else for your consideration on beefing up wattage, using magnets (something Tito has often mentioned, but I'm not sure for what purpose):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvleOLh42uw
He's got a bunch more on this channel as well using Neos.

I don't know if Tito refers to magnets to get a startup effect like Steven Mark does with one of his TPU demos, or whether he's using it to get the same effect IST got. I suspect it's the former, but thought I'd share.

Considering the field around a magnet as toroidal and vortex in nature, it may be that proper alignment of the magnet with an antenna coil will facilitate that coil's ability to draw in radiant energy in order to dump it into a cap.

As far as Tesla's ozone patent, what strikes me is the discharging capacitors in parallel before the spark gap. Is this a basic depiction of energy amplification?
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 02, 2014, 01:08:49 AM

Thanks Mr Smith for the link. I will watch all before I can make a comment on what MrIST is tryin to prove/demonstrate. Kindly bear with me.

---- Mr. Teslonian

We can break the secret by combining various unconventional technologies.Most of them are on this forum and youtube. We will hace to b patient and carefully record everything on this thread once again so that we can collect and re join the scattered pices of the jigsaw puzzle. I hope for the best.

Dont worry about naysayers, they will do their job, we will do ours. We are not here to prove to them if it works or not. They may try themselves. Excuse me naysayers, no offense please.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 02, 2014, 06:34:19 AM

Friends,

Please have alook at my posts #s 560, 561 and 562 on the following thread. Very impotant hints by mr. Tito. We need to decode them.

He suggests the following :

Antenna ----> Many ordinary transformers -----> Inverter (1000 watts)

http://www.overunity.com/5772/teslas-magnifying-transmitter-amplify-electricity/new/#new

---- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 02, 2014, 07:46:33 AM

Mr Forest, I am quoting below from you and mr tito. Shall be grateful if you can in simple words explain why there are huge current spikes with the extra coil ??

I believe if extra coil is used in a reciever, it will still give the same current spike based on displacement current you explained.

Can you imagine and post a simple schematic to help us proceed further ?

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solid state devices / Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)

« on: February 20, 2010, 12:40:41 AM »Quote from: forest on February 19, 2010, 08:19:47 AM

MR FOREST :

Excess coil or extra coil in Tesla magnifying transmitter produced extremely huge voltage when oscillating freely. It is the analogous of whip or swing. Now we call it antenna.The solution is clear ! however essential part is missing.Tito is using extra coil to generate extreme voltage from small power source, but he found a way to use it as a pump - sucking displacement current from ground or air and generating current spikes. Apparently it is not easy because we are misled by current knowledge about power in antenna being not real.Correct - it is reactive most of the time, but I'm sure there are ways to make it dissipate power into envinronment.Read Colorado Notes - Tesla suddenly found that sparks from elevated capacitance of his magnifying transmitter can reach thousands of amperes.That was surprise.

MR TITO REPLIES :

@forestYES! bingo you are absolutely correct with this quote!@barof course the many the extra the many the gain but be very careful if you are using thick wires with caps cause it will make you fried and crunchy and sometimes, a sudden and unexpected lightning is produced in the near of you so be very careful sir! better wear many aluminum with magnets insulated to you to save you from this funny but dangerous experiment Bye friends AND God bless and BE VERY CAREFUL CAUSE YOU WILL NOW PLAYING WITH LIGHTNING OK

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 02, 2014, 08:11:23 AM

Friends, in the following quote from mr tito everything is clearmand simple : This is the first method he used for excess energy. Second methos is Antenna method and is more complex one. I propose focussing on this one only initially.

MR TITO :

@all as what i have told you before there are two method. i have given you the main ingredient of the first method of my discovery and that is the bigger version, now the smaller version used by SM, hubbard, moray, smith, hendershot, and tesla etc. is mine Ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!

now again start become mad at me again sorrynow catch if you can catch

make a deep research and experiment on these:
a) zener - to regulate battery loopback charging voltage ?
b) resistor - to minimise usage of current from source battery ?
c) carbon - for contact points ?
d) computer fan motor - for make and break ?
e) battery - source
f) coil - high induction coil and pickup coils ?
g) caps not a big deal ok
h) vibration and sounds plus the speed of light - very high speed make break / cap shorting in bifi coil to create hude momentary magnetic flux, which are picked by secondary as high current ?

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This method uses battery as source and doesnt use Antenna and Earthing. This keeps the battary charged and gives input for inverter also with sufficient current to get 1kw of power from inverter.

The other method involves use of three different frequencies via antenna(s) which are fed to the TPU and drives the TPU in the Overunity mode.

At least thats how I see it happening.

We may ignore the TPU Antenna thing for now and focus on the first method.

----Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 02, 2014, 08:25:41 AM

Great stuff Mr. T
Just another tidbit to add -- Perhaps a year ago, Tito advised putting a simple parallel wound bifilar coil perpendicularly across and around another coil to stimulate the ringing effect. I think Magluvin and I tried this, and in my case, by pulsing the bifi coil, I was able to get a ringing down effect in the larger coil, but that was about it. Looking back, I realize that wasn't the whole picture. I needed a better coil config in the secondary. However, the perpendicular coil principle might be worth filing away for down the road.

The way I have seen this apparatus for some time is in terms of the following principles:
Antenna - Caps - Diodes - Possible Joule Thief (kicks) - Series Wound Bifilar Coils arranged in series, discharging into one another to amplify voltage. The question at this point is how to take power from this setup without damping the oscillations or killing the dipole. I think the TMT points us in the right direction, and perhaps Forest's remarks are good food for thought on this. :)

Here's a hint that may help us with the caps and diodes arrangement: look at what Synchro1 has done with his quadfilar setup. I think it gives us some indications on how to arrange caps and diodes. He also goes by Allen Burgess over on EF and another name on Youtube (linked in his posts).

Off to work...
Good day everyone!
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 02, 2014, 09:20:09 AM

as erfinder said in energy science f
RECOVER THE RECOVERED ENERGY BACK TO THE PRIMARY COIL TO HSVE THE DOUBKE KICK
A FLYBACK OR IGNITION COIL FOR THE RECOVERY PATH

GOOD IDEA ON SHARING RESULTS GOOD AND BAD
NAYBE WE CAN PUT A SUMMARY AND LOOK BACK ONCE AGAIN
PREVIOUS POSTS JUST STARTED IT

somebody can copy paste if time allows them

Mine using sg ignition coil relay spark gap to e core produced 340 v open v ac but output limited only to 40 w led bulbs

Others can share here also

cheers

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 02, 2014, 10:56:37 AM

THE ORIGINAL SECRET OF MR TITO IS HERE, NOW WE NEED TO JUST CONFIGURE HOW HE ARRANGED 3 COILS IN PARALLEL AND 3 COLLECTOR COILS PERPENDICULAR TO THEM.

HE WAS VERY MUCH TALKING ABOUT FINDING THE TPU SECRET WHEN HE SAID THE ABOVE WHILE HE JOINED THE FORUM IN 2008.

HE ARRANGED THE 3 PRIMARY IN PARALLEL TO THE "KICKING COIL" AND 3 SECONDARY COLLECTOR COILS PERPENDICULAR TO THESE 3 NEW COILS.

IT MUST BE IN THE TPU WAY. AT LEAST MY COMMON SENSE SAYS THAT.

---- Mr. Teslonian.

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Mr. Tito Said :

well, your right there BUT there is still the best oneactually this is my first discovery, you try to read my first post in this forum.http://www.overunity.com/5975/stefan-and-newman-motor/0they/ are not listening to me year 2008 ( and thats the secret)

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 02, 2014, 11:04:39 AM

MOST IMPORTANT :

Point No. 1. November 27, 2008, 10:10:01 AM

hi mr. stefan my name is Tito L. Oracion i discover the secret of sm, "its the igniter patent of nikola tesla" please try to review it.
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Point No. 2. December 01, 2008, 11:35:51 AM

Sir, please bear with my english, i`m not used to speak for it, here is what i have done: just make a little modification ofcourse, i`ve made three parallel coil to the one that become high voltage and put a 3 collector perpendicular to that high voltage and thats it just like a tranformer, it gives unlimited energy and it is very controllable, and by dumping the one collector to the capacitor it becomes self powered, just a matter of on and off relay or reed relay, dont forget to use zener diode at least 3v.be very carefull, you can accidentally make an uncontrollable voltage that look like a tesla coil.its fun but very dangerous. try to make coil combination. there is a little secret here so you just try to discover it ,its very fun but dont forget the danger!!!!!!!!I love everybody so be carefull anyone."if power comes from coil then of course you can power everything just it depends on the design"do you know that we can also make an efficient electrolysis from this, belive me sir just make a try!!!!!! Thank you,Tito L. Oracion (Philippines)

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Point No. 3. December 02, 2008, 10:44:28 AM

I appologize sir.so sorry.i've read the interview of sm and he says "kick is the secret"in the first place how to produce kicks? and i've searched the patent of nikola tesla, igniter patent gives all the answer.using low voltage to high or unlimitted voltage is being produce.just consider it a little sir.i just used the basic transformer computation to get the coil size i want.so theres no really secret here. don't worry i will not post anything anymore.thank youtito

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And thats it, nothing beyond that. Rest all created only confusion.

----- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 02, 2014, 11:21:45 AM

Mr Tito as per his own admission discovered another secret between 2 am to 3 am standard Philipines time on Dec 9 2009, while surfing on threads here.

More later. ( Oh I am feeling like Sherlock Homes now ;D ) Its time consuming but not impossible to find what he discovered.

---- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 02, 2014, 12:02:09 PM

Reply #53 on: December 10, 2009, 04:51:09 AM »QuoteQuote from: gyulasun on December 09, 2009, 12:58:23 PM

Gyulason : Hi Tito,Coax (cable) is used mainly for FEEDING power to antennas. However there are certain antenna types that are constructed from coax cables instead of wires (or rods or pipes). Such coax-made antennas are nicknamed as Bazooka by ham radio operators. rgds, Gyula

Mr Tito : Thanks Gyula! you're revealing secrets ha

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And the link is here :

http://www.overunity.com/7832/patents-involving-antenna-and-aerials-mainly-for-transmitting/#.Uzwyn31X7MI

----- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 02, 2014, 12:08:31 PM

Or maybe this one :

Replace the signal generator or whatever you have there feeding your resonant circuit with a quenched spark gap. The spark gap will automatically know when it is time to put energy into the system. You will need a charged capacitor on the power supply side of the circuit. Charge her way up there and the cell will see alot more voltage. Semiconductors suck. You want a superconductor in that field. Feedback a dc blowout coil to clear the plasma in the spark gap. MOD DC blowout coils are used in highvoltage dc circuit breakers. Otherwise the current they are trying to interrupt is still conveyed through the plasma in the gap. Tesla located his spark gap so that the magnetic field produced by his inductors would blow out or quench the gap exactly when it needed to be.

----- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 02, 2014, 12:34:19 PM

http://www.overunity.com/8141/steven-marks-secret/330/ dated Dec 9 2009

Please carefully read comments by magluvin, forest, sparks and wattsup on this page about Tesla Ozone patent mod.

After this date you will find that Mr tito mentioned ozone patent a lot and making a modification in that to get overunity effects.

----- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 02, 2014, 03:36:25 PM

However many devices you can imagine and find apparent principles looking very different one to another there is really one secret about all and searching for the real proof should be the major topic for all science. Scientists nowadays are wasting time working for profit only. The solving problems way has not been choosen yet, that's the reason for no free energy around. If you cure cancer there will be no profit for any other so called "solutions", nor so many specialized doctors, right ?
If everybody works for profit there is always somebody unlucky having much less then needed for life, because the total amount of coins is limited like the total amount of resources. Everybody knows natural gas, oil, coal is limited and may be over in the next century - yet, do you see huge efforts to find solution for this ? Less then 50 years remain...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 02, 2014, 03:45:44 PM

You must divide all patents into two areas the the combination is the solution. One using capacitor , one using coils, one resonant , one symmetrical.The limit imho is some billions watts per man on Earth but I'm surely wrong and that would be disaster. How could God give you such power ?
You got it right, one billion watts in one pico second is nothing , except when you can repeat it....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 02, 2014, 09:40:35 PM

Mr titos country timing is exactly 6 hours ahead of this sites timing. So if "the moment of truth dicovery" was between 2-3 am on Dec 9 2009 in mr titos country, it should be between 8-9 pm on Dec 8 2009 on this sites timing. What was Mr. Tito reading on the site at that time ?

But there is a condition attached to it. This holds true only if he discovered the TRUTH on this site and not while experimenting and not on another site.

---- Mr. Teslonian

Whether we go by this sites timing or we go by mr titos country timing. Mr tito was very much here and on this page, when he discovered a secret :

http://www.overunity.com/8141/steven-marks-secret/315/#.Uzy-tH1X7MI

Please go through all videos (zero fossil fuel's), comments by sparks and others. Might help decode part of the puzzle.

We need it fast, we dont need no nuclear power plants, we dont need no oil and gas. We dont need Chernobyls and Fukushimas in our countries. Think ! What use money or fame will be if we are exposed to highly radioactive poison !!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 03, 2014, 12:57:08 AM

You already solved first clue.

Tito : "[size=78%]all we need is to make a strong moving electrons then everything is gain. [/size][size=78%][size=78%] "[/size]
[size=78%]
[/size]

[size=78%]I don't believe it is still secret , in fact I'm sure it is common engineering task to build such devices, everything can be computed, predicted, solved, extremes preserved - it is ready for mass production for almost 100 years ! However there is strong opposition to keep it secret and I'm not sure why... maybe there is more harsh then good in uncovering it ? If I correctly decipher his statements, Tesla was first convinced that tapping ambient energy in place is not as good solution as just using already established conversion like waterfalls, then in 1931 he changed his mind. Why ? [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 03, 2014, 04:50:00 AM

Quote from: forest on April 03, 2014, 12:57:08 AM
You already solved first clue.

Tito : "[size=78%]all we need is to make a strong moving electrons then everything is gain. [/size][size=78%][size=78%] "[/size]
[size=78%]
[/size]

[size=78%]I don't believe it is still secret , in fact I'm sure it is common engineering task to build such devices, everything can be computed, predicted, solved, extremes preserved - it is ready for mass production for almost 100 years ! However there is strong opposition to keep it secret and I'm not sure why... maybe there is more harsh then good in uncovering it ? If I correctly decipher his statements, Tesla was first convinced that tapping ambient energy in place is not as good solution as just using already established conversion like waterfalls, then in 1931 he changed his mind. Why ? [/size]

Mr. Forest, you have asked a question and it would be highly advisable if you could yourself clarify a bit about what exactly you want to express. As far as I know Pierce Arrow happened in 1931. Tesla showed to the world that he had the technology but did not reveal it to the world.

Tesla was a human being afterall and wasnt immune to frustration of the speed of inventions and inability of the world to follow his philiosophy of wireless power distribution.

There was a child in Tesla even in advancing age who derived pleasure in hiding his secrets. Its true with most of humans.

However we really dont need Chernobyls and Fukushimas, sorry for repeating. If oxygen, wind, water and sunlight is not controlled by large industrial conglomerates, so be electricity.

Why we should be a slave to working for paying our large power and gas bills. Who gains, we dont. The common man is a loser in the end. The world order has been created such that 1 % of the world population controls 99% of money and natural resources.

God made us all equal. Than why this inequality ?

I need my own free power from ambient and am all for it. I think everyone feels the same, thats why we have joined this overunity dot com forum. My purpose is very clear. I want free electricity to run my house and to replace my existing car engine with a motor and run it with free electricity. Its my dream and everybodys dream.

We will work towards that as a group. I am sure if free energy exists, we will succeed in the end. Amen !

---- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 03, 2014, 07:37:50 AM

Wow !!! I must thank Mr tito now. Thank you very much Mr tito. I love you soooo much. I discovered how to generate multiple kicks from just one kick by using only one module. The series parallel technique of yours is lovely my dear mr tito. I reaaly admire your creativity and intelligence. 2nd part of the puzzle solved now. I can make many modules and make unlimited kicks from one source now. And it doesnt discharge the battery. HeeeeHaaaa.

Chidi Midi Chidi Midi Dhoom Dhadaka, Hoooo Haaaa, Hoooo Haaaa !!!

3 Cheers for Mr Tito !!!

Where is my coffee and cigarette man ?

---- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 03, 2014, 08:48:57 AM

you see ? I bet nobody understood your statement. We are so divided and lost ability to comprehend one another. I hope I'm wrong but just let's wait for other people watching this thread for comments about your re-discovery...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 03, 2014, 10:11:21 AM

Friends, to see things from mr titos eyes, you will have to read all his posts in all the threads on this website. There is just no short cut here. He has actually jumbled up all the hints from his different devices. You will have to spend time, take notes and only then you will be able to solve the jigsaw puzzle. Its time consuming, hardwork and lot of threads to read. But without that there is just no possibility of anyone getting what he is upto. I have done that putting all other work aside to see some light at the end of the tunnel.

Thank you mr tito.

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wistiti on April 03, 2014, 10:36:39 AM

Ok so did someone have alredy put all the message of tito in one file (like pdf) and want to share it with evryone or evrybody have to do it by their own?
Thank you in advance! :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 03, 2014, 10:44:43 AM

Ive done that Mr T from post 1 till the end thats why I gave Gyulas drawing of Titos idea a try and it work only in another way
Yesterday you revive titos circuit 1 and attached different oscillator switch mods of erfinder Groundloop and watts up
Very interesting indeed
now we can start even without a loop back first using batteries/ solar and produce lighting
I want my project off the grid as youve discovered the second part of multiple kicks
we can try that if its ok for you to share
My flux capacitor experiment using eric dollard works with an ordinary relay that very noisy and annoying but the proof of concept works
cheers
totoalas 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 03, 2014, 10:49:14 AM

I have handwritten notes but you wont read my handwriting as its like a fly drenched in ink walking on a piece of paper. ;D .

I may type it out and put it on here once I am through with the entire thing once again to amke sure, I didnt miss something. I may take some time.

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wistiti on April 03, 2014, 11:55:50 AM

Take your time! :)
Thank you again!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 03, 2014, 12:01:53 PM

Quote from: Mr. Teslonian on April 03, 2014, 10:49:14 AM
I have handwritten notes but you wont read my handwriting as its like a fly drenched in ink walking on a piece of paper. ;D .

I may type it out and put it on here once I am through with the entire thing once again to amke sure, I didnt miss something. I may take some time.

--- Mr. Teslonian

SCAN IT OR TAKE PICTURE IT SURE WILL BE DECIPHERED LOL
aS YOU SAY ONE AT ATIME THANKS 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 03, 2014, 12:49:39 PM

I only wish Mr tito comes here and tells us everything, I have written 300 pages and another 100 to go. Wait until I finish and get it typed and pdf and upload. Please bear with me.

---- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 03, 2014, 01:35:10 PM

:) :) :) I have just two notebooks written, probably less then 300 pages, I'm slow - it took me few years.... :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 03, 2014, 01:43:24 PM

Forest, I did it in past one week. Want to finish the game started by
Mr tito and move on.

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 03, 2014, 03:35:46 PM

Hey guys this is a nice team.
Congrats to all of you for your passion in getting knowledge. I really try hard to follow you due to slow reading in English.

I didn't read Tito's topic yet but your interest triggers me to do it.
I read what you write about multiple kicks and I wonder if you are talking about this. http://www.overunity.com/14197/sstc-changing-frequency-issue/15/#.Uz2zApXNvrc

If this is what you call multiple kick and you like any help to do it I would be happy to share and contribute either in or off the grid as you said.
I love experimenting in a point that many nights I see coils in my sleep. I understand now that I am not alone course this happens also to you...and this is a relief:D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 03, 2014, 05:19:21 PM

Thats great
a 1000 notes with substance is worth waiting than nothing or no direction at all
Tito sure is coming back coz this is his thread his baby his bookstore , and hang out .......
coil coil coil and another coil acting as capacitor as he always say the bigger the more output you desire
Running his refrigerator and washing machine lol 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 03, 2014, 05:33:34 PM

Quote from: Jeg on April 03, 2014, 03:35:46 PM
Hey guys this is a nice team.
Congrats to all of you for your passion in getting knowledge. I really try hard to follow you due to slow reading in English.

I didn't read Tito's topic yet but your interest triggers me to do it.
I read what you write about multiple kicks and I wonder if you are talking about this. http://www.overunity.com/14197/sstc-changing-frequency-issue/15/#.Uz2zApXNvrc (http://www.overunity.com/14197/sstc-changing-frequency-issue/15/#.Uz2zApXNvrc)

If this is what you call multiple kick and you like any help to do it I would be happy to share and contribute either in or off the grid as you said.
I love experimenting in a point that many nights I see coils in my sleep. I understand now that I am not alone course this happens also to you...and this is a relief:D

Hi jeg welcome aboard
nice thread you started in ur last post you asked for a mazilli so here it is ULTIMATE MAZILLI CIRCUIT V. 1 BY SANJEV21 uploaded 29 Mar 2014
Some sxperimenters like Nickz and geofusion are using this also so maybe this can be used also as you understand it more with ur experiments
thanks 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 03, 2014, 07:43:37 PM

Some points to note :

1. Forget about the source for now. We can use a battery as a stable source.
2. What is important is the overunity transformer design of Mr tito.

---- Mr. Teslonian.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 03, 2014, 07:55:26 PM

Hi Mr T
is gyulas ckt of Tito are u treferreing to 8) or another mod

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 03, 2014, 11:04:20 PM

No

@ Mr Bob Smith, can you kindly explain how current multiples in a TPU circuit ?

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 12:16:46 AM

Something really annoying. >:(
Some free energy websites have removed some pages, which deal with the real secrets.

---Mr Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 12:41:03 AM

I respect Mr tito a lot and have no intention of discouraging Mr Mag.... !

But it so happened many times, I noticed that Mr. Mag.... kept on wrongly interpreting mr titos hints, kept on posting his coils windings pictures and kept on cajoling mr tito to confirm, but mr tito didnt.

I am sorry Mr tito and Mr mag... but thats the way it is, the hard way, but truth.

But then again, no one will present his brain to you on a platter to steal his ideas.

I seek pardon from both of you but its a truth. Sorry again Mr tito and mr mag..... :-[

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 04, 2014, 01:15:45 AM

Quote from: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 12:16:46 AM
Something really annoying. >:(
Some free energy websites have removed some pages, which deal with the real secrets.

---Mr Teslonian

Would be nice if you post exact links...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 01:49:55 AM

Quote from: forest on April 04, 2014, 01:15:45 AM

Would be nice if you post exact links...

Mr Forest,

Please google "rexresearch, moray2, morayrer"

Just in case you find this page or some info copied on any other site from this page, can you please upload here as a pdf or link.

Waiting for your feedback. Many thanks in advance.

---- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 04, 2014, 02:42:12 AM

Quote from: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 01:49:55 AM
Mr Forest,

Please google "rexresearch, moray2, morayrer"

Just in case you find this page or some info copied on any other site from this page, can you please upload here as a pdf or link.

Waiting for your feedback. Many thanks in advance.

---- Mr. Teslonian

Again I think you are not clear enough, but whatever... IF you are looking for Thomas Henry Moray book then on the page you requested are only excerpts ...but it may be important if it from the original first edition... ? Ah ,I see... maybe you need pictures/schematic from that page ?
I have suspicion that somebody bought the rights for this book and it was taken out of internet ? There are many so called "free energy gurus", in fact doing the mole work...but I understand them after 15 years of being involved in research

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 04, 2014, 02:43:38 AM

Search who is the most interested in Moray method (which is Tesla method using custom made semiconductor) and you find the answer ???

Fortunately there are copies like here : http://blog.lege.net/Free_Energy/Thomas_Henry_Moray__Sea_Of_Energy/morayrer.htm

Now if you could explain what is so important about it ,in simple words ? The main problem in all research is that every inventor found own way to control device like Moray his valve ...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 04, 2014, 02:58:27 AM

no permission

access on rex researh moray
try to contact edmorbus in youtube i think he has a lot of fe compilation 8)

or better still contact tito direct he has contact in this thread

just talked to him 3 months ago just to say thank you

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 03:49:17 AM

Mr Forest, I was referring to http://www.rexresearch.com/moray2/morayrer.htm

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /moray2/morayrer.htm on this server.Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 04, 2014, 05:01:40 AM

Quote from: totoalas on April 04, 2014, 02:58:27 AM
no permission

access on rex researh moray
try to contact edmorbus in youtube i think he has a lot of fe compilation 8)

or better still contact tito direct he has contact in this thread

just talked to him 3 months ago just to say thank you

Do u evn knw who is tito oracion. Is it a he or a 19 year old she. Lol. Google Noreen Vitug. A small kido making a fool of ye guys with her bro or dad or ..... and ye guys serious ? First go and verify the source then believe in the source. Huh.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 04, 2014, 05:22:00 AM

hes a bro
how to verify he know a lot of what hes posting
thats for sure 8)
call his mobile no plus 63 and his no for idd code

welcone back google thats you for sure

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 04, 2014, 06:37:50 AM

Quote from: Google on April 04, 2014, 05:01:40 AM
Do u evn knw who is tito oracion. Is it a he or a 19 year old she. Lol. Google Noreen Vitug. A small kido making a fool of ye guys with her bro or dad or ..... and ye guys serious ? First go and verify the source then believe in the source. Huh.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
ohhhhhhhhhh, where did you get my picture? :D
Wow, i'm so cute and really beautiful isn't it. ;D

well, i can see that lady in a computer center where i always rent. lol hhahhahahahahhahahahahahahahhahaaha lol

Pareng toto anong palagay sakin nito?. easy to get? hahahhahhahahhahhahhahhahhaahha ;D

and do you think i'm really tito, you try to find tito oracion in the philippines, your lucky if you can go home again. hahahahahhahhahahhahah lol :D ;D ;D And that's the way your thinking must be ok. 8) what a low level genius thinker :D :D :D :D :D

find some more, your really a genius guy. i salute you. ??? ??? ??? ??? bwa hahahahhahahhahahhahahhahahahahhehehehhiiiiiii lol ;D

sorry everyone i was actually lazy writing here. but this google really makes me laugh and i can't control my hand to post. :D

@diljalay
buddy, i'm sorry i cannot go here always anymore. :( :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 04, 2014, 06:48:49 AM

otit hahahahah pogay

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 04, 2014, 07:02:14 AM

Ok! ok! ok!

Why tesla said that alternating current is so efficient than direct current. :)

efficient because its like you are just using its fumes to make a big explotion isn't it ladies and gentlemen?

its like in a carburetor, try to imagine why its so efficient though you are using a gazoline.

by a mixture of air making it so very efficient isn't it. really simple. ;) [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on April 04, 2014, 07:10:31 AM

Thanks for the continuation...
Do you mean this sir Tito?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 07:20:33 AM

Welcome back Tito Sir,

I am a fan of yours and thrilled to see you back with a bang. i have have been reading all posts by you and made a compilation. You are a great inspiration to all of us here except a few.

Sir, kindly continue with your informative posts.

My best wishes and regards

---Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 08:24:38 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 17, 2013, 07:35:35 AM

Thanks bud. :) ;)

sounds like taste bud. :P ;D ;)

Hi everyone:

let say for example I collected a stainless steel, alluminum, tin, copper, zinc then by the use of a grinder, i pulvorice them all mix them together.

then i have two option to combine them ist by epoxy, second i can super heat them using acetylene and oxygen in a mold

now the resulted material should be producing a little heat cause they are different metal joint together, then before i use it i introduce 2kv in it.

then i include it in a circuit capable of producing high voltage. what do you think is the result? ::)

Good News: Tom bearden got it in 30 years
Bad News: because of his writings, all of it becomes a big hint for me and i got it in 5 years. ;D
Thanks to Tom bearden for his writings. :) ;)

The secret is cha and discha don't kill the dimple ;D
its really just actually a matter of common chachacha. ;D ;D ;D

By this method you can make all the output in the inverter as free. 8)

That's it ;)

Merry Christmas everyone and thanks to all help in the Philippines

Noicarotit ;D ;D ;D

Hello Sir tito,

By this method you made the degenerative semiconductor. Chacha and Discha (connect and disconnect). Dont kill the dimple (Dipole).

Can you kindly tell us about your success here in running the inverter indirectly from the source battery using a condenser in betwen to transfer only the Voltage, without using any current ??

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 04, 2014, 08:35:57 AM

Quote from: Google on April 04, 2014, 05:01:40 AM
Do u evn knw who is tito oracion. Is it a he or a 19 year old she. Lol. Google Noreen Vitug. A small kido making a fool of ye guys with her bro or dad or ..... and ye guys serious ? First go and verify the source then believe in the source. Huh.

Bah shut up already.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 08:44:51 AM

Quote from: forest on November 25, 2013, 11:26:34 AM
a little tip if Tito woudn't mind ::) .... if you got capacitor charged to 15V and connect to the car battery there is very little flow of current, and if you have a diode there is no flow and if you got that capacitor charged even more and even if load is connected then you got ou....

Mr Forest,
Mind posting a simple schematic of this please.
Thanks.

--- Mr Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 08:54:38 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 29, 2013, 10:30:34 PM
ok here!

What can you do to remove the noise in the spark gap,
but the whole strength is still there
and from that point making the energy in the spark gap to be included in the longitudinal wave.
that resulted in a tremendous strong field. :) 8)

otits

Sir Tito,
Are you hinting at using a high voltage diode / zener in series with a caudaceous coil to produce longitudinal magnetic field ?

Sorry I have too many questions.

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 09:14:47 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 09, 2013, 12:51:03 AM

Here is your BIG CLUE: THE ELECTRICITY IS DUAL IN NATURE ;) 8)

YOU SHOULD GOT IT!!! >:( ;D

MERRY NEW YEAR :D :D :D

ETITS L. NOICARO ;D

Sir tito,

One form doesnt multiply and there are losses, while the other form can be useds like a laser.

Sir you are super intelligent, a genius I must say.

Thanks very much for the tip.

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on April 04, 2014, 09:25:23 AM

Quote from: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 03:49:17 AM
Mr Forest, I was referring to http://www.rexresearch.com/moray2/morayrer.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/moray2/morayrer.htm)

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /moray2/morayrer.htm on this server.Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request

--- Mr. Teslonian

Hi Mr. Teslonian,

I also find it strange to close that link and I tried to use wayback machine which opened it, see here the link:
http://web.archive.org/web/20140208020341/http://rexresearch.com/moray2/morayrer.htm

Now that I have seen the content of the link, it includes excerpts from Thomas H Moray book the Sea of Energy on his radiant energy receiver.

Keep up the good "detective" work! 8)

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 09:31:08 AM

Quote from: Overschuss on January 22, 2014, 01:13:25 AM

No, not yet.
But after some basic experiments i can definitely say, that this principle is working.
It's simple, just build, let's say, 12 Pancake-Coils with bi-filar Windings (= Capacitors).
Connect 6 Coil-Caps in Parallel (= one Set, so you have more Capacitance - and bigger Kicks).

Now place the Pancake-Coils in a (better pulsed or not, dunno) Electrostatic DC HV-Field, then discharge one of the 2 Sets with several short Impulses through a step-down Trafo (with the right Resonance-Freq.).

(You can take, for instance, a Joule-Thief as HV-Source)
Afterwards discharge the other Set. In the meantime the previous Set can re-charge again. And so on...
That's it.

What really annoys me, is, that the guys who have figured this out a long time ago, then fell silent.

@ Cadman

I've cracked this nut in roughly 2 Weeks. Not soo bad, actually, i think.
And Leely is right, please be so kind and post your results.
So that we can work together and improve this Thing.

________________________________________________________

Well, what can i say, now i believe you absorb one technique.
when you said this statement "[size=78%]In the meantime the previous Set can re-charge again.[/size][size=78%]"[/size]

Sorry buddy, i fell silent because i felt so disappointed when i see someone discover good things and make tongue to me like this
That's why i decided not to share anymore and i just cross here just to tell my reason.

Now its up to you if you will post all you can discover and they make tongue to you then you will feel what i felt.

Any way congratulation to whatever you've got.
but here is the best tip that you should know: Still the antenna style technique is the best method or the moray style cause it can last up to 30 or more years of service to us.

so long fell, be safe
God bless.

toits

Nice disclosure by Overschuss :), but showiung tounge to the Professor is bad, once you have discovered the secret. Very bad. >:(

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 09:34:25 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on April 04, 2014, 09:25:23 AM
Hi Mr. Teslonian,

I also find it strange to close that link and I tried to use wayback machine which opened it, see here the link:
http://web.archive.org/web/20140208020341/http://rexresearch.com/moray2/morayrer.htm

Now that I have seen the content of the link, it includes excerpts from Thomas H Moray book the Sea of Energy on his radiant energy receiver.

Keep up the good "detective" work! 8)

Gyula

Thanks for the link Gyula ! You are sweet.

Professor has taught us that "Backtracking" is the best technique, I am a student and following the Professor's footsteps but backwards.

--- Mr Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 04, 2014, 10:08:14 AM

Well, I posted COMPLETE link with pictures http://blog.lege.net/Free_Energy/Thomas_Henry_Moray__Sea_Of_Energy/morayrer.htm ,but you dismissed it >:( by not answering my question : what is so important on this page ?
Anyway, I have my way, in fact I have plenty but people cannot let me finish them >:( Tito is lucky to be able to make it, it's hard to build something from scrap yard parts

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 10:29:14 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 11, 2014, 08:19:29 AM
Kung type mo ang pag gamit ng magnet, well, may nabibiling magnetic tape subukan mo baka mas may effect. ;) 8)

Dow worry my scandal will coming very soon. ;D :o :o :o

Pag nasa bingit ka ng kamatayan wag kang TARANTADO baka ma RIP karen ;D ;D :o :o

its okay to panic but don't panic. ;D :o :-\ >:( :-[

TARAN ;D

Professor tito ! eagerly awaiting to watch your scandal on youtube. :)

--- mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 04, 2014, 10:33:39 AM

Quote from: forest on April 04, 2014, 10:08:14 AM
Well, I posted COMPLETE link with pictures http://blog.lege.net/Free_Energy/Thomas_Henry_Moray__Sea_Of_Energy/morayrer.htm ,but you dismissed it >:( by not answering my question : what is so important on this page ?
Anyway, I have my way, in fact I have plenty but people cannot let me finish them >:( Tito is lucky to be able to make it, it's hard to build something from scrap yard parts

Forest, I never dismissed it. Actually Professor Tito mentioned that link in one of his posts and I didnt find the link working. I am yet to read the link you and Gyula have posted.

Once I read it, my feedback will be on the thread ASAP. I am not interested in moray's tube actually. I wanted to study the rest of the circuit.

--- Mr Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 04, 2014, 12:45:57 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 04, 2014, 06:37:50 AM

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
ohhhhhhhhhh, where did you get my picture? :D
Wow, i'm so cute and really beautiful isn't it. ;D

well, i can see that lady in a computer center where i always rent. lol hhahhahahahahhahahahahahahahhahaaha lol

Pareng toto anong palagay sakin nito?. easy to get? hahahhahhahahhahhahhahhahhaahha ;D

and do you think i'm really tito, you try to find tito oracion in the philippines, your lucky if you can go home again. hahahahahhahhahahhahah lol :D ;D ;D And that's the way your thinking must be ok. 8) what a low level genius thinker :D :D :D :D :D

find some more, your really a genius guy. i salute you. ??? ??? ??? ??? bwa hahahahhahahhahahhahahhahahahahhehehehhiiiiiii lol ;D

sorry everyone i was actually lazy writing here. but this google really makes me laugh and i can't control my hand to post. :D

@diljalay
buddy, i'm sorry i cannot go here always anymore. :( :-*

Ha ha ha ha !!! what a big joke. An inventor from Phillipines who claims to have replicated Teslas work needs to go to cybercafe to write the posts. Hahahahahaha !!!!!!!!

And he says if I go to Phillipines to look for Tito Oracion, I cant come back alive. Hahahaha !!!!

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on April 04, 2014, 02:05:37 PM

Quote from: forest on April 04, 2014, 10:08:14 AM
Anyway, I have my way, in fact I have plenty but people cannot let me finish them >:( Tito is lucky to be able to make it, it's hard to build something from scrap yard parts

It's so sad to hear that. I read lot of your posts, I totally believe you are able to build a OU device in your own way. only because lack of components? I think that do not cost much money.

best

WEIZI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 04, 2014, 02:31:30 PM

Weizi ! F____ & Ma_____ are birds, trying to catch worms of free-energy from a pond of Tito's piss. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Excuse me for the analogy but thats the reality. F______ is Mr know-all, M_______ doesnt himself know what he wants to achieve from his coils and caps. He is utterly confused and nonsensical.

Over the past 5 years these two people have filled a lot of air in the soap-bubble called Tito.

They are actually responsible for confusion created by Tito on this thread.

Tito is a real b@$t@rd having fun being the PIED-PIEPER. 8) 8) These two pack rats have carried along more rats to follow Tito to carry on his bullcrap for years. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Tito claims that his great grand fathers were inventors, but their are no patents in any of the Oracions names. Nill, nada, zero. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Tito claims he has 12 overunity working devices powering his washing machine and fridge. What a big bullcrap and people believe him. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Do you guys come to this thread after leaving your brains behind, in your freezers ? Is it ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Is there anything called logic and judgement in your life or you have totally lost it ? ;) ;) :D :D ;D ;D

This bugger came here in 2008 begging people to listen to him :

November 27, 2008, 10:10:01 AM »
hi mr. stefan

my name is Tito L. Oracion
i discover the secret of sm, "its the igniter patent of nikola tesla"
incase you want to contact me here is my e_add: titoracionpogi@yahoo.com
Tito L. Oracion (Philippines)
Cell No. :0921-5558080 or 0928-4485522

please try to review it.

Now this deranged attention seeker, says his real name is not Tito Oracion. ;D ;D ;D ;D Why ? Scared you Rat-ocion ??

Tito - I have all your information but you have none about me. Ok ! ;D ;D ;D
I can F____ you in many ways but you cant even pluck a single hair off my groin.

Rot in hell you philipino cockroach. Go to your computer rental lady and clear your debits with her first. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Talks of replicating Teslas work. Haaaa !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on April 04, 2014, 03:37:05 PM

Why you after him Sandeep???
I never saw him abusing or doing something wrong.

If you going heart please ignore him or never come on his thread.

You are intelligent guy, you can get what you are for here...soon. why you waste your time...
why not spend this time for your research.

wishing you best of luck..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 04, 2014, 06:41:13 PM

Quote from: Google on April 04, 2014, 02:31:30 PM
Weizi ! F____ & Ma_____ are birds, trying to catch worms of free-energy from a pond of Tito's piss. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Excuse me for the analogy but thats the reality. F______ is Mr know-all, M_______ doesnt himself know what he wants to achieve from his coils and caps. He is utterly confused and nonsensical.

Over the past 5 years these two people have filled a lot of air in the soap-bubble called Tito.

They are actually responsible for confusion created by Tito on this thread.

Tito is a real b@$t@rd having fun being the PIED-PIEPER. 8) 8) These two pack rats have carried along more rats to follow Tito to carry on his bullcrap for years. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Tito claims that his great grand fathers were inventors, but their are no patents in any of the Oracions names. Nill, nada, zero. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Tito claims he has 12 overunity working devices powering his washing machine and fridge. What a big bullcrap and people believe him. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Do you guys come to this thread after leaving your brains behind, in your freezers ? Is it ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Is there anything called logic and judgement in your life or you have totally lost it ? ;) ;) :D :D ;D ;D

This bugger came here in 2008 begging people to listen to him :

November 27, 2008, 10:10:01 AM »
hi mr. stefan

my name is Tito L. Oracion
i discover the secret of sm, "its the igniter patent of nikola tesla"
incase you want to contact me here is my e_add: titoracionpogi@yahoo.com
Tito L. Oracion (Philippines)
Cell No. :0921-5558080 or 0928-4485522

please try to review it.

Now this deranged attention seeker, says his real name is not Tito Oracion. ;D ;D ;D ;D Why ? Scared you Rat-ocion ??

Tito - I have all your information but you have none about me. Ok ! ;D ;D ;D
I can F____ you in many ways but you cant even pluck a single hair off my groin.

Rot in hell you philipino cockroach. Go to your computer rental lady and clear your debits with her first. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Talks of replicating Teslas work. Haaaa !

"Tito claims that his great grand fathers were inventors, but their are no patents in any of the Oracions names. Nill, nada, zero."

Show me the link to that information.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 04, 2014, 07:28:48 PM

Best to ignore this stirring up of ill will. Let's all agree not to engage in a flame war.
We are getting somewhere, and will get there together. Let's just move past this.
Mags, glad to see you back. I've always admired your work.
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 04, 2014, 07:57:07 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on April 04, 2014, 07:28:48 PM
Best to ignore this stirring up of ill will. Let's all agree not to engage in a flame war.
We are getting somewhere, and will get there together. Let's just move past this.
Mags, glad to see you back. I've always admired your work.
B

Hey Bob

Well Googs is always shooting his mouth off and I wanna see if he even has his facts straight while doing it. ;) One more post from him like today, Ill send Stefan a pm, and anyone who wishes to join me in doing so, the results will be very effective. ;) Being on moderation really sucks. ;) Posts dont appear till they are approved, and end up where they should have been when it was written. So the post, if approved, may not show up for up to a couple days. By then its history and doesnt interrupt day to day reading. ;D

Yeah, been working a lot. Also Im just trying to decipher what these guys have deciphered from Titos hints. lol. .

So far in all Ive done, I have not gotten any measurable gain. If there should be, then Im missing some ingredient, part, transformer config, proper circuit. I spent a lot of time doing projects. It was really getting in the way of my life. I had to buckle down and focus on more work to pay the bills.

But Im going to be back on the bench more.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 04, 2014, 08:02:39 PM

Quote from: Mr. Teslonian on April 03, 2014, 11:04:20 PM
@ Mr Bob Smith, can you kindly explain how current multiples in a TPU circuit ?
--- Mr. Teslonian

Hi Mr. T
Well, I don't have a sure-fire explanation for how current can be multiplied in a TPU circuit. However, I can't help but think of Bedini's many setups in which he dumps radiant energy into caps, then usually batteries, to power his shop. There was a poster over on EF who maintained that radiant energy had to be converted to useable hot electricity by passing it thru a cap, and afterword into a battery.

I also think the neo magnet is worthy of consideration. Recall that the magnetic field around a wire is due to current. Would a magnet at the right juncture help amplify the current of a primarily HV circuit? The IST "Neo Zap" video seemed to indicate adding a magnet might be worth looking into. Syncro1, I believe, has also expounded on some of the unique properties of neo magnets as well. Then there's the magnacoaster fella who seems to be using magnets with coils and cores, but I haven't followed it closely.

I don't think this whole thing is too complicated in the end, but getting there is a process of trial and error to be sure. I still think a Joule Thief pulsed thru a bunch of series wound bifilar coils, connected in series will give us our voltage. Now, maybe putting an electrolytic cap and a schottky diode between them might help things along. Now, whether they're flat swbf coils or wound perpendicularly around the main coil is an open question, I guess. Perhaps it's a combo of both. I liked your idea of one of the coils kicking back into the cap that's feeding into the main coil.

As far as the mixing of metals you quoted from Tito, this sounds very much like the late Otto's insistence that alnico was the way to go for his TPU core. I think it's in his file, which someone should have (I don't think I have it on my current computer). But note that Teets did mention to Otto early in the game that he had found something easier than Otto's version of the TPU that was taking shape.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 04, 2014, 08:20:21 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 04, 2014, 06:41:13 PM
"Tito claims that his great grand fathers were inventors, but their are no patents in any of the Oracions names. Nill, nada, zero."

Show me the link to that information.

Mags

I dont lie like your mentor. Heres the link to refresh your failing memory
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg362265/#msg362265

Ya, i'm a filipino but the father and mother of my Grand father are spanish. and i think that is the reason why i'm an inventor cause my grand father is an inventor.it seems that there is a blood of inventive mind i got from my grand grand parents. and i'm very proud to be a filipino. Overunity is really how nature works and that's the perfect way to let the life of the nature last long. And that is the design of GOD.

@ dil jalaaay , I have personally nothing against anyone here. I simply got flamed due to lies of a deranged philipino, spreading disinpho.

Following his guidance for 5 years, how many of you have working OU devices ?
How many of you have, ever been to replicate any of his hinted hints ?
Even the simplest circuits he has posted are taken from old youtube videos, which do not work as claimed ?
You guys just dont use your judgement and intellect.
You are simply hypnotized by his claims of 12 working Free Energy devices. Shake yourself out of this hypnosis NOW.........
Open your eyes. Wash them with cold water, have a smoke and reflect back, how much you actually could replicate based on this cockroachs hints.

You know something, he derives sadistic pleasure by making you guys mad by his confusing hints. He knows that you wont stop following him like a herd of brainless sheep. And thats the kick he gets out of it. Its kind of a psychological reward for him. If you know a bit of human psychology.

He has made you guys not use your own grey matter. See how much time and efforts you have wasted till now and still none of the hints works as described. He name drops Tesla, Moray, Hubbard and Hendershot and uses terms used by them in their writings to appear authentic. Dont you get it ? Is it really too difficult to figure it out ?

If you still dont get it. Best of luck to you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 04, 2014, 08:34:56 PM

I dont think we are here to follow anyone, we bounce idea's off each other and respect each others comments.

Im not sure Tito has a free energy circuit but if he does I hope he shares it with his family and friends and I sure dont blame him for not sharing openly on a public forum.

Your flaming has cost this thread and is not appreciated, your wasting our time.

Please stop the flame war and lets work together.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 04, 2014, 08:45:09 PM

A word of caution about the neos I just came across (read the post and the ones following it)
http://www.overunity.com/8185/understanding-electricity-in-the-tpu/msg209851/#msg209851

Anyway, I still think it's worth a try.

One thing I forgot to mention in my last post was Tito's hint about the principle behind the TMT. I think it's the arrangement of coils that keeps it ringing so that power can be drawn off without disturbing oscillations or killing the dipole.

@ Dave: I couldn't agree with you more - we'll get it done.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 04, 2014, 10:14:37 PM

Sorry no intention to derail the thread. You gettin me wrong Ok!

Tito heavily quotes (without naming) from erfinder actually.

If it was natures nature to be overunity, why the SUN and other stars should die ? Why the earths rotation diminish, howsoever miniscule over time. Why earth doesnt go into an overdrive mode ?
Why once you are born, you have to die, how so ever you may not want to.

Why oscillations in a ringing circuit die, why they just cant go into an overunity drive mode and let you extract extra energy ?

Every energy has a source and a destination. It can only change form. It cannot be multiplied. Is it too difficult for you to understand ?

Tito has misunderstood and misguided you into overunity overdrive of his own imagination and creation. Which is wrong. His intentions are heavily doubtful.

A unity machine can be a great self running novelty toy, but you cant extract any useful work from it. If you do it halts after sometime.

Do you understand that simple fact ?

Its a fact that I presented to you, its upto you to take it or leave it and live in your dream world.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 04, 2014, 10:27:28 PM

Ok, can you give me one example, just one and only one, which proves the principle of overunity in nature. You can not, because there is none.

Nature just finds a path of least resistance.

Why a twister is in the shape of a vortex ? Why not straight line like a breeze ?

Why a lightening strike is not in a straight line ?

Why the beehive is hexagonal in shape ? Why not square or circular ?

Why the planets are spherical, why not like a toroid or any other geometrical shape ?

Why the leaves of a tree are pointed at the end ? Why not teardrop shaped ?

Why mammals have eyes, ears, nostrils, legs, arms and balls in even numbers ?

Hmmm........ ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 04, 2014, 10:34:53 PM

And Mags, a word for you......

Get your facts right and basics brushed up b4 you hit the bench to waste your own time ;D ;D ;D

There are no magical coils and caps cant power the earth.

Ever heard of the word HOGWASH ? ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on April 04, 2014, 10:41:10 PM

Quote from: Google on April 04, 2014, 10:14:37 PM
Sorry no intention to derail the thread. You gettin me wrong Ok!

Tito heavily quotes (without naming) from erfinder actually.

If it was natures nature to be overunity, why the SUN and other stars should die ? Why the earths rotation diminish, howsoever miniscule over time. Why earth doesnt go into an overdrive mode ?
Why once you are born, you have to die, how so ever you may not want to.

Why oscillations in a ringing circuit die, why they just cant go into an overunity drive mode and let you extract extra energy ?

Every energy has a source and a destination. It can only change form. It cannot be multiplied. Is it too difficult for you to understand ?

Tito has misunderstood and misguided you into overunity overdrive of his own imagination and creation. Which is wrong. His intentions are heavily doubtful.

A unity machine can be a great self running novelty toy, but you cant extract any useful work from it. If you do it halts after sometime.

Do you understand that simple fact ?

Its a fact that I presented to you, its upto you to take it or leave it and live in your dream world.

what he said :) +1

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on April 05, 2014, 01:59:47 AM

@Google

QuoteWhy oscillations in a ringing circuit die, why they just cant go into an overunity drive mode and let you extract [color=rgb(27, 142, 222) !important]extra energy[/color] ?

I understand your point however there is a matter of intelligence and perspective to consider. You ask why do oscillations in a ringing circuit die and I understand that from your narrow perspective you have literally no idea how this could not be the case. In my case however I must ask the question how could the ring down be prevented, what could I do to prevent it and what conditions might apply. One perspective (yours) implies that our understanding may never evolve and another (mine) implies we must evolve or we are no better than an ape that just so happened to learn how to speak and walk upright.

QuoteEvery [color=rgb(27, 142, 222) !important]energy[/color] has a source and a destination. It can only change form. It cannot be multiplied. Is it too difficult for you to understand ?

Well actually no, do you actually understand modern physics?, the common consensus is that the "field" is composed of virtual particles popping in and out of existence from multiple parallel universes aka Einstein/Feynman. Thus that miraculous stuff which exists between matter you obviously do not understand cannot conceivably transfer nor transform energy from here to there nor anywhere. As such I would hesitate to conclude you really understand anything regarding real physics beyond the poor textbooks you may have been studying.

QuoteTito has misunderstood and misguided you into overunity overdrive of his own imagination and creation. Which is wrong. His intentions are heavily doubtful.

Misunderstood and misguided is relative, it wasn't all that long ago I saw a video of respected and credible scientists rolling around in pools of mercury and piles of asbestos proclaiming --- Wee look it's perfectly safe and really fun. So yea please do no lecture me on misunderstood and misguided because I still see it on a daily basis on the news every night and the science journals every morning.

Let's be honest , you want to believe and I know you do otherwise you wouldn't be here but you have literally no comprehension of how it could be done or why it would work or how you could possibly achieve it thus to retain your sanity/credibility you must reject it. At which point I would submit the obvious, If whatever you cannot believe must not be true then wouldn't that mean reality and the whole of the universe as we know it must be dictated by your beliefs?. Thus the true nature of the problem rears it's ugly head, I would suggest reading "the Crowd, a study of the popular mind" by one Gustave Le Bon until something clicks.

AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 02:30:18 AM

Mr Dreamy Creamy Canadian ;D

Agreed Sir, textbooks dont teach everything. Sir you are talking about Mathematical Physics, and you can derive N number of mathematical equations to prove the existance of virtual particles. Thats what Michio Kaku and Einstein also do. Paper scientists !!! Sir I dunno who has a narrow perspective, but you are pointing towards me, I beg to differ with you, with due regards. And am sure you are creating and destroying black holes everyday on your bench (dream thought experiments ;D) Sir. Time travel and electrogravitics must be your second nature Sir. Isnt it ?

Sir, I was thinking from my ape brain if you could show me something which is miraculous for the unevolved apes like me. I am sure you have many such miraculous devices heating your home for free and running your car on water and I am sure you must be running your household appliances on a 1.5 Volt AAA battery.

Sir, kindly share a video or two to jerk my ape brain to see beyond the obvious.

Yeah right Sir, mind sharing the video please. Are you also drinking Mercury milk shakes and eating Asbestos bread, from that wide perspective of yours ?

Sir, please tell me how many papers have you written and where have they been published in some CREDIBLE science jounals ? I hope that will help a lot in establishing your own credibility.

Sir, my problem is simple, I just refuse to go with the crowd in a herd of sheep. Sir, please share a piece of your sanity with the apes like me to believe in your story of the TRUTH, that probably only you have discovered in your THOUGHT EXPERIMENTS.

Otherwise its all hot air Sir, from my ape brains perspective. And better to shut up if you cant prove it. Ok. Lot of pigeon $h!t already around. Please dont add more to it. ;D

DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF OF OVERUNITY MR. DREAMY CANADIAN ???

Fried and Crunchy Google ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 05, 2014, 03:53:12 AM

:brainer
e welcome to the bana na republic

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 05, 2014, 04:01:06 AM

back to the topic guys

Actually TPU may be simply particle accelerator. You need current amplification ,right ? Think about it, think about ampere definition. Kapanadze devices is the same concept, actually it is one way to use external energy if you want low frequency not high.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 04:05:40 AM

You know its so simple. Either prove what you are saying or shut up.
Dont brag that you are carrying a bomb up your sleeve. If you cant show, stop bragging. Keep your bomb safe with you, be happy with it and keep mum.

Crunchy Crispy Google ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on April 05, 2014, 04:24:44 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc)

Nature Gives a very big clue here to whats possible,,Knocking a photon from orbit which as it turns out is one of the telltale signs for hydrogen going from a lower state to a higher state of energy [photon release].
'
A bug can manipulate matter with a punch or shock wave ,and you believe men have no hope with coils and pulses and capacitors and such??

I feel dirty over here I have to go take a bath........................

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on April 05, 2014, 04:50:41 AM

Quote from: forest on April 05, 2014, 04:01:06 AM
back to the topic guys

. You need current amplification ,right ? Think about it, think about ampere definition. Kapanadze devices is the same concept, actually it is one way to use external energy if you want low frequency not high.

@Forest, agree with your point about TPU: Actually TPU may be simply particle accelerator.TPU composed of multistage Teasla coil. how to arrange these coils, need a help of math fomula expreesion.

WEIZI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on April 05, 2014, 04:59:41 AM

BTW, TPU is my one of my favorite OU devices. bz it's simple circuit, low cost, a small starting power source, huge out put.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 05:02:54 AM

Hey why dont you ask the dreamy creamy allcanadian to provide you a theoretical paper formula.

He seems to be very good at thought experiments and Einstenian Particle Physics.

Or better ask Michio Kaku !!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 05:11:47 AM

Quote from: Google on April 05, 2014, 05:02:54 AM
Hey why dont you ask the dreamy creamy allcanadian to provide you a theoretical paper formula.

He seems to be very good at thought experiments and Einstenian Particle Physics.

Michio kaku made a home made particle accelerator when he was in class 10 with junk material.

------------------------READ BELOW-----------------------------------

Michio Kaku
Theoretical Physicist

Interesting Highlights
Built a particle accelerator in his garage in high school

Loves to figure skate

Goal in life: to find a one-inch equation that explains everything.

Advice for Students
Give the impossible a chance

Physics is about curiosity and imagination, not brilliance
Find a physicist role model or mentor

Why Physics?
Dreaming of the Impossible
When Michio was growing up, he loved science fiction shows and books, filled with time-traveling heroes, parallel universes, and intergalactic space travel.

"Magic, fantasy, [and] science fiction were all a gigantic playground for my imagination. They began a lifelong love [of] the impossible," Michio says.

So when he grew older and had to put science fiction aside, Michio knew the one place he could cling to the impossible was physics.

"Without a solid background in advanced physics, I would be forever speculating about futuristic technologies without understanding whether or not they were possible. I realized [to know,] I needed to immerse myself in advanced mathematics and learn theoretical physics," Michio says. "So that is what I did."

The Unfinished Mystery
Michio was also largely inspired by a non-fictional hero- Albert Einstein.

The day Einstein died, Michio's teachers told his class that the great physicist had died before he completing his biggest discovery- a "theory of everything". Michio was fascinated by this story and unfinished theory, and began going to the library to learn more about Einstein and his work.

Although his family was poor, they whole-heartedly supported Michio's curiosity, letting him build experiments in the house and taking him to local university libraries. Michio was determined to understand what this incomplete theory was all about.

Using Physics
A 'Smash' Hit
By the time Michio got to high school, he had a well-established passion for physics.

For the science fair, Michio constructed a 2.3eV atom smasher in his garage. This particle accelerator was made of 400 pounds of scrap metal, 22 miles of copper wire, and generated a magnetic field 20,000 times greater than the Earth's.

This ambitious project got him a spot at the National Science Fair. There, it caught nuclear physicist Edward Teller's attention, and earned Michio a full-ride to Harvard University.

String Theory: Finishing what Einstein Started
Einstein spent the last part of his life trying to find a 'theory of everything'- one that could tie together his theory of general relativity and quantum mechanics. These two theories are not fully compatible in our current understanding of physics.

As physicists have picked up where Einstein stopped, one solution they have come up with is string theory. String theory combines the two theories by assuming there are multiple universes and dimensions beyond the ones we know.

After getting his PhD from the University of California, Berkley, Michio joined in on this challenge. He co-founded string field theory, a subset of string theory. String field theory uses the mathematics of fields to explain string theory.

More evidence and a better understanding of string theory may one day allow us to travel between universes and into new dimensions, potentially even making time travel possible.

Opening the Doors to the Next Dimension
In addition to making many contributions to the field of theoretical physics and string theory, Michio is also a passionate science communicator.

He has taught at Princeton University and the City College of New York, as well as written seven books on science for the general public. Michio has also appeared on dozens of radio and television shows and documentaries, explaining complex theories in a way everyone can understand.
Physics of the Impossible by Michio Kaku
Talk on String Theory

"Einstein once said, 'If a theory cannot be explained to a child, then the theory is probably worthless'," Michio says. "Meaning that great ideas are pictorial. Great ideas can be explained in the language of pictures. Things that you can see and touch, objects that you can visualize in the mind. That is what science is all about, not memorizing facts and figures."

Advice for Students
Consider the Impossible
The very concept of string theory seems to be absurd at first glance. But Michio points out that in the past several centuries, it is the ideas that were labeled 'impossible' and 'ridiculous' that have made all modern scientific advances possible.

"Time and time again, [we've seen] that the study of the impossible has...[pushed] the boundaries of physics and chemistry, forcing scientists to redefine what they mean by 'impossible'," Michio says. "We ignore the impossible at our [expense]."

Find a Role Model
"Try to make contact with real physicists, if possible. Role models are extremely important," Michio says. "If you cannot talk to a real physicist, read biographies of the giants of physics, to understand their motivation, their career path, the milestones in their career. A role model can help you lay out a career path that is realistic and practical."

Be Curious
Michio believes it is a natural drive to understand the universe that makes a true physicist.

"People often ask the question: do I have to be an Einstein to become a physicist? The answer is NO," Michio says. "Sure, physicists have to be proficient in mathematics, but the main thing is to have that curiosity and drive. One of the greatest physicists of all time, Michael Faraday, started out as a penniless, uneducated apprentice, but he was persistent and creative and then went on to revolutionize modern civilization."

Or better ask Michio Kaku !!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Hope on April 05, 2014, 05:26:00 AM

To the end of this discussion I can say, collect the response to the injected disturbance that initial waveform made, capture every bit of it and we will have data that proves moving the hill base makes the hill fall and THAT is a huge amount of energy release. (so to speak) Nature then will move all that energy back and we can do it over and over. A bit in and a great deal out. Nature balances and always seeks to return balance. Over and Over .....etc.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on April 05, 2014, 06:20:32 AM

Quote from: Hope on April 05, 2014, 05:26:00 AM
To the end of this discussion I can say, collect the response to the injected disturbance that initial waveform made, capture every bit of it and we will have data that proves moving the hill base makes the hill fall and THAT is a huge amount of energy release. (so to speak) Nature then will move all that energy back and we can do it over and over. A bit in and a great deal out. Nature balances and always seeks to return balance. Over and Over .....etc.

@hope
Actually You clearly told that what is energy! appreciate.

to Google: you are so energized, never need sleep. and fast type speed, and huge information data base, you are a prodigy, calmdown Plz. maybe you will be welcome and helpful person here.

WEIZI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 06:33:35 AM

Quote from: ramset on April 05, 2014, 04:24:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc)

Nature Gives a very big clue here to whats possible,,Knocking a photon from orbit which as it turns out is one of the telltale signs for hydrogen going from a lower state to a higher state of energy [photon release].
'
A bug can manipulate matter with a punch or shock wave ,and you believe men have no hope with coils and pulses and capacitors and such??

I feel dirty over here I have to go take a bath........................

Yeah I can smell the odour you are drenched in, please take a shower of photons in the sunlight. ;D ;D ;D ;D The UV rays will directly energize your pair of leyden jars which you can then dump the charge in your coil hanging dead beween your leyden jars and watch your coil ringing with zero point energy. After sometime your ringing coil will dump its charge back into the air like an arc. And your coil will de enrgize and hang back in place. :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 06:42:45 AM

Quote from: weizisky on April 05, 2014, 06:20:32 AM
@hope
Actually You clearly told that what is energy! appreciate.

to Google: you are so energized, never need sleep. and fast type speed, and huge information data base, you are a prodigy, calmdown Plz. maybe you will be welcome and helpful person here.

WEIZI

Dear Weizi, Thanks for the compliments. ;D ;D ;D .

What is the shape of the magnetic field of a stretched conductor and a coiled conductor.
What will happen when these two fields are made to interact in a certain geometry.
What will the properties of the resultant magnetic field ?
How the resultant magnetic field will effect the electrons in the stretched conductor.

NEED I SAY MORE WEIZI ;D ;D ;D

Crispy Crunchy Michio Kaku here ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 05, 2014, 06:44:46 AM

Can we separate in stages the hints ideas list them down and start testing
Those tested to work or not can also be included for scrutiny
Power supply
Dc hv electrostatic vacuum tube
Type of coils flat bifi or multiple trigger on primary
Not to kill the dipole
Secondary pick up size
Switching technique pc fan with neos relays cap resistor
Combining Eric dollars flux caps itor and totsbattry transformer
8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 06:59:08 AM

Quote from: Hope on April 05, 2014, 05:26:00 AM
To the end of this discussion I can say, collect the response to the injected disturbance that initial waveform made, capture every bit of it and we will have data that proves moving the hill base makes the hill fall and THAT is a huge amount of energy release. (so to speak) Nature then will move all that energy back and we can do it over and over. A bit in and a great deal out. Nature balances and always seeks to return balance. Over and Over .....etc.

Can you please give an example of this self building hill, which has fallen down. What do you think the nature is waiting for the hill to fall down to rebuild it against its own gravity. I think you will need bulldozers, excavators and earthmovers fuelled by disel that costs money to rebuild the hill.
;D
Michio Tesla from Colorado springs here. ;D :D ;D Over and out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on April 05, 2014, 07:03:40 AM

Quote from: Google on April 05, 2014, 06:42:45 AM
Dear Weizi, Thanks for the compliments. ;D ;D ;D .

What is the shape of the magnetic field of a stretched conductor and a coiled conductor.
What will happen when these two fields are made to interact in a certain geometry.
What will the properties of the resultant magnetic field ?
How the resultant magnetic field will effect the electrons in the stretched conductor.

NEED I SAY MORE WEIZI ;D ;D ;D

Crispy Crunchy Michio Kaku here ;D ;D ;D

Hi Google,Good post you made, you get the key of TPU working principle, congratulation! hope you keeping on this positive attitude. come on.

WEIZI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 07:04:10 AM

Quote from: totoalas on April 05, 2014, 06:44:46 AM
Can we separate in stages the hints ideas list them down and start testing
Those tested to work or not can also be included for scrutiny
Power supply
Dc hv electrostatic vacuum tube
Type of coils flat bifi or multiple trigger on primary
Not to kill the dipole
Secondary pick up size
Switching technique pc fan with neos relays cap resistor
Combining Eric dollars flux caps itor and totsbattry transformer
8)

Even after 603 posts and hero membership on the forum, you failed to realize that people who figure out something either fall silent or vanish. What do you expect ? Is it an Electronics classroom and you paid fees to the institute to teach you hints ? You yourself make your videos PRIVATE and expect a list of hints from others. Wow !!!! ;) ;) ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 07:08:37 AM

Quote from: weizisky on April 05, 2014, 07:03:40 AM
Hi Google,Good post you made, you get the key of TPU working principle, congratulation! hope you keeping on this positive attitude. come on.

WEIZI

Dear Weizi !!

Sshhhhhhhhhhh. :-X :-X :-X :-X

Dont break the rules of this thread by opening my secret. Shhhhhhhhhhhhh. :-X :-X :-X

Born in the USA, I was born in the USA. ;D ;D ;D

Crispy Crunchy RomeroUSA ;D ;D ;D over and out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 07:16:26 AM

I got the secret of TPU from here >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHsx7Kz0jyo

H@cl<3r ○|= ♡¡l)3○$ ;D ;D over and out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 05, 2014, 07:18:28 AM

Quote from: Google on April 05, 2014, 07:04:10 AM
Even after 603 posts and hero membership on the forum, you failed to realize that people who figure out something either fall silent or vanish. What do you expect ? Is it an Electronics classroom and you paid fees to the institute to teach you hints ? You yourself make your videos PRIVATE and expect a list of hints from others. Wow !!!! ;) ;) ;D ;D

that means you will post yours on your hero member status mark
Wow that will be great
No more gold diggers and gold mine with your discovery
You use Tito for your fame and fortune
Just asking without titos thread you can divulge your laboratory gold nuggets we are eagerly awaiting since you have lots of energy to post :P ::) :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 05, 2014, 07:32:49 AM

Quote from: Google on April 05, 2014, 07:16:26 AM
I got the secret of TPU from here >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHsx7Kz0jyo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHsx7Kz0jyo)

H@cl<3r ○|= ♡¡l)3○$ ;D ;D over and out.

If he has something, ask him to share it.

I have a simple method of turning heavy metals to gold using elemental transmutation. I have tested it in my institute's lab secretly and got positive results. However the process consumes very large amounts of electrical energy. So its not feasible on large scale right now. But once we have a free energy circuit, hopefully, anyone can make gold in large amounts to make him rich. (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/wink.gif) (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)

Anyone can do it with a homemade contraption, made from junk parts. I will post free instructions to do so on this forum and everyone can start producing gold at home with free energy. Gold production and storage by others will devaluate the legal currency of USA and will break the stronghold of bankers.

I will share my secret once Tito shares his circuit of free electricity with the forum. Its a promise.

Each baby step taken in the right direction with >:( >:( positive attitude :P :P will lead to extraordinary results. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fsmiley.gif&hash=f8f8faa5737a843fa5f3e4af986c18073b26d5a4)

Best,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 05, 2014, 07:54:22 AM

Quote from: weizisky on April 05, 2014, 04:50:41 AM
@Forest, agree with your point about TPU: Actually TPU may be simply particle accelerator.TPU composed of multistage Teasla coil. how to arrange these coils, need a help of math fomula expreesion.
WEIZI

;D ;D ;D
Perhaps this needs to be a core focus for this project - how to replicate the workings of the Tesla Coil or even the TMT in TPU form.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 08:05:02 AM

;D :D ;D ;D

TitoAlas , I am a faceless 15 year old kid from internet. I dont want fame and fortune. God has been kind enough to me and I am thankful to him for that. Everyday I wake up I thank God for giving me one more day to live.

As regards my manners I am just a hard hitter and dont beat around the bush.

Feeling jealous ? Your Hero Membership couldnt break the TPU secret and you are jumping from thread to thread to catch some secret but unfortunately your antenna is small and earth connection is too deep. Whatever little you catch from your small antenna gets earthed immediately. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Your 1nF cap brain cant retain enough charge and starts ringing with heat of the waves crossing between your small antenna and large earth. ;D ;D ;D ;D

When your 1nF cap brain heats up, you start combining Erics flux
capacitor with TPU and Titos circuits. ;D ;D ;D ;D

See I am here for fun. ;D ;D ;D ;D

I will share my secret once Tito shares his circuit of free electricity with the forum. Its a promise.

Barbeque Chicken From McDonalds. ;D ;D Over and out. Just a joke. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 08:08:13 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on April 05, 2014, 07:54:22 AM
;D ;D ;D

:o :o :o :o

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 08:14:50 AM

Hey Weizi, Bob Smith is making fun of you and showing you his tounge. :P :P :P :P :P

Bob, start using tounge cleaner please. Its yellow. Yuck. Make sure you dont put your tounge in wrong place. ;D ;D

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 08:18:36 AM

@moderator,

Please change the name of this thread to smily amplification. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 05, 2014, 08:29:13 AM

Quote from: Google on April 05, 2014, 08:14:50 AM
Hey Weizi, Bob Smith is making fun of you and showing you his tounge. :P :P :P :P :P

Bob, start using tounge cleaner please. Its yellow. Yuck. Make sure you dont put your tounge in wrong place. ;D ;D

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D

to Google: you are so energized, never need sleep. and fast type speed, and huge information data base, you are a prodigy, calmdown Plz. maybe you will be welcome and helpful person here.

WEIZI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 05, 2014, 08:30:47 AM

Quote@Forest, agree with your point about TPU: Actually TPU may be simply particle accelerator.TPU composed of multistage Teasla coil. how to arrange these coils, need a help of math fomula expreesion.
WEIZI

Quote from: Bob Smith on April 05, 2014, 07:54:22 AM
;D ;D ;D
Perhaps this needs to be a core focus for this project - how to replicate the workings of the Tesla Coil or even the TMT in TPU form.
Bob

Mr. Teslonian, maybe this is where your expertise can really help us (in addition to the valuable sleuthing you've contributed).

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 05, 2014, 08:50:58 AM

totoalas,

why do you keep your vidio private? :-X :-X :-X

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 05, 2014, 08:55:30 AM

Bob Smith,

no clarification? ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 09:06:18 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 05, 2014, 08:50:58 AM
totoalas,

why do you keep your vidio private? :-X :-X :-X

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Dont embarass him.Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. :-X :-X :-X
He has learnt this art from his (tor)mentor Tito. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

But you can still h@€l< his videos by downloading a free software. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on April 05, 2014, 09:32:27 AM

@Google

So you want proof do you, here is a video of how I first discovered free energy utilizing the Cat/Toast principal. The logic is undeniable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8yW5cyXXRc

AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 05, 2014, 09:34:41 AM

Quote from: Google on April 05, 2014, 09:06:18 AM
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Dont embarass him.Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. :-X :-X :-X
He has learnt this art from his (tor)mentor Tito. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

But you can still h@€l< his videos by downloading a free software. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Makes sense, your laptop contains a virus ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 05, 2014, 09:41:15 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 05, 2014, 08:50:58 AM
totoalas,

why do you keep your vidio private? :-X :-X :-X

Have you checked my copied videos in other threads
Most of it are replication with gratitude given to contributors
I always open it for a month is there any problem with my work

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 05, 2014, 09:47:03 AM

Don't want to waste my time with you gigs

Will not respond anymore in respect to real guys here
That's how i earned my status here

Respect and positive attitude

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 09:48:03 AM

Quote from: allcanadian on April 05, 2014, 09:32:27 AM
@Google

So you want proof do you, here is a video of how I first discovered free energy utilizing the Cat/Toast principal. The logic is undeniable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8yW5cyXXRc

AC

;D ;D That was a crispy toast with creamy yummy butter. Poor cat. ;D ;D

Was that toast made of Asbestos and butter contained Mercury. ;D ;D

Good one AC.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 09:51:48 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 05, 2014, 09:34:41 AM
Makes sense, your laptop contains a virus ;D ;D ;D ;D

I dont use a laptop. I use a tabtop. So no virus. ;D ;D ;D
My tabtop is connected to an antenna and a ozone patent miniature circuit so I never need to recharge it ever. ;D ;D ;D

Crispy Yummy Chicken Chopswey :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 05, 2014, 09:55:14 AM

Quote from: totoalas on April 05, 2014, 09:41:15 AM
Have you checked my copied videos in other threads
Most of it are replication with gratitude given to contributors
I always open it for a month is there any problem with my work

The problem i don't know the thread or link, will you share here?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 10:06:05 AM

Quote from: totoalas on April 05, 2014, 09:47:03 AM
Don't want to waste my time with you gigs

Will not respond anymore in respect to real guys here
That's how i earned my status here

Respect and positive attitude

Ok to boost your positive attitude a file is attached. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 05, 2014, 10:07:40 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 05, 2014, 09:55:14 AM
The problem i don't know the thread or link, will you share here?
[/quote
Try to Google it 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 10:13:40 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 05, 2014, 09:55:14 AM
The problem i don't know the thread or link, will you share here?

Try to google Imtotob youtube channel, nada, niet niet, nill, zero. ;D ;D ;D
Area 51 UFOs, Tesla Death Ray and Alien interviews films on that channel. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 10:17:15 AM

You want more to download ? Ok ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 10:20:33 AM

Tell me if you want more. I have many to share with everyone coz free energy = free info.

;D ;) ::) :P :) ;D ;D

Crunchy pdf files to chew on. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 05, 2014, 10:29:41 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 05, 2014, 09:55:14 AM
The problem i don't know the thread or link, will you share here?

http://www.overunity.com/solid-state-devices/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 05, 2014, 10:32:48 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 05, 2014, 08:55:30 AM
Bob Smith,

no clarification? ;D ;D ;D

Marsing, the three smilies were to express my agreement with Weizisky's comments, affirming what Forest said about the particle accelerator and using the Tesla coil as a model for the TPU:

Quote@Forest, agree with your point about TPU: Actually TPU may be simply particle accelerator.TPU composed of multistage Teasla coil. how to arrange these coils, need a help of math fomula expreesion.
WEIZI

Quote from: Bob Smith on Today at 01:54:22 PM

;D ;D ;D

This is why I said:

QuotePerhaps this needs to be a core focus for this project - how to replicate the workings of the Tesla Coil or even the TMT in TPU form.

And based on this, I posted this message to Mr. Teslonian:

QuoteMr. Teslonian, maybe this is where your expertise can really help us (in addition to the valuable sleuthing you've contributed).

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on April 05, 2014, 10:44:59 AM

@Google

I like that video and the message I saw in it. We may say and believe any number of things however for me science is not something I do but a part of my life, it's about connecting the dots on my own. I may be wrong or right, I may find success or not, I may be completely misguided in my thoughts at times. However at the end of the day it always comes down to what we saw in the video... one person making the connection, making it work.

As such I think we can all agree that no matter which way the cat spins at the end of the day it must in fact spin. We need tangible proof that what we believe is true and until that time it's all simply speculation. However that does not mean we can't have fun, science is supposed to be fun, it is supposed to be a personal journey of learning and discovery. Have fun with it :).

[size=78%]AC[/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 05, 2014, 10:45:36 AM

www.youtube.com/user/imtotob
www.youtube.com/user/totoalas

I give up ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 05, 2014, 10:47:06 AM

Quote from: allcanadian on April 05, 2014, 09:32:27 AM
@Google

So you want proof do you, here is a video of how I first discovered free energy utilizing the Cat/Toast principal. The logic is undeniable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8yW5cyXXRc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8yW5cyXXRc)

AC

OMG! That IT!

So simple you would laugh!

Ugh think I peed myself on that one...

We need to patent that quickly!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 05, 2014, 11:16:48 AM

Bob smith

i was watching your posts only with three smiles before you edited that, then google cacth it fast, sometime someone misunderstood the meaning, that why i asks,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 05, 2014, 11:40:30 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on April 05, 2014, 11:17:10 AM

Wow.....that brought on tears and some painful memories.

Some good points were made....for the record...I never constructed those machines, it took me a few years, but I eventually got decent at drawing in 3D and made better drawings.

It's unfortunate to see that after seven years, some are still asking the same silly questions. Sad to see that no progress has been made as far as understanding what magnetism, electricity and gravity are and how they are related to one another. Same noob questions are being asked regarding the difference between bifilar and standard wound solenoids. And the back breaker, no one seems to understand what resonance is.... Everyone has an opinion, especially the old vets, and no one has jack to show! Shameful! SEVEN YEARS PEOPLE!!! Enough money has been invested in the search for us to have built an empire!

Some are making some REALLY big claims, no hardware.... and others are still doing the baby bird thing...open beaks waiting to be filled.....the rest are trapped in "wheres my guru" mode....

If you are one of the few who can do the impossible, keep silent, I don't want it, unless you can coherently explain in true mainstream fashion how the device functions. If you can't use the text book that I was issued in high school to explain the functioning of the device, then you don't stand a chance making it practical, and any and everything you do here or any other forum is hopeless. I'm not interested in hearing how mainstream got it wrong, lots of that going on too, you can't "prove it", and even if you could, it still proves nothing.

The folks who have delivered the goods are showered with rotten tomatoes, while the ones who deliver what can only be described as "the runs" you kiss on the mouth with an open mouth.....nasty....

I applaud those few souls who have been hardened by the BS, the false hope, the wild goose chase, and the blah blah blah from the self appointed/anointed authorities. Keep up the good fight. Fact is the truth is out there, and its up to each and every one of us to find that truth for ourselves. Sheep get shaved, slaughtered and screwed, and by screwed I mean proper fucked....not necessarily in that order.

Google whom ever you are, keep your head up, swimming against the current is tough, but makes strong wise fish.

Regards

Coherently explain why it works? You might as well not post here again because we are looking at ways that go beyond what we thought we knew. Look at it like this: This was hidden from our sight! It was buried as deep as they could get it without being in your face about interfering. The fed owns us. This is a majority debtor society. When we go outside of their false mantras that they beat into our skulls from day one they tend to get very angry and will do many things to make your life impossible. "They" know who you are and where you are. There is a US,UK,Rus government agency that does just that. "They" get paid to be here and muddle up the works. "They" are not your friend.
Everything that has happened here ie the direction of threads is dictated by "them". They distract, degrade, disrupt and disinfo everything. This takes down anyone who doesn't conform. You can tell who "they" are.

You pose a conundrum by requiring us to use the false doctrines to justify this new field we are trying to explore. It will never happen.. There is no way to explain these effects we are exploring while using doctrines that don't work for this field. It works really well for the normal system we use today but this other technique is of an offshoot of that system. The current doctrines only describe the voltage field very limitedly. Any time others tried to say hey there is something here to this other side of our system they were squashed. Again this post seems to set rules for us in effect tying our hands from describing this effect. Thats not gonna happen though. And to tell you the truth if I had my way you wouldn't be part of the discovery either. Well really the re-discovery.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 01:16:54 PM

Quote from: Marsing on April 05, 2014, 10:45:36 AM
www.youtube.com/user/imtotob
www.youtube.com/user/totoalas

I give up ???

I have said many times that no one will tell you their truth here. Infact everyone in his own right is a clever disinpho agent here of their own will. Fooling others specially the newbies who join to learn.

So dont expect and do your own research and use your judgement to decipher gold from crap.

:D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 01:21:32 PM

Quote from: jbignes5 on April 05, 2014, 10:47:06 AM

OMG! That IT!

So simple you would laugh!

Ugh think I peed myself on that one...

We need to patent that quickly!

And the Creamy Dreamy Canadian claims he lives science. O hahahahaha..... ;D ;D
I used ammild word pigeon $h!t for his blabbering, its actually the blue whale $h!t. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 01:26:29 PM

Quote from: Marsing on April 05, 2014, 10:45:36 AM
www.youtube.com/user/imtotob
www.youtube.com/user/totoalas

I give up ???

Dont worry I have all his and others PRIVATE VIDEOS already downloaded using my software. Let him show off his RESPECT AND STATUS that he has earned by hiding his work. I will upload his videos on metacafe and other sites and let him sue me for copyright infringement if he has excess funds to hire a lawyer. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 01:30:53 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on April 05, 2014, 11:17:10 AM

Wow.....that brought on tears and some painful memories.

Some good points were made....for the record...I never constructed those machines, it took me a few years, but I eventually got decent at drawing in 3D and made better drawings.

It's unfortunate to see that after seven years, some are still asking the same silly questions. Sad to see that no progress has been made as far as understanding what magnetism, electricity and gravity are and how they are related to one another. Same noob questions are being asked regarding the difference between bifilar and standard wound solenoids. And the back breaker, no one seems to understand what resonance is.... Everyone has an opinion, especially the old vets, and no one has jack to show! Shameful! SEVEN YEARS PEOPLE!!! Enough money has been invested in the search for us to have built an empire!

Some are making some REALLY big claims, no hardware.... and others are still doing the baby bird thing...open beaks waiting to be filled.....the rest are trapped in "wheres my guru" mode....

If you are one of the few who can do the impossible, keep silent, I don't want it, unless you can coherently explain in true mainstream fashion how the device functions. If you can't use the text book that I was issued in high school to explain the functioning of the device, then you don't stand a chance making it practical, and any and everything you do here or any other forum is hopeless. I'm not interested in hearing how mainstream got it wrong, lots of that going on too, you can't "prove it", and even if you could, it still proves nothing.

The folks who have delivered the goods are showered with rotten tomatoes, while the ones who deliver what can only be described as "the runs" you kiss on the mouth with an open mouth.....nasty....

I applaud those few souls who have been hardened by the BS, the false hope, the wild goose chase, and the blah blah blah from the self appointed/anointed authorities. Keep up the good fight. Fact is the truth is out there, and its up to each and every one of us to find that truth for ourselves. Sheep get shaved, slaughtered and screwed, and by screwed I mean proper fucked....not necessarily in that order.

Google whom ever you are, keep your head up, swimming against the current is tough, but makes strong wise fish.

Regards

I +1 your post Sir. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 05, 2014, 01:39:28 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on April 05, 2014, 12:08:14 PM

False doctrines...LOL....you being able to flush your toilet is a testament to them getting at least one thing right. Do your thing, make it all up as you go along, throw the work of the geniuses out the window, you will get there faster that way. Our not comprehending, the text doesn't make the text wrong. You and many like you, if in the majority, would vote for book burning, and when that happens (again) we will truly be thrown into the dark ages. I'm not going to defend the book, it can do that on its own. You don't have to read it, but its not wise of you nor anyone else to quote those who did read those documents in your rants, that's double think, right? Your guru studied the books and says that most of the "information" contained therein is usable, and you say your guru is right in what he/she presents, however the books are wrong.....right....to each his own. Problems with authority...you don't like rules....I didn't set anything, that's an assumption you made, you forgot the part that said "I don't want it unless....." get the quote right if you are going to quote me. "Voltage field? ??? ?" enough said..

I am so glad that as you are limited by your paradigm, and conspiracies, you have no say in anything of significance!

Regards

Make it up huh??? Care to explain "Electron" theory for me? How about Kirchoff's law? Pffft.. Made up my arse. I actually am going back to the way our forefathers thought of it. At least it worked for THOUSANDS of years. We knew more way back in antiquity then we know now. Our scientific method is crap and everyone knows it. It is based solely on what we could profit from and thats the bottom line.We shunned everything else to keep the status quo of income streams. It is not about the excitement of finding out answers anymore. That quick changes to how much can I make from a bandaid instead of fixing the problem. The problem fix would nix all further income and the bandaid creates a revenue stream. This is one method of control else everyone would be flocking this way and that doing whatever they please.

Lets take kirchoff's law...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hstum3U2zw

This man so eloquently describe the problem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2W5jaxKlgU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 01:44:17 PM

JB, Can you share your discovery about VOLTAGE please. I hope you wont repeat Bearded A$$h0/3's theory of not killing the dipole.

All stories of Fed watching you, Men in black and suppression is a bullox and please get over it now for Petes sake.

Do you have any device to show ? If not, please stop teaching your own exotic science. PERIOD.
Uhhhhhh :o :o :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 05, 2014, 01:51:31 PM

Some Vets = same bullcrap repeated x 10 years = 10 years of bs. Nothing to show, only incoherent theories. And DVDs and books to sell and plans and paid forums like _______TPU. Cash on the newbies bewilderment. This is called intellectual dishonesty. >:( >:( >:(

;D ;D ;D ;D Over and out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 05, 2014, 06:12:37 PM

Quote from: Google on April 05, 2014, 01:51:31 PM
Some Vets = same bullcrap repeated x 10 years = 10 years of bs. Nothing to show, only incoherent theories. And DVDs and books to sell and plans and paid forums like _______TPU. Cash on the newbies bewilderment. This is called intellectual dishonesty. >:( >:( >:(

;D ;D ;D ;D Over and out.

Don't know if it's Full moon turning s:-):-)t into gold
Nugget boy hihihi

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 05, 2014, 08:27:12 PM

Mr Google I checked your profile and your date of birth is 28 Dec 1998. Why have you made this place a boxing ring ? You have made sparks flying all across this thread due to your comments. However I do appreciate a lot of information shared by you.

Wizkid its time you actually focus on subject matter and contribute more.

I once again appreciate your profound comment on the effect of combining magnetic fields. I get a feel that you have really a sharp mind working 24x7. Please help in more constructive ways.

---Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 05, 2014, 08:51:28 PM

Mr. Bob Smith, kindly go through the attached pdf for more answers.

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 05, 2014, 09:17:45 PM

Mr. Tito has mentioned in his posts about using carbon and aluminium to generate electrons. The secret is here . What he probably meant was is deccribed in the video below.

He has given facts no doubt but jumbled so much that you cant get the meaning easily. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy1oAeBxJ4A

---Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on April 05, 2014, 09:38:12 PM

Carbon and aluminum??? Yes, you can light LED bulbs using galvanic cells.
And that's all...
As usual, no proof of anything really useful.
There are certain things the never change. Galvanics aren't worth the effort, at least not in my book.

Hints hints, and more hints... But no cigar!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 05, 2014, 11:59:07 PM

Quote from: Google on April 05, 2014, 01:44:17 PM
JB, Can you share your discovery about VOLTAGE please. I hope you wont repeat Bearded A$$h0/3's theory of not killing the dipole.

All stories of Fed watching you, Men in black and suppression is a bullox and please get over it now for Petes sake.

Do you have any device to show ? If not, please stop teaching your own exotic science. PERIOD.
Uhhhhhh :o :o :o

Nope not sharing with you. See it doesn't matter what I think, the only thing that matters is what IS. What is, is your problem. You can not hide it anymore. We are finding out what really is and no you are not invited to the party. What I would like to see is if you could stop the games. I have extolled many many times what we should do as experimental proof. But again where is your device? Ahh here is the question. What are you looking for? An early paycheck?

I don't share the same visions of it like Bearden. Although some of his attempt to understand this stuff does seem correct.

The understanding about Voltage is that if it did not exist, WE would not exist. Understanding how voltage leads current gives great understanding. It is the potential to move that creates movement. Of course division of that voltage field and how one end of that division knows what the other potential is. Everything is in this voltage field. And everything gives potential to the whole field. if electrical potential didn't exist then NOTHING would exist. If there was no potential field then nothing in side of our container would have a direct connection to itself. It is via the electrical potential network that dictates EVERYTHING in nature. All the flows of gases and masses in space is due to currents provided by potential differences. Even if the masses and gasses were not there there would be flows but this does have an effect on the flows strength and density. Matter seems to compress the incompressible fluid that fills normal space. This is where all the energy comes from in an atom. Not from the atom itself but from the displacement of the medium it floats in. The medium gives everything a standing voltage. Those voltages are very real and highly convertible to other forms of energy like say current to an led. The energy was never in the matter, the energy is everywhere but in matter.

These are not new concepts. Only rehashed and refined by the likes of Tesla and a great many others. I would not like to name them all so the most familiar I wrote. Don't get me wrong there are tons out there. In most cases buried and scorned by the likes of you.

You make light of these things but others take it rather harshly at the treatment you put forth. Others have said it best that you get more babies with sugary candies then you do with vinegar shots. But you know that already don't you?

Take it for what it is worth but the old science(current theories) was not completely truthful, nor do they explain all the great wonders we are seeing here and out there.. *Points to the stars*

Given that there are a new bunch of new scientists who by the way are doing valid experiments to back up their claims. One by one the known "Laws" are falling by the wayside. Junk science never wins in the end.

Even by your own gods of science they agree that this universe is full to the max with energetic events. All of these events spawn newer events and so on... Learning to spot the events is a major key. Once we can show the flows it won't be long before we are inducing energy from the wheel work just like Tesla did at Niagara Falls.

Again what is in between for you? How can spooky action at a distance be described but by something in between to convey that action to that distance? If there is something there then there must be a better way to harness that something for which our current theories shun.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 06, 2014, 12:32:01 AM

Quote from: Google on April 05, 2014, 01:16:54 PM
I have said many times that no one will tell you their truth here. Infact everyone in his own right is a clever disinpho agent here of their own will. Fooling others specially the newbies who join to learn.

So dont expect and do your own research and use your judgement to decipher gold from crap.

:D

Wrong, it is about how your VP of what the truth is, everyone tell their truth,
with or without their awareness, as you can see it ::) ::) ::) :-X

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 06, 2014, 01:33:45 AM

Quote from: jbignes5 on April 05, 2014, 11:59:07 PM
Nope not sharing with you. See it doesn't matter what I think, the only thing that matters is what IS. What is, is your problem. You can not hide it anymore. We are finding out what really is and no you are not invited to the party. What I would like to see is if you could stop the games. I have extolled many many times what we should do as experimental proof. But again where is your device? Ahh here is the question. What are you looking for? An early paycheck?

I don't share the same visions of it like Bearden. Although some of his attempt to understand this stuff does seem correct.

The understanding about Voltage is that if it did not exist, WE would not exist. Understanding how voltage leads current gives great understanding. It is the potential to move that creates movement. Of course division of that voltage field and how one end of that division knows what the other potential is. Everything is in this voltage field. And everything gives potential to the whole field. if electrical potential didn't exist then NOTHING would exist. If there was no potential field then nothing in side of our container would have a direct connection to itself. It is via the electrical potential network that dictates EVERYTHING in nature. All the flows of gases and masses in space is due to currents provided by potential differences. Even if the masses and gasses were not there there would be flows but this does have an effect on the flows strength and density. Matter seems to compress the incompressible fluid that fills normal space. This is where all the energy comes from in an atom. Not from the atom itself but from the displacement of the medium it floats in. The medium gives everything a standing voltage. Those voltages are very real and highly convertible to other forms of energy like say current to an led. The energy was never in the matter, the energy is everywhere but in matter.

These are not new concepts. Only rehashed and refined by the likes of Tesla and a great many others. I would not like to name them all so the most familiar I wrote. Don't get me wrong there are tons out there. In most cases buried and scorned by the likes of you.

You make light of these things but others take it rather harshly at the treatment you put forth. Others have said it best that you get more babies with sugary candies then you do with vinegar shots. But you know that already don't you?

Take it for what it is worth but the old science(current theories) was not completely truthful, nor do they explain all the great wonders we are seeing here and out there.. *Points to the stars*

Given that there are a new bunch of new scientists who by the way are doing valid experiments to back up their claims. One by one the known "Laws" are falling by the wayside. Junk science never wins in the end.

Even by your own gods of science they agree that this universe is full to the max with energetic events. All of these events spawn newer events and so on... Learning to spot the events is a major key. Once we can show the flows it won't be long before we are inducing energy from the wheel work just like Tesla did at Niagara Falls.

Again what is in between for you? How can spooky action at a distance be described but by something in between to convey that action to that distance? If there is something there then there must be a better way to harness that something for which our current theories shun.

Ohhh JB, you just announced that you have a working device and now MIB will find you very soon. I am really scared of the outcomes. Pity ! You can only boast like tito but cant make $$$$$$$$ from your truth.

I dont need your early paycheck, coz I dont work for you. I dont want your party coz my party is better than you. ;D ;D

I have no MIB OR FEDS TO FEAR like you. Oh pity !

I have a sugar candy for you. With a vinegar core inside. ;D ;D ;D

Vinegar dipped ice candy ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 06, 2014, 01:35:53 AM

PS: Nobel Prize Committee is looking for you. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 06, 2014, 01:39:10 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 06, 2014, 12:32:01 AM
Wrong, it is about how your VP of what the truth is, everyone tell their truth,
with or without their awareness, as you can see it ::) ::) ::) :-X

Well said Marsing. Not many people have this art. Congratulations. ;D ;D :-X :-X :-X

Shhhhhhhh....... :-X :-X you will get a PM from Toto Atlas now. Keep :-X :-X

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 06, 2014, 01:46:53 AM

What is the similarity between Ed Leedskalnin and Steven Mark ?

Those who know the answer, know the truth. Those who dont, can come up with their probable versions and I will reveal it to you. ;D ;D

Come on guys, time to think now. And you will find the Cigar. :-X :-X :-X

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 06, 2014, 01:52:39 AM

JB, when I comb my hair I get 10s of thousands of volts but that does nothing. No nada niet niet nill. You need one more thing to make use those volts. And whats that ? No its not what you and everyone is thinking now. 8) 8) 8) :-X :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D You need something else also. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 06, 2014, 03:13:14 AM

Quote from: Google on April 06, 2014, 01:46:53 AM
What is the similarity between Ed Leedskalnin and Steven Mark ?

Those who know the answer, know the truth. Those who dont, can come up with their probable versions and I will reveal it to you. ;D ;D

Come on guys, time to think now. And you will find the Cigar. :-X :-X :-X

think about radio waves , that's the simples answer, but everybody must catch up that as light is variable such as radio waves are full box of variations ....think about sunlight and laser light, what would you use to cut metal?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 06, 2014, 03:38:47 AM

FoRest analogy is good but not the real. ;) :D :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 06, 2014, 03:54:21 AM

Ok lemme spill some beans now : for amplification, you do not need resonance, hv and hf. No don smith no tesla no kapanzde no earthing no antenna.

You need a stable power source, say a car battery. You need pulsing ( DC / AC both will work fine ) and you need lots of copper wire of two different thickness. Thats all. Thats the secret of free energy. Nothing more. But one should know how to use those wires.

Its actually really easy.

Best of luck to all. I am leaving now. Had my share of fun here. Thanks to all. :)

This is my last post on this particular thread. Good luck and good bye. God bless you all. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 06, 2014, 09:20:34 AM

One thing to consider is that many, if not most of these so-called free energy devices have some kind of aerial. In some cases, it can be a wire, coil or metal plate, or even a lead acid battery. The aerial is a kind of first line of interaction with the electrostatic environment. It is what is done "downstream" of this aerial which excites the electrostatic environment and allows radiant energy to pour in through the aerial and into the system. A key factor in this excitement of the electrostatic environment is an ongoing series of "kicks" or pulses, which can be maintained in a variety of ways, the simplest of which is a capacitor.

Take for example, David Bowling's Three Battery Generating System. Put simplistically, the dead lead acid battery is the aerial, and the motor he employs provides the pulsing, and at the proper frequency, this excites the electrostatic environment, allowing energy to flood into the 3BGS.

In the simplest, most basic sense, I believe this is what Tito is doing with coils, caps and diodes.
Edit: What if we were to introduce something like a Joule Thief at some point in the system to help with the kicks?...

@Mr. Teslonian - Thanks for the files. I'm on the road for a few days with work, but will go thru them.

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 06, 2014, 11:57:46 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on April 06, 2014, 09:20:34 AM
One thing to consider is that many, if not most of these so-called free energy devices have some kind of aerial. In some cases, it can be a wire, coil or metal plate, or even a lead acid battery. The aerial is a kind of first line of interaction with the electrostatic environment. It is what is done "downstream" of this aerial which excites the electrostatic environment and allows radiant energy to pour in through the aerial and into the system. A key factor in this excitement of the electrostatic environment is an ongoing series of "kicks" or pulses, which can be maintained in a variety of ways, the simplest of which is a capacitor.

Take for example, David Bowling's Three Battery Generating System. Put simplistically, the dead lead acid battery is the aerial, and the motor he employs provides the pulsing, and at the proper frequency, this excites the electrostatic environment, allowing energy to flood into the 3BGS.

In the simplest, most basic sense, I believe this is what Tito is doing with coils, caps and diodes.
Edit: What if we were to introduce something like a Joule Thief at some point in the system to help with the kicks?...

@Mr. Teslonian - Thanks for the files. I'm on the road for a few days with work, but will go thru them.

Bob

like dc hv ionizer flyback from tv is ac dont know of ignition coil a slayer tesla coil electrostatic charge ????

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 06, 2014, 10:46:21 PM

Sorry, i was between flights, couldnt post something good I found. Morays Swedish Stone was nothing but Silicon Monoxide. No more mystry about it. Nothing radioactive about it.

The second important disclosure is again making me angry >:( and sad :(. Again an impotant page has been removed by rexresearch. http://www.rexresearch.com/feg/feg2.htm

There is a company called Xtec who has designed an antenna which amplifies energy. Can someone backtrack the lost rexresearch page and post it here. Better convert it to pdf file and upload it here.

Think big all please. Petty thinking of holding small small secrets will never lead to something big. I am sure most of you will agree.

I could have easily not disclosed the above and most of you would never have known about it but I think differently. Its not my discovery hence everyone has a right to information on it. And thats what these forums are all about if you agree.

Only a collective team effort will only bring results. I am travelling much these days and unable to post much, but will post everything that will surely open our third eye.

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 06, 2014, 11:27:40 PM

Attached.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on April 06, 2014, 11:54:34 PM

Magnified:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7954244/The-Manual-of-Free-Energy-Devices-and-Systems-1991

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 07, 2014, 12:06:40 AM

Help much appreciated Cap Z ro :)

---Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 07, 2014, 06:15:06 AM

Maximum man made radio frequency disturbances are in the band of 3-5 khz and maximum during daytime. Although they are radio frequency ULF range, yet not created by the radio stations. A lot of free energy device makers have exploited this phenomenon since long. They have termed it as Aetheric energy, but its not. Its again man made. Moray and Hendershot exploited this phenomenon.

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on April 07, 2014, 10:00:07 AM

Quote from: Mr. Teslonian on April 06, 2014, 10:46:21 PM
...
The second important disclosure is again making me angry >:( and sad :( . Again an important page has been removed by rexresearch. http://www.rexresearch.com/feg/feg2.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/feg/feg2.htm)

There is a company called Xtec who has designed an antenna which amplifies energy. Can someone backtrack the lost rexresearch page and post it here.
...

Here is the wayback machine link to that full page:

http://web.archive.org/web/20140208020914/http://rexresearch.com/feg/feg2.htm

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 07, 2014, 10:02:06 AM

Manmade disturbances create 3-5 khz radio waves.

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 07, 2014, 10:04:08 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on April 07, 2014, 10:00:07 AM
Here is the wayback machine link to that full page:

http://web.archive.org/web/20140208020914/http://rexresearch.com/feg/feg2.htm

Gyula

So sweet of you Gyula.

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 07, 2014, 10:09:02 AM

Before the page is lost again.
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NOVFEBMAR820132014201570 captures13 Apr 02 - 8 Feb 14CloseHelprexresearch.com Free Energy Generators (#2)Lajos Szucs: Magnetic Field Motor Xtec: Power Amplifying Antenna K-Capture Generator Nikola Tesla: Electric CarDemocrat & Chronicle (Rochester NY) Sept 14, 1991"Top Secret Idea Keeps Dream Alive"Skeptics scoff but inventor sure it worksby Christine RookIn the 13th century, Villard de Honnecourt, a French architect designed a weighted wheel that was to turn forever without the benefit of an external power source. The concept was sure to change the world, but it never worked, and neither has any perpetual motion machine that followed.Now, an Irondequoit man believes he has invented a motor that actually does run indefinitely and with no outside power source. Scientists are skeptical. They stand behind the laws of thermodynamics, but a t least one person said he has seen it work.Lajos "Louie" Szucs, a Hungarian-born auto repairman, has invented what he calls a magnetic field motor. He said it is powerful enough to drive a heater and warm most of his two-story home. Its source of start is a single jump-start from a 12-volt car battery. That one-time jolt supposedly powered it for 60 days."It doesn't matter whether I got a high school education. You got to use your mind", he said in broken English at his home on St. Paul Blvd. "If Newton thought we fly to the moon, he would drop dead right here."Few people, however, have seen how the motor works. It wasn't operating last week. He had taken it apart and hidden the pieces in his house. He fears someone will steal his idea because only the heater attachments that hook to the motor have patent pending status with the US Government Patent & Trademark Office in Arlington VA.The motor, however, does not have patent pending status and could be claimed by someone else. Szucs, therefore, is cryptic when he talks about the motor. He has barely given the details to his financial backer and partner, Ronald A. Englert. And a handful of trusted friends have sealed envelopes, containing partial blueprints. If something were to happen to Szucs, the envelopes get sent to specific destinations.It's all cloak-and-dagger and probably the result of his losing one of his earliest inventions to a stranger for $15. Szucs had developed a set of special automobile tools when he first came to the United States in 1956. Szucs naively handed over the rights."He thanks me for making him rich", Szucs said.He was just a teenager then but willing to work hard and bounce back. He and his wife, Magdalan, had left Communist Hungary for a better life.They settled in Glens Falls, Warren County, because a church there had sponsored their transport. But they remained just six months. Neither of them spoke English and job opportunities were scarce. They agreed to get on a bus and get out at the first large city. That was Rochester."It was a tough time for the first 5 or 10 years", Szucs said. "Very few people helped us."But the Budapest native earned a good reputation as an auto body repariman.Englert, who said he has witnessed the perpetual motion machine work, stands behind Szucs and his inventions -- the magnetic-driven toys that Szucs developed for his son, Lajos Jr, an air compressor, and a car wax.Szucs has since decided to follow his dream full time and leave the auto repair business. He breathes and sleeps inventions. Some, like the perpetual motion machine, have actually come to him in dreams."I see the universe. It's like blueprints, a puzzle", Szucs said. "When I get up in the morning, it's all there."His motor seems simple enough. A car battery puts a triangular driving shaft in motion and is then removed. The spinning shaft then runs a heater. Szucs said he has reduced his home heating bills from $300 to $400 a month to $45 or less per month.Szucs, a high school graduate, doesn't claim to understand everything about physics. He only knows that his machine works.What he finds difficult to accept is the cold reception that scientists have given him. Most believe a perpetual motion machine is impossible."The likelihood? Zero", says Robert Snyder, a professor of mechanical engineering at Rochester Institute of Technology. "It violates the laws of thermodynamics."Physics professor Ronald Jodoin, also of RIT, added: "I would be skeptical."In reality, Szucs may not have a perpetual motion machine. He may simply have an extra-efficient motor. In fact, Szucs' lawyer, Howard J. Greenwald indicated Szucs may not make and perpetual motion claims in his patent application.Szucs refuses to give up on his machine."I can't take failure. This is failure if someone tells you it doesn't work."Szucs' Patent (PDF Format, Requires Adboe Reader):USP # 5,131,461Heating Apparatus7-21-1992Lajos SzucsApplicant: Ronald Englert Classification: - international: F24D5/00; F28D1/047; F24D5/00; F28D1/04; (IPC1-7): F28F13/14 - european: F24D5/00; F28D1/047F Application number: US19910675440 19910326 Priority number(s): US19910675440 19910326Abstract ~ A heater which is preferably rated at about 1,500 watts is described. This heater contains at least three separate heat exchangers; each of the heat exchangers contains heat exchanger tubes, and each of the heat exchangers contains a different fluid capacity. A blower passes cold air, in sequence, past the first heat exchanger, then past the second heat exchanger, and then past the third heat exchanger. At the same time, a pump forces a heated heat-exchange medium through the third heat exchanger, through the second heat exchanger, and then through the first heat exchanger."Antenna claimed to amplify energy from mystery source" (Unidentified source, early 1980s)A Connecticut research company, Xtec Inc of New Britain, has announced the development of an invention that is claimed to have demonstrated the ability to amplify energy from conventional sources by using a specially-designed antenna to gather external power from the environment.According to an independent consultant who has reviewed the Xtech research to date: " What has been witnessed appears to be an energy absorption effect with the capability of tapping energy from an as yet unidentified outside source to do the required work. Proper understanding and useful application of this device will require more precise and quantitative investigation and experimentation."Xtec describes its "energy amplifier" as a relatively simple device which extracts energy from the environment and utilizes it to supplement or amplify the power from an independent power supply such as a battery. "It uses a specially-designed antenna to gather this external power, which has been successfully applied in laboratory tests to power a metal-cutting lathe and an industrial tricycle." A patent application has been filed with the US Patent Office, and additional patent coverage is in preparation for all major industrial nations on a worldwide basis.Extec [sic] says that utilizing an antenna to draw in or amplify power is well known, and quotes US Patent # 2,813,242 [L.R. Crump: Powering Electrical Devices with Energy Abstracted from the Atmosphere] as demonstrating that energy can be extracted from the atmosphere through a properly designed antenna to provide useful power. Also that this patent shows that electromagnetic energy was captured in sufficient quantities to drive a transistor circuit.In the Xtec device an antenna operates as an dependent power supply for the system. An input signal turns on the power amplifying antenna which draws on the potential between two points in the environment to complete a circuit through a form of inductive coupling. The result is amplified energy for the load to be driven. It has been postulated that the energy being tapped exists between the antenna and either low frequency ground currents, or an external pulsing magnetic field. This has yet to be proven, and Xtec has initiated a full-scale research program to investigate the phenomenon.Xtec says that tests of this previously unknown principle were not intended to prove theories underlying the energy amplifier in a controlled, rigorously scientific manner, but that they do demonstrate a definite energy enhancement as well as the ability to recharge the batteries being used as the independent power supply to drive the energy amplifier.The ongoing research program seeks to define this phenomenon further and to indicate direction for practical commercial development of the enhanced energy which the amplifier produces.Xtec Incorporated is a privately held research firm currently engaged in several energy-saving projects. It is supported by Stampede Internal Resources, Ltd., a publicly-held company with extensive interests in natural gas exploration and in industrial energy-saving technology through its subsidiary Turbotech Products Inc.X-Tech: 533 John Downey Drive, New Britain, CT 06051; 203-224-3148/203-224-2409K-Capture GeneratorThe Solid State K-capture Generator is a computer controlled system that utilizes the "K-Capture" principle to create electrical energy.K-capture has been known to give off tremendous amounts of energy but no one had discovered away to control the energy. The K-capture Generator does this and may prove to be one of the greatest source of energy discovered.Unshielded, it does emit x-ray particles.The prototype models (for manufacturing) were expected to produce a constant electrical current of at least 50kw and was predicted to handle surges and heavier loads of over 200kw for one to two hours before it heated up to a temperature that would automatically shut the power off. If this were to occur, there would be no harm sustained by the unit, but would have to be restarted when the unit's temperature lowers to approximately 60 F.Most American homes average 5 to 7 kw per day. However, a 100% electrically powered house could have peak usage of up to 35kw. With normal power usage, 50kw could handle from three to ten homes, depending on size and peak demand. Very few small commercial operations would ever require more than 50kw to supply their needs, if more power is required an additional unit or units could be added. Each one would operate as a standby unit and supply the required power without losing power as each one began its operation.One unit measures approximately 2' x 2' x 6' but can also be made smaller by using a different configuration when fitting the component parts together.On a standard basis, the unit normally supplies 5kw of AC power and 45kw of DC power. This can be altered by the use of external inverters, transformers, etc.It is estimated that under normal conditions that the fuel used will last over one million years. However, since it does use other non-moving components, it is expected to have malfunctions in such things as computer controls, diodes, capacitors, etc. When this occurs replacement would be required and the unit would have to be restarted. Starting the unit requires 120 volts and 400 watts [@3.33 amps]. The power available is on an "as needed" basis and if all power was shut-off, there would be no harm to the unit.The theory herein described is used as a power source by creating a radionuclide by K-capture.The process to reach this goal is initiated by producing a high intensity ultra-violet burst to cause an irregular condition where the K electrons in lithium isotope-6, creates a condition where K-capture is possible. The ultra-violet burst is produced with a nitrogen laser. It has been known for some time that a high voltage discharge and high current electric discharge in nitrogen gas will generate a pulse of coherent radiation at 3,371 angstroms. The laser action encounters an electron moving in the discharge, absorbing its energy. The encounter leaves the molecule in an unstable state. It usually falls to a state of lower energy by emitting a photon at 3,371 angstroms.The photon may encounter other excited molecules causing them to emit their energy in lock step with the encountering photon. The resulting pulse of radiation has twice the energy of each photon. This is laser action. The process continues as long as there are excited molecules along the path. The process soon stops because when a large number of molecules are excited, they wil1 begin to cascade at random to lower states of energy. The numbers of molecules at lower 1evels build up rapidly, eventually exceeding those at upper levels and terminating the amplification.The laser quickly turns itself off even though there are excited molecules left behind. The turn off time is fast, usually less than ten-nanoseconds.Inducing laser action in nitrogen is dependent on constructing a mechanism that will instantaneously send a huge current of electrons at high voltage laterally through a column of the gas at a pressure of about 100 torr. An appropriate switching mechanism that can handle tens of thousands of amperes within nanoseconds turns out to be quite simple both in principle and in construction.No laser mirrors are needed, the optical gain of the rapid discharge is so large that the emission becomes super-radiant, that laser action takes place without an optical cavity.Ultraviolet lasers can be scaled to higher powers. A discharge path one meter long will develop an output pu1se of almost one million watts. Output is emitted from both ends of the column of excited gas, but a mirror at one end will more than double the power at the other end.K-Capture Technical Information ~In some instances, where the ratio of neutrons to protons is low, a type of decay has been found to exist. Where a proton is converted to a neutron in the nucleus by the capture of one of the extranuclear (orbital) electrons, thus: Proton + electron - neutron + neutrino Mass 1 0 1 0 Charge +1 -1 0 0with a neutrino being formed at the same time. The product of this type of radioactivity would have the same number as its parent, but its atomic number would be one unit lower. The decay of the unstable Fe55 is by orbital electron capture, and can be represented by the equation26Fe55 + -1e0 -- 25mn55The electron 0 which is captured by the iron nucleus being indicated by -1e0 on the left-hand side.The phenomenon described is referred to as a decay by electron capture. The electron is captured usually from the K level, or first quantum level, for such an electron is likely to be found near the nucleus; consequently, the expression K-electron capture, or K-capture is often employed. Instances of an electron being captured from the second quantum level, or L level, is not unknown although they are not common. The possibility of electron capture was predicted by the Japanese mathematical physicists H.Yukawa and S. Sakata in 1936. Proof of its reality was obtained in the United States by L. W. Alvarez in 1938.The detection of K-capture is dependent on the fact that the removal of a K-electron leaves a hole in the K quantum level. An electron from a higher quanta level will move in to fill the position, with the excess energy being emitted as a characteristic X-ray. Since K-capture precedes the electrons' transition and the emission of X rays, the X-ray will be the characteristic of the product nucleus with an atomic number one unit less. A case of this is Vanadium-49. The decay was found to be accompanied by the characteristic X-rays of the K series of the element of titanium. It is evident that Vanadium-49 decays by K-capture.When a Lithium-6 atom encounters an ultraviolet photon adding enough energy to cause a K-capture, its atomic number is changed and becomes a Helium-6 atom. Helium-6 is a radionuclide having a beta emission of 3.58 MeV. No other radiation is present except for a characteristic X-ray of Helium.Beta particles are captured in a magnetic field and stored in a capacitor bank before using their energy to do work.The number of reactions needed to produce a sizeable current flow is small.In the terms of energy needs, the usefulness of this process is clear.Tesla's Electric CarExcerpt from: "The Forgotten Art of Electric-Powered Automobiles" by Arthur Abrom..But, back to our electric automobiles -- in 1931, under the financing of Pierce-Arrow and George Westinghouse, a 1931 Pierce-Arrow was selected to be tested at the factory grounds in Buffalo, NY. The standard internal combustion engine was removed and an 80-hp 1800 rpm electric motor installed to the clutch and transmission. The AC motor measured 40 inches long and 30 inches in diameter and the power leads were left standing in the air -- no external power source!At the appointed time, Nikola Tesla arrived from New York City and inspected the Pierce-Arrow automobile. He then went to a local radio store and purchased a handful of tubes (12), wires and assorted resistors. A box measuring 24 inches long, 12 inches wide and 6 inches high was assembled housing the circuit. The box was placed on the front seat and had its wires connected to the air-cooled, brushless motor. Two rods 1/4" in diameter stuck out of the box about 3" in length.Mr. Tesla got into the driver's seat, pushed the two rods in and stated, "We now have power". He put the car into gear and it moved forward! This vehicle, powered by an AC motor, was driven to speeds of 90 mph. and performed better than any internal combustion engine of its day! One week was spent testing the vehicle. Several newspapers in Buffalo reported this test. When asked where the power came from, Tesla replied, "From the ethers all around us". Several people suggested that Tesla was mad and somehow in league with sinister forces of the universe. He became incensed, removed his mysterious box from the vehicle and returned to his laboratory in New York City. His secret died with him!It is speculated that Nikola Tesla was able to somehow harness the earth's magnetic field that encompasses our planet. And, he somehow was able to draw tremendous amounts of power by cutting these lines of force or causing them to be multiplied together. The exact nature of his device remains a mystery but it did actually function by powering the 80 hp AC motor in the Pierce Arrow at speeds up to 90 m.p.h. and no recharging was ever necessary!~~~~~~~"Information about an Invention by Dr. Nikola Tesla, which is said to have harnessed Cosmic Energy" (Unidentified document circulated in the early 1980s)The following is a summary of an interview on 16 September 1967 of Peter Savo, a nephew of Dr. Nikola Tesla, by Derek Ahlers, an aeronautical engineer. An attempt was made to record Peter's answers to 36 questions prepared in advance. However, Peter talked very freely, in a somewhat rambling fashion, and repeatedly provided the answers before the questions were asked. In addition, since Mr Savo and Mr Ahlers have known each other for some 10 years, the subject had previously been discussed and some of this earlier information is included.Peter Savo was born in Knim, Yugoslavia, just before the turn of the century. As Yugoslavia was then a part of Austria, he entered the Austrian army and learned to fly at the military flying school at Wiener Neustadt. After World War 1 he emigrated to Italy.Dr Nikola Tesla was Peter's uncle on his mother's side. It was he who suggested that Peter come to the United States. He met Peter at the boat on arrival and seems to have taken a fatherly interest in him until his death...Sometime in 1931, Dr Tesla took Peter to Buffalo, NY for the unveiling and final testing of a new kind of automobile. Dr. Tesla acted somewhat mysteriously about it, would tell Peter nothing in advance, and even after he had seen the car, answered some of his questions with "Don't as any questions".The car turned out to be a standard Pierce Arrow, with the engine removed and certain other components installed instead. The standard Clutch, gear box and drive train remained installed.Under the hood, there was a brushless electric motor, connected to the engine [?]. The engine was said to measure 40" long by 28" diameter. However, some of these figures may be estimates. Tesla would not divulge who made the motor.Set into the dash was a "power receiver" consisting of a box measuring about 24" long by 10" wide by 6" high, containing 12 radio tubes. Three of these tubes were model 70-L-7. A vertical antenna consisting of a 6-foot rod, was installed and connected to the power receiver.The receiver, in turn, was connected to the motor by two heavy, conspicuous cables. Two "spindles" (rods?) about 1/4" diameter by 3" long protruded form the receiver towards the driver. Tesla pushed these in before starting and said: "We now have power". These spindles were in line with the two power cables coming out of the back of the unit and presumable worked to separate power switches.There was a 12-volt Willard battery installed in the car, but it was for the lights only and much too small to run the car. In any case, the motor was an AC motor.Peter said that Dr Tesla had built the power receiver himself in his hotel room, and carried it to Buffalo. The motor was built for him by some unknown company. The motor was completely enclosed and when Peter first saw it, it was stopped. Later, after the engine was running, Dr Tesla asked Peter to look under the hood to check whether the fan was running. Peter asked what the fan was for and was told that "The engine is running pretty hot". Maximum engine speed was 1800 rpm. Power rating was 80 hp.To start the car, Dr Tesla handed Peter an ignition-type key. Peter inserted it and a green light came on, on the dash. Dr Tesla thereupon said: "The engine is now in motion". The engine could not be heard from the driver's seat at all. When listening under the hood with the engine on, there was a slight hum. The standard accelerator pedal was used to control engine speed. Clutch, brake and gearshift were unchanged.The instruments on the dash appeared to be standard ones. However, there was a voltmeter which was used to measure output of the receiver. Dr Tesla commented that the receiver had enough reserve power so that you could drive the car next to a house, connect the wiring, and light up the whole house. There was also some kind of hydraulic pressure gauge on the dash. Peter asked its purpose but Dr Tesla would not tell him.Peter drove the car for about 50 miles at speeds up to 90 mph (the speedometer was calibrated to 120 mph). Power seemed at least as good as the normal Pierce Arrow engine. Acceleration in second gear seemed particularly good. Shifting gears seemed somewhat smoother than with a normal engine.Dr Tesla seemed enthusiastic on the first test ride and said, "Peter, this day will make history!" When Peter questioned the source of the energy to drive the car, Dr Tesla said: "It is a mysterious radiation that comes out of the ether." He said that he did not know where it came from but that it seemed to be available in limitless quantitites and that mankind should be thankful for it as it would soon drive boats, cars, trains and planes. Dr Tesla and Peter spent 8 days in Buffalo, testing the car. Peter described on incident where they stopped the car at a traffic light and a bystander commented that he could see no smoke coming from the exhaust. Peter replied to him: "We don't have an engine". When they left Buffalo, Dr Tesla removed the "ignition" key and the radio tubes and took them with him. The car was left at a farmhouse some 20 miles from Buffalo, not far from Niagara Falls.The car was kept under tight security and this was the reason for keeping it at such a remote spot. Peter heard a rumor that a secretary of Tesla's broke security and told General Electric about it and promptly got fired. Dr Tesla acted somewhat mysterious and would not answer many of Peter's questions. However, Peter considers this merely part of security measures and categorically ruled out any possibility of a hoax or practical joke.Peter knows of no specific persons to whom the car was shown. However, about a month after the Buffalo trip e got a phone call form Dr Lee De Forest who asked him: "How did you like that car?" Peter expressed his enthusiasm and De Forest then called Tesla one of the greatest living scientists.About 7 years ago Peter was approached by a Yugoslav diplomat then at the United Nations (Peter could not remember the name but has a record of it) who asked if he could find the engine and power receiver of that car. He dropped the name Rockefeller and said that they "could make millions" if they had this engine to copy. Peter made some attempts to comply, but without results. Peter is very anti-Tito and probably did not try very hard. The diplomat died about two years ago.Asked whether he knew of any other applications of this type of power, Peter said that Tesla was negotiating with some big shipbuilding concern to build a boat with such an engine. However, when he asked questions about this, Dr Tesla got annoyed and Peter never found out who the company was.When asked whatever happened to the car, Peter said that he had heard that it had been shipped to Yugoslavia. However, he has written to friends in Yugoslavia about this and they replied that nothing ever arrived.Upon being asked whether there was any possibility that drawings of the car might be in existence somewhere, Peter said there was a man in some town in Pennsylvania who might just have such information.Peter Savo is a lonely, bored old man, living in a cheap Manhattan hotel and supported by his two sons who are US Navy pilots in Viet Nam. His idleness and worries have induced a nervous condition with certain accompanying physical symptoms. I told Peter that he needed an aim and purpose in life and that reconstructing the facts of Dr Tesla's invention and giving them to eh world would be such a purpose, to say nothing of a probable financial reward. Peter thereupon said that he would phone the man in Pennsylvania and would phone others in Akron Ohio and in Chicago. He will also write to his relatives in Yugoslavia, who are surviving members of the Tesla family, to get all possible information.Since Peter was very poorly off financially, I gave his $20 out of my own pocket for the phone calls and postage. Peter is quite intelligent but lacks a formal education and has quite a thick accent. It is possible that he may be unable to reach the people he has in mind. However, in that event, it is still possible that a search by an experienced investigator who visits the places mentioned above, might locate them. However, this would of course cost more money and the question would then arise as to who has sufficient interest in this information to pay the expenses...Excerpts from Keelynet BBS Posts on this topic ~Some fellow called up from Indiana or somewhere like that.. He says he has a fairly detailed article on the TESLA mystery power box as detailed in TESLAFE.ZIP... claims there were only three tubes and they were all BEAM RECTIFIER TYPES, hell he even gave us the tube numbers (70L7GT)...Re: The beam rectifier tubes reportedly used in Tesla's box... rectification implies the reception of an AC signal, which might imply that Tesla had another "toy" nearby broadcasting power, albeit on a smaller scale than some of his earlier projects. We believe this to indicate a smaller Wardenclyffe but there is no evidence of this....The following data is copied verbatim from the 1964 RCA Receiving Tube Manual. The 70L7GT is listed as a discontinued type so the wonderful descriptions of other tubes in the manual is unavailable for this type; however, a table of discontinued types at the back of the manual provided the following. The diagram is, of course, irreproducible in ASCII but it looks like a very ordinary keyed octal glass tube of its period, at 1-3/16" diameter, 2-7/8" high (above chassis). It does not possess a metal "tit" at the top. It appears that it's a dedicated-application tube for radio receivers (it both rectifies and amplifies, cutting down on tube count and saving manufacturing dollars), so I am immediately skeptical about any real significance to this type. There are related types, including the 117L7GT, but no direct substitution. Antique Electronic Supply in Tempe AZ apparently stocks this tube. The tube, used as indicated, appears very ordinary, however we can assume that Tesla did not exactly follow RCA recommended application tolerances (i.e. he hacked it).70L7GT : RECTIFIER - BEAM POWER TUBE Heater Voltage: 70 V Heater Current: 150 mAUse(s): Amplifier Unit as Class A Amplifier... Half Wave RectifierCHARACTERISTICS AS AMPLIFIERPlate Supply : 110 V Grid Bias Volts : -7.5 V Screen Supply : 110 V Screen Current : 3.0 mA Plate Current : 40.0 mA AC Plate Resistance : 15000 ohm Transconductance : 7500 microomhs Amplification Factor : Load for Power Output: 2000 ohm Power Output : 1.8 WCHARACTERISTICS AS RECTIFIERMax. Peak Inverse Volts: 350 V Max. DC Output mA : 70 mA Max. Peak Plate mA : 420 mA Minimum Total Effective Plate Supply Impedance : 10 ohmThe following are the details as removed from the file TESLAFE1 :The standard internal combustion engine was removed and an 80-HP 1800 rpm electric motor installed to the clutch and transmission. The AC motor measured 40 inches long and 30 inches in diameter and the power leads were left standing in the air --- no external power source!He then went to a local radio store and purchased a handful of tubes (12), wires and assorted resistors. A box measuring 24 inches long, 12 inches wide and 6 inches high was assembled housing the circuit. The box was placed on the front seat and had its wires connected to the air-cooled, brushless motor. Two rods 1/4" in diameter stuck out of the box about 3" in length."We will first of all note the use of an AC coil motor. This alone tells us that the Tesla device was superior and not so dependent on tuning as was Moray's machine which could only power RESISTIVE loads. All universal energy moves in WAVES and so is essentially for alternating current (AC). That is why Moray called his book "THE SEA OF ENERGY IN WHICH THE EARTH FLOATS". The entire universe is continually bathed in these AC energies and they cover the entire frequency spectrum.What intrigues the hell out of me was how Tesla could use "off-the-shelf" vacuum tubes and other components, put them together in the correct configuration and make it work.Another point we should note is the list of components : 1) 12 Vacuum Tubes 2) Wires 3) Assorted Resistors 4) 1/4" diameter rods 3" in lengthNOTE, NO CAPACITORS! The wires could have been simply for connection or wound as coils. The 1/4" rods were either BUS BARS for power output taps OR more likely ANTENNAS! Resonant circuits can be constructed using several techniques. You can achieve the same effect from : 1) Resistors AND capacitors 2) Capacitors AND coils 3) Coils AND resistorsSo, in the case of the Tesla Power Box, he either wound his own coils or simply used the wire to connect the resistors with the vacuum tubes. I am of the opinion that he used the wire ONLY for connection and DID NOT USE COILS! I also think he used a DIODE somewhere in the circuit in order to tap ONLY one polarity.We have no specifications for the AC motor that Tesla used in the auto, so we have no idea if it was single or polyphase. In the case of a single phase motor, it only requires a single winding which projects a magnetic field that rotates according to the increase or decrease of the alternating current.A polyphase (poly = two or more) motor uses multiple windings which are fed by phased input currents that alternate in such a manner as to reinforce each other. In the case of a 3 phase motor, the currents are phased 120 degrees apart. This gives much greater torque to the motor but requires 3 times the current because it uses 3 times the input energy.Since the box powered an AC (coil) motor, it is probable it was TUNED to one or more frequencies, most likely polyphased frequencies. So, if the 3" long rods were in fact ANTENNAS, we can calculate their frequency by using the following :(I cannot express Lambda here so we will use w for wavelength)w = wavelength v = velocity of propagation f = signal frequencyA short example: w = v / f = wavelength in feet w = 984,000,000/1,500,000 = 656 feet f = 984,000,000/656 = 1,500,000 or 1.5 MHZ3 inches x 4 = 1 foot 984,000,000/1 = 984,000,000 984,000,000/4 = 246,000,000 or 246 MHZThis would indicate the 3" rods (if they were truly 3" in length and functioning as antennas) would resonate at 246 MHZ.Because of the parts list description, I am of the opinion that it was a DUAL circuit. That is, 6 vacuum tubes and one 1/4" diameter 3" rod along with assorted resistors were to pick up and "pump" ONLY the positive going signals, while the other 6 vacuum tubes, rod and resistors did the same for the negative going signals. Such a scheme could either use PARALLEL or SERIAL connections of the vacuum tubes. Since current conduction is proportional to surface area, one would think that a parallel arrangement of the vacuum tubes with all INPUTS connected to one antenna source and all OUTPUTS connected to a common terminal attached to the load, would provide for the MAXIMUM current flow from incoming energy waves.The nature of these "energy waves" is the question here. Are they cosmic rays, electrostatic, Schumann peaks, magnetic force, something "other" or Aether flow into the neutral centers of mass as per Keely.Vacuum tube construction takes several forms. Of these, the simplest is two plates separated by a grid wire. When the bottom plate is heated, thermally induced ions (thermionic emissions) are emitted by the bottom plate. The grid can be biased by the application of voltage to increase, decrease or halt the flow of these ions to the upper plate.Other forms include more plates with more grids to allow better control of the ion flow. By proper biasing, vacuum tubes can be operated as switches, modulators or amplifiers among other uses.Vacuum tubes operate primarily with high voltages that control the ion flows. Modern transistors are equivalent to vacuum tubes except that they operate using CURRENT instead of voltage. Transistors equate to Vacuum tubes by the following comparisons :Vacuum Tube ~ Transistor ~ Polarity Voltage ~ Current Lower plate ~ Emitter ~ negative-cathode Grid ~ Base ~ neutral Upper plate ~ Collector ~ Positive-anodeIn the case of the Tesla Power Box, the vacuum tube appears to function as a "pump", collecting incoming current in the form of ion intensification. Once this "compressed" ion field reaches a certain density, the pump allows it to be released into the next stage of the circuit, be it the actual load or another vacuum tube.So if the circuit is 6 vacuum tubes in parallel, all fed from a common antenna, outputting to a common load terminal, then the common antenna input would feed all vacuum tubes with the same wave. This would give the greatest CURRENT accumulation because of the EXPANDED SURFACE AREA of the paralleled tubes.Note, these vacuum tubes most likely operate in the "cold cathode" mode since the heaters of the vacuum tubes were not fed by any outside voltage to provide the heat for the more orthodox therionic emission.If the vacuum tubes are hooked in series, then one "pump" would feed another "pump" to get successively higher densities of electrons. This would give higher VOLTAGES because of increased PRESSURE.Keep in mind that electricity is much like air or water. We can think of voltage as pounds per square inch (PSI) and current as cubic feet per minute (CFM). That is PSI is pressure, CFM is flow. Another analog is comparing a river to electricity. In such a comparison, the speed of the river is the VOLTAGE or pressure while the width of the river is the CURRENT or rate of flow. Such a comparison shows WHY current requires THE GREATEST SURFACE AREA for the maximum flow. Fuses function on just this principle, when the current flows over the surface of the fuse, it creates heat. If too much current flows, it creates too much heat causing the fuse to melt and separate. The more surface area the fuse, the greater the amount of current can flow, another reason to not place a penny in a fuse socket.So we have two antennas (1/4" diameter, 3" long rods), two sets of 6 vacuum tubes connected together by wire and assorted resistors. As the waves of energy are collected by the 3" rods, positive on one, negative on another, the energy builds up in the form of increased ions in each of the paralleled vacuum tubes. As in Moray's generator, the circuit will feed whatever load is attached as long as it does not EXCEED the current carrying capacity of the circuit components. What we have is an energy pumping system.Excerpt: Secrets of Cold War Technology --- Project HAARP and Beyond, by Gerry Vassilatos (ISBN 0-945685-20-3); "Tesla's Electric Car" (page 91)Tesla had already considered the condition of charged particles, each representing a tightly constricted whorl of aether. The force necessarily exerted at close distances by such aetheric constrictions was incalculably large. Aetheric ponderance maintained particulate stability.Crystalline lattices were therefore places within which one could expect to find unexpected voltages. Indeed, the high voltages inherent in certain metallic lattices, intra-atomic field energies, are enormous. The close Coulomb gradient between atomic centers are electrostatic potentials reaching humanly unattainable levels.By comparison, the voltages which Tesla once succeeded in releasing were quite insignificant. In these balanced lattices, Tesla sought the voltages needed to initiate directed aetheric streams in matter.Once such a flow began, one could simply tap the stream for power.In certain materials, these ether streams might automatically produce the contaminating electrons, a source of energy for existing appliances. One could theoretically then "tailor" the materials needed to produce unexpected aetheric power with or without the attendant detrimental particles.Tesla did mention the latent aetheric power of charged forces, the explosive potentials of bound Ether, and the aetheric power inherent in matter.By these studies, Tesla sought replacement for the 100,000,000 volt initiating pulses which natural law required for the implementation of space Ether. Tesla had long been forced to abandon those gigantic means by other, less natural laws.Thereafter, Tesla shifted his attentions from the appreciation of the gigantic to an appreciation of the miniature. He sought a means for proliferating an immense number of small and compact aether power receivers.With one such device, Tesla succeeded in obtaining power to drive am electric car. But for the exceptional account which follows, we would have little information on this last period in Tesla's productive life, one which very apparently did not cease its prolific streams of creativity to his last breath.The information comes through an unlikely source, one rarely mentioned by Tesla biographers. It chanced that an aeronautical engineer, Derek Ahlers, met with one of Tesla's nephews then living in New York. Theirs was an acquaintance lasting some 10 years, consisting largely of anecdotal commentaries on Dr. Tesla. Mr. Savo provided an enormous fund of knowledge concerning many episodes in Tesla's last years.Himself an Austrian military man and a trained aviator, Mr. Savo was extremely open about certain long-cherished incidents in which his uncle's genius was consistency made manifest. Mr. Savo reported that in 1931, he participated in an experiment involving aetheric power. Unexpectedly, almost inappropriately, he was asked to accompany his uncle on a long train ride to Buffalo.A few times in this journey, Mr. Savo asked the nature of their journey. Dr. Tesla remained unwilling to disclose any information, speaking rather directly to this issue. Taken into a small garage, Dr. Tesla walked directly to a Pierce Arrow, opened the hood and began making a few adjustments. In place of the engine, there was an AC motor.This measured a little more than 3 feet long, and a little more than 2 feet in diameter. From it trailed two very thick cables which connected with the dashboard. In addition, there was an ordinary 12 volt storage battery. The motor was rated at 80 horsepower.Maximum rotor speed was stated to be 30 turns per second. A 6 foot antenna rod was fitted into the rear section of the car.Dr. Tesla stepped into the passenger side and began making adjustments on a "power receiver" which had been built directly into the dashboard.The receiver, no larger than a short-wave radio of the day, used 12 special tubes which Dr. Tesla brought with him in a boxlike case.The device had been prefitted into the dashboard, no larger than a short-wave receiver. Mr. Savo told Mr. Ahler that Dr. Tesla built the receiver in his hotel room, a device 2 feet in length, nearly 1 foot wide, a 1/2 foot high.These curiously constructed tubes having been properly installed in their sockets, Dr. Tesla pushed in 2 contact rods and informed Peter that power was now available to drive.Several additional meters read values which Dr. Tesla would not explain. Not sound was heard. Dr. Tesla handed Mr. Savo the ignition key and told him to start the engine, which he promptly did. Yet hearing nothing, the accelerator was applied, and the car instantly moved. Tesla's nephew drove this vehicle without other fuel for an undetermined long interval.Mr. Savo drove a distance of 50 miles through the city and out to the surrounding countryside. The car was tested to speeds of 90 mph, with the speedometer rated to 120.After a time, and with increasing distance from the city itself, Dr. Tesla felt free enough to speak. Having now become sufficiently impressed with the performance of both his device and the automobile.Dr. Tesla informed his nephew that the device could not only supply the needs of the car forever, but could also supply the needs of a household - with power to spare. When originally asked how the device worked, Tesla was initially adamant and refused to speak.Many who have read this "apocryphal account" have stated it to be the result of an "energy broadcast". This misinterpretation has simply caused further confusions concerning this stage of Tesla's work. He had very obviously succeeded in performing, with this small and compact device, what he had learned in Colorado and Shoreham.As soon as they were on the country roads, clear of the more congested areas, Tesla began to lecture on the subject. Of the motive source he referred to "a mysterious radiation which comes out of the aether". The small device very obviously and effectively appropriated this energy.Tesla also spoke very glowingly of this providence, saying of the energy itself that "it is available in limitless quantities".Dr. Tesla stated that although "he did not know where it came from, mankind should be very grateful for its presence".The two remained in Buffalo for 8 days, rigorously testing the car in the city and countryside. Dr. Tesla also told Mr. Savo that the device would soon be used to drive boats, planes, trains, and other automobiles. Once, just before leaving the city limits, they stopped at a streetlight and a bystander joyfully commented concerning their lack of exhaust fumes.Mr. Savo spoke up whimsically, saying that they had "no engine". They left Buffalo and traveled to a predetermined location which Dr. Tesla knew, an old farmhouse barn some 20 miles from Buffalo. Dr. Tesla and Mr. Savo left the car in this barn, took the 12 tubes and the ignition key, and departed.Later on, Mr. Savo heard a rumor that a secretary had spoken candidly about both the receiver and the test run, being promptly fired for the security breach. About a month after the incident, Mr. Savo received a call from a man who identified himself as Lee De Forest, who asked how he enjoyed the car.Mr. Savo expressed his joy over the mysterious affair, and Mr. de Forest declared Tesla the greatest living scientist in the world. Later, Mr. Savo asked his uncle whether or not the power receiver was being used in other applications.He was informed that Dr. Tesla had been negotiating with a major shipbuilding company to build a boat with a similarly outfitted engine. Asked additional questions, Dr. Tesla became annoyed. Highly concerned and personally strained over the security of this design, it seems obvious that Tesla was performing these tests in a desperate degree of secrecy for good reasons.Tesla had already been the victim of several manipulations, deadly actions entirely sourced in a single financial house. For this reason, secrecy and care had become his only recent excess.Your Support Maintains this Service -- and Your Survival ...The Civilization Kit ... It's Your Best Bet & Investment in Sustainable Humanity on Earth ... Everything @ rexresearch.com, plus the Bonus Files CD ! << $13, Postpaid Anywhere >> from :Rex Research, POB 19250, Jean, NV 89019 USAORDER PAGE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 07, 2014, 12:04:50 PM

hi all
this is old, March 5, 2011

anyone have back up of K4ZEP video or schematic ?
http://pesn.com/2011/03/05/9501780_Stiffler_Frequency_Amplification_Effect_Replicated/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on April 07, 2014, 02:56:28 PM

Here is the circuit if some one could do it a try...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on April 07, 2014, 03:40:23 PM

Quote from: Mr. Teslonian on April 07, 2014, 10:04:08 AM
So sweet of you Gyula.

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on April 07, 2014, 03:57:21 PM

Quote from: Marsing on April 07, 2014, 12:04:50 PM
hi all
this is old, March 5, 2011

anyone have back up of K4ZEP video or schematic ?
http://pesn.com/2011/03/05/9501780_Stiffler_Frequency_Amplification_Effect_Replicated/ (http://pesn.com/2011/03/05/9501780_Stiffler_Frequency_Amplification_Effect_Replicated/)

Why not ask the guy or dig his posts? http://www.overunity.com/profile/k4zep.50/#.U0L34Ve5Fio (http://www.overunity.com/profile/k4zep.50/#.U0L34Ve5Fio)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 07, 2014, 08:37:15 PM

Quote from: Qwert on April 07, 2014, 03:57:21 PM
Why not ask the guy or dig his posts? http://www.overunity.com/profile/k4zep.50/#.U0L34Ve5Fio (http://www.overunity.com/profile/k4zep.50/#.U0L34Ve5Fio)

Wow, thanks.. for that info.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 07, 2014, 09:19:46 PM

Qwert, Marsing, DJ and all, Its good to see that all are charged up once again. Lets keep the momentum going and find the truth ASAP. Roll your dices men !! We are very near to success. 8)

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on April 07, 2014, 09:30:16 PM

Dr. Stiffler's Youtube profile, 126 videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/StifflerDr/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/StifflerDr/videos)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 07, 2014, 09:36:06 PM

Lets discuss the attached patent now. Anyone on this forum or other forums replicated this ? Please post your ideas of how to convert it into a proper schematic with exact parts and how much energy can be had from this ?

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 07, 2014, 09:58:51 PM

There was a vid I had seen recently, dont remember if it was old or new. The guy had the ant, connected to 2 cap plates, that were I believe on the outer side of 2 plates of a capacitor. The cap plates looked like a copper clad board from Radioshack, as were the ant plates. He used a diode to allow the caps plates build voltage and spark discharge into the secondary of a car spark coil. Then the output ran a light I believe.

I cant for the life of me find that vid. It had shown the circuit, which I remember copying, but cant find either. ???

Has anyone seen a vid like this? The cap plates between the ant plates, the guy pulls them out from between the ant plates and the sparks stop, and he puts the plates back and sparks resume.

This was a very impressive vid and I cant for the life of me find it. Probably the most impressive energy from an ant vid I had ever seen. The way the cap plates were with the ant plates seemed to give an advantage compared to just he ant rectifying to a cap as we have seen many times. This thing was like BAPBAPBAPBAP quick firing sparks. I even went out and bought some thin aluminum plates to construct, but I cannot find the info. Been looking in my YT history, nada. >:(

If anyone has seen this vid, please post it here. Thanks ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 07, 2014, 10:13:35 PM

Are you referring to this one. Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRs1z8g0roU

Woopyjump's replication of Janost's circuit ? The video suggests its a self runner.

http://www.google.co.in/search?q=janost+self+runner+circuit&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=vVtDU5Q7iYqtB7WogbgB&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=800#biv=i%7C0%3Bd%7CWs7tH9Ft0rW1CM%3A

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 07, 2014, 10:30:55 PM

Quote from: Mr. Teslonian on April 07, 2014, 10:13:35 PM
Are you referring to this one. http://Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRs1z8g0roU (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRs1z8g0roU)

Woopyjump's replication of Janost's circuit ? The video suggests its a self runner.

http://www.google.co.in/search?q=janost+self+runner+circuit&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=vVtDU5Q7iYqtB7WogbgB&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=800#biv=i%7C0%3Bd%7CWs7tH9Ft0rW1CM%3A (http://www.google.co.in/search?q=janost+self+runner+circuit&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=vVtDU5Q7iYqtB7WogbgB&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=800#biv=i%7C0%3Bd%7CWs7tH9Ft0rW1CM%3A)

--- Mr. Teslonian

Hey Mr T

No, thats not it. Thanks though. Still looking. Maybe it was removed.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 07, 2014, 11:00:26 PM

Is this the one you were referring to Mags?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JxunfyhtFI&feature=youtu.be
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 07, 2014, 11:32:03 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on April 07, 2014, 11:00:26 PM
Is this the one you were referring to Mags?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JxunfyhtFI&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JxunfyhtFI&feature=youtu.be)
Bob

YES!!!! Thank you Bob. :-* Been banging my head as to where I saw the vid. Cuz it isnt in my history.

Doesnt it seem like a lot of action for an ant circuit???? ;D When Tito would hint towards these devices, my interest was low because of what I 'knew' of the small amount of energy that could be had. But this is no joke. In my opinion anyway.

Thanks Bob.

Mags ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 07, 2014, 11:50:19 PM

Now that I watched it again, it seems unrealistic. ??? Those are big sparks. Ive seen guys with 100ft ant and only small voltage. Ill see if he answers any questions. I thought I remembered a light as a load. Maybe I was just thinking of the schematic, I dunno.

But, maybe all that is needed is a transmitter, and a bunch of these. Well, I have these .016x4x10in plates. Got very thin plastic for insulating layers.

Here is another from that guy Windfilter. He does some unusual stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNaRe73YvVs

Im tired. Bed time.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 08, 2014, 12:39:00 AM

an alternative to antenna cpnstruction

have u considered Neutral laid aerial for miles

and water tap pipes buried for miles

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 08, 2014, 12:46:11 AM

Quote from: totoalas on April 08, 2014, 12:39:00 AM
an alternative to antenna cpnstruction

have u considered Neutral laid aerial for miles

and water tap pipes buried for miles

Yes, but the danger is that we can be stealing electricity from the grid.
Pity google's disappeared, he was a breath of fresh air even if a bit over the top sometimes.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 08, 2014, 01:31:08 AM

agree a king
the link is great
jonnydavros flyback can run as low as 30 ma with 1.5 v aa battery
mags and mr t i like the spark generated too strong any ckt idea
thanks
in my proposed set up

plate plus jonnydavro ckt and gyula oracion series prallwl cap coil
no more neutral from now on 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 08, 2014, 06:17:51 AM

Thanks Mr Bob and Mr Magluvin, Here are his circuit diagrams. Just for the record. Videos do seem unrealistic but maybe we are missing out something. Whats that we are missing out ?

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr. Teslonian on April 08, 2014, 06:21:12 AM

Quote from: totoalas on April 08, 2014, 01:31:08 AM
agree a king
the link is great
jonnydavros flyback can run as low as 30 ma with 1.5 v aa battery
mags and mr t i like the spark generated too strong any ckt idea
thanks
in my proposed set up

plate plus jonnydavro ckt and gyula oracion series prallwl cap coil
no more neutral from now on 8)

Its a good decision by you. Any short cicuit between neutral and hot can be lethal. Please dont risk your life. Free energy is not worth your life. Best wishes.

--- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 08, 2014, 07:14:50 AM

The use of ignition coil is preferred since by induction i can light a spark gap ckt
Also less parts

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 08, 2014, 09:08:42 AM

ninong Otits
im 2 hours drove from you
just like if u want eyeball 3 weeks vacation nxt week

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 08, 2014, 10:26:55 AM

A.king21

Sometimes a tespoonful of sugar is sweeter than the same teaspoonful of sugar. ;D ;D

It only depends on how you eat it. ;) :D ;)

I love spark plug cables. Some sparkplug cables are very crunchy. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Nobody still got it ? >:( >:( >:( ;D ;D ;D ;D

If you want to know how, ask me, otherwise I will just keep mum again. >:( >:( :-X :-X :-X :-X

Www.Crunchycables.com ;D ;D over and out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 08, 2014, 11:45:53 AM

Now some are asking me via PM. ;D ;D

http;\\mmm.google.€0M ;D ;D

I love magnetic flux, ;D ;D ;D Its so choco-nutty, I love to add chocolate powder, milk powder, nuts, cream, honey to magnetic flux. ;D ;D ;D

It makes magnetic flux so crunchilicious. Mmmmmm........ I love it....Yummmy yummy. More the Yummy Yummy more the better output of endorphins, more endorphins lead to happiness, happiness leads to overunity in life. ;D ;D ;D

Chocolicious fluxilicious el-goog-le. ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 08, 2014, 11:53:13 AM

Quote from: totoalas on April 08, 2014, 09:08:42 AM
ninong Otits
im 2 hours drove from you
just like if u want eyeball 3 weeks vacation nxt week

Offering a bribe to your (tor)mentor ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

;D ;D Offer me a weeks paid holiday in Thailand with shopping included, I will tell you how to multiply 1.5 V AAA to 10 KW non stop, while recharging your AAA also. ;D ;D ;D

I have dug titos posts and also posts of people tito dug before joining the forum and i cracked the code. ;D ;D

Oh I am silent now. 8)

Bye, see you in Bangkok. ;D ;D ;D I love Thai massage. ;) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on April 08, 2014, 12:22:36 PM

Quote from: Mr. Teslonian on April 08, 2014, 06:17:51 AM
Thanks Mr Bob and Mr Magluvin, Here are his circuit diagrams. Just for the record. Videos do seem unrealistic but maybe we are missing out something. Whats that we are missing out ?

--- Mr. Teslonian

Dear Mr. Teslonian.

A dogged OU researcher named Zeitmaschine posted this last year. it kind of "Struck a chord " !! ;)

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 08, 2014, 12:54:40 PM

Good you discovered the STAGE 1. 8)

I am a disciple of Gods, I live in haunted worlds and I love the secret history of extraterrestrials. I follow the occoult traditions and a member of the psychic mafia. Inventing witchcraft with an irreducible mind is the best guide to paranormal.

Mind games and mind power can decode extraordinary dreams. Unsolved mysteries of the ancient skies and extraterrestrial intelligence is the key to the universe. 8)

Performance is success. Success is performance. Performance is efficiency. Efficiency is in multiplication. Multiplication is lossless. Lossless multiplication is the nature of the universe.

Recycling in the unity mode leads to overunity. Overunity is possible. Nothing is im-possible. Simple things are the most ignored. Ignorance leads to confusion. Confusion leads to dwindling confidence. Poor self confidence is bad for performance.

Performance is in simplicity. Simplicity is the key to universe. Every step up is the square of two inputs which is more, always more than the addition of inputs. So simple. Isnt it guys ?

A*A > A+A
A/A > A-A

What is the nature of A ? Why A behaves in this manner ? Oh its so difficult to get.

>:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 08, 2014, 01:24:09 PM

Do the attachments in this post mean something to you ? >:( >:(
Do not admit it ok. ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 08, 2014, 01:49:35 PM

A*b > A+b
A/b > A-b

A*b + A/b > A+b + A-b

Ab+A/b > 2A

A(b+1/b) > 2A

b+1/b > 2

What is the nature of A and b ?? ;D ;D

If this equation is recycled with minimum losses, and result of each time are added to past results after each result. What will happen ? >:( >:( >:(

www.AandB.com :-X :-X

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 08, 2014, 01:53:54 PM

Ok bye , good night. Arggaaaahh :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 08, 2014, 10:01:03 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 07, 2014, 11:32:03 PM
YES!!!! Thank you Bob. :-* Been banging my head as to where I saw the vid. Cuz it isnt in my history.

Doesnt it seem like a lot of action for an ant circuit???? ;D When Tito would hint towards these devices, my interest was low because of what I 'knew' of the small amount of energy that could be had. But this is no joke. In my opinion anyway.

Thanks Bob. Mags ;D

Hi Mags,
Glad to be of help.
Guys, I think the person who posted this might be a fellow named "Dragon" over on EF. His avatar had LENZ written across it, shaped like an upside down crescent moon (like a smile). I seem to think he posted a few things about the video back on the Don Smith Devices thread, maybe around pages 125-175?
Anyway, it's a foggy recollection. I thought he was putting the plate between two batteries, and the excited fields around the batteries connected to a pulsing circuit caused the plate to pick up the RE and thus, the spark. I dunno... it's quite a while ago. But if I'm correct, it kind of harkens back to what I said about the pulsing within Tito's setup(and others that are similar) exciting the electrostatic environment, and the coil, battery or plate acting like an antenna (the plate in this case) and picking up the influx of RE.
Just a thought. Packin' it in - just back from a long road trip, but had to log in here to see what's goin' on :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1F--M5eQf8I#t=176
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 09, 2014, 12:50:25 AM

Google:
When you first came on you said you would disclose after you hacked Tito's computer.
What has caused you to behave like Tito mark 2 ?

Now we have 2 (tor)mentors.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 09, 2014, 01:00:08 AM

Quote from: Mr. Teslonian on April 07, 2014, 09:36:06 PM
Lets discuss the attached patent now. Anyone on this forum or other forums replicated this ? Please post your ideas of how to convert it into a proper schematic with exact parts and how much energy can be had from this ?

--- Mr. Teslonian

Patrick answered your question, http://free-energy-info.com/Chapter7.pdf
jes Ascanius + Dragan klajic ( dunno are they Alien or user here ;D ) produce 96 watts continuously,
Dr. Stiffler seem use different scheme, just hoping it will give a clue to handershot, nothing good so far..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 09, 2014, 04:20:46 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on April 09, 2014, 12:50:25 AM
Google:
When you first came on you said you would disclose after you hacked Tito's computer.
What has caused you to behave like Tito mark 2 ?

Now we have 2 (tor)mentors.

;D ;D ;D No tormenting at all a.king21. I am not like tito. Please do not insult me. :( :(

I dont like online sniffing. ;D ;D

Have you heard of Kiker Performance coils ? Why do they act, like they do ? ;D ;D

They are real, buddy. They really work. Look for Harvey Kiker s patents on google patents. The answer lies there. Dont ask me how I know this. I just know it and am telling you now.

Try yourself, simple to make and deliver OU to any circuit you want. ;D ;D ;D

Happy now ? OK Smile please, say cheese. Heres your picture -----> :)

Continue the discussion. I wont go over the top now onwards. Promise. ;D ;D

Teslas ghost is cursing me now. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bbem on April 09, 2014, 06:26:47 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 07, 2014, 11:32:03 PM
YES!!!! Thank you Bob. :-* Been banging my head as to where I saw the vid. Cuz it isnt in my history.

Doesnt it seem like a lot of action for an ant circuit? ??? ;D When Tito would hint towards these devices, my interest was low because of what I 'knew' of the small amount of energy that could be had. But this is no joke. In my opinion anyway.

Thanks Bob.

Mags ;D

The great French experimenter Woopyjump made a video about it as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVZpL6mdW38 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVZpL6mdW38)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on April 09, 2014, 09:27:17 AM

I see no overunity in woppy's video circuit. Using two 12v batteries to light a single small dome light. Maybe I don't understand... Where's the free energy part come in?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on April 09, 2014, 10:39:59 AM

Quote from: NickZ on April 09, 2014, 09:27:17 AM
I see no overunity in woppy's video circuit. Using two 12v batteries to light a single small dome light. Maybe I don't understand... Where's the free energy part come in?

At the vicinity of 5:38 of the video, I guess he is switching the batteries off and on, but instead of saying that, in both cases he says "up".

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 09, 2014, 11:43:26 AM

Google, thank you for the Kiker patent reference. I am analyzing it.
Much obliged.
Any other information would be most appreciated.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 09, 2014, 12:17:05 PM

Quote from: NickZ on April 09, 2014, 09:27:17 AM
I see no overunity in woppy's video circuit. Using two 12v batteries to light a single small dome light. Maybe I don't understand... Where's the free energy part come in?

Well the first thing is this is just one wire circuit. Thats a conundrum because they con't exist by most peoples ideas. It uses longitudinal RF technique to charge a circuit into a high voltage high amperage flow. His output did not affect the input at all not even when shorting the output. I was in on that experiment trying to help with ideas. The Captret was my suggestion to be used to further separate the input to output and as you can see for 24v 300ma he was getting some very high current high voltage. We know it was higher voltage because it was sparking so bad and the current measurements were pretty on for that kind of a meter. I don't know if any unshielded meter would work accurately in that kind of oscillator field.
How do you not see anything special about that setup?

And fyi he is saying up because he is surprised that the output loaded and non loaded does nothing to the input current at all. Every yup was taking the load off (bulb). Or even direct shorting it as well.

But I still have reservations about the Captret. This is only because of the problem of the caps ripping themselves apart. But if the cap was made in the Tesla improved fashion could this become a reality?

http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-567,818-electrical-condenser

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 09, 2014, 12:19:38 PM

Quote from: totoalas on April 03, 2014, 05:33:34 PM
so here it is ULTIMATE MAZILLI CIRCUIT V. 1 BY SANJEV21 uploaded 29 Mar 2014

Just awesome! I think i'll give a try! Thanks Totoalas :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 09, 2014, 01:31:47 PM

hi all

Capret discussion, just for reminder..
http://www.overunity.com/9878/captret-capacitor-and-electret/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on April 09, 2014, 09:09:48 PM

jbigness5:
I watched Woopy's video once again to see if there was something that I missed. That video is almost two years old now. If there was overunity, or a self runner involved, he would have had time to improve upon it, by now.
2.4 + amps output. Can that be trusted? NO! I can't trust that meter reading.
Those long sparkler type of sparks, normally mean a non shocking kind of output.
Not one that the amp meter can read properly. At least not on my circuit's secondary output side. Don't know if the scope can read it properly, either.
Why doesn't he light 2.4 amps (using 24v)worth of bulbs? Instead of that little dome light. Or test the draw by leaving the light on (100 watt bulb), to see how long it takes to drain the battery. That test I would believe. Like it's been running for days.
Anyway, my faith is more towards the magnetic energy that the Mazilli crt can output, along with the proper flyback or yoke cores and coils. Which can light several hundred watts worth of light bulbs, as a load, which the Exciter/Kacher normally can't do.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 09, 2014, 10:04:17 PM

Quote from: jbignes5 on April 09, 2014, 12:17:05 PM

Well the first thing is this is just one wire circuit. Thats a conundrum because they con't exist by most peoples ideas. It uses longitudinal RF technique to charge a circuit into a high voltage high amperage flow. His output did not affect the input at all not even when shorting the output. I was in on that experiment trying to help with ideas. The Captret was my suggestion to be used to further separate the input to output and as you can see for 24v 300ma he was getting some very high current high voltage. We know it was higher voltage because it was sparking so bad and the current measurements were pretty on for that kind of a meter. I don't know if any unshielded meter would work accurately in that kind of oscillator field.
How do you not see anything special about that setup?

And fyi he is saying up because he is surprised that the output loaded and non loaded does nothing to the input current at all. Every yup was taking the load off (bulb). Or even direct shorting it as well.

But I still have reservations about the Captret. This is only because of the problem of the caps ripping themselves apart. But if the cap was made in the Tesla improved fashion could this become a reality?

http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-567,818-electrical-condenser

Sorry JB, You are shooting in the dark and confusing people here. I just dont read any post starting with MAY BE. That means the poster doesnt know what he is talking. Keeping silent will be a great help. Pardon me for coming too straight.

I wish you good health.

Get will soon.

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 12:10:20 AM

Quote from: NickZ on April 09, 2014, 09:27:17 AM
I see no overunity in woppy's video circuit. Using two 12v batteries to light a single small dome light. Maybe I don't understand... Where's the free energy part come in?

Yeah Right ?

Wrong ! ;D ;D Whoopyjump calls simple electrolysis as cold fusion. ;D Better dont go by what he says. Fusion emits neutrons, which he never checked with a Gieger counter. Ooooh lot of Bullox on YT to confuse people. Ooooh. :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 12:12:24 AM

Quote from: NickZ on April 09, 2014, 09:09:48 PM
jbigness5:
I watched Woopy's video once again to see if there was something that I missed. That video is almost two years old now. If there was overunity, or a self runner involved, he would have had time to improve upon it, by now.
2.4 + amps output. Can that be trusted? NO! I can't trust that meter reading.
Those long sparkler type of sparks, normally mean a non shocking kind of output.
Not one that the amp meter can read properly. At least not on my circuit's secondary output side. Don't know if the scope can read it properly, either.
Why doesn't he light 2.4 amps (using 24v)worth of bulbs? Instead of that little dome light. Or test the draw by leaving the light on (100 watt bulb), to see how long it takes to drain the battery. That test I would believe. Like it's been running for days.
Anyway, my faith is more towards the magnetic energy that the Mazilli crt can output, along with the proper flyback or yoke cores and coils. Which can light several hundred watts worth of light bulbs, as a load, which the Exciter/Kacher normally can't do.

Abso-bloody-lutely right. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 12:28:45 AM

:D :D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 10, 2014, 12:29:39 AM

Quote from: Google on April 09, 2014, 04:20:46 AM
;D ;D ;D No tormenting at all a.king21. I am not like tito. Please do not insult me. :( :(

I dont like online sniffing. ;D ;D

Have you heard of Kiker Performance coils ? Why do they act, like they do ? ;D ;D

They are real, buddy. They really work. Look for Harvey Kiker s patents on google patents. The answer lies there. Dont ask me how I know this. I just know it and am telling you now.

Try yourself, simple to make and deliver OU to any circuit you want. ;D ;D ;D

Happy now ? OK Smile please, say cheese. Heres your picture -----> :)

Continue the discussion. I wont go over the top now onwards. Promise. ;D ;D

Teslas ghost is cursing me now. ;D ;D ;D

http://www.google.com/patents/US7302926

Auto parts stores have oil pressure gauge copper tubing. Is even rolled in about 3 to 4in in the package. Cheap way to give it a go. ;)

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/dorman-champ-oil-pressure-gauge-installation-kit-7-147/22972850-p

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 02:50:39 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 10, 2014, 12:29:39 AM
http://www.google.com/patents/US7302926

Auto parts stores have oil pressure gauge copper tubing. Is even rolled in about 3 to 4in in the package. Cheap way to give it a go. ;)

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/dorman-champ-oil-pressure-gauge-installation-kit-7-147/22972850-p

Mags

;) ;) ;) right mags !!

And also attach a 20 kv diode between + of primary and + hv out of the flyback/ ignition coil. ;) ;)
With diode + facing the + hv out. ;) ;)

And see the sparks flying all over the place. ;) ;) ;)

Can you make a video of this ? ;D

;D googs ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 02:56:42 AM

Goog, better, best !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFDVCm-pxKw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oyrzLmyxeQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeFdPyiqTSg

"Snacks oil salesmen" ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 10, 2014, 05:02:25 AM

It's Aaron's peter linder man plasma ignition ckt .yt ggigs

Using Pam diode from microwave oven

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 05:05:55 AM

Quote from: totoalas on April 10, 2014, 05:02:25 AM
It's Aaron's peter linder man plasma ignition ckt .yt ggigs

Using Pam diode from microwave oven

Oh thanks for telling that.As if I didnt know these people. :( :D ;D :D ;D ;D

Peter Lindemann. ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 09:41:06 AM

Mags ! How is this file ? ;) ;)

DC power enhancer = Overunity. More out than in. >:( :o 8)

;) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 10, 2014, 09:44:22 AM

plasma globe capacitor yt diadon
we can use tesla o flyback or ignition coil for initial charge or slayer or fly swatter

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 10, 2014, 09:49:08 AM

Quote from: Google on April 10, 2014, 09:41:06 AM
Mags ! How is this file ? ;) ;)

DC power enhancer = Overunity. More out than in. >:( :o 8)

;) ;)

MK coils used in a loop to watch tv for 7 hrs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 10, 2014, 10:36:31 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 10, 2014, 12:29:39 AM
http://www.google.com/patents/US7302926 (http://www.google.com/patents/US7302926)

Auto parts stores have oil pressure gauge copper tubing. Is even rolled in about 3 to 4in in the package. Cheap way to give it a go. ;)

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/dorman-champ-oil-pressure-gauge-installation-kit-7-147/22972850-p (http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/dorman-champ-oil-pressure-gauge-installation-kit-7-147/22972850-p)

Mags

You don't miss a trick.
Time for Tito to say "Congratulations class - you figured out the 3 wire trick?"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 10, 2014, 12:54:02 PM

Its an odd idea. Putting the coiled tube in line(series loop) with a battery and say a motor. If there is more power getting to the motor than the battery provides, does the coil send out more current than goes into it? Is it the hollow area of the tube where flux becomes very dense causing some strange effect?

Im not doubting the idea. I just try to conjure up hows and whys from details before I build an idea presented to me.

I dont know if the auto parts tubing is the way to go yet. The ID is small. But, it is a tube of copper and easily available. Im stopping by Advanced Auto Parts today to pick up a package to try. My electric bike is 48v(4 12v 10ah batts in series), and a perfect ready to go test platform. ;)

A while back, I was using my Watts Up meter on a pulse motor project, not much amperage, and possibly some BEMF caused it to not work any longer. Funny thing, Just tried it recently and it is back from the dead. :o ;D ;D ;D So I have a great lil meter to test this out on my bike. The bike is 500w and has a 15A fuse. The Watts Up meter handles 100A peak 50 cont. up to 60v.

For insulating the tube coil, possibly shrink tubing or Scotch 33 or 88 black tape for a first run.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 10, 2014, 01:10:43 PM

check out on MK coils in youtube

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 10, 2014, 01:35:29 PM

Similar principle here? Guy's done a lot of work with coils on cars and to amplify voltage (not sure about amperage):
Making coils:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICP3DkD8l-k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICP3DkD8l-k)

Home power:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp6htqjPb0Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp6htqjPb0Q)

Picking up longitudinal impulses:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZcV9_P3kwI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZcV9_P3kwI)
- this would suggest to me that this simple coil config is functioning like a series-wound bifi or caduceus coil.
It's interesting that he's having good results with these coils for plant growth. Are they picking up extra longitudinal/scalar impulses or RE and transducing it into voltage without amperage to increase plant cell capacitance and therefore vitality?

Isn't this what Teets did with the "tail" on the end of a 470uF cap?
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 10, 2014, 04:30:46 PM

Quote from: totoalas on April 10, 2014, 01:10:43 PM
check out on MK coils in youtube

Hi, I'm not getting anywhere. Do you have a specific link?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 10, 2014, 05:03:20 PM

its Bob's link ...... sorry

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 07:17:06 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on April 10, 2014, 04:30:46 PM
Hi, I'm not getting anywhere. Do you have a specific link?

A.king21, our friend means "KML COILS" probably.

@Toyota Altis , do you mean you watched TV on inverter with KML coils attached to the battery ?

:D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 07:27:08 PM

@ Bob Smith, I already mentioned combining mag fields of a straight and looped conductor produce vortex effect. This works in TPU as well. ;D ;D

Holla Ho !!! ;D ;D

Photo courtesy - wattsup ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 10, 2014, 07:35:25 PM

http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Chris_Brown's_KML_Coils

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 07:49:28 PM

Please try to combine the mag fileds of two pictures attached and you have a vortex effect. And you know well that vortexes can do wonders. ;) ;)) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 10, 2014, 07:50:28 PM

Quote from: Google on April 10, 2014, 07:17:06 PM
A.king21, our friend means "KML COILS" probably.

@Totyota Altis , do you mean you watched TV on inverter with KML coils attached to the battery ?

:D ;D

giggel i watched the yt of chris watching tv watchamakolit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 07:55:03 PM

IMPORTANT NOTE

Most people believe that market forces will always dictate the best technology will get developed. What they don't seem to realise is that those same market forces will also prevent better technology from emerging while they have control of the present technology. You would hope the good would out in the end, but it doesn't.

Reciprocal, equal and opposite, action and reaction, ying and yang, thats the key.

;) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 08:17:50 PM

My own opinion : Only we ourselves will have to create free energy tech and spread it amongst our family and friends to free ourselves from the shackles of oil barons. I dont think its possible to make money from free energy tech except solar and wind and the likes where speacialised equipment is needed which a backyard engineer cant make easily for his own use. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 08:34:31 PM

Here is a link from our German host Mr. Stefen Hartmann : Thanks Stefen.

http://www.overunity.com/12109/tpu-revolution/#.U0c2sX1X7MI

:D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 08:49:27 PM

Another secret unfolds in this video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBX1-POuJMw

Magnetic amplifier made from common materials. ;D

Quote from :

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1553.50

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 10, 2014, 09:25:45 PM

Quote from: Google on April 10, 2014, 08:17:50 PM
My own opinion : Only we ourselves will have to create free energy tech and spread it amongst our family and friends to free ourselves from the shackles of oil barons. I dont think its possible to make money from free energy tech except solar and wind and the likes where speacialised equipment is needed which a backyard engineer cant make easily for his own use. ;D

Agreed. I didnt think that way much 4 years ago. But as I learned more about the whole idea of it, patents are a dead end and so is getting rich from it. Some people can make 'some' money building for others. A working device may not be so simple for anyone to do. Also, a working device could possibly be dangerous, as a lot of electrical things can be. Reliability and integrity has to come into question also. ;)

If I figure out anything, Ill surely post with no loss of detail, nor will it be presented in parts and pieces. The whole pie. ;D

Magspie ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 10, 2014, 10:37:53 PM

The Kiker 2004 patent. Now where have I seen something like it before,
I wonder hmmmmmm?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 10:43:20 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 10, 2014, 09:25:45 PM
Agreed. I didnt think that way much 4 years ago. But as I learned more about the whole idea of it, patents are a dead end and so is getting rich from it. Some people can make 'some' money building for others. A working device may not be so simple for anyone to do. Also, a working device could possibly be dangerous, as a lot of electrical things can be. Reliability and integrity has to come into question also. ;)

If I figure out anything, Ill surely post with no loss of detail, nor will it be presented in parts and pieces. The whole pie. ;D

Magspie ;D

Hey Magpie !! I really love your attitude. You are so full of Yin. ;D ;D

You are making a mistake. Your tube dia is way smaller than suggested in patent and the coil dia should be between 2.5 to 5 inches. Wrong choice of materials and dimentions may lead you to negate the net effect. None the less no harm in trying a different geometry later.

Easy solution is a copper tubing from Air Conditioning spare parts dealers.

Giggles ;D ;D

Ps . The magpie in the pic is very naughty ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 10:49:36 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on April 10, 2014, 10:37:53 PM
The Kiker 2004 patent. Now where have I seen something like it before,
I wonder hmmmmmm?

Thats called Kike-Nazde coil. Yuppy, Kikenazde coil. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
And igloo shaped Kikenazde coil can do what my dear Kinganazde ?? ;D ;D ;D

Igloo ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 10, 2014, 10:52:32 PM

Quote from: Google on April 10, 2014, 08:34:31 PM
Here is a link from our German host Mr. Stefen Hartmann : Thanks Stefen.

http://www.overunity.com/12109/tpu-revolution/#.U0c2sX1X7MI (http://www.overunity.com/12109/tpu-revolution/#.U0c2sX1X7MI)

:D

Hmm. http://www.overunity.com/12109/tpu-revolution/msg314408/#msg314408

"The driving coil have two opposite windings."
We have all seen where 2 coils are wound on a tube or air core, 1 wound in 1 direction, the other wound in the other direction bothe meeting in the middle. Utkin pdf ;)

"Take for primary multiple-core cable 0,7-0,9Ð¼Ð¼ isolation must be fluoroplastic."
Will have to look that up, 'fluoroplastic'

"Take 2 fluoroplastic wires each lenght 4,2Ð¼. Wind both together - bifilar winding (end of first wire to begin of second. This is for primary."
Ok. Tito did say bifi primary. ;)

"You need to wind in meters not in turns."
Otto said something to this effect, cutting the coil wire length, snipping of bit by bit till tuned. ;)

This fluoroplastic wire with 'cores' Is that a wire with a plastic core with the wire running on the outside of the core with plastic insulation? Possibly could use coax cable? Or copper tubing? ;D
Seems very coincidental. ;) Tito mentioned using coax once or twice.

Ok, gota eat and shower, then look up fluoroplastic wire.

By the way. I like this Google better than what was going on before. ;) can we keep it that way? ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 10, 2014, 10:57:10 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on April 10, 2014, 10:37:53 PM
The Kiker 2004 patent. Now where have I seen something like it before,
I wonder hmmmmmm?

Nice catch on that one. ;) The other pat shows just a battery, coil and motor. So I think it is possible to be used at lower voltages? ???

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 11:01:39 PM

Yes Magpie it will go on this way only....to the goal. ;D ;D

Copper tubing man, copper tubing core.... ;) ;)

Gigolo ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 10, 2014, 11:04:30 PM

Kiker: They've done a lot of research on this on energetic forum You would be as well to read up the reports.
When I read them bells went off.
They were using it in their water spark plug experiments and other stuff.
However.....
I can now report that based on their anomalies, the use of the large tubed helix generates a
.... STATIC FIELD!!! and the energy comes from electrostatic induction.
This deduction is based on HV experiments in their spark plug tests.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 10, 2014, 11:07:50 PM

gig, where do you find that scematic ? more info ?
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg396831/#msg396831

aking21,
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Chris_Brown%27s_KML_Coils

Chris Brown's Own Measurements Show No Change In TV Setup - Last week, Chris reported that he had run a television on a KML Coil system he devised, and that the duration seemed much longer than what would be possible without the KML Coils. Today, his first before/after control test concludes that the KML Coils are not contributing anything to the system. (PESWiki; April 23, 2009)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 10, 2014, 11:08:07 PM

Kiker: Therefore I recommend the use of a neon bulb to detect a static field - even in low voltage tests.
After all the additional energy has to come from somewhere.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 10, 2014, 11:17:45 PM

Quote from: Marsing on April 10, 2014, 11:07:50 PM
gig, where do you find that scematic ? more info ?
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg396831/#msg396831 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg396831/#msg396831)

aking21,
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Chris_Brown%27s_KML_Coils (http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Chris_Brown%27s_KML_Coils)

Chris Brown's Own Measurements Show No Change In TV Setup - Last week, Chris reported that he had run a television on a KML Coil system he devised, and that the duration seemed much longer than what would be possible without the KML Coils. Today, his first before/after control test concludes that the KML Coils are not contributing anything to the system. (PESWiki; April 23, 2009)

I agree, that's why I am not pursuing it.
Kiker is worth thoroughly investigating though.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 11:25:05 PM

Quote from: Marsing on April 10, 2014, 11:07:50 PM
gig, where do you find that scematic ? more info ?
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg396831/#msg396831

aking21,
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Chris_Brown%27s_KML_Coils

Chris Brown's Own Measurements Show No Change In TV Setup - Last week, Chris reported that he had run a television on a KML Coil system he devised, and that the duration seemed much longer than what would be possible without the KML Coils. Today, his first before/after control test concludes that the KML Coils are not contributing anything to the system. (PESWiki; April 23, 2009)

Dont recall the website, I downloaded schematics attached here. Some triode amplification circuits to demo the wonderful uses of triodes.

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 10, 2014, 11:47:27 PM

The Savior said, "Show me the stone that the builders (scholars & Masons) rejected: that is the keystone."

The Savior said, "The Pharisees and the scholars have taken the keys of knowledge and have hidden them. They have not entered nor have they allowed those who want to enter to do so.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 11, 2014, 12:06:27 AM

mag,
i wonder if you have enough spare time and part, and have made plasma ignition coil successfully, then remove the cylinder can of the ignition coil, will you get the same effect? ;D ;D ;D ;D

thanks to all

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dieter on April 11, 2014, 12:06:29 AM

Google,

That's Thomas, right? Some things will never change... :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 11, 2014, 12:15:17 AM

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 11, 2014, 02:00:44 AM

Quote from: dieter on April 11, 2014, 12:06:29 AM
Google,

That's Thomas, right? Some things will never change... :-\

Yeah that was Thomas. Things will never change. :( :( :-\ >:( >:(

But this group here will change the things. We will throw MIBs with Tesla Death Beam. >:( >:( >:(

I am making Tesla Death Beam now . Small version easily kills lawn rats and gophers in a nano second. To hell with MIBs. >:( >:( Easy to download files from archives of Homeland Security. They arent too smart. >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 11, 2014, 02:10:41 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 10, 2014, 09:25:45 PM
But as I learned more about the whole idea of it, patents are a dead end and so is getting rich from it.

Here is a good reason why..... pdf below right from the US pat office web site. So if you are looking to pat your idea, check out the pdf for criteria. Then think about what it really means. 8) 8) 8) ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dieter on April 11, 2014, 05:20:36 AM

Magluvin,

We also got nice laws, eg. any patent of strategic interest can be confiscated by the authorities. And strategic is everything but a new potato peeler... Eco-strategic, Suppresso-strategic...

Google was quoting the Thomas gospels, that are considered unauthentic by the vatican, which is why they are not part of the bible. In fact they do contain rather weird sentenses. Anyway, let's not get too spiritual here, in the solid state device section 8)

Google

No need for Tesla death rays. Free energy will break the chains of mankind as it will turn the world order upside down. George W. Bushs Oil company (I am not kiddin, he really owns one) will become worthless over night. The control of oil is the control of people. Free energy will lead us into a new area in which we will watch mankind and be proud of us, while we spread into the Universe and finally gather eternal life as a species.

The Oil Age is about to end.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 11, 2014, 09:19:03 AM

Hey guys this thread is constructive again well done! Interesting subject and at last something new to talk about. :)

Does anybody understand how those thin wire coils are connected on the main tube coil? I can not understand kicker's explanation on hos patent.

Something that I noticed is that this thick tube coil is at 90 degrees with the spark plug and very close to it. This makes me wonder if that is necessary for creating this vortex that you are talking about. I ask this because as we know the magnetic
vector is perpendicular to the electric vector at every electromagnetic wave. And by applying this principal to the construction perhaps is a need. What is your opinion on that?

Tnks
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 11, 2014, 11:15:25 AM

Quote from: dieter on April 11, 2014, 05:20:36 AM
Magluvin,

We also got nice laws, eg. any patent of strategic interest can be confiscated by the authorities. And strategic is everything but a new potato peeler... Eco-strategic, Suppresso-strategic...

Google was quoting the Thomas gospels, that are considered unauthentic by the vatican, which is why they are not part of the bible. In fact they do contain rather weird sentenses. Anyway, let's not get too spiritual here, in the solid state device section 8)

Google

No need for Tesla death rays. Free energy will break the chains of mankind as it will turn the world order upside down. George W. Bushs Oil company (I am not kiddin, he really owns one) will become worthless over night. The control of oil is the control of people. Free energy will lead us into a new area in which we will watch mankind and be proud of us, while we spread into the Universe and finally gather eternal life as a species.

The Oil Age is about to end.

Regards

Dieter, Thanks for the encouraging words. The Sheikhs have made sinful money out of oil, but they still follow medivial Sharia laws. What a pity ! 8)

Once oil slavery ends the Shiekhs will go back to barbarism, their real nature, which is camouflaged right now by the stinking money. They are the real sponsors of terrorism across the world. >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 11, 2014, 11:17:55 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 11, 2014, 12:06:27 AM
mag,
i wonder if you have enough spare time and part, and have made plasma ignition coil successfully, then remove the cylinder can of the ignition coil, will you get the same effect? ;D ;D ;D ;D

thanks to all

;D ;D ;D He is known for opening old cans. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 11, 2014, 11:19:47 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 11, 2014, 12:15:17 AM
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::) ::) ::)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 11, 2014, 05:11:40 PM

Quote from: Google on April 11, 2014, 11:15:25 AM
Dieter, Thanks for the encouraging words. The Sheikhs have made sinful money out of oil, but they still follow medivial Sharia laws. What a pity ! 8)

Once oil slavery ends the Shiekhs will go back to barbarism, their real nature, which is camouflaged right now by the stinking money. They are the real sponsors of terrorism across the world. >:( >:(

Interesting, blaming worldwide terrorism (like 9-11) on Arab Sheikhs.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 11, 2014, 06:18:28 PM

Can we do the right thing and keep politics and religion off this thread please.
There are plenty of sites for both topics.

Order gentlemen please.

For your information it is the policy of the banksters to keep disruptive technology
away from the mainstream and that includes free energy.
If you really want that sort of info just google or better still startpage
Benjamin Fulford,and/or David Wilcock, and/or David Icke and/or Dr Judith Wood
and/or Alex Jones.

Let's keep this thread on message please.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 11, 2014, 06:21:41 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on April 11, 2014, 05:11:40 PM
Interesting, blaming worldwide terrorism (like 9-11) on Arab Sheikhs.

Order ! Order ! Order ! My Lordship. ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 11, 2014, 06:28:23 PM

Frauds like Joseph Michael Martin of Peru, jmmjubilo@gmail.com, are responsible for a bad reputation of free energy field. >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 11, 2014, 10:28:26 PM

Kapanadze jealously disassembles his device after every performance. Look how he jealously guards the
key piece in the green box video.
His body language says it all. That's where we've got to look I think.
We haven't got him have we?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on April 11, 2014, 10:33:42 PM

Quote from: Google on April 10, 2014, 07:27:08 PM
@ Bob Smith, I already mentioned combining mag fields of a straight and looped conductor produce vortex effect. This works in TPU as well. ;D ;D

Holla Ho !!! ;D ;D

Photo courtesy - wattsup ;)

I think tpu is nothing to do with vortex thing. As far as i know Mark use very fine stranded wire individually insulated in his collector to reduce greatlly the eddy current because he is always frustrated by the heating of his device. I think tpu is more related to NMR. Jack Durban said there is a gyroscopic effect when he take on his hand the device an indication of precession of the atoms nucleus.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 11, 2014, 10:35:22 PM

Quote from: Google on April 11, 2014, 06:21:41 PM
Quote from: Bob Smith on April 11, 2014, 05:11:40 PM
Interesting, blaming worldwide terrorism (like 9-11) on Arab Sheikhs.

Order ! Order ! Order ! My Lordship. ;D ;D

http://www.overunity.com/11442/energetic-forum/msg387580/#msg387580

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 11, 2014, 10:38:04 PM

Quote from: Google on April 11, 2014, 11:19:47 AM
Quote from: Marsing on April 11, 2014, 12:15:17 AM
---
::) ::) ::)

;D

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zth3iAOCd8U ::) ::) ::) ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 11, 2014, 10:40:49 PM

Quote from: Google on April 11, 2014, 11:17:55 AM
Quote from: Marsing on April 11, 2014, 12:06:27 AM
mag,
i wonder if you have enough spare time and part, and have made plasma ignition coil successfully, then remove the cylinder can of the ignition coil, will you get the same effect? ;D ;D ;D ;D

thanks to all

;D ;D ;D He is known for opening old cans. ;D ;D ;D

We will see, no need to make complicated circuit like AKula XxxxX + x, ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 11, 2014, 10:47:35 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on April 11, 2014, 10:28:26 PM
Kapanadze jealously disassembles his device after every performance. Look how he jealously guards the
key piece in the green box video.
His body language says it all. That's where we've got to look I think.
We haven't got him have we?

There was a time here a while back that some were suggesting that the tube coil was sealed at the ends and had a gas inside. Might have been a couple years ago. But, now it just may be the Kiker coil like you suggest. If it is, then there may be more than one way to use the coil. In the Kiker pat, it is just shown as a coil in series with the rest of the circuit and claimed to have an advantage. But here, it may be that the same advantage is used to consume less from the driver circuit, but getting more from the output coils. ;)

Nice thinking A. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 11, 2014, 10:55:05 PM

Just to be clear in may last post, in case anyone read it already, when I was speaking of the gas in the sealed tubing, I was talking about Kapanadze coil, and it was suggested in that thread. lol, Aking posted the same in that thread a bit ago and for some reason I thought I was in that thread when I wrote that last post. :o lol Its the 8) They gassed me and I dont know where I am. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 11, 2014, 11:04:55 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 11, 2014, 10:47:35 PM
There was a time here a while back that some were suggesting that the tube coil was sealed at the ends and had a gas inside. Might have been a couple years ago. But, now it just may be the Kiker coil like you suggest. If it is, then there may be more than one way to use the coil. In the Kiker pat, it is just shown as a coil in series with the rest of the circuit and claimed to have an advantage. But here, it may be that the same advantage is used to consume less from the driver circuit, but getting more from the output coils. ;)

Nice thinking A. ;D

Mags

I'm thinking it was just filed with a ferrite powder or filings.. This way the magnetic component is pulled away inside of the copper coil. This frees the electric field to modulate the center coil. This also causes a loop effect as well with the two coils. One magnetic and the other electric. The high magnetic field is absorbed and channeled inside of the copper coil which is radiating a high electric field.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on April 11, 2014, 11:11:59 PM

I like to build this very simple solid state tesla coil but i dont how to create a very fast switching pulse wave generator. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 11, 2014, 11:16:58 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on April 11, 2014, 11:11:59 PM
I like to build this very simple solid state tesla coil but i dont how to create a very fast switching pulse wave generator. :(

Look up Slayer circuit or go onto Tinsel Koala's youtube site.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on April 11, 2014, 11:30:28 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on April 11, 2014, 11:16:58 PM

Look up Slayer circuit or go onto Tinsel Koala's youtube site.

Tnx a.king21 ill try to visit his website. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 11, 2014, 11:34:37 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on April 11, 2014, 11:11:59 PM
I like to build this very simple solid state tesla coil but i dont how to create a very fast switching pulse wave generator. :(

Something wrong with transistor, you need to reverse emitter collector pin, or change transistor type, or change B polarity

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 01:16:06 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 11, 2014, 10:35:22 PM
Order ! Order ! Order ! My Lordship. ;D ;D

http://www.overunity.com/11442/energetic-forum/msg387580/#msg387580

::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 01:21:25 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 11, 2014, 10:38:04 PM
::) ::) ::)

;D

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zth3iAOCd8U ::) ::) ::) ;D

My tits are on fire. It was amazing. ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 01:23:57 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 11, 2014, 10:40:49 PM
;D ;D ;D He is known for opening old cans. ;D ;D ;D

We will see, no need to make complicated circuit like AKula XxxxX + x, ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dr. AKULA = DRACULA ;D ;D ;D You cant copy russie circuits. They suck. ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 01:26:20 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on April 11, 2014, 10:33:42 PM
I think tpu is nothing to do with vortex thing. As far as i know Mark use very fine stranded wire individually insulated in his collector to reduce greatlly the eddy current because he is always frustrated by the heating of his device. I think tpu is more related to NMR. Jack Durban said there is a gyroscopic effect when he take on his hand the device an indication of precession of the atoms nucleus.

::) ::) ::)

Sometimes not thinking too much is really good. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 01:28:27 AM

Quote from: jbignes5 on April 11, 2014, 11:04:55 PM

I'm thinking it was just filed with a ferrite powder or filings.. This way the magnetic component is pulled away inside of the copper coil. This frees the electric field to modulate the center coil. This also causes a loop effect as well with the two coils. One magnetic and the other electric. The high magnetic field is absorbed and channeled inside of the copper coil which is radiating a high electric field.

::) ::) ::)

Sometimes too much thinking is not really good. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 04:51:41 AM

You know something !

6 months of smart research > 10 years of mediocre timepass.

Try to be smart in research, results will automatically follow. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dig up the posts of successful "tinkerers". Stop following "thinkers". ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 05:03:19 AM

Imaginary party invitation by_______. ;D ;D ;D No party still invitation ? ;D ;D ;D Come to my party Drinks Food Dance and Magic Show. Free home pickup and drop. 8) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 12, 2014, 05:08:05 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on April 11, 2014, 11:11:59 PM
I like to build this very simple solid state tesla coil but i dont how to create a very fast switching pulse wave generator. :(

Dear Neo-x can you be more specific on speed and about your demands of such a circuit? It would be more helpful to you.

There is a circuit that designed with the help of the great Guyla on this thread
http://www.overunity.com/13853/mcp140607-mosfet-driver/msg377195/#msg377195

I use it very often and the most important, it protects the mosfet really really well from burn out. The higher the speed the higher the voltage you have to supply to the mosfet.

Then it is this mazilli driver which i haven't build yet but looks quite strong

And of course it is radu morisan driver which rich speeds up to some MHz. Both of them are self oscillators.
http://www.overunity.com/14197/sstc-changing-frequency-issue/msg392830/#msg392830

I would also suggest you this...
http://www.overunity.com/14198/a-method-for-static-gap-control-for-high-bps-rates/msg382802/#msg382802

On this last circuit topology, you can connect a second capacitor to the end of the coil and have a controlled discharged Cap of unusual high BPS rates. You can go up to the limits of your system. I run it at 40KHz BPS with no problem. You can really feel the power on the spark gap.

.........................................
Come on guys, no-one knows how these little thin wire shits are connected to the main coil tube??!! I can not believe it!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 05:10:12 AM

I think its nude beach sand in the copper tubing of Kapanazde. ;D ;D ;D
Or maybe vulcanic ash, dry ostrich droppings, neodymium sphere magnets, alkaline water etc. ;D ;D ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 12, 2014, 08:06:24 AM

Quote from: jbignes5 on April 11, 2014, 11:04:55 PM

I'm thinking it was just filed with a ferrite powder or filings.. This way the magnetic component is pulled away inside of the copper coil. This frees the electric field to modulate the center coil. This also causes a loop effect as well with the two coils. One magnetic and the other electric. The high magnetic field is absorbed and channeled inside of the copper coil which is radiating a high electric field.

Excellent idea :) would be worth a shot.

Im pretty much at odds with conventional science on about everything especially current flow, I know you guys hear me ranting, I dont mind being the underdog and ridicule just makes me look harder.
I think running the bemf from one coil into another is the key and have been searching for circuits that use this premise anyway I ran across a few one is current amplifiers, voltage amplifiers and the like.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 12, 2014, 08:12:25 AM

Quote
Voltage amplifier – This is the most common type of amplifier. An input voltage is amplified to a larger output voltage. The amplifier's input impedance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input_impedance) is high and the output impedance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Output_impedance) is low.
Current amplifier – This amplifier changes an input current to a larger output current. The amplifier's input impedance is low and the output impedance is high.
Transconductance amplifier – This amplifier responds to a changing input voltage by delivering a related changing output current.
Transresistance amplifier – This amplifier responds to a changing input current by delivering a related changing output voltage. Other names for the device are transimpedance amplifier and current-to-voltage converter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current-to-voltage_converter).[/quote]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplifier
This I believe is a current amplifier, I rearranged the circuit a little it resembles Akula's 80 watt device.
I know Iv heard his devices are fake and may be, its the working principle Im after.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 12, 2014, 08:24:54 AM

Look at Don Smiths device what if the primary was not the primary, actually the primary could be used as a feedback coil to trigger the gate of a fet but the fet would drive one coil, hmmmmm hard to put in words let me draw it up.
I labeled the coil as the primary because thats what its been called but in this circuit its actually a feedback coil.
This is just an idea havent went so far as to test it yet just thinking about the possibility's, could this same principle be used in Kapandze's coils.

edit: I forgot the diode

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 08:32:33 AM

Dave,

Have you ever wanted to build a UFO? There's been allot of work based upon the polarization of dielectrics and or space. But, I had this idea. Since, a parallel tuned circuit stores energy and a series tuned circuit shorts it out, even though both are resonant, the thought of transmitting with a parallel resonant circuit at ultra-high voltages millions of volts, and receiving with a series tuned circuit all of that energy does produce a directional result. From one antenna to the other in an almost quenching fashion.

In electrostatics you learn that 3 million volts is where the dielectric of anything breaks down and a plasma is ignited or an arc. Positive or negative can blow directionally. It's all a matter of whether the positive charge has built up above a ground potential or the negative.

So, if you have a floating potential, it's all a matter of where it wants to go quantitatively. So, if you have a parallel resonant circuit with a transmitting antenna and a series tuned receiving antenna, they'd pull or be attracted to each the other.

So, building a basic high voltage motor that will spin based upon the two different circuits being mounted on a single dielectric post should prove the point because it could be driven at a distance away from a Tesla coil. If the parallel tuned circuit leads and you have a basic air core solenoid, and a basic solenoid based series tuned circuit both tuned to the same frequency as the Tesla coil, they should rotate in the direction of the parallel tuned circuit. You want enough distance to try to prevent mutual inductance, even though it is impossible, try without using more than a ground plate as a shield. Don't box them in so that they cannot resonate. Even with those balanced on a piece of string from the ceiling could prove a point.Matching impedance with the permeability and permittivity of space may seem impossible.

But, if it's ever really done, you could use everything that allows for a photon to travel across space as if it were a stationary rail in space pointed in any direction you want to go. If effect use space itself as a key component in a linear motor.

Nikola Tesla's work appears to shine when I look at it. Much of todays knowledge does not. I don't understand why this is but I hope to get to the bottom of this.

A couple of things shine brighter than others but seem to have gone un-noticed by others.

Do these things not shine to anyone else?

ElgooglE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 12, 2014, 08:48:50 AM

Space travel doesnt interest me much Im going to do that when I leave this world if God will let me and I wont need a ship.

But free energy to pump water for gardens and heat homes of the poor interest me very much that is my goal.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 12, 2014, 08:53:00 AM

In an older experiment where i was hunting to catch Tesla's radiant effect, i had accomplished a collector which was working in the following way. Tesla had said that if the Cap discharge happens very quickly, then this radiant energy is moving so fast that wire by itself can not hold it. So it leaves the wires in a perpendicular direction. Trying to catch this effect, i had put the primary of a normal tesla coil inside a copper tube with a spiral shape so to make space economy (with no electrical connections between them ). During the discharges a hv electrostatic potential arises at the copper tube's walls, capable to light neon lamps. It zapped me many times but didn;t kill me. It pains a lot though!

My best game with this setup was to attach an AWG 40 thin like hair wire to this copper tube, and light a lamp 10 meters away of the setup. The lamp was lighting brightly only when i had it in my hands. I also did Moray's trick, to light it by interrupting the thin wire line with a piece of glass. And of course i light it like Gray, by having the bulb in a bucket of water. I stopped this experiments before manage to collect this extra energy to a an other cap.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 08:56:25 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 12, 2014, 08:48:50 AM
Space travel doesnt interest me much Im going to do that when I leave this world if God will let me and I wont need a ship.

But free energy to pump water for gardens and heat homes of the poor interest me very much that is my goal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd6tQ65lsOs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 09:01:14 AM

Quote from: Jeg on April 12, 2014, 08:53:00 AM
In an older experiment where i was hunting to catch Tesla's radiant effect, i had accomplished a collector which was working in the following way. Tesla had said that if the Cap discharge happens very quickly, then this radiant energy is moving so fast that wire by itself can not hold it. So it leaves the wires in a perpendicular direction. Trying to catch this effect, i had put the primary of a normal tesla coil inside a copper tube with a spiral shape so to make space economy (with no electrical connections between them ). During the discharges a hv electrostatic potential arises at the copper tube's walls, capable to light neon lamps. It zapped me many times but didn;t kill me. It pains a lot though!

My best game with this setup was to attach an AWG 40 thin like hair wire to this copper tube, and light a lamp 10 meters away of the setup. The lamp was lighting brightly only when i had it in my hands. I also did Moray's trick, to light it by interrupting the thin wire line with a piece of glass. And of course i light it like Gray, by having the bulb in a bucket of water. I stopped this experiments before manage to collect this extra energy to a an other cap.

Jeg, that sounds interesting, any plan to replicate and upload a video. Your tinkering efforts much appreciated. Clap ! Clap ! Clap !

I assume, since you had no secondary, any length of primary will do. And also did copper tube behave like a secondary, with primary inside of it. Was any part earthed ? I assume not. Was output more than input ? What kind of input power lighted what kind of lamp with what intensity ?

$orry I have too many,questions.

A simple circuit upload and a detailed explanation also most welcome.

Thanks on behalf of all who want to see what you did.

Googs. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 12, 2014, 09:14:20 AM

@Jeg

Iv read some of your posts and we think alot in common especially concerning charges within a circuit, I too believe there are two charges seeking to combine.
I also think a coil separates these charges pos and neg.

Im glad this thread got back on track,

We must work together

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 09:28:04 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 12, 2014, 09:14:20 AM
@Jeg

Iv read some of your posts and we think alot in common especially concerning charges within a circuit, I too believe there are two charges seeking to combine.
I also think a coil separates these charges pos and neg.

Im glad this thread got back on track,

We must work together

dave

::) ::)

Wise people think alike & ________ seldom ________. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thanks very much for imparting the new wisdom of a coil separating the charges, to the forum, so far it was a condensor which was known to separate the charges. I must thank you at the outset to open my eyes like this ----- > :o

What more can I say. Your imagination is really bright and you are really leading the forum in the right direction. ;) ;) (tracks are falling apart man ! please have some mercy on the tracks ! ) ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 09:46:22 AM

Quote from: Google on April 12, 2014, 09:28:04 AM
::) ::)

Wise people think alike & ________ seldom ________. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thanks very much for imparting the new wisdom of a coil separating the charges, to the forum, so far it was a condensor which was known to separate the charges. I must thank you at the outset to open my eyes like this ----- > :o

What more can I say. Your imagination is really bright and you are really leading the forum in the right direction. ;) ;) (tracks are falling apart man ! please have some mercy on the tracks ! ) ;D ;D ;D ;D

Have you heard of LOOSE CAPACITIVE COUPLING ? 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 09:57:05 AM

Marsing, a.king21 and Magpie.

Gotoluc has done some good videos on electricity amplification :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RQ6tIgoiJ8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRWwFxNZZxc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M5j6fe8rXc

http://www.overunity.com/4124/electricity-amplification-by-neo-magnet/

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/1764-electric-amplification.html

And Robert Murray Smith is a real nice guy. ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 10:08:21 AM

Very good website for all free energy researchers. ;D

http://homemadecircuitsandschematics.blogspot.in/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on April 12, 2014, 10:08:38 AM

Hello Dave.

About the BEMF sending it to another coil or capacitor you are in correct thinking about that idea. But you are doing it wrong on your devices which solid state switching. The switching is good only on the vibrator/oscillator to step up the voltage to higher electrical pressure.

Kapanadze design is so simple, he assembled it on the principle of Nikola Tesla nothing more.. The new improvements Tariel Kapanadze did was the Resonant Vibrator/Resonant Oscillator which draws a little energy to oscillate a driving coil. The second improvement was the Looping to self run the Tesla Transformator as Kapanadze term it like that.

Kapanadze quote " Why not so far tried to replicated Tesla Transformator scheme?"

Meow ;D ;D

Quote from: Dave45 on April 12, 2014, 08:24:54 AM
Look at Don Smiths device what if the primary was not the primary, actually the primary could be used as a feedback coil to trigger the gate of a fet but the fet would drive one coil, hmmmmm hard to put in words let me draw it up.
I labeled the coil as the primary because thats what its been called but in this circuit its actually a feedback coil.
This is just an idea havent went so far as to test it yet just thinking about the possibility's, could this same principle be used in Kapandze's coils.

edit: I forgot the diode

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 10:11:33 AM

http://homemadecircuitsandschematics.blogspot.in/p/blog-page_14.html

FREE ENERGY CIRCUITS ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 10:16:44 AM

http://homemadecircuitsandschematics.blogspot.in/2012/06/deriving-free-energy-from-air-using-sec.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 10:19:05 AM

http://homemadecircuitsandschematics.blogspot.in/2012/06/simple-voltage-to-current-and-current.html

:o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 10:25:44 AM

Quote

Mr. Steven has devised an ingenious way of collecting energy from the air and using it for various useful purposes like for charging small 9v NiMh battery, or for making high voltages etc. The experiments are indeed very intriguing and I definitely want to share them with you all, let's know more from Steven himself...... Thanks pal you are welcome to put my stuff up in your blog, at least its getting shared around. There's more yet to come including my nmh battery charger experiments powered from the sec tower output now remember this i integrated ideas i find on the net together to come up with these new experiments like the polarity indicator i modified it to use as a sec tower energy output indicator or tester and then there's a led power meter circuit from a talking electronics site, I modified that to use the energy output from the tower to charge hv caps up to and still light an afremenko plug up to and charge my nmh battery to and then there's the free energy from air circuit same as the one featured on the inventors 3 youtube videos which is the same on the youtube video titled Tesla's little secret, this circuit works wonders when integrated with others and soaks up more energy when placed next to the modified polarity indicator circuit which is now the sec power output tester or indicator so you see, ideas and integrating one circuit into another is an ingenious way to come up with new ideas and experiments. and then there's the ac operated relay circuit originally used to allow ac to operate a dc relay so a small modification to it allows my to get more RF energy from the sec tower , the same circuit cannot step up the voltage fed into a transformer in reverse mode to get stepped up ac for some reason but it does great for RF voltage RF currents so that i integrated into the whole system , so its the way to go, find a circuit improve it upgrade it modify it and integrate it into other circuit ideas , If you think that's great i have video footage of experiments where i can use any transformer any way around as an em pick up via simple vlf receiver circuit and even relay coils and, even ignition coils with there internal soft iron shielding inside the can and around the coil. and when i play a cassette tape right up against the ignition coil the sound from the tape is EM induced right through that ignition coil and through the soft iron shielding and comes right out the VLF receiver circuits headphones , in other words i can listen to a radio through an ignition coil and its easy with relays to as the coil in it is my em pickup coil and that's interesting . and the same VLF receiver circuit allowed me to listen to the em RF energy from the sec exciter tower to its a hum a little slower than mains hum that's what i hear .Getting Free Energy from Air The first circuit is a slightly modified led power meter from a talking electronics site normally the led power meter is used to tune bugging devices to put out the peak power something like that, but after i modified it it now charges nickel metal hydride batteries fast when used with the sec coil towers output i've only tested this a few times so more needs to be done yet since it worked on a bread board. the next circuit is the free energy from air circuit with hv caps and another slightly modified led power meter with added afremnko plug and nmh battery.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 10:45:29 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 12, 2014, 08:06:24 AM
Excellent idea :) would be worth a shot.

Im pretty much at odds with conventional science on about everything especially current flow, I know you guys hear me ranting, I dont mind being the underdog and ridicule just makes me look harder.
I think running the bemf from one coil into another is the key and have been searching for circuits that use this premise anyway I ran across a few one is current amplifiers, voltage amplifiers and the like.

Oh I am at odds with the current teachings because they only pay attention to half of the phenomena we call electricity. MAgnetics this and magnetics that, when look at it very closely there would be zero magnetic field if there were no voltage potential difference and current flow from the potential difference. After those then you get the magnetic field... We all know this yet it is the rather large elephant in the room isn't it?

There are a great many new scientists NOW who agree and have or are starting to join up. The electric Universe is well on it's way to really understanding A good majority of what the other scientists scratch their heads over.

You know it is funny. When I started trying to tell everyone that voltage is the key they scoffed. Way more then they do now. I was ridiculed and shunned. I'm a big boy so I kept researching and eventually the truth started to filter out. I'm not saying that I originated the idea. What I'm saying is that a lot of employed scientists had this same conclusion but was afraid to rock the boat. They have to earn something. Coming out and saying things like this could and most often would ruins a career.

Lets see: a good portion of Maxwells equations were thrown out. Care to take a guess what the context was of those "rubbish" equations? What we know is this. MAxwell's current equations focus on the magnetic.. We know it is very conservative or wasteful. What we don't know about is the fundamental electric component of the magnetic field. We know they are intimately tied together but what we don't know is how it acts when one is filtered out of the other. What is the tie between them and where do they connect. Does one affect the other and how does it affect the other. We know there is a link but understanding that link is the challenge. Once we know the link we can devise ways to work the link to our advantage. I think Some have Discovered this link but as usual the old Human trait of greed and ego gets in the way. When I see $$$ I know it is a greed thing. When I see Boxes I know it is an ego thing as well. They wag the secret in the box under our noses and say you want it? Then pay up.

Listen at times I might sound like a lunatic, my ideas of this process can be quite out there but how many others with a hell of a lot more credibility than me have already gone down this road before. Some never making it to a full understanding about the process. Most would spend so much time defending their claims that they don't get a chance to fully show their devices of methods. Heck most get shamed into saying nothing further about it. The opposition has it's tactics. They do all of the things I mentioned above all while not performing the experiments. Arguing from a book written 100 years ago. Never going forward but maintaining the status quo. Is that all we got? Even after others have said there are better ways to accomplish our goals? What do we have to loose by exploring and then doing the work? loosing some Time? A Bit of cash for the experiments?

What would we gain? Unlimited Energy? Self respect? Quality of life? Unity? Time?

Instead our focus has become about survival and this is not a good place to be. A man put under survival situations will always do what they need to do and that is to survive. He would do anything to accomplish that goal. ANYTHING. The signs are all around us. This is how we are forced to live. This is why you see scams and such. It's all about survival and self preservation at this time. Well not all men.. There has been a great many who have opened their eyes and seen the dragon. Most call this awakening. I call it finding our humanity. Not all of our societies are in ruins... Yet... There is hope and a new understanding of the Universe we are a part of. Hang in there.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 12, 2014, 10:54:58 AM

If the earth is neg and we wanted to pump electrons from it I would try to attract it with a pos charged cap, that cap could also be a coax cable.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 10:57:59 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 12, 2014, 10:54:58 AM
If the earth is neg and we wanted to pump electrons from it I would try to attract it with a pos charged cap, that cap could also be a coax cable.

It is the premise of All Tesla's work. In most cases he uses the ground to form a vacuum like effect. The cap is to prevent DC shorts to ground. He also says you can have a coil in between the source and ground. I'll have to check on the ways to connect it for you.

http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-514,167-electrical-conductor

Ever thought what a spark gap really is? Think open Capacitor....

The coil in this example I provided creates a choke at the resonant frequency chosen by the coils components. This in effect chokes off all current and only allows the ground current to enter the system in a reverse flow through the choke because it is one connected wire.

I also think that Tesla devised a way to make a coil a one way diode like flow. This coil needs more research to figure out the way it can be used. That coils name is the bifilar coil. If anything else it would increase the inductance a low to moderate amount and increase the capacitance without using real Caps. Think about this one now. If the backflow is due to the capacitance what would increasing the natural capacitance of a coil? You could choke the flow of current and fill the capacitance with ground current to use in the system, All this at the same time...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 11:01:08 AM

Voltage is direcly proportionate to current and vice versa. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on April 12, 2014, 11:04:05 AM

Quote from: Google on April 12, 2014, 11:01:08 AM
Voltage is direcly proportionate to current and vice versa. ;)

Google's Law: V=IR, and I = V/R.

No, wait.... that's someone else's law..... never mind, carry on.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 11:06:20 AM

It is the charge thats the key to universe. 8)

Voltage is merely a consequence of charge. It is work done per coulomb of charge. 8)

(Note :This post is just for the forum not to get misguided by half truths being gurgled here in the name of working scientists) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 11:10:46 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 12, 2014, 11:04:05 AM
Google's Law: V=IR, and I = V/R.

No, wait.... that's someone else's law..... never mind, carry on.

;D trying to analize me after anslie ? ;D ;D , oh I am feeling so defenceless. ;D

V = IR, for a constant R , I is directly proportional to V. And Vice versa. Prove me wrong Doctor. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 12, 2014, 11:19:18 AM

I think another diode would have to be used to keep from pulling the current from the forward end of the coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 11:23:54 AM

If it takes one joule to move a coulomb of charge from point A to point B then there is one volt between the points.

Voltage has magnitude and polarity but no direction. Whereas an electric field has charge, magnitude and direction also. 8)

In AC circuit Voltage has direction but not in DC circuit.

Draw your own inferences now. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 12, 2014, 11:25:11 AM

Thanks for the circuit links Google

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 12, 2014, 11:32:34 AM

Quote from: stupify12 on April 12, 2014, 10:08:38 AM
Kapanadze design is so simple, he assembled it on the principle of Nikola Tesla nothing more.. The new improvements Tariel Kapanadze did was the Resonant Vibrator/Resonant Oscillator which draws a little energy to oscillate a driving coil. The second improvement was the Looping to self run the Tesla Transformator as Kapanadze term it like that.

Kapanadze quote " Why not so far tried to replicated Tesla Transformator scheme?"

Meow ;D ;D

Hey Stupify,
Nice to see you back in the conversation.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 11:47:23 AM

Quote from: Google on April 12, 2014, 11:06:20 AM
It is the charge thats the key to universe. 8)

Voltage is merely a consequence of charge. It is work done per coulomb of charge. 8)

(Note :This post is just for the forum not to get misguided by half truths being gurgled here in the name of working scientists) 8)

Charge is not why voltage exists. Voltages exists because it is a balancing act that displacement of the medium creates potential or inward focusing or a pressure to the void of the medium. Thats why voltage exists. When there is no matter at all in the medium there is no potential difference in that medium. It is very uniform. Only when there is matter can the medium be divided and form pressure which causes a voltage potential between to points in that medium. But what is the medium then by that definition? The medium is a perfect form of matter with no charge whatsoever. It is undetectable because it conducts perfectly. It has zero force because it has zero charge. Ever wonder why we can see other galaxies with ease? Why we have a hard time seeing our own internal galaxy components? it is because the galaxies are filled with matter. It is imperfect and hence why it has so much radiations. In between galaxies is pure medium. So clear and perfect from the facts that we can see with clarity other galaxies with ease. Each galaxy is a bubble in this perfect medium. The bubble is created with expanded matter or charged matter. What gives matter charge is simply all the perfect medium pressing in on this matter bubble. Pressure is voltage potential in this case. The force pressing in is invisible but is made manifest by matter being acted on by this pressing force. So it is a loop. Once started that loop will go indefinitely without further input from anything. I'm not saying it doesn't shift and change but the sum will always equal the total force. If an area becomes quiet and less active another area becomes more active.

Now some premises are very correct that we view. Like the balancing actions. They will always equal the totality of all matter in the galaxie. Matter=displacement of the medium=Total energy available. Differences in potential based on matter and displaced medium are the reasons for flows to occur. Once flows are established magnetics comes into play from the flows and usually a plasma forms to host the magnetics.

But since we reject the medium we reject half of the equations. We reject the very thing that allows connections over super long distances. Radiative energy is not conservative it is expansive going out and connecting to the expansive network that connects all matter.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 11:51:19 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 12, 2014, 11:25:11 AM
Thanks for the circuit links Google

At your service sir. :) My pleasure.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 12, 2014, 12:07:40 PM

I found this circuit interesting, using electron current flow
When the transistor S2 is on current flows from neg through S2 through the diode D4 into L1
When the transistor S2 is off the bemf from L1 which is pos charges C2 on the pos side this in turn pulls from the neg terminal through the primary on TR.
The pos bemf is high voltage hitting C2 so this will pull harder on the neg than just pulsing the primary of TR using the transistor.
C2 receives a pos charge from the bemf as does the cap across S2
Interesting circuit, its what gave me the idea to pull neg charge from earth.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 12:12:07 PM

Quote from: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 11:47:23 AM

Charge is not why voltage exists. Voltages exists because it is a balancing act that displacement of the medium creates potential or inward focusing or a pressure to the void of the medium. Thats why voltage exists. When there is no matter at all in the medium there is no potential difference in that medium. It is very uniform. Only when there is matter can the medium be divided and form pressure which causes a voltage potential between to points in that medium. But what is the medium then by that definition? The medium is a perfect form of matter with no charge whatsoever. It is undetectable because it conducts perfectly. It has zero force because it has zero charge. Ever wonder why we can see other galaxies with ease? Why we have a hard time seeing our own internal galaxy components? it is because the galaxies are filled with matter. It is imperfect and hence why it has so much radiations. In between galaxies is pure medium. So clear and perfect from the facts that we can see with clarity other galaxies with ease. Each galaxy is a bubble in this perfect medium. The bubble is created with expanded matter or charged matter. What gives matter charge is simply all the perfect medium pressing in on this matter bubble. Pressure is voltage potential in this case. The force pressing in is invisible but is made manifest by matter being acted on by this pressing force. So it is a loop. Once started that loop will go indefinitely without further input from anything. I'm not saying it doesn't shift and change but the sum will always equal the total force. If an area becomes quiet and less active another area becomes more active.

Now some premises are very correct that we view. Like the balancing actions. They will always equal the totality of all matter in the galaxie. Matter=displacement of the medium=Total energy available. Differences in potential based on matter and displaced medium are the reasons for flows to occur. Once flows are established magnetics comes into play from the flows.

So a voltage can exist without a charge ? ;D ;D

The elementary charge, usually denoted as e, is the electric charge carried by a single proton, or equivalently, the negation of the electric charge carried by a single electron. This elementary charge is a fundamental physical constant.

Voltage is defined as the work done by a unit positive charge, carrying it from infinity to that point, while voltage diff between two points is the work done by the unit positive charge from one point to the other.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 12:32:18 PM

Quote from: Google on April 12, 2014, 12:12:07 PM
So a voltage can exist without a charge ? ;D ;D

The elementary charge, usually denoted as e, is the electric charge carried by a single proton, or equivalently, the negation of the electric charge carried by a single electron. This elementary charge is a fundamental physical constant.

Voltage is defined as the work done by a unit positive charge, carrying it from infinity to that point, while voltage diff between two points is the work done by the unit positive charge from one point to the other.

Voltage, electrical potential difference, electric tension or electric pressure (denoted ∆V) and measured in units of electric potential: volts, or joules per coulomb is the electric potential difference between two points, or the difference in electric potential energy of a unit charge transported between two points.[1] Voltage is equal to the work done per unit charge against a static electric field to move the charge between two points. A voltage may represent either a source of energy (electromotive force), or lost, used, or stored energy (potential drop). A voltmeter can be used to measure the voltage (or potential difference) between two points in a system; usually a common reference potential such as the ground of the system is used as one of the points. Voltage can be caused by static electric fields, by electric current through a magnetic field, by time-varying magnetic fields, or some combination of these three.

Of course leave out half of the explanation to serve your purpose.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 12, 2014, 12:37:00 PM

There's no point in theoretical discussion. They get you nowhere.
Let's stick to facts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr9JHegfymA

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 12:43:58 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on April 12, 2014, 12:37:00 PM
There's no point in theoretical discussion. They get you nowhere.
Let's stick to facts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr9JHegfymA

JB knows the better half of Voltage but wont tell openly. ;D ;D ;D Thats JBs secret like Tito's secret. You wanna know whats in the black box ? :D ;D ;D Start buttering JB. :D ;D ;D

The electrical universe. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 12:47:52 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on April 12, 2014, 12:37:00 PM
There's no point in theoretical discussion. They get you nowhere.
Let's stick to facts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr9JHegfymA

Yeah this guys from EF. I saw this earlier but too dark to make out the diff. I got some AC copper tubes lying around, will try and see the diff. Thanks a.king21.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 12:52:54 PM

Quote from: Google on April 12, 2014, 12:43:58 PM
JB knows the better half of Voltage but wont tell openly. ;D ;D ;D Thats JBs secret like Tito's secret. You wanna know whats in the black box ? :D ;D ;D Start buttering JB. :D ;D ;D

The electrical universe. ;D

I am learning as we speak. You might want to take the hint there.

What is the point of your posts other than spamming smiles and such witty retorts to something you obviously don't understand.. Last page there were over 10 posts of nothing but fill. Most being very unuseful. Quite the distraction.. Obviously you don't want answers you want to poke fun at this whole process and take things out of context even when reading from a book. Cherry picking the lines from a definition only allows you to justify your half understanding of the topic.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 01:07:56 PM

Quote from: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 12:52:54 PM

I am learning as we speak. You might want to take the hint there.

What is the point of your posts other than spamming smiles and such witty retorts to something you obviously don't understand.. Last page there were over 10 posts of nothing but fill. Most being very unuseful. Quite the distraction.. Obviously you don't want answers you want to poke fun at this whole process and take things out of context even when reading from a book. Cherry picking the lines from a definition only allows you to justify your half understanding of the topic.

Is it really that difficult to understand ? If you can simply explain what you think without philosophising the scientific facts, no one will resort to witty retorts.

I tell you something practical and interesting now.

ERfinder has much less posts than many veterans like you, but they all are very profound and deep and one can learn a lot from his posts.

But your posts indicate that you seem to have some idea of something different but you are making so much milkshake of Voltage in your posts that they become useless crap instead of meaningful and coherent ideas.

No point in trying to gauge my depth, you will need a longer measure than you probably have. You dont even know who am I and why am I here having so much fun with people spewing endless half truths.

;D

Can your secret half of electricity make 1000 Mega Watts from 1 gram of Hydrogen ? ;D ;D ;D

Gotta learn more and more Uncle JB. ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 01:52:30 PM

Quote from: Google on April 12, 2014, 01:07:56 PM
Is it really that difficult to understand ? If you can simply explain what you think without philosophising the scientific facts, no one will resort to witty retorts.

I tell you something practical and interesting now.

ERfinder has much less posts than many veterans like you, but they all are very profound and deep and one can learn a lot from his posts.

But your posts indicate that you seem to have some idea of something different but you are making so much milkshake of Voltage in your posts that they become useless crap instead of meaningful and coherent ideas.

No point in trying to gauge my depth, you will need a longer measure than you probably have. You dont even know who am I and why am I here having so much fun with people spewing endless half truths.

;D

Can your secret half of electricity make 1000 Mega Watts from 1 gram of Hydrogen ? ;D ;D ;D

Gotta learn more and more Uncle JB. ;D ;D

Oh I know who you are and where you are employed. This kind of tactic is Rule number 2 in their handbook.

And to tell you the truth I don't care to investigate any further who you are and why you are here.

One important thing is very clear. IF we are to explain what is happening in any system we MUST know how it really works. Not misunderstandings from 100 years ago but really know what is going on. We should be able to distill it down from a certain point and be reasonable sure we know what is really going on. But we can not do this if we ignore half of the situation. If we ignore half of the flows across the conductors then what is outside is not as important as what is inside of that wire! We conveniently ignore half of the equation in all aspects of current electronic theory except where it is explicitly needed to be explained. Like RF and negative ion generators. There is a field around everything. This field is Electric in nature. It allows induction because the foundation of the network is built in each piece of matter. Matter gets it's potential from this and flows start a flowing. Once that process is started it pretty much rolls along in our Universe.

If this view is taken by the mainstream and we find out that we do not need to add power from an external source to get useful force then we have a chance. If we are going to sit here and post link after link debating weather my view is correct then it does nothing at all to have this Thread. We are not here to devise OU from our current system. Time after time it has netted us nothing because magnetics is a conservative effect. We need to explore alternative views in order to do this. We can not Hang on the past religiously guarded revelations about energy because they do not work. That viewpoint will only net you Unity at best. We need a new view with fresh eyes to see the truth. The new view is to focus on what is Voltage. How is it related to current and the resulting magnetic fields that come from Voltage fields.
Here is a question to you: What do you have if there is no potential differences at all? I Tell you what you have......

NOTHING!!!!

You, me and the rest of this universe would be one. But it is not one like a shorted connection. We know it had to start in a uniformity state and then condensed into real matter. This division of space is the very reason we all exist. Matter is so small that it is even divided into smaller units. As far as we can detect this will go on forever. There is no smallest division of matter and it is a pointless route to go.

Even though lets do a thought experiment. I live on a planet. From my scale it looks HUGE. I got so much room that I could not walk across it in 60 days travel by foot. But now lets look at where this planet resides. It is in a ball of force that extends from the Suns point. This is an electric field and not a magnetic. It also connects all the planets in my solar system to each other and to a certain extent to the rest of the universe. But lets now look closer at what makes up this planet. Each time we zoom in to see particles they divide into cell like components. the more we change our scale of view or magnification the more it looks like that matter is divided by huge vast spaces. And we start to see grouped atoms. Now at this point we must use an electron microscope. It uses "Electrons" to sonar what is there and the resulting reflections of electrons is detected and interpreted by a computer. It builds a surface view only of what the electrons bounced off of. It does not show you inside of the atom only the surface that the electron bounced off of. My best guess is that this surface is "Electron" shells of the atoms. We do not see the material of the atom only the reflection of the shell around the atom. Se we are blind to what is inside of the atom.
Now lets go the other way. We use a telescope to change our scale of view. We start to see the planets and solar system we have around us. We focus more and we start to see other points of light. Those points are other galaxies in our Universe. And we started recording the positions and strengths of each point. To this day we have a very extensive database on all those points and we know through computer simulations that we can accurately simulate where they would be in a model. We change our scale of view to the max. Including all the lights in the universe and this is what we get:

http://www.sustnrs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/big-history_universe.jpg

This is a process of matter and energy flows condensing over time. Before this universe had division this simulation would be all uniform with one haze. The electric field is everywhere and this is due to potential differences of those points once condensing occurs. Once flows start in this field they condense further and currents flow. Once currents flow the magnetic field gets involved and the condensing becomes strengthened locally. All the while every piece of matter is radiating into the space around it. Radiating both voltage field and subsequent magnetic field.

Going back to the analogy we are in matter that is bigger then you can imagine. Just like an atom is in a bigger than countability of macro matter. As the picture suggests we need more information to determine what matter we are in. What is it's purpose and what is our role in this or even if we have a role in this. From my viewpoint currently I suggest we are merely a parasite to this matter. We consume huge quantities of energy and return very little to the whole. We are a virus and maybe just maybe we can transition to a living, breathing, entity that can contribute to the wholes well being. But most of our society thinks WE are the top of the food chain. This is because we have limited our viewpoint. This blinds us to the wonders outside of that viewpoint. When some go outside of that viewpoint most berate, scoff and bang on the holy book that we call science laws. They beat this into our heads from day one, "Do as we say not how it actually is!".

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 12, 2014, 04:30:51 PM

Thread on fire again and full of inspiration! I also believe that without theory no progress...unfortunately ;D

Jbigness what is your opinion please on the nature of current and its relation to voltage? What do you say about the Don Smith's electron doublets the one being the voltage and the other the current? What about Leedskalnin that describes a universe with only magnetic characteristics and again a two particle base?

Google thanks for the interest, until tomorrow I will post anything you need if you like to play around this setup. I attach the one of my two collectors to take an idea. The wire inside is insulated and thick enough. The charges are not as much like at the top of a Tesla secondary, but there are enough to zap you until burn your finger. I have to read my notes but I remember that worked well just with a mosfet and an air transformer. The hv secondary is connected between two separate grounds through two spark gaps. The collector was between the negative peak and the one ground. At first I was firing this with a hv dc cap. The effect was the same but a little lesser because the static gap does not stop conducting abruptly like mosfet does. And of course confirmed that the higher the voltage and/or the frequency, the stronger the effect.

Dear Dave, very nice to meet you. Magnetic currents of Leedskalnin is my bible. I have read it at least six times and every time I see something new! What you say about the earth-charge pumping by present a positive lead of a capacitor to the ground is logical but I think that something is missing. Don smith says that his doublets are both negative, but voltage is more negative. If we take this as valid, then it is better the diode's anode to be grounded as we want to collect current and not voltage. And even better, a hv negative peak in the ground perhaps will be more effective as we create a lower potential than the ground, and as we know the current flows from high potential to the lower... gosh I think I have missed that hmm I will test it soon!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 05:13:36 PM

I had thought I made myself clear but I will answer based on the way the question was presented (with respect).

The electric component is the source network. It maintains it's potential by being connected to the network established by the medium the matter displaces. The more displacement the more and the stronger this effect can be seen. Currents arise out of this displacement when two sources come together or connect to the network. Mind you most of the connections happens a very long time ago and you could think of it like this. In the uniformity of space after the event that created the space energy or particles condensed out of that uniformity. It would be like watching a dye in water in reverse time. From the point of saturation of the dye in the water if we roll back time on the video we can see the condensing action as an example. Except in this case it was forming little balls. These litlle balls would take more zero's then I would care to post to count in just a square cubic centimeters volume.

As the condensing network works it creates differences in the flows between this network. This is done by multiple network connections and is highly dependant on that for current flow.

I think Ed was right but then again not exactly right, what is the genesis of the magnetic field? The ELECTRIC field.
The magnetic field is conservative is it not? Then how could the magnetic field support itself if it is trying to conserve itself? It is gaining something from the electric field inside of the magnets atoms. Little channels are being created and the magnetic force is being enhanced by that channel of electric field between each atom. This creates a stiffening and a focusing of the magnetic streams in between each atom. It stays that way because of the atoms mix and the atoms ability to have phase changes due to heat. When the atoms cool they become stable enough to maintain the streams without power. This is a loop at that point. The electrical field is 90 degrees out of phase of the magnetic field lines so to speak and the relationship stays the same as what we see in the real world larger applications.

So the simple answer is the Electric field is the initiator of current. When current starts to flow it is dictated by the electric field as to the flow direction. This current allows the magnetic field to form around the current flows as eddies in the case of the wire analogy.. And that is it. Plain and simple.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 12, 2014, 05:16:36 PM

Just clear your mind and consider this.... What do you think? That's where theory is need it. I am sure that Jbigness will agree on this as current flow is based on the potential difference between two points... the direction is from higher to lower and this is a universal law.

Tnks
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 05:33:48 PM

I would add a gap in between the cap and ground.

"Again in Fig. 19 two transmitting circuits, one grounded directly and the other thru an air gap are shown. It is a common observation that the former is far more effective, which could not be the case with Hertz radiations. In a like manner if two grounded circuits are observed from day to day the effect is found to increase greatly with the dampness of the ground, and for the same reason also the transmission thru sea-water is more efficient."

http://www.tfcbooks.com/images/articles/1919-05-00/19.jpg

Now remember me telling of the spark gap as an open capacitor that is allowed to break down.

"An illuminating experiment is indicated in Fig. 20 in which two grounded transmitters are shown, one with a large and the other with a small terminal capacity. Suppose that the latter be 1/10 of the former but that it is charged to 10 times the potential and let the frequency of the two circuits and therefore the currents in both antennas be exactly the same. The circuit with the smaller capacity will then have 10 times the energy of the other but the effects on the receiver will be in no wise proportionate."

http://www.tfcbooks.com/images/articles/1919-05-00/20.jpg

Lets ask what the new scientists say on my thoughts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IdMz8PkGZM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 12, 2014, 06:49:21 PM

You are a real gem. Continue your good work and there are many people that appreciate it.

Thanks
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 07:40:07 PM

Uncle JB ! Thanks , now you opened yourself up and shared good knowledge. Sorry I had to make you a bit uncomfortable to dig. You make sense to me. Uncle, the only problem remains is that whether charge comes first or voltage. Egg or chichen first ??

I still believe there can be no voltage without electrical Efield due to charge. Charge comes from atomic particles. So voltage is ultimately an atomic phenomenon.

Its the atomic forces running the universe.

A sustained voltage is needed for current to flow. If voltage dies after current flow, no more work can be done. Like I have 10,000 volts static in my comb on dry days but it cant kill me.

We are actually looking for a sustainable HV field to do overunity meaningful work.

With due respect to your age, I am a 15.5 year old student of M.Phil Chemistry and not a troll. I do respect your age Uncle JB.

If overunity happens it should be simple to understand. One should not be forced to learn a new set of rules again. Oh no. Not again !

Keep up the good work. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 08:22:07 PM

Quote from: Google on April 12, 2014, 07:40:07 PM
Uncle JB ! Thanks , now you opened yourself up and shared good knowledge. Sorry I had to make you a bit uncomfortable to dig. You make sense to me. Uncle, the only problem remains is that whether charge comes first or voltage. Egg or chichen first ??

I still believe there can be no voltage without electrical Efield due to charge. Charge comes from atomic particles. So voltage is ultimately an atomic phenomenon.

Its the atomic forces running the universe.

A sustained voltage is needed for current to flow. If voltage dies after current flow, no more work can be done. Like I have 10,000 volts static in my comb on dry days but it cant kill me.

We are actually looking for a sustainable HV field to do overunity meaningful work.

With due respect to your age, I am a 15.5 year old student of M.Phil Chemistry and not a troll. I do respect your age Uncle JB.

If overunity happens it should be simple to understand. One should not be forced to learn a new set of rules again. Oh no. Not again !

Keep up the good work. :)

Thank you for saying such but there is no conundrum in this. There is no chicken or egg there is only the chicken. The egg is rebirth or the continuation of the chicken from a code. You could say a fractal of it's constituent parents.

The medium is responsible for all voltages. The medium is the voltage field. All objects in that field exist because the medium is there. Every effect in the known universe is because of the medium. Matter is only displacing the medium which gives it a standing voltage or potential pressure. Without other effects like heat it would still have a voltage potential and that is well proven by all scientific methods we use today. Yet the scientists still sit there and scratch their heads about why an object that has zero heat still has a potential.

The problem is exactly how I put it they are sooo concentrated on the internal current flow that anything outside is beyond IDEAL. Ideal models only work with perfect components. As you should know an ideal situation will never exist. We all live in environments. On this planet it is everything above or below our feet. Everything means all matter in the Universe. No matter what they tell you remember we as matter are all connected to everything. We contribute to the whole even if you do not know what that whole is.

This kinda brings me to the point of this. All of my revelations were drawn from the past. Some further back then most can remember. The Sumerians seem to be the starting point for our race but I reserve the right to amend that statement. From what we can decipher from this early past is that they knew way more about the natural phenomena then we will ever know. How is that possible?

Well I'm sorry that our forefathers were so greedy to only focus on one half of the whole. This means we will indeed need to change a few things but not as much as you think. They were half right on general theories. Then came the other theories on quantum this and dark matter that or the ever favorite "Electron" that can be a wave and a particle. How absurd. Maybe it is a wave all the time but that wave acts like a particle when it is forced to. Hmmm.. MAybe matter is nothing but fields?? We will never know because we can not use light at that scale to see through the invisible shield of the "Electron" cloud.
By the way did you know the electron is a made up thing? it's only a mathematical construct to explain what we can not see. It is prone to errors in inference to other systems because it was designed for the specific task of explaining the unexplainable.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 09:13:21 PM

No electrons. Thats a good one. Perhaps you could explain how a CRT monitor works.

If that were true, connecting the positive pole of one battery to the negative pole of another battery would cause current to flow, but in the real world it doesn't.

E = E0(y,z)cosωt sin βxj

The energy in an electric field is defined as the potential energy of the charge configuration which is equal to the work done to construct the charge configuration from charges which start out at infinity. But a point charge is not something which is assembled. Consider the derivation of the relation for energy and energy density in such a field. One starts out with the discrete case and takes a limit. The discrete case starts off with a single charge and the energy of the configuration is taken to be zero - by definition. One then brings charges in from infinity to finite distances from each other charge already there. One then obtains a relationship for a number of charges etc. One then assumes that the value of each charge goes to zero while the number of each charge goes to infinity - an unreal assumption with finite point charges.

I bet you'd love the book There Are No Electrons by Kenn Amdahl.

Don't forget about the results of Millikan's oil-drop experiment. How would he explain the observation that every single amount of charge ever observed is a multiple of 1.6 x 10^-19 C.

I'll leave you with the following two examples that you may google at your convenience :

1) SETs : single electron transistors
2) MRFM detection of single electron spin by Rugar, et al at IBM-Almaden

What creates chemical bonding and what creates Photons. This may be cliché but what ever; Can you see the wind ?

Whatever this "something else" is that has all the properties of the electron - that's the thing we call an electron.Single electron spins have been measured:
http://domino.watson.ibm.com/comm/pr...nanoscale.html
Single electron transistors have been around for a while:
http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/11/9/7/1
Single electronic orbitals in a molecule were recently imaged by high speed lasers:
http://www.nature.com/physics/highlights/7020-3.html
A single electron trapped in a quantum dot was detected:
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005AIPC..772..775S
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005cond.mat.10269G

There is no such thing as "what it looks like". It is smaller than the sense we use to see things. So, the manner in which it interacts with the world around it is what defines its identity - and "what it looks like" is both irrelevant and non-existent.

Whatever this "something else" is that has all the properties of the electron - that's the thing we call an electron.

Believe it or not!The act of believing (or deciding not to) is proof that electrons exist. Without electrons you wouldn't believe (or not believe) anything because your neurons would be dead-wood in your skull. None of the electron activity which is evoked by the actions of the sodium/potassium pump (an attribute of the physiology of neurons) would take place. Praised be the almighty electron !

Stick your finger in a light socket and then try that statement again.... [Note: do not stick your finger in a light socket]

Why does that matter? You don't need to be able to see individual water molecules to know water exists.

Electrons don't quite exist the same way chairs and tables can be said to exist. Fundamental 'particles' likely hold the ultimate truth about existence and reality. They are a kind of bridge between something and nothing(e.g. superpositional states).

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 09:47:06 PM

Think man... Electrons are in shells. Thats the best we can detect them. Think about the shell around our planet, it is the very same thing. So many particles that we already capitulate are not whole but are in fact smaller wholes which i bet are even smaller wholes forever. We will always find smaller and smaller as long as we are willing to look for them. Nothing is solid. Nothing. And the only limit is the math we design to look that small. Remember there is no direct looking at even an atom. We must rely on math and simulations to chart what is reflected back to the detector.

Now there is some work being done on mapping the patterns they see on our shell of our atmosphere. This shell is very much like the shell of the atom. And it might lead us to a very different conclusion about what a fractal is and how it applies to our scale and to different scales to boot.

In this case lets do another thought experiment. Given the scale differences, if our planet collided with another planet how many pieces would you expect to find? My bet is more than you would want to count. Care to count the particles of gas in our outer shell? Should we call this shell an electron? I think not. It's all about scales and the viewpoint at which we look at them.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 10:14:20 PM

Quote from: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 09:47:06 PM

Think man... Electrons are in shells. Thats the best we can detect them. Think about the shell around our planet, it is the very same thing. So many particles that we already capitulate are not whole but are in fact smaller wholes which i bet are even smaller wholes forever. We will always find smaller and smaller as long as we are willing to look for them. Nothing is solid. Nothing. And the only limit is the math we design to look that small. Remember there is no direct looking at even an atom. We must rely on math and simulations to chart what is reflected back to the detector.

Now there is some work being done on mapping the patterns they see on our shell of our atmosphere. This shell is very much like the shell of the atom. And it might lead us to a very different conclusion about what a fractal is and how it applies to our scale and to different scales to boot.

In this case lets do another thought experiment. Given the scale differences, if our planet collided with another planet how many pieces would you expect to find? My bet is more than you would want to count. Care to count the particles of gas in our outer shell? Should we call this shell an electron? I think not. It's all about scales and the viewpoint at which we look at them.

The atom consists of the nucleus and the electrons, therefore electrons exist inside atoms, in fact, most of the atom is space occupied by the electron cloud.

As a wavefunction, which describes the probability distribution of finding the electron at any given point in space. This probability distribution is what gives rise to the orbital geometry of the s, p, d, and f orbitals.

Until observed, the electron is said to be in a superposition of states, meaning, for all intents and purposes, it occupies every point in the orbital until it is observed and the wavefunction collapses.

Electrons do exist outside the atom also.

1. Beta decay. A beta particle (which is essentially an electron) is emitted from the nucleus of an atom of a radionuclide. This is not part of the atom any longer and thus exists outside any atom.

2. Vacuum tubes that use either a high voltage potential alone or a combination of high voltage and heated cathode to cause the emission of electrons from their atoms. Examples would include, CRT's, Crookes tubes, and X-ray tubes.

Additionally, materials can be made to emit electrons by the addition of certain compounds, usually radioactive, in a process called thermionic emission. While thermions refers to any particle emitted as a result of high temperature, with or without a doping agent, the emission of an electron would count.

Examples: Aluminum is sometimes alloyed or sintered with thorium compounds to enhance it's thermionic properties.

Just as an electron is a part of an atom, so are neutrons and protons, all three of which can exist outside of the atom. These three particles are building blocks that take place in many other reactions. However, it is not necessary for them to only exist inside or as a part of the atom. Electrons can actually jump from atom to atom to move charge (this is how electricity works) or be transferred back and forth (this is how a chemical bond works).

Ionized atoms liberate at least one electron, which can be used, beamed, etc. The cathode ray tube used in television use an electron beam, those are electrons that are gathered, and accelerated using a potential difference, through a vacuum tube, towards a target that contains a phosphor, a chemical that will glow when hit by electrons.

The nucleus contains protons and neutrons. Protons have positive charge and neutrons are neutral. Electrons have a negative charge, so the electrons are attracted toward the nucleus. This is similar to a satellite orbiting the earth. The satellite is attracted toward the earth by the force of gravity. The satellite must orbit the earth at a specific velocity and altitude, so it does not fall to the surface of the earth. The electrons must orbit the nucleus at a specific velocity and distance from the nucleus to prevent the electrons from moving toward the nucleus. The electrons are involved in bonding. The electrons must be a specific distance outside the nucleus so 2 atoms can transfer electrons in an ionic bond or share electrons in a covalent bond. The outer shell of the atom is composed the valence electrons orbiting around the nucleus.

Electrons 'move' in an orbital (they do not orbit the nucleus but rather appear in certain spots around it). It is not possible to predict where the electron would go but it normally stays within its shell (can be oddly shaped) and near the nucleus. They are usually repelled by other electrons. The electron do not orbit but movement can be explained by an orbital.

Einstein deceived the world. Where is our common sense gone ?

Google.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 10:41:18 PM

Discovery of lost secret of moray radiant energy system.

Moray generated 50 KW by using a 30 yard antenna supported on two tent poles five feet high. He only used crystal radio era electronic parts.

Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHTCZu8OZtI

:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 12, 2014, 10:46:27 PM

The enclosed pdf may be of some interest to some of us. :)

Elgoog.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 12:20:03 AM

Have all mainstream physicists of all countries succumbed to conspiracy of US Govt to not let the truth about the other half of electricity come out ?

Carry on I am listening. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 13, 2014, 02:12:36 AM

Quote from: Google on April 13, 2014, 12:20:03 AM
Have all mainstream physicists of all countries succumbed to conspiracy of US Govt to not let the truth about the other half of electricity come out ?

Carry on I am listening. :)

Well if you consider all the massive spying by the NSA, worldwide, there is something to say about who is top dog here on this lil blue drop in the universe. ;D

But there are others that have considerable interest in keeping these things we seek on the down low. If you have read up on the Gulf oil spill and Corexit used to disperse and sink the oil to the bottom, and the deaths of investigators from universities and such that went to try and test the waters, etc, then you will find that those oil companies play dirty when it comes to protecting their interests. So when it comes to free energy tech, what extent do you think they will go to dismiss it, troll forums, suppress(what ever it takes), etc. Look up stories of people that were at the gulf on vacation and got sick, went to doctors that said they had petrolium and Corexit poisoning, and what happened when complaints were made about it. Or the scientists and university people that tried to test the waters and what happened to them. Look up those 2 things and you will see how far the rabbit hole goes just because of an oil spill, let alone an FE relpacement. ;)

So its most likely not just the US that doesnt look kindly to free energy devices. Unless the US really has that much control over the world. Not sure really.

The SAWS document that I posted earlier the other day, sort of indicates the definite possibility of such devices and says pretty much how they will handle it if you try to pat such a device. lol, it mentions Tachions, I think that how to spell it, in the list of no no's. Maybe that is the particles Tesla was talking about?

So I dont think it is a real good idea to fully present a working device publicly. Yeah yeah, nobody will believe it unless it is fully shown and proven without doubt. Showing a vid of a claim doesnt really prove anything till someone replicates, and probably more than 1 working replication would be necessary to really get attention. But I think just a single vid, and if it were 'recognized' by 8) as the real thing, would be trouble for the maker of that vid very quickly. I have several good reasons to believe this to be true, including my great grandfather back in the 1910s getting threats from big oil and gov back then for his self runner. Great grand dad had dealings with Westinghouse back then on improvements to the air brake. He lived 60 miles out of Pittsburgh, where Westinghouse was, and I think its possible GGD knew Tesla. ??? ;D GGD built the first radio station in our town. Invented the mech that makes the horses go up and down on the merry go round, was one of the pioneers of the combustion engine. Some first models didnt us a cam on the intake valve, as they were just spring loaded and let air in on the intake stroke. ;) Before trying gas, they messed with fine powdered coal believe it or not. ;D Grandpa invented the pull tabs on soda and bear cans, the ones that pulled all the way off. Alcoa stole that from him. Invented one of the first no tools needed battery terminals for cars. Invented the Night Writer, hmm, hold on. Ill see if it is on the net..... lol there are so many knock offs its ridiculous...
https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0LEV1.MJUpT40EAmy1XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0MXFqZjRyBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDQxN18x?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-320&va=Night+Writer+pen

Looked more like the green one, 3rd row of pics down. But used 2 AAA batts and light bulb. He and another guy were competing in producing the first ones in the 60s. When they had shown their pens, the other guy had this big switch on the side. But Grandpa beat him out. The pen with cap was aluminum with the transparent end piece, very similar to the green one in the pic, but when you pulled off the cap, and slid it onto the top of the pen, that was how the pen turned on by making contact of the body of the pen and the top of the pen, with the cap as the conductor(switch) ;)

He tried to get pen and pencil companies to take a look at his ideas and none would even look at it. He got fed up and packaged it all up and sent it to the Japanese embassy in NY and in the letter he voiced his complaint about all the US pen companies and told them they can have it. 2 months later the sent him a letter sating they were already in production and that he could be a distributor at a very low cost for giving it to them as he did. ::) No luck in the family unfortunately. Or to say, no smarts when it came to dealing with the business end of inventing. ;)

Yep, my great grandfather and grandpa were inventors. I never read that post by Teets that he had the same. Thats the reason I requested a link to what you posted, because I thought you were quoting my story as if it was Titos. So, sorry about that.

Anyway, I didnt intend to write all that. lol Sometimes I just keep on goin, till my back hurts. ;D

Havnt done anything with the coil yet. Been workin. Should I run an insulated wire inside?

Night

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 13, 2014, 02:18:47 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 13, 2014, 02:12:36 AM

So I dont think it is a real good idea to fully present a working device publicly.

Was going to say, but went off kilter, that it is good to get out all the individual details of a working device before actually showing. This will ensure that the crowd here has all the bits and pieces as they read. Then when it is finally revealed as a whole, all the good details and stuff is out all ready. Would be hard to stop it then. ;) Well, thats one way I suppose. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 02:19:56 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on April 13, 2014, 02:12:36 AM
Well if you consider all the massive spying by the NSA, worldwide, there is something to say about who is top dog here on this lil blue drop in the universe. ;D

But there are others that have considerable interest in keeping these things we seek on the down low. If you have read up on the Gulf oil spill and Corexit used to disperse and sink the oil to the bottom, and the deaths of investigators from universities and such that went to try and test the waters, etc, then you will find that those oil companies play dirty when it comes to protecting their interests. So when it comes to free energy tech, what extent do you think they will go to dismiss it, troll forums, suppress(what ever it takes), etc. Look up stories of people that were at the gulf on vacation and got sick, went to doctors that said they had petrolium and Corexit poisoning, and what happened when complaints were made about it. Or the scientists and university people that tried to test the waters and what happened to them. Look up those 2 things and you will see how far the rabbit hole goes just because of an oil spill, let alone an FE relpacement. ;)

So its most likely not just the US that doesnt look kindly to free energy devices. Unless the US really has that much control over the world. Not sure really.

The SAWS document that I posted earlier the other day, sort of indicates the definite possibility of such devices and says pretty much how they will handle it if you try to pat such a device. lol, it mentions Tachions, I think that how to spell it, in the list of no no's. Maybe that is the particles Tesla was talking about?

So I dont think it is a real good idea to fully present a working device publicly. Yeah yeah, nobody will believe it unless it is fully shown and proven without doubt. Showing a vid of a claim doesnt really prove anything till someone replicates, and probably more than 1 working replication would be necessary to really get attention. But I think just a single vid, and if it were 'recognized' by 8) as the real thing, would be trouble for the maker of that vid very quickly. I have several good reasons to believe this to be true, including my great grandfather back in the 1910s getting threats from big oil and gov back then for his self runner. Great grand dad had dealings with Westinghouse back then on improvements to the air brake. He lived 60 miles out of Pittsburgh, where Westinghouse was, and I think its possible GGD knew Tesla. ??? ;D GGD built the first radio station in our town. Invented the mech that makes the horses go up and down on the merry go round, was one of the pioneers of the combustion engine. Some first models didnt us a cam on the intake valve, as they were just spring loaded and let air in on the intake stroke. ;) Before trying gas, they messed with fine powdered coal believe it or not. ;D Grandpa invented the pull tabs on soda and bear cans, the ones that pulled all the way off. Alcoa stole that from him. Invented one of the first no tools needed battery terminals for cars. Invented the Night Writer, hmm, hold on. Ill see if it is on the net..... lol there are so many knock offs its ridiculous...
https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0LEV1.MJUpT40EAmy1XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0MXFqZjRyBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDQxN18x?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-320&va=Night+Writer+pen

Looked more like the green one, 3rd row of pics down. But used 2 AAA batts and light bulb. He and another guy were competing in producing the first ones in the 60s. When they had shown their pens, the other guy had this big switch on the side. But Grandpa beat him out. The pen with cap was aluminum with the transparent end piece, very similar to the green one in the pic, but when you pulled off the cap, and slid it onto the top of the pen, that was how the pen turned on by making contact of the body of the pen and the top of the pen, with the cap as the conductor(switch) ;)

He tried to get pen and pencil companies to take a look at his ideas and none would even look at it. He got fed up and packaged it all up and sent it to the Japanese embassy in NY and in the letter he voiced his complaint about all the US pen companies and told them they can have it. 2 months later the sent him a letter sating they were already in production and that he could be a distributor at a very low cost for giving it to them as he did. ::) No luck in the family unfortunately. Or to say, no smarts when it came to dealing with the business end of inventing. ;)

Yep, my great grandfather and grandpa were inventors. I never read that post by Teets that he had the same. Thats the reason I requested a link to what you posted, because I thought you were quoting my story as if it was Titos. So, sorry about that.

Anyway, I didnt intend to write all that. lol Sometimes I just keep on goin, till my back hurts. ;D

Havnt done anything with the coil yet. Been workin. Should I run an insulated wire inside?

Night

Mags

Magpie, sorry to hear about your back problem. Have you tried yoga ? That can permanently cure it.

:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 13, 2014, 02:24:33 AM

Just looking through those pics of light pens. He did that back in the 60s. In the late 80s early 90s there was a movie that in a big business meeting, it was a big oval table, every one at the table had one of those pens. Cant remember the movie. Was neat to see though. ;D

ok now beddybye ;)

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 02:25:20 AM

NASA and US Navy already have these system in use. We need to get info about them and how and why they work. Everything can be explained basis current scientific knowledge. Its just a smart arrangement of common parts.
Nothing strange or mysterious about it. We dont need degrees in Quantum Mechanics to understand it. Even a TV mechanic can make once he knows the arrangement.

Just my 0.2 pennies. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 13, 2014, 02:56:09 AM

Quote from: Google on April 12, 2014, 10:14:20 PM
The atom consists of the nucleus and the electrons, therefore electrons exist inside atoms, in fact, most of the atom is space occupied by the electron cloud.

is electron cloud free in space? or are there more electron than Protons?
hm.....
i want to change nucleus of atom portion to become ie 79 , ;D ;D ;D

Quote
.....
.....

Electrons do exist outside the atom also.

1. Beta decay. A beta particle (which is essentially an electron) is emitted from the nucleus of an atom of a radionuclide. This is not part of the atom any longer and thus exists outside any atom.

2. Vacuum tubes that use either a high voltage potential alone or a combination of high voltage and heated cathode to cause the emission of electrons from their atoms. Examples would include, CRT's, Crookes tubes, and X-ray tubes.

so, is atom become unstable ?

Quote

Additionally, materials can be made to emit electrons by the addition of certain compounds, usually radioactive, in a process called thermionic emission. While thermions refers to any particle emitted as a result of high temperature, with or without a doping agent, the emission of an electron would count.

Examples: Aluminum is sometimes alloyed or sintered with thorium compounds to enhance it's thermionic properties.

Just as an electron is a part of an atom, so are neutrons and protons, all three of which can exist outside of the atom. These three particles are building blocks that take place in many other reactions. However, it is not necessary for them to only exist inside or as a part of the atom. Electrons can actually jump from atom to atom to move charge (this is how electricity works) or be transferred back and forth (this is how a chemical bond works).

Ionized atoms liberate at least one electron, which can be used, beamed, etc. The cathode ray tube used in television use an electron beam, those are electrons that are gathered, and accelerated using a potential difference, through a vacuum tube, towards a target that contains a phosphor, a chemical that will glow when hit by electrons.

what gas or metal will be best to liberate electron ? without radioactive,

Quote

The nucleus contains protons and neutrons. Protons have positive charge and neutrons are neutral. Electrons have a negative charge, so the electrons are attracted toward the nucleus. This is similar to a satellite orbiting the earth.....

what is proton and neutron consist of ?

Quote

Electrons 'move' in an orbital (they do not orbit the nucleus but rather appear in certain spots around it). It is not possible to predict where the electron would go but it normally stays within its shell (can be oddly shaped) and near the nucleus. They are usually repelled by other electrons. The electron do not orbit but movement can be explained by an orbital.

Einstein deceived the world. Where is our common sense gone ?

Google.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 13, 2014, 02:58:38 AM

Quote from: Google on April 12, 2014, 10:41:18 PM
Discovery of lost secret of moray radiant energy system.

Moray generated 50 KW by using a 30 yard antenna supported on two tent poles five feet high. He only used crystal radio era electronic parts.

Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHTCZu8OZtI

:)

File is big, maybe later.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 13, 2014, 03:02:47 AM

Quote from: Google on April 12, 2014, 10:46:27 PM
The enclosed pdf may be of some interest to some of us. :)

Elgoog.

Can you make simple paragraph, not more than 5 paragraph, without high technical explanation, regarding his device only. :o
, No, ok ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 13, 2014, 03:07:09 AM

Both of you google and your uncle, can you explain how light travel from sun to the earth ?,
are the light wave and sound wave, just the same thing except its frequency?

never mind ,just a wild question. ;D ;D ;D

mag, i can say nothing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 04:08:13 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 13, 2014, 03:07:09 AM
Both of you google and your uncle, can you explain how light travel from sun to the earth ?,
are the light wave and sound wave, just the same thing except its frequency?

never mind ,just a wild question. ;D ;D ;D

mag, i can say nothing.

;D Uncle forced me to go technical. I hate going technical on public forums. Keep it simple & smart. Now Uncle has disappeared. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Light doesnt travel from sun to earth. Its actually earth that travels to catch sunlight. ;D ;D ;D ;D
His friend Doctor Debunker has also disappeared. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dont test peoples knowledge. Better share yours and let them share theirs. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I will cook, you pickup and chew. I cant chew for you. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-X

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 07:10:17 AM

Oh sorry, I spammed with smileys. ??? ??? ::) :P :P ::) :'( :-\ :-X :-[ :-[ :'( :-\ :-* :-[ :P

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 08:34:40 AM

Here's a good watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2W5jaxKlgU

Personally I believe its about charge separation and keeping the charges separated until they can be harvested.

An ion generator separates charge using two electrodes an ion cloud of opposite polarity accumulates around both electrodes.

Where are these charges coming from............the tension created by the separated charges pulls air molecules apart, combined they are neutral, apart they are energetic. simple.

If the electrodes are brought into a close proximity to each other the ion clouds will merge back together and become neutral again, this is how static eliminators work.

But if kept separate the pos and neg charges can be collected using a magnetic field.

A magnetic field can be ionized this is what happens when a solar flare hits the earths magnetic field.

A simple iron ring without any windings on it can and does keep charges separated.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 08:40:47 AM

This iron ring separates 300 kv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkh7_Eyctw

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 13, 2014, 08:42:21 AM

Quote from: Google on April 13, 2014, 04:08:13 AM
;D Uncle forced me to go technical. I hate going technical on public forums. Keep it simple & smart. Now Uncle has disappeared. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Too much technical discussion is boring, not everyone can follow, including me sometime,
but "cloud electron" is interesting. ;)

Quote
Light doesnt travel from sun to earth. Its actually earth that travels to catch sunlight. ;D ;D ;D ;D
His friend Doctor Debunker has also disappeared. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Maybe....... ::) ::) ::) or, battery never produce electricity.
So doctor also visited your restaurant,

Quote
Dont test peoples knowledge. Better share yours and let them share theirs. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I am sorry for that. if you think it so, :'( :'( :'( :P :P :P ;D ;D

Quote
I will cook, you pickup and chew. I cant chew for you. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-X

;D ;D ;D

Thanks, most of time i need to know my lunch menu, of course unless there is no choice.. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 08:54:44 AM

Ionosphere just the name alone should tell us alot, the combined charges are the dielectric that keep the charges separated.

ionosphere (pos)
--------------------------------------------------------
atmosphere (combined charges - neutral) - dielectric layer
----------------------------------------------------------
earth (neg)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 09:21:39 AM

Look at tree's in the winter when the leaves are gone.

Looks like a lightning strike, charge seeking an opposite charge.

physics is the study of nature, Gods creation.

The extra ring accumulated around the planet after a solar flare would explain sprites.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 13, 2014, 09:38:17 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 08:34:40 AM

A simple iron ring without any windings on it can and does keep charges separated.

Nice point David! Now if you have windings on the iron ring with some short of dc voltage on it lets say from a battery, it will trap the charges inside the coil, it will separate them, and you can extract power through a load which is in parallel with the battery and the coil. I have read something similar once but still didnt play with!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on April 13, 2014, 09:51:11 AM

If anyone knows how to make a high freq signal to ride on a 50hz or combination of Two /mixing the Two frequency would be a great circuit. Any possible circuits are welcome. :D :D

Thanks in advance.

Meow ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 10:04:11 AM

Quote from: Jeg on April 13, 2014, 09:38:17 AM
Nice point David! Now if you have windings on the iron ring with some short of dc voltage on it lets say from a battery, it will trap the charges inside the coil, it will separate them, and you can extract power through a load which is in parallel with the battery and the coil. I have read something similar once but still didnt play with!

Yes or you could use it to separate two solenoid coils one collecting pos and one collecting neg, the ring would keep the ion clouds from recombining allowing the charges to be collected.

The problem with ions is they seek opposite charge so pos ions will move towards the ground and neg ions will move upward towards the ionosphere.
But if the iron ring were positioned (vertically) sorry I meant horizonally and the neg ions were generated under it the ions would tend to rise but couldnt because of the ring, and the same would be true for the pos ions they would tend to move down but the iron ring would prohibit them as well.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 10:08:50 AM

:o ;D ;)
sorry I had it upside down
and I meant horizontal not vertical (lost in thought)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 10:25:24 AM

SM's TPU only worked one way,,,,,,,,was he separating charge?

If upside down the charges would move away from the iron ring.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 10:28:53 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on April 13, 2014, 09:24:45 AM
All theory and high expectations aside. Can anyone participating in this discussion demonstrate a circuit which is operating in UNITY. Specifically where the electrical input equals the electrical output. If we can't demonstrate a system of our OWN construction operating in unity, how can we hope to demonstrate a system which produces more than it consumes?

Regards

Sir ERfinder. I am a big fan of yours. :) I have acquired a 30 sq yard lab just now to start serious tinkering. Getting all required equipment.

Enclosing something interesting. Dunno whether Unity or not. :( Yet to work on it.

Kind regards. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 10:31:07 AM

Quote from: stupify12 on April 13, 2014, 09:51:11 AM
If anyone knows how to make a high freq signal to ride on a 50hz or combination of Two /mixing the Two frequency would be a great circuit. Any possible circuits are welcome. :D :D

Thanks in advance.

Meow ;D ;D

Hey what naughty thing you are planning. ;D

Bow Wow !! ;D ;D ;D

Title: Free Electricity With Hydrogen Filled Condoms.
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 10:38:50 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 08:54:44 AM
Ionosphere just the name alone should tell us alot, the combined charges are the dielectric that keep the charges separated.

ionosphere (pos)
--------------------------------------------------------
atmosphere (combined charges - neutral) - dielectric layer
----------------------------------------------------------
earth (neg)

A 500 yards antenna will generate tonnes of Kilowatts. ;) Look for atmospheric electricity patents involving baloons filled with helium and pointed metallic surface area. A couple of hydrogen filled condoms , each wrapped with thin aluminium foil and a thin copper wire twisted around the thread tied to the mouth of each condom can be a simple test.

This wire and an earth wire will have tons of voltage between them. ;D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 13, 2014, 10:41:14 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on April 13, 2014, 09:24:45 AM
All theory and high expectations aside. Can anyone participating in this discussion demonstrate a circuit which is operating in UNITY. Specifically where the electrical input equals the electrical output. If we can't demonstrate a system of our OWN construction operating in unity, how can we hope to demonstrate a system which produces more than it consumes?

Regards

Dear Erfinder.
I write just for coming in touch with your spirit in case some extra energy form your system will flow in to mine! :)

For me all systems are unity no matter what we give and/or what we take. What we have to do is to learn how to use the other half of the truth and this is the second side of the same coin. By this completeness we will be in a position to compensate for the losses of our conventional systems by attracting energy from the outside of the system environment. This leads to OU or to real Unity as you wish to call it. How can this be accomplished? There are many ways to do it but the main concept is to create the so called sink. The higher potential goes to the lower potential trying to find the balance which is a natural tendency. And this tendency of nature to find the balance can give us with the right use of our current tech real and free power.

Tnks
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 13, 2014, 10:50:26 AM

Quote from: stupify12 on April 13, 2014, 09:51:11 AM
If anyone knows how to make a high freq signal to ride on a 50hz or combination of Two /mixing the Two frequency would be a great circuit. Any possible circuits are welcome. :D :D

Thanks in advance.
Meow ;D ;D

Stupify.
I already described a way but perhaps you missed it. It works great though. If your primary is a mosfet, then supply it with a fullwave or halfwave rectified dc from mains with out smoothing capacitor. Then you create bursts of 100Hz or 50Hz containing the HF oscillations.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 10:52:50 AM

This would explain the behavior of the TPU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 10:55:09 AM

Jeg, JB Uncle, David.... and all !

You must have heard of Pavel Yablochkov and his simple but intelligent electrostatic overunity assymetric capacitors (leyden jars to be precise) .

IMHO its a simple but effective OTHER HALF thing. ;) ;)

Sorry everyone for premature ej.......... ;D ;D I couldnt wait for the climax. ;D ;D

Enclosed in french.. translate and have phun. ;D ;D

Oh I again spammed by using many smileys. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 11:20:23 AM

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11574-jablochkoffs-patent-no-120684-regarding-electrostatics-ionization.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 13, 2014, 11:35:51 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 10:52:50 AM
This would explain the behavior of the TPU

I am trying to follow you but i have some difficulties. What is your consideration? I see coils in your design that separate the charges by themselves. Why you need the iron ring?

Google you are always two steps in front of us. You are like an alive wikipedia! :D Can you combine all this info that you post inside here? Then i am sure that something good will occur. When i see asymmetric capacitors, lifter comes in to my mind, anti gravity and electrical imbalance which leads to one side pressure. Do you think that a capacitor like that can work as a diode at the same time?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on April 13, 2014, 11:36:45 AM

If you dont mind could you show me some example circuit on what you just describe. :-[

I am about to make plans for a Tesla coil which actually we know that design to produce HV HF circuit to ride on with 50 to 60hz. So that the resulting spark gap discharge on my Tesla Transmission will be a 50 to 60hz impulse or burst of condense energy. In that way I can easily extract the energy on the Output Coils with no more complicated frequency filter and other annoying circuits. Hehehe ;D ;D

@Jeg I know you understand very well what I was talking on this post. Thanks very much for the info about the 50 to 60hz though I appreciate it! ::) ::)

Meow 8) 8)

Quote from: Jeg on April 13, 2014, 10:50:26 AM
Stupify.
I already described a way but perhaps you missed it. It works great though. If your primary is a mosfet, then supply it with a fullwave or halfwave rectified dc from mains with out smoothing capacitor. Then you create bursts of 100Hz or 50Hz containing the HF oscillations.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 11:41:49 AM

Quote from: Jeg on April 13, 2014, 11:35:51 AM
I am trying to follow you but i have some difficulties. What is your consideration? I see coils in your design that separate the charges by themselves. Why you need the iron ring?

Google you are always two steps in front of us. You are like an alive wikipedia! :D Can you combine all this info that you post inside here? Then i am sure that something good will occur. When i see asymmetric capacitors, lifter comes in to my mind, anti gravity and electrical imbalance which leads to one side pressure. Do you think that a capacitor like that can work as a diode at the same time?

The coils create ion clouds, if in close proximity the charges will recombine, like static eliminators, the ring keeps the charges separated then they can be collected.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 12:01:14 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 11:41:49 AM
The coils create ion clouds, if in close proximity the charges will recombine, like static eliminators, the ring keeps the charges separated then they can be collected.

Not so complex. :o, you need to correct your direction. TPU has nothing to do with charge separation. Rest is your wish. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 12:03:48 PM

Do we really need to discuss Kapanazde and TPU in this thread ? ::) ::)

I thought it was to discuss Energy Amplification techniques. >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 12:06:10 PM

Please start discussing Energy Amplification techniques. >:( >:( >:(

There are already many threads discussing Kapanazde and TPU. >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on April 13, 2014, 12:14:33 PM

We are already discussing Energy Amplication techniques here, if you do understand that every so called free energy device runs on a simple but novel design which Tesla has showed many years ago. Every device which we call Energy Amplication is all base on Tesla novel ideas and design. The device that I am replicating right now I guess I could categories it on Energy Amplication on a simple way.

Meow ;D ;D

Quote from: Google on April 13, 2014, 12:06:10 PM
Please start discussing Energy Amplification techniques. >:( >:( >:(

There are already many threads discussing Kapanazde and TPU. >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 13, 2014, 12:59:24 PM

Quote from: stupify12 on April 13, 2014, 11:36:45 AM
If you dont mind could you show me some example circuit on what you just describe. :-[

I am about to make plans for a Tesla coil which actually we know that design to produce HV HF circuit to ride on with 50 to 60hz. So that the resulting spark gap discharge on my Tesla Transmission will be a 50 to 60hz impulse or burst of condense energy. In that way I can easily extract the energy on the Output Coils with no more complicated frequency filter and other annoying circuits. Hehehe ;D ;D

@Jeg I know you understand very well what I was talking on this post. Thanks very much for the info about the 50 to 60hz though I appreciate it! ::) ::)

Meow 8) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 13, 2014, 01:01:58 PM

Quote from: Google on April 13, 2014, 12:03:48 PM
Do we really need to discuss Kapanazde and TPU in this thread ? ::) ::)

I thought it was to discuss Energy Amplification techniques. >:( >:(

Why not discuss these examples. The thread title is Energy Amplification. Most of the devices are just that. If you don't like the direction of chatter then maybe you should be more specific in your Thread Title. It is very relevant to the topic to talk about previous experiments and devices. I mean how do you expect to talk about energy amplification if it is not tied to a device to do this?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 13, 2014, 01:10:08 PM

Quote from: stupify12 on April 13, 2014, 11:36:45 AM
If you dont mind could you show me some example circuit on what you just describe

Look two posts above. If you need 60hz then after the step down transformer use a half bridge rectifier.

Well now that I see it with more concentration in your case you have to put a smoothing cap so to keep the drain voltage just a little more than gate's drive voltage. The bigger the ripple that you have at 60 or 120hz the better. Just don't leave it going lower than your gate.

If you don't know how to calculate the right smoothing cap, tell me the gate drive voltage and your drain voltage dc supply..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on April 13, 2014, 01:53:29 PM

Thank you very much Jeg 8) I think I have already found the answer to this matter with your great help. With this info I can now easily make plans for a HV 50hz/60hz Tesla Coil to discharge on my Receiving Transformer for easier Energy Extraction. I believe this what Kapanadze did he has made a 50hz Resonant Oscillating circuit to create a HV potential on the Secondary for Energy Transmission.

TK did tell us on his 2004 video that the spark gap fires 50 times every 1 sec, That is all the info I needed to complete my device. Remember TK also said that if you research Tesla Transformator you can easily debunk the set up of my device.

I believe I already told you about the Tesla Transformator which TK was referring to. ;D ;D ;D

Meow 8)

Quote from: Jeg on April 13, 2014, 01:10:08 PM
Look two posts above. If you need 60hz then after the step down transformer use a half bridge rectifier.

Well now that I see it with more concentration in your case you have to put a smoothing cap so to keep the drain voltage just a little more than gate's drive voltage. The bigger the ripple that you have at 60 or 120hz the better. Just don't leave it going lower than your gate.

If you don't know how to calculate the right smoothing cap, tell me the gate drive voltage and your drain voltage dc supply..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 13, 2014, 02:34:51 PM

I am very glad that it fits to your design. It is simple and quick.
Good luck on what you are doing, even you don't need my wishes...! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 03:00:54 PM

Quote from: Google on April 13, 2014, 12:01:14 PM
Not so complex. :o , you need to correct your direction. TPU has nothing to do with charge separation. Rest is your wish. ;)

Its a logical approach, if you think the TPU and Kapandze are not energy amplification Id like to know what is.

And if I remember right Tito started this thread, no offense ;)

later
dave

Its all charge separation

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 07:05:08 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 03:00:54 PM
Its a logical approach, if you think the TPU and Kapandze are not energy amplification Id like to know what is.

And if I remember right Tito started this thread, no offense ;)

later
dave

Its all charge separation

Ok no problem, carry on. I will also contribute to the max I can but too many tangents. >:( >:( >:(
And please use language that all can understand. How will a coil create ion cloud ? How will a coil create charge separation. ? >:( >:(

Kind regards.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 07:14:48 PM

Sir David, Just an humble suggestion. You get too much carried away easily. Sometimes by E fileds, sometimes by magnetic flux lines, sometimes with OTHER HALF and cloud of ions. >:( >:(

Sorry but sorry. :-X :-X

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 07:19:26 PM

Oh yeah my IQ is in -ve. >:( :( >:(

Quote from: stupify12 on April 13, 2014, 12:14:33 PM
We are already discussing Energy Amplication techniques here, if you do understand that every so called free energy device runs on a simple but novel design which Tesla has showed many years ago. Every device which we call Energy Amplication is all base on Tesla novel ideas and design. The device that I am replicating right now I guess I could categories it on Energy Amplication on a simple way.

Meow ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 07:33:12 PM

What I meant : there are already many threads discussing those devices, lets join those discussions in that case.

What I meant : its a better strategy to discuss basic techniques based on Moray. Hubbard coil amplifying transformer etc. Those are simple and successful.

TPU is not successful, it heats up. Even Bruce_TPU has spent 7 years but not succeeded. He is unable to get any output except a couple of watts.

Tito wasted 5 years confusing everyone. >:( >:( >:( of course he gave birth to this thread but he could not nurture it. He just played games. >:( >:( >:( He wasted time and effort of others. >:( >:(

You want to waste 7 more years, please be my guest.

Lets waste time. >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 07:42:08 PM

Lets also discuss hopegirl, wayne travis, mylow, richard willis, jmmjubilo, perendev, osamu ide, captret, crystal cells, energy from gravity, rodin maths, human hair solar cells, ...............

Lets waste time discussing failed technologies. >:( >:(

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>:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 07:47:23 PM

Oh how could I forget the current hot favourite of Koala Tinsel.

The great grand ROSEMARY AINSLIE. >:(

Lets discuss her circuit. Its COP > 17 ;D ;D

>:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 13, 2014, 08:01:52 PM

Google,
Your multiple posts of sarcasm and name calling are a huge distraction. You are insulting a lot of people's intelligence and good will, by presuming they should proceed the way you wish to proceed, and then making fun of them when they differ in opinion. The items you are making fun of have been raised before within the context of this thread. It is your ongoing, distracting posts of sarcasm, name-calling and insults that are problematic here. Either have some respect, or please leave.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 08:08:36 PM

Dear Bob,

Why dont you put me on ignore list.

Quote from: Bob Smith on April 13, 2014, 08:01:52 PM
Google,
Your multiple posts of sarcasm and name calling are a huge distraction. You are insulting a lot of people's intelligence and good will, by presuming they should proceed the way you wish to proceed, and then making fun of them when they differ in opinion. The items you are making fun of have been raised before within the context of this thread. It is your ongoing, distracting posts of sarcasm, name-calling and insults that are problematic here. Either have some respect, or please leave.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 08:20:24 PM

::) ::)

Please also use Report to Moderator button. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 08:28:50 PM

Ohhh. ! I stepped on some toes. They are swollen. Sorry if it hurts. :-[ :-[

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 08:55:09 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 13, 2014, 11:20:23 AM
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11574-jablochkoffs-patent-no-120684-regarding-electrostatics-ionization.html

Those who do not see energy amplification in Jablochkov's patent, please raise your hands. ;D ;D

I recall what our wise friend a.king21 always says, Electrostatic Systems Have A COP of 2 minus system losses.

----- Cockroach in the gutter of free energy ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 13, 2014, 09:50:38 PM

I am not posting no more. Be happy now. :-X :-X

Bye everyone, best wishes and sorry for hurting. :-\ :-\

GOODBYE :-X and PERMANENT LOGOUT FROM YOUR THREAD. :( :( :-X :-X

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 13, 2014, 10:45:32 PM

Quote from: Google on April 13, 2014, 08:55:09 PM
Those who do not see energy amplification in Jablochkov's patent, please raise your hands. ;D ;D

I recall what our wise friend a.king21 always says, Electrostatic Systems Have A COP of 2 minus system losses.

----- Cockroach in the gutter of free energy ;D

Re Jablochov: Thanks for that, I can have a go at it.
Meanwhile Benitez in this patent:- http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191514311A.pdf
Uses the same principle, but makes it a self runner.
He states that a high voltage on the inner coating of a condenser causes the outer to receive a charge. He then keeps grounding the charge through a Tesla type switch and pumps the electrostatic ground surge through a trafo.

Remember: electrostatic induction is buy one get one free. lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 13, 2014, 11:04:26 PM

Quote from: Google on April 13, 2014, 09:50:38 PM
I am not posting no more. Be happy now. :-X :-X

Bye everyone, best wishes and sorry for hurting. :-\ :-\

GOODBYE :-X and PERMANENT LOGOUT FROM YOUR THREAD. :( :( :-X :-X

::) Just like Tito. Pretty much a replica of Tito. ??? ;) Funny aint it? :o ;) And just like Tito, you will be back, despite that posting. Pretty much guaranteed. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on April 13, 2014, 11:59:46 PM

Final Secret of OU.

Electromagnetic induction is overunity
Magnetic remanence prohibit overunity
Magnetic remanence can be reduce by adding airgap to the magnetic core
Magnetic remanence can also be reduce by adding magnet to the core
Adding magnet increases magnetic permeability of the magnetic core
Increasing magnetic permeability increases overunity cop
Increasing frequency also increases cop

This is the result of all my research in various magnetic based overunity device. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on April 14, 2014, 01:10:19 AM

Quote from: Google on April 13, 2014, 07:33:12 PM
What I meant : there are already many threads discussing those devices, lets join those discussions in that case.

What I meant : its a better strategy to discuss basic techniques based on Moray. Hubbard coil amplifying transformer etc. Those are simple and successful.

Unfortunately, Moray's and Hubbard's devices were never successfully replicated. Moray himself was unable to replicate his original device. His children made some profit selling stories about their father.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 14, 2014, 04:36:18 AM

What are you doing now Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 14, 2014, 08:56:53 AM

I wish everyone would stay and get along :)
The problem with transformers is self induction in the primary, this causes reactive power thats why we use charging chokes using a single winding or bifilar you want self induction all you can get and then some.

One of our Russian brothers made a remark that the wires are the problem, to increase self induction you want a material that accepts electrons and protons easily------------Gold plate your coils.

Very easy using electrolysis.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on April 14, 2014, 09:14:43 AM

Dave, I believe your recent comment calls for an Ed Leedskalnin quote:

"I made a lot more electricity with steel than I ever made with copper."

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 14, 2014, 09:23:19 AM

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on April 14, 2014, 09:14:43 AM
Dave, I believe your recent comment calls for an Ed Leedskalnin quote:

"I made a lot more electricity with steel than I ever made with copper."

Regards...

Hmm one copper coil and one steel coil havent tried that ;) Thank You

That reminds me of a youtub vid Bedini did using and iron wound coil.

I'll see if I can find it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 14, 2014, 09:31:29 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 14, 2014, 08:56:53 AM
I wish everyone would stay and get along :)
.......... want a material that accepts electrons and protons easily------------Gold plate your coils.

Very easy using electrolysis.

That's my the direct question to google, but he refuse to answer.

and if know about others metal properties regarding electron, such as aluminum, copper and carbon. what's the different between these metal ?,

thank.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Babaji Ka Thullu on April 14, 2014, 09:34:13 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 14, 2014, 09:31:29 AM
That's my the direct question to google, but he refuse to answer.

and if know about others metal properties regarding electron, such as aluminum, copper and carbon. what's the different between these metal ?,

thank.

Silver plated copper wires is the answer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 14, 2014, 09:36:38 AM

Quote from: Marsing on April 14, 2014, 09:31:29 AM
That's my the direct question to google, but he refuse to answer.

and if know about others metal properties regarding electron, such as aluminum, copper and carbon. what's the different between these metal ?,

thank.

Tarnish a dielectric oxide layer that builds on the wire.
Gold does not tarnish.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 14, 2014, 09:36:57 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8vnHVV25tU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 14, 2014, 09:51:02 AM

Did you catch what he said about the bemf going through the diode it goes through the diode in the current direction, the bemf from this coil is current not voltage as with a copper coil.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D now you got me using smily's

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 14, 2014, 09:55:50 AM

Neg current heats up iron wire, but I wonder if high voltage bemf will?

Where can we order iron floral wire in spools all I can find in my small town is small lengths that are wound on a plastic paddle.
Hard to get the kinks out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 14, 2014, 10:13:34 AM

Like a blood hound on a trail boys

never give up 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on April 14, 2014, 11:23:45 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 14, 2014, 09:55:50 AM
Neg current heats up iron wire, but I wonder if high voltage bemf will?

Where can we order iron floral wire in spools all I can find in my small town is small lengths that are wound on a plastic paddle.
Hard to get the kinks out.

Dear Dave.

You could try this !!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GREEN-WIRE-FENCING-NETTING-PLANT-IVY-TWIST-TIE-TREE-SUPPORT-TYING-FIXING-GARDEN-/360611320881?pt=UK_H_G_Garden_Plants_Landscaping_Garden_Materials_ET&var=&hash=item53f61c1431

I have wound one of the transformers with this for the Akula 0083 replication !!

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 14, 2014, 12:15:58 PM

Quote from: Grumage on April 14, 2014, 11:23:45 AM
Dear Dave.

You could try this !!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GREEN-WIRE-FENCING-NETTING-PLANT-IVY-TWIST-TIE-TREE-SUPPORT-TYING-FIXING-GARDEN-/360611320881?pt=UK_H_G_Garden_Plants_Landscaping_Garden_Materials_ET&var=&hash=item53f61c1431 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GREEN-WIRE-FENCING-NETTING-PLANT-IVY-TWIST-TIE-TREE-SUPPORT-TYING-FIXING-GARDEN-/360611320881?pt=UK_H_G_Garden_Plants_Landscaping_Garden_Materials_ET&var=&hash=item53f61c1431)

I have wound one of the transformers with this for the Akula 0083 replication !!

Cheers Grum.

Thanks Grum
Will be watching your work with interest as usual
Great work
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 14, 2014, 01:31:51 PM

Lets do a thought experiment with transformers

We have current hitting the primary from both sides this induces a field in the secondary the fields are inducing current into each coil secondary and primary, the secondary as far as the primary is concerned acts like a primary.

The coils secondary and primary are trading energy back and forth which would be okay except the driving circuit is catching bemf or reactive power from the primary.

If you look at half wave rectification and full wave rectification you can see the transformer has pos bemf and neg bemf hitting both sides of the secondary, the same is true for the primary.............reactive power.

We can not shield the primary completely, so go with it.

A single coil on a core -- a choke doesnt have this problem it builds a field then that field collapses back into the coil, no secondary to induce reactive power into the primary.

I have my own thoughts about what the polarity's of alternating current truly are but most would not agree so I'll keep plugging along.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Babaji Ka Thullu on April 14, 2014, 07:56:04 PM

Wind primary first. Then wind a soft iron wire over it as a shield. Now wind the secondary. And see the magic. Courtesy: Dr. Tesla.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on April 15, 2014, 12:03:33 AM

naughty Sandeep.. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 15, 2014, 12:44:34 AM

Quote from: Babaji Ka Thullu on April 14, 2014, 07:56:04 PM
Wind primary first. Then wind a soft iron wire over it as a shield. Now wind the secondary. And see the magic. Courtesy: Dr. Tesla.

Which patent?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Babaji Ka Thullu on April 15, 2014, 01:14:38 AM

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naughty Sandeep.. ;D
[/quote]

बॉब स्मिथ की मां का साकीनाका ! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: From other Planet on April 15, 2014, 01:24:13 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on April 15, 2014, 12:44:34 AM

Which patent?

@a.king21: Im also interested in patent, but i found this link to an Nikolai Tesla text about iron wire: http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/Articles/sep_24_1890a.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Babaji Ka Thullu on April 15, 2014, 01:39:16 AM

THE ELECTRICAL ENGINEERSept 24, 1890

Tesla's New Alternating Motors

[139.)—I hope you will allow me the privilege to say in the columns of your esteemed journal a few words in regard to an article which appeared in Industries of August 22, to which my attention has been called. In this article an attempt is made to criticize some of my inventions, notably those which you have described in your issue of August 6, 1890.The writer begins by stating: "The motor depends on a shifting of the poles under certain conditions, a principle which has been already employed by Mr. A. Wright in his alternating current meter." This is no surprise to me. It would rather have surprised me to learn that Mr. Wright has not yet employed time principle in his meter, considering what before its appearance, was known of my work on motors, and more particularly of that of Schallenborger on meters. it has cost me years of thought to arrive at certain results, by many believed to be unattainable, for which there arc no numerous claimants, and times these is rapidly increasing like that of the colonels in the South after the war.That writer then good-naturedly explains the theory of action of the motive device in Wright's meter, which has greatly benefited me, for it is so long, since I have arrived at this, and similar theories, that I had almost forgotten it. He then Bays: "Mr. Tesla has worked out seine more or less complicated motors of this principle, but the curious point is that he has completely misunderstood the theory of the phenomena, and has got hold of the old fallacy of screening." This may be curious, but how much more curious it is to find that the writer in Industries has completely misunderstood everything himself. I like nothing better than just criticism of my work, even if it be severe, but when the critic assumes a certain "l'état c'est moi" air of unquestioned competency I want him to know what he is writing about. How little time writer in Industries seems to know about the matter is painfully apparent when he connects the phenomenon in Wright's meter with the subject lie has under consideration. His further remark, "He (Mr. Tesla) winds his secondary of iron instead of copper and thinks the effect is produced magnetically," is illustrative of the care with which he has perused the description of the devices contained in the issue of The Electrical Engineer above referred to.I take a motor having, say eight poles, and wrap the exciting coils of four alternate cores with fine insulated iron wire. When the current is started in these coils it encounters the effect of the closed magnetic circuit and is retarded. Time magnetic lines set up at the start close to the iron wire around the coils and no free poles appear at first at the ends of the four cores. As the current rises in the coils more lines are set up, which crowd more and more in the fine iron wire until finally the same becomes saturated, or nearly so when time shielding action of the iron wire ceases and free poles appear at the ends of the tour protected cores. The effect of the iron wire, as will be seen, is two-fold. First, it retards time energizing current; and second, it delays the appearance of time free poles.To produce a still greater difference of phase in the magnetization' of the protected and unprotected cores, I connect the iron wire surrounding the coils of the former in series with the coils of time latter, in which case, of course, the iron wire is preferably wound or connected differentially, after the fashion of the resistance coils in a bridge, seems to have no appreciable self-induction. In other cases I obtain time desired retardation in the appearance of the free poles on one set of cores by a magnetic shunt, which produces a greater retardation of the current and takes up at time start a certain number of the lines set up, but becomes saturated when the current in the exciting coils reaches a predetermined strength.In the transformer the same principle of shielding is utilized. A primary conductor is surrounded with a fine layer of laminated iron, consisting of fine iron wire or plates properly insulated and interrupted. As long as the current in the primary conductor is so small that the iron enclosure can carry all the lines of force set up by the current, there is very little action exerted upon a secondary conductor placed in vicinity to the first; but just as soon as the iron enclosure becomes saturated, or nearly so, it loses the virtue of protecting the secondary and the inducing action of the primary practically begins. What, may I ask, has all this to do with the "old fallacy of screening?"N. T.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 15, 2014, 06:45:03 AM

Quote from: Babaji Ka Thullu on April 14, 2014, 07:56:04 PM
Wind primary first. Then wind a soft iron wire over it as a shield. Now wind the secondary. And see the magic. Courtesy: Dr. Tesla.

Thank You a whole new realm of testing can now be done.

A transformer wound this way could be tested using half wave rectification and full wave rectification, and a scope of course.

Alot can be understood by studying the diodes in a circuit, they pass both pos and neg energy depending on their orientation to the transformer and circuit.

Sadly my scope is on the blitz the bnc connectors ground have came loose from the pcb.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 15, 2014, 07:22:17 AM

Also ED said that someone can use an iron wire for a secondary if there is not a core in the transformer, as iron can keep magnetic currents by attracting them and not let them leave the system during induction.

An other hint occurred from ED's teachings is about this asymmetric capacitors. If someone give voltage in the center, current will flow from the other pole inward. But because the other pole has a lot of bigger surface, then I suspect that the current which inflows is higher in analogy compare to what we feed the center. If now the outer bigger surface of the cap is connected to the earth through a transformer, then we have power in the secondary which is bigger than what we put in to the system through the center cap's pole.

By this, how can someone make a coil with the same characteristics as the asymmetric caps? By keeping variable inductance while the currents flows in. What is the appropriate form of a coil to accomplish this? Is it the cone?

Dave please feel free to share your opinion about diodes. I think we have the same opinion on that which is that current flows through a diode only from anode to cathode direction. Voltage pass only from cathode to anode. If someone use this knowledge then he can get what he wish by using the diode in a proper way. Diode is the only component that has this characteristic.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 15, 2014, 07:47:44 AM

Quotecurrent flows through a diode only from anode to cathode direction. Voltage pass only from cathode to anode

Exactly

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 15, 2014, 08:27:48 AM

I can smell an original Leedscalnier from a distance!!! :D

Few words to Google.

Perhaps you don't have the 'right' internet attitude for communication as i see it from my view, but i recognize to you the real researcher's passion which many times pushed us to see things that we haven't seen in the past. I personally thank you, and don't give up man. Continue your good work.

Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 15, 2014, 08:37:03 AM

From what I understand from Tesla's words the iron winding creates a magnetic shunt that shields the primary, thats very interesting, more than one layer may be needed as power is increased.
Id bet using a dielectric like fiberglass and resin over the iron winding would help as well.
Lets keep pushing toward the goal.
all the best
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 15, 2014, 09:06:16 AM

Before some years i used to experiment with metal detectors. If an EM wave hits copper and iron the same time, both of them create a 180 degrees difference response. Someone had used this characteristic and made a patent of an electromagnet that could attract copper instead of iron. The core was consisting of an iron bar with copper rings outside of it to alter the field. I ll try to locate it..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 15, 2014, 10:11:31 AM

I can not upload the file through my tablet. If someone can do it, please search in Google 'special electromagnet rex research ' PDF.
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 15, 2014, 11:17:08 AM

http://www.rexresearch.com/mrmagnet/Non-Ferrous-Magnet.pdf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on April 15, 2014, 11:34:19 AM

Quote from: Jeg on April 15, 2014, 09:06:16 AM
Before some years i used to experiment with metal detectors. If an EM wave hits copper and iron the same time, both of them create a 180 degrees difference response. Someone had used this characteristic and made a patent of an electromagnet that could attract copper instead of iron. The core was consisting of an iron bar with copper rings outside of it to alter the field. I ll try to locate it..

Hi Jeg,

The working principle is to induce eddy current by the input AC current in a non ferromagnetic metal first, then the field of the eddy currents are able to induce other eddy current in an also non ferromagnetic metal object and this latter induction will already be attractive.

So basically this is a lossy process, as you can read the last sentence at rex http://www.rexresearch.com/mrmagnet/mrmagnet.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/mrmagnet/mrmagnet.htm) :

"A final word of caution: the washers carry considerable current through them and get quite hot. Connect the magnets only when necessary."

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Babaji Ka Thullu on April 15, 2014, 12:19:40 PM

Induction cooker works on this principle. 8)

Baba ji ka thullu.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Babaji Ka Thullu on April 15, 2014, 12:23:26 PM

You can do a lot of wonderful things with induction cookplate. Remove its coil and replace with a bifi coil with same inductance and ohmic resistance and then MAGIC 8)

Baba ji ka thullu

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on April 15, 2014, 12:53:09 PM

Quote from: Babaji Ka Thullu on April 15, 2014, 12:23:26 PM
You can do a lot of wonderful things with induction cookplate. Remove its coil and replace with a bifi coil with same inductance and ohmic resistance and then MAGIC 8)

Baba ji ka thullu

Hi Babaji,

That is okay with the induction cooker and using there a bifilar coil, the question is whether you have found the wonder of getting more output power than what was put in? That would be the MAGIC indeed...
Any details you may share ? 8)

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on April 15, 2014, 01:23:18 PM

Quote from: Babaji Ka Thullu on April 15, 2014, 12:23:26 PM
You can do a lot of wonderful things with induction cookplate. Remove its coil and replace with a bifi coil with same inductance and ohmic resistance and then MAGIC 8)

Baba ji ka thullu

It seems you are still curious about the GEGENE,
If you get OU, don't forget to share with us. OK

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on April 15, 2014, 02:07:35 PM

@Jeg

Have to say thanks for the pdf.

Attached it here.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on April 15, 2014, 02:45:41 PM

Quote from: wattsup on April 15, 2014, 02:07:35 PM
@Jeg

Have to say thanks for the pdf.

Attached it here.

wattsup

Guys, see sometimes the "Download" section of this forum, you can find there sometimes an interesting stuff. The same file I uploaded a year ago, only under different title: "Electromagnets for attracting non-ferrous metals"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 15, 2014, 03:26:33 PM

http://home.comcast.net/~onichelson/VOLTGN.pdf

This is the results of using some very very expensive tools to see what is soo special about the bifilar coil. Just remember this was a solenoid wind and not the flat pancake wind.

FYI if anyone wanted to know.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 15, 2014, 08:01:15 PM

Quote from: Jeg on April 15, 2014, 10:11:31 AM
I can not upload the file through my tablet. If someone can do it, please search in Google 'special electromagnet rex research ' PDF.
Jeg

Very good article and a very interesting effect I wonder how this would react in a mag gen.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Babaji Ka Thullu on April 15, 2014, 08:22:57 PM

You can have many perpendicular collectors for overunity on both sides of the coil. O you can sandwitch the bifi pancake between two pancake collectors. Lot of fun there. Gegene has only one collector and no bifi transmission coil, it was in the box thinking. Think out of the box. 8)

I have not seen anyone playing with gegene as described above. 8)

Gegene with bifi makes a wonderful primary setup for a tesla coil also. 8)

Babaji ka thullu 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Babaji Ka Thullu on April 15, 2014, 08:24:44 PM

Quote from: jbignes5 on April 15, 2014, 03:26:33 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~onichelson/VOLTGN.pdf

This is the results of using some very very expensive tools to see what is soo special about the bifilar coil. Just remember this was a solenoid wind and not the flat pancake wind.

FYI if anyone wanted to know.

Thanks very much for sharing the file.

Thullu

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Babaji Ka Thullu on April 15, 2014, 08:26:29 PM

John Bedini uses 8filar coils. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on April 15, 2014, 09:56:03 PM

Quote from: wattsup on April 15, 2014, 02:07:35 PM
@Jeg

Have to say thanks for the pdf.

Attached it here.

wattsup

Yes, thanks for the pdf Jeg. ;) When I was about 10 or 11, there was a book at the library that had shown the same as the pdf, but not as extensive of complete understanding as the pdf. It was an old book then and Im 48. It was a book that had all sorts of electrical and electronic projects. Never built it. Didnt need one at the time.

When I was in electronics school after 3 years at VoTech, the theory teacher exclaimed that there were no magnets or electromagnets that were able to attract copper, aluminum and such, as we were on the subject at the time. I put my hand up and told him it wasnt true. ;) ;) And he argued strongly against my assertion. ;) ;) The next day in class, I had that book with me, as I commuted to Pittsburgh at the time and the library in my town was blocks away.

Once he had looked at it, he conceded that he had never heard of such a thing. But didnt deny an anyway that it could work, and thanked me for bringing the book that day. ;)

So it is not common knowledge really that it exists. Can anyone show a device or machine that uses such a coil? Its possible that it is used out there by big companies, but still, not in any Educational books that I have ever encountered. There may be some, But I can say that in my 5 years of electronics back then, I never met anyone that knew about it either till I had shown it to them.

My Mom used to like to play Bingo at the fire dept, and she brought me and my brothers along sometimes. There were lots of other kids there also so it was a fun time for us. This was before I had seen the library book. Just a kid. There was a lady across the table that used dimes as chips on her bingo cards. And when someone yelled BINGO! she would swipe a plastic box about the size of a deck of cards over her cards and it would pick up all the dimes. :o <--- Me And later when I had read the old book, I was reminded of that Bingo dime box immediately. ;)

I was about 8 at the time. My dad had got me 2 electronics kits around then, a 150 in 1 from Radio Shack, and the other was less listed projects, like 35 or so, but had components on plastic squares and a peg board to mount them. Each had 4 pegs that the wires clipped onto for connections. So I had some knowledge of electricity, electronics and lots of play with magnets. So the plastic box that picked up the dimes was a big surprise for me. I never asked her about it, I was shy. But I watched and imagined.

So this thing is old. And the only device I know of that could possibly have used this electromagnet config would be that dime Bingo box. Anybody ever see one? There were also bingo chips that were translucent, mostly red, with metal rings around the edge that a similar looking box with a magnet would be used to pick up the chips. I could not tell if the dime box had a switch/button, as I wasnt really looking for one as I thought it may have been a special magnet. But now, it probably had a side button, which could be used to drop the dimes easily in the container they were brought in, where the regular magnet box and translucent chips would have to be slide of the bottom of the pickup box with the standard magnet using their other hand.

I suppose playing bingo is a bit of work, considering people invent ways of playing it more easily to avoid picking up all the chips, pennys, dimes, by hand, off of all the cards they are playing once the individual game was over to prep for a new round. So if there was a company that made the Dime box, it was probably a good selling point as to it was one handed pickup of all the coins, and a release button. Now thinking about it, its possible there were 'electromagnet' translucent chips with metal rings pickeruppers so they could be easily dropped also. But the ones I had seen were manual peal off, 2 hands needed. ;)

Anyway, Just wanted to share that. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 15, 2014, 11:42:34 PM

Quote from: Babaji Ka Thullu on April 15, 2014, 08:22:57 PM
You can have many perpendicular collectors for overunity on both sides of the coil. O you can sandwitch the bifi pancake between two pancake collectors. Lot of fun there. Gegene has only one collector and no bifi transmission coil, it was in the box thinking. Think out of the box. 8)

I have not seen anyone playing with gegene as described above. 8)

Gegene with bifi makes a wonderful primary setup for a tesla coil also. 8)

Babaji ka thullu 8)

Right and that is why I put up the info about the voltage response of the bifilar. Also bifilar coils do not have a counter emf. That means a pulse would be instant or nearly so. The only reported resistance including Counter emf is the resistance of the wire itself. Parallel a few of the bifilar pancake coils and walla the real resistance is virtually gone. Think about what Bedini was doing, not for a motor but in the gegene method. Very sharp impulses that are not affected by counter emf, only real resistance. Hmmm...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bbem on April 16, 2014, 03:24:09 AM

Quote from: Loner on December 20, 2013, 01:13:36 AM
[/font]Even though no one has posted here for a while, I was led here from another post and felt I just had to comment because there seems to ALWAYS be a LOT of confusion about Tesla's comments about BiFi coils.

First, Tesla is referring to Flat coils for the most part. A standard coil wound BiFi has the almost the same type of effect, but would be a lot more complex to understand. The stray cap values introduced in a standard wind will be hard to determine, but the crossing of the cap values does destroy part of the effect. I won't get into those details for this, but be assured I have done my research here.

So, using a flat coil, wound normally, the internal cap value is from 1 turn to the next, as stated by Tesla in his patents. (100 turns, 100V, 1 Volt per turn!) Simple to see, right? Now wind BiFi, and connect in series and the picture is that the cap value has 1/2 the entire voltage across the coil ON EVERY TURN. (100 turns, 100V, 50V per turn!) This is on both sides of every turn, as well. I forget the number, but Tesla stated that it was somewhere in the order of 200000 times the energy storage.

If this doesn't explain the reasons for the increased power, then there is nothing I can do. It should also explain why a standard coil (solenoid type) has a different effect, as the windings on top of the layer below DO NOT have the entire 1/2 the cap value, so the internal interactions drastically decrease the external effects. (Try to imagine the larger cap values forcing small areas to reverse the flow and this should be obvious...) That little bit of info is from testing, not reading. I guess This will be ignored anyway, so I hope this info helps someone... Also please remember that open-ended coils are not linear with respect to current. (I.E. Different currents will flow at different points in the coil, contrary to what is taught in basic electronics. More advanced learning describes this, but not in such a simplified form.)

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 16, 2014, 06:20:42 AM

Anytime I see a bifilar coil I think of V8carlos and his work with bifilar's.
I wonder if he tried this

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 16, 2014, 06:51:39 AM

Since we got to talking about pancake coils
I was playing with a large speaker magnet and a magnet sphere, if the sphere is in the center of the ring magnet it seeks the inner edge, the magnetic field tends to push the sphere out of the magnetic field.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 16, 2014, 06:59:17 AM

I was wondering how a pancake coil would react in the center of the ring magnet would the magnetic field do the same with the electron, push it to the outside,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 16, 2014, 07:52:27 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 16, 2014, 06:59:17 AM
I was wondering how a pancake coil would react in the center of the ring magnet would the magnetic field do the same with the electron, push it to the outside,

Isnt this how an electric motor works the magnetic field tends to expel a current carrying wire.
Would the magnetic field accelerate the electron, trying to expel it.
There should be no bemf, just forward acceleration.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 16, 2014, 11:09:35 AM

Just met Mr Aviso and had a pep talk on energy amplification also got 4 boxes of special alkaline water
He's a nice guy and hope well meet again

Totoalas 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on April 16, 2014, 02:10:45 PM

Again let me show some light on the problem. One thing about nature is it doesn't need cables or wires to work. Why is that? Here is my approach and the approach of the new scientists we see today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EguwaPRmamY

Please watch this and really open yourself to the facts of what we see and the innovative explanations of the natural process from the newest breed of scientists.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 16, 2014, 11:18:21 PM

Quote from: totoalas on April 16, 2014, 11:09:35 AM
Just met Mr Aviso and had a pep talk on energy amplification also got 4 boxes of special alkaline water
He's a nice guy and hope well meet again

Totoalas 8)

Brilliant..but....
Did he show you a working device?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 16, 2014, 11:30:05 PM

Hello Tito

Goodbye Lenz.

How is the class doing??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x46bAPO24I

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 17, 2014, 02:29:49 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on April 16, 2014, 11:18:21 PM

Brilliant..but....
Did he show you a working device?

He has a motor no pictures and no comments as requested
He'll be bringing out is hydrogen unit soon
Maybe before 27 April I'll come back again for his alkaline water very effective in cleansing and weight reduction only one day to see the results

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 17, 2014, 07:55:42 PM

There is actually a very thin line between facts/reality and pseudo-science/snakeoil.,

http://www.purative.com/2012/01/scientists-say-dont-be-duped-by-alkaline-water/

Decide yourself, Aviso dealing in alkaline water is a non scientific man and so is his motor and inverter. Thats why still not approached by Nissan and Tesla Motors.

I will again be shunned by his fans who blindly believe that he is right. Right ?

Right !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 17, 2014, 08:07:48 PM

Google:- I think it's about time that the human rights of snake oil salesmen was protected.
Snake oil selling is a reputable business as is the business of those who don't know the
difference between their asses and a hole in the ground. lol

Seriously though it's nice to hear from you again.

I always had my suspicions about Aviso which is why I asked the million dollar
question.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 17, 2014, 08:22:05 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on April 17, 2014, 08:07:48 PM
Google:- I think it's about time that the human rights of snake oil salesmen was protected.
Snake oil selling is a reputable business as is the business of those who don't know the
difference between their asses and a hole in the ground. lol

Seriously though it's nice to hear from you again.

I always had my suspicions about Aviso which is why I asked the million dollar
question.

Thx king, You know I am a bad guy coz am too blunt and cold blooded. I do a lot of pooh poohing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 17, 2014, 08:46:24 PM

It is very difficult for a poor man to be honest. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 17, 2014, 11:36:24 PM

Quote from: Mr. Teslonian on April 02, 2014, 11:04:39 AM
MOST IMPORTANT :

Point No. 1. November 27, 2008, 10:10:01 AM

hi mr. stefan my name is Tito L. Oracion i discover the secret of sm, "its the igniter patent of nikola tesla" please try to review it.
----------------------------------------------------

Point No. 2. December 01, 2008, 11:35:51 AM

Sir, please bear with my english, i`m not used to speak for it, here is what i have done: just make a little modification ofcourse, i`ve made three parallel coil to the one that become high voltage and put a 3 collector perpendicular to that high voltage and thats it just like a tranformer, it gives unlimited energy and it is very controllable, and by dumping the one collector to the capacitor it becomes self powered, just a matter of on and off relay or reed relay, dont forget to use zener diode at least 3v.be very carefull, you can accidentally make an uncontrollable voltage that look like a tesla coil.its fun but very dangerous. try to make coil combination. there is a little secret here so you just try to discover it ,its very fun but dont forget the danger!!!!!!!!I love everybody so be carefull anyone."if power comes from coil then of course you can power everything just it depends on the design"do you know that we can also make an efficient electrolysis from this, belive me sir just make a try!!!!!! Thank you,Tito L. Oracion (Philippines)

------------------------------------------------------------

Point No. 3. December 02, 2008, 10:44:28 AM

I appologize sir.so sorry.i've read the interview of sm and he says "kick is the secret"in the first place how to produce kicks? and i've searched the patent of nikola tesla, igniter patent gives all the answer.using low voltage to high or unlimitted voltage is being produce.just consider it a little sir.i just used the basic transformer computation to get the coil size i want.so theres no really secret here. don't worry i will not post anything anymore.thank youtito

--------------------------

And thats it, nothing beyond that. Rest all created only confusion.

----- Mr. Teslonian

This?
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-609,250-electrical-igniter
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 17, 2014, 11:39:26 PM

Quote from: Mr. Teslonian on April 03, 2014, 07:37:50 AM
Wow !!! I must thank Mr tito now. Thank you very much Mr tito. I love you soooo much. I discovered how to generate multiple kicks from just one kick by using only one module. The series parallel technique of yours is lovely my dear mr tito. I reaaly admire your creativity and intelligence. 2nd part of the puzzle solved now. I can make many modules and make unlimited kicks from one source now. And it doesnt discharge the battery. HeeeeHaaaa.

Chidi Midi Chidi Midi Dhoom Dhadaka, Hoooo Haaaa, Hoooo Haaaa !!!

3 Cheers for Mr Tito !!!

Where is my coffee and cigarette man ?

---- Mr. Teslonian

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 17, 2014, 11:54:25 PM

http://pesn.com/2012/01/10/9602007_Interview_with_Bob_Smith_CEO_of_BB_Motor_Corp_LLC/

He he he 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 17, 2014, 11:55:29 PM

Quote from: Google on April 17, 2014, 11:54:25 PM
http://pesn.com/2012/01/10/9602007_Interview_with_Bob_Smith_CEO_of_BB_Motor_Corp_LLC/

He he he 8)

:o :o :o :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 18, 2014, 01:30:14 PM

Steorn may have failed but this pdf is a good reading. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 18, 2014, 05:08:19 PM

Again someones toes are hurting. ;D :D :D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 18, 2014, 07:39:24 PM

;D Njoy !! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 18, 2014, 07:45:39 PM

Theory of probability says there are only 1/1,000,000,000 chances in 1 of having two persons of same name Boobs Myth in a limited field of free energy in a 700,000,000,00 world population.
;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 18, 2014, 10:25:40 PM

Quote from: Google on April 17, 2014, 07:55:42 PM
There is actually a very thin line between facts/reality and pseudo-science/snakeoil.,

http://www.purative.com/2012/01/scientists-say-dont-be-duped-by-alkaline-water/

Decide yourself, Aviso dealing in alkaline water is a non scientific man and so is his motor and inverter. Thats why still not approached by Nissan and Tesla Motors.

I will again be shunned by his fans who blindly believe that he is right. Right ?

Right !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 18, 2014, 10:28:46 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on April 16, 2014, 11:18:21 PM

Brilliant..but....
Did he show you a working device?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 18, 2014, 10:30:32 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on April 17, 2014, 08:07:48 PM
Google:- I think it's about time that the human rights of snake oil salesmen was protected.
Snake oil selling is a reputable business as is the business of those who don't know the
difference between their asses and a hole in the ground. lol

Seriously though it's nice to hear from you again.

I always had my suspicions about Aviso which is why I asked the million dollar
question.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 18, 2014, 10:32:30 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsUXAEzaC3Q

>:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 18, 2014, 10:34:45 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on April 17, 2014, 08:07:48 PM
Google:- I think it's about time that the human rights of snake oil salesmen was protected.
Snake oil selling is a reputable business as is the business of those who don't know the
difference between their asses and a hole in the ground. lol

Seriously though it's nice to hear from you again.
.Ggigs thought you're gone false alar m

Too much link no nuggets yet

In fairness to Mr A viso he's helping cancer patients up to stage 4 while you're still missing back subjects in your studies yousaid you skip with too fast acceleration
Just WATCH AND LEARN
I always had my suspicions about Aviso which is why I asked the million dollar
question. A king thanks for your concern to Mr Aviso

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 18, 2014, 10:40:47 PM

I am back, will be done after differentiating between snake oil and fish oil. Seems someone is taking dealership of Aviso alkaline water and trying to promote his personal commercial interest on overunity.com. >:(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2J9F2sJMT4

Nice song by Eminem. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 19, 2014, 02:45:25 AM

Quote from: Google on April 18, 2014, 10:40:47 PM
I am back, will be done after differentiating between snake oil and fish oil. Seems someone is taking dealership of Aviso alkaline water and trying to promote his personal commercial interest on overunity.com. >:(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2J9F2sJMT4

Nice song by Eminem. ;
You're surely back it's better to contribute th than ENVY WHAT TITO HAS EARNED IN THIS THREAD RESPECT FROM MOST EVEN NOT ALL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 19, 2014, 05:02:35 AM

Quote from: totoalas on April 19, 2014, 02:45:25 AM

Yeah, there are two sets of people here. One who have a blind faith and dont use (un)common sense. And others who use common sense and personal judgement.

If you really believe Tito has something, please do, you have every right. And everyone respects your rights.

But the other set looks for proof which Tito failed. So its okay.

If tomorrow Tito start claiming that he is Barack Obama, who can stop him ? No one. But he doesnt become Obama in reality.

But people do have a right to laugh at heights of self delusion and high claims without an iota of evidence or coherence of a computer programmer who has no scientific background at all.

Well..... carry on stealing electricity from grid by joining transformers between neutral/phase and ground and keep on calling it free electricity. Good for you. Actually the world is full of people who dont know what they are doing and why they are doing.

Doesnt matter really.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 19, 2014, 05:11:20 AM

Playing with magnets, MOTs, coils, caps and multimeters is not real research. Its something else which most of the paper tiger philosophy professors here have no idea.

A research is based on sound scientific knowledge and proven work by other scientists. Any tom dick and harry claiming himself an alternate energy reseacher is not what he thinks of himself. But who cares. Keep on playing. Dont expect others to applaud fake claims. That much you can do.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 19, 2014, 06:58:09 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on April 16, 2014, 11:30:05 PM
Hello Tito

Goodbye Lenz.

How is the class doing??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x46bAPO24I

Google welcome back and keep going! ;)

Bob Smith Thanks for pointing out this. It seems that Mr Teslonian have managed to create HV with fast switching and from low voltage. Nice approach!

a.king21 what you showed us with this video is a very interesting characteristic that magnets have. It is also pointed out at Leedskalnin's book. And this is that in a vertical position, south and north poles are unequal in strength. North pole lifts more, and south pole pushes more. In a horizontal position they are equal in strength. If the same experiment will be demonstrated but in a horizontal direction, the result will be different as Lenz will be back again. In the same video experiment, if again you change the magnets direction (underneath magnet south looking up, upper magnet north looking down, then Lenz is here again and with more vitality and strength!!!

Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 19, 2014, 07:07:37 AM

Hi Jeg, tell me if I am wrong in what I just said and I will delete my posts. I am not hurting anyone. Its just that big people with seemingly great experience, talk from their hats sometimes. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 19, 2014, 07:22:16 AM

Quote from: Google on April 19, 2014, 05:02:35 AM
Yeah, there are two sets of people here. One who have a blind faith and dont use (un)common sense. And others who use common sense and pers

If you really believe Tito has something, please do, you have every right. And everyone respects your ri

But the other set looks for proof which Tito failed. So its okay.

If tomorrow Tito start claiming that he is Barack Obama, who can stop him ? No one. But he doesnt become Obama in reality.

But people do have a right to laugh at heights of self delusion and high claims without an iota of evidence or coherence of a computer programmer who has no scientific background at all.

Well..... carry on stealing electricity from grid by joining transformers between neutral/phase and ground and keep on calling it free electricity. Good for you. Actually the world is full of people who dont know what they are doing and why they are doing.

Doesnt matter really.

GIGGLE
MOST SPENT THEIR TIME HERE AFTER WORK YOU SPENT UR TIME writing B S
YOU RIDE ON OTHERS TO MAKE YOU FAMOUS THAT'S OK CARRY ON

NOW CAN YOU SHARE UR GOLD NUGGETS IN THIS FORUM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 19, 2014, 07:41:56 AM

Quote from: totoalas on April 19, 2014, 07:22:16 AM
GIGGLE
MOST SPENT THEIR TIME HERE AFTER WORK YOU SPENT UR TIME writing B S
YOU RIDE ON OTHERS TO MAKE YOU FAMOUS THAT'S OK CARRY ON

NOW CAN YOU SHARE UR GOLD NUGGETS IN THIS FORUM

Dear Toyota Altis,

;D ;D No I have no desire to be famous. Well everyone is riding on Teslas work. No one has original work of their own. I promised I will share Gold nuggests if Tito shares his secret. Hemcant make money by selling a free energy machine but he can make money by selling Gold. 8)

A word of free advice : Reading is as important as bench work. Imbalance in both leads to immature posts and videos, which one has to hide out of shame of realization of immaturity. ;D ;D
Yeah my words are BS and I am am free person. Yeah I have nothing to do in life. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 19, 2014, 08:05:26 AM

Dear Google, without 'wrong' then the 'right' looses its strength. You don;t need to erase your messages even if i believe something different. From my point of you, only experiment will guide you out of the darkness because no-one ever described it clearly how things work. Even Tesla kept his mouth closed. I am not judging one of the bigger minds in the whole history of physics, but this is the truth. And perhaps he was right, as many times in history was proved that no-one can appreciate the naked and without efforts truth. So, we are alone, helping each other to find the way. In this point of view, claims as Tito's ones, have to be considered again and again and again before rejecting them. It is easy and safe for me to reject them as wrong, but if he is not...i kept out of my eyes a piece of the truth. And this is not good...

Sorry for not being a good talker, so i return back to my bench. :)

Thanks
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 19, 2014, 08:27:36 AM

Quote from: Jeg on April 19, 2014, 08:05:26 AM
Dear Google, without 'wrong' then the 'right' looses its strength. You don;t need to erase your messages even if i believe something different. From my point of you, only experiment will guide you out of the darkness because no-one ever described it clearly how things work. Even Tesla kept his mouth closed. I am not judging one of the bigger minds in the whole history of physics, but this is the truth. And perhaps he was right, as many times in history was proved that no-one can appreciate the naked and without efforts truth. So, we are alone, helping each other to find the way. In this point of view, claims as Tito's ones, have to be considered again and again and again before rejecting them. It is easy and safe for me to reject them as wrong, but if he is not...i kept out of my eyes a piece of the truth. And this is not good...

Sorry for not being a good talker, so i return back to my bench. :)

Thanks
Jeg

I PMed Mr. Teslonian, he has made a collection of Titos posts and will post as a pdf here. Back to driving my Safari. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 19, 2014, 12:41:34 PM

A simple magnetic overunity toy. ;D

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Magnetic_Overunity_Toy

http://www.google.com/patents/US4215330

Please do not say that I do not contribute. >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 19, 2014, 08:14:19 PM

Toyota Altis,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzRee_yHeOs

Read this BS also ok ! Will open a lot of eyes. Where are you David ?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_circuit

Where is boobs myth ? ;D ;D ;D
----------
Thx Qwert. :)
Thanks Qwert, I corrected the web link.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 19, 2014, 08:23:20 PM

This one a good website for those who wanna know more about magnetism secrets. I am sure David will like it. ;D

http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tutorials/gallery/scwire.html

Learn learn learn ...... its never ending 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on April 19, 2014, 09:09:21 PM

Quote from: Google on April 19, 2014, 08:14:19 PM

Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzRee_yHeOs

Error! This is proper address:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzRee_yHeOs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 19, 2014, 09:49:38 PM

Quote from: Qwert on April 19, 2014, 09:09:21 PM
Error! This is proper address:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzRee_yHeOs

Thx Qwert.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 19, 2014, 10:04:58 PM

These are some leaked videos. ;D >:( :-X :o

http://www.govsecrets.com/video/all/10/1

:D >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 19, 2014, 11:49:32 PM

Maligayang Pasko ng Pagkabuhay Tito!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 20, 2014, 12:18:13 AM

Thinking about Steven Mark and his use of a magnet to get the TPU going. Teets also mentioned using a magnet. It occurred to me that SM might've been using the magnet to get the magnetic field in the iron core saturated. Larskro has an interesting demo with a Joule Thief, in which he uses a magnet to saturate the toroid's magnetic field, brightening the LED output. Watch from here onward:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NFowJ-SqEi8#t=56
I do think Tito's "antenna" is a copper coil, probably with a small cap. And somewhere between antenna input and inverter is also an iron wire coil, whose magnetic field can be saturated with a magnet as well.
Happy Easter everyone!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 20, 2014, 01:12:25 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMK0dEKWJdY

This guy is showing us the way.
Now look at this patent:
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191417811A.pdf

Same principle

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 20, 2014, 08:18:26 AM

otits
happy easter hard boiled balut na penoy
im just one hour drive from your lab
if ur readimg this u can pm me 8)
still have 1 week vacatoon left

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on April 20, 2014, 08:59:40 AM

Quote from: Google on April 19, 2014, 08:14:19 PM

...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzRee_yHeOs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzRee_yHeOs)
...

Hi Google,

You surely have seen a magnetic door latch (or lock) used in kitchens or in furniture where these devices include a simple rectangular permanent magnet, magnetized through thickness, and also include two pieces of soft iron plates with a certain thickness. The magnet is sandwitched between the two iron plates and when you attach the parallel plates to a magnetizable metal surface then the magnet is able to close both its poles via the outside surface and the edges of the plates, thus most of flux available in the magnet is used for attract force. When you use only one side of a magnet, the attract force is much lower to the same metal surface because it comes from a single pole and there is no or only a poor closed magnetic circuit. This is shown in the video.

Here is a link to such door latches or catches etc:
http://www.homedepot.com/s/magnetic+door+latch?NCNI-5 (http://www.homedepot.com/s/magnetic+door+latch?NCNI-5)

Often there are two magnets and three iron plates (sandwitched into a plastic or Alu case) to increase the attract force vs a single magnet with two plates. The surface area of the plates at their edges (where they touch a magnetizable surface) are smaller than their surface area touching the side of the permanent magnets, hence the total flux is "forced" to be concentrated into the smaller surface the plates edges possess, this is the "trick" i.e. magnetic flux guiding and focusing. Of course the saturation properties of the soft iron plates are important.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 20, 2014, 09:32:20 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 20, 2014, 05:25:03 PM

Errors in the theory of Electricity and Magnetism
http://www.bearsoft.co.uk/ErsEM.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 20, 2014, 05:38:33 PM

How to change the magnetic flux ??

1. Change the dimensions of the shape through which the magnetic field passes to adjust its area. Because the flux is equal to the magnitude of the magnetic field times the area through which the field passes, increasing the area will increase the magnetic flux and decreasing the area will lessen the flux.

2. Determine the direction of the magnetic field. If it is a small enough field, such as the field produced by a refrigerator magnet, sprinkling some iron shavings on a piece of paper will reveal the direction of the field lines. If the field is induced by a wire, use the right hand rule to find the field direction; that is, point your right thumb in the direction of the current and curl your fingers. Your fingers will indicate the direction of the field.

3. Change the angle of the area with respect to the magnetic field lines. Shallow angles between the field and the area are accounted for in the magnetic flux equation by multiplying the field strength by the area by the sine of the angle between the field lines and the area. If the area is perpendicular to the magnetic field lines, the flux will be at its maximum.

4. Change the magnetic field strength. This is the equivalent of increasing or decreasing the flow of water through a hose. If the field is made from an electromagnet, you can increase the current running through the coil or increase the number of coils to increase the magnetic field.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 20, 2014, 05:49:28 PM

This post is dedicated to David.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 20, 2014, 06:05:39 PM

This post is dedicated to Google ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 20, 2014, 06:13:14 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 20, 2014, 06:05:39 PM
This post is dedicated to Google ;D

;D

This number is dedicated to David. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE&feature=kp

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 20, 2014, 06:16:34 PM

http://www.academia.edu/5706191/Free_energy_devices_electronics

Patrick J Kelly Dec 2013 booklet of free energy.

This post is dedicated to again David. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 20, 2014, 06:33:33 PM

This pdf, devices that produce overunity, is dedicated to a.king21. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 22, 2014, 10:42:08 PM

Hey Kids!
Thought I'd throw this in the mix:
http://en.calameo.com/read/001092958cb05d08fd62a
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on April 23, 2014, 03:28:00 AM

I was thinking this back to back magnacoaster. If its true that collapsing magnetic field produces more power then we can make a self powered oscillating resonant circiut. ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 23, 2014, 10:03:33 AM

And the bell kept ringing forever..................................................................................................oo

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on April 23, 2014, 12:24:26 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on April 23, 2014, 03:28:00 AM
I was thinking this back to back magnacoaster. If its true that collapsing magnetic field produces more power then we can make a self powered oscillating resonant circiut. ???

And if it isn't true.... then we can't.
:'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 23, 2014, 04:22:05 PM

yes, we can ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 23, 2014, 06:15:35 PM

;D ;D ;D

Now things gettin hot

;D ;D :D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on April 23, 2014, 07:10:04 PM

Quote from: forest on April 23, 2014, 04:22:05 PM
yes, we can ;D

Feel free to demonstrate, don't hold back, you don't need to be shy here.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 23, 2014, 07:30:02 PM

Quote from: Google on April 23, 2014, 06:15:35 PM
;D ;D ;D

Now things gettin hot

YES!!!! BOOGER CAN!!!! ;D ;D ;D LOL BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

;D ;D :D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 23, 2014, 07:51:56 PM

Some very interesting things here about resonance in copper wire and coil tuning to 1/4 resonant wavelength. While it focuses on AC, it has some interesting content:
http://www.resonantfractals.org/Magnetism/GyroEffects.htm

Te portes bien, hermano! ;)
Nice to see you Teets.
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 23, 2014, 09:24:34 PM

Hi Bob your last couple of posts have been really interesting.

Hey Tito where ya been, good to see ya back :) :) :) :D

Its really simple

Charge separation

Opposites attract

A transformer can become positively or negatively charged

AC current does both and therefor neutralizes any ou effects, just like a static neutralizer.

Separate the legs and you create and ionizer, even a low voltage system creates ionization, the aether separates very easily, opposites attract.

Opposites attract, if you build a system using this principle you can pull in extra energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 06:46:21 AM

hhi! everyone nice to see you again everyone :D

Happy resurrection day to me too. ;D

@booger google, google booger what ever ;D
Do you want to hear and see the real otits? ;D ;D ;D
i'm more sexier and more beautiful than what you've got you know :P

By the way if i'm wasting others time in my style why are you copying it? ??? lol hahhahahhahahhah ;D ;D
ohh maybe you want an attention also as what you accuse me ;D ;D ;D

You know what if you are only using your brain, why are you looking for patents in the name of TITO L. Oracion
of course i'm not Tito L. Oracion :D
Tito L. Oracion is a fugitive criminal. and i was one of his victim.

am i going to explain why i used that name still? ???
And why i have to rent computers to log here?

You know what, that is brilliancy if somebody wants to tract me, understand? 8) 8) 8)

What kind of upgraded genius you are?, is that just boasting in your part or your just an upgraded retarded in your other part. >:(
Think BOOGER! >:(

Well sorry for that. i don't want to quarrel to anyone but you are always attacting me even i didn't do anything wrong with you. :(
it seems that you are making your self good to see for everyone and making me bad,
but don't worry i know that style.

you know what, if you want to become famous, ok use my thread but don't make anyone bad cause that's bad. :P :-[ :-[ :-[

And why you have to pmed mr. Teslonian if the gorilla in the forest is also the monkey in the city. :o ::) ??? 8) got that booger?

The case is simple! >:(
IF ANYONE DOESN'T WANT WASTE HIS TIME THEN DON'T GO HERE. :)
GOT THAT BOOGER! OR WILL I HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT FURTHER FOR AN UPGRADED GENIUS LIKE YOU. ;D

Sorry buddy but you are always attacting me. :)
We can actually be friends but i don't know why you doing this to me. :-\

WELL I'M JUST CROSSING, I'M DOING MY SCANDAL ;D
DON'T WORRY I'LL SHOW IT TO ALL SOON :) ;)

pogi ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 06:57:35 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 23, 2014, 09:24:34 PM
Hi Bob your last couple of posts have been really interesting.

Hey Tito where ya been, good to see ya back :) :) :) :D

Its really simple

Charge separation

Opposites attract

A transformer can become positively or negatively charged

AC current does both and therefor neutralizes any ou effects, just like a static neutralizer.

Separate the legs and you create and ionizer, even a low voltage system creates ionization, the aether separates very easily, opposites attract.

Opposites attract, if you build a system using this principle you can pull in extra energy.

Good day buddy :D
Yes, i took my vacation in Lost Angeles, well swimming singing and made some belly dancing. ;D

Charge separation Yes is really a good thing to do in making free energy cause its faster and discharging must be slower and just use very small chunk of movement and the effect of that is huge. ;) 8)

now i ask you buddy is that sharing of mine made your time waste? ???
kindly tell something please :-\

bye ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 07:03:03 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on April 23, 2014, 07:51:56 PM
Some very interesting things here about resonance in copper wire and coil tuning to 1/4 resonant wavelength. While it focuses on AC, it has some interesting content:
http://www.resonantfractals.org/Magnetism/GyroEffects.htm (http://www.resonantfractals.org/Magnetism/GyroEffects.htm)

Te portes bien, hermano! ;)
Nice to see you Teets.
B

Nice to see you too friend :) ;)
That's brilliant buddy, as you are learning things then study everything, its not a time wasting. ;)
it will just be added in your brain then there's come a time that you can use that knowledge perfectly. ;) 8)
and That's the importance of backtracking. ;)

God bless
otoits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 07:05:17 AM

@titialas ;D

just leave it virgin ok for my security. ;)

pogi ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 07:10:38 AM

find a continues and infinite increasing of energy circuit, there should be a controller and that's it. 8)

as what i say, i'm just crossing :-\
bye everyone ;)

i'll not reply again. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 07:30:26 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 07:27:15 AM
Buck up ! This thread needed more incoherent $hit from you and lo u r back. The $hit that you havemflown here in 5 years wasnt enuf.

Los angeles ... ha ha ha ha..... (ylang ylang river)

Fugitive criminal hahahaha...... (maybe a petty thief)

Identity protection ha ha ha ha..... (from whom ? Men In Black ?... oooh la la )

Try your best to restore your hurt ego.... it will never heal. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Keep on passing hot air, your desciples are inhaling your free energy farts with wide open nostrils.......

;D ;D ;D

YOUR NOTHING BUT A SECOND DRAKE COPY CAT ! :P :P :P :P :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 07:31:26 AM

UPGRADED BOOOGER BWA HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAH

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 07:34:35 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 07:32:28 AM
I can smell something burning... ;D ;D

Ya your ash with a hole ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 07:38:28 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 07:27:15 AM
Buck up ! This thread needed more incoherent $hit from you and lo u r back. The $hit that you havemflown here in 5 years wasnt enuf.

Los angeles ... ha ha ha ha..... (ylang ylang river)

Fugitive criminal hahahaha...... (maybe a petty thief)

Identity protection ha ha ha ha..... (from whom ? Men In Black ?... oooh la la )

Try your best to restore your hurt ego.... it will never heal. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Keep on passing hot air, your desciples are inhaling your free energy farts with wide open nostrils.......

;D ;D ;D

All what you've said is YOU!!!!!!!!! AND THAT'S FINAL!!!!! ;D LOL HHEHEHEHHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEEHHE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 07:39:48 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 07:36:34 AM
Tito ki gaand jal rahi hai, iski gaand me se dhua uth raha hai. ;)

Free energy ki maa chudane fir se wapas aa gyaa harami ka pilla, maderchod. ;D

YOU ONLY NOT ME :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 07:40:53 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 07:39:18 AM
Hello faker, in your family people dont have holes in their ashshes ? ;D You guys must be $hitting and farting from your p3nises and puzzies. ;D ;D

THAT'S YOU AGAIN NOT ME!!!!!! :P :P :P :P :P :P BEHHHH HEHEHEHEHEH BWA HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAAHHAHA ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 07:43:54 AM

GOOGLE EARTH IS HOT ENERGY = FREE ENERGY

JUST READ AND YOU HAVE FREE ENERGY ;D ;D ;D

HOT ENERGY ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 07:45:17 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 07:42:34 AM
Its well established that you are a compulsive liar and an attention seeking retard. ;D ;D

Please see a shrink please please please. ;D ;D

YEH THAT'S YOU AGAIN BECAUSE THAT'S YOU, NOW YOU HAVE FREE ENERGY THAT'S YOU, HOT ENERGY. :P :P :P :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 07:46:02 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 07:44:40 AM
Try harder sucker, I am laughing. ;D

tHATS YOU AGIN ;D

LAUGHING ALSO ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 07:48:54 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 07:46:23 AM
:o :o

nOW I WILL TELL YOU THE SECRET, THE LONG KEPT SECRET FOR FIVE YEARS, AND YOU FOUND IT. YOU ARE THE FREEE ENERGY

YEHEY ITS A MIRACLE YEHEEY ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 07:57:38 AM

nO MORE? ANYMORE???????????????

THATS YOU AGAIN!!!!!!! :P

ANY ENERGY THAT IS ABOUT TO EXPLODE BECAUSE IT IS YEILDED FROM THE MAXIMUM POINT OF HOT PRESSURE IS EQUAL TO GOOGLE EARTH FREE ENERGY.

THAT'S THE CONCLUSION FOR TODAY. LOL BWAHAHHAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

THATS YOU AGAIN I SALUTE YOU MR ENERGY YOU REALLY FOUND IT. ITS INCREDIBLE IMPOSSIBLE, YOU FOUND THE SECRET I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. TO MY SELF ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D BWAHAHAHAHAHHHAAHHA

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:00:00 AM

One thing is really tough to understand. If a person has secret that can threaten his life, why would he openly say in a public forum that he has a secret. ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:01:00 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 07:57:45 AM
;D ;D ;D No sir, free energy is eithers Tesla or Titos copyright. ;D ;D ;D

nOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! MORE TESLA OR TITO FOR TODAY, YOU ARE THE FREE ENERGY ITS FANTASTIC PLASTIC ENERGY WOWOWOWOWOWOOWOWO I CAN'T BELEIVE IT ITS YOU AGIN. BWAAAA HAHAHHAHHAHAHHA LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:04:21 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:00:00 AM
One thing is really tough to understand. If a person has secret that can threaten his life, why would he openly say in a public forum that he has a secret. ;D ;D

THATS YOU AGAIN!!!!!!!!, YOU FOUND IT, YOU ARE ONE OF MY SAMPLE FREE ENERGY. ;D ;D ;D ;D

YESSSSSSSSS YOU FOUND IT!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

YOURE THE ENERGY SECRET OF THIS THREAD!!!!!! LOL BWAAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH WEEEEEEEEY YEYHEYYY ;D ;D ;D ;D [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:04:36 AM

One thing is really tough to understand. If a person has secret that can threaten his life, why would he openly say in a public forum that he has a secret.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:05:41 AM

One thing is really tough to understand. If a person has secret that can threaten his life, why would he openly say in a public forum that he has a secret.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:06:46 AM

One thing is really tough to understand. If a person has secret that can threaten his life, why would he openly say in a public forum that he has a secret.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:08:44 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:06:46 AM
One thing is really tough to understand. If a person has secret that can threaten his life, why would he openly say in a public forum that he has a secret.

BWAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAAHHAHAHHA

tHATS YOU AGAIN LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:10:18 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:08:10 AM
One thing is really tough to understand. If a person has secret that can threaten his life, why would he openly say in a public forum that he has a secret.

Computer rental one hour fees is over, he is gone. ;D ;D

SEE ITS WORKING, ITS REPEATING ITSELF, ITS AMPLIFYING. ITS REALLY YOU YESYESYES !!!!!!!!

YEHEY!!!!!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:13:24 AM

YES YOU ARE THE LIVING EVIDENCE OF MY LONG TIME SECRET ITS REALLY WONDERFUL!!!

WONDERFUL!!!

WONDERFUL!!!!

WONDERFULL!!!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

SEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D LOL BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:14:41 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:12:51 AM
Sorry Tito or whatever Philipino monkey breed, I made you pay rental for 1 more hour to fight me. ;D ;D ;D

THAT'S YOU AGAIN!!!!
IT WORKING ITS WORKING!!!!!!!!
SEE THE EFFECT? ITS WORKING ITS WORKING!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:16:29 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:10:37 AM
He will waste 1 more hour fee of computer rental to chase me away. ;D ;D

Oh poor Philipino jerk from Kavite City. ;D ;D

tHATS YOU AGIN!!! REALLY WORKING. FREE RENTAL ENERGY THATS YOU AGIN!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:20:37 AM

NO! YOOOOUR THE MONKEY CAUSE YOUR THE FREE ENERGY!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

tHATS YOU AGIN!!!!! ;D

YOU ARE THE PROOF OF MY RESEARCH OF MY THREAD, YOU'VE AMPLYFIED YOUR ENERGY.

AND ITS WORKING ON YOU. YOURE THE LONG SECRET THAT THEY ARE WAITING FOR. ITS YOU AGIN THE MONKEY OF TOMORROWS FREE ENERGY. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:30:49 AM

ANYMORE EFFECTS OF MY FREE AMPLIFIED ENERGY? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

THATS YOU!!!!!!!! :o

THE MATH:
GOOGLE= FREE AMPLIFIED ENERGY ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

FOR MORE INFORMATION YOU CAN READ THE RECENTS HE REPLIES. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:32:42 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:29:26 AM
http://foro.univision.com/t5/Postres-y-Delicias/ORACION-AL-SANTITO-DE-LOS-COCINEROS-SAN-PASCUAL-BAILON-INTER-4/td-p/480125938 (http://foro.univision.com/t5/Postres-y-Delicias/ORACION-AL-SANTITO-DE-LOS-COCINEROS-SAN-PASCUAL-BAILON-INTER-4/td-p/480125938)

MORE?

NOTHING MORE!!!!!! THAT'S YOU AGAIN!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:38:13 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:33:48 AM
Research ? Can you even spell it properly ? ;D

OW YOUR REALLY WONDERFUL, EVEN THE SPELLING IS VERY STRICT. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

WHAT A WONDERFUL CREATED SAMPLE FREE ENERGY ;D ;D ;D

REALLY WORKING ON YOU!!!! I REALLY CAN'T BELEIVE IT!!! ITS REALLY WORKING. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:40:45 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:36:11 AM
Carry on jerk... I will make it really tough and tiring for you. :D

OW ITS VERY BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, MY AMPLIFIED FREE ENERGY IS NOW TIRING.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

:( :( :(

I'M FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M VERY SORRY!!!!!!

ITS TIRING. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

ITS A FAILURE AGAIN THATS YOU. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:43:34 AM

SORRY EVERYONE

MY LONG SECRET IS A FAILURE ;D

LETS SEE TOMORROW

IF IT WILL WORK AGAIN

BYE TODAY. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on April 24, 2014, 08:43:43 AM

Folks,

Just as in a kindergarten...

Please grow up! (and delete all your BS)

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:49:45 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on April 24, 2014, 08:43:43 AM
Folks,

Just as in a kindergarten...

Please grow up! (and delete all your BS)

Thanks, Gyula

Sorry buddy, sometimes we have to play with the neophytes kindergarten.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on April 24, 2014, 08:55:14 AM

May I ask you both to delete the content of your posts done in the last 2 hours? More than 3 pages of BS accumulated!!!

Please go and delete the BS, both of you.

Thanks, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:55:21 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:49:26 AM
2nd hour of computer rental fee is over now. ;D ;D

Yes!, that's you again fans.

not yet, i still have coins here to play with you my NEOPHYTES KINDERGARTEN PUPILS.

SHOW MORE OF MY AMPLIFIED FREE ENERGY. AND THAT'S YOU!!!!

DO NOT TIRE PLEASE CAUSE I FELT FAILED WHEN YOU TIRE. ;D

BECAUSE YOU REVEAL MY AMPLIFIED FREE ENERGY, SHOW MORE, THE MORE YOU POST ABOUT ME, YOU ARE REALLY WORKING!.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:57:39 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:54:26 AM
I know its a matter of life and death for you that people here must believe that you have a secret. ;D ;D

And I also know that you will fight tooth and nail to protect your fake self esteem on the forum that took 5 years to create a castle of cards. ;D ;D

;D ;D

I know you cant leave this thread as it makes you restless and you need to snort more grass to keep your feeling of worthlessness in check.

;D ;D

NOW YOU ARE REALLY WORKING MY FREE AMPLIFIED FREE ENERGY....
GO! GO! GO! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 08:58:44 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:56:51 AM
You are in your own psychological trap. ;D ;D

Your psychology traps you innthis thread. ;D ;D

Free energy secret.... oooohhhhhhhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ;D ;D

WORKING ! WORKING! WORKING....... GO!GO!GO! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 09:06:49 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 09:01:03 AM
HAD FUN TITO. WILL WAIT FOR MORE. YOU R IN FOR SHUTTLING BETWEEN HOME AND COMPUTER RENTAL WITH COINS OFCOURCE.
Take care bye.

Ps. Thx for posting BS in your own thread. ;D ;D

Wow my AFE knows how to thanks, that's incredible and unbelievable, again its working!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I still have socks of gold coins for you my AFE! >:( >:( >:( [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on April 24, 2014, 09:37:03 AM

I think both of you might want to take one step back and take a good hard look in the mirror. All the problems we have in the world, all the people starving and suffering and you two have nothing better to do than act like a couple of spoiled 2 year old's. If there is something wrong with people in this world this is it and it is absurd that either one of you should ever call yourselves responsible adults.
What in the hell are you trying to prove here? If this was my forum I would ban both of you even though I don't believe in that kind of thing because this is the most god damn embarrasing thing I have ever seen concerning the human race. Please go have your retards pissing contest somewhere else because I believe there are people here who may actually care about helping other people versus this BS.
AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 24, 2014, 10:33:33 AM

please admin lock this thread , getting notification for stupid comments is waste of time and embarrasing

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 24, 2014, 11:10:04 AM

Forest no! Don't you see this big love between the two of them? If they were from the same place I bet they would be best friends discharging capacitors together!!!! Google and Tito you have to admit it and shake your hands :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 12:22:11 PM

Ok. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 12:39:46 PM

Totoalas and Tito and all third world Philipino Jerks free energy secret is here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQAp328yefA

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on April 24, 2014, 05:36:31 PM

Actually, I was invited to talk on this thread. If Tito and Google want to quarell it, they can go ahead and quarell, I don't have anything to do with this thread.
Well, Hatiberlin or any other thread locker should pls lock this thread for the sake of peace.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 24, 2014, 06:35:34 PM

Getting back to the task at hand, I'll repeat my earlier assessment of Tito's apparatus.
I believe it consists of an antenna and capacitors, a joule thief type of pulsating setup, and a number of series wound bifilar coils connected in series, followed by a resonant coil and a collector coil (as in TMT).

I remember in the beginning that Tito told Otto he no longer had to try to work along the lines of Otto's TPU (not in the way Otto was developing it). Instead, Tito had found something simpler. Going back thru the many, many clues Tito left, I keep coming back to this simple arrangement.

The truth will prevail.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on April 24, 2014, 06:55:44 PM

Does anyone have an accurate assessment as to just how many people are dying each that day somebody selfishly or maliciously withholds information to stop the needless death and suffering ?

And that information of course, relates to free energy.

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 07:19:24 PM

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on April 24, 2014, 06:55:44 PM
Does anyone have an accurate assessment as to just how many people are dying each that day somebody selfishly or maliciously withholds information to stop the needless death and suffering ?

And that information of course, relates to free energy.

Regards...

+1

+1

+1

+1

+1

+1

+1

+1

+1

+1

...... upto infinity.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on April 24, 2014, 07:49:28 PM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 12:39:46 PM
Totoalas and Tito and all third world Philipino Jerks free energy secret is here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQAp328yefA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQAp328yefA)

Hey im also Filipino and not all Filipino are jerk.. >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 07:51:42 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on April 24, 2014, 07:49:28 PM
Hey im also Filipino and dont call us jerk.. >:(

All philipinos are not jerks, there are some good ones also like you. >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 07:55:56 PM

Bwa hahahahahha

http://8list.ph/site/articles/top-8-habits-of-the-filipino-jerk-272

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:04:27 PM

PHILIPINO HALTAK ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:17:25 PM

Pinoy Aping Api ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:55:46 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 24, 2014, 06:46:21 AM
hhi! everyone nice to see you again everyone :D

i'm more sexier and more beautiful than what you've got you know :
The case is simple! >:(
8

WELL I'M JUST CROSSING, I'M DOING MY SCANDAL ;D
DON'T WORRY I'LL SHOW IT TO ALL SOON :) ;)

pogi ;)

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha sexier and beautiful .... Deranged pogi. ;D ;D

You will soon show your scandal to the world ...... people are tired of your lies you jerk. ;D ;D ;D

One thing is sure, no one has learned anything worthwhile from you... but you definitely improved your english language. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on April 24, 2014, 09:00:07 PM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:17:25 PM
Pinoy Aping Api ;D ;D

Kids these days... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 24, 2014, 09:00:37 PM

Gwiggle are you a Mongoloid albino
I never saw you experiment and became a beggar of free energy

WE EXPERIMENT BUILD AND SHARE OUR RESULTS GOOD OR BAD
WE VALUE OUR TIME WE USUALLY SPEND FOR REST AFTER WORK

Please grow up go back to school where u belong study more

???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on April 24, 2014, 09:02:07 PM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 08:55:46 PM
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha sexier and beautiful .... your pic is attached, deranged pogi. See in the mirror chinky eyed and pale skinned monster. ;D ;D

You will soon show your scandal to the world ...... people are tired of your lies you deranged Filipino jerk. ;D ;D ;D

One thing is sure, no one has learned anything worthwhile from you... but you definitely improved your english language. ;D ;D ;D

Haha i was shocked by the picture.. :) ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 09:08:44 PM

Quote from: totoalas on April 24, 2014, 09:00:37 PM
Gwiggle are you a Mongoloid albino
I never saw you experiment and became a beggar of free energy

WE EXPERIMENT BUILD AND SHARE OUR RESULTS GOOD OR BAD
WE VALUE OUR TIME WE USUALLY SPEND FOR REST AFTER WORK

Please grow up go back to school where u belong study more

???

Your videos on youtube proved already that you steal electricity from the grid and call it free energy you filipino jerk.

You 3rd world jerks steal electricity and call it free energy.

Experiment ....... bwa ha ha ha ha .... jerk you just manipulate grid electricity. If there is power outage, none of your youtube video experiments will work.

Which third rate slum school you attended you jerk.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 09:10:38 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on April 24, 2014, 09:02:07 PM
Haha i was shocked by the picture.. :) ;D

This one. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 24, 2014, 09:11:23 PM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 09:08:44 PM
Your videos on youtube proved already that you steal electricity from the grid and call it free energy you filipino jerk.

You 3rd world jerks steal electricity and call it free energy.

Experiment ....... bwa ha ha ha ha .... jerk you just manipulate grid electricity. If there is power outage, none of your youtube video experiments will work.

Which third rate slum school you attended you jerk.

Racism. Ban.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 24, 2014, 09:13:19 PM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 12:39:46 PM
Totoalas and Tito and all third world Philipino Jerks free energy secret is here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQAp328yefA

Racism. Ban.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 09:14:32 PM

Quote from: totoalas on April 24, 2014, 09:00:37 PM
Gwiggle are you a Mongoloid albino
I never saw you experiment and became a beggar of free energy

WE EXPERIMENT BUILD AND SHARE OUR RESULTS GOOD OR BAD
WE VALUE OUR TIME WE USUALLY SPEND FOR REST AFTER WORK

Please grow up go back to school where u belong study more

???

Where do you work ? Must be a lab assistant in some 3rd rate filipino school. Why dont you borrow Elementary Physics textbooks from some rich expat kid and read it, of cource it would be in English, so you will have a hard time understanding things.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 09:16:25 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on April 24, 2014, 09:13:19 PM
Racism. Ban.

Bwa ha ha ha....

Boobs Myth. ;D ;D ;D Fraud.

Ban Boobs Myth, he is the JIMS Engine fraudster.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 09:20:03 PM

BTW, how is your fraud JIMS Engine doing. How many people you have defrauded so far Mr. BOOBS MYTH. ;D ;D

You are a clone of Richard Willies. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 09:36:09 PM

To ,

All forum members and moderator. Bob Smith's real name is Robert H. Smith. He runs an internet fraud company www.bbmotorcorp.com

http://peswiki.com/index.php/News:Archive:2012:January

He is the biggest fraudster of the century, please ban him ASAP.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 09:48:22 PM

Bbobs Myth is caught in his own booby trap now. ;D ;D Sorry Boob. ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 09:49:27 PM

;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 24, 2014, 10:08:16 PM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 09:14:32 PM
Where do you work ? Must be a lab assistant in some 3rd rate filipino school. Why dont you borrow Elementary Physics textbooks from some rich expat kid and read it, of cource it would be in English, so you will have a hard time understanding things.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 10:19:27 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on April 24, 2014, 10:08:16 PM

www.bbmotorcorp.com fraud Bob Smith. ;D

Working hand in glove with Tito ( not his real name )

Beware of this duo guys. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on April 24, 2014, 11:02:27 PM

Hartiberlin and some guys over there, I'm sure you have a court where u charge people, to handle some of your difficult cases. Google and Tito could go in there to handle their case. Hahahaha

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 11:26:11 PM

Leely, comeon man, do not insult me by comparing with Tito. ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 24, 2014, 11:38:19 PM

To all,

Tito or whoever he is, has been begging for money from forum members on three occasions :

1. His mothers dialysis and death.
2. His Athma attacks.
3. His wife's pregnancy & delivery.

Just now yesterday he claimed he went to Los Angeles for a holiday.

Beggers of Filipinnes going to Los Angeles for a holiday !!!!!!

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!

;D ;D ;D ;D

Best of luck to all his followers.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Tito have u ever seen a $100 bill except in your dreams ?

Bwa hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on April 25, 2014, 12:01:48 AM

http://www.teslasociety.com/tesla_and_swami.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on April 25, 2014, 01:07:11 AM

I was so happy may crush was smilled to me and so it means she likes me too. ;D ;D ;D ;D

I feel boosted now to do experiment.. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 25, 2014, 06:06:09 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on April 25, 2014, 01:07:11 AM
I was so happy may crush was smilled to me and so it means she likes me too. ;D ;D ;D ;D

I feel boosted now to do experiment.. ;D

Keep doing good work man. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 25, 2014, 06:46:51 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 11:38:19 PM
To all,

Tito or whoever he is, has been begging for money from forum members on three occasions :

1. His mothers dialysis and death.
2. His Athma attacks.
3. His wife's pregnancy & delivery.

Just now yesterday he claimed he went to Los Angeles for a holiday.

Beggers of Filipinnes going to Los Angeles for a holiday !!!!!!

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!

;D ;D ;D ;D

Best of luck to all his followers.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Tito have u ever seen a $100 bill except in your dreams ?

Bwa hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

;D ;D ;D

You didn't got the joke. lost angeles ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
your really working Yes, that's you. ;D

JERK? YES THAT'S YOU ;D

YA I'VE SEEN A 100$ BILL AND YOU ARE THERE SO ITS FAKE! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 25, 2014, 06:51:07 AM

Quote from: Google on April 25, 2014, 06:06:09 AM
Keep doing good work man. :)

WOW GOOGLE IS REALLY KIND WOW
HE'S SO GOOD WOW

:P :P :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 25, 2014, 06:53:06 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 11:26:11 PM
Leely, comeon man, do not insult me by comparing with Tito. ;D ;D

COMPARING ME WITH THE UPGRADED RETARDED :o ;D

Thats you again. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 25, 2014, 06:56:39 AM

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

IF YOU WANT TO GET RID OF BOOGERS

JUST ANSWER HIM WITH THESE => :P

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 25, 2014, 06:58:58 AM

Quote from: Google on April 24, 2014, 10:19:27 PM
www.bbmotorcorp.com (http://www.bbmotorcorp.com) fraud Bob Smith. ;D

Working hand in glove with Tito ( not his real name )

Beware of this duo guys. ;D

GOOGLE BOOGER NOT HIS REAL NAME

BEWARE OF THIS MONO :P

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 25, 2014, 07:00:26 AM

GOOGLE BOOGER IS WORKING AGAIN ;D

ITS HOT AMPLIFYING AGAIN WOW :P :P :P :P

YOU KNOW,WHAT EVER YOU SAY, YOU CANNOT GET THE SECRET CAUSE YOU ARE THE SECRET ALREADY SEE ITS WORKING! ;D ;D

THAT'S YOU MAN THE REAL MONKEY AMPLIFIED ENERGY BEH :P :P :P :P

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 25, 2014, 08:41:19 AM

Sorry guys for bothering, i just have a question for a design that i 'd like to build.

I want to use 7 secondary tesla coils in a circular topology like in the attached image. My question is if anybody have seen a similar patent to see what is the best arrangement for primary. What is your personal opinion on this? Which primary topology will work the best?
In A. the primary includes the secondary.
In B. the primary makes a turn around each secondary, and
In C. The primary is in the center of the secondaries.

What do you think about that? Which distance you think is the best between the secondaries so not affect one an other? All secondaries are in a CW arrangement, so all secondaries top is either North or South. But is the same to all of them.

Thanks Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 25, 2014, 12:33:03 PM

Jeg,
When you say you want to make 7 Tesla coil secondaries, are the secondaries series-wound-bifilar coils? I'm not sure what you mean.
Personally, I'd go with door "C". But again, that would depend on how you want to use the primary. Are you looking for inductance from the primary into the secondaries, or are you looking for the primary to discharge into the first secondary, and from there into each of the other secondaries?

If this is the case, then I think you might have something close to what I'm envisioning as Tito's setup: an antenna primary charging a capacitor, which discharges into swbf secondaries, in series...
fwiw
Bob

just found this:
http://pesn.com/2011/04/29/9501818_Tesla_Coils_for_Dummies/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 25, 2014, 01:37:47 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on April 25, 2014, 12:33:03 PM
Jeg,
When you say you want to make 7 Tesla coil secondaries, are the secondaries series-wound-bifilar coils? I'm not sure what you mean.
Personally, I'd go with door "C". But again, that would depend on how you want to use the primary. Are you looking for inductance from the primary into the secondaries, or are you looking for the primary to discharge into the first secondary, and from there into each of the other secondaries?

If this is the case, then I think you might have something close to what I'm envisioning as Tito's setup: an antenna primary charging a capacitor, which discharges into swbf secondaries, in series...
fwiw
Bob

just found this:
http://pesn.com/2011/04/29/9501818_Tesla_Coils_for_Dummies/

Seven solenoid coils in a vertical position, with common ground, and one primary for all. Parallel resonance for every secondary with capacitor. What is your opinion about the distance between each other? C is my favorite also!

I want to see how many secondaries can be loaded through a common primary.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 25, 2014, 02:28:15 PM

Quote from: Jeg on April 25, 2014, 01:37:47 PM
Seven solenoid coils in a vertical position, with common ground, and one primary for all. Parallel resonance for every secondary with capacitor. What is your opinion about the distance between each other? C is my favorite also!

I want to see how many secondaries can be loaded through a common primary.

Sorry, I don't really have an opinion on distance between solenoids. Do you see any similarities with the Hubbard coil?

B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 25, 2014, 04:17:00 PM

Thanks Bob
I think I will connect primary with just one secondary and the other six outside in a cycle.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 25, 2014, 06:36:20 PM

Quote from: Jeg on April 25, 2014, 08:41:19 AM
Sorry guys for bothering, i just have a question for a design that i 'd like to build.

I want to use 7 secondary tesla coils in a circular topology like in the attached image. My question is if anybody have seen a similar patent to see what is the best arrangement for primary. What is your personal opinion on this? Which primary topology will work the best?
In A. the primary includes the secondary.
In B. the primary makes a turn around each secondary, and
In C. The primary is in the center of the secondaries.

What do you think about that? Which distance you think is the best between the secondaries so not affect one an other? All secondaries are in a CW arrangement, so all secondaries top is either North or South. But is the same to all of them.

Thanks Jeg

There is a Tesla patent on this I will PM you if you want.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 25, 2014, 06:42:55 PM

Can anyone tell me how to put someone on ignore. Where is the ignore button on this website ? Thanks.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on April 25, 2014, 08:01:59 PM

Quote from: Google on April 25, 2014, 06:06:09 AM
Keep doing good work man. :)

Today i met her again but i didnt speak to her. How can i overcome this stupid shyness.. :-[ :-[ :-[
Or maybe i was afraid to reject. :-[

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 25, 2014, 08:04:12 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on April 25, 2014, 08:01:59 PM
Today i met her again but i didnt speak to her. How can i overcome this stupid shyness.. :-[ :-[ :-[

Hire a Merc take her out for dinner. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on April 25, 2014, 08:11:35 PM

Quote from: Google on April 25, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Hire a Merc take her out for dinner. ;D

lol.. Thats way too hard for me. Ill try get his number and text her. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 25, 2014, 08:13:42 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on April 25, 2014, 08:11:35 PM
lol.. Thats way too hard for me. Ill try get his number and text her. :)

Dont hide behind your cell phone. Mms your pic with proposal.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on April 25, 2014, 08:30:27 PM

Quote from: Google on April 25, 2014, 08:13:42 PM
Dont hide behind your cell phone. Mms your pic with proposal.

Lol haha.. Thats way too fast... ;D
By the way heres her picture.

She was on the left. On the right was her sister.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 25, 2014, 09:05:25 PM

Jeg
Like Bob said check out the Hubbard coils, run the primary in parallel and the secondary's in series ;)

With this core ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 25, 2014, 10:21:08 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on April 25, 2014, 08:30:27 PM
Lol haha.. Thats way too fast... ;D
By the way heres her picture.

She was on the left. On the right was her sister.

Not bad. Try try try. Your experiment will succeed. ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 25, 2014, 11:53:23 PM

@Jeg,
A few friendly questions, I hope you don't mind:
What is powering your primary in order to get the secondaries into resonance?
Are you going to feed the primary with AC? or
Is the primary acting as an antenna and dumping into a cap to produce pulsed DC? or
Are you in some other way pulsing DC into the primary?

Will you have a diode between the primary and the first LC?
Will you need a diode between each resonating tesla coil? I don't know the answer for this, but I remember something from a drawing in a Tesla patent early in this thread that seemed to indicate something to this effect. I don't have time right now to go back and find it. If I do, I'll post the link.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 26, 2014, 05:26:53 AM

Hey guys
Thanks for the help :)

Google yes please, no problem with pm or in public also.
Dave thanks for the answer in Accula's thread. I 'll answer you here if you don't mind.

It's been a long time now that i use for primary in many applications the Radu Motisan self oscillator. I like it because consumption is very small just 10-15W for 200V peak to peak output at 50MHz. I used it for don smith experiments, and now i am looking forward to expand Don's technique with more secondaries than just two. Classical Tesla coil arrangement, just a primary oscillating AC VHF, and secondary in parallel resonance with capacitor.
It is just that i wanted to use the same technique for creating VHF at mazzilli's driver as it seems more compact and stiff. I believe that if you bring it in real resonance i.e oscillating at wire's own VH frequency, then the consumption will fall almost to nothing. With Radu's as i told you i need about 10-15w for this to happen. 48V dc, 200mA battery current consumption. An other reason that i want to test mazzilli is that both coils have the same feeding topology (drain feeding), while radu's one coil is feeding the gate and any mistake here leads to gate explosion. In mazzilli's topology, the mosfet's avalanche protect it from mistakes..

Bob, no diodes between primary and secondary, only at secondary side as in Don's circuits. Each secondary works alone with only common the ground. So what i am looking for, is a way for a freely secondary resonance without one affecting the other..

ps. by trying to stabilize Radu's oscillator, the last few months i have burn more than 30 mosfets. To give you a small hint from my experience, when you hear a big bang, then gate is overdrived to more than 20V. When you just hear a whirling air sound and mosfet starts on fire, then it was current drain-source overdriving. The latter usually gives source pin melting.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Google on April 26, 2014, 02:14:01 PM

Quote from: Jeg on April 26, 2014, 05:26:53 AM
Hey guys
Thanks for the help :)

Google yes please, no problem with pm or in public also.
Dave thanks for the answer in Accula's thread. I 'll answer you here if you don't mind.

It's been a long time now that i use for primary in many applications the Radu Motisan self oscillator. I like it because consumption is very small just 10-15W for 200V peak to peak output at 50MHz. I used it for don smith experiments, and now i am looking forward to expand Don's technique with more secondaries than just two. Classical Tesla coil arrangement, just a primary oscillating AC VHF, and secondary in parallel resonance with capacitor.
It is just that i wanted to use the same technique for creating VHF at mazzilli's driver as it seems more compact and stiff. I believe that if you bring it in real resonance i.e oscillating at wire's own VH frequency, then the consumption will fall almost to nothing. With Radu's as i told you i need about 10-15w for this to happen. 48V dc, 200mA battery current consumption. An other reason that i want to test mazzilli is that both coils have the same feeding topology (drain feeding), while radu's one coil is feeding the gate and any mistake here leads to gate explosion. In mazzilli's topology, the mosfet's avalanche protect it from mistakes..

Bob, no diodes between primary and secondary, only at secondary side as in Don's circuits. Each secondary works alone with only common the ground. So what i am looking for, is a way for a freely secondary resonance without one affecting the other..

ps. by trying to stabilize Radu's oscillator, the last few months i have burn more than 30 mosfets. To give you a small hint from my experience, when you hear a big bang, then gate is overdrived to more than 20V. When you just hear a whirling air sound and mosfet starts on fire, then it was current drain-source overdriving. The latter usually gives source pin melting.

Frm now on I will post no more unwanted info. No one appreciates real good intentions. I will rather PM to the person who needs.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 26, 2014, 08:01:50 PM

;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on April 26, 2014, 11:11:56 PM

Any idea how to detect excess energy in induction coil? ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 27, 2014, 03:28:53 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 26, 2014, 08:01:50 PM
;)

Very helpful Dave, thanks! I already ordered the parts. I hope this week to implement this.
What kind of ferrite toroid you use so to handle those frequencies? I think i'll go with air core chock.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on April 27, 2014, 06:17:21 AM

Some thoughts for converting existing technology to low pressure systems. Simple and easy.. Every component 'feels' only potential difference. Doesn't matter if it is from 0-24v or from -1024v to -1000v

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 27, 2014, 07:53:17 PM

Energy Amplification
One starting point (from radio waves) --
http://www.walkingitaly.com/radio/RADIOSITO/MISURATORE_DI_CAMPO/tate.htm
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 27, 2014, 08:28:46 PM

http://www.wholife2u.com/products/c-results (http://www.wholife2u.com/products/c-results)
Has anybody tried this and what results obtained

thanks
totoalas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: John.K1 on April 28, 2014, 02:26:53 AM

Just somethink to think about.

On my workbench you can see partial setup of Ufopolitic's cold electricity cuircuit. As you can see from the 24V battery I lit 220V -120W halogen bulb at its 35-40% brightness while drawing between 0.5-1 A .

On the scope you can see small green signal from SG (10V) and responds from the coil reaching 500V. Across that load my Vrms shows 36-40V.

Now the idea to think about. On the time base you can see the difference between rise -drop time between triggering signal and the coil response peeks. The theory says with the sharper characteristic of the signal you get more energy. So the question now is why not to use that sharp pulses (2-4microsec) from the coil and feed it to other coil to generate even more energy? Hmm?

Jan

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DilJalaay on April 28, 2014, 11:05:32 AM

Quote from: John.K1 on April 28, 2014, 02:26:53 AM
Just somethink to think about.

On my workbench you can see partial setup of Ufopolitic's cold electricity cuircuit. As you can see from the 24V battery I lit 220V -120W halogen bulb at its 35-40% brightness while drawing between 0.5-1 A .

On the scope you can see small green signal from SG (10V) and responds from the coil reaching 500V. Across that load my Vrms shows 36-40V.

Now the idea to think about. On the time base you can see the difference between rise -drop time between triggering signal and the coil response peeks. The theory says with the sharper characteristic of the signal you get more energy. So the question now is why not to use that sharp pulses (2-4microsec) from the coil and feed it to other coil to generate even more energy? Hmm?

Jan

Nice work Jan, its looking very nice Sharpe pulses. Can you give us your SG and these pulses frequency. Which FET you are using?

Here i am attaching what you are looking for(Special for you).
i.e: using these pulses, and yes more sharpe and more short pulses, we can get more power.

Regs,
D.J

P.S: I will appreciate if some one experience and practical guy tell us the the values of diodes, capacitors and coils... or some pictures of real PCM.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on April 28, 2014, 12:08:33 PM

Atleast this pcm makes some sense. It can collect power from the ambient, not so?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 28, 2014, 12:39:32 PM

Quote from: Leely on April 28, 2014, 12:08:33 PM
Atleast this pcm makes some sense. It can collect power from the ambient, not so?

If everyone in the world has schematic there will be nothing to steal, then your building experience will be in demand.
Others will pay you to build units and repair units

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: John.K1 on April 28, 2014, 01:02:26 PM

Hi D.J.

Thank you for your suggestion. Will try that.
My SG is : http://www.ebay.ie/itm/321157000855?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
The coil is actually around 20 turns bifillar (connected end of 1 wire with the start of the2nd wire) , no centre tap used on CRT TV yoke,
I am at work right now but if I good remember the Fet is one of the IRF (500V, 20A ..), Not sure about frequency right now. It also depends if you use cap or not. I was in the range let say 0.5 - 20KHz

I do not think the info above is very major importance as you can get the same or similar result with thousand of different configurations ;)
And Lord said , Let there'll be a kick. And there was a kick. And it was good. ;)

Regards,
Jan

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 29, 2014, 06:33:15 AM

Quote from: Google on April 26, 2014, 02:14:01 PM
Frm now on I will post no more unwanted info. No one appreciates real good intentions. I will rather PM to the person who needs.

Well, that's your opinion on your intentions ::) :P ;D
BUT WHAT I SEE IN YOUR INTENTIONS IS MORE DEEPLY AND HIDDEN TO MANY, AND I NEW IT ;D REALLY LIKE A FREE ENERJERK ;D
That is not the way i programmed you. >:(
That is not your character :o

YOU ARE THE BEST FREE ENERJERK IN THE WORLD. ;D
:P :P :P

YOU STARTED THIS FOR HOW MANY PAGES OF INSULT YOU'VE DONE TO ME >:( >:( >:( . THEN SUDDENLY YOU BECOME KIND. WOWS :o
YOU MADE ME BAD IN THE SIGHT OF MANY!!!!!! >:( YOU ENERJERK!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
AND MADE YOUR SELF AN ANGEL IN THE LIGHT. ;D
HYPOCRITE!!!!! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 29, 2014, 06:34:41 AM

Quote from: Google on April 25, 2014, 06:42:55 PM
Can anyone tell me how to put someone on ignore. Where is the ignore button on this website ? Thanks.
[/quote

YOU IGNORE YOURSELF!!!!!! >:(

YOU FREE ENERJERK!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
A DIRTY DIRT IN MY THREAD!!! >:(

This thread is again very far from the truth because of you :)

THAT'S YOU! ;D ;D ;D
:P

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 29, 2014, 07:05:54 AM

OK EVERYONE, IF YOU WILL REQUEST ME TO MAKE YOU NEAR FROM THE TRUTH AGAIN JUST ASK ME. :) ;)

Well, this favor is just exclusive for my friends only. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: John.K1 on April 29, 2014, 07:19:49 AM

Ok guys. Can you leave your love story for your private :) Back to work now! . WW3 is just behind the corner and we all need powering device for our homes :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 29, 2014, 03:54:18 PM

Hello, Tito.
Any advice you give is more than welcome.
If you want to pm me or others with advice, that would be great also.
Happy Easter.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on April 29, 2014, 09:22:20 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 29, 2014, 07:05:54 AM
OK EVERYONE, IF YOU WILL REQUEST ME TO MAKE YOU NEAR FROM THE TRUTH AGAIN JUST ASK ME. :) ;)

Well, this favor is just exclusive for my friends only. ;D
[/quote
Prof Tits
I need a refresher course off course]
how far are we in this thread 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 30, 2014, 06:28:52 AM

good day :)

ok everyone

This is for everyone even for bad ones :D

This is were you should start digging ok and this is the truth. :)
PRODUCE DC FROM THE VIBRATION AND COILS USING SIMPLE VIBRATOR. :) 8)
QWERT KNOWS THE PDF ;)

IF YOU WILL JUST STUDY ALL BEST EFFICIENCY, THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT YOU CAN GET IT. ;) :) 8)

To google: i forgive you buddy. ;)
i'm sorry if i said something wrong to anyone that is not the real me ok. this is me ;D

I'm efren shortcut of a friend, got it? ;D

GOD BLESS ;)

THIS IS FOR EVERYONE, FOR ALL
TAKE CARE EVERYONE
HOPE YOU CAN GET IT :)

MUTUAL CONNECTION IS SLOWER AND CONNECTED IS STILL THE BEST POLICY. :D ;D 8)

I'M NOW LAZY TO POSTING OK :( :'(
BYE ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 30, 2014, 07:21:44 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on April 30, 2014, 08:58:45 AM

The coils push and pull on the circuit,
how can we get them to push on the circuit and pull from the ambient?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: John.K1 on April 30, 2014, 09:15:17 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on April 30, 2014, 08:58:45 AM
The coils push and pull on the circuit,
how can we get them to push on the circuit and pull from the ambient?

The answer could be in asymmetry, imbalance? ( asymmetrical capacitors, shunted coils.....?)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 30, 2014, 03:54:22 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 02:30:06 AM

Electricity Simply, in terms of sign it has positive sign and negative sign right? :)
Electricity simply, is compose of electron and protons right?
in terms of behavior, according to franklin the electron is the one that runs. ??? ;D
And here is the important thing that everyone should realize and know:
in terms of effect: the electricity has the capability of pushing and an effect of sucking.
AT THE SAME REAL TIME ACTION ;)

One time in my room with two door i experience and saw a double action when i open the door i am holding and i saw an effect in the other door that is nearly close. there i see an action to the other door when i open and close the one door. hope you understand it. you just try it in your two door room and see what i mean a say about. ;D
note: windows must be close and there should be no other airway other than the doors ok?. ;)

VERY SIMPLE THINGS AND AN OPEN THINGS ABOUT ELECTRICITY THAT MANY IS NOT REALIZING THE IMPORTANT USE OF IT.
REALLY JUST A COMMON SENSE TO DO SOME ARRANGEMENT TO ACCOMPLISH OUR DREAM. :) ;)

HOPE THAT HELPS AND ITS REALLY ALREADY KNOWN INFO BY EVERYONE. NOT JUST REALIZING IT. :)
There are lot of things that i want to say about it but i'm having difficulty in expressing it everyone, sorry. :) :( :'(

Free energy really can be achieve by a mixture of balance and unbalance wire. ??? :-\ :o ;D 8)

@Dave:
I understand the push-pull in Tito's circuit in both of 2 ways:
- in terms of a capacitor conditioned by radiant energy, discharging (push) and charging (pulling in from the ambient) or
- in terms of a series wound bifilar coil discharging its capacitance and charging again.
Is the antenna in Tito's setup the "door"?
Bob

Edit: Dave, you had some great posts about ionization and charge separation. I can't help this has something to do with this as well. Teets has alluded to Moray's device a number of times - a device without a physical ground. It occurred to me that his ground would be possible with charge separation as you have explained it many times.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 30, 2014, 04:45:04 PM

Quote from: forest on February 19, 2014, 04:42:01 AM
I'm trying to understand the secret of electricity dual nature as told us Tito. Why books are teaching that current flow from positive to negative , that is insane but has some merit ,right ? Hmm...Consider a charged capacitor discharging into resistive load. We have one side of capacitor filled with electrons and the other with no electrons, then we turn on the switch and bulb lights for a moment and we end up with capacitor in balance having equal amount of electrons and zero volt difference between plates.
Now I clearly see one action : each electrons is pushing the other wanting to escape the side of capacitor full of electrons, and when they finally can do that due to closed loop they go in more or less speed, creating more or less current, diminishing because as the other side become fed with electrons there opposes more and more the movement...So we see (dimishing in time) PUSH action of electrical potential difference (voltage).
To be continued...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 30, 2014, 04:46:29 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2014, 06:50:25 PM

Yes there is still loss BUT just minimal especially if you know how to filter it. and amplification for me has the similarity about ACCUMULATION. 8)

actually if you have three door, if you open one door, the two door will react especially if its really an airtight. 8) :o ;D
it really maintaining the balance and the displacement inside the room. :o :o :o 8) ::)

ok. lets review it again what i have said a long time ago.
for example we have 12v bat and three capacitor, you charge them in parallel then discharge them in series is a very big difference isn't it. :) ;) 8)

The loss Is not actually loss, one input is equal to one output isn't it, therefore if the output is returned to source then no loss BUT THERE IS WORK THAT CAN BE DONE BEFORE YOU MAKE IT TO RETURN TO SOURCE!!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) GOT IT FRIEND? and that is FREE LUNCH :)

So the desicion is in your hand, if you want the momentum will loss then off course it will loss. :( simple isn't it. :D
Take care and God bless. :)

QuoteThe rule is make an input then make a work then return to the source.

QuoteGood day sir teets!Yun oh! Care for a schematic? How to? Charge / discharge in parallel plang nggwa ko eh, but ung discharge in series? Nganga! Hehehe...God bless you too.

Well, there is actually a secret way to do this and that is the challenge, do it in automatic way.

There were some drawings a long way back showing caps charging in parallel and discharging in series. The key to this was diode placement, as I understood it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 30, 2014, 06:04:42 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 30, 2014, 06:28:52 AM
good day :)

This is were you should start digging ok and this is the truth. :)
PRODUCE DC FROM THE VIBRATION AND COILS USING SIMPLE VIBRATOR. :) 8)
QWERT KNOWS THE PDF ;)

IF YOU WILL JUST STUDY ALL BEST EFFICIENCY, THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT YOU CAN GET IT. ;) :) 8)

This PDF by Qwert?
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Overunity.com%20-%20Forum%20members/otto/ottos-open-tpu/ottotpu.pdf
Pages 2 and following he talks about using a mosfet to pulse the TPU...
Bob

Edit: ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: John.K1 on April 30, 2014, 06:59:14 PM

Guys,
I would like to bring forward some phenomenons like switchable inductance and asymetrical capacitors. Some experiments has been performed by Vladimir Utkin and who doesn't know his pdf document I really recomend to download the latest one and read it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on April 30, 2014, 07:49:26 PM

Yeah! its in the utkin pdf. File.

Wonder y the akula 30 thread is not accessible? :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on May 01, 2014, 02:52:38 AM

Quote from: crazycut06 on April 30, 2014, 07:49:26 PM
Yeah! its in the utkin pdf. File.
Toroidal coil maybe related to the psf
http://www.overunity.com/13721/energy-from-the-ground-self-powered-generator-by-barbosa-and-leal/msg400534/#msg400534 (http://www.overunity.com/13721/energy-from-the-ground-self-powered-generator-by-barbosa-and-leal/msg400534/#msg400534)

Wonder y the akula 30 thread is not accessible? :o

OU RESEARCH membrship by invitation

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 01, 2014, 07:06:14 AM

sequential firing :o
not sure how this would work
I was just thinking about caps charging over time

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: John.K1 on May 01, 2014, 07:34:31 AM

Sequential firing. - Maybe couple mosfets and Arduino Uno? Also some math behind. How many caps you will need to get constant output considering discharge time?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on May 01, 2014, 08:42:42 AM

Check it here also.

http://www.free-energy-info.com/PJKbook.pdf page 422.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on May 01, 2014, 09:06:56 AM

Para akong pinagsakluban ng langit at lupa di pa nga ako nanliligaw wala ng pag asa. Di pala boto sakin ung parents nung crush ko :-[ :-[
Mag pokus nalang ako d2 sa ou pag yumaman ako dahil d2 baka magbago pa isip nun.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on May 01, 2014, 09:21:13 AM

There is no god there is no overunity...... :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on May 01, 2014, 12:15:26 PM

http://www.overunity.com/14378/akula0083-30-watt-self-running-generator/msg400763/#msg400763 (http://www.overunity.com/14378/akula0083-30-watt-self-running-generator/msg400763/#msg400763)
Some ideas on recovering spikes

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 01, 2014, 12:41:12 PM

Quote from: romerouk on September 26, 2010, 06:12:02 PM
Here is a simple way to demonstrate energy amplification. I have used this circuit with very good results and also used in the kapanadze 12 volt replication I have. D1 togheter with the right pulsing adjustment is the key to get a succesfuly working device. I hope people will understand what that D1 is doing there... I have tried to explain this before but nobody seems to understand.
Check the folowing link for more details http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm)

See Romero's basic schematic on page 21.

Tito's response about components needed, down from Romero's post:

QuoteGOOD DAY! (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif))
Well, i must admit that you're all doing a great job!.
though your work seems so complicated to me, but still good. (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif))
we actually need only coil, caps, diode, zdiode and relay to complete the working device that will last for 11 years (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif))
Note: A.) Electricity is dual in one "CRON". so separate them then, Walla, we have controllable
energy!
B.) We can actually re-use the collapsing magnetic field to make an extremely strong magnetic
field.
remember: how the nature work as tesla say about the rolling stone ice.

I suspect the relay is interchangeable with a mosfet or joule thief. Relays can also be hooked up in reverse to self-oscillate, but they don't last very long doing so, in my experience.

From Page 22, post by Tito on caps:

QuoteThe very fast bouncing point inside a cap is the direction if it is neg or pos bounce and from there we can collect all pos and neg bounce and from there also we develop a strong pressure, and if we have that pressure we want then thats the time we connect and distribute water to the consumer, ha,ha,ha sorry. i hope you can decipher it, its fun.

From Tito on page 23:

Quoteremember: i have now 12 different designs of free energy and i am telling all of them here, only in jumble manner sorry. (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/sad.gif (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/sad.gif))
BUT THEY POSSESS ONE COMMON CIRCUIT AND THAT IS THE AMPLIFICATION technique.
Everyone ok!: used the YIN and YANG technique to dissipate a strong energy and instead used it in divertion!

QuoteTeets, p. 28: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg259628/#msg259628 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg259628/#msg259628) using a very simple 555chip makes this tpu a smooth and safe. ofcourse with our amplifier added.

QuoteTeets P. 30: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg260290/#msg260290 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg260290/#msg260290) We can use a simple relay in ozone patent as a vibrator setup.
But computer fan is much better in heavy duty use.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 01, 2014, 01:18:39 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 19, 2010, 12:13:22 AM
Another Example:

Let say for example everyone is holding a candle, starting from me, i will lighten the two and the two will lighten the four and so forth lighting everyone by everyone.

This technique is the rolling ice stone or falling domino and this is the ultimate amplifier of tesla that was not directly recorded but we can see the first steps in many of his patents.

All we need to do is RE.

That's it, i have given you the closest tip i could give, i hope you can do it

Good luck once again, be careful and bye. ;)

Otits L. Noicaro ;D

"All you need is RE." Is not another word for RE (radiant energy) the inductive kickback that takes place immediately after a voltage pulse? Okay, so if your pulse is the "push", the RE is your "pull", as the open dipole sucks energy (RE) in. There's your push-pull. What do we do with the "pull" once we have it? If we have enough coils pulling in RE, we'd need to dump it into caps, away from the supply side to the load side, and diodes will help there.
Lunch over, back to work.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 02, 2014, 04:38:37 AM

RE- respond, replay, regarding, repeat, reassign , maybe to radiant energy

CRON - The software utility [/font][/size]cron[/font][/size] is a time-based [/font][/size]job scheduler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_scheduler)[/font][/size] in [/font][/size]Unix-like (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix-like)[/font][/size] computer [/font][/size]operating systems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system)[/font][/size]. People who set up and maintain software environments use cron to schedule jobs (commands or [/font][/size]shell scripts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_script)[/font][/size]) to run periodically at fixed times, dates, or intervals.[/font][/size]

Tito tips are so vague, he probably consider it to be easy but it's not.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on May 02, 2014, 06:47:05 AM

Guys
Tito have said once something that really needs some consideration.

'Charging capacitors in series and discharging in parallel.'

So, lets assume that we have 16 capacitors in series of 1μF each. Total capacity in series is 62.5nF. If we discharge the first one in the raw what will be the output energy from this cap? Will this correspond to an energy stored in a 1 microfarad cap? Because if this is the case, then we can charge a raw of some capacitors in series really quickly (very small capacitance), and by discharging each one separately we are going to rock. :)

ps. Now that i think it more clearly, the voltage of each one in the raw will be the 1/16th. So energy from each capacitor will be lower than i was thinking. E=0.5 C Vsquare. So even charging them in series or in parallel the energy stored is the same. But still there is a big difference in charging time. Charging them in series, can be done much faster than the other way, and so the discharging will be in a more fast way. Do i miss something?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 02, 2014, 08:06:09 AM

Quote from: Jeg on May 02, 2014, 06:47:05 AM
Guys
Tito have said once something that really needs some consideration.

'Charging capacitors in series and discharging in parallel.'

So, lets assume that we have 16 capacitors in series of 1μF each. Total capacity in series is 62.5nF. If we discharge the first one in the raw what will be the output energy from this cap? Will this correspond to an energy stored in a 1 microfarad cap? Because if this is the case, then we can charge a raw of some capacitors in series really quickly (very small capacitance), and by discharging each one separately we are going to rock. :)

ps. Now that i think it more clearly, the voltage of each one in the raw will be the 1/16th. So energy from each capacitor will be lower than i was thinking. E=0.5 C Vsquare. So even charging them in series or in parallel the energy stored is the same. But still there is a big difference in charging time. Charging them in series, can be done much faster than the other way, and so the discharging will be in a more fast way. Do i miss something?

Well, I'm not expert but there is much more to consider. For example ESR in parallel configuration is probably much less. Personally I would rather try to charge them in parallel then reconnect in series to get high voltage and then discharge.
Have you ever tried to discharge 16V electrolytic capacitor compared to 400V one ? (don't try that at home, be careful).
Definately what we need is higher voltage. Check how many patents Tesla had for high voltage switching controller. Today we still have no good device for such purpose...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 02, 2014, 09:03:38 AM

The circuit I posted could be built using igbt's or mosfets pulsed in sequence,

I dont really understand how it can be done any other way, it takes a capacitor time to charge, look at the flash of a camera, it takes time to charge a cap.

QuoteCharging capacitors in series and discharging in parallel

can someone put this into a schematic, not complete just showing switches like in my pic would be fine.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 02, 2014, 09:14:41 AM

If a toroid were wound bifilar and dc current were ran through one winding to the load and the other winding were pulsed would we still get bemf.
I need to fix my scope or buy another one, its like shooting in the dark without one.
Im raising three grandchildren so my time has really been limited here lately.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on May 02, 2014, 09:34:53 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 02, 2014, 09:03:38 AM
.........
can someone put this into a schematic, not complete just showing switches like in my pic would be fine.

Patent Application US20080030165 7th February 2008 Inventor: Bozidar Lisac
METHOD AND DEVICE FOR SUPPLYING A LOAD WITH ELECTRIC ENERGY RECOVERY.

http://www.google.com/patents/US20080030165

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 02, 2014, 09:44:13 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 02, 2014, 09:14:41 AM
If a toroid were wound bifilar and dc current were ran through one winding to the load and the other winding were pulsed would we still get bemf.
I need to fix my scope or buy another one, its like shooting in the dark without one.
Im raising three grandchildren so my time has really been limited here lately.

Interesting thought. Would the straight DC winding act like a secondary and also pick up the inductive kickback from the pulsed DC winding? Hope your scope hunting works out - I can see how you'd need one for this.
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 02, 2014, 09:48:32 AM

Just a quick thought - what is the purpose of Tito's zener diode? At first, I thought it was to restrain excess voltage. But Synchro said something earlier on in this thread about the zener's breakdown/avalanche mode allowing in radiant energy. What if you had a few zeners in series and hit them with a voltage that exceeded its breakdown threshold... would the zener act as a degenerate semiconductor? I'll see if I can find more about it later. Back to work.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on May 02, 2014, 10:44:34 AM

Quote from: Jeg on May 02, 2014, 06:47:05 AM
Guys
Tito have said once something that really needs some consideration.

'Charging capacitors in series and discharging in parallel.'

Actually I think it's the other way around.

Tito was trying to point you to some specific Tesla patents, some of which charge caps in multiple and discharge in series
577670
568176
568180
583953
Understand what it is that makes these devices work, and not so much the construction details.
Study the patent text as well as look at the circuits. 577670 actually uses the word "kick" and 568180 uses the phrase "make and break". They make use of something called electrical inertia. Electrical inertia is what enabled Tesla to extract such enormous horse power from devices. Electrical publications from the early 1900s are extremely interesting. Also look at Tesla patents 568177 and 609250.

You know, no one says you absolutely must use the oscillations to shoot gigantic sparks into the air.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on May 02, 2014, 10:54:30 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 01, 2014, 07:06:14 AM
sequential firing
not sure how this would work
I was just thinking about caps charging over time

Hi Dave,

In your sequential firing schematic proposal, each capacitor is charged up from the battery and discharged by the left hand side coil. This setup takes energy from the battery in any and each capacitor charge-up sequence.
I think Tito meant using several (perhaps separate) coils besides the capacitors and say the first coil is switched onto a battery, then after the switch-off the collapsing field in it is routed to a capacitor and then this capacitor as a next step in the sequence is discharged onto a second coil by a second switch (Zener diode perhaps comes in here not to let the cap fully discharge). Now the collapsing field of the second coil is routed to a second capacitor and so on, repeating the cap-switch-coil chain several times. While this setup may achieve the "avalanche chain effect" Tito referred to from Tesla's comparison to get an avalanche from a snowball, conventional science says here that you cannot receive more energy from the collapsing fields than what was fed into the coils... but one has to test this in the chain setup (if that is what Tito meant), perhaps there is something in it, (from the 2nd stage in the chain and onwards, the capacitors (and coils) are charged up from the first input current pulse energy switched onto the 1st coil and then always from the collapsing fields energy of the previous coil in the chain) This means that from a single input pulse you (seemingly) get several charged caps and coils.

Regarding your question: "Charging capacitors in series and discharging in parallel, can someone put this into a schematic, not complete just showing switches like in my pic would be fine."

Naudin showed such a (complete) schematic with 3 MOSFETs, he connected two 22,000uF caps in parallel and then in series, the charge up for the caps was in parallel from a 8.4V battery via a Lego motor and the discharge was done in series, also via the Lego motor back to the 8.4V battery to attempt to recharge it. See this link:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/scalchrg.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/scalchrg.htm)
MOSFET switches M4 and M5 are controlled together ON or OFF and MOSFET M6 is controlled oppositely, OFF and ON with respect to M4 and M5. When M4 and M5 are ON (and M6 is OFF) the two 22,000uF is connected in parallel (Charge phase) and then M4 and M5 are OFF and M6 is ON so the two caps are connected in series (Discharge phase).

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on May 02, 2014, 11:20:01 AM

Electricity at High Pressures and Frequencies by Henry L. Transtrom, 1913

Chapter 13: High frequency currents.
Electric inertia.

What happens when you discharge a condenser into a coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on May 02, 2014, 11:27:35 AM

Quote from: Cadman on May 02, 2014, 11:20:01 AM
Electricity at High Pressures and Frequencies by Henry L. Transtrom, 1913

Chapter 13: High frequency currents.
Electric inertia.

What happens when you discharge a condenser into a coil.

Thanks Cadman for the info.

In relation with the caps series or in parallel, they store the same energy in both ways and nothing more unfortunately.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on May 02, 2014, 11:43:50 AM

QuoteIn relation with the caps series or in parallel, they store the same energy in both ways and nothing more unfortunately.

That is not the point. :) Please study the patents.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: John.K1 on May 02, 2014, 12:52:03 PM

Hi Jeg,

I agree with you, just charging in one way and discharging other way it is still about the same energy we putted from our battery. Our aim should be to charge that cap not from battery. To give it impulse, and let the nature to charge it (to get to the balance)

Cheers,
Jan

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 02, 2014, 01:58:41 PM

Quote from: Cadman on May 02, 2014, 11:20:01 AM
Electricity at High Pressures and Frequencies by Henry L. Transtrom, 1913

Chapter 13: High frequency currents.
Electric inertia.

What happens when you discharge a condenser into a coil.

https://archive.org/stream/electricityathi00trangoog#page/n45/mode/2up

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on May 02, 2014, 02:19:14 PM

Please download & read the pdf version. The online version omits certain pictures and renders circuit diagrams only partially. Figure 90 is one of the important ones that is incomplete online.

https://archive.org/details/electricityathi00trangoog

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on May 02, 2014, 02:51:59 PM

Just a thought.
Lets say that we want. to charge rapidly a micro wave oven capacitor and fire it through a spark gap. To do it fast we usually use a power supply of not more than 2kv and with much current so to recharge it quickly after each discharge.

What if we shot this same cap with i.e 40kv impulses, or even better with 80kv with minimum current consumption, and set the spark gap for 2kv discharging. Theoretically by creating a higher pressure than normal, it will fill the capacitor as fast as with the conventional way, and the same time the current consumption will be very low. And in addition no need for making very high voltage caps to handle all this hv. And I am referring to Tesla coils and capacitor filling from earth.

What is your opinion?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 02, 2014, 03:10:36 PM

we need big BUUUM !!!! that means we need higher voltage and low resistance to get kick , right ? and Tesla knew what to look for because of BUUUUM !!!
you cannot do that with low voltage, why ? there is no inertia, because pressure is low, volume is big but not pressure, got it ?

so you should be closer to the kick now I think :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on May 02, 2014, 03:16:37 PM

Quote from: Jeg on May 02, 2014, 02:51:59 PM
Just a thought.
Lets say that we want. to charge rapidly a micro wave oven capacitor and fire it through a spark gap. To do it fast we usually use a power supply of not more than 2kv and with much current so to recharge it quickly after each discharge.

What if we shot this same cap with i.e 40kv impulses, or even better with 80kv with minimum current consumption, and set the spark gap for 2kv discharging. Theoretically by creating a higher pressure than normal, it will fill the capacitor as fast as with the conventional way, and the same time the current consumption will be very low. And in addition no need for making very high voltage caps to handle all this hv. And I am referring to Tesla coils and capacitor filling from earth.

What is your opinion?

This is what you should do with the secondary side of the high frequency transformer, charging multiple caps.

@forest
You sound like Tito :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 02, 2014, 06:44:15 PM

Good day ;D

Now i can see that this thread is now in right direction. :)

happy experimenting. ;)

BALANCE IS ALWAYS BE YOUR POINT OF CORRECTION :) 8)

God bless and goodbye :)
Take care everyone ;)

Otits l noicaro ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 02, 2014, 10:42:19 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 11, 2013, 11:59:06 PM
Say the cap is charged to 10v, for example. The zener is inline with the discharge switch in reverse bias to the discharge current. Close the switch and the cap will discharge through the zener because the voltage across it is above 3v and when the voltage gets down to 3v its cut off. Or like I said in my last post, it is possible that the reverse bias across the diode(3v) might dissipate before the cap gets down to 3v. Just thoughts so far.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 02, 2014, 10:43:10 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 11, 2013, 11:09:30 PM
Been thinking about the zener diode. Tito said 'at least 3v"

1 of 2 things it could possibly be used for.

1 Which Ive always thought might be the case was that the 3v was used as a trigger, to discharge when a cycle was at that point. But considering the simplicity of the circuit he had shown at the time, Im not really sure.

2 Could it be used to stop the discharge of a cap when it gets down to 3v? Maybe in the flow of things the zener cuts off due to insufficient reverse bias, but the cap is not down to 3v yet. :o ;D Could this be a way to disrupt the discharge, blow out the spark? The discharge could be through the zener in order to stop the dc current mid flow, or at least before the cap reaches zero volts.

Still contemplating what wire and no. of turns for this lil bugger.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 02, 2014, 10:44:36 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2013, 12:57:09 AM
ok!

I just used the zener in my latest project which do not use transformer anymore, it has nothing to do with the our last project. clear?. :)

well, but if your asking if i used diode as a circuit controller, that's a big YES! and that is so easy and up to that only i cannot anymore give the detail ok?. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 02, 2014, 11:11:49 PM

Quote from: Qwert on April 11, 2013, 04:06:44 PM
Here is the EDITABLE document I promised earlier, "The Super Tube" - chapter derived from the book "Quest for Zero Point Energy" by Moray B. King

I think this might be the pdf Teets was saying Qwert put together:
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/dlattach/attach/122488/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 02, 2014, 11:17:07 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 11, 2013, 04:03:50 AM

It's the radiant receiver of tesla and moray, Radiant energy transmitter and receiver is the perfection of alternating current. That is the climax of tesla in alternating current ok?! >:(

And i am really showing that way to all of you guys, go mad at me but that is the real way ok! >:(

magnets are optional but really can amplify but if there is no magnet we can do it normally ok. no chemicals added!. :)

THINK ABOUT THIS, "WHEN TESLA PROPOSING THIS MAGNIFYING TRANSMITTER TO MORGAN, EVERYTHING STOPS THERE IN AC." DID YOU NOT NOTICE THAT? That is where the biggest suppression to tesla ok. stopping the support and destroying it.
Magnifying transmitter is the fulfilled dream of tesla ok. AND THE SECRET IS REALLY IN THE RECEIVER. RADIUM IS GOOD BUT IT WILL KILL ALL PERSON IN THE VICINITY EVEN YOU IF YOU ARE NOT INSULATED.

FULFILLED BECAUSE ITS ALREADY WORKING IN HIS MIND. DO YOU THINK TESLA WILL BUILD THAT AND SPEND LOTS OF MONEY JUST FOR NOTHING?

THINK, THINK, THINK LIKE TINKER BELL ;D

NOW!, I ALWAYS SAY TO THIS!!! THAT IS THE REAL WAY OK. >:(

That thing circuit above is not a good idea ok.
well, it act like an equilibrium but its not a good one believe me ;) low gain together again. ;D

JUST IMAGINE HOW TESLA VALUED THE CAPS.
YOU CAN NOW DO THE GUESS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on May 03, 2014, 07:29:02 AM

Quote from: John.K1 on May 02, 2014, 12:52:03 PM
Hi Jeg,

I agree with you, just charging in one way and discharging other way it is still about the same energy we putted from our battery. Our aim should be to charge that cap not from battery. To give it impulse, and let the nature to charge it (to get to the balance)

Cheers,
Jan

Jan and cadman you pointed out the same thing. Thanks! I saw it in practice, and i'd like to add a small detail which will make the difference between an OU and a conventional system.

Cap. bank needs a separate ground from the secondary coil. Voltage and Current in Ed's terminology, can not pass from the same line together in the same direction. If you force it to do it like grounding together the coil and the bank, then you make your ground useless, and what effect you will create, uses current and voltage from your battery ... (Cap bank sucks current from ground, while the coil sucks voltage..)

Would you like to discuss about ways to extract the energy from the bank without destroying the resonance? As Gyula said on another thread, when we put a low impedance load to the bank, disturbs the high impedance resonant circuit, and resonance is gone for a while until it builds up again. This meantime, in my test system is about one second and it is very annoying. One way that i am ready to test, is to put a diode and a charging coil right after the bank, driving a smaller capacity cap and discharging this small cap through a gap. But i don't have a good feeling as again during the recharging, a low impedance forms again at the output which probably is enough to destroy again the resonance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on May 03, 2014, 08:43:46 AM

@Hi there guys

Hahahahaha

Back and forth, back and forth, this is the swinging motion of this thread.

I had been looking at zener diodes as well since many years I had been eluding to the usage of zener diode to actually be used as a pulsing medium. I have collected some nice zeners since then slowly but surely, but the one I really want to find I have not been able to find. Let's say you have a hefty sized 1 volts zener diode (10 amp). You supply it 12 volts, it will pass 11 volts. If that 11 volts can short the feed battery is some way, the voltage should then drop to zero volts, thus opening the zener, then closing it again with the next 12 volts application. If zeners can be used as the pulsing initiator this would be a great method for simple and robust pulsing. I will eventually have to work on that more full time to bring it to fruition. Time is always the factor.

About the cap charging in series and discharged in parallel, way back I made an animation of this on how I see this being accomplished with a solid state circuit of even with a mechanical switching method. All you need is to switch in and out with a radiant energy circuit feeding it and it should collect energy. I do not have the technical ability to bring this to life in a solid state way, but I am more then convinced such a circuit could be used anywhere to accumulate radiant energy from anywhere on the planet and make it usable, without considering this magic, hahaha. Or it could be a wind turned or water turned mechanical switching and as long as it turns, it accumulates energy without turning a drag producing rotary generator.

See here: http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/voltage-grabber-circuit-VGC/

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on May 03, 2014, 09:04:33 AM

Hey Sir Teets,

Narinig o nakita nyo nba yun CF Wellness 8-in1 Coffee ay nkakasave ng electric bill?

http://www.cf-wellness.com/?page_id=10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RihmF2yYcFI
anu po masasabi nyo?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on May 03, 2014, 10:20:26 AM

Quote from: DimaWari on May 03, 2014, 09:04:33 AM
Hey Sir Teets,

Narinig o nakita nyo nba yun CF Wellness 8-in1 Coffee ay nkakasave ng electric bill?

http://www.cf-wellness.com/?page_id=10 (http://www.cf-wellness.com/?page_id=10)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RihmF2yYcFI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RihmF2yYcFI)
anu po masasabi nyo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yLQY3TkA5M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yLQY3TkA5M)

10 K php from Malaysia 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on May 03, 2014, 10:50:43 AM

@totoalas

Moreover, some says Malungay contains Germanium? which I believed a good receiver of RF?..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on May 03, 2014, 10:59:00 AM

Quote from: wattsup on May 03, 2014, 08:43:46 AM
@Hi there guys

Hahahahaha

Back and forth, back and forth, this is the swinging motion of this thread.
wattsup

Hahaha u r so right Wattsup, it is a matter of resonance and moon phases!!! ;D
Nice animation by the way. I also prefer solid state circuits as deep inside me i hate spark gaps..

Now that I speak about spark gaps I have a vision. Delusional or not I will express it..
If we use different metals as electrodes inside a spark gap, i.e aluminum and copper...
One of them is more negative than the other and they pocess different place in the triboelectric series list.
Do you think that this by itself can work as an one way charge moving? If yes, then goodbye expensive hv diodes...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on May 03, 2014, 11:21:07 AM

Quote from: DimaWari on May 03, 2014, 10:50:43 AM
@totoalas

Moreover, some says Malungay contains Germanium? which I believed a good receiver of RF?..

good for yhe health
my friend showed me his electric bill nov 2013 9k dec 7k jan 6k feb 5k just want to verify if u encountered this thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DimaWari on May 03, 2014, 12:01:04 PM

@totoalas,

Obserbahan ko pa sir.. kakainstall ko palang sa house di ko lam kun makakasave ako... But some show their e-bills and its zero!.. nkakabilib diba?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on May 03, 2014, 01:39:58 PM

Quote from: DimaWari on May 03, 2014, 12:01:04 PM
@totoalas,

Obserbahan ko pa sir.. kakainstall ko palang sa house di ko lam kun makakasave ako... But some show their e-bills and its zero!.. nkakabilib diba?

6666
i will buy today obly 188 pesos per pack od 10 sachets
will try also if not successful then we can drink the coffee instead please update me and share yr findings thanks 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 03, 2014, 08:09:56 PM

Hi Everybody
I read this last night while reviewing the thread. I think it has some important info.
Bob --

Quote from: Qwert on February 20, 2013, 04:24:25 PM
I guess I have solved one Tito's secret. Sometime in the past Tito mentioned that in his invention he uses a solution found in Tesla's Ozone Patent. Till now nobody seems to get, what exactly Tito meant.
In the post under this link
http://www.overunity.com/6734/real-ou-effect-to-share-with-everyone/msg206661/#msg206661 (http://www.overunity.com/6734/real-ou-effect-to-share-with-everyone/msg206661/#msg206661)
Tito gives an answer to a guy (FatChance!!!) who states a specific point of view:
"_{Simply because there is no overunity to be had from discharging a capacitor into a coil.
What you believe as overunity, is actually performed in everyday modern electronic devices.
I'm talking about the switched power supply. This is discharging a capacitor into a coil and
then stores the coil Bemf in the output capacitor. And there is no overunity what-so-ever.
In the best case, the switched power supply can reach 99% efficiency when using the best
components available, aka low ESR capacitors, LOW Rdson mosfets and the finest coils with
low resistance, very low hysteresis and eddy current losses.

All cases showing overunity while discharging coils or capacitors is always underunity.
Any overunity reports is just a clear sign of a person lacking the necessary measurement skills.}"

Tito's answer: "_{hi FC

try to study the ozone patent and your belief may be change ok} "

I guess, Tito's essence starts at about 85 verse, page 1 of the patent original text (patent # 568177):
"_{Around the controller is formed a circuit of low self-induction, which includes a condenser L and the primary M of a transformer. The circuit including the motor is of relatively high self-induction, and this property is imparted to it by the coils of the motor, or, when these are not sufficient, by the addition of suitable choking-coils, so that at each break of the motor-circuit a current of high electromotive force will be developed for charging the condenser, which may therefore be small and inexpensive. The condenser discharges through the circuit which is completed through the brushes G K and the controller H, and since the self-induction of this circuit, as well as the capacity of the condenser itself, may be given practically any desired value the frequency of the discharge-current may be adjusted at will. The potential of the high-frequency discharge-current is raised by a secondary coil N in inductive relation to the primary M.}"

Here is another link with relative subject:
http://www.overunity.com/7941/tommey-reeds-pulse-generator-output-test-update/msg197620/#msg197620 (http://www.overunity.com/7941/tommey-reeds-pulse-generator-output-test-update/msg197620/#msg197620)

" _{Hi tom good day
how did you made your PWM?
i mean how could it last the switching on and off?} "

And answer, just two posts below:

_{Otits,

The pulse generator is design so the kick back effect wont destroy the mosfet.
Think of one way valves, power goes in, and the kick back (or say fly back), goes into the cap.
If you add a diode to a coil, the fly back is shorted out to prevent the mosfet from being zap from the high voltage kick back.
I use 4 diodes for that reason, but add a cap into the center of the 2 diodes to collect the back emf.

Tom.}

Also, I found very important this link (innovation_station):
http://www.overunity.com/7513/creating-free-energy-out-of-collapsing-magnetic-field/msg184532/#msg184532 (http://www.overunity.com/7513/creating-free-energy-out-of-collapsing-magnetic-field/msg184532/#msg184532)
go and read it.

and this

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg202694/#msg202694 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg202694/#msg202694)
"_{what i'm saying is, as i am studying tesla's different kinds of patent, i concentrated most in this patents:}_{a) U.S. Patent 0,568,178 -
b) U.S. Patent 0,568,179 -
c) U.S. Patent 0,568,180 -
d) U.S. Patent 0,577,670 -

i've read also the teslas interview what forest's is posting in this subject

and i come up in a very simple solution when i combine bearden and bedini's technology.

sorry buddy i cannot give my circuit yet but i'm telling you the truth.

the only thing that i did not give is the arrangement of the circuit. ok its an rlc.

DO YOU KNOW THAT USING THIS METHOD CAN GENERATE KLWATT FROM A 1.5 VOLTS!
ofcource sub-staging technique must be used ok. "}I'm just reading these patents; right now I can only say that patent # 568178 is about setting resonance in a circuit.

I'm continuing to track Tito.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 03, 2014, 08:32:06 PM

Sorry guys - last post today. I came across this schematic using a zener and the poster talks about the possibilities of a big return thru avalanche breakdown. Please have a look. It's simple, but do you think it speaks to what we're trying to find here?
See: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352846/#msg352846
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on May 03, 2014, 10:53:22 PM

Hi.
This may be somewhat important at least for some of you:
there is a Tito's post which refers to another info but this post is just misspelled and leads to nowhere
(Re: Lords of the Ring
Â« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2007, 06:39:15 AM Â») - this is misspelled, there is no such address.
I've just corrected it.
Here is this Tito's post where he gives a link to the misspelled post (lords-of-the-ring):
http://www.overunity.com/7513/creating-free-energy-out-of-collapsing-magnetic-field/msg184535/#msg184535 (http://www.overunity.com/7513/creating-free-energy-out-of-collapsing-magnetic-field/msg184535/#msg184535)
and here's the correct(ed) one:
http://www.overunity.com/1872/lords-of-the-ring/msg21437/#msg21437 (http://www.overunity.com/1872/lords-of-the-ring/msg21437/#msg21437)

this post is pretty long but it's worth to read it, at least looks like Tito concluded that. Unfortunately, most links in that post don't work anymore though they did at the time of the year of 2009. (That was the reason that Giantkiller left this site).
But, one link, still alive, can be quite important, it's about flyback xformers:
http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_flytest.html#FLYTEST_006 (http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_flytest.html#FLYTEST_006)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on May 03, 2014, 11:20:21 PM

Quote from: Qwert on May 03, 2014, 10:53:22 PM
Hi.
This may be somewhat important at least for some of you:
there is a Tito's post which refers to another info but this post is just misspelled and leads to nowhere
(Re: Lords of the Ring
Â« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2007, 06:39:15 AM Â») - this is misspelled, there is no such address.
I've just corrected it.
Here is this Tito's post where he gives a link to the misspelled post (lords-of-the-ring):
http://www.overunity.com/7513/creating-free-energy-out-of-collapsing-magnetic-field/msg184535/#msg184535 (http://www.overunity.com/7513/creating-free-energy-out-of-collapsing-magnetic-field/msg184535/#msg184535)
and here's the correct(ed) one:
http://www.overunity.com/1872/lords-of-the-ring/msg21437/#msg21437 (http://www.overunity.com/1872/lords-of-the-ring/msg21437/#msg21437)

this post is pretty long but it's worth to read it, at least looks like Tito concluded that.

http://www.overunity.com/1872/lords-of-the-ring/msg21437/#msg21437 (http://www.overunity.com/1872/lords-of-the-ring/msg21437/#msg21437)

I see no reason why this can not be powered by a simple Tesla controller ( also known as a Tesla switch).

Tito: You should be as helpful as this guy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on May 04, 2014, 03:08:31 AM

@Hi there guys

Hahahahaha

Back and forth, back and forth, this is the swinging motion of this thread. :) :) :)

waiting fish here? it is better to learn fishing, to learn Tesla's or Bedini's devices.there are clear circuit diagrams there. if you know them well, you don't need to guess what Tito had said. otherwise, U just wast time here.

Tito's device is a simplyfied Tesla coil with the morden components: Z-DIODE AND TRIODE. or Z-diode

Weizisky

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 04, 2014, 07:46:28 AM

swing low swing high :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 04, 2014, 08:00:39 AM

Just thinking ::) :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 04, 2014, 08:14:32 AM

could we keep adding stages ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 04, 2014, 08:40:10 AM

Whatever you do dont try this,
it wont work
just ask MH or TK
your wasting your time
quit playing with silly circuits

watch tv
watch sports

watch tv
watch sports

we will take care of you
watch tv
watch tv
go back to sleep
go back to sleep

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
later
dave out

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on May 04, 2014, 10:41:58 AM

Dave45:

I just peeked in on this thread and see that myself and TK got honourable mention. Unfortunately your mockery is misdirected and it looks like it bounced off a transparent Lucite wall and hit you back in the face.

For starters, who ever said that you should go numb and just watch TV or go to sleep? Not me, so that is a straw man argument.

I tried to get you to wake up from your fantasies and get real and learn the basics of electronics but you rejected that. What's the result? You post totally retarded circuits like in your recent posting that don't even make sense. You have diode-capacitor ladder networks that can produce high voltage DC from an AC source. So you connect the DC outputs from your ladder networks to a transformer input, which needs AC to work. Complete nonsense!

You are still asleep Dave.

MileHigh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 04, 2014, 10:53:11 AM

Yea the sarcasm was unnecessary, sorry bout that :D

Its pulsed dc, look again ;)

Its a dual rail pos ladder on one side, neg ladder on the other

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on May 04, 2014, 10:59:15 AM

...and follow the bible to the letter also dave. (guffaw icon)

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on May 04, 2014, 11:34:35 AM

Dave,

Do a timing diagram. Your pulsed DC will work it's way up each of the two ladders so that you have say -50 volts DC plus a small bump as the potential keeps climbing. The other ladder network will do the same, +50 volts DC plus a small bump.

The transformer may couple the AC bumps, but at the same time the transformer will short out the 100 volts DC across the primary. It doesn't make any sense.

Captain Zero: If the day ever comes when somebody is "outside the box" from what I understand, I will say so. But if you don't have enough knowledge and experience, you don't even know where the walls of the box are. All that you end up doing is imagining that you are outside the box when in fact you are still inside the box. But you have no problem sitting back in your armchair watching other people spend their hard-earned money chasing after phantom boxes. It's a tricky issue.

MileHigh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on May 04, 2014, 11:54:54 AM

"...you don't even know where the walls of the box are."

I know enough to plainly see the box that encapsulates all of your text offerings.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 04, 2014, 12:02:53 PM

Well I havent built it so cant argue the point, just an idea.

It can be done and I will find it ;)

Ionization- charge separation is the key

Separation of atmospheric charge is the answer

You dont have to separate matter the charge is there albeit neutral (joined) create stress, pull the charges apart.

Like our Russian brother said "separate - collect "

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 04, 2014, 01:04:48 PM

Quote from: weizisky on May 04, 2014, 03:08:31 AM
it is better to learn fishing, to learn Tesla's or Bedini's devices.there are clear circuit diagrams there. if you know them well, you don't need to guess what Tito had said. otherwise, U just wast time here.

Tito's device is a simplyfied Tesla coil with the morden components: Z-DIODE AND TRIODE. or Z-diode
Weizisky

This is the conclusion I have come to - that the basic Bedini principle of collecting the inductive spike from a voltage pulse on a secondary is part of the equation. I believe the JFet (basically a solid state triode) will have a faster switching time than a mosfet. This is where I think Teets' Joule Thief clue comes in. It gives the pulse, and the RE (what some are calling bemf) backspike is harvested with a secondary.

Now, what to do with the harvested backspike from the secondary? Does the zener figure in at this point?

Here's some interesting related info on the subject of the pyrazo device:

Quoteimagine now a feedback loop such as the one in the Pyrazo circuit. The signal will come through the primary of the transformer used for pulsing, then right at its peak in one direction, the current through the primary is interrupted, causing the fields to collapse, and causing a voltage spike in the secondary. This spike is then routed through the primary again in the other direction, which makes for an even more dramatic change in the primary's fields which is effectively a feedback loop of inductive kick.

This pulse is aligned with the signal so that it effectively pulls the signal with the same spike. Effectively, it is broadcasting a cancelling signal.

Without the feedback loop of inductive kick, it would be no more interesting than the coupled induction they are doing over at MIT.
Source: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4550-pyrazo-circuit.html#post140393

The next stage, I believe is how to set up the caps to charge and discharge for a really big boom! :D
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on May 04, 2014, 02:10:13 PM

Hey guys
I need your help please. I am trying to find super ultrafast diodes with recovery time 20ns maximum with hv and high current characteristics. Do you have something in mind?
And one more thing. Many times I have read that spark gaps can work as diodes. But as I know during firing the oscillation goes back and forth through the gap. Is it something else that I don't know? What about the one I told you some posts above? I mean what if electrodes are different metals which have different position at the triboelectric list?

Tnks
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 04, 2014, 03:48:02 PM

Quote from: Jeg on May 04, 2014, 02:10:13 PM
Hey guys
I need your help please. I am trying to find super ultrafast diodes with recovery time 20ns maximum with hv and high current characteristics. Do you have something in mind?
And one more thing. Many times I have read that spark gaps can work as diodes. But as I know during firing the oscillation goes back and forth through the gap. Is it something else that I don't know? What about the one I told you some posts above? I mean what if electrodes are different metals which have different position at the triboelectric list?
Tnks
Jeg

Jeg, I figured a Schottky diode might help. I wasn't aware there are a new generation of Silicon Carbide Schottky diodes that seem even more reliable:

Quote
Schottky Diode
A Schottky diode recovers even faster than a silicon diode. Having a metal to silicon junction, it can switch at speeds up to tens of billions of times per second. While not suitable for every application, engineers use them in very high-frequency circuits.
Read more: http://www.ehow.com/facts_7505561_fast-recovery-diode.html#ixzz30mHA1hI6

The other main advantage of the Schottky diode is its fast recovery time--these diodes are extremely fast and exhibit little reverse recovery time. This is behind the Schottky diodes common use in switching regulator circuits and its popularity in high-frequency devices. The Schottky diode's fast recovery time can even eliminate the need for snubber circuits, which are commonly required with other types of fast rectifiers.

SiC Schottky Diodes
Silicone carbide (SiC) Schottky diodes are the newest innovation in Schottky diodes and boast a variety of improvements. This new type of diode has an even lower forward voltage loss than traditional Schottky diodes, and are easily paralleled for higher currents. SiC schottky diodes are also able to function at optimum performance levels regardless of temperature--something tradition Schottky diodes cannot do.
Read more: http://www.ehow.com/info_8187434_schottky-diodes.html#ixzz30mIFYYWa

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 04, 2014, 04:04:40 PM

Well, I have the same requirement... a super fast diode with breakdown voltage at least 600V and rated for continous current of at least 60A with pulsed current 400A or more...hard to find such one at resonable price...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on May 04, 2014, 04:46:35 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on May 04, 2014, 03:48:02 PM
Jeg, I figured a Schottky diode might help. I wasn't aware there are a new generation of Silicon Carbide Schottky diodes that seem even more reliable:

Thanks Bob. For sure they are fast. But what about power ratings?
The next days i'll try an idea for a spark gap. I will upload the test video.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 04, 2014, 04:51:41 PM

I found the notation on this schematic very interesting,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on May 04, 2014, 05:14:54 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on May 04, 2014, 03:48:02 PM
Jeg, I figured a Schottky diode might help. I wasn't aware there are a new generation of Silicon Carbide Schottky diodes that seem even more reliable:

Yes, and here is link to show some SiC (Silicon Carbid) diodes at Digikey but of course you can find such at other sellers and also SiC power MOSFETs are also a reality nowadays. However they are expensive.
http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv914=9&pv914=296&pv914=208&pv914=311&pv914=210&FV=fff40015%2Cfff8007f&k=silicon+carbid+diode&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&stock=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on May 04, 2014, 05:15:34 PM

Quote from: Jeg on May 04, 2014, 04:46:35 PM
Thanks Bob. For sure they are fast. But what about power ratings?
The next days i'll try an idea for a spark gap. I will upload the test video.

Jeg, just answered your letter too.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on May 04, 2014, 05:19:36 PM

Quote from: forest on May 04, 2014, 04:04:40 PM
Well, I have the same requirement... a super fast diode with breakdown voltage at least 600V and rated for continous current of at least 60A with pulsed current 400A or more...hard to find such one at resonable price...

What you mean on reasonable price... These types are close to your specifics: http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv914=210&pv914=37&pv914=312&pv914=313&pv914=216&FV=fff40015%2Cfff8007f&k=silicon+carbid+diode&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&stock=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25 (http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv914=210&pv914=37&pv914=312&pv914=313&pv914=216&FV=fff40015%2Cfff8007f&k=silicon+carbid+diode&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&stock=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25)

In Europe, Infineon manufacturers such devices.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 04, 2014, 05:45:06 PM

Ouch $106.00 for a 1.2 kv 50 amp

but what would you pay for free energy :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION = multiplication
Post by: that_prophet on May 04, 2014, 09:16:17 PM

USE PULLEYS TO MULTIPLY ROTATIONS = AC POWER

What this Christian Warrior is trying to get out to the world,
is the simplicity of tHis Gift.
Free Energy is here + now, even free of all patent fees =
please Goggle free_energy + yolasie.
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

free energy can be made simple,
you can use pulleys to multiply your electricity
instead of using oil to generate it

free energy is here now,,,
It is all done with pulleys. (mirrors of physical properties)
you use a small amount of electricity to rotate a very large pulley only the once,
then you get many times the power back out,
from the one or few generators connected to the same belt as the large pulley,
(rotating tens to hundreds of times the large pulley) all on the same belt

If you would like to know where this warrior is coming from,
please check these pages out :
http://beliefstoliveby.yolasite.com/
http://fire-starter.yolasite.com/
for my mission, Please view any of these Bible web pages:
http://doorschristmustpassthrough.yolasite.com/
http://decimationofthisevolutionfairytale.yolasite.com/
http://askthatprophet.yolasite.com/

but no one will listen to the simplicity of it
all you do is put power into a motor to turn a large pulley only one revolution
and then you get massive amounts of electricity back
from the many small pulleys attached in the same belt

It's workings are super simple
You put power into a motor to drive a large pulley only once (little energy)
+ You get out a multiple of that electricity
Depending on how small the generator pulleys are
As well as how many generators with little pulleys attached

With the amount of belt that goes around one large rotation
You can easily get 10 – 20 times the rotations of the input pulley
Then you can double your rotations each time you add yet another generator
On your own belt system, (easily done – takes little torque)

I figure, you simply must gain a multiple of the energy that you put in
As you are only putting enough power into the drive motor to rotate it only once
And you get back many times the electricity
Not only having smaller pulleys,
But gaining more rotations per foot of belt that you go through
To double or tripling your rotations by adding additional generators
on their own mini-pulleys

Free Energy is such an obviously simplistic discovery,
- as well as being extremely free + easy to produce,
what is the only reason for us missing this basic idea,
- we have been dumb to this free energy technology .

This technology has been hidden for far too long,
Please, go to this website
Search free-energy + yolasite
Or if this website allows URLs
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

then try your hand at producing a digital prototype
on one of the many free electronic simulator software's out there,
that will help start producing electric toys + tools,
and how about everything that runs on electricity,
being reproduced with free energy power supplies built into them.

Let's restart our economies,
by building industries that reproduce all of our electronics,
so that they are all self powered. (non polluting)

= First though, is getting rid of all the gasoline motors in our motorized vehicles,
and putting a GEM in them.

All we need to do, is have enough faith in His Word
to build these GEM (Good Electricity Multiplier) Miracle motor

THIS DOES INDEED WORK
(think about how simple this is)
(you put power in to rotate one large pulley once)
(you run a belt to rotate mini-pulleys many time)
(then you could add many mini-pulleys)
(each one rotating hundreds of times)
(multiplying your AC electricity)
(YOU MUST GAIN FREE ENERGY)

LOGICAL REASONING
It takes little energy to turn a one foot circumference pulley,
which can be used to drive a belt that turns a mini pulley
of one inch circumference many times
This 12X you gain your AC energy from the many times the small pulley rotates,
or even more from the many generators on mini-pulleys you add (no torque)
you can twelve times the AC electricity with every extra genertator attached
12X + 12X + 12X + 12X each starts to add up very quickly
all of these generators run free of any torque

come on guys + gals, this is so simple that it just has to work
you only put the small amount of energy to rotate a big pulley once
and you use pulleys to multiply your rotations many times
you could have ten mini-pulleys rotating hundreds of times
you simply must gain electricity
the torque is your only problem
and that would be minimal
if you only had a 12 inch circumference pulley
then you have 3 mini-pulleys
rotating 36 times for each one rotation of your large input pulley
YOU JUST HAVE TO MULTIPLY YOUR ELECTRICITY

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on May 04, 2014, 11:04:17 PM

that prophet.
Words are cheap. Prove it by showing a working prototype, or no-one will take
any notice.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on May 05, 2014, 04:41:43 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 04, 2014, 05:45:06 PM
Ouch $106.00 for a 1.2 kv 50 amp

but what would you pay for free energy :)

Hey Dave,

It is interesting that you pick the most expensive from the list shown in the above link... so yes, free energy can be expensive :D

There is the 1.2kV 99 Amper for $37.57 (APT30SCD120S) or the 1.2kV 68A for $26.44 (APT20SCD120S)

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 05, 2014, 06:48:20 AM

Hey Gyula
Thanks for pointing the others out.

been thinking about fields and rectification
rectification gives alot of insight into whats happening inside a transformer

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 05, 2014, 07:11:48 AM

It would seem pos and neg can run in the same wire just not at the same time,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 05, 2014, 07:41:12 AM

???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 05, 2014, 07:48:53 AM

might as well tie it all together eh :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 05, 2014, 08:41:41 AM

It would be interesting to build a ladder using this. A square ladder ???
MH you say the end transformer would short out but it wouldnt, using the ground they are out of phase.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 05, 2014, 08:54:38 AM

QuoteA square ladder ???

Would the diodes spiral around the ladder
Jacob's ladder

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 05, 2014, 09:11:55 AM

not sure ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on May 05, 2014, 09:17:02 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on May 04, 2014, 05:14:54 PM
Yes, and here is link to show some SiC (Silicon Carbid) diodes at Digikey but of course you can find such at other sellers and also SiC power MOSFETs are also a reality nowadays. However they are expensive.
http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv914=9&pv914=296&pv914=208&pv914=311&pv914=210&FV=fff40015%2Cfff8007f&k=silicon+carbid+diode&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&stock=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25

Gyula

Thanks again Gyula
I wonder how its possible to reduce recovery to 0 ns! This is a really good stuff and i thought it would be more expensive... :)

Dave i have an objection at your last drawings. It is more a try to clarify some thoughts of mine than objection.
Well, i believe that at every secondary coil always one side is current and other side is voltage. Even we see a fluctuation at each side which is always opposite at both sides, this fluctuation is only voltage at one side and current at the other. Lets take voltage side. If you put your probe there you will see the classic sinus going up and down. If you want to take it through a diode, only one direction is the proper and not both. You are trying to drive voltage to find current. And we know that voltage is always more negative. This is my basic rule which i started to use it everywhere.

If you need more clues for that... think that at one side of every secondary, a lamp puts out more light than on the other side, and this happens continuously and not only for one cycle of the oscillation..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 05, 2014, 04:24:24 PM

Hey Jeg
I used to think the same way

But if you study the diodes, half wave rectification and full wave rectification you will see that we get pos and neg on each side.

The primary sets up a field and the secondary sets up a field they are opposite, when the primary is pulsing one side the secondary is pulsing the other side.

This is what causes pos and neg to be generated on both leads.

They are out of phase, they dont occupy the wire at the same time.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on May 05, 2014, 08:03:03 PM

Solid State Pulsed Power Systems
Dr. Stephan Roche
http://www.purco.qc.ca/ftp/Steven%20Mark/mannix/solid_state_pulsed_power.pdf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 05, 2014, 09:07:29 PM

Sorry I havnt posted much. Havnt had much OU in my system lately. :-\

But I read Bobs post the other day quoting some of my ideas of the zener diode use.

Tito talked about the 'at least 3v' zener just after he posted his first diagram below. Well what if that diode in the diagram was a zener? The series resistor is probably for current limiting through the diode. Tito said to me in a pm, 'they can handle a lot of current'. So if that diode is a zener in the circuit, then the resistor is probably fairly low ohm, but enough to limit the current to a bearable level.

3v? Well the other direction is less than 1v. I might think that when the switch is open, if the cap is charged at the time, it would drain the cap. ??? Seems like a possible loss.

Anyway, just had those thoughts the last couple days. If anyone can think of why that diode might be a zener, and just what its purpose is, then maybe we can solve the 'what to do with the zener' issue. ;D

Lol, Tito said once, Coil as coil, coil as capacitor, 'coil as resistor' ??? Is that 'resistor' the coil of the relay switch?

Just things that clicked over the last couple days.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 05, 2014, 10:57:22 PM

:) Good to read ya Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 05, 2014, 11:13:13 PM

Hey Mags,
This zener thing is nagging me. Maybe if we can crack it, we'll be that much closer.
Something in this piece, "The Zener Effect" sure sounds like energy amplification during avalanche breakdown:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solids/zener.html
Text:

QuoteWith the application of sufficient reverse voltage, a p-n junction will experience a rapid avalanche breakdown and conduct current in the reverse direction. Valence electrons which break free under the influence of the applied electric field can be accelerated enough that they can knock loose other electrons and the subsequent collisions quickly become an avalanche. When this process is taking place, very small changes in voltage can cause very large changes in current. The breakdown process depends upon the applied electric field, so by changing the thickness of the layer to which the voltage is applied, zener diodes can be formed which break down at voltages from about 4 volts to several hundred volts.

Good to see you back.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 05, 2014, 11:18:55 PM

Goodnight men
gotta sleep :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 05, 2014, 11:36:04 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 05, 2014, 10:57:22 PM
:) Good to read ya Mags

Hey Dave

Tito said wind 3 wires. So possibly the primary(top side) is bifi. Or, the primary oscillates when the switch is open, and the secondary is bifi and rings at the same freq as primary and capacitor across switch? I dunno. Im all wishy washy with this stuff lately. Burned myself out on it all in the last couple years and no go-go. Have had to focus on work. As thats the only thing that has worked for me so far.

Things are really going down hill in this world. Some of it sooner than we think......

"By tomorrow at this time, you will know the entire story and what America will look like in the coming months"

http://intellihub.com/wwiii-has-already-been-lost-and-the-chinese-are-in-the-process-of-occupying-america/

Various other articles validate this one. And its happening quick right under our noses.

Depressing to say the least.

It would be nice to say there is no better time than now for an OU device. But considering the outcomes so far, I cant say its going to happen any time soon. Sucks.

Sorry for a depressing post. Its just the way Im feeling at the moment and lately.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 05, 2014, 11:50:02 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on May 05, 2014, 11:13:13 PM
Hey Mags,
This zener thing is nagging me. Maybe if we can crack it, we'll be that much closer.
Something in this piece, "The Zener Effect" sure sounds like energy amplification during avalanche breakdown:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solids/zener.html (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solids/zener.html)
Text:Good to see you back.
Bob

Hey Bob

Ill read up on that. I asked Tito if the zener was used as a spark gap in pm, and he said BIG YES.

Where we were in all this at the time, something just clicked and I asked him. But even though I had the thought, I have not been able to conjure up as to how it is used that way. My initial thoughts were that the zener would be able to cut off the gap flow like the magnets blowing out the spark. But then when I think about a 3v zener, seems unlikely. So Ive been stuck on that one for a while. What, 5 years now. ::) Sometimes I feel like Ive done some good stuff here, but sometimes I feel like what was it all for.

If I think of anything else, Ill post it. If I had the answers, they would be here on this page. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 06, 2014, 03:35:00 AM

well, one usage , though is not that important is to replace a diode with zener diode. Sometimes it is used in bridge rectifier also !
Example : you have a 12V lead acid battery and a diode from positive terminal to the buffer large capacitor.Then you have your magic device which once run from that battery will recharge capacitor to 15V, 16V for example and there is no more drain from battery. Then to recharge battery you replace diode with 3V zener diode and it then pass some current back to battery when voltage on capacitor is rised say to 16V. Personally I would not use it in any production system, but with a second zener 15V diode and resistor to limit voltage directly across battery it may replace complex recharging system.
Another usage which I imagine is to create very high frequency spikes in nanoseconds. Another usage as a spark gap usage seems to be limited to Tesla circuit with two capacitors ::) and may allow for example to get cold current from a main grid socket easily , though I naever checked it in reality...just use 630V PP caps with a transformer between them and then the rest of Tesla circuit replacing the parallel spark gap with a high power zener or better transil of 30kW at least on radiator (depending how much power you need to convert) - it won't give you much power but up to 100W is still nice and we can go with all experiments Tesla did.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 06, 2014, 07:21:57 AM

Yea our country is being sold out

Been thinking about water separation, now that I know a little about a little :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on May 06, 2014, 10:07:40 AM

Guys, I have been puzzling over the 'zeener as a spark gap' for months and this is the only thing that sort of makes sense to me. Please bear with me here.

The circuit below generates high frequency currents. P' S' is a low freq transformer with reactance coil X and P" S" the high freq. When the spark gap G is properly adjusted it will fire and produce the wave pictured below. The rapid oscillations feed to P".

When the spark gap fires it completes the circuit and allows the cap discharge to oscillate back and forth between the two cap plates due to electric inertia. For one cap firing through the gap the entire energy from the cap passes through P" several times, losing a little on each pass. The total effective energy to P" is still several times the initial cap charge. When the oscillation energy dies down enough the spark gap ceases to conduct.

So the question is, how can a zeener be used to emulate the behavior of the spark gap? It must not conduct until a high voltage is reached, and once that threshold is met it must conduct in both directions until the cap oscillations die down (to 3 volts?). Would it require a switch as well as the zeener?

Will someone with better knowledge please modify and repost the circuit below with a zeener replacing the spark gap so that the function is as described above?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on May 06, 2014, 11:52:56 AM

Quote from: Cadman on May 06, 2014, 10:07:40 AM
...
So the question is, how can a zeener be used to emulate the behavior of the spark gap? It must not conduct until a high voltage is reached, and once that threshold is met it must conduct in both directions until the cap oscillations die down (to 3 volts?). Would it require a switch as well as the zeener?
...

Hi Cadman,

I modified your schematic to include two Zener and two normal (but fast) diodes connecting them as shown. The extra diodes in series with the Z diodes are needed to prevent current flow via the Z diodes when the polarity of the AC voltage across the Z diodes would forward bias them, in these instances the normal diodes block the current. This adds an extra 0.7V to the Z voltage (the normal diode conducts in forward direction when the Zener diode conducts in its reverse Z direction).
Of course, you would have to connect several Z diodes in series to add up their Z voltages to reach an AC peak level where you wish the diodes to conduct i.e. to choose the "spark gap" voltage. And at the initial tests with these Z diodes the use of a resistor in series with the diodes to limit the AC peak current to that of any Z diode rating would be advisable (not to 'burn through' any diodes at the very first 'spark' i.e. conduction).

Let me notice that other than Z diodes, the so called Transil or / and TVS diodes could be used as "spark gaps" too, they are designed to withstand much higher surge currents than Z diodes when they break down at the chosen voltage level.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on May 06, 2014, 12:09:51 PM

Usefull ?
http://phys.org/news/2014-04-newly-universal-property-metamagnets-everyday.html#inlRlv

semi-closed electro-magnetic-cycle application ?

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on May 06, 2014, 12:59:09 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on May 06, 2014, 11:52:56 AM
Hi Cadman,

I modified your schematic to include two Zener and two normal (but fast) diodes connecting them as shown. The extra diodes in series with the Z diodes are needed to prevent current flow via the Z diodes when the polarity of the AC voltage across the Z diodes would forward bias them, in these instances the normal diodes block the current. This adds an extra 0.7V to the Z voltage (the normal diode conducts in forward direction when the Zener diode conducts in its reverse Z direction).
Of course, you would have to connect several Z diodes in series to add up their Z voltages to reach an AC peak level where you wish the diodes to conduct i.e. to choose the "spark gap" voltage. And at the initial tests with these Z diodes the use of a resistor in series with the diodes to limit the AC peak current to that of any Z diode rating would be advisable (not to 'burn through' any diodes at the very first 'spark' i.e. conduction).

Let me notice that other than Z diodes, the so called Transil or / and TVS diodes could be used as "spark gaps" too, they are designed to withstand much higher surge currents than Z diodes when they break down at the chosen voltage level.

Gyula

Gyula this is really cool! Thanks
I have tried in the past to use some KE400 TVs diodes in series through a spark gap as you describe. What I had noticed was that every time the voltage through the gap was going a little over of the total TVs voltage, then TVs were firing until voltage reach again this hv TVs limit and then close again. They didn't let all the charge from the cap to be grounded through primary for a massive bang. But I was using them in combination with a spark gap.
On the other hand perhaps this is what you r looking for. :)

Dave thanks for the explanation, some times I can't see the obvious. Especially before bed at nights!!! :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 06, 2014, 01:13:55 PM

This sentence in the link I posted above intrigues me, and I wonder if it holds a key:

QuoteValence electrons (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solids/sili.html#c5) which break free under the influence of the applied electric field can be accelerated enough that they can knock loose other electrons and the subsequent collisions quickly become an avalanche. When this process is taking place, very small changes in voltage can cause very large changes in current.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solids/zener.html (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solids/zener.html)
If the above is true, then it seems to me we're not just looking at voltage increase but a "very large change in current." Could this be an overlooked key to energy amplification in Tito's setup? I'm not sure, but thought I'd throw it out there.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on May 06, 2014, 01:24:24 PM

Thanks Gyula that helps a lot.

So the trick to getting a train of HF oscillations would be a balancing act.
Sufficient emf to charge the cap in 1/2 cycle or less
Keep the cap voltage within the diode capabilities
Proper relation between C and L to obtain the desired high frequency oscillations
Keep resistance of the LC circuit below 2√(L/C)
or
Charge the cap over several cycles, keeping to the other parameters
Discharge the first cap and use the HF secondary's higher emf to charge multiple caps in less than 1 cycle and feed those caps (one at a time?) through another spark gap(s) to another HF transformer(s) to get a better train of HF oscillations. In other words step it up through several stages to get to the goal.

Now it makes sense to me. I see now that using diodes instead of an actual spark gap would let us start out with lower initial emf.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 06, 2014, 02:16:21 PM

Very good Cadman. ;D I think you solved one of Tito's methods. For me too complicated...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on May 06, 2014, 02:38:10 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on May 06, 2014, 01:13:55 PM
This sentence in the link I posted above intrigues me, and I wonder if it holds a key:http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solids/zener.html (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solids/zener.html)
If the above is true, then it seems to me we're not just looking at voltage increase but a "very large change in current." Could this be an overlooked key to energy amplification in Tito's setup? I'm not sure, but thought I'd throw it out there.
Bob

Hi Bob,

I am afraid the highlighted sentence (small voltage change at the Zener voltage can cause very large current change) refers to the vertical distance shown in your link's Figure from the 1 mA point down to the I_Zmax point i.e. it does not mean an actual energy gain but a means to influence (to control) current flow through the Z diode between a min and a max current value at the expense of the voltage source (LC tank and then the C capacitor) initiating the current flow.

Putting this otherwise: the sentence you highlighted refers to a "variable resistor" behavior what you can control by a small voltage change around the Zener voltage, you could consider it as a voltage-level-selective ON/OFF switch that connects two points in a circuit at or beyond a determined voltage level, under that Z voltage it is OFF. When it is ON, the max current that can flow is determined by the impedances and the loads of LC circuits in Cadman schematic, the Zener is not known to add extra energy...

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on May 06, 2014, 02:46:41 PM

Hi Cadman,

What you describe makes sense but how would you solve energy extraction from the third or fourth etc LC tank or stage you kick from the previous tank or stage? Because the loads transform into each tank circuit as a "loss resistance", effectively reducing the oscillating energy swing in that tank, right? IT is okay that you start from a relatively low level and gradually increase it through the stages but common sense has it: the load (or loads) limit you in the end, no? I may be wrong here of course.

EDIT: if you could draw a schematic on a possible circuit (you envisioned in your above post) with a load connected, that would be great. 8) (For switches, just use switch symbols,)

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 06, 2014, 05:26:47 PM

Thanks for the clarification Gyula. Good to have you smart guys around. ;D
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on May 06, 2014, 08:24:03 PM

Zener diode debate:
Tito always talked about the zener as a safety device to prevent runaway.
In this regard it has the same effect as a spark gap placed in parallel in a critical part of the circuit.
When runaway starts, the spark gap will fire - thus limiting the current in the circuit.
This is what Kapanadze did in the aquarium 2 device.
My understanding is that you can use a zener for exactly the same purpose.
If you use a fuse instead , it will stop runaway, but will also kill the circuit.

Tito: Am I right?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 06, 2014, 09:01:29 PM

@Gyula
You seem to know alot about circuits.
If you dont mind my asking what looks promising to you.

I have alot of idea's just cant seem to find the time and so many directions to choose from.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 06, 2014, 09:56:32 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on May 06, 2014, 08:24:03 PM
Zener diode debate:
Tito always talked about the zener as a safety device to prevent runaway.
In this regard it has the same effect as a spark gap placed in parallel in a critical part of the circuit.
When runaway starts, the spark gap will fire - thus limiting the current in the circuit.
This is what Kapanadze did in the aquarium 2 device.
My understanding is that you can use a zener for exactly the same purpose.
If you use a fuse instead , it will stop runaway, but will also kill the circuit.

Tito: Am I right?

I remember it being a spark gap as a safety device. But the zener could work also at lower voltages. The bigger issue is getting a circuit to run away. ;) He said to use big rubber gloves. :o So I imagine he has put together a circuit that the voltages build unexpectedly and will jump out and git ya. ;D So the spark gap would be necessary to prevent too much OU. lol. Woulndt that be a wonderful thing to experience, even if it did bite you the first time? :o ;D ;D ;D Then we would know where we should put the spark gap.

If the circuit can bite you, it still could be controlled by a zener, just on the low voltage side instead. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 06, 2014, 09:59:08 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on May 06, 2014, 09:56:32 PM
I remember it being a spark gap as a safety device. But the zener could work also at lower voltages. The bigger issue is getting a circuit to run away. ;) He said to use big rubber gloves. :o So I imagine he has put together a circuit that the voltages build unexpectedly and will jump out and git ya. ;D So the spark gap would be necessary to prevent too much OU. lol. Woulndt that be a wonderful thing to experience, even if it did bite you the first time? :o ;D ;D ;D Then we would know where we should put the spark gap.

If the circuit can bite you, it still could be controlled by a zener, just on the low voltage side instead. ;)

Mags

The only info so far that I have seen that discusses self building oscillation is the Utkin files. I need to dig into that more myself.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 06, 2014, 11:15:32 PM

Teets said something in passing about a year ago on the role of a silicon component in his energy amplification. I'll try to find it. No luck so far. In the mean time, I found this:

QuoteWhen a semiconductor silicon diode is pulsed with oscillating DC at high voltage, rapid quenching, it causes the silicon to become superconductive which amplifies the power output.
I had observed this effect and after researching the net, I found other published papers confirming this effect.
There are also some published papers on the anomaly of AND gates magnification effect.
And more weird gains and losses in the Forbidden Zone of semi-conducters.
Source: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7455-plasma-effect-cosmic-ray-amplification.html#post131172

The posts by the same person below that one give a few further details. Time for bed.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on May 07, 2014, 05:06:31 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 05, 2014, 10:57:22 PM
:) Good to read ya Mags

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg349944/#msg349944 :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 07, 2014, 06:32:48 AM

I think I finally found what I was looking for.
I needed to isolate the source, diodes work but the reverse current or voltage back through the diode was a problem, this should fix that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on May 07, 2014, 12:58:11 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on May 06, 2014, 02:46:41 PM
Hi Cadman,

What you describe makes sense but how would you solve energy extraction from the third or fourth etc LC tank or stage you kick from the previous tank or stage? Because the loads transform into each tank circuit as a "loss resistance", effectively reducing the oscillating energy swing in that tank, right? IT is okay that you start from a relatively low level and gradually increase it through the stages but common sense has it: the load (or loads) limit you in the end, no? I may be wrong here of course.

EDIT: if you could draw a schematic on a possible circuit (you envisioned in your above post) with a load connected, that would be great. 8) (For switches, just use switch symbols,)

Gyula

Hi Gyula,

This is still very much a mind exercise at the moment and this is how it looks to me;
In my thinking the transformation of the emf into high voltage is not the main goal. Voltage is limited by the diodes, right?

What we want is the frequency on the HF secondary. So using the circuit you modified, lay out 5 of those in a row with a HF secondary feeding the next lower frequency transformer in the row. Starting at the first stage say we have a low frequency transformer cycling at 60 cps and our first cap is firing 2 times per cycle at it's own frequency of one million cps. Each cap discharge giving four cycles before depleting. That is not a million cycles, it's 480.
So the next stage bumps 480 cps to 3,840 cps, then 30720, 245760, then finally 1,966,080 cps. So five stages to get a truly HF output. Now we are at the point where an insignificant charge taken at the rate of 1,966,080 cps can provide some serious watts.

See, we don't really magnify the energy, we can't create it from nothing, but we can accelerate it and get more work from it even though we spend some of it during the acceleration.

One 0.018 mf cap with 20000 volts discharging at a rate of 2 million cycles per second, using 8 cycles to discharge, will give about 900 kilowatts if that discharge rate is continuous. How many times have we heard things like that?

As for taking the output for a load, one thing I can think of is to disconnect the load from the HF transformer. A pair or series of caps, one charging from the transformer while a different one is discharging to the load, the caps being in rotation between the transformer and load. All the transformer will ever see is the load from a cap being charged.

Lol, in my mind I keep picturing the HF transformer hooked up to a Gatling gun made of caps, firing into a big smoothing cap hooked to a load. :) How would you diagram that? :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 07, 2014, 01:40:06 PM

Cadman

Now you are talking my language :P ;) Everybody, listen... ;D ;D [size=78%] please check Tesla interview on his works with alternating currents... tips are planted there like rye in good soil... for example Diag 6 [/size] ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 07, 2014, 08:22:13 PM

Hope I'm not being a pain here guys. Trying to sift out more tidbits from Tito's posts.
Bob

QuoteHi sir teets,
Do you mean to replace the sparkgap with a capacitor?

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 14, 2013, 04:44:54 AM
NO!. The spark gap is already a capacitor, just make it quiet. ;)

be careful ladies and gentle men your dealing with extra ordinary voltage here if making lots of series bifi.
sometimes you don't notice and expect that you are reaching beyond limits in nature. :o

extremely careful! :)

Back emf means pulling from outside going back inside, so if your device can pull strong energy going back and you are near at it then lets celebrate ;D rip lol joke

according to tesla about his bifi coils strength is 250,000 times stronger than ordinary coils, so its great and really strong isn't it?

BIFI= STRONG PLUS OTHER SERIES = STONGER PLUS OTHER SERIES = STRONGEST ;D

50,000 VOLTS AND UP PLUS CAPS = STINGING EFFECT CAN BE FELT, WELL THAT'S ACCORDING TO TESLA, HOW MUCH MORE IF YOU CAN REACH MORE, WOW YOUR MORE THAN TESLA THEN ;D

QuoteFOR ME AND FOR TESLA, THE ENERGY IS ALREADY THERE AND EVERYWHERE COMPLETELY IN BALANCE STATE AND REALLY IN CONSERVATIVE ACTION, AND ALL WE NEED TO DO IS TO DISTURB IT IN THE AIR AND RECEIVE AND SQUEEZE IT FROM THE AIR. 8)

THE PLAN OF TESLA IS REALLY TO MAKE FLUCTUATION SO THAT TRANSFER AND INDUCTION IS POSSIBLE ;)

AND THE ROOT OF AMPLIFICATION IS THE SEPARATED PULSE. 8)

A CHAIN OF RE- ACTING IS THE WAY. ;) 8)

WE ARE ALREADY LIVING IN SEA OF ENERGY JUST HARNESSED IT ;)
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg358807/#msg358807

Quoteok!

Lets say we have a fully charged caps, if we make, make/break very fast, the caps will not fully discharge, and we can replenish it and back charge it in just one very fast make/break ok?

note: this technique is one side of the secret of tesla and its not anymore secret, it is fully showed in many tesla's patent.

another note: verrrrrry faaaaast make break.

Imagine we can make a lot of energy in just a very small chunks and that's truth. :)

Try to review the controller of tesla the material he used and look how fast he can make his make/break technique. ;)

i can compare this in one kicking of the bicycle, one kick and we can make a lot of rotation or make long distance from point of start. 8)

Actually there is no very special to the other side, its just really a common sense, believe me guys. ;)
Well, there is really a very little trick in the coil on how will you coil it. ;)
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg363778/#msg363778

QuoteWell, in primary it is best to do it in thick awg bifi and secondary is arbitrary and they were done in one purpose.

Ya, you try to connect and disconnect the caps, i mean very fast and it will not discharge all the juice. if you can make many make and break. then that's it. all you need then is how will you make your coil very efficient. isn't that simple guys?. its a piece of cake. ;)

Its like answering how many make/break you can do in just one fully charge caps?
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg363848/#msg363848

Quoteok!
The real secret lys in just every small kick to start a chain reaction that creates a momentum to propel itself. 8) :o

Now just put that in circuit and thats it. :)

so long fel. thats gold and truth! >:(

a single stick of a match can burn the whole earth and one capacitor is very enough to give us free energy, well if you want two or more then so what its ok, it will give help to other caps and thats good also but bulky and many. ;)

like what i already said, battery can solve grounding ok, for professional look. or connect it in the core to make balance in the reaction of or in the field. 8)
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg370928/#msg370928

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 07, 2014, 08:35:23 PM

Quotei want you also to discover the DC way of amplification cause ive'd found out that this is more safer than AC, well that is just my obsevation. :)

it is really good to re examine others work to formulate a better one. ;)

For me in my studies research and experience, the best or efficient way is not Ac nor DC BUT the combination of the two. 8)
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg371090/#msg371090

Quote@forest
as i told everyone we are not limited to one design ok, we are free. The important thing is you must knew the working engine. :)

Be careful buddy i know what you mean. that's very dangerous. :) :'(

it can strike very fast like lightning. :) :(
insulate your self ok?, be safe. :)
Cause without you, there will be flood in the city. like in the Philippines ;D

@stuffynose ;D

Source is not a big deal anymore okay. ;) let say we use the antenna source, the style of coil should be according to what it needs ok,

now if battery, of course it should depends on how you can use the full strength of the certain battery volts and its amp. 8)

in that way, what i mean a say is that it always depends on the source how you make your primary phases of coils. hope you get it. :-\ ???

it always need matching technique and balance. and timing is not anymore big deal also here but still included. ???

let say for example a child or a baby cannot chew foods that an adult can. ;)

Well, one time i made a design that needs a battery for just a starter, and if you will not remove it, it is being charge. so after start you remove it and that's it. it should stand itself. ;) and that design falls under sm, hubbard , bearden design. just caps ok 8)

and if you want antenna you really need at least two to three phase or i mean stage or whatever you call it. :D

BUT the best for me is the DC amplification, believe me. ;) :)
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg371649/#msg371649

Quotewell, bifilar is the best in primary, cause it doubles the effect of the input. ;) ;D

The design should always be simple as it can be, cause in the time of tesla he is just limited for electronic components ok. ;)

I BELEIVE I HAVE GIVEN ALL NECESSARY TOOLS TO USE, ONLY SOME PART OF ARRANGEMENT IS MISSING. ;D
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg371809/#msg371809

QuoteFor the Transformer part bifilar is indeed a better primary than single wire.Is the MAGIC COIL has the same length with the secondary coil in your design, what do you think that will work best, the same length or much longer than the secondary?

I have my focus on DC Amplification of Carloz Benitez 4 Battery Switch this guy has combine all the fame invention of Nikola Tesla into one set up with a promising result.

Again.. Thank you very much for that answer Bro Otits. ;)

::)stupifymeow 8) 8)

Tito's Response:
I am happy now for there is someone understand what i mean. :) ;)

Its actually an incident combination of the two multiply by 3. ;D sorry for the exotic formula. ;D

The longer wire will add up strength of the field, but it works best if you make the secondary is inside of effect strenght of the primary so that the extra wire will not become a friction to the flow. and from there you should be doing a large spark which is what we really is aiming.

and don't forget to add some KAL(SO4)2.12H2O at the HV portion. 8) :)

and that is the balance i am saying. ;)

That's all i can give buddy. be carefull. ;)

note1: it is the friction that makes things hot. avoid overheat ok. ;)
That is really the main reason why successful design is perfect. ???
There should have heat but not overheat ok ;)
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg371817/#msg371817

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 07, 2014, 08:40:49 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 29, 2013, 04:09:15 AM

Well, for me, radioactive is just another way of making energy, and in this way we are using energy in input to output, did you get that, i can't explain it very clear. ;D for me not a good way to ou.

FOR ME AND FOR TESLA, THE ENERGY IS ALREADY THERE AND EVERYWHERE COMPLETELY IN BALANCE STATE AND REALLY IN CONSERVATIVE ACTION, AND ALL WE NEED TO DO IS TO DISTURB IT IN THE AIR AND RECEIVE AND SQUEEZE IT FROM THE AIR. 8)

THE PLAN OF TESLA IS REALLY TO MAKE FLUCTUATION SO THAT TRANSFER AND INDUCTION IS POSSIBLE ;)

AND THE ROOT OF AMPLIFICATION IS THE SEPARATED PULSE. 8)

A CHAIN OF RE- ACTING IS THE WAY. ;) 8)

WE ARE ALREADY LIVING IN SEA OF ENERGY JUST HARNESSED IT ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 08, 2014, 05:03:07 AM

and also Diag 6, search for it... plenty of tips in this Tesla interview...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on May 08, 2014, 06:14:12 AM

instead 50 Watt some Units more f.e. : http://www.pulstar.com (http://www.pulstar.com) with "1000000 Watt compact" burst
force field energy density by capacitor/-s,but really decisive ?

Sincerely
OCWL

and this technology as e-magnet source and introduced f.e. here: http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=US&NR=4345174A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19820817&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=US&NR=4345174A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19820817&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

makes a Pulse Motor

from the Angus motor/engine description

The operation of the inventive engine 10 will now be described. It is first to be noted that the pull of an electromagnet varies as a function of the area of the holding surface muliplied by the square of the flux density divided by a constant. Also, that the flux density increases as the distance to the holding surface decreases. Hence, changes in the flux density is the greatest contributor to the pulling force of an electromagnet. Experiments conducted by the inventor have shown that an electromagnet powered by two "D" cell batteries can produce a holding force of 500 pounds and that the magnetic attraction force varies with the distance between the surface of the electromagnet and the item to be lifted. It was found, that at a distance of one-eighth of an inch, the force is approximately 7.8 pounds; at a distance of approximately one-twelfth of an inch the force is 31 pounds; at a distance of approximately one/twenty-fourth of an inch the force is 125 pounds; and, as stated, at contact, the force is 500 pounds. Thus, a usable force begins when the distance is one-eighth of an inch and increases rapidly thereafter.

But is HV and/or HF really a need ?
from the same "description":

As an alternative, to retain plate 25 against piston 24, plate 25 is made from a magnetic material and electromagnet 24 is energized by a low voltage during the override portion of the stroke.

No,there is not a need !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on May 08, 2014, 09:54:03 AM

Quote from: forest on May 08, 2014, 05:03:07 AM
and also Diag 6, search for it... plenty of tips in this Tesla interview...

Forest can you post a link to this particular interview, or the diagram? All I can find are excerpts with no diagram.

Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on May 08, 2014, 10:05:22 AM

Just an observation here

Tito posted info on various different devices he was experimenting with. I think we should make an effort to separate the different stages of these to minimize confusion. To me it seems like there are several separate stages involved, each mentioned at different times.

1. Collection of ambient energy to begin the amplification process, which is optional.
2. Amplification, a true increase. Chemical, carbon spark gaps, other? Also optional.
3. Frequency amplification, not optional.
4. Return energy to the starting point of the process.

That being said, Tito always encouraged us to learn the processes involved and create an original work.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on May 08, 2014, 11:10:49 AM

http://www.overunity.com/14134/forward-emf-collection/msg401660/#msg401660 Diagrams in words.

Quote from: Cadman on May 08, 2014, 10:05:22 AM
Just an observation here

Tito posted info on various different devices he was experimenting with. I think we should make an effort to separate the different stages of these to minimize confusion. To me it seems like there are several separate stages involved, each mentioned at different times.

1. Collection of ambient energy to begin the amplification process, which is optional.
2. Amplification, a true increase. Chemical, carbon spark gaps, other? Also optional.
3. Frequency amplification, not optional.
4. Return energy to the starting point of the process.

That being said, Tito always encouraged us to learn the processes involved and create an original work.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on May 08, 2014, 11:40:49 AM

I am 100% sure now don smith, tesla coil and kapanadze device draw energy from the ground. Theres no energy gain in coil alone. The coil only act as a pump of this energy from the ground. In core type like magnacoaster, MEG, and floyd sweet VTA (exception to bob and leal energy captor), the energy was drawn from the surrounding heat thereby coolling the core material and also thats why grounding is not necessary. The core material absorb the heat converting it to electrical energy. So if you want to build a portable energy device, choose core type and if you want a high power device choose air core ground type device.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: rc3po on May 08, 2014, 02:18:43 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 07, 2014, 08:40:49 PM

I'm new to this stuff. But I must confess that I don't take anyone seriously that uses that many "smilies" as Tito does; and I usually skip past their comments... no offense.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 08, 2014, 02:53:24 PM

I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it. ... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 08, 2014, 07:23:34 PM

Quote from: forest on May 07, 2014, 01:40:06 PM
Cadman

Now you are talking my language :P ;) Everybody, listen... ;D ;D [size=78%] please check Tesla interview on his works with alternating currents... tips are planted there like rye in good soil... for example Diag 6 [/size] ???

Forest,
Is this it? It took me almost two hours to find it:
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Aetherforce_Libary/Aether%20Mage/Nikola%20Tesla%20-%20On%20His%20Work%20With%20Alternating%20Currents%20and%20Their%20Application%20to%20Wireless%20Telgraphy,%20Telephony,%20and%20Transmission%20of%20Power%20(Leland%20I.%20Anderson).pdf
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on May 08, 2014, 09:19:12 PM

Quote from: forest on May 08, 2014, 02:53:24 PM
I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it. ... ;D ;D ;D

Thank you Lord amen... ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 09, 2014, 02:39:04 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on May 08, 2014, 09:19:12 PM
Thank you Lord amen... ;D

"I know why you're here, Neo. I know what you've been doing... why you hardly sleep, why you live alone, and why night after night, you sit by your computer. You're looking for him. I know because I was once looking for the same thing. And when he found me, he told me I wasn't really looking for him. I was looking for an answer. It's the question that drives us, Neo. It's the question that brought you here. You know the question, just as I did.
The answer is out there, Neo, and it's looking for you, and it will find you if you want it to."

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 09, 2014, 02:52:28 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on May 08, 2014, 07:23:34 PM
Forest,
Is this it? It took me almost two hours to find it:
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Aetherforce_Libary/Aether%20Mage/Nikola%20Tesla%20-%20On%20His%20Work%20With%20Alternating%20Currents%20and%20Their%20Application%20to%20Wireless%20Telgraphy,%20Telephony,%20and%20Transmission%20of%20Power%20(Leland%20I.%20Anderson).pdf (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Aetherforce_Libary/Aether%20Mage/Nikola%20Tesla%20-%20On%20His%20Work%20With%20Alternating%20Currents%20and%20Their%20Application%20to%20Wireless%20Telgraphy,%20Telephony,%20and%20Transmission%20of%20Power%20(Leland%20I.%20Anderson).pdf)
Bob

BIG YES ! I see there is now more then one copy on internet (still ? , you know it may be removed soon due to copyright). Those 2 hours was not lost, trust me... now you can find Diag 6 at the page 11 and read Tesla comment. I bought that book 3 year ago with shipping from USA to Europe and I use that book every time I need answer... The whole picture is really easy, the answer is not complicated , so even 5 years old child can perfectly understand ... Some texts in this book is still a mystery for me :-[ [size=78%] [/size] ::) [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on May 09, 2014, 03:14:41 AM

Quote from: forest on May 09, 2014, 02:39:04 AM

"I know why you're here, Neo. I know what you've been doing... why you hardly sleep, why you live alone, and why night after night, you sit by your computer. You're looking for him. I know because I was once looking for the same thing. And when he found me, he told me I wasn't really looking for him. I was looking for an answer. It's the question that drives us, Neo. It's the question that brought you here. You know the question, just as I did.
The answer is out there, Neo, and it's looking for you, and it will find you if you want it to."

Is that you Trinity? or Morphius? ;D
Sometimes i think of all this is like a software in the computer. All we see and feel in not real it just like a virtual world created by our mind with the help of gods technology like in the matrix movie.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 09, 2014, 03:36:35 AM

Neo

Need energy ? Look around everyday and find natural energy manifestations... ::) That way people found waterfalls, tides, lakes, sun heat ,sun light... beside..Earth is filled with electrons but dormant I suppose...

Somebody asked me about bifilar coils and I think they need much more study for bifilar coils and capacitors are two the most important tools for easier energy ... Now ,I 'd like to ask for some time and expertise....Can somebody check something for me related to bifilar coil? I don't have precise ohmmeter, only crap cheapest China digital multimeter. So if you have better tool (analog would be prefect like Wheatstone bridge) : basically to compute electrical resistance of coil and bifilar coil wound on the same ferfite core with the same length of wire. First of course ordinary coil need to be wound and checked then unwinded , cut in half and re-wound in bifilar fashion. Testing ideally should be done with analog and digital tool.

It's just a proposition of experiment. I have found that bifilar coil for my cheap multimeter seems to have less resistance then normal one. Probably an error but maybe not...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on May 09, 2014, 09:32:27 AM

Quote from: stupify12 on May 08, 2014, 11:10:49 AM
http://www.overunity.com/14134/forward-emf-collection/msg401660/#msg401660 Diagrams in words.

have you translate to "words in Diagrams ", Diagram will tell better .. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 14, 2014, 09:58:18 PM

Ok are we gonna let this thread die :)

pos an neg bemf?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 14, 2014, 10:12:57 PM

:-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 14, 2014, 10:22:39 PM

good circuit buddy. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 14, 2014, 10:54:10 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on February 14, 2013, 08:38:34 AM
For your amusement

Dave,
I really like this one you posted at this link quoted above. I think it may be the basis for Tito's primary, with a certain "twist." ;)
It strikes me as a series wound bifilar coil on an air core, with caps between the end of of winding A and beginning of winding B.
Tito's mentioned Wattsup's contribution about getting better capacitance using a twisted bifi. Instead of an air core, why not twist the bifi, joining the ends as in your diagram with caps as in the diagram.

I think there's one more tweak to the primary involving a tail (center tap) and a magnet.

I can't comment on the ones you've posted above. You're way ahead of me.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 14, 2014, 10:55:06 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 14, 2013, 10:15:30 PM
hmmmmmmmm

not bad dave :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on May 15, 2014, 12:43:26 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 14, 2014, 10:12:57 PM
:-\ (PNR Circuit)

I remember building a nearly identical circuit to that one some months ago, all on the same core (no significant result). But I never thought to physically isolate the two circuits from common ground. I wonder if that helps to separate the charges...

Neat idea, thx for that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: John.K1 on May 15, 2014, 05:04:51 AM

Guys, I gues it was here before but I would like to point again to what Tom Bearden said about the Massless Displacement Current and degenerative semiconductor (or special doped capacitor) I am at the stage of studying what he says but in general it givers me perfect sence also based on my own experience during my experiments.

My point here is to suggest to experiment with the different types of wires (materials) and also to use special type of capacitors (doped).

Learn it. Understand it. http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm

Some schematics here: http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/Final%20Secret%20of%2015%20Feb%201994/

cheers

Jan

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 15, 2014, 07:01:02 AM

Quote from: John.K1 on May 15, 2014, 05:04:51 AM
Guys, I gues it was here before but I would like to point again to what Tom Bearden said about the Massless Displacement Current and degenerative semiconductor (or special doped capacitor) I am at the stage of studying what he says but in general it givers me perfect sence also based on my own experience during my experiments.

My point here is to suggest to experiment with the different types of wires (materials) and also to use special type of capacitors (doped).

Learn it. Understand it. http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm)

Some schematics here: http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/Final%20Secret%20of%2015%20Feb%201994/ (http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/Final%20Secret%20of%2015%20Feb%201994/)

cheers

Jan

Hey Jan
I like the idea of a doped capacitor
got any idea's
do we build our own or are there some readily available.

thorium from microwave magnetron?
anyone?

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: John.K1 on May 15, 2014, 07:29:40 AM

Hi Dave

In the document they say you can get very good doped capacitors for calibration -but, they're very expensive.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 15, 2014, 07:48:17 AM

Quote from: John.K1 on May 15, 2014, 07:29:40 AM
Hi Dave

In the document they say you can get very good doped capacitors for calibration -but, they're very expensive.

I wonder could we dope a cap like a p-n junction, boron - sulfur

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 15, 2014, 09:00:07 AM

Can we improve it

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 15, 2014, 10:58:04 PM

:-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 16, 2014, 10:39:17 PM

Need an ic to drive the fets

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 16, 2014, 11:02:53 PM

parallel to series

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 16, 2014, 11:25:48 PM

I dont guess they will cross over and drive each others gate eh.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on May 16, 2014, 11:56:31 PM

Dave:

How about parallel resonance instead?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 17, 2014, 04:43:22 AM

The problem with resonant circuit as I fight with is that only special ratio of inductance to resistance can allow energy accumulation or stable preservation in tank circuit. Most of other are damped oscillations (ring down). If you connect any load it adds resistance killing resonant rise effect. If you add power source connection you kill resonance in between your pumping impulses due to long wires acting as transmission lines dissipating energy in form of radio or heat waves.It is the reason of propoer design of pulse transformers or the circuit HF can be easily seen on DC power lines (thuse some oscillators have a chokes on input power line).

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 17, 2014, 07:11:50 AM

Quote from: Reiyuki on May 16, 2014, 11:56:31 PM
Dave:

How about parallel resonance instead?

They say DC is unidirectional,
Iv been thinking about what that implies
Does it mean that pos is moving in one direction and neg is moving in the other, they meet at the resistance.
If so they meet at the inductor, but if a capacitor separates the polarity's then only pos or neg will run through the inductor (depending on the design) to reach the capacitor plate.
This is why I designed the circuit the way I did, if you notice only one polarity runs through the coil.
The pnp switches the pos side and the npn switches the neg side.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 17, 2014, 07:22:09 AM

Let me ask a question
Lets say the battery's are 12 volts, the capacitors across the battery will charge when the switch is not conducting and discharge when conducting, will they discharge 36 volts since there are 3 in parallel.

What would be the difference if there's only one cap across the bat with the same capacitance as all three.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 17, 2014, 07:38:21 AM

In this arrangement the cap will charge first because of the resistance of the inductor then when the magnetic field builds :-\
not sure

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on May 17, 2014, 08:30:39 AM

Quote from: forest on May 17, 2014, 04:43:22 AM
The problem with resonant circuit as I fight with is that only special ratio of inductance to resistance can allow energy accumulation or stable preservation in tank circuit.

Hi Forest :)
You mean that there is a special number or something like gold number e.t.c that specifies a ratio as right or wrong?

In the interview of tesla that you gave to us (thanks for this), speaks about this ratio, and also he had stated that he had an oscillator that was ringing even after three years!!! Was he speaking about this that you describe?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 17, 2014, 10:16:48 AM

A tank circuit destroys energy,
Pos and neg each occupy the plates out of phase when they meet they cancel each other, reactive power.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 17, 2014, 10:34:07 AM

Quote from: forest on May 17, 2014, 04:43:22 AM
The problem with resonant circuit as I fight with is that only special ratio of inductance to resistance can allow energy accumulation or stable preservation in tank circuit. Most of other are damped oscillations (ring down). If you connect any load it adds resistance killing resonant rise effect. If you add power source connection you kill resonance in between your pumping impulses due to long wires acting as transmission lines dissipating energy in form of radio or heat waves.It is the reason of propoer design of pulse transformers or the circuit HF can be easily seen on DC power lines (thuse some oscillators have a chokes on input power line).

Just a few observations -
Tito has often mentioned balance. I think this is something Dave's design ideas as of late tend to uphold. But more than that, if you read some of the successful Don Smith Device replications, balance is crucial to maintain resonance. Coils have to be either the same size, or if tuning to quarter wavelength of a larger coil, a smaller coil must have one-quarter the weight of the larger.

Another thing Tito has mentioned is the principle behind Tesla's Magnifying Transformer. What is it in the TMT that enables the system to keep ringing so that power can be drawn off? I think it's the relationship between a bifilar coil (series wound) and resonant coil. When the bifilar reaches resonance, is it the mutual cancellation of its fields that keeps its resonance from being affected by the resonant coil? Not sure, but again though, balance is important. If you want some interesting info on this, do a search for Don Smith TMT and see what you find. A claim of success with the DS device was made by stoker_x1 over the course of three or four pages beginning with this post: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-171.html#post193360 . Check out what he says about balance and resonance - absolutely crucial.
Bob

Edit: @Stupify, I slightly changed my post, and I guess you quoted me while I was making the changes. No big deal, just wanted to make what I said a little clearer. Same idea though. B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on May 17, 2014, 10:46:20 AM

This is the most interesting observation to pursue. How can we let the Resonance ring and drain power from it without disturbing the Resonance? That is the good question people should think carefully and wisely.

I think all of people still stuck with the Electromagnetic Induction, when Tesla already showed Electrostatic Induction. There is no such thing as losses or negative opposing factors when there is no RETURN PATH= Close circuit on the system of your device.

@Bob Smith well yes you need to balance and properly layerd wound Bifilar Coils to reach the Cancelling Effect of the Coils. The purpose of reaching the cancelling effect is to get the Result of the Electrostatic Induction because coils now are no more coils but function as capacitor.

P.S. All Tesla Transformer and TMT are the same schematic diagram and device but differs on its size. The way to not kill the Resonance is to extract the energy away from the Resonating Transformer- that is why you can always observe 2 bobbin on TK's device, you need to remotely extract the energy by using the Extra Tail- "Bird on the Line".. ;D ;D

Meow. 8)

Quote from: Bob Smith on May 17, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
Just a few observations -
Tito has often mentioned balance. I think this is something Dave's design ideas as of late tend to uphold. But more than that, if you read some of the successful Don Smith Device replications, balance is crucial to maintain resonance. Coils have to be either the same size, or if tuning to quarter wavelength of a larger coil, a smaller coil must have one-quarter the weight of the larger.

Another thing Tito has mentioned is the principle behind Tesla's Magnifying Transformer. What is it in the TMT that enables the system to keep ringing so that power can be drawn off? I think it's the relationship between a bifilar coil (series wound) and resonant coil. When the bifilar reaches resonance, will its cancelling fields not prevent the resonant coil from changing its resonance through a kind of secondary reflection? Again though, balance is important. If you want some interesting info on this, do a search for Don Smith TMT and see what you find. A claim of success with the DS device was made by stoker_x1 over the course of three or four pages beginning with this post: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-171.html#post193360 . Check out what he says about balance and resonance - absolutely crucial.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: From other Planet on May 17, 2014, 10:53:01 AM

another member here made 2 PDFs with stoker_x1´s posts on energeticforum and energyteamtalk forum, thanks again for uploading. I not know where his original post was so I put the PDFs as attachment here again.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on May 17, 2014, 11:05:08 AM

Quote from: stupify12 on May 17, 2014, 10:46:20 AM
This is the most interesting observation to pursue. How can we let the Resonance ring and drain power from it without disturbing the Resonance? That is the good question people should think carefully and wisely.

Parallel resonance seems to be good at 'ringing', sloshing power back and forth between capacitor and inductor.

Series resonance seems to be good at efficiently moving power across distance. (essentially a transmission line)

So, lets make a hypothetical circuit off that:
We create a parallel and series resonant circuit with inductors on a shared transformer core, then tune both to identical frequency (but 180deg phase shifted?). We then harvest some gain from the series capacitor.

It would be tricky because the load would affect inductance and frequency. But it does resemble several of Tesla's designs. Bifilar would be good because it would cancel/preserve inductance and provide some builtin capacitance at the same time.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 17, 2014, 11:56:38 AM

Jeg, Bob

I think stupify12 get it right. It can be called electrostatic induction, but for me the basic thing is oscillator ringing continously.
That't the same for sure - when you can arrange circuit to become free without loading resistance then it acts as electrostatic induction. Now I want you to find radiant energy patent by Tesla ,read it and then find patent GB11293 and compare last picture and read this patent to see what is electrostatic induction , what is radiant energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on May 17, 2014, 12:55:53 PM

Quote from: forest on May 17, 2014, 04:43:22 AM
The problem with resonant circuit as I fight with is that only special ratio of inductance to resistance can allow energy accumulation or stable preservation in tank circuit. Most of other are damped oscillations (ring down). If you connect any load it adds resistance killing resonant rise effect. If you add power source connection you kill resonance in between your pumping impulses due to long wires acting as transmission lines dissipating energy in form of radio or heat waves.It is the reason of propoer design of pulse transformers or the circuit HF can be easily seen on DC power lines (thuse some oscillators have a chokes on input power line).

Forest and Bob buddies
1, resonant circuit is not necessary, if you want keep a resonant wave, the aim is to reuse it to amplify the energy. otherwise just to collect the energy totally. for example, Bedini only use every input inpulse to amplify energy and then to collect the amplified energy, He nerver care about how long the ring wave last.
2, if you use a Tesla's resonant circuit to amplify energy, make the resistance as low as possible is oky, dont care about the rtio. As you want to reuse the resonant wave , so you only can take some energy for output at it's HV point. at this point ,any load can be use as you like.

Maybe Tesla coil is not easy to understand.

WEIZI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 17, 2014, 02:52:49 PM

Quote from: Reiyuki on May 17, 2014, 11:05:08 AM
Parallel resonance seems to be good at 'ringing', sloshing power back and forth between capacitor and inductor.

Series resonance seems to be good at efficiently moving power across distance. (essentially a transmission line)

So, lets make a hypothetical circuit off that:
We create a parallel and series resonant circuit with inductors on a shared transformer core, then tune both to identical frequency (but 180deg phase shifted?). We then harvest some gain from the series capacitor.

It would be tricky because the load would affect inductance and frequency. But it does resemble several of Tesla's designs. Bifilar would be good because it would cancel/preserve inductance and provide some builtin capacitance at the same time.

What if you took one of Dave45's recent diagrams and added an AV plug after his parallel capacitors, followed by 2 or 3 caps in series. Would this help?
Or wouldn't another way be to use of a strategically placed diode between parallel caps? Just trying to think outside the box.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 17, 2014, 10:10:52 PM

Quote from: weizisky on May 17, 2014, 12:55:53 PM
Forest and Bob buddies
1, resonant circuit is not necessary, if you want keep a resonant wave, the aim is to reuse it to amplify the energy. otherwise just to collect the energy totally. for example, Bedini only use every input inpulse to amplify energy and then to collect the amplified energy, He nerver care about how long the ring wave last.
2, if you use a Tesla's resonant circuit to amplify energy, make the resistance as low as possible is oky, dont care about the rtio. As you want to reuse the resonant wave , so you only can take some energy for output at it's HV point. at this point ,any load can be use as you like.

Maybe Tesla coil is not easy to understand.

WEIZI

@WEIZI: I'm researching as much as I can to try to understand your post. It will take me a little while... Meanwhile, I've found this article that has some related info at the end, but I need to read more. http://www.cd3wd.com/cd3wd_40/cd3wd/APPRTECH/PA03NE/EN/B1167_6.HTM
Any further links or info you can provide are appreciated.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 17, 2014, 10:16:04 PM

Thinking about the bifilar
not tested just musing

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 18, 2014, 11:12:11 AM

You see what their doing with the joule thief's dont ya
Their only kicking the pos back
You have to kick the neg back too.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on May 18, 2014, 12:27:19 PM

This is probably worth reading over a few times to grasp fully.

It's also worth mentioning on Tesla's diagram:
Primary and Secondary are wound in different directions. (Primary wound CW, secondary wound CCW)

The layout even resembles Akula's deconstructed coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 18, 2014, 02:07:36 PM

Look at this schematic the pnp switch is switching the pos rail into the inductor notice the freewheel diode coming off the rail its passing neg current through the diode.
The switch is pulsing the inductor with pos energy the bemf is neg.

If the switch and inductor were on the neg rail the bemf would be pos.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 18, 2014, 02:30:45 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 18, 2014, 11:12:11 AM
You see what their doing with the joule thief's dont ya
Their only kicking the pos back
You have to kick the neg back too.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 19, 2014, 10:28:31 PM

Could we get this to go into self oscillation.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 20, 2014, 09:17:33 AM

I believe we live on an electrostatic world
The combined particles make up the neutral layer we live in
In order to tap the aether we have to first separate the particles

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on May 20, 2014, 10:05:36 AM

Probably the little step improvements given by Kango Iida and Shkondin ,Lam Dat et al. helps !
Newest improvement entry :
http://www.lens.org/lens/patent/US_8514047_B2 (http://www.lens.org/lens/patent/US_8514047_B2) go to "Document Preview" and there to page 10

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on May 20, 2014, 10:31:26 AM

The question is f.e. :

a rotative power saver/amplifier also known as -roto(-r-)verter-
which is the highest efficiency yield ?

as comercial trial without success:
https://web.archive.org/web/20050602075000/http://www.trinitymotors.net/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20050602075000/http://www.trinitymotors.net/)

motor : highest efficiency ? www.Thor-power.com savings ?
with/-out gear ? www.inmotive.com savings ?
generator : highest efficiency ? www.Geminielectricmotor.com savings ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 21, 2014, 10:48:07 PM

I wonder if something in this guy's explanation can help us better understand what is the key component from Tesla's technology, which Tito says is common to his own setups:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT6MTNNIBMk&feature=player_detailpage#t=325
He uses a furnace ignition module, spark gap and two doorknob caps in series, one on each rail. There is symmetry and balance there. He seems to say that the cold electricity comes from the dielectric - the electrostatic environment?
Anyway, food for thought.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on May 22, 2014, 12:35:17 AM

Hello Everyone some Tesla Facebook picture uploads. I hope you will learn many from Tesla's pictures, wahahahaha LOL.

Tesla

QuoteThe first result was one of the experiments
which I at that time showed in a public lecture, motive
devices operated by merely connecting them to one terminal of
a source of oscillations -- a high frequency coil. I have often
been told that my most important results in invention was
the demonstration of the practicability of transmitting energy
over one wire; because, once we can transmit energy over one
wire we can use also the earth, for the earth is equivalent to
a large conductor -- a better conductor than copper wire.

Meow ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 22, 2014, 08:11:05 PM

Thank you Stupify, you friendly evil mad genius! ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on May 22, 2014, 09:49:22 PM

Tesla describe what is the purpose of Grounding/Earth. Please enjoy and learn from this Tesla Facebook Upload Pictures.

@Dave45 and Bob; I think you are looking for the best authority to describe about the separate charge. Tesla loved you guys so he help you answered those questions. :P :P

Meow. 8) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 24, 2014, 04:03:39 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=568iDYn8pjc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=568iDYn8pjc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9M__yYbsZ4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9M__yYbsZ4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayIyiVua8cY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayIyiVua8cY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AptxNrQpGA4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AptxNrQpGA4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kBCMEUuSNw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kBCMEUuSNw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU3cUssuz-U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU3cUssuz-U)
http://periodictable.com/Elements/090/index.html (http://periodictable.com/Elements/090/index.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2mJtONjE14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2mJtONjE14)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl5DiTPw3dk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYxlpeJEKmw
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A2oKmLUaX4BTAhAAiH6zRwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjAzbTFrBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDOQRjb2xvA3NnMwR2dGlkAw--?qid=20090102223049AAQ5zkf

Lets forget tesla
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 24, 2014, 04:09:08 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6UgV3gVmd0

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 24, 2014, 04:29:12 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 24, 2014, 04:03:39 AM
.

sorry double post

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on May 24, 2014, 05:14:32 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 24, 2014, 04:09:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6UgV3gVmd0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6UgV3gVmd0)

;D

Nice video Tolits.. I watch it up to end.. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 24, 2014, 10:32:03 AM

I can't help but wonder if this is why they made the Thor movies. Maybe they're a glimpse of the future source of power in Thorium.

I still prefer to search for Titonium. It even glows! ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on May 25, 2014, 04:31:12 AM

I think im going insane not bcoz of im always thinking ou but bcoz of my sister in law's insane attitude. >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 25, 2014, 05:22:09 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on May 24, 2014, 05:14:32 AM
Nice video Tolits.. I watch it up to end.. ;D

Oh! :o

I have lots of those actually. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqLwTI0D7e8

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 25, 2014, 05:26:08 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on May 24, 2014, 10:32:03 AM
I can't help but wonder if this is why they made the Thor movies. Maybe they're a glimpse of the future source of power in Thorium.

I still prefer to search for Titonium. It even glows! ;D ;D ;D

Well, Titonium is just like lighting up a candle, once you lighted it then the system will run forever.
simple and very easy to do even a five year old can do it. ;D

but in thorium we only need 8 grams to cover up a century of energy needs. and that's WOW :o

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 25, 2014, 05:29:54 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on May 25, 2014, 04:31:12 AM
I think im going insane not bcoz of im always thinking ou but bcoz of my sister in law's insane attitude. >:(

Just treat her nice always and give her surprise gifts. and she will love you promise! ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 25, 2014, 05:34:40 AM

I believe somebody got it now,
and i believe he is now becoming greedy and liar ;D

and prohibit himself talking about it already ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on May 25, 2014, 06:04:04 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 25, 2014, 05:29:54 AM

Just treat her nice always and give her surprise gifts. and she will love you promise! ;)

I think it wont work bcoz she is super maldita at sobrang taas ng tingin sa sarili feeling nya ay napakatalino nya ubod naman ng tanga lahat nalang ng ginagawa ko eh pinupuna tapos kung makapang asar eh tagos hanggang buto kaya ako bwisit na bwisit sa babaeng un. >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 25, 2014, 09:35:17 AM

Hi Kids :)
For your consideration:

QuoteThere were two layer windings. The inner layer was the standard Joule Thief wiring. The outer layer was similar except that the four wire endings were connected differently. Two pairs of continuous looped wires were produced. I could use that as two Secondary Limbs or I could connect them to produce one long Secondary Limb.

The Magic is to use the Joule Thief circuit as the Primary of the Transformer. The magnetic flux induced by the pulsing Joule Thief leads-out electron motion energy as predicted. Some of this lead-out energy is transmitted to the Secondary.

Thus we can demonstrate overunity easily with our two oscilloscopes. We only need to have a LCR circuit in the Secondary to demonstrate overunity. A COP > 10 was achieved. Much higher values were also possible with additional tuning.

We can thus lead-out as much energy as desired.
Source: http://www.overunity.com/8825/pulsed-dc-transformer-with-embedded-magnets/msg248749/#msg248749

QuoteThe outer layer was similar except that the four wire endings were connected differently. Two pairs of continuous looped wires were produced. I could use that as two Secondary Limbs or I could connect them to produce one long Secondary Limb.

Hmm. This sounds like series wound bifilar... heh heh.
So, if we had an antenna gathering electrostatic energy (like Moray might've done), dumping into a small capacitor, then discharging into a joule thief, stepped up with a resonant bifilar secondary... and perhaps added a pickup coil?

Now, I believe the windings on the primary, secondary and pickup have to be identical, in order that they resonate together.
For this to be really effective (according to Lawrence Tesung), we need to have the JT primary and secondary in resonance, producing a standing wave. But in the Don Smith device, which I believe may share similar elements to the Titonium :), we need to make sure that all 3 coils are identical so that they resonate together at the frequency applied.
That's all for me right now.
Bob, the Titonium hunter.

Edit: Not trying to get off-topic, just a further clarification on the above post and its quotes to improve device:

QuoteWe tried the three layer toroid. The first attempt was to put the Joule Thief at the lowest layer and two transformer type windings as two top layers. There were some improvements but the top most layer showed significant decrease in induced voltage.

We then put the Joule Thief as the middle layer. To our greatest delight, the Output shot up. The continuous Output Power was 56 watts. The steady AC Output Voltage was 14 Volts even though we varied the load â€" resistors and LEDs. The Input Power from the 1.1V AA battery was less than 0.4 watts. That gave us a COP of greater than 160.

It looked like we could get closer to resonance and extract much more lead-out energy with the new arrangement. In a few days, our Output Power increased from a few watts to over 50 watts. Our team is extremely optimistic in producing a 1KW lead-out energy device in the very near future. The following are a list of possible areas of further research.

1. Size of the Toroid â€" Bigger appears to be better.
2. Number of turns of wire in the Toroid â€" More appears to be better.
3. Core material of the Toroid â€" No concrete data to show direction yet.
4. The use of capacitors in the Joule Thief â€" appears to help
5. The transistors in the Joule Thief â€" the larger ones appear to help
6. The LCR circuit in the Primary of the Joule Thief â€" tuning helps
7. The LCR circuit in the Secondary of the Joule Thief â€" tuning helps
8. The LCR circuit in the Secondary of the Transformer â€" major factor
9. The number of turns of wire in the Secondary of the Transformer â€" important to connect the right way â€" mixing clockwise and anti-clockwise will lower output.
10. The use of thin copper wire appears to be much better than the lamp wire.
11. Use of Signal Generator instead of battery â€" can vary frequency.
12. The lower the frequency, the higher the lead-out energy (results so far).
13. Higher L and Higher C values appear to lead-out more energy.
14. The Pulsing can either be AC or Pulsed DC.
15. The present Joule Thief and Transformer arrangement appeared to have build-in feedback mechanism.
16. The Output is capable of recharging batteries now. We can already demonstrate Battery A recharging Battery B and vice versa. A few (6 LED lights) could be on all the time.
Source: http://www.overunity.com/8825/pulsed-dc-transformer-with-embedded-magnets/msg249150/#msg249150

Note: Tseung proposes air core as the optimum for desired effect.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 25, 2014, 09:44:41 AM

The joule thief is just a boost converter with a feedback winding to trigger the gate of the transistor
A boost and buck converter can be combined into a single circuit.
A boost converter boosts voltage at the expense of amperage.
A buck converter boosts amperage at the expense of voltage.

We have to have a power source, ie electrostatic generator - ion clouds
The ion clouds will dissipate if not contained and separated

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 25, 2014, 09:48:38 AM

Neg ions tend to rise, pos ions will move down, the configuration - orientation is critical.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 25, 2014, 10:14:28 AM

Dave - sorry, I guess I posted without seeing your posts after mine. I moved it back to the last as an Edit.
I'll ponder your circuits. I like where you're going.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 25, 2014, 10:30:58 AM

Its all related Bob, everything is relevant, its a puzzle we can put together. :)

Moray said its about the ions not the electron

The aether is in a neutral state - a combination of pos and neg ions.
When lightning strikes it has to ionize a path, think about that.
It has to split the aether into its two separate components to create a path, why, because the aether is a neutral dielectric when the two particles are combined.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 25, 2014, 06:44:07 PM

Perhaps another piece of the puzzle. If we can put together a feedback loop from the output, then we may be able to develop a self-runner. Here's something from Lawrence Tseung's JT setup - a variable resistor in parallel with LED feeding back to the input. I'm not saying it's the answer, but I think it's food for thought: http://www.overunity.com/8825/pulsed-dc-transformer-with-embedded-magnets/msg256147/#msg256147
Taking Mrs. Smith out for ice cream now. :-*
Bob
Edit: Back from ice cream. Interesting video on standing waves. 1st couple of minutes of most interest. Although in water, gives an analogous 3D sense of what's happening with EM standing waves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpEevfOU4Z8

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 25, 2014, 07:36:40 PM

Enjoy that ice cream :D

If a pnp transistor could be incorporated along with the npn the bemf from the pnp pulsed coil could be used to charge the battery.
Iv thought about it and tried to build it into a schematic but havent figured it out yet, Im sure there are some here that could do it if they put their mind to it.
Then you would basically have a buck and boost converter in the same circuit.

Something I should have known, I imagined a circuit thought about it for along time started putting it down in a schematic and found it was already in use, lol
I'll tell ya there aint much the folks before us didnt build.

I look and think about circuits in the electron flow view and argued the point here on this board but Im starting to see both are correct, I believe there are two flows of energy in a circuit pos and neg each flowing toward each other meeting at the resistance.

The buck and boost converters both show this to be true, it depends where the switch and coil are placed ether on the pos or neg leg of the circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 25, 2014, 08:19:44 PM

Ya got me thinking about it :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 25, 2014, 08:33:07 PM

Dave,
There used to be a guy who was setting up oscillator circuits using npn and pnp transistors. I looked for his YT channel for a long time, but couldn't find it.
A couple of thoughts about your charge separation proposals:

It occurred to me that within a single stranded coil, say on a hollow core... is not one end of the winding going to be north and more relatively positive than the other end (relatively negative and south)? If this is the case, could charge separation be just a matter of isolating each end of the coil - say the secondary on a HV transformer? I'm thinking specifically about the Tesla Hairpin Circuit. You've got a HV transformer, spark gap in parallel with secondary, then one cap in series on positive and one on negative leg. Finally, your light across the 2 legs is lit up brightly.

If you watch the video I posted a couple of pages back, the guy mentions the air around the hairpin circuit as "the dielectric." But is it not just the aether? And is not the oscillation and charge separation exciting the electrostatic environment (aether) to access its energy?

If you substite a cap for the spark gap and keep the inline caps, do you not have charging a cap in parallel, then discharging in series for charge separation?

Bob
PS Ice cream was good :)

Edit: from 2 pages back:

QuoteI wonder if something in this guy's explanation can help us better understand what is the key component from Tesla's technology, which Tito says is common to his own setups:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT6MTNNIBMk&feature=player_detailpage#t=325
He uses a furnace ignition module, spark gap and two doorknob caps in series, one on each rail. There is symmetry and balance there. He seems to say that the cold electricity comes from the dielectric - the electrostatic environment?
Anyway, food for thought.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on May 25, 2014, 08:35:36 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 24, 2014, 04:03:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=568iDYn8pjc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=568iDYn8pjc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9M__yYbsZ4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9M__yYbsZ4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayIyiVua8cY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayIyiVua8cY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AptxNrQpGA4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AptxNrQpGA4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kBCMEUuSNw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kBCMEUuSNw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU3cUssuz-U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU3cUssuz-U)
http://periodictable.com/Elements/090/index.html (http://periodictable.com/Elements/090/index.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2mJtONjE14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2mJtONjE14)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl5DiTPw3dk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl5DiTPw3dk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYxlpeJEKmw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYxlpeJEKmw)
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A2oKmLUaX4BTAhAAiH6zRwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjAzbTFrBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDOQRjb2xvA3NnMwR2dGlkAw--?qid=20090102223049AAQ5zkf (https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A2oKmLUaX4BTAhAAiH6zRwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjAzbTFrBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDOQRjb2xvA3NnMwR2dGlkAw--?qid=20090102223049AAQ5zkf)

Lets forget tesla
;D

YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS MAN.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 25, 2014, 09:59:02 PM

IST, innovationstation was playing with the pnp npn joule thief awhile back, he got really defensive wouldnt show circuits.

Maybe he found the answers ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 26, 2014, 09:15:26 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on May 25, 2014, 08:33:07 PM
Dave,
There used to be a guy who was setting up oscillator circuits using npn and pnp transistors. I looked for his YT channel for a long time, but couldn't find it.
A couple of thoughts about your charge separation proposals:

It occurred to me that within a single stranded coil, say on a hollow core... is not one end of the winding going to be north and more relatively positive than the other end (relatively negative and south)? If this is the case, could charge separation be just a matter of isolating each end of the coil - say the secondary on a HV transformer? I'm thinking specifically about the Tesla Hairpin Circuit. You've got a HV transformer, spark gap in parallel with secondary, then one cap in series on positive and one on negative leg. Finally, your light across the 2 legs is lit up brightly.

If you watch the video I posted a couple of pages back, the guy mentions the air around the hairpin circuit as "the dielectric." But is it not just the aether? And is not the oscillation and charge separation exciting the electrostatic environment (aether) to access its energy?

If you substite a cap for the spark gap and keep the inline caps, do you not have charging a cap in parallel, then discharging in series for charge separation?

Bob
PS Ice cream was good :)

Edit: from 2 pages back:

Interesting
Iv read some that say the energy we use to pulse a coil is not the energy we get back, the energy we get back comes from the environment, in other words all the energy we put into a transformer is used to pulse the transformer and the energy that comes out the other side is from the ambient.

Im not sure I agree with this but it is interesting to think about, I will rule out nothing until the answer is found.

I believe the magnetic field and electric field are two separate entity's for lack of a better word, if the energy we put into a coil only builds the magnetic part then the ambient must be furnishing the electric part.

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction

We need the reaction to be be greater than the action, for that to happen we need a source, we have to ionize the magnetic field.

When the sun releases a solar flare the earths magnetic field is ionized and becomes very energetic, if the earths magnetic field were to collapse after this ionization ,,,,,,,,,,, well it would not be pretty :(

The hairpin circuit seems to be pulling energy from the ambient but only equal to the transformer causing the displacement,

We can build an ionization circuit that takes milliamps to run, or they can be had already made in air purifiers and ozone generators.

I pick them up at thrift stores for cheap, cheaper than I can build them.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 26, 2014, 10:05:01 AM

Why does a cloud with ice have more lighting strikes than those that dont.

Iv played with the ice its a perfect dielectric, I believe the ice in the thunderstorm rises and falls cutting the magnetic field lines of the planet as this happens the ions are stripped from the magnetic field lines charging the water droplets.

Its storming here in Texas today,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 26, 2014, 10:40:30 AM

Rainy day :D
Baby sitting my three year old granddaughter :D
wished I were in my shop :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 26, 2014, 02:42:40 PM

in both example capacitor is shunt by dead load...can you explode when cotter is in place ? when you expect great explosion when you are tired of hard work ? ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 26, 2014, 11:25:01 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 26, 2014, 10:40:30 AM
Rainy day :D
Baby sitting my three year old granddaughter :D
wished I were in my shop :(

Hey Dave

I believe those 2 circuits operate the same. The switch and inductor position change as shown should still provide the same throughout both circuits.

Been thinking about what Teets said. Length of wire, not number of turns.

Saw a vid once, or a tv show that was talking about nano measurements. I believe she said 1 nano second for a signal to travel 8 or 9 in wire length. Otto wrote about cutting little bits off the end of a coil to tune. So if we just wind 500 turns on 2 separate but same cores, they may not really be the same as each other. Like if we tested the 2 coils in some idea we were working on, are we missing out on the goods by not fine tuning like Otto did?

Just got in from working on my shop. Been busy.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 27, 2014, 07:06:30 AM

Good to see your still around, Iv been moving my shop as well, what a chore.
I never thought one man could collect so much junk ;D
I collect every electronic part I can find tv's, monitors anything and everything but its getting ridiculous.

Its the polarity of the bemf that changes, pos for the boost circuit and neg for the buck.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 27, 2014, 08:43:22 AM

:) Both of these circuits are set up in buck mode but the principle is the same.
One has a pos bemf the other a neg.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 27, 2014, 08:56:30 AM

Overunity chip? with a little help :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIYyGeLl128 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIYyGeLl128)
http://cds.linear.com/docs/en/datasheet/3780ff.pdf (http://cds.linear.com/docs/en/datasheet/3780ff.pdf)

:-\ The ic shows to drive only one coil, for charge separation and magnetic field ionization we need two separate inductors. One driven in buck mode and one in boost mode.
If the polarity's are pulled of the same coil we have neutralization of the ions like in the static eliminator, the coils have to be separated.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on May 28, 2014, 01:44:47 AM

Dave thanks for the schematics and for your explanations!
Below is Dumas effect. Have you notice that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkk11hlTTMo&feature=youtu.be

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on May 28, 2014, 02:36:22 AM

Quote from: Jeg on May 28, 2014, 01:44:47 AM
Dave thanks for the schematics and for your explanations!
Below is Dumas effect. Have you notice that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkk11hlTTMo&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkk11hlTTMo&feature=youtu.be)

along with peter davey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTV85J2QHj0
and witts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZoiY3FvxKo

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 28, 2014, 07:04:40 AM

Quote from: d3x0r on May 28, 2014, 02:36:22 AM
along with peter davey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTV85J2QHj0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTV85J2QHj0)
and witts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZoiY3FvxKo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZoiY3FvxKo)

Quote from: Jeg on May 28, 2014, 01:44:47 AM
Dave thanks for the schematics and for your explanations!
Below is Dumas effect. Have you notice that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkk11hlTTMo&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkk11hlTTMo&feature=youtu.be)

Cool thanks for the head up :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on May 30, 2014, 10:38:16 PM

Thinking in pictures:

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 30, 2014, 11:20:12 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 27, 2014, 08:43:22 AM
:) Both of these circuits are set up in buck mode but the principle is the same.
One has a pos bemf the other a neg.

Hey Dave

have you built these circuits?

Try them on falstad's sim.. The diodes will only conduct in one direction. You seem to show that is not the case. Try it in sim. The 2 circuits are the same. ;) Not trying to burst bubbles. Ive just been through this many times.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on May 31, 2014, 04:10:39 AM

Quote from: Reiyuki on May 30, 2014, 10:38:16 PM
Thinking in pictures:

Nice point Reiyuki
I wouldn't use ground at pic no.2 Electrostatic induction would be stronger with out it.

Guys I need some help. Is there any way of burning the intrinsic diode of a TV hv flyback? I 'd like to use flyback to output negative pulses so I have to find a way to extract the built in diode first. If I burn it it will act as a short circuit and then I will put a reverse diode to make the job. What is your opinion?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on May 31, 2014, 04:27:41 AM

Electrons jiggling slowly down a conductor in the opposite direction to the charge flow can be considered to be "current". but so can the flow of anything be considered current. However the charge flows the other way and much faster (conventional current), the electron is simply a carrier of charge, the charge does the work and it flows the other way.

In reality none of it matters to a bulb connected across a battery, the potential will force charge to flow from positive to negative and the electrons will jiggle the other way. The bulb will light no matter what we say.

But if you put a diode in the circuit with the cathode towards the battery positive the bulb will not light. Hence charge flows from positive to negative, the electrons simply react to the charge flow caused by the potential applied.

Your electron current/jiggle will not light the bulb. Because the electrons will not do anything unless the charge flows from positive to negative.

There is not even any need to label the poles of a battery or DC supply "positive" and "negative". We only need label one the more positive or the other the more negative.

In reality to label the less positive pole negative it should be at a potential below 0 v, but there is no zero reference to a battery except the negative terminal, the negative terminal of a battery should be labeled 0 v. or something.

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on May 31, 2014, 04:35:54 AM

Has anyone replicated Lasersabre's "self looper" and had it run with at least a constant charge on the cap ?

To me it looks like the LED's are lit by transformer action or by the coil discharge or both, the secondary powers the led's with energy supplied by the cap. Where does electrostatics come into it ?

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on May 31, 2014, 05:30:58 AM

Farmhand the first pic. was taken from here

https://archive.org/stream/inventionsresear00martuoft#page/328/mode/2up

Read pages around page 335 and read the explanation on this diagram. It speaks about electrostatic induction and how this can be accomplished by an open end primary and asymmetrical topology between primary and secondary. (Using as generator a HV tesla coil )

Any ideas on burning the flywheel diode?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on May 31, 2014, 06:16:23 AM

This arrangement has the secondary bottom connected to the primary kinda like the first drawing, and the arrangement is not connected to anything, it takes in energy and lights the LED. The Tesla coil is nearby though. What is this then? Check the date. :) No capacitors no connections to anything else.

free standing coil powering LED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9AjFM5VB2c

This video should serve as a caution for others to wonder about low powered devices appearing to be OU.

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 31, 2014, 07:38:25 AM

Quote from: Farmhand on May 31, 2014, 04:27:41 AM
Electrons jiggling slowly down a conductor in the opposite direction to the charge flow can be considered to be "current". but so can the flow of anything be considered current. However the charge flows the other way and much faster (conventional current), the electron is simply a carrier of charge, the charge does the work and it flows the other way.

In reality none of it matters to a bulb connected across a battery, the potential will force charge to flow from positive to negative and the electrons will jiggle the other way. The bulb will light no matter what we say.

But if you put a diode in the circuit with the cathode towards the battery positive the bulb will not light. Hence charge flows from positive to negative, the electrons simply react to the charge flow caused by the potential applied.

Your electron current/jiggle will not light the bulb. Because the electrons will not do anything unless the charge flows from positive to negative.

There is not even any need to label the poles of a battery or DC supply "positive" and "negative". We only need label one the more positive or the other the more negative.

In reality to label the less positive pole negative it should be at a potential below 0 v, but there is no zero reference to a battery except the negative terminal, the negative terminal of a battery should be labeled 0 v. or something.

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Very nice description, and your right it doesnt really matter to a resistive load but it does matter to the inductor.

Mags
The boost converter and buck converter are well known and used in the electronics industry one boost voltage at the expense of amperage and the other boost amperage at the expense of voltage.

I have my own idea's about how they work and show them in my diagrams.
The sims are set up in the conventional view if you go to options and uncheck conventional view the sim will run in electron flow view.

I dont think any circuit by itself will go ou, it always pulls from the battery, you may boost voltage or amperage or both but you are always pulling from the bat.

We have to have a source other than the battery, whether it be radiation from radioisotopes or another form.

I believe ionization is the key, an ionization circuit builds a neg ion cloud around the pos electrode and a pos ion cloud around the neg electrode.
What I think happens in an ionization circuit, the electrodes cause a stress on the aether (the air) pulling the molecules apart into pos and neg particles, these particles can be collected using a magnetic field.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 31, 2014, 09:18:03 AM

Little side bar here. It looks like Larskro is using a zener in his circuit posted at this link (see bottom of schematic):
http://www.overunity.com/14665/selfcharging-cap-circuit-from-larskro-fake-or-real/msg404524/#msg404524
Can anyone tell me what purpose that serves? I'm wondering if it might shed light on why Teets chose a zener.
It appears that Larskro is looping back the inductive kickback from the collapsing mag field around the reed switch.
Does the zener help with this (and why/how)?
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on May 31, 2014, 09:22:37 AM

we can multiply our electricity
using multiple pulleys of varying sizes

Free Electricity is the most amazing Gift,
given by the God of the Bible
in Ezekiel 1:16

I would like this to be truly free energy
As in, free of any patent or copy write fees
so this can be freely used by all

Free Energy is such an obviously simplistic discovery,
- as well as being extremely free + easy to produce,
what is the only reason for us missing this basic idea,
- we have been dumb to this free energy technology .
This technology has been hidden for far too long,

Please, go to this website
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/
or search free-energy + yolasite

then you may want to try your hand at producing a digital prototype
on one of the many free electronic simulator software's out there,
that will help quick start the production of electric toys + tools,
and how about everything that runs on electricity, which is everything
being reproduced with GEM, free energy power supplies, built into them.

Let's restart our economies,
by building industries that reproduce all of our electronics,
so that they are all self powered. (non polluting)
= First though, is getting rid of all the gasoline motors in our motorized vehicles,
and putting a GEM in them.

how about using GEMs in our power stations
instead of waisting money burning gas
when we could be multiplying it for free
All we need to do, is have enough faith in His Word
to build these GEM (Good Electricity Multiplier) Miracle motor
or GEM = (God's Energy Miracle)

THIS DOES INDEED WORK
(think about how simple this is)
(you put power in to rotate one large pulley once)
(you run a belt to rotate mini-pulleys many time)
(then you could add many mini-pulleys)
(each one rotating hundreds of times)
(multiplying your AC electricity)
(YOU MUST GAIN FREE ENERGY)

LOGICAL REASONING
It takes little energy to turn a one foot circumference pulley,
which can be used to drive a belt that turns a mini pulley
of one inch circumference many times
This 12X you gain your AC energy from the many times the small pulley rotates,
or even more from the many generators on mini-pulleys you add (no torque)
you can twelve times the AC electricity with every extra generator attached
12X + 12X each starts to add up very quickly
all of these generators run almost free of any torque

I think that it sounds pretty obvious to me
you power a large pulley to rotate only the once (minimal)
and then you can get 2 or 4 mini-pulleys
to rotate many times = 10s to 100s of times
soooo,,,, INPUT = 1 rotation
OUTPUT = 400 rotations
(YOU MUST GAIN AC ELECTRICITY)

Why do you need more proof = prototype
this is extremely obvious that it should work

400 to 1 rotation multiplication = major amounts of AC electricity
come on guys + gals, this is so simple that it just has to work
you only put the small amount of energy to rotate a big pulley once
and you use pulleys to multiply your rotations many times
you could have ten mini-pulleys rotating hundreds of times
you simply must gain electricity

the torque would possibly be your only problem
and that would be minimal
if you only had a 12 inch circumference pulley
then you have 3 mini-pulleys
rotating 36 times for each one rotation of your large input pulley
YOU JUST HAVE TO MULTIPLY YOUR ELECTRICITY

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on May 31, 2014, 09:30:40 AM

Not again.

"why do you even need a prototype, when it's _obvious_ that it works? "

Not to anyone who has ever actually studied anything about lever arms, moments, torques and so on. A simple analysis that could be done by a clever high-school kid who paid attention in her pre-calculus class shows that your proposal is a non-starter.

You have made these claims before. They weren't true then and they still aren't true. If you think otherwise, get someone to bring you some parts and tools and build your own test system. When you can _demonstrate_ that your system can do what calculations say it cannot.... then maybe someone will pay attention to you and your overunity wheelchair. Until then, the math -- and all practical experience -- says you are wrong.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Paul-R on May 31, 2014, 09:48:59 AM

Quote from: that_prophet on May 31, 2014, 09:22:37 AM
we can multiply our electricity
using multiple pulleys of varying sizes

Free Electricity is the most amazing Gift,
given by the God of the Bible
in Ezekiel 1:16

Ezekiel 1:16 King James Version. The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.

An epicyclic gear train of some sort? An early Sturmey-Archer?

You should not be hijacking useful threads, particularly with crap like this.
.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 31, 2014, 10:14:07 AM

http://books.google.com/books?id=Er3i0Q5w53UC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=choosing+a+power+diode&source=bl&ots=s-eKO28nlK&sig=WJHILiN3LvgsYvg_VQo1ksH2qEA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=EsSJU4HIL4KaqAbS9oH4AQ&ved=0CF0Q6AEwBjgU#v=onepage&q=choosing%20a%20power%20diode&f=true

info on diodes, including zener's

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on May 31, 2014, 01:19:20 PM

it is simple
you put a small amount of power into a big pulley
which you only have to rotate once -(minimal power)
and you can rotate 10 mini pulleys 100s of times
YOU SIMPLY MUST GAIN AC ELECTRICITY

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 31, 2014, 01:27:18 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 31, 2014, 10:14:07 AM
http://books.google.com/books?id=Er3i0Q5w53UC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=choosing+a+power+diode&source=bl&ots=s-eKO28nlK&sig=WJHILiN3LvgsYvg_VQo1ksH2qEA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=EsSJU4HIL4KaqAbS9oH4AQ&ved=0CF0Q6AEwBjgU#v=onepage&q=choosing%20a%20power%20diode&f=true
info on diodes, including zener's

Thanks very much Dave. I read it a few times; it's quite rich. I'll keep it bookmarked.
Our Zener discussion really spilled out about 8 pages back, around here:
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/5700/#.U4n8krlOWpo
I've been reading back thru the posts.

Here's my basic sense of it in light of Larskro's schematic (& video) and what's been discussed here:

The zener allows the voltage to run normally in the circuit, but with the inductive kickback, allows the voltage to travel back in order to add power to the circuit.
Teets specifies the zener, and Weisisky noted that all that's needed is coils, triode (to pulse, I think) and a zener.
So you get the push-pull-push-puull from your voltage spike and kickback (or kick-kickback-kick-kickback-kick-kickback).
In this way, you loop the radiant energy kickback that comes back thru the zener into the initial circuit, ringing up your coil, producing a standing wave.
It's just a matter of picking it up. As Teets says, balance is key, because your resonant and pickup coils have to be balanced to resonate with the first coil.

I hope this helps with the discussion.
I still see room for the charge separation issue here, as we're using I think what Dave has referred to as FEMF and BEMF. I think it's a matter or pulling it all together.
GTG
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 31, 2014, 01:39:10 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on May 31, 2014, 07:38:25 AM
Very nice description, and your right it doesnt really matter to a resistive load but it does matter to the inductor.

Mags
The boost converter and buck converter are well known and used in the electronics industry one boost voltage at the expense of amperage and the other boost amperage at the expense of voltage.

I have my own idea's about how they work and show them in my diagrams.
The sims are set up in the conventional view if you go to options and uncheck conventional view the sim will run in electron flow view.

I dont think any circuit by itself will go ou, it always pulls from the battery, you may boost voltage or amperage or both but you are always pulling from the bat.

We have to have a source other than the battery, whether it be radiation from radioisotopes or another form.

I believe ionization is the key, an ionization circuit builds a neg ion cloud around the pos electrode and a pos ion cloud around the neg electrode.
What I think happens in an ionization circuit, the electrodes cause a stress on the aether (the air) pulling the molecules apart into pos and neg particles, these particles can be collected using a magnetic field.

Hey Dave

Here is a good book I own that you should buy. 'regulated power supplies' Irving M. Gottlieb

Also 'Simplified design of switching power supplies' John D. Lenk

Both are excellent reads. ;)

The position and orientation of your diode is mostly why the 2 circuits are the same. The changing of the power switch position makes no difference at all, as shown. Neither does the changing of the position of the inductor as you show. Series circuits such as these components(switch, inductor) are in, makes no difference in circuit operation when changing their positions as shown. ;)

There are also many sites on the basics of buck, boost, inverting circuits. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ALTECHLAB on May 31, 2014, 02:22:26 PM

Brazilian terra GEN by Barbarossa/Lea, Kapagen, self-support models...possible here in update and upgrade version: www.altechlaboratory.com
official test (DVPR, EFEMA) and re-engineering for mass production and installation.
Lab models and prototypes is available...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on May 31, 2014, 02:40:22 PM

ALTECHLAB, lets talk straight, do you have devices for sale that output more electrical energy
to a useful load than the energy that is input to said devices ?

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on May 31, 2014, 05:40:38 PM

Of course not.

QuoteAlTechLab is a very early-stage startup that is currently searching for seed funding for this particular project. AlTechLab has a history of project development utilizing 3D design and a rich electrical engineering talent base associated with plasma generation and plasma reactions. AlTechLab is currently seeking $52,700 in seed funding for the development of the proof-of-concept advanced charging system bench top prototype. Once successful, AlTechLab plans to raise an additional $320,000 in funding for a large demonstration prototype unit that can charge an electric vehicle.

Quote
AlTechLab TEAM Yuri Rybchenko - AlTechLab owner and team leader... more information by request:
www.altechlaboratory.com (http://www.altechlaboratory.com)
e-mail: altechlab1@gmail.com
Nick Moroz-Consultant, Ann Arbor, MI
Olek Alekseychenko - Sr.Developer from Yazaki Corp., Canton, MI, USA
Andrey Krischenovich - TET Lab owner and in depended developer from Ukraine

Keep your wallet firmly in your pocket.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 31, 2014, 06:37:39 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDCzrQHDf-o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDCzrQHDf-o)

I think this is what that-prophet is trying to point out. :D :D ;D ;D

Well, this is also possible, we are unlimited and we can make that weight into a very very high that could cover up 24 hours of free energy

and take note: make another two for back up. ;) ;)

For THAT-PROPHET NOW I BELIEVE YOU.!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( ;D ;D

otits
[size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on May 31, 2014, 07:36:32 PM

electricity can be multiplied
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

The workings are super simple
All you do is put the power in to rotate your DC motor one revolution
(extremely minimal power)
the 10cm circumference pulley is connected to a belt
this belt runs through 10 X 1cm circumference pulleys
each of these mini pulleys rotates 10 times
adding up to 10x10=100 rotations
each of these mini pulleys is attached to a motor (generator)

that equals 100 rotations of AC power
this AC electricity goes through a bridge rectifier
this power goes through a and voltage regulator
which you connect to your input DC motor
this makes it self sustaining
you have now created a self powered AC or DC power supply

this is sooooooooooooo simple
only evil forces could have kept this a secret
well,,,,,,,,,,, it is not a secret any more

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on May 31, 2014, 08:05:39 PM

Please look up the terms "torque", "moment arm", and learn how to calculate forces in rotating systems.

Also, do not make false claims. If you can demonstrate something working as you say, that is fine, and I encourage you to try. But for you to say what you are saying in your posts is not the case. You are making claims about a system you do not possess and which you clearly do not understand.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 01, 2014, 02:23:16 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 31, 2014, 06:37:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDCzrQHDf-o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDCzrQHDf-o)

I think this is what that-prophet is trying to point out. :D :D ;D ;D

Well, this is also possible, we are unlimited and we can make that weight into a very very high that could cover up 24 hours of free energy

and take note: make another two for back up. ;) ;)

For THAT-PROPHET NOW I BELIEVE YOU.!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( ;D ;D

otits
[size=78%] [/size]

That's a joke right ? Has that guy been living in isolation from common knowledge or something ? That setup is old hat, when the weight can jump up and attach itself to the cable I'll believe there is something free there.

It would take more energy to lift the weight up and attach it than the device would output, no more free energy than a pedal generator, seriously.

..

However if he does not pay for food then I guess it could be considered "free" of any payment but OU or over C.O.P=1.0 it is not.

Wow

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on June 01, 2014, 03:12:16 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 31, 2014, 06:37:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDCzrQHDf-o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDCzrQHDf-o)

I think this is what that-prophet is trying to point out. :D :D ;D ;D

Well, this is also possible, we are unlimited and we can make that weight into a very very high that could cover up 24 hours of free energy

and take note: make another two for back up. ;) ;)

For THAT-PROPHET NOW I BELIEVE YOU.!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( ;D ;D

otits
[size=78%] [/size]

I think clock makers would do it better. My parents have had a cuckoo clock for I dunno 30 years. It requires no energy, just daily have to pull the chains to reset the weights. It's probably 1 mouse power...

He didn't even have 1 horsepower, and so much lost in the gears that it didn't fall very fast at all...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 01, 2014, 05:00:15 AM

Quote from: Farmhand on June 01, 2014, 02:23:16 AM
That's a joke right ? Has that guy been living in isolation from common knowledge or something ? That setup is old hat, when the weight can jump up and attach itself to the cable I'll believe there is something free there.

It would take more energy to lift the weight up and attach it than the device would output, no more free energy than a pedal generator, seriously.

..

However if he does not pay for food then I guess it could be considered "free" of any payment but OU or over C.O.P=1.0 it is not.

Wow

everyone saw the video then nothing is wrong.
Don't judge buddy, everything is possible ok. :D

We can actually move up a heavy weight using gears without much using energy right?. chain block
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itQKDMND7hY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itQKDMND7hY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=980UZtrzuC8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT9IIE4xrBM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT9IIE4xrBM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAj_Q9dewF0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAj_Q9dewF0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFscvFfYuBQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFscvFfYuBQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF_jeCL7jEE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF_jeCL7jEE) ;D

and if we can put it one kilometer high, i think we have one month free of power or more right. ;D

now try to answer me why chain block become reality ?, see everything is possible. its just up to the design.

however ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 01, 2014, 05:32:59 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 01, 2014, 05:00:15 AM

everyone saw the video then nothing is wrong.
Don't judge buddy, everything is possible ok. :D

We can actually move up a heavy weight using gears without much using energy right?. chain block
and if we can put it one kilometer high, i think we have one month free of power or more right. ;D

now try to answer me why chain block become reality ?, see everything is possible. its just up to the design.

however ;D

So Very Wrong

It takes more energy to raise a weight by block and tackle than by doing it directly. The block and tackle takes less force to raise the weight but the trade off is you must apply the force for much longer.

Overall the amount of energy required to raise a weight using a block and tackle is a little bit more because the block and tackle introduces more friction. Even the rattling of the chain consumes energy!

No matter how you try to raise a weight (assuming a frictionless mechanism), it takes the same energy to raise a weight to the same height. Add in friction and other losses and some methods are more wasteful in raising a weight.

This is the reason why it is impossible for a gravity wheel to work, You CANNOT get more work out of a falling object then what you put into it to get it up there. I don't say this because I was told it, I say it because I have tested it extensively myself. Yes even skeptical me can't resist trying out things I think of.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 01, 2014, 05:38:49 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXmsu00sKcs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 01, 2014, 05:51:51 AM

okay ladies and gentlemen lets just do this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieFZI4-6K8

simple and very possible to do by everyone and its practical. ;)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 01, 2014, 05:52:36 AM

@forest

Well that was a wast of my time. Was that video meant to do anything apart from bore the hell out of me?

It did prove 2 things.

1/ He can talk a lot
2/ And you have to keep putting energy in to keep it going.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 01, 2014, 05:55:52 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 01, 2014, 05:51:51 AM
okay ladies and gentlemen lets just do this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieFZI4-6K8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieFZI4-6K8)

simple and very possible to do by everyone and its practical. ;)

;D

What are you trying to prove?

We have been using water power to make "free energy" for thousands of years. Unfortunately I do not have a stream in my backyard. Nor do a billions of other inhabitants of this planet.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 01, 2014, 06:04:37 AM

Quote from: CuriousChris on June 01, 2014, 05:55:52 AM
What are you trying to prove?

We have been using water power to make "free energy" for thousands of years. Unfortunately I do not have a stream in my backyard. Nor do a billions of other inhabitants of this planet.

what i'm trying to prove is even a simple people can do it their own!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 01, 2014, 06:07:34 AM

Quote from: CuriousChris on June 01, 2014, 05:32:59 AM
So Very Wrong

It takes more energy to raise a weight by block and tackle than by doing it directly. The block and tackle takes less force to raise the weight but the trade off is you must apply the force for much longer.

Overall the amount of energy required to raise a weight using a block and tackle is a little bit more because the block and tackle introduces more friction. Even the rattling of the chain consumes energy!

No matter how you try to raise a weight (assuming a frictionless mechanism), it takes the same energy to raise a weight to the same height. Add in friction and other losses and some methods are more wasteful in raising a weight.

This is the reason why it is impossible for a gravity wheel to work, You CANNOT get more work out of a falling object then what you put into it to get it up there. I don't say this because I was told it, I say it because I have tested it extensively myself. Yes even skeptical me can't resist trying out things I think of.

So very wrong! :o
whats wrong if we do it once a week lifting it by our own muscles,
The benefits are good body workout etc. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 01, 2014, 06:20:05 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 01, 2014, 06:07:34 AM

So very wrong! :o
whats wrong if we do it once a week lifting it by our own muscles,
The benefits are good body workout etc. ;D

Tell that to the 80 year old lady down the street, or doesn't she matter ?

To even charge a one 60 amp hour battery that weight would need to be lifted at least 50 maybe 100 times, in my opinion.

EDIT: We could calculate how long it would take to hit the ground by seeing how far it dropped during the video. I'm guessing a 1/2 hour drop time with about maybe 50 watts output if a car alternator was attached, providing he can even get the thing to spin fast enough for a car alternator. If he uses a modified or purpose built slow rev generator he would be better off building a wind powered generator.

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And the stream has 45 PSI pressure out a nozzle. I have a 10 000 liter rainwater tank (that's 10 000 kgs or 10 tons of water) about 10 feet off the ground and I can stop the flow from a 10 mm outlet with my finger. But it flows for free no pump.

I'm finding the 45 PSI difficult to believe.

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 01, 2014, 07:11:46 AM

Now to get 45 psi pressure head from a static water column we multiply 45 psi x 2.31 to get the required water column height of 104 feet. Although the stream is kinetic, still it seems odd. To get 45 psi he would need some kind of pressurizing setup I think. I would like to see how he gets the water from the stream to the nozzle outlet.

Now my tank has a water depth of about 5 feet so the head pressure is 5 / 2.31 = 2.1 psi which explains why I can stop it with my finger. :D

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 01, 2014, 09:08:00 AM

theory of operation

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 01, 2014, 09:50:45 AM

can we improve the buck converter

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 01, 2014, 10:36:48 AM

building a better mouse trap

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 01, 2014, 11:25:54 AM

thinking out loud - load :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on June 01, 2014, 11:59:41 AM

Quote from: Farmhand on June 01, 2014, 07:11:46 AM
Now to get 45 psi pressure head from a static water column we multiply 45 psi x 2.31 to get the required water column height of 104 feet. Although the stream is kinetic, still it seems odd. To get 45 psi he would need some kind of pressurizing setup I think. I would like to see how he gets the water from the stream to the nozzle outlet.

Now my tank has a water depth of about 5 feet so the head pressure is 5 / 2.31 = 2.1 psi which explains why I can stop it with my finger. :D

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Not that it will gain anything; but adding a hydrauling ram pump would get pressure... sacrificing a lot of flow to get it

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on June 01, 2014, 12:02:54 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on June 01, 2014, 11:25:54 AM
thinking out loud - load :D

then you're open to receiving comments from the loud peanut gallery.

It should be noted that when dave indicates red and black he's referring to two different currents... the electron flow doesn't reverse in a collapsing single field. It would be easier if he used a single notation to indicate either electron flow....

Again, a collapsing field doesn't reverse the current, so it must be that he's using two different notations for the same thing... to make it seem like it's reversed.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 01, 2014, 12:11:29 PM

Yeah a ram pump would work but the output would be surging I think. Going by the flow from his hose he has more pressure than the mains water pressure here.

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 01, 2014, 12:19:43 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on June 01, 2014, 12:02:54 PM
then you're open to receiving comments from the loud peanut gallery.

It should be noted that when dave indicates red and black he's referring to two different currents... the electron flow doesn't reverse in a collapsing single field. It would be easier if he used a single notation to indicate either electron flow....

Again, a collapsing field doesn't reverse the current, so it must be that he's using two different notations for the same thing... to make it seem like it's reversed.

Iv come to think of it more as pos and neg polarity's at play within the circuit.
They could be considered voltage and amperage I guess but pos and neg is more acceptable.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 01, 2014, 01:13:59 PM

Quote from: that_prophet on May 31, 2014, 01:19:20 PM
it is simple
you put a small amount of power into a big pulley
which you only have to rotate once -(minimal power)
and you can rotate 10 mini pulleys 100s of times
YOU SIMPLY MUST GAIN AC ELECTRICITY

WRONG. WRONG WRONG.

There is one one major factor you are forgetting. (I've done the experiment).
When you put ANY LOAD on any of your generators a PHYSICAL resistance to movement is created.

This will slow down the whole series of pulleys.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on June 01, 2014, 02:46:26 PM

Hi.
This guy {that_prophet} appears around this forum on numerous threads since several years already. I found that he/she presents lack of knowledge of basic principles of physics and also lack of understanding, stubbornly repeating his/her always the same idea. What more, that guy wants somebody to build a contraption based on this sick idea, probably because he/she is somewhat physically retarded; his/her behavior of stubborn recurrence without any sign of learning conclusions of such relatively simple idea shows also some mental retardation.
So, my conclusion is that any effort to convince this guy just to learn some basics is just IN VAIN, this guy is unable to digest that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on June 01, 2014, 04:11:47 PM

Quote from: Farmhand on June 01, 2014, 06:20:05 AM
Tell that to the 80 year old lady down the street, or doesn't she matter ?

To even charge a one 60 amp hour battery that weight would need to be lifted at least 50 maybe 100 times, in my opinion.

EDIT: We could calculate how long it would take to hit the ground by seeing how far it dropped during the video. I'm guessing a 1/2 hour drop time with about maybe 50 watts output if a car alternator was attached, providing he can even get the thing to spin fast enough for a car alternator. If he uses a modified or purpose built slow rev generator he would be better off building a wind powered generator.

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And the stream has 45 PSI pressure out a nozzle. I have a 10 000 liter rainwater tank (that's 10 000 kgs or 10 tons of water) about 10 feet off the ground and I can stop the flow from a 10 mm outlet with my finger. But it flows for free no pump.

I'm finding the 45 PSI difficult to believe.

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Come, let us calculate.

A 60 A-H battery, assumed to be 12 volts nominal? How many Joules of energy in there?
60 amps x 12 volts x 1 hour = 720 Watt-hours.
720 Watt-hours x 60 seconds/minute x 60 minutes/hour = 2,592,000 Watt-seconds or Joules.

Now let's imagine the 80 year old lady lifting 10 kilograms to a height of 10 meters.
The potential energy of a lifted mass is just mgh.
10 kg x 9.8 m/s² x 10 m = 980 Joules. Call it an even thousand, just to make the calculation easier.

Now, assuming 100 percent conversion efficiencies throughout the process, how many times must the little old lady recycle the weight lift in order to charge the battery?

Now we can see why minnie is always mocking those who expect miracle energy extraction by using gravity. Even if it could work from an unbalance of forces viewpoint ... you need a second miracle even greater than the first in order to get some usable power out of even a gigantic gravity wheel.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: minnie on June 01, 2014, 05:41:20 PM

Yes Koala, after all that work I'll bet she would use her battery very carefully,she wouldn't
be the one who left her light on unnecessarily!
John.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 01, 2014, 06:20:32 PM

QuoteNikola Tesla 07/10/1932
"Tesla Cosmic Ray Motor May Transmit Power 'Round Earth", by John A.
O'NEILL for Brooklin Eagle
"I have harnessed the cosmic rays and caused them to operate a motive device", declared Nikola Tesla, famous scientist, in an interview last evening on the eve of his 76th birthday. "Cosmic ray investigation is a subject that is very close to me. I was the first to discover these rays and I naturally feel toward them as I would toward my own flesh and blood.", said Dr. Tesla. ... Dr. Tesla stated that the amount of power he was able to develop in the device was insignificant. I asked him if its power output was of the same magnitude as that of Crookes' radiometer, the device with four vanes in a glass tube that are rotated by sunlight, and which is often seen in jewelers' windows. He stated that the power output was many thousand times that of a Crookes' radiometer. "The attractive feature of the cosmic rays is their constancy. They shower down on us throughout the whole 24 hours, and if a plant is developed to use their power it will not require devices for storing energy as would be necessary with devices using wind, tide or sunlight. All of my investigations seem to point to the conclusion that they are small particles, each carrying so small a charge that we are justified in calling them neutrons. They move with great velocity, exceeding that of light. More than 25 years ago I began my efforts to harness the cosmic rays and I can now state that I have succeeded in operating a motive device by means of them." I was able to prevail upon Dr. Tesla to give me some idea of the principle upon which his cosmic ray motor works. "I will tell you in the most general way", he said. "The cosmic ray ionizes the air, setting free many charges – ions and electrons. These charges are captured in a condenser which is made to discharge through the circuit of the motor."

Looks like Tesla did tap the aether - after its broke into pos and neg charges ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 01, 2014, 09:44:33 PM

Going by Tinsels figures (Thanks Tinsel), we can see that to get the 2,592,000 joules a person would need to raise a
total of 25,920 kilograms to 10 meters, that's almost 26 tons lifted to 10 meters. Or raise 10 kgs 2592 times.

Now take a 100 Watt solar panel producing say 90 watts for 10 hours and we get 900 watt hours x 60 = 54,000 Watt minutes x 60 = 3,240,000 watt seconds or joules. That's 648,000 joules more than lifting 26 tons to 10 meters.

A definite lack of foresight. Better keep the kiddies away from those chains and cogs for if a hand got caught in there it would come out the other side if it stayed attached that is.

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If we look at all the parts involved several bike chains and wheels as well as what looks like crank cogs, and cable ect. He could have bought a solar panel or small wind powered generator.

Now people might say the solar panel only works when the sun shines and the wind turbine only works when the wind blows but the gravity setup only works if you lift the weight up, a car only runs when you put fuel in it, your body only works when you put food in it.

It's simple to get output there must be input energy, we cannot make or amplify or multiply energy, saying so is like saying you are God and can create stuff from nothing.

We can use a small amount of energy to harness a larger amount though. If you live on a 100 meter high cliff or something and there are rocks up there with you already then you could put rocks in a basket or bucket and use the fall of the rocks via a cable and pulleys/ cogs to harness the potential energy of the rocks up high. It would take little effort to load the basket and more would be gained by allowing them to fall 100 meters after lifting them less than 1 meter. Eventually you would run out of rocks, unless it rains rocks in that area and in that case I would run far and fast or be killed by rock rain.

A similar thing could be done with water or other things.

If you live on a hill and drive a car up the hill to get home then when you leave you could allow the weight of the car to lift a weight on a device while the car rolls down the hill by using a cable and pulley, potentially very dangerous though.

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 01, 2014, 11:24:14 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 04, 2012, 08:17:08 PM
Study the A.C electricity, there are two kicks happening in there ok ;)
"FREE ENERGY IS A CONTINUOUS EFFECT"

Quoteonly one component that we don't need anymore in this design and that is the "reed switch"
i'm only using this read switch when i'm using batteries. :)
and instead of read switch why not use transistor ok?. :)
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg347132/#msg347132

Quotehi everyone good day
i focused my self on energy amplification because i believe that the real secret of our previous scientist and inventors is on how to amplify a small energy. tesla, moray, habbard, hendershot, bearden, bedini.
like for example the tesla's radiant energy that was not patented without something in it ok its not weak, WE CAN AMPLIFY IT OK. 8)
The secret is boldly discussed in this forum already its so very easy you have to notice it.
A COIL THAT MAKES A BIG KICK WITHOUT USING ANY CURRENT!
AND WE CAN MAKE UNLIMITTED NUMBERS OF THEM OK!
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg201238/#msg201238

QuoteARE YOU ONLY USING 2-3 COILS? : its up to your design, the manyer the coil, the bigger capacity you can
produced ok.
HOW ARE THEY WOUND? : opcourse bifillar is still the best plus the magic coil that makes the big kick just include it
in the bifillar to fill the collector fully charge in energy ok.
HOW ARE YOU DRIVING IT?: well, just a matter of on and off ok. thats how simple it is.
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg201243/#msg201243

;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 02, 2014, 12:53:52 AM

Quote from: Farmhand on June 01, 2014, 06:20:05 AM
Tell that to the 80 year old lady down the street, or doesn't she matter ?

Well, :D :D :D

in that case i agree with you bwahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhaahaha ;D ;D ;D ;D

you made me laugh :D :D :D

and because of that here is my important tip: There should be two caps, the collector caps should be big microfarad and acting as the battery and 2nd caps should be at least 5-11 microfarad and acting as the running capacitor and serve as a protector kunsintindor. ;D
The running capacitor should discharge fully when discharge and charge fast when charging when there is saging ang matsing ok?. ;) 8) :) ;D
That is to get the real kick of induction in question de cunsumission! :o ??? ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on June 02, 2014, 05:05:51 AM

Greetings buddies :) Was playing with falstad and forward/backward EMF

http://www.overunity.com/14134/forward-emf-collection/msg404911/#msg404911 (and the message above has other notes)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 02, 2014, 07:16:30 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 01, 2014, 06:07:34 AM

So very wrong! :o
whats wrong if we do it once a week lifting it by our own muscles,
The benefits are good body workout etc. ;D

Once a week? Yeah right. You really need to learn to understand what you are talking about before putting your foot into it

Lets do some simple math shall we?

How much weight would you need to lift to power the average household for a day?

If you use on average 18Kwh of electricity per day (fairly typical) that's less than 1kwh per hour (if you use a clothes drier and electric hot water it will probably be greater).

That comes out to 64Mj of energy (per day)

Now a 1 kg weight has about 9.82j of potential energy when lifted 1 metre (m*g*h = 1kg*9.82m/s*1m)

Simple math shows that you would need to raise 6.5Ktonne 1 metre to supply a days worth of power, assuming a 100% efficient conversion of potential energy to electricity.

That may astound you ( I was surprised myself ) but remember the higher the weight the more potential energy it has so we can reduce the weight by increasing the height.

But this tradeoff doesn't mean you can use less energy by lifting it higher, we use exactly the same amount.

So how high would I have to lift 1Kg weight for it to have enough kinetic energy to power a house for a day?

The formula is the same as above, we just change a couple of things. j=m*g*h
To calculate for height we change it to h = j / (m*g) = 64Mj/(1kg*9.82) = ~6,500,000M or 6,500Km

Of course its much harder in the REAL WORLD were I live, in your world I am sure this is a trifling problem.

I have attached an excel spreadsheet for you to play with.

Now I will leave it to you how high or how much weight you need to lift to supply your weeks worth of energy.

NOW HERE IS THE REAL LESSON SO DON"T IGNORE IT>>>>

Do Not Trust what I have said above. FIND OUT YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to shout but this is the most frustrating thing of all. People on this forum DO NOT THINK for themselves they hear someone sprouting absolute BS (like solar panels suck energy from the sun) and stupidly do not question it.

QUESTION EVERYTHING!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 02, 2014, 09:47:57 AM

Quote from: d3x0r on June 02, 2014, 05:05:51 AM
Greetings buddies :) Was playing with falstad and forward/backward EMF

http://www.overunity.com/14134/forward-emf-collection/msg404911/#msg404911 (http://www.overunity.com/14134/forward-emf-collection/msg404911/#msg404911) (and the message above has other notes)

Hey
Interesting circuit, I wanted to see if the circuits would link up, placed a led between the two recovery caps and it will link.
Keep us informed,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on June 02, 2014, 11:23:14 AM

quote:
"There should be two caps, the collector caps should be big microfarad and acting as the battery and 2nd caps should be at least 5-11 microfarad and acting as the running capacitor and serve as a protector kunsintindor. (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
The running capacitor should discharge fully when discharge and charge fast when charging when there is saging ang matsing ok?.
That is to get the real kick of induction in question de cunsumission!"

end quote.

Tito: Thanks for the tip. But, what is saging ang matsing, Ok?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on June 02, 2014, 03:38:27 PM

oh yah, it takes soooo much torque to turn a 100 cm circumference pulley
+ three 10 cm circumference pulleys

this works, please build it
it is so simple to build
we can change the world
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

this is a Gift from our Father in Heaven
Please take Jesus into your heart and become Born Again NOW
(the generation that shall not pass, will pass before 2020)
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Quote from: TinselKoala on May 31, 2014, 09:30:40 AM
Not again.

"why do you even need a prototype, when it's _obvious_ that it works? "

Not to anyone who has ever actually studied anything about lever arms, moments, torques and so on. A simple analysis that could be done by a clever high-school kid who paid attention in her pre-calculus class shows that your proposal is a non-starter.

You have made these claims before. They weren't true then and they still aren't true. If you think otherwise, get someone to bring you some parts and tools and build your own test system. When you can _demonstrate_ that your system can do what calculations say it cannot.... then maybe someone will pay attention to you and your overunity wheelchair. Until then, the math -- and all practical experience -- says you are wrong.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on June 02, 2014, 04:25:48 PM

You are wrong and when you say "this works" you are lying, because it doesn't. There is ONE WAY for you to prove otherwise: BUILD IT YOURSELF AND PROVE ME WRONG.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 02, 2014, 07:16:36 PM

Quote from: CuriousChris on June 02, 2014, 07:16:30 AM
Once a week? Yeah right. You really need to learn to understand what you are talking about before putting your foot into it

Lets do some simple math shall we?

How much weight would you need to lift to power the average household for a day?

If you use on average 18Kwh of electricity per day (fairly typical) that's less than 1kwh per hour (if you use a clothes drier and electric hot water it will probably be greater).

That comes out to 64Mj of energy (per day)

Now a 1 kg weight has about 9.82j of potential energy when lifted 1 metre (m*g*h = 1kg*9.82m/s*1m)

Simple math shows that you would need to raise 6.5Ktonne 1 metre to supply a days worth of power, assuming a 100% efficient conversion of potential energy to electricity.

That may astound you ( I was surprised myself ) but remember the higher the weight the more potential energy it has so we can reduce the weight by increasing the height.

But this tradeoff doesn't mean you can use less energy by lifting it higher, we use exactly the same amount.

So how high would I have to lift 1Kg weight for it to have enough kinetic energy to power a house for a day?

The formula is the same as above, we just change a couple of things. j=m*g*h
To calculate for height we change it to h = j / (m*g) = 64Mj/(1kg*9.82) = ~6,500,000M or 6,500Km

Of course its much harder in the REAL WORLD were I live, in your world I am sure this is a trifling problem.

I have attached an excel spreadsheet for you to play with.

Now I will leave it to you how high or how much weight you need to lift to supply your weeks worth of energy.

NOW HERE IS THE REAL LESSON SO DON"T IGNORE IT>>>>

Do Not Trust what I have said above. FIND OUT YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to shout but this is the most frustrating thing of all. People on this forum DO NOT THINK for themselves they hear someone sprouting absolute BS (like solar panels suck energy from the sun) and stupidly do not question it.

QUESTION EVERYTHING!

;D
hey buddy, many times there are many computations that don't conform with the actual things ok.
so don't be so sure to what you are computing.
co'z I experienced that already.
if you only knew that we don't actually need weight to power up a house.

WE ONLY NEED SIGNALS TO POWER UP A HOUSE OR A 1.5 BATTERY OR A 12V BATTERY OR A 9V BATTERY etc!.
OFF COURSE YOU WON'T BELIEVE ME CO'Z YOU WANT PROOF ISN'T IT. :D

BUT IF YOU WILL JUST ANALYZE WHAT TESLA SAYS ABOUT 10 WATTS OF CAPACITOR ENERGY IT IS UNLIMITED
IF YOU ONLY KNEW THE RIGHT ARRANGEMENT. :)

AND IN THAT SENSE THAT MEANS TESLA IS ALSO TALKING BS ISN'T IT? :-\
YOU TRUST WHAT I HAVE SAID ABOVE. FIND OUT YOURSELF!!!!! >:(

most of the people in this forum believe that they know something deeper than others but they don't know they are just at the first level. :P

WELL, I'M SHOUTING AND I MEAN IT!!!. >:( >:( >:(

solar sucking energy from the sun?, Well in that case its just depends to others understanding and knowledge about the solar action.
well, if we will just analyze it, most of our energy comes from the sun and the sun freely gives it, activating everything.
for unknowlegeable people yes they think that solar sucks energy from the sun.
and for me i understand them co'z we all past in that level. :)
and if you don't understand them, you are not very far from them. right?, yes right buddy. ;D

i don't want to quarrel with you buddy, just answering. ;)
and I understand you also. :D
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 02, 2014, 08:37:36 PM

The Tesla Quote below explains his words if you read it.

To put it simply.

Power = Rate of energy delivery.
Energy = Energy
Activity = Oscillating energy.
Rate of Activity = Oscillating Power.

If we apply 240 v DC to a 1000 Ohm resistive load for 1 second we deliver energy at a rate of 57.6 Watts and also deliver 57.6 Joules of energy.

If we take the same 57.6 Joules of energy in a 1.152 Microfarad capacitor, the capacitor would be charged at 10,000 volts, then if we discharge that capacitor into the same 1000 Ohm resistive load we deliver the 57.6 Joules of energy for a small amount of time at a rate of just under 100,000 Watts. Big power difference (Rate of energy delivery) but same energy (amount of energy), get it.

If we discharge the capacitor into an Inductive and capacitive load we get the same (or a bit less) 57.6 Joules of energy initially oscillating at a rate of power determined by the L/C/R, Which is activity. If the L/C and R Are small the rate of Activity (oscillating power) can be enormous, but the oscillating energy is only 57.6 Joules or less as it dissipates in the resistive portion of the LCR and radiates energy the oscillating energy is lost.

Power is not Energy
..

Source of Information
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm

QuoteCounsel

Speaking of your not having perfectly undamped waves at that time, you were referring to that character of circuit?

Tesla

Yes, but with another kind of circuit I could, of course. The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in the technical papers. I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.

I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive.

A common experiment, for instance, in my laboratory on Houston Street, was to pass through a coil energy at a rate of several thousand horsepower, put a piece of thick tinfoil on a stick, and approach it to that coil. The tinfoil would melt, and would not only melt, but while it was still in that form, it would be evaporated and the whole process took place in so small an interval of time that it was like a cannon shot. Instantly I put it there, there was an explosion. That was a striking experiment. It simply showed the power of the condenser, and at that time I was so reckless that in order to demonstrate to my visitors that my theories were correct, I would stick my head into that coil and I was not hurt; but, I would not do it now.

...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 02, 2014, 09:39:00 PM

Counsel

Speaking of your not having perfectly undamped waves at that time, you were referring to that character of circuit?

Tesla

Yes, but with another kind of circuit I could, of course. The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in the technical papers. I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.

I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take theenergy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive.

A common experiment, for instance, in my laboratory on Houston Street, was to pass through a coil energy at a rate of several thousand horsepower, put a piece of thick tinfoil on a stick, and approach it to that coil. The tinfoil would melt, and would not only melt, but while it was still in that form, it would be evaporated and the whole process took place in so small an interval of time that it was like a cannon shot. Instantly I put it there, there was an explosion. That was a striking experiment. It simply showed the power of the condenser, and at that time I was so reckless that in order to demonstrate to my visitors that my theories were correct, I would stick my head into that coil and I was not hurt; but, I would not do it now.

POWER IS CAPABLE TO MAKE ENERGY.

POWER IS LIKE MONEY, MONEY IS NOT ENERGY BUT IT HAS POWER TO MAKE SOMEONE MOVE. ;D

POWER IS ALSO LIKE GASOLINE OR DIESEL, THEY ARE NOT ENERGY BUT THEY ARE CAPABLE TO MAKE EXPLOSION WHEREVER YOU WANT AND CREATE ENERGY.

ELECTRICITY IS NOT ENERGY BUT IT IS A MOVEMENT OF ELECTRONS, AND AS THEY MOVE, ENERGY IS DONE. :)
EVERY SINGLE ELECTRON HAS ITS OWN MAGNETIC PROPERTIES LIKE A MAGNET
VOLTAGE IS AN OPEN HIGHWAY FOR AN ELECTRON TO MOVE AND AS THEY MOVE THEY BUILD ENERGY.

ENERGY THEREFORE IS THE MOVEMENT OF SOMETHING INTENDED BY SOMETHING OR SOMEONE. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 02, 2014, 09:42:53 PM

Quote from: that_prophet on June 02, 2014, 03:38:27 PM
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The problem is not in turning the pulleys. The problem is that once you put a load on a generator, a force opposite to the electrical energy you take is created which slows the whole pulley assembly down. So any electrical output results in physical braking of the device. The volts may be there but you cannot extract the power for free.
If you put a 100 watt bulb on the generator, a hundred watts (at least) is created in opposing torque.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 02, 2014, 09:47:40 PM

Tito: That's better.
Now, how about some real clues....

Please......

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 02, 2014, 10:22:24 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on June 02, 2014, 09:47:40 PM
Tito: That's better.
Now, how about some real clues....

Please......

OK, We don't actually need spark to the real thing , and to eliminate it, we should be working in low voltage and since electricity is symetrical we divert it to make it safe but we transfer a lot.

let say for example: to control the movement of a very high speed ball bearing is to place it in a circle path way as its speeds diminish little by little and that is the principle of yin and yang.

long time ago we need a spark and a spark gap but its not actually a good idea.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on June 02, 2014, 11:20:08 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 02, 2014, 10:22:24 PM

OK, We don't actually need spark to the real thing , and to eliminate it, we should be working in low voltage and since electricity is symetrical we divert it to make it safe but we transfer a lot.

let say for example: to control the movement of a very high speed ball bearing is to place it in a circle path way as its speeds diminish little by little and that is the principle of yin and yang.

long time ago we need a spark and a spark gap but its not actually a good idea.

Change spark gap with Transistor, and i thought you have said those many-time, what you didn't say is "Congratulation, you have found jt".

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 02, 2014, 11:57:23 PM

Quote from: Marsing on June 02, 2014, 11:20:08 PM
Change spark gap with Transistor, and i thought you have said those many-time, what you didn't say is "Congratulation, you have found jt".

Yes, we could do it in high voltage but i am making everyone to go into a path of safe.

but if you feel you are tesla like then proceed to 50,000 volts design its okay but its dangerous. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 03, 2014, 02:31:06 AM

Tito is right, Farmhand not :P

Theoretically it's easy as 1 2 3... you charge a cap and discharge into low resistance low impedance coil and that's all.. think about the results. Practically you need to be electronic "magic man" to not burn every kind of switching devices :'( :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 03, 2014, 06:47:35 AM

Quote from: forest on June 03, 2014, 02:31:06 AM
Tito is right, Farmhand not :P

Theoretically it's easy as 1 2 3... you charge a cap and discharge into low resistance low impedance coil and that's all.. think about the results. Practically you need to be electronic "magic man" to not burn every kind of switching devices :'( :'(

HOWEVER TESLA HAS A SOLUTION INTO A VERY HIGH VOLTAGE FREE ENERGY.
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE HIS MAGNIFYING TRANSMITTER. FROM SMALL ENERGY IN THE AIR THEN MAGNIFIED GOING TO EARTH.
ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS JUST AN ISOLATED SECONDARY TRANSFORMER TO GET FREE LUNCH. :)
ITS JUST A TRANSFORMER, THAT'S WHY IT CAN LAST UP TO 30 YEARS. ;) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on June 03, 2014, 07:41:11 AM

Tito is extremely confused. Is it a language problem?

QuotePOWER IS CAPABLE TO MAKE ENERGY.

POWER IS LIKE MONEY, MONEY IS NOT ENERGY BUT IT HAS POWER TO MAKE SOMEONE MOVE. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fgrin.gif&hash=48cd3b652a891d74b4b4ef746db528263b551e0c)

POWER IS ALSO LIKE GASOLINE OR DIESEL, THEY ARE NOT ENERGY BUT THEY ARE CAPABLE TO MAKE EXPLOSION WHEREVER YOU WANT AND CREATE ENERGY.

ELECTRICITY IS NOT ENERGY BUT IT IS A MOVEMENT OF ELECTRONS, AND AS THEY MOVE, ENERGY IS DONE. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fsmiley.gif&hash=f8f8faa5737a843fa5f3e4af986c18073b26d5a4)
EVERY SINGLE ELECTRON HAS ITS OWN MAGNETIC PROPERTIES LIKE A MAGNET
VOLTAGE IS AN OPEN HIGHWAY FOR AN ELECTRON TO MOVE AND AS THEY MOVE THEY BUILD ENERGY.

ENERGY THEREFORE IS THE MOVEMENT OF SOMETHING INTENDED BY SOMETHING OR SOMEONE. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fsmiley.gif&hash=f8f8faa5737a843fa5f3e4af986c18073b26d5a4)

Tito, do you understand the difference between a "kilometer" and a "kilometer per hour" ? The first is a quantity, the second is a RATE.

POWER is the RATE at which units of "energy" pass your measurement point. What are the units of energy? Joules. What are the units of power? Watts. One Watt is one Joule per second. Power is the RATE at which units of energy pass your measurement point.

Voltage is "charge pressure". It arises from the mutual repulsion of like electrical charges, generally the negative unit charge possessed by the electron. It is not an "open highway" in any sense of the term. It's more like a crowded cell in a gaol: the more people you stuff in there the harder they want to escape and the more ENERGETICALLY they will run away.... and the more energy it will take for you to stuff another one or ten criminals (electrons) into your room (capacitor bank). If anything is an "open highway", it must be a conductive pathway for the criminals to travel down to a place that is less crowded (at lower potential, ie voltage). From this you should be able to see that VOLTAGE is RELATIVE. You can have extremely high voltages with respect to ground, but you can safely touch these voltages if you are at the same potential level yourself without a path to a lower potential. From a cosmic viewpoint the Earth could be highly charged, positive or negative, and we would never know it because we share the same potential as the planet.

Gasoline, etc. and the explosions from it do not "create energy". Chemical energy is stored in molecular bonds and certain chemical reactions liberate this energy as heat. Lots of heat released in a short amount of time causes rapid expansion of gases, breaks things and makes big noise. This is NOT CREATION OF ENERGY.

Your shouted pronouncements are all generally similarly wrong, and shouting them louder doesn't make them right. You may have an audience, but I think that most of them are just there for the lulz, as you can be very humorous with your sillynesses. You do dispense the occasional nugget of truth that you have cribbed from people like Tesla, but it's nothing that isn't already known. For example, you are currently converging on the Slayer Exciter type of solid-state Tesla coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 03, 2014, 08:06:34 AM

Tito and others...

Farmhand is absolutely correct. Power is not energy, Power is a measure of energy over time.

I now better understand the reason why you seem so confused. Tesla is being taken out of context (probably turning in his grave)

I'll see if I can help you understand the relationship between energy and power

Power is measured in amongst other things as Watts
Energy is measured in amongst other things as joules
Time is measured for our purpose in seconds

1 Watt (power) = 1 joule (energy) for 1 second (time).

Therefore 2 watts is equal to 2 joules for 1 second.
But 2 watts is also equal to 1 joule for 2 seconds.

Think about that for a moment....

We often talk about power in watt hours or kilowatt hours, referring to my previous post I stated that a house can use 18Kwh of energy in a day.

That means 18,000 watts continuously for 1 hour. I know that seems confusing but what we do when making these measurements is compress it all down into an hour purely for convenience sake.

In reality what it means is the house will consume on average 750 watts every hour for 24 hours, now because watts is a measure of energy over time we can also say, every hour we use 750 * 3600s of energy or 2.7Mjoules of energy.

That's why I was able to say an average house (18kwh) will consume 64.8Mjoules of energy in one day, 2.7Mj * 24 = 64.8Mj

Ok I hope you can follow that because now we get interesting and we also get to the source of your confusion.

If we go back to 1w = 1j for 1s how many watts of power do we consume if we halve the amount of time?

the formula is p=e/t so p(in watts) = e(in joules) divided by t (in seconds)

If we do the math p=1/0.5 = 2

So 1 joule for half a second is 2 watts! I know that is counterintuitive but it is correct.

What happens if we take the time down to an extreme like a microsecond (one millionth of a second).

The formula is the same p=1/0.000001 this works out to a massive 1 Million watts (1,000,000w).

Now lets back our way out again, using p=e/t we transpose(rearrange) to find e. e=p*t

We do the math e=1,000,000*0.000001 = 1j

So now we have discovered that Power is a measurement of energy with respect to time. Even though the amount of energy does not change, by reducing the amount of time you expend it in, the power can rise enormously.

What has that to do with capacitors and Tesla?

Capacitors as I am sure you are aware are a way of storing energy. but they don't store very much. That's why we don't use capacitors in place of batteries. The amount of energy they store is very very low. Even really big ones.

So what was Tesla talking about? Well Capacitors have one very very important feature, they can unload that energy very very fast. So fast that we can take our one joule of energy and unload it in one microsecond, delivering a massively powerful 1 Million watts of energy!

But its over before you know it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Paul-R on June 03, 2014, 10:53:30 AM

Quote from: that_prophet on May 31, 2014, 01:19:20 PM
it is simple
you put a small amount of power into a big pulley
which you only have to rotate once -(minimal power)
and you can rotate 10 mini pulleys 100s of times
YOU SIMPLY MUST GAIN AC ELECTRICITY

You have invented a lever or a gearbox. A device with mechanical advantage. That's all.

As TK says, learn the basic principles first - force, torque, power, energy - and the relationship between these items.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 03, 2014, 11:29:24 AM

TinselKoala: Please remember that Tito is from the Philippines. English is his self taught second language.

I have scrutinized Tito's posts and when he is not emotionally reacting, he has given away gems.
#ie We know, POSITIVELY know that electrostatic energy ca be COP2.
Tito is talking about transmitting energy Tesla style and then receiving it.
Tesla's transmitter is an electrostatic device.

We also know, from patents including Melnichenko, that transmitting electrical energy picks up static. This is unwanted interference from a radio receiver's point of view, but it is just what we want from an energy amplification point of view.
Your device with the sandwiched electrostatic aerial has to be damned close. Maybe you should separate the distance from transmitter to receiver to allow for static pickup.
I suspect Kapanadze uses a bifilar pickup coil because it is extremely easy to tune and get into resonance.
Akula did a video on this which hardly anyone picked up on, but Akula found it hard to "untune" his bifilar receiver.
All we want is a little help from Tito in order to get the arrangement right.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 03, 2014, 11:32:31 AM

I suspect Tito is using the Tesla igniter patent to energize his transmitting coil.

Tito: Am I right?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 03, 2014, 02:47:07 PM

I still state Tito is right, while others not :P
It resembles to my mind ancient problems of definition of movement. If you compute too much you can find that movement is impossible ;D
"If everything when it occupies an equal space is at rest, and if that which is in locomotion is always occupying such a space at any moment, the flying arrow is therefore motionless."
(arrow paradox)
Yet the obvious experience shows that movement is common task.

The same for free energy...

Always remember that NATURE gives the final answer, not math , and you know the answer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on June 03, 2014, 02:48:20 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on June 03, 2014, 11:29:24 AM
TinselKoala: Please remember that Tito is from the Philippines. English is his self taught second language.

Physics and the math behind it are universal languages. The terms "energy" and "power" are English but the concepts to which they refer are universal. Why, even the System of units I use (Kilograms, meters, and seconds) is called the SYSTEME INTERNATIONALE, which is neither English nor Pilipino, but French.

Quote
I have scrutinized Tito's posts and when he is not emotionally reacting, he has given away gems.

He has never once "given away" any "gem" which was not previously known, and to get to the gems you have to shovel tons (metric of course ) of horsecrap out of the way.

Quote
#ie We know, POSITIVELY know that electrostatic energy ca be COP2.

Oh? Please provide a credible reference for this claim.

Quote
Tito is talking about transmitting energy Tesla style and then receiving it.

He talks a lot, but as far as I can tell, I am the only one around here, besides Farmhand, who actually has DEMONSTRATED it, with two different Tesla-inspired systems.

Quote
Tesla's transmitter is an electrostatic device.

No, it is not.

Quote

We also know, from patents including Melnichenko, that transmitting electrical energy picks up static. This is unwanted interference from a radio receiver's point of view, but it is just what we want from an energy amplification point of view.
Your device with the sandwiched electrostatic aerial has to be damned close. Maybe you should separate the distance from transmitter to receiver to allow for static pickup.

And here you again reveal that you don't really know what you are talking about. My device with the sandwiched ELECTROMAGNETIC aerial works by electromagnetic induction. I have also demonstrated the electrosmog harvester.

Quote
I suspect Kapanadze uses a bifilar pickup coil because it is extremely easy to tune and get into resonance.

Again... nonsense. I suspect Kap is a complete and total faker and I know how he did every one of his fakes.

Quote
Akula did a video on this which hardly anyone picked up on, but Akula found it hard to "untune" his bifilar receiver.
All we want is a little help from Tito in order to get the arrangement right.

Akula is caught out by his claims and his demonstrations as being another faker. You aren't going to get any practical help from Tito, since most of what he spews about Tesla and such is just carrying on the misconceptions and fake hype. Tesla himself would be shocked... shocked, I say, to see what people are claiming about him and his work.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 03, 2014, 08:30:34 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on June 03, 2014, 02:48:20 PM
I have also demonstrated the electrosmog harvester.

TK, sorry to respond only on a tangent, but I'm wondering if you might have anything to say to this query, based on your above statement and ongoing work:
http://www.overunity.com/14635/us-air-force-prepares-to-dismantle-haarp/msg405231/#msg405231
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 04, 2014, 05:08:38 AM

Quote from: forest on June 03, 2014, 02:47:07 PM
I still state Tito is right, while others not :P
It resembles to my mind ancient problems of definition of movement. If you compute too much you can find that movement is impossible ;D
"If everything when it occupies an equal space is at rest, and if that which is in locomotion is always occupying such a space at any moment, the flying arrow is therefore motionless."
(arrow paradox)
Yet the obvious experience shows that movement is common task.

The same for free energy...

Always remember that NATURE gives the final answer, not math , and you know the answer.

Clearly as you lack the ability to understand yourself you choose to believe the person who says things you like to hear.

Believing something is true doesn't make it true.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on June 04, 2014, 09:33:12 AM

ha,haha, ;D
after 393pages, we are still disputing " energy and power"--these basic definitions. big surprised to me.
but it is a realistic problem we have to face. If believe in Free Energy is real, we should think more deeply over
conventional physics definitions from textbook.
for example, I1= 1A, I2=1A, I3=1A,,, can you tell what is the difference between them? you cann't find the answer from textbook.

Weizisky

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Paul-R on June 04, 2014, 09:44:24 AM

Quote from: weizisky on June 04, 2014, 09:33:12 AM
ha,haha, ;D
after 393pages, we are still disputing " energy and power"

.
Wrong.

You are doing the disputing.

We are not; we know full well.

Get yourself a school book on Physics and then join us.
.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on June 04, 2014, 09:57:50 AM

Quote from: Paul-R on June 04, 2014, 09:44:24 AM
.
Wrong.

You are doing the disputing.

We are not; we know full well.

Get yourself a school book on Physics and then join us.
.

yes, you know full well, but I do not need join you, I am already here.

Weizisky

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 07, 2014, 01:51:33 AM

Quote from: CuriousChris on June 04, 2014, 05:08:38 AM
Clearly as you lack the ability to understand yourself you choose to believe the person who says things you like to hear.

Believing something is true doesn't make it true.

What if i will say that to you also. :P

i'm making thing easier to understand so that even a novice can grasp. :)
BUT IF THAT IS WHAT YOU THINK THEN SO BE IT. ;D ;D ;D
IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE TRUTH. ;D

The fisherman is capable to catch fish he is not the fish!!!! ;D
if you are not capable then you are lazy. :D
ENERGY IS NOT ENERGY IT IS THE NAME OF SOMETHING THAT IS EXECUTING. :o

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 07, 2014, 02:19:19 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on June 03, 2014, 02:48:20 PM
Physics and the math behind it are universal languages. The terms "energy" and "power" are English but the concepts to which they refer are universal. Why, even the System of units I use (Kilograms, meters, and seconds) is called the SYSTEME INTERNATIONALE, which is neither English nor Pilipino, but French.
He has never once "given away" any "gem" which was not previously known, and to get to the gems you have to shovel tons (metric of course ) of horsecrap out of the way. Oh? Please provide a credible reference for this claim.
He talks a lot, but as far as I can tell, I am the only one around here, besides Farmhand, who actually has DEMONSTRATED it, with two different Tesla-inspired systems. No, it is not.
And here you again reveal that you don't really know what you are talking about. My device with the sandwiched ELECTROMAGNETIC aerial works by electromagnetic induction. I have also demonstrated the electrosmog harvester. Again... nonsense. I suspect Kap is a complete and total faker and I know how he did every one of his fakes.
Akula is caught out by his claims and his demonstrations as being another faker. You aren't going to get any practical help from Tito, since most of what he spews about Tesla and such is just carrying on the misconceptions and fake hype. Tesla himself would be shocked... shocked, I say, to see what people are claiming about him and his work.

No! i don't talk too much cause i have difficulty talking in english. :D

A GEM can be define or express in many ways ok! >:(
No!, You are WRONG!, SOMETIMES MANY TIMES GEMS ARE JUST AT YOUR BACK YARD OR AT THE TRASH CAN OR JUST AT THE CORNER OF YOUR EYE. AND I BELIEVE MANY EXPERIENCE THAT ALREADY. RIGHT?, OF COURSE RIGHT. :D

It is really a big question why others can see gems and others not, guess what kind of people are they. ;) , probably they are like this => 8) blind hypocrite. :D

I have given my reason already, period.

Do not judge right away that as if you are right already, there are actually hidden things that others don't want you to know. got it? >:( :P

otit ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on June 08, 2014, 08:49:50 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 07, 2014, 02:19:19 AM
No! i don't talk too much cause i have difficulty talking in english. :D

A GEM can be define or express in many ways ok! >:(
No!, You are WRONG!, SOMETIMES MANY TIMES GEMS ARE JUST AT YOUR BACK YARD OR AT THE TRASH CAN OR JUST AT THE CORNER OF YOUR EYE. AND I BELIEVE MANY EXPERIENCE THAT ALREADY. RIGHT?, OF COURSE RIGHT. :D

It is really a big question why others can see gems and others not, guess what kind of people are they. ;) , probably they are like this => 8) blind hypocrite. :D

I have given my reason already, period.

Do not judge right away that as if you are right already, there are actually hidden things that others don't want you to know. got it? >:( :P

otit ;D

Musta pare buti ka pa ang dami mong friends dito samantalang ako nabibilang lang sa daliri. :(
Pareho tayo hirap din ako makipag usap dito nakakanosebleed kasi mag english kaya misan akala nila suplado ako pero ang tutuo di ko lang masabi ang gusto ko sabihin.
Problema ko na naman ang diabetis ko maataas na naman nakakatakot baka magka komplikasyon na ako.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 08, 2014, 09:44:30 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 02, 2014, 09:39:00 PM
Counsel
Speaking of your not having perfectly undamped waves at that time, you were referring to that character of circuit?
Tesla

Yes, but with another kind of circuit I could, of course. The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in the technical papers. I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.

I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive.

Thanks for the reminder, Teets. CAPACITOR is crucial to energy amplification.

QuoteIF YOU WILL JUST ANALYZE WHAT TESLA SAYS ABOUT 10 WATTS OF CAPACITOR ENERGY IT IS UNLIMITED
IF YOU ONLY KNEW THE RIGHT ARRANGEMENT. :)
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg404990/#msg404990

Charging caps in parallel, discharging in series?

QuoteOK, We don't actually need spark to the real thing , and to eliminate it, we should be working in low voltage and since electricity is symetrical we divert it to make it safe but we transfer a lot.

long time ago we need a spark and a spark gap but its not actually a good idea.
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg405041/#msg405041

We divert it and transfer a lot by our special arrangement of caps?

QuoteQuote from: Marsing on June 03, 2014, 05:20:08 AM
Change spark gap with Transistor, and i thought you have said those many-time, what you didn't say is "Congratulation, you have found jt".

Yes, we could do it in high voltage but i am making everyone to go into a path of safe.
but if you feel you are tesla like then proceed to 50,000 volts design its okay but its dangerous. :)
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg405063/#msg405063

Spark gap not needed. Thanks Teets. I'd rather be safe.

QuoteHOWEVER TESLA HAS A SOLUTION INTO A VERY HIGH VOLTAGE FREE ENERGY.
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE HIS MAGNIFYING TRANSMITTER. FROM SMALL ENERGY IN THE AIR THEN MAGNIFIED GOING TO EARTH.
ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS JUST AN ISOLATED SECONDARY TRANSFORMER TO GET FREE LUNCH. :)
ITS JUST A TRANSFORMER, THAT'S WHY IT CAN LAST UP TO 30 YEARS. ;) 8)
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg405110/#msg405110

Isolated secondary transformer, just like in TMT. Another great clue. Thanks Teets!

Quotehere is my important tip: There should be two caps, the collector caps should be big microfarad and acting as the battery and 2nd caps should be at least 5-11 microfarad and acting as the running capacitor and serve as a protector kunsintindor. ;D
The running capacitor should discharge fully when discharge and charge fast when charging when there is saging ang matsing ok?. ;) 8) :) ;D
That is to get the real kick of induction in question de cunsumission! :o ??? ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg404896/#msg404896

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 08, 2014, 11:24:50 AM

any advice on the gates

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 08, 2014, 01:45:46 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on June 08, 2014, 09:44:30 AM
Thanks for the reminder, Teets. CAPACITOR is crucial to energy amplification.Charging caps in parallel, discharging in series?We divert it and transfer a lot by our special arrangement of caps?Spark gap not needed. Thanks Teets. I'd rather be safe.Isolated secondary transformer, just like in TMT. Another great clue. Thanks Teets!

I agree with you Bob.
The trouble with this and other threads is that some posters are so immature that all they can do is criticise other people's mistakes.
Tito: You should ignore these people.
I do.
Nothing hurts them more than not to respond to them.

Meanwhile this is worth a look. A flashlight working only on caps.
http://laserhacker.com/?p=420 (http://laserhacker.com/?p=420)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 08, 2014, 08:26:41 PM

@a.king21
Thanks for the vote of confidence. And yes, best not to get embroiled in arguments over things that don't help the thread.
I checked out Lasersaber's flashlight. Works a lot better than the shaking flashlights I've bought over the years. Shows how little R&D goes into these mass-produced things, or perhaps it's built-in inefficiency, to keep the consumer public buying new and improved versions every so often. His work looks encouraging.

Right now, I'd really like to see us all crack the core principle of Tito's energy amplification system. I have to read more of the Tesla interview that Teets quoted in the last page or so. There's something about tapping a standing wave. Teets quoted Tesla saying that it was the damped wave. How do we tap the standing wave? How does the zener diode fit in with this (I suspect it's part of the feedback loop)? The puzzle is gradually going to come together. I think many of us have learned a lot on this thread.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 09, 2014, 12:53:14 AM

Dear Bob is it possible to find the drawing of the last videos of Daly from wesley? Inside, there is the answer for both of your questions. i.e a method to create a resonant standing wave, and how these zeners are used for creating sharp peaks in a coil..

And by the way, before some pages i had calculated the energy stored in a bank of capacitors and what happens when we charge in parallel and discharge in series. What i had concluded was that the energy is the same in one or either way. But i hadn't consider something that can make the difference. When we discharge in series, the energy is the same as in parallel, but...
1) The pressure is much higher than in parallel due to higher voltage, and
2) The discharge is happening in a quicker way as the capacity becomes smaller, which means more abrupt and sharp discharges.

Both of these reasons are able to make a difference.

Tnks
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 09, 2014, 02:38:07 AM

The standing wave is being created by the open end coil, which oscillates at each own inter capacitance and inductance. The circuit that feeds this coil, also uses two zeners in a Tito like arrangement..

Ps. Zener KB203 as in the drawing is 1.3watt at 120volt. If I make a mistake pls correct me!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 09, 2014, 04:13:51 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on June 08, 2014, 08:49:50 AM

Musta pare buti ka pa ang dami mong friends dito samantalang ako nabibilang lang sa daliri. :(
Pareho tayo hirap din ako makipag usap dito nakakanosebleed kasi mag english kaya misan akala nila suplado ako pero ang tutuo di ko lang masabi ang gusto ko sabihin.
Problema ko na naman ang diabetis ko maataas na naman nakakatakot baka magka komplikasyon na ako.

Di bale friend naman tayo e. ;)
Nasabi ko naba sayo na mabisa ang dahon ng guyabano na may dahon ng abokado sa diabetis at kung may balbas pusa ka isama mo rin. pakuluan mo ng 15 mins at uminum ng isang baso pag gabi.
kung gusto mo naman subukan yung kay reh herbal na nabibili sa robinson at sm "KINGS" ang pangalan.

at hwag ka masyado sa kanin o hwag ka masyado magkakain.
at lakipan mo ng ehersisyo.

otits ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on June 09, 2014, 05:24:38 AM

Quote from: Jeg on June 09, 2014, 02:38:07 AM
The standing wave is being created by the open end coil, which oscillates at each own inter capacitance and inductance. The circuit that feeds this coil, also uses two zeners in a Tito like arrangement..

Ps. Zener KB203 as in the drawing is 1.3watt at 120volt. If I make a mistake pls correct me!

Hi Jeg,

In the schematics from the video you uploaded above, the two diodes are labeled as КД203А which 'translates' to KD203A (and not KB203), ok?
And these diodes are not Zener diodes but 600V peak reverse voltage and 10 Amper rated 'normal' Si diodes.
http://www.ec-centre.com.ua/diodes/alldiodes.php (http://www.ec-centre.com.ua/diodes/alldiodes.php) These types are approximately equivalent to the now obsolote
1N2258 diode type.
On ebay you can buy КД203А type:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-PCS-KD203A-203-SILICON-RECTIFIER-DIODE-600V-10A-/161074727062 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-PCS-KD203A-203-SILICON-RECTIFIER-DIODE-600V-10A-/161074727062)

One more thing: you mention that "The circuit that feeds this coil, also uses two zeners in a Tito like arrangement.."
I wonder how you know what Tito's arrangement looks like?? 8)

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 09, 2014, 05:29:06 AM

Two caps charging in parallel, discharging in series with one switch. After a lot of drawings i think this is the most simple way to accomplish this. Any corrections would be appreciated.

Also, a zener which as you have told again, stops conducting under some specified voltage and current stops to flow through the gap even if the gap is fully ionized.

When the switch is in the lower position, caps charge in parallel. On the upper position caps are connecting in series, voltage is being double and discharge happen through a regulated spark gap.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 09, 2014, 05:36:12 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on June 09, 2014, 05:24:38 AM
Hi Jeg,

In the schematics from the video you uploaded above, the two diodes are labeled as КД203А which 'translates' to KD203A (and not KB203), ok?
And these diodes are not Zener diodes but 600V peak reverse voltage and 10 Amper rated 'normal' Si diodes.
http://www.ec-centre.com.ua/diodes/alldiodes.php (http://www.ec-centre.com.ua/diodes/alldiodes.php) These types are approximately equivalent to the now obsolote
1N2258 diode type.
On ebay you can buy КД203А type:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-PCS-KD203A-203-SILICON-RECTIFIER-DIODE-600V-10A-/161074727062 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-PCS-KD203A-203-SILICON-RECTIFIER-DIODE-600V-10A-/161074727062)

One more thing: you mention that "The circuit that feeds this coil, also uses two zeners in a Tito like arrangement.."
I wonder how you know what Tito's arrangement looks like?? 8)

Gyula

Hi Gyula
I show this zener symbol and I guessed that is a zener. On other places in the schematic, diodes have the usual diode symbol.

About Tito's arrangement sorry for called that this way, I should have call it Tito's possible arrangement.

Can u pls suggest a switch for the above last drawing?

Ps. In Daly's schematic is there any sense to have a diode on the secondary like this? But there is a sense of having a zener there isn't it?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on June 09, 2014, 06:59:28 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 09, 2014, 04:13:51 AM

Di bale friend naman tayo e. ;)
Nasabi ko naba sayo na mabisa ang dahon ng guyabano na may dahon ng abokado sa diabetis at kung may balbas pusa ka isama mo rin. pakuluan mo ng 15 mins at uminum ng isang baso pag gabi.
kung gusto mo naman subukan yung kay reh herbal na nabibili sa robinson at sm "KINGS" ang pangalan.

at hwag ka masyado sa kanin o hwag ka masyado magkakain.
at lakipan mo ng ehersisyo.

otits ;)

Palagay ko di uubra sakin ung dahon ng abocado kasi masydong mataas ung diabetis ko saka meron naman akong iniinom na gamot ang kaso nalilimutan ko minsan iminom kaya di bumaba-baba ang diabetis ko. Lagi tuloy ako nanlalambot.

Sana balang araw magkita tau para magtulungan tau sa paggawa ng ou device. Ang hirap pala gumawa ou device kung nag iisa ka lang at walang katulong. Marami akong gustong gawin na experiment kaso di ko magawa dahil di ako magaling sa electronics. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 09, 2014, 07:46:38 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on June 09, 2014, 06:59:28 AM
Palagay ko di uubra sakin ung dahon ng abocado kasi masydong mataas ung diabetis ko saka meron naman akong iniinom na gamot ang kaso nalilimutan ko minsan iminom kaya di bumaba-baba ang diabetis ko. Lagi tuloy ako nanlalambot.

Sana balang araw magkita tau para magtulungan tau sa paggawa ng ou device. Ang hirap pala gumawa ou device kung nag iisa ka lang at walang katulong. Marami akong gustong gawin na experiment kaso di ko magawa dahil di ako magaling sa electronics. :(

Di mo pa pala subok yung wonders of herbal medicine, alam mo bang merong kayang gawin ang herbal na di kayang gamotin ng botika. :) :o 8)

well, nasa sayo yan, ako nasubuk kona.

actually di naman masyadong kaylangan ang maraming alam sa electronics para maka gawa ka ng ou pero malaking advantage yung maraming alam sa electronics syempre.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 09, 2014, 07:59:27 AM

ok!

Lets say we have an inverter, to charge the battery using stepdown X is not efficient, but if you will just use resistor to lowerdown the volts is much cheaper in usage from the source. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 09, 2014, 08:25:21 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 09, 2014, 07:59:27 AM
ok!

Lets say we have an inverter, to charge the battery using stepdown X is not efficient, but if you will just use resistor to lowerdown the volts is much cheaper in usage from the source. 8)

This is plainly wrong. resistors dissipate energy as heat. therefore unless you have very inefficient DC-DC converter you lose more energy using a resistor to lower the voltage.

This is very basic electronics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC-to-DC_converter#Switched-mode_conversion

An inverter changes DC to AC. they are not used to charge batteries. but that's possibly just a language issue.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 09, 2014, 08:28:36 AM

Tito

You made the claim that capacitors can provide infinite energy. Please explain exactly how that is?

Please use math to provide proof.

Don't bother with the smilies it just make you look arrogant and smug so tone it down a bit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on June 09, 2014, 08:30:28 AM

Quote from: Jeg on June 09, 2014, 05:36:12 AM
Hi Gyula
I show this zener symbol and I guessed that is a zener. On other places in the schematic, diodes have the usual diode symbol.

About Tito's arrangement sorry for called that this way, I should have call it Tito's possible arrangement.

Can u pls suggest a switch for the above last drawing?

Ps. In Daly's schematic is there any sense to have a diode on the secondary like this? But there is a sense of having a zener there isn't it?

it's actually a DSRD... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Step_recovery_diode which isn't 'just' a 600V 10A diode... but has special characteristics...

A Low-Jitter 1.8-kV 100-ps Rise-Time 50-kHz
Repetition-Rate Pulsed-Power Generator (http://www.eng.tau.ac.il/~shmilo/20.pdf)
Itsu had one of these working.... tried to find the video but don't know which it was...
SLIM, Short-pulse Technology for High Gradient Induction Accelerators*

(http://www.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-wrap/getdoc/slac-pub-13477.pdf) ...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 09, 2014, 08:30:30 AM

deleted I oopsed

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 09, 2014, 08:33:42 AM

Does anyone see something wrong with that? I think that if the total voltage of both caps is under 600V we are ok.

ps. D3x i just show your answer. Thanks for helping on this..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 09, 2014, 09:23:57 AM

Quote from: CuriousChris on June 09, 2014, 08:25:21 AM
This is plainly wrong. resistors dissipate energy as heat. therefore unless you have very inefficient DC-DC converter you lose more energy using a resistor to lower the voltage.

This is very basic electronics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC-to-DC_converter#Switched-mode_conversion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC-to-DC_converter#Switched-mode_conversion)

An inverter changes DC to AC. they are not used to charge batteries. but that's possibly just a language issue.

Ya, That is wrong conventionally. :) :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 09, 2014, 09:28:58 AM

Quote from: CuriousChris on June 09, 2014, 08:28:36 AM
Tito

You made the claim that capacitors can provide infinite energy. Please explain exactly how that is?

Please use math to provide proof.

Don't bother with the smilies it just make you look arrogant and smug so tone it down a bit.

No! i didn't claim it!, Tesla said it and i believe it!. :P

wait, you are more arrogant and smug and unrespectful even without smilies.

by the way, tom bearden show some solution for that in some of his papers and its not a good idea either. :D

another by the highway, chris it really seems that you are curious isn't it? :o ;D lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 09, 2014, 06:44:36 PM

Some food for thought on how to tap the standing wave:
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg404028/#msg404028
In Lawrence Tseung's lead-out setup, his primary is the joule thief and it seems the secondary might be a ...
Oops! Gotta take Mrs. Smith out.
Will edit later ;D ;D ;D
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 09, 2014, 08:40:52 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 09, 2014, 09:28:58 AM

No! i didn't claim it!, Tesla said it and i believe it!. :P

wait, you are more arrogant and smug and unrespectful even without smilies.

by the way, tom bearden show some solution for that in some of his papers and its not a good idea either. :D

another by the highway, chris it really seems that you are curious isn't it? :o ;D lol

Tesla NEVER made that statement. Not anywhere ever.

Tom bearden is a fraud. I wouldnt trust anything he says. If you are going to make a statement or repeat a claim you should be prepared to back it up.

So find me Tesla's comment on infinite energy from a capacitor or stop repeating such rubbish.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Les Banki on June 09, 2014, 08:43:00 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on June 08, 2014, 08:49:50 AM

Musta pare buti ka pa ang dami mong friends dito samantalang ako nabibilang lang sa daliri. :(
Pareho tayo hirap din ako makipag usap dito nakakanosebleed kasi mag english kaya misan akala nila suplado ako pero ang tutuo di ko lang masabi ang gusto ko sabihin.
Problema ko na naman ang diabetis ko maataas na naman nakakatakot baka magka komplikasyon na ako.

Neo-X & Tito

I know this is "off topic" but hey, there is no need for anyone to suffer!
The CURE (not 'treatment') is simple, easy and virtually FREE!
Over the last 20+ years I have assisted several thousand people to regain their health.

To those who might be foolish enough to ignore or try to discredit the information in the attached article,
I have this short message:

Its YOUR funeral!

Cheers,
Les Banki

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 09, 2014, 10:14:20 PM

Quote from: CuriousChris on June 09, 2014, 08:40:52 PM
Tesla NEVER made that statement. Not anywhere ever.

Tom bearden is a fraud. I wouldnt trust anything he says. If you are going to make a statement or repeat a claim you should be prepared to back it up.

So find me Tesla's comment on infinite energy from a capacitor or stop repeating such rubbish.

Are you not reading in the previous pages!!!!

TESLA SAID TO THE COUNSEL THAT THERE IS NO LIMIT TO THE ENERGY YOU CAN DEVELOP IN A CONDENSER, GOT IT!
WHAT IS THAT TO YOU!!!!

ITS REALLY EASY TO YOU TO SAY FOR A MAN THAT HE IS A FRAUD ISN'T IT? WITHOUT YOU KNOWING THAT THERE ARE HIDDEN THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW.

Now i feel curious to you chris. lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 09, 2014, 10:23:17 PM

Quote from: Les Banki on June 09, 2014, 08:43:00 PM
Neo-X & Tito

I know this is "off topic" but hey, there is no need for anyone to suffer!
The CURE (not 'treatment') is simple, easy and virtually FREE!
Over the last 20+ years I have assisted several thousand people to regain their health.

To those who might be foolish enough to ignore or try to discredit the information in the attached article,
I have this short message:

Its YOUR funeral!

Cheers,
Les Banki

Ya, buddy i believe you but the water that we should take should at least broke up to .06micron to be able for us to be clean fully.

The water must can penetrate all holes inside of our body for it to neutralize.

But still death is inevitable, therefore the water that we should really take is the water of life and that is JESUS. you will never get thirst if you will drink him promise and that is truth.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Les Banki on June 09, 2014, 11:25:53 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 09, 2014, 10:23:17 PM
Ya, buddy i believe you but the water that we should take should at least broke up to .06micron to be able for us to be clean fully.

The water must can penetrate all holes inside of our body for it to neutralize.

But still death is inevitable, therefore the water that we should really take is the water of life and that is JESUS. you will never get thirst if you will drink him promise and that is truth.

Tito,

No offense but I don't think you have read and UNDERSTOOD that article!

Further, you are mixing your religion (like you have done right through most of your posts from virtually day one!) into this.

Let me just say that I am NOT interested in ANY religion but you obviously don't know the difference between religion and SPIRITUALITY!
In any case, this is NOT the tread to discuss health, death, religion or spirituality.

Do yourself a favor and read the article I have attached.
However, be warned that it might destroy your religious fanaticism!

Cheers,
Les Banki

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 09, 2014, 11:42:16 PM

Curious Chris:
How is Tom Bearden a fraud?
I think you should back your statement up with facts, don't you?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 10, 2014, 12:29:33 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 09, 2014, 10:14:20 PM
Are you not reading in the previous pages!!!!

TESLA SAID TO THE COUNSEL THAT THERE IS NO LIMIT TO THE ENERGY YOU CAN DEVELOP IN A CONDENSER, GOT IT!
WHAT IS THAT TO YOU!!!!

ITS REALLY EASY TO YOU TO SAY FOR A MAN THAT HE IS A FRAUD ISN'T IT? WITHOUT YOU KNOWING THAT THERE ARE HIDDEN THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW.

Now i feel curious to you chris. lol

Did you not go to school?

Surely your teacher taught you that if you cite a source you must provide the reference to that for fact checking.

You can scream as much as you like about what Telsa said but unless you provide some reference to actual quotes it is meaningless. more so I say it is deliberate and deceptive.

If you cannot provide the reference then he never said it.

If you provide the reference I will be able to explain how what Telsa MAY have said has been taken out of context.

Again I reiterate Tesla never said a condensor can develop infinite energy. Telsa said many things. Some of them we consider plainly ridiculous like he believed in martians. But when it came to electricity the guy had no equal.

Because of that much of what he said has been misinterpreted, Then and now.

Telsa is a favourite subject of mine. So for you to tell lies about what he said is extremely upsetting and it NEEDS clarification. So many of the fools on this forum invoke Tesla's name for their stupid claims. All they are doing is trying to fool people like you and me. They don't fool me!

I reiterate if you are going to cite someone else's work then provide a reference. Thats how science is done. Its not done by hearsay and bogus claims. We have a name for that too. Its called Pseudoscience.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 10, 2014, 12:32:55 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on June 09, 2014, 11:42:16 PM
Curious Chris:
How is Tom Bearden a fraud?
I think you should back your statement up with facts, don't you?

Fact 1/ Overunity is impossible tried and true
Fact 2/ Tom Bearden claims overunity
Fact 3/ Tom Bearden makes money off his false claims

ipso facto Tom Bearden is a fraud!

According to this site he is also loony

http://americanloons.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/480-tom-bearden.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 10, 2014, 01:08:10 AM

Quote from: CuriousChris on June 10, 2014, 12:32:55 AM
Fact 1/ Overunity is impossible tried and true
Fact 2/ Tom Bearden claims overunity
Fact 3/ Tom Bearden makes money off his false claims

ipso facto Tom Bearden is a fraud!

According to this site he is also loony

http://americanloons.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/480-tom-bearden.html (http://americanloons.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/480-tom-bearden.html)

if so then what is this:

« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2014, 04:34:47 PM »

Quote from: CuriousChris on June 03, 2014, 02:20:40 PM (http://www.overunity.com/14678/trolls-skeptics-cynics-negative-thinkers-your-future-is-lmited/msg405130/#msg405130)

Yes that's exactly what the cap does. No matter what switch you use when opening a switch to an inductor you need to protect it from the massive voltage spike.

I don't doubt your tiny picofarad ceramic capicitor is totally destroying the overunity effect. Thats why we in the government teach everyone to use capacitors in
spark quench circuits. It's really a clever ruse to hide overunity.

I guess these clever people here have discovered our secret. We will have to shut down this forum and arrange for everyone who has ever read it 'have accident to protect our control.

_{Please do not encourage people to research into negative reactance devices.}

_{i'm really curious. lol} ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 10, 2014, 01:19:33 AM

Quote from: CuriousChris on June 10, 2014, 12:29:33 AM
Did you not go to school?

Surely your teacher taught you that if you cite a source you must provide the reference to that for fact checking.

You can scream as much as you like about what Telsa said but unless you provide some reference to actual quotes it is meaningless. more so I say it is deliberate and deceptive.

If you cannot provide the reference then he never said it.

If you provide the reference I will be able to explain how what Telsa MAY have said has been taken out of context.

Again I reiterate Tesla never said a condensor can develop infinite energy. Telsa said many things. Some of them we consider plainly ridiculous like he believed in martians. But when it came to electricity the guy had no equal.

Because of that much of what he said has been misinterpreted, Then and now.

Telsa is a favourite subject of mine. So for you to tell lies about what he said is extremely upsetting and it NEEDS clarification. So many of the fools on this forum invoke Tesla's name for their stupid claims. All they are doing is trying to fool people like you and me. They don't fool me!

I reiterate if you are going to cite someone else's work then provide a reference. Thats how science is done. Its not done by hearsay and bogus claims. We have a name for that too. Its called Pseudoscience.

No need for reference ok, i experience it already and it is true that caps can supply indefinite energy! :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 10, 2014, 01:26:30 AM

Quote
Yes that's exactly what the cap does. No matter what switch you use when opening a switch to an inductor you need to protect it from the massive voltage spike.

I don't doubt your tiny picofarad ceramic capicitor is totally destroying the overunity effect. That's why we in the government teach everyone to use capacitors in
spark quench circuits. It's really a clever ruse to hide overunity.

I guess these clever people here have discovered our secret. We will have to shut down this forum and arrange for everyone who has ever read it 'have accident to protect our control.

I hope you are really not citing this as something other than a statement of fact followed by a tongue in cheek dig at all the idiots that claim its all a coverup.
Just in case you are truly stupid. Voltage does not equal Energy. Just the same as power does not equal energy and I'll throw this one in Current does not equal Energy.

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 10, 2014, 01:19:33 AM

No need for reference ok, i experience it already and it is true that caps can supply indefinite energy! :P

That then proves you actually don't know do you. You cannot reference it because you never actually heard it. you make up lies and upon those lies you hope to fool others.

Sorry mate I call it as I see it you are fraud and a fake.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on June 10, 2014, 01:59:49 AM

Quote from: CuriousChris on June 10, 2014, 12:32:55 AM
Fact 1/ Overunity is impossible tried and true

as long as the source is unknown, it could be considered as overunity, soon enough as it was accepted by mainstream, it would not considered as overunity anymore.

QuoteFact 2/ Tom Bearden claims overunity

of course, as you see why overunity is possible, he think that he was the first, read above.

QuoteFact 3/ Tom Bearden makes money off his false claims

false claims !!!, read bold text again.

Quoteipso facto Tom Bearden is a fraud!

According to this site he is also loony

http://americanloons.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/480-tom-bearden.html

not every page found in web contain useful info, it's also contain a crap/rubbish.
everyone can write a blog and fill with whatever they want. you can do too if you wish.
everyone searching overunity can be considered as a crazy/loony, because mainstream say it impossible.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on June 10, 2014, 03:18:25 AM

Quote from: CuriousChris on June 09, 2014, 08:25:21 AM
This is plainly wrong. resistors dissipate energy as heat. therefore unless you have very inefficient DC-DC converter you lose more energy using a resistor to lower the voltage.

This is very basic electronics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC-to-DC_converter#Switched-mode_conversion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC-to-DC_converter#Switched-mode_conversion)

An inverter changes DC to AC. they are not used to charge batteries. but that's possibly just a language issue.

Imho, capacitor is much bettter than resistor. Not only it can reduce voltage, it can also provide power factor correction in other inductive load. For example you have 110volts lamp, you can add capacitor in series with it to reduce its voltage or current so you can run it in 220volts. When you have a washing machine running, the capacitor in series with lamp provide some power factor correction to the motor of the washing machine increasing its efficiency.

Btw, im so down i feel i like its end of the world in me. I dont like this feeling of broken hearted its make me to think suicide. I love her but why she hurt my feelings. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 10, 2014, 04:17:03 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on June 10, 2014, 03:18:25 AM

Imho, capacitor is much bettter than resistor. Not only it can reduce voltage, it can also provide power factor correction in other inductive load. For example you have 110volts lamp, you can add capacitor in series with it to reduce its voltage or current so you can run it in 220volts. When you have a washing machine running, the capacitor in series with lamp provide some power factor correction to the motor of the washing machine increasing its efficiency.

Btw, im so down i feel i like its end of the world in me. I dont like this feeling of broken hearted its make me to think suicide. I love her but why she hurt my feelings. :(

who ? free energy ? ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 10, 2014, 04:33:58 AM

Marsing and Tito are both correct. Actually the whole interview with Tesla (published as book by Leland Anderson) is a big CLUE, but Tesla was not ready to say about something he would like to capitalize on. You must connect various parts of interview and solve some riddles when he ends the statements.
It's the same riddle as you can see now with exaples of incredible devices from Akula or Lasersaber. It looks the same , ordinary but only Lasersaber can make it so efficient, that's the big pain for us to understand.
And Tesla mentioned his oscillator can run for 3 years once (!) started . This is real overunity energy. Pay attention to other parts, how he tries to explain without going into details how he after years of struggle found a way of generating perfectly continous oscillations from the few initial kicks. This is what we want ! Now look back into Lasersaber small flashlight and see the same here, and usable output power ...just small scale now...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on June 10, 2014, 05:10:53 AM

Quote from: forest on June 10, 2014, 04:17:03 AM

who ? free energy ? ???

No my crush she dump me :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 10, 2014, 06:39:37 AM

Quote from: Marsing on June 10, 2014, 01:59:49 AM
as long as the source is unknown, it could be considered as overunity, soon enough as it was accepted by mainstream, it would not considered as overunity anymore.
of course, as you see why overunity is possible, he think that he was the first, read above.
false claims !!!, read bold text again.

not every page found in web contain useful info, it's also contain a crap/rubbish.
everyone can write a blog and fill with whatever they want. you can do too if you wish.
everyone searching overunity can be considered as a crazy/loony, because mainstream say it impossible.

Overunity is possible?

Prove it!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 10, 2014, 07:03:21 AM

Quote from: forest on June 10, 2014, 04:33:58 AM
Marsing and Tito are both correct. Actually the whole interview with Tesla (published as book by Leland Anderson) is a big CLUE, but Tesla was not ready to say about something he would like to capitalize on. You must connect various parts of interview and solve some riddles when he ends the statements.
It's the same riddle as you can see now with exaples of incredible devices from Akula or Lasersaber. It looks the same , ordinary but only Lasersaber can make it so efficient, that's the big pain for us to understand.
And Tesla mentioned his oscillator can run for 3 years once (!) started . This is real overunity energy. Pay attention to other parts, how he tries to explain without going into details how he after years of struggle found a way of generating perfectly continous oscillations from the few initial kicks. This is what we want ! Now look back into Lasersaber small flashlight and see the same here, and usable output power ...just small scale now...

So you are putting words in Tesla's mouth are you. You are going to claim that its not what he said, but the fact he didn't say you can't get infinite power out of a condensor (capacitor) that proves you can get infinite power out of a condensor

What utter claptrap. Do you believe in the tooth fairy as well.

Tell me this. Has there ever been anyone who made a false claim?

Has there ever been any one who lied about what they can achieve?

Has there ever been anyone who made measurement errors and mistakenly believed that they had achieved the impossible (I know I have )?

So I assume you will answer Yes to all of the above

In that case how can you be sure what anyone says is true and accurate. You can't of course. You must have the claim replicated and confirmed by independent trusted sources. which rules out other wacky people on sites like this. It needs to be a university or independent measurement organisation.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 10, 2014, 07:07:17 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on June 10, 2014, 05:10:53 AM
No my crush she dump me :(

Sorry to hear that Neo. Its hard to lose a love. But I am sure you will bounce back. My way of dealing with those issues is to try and do something impossible, Its one of the reasons I frequent sites like this.

By distracting oneself by concentrating on something else the pain dulls just that little bit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 10, 2014, 07:28:44 AM

Quote from: CuriousChris on June 10, 2014, 07:03:21 AM
So you are putting words in Tesla's mouth are you. You are going to claim that its not what he said, but the fact he didn't say you can't get infinite power out of a condensor (capacitor) that proves you can get infinite power out of a condensor

What utter claptrap. Do you believe in the tooth fairy as well.

Tell me this. Has there ever been anyone who made a false claim?

Has there ever been any one who lied about what they can achieve?

Has there ever been anyone who made measurement errors and mistakenly believed that they had achieved the impossible (I know I have )?

So I assume you will answer Yes to all of the above

In that case how can you be sure what anyone says is true and accurate. You can't of course. You must have the claim replicated and confirmed by independent trusted sources. which rules out other wacky people on sites like this. It needs to be a university or independent measurement organisation.

I don't state anything nor I force you to react. My comment was not for you but for others who can read between words and have attitude to confess there is something more then directly said...
It's obvious if you take Tesla statements together.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 10, 2014, 07:36:11 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on June 10, 2014, 03:18:25 AM

Imho, capacitor is much bettter than resistor. Not only it can reduce voltage, it can also provide power factor correction in other inductive load. For example you have 110volts lamp, you can add capacitor in series with it to reduce its voltage or current so you can run it in 220volts. When you have a washing machine running, the capacitor in series with lamp provide some power factor correction to the motor of the washing machine increasing its efficiency.

Btw, im so down i feel i like its end of the world in me. I dont like this feeling of broken hearted its make me to think suicide. I love her but why she hurt my feelings. :(

Does the capacitor not also controle the "inrush current" and shall we not also think -vice-versa- about "outrush current " like Dirac surges/needle pulses under free/variable frequency conditions ?

fast (versus material reaction-time) and sharp(material sphere deepness; full potential)

Sincerely
OCWL

surge limiting/controlling for lamp-filaments and motor-coils

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=kazumi+masaki&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=ken+hayashibara (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=kazumi+masaki&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=ken+hayashibara)

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=zahardis&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=zahardis&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC)

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5942858A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=4&date=19990824&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5942858A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=4&date=19990824&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on June 10, 2014, 07:58:33 AM

Quote from: forest on June 10, 2014, 07:28:44 AM
I don't state anything nor I force you to react. My comment was not for you but for others who can read between words and have attitude to confess there is something more then directly said...
It's obvious if you take Tesla statements together.

Saying meaningless things like "its obvious if you take Tesla statements together." is just rubbish. If you don't know that then shame on you.

If you are going to make a claim you need to provide supporting evidence.

So in an effort to understand, please reference some of those statements that should be taken together. I am determined to get to the bottom of why some people say Tesla said or meant things he never said, and you are not him so you can never assume what he meant.

The fact that people like you and Tito put words into Tesla's mouth. Words he never said. Then making false claims about them is totally disrespectful to the great man. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

At least attempt to be honest if you cannot put together a cogent explanation of what he said and why you think it means something then admit you should not be saying it.

Or prove me wrong. Your choice.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on June 10, 2014, 09:18:26 AM

Quote from: CuriousChris on June 10, 2014, 06:39:37 AM
Overunity is possible?

Prove it!

Define your own understanding of overunity first. i have showed mine.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 10, 2014, 01:24:25 PM

Forest:

QuoteIt's the same riddle as you can see now with exaples of incredible devices from Akula or Lasersaber. It looks the same , ordinary but only Lasersaber can make it so efficient, that's the big pain for us to understand.

There should be no mystery if someone does a planned set of measurements on Lasersaber's circuit. It should all be understandable by doing a thorough investigation. It's something that should not be that difficult to do.

Akula on the other hand is a fraud. There has been a couple of months work done by the replicators with no success. I think the reasonable assumption is hidden batteries or similar tricks.

MileHigh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 10, 2014, 07:23:59 PM

Two pages of bs, really
You dont have circuits to study, test
Work together help each other
Discuss the workings of a circuit,
Learn
Teach
Discuss

good grief
what a waste of time

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 10, 2014, 08:36:05 PM

@Dave45 - Well-said!

Here's a blast from the past that's really worth checking out and bookmarking (i.e., the link).
Bob

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 30, 2010, 07:48:19 PM
hi everyone! good day! ;D

I just want to share this library that helps me a lot!
There's a lot of infos here, hope it'll help a little in your FE adventure. ;D

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?&p=how+to+build+a+free+energy+device&rs=0ni=20&fr=yfp-t-701-s&fr2=

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 10, 2014, 08:38:38 PM

Lasersaber's circuits are not O.U., If you want confirmation of the fact his circuits are not O.U. then Just ask him, clearly and directly.

I already did ask him if any of his circuits showed O.U. or greater than 100% efficient and he replied and he said no, as he was asked a direct question he gave a direct answer.

A 25 Farad capacitor charged to 5 volts contains more potential energy than a 20 mAh 3.7 volt battery. :D ;) :D And should run a circuit drawing tiny power for some hours.

In some recent tests I found that if the LED's are supplied just over their conduction voltage they use a tiny amount of power, as the voltage supplied is increased the amount of current through them increases but at some point the gain in brightness is not linear with the extra power supplied.

ie, if I run 4 x 5 mm LED's with 10.6 volts across them they are fairly bright but not fully "bright" then if I try to increase the voltage the current increases a lot without very much increase in brightness.

OK so 4 x 5 mm LED's and to calculate--- 1 mA at lets just say 10 volts = 0.01 Watts, a 25 Farad capacitor charged to 5 volts contains 312 Joules. So the LED's can run for 31,000 seconds, or if we divide by 60 twice we get 8.66 hours. How could anyone tell the difference in brightness over the length of a video ? And they can run from less and appear fairly bright to look at but for practical light output they need over 11 volts across them and the input/output power goes up lot to go from 10.6 volts across them to 11.6 volts across them.

All Lasersaber's circuits do is use an amount of stored energy to "partially" drive some LED's with a tiny amount of power.

Now if he could get a Farad sized or above capacitor to charge up while lighting 4 x 5 mm led's using 0.01 Watts continuous input I would be surprised.

If we supply the LED's with DC and actually measure the amount of power it takes to light the LED's to be seemingly bright but use as little power as possible (adjusting power by efficient way) then we can calculate the energy dissipation to achieve that.

Does anyone see any output power measurements shown by Lasersaber ?

I say he should measure the power through the LED's so we can see how long they would run from a given amount of stored potential energy in a capacitor.

Until then it's just ooohs and aaahhhhs.

..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 10, 2014, 08:39:31 PM

Couldn't resist:

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 02, 2010, 10:03:14 PM
Ya, i think i just made an improvement? or a variation in ossie's design by eliminating one switch, and added up some secondaries in ossie's series coils then connecting them parallel to add more extra juice. simple but effective.hmmmm ;D of course we can add a lot of transistors in 7812 setup as current amplifier in the secondaries hmmmmmmm!.

Quote
It is the nature that will sustain itself, we only need some part of it, all we need is a falling action or a momentum action buddy, it will work contineously forever ;)

in continuation with that, i also rediscover that electricity has also sucking and pushing ability wherein it is what we need to make it work contineously.

And this really is a free energy!
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg273221/#msg273221

Teets is saying this after showing everyone a siphoning principle. He then says it applies to tapping the environment's energy/electricity as well. Further on (will see if I find the quote), he talks about creating an imbalance, and speaks of a smaller coil with thick wires, followed by a larger coil with thin wires to step things up. Seems like same principle as siphoning diagram before this above-linked post.

Quotesmall coil to large coil means to me as thick coil to thin coil and that is what i'm using for boosting voltage and current of course i'm not saying it is complete already ok!
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg266443/#msg266443

Hasta pronto amigos.
Te portes bien Tito!
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on June 10, 2014, 11:53:23 PM

Quote from: CuriousChris on June 10, 2014, 07:07:17 AM
Sorry to hear that Neo. Its hard to lose a love. But I am sure you will bounce back. My way of dealing with those issues is to try and do something impossible, Its one of the reasons I frequent sites like this.

By distracting oneself by concentrating on something else the pain dulls just that little bit.

tnx CuriousChris.. I hope i forget her soon so i can move on.. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on June 11, 2014, 04:52:42 AM

Haha im fully recovered now.. I find a new crush this time ill make sure i will not fail, im already learned from my mistake. ;D ;D ;D
This is her picture

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10294478_751419488211649_7897064733272996335_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10294478_751419488211649_7897064733272996335_n.jpg)
https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/q73/s720x720/1002661_713351675351764_56961628_n.jpg (https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/q73/s720x720/1002661_713351675351764_56961628_n.jpg)

Shes so beautiful and kind i hope she likes me too.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 11, 2014, 05:23:43 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on June 11, 2014, 04:52:42 AM
Haha im fully recovered now.. I find a new crush this time ill make sure i will not fail, im already learned from my mistake. ;D ;D ;D
This is her picture

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10294478_751419488211649_7897064733272996335_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10294478_751419488211649_7897064733272996335_n.jpg)
https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/q73/s720x720/1002661_713351675351764_56961628_n.jpg (https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/q73/s720x720/1002661_713351675351764_56961628_n.jpg)

Shes so beautiful and kind i hope she likes me too.

Oh,you are so young, boy :'( Missed that time

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 11, 2014, 08:59:42 AM

@curicongchris

Well, that is your belief, i'll respect that.

BUTT!!! YOU MAYBE FALL IN THIS CATEGORY:

1) YOU MAYBE A SUPPRESSOR
2) YOU MAYBE COVERING SOMETHING OR HIDING SOMETHING
3) YOU MAYBE AN M.I.B 8)
4) YOU MAYBE A SAUDI NATIONAL.
5) YOU MAYBE A PRETENDER
6) ALL OF THE ABOVE ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 11, 2014, 10:51:37 AM

Tito: You have many friends here.
Please ignore your enemies.
Your enemies want you to react.
Pretend they are not here.
That makes them really mad. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on June 12, 2014, 08:18:09 AM

Tito should post this here

"We can actually reproduce 50,000 to unlimited watts just by knowing the momentum of electricity and the transformer technique." ;D

http://www.overunity.com/14573/dr-t-henry-moray-free-energy-device-producing-50000-watts-of-electricity/msg405965/#msg405965

...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on June 12, 2014, 11:17:45 AM

Why pay for foreign oil to generate our electricity
When we can multiply electricity with pulleys for free

Could free energy be so simple = that we missed it
How is electricity generated = by rotating coils or magnets
So,,,,,,,, the more rotations the more electricity, right
We know that we can massively multiply rotations

Using simple pulley systems
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

Where you put a small amount of electricity into one DC motor
That is attached to a large (100 cm) circumference pulley
Then attach 10 mini-pulleys (1 cm) circumference pulleys
,,,
Would not this one large pulley's rotation of input
Give you 10 X 100 rotations of AC electricity

Free energy has been stairing us right in the face
Ever since the electric motor was invented

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 12, 2014, 01:53:29 PM

that_prophet:

False information.

If you put a load on ANY OF YOUR GENERATORS THE WHOLE LOT WILL SLOW DOWN DIRECTLY TO THE AMOUNT OF POWER EXTRACTED.
If You put 100 watts in - then light a hundred watt light bulb - YOUR ENTIRE DEVICE WILL STOP.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND!!!!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on June 12, 2014, 04:51:00 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on June 12, 2014, 01:53:29 PM
that_prophet:
False information.
If you put a load on ANY OF YOUR GENERATORS THE WHOLE LOT WILL SLOW DOWN DIRECTLY TO THE AMOUNT OF POWER EXTRACTED.
If You put 100 watts in - then light a hundred watt light bulb - YOUR ENTIRE DEVICE WILL STOP.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND!!!!!!

@a.king21

Geez man, you are such a party pooper. I, and I am sure many here, would have liked to see such a device as @that_prophet just showed us, but in real life working the way he says. If it ever worked, he would be the next Miracle Super Man. But instead, you had to go and explain the reality about generator drag and the intense energy required to overcome this and that given the prime mover is on such a big wheel, it will never even turn after 10 watts output from the generators because the drag now has great leverage in its side. Why did you have to go and tell him all this? Bad boy.

hehehe

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on June 12, 2014, 09:44:57 PM

Quote from: that_prophet on June 12, 2014, 11:17:45 AM
Why pay for foreign oil to generate our electricity
When we can multiply electricity with pulleys for free

Could free energy be so simple = that we missed it
How is electricity generated = by rotating coils or magnets
So,,,,,,,, the more rotations the more electricity, right
We know that we can massively multiply rotations

Using simple pulley systems
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ (http://free-energy.yolasite.com/)

Where you put a small amount of electricity into one DC motor
That is attached to a large (100 cm) circumference pulley
Then attach 10 mini-pulleys (1 cm) circumference pulleys
,,,
Would not this one large pulley's rotation of input
Give you 10 X 100 rotations of AC electricity

Free energy has been stairing us right in the face
Ever since the electric motor was invented

I learned resistance from friction increases dramatically when I was just a wee kid (less than 10 years probably) and playing with Lego gears... I too thought...well I can just step up the speed here.. big gear:small gear ... repeat 10 times... try to turn big gear.... cannot turn it... try to turns mall gear... really easy but that's the wrong direction.... remove gears down to 2 or 3 pair...and can almost turn it

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on June 13, 2014, 04:02:21 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on June 11, 2014, 04:52:42 AM
Haha im fully recovered now.. I find a new crush this time ill make sure i will not fail, im already learned from my mistake. ;D ;D ;D
This is her picture

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10294478_751419488211649_7897064733272996335_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10294478_751419488211649_7897064733272996335_n.jpg)
https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/q73/s720x720/1002661_713351675351764_56961628_n.jpg (https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/q73/s720x720/1002661_713351675351764_56961628_n.jpg)

Shes so beautiful and kind i hope she likes me too.

I got her number and i text her but she didnt reply :(
But I wont give up, i will send her a qoutes and pictures message everyday even she didnt reply.
I know girls likes a guy who makes them happy even in a simple ways.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 13, 2014, 04:23:23 AM

Quote from: Marsing on June 12, 2014, 08:18:09 AM
Tito should post this here

"We can actually reproduce 50,000 to unlimited watts just by knowing the momentum of electricity and the transformer technique." ;D

http://www.overunity.com/14573/dr-t-henry-moray-free-energy-device-producing-50000-watts-of-electricity/msg405965/#msg405965 (http://www.overunity.com/14573/dr-t-henry-moray-free-energy-device-producing-50000-watts-of-electricity/msg405965/#msg405965)

...

So what's funny? :D

is it difficult to do that?. Tesla and moray are already proof, all you just need to do is rediscover. :)

Electricity is almost no weight at all, so the momentum is a great tool.
its like a domino effect. :)

You know what buddy? i'm very lazy to rediscover something if there is no one before me done it already. did you get what i mean?
since there are proof already, you should be eager to do it, experiment on it. :) 8)

Tesla already gave us a lot of example to produce volts and currents isn't it, and it is very easy isn't it? ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 13, 2014, 04:42:37 AM

I think THAT_PROPHET is a false prophet isn't it everyone? :D ;D >:(

I think, a better and a little similar with this is the 369 gear technique. it was posted by sir wattsup already in different planets :D , i'm just not sure if its really working cause i didn't tried it yet cause there's a lot of work to do, sorry i'm too lazy for that, cause there's always an easy way to make power. :) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 13, 2014, 04:50:38 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on June 13, 2014, 04:02:21 AM
I got her number and i text her but she didnt reply :(
But I wont give up, i will send her a qoutes and pictures message everyday even she didnt reply.
I know girls likes a guy who makes them happy even in a simple ways.

if you want her happy, you give her lots of chocolates, hurry up before its too late. :D

and b4 you gave them, you taste them first for your diabetis. ;D joke.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 13, 2014, 07:56:31 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on June 11, 2014, 10:51:37 AM
Tito: You have many friends here.
Please ignore your enemies.
Your enemies want you to react.
Pretend they are not here.
That makes them really mad. ;)

Well, my friends sometimes they become my enemies, and sometimes my enemies become my friends
that's why i don't trust anyone

But for me the important is i opened everyone's mind in a world of free energy.

For everyone's information currently i have discovered three way to achieve overunity and is in:
a) pure ac AMPLIFICATION
b) ac and dc mix AMPLIFICATION
c) pure dc AMPLIFICATION

Currently i am studying a simple elements available everywhere to achieve overunity.
finding different reaction from acids, i love experimentation

I SAID THIS NOT BOAST BUT TO GIVE EVERYONE'S HOPE FOR FREE ENERGY.
AND TO INFORM EVERYONE THAT OVERUNITY IS REAL.

otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 13, 2014, 11:36:09 AM

Wow! Tito , you must be a TRUE GENIUS.

Salute You, TiGenius

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on June 13, 2014, 12:07:27 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 13, 2014, 04:42:37 AM
sorry i'm too lazy for that, cause there's always an easy way to make power. :) 8)

@Teets

Just so we are very clear without any misunderstandings.

Eating a bucket of beans to produce methane does not count as OU.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 13, 2014, 05:44:20 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 13, 2014, 07:56:31 AM

Well, my friends sometimes they become my enemies, and sometimes my enemies become my friends
that's why i don't trust anyone

But for me the important is i opened everyone's mind in a world of free energy.

For everyone's information currently i have discovered three way to achieve overunity and is in:
a) pure ac AMPLIFICATION
b) ac and dc mix AMPLIFICATION
c) pure dc AMPLIFICATION

Currently i am studying a simple elements available everywhere to achieve overunity.
finding different reaction from acids, i love experimentation

I SAID THIS NOT BOAST BUT TO GIVE EVERYONE'S HOPE FOR FREE ENERGY.
AND TO INFORM EVERYONE THAT OVERUNITY IS REAL.

otits

So your purpose here is not to show anything real or tangible, nothing at all, rather it seems by your admission that your purpose is to merely create Hype, nothing more. Anyone can make all kinds of claims, but it means nothing without supporting evidence. Claims without evidence is just words. Evidence means shown measurements on in out "Energy" figures. We can do the calculations ourselves.

If you have something to show Tito you should show it.

..

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 14, 2014, 12:08:23 AM

Maybe Tito's here to teach - not by giving answers, but by providing clues that will get people to think hard, outside their box, and to try new things. No one is forced to participate in this thread. As far as I can see, it is what it is, and those who prefer a different style of sharing may not find their expectations met. But I've learned a lot here. This thread has been a good place for me and some others, but it might not be for everyone.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on June 14, 2014, 12:24:57 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 13, 2014, 04:50:38 AM

if you want her happy, you give her lots of chocolates, hurry up before its too late. :D

and b4 you gave them, you taste them first for your diabetis. ;D joke.

La akong pera di ko naman pwede ibigay ung tinda naming chocolate.. :D
Okey lang ba ligawan ung babae kahit na 10years ang agwat ng age?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 14, 2014, 01:11:57 AM

Quote from: forest on June 13, 2014, 11:36:09 AM
Wow! Tito , you must be a TRUE GENIUS.

Salute You, TiGenius

No, i'm not considering myself as a genius i maybe a good analyzer and a wide reader and i give time to everything to scrutinize and really eager to discover every working engine of a technology.
Then i go to a thinking chair and thinking everything.
and also i maybe a good innovator and a good simplifier.

When i look at a circuit, i always look for the working horse of it and simplifying and make it small as much as possible.

and also i think its the important thing, i pray, because many times there are ideas that just flash in my mind. i believe that's God. :)

otits :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 14, 2014, 01:37:12 AM

Quote from: Farmhand on June 13, 2014, 05:44:20 PM
So your purpose here is not to show anything real or tangible, nothing at all, rather it seems by your admission that your purpose is to merely create Hype, nothing more. Anyone can make all kinds of claims, but it means nothing without supporting evidence. Claims without evidence is just words. Evidence means shown measurements on in out "Energy" figures. We can do the calculations ourselves.

If you have something to show Tito you should show it.

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..

Yes buddy and i'm sorry for that, everyone may think anything from me and i don't care.
i am here to learn also and i got lots of knowledge especially from sir wattsup and erfinder and many in youtube.
well, to pay for it, i share some nearest thing as possible but i confess that i do not give intentionally the detail and in jumble form sorry. :(

but since we are all here to learn, and every ones got of idea or info is for them.
and mine is mine.

and its up to us how extent of info we can give to others.

i think that's fair for everyone.

etuts :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM

Hey boys
It's been a long time now since i 'd like to open a conversation about an article that i have read in an old Greek magazine. But, every time i get involve in a new project and i never have time for analyzing or evaluating this hopeful method for amplifying an initial energy. Anyway, i can give some seeds/clues and do it what you want.

Well, there is an inventor that claims huge amounts of energy, extracting it by discharging capacitors, through pure carbon like the one that GRAY used in his tubes. I believe that this is the real secret of Gray when he was reporting output currents of tenths and hundreds of Amber from his tubes!

The idea is this: Carbon is a soft material, and by discharging a cap through it, some electrons from this abruptly inrush current manage to reach the nuclei of carbon's atoms. Finally an electron manage to get inside of the atom's nuclei, and for some microseconds, carbon atom is being transformed to Barium! This happens because the incoming electron reserves one proton from the nuclei, and transoms it to barium as i told for some time fraction. After this time fraction, the new barium atom manage to push away again the new electron from its nuclei and transforms itself again to its previous state which is to become carbon again. The electron which being pushed back again from the atom, which now have a thousands of times more speed, is being captured in an iron toroid core coil around the piece of carbon, which is polarized with some DC voltage and acts like an electron trap. This method states that the output current from the toroid is being multiplied like some thousand of times and it is capable for creating over some few hundreds of Amber. The amount of energy depend on the input current versus the diameter of the carbon piece (if i remember right but i can read it again if you wish).

If this is true, then imagine how many possibilities exist for creating something descent from our builds!

Tnks
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on June 14, 2014, 08:16:12 AM

Do u have facebook Tito i will add you?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 14, 2014, 08:25:55 AM

For the records i found the name of the inventor who is French. His name is Michel Meyer-Mace. It published at a web site of Chili. If anyone knows something more please share it if you wish.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 14, 2014, 08:43:41 AM

Some numbers

The electron needs some few thousands of ev of energy to reach the nuclei, and goes out with energy that reach 13 millions of ev.

With polarized output coil, the output reaches a peak current of 300A for about 200us, and then goes to zero in a decay within 700us. Total current pulse duration 900us

With unpolarized output coil, the output reaches a peak of 150A for a period of about 800us and then ceases down in a total pulse of 1600us.

The above numbers extracted from the article, and the diagram of the output pulses of the specific experiment is following.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 14, 2014, 08:55:12 AM

The original article in Greek

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on June 14, 2014, 09:09:32 AM

Hi.. jeg,

i am sure this is what you mean.

http://www.overunity.com/4333/meyer-mace-isotopic-nmr-generator/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 14, 2014, 09:32:26 AM

Quote from: Marsing on June 14, 2014, 09:09:32 AM
Hi.. jeg,

i am sure this is what you mean.

http://www.overunity.com/4333/meyer-mace-isotopic-nmr-generator/

Wow Marsing.. thanks. It is a different patent i guess but probably they are related between each other. So much treasure inside this forum but very difficult to locate it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on June 14, 2014, 10:03:38 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 13, 2014, 04:23:23 AM

So what's funny? :D

....

You already know the answer, puzzle make it funny ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on June 14, 2014, 10:32:04 AM

Quote from: Jeg on June 14, 2014, 09:32:26 AM
Wow Marsing.. thanks. It is a different patent i guess but probably they are related between each other. So much treasure inside this forum but very difficult to locate it.

Lol, actually i only assume because of the threads title mention "mayer mace".

thank to bring this up.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 15, 2014, 11:48:43 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on June 14, 2014, 08:16:12 AM
Do u have facebook Tito i will add you?

Yes off course but Tito L. Oracion is not my name.
That's why google made me laugh when he is looking for a patents of my relative's inventions. bwa hahahahhahahhahahahahhahahha ;D What a poor logic. :D

Tito L. Oracion actually is one of the head cutters unshown in mindanao.
That's why i advise google to not forget bring home his head when he found Tito L. Oracion. ;D bwahahahahahhahahhahaahaha.

For security reason i cannot give you my account in FB ok. hope you understand buddy. ;)

otits :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 12:15:36 AM

Quote from: Marsing on June 14, 2014, 10:03:38 AM
You already know the answer, puzzle make it funny ;)

oh! :o :D

Actually it is not actually a puzzle anymore cause i already revealed it many times, they just don't notice it and maybe they really don't know it because they are not doing the experiment assignment. ;D

Or there are already here got it already, they just pretend not knowing it and become greedy and liar and mark my word for it. ;) ;D [size=78%] [/size]

Let say for example when i said extra wire, of course when there is a collapsing there is an extra energy collapsing also isn't it. that's really very simple. 8)
And when there is extra energy of course there are lots of things affected.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 12:29:42 AM

Quote from: wattsup on June 13, 2014, 12:07:27 PM
@Teets

Just so we are very clear without any misunderstandings.

Eating a bucket of beans to produce methane does not count as OU.

wattsup

Well sir that's clear :) , since you tell about the beans i'll try that also if it can produce lots of methane. ;)

I am actually planning to collect fart from school, church or everywhere to see if it can make an explosion. :D :D :D joke
and i just found out that eating camote is an advantage. :D :D :D :D joke

by the way methane is already in use in indonesia currently. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 01:25:42 AM

Quote from: Les Banki on June 09, 2014, 11:25:53 PM
Tito,

No offense but I don't think you have read and UNDERSTOOD that article!

Further, you are mixing your religion (like you have done right through most of your posts from virtually day one!) into this.

Let me just say that I am NOT interested in ANY religion but you obviously don't know the difference between religion and SPIRITUALITY!
In any case, this is NOT the tread to discuss health, death, religion or spirituality.

Do yourself a favor and read the article I have attached.
However, be warned that it might destroy your religious fanaticism!

Cheers,
Les Banki

You know what?, everything is relative to each other. :o 8) ;D
it is so sad that you are not interested in any religion, well that is your belief and i'll respect that.

Everything can be discuss here for just a moment of time to complete the understanding.

Don't worry cause nothing can separate me from the love of JESUS: Hebrew

No!, it is not fanatism it is FAITH! ;) :)

You, you don't understand the difference between fanatism and FAITH! :P
RELIGION AND SPIRITUALITY THEY ARE RELATED AND RELATIVE WITH EACH OTHER. :)

For me its like recipee, if you want the good taste, you have to mix different things to accomplish this. understand? :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 16, 2014, 05:42:37 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 12:15:36 AM

Let say for example when i said extra wire, of course when there is a collapsing there is an extra energy collapsing also isn't it. that's really very simple. 8)
And when there is extra energy of course there are lots of things affected.

Dear Tito
Do you mean making a coil consisting of many insulated wires together?

Do you have anything to propose for experimentation?

Tnks Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on June 16, 2014, 07:29:51 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 15, 2014, 11:48:43 PM

Yes off course but Tito L. Oracion is not my name.
That's why google made me laugh when he is looking for a patents of my relative's inventions. bwa hahahahhahahhahahahahhahahha ;D What a poor logic. :D

Tito L. Oracion actually is one of the head cutters unshown in mindanao.
That's why i advise google to not forget bring home his head when he found Tito L. Oracion. ;D bwahahahahahhahahhahaahaha.

For security reason i cannot give you my account in FB ok. hope you understand buddy. ;)

otits :-*

Haha i thought it was your real name.. ;D
I was intrigue in you on what kind of person really you are and what are your looks. ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 16, 2014, 07:45:55 AM

Tito you reminded me Steven Mark when he was saying that if we pass a magnet across a wire, then a current will be induced on this wire. If we put 1000 wires in parallel, then 1000Xcurrent will be induced...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 08:14:14 AM

Quote from: Jeg on June 16, 2014, 07:45:55 AM
Tito you reminded me Steven Mark when he was saying that if we pass a magnet across a wire, then a current will be induced on this wire. If we put 1000 wires in parallel, then 1000Xcurrent will be induced...

Yes! that is very correct. and from that technique we can start our device. :) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 08:35:57 AM

Quote from: Jeg on June 16, 2014, 05:42:37 AM
Dear Tito
Do you mean making a coil consisting of many insulated wires together?

Do you have anything to propose for experimentation?

Tnks Jeg

ok here is our experiment project, very simple very easy to think and very easy to do and everything is accessible.

Let say we have two batteries 1 and 2 then battery 1 charges battery 2 then battery 2 charges battery 1 then make a parallel connection from the two battery and connect an inverter, i believe this will last longer isn't it? :D

well, our project is not limited to two batteries we can add more.

Note: efficient charger is what we really need to make our system more effective. :)

A variation in three batteries maybe we can charge battery 2 and 3 in parallel by battery 1 then charging battery 1 and 3 in parallel also by battery 2 then charging battery 1 and 2 by battery 3 then get a parallel connection of the three battery and feed it to an inverter.

Well, this is just an experiment, do it at your own risk, i'm NOT liable to everything
just giving you an idea to experiment. :) :D >:( [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 16, 2014, 08:51:18 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 08:14:14 AM

Yes! that is very correct. and from that technique we can start our device. :) 8)

Many thanks Tito! It is a really good start.

At your battery experiment, what you actually propose is to charge a battery in series from an other battery and then connect them both in parallel for supplying something?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 08:56:45 AM

Quote from: Neo-X on June 16, 2014, 07:29:51 AM
Haha i thought it was your real name.. ;D
I was intrigue in you on what kind of person really you are and what are your looks. ::)

off course not! :o , there are real killings in this industry of free energy, do you think i will give or show my real identity in front of this killers? ;D oh what a fool am i if i do that. :D

That's why i have to rent different computers so that they can't tract me down. bwahahahahahhahahhahaha ;D

And we're lucky cause there are lots of malls in our country, lots of computer shops. ;D

Well, i'm just 26 years old 5' 6" in height and 75kilogram and little bit handsome with asthma sometimes. ;D but i warned you don't believe in me sometimes cause there are killers there ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 09:01:25 AM

Quote from: Jeg on June 16, 2014, 08:51:18 AM
Many thanks Tito! It is a really good start.

At your battery experiment, what you actually propose is to charge a battery in series from an other battery and then connect them both in parallel for supplying something?

yes, cause the work of the two battery refuses the dipole to die. but the reality will still reveal what will happen.

AND THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE IT FOREVER!. ;D 8) [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 16, 2014, 09:15:25 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 09:01:25 AM

AND THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE IT FOREVER!. ;D 8) [size=78%] [/size]

By loading with the batteries a coil like you described consisted of many parallel wires and feeding back the extra energy??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 09:15:54 AM

ONE MORE THING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

I WANT TO SHARE A READY MADE CHIP THAT CANNOT USUALLY BUY AT THE ELECTRONIC SHOP BUT VERY AVAILABLE IN ALMOST ANY AUTO SHOP.

AND THAT IS ALTERNATORS REGULATOR. THIS THING IS GOOD, IT HAS ALSO A LAMP INDICATOR IF BATTERY IS CHARGING.

IMAGINE THERE IS MORE THAN 120V AC IN AN ALTERNATOR.

REALLY NICE CHIP :) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 09:21:13 AM

Quote from: Jeg on June 16, 2014, 09:15:25 AM
By loading with the batteries a coil like you described consisted of many parallel wires and feeding back the extra energy??

Well, let us to see our brilliant minds how to do it. ;D

bye and happy experimenting.

God bless buddy. ;)

Otit l. noicaro :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 16, 2014, 09:24:45 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 09:21:13 AM

Well, let us to see our brilliant minds how to do it. ;D

bye and happy experimenting.

God bless buddy. ;)

Otit l. noicaro :-*

Bless u2 my friend, thanks for everything! ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ALTECHLAB on June 16, 2014, 09:57:09 AM

some decision in Akula device but not exact...we have some ideas even but so far from practical usage (www.altechlaboratory.com)...in case we confirm OU effect in bifilar models we will show demo model..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Neo-X on June 16, 2014, 11:33:58 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 08:56:45 AM

off course not! :o , there are real killings in this industry of free energy, do you think i will give or show my real identity in front of this killers? ;D oh what a fool am i if i do that. :D

That's why i have to rent different computers so that they can't tract me down. bwahahahahahhahahhahaha ;D

And we're lucky cause there are lots of malls in our country, lots of computer shops. ;D

Well, i'm just 26 years old 5' 6" in height and 75kilogram and little bit handsome with asthma sometimes. ;D but i warned you don't believe in me sometimes cause there are killers there ;D

So shouldn't I also believe in this "Well, i'm just 26 years old 5' 6" in height and 75kilogram and little bit handsome" ;D
If your 26 now how old did you married? I think im jelous in you because you already find your girl at a very young age. :-[

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 16, 2014, 01:17:02 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 09:15:54 AM
ONE MORE THING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

I WANT TO SHARE A READY MADE CHIP THAT CANNOT USUALLY BUY AT THE ELECTRONIC SHOP BUT VERY AVAILABLE IN ALMOST ANY AUTO SHOP.

AND THAT IS ALTERNATORS REGULATOR. THIS THING IS GOOD, IT HAS ALSO A LAMP INDICATOR IF BATTERY IS CHARGING.

IMAGINE THERE IS MORE THAN 120V AC IN AN ALTERNATOR.

REALLY NICE CHIP :) ;)

Hey Teets! Thanks for the chip tip :)
Here's one: http://www.premier-electric.com/files/STM/pdf/1407.pdf (http://www.premier-electric.com/files/STM/pdf/1407.pdf)
Interesting data sheet says it includes a zener.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 08:46:50 PM

Quote from: Neo-X on June 16, 2014, 11:33:58 AM

So shouldn't I also believe in this "Well, i'm just 26 years old 5' 6" in height and 75kilogram and little bit handsome" ;D
If your 26 now how old did you married? I think im jelous in you because you already find your girl at a very young age. :-[

Ya, right :D , as what i have said b4 there are killers there, i will not reveal any of my identity. ;) ;D
but that is just for my identity ok everything else is truth. :)

you are computing isn't it? don't continue cause you'll end up to a wrong answer. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 16, 2014, 10:26:53 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 09:01:25 AM

yes, cause the work of the two battery refuses the dipole to die. but the reality will still reveal what will happen.

AND THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE IT FOREVER!. ;D 8) [size=78%] [/size]

Her's how to do it. That's why I know Tito is telling the truth unlike the ignorant who unnecessarily criticize him.
I've replicated it.
It works.
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191514311A.pdf (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191514311A.pdf)

Look at the first paragraph on page 2 ......tum-ti-tum.....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 17, 2014, 12:10:03 AM

Hey Aking

Can you show the replication? I deleved into this sort of switching in simulator. In ideal world, the switching was able to move currents back and forth through the caps/batts with no losses. But as soon as you introduce a load in line, the voltage drop across the load screws everything up.

Even tried transformer loads with additional inductor in series on the sec, but that voltage division of any sort kills it. tried this, tried that.

So we are still back to what way to amplify energy. Not 'amplify' like an audio amplifier where there is no free lunch. There needs to be a key device that gives more than went in, simple as that.

Tito keeps saying more coils, more output. But how can they all add to the output from 1 input without increasing the input? Or by adding more coils(output I assume), do they not deplete the other coils of their output potential?

If not so, then it must be that each additional coil must be some distance away from the others as to not affect them.

For me, there is just not enough to go on yet. Have had to concentrate more on work. This was taking way too much of my time, so work suffered a bit. I had to change that. I hope it all works out some day. Cant say for sure if it will. Weve teased about 3 years. More like about 6.

Ill still be around a bit. Good luck. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on June 17, 2014, 02:32:54 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on June 16, 2014, 10:26:53 PM

Her's how to do it. That's why I know Tito is telling the truth unlike the ignorant who unnecessarily criticize him.
I've replicated it.
It works.
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191514311A.pdf (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191514311A.pdf)

Look at the first paragraph on page 2 ......tum-ti-tum.....

The problem is almost always in the difference of definitions of key words like power and energy, some people interchange them often some people only occasionally and some never. There are times when either power or energy can be used for example if we say the input is 1 watt for 1 hour we are talking energy but stating it with a power over time statement.

Also we can say the output is similar.

When problems arise is when people confuse the way the person intended the statement to read, no matter how it is written.

Also with translations power and energy may be mixed up.

Basically output energy is in Joules total or Joules/watts over time.

Input energy is in Joules or Joules/Watts over time.

Input and output power can be stated as 1 kw in and 2 kw out but with no mention of time it could be 1 kw for 1 hour input and 2 kw for 10 seconds output, obviously the input is less power than the output but the output is less energy than the input in that case.

Also sometimes people do make mistakes and say energy when they meant to say power.

If the Linked machine was OU then we would have seen a demonstration by now and if there is no demonstration, then someone saying it will output more energy than input should build it and show the extra energy. Whats to fear when it's already patented.

And claiming MIB BS is just ridiculous because when people claim to have OU they ought to be running the same risks as showing it, and take the same precautions. But no one is scared to say they have OU unless they actually did have it.

SO if Tito actually had OU and he believed in the MIB angle he would be too scared to even say he had OU. Logically people that claim to have OU but won't say how to get it because of MIB fears are full of BS because if they were in fear of the MIB they would not even say they had OU.

The MIB line is a cop out, if you have fears of the MIB then don't say you have an OU device because if you do you will draw suspicion. It's contradictory and contradictions means, things don't add up.

Tito should Marry Zilano, they are almost identical, or would he be marrying him/herself. hahahaha ;D ;D ;D

Sheez Louise.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on June 17, 2014, 10:41:30 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on June 16, 2014, 10:26:53 PM

Her's how to do it. That's why I know Tito is telling the truth unlike the ignorant who unnecessarily criticize him.
I've replicated it.
It works.
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191514311A.pdf (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191514311A.pdf)

Look at the first paragraph on page 2 ......tum-ti-tum.....

a.king21

Just curious, did you use one of these along with 14,311? Number 17,811 or 5591?

You know, a Benitez patent was one of the first I ever tried to replicate. Of course I failed then but now that I have studied a bunch of these old devices and studied the forums I think I actually understand these Benitez devices. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 17, 2014, 08:12:53 PM

Quote from: Cadman on June 17, 2014, 10:41:30 AM
a.king21

Just curious, did you use one of these along with 14,311? Number 17,811 or 5591?

You know, a Benitez patent was one of the first I ever tried to replicate. Of course I failed then but now that I have studied a bunch of these old devices and studied the forums I think I actually understand these Benitez devices. :)

I've dismantled my replication because it was not cost effective compared to solar panels.
Also I was concerned at the heavy "breathing of the car batteries when I upped the power draw to 300 watts.
I ran the device for a week with manual switching, always drawing 11 watts mains light and occasionally powering a 300 watt motor generator setup and occasionally powering a 12 volt car electric kettle. After a week the battery voltages were the same as at the start.
The key is what Benitez says. He is very clear.
I used 2 car batteries and two HGV batteries in my setup. I used a 20 watt 1:1 trafo and a motorized Tesla switch for the interrupter. The cap was a tiny 6kv cap.The circuit is the simplified one in Patrick kelly's book. I told him about my replication and he published the Benitez stuff. You need a big trafo or it won't work. Maybe a microwave oven trafo will work. You won't get a simulator to work because they can't simulate a spark gap or Tesla switch.

One more thing: Each switch of the interrupter generates a high mhz frequency. Your cap and trafo have to handle that to get the ou. Maybe a mot is too slow.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 17, 2014, 08:34:20 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 17, 2014, 12:10:03 AM
Hey Aking

Can you show the replication? I deleved into this sort of switching in simulator. In ideal world, the switching was able to move currents back and forth through the caps/batts with no losses. But as soon as you introduce a load in line, the voltage drop across the load screws everything up.

Even tried transformer loads with additional inductor in series on the sec, but that voltage division of any sort kills it. tried this, tried that.

So we are still back to what way to amplify energy. Not 'amplify' like an audio amplifier where there is no free lunch. There needs to be a key device that gives more than went in, simple as that.

Tito keeps saying more coils, more output. But how can they all add to the output from 1 input without increasing the input? Or by adding more coils(output I assume), do they not deplete the other coils of their output potential?

If not so, then it must be that each additional coil must be some distance away from the others as to not affect them.

For me, there is just not enough to go on yet. Have had to concentrate more on work. This was taking way too much of my time, so work suffered a bit. I had to change that. I hope it all works out some day. Cant say for sure if it will. Weve teased about 3 years. More like about 6.

Ill still be around a bit. Good luck. ;)

Mags

My advice is to read all the Benitez patents. The answers are all in there. I've spent hundreds of hours deciphering the old English. Benitez had 4 patents issued. In those days you had to show a working model.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 17, 2014, 09:13:31 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2014, 08:14:14 AM

Yes! that is very correct. and from that technique we can start our device. :) 8)

Yes! If one were to induce a potential difference into a coil consisting of parallel wires, each dumping into separate caps, which would in turn dump into a single capacitor and a few more in series... Wow, that would be quite the jolt of electricity, wouldn't it?

What if one had an antenna that was capable of powering a joule thief, and say.. a secondary from the joule thief kicking those parallel wires in the coil...
Doesn't have to be a JT; maybe just a computer fan.

Just thinkin' out loud.
Bob ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 17, 2014, 11:30:13 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 17, 2014, 12:10:03 AM

Weve teased about 3 years. More like about 6.

Mags

YOU ARE STARTING

AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

WHAT KIND OF KIND ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

WHAT DID I DO?, WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT AGAIN BRO? :(

AM I GOING TO STATE OR REPEAT ALL OF MY REASONS AGAIN?. :( :( :(

SO YOU MEAN UNTIL NOW YOU WERE BEING TEASED. YOU MEAN A BRILLIANT LIKE YOU BEEN TEASED FOR 3 OR 6 YEARS? :o WOW

YOU @#$@#$%#@$%#$%$%^% >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

It is so sad for me to see again this kind of attitude to destroy someone using this clever brilliant kind of thinking huh. :P
Conditioning every ones mind. A Judas attitude! >:(

WE ARE JUST THE SAME LEARNER HERE! I DID NOT PROMISE TO GIVE ALL DETAILS I'VE DISCOVERED! >:(

OK I'LL REPEAT THAT IS NOT TEASING THAT IS MY WAY OF TEACHING! GOT IT! >:( YOU @#$#@$ >:( >:( >:( [size=78%] [/size]

I THINK I'M OFF THE POP CORN :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 17, 2014, 11:52:07 PM

Quote from: Farmhand on June 17, 2014, 02:32:54 AM
The problem is almost always in the difference of definitions of key words like power and energy, some people interchange them often some people only occasionally and some never. There are times when either power or energy can be used for example if we say the input is 1 watt for 1 hour we are talking energy but stating it with a power over time statement.

Also we can say the output is similar.

When problems arise is when people confuse the way the person intended the statement to read, no matter how it is written.

Also with translations power and energy may be mixed up.

Basically output energy is in Joules total or Joules/watts over time.

Input energy is in Joules or Joules/Watts over time.

Input and output power can be stated as 1 kw in and 2 kw out but with no mention of time it could be 1 kw for 1 hour input and 2 kw for 10 seconds output, obviously the input is less power than the output but the output is less energy than the input in that case.

Also sometimes people do make mistakes and say energy when they meant to say power.

If the Linked machine was OU then we would have seen a demonstration by now and if there is no demonstration, then someone saying it will output more energy than input should build it and show the extra energy. Whats to fear when it's already patented.

And claiming MIB BS is just ridiculous because when people claim to have OU they ought to be running the same risks as showing it, and take the same precautions. But no one is scared to say they have OU unless they actually did have it.

SO if Tito actually had OU and he believed in the MIB angle he would be too scared to even say he had OU. Logically people that claim to have OU but won't say how to get it because of MIB fears are full of BS because if they were in fear of the MIB they would not even say they had OU.

The MIB line is a cop out, if you have fears of the MIB then don't say you have an OU device because if you do you will draw suspicion. It's contradictory and contradictions means, things don't add up.

Tito should Marry Zilano, they are almost identical, or would he be marrying him/herself. hahahaha ;D ;D ;D

Sheez Louise.

YOUR BRILLIANTLY FUNNY. :D

So you mean you don't believe on MIB's, :D so you don't have a news about some killed inventors? hmmmmm :o

You are very expert about energy and power description, but it seems that you don't know law in marrying. :D :o :P :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D

OFF THE POPCORN!!! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 18, 2014, 11:20:35 AM

Calm down Tito. Your tips are welcome. :)
Peace.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on June 18, 2014, 11:46:49 AM

I've noticed that if u pulse the sec side of a 220v - 24v volt trafo with a 12v 7ah battery using a relay, the back emf can even burn the wires. I tend to believe that the trafo converts it to high current low voltage. What do u people think?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on June 18, 2014, 12:33:27 PM

Maybe it helps if we look back to the path Tesla was on, before the Colorado Springs experiments.

Tesla: Notes on a Unipolar Dynamo
http://www.andrijar.com/teslahom/

He was interested in unipolar/Faraday generator, and for good reason. Instead of relying on changing fields, this generator produces power from a difference in reference frames, not by coils at all. It is an electrostatic generator, one that instead produced few volts with amazing amps.

So, in essence this generator uses a 'pressure difference', a difference in relative velocities, to generate power.

What if we could make this pressure difference without spinning the disk at all? ::)

I think Tito's devices work by creating these virtual pressures and harvesting power like a Faraday generator (short, thick wire).

Cheers all,
Rei

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on June 18, 2014, 02:04:49 PM

Quote from: Reiyuki on June 18, 2014, 12:33:27 PM
Maybe it helps if we look back to the path Tesla was on, before the Colorado Springs experiments.

Tesla: Notes on a Unipolar Dynamo
http://www.andrijar.com/teslahom/ (http://www.andrijar.com/teslahom/)

He was interested in unipolar/Faraday generator, and for good reason. Instead of relying on changing fields, this generator produces power from a difference in reference frames, not by coils at all. It is an electrostatic generator, one that instead produced few volts with amazing amps.

So, in essence this generator uses a 'pressure difference', a difference in relative velocities, to generate power.

What if we could make this pressure difference without spinning the disk at all? ::)

I think Tito's devices work by creating these virtual pressures and harvesting power like a Faraday generator (short, thick wire).

Cheers all,
Rei

doesn't matter if the magnet rotates...
http://www.animations.physics.unsw.edu.au/jw/homopolar.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on June 18, 2014, 05:44:24 PM

@Reiyuki. Tito's device and what you brought up here are not the same.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on June 18, 2014, 05:55:35 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on June 17, 2014, 08:12:53 PM

I've dismantled my replication because it was not cost effective compared to solar panels.
Also I was concerned at the heavy "breathing of the car batteries when I upped the power draw to 300 watts.
I ran the device for a week with manual switching, always drawing 11 watts mains light and occasionally powering a 300 watt motor generator setup and occasionally powering a 12 volt car electric kettle. After a week the battery voltages were the same as at the start.
The key is what Benitez says. He is very clear.
I used 2 car batteries and two HGV batteries in my setup. I used a 20 watt 1:1 trafo and a motorized Tesla switch for the interrupter. The cap was a tiny 6kv cap.The circuit is the simplified one in Patrick kelly's book. I told him about my replication and he published the Benitez stuff. You need a big trafo or it won't work. Maybe a microwave oven trafo will work. You won't get a simulator to work because they can't simulate a spark gap or Tesla switch.

This is why I don't like Benitez patents, it needs so much batteries. But how many trafos did u use? Why I like it is because it is a kind of replication to Tesla switch.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on June 18, 2014, 06:54:31 PM

Quote from: Leely on June 18, 2014, 05:44:24 PM
@Reiyuki. Tito's device and what you brought up here are not the same.

Completely agree. However, I now believe the principle of operation is the same (different reference frames generating voltage).

I think energy is extracted in the same way, but the driving methods are different. In a Faraday generator, velocity distorts one reference frame. Perpendular to a B field this creates voltage with a current that's limited only to the resistance of your circuit.

(Possibly) T's circuits create a distorted reference frame with opposing magnetic fields against a 90deg B field.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 18, 2014, 07:24:40 PM

I think i'm paid already ;)

and here is my bonus payment, whether you get it or not so be it.

free energy could get freely from nature all we need is to tap.

lets say for example when there is a twin tornado, those are very strong, what we only need is just a part of that energy. so we just make a tapping but in this design we really need a good spark gap from the atmosphere going to the ground. ;D

That's it so be it. :D

And GOODBYE!!!

YOU @#$@#$@#$@#$%$#%#$% >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 26, 2014, 01:31:04 PM

For what it's worth, folks:

QuoteIve noticed that every single "free energy" device embodies the same device at heart. They all need Hv pulsed dc, tesla coil, choke coil, some sort of resistance and some sort of capacitor. In every single device. Look at all of them one by one and look at how they really work. it all comes back to the same, for example the joule thiefs can be made using just a transistor and a bi filer toroid and aa battery. In this case the coil fills in more then one use, it is the coil, the resistance, and the capacitor. When you make larger devices the coils can no longer fill these places entirely so to resonate the way you want you have to add choke or resistor and capacitors.

With this knowledge getting coils in "resonance" is much easier to understand.
Once you understand the concepts from Tesla you can build much better versions from modern day parts. Source: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5096-no-electrolysis-water-split.html#post213110 (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5096-no-electrolysis-water-split.html#post213110)

I don't think this person's version (HV pulsed DC) is the only way, but thought I'd pass it along.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 26, 2014, 05:57:07 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on June 26, 2014, 01:31:04 PM
For what it's worth, folks:I don't think this person's version (HV pulsed DC) is the only way, but thought I'd pass it along.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2014, 02:12:21 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYUSj8qkon4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYUSj8qkon4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqU2BX1bIc4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqU2BX1bIc4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXV1rX-PvR0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXV1rX-PvR0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO7LIRhGbfo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO7LIRhGbfo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXtDChNB3gc

>:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 27, 2014, 08:55:26 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2014, 02:12:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYUSj8qkon4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYUSj8qkon4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqU2BX1bIc4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqU2BX1bIc4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXV1rX-PvR0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXV1rX-PvR0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO7LIRhGbfo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO7LIRhGbfo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXtDChNB3gc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXtDChNB3gc)

>:(

??? chain reaction
and?
games ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 27, 2014, 09:15:33 AM

We presume that we have to collect electrons from a source, but if we have a finite amount of electrons in a system can we just accelerate the electrons into a higher energy state.
If we take a gyroscope and spin it at 3600rpm or spin it at 10,000 rpm, the latter has not added more gyroscopes but is running in a higher energy state, therefor delivers more power.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on June 27, 2014, 12:57:34 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 29, 2008, 03:58:25 AM[/font]Please share any real working schemATIC, techniques, videos, pictures here. EVERYBODY IS WELCOME!!!Discussion is good but working device is what we need ;) Beneficiary => everyone, earth.I believe this is the purpose of this forum is to share real working device.God Bless,otit

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Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 08, 2009, 09:10:18 PM[/font] I give it a Zero. It's pretty clear that the presenter doesn't understand basic electricity or electronics.

Why are you posting such drivel here? I thought my plan will work, its just my belief that my idea will help and if my presentation made you feel bad sorry for that.Many times i need to read and understand the whole book before i make may comments to really know what it wants me to see ok ;) JUST FORGET THIS THREAD ITS USELESS.anyway thankyou for response :) REMEMBER ALL I WANT IS TO HELP IN MY LITTLE MICRO FARAD.thanks for some who says this idea is great ;) bye i'm off the popcorn like mr borg says ;D god blessotit

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Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 08, 2009, 09:10:18 PM[/font] I give it a Zero. It's pretty clear that the presenter doesn't understand basic electricity or electronics.

Why are you posting such drivel here? I thought my plan will work, its just my belief that my idea will help and if my presentation made you feel bad sorry for that.Many times i need to read and understand the whole book before i make may comments to really know what it wants me to see ok ;) JUST FORGET THIS THREAD ITS USELESS.anyway thankyou for response :) REMEMBER ALL I WANT IS TO HELP IN MY LITTLE MICRO FARAD.thanks for some who says this idea is great ;) bye i'm off the popcorn like mr borg says ;D god blessotit

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Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 08, 2009, 09:10:18 PM[/font] I give it a Zero. It's pretty clear that the presenter doesn't understand basic electricity or electronics.

Why are you posting such drivel here? I thought my plan will work, its just my belief that my idea will help and if my presentation made you feel bad sorry for that.Many times i need to read and understand the whole book before i make may comments to really know what it wants me to see ok ;) JUST FORGET THIS THREAD ITS USELESS.anyway thankyou for response :) REMEMBER ALL I WANT IS TO HELP IN MY LITTLE MICRO FARAD.thanks for some who says this idea is great ;) bye i'm off the popcorn like mr borg says ;D god blessotit

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Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 16, 2009, 06:40:41 AM[/font]Hi ACI think you really can't understand me for now cause i'm doing some unconventional thing and i have great advancement currently. my brother prohibit me to tell everything sorry, for safety reason. TPU is so very easy now if you know the unconventional technique, since tpu is made from uncomventional way why everybody don't study the wierd things? the answer is there!I understand what you mean but you don't know what i mean. sorry :( Amplify power unconventionally is what i am is doing right now. and i have succeeded on that, im telling you the circuit is very easy. 8) The conventional is, what is in is what is out and sometimes out is smaller than in and i'm tired of that. but there is a good news there is a circuit that can bring out bigger than in! julethief thread is near but not the perfect solution sorry. THat's all for now, sometime i'll make a video of my developments. :) TESLA IS GREAT AND GENIOUS !!! :o God blessThank you

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Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 01, 2009, 03:59:21 AM[/font]@roomYes i will sir, i'm not just satisfied with the power i am getting, i am currently workin on it, i am adding thorated tungsten in my spark gap, i will post them as i finished it. I have success about the Tom bearden's degenerated conductor, i will post them soon.

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Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 17, 2009, 08:59:01 PM[/font]Hi Master bruce, you're absolutely right!!!we're lucky to have you here sir :) i beleive i have rediscovered it sir! your talking about the PDF, can you share it here SIR ::) actually, i have a working device already and i am really want to see other's designtake note i'm using only a vibrator relay!if the congress will agree then i will post the real thing here !!! Please don't mail a threat you make me nervous it's for the world!!!god blessotits ;D

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Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 17, 2009, 06:19:00 AM[/font]hi everyone good day ! :) The first time i join this site, i am so eager to give everything i have but i was disappointed when i read many post of clues and hints, i thought this site is really meant for sharing but i just found out that they can't really share the real thing, For me if its for the good of mankind and heal the world and for our children WHY NOT SHARE? I BELIEVE THAT IF THERE'S A WILL THERE'S ALWAYS A WAY RIGHT?Now I stand challenging every knowledgeable person to share the real thing.Take a look at the mirror if your really a man with dignity and courage and if you can defeat the man in front of you then there will call you a real hero of the world and God knows that!God bless you, hope that it make sense to everyone byeany comments are accepted but i will not answer sorry i don't want senseless discussion anymore thank you, all i want is for good nothing more.For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jn 3:16Your Brother in ChristTito L. Oracion

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Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 27, 2009, 08:06:40 PM[/font]Hi everyone good day !!! ;D I have made it perfectly but the problem is my country does'nt want to support me about my discovery or what ever it may be to call.so i am forced to hide it to everyone.and from there i am just using my free energy to make money by selling ice or ice cubes and and laundry services. sorry everyone! you have to understand :) God bless otits

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Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 27, 2009, 11:41:52 PM[/font]hi jerryyour looking for a readily available liquid nitrogen, hmmm, actually i'm using fertilizer in my car!

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Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 28, 2009, 06:31:54 PM[/font]well, partly you are correct but there is still missing, the technique of using other coil making a kick without using any current from the input and that makes excess or unlimited energy. and i got this technique in henderson file.my device is a combination of tom bearden, henderson and bedini. sorry i'll be busy now, i cannot respond always.God blessotits

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Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 02, 2009, 07:57:37 AM[/font]hi sir good daywell sir that is just a wild advise, because tpu the way i see it is an old topic that wasting precious time of its fans, well i'm one of them ;D but sometimes, for me it is better to do some work originated by yourself because it gives a better pleasure. :) i even made a tpu version of mine, well it works but its too much complicated and i believe sm's design is not the same as mine. because my tpu works even in inverted position ;D i don't know why? lol ;D ;D ;D

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Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 09, 2009, 06:55:01 PM[/font]hi everyone good day!history repeat itself.its a fake revelation!!!they are just looking for some new info to tackle with ok, nothings new, everything is repeating, better to do your own. ;D even them, they don't have real one!!!! hahahahahahahathough not like sm design, at least mine is working. 8)

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These were HIS statements 5 years ago. Still no drawings, schematics, input/output data, photos, nothing. But there are a lot of people here still following this lying idiot. WAKE UP. Read all of his posts. Ask him some questions. See what you get. He is a fake. He knows nothing. He has nothing. He just likes to feed you with his bull to get attention.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 27, 2014, 03:39:34 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2014, 02:12:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYUSj8qkon4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYUSj8qkon4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqU2BX1bIc4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqU2BX1bIc4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXV1rX-PvR0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXV1rX-PvR0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO7LIRhGbfo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO7LIRhGbfo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXtDChNB3gc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXtDChNB3gc)
>:(

Tito, you've been gracious enough to contniue trying to each us, and I appreciate you not giving up on us despite some of the abuse you've been handed. A number of us continue to believe there is something relevant and important here. I'm not sure why others even bother. But the internet's still a free country...

Anyway, imagine if only half, or even a quarter of the energy from each part of the chain reactions linked above were passed on to the next reaction. The kick, kick, kick would get larger and stronger, would it not?
Does this have something to do with charging in parallel and discharging in series? I'm not sure. I think making this happen has something to do with diode placement. I need to go back thru the thread to get clues and read. Will post what I find soon.

Take care, Teets!
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2014, 08:53:08 PM

Quote from: MrMag on June 27, 2014, 12:57:34 PM

These were HIS statements 5 years ago. Still no drawings, schematics, input/output data, photos, nothing. But there are a lot of people here still following this lying idiot. WAKE UP. Read all of his posts. Ask him some questions. See what you get. He is a fake. He knows nothing. He has nothing. He just likes to feed you with his bull to get attention.

I just showed a video and attack me a lot. :o :o :o ??? ??? ??? :-\ :-\ :-\

I think you know something about the secret and you know that the video i showed are very relevant to the secret. hmmmm :D

So, you do not want others to discover the secret isn't it. ;D

and your way of suppression is to destroy me isn't it? . Where is your conscience. :)

Its like saying to everyone that they should not believe in me cause i'm an idiot isn't it ;D bwahahahahahhahahahha

i will not bother myself to you anymore now that i know you! >:( >:( >:( :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2014, 08:58:45 PM

Again hey!!!! i just showed a video.

i actually don't want replying here anymore cause they made me mad >:( >:( >:( >:( [size=78%].[/size]

I JUST SHOWED A VIDEO NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS !!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( GOT IT!

YOU %$^&*^&*^&*(&*(^&^%&$%^#$%#@ >:( >:( >:( LOL

:-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 27, 2014, 09:18:23 PM

Tito:

Quotechain reaction
and?

And what? Can you explain how a mousetrap works in terms of energy? Can you give us an equivalent electrical circuit for a mousetrap? What are we supposed to learn from the mousetrap, and what are we supposed to learn from the chain of mousetraps?

MileHigh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 28, 2014, 12:22:38 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2014, 08:58:45 PM
Again hey!!!! i just showed a video.

i actually don't want replying here anymore cause they made me mad >:( >:( >:( >:( [size=78%].[/size]

I JUST SHOWED A VIDEO NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS !!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( GOT IT!

YOU %$^&*^&*^&*(&*(^&^%&$%^#$%#@ >:( >:( >:( LOL

:-*

It would be nice if you could post a picture of one of your devices. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 28, 2014, 08:02:22 AM

Quote from: MileHigh on June 27, 2014, 09:18:23 PM
Tito:

And what? Can you explain how a mousetrap works in terms of energy? Can you give us an equivalent electrical circuit for a mousetrap? What are we supposed to learn from the mousetrap, and what are we supposed to learn from the chain of mousetraps?

MileHigh

;D Hey MH, long time no argue roflmao
8)

Bob
I did a search on charging in parallel and discharging in series the only thing I could find is the Marx generator, interesting how it works, could this circuit be set up in a chain reaction.

If anyone has a schematic of "charging in parallel and discharging in series" could you please upload it. A DC based circuit is preferred to study the concept, just a generic simple circuit would suffice.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 28, 2014, 08:27:08 AM

Hey Dave,
I remember someone posting one of Tesla's drawings from a patent that showed caps charging in parallel, and diodes placed between them. My impression was that this was important. I remember after the post, Tito commented something to the effect, "It's getting warm in here, goodbye", meaning we were on to something... It must be after page 50, I just haven't been able to find it, but it was at least 2 years ago, I believe. I think at that point, I mentioned something about this arrangement in the thread and someone else responded about charging in parallel and discharging in series. Just haven't found it again.
Gotta go see the farmer up the road about some eggs...
Have a good one!
Bob

Edit: Maybe it's even simpler. See this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnsSRW7JqQA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnsSRW7JqQA)
Now I'm really going to get the eggs. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: GT899 on June 28, 2014, 04:19:58 PM

I do not know if this pdf is of any consequence to what is being discovered here with capacitors. It is interesting though as it explains charging capacitors in parallel while discharging them in series with the load will show different results.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 28, 2014, 06:35:27 PM

Matthew Jones posted this schematic over at EF
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/16696-cap-dump-circuit-7.html#post257403
This circuit collects pos and neg bemf---------charge separation ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 28, 2014, 06:39:52 PM

Quote from: GT899 on June 28, 2014, 04:19:58 PM
I do not know if this pdf is of any consequence to what is being discovered here with capacitors. It is interesting though as it explains charging capacitors in parallel while discharging them in series with the load will show different results.

Thanks GT reading it now.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 29, 2014, 09:30:39 AM

Yeah Dave:

QuoteAnd because of the near stress on both plates you get dielectric charging. So with a 20k uf cap rated at 100 volt it takes about 6 pulses on each coil to hit 28 -30 vdc. Each pulse (In my setup) being .4 joule input + transient spike. 20k uf cap at 30 volt is 9 joules. 12 x .4 is about 4.8 joules. So a 2x gain +-.

Yeah I am laughing my ass off too and rolling around.

MileHigh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 29, 2014, 09:49:43 AM

Quote from: MileHigh on June 29, 2014, 09:30:39 AM
Yeah Dave:

Yeah I am laughing my ass off too and rolling around.

MileHigh

Well hell MH thats because you have no foresight everyone knows that. lol

So tell me MH whats the going rate these days for a disinformant, is it really worth it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 29, 2014, 09:52:35 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on June 28, 2014, 08:02:22 AM

If anyone has a schematic of "charging in parallel and discharging in series" could you please upload it. A DC based circuit is preferred to study the concept, just a generic simple circuit would suffice.

Hey Dave, long time to see u! Check my proposals at threads 5900 and 5909 at page 394. If you like redraw it with your design software.
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 29, 2014, 09:55:12 AM

Just kidden MH you know I love ya brother, if you werent around I wouldnt have anyone to argue with.

Will the circuit go ou ?
Probably not
Its still pulling from the battery
You have to give it a source besides the battery

Hmmm lets see if we ionize the air around the coils, keeping to the proper polarity's ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 29, 2014, 10:47:05 AM

Hey Jeg there's no switch between pos and ground through the coil.
Looks like switch B will charge C1 then switch A will discharge C1 but C2 and pos terminal will take the hit.
Just my take there are those that are more qualified to read the circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 29, 2014, 11:26:53 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on June 29, 2014, 10:47:05 AM
Hey Jeg there's no switch between pos and ground through the coil.
Looks like switch B will charge C1 then switch A will discharge C1 but C2 and pos terminal will take the hit.
Just my take there are those that are more qualified to read the circuit.

When switch B is activated then C1 will be charged while the same time the other cap is charging straight from the DC pwr supply. When Switch A is activated then both caps are in series and both voltages in sum exceed the threshold point of zener and discharge through coil. Power supply can not be harmed due to diodes.
At least this is the main concept. Perhaps mosfets have to be substituted with relays or thyristors.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 29, 2014, 11:38:30 AM

Hey Jeg you may be right, just my take.
Give it a shot, let us know how it works out.
I hope it works "charging in parallel and discharging in series" has me stumped.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 29, 2014, 11:46:19 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on June 29, 2014, 11:38:30 AM
Hey Jeg you may be right, just my take.
Give it a shot, let us know how it works out.
I hope it works "charging in parallel and discharging in series" has me stumped.

I will report on this when i'll find some time to play around. In the meanwhile, if anyone will find other way please share it.
Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on June 29, 2014, 08:36:21 PM

Quote from: Jeg on June 29, 2014, 11:46:19 AM
I will report on this when i'll find some time to play around. In the meanwhile, if anyone will find other way please share it.
Thanks

'Charging in parallel, discharge in series' is talking about the coils more than the caps.

Two identical coils are energized in parallel (opposed bucking configuration).
Two other coils in series provide the output. All on the same core.

The opposed coils creates the compression field, series output provides the bias field and output.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 29, 2014, 11:56:15 PM

Quote from: Reiyuki on June 29, 2014, 08:36:21 PM

'Charging in parallel, discharge in series' is talking about the coils more than the caps.

Two identical coils are energized in parallel (opposed bucking configuration).
Two other coils in series provide the output. All on the same core.

The opposed coils creates the compression field, series output provides the bias field and output.

Yes! Each of the wires wound parallel in the coil is energized by a pulse. The more wires in parallel energized by the pulse, the greater the sum voltage. What do you think, Reiyuki -
- are the 2 ends of each parallel wire fed into an Avramenko plug,
- or might one end of each parallel wire be left open as a kind of antenna, while the other end leads to a diode and then joined with other parallel wires, dumping into a series discharge arrangement (coils/caps)?
- or perhaps some other variation?
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on June 30, 2014, 01:12:52 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on June 29, 2014, 11:56:15 PMYes! Each of the wires wound parallel in the coil is energized by a pulse. The more wires in parallel energized by the pulse, the greater the sum voltage. What do you think, Reiyuki -

Don't think about it as energizing with normal transformer inductance. The opposed EM pulse is the energizing event. I may just be misunderstanding your depiction.

Quote- are the 2 ends of each parallel wire fed into an Avramenko plug

Good call! I was thinking of using Avramenko plug to accurately measure the unipolar charge. Tip:Grounding gives much more power but ungrounded is more accurate.

Quote
- or might one end of each parallel wire be left open as a kind of antenna, while the other end leads to a diode and then joined with other parallel wires, dumping into a series discharge arrangement (coils/caps)?
- or perhaps some other variation?

Maybe? The single 'antenna' wire with diode attached is a really good idea for extraction.

It all depends on the coil configuration. As Tito said, 'the manyer the coil the better'. Many coils on the output. You'll know it's working when shorting one output coil boosts power output on the others.

Again, take my thoughts with grains of salt, I'm still learning this stuff myself.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 30, 2014, 08:27:19 AM

Quote from: Reiyuki on June 30, 2014, 01:12:52 AM
Don't think about it as energizing with normal transformer inductance. The opposed EM pulse is the energizing event. I may just be misunderstanding your depiction.

Good point - Tito did mention RE. I envisioned a circular wound bundle of parallel coils with another coil wound perpendicularly. The perpendicular coil would be energized by a pulse from something like a JT or 555 timer switch or even a cap. So yes, as you say, what we take from the parallel coils is going to be the inductive kickback opposing the energizing pulse.

QuoteGood call! I was thinking of using Avramenko plug to accurately measure the unipolar charge. Tip:Grounding gives much more power but ungrounded is more accurate.

Yes, Tito seems to favour Moray's antenna and virtual ground method. As for the AV plug, it's worth a try. Or the antenna wire with diode at the end (below) might work as well.

QuoteMaybe? The single 'antenna' wire with diode attached is a really good idea for extraction.

Again, Tito's references to Moray was my thought here. I also thought about a kind of Litz wire config, where the separate coils of same length are tinned and soldered together at both ends. That way, one end is the antenna, and the other has a diode, or if you like, both ends lead to the AV plug, or again, keeping each coil separate with its own diode, all tied together at the distal end of the diode leading into the series arrangement of coils (the proximal end could be tied together into an antenna. - I think there are a few different ways to skin this cat, and only experimenting will tell which is best.

QuoteIt all depends on the coil configuration. As Tito said, 'the manyer the coil the better'. Many coils on the output. You'll know it's working when shorting one output coil boosts power output on the others.

Yes, I think we're looking at two things here. Many parallel coils on the first part of the device are going to give us an increased input voltage. If we discharge what comes out of this part into series-arranged, series-wound flat bifilar (pancake) coils, each with their relatively high capacitance (relative to the parallel coils) will discharge to produce a higher voltage.

Now here's a twist. Forest mentioned discharging into a high inductance, low resistance coil in another thread. I surmised this to be a thick copper wire coil (e.g., 10 or 12 AWG or 1/4 inch copper tubing) with a large number of windings (say, 20+). My thinking was that this might increase the amperage and drop the voltage to a more useable level.

QuoteAgain, take my thoughts with grains of salt, I'm still learning this stuff myself.

That makes the 2 of us, and Tito's been a very patient teacher. He's brought a number of us a long way along.

Take care,
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 30, 2014, 09:28:44 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on June 30, 2014, 08:27:19 AM

Now here's a twist. Forest mentioned discharging into a high inductance, low resistance coil in another thread.

Tesla Quote on High frequencies high Currents

'' If you pass a current into a circuit with LARGE self-induction and no radiation takes place, and you have LOW resistance, there is no possibility of this energy getting out into space, therefore THE IMPRESSED IMPULSES ACCUMULATE..''

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on June 30, 2014, 10:04:54 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on June 30, 2014, 08:27:19 AM

I also thought about a kind of Litz wire config, where the separate coils of same length are tinned and soldered together at both ends.

I am currently experimenting on this. I made a TPU like transformer, with a LITZ wire secondary (inner core) and a self oscillator wrapped on this inner coil. Litz has at least 100 wires, all short circuited at the ends. For sure there are some unique futures in an arrangement like this, but i haven;t compare it yet with a same transformer with just one solid wire as a secondary core. But, until now what i see is
A) a transformer in which the secondary doesn't affect primary's resonance as they are perpendicular between each other so very easy tunning..., and
B) Radiant energy is so intense that i can light a bulb where ever i attach it on the insulated transformer!

Primary's freq=27MHz 200V and so the secondary as it is only two turns.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 30, 2014, 10:40:55 AM

Jeg,
Thanks very much for sharing your results. It looks like things are starting to take shape.

Here is one simple vid on making Litz wire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWL8qGCeTJA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWL8qGCeTJA) (slow-moving, but good results)
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on June 30, 2014, 06:29:41 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2014, 08:53:08 PM

I just showed a video and attack me a lot. :o :o :o ??? ??? ??? :-\ :-\ :-\

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WHERE IS YOUR VIDEO?

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2014, 08:53:08 PM[/font]

I think you know something about the secret and you know that the video i showed are very relevant to the secret. hmmmm :D

[/font]
NO. I DON'T KNOW THE 'SECRET' BUT NEITHER DO YOU. AT LEAST I ADMIT THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT. UNLIKE ALL OF YOUR FREE ENERGY DEVICES.

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2014, 08:53:08 PM[/font]

So, you do not want others to discover the secret isn't it. ;D

[/font]

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERYONE DISCOVER THE SECRET, EVEN YOU! IF YOU KNOW THE SECRET, SHARE IT ! DON'T JUST GIVE YOUR CRAP

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2014, 08:53:08 PM[/font]

and your way of suppression is to destroy me isn't it? . Where is your conscience. :)

[/font]

I AM NOT SUPPRESSING ANYTHING AND YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB OF DESTROYING YOURSELF. IF YOU HAVE FREE ENERGY AND ARE NOT SHARING IT, YOU ARE THE SUPPRESSOR, RIGHT?

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2014, 08:53:08 PM[/font]

Its like saying to everyone that they should not believe in me cause i'm an idiot isn't it ;D bwahahahahahhahahahha

[/font]

EXACTLY, I THINK YOU ARE AN IDIOT. IF EVERYONE HERE WOULD READ YOUR POSTS, THEY WOULD AGREE

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2014, 08:53:08 PM[/font]

i will not bother myself to you anymore now that i know you! >:( >:( >:( :P

YEAH, THE TRUTH HURTS DOESN'T IT. WHY DON'T YOU MAKE A VIDEO OF ONE OF THE MANY DEVICES YOU HAVE. TAKE SOME PICTURES AND POST THEM. I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN YOUR SM DEVICE.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on June 30, 2014, 06:49:31 PM

Quote from: MrMag on June 30, 2014, 06:29:41 PM
(Derogatory rambling against Tito)

MrMag,

First, there's a capslock key on the left side of your keyboard. Use it, or else you'll tend to be seen as a jerk.

Next, don't expect to get any useful info with that attitude. Unless you're looking to start fights, in which case, keep it private.

Tito has over 200 posts on this forum. He has contributed tons of useful info and owes you nothing.

If you're honestly looking for help in building devices, ask away and I'll help as best I can. If not, leave.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on June 30, 2014, 11:22:30 PM

Quote from: Reiyuki on June 30, 2014, 06:49:31 PM
MrMag,

First, there's a capslock key on the left side of your keyboard. Use it, or else you'll tend to be seen as a jerk.

Next, don't expect to get any useful info with that attitude. Unless you're looking to start fights, in which case, keep it private.

Tito has over 200 posts on this forum. He has contributed tons of useful info and owes you nothing.

If you're honestly looking for help in building devices, ask away and I'll help as best I can. If not, leave.

So by using uppercase I will look like a jerk. So maybe it's better doing this. ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-\ :-\ :( :( >:( >:( ;D ;D ;D ;D Then I won't look stupid.
yeah, he has 200 posts of crap. he brags about having devices but is never willing to show anything have you ever seen a picture of his device, a video, anything.
no, and you never will. he is full of crap but some people who do not know electronics very well look at him as some kind of a hero.
just go back and read his posts. then maybe you will learn something.
I think you mean that he has contributed tons of useless information.

But please don't listen to me. Just ask him about one of his devices that he brags about. He doesn't have to give the schematics or explain anything. just some photos and a video of it running and doing something. But I know what he will say, the same thing he always says, "I was going to put up a video of my working free energy device but this guy made me mad so forget it. I'm gone and will not come back". (at least for a couple of days).

I am not a trouble maker or shit disturber, I just call out the fakes who want attention. This guy loves a following and from what I see he has one.
I will not post again here since there is some useful discussions going on and I hate to break the train of thought. But please take what he says with a grain of salt. He knows nothing.
READ HIS POSTS!!!!!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on July 01, 2014, 01:21:06 AM

Oh well, at least you inspired me to commit my own thoughts to paper. So thanks for that ;D 8)

(see attached)

Forgive the presentation, I'm a big fan of function before form. Hopefully everyone can understand the principle.

Reading and understanding this helped me immensely:
Tesla's Notes on a Unipolar Dynamo
http://www.andrijar.com/teslahom/ (http://www.andrijar.com/teslahom/)

If anyone has any questions, lemme know.

edit: Earth Ground please

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on July 02, 2014, 03:16:41 PM

Hello everybody,
I have been warring pretty heavily lately
Trying to tear down the evil spiritual resistance
That is covering this simple free energy generator
I believe that this is to keep this technology from becoming reality
the later that this is realized, the less likely for it to be around
in the Great Tribulation, when the Saints will need this technology
to cook their food, to light their Bible studies, + most importantly, to heat their homes,
this heat is especially needed for not only our bitter cold winters, but in all the other country near either of the poles

Canada day,
that seems like a great day to introduce this free energy generator,
that my Lord Shared with me, to this godless world.
This has been hidden for too long.

God has Shared this simple technology with me,
to share with our world.
Now I realize how hard that this will be to get them to listen,

considering the vast amount of evil influence that there is out there.
These fallen angels are attempting to hide this
super simple way of letting electricity multiply=generate itself.
God Shared this technology that has been hidden so long in the Bible,
under Ezekiel 1:16 "their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel. "
when speaking of how a UFO was powered
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

This simple technique consists of at least two pulleys,
one large and then the other ones are all small.

You only have to add very little power to a DC motor attached to a very large pulley.
The length of belt that is used in this experiment
- is the circumference of your large pulley,
as you are only putting enough DC electricity into this system to rotate your input motor once.
But though your pulley system you are gaining 30 revolutions of your AC generators, hence the free energy claim.

This technology is super simple, and should have been in use long ago,
as soon as we learned how to generate electricity in the first place.

This letter has two choirs to try to do for humanity,
reintroducing free energy to this world, and proving that God exists,
by showing how simplistic this is to build and operate,
because only evil forces could have kept this super simple way of gaining free energy,
by letting pulleys to multiply your rotations, which thereby multiplying your electricity.
You only put power into a DC motor for one rotation,(extremely little)
which has a large 100 cm circumference pulley attached to it.

This pulley has a belt that attaches it to one or more mini=pulleys with 10 cm circumference,
which rotates ten time for every single rotation of your input motor and pulley.
You have just created a ten power free energy generator,
and if you don't think that ten rotations of AC power will be enough to power you DC input motor,
then you can just add another small pulley, or maybe you want to ad ten of them,
so that you have made a thousand power generator .
These AC motors run extremely smooth and practically free of any torque.
You could have 10 – 30 AC generators attached to 1 cm circumference mini pulleys on the same belt.

This would only cost the minimal amount of DC electricity to turn the motor one rotation,
and you would gain 100 X 30 = 3000 AC power rotations out,
it must gain you much more electricity than it takes to power the one rotation of the DC motor.

this works, please build it
it is so simple to build
we can change the world
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

this is a Gift from our Father in Heaven
Please take Jesus into your heart and become Born Again NOW
(the generation that shall not pass, will pass before 2020)
http://doorschristmustpassthrough.yolasite.com/

If you would like to know where this one_christian_warrior is coming from
Please view http://beliefstoliveby.yolasite.com/

If you would like to know where that_prophet is getting to
Please view http://fire-starter.yolasite.com/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 02, 2014, 04:22:02 PM

Thanks for your perseverance, Prophet, in sharing your energy amplification contribution. I know you've had your share of derision for it. But holding in a fire can consume the messenger (Jer 20:7-9).
I was thinking that for AC motors, probably some small household fan motors or even a cheap coffee grinder might work. Should be able to pick one of these up for around $12 I would think.
Some of the objections to your setup revolved around drag from added generator motors, I think. Perhaps this could be overcome with a heavy enough "pulley" (i.e., flywheel) that could be spun up by hand and maintained by the motor driving it.

I think like you say on your website, the best way might be to start making a kind of toy setup for proof of concept, perhaps with:
- A small DC motor like the ones that Princess Auto Parts sells (www.princessauto.com (http://www.princessauto.com) put DC Motor into their search window)
- A small kids' bicycle wheel,
- Some surgical tubing from Lee Valley
- And your AC motors
- Battery

As you say, you'd need a resistive load. A voltage regulating system can come later.

Gotta get supper going.
All the best,
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 02, 2014, 07:55:42 PM

Bob, your post has cocked up my reply system. Your link is too long.
Your modification to that prophet's system makes it a Chas Campbell
setup which is different to That Prophet's idea.
FYI I'm acting as something of an adviser to Grumage's attempt at replicating the
Campbell system.

4th post down: Here we go - mythbusting or free energy.
One way or another we're gonna find out.
End of theory - time to go to work

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2527.msg39821#msg39821 (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2527.msg39821#msg39821)

NB Getting a gravity pulse was my first recommendation; The second was avoiding a
gravity short circuit by using slack pulleys.

There will be other amendments depending on success or lack of it.

Either way we're gonna put this baby to bed -one way or another.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 02, 2014, 08:35:22 PM

Hi A.King21
Thanks for pointing out the link problem. I pulled it and posted the link to the site. I figured Prophet might find it of use, since he is Canadian (Princess is in Canada). Yes, I couldn't help but think of Chas Campbell's setup when posting what I did. Glad to see you're helping it come to fruition. I do think Prophet's idea has merit, but it may need some tweaking. Thanks for the link - good to be abreast of developments, and hard to stay on top of everything. I wish you all the best.
Do you think an elliptical flywheel has any merit? I'm thinking that it might help accomplish what you're seeking through use of a slack belt - for what it's worth.
Until next time.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on July 02, 2014, 08:41:52 PM

Quote from: that_prophet on July 02, 2014, 03:16:41 PM
God has Shared this simple technology with me,
to share with our world.

God must be Supreme Joker (or Supreme Pervert) if It shares this kind of ideas.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 02, 2014, 08:49:38 PM

Quote from: MrMag on June 30, 2014, 06:29:41 PM
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WHERE IS YOUR VIDEO? : SEE YOU DIDN'T GOT IT?

NO. I DON'T KNOW THE 'SECRET' BUT NEITHER DO YOU. AT LEAST I ADMIT THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT. UNLIKE ALL OF YOUR FREE ENERGY DEVICES.

:THINK WHAT YOU WANT TO THINK AND I DON'T CARE! >:( [size=78%] [/size]

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERYONE DISCOVER THE SECRET, EVEN YOU! IF YOU KNOW THE SECRET, SHARE IT ! DON'T JUST GIVE YOUR CRAP
: CRAP BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW :P

I AM NOT SUPPRESSING ANYTHING AND YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB OF DESTROYING YOURSELF. IF YOU HAVE FREE ENERGY AND ARE NOT SHARING IT, YOU ARE THE SUPPRESSOR, RIGHT?

: NO ITS YOU :P

EXACTLY, I THINK YOU ARE AN IDIOT. IF EVERYONE HERE WOULD READ YOUR POSTS, THEY WOULD AGREE

: YA ITS HURTS IF YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW NOTHING! >:( :P

YEAH, THE TRUTH HURTS DOESN'T IT. WHY DON'T YOU MAKE A VIDEO OF ONE OF THE MANY DEVICES YOU HAVE. TAKE SOME PICTURES AND POST THEM. I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN YOUR SM DEVICE.

: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ME?, NO THINKING LIKE YOU? >:( :o ??? :P

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Another endless discussion again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( BLAH!! BLAH!!! BLAH!!!! BLAH!!!! BLAH!!!! BLAH!!!!!!

You mean you can make me follow you with this kind of attitude? :o :o :o :o wow LOL ;D

And you know what ? because of that attitude i will not anymore give even a point of good information!!!! >:(
YOU UNTHANKFULL!!!! >:( >:( >:( FIDDLE IT YOURSELF!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( SO WHAT!!!!!

see what you've done. >:(

:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on July 02, 2014, 09:25:33 PM

You never answered my questions Tito!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 02, 2014, 10:06:42 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmUug3WNIZI&list=TLuWXiY5Zm7TXDGXI7gD-eyiX2v1KoUpIg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 02, 2014, 11:09:33 PM

Bob: Re eliptical flywheel:

That's why Grumage has got his pulsing device - to simulate controlled imbalance.
We'll see anyway.
All options are on the table at this point.
Thanks for fixing the link.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 02, 2014, 11:16:04 PM

Tito: no point in getting angry with anyone.
Tito haters: No point in making frustrated posts.
Just keep experimenting.

I believe Tito has a heart of gold.
He's just in the middle of huge temptation.

What would any of us do if we figured this stuff out?

Remember Dyson: He failed over a thousand times till he developed
his vacuum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 02, 2014, 11:34:53 PM

Things are lining up now. A lot of what Tito said the last few years is coming together. Looking back from this point, it is clear to me that Tito has led the way for those of us who would listen and keep trying to get here. Some had to move on for various reasons. Life happens.

So now, video proof is not needed; pictures are not needed, schematics are not needed. The principles are all in the thread, and they're coming together. Those who can will use these principles with different variations, and further details will be ironed out in good time, with further constructive discussion. Instead of being spoonfed, many of us learned a helluva lot.

You've been a good teacher, Tito.
Thank you.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on July 03, 2014, 03:10:33 AM

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5926083A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19990720&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5926083A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19990720&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

I citate the text partially :

Thus, the inventor examined as described below how much the flux of the permanent Magnet 1 contributes to the induction of the third flux 13 in FIG. 2. First, the inventor provided static magnet dynamos of the basic configuration indicated in FIG. 1, one with a permanent magnet 1 and another without a permanent magnet 1. The inventor then compared the power levels needed to induce fluxes of equal flux densities to the second core 3 of each embodiment, that is, the power levels supplied to the magnetized coil 4. As a result, an embodiment with a permanent magnet 1 required only a very low power level to be supplied to the magnetized coil

;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

4. It was observed that the power level required was no more than 1/40 of that of the embodiment without a permanent magnet 1, depending on the test condition.

:)
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 03, 2014, 10:14:24 PM

Quote from: MileHigh on July 02, 2014, 09:25:33 PM
You never answered my questions Tito!!!

ok! i will give the answer even no thanking its ok! >:( and even make me hurt. but this is the last one! >:(

i don't want to go here anymore and I WILL LET MRMAG WIN IN SUPPRESSING ME!!!! >:( >:(

This is the truth why tesla use the rolling stone ice, and what i am trying to say and tesla want to teach is the MOMENTUM , IN THAT THING THERE SHOULD BE A CHAIN REACTION INDEPENDENTLY!!!! GOT IT!. >:( >:( >:(

AND. :D ;D

YOU'RE NOT MORE THAN A CHEATER NOW BUDDY! CAUSE YOU MADE ME TO GIVE THE ANSWER! ;D FORCEFULLY ACT ;D

@BOB
thank you for everything buddy you were with me every time :D

@ALL
BYE EVERYONE :)
I'LL JUST WATCH HERE FROM NOW ON AND SHARE SOME VIDEOS ONLY. :)

AND TO ALL WERE I THROWN SOME BAD OR UNPLEASANT WORDS, I'M SORRY AND I DON'T REALLY MEAN IT OK?. :-*

Work on your salvation and that is the important thing!
read the bible, you have to know JESUS deeply. BE born again :)
pray to God to give you wisdom and the real way to salvation. :)

GOD BLESS AND TAKE CARE
TITO L. ORACION NOW REALLY SIGNING OFF GOODBYE :-\ ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on July 03, 2014, 10:40:03 PM

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D
;D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT1QG8Hguzo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT1QG8Hguzo) ;D
;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 03, 2014, 10:53:28 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNQO5LSnD6w

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on July 03, 2014, 10:59:27 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 03, 2014, 10:53:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNQO5LSnD6w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNQO5LSnD6w)

Fake: Reed switch and button cell.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 04, 2014, 07:52:29 AM

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o

WOW YOU LOOK GOURGEOUS IN THAT SHOT ;D

HOW ABOUT THIS ONE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aal6scnLZmg&list=PLh1oASp87DmEhYL2vue5uWnny9y0oDPSP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIMBl6nBknQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-M9KUbxxfk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDcGSuUMGdc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AClUJPs6Eb0&list=PL46A7D92BA11AF102
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3OLhFx8KZY

WOW THEIR EFFICIENT ;D
AND DO YOU KNOW THAT WE CAN MAKE ROTATION USING THIS TECHNOLOGY: STERLING ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on July 04, 2014, 08:15:43 AM

Tito:

QuoteTITO L. ORACION NOW REALLY SIGNING OFF GOODBYE

My feeling is that you are a clown that can't punch his way out of an 'electronics' wet paper bag. It's shocking that some people believe that you have something and you are "guiding" them.

BUH-BYE.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 04, 2014, 08:54:07 PM

Quote from: MileHigh on July 04, 2014, 08:15:43 AM
Tito:

My feeling is that you are a clown that can't punch his way out of an 'electronics' wet paper bag. It's shocking that some people believe that you have something and you are "guiding" them.

BUH-BYE.

Ya your right ??? , i don't know why they keep on following me i'm just telling the truth. ??? ;D :P
and even i tell lie they keep on following me. ???

And you, even you tell lie or truth they don't want to follow you. ???

can you sense what kind of feeling is that? ??? ;D

I think they feel that i tell more truth is it not? ??? :P

And i think i'm a mile high from you. ;D

I think this is your right theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyBcHUe4WeQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyBcHUe4WeQ) ;D lol

I THINK YOU DON'T FEEL WHAT I FEEL THAT SOMEBODY FEEL WHAT YOU FEEL AND I FEEL. GOT IT? >:( :D :D :D ;D ;D LOL

OH WHAT A FEELING! ;D

NEXT TIME WHEN YOU FEEL THAT, JUST GO IMMEDIATELY TO CR, THAT IS WHAT I FEEL TO YOU ;D BWA HAHAHAHAHHAHHHHA

BY THE WAY IS THERE A WASHINGTON A.C.? ;D WHAT DO YOU FEEL? ;D ;D LOL BWA HAHAHAHHHHHAHHAHAH

BUH - BUH BYE BYE ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on July 04, 2014, 10:07:29 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 17, 2014, 11:30:13 PM
YOU ARE STARTING

AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

WHAT KIND OF KIND ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

WHAT DID I DO?, WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT AGAIN BRO? :(

AM I GOING TO STATE OR REPEAT ALL OF MY REASONS AGAIN?. :( :( :(

SO YOU MEAN UNTIL NOW YOU WERE BEING TEASED. YOU MEAN A BRILLIANT LIKE YOU BEEN TEASED FOR 3 OR 6 YEARS? :o WOW

YOU @#$@#$%#@$%#$%$%^% >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

It is so sad for me to see again this kind of attitude to destroy someone using this clever brilliant kind of thinking huh. :P
Conditioning every ones mind. A Judas attitude! >:(

WE ARE JUST THE SAME LEARNER HERE! I DID NOT PROMISE TO GIVE ALL DETAILS I'VE DISCOVERED! >:(

OK I'LL REPEAT THAT IS NOT TEASING THAT IS MY WAY OF TEACHING! GOT IT! >:( YOU @#$#@$ >:( >:( >:( [size=78%] [/size]

I THINK I'M OFF THE POP CORN :)

"YOU ARE STARTING

AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

What? I was just giving a reason as to why I am loosing a bit of faith in what you say. Yes, 6 years.

"WHAT KIND OF KIND ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Im the kind that needs to put most of my efforts at this time into the kind of working that produces a living.. Got that? ;)

"WHAT DID I DO?, WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT AGAIN BRO?"

Well, In my post that you replied to, calling me a 'YOU @#$@#$%#@$%#$%$%^%' with a bunch of mad faces, I was just stating 'facts' as to why I have not been around. :P But I never ever called you a "@#$@#$%#@$%#$%$%^%" Not once, and then tell others that they need to get saved. ??? Maybe you should stop flipping the coin from 'implying' swear words then pushing religion. The Bible will be a hard sell from a guy that openly calls others "@#$@#$%#@$%#$%$%^%" with mean faces after. Got that?

"It is so sad for me to see again this kind of attitude to destroy someone using this clever brilliant kind of thinking huh. :P
Conditioning every ones mind. A Judas attitude!

Judas attitude????? What about you????? "I have it and you dont"??? And giving completely useless tips, for 6 %$#@& years?????? Here is your supposed 'final' clue you put out on the previous page.......

"This is the truth why tesla use the rolling stone ice, and what i am trying to say and tesla want to teach is the MOMENTUM , IN THAT THING THERE SHOULD BE A CHAIN REACTION INDEPENDENTLY!!!! GOT IT!.

Now, CAN ANYONE HERE SAY THAT THEY 'GET' WHAT TITO MEANS HERE IN THE ABOVE STATEMENT OR WHAT??????? ANYONE????? HMMMMM???? Anybody??????

More of the same. Never ending useless lines of dribble. Its so far of from anything solid, that it seems deliberately 'designed' to be so. Almost like saying, "make like a tree and go away" or "make like a tree and get outa here" instead of "make like a tree and leave" lol Im just tired of trying to figure it all out. Not one bit of OU have I produced with these tips and clues. Not a smidgin.

Sorry guys. I just kinda flipped when I read Tootos reply above from a few pages ago.

I still have a belief in ou and fe, but I dont believe that we will find it here in this thread. Not any longer. I just dont. And Im not about to goof around for another 6 years waiting for just 1 'solid' detail, that may just never exist, here in this thread. Cant do it.

If just 1 person here, in this thread, can demonstrate a smidgin of OU or fe from Titos clues(not including "crystal radio" devices, unless they can produce considerable power more than lighting an LED) then I will delete this post. Otherwise, this is where it stays. Got that?? ;D

So you guys can keep on going. Im not pushing anyone away. Im just stating a 'solid' opinion, after '6 years' of experience ;) , as to why Im not going to be here much for another six. ;) I have been more successful lately just digging into my work and faith. Things are much better because of it. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 04, 2014, 10:22:19 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on July 04, 2014, 10:07:29 PM
"YOU ARE STARTING

AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

What? I was just giving a reason as to why I am loosing a bit of faith in what you say. Yes, 6 years.

"WHAT KIND OF KIND ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Im the kind that needs to put most of my efforts at this time into the kind of working that produces a living.. Got that? ;)

"WHAT DID I DO?, WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT AGAIN BRO?"

Well, In my post that you replied to, calling me a 'YOU @#$@#$%#@$%#$%$%^%' with a bunch of mad faces, I was just stating 'facts' as to why I have not been around. :P But I never ever called you a "@#$@#$%#@$%#$%$%^%" Not once, and then tell others that they need to get saved. ??? Maybe you should stop flipping the coin from 'implying' swear words then pushing religion. The Bible will be a hard sell from a guy that openly calls others "@#$@#$%#@$%#$%$%^%" with mean faces after. Got that?

"It is so sad for me to see again this kind of attitude to destroy someone using this clever brilliant kind of thinking huh. :P
Conditioning every ones mind. A Judas attitude!

Judas attitude? ??? ? What about you? ??? ? "I have it and you dont" ??? And giving completely useless tips, for 6 %$#@& years? ??? ?? Here is your supposed 'final' clue you put out on the previous page.......

"This is the truth why tesla use the rolling stone ice, and what i am trying to say and tesla want to teach is the MOMENTUM , IN THAT THING THERE SHOULD BE A CHAIN REACTION INDEPENDENTLY!!!! GOT IT!.

Now, CAN ANYONE HERE SAY THAT THEY 'GET' WHAT TITO MEANS HERE IN THE ABOVE STATEMENT OR WHAT? ??? ??? ANYONE? ??? ? HMMMMM? ??? Anybody? ??? ??

More of the same. Never ending useless lines of dribble. Its so far of from anything solid, that it seems deliberately 'designed' to be so. Almost like saying, "make like a tree and go away" or "make like a tree and get outa here" instead of "make like a tree and leave" lol Im just tired of trying to figure it all out. Not one bit of OU have I produced with these tips and clues. Not a smidgin.

Sorry guys. I just kinda flipped when I read Tootos reply above from a few pages ago.

I still have a belief in ou and fe, but I dont believe that we will find it here in this thread. Not any longer. I just dont. And Im not about to goof around for another 6 years waiting for just 1 'solid' detail, that may just never exist, here in this thread. Cant do it.

If just 1 person here, in this thread, can demonstrate a smidgin of OU or fe from Titos clues(not including "crystal radio" devices, unless they can produce considerable power more than lighting an LED) then I will delete this post. Otherwise, this is where it stays. Got that?? ;D

So you guys can keep on going. Im not pushing anyone away. Im just stating a 'solid' opinion, after '6 years' of experience ;) , as to why Im not going to be here much for another six. ;) I have been more successful lately just digging into my work and faith. Things are much better because of it. ;)

Mags

Ahhhh lots of bla l blah blah

i'm just sharing videos here no more no less.

and i didn't force anyone to go here period.

its your own risk! period!

after thanking me for some things then if you didn't get it then back to enemy again!
what kind are you!

yes you didn't get it, is that your reason why are you mad at me again! >:(

You didn't get it? hope that's also true or else your a liar ::)

in some one of your post you admitted that you've learned something. then now what! >:( you $#%^$%^$%^$%^ lol joke :D

Yes momentum and chain reaction no more nearest clues than that. or else i'm in detail already. got it? >:( [size=78%] [/size]
:P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 04, 2014, 10:40:11 PM

ahhhh so you are expecting me to give it in detail oh i see :o

about the religion its between God and you

i just share that, and that is not my problem anymore, its your problem to God now. :P

Calling you$%^#$%^$%^$%^ ?.

that is my love for you and respect cause i cannot totally say it straight even i'm very very mad! :)
and thats the truth! :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 04, 2014, 10:43:41 PM

GOODBYE!!!! :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on July 04, 2014, 10:50:44 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 04, 2014, 10:22:19 PM

Ahhhh lots of bla l blah blah

i'm just sharing videos here no more no less.

and i didn't force anyone to go here period.

its your own risk! period!

after thanking me for some things then if you didn't get it then back to enemy again!
what kind are you!

yes you didn't get it, is that your reason why are you mad at me again! >:(

You didn't get it? hope that's also true or else your a liar ::)
:P

"its your own risk! period!" So far, 100% risk.

"after thanking me for some things then if you didn't get it then back to enemy again!
what kind are you!"

Yeah I thanked you. For bits and pieces at a time when i had faith in what you said. But the more those bits and pieces didnt add up, the faith faded with them. ;)

You keep implying that I have it.. If so, then tell them here what you believe I have. ::)

You wont because you cant. ;) You call me a liar, yet you repeatedly said you would show, but never have. ;) So just what is it that I am lying about? ???

I have put up many schematics and pics. MANY. I had shown and written my deepest thoughts on these subjects. No riddles. Just real world stuff. But with you, its always a joke or clueless clues. Not one person here has a device because of this thread. None. >:( ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on July 04, 2014, 11:12:39 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 04, 2014, 10:40:11 PM
ahhhh so you are expecting me to give it in detail oh i see :o

about the religion its between God and you

i just share that, and that is not my problem anymore, its your problem to God now. :P

Calling you$%^#$%^$%^$%^ ?.

that is my love for you and respect cause i cannot totally say it straight even i'm very very mad! :)
and thats the truth! :)

"ahhhh so you are expecting me to give it in detail oh i see" Nope, I dont expect that at all. Because I dont believe there are any. ;)

"about the religion its between God and you" Thats right. So stop assuming that you are the only one that knows God and pushing it on everyone as if they dont. ;)

"Calling you$%^#$%^$%^$%^ ?.

that is my love for you and respect cause i cannot totally say it straight even i'm very very mad! :)
and thats the truth! :) "

When you write "you &%*#%" What do you believe people here are assuming you mean by it?????? I know exactly what it means and it instills the bad words it the readers minds. So saying it for real or 'faking' it, ends up the same result.. What? Does "You %$@*$#" equal "You great guy" or " you cactus" ??? No. It means what you intend it to mean. And you say it a lot. ;)

And then all the GOODBYE IM DONE HERE malarky. All angry balony. Angry about what?? Nobody is here showing off 'your tech' and claiming its theirs. In fact, there are no working devices on this site let alone here in this thread. So what are you angry about. Are you angry because this long ride may not keep on going forever??? Many here have put a lot of time and effort, and you are angry????? ::) Meanwhile, they got nuthin but broken promises. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 04, 2014, 11:59:56 PM

i have a lot of things to say but can't really express it. and it goes to unlimited talk again.

SO BE IT! :)

AND SO NOW DON'T FOLLOW ME!!!! >:(

YOU GREAT GUY! ;D

i'm just putting videos here for my sake doing it as my library or my book ok. 8)

so do not bother me here anymore ok! is that clear?

if you want to discuss for something do it in other thread. and i will not bother you there. :)

ok!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyKjoKtMXhQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed2AbvQ6ZrQ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on July 05, 2014, 09:09:52 PM

Guys, probably the best suggestion that I have is to follow Lasersabers builds. Building my version of his ez spin motor put 'efficiency' into a new light for me. ;) 160v input, all 24 coils(650ohm each) in series is around 15kohm, about 80mw(like running 4 old red leds) timed pulses with a tiny reed sw...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7JY6H-XfWw

With each build, he gives 'all' details as to how and what. No jokes, no holding back, he just gives it all. ;)

Im spending a bit of time designing a version of this motor that should be able to run a typical ceiling fan with just around 1w input. This would be a great development if it goes as planned. Will be trying a new rotor on this existing motor with 3/4in disk mags instead of the 3/8x1/8 as in the vid, just to get a gauge on the differences in output vs input by doing so. ;)

There was some buzz around here about a 'small' ceiling fan that ran on just 12w a while back. Well I think this one will beat it out by a large margin in power consumption and size.

Ive also been looking into Lasers other devices. This guy is real good at what he does. And he just keeps on giving what ever he comes up with. Great humanitarian. ;D ;)

Once we get devices working very efficiently, then we can run them off of radio wave receivers and small solar panels. At this point, thats free energy enough for me till something better comes around or one of us figures something better along the way. ;)

Good luck. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on July 05, 2014, 09:35:28 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5oh4y83mZU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFq4lXqBqFc

He will even sell prototypes to those that dont want, or have the ability, to build. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 06, 2014, 06:50:57 AM

I believe Tito when he says you have to build up momentum. Here's why:

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 06, 2014, 07:00:29 AM

In Tesla's own words he mentions over unity, without using that term.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 06, 2014, 08:37:06 AM

a.king21

In interview you find more examples...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 06, 2014, 04:23:42 PM

A.King21
Nice quotes. I think they point to the one area that's still missing in my own deductions as to how this whole thing comes together. Forest's response made me pull out my copy of Tesla's "Work with Alternating Currents..." by Anderson again. I really need to go through it. I think it will hold the key to putting everything together all the parts Tito has talked about.

So far, I see this as a multi-stranded litz wire coil with a perpendicular coil "kicking" it with a pulse (from a computer fan, or JT, or 555 etc.) The litz coil captures the inductive kickback and multiplies it. From there, I guess it can be dumped into swbf pancake coils in series to step-up voltage. But really, I need to go back to the Tesla book and start reading, because over and over, Tito has spoken of the TMT as a key part of the setup. A.king21's comments have jolted me back to this important part.

Somewhere in there as well, there's a zener diode, perhaps as part of a loop-back mechanism. But you know, now that I think about it, once the ringing of the coils begins, it only takes a strategic small amount of pulsed energy to keep it going. Could it be that the zener is allowing just enough voltage back to the litz coil to keep kicking it so that it continues to ring? Could it be that this is a key to what Tesla means by "resonant transformer" in A.King's quote?

We just need that red button to make it all happen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIkPeZKP-d4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIkPeZKP-d4)
Happy Sunday everybody :!
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 06, 2014, 05:17:53 PM

ionization is the key
charge separation and collection

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 06, 2014, 05:32:40 PM

;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 06, 2014, 07:05:49 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 06, 2014, 05:17:53 PM
ionization is the key
charge separation and collection

Yes. Saw that in the quotes as well - couldn't help but think of all you've been saying in this regard Dave.
Guess we gotta keep chipping away until it all comes together. We're much closer to it now than when we started. :)
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 06, 2014, 08:56:44 PM

Everyone please follow the great guy.

seems begging already please! please! please! :D

he is so so good ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n9ZZVHx_iI

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on July 07, 2014, 12:07:45 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on July 06, 2014, 06:50:57 AM
I believe Tito when he says you have to build up momentum. Here's why:

Well, the EZ spin motor uses very little input(ave 80mw, about 500ua), pulses(taps) the motor 12 times per rotation, and the rotor builds momentum. But still no OU. But very close to unity. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 07, 2014, 10:00:03 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on July 07, 2014, 12:07:45 AM
Well, the EZ spin motor uses very little input(ave 80mw, about 500ua), pulses(taps) the motor 12 times per rotation, and the rotor builds momentum. But still no OU. But very close to unity. ;)

Mags

If Tesla's skyscraper was a garden shed - would he have achieved the same result? I think not. I think that the small size of the shed would not have allowed enough energy to be isolated from the source to be meaningful. It's like rolling a snowball down a hill. If it only picks up a few bits here and there it is laughable. However I have (in my youth) ended up tearing up whole sections of lawn and earth with a monster snowball.
I was once upstairs on a bus as a kid and two idiots decided to rock from side to side. Within seconds that alarmed bus driver flew upstairs screaming. Those kids could have overturned that bus had they not stopped. Two scrawny 12 year olds. Imagine that.
So I guess one's perception of over unity depends on one's personal experience. I have never forgotten the bus incident.
I think we fail because we don't go high enough.
Keep experimenting.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on July 07, 2014, 11:40:43 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on July 07, 2014, 10:00:03 PM
If Tesla's skyscraper was a garden shed - would he have achieved the same result? I think not. I think that the small size of the shed would not have allowed enough energy to be isolated from the source to be meaningful. It's like rolling a snowball down a hill. If it only picks up a few bits here and there it is laughable. However I have (in my youth) ended up tearing up whole sections of lawn and earth with a monster snowball.
I was once upstairs on a bus as a kid and two idiots decided to rock from side to side. Within seconds that alarmed bus driver flew upstairs screaming. Those kids could have overturned that bus had they not stopped. Two scrawny 12 year olds. Imagine that.
So I guess one's perception of over unity depends on one's personal experience. I have never forgotten the bus incident.
I think we fail because we don't go high enough.
Keep experimenting.

Hey Aking

Well, the building tesla was tapping into resonance is more like a very large inverted pendulum, where gravity pull and the weight of the thing are in reverse conditions vs a normal pendulum as we know them, and, the difference in how the are mounted or based is opposite also, where a normal pen is normally free wheeling and the building, the base is a solid mount and the inverted pen arm is used as a spring. Spings can be used on any pen to increase freq. Im just making examples. ;)

But the tin shed is like a balance wheel in a wrist watch in comparison. Possibly a big freq increase of the tapper would get it to shake to some level of resonation. It might not be ringing like a bell, but im sure there is a freq that can get it into a tantrum of sorts and make more noise than the tapper made. ??? ;D But all in all, there is no mass for momentum in the tin shed. ;) Not for this project.

When ya think about it, a big building structure, from what I read, and unfinished iron framework, I would imagine a pretty low freq for the tapper. Do we have any detailed info on the size, dimension
of the structure? Any details of maybe how many taps it would take to get a full shake goin on?

This is where we have to stop just reading it and do it.

Build a solid base to mount a vertical structure in miniature. What ever size floats your boat. Size, mass and stiffness/flexibility will determining operating freq. Tap it at the base of the structure as the Tesla story goes and see what happens. This isnt a million dollar build. This is a simple project. Use stainless steel strips as the structure and add weight to the top, or not. What ever freq you want to adjust it to. Use some alum angle pieces to attach firmly to the solid base.

Tapping? Magnet on the strip near the bottom and pulse with a coil. Tap tap tap.

Or if someone wants to go further and build a model of a building frame, ??? then they might see more than one freq of operation. Different sections having their own freq, and so on.

The tapper could be a solenoid with a pin that pops out and taps it. But we need to get real with it. In comparison to the Tesla story, a desktop model would have to be tapped with most likely very tiny taps. We cant just start hard taping with even 1w of power. In my estimation. We have zero description on the taper details like weight of the hammer, so on. So experimenting is all there is to settle it.

If you believe in what you read, then this is an affordable project for anyone. All parts from Ace Hardware, Radioshack, junk drawer. ;D Ives gots me a whole lotta them thar junk drawers. :o Ive delved in to many many projects of all sorts before I got more heavily involved in ou in 2007, forums and all. Sooo, I have a lot of good junk. Still got more I wanna get. In time.

Now, if you find that the tapper required more in than was gotten out of the vibrating structure, then what are we missing?

If the tapper could actually get the building to rock n roll, did it only take a single winding of the spring, or 10 windings? How many taps at freq till max convulsion? ??? ??? ??? Very little detail if any on specifics. So build it and find out what gives.

I have a base I made a while back. I put it off for more important stuff and it wont take much to get something happening. Its made as I described above with stainless strip.

Now imagine. The impact of the tapper would be equal to a lot of energy in a very short period of time. Impact. Instant. So the desk top model, it may be tough to simulate a tiny enough hammer to offer fair comparison to the story. So Ill tend to go coil tapping a mag on the strip. lil HV in a tiny cap and discharge. Tap tap tap.

In order to get big swings on the top of the structure, we need to have high energy impacts somewhere just above the base of the strip mounting. In order to at least approximate the story line.

Anyway, just wanted to throw that out there. I have a little time I can slap this thing together here soon.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 08, 2014, 06:55:15 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP5EuPFEwh0

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: CuriousChris on July 08, 2014, 07:26:33 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on July 06, 2014, 07:00:29 AM
In Tesla's own words he mentions over unity, without using that term.

As usual taking Tesla out of context with no understanding. In everyone of those exepriments Tesla spoke about he provided the source energy in the form of vibrational resonant energy.

For the earthquake he had a machine which added energy to the building in a resonant fashion. In such circumstances the small input is additive, meaning that in the end the small vibrations amounted to large vibrations. This is exactly why soldiers break step when marching across a bridge. all stepping in rythm can cause the bridge to resonate and fail.

For the electrical example he was showing how electricity can be transferred wirelessly over a distance with minimal loss. In each of those experiments he also provided the source energy. There was no over unity just exceptional efficiency.

When you read Tesla you need to understand Tesla. If you don't what you are doing is picking familiar words like a dog hearing "food", "ball", "walkies" sounds great to the dog until he gets to the vets door and realises he was tricked by some food a ball and a walk and now he is going to have a thermometer shoved up his clacker.

Don't be the dog and fooled by misquotes of Tesla.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 08, 2014, 08:06:54 AM

Don't be the dog and fooled by misinterpretations of Tesla words...think by yourself ;) there is only one small secret Tesla was never willing to clearly say, but whoever dismissed Tesla letter written to his friend may be foooled by so called "experts"....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 08, 2014, 10:44:27 AM

Quote from: forest on July 08, 2014, 08:06:54 AM
Don't be the dog and fooled by misinterpretations of Tesla words...think by yourself ;) there is only one small secret Tesla was never willing to clearly say, but whoever dismissed Tesla letter written to his friend may be foooled by so called "experts"....

Forest, your remarks about this letter got me searching, and I cam up with this article, which highlights Tesla's letter to friend and publisher Robert Underwood Johnson about his motor which would derive power from the ambient medium.
http://home.comcast.net/~onichelson/ONichelsonTeslaLetter.pdf (http://home.comcast.net/~onichelson/ONichelsonTeslaLetter.pdf)

Tesla maintained that the "secret" for this means of converting power from the ambient medium into useable electricity was outlined in his June 1999 Century Illustrated Magazine article (seems page 200 has the gist of his "secret")
http://www.unz.org/Pub/Century-1900jun-00175 (http://www.unz.org/Pub/Century-1900jun-00175)
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-article-the-problem-of-increasing-human-energy (http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-article-the-problem-of-increasing-human-energy) (easier to read, but no page numbers)
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1900-06-00.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1900-06-00.htm) (mostly text, few diagrams)

Forest, is this the letter (to Robert Underwood Johnson) you were referring to?
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 08, 2014, 02:11:24 PM

Bob

Exactly ! ;) Everytime somebody is doubt about free energy should just read this letter and also all information about Clemente Figuera. That's one side of the story, second one is : Tesla always thought about energy from ambient.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 09, 2014, 01:24:28 AM

I'm not on this site to convince anyone. I just state researched facts.
Tesla's earthquake machine uses the principle of the double electric bell.
Two solenoids acting in push-pull sequence. The usual power nowadays is 60 volts AC.
This was used extensively by Telecom companies for telephone bell ringing purposes.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 09, 2014, 01:25:09 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on July 09, 2014, 01:24:28 AM
I'm not on this site to convince anyone. I just state researched facts.
Tesla's earthquake machine uses the principle of the double electric bell.
Two solenoids acting in push-pull sequence. The usual power nowadays is 60 volts AC.
This was used extensively by Telecom companies for telephone bell ringing purposes.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 09, 2014, 01:26:02 AM

Electric bell

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 09, 2014, 01:27:08 AM

Another view

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on July 09, 2014, 04:37:20 AM

Quote from: forest on July 08, 2014, 08:06:54 AM
Don't be the dog and fooled by misinterpretations of Tesla words...think by yourself ;) there is only one small secret Tesla was never willing to clearly say, but whoever dismissed Tesla letter written to his friend may be foooled by so called "experts"....

Thanks Forest for one more great source for reading!

Bob, can you please make a screenshot of page 62 of Tesla's interview on High Frequency high currents?

Tesla: ''... the damped wave is of advantage because it gives you with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2, 3, 4 or 5 kilowatts.....'' If this is not a clear statement of OU what is it???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 09, 2014, 04:55:10 AM

Here is the problem Tito mentioned many times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detonation

The magic is in method of controlling it. Without control you got only pufffff. Think how much amps in impulse you got from capacitor discharge

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on July 09, 2014, 10:35:19 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on July 09, 2014, 01:24:28 AM
The usual power nowadays is 60 volts AC.

To my knowledge, "60" stands for frequency; voltage is somewhat different.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on July 09, 2014, 11:25:26 AM

3,6 KWh = drei komma sechs Kilo(=1000)Watt/Stunde

= 3600 Wh = 3600 X 1Wh = 3600 X 3600 Ws = 12.960.000 W/s

in words : twelfe millions nine hundred sixty thousand Wattseconds
compressed energy
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
from upper " direct=gleich Strom/stream/current/flow/Fluß " per second conditioning
to :

pulsed direct=gleich Strom/stream/current/flow/Fluß

Crisis/Kreis Frequenz, Hertz,Swing/Wave Impulse per

What is expressed exactly with Hertz?

Hertz is the physical unit of frequency. The European electricity grid is an AC power with a frequency of 50Hz. This means that the current one hundred times per second, changes its direction. The daily flow which brings up and running such as a lamp to light or a motor, has 50 Hz ln Europe are matched all electrical equipment on this frequency. If the actual frequency deviates too much from 50 Hz devices do not function properly or no longer after all. This can happen when the demand for energy is higher than the amount of electricity that is provided by the power plants. TenneT ensures that a balance between the consumption of energy by the end consumer (electricity demand) and the supply of energy by the power plants (electricity supply). Thus, the frequency of about 50 Hz remains constant and the equipment is functioning properly.

50 Hz 100 pulses

60 Hz 120 p.

better,clearer :

50Hz/s 100 pulses/s

60Hz/s 120 pulses/s

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ergo: Dirac surges as 1 actio pulse (Europes 50Hz) :

3,6KWh = 12.960.000 Ws linear DC =

12.960.000 Ws/(100 pulses/s)
translatory(wechselnder/alternating/changing) DC

12.960.000 Ws/(100 pulses/s)
rotatory [kreisen(der)/cruisin(g)/drehen(der)/rotating/circulatin(g)] DC

or AC

DC/DC DC/AC AC/AC AC/DC trans-/tele- formation

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the Coloumb load/Ladung capacity of 100 pulses / s(ec) =50 Hz

compressed in one Hz = 0 or O kreis(linien)Welle
+ EMP -EMP

obere untere Kreis Halbwelle

upper down circle half wave
+(pos) amplus amplus-(neg.) circle half wave

mit dem Zirkel sollte man umgehen koennen !

::) :) physical designing ;) Bye-Bye B'B'

Sincerely
OCWL

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=8711619U1&KC=U1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19871119

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 09, 2014, 12:55:13 PM

Quote from: Qwert on July 09, 2014, 10:35:19 AM
To my knowledge, "60" stands for frequency; voltage is somewhat different.

I was referring to the British Telecom telephone wiring voltage. The info was given to me by a retired BT engineer. I don't know the HZ but I'll ask him.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 09, 2014, 02:10:06 PM

Quote from: Jeg on July 09, 2014, 04:37:20 AM
Thanks Forest for one more great source for reading!

Bob, can you please make a screenshot of page 62 of Tesla's interview on High Frequency high currents?

Tesla: ''... the damped wave is of advantage because it gives you with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2, 3, 4 or 5 kilowatts.....'' If this is not a clear statement of OU what is it???

Jeg,
Great page selected!

Quote62 Work With Alternating Currents
Counsel Speaking of your not having perfectly undamped waves at that time, you were referring to that character of circuit?
Tesla Yea, but with another kind of circuit I could, of course. The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in the technical papers. I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilo-watts/ whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilo-watt and nothing more. That as the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.

I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For in-stance, if the engine as of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store (it) in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in ny writ-ings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive.

A common experiment, for instance, in my laboratory on Houston Street, was to pass through a coil energy at a rate of several thousand horsepower, put a piece of thick tinfoil on a stick, and approach it to that coil. The tinfoil would melt, and would not only melt, but while it was still in that form, it would be evaporated and the whole process took place in so small an interval of time that it was like a cannon shot. Instantly I put it there, there was an explosion. That was a striking experiment. It simply showed the power of the condenser, and at that time I was so reckless that in order to demonstrate to my visitors that my theories were correct, I would stick my head into that coil and I was not hurt: but, I would not do it now.

I couldn't post a screen shot, but got an OCR conversion of it and quoted it above. Here's the URL to the book: http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Aetherforce_Libary/Aether%20Mage/Nikola%20Tesla%20-%20On%20His%20Work%20With%20Alternating%20Currents%20and%20Their%20Application%20to%20Wireless%20Telgraphy,%20Telephony,%20and%20Transmission%20of%20Power%20(Leland%20I.%20Anderson).pdf (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Aetherforce_Libary/Aether%20Mage/Nikola%20Tesla%20-%20On%20His%20Work%20With%20Alternating%20Currents%20and%20Their%20Application%20to%20Wireless%20Telgraphy,%20Telephony,%20and%20Transmission%20of%20Power%20(Leland%20I.%20Anderson).pdf)

I wonder if the secret in this page is simply pulsing a number of parallel wires which dump into the same cap. As Tito said, "the manyer, the better." Any thoughts?
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 09, 2014, 08:31:01 PM

[quote ]
I wonder if the secret in this page is simply pulsing a number of parallel wires which dump into the same cap. As Tito said, "the manyer, the better." Any thoughts?
Bob
[/quote]

I think you've got a point here.
I'm currently charging nine batteries with one spike generator hmmmmm.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 09, 2014, 08:33:50 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on July 09, 2014, 02:10:06 PM
Jeg,
Great page selected! I couldn't post a screen shot, but got an OCR conversion of it and quoted it above. Here's the URL to the book: http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Aetherforce_Libary/Aether%20Mage/Nikola%20Tesla%20-%20On%20His%20Work%20With%20Alternating%20Currents%20and%20Their%20Application%20to%20Wireless%20Telgraphy,%20Telephony,%20and%20Transmission%20of%20Power%20(Leland%20I.%20Anderson).pdf (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Aetherforce_Libary/Aether%20Mage/Nikola%20Tesla%20-%20On%20His%20Work%20With%20Alternating%20Currents%20and%20Their%20Application%20to%20Wireless%20Telgraphy,%20Telephony,%20and%20Transmission%20of%20Power%20(Leland%20I.%20Anderson).pdf)

I wonder if the secret in this page is simply pulsing a number of parallel wires which dump into the same cap. As Tito said, "the manyer, the better." Any thoughts?
Bob

;) :) :o ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 09, 2014, 08:41:46 PM

Good evening Tito: It's 1.30 am in the UK. lol
Geofusion on the Dally thread has also got it. He also states that thicker wires are important.

hmmmmm.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 09, 2014, 08:51:02 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on July 09, 2014, 08:41:46 PM
Good evening Tito: It's 1.30 am in the UK. lol
Geofusion on the Dally thread has also got it. He also states that thicker wires are important.

hmmmmm.

Well, that's good. :)

Thicker wires are important if you want a bigger capacity.

but i discover that using an exact wires or 25% greater for a single appliances as its own power supply is the best. :) [size=78%] [/size]
lots of advantage promise. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on July 09, 2014, 08:51:13 PM

www.epo.org (http://www.epo.org)

Dr.Pavel Imris

Patent application 2014

Description : input and output !

Google translator:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140203&CC=DE&NR=202013011233U1&KC=U1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140203&CC=DE&NR=202013011233U1&KC=U1)

Cascading,close cycling et cetera....
https://www.google.de/?gws_rd=ssl#q=yul+brynner+etcetera (https://www.google.de/?gws_rd=ssl#q=yul+brynner+etcetera)

Sincerely
OCWL

In memoriam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTMtu4Z5T-U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTMtu4Z5T-U)
et
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOmSV8Vj5qE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOmSV8Vj5qE)
cetera
the right side listened movies from the sixtiees and seventies and eightees

"Convoy" with Rubber Duck et.........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convoy_(1978_film)#mediaviewer/File:Convoy_film_poster.jpg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 09, 2014, 08:58:21 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 09, 2014, 08:51:02 PM

Well, that's good. :)

Thicker wires are important if you want a bigger capacity.

but i discover that using an exact wires or 25% greater for a single appliances as its own power supply is the best. :) [size=78%] [/size]
lots of advantage promise. 8)

Do you mean that you wind your own coils and have a 1:1 or 1:4 ratio in the wires?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 09, 2014, 09:08:09 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on July 09, 2014, 08:58:21 PM

Do you mean that you wind your own coils and have a 1:1 or 1:4 ratio in the wires?

No. my driving coil is in the middle of the two other coil, its like three coil, but they are all connected. ;)
The two other coils are just waiter to do some task. they are the power supporter. 8)
sorry, next time buddy. ;)

ok , To be specific this is my design for my mix ac and dc amplification. :)

Now if you want very big application, it is better to use the tesla style.
and the advantage of the tesla style is you don't need an inverter cause you can get any hertz you desired and that's big! :o

and if you want a small application, then the dc amplification is the best cause its stable and small in size. :)

bye. :) ;D

surely some great guy is reading. ;D [size=78%]joke[/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 09, 2014, 10:58:17 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 09, 2014, 09:08:09 PM

No. my driving coil is in the middle of the two other coil, its like three coil, but they are all connected. ;)
The two other coils are just waiter to do some task. they are the power supporter. 8)
sorry, next time buddy. ;)

ok , To be specific this is my design for my mix ac and dc amplification. :)

Now if you want very big application, it is better to use the tesla style.
and the advantage of the tesla style is you don't need an inverter cause you can get any hertz you desired and that's big! :o

and if you want a small application, then the dc amplification is the best cause its stable and small in size. :)

bye. :) ;D

surely some great guy is reading. ;D [size=78%]joke[/size]

Thanks, that's useful information. I've come across that configuration before but can't remember where.
Thanks again.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 09, 2014, 10:59:45 PM

Tito: From what you are saying it looks like you've definitely figured out Kapanadze.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on July 10, 2014, 12:10:21 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 09, 2014, 09:08:09 PM

No. my driving coil is in the middle of the two other coil, its like three coil, but they are all connected. ;)
The two other coils are just waiter to do some task. they are the power supporter. 8)
sorry, next time buddy. ;)

ok , To be specific this is my design for my mix ac and dc amplification. :)

Now if you want very big application, it is better to use the tesla style.
and the advantage of the tesla style is you don't need an inverter cause you can get any hertz you desired and that's big! :o

and if you want a small application, then the dc amplification is the best cause its stable and small in size. :)

bye. :) ;D

surely some great guy is reading. ;D [size=78%]joke[/size]

"surely some great guy is reading."

Bah, common teets. It just gets 'really' hard to accept more 'FINAL TIP's' as if we should have got it 10 final tips ago. Do you get what Im getting at? Its almost like crying wolf many times, but there is no wolf when we come to see it. Old children story.

See, once you said to look a Don Smith, then Bedini. Then bearden. And others. Maybe they all have something in common.

But when we look around, how many people have a successful Bedini device? Don Smith device? Bearden?? How many would you even just guess? ??? Ive looked there, and there and there. Nothing yet. Now, how many others, on earth, have taken a serious look at those ideas by these 3 men?? Lets just even say 10,000 have and tried, at least one of the 3 guys ideas. We dont have anyone that claims any working devices. So why is it so hard to believe that I havent figured it out by now either???? ??? ::) ;)

Listen. Im 48, gunna be 49 soon. I just dont want to be 75 and still pondering possibilities. So when I had 'realized' its been 6 years, it kinda hit me like hammer. I looked back at it all in my mind. YOU might even say I was crazy if I were to tell you how much of most of my days of that time period ive spent on all this stuff. Not just this thread, and not just this forum. It was hurting me financially mostly because I felt this was more important than my work, my sleep, and lots of other responsibilities. Years of that puts a big hole in my life, and I had to just make it a very small priority in my life now. Kind of like if i had 2 job offers. One job, I get to work on Lamborgini's, Porsches, and Pagani Zonda's but make very little, or the other job where I would have to climb in crawl spaces of huge buildings that the crawl is filling with sewage and I have to fix the leak and clean up the mess and got paid decent money. Well, I would love to work on Zondas, but I have bills. Rent, electric, high price food bills even trying to buy efficiently. Kids, pets, what ever.

So I have decided not to make a career in OU experimentation. I was in deep. Loved it. Couldnt get enough, staying up all hours of the night, wires everywhere, soldering iron smoking, kitty watching every move and trying to help. She is not real good at this stuff I find.

Anyway, you say this above.....
"No. my driving coil is in the middle of the two other coil, its like three coil, but they are all connected. ;)
The two other coils are just waiter to do some task. they are the power supporter. 8)
sorry, next time buddy. ;) "

Well, Don Smiths coils seem to be close to what you described. Pic below. But what if its not? So say at least 4 people in this thread put together Dons setup and none work. Where do they go from there? How many infinite possibilities would have to be tried, explored, or even invented, with zero OU results would you recommend before they should put it down and get back into real life??

Sure its everyones choice to do as they want. But heck, I didnt really realize how much actual time I had put into all this till I sat and pondered it when it came to me that it has been 6 years.

Im really sorry. But the way I feel at this point, it has to be that you do not intend for anyone here to really 'get it'. If you even have it. ??? I can say that, because I 'really' dont know for sure. Its a feeling based on the history of this thread. It just isnt going to happen. Like lately there is all this enthusiasm, but look back and there was more enthusiasm here quite a few other times, and where are we now. Pretty much square 1. Talking tesla, but nothing to prove the talk. Nothing from Bob, Aking, Forest, Me, ABC, 123, you. So I just have to stop putting serious time in on these things. Tesla had his ideas very early. I just dont have what he had. So I have to do what Im good at and try to better my life. The energy that is available, is not free and going up every day. So I have to prepare to be able to pay for that. This just isnt doing that. I gave it my best shot. Sorry if its disappointing to some here that I feel and state this, but I have come to some serious conclusions in some of my experiments that show me that if and OU device can be made, I have not even come close yet. And if it does exist, I dont know what direction to go from there as there are infinite possibilities of options. And when I think about how much time that will take and still may not be even near, I just cant do it. Not right now. The way I look at it, Ill bee working till im dead. So the more I do actual paying work now, the less Ill 'have' to push myself when Im 80. If I ever get there. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 10, 2014, 12:15:44 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 09, 2014, 09:08:09 PM
No. my driving coil is in the middle of the two other coil, its like three coil, but they are all connected. ;)
The two other coils are just waiter to do some task. they are the power supporter. 8)
sorry, next time buddy. ;)

ok , To be specific this is my design for my mix ac and dc amplification. :)

Now if you want very big application, it is better to use the tesla style.
and the advantage of the tesla style is you don't need an inverter cause you can get any hertz you desired and that's big! :o

and if you want a small application, then the dc amplification is the best cause its stable and small in size. :)

QuoteI wonder if the secret in this page is simply pulsing a number of parallel wires which dump into the same cap. As Tito said, "the manyer, the better." Any thoughts?
Bob

Tito's response: (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fwink.gif&hash=0d9aacf9391b7fda4adbf7cd091f687bfd283341) (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fsmiley.gif&hash=f8f8faa5737a843fa5f3e4af986c18073b26d5a4) (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fshocked.gif&hash=e7d7c28fe89fbaf079fd2c9336eeb324f6b43299) (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fhuh.gif&hash=d6ee855eba4456f74563eb220bc8ccc44eeafd3c)

Question: If we dump pulsed DC into a cap, does the cap convert it to AC?
(Does this constitute combining DC and AC, if we discharge the AC into further coils/caps?)
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 10, 2014, 02:27:52 AM

Guys,, can you point me to the best link where I can lean how to compute and determine the value and direction of EMF force due to Faraday induction ? Somewhere I can learn how to use Biot-Savart methods ? Maybe then we will see something interesting....I'm serious, I have troubles with equations

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 10, 2014, 08:51:46 AM

Quote from: forest on July 10, 2014, 02:27:52 AM
Guys,, can you point me to the best link where I can lean how to compute and determine the value and direction of EMF force due to Faraday induction ? Somewhere I can learn how to use Biot-Savart methods ? Maybe then we will see something interesting....I'm serious, I have troubles with equations

Forest,
Hope these help
http://physics.tutorvista.com/electricity-and-magnetism.html (http://physics.tutorvista.com/electricity-and-magnetism.html)
(If you ignore its initial explanation of electricity as the movement of electrons, the equations are there. I just ignored the pop-up tutorial chat on the right)
http://www.easycalculation.com/physics/electromagnetism/learn-biot-savart-law.php (http://www.easycalculation.com/physics/electromagnetism/learn-biot-savart-law.php)

http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/py106/InducedEMF.html (http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/py106/InducedEMF.html)

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on July 10, 2014, 11:12:06 AM

Quote from: forest on July 10, 2014, 02:27:52 AM
Guys,, can you point me to the best link where I can lean how to compute and determine the value and direction of EMF force due to Faraday induction ? Somewhere I can learn how to use Biot-Savart methods ? Maybe then we will see something interesting....I'm serious, I have troubles with equations

The actual static charge is related to columb force, but to get voltage is easy:

Voltage on a unipolar generator: Q = B*V (Electric Induction)
Q = B * V
Volts = Mag field (in tesla) * Velocity (meters/sec)

---------------------------------------------

Technically it is the relative velocity between both electrodes and average B field, but you get the idea.

You'll also want this:

Current on a unipolar gen: I = (B*V) / R (Lorentz force / lenz drag)
I = B * V / R
Current(amps) = Mag field (in tesla) * Velocity (meters/sec) / Resistance (ohms)

---------------------------------------------

To get the drag, take your current and apply Lorentz force in reverse. Drag on a moving rotor is linear to current draw.

Unless of course you followed Tesla's notes you'd use a spiral subdivided disk. http://www.andrijar.com/teslahom/ (http://www.andrijar.com/teslahom/) Then drag would be nonlinear to power draw :)

The best way though (I think) is to make the charge imbalance with solid-state so there is no actual velocity to fight against.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 10, 2014, 09:33:49 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on July 10, 2014, 12:10:21 AM

"surely some great guy is reading."

Bah, common teets. It just gets 'really' hard to accept more 'FINAL TIP's' as if we should have got it 10 final tips ago. Do you get what Im getting at? Its almost like crying wolf many times, but there is no wolf when we come to see it. Old children story.

See, once you said to look a Don Smith, then Bedini. Then bearden. And others. Maybe they all have something in common.

But when we look around, how many people have a successful Bedini device? Don Smith device? Bearden?? How many would you even just guess? ??? Ive looked there, and there and there. Nothing yet. Now, how many others, on earth, have taken a serious look at those ideas by these 3 men?? Lets just even say 10,000 have and tried, at least one of the 3 guys ideas. We dont have anyone that claims any working devices. So why is it so hard to believe that I havent figured it out by now either? ??? ??? ::) ;)

Listen. Im 48, gunna be 49 soon. I just dont want to be 75 and still pondering possibilities. So when I had 'realized' its been 6 years, it kinda hit me like hammer. I looked back at it all in my mind. YOU might even say I was crazy if I were to tell you how much of most of my days of that time period ive spent on all this stuff. Not just this thread, and not just this forum. It was hurting me financially mostly because I felt this was more important than my work, my sleep, and lots of other responsibilities. Years of that puts a big hole in my life, and I had to just make it a very small priority in my life now. Kind of like if i had 2 job offers. One job, I get to work on Lamborgini's, Porsches, and Pagani Zonda's but make very little, or the other job where I would have to climb in crawl spaces of huge buildings that the crawl is filling with sewage and I have to fix the leak and clean up the mess and got paid decent money. Well, I would love to work on Zondas, but I have bills. Rent, electric, high price food bills even trying to buy efficiently. Kids, pets, what ever.

So I have decided not to make a career in OU experimentation. I was in deep. Loved it. Couldnt get enough, staying up all hours of the night, wires everywhere, soldering iron smoking, kitty watching every move and trying to help. She is not real good at this stuff I find.

Anyway, you say this above.....
"No. my driving coil is in the middle of the two other coil, its like three coil, but they are all connected. ;)
The two other coils are just waiter to do some task. they are the power supporter. 8)
sorry, next time buddy. ;) "

Well, Don Smiths coils seem to be close to what you described. Pic below. But what if its not? So say at least 4 people in this thread put together Dons setup and none work. Where do they go from there? How many infinite possibilities would have to be tried, explored, or even invented, with zero OU results would you recommend before they should put it down and get back into real life??

Sure its everyones choice to do as they want. But heck, I didnt really realize how much actual time I had put into all this till I sat and pondered it when it came to me that it has been 6 years.

Im really sorry. But the way I feel at this point, it has to be that you do not intend for anyone here to really 'get it'. If you even have it. ??? I can say that, because I 'really' dont know for sure. Its a feeling based on the history of this thread. It just isnt going to happen. Like lately there is all this enthusiasm, but look back and there was more enthusiasm here quite a few other times, and where are we now. Pretty much square 1. Talking tesla, but nothing to prove the talk. Nothing from Bob, Aking, Forest, Me, ABC, 123, you. So I just have to stop putting serious time in on these things. Tesla had his ideas very early. I just dont have what he had. So I have to do what Im good at and try to better my life. The energy that is available, is not free and going up every day. So I have to prepare to be able to pay for that. This just isnt doing that. I gave it my best shot. Sorry if its disappointing to some here that I feel and state this, but I have come to some serious conclusions in some of my experiments that show me that if and OU device can be made, I have not even come close yet. And if it does exist, I dont know what direction to go from there as there are infinite possibilities of options. And when I think about how much time that will take and still may not be even near, I just cant do it. Not right now. The way I look at it, Ill bee working till im dead. So the more I do actual paying work now, the less Ill 'have' to push myself when Im 80. If I ever get there. ;)

Mags

@ mag
Well, in some of your previous post i'ved read the two secret that i am really hiding, that's why i assumed that you have it already.
but if your just lieying well, who cares since that is your discovery and i'm happy for you. ;)

one thing more bud, in religion i'm just sharing and i am not thinking for assuming. :) :-\

i'm just looking for someone that will really share what they really got to what i am talking here. :)
sorry buddy. :)

@ aking
well, i don't really know the kapanadze's detail but what i see is a combination of ac and dc. but it looks also a tesla style.
i'm not sure if that thing is really a free energy device. who knows if there are secret wires there.
but what is important is it must really working by itself. :)

@everyone
my promise is not yet broken since i can show vid or pic anytime ok? ;)
don't worry i'm gonna do it with safety for myself also ok? :)
cause mib are also looking at the back ground. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 10, 2014, 09:47:09 PM

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OTITS :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 10, 2014, 10:16:42 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on July 10, 2014, 12:10:21 AM

"surely some great guy is reading."

Bah, common teets. It just gets 'really' hard to accept more 'FINAL TIP's' as if we should have got it 10 final tips ago. Do you get what Im getting at? Its almost like crying wolf many times, but there is no wolf when we come to see it. Old children story.

See, once you said to look a Don Smith, then Bedini. Then bearden. And others. Maybe they all have something in common.

But when we look around, how many people have a successful Bedini device? Don Smith device? Bearden?? How many would you even just guess? ??? Ive looked there, and there and there. Nothing yet. Now, how many others, on earth, have taken a serious look at those ideas by these 3 men?? Lets just even say 10,000 have and tried, at least one of the 3 guys ideas. We dont have anyone that claims any working devices. So why is it so hard to believe that I havent figured it out by now either? ??? ??? ::) ;)

Listen. Im 48, gunna be 49 soon. I just dont want to be 75 and still pondering possibilities. So when I had 'realized' its been 6 years, it kinda hit me like hammer. I looked back at it all in my mind. YOU might even say I was crazy if I were to tell you how much of most of my days of that time period ive spent on all this stuff. Not just this thread, and not just this forum. It was hurting me financially mostly because I felt this was more important than my work, my sleep, and lots of other responsibilities. Years of that puts a big hole in my life, and I had to just make it a very small priority in my life now. Kind of like if i had 2 job offers. One job, I get to work on Lamborgini's, Porsches, and Pagani Zonda's but make very little, or the other job where I would have to climb in crawl spaces of huge buildings that the crawl is filling with sewage and I have to fix the leak and clean up the mess and got paid decent money. Well, I would love to work on Zondas, but I have bills. Rent, electric, high price food bills even trying to buy efficiently. Kids, pets, what ever.

So I have decided not to make a career in OU experimentation. I was in deep. Loved it. Couldnt get enough, staying up all hours of the night, wires everywhere, soldering iron smoking, kitty watching every move and trying to help. She is not real good at this stuff I find.

Anyway, you say this above.....
"No. my driving coil is in the middle of the two other coil, its like three coil, but they are all connected. ;)
The two other coils are just waiter to do some task. they are the power supporter. 8)
sorry, next time buddy. ;) "

Well, Don Smiths coils seem to be close to what you described. Pic below. But what if its not? So say at least 4 people in this thread put together Dons setup and none work. Where do they go from there? How many infinite possibilities would have to be tried, explored, or even invented, with zero OU results would you recommend before they should put it down and get back into real life??

Sure its everyones choice to do as they want. But heck, I didnt really realize how much actual time I had put into all this till I sat and pondered it when it came to me that it has been 6 years.

Im really sorry. But the way I feel at this point, it has to be that you do not intend for anyone here to really 'get it'. If you even have it. ??? I can say that, because I 'really' dont know for sure. Its a feeling based on the history of this thread. It just isnt going to happen. Like lately there is all this enthusiasm, but look back and there was more enthusiasm here quite a few other times, and where are we now. Pretty much square 1. Talking tesla, but nothing to prove the talk. Nothing from Bob, Aking, Forest, Me, ABC, 123, you. So I just have to stop putting serious time in on these things. Tesla had his ideas very early. I just dont have what he had. So I have to do what Im good at and try to better my life. The energy that is available, is not free and going up every day. So I have to prepare to be able to pay for that. This just isnt doing that. I gave it my best shot. Sorry if its disappointing to some here that I feel and state this, but I have come to some serious conclusions in some of my experiments that show me that if and OU device can be made, I have not even come close yet. And if it does exist, I dont know what direction to go from there as there are infinite possibilities of options. And when I think about how much time that will take and still may not be even near, I just cant do it. Not right now. The way I look at it, Ill bee working till im dead. So the more I do actual paying work now, the less Ill 'have' to push myself when Im 80. If I ever get there. ;)

Mags

I know exactly where your coming from my personal life and work has suffered as well,
But we have to aspire to do something that is bigger than ourselves and help others or my life has been in vain.
I cant stop
Even when I stop I cant stop lol.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 10, 2014, 10:18:45 PM

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OKAY I'LL STOP NOW

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: energy1234hope on July 11, 2014, 12:59:30 AM

hey tito you need to private message mags with help to get there been here years watching mags through all his and your ups and downs. i think god would like u to help him out. best wishes to you both ron

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: weizisky on July 11, 2014, 01:46:58 AM

Quote from: energy1234hope on July 11, 2014, 12:59:30 AM
hey tito you need to private message mags with help to get there been here years watching mags through all his and your ups and downs. i think god would like u to help him out. best wishes to you both ron

that's what I'm going to say.

Weizi

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on July 11, 2014, 04:04:30 AM

I don't get it. Do you guys expect Mags to keep Tito's "secrets" from us ? Or should Mags tell us all about it after Tito PM's him all the "secrets" ?

I don't think Tito will PM anyone because if he did then the chances are the person would save the PM's then open source them as it
should be done, allow everyone to have access to these "secrets". If Tito share something that could benefit all then the person he
shares it with keeps it secret then that person ought to be ashamed and discontinue participating in open source research.

More like it is that Tito has nothing to share that is not already known and has no OU device and cannot help anyone to show OU.

I think that is more realistic.

..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 11, 2014, 06:05:51 AM

There is something strange in very old transformers. Normally transformer unloaded is open circuit in common types, but in old ones they used forgotten method of "multiple arc connection" when secondary of transformer is closed circuit always, even unloaded . Think about it ....I think it is related to JackNoSkills experiments...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 11, 2014, 07:19:44 AM

I HAVE GIVEN ALMOST ALL I HAVE.

I WILL JUST LEAVE THE FOREST UNTOUCH TO MAKE IT IN VIRGIN STATE.

EVEN I DID'NT SHOW A VID OR ANY PIC, ANYONE CAN SEE THAT I TELL THE TRUTH AND YOU CAN DISCERN IT. RIGHT.

JUST BE CAREFUL CAUSE YOU WILL REALLY DEALING IN A DANGEROUS THING.

HOPE YOU CAN GET IT.

NO ONE IS FORCED, EVERYTHING IS IN YOUR WILL MOST LIKELY YOU ARE HAPPY.

DO NOT BLAME ANYONE!

BYE NOW, PLEASE DON'T PROVOKE ME.

Tito L. Oracion :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on July 11, 2014, 10:26:11 AM

Quote from: forest on July 11, 2014, 06:05:51 AM
There is something strange in very old transformers. Normally transformer unloaded is open circuit in common types, but in old ones they used forgotten method of "multiple arc connection" when secondary of transformer is closed circuit always, even unloaded . Think about it ....I think it is related to JackNoSkills experiments...

Hi,
How about transformers that have thin ribbon copper tape wrapped outside and is shorted, what is the purpose?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 11, 2014, 12:04:06 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on July 11, 2014, 10:26:11 AM

Hi,
How about transformers that have thin ribbon copper tape wrapped outside and is shorted, what is the purpose?

yeah, good point but I'm talking about low frequency transformers.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 11, 2014, 06:29:44 PM

Quote from: forest on July 11, 2014, 06:05:51 AM
There is something strange in very old transformers. Normally transformer unloaded is open circuit in common types, but in old ones they used forgotten method of "multiple arc connection" when secondary of transformer is closed circuit always, even unloaded . Think about it ....I think it is related to JackNoSkills experiments...

Ah Forest!
My mind cannot rest when you and Tito post!
Take a look at this quote. It seems like he's talking about current amplification (among other things) using a shorted secondary:

QuotePosted by Colin Dedman on 20 October, 2011 - 11:53 pm

-The current transformer secondary is short circuited during the operation.
What is the reason, and explain with details.

Most replies answered by pointing out that destructive voltages will be generated if the secondary is open-circuited. While this is true, it does not exactly answer the question.

A current xformer will still operate safely over a wide range of secondary load resistances, so why is a very low secondary load resistance (= approximately a short circuit) the best choice?

The reason is that the fidelity of the current transformer is highest when the secondary is short circuited.

The purpose of a current xformer is to provide a scaled-down version of the primary current with the highest possible fidelity, that is, the secondary current should be a faithful replica of the primary current. In many applications it is not just the magnitude of the measured current that is important, but also faithful reproduction of the phase and high-order harmonics.

Thus, the question becomes, why is the fidelity highest when the secondary is shorted? At first this seems counter-intuitive, for the fidelity of the more familiar voltage transformer is most definitely NOT optimised by shorting the secondary! Indeed, as a voltage transformer is loaded more heavily by reducing the secondary load resistance, the secondary voltage 'sags', phase error is increased, and frequency response decreased, all leading to a loss of fidelity of the secondary voltage waveform. This occurs mainly due to winding resistance and leakage inductance, which would both be zero in an 'ideal' xformer. For a voltage transformer, the fidelity of the secondary voltage is highest with a high secondary load resistance, which draws very little current.

However, with current xformers, just about everything turns out to be reversed compared to voltage xformers, which can be confusing. As with all xformers, the secondary load resistance is reflected back to the primary side, scaled by the square of the turns ratio. Therefore, if we short the secondary, then we also short the primary. Note that the primary current is fixed and constant, being set by the external circuit. Therefore, from V=IR, the voltage developed across the primary winding is approximately zero when the secondary is shorted. Of course, the secondary voltage is also zero when shorted. But why does this improve the current fidelity? Without going into too much detail, the 'magnetising current' of an xformer depends on the winding inductance and the winding voltage. The inductance is set by the number of turns and the core material and geometry, which are fixed for any given current xformer. However, by reducing the winding voltages, by shorting the secondary, the magnetising current is also reduced to near zero. That is a GOOD THING, because the magnetising current is an error, representing a proportion of the primary current that DOES NOT end up being reflected in the secondary current. The magnetising current results in an error in both the magnitude and phase of the secondary current, definitely not a good thing where high fidelity is required. To say the same thing in a different way, shorting the secondary permits larger currents to be measured with acceptable fidelity, and without core saturation.

The conclusion is a beautiful inverse of the situation for a voltage transformer. In summary:

For a voltage xformer, the primary voltage is fixed, and the current is set by secondary load resistance. Reducing the secondary load resistance increases the current, increases the 'loading', increases the power delivered to the load, and lowers the secondary voltage fidelity. A high value of secondary load resistance is desirable for best voltage fidelity. Shorting the secondary will generate dangerous currents.

For a current xformer, the primary CURRENT is fixed, and the VOLTAGE is set by the secondary load resistance. INCREASING the secondary load resistance increases the VOLTAGE, increases the loading, increases the power delivered to the load, and lowers the secondary CURRENT fidelity. A LOW value of secondary load resistance is desirable for best fidelity. OPEN-CIRCUITING the secondary will generate dangerous VOLTAGES.

Source: http://www.control.com/thread/1026235833 (http://www.control.com/thread/1026235833) (about halfway down page) Check out some of the other answers on this page.

Does this not speak to certain aspects of the Titonium's energy amplification properties? I see it applying to the Don Smith device as well as Thane Heinz' work. What do you think?
Bob

Edit: Is this what Tito meant by saying the following?

QuoteI WILL JUST LEAVE THE FOREST UNTOUCH TO MAKE IT IN VIRGIN STATE.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on July 12, 2014, 07:06:28 AM

Tito, your theory of amplification with coils is not new to me.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on July 12, 2014, 07:39:04 AM

Tito, Leave that House.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on July 12, 2014, 07:45:07 AM

The copper wrapping around a transformer is for shielding, it prevents stray flux from radiating out from the transformer I think.
By intercepting the flux and basically shorting it out in a shorted single turn. I have one that come from a TV.

Forest, the old transformers might have damaged insulation on the windings. Or maybe some kind of constant current transformer
which has magnetic shielding between the primary and the secondary. Difficult to say without seeing one and dismantling it. I don't see how any multiple parallel windings can cause a closed circuit unless there is insulation damage and shorting in the windings.

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on July 12, 2014, 07:57:50 AM

http://free-energy.yolasite.com/
GEM = God's Electricity Multiplier
This uses pulleys to multiply rotations + thereby multiply AC electricity

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 12, 2014, 08:13:23 AM

That_prophet: The resistance of the battery is negligible. This might just work. But you would have to charge the batteries in SERIES and put a very small load on your parallel output. The series batteries will charge up.
Worth a try.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 12, 2014, 09:22:48 AM

I'm wondering if in its simplified state, the Titonium consists of a pulsing primary, a shorted secondary and a pickup coil (with some caps and diodes as well).
Like I've said before,
- pulsing primary could be off a JT, computer fan...
- shorted secondary might still be litz wire
- pickup coil ...
Gotta go think some more on it.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on July 12, 2014, 11:20:25 AM

Everyone. ;)

Please take a look on the Transformer Construction on every person Tito has cited to you guys. Its on the way you Wound the Transformer, Primary is two halves, Secondary is two halves, Halves- is another technique Tesla has showed us to make his Tesla Bifilar Pancake into a cylindrical form, The Third coil is the extractor to power your loads. That is why Tito said he has 3 Coils which the Two of them has Capacity.

I think you guys who wanted to really understand this free energy device, should look carefully the Transformer construction on each free energy devices. E.g. Benetiz1 pdf -There are Two Capacitor which charge each other after they discharge to the coil=How can you do that set up of benitez with out using Capacitor instead using only Coils. I think all information everyone needs are already on internet, we need just to think clearly not deeply-Tesla. Used Coils to create Capacitor, each the dielectric break a spark jumps between this two points of this Halves of Coil creating what we call Electrical Resonance with out the so call jar/capacitor.

Meow

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 12, 2014, 11:36:00 AM

Stupify-12
Yes but Benitez needs an earth ground on his caps and the voltage must be high enough to be classified as a whimhurst machine.

Subject to that you are right on.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 12, 2014, 12:03:05 PM

Ok, seems current transformer is what they called "multiple arc connection", but who can tell me if this is still used in power lines ?? I mean about those large transformers hanging on poles.

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 13, 2014, 05:52:39 AM

Ok, Thank You ALL. ;D ;D ;D >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 13, 2014, 02:01:58 PM

Thank You All ;D
The boost converter uses neg energy to boost the pos.
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2014/zLW9Hh.gif

The buck converter uses pos energy to boost the neg.
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2014/cySfvR.gif (http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2014/cySfvR.gif)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on July 13, 2014, 02:21:03 PM

Quote from: forest on July 12, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
Ok, seems current transformer is what they called "multiple arc connection", but who can tell me if this is still used in power lines ?? I mean about those large transformers hanging on poles.

Dear forest.

Can you please be a bit more explicit with regard to your question? My earlier career was with the supply industry, in particular, HV distribution at 11 and 33 KV. Most Pole Transformers are just that, a step down to LV for industrial and domestic uses.

A CT ( current transformer ) for ampere measurement. Or is your description different?

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 13, 2014, 02:27:33 PM

This just posted by Stupify over on the Tesla's Coil for Electromagnets thread (bold added for emphasis):

QuoteI have build the same Bifilar coil into a Tesla Transformer- air core, The effects me and my cousin have seen is when there is load on the secondary coils the Transformer seems to boost its performance and not affected in the so called counter induction. So we tried to add more coils in the Transformer, we have accidentally stumble on it the other secondary is powering a load of bulb with full brightness, accidentally Short circuit the new other Secondary coils that result into a boost of brightness on the bulb being load on the other secondary.

We have tried to make more shorted Bifilar secondary coils on this Transformer it seems to boost its performance with out demanding more power from the input source.
Meow

Permalink: http://www.overunity.com/13460/teslas-coil-for-electro-magnets/msg409465/#msg409465 (http://www.overunity.com/13460/teslas-coil-for-electro-magnets/msg409465/#msg409465)

Kind of reminds me of what Teets has been saying about the TMT principle in the Titonium:
If I understand correctly, Stupify is getting these results with:

- Primary
- Series-wound bifilar secondary
- Shorted swbifi resonant coil

Am I interpreting you correctly, Stupify?

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 13, 2014, 02:45:57 PM

Quote from: Grumage on July 13, 2014, 02:21:03 PM
Dear forest.

Can you please be a bit more explicit with regard to your question? My earlier career was with the supply industry, in particular, HV distribution at 11 and 33 KV. Most Pole Transformers are just that, a step down to LV for industrial and domestic uses.

A CT ( current transformer ) for ampere measurement. Or is your description different?

Cheers Grum.

I mean a current transformer as WAS used before 1900 as shown in many patents. Primaries in series but secondaries are wound in bifilar closed manner and load is connected in such strange manner called multiple arc connection ! There is constant current ratio between primary current and secondary one...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 13, 2014, 04:03:26 PM

Do you see the implication.
Opposites attract
Charge separation

In an ion generator a pos ion cloud builds around the neg electrode and a neg ion cloud builds around the pos electrode, the same happens with a coil.

There is a fundamental principle that can be exploited here, a rational simple explanation for why coils work the way they do.

If you study static neutralizers you will find its just an ion generator where the two electrodes are place in close proximity to the work surface to be neutralized, this causes recombination of charges and effectively neutralizes any static electricity that has built up on the work surface.
Ok keeping the static neutralizer in mind what happens when a transformer is pulsed, its creating pos and neg ions in the atmosphere around the transformer but they are being neutralized because of the close proximity.

quit wondering aimlessly about, going from one dead end to the next
study, use your own head

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on July 13, 2014, 05:31:04 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on July 13, 2014, 02:27:33 PM
This just posted by Stupify over on the Tesla's Coil for Electromagnets thread (bold added for emphasis):Permalink: http://www.overunity.com/13460/teslas-coil-for-electro-magnets/msg409465/#msg409465 (http://www.overunity.com/13460/teslas-coil-for-electro-magnets/msg409465/#msg409465)

Kind of reminds me of what Teets has been saying about the TMT principle in the Titonium:
If I understand correctly, Stupify is getting these results with:

- Primary
- Series-wound bifilar secondary
- Shorted swbifi resonant coil

Am I interpreting you correctly, Stupify?

Bob

In new video of Wesley Daly replication L2 is shorted but dont remember if its bifilar
:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 14, 2014, 08:32:08 AM

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2014/cySfvR.gif

With the buck converter the pos is diminished because it builds the magnetic field and the coil offers resistance, but the neg is boosted because of the collapsing field.
Which is exactly what we see in its output the voltage is lowered and the amperage is boosted.

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2014/zLW9Hh.gif
With the boost converter we see the exact opposite the neg is diminished because its used to create the magnetic field and the pos is boosted because of the collapsing magnetic field.
With the boost converter we see that the voltage is increased and the amperage is decreased.

The models fit the experimental evidence.

This imply's that the coils are taking on pos and neg charge.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 14, 2014, 08:36:08 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 13, 2014, 04:03:26 PM
Do you see the implication.
Opposites attract
Charge separation

In an ion generator a pos ion cloud builds around the neg electrode and a neg ion cloud builds around the pos electrode, the same happens with a coil.

There is a fundamental principle that can be exploited here, a rational simple explanation for why coils work the way they do.

Dave,
Do you think it's possible that the (pos) "antenna" end of Tito's setup might foster the formation of a negative ion cloud and that further on down, perhaps at the load end, a positive ion cloud is forming?
In this way, would we not be stimulating the electrostatic environment (the ambient) to tap into its charge?
Can this be what Tito really means by push-pull?

Toto: Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 14, 2014, 10:02:35 AM

Hey Bob
Not sure about Tito's arrangement, the most important clue he has given is that he's using ac to boost dc.
In other words he using dc to create a dipole and ac to pulse the dipole.

My main study as of late is the buck and boost converters when I found out one boosted amperage and the other boosted voltage I wanted to know why.

Lets look a why a coil rings pos then neg as in a sine wave
Use one pulse
Lets use a neg pulse
When the neg pulse hits the coil it takes on a neg charge and creates a pos field around the coil
when the pos field collapses the coil takes on a pos charge and builds a neg field around the coil
when the neg field collapses the coil again takes on a neg charge building a pos field around the coil

Each time the coils magnetic field collapses the charge in the coil is changed, we see this as a sine wave which rings down because the magnetic field gets smaller on each collapse.
The field is building an collapsing repetitively, each time the field collapses it takes on the opposite charge.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 14, 2014, 10:24:16 AM

So basically the buck converter is a neg charge pump

and the boost converter is a pos charge pump.

If I want my coil to draw from the ambient on the collapse I have to give it something to draw from.

The field created around the coil is proportional to the applied energy so I have to boost that field in some way so the coil draws more than it would normally.

To do this the field can be ionized adding energy on the collapse that was not created by the coil.

The beauty of this is that an ion gen uses very little energy to create pos and neg ion clouds.

You do not want to use sharp electrodes, you do not want to emit anything, you just want to create a tension on the ambient.
A sphere creates capacitive tension.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on July 14, 2014, 10:30:25 AM

Quote from: forest on July 13, 2014, 02:45:57 PM
I mean a current transformer as WAS used before 1900 as shown in many patents. Primaries in series but secondaries are wound in bifilar closed manner and load is connected in such strange manner called multiple arc connection ! There is constant current ratio between primary current and secondary one...

forest,

i think grumage will ask patents also, can you point us one of many patents that show transformers as you described ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on July 15, 2014, 12:55:41 PM

The winding is the same for the Primary , Secondary, and extra Secondary. It is composed of CW and CCW in halves. The circuit used to power the Transformer is a common Tesla Capacitor discharge set up. If Left is Clockwise then both Primary and Seconday on the Left side is wound in layered and direction of winding is CW. If Right is Counter-Clockwise then both Primary and Secondary on the Right side is wound in layered and direction of winding is CCW. The ratio of winding is 1:4- 1 for Primary and 4 for Secondary, you could also try to 1:2.5 ratio. If you wanted to read it for you self look for the Tesla Transformer Construction on the Tesla Book.

That's all guys 8) I just followed Tesla on his detailed construction of his Tesla Transformer. Attached is the picture for better understanding.

Meow

Quote from: Bob Smith on July 13, 2014, 02:27:33 PM
This just posted by Stupify over on the Tesla's Coil for Electromagnets thread (bold added for emphasis):Permalink: http://www.overunity.com/13460/teslas-coil-for-electro-magnets/msg409465/#msg409465 (http://www.overunity.com/13460/teslas-coil-for-electro-magnets/msg409465/#msg409465)

Kind of reminds me of what Teets has been saying about the TMT principle in the Titonium:
If I understand correctly, Stupify is getting these results with:

- Primary
- Series-wound bifilar secondary
- Shorted swbifi resonant coil

Am I interpreting you correctly, Stupify?

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 15, 2014, 04:25:02 PM

Listen to what this man is saying, its what you have been searching for and trying to understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RO6AXftkDg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 15, 2014, 05:10:21 PM

Lets read the circuit, its basically a buck boost converter that pulses both sides of the cap.

The trigger coil puts out a pos pulse that triggers the gate of Q1
Q1 pulses the coil L1 the bemf from L1 runs through the diode D1 and into the pos side of the cap.

The trigger coil puts out a neg pulse that triggers the gate of Q2
Q2 pulses L2 the bemf from L2 runs through the diode D2 and into the neg side of the cap.

A very simple bipolar circuit, all it needs is an ion generator circuit either attached or stand alone.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 16, 2014, 08:15:57 AM

Using a 555 to control a mechanical magnetic switch

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on July 16, 2014, 10:28:25 AM

Quote from: Marsing on July 14, 2014, 10:30:25 AM
forest,

i think grumage will ask patents also, can you point us one of many patents that show transformers as you described ?

Where are you forest ?.

BTW, "Clamp meter" is an example of current transformer .

http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/current-transformer.html

...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 16, 2014, 03:55:26 PM

example http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Canadian_patent_30172

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 16, 2014, 10:23:06 PM

http://chemelec.com/Projects/Projects.htm (http://chemelec.com/Projects/Projects.htm)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 19, 2014, 10:30:45 PM

A few observations that I find to be shedding light on Tito's energy amplification - the core amplification principle:
Bob

QuoteThe key to the Stanley Meyer fuel cell lies in the "Tesla Choke" that uses "Tesla's Regenerative Effect" to effectively recycle charge by recycling the Back EMF of each + pulse to add to the next + pulse. This regenerative effect in resonance essentially cascades the input charges to 1000's of volts greater than what you actually input...

QuoteI didn't invent this method of recycling charge, neither did Stanley Meyer. The Tesla Choke/Meyer Voltage Intensifier Circuit is really Tesla's "Electrical Igniter for Gas Engines" patent no 609 250 of August 1898. This has been classified for more than 100 years and was only ever used in Fords original Model T. Since then the capacitance/inductance resonant effect was removed from the ignition coil that we have today.

Remember when Mr. Teslonian dug out that quote from Tito saying he had found the "secret" to energy amplification in this patent?
Here's a link to it: http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-609,250-electrical-igniter (http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-609,250-electrical-igniter)

QuoteRetards think cascading charge to 1000's of Volts is impossible. An analogy is pulse a coil & collect the Back EMF & store it in a capacitor then add this stored energy to the next + pulse to double the power output.
I merely do this 1000's of times per second, this is called fractioning & involves storing that recycled energy in a ferrite core to be added to the next + pulse at resonance. This is how a Tesla coil recycles charge- I merely use the Tesla Regenerative effect to power my Fuel Cell.

QuoteBack EMF is captured on the Tesla Choke because of a blocking diode and is stored as flux on the ferrite core to be added to the next + pulse.

Source: http://open-source-energy.org/index.php?topic=1153.0 (http://open-source-energy.org/index.php?topic=1153.0)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 19, 2014, 11:34:01 PM

More info related to the above quotes, taken from one of the poster's YT pages. While it is laid out for WFC use, I believe the energy amplification principle can be applied to Tito's apparatus, the elusive Titonium ;D ;D ;D

QuotePublished on Jun 4, 2013
The WFC v1.0 software is Stanley Meyer's original software given to the Maori's in New Zealand from when Meyer went to NZ to share his technology. I used to give this software away on the net and teach people how to calculate and dial into resonance.

You can make your own Tesla Choke using a 20mm cardboard tube. You just wind 2X 190 turns of 5/10mm (Magnet Wire #24). The polarity of L1, L2 is very important as L1 must cancel out the Flux of L2.
.
There's a picture in one of the slides on Stanley Meyer's Denver presentation that I'd uploaded in my video's.

Tesla Choke
• At LC resonance the positive pulse goes through blocking diode to the positive Tesla Choke.

• Positive pulse hits one side of the bifilar Tesla Choke coils.

• The Tesla Choke coil becomes NORTH charged at the end the diode is attached.

• The positive pulse hits the positive outside tube.

• The positive pulse hits the water.

• The positive pulse potential hits the negative inside tube.

• The positive pulse potential hits the other Tesla Choke coil wire connected to the negative tube making that end NORTH.
.
Both Choke coils are wrapped the SAME way on a ferrite core. Stanley Meyer's diagrams clearly show that the positive choke has NORTH at the diode end of the positive Tesla Choke and the negative choke has NORTH at the Tesla Chokes opposite end.
.
The most important aspect is that these fields with NORTH at each end of each of the Tesla Choke coils are that they are in polar opposition to one another, thus restricting current flow to the fuel cell. The Tesla Choke both restricts magnetics (current) to the cells and cascades back-EMF voltage spikes to very high potentials. Also the blocking diode prevents any reversals of current flow which prevents arcing from taking place within the cell. The system is actually series-resonant, so the output voltage is limited only by the Q of the system (by the resistance of the wires in the resonator coil).

Another way is we could just use Tesla patent 593 138 to transmit power and step the voltage up at the transmitter end, then step it back down at the receiver end. Rather than using only a step-down transformer in the receiver, instead we use a hi-Q resonator, and we allow the resonant voltage to rise to a very high value. As a result of this, massive amounts of EM energy will be "sucked" into the receiver and use this energy to power our HHO cells or sell power to the power grid.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 19, 2014, 11:48:31 PM

The Zener Effect
With the application of sufficient reverse voltage (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/solids/diod.html#c2), a p-n junction (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/solids/pnjun.html#c1) will experience a rapid avalanche breakdown and conduct current in the reverse direction. Valence electrons (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/solids/sili.html#c5) which break free under the influence of the applied electric field can be accelerated enough that they can knock loose other electrons and the subsequent collisions quickly become an avalanche. When this process is taking place, very small changes in voltage can cause very large changes in current.
Source: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/solids/zener.html#c1 (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/solids/zener.html#c1)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 20, 2014, 02:51:06 AM

Search for TITO-NIUM !!

HAhAhA 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 20, 2014, 09:29:44 AM

What do all the Russian devices have in common.

They have a Tesla coil wound first, an ionization coil.

Look at all the Tesla coil experiments where an led or any bulb for that matter is lit along the side of the secondary, exactly where the Russian's are winding there pickup coils.

The Tesla coil builds a strong electric field in this area, and if the ends are left open they ionize both ends of the coil.

Look at Tesla's ionization circuit, the coil configuration.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 20, 2014, 10:06:40 AM

A little added benefit we have that Tesla didnt,,,silicone diodes.
Just have to be careful about ionization points where the wire is connected to the diodes, smooth solder joints with shrink tubing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 20, 2014, 10:47:33 AM

I can't see any justification for diodes at both ends of the same coil. One at either end should be fine. Just make certain that it can handle the voltage that the winding produces as connected.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 20, 2014, 11:28:43 AM

Thanks Mark for your helping input, your comment made me look at the reasoning.
The reasoning behind two diodes
If we look at a full wave bridge, in my understanding, a coil pulsed with ac has both pos and neg pulses on each end of a coil.
If only one diode is used the end with the diode will stay either pos or neg depending on the diode's orientation but the other end will receive both pos and neg pulses which will cause the ions on that end to join back together since both pos and neg ions are being formed.

A full wave bridge may work better but the half wave may cause tension in the field being only half is being rectified.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 20, 2014, 11:30:24 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVWquWFjnCw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVWquWFjnCw)

It takes alot of energy to ionize matter but very little to ionize air.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 20, 2014, 11:50:47 AM

I know this is not what we are taught but a diode conducts both directions pos energy in the forward direction and neg energy in the reverse.
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2014/cySfvR.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2014/zLW9Hh.gif

Electrons actually move from neg to pos, so look at the orientation of a circuit and the diode, neg electrons are moving through the diodes reverse direction.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 20, 2014, 12:23:22 PM

Dave,
Can you envision a way to introduce the bemf from the secondary's collapsing magnetic field back into the circuit and still maintain the ionized fields? I think this can be done with a primary pulsing circuit and some additional coils and diode(s).
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 20, 2014, 01:36:49 PM

Bob I have thought along those lines, this should take reactive power out of the primary.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 20, 2014, 02:23:00 PM

After rereading your post I guess this is not what you had in mind.
The secondary's fields can be rectified so not a problem, the problem lies in the bemf of the primary, it fights the oncoming pulse, kindof like a car on a one way street going against traffic, the capacitor relieves this problem as in a tank circuit but also destroys energy.

The diodes should relieve this problem and capture the bemf as well as rectify it for use in the circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 20, 2014, 07:36:34 PM

Dave45 and all:
Take a look at this: Food for thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_HFnNTfyU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 20, 2014, 10:21:21 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on July 20, 2014, 07:36:34 PM
Dave45 and all:
Take a look at this: Food for thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_HFnNTfyU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_HFnNTfyU)

Cool I hadnt seen that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tJfqMYHaQw

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 21, 2014, 02:22:53 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt9wTAL5KoU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 21, 2014, 06:52:54 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 20, 2014, 11:28:43 AM
Thanks Mark for your helping input, your comment made me look at the reasoning.
The reasoning behind two diodes
If we look at a full wave bridge, in my understanding, a coil pulsed with ac has both pos and neg pulses on each end of a coil.
If only one diode is used the end with the diode will stay either pos or neg depending on the diode's orientation but the other end will receive both pos and neg pulses which will cause the ions on that end to join back together since both pos and neg ions are being formed.

A full wave bridge may work better but the half wave may cause tension in the field being only half is being rectified.

Dave your intuition is misleading you. The reason that a full wave bridge has diodes at both ends of a coil is that a single diode approximates a single pole single throw switch, and in order to ful-wave rectify an AC signal, two single pole double throw switches are needed. We can make an SPDT switch out of two SPST switches. IE we can get half of the DPDT switch with two diodes on one end of the transformer, and the second half with two more at the other end. However, a half wave rectifier only needs to block reverse conduction, so a simple SPST switch, IE single diode is completely adequate.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 21, 2014, 07:08:34 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 20, 2014, 11:30:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVWquWFjnCw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVWquWFjnCw)

It takes alot of energy to ionize matter but very little to ionize air.

Air is matter. What are you trying to get at?
Ionization energy depends on the material. Heavy atoms including gases ionize much more easily than light atoms for all the reasons in the linked video. A funny side note is that this elementary bit of chemistry was completely unknown to Dr. Dr. Con, John Rohner who unstated many times that the helium in his cylinders ionizes first and the xenon last, when precisely the opposite is true.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 21, 2014, 07:11:02 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 20, 2014, 11:50:47 AM
I know this is not what we are taught but a diode conducts both directions pos energy in the forward direction and neg energy in the reverse.
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2014/cySfvR.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2014/zLW9Hh.gif

Electrons actually move from neg to pos, so look at the orientation of a circuit and the diode, neg electrons are moving through the diodes reverse direction.

Well it's not positive and negative energy per-se. But you are onto an important point and that is that diodes rectify currents. They do not discriminate between greater and lesser energy, which is why Johnson noise harvesting schemes such as those promoted by Thomas Valone and others do not and cannot work.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 21, 2014, 07:14:05 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 20, 2014, 01:36:49 PM
Bob I have thought along those lines, this should take reactive power out of the primary.

That really depends on what the load looks like and the turns ratio. A well coupled transformer operated in the forward mode (like a line transformer) stores very little reactive energy. A really good transformer will only store about 1% of the power that goes to the load. In an AC mains set-up, that 1% is largely returned to the power source each cycle.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 21, 2014, 07:18:06 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 20, 2014, 02:23:00 PM
After rereading your post I guess this is not what you had in mind.
The secondary's fields can be rectified so not a problem, the problem lies in the bemf of the primary, it fights the oncoming pulse, kindof like a car on a one way street going against traffic, the capacitor relieves this problem as in a tank circuit but also destroys energy.

The diodes should relieve this problem and capture the bemf as well as rectify it for use in the circuit.

Tight coupling between the transformer primary and secondary reduces leakage inductance to low values. A really good transformer reflects the secondary to the primary with almost no additional inserted impedance. A properly chosen capacitor can resonantly null out the impedance of the remaining leakage inductance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 21, 2014, 09:35:59 AM

Diodes act like filters
Look at these two sch. nothing changes except the direction of the diodes, one produces neg ions and the other pos ions.

In an ion gen where both polarity's are allowed access to the environment ion clouds form, both pos and neg. Now if electricity only flowed through the diode in the forward direction an ion cloud would form around the pos electrode and a deficit would be created around the neg electrode, but thats not what happens.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 21, 2014, 11:08:04 AM

Dave the diodes in the output sections of both of those circuits are part of voltage doubling networks. During one half phase the capacitor attached to the transformer secondary charges through the vertical capacitor. During the opposite phase, that capacitor discharges through the horizontal diode into the output capacitor.

In electronics, the term "filter" means "frequency selective network". The diodes in your example do not function to filter energy on a frequency dependent basis. They just pass current based on the direction of potential imparted across them.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 21, 2014, 11:56:29 AM

This is not an insult but you are so ingrained with what you were taught you have lost all common since, a capacitor does not pass current it acts like a spring bouncing energy back through the circuit.
You are highly educated but need to start thinking for yourself, there's no telling what you would come up with.

All the best
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 21, 2014, 03:49:30 PM

Quote from: MarkE on July 21, 2014, 11:08:04 AM
Dave the diodes in the output sections of both of those circuits are part of voltage doubling networks. During one half phase the capacitor attached to the transformer secondary charges through the vertical capacitor. During the opposite phase, that capacitor discharges through the horizontal diode into the output capacitor.

In electronics, the term "filter" means "frequency selective network". The diodes in your example do not function to filter energy on a frequency dependent basis. They just pass current based on the direction of potential imparted across them.

The way I see it the neg energy is bounced back and forth through the secondary while the pos energy is allowed to exit through the diode----pos ion gen

The opposite is true for the neg gen.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 21, 2014, 07:18:24 PM

Can free energy be had, can it be understood.
Not by conventional physics
But is very simple if you understand
A coil pulsed with pos energy gives back neg energy
A coil pulsed with neg energy gives back pos energy

What does that mean
A boost converter uses an npn transistor to pulse a coil with neg electrons and the return or bemf is pos, higher voltage.
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2014/zLW9Hh.gif

A buck converter uses a pnp transistor to pulse a coil with pos energy and the return or bemf is neg, higher amperage.
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2014/cySfvR.gif

This breaks no laws is not pseudoscience, its based on the law of attraction and repulsion of like and unlike charges.

So why isnt a buck boost converter overunity?
In most if not all buck boost circuit's the same coil is used.

Lets look at static neutralizers, they use the same principles.
A static neutralizer is just an ion gen that uses two electrodes to ionize the air, both electrodes are placed in close proximity to each other and the work surface to be neutralized, the charges are separated and recombined in a small area effectively neutralizing any static on the work surface.

The same is happening with the buck boost converter's that use the same coil, the coil is ionizing the air around it but because they are using the same coil any charges are being neutralized.

Two separate coils must be used, They must be separated.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 21, 2014, 07:29:39 PM

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
The coil is pulsed with pos or neg energy and gives back an equal but opposite reaction.

To get more from the system than is put in the coils need to be ionized using a separate ionizing circuit.

The ionizing the coils create is proportional to the energy being applied.

Give the coils something to draw from.

If the coil is in and ionized cloud it has a source to draw from that is greater than the energy applied.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 21, 2014, 07:36:02 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 21, 2014, 11:56:29 AM
This is not an insult but you are so ingrained with what you were taught you have lost all common since, a capacitor does not pass current it acts like a spring bouncing energy back through the circuit.
You are highly educated but need to start thinking for yourself, there's no telling what you would come up with.

All the best
dave

Dave if you misuse terms then it becomes very difficult to communicate.

For all practical purposes a capacitor "passes" AC current even though the dielectric prevents charge from passing plate to plate. In the instant case, charge is drawn to the plates of the horizontal capacitors in one half of the cycle, and driven from the plates in the other half of the cycle. Undulating current can be measured anywhere in the loop consisting of the: transformer secondary, horizontal capacitor, and vertical diode.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 21, 2014, 07:43:28 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 21, 2014, 03:49:30 PM
The way I see it the neg energy is bounced back and forth through the secondary while the pos energy is allowed to exit through the diode----pos ion gen

The opposite is true for the neg gen.

Current flows in the direction of applied voltage. The transformer secondary in both cases loads the primary on both half cycles. Take the positive ion generator as an example:

During the half cycle where the transformer winding swings negatively top to bottom, the horizontal capacitor charges. Power transfers from the transformer primary to the horizontal capacitor through the vertical diode. During the next half cycle where the transformer winding swing positively top to bottom, the vertical capacitor charges. Power transfers from the transformer primary through the horizontal capacitor, horizontal diode and vertical capacitor. "Positive power", ie a load appears across the input power source each and every half cycle.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 21, 2014, 07:46:16 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 21, 2014, 07:29:39 PM
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
The coil is pulsed with pos or neg energy and gives back an equal but opposite reaction.

To get more from the system than is put in the coils need to be ionized using a separate ionizing circuit.

The ionizing the coils create is proportional to the energy being applied.

Give the coils something to draw from.

If the coil is in and ionized cloud it has a source to draw from that is greater than the energy applied.

Dave you seem to be confusing force with energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 21, 2014, 08:04:24 PM

Lol

Why does a coil pulsed with dc give an ac signal back ;)

neg pulse pos return

or pos pulse neg return

expanding magnetic field - collapsing magnetic field

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 21, 2014, 08:07:28 PM

We use the term magnetic field but actually its its the electric field that collapses into the coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 21, 2014, 10:18:54 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESeb-sPIFsA

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on July 21, 2014, 10:36:20 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtDAK7Umk7A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtDAK7Umk7A)

...nor Daniel...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 22, 2014, 10:38:32 AM

Knock Knock Knock its dave
I got the goods open up
Lol

Dave's not here
lol

Thanks MH I needed a laugh ;D

Thats what I feel like talking on this forum

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 22, 2014, 11:11:40 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 21, 2014, 08:04:24 PM
Lol

Why does a coil pulsed with dc give an ac signal back ;)

neg pulse pos return

or pos pulse neg return

expanding magnetic field - collapsing magnetic field

A coil pulsed with a voltage does not necessarily give AC back. How the coil behaves all depends on the switching circuit connected to the coil and the parasitics around that switch or switches. In an idealized configuration, the current smoothly transitions from the path through one switch to the path through another. Clean hard switching circuits manage this without ringing as do soft-switching configurations.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 22, 2014, 11:15:58 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 21, 2014, 08:07:28 PM
We use the term magnetic field but actually its its the electric field that collapses into the coil.

In low frequency situations we can talk about separate electric and magnetic fields. In those cases it is most definitely the magnetic field that decays when by either increasing the external impedance and/or reducing the applied voltage in the direction of the current flow we decrease the current flow towards zero, and/or continue through zero to reverse the current.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 22, 2014, 08:37:11 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 23, 2014, 07:50:09 AM

Notice the position of the spark gap, its ionizing the electric field of the coil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-NLBSBRsBM

Do you think he really needs an open spark gap if it didnt serve another purpose besides just pulsing energy? I dont think so not with the alternatives we have today.
Unless the gap is ionizing the field ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 23, 2014, 08:10:44 AM

The aether is there but its in dielectric form and just like water it has to be split apart to be of use.

The earth is a big capacitor pos ionosphere, neg planet, dielectric atmosphere.

For energy to exchange between the outer pos and inner neg the air has to be ionized we see this in lightning, a self healing capacitor.

When pos and neg charges meet they give off energy and combine, become neutral, nothing is destroyed.

Need to start thinking in pos and neg charges instead of voltage.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 23, 2014, 08:27:55 AM

knock knock its dave

dave's not here

roflmao
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on July 23, 2014, 09:18:25 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 23, 2014, 07:50:09 AM
Notice the position of the spark gap, its ionizing the electric field of the coil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-NLBSBRsBM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-NLBSBRsBM)

Do you think he really needs an open spark gap if it didnt serve another purpose besides just pulsing energy? I dont think so not with the alternatives we have today.
Unless the gap is ionizing the field ;)

Ionizing the field? What can that mean I wonder. Is that like mowing the sky? Or washing your maps?

The spark gap serves a very important purpose, and never doubt that. The gap is one of the several necessary Red Herrings in the Kapanadze fable, which distract you from examining closely the actual operating conditions of the apparatus.

(If you must think of fields and ionization, it is the field that ionizes the ions, not the other way around. Points and other tight-radius curves concentrate the electric field gradient at those places and it is the gradient in the field that rips apart molecules, tearing off electrons or adding them, making ions and streaming them out along the fictitious electric field lines. This stream of ions, if dense enough, can carry substantial currents and in fact can become a true plasma if there are enough ions and enough current, and is essentially a conductive short-circuit. Make all of this happen between a couple of your own electrodes and you have... a sparking spark gap. )

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 23, 2014, 09:39:02 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 23, 2014, 09:18:25 AM

(If you must think of fields and ionization, it is the field that ionizes the ions, not the other way around. Points and other tight-radius curves concentrate the electric field gradient at those places and it is the gradient in the field that rips apart molecules, tearing off electrons or adding them, making ions and streaming them out along the fictitious electric field lines.

First you say its the field that ionizes the ions, then you say the field is fictitious ???

Ok a lot of fancy talk to say nothing, but hey it sounded good.

Here's your fictitious field.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 23, 2014, 04:13:45 PM

Thought I'd post this as a kind of micro scale example of how bemf can be redirected into a circuit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGHAMMEm8lo&list=UUVesA155Der2tRd5vpyYdJw&index=2&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGHAMMEm8lo&list=UUVesA155Der2tRd5vpyYdJw&index=2&feature=plcp)
Schematic and explanation begin at 30 seconds mark. I believe this is a simplified example of Tito's energy amplification principle. I don't believe it rules out anything anyone's been saying, especially Dave45 with the ionization dimension. I just think it's a key part of the puzzle.

The question for me now is how to apply this concept with coils and energy amplification. If you think about it, you're returning bemf back to the source thousands of times per second, and this can add up quickly. I now believe I know why Tito was careful with his disclaimers about the dangers of larger setups (that is, larger than the one linked above). In this sense, I think this was why Teets as of late was also encouraging energy amplification with multiple wires (i.e., litz wire), to keep voltage lower, less lethal.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on July 23, 2014, 06:09:41 PM

Hi Bob,

Would like to notice a few things on your above example of "how bemf can be redirected into a circuit".

In the schematic shown in the video, you can see that the diode is in parallel with the coil. This means that the voltage spike created across the coil (just after the reed switch turns off) is fully shunted by the diode and cannot reach the battery to charge it. However, the current is maintained in the coil via the diode till the energy of the spike is fully consumed of course and this has the benefit of reducing the needed ON time for the reed switch: without the diode the ON time would be higher for the switch, so the total input energy would be a bit higher without the parallel diode. Igor said in the video that the bemf goes back to the battery but in fact it does not, still it gives a certain "gain" though.

I do not know whether you noticed his 2nd part video on his setup, where he omitted the diode which was in parallel with the coil and used a white LED in parallel with the reed switch? In fact this modification was suggested by another youtube user and Igor shows a new schematic. In this circuit the voltage spike is indeed rectified and guided back to the battery via the white LED, so the input battery could take charge from the spikes. Of course the spikes energy could be collected in a separate puffer capacitor too if needed.

The white LED has a higher than 3V or so forward voltage drop, this proves that indeed the spikes from the coil operate it and not the 1.3V battery voltage.

Here is the link to his 2nd video on the reed switch spinner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWvI7T7h3tk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWvI7T7h3tk)

I believe it would be a further improvement to place an electrolitic capacitor of some hundred uF or maybe higher directly across the input DC + and - contacts AND to connect the input battery via a series low forward drop diode to those DC input contacts: this way the backemf would go into the capacitor and the average voltage across it could go higher than the battery voltage, the diode would separate the battery voltage from the cap voltage and current would be taken from the battery when the cap voltage would be consumed by the circuit below the battery voltage. I attached a schematic from the video with these suggestions, the diode in series with the battry must be a Germanium or low barrier Schottky type to reduce loss to a minimum.

On your pondering whether the returning of the bemf to the source has any effect on energy amplification: I think it still remains to be proved by tests. My take on this is that these circuits as shown can reduce input power consumption, that is certain.

rgds, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 23, 2014, 06:50:43 PM

Hi Gyula
Many thanks for your thoughtful response to my post. I will be going over it in detail and reflecting on it over the next couple of days. My initial inspiration on reintroducing/redirecting bemf came from some posts by a fellow named John Myatt. He seems to have a handle on how Tesla and Stan Meyer were able to amplify their energy thorough the use of a diode and reintroducing bemf to the circuit. Here's the link to his info that I posted a few pages back (see also post below it):
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg410379/#msg410379 (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg410379/#msg410379)
I wish to explore this bemf reintroduction further, and will try to concentrate my efforts in this direction.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 23, 2014, 10:15:52 PM

Hey Bob
I must have missed that post somehow.
A very interesting read on the WFC and Tesla choke.

A few months back I ran across V8carlos's work,
He used a bifilar primary, pulsed one winding and ran the bemf from that winding into the other winding and reported overunity results.
He put out a pdf this is the schematic from that pdf.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dllabarre on July 23, 2014, 10:34:59 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 23, 2014, 10:15:52 PM
Hey Bob
I must have missed that post somehow.
A very interesting read on the WFC and Tesla choke.

A few months back I ran across V8carlos's work,
He used a bifilar primary, pulsed one winding and ran the bemf from that winding into the other winding and reported overunity results.
He put out a pdf this is the schematic from that pdf.

Do you have a link to V8carlos' pdf?

Thanks
DonL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 24, 2014, 12:12:44 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L0g7zNVWQo&index=31&list=PL4C5B832C10CB9C9E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L0g7zNVWQo&index=31&list=PL4C5B832C10CB9C9E)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lka6d6DDBs&index=27&list=PL4C5B832C10CB9C9E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lka6d6DDBs&index=27&list=PL4C5B832C10CB9C9E)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL_Gasok8xw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL_Gasok8xw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eQp4grGdqY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eQp4grGdqY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek8keardyGs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek8keardyGs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdigocIvRMg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdigocIvRMg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuTMYgQDUzs&list=PLDC9F40DD5D92136D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuTMYgQDUzs&list=PLDC9F40DD5D92136D)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQaAvhF17NA&index=19&list=PLDC9F40DD5D92136D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQaAvhF17NA&index=19&list=PLDC9F40DD5D92136D)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFy2rSdO5TY&index=21&list=PLDC9F40DD5D92136D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFy2rSdO5TY&index=21&list=PLDC9F40DD5D92136D)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujwod-vqyqA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ7PbRdttBI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on July 24, 2014, 02:48:18 AM

ENERGY AMPLIFICATION = ENERGY CELERATION
ac-/de-
catalysis
cata~genesis/ (e-)volution

f.e.: rotatory
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Rotoverter (http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Rotoverter)

Cutting the Voltage in half also cuts the current in half, which cuts the Power input by 75%!
VOLTAGE CELERATION is ( VOLTAGE + CURRENT ) CELERATION

( Once the motor is Power Factor Corrected for this voltage, the motor will appear to run on NEARLY NOTHING!!!! And of course, that is the point.)

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19790215&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19790215&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

Mukherjee Rotoverter,first published 1977

Durch das Magnetfeld der elektrischen Einrichtung fliesst infolge der Leiter an dem Anker in der gewünschten Richtung ein einseitig gerichteter Strom, wodurch auf den Anker durch sein Magnetfeld und somit auf die Welle fortlaufend eine Kraft ausgeübt wird, die die von dem Generator ausgeübte Gegenkraft kompensiert.[/font]Wenn bei einem herkömmlichen Generator die Feldstärke B, die Länge seiner Leiter mit L und der durchfliessende Strom mit I bezeichnet wird, ergibt sich die Grösse der Gegenkraft F, die auf den Leiter und somit auf die Welle ausgeübt wird zu F = BLI.Wenn die Feldstärke der elektrischen Einrichtung 2B, die Länge seines Leiters L beträgt und nur ein Strom durchfiiesst, dessen Stärke der Hälfte des im Generator fliessenden Stroms entspricht, beträgt die auf den Anker ausgeübte Kraft F' = 2B x L x 1 = LI. 2 Dies zeigt, dass die auf den Anker der elektrischen Einrichtung und somit auf die treibende Welle ausgeübte Kraft gleich der Gegenkraft ist, die auf die Welle von dem herkömmlichen Generator ausgeübt wird. Die Kraft wird erzeugt, dass sie in einer solchen Richtung wirkt, dass sie die Gegenkraft kompensiert. Ein etwas stärkerer Stromfluss sorgt für das erforderliche Drehmoment an der Welle. Deshalb werden die Welle und somit der Anker weiterbewegt und elektrische Energie erzeugt.Um diesen halben Strom durch die elektrische Einrichtung fliessen zu lassen, ist die Hälfte der Generatorspannung erforderlich. So mit wird 1/4 der erzeugten Leistung verloren, um der Verzögerungskraft engegenzuwirken. Die verbleibenden 3/4 der erzeugten Energie bzw. etwas weniger davon stehen für den Aussenverbrauch zur Verfügung.Wenn die Feldstärke der elektrischen Einrichtung ein Vielfaches der Feldstärke des Generators beträgt, beispielsweise das 5-Fache, ist es erforderlich, dass 1/5 des erzeugten Stroms in der elektrischen Einrichtung fliesst, um die kompensierende Kraft zu erzeugen. 1/5 der erzeugten Spannung ist dabei für den Stromfluss erforderlich. Somit wird 1/25 oder 4% der erzeugten Energie in der elektrischen Einrichtung verbraucht, während 96% oder etwas weniger davon für den Aussenverbrauch zur Verfügung stehen. Auf diese Weise ist es nicht erforderlich, dass irgendeine elektrische Energie von einer externen Quelle in den Generator gemäss der Erfindung zur Erzeugung von elektrischer Energie eingeführt wird.

partial Mukherjee Rotoverter description

Saxonian 2 Anglo-Saxonian translatory :

By the magnetic field of the electrical device to flow due to the head of the anchor in the desired direction is a unidirectional flow, thereby continuously exerting a force on the armature by means of its magnetic field and therefore to the shaft, which compensates for the force exerted by the generator counterforce. in a conventional generator, the field strength B, the length of its conductor L and the current flowing through is denoted I, the result is the size of the reaction force F which is exerted on the conductor and thus to the shaft to F = BLI ., if the field strength of the electric apparatus 2B, the length of his head is L and only one current durchfiiesst, corresponds to the thickness of half of the current flowing in the generator current, is the force exerted on the armature force F '= 2B x L x 1 = LI. 2 This shows that the force exerted on the armature of the electrical device, and thus the driving shaft of the motor is equal to counter force which will be exerted on the shaft from the conventional generator. The force is generated to act in a direction such that it compensates the reaction force. A stronger current flow provides the required torque to the shaft. Therefore, the shaft, and hence the armature continues to move and allow electrical energy to flow erzeugt.Um half this current flows through the electrical device, the half of the voltage generator is required. So with is 1/4 of the power generated is lost to engegenzuwirken the retarding force. The remaining 3/4 of the energy generated, or slightly less of it available for outdoor use for Verfügung.

Wenn the field strength of the electrical device is a multiple of the field strength of the generator, for example, 5 times, it is necessary that 1/5 of the produced current flows in the electrical device in order to generate the compensating force. 1/5 of the generated voltage is required for the current flow. Thus, 1/25 or 4% of the energy produced is consumed in the electric device, while 96% or less of which are for outdoor use are available.

In this way it is not necessary that any electrical energy from an external source is introduced into the generator according to the invention for generating electric energy.

q.e.d. ,the overunity-formula abstracts and concrets

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relatively cheap rotoverter mosaic object fabrication,open source :
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=5&adjacent=true&FT=D&date=19940614&CC=US&NR=5319844A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=5&adjacent=true&FT=D&date=19940614&CC=US&NR=5319844A&KC=A)

5hp/lbs power/material density

the vision :
the 10 US$/ KW revolving e-gas-turbine

like Roy Kessinger,Lynx Motion Technology, "low cost" prophecy :
http://www.katech.com/katfiles/people.html (http://www.katech.com/katfiles/people.html)

as dynamoelectric multi-slice-motor and as multi-slice-generator
with production costs going down to 5US$/hp

and Reinhardts ex-spectation about Co-Gen costs:
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2009/04/concept-compact-twocycle-cogenerating-pistondriven-turbine-to-deliver-60-efficiency.html (http://www.greencarcongress.com/2009/04/concept-compact-twocycle-cogenerating-pistondriven-turbine-to-deliver-60-efficiency.html) :

The Reinhardt Turbine is designed to be compact, cost-effective and easy to manufacture. Andrews estimates that the manufactured cost per kW will be less than $10, so a 30 kW engine would cost around $300

Have a good day
OCWL

p.s.: alternatively ram pump ( in memoriam Toribio Bellocq )
http://www.rexresearch.com/Kutienkov/kutienkov.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/Kutienkov/kutienkov.htm)

Cost of used materials and manufacturing from them details for the given generator, as claim its developers,does not exceed 10EUR/kW.

10 EUR/KW ,
the aristocratic Bench-Mark
10 US$/KW

1Cent/Wp-Nantennas and Nano-machines :

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860304&CC=US&NR=4574161A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860304&CC=US&NR=4574161A&KC=A)
Polarizing sheets are now articles commercially manufactured by a bulk process at low cost by a large scale special film casting machine, the basic cost being about $1 per m@2 (1984 dollars). The present invention utilizes a similar bulk process. The casting composition@3 is modified to employ the special heteropolymer of this invention made on a similar casting machine@4. The cost should be comparable. The extra cost of electroding and laminating will add only a few dollars per m@2 so the total should be about $5/m@2 (500 w), about 50.cent./sq. ft. The efficiency will remain in the 60-80% range. Thus solar energy will become available everywhere at about 1.cent./watt; or, an investment cost of $10/KW.

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A)

The reversible thermoelectric converter used as a heat pump differs from the use of the reversible thermoelectric converter for power conversion in that means is used to reverse the current through the diodes 10 and 20. Current reversal can be obtained by applying a voltage from a DC source 52 between the output terminals 14 and 24. Alternatively, a voltage can be applied between the terminals of diode 20 to obtain current reversal. The current reversal occurs when the voltage applied by DC source 52 has a larger magnitude and opposite polarity as compared with the open circuit output voltage of the reversible thermoelectric converter. The ratio of the open circuit voltage to the contact potential across the diode electrodes is given by (Tr /Tc -1).[/font]The reversible thermoelectric converter shown in FIG. 1 can be used to provide an AC power output. For AC operation, the current through the reversible thermoelectric converter is reversed cyclically so that the converter generates a cyclic electric or thermal power output. A cyclic input can be applied between the terminals 22 and 24 of the cold diode 20 so as to generate a cyclic output with the same waveform as the input. The frequency of the cyclic output power can be as great as the frequency corresponding to the relaxation time of the reversible thermoelectric converter, which can be less than 10@-14 second. When a cyclic or AC input is used, the reversible thermoelectric converter can function as an amplifier.Use of the reversible thermoelectric converter as an amplifier is shown schematically in FIG. 7. An AC signal Pin is applied to quantum well diode 20 at a low temperature Tc and input thermal energy is applied to quantum well diode 10 at a high temperature Tr. The AC signal Pin can be in the form of thermal energy, such as optical photons, or in the form of electric energy, such as a voltage applied across terminals 22 and 24 of diode 20. The output electric energy Pout is an AC signal with the waveform of the input signal Pin. The amplification factor is given by (Tr@2 /Tc@2)-1, where the input AC signal is applied to the cold diode at temperature Tc in the form of thermal or electrical energy.By way of example, an input signal of 6 microwatts with a bandwidth of 1 gigahertz is applied to diode 20 either as thermal energy or electric energy, and thermal energy is applied to diode 10. A signal-to-noise ration of 60 dB is obtained for the input signal for a temperature Tc of the cold diode 20 of 300 DEG K. For a temperature Tr of hot electrons in diode 10 of 6000 DEG K., the amplification of the input signal is 26 dB, which gives an output signal of 2.4 milliwatts. The amplified output signal also has a 60 dB signal-to-noise ratio.Use of the reversible thermoelectric converter as a refrigerator is shown in FIG. 8. In this case, thermal energy is transferred out of a low temperature region 54 at temperature Tc containing quantum well diode 20, and thermal energy is given off by quantum well diode 10 at a higher temperature Tr. A DC source 56 connected between output terminals 14 and 24 causes the normal direction of current in the reversible thermoelectric converter to be reversed, as described above in connection with the heat pump of FIG. 6. The refrigeration cycle shown in FIG. 8 is similar in concept to the heat pump cycle shown in FIG. 6 and described above.The quantum well structure in the quantum well diode contains the thermal energy of the hot electrons throughout the period of time required for the input thermal energy to be converted to electric energy by reversible electron transitions between energy levels. The quantum well diode serves a similar function for the heat pump process. The elimination of the requirement for a separate thermal barrier in the reversible thermoelectric converter of the present invention permits low cost, state of the art fabrication of the converter from thin films of common materials such as, for example, copper and aluminum.
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In the nonplanar reversible thermoelectric converter of FIG. 10, electrode 136 can be a 100 angstrom evaporated copper film, barrier layer 140 can be a 12 angstrom evaporated aluminum oxide film, electrode 138 can be a 140 angstrom evaporated aluminum film, barrier layer 148 can be a 700 angstrom deposited indium tin oxide transparent conducting film, electrode 142 can be a 280 angstrom evaporated aluminum film, barrier layer 146 can be a 12 angstrom evaporated aluminum oxide film and electrode 144 can be a 140 angstrom evaporated copper film. Terminal 154 is typically connected to terminal 156. For this embodiment of the invention, 1 kilowatt of output power is available per square centimeter of active area of the quantum well diodes.
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Who understands the rotoverter principle,the Diods/Condensator/Capacitor use function
and the Joseph Yater nanoscale reversible heat-refrigeration-pump and nano-scale thermal-noise/voltaic amplifier function will now not more have logical resistances to understand this micro-scale amplifier concept:

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940318&CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940318&CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3)

( and will also find calculating errors : the given example not near 11 KW,but more in the 3KW range)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dllabarre on July 24, 2014, 07:08:44 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 23, 2014, 10:15:52 PM
Hey Bob
I must have missed that post somehow.
A very interesting read on the WFC and Tesla choke.

A few months back I ran across V8carlos's work,
He used a bifilar primary, pulsed one winding and ran the bemf from that winding into the other winding and reported overunity results.
He put out a pdf this is the schematic from that pdf.

Do you have a link to V8carlos' pdf?ThanksDonL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 24, 2014, 07:44:32 AM

I saved it, let me see if I can upload it.
Not sure how to upload pdf files.

Do a search for V8karlos on this forum, he came here in 2012, got ran off by the "know it all's" on this forum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 24, 2014, 08:19:10 AM

Non inverted buck boost converter using separate chokes ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 24, 2014, 10:26:28 AM

Im going to have to build another WFC.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 24, 2014, 12:01:46 PM

Complementary transistors

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 24, 2014, 01:11:09 PM

The convergence is happening (I hope). ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 24, 2014, 01:18:15 PM

Counsel
I understood a little while ago when you made the statement of using sever thousand horsepower put into a condenser, you could take out of the condenser a million horsepower. I wondered if you got the same condition with this machine.
Tesla
Yes; I charged the condenser with 40,000 volts. When it was charged full, I discharged it suddenly, through a short circuit which gave me a very rapid rate of oscillation. Let us suppose that I had stored in the condenser 10 watts. Then, for such a wave there is a flux of energy of (4 x 10^4)^2, and this is multiplied by the frequency of 100,000. You see, it may go into thousands or millions of horsepower.
Counsel
What I wanted to get at was, did that depend upon the suddenness of the discharge?
Tesla
Yes. It is merely the electrical analogue of a pile driver or a hammer. You accumulate energy through a long distance and then you deliver it with a tremendous suddenness. The distance through which the mass moves is small--the pressure immense.
Source: Leland Anderson, NT on His Work With Alternating Currents, p. 68.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on July 24, 2014, 04:27:43 PM

Hi Bob,

I am aware of the quote you refer to above. I think you understand what does the Tesla example of storing 10W in the capacitor i.e. saying it more precisely: storing 10 Joule energy in the capacitor mean?
OF course it means you can take out 10W power in 1 second or if you prefer, you can take out 100W power in 0.1 second or 1000W in 0.01 second and so on. The big question is that how the hugh power available for a fraction of time could be utilized, how its sudden effect could be exploited to "gain" extra energy? This is the question.

Tesla seemed to give an answer for that question: discharge the cap very quickly into a small inductance coil which magnetically connected to a high inductance coil. However, he received extreme high voltages on the top end of his Tesla coil and obviously the coil stored huge amounts of circulating VAR power inside it.
Now how you could utilize this "big" power: if you load the coil in any way i.e. you match a load to it, you transform 'loss' i.e. the load into the coil and if somebody thinks that still there remains more energy in the coil than what was needed to charge up the capacitor at the start, then he or she has to prove it... to believe it. It is known Tesla used HV generators in a continuous fashion to charge up the capacitors what he then suddenly discharged into the low inductance primary of the Tesla coil setup.

Still, if we are to believe that we can receive more energy from such process, then we have to prove it. Maybe Tito managed it to prove for himself, he keeps silence on the how to...

You have referred to John Myatt: he seems to utilize the hugh HV for driving water fuel cell: i.e. he receives other energy type in the form of hydrogen and oxigen) in the end process what he utilizes. I do not know if he gets more energy output in the end than the input was?

Returning to Igor's videos, what I wrote and included his schematic yesterday with some modification: maybe it is one step towards the idea of adding the bemf to the input but thinking it over now it seems to be limited in itself: it has but one stage so the capacitor voltage bounds to stay at a steady average voltage level (which may be a bit higher than the battery voltage but cannot go higher and higher). So several stages should be used and their output are gradually to be added up.
What John Myatt showed in his video on the "Tesla regenerative effect" I do not get it: he seems to add up two output voltages from two LC circuits on the oscilloscope display and the amplitudes of two frequencies gradually increase? What makes them increase I wonder? (this is the Myatt video you referred to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM )

Rgds, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 24, 2014, 04:58:15 PM

If the buck converter ran at double or even triple the frequency of the boost then the cap would build up and dump into the boost converter.
You could hit the cell with very high voltage pulses, very high.
Lots of possibility's with this circuit.
It could also be set up to hit the cell with very high amperage pulses.
Ionize the coils ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 24, 2014, 07:17:59 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on July 24, 2014, 04:27:43 PM
Hi Bob,

I am aware of the quote you refer to above. I think you understand what does the Tesla example of storing 10W in the capacitor i.e. saying it more precisely: storing 10 Joule energy in the capacitor mean?
OF course it means you can take out 10W power in 1 second or if you prefer, you can take out 100W power in 0.1 second or 1000W in 0.01 second and so on. The big question is that how the hugh power available for a fraction of time could be utilized, how its sudden effect could be exploited to "gain" extra energy? This is the question.

Tesla seemed to give an answer for that question: discharge the cap very quickly into a small inductance coil which magnetically connected to a high inductance coil. However, he received extreme high voltages on the top end of his Tesla coil and obviously the coil stored huge amounts of circulating VAR power inside it.
Now how you could utilize this "big" power: if you load the coil in any way i.e. you match a load to it, you transform 'loss' i.e. the load into the coil and if somebody thinks that still there remains more energy in the coil than what was needed to charge up the capacitor at the start, then he or she has to prove it... to believe it. It is known Tesla used HV generators in a continuous fashion to charge up the capacitors what he then suddenly discharged into the low inductance primary of the Tesla coil setup.

Still, if we are to believe that we can receive more energy from such process, then we have to prove it. Maybe Tito managed it to prove for himself, he keeps silence on the how to...

You have referred to John Myatt: he seems to utilize the hugh HV for driving water fuel cell: i.e. he receives other energy type in the form of hydrogen and oxigen) in the end process what he utilizes. I do not know if he gets more energy output in the end than the input was?

Returning to Igor's videos, what I wrote and included his schematic yesterday with some modification: maybe it is one step towards the idea of adding the bemf to the input but thinking it over now it seems to be limited in itself: it has but one stage so the capacitor voltage bounds to stay at a steady average voltage level (which may be a bit higher than the battery voltage but cannot go higher and higher). So several stages should be used and their output are gradually to be added up.
What John Myatt showed in his video on the "Tesla regenerative effect" I do not get it: he seems to add up two output voltages from two LC circuits on the oscilloscope display and the amplitudes of two frequencies gradually increase? What makes them increase I wonder? (this is the Myatt video you referred to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM) )

Rgds, Gyula

Hi Gyula
Thanks for the thoughtful response. I think at this point we have at least a clearer idea of how to proceed with trying to develop Tito's concepts. Tesla gives us the principle, but within his scope of developing large amounts of power, and it seems John Myatt (from Stan Meyer) has used it for his wfc purposes. Igor's video, I think, is useful for illustrating a similar kind of bemf feedback concept that needs to be refined and adapted to our purposes, in light of what Tesla (and Myatt/Meyer) says. My sense is that we need to keep looking at practical ways in which these principles have been developed and implemented, and discussing ways we can develop them ourselves. I think this is what Dave45 is doing - we all bring to the virtual table our gifts and insights.

Perhaps 10 or 15 pages back, Tito mentioned that he was considering how he could find off-the-shelf components to develop this technology. I think this might be a direction for us to proceed once we've identified how to harness this beast and use it to our purposes. It's really great to see this quest progressing and narrowing.

I have no additional answers right now other than to express my appreciation and admiration for the ongoing contributions of persons like yourself to this discussion.
Bob

PS: Teets, those epic fail videos make me wince! Ouch!!! :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 24, 2014, 10:09:45 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on July 24, 2014, 04:27:43 PM
Hi Bob,

I am aware of the quote you refer to above. I think you understand what does the Tesla example of storing 10W in the capacitor i.e. saying it more precisely: storing 10 Joule energy in the capacitor mean?
OF course it means you can take out 10W power in 1 second or if you prefer, you can take out 100W power in 0.1 second or 1000W in 0.01 second and so on. The big question is that how the hugh power available for a fraction of time could be utilized, how its sudden effect could be exploited to "gain" extra energy? This is the question.

Tesla seemed to give an answer for that question: discharge the cap very quickly into a small inductance coil which magnetically connected to a high inductance coil. However, he received extreme high voltages on the top end of his Tesla coil and obviously the coil stored huge amounts of circulating VAR power inside it.
Now how you could utilize this "big" power: if you load the coil in any way i.e. you match a load to it, you transform 'loss' i.e. the load into the coil and if somebody thinks that still there remains more energy in the coil than what was needed to charge up the capacitor at the start, then he or she has to prove it... to believe it. It is known Tesla used HV generators in a continuous fashion to charge up the capacitors what he then suddenly discharged into the low inductance primary of the Tesla coil setup.

Still, if we are to believe that we can receive more energy from such process, then we have to prove it. Maybe Tito managed it to prove for himself, he keeps silence on the how to...

You have referred to John Myatt: he seems to utilize the hugh HV for driving water fuel cell: i.e. he receives other energy type in the form of hydrogen and oxigen) in the end process what he utilizes. I do not know if he gets more energy output in the end than the input was?

Returning to Igor's videos, what I wrote and included his schematic yesterday with some modification: maybe it is one step towards the idea of adding the bemf to the input but thinking it over now it seems to be limited in itself: it has but one stage so the capacitor voltage bounds to stay at a steady average voltage level (which may be a bit higher than the battery voltage but cannot go higher and higher). So several stages should be used and their output are gradually to be added up.
What John Myatt showed in his video on the "Tesla regenerative effect" I do not get it: he seems to add up two output voltages from two LC circuits on the oscilloscope display and the amplitudes of two frequencies gradually increase? What makes them increase I wonder? (this is the Myatt video you referred to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM) )

Rgds, Gyula

Well, consider a motor without a capacitor.
well, lately i tried to eliminate a cap from the system and it also works using just the twisted coil i taught.
And believe me we need a good spark gap controller if we really want the tesla technology. ;)

Take note: No inverter! promise!

EVERYTHING IS COIL AMAZING! 8) IT REALLY CAN LAST!!!

I SAID DON'T KILL THE MOMENTUM, LET THE STONE ICE ROLL :) 8)

ACTUALLY 10W OF POWER TO START IS TOO BIG. :-\

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE STARTING POINT OF MORRAY. ???

IN THE COLORADO SPRING NOTE, WHAT DO YOU NOTICE ABOUT TESLA'S COILS. :o

THIS THING IS REALLY SIMPLE OK. :) ;) 8)

BY THE WAY I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ERIC LAITHWAITE FOR HIS GYRO PROPULSION THAT'S AMAZING. ;) 8)
I WAN NA FLY!!!!!!!!! ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyvZGIlHEok 8)
SORRY JUST CROSSING BYE ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on July 24, 2014, 11:09:57 PM

Hello gyula,
quoting partially your message to Bob Smith:

...................

Returning to Igor's videos, what I wrote and included his schematic yesterday with some modification: maybe it is one step towards the idea of adding the bemf to the input but thinking it over now it seems to be limited in itself: it has but one stage so the capacitor voltage bounds to stay at a steady average voltage level (which may be a bit higher than the battery voltage but cannot go higher and higher). So several stages should be used and their output are gradually to be added up. [/size]What John Myatt showed in his video on the "Tesla regenerative effect" I do not get it: he seems to add up two output voltages from two LC circuits on the oscilloscope display and the amplitudes of two frequencies gradually increase? What makes them increase I wonder? (this is the Myatt video you referred to:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM)
Rgds, Gyula

I prefer to show you one of Titos delivered videos : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuTMYgQDUzs&list=PLDC9F40DD5D92136D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuTMYgQDUzs&list=PLDC9F40DD5D92136D)

The a. one down rolling ball solution and effect,11 to 11,5 cm
b. the 180° pendulum (LC circuit/cycle )solution and effect,30 cm
c. the 270°(up to 360°) double pendulum (flip&flop LC circuits/cycle )solution and effect, ? cm

LLoyd Crump http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=lloyd+crump&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=lloyd+crump&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC)
4., 5., 6., 7., 9., 10., 11., 12.

"......So several stages should be used ....." : syphon cascade Biology analogon : Turgor

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 25, 2014, 08:15:21 AM

Think about V8carlos's bifilar's

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 25, 2014, 09:36:15 AM

I think the bifilar setup that Carlos was using increases capacitance and self inductance of the coil it also allows the coil pair to ring back and forth like a tank circuit.
I will try to model the ringing in a gif when I can, got obligations today.

dave

A buck boost circuit when tuned has a very high efficiency, we can drive it over the top.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 25, 2014, 02:06:08 PM

Tito: RE Your twisted coil. Can you explain how it is made please?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on July 25, 2014, 03:35:52 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on July 24, 2014, 11:09:57 PM
....
I prefer to show you one of Titos delivered videos : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuTMYgQDUzs&list=PLDC9F40DD5D92136D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuTMYgQDUzs&list=PLDC9F40DD5D92136D)

The a. one down rolling ball solution and effect,11 to 11,5 cm
b. the 180° pendulum (LC circuit/cycle )solution and effect,30 cm
c. the 270°(up to 360°) double pendulum (flip&flop LC circuits/cycle )solution and effect, ? cm

LLoyd Crump http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=lloyd+crump&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=lloyd+crump&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC)
4., 5., 6., 7., 9., 10., 11., 12.

"......So several stages should be used ....." : syphon cascade Biology analogon : Turgor

Sincerely
OCWL

Olá Lanca,

Thanks for the additional info. Will study the patents. So it seems one has to devise circuits that are able to add up the back emf 'momentums', one after the other, to increase the initial supply voltage. Nobody has shown such specific circuits if I am correct?

Greetings, Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 25, 2014, 04:42:01 PM

ringing, keep in mind this is a bifilar coil, I just split the windings to show the ringing effect.
The timing or frequency would be critical for amplification.

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-25-2014/HCfsNB.gif (http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-25-2014/HCfsNB.gif)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 25, 2014, 08:05:27 PM

If you want to pump amps into a WFC, limited voltage if any.
I guess this would be considered a boost buck converter lol.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 25, 2014, 10:57:21 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on July 25, 2014, 02:06:08 PM
Tito: RE Your twisted coil. Can you explain how it is made please?

Two little bit ticker atleast #14awg connected from the main wire twisted but not connected at the end. ;)
i think you have to ask bob, i believe he knows it. :)

sorry i'll cannot respond anymore. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 26, 2014, 12:12:05 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 25, 2014, 10:57:21 PM

Two little bit ticker atleast #14awg connected from the main wire twisted but not connected at the end. ;)
i think you have to ask bob, i believe he knows it. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im9XuJJXylw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im9XuJJXylw) :) ;) :D ;D 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 26, 2014, 07:10:44 AM

Comon Tito just a simple generic circuit schematic to get us on the right track.
An open ended twisted bifilar winding, sounds like the magnifying transmitter.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 26, 2014, 07:56:36 AM

Tito: Do you mean like this??

Is the bifilar at the end?? :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 26, 2014, 07:59:49 AM

DC to DC converter buck boost mode.
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-26-2014/sb5dti.gif

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 26, 2014, 08:16:56 AM

My main purpose for making these gifs is to show the polarity reversal of the collapsing magnetic field.

Pos pulse neg return - neg bemf

Neg pulse pos return - pos bemf

This indicates ionization to a certain degree is taking place.

BIG CLUE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 26, 2014, 09:05:40 AM

Would an open ended bifilar winding ionize the field and collect bemf too.
I'd bet it would ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 26, 2014, 09:19:42 AM

Of course, the open end allows the coil to draw.

Like an antenna.

A source besides the battery.

Drawing energy from the ambient.

:) :) :) :) :) :)
Thank You Mr. Tito

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 26, 2014, 09:31:48 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on July 26, 2014, 12:12:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im9XuJJXylw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im9XuJJXylw) :) ;) :D ;D 8)

I went back thru my posts to see where I explained what the twisted wire cap was, but it was late, I couldn't find it and went to bed. Here's what I envisioned it to be, and I think I must've posted it, and that might be why Teets said I knew about it:

-Take 2 identical wires: Wire 1 and Wire 2, with End A and End B.
-Twist them tightly together lengthwise. Then, take End B of Wire 1 and connect it to End A of Wire 2.
-You see what we have? It's basically a small series-wound bifilar coil - not a flat pancake coil, but nevertheless, tightly coupled, mutual-field-cancelling coil that functions with the SWBF's high capacitance.
Thus, you have two ends free:
-End A of Wire 1 and End B of Wire 2 and a twisty coil in between that acts like a capacitor. It will be a lot more durable and long lasting than an ordinary cap.

This is my take on it. Hope I'm not leading anyone's capacitance astray. :)
Bob

BTW Dave, I like your last diagram. Just a question, how does the base on the npn and pnp connect up in the ct?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 26, 2014, 09:46:23 AM

The next logical question is, will a trifilar collect even more.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 26, 2014, 09:47:54 AM

Bob the connections using a feedback winding.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 26, 2014, 09:56:40 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on July 26, 2014, 09:31:48 AM
I went back thru my posts to see where I explained what the twisted wire cap was, but it was late, I couldn't find it and went to bed. Here's what I envisioned it to be, and I think I must've posted it, and that might be why Teets said I knew about it:

-Take 2 identical wires: Wire 1 and Wire 2, with End A and End B.
-Twist them tightly together lengthwise. Then, take End B of Wire 1 and connect it to End A of Wire 2.
-You see what we have? It's basically a small series-wound bifilar coil - not a flat pancake coil, but nevertheless, tightly coupled, mutual-field-cancelling coil that functions with the SWBF's high capacitance.
Thus, you have two ends free:
-End A of Wire 1 and End B of Wire 2 and a twisty coil in between that acts like a capacitor. It will be a lot more durable and long lasting than an ordinary cap.

This is my take on it. Hope I'm not leading anyone's capacitance astray. :)
Bob

BTW Dave, I like your last diagram. Just a question, how does the base on the npn and pnp connect up in the ct?

I see what your saying :) I like it, cycling through the coil, definatley worth a try.
I see free energy in the future ;D

FREE THE BONDS
BREAK THE CHAINS
VIVA LE REVOLUTION

LOL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 26, 2014, 10:41:30 AM

How can we combine these two circuits
More bang for the buck ;D and boost ;D
Awwe dave did a funny,
roflmao ;D

seriously

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 26, 2014, 10:56:48 AM

Big Bang :D
What do you think
Capacitor discharge on both sides?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 26, 2014, 11:16:00 AM

Of course we dont want to forget the open ended bifilars ;)
and the cores.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on July 26, 2014, 11:31:39 AM

I recommend it to you guys, used JFET your efficiency will greatly improve when we are talking about counter emf. The inductor should we wound with a adjustable core, a core in a inductor is really needed to achieve the Tesla charging choke.

Meow

Quote from: Dave45 on July 26, 2014, 11:16:00 AM
Of course we dont want to forget the open ended bifilars ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 26, 2014, 11:45:22 AM

Quote from: stupify12 on July 26, 2014, 11:31:39 AM
I recommend it to you guys, used JFET your efficiency will greatly improve when we are talking about counter emf. The inductor should we wound with a adjustable core, a core in a inductor is really needed to achieve the Tesla charging choke.

Meow

Agreed it increases self inductance, which you want collecting bemf.
Thanks

I'll add it to the schem.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on July 26, 2014, 04:33:04 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on July 26, 2014, 09:19:42 AM
Of course, the open end allows the coil to draw.

Like an antenna.

A source besides the battery.

Drawing energy from the ambient.

:) :) :) :) :) :)
Thank You Mr. Tito

Space-Time

ambient~ (RF) aether ~ Hyperraum/Hyperspace -Hypertime

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=41&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860717&CC=DE&NR=3501076A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=41&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860717&CC=DE&NR=3501076A1&KC=A1)

> The conventional physics so far knows only the real components of electricity, magnetism and gravity. In order to describe interactions in the form of vibrations and swirls between the aforementioned variables, however, it requires complex quantities. According to recent theories must be assumed to exist in our space and imaginary magnitudes, from the premises under certain transformation known forms of energy is possible in us.

> Using the above hyper-energy theory is meant by ferromagnetism alignment unpaired electrons (there are small hyperspace vortex) in order to establish a resultant vector field.

> In this orientation, the mirror-image spin axis positions are equivalent to positive or negative remanence, stable and real. Similar to electronic semiconductors sufficient in ferromagnetic semiconductors, a pulse with low energy for folding.

> Plant and machinery that use the hyperspace as an energy source, are no perpetuum mobile, but energy converter in the conventional sense.

> The energy of hyperspace is taken in equal quantities, eventually converted into thermal radiation, returned to hyperspace.

> The law of entropy, which presupposes the existence of two memory for energy conversion cycle process is adhered to. The first, probably inexhaustible for us humans memory is the hyperspace, the second memory and at the same time converter in conventional forms of energy, a magnetic core.

Object of the present invention is the utilization of cached in a magnetic nuclear energy for industrial purposes by conversion into electrical energy or mechanical work. The pulse magnetization is to be understood here in a figurative sense as a kind of valve control between the outer hyperspace energy storage and the magnetic core buffer.

In this case, the relation pulse duration tp, the time duration of a half cycle period z / 2 a decisive role. The reciprocal size is in the computer core memory technology as a Pulse duration duty cycle v = tf t to the pulse width defined.

0 The case tp = tz / 2, which in electrical engineering, for example, corresponds to the sinusoidal field concatenation of the primary and secondary winding for transformers and electrical machines, requires a larger internal losses to the primary-side supply of energy can be delivered as the secondary side. The converter efficiency must be less than one.

The case t <t / 2 sets to achieve a aftereffect effect, counter-pz set to tp = tz / 2 the use of magnetizable material with Speicherei oxy-afters, so with pronounced hysteresis loops ahead. For this purpose there is in the signal processing and computer technology, a variety of suitable materials. They were used in large quantities for ferrite ring cores in memory matrix framework some time ago. The requirements of data technology of magnetic core memory other than ån memory for energy technology. It is with a minimum of field strength of the envelope of the positive remanence (information content "one") to the negative remanence (information content "zero") erfolgen.Für energy technology, a magnetic core as much power as to be taken out as a product of current and voltage at the is, however, a significantly larger field strength for the envelope of the residual induction is necessary. The coercivity of the magnetic core material is the magnitude of the permissible back ampere and thus the purpose of energy deprivation before allowable current, however, the generated by cargo or commutation induction swing determines the inducible voltage. The product of current and voltage should be as large as possible. Thus, a material is needed for a power magnetic core memory, the area enclosed by the hysteresis Ummagnetisierungskurve is as large as possible.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on July 27, 2014, 11:27:57 AM

As no one here seems to be interested we'v decided to build the circuit here http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19556-sssg-osc-variations-bedini-2x-plus.html#post261301 (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19556-sssg-osc-variations-bedini-2x-plus.html#post261301)
Please join in the build, if nothing else we are going to build one heck of a DC to DC converter, and who knows maybe push it over the top. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 27, 2014, 03:55:42 PM

Dave, I think as the circuit is drawn you are at high risk of blowing up MOSFETs by excessive gate to source voltage stress. I need to think about how to fix that without making changes that you probably would not like.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on July 27, 2014, 07:24:47 PM

Can someone please tell me, just in one simple paragraph, what this circuit is actually supposed to _do_?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on July 28, 2014, 09:01:18 AM

Dave. The circuit is now looking good. I think it is much better if we utilized only 1 Battery as power source and the other is for Recovery Storage then swap it when you feel to do so. The coils should be wound like the one I have already suggested and shown on this thread which is the same as what Kapanadze is doing on his coils, Kapanadze wound it in a spire/conical fashion as per Tesla stated for best cylindrical form of this coil. You will understand what does this Winding construction does on the circuit- it seems like it boost performance when loaded, or we should say it nullifies the counter magnetic induction-which is lenz.

Why did I suggest JFET? This is the only electronics component that performs almost like the Vacuum Triode Amplifier. Vacuum Tubes or Spark gaps is the only Electronics component that I know that performs really great in achieving our goal in the Free Energy devices. We needed a switch that is not in physical contact(Semi Conductor=Semi Close Circuit) to the Coil that is being switch, we need a gap like the Vacuum Tubes does, Spark Gap, and Mechanical Rotary Gap.

Still the Tesla Charging Circuit=Tesla Charging Choke is still the best circuit I know that performs in amplifying the energy input. The Tesla Transformator Winding is the only transformer that doesn't disturbed our input oscillation on the primary side.

Semi Conductor is the reason why people cant really achieve the Free Energy that you are looking, because it is always Semi ON or Semi OFF which doesn't permit the IMPULSE overshoot to be recover and be captured by our storage.

Vacuum Tubes is the perfect switch that I know which still exist as of today. Free energy is only achieve with gap switches.

Meow

Quote from: Dave45 on July 27, 2014, 11:27:57 AM
As no one here seems to be interested we'v decided to build the circuit here http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19556-sssg-osc-variations-bedini-2x-plus.html#post261301 (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19556-sssg-osc-variations-bedini-2x-plus.html#post261301)
Please join in the build, if nothing else we are going to build one heck of a DC to DC converter, and who knows maybe push it over the top. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 28, 2014, 09:13:03 AM

FYI Guys
See the original post for Stupify's diagram.
Bob

Quote from: stupify12 on July 15, 2014, 12:55:41 PM
The winding is the same for the Primary , Secondary, and extra Secondary. It is composed of CW and CCW in halves. The circuit used to power the Transformer is a common Tesla Capacitor discharge set up. If Left is Clockwise then both Primary and Seconday on the Left side is wound in layered and direction of winding is CW. If Right is Counter-Clockwise then both Primary and Secondary on the Right side is wound in layered and direction of winding is CCW. The ratio of winding is 1:4- 1 for Primary and 4 for Secondary, you could also try to 1:2.5 ratio. If you wanted to read it for you self look for the Tesla Transformer Construction on the Tesla Book.

That's all guys 8) I just followed Tesla on his detailed construction of his Tesla Transformer. Attached is the picture for better understanding.

Meow

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 28, 2014, 11:41:19 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 27, 2014, 07:24:47 PM
Can someone please tell me, just in one simple paragraph, what this circuit is actually supposed to _do_?

The idea ( assuming that I understand it correctly ) seems to be that if one shuttles energy back and forth through coupled windings enough times that extra energy will enter the system. It is not an idea I share. Presently, because the gate drive windings do not reference back to the respective MOSFET source terminals, I expect these circuits to switch poorly and probably overstress the gate-source dielectric. I foresee many dead MOSFETs. I have not thought of a solution that I think will be accepted as not altering the circuit in a major way.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 29, 2014, 08:17:20 PM

- Say we use a coil to pulse a toroid. The flux goes into the toroid and is picked up by a secondary coil.
- Now suppose we pick up the bemf off the secondary with another coil (wrapped around the secondary).
- Using a diode, we direct the bemf into another coil on the opposite side of the toroid so that its flux goes back to the toroid core.
- Now you've got two kicks hitting the toroid. These get picked up by the secondary and sent back, and this effect multiplies hugely because you are pulsing the toroid many times per second.
- That's a tremendous amount of kicks pulsing the toroid - in fact you will probably end up with standing waves! :o

- Now, let's put another pickup coil on the toroid to resonate with the secondary, its bemf pickup coil, and the coil re-pulsing the toroid.

The trick will be to keep things in balance. Teets emphasized this. Looking at the Don Smith Device, I interpret balance to mean balance between coils. This is crucial to maintaining resonance between the secondary coil, its secondary winding, the redirected bemf coil and the pickup coil. There must be balance.

I think this is the heart of it. There are other things to fine tune and add in such stepup coils, the kind of toroid material (i.e., ferrite, wire...), caps, the Tito Twister caps and the manner in which you want to initially pulse.

There is also the matter of the antenna, but that's minor compared to the central principle.

Bob

Edit: I edited things a little for clarity's sake.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 30, 2014, 02:04:02 PM

I should note that the above post roughly illustrates just one of what might be Tito's methods (I think he has a few) for energy amplification.

Tito also spoke of parallel resonance followed by series resonance. In my view, this is another of Tito's methods.
Parallel resonance will amplify current and series resonance will amplify voltage.
Thinking back to what's been said, we may have the following:

Pulsed litz coil: parallel resonance (current amplification)
discharging into...
Coils of high capacitance in series: series resonance (voltage amplification)
- these coils could be the Tito Twists I described above, series wound bifi pancake coils, or even caps.

All for now.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: magnetman12003 on July 30, 2014, 03:37:54 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM
Hi everyone 8)

Currently i am trying to amplify a small voltage into high voltage and its current from milliamps to amps now
Can somebody demonstrate amplify a 1.5 volts with its milliamps into high voltage and from milliamps to amps? ::)

Check out free energy transformer -- called MEG. If you can make one that works you will have what you are looking for. I am in the process of following this up myself.

Thank you. ;)

God bless
otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on July 31, 2014, 01:45:41 PM

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Flynn_Parallel_Path_principle_device (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Flynn_Parallel_Path_principle_device)

magnetic circuit(MEG)

fourth image,figure 6.,7.

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=3101918A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19820819&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

serie :

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=JP&NR=2003009558A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=20030110&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=JP&NR=2003009558A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=20030110&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 31, 2014, 07:32:12 PM

Thanks for the links OCWL,
All the best,
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 01, 2014, 07:42:08 AM

Quote from: MarkE on July 27, 2014, 03:55:42 PM
Dave, I think as the circuit is drawn you are at high risk of blowing up MOSFETs by excessive gate to source voltage stress. I need to think about how to fix that without making changes that you probably would not like.

Hey Mark I would appreciate any help you would like to give on the gates.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 01, 2014, 07:45:54 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 27, 2014, 07:24:47 PM
Can someone please tell me, just in one simple paragraph, what this circuit is actually supposed to _do_?

Comon TK cant you see it, its a pump.
Pumps pos on one side and neg on the other, its just a souped up DC to DC converter.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on August 01, 2014, 07:54:19 AM

Dave:

You need to make a timing diagram to put substance behind your statements about the circuit. You balk when I mention this.

If you are building it then you can use your scope to make the timing diagram, which is perfectly fine.

MileHigh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 01, 2014, 08:14:17 AM

Lets look at it in stages
First stage is just a buck converter it loads up the neg side of C2,
Stage 2 is a boost converter but it releases the neg side of C2 and we get a capacitive discharge through L2,
The bemf from L2 is pos and runs through D2 into C5 and the load.

Stage three is a boost converter that loads up the pos side of C4
Stage 4 is a boost converter it releases the pos side of C4 and we get a capacitive discharge through L4,
The bemf from L4 is neg and runs through D4 into C5 and the load.

Its just a pump
But incorporates a capacitive discharge on both sides.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 01, 2014, 10:41:29 AM

Running the gates with arduino or the like would be the way to go, stage one could be ran at twice or even triple the frequency of stage two this would increase the capacitive discharge through L2

The same for stages three and four.

Stages one and two are coupled to work alternately and the same for three and four, but stages one and two are not coupled to three and four and can work independently.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 01, 2014, 03:08:53 PM

Looks like PODMOD device ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 01, 2014, 04:19:04 PM

It is only a pump ? or more like a Ranque-Hilsch-tube ?

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 01, 2014, 07:57:58 PM

Quote from: MileHigh on August 01, 2014, 07:54:19 AM
Dave:

You need to make a timing diagram to put substance behind your statements about the circuit. You balk when I mention this.

If you are building it then you can use your scope to make the timing diagram, which is perfectly fine.

MileHigh

Before I go too far everyone needs to understand how it works.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on August 01, 2014, 08:26:54 PM

Repost :D

The energy converter from Tesla
The energy source of the electric car

Our worl's information highway, there's many informations. Using these informations real or disinformation content, it seems to be, the experimenting staff does not produce smashing.

In this article, I'll publish an electronic circuit, which could be understood, and can be built.
And for more I publish some literature, which helps to understand the working of the device and the scaling.

I explain shortly the basic working principles, which only requires the basic physical knowledge from the experimenter.

*****
The device includes two transformer. The first is the modulator transformer, and the second is the output transformer, which reduces the voltage for the load.

There is two high bandwith choke, for isolating DC. And more, there is two laminated iron or ferrite core coil for tuning the series resonance. And there's two, specially constructed plasma tube. On the bottom of the tube, 1cm deep mercury "pool" required. An iron/Tungsten electrode can be placed on the bottom of the tube. The tube is filled with He, Ne, and Ar mixture.
First the tube can be evacuated to 10-7 Hgmm. (For cleaning. And refilled with gas mixture -translator's notice)
The correct W/H ratio is 1:5 of the tube. On the top of the tube, there's a ring electrode (plate), which could be scaled experimentally.
This plate forms a coupling capacitor, and forms series resonance with Tr1, after the ignition of the plasma.
For the series coupling, special high voltage and impulse capacitor could be used. There are two variable resistor, which adjust the working point, to the middle of the plasma's negative resistance curve.

On the output, there's a rectifier and filter, which works corretly on the amplified modulation frequency.
This buffer feed the inverter.
**
The working principle is easily understood, by learning about the tunnel diodes. Reading articles about tunnel diodes using as a rectifier.

Every device can be used as amplifier, which has a negative resistance curve.

This device works in push-pull mode, and the plasma tubes are ignited by the secondary side.
First the core cannot be placed into the cores. The inductance of the cores is relatively low, does not say to the ingition.

After the ignition, placing the cores into the coils, the inductance increases, and tunes the circuit for series resonance. Large current flows through the plasma, in low voltage. The Fluorescent Tubes works in a similar way.
The ignited plasma the outer top electrode, produces a high speed rotating "tornado" which picks into the Mercury on the bottom of the tube. It evaporates mercury atoms from it. It increases the number of the electrons, and produces ionic rectifying.
The asimmetrical "one-sided" pulses charges the top electrode. Through the resistors, the voltage drops, and this curve asn a tunnel-diode is capable of amplifying the input 200W 5-50KHz signal, about 100-300 current amplifying factor (so the DC current part of the plasma.)

The reuired DC for the working produced by, the mercury rectifier, from the increased plasma current,
from the carged ring electrode capatitor,
So there's no extrernal DC source required.
On the plasma tube, 1-10A can flow through, by 20-25V. The coupling capacitor, with large current and voltage, in series resonance with the Tr2, in high Q, allows the energy flow to the load.
If the Q=10, in the rasonant circuit, and the 1A/25V on the plasma, produces 10A/250V on the transformer. If there's an effective value, 5KW/h can be produced by the device.
With correct scaling, the Q can be increased to 100. In this case, there are significant current and voltages.
The transformers, wires, capacitors, insulators could be scaled for these voltages and currents. The using lower frequencies, using bigger transformers, in higher frequencies we can use ferrite or iron powder cores. The energy density of the plasma increases by square by the frequency.

The mixing ratio of the used gases are 1:10, which allows the energy resonance between the gases. One electron could hit out another 10 electron from the another gas's electron shell.
An avalanche effect can be produced, which allows the presence of many electrons in the plasma.
The fine tuning of the generator, the system could be tuned for maximum resonance, if all correctly scaled. The plasma tubes are 100% modulated by the ignition transformer on the primary side.
The DC flow through the tube, adjusted to the centre of the negative resistance curve.

This power amplified by the plasma current, matched to the output load. 100-300x amplified power flows through the output load.
The construction of the plasma tube, electric circuit tehchnique, allows the parameters of the working.

recommended Articles:
Meinke-Gundlach: "Radio technic handbook"
RT1961 (Hungarian HAM almanac) "Tunneldiode as an amplifier"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 01, 2014, 09:53:03 PM

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-01-2014/Er1hP5.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-01-2014/QMae_X.gif

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 01, 2014, 11:33:50 PM

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-02-2014/N_WJ4q.gif

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on August 02, 2014, 12:03:36 AM

As we can see on almost implementation of this Charging Choke it is Isolated with a Secondary winding of a Transformer. The energy from the Battery or
any means source of current are not wasted every time the Circuit on the Capacitor is close/short circuit. The Tesla Charging Choke store the energy from the battery as magnetic flux, when the Capacitor is now open circuit the magnetic flux is discharge on the capacity, repetitive make and break the energy stored somewhat increasing.
Better winding configuration presented by Stan Meyer on how to utilize a Tesla Charging Circuit.
The second picture is taken from any Regenerative Charging High Frequency Circuit of Dr. Tesla perfectly implemented by Stan Meyer.
Focus only on the Winding Direction and Winding Configuration on this examples by SM.
This is the correct circuit in Utilizing the Magnetic Flux of the Charging Inductor, EV Gray called this on his system Magnetic Harness.
The Charging Choke should have a very large Self Induction- instead of the WFC put there Capacitor.

This is just some clarification that this Charging Choke of Dr. Tesla is really a very important component on all of his devices. Tesla used this
adjustable Inductor with sliding soft iron core to change Frequency Vibration of any on his Oscillator.

Just speculation. ;D ;D

Meow

Quote from: Dave45 on August 01, 2014, 09:53:03 PM
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-01-2014/Er1hP5.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-01-2014/QMae_X.gif

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on August 02, 2014, 02:37:24 AM

Tito's original post

Quotehere is what you need zenerdiode, coil as resistor, coil as caps, coil as source of input and galvanize wire, then everything is coil for collector and coil for kicker, speaker wire, coax.

see how coil is amazing?

zenerdiode=D q-ing diode, coil as resistor= Inductor with very high self inductance much preferred with sliding soft iron core.
coil as caps= Bifilar Coils wound in layers. Coil for collector =Output coils.

The picture below is technique which was showed by Stan Meyer the correct winding configuration and orientation. I think you guys is familiar with the circuit below because it is already posted here with no exact details.
You should put in mind that you will refer to the pictures above post which is courtesy from Stan Meyer the Coupled Tesla Amplifying Circuit, There are two ways to incorporate these coils in 1 Quad Soft Core;First is Unipolar Magnetic Field, Second is Bipolar Magnetic Field(Alternating Current)- just look for the combination for yourself from the pictures above. Meooooooooow! 8)

Meow 8) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 02, 2014, 07:01:05 AM

Not sure if it can be scaled or not but if it could you can add stages, of course the power handling capability's of the components would be a factor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 02, 2014, 07:16:12 AM

Folks the buck boost tech has been around for a long time this is proven tech, I just started adding them together in stages.
Fine wire for the boost and heavy wire for the buck of course it will change as stages are added heavier wire in both but proportional.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 02, 2014, 08:09:31 AM

Folks this is an overcomplicated boost converter that puts out 320 volts, instead of taking the power out you run it into a cap and add another stage.
Each stage increases power.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 02, 2014, 08:37:40 AM

Lets say I wanted to build a buck converter, I could hook it to a 12 volt battery and hit it with 12 volts or I could hook it to this circuit and hit it with 320 volts.
Do you see it now.
A boost converter increases voltage a buck converter increases amperage.
You have to be careful how its laid out because you can get inverted voltage and inverted amperage.
There's one you can argue about :) Im sure I'll catch it over that one.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on August 03, 2014, 09:00:05 PM

Resonant charging circuits are quite common, some values need to be kept within certain limits.
The linked page shows the theory of the resonant charging circuit and all the formula needed to design one properly.

DC resonant charging circuit.
http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/dcreschg.html

The de-Q-ing diode is good but blocks all return current to the supply during low load situations and can increase the input power
by forcing power to stay in the charging circuit capacitor.

It's a very simple effect of a series inductor and a parallel capacitor which is used all the time and has no hint of OU what so ever,
the energy all comes from the supply. If I wanted to increase the applied voltage to part of a circuit with a fixed supply voltage
one option is to employ a resonant charging circuit. AC resonant charging circuits exist as well.

As far as resonance goes here is a 160 times magnification of power, there is 361 volts RMS in the tank with 3.9 Amperes of
current at a Phase angle of 42 degrees = 0.74 power factor. Input to the circuit is 14 volts at 450 mA = 6.3 Watts. The current
is sensed by scoping the voltage across a 0.1 Ohm resistor, 0.39 volts divided by 0.1 Ohms = 3.9 Amperes (blue trace)
Voltage is yellow trace of course.

361 volts x 3.9 = 1407 VA Apparent x 0.74 = 1041 Watts real power and 366 VAR.

So as far as the 1041 Watts goes if we divide 1041 Watts by 6.3 Watts we get a 165 times magnification of power,
the screen shot shows it but is it really there ? If a load is applied the 1041 Watts disappears as quick as it appears.
I can tap the tank but the output is limited to the input minus losses as is logical.

..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 04, 2014, 08:48:28 AM

There are a few things that make this setup different,
For one both polarity's are non inverted, take a look around find a topology laid out like this.
Two the coils are setup open ended bifilar which allows the coils to ionize on the pulse and draw on the collapse.
The two polarity's are separated which doesnt allow recombination of ions.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 04, 2014, 08:50:05 PM

Joule thief

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 04, 2014, 09:14:09 PM

:) :) :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 05, 2014, 06:59:44 AM

Will it runaway or go into resonance

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 05, 2014, 07:35:11 AM

recycle

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 11, 2014, 11:09:08 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajxm25zoyAY

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on August 12, 2014, 07:20:09 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 11, 2014, 11:09:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajxm25zoyAY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajxm25zoyAY)

There's your antenna!
Here's a couple more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk6bamEcW_k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk6bamEcW_k)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1l3Fzp1rLw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1l3Fzp1rLw)
B
Edit: One more :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHFgJ4pyDNk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHFgJ4pyDNk)

And one more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtRWo7a9ky0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtRWo7a9ky0)
Here, it looks like he's feeding the electrical impulses from the motor (acting as generator?) and through the coil, back into the motor with the diode. Notice the cap in parallel with the motor's terminals.
It looks to me like he's harnessing the motor's properties as generator and feeding it back into the motor. It seems the law of conservation of energy would preclude this from happening. However, perhaps the motor's magnet is amplifying things, and perhaps the spike sent back to the motor coils is actually sending the windings into resonance. I gotta try this one.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on August 13, 2014, 08:27:54 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 11, 2014, 11:09:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajxm25zoyAY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajxm25zoyAY)

I thought you were done posting. Back so soon. And with a fake video to boot. I thought someone as smart as you would have figured it out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 13, 2014, 11:11:21 PM

Quote from: MrMag on August 13, 2014, 08:27:54 PM

I thought you were done posting. Back so soon. And with a fake video to boot. I thought someone as smart as you would have figured it out.

NGEK! :o

No!. This is my thread i said, this is my notebook, i will write here whenever i want! >:(

You make your own note book don't bother me here. mind your own business. >:(

i think it is you who don't figuring it out. ;D

OK! IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW IT. THERE IS A TRANSFORMER AT THE BOTTOM!. ;D BWA HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA[/font][/size] ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 13, 2014, 11:22:06 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on August 12, 2014, 07:20:09 AM
There's your antenna!
Here's a couple more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk6bamEcW_k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk6bamEcW_k)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1l3Fzp1rLw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1l3Fzp1rLw)
B
Edit: One more :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHFgJ4pyDNk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHFgJ4pyDNk)

And one more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtRWo7a9ky0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtRWo7a9ky0)
Here, it looks like he's feeding the electrical impulses from the motor (acting as generator?) and through the coil, back into the motor with the diode. Notice the cap in parallel with the motor's terminals.
It looks to me like he's harnessing the motor's properties as generator and feeding it back into the motor. It seems the law of conservation of energy would preclude this from happening. However, perhaps the motor's magnet is amplifying things, and perhaps the spike sent back to the motor coils is actually sending the windings into resonance. I gotta try this one.

THOSE ARE FAKE BUDDY DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THEM. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 18, 2014, 07:04:19 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY9Q8L3quIM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDhhXcPCvc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOiQFMhoqMM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on August 18, 2014, 08:21:28 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 18, 2014, 07:04:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY9Q8L3quIM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY9Q8L3quIM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDhhXcPCvc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDhhXcPCvc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOiQFMhoqMM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOiQFMhoqMM)

Post like this make me lose my faith in humanity.
It's like a 14 year old adolescent playing tricks on adults.
I'm sure Tito is over 14.
Very immature Tito.
Sorry.
Grow up.
My 14 year old grew up and now he apologizes for the stuff he did when he was growing up.
Grow up Tito.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on August 18, 2014, 09:02:11 PM

As intended !

I stopped paying attention to this scammer loooong long ago...and I'm a newby in the field.

But...a real good judge of horse flesh.

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 18, 2014, 09:35:35 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on August 18, 2014, 08:21:28 PM

Post like this make me lose my faith in humanity.
It's like a 14 year old adolescent playing tricks on adults.
I'm sure Tito is over 14.
Very immature Tito.
Sorry.
Grow up.
My 14 year old grew up and now he apologizes for the stuff he did when he was growing up.
Grow up Tito.

oh buddy :D well i'm just fascinated always from simple things like this, and that is i believe a sense of humility.
and do you know that because of that attitude of yours overlook lots of important and best technology in the past.
:)
Sometimes you need to make a review of different kindergarten tech to really grasp of things that are hidden ;) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on August 18, 2014, 09:44:12 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 18, 2014, 07:04:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY9Q8L3quIM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY9Q8L3quIM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDhhXcPCvc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDhhXcPCvc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOiQFMhoqMM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOiQFMhoqMM)

OK Tito - then please explain what these three videos have to do with energy amplification. In these videos they are simply burning fossil fuels.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 18, 2014, 09:54:14 PM

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on August 18, 2014, 09:02:11 PM
As intended !

I stopped paying attention to this scammer loooong long ago...and I'm a newby in the field.

But...a real good judge of horse flesh.

Regards...

You know what?, No one forced you to listen to me, and before you judge you have to really really know the truth before making a decision to it or throw a bad word decision, cause many times you are wrong in that kind of way.
well i cannot blame you cause you are newby in the rantz ;D

A person can be judge actually the way his attitude is actually ;) got it scammer? ;D

bhuiiiiiiiiihihihihihiiiiiiii ;D yah tigidig tigidig yah ;D ohohhohohohoh. ;D

well anyway i thank you from the bottom of my fart from making me patience. ;D :-*

:-* :-\ ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 18, 2014, 10:01:05 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on August 18, 2014, 09:44:12 PM

OK Tito - then please explain what these three videos have to do with energy amplification. In these videos they are simply burning fossil fuels.

like what i always said, i'm putting anything here for my review of everything. 8)

Well the relation is in the efficiency of the light it produce and can rely on its output it gives especially when we are in the forest though its not free energy, the light is good :D

nothing more :D

by the way i'm 41 going 42 your almost bingo. ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on August 18, 2014, 10:03:29 PM

OK I understand. Thanks.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 18, 2014, 10:12:42 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on August 18, 2014, 10:03:29 PM
OK I understand. Thanks.

good you understand it, cause manny scammers don't, they think like a horse ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 19, 2014, 08:16:56 AM

Mike at EF built a circuit to charge battery's
Made a couple of mods ;)
Energetic forum isnt responding this morning.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 19, 2014, 11:46:25 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAvsUMslius
http://www.fluxmopeds.com/#specifications

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 19, 2014, 09:38:56 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 19, 2014, 08:16:56 AM
Mike at EF built a circuit to charge battery's
Made a couple of mods ;)
Energetic forum isnt responding this morning.

They are not responding because they are riding on a horse. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 22, 2014, 07:44:38 AM

If the switches work together the coil would suck from the ambient instead of the power supply.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on August 22, 2014, 07:58:45 AM

Dave, you need to do something about the input side to limit the negative going spike to a voltage that the input transistor can tolerate.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 22, 2014, 10:04:10 AM

Yea the circuit is just a generic overview the details need worked out.
I will take it to a whole new level soon ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on August 22, 2014, 10:23:22 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 22, 2014, 10:04:10 AM
Yea the circuit is just a generic overview the details need worked out.
I will take it to a whole new level soon ;)

I don't think that the resistor helps. If I understand your intent you want the input side to open so that when it swings negative the coupled winding on top will draw energy from the environment. Is that right? Then you need something that limits the voltage excursion that doesn't waste all the energy taken from the battery to magnetize the inductor when the left hand switch is closed.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 22, 2014, 11:49:28 AM

Drawing from the ambient and not the power supply.

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-22-2014/YyG6O9.gif

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on August 22, 2014, 12:12:29 PM

Dave, I figured that was the idea. However, again: When the left switch opens, the left hand side of the inductor swings negatively drawing current from parasitic capacitance which quickly develops a rapidly increasing negative voltage. How do you plan to keep the lower winding from swing so low that it destroys the switching transistor?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 22, 2014, 07:21:42 PM

Mark
Is this what you meant
I need to do some testing but I dont think the extra diode is really needed if the coil is wound right, ie parallel windings.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on August 22, 2014, 07:47:19 PM

Semi conductors are the ones that stopping you from realizing such great idea. I would suggest you only work first with Relays then Vacuum Tube Triode, for semi conductor the only good piece I can see is the JFET.. Semi Conductors cant give you enough power to the device you wanted to build, it will only restrict your design. This is the reason I give up on using Semi Conductors as switching device.

Now review the history of Free Energy Devices do they used semi conductors on their time?

Tesla

QuoteWell, in some of these bulbs I have shown, for instance,
that a heated conductor emits a stream of ions, or, as I said
at that time, charged particles, and a few of these bulbs I
have been using exactly in the same manner as the audion is
used today.

Meow

Quote from: Dave45 on August 22, 2014, 07:21:42 PM
Mark
Is this what you meant
I need to do some testing but I dont think the extra diode is really needed if the coil is wound right, ie parallel windings.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 22, 2014, 11:28:56 PM

doping = bearden

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on August 23, 2014, 05:44:29 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 22, 2014, 07:21:42 PM
Mark
Is this what you meant
I need to do some testing but I dont think the extra diode is really needed if the coil is wound right, ie parallel windings.

Dave something like that. You have freedom to choose what voltage drop you wish to have where the diode is up to the voltage limits of the switching device. The tradeoffs are: More voltage ostensibly pulls more charge from the surroundings, but dissipates magnetizing energy in the coil faster.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on August 23, 2014, 05:46:34 AM

Quote from: stupify12 on August 22, 2014, 07:47:19 PM
Semi conductors are the ones that stopping you from realizing such great idea. I would suggest you only work first with Relays then Vacuum Tube Triode, for semi conductor the only good piece I can see is the JFET.. Semi Conductors cant give you enough power to the device you wanted to build, it will only restrict your design. This is the reason I give up on using Semi Conductors as switching device.

Now review the history of Free Energy Devices do they used semi conductors on their time?

Tesla

Meow

If one does not restrict the voltage somehow then one invites arcing across there contacts as those contacts open. That wears the contacts and it dissipates energy as heat.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 23, 2014, 06:27:47 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 18, 2014, 10:01:05 PM

like what i always said, i'm putting anything here for my review of everything. 8)

nothing more :D

by the way i'm 41 going 42 your almost bingo. ;D

;D

classical view : in three years you will become a senior ,coming from the juvenil lifetime
keep your youth well ??? ::) ;D

Albern Onestein,many IQ-stones heavy : Am I silly or they ?

http://gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Communications-Mechanics%20/%20Electrodynamics/Download/1180 (http://gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Communications-Mechanics%20/%20Electrodynamics/Download/1180) gives probably answer :P

But it has been written in the textbooks on electrical engineering and electrodynamics for more
than 100 years that average pulse power is calculated according to the formula ( 8) , which has
only relative pulse duration of current pulses SI only, and nobody has tried to check a
correspondence of the physical content of this formula to SI system.

Do neither trust the POPE nore the "peers/doctor fathers" cause they are also only seller
:) ;) :)

Heat as Energy
the "fathers/masters" of thermodynamics :
Nicholas Sadi Carnot and Jean Fourier,physicians

the "father/master" of "the law of energy conservation" :
James P. Joule ,beerbrewer
and his translation servant Heinrich von Helmholtz,university docent

The real question,basics, about Tesla and other inventors of the 19./20. century is:
which materials did he/they used ?
Fisica
and which electro-dynamic formulas,classical written
Matematica
without translation/correspondence faults !

and nobody has tried to check a correspondence of the physical content of this formula to SI system.

Hol(l)y Father/POPE : Keppler/Gallilei 500 years for "desculpa/pardon-moi"

So -500 years related- only 100 years lost is a win ??? :o ::) ;)

What means Mother Earth ? Nobody is prefect :-[ aehh,syntax error - desculpa-me,perfect ;D
Pardon,ma don-na mia :-* (parva ;D )

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 23, 2014, 06:50:51 AM

Anything you can do on the pos rail can be done on the neg rail.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on August 23, 2014, 06:59:12 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 23, 2014, 06:50:51 AM
Anything you can do on the pos rail can be done on the neg rail.

That's very true. The choice is usually driven by what is convenient and cheap. Low side switches are generally cheaper and easier to manage than high side switches. There are many good commercial drivers for both that handle up to 100VDC bus voltages without difficulty. When you settle on what voltages you want to see on either side of your coils and what kinds of current you want to carry, then it should be pretty easy to find off the shelf parts that will do the job. For this sort of arrangement, my first recommendation would be to go look at buck-boost regulators and controllers. Linear Technology in particular ahs some good parts, even if a single one costs $8.00.

Technically both of your figures are variations on boost converters, because they switch the output side of the coil. If you were to control the input and output switches independently, then each would be a buck-boost.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 23, 2014, 08:30:08 AM

QuoteTechnically both of your figures are variations on boost converters,

Your right the difference is one boost's the neg and the other boost's the pos
Both are noninverted.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 23, 2014, 09:09:10 AM

The circuits can be put together as I did here, then we get a capacitive discharge on both rails.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 23, 2014, 11:04:56 AM

Just when I think I have taken the circuit as far as it will go another possibility emerges.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on August 23, 2014, 12:41:35 PM

I have similar concerns about the MOSFET driving circuits on this as an earlier design that also floated the MOSFET gate drives. The drive circuit for each MOSFET needs to develop voltage to the gate referenced to the respective source terminal. If you need to add more windings to your coupled chokes to do that, that is a lot better than having your MOSFETs sit there without switching, or worse burning up.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 24, 2014, 12:34:49 AM

Hey Dave

Have you tried these inductors with the second winding open ended vs not connecting the open ended winding to the main winding? Just wondering. ;D seems interesting. Never thought of it before.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 24, 2014, 07:23:48 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on August 24, 2014, 12:34:49 AM
Hey Dave

Have you tried these inductors with the second winding open ended vs not connecting the open ended winding to the main winding? Just wondering. ;D seems interesting. Never thought of it before.

Mags

I knew you were still around :)
No, the idea just came a couple of days ago.
Still waiting on parts got my cores and bobbins waiting on transistors, should have been here yesterday.

I put idea's up for consideration and discussion, give my take on how it works.
Hopefully we will find the answer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on August 24, 2014, 09:21:31 AM

Dave I suggest that you change your circuit to something like this. You can always try out the circuit that you have diagrammed first.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 24, 2014, 10:27:01 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 24, 2014, 07:23:48 AM
I knew you were still around :)
No, the idea just came a couple of days ago.
Still waiting on parts got my cores and bobbins waiting on transistors, should have been here yesterday.

I put idea's up for consideration and discussion, give my take on how it works.
Hopefully we will find the answer.

Yep, always around. Just had to put more time in other things for a bit.

Well, before you put any of these larger circuits together, make your windings on the core and try some basic stuff to see what effects there may be with the open ended winding vs not connecting it at all. My first thoughts would be that it may be freq dependent, being bifi? More turns, lower freq.

I have a few bifi coils I can try some things. Cant today. Simple enough to try though. Compare operating a single winding alone, vs one end of the second winding to one end of first winding, vs connecting it to the other end of the first winding.

I have some belief that there should be an effect having the open ended winding connected one ended to the primary winding, connected to one end or the other. My lil TC coil, having 1 turn around the top of the open ended secondary lights a light bulb. If the open ended sec of my lil TC can do that, then there should be some definite differences in your primary winding operation when adding the open ended winding into the equation. ;)

Gota go to work.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 24, 2014, 11:01:37 AM

Yep plan on building a joule thief type circuit using two npn transistors and see if the isolated bifi coil will draw energy.
May go dead in the water, who knows, just an idea.
The switching needs to be precise and work together.
A micro controller may be the way to go, I was trying not to go there and KIS

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 24, 2014, 11:06:37 AM

Mark thanks for the suggestions am studying them now.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 24, 2014, 11:17:23 AM

Radioshack has arduino and paralax stuff. And there is tons of info out there to get you started pretty quick.

A good site also is.... https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on August 24, 2014, 11:21:04 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 24, 2014, 11:06:37 AM
Mark thanks for the suggestions am studying them now.

Dave, you are welcome. The other thing that I see is that there is nothing protecting the A'- node or B'+ node. The drawing below is one way of dealing with that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on August 24, 2014, 03:16:12 PM

Magluvin, and other ou researchers who are/were wavering:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEtiNum9MpM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEtiNum9MpM)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on August 24, 2014, 11:23:57 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on August 24, 2014, 03:16:12 PM
Magluvin, and other ou researchers who are/were wavering:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEtiNum9MpM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEtiNum9MpM)

I think that is a terrible example. Mr. Ellis is upset because he does not think that the entertainment program "Myth Busters" was fair to John Bedini's false over unity claims. Did the entertainment program entertain? Yes it did. Did it state the real known physics? Yes, it did. Did it discuss the real reasons that Bedini's false claims are nonsense? Yes it did.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 25, 2014, 07:00:42 AM

John Bedini showed us the way, he didnt give it all away but put us on the path.
His system is a pos boost converter, Id bet with careful consideration it could be made to boost the neg as well.
These are all bemf collection systems, will it go ou, can a coil draw from the ambient :-\

Maybe we need to give it a source besides the battery to draw from,,,,,,,,,,like an ion cloud

I think its their attitude in the vid and their crappy setup that makes them look like idiots. They dont even try to understand whats happening they give their "we know more than you and you are an idiot attitude" and never really consider the possibility.

Separate the pos from the neg, collect both.

I believe it can be done and will not be discouraged.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on August 25, 2014, 08:54:44 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 25, 2014, 07:00:42 AM
John Bedini showed us the way, he didnt give it all away but put us on the path.
His system is a pos boost converter, Id bet with careful consideration it could be made to boost the neg as well.
These are all bemf collection systems, will it go ou, can a coil draw from the ambient :-\

Maybe we need to give it a source besides the battery to draw from,,,,,,,,,,like an ion cloud

I think its their attitude in the vid and their crappy setup that makes them look like idiots. They dont even try to understand whats happening they give their "we know more than you and you are an idiot attitude" and never really consider the possibility.

Separate the pos from the neg, collect both.

I believe it can be done and will not be discouraged.

That Mythbusters episode is almost ten years old. I would have thought that if John Bedini could refute it, that he would have. John Bedini has been making wild claims since at least around 1982 when he published materials that claimed to show an electric German motor scooter that was powered by ambient electricity that was to be available to the public in 1983. 32 years later, he still makes wild claims and no one has shown any machine that John Bedini has claimed as over unity running on its own without running down.

Keep experimenting. Keep learning.

I think I need to change where the A'- and B'+ diodes return to the configuration below. The earlier connections would not close a current path for the inductors. You will want to be careful with the layout. Stray inductance in any of the current loops shown will develop unwanted voltages when the MOSFETs switch.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 25, 2014, 10:08:53 AM

We are both seeing the problem, you are rerouting the bemf into the perspective side of the load cap with your diodes.

Im wondering if there is a way to stop the cap from hitting the back side of the coil.
Here are my concerns, I used 300 volts as an example which is not unrealistic for a boost converter.
When the 300 volts hits the cap the cap will pull from the battery to equalize the pressure then when the switches in the next stage close that pressure will hit the back side of the coil,
Is there a way to stop this from happening is what Im trying to see.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 25, 2014, 11:08:24 AM

:-\ for every problem there is a solution, we just have to find it.
This may or may not be it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on August 25, 2014, 11:48:16 AM

For the coil currents to get back to where they started greater than zero each cycle the V*T product across the coils during the off time has to match the V*T of the coils during the on time, CCM. If the V*T during the off time exceeds that of the ON time then the coils stop conducting by the end of the off time: DCM.

The capacitors accept charge from the coils during the MOSFET off times. The amount of energy that can go into a capacitor in any half cycle is determined by a second order differential equation. But in basic terms the capacitors each have to charge up enough so that the charge added each cycle matches the charge drained out. Usually the safest thing to do if you are just experimenting is go bigger than needed on capacitor value. A better solution is to calculate what you need. If you let me know more or less the parameters that you know then I can suggest some values.

I would not go with the arrangement that you propose above as it uses a flying capacitor. What you might do is walk before you run and build-up just the top half or bottom half of your circuit at first jsut to keep it manageable. See what kind of results you get from that, what you need to fix and get yourself on a solid footing before hooking up the second half.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on August 25, 2014, 11:53:26 AM

@Dave45

What about this way to cut the cap off while the inductor is being charged?

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 25, 2014, 02:03:54 PM

I see what your saying, in my last diagram the cap would probably never fully deplete.
Your diodes may be the only way.
Will ponder the situation awhile.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on August 29, 2014, 05:55:50 PM

Hey everybody
Here's something interesting posted by our friend Mags:

QuoteTito once told me in pm that, yes, he uses a zener as a spark gap. So possibly putting it all together here, we would need a rectifier diode in series with a reverse biased zener(probably high voltage), in which the rectifier diode forces the one way street and the zener stops conduction from the cap at a particular voltage level. One more item would be needed. A timed/voltage controlled switch in series with the diode and zener. The trigger level to turn on the transistor would be what ever voltage that is higher than the zener voltage that you desire. This would effectively produce a disrupted discharge. Say the trigger turns on the transistor at say 300v, and the zener cuts it off at 250v. Just an example. The transistor should stay on after trigger voltage is met, possibly also triggered off when the zener cuts out. Would have to be worked out.

Source: http://www.overunity.com/13460/teslas-coil-for-electro-magnets/msg416153/#msg416153
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on August 29, 2014, 08:39:21 PM

Zeners behave very differently than a spark gap. A spark gap has a strike voltage and then once the arc is struck a holding current at a much lower voltage. A zener breaks down at the zener voltage but the voltage does not drop once conduction starts.

SIDAC type transient absorbers behave much more like a spark gap than zener diodes. They hold off up to their breakdown voltage and then drop to a low resistance state until the current falls below the holding value.

In all three cases, energy is dissipated that will have to be made up somewhere else.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on August 29, 2014, 08:46:22 PM

My understanding is that Tito used a zener to prevent runaway. He doesn't use transistors but a series of Tesla switches.
When OU kicks in his voltages get so high so very fast that they become dangerous.
He prevents this by using a zener. I would use an NE2 myself if I got to that happy state.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 29, 2014, 09:57:29 PM

Quote from: MarkE on August 29, 2014, 08:39:21 PM
Zeners behave very differently than a spark gap. A spark gap has a strike voltage and then once the arc is struck a holding current at a much lower voltage. A zener breaks down at the zener voltage but the voltage does not drop once conduction starts.

SIDAC type transient absorbers behave much more like a spark gap than zener diodes. They hold off up to their breakdown voltage and then drop to a low resistance state until the current falls below the holding value.

In all three cases, energy is dissipated that will have to be made up somewhere else.

The idea is to emulate a magnetically quenched spark, where the magnets blow out the spark quicker than normal spark discharge. The zener is not 'the' spark gap. It is the quencher.

Sidac is a neat device. Have quite a few actually. So instead of the switch, diode and zener, we could use a sidac, diode and zener(quencher) to emulate a mag quenched spark gap. The sidac alone will deliver almost all the discharge caps charge due to it wont shut off till a min current level is reached, thus the zener to cut off the discharge before the cap is emptied.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Farmhand on August 30, 2014, 03:52:34 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on August 29, 2014, 09:57:29 PM
The idea is to emulate a magnetically quenched spark, where the magnets blow out the spark quicker than normal spark discharge. The zener is not 'the' spark gap. It is the quencher.

Sidac is a neat device. Have quite a few actually. So instead of the switch, diode and zener, we could use a sidac, diode and zener(quencher) to emulate a mag quenched spark gap. The sidac alone will deliver almost all the discharge caps charge due to it wont shut off till a min current level is reached, thus the zener to cut off the discharge before the cap is emptied.

Mags

Hi Mag's, Problem with sidac's and even GDT's is that the breakdown voltage can't be easily adjusted like a spark gaps "gap" can
be. Spark gaps can spark in reverse as well if conditions allow it, it's happened to me.

In my opinion unless using over 600 volts input then back to back mosfets or IGBT's is the way to go, if the switch closes very
quickly and then opens very quickly the optimum result is achieved, Tesla designed a lot of "mercury breaks/circuit controllers",
those would have behaved like a non sparking low resistance on/off switch much like a mosfet. If feeding a tanked primary or
a primary with a "reflecting" capacitance then the coil discharge on switch off charges the resonance capacitor anyway and no
HV spike occurs. Armstrong oscillators and other DC circuit controllers can use a capacitor across the switch so that when the
switch opens fast rather than creating a huge voltage with no load (except if it breaks down the switch), instead the coil
discharges into the capacitor then the capacitor discharges back through the coil towards the supply or the discharge capacitor
then basically the coil has a capacitor in series with it at both ends.

Like this primary circuit below, the mosfet switches on to charge the coil, then when it switches off the coil discharges into
capacitor "C3" then "C3" discharges back through the primary coil to capacitor "C1" and at the right moment the switch opens
again for the correct period and the cycle repeats. That induces a perfect sine wave in the secondary resonant tanks. No need
for any primary coil spike suppression or quenching, the current is started and stopped suddenly which is what is needed to
discharge the coil well. It's how you utilize the coils discharge that makes the difference, if there is no load for it then the energy
will always look for an out to equalize the potentials. From 12 volts input I get about 40 volt peak voltage at the drain in the form
of nice neat half sine looking lumps at the driven frequency. When the mosfet turns off the current through the switch stops
just as quickly. And the mosfet can be switched under intelligent control, spark gap is "dumb" for want of a better word.

At immense levels of voltage and current then the options are truly limited.

As Tesla said to the Council in court something like, " I was known for producing those effects for which I was called a freak using
the damped waves". For his magnifying transmitter and such he was using "un-damped waves" or continuous waves. In other
words sine waves of a constant amplitude or very nearly so.

He stated that the causing of the very high potentials using damped waves was good for freaking people out, but for useful
power transmissions and signal transmissions then a continuous or un-damped wave is best, even required.

The magnifying Transmitter is a device of resonance and sine waves, it should not produce large voltage spikes and damped waves.

..

Much higher resonant rise can be achieved using un damped and driving the coil/transformer with pulses at twice every cycle of the
fundamental frequency of the L and C in the oscillating circuit. If excited at a harmonic frequency damped waves are produced
and resonant rise is small and only in the oscillations if damping or loading is very small. A system excited at twice every cycle can
output more and maintain a resonant rise over a higher load than a system excited at every half cycle like my DC diver, and a
system excited at a lower harmonic has trouble maintaining a resonant rise even for one oscillation of non excitement if damping
is not very low or the setup is loaded.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 30, 2014, 02:21:24 PM

Are we ever going to understand and find ou using conventional circuits.

Maybe we need to find a way to pull energy from the core, conventional circuits just dont seem to cut it.

Some idea's Iv been thinking about.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on August 30, 2014, 08:28:48 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on August 30, 2014, 02:21:24 PM
Are we ever going to understand and find ou using conventional circuits.

Maybe we need to find a way to pull energy from the core, conventional circuits just dont seem to cut it.

Some idea's Iv been thinking about.

If it's got series resistors in it then there is a a good chance that it throws a large percentage of its power away. Lose one of the diodes because all you need is one. With or without the redundant diode what you end up with is a two transistor forward or flyback converter. They are very conventional and very well studied.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 30, 2014, 08:53:14 PM

I have to study it for myself to understand just an old country boy yaknow ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 30, 2014, 09:50:32 PM

Pos-Neg boost converter
If the resistors are getting hot then the switching speed is too slow, the resistors should never get hot.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on August 30, 2014, 10:54:09 PM

Have you thought of mixing in an antenna and ground Dave ?

In possibly a Stubblefieldesque arrangement.

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 31, 2014, 07:31:59 AM

Hey Cap
It would definitely be worth a shot.

The resistor serves two purposes, allows only one polarity to hit the coil and resist's the draw created when the magnetic field collapses.
Cleaned it up a bit.
An antenna and ground is not mobile, how about an ion generator.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 31, 2014, 08:28:11 AM

The only way I can see to make a conventional circuit go ou, give it something to draw from besides the power supply.
Ion clouds

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on August 31, 2014, 08:45:06 AM

Now we are mobile and not broadcasting our location ;D I hope

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 02, 2014, 07:15:59 AM

QuoteIf the material being neutralized is charged positive, it will immediately absorb negative ions from the static neutralizer and repel the positive ions. When the material becomes neutralized, there is no longer electrostatic attraction and the material will cease to absorb ions. Conversely, if the material being neutralized is charged negative, it will absorb the positive ions being generated by the neutralizer and repel the negative ions. Again, once neutralization is accomplished, the material will no longer attract ions. See figure below.

http://www.electrostatics.com/page2.html
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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 05, 2014, 01:48:25 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhqiHFhdujE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on September 05, 2014, 03:13:54 AM

It's a fun demonstration. But how does it relate to this thread?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 08, 2014, 06:10:44 PM

DC spark gap

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on September 08, 2014, 08:25:26 PM

Dave by placing blocking diodes in series with the coils that drive you gates, you will be able to turn the various MOSFETs on, but not off. They will turn off at their own leisure as the gate voltage slowly falls due to leakage currents. That means that they will pass slowly through their linear regions where they will dissipate a lot of power.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 10, 2014, 02:42:48 AM

Quote from: MarkE on September 05, 2014, 03:13:54 AM
It's a fun demonstration. But how does it relate to this thread?

nothing just thinking about heatsink ;D ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 14, 2014, 08:42:19 AM

Anyone have any info on this
http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/index/0-30

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on September 15, 2014, 12:50:02 PM

FYI folks on another thread:

Quote from: giantkiller on September 14, 2014, 05:11:40 PM
Ok, everybody wake up:
I was going to produce a document to publish and be my own prairie dog. Now wouldn't that be kinda stupidly suicidal?

SM never mentioned antenna.

Here's my bomb:
Study the parameters of helical antenna design and you get to peer behind the TPU curtain. Pulse cannon.
And then there is this doco:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regenerative_circuit#Advantages_and_applications (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regenerative_circuit#Advantages_and_applications)
And here is the rotating field:
http://www.eh-antenna.com/EH_HZ.pdf (http://www.eh-antenna.com/EH_HZ.pdf)
And here is a partial TPU schematic:
Page 315 diagram 15-11. PDF page 328
http://www.apparentlyapparel.com/uploads/5/3/5/6/5356442/_____practical_antenna_handbook_fourth_edition_carr.pdf (http://www.apparentlyapparel.com/uploads/5/3/5/6/5356442/_____practical_antenna_handbook_fourth_edition_carr.pdf)

All is well that ends well. Unfortunately the human race doesn't have enough time on this planet to utilize this forbidden technology.

Working EH Antenna.com link supplied by Gyulasun:

QuoteThe archive.org can be our friend ;)

http://web.archive.org/web/20130823051939/http://eh-antenna.com/EH_HZ.pdf

Gyula

Anyway, lots of things GK generously shared link up with what Tito's been saying.
You the man GK!
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on September 15, 2014, 02:57:36 PM

Hi guys,

Is this topic dying?
Please don't let it...
Tito, are you there?

Zd

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 15, 2014, 09:30:44 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJSDYYaF3LA

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: teslaedison on September 15, 2014, 10:01:52 PM

This must be a Direct Current or DC then which means you need at least a DC coil to up the voltages first with the amount of windings to the inside of the coil and not sure about how to get the amps up yet but A coil would help you out for sure on the uping the voltages at least. I dont think they or company makes ones that up the voltages the way you want it to come out unless you pay money to have them make it to your specs though is possible also !
Tom

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on September 15, 2014, 11:13:06 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on September 15, 2014, 09:30:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJSDYYaF3LA

It is a nice demonstration of remnant magnetization. The nicely polished iron blocks make a small reluctance gap. That holds B up, and force goes as B². Once the blocks are separated, the remnant magnetization drops, so when they are put back together the force is much lower. It is textbook stuff.

I have no idea why the person doing the demonstration says "no one" knows why the blocks are hard to pull apart once.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: teslaedison on September 15, 2014, 11:25:48 PM

the metals electrons are changed inside with the copper wire because you have eddy current maybe too there so your forcing all the electrons to attract the other electrons in the other metal bar instantly is why it is hard to separate them !!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on September 16, 2014, 07:02:54 PM

QuoteRe: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

« Reply #6354 on: September 15, 2014, 06:50:02 PM »
FYI folks on another thread:

Quote from: giantkiller on September 14, 2014, 11:11:40 PM

Ok, everybody wake up:
I was going to produce a document to publish and be my own prairie dog. Now wouldn't that be kinda stupidly suicidal?

SM never mentioned antenna.

Here's my bomb:
Study the parameters of helical antenna design and you get to peer behind the TPU curtain. Pulse cannon.
And then there is this doco:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regenerative_circuit#Advantages_and_applications
And here is the rotating field:
http://www.eh-antenna.com/EH_HZ.pdf
And here is a partial TPU schematic:
Page 315 diagram 15-11. PDF page 328
http://www.apparentlyapparel.com/uploads/5/3/5/6/5356442/_____practical_antenna_handbook_fourth_edition_carr.pdf

All is well that ends well. Unfortunately the human race doesn't have enough time on this planet to utilize this forbidden technology.

Working EH Antenna.com link supplied by Gyulasun:

The archive.org can be our friend ;)
http://web.archive.org/web/20130823051939/http://eh-antenna.com/EH_HZ.pdf

Gyula

If we look at these antenna design manuals where GK directs us, there is a significant amount of co-inciding information that seems to confirm what Tito was saying.
In addition, there is the matter of regenerative circuits (also cited), which were raised as a possibity in Tito's setup.
This will help make things easier for those who seek to understand the principles of Teets' device...
And.... to build it ;D ;D ;D
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on September 17, 2014, 04:06:58 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvb39SwTXBE

make it simple...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 21, 2014, 04:13:17 PM

Will the totempole drive both n and p channel fets

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 22, 2014, 07:44:29 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnYaZgyOX-w

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on September 22, 2014, 09:23:35 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on September 21, 2014, 04:13:17 PM
Will the totempole drive both n and p channel fets

You won't be able to turn the P channel MOSFET off. A MOSFET responds to voltage between its gate and source. For any given MOSFET you need the driver to connect to a voltage that is at the source or beyond it. IE equal or more positive than the source for a P ch device, or equal or more negative for an N ch device.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on September 22, 2014, 09:38:33 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on September 22, 2014, 07:44:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnYaZgyOX-w

Everything in that video is correct. The emitter follower sort of configuration is a very common buffering scheme. A resistor between the buffer input, and the buffer output helps overcome the residual 0.7V or so that remains between the follower and each rail. 1K - 10K usually work well.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on September 23, 2014, 06:25:17 AM

Dave, here is a circuit sketch that will drive the P ch MOSFET properly.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 24, 2014, 06:45:16 AM

Thanks for the help Mark
Are you saying to come off pin 7

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on September 24, 2014, 07:26:57 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on September 24, 2014, 06:45:16 AM
Thanks for the help Mark
Are you saying to come off pin 7

Dave, use pin 7 for the P ch drive circuit. Use pin 3 for the N ch drive circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 25, 2014, 06:04:58 AM

Quote from: MarkE on September 24, 2014, 07:26:57 AM
Dave, use pin 7 for the P ch drive circuit. Use pin 3 for the N ch drive circuit.

I thought thats what you meant, Iv seen this done with other ic's.
Thanks Mark

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 25, 2014, 06:37:03 AM

http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/652292.pdf
Iv learned alot studying circuits and datasheets
And from folks on the forums
Thanks Everyone

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 29, 2014, 09:21:06 AM

Rectify

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on September 30, 2014, 03:24:28 PM

The left hand side is a blocking oscillator. I don't know what you are after with the right hand side. If it is DC, then one choke and two of the six diodes will do. If it is AC, then one choke and no diodes will do.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 30, 2014, 03:56:18 PM

MarkE
Can you post fixed circuit ? could the frequency of this circuit be changed ? Does the output voltage depends only on transformer ratio or also on frequency of pulses? I'm looking for a way to make variable DC power source replacing variac + diode bridge. Something which can output 30-190VDC from the input of 230VAC, at 35W - 50W.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 05, 2014, 10:56:49 AM

npn pnp joule thief
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D58-xKLpAwo&feature=youtu.be

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on October 05, 2014, 08:19:10 PM

Quote from: forest on September 30, 2014, 03:56:18 PM
MarkE
Can you post fixed circuit ? could the frequency of this circuit be changed ? Does the output voltage depends only on transformer ratio or also on frequency of pulses? I'm looking for a way to make variable DC power source replacing variac + diode bridge. Something which can output 30-190VDC from the input of 230VAC, at 35W - 50W.

A general purpose power supply can be purchased or built. Unless you want to build for building's sake, I'd go hunt for what you want off the shelf. Look for something like an Agilent 6614 or equivalent used or new from an Asian supplier. for example here is something in that power range that does 0-100VDC at 40W: http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Agilent-6115A-0-50V-8A-50-100V-4A-Variable-Precision-DC-Power-Supply-Unit-/111477472334?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f4933c4e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Agilent-6115A-0-50V-8A-50-100V-4A-Variable-Precision-DC-Power-Supply-Unit-/111477472334?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f4933c4e)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 07, 2014, 07:32:15 PM

Ok the proof is in the pudding
I hooked the two circuits together but without the output cap
it works, the one watt led will blind you, still seeing spots

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on October 28, 2014, 11:58:05 PM

came on guys , is there nobody interested in energy amplification anymore ?

let us back to school, in link provided bellow,
look at the table and compare Power primary(Pp) VS Power secondary(Ps) , hmmm ..... ;D

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/tracir.html#c3

..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 29, 2014, 08:04:04 AM

Quote from: Marsing on October 28, 2014, 11:58:05 PM
came on guys , is there nobody interested in energy amplification anymore ?

let us back to school, in link provided bellow,
look at the table and compare Power primary(Pp) VS Power secondary(Ps) , hmmm ..... ;D

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/tracir.html#c3 (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/tracir.html#c3)

..

114w in and 395w out. Thats odd. ;D will look into it later ;) ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 29, 2014, 12:02:04 PM

Tito once said he was using ac to pulse dc
How about pulsed dc to dc
I havent tried it yet, still thinking
I remember something Steven Mark said, he said he could see the 5v in the output, he was talking about frequency's.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 29, 2014, 05:14:39 PM

Works

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on October 30, 2014, 07:15:20 AM

I noticed I could run the load on either side of the bifilar coil so this will be the next test.
pushing and pulling on the load.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on October 30, 2014, 12:49:29 PM

Hi all,
one example off power amplification https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW2YVh044JI.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on October 31, 2014, 03:40:54 PM

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on October 30, 2014, 12:49:29 PM
Hi all,
one example off power amplification https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW2YVh044JI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW2YVh044JI).

Cool ;)
I could hear the relay when you connected it up. Would you we willing to start a thread about this?\Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on October 31, 2014, 03:51:26 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on October 29, 2014, 05:14:39 PM
Works

Hey Dave
Elegant simplicity :) Looks like you're feeding the bemf back into the primary. If you were feeding the secondary's bemf thru a diode to a new coil on the toroid, I wonder if the new pulse to the core would create a standing wave which you could draw from with a pickup coil.
I really like this.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 01, 2014, 08:56:28 AM

I was playing with the mazilli schematic trying to turn the current flow make it run from outside to the inside and this is what I came up with.
I havent tried it yet but thought I would post it for review, it should take the bemf from one side and feed it into the other, but it needs to be tested.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 01, 2014, 01:47:56 PM

looking over these last pages, Tito did point to some images of switching supplies. He also said once, from the way I understood, that to make a secondary of just a little more turns than the primary. From that, possibly the secondary wire should be a bit thicker, just a bit depending on number of turns difference, as to possibly get the primary and secondary resistance similar or even lower than the primary.

Like if we have a primary of 20 turns, and a secondary of say 25 turns, if the sec is wound using larger wire, it can carry more current than the primary, not as with conventional turn/wire size ratios we normally see. So if we hit the primary with 20v pulses, and we get 25v out, what would the current capability of the secondary be compared to the primary input current?

Just something to think on.

All the switching power supply stuff is great. But we need to figure out the 'twist'. The 1 item that allows for more out than in. I lean toward transformer configuration. Without the twist, all these other things are less than OU, even though some are very close to U. Use any of the circuits as input, but the transformer config is the key I believe.

One more thing. I tend to prefer a switching circuit config that when the primary is powered, the secondary has a rectifier config that does not conduct sec current till the primary power is disconnected. This allows the primary to have a consistent input no matter sec loading or changes to the sec winding. Gets rid of mutual inductance between pri and sec and the sec only draws off of field collapse.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 01, 2014, 04:11:43 PM

Something for the motor builders

A friend and I have gotten into the small quad copters a bit. The tiny ones fly soo well as compared to small helicopters, though there are small helis that cost a bit and fly mint.

Looking into them a bit, some of the motors are coreless motors. These tiny things really rock. So I looked into the coreless thing.... Some show comparisons to traditional core motors and explain the advantages of coreless....

http://www.precisionmicrodrives.com/tech-blog/2011/06/06/a-short-illustrated-primer-on-brushed-dc-motors

http://www.citizen-micro.com/tec/corelessmotor.html

This one has an interesting idea on reducing brush damage....

http://showcase.designnews.com/content/coreless-dc-motors-proprietary-reduced-electro-erosion-technology

And here is a diy guy... Hea and his brother made a car( link above on that page)

http://michaelnorcia.wordpress.com/motors/

I have a disassembled pancake motor from a car cooling fan that uses this principle. Ill find the pics and post.

These motors can be 98% eff. So if we want to reduce losses, this seems to be the direction to go with. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on November 01, 2014, 06:57:56 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on October 31, 2014, 03:40:54 PM
Cool ;)
I could hear the relay when you connected it up. Would you we willing to start a thread about this?\Bob

a scope shots ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 01, 2014, 08:35:44 PM

The pics below, from the links in my last post, show an armature and the other pic is of general parts and how they are assembled.

The mag is diametric, poles through diameter. So these could be converted to where the magnet is the armature/rotor and the brushes can be eliminated and controlled with a driver/hall sensor triggers.

So in the pics, the design is where the diametric tube magnet is stationary with the case and the armature slides down over the fixed mag. The mags field once out beyond the windings sinks to the iron motor casing as a path back to the other pole of the mag. Simple genius really.

So these may be very good generators also. I wonder if the motor casing were a bit wider and add a bigger ring magnet between the outside of the copper wire armature and the larger case if the motor would work any better. More dense field for the windings to work with.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 01, 2014, 08:54:57 PM

Escap has been manufacturing basket wound motor designs like that construction since the 1970's.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 01, 2014, 08:56:18 PM

Its strange. In the pic below, also from links given, think of it as turning clockwise.

The amature pole no.3, is about to be shunted by the brush if the rotor spins more clockwise. ??? What happens when we shunt a winding in a DC motor while turning? Especially when it is very close to the stator magnet at the time. Seems like a problem to me. ;)

And also, the pole no.3 winding, it is in series with the no.2 winding while no.3 winding is closer to the stator mag on the right, but winding no.1 is not in series with another pole but is further away from the left stator mag. So some of the windings are only pulling so much current due to series connection and some have full current some of the time. Both situations some of the time for each winding, and shunting each winding in between. Lol. seems like a good way to suppress efficiency.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 01, 2014, 09:13:09 PM

Quote from: MarkE on November 01, 2014, 08:54:57 PM
Escap has been manufacturing basket wound motor designs like that construction since the 1970's.

Yeah, it seems like they have been around for some time. Im just putting it down here as an example of better efficiency. No hysteresis, etc.

These are not the every day motors of days gone by. Now they are in everything. Probably the largest market is cell phones vibration. Anything small.

So if we make big ones, can we enjoy better efficiencies by going coreless? ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 01, 2014, 10:01:12 PM

It looks as though the small coreless motors may also do some coil shorting. So far of the motor pics Ive seen only 4 commutator pads, so 4 windings. There must be shorting of windings when the brushes contact 2 pads at the same time. Will have to look at that to see whats up. If there is shorting of the windings and this shorting creates any losses, then what does that mean in terms of a motor that is 98% eff if we can eliminate the coil shorting, and remove those losses if they exist?

How to eliminate the oil shorting. Individually isolated commutators for each winding?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 01, 2014, 10:03:22 PM

If it were only 2 windings, each with opposing pads, then no coil shorting. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 01, 2014, 11:56:18 PM

A vid on quad copters. Over a year ago. The vid gets better and more incredible as it goes. These are on auto pilot controlled by software. Wonderful and also kinda scary at the same time. So imagine what they can do now and in the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2itwFJCgFQ

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 02, 2014, 09:31:27 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on October 31, 2014, 03:51:26 PM
Hey Dave
Elegant simplicity :) Looks like you're feeding the bemf back into the primary. If you were feeding the secondary's bemf thru a diode to a new coil on the toroid, I wonder if the new pulse to the core would create a standing wave which you could draw from with a pickup coil.
I really like this.
Bob

Hey Bob missed your post, yes simple the buck converter cycles the current, when the switch is off the battery ceases to be part of the circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 02, 2014, 09:55:03 AM

Not sure how this would effect the circuit.
npn

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 02, 2014, 10:13:04 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2FfQjV7tAc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 03, 2014, 08:50:52 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 02, 2014, 10:13:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2FfQjV7tAc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2FfQjV7tAc)

Very sad Tito. You could help but you won't.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 03, 2014, 09:03:06 PM

Dave, I have explained to you before that anywhere you connect a transistor switch to an inductor, you need to provide a safe path for the inductor current to continue through when you turn the first switch off. When you wire up these serpentine circuits you need to keep that in mind.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 03, 2014, 11:01:21 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 03, 2014, 08:50:52 PM

Very sad Tito. You could help but you won't.

:o i thought i had helped already. :o

ok analyzed this, a battery , cap, three separated coil is enough but more is more, just think what tesla is discovered when he said he notice a little increase. that little increase is actually the one that makes free energy.

happy holloween everyone ;)

peace be with you :)

MERRY CHRISTMASS :D

BY THE HIGHWAY, CAN A STUN GUN CAN BE A POSSIBLE CURE AN EBOLA VICTIM?. JUST THINKING OK?
CAUSE IF HUMAN CAN SURVIVE THAT ELECTROCUTION, JUST THINKING IF EBOLA VIRUS CAN. ??? WHAT EVERYONE THINK ABOUT THAT?

MAYBE A LAST SORT OF SOLUTION? ;D
WELL, I ELECTROCUTE A FISH, AFTER A COUPLE OF SECONDS IT LIVES AGAIN. MAYBE A HIGH VOLTAGE CAN KILL IT. ;D

COMMENTS ARE OPEN SERIOUSLY............................................ :)

OTITS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 03, 2014, 11:25:26 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 03, 2014, 11:01:21 PM

:o i thought i had helped already. :o

ok analyzed this, a battery , cap, three separated coil is enough but more is more, just think what tesla is discovered when he said he notice a little increase. that little increase is actually the one that makes free energy.

happy holloween everyone ;)

peace be with you :)

MERRY CHRISTMASS :D

BY THE HIGHWAY, CAN A STUN GUN CAN BE A POSSIBLE CURE AN EBOLA VICTIM?. JUST THINKING OK?
CAUSE IF HUMAN CAN SURVIVE THAT ELECTROCUTION, JUST THINKING IF EBOLA VIRUS CAN. ??? WHAT EVERYONE THINK ABOUT THAT?

MAYBE A LAST SORT OF SOLUTION? ;D
WELL, I ELECTROCUTE A FISH, AFTER A COUPLE OF SECONDS IT LIVES AGAIN. MAYBE A HIGH VOLTAGE CAN KILL IT. ;D

COMMENTS ARE OPEN SERIOUSLY............................................ :)

OTITS ;D

"he said he notice a little increase"

Does anyone know where Tesla said this?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 04, 2014, 01:43:25 AM

No idea Mags. I thought it was Steven Mark...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2014, 07:21:45 AM

Quote from: MarkE on November 03, 2014, 09:03:06 PM
Dave, I have explained to you before that anywhere you connect a transistor switch to an inductor, you need to provide a safe path for the inductor current to continue through when you turn the first switch off. When you wire up these serpentine circuits you need to keep that in mind.

After reading your post I went back and studied the circuits.
I provided a path for the current but not the electron and the current flow follows the electron flow just in the opposite direction, the current is a product of the electron flow.
The pnp circuit will kill the transistor the npn circuit will work but not very well because most of the electrons will feed into the battery.
I have been very busy as of late but my next exp. will be with the mazilli circuit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 04, 2014, 11:28:33 AM

Dave current in a coil changes as the E*t product. If you switch one coil into another such as you do through your diodes, then the instantaneous voltage spike can be very high, and destructive.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on November 04, 2014, 11:50:03 AM

Dave, I still don't think it's about the schematics, but more about the winding. You've probably posted several working schematics without knowing the operating principle.

Something to ponder about winding techniques. In several systems (TK/Kapagen, Floyd Sweet VTA, TPU) there is much focus on cancelling/nullifying magnetic fields in a coil.

Attached are 2 examples of this.

On the surface, they would appear identical. Both nullify inductance. The difference is that in figure A, the electric and magnetic fields cancel, whereas in figure B, only the magnetic component is cancelled. The result is a standing electric field that is positive on one end and negative on the other. This field is like the electric field in a unipolar generator.

It explains why so many devices use a mix of CW and CCW winding techniques, it's the only way to keep the dipoles separate while still cancelling the magnetic field. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2014, 01:16:06 PM

Your coil design reminds me of an antenna I ran across a few years back.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on November 04, 2014, 01:33:02 PM

Neat pic, where's the link from? An EH antenna design perhaps?

Using 2 opposed coils would result in the same effect, but would not as efficient since less of the magnetic field would cancel. Then again, you'd need a magnetic component to actually utilize a standing electric wave, so perhaps it serves a dual-purpose.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on November 04, 2014, 01:41:37 PM

"ok analyzed this, a battery , cap, three separated coil is enough"

maybe 2 bifi coils... first bifi for primary for extra power and second bifi the especial extra....
and connections ? coil arrangement ? ...is the secret...see the pictures...it's all in this forum...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on November 04, 2014, 03:11:56 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Reiyuki on November 04, 2014, 04:20:58 PM

Quote from: zdiblo on November 04, 2014, 01:41:37 PM
"ok analyzed this, a battery , cap, three separated coil is enough"

maybe 2 bifi coils... first prim and second extra....

T's very first posts on this thread were about trying to understand/replicate Floyd Sweet's VTA. I'd reread these to start.
http://www.hyiq.org/Images/SQM.jpg (http://www.hyiq.org/Images/SQM.jpg) and http://www.rexresearch.com/sweet/nothing.pdf (http://www.rexresearch.com/sweet/nothing.pdf)

Perhaps the setup could be simplified; instead of 2ea 2000 turn kicker coils, you'd just use 1 between both bifilar coils. Then instead of using magnets on the VTA, you'd wind over simple transformer cores and drive at anti-resonance.

The best answer is the one that explains the most. Why wind CW and CCW coils? Why have coils at 90deg to the bifilars? What purpose does the magnet serve? etc, etc. Without having some concepts behind operation, it's like trying to build an internal combustion engine by looking at a picture of a car. My own theories are fairly complete at this point. If anyone has questions, I'll explain best I can.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 04, 2014, 05:17:23 PM

Hey Reiyuki
I dont remember the link but yes I believe I was looking into the EH antenna at the time, I save most diagrams I run across.
Magnetic cancelling may be the answer we'r looking for I have a few idea's Im working on as time permits.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 04, 2014, 06:38:08 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 03, 2014, 11:25:26 PM
"he said he notice a little increase"

Does anyone know where Tesla said this?

Mags

:D
Hi body, i don't want to make quarrel to anyone anymore ok? i just want to give some points to brother aking.

That is not the actual word he said, i just read that he notice a slight increase. ;)

try to read the colorado spring, if i'm not mistaken. :)

or try to consult our best reader QWERT for this ok. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 04, 2014, 07:46:18 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 04, 2014, 06:38:08 PM

:D
Hi body, i don't want to make quarrel to anyone anymore ok? i just want to give some points to brother aking.

That is not the actual word he said, i just read that he notice a slight increase. ;)

try to read the colorado spring, if i'm not mistaken. :)

or try to consult our best reader QWERT for this ok. :)

I understand Tito, cos some people are rude. Why not pm me?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 04, 2014, 07:48:54 PM

As I understand the Colorado Spring notes, the magic is in the third coil.
It is because it is separated by a middle coil to prevent normal induction.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on November 04, 2014, 09:58:00 PM

Quote from: Loner on October 30, 2014, 12:00:45 AM
Quick Note:

That chart is a misprint. If you do the Pp and Ps calculations yourself (I didn't do the detailed math, but it is obvious enough...) you will see that the actual values are far closer than what is shown, and the Pp IS greater than the Ps.

Nice find, however. Good to see that people are actually reading these charts and info. If you had any idea of how many education texts have such errors, including in the Theory sections, you would be amazed.

I'd wager that this one is a "Typo". If it weren't, I "Think" the author might have mentioned the "OU" produced...

Hi,
i presume that you have found hundreds errors in education texts books.

thats not so interesting anymore since it was probably typo/misprint ( sorry mag ), but, i still wonder, if Rs is zero then Pp may be infinite, so in your opinion, is the Pp consume infinite power spontaneously or not ?.

and what about this http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/indmut.html#c1 it describe induction, Faraday and lenz law, are you agree in every words written in the "Coupled Inductors" section ?.

the third question is most important for me, it's ok if you decide to refuse answering my two first question,(if you know) how many "coil" and "capacitor" or (if exist )"diode" or secret component are in Steven Mark TPU?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 05, 2014, 02:41:04 AM

analyse slight increase , especially in vacuum tubes
or prepare yourself like monks in Shaolin - bowl of water and shape your hands by hitting it :o :-[ :-* ::) ??? :P :) :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 05, 2014, 07:17:35 AM

Quote from: MarkE on November 03, 2014, 09:03:06 PM
Dave, I have explained to you before that anywhere you connect a transistor switch to an inductor, you need to provide a safe path for the inductor current to continue through when you turn the first switch off. When you wire up these serpentine circuits you need to keep that in mind.

Sometimes I have to sleep on it but I saw the error of my ways :D
Now it will work, it will cycle the current and the electrons.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 05, 2014, 07:58:10 AM

Which raises the question

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 05, 2014, 09:48:05 AM

Which brings up another question
What if we run it in buckboost mode.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 05, 2014, 11:17:44 AM

You know me I have to take it to the extreme ;D
Some people just dont know when to quit ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 05, 2014, 12:07:48 PM

Mark do you think its worth the investment?
This is a little extreme but a variation.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on November 06, 2014, 08:25:20 PM

Quote from: Reiyuki on November 04, 2014, 04:20:58 PM
T's very first posts on this thread were about trying to understand/replicate Floyd Sweet's VTA. I'd reread these to start.
http://www.hyiq.org/Images/SQM.jpg (http://www.hyiq.org/Images/SQM.jpg) and http://www.rexresearch.com/sweet/nothing.pdf (http://www.rexresearch.com/sweet/nothing.pdf)

Perhaps the setup could be simplified; instead of 2ea 2000 turn kicker coils, you'd just use 1 between both bifilar coils. Then instead of using magnets on the VTA, you'd wind over simple transformer cores and drive at anti-resonance.

The best answer is the one that explains the most. Why wind CW and CCW coils? Why have coils at 90deg to the bifilars? What purpose does the magnet serve? etc, etc. Without having some concepts behind operation, it's like trying to build an internal combustion engine by looking at a picture of a car. My own theories are fairly complete at this point. If anyone has questions, I'll explain best I can.

Please move on Reiyuki, i'd would like to read your complete theory and surely some others.

including mr. known everything ::) ;D.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 06, 2014, 09:47:28 PM

Listen to how Peter Lindemann describes the key energy amplification dynamic in many of Tesla's patents here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU-41VqjATdRAlN7ztX8S30A&v=eDoz5vgkTOI&feature=player_detailpage#t=2219
It's basically charging an inductor, discharging into a cap. Sounds like Tito as well, with a few twists of course.
One of the things that's stayed with me is Mags' reference to Tito saying that the zener diode was taking the place of the spark gap. Once the voltage reached the zener's threshold, pop!
What if we had a multi stranded (i.e., charging in parallel) core, discharging through a zener, then into a cap, and a few other coil arrangements to boost things and perhaps feed back into the system...
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 06, 2014, 10:05:42 PM

Bob, the fundamental issue is that energy storage devices: inductors, capacitors etc always give back less electrical energy than we put into them. When the quality factor of the storage device is high the portion we lose can be very small, but it is still there.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on November 06, 2014, 10:59:19 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on November 06, 2014, 09:47:28 PM
Listen to how Peter Lindemann describes the key energy amplification dynamic in many of Tesla's patents here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU-41VqjATdRAlN7ztX8S30A&v=eDoz5vgkTOI&feature=player_detailpage#t=2219
It's basically charging an inductor, discharging into a cap. Sounds like Tito as well, with a few twists of course.
One of the things that's stayed with me is Mags' reference to Tito saying that the zener diode was taking the place of the spark gap. Once the voltage reached the zener's threshold, pop!
What if we had a multi stranded (i.e., charging in parallel) core, discharging through a zener, then into a cap, and a few other coil arrangements to boost things and perhaps feed back into the system...
Bob

It's more powerful than that concept, automatic and dangerous,
"charging an inductor, discharging into a cap" is only to limit power consumption at right resonance, IMO

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 06, 2014, 11:38:29 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on November 06, 2014, 09:47:28 PM
Listen to how Peter Lindemann describes the key energy amplification dynamic in many of Tesla's patents here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU-41VqjATdRAlN7ztX8S30A&v=eDoz5vgkTOI&feature=player_detailpage#t=2219 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU-41VqjATdRAlN7ztX8S30A&v=eDoz5vgkTOI&feature=player_detailpage#t=2219)
It's basically charging an inductor, discharging into a cap. Sounds like Tito as well, with a few twists of course.
One of the things that's stayed with me is Mags' reference to Tito saying that the zener diode was taking the place of the spark gap. Once the voltage reached the zener's threshold, pop!
What if we had a multi stranded (i.e., charging in parallel) core, discharging through a zener, then into a cap, and a few other coil arrangements to boost things and perhaps feed back into the system...
Bob

Im not sure Tito even used the zener this way. It was just a guess while thinking about it. He wont confirm it either way.

Many would say that the zener would just regulate the voltage at a constant rate. But that would be conventional thinking when it comes to zeners. It cant replace spark gap directly. Say we have 1kv zener and the discharge cap reaches 1kv, well the zener would be a 1kv voltage drop and the output could only be any voltage above the caps 1kv. So if the cap had 1025v and was then connected to the circuit with a 1kv zener/spark gap, the load would only see 25v.

So the only way I see the zener involved with an alternate method spark gap would be used as a trigger to control a switch/transistor/etc. But from the way he wrote about it, I dont think that is correct either, as he told me they are wonderful devices and can handle a lot of current. So just as a trigger doesnt add up.

So still, after all this time, still not sure.

After all this time however, I deduce that the answer is in the coil/transformer winding/construction as I said the other day and Reiyuki is saying so also. I have no idea yet how to use that coil, as to how to drive it or get power out yet. Hope he can deliver a starter kit of info on a basic circuit and coil dimensions. All else is just control circuitry. We all have to know by now that there is no special circuitry that can make a normal coil/transformer produce OU. So far anyway. lol

Back to the Utkin pdf. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 07, 2014, 07:01:34 AM

Building a capacitive discharge circuit is easy enough
discharging through a load or through a transformer
but will you get ou :-\
Q1 can pump up C2 to very high voltages then Q2 will discharge C2 into the load or tran.
I cant see how a zener would do any good.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 07, 2014, 07:19:10 AM

You would probably have to use igbt's the power through Q2 would probably fry anything else, but that would depend on the frequency of Q1 and other parameters.
Q1 could be ran at high frequency then Q2 could be ran at 60hz

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 07, 2014, 07:32:49 AM

Im not sure if a diode would cycle the current back through the load but it should since Q2 disconnects the load from the battery.
Mark would know more about this.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 07, 2014, 08:30:47 AM

meditate what I told you about monks of Shaolin ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 07, 2014, 09:44:44 AM

A capacitor would be better it will allow the magnetic field in the trany to oscillate, whereas the diode would just keep building the field.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 07, 2014, 09:50:35 AM

I'm pretty convinced Tito is using the zener as a defence mechanism to prevent run away.
I don't think it is significant in getting ou.
Tito also recommends using a car voltage regulator as a cheap and ready made alternative.
I think there may be something to Tesla's 3 coil Colorado springs experiment - especially using bifilar coils.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 07, 2014, 10:33:43 AM

Not to get off subject but a boost converter could deliver very high voltage stress on an hho cell, without current draw through the cell.

Maybe I should have said without electron flow through the cell.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 07, 2014, 11:04:04 AM

Can we pull electrons from the ground.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 07, 2014, 11:16:41 AM

I see now why they use two grounding rods it makes the earth part of the circuit.
There will be more stress at the rod where the high voltage is entering the ground than on the battery ground.
In the end its all about electron flow, current is a product of electron flow.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 07, 2014, 12:15:14 PM

When Q2 fires there's a high voltage discharge but there is also a massive pull of electrons from the neg side of the battery through L2, this is the buck converter.
By breaking the connection to the battery the electron pull is on the grounding rod instead of the battery, I dont think the diode on the grounding rod is needed since the electrons once pulled will not want to run to ground.
and current will follow the electron path which will oscillate between L2 and C3.
Also the ground at the battery will not pull electrons because they are repelled as well and if they do it will be minimal, interesting anyway.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 07, 2014, 03:08:50 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 07, 2014, 09:50:35 AM
I'm pretty convinced Tito is using the zener as a defence mechanism to prevent run away.
I don't think it is significant in getting ou.
Tito also recommends using a car voltage regulator as a cheap and ready made alternative.
I think there may be something to Tesla's 3 coil Colorado springs experiment - especially using bifilar coils.

I think zener diode with resistor can be used to dump excess energy, as replacement for spark gap in Kapanadze aquarium 2 device . If you noticed also in aquarium 1 video he said he used previously electronic make&break device but it was damaged. It could be transistor but also it could be zener diode. The difficulty is to prevent runaway situation when voltage on capacitor rises too much and in positive feedback way. A regulator device preventing such capacitor failure would be a great tool.
I know that zenre diode with resistor was used in very old simple regulating DC power supply.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 07, 2014, 09:24:06 PM

Quote from: forest on November 07, 2014, 03:08:50 PM

I think zener diode with resistor can be used to dump excess energy, as replacement for spark gap in Kapanadze aquarium 2 device . If you noticed also in aquarium 1 video he said he used previously electronic make&break device but it was damaged. It could be transistor but also it could be zener diode. The difficulty is to prevent runaway situation when voltage on capacitor rises too much and in positive feedback way. A regulator device preventing such capacitor failure would be a great tool.
I know that zenre diode with resistor was used in very old simple regulating DC power supply.

Well, it could be what Aking says, where the zener acts as a limiter to prevent runaway. But we still need a circuit/transformer that provides that condition.

It also could be as in Titos first circuit as a control to draw output back to the source. But still the transformer is a mystery.

Without that transformer, all of these ideas are good. Im still trying to get a grip on what Reiku said about the configuration of the 2 windings. If the 2 windings are set up as field canceling, then how do we get output from a 3rd(or more) windings?

I did some fiddling on sim. in the first circuit that appears when the sim is loaded, I replaced the inductor with a transformer of equal ratio primary and secondary. Then I copied the circuit, then pasted. One circuit has the 2 transformer windings in series and the other the same but reversed polarity of the secondary to see any differences. Surprisingly, they both show inductance and resonance with the cap. The one that should have had field cancelling seemed to have just less inductance with higher resonance freq. So I dont know if the sim is acting up or that is just the way things work. I changed the 10ohm resistor to 4 ohm and the 100ohm res to a very low ohm. Nothing spectacular, but the cancelling windings seemed to put out much more power to the 4ohm res. Will have to replace the cancelling transformer with a smaller inductance to see if it acts the same.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on November 08, 2014, 05:58:09 AM

What coil are we talking about here?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 08, 2014, 09:09:22 PM

This is the Tesla 3 coil system developed at Colorado Springs.
Tesla also developed a bifilar coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 08, 2014, 09:34:11 PM

In Tesla's own words..

So what Tesla is saying is that coil c takes the place of the skyscraper in his
ou earthquake machine.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 09, 2014, 01:13:15 AM

When I read that I read:

One can either get a high voltage by:

1) Driving a transformer that has a high turns ratio in the forward mode, OR
2) Switching current to an inductor that flies back. This is what I interpret as his use of the term "loose".

An example of 1) is a capacitive discharge ignition. An example of 2) is the far more common flyback ignition that dates back to Kettering, (still 11 years after the cited Tesla quote).

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on November 09, 2014, 03:46:55 AM

,,,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 09, 2014, 11:13:28 AM

In Tesla systems that "loose" or "rigid" terminology refers to the magnetic coupling coefficient between the coils, which is generally achieved by varying physical spacing between the interacting coils. To see the effects of varying the coupling constant on both geometry and performance, I suggest playing with the excellent Tesla Coil Calculator here:
http://www.classictesla.com/java/javatc/javatc.html
Load the "sample coil" and then look down the page at the calculated output data, and you will find the computed coupling coefficient and the recommended coefficient, then you can change this and look at the effect on the coil geometry (a "picture" of the coil appears at the bottom) and the resulting output parameters.
This calculator is why my TinselKoil VII works so well; it was designed using this calculator, and in the real coil, changing the coupling has a major effect on performance. A spark-gap TC will generally require rather loose coupling, which allows the secondary to ring freely between spark stimuli. Solid-state TCs which are driven at the secondary's resonant frequency will be able to use tighter ("rigid") coupling since the secondary is not required to ring freely as it is pumped cycle-by-cycle.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 09, 2014, 11:27:14 AM

By coincidence I have just completed a demonstration capacitive-discharge ignition coil circuit that illustrates several principles that may be useful to other researchers.
The system uses a 74c14 hex inverting Schmitt trigger chip to produce 2 oscillators. One gate is used for the oscillator proper and two more in series on the output to clean up and sharpen the rectangular pulses. The frequency and duty cycle of the pulses are set by the resistors and capacitor on the oscillating gate. One oscillator (3 gates) is configured to produce around 1100 Hz which is fed to the low-voltage winding of an ordinary center-tapped filament transformer. The high voltage winding then charges a capacitor bank / voltage doubler system. The second oscillator (the other 3 gates) is configured to produce a 3-4 Hz oscillation which is used to trigger an SCR which dumps the accumulated charge on the cap bank into the primary of the automotive ignition coil.
This single chip, dual oscillator with adjustable frequency and duty cycle (put in potentiometers instead of the timing resistors) can be used over a very wide frequency range and can be made to produce "beat notes" as some people in some other threads are trying to achieve with 494s and other arrangements. The two oscillators can be synchronous (phase-locked) or asynchronous as the maker desires. The general scheme of using the SCR to discharge the cap bank into a load may also be of use to experimenters.
This is not intended to be a high-performance system as I have constructed it, it is just a demonstrator of the principles involved.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4EHiXv_IXo
Schematic from the Bowden circuits website is reproduced below.
http://www.bowdenshobbycircuits.info/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 09, 2014, 11:44:52 AM

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201019368766?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Well, this is how I get 400 thousand volts.
It can be controlled by a tiny chip or 555 timer or other micro - processors.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 09, 2014, 12:22:34 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 09, 2014, 11:44:52 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201019368766?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201019368766?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Well, this is how I get 400 thousand volts.
It can be controlled by a tiny chip or 555 timer or other micro - processors.

400 kV is a bit of an "exaggeration", since the insulation on those output wires is only good to 1 kV or less. And anyone with experience with HV can tell you that a 2 cm arc between point electrodes is only indicative of a few tens of kV, if that much. Between large spheres in dry air you can expect to spark at 30 kV per centimeter of gap, and with points you will need much less voltage to jump a 2 cm gap. These values are valid for DC and for AC to at least 300 MHz.

Feel free to demonstrate otherwise with this little, cheap gadget that claims to be able to spark across a whole 2 cm. A true 400 kV will spark across 20 cm air gap, or even more.

http://www.tesla-coil.com/official-air-breakdown-voltage.htm (http://www.tesla-coil.com/official-air-breakdown-voltage.htm)

Some 300 kV sparks at about 20 cm gap:

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 09, 2014, 01:07:55 PM

a.king21
Nice diagram and reference. Tito has mentioned that his setup involves three coils. My own feeling is that in its most basic sense, it consists of a primary coil, a resonating coil and a pickup coil.

A couple of things we need to be aware of
- that Tito has repeatedly spoken about balance. If we look at the Don Smith devices and some of their alleged replications, balance was a key issue for their builders. Coils need to be balanced to ensure their sympathetic resonance.
- not disturbing the dipole. We know that as soon as we begin to draw electrical charge from the resonant system, the frequency changes, and this destroys the resonance and dipole. I believe the swbifi coil is a way around this problem. See some of the comments this summer by Stupify12.

I also believe feedback via a diode is involved, and Dave 45 has been looking at this. In my understanding, this could involve pulsing feedback from bemf back to the primary. Once you generate resonance in the primary, you have a secondary that can be brought to resonance and a pickup coil that will not disturb the resonance when used.

As for the zener, I'm not sure.. Wasn't there a song about it - Have you Zener? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxOBInMi3l0&feature=player_detailpage#t=88
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 09, 2014, 01:59:05 PM

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201019368766?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I haven't measured the voltage. It certainly gives a 2 cm spark with a crack that I assume breaks the sound barrier. But then I only run it on 3 volts normally. I have had no problems with insulation breaking down at all.
If you know of any sites with information about types of spark gap, length etc and their relationship to voltage I would be very interested indeed.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 09, 2014, 03:42:04 PM

Can we raise the voltage of a buck converter.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 09, 2014, 04:38:09 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 09, 2014, 01:59:05 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201019368766?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201019368766?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

I haven't measured the voltage. It certainly gives a 2 cm spark with a crack that I assume breaks the sound barrier. But then I only run it on 3 volts normally. I have had no problems with insulation breaking down at all.
If you know of any sites with information about types of spark gap, length etc and their relationship to voltage I would be very interested indeed.

There are plenty of such sites, google is your friend. Below I reproduce three different tables from different sources. For accurate, calibrated gap breakdown voltages you should use spheres of larger diameter than the gap distance itself; this will give you the _greatest_ breakdown voltage per distance. For other geometries, like the needle gaps most people will be using, the breakdown voltage per distance is much less. You can see that for needle gaps of 20 mm the breakdown voltage is well under 30 kV in air at normal temperature, pressure and humidity.

I think someone put one too many zeros in that EBay advert; 40 kV maximum is a bit more reasonable for your device but I seriously doubt that it will even reach that voltage. What is the _greatest_ gap it will spark over using needles or large smooth surfaces?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 16, 2014, 03:58:35 AM

once again i want to share this to everyone. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaHDCcUcmc0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaHDCcUcmc0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKpmdgeF_ho

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 16, 2014, 09:20:04 AM

Spot on Tito
There are about four or five on this forum that this fits to a T
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKpmdgeF_ho (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKpmdgeF_ho)

Always looking for a booger instead of seeing the possibility's

This is a long but good vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXtO7McrRIY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXtO7McrRIY)

You boogers know who you are ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 16, 2014, 02:07:18 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hplgrNB0JfI
If the pos side of the cap has a higher pos voltage than the battery will the electrons flow to the neg side of the cap rather than to the battery.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 16, 2014, 05:30:50 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on November 16, 2014, 02:07:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hplgrNB0JfI
If the pos side of the cap has a higher pos voltage than the battery will the electrons flow to the neg side of the cap rather than to the battery.

No. When the switch is on, current flows from the top to the bottom of the inductor. When the switch turns off current continues flowing in that direction through the inductor. When the switch turns off the current loop through the battery is opened. It is not reversed. If you want to recharge the battery from the inductor you need to switch both sides of the inductor, or couple the inductor to another inductor (IE make a transformer) that has a rectified connection to the battery.

Conventional theory tells us that if you do build the circuit with two switches or a flyback secondary that energy will be lost each cycle to: resistance in the switches, cross conduction in the switches, resistance in the coil, resistance in the wiring, and a small bit of radiation.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on November 16, 2014, 05:54:49 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 16, 2014, 03:58:35 AM
once again i want to share this to everyone. :)
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKpmdgeF_ho

In the end we only regret the chances we didn't take.

Take risks : if you win you will be happy, if you lose you will be wise.

Don't die wondering.

A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

Whether you think you can or think you cannot you're right.

You are what you think.

If you don't control your mind, someone else will.

Be strong you never know who you are inspiring.

MAKE TODAY RIDICULOUSLY AMAZING.
YOU ARE CREATOR SUPPORTS YOUR DREAMS.

end.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 16, 2014, 06:43:03 PM

It needs another cap

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on November 16, 2014, 07:24:52 PM

The topic is ENERGY AMPLIFICATION :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thFuT4FaLdk
This is power amplification ?

Best rewards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 16, 2014, 07:32:14 PM

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on November 16, 2014, 07:24:52 PM
The topic is ENERGY AMPLIFICATION :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thFuT4FaLdk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thFuT4FaLdk)
This is power amplification ?

Best rewards

I dont mean to be rude but without a schematic your video's are useless and a waste of my time.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 16, 2014, 07:37:11 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on November 16, 2014, 06:43:03 PM
It needs another cap

No, that doesn't work either.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on November 16, 2014, 07:38:19 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on November 16, 2014, 07:32:14 PM
I dont mean to be rude but without a schematic your video's are useless and a waste of my time.

Thanks for your opinion Dave45 but this forum is not only you , and if you want i cant provide a schematic for you :) .
No hard feelings , :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 16, 2014, 07:43:24 PM

QuoteNo hard feelings

None at all, I just will ignore your vids ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on November 16, 2014, 07:48:02 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on November 16, 2014, 07:43:24 PM
None at all, I just will ignore your vids ;)

Now you are rude ... but ok no problem. good vibrations because you need ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 16, 2014, 07:59:49 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 16, 2014, 03:58:35 AM
once again i want to share this to everyone. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaHDCcUcmc0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaHDCcUcmc0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKpmdgeF_ho

The first is an expression of common motivational speeches. The Reader's Digest version is: "Look where you want to go."

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on November 16, 2014, 08:27:25 PM

.. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on November 17, 2014, 05:19:36 AM

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on November 16, 2014, 07:24:52 PM
The topic is ENERGY AMPLIFICATION :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thFuT4FaLdk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thFuT4FaLdk)
This is power amplification ?

Best rewards

Hi Nelson,

Your question cannot be answered from your video. To give an answer, you would need to check the input current taken from your 11V battery when the motor runs from the output of your setup. And then compare the average Vdc*Idc input power to the output current times the output voltage running the motor. This would also involve measuring the output voltage across the motor and the output current the motor draws.

IF you do not have 2 voltage meters and 2 current meters (all DC) then use the single meter, moving it in steps, first to check the input current taken by your running circuit from the battery (when the output runs the motor of course), second to check the output current that runs the motor and third to check the DC output voltage across the running motor.

This way you can learn about a much better reality on the power levels involved. I assume there is some filtering at your output like a puffer capacitor from which your DC motor runs, so that your digital Ampermeter may measure as close values to the truth as the cleanness of the DC output current lets it. Perhaps a choke coil would help further clean the DC output if you run the motor through a choke coil and also use a puffer capacitor directly parallel with the motor, after the series choke.
Saying this otherwise: use an LC low pass filter to check the true DC power taken by the motor from your circuit output. OF course the use of such LC low pass filter at the input of the circuit can help clean the measurement of the input current too. Obviously, the currents can be checked by your new scope too: just insert an 1 Ohm (or 0.1 Ohm etc) current shunt resistor in series with the input batterry wire and measure the voltage drop across it with your scope (scope should have DC input coupling).

I mention all this because it is very 'spectacular' you compare the motor run first from 11V battery, then you run it from your circuit, the higher RPM from the output sounds very convincing indeed. However the label on your motor says it is a 30V DC motor if I understand it correctly, so trying to run a 30V motor from 11V can only result in a low RPM working.

Looking forward to your further video(s) as you mention, keep up the good work.

Greetings,
Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 17, 2014, 06:28:09 PM

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on November 16, 2014, 07:24:52 PM
The topic is ENERGY AMPLIFICATION :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thFuT4FaLdk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thFuT4FaLdk)
This is power amplification ?
Best rewards

Alejandro
Very cool! I see a relay wired in reverse to self-oscillate and the stator of an AC induction motor, like you might find in a cheap coffee grinder, some caps of varying sizes, some rectifiers and diode; and of course, the characteristic green spark of RE.
That's what it's all about, no? Using stuff we can find lying around and doing extraordinary things with it. I would love to see more details.
Felicidades, irmao! :)
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on November 17, 2014, 07:34:19 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on November 17, 2014, 06:28:09 PM
Alejandro
Very cool! I see a relay wired in reverse to self-oscillate and the stator of an AC induction motor, like you might find in a cheap coffee grinder, some caps of varying sizes, some rectifiers and diode; and of course, the characteristic green spark of RE.
That's what it's all about, no? Using stuff we can find lying around and doing extraordinary things with it. I would love to see more details.
Felicidades, irmao! :)
Bob

Hi Bob i'm not Alejandro :) I'm Nelson i think you are mistake about person but no problem :)
About the circuit is not so simple as you describe , the problem is that circuit is make with scrap and people do not pay enough attention to some details.
The flare is not green because the relay contacts or cooper oxidation:) i can show a video where this color can be violet (BEMF generated in the coil of relay) or green when i combine with the BEMF generated by the stator coil and stored in the one of the caps . The result as you can see give a amplification in the output , and i show with the motor run with and without circuit .

Thanks for your message Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on November 17, 2014, 07:56:19 PM

Quote from: gyulasun on November 17, 2014, 05:19:36 AM
Hi Nelson,

Your question cannot be answered from your video. To give an answer, you would need to check the input current taken from your 11V battery when the motor runs from the output of your setup. And then compare the average Vdc*Idc input power to the output current times the output voltage running the motor. This would also involve measuring the output voltage across the motor and the output current the motor draws.

IF you do not have 2 voltage meters and 2 current meters (all DC) then use the single meter, moving it in steps, first to check the input current taken by your running circuit from the battery (when the output runs the motor of course), second to check the output current that runs the motor and third to check the DC output voltage across the running motor.

Hi
This way you can learn about a much better reality on the power levels involved. I assume there is some filtering at your output like a puffer capacitor from which your DC motor runs, so that your digital Ampermeter may measure as close values to the truth as the cleanness of the DC output current lets it. Perhaps a choke coil would help further clean the DC output if you run the motor through a choke coil and also use a puffer capacitor directly parallel with the motor, after the series choke.
Saying this otherwise: use an LC low pass filter to check the true DC power taken by the motor from your circuit output. OF course the use of such LC low pass filter at the input of the circuit can help clean the measurement of the input current too. Obviously, the currents can be checked by your new scope too: just insert an 1 Ohm (or 0.1 Ohm etc) current shunt resistor in series with the input batterry wire and measure the voltage drop across it with your scope (scope should have DC input coupling).

I mention all this because it is very 'spectacular' you compare the motor run first from 11V battery, then you run it from your circuit, the higher RPM from the output sounds very convincing indeed. However the label on your motor says it is a 30V DC motor if I understand it correctly, so trying to run a 30V motor from 11V can only result in a low RPM working.

Looking forward to your further video(s) as you mention, keep up the good work.

Greetings,
Gyula

Hi gyulasun thanks for the suggestions to the probes :) i will try make the test in oscilloscope with resistor to measure the voltage drop but my resources are very low .
In this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf_qUlwSZl0 i use a 12v motor in the test so is more easy to compare.
And in this i use a lamp in the probe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9daYU4JBMu4 and in this you can see the voltage drop in battery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7EkHm08Te4
Now think with me :
When a put the motor direct in the battery the battery not supply the circuit ok ? So when a connect the motor in the output of the circuit , you have 2 loads:
the circuit and the motor :) but you can see that motor will improve their rpm . The improve in rpm is not possible without combine the BEMF with the current stored in the caps.The power that provide high rpm to the motor is not result of the power stored in battery but by this effect that show green flare.;
It's so simple test to do that anyone is the work of testing.
Thanks for you help and your comment

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on November 17, 2014, 08:17:36 PM

One more thing :
I never say that circuits are overunity or other thing like that.
I show with rude examples that efficiency off the common circuits are much to improve
I respect the opinion of everybody and i learn everyday with lots of people and opinions but I am sure that even 20% of this forum ever have been at work to read the notes from the tesla notes of Colorado Springs . And how are they going to understand certain details?
For the people is convenient the eldorado machine with overunity and things like that , but forget to improve what we have now.
people that have doubts test ! the materials are not expensive !
I want to see people before showing skepticism test!It's too silly for testing?
If have people interested in a diagram to test i can provide . just send me a email to nelsonrochaa@gmail.com

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 17, 2014, 09:05:31 PM

Nelson,
Thanks for the reply. Sorry - I was listening to someone named Alejandro before I replied, and his name was stuck in my head.
I experimented quite a bit with reverse-wired relays a few years back. I find the radiant arcing is hard on them, but they produce interesting results. I look forward to seeing more.
In my view, this is the kind of thing we need more of - using scrap parts in new (but very old :) ways.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 18, 2014, 08:04:14 AM

We'v all seen the Tesla transmitter but have you thought about how the primary effects the secondary.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 18, 2014, 09:05:24 AM

Magnetic field expels electron.
This is how motors work and generators work.
Tesla was using this principle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUCtCYty-ns

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 18, 2014, 09:16:27 AM

Dave, the MIT demonstration is of the Lorentz force. No electrons were expelled or otherwise harmed in that experiment. The Lorentz force is indeed the basis of electrodynamic machines. Which on a little side note is why those who chase BEMF free machines are chasing torque-less machines.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 19, 2014, 07:04:53 AM

Quote from: MarkE on November 18, 2014, 09:16:27 AM
Dave, the MIT demonstration is of the Lorentz force. No electrons were expelled or otherwise harmed in that experiment. The Lorentz force is indeed the basis of electrodynamic machines. Which on a little side note is why those who chase BEMF free machines are chasing torque-less machines.

Lol
If no electrons are moving through the wire the magnet has no effect but if electrons are flowing in the wire the magnetic field expells the wire.
Actually the wire is pushed out of the magnetic field and over the top and pulled towards the bloch wall, try it with a lower voltage.

We use electrons to collect current but our battery is our only electron source, we have to pull electrons from another source or accelerate the electrons we have.

The buck converter shows us that current is independent of the battery, electron flow creates current flow.
This brings up the question does current flow in the wire or outside the wire,

Another interest the electron is negative but the corresponding current is pos.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 20, 2014, 01:11:18 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on November 19, 2014, 07:04:53 AM
Lol
If no electrons are moving through the wire the magnet has no effect but if electrons are flowing in the wire the magnetic field expells the wire.
Actually the wire is pushed out of the magnetic field and over the top and pulled towards the bloch wall, try it with a lower voltage.

We use electrons to collect current but our battery is our only electron source, we have to pull electrons from another source or accelerate the electrons we have.

The buck converter shows us that current is independent of the battery, electron flow creates current flow.
This brings up the question does current flow in the wire or outside the wire,

Another interest the electron is negative but the corresponding current is pos.

Dave a moving charge flux has an associated magnetic field. Electrons are but one type of charged particle. Electrical current is not an effect of electron or other charged particle movement. Current is a term that we use to describe that movement.

A buck converter is in no way independent of the battery that sources it. If you run an ideal buck converter at 50% duty cycle then whatever the load impedance is then the source sees four times that impedance. If you run the converter at 10% duty cycle, the source sees one hundred times the load impedance. If you run the converter at 90% duty cycle the source sees only 1.23 times the load impedance.

DC current flows through wires.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 21, 2014, 08:08:05 AM

Just thinking about the configuration of mag and elec fields.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 22, 2014, 03:43:54 AM

If you turn the transistor on and off quickly, it will do a spiffy job of destroying the transistor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 22, 2014, 08:09:17 AM

Quote from: MarkE on November 22, 2014, 03:43:54 AM
If you turn the transistor on and off quickly, it will do a spiffy job of destroying the transistor.

Lol Mark you crack me up.
I really like the spiffy part LoL

Its set up just like any other buck converter except for the recycle windings, tell me why it will kill the transistor and a solution.

I do enjoy your input you know a helluva lot more about electronics than me.
What do you do for a living if you dont mind I ask, I dont blame you if you dont want to answer on a public forum.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 22, 2014, 09:14:33 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on November 22, 2014, 08:09:17 AM
Lol Mark you crack me up.
I really like the spiffy part LoL

Its set up just like any other buck converter except for the recycle windings, tell me why it will kill the transistor and a solution.

I do enjoy your input you know a helluva lot more about electronics than me.
What do you do for a living if you dont mind I ask, I dont blame you if you dont want to answer on a public forum.

dave

Dave I have explained this to you before: V = L*di/dt. When you switch off a transistor that carries current coming through a coil, the voltage at the junction of the coil and the transistor swings as needed to maintain the current. When you insert another coil in series with the diode the current can only build up in that second coil as the integral of the V*T product across that second coil. So do a little math under the simplified assumption of a linear current change in the second inductor:

Coil 1 >> coil 2 100uH. Current 1A. Turn-off time of the transistor: 100ns. Parasitic capacitance = 0.

In 100ns you need a delta I in the second coil of 1A. V = L*di/T V= 100uH*1A/100nS V= 1000V.

This is only an example. To determine the real voltage swing you need to plug in the real inductance and current and transistor response.

You can make the circuit survive by:

a. Using a high enough voltage transistor to survive the inductive kick-back, or

b. You can clamp, or

c. You can snub, or

d. You can slow down the transition, or

e. You can use a combination or methods, or

f. You can fry your transistors.

People build circuits that self-destruct all the time when they switch too fast for the amount of inductance in the wiring loop that consists of: the connection from the transistor to the diode and the diode back to whatever closes the loop with the other end of the switched inductor. This may be for example in a relay or solenoid driver the other end of the coil itself, or it may be the opposite end of a power supply from that coil, in which case the inductance through the supply is an issue usually solved with capacitors.

In your case you not only have the wiring, but you are inserting a wound inductor. If the wound second inductor is a tightly coupled winding to the first inductor with the appropriate orientation, then the mutual inductances will cancel, but you will still have to deal with the leakage and wiring inductances.

What the appropriate fix is for your circuit depends entirely on what you are trying to do. I suggest to you that controlling voltage by wasting energy probably won't help with your ultimate goal.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 22, 2014, 05:18:08 PM

MarkE

Can you post a good source of information step by step how to build snubber circuit to protect mosfets/transistors from inductive kickback ? I knew that in relay coils it is usually used diode across coil terminals. Funny thing with that diode (is it called freewheeling diode?) - when I added it to my circuit current consumption from battery rised from 200mA to 4A !!! Just that is interesting....but the snubber would help really I think. Another strange issue is my IR1405 mosfet survive 80V spikes, hmm.....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lost_bro on November 22, 2014, 06:08:08 PM

Quote from: forest on November 22, 2014, 05:18:08 PM
MarkE

Can you post a good source of information step by step how to build snubber circuit to protect mosfets/transistors from inductive kickback ? I knew that in relay coils it is usually used diode across coil terminals. Funny thing with that diode (is it called freewheeling diode?) - when I added it to my circuit current consumption from battery rised from 200mA to 4A !!! Just that is interesting....but the snubber would help really I think. Another strange issue is my IR1405 mosfet survive 80V spikes, hmm.....

Hope this helps out a bit....

Take care, peace
lost_bro

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 22, 2014, 10:50:22 PM

forest and markE
You can also use an NE2 bulb between collector and emitter if your transistor can stand 100 volts.
You can use 2 ne2 bulbs in series if your transistor can take 200 volts etc, etc, etc.

Done it loads of times.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 22, 2014, 11:12:46 PM

Quote from: forest on November 22, 2014, 05:18:08 PM
MarkE

Can you post a good source of information step by step how to build snubber circuit to protect mosfets/transistors from inductive kickback ? I knew that in relay coils it is usually used diode across coil terminals. Funny thing with that diode (is it called freewheeling diode?) - when I added it to my circuit current consumption from battery rised from 200mA to 4A !!! Just that is interesting....but the snubber would help really I think. Another strange issue is my IR1405 mosfet survive 80V spikes, hmm.....

Hey Forest
200ma to 4a ? sounds as if the diode is backwards of normal snubbing and conducting forward when the transistor is on. Can you show the circuit?

Other than that, it could be the diode is keeping the load(coil, primary?) freewheeling and each time the transistor turns on, the field in the coil has not fully collapsed yet and yes, will take on more current from the transistor being that the transistor doesnt have to wait for the field to build. When the coil has max flux per input, the more current that will flow through the coil.

In some circuits, the snubber keeps the field of the coil going beyond the off time, which may not be what you want.

The snubber could be used to send the spike to a cap and that energy used for something else. ;D Just be sure to keep the cap loaded with and output(charge battery, lights, etc), if V gets close to spike peak, it wont take much more and the spike has to go elsewhere. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 22, 2014, 11:39:15 PM

Quote from: forest on November 22, 2014, 05:18:08 PM
MarkE

Can you post a good source of information step by step how to build snubber circuit to protect mosfets/transistors from inductive kickback ? I knew that in relay coils it is usually used diode across coil terminals. Funny thing with that diode (is it called freewheeling diode?) - when I added it to my circuit current consumption from battery rised from 200mA to 4A !!! Just that is interesting....but the snubber would help really I think. Another strange issue is my IR1405 mosfet survive 80V spikes, hmm.....

It sounds like you put the diode in "backwards" from the way it should go. That is, you put it in "forward biased" instead of reverse biased.
Check the data sheet for the IRF1405 mosfet and note the polarity of the body diode. Note particularly Figure 12a.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 23, 2014, 12:46:52 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 22, 2014, 10:50:22 PM
forest and markE
You can also use an NE2 bulb between collector and emitter if your transistor can stand 100 volts.
You can use 2 ne2 bulbs in series if your transistor can take 200 volts etc, etc, etc.

Done it loads of times.

That depends on how much energy that you need to clamp.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 23, 2014, 12:48:26 AM

Quote from: forest on November 22, 2014, 05:18:08 PM
MarkE

Can you post a good source of information step by step how to build snubber circuit to protect mosfets/transistors from inductive kickback ? I knew that in relay coils it is usually used diode across coil terminals. Funny thing with that diode (is it called freewheeling diode?) - when I added it to my circuit current consumption from battery rised from 200mA to 4A !!! Just that is interesting....but the snubber would help really I think. Another strange issue is my IR1405 mosfet survive 80V spikes, hmm.....

The list of application notes posted by lost_bro covers the subject fairly well. Your diode is backwards. When the MOSFET turns on the supply conducts through the diode and the MOSFET.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 23, 2014, 07:02:50 AM

Tinsel

I have EXACTLY that setup from Figure 12a except pnly one mosfet. I found that diode from schematic does nothing in my case. However when I placed diode across coil terminals directly (of course against the current flow) then current consumption rised to 4A.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 23, 2014, 07:05:55 AM

I think the answer may be the statement from datasheet : Repetitive Avalanche Allowed up to Tjmax
I had to place it on radiator and now it runs cold.
Attached actual circuit with the freewheeling diode which seems to suck current from battery (12V7Ah)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 23, 2014, 07:12:10 AM

Quote from: lost_bro on November 22, 2014, 06:08:08 PM
Hope this helps out a bit....

Take care, peace
lost_bro

Thank you lost_bro. You are my bro ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 23, 2014, 07:45:53 AM

Quote from: forest on November 23, 2014, 07:05:55 AM
I think the answer may be the statement from datasheet : Repetitive Avalanche Allowed up to Tjmax
I had to place it on radiator and now it runs cold.
Attached actual circuit with the freewheeling diode which seems to suck current from battery (12V7Ah)

If you use a crummy diode and switch too many times per second then the charge recovery from the diode will be a problem.

What is the switching frequency?

What diode are you using?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 23, 2014, 09:17:33 AM

Quote from: MarkE on November 23, 2014, 07:45:53 AM
If you use a crummy diode and switch too many times per second then the charge recovery from the diode will be a problem.

What is the switching frequency?

What diode are you using?

I'm not using diode, I only pointed that placing that diode as shown in Fig 12a in datasheet has no merit for circuit working, no change also in scopeshot. Adding freewheeling diode as I said in previous post rises current to 4A. I drive circuit with 15us pulses squarewave.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 23, 2014, 10:15:51 AM

Quote from: forest on November 23, 2014, 09:17:33 AM

I'm not using diode, I only pointed that placing that diode as shown in Fig 12a in datasheet has no merit for circuit working, no change also in scopeshot. Adding freewheeling diode as I said in previous post rises current to 4A. I drive circuit with 15us pulses squarewave.

The diode in Fig 12A protects the right hand MOSFET. No right hand MOSFET means that the diode doesn't do anything.

If you have a good diode correctly oriented then it recirculates the current around the coil when the MOSFET is off. If you have a crummy diode then it will suffer lots of shoot though current when the MOSFET turns on. If the diode is backwards it will conduct straight into the MOSFET when the MOSFET turns on. Most simple relay and solenoid drivers use a clamp diode without any trouble at all. Your experience getting a high current means something is not as you describe it. You've got a junk diode, or its wired backwards from the way you think, or your diode is blown, or you are operating it past its breakdown voltage.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 23, 2014, 11:06:55 AM

Quote from: forest on November 23, 2014, 07:05:55 AM
I think the answer may be the statement from datasheet : Repetitive Avalanche Allowed up to Tjmax
I had to place it on radiator and now it runs cold.
Attached actual circuit with the freewheeling diode which seems to suck current from battery (12V7Ah)

Like I said earlier, maybe not clear enough, its possible that the on/off timing is too fast for the coil used. Like if you dont use the diode, the coils collapse happens quick and the coil is settled down and ready for the next on cycle. But, with the diode, the coil holds its field longer, and possibly long enough that the field never really dies out, considering 15us sq input.

So without the diode, coil field at 0, then transistor goes 'on' and initially, the impedance of the inductance limits the current. So its possible that the diode is keeping the coil freewheeling and the impedance of the coil remains low because the field is continuously there due to freewheeling. So the coil passes 4A every 30us for 15us.

Soo, maybe the coil inductance is too high for the freq used. 15us, the coil should be pretty fast reacting. Lower inductance and retry. ;)

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 23, 2014, 11:18:45 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 23, 2014, 11:06:55 AM
Like I said earlier, maybe not clear enough, its possible that the on/off timing is too fast for the coil used. Like if you dont use the diode, the coils collapse happens quick and the coil is settled down and ready for the next on cycle. But, with the diode, the coil holds its field longer, and possibly long enough that the field never really dies out, considering 15us sq input.

So without the diode, coil field at 0, then transistor goes 'on' and initially, the impedance of the inductance limits the current. So its possible that the diode is keeping the coil freewheeling and the impedance of the coil remains low because the field is continuously there due to freewheeling. So the coil passes 4A every 30us for 15us.

Soo, maybe the coil inductance is too high for the freq used. 15us, the coil should be pretty fast reacting. Lower inductance and retry. ;)

mags

If the operating frequency is high enough to sustain continuous conduction in the coil, then with the diode in place the current scales with the duty cycle. This is easy to test: Alter the duty cycle. If the on time is fixed, just drop the repetition rate to one fourth and see if the current falls to 1/4th or less.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 23, 2014, 01:34:47 PM

Quote from: MarkE on November 23, 2014, 11:18:45 AM
If the operating frequency is high enough to sustain continuous conduction in the coil, then with the diode in place the current scales with the duty cycle. This is easy to test: Alter the duty cycle. If the on time is fixed, just drop the repetition rate to one fourth and see if the current falls to 1/4th or less.

Or, lower the freq and reduce the on time duty cycle to 15us, if 15us is what is required as a pulse. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 23, 2014, 01:42:00 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 23, 2014, 01:34:47 PM
Or, lower the freq and reduce the on time duty cycle to 15us, if 15us is what is required as a pulse. ;)

Mags

15us is quite a short time period. Adding the diode may increase the on time beyond 15us. There may be a resistor of a particular value that may suffice instead of the diode. The higher the resistance, the quicker the field drop, where the diode would provide a longer collapse similar to a very low ohm resistance. Could add the resistor in series with the diode to reduce the collapse time. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 23, 2014, 02:13:04 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 23, 2014, 01:42:00 PM
15us is quite a short time period. Adding the diode may increase the on time beyond 15us. There may be a resistor of a particular value that may suffice instead of the diode. The higher the resistance, the quicker the field drop, where the diode would provide a longer collapse similar to a very low ohm resistance. Could add the resistor in series with the diode to reduce the collapse time. ;D

Mags

Whether 15us is short or long depends on the components used.

He stated 15us as his pulse width. He did not mention his repetition rate. If the L/R time constant of his coil is longer than his repetition interval then current will build up cycle to cycle until it equalizes the V*T product of the on pulse with the V*T product of the off time. The former is the product of almost the supply voltage and the 15us. The latter is the sum of the diode drop and I*R drop (which changes as the current decays ) in the coil multiplied by the off time. So if that is what is going on, then all he has to do is slow down his repetition rate. When a switching power supply detects over current they often "hiccup", that is drop their operating frequency to limit the current build-up.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 23, 2014, 04:54:41 PM

Ok, some more info on coil. Inductance is 335uH, resistance of circuit is mostly on this coil and I can measure it only approximately to be 0.3 ohm , (plush resistance of mosfet only 5 mohm as stated in datasheet). I cannot attach scopeshot as I have very very old analog one, but without any snubber it is a not much distorted square wave but with additional 60-70V peak when mosfet is turned off, gradually dimisnishind to around 12V or the voltage of the power supply (which is SLA battery 12V/7Ah)
I think such super simple circuit has nice potential for testing so called BEMF (or kickback pulse rather).
More later...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 23, 2014, 08:58:34 PM

Quote from: forest on November 23, 2014, 04:54:41 PM
Ok, some more info on coil. Inductance is 335uH, resistance of circuit is mostly on this coil and I can measure it only approximately to be 0.3 ohm , (plush resistance of mosfet only 5 mohm as stated in datasheet). I cannot attach scopeshot as I have very very old analog one, but without any snubber it is a not much distorted square wave but with additional 60-70V peak when mosfet is turned off, gradually dimisnishind to around 12V or the voltage of the power supply (which is SLA battery 12V/7Ah)
I think such super simple circuit has nice potential for testing so called BEMF (or kickback pulse rather).
More later...

.3ohm(approximately. possibly lower or a bit higher) 12v in. Even at 50% duty cycle could draw nearly 20A(near 40a with constant 12v).

This is why I had leaned toward the function of the diode and coil freewheeling causing 4A instead of the diode being reversed, and now as it shows, I leaned 'right'. ;)

Forest, is there a reason for the 15us? Is that what the secondary reacts to best(resonant?) ? That was the reason why I suggested lower freq, like half or 1/4 the original freq and adjust the on duty cycle to 15u, where the longer off time possibly gives the coil more time to collapse before the next turn on. But if the sec is still ringing, it could induce the primary to produce ac currents, more likely not 70 to 90v as there should not be spikes after the primary produces a spike when the trans is turned off till the next turn off.

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 23, 2014, 09:13:13 PM

Quote from: forest on November 23, 2014, 04:54:41 PM
Ok, some more info on coil. Inductance is 335uH, resistance of circuit is mostly on this coil and I can measure it only approximately to be 0.3 ohm , (plush resistance of mosfet only 5 mohm as stated in datasheet). I cannot attach scopeshot as I have very very old analog one, but without any snubber it is a not much distorted square wave but with additional 60-70V peak when mosfet is turned off, gradually dimisnishind to around 12V or the voltage of the power supply (which is SLA battery 12V/7Ah)
I think such super simple circuit has nice potential for testing so called BEMF (or kickback pulse rather).
More later...

You are driving this thing with 15us pulses, but at what repetition rate? From the schematic you have shown so far you pump energy into the coil that has nowhere to go.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 23, 2014, 09:19:00 PM

True. He did say 15us pulses square wave, and that doesnt mean 50% duty cycles necessarily.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 23, 2014, 09:49:52 PM

If you have a camera you can easily make a very acceptable scopeshot of your old old analog scope. I do it all the time with my Tek 2213a and HP180a scopes. Annotations can be added with a simple graphics editor like my favorite mtPaint. It might take a few practice shots before you get your exposure set properly for the job, but it's very valuable to be able to do it. I usually use my Canon DSLR in manual mode, no flash, 1/30 or 1/15 sec, f/5.6, ISO800. You could probably also get an acceptable shot with a cellphone camera, although I haven't tried it yet.

I still haven't seen the part number of the diode in question. It can make a huge difference. The diode could be leaky, blown completely, too slow to be of much benefit, or simply in backwards.

The diode should be a high current, ultrafast type. I use MUR1560 (600V, 15A, 55 ns) for rectification in my wireless system receivers which operate at around 800 kHz or a period of around 1.25 microseconds. My electromagnetic levitator performance was greatly increased by using a RL3A type from an old TV chassis, 50 ns recovery, 400 V 3A.
You could try something like UF4007 (1 kV 1A 75 ns) or the similar BYV26E but that would be kind of underrated for the task, I think. The FR60x series are readily available but not really "ultrafast", with recovery times of 150-500 ns. Still, I've used them with success in slower circuits like bipolar transistor-based coil drivers.
The recent coildrivers I've made use MUR480ES also from old CRT monitor chassis (very good, 800V 4A 75 ns) or BYV26E (barely adequate but working OK).

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 23, 2014, 10:03:40 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 23, 2014, 08:58:34 PM
.3ohm(approximately. possibly lower or a bit higher) 12v in. Even at 50% duty cycle could draw nearly 20A(near 40a with constant 12v).

This is why I had leaned toward the function of the diode and coil freewheeling causing 4A instead of the diode being reversed, and now as it shows, I leaned 'right'. ;)

(snip)
mags

Yes, if the schematic is what he's using and shows the diode in correctly, then it's a matter of the diode's speed I think.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 23, 2014, 11:17:44 PM

Probably forest is just pumping up his inductor. For any given frequency and duty cycle the integral of V*dt across the coil when the MOSFET is on, (red) increases the current through the inductor while the integral of V*dt across the coil when the MOSFET is off, (blue) decreases the current through the inductor. With a linear inductor, when the two areas are equal, the current stabilizes.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 24, 2014, 04:08:45 AM

Quote from: MarkE on November 23, 2014, 11:17:44 PM
Probably forest is just pumping up his inductor. For any given frequency and duty cycle the integral of V*dt across the coil when the MOSFET is on, (red) increases the current through the inductor while the integral of V*dt across the coil when the MOSFET is off, (blue) decreases the current through the inductor. With a linear inductor, when the two areas are equal, the current stabilizes.

Thank You MarkE. Yes it seems that I'm pumping my coil with sharp pulses with exactly that circuit, minus diode . I don't use diode currently, I only pointed that WITH diode placed as that last picture, I got 4Amps from my small battery, while (which is surprising !) it takes continuously only 0.2 or slightly more (0.24A) with this circuit. It is anomaly and I'm now just pretty sure it is due to this excellent mosfet avalanche mode .
Well,if you think about it more , and how many inventors talked about superiority of mechanical switch, I think this avalanche mode works very close to it. Unfortunately I must go now but when I return I will try to get scopeshots, I wish I could have digital scope to take exactly synchronized waves from driver output and from circuit after the coil, which will prove me wrong or right. All I can do now is to turn on some ugle "A+B channel" mode on my 10Mhz analog 2 channels scope, because displaying alternate channels do not guarantee synchronization. Maybe it's all just my mistake and mosfet has much more resistance then stated in datasheet (maybe is damaged right now) , because what is astonishing is the minimal current consumption. I computed that in best mode it should take 0.5Amps at 15us time due to L/R constant.

Some detailed explanations : 15us, because I use own made circuit, which was used for other purpose and which is Attiny45 based board with 16Mhz crystal oscillator. So I programmed it as CTC mode square wave 50% duty cycle and I have to set timing. It is set to 239 cycles of 62.5ns or roughly 15us/50% duty cycle, very stable output . I don't know but this stable output may also help a bit .

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 24, 2014, 05:37:09 AM

Quote from: forest on November 24, 2014, 04:08:45 AM

Thank You MarkE. Yes it seems that I'm pumping my coil with sharp pulses with exactly that circuit, minus diode . I don't use diode currently, I only pointed that WITH diode placed as that last picture, I got 4Amps from my small battery, while (which is surprising !) it takes continuously only 0.2 or slightly more (0.24A) with this circuit. It is anomaly and I'm now just pretty sure it is due to this excellent mosfet avalanche mode .
Well,if you think about it more , and how many inventors talked about superiority of mechanical switch, I think this avalanche mode works very close to it. Unfortunately I must go now but when I return I will try to get scopeshots, I wish I could have digital scope to take exactly synchronized waves from driver output and from circuit after the coil, which will prove me wrong or right. All I can do now is to turn on some ugle "A+B channel" mode on my 10Mhz analog 2 channels scope, because displaying alternate channels do not guarantee synchronization. Maybe it's all just my mistake and mosfet has much more resistance then stated in datasheet (maybe is damaged right now) , because what is astonishing is the minimal current consumption. I computed that in best mode it should take 0.5Amps at 15us time due to L/R constant.

Some detailed explanations : 15us, because I use own made circuit, which was used for other purpose and which is Attiny45 based board with 16Mhz crystal oscillator. So I programmed it as CTC mode square wave 50% duty cycle and I have to set timing. It is set to 239 cycles of 62.5ns or roughly 15us/50% duty cycle, very stable output . I don't know but this stable output may also help a bit .

It's been awhile since I had to wrestle with analog scopes. If you trigger on the output you are using for the gate drive, then whether you use chopped or alternate sweep you should get clean results for a constant frequency drive. Don't use separate A and B triggers.

When the recirculation diode is in place the current decay cycle to cycle is less and it takes more current and I*R loss to make the blue area under the curve match the red area above the curve. As it is the circuit doesn't do anything other than heat up parts in the circuit. If the coil were acting as the armature magnet in a relay or the winding in a solenoid, then mechanical work would get done, the current attack rate would be slower and/or the decay rate would be faster and you wouldn't have such a severe difference in power consumption with and without the diode. The kind of diode also matters. A Schottky or at least ultrafast makes a big difference above a couple of kHz compared to an ordinary 1N400x diode.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on November 24, 2014, 04:51:58 PM

Please keep focused on the topic ....
It´s simpler ....

Zd

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 24, 2014, 05:35:41 PM

@forest: The suspense is killing me! Would you _please_ tell us the part number of the diode you were using that gave you the 4 amp current draw? And also if you tell us the type/brand of your analog oscilloscope we may be able to help you get the information you need from it.

Here is my levitator system, that uses the _exact same_ circuit on the coil-driver side, controlled by a microprocessor (arduino) that is sensing position by a photoresistor (or phototransistor) detecting a shadow edge and driving the coil in response. The performance of the circuit was much improved (greater stable levitation distance, much less audible noise, much cooler mosfet) by the addition of the ultrafast high-current diode as shown in MarkE's diagram.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkiGTWODERo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkiGTWODERo)

@Zd: making proper measurements, being able to communicate and share those measurements, and discussing the use of well-known techniques to improve performance of commonly used systems, is NOT off-topic. Sorry that it isn't simple enough for you, but there it is.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 25, 2014, 08:28:26 AM

Tinsel

Diode was FES16JT . Later I used HFA08PB60.Little more better. I created a snubber with 10uf/400V cap and this diode , with additional neon and transil diode in case of too much voltage ;-). I ended up with just 72V of collected energy from kickback. It need just a little improvement. Thanks to MarkE, we now know the important factor - impulse time must be shorter then L/R constant if you work with this kind of circuit (or flyback,push-pull etc). trust me, it was valuable tip ! I still have to find why it is important. I knew those time constants are CRUCIAL in every resonant overunity devices. :-)
My scope is old polish brand Kabid DT-525a. What I need to know is how to set trigger so both channel would be synchronized in time, so I could see both signals (not just a A-B mode) and find if there is a correlation between one signal going down and other up or something like that...

I'm now in other town til the end of the week :(

P.S. Besides, I feel that my talk is useless, seems there are silent watchers there who knew exactly where this is going to...but time is progressing fast and something need to be changed before we destroy environment and rise global temperature 4C above current level...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 25, 2014, 09:08:11 AM

Your diodes are plenty fast. The issue is that you are pumping up the inductor. What is your intention? Where do you want to deliver power?

If you want to see both channels relative to one channel, let's assume ch. 1, then trigger on ch. 1 only. If you sweep in chopped mode you will see both waveforms but will be frequency limited by the chopping rate. If you use alternate sweep, then you will see one channel on one triggered event and the other channel on the next. This should not be a problem for this type of circuit. The last tip I can offer is make sure that you are using the Normal trigger mode. Do not use the auto trigger mode.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 25, 2014, 11:30:58 AM

Yes, I agree, those diodes are great, better than any I have in my junkboxes. The issue then is the duty cycle of the signal, as MarkE illustrates. If you are trying to capture the inductive collapse spike produced when the coil current is shut off by the mosfet, into a capacitor instead of recirculating it, then you should use a shorter duty cycle, and this should be easy to arrange with a little change in your programming of the controller.

ETA: and of course if you are using a parallel-connected neon to limit the cap voltage... the voltage will be limited to the neon's turnoff threshold which, for NE-2 is going to be just about what you reported!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 25, 2014, 11:43:17 AM

I think your scope has an external trigger input. This is what you should be using if you want good time synchronization between the A and B channels, and use "ALT" mode for the "System Y". Use the gate signal from the microprocessor, (or another output of the MCU that is synchronized with the signal fed to the mosfet gate) fed to the external trigger input of the scope. Top right BNC jack in the photo, if I am understanding the layout correctly. I also found the Service Manual but it's in Polish of course and I can't read it.

http://elektrotanya.com/kabid_dt-525a_oscilloscope_sm.zip/download.html (http://elektrotanya.com/kabid_dt-525a_oscilloscope_sm.zip/download.html)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on November 25, 2014, 01:00:15 PM

@Zd: making proper measurements, being able to communicate and share those measurements, and discussing the use of well-known techniques to improve performance of commonly used systems, is NOT off-topic. Sorry that it isn't simple enough for you, but there it is.

I´m sharing....energy amplification...sorry for my english...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFDVCm-pxKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oyrzLmyxeQ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 25, 2014, 01:05:45 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 25, 2014, 11:43:17 AM
I think your scope has an external trigger input. This is what you should be using if you want good time synchronization between the A and B channels, and use "ALT" mode for the "System Y". Use the gate signal from the microprocessor, (or another output of the MCU that is synchronized with the signal fed to the mosfet gate) fed to the external trigger input of the scope. Top right BNC jack in the photo, if I am understanding the layout correctly. I also found the Service Manual but it's in Polish of course and I can't read it.

http://elektrotanya.com/kabid_dt-525a_oscilloscope_sm.zip/download.html (http://elektrotanya.com/kabid_dt-525a_oscilloscope_sm.zip/download.html)

I think forest is probalby using alternate sweep and auto trigger. Set the trigger to normal and things should work fine.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 25, 2014, 01:16:24 PM

Quote from: zdiblo on November 25, 2014, 01:00:15 PM
@Zd: making proper measurements, being able to communicate and share those measurements, and discussing the use of well-known techniques to improve performance of commonly used systems, is NOT off-topic. Sorry that it isn't simple enough for you, but there it is.

I´m sharing....energy amplification...sorry for my english...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFDVCm-pxKw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFDVCm-pxKw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oyrzLmyxeQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oyrzLmyxeQ)

There is nothing wrong with your English. But you must know that voltage is not energy, power is not energy, and there is a huge difference between peak power and average power, no matter the language used. The claim in the second video that "there is no way that the power from the wall gets into the ignition coil" is simply a baldfaced lie: All the power being shown in the output of the coil does indeed come from the source: the mains power connection. In addition, it appears to me that the coil is incorrectly connected for the "weak spark" and becomes correctly connected for the enhanced spark. I'm not sure about this, though; is there a complete and honest schematic somewhere that I may inspect?

Now look at this, running on a 24 volt battery supply, NOT a wall socket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9KVTJQsnE4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9KVTJQsnE4)

(Of course the power used to charge the battery in the first place did come from the wall socket.)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 25, 2014, 01:17:54 PM

Quote from: MarkE on November 25, 2014, 01:05:45 PM
I think forest is probalby using alternate sweep and auto trigger. Set the trigger to normal and things should work fine.

Use the external trigger, directly from the clock, and there will be no doubt. Oscilloscopes incorporate that feature for a reason, it's not just for show or to pump up the cost.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on November 25, 2014, 01:51:38 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 25, 2014, 01:16:24 PM
There is nothing wrong with your English. But you must know that voltage is not energy, power is not energy, and there is a huge difference between peak power and average power, no matter the language used. The claim in the second video that "there is no way that the power from the wall gets into the ignition coil" is simply a baldfaced lie: All the power being shown in the output of the coil does indeed come from the source: the mains power connection. In addition, it appears to me that the coil is incorrectly connected for the "weak spark" and becomes correctly connected for the enhanced spark. I'm not sure about this, though; is there a complete and honest schematic somewhere that I may inspect?

Now look at this, running on a 24 volt battery supply, NOT a wall socket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9KVTJQsnE4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9KVTJQsnE4)

(Of course the power used to charge the battery in the first place did come from the wall socket.)

Thanks for clarifying me and forgive me for intruding, I am not an expert in electronics like you, I am simply someone who would like to discover something in this area for pleasure and own satisfaction.
Can you please tell me if you already got an OU unit?
all the best ...

http://www.esmhome.org/library/aaron-murakami/radiantwatersparkplug.jpg

http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/olderfiles/6/FREE_ENERGY_8.jpg

or

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-r9LBLk0Lwn4/TjaUt6ao9jI/AAAAAAAAAFg/4zcJz7J_beo/s1600/schematic.GIF

I´m just a newbie.....sorry....I think no one post the real schematics on the web....

Zd

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 25, 2014, 03:39:21 PM

Quote from: zdiblo on November 25, 2014, 01:51:38 PM

Thanks for clarifying me and forgive me for intruding, I am not an expert in electronics like you, I am simply someone who would like to discover something in this area for pleasure and own satisfaction.
Can you please tell me if you already got an OU unit?
all the best ...

http://www.esmhome.org/library/aaron-murakami/radiantwatersparkplug.jpg (http://www.esmhome.org/library/aaron-murakami/radiantwatersparkplug.jpg)

http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/olderfiles/6/FREE_ENERGY_8.jpg (http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/olderfiles/6/FREE_ENERGY_8.jpg)

or

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-r9LBLk0Lwn4/TjaUt6ao9jI/AAAAAAAAAFg/4zcJz7J_beo/s1600/schematic.GIF (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-r9LBLk0Lwn4/TjaUt6ao9jI/AAAAAAAAAFg/4zcJz7J_beo/s1600/schematic.GIF)

I´m just a newbie.....sorry....I think no one post the real schematics on the web....

Zd

There is no need to apologize, you are not "intruding" and I am not an expert in electronics. I think that title belongs to MarkE and perhaps several others, not me, but I am expert in other important areas that affect these discussions. I can tell you, however, that I certainly do know more about _actual_ electronics than those presenters in those videos. I have been dealing in particular with the false claims and ignorance and outright lies of Aaron Murakami in particular for over five years. I had to educate him in the basic use of his oscilloscope, in the relationship between mosfet gate signal and drain voltage, in the functioning of 555 timer circuits, in making power measurements in pulsed circuits, and even in the operation and testing of his _own_ circuits, and more, years ago. Just look at my YT channel and search for videos containing "Aaron" and "Ainslie" as keywords.

What these claimants call "radiant" is nothing more than high frequency, high voltage electrodynamics, often produced by inductive collapse effects from rapidly interrupting the current to an inductor. There is no mystery about this. Every time you listen to a radio you are detecting, converting and using the same kind of "radiant" energy... and that's why it's called a "radio". The presenters in those linked videos and many others prefer to relabel ordinary things and cloak them with an air of mystery because they themselves do not understand what they are doing, but are attempting to stuff observed phenomena into their own dearly-held "theoretical" belief systems.

As far as I can tell, what is being demonstrated in those videos is nothing more than a kludged-together capacitive discharge ignition system, with a couple of different choices of total capacitance being discharged into the coil primary. It is "disingenuous" in the extreme for them to claim that the relay prevents power from the wall socket from reaching the primary, when in fact all the power to charge the capacitors is coming from the wall socket and the relay simply switches between operating modes. The first image that you link, from Err-on himself, illustrates the very most basic capacitive discharge ignition system. The more energy stored in the capacitor, the more energy in the resulting spark. People have been using cap discharge ignition systems to increase the performance of their automobiles for many years. If you think adding a bit of water to the spark plug makes an interesting effect... try adding the same amount of gasoline instead of water!

A plasma is created by the spark. Big deal, call the Nobel Committee right away. Adding some water mist does several things, and it is true that the intense spark can dissociate the water molecules and create the gases, which then recombine right away, causing various color effects in the plasma and even mechanical shockwaves. It is not true that this process liberates any excess energy. I know this because I spent literally years of fulltime work, even getting paid, to assist Peter Graneau with his water-arc energy liberation experiments, and I have explored just about every configuration of electrodes, water, high voltage plasmas and means of extracting energy from same that several really creative and smart people could think of. Much of this work is actually published in real, peer-reviewed scientific literature, some of it under PG's authorship and some making false claims that were later retracted by other co-authors when they were determined to be indeed false.

I must apologize to _you_ for this rant. Every time I see Aaron and his cohorts misrepresenting their effects and misleading people as to the causes, I get a little "hot" myself. And to answer your question... no, I have never seen a reliable demonstration of any excess energy produced by anyone with any apparatus. I have seen and investigated many claims of such, and it is very common to see people claiming "OU" for systems that have high _peak_ power outputs for small _average_ power inputs, or that produce high levels of unusable, illusory reactive "power" or rather Volt-Amps-Reactive or VARs. But power is not energy and peak power amplification is not hard to achieve, and reactive "power" is not usable for anything other than painting pretty pictures on oscilloscopes, and fooling people into donating money to scammers (see the QEG thread).

Some more things for your amusement and consideration:
Effect of added _output_ capacitance on a high voltage "radiant" plasma system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XRwlNCF1PU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XRwlNCF1PU)

A 24 volt input, hybrid SS-SG Tesla coil producing a _lot_ of "radiant" and a lot of peak power (white marks on the black ruler are in inches):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZClhoU2Xk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZClhoU2Xk)

A water-drop triggered, very high voltage capacitive discharge system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aGIcIgtrLk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aGIcIgtrLk)

And the photo below shows a field map of the "radiant" field emitted by a pure, Class E solid state Tesla coil operating at less than 75 watts input:

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on November 25, 2014, 04:31:00 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 25, 2014, 03:39:21 PM
There is no need to apologize, you are not "intruding" and I am not an expert in electronics. I think that title belongs to MarkE and perhaps several others, not me, but I am expert in other important areas that affect these discussions. I can tell you, however, that I certainly do know more about _actual_ electronics than those presenters in those videos. I have been dealing in particular with the false claims and ignorance and outright lies of Aaron Murakami in particular for over five years. I had to educate him in the basic use of his oscilloscope, in the relationship between mosfet gate signal and drain voltage, in the functioning of 555 timer circuits, in making power measurements in pulsed circuits, and even in the operation and testing of his _own_ circuits, and more, years ago. Just look at my YT channel and search for videos containing "Aaron" and "Ainslie" as keywords.

What these claimants call "radiant" is nothing more than high frequency, high voltage electrodynamics, often produced by inductive collapse effects from rapidly interrupting the current to an inductor. There is no mystery about this. Every time you listen to a radio you are detecting, converting and using the same kind of "radiant" energy... and that's why it's called a "radio". The presenters in those linked videos and many others prefer to relabel ordinary things and cloak them with an air of mystery because they themselves do not understand what they are doing, but are attempting to stuff observed phenomena into their own dearly-held "theoretical" belief systems.

As far as I can tell, what is being demonstrated in those videos is nothing more than a kludged-together capacitive discharge ignition system, with a couple of different choices of total capacitance being discharged into the coil primary. It is "disingenuous" in the extreme for them to claim that the relay prevents power from the wall socket from reaching the primary, when in fact all the power to charge the capacitors is coming from the wall socket and the relay simply switches between operating modes. The first image that you link, from Err-on himself, illustrates the very most basic capacitive discharge ignition system. The more energy stored in the capacitor, the more energy in the resulting spark. People have been using cap discharge ignition systems to increase the performance of their automobiles for many years. If you think adding a bit of water to the spark plug makes an interesting effect... try adding the same amount of gasoline instead of water!

A plasma is created by the spark. Big deal, call the Nobel Committee right away. Adding some water mist does several things, and it is true that the intense spark can dissociate the water molecules and create the gases, which then recombine right away, causing various color effects in the plasma and even mechanical shockwaves. It is not true that this process liberates any excess energy. I know this because I spent literally years of fulltime work, even getting paid, to assist Peter Graneau with his water-arc energy liberation experiments, and I have explored just about every configuration of electrodes, water, high voltage plasmas and means of extracting energy from same that several really creative and smart people could think of. Much of this work is actually published in real, peer-reviewed scientific literature, some of it under PG's authorship and some making false claims that were later retracted by other co-authors when they were determined to be indeed false.

I must apologize to _you_ for this rant. Every time I see Aaron and his cohorts misrepresenting their effects and misleading people as to the causes, I get a little "hot" myself. And to answer your question... no, I have never seen a reliable demonstration of any excess energy produced by anyone with any apparatus. I have seen and investigated many claims of such, and it is very common to see people claiming "OU" for systems that have high _peak_ power outputs for small _average_ power inputs, or that produce high levels of unusable, illusory reactive "power" or rather Volt-Amps-Reactive or VARs. But power is not energy and peak power amplification is not hard to achieve, and reactive "power" is not usable for anything other than painting pretty pictures on oscilloscopes, and fooling people into donating money to scammers (see the QEG thread).

Some more things for your amusement and consideration:
Effect of added _output_ capacitance on a high voltage "radiant" plasma system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XRwlNCF1PU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XRwlNCF1PU)

A 24 volt input, hybrid SS-SG Tesla coil producing a _lot_ of "radiant" and a lot of peak power (white marks on the black ruler are in inches):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZClhoU2Xk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZClhoU2Xk)

A water-drop triggered, very high voltage capacitive discharge system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aGIcIgtrLk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aGIcIgtrLk)

And the photo below shows a field map of the "radiant" field emitted by a pure, Class E solid state Tesla coil operating at less than 75 watts input:

Thanks for your informative explanation, case closed ...
Again, thank you for sharing your wisdom, I'm learning ... and I will not talk about it anymore because I am a little man from a small country and do not know anything about this ...my MISSION is completed...
Sorry to disturb you again.
My best regards.

Zd

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 25, 2014, 04:42:16 PM

TinselKoala,MarkE

I'm using trigger on channel A with Auto trigger. I don't understand what Normal trigger mode can do, mostly it looks the same as Auto one.And yes, I'm using ALT view to see both signals from Channel A and B so I can scroll one of them to bu upper and one lower and compare. I wish you know what I mean.So, should I change to Normal triggering mode and trigger only on channel A with scope connected to the output of microcontroller and scope on channel B connected to the coil end near the Source of mosfet ? Is that correct ?

P.S. Tinsel, Wow! Don't you think you react too emotionally ? Aaron is maybe a sneaky pal trying to get attention but this experiment with car coil is really cool and has a secret hidden ,maybe ::)
Do you REALLY wish to "fight to death" defending current scientific dogma
, even if the change is right behind the corner ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-NhDeNGh7M&list=UUZjwwSkok_CxM1zRFx2EBLg&index=9

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on November 25, 2014, 04:56:38 PM

Quote from: zdiblo on November 25, 2014, 04:31:00 PM

Thanks for your informative explanation, case closed ...
Again, thank you for sharing your wisdom, I'm learning ... and I will not talk about it anymore because I am a little man from a small country and do not know anything about this ...
Sorry to disturb you again.
My best regards.

Zd

Was following the post and I was curious how much truth and wisdom could be found at forum of this kind.
We must always listen to the opinions of others, and we must know how to take the best of those opinions but do not mean that to be the most certain.

Surely there will be some people who have devoted a great deal of his time to this type of work and is only by bigotry :) as Aaron? I think not ....
The effect that Aaron demonstrated that it was not so basic as described herein.
This same effect contrary to what has been said, can be played without the use of power grid and with only with only 12V.

This just to see fit that there are no absolute truths and that laws were created by men in order to be convenient.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfxEAQNOjp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf_qUlwSZl0

I think I'm one of the people that Tim mentioned as part of the people who do not know what they are doing.

But after solemn speech I even feel more comforted by what I do.

Lots of luck to you in your investigations and your decisions

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 25, 2014, 05:14:39 PM

Nelson
Counting on your amps usage maybe also using 9V battery ;) but I understand you may have no reason to use it ::) and took negative comments.
It remains me some effect of an arrow when it sharply pierce into the hard wood.The arrow movement is abruptly stopped yet still there is energy flow which cannot dissipate and return back and form kind of very fast oscillations of the end part of arrow beatting against the air...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 25, 2014, 06:17:17 PM

Quote from: forest on November 25, 2014, 04:42:16 PM
TinselKoala,MarkE

I'm using trigger on channel A with Auto trigger. I don't understand what Normal trigger mode can do, mostly it looks the same as Auto one.And yes, I'm using ALT view to see both signals from Channel A and B so I can scroll one of them to bu upper and one lower and compare. I wish you know what I mean.So, should I change to Normal triggering mode and trigger only on channel A with scope connected to the output of microcontroller and scope on channel B connected to the coil end near the Source of mosfet ? Is that correct ?

P.S. Tinsel, Wow! Don't you think you react too emotionally ? Aaron is maybe a sneaky pal trying to get attention but this experiment with car coil is really cool and has a secret hidden ,maybe ::)
Do you REALLY wish to "fight to death" defending current scientific dogma
, even if the change is right behind the corner ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-NhDeNGh7M&list=UUZjwwSkok_CxM1zRFx2EBLg&index=9

Forest, the difference between auto and normal triggering modes is that the auto mode triggers whether or not the signal meets the trigger criteria. What you want the oscilloscope to do is paint each the A and B traces with the same timing relationship to some reference event. In order to establish that relationship, you need to trigger against a signal that has as close to a constant relationship to both signals as possible. Normal trigger mode fires if and only if the trigger signal meets the criteria set-up by the trigger controls: source, rising or falling edge, coupling and level. The shorter the rise or fall time of your reference timing signal the less uncertainty there will be in the trigger. If you have a logic signal that has a cleaner rectangle waveform than both your A and B signals, then as TK suggests, connecting that signal to your external trigger input promises to give you the most stable timing. If either the A or B signal has a clean signal with rise or fall time that is as good as or close to that of the most pristine signal that you have then you can use that channel: A or B as your trigger source and the timing stability will be similar to what you can get using the external trigger input.

Auto trigger mode can give you a lot of trouble, particularly in alternate sweep mode because any given trigger can be either from the reference event or the oscilloscope's internal free running trigger.

So, start by triggering on the cleaner of your two waveforms in normal mode with DC trigger coupling. You will have to adjust the trigger level until you get a stable waveform. Do that for the A channel only. When the display is stable, then you can turn the B channel on using either chopped or alternate sweep. If you have stability issues due to a slowly changing or non-monotonic signal then use a third signal such as TK has suggested as an input to the oscilloscope's external trigger, select the external trigger as the trigger source and get channel A stabilized as before. Then turn on the B channel.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 25, 2014, 06:23:25 PM

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on November 25, 2014, 04:56:38 PM
Was following the post and I was curious how much truth and wisdom could be found at forum of this kind.
We must always listen to the opinions of others, and we must know how to take the best of those opinions but do not mean that to be the most certain.

Surely there will be some people who have devoted a great deal of his time to this type of work and is only by bigotry :) as Aaron? I think not ....
The effect that Aaron demonstrated that it was not so basic as described herein.
This same effect contrary to what has been said, can be played without the use of power grid and with only with only 12V.

This just to see fit that there are no absolute truths and that laws were created by men in order to be convenient.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfxEAQNOjp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf_qUlwSZl0

I think I'm one of the people that Tim mentioned as part of the people who do not know what they are doing.

But after solemn speech I even feel more comforted by what I do.

Lots of luck to you in your investigations and your decisions

Nelson, reliable data always tells the story. 90%, or maybe as much as 99% of the battle is getting reliable data. Aaron has in the past been difficult because he resisted both explanation of obvious errors he was making and also to perform tests of his own to validate his beliefs a number of which TK proved were false.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 25, 2014, 11:56:15 PM

Quote from: forest on November 25, 2014, 04:42:16 PM
TinselKoala,MarkE

I'm using trigger on channel A with Auto trigger. I don't understand what Normal trigger mode can do, mostly it looks the same as Auto one.And yes, I'm using ALT view to see both signals from Channel A and B so I can scroll one of them to bu upper and one lower and compare. I wish you know what I mean.So, should I change to Normal triggering mode and trigger only on channel A with scope connected to the output of microcontroller and scope on channel B connected to the coil end near the Source of mosfet ? Is that correct ?

P.S. Tinsel, Wow! Don't you think you react too emotionally ? Aaron is maybe a sneaky pal trying to get attention but this experiment with car coil is really cool and has a secret hidden ,maybe ::)
Do you REALLY wish to "fight to death" defending current scientific dogma
, even if the change is right behind the corner ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-NhDeNGh7M&list=UUZjwwSkok_CxM1zRFx2EBLg&index=9 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-NhDeNGh7M&list=UUZjwwSkok_CxM1zRFx2EBLg&index=9)

If you don't want to take my advice about using the external trigger capability of your scope that is of course entirely up to you. It's funny that you seem reluctant even to try it, though.

Generally, "Normal" trigger mode blanks the trace(s) when no signal that exceeds the manually set trigger voltage level is detected by the scope, so the screen goes dark. "Auto" trigger mode overrides this and will generally display the trace(s) regardless of sensed voltage, so you can display a flat line if you like or let the scope trigger on whatever p-p voltage it sees without you having to fiddle with the manual trigger level setting. You're welcome.

You have no idea about my history with Aaron Murakami, do you. Even though I have given you some references and I can back up everything I say, including the fact that he lied about me, about the Ainslie circuit and about his own "contributions" to that story. That's fine too, you can believe whatever you want to believe, and waste your time however you want to waste it.
We went around and around about the relationship between the Ainslie published 555 timer circuit and its duty cycle and the mosfet's response, Aaron accused me of errors and even fakery, and eventually he resorted to having to change many parts of the Ainslie published circuit so that it would finally do what HE said rather than what I said... and he never apologized or admitted he was wrong the whole time. Even now there exists a PDF document that he and his cohort Ashtweth wrote, that lies about me and about the duty cycle issue. You can look at his early videos with his new oscilloscope from that time and see for yourself that he did not know how to use it, and displayed screen after screen of garbage, false triggering and meaningless combs that were impossible to interpret properly, claiming that they represented phenomena in the circuit.
Here is just one of a large handful of videos that I made during that time in an attempt to illustrate and explain the 555 duty cycle issue to Aaron and Ainslie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhIDnjmPjW4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhIDnjmPjW4)
The argument even descended to this level, where I demonstrate a simple circuit that Aaron himself proposed, but never actually tested, he thinking it would support HIS point but actually as you can see it supports MY point instead. Do I sound angry in this video? Yes, I am indeed irate about having to do utterly remedial, eighth-grade level demonstrations to try to educate someone with as little integrity as Aaron Murakami.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSFS99SaZTA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSFS99SaZTA)

You think their "experiment" with the car coil is "really cool" with maybe a hidden secret, but you have nothing to say about my own demonstrations with the car coil?
I'm crushed, absolutely crushed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSMb69N39CQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSMb69N39CQ)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 26, 2014, 12:24:04 AM

I forgot to mention the video you linked. That is nothing new or remarkable at all, it simply illustrates what I said when I talked about my work with Peter Graneau. The presenter is discharging a capacitor bank into a chamber with a little water in it and producing a supersonic shockwave by the rapid flashing of the water to superheated steam in the arc channel. If he sealed the chamber tightly and filled it completely with water, the shockwave could even destroy the chamber itself. Again, you can believe what I am telling you, or not, it won't change the facts of the matter or the fact that I got paid handsomely during those research years for my expertise and assistance, things that I am giving to you here for nothing...except the abuse I get in return.

But since you brought it up... here's something that pushes the boundaries: underwater wireless electrolysis proof of concept demonstration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97ogTf3S3r8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97ogTf3S3r8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on November 26, 2014, 06:05:23 AM

Quote from: forest on November 25, 2014, 05:14:39 PM
Nelson
Counting on your amps usage maybe also using 9V battery ;) but I understand you may have no reason to use it ::) and took negative comments.
It remains me some effect of an arrow when it sharply pierce into the hard wood.The arrow movement is abruptly stopped yet still there is energy flow which cannot dissipate and return back and form kind of very fast oscillations of the end part of arrow beatting against the air...

Hi Forest,
The only simple reason to use a 12v battery is because the car relay is 12v . How you think i can use the 12v relay vibrate at 5kz with a 9v battery and maintain oscillation?If i want use 9v battery i have to find a 9v relay:) but for me it isn't important , because this piece of scrap (circuit) is only to study and observe.
Thanks

Im not worry about took negative comments :) because i learn with all information even failed tests.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on November 26, 2014, 06:21:01 AM

Quote from: MarkE on November 25, 2014, 06:23:25 PM
Nelson, reliable data always tells the story. 90%, or maybe as much as 99% of the battle is getting reliable data. Aaron has in the past been difficult because he resisted both explanation of obvious errors he was making and also to perform tests of his own to validate his beliefs a number of which TK proved were false.

Hi MarkE ,
I never say that work of Aron about this subject is 100% correct ! But what i try to say is that their work was important! Maybe Aron let himself get carried away, and could not understand some details, but can not say that his job was unsuccessful, because i learn with some details of their tests and from other people.
Even if Tim has proven to be right and in your personal dispute with Aaron , does not give the right to judge the purposes and intent of those who are interested in this type of study.What I saw happen was a bad advertisement for who is starting up in this forum.

Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 26, 2014, 01:21:47 PM

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on November 26, 2014, 06:21:01 AM
Hi MarkE ,
I never say that work of Aron about this subject is 100% correct ! But what i try to say is that their work was important! Maybe Aron let himself get carried away, and could not understand some details, but can not say that his job was unsuccessful, because i learn with some details of their tests and from other people.
Even if Tim has proven to be right and in your personal dispute with Aaron , does not give the right to judge the purposes and intent of those who are interested in this type of study.What I saw happen was a bad advertisement for who is starting up in this forum.

Thanks

Nelson it is difficult for me to view Aaron's activities as research. It is hard for me to find any factual contribution to knowledge made by Aaron.

There are different folks with different skill levels in different areas. And everyone makes mistakes sooner or later. The question is: Do they look for mistakes and correct them when found? With respect to the Ainslie claims Aaron fared very badly. It's OK that he made some big mistakes. The problem was that he fought and fought and fought reality as initially gently pointed out by TK, and then with greater and greater force by TK. I also agree with TK that there is something wrong with the idea of publishing three different books each purporting to teach the "complete secrets" of what is at its best a very complicated and large implementation of a lead acid battery desulphanator promoted by John Bedini, and at its worst are just false claims.

If you believe that you are learning something from Aaron, I would double check with other references.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 26, 2014, 01:30:47 PM

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on November 26, 2014, 06:05:23 AM
Hi Forest,
The only simple reason to use a 12v battery is because the car relay is 12v . How you think i can use the 12v relay vibrate at 5kz with a 9v battery and maintain oscillation?If i want use 9v battery i have to find a 9v relay:) but for me it isn't important , because this piece of scrap (circuit) is only to study and observe.
Thanks

Im not worry about took negative comments :) because i learn with all information even failed tests.

That's not really correct. If you look at the specifications for a 12V relay they will typically have minimum pull-in voltages of around 8V. Car relays tend to have even lower pull-in voltages so that they will work with a nearly dead battery.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on November 26, 2014, 01:49:27 PM

Quote from: MarkE on November 26, 2014, 01:21:47 PM
Nelson it is difficult for me to view Aaron's activities as research. It is hard for me to find any factual contribution to knowledge made by Aaron.

There are different folks with different skill levels in different areas. And everyone makes mistakes sooner or later. The question is: Do they look for mistakes and correct them when found? With respect to the Ainslie claims Aaron fared very badly. It's OK that he made some big mistakes. The problem was that he fought and fought and fought reality as initially gently pointed out by TK, and then with greater and greater force by TK. I also agree with TK that there is something wrong with the idea of publishing three different books each purporting to teach the "complete secrets" of what is at its best a very complicated and large implementation of a lead acid battery desulphanator promoted by John Bedini, and at its worst are just false claims.

If you believe that you are learning something from Aaron, I would double check with other references.

This should not be a local assessment judgments about people.
Only mentioned that some of the experiences that Aaron has published some videos about a particular subject and for me at least was advantageous. Never in question, the actions or purpose Aaron or anyone else. thats clear ?
I consider disrespectful making statements about people who are not here to defend these same charges.
I, like many people chose a path to follow.I learn even with mistakes of others, and not see it as a waste of time.
But everyone is different, and fortunately there is freedom, do not want to destroy the freedom of thinking of people.
The topic is Energy amplification right?
What we are discussing here?
If what show does not fit in the topic say! because it seems that I appear to bother some people with what I show in my rudimental tests.
For me will not be a problem to respect opinion of people and I will remove me from this forum.

Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on November 26, 2014, 02:26:23 PM

Quote:

" There are different folks with different skill levels in different areas. And everyone makes mistakes sooner or later. The question is: Do they look for mistakes and correct them when found? With respect to the Ainslie claims Aaron fared very badly. It's OK that he made some big mistakes. The problem was that he fought and fought and fought reality as initially gently pointed out... "

I have to agree..for instance, I tried to point out the dangerous properties involved in the process of making stainless steel, as it relates to the human body.

But do you think that numbskull would listen ?

Not on your life...instead he went on like a common internet troll.

http://www.overunity.com/15125/let-the-speculation-begin/new/topicseen/#new

Words is chewy, and can be very hard to swallow.

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 26, 2014, 07:34:48 PM

Now it's to be stalking as well? This is just getting sad Cap.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 26, 2014, 09:25:52 PM

I have in my hand right now a relay from an old CRT monitor, KLG brand, part number KAM-S-112C. It has a nominal 12 volt coil, is a SPDT type with contacts rated 12 A at 120 VAC or 24 VDC, and 10 A at 240 VAC. It works just fine with 7.5 volts DC to the coil. I can even drive the coil directly from my F43 function generator.

You never know until you try.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on November 26, 2014, 09:27:15 PM

Quote from hypocritical troll:

" There are different folks with different skill levels in different areas. And everyone makes mistakes sooner or later. The question is: Do they look for mistakes and correct them when found? With respect to the Ainslie claims Aaron fared very badly. It's OK that he made some big mistakes. The problem was that he fought and fought and fought reality as initially gently pointed out... "

Cap's reply:

" I have to agree..for instance, I tried to point out the dangerous properties involved in the process of making stainless steel, as it relates to the human body.

But do you think that numbskull would listen ?

Not on your life...instead he went on like a common internet troll.

http://www.overunity.com/15125/let-the-speculation-begin/new/topicseen/#new (http://www.overunity.com/15125/let-the-speculation-begin/new/topicseen/#new)

Words is chewy, and can be very hard to swallow.

Regards... "

Second quote from hypocritical troll:

" Now it's to be stalking as well? This is just getting sad Cap. "

According to troll logic, there's no way i should have been looking at this thread.

Tell me, how could I pass by words rising to that level of hypocrisy ?

If I were to let that opportunity pass (low hanging fruit tho it may be) i would stand to lose the respect of my loyal readership.

If there's anything I dislike more than a troll. its a hypocritical troll.

I mean, with the internet literally polluted with information on the toxicity of stainless steel, how is it that this sanctimonious "expert on virtually EVERYTHING be totally unaware of its existence ?

He will be heretofore be dubbed the Stainless Steel Troll, and have this episode shoved in his face in all future incursions.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 26, 2014, 09:43:05 PM

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on November 26, 2014, 01:49:27 PM
This should not be a local assessment judgments about people.
Only mentioned that some of the experiences that Aaron has published some videos about a particular subject and for me at least was advantageous. Never in question, the actions or purpose Aaron or anyone else. thats clear ?
I consider disrespectful making statements about people who are not here to defend these same charges.
I, like many people chose a path to follow.I learn even with mistakes of others, and not see it as a waste of time.
But everyone is different, and fortunately there is freedom, do not want to destroy the freedom of thinking of people.
The topic is Energy amplification right?
What we are discussing here?
If what show does not fit in the topic say! because it seems that I appear to bother some people with what I show in my rudimental tests.
For me will not be a problem to respect opinion of people and I will remove me from this forum.

Thanks

You will not find anyone more disrespectful of others who disagree with them than Aaron Murakami. I was banned from his forum, basically for being _right_ about what I was saying, as in the video links above and the rest of the Ainslie affair, and then they proceeded to insult and malign me in every way imaginable after I had no way to respond except in my videos and some posts on this forum ... but they never could prove me wrong or refute me in the slightest. Nor did they ever retract or apologize for their errors. Murakami even went so far as to post a redesigned 555 timer circuit that did (nearly) perform correctly, without even admitting he was utterly wrong about the actual circuit published by Ainslie. So I feel perfectly justified in telling the story in full, even today, when people start talking about "learning" from Aaron.

Please do not disappear from this forum! By discussing your experiment and your findings we all may learn something. What is "bothering" is when people make claims without support, or refuse to consider things that people with perhaps more experience might be saying. If you want to say that you have found something extraordinary, it is only natural to expect that you will be challenged. If a finding is real, and really extraordinary, it will withstand those challenges easily. Respect is given as a matter of course, but it can be lost if one behaves like another Aaron, who still makes claims without support, misrepresents facts, hides information that he doesn't like, and tries to profit from false claims.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 26, 2014, 11:40:34 PM

Tinsel Koala: Could you please comment on the attached pdf.
I enclose it because Tito once commented that you only need 3 wires.
Also Kapanadze told me his invention is "so simple - you'll laugh"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on November 27, 2014, 05:16:37 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 26, 2014, 09:43:05 PM
You will not find anyone more disrespectful of others who disagree with them than Aaron Murakami. I was banned from his forum, basically for being _right_ about what I was saying, as in the video links above and the rest of the Ainslie affair, and then they proceeded to insult and malign me in every way imaginable after I had no way to respond except in my videos and some posts on this forum ... but they never could prove me wrong or refute me in the slightest. Nor did they ever retract or apologize for their errors. Murakami even went so far as to post a redesigned 555 timer circuit that did (nearly) perform correctly, without even admitting he was utterly wrong about the actual circuit published by Ainslie. So I feel perfectly justified in telling the story in full, even today, when people start talking about "learning" from Aaron.

Please do not disappear from this forum! By discussing your experiment and your findings we all may learn something. What is "bothering" is when people make claims without support, or refuse to consider things that people with perhaps more experience might be saying. If you want to say that you have found something extraordinary, it is only natural to expect that you will be challenged. If a finding is real, and really extraordinary, it will withstand those challenges easily. Respect is given as a matter of course, but it can be lost if one behaves like another Aaron, who still makes claims without support, misrepresents facts, hides information that he doesn't like, and tries to profit from false claims.

Good Morning,

1- I returned to note that the character or actions of Aaron or other person does not concern me, and should never be under discussion this way.

2 So far the my results were never proclaimed as free energy or whatever.
The part of the extraordinary is free, and are you to say so, because I never referred to the circuit in this way.

3-Neither you nor anyone can lose respect by anyone because you run the risk of the answer be in the same currency, and will be guaranteed energy wasted by both parties.

4-I have nothing to prove and never won or profited by my statements.
What I do is what I show, not cheating anyone. If it works? They will have to test to see.

5-Some people in this forum who criticize my work, could be assumed, instead of sending private emails with offers of money in exchange of my diagrams how it happened, the money comes in handy but for me it's not all ..... ......

6-What did can be recreated by anyone, and surely others will have more competencies to evaluate and test.
I will not be taking the doubt to anyone, because I can not afford to make
the so demanding tests that ask me to do.

Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 27, 2014, 01:56:26 PM

http://auroratek.us/PRODUCTS.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 27, 2014, 02:19:53 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 27, 2014, 01:56:26 PM
http://auroratek.us/PRODUCTS.html (http://auroratek.us/PRODUCTS.html)

a.king 21
Can you post their patent(s) in pdf format ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 27, 2014, 02:31:32 PM

Quote from: forest on November 27, 2014, 02:19:53 PM
a.king 21
Can you post their patent(s) in pdf format ?

I don't have any more details. Patrick Kelly emailed me the link. I've looked at their site
and am not convinced.
I'm more interested in Daniel McFarland Cook's device at the moment.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 27, 2014, 02:34:03 PM

MarkE, TinselKoala

Can you look again into irf1405 datasheet Fig12a and tell me why this diode is needed to protect the other N-Mosfet (named "DRIVER" there ) ? Can you post link where I can learn how to manage/switch N and P mosfets in such strange positions in circuit ? How to shut it off very fast in such way when the Source terminal is not grounded ? Can the Mosfet be kept open and then shutoff by pulse from driver ?
Sorry , if that is offtopic . :-[ Long time ago I used to use p-Channel mosfets with kind of very fast switching small signal n-fet grounding the gate of it while normally gate was pulled up by resistor to +, It was very interesting experience, but it was too long ago :( and I forgot....
What is needed here is replacement of DPST relay I think ? Nelson ? ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 27, 2014, 02:51:26 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 27, 2014, 01:56:26 PM
http://auroratek.us/PRODUCTS.html (http://auroratek.us/PRODUCTS.html)

"Observe carefully the efficiency of these transformers? The "Classic" transformer has a typical efficiency of 85% - normal, nothing special. However, the SFT has an efficiency of 129%!!! Impossible you say??? Think again.

If you would like a "personal" demo of our tech, please feel free to contact us at: 480-474-4388"

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on November 27, 2014, 03:16:07 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 27, 2014, 01:56:26 PM
http://auroratek.us/PRODUCTS.html (http://auroratek.us/PRODUCTS.html)

The guy behind them is Bill Alek...

The video link in the below page was already given and discussed here somewhere, use the 'search forum' feature.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Bill_Alek_and_AuroraTek,_Inc.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 27, 2014, 03:53:02 PM

They mentioned bifilar coils to produce cooper pairs, interesting.
http://auroratek.us/SCIENCE.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 27, 2014, 06:31:41 PM

Quote from: forest on November 27, 2014, 02:34:03 PM
MarkE, TinselKoala

Can you look again into irf1405 datasheet Fig12a and tell me why this diode is needed to protect the other N-Mosfet (named "DRIVER" there ) ? Can you post link where I can learn how to manage/switch N and P mosfets in such strange positions in circuit ? How to shut it off very fast in such way when the Source terminal is not grounded ? Can the Mosfet be kept open and then shutoff by pulse from driver ?
Sorry , if that is offtopic . :-[ Long time ago I used to use p-Channel mosfets with kind of very fast switching small signal n-fet grounding the gate of it while normally gate was pulled up by resistor to +, It was very interesting experience, but it was too long ago :( and I forgot....
What is needed here is replacement of DPST relay I think ? Nelson ? ::)

Forest here is a basic set of diagrams for a buck converter suing high side or low side switches.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on November 27, 2014, 07:52:56 PM

Quote from: MarkE on November 27, 2014, 06:31:41 PM
Forest here is a basic set of diagrams for a buck converter suing high side or low side switches.

The current cycles through the diode because the electron does but what happens to the voltage.
It dissipates into the battery

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 27, 2014, 10:02:30 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on November 27, 2014, 07:52:56 PM
The current cycles through the diode because the electron does but what happens to the voltage.
It dissipates into the battery

Dave that does not happen. See the current loops.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 27, 2014, 10:50:49 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 26, 2014, 11:40:34 PM
Tinsel Koala: Could you please comment on the attached pdf.
I enclose it because Tito once commented that you only need 3 wires.
Also Kapanadze told me his invention is "so simple - you'll laugh"

I've looked at the document and I see nothing special. I see a couple of inductors wired together and some mistaken claims about how they are expected to behave. I assure you that they will not behave that way. The flattened wires or ribbons are classic Red Herrings, they have no functional significance in the device as shown. Such conductors are used in certain HF HV systems to _reduce_ the inductance of bus wiring or Tesla-style primaries, or to pack more copper into a compact winding geometry. They have no significance in the illustrated inductors. Tito has never produced anything credible in all the years I've been looking at his "entertaining" posts, and I am quite sure that Kapanadze told you the truth-- it is so simple you'll laugh, at the concealed wires leading to his home's mains power connection to the grid, or the concealed batteries which provide the power to his clever fakes.

It would be ridiculously easy to prove me wrong: All Kap or Akula/Ruslan/Stivep has to do is send an operating self-running device to Stefan, or Sterlinga, or Chet, or even YOU for honest testing. That of course will never happen. And I know why... and so do you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 27, 2014, 10:56:39 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 27, 2014, 02:51:26 PM
"Observe carefully the efficiency of these transformers? The "Classic" transformer has a typical efficiency of 85% - normal, nothing special. However, the SFT has an efficiency of 129%!!! Impossible you say??? Think again.

If you would like a "personal" demo of our tech, please feel free to contact us at: 480-474-4388"

Mags

We have already seen Alek's "demo" of these devices. Don't you remember that he was supposed to demonstrate a scooter, even showed a photoshop ripoff of a commercial electric scooter, that he claimed would recharge its own batteries and run around the parking lot for hours without depleting the charge? And his transformer demonstration that was a comedy of false claims and erroneous measurements? Feel free to contact him, sure. Go ahead. Send him some money to buy one, then test it yourself, honestly and correctly, and report your results here. Moving from greatly inefficient to a little less inefficient is not "ou" and will not produce an end-to-end gain in efficiency. Too bad his claim isn't a few percent more, since I Absolutely Guarantee that I can make any device with electrical inputs and outputs self-loop if its true "efficiency" is equal to or greater than 130 percent.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 28, 2014, 12:02:04 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 27, 2014, 10:50:49 PM
Tito has never produced anything credible in all the years I've been looking at his "entertaining" posts, and I am quite sure that Kapanadze told you the truth-- it is so simple you'll laugh, at the concealed wires leading to his home's mains power connection to the grid, or the concealed batteries which provide the power to his clever fakes.

A little ouch!!! >:( ;D well at least you were entertain. :D

it is so happen that we still need a battery in free energy device IN ONE DESIGN as a buffer.
In other design we need an antenna.
and in other design we just need capacitor. :)

That means it is depends on the design you make.
The important thing is you must know the controlled amplifying action of the coil. ;)

by the way, have you been in love? ???
well, if you laugh that is so simple and that's free energy. ;D

otoits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 28, 2014, 01:01:36 AM

OK!

Lets simplified things! >:(

In tesla coil to make free energy we can make light as many as we can without circuit connection that's unlimited light isn't it. etc.
do you need still some credibility in that sense? that's obvious isn't it.

did you see the missing point : THE RECEIVER 8)

i just help people by telling and simplifying ideas that is obvious but little bit hidden. got it! >:(

some people here maybe got some wave in time i am currently experimenting many things in this field.
well, you're lucky if you got some. cause i intentionally inputted lots of jumbled info to see if some got some. got it?. guess not ;D

noicatits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 28, 2014, 01:23:17 AM

Tito...Well... presumably the receiver is Tesla's radiant energy receiver??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Madeo on November 28, 2014, 01:28:11 AM

so 438 pages later, Where is this device ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 28, 2014, 06:24:51 AM

Quote from: Madeo on November 28, 2014, 01:28:11 AM
so 438 pages later, Where is this device ???

classified ;D ;D ;D ;D because it is so simple "you'll laugh"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 28, 2014, 06:26:53 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 28, 2014, 01:23:17 AM
Tito...Well... presumably the receiver is Tesla's radiant energy receiver??

well..yes..kind of ;) think how you would modify it to get larger output then stop for a moment and rethink what you learned...the best way is to write it on paper and read next day and next day up to the moment you got it ...that's how I learned a lot

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on November 28, 2014, 03:39:36 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 28, 2014, 01:23:17 AM
Tito...Well... presumably the receiver is Tesla's radiant energy receiver??

...with some trick and twist..... ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 28, 2014, 10:33:14 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 28, 2014, 01:23:17 AM
Tito...Well... presumably the receiver is Tesla's radiant energy receiver??

Well, maybe you were right.

or maybe its a GENERAL ENERGY AMPLIFICATION :D

Imagine tesla made the magnifying transmitter expending lots of money? :o
do you think he is not sure of the receiver or the amplification method?. think everyone! :D
where is the receiver patent? who is the one holding it? ??? ::)

So in that hint of tesla, IF we are just thinking, i am very sure now that FREE ENERGY IS real!.

OR MAYBE I HAVE TO BE A CREDIBLE PERSON FIRST ISN'T IT TINSEL KOALOC?. ;D

ETITS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 28, 2014, 10:50:05 PM

Quote from: forest on November 28, 2014, 06:26:53 AM

well..yes..kind of ;) think how you would modify it to get larger output then stop for a moment and rethink what you learned...the best way is to write it on paper and read next day and next day up to the moment you got it ...that's how I learned a lot

Tesla really gives us a good hint, imagine his electro magnet, its difference to the ordinary coil
test the effect and see how far the strength from ordinary coil.

now if we combine the capacitor kicking it in __________________ then if we put lots of receiving ___________ and be sure there is no traffic on the highway bridge. ;D
The result is over overunity. ;D

note: in one kick there are two birds should be hit. ;) 8) normally. :) did you forgot my door to door delivery technique?.

by the way: You are lucky if you will wake up the next day. ;D

and That is your exam today fill in the blanks. ;D

etiots ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 29, 2014, 11:29:42 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 27, 2014, 10:50:49 PM
I've looked at the document and I see nothing special. I see a couple of inductors wired together and some mistaken claims about how they are expected to behave. I assure you that they will not behave that way. The flattened wires or ribbons are classic Red Herrings, they have no functional significance in the device as shown. Such conductors are used in certain HF HV systems to _reduce_ the inductance of bus wiring or Tesla-style primaries, or to pack more copper into a compact winding geometry. They have no significance in the illustrated inductors. Tito has never produced anything credible in all the years I've been looking at his "entertaining" posts, and I am quite sure that Kapanadze told you the truth-- it is so simple you'll laugh, at the concealed wires leading to his home's mains power connection to the grid, or the concealed batteries which provide the power to his clever fakes.

It would be ridiculously easy to prove me wrong: All Kap or Akula/Ruslan/Stivep has to do is send an operating self-running device to Stefan, or Sterlinga, or Chet, or even YOU for honest testing. That of course will never happen. And I know why... and so do you.

"The flattened wires or ribbons are classic Red Herrings, they have no functional significance in the device as shown."

I beg to differ. I enclose an extract from a book of the early 19th century illustrating the terms Cook used. Cook is in fact utilizing the collapse Emf also known as spike energy, or collapsing BEMF.
An analysis of the terms will help us to understand Cook's patent properly.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 29, 2014, 11:55:07 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 29, 2014, 11:29:42 PM

"The flattened wires or ribbons are classic Red Herrings, they have no functional significance in the device as shown."

I beg to differ. I enclose an extract from a book of the early 19th century illustrating the terms Cook used. Cook is in fact utilizing the collapse Emf also known as spike energy, or collapsing BEMF.
An analysis of the terms will help us to understand Cook's patent properly.

You can beg to differ all you like, but what you show there is very different from the patent you asked me to read and comment on. Flat ribbon conductors, spirals and buses, are indeed used in various systems, and the reason for them is that they have lower self-inductance than the equivalent amount of copper in round wiring. For example if you want to conduct your capacitor discharge into other components or spark gaps and you do NOT want residual inductance to affect your performance by messing up the shape of the discharge pulse, you will choose ribbons over round wiring. Tesla, and Cook, as you show, used ribbons for exactly that reason. But that is not a feature of the document I read when you asked me. Did I get hold of the wrong document by mistake?
Now, if you want to do a demonstration of the thing you actually wanted me to read, comparing ordinary round wire and flat ribbon wire, and can show some significant difference in performance in _that_ apparatus, I'd like to see it.
You are engaging in what is called "bait and switch" : here, respond to A you say, and then you wave B at me and tell me that my response doesn't apply to B. Well, duh.
Go ahead, show some work of your own concerning high voltage spikes, discharges of capacitors into various systems, voltage amplification by standing wave resonance, wireless transmission of _real_ power, or anything like that. Tito, the invitation applies to you as well. So far, over the years I have been on this forum, I have not seen anyone, except Farmhand, have a practical understanding or produce effects in those areas that are any better than what I show and explain in dozens of video demonstrations. MarkE has a real handle on the theoretical background of electronic systems and can give you all the theory you could ask for, and I build things that actually _work as I say they do_. Go ahead and prove me wrong with some demonstrations of your own.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 30, 2014, 01:38:37 AM

Tinsel: How can you say this is a bait and switch?
McFarland Cooke uses terms which are no longer in use today. I simply ask you to look at the terms he used in order to understand what he meant. What is wrong with that? I agree your knowledge of electricity is greater than mine - that is why I am asking your opinion based on what McFarland Cook actually says.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: cheappower2012 on November 30, 2014, 04:28:31 AM

To a.king21 you do realize that the hard line skeptics and
want-to-be hard line skeptics,and hard line mad-dog skeptics,on overunity.com,believe
that Tariel Kapanadze's device is a fake.The skeptics believe
Tariel is simply a conman doing a clever trick to fleece money from people.
The Akula/Ruslan devices are fake
they are not true replications of the Tariel device,as I told you a while back
Tariels devices have nothing to do with Tesla,Tariel says they are a Tesla
invention to fake you out.However if you want to believe its a Tesla invention
thats your business.You have answered my questions in the past,
regarding the aquarium 2 video,were any HD pictures taken of
the green transformer from the top of the plastic case looking down over the green transformer.
What has happened to your team
that went to see Tariel in Georgia,are they still trying to replicate the aquarium 2 device.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 30, 2014, 07:15:48 AM

cheappower2012: The team is disbanded.
The problem with your post is that you appear to have the answers. If you do, could you please
let me know. PM me if you want to keep the info private.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: cheappower2012 on November 30, 2014, 07:11:06 PM

To a.king21
Heres the problem,as I told you a while back its not that its so simple you would laugh
its so strange you would not believe it.I plan on open sourcing the information
its not complete yet,it is moving along.Tariel is a master at deception,this makes a simple device extremely complex.
Tariel does not want anyone to ever figure out how to build it.And as I told you before you can't make money with this device
because,people would simply make there own,the skill level in here is more than enough.
The main components of this device are the green transformer,the coil around the plastic
tube where the blue coil is wound,and of course the blue coil.The replicators in here believe
the ways in which the blue coil is wound determines its operation,only the length is important.
This device is not a free energy device but an energy converter,of an unknown energy source.
The device does not work on any kind of resonance,it could be called an energy amplifier,or more correctly a
current amplifier.When you examine the connections closely of the,green transformer and coils this forms a simple circuit.
The circuit shows 2 energy amplifiers one is concern with powering the 2kw heater only,the other energy amplifier
feeds one section of the green transformer to step down the voltage to around 12 vac this powers the rest of the device to loop it.
It is possible to simulate sections of this device that are not operating in a strange way,but conform to standard
electronics,I created a hardware version of the circuit,it works as I said it did,remember this is the main circuit of device,it does set
conditions what direction to go.The green transformer holds the key to this device,I recently
acquired some of these types of transformers,to get an idea of the construction of them,they were made in the USSR
from early 70's to 80's,they were used in both military and civilian applications,these types of transformers would be
available in Georgia as surplus.Tariel I believe got the idea of the device from tinkering with them.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on November 30, 2014, 07:34:37 PM

Quote from: cheappower2012 on November 30, 2014, 04:28:31 AM
To a.king21 you do realize that the hard line skeptics and
want-to-be hard line skeptics,and hard line mad-dog skeptics,on overunity.com,believe
that Tariel Kapanadze's device is a fake.The skeptics believe
Tariel is simply a conman doing a clever trick to fleece money from people.
The Akula/Ruslan devices are fake
they are not true replications of the Tariel device,as I told you a while back
Tariels devices have nothing to do with Tesla,Tariel says they are a Tesla
invention to fake you out.However if you want to believe its a Tesla invention
thats your business.You have answered my questions in the past,
regarding the aquarium 2 video,were any HD pictures taken of
the green transformer from the top of the plastic case looking down over the green transformer.
What has happened to your team
that went to see Tariel in Georgia,are they still trying to replicate the aquarium 2 device.

You can change skepticism by proving that the claims are true.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: cheappower2012 on November 30, 2014, 11:30:16 PM

o Mark E,
heres the problem until I have all the pieces needed,then I will present them.
Something of this nature would be strange compared to what you know,so would be rejected as fake,
without,a working device,identification of energy source,theory of operation.
You and the other hard line skeptics reject that a simple person could come up with an invention
of this type in this case an old Santa clause looking white guy in a junk workshop.I didn't invent this device I
simply investigate devices that I think are possible,There is a simple effect connected to this
device and to another device.As to why Tariel, if hes device is real,doesn't simply do a 3rd party test
,show it works,make a fortune ,the answer is very simple,the device is simple
once its know how to make it,people will make there own and cut out the inventor,and there are a lot of thieves in
here, including a few skeptics that are,LOL. A.king21 organized the team to see Tariel in Georgia and set conditions to minimize
any fraud,he has got ignored by just about everybody.Tariel made the aquarium 2 to conditions set by a.king21
Skeptics have a tendency to consider other people as fools.Hes team was considered fools,they ran the device for 4.5
hours with a 2kw load to eliminate a battery,they removed a ground connection to eliminate a grid connection.
The goal was to test and make sure it was real,get Tariel to sign an agreement to be able to make the device.
Tariel is an unstable person ,told them goto hell,at the time Tariel was very sick so instead of making or modifying
a critical part,he used a commercially made part and didn't hide it.This is not a simple hoax like the QEG
a bedini special,or a simple buried grid wire or batteries powering a device.If you need more info on the teams visit ask a.king21
Here is a picture from a Russian web site it summarizes the problems connected to this device,I know your a smart guy,
you will see and say its fucken impossible,LOL and it is from a conventional view point.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 01, 2014, 03:01:17 AM

Quote from: cheappower2012 on November 30, 2014, 11:30:16 PM
o Mark E,
heres the problem until I have all the pieces needed,then I will present them.

Present what you want when you feel ready. It is no problem to me as long as you refrain from making claims that you are not prepared to substantiate.

Quote

Something of this nature would be strange compared to what you know,so would be rejected as fake,
without,a working device,identification of energy source,theory of operation.

The more unusual the claim the stronger the evidence that is required. If a very unusual claim is made with weak evidence or no evidence at all then it should be rejected.

Quote

You and the other hard line skeptics reject that a simple person could come up with an invention
of this type in this case an old Santa clause looking white guy in a junk workshop.

The invention is not in view so I don't know what "type" you mean. What makes something believable or not is the strength of the evidence that supports it. If someone with a weak education in the subject matter makes an extraordinary claim then there's a good chance that they did not gather rigorous data and have made a mistake. If someone with a strong education in the subject matter makes an extraordinary claim then I expect as a matter of course that they have the commensurate data to back their statements and will offer that data as evidence for their claims. It is always the data that tells the story. It is the data that matters. It doesn't matter who comes up with the data.

Quote

I didn't invent this device I
simply investigate devices that I think are possible,There is a simple effect connected to this
device and to another device.As to why Tariel, if hes device is real,doesn't simply do a 3rd party test
,show it works,make a fortune ,the answer is very simple,the device is simple
once its know how to make it,people will make there own and cut out the inventor,and there are a lot of thieves in
here, including a few skeptics that are,LOL.

That puts him between a rock and a hard place: Don't prove the claim and no one buys yielding no exploitation. Do prove without adequate IP protection and suffer as Fulton did. If you ever present then the supposed genie will be out of the bottle.

Quote

A.king21 organized the team to see Tariel in Georgia and set conditions to minimize
any fraud,he has got ignored by just about everybody.Tariel made the aquarium 2 to conditions set by a.king21
Skeptics have a tendency to consider other people as fools.Hes team was considered fools,they ran the device for 4.5
hours with a 2kw load to eliminate a battery,they removed a ground connection to eliminate a grid connection.
The goal was to test and make sure it was real,get Tariel to sign an agreement to be able to make the device.
Tariel is an unstable person ,told them goto hell,at the time Tariel was very sick so instead of making or modifying
a critical part,he used a commercially made part and didn't hide it.This is not a simple hoax like the QEG
a bedini special,or a simple buried grid wire or batteries powering a device.If you need more info on the teams visit ask a.king21
Here is a picture from a Russian web site it summarizes the problems connected to this device,I know your a smart guy,
you will see and say its fucken impossible,LOL and it is from a conventional view point.

Again: Data tells the story.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on December 01, 2014, 04:24:37 AM

Did a.king or anyone else go outside and pull the mains breaker that completely disconnected Tariel's house from the local grid during the demonstration? Pulling out a ground wire from the apparatus does not affect a tuned wireless receiver circuit, with a transmitter concealed under the floorboards of the house, but pulling the mains breaker would probably disable that transmitter. The visible components of the aquarium box are just what one needs to make such a tuned-circuit wireless power receiver.

And yes, I know the story of the island excursion too.

Why did not the Russian or some other military agency come and confiscate the device, and then install copies of it in their military equipment, tanks, rocket launchers, etc. so that they don't need to depend on any outside power source? I know why. Don't you?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on December 01, 2014, 05:09:53 AM

@TK

QuoteI've looked at the document and I see nothing special. I see a couple of
inductors wired together and some mistaken claims about how they are expected to
behave. I assure you that they will not behave that way. The flattened wires or
ribbons are classic Red Herrings, they have no functional significance in the
device as shown. Such conductors are used in certain HF HV systems to _reduce_
the inductance of bus wiring or Tesla-style primaries, or to pack more copper
into a compact winding geometry. They have no significance in the illustrated
inductors. Tito has never produced anything credible in all the years I've been
looking at his "entertaining" posts, and I am quite sure that Kapanadze told you
the truth-- it is so simple you'll laugh, at the concealed wires leading to his
home's mains power connection to the grid, or the concealed batteries which
provide the power to his clever fakes.

There lies the problem doesn't it?... " I see nothing special" yet somewhere within us we know if we are to succeed something special must be required because what we normally do does not work. If we were to apply a little critical thinking we might find we are trying to apply normality to a scenario we have already admitted cannot be normal thus we already know the result due to our thinking because we have predetermined what it is... so why bother with any of it?.

QuoteIt would be ridiculously easy to prove me wrong: All Kap or
Akula/Ruslan/Stivep has to do is send an operating self-running device to
Stefan, or Sterlinga, or Chet, or even YOU for honest testing. That of course
will never happen. And I know why... and so do you.

Of course I do, if I was sitting on a billion dollar technology then the thought of giving it to some people I don't even know simply to impress them would probably be the last thing on my mind. Why that would be like going up to someone on the street and saying here could you hold this unsigned cheque for $100,000 dollars for a few minutes just so they think your really rich and trusting. I understand your point however thinking they actually care what we or anyone else thinks is a little far fetched in my opinion. I would try to get as far away from the OU forums as possible because as Albert Einstein once said--"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources".
AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: cheappower2012 on December 01, 2014, 06:10:15 AM

to Mark E
I agree with you

to TK
Some skeptics require absolute proof, or he must have faked it,or it was done thru a wireless system
ok a possible method, simply light a 2kw load 6 feet away ,don't forget its a 2kw load ,not a led or a very small lamp a foot away.

You want believe its fake I have no problem with that,you want to force your beliefs
on me,I have big problem with that.I have no desire to debate or even talk to you.
Heres a system you might want to build to show the aquarium 2 is a fake,good luck,have nice day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6UCwqjdpo0

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 01, 2014, 02:35:41 PM

Quote from: cheappower2012 on December 01, 2014, 06:10:15 AM
to Mark E
I agree with you

to TK
Some skeptics require absolute proof, or he must have faked it,or it was done thru a wireless system
ok a possible method, simply light a 2kw load 6 feet away ,don't forget its a 2kw load ,not a led or a very small lamp a foot away.

You want believe its fake I have no problem with that,you want to force your beliefs
on me,I have big problem with that.I have no desire to debate or even talk to you.
Heres a system you might want to build to show the aquarium 2 is a fake,good luck,have nice day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6UCwqjdpo0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6UCwqjdpo0)

So Tariel is an exceptional genius anyway.
Chun T. Rim, a professor of Nuclear & Quantum Engineering at KAIST, and his team showcased a mere 200 watts. How pathetic compared to the 2 Kw Kapandze produced.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on December 01, 2014, 05:37:51 PM

@Mark E

QuoteThe more unusual the claim the stronger the evidence that is required. If a very unusual claim is made with weak evidence or no evidence at all then it should be rejected.

Imagine we were standing in a field talking 200 years ago at a time when it was known and proven beyond all doubt that nothing heavier than air could possibly fly. What if you told me man cannot fly and the reasons are obvious and based in science and my extraordinary claim that man could fly is false and would require extraordinary proof.

My solution would be to say we require no proof because you already have it and know the solution but cannot put it into perspective. You see you know that bird that just flew over your head is heavier than air and you know that if we placed it on a scale it would be heavier than air and yet it can fly, you already know the answer but are unwilling to accept it.

So we can see there is no amount of evidence that can prove anything to anyone if they are unwilling to accept the truth which in some sense they already know. We know this because we see it everywhere every day and people tend to believe whatever gets them through another day.

On a brighter note, if we were to apply a little critical thinking we might understand that the example above may give us some insight into the obvious just beyond our grasp. Fundamentally a magnetic field has two directions, expansion and contraction, and moving the field source is simply another way of saying the field expands into one region while contracting from another. All our systems operate in the same way we simply see them as being different. A magnetic field is like a balloon and we expand it by blowing it up then contract it by releasing the pressure. We inflate one balloon to act against another balloon which opposes it's change and we call this work.

However nobody seems to have considered what might happen if we were to pop the balloon or pull on it from two directions simultaneously then release it to oscillate on it's own or stretch it to the point of breaking. We continue to do the same thing over and over bound to a normalcy we alone have created then condemn those who may step outside the box. In any case the truth is always obvious, that damn bird is circling overhead just waiting to be seen but we have to look up and know what we are seeing and accept it for what it is.

AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 01, 2014, 06:52:36 PM

Quote from: allcanadian on December 01, 2014, 05:37:51 PM
@Mark E

Imagine we were standing in a field talking 200 years ago at a time when it was known and proven beyond all doubt that nothing heavier than air could possibly fly.

You mean like birds???

QuoteWhat if you told me man cannot fly and the reasons are obvious and based in science and my extraordinary claim that man could fly is false and would require extraordinary proof.

At the time manned HTA flight didn't exist and no one knew a way to do it. Some concluded that a solution could not be found. But then people had for centuries watched those HTA birds do it.

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My solution would be to say we require no proof because you already have it and know the solution but cannot put it into perspective. You see you know that bird that just flew over your head is heavier than air and you know that if we placed it on a scale it would be heavier than air and yet it can fly, you already know the answer but are unwilling to accept it.

This sounds like you are creating a straw man where you require that I ignore observable fact so that you can show me that I ignore observable fact. I'm sorry but that makes no sense to me at all.

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So we can see there is no amount of evidence that can prove anything to anyone if they are unwilling to accept the truth which in some sense they already know. We know this because we see it everywhere every day and people tend to believe whatever gets them through another day.

Err no. You established circularly that if someone ignores observable facts that they are ignoring observable facts.

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On a brighter note, if we were to apply a little critical thinking we might understand that the example above may give us some insight into the obvious just beyond our grasp.

If something is "just beyond our grasp" then it can hardly be obvious can it? That which is obvious is already within our grasp.

QuoteFundamentally a magnetic field has two directions, expansion and contraction, and moving the field source is simply another way of saying the field expands into one region while contracting from another. All our systems operate in the same way we simply see them as being different. A magnetic field is like a balloon and we expand it by blowing it up then contract it by releasing the pressure. We inflate one balloon to act against another balloon which opposes it's change and we call this work.

I'm sorry but we have very well developed vector math that describes magnetic fields very precisely in three Cartesian directions and time. The balloon analogy may help you to understand some circumstances intuitively but it is not at all rigorous.

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However nobody seems to have considered what might happen if we were to pop the balloon or pull on it from two directions simultaneously then release it to oscillate on it's own or stretch it to the point of breaking. We continue to do the same thing over and over bound to a normalcy we alone have created then condemn those who may step outside the box. In any case the truth is always obvious, that damn bird is circling overhead just waiting to be seen but we have to look up and know what we are seeing and accept it for what it is.

I see another straw man here. If someone has a novel idea they are free to develop evidence that supports their idea. If they don't come up with evidence then there is little reason to consider the idea correct. Birds are HTA. Birds can fly. Does that mean anything HTA can fly? If not, why not? Can "very small rocks" fly? When it comes to the First Principles they are First Principles because when we observe to the best of our ability they appear inviolate. IOW there are no free energy birds fluttering about directly contradicting conservation of: momentum or energy. If such birds were to appear many people in science would start chasing them ferociously.

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AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on December 01, 2014, 08:53:23 PM

@Mark E

QuoteThis sounds like you are creating a straw man where you require that I ignore observable fact so that you can show me that I ignore observable fact. I'm sorry but that makes no sense to me at all.

I was simply pointing out by example that our history is pretty much defined by faulty logic which we thought was beyond question. The fact remains most all believed something which was proven not to be true and to make matters worse they tried to reinforce their false beliefs with logic and science. We know this don't we?, I mean we have all read the history books and evolved our understanding since then. It was simply my way of saying were not always right even when we think we have undeniable proof.

QuoteIf something is "just beyond our grasp" then it can hardly be obvious can it? That which is obvious is already within our grasp.

Your logic seems sound however it relies on a first person perspective ie. if I cannot understand it then it cannot be true while a third person perspective may assume the solution is obvious and right in front of us however we cannot see it because our mind will not allow us to accept it ie. psychology. The mistake is in thinking we can trust out thinking hence the need for critical thinking and reflection on our thought process. It assumes we and our thinking are an integral part of the problem versus trying to distance ourselves from our own beliefs to try and reinforce them in others.

QuoteI'm sorry but we have very well developed vector math that describes magnetic fields very precisely in three Cartesian directions and time. The balloon analogy may help you to understand some circumstances intuitively but it is not at all rigorous.

I believe you, math describes magnetic fields very precisely however it does not describe what a magnetic field is nor why it is. So the question we should ask is how can we build a foundation on something which has no real foundation?. That is like saying the math describes how an apple falls very precisely we just don't know why it falls because we do not know what Gravity is. I understand you are trying to imply understanding however if we start asking the right questions the whole thing degenerates into more and more unanswered questions.

QuoteWhen it comes to the First Principles they are First Principles because when we observe to the best of our ability they appear inviolate.

Now were getting somewhere, A first principle is a basic, foundational proposition or assumption that cannot be deduced from any other proposition or assumption. However we have a problem because we assume we know what a magnetic field may do in every case based on observation and calculation but we don't know what it is nor why it is. Wait a minute I thought we said this was a foundation, I thought we said it is the most basic most fundamental understanding we have and yet we do not know what it is nor why it is. Now I could be wrong but it would seem to me knowing what the magnetic field is and why it exists would be a first principal and not simple observations of something we don't understand and what it appears to do most of the time.

You make some very good points and your reasoning is very sound however when we apply critical thinking and psychology I have found things tend to go all to hell in a big hurry. I hope I am not being to critical and I really had to think about your responses to my post and my responses to you, I think I may have leaned something in the process, lol.

AC

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 01, 2014, 09:15:00 PM

Quote from: allcanadian on December 01, 2014, 08:53:23 PM
@Mark E

I was simply pointing out by example that our history is pretty much defined by faulty logic which we thought was beyond question. The fact remains most all believed something which was proven not to be true and to make matters worse they tried to reinforce their false beliefs with logic and science. We know this don't we?, I mean we have all read the history books and evolved our understanding since then. It was simply my way of saying were not always right even when we think we have undeniable proof.

By "most all" do you mean the uneducated general public? Do you mean the certain prominent individuals? You certainly don't mean all the people who had been working to solve the engineering problems of the day.

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Your logic seems sound however it relies on a first person perspective ie. if I cannot understand it then it cannot be true

Kindly show me where I said such a thing. Either an unusual claim has supporting evidence or it doesn't.

Quotewhile a third person perspective may assume the solution is obvious and right in front of us however we cannot see it because our mind will not allow us to accept it ie. psychology. The mistake is in thinking we can trust out thinking hence the need for critical thinking and reflection on our thought process. It assumes we and our thinking are an integral part of the problem versus trying to distance ourselves from our own beliefs to try and reinforce them in others.

There's a whole lot of assumptions in there. It is pretty simple: Rational people evaluate evidence as objectively as possible. Claims don't make evidence. Evidence comes from repeatable observations.

Quote

I believe you, math describes magnetic fields very precisely however it does not describe what a magnetic field is nor why it is.

Neither does the balloon analogy.

QuoteSo the question we should ask is how can we build a foundation on something which has no real foundation?.

We build our foundations of understanding on that which we can observe. We extend our chance observations by designing experiments that test our ideas.

QuoteThat is like saying the math describes how an apple falls very precisely we just don't know why it falls because we do not know what Gravity is. I understand you are trying to imply understanding however if we start asking the right questions the whole thing degenerates into more and more unanswered questions.

You are descending into argument from ignorance. What we observe is unchanged by that which we have yet to understand. We learn more by being careful about our observations.

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Now were getting somewhere, A first principle is a basic, foundational proposition or assumption that cannot be deduced from any other proposition or assumption. However we have a problem because we assume we know what a magnetic field may do in every case based on observation and calculation but we don't know what it is nor why it is. Wait a minute I thought we said this was a foundation, I thought we said it is the most basic most fundamental understanding we have and yet we do not know what it is nor why it is. Now I could be wrong but it would seem to me knowing what the magnetic field is and why it exists would be a first principal and not simple observations of something we don't understand appears to do most of the time.

You making an argument from ignorance. A First Principle like any other principle holds until observation disproves it. The First Principles we have so far have held up quite well. If one wishes to challenge their validity then one needs to start with a contradictory observation.

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You make some very good points and your reasoning is very sound however when we apply critical thinking and psychology I have found things tend to go all to hell in a big hurry. I hope I am not being to critical and I really had to think about your responses to my post and my responses to you, I think I may have leaned something in the process, lol.

AC

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on December 02, 2014, 04:39:13 AM

@Mark E

QuoteBy "most all" do you mean the uneducated general public? Do you mean the certain prominent individuals? You certainly don't mean all the people who had been working to solve the engineering problems of the day.

If we look back in history certain individuals or at best small groups defied the logic and understanding of everyone else present. I understand many may say it was a large group effort however this only occurred after the fact and initially all change was opposed. The Down Wind faster than the wind technology is a perfect example of how everyone used their common sense and assumptions to completely undermine real science. It was an example of how far technology has come and how little our way of thinking has changed.

QuoteThere's a whole lot of assumptions in there. It is pretty simple: Rational people evaluate evidence as objectively as possible. Claims don't make evidence. Evidence comes from repeatable observations.

I would agree however how do we know we are being objective and how do we know what we are seeing?. We may think we are being objective but that is simply an opinion because fundamentally we oppose all change. To be honest I always thought I was rational, objective and open minded then I used critical thinking to take a third person perspective and examine my thoughts and found I was not so much. I understand everyone else in the world may believe they are objective and open minded however on examination I have come to understand I am not. I hope to change that and we should be honest with ourselves first.

QuoteYou making an argument from ignorance. A First Principle like any other principle holds until observation disproves it. The First Principles we have so far have held up quite well. If one wishes to challenge their validity then one needs to start with a contradictory observation.

That line of reason holds until we understand all the most important stuff is hidden from us. You will never observe a field fundamentally and yet we know something is present. You will never observe the smallest most fundamental particles nor the end of the universe. We have literally no real insight into the infinitely small or large and yet we feel we do understand them. So yes I do make arguments from ignorance because I understand in many ways I am ignorant. The first step to solving a problem is admitting there is one.

QuoteWe build our foundations of understanding on that which we can observe. We extend our chance observations by designing experiments that test our ideas.

To be honest I agree with what you have said however as I said we can prove something by experiment and still be completely wrong. I think the most fundamental mistake relates to common sense which is so strange I'm not even sure I agree with myself,lol. For instance I drop a ball and I observe it fall, then I conclude all things heavier than air must fall then common sense tells me nothing heavier than air could possibly fly. This is the process our mind uses to rationalize things, this is how our mind works. We make observations then try to rationalize how the observation relates to everything else. Generally speaking the observation is biased because it is based on relationships which may or may not exist derived from common sense. Then we see John Hutchison's floating bowling ball and all hell breaks loose. Common sense tells us no, no,no this cannot be because I dropped a ball and it fell, we all dropped a ball and it fell.

In any case you are perfectly correct and everything you have said is reasonable and logical. It all works perfectly well right up to that single moment when it doesn't... that's the part I'm interested in.

AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on December 02, 2014, 08:17:35 AM

wise and thoughtful comment :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 02, 2014, 09:50:19 AM

Quote from: allcanadian on December 02, 2014, 04:39:13 AM
@Mark E

If we look back in history certain individuals or at best small groups defied the logic and understanding of everyone else present. I understand many may say it was a large group effort however this only occurred after the fact and initially all change was opposed. The Down Wind faster than the wind technology is a perfect example of how everyone used their common sense and assumptions to completely undermine real science. It was an example of how far technology has come and how little our way of thinking has changed.

The DWFTW device is an example of where specialized expertise trumped intuition. The proponent is a specialist in aerodynamics. He had a novel and unintuitive idea, and proved that idea first on paper and then in real life. I don't know anyone who has examined the math presented or the demonstrations and claimed that they were wrong. In terms of the Wright brothers there was a lot of other simultaneous effort in both the USA and Europe. The Wright brothers managed to succeed first and rightly get the credit for their achievement.

Quote

I would agree however how do we know we are being objective and how do we know what we are seeing?.

As individuals we don't. By following the scientific method, as a community overall we will tend to be objective.

QuoteWe may think we are being objective but that is simply an opinion because fundamentally we oppose all change. To be honest I always thought I was rational, objective and open minded then I used critical thinking to take a third person perspective and examine my thoughts and found I was not so much. I understand everyone else in the world may believe they are objective and open minded however on examination I have come to understand I am not. I hope to change that and we should be honest with ourselves first.

No one operates without bias. That's why the scientific method is so important.

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That line of reason holds until we understand all the most important stuff is hidden from us. You will never observe a field fundamentally and yet we know something is present. You will never observe the smallest most fundamental particles nor the end of the universe. We have literally no real insight into the infinitely small or large and yet we feel we do understand them. So yes I do make arguments from ignorance because I understand in many ways I am ignorant. The first step to solving a problem is admitting there is one.

Personal bias is distinct from what is and is not observable. Personal bias makes transparency and careful design and execution of null experiments important checks. The argument from ignorance is that because we don't know many things we should distrust that for which we have accumulated good evidence. It is a logical fallacy.

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To be honest I agree with what you have said however as I said we can prove something by experiment and still be completely wrong.

Philosophers can argue about ultimate truth. Science is the expression of our best understanding of our surroundings at the time of the expression.

QuoteI think the most fundamental mistake relates to common sense which is so strange I'm not even sure I agree with myself,lol. For instance I drop a ball and I observe it fall, then I conclude all things heavier than air must fall then common sense tells me nothing heavier than air could possibly fly.

Well then you would have drawn a generalization based on ignoring those winged things chirping outside the window.

QuoteThis is the process our mind uses to rationalize things, this is how our mind works. We make observations then try to rationalize how the observation relates to everything else. Generally speaking the observation is biased because it is based on relationships which may or may not exist derived from common sense. Then we see John Hutchison's floating bowling ball and all hell breaks loose.

Please don't tell me you take John Hutchison for anything other than the cheap faker that he has proven himself to be.

QuoteCommon sense tells us no, no,no this cannot be because I dropped a ball and it fell, we all dropped a ball and it fell.

John Hutchison has used a series of cheap, and I emphasize cheap photographic tricks, up to and including suspending props with threads. Ed Wood would have loved him.

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In any case you are perfectly correct and everything you have said is reasonable and logical. It all works perfectly well right up to that single moment when it doesn't... that's the part I'm interested in.

That's great. Now all you have to do is get to that moment. Professor Sheehan who pursues the thankless task of looking for exceptions to the Second Law rightly says that the Second Law always works ... until it doesn't. Until and if such a moment occurs, it remains a law.

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AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on December 02, 2014, 11:25:02 AM

@Mark E

QuoteThe DWFTW device is an example of where specialized expertise trumped intuition. The proponent is a specialist in aerodynamics. He had a novel and unintuitive idea, and proved that idea first on paper and then in real life. I don't know anyone who has examined the math presented or the demonstrations and claimed that they were wrong.

I would agree however you missed my point and it should be noted that the inventors were attacked and condemned on a scale few can even imagine. The video's went viral overnight and most all the supposed experts claimed it was a fake and the inventors frauds. In fact it was noted by many students that their professor's refused to even look at the technology. I found the psychology of the responses much more interesting than the actual technology. I have to wonder how many here claimed they were frauds?.

QuoteNo one operates without bias. That's why the scientific method is so important.

I hope you do not mean the scientific method where a recent study found 47% of scientists admitted to altering or knowing someone who altered their data to suit their own best interests.To be honest even I was shocked at the magnitude of the problem. You see science always involves people and as much as some would have us believe science can stand on it's own we know it cannot. Science is biased because people are biased, they are inseparable.

QuotePlease don't tell me you take John Hutchison for anything other than the cheap faker that he has proven himself to be.

To be honest I do not know however I do know myself and another person once observed an unidentified flying object do impossible things. A massive object hovered in place making no sound and another smaller object left the first making a wide sweeping 90 Deg turn then accelerated to astronomical speeds leaving earths atmosphere, no sound, no plume from the rear and no vapor trail. As such John Hutchison levitating a bowling ball would seem rather trivial don't you think?.
You see once a person has seen the impossible first hand as a fact which defies all known science the standard scientific diatribe regurgitated by most becomes a mute point. It becomes almost comical that there could be such a complete disconnect between an observed fact and others opinions.

I thought about my observation a great deal and came to the conclusion much of science is about opinions not facts. You see I know what I observed however I have no proof thus my claim must automatically be rejected by everyone else. So what were really saying is the facts in themselves do not matter in any way unless I can prove them to you personally. You cannot and will not believe a word I have to say regardless of the real facts I know until you personally have the proof you need in hand. So we should be clear that science and facts are always relative to the observer.

It is a strange thing is it not?, why I could have a free energy device operating right in front of me as I type this response to you and you being many hundreds of miles away may have the opinion that the very thing operating right in front of me is in fact impossible. Which raises the question, do your personal opinions make my reality any less true or factual?, well of course not that's just silly.

AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 02, 2014, 11:38:12 AM

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 02, 2014, 12:17:03 PM

Quote from: allcanadian on December 02, 2014, 11:25:02 AM
@Mark E

I would agree however you missed my point and it should be noted that the inventors were attacked and condemned on a scale few can even imagine. The video's went viral overnight and most all the supposed experts claimed it was a fake and the inventors frauds.

I saw discussion of this several places and I know that I didn't see how it could work at first either. I think I read an article on it before they ran their trials. In some matters the truth is not intuitive.

QuoteIn fact it was noted by many students that their professor's refused to even look at the technology.

I would say claims and not technology at the time as the dispute was whether the claims were correct or not. When I first heard about this thing it was from an article where the proponents made it very clear that it works because the wheels drive the prop. Shame on professors who didn't pay attention to that. Maybe it gave them a dose of humility.

QuoteI found the psychology of the responses much more interesting than the actual technology. I have to wonder how many here claimed they were frauds?.

Can't you search and find out?

Quote

I hope you do not mean the scientific method where a recent study found 47% of scientists admitted to altering or knowing someone who altered their data to suit their own best interests.

Someone's title does not define how they actually conduct themselves. If nearly half of scientists are committing academic fraud, then that is a big problem.

QuoteTo be honest even I was shocked at the magnitude of the problem. You see science always involves people and as much as some would have us believe science can stand on it's own we know it cannot.

Science does stand on its own. It is science embodied by exercise of the scientific method that has outed academic frauds that I know about.

QuoteScience is biased because people are biased, they are inseparable.

Individual claims and reports are biased. The scientific method does a very remarkable job of eliminating bias.

Quote

To be honest I do not know however I do know myself and another person once observed an unidentified flying object do impossible things. A massive object hovered in place making no sound and another smaller object left the first making a wide sweeping 90 Deg turn then accelerated to astronomical speeds leaving earths atmosphere, no sound, no plume from the rear and no vapor trail. As such John Hutchison levitating a bowling ball would seem rather trivial don't you think?.

Our senses are very flawed. We are easily fooled. John Hutchison has never conducted a clean experiment. He is no representation of legitimate science or engineering. He is an example of the kind of deliberate fraud that clean experiments expose.

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You see once a person has seen the impossible first hand as a fact which defies all known science the standard scientific diatribe regurgitated by most becomes a mute point. It becomes almost comical that there could be such a complete disconnect between an observed fact and others opinions.

Once again, as you note any individual carries their own biases and limited perceptions. If one wants to get to the truth one needs to design experiments that are immune to those biases and limited perceptions.

Quote

I thought about my observation a great deal and came to the conclusion much of science is about opinions not facts.

No, many people do not follow the scientific method, and/or commit fallacies such as asserting authority. Reliably obtained data always tells the real story.

QuoteYou see I know what I observed however I have no proof thus my claim must automatically be rejected by everyone else.

Not really. The problem is that you report a set of observations that are extraordinary and cannot be tested. As such, at best they can be noted. They lack foundation for acceptance.

QuoteSo what were really saying is the facts in themselves do not matter in any way unless I can prove them to you personally.

The problem here is that you are assuming that what you perceived is fact when you know: 1) Perceptions are not reliable, and 2) Your perceptions require extraordinary conclusions that contradict present understanding. That makes the chances of your perceptions being correct quite low. In order to pursue the matter a means of gathering defining data reliably would have to be devised.

QuoteYou cannot and will not believe a word I have to say regardless of the real facts I know until you personally have the proof you need in hand.

I go with what the evidence says. If you or anyone else reports something extraordinary then the only way to validate such an observation is with reliable data.

QuoteSo we should be clear that science and facts are always relative to the observer.

Absolutely not for the reasons explained above. The scientific method among other things takes the singular out of observer.

Quote

It is a strange thing is it not?, why I could have a free energy device operating right in front of me as I type this response to you and you being many hundreds of miles away may have the opinion that the very thing operating right in front of me is in fact impossible.

Your ability to convince rational people of an extraordinary claim comes down to your ability to produce reliable evidence for that claim.

QuoteWhich raises the question, do your personal opinions make my reality any less true or factual?, well of course not that's just silly.

Opinion does not define reality. That is one of the reasons I chuckle every time some promoter of magic says the magic won't work because of skepticism.

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AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on December 02, 2014, 07:33:43 PM

@Mark E
You know you have written some pretty awesome responses, better than most I have read in a very long time and I mean that sincerely.

I could do this all day and I enjoy the banter, the exploration, however I imagine our little debate is hogging this thread. I wish you could have been right next to me when I made my unidentified flying object observation because for as long as I can remember everyone I know comes to me for answers but in this case I have none. I mean I have decades of experience and research into aerodynamics and I have no problem with any questions concerning it but in this case I have nothing and for me that is a big problem.

In any case we should let this go so the people here can continue their debate on energy amplification. I really did enjoy our debate and if you want to continue elsewhere just PM me and I would be happy to continue.

For the record I nailed the down wind faster than the wind concept within 15 min of reading the first article, just saying lol.

Best Regards
AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on December 03, 2014, 03:14:05 PM

"..First one wants to laugh for about two hours at how truly ignorant we've all been. Then one wants to cry for about two hours for the same reason. This could all have been done a century ago, if we had ever really understood electromagnetics..." ;) ;) ;)
sorry, could not resist ... ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 04, 2014, 07:49:41 AM

Pnp and npn transistors are not interchangeable not because of the switch but because of the internal diode.
Two coils beating as one passing energy back and forth.
The diode cannot be between the coils it dampens the transfer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 04, 2014, 11:12:37 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 04, 2014, 07:49:41 AM
Pnp and npn transistors are not interchangeable not because of the switch but because of the internal diode.
Two coils beating as one passing energy back and forth.
The diode cannot be between the coils it dampens the transfer.

PNP and NPN transistors are different devices. To a first approximation for switching circuits a common emitter circuit using one can be substituted for a common collector of the other and vice versa provided that the driver circuit is changed appropriately. Because NPN transistors and N-channel MOSFETs are easier to make than PNP and P-channel devices there are many power devices that use only NPN transistors or N-Channel FETs for both the high and low side switches. These devices have to develop bias voltages above the supply rail to drive the high side N-channel MOSFET gates.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 05, 2014, 07:02:19 AM

A neg electron flow creates a pos current flow
The bemf from L1 is pos will the bemf from L2 be neg.
Notice there is no electron path from the battery allowed to enter the load loop.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 05, 2014, 08:03:10 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 05, 2014, 07:02:19 AM
A neg electron flow creates a pos current flow
The bemf from L1 is pos will the bemf from L2 be neg.
Notice there is no electron path from the battery allowed to enter the load loop.

Dave once again: When you interrupt the current path to an inductor, the inductor terminal voltage will flyback in a direction that tries to maintain the current flow. If no path is available then the voltage rise is limited only by the parasitics: particularly capacitance until the rising voltage breaks down insulation or the switching device. You have drawn yet another circuit where one inductor switches into another. Depending on how fast the transistor turns off and the inductor values, the transistor will be destroyed by overvoltage stress.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 05, 2014, 08:41:42 AM

D1 provides the alternative path, which is also an indication of the polarity of the bemf from L2

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 05, 2014, 08:44:52 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 05, 2014, 08:41:42 AM
D1 provides the alternative path, which is also an indication of the polarity of the bemf from L2

Dave, no these circuits will not work unless you turn the transistors off very slowly. You can download a free SPICE simulator: LTSPICE from Linear Technology. If you download that and learn to use it, then you can play with any ideas that you want and see what will really happen.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 05, 2014, 09:04:02 AM

The only alternative is to flip D1 which would indicate that the current has reversed which doesnt happen.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 05, 2014, 11:45:33 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 05, 2014, 09:04:02 AM
The only alternative is to flip D1 which would indicate that the current has reversed which doesnt happen.

Dave, I don't know what logic drives you to believe that either circuit is useful.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 05, 2014, 08:03:30 PM

:) The point of the exercise was to determine the polarity of the bemf of L2
If the bemf of L2 is neg then it will help drive L1
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/4-02-2014/ySzksZ.gif

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 05, 2014, 08:53:20 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 05, 2014, 08:03:30 PM
:) The point of the exercise was to determine the polarity of the bemf of L2
If the bemf of L2 is neg then it will help drive L1
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/4-02-2014/ySzksZ.gif

Dave pay close attention to the differences between that circuit and the ones that you have presented.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 06, 2014, 06:56:14 AM

I believe this was Akula's 80 watt circuit.
He was using D2 to charge the neg side of C1 C2 C3 and C4
He was using VT5 to charge the top of C1 pos which was a direct short, well not completely it ran through R7

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 06, 2014, 07:02:22 AM

Using the pos to attract the neg
The difference here is I used D2 to run into the load
He was trying to make it self run
Im just trying to understand the principle-----------does L2 give a neg bemf? judging by the placement of the diodes D2 Akula thinks it does.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 06, 2014, 07:21:01 AM

I like the circuit I think it has potential
D1 needs to be moved, where it was it was dampening the osculations between the two coils.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 06, 2014, 07:28:48 AM

If L1 used fine wire and L2 was a heavier gauge there would be a higher voltage bemf hitting L2 but the fine wire in L1 would limit the current through the whole system, and heat up.
This is why I took L1 out of the load loop.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 06, 2014, 07:41:23 AM

This part of the circuit is classic boost converter topology.
Sorry I was busy with work during the week and didnt have time to discuss the circuits.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 06, 2014, 01:50:42 PM

Dave, here are two drawings that show what happens with uncoupled inductors as you have drawn, and the case of a flyback where the two inductors are tightly coupled. If your intention was to tightly couple L1 and L2, then if the dot orientations of the two coils were both on the left, you would have a flyback. D1 and the right hand capacitor would bias the circuit but play no real role in carrying current.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 07, 2014, 01:10:03 AM

Looks like the same conversation that was being had back in march... (search akula 80W, and find the beginning, search akula 30W as corrected a couple posts in... get real schematic)

Here's a really good resonant rise with storage into a cap and various ways to get the link back out.

There is no BEMF in the sense that the current reverses. there is BEMF (that would be the resistance to the rise in current; a body at rest stays at rest) there is FEMF (a body in motion wants to stay in motion)... but none of that is a reversal... but anway

Falstad sim (http://www.falstad.com/circuit/#%24+1+9.999999999999999E-6+0.15168967963882135+38+5.0+50%0Aw+784+272+752+272+0%0Aw+720+272+736+272+0%0As+736+272+752+272+0+0+false%0Aw+912+432+912+352+0%0As+912+320+912+352+0+0+false%0Aw+768+352+816+352+0%0As+768+384+816+384+0+0+false%0Aw+992+416+992+384+0%0As+1024+272+1024+304+0+0+false%0Aw+912+432+896+432+0%0As+848+432+896+432+0+0+false%0Aw+816+432+848+432+0%0Aw+720+400+768+384+0%0Aw+768+352+720+336+0%0A181+816+352+816+384+0+9176.036585441461+100.0+100.0+0.4+0.4%0As+720+336+720+304+0+0+false%0Ar+992+384+992+352+0+0.09%0Ar+736+448+816+432+0+0.1%0Aw+720+432+736+448+0%0Aw+944+352+992+352+0%0Aw+944+304+976+304+0%0Aw+944+352+944+304+0%0Aw+976+272+1024+272+0%0Aw+976+304+1024+304+0%0Aw+880+240+912+224+0%0Ag+992+416+992+448+0%0Aw+720+432+720+400+0%0Aw+720+272+720+288+0%0Aw+720+304+720+288+0%0Aw+832+272+880+240+0%0Aw+672+336+720+336+0%0Aw+608+432+608+400+0%0Aw+720+400+672+400+0%0Ac+912+224+912+272+0+0.01+464.6581752516135%0AT+608+336+672+400+0+1.0+1.0+26.732863222314606+-31.50482537169738+0.999%0AR+448+320+384+320+0+2+60.0+5.0+0.0+0.0+0.5%0Aw+976+272+912+224+0%0Aw+912+272+912+320+0%0Ad+784+272+832+272+1+0.805904783%0Ac+720+336+720+400+0+0.004+469.62917880254327%0Aw+608+432+608+448+0%0Ag+608+448+608+480+0%0Aw+912+224+1120+160+0%0Aw+912+272+1120+256+0%0As+1120+256+1120+224+0+0+false%0Ar+1120+160+1120+192+0+500.0%0Aw+1120+224+1120+192+0%0Aw+512+336+544+336+0%0Ac+608+336+544+336+0+0.032+-59.45274621132286%0Aw+608+400+544+400+0%0Ag+448+352+448+400+0%0AS+544+336+448+336+0+1+false+0%0Ao+33+64+1+35+40960.0+9.765625E-5+0+-1%0Ao+39+64+0+291+640.0+819.2+1+-1%0Ao+35+64+1+291+5120.0+9.765625E-5+2+-1%0Ao+30+64+0+291+1197.2621413014756+766.2477704329444+3+-1%0Ao+45+64+1+35+640.0+9.765625E-5+4+-1%0Ao+48+64+0+291+80.0+819.2+5+-1%0Ao+14+64+1+35+20480.0+9.765625E-5+6+-1%0Ao+27+64+0+291+1280.0+102.4+7+-1%0Ao+43+64+0+35+640.0+1.6+8+-1%0A)
(as always, uncheck conventional current, that doesn't save in URL; also can adjust simulation time step up to 150us (15* faster) cause the build ups are a little slow) Also, make sure to click reset to see beginning... the link actually saves the voltage states current at the time of export... so this is already in progress.

(was going to say; forget LTSpice; it's good for an expert, but for playing around can update with live changes the falstad sim and immediately see results on meters etc... Falstad is a much better experimenter tool; and think he's fixed a few OU circuit issues)

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There are 4 distinct regions, the resonant coil, the light bulb load (damping across the resonant tank), high impedance loads can go across the diode since the voltage peeks against the diode each cycle... power can also be taken off the storage capacitor.... but not all; the more you depelte that capacitor the less power you have available... better to take the power in the other places and storage immense wattage in the resonant tank.

(based off of Ruslan's last device post; and basically the same circuit I was asking about why negative power doesn't work... except I couldn't build that sim to work... )

If the circuit is allowed to build power, when closing the switches on the loads, can get out more power than input for quite a while.
and the power across the resistor on the caps is a straight DC output at a flat level greater than the input pulse max.
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the difference in power from 1V in a capacitor at 100V vs 1000V is 100X; This circuit is also a fixed current charging of the cap (in pulses, but always the same amount every pulse) and it's 20KW stored at 3.58KW input... (built up to about 468V)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 07, 2014, 04:03:01 AM

d3x0r

You seem to be experienced in Falstad sim. can you simulate the simplest flyback circuit MarkE posted ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 07, 2014, 06:57:45 AM

Quote from: forest on December 07, 2014, 04:03:01 AM
d3x0r

You seem to be experienced in Falstad sim. can you simulate the simplest flyback circuit MarkE posted ?

not sure what the white square is... I picked a bulb, but it won't turn on without leaving the switch closed a while.
Simple Flyback? (http://www.falstad.com/circuit/#%24+1+5.0E-6+10.20027730826997+50+5.0+50%0AT+304+112+368+208+0+4.0+1.0+0.0+8.216682519129881E-6+0.999%0Aw+304+208+304+240+0%0As+304+240+304+304+0+1+false%0Av+208+160+208+112+0+0+40.0+5.0+0.0+0.0+0.5%0Aw+208+112+304+112+0%0Aw+208+160+208+304+0%0Aw+208+304+304+304+0%0Ad+400+208+400+272+1+0.805904783%0Aw+368+208+400+208+0%0Aw+368+112+448+112+0%0Aw+448+112+448+160+0%0A181+448+160+448+224+0+300.02252166621975+100.0+120.0+0.4+0.4%0Aw+400+272+448+272+0%0Aw+448+224+448+272+0%0A)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on December 07, 2014, 08:15:11 AM

The white square seems to be a load in MarkE schemas, so your bulb must be a good substitute. Try to use a simple resistor instead to see whether it makes any difference.

EDIT just saw you used 4 Henry transformer coils, that is which needs time to charge up so you may wish to reduce it to the some ten mH range. Also the transformer needs a series resistor to represent wire resistance, to get more realistic sim results.

Sorry to chime in... 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 07, 2014, 08:38:57 AM

Quote from: gyulasun on December 07, 2014, 08:15:11 AM
The white square seems to be a load in MarkE schemas, so your bulb must be a good substitute. Try to use a simple resistor instead to see whether it makes any difference.

EDIT just saw you used 4 Henry transformer coils, that is which needs time to charge up so you may wish to reduce it to the some ten mH range. Also the transformer needs a series resistor to represent wire resistance, to get more realistic sim results.

Sorry to chime in... 8)

default resistors are key 'R' they start as 100ohm. Adding a '.' before to make .1 (100m) ohm works pretty good fore 'wire'
right default transformer is insane inductance :) but that puts it within the domain of 'takes some time to see changes occur' but ya, a smaller inudctance would conduct faster and spike faster... the bulb is 100W to start... charging for like 20 seconds (sim time) I got mW across the bulb... so maybe 100 ohm resistor instead... the LED (key 'L' )is a nice visual load too with current indicator

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 07, 2014, 09:06:24 AM

The collapse of the magnetic field into the coil is bemf. If you study the circuit from the electron flow perspective it appears as back emf but if studied from a conventional perspective it appears to be forward emf.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 07, 2014, 09:16:24 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 07, 2014, 09:06:24 AM
The collapse of the magnetic field into the coil is bemf. If you study the circuit from the electron flow perspective it appears as back emf but if studied from a conventional perspective it appears to be forward emf.

from either view the current remains the same and doesn't reverse. The collapse of the field maintains the forward inertia... the build of the field is what prevents the flow in the first place. The field collapse is what makes it work as a filter so well, because the current is mainted forward as it's allowed to collapse... if it spontaneously reversed then chokes would not work to filter noise, they would amplify the noise.

a voltage gradient is present, a current starts, a field builds, the current gets to it's max... when the current stops the field collapses and squeezes out the last bit of current the same direction that it got when the filed first started to build. Until the field is entirely collapsed the current cannot reverse.

unless you change your notation in the middle and talk about conventional current and electron current in the same breath there is no reversal of either paradigm itself; only when changing from one view to the other at whim.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 07, 2014, 09:59:11 AM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 07, 2014, 09:16:24 AM
from either view the current remains the same and doesn't reverse. The collapse of the field maintains the forward inertia... the build of the field is what prevents the flow in the first place. The field collapse is what makes it work as a filter so well, because the current is mainted forward as it's allowed to collapse... if it spontaneously reversed then chokes would not work to filter noise, they would amplify the noise.

a voltage gradient is present, a current starts, a field builds, the current gets to it's max... when the current stops the field collapses and squeezes out the last bit of current the same direction that it got when the filed first started to build. Until the field is entirely collapsed the current cannot reverse.

unless you change your notation in the middle and talk about conventional current and electron current in the same breath there is no reversal of either paradigm itself; only when changing from one view to the other at whim.

I agree :)

But what is not realized is current is a product of electron flow, current is not a product of the battery.
http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/PSU/psu31.php
The sim on this page explains it well, when the switch is on current flows through the inductor and load and into the battery, when the switch is off current circulates through the diode.
If current were a product of the battery it would not take the path through the diode but go directly to the neg terminal of the battery.
In order to understand why this happens you have to look at the circuit from an electron flow perspective then you see the electrons moving from neg to pos are cut off when the switch turns off and the electron takes the path through the diode, the electron is not attracted to ground so continues to circulate through the load , inductor and diode.
And as a result of electron flow current continues to circulate through the network, this simple circuit shows that current is a product of electron flow and not the battery.

What is interesting is that the electron is neg but the resulting current is pos.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 07, 2014, 10:19:17 AM

http://phys.org/news/2014-12-capacitors-electrical-circuits-large-scale-energy.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 07, 2014, 10:51:55 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 07, 2014, 09:59:11 AM
I agree :)

But what is not realized is current is a product of electron flow, current is not a product of the battery.
http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/PSU/psu31.php (http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/PSU/psu31.php)
The sim on this page explains it well, when the switch is on current flows through the inductor and load and into the battery, when the switch is off current circulates through the diode.
If current were a product of the battery it would not take the path through the diode but go directly to the neg terminal of the battery.
In order to understand why this happens you have to look at the circuit from an electron flow perspective then you see the electrons moving from neg to pos are cut off when the switch turns off and the electron takes the path through the diode, the electron is not attracted to ground so continues to circulate through the load , inductor and diode.
And as a result of electron flow current continues to circulate through the network, this simple circuit shows that current is a product of electron flow and not the battery.

What is interesting is that the electron is neg but the resulting current is pos.

Looking at the circuit using this logic this is the reaction of this circuit.
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/3-30-2014/X93gwp.gif
The black represents electron flow, the red represents the resulting current flow.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 07, 2014, 03:36:46 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 07, 2014, 09:59:11 AM
I agree :)

But what is not realized is current is a product of electron flow, current is not a product of the battery.
http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/PSU/psu31.php
The sim on this page explains it well, when the switch is on current flows through the inductor and load and into the battery, when the switch is off current circulates through the diode.
If current were a product of the battery it would not take the path through the diode but go directly to the neg terminal of the battery.
In order to understand why this happens you have to look at the circuit from an electron flow perspective then you see the electrons moving from neg to pos are cut off when the switch turns off and the electron takes the path through the diode, the electron is not attracted to ground so continues to circulate through the load , inductor and diode.
And as a result of electron flow current continues to circulate through the network, this simple circuit shows that current is a product of electron flow and not the battery.

What is interesting is that the electron is neg but the resulting current is pos.

Dave, think of an inductor as a flywheel: As the flywheel resists changes in speed, an inductor resists changes in current flow. The battery is a needed source of EMF in order to establish a current flow in the inductor. Once the current is established, the inductor resists increasing or decreasing that current. As the transistor turns off reducing the current through it, the inductor BEMF causes the voltage on the switched side of the inductor to swing away from the battery voltage that is on the other side of the transistor. The voltage keeps moving until the diode passes the balance of the inductor current no longer being carried by the transistor. The now reverse voltage across the inductor acts to reduce the current. When the transistor turns back on, the coil again resists changes in current, and the current only increases at a rate proportional to the voltage difference across the inductor: battery voltage to load voltage.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 07, 2014, 06:23:47 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 07, 2014, 09:59:11 AM
I agree :)

But what is not realized is current is a product of electron flow, current is not a product of the battery.
http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/PSU/psu31.php (http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/PSU/psu31.php)
The sim on this page explains it well, when the switch is on current flows through the inductor and load and into the battery, when the switch is off current circulates through the diode.

and the arrow that is drawn, in both pictures and the flow indicator in the animation the switch closed and switch open, the current in the coil is the same direction. with no reversal

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 07, 2014, 07:27:28 PM

Quote from: MarkE on December 07, 2014, 03:36:46 PM
Dave, think of an inductor as a flywheel: As the flywheel resists changes in speed, an inductor resists changes in current flow. The battery is a needed source of EMF in order to establish a current flow in the inductor. Once the current is established, the inductor resists increasing or decreasing that current. As the transistor turns off reducing the current through it, the inductor BEMF causes the voltage on the switched side of the inductor to swing away from the battery voltage that is on the other side of the transistor. The voltage keeps moving until the diode passes the balance of the inductor current no longer being carried by the transistor. The now reverse voltage across the inductor acts to reduce the current. When the transistor turns back on, the coil again resists changes in current, and the current only increases at a rate proportional to the voltage difference across the inductor: battery voltage to load voltage.

I guess one could look at it like that but I would rather understand whats really happening, its the rise and fall of the magnetic field.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 07, 2014, 07:45:53 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 07, 2014, 07:27:28 PM
I guess one could look at it like that but I would rather understand whats really happening, its the rise and fall of the magnetic field.

Dave viewing inductance as an analog to inertial mass produces accurate results. What's really happening is that magnetic fields resist change in flux density: B just as inertial mass resists changes in velocity. The differential equations that apply to both are identical.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 07, 2014, 08:39:13 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 07, 2014, 07:27:28 PM
I guess one could look at it like that but I would rather understand whats really happening, its the rise and fall of the magnetic field.

spin up and spin down of the gyroscopic mass (wheel)

a small capacitance like a open switch or a blocking diode that prevents the flow will have a small current storage, but increase the voltage rapidly... like a short strong spring catching the wheel... which has 100% (resilience?) ... which store all the energy and then dump it back into the wheel in a new acceleration... Yes; at this point current reverses... but that's after the field has totally collapsed (wheel stopped)
a large capacitance like a capacitor of any size more than a wire; lots of current will continue to flow but the overall voltage will be low...

I guess the spring K constant is more related to a power... when I started to mention voltage and current it started to fall apart but it doesn't matter cause the product is the same.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dvy1214 on December 07, 2014, 11:11:53 PM

Quote from: d3x0r on December 07, 2014, 08:39:13 PM
spin up and spin down of the gyroscopic mass (wheel)

a small capacitance like a open switch or a blocking diode that prevents the flow will have a small current storage, but increase the voltage rapidly... like a short strong spring catching the wheel... which has 100% (resilience?) ... which store all the energy and then dump it back into the wheel in a new acceleration... Yes; at this point current reverses... but that's after the field has totally collapsed (wheel stopped)
a large capacitance like a capacitor of any size more than a wire; lots of current will continue to flow but the overall voltage will be low...

I guess the spring K constant is more related to a power... when I started to mention voltage and current it started to fall apart but it doesn't matter cause the product is the same.

Misunderstanding of these facts is exactly why there are people who think a Don Smith/Kampandze or even a mechanical analog in the Chas Campbell can actually produce watts. In reality the Don Smith/Kampandze are just capable of being very efficient transformers. I don't believe either of those individuals are seamstress btw i just think they are deluded.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dvy1214 on December 07, 2014, 11:12:24 PM

*Scamsters

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on December 07, 2014, 11:16:11 PM

Quote from: dvy1214 on December 07, 2014, 11:11:53 PM
Misunderstanding of these facts is exactly why there are people who think a Don Smith/Kampandze or even a mechanical analog in the Chas Campbell can actually produce watts. In reality the Don Smith/Kampandze are just capable of being very efficient transformers. I don't believe either of those individuals are seamstress btw i just think they are deluded.

then please illustrate where the math fails to be an analog. Certainly willing to disregard such parallels if they were proven invalid.
Or are you concuring with me, in trying to correct the actual erroneous understandings?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dvy1214 on December 07, 2014, 11:22:36 PM

I am concurring with you! All I am saying is that most people have a hard time visualizing what you have explained.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 08, 2014, 08:06:55 PM

https://www.google.com/patents/US3879622

From Figuera thread for Tito et all.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on December 08, 2014, 11:53:40 PM

- james Roney's video

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OobiPEZN6vQ

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiI22CdBbv4

- http://www.overunity.org.uk/CLaNZeRPlayingwithMUMetal1.wmv

- Hard Disk Drive Magnets polarity, http://www.reuk.co.uk/Hard-Disk-Drive-Magnets-For-Wind-Turbines.htm

what is the sticky spot ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 09, 2014, 12:18:32 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL4B_DNBtvc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL4B_DNBtvc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhY7hHb2l6o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhY7hHb2l6o)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaPlt2H9ltw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaPlt2H9ltw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEnQw2Wt7w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEnQw2Wt7w) ;) that's it ! i salute you Xee2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UJZ9hDQnyA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UJZ9hDQnyA) ya i undertood it though i don't understand you buddy ;) ;D
and that's obviously simple.
what do you think Bill?
or am i going to think again my electricity Bill? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 09, 2014, 12:34:48 AM

Quote from: Marsing on December 08, 2014, 11:53:40 PM
- james Roney's video

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OobiPEZN6vQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OobiPEZN6vQ)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiI22CdBbv4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiI22CdBbv4)

- http://www.overunity.org.uk/CLaNZeRPlayingwithMUMetal1.wmv (http://www.overunity.org.uk/CLaNZeRPlayingwithMUMetal1.wmv)

- Hard Disk Drive polarity, http://www.reuk.co.uk/Hard-Disk-Drive-Magnets-For-Wind-Turbines.htm (http://www.reuk.co.uk/Hard-Disk-Drive-Magnets-For-Wind-Turbines.htm)

what is the sticky spot ?

The point of sticky point ;D :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on December 09, 2014, 12:49:06 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 09, 2014, 12:34:48 AM

The point of sticky point ;D :o

Ok, well, hmmm, wow, lol, ;D , do you see the light ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 10, 2014, 09:59:24 PM

Quote from: Marsing on December 09, 2014, 12:49:06 AM
Ok, well, hmmm, wow, lol, ;D , do you see the light ?

..
8) what do you think? ;D

hi everyone, the link i am pasting from youtube is automatically being change into other link, Great idea! ;D

Who did it! >:( stepfan please help!!!

youtube.com/watch?v=JtEozrfPeTs = FREE ENERGY INVERTER?-YOU DECIDE ;) 8) :o ;D

ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtEozrfPeTs OR JUST add h AT THE BEGINNING OF THE https to access it ;)
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNCgPWagn1s Again add h at the http to access it. ;)
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sAheagkIDQ here's more everyone ;)
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuV2XYPeq-8 heres more ;)

see, one source then lots of lights, very simple. ;D

hahahahahahahhahahahahha what a clever idea. ;D
This is actually the half idea of tesla in his magnifying transmitter.

THERE I SEE THE LIGHT AND IT WAS GOOD. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 15, 2014, 07:50:52 AM

Where do the electrons come from in a generator ???
iron
As the magnet passes the core it creates eddy currents in the cutouts, exactly where the wires are wound.
This could be done in a solenoid type coil using washers three small washers then a large washer three small then another large ect ect this would create cutouts for eddy currents.
secondary's wound in the cutouts primary wound over the top.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 15, 2014, 08:49:57 AM

I guess the washers probably would not work the currents would run in the washers.
Has anyone tried cutting lamination's on a lathe.
The lamination's need to run with the magnetic field with cutouts across the lamination.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 15, 2014, 10:17:34 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 15, 2014, 08:49:57 AM
I guess the washers probably would not work the currents would run in the washers.
Has anyone tried cutting lamination's on a lathe.
The lamination's need to run with the magnetic field with cutouts across the lamination.

Laminations are typically stamped out of sheet metal, and then coated. If you need something special and the machining time and cost are not an issue you could mill sheet metal stock then debur and coat.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 15, 2014, 12:22:56 PM

It could be done with washers cut in quarters and stacked, might be a long process.
After thinking on it halves would work as long as the path is broken.
Cut em, debur em, spray em, bake em, stack em offset, full washer on each end with bolt through the middle tighten them up,done. solenoid gen core

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 16, 2014, 12:34:00 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 15, 2014, 12:22:56 PM
It could be done with washers cut in quarters and stacked, might be a long process.
After thinking on it halves would work as long as the path is broken.
Cut em, debur em, spray em, bake em, stack em offset, full washer on each end with bolt through the middle tighten them up,done. solenoid gen core

That's good idea dave. :D

You made me to think more with this. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 16, 2014, 06:50:18 AM

Im going to start collecting rust.
Rust may be our friend, we need a source of electrons.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 16, 2014, 07:13:20 AM

I missed a step in the process.
Cut em, debur em,lay them out and get a good even coat of rust, spray em, bake em, stack em offset, full washer on each end with bolt through the middle tighten them up,done.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 16, 2014, 07:30:35 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 16, 2014, 07:13:20 AM
I missed a step in the process.
Cut em, debur em,lay them out and get a good even coat of rust, spray em, bake em, stack em offset, full washer on each end with bolt through the middle tighten them up,done.

Rust is not a good thing. If you can buy a roll of 2mil Kapton(tm) tape wide enough to cover each piece. Then lay down a layer of tape on one side of each piece, trim, and assemble.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 16, 2014, 11:14:33 AM

Hey Mark thanks for the head up on the tape.
Kinda pricey http://www.mediasupply.com/kapton-tape-for-3d-printer.html?gclid=CMf8mcDQysICFc1_MgodoggAWg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 16, 2014, 10:45:11 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 16, 2014, 11:14:33 AM
Hey Mark thanks for the head up on the tape.
Kinda pricey http://www.mediasupply.com/kapton-tape-for-3d-printer.html?gclid=CMf8mcDQysICFc1_MgodoggAWg

The stuff isn't cheap but unless you have a way to apply very even and thin enamel it is about the best option.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 17, 2014, 06:27:41 AM

Early bird gets the worm

Ever had an oh $hit moment ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 17, 2014, 11:00:50 AM

Lets say I have 12v 15amps dc and I want to send 2 amps back to charge a battery how do I do that, without going through a resistor.
I want to limit the amps going to the battery.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 23, 2014, 06:52:29 AM

;) Low pressure systems in the US rotate counter clockwise.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 23, 2014, 07:25:24 AM

Is it time?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 23, 2014, 11:00:24 AM

Tito: 3 wires.
How's the class doing??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WPpRjSSnAw&list=LL6ZPiUObgaWAyeV3SmUH3mg&index=7

Merry Christmas Tito.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 25, 2014, 01:48:00 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 23, 2014, 11:00:24 AM
Tito: 3 wires.
How's the class doing??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WPpRjSSnAw&list=LL6ZPiUObgaWAyeV3SmUH3mg&index=7 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WPpRjSSnAw&list=LL6ZPiUObgaWAyeV3SmUH3mg&index=7)

Merry Christmas Tito.

MERRY CHRISTMASS TOO BUD. AND TO EVERYONE TOO.
ALWAYS REMEMBER WITHOUT CHRIST THERE IS NO CHRISTMASS, A VERY SIMPLE THING TO KNOW THAT EVERYONE FORGETS WHO IS THE ONE BEING CELEBRATING. ISN'T IT SANTA? ;D

i think the class doing nothing ;D

About the three wires: the driving wire should be separated from other core of the secondary and tertiary to lessen the friction or the resistance.
so that what ever you do to other core the primary is not affected. in that sense we can make a lot of energy, and just join everything in the final or whatever you want ;)

ottoits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on December 25, 2014, 03:37:39 AM

So, Tito, what was your electric bill for last month? Zero, right? I mean, with all the free energy you know how to make, surely you don't need to buy any from your national grid, or put fuel in a genset, or clean the snow off your solar PV array. Right?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 25, 2014, 06:50:51 AM

So would you say eddy currents within a core are random or do they adhere to a pattern.
Merry Christmas everyone :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 25, 2014, 08:57:20 AM

How much research has been done using DC, sympathetic fields no pulsing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on December 25, 2014, 11:23:03 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 25, 2014, 06:50:51 AM
So would you say eddy currents within a core are random or do they adhere to a pattern.
Merry Christmas everyone :)

Not random at all.

http://www.mytech-info.com/2014/08/hysteresis-losses-eddy-current-losses.html (http://www.mytech-info.com/2014/08/hysteresis-losses-eddy-current-losses.html)
http://www.rfcafe.com/references/popular-electronics/transformer-october-1960-popular-electronics.htm (http://www.rfcafe.com/references/popular-electronics/transformer-october-1960-popular-electronics.htm)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on December 25, 2014, 11:24:19 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 25, 2014, 08:57:20 AM
How much research has been done using DC, sympathetic fields no pulsing.

What do you mean by "sympathetic fields" ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 25, 2014, 12:04:25 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 25, 2014, 11:23:03 AM
Not random at all.

http://www.mytech-info.com/2014/08/hysteresis-losses-eddy-current-losses.html (http://www.mytech-info.com/2014/08/hysteresis-losses-eddy-current-losses.html)
http://www.rfcafe.com/references/popular-electronics/transformer-october-1960-popular-electronics.htm (http://www.rfcafe.com/references/popular-electronics/transformer-october-1960-popular-electronics.htm)

Or you could try these non-random eddy currents..............

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 25, 2014, 12:32:35 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 25, 2014, 12:04:25 PM

Or you could try these non-random eddy currents..............

Magnetics that exhibit little coupling from one port to another are inherently inefficient.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 25, 2014, 02:25:32 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 25, 2014, 11:24:19 AM
What do you mean by "sympathetic fields" ?

Fields that aid

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 25, 2014, 03:30:43 PM

Aiding

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on December 25, 2014, 04:08:44 PM

I asked what you meant by "sympathetic".

Quote from: Dave45 on December 25, 2014, 03:30:43 PM
Aiding

OK, fine, good enough. It's not a word I would have used but I suppose it works for you. The idea of "sympathetic" evokes for me some kind of coupling in an AC system rather than the reinforcing fields of a DC system though.

That last diagram, by the way, is just the way I'll be making some coils for the levitation project, except the center coil probably will be independent rather than wired in series with the outer coils as you have it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 25, 2014, 04:47:19 PM

Id bet it would make a great electromagnet.
Im gonna play around with it soon.
Busy with Family today :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 26, 2014, 04:18:19 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 25, 2014, 04:08:44 PM[/font]I asked what you meant by "sympathetic".OK, fine, good enough. It's not a word I would have used but I suppose it works for you. The idea of "sympathetic" evokes for me some kind of coupling in an AC system rather than the reinforcing fields of a DC system though. That last diagram, by the way, is just the way I'll be making some coils for the levitation project, except the center coil probably will be independent rather than wired in series with the outer coils as you have it.

[/font]

Is the NWO allowing electrogravitics into the public domain now? Whatever next?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 26, 2014, 04:40:52 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 26, 2014, 04:18:19 AM

Is the NWO allowing electrogravitics into the public domain now? Whatever next?

What means have the NWO ever used to keep electrogravitics from the public domain? Please be as specific as possible.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on December 26, 2014, 07:08:22 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 26, 2014, 04:18:19 AM

Is the NWO allowing electrogravitics into the public domain now? Whatever next?

What makes you think that electromagnetic levitation has anything to do with electrogravitics, I wonder?

Does this demonstration indicate an electrogravitic interaction? Have I just discovered AA (Arduino Antigravity)? I guess I had better call up NASA right after breakfast and let them know, before the NWO boogiemen start crawling out of the woodwork to steal my notes, destroy my prototypes and delete my YT channel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkiGTWODERo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkiGTWODERo)

(Don't let yourself be fooled. It should be obvious to you that what is _really_ happening in the video is that I am balancing the black ball on top of the light beam crossing underneath it, which is so thick and solid it can hold up the ball.)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 26, 2014, 08:12:01 AM

Smaller diameter coils would have a higher frequency than a larger diameter coil.
Im not thinking magnetic here although the magnetics are coupled, but look at the A vector field and its frequency can it be used to spin up a larger coil.
Would the air core give up its field to the ferrite, the outer coils are repelled from each other but are attracted to the center coil.
Its interesting thinking about fields spinning up fields, we have pulsed coils every way that can be thought of, AC, pulsed DC maybe its time for a different approach.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 26, 2014, 09:15:35 AM

Something I notice when freezing coils, the field that was present around the outside of the air core coil disappeared when the core was ferrous, the ferrous core pulled the field in around the core, concentrated the field.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 26, 2014, 11:30:35 AM

mock up

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 26, 2014, 12:03:24 PM

Look at the size of this thing http://phys.org/news/2014-12-faster-than-light-particles.html
notice the geometry

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 26, 2014, 12:16:36 PM

Everything has a meaning

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 26, 2014, 10:30:38 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 25, 2014, 03:37:39 AM
So, Tito, what was your electric bill for last month? Zero, right? I mean, with all the free energy you know how to make, surely you don't need to buy any from your national grid, or put fuel in a genset, or clean the snow off your solar PV array. Right?

So what's you're plan then ? :D ;D

There is actually i discover something about discharging a cap in a coil in one direction and that's amazing.

@ dave
That's good but we need to separate them to prohibit the mutual contact. ;)

@tototits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 27, 2014, 07:03:56 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 25, 2014, 01:48:00 AM

MERRY CHRISTMASS TOO BUD. AND TO EVERYONE TOO.
ALWAYS REMEMBER WITHOUT CHRIST THERE IS NO CHRISTMASS, A VERY SIMPLE THING TO KNOW THAT EVERYONE FORGETS WHO IS THE ONE BEING CELEBRATING. ISN'T IT SANTA? ;D

i think the class doing nothing ;D

About the three wires: the driving wire should be separated from other core of the secondary and tertiary to lessen the friction or the resistance.
so that what ever you do to other core the primary is not affected. in that sense we can make a lot of energy, and just join everything in the final or whatever you want ;)

ottoits ;D

Tito: Do you mean by transmitting and receiving?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 27, 2014, 04:51:52 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 26, 2014, 10:30:38 PM
There is actually i discover something about discharging a cap in a coil in one direction and that's amazing.
@ dave
That's good but we need to separate them to prohibit the mutual contact. ;)
@tototits ;D

This is central to Teets' device, I believe: discharging a cap into a coil in one direction. For me, this means that he's discharging from the cap, through a diode (to ensure charge movement in a single direction) and then into the coil.
Remember what Teets said about closing one door, and how it caused the other door to a room to open, and applying this analogy to the charge-discharge in his setup. This may mean that the cap becomes conditioned so that as it discharges (push), it is also drawing in charge from the ambient through the antenna part of the setup (pull). The antenna is essentially (I believe) the virtual positive); the trick is to keep the circuit open, with a virtual ground, as Teets mentioned using Moray's virtual ground as an example. In this way, the dipole is not destroyed.

With this understanding in mind (I hope I'm on the right track), perhaps it sheds some light on Teets' following recent statement:

QuoteAbout the three wires: the driving wire should be separated from other core of the secondary and tertiary to lessen the friction or the resistance.
so that what ever you do to other core the primary is not affected. in that sense we can make a lot of energy, and just join everything in the final or whatever you want ;)

Here, I'm assuming the driving wire is the coil that gets the one-directional discharge from the cap. The rest we can discuss.
Merry Christmas Teets!
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on December 27, 2014, 06:31:56 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 26, 2014, 10:30:38 PM

So what's you're plan then ? :D ;D

There is actually i discover something about discharging a cap in a coil in one direction and that's amazing.

@ dave
That's good but we need to separate them to prohibit the mutual contact. ;)

@tototits ;D

My plan is to keep asking you to prove that you actually know how to make "free energy" until you either prove it, or admit that you can't. How can you pretend to teach other people how to do something that you don't know how to do yourself? That's what I don't understand about you, Tito.

Where do you get your own electric power from? Will you answer that question honestly? Please?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on December 28, 2014, 05:12:49 AM

This thread is really interesting from the psychological point of view.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 28, 2014, 08:49:43 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 27, 2014, 06:31:56 PM
My plan is to keep asking you to prove that you actually know how to make "free energy" until you either prove it, or admit that you can't. How can you pretend to teach other people how to do something that you don't know how to do yourself? That's what I don't understand about you, Tito.

Where do you get your own electric power from? Will you answer that question honestly? Please?

You know what buddy, i am one of your avid fan actually, i believe in many post you've done in this site. :) ;)

my plan like what i said, i just want many people to learn the obvious things in free energy. :)
like for example : can we not charge in an instant in parallel more than 2 caps?, then discharge it very very fast in a separate series connection in a (cascade coil) and produce lots of energy?. is that very hard to make buddy?, and that is very obvious that we can produce lots of excess of energy isn't it?.
do you know the reason why very very fast?. now, that is overkill. :D

How come you know i am is pretending?, :o don't believe me if you want, cause no one is forcing you ok?, why somebody believe me. i don't understand. am i fooling them?, you give me my post where i am is fooling everyone. >:(
And how come you know i don't know, are you god? :o
And that is what is i don't understand you also. presuming something without knowing something. hahahhahahahha ;D
i salute you sir you're brilliant ;D

@eteits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 28, 2014, 08:53:03 PM

Quote from: bboj on December 28, 2014, 05:12:49 AM
This thread is really interesting from the psychological point of view.

ya, you're right there are lots of psychopatic RYUMATIC here. ooops wrong spelling? ;D ;D ;D

by otoink ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 28, 2014, 09:00:39 PM

ok! heres another tip:

recently i just realized that AVR are more chief than inverters and we can buy at least 5k watts of those.

and it says there that we just need to produce at least 160 - 250 volts of energy to make it run.

Now!, i prefer it producing only 160 volts to make its regulating power to work. isn't it?. 8) and its automatic jetmatic mucolytic ryumatic. ;D
hope for the best everyone. ;)

atiots ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 28, 2014, 10:14:49 PM

THE IMPORTANT IS!: HOW CAN YOU MAKE A VERY BIG DISTURBANCE IN COIL.

RING IT! RING! RING! RING! BANG! BANG! BANG ! THEN EXPLODE! KABOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM ;D

TESLA KOALA HUL LALA ;D

@TITOLA MANOK ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 28, 2014, 10:35:30 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 28, 2014, 09:00:39 PM
ok! heres another tip:

recently i just realized that AVR are more chief than inverters and we can buy at least 5k watts of those.

and it says there that we just need to produce at least 160 - 250 volts of energy to make it run.

Now!, i prefer it producing only 160 volts to make its regulating power to work. isn't it?. 8) and its automatic jetmatic mucolytic ryumatic. ;D
hope for the best everyone. ;)

atiots ;D

Hey Teets

What is an AVR? https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0SO8zFHyqBU0uAAc6RXNyoA?p=avr&fr=yfp-t-901&fr2=piv-web ???

This? http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/apa2001/product-detailAbemXOYVCnWv/China-Voltage-Reguator-AVR-3000S-.html ????

Magnut

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Marsing on December 28, 2014, 10:38:02 PM

Hi,

are there any part number for P-chan FET similar at work range of n-chan 2sk170 , irf 640/irf540.

thanks.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2014, 08:12:33 AM

Quote from: Marsing on December 28, 2014, 10:38:02 PM
Hi,

are there any part number for P-chan FET similar at work range of n-chan 2sk170 , irf 640/irf540.

thanks.

Search for complimentary pairs.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on December 29, 2014, 09:59:34 AM

Quote from: Marsing on December 28, 2014, 10:38:02 PM
Hi,

are there any part number for P-chan FET similar at work range of n-chan 2sk170 , irf 640/irf540.

thanks.

For the 2SK170 (low noise audio, with relatively high transconductance) a possible p-channel device may be the third member of the 2N5460-62 series, the 2N5462, see data sheet for the latter: http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/253905.pdf

For the IRF540 (30A/100V), a p-channel device may be the IRF5210 (40A/100V) or IRF9540 (23A/100V)
For the IRF640 (18A/200V), a p-channel device may be IRF9640 (11A/200V) or IRF9240 (12A/200V).

IF you study the site of digikey.com you can list power MOSFETs by parameters, I used another simpler vendor: http://www.futurlec.com/TransMosIRF.shtml

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that-prophet on December 29, 2014, 10:15:34 AM

free energy is super simple
you put DC power into a motor with a 100cm circumference pulley on it
you attach a belt, strap, rope or even a string in a pinch
and then attach at least one AC motor to a 1cm pulley on the same belt
you run the AC output through a full wave bridge rectifier to self power...
your DC input motor,,,,
then you have just created your first free energy electricity multiplier
satan will try to complain about torque, but it is no problem, just think about how easily an electric motor rotates,,, you could have 10 - 100 AC motors attached, multiplying your input by 1000 - 10 000.. now dont you think this much input power could turn your input DC motor

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 29, 2014, 12:30:19 PM

Quote from: that-prophet on December 29, 2014, 10:15:34 AM
free energy is super simple
you put DC power into a motor with a 100cm circumference pulley on it
you attach a belt, strap, rope or even a string in a pinch
and then attach at least one AC motor to a 1cm pulley on the same belt
you run the AC output through a full wave bridge rectifier to self power...
your DC input motor,,,,
then you have just created your first free energy electricity multiplier
satan will try to complain about torque, but it is no problem, just think about how easily an electric motor rotates,,, you could have 10 - 100 AC motors attached, multiplying your input by 1000 - 10 000.. now dont you think this much input power could turn your input DC motor

Great post. LET ME SEE YOUR BUILD AND I'LL BELIEVE. IN FACT I'LL BE YOUR FIRST CUSTOMER.
Only Satan would make an unsubstantiated claim; Satan the Prince of deception.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 30, 2014, 03:16:22 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 28, 2014, 10:35:30 PM
Hey Teets

What is an AVR? https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0SO8zFHyqBU0uAAc6RXNyoA?p=avr&fr=yfp-t-901&fr2=piv-web (https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0SO8zFHyqBU0uAAc6RXNyoA?p=avr&fr=yfp-t-901&fr2=piv-web) ???

This? http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/apa2001/product-detailAbemXOYVCnWv/China-Voltage-Reguator-AVR-3000S-.html (http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/apa2001/product-detailAbemXOYVCnWv/China-Voltage-Reguator-AVR-3000S-.html) ??? ?

Magnut

To Insult me agaaaaaaain?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(

AVR = AUTOMATIC VOICE RECOGNITION ;D :o :o :o
AVR = AMERICAN VAYAGRA RECONSTRUCTION :o :o :o :o ;D
AVR = ABOLA VIRUS REVOLUTION ;D :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

@MAVRUT TUT TUT TUT ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 30, 2014, 03:36:16 AM

Quote from: that-prophet on December 29, 2014, 10:15:34 AM
free energy is super simple
you put DC power into a motor with a 100cm circumference pulley on it
you attach a belt, strap, rope or even a string in a pinch
and then attach at least one AC motor to a 1cm pulley on the same belt
you run the AC output through a full wave bridge rectifier to self power...
your DC input motor,,,,
then you have just created your first free energy electricity multiplier
satan will try to complain about torque, but it is no problem, just think about how easily an electric motor rotates,,, you could have 10 - 100 AC motors attached, multiplying your input by 1000 - 10 000.. now dont you think this much input power could turn your input DC motor

To multiply electricity you need to know first the multiplication table so that you know its multiplying. ;D [size=78%] [/size]

If you can't do it in washington D.C, You try it in washington A.C. ;D

@AC Motot ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 30, 2014, 03:37:05 AM

joke only friends ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on December 30, 2014, 05:27:38 AM

TITO: Why not open source your invention and charge a 5% royalty on every build??
That way everyone wins.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 30, 2014, 11:07:24 AM

still searching ? why ? Tito explained it well if you read Tesla notes
especially his interview on high frequency ac currents
he many times mentioned that his way is to minimize resistance while adjust inductance and how capacitor can rise efficiency
that means rising Q factor
now think, can you power resistive load in resonance using much less input power from source ? I think current microcontrollers can easily and fast adjust working frequency, right ?
there is no difference if load is on tank circuit or on secondary circuit,right ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 30, 2014, 04:10:29 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 28, 2014, 09:00:39 PM
ok! heres another tip:
recently i just realized that AVR are more chief than inverters and we can buy at least 5k watts of those.
and it says there that we just need to produce at least 160 - 250 volts of energy to make it run.
Now!, i prefer it producing only 160 volts to make its regulating power to work. isn't it?. 8) and its automatic jetmatic mucolytic ryumatic. ;D
hope for the best everyone. ;)
atiots ;D

Hope this helps:
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/automatic-voltage-regulator
Bob

Edit: Just found this -- http://www.ehow.com/facts_5019061_automatic-voltage-regulator.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 30, 2014, 04:23:54 PM

Quote from: forest on December 30, 2014, 11:07:24 AM
still searching ? why ? Tito explained it well if you read Tesla notes
especially his interview on high frequency ac currents
he many times mentioned that his way is to minimize resistance while adjust inductance and how capacitor can rise efficiency
that means rising Q factor
now think, can you power resistive load in resonance using much less input power from source ? I think current microcontrollers can easily and fast adjust working frequency, right ?
there is no difference if load is on tank circuit or on secondary circuit,right ?

Nicely put, Forest
So, in other words, a circuit at resonance will have greatly diminished resistance and very high inductance?
Instead of a microcontroller, can we not also feed back a pulse in a coil (from a discharging capacitor) across the primary?
Tito has mentioned balance (I assume in coil size/length/weight) a number of times...
In this way, would we not have a continuous ringing or kicking within the primary producing a standing wave that can be tapped with a special pickup coil without disturbing the system's resonance?
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on December 30, 2014, 04:37:44 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on December 30, 2014, 04:23:54 PM
Nicely put, Forest
So, in other words, a circuit at resonance will have greatly diminished resistance and very high inductance?
Instead of a microcontroller, can we not also feed back a pulse in a coil (from a discharging capacitor) across the primary?
Tito has mentioned balance (I assume in coil size/length/weight) a number of times...
In this way, would we not have a continuous ringing or kicking within the primary producing a standing wave that can be tapped with a special pickup coil without disturbing the system's resonance?
Bob

Bob at resonance, the inductive reactance and the capacitive reactances are equal and opposite. If one puts the inductor and capacitor in series then the reactive impedance sums to zero and all that is left is the resistance of the components and the wiring. If one puts the inductor and capacitor in parallel, then the susceptance goes to zero presenting a very high resistive impedance across two lines they span. That gives us four things that we can do with a resonant circuit:

1. Place a series LC network in series with an existing circuit. At resonance the series impedance is very low. Away from it the series impedance grows quickly. This is a series bandpass filter.
2. Place a parallel LC network in series with an existing circuit. At resonance the series impedance is very high. Away from resonance the series impedance falls quickly. This is a series band stop filter.
3. Place a series LC network across an existing circuit. At resonance the network shorts the line. This is a shunt band stop filter.
4. Place a parallel LC network across an existing circuit. At resonance the network looks like an open. This is a shunt band pass filter.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 30, 2014, 09:12:48 PM

Mark,
Thanks for the thoughtful explanation.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 31, 2014, 09:07:28 AM

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE :D
GOD BLESS YOU ALL :)

Hi! everyone i want to share an important finds of mine about the Existence of God and the autenticity of the Bible.

PEOPLE OF GOD PLEASE MAKE YOUR LOGIC WORK :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1C72rahgSQ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 31, 2014, 09:42:52 AM

Thanks Teets for all you've shared.

Here's a brand new video that speaks to an important part of Tito's setup, I believe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-V1z2TdQJA&feature=youtu.be
Blessings for the new year,
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 31, 2014, 11:20:08 AM

MarkE, as always you are correct.. if you want a filter. ;D I start to think that RF transmitter is a secret knowledgekinda like laser construction in 60-ties

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 31, 2014, 11:36:31 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on December 31, 2014, 09:42:52 AM
Thanks Teets for all you've shared.

Here's a brand new video that speaks to an important part of Tito's setup, I believe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-V1z2TdQJA&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-V1z2TdQJA&feature=youtu.be)
Blessings for the new year,
Bob

PERFECT!
I THINK WE CAN ADD THIS FOR STUDIES ;) :) => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSadMqEnO7I

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 31, 2014, 12:04:10 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 31, 2014, 11:36:31 AM

PERFECT!
I THINK WE CAN ADD THIS FOR STUDIES ;) :) => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSadMqEnO7I

Yes! Here's the document the video is based on:
http://www.hyiq.org/Downloads/Guidelines%20to%20Bucking%20Coils.pdf
Great research summary, generously shared by Chris Sykes (hyiq.org)
B

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on December 31, 2014, 01:14:54 PM

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 01, 2015, 02:16:24 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 25, 2013, 03:36:32 AM
@forest
as i told everyone we are not limited to one design ok, we are free. The important thing is you must knew the working engine. :)

Be careful buddy i know what you mean. that's very dangerous. :) :'(

it can strike very fast like lightning. :) :(
insulate your self ok?, be safe. :)
Cause without you, there will be flood in the city. like in the Philippines ;D

@stuffynose ;D
Source is not a big deal anymore okay. ;) let say we use the antenna source, the style of coil should be according to what it needs ok,

now if battery, of course it should depends on how you can use the full strength of the certain battery volts and its amp. 8)

in that way, what i mean a say is that it always depends on the source how you make your primary phases of coils. hope you get it. :-\ ???

it always need matching technique and balance. and timing is not anymore big deal also here but still included. ???

let say for example a child or a baby cannot chew foods that an adult can. ;)

Well, one time i made a design that needs a battery for just a starter, and if you will not remove it, it is being charge. so after start you remove it and that's it. it should stand itself. ;) and that design falls under sm, hubbard , bearden design. just caps ok 8)

and if you want antenna you really need at least two to three phase or i mean stage or whatever you call it. :D

BUT the best for me is the DC amplification, believe me. ;) :)

Thank you, hope i made a little help to everyone. :-*

me and always me the teaser of everybody ototits. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D i mean teacher ;D

God bless everyone. :)

I HOPE I FREED EVERY ONES THINKING IN THE BOX, CAUSE THAT IS MY PRIMARY PURPOSE HERE AND THAT IS TO MAKE YOU FREE. ;)

LOVE YOU EVERYONE. :-*

;D OTOTITS ;D

I thought I'd bring this post back up. Some helpful clues. Teets talks about stages, and recently, he's mentioned cascades. Now, considering the very recent posts, it seems a clearer picture emerges. I think Tito's past references to the crystal radio antenna are also worth remembering as a source of our initial kick. As the teetcher :) says, safety is important, especially the kick, kick, kick...boom.
Happy New Year
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 02, 2015, 06:00:01 AM

one source could be for example small solar panel like those used in garden lamps , connected to original garden lamp circuit or any other oscillator running from tiny currents
the second stage would be low esr capacitor and a second oscillator running on this capacitor charge
the next stage could be a colcroft-walton voltage multiplier again charging a capacitor or a small battery
here you can use Tesla methods, whatever circuit potential you like
the only problem is the source of electrons
that's why they opted to use high voltage
we all know that for a long time, there was an article in russian explaining Tariel device

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on January 02, 2015, 06:37:40 AM

Quote from: forest on January 02, 2015, 06:00:01 AM
one source could be for example small solar panel like those used in garden lamps , connected to original garden lamp circuit or any other oscillator running from tiny currents
the second stage would be low esr capacitor and a second oscillator running on this capacitor charge
the next stage could be a colcroft-walton voltage multiplier again charging a capacitor or a small battery
here you can use Tesla methods, whatever circuit potential you like
the only problem is the source of electrons
that's why they opted to use high voltage
we all know that for a long time, there was an article in russian explaining Tariel device

Hi Forest,
As you say : "the only problem is the source of electrons" no is not a problem because are available on earth.
When the negative voltages are produced on the line output the ground is less negative and more positive that line output , this make the flow of electrons due to the potential differential.
The circuit exciter is only a "pump" and need to produce negative voltage . Is possible to charge a cap very fast with this process blinding the source.
The air can supply electrons to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDh7Uw5XC_w

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 02, 2015, 07:23:36 AM

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on January 02, 2015, 06:37:40 AM
Hi Forest,
As you say : "the only problem is the source of electrons" no is not a problem because are available on earth.
When the negative voltages are produced on the line output the ground is less negative and more positive that line output , this make the flow of electrons due to the potential differential.
The circuit exciter is only a "pump" and need to produce negative voltage . Is possible to charge a cap very fast with this process blinding the source.
The air can supply electrons to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDh7Uw5XC_w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDh7Uw5XC_w)

yes, I agree, but from my experience it is still a hard task if you work with low voltage and if you work with high voltage it is easily miss. that's why I pointed to RF transmitter knowledge with resonance. basically it is all radio knowledge used the right way

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 02, 2015, 02:16:09 PM

Thinking out loud here...
The TMT has 3 coils, as does Tito's setup.
The way I understand it, we're looking at 3 equal coils, to ensure resonance. The third coil has a different topology to help us pick up the resonant impulses without disturbing the other 2. In fact coil 2 may have a different topology from coil 1 as well - have to get to the bench and try a few things out.
The way I understand it, we have an antenna (coil) dumping electrical charge into a cap, which discharges through a diode (perhaps a zener); the other 2 coils are appropriately configured and placed to keep the ringing going and produce a standing wave, and to harvest it.

This is a simplified bare-bones kind of proposal. There may be a few added components for the cascade effect; I believe coils can be effectively used (as can caps) for this effect.

Here's a link Tito posted over a year ago about the TMT. Look at 1:15 And on.
I believe the Tito's model uses similar principles, but different layout:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k2ROmDiX_Q
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 05, 2015, 03:35:31 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmXGOlz4AYQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLP5CZLLaG8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zXsN9z-N_Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ax3lLHkykA

PEOPLE OF GOD AWAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 05, 2015, 08:53:45 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 05, 2015, 03:35:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmXGOlz4AYQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmXGOlz4AYQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLP5CZLLaG8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLP5CZLLaG8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zXsN9z-N_Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zXsN9z-N_Y)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ax3lLHkykA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ax3lLHkykA)

Especially the last video

PEOPLE OF GOD AWAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, God is about to give free energy to the world and those who have been chosen are being attacked by Satan
and refuse to give the secret to the world.

How true.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 05, 2015, 09:43:54 AM

Hey guy's Iv been looking at the magnetic field line geometry, how to build it and pulse it and Romero's gen came to mind so I started reviewing the old build's and something struck me odd why isnt there a coil on the shaft.
Every time a magnet lines up with an outer coil the shaft gets a hit too.
Just thought you might want to think on it a little.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KaVcmXyktw

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 05, 2015, 09:50:38 AM

Could we make a rotary transformer, pulsing the outer coils and collecting from the coil on the shaft.
The outer coils and the coil on the shaft could also be wound in series.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 05, 2015, 10:25:28 AM

I wonder if the system could be polarized, if it could the air cored coils would have more attraction to the magnets.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: BorisKrabow on January 05, 2015, 10:31:10 AM

Amplification Energy 600 percent ! Valeri Ivanov ( Bulgaria ) .
http://www.inkomp-delta.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/Waleri1021/videos
like a magnetic transistor . There are patents and negotiations with producers !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 05, 2015, 10:36:41 AM

What if the outer six coils were wound with 18 gauge wire and the coil on the shaft were wound with six strands twisted 18 gauge wire, same weight, in other words the coil on the shaft would weigh the same as all the outer coils combined would the coils be in sync.

Just some thoughts
dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 05, 2015, 10:54:49 AM

If the outer coils were all wound cw and the coil on the shaft were wound ccw wouldnt we get transformer action between the outer coils and the inner coil.
A rotary transformer ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 05, 2015, 11:01:29 AM

If I remember correctly Romero's gen had all norths facing up, what you wanna bet they all connected to the shaft magnetically and every time the magnet passed a coil the shaft got bumped as well.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 05, 2015, 11:21:15 AM

So I was talking to someone about studying the geometry of the magnetic field line and trying to build a structure to match that geometry and get a magnetic lock and they said something that made alot of sense, they said you know a magnet stood on end is attracted to the earths magnetic field.
From the mouths of babes :)
Thats when I took another look at Romero's gen.
2015 is gonna be a roller coaster ride guys get ready.
We're gonna shake things up.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 06, 2015, 07:46:39 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 05, 2015, 08:53:45 AM

Yes, God is about to give free energy to the world and those who have been chosen are being attacked by Satan
and refuse to give the secret to the world.

How true.

What i believe is, the people will be punished quickly by the government if the secret is released. :)
and world war 3 will come very fast. :)

Think big ok. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 06, 2015, 01:53:15 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 06, 2015, 07:46:39 AM

What i believe is, the people will be punished quickly by the government if the secret is released. :)
and world war 3 will come very fast. :)

Think big ok. :)

What is the "secret" ? Why anybody would be punished if that is common knowledge ? Everybody know that capacitor can kill, because it can produce big kick of current ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 06, 2015, 11:58:48 PM

Quote from: forest on January 06, 2015, 01:53:15 PM

What is the "secret" ? Why anybody would be punished if that is common knowledge ? Everybody know that capacitor can kill, because it can produce big kick of current ;D

imagine if no one is buying conventional energy anymore. that is a world wide effect. :)

What do you think will happen to the arabian people?. ??? and to some other countries that depending only on crude oil bussiness? :(
That is why they are really serious in killing inventors of many free energy right?, and that is suppression of free energy technology. :) [size=78%] [/size]

See we can live even there is no free energy, but others can't live if their crude oil is not being sold anymore, got it?. :)

What would the government do if they are not anymore profiting in basic energy?, what do you think?
where do you think he get money from the people? ???

it is actually a "tricky common knowledge", but it is actually obviously shown in tesla's patent 568176 there are just some little missing components and a little twist arrangement. :)
Capacitor is actually a big open door from outside and inside, its actually a matter of in coming and out going. 8) got it?, i guess not ;D

See, There is advantage and disadvantage in everything, and i think i'm choosing the much better one. :)
and let everything goes normal. :D

And and and it could be a trigger for a ww3. :)

;)
Capacitotits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 07, 2015, 01:55:23 AM

I see your point, but you are wrong and climate change is the proof
80% of oil must remain under the ground or we will suffer a lot
http://www.ipcc.ch/news_and_events/docs/ar5/ar5_syr_headlines_en.pdf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 07, 2015, 10:29:32 AM

I want to tell you a story never told
A secret never whispered
No not free energy but an understanding sought through the ages
What you do with it is your business

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 07, 2015, 11:03:14 AM

Have you entered into the treasures of the snow,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 07, 2015, 11:54:48 AM

No work is done on the seventh day but the power comes through the seventh day.
Guy's I'm not sure about this circuit, just an idea I had.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 07, 2015, 12:16:58 PM

I dont have all the answers, the center may be the primary with work being done on the six secondary's

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 07, 2015, 12:28:58 PM

The fields work like planetary gears

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: truesearch on January 07, 2015, 12:38:36 PM

@Dave45:

I'm watching and reading. . . . I certainly appreciate and respect your application and interpretation here.

Not sure if this can lead to some usable "energy" extraction or not.

I encourage you to keep up the work :)

truesearch

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 07, 2015, 12:47:57 PM

field line

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 07, 2015, 12:55:13 PM

Quote from: truesearch on January 07, 2015, 12:38:36 PM
@Dave45:

I'm watching and reading. . . . I certainly appreciate and respect your application and interpretation here.

Not sure if this can lead to some usable "energy" extraction or not.

I encourage you to keep up the work :)

truesearch

Its His creation it has to point to Him.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 07, 2015, 01:14:07 PM

It works in fours
four-eight
Eight is the number of Christ Jesus
Eight is also the number of completion.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 07, 2015, 02:42:01 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 06, 2015, 11:58:48 PM

imagine if no one is buying conventional energy anymore. that is a world wide effect. :)

What do you think will happen to the arabian people?. ??? and to some other countries that depending only on crude oil bussiness? :(
That is why they are really serious in killing inventors of many free energy right?, and that is suppression of free energy technology. :) [size=78%] [/size]

See we can live even there is no free energy, but others can't live if their crude oil is not being sold anymore, got it?. :)

What would the government do if they are not anymore profiting in basic energy?, what do you think?
where do you think he get money from the people? ???

it is actually a "tricky common knowledge", but it is actually obviously shown in tesla's patent 568176 there are just some little missing components and a little twist arrangement. :)
Capacitor is actually a big open door from outside and inside, its actually a matter of in coming and out going. 8) got it?, i guess not ;D

See, There is advantage and disadvantage in everything, and i think i'm choosing the much better one. :)
and let everything goes normal. :D

And and and it could be a trigger for a ww3. :)

;)
Capacitotits ;D

Tesla Patent 568176

Which one Tito? Figure 1 or Figure 2?
Both are quite different circuits.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: mscoffman on January 07, 2015, 03:28:03 PM

@Dave45,

You are a creative sort of person. An idea I've had is to use steel or preferably iron wire to wind magnetic
pathways rather than to mold and fire them from existing ferrite. Then one would wind the copper coils on top
of this frame. #16 gauge steel wire is available from Home Depot for cheap. Be sure to take a magnet with you
when you purchase this wire to prevent purchasing aluminum. Once a design is tested it could be easily
scaled up if desired. I plan on trying some making some Jewel Thief toroids made this way. It might be better
to use iron wire or special alloy ferrite wires in this service. While this method may not be dimensionally exact,
one may be able to use it as a better-than-nothing-tests to see if there is any existing OU at all for an instance.
I would love to make 6" JT toroids very inexpensively, for example. Even if there are problems this might still
be useful in certain instances.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 07, 2015, 06:16:29 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 06, 2015, 11:58:48 PM

imagine if no one is buying conventional energy anymore. that is a world wide effect. :)

What do you think will happen to the arabian people?. ??? and to some other countries that depending only on crude oil bussiness? :(
That is why they are really serious in killing inventors of many free energy right?, and that is suppression of free energy technology. :) [size=78%] [/size]

See we can live even there is no free energy, but others can't live if their crude oil is not being sold anymore, got it?. :)

What would the government do if they are not anymore profiting in basic energy?, what do you think?
where do you think he get money from the people? ???

it is actually a "tricky common knowledge", but it is actually obviously shown in tesla's patent 568176 there are just some little missing components and a little twist arrangement. :)
Capacitor is actually a big open door from outside and inside, its actually a matter of in coming and out going. 8) got it?, i guess not ;D

See, There is advantage and disadvantage in everything, and i think i'm choosing the much better one. :)
and let everything goes normal. :D

And and and it could be a trigger for a ww3. :)

;)
Capacitotits ;D

Maybe you have something, and maybe you dont. Many here hope you do, and will come forth with the truth. Im still at maybe. Im not saying you dont have it, and I cannot say that you do. Thats truth.

In your above post, you make many claims. Claims of fear. But as a true christian, are we not suppose to be brave? Have enough 'faith' to be brave in 'ALL' we do? In recent years, as I go through my day, I might say out loud(mostly softly ;D ) "faith" as an answer to problems or issues that dont seem possible, or easily solved at the time. and then I can actually relax and not fear the possible bad outcomes of the issues or problems. And it has worked out very well in my case. FAITH, is all that is required of us from God since Jesus and his purpose here on Earth. Faith. I dont indulge the faith on finding free energy. God knows that I search for it. But I 'know' that if I am to see and experience a real free energy device, then God has that plan for me. If not, then so be it. I direct my faith toward non selfish issues. Mostly pure 'necessity' for others and myself. And it works like little/big miracles. Testimony that I could give on those miracles, as I see them as miracles, brings the devils in to try and destroy my faith and words, and distract those that read them with interest. And even some proclaimed Christians may have doubts of my experiences if I detailed them all. Faith is a very powerful thing

As for oil nations. If they 'know' that free energy exists, then too bad if it hurt them in 'that' pocket book. It is not all those people in those countries that make a living only on oil. Everyone has the chance and ability to learn to do many other things, other than causing empty cavities in the earth causing huge sinkholes and earthquakes (tsunami )that end up being very dangerous to people, but not near as damaging as the products of burning that oil, and the tremendous amounts that are soaked into the surface grounds, into the water tables, onto the farmlands, and into the oceans(gulf spill, many many others). These countries can use the huge amounts of money they have to build electric cars/bikes/planes. Become a nation of producing other goods, like many other nations. Governments alone could save trillions of dollars on energy consumption, let alone the citizens. So it has to be open sourced in a way that 'many' would know. "They" cant just kill the whole planet. What would they end up with? I cannot see WW3 over a 'well distributed' open source info on a free energy device. 'They' would more than likely have to go after 'all' the individuals that received the info. But if if it were dumped out there in a huge way, again, why bomb everything because of that? Its worth the suicide?

I believe that we still have the time of great peace to come. It will probable be a free energy time. But things will get bad after that. there is no stopping any of it. So just keep the faith. In the end, that is what counts. ;)

But, even in recent posts, you have thrown out more of what you call hints, but then bring on posts like this. If this post above is what you have felt from the beginning of posting here, then we have to believe that none of what you have so called given us, is anything close to producing 'free' self powered energy. How could it be? 6, 7, 8 years. Dont even count them anymore. Nobody has anything to show for it.

People read here with plenty of hope. I hope they get what they came for. Otherwise, look at what they have accomplished in these years. ???

Still searching. But not as much as I used to.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 07, 2015, 08:10:33 PM

I started studying the geometry of the magnetic field line in the hopes I could build a structure that copys that geometry, the idea is to attract maybe even get a magnetic lock with the planets magnetic field then energy could be drawn from that source.

If you really look at the magnetic structure in the pic with the magnet and monitor you will see it is structured, that needs to be studied.

I found out years ago the A vector fields act like gears, the A vector field is there I have seen it and showed it to you in the ice pics.

Look at Searles device the inner ring is either a North or South facing up, lets say North and the outer magnets are all South facing up. They dont just move around the circumference of the inner ring they spin and not from friction but because of the A vector field.

I believe the magnetic field builds a honeycomb structure that covers this whole planet, there may be thousands of field lines in an area the size of a pin I dont know, but as that structure gets bigger to encompass more field lines the geometry never changes and maybe we can tap into an inexaustable amount of energy.

The days of trouble are coming we cant stop that its written, but I know where we can get help, and so do you.
Look to the One that built it, I believe he gave us a hint in the book of Job.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 07, 2015, 08:32:04 PM

I had someone tell me that the structure was cause by the monitor tube but if you look around the magnet where you see the side view of the lines we dont see that structure, just looking at the end of the magnet head on.

Look at the magnet and reflected image it looks as though the magnet is in a bowl the field lines go into the screen then bend and come back around the magnet and here we see the same structure but with a larger diameter.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 07, 2015, 09:00:03 PM

Lets say you were living on a large magnet (which we are) and ice crystals formed in that magnets magnetic field what would they look like ;)
Id bet they would take on the structure of that field.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 07, 2015, 11:57:10 PM

Well, i am not afraid of anything.

THE CURRENT SITUATION IN THIS EARTH IS ALREADY THERE AND THAT IS THE BALANCE STATE.

ANY WRONG MOVE WILL COLLAPSE EVERYTHING

AND I DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF ITS DESTRUCTION!!!

LET EVERYTHING GOES NORMAL!

BYE BYE >:( [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 08, 2015, 12:08:46 AM

I can see only good coming from the collapse of something which stands in the way of freedom and independence for every creature on the planet.

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 08, 2015, 12:39:03 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 07, 2015, 11:57:10 PM
Well, i am not afraid of anything.

THE CURRENT SITUATION IN THIS EARTH IS ALREADY THERE AND THAT IS THE BALANCE STATE.

ANY WRONG MOVE WILL COLLAPSE EVERYTHING

AND I DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF ITS DESTRUCTION!!!

LET EVERYTHING GOES NORMAL!

BYE BYE >:( [size=78%] [/size]

"LET EVERYTHING GOES NORMAL!"

And you also say the same thing in the previous post I replied to....

"See, There is advantage and disadvantage in everything, and i think i'm choosing the much better one. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foverunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fsmiley.gif&hash=988f235d2137dcd6eeb7b9ed4d2dce57a9298b3c)
and let everything goes normal. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foverunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fcheesy.gif&hash=56536f14682fd9458fd56cee30603517f8ef07a9)

And and and it could be a trigger for a ww3. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foverunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fsmiley.gif&hash=988f235d2137dcd6eeb7b9ed4d2dce57a9298b3c) "

While all in the same previous post, this....

"it is actually a "tricky common knowledge", but it is actually obviously shown in tesla's patent 568176 there are just some little missing components and a little twist arrangement. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foverunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fsmiley.gif&hash=988f235d2137dcd6eeb7b9ed4d2dce57a9298b3c)
Capacitor is actually a big open door from outside and inside, its actually a matter of in coming and out going. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foverunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fcool.gif&hash=098b4b5d1b0625a21c497652cbb3a23a77c28bc8) got it?, i guess not (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foverunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fgrin.gif&hash=cd02ab72b43d7c872141919fdd589569a3e03ba2) "

Why include more supposed clues to FE in the same post that you condemn the knowledge of it????? ::) ::) ::) If you condemn the FE knowledge, then I 'have to assume' that the secret is not where you say it is, dont I? I have to assume that the patent having the secret must be false, because you clearly state that you dont want us or anyone to have that knowledge. ;)

It makes no sense at all. A post contradicting itself. ::) ::) ::) Am I not suppose to recognize these inconsistencies??? ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 08, 2015, 05:14:34 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on January 08, 2015, 12:39:03 AM
"LET EVERYTHING GOES NORMAL!"

And you also say the same thing in the previous post I replied to....

"See, There is advantage and disadvantage in everything, and i think i'm choosing the much better one. (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
and let everything goes normal. (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)

And and and it could be a trigger for a ww3. (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) "

While all in the same previous post, this....

"it is actually a "tricky common knowledge", but it is actually obviously shown in tesla's patent 568176 there are just some little missing components and a little twist arrangement. (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
Capacitor is actually a big open door from outside and inside, its actually a matter of in coming and out going. (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/cool.gif) got it?, i guess not (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif) "

Why include more supposed clues to FE in the same post that you condemn the knowledge of it? ??? ? ::) ::) ::) If you condemn the FE knowledge, then I 'have to assume' that the secret is not where you say it is, dont I? I have to assume that the patent having the secret must be false, because you clearly state that you dont want us or anyone to have that knowledge. ;)

It makes no sense at all. A post contradicting itself. ::) ::) ::) Am I not suppose to recognize these inconsistencies??? ;)

Mags

Whaaaaaat? :o

another frankenstein statement. :)
i don't like this anymore. ok

some other time i think.
so be it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 08, 2015, 05:41:37 AM

I wonder how is wattsup doing ? he afaik coined the term "wing edge technic" ? can it be useful for capacitors ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 08, 2015, 05:46:07 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EucI1kNLO8Q ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: From other Planet on January 08, 2015, 06:33:45 AM

You are very wise man Tito. Thank you very much for being with us :) :) :)
Happy and healthy year 2015 to you!

regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 08, 2015, 07:34:51 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 07, 2015, 02:42:01 PM

Tesla Patent 568176

Which one Tito? Figure 1 or Figure 2?
Both are quite different circuits.

Tito: Please reply.
And a happy New Year ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 09:18:03 AM

Quote from: forest on January 08, 2015, 05:46:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EucI1kNLO8Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EucI1kNLO8Q) ;D

Hey Forest thanks for that vid Im a carpenter and have never seen that, cool I'll have to build that for a customer some day. :)

I think the answer is in a Hubbard type arrangement, he was accused of using radium in his device but I dont think so, I do believe he was bought out though.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 09:32:06 AM

Hubbard used nine coils but he probably hadnt seen the magnetic structure as we have seen using the monitor screen.
And the snow structure was probably unknown then.
Seven

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 09:43:54 AM

Eddy currents are a transformer's nightmare they heat up the core but if the core were structured to accept and channel those currents

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 09:56:49 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 09:43:54 AM
Eddy currents are a transformer's nightmare they heat up the core but if the core were structured to accept and channel those currents

Then energy could be pulled from the core which in turn would boost the system even more, the more energy you pulled the stronger the magnetic field, no eddy currents to heat the iron.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 10:10:11 AM

If the right structure was found it could be expanded then expanded again and again, how much do you need ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 10:27:17 AM

I would think the more power you pulled from the system the smaller the eddy currents would get the system would have to be expanded until there was no heat being generated in the core for the load being run.
Eddy currents are not a curse but a gift.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 11:05:55 AM

I still have more questions than answers
But I now have a bearing I know the direction

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 11:11:45 AM

Maybe like this

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 11:17:07 AM

it would take alot of welding rods to fill this
But the coils should be up next to each other, tighter more compact.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 11:40:15 AM

Back when I was using the monitor to look at the magnets field lines I also did the experiment using a coil I cant remember if I used an iron core or if it was air cored but I did see the structure but very faint and large.
When I used the coil I pulsed it by hand the first pulse showed the structure fairly well but any pulses after that the structure was very weak.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 01:27:16 PM

Something I thought odd but didnt understand at the time.
This coil was frozen in water the coil was powered using 12v dc running an automotive bulb.
Notice the straight lines around the edges of the container, honeycomb structure ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on January 08, 2015, 03:39:31 PM

...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: From other Planet on January 08, 2015, 05:14:20 PM

...
...
... =)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 06:56:05 PM

So tell me guys why am I getting a honeycomb structure around only one coil, I could see it if I had a number of coils but only one.
Whats pushing against that coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 10:44:53 PM

The hexagon shape is caused by the coils magnetic field curling around to connect to the other pole

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 11:07:55 PM

I think the Biblical account is written in the field
Christ and the twelve apostles

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 09, 2015, 04:12:45 AM

@mags the magician :D
hey buddy if you're just looking for fault and want to prove many things then just don't believe me ok? and just go away here!.
are you happy with that? :)
i don't want many discussion about you anymore ok.

i'm not condemming FE, i just want everybody to discover it by them selves, in that case they will not easily give it just right away to anybody, understood?
That is the reason why i still give more clues! got it.
you define FAITH very good but i cannot smell it to you the real sense of it. :P :-[

NOW IF YOU DON'T MIND PLEEEEEZZZE! ;D

@AKING21
Well sir, we can actually see it from both figure but figure 1 is much clearer for me.
ok here buddy. imagine why there are two motors there in that figure, did you notice the size of those motors, you have to study that ok?.
did you not notice that the patent is producing high potential and currents which is what we really NEED for POWER ::) 8) ;) really just a matter of research isn't it. ;) 8)

@OTHERPLANET
THANKS BRO. ;)

@everyone
in making a decision i think we have to consider a lot of things,
i'm not pro oil companies, i'm pro everything ok.
And the most important thing is, Lets wait for Gods guidance isn't it?

@dave45
Since youre a carpenter, i dedicate this to you bud. :D ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTaWayUE5XA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTaWayUE5XA)

titocoil ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 09, 2015, 06:10:16 AM

ha ha ha tito

we are dreaming all the way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-aK6JnyFmk

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 09, 2015, 06:45:03 AM

Thanks for putting up with me guys, I like mental exercises and structure interests me.
Maybe Searle isnt as crazy as everyone thinks.
If the north end of the magnet is facing you the south curls back and is facing you on the outer circumference.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 09, 2015, 07:27:24 AM

Can we tap into the magnets energy using twelve coils positioned around the magnet.
Searle is spinning the magnets around the center magnet but they just go from slot to slot their north south orientation never changes.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 09, 2015, 07:39:03 AM

Or three, I think this is the basic structure

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 09, 2015, 08:04:54 AM

If the three coils are pulsed and are wound to oppose the field what will happen when they recover.
Bemf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 09, 2015, 10:28:32 AM

Just an idea, not sure how the mazilli circuit will react but any circuit that will hit the coils in this manner.
Three coils ccw and three cw
Can we tap a magnets field
All work is being done on the six days. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 09, 2015, 11:05:55 AM

Have you ever truly tried to keep the Sabbath, I mean as the Jews were taught.
I promise you before the day is out you will be thanking the Father for sending His Son.
Im not a very good christian but I believe.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 09, 2015, 11:48:02 AM

I must reiterate Iv never built this coil magnet configuration it is just an idea.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: From other Planet on January 09, 2015, 12:19:41 PM

hi all =)

@Tito: i not need put words here, Energy back to you? :) :) ;D

all@ wanna give me the 2+1 VERY NICE WORDS i found recently? please give them only if u really know them...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on January 09, 2015, 12:54:05 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 08, 2015, 10:44:53 PM
The hexagon shape is caused by the coils magnetic field curling around to connect to the other pole

Sorry Dave, but you are going down a blind alley. The hexagon shape is a moire pattern resulting in the skewed electron beams hitting the "wrong" colour phosphors. The colour phosphors are arranged in a hexagonal grid.

You know exactly what the magnetic field really looks like, you have seen the diagrams thousands of times. You are just looking at an "interference beat" on the screen, nothing more.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: From other Planet on January 09, 2015, 02:26:32 PM

i see someone claiming ultimate truth ;)
i see someone try building small but useless w ea p on s haha ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

why trying to deceive and mislead people here hm?
maybe u want overthink your view...if u feel scared urself, maybe asking GOOD friends for little help so u can together with us come to an AGREEMENT?

i for my part really Enjoy our Journey

LOVE and HAPPYNESS , (or whatever you want?)

best wishes to all
regards Manu

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 09, 2015, 07:23:54 PM

I think what we're looking for is quite simple.
It all starts with a pulse - for example, from a capacitor. If you look at Tesla's patent for a radiant energy device, you have an antenna, wire, a capacitor and ground. See diagram and explanation here by George Trinkaus:
http://home.earthlink.net/~drestinblack/tesfreee.htm
Remember, your ground can be virtual.

So we get an antenna and a cap to pulse the first coil; perhaps zener after the cap...

Now what kind of coil would function as both L and C so that the pulse bounces back and forth inside?

Okay, cap fires into special LC type of coil, across another coil. Now if this second coil is like the first in configuration, we now have two sets of pulses bouncing back and forth. Suppose we find a way to feed back the pulse to the cap (with a diode).

Pick up the pulses without affecting the primary.

:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 09, 2015, 08:20:48 PM

Tito:

@AKING21Well sir, we can actually see it from both figure but figure 1 is much clearer for me.ok here buddy. imagine why there are two motors there in that figure, did you notice the size of those motors, you have to study that ok?.did you not notice that the patent is producing high potential and currents which is what we really NEED for POWER really just a matter of research isn't it.

I am a little confused, because figure 2 has the use of 2 high induction coil windings of a motor not figure 1.
Can you be a little clearer please?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 10, 2015, 02:17:00 AM

a.king21, not motors not motors but motoring action ;)
why do you need oil in engine ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 10, 2015, 07:37:02 AM

I think whatever we do we need to stop using the battery as an electron source for the load, that kills the battery quick.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 10, 2015, 07:54:09 AM

Hey Milehigh
Its not just the structure seen in the monitor its the geometry of the snowflake its the honeycomb structure, its the shape that the coil produced when frozen in water.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 10, 2015, 08:26:34 AM

There are alot of clues graphene's structure is what makes it work.
Its conducive to the magnetic field structure.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 10, 2015, 02:44:59 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 10, 2015, 07:37:02 AM
I think whatever we do we need to stop using the battery as an electron source for the load, that kills the battery quick.

I think you should look at chobi car with schematic ; search for it

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 10, 2015, 06:09:40 PM

Hey Forest
I did a search but no luck, got a link?

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 10, 2015, 08:10:38 PM

Quote from: forest on January 10, 2015, 02:44:59 PM

I think you should look at chobi car with schematic ; search for it

Ok I see where you posted it.
Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 10, 2015, 08:59:39 PM

Searched high and low for it too...no luck.

Wooda bin nice if youda posted up that link for us Dave.

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 10, 2015, 10:47:16 PM

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19943-chobi-electric-car.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 11, 2015, 01:07:07 AM

Thanks for that Bob.

Odd that nobody reported any results from such a basic circuit...interesting though.

Regards...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on January 11, 2015, 04:12:50 AM

SALAMAT KA Tito PARA SA LAHAT pahiwatig AT SA pahiwatig ng enerhiya paglaki DEVICE . ALAM ko IKAW na nagsasabi sa katotohanan
. LANG ako nagsisimula kumonekta LAHAT NG DOT . MAY MAHUSAY MAN MULA pHHILIPHINA

SALAMAT marami kang

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 11, 2015, 06:11:59 AM

I think the circuit would work the same with a car body, if the battery is grounded to the body and the loads ground is the car body the car becomes part of the circuit and iron is a great electron source.

I played with two circuits trying to tie them together and noticed I had to have at least one wire connected from battery to battery for the circuits to join the same is happening when we try to tie into the planets electrons we have to make the earth part of the circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 12, 2015, 09:04:28 AM

Quote from: MileHigh on January 09, 2015, 12:54:05 PM
Sorry Dave, but you are going down a blind alley. The hexagon shape is a moire pattern resulting in the skewed electron beams hitting the "wrong" colour phosphors. The colour phosphors are arranged in a hexagonal grid.

You know exactly what the magnetic field really looks like, you have seen the diagrams thousands of times. You are just looking at an "interference beat" on the screen, nothing more.

Thanks for this it is just another example of working within the structure.
The field is structured and I believe we have to work within the structure to tap an inexhaustible energy source.

I think we can tap into a magnets energy along its field lines

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 12, 2015, 09:54:15 PM

If you haven't seen this Dave, maybe you should.

Regards...

Quote from: TheoriaApophasis on January 11, 2015, 09:09:06 PM
I just made video 106 proving i am NOT moving anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo_k62pi8Vg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo_k62pi8Vg)

...the image automatically appears WITHOUT turning anything.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 12, 2015, 10:48:51 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 09, 2015, 08:20:48 PM
Tito:

@AKING21Well sir, we can actually see it from both figure but figure 1 is much clearer for me.ok here buddy. imagine why there are two motors there in that figure, did you notice the size of those motors, you have to study that ok?.did you not notice that the patent is producing high potential and currents which is what we really NEED for POWER really just a matter of research isn't it.

I am a little confused, because figure 2 has the use of 2 high induction coil windings of a motor not figure 1.
Can you be a little clearer please?

no! they are the same.

ok here, the small motor maintain the high peak voltage of the capacitor,
and the big motor always discharge at the peak voltage.

thats it, some other time everyone. ;)

mototits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 13, 2015, 10:34:19 AM

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on January 12, 2015, 09:54:15 PM
If you haven't seen this Dave, maybe you should.

Regards...

I believe what we are seeing is the interaction of the electron with the magnet and its pole structure.
I think we tread on dangerous ground and need to be careful.
All will be revealed when its time.
Jesus Christ 888
Im going to study awhile

dave
out

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MrMag on January 13, 2015, 07:18:30 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 12, 2015, 10:48:51 PM

no! they are the same.

ok here, the small motor maintain the high peak voltage of the capacitor,
and the big motor always discharge at the peak voltage.

thats it, some other time everyone. ;)

mototits ;D

Tito, are you still here bullsh*ting everyone. Your misinformation and crap is sickening. Everyone, stop listening to this fool. He wants you to believe that he has all of the answers but he doesn't know anything. Tito, go away

If you look at figure 1 and 2, K and L are the identical items. A step-up transformer. In drawing 1 the "small motor", is not a small motor. It is the symbol that Tesla used to show A.C. input. He uses it on many of his patents.

Being the very informative and knowledgeable scholar that Tit-O is, you would think that he knew this. HE IS A FAKE!!!!Don't waste your time trying to decode his crap. That's all that it is, crap.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 13, 2015, 08:21:41 PM

Quote from: MrMag on January 13, 2015, 07:18:30 PM
Tito, are you still here bullsh*ting everyone. Your misinformation and crap is sickening. Everyone, stop listening to this fool. He wants you to believe that he has all of the answers but he doesn't know anything. Tito, go away

If you look at figure 1 and 2, K and L are the identical items. A step-up transformer. In drawing 1 the "small motor", is not a small motor. It is the symbol that Tesla used to show A.C. input. He uses it on many of his patents.

Being the very informative and knowledgeable scholar that Tit-O is, you would think that he knew this. HE IS A FAKE!!!!Don't waste your time trying to decode his crap. That's all that it is, crap.

ngek! :o

ngek ngok ngok! :o ;D

You just prove that you are from oil companies ;D hahhahahahahahahhahahaha
ya don't you see that it is a current and high potential producer? hahahhahahhaahhahahaha. :o

see, your becoming nervous and afraid to them that they might discover it, isn't it? hahahahahhahahahhha

winner! ;D

You know what? i don't know what did i do to you why you're sooooo very mad at me. its really unusual. :D

OK LETS BE FRIEND NOW :D

BIGTITS - OH ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 13, 2015, 10:54:16 PM

Actually I can understand what Tito means now!. Strangely enough I can now see that Tito has a point!

There are two sources: ie charge and discharge in diag1, and in diag 2 they are on the same commutator.
So actually Tito is right. Remember there is a language barrier here.
One more point: the input is DC. (Tesla's own words.)
The way Tesla's wired up his universal motor is BRILLIANT. I've just been testing some of the wiring,
and what looks like a dead short across the commutator actually powers the motor up except it uses more power and gets hot.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2015, 07:21:07 AM

Here's one for the playbook 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2015, 09:25:44 AM

Iv been thinking alot about using a battery as a power source, is the objective really about an alternate electron source or is it about not letting electrons balance out the battery.
In a battery we have a surplus of electrons on the neg pole and a deficit on the pos, as electrons flow from neg to pos we get current from pos to neg but when the charge in the battery is balanced its over, so even if we are pulling electrons from the ground we are still balancing the charge in the battery.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2015, 09:53:11 AM

Lets say I ground the battery build a circuit and use earth ground as an electron source, Im still balancing out the battery, Im still filling the pos side of the battery with electrons.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on January 14, 2015, 10:44:01 AM

@Dave45

QuoteIn a battery we have a surplus of electrons on the neg pole and a deficit on the
pos, as electrons flow from neg to pos we get current from pos to neg but when
the charge in the battery is balanced its over, so even if we are pulling
electrons from the ground we are still balancing the charge in the battery.

A better model may be more electrons (negative terminal) less electrons (positive terminal) the electrons moving from negative(more) to positive(less). We should remember only the Free Electrons(-) are mobile thus we know the Protons(+) are not actually moving anywhere and are bound to the conductor material. As well if the system is closed then we know the number of electrons is constant within it therefore the energy in the system is dependent on where the electrons are, electron density, and how many are there.
Think of a system completely full of air with the higher density/pressure air(-) flowing through a conduit to the lower density/pressure air(+) eventually balancing the pressure. We see the amount of air is constant within the system therefore the energy in the system is dependent on the difference in pressure between the highest point(-) and the lowest point(+). I found nothing made sense until I discarded the conventional flow notation and started using electron flow notation exclusively...it works.

Here is by far the best explanation you will find on the net.
http://amasci.com/miscon/whatis.html (http://amasci.com/miscon/whatis.html)

AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2015, 11:05:14 AM

Hey AC I couldnt agree more but maybe you should look at the model closer, electrons are expressed in blue current in red.
The model shows electrons moving from neg to pos and current moving from pos to neg.
The best of my understanding is is that current is a byproduct of electron flow and does not actually come from the battery.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2015, 12:42:20 PM

I think folks would actually benefit by looking at the battery connected to the circuit and realizing electron flow powers the circuit.
A boost converter raises the potential in a circuit but actually balances the battery faster whereas the buck converter recycles the electron.
The buck converter is more akin to a spinning flywheel but the potential (voltage) relaxes during the off cycle.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2015, 01:05:01 PM

So how do we boost the potential when the switch is off, we need to slingshot the electron around a magnetic pole to gain potential.
Sound familiar isnt that what they do with deep space satellites. Maybe I watched too much star trek when I was a kid ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on January 14, 2015, 01:06:12 PM

@Dave

QuoteHey AC I couldnt agree more but maybe you should look at the model closer,
electrons are expressed in blue current in red.
The model shows electrons moving from neg to pos and current moving from pos to neg.
The best of my understanding is is that current is a byproduct of electron flow and does not
actually come from the battery.

Yes I took a better look at the diagram. There are a few things to consider and generally I use the "charge mosaic" concept. A neutral body has a neutral charge of (+/-) and if we remove some electrons(-) which are masking the protons(+) fields then the body is said to have a (+) charge. If we add more electrons(-) to the object to mask the protons(+)fields then the object is said to have a (-) charge. So there are always the same number of electrons/protons in the system however the charged state thus the energy state relates to where the charges are in the system which determines where they move, our current.
We cannot have a current flow of positive charges because the Protons are not moving in the system only the electrons are and when an electron moves it produces a magnetic field. Here is where it gets tricky, what is Energy?, Energy is when a condition "changes" which causes motion and this motion can perform work(F x D). At which point we may see that the (-) terminal is losing some electrons and changing as well as the (+) terminal gaining some electrons and also changing. Thus the Energy in the system, a change in condition, always acts in both directions on both (+/-) terminals even though the physical flow of electrons, our current, is only moving in one direction. Which helps explain why the electrons move very very slow (electron drift) in the conductor and yet the Energy transfer can be very large. The Energy is the change in condition which acts in both directions and also produces another field where energy is stored which we call a magnetic field. A lot of shite going on in what we perceive as a simple circuit.
AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2015, 01:22:56 PM

Quote from: allcanadian on January 14, 2015, 01:06:12 PM
@DaveYes I took a better look at the diagram. There are a few things to consider and generally I use the "charge mosaic" concept. A neutral body has a neutral charge of (+/-) and if we remove some electrons(-) which are masking the protons(+) fields then the body is said to have a (+) charge. If we add more electrons(-) to the object to mask the protons(+)fields then the object is said to have a (-) charge. So there are always the same number of electrons/protons in the system however the charged state thus the energy state relates to where the charges are in the system which determines where they move, our current.
We cannot have a current flow of positive charges because the Protons are not moving in the system only the electrons are and when an electron moves it produces a magnetic field. Here is where it gets tricky, what is Energy?, Energy is when a condition "changes" which causes motion and this motion can perform work(F x D). At which point we may see that the (-) terminal is losing some electrons and changing as well as the (+) terminal gaining some electrons and also changing. Thus the Energy in the system, a change in condition, always acts in both directions on both (+/-) terminals even though the physical flow of electrons, our current, is only moving in one direction. Which helps explain why the electrons move very very slow (electron drift) in the conductor and yet the Energy transfer can be very large. The Energy is the change in condition which acts in both directions and also produces another field where energy is stored which we call a magnetic field. A lot of shite going on in what we perceive as a simple circuit.
AC

Yes I can understand your view and all avenues should be explored.
We will find the answer someday.
Im building, the weather is slowing me down and I spend alot of time contemplating trying to see all the angles.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2015, 01:44:02 PM

Iv posted this before and maybe you'v seen it but this simulation is what makes me think the current is a byproduct of electron flow.

This simulation shows current flow so you can see it runs opposite electron flow, when the switch is on the current flows from pos to neg and conversely the electron is flowing from neg to pos.

When the switch is off the current flows through the diode, now if current were a product of the battery it would flow straight into the neg terminal and it would be over but it doesnt and the only way to see whats really happening is to look at the circuit from an electron flow perspective.

When the switch turns on electrons move through the circuit from neg to pos when the switch turns off the electrons still moving in the circuit take the alternate path through the diode they are not attracted to ground so continue to circulate through the circuit.
This indicates that current is a byproduct of electron flow.
http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/PSU/psu31.php
About halfway down the page is a sim.

So as long as we have electron flow we will have current flow.

The problem with the circuit is potential, when the switch is on the battery supplies the potential but when the switch is off the potential relaxes and without potential the electron slows down.

It needs a kick during the off cycle and preferably one that doesnt require energy from the battery.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2015, 02:22:09 PM

I wonder if the magnet needs to be spinning as a planet is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_assist

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2015, 02:29:50 PM

Thats just not fair ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPLDAyICq2Y

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2015, 05:27:40 PM

I like the satellite analogy, Im gonna name my satellite Electron One ;D
They are doing something we cant they are using the orbital pull to add potential to the satellite but we can also do something they cant.
What if Electron One is brought in close looped around the planet then shot through the south pole exciting the north pole -------Scotty did we gain potential
Aye captain but the Z pinch scattered our shite all over the walls. ;D lol
I gotta get outa this house lol
cabin fever

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2015, 08:34:29 PM

Back to the battery
To charge the battery we run current into the pos terminal this causes the electrons to be extracted from the terminal and once they are removed we are back to a charged state.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 15, 2015, 04:16:47 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vziCrTCJSM

Do you know what your seeing,
This is the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 16, 2015, 06:26:58 AM

Thinking of the battery and electron movement
In the drive circuit the electrons are moving from neg to pos what happens if we use part of the receiving circuit to move electrons from pos to neg.
We dont have overunity but have extended the battery life.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 16, 2015, 07:29:19 AM

Lets consider the Mazzilli circuit.
Its used as a flyback driver or induction heater.
If used as an induction heater is it the changing magnetic field or is it eddy currents heating the core.
If its eddy currents heating the core can we channel those currents.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 16, 2015, 07:59:37 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 16, 2015, 08:20:44 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 15, 2015, 04:16:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vziCrTCJSM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vziCrTCJSM)

Do you know what your seeing,
This is the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge

If this is the fruit from the tree of knowledge, how are we going to eat it, or is it forbidden? :o :D
or is it a tree or a free of knowledge? ??? :D

or is it more safe to eat the tree? :o :D

and how about four? ;D

sorry soooo confused :-\

i think it was derive from: one little two little tree little indian. :-\ oh i got it, there is little indian on the top of the tree. ???

Titwotreefour ;D joke :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on January 16, 2015, 09:18:17 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 16, 2015, 07:29:19 AM
Lets consider the Mazzilli circuit.
Its used as a flyback driver or induction heater.
If used as an induction heater is it the changing magnetic field or is it eddy currents heating the core.
If its eddy currents heating the core can we channel those currents.

The output coil produces a changing magnetic field, sinusoidally changing in polarity. This changing magnetic field induces eddy currents in the conductive metal of the workpiece, changing direction as the inducing field changes direction. The eddy currents encounter resistance in the material of the workpiece and hence dissipate power in that resistance. The dissipating power heats the workpiece. The power comes from the input power to the oscillator. As the workpiece is inserted into the coil, the input power goes up accordingly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azMbJWr9Nqg

Can you channel those currents, to do something else? With appropriate coils, workpieces or cores, and excitation frequencies or pulses, sure. You can make can-crushers, railguns, washer-launchers, wireless power transfer systems, voltage and current transformers, magnetic levitation systems, inductive cooking hobs, etc etc, the possibilities are limited only by your imagination... and your understanding, or lack of it, of the phenomena involved.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 17, 2015, 06:40:05 AM

Tito: Re: 568176 figure 2

I've built Tesla's apparatus for producing currents of high frequency and potential:

What's next?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 17, 2015, 07:31:12 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on January 16, 2015, 09:18:17 PM
The output coil produces a changing magnetic field, sinusoidally changing in polarity. This changing magnetic field induces eddy currents in the conductive metal of the workpiece, changing direction as the inducing field changes direction. The eddy currents encounter resistance in the material of the workpiece and hence dissipate power in that resistance. The dissipating power heats the workpiece. The power comes from the input power to the oscillator. As the workpiece is inserted into the coil, the input power goes up accordingly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azMbJWr9Nqg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azMbJWr9Nqg)

Can you channel those currents, to do something else? With appropriate coils, workpieces or cores, and excitation frequencies or pulses, sure. You can make can-crushers, railguns, washer-launchers, wireless power transfer systems, voltage and current transformers, magnetic levitation systems, inductive cooking hobs, etc etc, the possibilities are limited only by your imagination... and your understanding, or lack of it, of the phenomena involved.

I figured it was eddy currents, if the magnetic field holds to a structure then we could assume that the eddy currents held to a structure as well and could be taped.

The battery exercises give us a little better understanding of whats happening, at least in a battery driven circuit.
I dont think we will ever find overunity taking input and output measurements, the very act of looping a system can change the dynamics of the whole system.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 17, 2015, 07:56:07 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 16, 2015, 08:20:44 PM

If this is the fruit from the tree of knowledge, how are we going to eat it, or is it forbidden? :o :D
or is it a tree or a free of knowledge? ??? :D

or is it more safe to eat the tree? :o :D

and how about four? ;D

sorry soooo confused :-\

i think it was derive from: one little two little tree little indian. :-\ oh i got it, there is little indian on the top of the tree. ???

Titwotreefour ;D joke :D

Now you know what I have been thinking for a while now.
Do we partake,
Adam and Eve ate of the fruit, they disobeyed God and innocence was lost.

But He gave us clues in the book of Job, where to look and He said He reserved it against the time of trouble.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 17, 2015, 09:29:11 AM

a.king21

How do you interprete the secondary of transformer in this Tesla patent ? What kind of load is pictured ? It seems like an open path ? Hmm...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 17, 2015, 10:37:03 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 17, 2015, 10:56:28 AM

This is what we are doing now converting voltage to amperage or amperage to voltage powering the load.
And cant figure out why our battery keeps running down.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 17, 2015, 10:57:13 AM

This is what we should be doing

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 17, 2015, 10:57:35 AM

or this

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on January 17, 2015, 12:58:54 PM

Hi Tito,

Have a question? please

" discharging a cap in a coil in one direction "

Is that related to 568176 patent of tesla? caps secret..

Any result from trying this before?

please, how to do this?
I really like to try it and find out!

Thank you and Best Regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 17, 2015, 02:59:55 PM

I asked a.king21 if he sees something strange in secondary of transformer in that Tesla patent. Guess what , it has hidden meaning, there are bulbs powered by single wire on top of each terminal of the secondary. The load across terminals are also not common incadescend lamps.It may be related to Tesla works on wireless transmission ......

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 17, 2015, 03:02:07 PM

Quote from: luc2010 on January 17, 2015, 12:58:54 PM
Hi Tito,

Have a question? please

" discharging a cap in a coil in one direction "

Is that related to 568176 patent of tesla? caps secret..

Any result from trying this before?

please, how to do this?
I really like to try it and find out!

Thank you and Best Regards
luc2010

Can you post where you saw that tip from Tito ? Very clever one ::) Yeah

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 17, 2015, 04:17:48 PM

As I've mentioned in my previous post, I've built the motor generator of Tesla's.
Of course it works in single wire mode. So what?
He didn't show an output on his Hv Hf circuit because he didn't need to.
I am busy mixing and matching the best capacitors and transformers. Some work, some don't.

Also I may alter the bushes so they do not cross the poles.
Yes it works as a Hv generator, and my version can take voltages from 12 volts to 240 volts.
Again that's Tesla's genius.
So again I ask you Tito?
What next??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 17, 2015, 06:46:49 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 17, 2015, 04:17:48 PM
As I've mentioned in my previous post, I've built the motor generator of Tesla's.
Of course it works in single wire mode. So what?
He didn't show an output on his Hv Hf circuit because he didn't need to.
I am busy mixing and matching the best capacitors and transformers. Some work, some don't.

Also I may alter the bushes so they do not cross the poles.
Yes it works as a Hv generator, and my version can take voltages from 12 volts to 240 volts.
Again that's Tesla's genius.
So again I ask you Tito?
What next??

there are lot of things to do like cascading lots of coils and separate them in different cores then its up to us what next then. :)
in this method we need to know the right combination of coils i said in the previous.

bye everyone i have to go.

no more answers from me.

i know you can do it. ;)

i think sir wattsup can add more on coils. ;)

titogo ;D let it go, let it go ;D i'm frozen ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 17, 2015, 07:19:26 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 26, 2014, 10:30:38 PM

So what's you're plan then ? :D ;D

There is actually i discover something about discharging a cap in a coil in one direction and that's amazing.

@ dave
That's good but we need to separate them to prohibit the mutual contact. ;)

@tototits ;D

Forest
Is this what you were looking for?
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 17, 2015, 09:07:55 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 17, 2015, 06:46:49 PM

there are lot of things to do like cascading lots of coils and separate them in different cores then its up to us what next then. :)
in this method we need to know the right combination of coils i said in the previous.

bye everyone i have to go.

no more answers from me.

i know you can do it. ;)

i think sir wattsup can add more on coils. ;)

titogo ;D let it go, let it go ;D i'm frozen ;D

"there are lot of things to do like cascading lots of coils and separate them in different cores then its up to us what next then. :)
in this method we need to know the right combination of coils i said in the previous."

Yep. "its up to us" Yep "we need to know the right combination of coils i said in the previous"

So. Its up to you guys. Did you get that guys? ::) Its very simple to just say, "you need to find the right combination of coils" and then maybe one of you guys will make 3 coils. 7 coils. 9 coils. 32 coils. etc, etc ,etc. Try different windings on them all, in many many many different ways of "cascading", what ever that 'actually' means. ??? ::) Series? Parallel? Series/parallel? Bifi windings? not bifi? Lots of turns of wire? Few? Speaker wire? Magnet wire? coax cable? ::) ::) ::) Zero sense of direction, period. ;)

Yep. Its 'ALL' up to us. ;) ::) Got it. That means ya get nuthin. ;) Nuthin but a HUGE wasting of your time. Where other threads, they are actually building things. Testing things. And they have a sense of direction. We dont have that here. What we have here is, "Yes, there is a big pot of gold, it is in a tree in south america. It s up to you to cut down every tree there and find it. I know you will find it. HAHAHA " Thats what we got here. ;) Basically. ;) ;) "Oh, there is a room full of silver in the sand in egypt. Get your shovels and start digging! Its up to you to find it. Its there. " "Keep digging fells, I enjoy watching you dig. Its fun. And funny. HAHAHA."

Yea, right. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

How many 'cascading' coils do we see in the patent currents of high freq......? ::) "There in there. Just keep looking fells." ::) ::) ::) 6 more years and there will be a whole new bunch of readers asking questions, that have already been asked over a decade. And what will they receive? ......

"bye everyone i have to go. no more answers from me." ;) ;) ;) ;) Again and again and again. And, again. And again. Always the same.

Yep. read it loud and clear guys. "NO MORE ANSWERS FROM ME." ;) ;) ;) How many times have we heard that and never 'really' take 'note' of it???? ??? ;)

Answers to what exactly? Well, there just may not be any answers, as 'history' should prove here in this thread. Not any with a real sense of direction.

Supposedly Tito 'got' what he wanted from others here, supposedly, then threw it in their faces that he got it from them and poked fun about it. Nice guy, ay? A wonderful person, right guys? ;) ;) Then, when he throws it in their faces, they come and ask, "what did you get from me? I would like to know." ;) ;) ;)

Remember guys, he loves you all. Right??? ::) ::) ::) ??? ;) He loves the game. He is addicted to the game.

Guys, keep on keeping on. Just do yourselves a big favor and walk away from this dead end thread. Do as you will. But there are others in other threads that will not tease you FOREVER. EMjunky has a thread on the bucking coils and shows a no lenz effect when loading or even shorting the output coil.

Now that I find very interesting. I find it very interesting that the middle sec even gets output, as it would seem that the 2 primaries opposing are set up to cancel. But he gets output. 3 separate coils in line on a core. the 2 outer coils are the primary and the one in the middle is the sec. One of the primary coils is wound opposite direction of the other, as was presented here days ago. If you want real answers, go to his thread. Has a nice pdf of info also. You wont get that from tito. EVER. Got that fells? ;) EVVVER. Partnered coils thread. You guys have to be getting tired of being dragged around like dogs with no legs. Because that is all you will get here, unless someone other than Tito shows up and 'really' helps out. Myself, I just dug out a nice transformer from a pc power supply and Im going to let it soak in a container of acetone to loosen up the core glue and remove the windings and build the bucking transformer EM 'shows' I wont be posting it here. But I will be there, in EMJs thread. ;) ;) ;)

Good luck and good will to all you whom have suffered this thread. We have learned a few things along the way. But those are not secret info. We just learned them because we are all desperate to find the real deal. But none of it so far has panned out to much of what we are all searching for.

If Tito has it, well, what ever. We need to get out of this rut of a thread and progress to new roads. Roads that actually have somewhere to be at the end of them.

Mags ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 18, 2015, 06:48:10 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on January 17, 2015, 07:19:26 PM
Forest
Is this what you were looking for?
Bob

Yes. It's worth deeper analysis. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on January 18, 2015, 12:08:56 PM

Sorry for my ignorance, i never see this circuit before?

Its just my crude attempt to make this '' one way tank circuit'' idea of Sir Tito.

Any help in this direction?

Best Regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 18, 2015, 04:03:43 PM

Since my other projects are on indefinite hold I have returned to this one. I do believe the Tesla patents for currents of high frequency and potential have merit for OU purposes. IMHO there are several key conditions that must be met in order to proceed.

The first is that the discharge of the condensers through the primary must be oscillatory, which is determined by the relationship of inductance, capacitance, resistance and current between the condensers and primary coil.
The primary winding should be 2 to 4 turns of heavy gauge wire with a high strand count.
The choking coils should be high self inductance with a high energy storage capacity, bi-filar.

The big key is the oscillatory transformer primary circuit. For one discharge of the condensers you will get many pulses through the primary coil with just as many high voltage pulses from the secondary. This is the energy amplification part.

The discharge current oscillates between two condensers with the low resistance primary coil between them. The current of the oscillation decays at a rate determined by the resistance of this primary circuit so the condensers only partially discharge. We do not have to recharge the condensers from zero. Tesla said the shorting of the circuit should be so rapid that the iron in the self-induction coils will only partially demagnetize.

Simplified, we have a transmission circuit where we are boosting the voltage to a high level and frequency, with many free output pulses, and then later we can transform it back down for use.

Also see Tesla patents 568178, 577670 and 583953.

Tito, this is not all there is to it, but if I am wrong so far, please jump in here and say so.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 18, 2015, 04:57:15 PM

Cadman, I think you have to merge this oscillation with ordinary power to get an effect. You can do this by twisting output wires together.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 19, 2015, 01:07:20 AM

Cadman, aking.21

To sustain oscillation this factor must be preserved :

4*L/C > R^2 or better 4*L/C >> R^2

this is also the reason why Tesla eliminated distributed capacitance and talked about large inductance. (but it is not necessary)

Another is antenna or extra coil gain :

E=E0*w*L/R where w*L/R is Q factor and w=2*Pi*f

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/coloradonotes04.htm Diagram 1 first picture looks like Stan Meyer method ;-)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 19, 2015, 08:07:48 AM

amplification first stage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH_u1JXGqc8

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 19, 2015, 09:02:27 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on January 17, 2015, 09:07:55 PM
"there are lot of things to do like cascading lots of coils and separate them in different cores then its up to us what next then. :)
in this method we need to know the right combination of coils i said in the previous."

Yep. "its up to us" Yep "we need to know the right combination of coils i said in the previous"

So. Its up to you guys. Did you get that guys? ::) Its very simple to just say, "you need to find the right combination of coils" and then maybe one of you guys will make 3 coils. 7 coils. 9 coils. 32 coils. etc, etc ,etc. Try different windings on them all, in many many many different ways of "cascading", what ever that 'actually' means. ??? ::) Series? Parallel? Series/parallel? Bifi windings? not bifi? Lots of turns of wire? Few? Speaker wire? Magnet wire? coax cable? ::) ::) ::) Zero sense of direction, period. ;)

Yep. Its 'ALL' up to us. ;) ::) Got it. That means ya get nuthin. ;) Nuthin but a HUGE wasting of your time. Where other threads, they are actually building things. Testing things. And they have a sense of direction. We dont have that here. What we have here is, "Yes, there is a big pot of gold, it is in a tree in south america. It s up to you to cut down every tree there and find it. I know you will find it. HAHAHA " Thats what we got here. ;) Basically. ;) ;) "Oh, there is a room full of silver in the sand in egypt. Get your shovels and start digging! Its up to you to find it. Its there. " "Keep digging fells, I enjoy watching you dig. Its fun. And funny. HAHAHA."

Yea, right. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

How many 'cascading' coils do we see in the patent currents of high freq......? ::) "There in there. Just keep looking fells." ::) ::) ::) 6 more years and there will be a whole new bunch of readers asking questions, that have already been asked over a decade. And what will they receive? ......

"bye everyone i have to go. no more answers from me." ;) ;) ;) ;) Again and again and again. And, again. And again. Always the same.

Yep. read it loud and clear guys. "NO MORE ANSWERS FROM ME." ;) ;) ;) How many times have we heard that and never 'really' take 'note' of it? ??? ??? ;)

Answers to what exactly? Well, there just may not be any answers, as 'history' should prove here in this thread. Not any with a real sense of direction.

Supposedly Tito 'got' what he wanted from others here, supposedly, then threw it in their faces that he got it from them and poked fun about it. Nice guy, ay? A wonderful person, right guys? ;) ;) Then, when he throws it in their faces, they come and ask, "what did you get from me? I would like to know." ;) ;) ;)

Remember guys, he loves you all. Right??? ::) ::) ::) ??? ;) He loves the game. He is addicted to the game.

Guys, keep on keeping on. Just do yourselves a big favor and walk away from this dead end thread. Do as you will. But there are others in other threads that will not tease you FOREVER. EMjunky has a thread on the bucking coils and shows a no lenz effect when loading or even shorting the output coil.

Now that I find very interesting. I find it very interesting that the middle sec even gets output, as it would seem that the 2 primaries opposing are set up to cancel. But he gets output. 3 separate coils in line on a core. the 2 outer coils are the primary and the one in the middle is the sec. One of the primary coils is wound opposite direction of the other, as was presented here days ago. If you want real answers, go to his thread. Has a nice pdf of info also. You wont get that from tito. EVER. Got that fells? ;) EVVVER. Partnered coils thread. You guys have to be getting tired of being dragged around like dogs with no legs. Because that is all you will get here, unless someone other than Tito shows up and 'really' helps out. Myself, I just dug out a nice transformer from a pc power supply and Im going to let it soak in a container of acetone to loosen up the core glue and remove the windings and build the bucking transformer EM 'shows' I wont be posting it here. But I will be there, in EMJs thread. ;) ;) ;)

Good luck and good will to all you whom have suffered this thread. We have learned a few things along the way. But those are not secret info. We just learned them because we are all desperate to find the real deal. But none of it so far has panned out to much of what we are all searching for.

If Tito has it, well, what ever. We need to get out of this rut of a thread and progress to new roads. Roads that actually have somewhere to be at the end of them.

Mags ;)

Again!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(

if they only knew how near they are from truth! >:(

NO ONE IS BOUND HERE!!!!!! EVERYONE IS FREEEEE TO GO TO ANY THREAD UNDERSTAND!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(

I AM NOT FORCING YOU TO BELIEVE ME ALRIGHT!!!!! >:( AGAIN EVERYONE IS FREEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU HAVE NOTHING, NADA TO SHOW HERE BUT TO DISTRACT ME AND SHOW THAT I AM BAD AND LEARNED NOTHING AND ALWAYS
TRY TO CONVINCE EVERYONE TO GO TO OTHER THREAD SO WHAT!!!!!! YOU#@$%$%#$%#$%^%&%*^&*^&* >:( >:( >:( >:( WINNER :D ;D

YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE ARE LOTS OR REAL LIARS HERE, AND THEY DON'T REALLY GIVE WHAT THEY HAVE.

AGAIN , I UNDERSTAND THEM.

THEY DON'T CLAIM SO THAT NO ONE WILL ASK ;D CLEVER ISN'T IT?
I CLAIM AND SAY EVERY TRUTH EVEN ITS HURT AND SAY THAT I WILL NOT GIVE THE DETAIL TO EVERYONE BUT AT LEAST I'M TRUTH TO IT AND ITS TRUTH. GOT IT? >:(

I'M @#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$ TITRUTH ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 19, 2015, 10:30:15 AM

a.king21
I have no idea what you mean by merging with ordinary power. Could you elaborate?

Forest,
Thanks for the interesting info & video.

Regarding useful formulas, Lord Kelvin in 1853 published a paper with equations for energy in which oscillatory discharge was obtained when CR/4 < L/R and the frequency of the oscillation is given as (5.033 * 10^6) / SQRT(CL), with L in centimeters ( 1 milli-henry = 1,000,000 centimeters ) and C in micro-farads. I'm sure you already know that, just thought it might be useful to someone.

Peace to you, Tito.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 19, 2015, 11:47:31 AM

Cadman.
Carlos Benitez made it very clear in this patent.
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191514311A.pdf (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191514311A.pdf)

Page 4 1st 2 paragraphs.

It could not be clearer.
In an ordinary circuit it is impossible to get more out than in by definition. So some energy has to come from elsewhere.

RE the Tesla patents Tito advised.
They are similar to the igniter patent and the patent for producing ozone.
I've already obtained a run time of 20 seconds on capacitors only, so there
is room for improvement.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 19, 2015, 01:01:44 PM

a.king21,

Oh, you meant literally :) I thought you might be implying a merge through mutual inductance.

Indeed, the energy has to come from somewhere. Tesla referred to the earth as being a vast reservoir of negative electricity, and I am intrigued by the high currents observed in the captor loop of the Barbosa and Leal device replications. Amp-turns. Tito even mentioned transformers with one wire to ground as OU.

Tesla spent a lot of effort and money to get all of these related patents, didn't he.

PS. I hope you will share the details of your build when you are ready.

@luc2010 & forest

Did you ever consider what Tito said about discharging a cap in a coil in one direction might be taken as a discovery that doing so drastically reduced his output? Just a thought.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 19, 2015, 02:39:03 PM

My build is an exact replication of Tesla's patent for the production of high frequency. Including a Tesla controller switching mechanism. I then mess about with adding extra feedback loops and extra coils and caps. Just like Tito recommends. It's not OU.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 19, 2015, 04:00:32 PM

I think it's well worth duplicating Benitez's battery system. It can be done with nimhs but you need a switching device for the high frequency input. It will teach you a lot.
Also Benitez shows a complete patent and leaves nothing out. Everything you need is there, but it takes a lot of time to understand what he means, especially with early 20th century legal language. It took me at least six weeks of study and replication attempts. Even now I am still learning, especially regarding which components work and which do not. You definitely need high frequency transformers or it won't work.
It is very close to Tesla's high frequency apparatus, except he takes it a stage further by showing ou.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on January 19, 2015, 05:23:07 PM

Where does Tito get the electricity to power his home?

I'll tell you where he _doesn't_ get it, and that is from anything he has ever posted here. So why do people give him any credence at all? He is "teaching" something he does not know how to do himself.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 19, 2015, 05:28:25 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on January 19, 2015, 05:23:07 PM
Where does Tito get the electricity to power his home?

I'll tell you where he _doesn't_ get it, and that is from anything he has ever posted here. So why do people give him any credence at all? He is "teaching" something he does not know how to do himself.

Ok let's apply your own logic. You say statements need proof.
Where is your proof that Tito is a liar?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on January 19, 2015, 05:50:58 PM

Quote from: forest on January 19, 2015, 08:07:48 AM
amplification first stage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH_u1JXGqc8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH_u1JXGqc8)

The guy doesn't even know what the markings on his capacitor mean. "Ten Joules 250 volts" he says at around the 50 second mark, and that it "doesn't have any capacity".
The "J" means that the cap has a 5 percent tolerance (accuracy) in the marked capacitance. Not "JOULES". It's hard to read due to the blurry out-of-focus but it is very likely to be a 1 uF capacitor, judging by the size and voltage rating compared to some similar poly-film types in my capacitor box, hardly "doesn't have any capacity" . Normally a marking of "10J" would indicate 10pF at 5 percent tolerance _on a ceramic cap_. But this is a fairly physically large poly film cap and we may not be seeing a missing decimal point. "1.0J" or ".10J" are more likely values for a cap of that physical size and material at 250 V. It could even be a 10 uF capacitor.

This is NOT "energy amplification", it is only a naive illustration of _peak power_ ampification. Storing energy in a capacitor over a long period of time (the time between shorting the capacitor with a spark) and discharging it over a short time period (the actual time that the sparking is happening) is nothing new, and the presenter of the video is not demonstrating what he apparently thinks he's demonstrating.

He thinks his capacitor doesn't have any capacity. But it does, as the video clearly illustrates.

Below is a photo of a 10 pF 2kV capacitor:

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on January 19, 2015, 05:53:56 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 19, 2015, 05:28:25 PM

Ok let's apply your own logic. You say statements need proof.
Where is your proof that Tito is a liar?

You've got it wrong, my friend. Where is the proof that Tito is telling the truth? Read Mags's post above, he understands where Tito is coming from.

Go ahead, ask Tito where he gets the electricity to power his home. He'll dodge the question, as he has done so many times before, since to admit that he still is connected to the grid just wouldn't look very good for someone who claims to know the Secrets of Free Energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dieter on January 19, 2015, 07:11:30 PM

Luc,

since there is a bridge rectifier, I must assume the input is AC. The caps in series will act as high pass, or in other words, caps in series ate conductive as long as the voltage is changing, and depending on their capacitance, the higher the AC frequency, the more they let trough. So yes, it does limit the input, frequency dependant.

But I have no idea why tesla puts a coil to the dc end of the rectifier, that's only a simple electromagnet.

Furthermore, tesla had no diodes, at least not such ones.

BR

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 19, 2015, 09:02:37 PM

Quote from: dieter on January 19, 2015, 07:11:30 PM
Luc,

since there is a bridge rectifier, I must assume the input is AC. The caps in series will act as high pass, or in other words, caps in series ate conductive as long as the voltage is changing, and depending on their capacitance, the higher the AC frequency, the more they let trough. So yes, it does limit the input, frequency dependant.

But I have no idea why tesla puts a coil to the dc end of the rectifier, that's only a simple electromagnet.

Furthermore, tesla had no diodes, at least not such ones.

BR

From what I read, Colorado Springs I believe, the input caps were to limit current flow if something bad happens to the system of the device. The cap allows enough current for normal operation, but if something gets damaged and/or shorted, the caps limit the current to not cause more damage if the problem happens.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 20, 2015, 02:12:08 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on January 19, 2015, 05:50:58 PM
The guy doesn't even know what the markings on his capacitor mean. "Ten Joules 250 volts" he says at around the 50 second mark, and that it "doesn't have any capacity".
The "J" means that the cap has a 5 percent tolerance (accuracy) in the marked capacitance. Not "JOULES". It's hard to read due to the blurry out-of-focus but it is very likely to be a 1 uF capacitor, judging by the size and voltage rating compared to some similar poly-film types in my capacitor box, hardly "doesn't have any capacity" . Normally a marking of "10J" would indicate 10pF at 5 percent tolerance _on a ceramic cap_. But this is a fairly physically large poly film cap and we may not be seeing a missing decimal point. "1.0J" or ".10J" are more likely values for a cap of that physical size and material at 250 V. It could even be a 10 uF capacitor.

This is NOT "energy amplification", it is only a naive illustration of _peak power_ ampification. Storing energy in a capacitor over a long period of time (the time between shorting the capacitor with a spark) and discharging it over a short time period (the actual time that the sparking is happening) is nothing new, and the presenter of the video is not demonstrating what he apparently thinks he's demonstrating.

He thinks his capacitor doesn't have any capacity. But it does, as the video clearly illustrates.

Below is a photo of a 10 pF 2kV capacitor:

Yes, peak power. But it was repeatable from dead batteries. Why is that important ? stiveip has given one example about car. ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on January 20, 2015, 07:26:56 AM

Quote from: forest on January 20, 2015, 02:12:08 AM

Yes, peak power. But it was repeatable from dead batteries. Why is that important ? stiveip has given one example about car. ::)

You are kidding, right? The demonstration proves that the batteries weren't exactly "dead" at all.

They still have enough voltage to produce a charging current that charges the capacitor. Obviously. And if you calculate the remainng energy content of the batteries, and the energy in a 10uF capacitor charged to 40 or 50 volts, whatever, you will see that those sparks are not actually very energetic and that the "dead" batteries could still deliver a fair number of them.

Keep doing the charging and discharging of the capacitor and with each cycle the battery voltage will drop just a little, the charging current will drop just a little, and just a little less energy will be transferred to the capacitor, so each successive spark will be weaker and weaker.

The simplest demonstration of this would be to take that stack of batteries and hook up a voltmeter to it and watch the voltage while somebody charges and sparks the capacitor over and over and over. Keep doing it, I +guarantee+ that the batteries will keep running down. Eventually they will get to the point where they are _really_ dead and can't put an appreciable amount of energy into the capacitor. The spark will be feeble and will be getting feebler.

The capacitor and the stack of 9v batteries have very different discharge characteristics. The battery stack can't deliver the peak current that the capacitor can. It's a matter of relative impedance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 20, 2015, 09:49:19 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on January 20, 2015, 07:26:56 AM
You are kidding, right? The demonstration proves that the batteries weren't exactly "dead" at all.

They still have enough voltage to produce a charging current that charges the capacitor. Obviously. And if you calculate the remainng energy content of the batteries, and the energy in a 10uF capacitor charged to 40 or 50 volts, whatever, you will see that those sparks are not actually very energetic and that the "dead" batteries could still deliver a fair number of them.

Keep doing the charging and discharging of the capacitor and with each cycle the battery voltage will drop just a little, the charging current will drop just a little, and just a little less energy will be transferred to the capacitor, so each successive spark will be weaker and weaker.

The simplest demonstration of this would be to take that stack of batteries and hook up a voltmeter to it and watch the voltage while somebody charges and sparks the capacitor over and over and over. Keep doing it, I +guarantee+ that the batteries will keep running down. Eventually they will get to the point where they are _really_ dead and can't put an appreciable amount of energy into the capacitor. The spark will be feeble and will be getting feebler.

Of course this is true. Did someone claim otherwise?

Quote
The capacitor and the stack of 9v batteries have very different discharge characteristics. The battery stack can't deliver the peak current that the capacitor can. It's a matter of relative impedance.

And that is the important point.

Thanks for confirming it.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 20, 2015, 12:19:14 PM

Ha ha ha Cadman , good catch ! Tinsel , we have got you ! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on January 20, 2015, 10:40:47 PM

Quote from: forest on January 20, 2015, 12:19:14 PM
Ha ha ha Cadman , good catch ! Tinsel , we have got you ! ;D ;D ;D ;D

What are you talking about? "Got me" in what way? Have you suddenly discovered that batteries, especially discharged 9v batteries, can't deliver the high peak currents that poly film capacitors can? This is news to someone? Well, of course it is to the video author, and evidently to you. But everybody else knows this. Go ahead and try to use that _known fact_ to create some energy. Go ahead! You cannot.

Maybe you'd like to post another video where the author clearly has no clue about what he is demonstrating, and use that as some kind of "evidence" for something. There are plenty of them out there.

Let's review: The video author says the batteries are "dead". They clearly are not; they may be substantially discharged but they are far from "dead" as they supply plenty of energy to the capacitor.
The author says that the "J" in the capacitor marking means "Joules". It clearly does not; it means that the capacitor has 5 percent tolerance in its marked value.
The author says that the capacitor has "no capacitance" when it is evidently a 10uF poly film capacitor, hardly negligible.
The author makes no measurements of the voltage on the stack of batteries, which would show that it drops a bit with every cap charge-spark cycle, hence the "repeatability" is just an illusion, as each cycle dissipates power that will not be replaced into the batteries.
The author makes no measurements of the charging or discharging current supplied to or by the capacitor, or by the batteries during the direct short. These are easy to make _if you know how_, which the author clearly does not.

So just how have you "got me"? I am sorry to be so right so often, as it seems to upset you somehow. No... wait.... I'm not sorry at all.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 20, 2015, 11:38:29 PM

I like that build Tinsel. Can it light up a household 7 watt bulb?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 22, 2015, 12:12:55 AM

Quote from: Cadman on January 18, 2015, 04:03:43 PM
Since my other projects are on indefinite hold I have returned to this one. I do believe the Tesla patents for currents of high frequency and potential have merit for OU purposes. IMHO there are several key conditions that must be met in order to proceed.

The first is that the discharge of the condensers through the primary must be oscillatory, which is determined by the relationship of inductance, capacitance, resistance and current between the condensers and primary coil.
The primary winding should be 2 to 4 turns of heavy gauge wire with a high strand count.
The choking coils should be high self inductance with a high energy storage capacity, bi-filar.

The big key is the oscillatory transformer primary circuit. For one discharge of the condensers you will get many pulses through the primary coil with just as many high voltage pulses from the secondary. This is the energy amplification part.

The discharge current oscillates between two condensers with the low resistance primary coil between them. The current of the oscillation decays at a rate determined by the resistance of this primary circuit so the condensers only partially discharge. We do not have to recharge the condensers from zero. Tesla said the shorting of the circuit should be so rapid that the iron in the self-induction coils will only partially demagnetize.

Simplified, we have a transmission circuit where we are boosting the voltage to a high level and frequency, with many free output pulses, and then later we can transform it back down for use.

Also see Tesla patents 568178, 577670 and 583953.

Tito, this is not all there is to it, but if I am wrong so far, please jump in here and say so.

Regards

Hey body, don't say it in detail ok?, cause there are many people here that are out of the box ;D

$TK
you want to know where i'm getting my free energy?, its comes from out of the box. ;D :P

Gosh lots of sources!!!!! :o The important thing is do not kill the source. :)

Bigtitsbox ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on January 22, 2015, 12:38:02 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 20, 2015, 11:38:29 PM
I like that build Tinsel. Can it light up a household 7 watt bulb?

Not that one, no. But this one can:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kulGKroR0yA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x2YfA9LU5s

@Tito: Now let's see +your+ box doing something interesting.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Rigel4 on January 22, 2015, 08:52:22 AM

I think I found a very very early TK video. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421782837&v=D-TXgj2wZOQ&x-yt-cl=84359240#t=133 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421782837&v=D-TXgj2wZOQ&x-yt-cl=84359240#t=133)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 22, 2015, 08:53:09 AM

WHAT??!!

NO MEASUREMENTS OF POWER IN VS. POWER OUT?

LOTS OF PLACES TO HIDE BATTERIES IN THAT RIG!

NO CIRCUIT FOR EXAMINATION?

NO EXPLANATION AT ALL, JUST A VIDEO THAT PROVES NOTHING?

ANYBODY COULD TRANSMIT ENOUGH WIRELESS POWER TO ACTIVATE A SWITCH!

SEEN PLENTY OF OTHER VIDS ON INDUCTION TOO.

Just yankin your chain a little TK & havin a little fun. :)

Interesting videos really. Thanks.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 22, 2015, 10:52:02 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 22, 2015, 12:12:55 AM

Hey body, don't say it in detail ok?, cause there are many people here that are out of the box ;D

$TK
you want to know where i'm getting my free energy?, its comes from out of the box. ;D :P

Gosh lots of sources!!!!! :o The important thing is do not kill the source. :)

Bigtitsbox ;D

Can I see your box Tito? ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 22, 2015, 11:35:05 AM

Quote from: Rigel4 on January 22, 2015, 08:52:22 AM
I think I found a very very early TK video. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421782837&v=D-TXgj2wZOQ&x-yt-cl=84359240#t=133 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421782837&v=D-TXgj2wZOQ&x-yt-cl=84359240#t=133)

Nah, you're mistaken. That's not our TK. That's the newest version... TK 4.1

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 25, 2015, 02:29:05 AM

nah!!! :o you're mistaken :o

i said out of the box :D

some other time bro. :)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 25, 2015, 07:18:12 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 25, 2015, 02:29:05 AM
nah!!! :o you're mistaken :o

i said out of the box :D

some other time bro. :)

;D

"some other time bro." = Never!! ;)

Tell me. Am I lying? ??? ;)

From the beginning, "I have it" "I can run a refrigerator on a AA battery" "I have discovered many ways to make free energy" " I will show 'soon' " "My brother wont let me show, sorry"

Its not going to happen guys. At times he will make you think you are 'close' but you never get around the corner to see it. And he wont help you whether you should make a left or right turn at the corner. But will brag of new discoveries, only to keep you here suffering even longer.

Some may continue to wait and plead for answers. I did for a long time. Can anyone give me, or anyone here, a 'good' reason why we should wait any longer????

Sometimes I think, when we think of suppression, that maybe tito is a suppressor. Here to 'lead' others on to a path to 'NOWHERE'. Nobody here can refute that assumption as being a real possibility.

My words wont stop the desperate ones. These are the ones that feed titos want to see them suffer. He will always be around as long as people have desire for his 'secrets'. Secrets that will never come out. As he has said, his brother wont let him tell. He is keeping them for his children. Seemingly a noble cause, the children. If so, then why divulge anything at all EVER? Why RISK that his children wont have anything special if the 'secret' got out? So many contradictions over the years.

How many people here know of 'anyone' that has claimed many ways to OU, 'AND' proven even 1 of them? Yet he has many and keeps on teasing. ::) ::) ::) ::) And you people, over the 'YEARS', have what? ;)

When I first came to this thread, what I saw and read had me calling tito a tease of the worst kind. Some how I eventually fell for the idea he may have something. Years of my time. Funny thing is, Im back to where I was in the beginning. I will not fall in that hole again. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 26, 2015, 01:25:45 AM

Whatever you think , Mags - every hole has a bottom or the other side ;D No, I have no complete solution yet, it's just a small philosophical concept ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 26, 2015, 02:46:09 PM

One last try. Is anyone interested in this thread's subject?

-------------------------

Electric charge has inertia.

A capacitor:
Charge does not flow through a capacitor.
Capacitor operation is analogous to a cue stick (as volts or pressure) and pool balls (as electrons).

For every electron forced into one side of the cap by pressure, an electron is knocked out of the other side, and vice versa.

Say we have a source of generated charge (electrons), a perfect capacitor with no inherent losses, and a device that dissipates charges.

On one side of the cap we force in 1 joule from our generator and 1 joule comes out the opposite side and into our device at the same time. We transmitted 1 joule.

BUT, now we have a capacitor that is charged to a higher potential (pressure) on one side. The charge is unbalanced.

At the instant that charges cease to flow out of the cap, disconnect the low potential side of the cap from the device and hook it to an external source of free electrons. Discharge the high pressure side of the cap into our device of lower potential and let the external source of free electrons replenish the electrons in the low side of the cap and balance the charges.

How much potential, or charge imbalance, is left in the cap?
How many joules did we transmit? Less than one? One? More than one?

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 26, 2015, 02:59:32 PM

I like it Cadman. I think chokes on Tesla patent are for it. :-\ Right ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 26, 2015, 08:46:32 PM

Quote from: forest on January 26, 2015, 02:59:32 PM
I like it Cadman. I think chokes on Tesla patent are for it. :-\ Right ?

Hi forest,

IMO, no. The chokes are chokes but they are mainly a means to store charge for the caps, just as the patent claims.

OK, do you remember when Tito said he found the replacement for the spark gap? What did Tesla use a spark gap for?

Apparatus for Producing Electrical Currents of High Frequency and Potential. Tesla patent 568176 and related. Those patents are exactly what they claim to be. See them for what they also are, a spark gap effect by a different method, with an oscillation transformer attached. A Tesla coil.

Don't you think connecting some caps to each end of one of those high potential oscillation coils could produce some amazing results if you used them as I described in my previous post?

Oh BTW, did you know that less than a hundred years ago EEs considered electrical frequencies greater than 100 cps to be high frequency? In one of those patents Tesla mentioned that oscillations of almost any frequency were obtainable.

"... there are lot of things to do like cascading lots of coils and separate them in different cores.. ".

1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 x ...

Snowball rolling down the mountain side...

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 27, 2015, 12:53:02 AM

Sorry I don'tt understand. Have to sleep more less coffee :-[

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 27, 2015, 09:00:40 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on January 25, 2015, 07:18:12 PM

"some other time bro." = Never!! ;)

Tell me. Am I lying? ??? ;)

From the beginning, "I have it" "I can run a refrigerator on a AA battery" "I have discovered many ways to make free energy" " I will show 'soon' " "My brother wont let me show, sorry"

Its not going to happen guys. At times he will make you think you are 'close' but you never get around the corner to see it. And he wont help you whether you should make a left or right turn at the corner. But will brag of new discoveries, only to keep you here suffering even longer.

Some may continue to wait and plead for answers. I did for a long time. Can anyone give me, or anyone here, a 'good' reason why we should wait any longer? ???

Sometimes I think, when we think of suppression, that maybe tito is a suppressor. Here to 'lead' others on to a path to 'NOWHERE'. Nobody here can refute that assumption as being a real possibility.

My words wont stop the desperate ones. These are the ones that feed titos want to see them suffer. He will always be around as long as people have desire for his 'secrets'. Secrets that will never come out. As he has said, his brother wont let him tell. He is keeping them for his children. Seemingly a noble cause, the children. If so, then why divulge anything at all EVER? Why RISK that his children wont have anything special if the 'secret' got out? So many contradictions over the years.

How many people here know of 'anyone' that has claimed many ways to OU, 'AND' proven even 1 of them? Yet he has many and keeps on teasing. ::) ::) ::) ::) And you people, over the 'YEARS', have what? ;)

When I first came to this thread, what I saw and read had me calling tito a tease of the worst kind. Some how I eventually fell for the idea he may have something. Years of my time. Funny thing is, Im back to where I was in the beginning. I will not fall in that hole again. ;)

Mags

ok friend lets stop, i don't want to quarrel with you anymore, think whatever you want to think understand?, i have made and says already my reason from all of what you have said. :)

complication is just made by you because that is what you are looking in the first place. :P

now!, like what i said before, EVERYONE IS FREE TO GO TO OTHER THREAD OKAY?, GOT THAT?, AND
I AM NOT NOT NOT BOUNDING ANYONE HERE, DID YOU GOT THAT AGAIN Mrs?

First and foremost, there are lots of thinking freed to what i am saying here, and there are lot of thread develop because of my thread. :)

and what did i got but bunch of insult from someone and you. >:(

and and and an unthankful attitude. >:(

Yo know what?, i always admire those people that give and shed a light from something even its a very very very little info only. :)

now if you didn't learned along the way in this thread, why are you always here and why give time reading and opening this thread? YOU ARE NOT BOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(

AND WHAT SUFFERING ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? >:(
CAN'T YOU NOT DECIDE TO GO OUT HERE IF YOU ARE EXPERIENCING SUFFERING? ??? ??? HUH!!! >:( >:(

WHAT KIND OF THINKING IS THAT? frankenstein >:(

everything is learning, i don't know why you can't learn. :-\

hope everyone understand, if you feel tease just go out okay and don't go here. :(
this is my way, i'm just happy and i am actually a friendly person just don't force and provoke me. :D

So your sense of posting here is that you are convincing other to go out or to not to post here?, is that what you want? :o
ok i'll help you.

EVERYONE EVERYONE WAKE UP: YOU WILL NOT GET ANYTHING HERE JUST GO OUT OF HERE, YOU WILL SUFFER HERE. HAPPY NOW? :)

NOW AGAIN AND AGAIN IF YOU AGAIN DON'T MIND.......................

WHY CADMAN SMELLS SOMETHING. :-\ OR ARE YOU JUST HYPOCRITE OR A SUPPRESSOR. :D THINK OF IT. :P TONGUER ;D

DON'T MIND ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 27, 2015, 11:24:12 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 27, 2015, 09:00:40 PM

ok friend lets stop, i don't want to quarrel with you anymore, think whatever you want to think understand?, i have made and says already my reason from all of what you have said. :)

complication is just made by you because that is what you are looking in the first place. :P

now!, like what i said before, EVERYONE IS FREE TO GO TO OTHER THREAD OKAY?, GOT THAT?, AND
I AM NOT NOT NOT BOUNDING ANYONE HERE, DID YOU GOT THAT AGAIN Mrs?

First and foremost, there are lots of thinking freed to what i am saying here, and there are lot of thread develop because of my thread. :)

and what did i got but bunch of insult from someone and you. >:(

and and and an unthankful attitude. >:(

Yo know what?, i always admire those people that give and shed a light from something even its a very very very little info only. :)

now if you didn't learned along the way in this thread, why are you always here and why give time reading and opening this thread? YOU ARE NOT BOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(

AND WHAT SUFFERING ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? >:(
CAN'T YOU NOT DECIDE TO GO OUT HERE IF YOU ARE EXPERIENCING SUFFERING? ??? ??? HUH!!! >:( >:(

WHAT KIND OF THINKING IS THAT? frankenstein >:(

everything is learning, i don't know why you can't learn. :-\

hope everyone understand, if you feel tease just go out okay and don't go here. :(
this is my way, i'm just happy and i am actually a friendly person just don't force and provoke me. :D

So your sense of posting here is that you are convincing other to go out or to not to post here?, is that what you want? :o
ok i'll help you.

EVERYONE EVERYONE WAKE UP: YOU WILL NOT GET ANYTHING HERE JUST GO OUT OF HERE, YOU WILL SUFFER HERE. HAPPY NOW? :)

NOW AGAIN AND AGAIN IF YOU AGAIN DON'T MIND.......................

WHY CADMAN SMELLS SOMETHING. :-\ OR ARE YOU JUST HYPOCRITE OR A SUPPRESSOR. :D THINK OF IT. :P TONGUER ;D

DON'T MIND ;D

Bah. Its like Forest said. What ever I think.

If I were to make an analogy to what I think, then....

Tito has a Gibson guitar repair shop. His shop is the only shop that can repair Gibson guitars, in the whole world, as it says in the sign on the front window. That would make him pretty valuable to people that own Gibson guitars. Tito is the guy. He is the man. ;D

You walk into titos shop, and there are Gibsons everywhere. All of them are in for repair and customers are lined up outside the door to bring Tito their Gibson guitars, to have them repaired and tuned.

Since Tito had opened up his shop, putting new and better signs in the window of his famous one and only Gibson guitar repair shop, the customers lined up in the streets, carrying their gibsons, eager to have them fixed.

As time goes on, one begins to notice, notice that nobody has ever walked out of the shop with a guitar in hand. Because the Gibson repair shop never lived up to the statements that the signs in the front window portrayed.

Eventually, there are no more lines of people at the front door. The same guitars, sitting on racks, disassembled in boxes, from years ago, still sit. Waiting to be fixed and played. Some customers dont even bother calling any more. Some diehards still stop in. Some to complain, some to still say,

"Hey Teets. I know you can do it. Please fix my Gibson. Thank you Teets. Hope you will help me out someday soon. Ill stop in tomorrow and see how your doing."

So yeah. Sometimes I feel like standing outside the guitar shop and if I see someone coming with a Gibson to have fixed, I would tell them not to come to this shop. You wont get your Gibson repaired here. Not one guitar has left the shop since it opened for business. Save them some trouble.

You know Tito, for a long time, I was all in. I had real hope. Maybe you just cant understand what it has all become. I dunno.

Some here right now have real hope still. I just cant hold my breath any longer. I feel Ive mostly given up with this thread. I still value a lot of the ideas, but without the key, the twist, what ever that is, none of it helps us with our goals and intentions we came here with. Not yet anyway.

They have hope because they feel recently that they are being hinted to that they are close. But how many times in the past have we been told that we are close and are left to just lose our ways? Its not right. Somehow, you think it is. ???

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on January 27, 2015, 11:54:03 PM

@Mags

You know last year I was pushing Tito much like you are and it never worked for me. I wanted it to be given to me on a silver platter, given to me as if somehow I was entitled to it...I was not. I am happy he didn't because I was forced to find my own way as we all are. We are entitled to nothing unless we are willing to work for it, we are entitled to nothing unless we are willing to change our perspective and find our own answers.

Is it not enough to enjoy the conversation, is it not enough to share what we are willing to share with one another, who are we to say we deserve anything?. In retrospect Tito made me think and I thank him for that, he made me think how this could work and why it would work from my perspective.

In the words of T.H.Moray-- you cannot prove anything to anyone who is not willing to prove it for themselves.

It's not as if your doing anything wrong you are unwilling to accept what you already know. Let it go, all that BS you have been told and find your own way. That is the way you make progress because nobody is going to hold your hand and give you the answers.

AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 28, 2015, 12:50:41 AM

Quote from: allcanadian on January 27, 2015, 11:54:03 PM
@Mags

You know last year I was pushing Tito much like you are and it never worked for me. I wanted it to be given to me on a silver platter, given to me as if somehow I was entitled to it...I was not. I am happy he didn't because I was forced to find my own way as we all are. We are entitled to nothing unless we are willing to work for it, we are entitled to nothing unless we are willing to change our perspective and find our own answers.

Is it not enough to enjoy the conversation, is it not enough to share what we are willing to share with one another, who are we to say we deserve anything?. In retrospect Tito made me think and I thank him for that, he made me think how this could work and why it would work from my perspective.

In the words of T.H.Moray-- you cannot prove anything to anyone who is not willing to prove it for themselves.

It's not as if your doing anything wrong you are unwilling to accept what you already know. Let it go, all that BS you have been told and find your own way. That is the way you make progress because nobody is going to hold your hand and give you the answers.

AC

Never wanted a silver platter. Just some help if there is any to be had.. At work, Im 'the guy' when the boss want something fixed right, or at all. But if I dont know something, I will ask one of the other guys if they know about it before I have to spend possibly too much time researching. And I do the same for them. I 'give' answers. I dont riddle them off and wait for the boss to put me on that job, because seemingly Im the only one that can get it done. And I dont go to the boss and tell him that I figured it out for the other guy and 'gave' him answers. But ya know what. If I was just a dick and never 'actually' 'help' those other guys, the business would suffer, cuz one guy cant do everything where 10 guys work. And morale is better, where we all get along and have a good sense of accomplishment at the end of the day.

I definitely have a 'lot' of my own ideas. No one here can deny that. But none have gotten me to 'our' goal, yet. Some people may just have it for figuring out OU situations. I have great mechanical and electrical skills. But I dont have the 'twist' that is needed here. Yet. Many dont. Look around. ;)

Still searchin,
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 28, 2015, 01:12:07 AM

Quote from: allcanadian on January 27, 2015, 11:54:03 PM
@Mags

You know last year I was pushing Tito much like you are and it never worked for me.

AC

Actually im not pushing Tito. At this time, I dont have the 'feeling' that he actually has something anymore. So far, there are no guitars going out the door. Not yet. If ever. But the signs are still being posted as if this is the place where guitars can be fixed.

Tito can have the world the way he wants it to be here. Just like it is. And I have a feeling it will always be that way. But it doesnt mean that no one can object. As long as the facts support that objection.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on January 28, 2015, 04:22:22 AM

Yes, it's very embarrassing and distracting to be constantly asked to produce _evidence_ for one's claims. Far better just to descend periodically from a high mountain, "teach" something to the idiots below, then disappear back into the clouds. Of course it's not the _teacher's_ fault that the idiots below can't seem to get anything to work according to the Great Teachings, no matter how hard they try. Is it?

Hey Tito, where do you get your electricity from? What is powering your computer? A "Black box"? Or perhaps.... your local utility grid?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 28, 2015, 09:14:35 AM

Hey TinselKoala,

What do think about what I said regarding the method of cap usage in this post? http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg435120/#msg435120

Is that idea plausible in your eyes?

Do you agree that more than 1 joule of charge would be transferred?

If not, why not?

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on January 28, 2015, 10:14:13 AM

@TK

QuoteYes, it's very embarrassing and distracting to be constantly asked to produce _evidence_ for one's claims. Far better just to descend periodically from a high mountain, "teach" something to the idiots below, then disappear back into the clouds. Of course it's not the _teacher's_ fault that the idiots below can't seem to get anything to work according to the Great Teachings, no matter how hard they try. Is it?

Uhm... I believe you just described my job. As a Power Engineer I learned early on that it is best to fill a specific technical niche rather than pretending to be one of the boys. As such I work alone and my work is waiting, I wait until I get a call telling me everything has gone terribly wrong and everyone else has run out of options. The peculiar thing is that I sit in my office and seldom get a call because they know damn well I'm going to solve the problem in record time which makes them look bad however it is the perfect relationship in my opinion. In the last instance 60 man hours was spent trying to track down a technical issue I solved in 15 minutes, that's why I'm the lead Engineer and they are not.

I also learned that hand holding seldom works, That is I can teach them a specific skill however I cannot teach them how to think. You see my fellow Engineers seldom have the analytical problem solving skills to solve complex problems outside their knowledge base. As such I send them out knowing damn well they are going to fail and I do it on purpose so they are forced to think for themselves and find their own solutions. It makes them better more confident people who are able to do things for themselves in almost any situation. I also do this for my children and their teachers tell me their creative problems solving skills are second to none.

I mean these are basic life skills everyone should understand and it boggles the mind that people can't seem to grasp such a simple concept. You let them fail so they learn how to solve problems and think for themselves, that's life.

AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on January 28, 2015, 05:16:57 PM

Quote from: luc2010 on January 18, 2015, 12:08:56 PM
Sorry for my ignorance, i never see this circuit before?
Its just my crude attempt to make this '' one way tank circuit'' idea of Sir Tito.
Any help in this direction?
Best Regards
luc2010

@luc2010

Thanks for your PM.

I think @dieter did a good job describing that circuit you posted.
http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg433790/#msg433790

Maybe also add that if it is AC going to those two caps, seems the me the neutral AC line would not require that cap. But since there is nothing else, it's hard to say.

All the best.

@Mags

You know, if you are adamant to make a mule walk when it does not want to, you should know, you will have an easier time working towards and finding OU yourself, then going that route.

But in all frankness, who cares if @Teets has or has not successfully achieved OU. This is the base problem of the forum. Some guy comes here (I can site so many), shows or does not show something. But even if its shown, there is no real disclosure to make any type of confirmation save the visuals of a video or some cheap images thus no more real information, so guys here are left holding an empty bag, and from there they try to fill the bag any way they can.

That is not OU research. To do OU research, you should not follow anyone saying they have OU that does not disclose because that has to fall, by default, into the OU fallacy department. At that point, having the discipline to stick with your decision and ignore any further taunting is a sign that you have evolved past petty OUerations (new word). hehehe

So really man, it is best you put your energies into something else then trying to persuade someone like @Teets to spill some beans, because you may just realize, they were really only beans and nothing more.

Besides, I have always preferred to see your works coming from your own mind then anything else. hehehe

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 28, 2015, 09:08:38 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on January 27, 2015, 11:24:12 PM
Bah. Its like Forest said. What ever I think.

If I were to make an analogy to what I think, then....

Tito has a Gibson guitar repair shop. His shop is the only shop that can repair Gibson guitars, in the whole world, as it says in the sign on the front window. That would make him pretty valuable to people that own Gibson guitars. Tito is the guy. He is the man. ;D

You walk into titos shop, and there are Gibsons everywhere. All of them are in for repair and customers are lined up outside the door to bring Tito their Gibson guitars, to have them repaired and tuned.

Since Tito had opened up his shop, putting new and better signs in the window of his famous one and only Gibson guitar repair shop, the customers lined up in the streets, carrying their gibsons, eager to have them fixed.

As time goes on, one begins to notice, notice that nobody has ever walked out of the shop with a guitar in hand. Because the Gibson repair shop never lived up to the statements that the signs in the front window portrayed.

Eventually, there are no more lines of people at the front door. The same guitars, sitting on racks, disassembled in boxes, from years ago, still sit. Waiting to be fixed and played. Some customers dont even bother calling any more. Some diehards still stop in. Some to complain, some to still say,

"Hey Teets. I know you can do it. Please fix my Gibson. Thank you Teets. Hope you will help me out someday soon. Ill stop in tomorrow and see how your doing."

So yeah. Sometimes I feel like standing outside the guitar shop and if I see someone coming with a Gibson to have fixed, I would tell them not to come to this shop. You wont get your Gibson repaired here. Not one guitar has left the shop since it opened for business. Save them some trouble.

You know Tito, for a long time, I was all in. I had real hope. Maybe you just cant understand what it has all become. I dunno.

Some here right now have real hope still. I just cant hold my breath any longer. I feel Ive mostly given up with this thread. I still value a lot of the ideas, but without the key, the twist, what ever that is, none of it helps us with our goals and intentions we came here with. Not yet anyway.

They have hope because they feel recently that they are being hinted to that they are close. But how many times in the past have we been told that we are close and are left to just lose our ways? Its not right. Somehow, you think it is. ???

Mags

That is out of context!!!!!

You bring your guitar to MEL GIBSON maybe he can fix it.

you mean you are giving all your trust to me?, that's amazing isn't it. ha!ha!ha!

@allcanadian
That is really my purpose. making someone to think, and thats good.

@sir wattsup
Thank you sir for posting here, And that's fare comment , i love it.

And About the beans, well, i will just collect them again sorry.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 28, 2015, 09:14:14 PM

Quote from: wattsup on January 28, 2015, 05:16:57 PM

So really man, it is best you put your energies into something else then trying to persuade someone like @Teets to spill some beans, because you may just realize, they were really only beans and nothing more.

Besides, I have always preferred to see your works coming from your own mind then anything else. hehehe

wattsup

Thanks ;)

In recent years Ive needed to put this all aside for a bit. Was getting in the way of everything, while not reaching the goal in mind. As time goes by though, new thoughts come to me, but I just need to find time to get them done, all still without knowing if these ideas will make the grade. So I have to put time on a scale and weigh what im using my time for that has more value, according to me.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 28, 2015, 11:46:11 PM

If you want to get inside Tito's thinking, you can start here:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Article:Jack_Durban%27s_experience_with_Steve_Marks_Toroid_Generator#Interview

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 29, 2015, 04:49:43 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 28, 2015, 11:46:11 PM
If you want to get inside Tito's thinking, you can start here:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Article:Jack_Durban%27s_experience_with_Steve_Marks_Toroid_Generator#Interview (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Article:Jack_Durban%27s_experience_with_Steve_Marks_Toroid_Generator#Interview)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 29, 2015, 04:52:23 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on January 28, 2015, 09:14:14 PM
Thanks ;)

In recent years Ive needed to put this all aside for a bit. Was getting in the way of everything, while not reaching the goal in mind. As time goes by though, new thoughts come to me, but I just need to find time to get them done, all still without knowing if these ideas will make the grade. So I have to put time on a scale and weigh what im using my time for that has more value, according to me.

Mags

ya right
and we are all happy then. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pix on January 29, 2015, 05:17:53 AM

People,
Stop asking or begging Tito for the definite guide or answers. He will never give you a clear one.
For me , it seems he likes to get attention, people asking him for answers. He feels like a guru then.
It is a child play.
It is simple as that:If you know the answers, stop playing around, just give them. This is a reason OU site is set up for.
I've seen Tito over here a long time already, on multiple threads.
Don't you guys see he is playing and having satisfaction when people begging him for answers?
Have your dignity and stop begging him.

Cheers.
Pix

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: cheappower2012 on January 29, 2015, 06:31:25 AM

Tito I think you in reality can only be two possible people,Seven Mark inventor of the tpu :o,or the famous Mr Peanut(oh so gay) of the Planter Peanut Commercials ;D.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 29, 2015, 01:00:10 PM

Tito,

See?

You already told everyone the answer, practically rubbed it in our faces. Most refuse to see it, or even look at it, but keep demanding the answer. Their reasoning is locked onto the one-way paths we have been taught.

Meanwhile, you refuse to play their game so you are endlessly ridiculed, insulted and vilified.

Pssst -- The secret ingredient in the noodles is ............... there is no secret ingredient. Just the right mix of ingredients.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 29, 2015, 11:11:12 PM

Quote from: cheappower2012 on January 29, 2015, 06:31:25 AM
Tito I think you in reality can only be two possible people,Seven Mark inventor of the tpu :o ,or the famous Mr Peanut(oh so gay) of the Planter Peanut Commercials ;D .

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 29, 2015, 11:11:45 PM

Quote from: pix on January 29, 2015, 05:17:53 AM
People,
Stop asking or begging Tito for the definite guide or answers. He will never give you a clear one.
For me , it seems he likes to get attention, people asking him for answers. He feels like a guru then.
It is a child play.
It is simple as that:If you know the answers, stop playing around, just give them. This is a reason OU site is set up for.
I've seen Tito over here a long time already, on multiple threads.
Don't you guys see he is playing and having satisfaction when people begging him for answers?
Have your dignity and stop begging him.

Cheers.
Pix

OH REALLY? :D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 29, 2015, 11:13:09 PM

Quote from: Cadman on January 29, 2015, 01:00:10 PM
Tito,

See?

You already told everyone the answer, practically rubbed it in our faces. Most refuse to see it, or even look at it, but keep demanding the answer. Their reasoning is locked onto the one-way paths we have been taught.

Meanwhile, you refuse to play their game so you are endlessly ridiculed, insulted and vilified.

Pssst -- The secret ingredient in the noodles is ............... there is no secret ingredient. Just the right mix of ingredients.

:o

Really bro. how is it? ???

so how really is the secret then? :)

SEEE CADMAN IS THE MAN :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 29, 2015, 11:16:36 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 29, 2015, 11:13:09 PM

:o

Really bro. how is it? ???

? :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 29, 2015, 11:19:35 PM

see, cadman knows it. :)

why not share it. :D

ok fine lets just do this :> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofn4tdktPsA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofn4tdktPsA)
and this :> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOJ_sFy6BQU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOJ_sFy6BQU)
and this one, so very easy:> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-gawM9A7Bc

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 30, 2015, 02:36:08 AM

Once upon a time I did small experiment with microcontroller and mosfet gently driven by a proper mosfet driver....I have a source of 230V AC and I wanted to charge my capacitor from it with diode bridge. Unfortunately my capacitor was only reliable up to 100V.I was lazy to wind proper transformer so I thought that maybe if I open mosfet for just a short moment then voltage on capacitor would not rise above 100V. I computed RC constant but then rather tried setting first very short time and gradually widen impulse , checking final voltage. I found it funny experiment and fully confirmed my idea, though RC constant was not very helpful (maybe because my tools are not precise).It's so simple ,right ? By this experiment I confirmed that current has inertia.Then immediately a flash of light brighten up my mind and I recalled how Tesla was able to extract energy at higher rate from alternators by using momentum.The point is he was doing it continously , not just in single pulse. ::) Was it so simple ? NO! Even for Tesla he took him few years to understand it or rather to find a method to apply understanding.10 years for him to come from simple one wire bulb like our today's CFL lamps to the magnifying transmitter - from 1889 to 1899.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 30, 2015, 12:18:30 PM

Tito,

Your tips were much more specific in the past :)

If there is any secret to this, I would say it would be to look more at what certain devices do and not so much how they are built. Look at the most basic function or properties and don't be distracted by fanciful concepts, OU buzzwords, intricate details or expensive looking devices. Define the path to the goal and break the path down to each step along the way.

@ Everyone,
One working concept is a group of simplicities. A few simple inexpensive steps in logical order gives a little extra.
Lots of little extras can be combined to make a big extra.

It's as simple as that and you have already been told where to get the little extra.

Well, maybe one more thing.
What causes lightning? What is the simplest answer?
What can be inferred from this? Simply.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 30, 2015, 02:16:31 PM

Cadman

You are on right path to the one of methods Tito know, that's sure. Tesla knew that also and in fact this is the starting point if you read his interview . Read first few pages, this is the art not invention ,right ? ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 30, 2015, 02:17:05 PM

charge separation ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on January 30, 2015, 03:54:45 PM

Quote from: forest on January 30, 2015, 02:16:31 PM
Cadman

You are on right path to the one of methods Tito know, that's sure. Tesla knew that also and in fact this is the starting point if you read his interview . Read first few pages, this is the art not invention ,right ? ::)

It looks to me as if Tito started with simple and progressed to more advanced techniques later. Right now I am at the simple stage and very happy to be on this path at last.

Which Tesla interview? But yes, art not invention. Everything needed was invented long ago.

Quote
charge separation

Ha, I guess you could say charge separation :) Two separate charges from one. I think of that part as more like a charge pump.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 30, 2015, 03:56:58 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 29, 2015, 11:19:35 PM
see, cadman knows it. :)

why not share it. :D

ok fine lets just do this :> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofn4tdktPsA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofn4tdktPsA)
and this :> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOJ_sFy6BQU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOJ_sFy6BQU)
and this one, so very easy:> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-gawM9A7Bc

Oh, I just can't resist these clues. Here's what I see:
Video 1. Bedini 6 Coil energizer: Litz coils (quadfilar) for energy amplification
Video 2. Floyd Sweet VTA: Mentions bifilar feedback coil
Video 3. Bedini Motor: Capturing BEMF

Remember: Charge in parallel, discharge in series, keep the dipole open :)
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 31, 2015, 08:26:28 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 29, 2015, 11:11:12 PM

;D

Tito u are not sotto ur good in mind games pang mental WOW

ur first circuit and gyula and woopys cascading voltage and current amplifier using hv diodes maybe gote is rge answer Deal ot no deal

im back amigo

totoalas 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 31, 2015, 05:54:53 PM

Quote from: totoalas on January 31, 2015, 08:26:28 AM
Tito u are not sotto ur good in mind games pang mental WOW

ur first circuit and gyula and woopys cascading voltage and current amplifier using hv diodes maybe gote is rge answer Deal ot no deal

im back amigo

totoalas 8)

Well, para mu naring sinabing sira ulo ako. baket? anu ba problema mo brad. :D

edi kung nagawa na nila, edi okay. :D ;D
actually pwedi rin yon pero may mas madali. para kahit simpleng tao lang sana ay kayang gawin. ;)

ka agaaga e nang aalaska ka nanaman. :D

Titong amigok ;D hehehehhehhehhehhe

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 31, 2015, 06:12:04 PM

ok everyone no offense to everyone even from my friend mags

before i leave this forum i will leave one of my best project. try to solve it. ;)

and here it is:
Lets say we have one 12v battery then connect two bridge rectifier in parallel and try to connect them in series to
form 24v and charge the battery itself but? :o ::) ....................................... ;D

@ mags
i don't mean all bad words i say unto you bro. your my friend ok.
i love you bro.
keep on doing good works ok ;) :)

bye bye everyone hope i made help even just a little to make you think out of the BOX. ;)

its me your friendly neighborhood

so long fel goodbye. thanks for all players. ;D joke :)

spider tits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 31, 2015, 07:27:42 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 31, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
ok everyone no offense to everyone even from my friend mags

before i leave this forum i will leave one of my best project. try to solve it. ;)

and here it is:
Lets say we have one 12v battery then connect two bridge rectifier in parallel and try to connect them in series to
form 24v and charge the battery itself but? :o ::) ....................................... ;D

@ mags
i don't mean all bad words i say unto you bro. your my friend ok.
i love you bro.
keep on doing good works ok ;) :)

bye bye everyone hope i made help even just a little to make you think out of the BOX. ;)

its me your friendly neighborhood

so long fel goodbye. thanks for all players. ;D joke :)

spider tits ;D

:( :( :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on January 31, 2015, 07:36:10 PM

Otits
No hi blood please
Another mind boggling set up
I told you so youre a good Mentalist no offense pre ur my Hiro ( choc flavored)

in 2 months were out of or lack electricity again in the Philippines so a little more tip please 6 numbers will do

2 klase tayo sa pinas kung di inbentor sira ulo di bbbbba joke joke joke

hope your doing fine im currently involved with naturopathy stuff no more medicine just LIQUID FOOD ANDD ORACION AND people live longer and little bit comfortable life which doctors can never say to their patients
my motto NO JOLIIBEE ABD MCMCMCMDO NO MERCURY (DRUG)

NEED HELP JUSTR PM ME

TOTOALAS >:( 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 01, 2015, 12:55:51 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 31, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
ok everyone no offense to everyone even from my friend mags

before i leave this forum i will leave one of my best project. try to solve it. ;)

and here it is:
Lets say we have one 12v battery then connect two bridge rectifier in parallel and try to connect them in series to
form 24v and charge the battery itself but? :o ::) ....................................... ;D

@ mags
i don't mean all bad words i say unto you bro. your my friend ok.
i love you bro.
keep on doing good works ok ;) :)

bye bye everyone hope i made help even just a little to make you think out of the BOX. ;)

its me your friendly neighborhood

so long fel goodbye. thanks for all players. ;D joke :)

spider tits ;D

Bah, ok. I dont really hold grudges. But I did feel a need to vent. Would be just like anything else. Like if the cable tv was out at a home and the company keeps saying they are coming, day after day, week after week. Etc. Etc. The home owner will feel the need to have words at some point. ;)

I dont have cable. I run rabbit ears on a digital broadcast capable tv and I get enough tv without paying for it. So that is about all the Overunity I have attained thus far. Lol And many channels are HD. As said in another thread, many times. "the old has become new again" Once a person starts cutting out some of the every month bills, 125 for cable. 200(even more for some people) a mo cell phone. Riding an electric bike for 7 years instead of putting a car on the road. 2 fieros. Still working on them when I dont have other work.

It adds up to rent or possibly a big house payment. Or savings. Buying better food, organic, etc. Anyway, it can be a big lump sum.

If anyone has not tried their digital ready broadcast tv with a set of rabbit ears instead of cable, hook one up and see what you get. Some areas you may need an out door ant. My mom pays a certain amount for cable and my step dad wont pay the extra 15 for HD signal. Which is ridiculous to have to pay more for anyway. She has a nice flat screen, but old school quality picture. So she can go to the rabbit ears input and get some HD stations without the extra 15. So, I set my mom up with a little overunity. ;)

Im going to give a little faith here once more. Like a grain of sand amount. And hopefully, we can move mountains with it. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on February 01, 2015, 04:05:23 AM

hi ... i'm new here. After red and read much post here, i must conclude i need at least 0ne year to solve Tito design ... and Tito massages ALL seem true :-* ... i don't know why

not sure where i start first to open my inside the box brain :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 01, 2015, 04:23:58 AM

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on February 01, 2015, 06:49:41 AM

Don't kill the dipole ... hoooow ? ???

quote : ( from Lamare)
>>> extract EM energy from the vacuum. All you wish. Anywhere in the universe. For free. Just pay a little bit once, to make a little dipole, and that silly thing is like a great oil well you just successfully drilled that has turned into a mighty gusher of oil without you having to pump it. The dipole just sits there and does its thing, and it pours energy out forever, for free, as long as that dipole continues to exist

@ all
how we can convert electrostatic field into VOLTS time AMPERE a.k.a useful electricity ??
any reference guys??

Claus Turtur quote :
If electrostatic fields propagate with the speed of light, they transport energy, because they have a certain energy density. It should be possible to trace this transport of energy if is really existing. That this is really the case can be seen even with a simple example regarding a point charge, as will be done on the following pages. When we trace this energy, we come to situation, which looks paradox at the very first glance, but the paradox can be dissolved, introducing a circulation of energy. This is also demonstrated on the following pages.

The first aspect of the mentioned paradox regards the emission of energy at all. If a point charge (for instance an elementary charge) exists since a given moment in time, it emits electric field and field's energy from the time of its birth without any alteration of its mass. The volume of the space filled with this field increases permanently during time and with it the total energy of the field. But from where does this "new energy" originate? For the charged particle does not alter its mass (and thus its energy), the "new energy" can not originate from the particle itself. This means: The charged particle has to be permanently supplied with energy from somewhere. The situation is also possible for particles, which are in contact with nothing else but only with the vacuum. The consequence is obvious: The particle can be supplied with energy only from the vacuum. This sounds paradox, so it can be regarded as the first aspect of the mentioned paradox. But it is logically consequent, and so we will have to solve it later.

LETS PONDER AGAIN ... only for me !!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 01, 2015, 11:58:18 AM

Quote from: tim energy on February 01, 2015, 06:49:41 AM
Don't kill the dipole ... hoooow ? ???

quote : ( from Lamare)
>>> extract EM energy from the vacuum. All you wish. Anywhere in the universe. For free. Just pay a little bit once, to make a little dipole, and that silly thing is like a great oil well you just successfully drilled that has turned into a mighty gusher of oil without you having to pump it. The dipole just sits there and does its thing, and it pours energy out forever, for free, as long as that dipole continues to exist
LETS PONDER AGAIN ... only for me !!!

Tim,
Nice quote from Lamare. I think it speaks to the possibilities of an open system. Open system is what I mean by "don't kill the dipole." This is something Tito has been saying all along. There has to be a continuous entry point for energy to come into the system from outside. In this sense, we're not talking about closed system overunity. The setup allows for continuous or ongoing influx of energy from outside - the aether, the electrostatic environment, the dirac sea, sea of energy in which we float (Moray) etc. Tesla's Radiant Energy Receiver patent is the simplest, most basic example I know.

Now, the energy in the system has to be pulsed and unidirectional.
Certain coil configurations will provide current multiplication.
Certain coil configs will provide voltage amplification.
Certain coil configs will function as a secondary which does not affect the primary's resonating action.

Think about feedback;
Think about balance between coils.
Wire, caps and diodes are your chief components.

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 01, 2015, 04:22:16 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 31, 2015, 06:12:04 PM

before i leave this forum i will leave one of my best project. try to solve it. ;)

and here it is:
Lets say we have one 12v battery then connect two bridge rectifier in parallel and try to connect them in series to
form 24v and charge the battery itself but? :o ::) ....................................... ;D

Well, possibly we just start here.

What seems to be missing.............. is where the charge is put before it is sent back. If it is caps, then it would be best to use the igniter type of transfer to avoid 50% loss to, and from the cap(s). So, we charge 2 caps using 2 independent inductor circuits. Then discharge the caps in series with inductor and diode?

Circuit sim code below shows the circuit im thinking about. Lower switch on left sends power from source to each cap via inductor and diode, which should be an efficient transfer of power. Then release that switch. Then the switch at the far right operates 2 other switches to feed the 2 caps in series back to the battery. The circuit sim stops with errors due to diodes and coils having 1 leg opened at times with charges on them. Ill look into how to reconfigure to make things stable. These are not normal every day circuits, as it is put together.

Downloading a screenshot prog to make pics of the circuits. But if you have sim, here is the code to see the circuit.

Now, say if we have more caps charged this way and discharged in series. It may be better due to more push back to the source. It should also be better at emptying the series caps so the get a good charge from the source. If the source is say 20v, and each cap gets say 35v, that would only be if the caps were at 0v to start. If they have say 5v after the dump back to the source, the input wont see an empty cap and wont chrage it all the way to 35v the next time. Because the empty cap is the driver of current flow to get the inductors spinning. If it already is charged some, then less inductor spin(flywheel effect)

Plus more caps in series, more voltage to overcome rectifier drop losses. Those losses become less significant.

Dont know if this is what tito is talking about for sure.

$ 1 5.0E-6 10.20027730826997 50 5.0 43
v 352 464 352 208 0 0 40.0 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
r 352 464 448 464 0 1.0
c 800 208 800 304 0 1.0E-5 9.999995144772864E-4
c 800 368 800 464 0 1.0E-5 0.0010000000000022103
s 352 208 448 208 0 1 true
l 800 208 720 208 0 1.0 9.999819475400038E-14
l 800 368 720 368 0 1.0 -9.999819475345689E-14
d 800 464 720 464 1 0.805904783
d 800 304 720 304 1 0.805904783
w 448 464 624 464 0
w 624 464 720 464 0
w 624 464 624 304 0
w 624 304 720 304 0
w 448 208 720 208 0
w 448 208 448 368 0
w 448 368 720 368 0
w 800 208 800 144 0
w 352 208 352 144 0
159 448 144 352 144 0 20.0 1.0E10
159 800 368 800 304 0 20.0 1.0E10
w 400 128 400 96 0
w 400 96 880 96 0
w 880 96 880 336 0
w 880 336 816 336 0
s 880 336 960 336 0 1 true
R 960 336 1024 336 0 0 40.0 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
d 592 144 448 144 1 0.805904783
l 800 144 592 144 0 1.0 -2.2302038617668007E-21
o 2 64 0 291 0.009765625 9.765625E-5 0 -1
o 3 64 0 291 0.009765625 9.765625E-5 1 -1

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 01, 2015, 05:01:29 PM

Some problems with the circuit. Diode at bottom right isnt helping. Needs more switching to isolate paths.

I like the way the caps charge. Hold the left lower switch for a few seconds after caps are full and the sim wont stop. But the back discharge is all wrong. Gota fix.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 01, 2015, 10:25:51 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 31, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
ok everyone no offense to everyone even from my friend mags

before i leave this forum i will leave one of my best project. try to solve it. ;)

and here it is:
Lets say we have one 12v battery then connect two bridge rectifier in parallel and try to connect them in series to
form 24v and charge the battery itself but? :o ::) ....................................... ;D

http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg282063/#msg282063
http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352052/#msg352052
http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg349944/#msg349944
http://overunity.com/6763/energhttp://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg349564/#msg349564y-amplification/msg352117/#msg352117
http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg349564/#msg349564
http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg338470/#msg338470
http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg348801/#msg348801 (GERARD MORIN DISCUSSED THIS)(
LOOK FOR Bruce tpu COMMENT ON CASCADING VOLATFE AND CURRENT FORGET ou AND AETHER WE CAN SUPPLY FROM SMALL BATTERY/ SOLAR JUST LIKE gERARD mORIN S BIPOLAR GENERATOR HOPE SOMEBODY CAN DIGEST ABOVE POSTS AND RUN A SIMPLE CIRCUIT

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on February 02, 2015, 04:55:17 AM

http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg284306/#msg284306 8) from Bruce TPU

totoalas 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 02, 2015, 08:08:24 AM

I wonder , just wonder if the simplest way is not just what was already discussed many years ago : a set of transformers with primiaries in series and secondaries in parallel. Just imagine a few Tesla coils powered from the same power source ....
It would be interesting to know if somebody tested it. In Tesla coil output depends on amperes flowing in primary and how fast we can switch them on/off. Looks completly in reverse of what Don Smith said. Remember his device with central Tesla coil transmitter ? What if that was receiver and all around was transmitters ?

::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 02, 2015, 08:04:20 PM

I can say one thing. Seems like when I copy an Utkin file, this pc didnt have it on file, there seem to be more added or differences from previous ones.

Just looking through it, I found this in the pic below. 3 coils. ?? :o

There is another circuit shown in this one that I dont believe I had seen before. Im going to run it through sim, which should produce decent results being inductors, diodes and caps oh my, to see if Im seeing what it does exactly.

Anyway, Tito said once, or more, its in the transformer.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on February 03, 2015, 02:38:42 PM

OK, I have found what I was seeking when I came to this forum so..

Here is everything you need.

This is not the only possible way so if you want to ignore me and keep on looking for ZPE or Unobtainium then may God bless your search.

Double dot .. lines are quotes from Tito's posts scattered over the years.

Part 1, Charge:
Tesla patent 568177 fig.1
..it is actually convertion of small kicks into big kicks...
..A FULLY CHARGE CAPS ENERGY CAN PULSE A COIL A LOT OK, INTO A POINT THAT IN THE FIRST PULSE WE CAN CHARGE IT ALREADY
..just in one pulse only ok?
..note: we only need volts to energize a caps
..i want you also to discover the DC way of amplification
This is a small version.
http://overunity.com/3852/tell-the-truth/msg68126/#msg68126
http://overunity.com/3852/tell-the-truth/msg68150/#msg68150
http://overunity.com/3852/tell-the-truth/dlattach/attach/16085/

Tesla patent 568176 fig. 1 & 2
..Lets say we have a fully charged caps, if we make, make/break very fast, the caps will not fully discharge, and we can replenish it and back charge it in just one very fast make/break ok?
..making a ringing effect inside the two caps prohibiting a discharging action from the source, and as it is ringing then a magnification is being done at the other coil.
..Discharge a cap on a very thick wire coiled in a bifillar form is very efficient making a very powerful magnetic field ok.
..P.S. Bigger magwire makes strong magnetic field isn't it?
.. discharge a fully charge capacitor in a very thick wire with tail, this will give you an excess energy and this is the secret!. tail = extra coil.
..technique of using other coil making a kick without using any current from the input and that makes excess or unlimited energy.

http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg433628/#msg433628
http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg433751/#msg433751

Part 2, Discharge:
Connect to patent 568176,
step 1:
http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg435120/#msg435120
..only at peak switching very very little energy is used
..is it not that a bridge rectifier can accept ac that is two different direction electricity combining them into one?, and with the help of a cap, the point of cut is being filled.
..let one arm of the coil be connected already to the cap when charging it so that it becomes more efficient ...
..i used input, and the effect of the input, witch is the output, and redirect it into a normal power amplification method
..and since we know that a diode can permit a current and voltage to pass then why not after the diode lets make a lot of coils but not permitting bemf to go back
..Now, what we want is to eliminate the direct flowing but the whole energy effect is being use by us
..The thing that should be happen is that, as if you are using the source but not actually destroying it but you are using it.
..For every single pulse there should be an accumulation happening.
..like what i already said, battery can solve grounding ok,
..WE ARE ALREADY LIVING IN SEA OF ENERGY JUST HARNESSED IT.
(We are living on a sea of energy: Cadman)

step 2:
..alternately discharge this caps in a transformer
..study the real process or the real thing that is happening when charging many caps of at least 10K uf in high voltage dc and discharging it sequencially in a coil with secondary!
..you are correct all caps are in state of being charge then discharging them one at a time i mean extremely fast ok.
..plus the real output so you get the used energy and the output energy be added then you get excess then make some little charging action to make battery always alive ok.

@forest
..hi everyone here is my simple idea to convert HV into L-Volts
..note : You must know first the highest voltage AND CURRENT that you can get ok.
..many transformer then connect the primaries in series then connect all secondaries in parallel ok thats how simple it is, cause it will act as a single transformer ok

Thanks to all the members who shared their ideas and pieces of their research.

Best Regards
Cadman

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on February 04, 2015, 09:04:01 AM

DON'T KILL MY POLE TITO ... ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on February 04, 2015, 12:43:32 PM

not kill the dipole mean ... Splitting the positive, right ??

simply explained, take just the positive from a 12v battery and connect to positive on a 12v incandescent bulb, then take just the positive from a 3v battery and connect to minus on same bulb and connect both battery minus's together to complete circuit and bulb will burn with the 9v differential.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on February 04, 2015, 12:52:32 PM

found this on our neighbor @ energeticforum ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtKjKSUhuOw

This actually comes very close to the schematic schown in the above YT video. Just remove C1 and you have the same circuit in principle, except for the secondary where the loudspeaker is connected to and the loads.

The oscillation is determined by the transformer as well as C4, where C3 is just the feedback loop to steer your transistor with. The interesting detail with this circuit is that the power supply is attached to the central connection of the transformer. Since the upper and lower half of the primary is one coil, the current going trough the coil is equal in the upper and the lower half of the primary. So, virtually all current going trough the coil has only one place to go: C4 and thus cannot reach the power supply and therefore no killing of the dipole.

So, IMHO this is a very interesting circuit to play with. If you leave C1 out, you should be able to grab more power out of the secondary then you need to put in in order to keep the oscillation going.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2015, 06:29:20 PM

Quote from: Cadman on February 03, 2015, 02:38:42 PM
OK, I have found what I was seeking when I came to this forum so..

Here is everything you need.

This is not the only possible way so if you want to ignore me and keep on looking for ZPE or Unobtainium then may God bless your search.

Double dot .. lines are quotes from Tito's posts scattered over the years.

Part 1, Charge:
Tesla patent 568177 fig.1
..it is actually convertion of small kicks into big kicks...
..A FULLY CHARGE CAPS ENERGY CAN PULSE A COIL A LOT OK, INTO A POINT THAT IN THE FIRST PULSE WE CAN CHARGE IT ALREADY
..just in one pulse only ok?
..note: we only need volts to energize a caps
..i want you also to discover the DC way of amplification
This is a small version.
http://overunity.com/3852/tell-the-truth/msg68126/#msg68126 (http://overunity.com/3852/tell-the-truth/msg68126/#msg68126)
http://overunity.com/3852/tell-the-truth/msg68150/#msg68150 (http://overunity.com/3852/tell-the-truth/msg68150/#msg68150)
http://overunity.com/3852/tell-the-truth/dlattach/attach/16085/ (http://overunity.com/3852/tell-the-truth/dlattach/attach/16085/)

Tesla patent 568176 fig. 1 & 2
..Lets say we have a fully charged caps, if we make, make/break very fast, the caps will not fully discharge, and we can replenish it and back charge it in just one very fast make/break ok?
..making a ringing effect inside the two caps prohibiting a discharging action from the source, and as it is ringing then a magnification is being done at the other coil.
..Discharge a cap on a very thick wire coiled in a bifillar form is very efficient making a very powerful magnetic field ok.
..P.S. Bigger magwire makes strong magnetic field isn't it?
.. discharge a fully charge capacitor in a very thick wire with tail, this will give you an excess energy and this is the secret!. tail = extra coil.
..technique of using other coil making a kick without using any current from the input and that makes excess or unlimited energy.

http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg433628/#msg433628 (http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg433628/#msg433628)
http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg433751/#msg433751 (http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg433751/#msg433751)

Part 2, Discharge:
Connect to patent 568176,
step 1:
http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg435120/#msg435120 (http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg435120/#msg435120)
..only at peak switching very very little energy is used
..is it not that a bridge rectifier can accept ac that is two different direction electricity combining them into one?, and with the help of a cap, the point of cut is being filled.
..let one arm of the coil be connected already to the cap when charging it so that it becomes more efficient ...
..i used input, and the effect of the input, witch is the output, and redirect it into a normal power amplification method
..and since we know that a diode can permit a current and voltage to pass then why not after the diode lets make a lot of coils but not permitting bemf to go back
..Now, what we want is to eliminate the direct flowing but the whole energy effect is being use by us
..The thing that should be happen is that, as if you are using the source but not actually destroying it but you are using it.
..For every single pulse there should be an accumulation happening.
..like what i already said, battery can solve grounding ok,
..WE ARE ALREADY LIVING IN SEA OF ENERGY JUST HARNESSED IT.
(We are living on a sea of energy: Cadman)

step 2:
..alternately discharge this caps in a transformer
..study the real process or the real thing that is happening when charging many caps of at least 10K uf in high voltage dc and discharging it sequencially in a coil with secondary!
..you are correct all caps are in state of being charge then discharging them one at a time i mean extremely fast ok.
..plus the real output so you get the used energy and the output energy be added then you get excess then make some little charging action to make battery always alive ok.

@forest
..hi everyone here is my simple idea to convert HV into L-Volts
..note : You must know first the highest voltage AND CURRENT that you can get ok.
..many transformer then connect the primaries in series then connect all secondaries in parallel ok thats how simple it is, cause it will act as a single transformer ok

Thanks to all the members who shared their ideas and pieces of their research.

Best Regards
Cadman

One thing I really found interesting was in the links to Tell The Truth thread with Erfinder and IST. Paralleling the primary and secondary of the mot.

I havnt figured out the hookup on that circuit yet. I think its the first time I had seen that thread.

But other than that, it seems like this could all be much simpler.....

"hi mr. stefan

my name is Tito L. Oracion
i discover the secret of sm, "its the igniter patent of nikola tesla"

http://overunity.com/5975/stefan-and-newman-motor/msg140489/#msg140489

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 04, 2015, 09:54:58 PM

Just throwing this in for consideration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcBwvdeW6Sw
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on February 05, 2015, 01:25:09 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 04, 2015, 06:29:20 PM
One thing I really found interesting was in the links to Tell The Truth thread with Erfinder and IST. Paralleling the primary and secondary of the mot.

I havnt figured out the hookup on that circuit yet. I think its the first time I had seen that thread.

But other than that, it seems like this could all be much simpler.....

"hi mr. stefan

my name is Tito L. Oracion
i discover the secret of sm, "its the igniter patent of nikola tesla"

http://overunity.com/5975/stefan-and-newman-motor/msg140489/#msg140489

Mags

Mags,

The hookup on that circuit is the ozone patent, although not a real good implementation of that patent.

The igniter patent, ozone patent, and all of the patents for currents of high frequency and potential all have the same operating principal. They use one or more high self inductance coils to charge one or more capacitors. The cap(s) are connected to the primary coil of a high frequency step-up transformer forming an LCR circuit. The relationship of the cap(s) capacitance and the transformer primary coils inductance and resistance is such that the cap discharge through the coil is a high frequency oscillatory one, CR/4 < L/R makes it oscillatory. The high frequency transformer is an air core with a heavy gauge primary winding of few turns with a lighter gauge secondary of many turns, similar to a Tesla transformer with no spark gap. I'm sure you already know this.

That's all there is to that part of the device, with the possible exception of the 'extra coil'.
The main purpose is to generate the high frequency high voltage currents that almost instantly charge the caps in the next stage of the device, where the energy is multiplied.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 05, 2015, 05:30:41 PM

Sir, please bear with my english, i`m not used to speak for it,
here is what i have done:
just make a little modification ofcourse, i`ve made three parallel coil to the one that become high voltage and put a 3 collector perpendicular to that high voltage and thats it just like a tranformer, it gives unlimited energy and it is very controllable, and by dumping the one collector to the capacitor it becomes self powered, just a matter of on and off relay or reed relay, dont forget to use zener diode at least 3v.

be very carefull, you can accidentally make an uncontrollable voltage that look like a tesla coil.
its fun but very dangerous.

try to make coil combination. there is a little secret here so you just try to discover it ,its very fun but dont forget the danger!!!!!!!!

I love everybody so be carefull anyone.

"if power comes from coil then of course you can power everything just it depends on the design"
do you know that we can also make an efficient electrolysis from this, belive me sir just make a try!!!!!!

Thank you,

Tito L. Oracion (Philippines)

It seems he was working on the Tesla principle of cap shorting through a thick wire primary. The circuit starts with charging the cap with a high inductance coil in series.

On cap shorting 2 things happen.
1 A huge cap explosion through the thick wire primary, causing an extreme high voltage in the secondary.
2 A huge collapsing spike from the high inductance coil recharging the battery.

Above is Tito's mod.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 05, 2015, 06:15:18 PM

I appologize sir.

so sorry.

i've read the interview of sm and he says "kick is the secret"

in the first place how to produce kicks? and i've searched the patent of nikola tesla, igniter patent gives all the answer.

using low voltage to high or unlimitted voltage is being produce.

just consider it a little sir.

i just used the basic transformer computation to get the coil size i want.
so theres no really secret here.

don't worry i will not post anything anymore.

thank you

tito.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 05, 2015, 06:18:44 PM

So maybe Tito "toroids" the HV output. Worth a try

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on February 08, 2015, 07:31:14 PM

Quote from: Cadman on February 03, 2015, 02:38:42 PM
OK, I have found what I was seeking when I came to this forum so..

Here is everything you need.

This is not the only possible way so if you want to ignore me and keep on looking for ZPE or Unobtainium then may God bless your search.

Double dot .. lines are quotes from Tito's posts scattered over the years.

Part 1, Charge:
Tesla patent 568177 fig.1
..it is actually convertion of small kicks into big kicks...
..A FULLY CHARGE CAPS ENERGY CAN PULSE A COIL A LOT OK, INTO A POINT THAT IN THE FIRST PULSE WE CAN CHARGE IT ALREADY
..just in one pulse only ok?
..note: we only need volts to energize a caps
..i want you also to discover the DC way of amplification
This is a small version.
http://overunity.com/3852/tell-the-truth/msg68126/#msg68126 (http://overunity.com/3852/tell-the-truth/msg68126/#msg68126)
http://overunity.com/3852/tell-the-truth/msg68150/#msg68150 (http://overunity.com/3852/tell-the-truth/msg68150/#msg68150)
http://overunity.com/3852/tell-the-truth/dlattach/attach/16085/ (http://overunity.com/3852/tell-the-truth/dlattach/attach/16085/)

Tesla patent 568176 fig. 1 & 2
..Lets say we have a fully charged caps, if we make, make/break very fast, the caps will not fully discharge, and we can replenish it and back charge it in just one very fast make/break ok?
..making a ringing effect inside the two caps prohibiting a discharging action from the source, and as it is ringing then a magnification is being done at the other coil.
..Discharge a cap on a very thick wire coiled in a bifillar form is very efficient making a very powerful magnetic field ok.
..P.S. Bigger magwire makes strong magnetic field isn't it?
.. discharge a fully charge capacitor in a very thick wire with tail, this will give you an excess energy and this is the secret!. tail = extra coil.
..technique of using other coil making a kick without using any current from the input and that makes excess or unlimited energy.

http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg433628/#msg433628 (http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg433628/#msg433628)
http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg433751/#msg433751 (http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg433751/#msg433751)

Part 2, Discharge:
Connect to patent 568176,
step 1:
http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg435120/#msg435120 (http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg435120/#msg435120)
..only at peak switching very very little energy is used
..is it not that a bridge rectifier can accept ac that is two different direction electricity combining them into one?, and with the help of a cap, the point of cut is being filled.
..let one arm of the coil be connected already to the cap when charging it so that it becomes more efficient ...
..i used input, and the effect of the input, witch is the output, and redirect it into a normal power amplification method
..and since we know that a diode can permit a current and voltage to pass then why not after the diode lets make a lot of coils but not permitting bemf to go back
..Now, what we want is to eliminate the direct flowing but the whole energy effect is being use by us
..The thing that should be happen is that, as if you are using the source but not actually destroying it but you are using it.
..For every single pulse there should be an accumulation happening.
..like what i already said, battery can solve grounding ok,
..WE ARE ALREADY LIVING IN SEA OF ENERGY JUST HARNESSED IT.
(We are living on a sea of energy: Cadman)

step 2:
..alternately discharge this caps in a transformer
..study the real process or the real thing that is happening when charging many caps of at least 10K uf in high voltage dc and discharging it sequencially in a coil with secondary!
..you are correct all caps are in state of being charge then discharging them one at a time i mean extremely fast ok.
..plus the real output so you get the used energy and the output energy be added then you get excess then make some little charging action to make battery always alive ok.

@forest
..hi everyone here is my simple idea to convert HV into L-Volts
..note : You must know first the highest voltage AND CURRENT that you can get ok.
..many transformer then connect the primaries in series then connect all secondaries in parallel ok thats how simple it is, cause it will act as a single transformer ok

Thanks to all the members who shared their ideas and pieces of their research.

Best Regards
Cadman

Hi guys, been a while since i've posted, thank you sir cadman for collecting valuable posted info.
We can mix things up like tinselkoala's emj replication, 6v input, 4kv output!, :o [size=78%]also the sergei transformer with bucking output windings.....so many techniques....need only experimentation....we can do this! Or should i say you can do it! Lol.....[/size]
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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 09, 2015, 05:49:49 PM

Quote from: crazycut06 on February 08, 2015, 07:31:14 PM

Hi guys, been a while since i've posted, thank you sir cadman for collecting valuable posted info.
We can mix things up like tinselkoala's emj replication, 6v input, 4kv output!, :o [size=78%]also the sergei transformer with bucking output windings.....so many techniques....need only experimentation....we can do this! Or should i say you can do it! Lol.....[/size]
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[size=78%]Regards [/size]
[size=78%]Cc[/size]

ditto on that.

Just made a coil setup on 1 1/4 pvc, lil over 10 in long, using radshack 30awg(red). Will put pic up later. Didnt count turns. I put 3 plastic pins in the side, 1 in the middle and 2 'equally' spaced towards the outside. On coil wound one way and the other opposite from the center out. Then im making a mix for a core from iron powder and granules, some the size of sand and fiberglass resin. The core will be pretty large, 1in x 10in. My reasoning for this direction im heading in is to increase voltage on the coils and lower the operating freq as much as possible. Might have to get some big rubber gloves like Tito said. ;D Compared to the other thread, the voltage might be way out of hand. :o Will do testing at a distance.

4kv from the coils they are using is not a common happening. Typically 1k like TK said he would have possibly expected. Considering input used and all.

Back when I made my Lil TC, I had a 1 loop turn around the top of the secondary and it lit a small 12v light bulb. At the time I was showing pics, it seemed like Tito wanted to change the subject real fast. (No offense Tito ;) , Just thinking I may have been on to something and you didnt want it to go any further. If we are going to get this, we may need to use clues that may not seem like clues also.) So now, Im really wondering how 1 loop(or 2, 3, 4 loops) will work on this coil. That 1 loop was at the top of the sec, sec not loaded, open ended. It was brightest at the top of the coil near the open end of the sec.

This all has me a bit excited again. Just kinda lost it for a while. Hopefully it pans out. ;D

Was going to make a toroid like the one I added to Titos circuit in my last post here, but I wanted to try this first. Dunno why. Just wacky I guess. :o :o

Toroid will be next. Well, closed ecore, as I have a few. Easier wind also. ::) ;D

Been workin a lot, so couldnt get to this until the last couple days. I have some time to fiddle for the next week.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 12, 2015, 06:04:46 PM

Oh yeah, forgot to put up pic of coil. Nothing special. Opposing coils. Will be working on this more on the weekend.

Thinking of making a vid when i make the core. Thinking to use an automotive paint filter, paper cone with fine screen at the bottom point, to allow the resin to drain out and have more density of iron particles in the core. Making the mix thinner with more resin will allow me to pour it in, avoiding air bubbles from shoving a putty mix in.

Then Ill make a couple primary coils, bifi, as Tito has stipulated, to try some things.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 19, 2015, 07:31:19 PM

Tried to think up a primary. Just went with it, 2 rolls of RS green mag wire to make a bifi primary. Made the spindle of pvc pipe and pvc hobby plastic. Wound a single layer of the RS 30awg under the green bifi to use as a monitoring coil.

Will set the long tube on standing posts at each end and set a small square base for the primary to be at the right height to the sec tube to be centered. And be able to slide left and right.

Havnt done the core yet.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 19, 2015, 07:34:35 PM

Had an oops with the bifi when winding it and the final layers are not great. Unwound on me a bit. Will redo later. Try it as is.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 26, 2015, 10:19:17 PM

Sorry for the delays. Just poured the core. Nothing special.

But interesting how the iron particles and powder acted. In small tests, the iron sinks and the resin rises. I just didnt think of it that way.

The iron sand/powder mix was measured in the tube itself, then poured in a mixing cup. I needed just about the same level, in another cup, of resin to get a pourable mix. But, there was very little of the final mix left over after filling the tube. Freaked me out a bit, as I was pouring the last bit, I was worried I didnt have enough. :o lol Weird. Lots of space between them atoms, err iron particles.

Anyway, Im hanging out here to scrape off the top every once in a while as the mix seems to be expanding and lumping up over the top of the tube. The other end(bottom) is capped off. Resin expanding due to heat of curing most likely. Little air bubbles gathering. Was thinking to pour it in to the top and it might settle a bit and I could just top it off later, but no. ::)

Gunna go home here in a bit. First tests will be one shot tests as described in Utkins paper.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 27, 2015, 04:37:39 AM

Tito: Don't close the dipole??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 27, 2015, 12:09:49 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on February 27, 2015, 04:37:39 AM
Tito: Don't close the dipole??

What ? Still wondering ? I can tell you that while the concept is easy the construction is very difficult . Mostly ends up as a piece of not working crap or with a pile of damaged mosfets....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 27, 2015, 12:32:47 PM

Well, today the resin is hard and it sunk in a bit. Its still weird, as it seemed I would have had quite a bit of mix left over. Better more than short. Im going to dremel out the top a bit as it is mostly resin and fill to the end. The core needs to be consistent so each coil has the same amount of core to work with, I believe anyway.

If I have to do it again in the future, I will make on end of the tube longer with some tape and when cured, grind the excess.

The core is very magnetic. Compared to a mag on solid iron, its got pretty close to the same pull. I remember the TPU guru made some cores and posted that they were not as dense as he imagined. So, Im happy with these results so far.
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on February 27, 2015, 12:44:34 PM

You can probably "densify" your mix in the mold by putting a magnet underneath to aid gravity. Then the iron will pack as densely as it can before the resin cures.

I remember how funny it was to see "J-B Weld" creeping when trying to use it to stick various arrangements of magnets and pole pieces together. It's essentially epoxy filled with powdered steel.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 27, 2015, 05:28:50 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 27, 2015, 12:44:34 PM
You can probably "densify" your mix in the mold by putting a magnet underneath to aid gravity. Then the iron will pack as densely as it can before the resin cures.

I remember how funny it was to see "J-B Weld" creeping when trying to use it to stick various arrangements of magnets and pole pieces together. It's essentially epoxy filled with powdered steel.

Nice idea. Will try that in the future. ;)

I messed with the jb. Had to mix in some powdered iron to get a higher concentration of magnetic attraction. But was very thick to work with. And didnt have anything near the mag attraction as iron of similar size. But it does have some. Tried the putty also. It has a bit more attraction than the 2 part liquids.

Here I used layup resin which is thinner than he auto parts stores or home depot resins. Even boatyard resin is a bit thick. Looks like I have about an eighth of an inch of clear resin on top. Will dremel it out and fill. Then Ill do some inductance measurements and continue on.

Will fart around with it all this weekend.

Thanks T ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 01, 2015, 05:30:32 PM

Ok, one coil measures 2.54mh and the other is 2.62mh. As each coil measures the same length with a micrometer, I suspect the core for the differences. Will drill out a bit of core on the side with 2.62mh and see what haps adjusting it that way before I start changing the windings to equal them out. Like balancing the flywheel. Drill out the center of that end with a 1/8 bit about 1 in, then step up the size till its balanced at 2.54mh per side. The coil with the high reading is the bottom of core that was poured, so there is probably more settled smaller particle there than at the top.

With the coils connected in the middle, opposing coils measured at the outer leads, I get 4.74mh. Hmm. Woulda thought there would have been a large reduction in mh with opposing coils. ??? With one coils outer lead connected to the inner lead of the other, still series, 5.54mh. The 2 individual coils added together is 5.16mh, if that is the way we should figure it here.

So, to me, a bit of weirdness. Continue on. Mounting the coils today. Will do a mh measurement of primary when it is set with the core coils. Will do one measurement with the primary in the middle of the whole, and one in the middle of 1 sec coil. The do a primary measurement with the sec coils in series shunted, opposing and not.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 09, 2015, 07:49:22 AM

i just want to share this everyone. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQNPvbVZ6Vk

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on March 09, 2015, 12:15:23 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 09, 2015, 07:49:22 AM
i just want to share this everyone. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQNPvbVZ6Vk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQNPvbVZ6Vk)

Hi Tito, good to hear from you. Are you using the doubler or the cascade?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 09, 2015, 10:24:02 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on March 09, 2015, 12:15:23 PM
Hi Tito, good to hear from you. Are you using the doubler or the cascade?

Well, i'm not using both of them, i just showed them their simplicity of use.

.

bye buddy. :)

here also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpGOKGrcpAk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpGOKGrcpAk)

archiving:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dStaIdMqCsQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dStaIdMqCsQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhbuhT1GDpI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhbuhT1GDpI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D23JH30ZMK0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D23JH30ZMK0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoXboA8Ax7Q&feature=iv&src_vid=D23JH30ZMK0&annotation_id=annotation_970279 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoXboA8Ax7Q&feature=iv&src_vid=D23JH30ZMK0&annotation_id=annotation_970279)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubmg4QR3fWc&feature=iv&src_vid=D23JH30ZMK0&annotation_id=annotation_246958 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubmg4QR3fWc&feature=iv&src_vid=D23JH30ZMK0&annotation_id=annotation_246958)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Zbmwf5uEQ&index=3&list=PLw28_n7AgcmAdN9wiPbN8PwJQzqqfe2ul (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Zbmwf5uEQ&index=3&list=PLw28_n7AgcmAdN9wiPbN8PwJQzqqfe2ul)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BliWUHSOalU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BliWUHSOalU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ts34IWziqo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ts34IWziqo)

this is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGCx9HZwYBo&list=PLU79801KtVAUZ27gea53iCYWtHWvA6rHK&index=2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGCx9HZwYBo&list=PLU79801KtVAUZ27gea53iCYWtHWvA6rHK&index=2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4N-iGvYrbM&list=PLU79801KtVAUZ27gea53iCYWtHWvA6rHK&index=18 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4N-iGvYrbM&list=PLU79801KtVAUZ27gea53iCYWtHWvA6rHK&index=18)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g_ml8tAnWE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g_ml8tAnWE)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 10, 2015, 12:15:42 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 09, 2015, 07:49:22 AM
i just want to share this everyone. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQNPvbVZ6Vk

Just thought I'd share this along with this helpful video Tito Posted:
http://www.diyphysics.com/2012/02/09/d-i-y-250-kv-high-voltage-dc-power-supply-with-neat-trick-for-switching-polarity/
Note the page's description of the Cockroft-Walton voltage multiplier:

QuoteThe Cockroft-Walton multiplier uses a cascaded series of diodes and capacitors to generate a high voltage DC potential from an AC input through a circuit topology that uses diodes to charge capacitors in parallel and discharge them in series.

"... charging in parallel, discharging in series..." Sound familiar?
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 10, 2015, 06:58:08 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on March 10, 2015, 12:15:42 PM
Just thought I'd share this along with this helpful video Tito Posted:
http://www.diyphysics.com/2012/02/09/d-i-y-250-kv-high-voltage-dc-power-supply-with-neat-trick-for-switching-polarity/ (http://www.diyphysics.com/2012/02/09/d-i-y-250-kv-high-voltage-dc-power-supply-with-neat-trick-for-switching-polarity/)
Note the page's description of the Cockroft-Walton voltage multiplier: "... charging in parallel, discharging in series..." Sound familiar?
Bob

Thats a lot of voltage. But what do we do with that to get us some extra out? ??? We would need to measure the input and compare to the output.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 10, 2015, 09:21:16 PM

It is all good to know. But transforming into a higher power is the key. Another thing is safety. 250kv is no joke. Is it possible that xrays are emitted from the spark gap? At that voltage transistors are not an option really. Relays dont have enough throw distance to help.

Im kind scared to get into those areas. It may be a setback for me here. Tesla lived to a good old age. But he knew things we do not.

I get that raising the voltage, even though it has less total current available, can be dumped into a low resistance, but what emanates from that blast that might be harmful or at the least, detectable. Detectable as in, maybe it could be detected that such a device is operating and get into deep trouble over it. Multiple discharges of 250kv may attract FCC or worse.

Thats why I have always stated that I would rather try for a softer go at it. Would be great to work at lower voltages, and lower freq if possible.

So with my walls in front of my goals, maybe I am wasting time. But I keep stepping forward, one step at a time. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 11, 2015, 09:50:19 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on March 10, 2015, 09:21:16 PM
It is all good to know. But transforming into a higher power is the key. Another thing is safety. 250kv is no joke. Is it possible that xrays are emitted from the spark gap? At that voltage transistors are not an option really. Relays dont have enough throw distance to help.

Im kind scared to get into those areas. It may be a setback for me here. Tesla lived to a good old age. But he knew things we do not.

I get that raising the voltage, even though it has less total current available, can be dumped into a low resistance, but what emanates from that blast that might be harmful or at the least, detectable. Detectable as in, maybe it could be detected that such a device is operating and get into deep trouble over it. Multiple discharges of 250kv may attract FCC or worse.

Thats why I have always stated that I would rather try for a softer go at it. Would be great to work at lower voltages, and lower freq if possible.

So with my walls in front of my goals, maybe I am wasting time. But I keep stepping forward, one step at a time. ;)

Mags

I hear ya, Mags. HV wouldn't be my preference either. I think Tito hinted that there were a few ways to get the desired result, and yours may well be one of them. What I see is an antenna to collect ambient charge, followed by something that will pulse. For me his link to the negative resistance oscillator was a good example. YT user Larskro also has a very low mV Joule Thief oscillator on his channel - I think the lowest anyone's come up with yet. The other thing that I got a sense Teets was alluding to was the use of litz wire to multiply current after the pulse. That could be stepped up for increased voltage. Finally the special coil :) which I think you're well on the way to working out. I believe its magic lies in its ability to act as a secondary without affecting the primary's resonance.
Take care,
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 11, 2015, 12:22:58 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on March 11, 2015, 09:50:19 AM
I hear ya, Mags. HV wouldn't be my preference either. I think Tito hinted that there were a few ways to get the desired result, and yours may well be one of them. What I see is an antenna to collect ambient charge, followed by something that will pulse. For me his link to the negative resistance oscillator was a good example. YT user Larskro also has a very low mV Joule Thief oscillator on his channel - I think the lowest anyone's come up with yet. The other thing that I got a sense Teets was alluding to was the use of litz wire to multiply current after the pulse. That could be stepped up for increased voltage. Finally the special coil :) which I think you're well on the way to working out. I believe its magic lies in its ability to act as a secondary without affecting the primary's resonance.
Take care,
Bob

Hey Bob

Yeah, coil with a tail. Utkin shows an example of one of the 2 opposing coils open at the outer end. Possibly the primary induces the 2 coils, and the one that is loaded produces current and the other coil produces voltage added to the loaded coil?

Anyway, been trying to put time into it. Just have to make mounting posts for the sec and try some things.

Just picked up a variable supply last week. Ebay $78 shipped 30v 10a. Played with it a bit and it works very nicely. Been wanting one. But Ill go bateries on this as to not possibly hurt the supply.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on March 11, 2015, 08:41:20 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gM9natKIyY

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 12, 2015, 07:06:42 PM

Below is a pdf that I found interesting.

It shows how to make a capacitor that produces a magnetic field. Was a Tito quote. ;)

And near the end of the pdf is a circuit that reminds me of Titos first circuit. Also posted below.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on March 12, 2015, 08:42:13 PM

Nice find, Mags.
Here's a thought. If you're gathering power with an antenna that can bring in enough charge to power an oscillator, you shouldn't have to have the loop-back in the system.
Bob

Edit: I wonder if the HV module can simply output to a regular primary coil. I suppose the advantage of the Tesla coil lies in part in its tuning and resultant resonant behaviour. The cw-ccw center-tapped secondary, if properly wound, should allow charge to be drawn it without disturbing the primary's resonance. But all 3 coils (primary and each half of the secondary) need to be balanced for that to happen, I think. It's interesting though, that Teets was talking about the TMT for awhile as the model for what he was doing. This arrangement of coils would seem to approximate that, in my estimation.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 12, 2015, 09:48:23 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on March 12, 2015, 08:42:13 PM
Nice find, Mags.
Here's a thought. If you're gathering power with an antenna that can bring in enough charge to power an oscillator, you shouldn't have to have the loop-back in the system.
Bob

Edit: I wonder if the HV module can simply output to a regular primary coil. I suppose the advantage of the Tesla coil lies in part in its tuning and resultant resonant behaviour. The cw-ccw center-tapped secondary, if properly wound, should allow charge to be drawn it without disturbing the primary's resonance. But all 3 coils (primary and each half of the secondary) need to be balanced for that to happen, I think. It's interesting though, that Teets was talking about the TMT for awhile as the model for what he was doing. This arrangement of coils would seem to approximate that, in my estimation.

Hey Bob

Tito did say recently about a cap that produces a magnetic field. What is interesting is, I made a similar cap like that, not to those specs though. Also I was trying is as a secondary, not as a primary, and not near those voltages shown in the pdf.

Also interesting, using it as a primary, it is still a cap. More like an open ended winding rather than a winding connected from end to end to the circuit. Has me wondering if the cap primary could just be wire bifi coil and the opposite ends of each coil dont have to be connected to anything. The difference would be that the foil cap would have way more surface area and capacitance than a wire wound bifi, let alone all the resistance of the length of wire it would take to get as much capacitance.

This coils setup I made is possibly all wrong in comparison. Also im not looking to blast it with 40kv. So I wonder if anything good can be had at lower voltages for input.

In Titos circuit drawing, where it shows just 2 output leads, so it could still be the same as in the pdf as the 2 outer ends of the sec are connected to the same post on the bridge rectifier. If it is the same transformer that Tito used, he hid it well by making it seem like an ordinary transformer used in reverse of what it was intended for. But then again, it is a bit confusing, as Tito had described it as what would seem like many turns on the primary vs the sec, a 10 to 1 ratio(240v/24v). So I dont know yet. But most likely the key is to have the sec as shown in the pdf.

Anyway, got all weekend this week to play. So hopefully something good comes out of all this. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 20, 2015, 09:26:59 PM

why not try it instead of solar ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ae62f2luQw&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ae62f2luQw&feature=youtu.be)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeamGlYafbE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeamGlYafbE)

;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akqcos28R-0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akqcos28R-0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwiTIzkF4cw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwiTIzkF4cw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7E5NSFJIYU&list=PLMa_aFKXlKpZQtKd7K8-saYk7nEjs4VAe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7E5NSFJIYU&list=PLMa_aFKXlKpZQtKd7K8-saYk7nEjs4VAe)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5pGN6pqkyY

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on March 21, 2015, 02:34:51 AM

Tito:

STOP WASTING MY TIME:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM6-4D74bi4&feature=iv&src_vid=01s25kxoW6c&annotation_id=annotation_1697946849

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 23, 2015, 07:23:51 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on March 21, 2015, 02:34:51 AM
Tito:

STOP WASTING MY TIME:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM6-4D74bi4&feature=iv&src_vid=01s25kxoW6c&annotation_id=annotation_1697946849 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM6-4D74bi4&feature=iv&src_vid=01s25kxoW6c&annotation_id=annotation_1697946849)

No buddy, i'm not wasting your time, they look like working.

ok here it is: give a little study with this

=> Why is it that when you connect batteries in series, voltage goes up, what is the real reason behind it?. ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 23, 2015, 12:41:41 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 23, 2015, 07:23:51 AM

No buddy, i'm not wasting your time, they look like working.

ok here it is: give a little study with this

=> Why is it that when you connect batteries in series, voltage goes up, what is the real reason behind it?. ::)

"Why is it that when you connect batteries in series, voltage goes up, what is the real reason behind it?"

That is a very good question.

If we had 2 preloaded springs, 1 pound per spring, we should have 2 pounds loaded if we put them in series, inline.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on March 23, 2015, 12:50:26 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 23, 2015, 07:23:51 AM

No buddy, i'm not wasting your time, they look like working.

ok here it is: give a little study with this

=> Why is it that when you connect batteries in series, voltage goes up, what is the real reason behind it?. ::)

I would rather you gave some information about your working device than dubious youtube videos.
As for voltage in series, we are told that the pressure increases and (maybe) the speed of the electrons. What is your idea?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 23, 2015, 05:50:53 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on March 23, 2015, 12:41:41 PM
"Why is it that when you connect batteries in series, voltage goes up, what is the real reason behind it?"

That is a very good question.

If we had 2 preloaded springs, 1 pound per spring, we should have 2 pounds loaded if we put them in series, inline.

Mags

To explain a little further.... And possibly a correction. Dont know yet for sure.

Say we have 1 spring. A compressible spring with spacing between rungs. Say the spring is 10in long unloaded and can squeeze down to 5 in long at 1 pound of pressure. So in order to contain that compressed energy, the spring needs to be put in a holder, or even a lever that is held in place with a latch so the spring holds the energy until we decide to release the latch and use that compressed energy to do work.

Now, if we have 2 springs, total 20in long uncompressed, and we squeeze it down to 10in, each spring would be compressed to 1lb and each would be 5in long just as in the first example, and the total available pressure of the 2 inline would be 2lb. Now here is the possible correction... Until I try it, im not sure yet, but considering the paragraph after this, it may be that it only takes 1 pound to squeeze both springs inline to1lb each? ???

Now hear is the tricky part that doesnt make this a good analogy, or as I stated in the last paragraph, we may have to reverse things. Like possibly 2 springs inline are the same as 2 batteries in parallel and vice verse. If we put the 2 10in springs in parallel and compress them down to 5in each, it would take 2 pounds of pressure to get them compressed that way. Quite different than the batteries, where we wouldnt have to have 24v to fully charge the 2 12v batteries in parallel.

In each situation, the way the energy is released, the springs need to have a restraint removed that holds the spring, and the batteries only need a path for charge to flow, as when the batteries are not connected with a path for current to flow..

If we look at the springs, if it takes 1 lb of pressure to compress 2 inline springs down to 5in each, 1lb each, and call that a parallel analogy to the batteries, then the total length of expansion could equal more current, like batteries in parallel. And the 2 springs side by side would have shorter throw, but 2 times the pressure of 1 spring. Do both situations require 2lb to get all springs down to 1lb, 5in each??

Lol. It is interesting 'if'(if, dont know for sure) both inline springs and side by side springs need 2lb to get the springs down to 5in each in either situation, but the batteries we dont have that situation..

So the analogy 'may' not be good at all. So Titos question may be more important than we realize. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 23, 2015, 09:01:25 PM

Without the springs in front of me, just thinking about it, if we have 2 of the springs described before, say in a vertical tube, then we put one spring in and then the other, I think 1lb will compress them each down to the 5in 1lb rating of a single spring. The lower one may compress more due to the weight of the other spring. so if thats correct, then...

2 springs inline would be like 2 batts in parallel. And 2 springs side by side would be equal to 2 bats in series, and the reasons being voltage is pressure and weight is pressure. And I suppose current would be distance of motion for the springs. Example, 10 springs inline would take applying that pressure to compress them a longer time to do, at a particular rate.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 23, 2015, 09:19:47 PM

The pole changing and connection adds the voltage of the battery, that is why in voltage multiplier it needs the direction to change so that it adds up isn't it. ::) weird huh.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 23, 2015, 09:38:52 PM

Now lets say: we have one battery and we have three electrolitic cap of atleast 10k uf, then first connect them in parallel in the battery, then connect them in series with the battery and make a very fast and short discharge in a lots of coil in a continous manner . do you think we can power up our house?, well that is just very simple isn't it. :)

INSTEAD OF SOLAR POWER.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 23, 2015, 09:53:16 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 23, 2015, 09:38:52 PM
Now lets say: we have one battery and we have three electrolitic cap of atleast 10k uf, then first connect them in parallel in the battery, then connect them in series with the battery and make a very fast and short discharge in a lots of coil in a continous manner . do you think we can power up our house?, well that is just very simple isn't it. :)

INSTEAD OF SOLAR POWER.

Hey Tito

So what would be the difference between charging the caps that way, or using a switching power supply with a step up transformer?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on March 24, 2015, 02:23:01 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 23, 2015, 09:38:52 PM
Now lets say: we have one battery and we have three electrolitic cap of atleast 10k uf, then first connect them in parallel in the battery, then connect them in series with the battery and make a very fast and short discharge in a lots of coil in a continous manner . do you think we can power up our house?, well that is just very simple isn't it. :)

INSTEAD OF SOLAR POWER.

Tito: Do you mean something like this?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 24, 2015, 03:00:41 AM

Otits welcome back Now is 2015 just to remind you heheh

Ok ur last statement
in a relay set up
Battery first contact (NC) middle 3 10 uf in parallel then end of contact (NO) top positive of caps to coils in series Relay has coil enegized by same battery output can be in parallel with the coils is this what ur talking about >:( >:( >:( no more youtube videos please if its not yours heheh pampa hi blood hehehe 8)
http://youtu.be/-hXMWLFbH9M my solar charger

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 24, 2015, 06:51:06 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on March 24, 2015, 02:23:01 AM
Tito: Do you mean something like this?

ya, basically you are correct. :o

but it should be discharge in a sequence with the group of three. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 24, 2015, 06:53:42 AM

Quote from: totoalas on March 24, 2015, 03:00:41 AM
Otits welcome back Now is 2015 just to remind you heheh

Ok ur last statement
in a relay set up
Battery first contact (NC) middle 3 10 uf in parallel then end of contact (NO) top positive of caps to coils in series Relay has coil enegized by same battery output can be in parallel with the coils is this what ur talking about >:( >:( >:( no more youtube videos please if its not yours heheh pampa hi blood hehehe 8)
http://youtu.be/-hXMWLFbH9M (http://youtu.be/-hXMWLFbH9M) my solar charger

can you show it in a scheme? so that we can all sing. :D

e inaarchive ko nga sila todits e. intende? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 24, 2015, 07:05:09 AM

Otits
ang puso :D
This is ur idea so please clarify as we verify and apply to supply getz mo heheh
Na mimis na naming ang video mo kahit trailer lng (We miss ur video even in trailer vido only)

Anyway Peter Linderman has done it with his spark plug plasma circuit only difference the plug is replaced with coils as u say

Happy fiesta 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 24, 2015, 07:09:18 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on March 23, 2015, 09:53:16 PM
Hey Tito

So what would be the difference between charging the caps that way, or using a switching power supply with a step up transformer?

Mags

ya, right, nothing actually but they should be discharge in a sequence and charge in parallel. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 24, 2015, 07:12:26 AM

Quote from: totoalas on March 24, 2015, 07:05:09 AM
Otits
ang puso :D
This is ur idea so please clarify as we verify and apply to supply getz mo heheh
Na mimis na naming ang video mo kahit trailer lng (We miss ur video even in trailer vido only)

Anyway Peter Linderman has done it with his spark plug plasma circuit only difference the plug is replaced with coils as u say

Happy fiesta 8)

gusto ko kasi ay meju blurd para di kaagad makuha hehehehhehehhehe :D ;D

yung video e ineeskandalo ko pa para mas masarap.

saan fiesta? ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 24, 2015, 07:17:23 AM

This method actually is just to charge lots of battery or groups of battery so that we use it instead of using solar energy. intende? ;) 8)

sorry no more info :( that's all i can share. :)

but actually complete info already, please don't be mad ok. love you all bro. ;) :)

bye. otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: totoalas on March 24, 2015, 07:42:02 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 24, 2015, 07:17:23 AM
This method actually is just to charge lots of battery or groups of battery so that we use it instead of using solar energy. intende? ;) 8)

intendi con sintido cumon
ty salamat

see you again nxt year?grrrrr
same time same channel

sorry no more info :( that's all i can share. :)

but actually complete info already, please don't be mad ok. love you all bro. ;) :)

bye. otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 24, 2015, 12:55:03 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on March 24, 2015, 02:23:01 AM
Tito: Do you mean something like this?

I think what he is saying is....

While the caps are charging in parallel, then discharge short fast pulses from each cap to its own primary. So 3 primaries because if we are pulsing at high freq, each primary has a chance to recover. SO for example, if say the pulse rate for cap 1 is 10khz 10% duty cycle, then we are actually pulsing the transformer at 30khz. Freq may be way more than that. Just an example.

So it is pretty simple to have a transistor for each cap and primary while charging all caps in parallel. But then we have another problem. If the caps are in parallel, then why even try to discharge just one cap at a time? So we have to isolate the caps from each other, possibly a diode voltage multiplier would do it, but thats a series setup for the caps..

I thought that it was charge the caps in series and discharge them individually, a while back. ???

Oh well. The mystery continues. Still dazed and confused. ???

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 24, 2015, 01:04:46 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 23, 2015, 09:38:52 PM
Now lets say: we have one battery and we have three electrolitic cap of atleast 10k uf, then first connect them in parallel in the battery, then connect them in series with the battery and make a very fast and short discharge in a lots of coil in a continous manner . do you think we can power up our house?, well that is just very simple isn't it. :)

INSTEAD OF SOLAR POWER.

So there is a lot of switching. Charge caps in parallel, say 12v each, then we have 36v on just the caps in series. So if we series the caps with the battery, Im imagining that the battery is connected in opposing the caps in series so when we discharge the caps into coils, we are recharging the battery?

Otherwise we are pulling current from the battery all the time.

Mags

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 24, 2015, 01:11:13 PM

Oh. lots of switches not needed? The diode voltage multiplier is charging each cap in parallel with the battery, and the caps are already in series?? But they are not in series with the battery I wouldnt think. So some switching. I dunno.

So just transistor pulse each cap into its own primary in succession loop?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on March 24, 2015, 01:34:26 PM

Mags: just build a tesla controller switch.
transistors cannot handle this kind of disruptive discharge.
There is an old patent to this effect, and it also closely resembles Benitez's battery switching patent.
If you can figure out a way to do it electronically I'm all ears.
Maybe you should look at MAGNETIC AMPLIFiERS.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 24, 2015, 05:16:37 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on March 24, 2015, 01:34:26 PM
Mags: just build a tesla controller switch.
transistors cannot handle this kind of disruptive discharge.
There is an old patent to this effect, and it also closely resembles Benitez's battery switching patent.
If you can figure out a way to do it electronically I'm all ears.
Maybe you should look at MAGNETIC AMPLIFiERS.

Hey Aking

Well I was thinking that this may be a low voltage circuit. Not many 10kuf caps at 1000v or better out there. Is there?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on March 24, 2015, 07:23:51 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on March 24, 2015, 05:16:37 PM
Hey Aking

Well I was thinking that this may be a low voltage circuit. Not many 10kuf caps at 1000v or better out there. Is there?

Mags

No-one has mentioned 1000v. It's a 12 volt battery x 3 = 36 volts max.
If you want another low voltage device you could build this:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Bedini-Monopole-Mechanical-Oscillator/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 24, 2015, 08:37:31 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on March 24, 2015, 07:23:51 PM

No-one has mentioned 1000v. It's a 12 volt battery x 3 = 36 volts max.
If you want another low voltage device you could build this:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Bedini-Monopole-Mechanical-Oscillator/ (http://www.instructables.com/id/Bedini-Monopole-Mechanical-Oscillator/)

Im just sayin, transistors can handle 36v or 12v pretty good. So no need for a switch wheel with a driving motor and probably have to regulate the speed(another circuit) for optimum.

Saw som 10,000uf at 200v. Still can transistorize.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 24, 2015, 08:43:38 PM

Im not getting it yet. If the caps are in parallel to charge, and series to discharge, then why sequencing the caps 1 at a time for discharge? Something is not clear about this yet.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on March 25, 2015, 12:51:55 AM

What Tito meant by switching in sequence is:-- charge in parallel, discharge in series; and repeat THAT sequence rapidly.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 27, 2015, 11:25:23 PM

ok!if you can't do it then just do this:

http://www.johnsavesenergy.com/CapacitiveBatteryCharger.html#.VRYeKvyUfGg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/11461247@N02/4298679896/

Soooo simple isn't it?

bye ;)

;) 8)
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on March 28, 2015, 05:51:49 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 27, 2015, 11:25:23 PM
ok!if you can't do it then just do this:

http://www.johnsavesenergy.com/CapacitiveBatteryCharger.html#.VRYeKvyUfGg (http://www.johnsavesenergy.com/CapacitiveBatteryCharger.html#.VRYeKvyUfGg)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/11461247@N02/4298679896/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/11461247@N02/4298679896/)

Soooo simple isn't it?

bye ;)

;) 8)
;D

Where's the energy amplification in the circuit, Tito? :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: John.K1 on March 28, 2015, 12:30:45 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on March 12, 2015, 07:06:42 PM
Below is a pdf that I found interesting.

It shows how to make a capacitor that produces a magnetic field. Was a Tito quote. ;)

And near the end of the pdf is a circuit that reminds me of Titos first circuit. Also posted below.

Mags

I Have finished reading of that PDF. Have to say I need to read it probably more times as I do not fully follow. Long story short I have made extended TBC ( by using 0.127 mm thick brass sheets, thick plastic tape between ,height is around 50mm and the length around 200mm- making me 4 turns of spiral) and I am feeding it with HV from the flyback. I have also putted the 120W 220V halogen lamp in series with the spark gap between CD points. I can see nice very bright sharp and load sparks (SG is not heating-possibly because cold electricity) and the bulb brightnesses corresponds to the power in ( I go up to 18V @ 2.6A) How can I see a benefit from using this device? The same effect I can get by using standard capacitor too.
The first thing I was thinking when I saw this special coil is the Vasmus device. He has something similar in his device too. Just he is using some permalloy or mu-metal.

Good luck

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on March 28, 2015, 01:07:04 PM

Quote from: John.K1 on March 28, 2015, 12:30:45 PM
I Have finished reading of that PDF. Have to say I need to read it probably more times as I do not fully follow. Long story short I have made extended TBC ( by using 0.127 mm thick brass sheets, thick plastic tape between ,height is around 50mm and the length around 200mm- making me 4 turns of spiral) and I am feeding it with HV from the flyback. I have also putted the 120W 220V halogen lamp in series with the spark gap between CD points. I can see nice very bright sharp and load sparks (SG is not heating-possibly because cold electricity) and the bulb brightnesses corresponds to the power in ( I go up to 18V @ 2.6A) How can I see a benefit from using this device? The same effect I can get by using standard capacitor too.
The first thing I was thinking when I saw this special coil is the Vasmus device. He has something similar in his device too. Just he is using some permalloy or mu-metal.

Good luck

Hey John

Did you make the opposing coils also? Im trying to use a bifi coil in the same manner as the cap coil in the pdf, where the spark happens where the bifi coils join in the middle. Only using about 1kv source.

Just trying things. I intend on making the cap with foil as in the pdf. Need to find the insulator/dielectric material. Might have to get online.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: John.K1 on March 28, 2015, 01:16:47 PM

Hi Mag. What you mean opposing coils? I have made the same as on the picture in pdf. Like a capacitor - two brass sheets and the insulator between rolled in to the free spiral.

As the insulator I have used some heavy duty foil duck tape. It is as thick as a capton tape.

In the pdf there is mentioned ground - no picture there how to connect the ground. It might be it. Could the location of SG be important too? I putted it beside my coil. Maybe it shout be somewhere in the middle? :) It could make a sense as sparks emits particles.

Good luck

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on March 28, 2015, 05:43:21 PM

I like the flicker...for output...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 29, 2015, 02:36:44 AM

yeah....funny how incandescent bulbs are frequently broken when someone flip the switch

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on March 29, 2015, 01:10:27 PM

Quote from: forest on March 29, 2015, 02:36:44 AM
yeah....funny how incandescent bulbs are frequently broken when someone flip the switch

You know that's because of the mechanical stress caused as the filament rapidly heats don't you? They used to sell button shaped NTC thermistors that one placed in the bottom of a lamp socket that limited the inrush current and associated mechanical stress to cold incandenscent bulbs.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 29, 2015, 02:07:11 PM

Quote from: MarkE on March 29, 2015, 01:10:27 PM
You know that's because of the mechanical stress caused as the filament rapidly heats don't you? They used to sell button shaped NTC thermistors that one placed in the bottom of a lamp socket that limited the inrush current and associated mechanical stress to cold incandenscent bulbs.

No, it's only 1/2 of the answer ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on March 30, 2015, 06:23:29 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 27, 2015, 11:25:23 PM
ok!if you can't do it then just do this:

http://www.johnsavesenergy.com/CapacitiveBatteryCharger.html#.VRYeKvyUfGg (http://www.johnsavesenergy.com/CapacitiveBatteryCharger.html#.VRYeKvyUfGg)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/11461247@N02/4298679896/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/11461247@N02/4298679896/)

Soooo simple isn't it?

bye ;)

;) 8)
;D

Tito,(http://www.overunity.com/Themes/default/images/icons/clip.gif) resonance energy.pdf (http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/dlattach/attach/148226/) page 14,really simple : Minkowski Raumzeit-Kegel http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichtkegel (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichtkegel) (translation on the left side)

To realize the foil capacitor( Band Kondensator) by handscraft,yes -it is possible
but to realize this in a comercial manner for mass production it is more difficult !
I got my experience: BK Brandenburgische Kondensatoren
http://www.bkprenzlau.de/ (http://www.bkprenzlau.de/)

The technology is similar like the ancient flash light adapter used for photo cameras.
Flashcube and Magicube http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitzlichtbirne (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitzlichtbirne)
but this then as capacitor : evacuated.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 09, 2015, 04:07:49 PM

TITO: It seems you were right all along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKC4fX3XOp4

The pack is onto it now.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 10, 2015, 06:36:05 AM

oh really? ;D :D ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7DgPmkg-74 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7DgPmkg-74)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Rxi8JMIys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Rxi8JMIys)

imagine there is real power though it is very small.

all we need is amplification isn't it. :)

The chinese business technique is effective why?, nothing its just effective. ;D :D

small interest but many separated business isn't it?, did you get it? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 10, 2015, 03:53:18 PM

or feed back to grow if you can stop in proper time aka snowball, right ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 10, 2015, 07:21:37 PM

Quote from: forest on April 10, 2015, 03:53:18 PM
or feed back to grow if you can stop in proper time aka snowball, right ?

well, ya right bingo. :D your good huh >:( :D ;) ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on April 15, 2015, 02:32:40 PM

Quote from: forest on April 10, 2015, 03:53:18 PM
or feed back to grow if you can stop in proper time aka snowball, right ?

But need the amp magic coil....thats all about....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION = multiplication
Post by: that_prophet on April 16, 2015, 11:13:42 AM

FREE ENERGY HAS BEEN FOUND
-------------------------------------------------
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/
   Yes, that is correct, Free Energy has been discovered, this electricity multiplier mechanism is dirt simple, and extremely easy to build, with spare parts even. Building this type of free energy device is not only easy, but is simple also, costing practically nothing to produce. This is mainly because you are able to build this contraption with spare parts, and very few parts at that.

   This device is extremely easy to build, with only a few moving parts, such as at least two pulleys, one large pulley, one or many small pulleys, and a belt, strap, rope or even string in a pinch, to connect the two pulleys together. There are only two more moving parts here, a DC drive motor, and at least one AC output motor/generator. I say at least one, as you could have many more, as the more generators you have, the greater the multiplication factor of your electricity multiplier unit. You can also increase your multiplication factor by increasing the circumference of your drive pulley, or decreasing the circumference of the output pulleys.

   The workings of this miraculous mechanism are pretty straightforward, and can be described by using a multiplication factor of rotations, by merely changing the size of pulleys. You put an extremely small amount of DC electricity into the drive motor, which has a 100cm circumference and only needs to do one single revolution. This drive pulley is connected to at least one one-centimetre circumference mini-pulley that acts as an output device, giving us 100 units of AC electricity, per every output pulley that is connected.

   I suppose that you might be able to see how this could start adding up, giving you 100 units of AC electricity for every output mini-pulley that you attach to the system. If you only added 10 of these mini-pulleys, then you would gain 1000 units of AC electricity, for every single input revolution of the DC motor that you put into this free energy device, otherwise known as GEM = Geometric Electricity Multiplier

http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION = multiplication
Post by: that_prophet on April 16, 2015, 11:19:47 AM

· THIS DOES WORK !!!
It just takes you to look past the lie,
That evil forces are whispering in your ear,
It is pure logic, that pulleys multiply rotations,
+ with AC electricity, revolutions equal AC power,
Satan hides this super simple free energy technology,
By immediately bringing up torque needed to rotate pulley,
Letting you forget AC motors are a breeze to rotate,
You could easily have 10 – 100 of them rotating at once,
And when the drag of load attacks, it is minimized by 1/10th to 1/100th,
Because of it getting divided up, so it lessens it so severely, that it works
Please believe me, and my Lord + Savior, Jesus Christ,,,
God So Much Wants to Give us this Little Miracle Device,,

http://free-energy.yolasite.com/
[/quote]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on April 16, 2015, 11:50:10 AM

IT DOES NOT WORK, and for you to claim that it does, without even trying it for yourself, is simply a LIE. What does your Christian faith say about lying LIARS and the lies they tell?

You have been pushing the exact same nonsense for years. Go ahead and build it yourself and see for yourself. It does not work, your assumptions are incorrect and you clearly don't understand the mechanics of rotating systems or electronics. Give it up! You are just wasting what time you have left on this nonsensical NON WORKING scheme of yours.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on April 16, 2015, 12:30:06 PM

Hello everyone,

The set up which Tito always told us is a simple technique which he has found very effective on charging he's battery. That is why he prefer us to follow the path of DC Amplification..

Here is my answer to those who are still confuse of what is Energy Amplification which Tito is talking.. He is actually a very clever man which stumble upon the system of Nikola Tesla's Energy Amplification..

Energy Amplification which Tito means is the principle of Nikola Tesla device which generate High Frequency.. The energy Amplification is about how you design a High Frequency Generator which can withstand 10,000 , 15,000 , 20,0000 unto millions of alternations/ cycle per second..

The perma alloy/soft steel you always seen on each succesful replicator of Free Energy Device is a step down transformer for feeding the starting power starter.... soft iron/powdered is best used on this side because it can withstand the High Frequency oscillation on the output side of your High Frequency Generator...

This is the device which compose all of Tito's device.. A battery- capacitor- step down transformer(powdered iron is preferred) -- 1 diode or Full Wave Bridge Rectifier which can withstand the Frequency -.. This is the very concept of his design charge the battery with 50Khz and discharge only 60hz do you think every juice will be discharged?

Always remember that the secret of all of this free energy is the Capacitor/Condenser discharge.. The high frequency oscillation result of the Capacitor discharge is the reason we can attain any power we desire..

Meow

Quote from: a.king21 on March 28, 2015, 05:51:49 AM

Where's the energy amplification in the circuit, Tito? :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on April 16, 2015, 02:46:06 PM

Hi folks, Hi stupify12, do you have a schematic or a device to help explain what you just described, thanks.
peace love light

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 16, 2015, 02:51:33 PM

Right. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on April 16, 2015, 06:28:14 PM

In the Tito's country it is a common device which is used for Electric Fishing which is drawn on the schematic which Tito had tested and replicated to understand the High Frequency principle..

The Switch is a metal contact which is put near the Laminated Iron core of the transformer for make and break switching..

Tito used Flange and Hinges as metal contacts.. A very effective device for electrifying fish and also your to anyone who step on the river . With 2-3 small condenser that is used on old model motorcycles you can generate enough voltage that can electrify a person and even light a bulb..

When used as fishing device there is no diode needed on the output side.. This device is the very first set up Tito work on..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 16, 2015, 06:57:57 PM

Very interesting circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 17, 2015, 10:19:16 PM

if that is the case i think i prefer to use a small inverter which are readily available in lots of mall here in the philippines.

and do you know that i upgraded my electric fish catching using inverter, no more hinges , no more noise and no more switch contacts wear.

and very small size and very light weight. ;D amazing...............

and we are always in constant 220volts. ;D

ready made just plug and play amigo. :D ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 18, 2015, 05:22:24 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 17, 2015, 10:19:16 PM
if that is the case i think i prefer to use a small inverter which are readily available in lots of mall here in the philippines.

and do you know that i upgraded my electric fish catching using inverter, no more hinges , no more noise and no more switch contacts wear.

and very small size and very light weight. ;D amazing...............

and we are always in constant 220volts. ;D

ready made just plug and play amigo. :D ;D

;D

That's interesting: (I live near a river.) How many watts does your electric fish catching device put out?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on April 18, 2015, 03:54:04 PM

Now use the imput...without using it ! ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 20, 2015, 10:13:00 PM

Quote from: zdiblo on April 18, 2015, 03:54:04 PM
Now use the imput...without using it ! ;D ;D ;D

Ya, you are very correct, cause we are just connected only in one side and no other connection at the other. :) 8)
and at the same time, we can charge our source battery. 8) [size=78%] [/size]

$ aking
300 watts is enough to electrocute the fish and other persons in the vicinity. :D ;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on April 21, 2015, 12:13:41 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 20, 2015, 10:13:00 PM

Ya, you are very correct, cause we are just connected only in one side and no other connection at the other. :) 8)
and at the same time, we can charge our source battery. 8) [size=78%] [/size]

;D

then imput not know anything about the output ...
and we can make many .... right? :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 21, 2015, 03:17:39 PM

many in linear mode or rise to the limit in non-linear mode or snowball mode , like Hubbard when he was able to get 40kW out from the small device , but Hendershot first do not, why ? - do you know ?
look carefully and compare both devices

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 21, 2015, 04:14:36 PM

Thanks Tito. I get it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on April 21, 2015, 10:05:44 PM

I happen to be struggling with an electronic simulator at the moment,
trying to get a working model of this awesome free energy machine that God Shared
I believe that He wishes for this to be priority for me,
it is so simple, and easy to build,
could I ask for help getting a working model of this device out to the world,

http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

evil forces have put up barriers for me at every turn,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
THIS WORKS, IT IS SO SIMPLE THAT IT HAS TO WORK

this device generates AC electricity by using mechanics of varying pulley sizes
to multiply rotations,
generated additional AC electricity by using multiple generators

Free Energy made simple = electricity multiplier using 100cm to 1cm pulleys

Don't believe in God or good + evil forces
Free Energy is so simple,,, that it MUST be hidden by evil forces.

It is simplicity at its best; you simple put the minimal power into a DC motor with a 100cm pulley connected to it, which only has to rotate the once. This large pulley is connected to a belt, strap, rope or even string in a pinch, which is also connected to another small one cm pulley, which rotates 100 times. So you put in the DC power to rotate your input motor only the once, and you get out of this system 100 cycles of AC power. You have just created your first free energy machine, that multiplied your electricity by 50 or 100. If anybody starts complaining about torque being a problem, just think about how smoothly bearings are nowadays, as well as how easily electric motors rotate. You could add ten of these small pulleys, without gaining any sufficient torque, giving you a 1000 power electricity multiplier.

A drawing and better description of how this works is at:
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

Please believe me + not all of the evil spirits
That are continuously saying, "this won't work"

Free energy is super simple
It has been staring us right in the face
Ever since we discovered how to make AC electricity

How is AC electricity made?
It is simply made by rotating wheels or pulleys
With these wheels connected to an AC motor
Which is easily created, by using a few coils of wires
And rotating them within the field of two opposing magnets

They will try to say what about torque
Torque is not a problem in the slightest,
As electric motors are the easiest to rotate
They have some of the smoothest running bearings

So you could add tens, maybe even hundreds
Of these AC motors, attached to mini pulleys of one cm circumference
On the same belt that you have a DC motor attached to as a drive motor
With a large 100 cm circumference pulley or even larger
So you only have to input enough electricity to rotate the drive motor one rotation
Then you get 100 cycles of AC electricity out of this system
For every mini pulley with an AC motor attached that you connect to the belt

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 30, 2015, 06:52:24 AM

ok! Let the moving electron effect in a wire becomes the amplifier to the wire itself. that's amazing. ;) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on April 30, 2015, 03:20:39 PM

but amps are complex effect ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on April 30, 2015, 06:13:29 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 30, 2015, 06:52:24 AM
ok! Let the moving electron effect in a wire becomes the amplifier to the wire itself. that's amazing. ;) 8)

How do you mean??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on April 30, 2015, 09:01:17 PM

first reduce the source then the moving amps from the wire be the amplifier, but we can only do that if there is a load to make electrons move.

off course we have to concentrate it then the concentrated energy will be push as it goes inward. 8)

note: only there is a strong magnetic field if there is moving electrons right?. 8)
the thing for it to work is the successive push.

so long fel. happy experimenting. ;)

MANNY PAKYAW YOU CAN DO IT BRO. ;) let's get it on tiger!
MAYWEATHER IS JUST A BAD WEATHER. IKA NGA WEATHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, WEATHER WEATHER LAANG YAAN. :D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 02, 2015, 03:51:48 AM

informative ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh_aCAHThTQ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 02, 2015, 04:16:40 AM

Tito...your extra coil :o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWu9jneWaI0

Perpetuum tail machine ;D ;D ;D

seems completly independent part :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on May 02, 2015, 11:01:25 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 02, 2015, 03:51:48 AM
informative ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh_aCAHThTQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh_aCAHThTQ)

Ok Where's the cap??
You're talking reactive -
VAR? right?

PS Don't forget to turn your refrigerator off to save power during the boxing match cos your government does not
have enough electricity to cope.
Get the message?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on May 02, 2015, 02:50:25 PM

Quote from: forest on May 02, 2015, 04:16:40 AM
Tito...your extra coil :o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWu9jneWaI0

Perpetuum tail machine ;D ;D ;D

seems completly independent part :P

;D ;D ;D ...Tito excuse ... he's funny ...

Energy amplification...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VuMdLm0ccU
2>1... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 03, 2015, 11:27:25 PM

NOW IN MAYPAC FIGHT, WE CAN SAY THAT JUDGES ARE REALLY TALENTED BECAUSE THEY CAN JUDGE WHILE COOKING. ;D

WHAT A GOOD SHEF THEY ARE. :o ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 03, 2015, 11:33:49 PM

Quote from: forest on May 02, 2015, 04:16:40 AM
Tito...your extra coil :o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWu9jneWaI0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWu9jneWaI0)

Perpetuum tail machine ;D ;D ;D

seems completly independent part :P

try to cut the tail and no more free rotation. ;D

and try to put it in his nose ,and he will wonder why you did that. ;D

like this one => ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 03, 2015, 11:40:26 PM

Quote from: zdiblo on May 02, 2015, 02:50:25 PM

;D ;D ;D ...Tito excuse ... he's funny ...

Energy amplification...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VuMdLm0ccU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VuMdLm0ccU)
2>1... ;D ;D ;D

YA RIGHT, ENERGY CAN DO SOMETHING THEY DON'T KNOW. GOT IT? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 03, 2015, 11:57:41 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on May 02, 2015, 11:01:25 AM

Ok Where's the cap??
You're talking reactive -
VAR? right?

PS Don't forget to turn your refrigerator off to save power during the boxing match cos your government does not
have enough electricity to cope.
Get the message?

WHY shut it off if you're independent. we are not affected okay. :D
so what if diesel and gasoline continous to go up if we are not affected, who cares! :D

caps can be use as delays, buffers , kickers and maintainers etc.
i'm talking one way ticket to the blue. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfjTZ72OqtU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfjTZ72OqtU)

and also the lamda diode is just like this one, it was forbidden => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkFOSZ00Pn4

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on May 04, 2015, 12:06:13 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 03, 2015, 11:57:41 PM

WHY shut if off if you're independent. we are not affected okay. :D
so what if diesel and gasoline continous to go up if we are not affected, who cares! :D

caps can be use as delays, buffers , kickers and maintainers etc.
i'm talking one way ticket to the blue. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfjTZ72OqtU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfjTZ72OqtU)

Why not post some meaningful information and shame the Devil.
BTW Your fellow countrymen are not independent. They DO care about the price of fuel.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 04, 2015, 12:48:24 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on May 04, 2015, 12:06:13 AM

Why not post some meaningful information and shame the Devil.
BTW Your fellow countrymen are not independent. They DO care about the price of fuel.

:D forest and zdible started it, for i can show much more funnier than those. ;D

some other time bro. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on May 04, 2015, 07:45:51 AM

FREE ENERGY IS SUPER SIMPLE,,,,
you put DC electricity into a motor that turns a large pulley attached
then you run a belt to one to ten mini-pulleys with AC motors attached
this gives you 100's or AC units of energy
you run this into a full wave bridge rectifier
which gives you more than enough DC electricity
to drive your large pulley DC motor
which only turned once
just a spark of electricity

http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

IT IS TRUELY THAT SIMPLE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on May 04, 2015, 09:07:17 AM

That_prophet - Your battery anomaly which
has sent you on a wild goose chase has been explained here:

http://www.energeticforum.com/274771-post462.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/274771-post462.html)

Free energy is possible but not in the way you say.

What you are peddling has been done here in the PROPER way

http://johnbedini.net/john34/bedinibearden.html (http://johnbedini.net/john34/bedinibearden.html)

If your system really works then why not buy a quantity of toy motors
from China, a quantity of rubber bands, some balsa wood and show us a working model.
It's not that hard.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 04, 2015, 01:17:16 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 03, 2015, 11:57:41 PM

and also the lamda diode is just like this one, it was forbidden => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkFOSZ00Pn4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkFOSZ00Pn4)

Been reading my book on regulated power supplies. There is a section on using mosfets inplace of diodes. One efficient property is lower voltage drop. Then you also have fast switching speed.

Hmm, can a mosfet be used as a detector for a crystal radio set?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on May 04, 2015, 01:37:03 PM

YA RIGHT, ENERGY CAN DO SOMETHING THEY DON'T KNOW. GOT IT? ;D

;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on May 04, 2015, 01:56:14 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 04, 2015, 12:48:24 AM

:D forest and zdible started it, for i can show much more funnier than those. ;D

some other time bro. ;)

So if everyone jumps off a cliff, will you follow them??
Are you a follower or a leader?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 04, 2015, 03:46:33 PM

http://lowres.cartoonstock.com/animals-lemmings-suicidal-cliff-jumps-jumpers-mlyn188_low.jpg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on May 04, 2015, 04:19:13 PM

THE ONLY WAY... One Direction...:D :D :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCEnOih8AOg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 04, 2015, 04:45:19 PM

Quote from: zdiblo on May 04, 2015, 04:19:13 PM
THE ONLY WAY... One Direction... :D :D :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCEnOih8AOg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCEnOih8AOg)

yeah I know - the only true radio ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on May 04, 2015, 09:45:11 PM

Tito: Here's a new business for your free electricity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2-kfbjxKLc (http://www.energeticforum.com/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DI2-kfbjxKLc)[/font][/size]

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 05, 2015, 01:35:21 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on May 04, 2015, 01:56:14 PM

So if everyone jumps off a cliff, will you follow them??
Are you a follower or a leader?

Are you serious?!, i just ride them cause they are joking. and i'm more better than them. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 05, 2015, 02:50:56 AM

A.King21 there is always the better way the best way the easiest way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9HguyXRHr8

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on May 05, 2015, 03:59:15 PM

Quote from: that_prophet on May 04, 2015, 07:45:51 AM
FREE ENERGY IS SUPER SIMPLE,,,,
you put DC electricity into a motor that turns a large pulley attached
then you run a belt to one to ten mini-pulleys with AC motors attached
this gives you 100's or AC units of energy
you run this into a full wave bridge rectifier
which gives you more than enough DC electricity
to drive your large pulley DC motor
which only turned once
just a spark of electricity

http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

IT IS TRUELY THAT SIMPLE

FREE ENERGY IS SUPER SIMPLE,,,,
This technology has been skilfully side-stepped
By the evil forces in this world
As in, fallen angels + demons following Satan

You put DC electricity into a motor rotating a large 100cm pulley
+ you run a belt to one - ten mini-pulleys with AC motors attached
giving you 100's of units of AC for every mini-pulley added
you run this AC electricity into a full wave bridge rectifier
which gives you more than enough DC electricity
to drive your large pulley DC motor
which only turned once
one rotation of 3 phase motor is just 3 sparks of electricity

So,,, you put in three sparks of DC electricity into the motor
With the 100cm circumference pulley attached
Strapped with a belt that turns 100 centimetres of belt
Past a 1cm circumference pulley with an AC motor attached
Rotating the ten AC motor that is connected to it 100 times,
Giving you 100 units of AC electricity for every mini-pulley
10 X 100 = 1000 units of AC electricity out of this system
while only putting 3 sparks of DC electricity

the math is obvious,,, 333 sparks of AC electricity out
for every DC spark in,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

IT IS TRUELY THAT SIMPLE

This electricity multiplier is so simple
That it will hopefully disgust you into doing something,
About these Humanist religious beliefs
Being systematically taught to our children as FACT,
Where they are given as facts
that are indisputable and only common sense
There are textbooks of EVil-sOLUTION is being crammed down their throats
Not only is this done, but they don't allow any other views be proposed
Such as Creation by a Good God in six days
The big bang is a creation by explosion
The universe is still expanding, faster +.faster
The moon, (God's Creation hourglass)
=good place to measure time
From the point of Creation onward
As it has no atmospheres, to disturb the steady deposit
Of space dust that is throughout the universe

The moon, (God's Creation Hourglass)
Has only a small amount of dust on the surface
Which is about 6 000 years worth of dust on it,
Not billions of years
Which would be hundreds of meters

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on May 06, 2015, 03:40:05 PM

@Tito
Do you use alum plate as TK? or only coils.
Are you pulsing more than 100v? To be efficient have to pulse it with how many volts.... I don't like HV... :)
Simple questions from a Newbie.... :) :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 07, 2015, 05:30:15 AM

Quote from: zdiblo on May 06, 2015, 03:40:05 PM
@Tito
Do you use alum plate as TK? or only coils.
Are you pulsing more than 100v? To be efficient have to pulse it with how many volts.... I don't like HV... :)
Simple questions from a Newbie.... :) :)

it actually depends on the design.
but coil, caps and some controls are our master's choice of toys. 8)
i used aluminum foil in my antenna and putting some perfect circles for much more efficient and still in slanted position like what our master says, right?. 8) ;)

low volts pulsing is much better as much as possible. but we can do it in high as long as ways are made perfect to avoid spilling of power. 8) ;) :D let say for example, i made a strong kick in your ass. what will you feel?, and that is actually the reason why contacts are being destroyed. :D

well, speed is power. The faster the better with peanut butter. ;) ;) :D
that is a question of a brilliant thinker actually. ;)

etiots. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 07, 2015, 05:35:22 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on May 04, 2015, 01:17:16 PM
Been reading my book on regulated power supplies. There is a section on using mosfets inplace of diodes. One efficient property is lower voltage drop. Then you also have fast switching speed.

Hmm, can a mosfet be used as a detector for a crystal radio set?

Mags

actually i don't know if i'm being ask. your research are too deep now. i salute you friend, i will try that. thank you. :)

but in my sense is that, sensitivity is much priority for detection to consider first, well, faster switching is good, who knows, maybe it depends, I CANNOT DANCE. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 07, 2015, 06:08:06 AM

consider this: let say for example, while a single electron is travelling in a long wire, can it not do some work while moving?, before it goes to its point of use or final destination. ::)

NOTE: AN ELECTRON HAS A NATURAL EFFECT OF MFIELD IS IT NOT? :o ::) :'(

WHY NOT PEANUT COCONUT DONUT!? ;D

SOME OTHER TIME EVERYONE ;D

OTEITOTS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tysb3 on May 07, 2015, 11:57:06 AM

there it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YreCJDvIX2Q

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on May 07, 2015, 12:43:45 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 07, 2015, 05:30:15 AM

it actually depends on the design.
but coil, caps and some controls are our master's choice of toys. 8)
i used aluminum foil in my antenna and putting some perfect circles for much more efficient and still in slanted position like what our master says, right?. 8) ;)

low volts pulsing is much better as much as possible. but we can do it in high as long as ways are made perfect to avoid spilling of power. 8) ;) :D let say for example, i made a strong kick in your ass. what will you feel?, and that is actually the reason why contacts are being destroyed. :D

well, speed is power. The faster the better with peanut butter. ;) ;) :D

that is a question of a brilliant thinker actually. ;)

etiots. ;D

After the kick i would made lots of kickers .......... in lots of ......... and made lots of collectors in Jesus cross way ..... ;)

Thanks for the kick ... 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on May 07, 2015, 04:25:29 PM

Let me describe a simple project:
You have a 100cm circumference pulley attached to a DC motor,
You connect a belt to this large pulley + 10 small 1cm circumference pulleys,
These mini-pulleys have AC motors/generators attached, (with no load at first)
Now you rotate the large pulley by hand,

This gives you a return of 10 X 100 = 1000 units of AC power
Now,,, try and tell me that this 1000 units of AC electricity,
Does not have enough voltage (electrical pressure)
To rotate your DC motor one time, (all voltage + only a spark of current)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on May 07, 2015, 04:58:08 PM

It is useless for you to continue spamming SIX THREADS with your unworkable device (which, by the way, is a member of a class of devices called "Q-Mo-Gens" by Sterling Allan at PESN).
This scheme _does not work_ and if you would just do a few actual experiments of your own, you might come to realize it yourself. In the meantime, just what is your justification for posting the _same things_ in six different threads? Do you think you'll do anything besides annoy people with your spamming of the forum?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 08, 2015, 04:54:10 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 07, 2015, 04:58:08 PM
It is useless for you to continue spamming SIX THREADS with your unworkable device (which, by the way, is a member of a class of devices called "Q-Mo-Gens" by Sterling Allan at PESN).
This scheme _does not work_ and if you would just do a few actual experiments of your own, you might come to realize it yourself. In the meantime, just what is your justification for posting the _same things_ in six different threads? Do you think you'll do anything besides annoy people with your spamming of the forum?

Don't you get it buddy, those are suppressors. the main purpose is to make the thread dirty, and previous important post will not be in front page anymore. ok? :D ;D

One thing more, what i believe is That_prophet is not a prophet but a puppet ;D

puppetits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on May 08, 2015, 01:23:32 PM

Maybe this works as ENERGY AMPLIFICATION ;D ;D ;D or a toaster ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
so crazy... 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phxd3Kqoss4

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on May 08, 2015, 02:53:26 PM

Is the Bedini Generator Mode a boost circuit ???? ;D ;D ;D an amplifier?
Wat to do with it???? charge a battery??? ;)
please tell me...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 24, 2015, 08:43:05 PM

Quote from: zdiblo on May 08, 2015, 02:53:26 PM
Is the Bedini Generator Mode a boost circuit ??? ? ;D ;D ;D an amplifier?
Wat to do with it? ??? charge a battery??? ;)
please tell me...

That is actually a battery charger, a begenie circuit. :D

What really happens when a battery is being charge? ???

= it just reseparate the charge, making a sucking action of electrons from the positive side and forcing them go back in the negative side.
note : no power being used from the source in the secondary but force effect that makes separation. got it?. ;) 8)

otoitits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 24, 2015, 09:22:48 PM

is this free energy or what? >:(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk9zs0EQIQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg4LK9AJ6mQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQym6x0PiCg

i think mr teslonian deserve a big round of a applause :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzaInlFVq0s

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Pirate88179 on May 24, 2015, 09:34:47 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 24, 2015, 09:22:48 PM
is this free energy or what? >:(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk9zs0EQIQ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk9zs0EQIQ8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg4LK9AJ6mQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg4LK9AJ6mQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQym6x0PiCg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQym6x0PiCg)

i think mr teslonian deserve a big round of a applause :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzaInlFVq0s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzaInlFVq0s)

More like..."Or What."

Bill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 25, 2015, 07:11:28 PM

It could be used to make electricity if the ram pumped water into a holding tank then ran into a pelton wheel to turn a gen.
Solar during the day pelton wheel at night or when the tank was full.
The ram pump requires a specific terrain and water supply but it is doable.

Unless the water from the pelton wheel were used to feed the ram pump :o

lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 25, 2015, 09:28:09 PM

how about combining this ram pump technology into our siphon i've talk about very long time ago?. ;)

to make a perpetual flowing of water. :) ;) 8)

what do you think Sir wattsup? :D

THEN JUST THINK BIG. :D

I THINK THIS IS MUCH SIMPLER DESIGN. :)

otitites

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on May 25, 2015, 10:27:27 PM

Tito: so the analogy is high voltage into a lower voltage. Right?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 26, 2015, 06:54:11 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on May 25, 2015, 10:27:27 PM
Tito: so the analogy is high voltage into a lower voltage. Right?

Actually i'm just talking about bigger version then to rotate a generator using a continous flowing of water. :D

high voltage to low voltage is not always work in some cases, the secret is accumulation. ;) 8) :)

Consider this: if you have a small flowing of water into a big tank, then using that big volume by a small fraction to create a big boom. ;) 8)

The small stone ice from top of the hill that tesla tries to teach us is just actually an accumulation right buddy?, ;)
so long buddy, happy experimenting. hope you can get it everyone. ;)

but there is always a better way and automatic technique. :)

NOW THAT IS A VERY OBIUS TIP OKAY. EVERYTHING IS SAID ALREADY!
ALL YOU NEED NOW IS JUST THE ACTUAL THING HOW TO DO IT RIGHT, NOW THAT IS YOUR PART OK? ;) :)

;D >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on May 26, 2015, 07:31:49 AM

Do you not understand that pumps like that only pump a _fraction_ of the water that is supplied? Look at the right side of the drawing, do you see the exhaust ports? Most of the water that comes in to such a pump is vented overboard at the level of the pump and only a small portion of the supplied water is actually pumped up to higher level.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 26, 2015, 08:07:08 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 24, 2015, 08:43:05 PM

That is actually a battery charger, a begenie circuit. :D

What really happens when a battery is being charge? ???

= it just reseparate the charge, making a sucking action of electrons from the positive side and forcing them go back in the negative side.
note : no power being used from the source in the secondary but force effect that makes separation. got it?. ;) 8)

otoitits ;D

This key when working with a battery.
Take the boost convertor it just runs electrons from the neg to the pos if scaled up it moves electrons faster.
Bedini found it takes two battery's one to run the circuit and one on charge.
But Bedini's circuit uses a boost circuit to charge, a buck convertor may be better.

I think the best that can be accomplished is to extend the run time of the battery, with the right circuit.

One may look at battery charging circuits, then run the load on a separate circuit.

Dont hold me to this I just started looking into solar panels and solar chargers but I think the mppt charger uses a buck convertor to get maximum current to the battery's Im looking into this further.

dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on May 26, 2015, 12:44:32 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 26, 2015, 06:54:11 AM

high voltage to low voltage is not always work in some cases, the secret is accumulation. ;) 8)

I think we can get this accumulation with the right 3 coil setup...Tito can tell us more about how to coil it? ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on May 26, 2015, 02:48:53 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 26, 2015, 07:31:49 AM
Do you not understand that pumps like that only pump a _fraction_ of the water that is supplied? Look at the right side of the drawing, do you see the exhaust ports? Most of the water that comes in to such a pump is vented overboard at the level of the pump and only a small portion of the supplied water is actually pumped up to higher level.

nevermind

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 26, 2015, 08:37:06 PM

Battery charging circuit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on May 28, 2015, 09:47:37 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 26, 2015, 06:54:11 AM

Actually i'm just talking about bigger version then to rotate a generator using a continous flowing of water. :D

high voltage to low voltage is not always work in some cases, the secret is accumulation. ;) 8) :)

Consider this: if you have a small flowing of water into a big tank, then using that big volume by a small fraction to create a big boom. ;) 8)

I Tito , good "simplification" to show the basic concept that Nikola Tesla explain in some of their notes ;) There are people who still will not be able to see the obvious because simple ignore the more simple and evident phenomenon that are present in every day .
The most big things born of small and simple ideias , now people like "complicate" what are simple .

People not understand the real meaning of discharging a capacitor have the same effect of a big "hammer hitting with full force" when discharge. We can discharge a big capacitor to a smaller creating a pulse of high "hammer hitting".
I understand what you try to explain.

The other thing that people need to understand is that capacitor is not filled with load of current feature but with BEMF.
Sometimes i see people near to achieve and be presented with this beautiful effects , but in an instant, some people introduce "noise" diverting people from the right path.But maybe it is intended to be so or not ....
Most of these people only know to criticize however the "wisdom" of them, is far from're talking about.

Good luck to all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S4lCUvzn0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnpB_gqH6HU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 28, 2015, 06:47:01 PM

QuoteThe other thing that people need to understand is that capacitor is not filled with load of current feature but with BEMF.

I guess it would depend on the circuit but if you charge one side of the cap with bemf (positive), then the ground side is charged as well, negative.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 29, 2015, 12:41:29 AM

Was just looking at super caps on a site. Seems most are 2.7v at what ever hundreds to thousands of farads. Then I was thinking, gee, say 500F cap is 2.7v, if I need to operate at a higher voltage, I would need more caps in series.

Typically we are trained to think that caps, at say 1000uf 10v, in parallel will increase the capacitance. So 10 of these caps would be 10,000uf. Correct?

So now, we take those 10 caps and we put them in series. What would our total capacitance be? ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Maybe this is nothing new or special. To me it is, or it seems so at the moment. Does anyone have an answer? ;D

Be back in a bit. Eat and showa.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 29, 2015, 01:54:16 AM

Ok, here is what Im thinking.

In general terms, 2 10uf caps in parallel is suppose to be 20uf. So what is 2 10uf caps in series??

It is 10 uf. 2 10 uf caps in series is 10 uf. It depends on voltage. ;)

Say the 2 caps 10uf 10v are in parallel. We have 20uf at 10v.

Now we put those caps in series. If we only apply 10v across the caps in series, each will only get 5v at a value of 5uf(maybe?) total. But if we apply 20v across the series set, then we have 20v at 10uf. No???

So, if I need 48v for my electric bike, I would need about 18 500F 2.7v caps in series. And that series bank would be 48v at 500F.. the only real difference is the ESR total, which would be increased resistance of the whole.

Seems odd doesnt it? It doesnt feel right in a way. It has me thinking that my total capacitance should be less than what 1 of the series caps is. Maybe it is the honey nut cheerios. :o Weird. At least it hits me that way. I feel I am always suppose to expect less capacitance when they are in series. But that is only when the comparison is made with the same input voltage and neglecting that the series string can carry X(no. of caps)xV in series.

More thoughts on this later, as I have more thoughts on this. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: padova on May 29, 2015, 04:32:23 AM

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on May 28, 2015, 09:47:37 AM
Sometimes i see people near to achieve and be presented with this beautiful effects , but in an instant, some people introduce "noise" diverting people from the right path.But maybe it is intended to be so or not ....
Most of these people only know to criticize however the "wisdom" of them, is far from're talking about.

Good luck to all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S4lCUvzn0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnpB_gqH6HU

Hi nelsonrochaa

Yes, sometimes people can't see what is in front of theirs eyes or noses :) That is the world as is.

As always , nice interesting videos from you. Could we ask for the schematic, very interesting oscillator.

keep up the good work

regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on May 29, 2015, 06:41:36 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on May 29, 2015, 12:41:29 AM
Was just looking at super caps on a site. Seems most are 2.7v at what ever hundreds to thousands of farads. Then I was thinking, gee, say 500F cap is 2.7v, if I need to operate at a higher voltage, I would need more caps in series.

Typically we are trained to think that caps, at say 1000uf 10v, in parallel will increase the capacitance. So 10 of these caps would be 10,000uf. Correct?

So now, we take those 10 caps and we put them in series. What would our total capacitance be? ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Maybe this is nothing new or special. To me it is, or it seems so at the moment. Does anyone have an answer? ;D

Be back in a bit. Eat and showa.

Mags

Hi ,

Answer your question:

If you use 10 caps of 1000uf of 10v in series you will need to divide the capacitance for the number of caps.
1000uf /10 =100uf

To operate to high voltage you say that need to have more caps why ? Have you some special reason ?

thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on May 29, 2015, 07:54:51 AM

Quote from: padova on May 29, 2015, 04:32:23 AM
Hi nelsonrochaa

Yes, sometimes people can't see what is in front of theirs eyes or noses :) That is the world as is.

As always , nice interesting videos from you. Could we ask for the schematic, very interesting oscillator.

keep up the good work

regards

Hi Padova ,
Yes sometimes people can't see what is in front of theirs eyes or noses :) because need to complicate the things.
In the past, people that make some important things dont have the same conditions that we have now and see how great are their discoveries.

for the moment i cant share my circuits for work reasons and i have no intention of sharing details of my work for now,
my donations account is always empty, my channel and my videos with dislikes . lol
Do you think I have any reason to want share the thousands of hours I lost? sorry is not for you .

But in not claim anything too , i just try to explain that "energy amplification" is only possible to obtain if the circuit interact with the "ambient" , because the energy are in everywhere, we need to think with this point. Capacitors are a electrostatic "container" .
The capacitor can be charged without depleting the source using other phenomena . The circuit is only a "pump". :)
If you have 5 units energy in battery we can output more than 5 units even if the circuit presents no loss ! But this 5 units of power in battery can load the "pump" circuit to interact with the ambient . The important is the methods of conversion of energy in effective power , because energy is everywhere .

This type of oscillator are not new , a put a video of first demo at may of 2014 in my youtube channel and what you think that happens ? I cant ear anymore that i hide batteries or other type of source. :)
why people are so levian most of the time when can explain a thing ?
People need work with observation not only based in formulated laws. The time show that laws can change.
What i try to say is that people need no think by own head .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmlpV1MWm40

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: padova on May 29, 2015, 08:20:05 AM

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on May 29, 2015, 07:54:51 AM
Hi Padova ,
Yes sometimes people can't see what is in front of theirs eyes or noses :) because need to complicate the things.
In the past, people that make some important things dont have the same conditions that we have now and see how great are their discoveries.

for the moment i cant share my circuits for work reasons and i have no intention of sharing details of my work for now,
my donations account is always empty, my channel and my videos with dislikes . lol
Do you think I have any reason to want share the thousands of hours I lost? sorry is not for you .

But in not claim anything too , i just try to explain that "energy amplification" is only possible to obtain if the circuit interact with the "ambient" , because the energy are in everywhere, we need to think with this point. Capacitors are a electrostatic "container" .
The capacitor can be charged without depleting the source using other phenomena . The circuit is only a "pump". :)
If you have 5 units energy in battery we can output more than 5 units even if the circuit presents no loss ! But this 5 units of power in battery can load the "pump" circuit to interact with the ambient . The important is the methods of conversion of energy in effective power , because energy is everywhere .

This type of oscillator are not new , a put a video of first demo at may of 2014 in my youtube channel and what you think that happens ? I cant ear anymore that i hide batteries or other type of source. :)
why people are so levian most of the time when can explain a thing ?
People need work with observation not only based in formulated laws. The time show that laws can change.
What i try to say is that people need no think by own head .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmlpV1MWm40

Ok, that has to be respected, about someones work. I watched videos more carefully , just can't see
how you connect a Transformer in exciter circuit, and another coil. Anyway, I was just curious , also
watching some presentations, one can get his own ideas :)
I'm working on some my things, and it takes time to be finished, although not so complicated, just need work.

thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on May 29, 2015, 08:43:58 AM

Quote from: padova on May 29, 2015, 08:20:05 AM
Ok, that has to be respected, about someones work. I watched videos more carefully , just can't see
how you connect a Transformer in exciter circuit, and another coil. Anyway, I was just curious , also
watching some presentations, one can get his own ideas :)
I'm working on some my things, and it takes time to be finished, although not so complicated, just need work.

thanks

Padova ,

Thanks for understand the situation ,
about you thinking that is complicated is not, the circuit work similar like a joule thief . the problem is find the right values to circuit "swing" in harmony and achieve resonance . I see people make heavy coils but for what ?
If don't understand how to tune with a smaller coils .... If you pay attention in the scope you can see that wave are not deformed , and look to the values RMS and AVG . Just a single value modification in the tank circuit will modify the values of oscillation and the output values . Need to have harmony in the values of all components. :) For that need to test with experimentation , or rule bye the maths expressions to find the correct values .

Good luck for your tests

In this circuit that i show in my last video only use a npn transistor and couple of caps diodes and coils nothing more .
The circuit in the video is only a small demo for study all the aspects. We need to start by the floor not by the roof :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on May 29, 2015, 11:42:39 AM

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on May 29, 2015, 06:41:36 AM
Hi ,

Answer your question:

If you use 10 caps of 1000uf of 10v in series you will need to divide the capacitance for the number of caps.
1000uf /10 =100uf

To operate to high voltage you say that need to have more caps why ? Have you some special reason ?

thanks

Yes, that's the special case for all caps of the same value. But in general, capacitors in series use the same formula as resistors in parallel, that is

C_final = 1/(1/C₁ + 1/C₂ + ... + 1/C_n)

The voltage handling simply adds up the voltage ratings of all the individual caps.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 29, 2015, 12:50:57 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 29, 2015, 11:42:39 AM
Yes, that's the special case for all caps of the same value. But in general, capacitors in series use the same formula as resistors in parallel, that is

C_final = 1/(1/C₁ + 1/C₂ + ... + 1/C_n)

The voltage handling simply adds up the voltage ratings of all the individual caps.

Here is where Im kinda having issues with this.

By definition 2 plates, 1 mile square each, 1 inch apart, at 1v is 1 farad.. Why the need for the 1v in that definition? ;) At 2v is the capacitance greater? well it should be being that the 1 sq mile cap is holding more energy than the previous definition.

I know batts and caps are not the same really, but lets say I have 2 electric bikes. 1 is 12v and 1 is 48v. On the 12v bike I have 4 12ah sla batts in parallel which is rated at about 1kw. The 48v system has the 4 batts in series, which is also about 1kw. So whether I charge the 4 batts in parallel or charge them in series at 48v, their capacity total is the same. Now, say we were to try and charge the 4 batts in series with 12v, as compared to charging the 4 batts in parallel with 12v, we have a big problem getting the 4 series batts to have as much stored energy as the ones in parallel.

In a simple circuit, say there is 5v across a 10uf 10vcap. Now if we wanted to change that cap to 5uf by taking 2 of those 10uf 10v caps and put them in series, we would only have 2.5v across each cap. So now we have less energy stored in each of those caps due to the series condition and only 5v across the whole. Mostly we never see caps in series in common circuitry. but the capacitance division is explained to us this way, never in a way that shows a comparison of 1 10uf 10v cap with 5v across and 2 10uf 10v caps in series with 10v across the whole, which is 5v across each cap.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on May 29, 2015, 01:06:57 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on May 29, 2015, 12:50:57 PM

...
By definition 2 plates, 1 mile square each, 1 inch apart, at 1v is 1 farad.. Why the need for the 1v in that definition? ;) At 2v is the capacitance greater? well it should be being that the 1 sq mile cap is holding more energy than the previous definition.

...

Hi Mags,

I understand as follows: for a plate capacitor the capacitance is (Eps*A)/d and if you connect such plate caps in series, then you simply increase d (distance between the plates) so the result is a decreased value capacitor. Voltage is not involved in this explanation.

Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on May 29, 2015, 02:28:51 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on May 29, 2015, 12:50:57 PM
Here is where Im kinda having issues with this.

By definition 2 plates, 1 mile square each, 1 inch apart, at 1v is 1 farad.. Why the need for the 1v in that definition? ;) At 2v is the capacitance greater? well it should be being that the 1 sq mile cap is holding more energy than the previous definition.

I know batts and caps are not the same really, but lets say I have 2 electric bikes. 1 is 12v and 1 is 48v. On the 12v bike I have 4 12ah sla batts in parallel which is rated at about 1kw. The 48v system has the 4 batts in series, which is also about 1kw. So whether I charge the 4 batts in parallel or charge them in series at 48v, their capacity total is the same. Now, say we were to try and charge the 4 batts in series with 12v, as compared to charging the 4 batts in parallel with 12v, we have a big problem getting the 4 series batts to have as much stored energy as the ones in parallel.

In a simple circuit, say there is 5v across a 10uf 10vcap. Now if we wanted to change that cap to 5uf by taking 2 of those 10uf 10v caps and put them in series, we would only have 2.5v across each cap. So now we have less energy stored in each of those caps due to the series condition and only 5v across the whole. Mostly we never see caps in series in common circuitry. but the capacitance division is explained to us this way, never in a way that shows a comparison of 1 10uf 10v cap with 5v across and 2 10uf 10v caps in series with 10v across the whole, which is 5v across each cap.

Mags

Hi Magluvin ,
i Think i understand what you try explain but are not things comparable . The battery convert or storage by a chemical way , the capacitors storage electrostatic charges so i think is not comparable .
About the 4 batteries in parallel of 12a 12v you only have approximate 500Watt without considering other factors.
Now , are you talk about about Ah or effective power discharge drive by special C factor discharge battery ?
Are things very different because the capacity is not equal to the power discharge in that circumstances.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on May 29, 2015, 05:27:14 PM

Magluvin

Good path , good thinking. The essence is that small capacity we can charge quickly with high voltage. Then make a switch like you wish and use another free feature ;-)
I wouldn't use that, too much hassle but in reality it will work just fine if you are good in making complex switch.
Benitez patent I can recall here . Let the power be with you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 30, 2015, 06:56:42 AM

Quote from: idegen on May 29, 2015, 06:41:58 PM
Basic studies ought to know.
Before you want to build the impossible.
It's hard on your head?
not have a energy amplifier !!!
It's a stupid theory!
Waste of time!

Sorry...it the truth

The power from electric industry is actually a free energy, the only thing why its not free because they are controlling it and making you to pay.
The style they are using is that they are depending on other free nature energy to produce electricity.

therefore it is not impossible, because its just depends on method or style or design or technique you are going to use on how to produce it.

and that's the big troath! >:( :D :o

well, amplification is just a matter of coils and capacitors, BUT! without control its useless ;) 8)
like for example an avalantz, it is a big energy but its useless.
but if you can always makes an avalantz and can get enough energy to use in that energy then that's amazing. ;) 8)

every time is not waste cause we can get experience to that. every time is learning even it is wasted. :)

just do it. even fail or success ;) , i believe you will try another way or find another way. right? ;)
cause we learn from our mistake right?.
Now if you are always doing your mistake then something is wrong with you, you need to reconfigure. ;D

a matter of testing, looking, remembering, writing, discovering, backtracking, a little testing to yourself. will make you different thing from your previous you. 8) :o

no matter how it will take, you have to try it. ;)
always remember, be careful ok bro? ;) :)

Tesla done to produce easily into millions of horse power in almost instantly. see its not impossible. 8) a matter of guts will do it everyone. :D

have you try tieng your hands with a big rubber bands in at least 20 sec and try to push your blood up before the rubber bands ?, when you remove the rubber bands, you will feel unexplainable feeling as your blood moving in your nerve toward your hand. see, just moving there is something happening in the tension you've made. 8)

and what is the meaning of that? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ?
it means we can do something or we can activate lot of things just by the movements of the electrons in the wire. 8) :P
and there are lots of electrons in the wire, believe me. right? :D :o

well, americium 241 can help. as moray says ion is the secret. right?
and very much available in the market. smoke alarm. 8) ;) ;D
beware of radiation! ;D

otuts ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on May 31, 2015, 12:52:03 PM

Hi Teets
Interesting comment about the Americium. Not absolutely necessary, but as an ionizing agent, I think it would help with the antenna portion. Then the rest is about collection, step up, step down and storage. But this is only one way, as I see it.
Hope you are well.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: padova on May 31, 2015, 02:25:30 PM

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on May 29, 2015, 08:43:58 AM
...... We need to start by the floor not by the roof :)

Exactly so dear friend, when we build the house we must start from the ground, not other way around.

Tesla said something like that. You can go from small to very large but you can't go from Very large to much larger.
Use tiny to get big.

Thanks again for your inspiring presentations. I hope your donators won't forget your work.

regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on May 31, 2015, 04:28:22 PM

Quote from: padova on May 31, 2015, 02:25:30 PM
Exactly so dear friend, when we build the house we must start from the ground, not other way around.

Tesla said something like that. You can go from small to very large but you can't go from Very large to much larger.
Use tiny to get big.

Thanks again for your inspiring presentations. I hope your donators won't forget your work.

regards

Thanks for the compliment.
Yes it is very important to start things with small and simple things , .
I know that my work is sometimes criticized on the grounds that I did not explain precisely that show, but people can not to forget that the "little" is that I share something, and yet it is for nothing just to that people can at least stop to inquire about certain phenomena in this area.
I do not usually receive donations only received two so far , and to do all this stuff and it takes €.
For this reason it will not be unreasonable to say that maybe I should not share face some less constructive criticism made by some people.
However I share.

Thanks again for greetings

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on May 31, 2015, 04:51:46 PM

what are the 2th and 3rd coils from the Wardenclyffe Tower ? :)
An amplifier, multiplier, resonator ? ;)
How are they connected?
Can tell me? ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on May 31, 2015, 05:12:11 PM

Quote from: idegen on May 30, 2015, 08:37:20 PM

It is not possible to extract more than is required in the formulation.

As a newbie, i think what is needed is the flowing, not extract energy from the source...for sure we will have some losses :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on May 31, 2015, 05:52:09 PM

Quote from: zdiblo on May 31, 2015, 05:12:11 PM
As a newbie, i think what is needed is the flowing, not extract energy from the source...for sure we will have some losses :)

Yes ! Thats right ! not extract power from the source but in the ambient !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on May 31, 2015, 07:57:43 PM

Quote from: idegen on May 31, 2015, 06:24:15 PM
Energy sources minus the losses can not be fed back to the source!
More energy can be taken out to be fed to the source! (must be inserted more)
Goats can dine and cabbage are maintained? Hmmm ...
No such thing!
Babies faith.(just say :)
Is that clear? :)
:)

Hi Idegen , i respect what you say , but to achieve some type of "free energy" like people want , need to improve the actual system, Improve efficiency !
so i say the house is start made by the floor not by the ground.
like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ8TX0bPCL8
or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY3Mr2pAErw
For me is the most important!
Have so many to understand , and now in our time is more easy learn and research like we do we have all the tools !.
We only need to have open mind !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on May 31, 2015, 09:40:34 PM

Maybe someone has some advice.

We are always looking for an electron source besides the battery but is it really going to help,
say we take a hypothetical circuit like the boost converter and run it to earth, using earth as an electron source, we are still simply running electrons into the pos side of the battery equalizing the charge on the battery, how can this ever be overunity.

So how is americium 241 going to make any difference.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 31, 2015, 10:15:48 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on May 31, 2015, 12:52:03 PM
Hi Teets
Interesting comment about the Americium. Not absolutely necessary, but as an ionizing agent, I think it would help with the antenna portion. Then the rest is about collection, step up, step down and storage. But this is only one way, as I see it.
Hope you are well.
Bob

Yes, you are correct. ;)
actually we can also use it in a simple circuit scheme, just make a spot for it to be use as a simple current source. 8)

and i'm currently very well buddy, thank you, i have currently beaten my asthma, glory to Jesus :) ;)

God bless you :)

mr. T - 2 ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on June 01, 2015, 02:10:43 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 31, 2015, 10:15:48 PM

Yes, you are correct. ;)
actually we can also use it in a simple circuit scheme, just make a spot for it to be use as a simple current source. 8)

and i'm currently very well buddy, thank you, i have currently beaten my asthma, glory to Jesus :) ;)

God bless you :)

mr. T - 2 ;D

In other words, we need high voltage and current source?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on June 01, 2015, 06:25:51 PM

Quote from: idegen on June 01, 2015, 05:22:23 PM
Nelsonrochaa!
I respect what you're doing
It is important for energy-efficient equipment development.
It's a good goal !!
But it is impossible to go over 100%.
who says he's lying.

Hi , idegen,
Energy is not destroyed is transformed , and energy is abundant. power is another thing.
What you maybe try to say is in the actual model of working of electricity, is impossible achieve even the COP1 because the power is dissipated or "lost" in another form of energy in load. Yes its right ! you can not put 1 unit of energy and output 5 of energy.
But you can input 1 unity of energy and output 2 units of power or even more . It will depend how how you convert the energy in power .
We have lots of commercial ways of convert energy in power , like solar panels, dynamos , batteries and so on , and you will agree with me that there are Converters more effective than others. price vs power production.
I'm not here trying to convince anyone of anything.
Current laws were created by the work and effort over the years, and can not be neglected.
We can not jeopardize people's knowledge and his work, however many of these rules prevail from the time it was formulated, and agree with me that will be safe to say that over the years some of these rules have been revised due to new discoveries .
It is also important to note that science is evolutionary, and "barriers" and doubt during this search process knowledge is supposed to exist.
I understand that the logical it may seem illogical at times, but we must not therefore to stop questioning us when something is atypical.
What I see most often are not critical, but certainties almost insurmountable for people who look like walking encyclopedias.
You think that helps most visitors and curious that research in this area? Or is this just for an elite minority?
When people think they already know everything and has nothing more to learn, they are in a bad way ......

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 01, 2015, 06:45:12 PM

By transmutation from cristalin to amorph metal ?
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=3601309A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19870723&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

Catching the energy from Valenz-electrons as thermo(phonon)-/photo(n)-electric converter do ?

wamr
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on June 01, 2015, 07:03:19 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 01, 2015, 06:45:12 PM
By transmutation from cristalin to amorph metal ?
Catching the energy from Valenz-electrons as thermo(phonon)-/photo(n)-electric converter do ?

wamr
OCWL

Hi , LancaIV

Well seems good theme to discuss , but clearly is not a subject to everyone and you now that ;)
But i now what you try "scratch" . Yes the ionic process is not considered in actual rules when we talk in electricity , only electrons lol Valenz-electrons as thermo(phonon)-/photo(n)-electric = "free" induction

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 01, 2015, 09:08:00 PM

Mister Nelson,I do not "now" but I think that I "know" (Knowledge) ::) something
(Pardon for the correction,especially frome somebody who is not an englishman,saxonic/german is my fatherlanguage,portuguese my motherlanguage and myself-language normally french/arabic,unused )

There is not the search for an energy amplification(= material enrichment by weight ) nor power amplification but the search for a pressure source normally based by the so called Lorentz force !
Einsteins and Teslas work are energy decay related (down to the entrophy stadium).

e=mc² is the decay formulation based by the transitition from M1 to M2 with the result m

There is the existance from light pressure/force ~ionic force=wind .

We are working with "time tools",each Hertzian oscillation=2 pulses (EMP,this nuclear pulse also divided),this has to be calculated in the nm-space by transformation step-up or step-down
Hz/KHz/MHz/THz-modulation and absorber/receiver/emissor material.

Converter as transformators are today mostly the trans(res)istors,
beside the kind of photoelectric transistor also called solar or thermionic cells
now magnetic-transistors ,especially equipped with superconductive magnets ~ MEG.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 02, 2015, 05:32:53 AM

it doesn't matter power or energy ! if there is external energy or external force field and it is used properly then energy or power is multiplied - no difference like Don Smith said - it's all the same except various definitions created
at least however if you look at power there is no law of conservation of power , so you can do whatever you wish to

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on June 02, 2015, 06:44:19 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 01, 2015, 09:08:00 PM
Mister Nelson,I do not "now" but I think that I "know" (Knowledge) ::) something
(Pardon for the correction,especially frome somebody who is not an englishman,saxonic/german is my fatherlanguage,portuguese my motherlanguage and myself-language normally french/arabic,unused )

There is not the search for an energy amplification(= material enrichment by weight ) nor power amplification but the search for a pressure source normally based by the so called Lorentz force !
Einsteins and Teslas work are energy decay related (down to the entrophy stadium).

e=mc² is the decay formulation based by the transitition from M1 to M2 with the result m

There is the existance from light pressure/force ~ionic force=wind .

We are working with "time tools",each Hertzian oscillation=2 pulses (EMP,this nuclear pulse also divided),this has to be calculated in the nm-space by transformation step-up or step-down
Hz/KHz/MHz/THz-modulation and absorber/receiver/emissor material.

Converter as transformators are today mostly the trans(res)istors,
beside the kind of photoelectric transistor also called solar or thermionic cells
now magnetic-transistors ,especially equipped with superconductive magnets ~ MEG.

Hi , i did not refer to you ! I just say this is a difficult theme for discuss with the most people in forum because their complexity even for me, but its interesting .
About the English , not worry my english such :) , im Portuguese too i will understand.

Free photon can carry light and electromagnetic radiation .
If you have many photons but out of sync, and where one of them has a positive some other will be negative, and they cancel out.
Assuming it were valid, If you are shooting one by one photon, then you will register a negative current.
the nature of this current is reactive ?
I'm not the right person to talk about this subject :)
But interesting approach :)

Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 02, 2015, 07:09:30 AM

Synthizising the natural partly universal process in an artificial manner !?

How fast is an atomic spin ? RPM 8)
From which viewpoint ? Core/Nucleus or outside ?

A "solar" commercial mono-cristalin cell from the 80' transformed +/- 6%
from incident unfocussed natural light energy per sqm ! bandgap !
Right ?

Heat wave light is mostly in the near IR-range !
This is an unvisible (for humans) radiation !

Which temperature( heat= Brownian movement/fluctuation/oszillation effect)
has this light ?
http://www.astrofoil.net/ (http://www.astrofoil.net/)
http://www.astrofoil.net/astrofoil.insulation.r-values.html (http://www.astrofoil.net/astrofoil.insulation.r-values.html)

Citation: " All objects emit ? ? ? by an object ." an actio/reactio-process description

basic search: the collider principle

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on June 02, 2015, 07:22:12 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 02, 2015, 07:09:30 AM
Synthizising the natural partly universal process in an artificial manner !?

How fast is an atomic spin ? RPM 8)
From which viewpoint ? Core/Nucleus or outside ?

A "solar" commercial mono-cristalin cell from the 80' transformed +/- 6%
from incident unfocussed natural light energy per sqm ! bandgap !
Right ?

Heat wave light is mostly in the near IR-range !
This is an unvisible (for humans) radiation !

Which temperature( heat= Brownian movement/fluctuation/oszillation effect)
has this light ?
http://www.astrofoil.net/ (http://www.astrofoil.net/)
http://www.astrofoil.net/astrofoil.insulation.r-values.html (http://www.astrofoil.net/astrofoil.insulation.r-values.html)

Citation: " All objects emit .......

Thanks for the information .
Do you think there is any relationship to Kapanadze has not authorized filming their circuit with an IR camera?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 02, 2015, 07:33:40 AM

I can not tell you anything about the Kapanadze invention cause I did not follow his development !

But what I think is that this kind of converter will be the common energy capture process

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A)

but then as printable Nano-dot ink. Nano-transistors -array

40 years before:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4004210A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19770118&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4004210A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19770118&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

The linewidth of the conductors for the module circuits using electron beam microfabrication may typically be of the order of 10@-@4 to 10@-@6 cm. Micro circuit manufacturing techniques may be used in the fabrication of the modules which can range in size according to the power output requirements. The maximum power requirements can be achieved using module size larger than the physical limit on circuit miniaturization given in a paper by R. W. Keyes in the May 1975 issue of the Proceedings of the IEEE (pp. 740-767). In this paper, the applicable limit on circuit miniaturization is the electromigration damage to conductors and this limit allows conductors carrying the maximum current requirements of this device to be smaller than 10@-@6 cm in diameter. Using larger conductors and increasing the area of modules 7 and 8 in the plane of layers 1 and 3 of FIGS. 1a and 2 up to 10@-@6 square centimeters gives a power output capability of the layers 1 and 3 of the order of 10 KW per square meter in the plane of layers 1 and 3 in FIGS. 1a and 2.

A review of microcircuit manufacturing techniques is given in a paper by H. I. Smith in the October 1974 issue of the Proceedings of the IEEE (pp. 1361-1388), and also in a paper by A. N. Broers and R. H. Dennard in Semiconductor Silicon 1973 (pp. 830-841). Other techniques in addition to electron beam microfabrication are feasible for the microfabrication of the circuits of this invention. Among these techniques, X-ray lithography using sensitive polymers as electron resist material may be utilized for simplicity and low cost. The manufacture of micro circuit components for the instant invention can be accomplished using the micro circuit technology described by H. Sobel in the August 1971 issue of the Proceedings of the IEEE (pp. 1200-1211) and by M. Coulton in the October 1971 issue of the Proceedings of the IEEE. Diodes 9, 12, and 24 may typically be classical Schottky barrier diodes or quantum or tunnel diodes. The Schottky diodes may be of the type described by Fetterman et al in Applied Physics Letters, Jan. 15, 1974, page 70. The tunnel diodes may be of the type described by Twu et al in Applied Physics Letters, Nov. 15, 1974 or by Javan in the IEEE Spectrum, October, 1971, page 91. For the rectifying diodes 12 and 24, increasing the nonlinearity increases the efficiency of the device. As shown in the paper by J. C. Yater in the October 1974 issue of the Physical Review A (pp. 1361-1369), the non-linearity obtainable from classical diodes enables the Carnot cycle efficiencies to be obtained. For quantum effect or tunnel diodes the degree of non-linearity of tunnel diodes can be different from that of classical diodes. It can be shown using a similar method of analysis to that given in the above listed paper in the Physical Review by J. C. Yater that the efficiency of rectification is increased using tunnel diodes as the heated diodes 9 when the non-linearity is less than that for classical diodes and as the cooled diodes 12 and 24 when the non-linearity is larger than that of the classical diodes.

"Target",a collider expression:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20080828&CC=WO&NR=2008103987A2&KC=A2

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on June 02, 2015, 07:44:45 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 02, 2015, 07:33:40 AM
I can not tell you anything about the Kapanadze invention cause I did not follow his development !

But what I think is that this kind of converter will be the common energy capture process

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A)

but then as printable Nano-dot ink. Nano-transistors -array

40 years before:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4004210A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19770118&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

I see that effect with some junction diodes, it produce emf by only capture the heat or the light.
I think John Hutchison talk about this subject. Not work in all diodes.

Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 02, 2015, 07:50:32 AM

How fast is the THz-movement ,Senhor Rocha ? Do you know Patrick Pinheiro Nan-/Rectenna work ?
Femto-sec diod converter is his last solution barrier !
For the decelerating from THz to grid fequency !

For what are "Di-oden" used ?
Also limiting inrush current !

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=ken&IN=kazumi+masaki&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=ken&IN=kazumi+masaki&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)

But when do we want pulsed inrush current ?'
Dirac surges !

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19920714&CC=US&NR=5130608A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19920714&CC=US&NR=5130608A&KC=A)
also citing documents : NICO
(look also for Kanarev: applied Pulse Power description ,the maths )

For power savings of light energy consumer but also motors !

And as focus : up to 20000x sun look for Roland Winston, Universitas of California

Parabol-concav/convex-energy receiver and converter technology

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on June 02, 2015, 08:06:54 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 02, 2015, 07:50:32 AM
How fast is the THz-movement ,Senhor Rocha ? Do you know Patrick Pinheiro Nan-/Rectenna work ?
Femto-sec diod converter is his last solution barrier !

LancaIV
I think the thz -movement occurs on 100 GHz to 10 THz.
you ask me things that i'm far away to my practical knowledge :) i'm a simple researcher :) and i dont have resources to made testes in that "level".
I do not know the work of Patrick Pinheiro, but this has noted on my list to be able to investigate more about him and his work.
I've done some tests with interesting results with this technology, but still I was able to go deeper. but certainly is a good theme to be considered .

I appreciate very much that information.

Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 02, 2015, 08:17:01 AM

This is all practical knowledge,Senhor Rocha,
energy to matter and matter to energy understanding

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931118&CC=DE&NR=4215818A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931118&CC=DE&NR=4215818A1&KC=A1)

artificial :
"fiat lux"
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=3706385A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19880908&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

Boa sorte e adeus
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on June 02, 2015, 08:23:03 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 02, 2015, 08:17:01 AM
This is all practical knowledge,Senhor Rocha,
energy to matter and matter to energy understanding

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931118&CC=DE&NR=4215818A1&KC=A1

I see you are a "advanced" researcher, is good to know that people with you knowledgment share this type of information , even difficulty to be understanded to the most people in general. Did you research something in particular ?
Is not usual find people portuguese work in these themes .

Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 02, 2015, 08:36:21 AM

I am "Deutscher" , not Portuguese ,but this does not for me any matter ;)
living in Portugal.
It is also not usual that the father has been Hannover/German ,the mother Beja/Portuguesa and I
Casablanca/M-a/o-rocco(ex-romanic Mauretania) son. ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on June 02, 2015, 08:47:00 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 02, 2015, 08:36:21 AM
I am "Deutscher" , not Portuguese ,but this does not for me any matter ;)
living in Portugal.
It is also not usual that the father has been Hannover/German ,the mother Beja/Portuguesa and I
Casablanca/M-a/o-rocco(ex-romanic Mauretania) son. ::)

:) You are Multicultural man :)
Seems you making things in "other level" i understand when you say that is not for you ! :)
I wish best luck for your work

Nelson Rocha

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 02, 2015, 09:36:36 AM

Multi-Kulti 8) probably/talvez !

The last several years I in-/formed myself about the "ENERGY DIMINUATION" possibilities,
cause the search for "ENERGY AMPLIFICATION" has been the work theme between 1985-2005.
I discussed(by phone or written) with several scientists,some now R.I.P. like Dr.Keith Kenyon and Dr.Thomas Colby.

Using our intelligence and diminuate the primary energy consume (and KWp) level by 90% per household
we can easier find the way to live saver (and cheaper) by similar comfort like "living standart unchanged consumer" !

www.oeko-energie.de energy consume comparision,intelligent down to 3 KWh/day
www.mtbest.net down to 0,8 KWh/day electric energy consume

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on June 02, 2015, 09:50:05 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 02, 2015, 09:36:36 AM
Multi-Kulti 8) probably/talvez !

The last several years I in-/formed myself about the "ENERGY DIMINUATION" possibilities,
cause the search for "ENERGY AMPLIFICATION" has been the work theme between 1985-2005.
I discussed(by phone or written) with several scientists,some now R.I.P. like Dr.Keith Kenyon and Dr.Thomas Colby.

Using our intelligence and diminuate the primary energy consume (and KWp) level by 90% per household
we can easier find the way to live saver (and cheaper) by similar comfort like "living standart unchanged consumer" !

www.oeko-energie.de energy consume comparision,intelligent down to 3 KWh/day
www.mtbest.net down to 0,8 KWh/day electric energy consume

Is very good knowing that i'm deal with a person that work in this theme at so much time.
The practical work give to us another perspective of the real things not only the "shining" aspects.
Good luck

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 02, 2015, 11:33:38 AM

ENERGY EFFECT AMPLIFICATION

www.oeko-energie.de (http://www.oeko-energie.de) intelligent consume : 3 KWh/day
www.mtbest.net (http://www.mtbest.net) freezer solution : -0,8 KWh/ day
oeko-energie.de heatsystempump : -0,18 KWh/day
2 KWh/day

200W x 8 hours nightime charging + 100W x 8 hours daytime charging sufficient for the 2 KWh-netto
,after battery/charger losts, delivery

unchanged kitchen appliances
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changing kitchen appliances efficiency(minimum):

There are heatconductor with better heat-conductivity and motors with generative coils with let
save 30% more:
heatconductor
Unites/Ukrania HTM/ www.canlaser.com (http://www.canlaser.com) in geral: graphit conductor
http://www.al-bernstein-industries.com/germ.html (http://www.al-bernstein-industries.com/germ.html) Bai Wei Wu/China

electric motor
Larue Controller Shkondin-Motor www.arestov.de (http://www.arestov.de)
Zahardis/Nicolaev/Lam Dat-pulse powerCircuit www.greenmotor.com (http://www.greenmotor.com) Meta-C:capacitive winding

...

In the 2 KWh/day consume are excluded the energy for warm/hot-water,
room ambient conditioning
and where there is a need : Air-to-water machines for po(r)table water use.

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Let me do now a joke ;) :
1 W energy per hour consume for the hot-water
1 W energy per hour consume for the room warm ambient conditioning

It was only a "loud outed dream" :-[ :'( :P based by :
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=22&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931012&CC=US&NR=5252176A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=22&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931012&CC=US&NR=5252176A&KC=A) 8)
...

back to commercial reality ;D :

heat energy converter
www.energie.pt (http://www.energie.pt) + Ron Driver or Melvin Prueitts MECH
(this by Jacques Bernier invented thermodynamic panel for +/- 15 US$/ea. fob China/alibaba)

Kanarev(up to 3000%efficiency)/Imris Inductionheater(up to 1000% efficiency)

the air2water machine,modified dehumidifier: f.e. Sullivan Shaun (youtube video)
up tp 150 Liter per day

to save water and energy I would prefer this use:
Duche http://www.inpama.com/index.php?content=invention&id=816 (http://www.inpama.com/index.php?content=invention&id=816)
and a composting-toilett like here https://www.habitaflex.com/ (https://www.habitaflex.com/)

(instead that head-aching" habitaflex price I would prefer this south-african development in kind from an A-frame aluminium panel house for +/- 12000 US$/60sqm
http://www.powerprofile.co.za/ (http://www.powerprofile.co.za/) ,but outperforming the R-value by changing EPS to PUR,
this higher material price compensated through cheaper aluminium costs:
Aluminium production by 0,01US$/KWh electricity delivering mobile power plants and
less energy consuming production process,50-90% less energy N.A.S.A.-engineering
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6551476.html (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6551476.html) )

300US$-housing-modul
https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas (https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas)
the Essential core , core essential
https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas/12735 (https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas/12735)
price ?
compared
with www.geolitesystems.com (http://www.geolitesystems.com) "house-maker" and
(archive.org ? www.built-with-core.com (http://www.built-with-core.com) "mini-core" )

Which kind of driver for the water machine,the water-heating compressor
the room ambient conditioner :
do you know the "Swastika"-s,and the ccw/Left-hand and cw/Right hand orientation rules ?

Bionik-Professor Ingo Rechenberg/Berlin/FRG :
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19850314&CC=DE&NR=3330899A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19850314&CC=DE&NR=3330899A1&KC=A1)

Die Erfindung geht von der Erkenntnis aus, dass zwischen Elektrotechnik und Strömungstechnik eine Analogie besteht.

Diese besteht darin, dass ein elektromagnetisches Feld um einen beliebig gebogenen drahtförmigen Leiter und ein Strömungsfeld um einen beliebig geformten Wirbel faden durch das gleiche Gesetz beschrieben werden, das Biot-Savartsche Gesetz. Die Grössen "Zuwachs an magnetischer Feldstärke" und "Geschwindigkeitszunahme" entsprechen daher einander. Da sich magnetische Feldstärke dadurch konzentrieren lässt, indem man einen stromdurchflossenen Leiter zu einer Spule aufwickelt, kann man auch in der Strömungstechnik eine Geschwindigkeitszunahme erzielen, indem man einen Wirbelfaden zu einer Spule aufwickelt. Ordnet man mehrere sich gleichsinnig drehende Wibel so an, dass ihre Achsen auf einem Kreis liegen, werden sie sich infolge der gegenseitigen Induktion um den Mittelpunkt des Kreises drehen. Die Induktion wächst dabei mit der Zahl der Wirbel.Die Aufspulgeschwindigkeit steigt und die Wibelfäden nähern sich der Form von dicht an dic-ht liegenden Ringwirbeln. Das Geschwindigkeitsfeld, das diese Ringwirbel in ihrem Inneren induzieren, bildet den erstrebten Konzentrationseffekt.

this as kineto-mechanical principle/analogon:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=li+yng+tyan&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=li+yng+tyan&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)

(by this idea I do not like the friction losts :
surface treatment by www.bufo.ru (http://www.bufo.ru) tools
http://www.bufo.ru/index.php?lang=3 (http://www.bufo.ru/index.php?lang=3)
Regarding the wear resistance of friction pairs – a radical problem of the machines and mechanisms – as of today according to our information the matter is as follows. When using the NUFM technology we can guarantee the doubling of their operation life.
When using the NUFM + Geo technology – 4–5 times more.
When using the NUFM + Geo+ technology – 10 times more.

Okay ;) ,under this condition now it becomes a little more tolerable ;D

:o Nearunkaputtbar-Tech ::)

chemalloy coating ? and
"Motorkote"(TM) or similar as lubrificant probably a good solution)

Vortex/Turbo/Windhex : laminar to turbulent flow

from chaos to calm from calm to chaos

anti-/matter is as description only an orientation definition

the egenerator for this energetic nonplusultra household ?

It can be this but has not to be :
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140203&CC=DE&NR=202013011233U1&KC=U1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140203&CC=DE&NR=202013011233U1&KC=U1)
the coils from cheap material like :
http://contest.techbriefs.com/2011/entries/electronics/1983-sodium-electrical-wire (http://contest.techbriefs.com/2011/entries/electronics/1983-sodium-electrical-wire)

but I like it easier ;) NearZeroWatt-Society-Technology

Até logo
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on June 02, 2015, 03:31:30 PM

Some of the best ....

"Get a 4 handmade transformer then pulse one transformer, then at the secondary connect the three primary of the transformer in

parallel with  magnets ..."

" we can actually add a lot of transformer and use the flux of the magnet.

That is three birds in one stone or a lot of birds in one stone. "

" DID BEDINI SHOW YOU HOW REALLY HE MADE HIS
COIL? THINK. THE SECRET IS IN COILING OK! ITS A REACTION IN THE FIRST PRIMARY WHEN PULSED AND MAKE A BIG KICK. "

" sometimes funny but it make sense like Why there are male and female, why their organs exactly fit in every
ones organs. what a co-accidents "

"its like a worm gaining a little distance and after a while it gains a lot of distance, and the difference is TIME."
;) ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 03, 2015, 07:28:14 AM

There are actually five parameters about energy generating appliances and the personal decision :

-household consume Wp/Wh per day
-worldwide habitants household liquid income (without/with credit potential)
-patentright saved/open source invention costs
-local manufactoring possibility and local explorable materials and recyclingability
-KWh/KWp-installation-price

More or less all WIPO-archive inventions,saved or open source,
in compact manner would explore an egenerator ,
which could be produced in the emerging countries for +/- 100 US$-50US$/KW and by calculated amortization over 10 years and with 5% taxation p.a. allowing an on-demand KWh-generating price about less than 0,25 US$cents.

[100US$/ea. KW generator costs x 0,125 (the 10 years and five percent tax) ] = 12,5 US$/year
/ 8766 hours per year for each KWh = "less than 0,25US$ cents" ;)

Cheap - clean and grid-autonom - energy will change the worldwide market rules,
this is "not really" wellcomed by established multi-national companies,when they will loose more than winning,independant from "cheap energy project/-s"participation or not.

The estatal taxation system is "urbanization grid dependant citizen" oriented and would also become to change the citizen tax payment condition.
"Urban Nomad living style" is also not wellcomed,against "I.ndustrial C.onsumer N.orm S.tandart".

A very simple "minimalism" example about "open mind" and social class interests:

do it smiley simple :
http://inhabitat.com/polikatoikea-combines-small-space-living-with-urban-design-and-an-ikea-philosophy/ (http://inhabitat.com/polikatoikea-combines-small-space-living-with-urban-design-and-an-ikea-philosophy/)
1000 Euros/ea. (?)

alternatively: jovoto https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas/12491 (https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas/12491)

and the comment:
PanTau (https://www.jovoto.com/community/PanTau) Systems like Yours could be made for University Camps, but I have my doubt about the costs.

"PanTau" shall know that this here is a Munich students living space solution,
explored by their Profs.:

the expensive -credit leverage based-"academical" solution,University of Munich :
http://www.microcompacthome.at/?con=faq (http://www.microcompacthome.at/?con=faq)
38,000 Euros uninstalled/50,000 Euros fixed infrastructure installed

This 38000/1000 relationship makes also the difference about
the commercial/"social open source project" or individual DIY egenerator production costs.

The triple macroeconomical credit system price leverage factor will become neutralized by free
C.A.D.-ware archive and 3D-Printer production condition.

Without social overhead costs the G7-market products will become 90% cheaper.
Social overhead costs are the estatal and manufactory and administrating worker salaries.
Salary of 3D-Printer is energetical food in Watt-Units or Joule or Calorie.

Writing about 100 US$/KW eGenerator production costs I will now show the serious material and production concept conclusions :
who knows economy price politics and the discount rates/quotes
differs between "list-price"and fob factory price per palett/container,
also between readytouse condition or as kit discount,
production rights exclusivity or standart production

average industrial administration behaviour:
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1400%-"TM/utility modell/patent right saved" product price-list(without tax) maximum +
selling price discounted by gross-buying = 700%
+
selling price discounted by kit-condition = 350%
+
selling price discounted by open source standart (exclusivity-free) 100%

fob production viewpoint we have to differ price and value
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How many bucks do the people pay for new machines ? Scratch rest value ? Demolition
How many bucks do the people pay for new cars ? Scratch rest-value ? Demolition
How many bucks do the people pay for new buildings ? Scratch rest-value ? Demolition

Economically this formed material price-value relationship and monetary lost becomes amortisized :
book-value

And as powder/granular material new configuration and use
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This will become reality by the 3D-Print-technology and the Selfie-/REPRAP-process
3D Printer printing on-demand 3D Printer
or in perpetuum/non-stop.

The current 3D printing technology standart is sufficient developped(quality/quantity/precision)
for the global political change .

G.E. demonstration: 3D printed motor and generator parts,quasi ready to use
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The "B.O.S.(built-operate-sell)factory" price has to be physically discounted,each production-unit has to become 99% cheaper:

motor/generator production plant
before Roy Kessinger development : 250.000.000 US$ factory installation costs
with Roy Kessingers concept : 25.000.000 US$ factory instalation costs by same capacity
TARGET 3D-Factory : 2.500.000 US$ by same capacity
Modular 3D-Factory : 250.000 US$ by 1/10 capacity

fabric-in-a-container-box
relocateable
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For 2KWh electriciy consume delivered by batteries I calculate :

2 KWh capacity for the net energy delivery ea. KWh 150 US$ (3000 cycles)
+ 2 KWh capacity DOD-reserve and equipment losts ea. 150 US$
+ Batterycharger 150 US$
+ In-/Converter 150 US$
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2 KWh net energy per day delivery costs : 900 US$ + egenerator

Would I install a 2 KW egenerator and controle elecronically(fuzzy logical) the KWp,
the battery bank and related costs becomes obsolete.

The egenerator as cheapest modell is a "rotary transverter",
the KWh electricity costs will be less than the use of Nantennas which are
production costs estimated in the 10 US$/sqm range .

Development included winding :Ed Sines(US Navy)/META C Corporation/Wolfgang Hagedorn,
core material: Lund University,UQM,PAM(Helmut Schiller),Green Ray
magnets: METAMATERIAL(DARPA),Iron Nitrogen magnets,NASA plastic bonded powder
Magnet array: Sankar Pat(Ronbach array instead Hallbach)
transformer: Leupold(US Army "Magic Ring")

Commercial and technical approvement organisations like WIPO, international application requirement with translation costs 50000 US$ and technical approvement like TUEV for transformer,motor and generators up to 20 KW 25000 US$(TUEV Testlab in Budapest/Hungary) ,
this means that for each "egenerator/EMD-genset"
only +/- 1 US$ per unit will influence the price
if 75000 units will become produced.

Greater production numbers:
WIPO/TUEV 0,1 US$ ea./ 750000 units
WIPO/TUEV 0,01 US$ ea./ 7500000 units

FAZIT:
WIPO approval process and TUEV approval costs are related to total production -costs irrelevant.

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A 24 hour/365 days net-free economy
grid-net and social-net free

Free shareware economy and barter condition.
Not politicians change the political rules but the machines.

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on June 03, 2015, 04:06:18 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71vtcl-G4dw
Now just translate it in coils... ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 03, 2015, 05:56:40 PM

Resonant LCR circuit = electromagneto-dynamical circuit or e-pump cycle (analog Carnot TD cycle)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 06, 2015, 10:22:28 AM

Are we looking at what happens in a circuit the right way, I mean the conventional view is always pos flow and electron view is always neg flow.
Maybe its both depending on the circuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUeK7pHe0rI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUeK7pHe0rI)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on June 06, 2015, 05:47:20 PM

Can we do something with this??? ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 06, 2015, 06:11:36 PM

Inductionheating ?
Or is the core a metglas core which receives radiation and get it by the winding transformed ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 06, 2015, 06:38:39 PM

Quote from: zdiblo on June 06, 2015, 05:47:20 PM
Can we do something with this??? ;)

That is interesting, if the magnetic field is coiled around the core then the electric field is moving through the core.
Is the core heavy copper wire.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 06, 2015, 06:42:43 PM

Quote from: zdiblo on June 03, 2015, 04:06:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71vtcl-G4dw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71vtcl-G4dw)
Now just translate it in coils... ;)

This works the same way, the magnetic field around the wire is amplified this causes more current in the copper pipe.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 07, 2015, 04:37:58 AM

Quote from: idegen on June 06, 2015, 09:01:38 PM
Tito says

Ask him to be a savvy response.
You already know!
Junkie know
Tesla also know ...
Einstein knows ...
God knows the truth.
Wake up, people!
We speak, of the living and the dead legends, myths and dreams of the world?
What is causing this?

Because there is no single readily available proof of concept you can put on your desk and always look at if you loose hope

Title: Charge Separation
Post by: Dave45 on June 07, 2015, 07:47:34 AM

So what are we doing,

We are trying to get the magnetic field to return more energy when it collapses than it took to make it.

And if we look at it in a conventional view it cant be done because the size of the magnetic field is proportional to the applied current.

But what if its not about the size of the magnetic field what if its about charge separation and neutralization.

In other words lets say we build a magnetic field and in doing so charge the coil negative like a boost converter and when the magnetic field collapses it returns a pos charge (which it does).

The collapsing magnetic field has neutralized the coil, everything is back to a neutral state.

But what would happen if the coil could not be neutralized, what would happen if it stayed negatively charged.

Then could we get the collapsing magnetic field to return more than was applied.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on June 08, 2015, 04:20:33 PM

" you really need three coils but the two are one and the secondary are included in the two and its power is the product of the two combine coils...."

Step in man... :)

Let's kick some ......coils??? or....... ;D ;D ;D

God bless ALL....I´m happy..... 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 08, 2015, 04:56:34 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkh7_Eyctw

How to separate 300,000 volts a mere inches apart ;)

so what would happen if you wound a coil around the barrier and pulsed it, with this kind of high tension.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 08, 2015, 05:03:05 PM

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=27&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19960215&CC=DE&NR=4428026A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=27&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19960215&CC=DE&NR=4428026A1&KC=A1)

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=28&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19960111&CC=DE&NR=4423351A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=28&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19960111&CC=DE&NR=4423351A1&KC=A1)

from 1928
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19291018&CC=FR&NR=667647A&KC=A (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19291018&CC=FR&NR=667647A&KC=A)

no coils ?
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=29&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941208&CC=DE&NR=4318270A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=29&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941208&CC=DE&NR=4318270A1&KC=A1)

3 coils rectenna also called magnetic field transistor
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=26&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990708&CC=DE&NR=19737047A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=26&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990708&CC=DE&NR=19737047A1&KC=A1)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 09, 2015, 07:52:06 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on June 08, 2015, 04:56:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkh7_Eyctw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkh7_Eyctw)

How to separate 300,000 volts a mere inches apart ;)

so what would happen if you wound a coil around the barrier and pulsed it, with this kind of high tension.

So is the air ionized on each side of the barrier

The barrier would also stop the ionized air from combining.

Notice the arc must go around the barrier, give it a path through the barrier.

A coil wound on the barrier

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: padova on June 09, 2015, 09:24:12 PM

Theory

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 10, 2015, 08:05:16 AM

In our search for free energy we look for anomalies,

This is one

Charge Separation

Theory, this is not theory this is in your face fact, you can see it working here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkh7_Eyctw

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 11, 2015, 02:58:28 AM

Quote from: idegen on June 10, 2015, 05:31:12 PM
In theory, the theory of what good?
I do not understand what's the point of this.
Publish?
The theory can be proved what I described above can be measured.
Anyone can repeat, can understand.
;)

Hopefully theory is in Clemente Figuera and Buforn patents.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on June 11, 2015, 03:13:17 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on June 10, 2015, 08:05:16 AM
In our search for free energy we look for anomalies,

This is one

Charge Separation

Theory, this is not theory this is in your face fact, you can see it working here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkh7_Eyctw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkh7_Eyctw)

You do realise that that "toroid barrier" is a disc of heavy clear insulating plastic, probably polycarbonate, with the edge protected by some plastic wire-sheath material, don't you? It's not a toroid at all.
If you look closely you can see the reflection of the white terminal standoffs in the surface of the clear plastic disc. There is no "anomaly" shown in that photograph or the video it came from, at all.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 11, 2015, 05:46:39 PM

After studying the vid, you may be right
Looks like i will have to test it ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on June 11, 2015, 06:06:53 PM

I stand corrected TK's right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZBhiJq4TL4

Ok where's the dunce cap I'll go stand in the corner ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 14, 2015, 08:25:01 PM

Here's a big tip to everyone.

if you want God to move in your life, always condition your self to hear gospel preaching.

CAUSE BY HEARING AND HEARING THE WORD OF GOD FAITH COMES. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 14, 2015, 08:38:12 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 14, 2015, 08:25:01 PM
Here's a big tip to everyone.

if you want God to move in your life, always condition your self to hear gospel preaching.

CAUSE BY HEARING AND HEARING THE WORD OF GOD FAITH COMES. :)

Or perhaps there is no God at all. When you die there is NOTHING.

What does that imply? You have to use your own brain, your own conscience, your own morals, and your own judgement to conduct yourself properly in this life and work in cooperation with your fellow human beings. You yourself have to assume responsibility for your own behaviour and you don't need a priest, or a rabbi, or an iman, or a priest from the Church of Pink Flamingoes to tell you want to do and how to act. You are responsible for yourself.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Spilled Fluids on June 15, 2015, 11:34:02 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 14, 2015, 08:25:01 PM
Here's a big tip to everyone.

if you want God to move in your life, always condition your self to hear gospel preaching.

CAUSE BY HEARING AND HEARING THE WORD OF GOD FAITH COMES. :)

Why on earth would anyone wish for faith...it is the most crippling disease in the universe!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ATOM1 on June 15, 2015, 06:17:53 PM

What it the point of energy ? Why do you want to generate it ? The strangeness is interesting but it will always be strange ,this theory that theory ect ect can you sit on an electron slow down time and go for a ride ??? That would be fun and wow you could finally see everything and slowly measure it ! Pushing and probing pulsing and the odd vanishing act is all kids toys ! The real challenge is to see what we all see and than we can all sing to the same tune. Having this secret idea or system method or some kind of alien zapper technology that drills into space and time could be rather useful if one like holes ahhahahahah

No no children ! The purpose of energy it to bring together other forms of energy that share in common enlightenment with may be a touch of inspiration to actually make something useful and server a job . The challenge is unity than over unity the problem is man and its humanity is so divided by its self that unity among humans is impossible !

When does an atom not share its electron ????? Or when does an electron refuse to bond its positive or its negative ? The answer is when they are in a universe where only they exist as singularity to themselves ... mmmmmmmm interesting the last time that happened the poor lonely electron got so frustrated it exploded into trillions and trillions and oh many more trillions of electrons !

But one must ask is it all but one electron dancing about over infinity in a quantum dance ??? I think so and to that I am not sure if I want to share my electron with you hahahahahahha give it back to me now hahahahahahahahahahah Do you not see that a flower is what created the bee and the mountain the valley the water the life where is that the mountain said I have mad a valley with a fresh spring that flows to a secret place only I know where it is hahahahah

Let go ! You can never own anything we only borrow the time in which the energy sits ! The universe does not want you to run off into the dark and sit alone with its electron hit it with a hammer and shout Ulrika I just made two out of one hahahahahahahahahahahahah

The universe is alive a great being try and wake it up with a loving kiss softly touch the grass and hug a tree that talk to the universe it can talk any language and truly awaits for you to communicate ... extend your body by merging it with this great being and you will find abundant all you could ever wish for.... This is the real free energy not a circuit box with a hidden secret in it as there are no secrets that you can hide ! Where is this dark place you wish to sit in and play with your box ??????????? It was once there before the beginning and sat there for 2.2 trillion years and finally the box opened.

There is no magic for magic is an elusion but there are miracles and non can be calculated or measured or they would be a miracle and that the joy and love of the great provider would be broken and its purpose placed back in the dark box left for all eternity .................

Now I claim ownership of this planet and all that live in and on and possible all that surrounds it but un like you I have decided to share it equally with every atom and particle. For the gift that was provided to me was all that is and nothing less, It is only right that I return this love with the same amount of respect and share all that has been given to me....

Money does not feed a starving baby only food can do that but if the food that you have has a price on it than the poor little baby will have to het a job and pay for the food that that was at the first instance provided for free ............................................................

Does the sun charge you a penny ?????????? How much do you pay for rain drops ???? Do you ancestors have to pay you for the life they gave to you ?????? By what terms do you have for the freedom of humanity and how much will it cost ????????

I tel you the truth and with it come a promise not a secret ! Chris is just a man and he feed 5000 people from a small basket of bread and fish ! Is that not free energy ???? It is interesting why no one bothered to ask him could they make such a basket ??????????????
Or when he walked on water one might of asked him how did you do that and can I do the same ....

There is no religion in the kingdom of love ! Only a man made desire to keep the basket shut and the water deep enough to drown in so he can purchase the souls of the living dead that is now the humanity that walks on the earth of this planet.......................................

Stand naked and walk down the street and shout I am a man made monkey and I live in a tree I am looking for bananas and nuts for a party in my tree ! HAHAHAHAHAHAH than bark at a dog and knock on everyone door and demand them to give you water accusing them that they have stolen it from the clouds or you will sit on there roof tops eating bananas ....hahahhahaahahhahahahahahahahahaha

The point being that we were all once monkeys eating bananas walking naked and living in the trees ! All white people were once black and there was a time before money until a greedy fat monkey stole all the bananas and cut down all the trees and all the monkeys had to do a runner or the lions would eat them ......... OOHH dear not funny hahahahahahah

It would of been much better that we had evolved with the continuity of sharing caring loving and a close detailed learning of the are of miracles than manipulations of sickening selfish demonic hate driven envy of everything that is different or the vamp uric blood sucking nature of evil men who want to play with a box that has weapons of total mass destruction in it ...

Oh no I wag war every second but my weapon is love ..... I demand your surrender ! Lay down your box and kiss the earth the trees the water the air and the sun than open your box for all to share and if its full of goodness love and joy than teach me how to make your box for I have a basket I wish to share.

lol be happy

ATOM1

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 15, 2015, 11:06:57 PM

Atom1:

I am going to boldly predict that after a few more weeks of your prodigious "performance art" posting output, that you will burn out. Then chances are you will disappear and we will never hear from you again.

MileHigh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2015, 08:03:17 AM

Quote from: Spilled Fluids on June 15, 2015, 11:34:02 AM
Why on earth would anyone wish for faith...it is the most crippling disease in the universe!

for those who are destined to hell, yes! it is a crippling disease.

and for those children of God it is the way of salvation! ;) :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2015, 08:05:57 AM

Quote from: MileHigh on June 14, 2015, 08:38:12 PM
Or perhaps there is no God at all. When you die there is NOTHING.

What does that imply? You have to use your own brain, your own conscience, your own morals, and your own judgement to conduct yourself properly in this life and work in cooperation with your fellow human beings. You yourself have to assume responsibility for your own behaviour and you don't need a priest, or a rabbi, or an iman, or a priest from the Church of Pink Flamingoes to tell you want to do and how to act. You are responsible for yourself.

How come you know that when you die there is nothing. what is your basis? :o

have you forgotten that there is something from nothing? ;D

why do you believe in magnetic field, air, wherein you can't see them. :o

you better watch out, you better not cry, you better not pouch i'm telling you why, Jesus Christ is coming to town very very soon. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Qwert on June 16, 2015, 01:29:07 PM

Jesus Christ is already in my town.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 16, 2015, 07:26:56 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 16, 2015, 08:05:57 AM

How come you know that when you die there is nothing. what is your basis? :o

you better watch out, you better not cry, you better not pouch i'm telling you why, Jesus Christ is coming to town very very soon. ;D

I used the word "perhaps" when I made my statement.

How come you know that when you die there is "something?" What is your basis? Because somebody told you so?

You better watch out, you better not cry, you better not pout I'm telling you why, Jesus Christ might be coming to your town very very soon and if he exists he knows that 90% of your postings are lies. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 17, 2015, 07:25:32 AM

Quote from: MileHigh on June 16, 2015, 07:26:56 PM
I used the word "perhaps" when I made my statement.

How come you know that when you die there is "something?" What is your basis? Because somebody told you so?

You better watch out, you better not cry, you better not pout I'm telling you why, Jesus Christ might be coming to your town very very soon and if he exists he knows that 90% of your postings are lies. 8)

No, that is a big doubt to you even you used the word perhaps. ;D
No, the BIBLE SAID it! :)
No, That is your conclusion. :D and your very wrong.

You know What a real genius is?, simply it listen. ;) [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 17, 2015, 07:31:38 AM

Quote from: Qwert on June 16, 2015, 01:29:07 PM
Jesus Christ is already in my town.

Wow, That's surely an anti Christ.[/size] ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 17, 2015, 10:12:35 AM

QuoteNo, That is your conclusion. and your very wrong.

Then show us your free energy systems! You have been talking about "true" free energy technology for years!

Oops! You can't? So your statement above must be another lie!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on June 17, 2015, 10:51:33 AM

@MH

Quote
Then show us your free energy systems! You have been talking about "true" free energy technology for years!

Oops! You can't? So your statement above must be another lie!

I'm not sure I understand your logic here ... are you saying that just because he cannot or will not prove it to you then it must be untrue and a lie?. I mean it seems a little strange because in this case everything in the universe not proven to you may be considered as untrue and a lie as well which is quite insane.
In fact any number of people could possibly have a free energy device we do not fully understand powering their house as we speak and your believing it has little or no bearing on whether it is actually true or not because you have no facts either way. In any case basing one's opinion on a complete lack of real facts is a poor argument in my opinion.

AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 22, 2015, 09:15:45 PM

Quote from: idegen on June 17, 2015, 03:42:08 PM
What is easier to prove?
Free energy existence?
Or the lack of it?
What is easier to prove?
The existence of God?
Or the lack of it?

That relates to the theme of Jesus?

The hydro electric plant is actually a free energy. businessman only controlling it for us to pay for it. :)

So what we are talking here is a little use of input but big output, so it can power up even itself, clear? ;)

now, The existence of God is proven already by JESUS itself.
Why do i know it?,
just common sense. His story was also written in non religious organization proving that He existed once in this Earth. 8)
etc. and Bla bla bla. thats how simple it is. :)
Now if you really want to experience Him then just read the BIBLE, oooops With humility first in your heart. and ask God What you want.

Bye hearing and hEARING THE word of God faith comes. :) ;)

God Loves you. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 22, 2015, 09:30:13 PM

ok! ok!

don't go much farther from a "piece of wire" ok?, its just a kick from a piece of wire ok. >:(

well, there are some technique using caps to make FE but that is the easy one promise. ;) :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 22, 2015, 09:38:07 PM

For the genius. 8)
if you are really a genius, you must can solve the Great puzzle of the BIBLE and that is my Big challenge to everyone. :)

Tip: humility and reading and reading and pray.

ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS:

GOD IS GOOD AND HE IS REALLY SOOOOOO GOOD, PROMISE. :) ;)

YOU KNOW WHY? ALL THINGS HE JUST WANT IS FOR YOURS SAKE. :)

OTITS

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 24, 2015, 10:31:39 PM

ohhhhhh i seeeeeee. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXDDZrYOuAE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXDDZrYOuAE)

i believe you bro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsbj7EN1Uzs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56IjrcsAtUE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77xr-OgizBg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 24, 2015, 11:11:48 PM

I see too.

https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=isis+atrocities

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 24, 2015, 11:18:15 PM

Quote from: MileHigh on June 24, 2015, 11:11:48 PM
I see too.

https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=isis+atrocities (https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=isis+atrocities)

no! they are not Christians ok! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 24, 2015, 11:24:47 PM

There is only one God, and Jesus Christ is the son of God.

There is only one God, and Muhammed is the final prophet of God.

Hmmmm.. they must be following the same God, but they are just following a different sales pitch to worship the same God.

https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=christian+atrocities

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 24, 2015, 11:27:21 PM

Quote from: MileHigh on June 24, 2015, 11:24:47 PM
There is only one God, and Jesus Christ is the son of God.

There is only one God, and Muhammed is the final prophet of God.

Hmmmm.. they must be following the same God, but they are just following a different sales pitch to worship the same God.

https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=christian+atrocities (https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=christian+atrocities)

No! you're wrong there is only one God but in this world there is also satan that makes isis and ATHEIST!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 24, 2015, 11:53:42 PM

Nope, it's exactly the same God but with a different sales pitch. Nobody has the exclusive rights to claim God for themselves, if he or she even exists.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 25, 2015, 12:03:09 AM

Quote from: MileHigh on June 24, 2015, 11:53:42 PM
Nope, it's exactly the same God but with a different sales pitch. Nobody has the exclusive rights to claim God for themselves, if he or she even exists.

no! if you are the one that follows what you want then you are god of your self, but if you follow Jesus then He is God in you even He is not existing in your eye.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 25, 2015, 12:09:33 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 25, 2015, 12:03:09 AM

no! if you are the one that follows what you want then you are god of your self, but if you follow Jesus then He is God in you even He is not existing in your eye.

I am not here to debate religion, but you are the one that raised the issue. I will also remind you that you are a compulsive liar because 90% of your postings are about supposed free energy systems that you have or you know about. I call your bluff and accuse you of being a compulsive liar. Do you go to church? You should discuss it with your priest.

Here is a final thought for you:

<<< Thirty Years' War (1618 – 1648)

The Thirty Years' War led to the Treaty of Westphalia, which is the single genesis for the modern state as we know it. But the Thirty Years' War is also known for being one of the bloodiest religious wars in Europe's history, when Catholics and Protestants turned their blades on one another and decimated a full 20-40% of Europe's population. There were witch hunts and mass burnings throughout Germany, and the period is generally regarded as the peak of European Witch Hunting, itself another popular Christian past time. About the same time, Catholics sacked the city of Magdeburg and slew about 30,000 Protestants; according to the poet Fredrich Shiller, "In a single church fifty women were found beheaded, and infants still sucking the breasts of their lifeless mothers." >>>

Sounds just like Isis.

Just be a good person, do not lie, regardless of the sales pitch.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 25, 2015, 12:25:32 AM

Quote from: MileHigh on June 25, 2015, 12:09:33 AM
I am not here to debate religion, but you are the one that raised the issue. I will also remind you that you are a compulsive liar because 90% of your postings are about supposed free energy systems that you have or you know about. I call your bluff and accuse you of being a compulsive liar. Do you go to church? You should discuss it with your priest.

Here is a final thought for you:

<<< Thirty Years' War (1618 – 1648)

The Thirty Years' War led to the Treaty of Westphalia, which is the single genesis for the modern state as we know it. But the Thirty Years' War is also known for being one of the bloodiest religious wars in Europe's history, when Catholics and Protestants turned their blades on one another and decimated a full 20-40% of Europe's population. There were witch hunts and mass burnings throughout Germany, and the period is generally regarded as the peak of European Witch Hunting, itself another popular Christian past time. About the same time, Catholics sacked the city of Magdeburg and slew about 30,000 Protestants; according to the poet Fredrich Shiller, "In a single church fifty women were found beheaded, and infants still sucking the breasts of their lifeless mothers." >>>

Sounds just like Isis.

Just be a good person, do not lie, regardless of the sales pitch.

No, i'm not a liar i have stated my reasons very long time ago. clear? >:(

Now, i don't care about those religious wars happened, cause it is surely made by the master deceptionist SATAN.

Now again, being a good person is becoming a very near into a christian world, but without Jesus in your heart, you cannot be a good person in very long time.
and without Jesus in your heart ,devils will take cover and make isis or atheist in your heart and mind and makes conflicts that even religious leader will deceive and make wars with their brothers. :)
and that is the truth. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 25, 2015, 12:41:37 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 25, 2015, 12:25:32 AM
Now again, being a good person is becoming a very near into a christian world, but without Jesus in your heart, you cannot be a good person in very long time.

<<< Hinduism has over 1 billion adherents worldwide (15% of world's population). Along with Christianity (31.5%), Islam (23.2%) and Buddhism (7.1%), Hinduism is one of the four major religions of the world by percentage of population. Most Hindus are found in Asian countries. >>>

Between Hinduism and Buddhism it looks like that totals about 1.5 billion people. They don't have Jesus in their heart and they would probably tell you that you have no right to say that they cannot be good people.

Just the fact that you state that you cannot be a good person without "Jesus in your heart" is offensive to me and probably offensive to the majority of the 1.5 billion Hindus and Buddhists.

You see, they decided to adopt a different sales pitch than you. It's like the difference between driving a Chevrolet and a Volkswagen.

So, one more time your character is in question and your moral compass seems to be lost. You need to discuss your character failings with your priest.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 25, 2015, 12:54:37 AM

Quote from: MileHigh on June 25, 2015, 12:41:37 AM
<<< Hinduism has over 1 billion adherents worldwide (15% of world's population). Along with Christianity (31.5%), Islam (23.2%) and Buddhism (7.1%), Hinduism is one of the four major religions of the world by percentage of population. Most Hindus are found in Asian countries. >>>

Between Hinduism and Buddhism it looks like that totals about 1.5 billion people. They don't have Jesus in their heart and they would probably tell you that you have no right to say that they cannot be good people.

Just the fact that you state that you cannot be a good person without "Jesus in your heart" is offensive to me and probably offensive to the majority of the 1.5 billion Hindus and Buddhists.

You see, they decided to adopt a different sales pitch than you. It's like the difference between driving a Chevrolet and a Volkswagen.

So, one more time your character is in question and your moral compass seems to be lost. You need to discuss your character failings with your priest.

Sorry to say but its true that you cannot be a good person if Jesus is not in you.

i don't actually know what compass you are using that i am seem to be lost.
i think you need some calibration to your compass if your using a compass regarding character and moral. :o [size=78%] [/size]
and i don't need to discuss to a priest. cause in fact i am convincing you into a more better attitude. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 25, 2015, 01:02:13 AM

bye for now. nice talking with you bro. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 25, 2015, 01:14:35 AM

Modern Catholic Terror:

20th Century Church Atrocities

Catholic extermination camps
Surpisingly few know that Nazi extermination camps in World War II were by no means the only ones in Europe at the time. In the years 1942-1943 also in Croatia existed numerous extermination camps, run by Catholic Ustasha under their dictator Ante Paveli, a practising Catholic and regular visitor to the then pope. There were even concentration camps exclusively for children!

In these camps - the most notorious was Jasenovac, headed by a Franciscan friar - orthodox-Christian serbians (and a substantial number of Jews) were murdered. Like the Nazis the Catholic Ustasha burned their victims in kilns, alive (the Nazis were decent enough to have their victims gassed first). But most of the victims were simply stabbed, slain or shot to death, the number of them being estimated between 300,000 and 600,000, in a rather tiny country. Many of the killers were Franciscan friars. The atrocities were appalling enough to induce bystanders of the Nazi "Sicherheitsdient der SS", watching, to complain about them to Hitler (who did not listen). The pope knew about these events and did nothing to prevent them. [MV]

Catholic terror in Vietnam
In 1954 Vietnamese freedom fighters - the Viet Minh - had finally defeated the French colonial government in North Vietnam, which by then had been supported by U.S. funds amounting to more than $2 billion. Although the victorious assured religious freedom to all (most non-buddhist Vietnamese were Catholics), due to huge anticommunist propaganda campaigns many Catholics fled to the South. With the help of Catholic lobbies in Washington and Cardinal Spellman, the Vatican's spokesman in U.S. politics, who later on would call the U.S. forces in Vietnam "Soldiers of Christ", a scheme was concocted to prevent democratic elections which could have brought the communist Viet Minh to power in the South as well, and the fanatic Catholic Ngo Dinh Diem was made president of South Vietnam. [MW16ff]

Diem saw to it that U.S. aid, food, technical and general assistance was given to Catholics alone, Buddhist individuals and villages were ignored or had to pay for the food aids which were given to Catholics for free. The only religious denomination to be supported was Roman Catholicism.

The Vietnamese McCarthyism turned even more vicious than its American counterpart. By 1956 Diem promulgated a presidential order which read:
"Individuals considered dangerous to the national defense and common security may be confined by executive order, to a concentration camp."

Supposedly to fight communism, thousands of buddhist protesters and monks were imprisoned in "detention camps." Out of protest dozens of buddhist teachers - male and female - and monks poured gasoline over themselves and burned themselves. (Note that Buddhists burned themselves: in comparison Christians tend to burn others). Meanwhile some of the prison camps, which in the meantime were filled with Protestant and even Catholic protesters as well, had turned into no-nonsense death camps. It is estimated that during this period of terror (1955-1960) at least 24,000 were wounded - mostly in street riots - 80,000 people were executed, 275,000 had been detained or tortured, and about 500,000 were sent to concentration or detention camps. [MW76-89].

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 25, 2015, 07:14:29 AM

$MH

You don't really understand do you? :(

It is not a group when God is judging us it is personal. what do i mean?

Personally I accepted Jesus Christ as my God and personal savior in my life. I am not a Catholic, I am a born again Christian, we do not engage in wars, we are peaceful people, unleash God will command us maybe.

if some catholics engage in killing people that means they are not true catholics, because real catholics don't kill people. did you get it?

and that means the devil is the one controlling to anyone that do the evil works.

i have explain enough for you, now if you still don't understand that, then your heart is like a stone.

God always look at the heart of a person personally. He knows your heart and thinking.

like what i have said awhile ago if Jesus is not in you then the demons take that place in you and do evil works even you are a christians.

remember this: Being a Christian is not just in lips but in heart.

God will not judge us or save us by GROUP OK! HE WILL SAVE US INDIVIDUALLY OR PERSONALLY.
if you will not accept Jesus as your God and personal saviour then your sorry. :)

You know what?, it is in humility where you can find God.
if you think you know a lot of things and hardened your heart, then you are not worthy to be son of God.
and that means you are not really an intelligent person. :)

GOD JUST WANT AN ACCEPTANCE FROM ANYONE OK!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 25, 2015, 07:56:34 AM

Tito:

I agree with a lot or what you are saying but with some qualifications.

I point to people that claim to follow Jesus that commit unspeakable atrocities and evil and you say that they are false and don't have Jesus in their heart.

So, the real issue is not "following Jesus" because many people that claim to follow Jesus are evil. The real issue is to be good, regardless of whether you follow Jesus or not.

Let's use the car analogy again:

You can drive a Chevrolet or a Volkswagen or a Fiat or a Ford, the choice of car you drive is irrelevant. The only real issue is that you be a good driver.

You can drive a Chevrolet and be a terrible driver.
You can drive a Volkswagen and be a terrible driver.
You can drive a Chevrolet and be a good driver.
You can drive a Volkswagen and be a good driver.

What you are saying is this, "If you want to be a good driver you must drive a Chevrolet. If you drive a Volkswagen it's impossible to be a good driver."

What I am saying to you is this:

1. You can drive any kind of car you want and still be a good driver. Do not listen to anyone that insists that you must drive one specific type of car to be a good driver. That is complete nonsense.

2. You don't even have to have a car and you can still be a good driver.

So, you absolutely do not have to "follow Jesus" to be a good person. That is absolute crap. The only issue is to he a good person, and if you choose to follow a religion, that is your personal choice and no one has the right to tell you that you are following the "wrong" religion.

Just be a good person, it's not rocket science.

You are making a sales pitch, "Listen to me because I know what is right." A billion Hindus are not listening to you, they decided to go with a different sales pitch.

In the final analysis, Jesus or no Jesus is completely and totally irrelevant. Being a good person in your heart is what is relevant.

So there is no reason for you to be "selling Jesus" on a free energy forum. You don't have "the secret" and I don't care what type of car you drive, it is irrelevant. The only thing I care about is that if you want to drive a certain make of car, is that you be a good driver.

We are not selling cars or religions on the web site. And please stop lying about your free energy fantasies.

Meanwhile, there is much good done in the name of religion. Sadly, a lot of evil is also done in the name of religion. It's like a person getting in a car and intentionally hitting people that are walking on the street.

MileHigh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on June 25, 2015, 11:28:44 AM

MileHigh:
Thanks for the statistics on the four "heads of the Beast", the Religion's of Planet Earth.
Just think how many more religions are out in the rest of the cosmos. And how many people have been killed, in the name of their God.
Their real purpose.... mind control, by getting at you through your "heart". Feeding off your Fears, like a soap opera. We soak it up, like brainwashed babies.
We're seeing it, right here.
And, if you don't believe it.... You're going to straight to hell.
Oh, my God!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 25, 2015, 10:47:31 PM

Quote from: MileHigh on June 25, 2015, 07:56:34 AM
Tito:

I agree with a lot or what you are saying but with some qualifications.

I point to people that claim to follow Jesus that commit unspeakable atrocities and evil and you say that they are false and don't have Jesus in their heart.

So, the real issue is not "following Jesus" because many people that claim to follow Jesus are evil. The real issue is to be good, regardless of whether you follow Jesus or not.

Let's use the car analogy again:

You can drive a Chevrolet or a Volkswagen or a Fiat or a Ford, the choice of car you drive is irrelevant. The only real issue is that you be a good driver.

You can drive a Chevrolet and be a terrible driver.
You can drive a Volkswagen and be a terrible driver.
You can drive a Chevrolet and be a good driver.
You can drive a Volkswagen and be a good driver.

What you are saying is this, "If you want to be a good driver you must drive a Chevrolet. If you drive a Volkswagen it's impossible to be a good driver."

What I am saying to you is this:

1. You can drive any kind of car you want and still be a good driver. Do not listen to anyone that insists that you must drive one specific type of car to be a good driver. That is complete nonsense.

2. You don't even have to have a car and you can still be a good driver.

So, you absolutely do not have to "follow Jesus" to be a good person. That is absolute crap. The only issue is to he a good person, and if you choose to follow a religion, that is your personal choice and no one has the right to tell you that you are following the "wrong" religion.

Just be a good person, it's not rocket science.

You are making a sales pitch, "Listen to me because I know what is right." A billion Hindus are not listening to you, they decided to go with a different sales pitch.

In the final analysis, Jesus or no Jesus is completely and totally irrelevant. Being a good person in your heart is what is relevant.

So there is no reason for you to be "selling Jesus" on a free energy forum. You don't have "the secret" and I don't care what type of car you drive, it is irrelevant. The only thing I care about is that if you want to drive a certain make of car, is that you be a good driver.

We are not selling cars or religions on the web site. And please stop lying about your free energy fantasies.

Meanwhile, there is much good done in the name of religion. Sadly, a lot of evil is also done in the name of religion. It's like a person getting in a car and intentionally hitting people that are walking on the street.

MileHigh

No! you are pointing people in general ok!

YOU MARK MY WORD BRO: YOU CANNOT BE A GOOD PERSON THAT LAST WITHOUT JESUS IN YOUR HEART.

FOR THE HINDUS THERE ARE SOME BELIEF THEY THINK IS RIGHT BUT IN THE END IS DEATH.

About your analogy: if your drive a car, you are the controller you are the desicion maker it follows you wherever you want right?,
now that means you are his heart, it will never run without you. got it?

NOW agin!. in your life without Jesus in your heart, you are senseless.

where did i lied about free energy fantacies pls let me see.

Evils and goods are completely separated like day and night. got it. don't mis understood. that is just easy ok?.

Yes you are mile high and i'm in exact place. joke. :D

otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 25, 2015, 11:28:49 PM

You can be a good person without Jesus in your heart. All that you need is goodness in your heart.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bboj on June 26, 2015, 03:15:14 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 25, 2015, 10:47:31 PM

You have a serious problem boy. Find help soon.
Poor kids of yours if you have them.

Find help as soon as possible ok!

No! you are pointing people in general ok!

YOU MARK MY WORD BRO: YOU CANNOT BE A GOOD PERSON THAT LAST WITHOUT JESUS IN YOUR HEART.

FOR THE HINDUS THERE ARE SOME BELIEF THEY THINK IS RIGHT BUT IN THE END IS DEATH.

About your analogy: if your drive a car, you are the controller you are the desicion maker it follows you wherever you want right?,
now that means you are his heart, it will never run without you. got it?

NOW agin!. in your life without Jesus in your heart, you are senseless.

where did i lied about free energy fantacies pls let me see.

Evils and goods are completely separated like day and night. got it. don't mis understood. that is just easy ok?.

Yes you are mile high and i'm in exact place. joke. :D

otits

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 26, 2015, 05:47:58 AM

@bboj

having Jesus in your heart is not a problem ok!
i think it is you who have a big problem and your kids too. why did you say that?

That's unprofessional!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 26, 2015, 05:50:51 AM

Quote from: MileHigh on June 25, 2015, 11:28:49 PM
You can be a good person without Jesus in your heart. All that you need is goodness in your heart.

That's impossible buddy because in the first place if you are good person you are doing his(Jesus) commandments okay.
is that very hard to think?.

ok! let me remind you about the golden rule: his first commandment is to love God with all your heart, mind and strength.
and his second commandment is love your neighbor as yourself. :)
therefore: if you are doing such things then there is Jesus in your heart though you don't know or accepted Jesus in your heart. now did you got the logic bro?.
if not still, then i can't do anything more. i've done my part explaining even i'm having difficulties in explaining ok. :)

i'm praying God will do something for you bro. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 26, 2015, 03:57:32 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 26, 2015, 05:50:51 AM

That's impossible buddy because in the first place if you are good person you are doing his(Jesus) commandments okay.
is that very hard to think?.

ok! let me remind you about the golden rule: his first commandment is to love God with all your heart, mind and strength.
and his second commandment is love your neighbor as yourself. :)
therefore: if you are doing such things then there is Jesus in your heart though you don't know or accepted Jesus in your heart. now did you got the logic bro?.
if not still, then i can't do anything more. i've done my part explaining even i'm having difficulties in explaining ok. :)

i'm praying God will do something for you bro. :)

As a matter of interest Tito - Where does Jesus fit in with the extra-terrestrials?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk
and here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03SIe2qUDDs

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on June 26, 2015, 09:29:21 PM

Tito
Would Christ keep medicine from a sick man and Let him Die? would Christ
Keep food from the hungry or water from the Thirsty ?

this Love you Speak of.. whom do you Love ?,the happy healthy and wise ,those whom you can benefit from.

you have no true Love Tito ,your heart is cold and your eyes are Blinded by mammon

what you claim to have could save many Lives yet your lack of love and compassion causes you no guilt or shame for your actions.

on to whom much is given Much is required.

Nothing about your actions is Christian ...as a matter of fact I don't think any of the worlds religions would consider your actions acceptable or righteous.

EVIL would be a much more likely definition.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tinman on June 26, 2015, 09:42:13 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 26, 2015, 05:50:51 AM

i'm praying God will do something for you bro. :)

Yea Bro

Book of Noah
I shall bring forth 40 days and 40 night's or rain,and drown all you bad F_ckers.-->except for a pair of each animal,and Noah's crew.

SYSTEM REBOOT.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2015, 04:39:03 AM

Quote from: ramset on June 26, 2015, 09:29:21 PM
Tito
Would Christ keep medicine from a sick man and Let him Die? would Christ
Keep food from the hungry or water from the Thirsty ?

this Love you Speak of.. whom do you Love ?,the happy healthy and wise ,those whom you can benefit from.

you have no true Love Tito ,your heart is cold and your eyes are Blinded by mammon

what you claim to have could save many Lives yet your lack of love and compassion causes you no guilt or shame for your actions.

on to whom much is given Much is required.

Nothing about your actions is Christian ...as a matter of fact I don't think any of the worlds religions would consider your actions acceptable or righteous.

EVIL would be a much more likely definition.

First of all, dying in this planet is not the end of us ok!, its just the beginning of the real endless tomorrow. got it?

Free energy is not actually a big deal ok.
For every important move we do we have set some priorities first ok?, well that is if you are thinking.
in time there is what you called Gods time or no not anymore if we don't deserve.
i don't know what kind of Christian action you are looking of, maybe a christian that don't use thinking about matters i guess.

much is given, much is required. i think this would not be fitted in many cases. cause sometimes little gain gives more free excess.

i am sharing Gods words and then you are thinking that i 'm in the side of EVIL?. :( that's conflicable you. what kind of logic is that? i thought you are genius :D

Lot of things can save lives ok!, not just free energy, free energy can also makes deaths too.

True love?, well, i love you men even you are thinking bad about me. :D

otits :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2015, 04:40:13 AM

Quote from: tinman on June 26, 2015, 09:42:13 PM
Yea Bro

Book of Noah
I shall bring forth 40 days and 40 night's or rain,and drown all you bad F_ckers.-->except for a pair of each animal,and Noah's crew.

SYSTEM REBOOT.

What i mean is something good to make him know God is real. :D

Albert einstein says once that ''The more i study science the more i believe in God''

Now the logic:if einstein believe in God and we are not, then i think we are more GENIUS than him is it not buddy. :D
What do you think?

i think we need to be rebooted. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tinman on June 27, 2015, 05:07:16 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2015, 04:40:13 AM

What i mean is something good to make him know God is real. :D

And you are going to prove God is real how?-other than your own belief's,and a wonderful story book.

You do know that there is not enough water to cover all the continents of earth !dont you!?
You do know that man has been around far longer than the stated date of Adam and Eve.
If there was only Adam and Eve created in the beginning,dose this mean we are all interbred?.I mean Adam and Eve had children-->then what?. And why so many different colored people in such a short time?.

That show !star gate! is much more believable than man being created by a God,and science is slowly but surely dismissing religion.
We all should have our belief's,but please,lets make them a little more realistic.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2015, 05:08:04 AM

ok here:

Everything that was made is with purpose we can really see that a big bang will just dis associate everything.

ok lets make an experiment by putting all the chemicals there and put a granade and look what will happen from that day up to then nearly end of our life.

there is really a designer ok. look at your body its beautiful made by a supreme powerful being.

Take a look a tree it gives of oxygen for us to live and we exhale carbon dioxide that a Tree need, the symbiotic relationship reveals that there is a supreme designer. is it not.
a big bang i believe cannot do that!.

otut. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2015, 05:21:57 AM

Quote from: tinman on June 27, 2015, 05:07:16 AM
And you are going to prove God is real how?-other than your own belief's,and a wonderful story book.

You do know that there is not enough water to cover all the continents of earth !dont you!?
You do know that man has been around far longer than the stated date of Adam and Eve.
If there was only Adam and Eve created in the beginning,dose this mean we are all interbred?.I mean Adam and Eve had children-->then what?. And why so many different colored people in such a short time?.

That show !star gate! is much more believable than man being created by a God,and science is slowly but surely dismissing religion.
We all should have our belief's,but please,lets make them a little more realistic.

Wow, i'm amazed. :D

There is God because there are things that we cannot say they are just accidents they where there because of purpose. someone put them there, someone made them that way etc!. BIG BANG CANNOT DO THIS PERFECT DESIGN. :o IF YOU ARE JUST GOOD THINKER YOU COULD SMELL IT ISN'T IT? ITS SO OBVIUS. AREN'T YOU. ;D

well, i did not yet tried to spill the water IN actual to cover the continents. :o i think that is just easy its just finding which is many. am i right? ;D
well, i don't believe if there is man before adam and eve. in the bible God created the first human adam and eve.
who told you that man is around before adam and eve. can it be trusted? :o

there are different colors of people because we are in different places and the effect of the sun plays a major role in that thing that happen in our skin.
there is no stargate that is not realistic, it is much better to believe that there is a supreme being or creator.
Yes we should have our belief but it should be FAITH, and in that actualistic will come. :D
i think its much better that God is dismissing science very sure. ;)

otits ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 27, 2015, 06:50:10 AM

Hmmmm....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment)

<<< The Miller–Urey experiment[1] (or Miller experiment)[2] was a chemical experiment that simulated the conditions thought at the time to be present on the early Earth, and tested the chemical origin of life under those conditions. Specifically, the experiment tested Alexander Oparin's and J. B. S. Haldane's hypothesis that conditions on the primitive Earth favoured chemical reactions that synthesized more complex organic compounds from simpler inorganic precursors. Considered to be the classic experiment investigating abiogenesis, it was conducted in 1952[3] by Stanley Miller, under the supervision of Harold Urey, at the University of Chicago and later the University of California, San Diego and published the following year.[4][5][6]

After Miller's death in 2007, scientists examining sealed vials preserved from the original experiments were able to show that there were actually well over 20 different amino acids produced in Miller's original experiments. That is considerably more than what Miller originally reported, and more than the 20 that naturally occur in life.[7] There is abundant evidence of major volcanic eruptions 4 billion years ago, which would have released carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), hydrogen sulfide (H2S), and sulfur dioxide (SO2) into the atmosphere. Experiments using these gases in addition to the ones in the original Miller experiment have produced more diverse molecules.[8] More-recent evidence suggests that Earth's original atmosphere might have had a different composition from the gas used in the Miller experiment. But prebiotic experiments continue to produce racemic mixtures of simple to complex compounds under varying conditions. >>>

It's arguable Tito that you are nothing more than a bag filled with salty water and a few other elements. All that you do is move around to search out and eat packets of energy that are produced by exposure to the sun. You are swimming against the natural flow of energy, which always is from a high energy state to a lower energy state. But because everything eventually wears out and fails, one day your bag filled with salty water will not be able to move around any more and eat the packets of energy produced by the sun. Your bag will break and will stop eating packets of energy and you will go from a high energy state to a lower energy state, and keep going in that direction with no possibility of going against the flow to a higher energy state. It's impossible to go against the flow forever. Eventually the other bags of salty water will forget that you even existed.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on June 27, 2015, 11:50:25 AM

From what I understand, once the conditions on any planet reach a point where the "green scum" can form, (from no preexisting seed), then all other life forms can began to develop, or be planted, or seeded, on that planet. Later hydrid human forms or other life forms can began to be developed, once all other conditions are right.

Green scum develops into even more complex forms of life, growing into small vines, and further into miniature forests. Si, Dios quire...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 27, 2015, 02:20:12 PM

Here is the essential knowledge : magnetic field is free energy. Yes, I know it is very very condensed info ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 27, 2015, 03:44:26 PM

Quote from: forest on June 27, 2015, 02:20:12 PM
Here is the essential knowledge : magnetic field is free energy. Yes, I know it is very very condensed info ;D ;D ;D

Nope, you posted essentially the same statement on the EMJ's partnered coils thread about two weeks ago and I challenged you to come back and back up your statement with facts and data. But you never came back.

The idea that pulsing a coil gets you free energy or the magnetic field itself is free energy is just a fantasy. It's such a powerful fantasy that people can actually make money off of the fantasy. Bedini and Nunez are two examples of people making money off of the fantasy. Nunez is clueless when it comes to electronics yet he still makes videos where his is supposedly "demonstrating electronics" with his $600 "bird's nest" coils but in fact you can clearly see that he barely knows what he is doing and he actually has no clue whatsoever how a coil even works.

One day you need to learn and move past your fantasy.

Over the years, perhaps about a dozen times in different threads I have said to people, "If you claim a coil can give you free energy then make a simple experiment that proves that with proper measurements." I have never got a response from that challenge.

MileHigh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on June 27, 2015, 04:40:01 PM

Quote from: NickZ on June 27, 2015, 11:50:25 AM
From what I understand, once the conditions on any planet reach a point where the "green scum" can form, (from no preexisting seed), then all other life forms can began to develop, or be planted, or seeded, on that planet. Later hydrid human forms or other life forms can began to be developed, once all other conditions are right.

Green scum develops into even more complex forms of life, growing into small vines, and further into miniature forests. Si, Dios quire...

Yes, and there is an interesting speculation about that that I read once. Since the physical laws are the same and the chemistry is the same on other worlds it's reasonable to assume that somewhat similar forms of life may have evolved. For example, there could be insects, reptiles, and mammals. So it's possible that on other worlds it was the reptiles that first evolved into intelligent self-aware life forms. You can imagine a cold-blooded intelligent reptilian life form with a humanoid body with a large brain and opposable thumbs, etc. Once they reached a certain level of technological sophistication you can imagine them compensating for and taking advantage of their cold-blooded physiology. You might imagine that these intelligent humanoids carried around battery packs to prevent their metabolisms from slowing down too much when it's a very cold day outside.

And the central theme here is that we evolved from random chance in a primordial soup where there was lots of energy available to "jolt" the first complex self-replicating molecules into existence. The implication being that there is no God, we are just "matter that became aware of its own existence." I think it was Carl Sagan that said that.

If this is true, it's does not give anybody an excuse to go nuts and be evil. Goodness has to come from within the self, you don't need to buy into anybody's sales pitch to be a responsible and good person.

MileHigh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on June 27, 2015, 08:55:02 PM

Hard to imagine in all the vastness of space, and it's worlds, and while we being totally surrounded by all types of known and unknown space ships, visible, as well, invisible to us, or to our instruments. We still think that we are all alone. And needing Gods, to fear, and worship, or else...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 28, 2015, 07:27:36 AM

Quote from: MileHigh on June 27, 2015, 06:50:10 AM
Hmmmm....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment)

<<< The Miller–Urey experiment[1] (or Miller experiment)[2] was a chemical experiment that simulated the conditions thought at the time to be present on the early Earth, and tested the chemical origin of life under those conditions. Specifically, the experiment tested Alexander Oparin's and J. B. S. Haldane's hypothesis that conditions on the primitive Earth favoured chemical reactions that synthesized more complex organic compounds from simpler inorganic precursors. Considered to be the classic experiment investigating abiogenesis, it was conducted in 1952[3] by Stanley Miller, under the supervision of Harold Urey, at the University of Chicago and later the University of California, San Diego and published the following year.[4][5][6]

After Miller's death in 2007, scientists examining sealed vials preserved from the original experiments were able to show that there were actually well over 20 different amino acids produced in Miller's original experiments. That is considerably more than what Miller originally reported, and more than the 20 that naturally occur in life.[7] There is abundant evidence of major volcanic eruptions 4 billion years ago, which would have released carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), hydrogen sulfide (H2S), and sulfur dioxide (SO2) into the atmosphere. Experiments using these gases in addition to the ones in the original Miller experiment have produced more diverse molecules.[8] More-recent evidence suggests that Earth's original atmosphere might have had a different composition from the gas used in the Miller experiment. But prebiotic experiments continue to produce racemic mixtures of simple to complex compounds under varying conditions. >>>

It's arguable Tito that you are nothing more than a bag filled with salty water and a few other elements. All that you do is move around to search out and eat packets of energy that are produced by exposure to the sun. You are swimming against the natural flow of energy, which always is from a high energy state to a lower energy state. But because everything eventually wears out and fails, one day your bag filled with salty water will not be able to move around any more and eat the packets of energy produced by the sun. Your bag will break and will stop eating packets of energy and you will go from a high energy state to a lower energy state, and keep going in that direction with no possibility of going against the flow to a higher energy state. It's impossible to go against the flow forever. Eventually the other bags of salty water will forget that you even existed.

What!?, :o , You mean your believe with this experiment?!, your kidding me. :D WHAT DID HE PROVED?

This is what you should put in your mind: THERE ARE SOMETHING IN THE UNIVERSE THAT SEEMS ACCIDENT BUT ACTUALLY INTENTIONALLY PLACE OR ARRANGE THEM THERE AND IT SO OBVIOUS THAT THERE IS A SUPREME BEING OK!. >:(

YOU SHOULD KNOW THE ESSENCE OF PURPOSE OK! SO SIMPLE. THEY WERE NOT THERE IF THERE I NO CREATOR OK!. >:( IS THAT VERY HARD TO THINK?, NOW I BELIEVE EINSTEIN IS GENIUS. :D

SO SIMPLE YOU CANNOT SMELL ABOUT THE PRESENCE OF GOD. TSK TSK TSK.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: padova on June 29, 2015, 12:53:53 PM

From Tesla:

"Talking with the Planets"

"While I was working to improve my devices to produce strong electric activities, I was perfecting
at the same time, means to observe weak ones. One of the most interesting results and of great practical
importance was the development of certain inventions that could announce the arrival of a storm
that was hundreds of miles away, the direction of its movement, its speed and the miles it had already
traveled.
While I was carrying out this work, I discovered for the first time some mysterious effects that
attracted my attention. I had perfected the instrument so much that from my laboratory in the Colorado
mountains I could feel the pulse of the globe and notice all electrical changes that took place
within the diameter of a few hundred miles. I'll never forget the sensation I had when I realized I
was doing something that would probably have unappreciable consequences for humanity. I felt as
if I had assisted in the birth of a new knowledge, or the discovery of a big truth ... My first observations
scared me, because there was something mysterious in them, not to say supernatural; it was
night and I was all alone in my lab; but at that time, the idea that these chaotic effects were intelligently
controlled signals had not dawned on me yet. However, the changes I noticed appeared periodically
and with suggestions in numbers and order that were so clear that they couldn't be attributed
to any other known cause. Naturally, I knew about electric disorders caused by the sun, polar light
and earth current, and I was sure of how it could relate to many facts; therefore, I knew these variations
could not derive from any of these causes. The nature of my experiments excluded the possibility
that these changes could be caused by atmospheric disorders, as some people declared. Following,
I had the idea that these disorders that I was observing could be the result of an intelligent control.
Even if I was not able to decipher their meaning, it was impossible to think of them ascompletely
casual.... In me I had the growing sensation that I was the first to hear the greeting from one planet
to another. Behind these electrical signals there was another intention ..."

Tesla had also established contact with other alien civilizations in another way, without
the aid of instruments. In fact, the only instrument for these contacts was his consciousness.
At first he thought his perceptions had come from his illness, which he was
trying to cure, setting his mind on other visions he appositely created: "... When I had done
this two, three times, the visions would lose their strength. Then I took off instinctively beyond the
boundaries of the small world I knew and had new visions. In the beginning, these visions were indistinct
and unclear, they would disappear when I tried to concentrate on them, but slowly I was
able to stabilize them; they became stronger and clearer and finally they took shape. In a short time,
I discovered I felt better if I widened my visions more, continuously receiving new impressions, so
this is how I started traveling naturally, only in my thoughts. Every night (at times even during the
day), when I was alone I would travel to see new places, cities and countries, I would live there,
meet people, get acquainted with them and, as far as it may seem incredible, these people were as
dear to me as those in real life, and their way of doing things gave me the same feelings ..."
With great surprise I understood that the impressions I got out of me, set every idea that came
from me. What's more, all my procedures were stimulated in a similar way. As time went by, it was
clear to me that I had simply become an AUTOMATED MACHINE endowed wit mobility, which
reacts to the impulse of sensorial organs and thinks and acts in harmony with this ..." Then Tesla's
conclusion: "In me constantly grows the sensation of being the first to hear the greetings
from one planet to another".

"Man's Greatest Achievement"

"In being completely developed,in man appears an unreachable, mysterious, irresistible desire,
to imitate nature, to create
the same miracles that he sees...
In ancient times man perceived that all perceptible matter derived
from a primary substance whose fine quality was beyond understanding,
that filled the whole space,
the Akasha, ether of light, on which vivifying Prana acts, that brings to life all things and phenomena
in cycles that never end. The primary substance, concentrated in infinitely small vortexes, that
move at great speed, becomes rough subject; when the force stops, it stops the movement and matter
disappears, returning to the primary substance."

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ATOM1 on June 30, 2015, 07:38:10 AM

OK very interesting tel Tesla its all about quantum entanglement and yes all earth planets are connected but Tesla did like a few drinks and also some u know what hahahah

Any way try EVP and channel the man live here why not r u up to the challenge ???

ATOM1

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on June 30, 2015, 11:41:28 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojAiLTS4BrQ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ATOM1 on June 30, 2015, 12:19:19 PM

NO THAT IS NOT AMBIANT ENERGY ! ITS SOLAR ENERGY ! ITS A SUNNY DAY IN THE VIDEO ! NOW TRY IT AT NIGHT 1 Meter of the ground than try a 1kw light system that is what tesla did me to !

Atom1

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on July 03, 2015, 04:23:53 PM

Why T. K. uses aluminum foil :o
1. as a transmitter.
2. as a shield.
3. as a receiver.
4. As a birds nest.
5. none of the above.

::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 03, 2015, 10:36:55 PM

Quote from: zdiblo on July 03, 2015, 04:23:53 PM
Why T. K. uses aluminum foil :o
1. as a transmitter.
2. as a shield.
3. as a receiver.
4. As a birds nest.
5. none of the above.

::)

i think as a birds nest. ;D
because its a good shield in laying eggs, that's why i'm putting an aluminum foil in my brief to amplify the energy in my bottom antenna. :o ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: padova on July 04, 2015, 04:02:16 PM

Quote from: ATOM1 on June 30, 2015, 07:38:10 AM
OK very interesting tel Tesla its all about quantum entanglement and yes all earth planets are connected but Tesla did like a few drinks and also some u know what hahahah

Any way try EVP and channel the man live here why not r u up to the challenge ???

ATOM1

Tesla wasn't a drinker, or smoker. And you please try EVP, but it's very misleading.
And Tesla was some sort in contact with non-human consciousness, so you could get all sort of information.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on July 04, 2015, 04:23:15 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 03, 2015, 10:36:55 PM

i think as a birds nest. ;D
because its a good shield in laying eggs, that's why i'm putting an aluminum foil in my brief to amplify the energy in my bottom antenna. :o ;D ;D ;D

1M answer .... ;)

The yin and yang... 8)

So...what's next...let me think...;D

By the way, I did not enter in the discussion about religion, because I am a Catholic priest ...
Debates and discussions, only in my parish ... everyone has the right to think what they want... :D
God bless all.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 04, 2015, 06:02:51 PM

Quote from: zdiblo on July 04, 2015, 04:23:15 PM

1M answer .... ;)

The yin and yang... 8)

So...what's next...let me think... ;D

By the way, I did not enter in the discussion about religion, because I am a Catholic priest ...
Debates and discussions, only in my parish ... everyone has the right to think what they want... :D
God bless all.

Actually we have to correct everything were ever we are or what ever we are,
because we have to consider everything as an opportunity and a chance to make good works to other.
and if we wait for them in church, i think we will loose it. Think wisely bro. you are a priest. and i'm just a simple man. sorry and i don't intention to make you feel bad, consider it as a matter of correction of your brother ok?. ;) :)

by the high way, the yin and yang is putting everything in a balance or controlling a huge amount of energy by its own self so that no big use of power from the source to be use. and making itself react faster by its power itself. really simple isn't it?. ;) 8)

I thought you want to share something :( . oh yes you have a reason why you did'nt able to share it, well i understand. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 04, 2015, 06:05:10 PM

Quote from: padova on July 04, 2015, 04:02:16 PM
Tesla wasn't a drinker, or smoker. And you please try EVP, but it's very misleading.
And Tesla was some sort in contact with non-human consciousness, so you could get all sort of information.

i think tesla is a drinker of alkaline. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: padova on July 04, 2015, 06:48:43 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 04, 2015, 06:05:10 PM

i think tesla is a drinker of alkaline. :D

What was that, some joke on Tesla?
Tesla is Inventor of Magnifying transmitter, among other. Please discuss on that.
Have you seen how Ruslan does that, and others also.

regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 05, 2015, 02:00:22 AM

https://youtu.be/r-9MqTGywdI it works on Tesla transformer principle, partially ;-)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on July 05, 2015, 12:59:39 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 04, 2015, 06:02:51 PM

Actually we have to correct everything were ever we are or what ever we are,
because we have to consider everything as an opportunity and a chance to make good works to other.
and if we wait for them in church, i think we will loose it. Think wisely bro. you are a priest. and i'm just a simple man. sorry and i don't intention to make you feel bad, consider it as a matter of correction of your brother ok?. ;) :)

by the high way, the yin and yang is putting everything in a balance or controlling a huge amount of energy by its own self so that no big use of power from the source to be use. and making itself react faster by its power itself. really simple isn't it?. ;) 8)

I thought you want to share something :( . oh yes you have a reason why you did'nt able to share it, well i understand. ;D

You can not fix everything that you think is wrong, you will not live for what brings you true love and joy, we have to learn to live with the yang side of life, the yin and yang ...in balance :)

I think God has a certain way of making us see the light at the right time of our lives and discuss Christian ideologies in a forum dedicated to free energy you will only get disappointment and makes you angry and cursing and this is worse ... :)

We're all here with a common purpose ... and only one, if it were not so, we would go to another forum ...

the high way, one direction.....like the music.... with strong traffic...D ;D ;D

Make it stronger every time we go there... ;)

And I'm sharing what you shared... 8)
I learned with you ...I can not share what I do not know...

God bless all

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 05, 2015, 01:10:39 PM

This is energy amplification:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4q9Cwt511I

or prove me wrong.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 05, 2015, 02:23:04 PM

a.king21

or Bessler wheel ;-) "continously falling"

but is that very usable device ? All mechanical devices wear out very fast.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 05, 2015, 10:51:52 PM

Quote from: zdiblo on July 05, 2015, 12:59:39 PM
You can not fix everything that you think is wrong, you will not live for what brings you true love and joy, we have to learn to live with the yang side of life, the yin and yang ...in balance :)

I think God has a certain way of making us see the light at the right time of our lives and discuss Christian ideologies in a forum dedicated to free energy you will only get disappointment and makes you angry and cursing and this is worse ... :)

We're all here with a common purpose ... and only one, if it were not so, we would go to another forum ...

the high way, one direction.....like the music.... with strong traffic...D ;D ;D

Make it stronger every time we go there... ;)

And I'm sharing what you shared... 8)
I learned with you ...I can not share what I do not know...

God bless all

Sometimes i have to fix things immediately according to what capacity i have, cause i'll surely loose it if didn't do my part, time is gold and it should be use wisely.
For everything has its own purpose for what it was meant for. and i even can't wait even for a single second cause i'll really be disappointed if it pass just it seems nothing especial. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ATOM1 on July 06, 2015, 08:06:51 PM

The universe is accelerating so in the ying yang another universe is slowing down what happens when they hit on another ????? For get this ying yang in real energy ying yang is life energy not quantum mechanics ! Now accelerate to another theory one that has power in kwh ok ....

ATOM1

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 17, 2015, 04:51:33 AM

Quote from: ATOM1 on July 06, 2015, 08:06:51 PM
The universe is accelerating so in the ying yang another universe is slowing down what happens when they hit on another ??? ?? For get this ying yang in real energy ying yang is life energy not quantum mechanics ! Now accelerate to another theory one that has power in kwh ok ....

ATOM1

We are actually using the principle and not the one you are thinking of. :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F3ovb2kZ9Q

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on July 17, 2015, 08:35:34 AM

LOL! You have missed your calling, Tito, you should be a stand-up comedian!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 17, 2015, 11:37:14 PM

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LOL! You have missed your calling, Tito, you should be a stand-up comedian!
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Yes, I used to be a standup comedian a lot of time. ;D

Thank you for mentioning, I appreciate that . ;D
And its my pleasure to make you lough. :D

Bwi hihihi. ;D

You know sir, I've learned a lot from you and I thank you for that. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 10:13:23 AM

Tito:
Great video about the healer. "Its' chi, not electricity."
And this in nothing to laugh about.

We still have a lot to learn... about this un-measurable force.
Thanks for posting the link, Tito.
We may not see more of that again, as he is instructed not to show off in public, and draw no blood.
Good advice from the spirit world! If he/we would only follow it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 18, 2015, 10:50:36 AM

No.It's Chi.It's electricity from nature ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 11:05:55 AM

Not to argue, but the point was that Chi it is not just the same as electricity.
Nor is Chi even measurable by current instruments, which can't even read it.
Nor can the Aether be measured, as well. Even though we are surrounded by it.
And divining rods, are being moved by what force??? Non-physical etherical energies?
Such as non luminous light energies?
We do have a lot to learn, still.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 11:10:04 AM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 11:05:55 AM
Not to argue, but the point was that Chi it is not just the same as electricity.
Nor is Chi even measurable by current instruments, which can't even read it.
Nor can the Aether be measured, as well. Even though we are surrounded by it.
And divining rods, are being moved by what???

If something manifests actions then why can't at least its effects be measured?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 11:15:16 AM

We are not there, yet. But, some things can be read. That is the purpose of divining rods, and more.
You can measure your thought waves, like reading those frequency waves on a scope. But, still not know what you are thinking.
Yet, another person with psi abilities, or telepathic abilities can know what you are thinking, even though our machines can't do so. Because thoughts are in a spectrum of frequencies, that are not readable our current instruments. And, even our thoughts, and intentions, have power, like the healer is showing. Or a lack of it, as un-balanced Chi.
In any case this Chi is not coming from the healer, but through the healer (as a conduit) instead. He is picking up from the surrounding ambient the energy, which he is outputting. Which can also drain his personal chi, as well, without replenishing it.
Similar to a free energy device, which is only a converter, and not a producer nor manufacture of the output electricity.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 11:20:40 AM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 11:15:16 AM
We are not there, yet.
You can measure your thought waves, in frequency. But, still not know what you are thinking.
Yet, another person with psi abilities, can know what you are thinking, even though our machines can't do so.
At least not yet.

Well, if something has effects that we can reliably attribute, then we have already made a measurement of sorts. Difficult to measure, or difficult to measure precisely mean very different things to me than "can't be measured".

Do you know of any double blind psi experiments that produced results significantly better than random guesses?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 11:54:38 AM

Well, the healer is your proof, as his Chi energy is not able to be read my any meters. Yet.
Compare that to a person without those abilities.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 12:07:54 PM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 11:54:38 AM
Well, the healer is your proof, as his Chi energy is not able to be read my any meters. Yet.
Compare that to a person without those abilities.

Again, I ask if you can point to any double blind studies that confirm these powers to a reasonable statistical certainty.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 12:25:34 PM

Statistics are not what I'm interested in. You'll have to do your own homework on that.
If after seeing the video, you still have doubts, so be it. That is not my concern, to show you more proof.
What measurements would prove THAT point?
I don't care about lab tests on PSI. They are NEVER accurate, and there are reasons for that. And real healers don't need to show off, "draw blood" or do lab studies. Unless they want to, and even then, aren't supposed to. I care about seeing it and experiencing it for myself. Being healed in any way, would be the proof.
Most healers are fakes, it's true, but what about the ones that can really help to heal you, when all normal doctors couldn't. Miraculously,and instantly. You want the count and the amount? There are thousands of case cases histories with witnesses, many books are written on the subject, look for them yourself, if you are really interested. But, are you?
Read about Tesla, as he was also telepathic, and study about his personal history, as well. But, will you?
As you don't believe these thing are even possible.

The point being that we are similar to a free energy system mostly drawing off of thin air, and what is in it.
Look at the guy in India, after spending months under a tree, eating nothing, drinking nothing, but never stopping to breath. Living from the Energy, that's in thin air...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 12:58:54 PM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 12:25:34 PM
Statistics are not what I'm interested in. You'll have to do your own homework on that.

I am asking for a reliable indication that these powers have been shown to be real. Double blind studies that show statistics well beyond random would be good evidence towards that end.

Quote
If after seeing the video, you still have doubts, so be it. That is not my concern, to show you more proof.

People have all kinds of biases, including me. That's why I look towards reliable objective data.

Quote
What statistics would confirm what you are seeing??? What measurements would prove THAT point?

Well, for example let's say that we want to test the idea that someone can read thoughts at a distance. We could set up a test where the persons whose thoughts are supposedly being read cannot communicate intentionally or unintentionally through some other means to the person reading their thoughts. Rather than require the subject to be right 100% of the time, we collect statistics at a minimum as to how many times they are correct out of how many tries. If we see that they are right most of the time, then that suggests that their powers are real. If they are only right with about the same frequency as random chance, then that suggests they don't have powers beyond a Magic 8 Ball.

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I don't care about lab tests on PSI. They are never accurate. And real healers don't need to show off, or do lab studies. I care about seeing it and experiencing it for myself. Being healed in any way, would be the proof.

Suppose that we accept that there are genuine healers out there. There are alos likely to be frauds. Wouldn't you want a genuine healer to help you in your hour of need and notget cheated by a poser?

Quote
Most healers are fakes, it's true, but what about the ones that can really help to heal you, when all normal doctors couldn't. Miraculously,and instantly. You want the count and the amount? There are thousands of case cases histories with witnesses, look for them yourself.

I am interested in what we can objectively determine.

Quote
Read about Tesla, he was telepathic, and his about personal history, as well.

If anyone is telepathic that would be remarkable. I think it would be worth determining objectively.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 01:30:11 PM

Objectively look for it then. There are many many cases to study. Reading someones thoughts is only one aspect of it.
Inventing something brand new, by inspiration, unlike anything before it, is another thing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 01:35:50 PM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 01:30:11 PM
Objectively look for it then. There are many many cases to study. Reading someones thoughts is only one aspect of it.
Inventing something brand new, by inspiration, unlike anything before it, is another thing.

If you don't have double blind studies that you can point to, that's OK.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 01:45:43 PM

Read about Tesla and his abilities, his communications with non physical entities, and about how his inventions came about, to create and invent so many new things, and all his novel patents, etz... Which even after many years can still not be fully understood, or replicated.
There are many case histories and tests on the ability to read thoughts at a distance, which have already been done, just check the internet. That is not my calling. Free energy systems, are.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 01:53:59 PM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 01:45:43 PM
Read about Tesla and his abilities, his communications with non physical entities, and about how his inventions came about, to create and invent so many new things, and all his novel patents, etz... Which even after many years can still not be fully understood, or replicated.
There are many case histories and tests on the ability to read thoughts at a distance, which have already been done, just check the internet. That is not my calling. Free energy systems, are.

For obvious reasons intelligence agencies are very interested in such things both from an ability to gather, and finding means to protect stand points. Quite a bit of funding went into studying these sorts of claims back in the 1970s, a bit notoriously including the experiments with Uri Geller, the once claimed psychic who now refers to himself as a "mystifier". PS: he also sells jewelry on TV.

There may be people who have the powers that you cite. Or there may not be such people. Objective evidence would be a good way to settle things.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 18, 2015, 01:56:27 PM

Quote from: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 01:53:59 PM
For obvious reasons intelligence agencies are very interested in such things both from an ability to gather, and finding means to protect stand points. Quite a bit of funding went into studying these sorts of claims back in the 1970s, a bit notoriously including the experiments with Uri Geller, the once claimed psychic who now refers to himself as a "mystifier". PS: he also sells jewelry on TV.

There may be people who have the powers that you cite. Or there may not be such people. Objective evidence would be a good way to settle things.

You could start here:
http://www.medjugorje.com/medjugorje/scientific-studies/627-specific-tests-administered-to-the-medjugorje-visionaries-and-their-results.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 02:06:00 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on July 18, 2015, 01:56:27 PM

You could start here:
http://www.medjugorje.com/medjugorje/scientific-studies/627-specific-tests-administered-to-the-medjugorje-visionaries-and-their-results.html

It is written on an entertainment level while seeking donations.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 18, 2015, 02:36:28 PM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 10:13:23 AM
Tito:
Great video about the healer. "Its' chi, not electricity."
And this in nothing to laugh about.

We still have a lot to learn... about this un-measurable force.
Thanks for posting the link, Tito.
We may not see more of that again, as he is instructed not to show off in public, and draw no blood.
Good advice from the spirit world! If he/we would only follow it.

How come its not electricity?, where the effect is the same. :o
If we are going to study the human body, the human heart muscle is being struct by a small spark for it to squeeze.
And again for the atheist, it is again accident that, that squeeze is the reason for the blood to circulate in our body.
What a big co-accidents.:o
There is really a supreme designer, for whatever he do there is a great purpose.
Really a simple things that many can't able to see or maybe intentionally not looking at it. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 18, 2015, 02:48:46 PM

Quote from: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 02:06:00 PM
It is written on an entertainment level while seeking donations.

Rubbish.. You can't have studied it.
Yours is a pillock's response.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 18, 2015, 02:50:37 PM

Quote from: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 02:06:00 PM
It is written on an entertainment level while seeking donations.

Sometimes human feelings knows if its real or not. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 03:11:25 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on July 18, 2015, 02:48:46 PM

Rubbish.. You can't have studied it.
Yours is a pillock's response.

Believe what you like. I went, I read, I found no description of any tests even pretending to have scientific rigor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 03:30:10 PM

Mark.E
Here is your double blind study. You can start, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8xjS0f0QRw

I especially like the part at about minute 106, about when Tesla tears up a $10.000.000 contract, and says:
"You don't own me anything. When nobody listened, you, believed in me."

I thought that even if you've seen this video before, you might like to see it again. It's a long one...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 03:35:39 PM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 03:30:10 PM
Mark.E
Here is your double blind study. You can start, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8xjS0f0QRw

I especially like the part at about minute 106, about when Tesla tears up a $10.000.000 contract, and says:
"You don't own me anything. When nobody listened, you, believed in me."

I thought that even if you've seen this video before, you might like to see it again. It's a long one...

Nick how is a biography of Tesla a double blind study? I am not trying to sway you from your beliefs. I have merely told you what kind of objective evidence it will take to convince me.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 03:41:16 PM

Tito:
You asked:
"How come its not electricity?, where the effect is the same."

I know what you mean, and in a sense it's like electricity, but, just like magnetism can produce electricity, Chi can also produce a spark, but the source of the spark is not electrical in nature. Nor can it can it be measured. Nor can the Aether. Nor can spirits. Not even your soul.
Not even God. The Creator, All THAT IS.
Does that mean they doesn't exist? To some people it would seam so.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 04:09:01 PM

Mark.E:
I wouldn't dare try to convince you. If you've already made up your mind, that such things just can't and don't exist. But, I can try to coax you onto answering your own questions.
Watch the movie, and try to get what I mean.

If you want clinical studies of PSI tests, including telepathy, clairvoance, etz... Such as what was mentioned previously, much of that is available on the Internet.
Uri Geller was one example, which I've seen in person.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/17/uri-geller-documentary_n_3455410.html

There is another guy from Canada that can produce self running devices using only the power of his mind, as well. I forget his name, or I'd post a link. Maybe some one has that information, or remembers his name.
He also had certain mental disabilities and disbalances, as Tesla did.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 04:44:00 PM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 04:09:01 PM
Mark.E:
I wouldn't dare try to convince you. If you've already made up your mind, that such things just can't and don't exist.

I have explained the objective evidence that would sway me. If you think that standard is impossible to meet, then you can conclude that I am not going to buy into such claims.

QuoteBut, I can try to coax you onto answering your own questions.
Watch the movie, and try to get what I mean.

Thank you but I have a long list of movies that I have yet to see that this competes with. If there is something cogent that you would like to point at, I'll take a look at that.

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If you want clinical studies of PSI tests, including telepathy, clairvoance, etz... Such as what was mentioned previously, much of that is available on the Internet.
Uri Geller was one example, which I've seen in person.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/17/uri-geller-documentary_n_3455410.html

Since Geller has been exposed as a fake and no longer calls himself a psychic, but a "mystifier" we can dispense with that. It is not encouraging if you have been swayed by an exposed fake.

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There is another guy from Canada that can produce self running devices using only the power of his mind, as well. I forget his name, or I'd post a link. Maybe some one has that information, or remembers his name.
He also had certain mental disabilities and disbalances, as Tesla did.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 06:48:13 PM

Mark.E:
Well, there you have it Mark, you've got it all summed up.
If you have concluded that all is fake, and nothing else to consider. Then why should I or anyone else try to show you with clinical proof of what you are looking for. Those aren't my interest for being here. Free energy is.

I've tried to explain, Tesla as being an example of someone having and using extra sensory perception.
To create, invent, and patent many new ideas and world changing electrical and electronic contraptions.
Which was also ridiculed, as shown in the movie, when he explained just how those ideas came to being.
But, you don't seam to consider that note worthy. Sorry, that's I can do, for now.
There are many books written on the subject that you asked about. If you care to look.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 08:31:25 PM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 06:48:13 PM
Mark.E:
Well, there you have it Mark, you've got it all summed up.
If you have concluded that all is fake, and nothing else to consider. Then why should I or anyone else try to show you with clinical proof of what you are looking for.

Uri Geller is an established fake. When you offer him as an example of someone with psychic powers then you offer a disproven example. If you can point to reliable evidence, then I am happy to look. If you can't, then I am unmoved. Since, you say that you are not out to convince me, that should not bother you.

QuoteThose aren't my interest for being here. Free energy is.

Then I suggest that you just let it go. You have your beliefs and you are welcome to them.

Quote

I've tried to explain, Tesla as being an example of someone having and using extra sensory perception.
To create, invent, and patent many new ideas and world changing electrical and electronic contraptions.

Tesla was a genius. Did "ESP" let him take or develop ideas from others straight out of their heads? AFAIK he was never subjected to double blind experiments, so that is not an answerable question.

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Which was also ridiculed, as shown in the movie, when he explained just how those ideas came to being.
But, you don't seam to consider that note worthy. Sorry, that's I can do, for now.

The problem is that the movie can at best be anecdotal. It's objective evidence that I am interested in.

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There are many books written on the subject that you asked about. If you care to look.

Yes, it has been a popular subject for many many years. But again, popularity doesn't make objective evidence. Carefully designed and executed experiments do. Uri Geller is an example of a showman who had a vested interest in tricking naive researchers and he did. If you go back and review the Targ and Puthoff experiments you will find that the protocols were incredibly weak. Johnny Carson and James Randi undid Geller by simply applying stronger protocols and all of a sudden Geller's claimed powers vanished. As Geller put it: "I am not feeling very strong tonight."

Does that mean that there isn't anyone with psychic gifts? No. But Randi's organization has offered a hefty $1 million dollar prize to anyone who can demonstrate theirs under mutually agreed objective test conditions for decades now. No one has managed to claim that prize. Again that doesn't prove that no one has these abilities. But, it certainly raises great question as to how common they could possibly be, if they exist at all.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 09:10:09 PM

Mark.E:
Well, if videos, movies, and the many available books on the subject of ESP, etz...are not very credible as proof of anything to you. And clinical reports, aren't either. Then, you do have a problem, which I'm not going to try and resolve, or advice on.
And since you don't even have the time, to watch the movie that I posted, nor are aware of the points that I'm trying to make, I see no point to carry on.

There has been no one claiming the OverUnity prize, and that has won it , either. So... what does that mean?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Spilled Fluids on July 18, 2015, 09:12:47 PM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 09:10:09 PM
Mark.E:
Well, if videos, movies, and the many available books on the subject of ESP, etz...are not very credible as proof of anything to you. And clinical reports, aren't either. Then, you do have a problem, which I'm not going to try and resolve, or advice on.
And since you don't even have the time, to watch the movie that I posted, nor are aware of the points that I'm trying to make, I see no point to carry on.

Good, then don't carry on since you are wasting everyone's time.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 09:15:50 PM

Spilled Fluids:
Bad hair day?
Good day to you, as well.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Spilled Fluids on July 18, 2015, 09:19:03 PM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 09:15:50 PM
Spilled Fluids:
Bad hair day?
Good day to you, as well.

LOL Nick, I don't have any hair left ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 09:32:30 PM

Try some energy amplification coils, on for size. I hear they can even make hair grow back.
Tito knows... but he won't show them to you. Well, maybe some day...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Spilled Fluids on July 18, 2015, 09:35:19 PM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 09:32:30 PM
Try some energy amplification coils, on for size. I hear they can even make hair grow back.
Tito knows... but he won't show them to you. Well, maybe some day...

Sadly, as much as people want coils and other devices to amplify energy; there is no such thing. None have been demonstrated and none will ever be demonstrated.
There is simply no getting around the laws of conservation of energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 09:42:46 PM

Ok, thanks for the info. Sorry, I'm in the wrong thread. Was looking for OU in all the wrong places.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Spilled Fluids on July 18, 2015, 09:58:03 PM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 09:42:46 PM
Ok, thanks for the info. Sorry, I'm in the wrong thread. Was looking for OU in all the wrong places.

Actually, there are no 'right' places to look for it either.
Over Unity as in creating energy is not possible.
The very best we can do is to improve the efficiency of existing systems or finding new ways of extracting energy that does not violate the conservation of energy.
There always has to be a flow and in the end, the sources of those flows will always meet the rigours of conservation of energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 11:20:21 PM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 09:10:09 PM
Mark.E:
Well, if videos, movies, and the many available books on the subject of ESP, etz...are not very credible as proof of anything to you. And clinical reports, aren't either. Then, you do have a problem, which I'm not going to try and resolve, or advice on.
And since you don't even have the time, to watch the movie that I posted, nor are aware of the points that I'm trying to make, I see no point to carry on.

There has been no one claiming the OverUnity prize, and that has won it , either. So... what does that mean?

I have explained to you several times now that what is required is objective proof. I have asked you for such proof. You don't happen to have any. You insist both that you are not trying to convince me, yet you keep throwing up one anecdote after another and complaining that I don't accept anecdotes as proof. Your cite of Uri Geller as an example could not be worse. If you really want to keep hammering away at this, we can go on as long as you have the stamina.

No one claiming the OU prize suggests that there aren't very many if any OU devices out there that could claim it. As with the Randi paranormal prize it is evidence, not proof.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 11:21:30 PM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 09:42:46 PM
Ok, thanks for the info. Sorry, I'm in the wrong thread. Was looking for OU in all the wrong places.

That sounds like the title to a country and western song.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 19, 2015, 05:47:51 AM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 03:41:16 PM
Tito:
You asked:
"How come its not electricity?, where the effect is the same."

I know what you mean, and in a sense it's like electricity, but, just like magnetism can produce electricity, Chi can also produce a spark, but the source of the spark is not electrical in nature. Nor can it can it be measured. Nor can the Aether. Nor can spirits. Not even your soul.
Not even God. The Creator, All THAT IS.
Does that mean they doesn't exist? To some people it would seam so.

ohhh, i think i got you. ya your right. good. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 19, 2015, 05:54:02 AM

Quote from: NickZ on July 18, 2015, 09:32:30 PM
Try some energy amplification coils, on for size. I hear they can even make hair grow back.
Tito knows... but he won't show them to you. Well, maybe some day...

:( i am actually thinking deeply buddy. i believe there are consequences if i will show this.

but one thing for sure, "its real". :(

conservation of energy will not be violated, its just harnessed. 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 19, 2015, 06:01:44 AM

Quote from: Spilled Fluids on July 18, 2015, 09:58:03 PM
Actually, there are no 'right' places to look for it either.
Over Unity as in creating energy is not possible.
The very best we can do is to improve the efficiency of existing systems or finding new ways of extracting energy that does not violate the conservation of energy.
There always has to be a flow and in the end, the sources of those flows will always meet the rigours of conservation of energy.

No buddy, its real, its just like creating fire out of nowhere and everywhere we can do it. believe it.

ITS REALLY VERY POSSIBLE.

AGAIN LIKE WHAT I ALREADY SAID AND TESLA SAID ABOUT THE ROLLING STONE ICE FROM TOP OF THE HILL
AS IT ROLL IT INCREASES IN DIAMETER AND IN THE RIGHT TIME IT CREATES AN AVALANTZ.

AND THAT IS ACCUMULATION

AND THAT'S THE WHOLE TRUTH! :)

SO LONG BUDDY :)

ETIOTOTS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 24, 2015, 11:37:20 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krEVMHieTuI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krEVMHieTuI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaJ_cbJ2JgI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaJ_cbJ2JgI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeejHbhynZE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeejHbhynZE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZk-FeGiuRY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZk-FeGiuRY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cev0Z9rKvag (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cev0Z9rKvag)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m85GS5APXfk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m85GS5APXfk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2rymViLKIs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2rymViLKIs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNDd20qQI9c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNDd20qQI9c)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBGP0DWvZws (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBGP0DWvZws)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic_72-RpJxo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic_72-RpJxo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg0IbUXWFFE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg0IbUXWFFE)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qwq5Rejq4E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qwq5Rejq4E)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhYEdD94vH0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhYEdD94vH0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opOLXaRNt4c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opOLXaRNt4c)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M10VjAPv16U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M10VjAPv16U)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQG4YDqwWD0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQG4YDqwWD0)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5NKs-18dK8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5NKs-18dK8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=980UZtrzuC8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=980UZtrzuC8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrnul6ixX90

Ya, why not. this are already given.

if you can't do the simple one, why not try this. very practical to do isn' it. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 26, 2015, 08:01:52 PM

Quote from: idegen on July 26, 2015, 03:59:05 PM
Tito!
this is serious?
Each link is bullshit!
good fun?

Thy will be done.
Have fun.
:) :) :)

What?! :o , You mean to say, they spent a lot of money just doing this b!@#!@#!@#?

so you mean also that chas campbel is lying? :o

why is it that is to be then? :D

bulltit ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on July 27, 2015, 12:57:20 PM

So what we need for making the extra coil or coils to work?

1. Aluminium
2. capacitor
3. diode
4. capacitor and diode
5. cap+diode+alum
6. none above

This is for 2M :D

God bless all.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 28, 2015, 04:36:07 AM

Quote from: zdiblo on July 27, 2015, 12:57:20 PM
So what we need for making the extra coil or coils to work?

1. Aluminium
2. capacitor
3. diode
4. capacitor and diode
5. cap+diode+alum
6. none above

This is for 2M :D

God bless all.

cap+diode+coil that's all what you need for free energy. 8) [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 28, 2015, 04:39:53 AM

Quote from: idegen on July 27, 2015, 07:20:34 PM
Mr Tito!
I do not know who's lying.
I do not know who is: Chas Campbell.
You know? Dude?
One thing I know: Flywheel not extra!
It gives back what you put into it.
After deduction of losses.
Debating anything.
it's good?

good for me.
I learn English :)
:) :) :)

i think you need this for your stress. :D ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1EG-MKy4so

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on July 28, 2015, 01:18:29 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 28, 2015, 04:36:07 AM

cap+diode+coil that's all what you need for free energy. 8) [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on July 29, 2015, 10:02:14 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 28, 2015, 04:36:07 AM

cap+diode+coil that's all what you need for free energy. 8) [size=78%] [/size]

You forgot to mention the coloured clipleads.

Oh.... and the big honking battery.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 30, 2015, 03:35:02 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 29, 2015, 10:02:14 PM
You forgot to mention the coloured clipleads.

Oh.... and the big honking battery.

thank you sir but what i forgot to mention is the antenna source. :) ;) :D 8)

and that's the throat ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 30, 2015, 03:36:56 AM

Quote from: idegen on July 29, 2015, 05:20:40 PM
I did not know what was missing ... : your brief or should i say panty ? ??? :o ;D joke.
What I wanted! : dead or alive? ???
thank you sir! : its okay ;D
You the good :) : you miss one "o" :)

;) :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 30, 2015, 03:37:54 AM

Quote from: zdiblo on July 28, 2015, 01:18:29 PM
8)

:o :D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on July 31, 2015, 10:36:49 AM

MY BRILLIANT INVENTION THE CRESCENDO MEG..
I RECEIVE WITH JOY AND GIVE WITH JOY

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on July 31, 2015, 11:23:59 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 29, 2015, 10:02:14 PM
You forgot to mention the coloured clipleads.

Oh.... and the big honking battery.

Hi , did you use some particularly coloured clipleads to put work your circuits, or any color will work ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 31, 2015, 09:38:35 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 19, 2015, 05:54:02 AM

:( i am actually thinking deeply buddy. i believe there are consequences if i will show this.

but one thing for sure, "its real". :(

conservation of energy will not be violated, its just harnessed. 8)

Why not pm the people you trust.
That will be perfect payback for the bad lads.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: SoManyWires on July 31, 2015, 11:34:03 PM

Quote from: Spilled Fluids on July 18, 2015, 09:35:19 PM
Sadly, as much as people want coils and other devices to amplify energy; there is no such thing. None have been demonstrated and none will ever be demonstrated.
There is simply no getting around the laws of conservation of energy.

the easiest way get around those laws, is provided somebody else does all meal preparations with an electric stove after asking them.

there seems to be lots of other ways too according to these threads that are thought provoking that i'm still trying to understand.

3rd party test results do save much time upon build completion, as others suggest.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 02, 2015, 09:36:01 PM

Quote from: idegen on August 02, 2015, 05:49:58 PM
I can not start a new topic.
That is why I stay here.
This is the best.

Tito help!
Open a new topic.
Address: Wake up, people!
Grateful thanks!
Big honking everyone! :) :) :)
:P

Hi buddy, what help do you want me to do?, are you in trouble? :o

OK here: we can say that free energy is like a fire.
We can start, we can control , we can do a lot of things to add lots of recipee
We are unlimited free your self from the box.

In time when matches are not yet discovered, its so really hard to make fire , and its so easy now for we have
lots of tools. ;D

I guarantee you, You can do it buddy. :) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 02, 2015, 09:44:37 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on July 31, 2015, 09:38:35 PM

Why not pm the people you trust.
That will be perfect payback for the bad lads.

Its really hard to trust in this point, espescialy the secret is too simple to do :)
Off course my condition is I want to be paid first, and that is also the reason why they don't want to trust
Also and I understand them also, its natural. :)

So the end point is NO DEAL! :D

Many times in this situation, payback doesn't go back :D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on August 02, 2015, 10:45:30 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 02, 2015, 09:44:37 PM
Its really hard to trust in this point, espescialy the secret is too simple to do :)
Off course my condition is I want to be paid first, and that is also the reason why they don't want to trust
Also and I understand them also, its natural. :)

So the end point is NO DEAL! :D

Many times in this situation, payback doesn't go back :D ;D

Name your price.. pm me if you want to keep it secret.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 02, 2015, 11:09:43 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on August 02, 2015, 10:45:30 PM

Name your price.. pm me if you want to keep it secret.

Wow :o are you serious? Buddy :D

I don't think so. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on August 03, 2015, 12:01:25 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 02, 2015, 11:09:43 PM
Wow :o are you serious? Buddy :D

I don't think so. :D

I am serious

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 03, 2015, 06:14:17 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on August 03, 2015, 12:01:25 AM
I am serious

Let's just follow tinman's experiment, he is also serious. ;) :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on August 03, 2015, 04:20:21 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 03, 2015, 06:14:17 AM
Let's just follow tinman's experiment, he is also serious. ;) :)

Too bad you're not serious.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on August 03, 2015, 04:21:08 PM

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on July 31, 2015, 11:23:59 AM
Hi , did you use some particularly coloured clipleads to put work your circuits, or any color will work ?

Yellow works best.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 04, 2015, 06:17:47 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on August 03, 2015, 04:20:21 PM
Too bad you're not serious.

no sir, i just can't be serious. :D i dun no

sorry. :) :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 04, 2015, 06:18:50 AM

Quote from: idegen on August 03, 2015, 05:17:56 PM
Tito!
The whole world is in trouble.
Babel confusion.
Google translator does not describe what I'm saying.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Or it aside for you?

what do you mean? :o :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 04, 2015, 06:21:00 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on August 03, 2015, 12:01:25 AM
I am serious

Sorry buddy. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 04, 2015, 11:54:31 PM

Quote from: idegen on August 04, 2015, 02:27:23 PM
Mr Tito!
I wanted to open a new theme: Wake Up People!
There is no free energy field.
To do this, I asked for your help.
Not essential.
They will understand once.
I'll go more honking :)
:P

Well, the problem is, i don't know how to deny the truth. :o :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 06, 2015, 12:45:59 AM

Quote from: idegen on August 05, 2015, 05:00:48 PM
Do you know the truth?
Why not tell the world?

Scam strengthening works better?

All topics:
scam.
bullshit.
Energy from the wall.
sorry!

Every body knows that free energy is real. :)
Even the power coming from the electric company is actually came from free energy source, they
Just made you to pay for it.
So therefore we are of for the best and efficient way of sourcing the energy .

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 06, 2015, 02:39:27 PM

Tito

You know what you need to do , just prove that Perrigo was correct. Or help me in this task. This is more important then free energy. I'm searching for clean proof but not yet found it. I know Figuera knew the truth, but still replicating his generator is not a clean proof.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 07, 2015, 08:26:28 AM

Quote from: forest on August 06, 2015, 02:39:27 PM
Tito

You know what you need to do , just prove that Perrigo was correct. Or help me in this task. This is more important then free energy. I'm searching for clean proof but not yet found it. I know Figuera knew the truth, but still replicating his generator is not a clean proof.

Well, I'm always willing to help :)
Pls. give me The links or info. I need for us to study it here. :)

Thank you. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on August 08, 2015, 11:37:11 AM

Tito

All we have to find is a clean proof of what Perrigo said or what Figuera described in patents.
""The device is a generator as truly as the power-driven rotary generator in any power plant. Those generators don't actually 'make' electricity. They condense it from the air."[/size]

https://www.google.pl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQFjAAahUKEwjT6NC55pnHAhWH6CwKHYF3BF8&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rexresearch.com%2Fperrigo%2Fperrig.htm&ei=FyDGVZOBNYfRswGB75H4BQ&usg=AFQjCNH_BnRHpIgwpJ13IEJvEr4_wwu1rA&sig2=-59ClabmUuyJIjmIYdTn-A&bvm=bv.99804247,d.bGg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: core on August 10, 2015, 12:19:53 AM

Quote from: forest on August 08, 2015, 11:37:11 AM
Tito

All we have to find is a clean proof of what Perrigo said or what Figuera described in patents.
""The device is a generator as truly as the power-driven rotary generator in any power plant. Those generators don't actually 'make' electricity. They condense it from the air."[/size]

Forest, this dude has nothing. However I presented a compelling argument for the Figuera and possibly TK device.

http://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg458737/#msg458737 (http://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg458737/#msg458737)

Follow that link a few pages back I have a PDF drawing and cited work/patents.

-Core

https://www.google.pl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQFjAAahUKEwjT6NC55pnHAhWH6CwKHYF3BF8&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rexresearch.com%2Fperrigo%2Fperrig.htm&ei=FyDGVZOBNYfRswGB75H4BQ&usg=AFQjCNH_BnRHpIgwpJ13IEJvEr4_wwu1rA&sig2=-59ClabmUuyJIjmIYdTn-A&bvm=bv.99804247,d.bGg (https://www.google.pl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQFjAAahUKEwjT6NC55pnHAhWH6CwKHYF3BF8&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rexresearch.com%2Fperrigo%2Fperrig.htm&ei=FyDGVZOBNYfRswGB75H4BQ&usg=AFQjCNH_BnRHpIgwpJ13IEJvEr4_wwu1rA&sig2=-59ClabmUuyJIjmIYdTn-A&bvm=bv.99804247,d.bGg)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 10, 2015, 01:43:07 AM

Quote from: core on August 10, 2015, 12:19:53 AM

Are you sure ?, :o :P
all the magic happens in the iron core?. :o, sorry but that is a big wrong!!! :P :P :P
And by the highway core, you,re always uncorrect!, correct?. :D ;D

Corectit ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 10, 2015, 01:50:54 AM

Quote from: forest on August 08, 2015, 11:37:11 AM
Tito

All we have to find is a clean proof of what Perrigo said or what Figuera described in patents.
""The device is a generator as truly as the power-driven rotary generator in any power plant. Those generators don't actually 'make' electricity. They condense it from the air."[/size]

https://www.google.pl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQFjAAahUKEwjT6NC55pnHAhWH6CwKHYF3BF8&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rexresearch.com%2Fperrigo%2Fperrig.htm&ei=FyDGVZOBNYfRswGB75H4BQ&usg=AFQjCNH_BnRHpIgwpJ13IEJvEr4_wwu1rA&sig2=-59ClabmUuyJIjmIYdTn-A&bvm=bv.99804247,d.bGg

Well, the principle is still the same "Collecting many small energy into a big coil" , and its correct.
And that is convertion in long method. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2015, 06:10:57 AM

Quote from: idegen on August 10, 2015, 06:32:47 PM
Evidence?
There are none!
No one has evidence.
As I see it: do not have free energy device build people.
Neither the past nor today

Here is your evidence! :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRC4tK02aco (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRC4tK02aco)

Electricity is replicators therefore it can be amplify. 8)
simple logic eh. 8)

not by resonance but by accumulation from its field. ;)
The field is open therefore its unlimited.

atiots :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on September 01, 2015, 09:07:33 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2015, 06:10:57 AM

Here is your evidence! :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRC4tK02aco (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRC4tK02aco)

Electricity is replicators therefore it can be amplify. 8)
simple logic eh. 8)

not by resonance but by accumulation from its field. ;)
The field is open therefore its unlimited.

atiots :D

That's the best you can come up with? An A-V plug?

Is that how you charge your cellphone? I'll bet you a cheezburger that it isn't.

Are you sure you don't mean

idiots :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on September 01, 2015, 01:06:50 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2015, 06:10:57 AM

Here is your evidence! :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRC4tK02aco (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRC4tK02aco)

Electricity is replicators therefore it can be amplify. 8)
simple logic eh. 8)

not by resonance but by accumulation from its field. ;)
The field is open therefore its unlimited.

atiots :D

The last time I built one of those it worked wonderfully until I turned the mains off.
It picks up electrosmog.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2015, 11:23:07 PM

Quote from: idegen on September 01, 2015, 05:11:22 PM
Tito!
You are imperfect?
Or you Santa Claus?
There is always a new basket of bullshit?
This is serious?
Or painful joke?
:D :D ;)

That's no joke!, that will work as an initial source, that is really the real plan of tesla "as an initial source only" then amplify it in the field. :o

The main question you should ask must be "how to amplify current and voltage at the same time", well voltage can increase very faster but current can follow atleast like the speed of sound. and we can get it outside ok. 8)

ok!, i think it is now time to point everyone into a right direction.
its actually the ignition patent plus the single wire technique will give us a lot of power.
This is actually one of the secret i am using and it is not hidden and its very open. :)
I believe you can do it. just be careful cause its very dangerous. :)

otoits. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2015, 11:30:01 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on September 01, 2015, 09:07:33 AM
That's the best you can come up with? An A-V plug?

Is that how you charge your cellphone? I'll bet you a cheezburger that it isn't.

Are you sure you don't mean

idiots :o

actually cellphone can be charge even using just a button battery is it not? did you not try that buddy? :D :o

and even idiots can do that. ;) joke hahahahahhaha ;D :D

its just a matter of piece of burger cheeze. :D

burgeriots ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2015, 11:33:10 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on September 01, 2015, 01:06:50 PM

The last time I built one of those it worked wonderfully until I turned the mains off.
It picks up electrosmog.

Its actually in the style of arrangement. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2015, 11:41:20 PM

Do you think tesla will make that magnifying transmitter for just junk only?.

THAT IS ACTUALLY HIS PEAK IN PERFECTING THE A.C. TECHNOLOGY. 8)

SEE IT WAS SUPPRESSED, WHY? BECAUSE IT WILL REALLY WORK. :)

DID YOU GOT THE LOGIC LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? ;D

THERE IS NO MORE DOUBT TO THAT IT WILL REALLY WORK OK! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on September 02, 2015, 11:15:40 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2015, 11:30:01 PM

actually cellphone can be charge even using just a button battery is it not? did you not try that buddy? :D :o

and even idiots can do that. ;) joke hahahahahhaha ;D :D

its just a matter of piece of burger cheeze. :D

burgeriots ;D

Feel free to demonstrate charging your cellphone using just a button cell battery.

Of course you have never actually demonstrated any of your claims, so why should you start now?

The Cheezburgers are on you. I'll have mine with fries, please.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on September 02, 2015, 11:19:08 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 01, 2015, 11:41:20 PM
Do you think tesla will make that magnifying transmitter for just junk only?.

THAT IS ACTUALLY HIS PEAK IN PERFECTING THE A.C. TECHNOLOGY. 8)

SEE IT WAS SUPPRESSED, WHY? BECAUSE IT WILL REALLY WORK. :)

DID YOU GOT THE LOGIC LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? ;D

THERE IS NO MORE DOUBT TO THAT IT WILL REALLY WORK OK! >:(

I don't think you'd recognize a real Tesla magnifiying transmitter if you woke up next to one in bed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l6GvHmHRc8

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on September 03, 2015, 03:23:13 AM

We could amplify by using one leg to put in the field, and using one leg to collect, not so?
Trying to decode a device that uses 1.5 volts and up, if not, the other ones that uses 12volts and spark gaps are also good.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on September 03, 2015, 07:36:07 PM

I aint seem any energy amplification on here not on this page any way, and a word of warning, never ever understand any one, cus the meaning is a verbal contract where you accept your place of being under an arse hole, and being shit on!

PS nothing on this tread is about Tesla's energy amplification !!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on September 17, 2015, 04:33:04 PM

Brother Tito
I hope all is well with you!

Here's an interesting recent explanation of Tesla's Radiant Energy Collector, by Eric Dollard. It makes a lot of sense to me, and I have long believed that one approach to Tito's system is feedback. This statement confirms it for me:

Quote...Now, what Tesla did, is that when the capacitor became charged, it was discharged into a Tesla-form of resonant transformer, which took the charge, converted it into magnetism, and then threw it back into the capacitor. One thing that's not realized about Tesla's technology is that it's power-based and not energy-based, and all the energy is returned at the end of the cycle. That's what Tesla was after with that technology...

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWoLH21ITys&feature=player_detailpage#t=4678

I wonder if anyone can address this without resorting to attacking Eric Dollard at a personal level. ;D

Stay well, Teets!
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 18, 2015, 02:17:46 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on September 17, 2015, 04:33:04 PM
Brother Tito
I hope all is well with you!

Here's an interesting recent explanation of Tesla's Radiant Energy Collector, by Eric Dollard. It makes a lot of sense to me, and I have long believed that one approach to Tito's system is feedback. This statement confirms it for me:Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWoLH21ITys&feature=player_detailpage#t=4678 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWoLH21ITys&feature=player_detailpage#t=4678)

I wonder if anyone can address this without resorting to attacking Eric Dollard at a personal level. ;D

Stay well, Teets!
Bob

Thanks bro. :D

Yes, That's is one way of amplification and that amplifies very fast. :D

There is actually a very safe amplification using only caps diode and coil. using ONE WAY! :) ;) 8)

That's it! i hope everyone will get it and its very easy. :)

Hope every one will be happy now for me cause that is very very near. ;)

i know you can do it everyone. ;)

i think its now time for me to apologize to everyone that i hurt. i'm sorry everyone. :)

God Bless everyone :)

There is power left? :D :D :D :o
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153414064599303

Tito L. Oracion. :)

LET'S WAIT ON SEPTEMBER 23,24 25 26 27 28 PROPHECY.
IT's EXCITING! ;) :D :) :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on September 18, 2015, 12:44:03 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 18, 2015, 02:17:46 AM

Thanks bro. :D

using ONE WAY! :) ;) 8)

]
Got it! Thanks Teets.
The fish video was hilarious. :)
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 19, 2015, 05:08:35 PM

You BET! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_jUtiKSf1Y

One way ticket and eruption.... :P ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D never coming back ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 19, 2015, 05:14:55 PM

be safe or runaway :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW3MR1q9osg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on September 20, 2015, 12:17:05 PM

Like the 70´s....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqu-2sZSNEc

the best... :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 20, 2015, 02:18:47 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPTFNh4t27c
:-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on September 20, 2015, 03:14:20 PM

Quote from: forest on September 20, 2015, 02:18:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPTFNh4t27c
:-*

It is what we take from this site ...
music for the soul ...
It is certainly not energy amplification ...

you are the best ... I appreciate it ... ;D ;D ;D
That´s all about, frees the soul and the body follows...
Wat for free energy, if you have health and friends ... enjoy life my friend ... :) :) :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on September 20, 2015, 03:18:21 PM

For Tito and is free one way 3 coils machine...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIzNEdrPQuE

engoy it and god bless ...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 21, 2015, 02:49:50 AM

The earth is moving, but I can't feel the ground [/font][/size] :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 21, 2015, 02:59:19 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_s98RJ54vM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on September 21, 2015, 05:23:32 PM

Hello All,

can we tune this circuit?? say q = 100 or more ( power in 100 watt, power in the tank circuit 10kw )

yes i know its not free energy yet!!

Thanks and Regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on September 22, 2015, 02:20:44 PM

Hi,

please, please forget the free energy for the moment!!

have two questions please:

* can we resonate that circuit?? ( paralell resonance )

if yes than how to design it for a high quality factor ( q= 100 or even 1000 )??

the simulator did not help much!!

Thanks & Regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on September 24, 2015, 07:06:20 PM

Hi,

please,
so we can resonate that circuit??

BUT

Unfortunately, this surplus is not (not)
Zéró energy??

is that correct??

Thnaks & Regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ralis420 on September 25, 2015, 09:24:24 AM

Anyone seen this one?
You will never need to purchase any batteries for ELFE. You simply turn him off and the Adgex Accumulator will recharge ELFEs energy levels to full.
http://trade.adgex.com.au/elfe

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 26, 2015, 05:14:23 AM

Quote from: idegen on September 25, 2015, 05:53:58 PM
no free energy
nowhere
loss is yes
correct? ;)

if you can remove the electricity then i will believe you. ;D :D

and if you could remove the word recycle then i will also. :D

or if you can make the empty space empty then your the one. :D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on September 26, 2015, 07:36:52 AM

Hi,

here an update of the circuit!!

question please:

is that the swich d4 required in that circuit?

Sir, can you simply answer my silly questions?

Thanks & Regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 28, 2015, 01:18:21 AM

Quote from: luc2010 on September 26, 2015, 07:36:52 AM
Hi,

here an update of the circuit!!

question please:

is that the swich d4 required in that circuit?

Sir, can you simply answer my silly questions?

Thanks & Regards
luc2010

You try to use you ohm meter if it is still needed ok. ;D

actually, we only need 3.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on October 01, 2015, 05:12:52 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 28, 2015, 01:18:21 AM

You try to use you ohm meter if it is still needed ok. ;D

actually, we only need 3.

Dear Tito
In what frequency ranges and duty cycle you are usually work your devices?

Thanks ;)
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 04, 2015, 07:06:01 PM

Quote from: Jeg on October 01, 2015, 05:12:52 AM
Dear Tito
In what frequency ranges and duty cycle you are usually work your devices?

Thanks ;)
Jeg

its between 200-300 hz. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on October 05, 2015, 12:41:48 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 04, 2015, 07:06:01 PM

its between 200-300 hz. :)

Thanks a lot Tito. I would expect KHz or even MHz range, but as it seems you use iron cores that perform better at these low frequencies. Keep the good work!

Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on October 05, 2015, 04:22:40 PM

Quote from: Jeg on October 01, 2015, 05:12:52 AM
Dear Tito
In what frequency ranges and duty cycle you are usually work your devices?

Thanks ;)
Jeg

And need a circuit in x type and the pulse of a diode ... tha's all ... ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 05, 2015, 07:10:44 PM

Quote from: zdiblo on October 05, 2015, 04:22:40 PM
And need a circuit in x type and the pulse of a diode ... tha's all ... ;)

is your circuit in X type need a PARENTAL GUIDANCE???? ;D

CAUSE I'M JUST USING AN i TYPE TRANSFORMER. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on October 06, 2015, 03:17:43 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 05, 2015, 07:10:44 PM

is your circuit in X type need a PARENTAL GUIDANCE???? ;D

CAUSE I'M JUST USING AN i TYPE TRANSFORMER. ;D

WHATEVER...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on October 17, 2015, 09:04:55 PM

Hello everybody, I'm new here and I have been reading this topic for more than 48 hrs.(patient with me english please) ;D
First, I want to thanks at all, especially to Tito and I've question about make a replay that you did, almost I've all, just some detail more. Ok, do you used permanent magnet in the coil? and do you used spark gag? Thanks and God continue bless you! ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 18, 2015, 10:06:02 PM

This is a good site! got it from bruce ;)
lots of info. yum yum yum. ;)

http://www.slideshare.net/pacodelamar52/battery-beads-making-bateras-tipo-perla-de-tecnologa-keshe (http://www.slideshare.net/pacodelamar52/battery-beads-making-bateras-tipo-perla-de-tecnologa-keshe)

Just a wild thinking:

what if we are going to replicate the storing energy use by the electric eel? :D

this is interesting tooo hmmmmmm. ;) :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTcw6NPn9BQ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 20, 2015, 05:00:06 AM

study is really fun ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh_aCAHThTQ&list=PLn8EyIca251tn05XXRLML_e5a4iOFIzeC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 22, 2015, 06:09:01 AM

interesting from magnetman ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKVK4rCVy7g

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 03, 2015, 05:52:16 AM

See its reality. The ice stone of tesla. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIraNL_FwPk

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on November 12, 2015, 05:16:24 AM

is this free energy circuit :-[
source : http://www.linux-host.org/energy/sgcarter.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 12, 2015, 09:42:57 PM

You know what!? >:(

Free energy is just like a pitcher pump or just a ram pump.

simpel as dat ok. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUTjVovpKvA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUTjVovpKvA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk9zs0EQIQ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk9zs0EQIQ8)
https://ph.images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A2oKmJMeTUVW4jsAK.2zRwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTE0dW9udDR2BGNvbG8Dc2czBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjAzMjdfMQRzZWMDcGl2cw--?p=ramp+pump+design&fr=yfp-t-712-s&fr2=piv-web#id=104&action=click&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.organicdesign.co.nz%2Ffiles%2F8%2F89%2FHydraram.gif (https://ph.images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A2oKmJMeTUVW4jsAK.2zRwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTE0dW9udDR2BGNvbG8Dc2czBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjAzMjdfMQRzZWMDcGl2cw--?p=ramp+pump+design&fr=yfp-t-712-s&fr2=piv-web#id=104&action=click&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.organicdesign.co.nz%2Ffiles%2F8%2F89%2FHydraram.gif)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on November 13, 2015, 04:50:54 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 12, 2015, 09:42:57 PM
You know what!? >:(

Free energy is just like a pitcher pump or just a ram pump.

Hello,

NO one try this ram pump idea before?

can this work using capacitor??? or only using coil?

Best Regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 13, 2015, 04:45:09 PM

You know what? >:(

The ram pump pumps only a small fraction of the water that enters it, the rest is discharged-- wasted-- through the openings above the floating valve at the far right side of the picture above. This wasted water is cleverly not shown in the picture but you can see the openings where it will be coming out.

If that's your concept of "free energy".... you are wasted, indeed.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 13, 2015, 08:36:07 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 13, 2015, 04:45:09 PM
You know what? >:(

The ram pump pumps only a small fraction of the water that enters it, the rest is discharged-- wasted-- through the openings above the floating valve at the far right side of the picture above. This wasted water is cleverly not shown in the picture but you can see the openings where it will be coming out.

If that's your concept of "free energy".... you are wasted, indeed.

What?!!!!! :o
YOU DIDN'T GOT WHAT I WAN A MEAN A SAY. :D ;D

Well, yes i expect that cause that has double meaning. hahahahahahhahahaha :D lol

If you will just analyze it, it can accumulate water higher from top of the source is it not.

Then......blah blah blah.................. :D :D :D ;D

its all self explanatory. :) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 13, 2015, 08:45:53 PM

Quote from: idegen on November 13, 2015, 06:08:08 PM
Francis would be easier to convince Pope: There is no god.
what this fool understand some simple things.

You know what!?
just by looking at the design of your hand, you can really smell that there is extreme genius GOD.

imagine your hand has a lot of purpose it can do. :o

is really the nature did that?,
oh, nature is really brilliant and genius isn't it?, even it has no brain. :o

Therefore then it says that nature is really thinking for what he is doing than you with brain who is not use to think. :o ??? :P ;D

did you got it buddy?, i know you don't. ;D sorry :D joke. ;)

otikitiks ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 16, 2015, 01:26:51 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 03, 2015, 05:52:16 AM
See its reality. The ice stone of tesla. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIraNL_FwPk

Excellent video illustration of the concept, Teets.
All it takes is one small discharge, cascading into larger ones through unidirectional pulses.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 16, 2015, 05:50:06 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on November 16, 2015, 01:26:51 PM
Excellent video illustration of the concept, Teets.
All it takes is one small discharge, cascading into larger ones through unidirectional pulses.
Bob

It is a very neat example of the thought. But where does the energy come from to reset the blocks? Does it take more to set them all back up again?

Its a bit tricky. Each block is 'set up' as stored energy because we had to set them that way to begin with. And then how they are set is in basically a balanced position where just a little push can set it off balance.

I dont think its a good model of what the quote actually is interpreted as electrically. But then again, is a snowball rolling 'down hill' any better? How did the water/snow get on the top of the hill? Or even on the hillside to eventually be gathered by the initial snow ball 'set and release'?

So it is probably just a simplified example, not actually the 'way' it is done electrically. I think.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 16, 2015, 08:48:29 PM

Mags,
The way I understand it, it's a cascade of discharges. No need to re-set the dominos, but I understand what you're saying. It's an analogy and has its limits.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 16, 2015, 10:19:18 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on November 16, 2015, 08:48:29 PM
Mags,
The way I understand it, it's a cascade of discharges. No need to re-set the dominos, but I understand what you're saying. It's an analogy and has its limits.
Bob

Exactly. Just sayin that the secret is not in the analogy.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 17, 2015, 01:47:03 AM

lets say In the last block, can we not make a lot of separate collectors and make a lot or unlimited small starts again? 8)

THEY ARE UNLIMITED ITS UP TO YOU WERE YOU WANT TO STOP. GOT IT BUDDIES?

Well, really lots of coils but so what if they can last up to 30 years or more. ;)

Then just series or parallel what ever you want then. :)

miss you guys. ;)
otits :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 17, 2015, 11:56:23 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 17, 2015, 05:17:11 PM

Quote from: forest on November 17, 2015, 11:56:23 AM
:P

Haha! Too funny! ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 17, 2015, 06:33:14 PM

del post

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 19, 2015, 01:11:24 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1MDOerruDU

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: l0stf0x on November 19, 2015, 03:47:34 AM

Hi Tito,
I saw your first (starting) mesage of this thread, and also I jumped and read some pages from the 490 pages, but I couldn't find the objective, or any other specific invention.. and the good thing is that you are here still posting.

Can you please direct me to the key page (objective) of this thread.. thank you :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 19, 2015, 06:09:54 PM

Actually BRO., ENERGY AMPLIFICATION is a general information of amplification from everything, i think we can start from the smallest part of a particle up to the sky way of the universe. :o ;D :D

We also studying here beyond life or the spirit technology. got it bro? :D ;D
it seems that you are lost fox aren't you?, :D ;D

ampifiedtits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wistiti on November 19, 2015, 07:10:31 PM

Hi Tito.
i am in the same place as l0stf0x.
I think it will help many of us "the real interested in change folks" if you want to share with us an easy "diy" way to do...
Just some kind of tutorial that a persone how almost know nothing in electronic can folow and do.
I beleve it is possible and i also beleve this is the way to go...
Anyway, thankyou for the time you give to us...
:0)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 20, 2015, 01:06:14 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 19, 2015, 06:09:54 PM
Actually BRO., ENERGY AMPLIFICATION is a general information of amplification from everything

Probably a bad choice of words to say that 'energy amplification is general information'.

Amplifiers as we know them take a small signal and convert them into large signals. But, the actual amplifier needs larger power in just to make it function than what comes out of the output of the amp.

To have the amplifier do its intended job using less 'energy' in than what is output is not general information to say the least.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 20, 2015, 02:29:14 AM

You just need to understand why Tesla spent so many years on make&break controller. It's extremally hard to replicate using common mode electronics. Ruslan has given a nice way to follow, but still it's too hard for many including me. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 20, 2015, 02:31:11 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 20, 2015, 01:06:14 AM
Probably a bad choice of words to say that 'energy amplification is general information'.

Amplifiers as we know them take a small signal and convert them into large signals. But, the actual amplifier needs larger power in just to make it function than what comes out of the output of the amp.

To have the amplifier do its intended job using less 'energy' in than what is output is not general information to say the least.

Mags

lol, wrong choice of meaning,
What i mean is info. in anything that can amplified. :D
You mean to say energy amplification can only be use in electronics?, i don't think so. :-\

in tesla way of thinking, amplification is not the same as what you wrote.
it start in small power and convert it into large power using outside power but started from signal actually. got it buddy? :D ;) ;D 8) :P

And yes, everything can probably wrong to someone if you have some regrets to him, Bingo!!! ;D :P :P :P joke

miss you mags :D

wrong choice of otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 20, 2015, 02:35:44 AM

Quote from: forest on November 20, 2015, 02:29:14 AM
You just need to understand why Tesla spent so many years on make&break controller. It's extremally hard to replicate using common mode electronics. Ruslan has given a nice way to follow, but still it's too hard for many including me. :(

if we follow tesla without knowing the "way" we probably go to destructing a lot of things. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 20, 2015, 03:19:40 AM

Quote from: wistiti on November 19, 2015, 07:10:31 PM
Hi Tito.
i am in the same place as l0stf0x.
I think it will help many of us "the real interested in change folks" if you want to share with us an easy "diy" way to do...
Just some kind of tutorial that a persone how almost know nothing in electronic can folow and do.
I beleve it is possible and i also beleve this is the way to go...
Anyway, thankyou for the time you give to us...
:0)

Well, that is a kind and humble comment. i like it bro. and that's more better than others.
and that makes me think. :)

wishtotits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 20, 2015, 03:34:28 AM

bye amigos, i'll rest for awhile, i don't want some quarreling anymore, tired of it. :-* ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 20, 2015, 11:08:46 PM

Quote from: idegen on November 20, 2015, 04:55:34 PM
Rest well !
old fox. ;)
Sincerely ... the little fox: Vuk :)

Oh ya thanks.

for your info. i'm the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy mags dog. ;D
and sorry i'm not old ok? :D ;D

foxtit ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 20, 2015, 11:58:00 PM

Maybe I'm wrong, but maybe I'm right...
What happens when you put a zener diode across a capacitor? You get a pulse, I think. And it all starts with a pulse.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 21, 2015, 01:00:55 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 20, 2015, 11:08:46 PM

Oh ya thanks.

for your info. i'm the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy mags dog. ;D
and sorry i'm not old ok? :D ;D

foxtit ;D

Lazy mags? You preach a lot here. Where in the bible does it teach you how to insult others, just for the fun of it? ::)

I could call you a liar about your claims. And not one page here can prove me otherwise. Thats a fact.

Yeah. Bye Bye Tito. And I mean it here n now. Not like you.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 23, 2015, 04:34:53 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 21, 2015, 01:00:55 AM
Lazy mags? You preach a lot here. Where in the bible does it teach you how to insult others, just for the fun of it? ::)

I could call you a liar about your claims. And not one page here can prove me otherwise. Thats a fact.

Yeah. Bye Bye Tito. And I mean it here n now. Not like you.

Mags

Sorry buddy i was referring to your dog, i forgot the apostrophe in your name "mag's dog"
And thats a joke okay.

See that is your way of reading and how you see me about the past , just pick and pick and not knowing the whole story. ;)

i think i have to teach you buddy.
To know things of the past, you have to read and understand the whole cenaryo first before diving into a conclusion right? and thats a fact about you. ;D

do not mix the Bible in joking okay! >:(

That is what i miss in you buddy :D , your so sensitive. :D

anyway i still understand you cause you are still my friend ok?

mag's Tit ;D joke again! :D ;D :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 24, 2015, 04:42:04 PM

I am still waiting for Tito to grow up.

The love you take is equal to the love you make.

How much love have you made Tito?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 25, 2015, 12:55:37 AM

THIS ONE IS FOR THE ALMIGHTY MILEHIGH SO THAT HE CAN POKE
AT.. WITH HIS GENIUS UNDERSTANDING OF IT ALL.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_EmpBso3Fw

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on November 25, 2015, 04:12:05 AM

It will cost you $69 USD to download my video explaining the secrets for the saving of the world!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 25, 2015, 04:49:02 AM

Oh yeah? Well you can have this for free.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 25, 2015, 07:27:56 AM

That is good micromhigh. Now get to magnets and stick both magnets with
opposing poles outside the shaking torch and observe the difference in how
quicker it will charge up when you shake the torch,,But this torch it can be improved
with two magnets each with opposing poles facing each other ,to replace the one
magnet inside the tube..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 25, 2015, 07:42:32 AM

THIS is also for MICROMHIGH SO THAT HE COULD DIGEST WHAT IS GOING
ON..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 25, 2015, 07:48:07 AM

THIS IS a description of layout of the FIGAMAGIG..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 25, 2015, 08:07:52 AM

AGAIN FOR MICROMLOW. WORLD SAVER2

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 25, 2015, 08:11:09 AM

You always make me proud TK. Thanks again. For this great circuit..
But it will not beat the DR STIFFLER CIRCUIT..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MileHigh on November 25, 2015, 02:40:16 PM

Quote from: seychelles on November 25, 2015, 08:07:52 AM
AGAIN FOR MICROMLOW. WORLD SAVER2

I think you would be better off selling sea shells by the sea shore.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 25, 2015, 08:52:24 PM

MICROMLOW AND INDEGEN SHOULD GET TOGETHER
YOU TWO MAKE A NICE COUPLE..BY THE WAY MICROMLOW DO
YOU WANT TO BUY SOME SEA SHELLS FROM SEYCHELLES. THAT WILL
BE $69.95..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 25, 2015, 09:14:49 PM

FOR ALL TO TEST .THIS IS A WAY TO INCREASE AN ELECTROMAGNET
BY USING PERMANENT MAGNET..AND FOR MICROMLOW TO POKE AT..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 26, 2015, 05:24:12 AM

i think by adding a parallel coil will add up some more amplification in volts and current. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 26, 2015, 07:32:29 PM

JUST use our imagination now where this idea BELOW can be used. 1 in the stator of any
dc series or shunt motor 2 pulse motor 2 in generator 3 in magnetic lifters
4 IN MAGNETIC AMPLIFIERS 5 in MY CRESCENDO
MEG..UNLIMITED WAYS TO USE IT.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 26, 2015, 07:44:09 PM

A great invention using magnetic amplification.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on November 27, 2015, 07:23:45 AM

when the "scalar voltage" is so high, that the current starts to flow around the outside of the wire, 90 DEGREES TO IT'S NORMAL FLOW.

Quite often it will burn the coating right off the wire if the current can't find any where to go and the pulse is high enough. I can't do it electronically, but I can do it mechanically, and with only one pulse. NO resonance at all. Magnification of both amperage and voltage. :-*

is this true TITO ??????????

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on November 27, 2015, 08:24:07 AM

Quote from: seychelles on November 26, 2015, 07:44:09 PM
A great invention using magnetic amplification.

I really don't understand how he could have gotten that patent granted. Almost all of his devices shown in that patent have been in use for many years. I was working on those magnetic bases like his back in the 1980's. He has just copied others work and reapplied for a patent on those devices. Besides the magnetic base for use with an indicator we had magnetic tables that were about 1 foot by 3 foot that worked on the same principle. It was purely mechanical with an arm that you moved back and forth to move a set of magnets to turn the table magnetic field on and off. I really did not see anything new in that patent. What part of the patent did you see as a great invention?

If you live near a machine shop you can go there and see those magnetic bases and tables in use. If you live near a Harbor Freight company store you can get one of the magnetic bases to take apart or examine. Or you could order one online.

Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 27, 2015, 09:17:46 AM

Well i was impressed with the motor really. I would say that this motor should be
very efficient..don't you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on November 27, 2015, 10:07:15 AM

Quote from: seychelles on November 27, 2015, 09:17:46 AM
Well i was impressed with the motor really. I would say that this motor should be
very efficient..don't you.

I am not so sure the motor will be any more efficient than a conventional stepper motor. To cancel the magnetic field by electromagnet will require as strong of a magnetic field as the magnet has. So it will require a fair amount of power to do that. There may be some gain from trying to switch the flux from through the coil to through the rotor. That is an interesting idea that I am pretty sure has been done before. Building one to experiment with should not be too hard if you have access to a milling machine and lathe. I think it could even be done with hand tools and a lot of patience. Are you planning to build one or just throwing the idea out for consideration and thought?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on November 27, 2015, 01:30:03 PM

Jack was a member of this forum for some years. We helped him finance the patent but then he passed away and I have never been able to find any family members that might know where his devices are.

You can look him up on this forum and I have saved some of his stuff on my FTP site here
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Inventors/Jack-W-Hildenbrand/

Although we never had the opportunity to formally run and measure his motors, in all the "purported" OU devices I have seen during the many years on this forum, his was the only one I could openly say had 99.99% chance of being truly OU. If I remember correctly his smaller motor used around 200 watts to run and produced 750 watts of torque.

But in order to try and build this, a person needs to be a top machinist like him.

If anyone has the time to hunt down his family and see who inherited all his devices, and, report back here, it would be a very good deed for the posterity of the OU effort.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on November 27, 2015, 02:30:47 PM

Torque is not measured in Watts.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: minnie on November 27, 2015, 04:16:38 PM

Yes Watts,
overunity is measured in watts of TALK, not torque!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on November 27, 2015, 04:33:14 PM

@TK

It all boils down to torque.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: minnie on November 27, 2015, 04:49:54 PM

Joke.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on November 27, 2015, 05:11:20 PM

Quote from: wattsup on November 27, 2015, 01:30:03 PM
Jack was a member of this forum for some years. We helped him finance the patent but then he passed away and I have never been able to find any family members that might know where his devices are.

You can look him up on this forum and I have saved some of his stuff on my FTP site here
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Inventors/Jack-W-Hildenbrand/ (http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Inventors/Jack-W-Hildenbrand/)

Although we never had the opportunity to formally run and measure his motors, in all the "purported" OU devices I have seen during the many years on this forum, his was the only one I could openly say had 99.99% chance of being truly OU. If I remember correctly his smaller motor used around 200 watts to run and produced 750 watts of torque.

But in order to try and build this, a person needs to be a top machinist like him.

If anyone has the time to hunt down his family and see who inherited all his devices, and, report back here, it would be a very good deed for the posterity of the OU effort.

wattsup

I think I am going to have to reconsider my opinion about his motor. He did some beautiful machine work. If his motors ran as well as they looked they were works of art. Thanks for providing that link wattsup.

I do think a small milling machine and lathe could make the version 1 of his motor shown in one of the pictures you saved and also shown in the patent. Machining the laminations would be a bit of a challenge but with careful work it could be done. It is done every day in industry.

Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: minnie on November 27, 2015, 05:18:05 PM

I remember Jack, he was one of the only people that I've come across that I
thought might be getting somewhere.
His machining and construction was exemplary but at the end of the day
nothing positive seemed to come from it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 27, 2015, 08:18:33 PM

Using the same idea we can change it into a MEG..
NOW THAT DOES NOT TAKE A LOT OF MACHINING .
Even my good GUM LEAVE EATING CREATURE can easily
wire this up in an afternoon after a hot cup of tea.
The reason i am not doing these great experiment i
am broke and unemployed at the moment..SO the winner
takes it all..AND I AM AT THE MERCY OF MY DARLING DICTATOR
WIFE WHO HAS EVEN ORDERED ME NOT TO VENTURE IN
MY OWN GARAGE TO RESEARCH OF THE HOLY GRAIL..GO
FIGURE IT IS HER WAY OR THE HIGHWAY I AM WORKING
ON THE HIGHWAY PART..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 27, 2015, 08:32:18 PM

INDEGEN DO YOU REMEMBER THE STORY ABOUT THE GENIE
WHEN HE CAME OUT OF THE BOTTLE HE SAID IN A BIG LOUD
VOICE YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND. Just look at this circuit
and tell me where is the genie.. It of course the p magnet..The
flux of these two magnets is SHUNTED through the ferrite or iron
core but when power is applied to the electromagnet KABANG THE
GENIE COMES OUT OF THE BOTTLE TO ACCOMPLISH YOUR WISH..
AND OF COURSE YOUR ARE NOT A MONKEY. GOD GIVEN IMAGINATION
IS YOUR MOST WONDERFUL GIFT PLEASE USE IT FROM THEN ON..
THANK YOU ..SOOORY FOR USING CAPS BUT I LIKE IT THAT WAY..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 28, 2015, 07:17:06 AM

Quote from: tim energy on November 27, 2015, 07:23:45 AM
when the "scalar voltage" is so high, that the current starts to flow around the outside of the wire, 90 DEGREES TO IT'S NORMAL FLOW.

Quite often it will burn the coating right off the wire if the current can't find any where to go and the pulse is high enough. I can't do it electronically, but I can do it mechanically, and with only one pulse. NO resonance at all. Magnification of both amperage and voltage. :-*

is this true TITO ??? ??? ??? ?

I don't know buddy. :o ;D [size=78%] [/size] :D
why don't you share some scheme.
the floor is open to you.
Lets scruitinize it. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: br549 on November 28, 2015, 03:49:41 PM

Quote from: seychelles on November 27, 2015, 08:18:33 PM
Using the same idea we can change it into a MEG..
NOW THAT DOES NOT TAKE A LOT OF MACHINING .
Even my good GUM LEAVE EATING CREATURE can easily
wire this up in an afternoon after a hot cup of tea.

seychelles:
This stuff is simular to Flynn's Parallel Path Technology. http://overunity.com/828/flynns-parallel-path/#.Vln9btKrTmU I have worked through the proof of concept experiments and built several solid state devices. There is indeed a magnetic amplification of around 4 in Flynn's device. Like anything else, the trick is being able to figure out how to tap the excess energy. In the solid state devices I built (simulator to your drawing above, with out the rotor (Flynn's Parallel Path Concept) using laminations from standard (60 HZ) transformers and Neos, the big problem was Lenz's law. Once the core was magnetized one direction, I had to overcome It before magnetizing the core in the Opposite direction. Might be able to overcome some of that problem through the geometry of the core, and core material, maybe routing the push-back flux around the main path, maybe some fancy switch timing. The motor concept seems like it might be a little more straight forward as far a getting some excess energy (torque) out. I believe I have seen a calculation (online calculator) somewhere to convert between torque and horsepower. If you convert it to H.P. then to watts. In kind of a nutshell, The electronic version would be great, if you can beat Linz's Law, otherwise the mechanical motor might show better results. I have been working on a motor design in my spare time, but not there yet :-\. Good luck in all of your Endeavors.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 28, 2015, 10:20:59 PM

Hi this is another great idea.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 28, 2015, 10:54:36 PM

I AM SOORY BUT THESE GREAT IDEAS KEEP POPPING IN MY HEAD
I JUST HAVE TO SHARE IT WITH YOU ALL..THIS IS THE ETHER
PUMP ALIAS ELECTRICAL GENERATOR.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 29, 2015, 12:12:42 AM

IMPROVEMENT OF THE SUPER ETHER PUMP..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 29, 2015, 08:55:46 AM

I need some help here please. Just wanted to know
where will it be more efficient to power this FLYWHEEL
FROM THE OUTSIDE REAM OR FROM THE SHAFT . AND please
let me know why..THANKS GUYS..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 29, 2015, 09:18:08 AM

I CAN NOT HELP MYSELF I HAVE TO IMPROVE MY OWN DESIGN
AGAIN SOORY..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 30, 2015, 11:12:43 PM

Another SUPER ALTERNATOR WITH OPPOSING POLES
RARE EARTH MAGNETS

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on November 30, 2015, 11:24:10 PM

PLEASE STOP ME I JUST COME UP WITH THESE IDEAS..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 30, 2015, 11:51:38 PM

Probably an informative help,# 5329
http://overunity.com/2794/the-lee-tseung-lead-out-theory/5325/#.Vl0np7809UA

There is the way to amplify and the way to neutralize/shield magnetic force fields,
depends from temporary machine process dis-/advantage !

More literature : Charles Flynn and by the patent publication from the deceased Dr. Keith Kenyon.

With my kindest regard
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on December 03, 2015, 08:33:43 AM

SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on December 03, 2015, 04:02:51 PM

Quote from: idegen on December 03, 2015, 02:30:21 PM
Hi!
"These things do not work"
SORRY!
It's the truth...

You sound like a broken record.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on December 03, 2015, 11:04:37 PM

BUT WHY IS IT BULLSHIT EDEGEN, IS IT BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT,
OR YOU ARE JEALOUS YOU DID NOT THINK ABOUT IT FIRST OR YOU ARE JUST HERE
LIKE A VAMPIRE TO SUCK UP ANY GREAT IDEAS AND MAKE GOOD USE OF IT YOURSELF.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on December 05, 2015, 06:58:55 AM

I AM ALIVE, I AM OF GOD, I AM PURE, I AM DIVINE,
I AM PERFECT AND I AM EVER GRATEFUL FOR THE PRIVILEGE
OF EXISTENCE. FOR I WAS CREATED BY GOD IN HIS IMAGE.
ANOTHER GREAT IDEA FOR ALL TO SHARE..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 05, 2015, 08:11:45 PM

Quote from: idegen on December 05, 2015, 05:01:33 PM
the way you want
so be it
God ;)

The way you talk and write, i can see and conclude that you don't believe in God and Free energy, write?

Now!!!! >:( , Why are you still here, You hypocrite!!!!. >:( >:( >:(

if you don't believe why wasting your energy here? write? ??? :-\ ;D

Looking for something? :D ;D

idetot ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 05, 2015, 08:26:42 PM

Whant to see some real thing?, okay here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWcAS2V-cDY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWcAS2V-cDY)

https://www.facebook.com/lory.rodz.3/videos/351500838326621/

You know what?, you must know how to see truths in reality. 8)

:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on December 06, 2015, 08:47:56 PM

REITERATION OF THE LAST DRAWING OF AC MEG.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on December 09, 2015, 07:47:45 PM

Something to ponder upon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIraNL_FwPk

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on December 09, 2015, 09:49:09 PM

WILL THERE BE AN OUTPUT?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on December 09, 2015, 10:13:46 PM

WILL THERE BE AN OUTPUT NOW WITH TWO EXTERNAL NIB MAGNETS
AS SHOWN.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 10, 2015, 12:15:08 PM

I found this for one member of overunity.com I just think, Is this that circuit of Tito and that our friend Mag has been looking for. Maybe YES, and put the gril out, maybe YES, is you have dout ask to stup....?12 :-X

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 28, 2015, 09:10:18 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuZPQrs227Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuZPQrs227Q)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PiZWSkVVu8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PiZWSkVVu8)

Something on five batteries hmmmmmmmmm 8) love it. ;)
i think i'll try it in caps. 8)
;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 30, 2015, 09:49:25 PM

Quote from: idegen on December 30, 2015, 06:54:27 PM
Interdictory
Tito ;)old warrior
outstanding player
Your dominated pathetic situation?
WHY?
Do you think there free energy?
overunity ?
ENERGY AMPLIFICATION? ???

HOW TO DO? ???

Ya i'm a WARRIOR and you're a WAR FREAK ;D
WHAT A CO-ACCIDENCE. JOKE. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 28, 2016, 02:53:12 AM

Since we are all searching for truth,
PLEEEEEEEEEEEZE WATCH IT. ITS FOR YOUR OWN SAKE
JESUS COMES VERY SOON. :o

"LIFE IS NOT A PARALLEL OF CHANCES BUT A SERIES OF CHOICES" ;)

:) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmiH89xWZ0Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmiH89xWZ0Q)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on January 28, 2016, 09:51:14 AM

Tito:
I'm already saved. And there is no Hell. Hell, is just a bad joke.
Ask any one that you think is dead. There is no death, either. Just eternal life. Like it or not. For everyone.

How many years are you going to keep your device a secret, and continue wasting every ones time with your comments.

Or is the real secret, that you don't really have anything to show, but more HINTS, and more hints, and more useless hints....
Like an empty mouse trap catching nothing.

You are the one that needs saving from your own demise. Save the world, there's lot of people that need a free energy device.
If you only had one...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 28, 2016, 01:51:15 PM

The only people who need to be saved are LIARS who claim to have free energy devices but do not -- and then DECEIVE people and waste their time by giving out useless tips.
Such people are cited in the Bible as the DECEIVERS.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 28, 2016, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 28, 2016, 01:51:15 PM
The only people who need to be saved are LIARS who claim to have free energy devices but do not -- and then DECEIVE people and waste their time by giving out useless tips.
Such people are cited in the Bible as the DECEIVERS.

Just take it as a big lesson learned. For all of us that hung in there. The ones that had gone through this sort of long term stride before had told everyone near the beginning.
So we are the next generation. lol

Still fiddling here n there. Just cant put the time into it all like I used to. Was hurting me financially, mentally, etc, etc. I just dont have that crazy excited feeling from it any more. But I still have something inside that says to pursue further, here n there. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NoyPi on January 29, 2016, 10:47:30 PM

@a.king21

Please do forgive him, if he acted this way.. This is his personality. But I do admire his knowledge, for a short period
of time he manage to understand the idea and be able implement in on his DC-AC inverter. I have seen it and what can it do.

Its true he has free energy device.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on January 30, 2016, 12:59:10 AM

Quote from: NoyPi on January 29, 2016, 10:47:30 PM
@a.king21

Please do forgive him, if he acted this way.. This is his personality. But I do admire his knowledge, for a short period
of time he manage to understand the idea and be able implement in on his DC-AC inverter. I have seen it and what can it do.

Its true he has free energy device.

Prove it. You won't, because you cannot.

And I know why... and so do you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NoyPi on January 30, 2016, 03:55:01 AM

@TK
I have great respect to you sir, I dont want to offend anyone here. But i knew what I saw. I even measured voltage from time to time. And it seems his battery never lose a charge while the load was connected. In fact it charge itself. I was there when he conduct demos.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on January 30, 2016, 10:34:55 AM

"Demos": Would make things more credible...
What's the point of it all? Christian Greed, perhaps.
No demos for us? Just for money, and fame.
While we just get more stupid hints...
Thanks Tito, and to all those still holding out.
Jessssssssssssss...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on January 30, 2016, 01:26:52 PM

Quote from: NoyPi on January 30, 2016, 03:55:01 AM
@TK
I have great respect to you sir, I dont want to offend anyone here. But i knew what I saw. I even measured voltage from time to time. And it seems his battery never lose a charge while the load was connected. In fact it charge itself. I was there when he conduct demos.

"Battery voltage" is not energy. Anyone who has been in this quest for any length of time has seen many devices that _appear_ to "charge itself" because the run battery voltage creeps upward. And big Lead-Acid batteries can power devices with small current demand for a _long_ time before any drop in terminal voltage is apparent. All these devices eventually run down though. If they didn't... John Bedini would be a billionaire and we would all be running our homes on Bedini SGMs or something similar.

But at least Bedini has the stones to produce public demos and publish circuits.

--And that's even _before_ we start considering outright trickery and fraud instead of simple mistakes and poor measurements and self-delusion.--

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on January 30, 2016, 04:47:43 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on January 30, 2016, 01:26:52 PM
"Battery voltage" is not energy. Anyone who has been in this quest for any length of time has seen many devices that _appear_ to "charge itself" because the run battery voltage creeps upward. And big Lead-Acid batteries can power devices with small current demand for a _long_ time before any drop in terminal voltage is apparent. All these devices eventually run down though. If they didn't... John Bedini would be a billionaire and we would all be running our homes on Bedini SGMs or something similar.

But at least Bedini has the stones to produce public demos and publish circuits.

--And that's even _before_ we start considering outright trickery and fraud instead of simple mistakes and poor measurements and self-delusion.--

Sorry to give you a hard time but found this want to work your way through this one ?

www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=590.0;...

Magnetic Field Transformer (MFT) - OverUnity Research

AG

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NoyPi on January 30, 2016, 10:41:42 PM

@TK
I totally respect your opinion, I just keep my word from now. thanks for the comments.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 31, 2016, 02:35:22 PM

Quote from: NoyPi on January 30, 2016, 10:41:42 PM
@TK
I totally respect your opinion, I just keep my word from now. thanks for the comments.

I've wasted 5 years of my life chasing this stuff. You simply can not see the obvious.
Any free energy device is a product.
Products need funding and certification.
In the UK you can get a PROPER 4 kw free energy product called solar panels; fully installed and CE certified and with a 20 year guarantee for the cost of between 5.5 to 6 thousand pounds. (About 8,000 USD).They are also linked to the national grid and we get paid for the electricity we produce.

They have no moving parts and they work 100%.
Here is a link as an example

http://www.121energy.com/4kw-solar-pv-system-installed-uk-wide-5495-inc-vat.html (http://www.121energy.com/4kw-solar-pv-system-installed-uk-wide-5495-inc-vat.html)

I am a Christian and I do not tell lies, unlike other so-called Christians who tell others to get "saved" whilst they DECEIVE.

In the Bible they are known as HYPOCRITES and for them is reserved the HARSHEST punishment.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NoyPi on January 31, 2016, 08:28:20 PM

@A.king21

Well I've been a member of OU 6 years ago and still cant get it. And I don't care if it takes my whole life
because this is the path I choose.. And I don't want anyone to blame for that. We have our own personality,
Some are driven by there personal interest and only few give tips and hints. But no matter what they do, its
our own understanding that's matter.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 01, 2016, 05:00:18 AM

:( :( :(
I feel so sad about the previous comments but its okay and i understand all of that buddy. :(

What i just want to share from the deepest part of my heart is to let you know about JESUS. :(

What i see now is that, what ever i do weather it is good or bad its just the same effect to everyone. :(
it just makes me feel lonely, i think its not fun anymore here. :(

sorry for everything everyone, this is me the real me. :(

Sorry for my attitude, i think thats part of growing in me, please bear with me ok, i apologize. :(

i've been always true to everyone, i'm just making everything exciting ok. :(

you can say what ever you want i will not fight anymore, for that is not the real me ok. :)

i think thats it, take care all friends. even your mad at me you are still my friends, my best friends. :(

God Bless everyone :)

i cannot respond very frequent cause i'm busy with my five batteries experiment. :)

The secret actually is not found in the book and you can only see this through simple experiments,
really a tricky thing to understand but its actually nothing because it just very basic. ;) 8) :)

TESLA ONLY USE CAPS COILS AND SOME MOVEMENTS THEN WHAT WILL YOU EXPECT? ??? ??? OFF COURSE ITS JUST VERY SIMPLE ARRANGEMENT OK!!! ;)

and i believe that many knows it already. :)

some videos of Tinman are missing, why? because................. ;D

BYE EVERYONE HAPPY NEW YEAR
GOD BLESS. :-*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oljdd9BGrFc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oljdd9BGrFc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH25K5oyarw

otits :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on February 01, 2016, 08:11:31 AM

@TK

QuoteBut at least Bedini has the stones to produce public demos and publish circuits. [/size]--And that's even _before_ we start considering outright trickery and fraud instead of simple mistakes and poor measurements and self-delusion.--

Everyone has their own personal flavor of self-delusion I think. One man may work his whole life only to find he is broke, one man may put his faith in the company he works for only to find they have stolen his dreams and another man may put his faith in God only to be hit by a car full of drunken prostitutes while crossing the street going to church. The only ones who are truly insane are the ones who think they are not in some way...we all have are own demons.

If money is the root of all evil then why is the church always asking us for more?. Our existence is a scam my friend we just have to see it for what it is rather than what we believe it is...we could do worse.

It is not the end that matters so much because no matter how much wealth we possess, no matter how much we have accomplished, no matter how many people we have touched we will die and be forgotten just like everyone else...ashes to ashes dust to dust. It is the journey that matters and if in some small way those people we call delusional and crazy can inspire others to enjoy their journey a little more then that is not so bad...we could do worse.

In the end a man without purpose is not a man, he is a hollow shell of non-existence, the walking dead going through futile motions. If a man does not have purpose, dreams of better things, better times, better places then I would suggest they find it in whatever form it may take.

Personally I do not look to other people I look to the stars and on a clear, calm night I can see eternity. Trillions of distant galaxies, trillions upon trillions of stars and planets and moons and possibly millions upon millions of other civilizations screaming through the cosmos at horrific velocities and out of this. Out of all of this which we cannot even begin to imagine... not a single one of them cares what you may think or believe.
Strange but true.

AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on February 01, 2016, 09:00:32 AM

Tito:
You feel bad? I would too, if I were holding out.
You think that that is what Jesus would do??????????? Keeping a secret from the world, that's dying for it.
You want to feel good, not lonely, and mentally disturbed? Then spill the beans, Sir.
Easy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on February 01, 2016, 02:52:37 PM

Smoke and mirrors, wisps in the wind seldom if ever are we who we appear to be. Why do you taunt and condemn as the truth slowly trickles away through your fingers?. You may take comfort in knowing some one may come sooner rather than later and when they do they will be recognized as something you and most others can never be. Not by accident, not ordained or by force but by choice.

The world is dying because that is something they have chosen to do however this will not always be the case. We are always at our best after we have seen the worst and it's just around the corner my friend... just around the corner.

AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 01, 2016, 08:52:02 PM

I think the principles in Tito's setup are fairly simple, starting with the principle behind a crystal radio. Scale up the capacitor's discharge using caps and diodes, then step down the output. I haven't built it, but these are the principles I see over and over again. Last thing - I'm quite sure this is an open system. I think Teets has actually been pretty generous with his guidance, despite all the attacks he's received.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 02, 2016, 12:17:33 AM

Quote from: allcanadian on February 01, 2016, 02:52:37 PM
Smoke and mirrors, wisps in the wind seldom if ever are we who we appear to be. Why do you taunt and condemn as the truth slowly trickles away through your fingers?. You may take comfort in knowing some one may come sooner rather than later and when they do they will be recognized as something you and most others can never be. Not by accident, not ordained or by force but by choice.

The world is dying because that is something they have chosen to do however this will not always be the case. We are always at our best after we have seen the worst and it's just around the corner my friend... just around the corner.

AC

Words of wisdom.
It is our collective, our endurance, our ability to preserve in the face of infinite adversity..... that draws them to us.
They think we do not understand their self deluded boundaries placed upon them by their own indoctrinated education.
When, in truth, it is they who lack the comprehension to see beyond these boundaries.
Which are put in place, solely for economic means to and end. And have little to do with the reality of physics.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on February 03, 2016, 04:52:28 AM

I have seen the future and they are not us, but an inherent part of us. Generation Z is coming into their own and what I see in them is like nothing I have ever seen before. Have any here actually listened to them, I mean really listened to them on their terms?. They process information at the speed of light, they can spot the BS from decrepit old minds from a mile away and they have more information at their disposal and know where to find it unlike any other time in the history of mankind. They could not think as slow as anyone here if their life depended on it and they are the game changers.

As well many parents have resorted to drugging their children with Ritalin in hopes they might become more like themselves... stupid. However they have confused hyperactivity and a lack of focus on school work with the fact that the children have recognized the teachers are basically morons. Z kids can absorb more new, more relevant information in one day than we learned in a month of school. As well what they call Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder is not an attention deficite but an attention surplus and they have recognized that most adults say one thing then do another and are essentially brain dead... hence the rejection of antiquated beliefs and hyper activity. I also get a little hyper when slow people who couldn't think there way out of a wet paper bag start dictating terms to me... I can only imagine how they feel.

As such I do not see free energy as that big of a deal because the next generation is going to do miraculous shit we could not possibly understand. Abundant Free Energy is a given the question is when and to what extent?. Don't get me wrong I understand most old people think nothing is going to change and free energy is impossible but its actually very easy. Look 10-15 years out when full spectrum solar panels output 600w/m^2 and the new paper/salt/carbon batteries with 20x the capacity of Li-Ion which recharge in minutes come into force. Problem is we will never get there because it will all be obsolete in 2 years...see the trend?. We are just entering a new technology revolution where technology moves at the speed of light. A Free Energy device... whatever... who cares?, our perception of what we thought FE was supposed to mean is meaningless because new technology is going to steam roll right over it in under ten years.

Now the downside... the economy is going to implode on itself because whole sectors of old technology are going the way of the dodo bird. If you have stocks and apply the old addage to hold them long term then your screwed. No this is not going to get better, no it's not business as usual, it's going to implode upon itself and they tell me it starts around right about now 2016. We are just seeing the tip of a very large iceberg with people from the geriatric ward at the helm and it's not going to end well short term. It's called the Exponential Growth of Knowledge and were going vertical in a major way.
The future is very bright in my opinion however it's going to get a little bumpy kids... better buckle up.

AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Hoppy on February 03, 2016, 06:38:20 AM

Yes, our kids know only too well how sick our governments are and put two fingers up at them. They have little respect for authority because they know its seriously corrupted. They will find their own way in life having been raised with little opportunity or wish to join the rat race. We thought the world was in need of a people's revolution in the 60's but its now well overdue. The future will be bright without the new world order. We were the spoilt generation that let the world become the sorry state its in now.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on February 03, 2016, 09:49:29 AM

Where is the free energy machine?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 01, 2016, 09:45:18 PM

https://www.facebook.com/prophetngwenya.ngwenya/videos/868972919883958/ (https://www.facebook.com/prophetngwenya.ngwenya/videos/868972919883958/)

Logic my friend, You only need logic to be save . 8)

And Acceptance. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dog-One on March 01, 2016, 10:27:06 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 01, 2016, 09:45:18 PM
https://www.facebook.com/prophetngwenya.ngwenya/videos/868972919883958/ (https://www.facebook.com/prophetngwenya.ngwenya/videos/868972919883958/)

Logic my friend, You only need logic to be save . 8)

And Acceptance. :)

Suppose I was able to prove Jesus had no navel. Would logic tell you who his creator must have been? Couldn't have been Mariam. Or could it?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 02, 2016, 01:24:21 AM

Quote from: Dog-One on March 01, 2016, 10:27:06 PM
Suppose I was able to prove Jesus had no navel. Would logic tell you who his creator must have been? Couldn't have been Mariam. Or could it?

Wow, Let's here then your proof so that i may learn from you and see the deepness of your logic. proceed my friend.............. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dog-One on March 02, 2016, 01:42:36 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 02, 2016, 01:24:21 AM
Wow, Let's here then your proof so that i may learn from you and see the deepness of your logic. proceed my friend.............. :)

:)

Good answer, however let's use this as a mathematical formula. If you have X, calculate Y. Then at some point in the future, if we discover Y = Image (http://www.rense.com/general96/Valiantclsp.jpg), you should be able to immediately resolve X.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on March 02, 2016, 03:17:06 AM

Ok here is something for you to puzzle, when Jesus spend 40 days in wilderness without food ect Satan takes Jesus to high place and Lucifer offers Jesus all Lucifers kingdoms of the world. (bible says so), one assumes the earth and planets in it's entirety belong to Satan.

( if you have a problem with that, why has Saturn (roman name Satan') why does it have a Pentagon on its pole ? see Nasa photo)

It also says Satan was cast out of heaven with one-third of the angels who then breed with daughters humans who are further said to be the original Jews, does that make them Satan's ambassadors and God's chosen ones.

Also to confuse things further it's also quoted God created the world and planets , so how can God be both God and Satan, and where did the people come from for the fallen angels to breed with and create the Jewish nation in the beginning ?

One then comes to the conclusion this is all Satans kingdom, and so it's rulers are doing Satan's bidding.

Sort that out, cus i'm totally confused by it all?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 02, 2016, 06:16:06 AM

Quote from: Dog-One on March 02, 2016, 01:42:36 AM
:)

Good answer, however let's use this as a mathematical formula. If you have X, calculate Y. Then at some point in the future, if we discover Y = Image (http://www.rense.com/general96/Valiantclsp.jpg), you should be able to immediately resolve X.

Actually X and Y have common denominator.

with just a matter of guidance of the mathematical formula giver, we can solve it very easily actually. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 02, 2016, 06:27:16 AM

Quote from: AlienGrey on March 02, 2016, 03:17:06 AM
Ok here is something for you to puzzle, when Jesus spend 40 days in wilderness without food ect Satan takes Jesus to high place and offers him all the kingdoms of the world, (bible says so), so the earth and planets and all it's delusions belong to Satan, if you have a problem with that, why has Saturn (roman name Satan') why does it have a Pentagon on its pol ? see Nasa photo!

It also says Satan was cast out of heaven with one-third of the angels who then breed with humans who are further said to be the original Jews, does that make them Satan's ambassadors, God's chosen ones ?

Also to confuse things further it's also quoted God created the world and planets , so how can God be both God and Satan, and where did the people come from for the fallen angels to breed with and create the Jewish nation ?

One then comes to the conclusion and question if this is all Satans kingdom and we are existing here what's our roll in all this ?

Sort that out, cus i'm totally confused by it all?

Actually bro. God is alive!, if you really seeking for him, He will reveal his self and all of your question in mind. Matthew 7:7

Well, first you have to humble your self first at him of coarse, ask for Gods forgiveness.

read and study the Bible patiently. :)

always Pray to God of coarse in JESUS name. :)

Those are actually simple questions if you really know the story of the whole Bible. promise! ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 09, 2016, 03:28:32 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5RtBVvOviA&ebc=ANyPxKrmZM72PEvsuVIDnZoxixQ2OSZ4BJ8sia3wHiK64F0oSc9gQsSxsC5-a9jmjItfYXRA1Uf1N3RkBYf0dT421nLClt5rxw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axIOU1CtJHg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6lKItCBB_8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoJvDRwrC6w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvhwEDeEp18

see you nektime ;D joke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2p58tWIxNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2bi0h8vRwo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYQEqzJmSsY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noMNTtcKD84&index=32&list=PLztE9YakZsil98JuNg6SyNlBCtI2X5oK6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2yhcmHAofw&index=78&list=PLztE9YakZsil98JuNg6SyNlBCtI2X5oK6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O3a6VPeNcw&list=PLztE9YakZsil98JuNg6SyNlBCtI2X5oK6&index=94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpfHnCW3hUc&ebc=ANyPxKqnV9Bo8opEHtYF-iB7Owfq8_z5h0V8st4w53nbqeh018OxCyB_yut9PnN4c7D3ynBmxutA2fs9iUf5posHozf0aB4GOQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPg2haEf3Q0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPg2haEf3Q0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4z60ACCIFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xmf_s_5Ev0

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pix on March 09, 2016, 04:32:00 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 09, 2016, 03:28:32 AM
see you nektime ;D joke

Hi Tito,
I think I've got it.
It is true that capacitor is a most amazing thing to get free energy.
Those are Tesla words.

Cheers,
Pix

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: xhacks on March 26, 2016, 05:12:57 PM

Hey guys,
I followed a old amplifier schematic, attached to a Joule Thief signal generator, and I just found that the output is smth like 3x times higher than output(check photos), maybe I get this wrong, can you give me a hint, thx!

Edit: Btw, the input frequency is 10kHz and output frequency is 30kHz and output doesn't affect input(miliampers and voltage drop)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 31, 2016, 05:21:43 AM

Quote from: pix on March 09, 2016, 04:32:00 AM
Hi Tito,
I think I've got it.
It is true that capacitor is a most amazing thing to get free energy.
Those are Tesla words.

Cheers,
Pix

The capacitor is actually just used to help in kicking but to get extra energy you have to use them with the coil. ;) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: snofox on March 31, 2016, 07:21:45 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 01, 2016, 05:00:18 AM
:( :( :(
I feel so sad about the previous comments but its okay and i understand all of that buddy. :(

What i just want to share from the deepest part of my heart is to let you know about JESUS. :(

What i see now is that, what ever i do weather it is good or bad its just the same effect to everyone. :(
it just makes me feel lonely, i think its not fun anymore here. :(

sorry for everything everyone, this is me the real me. :(

Sorry for my attitude, i think thats part of growing in me, please bear with me ok, i apologize. :(

i've been always true to everyone, i'm just making everything exciting ok. :(

you can say what ever you want i will not fight anymore, for that is not the real me ok. :)

i think thats it, take care all friends. even your mad at me you are still my friends, my best friends. :(

God Bless everyone :)

i cannot respond very frequent cause i'm busy with my five batteries experiment. :)

The secret actually is not found in the book and you can only see this through simple experiments,
really a tricky thing to understand but its actually nothing because it just very basic. ;) 8) :)

TESLA ONLY USE CAPS COILS AND SOME MOVEMENTS THEN WHAT WILL YOU EXPECT? ??? ??? OFF COURSE ITS JUST VERY SIMPLE ARRANGEMENT OK!!! ;)

and i believe that many knows it already. :)

some videos of Tinman are missing, why? because................. ;D

BYE EVERYONE HAPPY NEW YEAR
GOD BLESS. :-*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oljdd9BGrFc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oljdd9BGrFc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH25K5oyarw

otits :-*

that means you got it although still shallow.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pix on March 31, 2016, 07:47:05 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 31, 2016, 05:21:43 AM

The capacitor is actually just used to help in kicking but to get extra energy you have to use them with the coil. ;) 8)

Of course.
We put one and get many :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 01, 2016, 06:20:55 AM

:) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqt7oIGnEww

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on June 01, 2016, 09:16:54 AM

The thing does NOT work, or he would be showing it doing so.
What works, is his arm's motion over it, until he stops moving it.
However, there are magnet motors that do work. If you like noise.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on July 13, 2016, 06:36:44 PM

I was thinking that this is so simplistic, that I was hoping that all of the evil spirits in this vast universe, could not find a way to poke holes in it. But I guess that those enemy forces still have a key word, torque, that strikes doubt in our unbelieving souls. How can I put this any clearer, these AC generators are just being used to wind up massive voltage. All of these many AC generators together, doing their massive rotating, only need to generate one single spark of current, (practically none). That is because the input for your DC drive motor, connected to the large 1000cm circumference pulley, only needs to be a single spark of current. That is because you only need to rotate this large pulley once, and it will give you a return of 1000cm of moving belt.
-
Then, when you run this 1000cm of moving belt through one to ten mini-pulleys, having only one centimetre circumference, this will translate into 1000 to 10 000 cycles of AC electricity. There is no more discussion needed, with only one spark of DC input, you are using the mechanical abilities of pulleys, to gain a return of 1000 to 10 000 units, (sparks) of AC electricity. This shows a clear multiplication of electricity, which means that you do not have to pay for it to be generated by fossil fuels, or the heat off nuclear fission. In essence, you are using this technology to multiply already generated electricity, there by gaining free energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on July 13, 2016, 10:28:31 PM

Think about this, if you use one spark of electricity to rotate a DC motor once, connected to a 1000cm circumference pulley, which gives you 1000cm of moving belt, to run past 1 to 10 mini-pulleys of one cm circumference, giving you a return of 1000 to 10 000 units of AC electricity.
THAT IS ONE SPARK OF DC IN = 1-10 000 CYCLES OF AC ELECTRICITY OUT
(You would have to gain a net increase of power) = seemingly breaking the laws of Thermodynamics
-
Now try and tell me that you are not multiplying AC electricity, when you are multiplying total rotations
Torque is not a problem as torque comes from power generation = voltage times current
And we are just winding up massive voltage, (we only need one spark of current to keep this running)
Which, by the way, is exactly what we need, massive voltage=(pressure), to turn your drive pulley once
-
To make this a self powered mechanism,
All that you need to do, is add a full wave bridge rectifier, to convert your AC output
Into a DC output, which you run into your DC drive motor
Then you should be able to tap power off of both your AC+DC motors/generators
If you need more current capability, you could simply add more mini-pulleys + AC generators
-
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on July 14, 2016, 10:33:36 PM

Now you have NINE threads going with the same mistaken delusion -- which you have been pushing without success for years now. When will you learn how pulleys actually work?

WHEN WILL YOU LEARN HOW FORUMS ACTUALLY WORK?

I think you need a medication adjustment. Please go see your doctor as soon as possible.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 14, 2016, 10:39:29 PM

that_prophet
If you are so convinced then put your money where your conviction is. Get someone to build the device for you.
A couple of hundred dollars should be ample for a basic model.
Then show us your video.
If it works I will personally reimburse your costs.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 15, 2016, 02:59:41 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1jofPLteCY

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: darediamond on July 15, 2016, 05:25:15 AM

Quote from: that_prophet on July 13, 2016, 10:28:31 PM
Think about this, if you use one spark of electricity to rotate a DC motor once, connected to a 1000cm circumference pulley, which gives you 1000cm of moving belt, to run past 1 to 10 mini-pulleys of one cm circumference, giving you a return of 1000 to 10 000 units of AC electricity.
THAT IS ONE SPARK OF DC IN = 1-10 000 CYCLES OF AC ELECTRICITY OUT
(You would have to gain a net increase of power) = seemingly breaking the laws of Thermodynamics
-
Now try and tell me that you are not multiplying AC electricity, when you are multiplying total rotations
Torque is not a problem as torque comes from power generation = voltage times current
And we are just winding up massive voltage, (we only need one spark of current to keep this running)
Which, by the way, is exactly what we need, massive voltage=(pressure), to turn your drive pulley once
-
To make this a self powered mechanism,
All that you need to do, is add a full wave bridge rectifier, to convert your AC output
Into a DC output, which you run into your DC drive motor
Then you should be able to tap power off of both your AC+DC motors/generators
If you need more current capability, you could simply add more mini-pulleys + AC generators
-
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

While I like your Idea, I would like to point out the fact that You can badly get overumity with.committee of 300 çontroled ready made DC motors unless you rewind them,. You must make your own Axial Motor using Litz wire to get overumity. The Litz wire must be serially connected. The higher the strands in the bundle serially connected, the Higher the Toque and RPM of your Motor.
Good luck friend.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: darediamond on July 15, 2016, 05:28:53 AM

Quote from: that_prophet on July 13, 2016, 10:28:31 PM
Think about this, if you use one spark of electricity to rotate a DC motor once, connected to a 1000cm circumference pulley, which gives you 1000cm of moving belt, to run past 1 to 10 mini-pulleys of one cm circumference, giving you a return of 1000 to 10 000 units of AC electricity.
THAT IS ONE SPARK OF DC IN = 1-10 000 CYCLES OF AC ELECTRICITY OUT
(You would have to gain a net increase of power) = seemingly breaking the laws of Thermodynamics
-
Now try and tell me that you are not multiplying AC electricity, when you are multiplying total rotations
Torque is not a problem as torque comes from power generation = voltage times current
And we are just winding up massive voltage, (we only need one spark of current to keep this running)
Which, by the way, is exactly what we need, massive voltage=(pressure), to turn your drive pulley once
-
To make this a self powered mechanism,
All that you need to do, is add a full wave bridge rectifier, to convert your AC output
Into a DC output, which you run into your DC drive motor
Then you should be able to tap power off of both your AC+DC motors/generators
If you need more current capability, you could simply add more mini-pulleys + AC generators
-
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Paul-R on July 15, 2016, 08:45:45 AM

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 14, 2016, 10:33:36 PM
Now you have NINE threads going with the same mistaken delusion -- which you have been pushing without success for years now. When will you learn how pulleys actually work?

WHEN WILL YOU LEARN HOW FORUMS ACTUALLY WORK?

I think you need a medication adjustment. Please go see your doctor as soon as possible.

He has a similar number of threads in the other forums. He's a religious fruit bat but at least he doesn't drive trucks through innocent people in the name of his God, which is something to be glad about, undoubtedly.

But he should still be banned. I have PMed Stefan and he hasn't replied and appears to have done nothing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: EMJunkie on July 15, 2016, 09:33:47 AM

Quote from: that_prophet on July 13, 2016, 06:36:44 PM
I was thinking that this is so simplistic, that I was hoping that all of the evil spirits in this vast universe, could not find a way to poke holes in it. But I guess that those enemy forces still have a key word, torque, that strikes doubt in our unbelieving souls. How can I put this any clearer, these AC generators are just being used to wind up massive voltage. All of these many AC generators together, doing their massive rotating, only need to generate one single spark of current, (practically none). That is because the input for your DC drive motor, connected to the large 1000cm circumference pulley, only needs to be a single spark of current. That is because you only need to rotate this large pulley once, and it will give you a return of 1000cm of moving belt.
-
Then, when you run this 1000cm of moving belt through one to ten mini-pulleys, having only one centimetre circumference, this will translate into 1000 to 10 000 cycles of AC electricity. There is no more discussion needed, with only one spark of DC input, you are using the mechanical abilities of pulleys, to gain a return of 1000 to 10 000 units, (sparks) of AC electricity. This shows a clear multiplication of electricity, which means that you do not have to pay for it to be generated by fossil fuels, or the heat off nuclear fission. In essence, you are using this technology to multiply already generated electricity, there by gaining free energy.

First I must appologise, I have not read this entire thread, however, I hope I may have some interesting information to ponder...

The transfer of Mechanical Torque to Momentum and back again is a time dependant process. In other words, it takes time to Convert the Input Motors Torque and Store this Energy in a Flywheel in the form of Momentum.

The Electrical Energy "Generation" process is a little different however.

For every foot-pound of Torque into the Generator Shaft, there is an equal and opposite foot-pound of Torque that restricts the Input Mechanical Energy.

This reflectance is called Lenz's Law!!!

Other losses apply, Friction windage and so on...

A belt and Pulley System, can put a Time Delay between this Input Forward Torque (Electric Motor Input Torque) and the Generators Reflected Restrictive Torque (Lenz's Law). Seen in the video that Forest kindly posted.

If you get the Timing right, which can be calculated, then your Generators Reflected Restrictive Torque (Lenz's Law) could be offset by 90+ degrees and this could add to the Input Forward Torque (Electric Motor Input Torque) and your system would see no Negative Momentum!!!

I hope this helps in your search!!!

Stay Dilligent, Keen and Determined!!!

Chris Sykes
hyiq.org

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on July 18, 2016, 05:27:44 AM

HI ALL SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS TO TRY..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on July 18, 2016, 01:14:43 PM

MORE INFO

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on July 18, 2016, 01:19:30 PM

MORE INFO

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on July 22, 2016, 08:27:56 AM

modification

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on July 22, 2016, 08:43:53 AM

sooory modification again, because the circuit will not run good , as current limiting of relay coil.
you need maximum current through the actuator coil..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on July 22, 2016, 08:45:13 AM

THis time it will be JABBA YABBING FREE ENERGY..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on July 23, 2016, 06:12:42 AM

new relay from ebay item number 291644423552..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/w-Socket-Base-Pro-AC-220V-Coil-Power-Electric-Relay-DPDT-LY2NJ-HH62P-HHC68A-2Z-/291644423552?hash=item43e75cbd80:g:SL4AAOSw-7RVHQG9

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 08, 2016, 12:02:18 AM

Hi everyone good day :)

one thing that i've learned in free energy and i would like to share it to all of you is that electrons should not be leaking every time.

simply to prevent discharging. ;)

and to prolong the life of the source. :)

ok? :D

etits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 09, 2016, 03:29:36 AM

understanding it fully really helps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJe0ye_Opgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84kl_WheNtQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GLidgxMr4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq-PF1vo9QA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukBFPrXiKWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozeYaikI11g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO7RZZW0wSQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_MZNsEqyQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agujzHdvtjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8Yt1AQrH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8A6QUxfk8c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3H5lKoWPpY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tm2c6NJH4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4jzgqZu-4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiHVe8U5PhU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bht9AJ1eNYc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGkU8cHHSMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch6jti8i6u4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtp51eZkwoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFQdcKJUijQ

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on September 17, 2016, 06:25:52 AM

free energy is done using pulleys
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/
It uses the simplicity of it not taking 100 times as much force turning a 100cm circumference pulley, as it does turning a 1cm circumference pulley, yet you get 100 times more LENGTH OF MOVING BELT to work with. If you run the 100cm of belt by any # of 1cm circumference pulleys, you would gain the # of mini-pulleys times the multiple of 100 units of AC electricity.
THAT IS WHY I CALL THIS AN AC ELECTRICITY MULTIPLIER

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 22, 2016, 09:20:07 AM

well,

free energy is easy if you can do that right it can be done!

Even though they are all against that_Prophet i believe you. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNShdzUNpo0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyb7toSJ-OY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ998LjYre4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFOKN5KALvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcw6vH0Eiug

;D see!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on September 22, 2016, 10:35:43 AM

In quis .... ,Tito ?

http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-1051061-videopanoplayermobileteaserbox-cooy-1051061.jpg

U2 ?

http://www.visiantis.com/images/ecards/visi/tiere/orangutan_mittelfinger.jpg

believing is simple
demonstrating is harder

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on September 22, 2016, 10:39:37 AM

THANK YOU TITO

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 22, 2016, 09:20:07 AM
well,
free energy is easy if you can do that right it can be done!
Even though they are all against that_Prophet i believe you. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNShdzUNpo0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyb7toSJ-OY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ998LjYre4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFOKN5KALvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcw6vH0Eiug

;D see!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on September 22, 2016, 10:48:15 AM

that_prophet,
yes it is believable and constructable,
but there is ever a relationship between mass,RPM and electrical output !
Internal BEMF,no-/load condition, and external BEMF from no-/load=consumer

Here a german inventor (RIP) description, low RPM generator = ultra high costs

giving this "high" values: 1US$/1Wp so 1000 US$/1KWp only for the generator
+ pulley + motor + starter battery source

https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fworldwide.espacenet.com%2FpublicationDetails%2Fdescription%3FCC%3DDE%26NR%3D4304132A1%26KC%3DA1%26FT%3DD%26ND%3D3%26date%3D19940818%26DB%3DEPODOC%26locale%3Den_EP&edit-text= (https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fworldwide.espacenet.com%2FpublicationDetails%2Fdescription%3FCC%3DDE%26NR%3D4304132A1%26KC%3DA1%26FT%3DD%26ND%3D3%26date%3D19940818%26DB%3DEPODOC%26locale%3Den_EP&edit-text=)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on September 22, 2016, 11:00:51 AM

@that_prophet

Sorry but this idea cannot work for one simple reason. Leverage.

The drive motor is turning a wide diameter wheel or pulley. The pulley is then belted to several generators via smaller wheels.

Here is the problem. Once any of those generators start to produce output, they will start to seize up because of normal generator
drag that is present when generators produce output. That's why a car alternator needs a 150 horsepower car to turn it while it is
charging the battery otherwise, just try to try the generator by hand as it outputs and you will quickly understand the forces
involved.

But the killer is this. Let's say the generator is supplying output and because of this the generator is feeling a drag or stalling force
of only 1. Well because of Leverage, the force of 1 at the generator will be like a force of 10 on the drive motor simply because of the
wide diameter of the drive wheel. That's why in normal set-ups of this nature, the wheel diameter on the drive motor should never
be greater then the rotor diameter of the same drive motor.

You may want to look up Chas Campbell.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on September 22, 2016, 11:04:20 AM

Here is the problem. Once any of those generators start to produce output, they will start to seize up because of normal generator drag that is present when generators produce output. That's why a car alternator needs a 150 horsepower car to turn it while it is charging the battery otherwise, just try to try the generator by hand as it outputs and you will quickly understand the forces involved.

under rotating flywheel condition,wattsup ?

https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fworldwide.espacenet.com%2FsearchResults%3Fsubmitted%3Dtrue%26locale%3Den_EP%26DB%3DEPODOC%26ST%3Dadvanced%26TI%3D%26AB%3D%26PN%3D%26AP%3D%26PR%3D%26PD%3D%26PA%3Drolf%2Bwalge%26IN%3D%26CPC%3D%26IC%3D%26Submit%3DSearch&edit-text= (https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fworldwide.espacenet.com%2FsearchResults%3Fsubmitted%3Dtrue%26locale%3Den_EP%26DB%3DEPODOC%26ST%3Dadvanced%26TI%3D%26AB%3D%26PN%3D%26AP%3D%26PR%3D%26PD%3D%26PA%3Drolf%2Bwalge%26IN%3D%26CPC%3D%26IC%3D%26Submit%3DSearch&edit-text=)

Sorry,wattsup, but this idea can work for one simple reason. Leverage.

Leverage = anti-position to grave/heavy/dura ,leve=easy/light Lever=anti-gravity device

It is not a game ,wattsup,it is to know and understand (360° view) the meaning(internal) from the classical language from the science : Latin
motere,Motor generare/Generator transformare/transformer
configurare,creare,combinare,tangere,

flywheel up to the special flywheel device : Kata(the death) pult(~table/desk)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on September 22, 2016, 11:26:38 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on September 22, 2016, 11:04:20 AM
Here is the problem. Once any of those generators start to produce output, they will start to seize up because of normal generator drag that is present when generators produce output. That's why a car alternator needs a 150 horsepower car to turn it while it is charging the battery otherwise, just try to try the generator by hand as it outputs and you will quickly understand the forces involved.

under rotating flywheel condition,wattsup ?

https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fworldwide.espacenet.com%2FsearchResults%3Fsubmitted%3Dtrue%26locale%3Den_EP%26DB%3DEPODOC%26ST%3Dadvanced%26TI%3D%26AB%3D%26PN%3D%26AP%3D%26PR%3D%26PD%3D%26PA%3Drolf%2Bwalge%26IN%3D%26CPC%3D%26IC%3D%26Submit%3DSearch&edit-text= (https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fworldwide.espacenet.com%2FsearchResults%3Fsubmitted%3Dtrue%26locale%3Den_EP%26DB%3DEPODOC%26ST%3Dadvanced%26TI%3D%26AB%3D%26PN%3D%26AP%3D%26PR%3D%26PD%3D%26PA%3Drolf%2Bwalge%26IN%3D%26CPC%3D%26IC%3D%26Submit%3DSearch&edit-text=)

Sorry,wattsup, but this idea can work for one simple reason. Leverage.

Leverage = anti-position to grave/heavy/dura ,leve=easy/light Lever=anti-gravity device

It is not a game ,wattsup,it is to know and understand (360° view) the meaning(internal) from the classical language from the science : Latin
motere,Motor generare/Generator transformare/transformer
configurare,creare,combinare,tangere,

@lancaIV

Sorry man but that is not true, flywheel or not, if the belt on the flywheel is on the circumference of the wheel, the leverage of the
small wheel will hit 10 times more against the greater wheel and it WILL stop turning. But try it and prove the contrary. Leverage
can be used for or can work against, it all depends on how you set up the ratios. In the shown ratios, the drive wheel will just stop
turning. And yes, it is not a game when you are spending real money and time to find out what everyone else has found out.
That's why I recommend looking at how Chas Campbell attacked the problem by working the wheel ratios to get his flywheel to a
more neutral location in the leverage exchange.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on September 22, 2016, 11:42:27 AM

you,as listener from a radio-show,call to the radio-station: what could happen ? Rueck-Koppelung ?!

Apollo,Rakete/rocket, how many "rockets in a rocket" ?
Jumbo 747(civil),B52(militar)/Space-Shuttle "hucke-pack" : Jumbo-Velocity/Space shuttle anti-/thrust

Cable-winding(? or -s 2,or 3 neutral or....)-end: magnet2electricity,electricity2magnet
a cable,electricity network,during a storm the connection destroyed,1 side active : slang,tsssss,moving kinetical

electro static
magneto static
kineto static

if it is not thrue: error ? lie ? new science :terra cum conditio incognita ? cum conditio incognito ?

EMKF: electromagnetokinetic force from the Plasma(-Gas)
https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=gay-lussac+gesetz&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 (https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=gay-lussac+gesetz&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8)
General Gas-Law ( Schroedinger : electricity = Electron-Gas,later Ion-Gas, today Plasma )

pumping also called pulsation to propulsion MECH= 1 device : Function M=Motor E=Engine C=Compressor H=Hydraulik

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if the belt on the flywheel is on the circumference of the wheel, the leverage of the[/size]small wheel will hit 10 times more against the greater wheel and it WILL stop turning.

Yes,but you never heared about "torque" ? The same in the two,three,... converting wheels ?

Physically you are only doing compress or expand the force parameters !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on September 22, 2016, 03:10:05 PM

This was given to me for the Tribulation Saints, (I ask my ABBA Father)
+ I don't think that they will have money to buy all of these items.
When this is meant to be super simple + easy to build out of odd spare parts.
All that you need is a DC motor + an AC generator of the same voltage.
One large wheel/pulley, (like a bicycle rim) + at least one mini-pulley/wheel, (a thread role)
And a few full wave bridge rectifiers = (only 4 diodes each)
The hard part is when you would have to rig up a way to connect your motor + generators to your pulleys, (glue or threading of some sort,,, you cannot weld or bronze them, unless you found a way to disassemble them or heat sinks, to keep from frying your winding's)

Quote from: lancaIV on September 22, 2016, 10:48:15 AM
that_prophet,
yes it is believable and constructable,
but there is ever a relationship between mass,RPM and electrical output !
Internal BEMF,no-/load condition, and external BEMF from no-/load=consumer

Here a german inventor (RIP) description, low RPM generator = ultra high costs

giving this "high" values: 1US$/1Wp so 1000 US$/1KWp only for the generator
+ pulley + motor + starter battery source

https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fworldwide.espacenet.com%2FpublicationDetails%2Fdescription%3FCC%3DDE%26NR%3D4304132A1%26KC%3DA1%26FT%3DD%26ND%3D3%26date%3D19940818%26DB%3DEPODOC%26locale%3Den_EP&edit-text= (https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fworldwide.espacenet.com%2FpublicationDetails%2Fdescription%3FCC%3DDE%26NR%3D4304132A1%26KC%3DA1%26FT%3DD%26ND%3D3%26date%3D19940818%26DB%3DEPODOC%26locale%3Den_EP&edit-text=)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on September 22, 2016, 03:15:48 PM

I truly do not understand the mass misunderstanding here, can't you see that evil forces are at work, keeping you from believing this Gracious Gift of God's. This was easily understood by everybody that I told this to, and they agreed that it was so obvious, that it just had to work. I will try to explain it in the same way, that I explained it to them.
I started off by telling them that I had a large 100cm circumference pulley, and that it was connected to a DC motor. Then I told them that it only took one single spark of DC current, to rotate that large 100cm circumference pulley one full time. This would give you 100cm of moving belt, which you could then run past 1 to 10 mini-pulleys of 1cm circumference. This would give you an output of 100 to 1000 units of AC electricity, which you would run through some full wave bridge rectifiers,(4 diodes): one for each AC generator that you are using. This way you would get a lot more DC current than you would need to power your DC motor for one rotation.
Now, try and tell me that you could not get the one spark of DC current, that you needed for your input drive motor, out of the 1000 units of AC electricity that you get as an output. Thus, you have a set of AC+DC motors/generators that run continuously, that you should be able to tap power off of, and the greater the # of mini-pulleys with AC generators attached, they greater the amount of current you should be able to coax out of you leads off of your full wave bridge rectifiers.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on September 22, 2016, 03:26:58 PM

that_prophet,I like super simple thinking,too !

When this is meant to be super simple + easy to build out of odd spare parts.

odd spare parts :

sufficient for
7000
70000
700000
7000000
70000000
7000000000
70000000000

earth habitants or want your peers an "ENDKAMPF" ? I ex(s)pect a simple answer !

I believe more in 3/4D-Print-Technology than in your peers,that_prophet !
Same IDEA/L,F.ree E.nergy D.evice, different way of realizing !
A little more realistic!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 22, 2016, 03:29:22 PM

It's hard to read this whole long sentence but I may answer. Yes - it will work IF you find the way to eliminate back-force, because each of this small pulleys are loading the wheel a bit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on September 22, 2016, 04:02:30 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on September 22, 2016, 04:06:46 PM

This was given to me for the Tribulation Saints, (I ask my ABBA Father)
+ I don't think that they will have money to buy all of these expensive items.
When this is meant to be super simple + easy to build out of odd spare parts.
All that you need is a DC motor + an AC generator of the same voltage.
One large wheel/pulley, (like a bicycle rim) + at least one mini-pulley/wheel, (a thread role)
And a few full wave bridge rectifiers = (only 4 diodes each)
The hard part is when you would have to rig up a way to connect your motor + generators to your pulleys, (glue or threading of some sort,,, you cannot weld or bronze them, unless you found a way to disassemble them or heat sinks, to keep from frying your winding's)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on September 22, 2016, 04:21:26 PM

that_prophet,there are limits of acceptance of foreigns treating !

I happen to be poor,(on CPP) + disabled, with shaky hands, so I cannot build anything. I was hoping that if I made the description simple enough, that someone else would build this GEM of an idea for me. I have had the website up since 2001 or 2002

1972 :
https://www.yumpu.com/de/document/view/20184764/otto-stein-quotdie-zukunft-der-technikquot-pdf (https://www.yumpu.com/de/document/view/20184764/otto-stein-quotdie-zukunft-der-technikquot-pdf)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population_estimates (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population_estimates) 1972 ? 2016 ?

What think your "peers" about condome use ? prophylactic birth risc abortion

Your "peers" will have to wait for the decision,about them !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 23, 2016, 01:38:48 AM

All free energy device can work!!!

IF AND ONLY IF DONE IT CORRECTLY. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on September 23, 2016, 07:34:54 PM

:) :) :) :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 24, 2016, 03:37:38 AM

Actually leverage is not a problem if you know the One way ticket effect to the blue. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on September 24, 2016, 03:44:02 AM

Oh,TITO,you want to leave us and will never come back ? :'( One way ticket ! 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 24, 2016, 06:34:45 AM

Peace to everyone. :)

still don't get it?

Tesla is talking about one way ticket to the blue. isn't that amazing?. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on September 24, 2016, 06:59:08 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CiyKeSnSxk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CiyKeSnSxk) or Curazao ?
(or for pedants: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cura (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cura)çao )

I am feeling me so devil.o pardon,not to misunderstand me,spoken debil=old when I have to read such fresh and young inspiring words ! 8) and soul content ;)

Gulfe/Golf of Vizcaya=Biscaya

Vasco da Gama=Basco da Gama
mans(plural from man) can have got 1 (h)ear deficiency: mon-/poly hearing
problem: surround feeling and surround emphaizing
DOLBY

p.s.: and we -MANS- never do faults Okay -seldom,rarely :o mono-/poly :'( :-[ :-\ Excuse-me !

Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on September 28, 2016, 06:36:02 PM

Let me explain how I see that it works,
In a core must have four coil each in bifilar form, two of them to control the oscillations (parallel series) ok, there are two more, one is patent ignition and the other is delivering power with a Terminal to ground and then the other one with a capacitor in series with two diode (av-p), then transform make is accord to output volts. Finally you have to put a antenna connected to the secondary. 8)

Tell me Tito... Are you a very good teacher, I know that I miss something but ;

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2016, 04:56:46 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on September 28, 2016, 06:36:02 PM
Let me explain how I see that it works,
In a core must have four coil each in bifilar form, two of them to control the oscillations (parallel series) ok, there are two more, one is patent ignition and the other is delivering power with a Terminal to ground and then the other one with a capacitor in series with two diode (av-p), then transform make is accord to output volts. Finally you have to put a antenna connected to the secondary. 8)

Tell me Tito... Are you a very good teacher, I know that I miss something but ;

I am not exactly sure what you are talking about. :-\

Well, some says i'm a good teacher but some others don't. :-\
What do you think? 8)

in a core there should only one coil but in 75% of the coil should be an extra coil and part of the one coil and the 25% of the coil is the input, so when electricity enters at the 25% of the coil, the 75% is energized because it is inside of the magnetic field of the 25% of the coil so then if we make and brake it the power then will grows very fast. then that's it. is it very hard to understand friend. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on September 30, 2016, 11:57:08 AM

Hi all, tito, it sounds like you're talking about an auto-transformer or like the configuration in the older oil filled ignition coils.
peace love light

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zdiblo on September 30, 2016, 02:46:22 PM

"in a core there should only one coil but in 75% of the coil should be an extra coil and part of the one coil and the 25% of the coil is the input, so when electricity enters at the 25% of the coil, the 75% is energized because it is inside of the magnetic field of the 25% of the coil so then if we make and brake it the power then will grows very fast. then that's it. is it very hard to understand friend. :) "

So, the 3th is 3x the 2 ... if using...
no need for avr to charge battery...(just add collectors) a very simple design...
no spark, just pulse it...
0.500v , 75 ma, charging 9.5v bat... discharge is mini tini...just re..re do it, re fill it ...to keep it alive...

you are telling all !!! can't you see?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on October 01, 2016, 03:52:32 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2016, 04:56:46 AM

I am not exactly sure what you are talking about. :-\

Well, some says i'm a good teacher but some others don't. :-\
What do you think? 8)

in a core there should only one coil but in 75% of the coil should be an extra coil and part of the one coil and the 25% of the coil is the input, so when electricity enters at the 25% of the coil, the 75% is energized because it is inside of the magnetic field of the 25% of the coil so then if we make and brake it the power then will grows very fast. then that's it. is it very hard to understand friend. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 01, 2016, 04:59:44 AM

one coil : and one coil transformer gives by google enter:
https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=one+coil+transformer&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 (https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=one+coil+transformer&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8)

auto - or self-transformer 8)
In an autotransformer, portions of the same winding act as both the primary (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_winding) and secondary (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_winding) sides of the transformer. In contrast, an ordinary transformer has separate primary (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_winding) and secondary windings (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_winding) which are not electrically connected.

coaxial
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=4318270A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=&date=19941208&DB=&locale= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=4318270A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=&date=19941208&DB=&locale=)

but amplifying only gives not the wished result ,here 10X : 30W in and 300W output by 20 Hz:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics? (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=FR&NR=667647A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19291018&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
CC=FR&NR=667647A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19291018&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=FR&NR=667647A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19291018&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
google translated
The accompanying drawings (which are only one example of implementation of this inven tion) represent a small machine-type for single phase in approximately 20 -périodes, a power- -Efficient 300 watts, supplied by a low battery 6 volts 5 amps (that is to say, a growth medium and then 30-watt, that is to say a 10-fold that can be aug mented further.
The same principle applied to a system of 3 identical machinery ticks, properly combined and com mended by an appropriate unique rotary switch allows -Produce three-phase 50 or 60 periods (identical to the three-phase alternators) with convenience and high economy.
in this new principle, ii no transferable inactive power. the required power depends only on the dimensions of the machine. the accompanying plans are only matic Route map, they are shown in Fig. 1 and 2 (inductor body in longitudinal and transverse views.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on October 01, 2016, 02:38:25 PM

Thank you for answering to this Newbie! ;)

I think you're the best teacher, because you always tell the truth and give us your knowledge for free. Thank you very much.

I know it is very hard to understand this kind of knowledge like yours, I wish, but that is a gift from God! ::)

I had to read your book too many times to understand just a little bit. :'(
I'm really confused in this last part, I mean no av-p? just as autotransformer :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on October 01, 2016, 10:49:46 PM

QuoteSo what we need for making the extra coil or coils to work?

1. Aluminium
2. capacitor
3. diode
4. capacitor and diode
5. cap+diode+alum
6. none above

This is for 2M :D

God bless all.

cap+diode+coil that's all what you need for free energy. 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI47ZSRxVro
check it at 4:26
Thanks again!!! 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 02, 2016, 06:48:28 PM

So now with this new information, there will be many ways of going about it with what was given

Closed core or open core?

Just 1 large winding tapped at 25% of the winding?

1 Layer?

Open ended extra coil but one end connected to the 25% winding?

Is the 75% bifi? Is the 25% bifi? No bifi?

Is the 25% winding, which is said to be input, also the output?

Are any of the windings actually 'in' the core material? It kinda sounds like it the way it was stated.

Any safety measures so nobody gets hurt due to the high build up as was claimed?

Ya know, I have some hope for these things. Not as much as I used to, but I still have some.

Ive played with many many things over the last decade with this stuff. If I had made vids on all of it Id have thousands of vids, not just about 100.

Anyway, hopefully someone will get it. I havnt had lots of time like I used to to have to go through all the different variations that may need to be done to make sense of it all when given just tidbits. Heck hopefully it is just stupid simple as trying with an auto transformer, or just winding some core with 25% tap and ready to go. But in my time on these, it is never that way so far.

Good luck

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 03, 2016, 02:45:16 AM

How about a small Tesla coil with extra coil attached in non-inductive relation to the secondary and primary , then a lot of thick step down in parallel around extra coil each with HF diode . The of course you must know the magic frequency and carefully protect extra coil from overvoltage (spark gap maybe) = most of Dally,Romanov,Ruslan,Akula and others circuits ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 03, 2016, 04:17:21 AM

Actually this thing makes small kick into big kick. 8)

There are lots of variation you can do with this thing but this is the real thing. ;)

AND OF COURSE THERE IS DANGER HERE OKAY, BE CAREFUL!! :o

so try it first from small design ok.

happy experimenting everyone. i hope and i believe you can get it. ;)

The backfire of the 75% plus 25% coil is many times greater than the input AND it comes from the outside.
Then that big energy can be fired into another transformer then start collecting in the secondary of that transformer. :)

NOW YOU TELL ME IF I'M NOT TELLING THE TRUTH!!! :)

A matter of practice and experiment ok.
;)
Tesla says that just by holding the coil he can already know a lot of info in that coil. 8)

is it needed to know if its bifi? ??? :o
Tell me which is better.

We are already experimenting since lot of years already and still i have to detailed it?, what? :D
are we learning or what?!!!! >:(

ok according to tekla bifi is 250,000 times better than the ordinary.

am i going to repeat more?

if you don't know how to say thanks then just say => :P

more better at least i knew it. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 03, 2016, 05:31:26 AM

Hmm ::) ,using my tekla~ keyboard ;) and posting now this 250.000 vezes/times/Male related
thinking by others,
" ok according to tekla bifi is 250,000 times better than the ordinary." :

Nikola Tesla, U.S. Patent #512,340, "COIL FOR ELECTRO MAGNETS," he explains that a standard coil of 1000 turns with a potential of 100 volts across it will have a difference of .1 volt between turns. A similar bifilar coil will have a potential of 50 volts between turns. In that the stored energy is a function of the square of the voltages the energy in the bifilar will be 502/.12 = 2500/.01 = 250,000 times greater than the standard coil.

from
http://www.nuenergy.org/nikola-tesla-radiant-energy-system/ (http://www.nuenergy.org/nikola-tesla-radiant-energy-system/)

When was the first (commercial) radio-station worldwide established and first broadcast ?
Radio-receiver/antenna technology ? Cable net or wifi ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on October 03, 2016, 06:07:58 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 03, 2016, 04:17:21 AM
Actually this thing makes small kick into big kick. 8)

There are lots of variation you can do with this thing but this is the real thing. ;)

AND OF COURSE THERE IS DANGER HERE OKAY, BE CAREFUL!! :o

so try it first from small design ok.

happy experimenting everyone. i hope and i believe you can get it. ;)

The backfire of the 75% plus 25% coil is many times greater than the input AND it comes from the outside.
Then that big energy can be fired into another transformer then start collecting in the secondary of that transformer. :)

NOW YOU TELL ME IF I'M NOT TELLING THE TRUTH!!! :)

A matter of practice and experiment ok.
;)
Tesla says that just by holding the coil he can already know a lot of info in that coil. 8)

is it needed to know if its bifi? ??? :o
Tell me which is better.

We are already experimenting since lot of years already and still i have to detailed it?, what? :D
are we learning or what?!!!! >:(

ok according to tekla bifi is 250,000 times better than the ordinary.

am i going to repeat more?

if you don't know how to say thanks then just say => :P

more better at least i knew it. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wistiti on October 03, 2016, 09:49:48 AM

It will be nice if someone can draw a schematic of this last hint fron Tito... I think it will really help the one like me who English is not our mothertong...
Thank you! :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on October 03, 2016, 09:59:03 AM

Tito,

Are you pumping up a magnetic field with high freq pulses and then collapsing the field to harvest the output from both coils?

CM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on October 03, 2016, 09:47:01 PM

Tito has mentioned in the past that one version of the device follows the design of the Tesla Magnifying Transmitter. Teets even linked a short video. The one thing that stood out for me was that this video described three coils:

- Primary
- Secondary
- Resonant Coil

I'd like to propose the third coil as not just a resonant coil, but a step down coil.

We know that a series-wound bifilar secondary will not interfere with the action of the primary. That is, it will not produce secondary reflection.
We have again seen Tito reference to Tesla's patent about the series wound bifilar pancake coil producing 250,000 times the input voltage.

There are so many combinations... Maybe we could brainstorm a bit. What do people think of this:

- a cap discharging into a primary (25%)
- a secondary consisting of two coils equal to the primary, but arranged as series-wound bifilar (50%) (to give 250,000x voltage amplification effect)
- a step down coil equal to the primary (25%)

In this way, the primary is 25%; the bifilar secondary and step down coil constitute the remaining 75%.

Any thoughts?

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: mikemongo on October 03, 2016, 10:35:39 PM

Maybe it's as simple as he put it.
25% of the coil drives the rest through mutual induction.
Kind of a venturi effect.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 03, 2016, 10:40:13 PM

Quote from: Cadman on October 03, 2016, 09:59:03 AM
Tito,

Are you pumping up a magnetic field with high freq pulses and then collapsing the field to harvest the output from both coils?

CM

The 25%+75% which is equal to 100% plus the unlimited inrush from the outside is again fired into another transformer.

The steven marks transfo is better because we can at least put 3 parallel inputs and we can put lots of secondaries in that design.

i think that's all enough for everyone to discover it. :)

be careful once again cause I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATHS AND SHOCK. :D :) :o

IT CAN EASILY KILL YOU OK!!! :o

GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 03, 2016, 11:06:34 PM

TiiiiiToooooo, :-\ ??? :-X

The steven marks transfo is better because we can at least put 3 parallel inputs and we can put lots of secondaries in that design.
i think that's all enough for everyone to discover it.
be careful once again cause I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATHS AND SHOCK. IT CAN EASILY KILL YOU OK!!!

"Black Thursday" or what,
it is tould to us that the Marks device become overhot and smelted !
For this Marks concept there will become needed the counterpart : refrigeration !

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 04, 2016, 02:41:10 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on October 03, 2016, 11:06:34 PM
TiiiiiToooooo, :-\ ??? :-X

The steven marks transfo is better because we can at least put 3 parallel inputs and we can put lots of secondaries in that design.
i think that's all enough for everyone to discover it.
be careful once again cause I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATHS AND SHOCK. IT CAN EASILY KILL YOU OK!!!

"Black Thursday" or what,
it is tould to us that the Marks device become overhot and smelted !
For this Marks concept there will become needed the counterpart : refrigeration !

Sincerely
OCWL

Yes, They have to say that so that no more will go in deep to that technology. ;)

in order for the transformer to melt or become hot, it should under capacitated! ok? ;) 8)
you try to plug a 120 volts in a 220 volts outlet and you will know what i mean. :D

Now, if you don't want to use the transfo, you just try to use the "I" type, you put the input in the middle and put secondaries in the bottom at the middle and top, imagine you could put three collectors in one "I" type, and you can have many "I" type as you wish!!! 8) :o ;) :)

of course it is still in the design why it melts ok!.

And Well, heating is just normal and fire is just normal. :D

Believe me for once, THERE IS ALWAYS A BETTER WAY SOLUTION FOR EVERY PROBLEMA. 8)
DON'T STUCK IN IT OK! ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: mrzlica on October 04, 2016, 04:43:02 AM

Hi everybody!

Looking the last few pages and don't get it at all. :(
Is seams there ware some useful info from Tito which apparently are deleted, [size=78%]or what?[/size] :-X
Is this going in the right direction or we are stuck again. It seams that on this forum people have knowledge
but not willing to share. I don't understand why they are struggling with all the puzzles.
The people here who are willing to do some work and have the time and equipment will not build the device
if there are real data, schematics, pics....There ware too many of them which didn't work.
Or what??? :P

brm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 04, 2016, 05:55:52 AM

Eye,Eye,Sire Tito !

Do rock me now !

Vale bene
OCWL

p.s.: did you also vote for President Duterte ? He - becoming like Adolf ? Amputating 1 Hoden ?
Less TOMATO ?

An Austrian,R.I.P "FALCO" , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bysD5pKE4p8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bysD5pKE4p8)
A real CRACK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFhpz3g9p8M
but he did not went to the Filippines,today riskfull,he lived the last years in the Caraibes,Domenican Republic ! His ABSCHIED/ END https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyrdPtEHKzE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Enjoykin2017 on October 04, 2016, 09:51:01 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 03, 2016, 10:17:21 AM

Actually this thing makes small kick into big kick. 8)
There are lots of variation you can do with this thing but this is the real thing. ;)
AND OF COURSE THERE IS DANGER HERE OKAY, BE CAREFUL!! :o
so try it first from small design ok.
happy experimenting everyone. i hope and i believe you can get it. ;)

The backfire of the 75% plus 25% coil is many times greater than the input AND it comes from the outside.
Then that big energy can be fired into another transformer then start collecting in the secondary of that transformer. :)

NOW YOU TELL ME IF I'M NOT TELLING THE TRUTH!!! :)
A matter of practice and experiment ok. ;)
Tesla says that just by holding the coil he can already know a lot of info in that coil. 8)
is it needed to know if its bifi? ??? :o
Tell me which is better.

We are already experimenting since lot of years already and still i have to detailed it?, what? :D
are we learning or what?!!!! >:(

ok according to tekla bifi is 250,000 times better than the ordinary.
am i going to repeat more?
if you don't know how to say thanks then just say => :P
more better at least i knew it. :D

Hello Tito L. Oracion and all !! :)

Does your exparimental setup similar like this Tesla schematic ?

If you have repeated Tesla experiment tell me how did you made Tesla Spark-Gap - magnetic or quenched type spark-gap or mechanical rotational type ?

Do you have implemented Tesla Rules for your experiments ?

The words: "Resonance in Resonance or Vibartion in Vibration" could worth for 2 kind of vibrations or resonances - Secondary ʎ/4 and Extra Secondary 3ʎ/4 with the same transition mode.

Good Luck
Enjoykin

........................
ps: Tesla Rules

1. Mass of Primary (copper weight) = Mass Secondary plus Extra Secondary (copper weight)
2. Primary vibration must be in harmony with secondary ʎ/4 vibration. (Extra Secondary will be automatic in harmony with Primary vibration.
3. Ground points (2 independent earth grounds) must be in 2 ʎ/4 or ʎ/2 distance for optimal power transfer.
4. Position and distance from primary coil of Spark-Gap is also very important. Spark-Gap could be in hot wire (HV side) or cold wire (Ground side) - which is not the same for correct working Tesla Mag Magnification Transformer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on October 04, 2016, 10:15:53 PM

Check out the diagram at 29 seconds:
https://youtu.be/VqdcU9ULAlA?t=29
It's not the whole answer, but I think part of it.
Notice the cap in parallel with the secondary and antenna on the primary, going to a ground shared with the secondary.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 04, 2016, 11:56:51 PM

Quote from: Enjoykin2017 on October 04, 2016, 09:51:01 AM
Hello Tito L. Oracion and all !! :)

Does your exparimental setup similar like this Tesla schematic ?

If you have repeated Tesla experiment tell me how did you made Tesla Spark-Gap - magnetic or quenched type spark-gap or mechanical rotational type ?

Do you have implemented Tesla Rules for your experiments ?

The words: "Resonance in Resonance or Vibartion in Vibration" could worth for 2 kind of vibrations or resonances - Secondary ʎ/4 and Extra Secondary 3ʎ/4 with the same transition mode.

Good Luck
Enjoykin

........................
ps: Tesla Rules

1. Mass of Primary (copper weight) = Mass Secondary plus Extra Secondary (copper weight)
2. Primary vibration must be in harmony with secondary ʎ/4 vibration. (Extra Secondary will be automatic in harmony with Primary vibration.
3. Ground points (2 independent earth grounds) must be in 2 ʎ/4 or ʎ/2 distance for optimal power transfer.
4. Position and distance from primary coil of Spark-Gap is also very important. Spark-Gap could be in hot wire (HV side) or cold wire (Ground side) - which is not the same for correct working Tesla Mag Magnification Transformer.

That seems to be an odd place for the 'break', which I assume is mechanical. Lets say that the left side is the transmitter and the right side is the receiver, could be the other way around due to each side is like a mirror image, which again seems strange to me, but if it is the transmitter, when the break happens to close, make connection, where does the cap to the far left dump to when that connection is made? Into what surely seems like a larger capacitance. But maybe that looks bad only in the beginning when we fire it up. So would the break make connection to the larger cap just to keep it topped up over its peak positive resonant cycle?

It surely doesnt look like the break is discharging a cap to a coil in that circuit, of which would have reminded me of Tesla. So this looks like we get the resonance going in the primary and the larger cap, and then just have a mechanical/electronic switch timed to just top up the large cap, so it is not a cap discharge circuit, its more of a trickle input once running.

Thats my I didnt read it yet assumption. I like to try to get it by looking at it first. I dunno why, I just do. Sometimes I do get it.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Enjoykin2017 on October 05, 2016, 04:50:24 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 04, 2016, 11:56:51 PM
That seems to be an odd place for the 'break', which I assume is mechanical. Lets say that the left side is the transmitter and the right side is the receiver, could be the other way around due to each side is like a mirror image, which again seems strange to me, but if it is the transmitter, when the break happens to close, make connection, where does the cap to the far left dump to when that connection is made? Into what surely seems like a larger capacitance. But maybe that looks bad only in the beginning when we fire it up. So would the break make connection to the larger cap just to keep it topped up over its peak positive resonant cycle?

It surely doesnt look like the break is discharging a cap to a coil in that circuit, of which would have reminded me of Tesla. So this looks like we get the resonance going in the primary and the larger cap, and then just have a mechanical/electronic switch timed to just top up the large cap, so it is not a cap discharge circuit, its more of a trickle input once running.

Thats my I didnt read it yet assumption. I like to try to get it by looking at it first. I dunno why, I just do. Sometimes I do get it.

Mags

Yes thanks for you comment Mags. :)

It could be mechanical break kind of power switch but in that case we need to find correct position for Spark-Gap. Capacitor C is probably resonant capacitor from HV power transformer secondary. Bigger capacitor C1 should be main primary discharging cap. I think Spark Gap should be Magnetic type arc disrupter like Tesla had stated many times.

The picture is for preliminary idea how it looks like according to Tito L. Oracion's description and I have took from the Colorado Spring Notes book.

Mags if you plan to make experiment we could make further discussion aboutmany processes. I hope other memebers her will join our conversation.

Best Regards
Enjoykin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 05, 2016, 09:06:57 PM

Quote from: Enjoykin2017 on October 05, 2016, 04:50:24 AM
Yes thanks for you comment Mags. :)

It could be mechanical break kind of power switch but in that case we need to find correct position for Spark-Gap. Capacitor C is probably resonant capacitor from HV power transformer secondary. Bigger capacitor C1 should be main primary discharging cap. I think Spark Gap should be Magnetic type arc disrupter like Tesla had stated many times.

The picture is for preliminary idea how it looks like according to Tito L. Oracion's description and I have took from the Colorado Spring Notes book.

Mags if you plan to make experiment we could make further discussion aboutmany processes. I hope other memebers her will join our conversation.

Best Regards
Enjoykin

Ive just learned over time to mostly be able to see what happens in these circuits. So noticing the position of the break in the circuit made me look twice.

So in a way this design probably doesnt have heavy burning of contacts, if the timing of the 'make' is in sync with the resonance of the large cap and primary LC, of which that freq may be altered by the secondary with what looks to be an extra coil. Lets say for instance that when the large cap and the primary are in resonance and say it simply may have only 300v swinging back and forth, 300v+ to 300v-. If we were to charge up the LC to the 300v point and take away the input all together, each resonant cycle will diminish in voltage. Lets say it drops 10v for each half cycle, possibly being conservative on that number, but its just an example.
So +300v to -290v to +280v to -270v and so on till the oscillations stop. And the drop wont be linear like that, but just getting to the part of what the break has to accomplish.

So the LC is at + 300v and the break opens, and the LC ringing swings to -290v and then back up to +280 and the break closes again and only has to replenish the value of the voltage drop of 300v to 280v. Its only a 'Possible', for this hypothetical example, 20v difference that has to be replaced for each cycle loss. So this is a variant of a circuit that would have abrupt discharge into a coil from a cap, like the wind up tapper machine that made the building shake, where this circuit helps just maintain a particular level of resonant operation. Say the tapper could make the building to rumble dramatically, well then this circuit could help it just maintain a lower oscillation, or like once we got the building into a lesser oscillation and didnt want to go any further, then we could reduce the output of the tapper to only emit just enough to maintain that particular oscillation, like what this circuit looks like its intended to do.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 06, 2016, 01:18:05 PM

how is the energy gain/lost result in a car ignition system and how is a car ignition system built over the time to the actual standart ?

https://www.hk-auto.de/zuendsy.html (https://www.hk-auto.de/zuendsy.html)

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z)ündspule

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 06, 2016, 07:27:13 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on October 06, 2016, 01:18:05 PM
how is the energy gain/lost result in a car ignition system and how is a car ignition system built over the time to the actual standart ?

https://www.hk-auto.de/zuendsy.html (https://www.hk-auto.de/zuendsy.html)

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z)ündspule

There was a time at my work where they had a box of car ignition coils they wanted me to test.

So I set up a 12v battery with a momentary switch in series with the + and - terminals of the ign coil. Then I used a spark plug wire and a spark plug with its threaded base connected to the - terminal of the coil. So we push the switch to build a field in the coil primary then we release the switch to let the field collapse induce the secondary which is wound to produce about 15kv to 25kv. Some aftermarket coils can produce up to 50kv out to the spark plug. But I was getting virtually no spark or just a weak static looking spark.

So I had an idea that there is something wrong in the circuit. I looked up some images of points circuits and found a clear example that included a capacitor/condenser and I added that cap to the circuit. Still weak spark. So I didnt think about the cap as necessary for a bit. Then I looked at the circuit again and noticed the cap is not in a place to either protect the points contacts, nor was it in place that it would interact with the coil when the switch was open. So I put the cap across the switch and BANG. The sparks were burning white. They seem to be more than just a small static pip. It looks and sounds like there is multiple strong sparks in succession, like the same as we can detect how a tone can be heard over time, a short pip vs maybe a couple milliseconds, what ever it may be. I have not gotten back to that to measure the apparent oscillation between the cap and the primary. But I would bet some mula that there is a longer spark time with the cap due to resonant oscillation vs without the cap. And again, the power level of the spark is much greater than without the cap..(just now measured one at .2uf dont have a coil here to measure its ohms and inductance.

The other thing you notice with this circuit is the oscillation goes through the battery also. I wonder what effect that has on the battery. Modern systems do not allow field collapse current spikes and the like of relays, motors, etc. to re enter the power system of the vehicles. Some people may add some component to their vehicle that uses a switch to operate a relay. If there is not a snubber diode across the relay coil, you will hear pops in the audio system of the vehicle.

Ill have to dig up that coil I have. Did some experiments on YT using a Sidac to act as a 220v spark gap to connect the cap being charged via avramenko plug. Now I want to set it up to see if the sidac allowed oscillations Maybe a cap across the sidac? This is more like disruptive discharge but Im wondering if the sidac disconnects the cap once it reaches a low voltage state. But mind you, the cap discharge at 220v is a vary small capacitance. This was 5yrs ago. looking over my vids brings up new ideas to test things I wasnt thinking of then.

This is part 4 of 5 vids on this subject and the use of the Avramenko plug....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EP8M4YcGio

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on October 06, 2016, 11:08:26 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 03, 2016, 10:40:13 PM

The 25%+75% which is equal to 100% plus the unlimited inrush from the outside is again fired into another transformer.

The steven marks transfo is better because we can at least put 3 parallel inputs and we can put lots of secondaries in that design.

i think that's all enough for everyone to discover it. :)

be careful once again cause I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATHS AND SHOCK. :D :) :o

IT CAN EASILY KILL YOU OK!!! :o

GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on October 06, 2016, 11:09:51 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 04, 2016, 02:41:10 AM

Yes, They have to say that so that no more will go in deep to that technology. ;)

in order for the transformer to melt or become hot, it should under capacitated! ok? ;) 8)
you try to plug a 120 volts in a 220 volts outlet and you will know what i mean. :D

Now, if you don't want to use the transfo, you just try to use the "I" type, you put the input in the middle and put secondaries in the bottom at the middle and top, imagine you could put three collectors in one "I" type, and you can have many "I" type as you wish!!! 8) :o ;) :)

of course it is still in the design why it melts ok!.

And Well, heating is just normal and fire is just normal. :D

Believe me for once, THERE IS ALWAYS A BETTER WAY SOLUTION FOR EVERY PROBLEMA. 8)
DON'T STUCK IN IT OK! ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 07, 2016, 05:02:41 AM

Bruce Perrault ,probably usefull his work results !
http://www.nuenergy.org/k-capture-generator/ (http://www.nuenergy.org/k-capture-generator/)

For an electic circuit invented by Lloyd Crump,Rheostat :
http://www.google.st/patents/US1008701 (http://www.google.st/patents/US1008701)
other inventions by him,information filtering need
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=lloyd+crump&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Enjoykin2017 on October 07, 2016, 02:49:40 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 05, 2016, 09:06:57 PM
Ive just learned over time to mostly be able to see what happens in these circuits. So noticing the position of the break in the circuit made me look twice.

So in a way this design probably doesnt have heavy burning of contacts, if the timing of the 'make' is in sync with the resonance of the large cap and primary LC, of which that freq may be altered by the secondary with what looks to be an extra coil. Lets say for instance that when the large cap and the primary are in resonance and say it simply may have only 300v swinging back and forth, 300v+ to 300v-. If we were to charge up the LC to the 300v point and take away the input all together, each resonant cycle will diminish in voltage. Lets say it drops 10v for each half cycle, possibly being conservative on that number, but its just an example.
So +300v to -290v to +280v to -270v and so on till the oscillations stop. And the drop wont be linear like that, but just getting to the part of what the break has to accomplish.

So the LC is at + 300v and the break opens, and the LC ringing swings to -290v and then back up to +280 and the break closes again and only has to replenish the value of the voltage drop of 300v to 280v. Its only a 'Possible', for this hypothetical example, 20v difference that has to be replaced for each cycle loss. So this is a variant of a circuit that would have abrupt discharge into a coil from a cap, like the wind up tapper machine that made the building shake, where this circuit helps just maintain a particular level of resonant operation. Say the tapper could make the building to rumble dramatically, well then this circuit could help it just maintain a lower oscillation, or like once we got the building into a lesser oscillation and didnt want to go any further, then we could reduce the output of the tapper to only emit just enough to maintain that particular oscillation, like what this circuit looks like its intended to do.

Mags

Hi Mags

Yes you are quite right about described process in primary LC. But remember what Tesla said about primary excitation. Only unipolar HV impulse was permitted for primary LC excitation. Or in the other words unidirectional switch with infinitely short open and close times. This is a real probem how to get that HV Uni.-pulse. Amlitude shoud be very high more than 20 KV with no swinging current from primary to HV power supply and vice versa. Only fully controled clean and sharp HV Uni.-pulse. For that purpose he had made several kinds of unipolar spark-gap dischargers and the best one had shown was Magnetic Disrupter Spark-Gap. Find Tesla patent how to make one. That magnetic discharger give bunch of conducting electrons (from charged HV capacitor) terrible speed wit giant huge inertial forces while accelerating with astonishing 12 Mega Volts accelerating volatge (in Teslas case he used that).

What will happen when so huge accelarated bunch of electrons sudden stike massive copper primary coil on his way ??

There come play new physical process or preciselly new sort of aggregate state of matter - Aetheric Matter. In my oppinion this matter was "hard packed" in inner shell of electron/s. Remember that mass of such "packed matter" in electron volume exceed 15 000 ton/cm³ and we simple release that giant packed aetheric particles out of electron shell and they continue to fly out to target - primary Tesla coil with the giant accelerating speed only under inflience of huge inertial forces.

What is really going on than these accelerated Aetheric Particles hit giant number of electrons in massive primary coil of Tesla Transformer need to be researched very carefully. Remember Radiant matter paticles (Aetheric Matter) in forms of strong Radiant rays (very similar like light rays) totaly made charged (electified) any metalic suraface which were exposed to Radiant Rays even on very long distances.

So until we have got a pure Radiant rays we can not make nothung in sense of Overunity and Self-Running generators. Yes Mags we definitely need that new kind of matter.... Aether Matter released from intrinsic volime of electrons. According to John Ernst Worrell Keely that Aetheric Matter possess highly vibratory state for all own coupled particles - that means possess giant kinetik force field which is direct responsibele for new kinds of matter transmutation process.

Could you make experiments with Magnetic Disruptor Spark-Gap and see what is going on ??

Reg.
Enjoykin

ps: Nice experiment with your car ignition coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on October 07, 2016, 11:34:22 PM

With regard to unipolar impulses, Tito has mentioned multiple times the importance of a unidirectional impulse.
I believe the AV plug is all that is needed to accomplish this.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 11, 2016, 02:14:14 AM

Thinking about this coil in Don Smiths device...

The primary is the inner red positionable winding. When it is running, is the red coil between the 2 outer coils, centered? Or is it in the position shown in the pic?

If it is like the pic, then the red winding stimulates the outer coil it sits in, which has the cap across it on the terminal block to the right, then I wonder what the output of the thing is coming from. Its looking like the 2 diode duos put the 2 outer windings in series to load the caps on the far right.

If this is what is going on, is the outer winding closer to us in the pic being induced by the red inner winding or is it getting it from the far outer winding?

Usually an inner coil as shown has a lot less influence on an outer coil would have on an inner coil. Air core.

So I wonder about the logic of the inner primary and is there advantage doing so vs the other way around.

Dunno.Something is just clicking a bit when I look at it.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 11, 2016, 02:19:20 AM

Ah. I missed something with the diodes. It looks like the 2 outer coils would have to be out of phase in relation to each other to charge the cap or one dumps to the caps in one direction of oscillation and the other coil dumps in the other polarity.
But Im concerned with the coil config. How do those 3 coils interact if the red coil is inside only one of the outer coils.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tesluh on October 11, 2016, 10:10:31 AM

I believe the length of primary being 1/4 of secondary has to deal with its size which is why its inside the primary, if it was outside with the same length of wire on the coil it would barely be 2 turns. I am also playing with this device and trying to build one that does what it was said it should.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tesluh on October 11, 2016, 10:22:54 AM

and if anyone reading this hasn't figured it out already, lancaIV is providing some kind of attempt (possibly automated) to derail any conversation that deals with figuring out how devices like this can be built and put to use. Notice the cryptic language, unrelated links (usually .pt addresses) and text that looks like it was cut and pasted. there will also usually be some black and red highlighted text (for no particular reason) in posts from lancaIV...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on October 11, 2016, 07:22:16 PM

Mags,
It does seem strange, compared to the usual Tesla-type setups, with the primary usually on the outside.
One thing I noticed, and I'm not sure...
- it looks like the upper secondary (over the primary) and the lower secondary are wound in opposite directions, but without seeing it from another angle, I can't be sure. If that's the case, do we get the two oppositely wound coils essentially cancelling out each other's mag fields and putting out a lot voltage, like the series bifi coil?

If that's the case, then I'm assuming it would need to be stepped down to a useable level.
FWIW,
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tesluh on October 11, 2016, 08:18:03 PM

after studying that device closely (never saw a video of that actual one in use), the outer secondary is all wound the same way, Barker and Williamson RF coil 17 turns each half joined in the center. Roughly 160 in long. the primary inside wound opposite from the outside, roughly 6 wraps plus tails about 80 inches of wire roughly. doing the same thing has produced some results for me in that the secondary shows activity when the primary is powered up. waiting on capacitor bank and some other components but still don't have what I would call an exact schematic yet. so many variations of this device and none of them I have seen convincingly doing what it has been claimed to do.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tesluh on October 11, 2016, 10:25:38 PM

Just came across this written by "zilano" in 2011
----------------------------
-To get overunity the input must be low(thin primary-high impedance) and secondary output(low
impedance) high amps. this is the magic behind dons circuits. but don never disclosed this magic
trick. people who saw dons designs made primary thick and secondary thin they had failures in
output power. underunity. or unity. i call this REVERSE TESLA COIL. MAKE primary as
secondary and secondary as primary. kapanadse got this idea and u can see his green box coil is
based on don circuit. see my attachment in one of my posts dons smith pdf dated 1994 bottom
circuit. the 6A coil 6 turns is same as dons circuit.

--------------------------

Sounds like I have my coils made backward and that the ones in dons photo would be wrong as well. on a tesla coil the primary is thick and secondary is thin. the difference between 10ga and 16 ga is about 4 times the cross sectional area. the difference between 8 ga and 14 ga is about the same as well 4 times difference). instead of 16 ga secondary and 10 ga primary I think I will try opposite, with 16 ga primary 4 times longer than secondary to keep same weight of copper in each. Still not positive about the 2 pc secondary if the weight/length needs to be of the whole 2 pc section or each half. this video is what I think my next coil arrangement is going to look like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBYdqSrJssU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on October 13, 2016, 07:53:32 PM

Quote from: Tesluh on October 11, 2016, 10:22:54 AM
and if anyone reading this hasn't figured it out already, lancaIV is providing some kind of attempt (possibly automated) to derail any conversation that deals with figuring out how devices like this can be built and put to use. Notice the cryptic language, unrelated links (usually .pt addresses) and text that looks like it was cut and pasted. there will also usually be some black and red highlighted text (for no particular reason) in posts from lancaIV...

I am LancaIV,forum member Tesluh,and I am member since +/_ 2005 here and I did not changed my thinking and mention since this time !
I can deliver here copies from forum member posts which shows that we have been 2006 in this energy -overunity gain- device exploration stage and that not very many members remarked this !

Are you using an automatic translator ? I not ! I have learned English at school and clearly -I make
orthographical faults-from wrong defined orthografical definition view,because I use this language from ancient latin/portugueses + anglo/saxonic manner kind,something similar esperanto.

Did you never thought that the translator program(m)-s are seldom static,
these becomes updated/upgrated and probably with later wrong left-right and right-left thinking/writtings and logical content translation,so no I but the translator program "worlks wrong" and let me seen by your eyes and feeling like a "saboteur/MIB or such synonyms" ,which are given to people or groups whose want to help and explorate good and sensitive science results,approved and probably Nobel-prize-awarded to the forum and members ( vulgo "VFolk").

Are you well educated,Tesluh ?
It can be that I am by my mother and family members,by teachers and many much more people and organizations up to the U.N.Organisation information archive content !

Tesluh,I am not a "MIB", but ------hmmmmmm, : ? and you ?! 8) Klerus,NSA ?

Have a good time to find a fair and logical answer
OCW L(ancza)

p.s.: I am living in Portugal cause this you will find the "google.pt" suffix -you orthographical and geographical "greenhorn" !
Albert Einstein: "..... we,the humans,are only using -in average- 10% from our conscious potential

some less,Tesluh ::) Do you know this New Age "Antheme/Hymn" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNrnmDmffRc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNrnmDmffRc)

and daydream/dreamtime explorer like here believed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf1WT8VEZxk

a buddhistic ;D from my side to you,member :)
as Abendland Wizar,Sinnbader ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 16, 2016, 12:36:48 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on October 11, 2016, 07:22:16 PM
Mags,
It does seem strange, compared to the usual Tesla-type setups, with the primary usually on the outside.
One thing I noticed, and I'm not sure...
- it looks like the upper secondary (over the primary) and the lower secondary are wound in opposite directions, but without seeing it from another angle, I can't be sure. If that's the case, do we get the two oppositely wound coils essentially cancelling out each other's mag fields and putting out a lot voltage, like the series bifi coil?

If that's the case, then I'm assuming it would need to be stepped down to a useable level.
FWIW,
Bob

hey Bob

What Im thinking is, say the outer coil is the same dia but 100ft long. Is it still only the inner primary that is inducing the other 99ft of the outer coil, or is it the primary induced outer coil field of the 1 ft that feeds the other 99ft? As we know the primary field strength and density diminish with distance, so it must not have much affect on the rest of the winding beyond say 2 ft. Or is the primary field trapped inside the outer coil, due to the outer coils counter field, so as the pri field traverses the length of the 100ft, it just remains denser to induce the full length much more than I imagine?

I would recommend that anyone who attempts a Don Smith Build, to try it with both outer coils wound in the same continual direction and also another outer coil setup with them wound oppositely. Oppositely as in if we start both windings in the middle, they will be wound in the same direction, just the left one winding left and the right one winding to the right end of the tube.

Was thinking. These days it would be soo simple for someone to alter pics like these where it could give the full impression that one is wound one way or both the same. Just some photoshop around the coil ends and the middle starting points. Also, Ive seen wire wrap and soldered center taps. Why the separate outer windings if they are wound in the same direction? ??? Why not just a nice single continuous wind and a center tap? Its not like the center tap wire couldnt be any size near what the diode leads or the capacitor leads are. ??? Is there a certain space needed between the 2 outer coil halves? So it always has me thinking, by just about every thing I see, that the outer coils should be wound opposing..... Or, is it only one outer coil at a time that dumps though its diode pack then during the other phase the other coil dumps? That would be an interaction that I would like to visually understand.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 16, 2016, 03:44:54 AM

IMHO The part with capacitor is LC tank circuit, the other part is antenna. It has to be adjusted to both resonances.
If you think clearly about this setup , then the only way it may be overunity is by this : you put a discharge signal at primary slow frequency like 60Hz so there is plenty time between impulses. The secondary is matched and oscillate freely generating many many current kicks as not so much higher voltage then primary. So the results is output capacitors charge much faster then normal. Here is the magic. Capacitors charge at Mhz radio waves and electrons are taken from ground.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on October 16, 2016, 02:45:04 PM

Quote from: that_prophet on September 22, 2016, 04:06:46 PM
This was given to me for the Tribulation Saints, (I ask my ABBA Father)
+ I don't think that they will have money to buy all of these expensive items.
When this is meant to be super simple + easy to build out of odd spare parts.
All that you need is a DC motor + an AC generator of the same voltage.
One large wheel/pulley, (like a bicycle rim) + at least one mini-pulley/wheel, (a thread role)
And a few full wave bridge rectifiers = (only 4 diodes each)
The hard part is when you would have to rig up a way to connect your motor + generators to your pulleys, (glue or threading of some sort,,, you cannot weld or bronze them, unless you found a way to disassemble them or heat sinks, to keep from frying your winding's)

-
Lenz law sounds like something electronic, when this works om simple pulley mechanics = 100cm circumference pulley only turns once
+ this gives you 100 turns, X,(times) the # of 1cm circumference pulleys that you attach.
If you attach AC generators to each of these 1cm mini-pulleys,
you would gain 100 units of AC electricity, for every 1cm pulley that you attach.
This could be massive amounts of free AC electricity,
if you added 10's of these mini-pulleys then you would gain 1000's of units of AC electricity,
all done with one spark of DC current, (practically zero)
-
that_prophet - Re: use pulleys to multiply total # of rotations = AC electricity
Quote from: citfta on October 14, 2016, 01:05:13 PM
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I don't understand how you can be so dense. You have had numerous people tell you that your idea will not work. That is because we actually have experience working with motors and generators.
-
REPLY BY ME
I don't understand how mankind be so dense, to not see that this use of pulleys does not involve torque, but simple multiplication of rotations = multiplication of AC electricity. The AC generators are just winding up massive voltage, to turn over your DC motor, only the once, + no current, as you only need one spark to have this self powering.
-
Now try and tell me that you would not be able to get one spark of DC output,
when you have 1000's of units of AC electricity to work with

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on October 16, 2016, 05:51:09 PM

MOTORS DO NOT RUN ON A SPARK OF ELECTRICITY!! Follow the links I gave you and try to learn how motors and generators really work. They do not work like your fantasy ideas.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tesluh on October 17, 2016, 12:29:13 PM

My understanding is that l2 coil is two equal but wound opposite coils half cw and half ccw. it was explained as two tesla coils laying flat. still wish I had a for sure on length of the coils and wire size. much of the secondary side schematic is still a mystery to me, so many conflicting schematics. I believe I have the primary side figured out pretty well now. I get a nice spark gap action and I can arc a screwdriver across the secondary coils which tells me the l1 is doing something to the l2 at least. now getting them resonating in sync and figuring out what to do with the l2 side to get mains power.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on November 06, 2016, 09:11:24 PM

Tito L. O. there are something that still no understand about this;

Quoten a core there should only one coil but in 75% of the coil should be an extra coil and part of the one coil and the 25% of the coil is the input, so when electricity enters at the 25% of the coil, the 75% is energized because it is inside of the magnetic field of the 25% of the coil so then if we make and brake it the power then will grows very fast. then that's it. is it very hard to understand friend

.

Are you talking about this? Patent 454,622?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on November 07, 2016, 08:04:22 AM

To Everyone, It is with the deepest sorrow that I have to announce the sudden and unexpected Death of John Bedini today (Saturday, November 5, 2016). Those of us who knew him well are without words at this time. Anyone who would like to leave a comment here about this truly brilliant and generous Soul, please do.Peter Lindemann

http://emediapress.com/2016/11/06/john-bedini-you-will-be-missed/

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20629-end-era.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20629-end-era.html)

R. I.P.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 09, 2016, 10:53:36 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on November 06, 2016, 09:11:24 PM
Tito L. O. there are something that still no understand about this;
.

Are you talking about this? Patent 454,622?

No!, i'm talking about the ozone patent. :D

You're thinking too much and too high my friend. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 09, 2016, 10:56:54 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on November 07, 2016, 08:04:22 AM
To Everyone, It is with the deepest sorrow that I have to announce the sudden and unexpected Death of John Bedini today (Saturday, November 5, 2016). Those of us who knew him well are without words at this time. Anyone who would like to leave a comment here about this truly brilliant and generous Soul, please do.Peter Lindemann

http://emediapress.com/2016/11/06/john-bedini-you-will-be-missed/ (http://emediapress.com/2016/11/06/john-bedini-you-will-be-missed/)

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20629-end-era.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20629-end-era.html)

R. I.P.

A deepest condolence to sir John Bedini. :'( :'( :'(
i was encourage to search more because of his amazing videos. :)

:) otits :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on November 10, 2016, 01:06:08 AM

Thank you Master, the problem is that I made a bifi-coil with secondary bifi in the medio of this prim-bifi. And I can just fill a a cap of 2700uf how many time that I want to, and that it! :-\ (battery no discharge). I used copper tuberia. check pic! ;D the volt is just 350v in this cap but can not charge a battery. I want to make this firts an after that; serial charge and parale discharge. Ping pong Tito Toy! ::) :o ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 10, 2016, 01:00:37 PM

http://rpmgt.org/588177.html

Another similar patent, I think:
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-609250-electrical-igniter-gas-engines

Hi Teets! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on November 14, 2016, 05:44:56 PM

I just wanted to know first, why me battery no have been discharged all this time, when I have used with this circuit??? Maybe can use it with.... ::) and get 220v? ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 15, 2016, 03:20:40 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on November 10, 2016, 01:00:37 PM
http://rpmgt.org/588177.html (http://rpmgt.org/588177.html)

Another similar patent, I think:
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-609250-electrical-igniter-gas-engines (http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-609250-electrical-igniter-gas-engines)

Hi Teets! ;D

Yes. :D They are actually the same feather but a little bit different in colors. :)

lets say for example, how many times you can make a make&break or chop chop a fully charge caps in that circuit. lots of excess!!! :o

of course the very faster you can make make&break the bettar. ;)

imagine it makes kicks and automatically convert its kick into big kicks every singule make&break. 8)

if you can make a movement of one electron distance per switch the bettar of course. 8)

lets say a cap is charge from a 12volts, as you make a make&break the charge goes down from 12.something into zero right?, but!!!
now if you can make a very extremely fast make&break, then before charge goes down it can replenish already. 8)

did you got the simple technique everyone? :D

now again, you tell me if i'm not telling the truth. :)

well, just learn to control the huge energy then. ;) 8)

God bless everyone and take care :)

Ting tong toy :-\ ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 15, 2016, 03:29:45 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on November 14, 2016, 05:44:56 PM
I just wanted to know first, why me battery no have been discharged all this time, when I have used with this circuit??? Maybe can use it with.... ::) and get 220v? ???

maybe you got it aren't they? ;D ;)

why not try it as long as your house is not burning. joke, but be careful bud. :)

To perfect it you need some tools here. https://www.google.com.ph/search?q=ADAMS+MOTORS&biw=1517&bih=735&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmovf5tqrQAhWMGZQKHT_rD7kQ_AUIBygC&dpr=0.9#imgrc=_

Ting tong toy ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 15, 2016, 07:00:34 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 15, 2016, 03:20:40 AM

Yes. :D They are actually the same feather but a little bit different in colors. :)

lets say for example, how many times you can make a make&break or chop chop a fully charge caps in that circuit. lots of excess!!! :o

of course the very faster you can make make&break the bettar. ;)

imagine it makes kicks and automatically convert its kick into big kicks every singule make&break. 8)

if you can make a movement of one electron distance per switch the bettar of course. 8)

lets say a cap is charge from a 12volts, as you make a make&break the charge goes down from 12.something into zero right?, but!!!
now if you can make a very extremely fast make&break, then before charge goes down it can replenish already. 8)

did you got the simple technique everyone? :D

now again, you tell me if i'm not telling the truth. :)

well, just learn to control the huge energy then. ;) 8)

God bless everyone and take care :)

Ting tong toy :-\ ;D

Thanks Teets
Just a quick reply before I head out to work...
I'm inclined to pursue the quick charge and discharge with a very small cap - pF sizes. I guess I just have to find which one best works with my coil.
Have a good day.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 16, 2016, 05:31:10 PM

Anybody know what's happened to the evil mad genius cat stupify12?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on November 17, 2016, 10:19:34 AM

You right! I have to perfect this because the relay contact are destroyed very quick. Now Ozone Tesla patent he said;

QuoteThis apparatus involved means for utilizing the intermittent or oscillating discharge of the accumulated electrical energy of a condenser or a circuit possessing capacity in what may be designated the "working" circuit or that which contains the translating devices or means for utilizing such currents.

Which one do you recommends from this circuit :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 12, 2016, 05:20:21 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AvyRSb35i4

This design needs only a little twist and it can turn to a real free energy.

ACTUALLY!!! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 12, 2016, 05:23:40 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on November 17, 2016, 10:19:34 AM
You right! I have to perfect this because the relay contact are destroyed very quick. Now Ozone Tesla patent he said;
Which one do you recommends from this circuit :-*

SORRY BUDDY, I CANNOT RECOMMEND ONE OF THEM BECAUSE
THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT USE TO BE. ??? [size=78%] [/size]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWCUzSpr7Q4
joke ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 13, 2016, 01:33:57 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 12, 2016, 05:20:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AvyRSb35i4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AvyRSb35i4)

This design needs only a little twist and it can turn to a real free energy.

ACTUALLY!!! ;D

Ive been saving all my 'twist' ties from bread bags, so I can make more free energy. ::) ;) Been saving then for 8 years now.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 13, 2016, 12:46:45 PM

Ive tried all kinds of twist. Even this one. Nothin yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj9uEhWeSWQ

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 13, 2016, 09:10:36 PM

There is this kind of twist and that kind of twist. Twist this and twist that. See! Its easy. ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTBhKboufF4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd-J7FOgKZg

Then just plain twisted method :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXi_NVlAC0E

This twist produces strong AC, but only with twist. ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQP-etYU1ps

Propatwistaganda. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ8z2wLAyuY

And finally, here is the twist of all twists. A summary of the Tito Twist. Listen close, this is what the twist is all about for you, and me. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpfZcEjopYE

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 13, 2016, 09:49:15 PM

Quote
SORRY BUDDY, I CANNOT RECOMMEND ONE OF THEM BECAUSE
THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT USE TO BE. ??? joke ;D

I thought I was right! :-[ Joke ;D
Tanks!

Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AvyRSb35i4

This design needs only a little twist and it can turn to a real free energy.

ACTUALLY!!! ;D

I wonder if this little twist is like this? :o ;D 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 14, 2016, 01:49:32 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 13, 2016, 09:10:36 PM
There is this kind of twist and that kind of twist. Twist this and twist that. See! Its easy. ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTBhKboufF4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTBhKboufF4)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd-J7FOgKZg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd-J7FOgKZg)

Then just plain twisted method :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXi_NVlAC0E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXi_NVlAC0E)

This twist produces strong AC, but only with twist. ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQP-etYU1ps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQP-etYU1ps)

Propatwistaganda. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ8z2wLAyuY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ8z2wLAyuY)

And finally, here is the twist of all twists. A summary of the Tito Twist. Listen close, this is what the twist is all about for you, and me. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpfZcEjopYE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpfZcEjopYE)

Mags

Sorry buddy if i hurt you ok.
peace be with you. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYG5-T0135E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErbXiXsyc9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ998LjYre4

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 15, 2016, 07:09:54 AM

Think about.this if the planets magnetic field channels energy from our sun into the planets core then we should be able to tap that energy.
Its about geometry gentlemen, look at nature for clues, a beehive, snowflakes formed in the magnetic field.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 15, 2016, 07:27:40 AM

https://youtu.be/yEYy_nVC4L0

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 15, 2016, 06:13:08 PM

if you want to squeeze someone, don't be so desperate ok?

just pray and God will help you ok.

:D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 15, 2016, 09:39:03 PM

Dear Dave45

Quote

Think about.this if the planets magnetic field channels energy from our sun into the planets core then we should be able to tap that energy.
Its about geometry gentlemen, look at nature for clues, a beehive, snowflakes formed in the magnetic field.

I wish have so kind of knowledge but that is gift from our God ::). Jesus Christ Knew this and his teachings were clear.
Can we used this exactly like that as you showed some time ago?

Thanks beforehand!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 16, 2016, 04:50:51 AM

To be truthful free energy scares me in that once they lose control all hell is going to break out.
Another thing that bothers me is its tied in with sacred geometry its carved into stone from long long ago.
Why, what will it lead to.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 16, 2016, 05:28:27 AM

Without electricity no technology today would be possible.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 16, 2016, 05:50:21 AM

What has man sought from the beginning, knowledge, we were innocent until we partook of the tree of knowledge.
Its interesting that the fruit of the tree of knowledge is represented as an apple- the magnetic field also resembles an apple, Chance ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 16, 2016, 06:00:27 AM

I ran into a roadblock i cant get passed, I'll leave it at that.
Later

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 16, 2016, 06:17:22 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on December 15, 2016, 09:39:03 PM
Dear Dave45

I wish have so kind of knowledge but that is gift from our God ::) . Jesus Christ Knew this and his teachings were clear.
Can we used this exactly like that as you showed some time ago?

Thanks beforehand!

No i came a long way since then, it takes at least 3 coils then 6 never continued

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 16, 2016, 06:32:13 AM

Coils can be arranged in such a way that their fields combine,
Do we really know what we are messing with, once the cat is out of the bag can it ever be put back again.
Can a hole be opened an if so what are the consequences

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 16, 2016, 09:29:29 AM

Thank you Dave45.
Once upon a time a Man said to a Woman of name Esther this Words!

For if you remain silent at this time, relief and deliverance for the Jews will arise from another place, but you and your father's family will perish. And who knows but that you have come to your royal position for such a time as this?

Shalom

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 17, 2016, 09:02:57 PM

I like your quote its from the Torah isn't it?
Im not going talk about certain things but heres something to look at, the buck converter it loses momentum when the switch is off (loses voltage) now think about this a ring magnet is used in a magnetron to spin the electron that is released from the heated thorium, now take a pancake coil an place in the center of ring magnet, whats going to happen when electron@re ran through the coil- the ring magnet will accelerate the electron, adding voltage even when the switch is off.
I havent tried this but was thinking about it, worth a shot.
Maybe someday i will talk about the other, maybe not.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on December 18, 2016, 05:15:47 AM

let one arm of the coil be connected already to the cap when charging it so that it becomes more efficient when caps is discharge , all we need is very small movement of the electron to produce a large output!

P.S. Bigger magwire makes strong magnetic field isn't it?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on December 18, 2016, 05:16:55 AM

Try discharging many caps sequentially on a coil in a high voltage dc then make a pulse with a small current :)
its not the rate of discharge that is important here, its circuit arrangement of capacitor discharging separate from the source to the coil ala tom bearden.
:-*did you try discharging many caps sequentially on a coil? and charging them sequentially also?
take note: NO BATTERY DISCHARGING!

sooo ... how we merge bearden circuit with tesla ozone patent circuit .... titonium ... please

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on December 18, 2016, 05:32:28 AM

discharging a capacitor in a series wound bifilar tesla coil is the real source for free energy :'(

bearden degenerative and tesla ozone

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 18, 2016, 10:07:09 AM

We spend most of our time just looking for a direction, let me give you about eight year head start.
To understand this look at electrolysis, the electrodes put tension on the water molecule an pull it apart. The same thing can be done to our atmosphere a high tension circuit such as the ozone patent creates a stress on air molecules (nitrogen and oxygen molecules) and separates electrons and protons, it actually creates a positive cloud around the negative electrode and a negative cloud around the positive electrode.
Now all you have to do is collect, opposites attract and collect always.
A coil that is pulsed using electrons will become negative and when its fied collapses it will pull positive energy from the atmosphere (cold electricity)
If you then take that positive energy an run it into another coil it becomes positive and when its field collapses it will pull negative energy from the atmosphere.
Combine the two circuits, one to create the tension and the other to collect.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 18, 2016, 10:43:39 AM

An example of the collection circuit, not the exact circuit.
The diode between the coils dampens the oscillation must be moved.
This is just an example not the exact circuit but enough.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 18, 2016, 10:45:39 AM

![ySzksZ](http://i.makeagif.com/media/4-02-2014/ySzksZ.gif)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 18, 2016, 01:10:00 PM

Quote
I like your quote its from the Torah isn't it?
Im not going talk about certain things but heres something to look at, the buck converter it loses momentum when the switch is off (loses voltage) now think about this a ring magnet is used in a magnetron to spin the electron that is released from the heated thorium, now take a pancake coil an place in the center of ring magnet, whats going to happen when electron@re ran through the coil- the ring magnet will accelerate the electron, adding voltage even when the switch is off.
I havent tried this but was thinking about it, worth a shot.
Maybe someday i will talk about the other, maybe not.

It's from old testament, Book Esther 4:14.

Thank you for reply Dave45. :)

I have been follow you hard work in ice an schematic that you have been share with us for love. I just want to tell you Thank you. :)
I will respect you decision, you know what to do and how to with with wisdom. Blessed!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 19, 2016, 07:06:46 AM

A paradox
In the book of Ezekiel GOD tells us exactly how to achieve antigravity, Ezekiel describes HIS chariot in detail.
This is the paradox if we are not supposed to be using this why would HE do that. The wheels are coils except for the one that is parallel to the ground.
I've been stalled for a while thinking about this.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 19, 2016, 07:48:22 AM

Current is a product of electron flow it moves along the outside of the wire in the opposite direction of electron flow.
Nature seeks neutrality this is the reason electron flow is possible in the first place, a high charge moving towards a low charge, this movement creates a current seeking to neutralize the source, the electron is negative the current it produces is positive.
When two charges of opposite polarity meet they become neutral, this is why a normal transformer can never achieve overunity it cancels itself out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 20, 2016, 12:22:09 AM

Quote
A paradox
In the book of Ezekiel GOD tells us exactly how to achieve antigravity, Ezekiel describes HIS chariot in detail.
This is the paradox if we are not supposed to be using this why would HE do that. The wheels are coils except for the one that is parallel to the ground.
I've been stalled for a while thinking about this.
Logged

After this, I was reading Ezekiel book and that scares me, The wheels are coils in reality, because it moving but no spinning. I thing that you Have open a door very very deep. I hope learn more from you!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 20, 2016, 12:36:23 AM

QuoteAfter this, I was reading Ezekiel and that scares me, The wheels are coils in reality, because it moving but no spinning. I thing that you Have open a door very very deep. I hope lear more from you!

I have a question about this quote,

1. The coils are bifi?
2. How suppose to do with the transistor VT5 :(, frequency switch? ???

Sorry for ignorance ???

Thank for the gift :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 20, 2016, 07:39:57 PM

Ezekiels wheels

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 21, 2016, 07:25:28 AM

If the wheels were streams of water what would happen in the center, a vortex would be created. The coils create a vortex in the either a monopole.
I did alot of experiments with the ice, some i did not post.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 21, 2016, 07:55:23 PM

Dave45
Has you see in those experiments with the ice the mystery of levitating or has you some pic?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 22, 2016, 06:00:38 AM

I would rather get back to the collection circut, it was posted by a Russian experimenter a few years back, i believe his name was Akula.
The coils are on separate cores separated wih enough distance between them to keep them isolated so they dont cancel each other out.
The electrodes of the tension circuit have to be separated and one coil goes in close proximity to each electrode.
The tension circuit stresses the air molecules and pulls electrons and protons from the atmosphere the collection circuit attracts and collects.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 22, 2016, 06:44:42 AM

You have to use a flywheel circuit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 22, 2016, 07:22:12 AM

Same circuit just layed out different.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 22, 2016, 08:31:12 AM

L1 thick wire L2 thin wire, same weight.
L1 placed in close proximity to positive electrode
L2 placed in close proximity to negative electrode

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 22, 2016, 10:14:39 AM

Thanks a lot Dave45. Now I begin to understand, that reminds me of the ping pong toy from Tito, but that looks like ping just lol, if we changed the led by a big capacitor ... What would happen! I really do not know. Please continue that we are many following you! :)

This is what we really need, easy and very clear class! :)
Now when we see very clear ... then we will use this 8) 8) and then this ;D Thanks!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 23, 2016, 01:18:45 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 22, 2016, 06:44:42 AM
You have to use a flywheel circuit

Why the inductor in series with the diode?? In my experience, discharging an inductor into an inductor doesnt work well. The collapsing inductor will collapse so fast that the other inductor will impede the current rush. This is if im seeing the circuit right...

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 23, 2016, 07:17:00 PM

QuoteWhy the inductor in series with the diode?? In my experience, discharging an inductor into an inductor doesnt work well. The collapsing inductor will collapse so fast that the other inductor will impede the current rush. This is if im seeing the circuit right...

Mags

Dear Mags maybe we are missed something because Sr. Wattsup look Very happy with this circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 24, 2016, 08:12:45 AM

What makes a coil ring if we only hit it one time with dc.
When the switch turns on the coil builds a neg biased field when the switch turns off the field collapses it brings in pos energy building a pos biased field.
A magnetic field can be pos biased or neg biased, if its pos biased it brings in neg energy if neg biased it brings in pos energy, a coil interacts with the environment if it didn't it would not ring at all.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 24, 2016, 08:36:06 AM

If you are using dc from a battery to pulse a coil you are supplying the electrons the ambient is supplying the protons.
If we had a primary that had absolutely zero self induction and a secondary with a high self induction then you can pump pos energy using dc.
Primary air core toroid- secondary ferrite toroid.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 24, 2016, 08:55:36 AM

To pull negative energy from the environment you have to use positive energy.
A flywheel type circuit must be used or you are just equalizing the charge on your battery faster.
Separate the pos and neg or they just cancel each other out in the environment. Give the field something to collect-tension circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 24, 2016, 09:22:07 AM

Separate the pos an neg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 24, 2016, 11:56:48 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 23, 2016, 01:18:45 AM
Why the inductor in series with the diode?? In my experience, discharging an inductor into an inductor doesnt work well. The collapsing inductor will collapse so fast that the other inductor will impede the current rush. This is if im seeing the circuit right...

Mags

Look at the classic buck converter the diode is in series with the inductor

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 24, 2016, 12:10:04 PM

http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/PSU/psu31.php
This shows the current flow, now reverse the flow to understand the electron flow.
The current moves through the diode in one direction while the electron moves through the diode in the opposite direction.
When the switch is on nothing is going through the diode only when the switch is off.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 24, 2016, 03:50:22 PM

Thank you Dave45 we are learning, I feel that I'm almost there! I hope that mags too!

Tito L. Oracion:

As you usually give to us the Christmas gift :). We are waiting for our Christmas present and I wish it to be about Hendershot connection like the one you have, because I am really confused with the connection :'(! Any diagram ?? ???

We will get ENERGY AMPLIFICATION if GOD willing :o :);D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 24, 2016, 05:33:27 PM

I was thinking about the earths magnetic field and the energy that runs through the planet from pole to pole that energy is dc.
The earths magnetic field channels energy away from the surface an into the poles but the earths magnetic field does not oscillate.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 24, 2016, 05:57:20 PM

The energy may have ripples but it does not oscillate.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 25, 2016, 05:27:34 AM

Here is the example in Circuit Sim. Free sim by Falsatad. And it is working correctly.

The scope shots are in order as...

Left inductor in left circuit in series with diode

Middle inductor in series with load in the left circuit

Right inductor in series with load in right circuit

We can clearly see that the inductor in series with the diode does not allow for freewheeling. It impedes the load inductors field collapse currents. Where in the right circuit you can see the freewheeling happening without the diode inductor.

I used the Stop function in the sim to activate and deactivate both circuits at the same times.

The code for sim

$ 1 5.0E-6 0.018887560283756183 50 5.0 43
s 256 80 320 80 0 1 false
v 320 352 320 80 0 0 40.0 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
l 256 192 256 80 0 9.999999999999999E-5 0.0
l 256 80 112 80 0 9.999999999999999E-5 0.0
r 112 80 112 352 0 1.0
w 112 352 256 352 0
d 256 352 256 192 1 0.805904783
d 624 352 624 192 1 0.805904783
w 480 352 624 352 0
r 480 80 480 352 0 1.0
l 624 80 480 80 0 9.999999999999999E-5 5.204170427930421E-18
v 688 352 688 80 0 0 40.0 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
s 624 80 688 80 0 1 false
w 624 192 624 80 0
w 256 352 320 352 0
w 624 352 688 352 0
o 2 1 0 35 7.62939453125E-5 9.765625E-5 0 -1
o 3 1 0 35 5.0 6.4 1 -1
o 10 1 0 35 5.0 6.4 2 -1

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 25, 2016, 07:03:51 AM

At what frequency?
Were the coils brought into resonance with each other

Were the coils placed in an ionized atmosphere.

This is a buckboost circuit.
The main objective is to get the battery out of the loop.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 25, 2016, 07:46:37 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 25, 2016, 07:03:51 AM
At what frequency?
Were the coils brought into resonance with each other

Were the coils placed in an ionized atmosphere.

This is a buckboost circuit.
The main objective is to get the battery out of the loop.

Yes, what freq do you expect to resonate 1uh coils?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 25, 2016, 08:12:13 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on December 24, 2016, 03:50:22 PM
Thank you Dave45 we are learning, I feel that I'm almost there! I hope that mags too!

Tito L. Oracion:

As you usually give to us the Christmas gift :) . We are waiting for our Christmas present and I wish it to be about Hendershot connection like the one you have, because I am really confused with the connection :'( ! Any diagram ?? ???

We will get ENERGY AMPLIFICATION if GOD willing :o :) ;D

Everything is possible if it was done right, right? :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcZunkK2cs8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcZunkK2cs8)

basically we only need something flow to make energy then transfer it, and we must only know which way is flowing right?, right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjRoHBq8sQU&t=2s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjRoHBq8sQU&t=2s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICP3DkD8l-k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICP3DkD8l-k)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8cchDzahmE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8cchDzahmE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H9DI3EeqGY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H9DI3EeqGY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDOsPexvB8E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDOsPexvB8E)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h68AulpGNUQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h68AulpGNUQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp6htqjPb0Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp6htqjPb0Q)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALGnS3eAOCg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALGnS3eAOCg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niBAyyyr_wU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niBAyyyr_wU)
http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/11816/is-it-possible-to-fire-a-spark-plug-from-batteries
Merry Christmass everyone!!! ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 25, 2016, 11:04:37 PM

Quote
Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 25, 2016, 08:12:13 PM

Everything is possible if it was done right, right? :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcZunkK2cs8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcZunkK2cs8)

basically we only need something flow to make energy then transfer it, and we must only know which way is flowing right?, right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjRoHBq8sQU&t=2s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjRoHBq8sQU&t=2s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICP3DkD8l-k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICP3DkD8l-k)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8cchDzahmE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8cchDzahmE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H9DI3EeqGY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H9DI3EeqGY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDOsPexvB8E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDOsPexvB8E)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h68AulpGNUQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h68AulpGNUQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp6htqjPb0Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp6htqjPb0Q)
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https://www.google.com.ph/search?q=kml+wire&biw=1366&bih=662&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjN8aHFzpDRAhVImpQKHRTPAoAQ_AUIBigB&dpr=1#q=kml+wire&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:Ca3jzHIGBvoxIjjjL_1xx5EWutow8wEcRnjoKQfimV5chjCAcGlbSMc-1dpzHr7Lho3uVnKbIn80BEmxYDNPrl1BUDyoSCeMv_1HHkRa62ETOsyFEyHqoqKhIJjDzARxGeOgoRkvnWAXzevaMqEglB-KZXlyGMIBGNiAvOXPFutSoSCRwaVtIxz7V2EQHhuxRk6BJuKhIJnMevsuGje5UR3-7M9eQlTAEqEgmcpsifzQESbBHX4I3xPSCpQioSCVgM0-uXUFQPEcjPyyr3BBvT&imgrc=8syE1JWUhP9mcM%3A (https://www.google.com.ph/search?q=kml+wire&biw=1366&bih=662&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjN8aHFzpDRAhVImpQKHRTPAoAQ_AUIBigB&dpr=1#q=kml+wire&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:Ca3jzHIGBvoxIjjjL_1xx5EWutow8wEcRnjoKQfimV5chjCAcGlbSMc-1dpzHr7Lho3uVnKbIn80BEmxYDNPrl1BUDyoSCeMv_1HHkRa62ETOsyFEyHqoqKhIJjDzARxGeOgoRkvnWAXzevaMqEglB-KZXlyGMIBGNiAvOXPFutSoSCRwaVtIxz7V2EQHhuxRk6BJuKhIJnMevsuGje5UR3-7M9eQlTAEqEgmcpsifzQESbBHX4I3xPSCpQioSCVgM0-uXUFQPEcjPyyr3BBvT&imgrc=8syE1JWUhP9mcM%3A)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALGnS3eAOCg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALGnS3eAOCg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niBAyyyr_wU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niBAyyyr_wU)
http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/11816/is-it-possible-to-fire-a-spark-plug-from-batteries
Merry Christmass everyone!!! ;)

Thank you so much Master, I have already download and save every video and Page. Now to study.

And Remember all Christ is the true Christmas. Amen.

Merry Christmas everyone. :);D 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 26, 2016, 06:35:21 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on December 25, 2016, 07:46:37 PM
Yes, what freq do you expect to resonate 1uh coils?

Mags

Sorry the components are not to spec.

In your opinion does the pos and neg biased fields make sense, would it account for the coil ring.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 26, 2016, 07:16:17 AM

Will the theory give us some insight as to how we design circuits.
Separate and collect

Example

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 26, 2016, 07:45:20 AM

If we look at how the planets magnetic field works we can gain some insight.
The magnetic field acts as a shield channeling the radioactive particles from the sun away from the surface, but how. The particles must be attracted to the field or they would pass right through it.
If we ionize a field then let it collapse we pull more energy in.

If we look at how an air purifier works we gain more insight, its about pos an neg charge and the separation of those charges.
The ether remains in a neutral state most of the time it seeks neutrality, pos and neg combined is neutrality.
We have to stress it, separate the charge then collect.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 26, 2016, 09:13:04 AM

Entertaining ideas

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 26, 2016, 09:21:22 AM

Try that again ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 26, 2016, 12:01:18 PM

If someone can offer a rational explanation in layman's terms as to what makes a coil ring i would like to hear it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 26, 2016, 12:13:30 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 26, 2016, 06:35:21 AM
Sorry the components are not to spec.

In your opinion does the pos and neg biased fields make sense, would it account for the coil ring.

Not sure what you are getting at. In the simple circuit all seems to be operating DC and or pulsed DC, and a freewheeling DC. Not sure where an AC oscillation would occur. In the sim, Falstad seems to have instilled some capacitance in the inductor programing as there are times that an inductor can be seen oscillating at very high freq when there is no where for the collapse currents to go. In sim its sorta an ideal environment when it comes to a switch turning on and off where there is no spark across the switch contacts when it opens, so that gives the collapse currents in certain circuit configs no where to go.

I had some tough arguments with Zeropoint132 years ago on diodes. He had shown me 2 circuits with bridged rectifiers, on showing the input going pos swing and the other circuit with the input going neg swing. He seemed to believe that one circuit was a bridge rectifier and the other not, but they were both exactly the same, except for showing one as a pos swing input and the other a neg input swing.

Id play with the sim and the code I gave. When the switch opens, the inductor in series with the load collapses, the diode leg inductor blocks current flow, from what I see, pretty much completely. So the charge built in the load inductor ends up being wasted and just disipates. Worked a lot with this stuff back in the day in this thread.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on December 26, 2016, 02:10:50 PM

Hi dave, the magnetic pulse in the wire causes a mechanical movement of the wire and the frequency is based on the material and how secure it is from movement.
Can sound be caused by a wire with a magnetic pulse, even if no detectable movement of wire is present, probably.
peace love light

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 26, 2016, 02:35:56 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 26, 2016, 12:01:18 PM
If someone can offer a rational explanation in layman's terms as to what makes a coil ring i would like to hear it.

Dave,
Thanks for your posts as of late. I have come to the same basic understanding of this setup, and recall that you were proposing this a few years ago. I just couldn't grasp it at the time.
I don't really know the answer to your question with absolute certainty, but I'll take a stab...

We normally see the ringing effect with an L-C setup.
If we look to Don Smith's work, he says that the dielectric provides the energy that exits a pulsed capacitor.
If we have a coil (without a cap) ringing, I'm assuming that this may be possible because of the coil's own capacitance, and if this is the case, I'd borrow DS's reasoning and say that the dielectric or ambient is providing the second half of the coil's ring.
From this perspective, a coil (like a capacitor) can be understood as an open system, and really, there are really no closed systems, though efforts are made to keep the ambient from interacting with circuits.

What intrigues me about this whole setup is the role that Lenz' law plays, responding to the positive kick - making it possible to have the push-pull kind of effect that we see in the boost-buck circuits you've been posting.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tysb3 on December 27, 2016, 11:58:50 PM

@ Bob Smith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mi1nBNokrU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2016, 09:16:42 AM

Quote from: tysb3 on December 27, 2016, 11:58:50 PM
@ Bob Smith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mi1nBNokrU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mi1nBNokrU)

See the open coils might they be ionizing the field ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 28, 2016, 09:18:43 AM

Pos and Neg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on December 28, 2016, 09:27:27 AM

Tito

Don't you think you have kept people guessing long enough? Your first working device was based on these patents wasn't it.

Carlos Benitez Patents
17811
14311
5591
121561

Calculations per patent 121561
Desired Output Current (amps)                           20
Frequency of AC supply                              500
Watts furnished to the supply transformer                     100
Efficiency rating of supply transformer (%)                     80
Impedance of oscillating circuit (ohms)                        10

Watts delivered by secondary of supply transformer               80
Supply transformer secondary, volts needed to charge condenser         400
Current delivered by secondary of supply transformer (amps)         0.2
Coulombs delivered to condenser by secondary of supply transformer      0.0002
Condenser capacity required (microfarads)                     0.5
Inductance of oscillating circuit (millihenrys)                     0.028125
Convert mh to cm                                 28125
Oscillations per second                              42441.9825696732
Oscillations per spark                                 42.4419825697
Current discharged by condenser (amps)                     19.9999945661

Cheers
Cadman

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 28, 2016, 07:24:53 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 28, 2016, 09:16:42 AM
See the open coils might they be ionizing the field ;)

Yes, about 7 minutes into the video, that is what struck me as well. I don't speak Russian, but "resonancia" keeps being mentioned, and so balance between coils to allow for sympathetic resonance must be important.

I noticed a few other things about this setup:
- that the off time for the square wave pulse in the duty cycle was much longer than the on time.
- that when the square wave pulse went off, the negative energy began to show up.
- that the system seemed to be load driven - more bulbs lit, more amperage drawn, wider negative on the sine wave following the square wave impulse.

Tito has mentioned a number of times the importance of a unidirectional pulse, which I take to be a positive pulse. I would see the square wave impulse as proof of concept in this.
The other thing that seems evident to me in this is the push-pull factor is important. I think the scope shows that this in fact is happening, and I believe it also demonstrates with the two open coils in the primary what Dave has been saying.

For me, the two open coils produce their ionizing effect by widening the window of potential difference between them. I would see that in this way, they can draw in greater amounts of charge from the ambient electrostatic medium.

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 28, 2016, 07:27:04 PM

Quote from: tysb3 on December 27, 2016, 11:58:50 PM
@ Bob Smith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mi1nBNokrU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mi1nBNokrU)

Thanks tysb3! Great video!
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tysb3 on December 28, 2016, 10:00:19 PM

@ Bob Smith
the open coils (bifilar) are made from aluminum foil. they are keeping resonance while connecting load.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 29, 2016, 03:06:41 AM

Quote from: Cadman on December 28, 2016, 09:27:27 AM
Tito

Don't you think you have kept people guessing long enough? Your first working device was based on these patents wasn't it.

Carlos Benitez Patents
17811
14311
5591
121561

Calculations per patent 121561
Desired Output Current (amps) 20
Frequency of AC supply 500
Watts furnished to the supply transformer 100
Efficiency rating of supply transformer (%) 80
Impedance of oscillating circuit (ohms) 10

Watts delivered by secondary of supply transformer 80
Supply transformer secondary, volts needed to charge condenser 400
Current delivered by secondary of supply transformer (amps) 0.2
Coulombs delivered to condenser by secondary of supply transformer 0.0002
Condenser capacity required (microfarads) 0.5
Inductance of oscillating circuit (millihenrys) 0.028125
Convert mh to cm 28125
Oscillations per second 42441.9825696732
Oscillations per spark 42.4419825697
Current discharged by condenser (amps) 19.9999945661

Cheers
Cadman

Well, i used that in one of my projects. I'm just actually focusing on magnifying transmitter and alfred hubbard's technology cause those are the most superior for me. :D

The magnifying transmitter is actually the perfection of tesla's AC technology.
And hubbard's device is the retail tech of themagnifying transmitter. ;)

If somebody will discover the series increasing of charge in the source then thats it, you are very lucky, cause that is the real secret to everything that is missing in this field of experimentation and study. 8) 8)

Otits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2016, 08:42:59 AM

Freewheeling boost converter
Overunity-no
When the switch is on the electron bypasses the load

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 29, 2016, 10:43:38 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 29, 2016, 03:06:41 AM

Well, i used that in one of my projects. I'm just actually focusing on magnifying transmitter and alfred hubbard's technology cause those are the most superior for me. :D

The magnifying transmitter is actually the perfection of tesla's AC technology.
And hubbard's device is the retail tech of themagnifying transmitter. ;)

If somebody will discover the series increasing of charge in the source then thats it, you are very lucky, cause that is the real secret to everything that is missing in this field of experimentation and study. 8) 8)

Otits ;D

Otiti,the magnifying transmitter is only one from the stational parts from the round earth-ball transporting ELF wave which will then become absorved by an antenna like Wardenclyffe,
so if someone means that "with only" this transmitter the overunity-gain will become real has to explain how and why ?
http://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/Tesla/Harnessing-IntroChapter.pdf (http://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/Tesla/Harnessing-IntroChapter.pdf)
http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~callen/energy_harvesting/Corum2003TeslaRxpp7.pdf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2016, 10:44:59 AM

The buck converter is a better candidate
The electron always moves through the load
The freewheeling effect

The downside the electron losses momentum(voltage) when the switch is off.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2016, 11:19:05 AM

A permanent magnetic field excerpts a force on a current carrying wire, if the wire is fixed and cannot be moved does the permanent magnetic field excerpt a force on the electron within that wire?

Could we use a permanent magnetic field to accelerate the electron within a wire.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2016, 11:34:21 AM

Can we subject the added coil in this diagram to a permanent magnetic field and add acceleration to the electrons.
Say a pancake coil inside of a ring magnet.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 29, 2016, 11:44:22 AM

Dave45 Thank you for Enlighten us. :) :D NEXT ;D AND NEXT 8)

watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPiUSCQIKC4

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 29, 2016, 09:25:07 PM

Akula shows the system being pulsed by an npn transistor, if you study the caps- C1 just doesn't work.
But if you use a pnp transistor it works

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 30, 2016, 07:29:24 AM

Look at the two coils this is a buck boost system the diode determines the direction of current and electron flow, it is placed on the backside of the coil as to not dampen the oscillation between the two inductors.
The left coil gets hit with a pos pulse its return is neg and pulses the right coil the right coil gives back a pos return, they set up an oscillation between each other. Its like a swing with a person on each side pushing at just the right time, the ionized fields provide the energy needed.
Bring the two coils into resonance with each other- timing- one hit one return.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 30, 2016, 07:44:54 AM

There should not be a diode anywhere between the two inductors.
A voltage regulator can be used to keep the cap in check on the left side of the circuit where the diode is, the circuit app im using doesn't allow me to show it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 30, 2016, 08:18:22 AM

The same circuit just layed out in a more recognizable form.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 30, 2016, 08:25:44 AM

If a feedback winding was used to trigger the transistor you could possibly get into a runaway situation.
If you build two inductors that resonate at the same frequency they are going to resonate with each other.
You can raise the voltage in the system by using smaller wire in the right inductor but not too small because you are limiting current and the two inductors must still resonate at the same frequency.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 30, 2016, 09:51:31 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on December 30, 2016, 08:25:44 AM
If a feedback winding was used to trigger the transistor you could possibly get into a runaway situation.
If you build two inductors that resonate at the same frequency they are going to resonate with each other.
You can raise the voltage in the system by using smaller wire in the right inductor but not too small because you are limiting current and the two inductors must still resonate at the same frequency.

I like those words ;D;D;D;D That is what we looking for run away from ppl bill :o :o :o

I am thinking of making a book with your words and diagrams that you are teaching us. Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 30, 2016, 10:12:17 AM

Tito talk to me what is missing in this pic. ....A diode??? :D

Quotelet say we have a awg#14 wire as core and a awg#22 then make the awg#22 a bipilar and perpendicular to the awg#14. The source is AA batery, then pulse it and check the energy created in awg#14 ;). ooooops: i forgot, there should be an extended wire of atleast awg#8 connected in the awg#22 to do the magic. ;D

QuoteThat is a joint coil the primary and secondary right?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on December 31, 2016, 07:46:26 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on December 30, 2016, 10:12:17 AM
Tito talk to me what is missing in this pic. ....A diode??? :D

Nonsense!!

THAT diagram is taken from a Patent that requires highly radioactive components in order to amplify the input.. DO NOt confuse OVERUNITY (which doesn't exist) with FREE ENERGY (which is all around us).

Tito is a LIAR and has been wasting your time for years.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2016, 08:43:22 AM

http://www.explainthatstuff.com/how-magnetrons-work.html
The ring magnet spins the electron but does it accelerate the electron,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2016, 09:19:06 AM

The buck converter shows us the electron can be used over and over again its energy is dependent on its acceleration.
If the battery is 12v when the switch is on you will have 12v across the load but when the switch turns off the voltage drops, the electron keeps moving through the circuit but its attractive force has been removed so it slows down the voltage drops.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2016, 09:42:16 AM

So if we take a pancake coil an place it in the center of the ring magnet then run electrons into the middle is the magnetic field going to accelerate the electrons.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2016, 11:55:28 AM

:) :) :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: John.K1 on December 31, 2016, 03:00:17 PM

Hi Dave.

I was trying to accelerate electrons myself as well with a little bit different construction. I did it wrong and need to rebuild. Silly mistake :) My opinion is such : You have certain amount of energy which you can use to create attractive force for free ambient electrons/ions. All this energy can cause local temporary acceleration of free electrons(due to attraction of free electrons). But what happen when we distribute and switch- this amount of energy from place to place around bigger space and to create vortex. I believe we can then observe two effects- suction effect and increase of energy as each ion attracted to new place already carry kinetic energy from the previous place it was attracted to. And if this will spin around some coil it might act as a small magnets (electrons are small magnets) drugging that coil and to create current?? I know, it is actually principle of motor, but in this case magnets(electrons) are spinning around in enormous speed and solid state.

Just messing with imagination :D

Happy New Year guys and High COP ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2016, 07:58:42 PM

Happy New Year :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on December 31, 2016, 08:11:50 PM

ss n machine

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 01, 2017, 07:52:42 AM

Starting to get the idea yet?
Now riddle me this, what would happen if you had two magnets facing N to N and you placed the pancake coil in between, what would happen when electrons are ran through the coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 01, 2017, 08:12:16 AM

I'll tell you what happens they are expelled with a high velocity.
Happy New Year

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: John.K1 on January 01, 2017, 09:07:57 AM

So, can you boost it with HV ? :) Changing High potential to High kinetic? :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 01, 2017, 09:10:16 AM

You've got two souths pulling, one north expelling.
Follow the electron flow neg to pos.
Two pancake coils between two north facing ring magnets

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 01, 2017, 09:35:51 AM

Look at it like this you've got three magnets lined up end to end the middle one is an electron if the outer magnets are nsns the electron sticks but if the outer magnets are snns the middle magnet the electron is expelled, it cant line up.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 01, 2017, 11:48:30 AM

What would happen if this pancake coil were placed between the two poles of, let's say...

a Leedskalnin PMH?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 01, 2017, 01:10:22 PM

:) :) :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 01, 2017, 07:37:40 PM

Makes me wonder what three pancake coils would do, how would this stress the electrons in the center coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on January 01, 2017, 08:31:56 PM

hi i see electricity as a fluid. let say water.. an N machine generate very high current which is equivalent to lots of water at low pressure. a normal generator generate high voltage equivalent to high water pressure. why not combine the two and get a super efficient generator..further more why not find out exactly why this is so and then design a non moving part generator..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 01, 2017, 10:06:07 PM

Quote from: endlessoceans on December 31, 2016, 07:46:26 AM

Nonsense!!

THAT diagram is taken from a Patent that requires highly radioactive components in order to amplify the input.. DO NOt confuse OVERUNITY (which doesn't exist) with FREE ENERGY (which is all around us).

Tito is a LIAR and has been wasting your time for years.

Ya, do not be confuse with what you are saying, free energy is somehow created from your over unity device. 8)

I don't know you and you don't know me, how come I'm an easily liar. :o
liar is the one that is working from the electric company or gov. That prohibit everyone to pursue into something. :P
Or an mib.
And that is more sensible than what you think is sensible. ;D

Hey, Overunity does exist, you can't fool us by just saying that, we were not born yesterday. ;D

Hello! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 02, 2017, 04:59:39 PM

Quote from: seychelles on January 01, 2017, 08:31:56 PM
hi i see electricity as a fluid. let say water.. an N machine generate very high current which is equivalent to lots of water at low pressure. a normal generator generate high voltage equivalent to high water pressure. why not combine the two and get a super efficient generator..further more why not find out exactly why this is so and then design a non moving part generator..

Generators and alternators are current cycling machines, the buck converter is the solid state equivalent of a generator.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 02, 2017, 05:33:28 PM

The efficiency is increased if the diode is replaced with a switch.
Synchronous switching

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 02, 2017, 05:48:29 PM

Im wondering how a bifilar pancake coil would work ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 03, 2017, 09:28:01 AM

And... That what for me??? ??? ;D 8)

Quote
Ya, do not be confuse with what you are saying, free energy is somehow created from your over unity device. 8)

I don't know you and you don't know me, how come I'm an easily liar. :o
liar is the one that is working from the electric company or gov. That prohibit everyone to pursue into something. :P
Or an mib.
And that is more sensible than what you think is sensible. ;D

Hey, Overunity does exist, you can't fool us by just saying that, we were not born yesterday. ;D

Hello! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 04, 2017, 09:18:48 AM

Bifilar

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 08, 2017, 11:22:00 AM

Charge separation

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 08, 2017, 02:10:24 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 08, 2017, 11:22:00 AM
Charge separation

Dear Dave45...

I have been meditating and studying ozone patent on the great truth that the source of energy is the self-induction, after seeing many times this short video, thank to GOD I understood. And I have more of the same.

Now Dave45, I know that you know how is the connection of the primary-bifilar with the secondary, who is who actually does the magic. Please if you are so kind to put the diagram here. We will thank you very much!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 08, 2017, 11:52:55 PM

Look like this... :D ;) ::)

And... Why does there always have to be a lot of self-induction coil? ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 09, 2017, 12:06:04 AM

And... what would happen if we put together this the above with this...

I'm sure Tito L. Oracion, can help us :D

But I'm sure that I missed something because I can not get what I looking for :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on January 09, 2017, 02:58:16 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on January 09, 2017, 12:06:04 AM
And... what would happen if we put together this the above with this...

I'm sure Tito L. Oracion, can help us :D

But I'm sure that I missed something because I can not get what I looking for :'(

Hey Leoelgb/Tito Oracion/Forest/AlienGrey etc

So I was looking at your internet address and you are all the same person. So to not waste time here and the rest of the forum members here are some questions for you TITO or whatever your real name is.

1) 8 Years ago you thanked many of the forum members here for helping you discover free energy. You promised that "in a little while you would let everyone know the secret" WELL ITS 8 YEARS LATER IDIOT AND AFTER MAKING A MILLION EXCUSES YOU HAVENT!!! Interesting...you claim to be a follower of Christ but seems you follow your Father SATAN who was a liar from the beginning. LOL

2) You don't have overunity.... LIE AGAIN

3) You claimed that ONE of the reasons you do not tell others here that you will not release the secret is because you are afraid for your life. THIS MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL". Why keep posting hints supposedly trying to help people find the secret over 8 Years and draw attention to yourself???????? I Mean if you really have free energy why not be happy and just go sell bananas oR ice water or whatever it is you do in the Phillippines!!!. You must also be most stupid person on the planet that after having OU for 8 years you have not even been able to make one device and sell to an investor?????????? LMAO

4) EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR YOUTUBE LINKS IS A FRAUD.

5) So what exactly are you doing here? Are you on medication? Are you off medications ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ? WHATEVER YOU ARE TAKING YOU NEED TO EITHER DOUBLE THE DOSE OR HALVE IT?

6) In case you missed it earlier YOU ARE A LIAR AND TIME WASTER

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 09, 2017, 06:12:52 AM

Quote from: endlessoceans on January 09, 2017, 02:58:16 AM

Hey Leoelgb/Tito Oracion/Forest/AlienGrey etc

So I was looking at your internet address and you are all the same person. So to not waste time here and the rest of the forum members here are some questions for you TITO or whatever your real name is.

1) 8 Years ago you thanked many of the forum members here for helping you discover free energy. You promised that "in a little while you would let everyone know the secret" WELL ITS 8 YEARS LATER IDIOT AND AFTER MAKING A MILLION EXCUSES YOU HAVENT!!! Interesting...you claim to be a follower of Christ but seems you follow your Father SATAN who was a liar from the beginning. LOL

2) You don't have overunity.... LIE AGAIN

3) You claimed that ONE of the reasons you do not tell others here that you will not release the secret is because you are afraid for your life. THIS MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL". Why keep posting hints supposedly trying to help people find the secret over 8 Years and draw attention to yourself? ??? ??? ? I Mean if you really have free energy why not be happy and just go sell bananas oR ice water or whatever it is you do in the Phillippines!!!. You must also be most stupid person on the planet that after having OU for 8 years you have not even been able to make one device and sell to an investor? ??? ??? ??? LMAO

4) EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR YOUTUBE LINKS IS A FRAUD.

5) So what exactly are you doing here? Are you on medication? Are you off medications ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ? WHATEVER YOU ARE TAKING YOU NEED TO EITHER DOUBLE THE DOSE OR HALVE IT?

6) In case you missed it earlier YOU ARE A LIAR AND TIME WASTER

:-* :-* :-*

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 09, 2017, 06:23:29 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on January 09, 2017, 12:06:04 AM
And... what would happen if we put together this the above with this...

I'm sure Tito L. Oracion, can help us :D

But I'm sure that I missed something because I can not get what I looking for :'(

ok!.

One thing that everyone should know about free energy is:
let say you made a cut then in secondary, instead of one coil we should use many coil, why? because in every coil we can get extra increase,
therefore if we have many small coils then we have lots of free extras, got it! >:( :D ;)
haven't you notice and seen these in charging caps, that when you charge them and connect in serie after charge you get more increase than the source. 8)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 09, 2017, 06:55:46 AM

Quote from: endlessoceans on January 09, 2017, 02:58:16 AM

Hey Leoelgb/Tito Oracion/Forest/AlienGrey etc

So I was looking at your internet address and you are all the same person. So to not waste time here and the rest of the forum members here are some questions for you TITO or whatever your real name is.

1) 8 Years ago you thanked many of the forum members here for helping you discover free energy. You promised that "in a little while you would let everyone know the secret" WELL ITS 8 YEARS LATER IDIOT AND AFTER MAKING A MILLION EXCUSES YOU HAVENT!!! Interesting...you claim to be a follower of Christ but seems you follow your Father SATAN who was a liar from the beginning. LOL

2) You don't have overunity.... LIE AGAIN

3) You claimed that ONE of the reasons you do not tell others here that you will not release the secret is because you are afraid for your life. THIS MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL". Why keep posting hints supposedly trying to help people find the secret over 8 Years and draw attention to yourself? ??? ??? ? I Mean if you really have free energy why not be happy and just go sell bananas oR ice water or whatever it is you do in the Phillippines!!!. You must also be most stupid person on the planet that after having OU for 8 years you have not even been able to make one device and sell to an investor? ??? ??? ??? LMAO

4) EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR YOUTUBE LINKS IS A FRAUD.

5) So what exactly are you doing here? Are you on medication? Are you off medications ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ? WHATEVER YOU ARE TAKING YOU NEED TO EITHER DOUBLE THE DOSE OR HALVE IT?

6) In case you missed it earlier YOU ARE A LIAR AND TIME WASTER

Sorry buddy i have no time for this anymore ok! :'( ;D
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on January 09, 2017, 07:47:52 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 09, 2017, 06:23:29 AM

ok!.

One thing that everyone should know about free energy is:
let say you made a cut then in secondary, instead of one coil we should use many coil, why? because in every coil we can get extra increase,

Like this: https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A# ?

therefore if we have many small coils then we have lots of free extras, got it! >:( :D ;)
haven't you notice and seen these in charging caps, that when you charge them and connect in serie after charge you get more increase than the source. 8)

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 09, 2017, 08:34:29 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 09, 2017, 06:23:29 AM

ok!.

One thing that everyone should know about free energy is:
let say you made a cut then in secondary, instead of one coil we should use many coil, why? because in every coil we can get extra increase,
therefore if we have many small coils then we have lots of free extras, got it! >:( :D ;)
haven't you notice and seen these in charging caps, that when you charge them and connect in serie after charge you get more increase than the source. 8)

;D

Thank you Sir. Let me see how can I get it. ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on January 09, 2017, 06:05:12 PM

Quote from: endlessoceans on January 09, 2017, 02:58:16 AM

Hey Leoelgb/Tito Oracion/Forest/AlienGrey etc

So I was looking at your internet address and you are all the same person. So to not waste time here and the rest of the forum members here are some questions for you TITO or whatever your real name is.

1) 8 Years ago you thanked many of the forum members here for helping you discover free energy. You promised that "in a little while you would let everyone know the secret" WELL ITS 8 YEARS LATER IDIOT AND AFTER MAKING A MILLION EXCUSES YOU HAVENT!!! Interesting...you claim to be a follower of Christ but seems you follow your Father SATAN who was a liar from the beginning. LOL

2) You don't have overunity.... LIE AGAIN

3) You claimed that ONE of the reasons you do not tell others here that you will not release the secret is because you are afraid for your life. THIS MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL". Why keep posting hints supposedly trying to help people find the secret over 8 Years and draw attention to yourself???????? I Mean if you really have free energy why not be happy and just go sell bananas oR ice water or whatever it is you do in the Phillippines!!!. You must also be most stupid person on the planet that after having OU for 8 years you have not even been able to make one device and sell to an investor?????????? LMAO

4) EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR YOUTUBE LINKS IS A FRAUD.

5) So what exactly are you doing here? Are you on medication? Are you off medications ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ? WHATEVER YOU ARE TAKING YOU NEED TO EITHER DOUBLE THE DOSE OR HALVE IT?

6) In case you missed it earlier YOU ARE A LIAR AND TIME WASTER

Very Fair questions....simple and easy to answer but only if you can tell the TRUTH. TITO...This is something you have not done ever.

TITO,,,You reply and say "sorry buddy I have no time". LMAO. Yeh I bet you have no time!!!! You have 8 years to post nonsense and lies and yet you cant answer simple questions. YOU couldn't deny the allegations because unlike you I have the proof and you have now been caught out.

So which is it TITO.....you are afraid for your life or you just love the attention? Well....it seems the attention is dying and nobody will ask you questions anymore so what do you do????? YOU come here under the identity of at least 7 different usernames and you praise yourself!!!! Hahahahaha. YOu know what professionals class this as? MENTAL ILLNESS!!!

Please seek medical help Tito, you really are pathetic.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on January 09, 2017, 10:17:35 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 09, 2017, 06:23:29 AM

ok!.

One thing that everyone should know about free energy is:
let say you made a cut then in secondary, instead of one coil we should use many coil, why? because in every coil we can get extra increase,
therefore if we have many small coils then we have lots of free extras, got it! >:( :D ;)
haven't you notice and seen these in charging caps, that when you charge them and connect in serie after charge you get more increase than the source. 8)

;D

Hey Teets
The way I understand it, properly configured secondary coils will amplify voltage and will not interfere with the primary's resonance. This means, like you said, we can add as many of these coils as we want. IST was doing it years ago with the JT, Stupify mentioned it on this thread. Perhaps people have forgotten...
Regarding the caps, the C-W Voltage Multiplier comes to mind.
Happy New Year!
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on January 10, 2017, 04:37:06 AM

hi Bob ... hope you give on some link about IST post and stupify21 ...

link i get : http://overunity.com/9143/single-wire-joule-thiefs/#.WHSsK7no3VI

'so how about rewinding a bifillar secondary on the mot and jt it ... or ....
so you keep the origonal primary remove secondary make it a NEW BIFILLAR PRIMARY and the origonal turns into a secondary .. that can handle some amps ...
you could also use the CENTER WINDING AS A PULSE SECONDARY AS A CHOKE .. PRIMARY AS OUTPUT ..

ist

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on January 10, 2017, 08:25:50 AM

A capacitor charged to 30kv is real good at giving instantaneous current flows of millions of amps. A million amps going through a few hundred turns is alot of magnetic field flux storage.
Magnetic flux is equal to ampere turns.

quote from 'sparks' ...:http://overunity.com/5772/teslas-magnifying-transmitter-amplify-electricity/msg216320/#msg216320

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 10, 2017, 11:36:13 AM

magnetic field is the source of energy :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 10, 2017, 06:29:38 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on January 09, 2017, 10:17:35 PM
Hey Teets
The way I understand it, properly configured secondary coils will amplify voltage and will not interfere with the primary's resonance. This means, like you said, we can add as many of these coils as we want. IST was doing it years ago with the JT, Stupify mentioned it on this thread. Perhaps people have forgotten...
Regarding the caps, the C-W Voltage Multiplier comes to mind.
Happy New Year!
Bob

My previous post is included here: the 25% and 75%^, now, the voltage is actually when you make series and the current is depending on the thickness of the awg you used, simple huh. and that is efficient! :) 8)

note: should be one way or else source discharge immediately ok?. ;) 8)

bye friend.
God bless ;)
:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 10, 2017, 06:31:18 PM

Quote from: forest on January 10, 2017, 11:36:13 AM
magnetic field is the source of energy :-*

It is strange, it seems as if people here are ignoring the most important details about free energy and those who know the answer most are afraid to answer the most important questions

Quote
I have been meditating and studying ozone patent on the great truth that the source of energy is the self-induction, after seeing many times this short video, thank to GOD I understood. And I have more of the same.

Now Dave45, I know that you know how is the connection of the primary-bifilar with the secondary, who is who actually does the magic. Please if you are so kind to put the diagram here. We will thank you very much!

* jdub2.AVI (2879.08 kB - downloaded 38 times.)

QuoteHendershot connection like the one you have, because I am really confused with the connection :'(! Any diagram ?? ???

Anyway here there a hero for me who is...T ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 10, 2017, 06:32:09 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 09, 2017, 09:47:44 AM

Maybe you can make some time for me.....

I am actually one of your fan why you want quarelling. :-\ :D

i actually learned a lot from you. thank you and God bless. :)
bye sir.

:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 10, 2017, 06:41:12 PM

Quote from: endlessoceans on January 09, 2017, 02:58:16 AM

Hey Leoelgb/Tito Oracion/Forest/AlienGrey etc

So I was looking at your internet address and you are all the same person. So to not waste time here and the rest of the forum members here are some questions for you TITO or whatever your real name is.

1) 8 Years ago you thanked many of the forum members here for helping you discover free energy. You promised that "in a little while you would let everyone know the secret" WELL ITS 8 YEARS LATER IDIOT AND AFTER MAKING A MILLION EXCUSES YOU HAVENT!!! Interesting...you claim to be a follower of Christ but seems you follow your Father SATAN who was a liar from the beginning. LOL

2) You don't have overunity.... LIE AGAIN

3) You claimed that ONE of the reasons you do not tell others here that you will not release the secret is because you are afraid for your life. THIS MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL". Why keep posting hints supposedly trying to help people find the secret over 8 Years and draw attention to yourself? ??? ??? ? I Mean if you really have free energy why not be happy and just go sell bananas oR ice water or whatever it is you do in the Phillippines!!!. You must also be most stupid person on the planet that after having OU for 8 years you have not even been able to make one device and sell to an investor? ??? ??? ??? LMAO

4) EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR YOUTUBE LINKS IS A FRAUD.

5) So what exactly are you doing here? Are you on medication? Are you off medications ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ? WHATEVER YOU ARE TAKING YOU NEED TO EITHER DOUBLE THE DOSE OR HALVE IT?

6) In case you missed it earlier YOU ARE A LIAR AND TIME WASTER

oh how pity you are, tsk, tsk tsk. i'm graduate to this buddy i was actually learning through the years and i don't go back to that. sorry.

for those that knows, they believe i am not a liar, and for those with the same feather with you, i understand you, one thing , moved on ok!
;D

bye boy. ;D

anyway any how God bless still ;) :-*

[size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 10, 2017, 06:44:47 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on January 10, 2017, 06:31:18 PM
It is strange, it seems as if people here are ignoring the most important details about free energy and those who know the answer most are afraid to answer the most important questions

Anyway here there a hero for me who is...T ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)

its just very simple friend, no hendershot, just hubbard ok. ;)

just try it in simplicity ok not complexity ok. a matter of avramenko.

bye
God Bless.

oteits noicaro. ;D
:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 10, 2017, 06:47:23 PM

To my friend Magluvin

PEACE BE WITH YOU BUDDY :D
MAY YOU REST IN PEACE, JOKE :D

GOD BLESS

BYE.
ETIOTIT ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 10, 2017, 07:41:04 PM

QuoteI am actually one of your fan why you want quarelling. :-\ :D

i actually learned a lot from you. thank you and God bless. :)
bye sir.

Maybe Erfinder want to enlighten us About that; source of energy is the self-induction, If not is Fine, I learned from him, Too :)

Quoteits just very simple friend, no hendershot, just hubbard ok. ;)

just try it in simplicity ok not complexity ok. a matter of avramenko.

bye
God Bless.

oteits noicaro. ;D
:)

Ok, sound more clear, let me try again. :)
Thank you!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 10, 2017, 11:53:15 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g3DwpshYxU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g3DwpshYxU)

a chop chop discharge is much efficient! ok. 8)
in this case speed chop chop is power!. :D

bye :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 11, 2017, 06:24:24 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 11, 2017, 03:47:30 AM

I have no interest in a debate. I am here to discover what it is that you have learned from me, and the documents we both have studied. I have a series of questions for you. Your answers could potentially inspire your following. I sincerely hope you answer the questions openly and honestly. Keep in mind, they, your following, will judge you by your work. If at any time your answers don't match up with mine, I will take this as an indication that we are not on the same page and you are not ready and or willing to proceed.

There are many theories concerning the attached figure. When studied long enough, studied in the right frame of mind, the mind fixed on a very specific goal, the goal set by the language of the author of the document being studied, an embedded message emerges and rises above all noise (theories).

First question.

What is the message being conveyed by this diagram.

Its an honor for me to have you here sir. :)
well sir, it can produce electric currents, simple and compact, limitless in its design, lots of variation we can make and its a hint for free energy. etc. :)

i've learned actually some points from your posts, and that help me and encourage me proceed digging this world of free energy.

sorry sir i cannot actually talk too much in english cause my nose is bleeding. :D
but i actually want to say a lot. :)

i'm not actually sure if we are of the same page cause i'm thinking a lot of different things actually.
i'm combining a lot of different research from simple to complex experiment. sometimes i don't know what i'm doing, and thats funny hahaha. :D
but i just found out how simple free energy is. and thats a matter of make and break and accumulate. 8)
We can actually accumulate signals and turn them into usable power. 8)
i'm not forcing anyone to believe me but that is the truth, and they cannot hide it anymore. ;D

otits :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 11, 2017, 07:36:25 AM

Response : there is extra energy in self-induction, completely unused in normal motor operations, here used to create copious amount of ozone.

The same motor energy is used to generate air thrust and ozone.

That's because... magnetic field is ENERGY itself, in conservative stage. BUT ! We can use it!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: smoky on January 11, 2017, 10:43:06 AM

Hello Erfinder
May I have a go at answering?
When the dielectric (air) between the plates becomes ionised it exhibits a resistance which is likely a negative one?
Shown in diagram by the little vertical arrows between the HV plates at right angles to the H field.

Possibly enough energy is returned via the -ve R value and the Tesla style step down transformer to keep the whole thing going?

To avoid a continuous arc breakdown they push fresh air through refreshing the dielectric, which in turn becomes ionised again.

Yes no maybe?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 11, 2017, 05:53:41 PM

its just very simple friend, no hendershot, just hubbard ok. [/size]
👍👍👍[/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: mikemongo on January 11, 2017, 07:26:15 PM

The message being conveyed is that reactive power can be made to do something useful. In this case it is creating high voltage for an ozone generator. Charge the capacitor during open time of the commutator, discharge the cap through the inductor during the shorted time of the commutator. Phase difference between charge time and discharge time makes this REACTIVE POWER.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 11, 2017, 08:50:56 PM

I have a question; In ozone patent the large capacitor represented by the letter L is the bifilar-coil 512,340 tesla patent?
Which also forms part of the coil with letter M?? ???

Dave45

Any suggestion about the connection who make the magic with the secondary to primary coil-bifi ?

QuoteNow Dave45, I know that you know how is the connection of the primary-bifilar with the secondary, who is who actually does the magic. Please if you are so kind to put the diagram here. We will thank you very much!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 12, 2017, 06:26:44 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 11, 2017, 08:30:01 AM

Thanks for your honest answer.....forgive my intrusion.

its okay sir, no damage happen. ;)

The diagram is actually first : charging the capacitor because it is in parallel by the battery. but as it charge the caps, movement of electron will be done as it charge, and magnetic field is build up and energize the motor and turns the fan and as it turns, the shorting action happen, and making a short discharge between the battery and the capacitor. BUT! in that short short, things happen: make low self induction and high self induction in the coil of the motor but higher volts dictates and charge the caps to a high potential, and also make very high voltage at the secondary and obviously make an ozone. its like using one bullet in so many birds. ;)

in time of shorting and break, potential will develop in small and high coil of the transformer and induce current in battery and caps and since caps discharge first then caps will be filled first. :D

and that is what i honestly understand in that circuit sir. please correct me if i'm wrong ok.

Thank you very much sir
God Bless.

bye. :)

otits :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 12, 2017, 06:59:42 AM

I see an lc circuit generating high voltage into the secondary, it does just what the patent says it does generates ozone.
I don't see how repacing the cap with a bifilar coil will pull any energy from the setup, its basically a bipolar tesla coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 12, 2017, 09:22:27 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 12, 2017, 06:26:44 AM

its okay sir, no damage happen. ;)

The diagram is actually first : charging the capacitor because it is in parallel by the battery. but as it charge the caps, movement of electron will be done as it charge, and magnetic field is build up and energize the motor and turns the fan and as it turns, the shorting action happen, and making a short discharge between the battery and the capacitor. BUT! in that short short, things happen: make low self induction and high self induction in the coil of the motor but higher volts dictates and charge the caps to a high potential, and also make very high voltage at the secondary and obviously make an ozone. its like using one bullet in so many birds. ;)

in time of shorting and break, potential will develop in small and high coil of the transformer and induce current in battery and caps and since caps discharge first then caps will be filled first. :D

and that is what i honestly understand in that circuit sir. please correct me if i'm wrong ok.

Thank you very much sir
God Bless.

bye. :)

otits :)

:-) I still believe it is because magnetic field is energy source

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 12, 2017, 07:28:17 PM

Quote from: forest on January 12, 2017, 09:22:27 AM

:-) I still believe it is because magnetic field is energy source

Well, actually you are correct, but we also give an account to how it was arrange. cause this arrangement is really one of a kind and very brilliant.
;)

Its like tesla is making an accident incident with the not really the purpose of the work. ;D

This circuit of tesla really the one that makes an addiction to me from tesla's works

Imagine, we can do a lo lot of modules or work just by charging the cap. :o
SIMPLY AMAZING huh!!! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 12, 2017, 07:35:18 PM

To Erfinder:

Sir i have a wild thinking or let say an improvement and i want you to give some comment just if you want. :D

Let say, i combine the hairpin technology of Tesla by putting two caps in both terminal of the battery then put the ozone circuit. 8)
My purpose is to separate the ozone circuit from the main source. 8)

WHAT DO YOU THINK SIR? :D

Well, its okay for me if honest or not honest comment. ;D
just want to see your reaction. ;D

otits :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 12, 2017, 08:31:40 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 12, 2017, 07:35:18 PM
To Erfinder:

Sir i have a wild thinking or let say an improvement and i want you to give some comment just if you want. :D

Let say, i combine the hairpin technology of Tesla by putting two caps in both terminal of the battery then put the ozone circuit. 8)
My purpose is to separate the ozone circuit from the main source. 8)

WHAT DO YOU THINK SIR? :D

Well, its okay for me if honest or not honest comment. ;D
just want to see your reaction. ;D

otits :)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D More :-* :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 12, 2017, 09:08:35 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on January 12, 2017, 08:31:40 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D More :-* :D

Actually i have lots more of variation but............................... :-X ;D ;D ;D

Your having fan huh ;D

Enjoy friend. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 13, 2017, 01:08:58 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 12, 2017, 09:08:35 PM

Actually i have lots more of variation but............................... :-X ;D ;D ;D

Your having fan huh ;D

Enjoy friend. :D

That why this is the best thread than ever, at least for me :o :o, because the captain can not tell a lie, because his father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD, JESUS. How I know that? because I'm son too, I'm can not say a lie too ;D ;D ;D ;D.

OK, Another reason is because you have many machines of the free Energy too and I just want any of them, only 3kva for now, for the winter. :o :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D

TITO 1:15 ::) ::) ::)
To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted. New International Version (NIV)

God love you too who have read this. :)

Title: Understanding AC
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2017, 08:27:10 AM

Diodes tell the tell, more on that later for now check out the exciter coil in this vid, pay close attention to the pos and neg changes at the ends of the coil.
https://youtu.be/0yK3Opq_i0M (https://youtu.be/0yK3Opq_i0M)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2017, 09:02:42 AM

The vid shows the coil is putting out pos and neg energy at both ends of the coil.
We can use diodes to channel the energy into DC, a full wave bridge rectifier.
The circuit in the vid would be more efficient by using the bridge rectifier.

This circuit channels the energy into DC using diodes, one diode allows pos to pass and the other allows neg to pass on both ends of the coil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2017, 09:22:00 AM

Lets say we wanted to build an air purifier an we want to use ac power to do it.
If we dont use diodes we will get both pos and neg pulses into our electrodes and we will cancel the charge on the electrodes.
But by using a full wave bridge we get total separation.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 14, 2017, 02:28:16 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 14, 2017, 09:22:00 AM
Lets say we wanted to build an air purifier an we want to use ac power to do it.
If we dont use diodes we will get both pos and neg pulses into our electrodes and we will cancel the charge on the electrodes.
But by using a full wave bridge we get total separation.

Dave45
I've been wondering what would happen if I use a transformer with 4 coil and I pick one of the secondary to feed the bifiar connection of the primary through a diode.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tysb3 on January 14, 2017, 03:28:12 PM

@ Dave45

for OU you need "reactor" which vaporize static electricity and condenser to condense static electricity.
electric current in the wire is the "water". EMF around the wire is vapor of "water"

sorry, in Russian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBpuiJHVqWg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBpuiJHVqWg)

for static electricity you don't need rectifier.
static electricity is always "+" against the ground

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 14, 2017, 04:56:32 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on January 14, 2017, 02:28:16 PM
Dave45
I've been wondering what would happen if I use a transformer with 4 coil and I pick one of the secondary to feed the bifiar connection of the primary through a diode.

Not sure, just have to test.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: shylo on January 14, 2017, 06:05:15 PM

Hi Dave,
I use half bridges on my coil leads, that feed caps , You get bigger swings between potentials.
I use the difference between banks to do the work, It only takes a little from each bank that way, instead of draining the entire bank at once.
artv

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on January 15, 2017, 12:55:11 AM

voltage and current amplification is a by product of collapsing magnetic field of an energized capacitor extremely fast pulsed discharge ..... from a ____ and ____ circuit

the Questions are :
a) How would you demonstrate the slight increase in collapsing magnetic field?
b) How can we make it many ?
c) How can we make it strong ?
d) from a ____ and ____ circuit ?????

hi... wattsup, dellboy, sparks, allcanadian, bob smith, erfinder, slayer 007, IST and titonium ....
myselfy so funny .. bunny ... i just love to quote TITONIUM post .... :) please enlightening .... more

is this ... from antenna or keshe generator TO tesla ozone patent with .... SECONDARY ... and .... TAIL ?
oh my tail ... what's is that ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 16, 2017, 05:13:38 PM

I wonder, if the coils on the double buck were wound on the same torroid, as bifilar coils.
Interesting
TPU?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 17, 2017, 06:56:40 AM

So if this was hooked up to a mot one side would step up and the other would step down.
Or one side steps up voltage an the other side steps up amperage.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 17, 2017, 07:10:33 AM

I dont advise playing around with a mot they will kill your ass. If you dont know what you are doing leave this alone.
These are just my musings i don't know if it will work, i take no responsibility for your actions.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 17, 2017, 07:28:15 AM

Understanding ac is the key, everything is reactive power, its the phase relationship.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 17, 2017, 07:34:03 AM

This is ac, the exciter coil is the power station sending power to your house.
https://youtu.be/0yK3Opq_i0M

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 17, 2017, 05:28:20 PM

A single buck converter loses voltage in the off time, by adding another flywheel to the system the votage should increase.
The advantage the buck has over the boost converter is the flywheel effect,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 17, 2017, 05:39:57 PM

If you use a 12v battery and each phase places say 5v across the load could we exceed the battery voltage by adding phases.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 17, 2017, 06:30:48 PM

I dont have the skills it would take to run the gates on a three phase buckboost.
There are a few here that do.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 18, 2017, 02:21:40 AM

Ive made these circuits on Circuit sim. I will have to find that code or just remake it if anyone is interested. What ever is used from the source ends up being what we get out minus losses. A single coil and transistor can do just about the same at 4 times the freq and the right parts, and probably at the same or better eff. The thoughts that I had on it when I was drawing the circuit was that there would be no off time to the output if the timing were right. But it still is not more than in for any reason.

Unless there is some 'special' way to make the circuit put out more, then this isnt it. Sorry.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 18, 2017, 07:04:55 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: smoky on January 18, 2017, 07:21:17 AM

Hi Erfinder,
What Lester Hendershot did with one of his early designs was to[/size]

Take a thin metal plate and pivot it between 2 equal strength Nth Sth permanent magnetic poles.
He wound the thin plate with fine wire like Litz wire and connected it to an aerial.

Weak signals coming down the aerial wire mixed (heterodyned in some manner) to produce difference frequencies in the audio range.
These audio signals were low enough in frequency to pass through the Litz wire coil.
Causing the plate to become an electromagnet attracting it alternately toward one magnet face and then the other.

The original minute change of aerial signal flux on the plate was greatly amplified by the electromagnetic plate physically approaching either magnet's pole face.

I guess it could be termed a "tipping threshold or avalanche" effect much like onset of negative resistance in a spark gap and other phenomena with tipping points.

The extra energy was supplied by nature in each magnets flux density as it didn't need to be supplied by external current or voltage sources.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 18, 2017, 07:48:01 AM

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 18, 2017, 10:20:38 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 18, 2017, 12:43:49 PM

It was all just theoretical anyway :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on January 18, 2017, 04:04:37 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 18, 2017, 06:00:05 AM
Please forgive my bluntness, all I see going on here are ideas being thrown around regarding how to amplify one's idea of power....not a single idea has been presented which leads one to the "amplification of energy".

Can someone please present something general regarding amplifying energy, what it means and the most straight forward method for accomplishing it. Please keep your schematics to yourself, I have no interest in them nor use for them.
Regards

Build a transformer core in the form of a trumpet. Wind the primary around the mouthpiece. Wind the secondary around the horn. Now pulse. The core "should" amplify that pulse by the time it arrives at the secondary.

But the problem is this, each core lamination has to start thin and end thicker.

See the three drawings I posted on this forum long ago and have them here;

http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups'%20stuff/triangular%20laminated%20core/

Is that straight forward enough?

Premise: If a linear laminate core like we use today can produce a 1:1 isolated coupling with loss, ok, but still 1:1 ratio, then it should be possible to play with that ratio not only by changing the wind numbers but also by modifying the laminate to go from thin to thick. I know, this is ahead of its time.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: smoky on January 18, 2017, 04:08:32 PM

Some of Akula's pulsed work is very clever & interesting,

In this version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYjREkw1v-A&t=293s

He uses short pulses from a MOSFET to kick two resonant tank circuits into oscillation.
He knows the propagation delay through the ferrite.

So that by the time the pulse reaches the tank circuits and reflects back again to the MOSFET's output coil, the MOSFET is already switched OFF.
Giving maximum pulse width of twice the propagation delay.

Also thinking the Lenz flux has Bi Toroid feature whereby not all the Lenz flux passes back through originating LC tank source.[/size]

I measured a couple of ferrite power transformer E cores here, giving approx 24 nano secs delay for 100 mm distance.
Not very adept at cutting the centre leg off the E though.

The whole idea of Akula's here is very instructive & interesting ....
because by pulsing at twice the resonant frequency of the tank circuit, a parametric style of amplification can be had.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on January 18, 2017, 04:54:47 PM

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 18, 2017, 10:02:04 PM

Dear Wattup

I'm Happy see you again around here, because I would like if you want please, explain what is it missed in this Fig. (Tesla Project thread) Because I have read until end and I tried different kind of connection but just the battery doesn't discharge. What is it missed please Sr.

http://overunity.com/3972/the-tesla-project/330/#.WIAr9Yfmr5o

QuoteWhy the inductor in series with the diode?? In my experience, discharging an inductor into an inductor doesnt work well. The collapsing inductor will collapse so fast that the other inductor will impede the current rush. This is if im seeing the circuit right...

Mags

QuoteDear Mags maybe we are missed something because Sr. Wattsup look Very happy with this circuit

http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg497516/#msg497516

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: web000x on January 18, 2017, 10:51:35 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 18, 2017, 04:54:03 PM

I don't know what akula is doing, and really don't care, not sure anyone should, but to each his own right... Can't shake that two tank thing.... when I think of two tanks.....oscillating.... I get this visual of a ping pong match, the players are masters, and are using two ping pong balls. The balls take on the shape of wave packets...you know....beat packets.... the impedance is free to slide without limit around the board, free to intercept and redirect either or both of the wave packets.....

Is this what you are doing with your pulsed DC machines? For your suggested 3 coil scenario, are your reactors in place to be the beat generators?

Dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: web000x on January 19, 2017, 07:24:56 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 19, 2017, 02:56:17 AM

I'd like to think that this is what is taking place in one of my machines. However, as I am no authority on the subject, nor do I care for "proper measurement", I cannot say that it is what's taking place with any certainty.

Three coil scenario... Do you comprehend what was being suggested?

Reactors have nothing to do with the three coil scenario.

Beat frequency generation is a subject of its own, I tried offering this to the community before but was ignored when the authorities stepped in and took over the discussion.

Regards

You made a brief video a while ago showing two transformers and a motor/generator coil in the same circuit (I assume) where you inverted Lenz. Can you elaborate on how this has nothing to do with the three coil scenario that you suggested? I was under the impression that there were similarities...

I am having an internal struggle of whether I should bias my reactors with diodes or capacitors to 'bias it from the pulse'. Capacitors help create great beats in the circuit ..

Dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on January 19, 2017, 08:43:35 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on January 18, 2017, 10:02:04 PM
Dear Wattup
I'm Happy see you again around here, because I would like if you want please, explain what is it missed in this Fig. (Tesla Project thread) Because I have read until end and I tried different kind of connection but just the battery doesn't discharge. What is it missed please Sr.
http://overunity.com/3972/the-tesla-project/330/#.WIAr9Yfmr5o
http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg497516/#msg497516

@leonelogb

The diagram you show was to test out the basic set-up of the Tesla Ozone Patent going back several years.
Let me look at it closer again since it's been a while.

I had put some pictures here;
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups'%20stuff/erfinder%20challenge/

Just be careful with where you put your hands/fingers because I did get several good shocks
during theses tests.

But the main point is if I were to redo these today, I would not do it the same way. Of course
it's been a few years since then and we have learned more and more but I still feel the TOP to
be the best way to drive a working primary but with a few changes.

What is missing is the pulsing medium does not last if it is not done EXACTLY like Tesla's patent
because in his patent, the make/break of the circuit being the shorting of the source battery
across the commutator of the high induction fan motor will work better then regular isolated
make/breaks because the motor inductor will act like a "shock absorber" to attenuate the
stress of each contact. The ideal contactor would be a rotary contact that is in a vacuum but I
have never found anything like that. Anyone that can make such a device would surely find a
good demand in the R&D sector.

@all

OK, let's just look at one other thing on the Tesla Patent device or any other battery driven OU
device, the battery. If you use a battery in your OU device and the device is designed to keep
the system running while the battery is being recharged continuously by the system itself, then
you guys need to remember and never forget one point. If you try and recharge a battery, let's
say a 12vdc 10 amp rated battery, that battery will never take more then 20% of the amp rating
as recharge. Any more and it is wasted. So your device should not consume more then 20%
of the rated amperage of the battery. In this case, you should not consume more then 2 amps
with a 10 amp battery if you want to put that energy back in the battery. So if you need 4 amps
to run your device with such a battery, it will never work with only one battery. You will need
two batteries in parallel so that 4 amps can return to the battery pack and not be wasted. This
should be your first rule to follow. You build a device, you supply it with power and see how
much power you need to be to run the device, you measure the amperage drawn from the
battery source and make sure it is not more then 20% of the battery amp rating. If you are
using more then that, you need to add as many more batteries in parallel as required for the
device amp consumption to be not more then 20% of the total amps of the battery pack.

This can be controlled via a variable resistor placed after the battery and adjusted by looking
at an inline amp meter to adjust the amps consumption to not more then 20%.
That is where to START.

wattsup

Added: I forced the text lines to be shorter given that large posted image above.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Low-Q on January 19, 2017, 09:41:01 AM

@ Erfinder. I have a few, maybe dumb questions:
How is it possible to design a device that appearently violate physics?
What physical theory is used to achieve such design?
How come you didn't stop for a while, thinking, "how do I violate physics using common physics"?

Br. Vidar

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 19, 2017, 09:49:24 AM

Thank you very much Sir, for answering me and thank you for the advice about of safety because I have already get me shock even with my rubber glove :), Now I'll to try again in order to get the same effect than you, I hope ::). Thank W. 8)

Quote from: wattsup on January 19, 2017, 08:43:35 AM
@leonelogb

The diagram you show was to test out the basic set-up of the Tesla Ozone Patent going back several years. Let me look at it closer again since it's been a while.

I had put some pictures here;
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups'%20stuff/erfinder%20challenge/

Just be careful with where you put your hands/fingers because I did get several good shocks during theses tests.

But the main point is if I were to redo these today, I would not do it the same way. Of course it's been a few years since then and we have learned more and more but I still feel the TOP to be the best way to drive a working primary but with a few changes.

What is missing is the pulsing medium does not last if it is not done EXACTLY like Tesla's patent because in his patent, the make/break of the circuit being the shorting of the source battery across the commutator of the high induction fan motor will work better then regular isolated make/breaks because the motor inductor will act like a "shock absorber" to attenuate the stress of each contact. The ideal contactor would be a rotary contact that is in a vacuum but I have never found anything like that. Anyone that can make such a device would surely find a good demand in the R&D sector.

@all

OK, let's just look at one other thing on the Tesla Patent device or any other battery driven OU device, the battery. If you use a battery in your OU device and the device is designed to keep the system running while the battery is being recharged continuously by the system itself, then you guys need to remember and never forget one point. If you try and recharge a battery, let's say a 12vdc 10 amp rated battery, that battery will never take more then 20% of the amp rating as recharge. Any more and it is wasted. So your device should not consume more then 20% of the rated amperage of the battery. In this case, you should not consume more then 2 amps with a 10 amp battery if you want to put that energy back in the battery. So if you need 4 amps to run your device with such a battery, it will never work with only one battery. You will need two batteries in parallel so that 4 amps can return to the battery pack and not be wasted. This should be your first rule to follow. You build a device, you supply it with power and see how much power you need to be to run the device, you measure the amperage drawn from the battery source and make sure it is not more then 20% of the battery amp rating. If you are using more then that, you need to add as many more batteries in parallel as required for the device amp consumption to be not more then 20% of the total amps of the battery pack.

This can be controlled via a variable resistor placed after the battery and adjusted by looking at an inline amp meter to adjust the amps consumption to not more then 20%. That is where to START.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: web000x on January 19, 2017, 10:09:26 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 19, 2017, 07:42:07 AM

I made a video that was ignored, and when it wasn't ignored it was ridiculed, so yeah....I took it down. Make no assumptions about what I have shared, I am the source, no one else has demonstrated what I have, in the manner that I have. The transformers, are part of the "reactor" the other part being the MoGen itself. The purpose of this combination is to "invert" the negative effect that CEMF has on consumption. That is what it was designed to do, that is what it does, that is what was demonstrated. That system has nothing to do with the three coil scenario. Similarities can be drawn between the two. Do that if you want, but don't ask me to support your interpretation of my presentations. I am telling you how to observe what I presented, you can choose to accept what I say about "MY" work, or assume to know and get nowhere.

Now I will give you the floor once again leaving you with the following simple question.

Do you comprehend the three coil scenario?

Regards

Not all of us ignored nor ridiculed your videos. It sucks that you took them down.

You had spoken of several different concepts and sometimes it is difficult to distinguish which concept you were referring to when the statements were made..

Is the three coil scenario a situation where you have two coils (and caps?) oscillating at different frequencies and the third coil from where you take your beat generated output?

Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 19, 2017, 10:19:53 AM

Commutators such as the one you describe are only created as
Custom order parts.
There is literally no demand for such a component, other than
experimental research.

Mostly just NASA, and us.
I possess plans for such a commutator, obtained years ago,
If you want to know how to make one I can help you.

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Your comments on the Batteries, I do not fully understand
What you are saying.
I get the premise, true batteries will only charge at their max rate
And anything else you try to stick in will just circle past and be lost.

But "current rating" is a general average of total power stored in the battery.
For example your battery may say 2200mAh
This means that it can provide 2200mA for 1 hr.
This does not mean that the battery can't put out 22000 mA for 6 mins.
The current output is entirely dependent upon the load resistance.
Not the battery. (Except in a specific case)
Some batteries will overheat if you draw too much current.
And by this they are limited to some value,
this is not a % of the max charge rate, the two things are not related.
One is an electrochemical constraint, the other is a materials property factor
of the electrodes and casing.
Some batteries recharge faster than they discharge. But they are designed that way.

There is, (generally not given to you by the manufacturer except in the auto industry)
a maximum current that the battery will provide, at dead short.
This is what most people read from their current meter, when they test a battery.
The value goes down as the battery discharges.
It becomes truly observable when external circuit resistance is lower than internal
battery resistance.

In the auto industry this value ( at max charge) is offered up as a sales gimmick.
People are more likely to spend money on a battery that says "100 cold cranking Amps"
Compared to one that only says 70.
What they don't realize in the starter motor on their car only draws 15-30 Amps at max torque.
That number doesn't mean anything. It's like a commercial.

Now to US - as experimenters, these high-current auto batteries hold a specific use value.
If our experiment requires a short duration, high current source. Some of them can hold their
own along side small homopolar generators. (For a limited time)

i think for people to understand your point it may be better stated to test the battery first.
Figure out how much charge current it will accept, at complete discharge, half charge,
and fully charged.

From that a scale can be made, a point of operation planned for, and the load current
Is then engineered to fit the battery.

Let's say you never let the battery drop below 50%
Now you have a range of current from 50% charged,
to when the battery is fully charged.
You design your load with this current range in mind
And (achieve 'ou' with the rest of your thing?) then you
won't be using more than you produce.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on January 19, 2017, 08:11:24 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 19, 2017, 07:33:51 PM
Just for you sweetheart.
Wire core doesnt have to be a thick core, the core stays saturated.

hi just had a quick peek at your diagram, do you mean nano Henry or micro Henry as a nh will be almost a trough wire 8) :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 19, 2017, 09:03:25 PM

Quote
Reply #7709 on: Today at 01:33:51 AM »

Quote

Just for you sweetheart.
Wire core doesnt have to be a thick core, the core stays saturated.

.

Thank you Dave45 :o :o :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 20, 2017, 05:37:35 AM

The components.are not to spec, i have not built it, just an idea.
The connections on the shorted coil are wrong i believe

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 20, 2017, 06:12:52 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 20, 2017, 06:24:13 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 20, 2017, 06:40:33 AM

You want the magnetic field to slow down thats the reason for the thin core.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 20, 2017, 07:49:13 AM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 20, 2017, 06:40:33 AM
You want the magnetic field to slow down thats the reason for the thin core.

Hmmm.

If anything, if the core slows down the field build or collapse, then the core must be conductive and eddys are the cause of the slow down. If the core slows down the field, then that slow field will induce the windings slow resulting in less voltage and less current because some of the power that the field was built with gets lost in the core. If anything you would want a core that does its thing as fast as possible and not be a cause of losses.

Me thinks ???

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 20, 2017, 08:12:14 AM

Could be Mags
I was thinking the electric field would collapes if the field slowed, but not reversed.
Like i said i have not built it, its just theory.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 20, 2017, 09:03:18 AM

Magnetic amplifier
Jack said this was old tech that SM was not the inventor

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 20, 2017, 09:33:18 AM

I dont want help, ill build it when im ready.
What is your problem,
Never mind i don't want to know nor do i care.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 20, 2017, 10:00:11 AM

Its just an idea

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 20, 2017, 11:04:56 AM

It probably wont work anyway, none of my ideas have yet.
And even if it does if i can figure it out anyone can.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 20, 2017, 05:43:19 PM

Dave45

QuoteIts just an idea

I like that ;D ;D ;D

I wish to have such kind of idea and excellent explanation that I couldn't copy before dele...... :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 21, 2017, 07:10:45 AM

Disruptive Technologies
Iv been thinking we search for free energy but what would really be the repercussions if it were found, the whole monetary system would crash.

If it had been found early in Tesla's day it probably wouldn't have been as disruptive. We are making the transition via solar an wind and it needs to be a slow transition.
I first started this search because i wanted to help the poor people in third world countries pump water to grow crops but i have been playing with solar panels for the last year and they will do the job without batteries, they only pump during the day but the water can be stored in tanks, the tank acts like a battery of sorts.
I wished we lived in a perfect world but we cannot change history, if Tesla had found free energy he should have released it then before the whole world became dependant on oil.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 21, 2017, 09:12:38 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 21, 2017, 09:08:47 AM
Dave45,

How does the patent demonstrate energy amplification? How does the patent demonstrate work amplification? You may want these things using a different mechanism. I want them exactly the way they were developed and presented by Nikola Tesla.

Patent 568177 is just the beginning.....the idiots guide for lack of a better name.

When you comprehend the message, you will better understand Robert Alexander (http://www.google.de/patents/US3913004) was suggesting. Please do refer to replication attempts by those who think they know!

Sent you a pm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 21, 2017, 09:21:24 AM

Im goin to stick to my solar panels, iv been thinking alot about this lately and they will do what i want.
Be careful folks i'll be here but i think im going to keep my opinions to myself.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 21, 2017, 09:57:15 AM

Wow looks like Robert Alexander figured it out, very interesting.
Maybe some of the motogens do work.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on January 21, 2017, 10:13:25 AM

@Dave45

You really need to practice your image resampling skills. The images are too big and the simplicity of the image does not warrant such big images on thread pages because this sends posted text way off the normal screen size. Images should never be more then 640 pixels wide.

@sm0ky2

Great post, thanks.

About the commutator, you see, the best components are not for our hands or eyes or brains. But at least it is good to know since I did indicate it would be a good R&D tool. Would save a bundle on burnt contacts.

Quote
Your comments on the Batteries, I do not fully understand
What you are saying. I get the premise, true batteries will only charge at their max rate
And anything else you try to stick in will just circle past and be lost.

Yes, and the general rule is 20% of the amp rating. So if you have a 10 amp battery, pulling 4 amps from it will only mean eventually the battery will die regardless of your ability to recharge because the battery itself has limits. Now you may look at the battery in amp, amp hours, mAh or however, it does not change the 20% limit of recharge.

On a second point, we have seen devices that do reactive power recharge of the battery when consuming more then that 20% and we miraculously see the voltage rise back to the original level and we are all amazed at this. But what we soon realize is even if the battery is showing a recharge to 12vdc, that actual usable amp hours is no longer available. At 6 cells, each cell gets its 2v and totals to 12v.

So as a load test you take your normal charged 12vdc battery and hook up any load then see how long it takes to fall down to 10.5 volts (never lower). You then take that battery and recharge via your reactive power output and quickly see the voltage rise back to 12vdc. But when you do the same load test, it takes maybe 10% of the original time to fall back down to 10.5vdc. Why do you think that is? That one cause/effect is a total giveaway of how batteries actually charge, discharge. Why in our present acceptance of physics, should a damn electron care if a battery is charged by slow trickle charge or a fast reactive charge? If electrons were REAL, they should not care and the influence and result should then be the same, but they are not. Big giveaway.

First the battery material or choice of atoms as per the Periodical table of elements. Certain materials have atoms with nuclei that possess a load, lock and release function. When you charge the battery it will load (or sway) and lock nuclei of the atomic material. When you connect a load you basically release the locks in cascade as per how thick or how many atoms are involved in the chain of copper atoms (wire) leading to the load. Yes our wire is basically a chain of copper atoms with very reactive nuclei. Reactive in the sense that the nuclei has the ability to pivot as per the potential applied. They pivot and convey that pivot down the line of the wire. Same happens in the battery material except that this material the nuclei can pivot and lock and then be released. The chemical addition helps in the locking.

Let's say each battery cell had plate material that was 10 inches deep by 4 inches wide. When you slow or trickle charge the battery, the atomic nuclei of those plates are being locked successively because the charger is also charging with 12vdc which is the required voltage to cross the 10 inch depth of each plate and the slow charge makes sure each site on the plates are loaded and locked. This is why a slow charged battery lasts.

When you use reactive high voltage as a recharge, you are basically whipping along the 10 inch depth and losing most of the "locking potential" because the voltage or speed of conveyance is just too fast for battery atoms. So you create these whipping marks going down the 10 inch depth of the plates and you quickly see 12vdc because voltage is how deep that conveyance is and amperage is simply how may atoms are involved. Just to say if you wanted to use high voltage reactive recharge you need the same voltage battery. So many many in series like the Newman motor and possibly like the SM TPUs. When you have the right voltage battery matched to the operating voltage you sidestep the need of a step up transformer and eliminate the pitfalls of such usage.

You see, certain topologies work better at higher voltages. Hit an aluminum kite with 12000v and it fill want to fly away. Certain atoms convey, others nudge, enough to levitate like Hutchisson showed. The atoms we live with everyday have been undersold, neglected or ignored or hidden for their true attributes.

Tomorrow, if a scientist came forward and said "Men were always able to have children" (maybe a bad example but anyways), this would provide a new masculine attribute that would change the world. We were always men, like atoms were always atoms, but now with the realization that the atom has these special attributes that we never considered at a nucleic/mechanical/physical level, with this new perspective, it totally changes, eliminates, renders obsolete so many of our present constructs that have no relation to the actual working or not working of our toys. Our toys work yes, but they work regardless if we are correct about how they work or not.

Sorry for rambling on like this.

Look suffice to say that the battery choice should be the most defining factor of how you design your OU experiments when that experiment involves recharging that source battery back to its ORIGINAL power level. An experiment calls for 120 volts at 1 amp. Your battery is a 12vdc 10 amp. You pulse that 12vdc into a step up transformer to produce your required 120volts at 1 amp. We know the 12vdc battery will draw at least 10 amps. For the battery to recharge with any chance of success, it would have to be a 12vdc 50 amps rated battery. Anything less and you will always lose. But the simpler method is to put ten 12vdc batteries in series to make your 120vdc so you just cancelled the step-up transformer as well as the inherent losses of such usage that your OU device now has as an additional charge to overcome. Plus if you eliminate the stepup transformer because the battery is matched to the real operating voltage, you also cancel the need for stepping down the output voltage to then recharge that one battery. Then the trick remains that the OU device uses the proper voltage, provides the same proper recharge and this permit you to then only concentrate on working on ways to augment the output amperage that will then provide the OU in the system without modifying or adding anything for the output voltage to recharge the batteries. I think SM made his TPUs this way. Lot's of batteries in series but his circuitry then permits the batteries to last and last far longer then a regular battery could.

I am not saying this to regulate how guys do OU experiments. I'm only saying this so guys can look at their battery source as being more then a simple source but a defining factor in how the circuit will be run. What would you prefer? Spending all your time on fixing the step up and step down changes in your circuit that almost always want to blow up at certain frequencies, or do you prefer spending the majority of your time working on the actual "energy amplification" stage?

@Erfinder

The cores we use ARE linear. Same thickness throughout and this is why we work on a 1:1 or any other ratio by the turns of wire used. Without knowing it, we have been confirming since the first core, that the lamination could play a pivotal part in coupling ratios. Imagine all the copper wire that could be saved with triangular core laminations. I cannot make such a lamination but if anyone had a press, they could probably press the lamination with a slight incline that would make one end thicker then the other. No one has ever done this yet so for me it is still a good out of the box idea but making into reality is not so easy. Maybe one day when I accumulate enough money I will look into it but right now, it's just a point of "logical" thought.

As for the question of physics and the conservation of energy, that concept should never have been brought forward without a main caveat stating "Based on what we know today". What I have been doing is basically saying "OK, so where and why do we know what we know today and where can we look to know other things in the future". This is where I started to grow out of the Standard EE base because after millions of OU checkmates from around the World, one eventually has to universally realize that maybe the concepts are faulty to begin with, and from there, the World started to open up in all directions. Our tools are second rate and this is why our concepts are second rate as well. If we called the electron "King Kong" and the field "Peter Pan", they would fall better into the level of reality of our concepts. We say "electron" and "field" and it sounds so official, so real, when in fact they are merely characters in a long drawn out fairy tale. Tesla also saw these as fairy tales and stuck with his cause/effect way of talking about his devices. He never espoused the words electron or field. He would be true to the effect and say "influence" because in reality that's all we could see is an influence being a cause, causing the effect. We were all just bamboozled by eager physicists to get their names into the history books more then the level of reality they brought to science. It is for us to decide when it is time to break out of the mold that our minds were set in from birth.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 21, 2017, 11:10:14 AM

Maybe we.should be looking at different materials for our wire, what i mean is how would a gold electron differ as compared to a copper electron.
The widely accepted notion is that a magnet pulls the electron along in the wire so maybe material is the key, maybe even lead wire.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on January 21, 2017, 02:47:12 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 21, 2017, 02:08:42 PM
This is a slight tangent, it relates to the subject, hopefully we will get to it, eventually. It's familiar territory to some.

Acceleration under short........yeah yeah....been there done that....NO YOU HAVEN'T!

If you are up to it, invest a little time on your bench while taking a break from looking at that patent and thinking about how it teaches "energy amplification", grab your favorite pulse motor, go through your box of coils and select the one (that's right, one coil) with absolute lowest resistance and inductance. Mount the coil next to the rotor of your pulse motor, allow the rotor to get to its maximum no load speed and no load consumption, jot down the frequency. That's it...if you can, make a video, we can make a little contest out of this, the lowest resistance, inductance and frequency wins. Consumption either drops or remains the same, it cannot increase.

Regards

Dear Erfinder.

Are we allowed to use a pickup coil to time our drive transistor ?

Kind regards, Graham.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 22, 2017, 10:48:55 AM

Been looking at some small dc to dc converters for a job Im working on. This lil transformer has a 1.5 turn winding that I found very cool. Anyway

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 22, 2017, 11:04:29 AM

Emm, maybe its just an inductor. The rectangular conductor is neato. ;D

The smd transistors these days are so low in on resistance, very high currents and no heatsink. Im working with some IRLB3034 mosfets. 1.4mohm on resistance.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 22, 2017, 01:22:11 PM

Been thinking about the Don Smith device.where the primary is inserted inside the two secondarys, the premise of this device is to catch the electric field of the primary.
For one thing the secondarys could be gold plated using electrolysis and also i wonder if the primary was encased in glass would there be any bemf absorbed by the primary.
Im not sure the system should be such high voltage, i played with it a bit back in the day and it was very unstable. One thing i did was covered the primary in screen wire and got some crackling noises but like i said the extreme high voltage makes the system unstable.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on January 22, 2017, 02:27:01 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 22, 2017, 01:22:11 PM
Been thinking about the Don Smith device.where the primary is inserted inside the two secondarys, the premise of this device is to catch the electric field of the primary.
For one thing the secondarys could be gold plated using electrolysis and also i wonder if the primary was encased in glass would there be any bemf absorbed by the primary.
Im not sure the system should be such high voltage, i played with it a bit back in the day and it was very unstable. One thing i did was covered the primary in screen wire and got some crackling noises but like i said the extreme high voltage makes the system unstable.

Ya know, I played with the primary circuit on Circuit sim as it has an adjustable spark gap component in the list. I set it for 1kv and adjusted an input to a transformer to sim the nst. I was surprised that the circuit can get the LC of the primary going. The nst is setup with the center tap screw and the outputs send charge to the cap full wave rectified. The freq of the input and the cap n primary coil need to be adjusted to get the lc going well.

But now I see that the primary circuit does work as shown. ;)

Then the big sec coils with cap on one would probably need to be designed to operate at the same freq as the pri LC. Been looking at this on and off. There may be something to it.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on January 22, 2017, 11:28:37 PM

Quote from: ]
Whats going on in this fig?

/quote]

Hello,

a tesla coil? plus ''strange'' capacitor that separate the air?...
All i can see!! Sorry

best regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 23, 2017, 03:49:51 AM

There lies a difference between old world sketches
and modern day schematics

The following is my attempt to translate this drawing
Into something you understaH(nd

Point (A) is the vitreous charge and point (B) is the resinous

The difference in potential creates a current between points
(K) and (G) through motor(H).

This creates a difference in potential through wire (C)
Between capacitors (D) &(F) with respect to cathod E
of the vacuum tube. Which creates an ionic wind in direction
of the fan on motor (H).
The current through motor (H) induces a current
through primary (M)
Which manifests itself as a potential (P) through coil (N)

The ionic wind then creates a potential between points (K)
And (M) through capacitor (L) which can be viewed as a
Double-plate capacitor with higher capacitance than the rest
Of the circuit.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 23, 2017, 06:36:39 AM

QuotePlease dont take offense to this, you just made me ruin my monitor and keyboard, reading your post, the shock of it caused me to choke on my coffee and in desperation for air, coffee was spewed projectile fashion in the direction of 2 year old monitor and keyboard..... The keyboard is fucked....I think the mouse is too.... I typed this on a throwback....

Lmao

I studied the setup didnt get much out of it, but have to admit i didnt read the patent.
I'll read the patent and get back.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 23, 2017, 07:02:06 AM

QuoteThere lies a difference between old world sketches [/size]and modern day schematics

I studied old world sketches for a long time, that stuff should be left alone it will not lead to free energy.
May open doors that shouldn't be opened.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ALVARO_CS on January 23, 2017, 08:08:35 AM

About the ozone pat.

What I see in the drawing is a DC motor with two commutators, therefore pulsing its motor coils (electromagnets) at the input comm, and (simultaneusly) pulsing the primary of a transformer with the CEMF at the output comm. Including the LC tank primary-capacitor.

I am not a professional

cheers

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 23, 2017, 01:20:22 PM

Yea i remember that was an accident, didnt realize it till after.
When i say old world i meant before electricity was ever realized.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on January 23, 2017, 06:18:34 PM

Quote from: Dave45 on January 23, 2017, 01:20:22 PM
Yea i remember that was an accident, didnt realize it till after.
When i say old world i meant before electricity was ever realized.

Honestly Dave do you ever stop to take a breath or think before just opening your mouth?

This thread is fast approaching 8000 posts and it is actually further away from the truth than it ever was. ERFinder is actually 100% on point and yet none of you are listening. LISTENING!!!!

STOP....quiet the mind and actually LISTEN.

Dave you have freely admitted that you have tested NONE of the hundreds of schematics you post. This is sheer stupidity and pointless toilet action. PLEASE go to the bench and construct some simple circuits. LEARN for a FACT how low voltage/high amperage behaves. Observe with clarity how HIGH Voltage low amperage inductors behave. Once you see the TWO sides of electricity and their opposing behaviour, you will understand how to tap a circuit and practically eliminate HEAT and Lenz.

Sadly this forum many of even the genuine experimenters DO NOT follow SCIENTIFIC PROCESS. Scientific process NEVER marries itself to an idea before establishing FACTS. Understand? This VERY Forum actually violates that principle by its title. OVERUNITY DOES NOT EXIST AND NEVER WILL. You people think Telsa had OVERUNITY....he did NOT. Nowhere in his writings and schematics is there even a hint of this.

What Tesla had achieved was the closest thing to 100% efficiency and something very few of you are even close to.......A COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF ELECTRICITY AND HOW TO HARNESS IT NATURALLY.

ERFinder has asked some VERY simple basic questions and none of you have even come close to answering it or showing discernment. Even a two year old by INSTINCT uses scientific methodology in discerning fact. They will see something with the eyes....desire it....scoop it up and place it in the mouth....if its food and a pleasant in taste they will have learned a vital FACT and repeat the process. IF its a lump of dog poo they will also learn and NOT repeat the behaviour!!

Dave you have been talking nonsense for years now about how good the idea of eating dog poo is and yet you have never leaned over to test and see that it isn't actually chocolate but dog poo. Go to the bench....taste the dog poo you crave and then maybe you will realise you should stop desiring something that isn't meant as mental food.

scientific method
noun

A method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 23, 2017, 07:18:23 PM

Lol ok
You dont know me or what iv tested
Yes i have posted some i didnt test it was a.learning process for me.
Im self taught and have found things you will never know.
But i wish you all the best, you keep looking.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: web000x on January 23, 2017, 09:20:17 PM

Quote from: endlessoceans on January 23, 2017, 06:18:34 PM

This thread is fast approaching 8000 posts and it is actually further away from the truth than it ever was. ERFinder is actually 100% on point and yet none of you are listening. LISTENING!!!!

So much yes. Only a fool would not pay this man's work some attention.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 24, 2017, 02:15:40 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 23, 2017, 04:31:06 AM

For fuck sake.....

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US568177.pdf (https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US568177.pdf)

This is a link to the ENTIRE patent! I am not asking you to explain anything to me! I know what's in the patent, I know exactly what it is that I want you to see in the figure. I don't care about making comparisons between what we do today and what was done in the past. I assumed I was speaking with self respecting professionals, I fucked up! It's clear now that I must spell everything out, total bullshit if you ask me. It was implied that you must read the damn patent to get the necessary info you needed for a proper interpretation. I feel as stupid as your interpretation reads, after reading the patent and discovering what those letters really mean.

Please dont take offense to this, you just made me ruin my monitor and keyboard, reading your post, the shock of it caused me to choke on my coffee and in desperation for air, coffee was spewed projectile fashion in the direction of 2 year old monitor and keyboard..... The keyboard is fucked....I think the mouse is too.... I typed this on a throwback....

Regards

Sir please, now i am curious, what other things you see here that we don't see?, :) :o
Honestly, What i see here is that tesla does a lot of activity in just a short while. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 24, 2017, 03:34:44 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 24, 2017, 02:48:28 AM

None of you have demonstrated that you understand what's taking place in this document. Specifically you. You started this thread, the title is excellent, but the content of the thread is a wet shit sandwich, I am here to help fix that.

Tesla reveals a method for amplification of energy. Stupidity has the majority equating energy with power, when that happens, out come the measurement equipment. A 30 minute video is then made. The first 28 minutes consist of an explanation of how the measurement devices are connected, calibrated, blah blah blah... During the last 2 minutes you realize you aren't going to get the 30 minutes you put into this back....you realize that you just got a lesson in proper measurement practices from a fucking measurement novice....

My purpose for the moment is not to tell you what I see, don't you get it? That's part of the problem. Everyone tells you what to see, then that's all you see, then it's off to the races, or the bench, where a half assed replication takes place, half assed because you went into your replication blind, your replication is based on the opinions of many who wouldn't know an ass from an elbow if they weren't given a fucking picture of each and a 38 hour seminar in the form of a debate between an expert on asses, and an expert on elbows! Most are too proud or two chicken shit to admit they have no fucking clue.

Now.....imagine I have studied the patent....imagine I have put thousands of hours into reviewing every aspect, contemplating tirelessly the possibilities, cross referencing.....and this 16 hours a day for almost a decade.....(I have no problem with you calling me stupid for investing that kind of time.... thing is.....all that time gives me something you dont have.....my perspective) How in the fuck do you expect me to respond to your statement? I am looking for your perspective. Read your post.....you didn't offer me any perspective.....you just scratched your butt and smelled your fingers.....

The point....I am serious about this, probably one of the most serious people here, about this subject. Take it serious, the subject....not me.... and I will take you serious.

Regards

First, you just made us to respond to something that you are the only one seeing it. and that's good, cause you made everyone to think. :D

Well, There are different doors and ways where learning comes and we have all our different perspective about that. too much serious sometimes others get bored and that is maybe the reason why this thread is still existing. 8)

in some tesla's words, sometimes he is using words not exactly what the word means. cause many of his works don't talk into one point of view, there's lot of meaning and open hidden things especially in his works in magnifying transmitter etc. :)

anyway thank you sir for your points and that is most appreciated.
i want to talk more but really can't express it clearly sir sorry. :) [size=78%] [/size]

Still, everyone is welcome and open here and everything is accepted. :) :D

mostly now i am serious and that's maybe the reason why this thread is dying. :)

Thank you and God bless.
The Floor is yours for Good info.

Otits :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: penno64 on January 24, 2017, 04:14:24 AM

Line 19: I have made certain improvements in such apparatus itself which are novel and useful In other and more general applications of the same. I have heretofore shown and described', notably in Patents No. 462,418, dated November 3, 1891, and No. 454,622, dated 25 June 23, 1891, an apparatus devised for the purpose of converting and supplying electrical energy

Line 46: I would state the apparatus which I have de: vised for this purpose is capable of other and highly important uses of a similar nature, so but for purposes of the present case I deem it sufficient to describe its operation and effects when used for the purpose of generating ozone.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on January 24, 2017, 05:01:34 AM

At first ,when Tesla wrote about Ozone,this means that not an internal effect is the target but the ambiental air ,here especially the oxygen.
He wrote "transformer" and showed in the scheme an air core.

I think this machine relates to EHD.

wmbr
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 24, 2017, 06:00:56 AM

I think the ozone patent is pretty straightforward it does exactly what it says.
Penno64 posted the important part of the wording.
The motor is ac but the ozone circuit is pulsed dc, the capacitor allows the phase relationship to be changed without the cap the ozone part of the circuit wold stay at 60 hertz.
AC is just pulsed DC on each leg coming from a transformer, everthing is DC.
When you plug into a 110 outlet you are using single phase AC which is pulsed DC.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 24, 2017, 06:48:04 AM

Awhile back Ramero buit a gen that had all norths facing in one direction and when the magnets passed the coils he was getting +-+-+- but if his magnets had been north south then he would have got --++--++--

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 24, 2017, 07:05:32 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 24, 2017, 04:14:45 AM
Contemplate universal application.....
Make connection to other technologies....if wave shapes are the same, but geometry is different, find that which makes the two different and yet the same.....

In this setup on post 7761 your magnets are n s thats why you are getting this waveform.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 24, 2017, 07:17:04 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 24, 2017, 07:09:48 AM

Don't attempt to analyze my machines....build your own and analyze it.

Lol but im right aren't I.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 24, 2017, 07:38:38 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 24, 2017, 07:19:05 AM

Show your machine with alternating magnets generating this wave....

If you turn your magnets all n n n you will get a smooth sine wave.
Or they can be all s s it doesn't matter.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 24, 2017, 01:08:14 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 24, 2017, 12:22:48 PM
FUCK THE WAVE!!!

It's not about the fucking wave dammit! If you knew how you could be generating signals in the shape of positive and negative going unicorns! This is about coils having the right relation to the core and incoming magnet!!!! Wake the fuck up!

Damn dude are you ok lmao
Take a break calm down, good grief dont shit yourself.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 24, 2017, 01:31:46 PM

Your design is inefficient for one thing, the Bedini setup does not take advantage of both poles of the magnet. Next more likely than not your coils are not wound for optimal energy extraction.
Now calm down dont have a stroke over there.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: penno64 on January 24, 2017, 04:15:16 PM

Amplification -

Cap voltage is created from the dc supply PLUS the cemf from the motor coils.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 24, 2017, 06:29:52 PM

PM generators are current generating systems so you have two choices you can hook up a full bridge rectifier and run into a boost converter to get the voltage up, or you can run the output into a stepup transformer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: barbosi on January 24, 2017, 07:30:06 PM

Quote from: penno64 on January 24, 2017, 04:15:16 PM
Amplification -

Cap voltage is created from the dc supply PLUS the cemf from the motor coils.

The Lindeman taught us what cemf (counter electromotive force) is in his "Electric Motor Secrets" DVD.
However, Tesla said (in his words from the patent):

Quote
The circuit, including the motor is of relatively high self-induction, and this property is imparted to it by the coils of the motor, or, when these are not sufficient, by the addition of suitable choking-coils, so that at each break of the motor-circuit a current of high electromotive force will be developed for charging the condenser, which may therefore be small and inexpensive.

It appears to me that Lindeman and Tesla were not referring to the same thing. This is not entirely what erfinder was asking to direct our attention and while I sense what you may want to say penno64, I think your statement is not accurate.

Since stupid noise was generated as a desperate cry on the "I'm still relevant" altar, almost everyone lost the track of what was the question. For those interested, here it is:

Quote from: Erfinder on January 24, 2017, 06:59:58 AM
Some may be wondering.....why in the hell is he asking me to consider the ozone patent, while at the same time he has me looking at this lenzless gen shit... The ozone patent calls for a motor don't it? Is there anything special about the motor used in the ozone patent? Special in either its operation, construction or both? Did the thought ever enter your mind that the motor (actually a motor generator...) (not necessarily the one you have been shown, but the principles) is Tesla's motor generaor....probably not.....you have not been provided with a reason to do so....right....you have to be given the suggestion before the idea can be considered.....right....WTF

You got to be able to step back to see the big picture...if all you see when considering this "his" work is the self evident, you ain't seeing shit.

Regards

The "lenzless gen shit" was presented in the youtube clip as response to previous claims made by a respected researcher about what it was required for acceleration under the load.

As for the ozone patent, a deeper analysis of the functionality is required with regard to the different operating stages of the apparatus. Anything else than detailed explanations are just random hip shots into the dark.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: web000x on January 24, 2017, 09:29:57 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 21, 2017, 02:08:42 PM
This is a slight tangent, it relates to the subject, hopefully we will get to it, eventually. It's familiar territory to some.

Acceleration under short........yeah yeah....been there done that....NO YOU HAVEN'T!

If you are up to it, invest a little time on your bench while taking a break from looking at that patent and thinking about how it teaches "energy amplification", grab your favorite pulse motor, go through your box of coils and select the one (that's right, one coil) with absolute lowest resistance and inductance. Mount the coil next to the rotor of your pulse motor, allow the rotor to get to its maximum no load speed and no load consumption, jot down the frequency. That's it...if you can, make a video, we can make a little contest out of this, the lowest resistance, inductance and frequency wins.

Regards

Looks like you're still in the lead...

No Load Speed = 100Hz

Coil Inductance = 17 mH

Coil Resistance = 1.3 Ohms

Shorted Generator Coil Speed = 110Hz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5DUrAlZkbc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5DUrAlZkbc)

Moving the coils away from the magnets causes the behavior of the rotor to react differently since the incoming magnet doesn't react with the copper wires. Note the extended core material in the video leaving the coil away from the rotor. The shorted coil is producing about 60mA of current.

Interesting effect...

Dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 25, 2017, 06:31:43 AM

I was wrong about your waveform, sorry.
I stand corrected :)
Listening

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on January 25, 2017, 06:58:29 AM

Hi guys!
Just a question to Erfinder, if your gen coil speed up when shorted, how about using a resistive load with high resistance does it still accelerate?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: crazycut06 on January 25, 2017, 07:35:41 AM

Thank's for the reply, im not descriminating your work, just can't speak and express the way you do because of language barrier, i admire what you have done, just curious about aul, what would be the use if we can't apply a load?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Low-Q on January 25, 2017, 08:00:01 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 19, 2017, 11:36:54 AM
Eventually it's going to be pointed out that this discussion I am participating in yet again, will go on for pages, and no one will come out any smarter. So....to stay on topic, can someone please explain what "Energy Amplification" is, and how it whatever it is has been demonstrated in the Tesla patents.

In matter of Joules, you cannot achieve more Joules on the output than the input. I'm not talking about Teslas patens specificly, but if you charge a capacitor with 1 Joule in one second, you can discharge the capacitor at 1000 Watt in 1/1000 second, but it is still 1 Joule of energy. I think that is what "energy amplification" is much about - though you do not actually amplify energy, but just increase the energy density on the expense of shorter time.
The air or whatever that is the medium during a given discharge, might act as "fuel" into the system, that allows increased energy output, but on the other hand, that fuel already carry potential energy that has been waiting for ignition.
I remember when I was yong and ignorant, I though it was possible to connect several AC-transformes to achieve more energy out that in. For example using five 10/1 step up transformers, and end up with 100 000 times energy output. What I did not know was that the current capacity decreased 100 000 times too.
I haven read about Teslas patens, baybe breafly touched the subject once, so this answer might not help a bit :-)

Vidar

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on January 25, 2017, 09:18:03 AM

Quote from: Low-Q on January 25, 2017, 08:00:01 AM
In matter of Joules, you cannot achieve more Joules on the output than the input. I'm not talking about Teslas patens specificly, but if you charge a capacitor with 1 Joule in one second, you can discharge the capacitor at 1000 Watt in 1/1000 second, but it is still 1 Joule of energy. I think that is what "energy amplification" is much about - though you do not actually amplify energy, but just increase the energy density on the expense of shorter time.
The air or whatever that is the medium during a given discharge, might act as "fuel" into the system, that allows increased energy output, but on the other hand, that fuel already carry potential energy that has been waiting for ignition.
I remember when I was yong and ignorant, I though it was possible to connect several AC-transformes to achieve more energy out that in. For example using five 10/1 step up transformers, and end up with 100 000 times energy output. What I did not know was that the current capacity decreased 100 000 times too.
I haven read about Teslas patens, baybe breafly touched the subject once, so this answer might not help a bit :-)

Vidar

http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Patents/DE3024814.pdf (http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Patents/DE3024814.pdf)
from page 9:
pulse operation and it can the multiple of the necessary working current at electricity be produced in particular in this way, without material is used and without thermal circuit or a torque is necessary. if several are arrangedsuch energy producer switched in graduated size e.g. in a series that second receives the full performance first and third the full performance of the second energy producer to etc., then with a multiplicator of 10 in the sixth member of the series already 1000 megW performance are obtained, if one proceeds from 1000 W power input in the first and smallest energy producer at the start of the series.

You has not been alone with your thinking ! ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on January 25, 2017, 11:41:58 AM

Treating Ampére-turns as waves ?
Transforming displacement current in real power !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on January 25, 2017, 03:24:26 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 22, 2017, 11:17:06 AM
Whats going on in this fig?

I am constantly referring to this....and will continue to refer to it, when you finally get it, you'll be like....so that's what the fuss was about....I live for that moment....

I am going to take a stab at analyzing this figure as you are saying it is important to understand it. I have not seen any information as to the power source but have to assume it is DC for the circuit to function properly. Also although not real clear from the figure I am assuming that the commutator H on the right end of the motor connects brushes G and K for part of the rotation of the armature. Let's say that at the time of power being applied to the circuit the brushes G and K are not connected. In that case current would flow from A to K and then into the capacitor. From the other end of the capacitor current would flow through the primary winding M and thus generate a higher voltage on the secondary winding N which would be applied to the plates P.

The current that is flowing through primary winding M would also flow through the motor winding F and through the commutator and armature of the motor and then through the motor winding D and from there back to the other power connection B. This causes the motor armature to rotate.

At some finite amount of time the cap would become charged and the current would stop flowing and the motor would stop except for the commutator on the right end of the motor. As the motor turns the commutator H will connect brush K to brush G and this will create a path for capacitor L to discharge through primary coil M and thus create a high voltage on the secondary N of the opposite polarity of the original voltage which is passed onto plates P.

At the same time as the commutator H has the brushes connected together we now also have a path for the applied power to directly power the motor without going through the cap L or coil M. So commutator H does two things. It allows the motor to be powered directly with power and also allows the cap to be discharged and recharged thus giving us a high voltage AC power applied to the plates P.

Of course the high voltage on the plates produces the ozone which is forced from the plates by the fan on the motor.

Erfinder, I think I understand your methods well enough to know you probably aren't going to tell me what I have missed. That is OK. But would you please tell me if I have missed something important or do I just need to ponder my conclusions more thoroughly?

Respectfully,
Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on January 25, 2017, 04:26:17 PM

Could it be that I need to think more carefully about what happens when commutator H opens the connection between the brushes?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on January 25, 2017, 04:52:28 PM

I believe it is the motor and as you added including the controller. The motor speed is going to directly affect the operation of the whole system. If the motor was turning too slowly then cap L would get charged to the point the motor would stop. If the motor is turning too quickly then cap L wouldn't have time to absorb much charge at all and therefore there would be very little high voltage generated by current going through the primary M. If we can get the motor speed just right then we can probably reach a resonant condition between M and L which would lessen the current draw from the source.

Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on January 25, 2017, 05:27:11 PM

The cap gives us a way to apply an alternating current to the primary coil M.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: web000x on January 25, 2017, 05:33:45 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 25, 2017, 05:01:21 PM

The correct answer is

B. cap

Everyone I have asked got it wrong..... Why do I consider the cap the fulcrum of the system?

Because it is the storage device that contains the primary field? That field being dielectricity. Magnetism seems to be an effect and not so much the cause..

Dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 25, 2017, 05:43:10 PM

I think it is because the cap is coil bifilar.

_{Tesla; My present invention has for its object to avoid the employment of condensers which are expensive, cumbersome and difficult to maintain in perfect condition, and to so construct the coils themselves as to accomplish the same ultimate object}

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on January 25, 2017, 06:09:15 PM

Well, there can be another aspect of the cap: its reactive current does the job i.e. produces the ozone between its plates.
And reactive current in an LC tank circuit can be Q times the input current to the tank, a bonus from the end product point of view.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 26, 2017, 07:27:15 AM

After the insults i shouldn't share anything but im here to help.
This is a polarity probe it will give you some understanding whats happening as your magnets pass a coil.
Wound bifilar on a core. If you don't have a scope this will help.
Evidently ERfinder has something he wants to share and im not here to distract from that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on January 26, 2017, 08:30:24 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 26, 2017, 07:34:21 AM
My Dogma...
The cap is the fulcrum of the system because:
+ It is charged in series with the primary......
+ It is discharged in parallel with the primary......
Fundamentally you are dealing with the same components, however, you must recognize that you are dealing with two distinct circuits, circuits operating at different instances, circuits which owing to their specific relations CANNOT oscillate at the same frequency, circuits which owing to the aforementioned are not operating in phase!

Your eyes have been shut to the true nature of this and just about every other circuit Tesla has preserved. You only see half of a whole. You only see the parallel LC, you dont understand what the parallel LC is. Most assume when you have L and C you must tune. Just because you can doesn't mean it's what you are supposed to do.

@Erfinder

I had prepared two posts but did not post them simply to not ruffle delicate feathers.

But on your last post, there is nothing that can confirm what you just said simply because the Tesla Ozone Patent (TOP) has a great omission that prevents anyone from speculating as such on the capacitor function.

The omission is having failed to outline the SPECIFIC relationship between the motor commutator (E) and the Rotary Switch (H).

1) Are the brushes on E thinner, same size or greater then the width of each commutation?
2) How many commutators are on E?
3) How many contacts on H and what is their contact/contact width relationship?
4) What is the relation between contacts on H and E. Does H open when E is closed?

These are but a few of the many variables in just that one relation. Each one will produce a different result.

Then here is a question about the Capiyself.

The cap receives constant positive DC on one side. The negative DC comes to the motor winding through E then through the working primary to then arrive at the other side of the Cap. So question is, does the positive stop at the cap and wait for the negative to pass the motor coils and the primary to arrive and the other cap end, or, does the positive pass the cap, pass the primary to then land in the center of the motor coils where the negative arrives at the first half of the motor coils.

Then you say there is a discharge of the capacitor but again that will only depend of the relations between H and E. We know the capacitor will charge to the inductance of the motor when E is connected since there is no other choice. But for it to then discharge, E has to open and H has to close. But when E opens the inductor will discharge bleeding off the cap. So in the TOP, Tesla left some things unsaid and it is those unclear, unmentioned point that are probably his secret to work through and arrive at the feed source being replenished and thus making it a perpetual device or OU.

Tesla was a fanatic for precision and his omission of these detail in the TOP are in my view, the crack in the wall that guys need to look through.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on January 26, 2017, 10:53:41 AM

As I posted earlier we have two things going on at the same time when brushes K and G are connected together. We have power now going directly to the motor and we have a circuit completed allowing L to discharge through M. Since L and M make up an LC circuit if G and K stay connected long enough then L and M could oscillate back and forth or ring as a decaying signal.

I think what some people may not realize is you can have more than one signal on a conductor at the same time. The DC power can be going to the motor at the same time there can be an oscillating signal going back and forth from M and L. Many times I have seen the same cable used to deliver DC to a preamp or other device and also that same cable can carry a RF or audio signal back down the cable.

I do not see in this circuit where either one would necessarily affect the other.

Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on January 26, 2017, 12:33:36 PM

Plates P and coil N can also be an LC circuit that could oscillate at some frequency which may or may not be the same as the frequency of L and M. I am not sure how good a dielectric ozone is for plates P to act as a capacitor. Would moving the ozone through the plates increase or decrease the ability of the ozone to act as a dielectric?

Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on January 26, 2017, 03:39:06 PM

I find it funny that no one has seen the primary after the motor coils is an extra coil as Tesla would say. The cap hooked across the extra coil as a freely oscillating circuit... People are too hung up on traditional circuits and ideas to see the plain truth of the situation. Plus the front controller is a cap and coil shortening device. This would allow the extra coil and cap to oscillate freely in the off times of the DC motor section.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on January 26, 2017, 03:50:56 PM

Erfinder,

Sorry I did not see your PM until just a few minutes ago. I think what you are wanting me to see might be explained by figure 4 of the Alexander patent.

Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on January 26, 2017, 07:28:00 PM

"Self-induction coil for condenser method in conjunction with oscillating transformer. Adapted to Thomas clockwork and condenser 1/2 mfd. mica on hand (one of the two small condensers). Capacity given 1/2 mfd., break also given: wheel of clockwork breaking and making contact has 180 teeth, turns about 20 a minute. This gives breaks =60 60 per second."

"As has been stated on a previous occasion in connection with this subject, to enable a considerable rise of pressure to take place in a circuit, the same must be tolerably free from inductive influences of other circuits. It follows from this that, although with a secondary in loose connection with a primary a very high pressure is obtainable, yet the pressure will never be as high as when an "extra coil" not in inductive connection with the primary is employed to raise the pressure, because the secondary always reacts upon the primary thus dampening the vibration, while the "extra coil" does not react in such a manner, the rise of pressure being simply due to the factor pL/R."

This was taken from here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/coloradonotes04.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/coloradonotes04.htm)

July 12th entry.

With reading the patent he states the motor coils are the high self induction coils. Although the components are rearranged slightly it is essentially the same thing.

The primary of the oscillating transformer is the two turn of the ozone patent(also the extra coil) and the capacitor, with the secondary being the high voltage solenoid feeding the air capacitor or Ozone plates which is an open circuit and not shorted but by the induction across the Ozone plates.

In the patent it states:

" apparatus devised for the purpose of converting and supplying electrical energy in a form suited for the production of certain novel electrical phenomena which require currents of higher frequency and potential than can readily or even possibly be developed by generators of the ordinary types or by such mechanical appliances as were theretofore known. This apparatus involved means for utilizing the intermittent or oscillating discharge of the accumulated electrical energy of a condenser or a circuit possessing capacity in what may be designated the "working" circuit or that which contains the translating devices or means for utilizing such currents. In my present improvement I have utilized appliances of this general character under conditions and in combination with certain instrumentalities, hereinafter described, which enable me to produce, without difficulty and at very slight expense, ozone in any desired quantities. I would state the apparatus which I have devised for this purpose is capable of other and highly important uses of a similar nature, so but for purposes of the present case I deem it sufficient to describe its operation and effects when used for the purpose of generating ozone."

Where do you get energy amplification from?

Although he does say that this process can be used for other and highly important uses of a similar nature he doesn't go into it in the patent you referenced.

In my experience this system takes DC and converts it to a high voltage freely oscillating pulse to be applied across the plates which is an air capacitor designed to generate Ozone. Yes there are other uses for this system but nothing is said in the patent to give a clue as to it's operation or the theory behind that operation. Not in the patent. In order to figure out the other uses all one needs to do is look at other experiments he did in that area. The above link should help all to figure out what he meant by other uses.

But for you I will tell you something about these systems.

"Owing to this feature I expect that this method of raising the e.m.f. with an open coil will be recognized later as a material and beautiful advance in the art. No such pressures — even in the remotest degree, can be obtained with resonating circuits otherwise constituted with two terminals forming a closed path. It is also a fact that the highest pressure, at a free terminal, is obtained in that form of such apparatus in which one of the terminals is connected to the ground. But such "extra coils" with one terminal free may also be used with ordinary transformers and by using one such coil on each of the terminals of the transformer, practically any spark length may be reached."

AGAIN: "No such pressures — even in the remotest degree, can be obtained with resonating circuits otherwise constituted with two terminals forming a closed path."

The secondary of the Ozone patent is an open path. The only thing closing it is the induction between the plates of the air capacitor.

The extra coils he talks about is here:

"In order to produce the greatest possible movement of electricity through a region of the earth in accordance with the plan involving use of a single terminal oscillator, as here experimented with, it is desirable to obtain in some way a large capacity on the free terminal. This is connected with difficulty as spheres get to be too large with moderate tensions and when the tensions go into the millions, streamers can not be easily overcome. The streamers involve loss of pressure just as leaks would on a water pipe which is closed at one end. Large capacity is obtainable in a number of ways of which some are:

1) a coil wound for maximum capacity (internal). The turns are so disposed that between the adjacent turns of layers there exists a great difference of potential, as much as the insulation can stand."

On a side note Tesla figured out that the insulation can be enhanced by the use of an oil bath of the extra coil. Careful attention to extracting all the air one can from said coil to reduce insulation destruction on extreme pressures should be followed.

The bifilar coil is that capacity he mentioned as number one on the list. This was explained in the July 16 notes.

The second picture fig.2 is the schematic he shows for moving the maximum currents through the ground, shown below.

And the figure 1 diagram is what Tariel Kapandze based most of his devices on. With the ground wire going through the center of the transformer. Is it possible to tap the extra coils energy? Thats the million dollar question?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dave45 on January 27, 2017, 06:33:30 AM

Seems to be a lull here, has anyone considered the possibility that you are getting a transformer type reaction between the generator coils.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on January 27, 2017, 07:53:21 AM

Dear Dave45.

10/10.....

Good effort.

Kind regards, Graham.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on January 27, 2017, 08:49:10 AM

It's not a theory, it's an explanation given by the author of the patent you are trolling.

The only theory here is yours about energy amplification.

AGAIN I ask, Where do you get energy amplification from that patent and where is your demonstration of your theory of energy amplification and how it relates to that patent, Tito?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 27, 2017, 09:36:53 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 26, 2017, 04:21:37 PM

Can you support this "theory" with a demonstration?

Any of your standard QC##RCB's or the 1619xx
transformers operate in the manner described
A capacitor is placed across the 3rd coil to form
a tank. This increases the duty-cycle of the signal,
and/or in specific cases can change the frequency.

We have other solutions that perform these tasks, but
transformers have been used in this manner since the
very beginning. It is generally taught to us differently,
Or dismissed as a "stabilizing effect", or other obscure terms.

Tesla described this in great detail, but it sits along side
technologies that pull power directly from the stars, so
mainstream science does not know how to handle this information.

We know about it, we use it, we understand how it works, but to
apply this to already known theory raises questions about what we
think we know. These things are not often discussed in detail in
accredited schools, because they are believed to be teaching us
the unbiased truth.
( which is an outright lie in the American Education System)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Terbo on January 27, 2017, 10:10:21 AM

(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foverunity.com%2F6763%2Fenergy-amplification%2Fdlattach%2Fattach%2F162126%2Fimage%2F%2F&hash=1524609ce22768082973e47a486c59d780a9db83)
@jbignes5
What is "Nickel Chips Cubical" in your diagram?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on January 27, 2017, 10:21:11 AM

Quote from: Terbo on January 27, 2017, 10:10:21 AM
(http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/dlattach/attach/162126/image//)
@jbignes5
What is "Nickel Chips Cubical" in your diagram?

The diagram is Tesla's from his Colorado notes.

Tesla was researching what effect this form of energy has on matter. It reduces the resistance down to 50 ohms or there about. He was looking for a very sensitive receiver that would oscillate the resistance of the receiver. Like I said there are a few things that need to be changed to get the patent he referenced. In order to get the patent just take the secondary of that transformer and connect it to an air capacitor without connecting to the rest of the circuit.

It's the very same as his Tower in a sense. The air capacitor in the tower is between the top load as a plate and the ground. Since it is an open circuit you could get huge voltage gains but at the expense of current. Tesla knew that if a current had little amps it would not be restricted going across a resistance. Hence the Nickle chips device he was testing. As the resistance changed so did the voltage across that resistance and hence it would be a great sensitive detector.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on January 27, 2017, 10:27:32 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 27, 2017, 12:11:29 AM

Ok....so you cannot demonstrate your theory.....?

Either...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on January 27, 2017, 10:52:10 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 27, 2017, 10:31:50 AM

I most certainly can and have demonstrate my theory in action.... I have no need nor desire to show you a damn thing....

I have not seen a demonstration nor has others. At least refer us to the theory of operation and the demonstration of such theory.

If you have no such desire to show us anything then why are you here?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on January 27, 2017, 11:17:13 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 27, 2017, 10:59:46 AM

Speak for yourself....you have not seen a demonstration. The reason for this.....you're not on the list. I am not referring you to my theory of operation, nor a demonstration.

I am not obligated to share anything with you, and as far as why I am here.... you've expressed your opinion that I am troll now live with that.....

"Apparatus for Producing Ozone

For the record Tesla patented the bifilar coil under the patent titled: Coils for Electro Magnets. He never mentions however when he uses this particular winding! I have discovered that when you understand how his systems works, it becomes self evident where the coil should be placed. As an example I offer the following:

454,622 System Of Electric Lighting

This patent predates the ozone patent. I mention this particular one because of its simplicity. In this patent Tesla makes use of the disruptive discharge, whereby a generator of low voltage charges an inductor (P). The voltage is raised by secondary (S). Secondary (S) charges capacitor (C). Capacitor (C) discharges across the spark gap (a) through primary (P'), which induces a voltage of high frequency and potential in the secondary (S'). It is this second secondary winding which is a bifilar winding.

This patent should be compared to the ozone patent, taking note of all similarities and all differences. Once you comprehend these patents you will then have the proper tools for the production of any amount of gas be it hydrogen, oxygen, or any other gas you desire.

It should be understood that what we are demonstrating is nothing more than molecular excitation. We are dividing, shifting, and concentrating the molecules within the medium (water). All that garbage about electrons and what not is not needed, it only clouds the issue. You are vibrating the medium, and through this action, are dissolving the molecular bonds established between hydrogen and oxygen, and simultaneously causing the hydrogen and oxygen to form stabilized groups of their own on opposing electrodes.

Violently shaking the medium is one of Nature's methods.

Regard"

You can play your games but I know your intentions.

"Hi,

Please forgive my intrusion, I just wanted to offer the following.

I take interest in noting that no one has recognized that the production of ozone by high voltage discharge is a "Cold Fusion" process on the molecular level! It is known that very little input energy is required for the production of enormous amounts of ozone gas.

Lets assume that an environment of air and and environment of water are one and the same, the only difference being the density of the medium in question. Tesla indicated in his ozone patent, that he had devised a means by which gasses other than ozone could be produced, unfortunately he never revealed how this device could be adapted to produce the other gasses, or did he.

Quote:

568,177 Apparatus for Producing Ozone

In my present improvement I have utilized appliances of this general character under conditions and in combination with certain instrumentalities, hereinafter described, which enable me to produce, without difficulty and at very slight expense, ozone in any desired quantities.

I would state the apparatus which I have devised for this purpose is capable of other and highly important uses of a similar nature, but for the purposes of the present case I deem it sufficient to describe its operation and effects when used for the purpose of generating ozone.

End Quote

It must be remembered Tesla wanted to burn/combust atmospheric nitrogen, and successful in doing so, the frequency and potential of the current required for this was hundreds of times greater than those required for the production of ozone.

In the open atmosphere the circuit in this patent 568,177 produces ozone, in a different environment.....

The bifilar winding is very special arrangement. It was around long before the birth of Tesla, he was simply the one to recognize its importance and significance in the sphere of electricity. Its true power and purpose can only be demonstrated when it is properly wound, and placed in a circuit specifically designed for its use, and therein lies the problem. There are too many theories as to the bifilar coils purpose!

Regards"

Shall I continue?

ok then:

"You are the first person I have seen who like myself refers to CEMF as the soul of the machine, and who seems to have found what I have found, but in a different manner. Namely, you appear to be demonstrating the blending of the two special case voltage and current sources, special case because they have the ability to seemingly overcome any impedance offered to them. Specifically, you have a voltage source that overcomes impedance combined with a current source which overcomes impedance. You are combining the voltage generated by an inductors opposition to change in current, with the current generated by a capacitors opposition to changes in voltage. It feels good seeing you do this, and doing so with relays. I don't think folks really appreciate or realize what you are showing, I do, and am glad to finally see someone else doing it. I think Ismael Aviso was one of the first to do something similar, but he never showed anyone any specifics.

Keep up the excellent work.

Edit....for those who don't know...this is what the Tesla Ozone patent demonstrates....sorry for going off topic...

Regards

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 27, 2017, 11:57:36 AM

Stanley Meyer completed what Tesla omitted.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on January 27, 2017, 12:23:05 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 27, 2017, 11:26:24 AM

You don't need my permission....

While you are at it, pull up everything everyone has posted on the subject since 2006 and fill up the rest of Stefan's space, I dont give a shit...LOL

Thats ok you are the one filling up space. How many times did you reply to post with only emoji's?

In all of your posts not one proof has been supplied. Not that I don't think along the lines of your thinking. I am highly content with Tesla's experiments which I have intermittently proven to myself. As for proving it to others, I am trying to get all of it together and coherent with proof of the experiments. It takes quite a while to unprogram myself from the traditional electronics I learned to work on consumer electronics. I still find myself going back to the established theories only to find that they don't work for this new Technique.

But for you there is a certain enjoyment from taunting others in the attempt to talk about Tesla. You taunt them instead of teach them. You belittle them, All the while showing no demonstration of your understanding by all of your previous posts. Not one link to anything that proves your theory.

In my attempt to educate I try to go back to the words of Tesla as the source and so do you but then thats where you stop. I on the other hand am working to first educate and get the ball rolling for others to think about these experiments and understand the methods fully so they can replicate it with understanding. You on the other hand say you have done the work without providing one proof of that work as you are requiring of me. Going back through all of your posts not one link provided by you has been posted of that work. Although you have stated you have demonstrated that already. Where is that link that you have provided as you have stated?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: barbosi on January 27, 2017, 02:31:27 PM

Quote from: jbignes5 on January 27, 2017, 12:23:05 PM
In all of your posts not one proof has been supplied.

In his last youtube presentation, among other several things erfinder showed that acceleration under the load is possible.

To show your worth, can you present another method of acceleration under load?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on January 27, 2017, 02:57:01 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 25, 2017, 05:01:21 PM

The correct answer is

B. cap

Everyone I have asked got it wrong..... Why do I consider the cap the fulcrum of the system?

First of all thank you for pushing us to deeper levels of understanding. Your contribution is so valuable to many of us!

You have already spoken about two mechanisms of storage. I see them both in this patent. I feel that you point to the condition that it needs for the flawless transfer of energy between the two different in quality storages. I think I understand why you don't care about tuning right here. We just want to transfer energy in one shot. We don't care about series resonance as we want to avoid oscillations. All the energy has to change storage in one single shot. The objective is for the less capacitive reactance. Is that true?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on January 28, 2017, 02:23:20 AM

displacement current
self-induction
reactive power

all in the end are manifestation of the same .... energy source

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on January 28, 2017, 01:02:16 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 28, 2017, 07:09:41 AM
Hello Jeg,

I appreciate you being here participating in this exchange of ideas...

My dogma....

A careful examination of the ozone circuit reveals that there are several oscillators operating simultaneous-sequentially.

Great post exposing some dark corners of this Tesla's quote which is really an art. "'When the conditions are such that the general law of harmonic vibrations is followed...''

I see that many years now you refer to cemf and its significance. I started studying it in more depth before few months and it is really a great tool for someone if realize its origin and behavior. Mostly its behavior. It is a well misunderstood action. But I know how it goes. One recognizes something only if and when he recognizes it. Not even a minute before.

Before few days you spoke about Impedance mismatch... I can see the picture. I wonder if the high frequency oscillations across the parallel tank, induce HF currents across the motor coils when they are charging.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on January 28, 2017, 09:08:35 PM

After a chat with erfinder the other day I decided to try a little experiment. I modified a universal motor by adding a wire from one of the commutator segments out to a slip ring to see what I would get on that slip ring. I am not the first person to do this and I am not making any claims that this is some kind of OU device. But I do think it makes an interesting research tool.

The motor I used is from a 120 volt weed eater. I think almost any universal motor will work. I disconnected the field windings from the armature windings. They were all connected in series before. Since this was a 120 volt motor and I wanted to run it on a lower voltage I wired the two field coils in parallel so they would need less voltage to generate a strong field. However I discovered it would run without any current being applied to the field windings.

In the test scope shot I am running the motor on 24 volts at about 450 milliamps. You can see there are quite a few spikes. The scope is connected from the slip ring to ground (the return side of the armature supply).

Some of the questions that could be learned maybe are questions like can we increase the spikes if we narrow the brushes so they only contact one commutator segment at time? What is the best way to harness the spikes? Can we adjust the motor to get more of the spikes to the peaks of the voltage sine wave?

I will try to answer questions as best I can. I don't stay on my computer all the time so you may have to wait for an answer although I do check it several times a day if I am not too busy.

Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on January 29, 2017, 06:58:44 AM

Nice work Carroll.
I was looking for those peaks when i asked about a possible interaction between parallel LC and motor coils. As it seems the multiple commutator segments are the cause of them. (I need to find a motor to play with :))
Thanks for sharing.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on January 29, 2017, 09:31:00 AM

Quote from: citfta on January 28, 2017, 09:08:35 PM
After a chat with erfinder the other day I decided to try a little experiment. I modified a universal motor by adding a wire from one of the commutator segments out to a slip ring to see what I would get on that slip ring. I am not the first person to do this and I am not making any claims that this is some kind of OU device. But I do think it makes an interesting research tool.

The motor I used is from a 120 volt weed eater. I think almost any universal motor will work. I disconnected the field windings from the armature windings. They were all connected in series before. Since this was a 120 volt motor and I wanted to run it on a lower voltage I wired the two field coils in parallel so they would need less voltage to generate a strong field. However I discovered it would run without any current being applied to the field windings.

In the test scope shot I am running the motor on 24 volts at about 450 milliamps. You can see there are quite a few spikes. The scope is connected from the slip ring to ground (the return side of the armature supply).

Some of the questions that could be learned maybe are questions like can we increase the spikes if we narrow the brushes so they only contact one commutator segment at time? What is the best way to harness the spikes? Can we adjust the motor to get more of the spikes to the peaks of the voltage sine wave?

I will try to answer questions as best I can. I don't stay on my computer all the time so you may have to wait for an answer although I do check it several times a day if I am not too busy.

Carroll

Narrowing the brushes is the secret of the Lockridge device. Your scope shot is getting close to the Alexander patent, which was cloned by Lutec (and banned by the Ausie NWO govt.) Remember: excessive humidity destroys static.........think....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on January 29, 2017, 12:22:58 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on January 29, 2017, 09:31:00 AM
Narrowing the brushes is the secret of the Lockridge device. Your scope shot is getting close to the Alexander patent, which was cloned by Lutec (and banned by the Ausie NWO govt.) Remember: excessive humidity destroys static.........think....

@all

Well, well, let me just simply the matter for all of you since you all think the Ozone Patent is complete and since I have been saying IT IS NOT.

So answer this one question. Can the capacitor (L) charge if the commutator (E) brushes OVERLAP? When I say overlap, I mean like in 99.9% of all DC motors the brushes are wider then one commutator segment so two segments are always engaged. Think!!!!

Like I said, Tesla left out pertinent information on the patent notably better specs on the commutator as well as on the rotary switch (H). The variables here are tremendous.

So just build it hey. Don't talk to me about building just because @Erfinder will only listen to you if you can "demonstrate" your opinion. Screw that man. I prefer working 99% of the device in my mind first, work out all the bugs first, anticipate the pitfalls first, that's damn why we gain experience with the years, then produce the BEST FIRST TRY, not just a pot luck build that is always done on these forums.

So go ahead and build it any way you want. You decide arbitrarily the DC motor choice, the rotary contact numbers, lengths, etc. Test it any way you want. The variables will still be ahead of you 100 times over. This is not your regular patent. He could have made ozone with a simple AC supply and a step up transformer.

Could say much more but no point to it.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on January 29, 2017, 02:03:08 PM

Quote from: wattsup on January 29, 2017, 12:22:58 PM
@all

So answer this one question. Can the capacitor (L) charge if the commutator (E) brushes OVERLAP? When I say overlap, I mean like in 99.9% of all DC motors the brushes are wider then one commutator segment so two segments are always engaged. Think!!!!

Hi wattsup
Capacitor charges and discharges anyway. Overlapping seems necessary for securing a continuous flaw of current through the motor coils. When switch/controller opens 'H', capacitor charges. You might confused controller on the right of the motor with brushes and commutator/segments on the left.
In addition and with all the respect, we are grown up men. I think. Well, at least most. Each one can choose for himself whom to listen.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on January 29, 2017, 04:46:56 PM

Quote from: Jeg on January 29, 2017, 02:03:08 PM
Hi wattsup
Capacitor charges and discharges anyway. Overlapping seems necessary for securing a continuous flaw of current through the motor coils. When switch/controller opens 'H', capacitor charges. You might confused controller on the right of the motor with brushes and commutator/segments on the left.
In addition and with all the respect, we are grown up men. I think. Well, at least most. Each one can choose for himself whom to listen.
Regards

@Jag

That is oh so wrong. Maybe think again.

@Erfinder

OK, so there is no talking with you and with your "I could not care less" crap. So call me after your 1000th experiment and we'll see how much wiser you are then. When you come to then agree with my stance, we will talk again.

Just for the record, I could not care less about what you do not care less about. We're not here to cater to what you care or don't care about. You definitely have a problem and it's not on the bench. Normal people would generally want to go even deeper and would welcome the opportunity, but you just brush it off. Just amazingly disappointing, so good luck. You will not hear from me again.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on January 30, 2017, 01:47:03 AM

That is sad, very sad, where is the love and the friendship, where is the professional exchange of ideas without using dirty words.

God bless us! :'( :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 02, 2017, 10:09:39 PM

What happen here? :-\ ??? :D

BEING PROFESSIONAL WE SHOULD BE ACTING, WRITE AND TALK AS A PROFESSIONALS OK? ;)

FORGET THAT JUST MOVE ON. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSno9pXx7Cg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSno9pXx7Cg)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2017, 12:45:48 AM

Tito

Why show that vid? What is the reason?

You and others probably have seen my pics and explanations of that exact type of motor a while ago. I did find how the windings are connected in series, but not just next to each other, but a series winding that goes around the disk more than once, between the 2 designated brush contacts as he shows are the same as the motor I had shown.

That vid kinda shows he does not understand it much. He doesnt understand a coreless armature and seems to believe that the plastic encasing the windings has something to do with the magnetic fields like a core does. It is a homopolar motor that is segmented into portions and timed with the magnets positions using the brushes and commutator. The plastic just holds the windings in place as a flat disk. The motor casing is the core of the stator magnets.

Again, what is so special in that vid that we should understand as he explains it??? ???

It seems very much so that you show a lot of misleading info. :(

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2017, 01:25:39 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 03, 2017, 12:45:48 AM
Tito

Why show that vid? What is the reason?

You and others probably have seen my pics and explanations of that exact type of motor a while ago. I did find how the windings are connected in series, but not just next to each other, but a series winding that goes around the disk more than once, between the 2 designated brush contacts as he shows are the same as the motor I had shown.

That vid kinda shows he does not understand it much. He doesnt understand a coreless armature and seems to believe that the plastic encasing the windings has something to do with the magnetic fields like a core does. It is a homopolar motor that is segmented into portions and timed with the magnets positions using the brushes and commutator. The plastic just holds the windings in place as a flat disk. The motor casing is the core of the stator magnets.

Again, what is so special in that vid that we should understand as he explains it??? ???

It seems very much so that you show a lot of misleading info. :(

Mags

Its just nothing much buddy, i was just amazed about the simplicity of that motor, maybe i felt the same thing as gerard felt about that motor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2017, 01:47:15 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on February 03, 2017, 01:03:41 AM

With this post, you demonstrate that you have no idea! With this post you knowingly perpetuate ignorance. With this post you officially align yourself with the stupid of the world. With this post any hope that I had that you would recognize truth died.

You and the crybaby wouldn't know professionalism if it bit you on your ass and or spit in your face. See anything useful coming from Morin, anything useful in that 36:53, WTF was that anyway? NO, you didn't get anything from that video or any of his videos because dumbshits perpetuate dumb shit..... And now you ask your followers to bask in the aura of his dumbfuckness.

Yes.....you should move on, in this line you are proving to be the definition of "useless", ice fishing maybe...

Well, first of all i respect you sir, cause one time i was so very admiring your works but now it seems that i feel so dissapointed sorry, but that is just what i feel.
i'm a changed man, i have no time for quarreling anymore, we can actually talk peacefully and respectfully with each other ok. ;)

Be cool sir, but still i admire you sir less your words. ;) [size=78%] [/size]

For me, the truth will set you free but what i see in you is you are being bound with something i dunno. :-\
professionalism can be clearly seen just by the way we talk actually. :)

actually i'm not asking anyone cause i'm very free man accepting anything from anyone and from God. :)

once again, be cool sir because you are hurting someones feeling from unpleasant word and that i believe is not fruitful here ok.

Thank you and hope we can be all friends. :D

God Bless
otits :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2017, 01:56:36 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2017, 01:25:39 AM

Its just nothing much buddy, i was just amazed about the simplicity of that motor, maybe i felt the same thing as gerard felt about that motor.

Well its like Erfinder said, 30 some min of what then?

And the motor is not so simple. The ingenuity is in the pattern of the series windings of the disk. It took me a bit of time to wrap my head around the windings beginning and end as shown by the brush positions. Like they could have had the brushes 180deg like 'simple' motors. But that would be a very very low ohm input. But the windings go around the disk 3 times from end to end, brush to brush, providing the full windings of the disk with power without any windings in parallel, all in series.

It is a very interesting motor design, but not so simple, as Gerard did not get it. The coreless armatures provide very quick acceleration, quick speed change, and less the core weight, more efficient.

But like ER says, you have a lot of followers, and this is what they get? Sad

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2017, 02:05:17 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2017, 01:47:15 AM

Well, first of all i respect you sir, cause one time i was so very admiring your works but now it seems that i feel so dissapointed sorry, but that is just what i feel.
i'm a changed man, i have no time for quarreling anymore, we can actually talk peacefully and respectfully with each other ok. ;)

Be cool sir, but still i admire you sir less your words. ;) [size=78%] [/size]

For me, the truth will set you free but what i see in you is you are being bound with something i dunno. :-\
professionalism can be clearly seen just by the way we talk actually. :)

actually i'm not asking anyone cause i'm very free man accepting anything from anyone and from God. :)

once again, be cool sir because you are hurting someones feeling from unpleasant word and that i believe is not fruitful here ok.

Thank you and hope we can be all friends. :D

God Bless
otits :D

Lol. Talk about what? Certainly not about how to build an OU device. Other than that, this is the wrong thread, dont ya think? Anyone that is interested in this thread are interested in your claims. But they get vid after vid of guys showing fake OU devices all while they collect their checks from the ads. Maybe you get some of that payback by directing people here to such vids. Its not that the people here are getting ripped off monetarily by watching the vids. Its that they expect that you are pointing them in the right direction, which you are not, and wasting so much of peoples time on fake hope.

So how have you changed, as you say? It still feels the same as it has been since the beginning.... Fake hope. And that makes you feel good. :(

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pauldude000 on February 03, 2017, 04:58:14 AM

Tito,

I am far from the proverbial wet blanket, though I am a realist. Everything about Over Unity, the very concept, is to me the ultimate physics logic exercise. You see, energy can neither be created nor destroyed according to the 1st law of thermodynamics, namely the law of conservation of energy. (More philosophy than fact, since space time constantly does just that with virtual particles, but hey, who am I to judge? POP, virtual particle at twelve O'clock -- oops it's gone.)

You see, the energy in our universe is balanced so nicely, just look at dark matter -- ooops, bad example.

The simple fact is that in our ultimate knowledge that leaves no room for doubt, we demonstrate our search for energy conversion of known energy sources since we know for a fact exactly where all energy comes from and of what type it can be, as well as just what manner it may transform to another. You see, science is somehow omniscient -- an inherently inerrant force of sheer human intellect.

Please pardon the sarcasm.

Now, seriously. What we are looking for with the concept of overunity is an undiscovered source of usable, convertible, controllable energy. By definition, if it was easy to find or convert, the aforementioned would have found that energy source and converted it already, since they are masters of the obvious. An overunity device in such a situation is just a circuit or device that allows the energy to flow and then converts it at a controlled rate into a known usable form, such as electricity, magnetism, or heat. We are looking for the stuff that the aforementioned eggheads are either "too smart" -- or too scared -- to look for themselves. They might get their hair mussed or something.

(Over the last seven years or so, my estimate of their collective intelligence has not been towards the positive, if you cannot discern. I have met some individually smart ones, but there seems to be a collective net negative.)

Paul Andrulis

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on February 03, 2017, 07:06:20 PM

I have Just a question... WHY DAVE45 APPEARS AS GUEST??? :( :( :( :(

Had They removed him for their last comments? when Showing us pure Overunity device??

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on February 03, 2017, 07:21:11 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on February 03, 2017, 07:06:20 PM
I have Just a question... WHY DAVE45 APPEARS AS GUEST??? :( :( :( :(

when Showing us pure Overunity device??

LOL @ showing Pure OU device

Dave has never shown anything except that he is a fool who can post a lot of nonsense

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on February 03, 2017, 07:23:30 PM

This was relevant the first time I posted it.....so here it is again

Tito we still await your simple answers. Seems like everyone is sick of your childish nonsense.

Hey Leoelgb/Tito Oracion/Forest/AlienGrey etc

So I was looking at your internet address and you are all the same person. So to not waste time here and the rest of the forum members here are some questions for you TITO or whatever your real name is.

1) 8 Years ago you thanked many of the forum members here for helping you discover free energy. You promised that "in a little while you would let everyone know the secret" WELL ITS 8 YEARS LATER IDIOT AND AFTER MAKING A MILLION EXCUSES YOU HAVENT!!! Interesting...you claim to be a follower of Christ but seems you follow your Father SATAN who was a liar from the beginning. LOL

2) You don't have overunity.... LIE AGAIN

3) You claimed that ONE of the reasons you do not tell others here that you will not release the secret is because you are afraid for your life. THIS MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL". Why keep posting hints supposedly trying to help people find the secret over 8 Years and draw attention to yourself???????? I Mean if you really have free energy why not be happy and just go sell bananas oR ice water or whatever it is you do in the Phillippines!!!. You must also be most stupid person on the planet that after having OU for 8 years you have not even been able to make one device and sell to an investor?????????? LMAO

4) EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR YOUTUBE LINKS IS A FRAUD.

5) So what exactly are you doing here? Are you on medication? Are you off medications ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ? WHATEVER YOU ARE TAKING YOU NEED TO EITHER DOUBLE THE DOSE OR HALVE IT?

6) In case you missed it earlier YOU ARE A LIAR AND TIME WASTER

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2017, 10:47:49 PM

:( :( :( :( :(
i'm Sooo sad about the comments :( :( :( :( :(

I thought i was helping in my little way.

Wait!, before anything else, i don't want anybody to follow me, i'm just happy showing what i think can help someone ok?.

now forget everything that passed ok i don't want to talk about the passed anymore cause it just make my dragon live again ok?.
i'm a change man believe it or not i don't care. :D

it seems that what ever i say there is an equivalent reaction whether its white or black, it seems none sense or not good. so be it, if thats what you think its still up to you. :)

I DON'T GET ANY PAYBACK OK!!!, FOR YOUR INFORMATION!!!, YOU TRY TO ASKED ANYONE OK!!!! :-* :-* THAT IS A FORM OF FALSE ACCUSER. You @#$@#$@#$@#$#@$@#$ joke. ;D :D ;) ;) :-*

If you feel your precious time is wasted, then stop reading it ok?, do not blame anyone if you are studying something and you get nothing it still part of learning ok, am i still going to discuss it in detail? wow. ???

if you seems to know a lot of things especially in this field, then just share, you don't have to destroy someones just to lift up your chair, got it?! you #$%#@$^%$%^$%^$^ joke. :D

i am not forcing anyone to believe me ok? i am just sharing some little things to me thinking it can help ok?. :P

i don't want to go down to your level sorry. don't want quarreling anymore. :P :D ;D :-*

Tito Oracion is unique ok, i am not whoever here ok :D you are wrong there boy. seems you are endless but #$%#@$%$# joke :D :D ;D ;D :-* :-*

Now, you choose to my answer comment where you feel you were answered. ;) :P

So Now, what do you want to know?, i will answer if worth to be answer ok? bye thank you. You@#$#$%&&&*& joke ;D :-*

You don't want "Be cool" so BE VERY HOT NOW!!! is that what you want so be it. ;D

Bye. God Bless

want to make me bad boy in the floor again?, sorry i don't want to do that again. i'm a change man as i said. :D

see i'm smiling :D [size=78%] [/size]

otiotuks ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on February 03, 2017, 10:58:40 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 03, 2017, 10:47:49 PM
:( :( :( :( :(
i'm Sooo sad about the comments :( :( :( :( :(

I thought i was helping in my little way.

Wait!, before anything else, i don't want anybody to follow me, i'm just happy showing what i think can help someone ok?.

now forget everything that passed ok i don't want to talk about the passed anymore cause it just make my dragon live again ok?.
i'm a change man believe it or not i don't care. :D

it seems that what ever i say there is an equivalent reaction whether its white or black, it seems none sense or not good. so be it, if thats what you think its still up to you. :)

I DON'T GET ANY PAYBACK OK!!!, FOR YOUR INFORMATION!!!, YOU TRY TO ASKED ANYONE OK!!!! :-* :-* THAT IS A FORM OF FALSE ACCUSER. You @#$@#$@#$@#$#@$@#$ joke. ;D :D ;) ;) :-*

If you feel your precious time is wasted, then stop reading it ok?, do not blame anyone if you are studying something and you get nothing it still part of learning ok, am i still going to discuss it in detail? wow. ???

if you seems to know a lot of things especially in this field, then just share, you don't have to destroy someones just to lift up your chair, got it?! you #$%#@$^%$%^$%^$^ joke. :D

i am not forcing anyone to believe me ok? i am just sharing some little things to me thinking it can help ok?. :P

i don't want to go down to your level sorry. don't want quarreling anymore. :P :D ;D :-*

Tito Oracion is unique ok, i am not whoever here ok :D you are wrong there boy. seems you are endless but #$%#@$%$# joke :D :D ;D ;D :-* :-*

Now, you choose to my answer comment where you feel you were answered. ;) :P

So Now, what do you want to know?, i will answer if worth to be answer ok? bye thank you. You@#$#$%&&&*& joke ;D :-*

You don't want "Be cool" so BE VERY HOT NOW!!! is that what you want so be it. ;D

Bye. God Bless

want to make me bad boy in the floor again?, sorry i don't want to do that again. i'm a change man as i said. :D

see i'm smiling :D [size=78%] [/size]

otiotuks ;D

You're the man, The real unic Tito L. Oracion, Good for You, you have thousands and thousands following you. Thank you for be cool! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 03, 2017, 11:35:20 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on February 03, 2017, 10:58:40 PM
You're the man, The real unic Tito L. Oracion, Good for You, you have thousands and thousands following you. Thank you for be cool! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)

The man??? How??? What have you gotten from these pages that leads you to praise him???? A big dose of fake hope????? ::)

And Tito, what is it that you are instilling in the readers minds by saying "You @#$@#$@#$@#$#@$@#$ joke." Would a preacher of the Bible use such a joke??? ::) Again and again and again????? ??? When you say such things, what is it that you are making the readers 'say' in their heads when you post such things???? And you tell others not to use such words here. ;)

Listen very carefully....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1NUposXVQ

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on February 04, 2017, 01:51:12 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 03, 2017, 11:35:20 PM
The man??? How??? What have you gotten from these pages that leads you to praise him???? A big dose of fake hope????? ::)
Mags

Dear Mags:

Do not choose the dark side, on that side there is only darkness.
Choose the good side, there is always light on this side and it's free.

When Tito started this thread (February 06, 2009, 07:45:08 AM) he put a diagram and said: "The solution is always at our eyes we just overlook it."

Tito all the time has been telling the truth, but only missing a little detail. And thank to God and a very special person who has more ideas and creativity than any, I got it. ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2017, 02:50:26 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on February 04, 2017, 01:51:12 AM
Dear Mags:

Do not choose the dark side, on that side there is only darkness.
Choose the good side, there is always light on this side and it's free.

When Tito started this thread (February 06, 2009, 07:45:08 AM) he put a diagram and said: "The solution is always at our eyes we just overlook it."

Then think, why they put to Dave45 as guest? And compare or combine Dave's diagram with this and tell me what you get. Where is the missing part?

Tito all the time has been telling the truth, but only missing a little detail. And thank to God and a very special person who has more ideas and creativity than any, I got it. ;D ;D

Hey Leon

Which diagram of Daves?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on February 04, 2017, 03:12:00 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 04, 2017, 02:50:26 AM
Hey Leon

Which diagram of Daves?

Mags

Leon IS Tito

Wake up Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 04, 2017, 03:12:08 AM

flood type of supression
fill the space with garbagge until it flips to the next page
people tend to look always at the end page of thread

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2017, 03:38:10 AM

Quote from: endlessoceans on February 04, 2017, 03:12:00 AM
Leon IS Tito

Wake up Mags

I read that you found them all to be the same. Can you show some info that proves that? Interested.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2017, 07:17:48 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on February 04, 2017, 01:51:12 AM
Dear Mags:

Do not choose the dark side, on that side there is only darkness.
Choose the good side, there is always light on this side and it's free.

When Tito started this thread (February 06, 2009, 07:45:08 AM) he put a diagram and said: "The solution is always at our eyes we just overlook it."

Then think, why they put to Dave45 as guest? And compare or combine Dave's diagram with this and tell me what you get. Where is the missing part?

Tito all the time has been telling the truth, but only missing a little detail. And thank to God and a very special person who has more ideas and creativity than any, I got it. ;D ;D

Im sorry, but the dark side is telling others that they definitely have OU figured out, in several different ways ::) , then putting up fake stuff to 'try' and substantiate it.

I look at that Floyd drawing and I have many times and it is incomplete as far as I know. Like where is the vacuum applied here? Is it all encased in a vacuum? And triode seems like a vacuum tube deal, but I dont see it in the depiction. Sorry if I havnt been blessed with your vision of it all and how you suggest that by flipping the toggle of the battery input, what, 2-15v, and end up with 120vac @ 60hz? Where is the description of that process that determines that outcome?

What is the core made of? What, are they just 2 separate rod cores? What size? What material? What everything to get us to the results shown in the paper?

How is it that the "Fundamental Equations of Electromagnetics" describe how the right angle coils to the far left and right, affect the coils in the middle? Where do I find such info, as not much is provided here?

So what now. Just build 2 rod core transformers, bifi windings and the small winding at the bottoms, then wind up 4 coils and set them at right angles, perpendicular, to the rod transformers, switch on and off the battery and we should see positive results ?

I dunno. I havnt seen anyone build this one yet.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on February 04, 2017, 07:55:15 AM

Hi Mags,

The vacuum triode amplifier is a terrible choice for a name for that device. Like you, when I first heard the name I thought of a triode vacuum tube or as they call it across the ocean a valve. That is not what it is at all. There are some videos on Youtube that show Tom Beardon and Floyd Sweet working with the device. It supposedly draws energy from the "vacuum". If I recall correctly all those coils are wound on a special type of magnet. Then some of the coils have to be powered in a certain way to do something to rearrange the magnetic domains of that magnet. Then the circuit is connected like the drawing and supposedly you have a working device. I so far have not found anyone that has been able to get one to work. As far as the triode part goes I don't know where that comes from. Maybe the way they count the coils. I hope this helps a little.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2017, 08:57:47 AM

Quote from: citfta on February 04, 2017, 07:55:15 AM
Hi Mags,

The vacuum triode amplifier is a terrible choice for a name for that device. Like you, when I first heard the name I thought of a triode vacuum tube or as they call it across the ocean a valve. That is not what it is at all. There are some videos on Youtube that show Tom Beardon and Floyd Sweet working with the device. It supposedly draws energy from the "vacuum". If I recall correctly all those coils are wound on a special type of magnet. Then some of the coils have to be powered in a certain way to do something to rearrange the magnetic domains of that magnet. Then the circuit is connected like the drawing and supposedly you have a working device. I so far have not found anyone that has been able to get one to work. As far as the triode part goes I don't know where that comes from. Maybe the way they count the coils. I hope this helps a little.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Hey Carroll

Well there ya go. Special magnet cores. So Leon has some of these special magnet cores as he attests to saying it works. ??? He got it. ::) But no proofs other than he says he has it. Just like tito.

So lets everyone go out and order every type of special magnets til we get it done. ::) ;)

Im just tired of the "it requires a special (something)" or "its not all there in the drawing, there is a 'twist' " Its all too common with these things. Like a 'twist' could mean a million combinations of anything, or something added to do so. And what really gets me is, they say its simple. Simple doesnt take 8 years, especially if what we were supplied with eliminated the time it supposedly took to find what was supplied. Look around. Many of the same people swarm this thread when Tito posts a list of vids. Then some throw him great praise so that he may show mercy on their withered souls. Is it that some have gotten it and are now just like Tito and open source is out of the question and self needs are strong enough to keep them all hush hush? Not one soul that would take the effort to turn one fish into enough for everyone??? hmmm. ???

Titos response to everyone that claims they didnt get it yet is that we are all lazy. What a vague excuse for the numbers of people that are still looking and waiting for the truth. There are many very smart people here that exceed my level in all this, and yet we have no gogo.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2017, 09:01:25 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on February 04, 2017, 08:07:51 AM

This is where I set my compass and sail into the sunset.

Your opening line is where the triode part comes from...maybe.... ( a careful consideration followed by a careful comparison.)

Consider the vacuum tube is a valve used to control "electrical current", and the Vacuum Triode is/was a valve used to control "magnetic current", a switch for magnetic circuits. Noteworthy, with the prior, the supply is extraterrestrial, whereas with the latter, the source is included... Hope this inspires....

Regards

Hey Er

Are you suggesting the Floyd setup is something that needs further inspection?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 04, 2017, 09:11:05 AM

Quote from: citfta on February 04, 2017, 07:55:15 AM
Hi Mags,

The vacuum triode amplifier is a terrible choice for a name for that device. Like you, when I first heard the name I thought of a triode vacuum tube or as they call it across the ocean a valve. That is not what it is at all. There are some videos on Youtube that show Tom Beardon and Floyd Sweet working with the device. It supposedly draws energy from the "vacuum". If I recall correctly all those coils are wound on a special type of magnet. Then some of the coils have to be powered in a certain way to do something to rearrange the magnetic domains of that magnet. Then the circuit is connected like the drawing and supposedly you have a working device. I so far have not found anyone that has been able to get one to work. As far as the triode part goes I don't know where that comes from. Maybe the way they count the coils. I hope this helps a little.

Respectfully,
Carroll

I've got a copy of the vid. It's 153 meg and FLV. If you know of any way to get it to you, I am all ears.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2017, 09:28:39 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on February 04, 2017, 09:13:35 AM

Would it surprise you were I to suggest that the two documents I brought to the attention of the group are "prerequisites" to a more advanced discussion which would include concepts related to what is being suggested by Floyd Sweet?

Ok. The ozone pat, and if you would, what was the other?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 04, 2017, 10:13:15 AM

Going over the pat, did before and the phase delay of the longer cores, made of steel,etc. is what I remember most.
Not sure yet. Is it the shorter core windings get affected by the armature field more, in turn affecting the long core windings electrically? Sorry for the dizzy answer thus far.

Been up all night working. Tired. Still have more work to do. Ill get back at this as I think on it.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on February 04, 2017, 12:58:44 PM

THE WAY I DECIPHER THIS DRAWING IS THAT THE WINDING ARE WOUND ORTHOGONALITY, AND THE SWITCHING ARRANGEMENT IS ACTUALLY A DC TO 60 HZ INVERTER , AS THE INPUT SOURCE..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: EMOD on February 04, 2017, 06:06:32 PM

what type of Energy Amplification?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: shylo on February 04, 2017, 06:50:45 PM

Quote from: webby1 on February 04, 2017, 12:51:55 PM
I have long held the view that when I pass a PM past a conductor, that by itself, I only create a current flow, that flow being linked to the flux and on the rate of change of said flux,, not creating a voltage.

Does not the resistance of the circuit ,automatically create voltage?(E=IxR)

I see the counter force manifested by that current flow equaling the flux that is creating the flow and the force used to create the change,, moving the PM past the conductor.

Yes I agree , so have the formation of this counter force to augment the next stage of generation.

I read that the change in flux induces a voltage,, which is not what my view is.

You can't use a single coil or even two ,you need at least three fields, but you can use more, but always an odd number.
Just what I'm seeing.
artv

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: shylo on February 04, 2017, 06:54:56 PM

Sorry Webby, I did something wrong my questions somehow got entered into your post.
artv

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 05, 2017, 12:13:20 PM

Quote from: seychelles on February 04, 2017, 12:58:44 PM
THE WAY I DECIPHER THIS DRAWING IS THAT THE WINDING ARE WOUND ORTHOGONALITY, AND THE SWITCHING ARRANGEMENT IS ACTUALLY A DC TO 60 HZ INVERTER , AS THE INPUT SOURCE..

Yes, primary winding is strange. You got it. :-)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Doug1 on February 05, 2017, 02:18:16 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on February 04, 2017, 08:07:51 AM

This is where I set my compass and sail into the sunset.

Your opening line is where the triode part comes from...maybe.... ( a careful consideration followed by a careful comparison.)

Consider the vacuum tube is a valve used to control "electrical current", and the Vacuum Triode is/was a valve used to control "magnetic current", a switch for magnetic circuits. Noteworthy, with the prior, the supply is extraterrestrial, whereas with the latter, the source is included... Hope this inspires....

Regards

be weary of compasses you have to wind up.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 05, 2017, 05:55:11 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 03, 2017, 11:35:20 PM
The man??? How??? What have you gotten from these pages that leads you to praise him? ??? A big dose of fake hope? ??? ? ::)

And Tito, what is it that you are instilling in the readers minds by saying "You @#$@#$@#$@#$#@$@#$ joke." Would a preacher of the Bible use such a joke??? ::) Again and again and again? ??? ? ??? When you say such things, what is it that you are making the readers 'say' in their heads when you post such things? ??? And you tell others not to use such words here. ;)

Listen very carefully....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1NUposXVQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1NUposXVQ)

Mags

Yes!, i am very mad because you are accusing me falsely. >:(
And you know what! even i'm very mad, i'm trying trying to set my attitude in calm state! got it? >:( . You !@#$%^&* ;D :-* joke

I am not! a preacher i am just a sharer! got it. >:(

So what do you want of me?, a dragon heart? >:( , You @#$#$%%^%$^ ;D :D :-* :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 05, 2017, 06:02:25 PM

KML coil gives hope.

And why go further if tesla switch is already there? ;) 8)

What kind of thinking are you?, why not try combining it to ozone shabu technology. ;D
And you will be high in energy. ;D

And if there is wistiti here, why not otitiwis ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dieter on February 05, 2017, 10:12:32 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM
Hi everyone 8)

Currently i am trying to amplify a small voltage into high voltage and its current from milliamps to amps now
Can somebody demonstrate amplify a 1.5 volts with its milliamps into high voltage and from milliamps to amps? ::)

Thank you. ;)

God bless
otits

I really don't get it how this can become a 500+ pages thread.
This sucks.
I take it, apart from being a forums big shot, Tito must now have dozens of working aetheric selfrunners and vids of it.
Can I get a link without to read the 500 pages?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 06, 2017, 02:26:18 AM

Been looking at other patents around the ozone pat. Im not seeing "it".

Like is "it" just the air core arrangement with the pri in that middle on the outside of the sec that gives us an advantage?. In the pictorial of the setup, the primary does look heavy, an what, 5 turns, so very low ohm loss. The cap seems to always be depicted in the schematic but not in the drawings, but in the schematic it always seems to be shown as large. Seems like that would be difficult to get a large capacitance in a bifi coil, in my experience. And the primary doesnt seem to be capable of such a capacitance.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 06, 2017, 06:04:06 AM

Well I was looking for something. It.

I wasnt here for this and just gradually getting interested. Ill go back and see what those suggestions are again.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pix on February 06, 2017, 03:18:32 PM

Finaly I found working principle of TPU.
It took me many years of search and processing information, segregating junk from diamonds.

You will not find any Steven Mark patents, because he could not patent it, it was already patented and in use.
It is related to US AtomiC Energy Commission.
In my opinion they warned him about legal consequences and he did shut up. Eventually he get some money to shut up.
That's all I will reveal.
When I will physically replicate it, I will let you know.

Cheers,
Pix

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 07, 2017, 04:34:36 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPzJr1jjHnQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPzJr1jjHnQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMLWiA5ApUU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMLWiA5ApUU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOQr4SAdRxk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOQr4SAdRxk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwt9K9PWMcU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwt9K9PWMcU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9b0J29OzAU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on February 07, 2017, 05:58:27 PM

Re: GEM=(Geometrical Electricity Multiplication)
« Reply #61 on: Today at 01:09:57 PM »
by that_prophet@yahoo.ca
= joe Lynch
Just one of His Creations
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Using pulley mechanics to multiply AC electricity
------------------------------------------------------------------
I was hoping that I could enrage many deceived people,
--- once they saw just how super simple this idea is, that these evil spirits are desperately hiding
--- --- but I have not yet been able to break this solid hold that they have on the masses
--- --- --- until now,,,
-
How can you not be multiplying AC electricity, when you pay for only one rotation of a DC motor,
--- with a 100 cm circumference pulley attached. (costing higher Voltage + 1 spark of current)
--- --- to crank it over once, gaining 100 cm of moving belt
--- --- --- and then getting back 1000's of units/cycles of AC electricity
--- --- --- --- by running your 100 cm of moving belt past 10 mini-pulleys of 1 cm circumference
--- --- --- --- --- thereby multiplying your rotations to 10X100=1000
--- --- --- --- --- --- ( HOW CAN YOU GO WRONG )
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(WHAT I CAN'T BELIEVE, IS HOW GREAT A HOLD THAT EVIL FORCES HAVE ON MAN)
--- to hide this super simple method of multiplying our AC electricity
--- --- from His ministers even
--- --- --- as I have tried to get 3 or more churches to patent this,,,
--- --- --- --- WITH NO TAKERS,,,
(CRAZY,,, considering that once this is discovered to be real, every government in this world)
(will pass laws, mandating that this tech is used + not oil burning engines,,, which funds terrorist)
-
1 rotation of a 100 cm circumference pulley will give you 100 rotations for as many of the # of
1 cm circumference pulleys attached + with adding simple generators to these 1 cm mini-pulleys,
you can be multiplying your # of AC cycles/units of electricity
--- All through what seemingly legally breaks the laws of thermodynamics
--- --- by using simple pulley mechanics, that we learn in grade school
--- --- --- to actually multiply our AC electricity - (instead of paying for oil to generate it)
-
YES, through pulley mechanics, you can trade one revolution of a 100 cm circumference pulley,
--- into 100 rotations of a 1 cm circumference pulley, (for every 1 cm mini-pulley you add to belt)
--- --- so if added 10 mini-pulleys, you would get a return of 10X100=1000 cycles of AC electricity
THAT'S ONE ROTATION OF A DC MOTOR BEING MULTIPLIED
--- INTO 100 ROTATIONS OF AN AC GENERATOR
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It's as simple as using the laws of pulley mechanics to multiply our AC electricity, by paying for one rotation of a 100 cm circumference pulley, and gaining a return of 100 units/cycles of AC electricity.
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WHY CAN YOU NOT SEE THE BASIC SIMPLICITY OF,
THIS USE OF PULLEYS TO MULTIPLY AC ELECTRICITY.
-
This is a way of seemingly legally breaking the laws of thermodynamics
By using simple pulley mechanics to multiply your rotations = AC electricity
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remember, I have already had one man build 3 different models,,,
but he is worried about the rumors of people disappearing,
I mean those who had actually built working models
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the Book that I put all of my faith in is the Word of God
+ if you want to see how the Holy Bible can prove itself God inspired
you should read a novel called "Armageddon" by a Canadian author named Grant Jeffrey
which proved to me that the KJV Holly Bible was truly Written by God
-
He did this by systematically going through fulfilled Bible Prophecies,
and showed how they were fulfilled right down to the exact day
+ Who else but God, could consistently predict the future
it was one of the rules with God, the one about how He gave a second chance to Israel
after 10 times the original duration
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As in, when you take 10 times the original duration, of the prophecy about when Jesus would enter Jerusalem, you get a second chance for Israel. I don't know about you, but I happen to be quite the skeptic, and thought that maybe the reasons that these prophecies worked out so perfect, was that they were written or changed after they were fulfilled. But this one about Jesus entering Jerusalem on the exact day, + when you take 10 times the original duration, of the time between when it was prophesized + when it was fulfilled, you get may 14th 1948, when the nation of Israel was reborn. http://www.grantjeffrey.com/pdf/JeffBIBLE-EzekVision2.pdf
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<<< EVil-sOLUTION >>> (isn't it amazing what is revealed by the il-s of life)
http://decimationofthisevolutionfairytale.yolasite.com/
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THIS IS GOD'S GIFT TO THE SOON COMING TRIBULATION SAINTS
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/
Because the Door will close on this Prophecy being fulfilled on Jan 15th , 2019
http://doorschristmustpassthrough.yolasite.com/, http://2020-vision.yolasite.com/
These are the rules God has set before us
http://beliefstoliveby.yolasite.com/
possible timing for TRIBULATION SAINTS
http://possibletimingfortribulation.yolasite.com/
UFOs + GHOSTS do exist, there are just not who they pretend to be
http://aliensandghosts.yolasite.com/
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It was how God predicted, to the exact day,,, May 14th, 1948
the day that Israel would get their second chance + become a nation again
Written in the Holy Bible way back in Ezekiel's day
http://www.grantjeffrey.com/pdf/JeffBIBLE-EzekVision2.pdf
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This convinced me that the Holy Bible spoke Truth
About Jesus Christ paying for our Salvation
+ Jesus being the only Door for us to enter Heaven
Becoming a part of God's Family

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 08, 2017, 12:54:11 AM

Posting this a multitude of times is not going to change
The fact that it does not work.
See my post in the other thread.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 08, 2017, 11:54:39 AM

Are we saying that the cap is in the motor windings as a bifi?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: shylo on February 08, 2017, 06:49:55 PM

Does the cap just help sustain the action that's taking place?
The cap doesn't care what force is working, it goes with the stronger.
artv

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on February 08, 2017, 08:55:44 PM

Hello,

i need to replicate tesla ozone patent... if we can charge a cap for free then we are on the right direction!!
using a MOT, cap 35 micro f 450v ac?

the cap is charged in series with primary and discharged in parallel with primary?

thanks and regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 09, 2017, 11:43:02 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on February 09, 2017, 02:14:42 AM

This is one of the more important lessons that this patent teaches. Two circuits built around the capacitor! Comprehend what this means. What is the significance of charging the capacitor in series with the primary, and discharging in parallel with the primary? As the charging and discharging circuits have different impedance characteristics, their operating frequencies are not one and the same. Recognizing this, what impact does it have on the shape of the wave developed in the output? What is the significance of this, advantages and disadvantages?

Good luck...

ok. got it. But I dont know the significance of this. Thought about it but Im lost.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2017, 01:29:01 AM

Ok. Just played around on Circuit sim to see if anything shows up. Im not saying that sim will show anything that is real world, but it does show some things.

Its just very simple, no predetermined parts values other than the large inductor as the motor and the pri of the transformer.

Just a manual operation of the toggle and I seem to end up with the cap being at a high dc offset, oscillating at the lower freq through the large inductor and cap when the switch is open after several switchings.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 10, 2017, 01:30:21 AM

Scope shots above are source on the left. Large inductor in the middle and cap on the right.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 10, 2017, 03:47:58 AM

The significance of this is that the primary connected to the capacitor in parallel is of low ohmic resistance low inductance and so the ampere-turns is producing more energy then the input taken from battery. But the omitted part is that the secondary must allow free oscillations - exactly what Tesla described in his interview. Tito mentioned it many times that the capacitor charged to higher voltage then power source is a blocking device, and that the high inductance not saturated coil is a current limiting device.

This is all fine but you WON'T see the excess energy, until you are Tariel Kapanadze who know how to not disturb resonance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 10, 2017, 03:49:28 AM

You see whenever you have high ampere-turn ratio or high magnetic field density - you have overunity ;-)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on February 10, 2017, 04:55:43 AM

Quote from: forest on February 10, 2017, 03:49:28 AM
You see whenever you have high ampere-turn ratio or high magnetic field density - you have overunity ;-)

Forest

Amazing!!! Youre a bloody genius halfwit fool!!! :o ;D

I didn't realise that soooo many people in the Forum have the secret to OU and spend all day hinting about it. You must be a millionaire Like your Hero Tito and Kapanadze with all the prototypes you sold!! LOL Ohhhh that's right....you ARE Tito and that's why you need to gratify yourself constantly with verbal masturbations.

Please seek help

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on February 10, 2017, 04:57:30 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on February 10, 2017, 04:23:26 AM

Uh....no....but you have the right to believe this if that's what you choose to believe. Typical behavior, those who think they know. Oblivious of the existence and significance of the series LC, focused only on what you have been programmed to consider, namely, the parallel LC. This is why you people still have idols.....they wave the truth before you like a carrot is used to manipulate a beast of burden. WAKE UP!

Is it really that difficult to look at the primary circuit first! Is it asking too much for you people to:

FOCUS ON AND COMPREHEND THE PRIMARY CIRCUIT, IT'S SIMPLICITY, AND IT'S COMPLEXITY BEFORE CONSIDERING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN PRIMARY AND SECONDARY!!!!

I give two shits what Tito "mentioned many times..." The cap doesn't have to be charged to a higher voltage than the source to block....THINK FOR FUCK SAKE!

No shit, the motor coils are choking coils....Tesla told you that...what he didn't tell you, what Tito your mentor hasn't figured out is WHEN THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO FUNCTION AS CHOKES, and WHY!

How in the fuck are you justified in making these claims!?! Your inability to generate excess is your inability to generate excess. Generating excess has nothing to do with needing to transition to solid state.

You praise Kapanadze like you know the guy. I was here when people first started cheerleading for him. It's been over 10 years and you ass worshipers are in the same position today as you were when he first stepped out of the shadows and started playing that song that you can't get out of your fucking heads, but mumble to cause you can't read the music.

And as far as resonance goes, you wouldn't know what resonance was if it walked up to you on the street, sexy as hell, and French kissed you.....passionately. You really think resonance is a single frequency phenomena, let me be the first to tell you....it's not!?

Thanks for the laughs.....most sane posting of this entire thread

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2017, 06:19:47 AM

:-\
>:(
;D
:-*

Hi all...Here is what Tesla said about the capacitor...[/size]"I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular. I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive."http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art07.html (http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art07.html)

I wondered if a few people could expand on what Tesla says.Also here.
"Counsel
I understood a little while ago when you made the statement of using several thousand horsepower put into a condenser, you could take out of the condenser a million horsepower. I wondered if you got the same condition with this machine.

Tesla Yes; I charged the condenser with 40,000 volts. When it was charged full, I discharged it suddenly, through a short circuit which gave me a very rapid rate of oscillation. Let us suppose that I had stored in the condenser 10 watts. Then, for such a wave there is a flux of energy of (4 x 104)2, and this is multiplied by the frequency of 100,000. You see, it may go into thousands or millions of horsepower.I also liked this part."You see, the apparatus which I have devised was an apparatus enabling one to produce tremendous differences of potential and currents in an antenna circuit. These requirements must be fulfilled, whether you transmit by currents of conduction, or whether you transmit by electromagnetic waves. You want high potential currents, you want a great amount of vibratory energy; but you can graduate this vibratory energy. By proper design and choice of wave lengths, you can arrange it so that you get, for instance, 5 percent in these electromagnetic waves and 95 percent in the current that goes through the earth. That is what I am doing. Or you can get, as these radio men, 95 percent in the energy of electromagnetic waves and only 5 percent in the energy of the current. . . . The apparatus is suitable for one or the other method. I am not producing radiation with my system; I am suppressing electromagnetic waves. . . .In my system, you should free yourself of the idea that there is radiation, that the energy is radiated. It is not radiated; it is conserved. . . ."

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 10, 2017, 12:07:44 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 10, 2017, 06:19:47 AM
:-\
>:(
;D
:-*

Hi all...Here is what Tesla said about the capacitor...[/size]"I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular. I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive."http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art07.html (http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art07.html)

I wondered if a few people could expand on what Tesla says.Also here.
"Counsel
I understood a little while ago when you made the statement of using several thousand horsepower put into a condenser, you could take out of the condenser a million horsepower. I wondered if you got the same condition with this machine.

Tesla Yes; I charged the condenser with 40,000 volts. When it was charged full, I discharged it suddenly, through a short circuit which gave me a very rapid rate of oscillation. Let us suppose that I had stored in the condenser 10 watts. Then, for such a wave there is a flux of energy of (4 x 104)2, and this is multiplied by the frequency of 100,000. You see, it may go into thousands or millions of horsepower.I also liked this part."You see, the apparatus which I have devised was an apparatus enabling one to produce tremendous differences of potential and currents in an antenna circuit. These requirements must be fulfilled, whether you transmit by currents of conduction, or whether you transmit by electromagnetic waves. You want high potential currents, you want a great amount of vibratory energy; but you can graduate this vibratory energy. By proper design and choice of wave lengths, you can arrange it so that you get, for instance, 5 percent in these electromagnetic waves and 95 percent in the current that goes through the earth. That is what I am doing. Or you can get, as these radio men, 95 percent in the energy of electromagnetic waves and only 5 percent in the energy of the current. . . . The apparatus is suitable for one or the other method. I am not producing radiation with my system; I am suppressing electromagnetic waves. . . .In my system, you should free yourself of the idea that there is radiation, that the energy is radiated. It is not radiated; it is conserved. . . ."

And this is the essence, confirming I'm right in all aspects. Magnetic field is the source of energy. Period. if Erfinder knew something else then he is wrong. He may found something about two frequencies or other but that's the secondary issue. Tesla explained how and why there is excess energy and why it need to be properly sent , not consumed in place ! by ANTENNA not loading the oscillator. Now, if you have a thousands of horsepower from 10W of energy stored in capacitor and you send it and capture in many many receivers -- you have overunity.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 10, 2017, 12:11:03 PM

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 10, 2017, 12:13:58 PM

"Professor Wein has formulated a beautiful theory about it, which I understand has netted him the Nobel prize. Wein's theories are admirable. The only trouble is that he has overlooked one very important fact. It is this: If the apparatus is properly designed and operated, there is no use for the quenched gap, for the oscillations are continuous anyway. The radio men who came after me had the problem before them of making a bell sound, and they immersed it in mercury. Now, you know mercury is heavy. When they struck their bell, the mercury did not permit it to vibrate long because it took away all the energy. I put my bell in a vacuum and make it vibrate for hours. I have designed circuits in connection with an enterprise in 1898 for transmission of energy which, once started, would vibrate three years, and even after that the oscillations could still be detected. Professor Wein's theory is very beautiful, but it really has no practical meaning. It will become useless as soon as the inefficient apparatus of the day, with antennae that radiate energy rapidly, [are] replaced by a scientifically designed oscillator which does not give out energy except when it gets up to a tremendous electromagnetic momentum."
----
Nikola Tesla

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 10, 2017, 04:38:29 PM

Hey Teets
Thanks for the quotes. I felt like I was reading them again thru new eyes. Do you think a zener could be used to make that sudden cap discharge Tesla was talking about?
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on February 10, 2017, 04:50:22 PM

Quote from: forest on February 10, 2017, 12:07:44 PM

And this is the essence, confirming I'm right in all aspects. ...................................................... many receivers -- you have overunity.

Forest/Tito/whatever

Amazing!!! Youre a halfwit fool!!!

I didn't realise that soooo many people in the Forum have the secret to OU and spend all day hinting about it. You must be a millionaire Like your Hero Tito and Kapanadze with all the prototypes you sold!! LOL Ohhhh that's right....you ARE Tito and that's why you need to gratify yourself constantly with verbal masturbations.

You TALK sooo much. TALKING does not equate to you being right. 8 years of talking and nothing...NOTHING to show for it other than your mental illness posting under 8 different names. Irrefutable proof and a schematic will eventually prove somebody right or wrong. Until then you are all just patting yourself on the back for many masturbations of the mouth. Go back have another crank.

Please seek help

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on February 10, 2017, 05:35:14 PM

Quote from: endlessoceans on February 10, 2017, 04:50:22 PM

Forest/Tito/whatever

Amazing!!! Youre a halfwit fool!!!

I didn't realise that soooo many people in the Forum have the secret to OU and spend all day hinting about it. You must be a millionaire Like your Hero Tito and Kapanadze with all the prototypes you sold!! LOL Ohhhh that's right....you ARE Tito and that's why you need to gratify yourself constantly with verbal masturbations.

You TALK sooo much. TALKING does not equate to you being right. 8 years of talking and nothing...NOTHING to show for it other than your mental illness posting under 8 different names. Irrefutable proof and a schematic will eventually prove somebody right or wrong. Until then you are all just patting yourself on the back for many masturbations of the mouth. Go back have another crank.

Please seek help

This post has me in stitches. lol . ha ha ha. lol

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on February 10, 2017, 08:09:29 PM

Tesla:

This means that you must have a momentum in the chain. You need to have a large self-induction in order to accomplish two things: first, the relatively low frequency, which will reduce the emission of electromagnetic waves in a relatively small size, and secondly, a large resonance effect. Unable to get

in the antenna, for example, once a large capacity and small self-induction. Most capacitance and inductance small - very poor type of circuit that can be created; it gives the same low resonance effect. That was the reason that in my experiments in Colorado energy was 1,000 times greater than in the present antennas.

He is saying that we must to do the inverse, high self-inductance and small capacitance, like in Ozone Patent, Capacitor is the coil bifilar, series charge and parallel discharge.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 10, 2017, 09:13:55 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on July 24, 2014, 01:18:15 PM
Counsel
I understood a little while ago when you made the statement of using sever thousand horsepower put into a condenser, you could take out of the condenser a million horsepower. I wondered if you got the same condition with this machine.
Tesla
Yes; I charged the condenser with 40,000 volts. When it was charged full, I discharged it suddenly, through a short circuit which gave me a very rapid rate of oscillation. Let us suppose that I had stored in the condenser 10 watts. Then, for such a wave there is a flux of energy of (4 x 10^4)^2, and this is multiplied by the frequency of 100,000. You see, it may go into thousands or millions of horsepower.
Counsel
What I wanted to get at was, did that depend upon the suddenness of the discharge?
Tesla
Yes. It is merely the electrical analogue of a pile driver or a hammer. You accumulate energy through a long distance and then you deliver it with a tremendous suddenness. The distance through which the mass moves is small--the pressure immense.
Source: Leland Anderson, NT on His Work With Alternating Currents, p. 68.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 10, 2017, 09:17:18 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 24, 2014, 10:09:45 PM

Well, consider a motor without a capacitor.
well, lately i tried to eliminate a cap from the system and it also works using just the twisted coil i taught.
And believe me we need a good spark gap controller if we really want the tesla technology. ;)

Take note: No inverter! promise!

EVERYTHING IS COIL AMAZING! 8) IT REALLY CAN LAST!!!

I SAID DON'T KILL THE MOMENTUM, LET THE STONE ICE ROLL :) 8)

ACTUALLY 10W OF POWER TO START IS TOO BIG. :-\

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE STARTING POINT OF MORRAY. ???

IN THE COLORADO SPRING NOTE, WHAT DO YOU NOTICE ABOUT TESLA'S COILS. :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 11, 2017, 12:45:17 AM

There's a device called a micrometer
We don't need the technical measurements
Just the ability to move in technical increments
Look at how those work
You are going to build basically the same thing
There's a hole
And a screw
Hmm if we turn the screw it gets closer
Or further away if we turn it the other way
Did you guys miss the memo?
Smaller the threads (higher thread count)
Gives you more precision.
There are different "tips" you can use.
Pointy tips give greater distance sparks
But are inconsistent in current amplitude
Balls are best or a ball to a concave piece.
Machine screws can be used and fitted to
The hole in the ball tip.
It's a simple spark gap frequency controller.
We've been using them for 200 years.
Just figure out how you want to insulate it
Like insulate the screw or the spark receiver
Or insulate the frame
There's a few different approaches to that part.

It's a simple thing

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 11, 2017, 01:08:21 AM

You have to understand how length and frequency are related
The wavelength and the physical length
Should be an exact multiple and divisor of one another
Take for instance a radio transmission antenna
Say you want to broadcast a signal at 103.3kHz
Your antenna would work best at 190.512 ft tall
There are other heights we can use but a full wavelength
Is 9525.6ft long
Taking 1/50th of this length, the signal becomes resonant
With the antenna. Radio stations also may use a 1/4, or 1/2
Wavelength
After a short time, an oscillatory signal will build up
The power levels can become so great that the entire antenna
Explodes!
That's a lesson we learned the hard way.
Now what we see at the base of the tower
Is an energy waster, also called a disruptor
It breaks the return resonant waveform to keep it from
Destroying everything
They consume a lot of electricity to run the energy waster

What we want to do is allow this effect to occur
Not disrupt it.

It happens naturally if all your lengths are right for the freq
You can fix your fudges by adjusting freq and adding impedance

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 11, 2017, 01:13:54 AM

Quote from: forest on February 10, 2017, 12:13:58 PM
"Professor Wein has formulated a beautiful theory about it, which I understand has netted him the Nobel prize. Wein's theories are admirable. The only trouble is that he has overlooked one very important fact. It is this: If the apparatus is properly designed and operated, there is no use for the quenched gap, for the oscillations are continuous anyway. The radio men who came after me had the problem before them of making a bell sound, and they immersed it in mercury. Now, you know mercury is heavy. When they struck their bell, the mercury did not permit it to vibrate long because it took away all the energy. I put my bell in a vacuum and make it vibrate for hours. I have designed circuits in connection with an enterprise in 1898 for transmission of energy which, once started, would vibrate three years, and even after that the oscillations could still be detected. Professor Wein's theory is very beautiful, but it really has no practical meaning. It will become useless as soon as the inefficient apparatus of the day, with antennae that radiate energy rapidly, [are] replaced by a scientifically designed oscillator which does not give out energy except when it gets up to a tremendous electromagnetic momentum."
----
Nikola Tesla

Was he theorizing semiconductor technology way back then?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on February 11, 2017, 07:00:32 AM

Hi Erfinder ;)
Looks like to me that cap is a translation mean, for helping us to transform the high voltage emf response of motor coils, to current. As you have stated again, if current is what we need, then opposition to voltage is the right and only way. And this is a great advice helping us to see that even if the circuit forms a series resonant circuit, where we have to focus is not at the frequency domain, but at its behavior in time. Its transient response is what we are interested in. This alone, opens the door for a deliberating choice of cap value depending only on what levels of cemf we apply it. Thanks for your insistence! Hope I get it from the right angle.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on February 11, 2017, 04:22:59 PM

@endlessoceans

Go cry somewhere else. Your verbal jerking off is no better then what you accuse others of.

@all

Oh boy............ life can be so simple.

First off, I don't think @Erfinder will like that you are equating Colorado to the Ozone Patent besides the fact that yes it does involve damped wave.

Then let's just convene on one thing. If the working primary is in series with the coils of the fan motor which are of high inductance, in order to ensure a constant steady speed of the fan motor, hence a constant speed of the rotary switch, hence a constant steady operation of the ozone generation, the capacitor cannot discharge if the fan motor commutator brushes are connected. So this means the fan motor commutator must have brushes that do not overlap so there is an open fan motor moment while the rotary short switch is closed. Tesla uses the laminations in his fan motor design to store and keep the fan motor turning while there is no connection. He has even stated that in other similar motor patents. Just look at old photos of the device.

This is also important because the capacitor needs the inductance of the fan motor coils to charge quickly. Since the working primary has zero inductance, the capacitor must be matched to the inductance of the fan motor.

Now from there in terms of how this works, I will not interject because this is all relative to how you see the basic working of electricity and I will not confuse people here with my own take. But I will provide this one way of looking at the circuit in simplistic terms.

You basically have a dc battery supply. The negative goes to the fan motors coil 1 then through the fan motor brushes and commutator to fan motor coil 2, then through the working primary then to the negative side of a DC capacitor. The positive goes to the positive side of the dc capacitor where a wire from that same terminal leads to a rotary switch that shorts the positive between the fan motor coil 2 and the working primary.

So here is one question. When the rotary switch is open and the fan motor brushes are closed, define where the positive and the negative of the battery source reach to inside that series loop. @Erfi you need to think about that as well here because this will show how you see the function.

Then from there, when the fan motor brushes open and the rotary switch closes, define again what is the interplay between the battery source positive and negative and the capacitor discharge. Here again your opinion will be defined by what you see and know about electricity.

In any case, there is only one object to all these interplays and that is the most complete CHANGE in polarity and strength at the working primary. Whatever you try, if it does not produce the most complete change, the coupling from the working primary to the secondary will not be forceful enough to produce ozone. I use the word "change" to denote that an extreme bias/rebias is active here that can only occur if the working primary changes from a positive state to a negative state so it can then change back to a complete positive state and so on. Maybe this will tickle some of you to think about how our electricity works besides this notion that it "flows".

Also remember that capacitors discharge on connection and inductors discharge on disconnection and that both are used in this patent. Also Tesla never equated the word "field" with anything airborne, he does not use the term "field collapse", he does not use the term "electron". He was the most honest and unpretentious inventor of his times and the use of the word "field" can be equated to using the term "magnetic presence" or "magnetic influence" without defining it in terms of an "exterior presence" because he knew in all honesty that such was never confirmed nor can be.

@Erfi, I get it but maybe one day you will come around and see this from a purely objective stance, an honest stance where effects are described to the limits of their merit and not to the unlimits of our learned or indoctrinated imagination where there is this desperate need to be right at any cost.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on February 11, 2017, 06:17:46 PM

Quote from: wattsup on February 11, 2017, 04:22:59 PM
@endlessoceans

Go cry somewhere else. Your verbal jerking off is no better then what you accuse others of.

@all

Oh boy............ life can be so simple.

wattsup

Nawwww....poor baby. Did it strike a little chord with you? There there!! I understand you must be upset that your beloved yellow buffoon Trump is not making America great again but that has nothing to do with energy. LOL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on February 12, 2017, 09:59:53 AM

@endlessoceans

You are just insignificant.

@Erfinder

I gave you the benefit of the doubt but you just revert back to your same "you think you know what I think" crap but two can play at your little game.

YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK ABOUT HOW YOU THINK. BLAH BLAH BLAH.

You are just as clueless as the next guy.

Lucky that there are 100s of times more people who read this thread then who post so my message is out there while your message is still looking at you in the mirror, wondering "what you think about what you think your are thinking". So work it out yourself.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dieter on February 12, 2017, 10:27:05 AM

Wattsup, don't waste your energy in trying to convince the unconvincebles (by philosophy).

Instead focus on your research progress and I would suggest to add a link to all of your postings that points to a short, clear explanation of what this is about, in tech terms. The reason why I don't understand what you are talking about is because I refuse to read trough all the usual hickhack fights.

For all those, not knowing how to pronounce "Erfinder" (eg. Luc), it's Air-feen-der", as a sidenote.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on February 12, 2017, 11:34:10 AM

@Erfinder Can you atleast show some diagram or circuit on your application with the Tesla super charger circuit which is present on his every patent with high frequency devices.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on February 12, 2017, 11:44:13 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on February 12, 2017, 11:37:20 AM

Sure!

Please keep in mind....you cannot perfect perfection. That might be one of the reasons why all you have are variations on the same theme over and over and over and over....Try not to want any more than everything that this figure discloses.......

What I mean is your own application using that Tesla Charging/ Choking coils. Choking coils= Charging coils + Amp limiting coil..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stupify12 on February 12, 2017, 11:55:23 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on February 12, 2017, 11:49:39 AM

Lets not play this game! I gave you exactly what you asked for! I then suggested that you cannot perfect perfection, I am using what I gave you! Why is it so damn hard to accept. Am I restricted to a commutated motor? Am I restricted to a mechanical circuit controller? Are you? If you comprehend what is being suggested in the document, you can do whatever you want and still be right where Tesla wants you, where he to want anything of you.....

Yeah lets not play anymore. I know exactly what u mean on the picture you have shown, its not limited on commutator or rotating mercury. It is simple and easy to comprehend. I have known the working principle on that picture or on any patent 4 years ago. Glad to hear that someone is on the right path. It is indeed perfection.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: dieter on February 12, 2017, 12:10:14 PM

ER-finder, I'm sorry for assuming your german name is pronounced in a german way, but you work in a hospital and help the injured to find the Emergency Room.
I have no fucking clue what this fucking thread is fucking about, because it fucking is fucking unreadable due to your fucking foul language and all the fucking fights.

Who's right, technically, who gives a shit if the whole thing is just bad vibes.

Therefor, for your kind of addressing things, selcome on my fucking ignore list.
I hope this fits your tongue.

btw. I am swiss.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 12, 2017, 12:50:00 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on February 12, 2017, 11:37:20 AM

Sure!

Please keep in mind....you cannot perfect perfection. That might be one of the reasons why all you have are variations on the same theme over and over and over and over....Try not to want any more than everything that this figure discloses.......

Dear Erfinder.

How would you draw this circuit diagrammatically rather than pictorially?

I see.... Two coils of high inductance periodically connected in series to a third coil of high inductance ( Armature ) then also in series with a low inductance transformer primary finally in series with a capacitor.

Now the Armature is " dynamic " is this the " Loose " third coil that Tesla refers to ?

Or am I " barking up the wrong tree " ?

Cheers Graham.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: partzman on February 12, 2017, 03:23:29 PM

Here is my interpretation of Tesla's patent #568,177 as shown with an LtSpice IV simulation.

Basically, the motor's stator inductance 'D' supplies energy to maintain resonance of the series inductor 'M' and capacitor 'L' via the circuit-controller 'H'. Realistically, the stator also has an amount of self capacitance due to the adjacent windings which is the transfer medium for the energy exchange.

In order to make the sim, many assumptions have been made which may or may not be accurate to the mechanical arrangement of the patent. The point is to demonstrate how the device may possibly operate as Tesla intended.

In the sim, L1 is the stator inductance with C3 being the self capacitance. Yes it should be connected in parallel but I chose to show as seen for simplicity and the operation is only slightly affected. L2 is 'M' and C2 is 'L'. M1 is 'H', L3 is 'N' and C2 is 'P'.

The frequency of 'M' is 83.33kHz with an 83.3% duty cycle. IOW, the motor 'C' is disconnected for 16.6% of the time. The high voltage resonance frequency is 2x or 166.66kHz from the values I chose to use.

The plot waveforms show the complete operation after stabilization is reached along with plot math measurements. One might note that the current in L1 is constant indicating that the device basically operates similar to a current fed inverter with an amount of energy taken from L1 (stator) to maintain resonance in the L2/C1 tank circuit which in turn supplies the current necessary to maintain resonance in the high voltage tank L3/C2.

pm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on February 12, 2017, 04:41:05 PM

Quote from: wattsup on February 12, 2017, 09:59:53 AM
@endlessoceans

You are just insignificant.

wattsup

LOL You are still wailing like a baby wattsup. The following is an adult dialogue, so I'm pretty sure it will be wasted on you....but here goes anyway. Huh...hilarious. My initial post didn't even address you directly and yet you took incredible exception to it. What I find scientifically accurate is that TRUTH spoken always impacts those hiding in dark corners much like water flooding down burrows washes out the rats.

Are you upset because you were quietly masturbating while looking at a wishful schematic of Kapanadze when my post found you??!

I was talking to Tito and his 8 other names he uses here and yet he must be your hero also. Wattsup you cant even comprehend the Tesla patent, what hope of understanding simple logic. Go back to your silly delusions and a quiet crank

Goodbye

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2017, 11:09:40 PM

Hi everyone :)

i've learned a lot lately, and that is fucking and fucking and shitting and shitting from the fucker masters ;D joke

I think we need to change the title of this thread into "FUCKING AMPLIFICATION" ;D

oh boy i felt some orgasmic energy :o ;D

is this the erectional disturbances of premature ejaculation? ;D wow.

Bigtit ;D joke :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2017, 11:17:11 PM

Quote from: endlessoceans on February 12, 2017, 04:41:05 PM

LOL You are still wailing like a baby wattsup. The following is an adult dialogue, so I'm pretty sure it will be wasted on you....but here goes anyway. Huh...hilarious. My initial post didn't even address you directly and yet you took incredible exception to it. What I find scientifically accurate is that TRUTH spoken always impacts those hiding in dark corners much like water flooding down burrows washes out the rats.

Are you upset because you were quietly masturbating while looking at a wishful schematic of Kapanadze when my post found you??!

I was talking to Tito and his 8 other names he uses here and yet he must be your hero also. Wattsup you cant even comprehend the Tesla patent, what hope of understanding simple logic. Go back to your silly delusions and a quiet crank

Goodbye

Hi endlessfuckers ;D

What is your problem or you are the problem. ;D
im doing nothing to you and you are always attacking me. i'm not anyone ok! i'm unique and not like you.

Bigtit ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2017, 11:26:47 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on February 12, 2017, 10:26:01 AM
Shove your benefit of the doubt up your ass, savvy!

And this from an oblivious ass hat still trying to figure out the difference between shit and dog food.

Ah....there it is.... "your message", finally letting the 100s reading this know what your real motive for being here is.... so you are here to get sympathy votes.....need a boost in confidence... You are a pathetic ass hat.... Fuck your message! I refer people to "A message" from "A true genius"! Who in the fuck are you! Your message?!?! I am not here for ratings! I am not into cheerleaders and groupies, not here to pretend I have something to teach, I leave all that to you stupid bastards who think you can. I could give two shits if anyone reads what I post. I wipe my ass with your negative perspective of me, feels good, gets the job done, and when the task is complete, you are covered in shit. The subject is Energy Amplification, brought to you by true genius! The subject is not "wattsup's message" Your opinion means shit, and your perspective leads folk away from the documents they need to study themselves...deal with that.

Hey sir
Why are you like that?
If you know a lot why don't you just give it in a good and right conduct manner? ???
and not fucking and shitting others?. joke ;D

Yours truly,
fuckerfinders Bigtit ;D joke.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 12, 2017, 11:32:17 PM

Is this the way of talking you want? :-\

soooo sad :( :( :( :(

otits :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 12, 2017, 11:52:10 PM

Primary coil with few turns, any source a/c, pulsed dc

Secondary Coil with many turns, metal plate on each end of coil
Plates facing each other forming an hv capacitor. (Like Leyden jar)

== Ozone

The fan is convenient, a resonant circuit makes it more efficient
But the "ozone machine" itself, is a simple 2 part device
Transformer + Metal plate capacitor
And is not at all relevant.
Aside from respiratory ailments from long term exposure
And a funny smell that reminds you of rain,
The only purpose of the ozone maker was to demonstrate
the power coming from the driver circuit.
Forget the ozone maker, don't worry about the fan
Look at the driver and the capacitance of the primary.
Forget the secondary and realize that can be any inductive load.
The input signal has to be resonant with the capacitance of the primary first
Then match the load resonance by changing impedance and capacitance to
bring it into resonance with the (already resonating) primary coil.

You guys are making this much more than it is.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2017, 12:24:43 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on February 10, 2017, 04:38:29 PM
Hey Teets
Thanks for the quotes. I felt like I was reading them again thru new eyes. Do you think a zener could be used to make that sudden cap discharge Tesla was talking about?
Bob

I think zener is not needed.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 13, 2017, 08:46:26 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 13, 2017, 12:24:43 AM

I think zener is not needed.

Thanks bro. Have a good day.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 13, 2017, 03:18:44 PM

There are also some interesting points about dc motor. How short must be break to let the motor still work ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on February 13, 2017, 04:06:09 PM

Quote from: forest on February 13, 2017, 03:18:44 PM
There are also some interesting points about dc motor. How short must be break to let the motor still work ?

From the drawing it appears the cap is pretty large. So the motor will continue to be powered until the cap gets maybe half way or more filled. So the length of time the motor can run with the shorting commutator open is going to be determined by the size of the cap. And of course the inertia of the motor should keep it going even for a while after the cap is charged.

Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 13, 2017, 04:53:38 PM

Quote from: citfta on February 13, 2017, 04:06:09 PM
From the drawing it appears the cap is pretty large. So the motor will continue to be powered until the cap gets maybe half way or more filled. So the length of time the motor can run with the shorting commutator open is going to be determined by the size of the cap. And of course the inertia of the motor should keep it going even for a while after the cap is charged.

Carroll

Well that is if the cap happens to be depleted by the time the next switch closing happens. I dont know if the primary oscillation lasts as long as the off time of the switch.

If it does last as long, the cap could be charged one way or the other depending on the oscillation phase at cut off.

But im probably wrong, and will hear about it soon.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on February 13, 2017, 08:17:52 PM

Quote from: webby1 on February 13, 2017, 06:53:36 PM
Just using my take on the modality of things.

A few questions.

Don't even think about the output to the Ozone system,, it does not matter for these questions.

If the cap is charged and then the interrupter closes,, what happens?

If the interrupter opens prior to the cap being fully discharged, what happens?

When the motor is provided with the large voltage spike from the coil\cap,, what happens?

After the short moment of acceleration of the rotor in the motor,, what happens?

Where is that generated voltage and current sent?

If the interrupter now closes,, what happens?

webby, what makes you think the motor is going to be provided with a large voltage spike from the coil/cap?

Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: shylo on February 14, 2017, 04:12:32 AM

Nobody talks about what happens to the input A,B.
The motor is constantly spiking the supply because the interupter cuts it off from the supply. The windings of the motor have to get rid of their built up energy somewhere no?
The faster the make breaks ,the more spikes.
artv

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 14, 2017, 09:15:40 AM

Imho capacitor should be connected to motor coils only for a very very short period of time. Series resonance is absurd! With high inductance big capacitor the frequency is very low so the transfer of energy is tiny. it is just enough to refurbish the voltage on capacitor.Tesla said it can vibrate for hours when disconnected, so only a little energy is lost in parallel resonant circuit. Here is the confirmation that output is not loaded at all.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 14, 2017, 12:52:06 PM

Quote from: webby1 on February 13, 2017, 11:34:25 AM
I agree that the Ozone piece,, that is the coil and parallel plates,, are just a demonstration of the use of the energy being manifested.

The motor and fan are multitasking however.

As the air is converted its resistance goes down,, blow the converted air out and the resistance between the plates goes back up allowing for a higher voltage to be placed upon the plates, so the fan helps :)

The motor acts as the source to charge the cap as well as the device that stops the current flow through the coil and the high voltage spike that hits the motor is partially reflected back into the cap.

The cap and coil are more of a pulse relationship and the cap does not need to be fully discharged either,, you could have several pulses before recharging the cap if so desired,, so the frequency of a pulse is what?

The frequency of the motor and the interrupter are logistical parts that are chosen to meet the needs of the output.

Think about the Ozone part only taking the output from the HV spike that happens when the current flow is interrupted.

The fan is just a blade attached to the shaft of the interuptor motor.
It was convenient to place it here. Yes it helps stabilize impedance between plates.
As well as move the separated anions and cations out into the room, before they anihilate each other.
All in all the fan reduces losses in the Ozone part.
The HV side of the circuit is not electrically connected to the oscillator circuit.
You can replace the Ozone maker with any of Tesla designs, the coil transmitter, or literally any of his devices. You don't need a secondary for the primary to oscillate.
The only thing the secondary does to the entire circuit is add a slight impedance in the form of
An inductive reactance through the secondary transformer windings.
An adjustment of the spacing between plates of the Ozone part, brings the secondary
Into resonance with the oscillator circuit.
Now, this was designed with the frequency in mind, so the Ozone plates are already spaced
appropriately. The only adjustment needed to get this working, was a variable resistance
through the interuptor motor to controls its' speed.

If you notice, the oscillator is exactly like any of his others. Except that here: an adjustable
Spark gap (threaded screw type) is replaced by the rotary interuptor.
Which is the primary function of the motor.
To spin the rotary spark gap interuptor
This is not a physical contact commutator like we use today.
It is a rotary spark gap. Gap distance remains constant, and the time variable
Is controlled by the RPM. This gives a consistent voltage, current, and frequency.
Voltage is controlled by the gap distance, just as before.
Current is controlled by the time the discharge points are within range to spark.
By necessity, the parallel Leyden jars have more capacitance than needed to provide
Constant current throughout the discharge.
If you scope the current through the discharge you notice it is a square wave
Vs the triangle wave presented by a stationary spark gap.
That's not important to our discussion, except to say that the current is consistent
During the "on time" of the primary winding.
As well as during the "off time" when the Leyden jars discharge.

Another important thing, which is discussed in the context, but not noticeable
In the drawing: the commutator in the motor is NOT a rotary disruptor but an actual
a/c commutator that drives the motor. Even though they both look the same in the drawing.
One is a commutator, one is a rotary spark gap.
These were generally part of the same device back in that day
Simply because you needed a motor to rotate the spark gap.
See image below

The parallel Leyden jars can be replaced by the capacitance of a Tesla coil
As shown in the second drawing in the patent. Also the motor that drives the inductance,
And the rotary interuptor can be simplified to a single coil pulse motor. As also shown.

All in all the primary oscillator circuit is an resonant LC tank.
Wherein: frequency = 1/ (sqrt) [LC]
L is the inductance of the motor and primary coil in series
C is the capacitance of the Leyden Jars or the parallel coil capacitance
If a coil is used instead of the capacitors.

n/m the b.s. and theory people try to add into this.
Tesla told us exactly how this works.
It's as simple as his original oscillator, just uses more complex parts.

Think of the Ozone part as being an interchangeable component
Every one of his components needs an oscillator
The oscillator works with any of his components
Almost All of his patents are the same
Oscillator + component
Learn how to separate these in your mind.
The oscillator patent works as a stand alone oscillator
It's his 'driver circuit'
Once you learn these oscillators, everything you see Tesla connect
to a secondary winding - can be replicated with ease.

Here's an old rotary interuptor with motor attached

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 14, 2017, 01:36:51 PM

Dear sm0ky2.

I have to disagree.

A " Spark gap " suggests high voltage, in Tesla's patent it's plainly a rotary switch, connecting/disconnecting the series/parallel L/C tank circuits.

Cheers Graham.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on February 14, 2017, 08:15:14 PM

@ll

What does mean those words.

Ozone Patent.
Quote:
"If air be forced between the plates P during this discharge, the effectiveness of the apparatus is increased and ozone is generated in large quantities"...

Could be, that him is talking about a Motor-generator, that increased its effectiveness with load. And the Next:..
"Continued production of ozone in unlimited amount".

I just asking!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 15, 2017, 02:18:48 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on February 14, 2017, 08:15:14 PM
@ll

What does mean those words.

Ozone Patent.
Quote:
"If air be forced between the plates P during this discharge, the effectiveness of the apparatus is increased and ozone is generated in large quantities"...

Could be, that him is talking about a Motor-generator, that increased its effectiveness with load. And the Next:..
"Continued production of ozone in unlimited amount".

I just asking!

That describes the action of the fan. And to prevent from repeating
Myself, I will direct you to my posts above where I talk about that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 15, 2017, 02:19:33 AM

Quote from: Grumage on February 14, 2017, 01:36:51 PM
Dear sm0ky2.

I have to disagree.

A " Spark gap " suggests high voltage, in Tesla's patent it's plainly a rotary switch, connecting/disconnecting the series/parallel L/C tank circuits.

Cheers Graham.

You are disagreeing with Tesla, not me. But do as you please

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 15, 2017, 10:15:44 AM

The low-voltage side of any Tesla oscillator
Is controlled by a spark gap.
They didn't have transistors back then.
There were vacuum tube diodes and triodes
Which Tesla did experiment with, but for the most part
He preferred to use a spark gap for precise control
Over the frequency.

The driver circuit for the Tesla coil is controlled in the same way
A spark jumps across the primary to excite the hv coil
They are all the same oscillator

Tesla references his oscillator patent IN the first paragraph
Of the Ozone patent.
If you look at that patent (#462418) you will find the
Following terminology:
"This generator I connect up with a condenser or conductor
of some capacity and discharge the accumulated electrical energy
disruptively through an air-space...."

Any questions?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on February 15, 2017, 10:52:55 AM

Now that you have gotten this lets look at the improvement Tesla did to the primary source.

1:) This is the "to be" discharged into transformer.

2:) The whole circuit.

3:) the magnetic controlled variable interrupter

4:) the effect of this kind of discharge after transformatio

Reference: http://tfcbooks.com/tesla/1892-02-03.htm (http://tfcbooks.com/tesla/1892-02-03.htm)

The first picture is a no core version. The form is a wooden dowel that is supported by additional structure in the oil bath wood case. Tesla said it should be shielded by metal but for his purposes of testing the extremes of this setup he didn't use it in lab.

The whole circuit is shown here in picture 2. The transformer is on the right after the magnetic variable spaced spark gap. This spark gap is a special beast. Sorta like a transistor but no power limits. The magnetic crossing filters the discharges or combs the plasma as it crosses the gap. This makes the electrode last longer on the transformer side of the gap. You could think of it as an infinite amount of division in the plasma after passing through the magnetic field flowing across the gap towards the discharge collector electrode. Instead of one massive conduction happening the conduction gets interrupted a vast amount of time. This causes the target electrode to get massive amount of hits in time instead of all at once discharge. You could think of it as a string of pearls flowing towards the target electrode. This would cause a minute variance in the current that once fed into a resonant system would build huge movements of current. In this case the current is being transformed into unbelievable voltages from an ordinary unit by the transformer and hence the need for an oil bath around that transformer. This is to keep it from producing OZONE and destroying the transformer coils.

The transformer should be designed with a bifilar coil in the primary discharge path. This is to allow the reduced cemf response to NOT interfere with the forward EMF of the discharge. Dumping high current low voltage discharges, low in the sense of 1v-2kv (Tesla was used to working with millions of volts so that was low to him, into a regular solenoid wouldn't work because of the self inductance of that solenoid. It has to be a Heavy Bifilar coil in order for this to work and a high voltage winding as the secondary to transform the discharge into a high voltage impulse.

You have to understand that this is leading into a plasma physics area and the movement of plasma around a high voltage source. This is just to learn how to attract the plasma to the system. Figuring out what to do with that higher density of plasma around this system is the key. What effects can a higher density of plasma around a magnetic device do? Does it make the effects of a magnetic system become enhanced like using an iron core does with magnetism?

We know that plasma has magnetic channeling properties. We have proven this already visually and experimentally in the lab. What effect would enhancing the plasma field around magnetic devices do? Would it magnify it's output? Could this high density plasma field be used as a fluid and used in the same methods to gain advantage?? Is this what Tesla was making impulses into? The medium of the density of plasma?

As a side note the magnetic filter across the gap has a singular direction or polarized flow. This one component could be responsible to making the discharges true impulses of one direction with no reversal of the gap. so this means one coil end will always be positive or negative in the output?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 15, 2017, 01:53:52 PM

"Air gap" inherently contains an impedance that does
Not exist in a direct contact commutator.

"What does it matter?"

Just about everything

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: jbignes5 on February 15, 2017, 02:15:45 PM

I Agree. The air gap does present a connection to the environment. If I am right and we condense plasma across the gap then the plasma has to come from around us and is still connected to the environment. The impedance is the rate of condensing across the gap of the excited plasma with the potential difference between the two electrodes driving the condensing rate as well. The source of the plasma is the Sun we take advantage of 24/7.
Layers upon layers of plasma density surround our planet each layer having a certain conductivity of the Ionospheres potential (+365kv).
In effect we have a plasma TV going on around our planet. With the ionosphere being the back light at night and day. This explains the no stars seen by humans around our planet. The light being merely electromagnetic in nature. Our eyes are not designed to see light in that way.

So yes the Gap is important but not entirely necessary as per Tesla. The design changes a bit using 3 caps across a coil or 2 caps and an extra coil through a primary coil. I have to link to the Colorado notes for that design.

So the break here is a rotary break and to the left of the main cap and primary coil.

Second picture is with the extra coil

Third picture is an original exciter circuit with spark gap as interrupter.

The big difference is the wording BREAK or BR. Device

Coincidentally does the 3 cap design look familiar? Reminds me of the Turkey demo...

Now although these used caps Tesla was working on one terminal bifilar coils as inductive caps that he could scoop off energy through. Inductively. In the Colorado notes he shows this, picture 4 shown below.

The 5th picture below is the coil or extra coil he talks about in the Notes on entry July 16, 1899.

Reference: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/coloradonotes04.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 15, 2017, 09:15:14 PM

I wonder what dc voltage system was used around the time of the patent, like what level of input voltage was available for city lighting back then?

Just thinking about the primary as shown and what size cap and voltage the cap would generally charge to. Seems like some high voltage to start with and then higher in the cap before switch closing, then higher voltage out of the secondary to produce ozone.

Or is it even necessary to go HV to start messing with this? Just wondering if a heavy pri of 5 or so turns with a cap might oscillate longer than expected. I have some high strand number 4awg, or would we be looking at litz preferably? Then a cap. Probably go for some hv caps online of a few diff values.

Dunno. Just thinkin on it some

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 15, 2017, 10:30:07 PM

I did a sim of an LRC made up of 100uh, 1uf and a 10uohm resistance. Charging up the inductor for 1ms with 5v, the oscillation started at 5.8v, 16khz.
It took 39sec to ring down to 1v. Just an experiment in resistive loss in this case. The LC would have to have very low resistance to ring like that. The cap, the pri, the connections. So to get a setup to ring for hours would mean what? Something there assisting that longevity?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 16, 2017, 03:17:10 AM

Quote from: webby1 on February 15, 2017, 02:05:37 PM
You need to qualify that by stating that to "YOU",,

it does not matter at all to me.

And you are discussing this topic for what?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 16, 2017, 04:20:58 AM

@jb

Yes exactly
Coils have a capacitance and therefore can replace capacitors
But their inductance makes them twice as powerful as a
capacitor of the same value.

@ mags
"Hv" is a matter of perspective
Tesla could just as easily convert 10 V into 1 million
As he could 20v into 50

It's all a matter of the # of turns in the transformer

What is important is the range of distance the primary
voltage will spark, and the range of frequencies that
allows us to adjust through with the variable spark gap
within this range.

The higher the voltage of the primary, the wider the bandwidth
of frequencies we can access.

The reason Tesla pushed the limits of voltage, was to push the
Limits of Frequency.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 16, 2017, 04:51:39 AM

What happens when we approach the plank length
With our 'wavelength'?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 16, 2017, 06:45:18 AM

f = 1 / 2(pi)[(sqrt)(LC)]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 16, 2017, 09:51:10 PM

I'm by no means saying "we have to use a spark gap"
I was merely pointing out that Tesla explicitly used them.

Today we have advanced semiconductor technology
We can switch almost as fast and with more consistency

Resonance does not care where the impedance, capacitance,
and inductance comes from.
Like comparing all the different musical instruments in the world
With a single common factor.

I would place teslas circuits in the same group as all of those instruments.
He intentionally caused constructive interference.

Where as every circuit we build today is designed with the intention
of NOT causing it. Or worse, causing Destructive interference.

Think about the bridge that a slight breeze over a long time
Can rip into pieces

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on February 17, 2017, 11:55:31 AM

Webby,

A well designed and operating properly DC motor does NOT have a lot of arcing and sparking at the brushes. And the brushes most of the time last for years in an industrial environment where these motors run sometimes every day all day long.

Arcing and sparking at the brushes indicate the motor armature has a problem or the motor does not have the brushes set up properly in the neutral zone like they are supposed to be. Now of course with the little common universal vacuum cleaner or drill motor it just isn't cost effective to spend time and money adjusting them for best performance even if they did have that capability which most of them don't.

Did you ever figure out why the capacitor and transformer could not send a spike to the motor on the Tesla patent?

Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on February 17, 2017, 05:34:46 PM

Webby,

Which part of the circuit has the most inductance?

Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on February 17, 2017, 08:16:36 PM

Yes. So which is going to produce the greater kickback or spike?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2017, 05:08:40 AM

Quote from: sm0ky2 on February 15, 2017, 10:15:44 AM

"This generator I connect up with a condenser or conductor
of some capacity and discharge the accumulated electrical energy
disruptively through an air-space...."

Any questions?

How do you think He accumulated electrical energy? ;) ::) 8)

I am challenging everyone to participate to answer this question to help everyone.
Cause i believe that this is the missing link about the truth. :)
included schematic would be more appreciated. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on February 18, 2017, 08:02:09 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2017, 05:08:40 AM

How do you think He accumulated electrical energy? ;) ::) 8)

I am challenging everyone to participate to answer this question to help everyone.
Cause i believe that this is the missing link about the truth. :)
included schematic would be more appreciated. ;)

I see no missing link in the statement you quoted. It is a very clear statement. Maybe you should go back to the basics and start over. You have obviously missed something about how the basic components of electricity work. Or is your problem a language problem? Don't you know that condenser is another word for capacitor?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 18, 2017, 12:22:20 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on February 18, 2017, 07:13:33 AM

Are you among those who will continue to take Tito serious after this post?

Why is he asking you to answer a question that was clearly answered in the quote!!!! (Not a question...)

Quote:

"This generator I connect up with a condenser or conductor of some capacity and discharge the accumulated electrical energy disruptively through an air-space...."
End quote.

So many listening to this guy.....incredible....

Ok, so the cap can be either a condenser(cap) 'OR' bifi coil. If either can be used, why is it important to note this?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 18, 2017, 12:26:45 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 18, 2017, 05:08:40 AM
Quote

Quote from: sm0ky2 on February 15, 2017, 04:15:44 PM (http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg500088/#msg500088)

"This generator I connect up with a condenser or conductor
of some capacity and discharge the accumulated electrical energy
disruptively through an air-space...."

Any questions?

How do you think He accumulated electrical energy? ;) ::) 8)

I am challenging everyone to participate to answer this question to help everyone.
Cause i believe that this is the missing link about the truth. :)
included schematic would be more appreciated. ;)

For me, and I'm going to use very simple terms here, Tito's basic setup consists of using an antenna coil to accumulate charge, which goes into a cap, which is discharged into an open secondary. But for me, one of the keys to this working is acknowledging the importance of Lenz' law as the cap's "push" discharge is dumped into the secondary. But Lenz' law tells us that with every "push" (if you like) discharge introduced into an inductor, there's also a corresponding opposite "pull" of charge into the inductor. A third coil, basically a mirror reflection of the first, is needed to allow this "pull" action to enter into the secondary.

When you're pulsing a cap, a charge is steadily being introduced to one side, and the resulting imbalance of charge between the two terminals stresses the dielectric between the cap's terminals. The dielectric (i.e., ambient/aether) responds to this imbalance and supplies a charge to the other side of the cap. Again, the way I see it, it's a question of charge from one antenna coil building up in the cap until it discharges (push), which in turn causes its mirror image coil to draw in charge (pull) and discharge (push), and the ping-pong (remember that one?) action continues.

When I look at Tesla's orthogonal motors (even the motor in the ozone patent) I see the same push-pull action going on in the way the stator coils are linked. For me, Tesla's genius is hidden right there in plain sight in the simplicity of the motor's design. The genius of this design and the importance of working with Lenz' law have been purposefully erased from our consciousness. Lenz' law is our friend, and until we embrace that, I don't think we're going to get anywhere.

Maybe I'm naïve, but I think all we need here is coils, diodes and caps to get a small scale version running.

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on February 18, 2017, 02:04:35 PM

https://teslaresearch.jimdo.com/articles-interviews/electrical-oscillators-by-nikola-tesla-electrical-experimenter-july-1919-1/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 18, 2017, 02:53:07 PM

Just did a simple test with 6 turns of 4awg around a 4in pvc pipe. Charged up a 4.7uf 100v cap. Blue dip cap

I charged the cap to 30v and discharged it to the coil with a scope on the coil. So far not much. So is the problem with the cap used? Is it necessary to have a bifi coil cap instead? Would it be of an advantage to integrate the pri with the bifi inductively to help keep the oscillation going longer. Im going to try a few more things with this to see what I can come up with on those terms. I suppose the bifi cap would be open ended to act as a cap only, but if it is wound as a coil, induction could play a part in how the open ended bifi reacts.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 18, 2017, 03:42:45 PM

In the Ozone Paten ( pg 530 of this thread)
Negative side of the input (dc power source)
Goes through the motor windings, the commutator
And grounded to the motor case. Turns the motor
As well as through the primary coil to the - side of
The capacitor
+ side of capacitor is constantly being charged by the
dc power source.
Once the capacitor reaches the potential to arc across the
adjustable spark gap on the rotating disk attached to the
motor shaft, it discharges through the primary coil. There
is no effective feedback through the motor back to the source
because the potential exists between the capacitor plates

The frequency is generally 2x that of the motor rpm, due to
the physical construction. Controlled by a variable resistance.
The two contact points on the disk allow for a contact twice per
rotation. If more is required, multiple arc paths can be used in the disk.
Drawing is simplified.

The secondary coil bears little in the primary in terms of operating
frequency. The resonance that is set up in the LC primary tank overpowers
the minuscule current drawn off through the secondary induction.
And the high potentials makes it so the path of least resistance is through
the ionization of atoms and molecules in the space between the plates of the
Ozone Maker. This is what creates the Ozone, some of the ionized O(-) atoms
have enough energy to bond into groups of 3 or more instead of the low energy
O2 we are used to at human altitudes.
Current can't go back through the transformer
Not quite a diode, but an inhibiting resistance path.
Whatever charge is left on the plates when the field collapse occurs in the inductor
Is lost.
The oscillating primary tank in this circuit could probably drive several devices
before you had any noticeable impact on the tank.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 18, 2017, 03:51:20 PM

You could say that the primary and the capacitor are in series with
Each other (shorted out across the spark gap)
And both of these are in parallel to the motor.
Motor drives the spark gap and facilitates the 'shorting'.

The LC tank could operate on its own by using just a spark gap
Instead of the motor.

The secondary is irrelevant until you get the primary down to perfection.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 18, 2017, 05:26:03 PM

Quote from: sm0ky2 on February 18, 2017, 03:51:20 PM
You could say that the primary and the capacitor are in series with
Each other (shorted out across the spark gap)
And both of these are in parallel to the motor.
Motor drives the spark gap and facilitates the 'shorting'.

The LC tank could operate on its own by using just a spark gap
Instead of the motor.

The secondary is irrelevant until you get the primary down to perfection.

I see it as B input lead as connected to in of the D stator coil, then out of the D coil to the motor brush, through the armature, then in to the F stator winding and out of F to the G brush of the H controller. One side of the primary also is connected to the G brush, where the other side of the primary is in series with the cap and the other side of the cap is connected to the K brush of the H controller, and also the power input A is connected to K.

So all the motor windings are in series, and are not connected to power directly from the input until the H controller connects brushes G and K, and at the same time H is making that connection, the primary and cap are in parallel to do their thing.

So this is very much like the Igniter pat where as the motor here is the large inductor there. Or does the motor help us any compared to the large inductor of the igniter circuit?

When the H controller is connecting brushes G and K, the motor is powered by the DC input and the fields in the motor build. Then when the H controller disconnects, the motors field collapse charges the cap through the primary. Then when H connects again, the cap is discharged into the primary, oscillation I suppose, and the motor once again gets power from the input and repeat.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: allcanadian on February 18, 2017, 06:22:28 PM

@Tito

QuoteHow do you think He accumulated electrical energy? [/size]I am challenging everyone to participate to answer this question to help everyone.

In my opinion this is the most relevant comment posted here in a very long time. One can go off on any number of tangents or subjects however the fact remains that if someone cannot grasp the concept of accumulation versus dissipation then they will never truly understand how any FE devices work. As well once the basic concept is understood it should become obvious that it can be applied in any number of ways to almost anything. At this point I will introduce a new concept... Perception creates and transcends reality. That is if we change our perception of what we think is possible we can change the reality of what is possible.

Did you know I have the miraculous ability to cause Heat to fall to the floor then rise back up when most all others believe Heat always rises?. It is an extremely complex and mind boggling procedure but it can be done. First you stretch out your arm then drop a sodium acetate hand warmer onto the floor which causes it to activate and start generating heat... congratulations you have done the impossible. Heat has fallen as Latent or "hidden" heat which is cold and then transformed into sensible heat which is hot causing the hot air to rise. We could speculate that hot and cold electrical currents work in a similar manner whereby the energy in a current may be latent within the flow of free electrons we call a current.

I can also cause heat to contract and fall rather than expand and rise... a little trick I learned from victor schauberger. I believe Victor was correct when he said our civilization is based on the primitive concepts of consumption and the dissipation of energy as heat versus growth and the accumulation of energy without heat. Our understanding is so completely backwards that some people still think cutting down entire forests of trees and burning them for energy represents growth. Oh the humanity.

A tree can grow without generating heat, a tree can accumulate water and minerals and energy in itself without generating heat. A tree accumulates energy in itself to grow and as it grows it accumulates more and more energy. It is interesting to note most FE devices have these same qualities and the greater the load the greater the power generation with respect to the load. It may be that most are barking up the wrong tree and they should spend more time studying nature.

AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 18, 2017, 11:43:41 PM

Circuitwise the motor is just seen as an inductance
(Not much reactance since it only powers a small fan)
So in that sense it's just like the coil
The dc motor is always powered, so is the + of the cap
It doesn't discharge through the primary except when it sparks.

Inductance through the primary is what needs to be
considered in the LC tank.
The inductance through the motor that charges the cap
Is less important to the scheme of things.
What it affects is the capacitor charging time.
Not the resonance of the tank.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on February 19, 2017, 02:40:44 AM

Q factor

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Zephir on February 19, 2017, 04:28:20 AM

Quote from: allcanadian on February 18, 2017, 06:22:28 PMif someone cannot grasp the concept of accumulation versus dissipation then they will never truly understand how any FE devices work

In my theory (http://overunity.com/15124/simplest-theory-of-overunity-devices-possible/) overunity occurs during negentropic metastable phenomena like the overheating or oversaturation with release of the accumulated energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on February 19, 2017, 10:51:27 AM

@all

OK, so maybe I need to take this a little slower.
So I am putting up the same patent drawing as before.

For now, forget there is a rotary switch (H). Consider supply to be DC positive (A) and negative (B) and the fan motor brushes overlap as in a regular DC motor.

So the fan motor to work needs what? It needs a positive and a negative potential to rotate. Right or wrong?

The negative is going directly to the fan motor coil (C) so how is the positive going to the motor. Yes, the positive goes from (A) to (K) to (L) to (M) to then land on the (G) terminal that feeds into the motor coil (F). RIGHT OR WRONG?

At this point you all need to stop and contemplate what this means. If there is no positive potential at (G), the motor will not turn. Right or Wrong? So what does this mean?

In standard EE we are told (or convinced) that the "electricity" flows in the wires so in fact if it does flow then there cannot be a separation of potential because in any flow of anything, there is no compression possible and since all the flow follows in a line, it all needs to be the same flow. So the construct in itself is faulty from the start. We have just been trained to disregard this discrepancy for the sake of sanity (given the construct touches on insanity) or what I do not know. But regardless, the positive still needs to arrive at terminal (G) if you want that motor to turn and that fact will never change.

So the capacitor (L) and the Primary (M) are now both positive biased while the motor turns. This mean the complete winds of the primary (M) are positive biased in the "direction" (hate that word but nothing better to use) going from (L) to (M) to (G). Looking at drawing let's say it goes from the right through (M) to the left going to the (G) terminal. The capacitor at this usage offers some "resistance" to feed the fan motor while the primary (M) offers almost no resistance and the fan motor turns.

While the fan motor turns, why should the capacitor increase in charge above and beyond what is supplied by the battery feed (A) and (B). IT CANNOT. The capacitor is no more no less then a conductor with some resistance because its capacitor function is negated by the fan motor sucking juice all the time.

If you guys can absorb this thus far, you will understand that up till now and while the fan motor is turning the primary (M) never saw a negative potential because the negative potential is stuck in the fan motor coil (C) while the positive went "through" (L) to (M) to (G) to then be stuck in the fan motor coil (F).

OK. Now let's go the the next step and include the rotary switch (H).

When H closes and connects (K) to (G), the positive still enters the fan motor coil (F) as it did before although with less resistance since it no longer has to go "through" (L) and (M). But now, with less resistance it hits the primary (M) as well but now from the left through (M) and lands into the capacitor (L). SO THE WORKING PRIMARY NEVER SEES A NEGATIVE POTENTIAL. IT ONLY SEES A POSITIVE POTENTIAL FROM RIGHT TO LEFT WHEN (H) IS OPEN AND FROM LEFT TO RIGHT WHEN (H) IS CLOSED.

In normal EE we want the primary to change polarities so that change can be coupled to the secondary as per the turn rations and produce the required output. But what Tesla has done here is not use both polarities across the primary (M). He just changed the "direction" of only one polarity, the positive and how it is biasing the primary (M) and the secondary not giving a shit on why the change occurs, sees this and produces output. Change is change.

Now, if we consider that to measure the power consumption of the battery, we need to have both polarities in the consumption loop, what Tesla did here is bypass that and only use both polarities to turn the motor but only the positive polarity to produce the OZONE.

All this is more then logical. It is based on Spin Conveyance Theory and not standard electron flow theory. At the time when Tesla saw this effect, he did not know of SCT and being the honest camper that he was, you could only describe the effect to the best of his observational ability. Hence we say the capacitor in the Tesla patent discharges otherwise how is it possible to produce Ozone? But with SC, you can get the same observational result but now with a more precise rendering of the real function. Amazingly and instinctively, Tesla also solves the problem of Half Coil Syndrome since the primary has the fan motor coil in series when the positive is from right to left and the capacitor is in series as well when the positive goes from left to right.

Look, I know you will never read such a description of the Ozone patent anywhere else on the planet so guys, instead of just shoving me around like a piece of shit, I suggest you look at this carefully. The TOP will never be properly described by conventional EE and I already know that a good number of you will catch onto this quickly via SC. Otherwise you will be stuck to explain to us all how the primary changes potential when it never sees a negative. The Tesla Ozone Patent is using an ALTERNATING POSITIVE BIAS on the primary to produce the output. Sounds crazy but new ideas usually do. That I cannot change.

I'll stop here because I know those who read but never post here will want some time to digest this. Bon Appetit.

Note to guys PMing me. Please better you post your questions to me on the appropriate thread so others can read them as well.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 19, 2017, 03:53:33 PM

@ watt & everyone else
There is a fundamental difference between the connections
On the rotary containing the spark gap
The upper point (near G) is a gap
The lower point is a connection
The motor is always on, it's dc........

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on February 19, 2017, 04:23:42 PM

Quote from: sm0ky2 on February 19, 2017, 03:53:33 PM
@ watt & everyone else
There is a fundamental difference between the connections
On the rotary containing the spark gap
The upper point (near G) is a gap
The lower point is a connection
The motor is always on, it's dc........

Dear sm0ky2.

I have to disagree with you again.

The motor IS controlled by the rotary switch. You have source " A " onto " K " ...... " G " connects to the series windings and armature of the motor finally ending up at source " B " .

As the source would be relatively low in voltage I would consider it " in automotive " parlance to be the " LT " circuit.

Cheers Graham.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 19, 2017, 06:54:50 PM

Quote from: Grumage on February 19, 2017, 04:23:42 PM
Dear sm0ky2.

I have to disagree with you again.

The motor IS controlled by the rotary switch. You have source " A " onto " K " ...... " G " connects to the series windings and armature of the motor finally ending up at source " B " .

As the source would be relatively low in voltage I would consider it " in automotive " parlance to be the " LT " circuit.

Cheers Graham.

Been doing some research. The line level could be around 500vdc then. Some places higher, closer to the source, and lower into the 200 to 300vdc at the furthest reaches of the system. Thats where the advantage to ac comes in. The source voltage is boosted via transformer and can be sent long distance to step down transformers. Even before it gets to homes it is around 1500vac till it hits a transformer near the home and brought down to 120vac. DC could not be transformed down the line as ac can, back then.

Imagine having 500vdc at an outlet. Was not a very safe system in my opinion

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 19, 2017, 07:01:19 PM

Quote from: sm0ky2 on February 19, 2017, 03:53:33 PM
@ watt & everyone else
There is a fundamental difference between the connections
On the rotary containing the spark gap
The upper point (near G) is a gap
The lower point is a connection
The motor is always on, it's dc........

If when the H controller switch opens, the motor could still be powered some till the cap is full or say at its max voltage level in operation. Still wondering if the large depiction of the cap means a large cap. What was large in those days?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 20, 2017, 12:10:37 AM

Quote from: Grumage on February 19, 2017, 04:23:42 PM
Dear sm0ky2.

I have to disagree with you again.

The motor IS controlled by the rotary switch. You have source " A " onto " K " ...... " G " connects to the series windings and armature of the motor finally ending up at source " B " .

As the source would be relatively low in voltage I would consider it " in automotive " parlance to be the " LT " circuit.

Cheers Graham.

I think people are confused about what is actually going on
The way he is using the motor to charge the cap
The commutator in the motor breaks the dc and inverts it
Forming ac
All dc motors do this
thats what the brushes and slip rings are for
The brushes on the +side of the motor (G) are the opposite
of the commutator
When one is "off" the other is "on".
The dc current from the source is not interrupted
Meaning the source does not see a "pulsing load"
Like the way I keep hearing people try to imagine this

The capacitor picks up the pulses that the commutator creates
Not the commutator at brush G, but the one inside the motor
All motors do this
Don't get caught up on his trick to make this one be the way it is

The capacitor Does see a high frequency pulse
Which is amplified by the low self inductive Primary.
The dc commutator lets the field go
It "interrupts" it
Because the field coils in the motor have a high inductance
It dumps to the cap when the motor switches

He's not "turning the motor off and on"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 20, 2017, 01:21:32 AM

Quote from: sm0ky2 on February 20, 2017, 12:10:37 AM

He's not "turning the motor off and on"

Doesnt the pat say so?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 20, 2017, 02:25:28 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on February 20, 2017, 01:37:30 AM

Quote:

"The other terminal, as A, connects with a second brush K, bearing on the controller, so that the current which passes through and operates the motor is periodically interrupted."

"The circuit including the motor is of relatively high self-induction, and this property is imparted to it by coils of the motor, or, when these are not sufficient, by the addition of suitable choking-coils, so that at each break of the motor-circuit a current of high electro-motive force will be developed for charging the condenser, which may therefore be small and inexpensive."

End quote.

Yes Magluivin,

Twice!

You people listen to everyone except the ones who have done the fucking work! You want to progress, learn to recognize those who have a clue from the clueless!

I know this. Smoky was disputing it so I figured he didnt read it, so I asked.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 20, 2017, 02:51:43 AM

Just a clarification on my part....

The Ozone circuit is the same as the Igniter circuit, except for the cap charging through the primary. In the igniter the primary is not inline with the large inductor while charging the cap. Not sure what the significant difference would be of the 2 circuits.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: DivByZero on February 20, 2017, 02:23:22 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on January 26, 2017, 07:34:21 AM
My Dogma...

The cap is the fulcrum of the system because:

+ It is charged in series with the primary......

+ It is discharged in parallel with the primary......

Fundamentally you are dealing with the same components, however, you must recognize that you are dealing with two distinct circuits, circuits operating at different instances, circuits which owing to their specific relations CANNOT oscillate at the same frequency, circuits which owing to the aforementioned are not operating in phase!

Your eyes have been shut to the true nature of this and just about every other circuit Tesla has preserved. You only see half of a whole. You only see the parallel LC, you dont understand what the parallel LC is. Most assume when you have L and C you must tune. Just because you can doesn't mean it's what you are supposed to do.

Ok, I'm still stuck at this post. "Fulcrum", sounds almost like a "ground"? Erfinder, can you elaborate on this?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 20, 2017, 02:57:21 PM

Yes I read the patent
And the associated patents that are referenced therein
There is two drawings associated with it
And much more text than can fit in the uspto web index.
Most copies of his patent are truncated shortly after the
Numbered claims. Tesla goes on for a good minute in
everything he writes.

In particular, in his discussions concerning the dc motors
Wherein he describes what's going on inside.
The disruption occurs always. That's what makes the motor work.
The G brush takes the current from the disrupted field coil
And dumps it in the cap instead of into the air as emf, like a normal
motor.
Taking this out of the circuit doesn't stop the disruption
It stops the collapse from collecting in the cap.
There are other ways to do this, as described in his other patents.

We can tear apart word for word, but he clearly states that the motor
is connected by any ordinary means, then placed into the circuit.
The "circuit controller", which contains the motor brush G
Times the field collapse of the motor with the charging of the capacitor
This happens during the disruption
When the commutator inside the motor dumps the field to allow
continuous rotation.
The data sheets of every modern motor have all the info we need
The same variables they use to determine the motors rpm
The same motors can be made to run at a different rpm
By simply changing the geometry of an armature or the commutator

In "dc" terms constant current flows from the source
The duty cycle is 100% -( a fraction of time between the breaks)
If you add up the surface area of both commutators
You see that it is (almost) always on.

Electromagnetically, there is a high frequency a/c response.
He is taking the a/c which already occurs inside the dc motor
and dumping it out into the cap through the low self induction
of the primary.
The air gap in the primary circuit which dumps the cap to ground
Is on the face of the rotating disk.
Brush (inverse) commutator G is on the rim.

Assuming a bilateral internal commutator, and its' mirror image externally
The capacitor sees a high potential field collapse 4 times per rotation
The simplified rotary spark gap arcing twice, but knowing Tesla, nothing
is ever simplified so he probably used 4 arc points on the disk face.
To keep everything in resonance with the motor.
Then the gap distance and motor rpm could be set to whatever you desired.
Which he hints about in this patent and more thoroughly describes in others
that use this same set-up.
This is echoed by the second photo in which we see half the number of
commutations and half the inductance on the field coil.

The dc motor is always on,
The current flowing though it
Is disrupted (technically). This is always the case.
But the motor is on. it's the same as a normal dc motor.
If you put dc motor and battery on a scope
You can see the a/c frequency
But no one generally cares about that because we
throw it away to improve motor efficiency
Tesla is simply using that which is thrown away
as a high frequency circuit driver.
Storing it in a capacitor
And stepping up the voltage when it discharges
Through the secondary.
Which, in this device, ionizes the gas between the plates
as a factor of the charge potential, the volume of gas, and
the materials constants of the gas, and gas in general.
pressure is ambient in this example, so standard equations apply
with adjustments for temperature and altitude.
This can be used to mathematically calculate the plate distance
By knowing the max charged a/c potential
Instead of trial and error changing plate distances and fan speed
If your goal was to in fact "produce ozone" or perform similar
electrochemical reactions.

For the sake of discussion we can throw the secondary into a
category called "ok now that we have this, what do we do with it?"
The secondary can be anything from radio broadcast, artificial lightning,
High rpm, low torque motors, or a way to destroy bridges and skyscrapers
with little more than a 9v battery.

Understand we have today high frequency signal generators
That can do a much better job that these 100yr old tricks.
It's really not any different than our modern solid state ionizers
Except that Tesla operated by inherently different values when it comes
to energy consumption.
Tesla designed his circuits to amplify as they performed work.
Our modern engineers design circuits to consume the energy as work.
What is not work, disappears as heat and emf.

Tesla says that if we used it all, it would all be 100% dissipated as heat
in the wiring and nothing would be send further down the line.
And as work

But how does that work?
Isn't that ou? We have extra heat ?
No
Because thermodynamics views this as two independent systems.
One system energy goes in and performs work
And energy goes out to the source.
In the other energy comes in turns into heat
And energy goes out to the source.
The laws apply as intended.
Since the source is the same source, and both the work circuit
and heating circuit are thermodynamically 'legal'
The result is more energy is used from the source before returning
to the source.
Not an increase in efficiency in terms of energy in and out
The efficiency of both systems combined is actually less than the
efficiency of either system by itself.
But rather an increase of consumption of the (normally wasted)
Energy flow.

The Ozone maker is no different. It is a Load that receives a portion of the induction
through the primary. The rest is just dumped across the capacitor.
If the secondary were connected to a heating coil it would be the same.
In a sense, this is an old version of the 3-battery charging system.

It's really all irrelevant since we can just connect the primary to a
signal generator or timer circuit, with enough inductance to make it spark across a gap, or
other equivalent variable impedance/capacitance.
And inductor with a variable capacitor
Or capacitor with variable inductor
Can be tuned to perform the same function
It's right about (but not exactly) that point at which the time of induction precisely coincides
with the timing from the charging source.
This is a frequency at which you will see amplitudes increase across the circuit
Impedance through the primary decreases
Voltage induced through the secondary increases
And your Ozone plates should work very well.

We can of course, just drive a transformer with the signal generator and make Ozone.
Open up an ionizer and you will most likely see an hv transformer or a voltage multiplying
capacitor bank.
But that would be UnTesla in nature and will not result in more usable power.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on February 20, 2017, 03:59:41 PM

@sm0ky2

I think the tokey smokey was a little too much.

First off, there is no spark gap in the ozone patent except on the secondary to produce the arcs that fracture air into ozone.

Also, the fan motor commutator is not a slip ring. There are no slip rings in the patent.

How I described the function is how it works. No one will find a better function mode and saying the capacitor charges is wrong. There is no capacitor charge. The capacitor is always connected in series with the fan motor so it cannot charge and notice there is no diode anyways to hold a charge let alone have it discharge and that's one of the reasons the capacitor can be small. The rotary switch when closed can only rebias the primary from it's original biasing but always on the positive side of the potential. No negative potential ever reaches the primary SO THE SOURCE BATTERY OR OTHER CANNOT SEE IT AS POWER CONSUMPTION.

The elegance of this is very simple and could basically be summarized by the saying "Expend a little energy to run a fan motor and produce ozone in series for free". If Tesla said it this way then, he probably would never have gotten his patent.

@Magluvin

You make a good point about the source voltage levels but that does not change anything in the function besides the primary to secondary turn ratios because your main target is to reach a level high enough to produce ozone.

When Tesla says a small capacitor can be used in this system, that's because the primary has practically no inductance so very little effort is required to change the potential over the primary. You do not need a capacitor discharging and the capacitor in any case cannot hold a charge because it is always in series with the fan motor.

When the rotary switch closes, the feed source does not fall to zero volts because of the inductance in the fan motor does not present a true short condition. Also when it is closed the positive cannot short on itself from the positive of the capacitor. BUT THE RAPID CHANGE IN THE "DIRECTION" OF THE POSITIVE POTENTIAL IS WHAT IS CREATING THE CHANGE THE SECONDARY NEEDS TO PRODUCE OUTPUT. LIKE I SAID THE SECONDARY DOES NOT CARE ABOUT HOW THE CHANGE OCCURRED, ONLY THAT THERE IS CHANGE AND IT HAS THE ABILITY TO TRANSLATE THAT SINGLE POTENTIAL CHANGE INTO A DUAL POTENTIAL OUTPUT SIMPLY BECAUSE OF ITS OWN TOPOLOGY.

When the rotary switch then opens, you do not even have flyback because the change only occurred on the positive side of the potential and again the fan motor is always connected, never disconnected from the main series line.

Man oh man, don't know why this is so complicated. Tesla is a genius. He made a fan motor that can run the ozone part for free. What else do you want? He just mechanically simulated a single polarity H-bridge.

Maybe in a few years when all this sinks in, some will catch on but for now guys will just keep crackin the egg.

If anyone has a better function mode then put it up in a logical manner and I will come back and ask you questions on how your logic is possible or not. But your explanation has to be methodical otherwise things get mired up in misunderstandings and heads start to swell and blow up.

So to start to get your brains going remove the primary and the rotary switch from the patent and tell me if the fan motor will rotate or not when the feed supply is connected. Yes or No?

wattsup

PS: Some have caught on but many have not.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: shylo on February 20, 2017, 04:32:33 PM

I think it's just about bouncing the input against Lenz ( the reverse).
There will always be a spot , where you have to input, to keep it going.
The motor coils send a spike back at the supply, and if the interuptor is closed at the time ,to the rest of the circuit.
The spike is not enough.It helps.
Just trying to incorporate it all together.
artv

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on February 20, 2017, 07:49:45 PM

@shylo

There cannot be a spike sent back because the fan motor commutators are using overlapped brushes which means there is never a period where nothing is connected and being overlapped means before it leaves one segment it is already in the next segment. Take any dc motor and scope it. No spikes. Inductors only spike or discharge when they are disconnected and in this patent the fan motor, weather the rotary switch is closed or not, is always connected.

Over my 35 year stink as a water treatment professional I have worked with ozone generators producing up to 20 pounds per day. This Tesla ozone generator will probably produce a few grams a day. There is no need for intense activity, high capacitor discharges, etc. All you need is the right primary to secondary ratio, the right arc distance, the right air flow of hopefully dry air and a convenient way of running. The genius in this is how he did it over 100 years ago and how he is using an already running fan motor to excite the ozone production end and in my view, the ozone end is running for free. This patent flies in the face of Standard EE while guys are trying to explain how it works with Standard EE. It's like force feeding a hummingbird.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: shylo on February 21, 2017, 04:15:43 AM

Wattsup you said, "there is never a period where nothing is connected"
In line 80 of the patent Tesla say's the current that passes through the motor is periodically interrupted.
I don't think Tesla used commutators that overlapped, is there any proof he did?
artv

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on February 21, 2017, 07:04:17 AM

Hi guys, Erfinder ;)

I'd like to ask, if the phase difference between current and voltage inside the "in series" circuit is one of the key points. It is something that hasn't been discussed yet and can make a whole lot of difference in predicting circuit's behavior.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on February 21, 2017, 07:22:36 AM

Quote from: Jeg on February 21, 2017, 07:04:17 AM
Hi guys, Erfinder ;)

I'd like to ask, if the phase difference between current and voltage inside the "in series" circuit is one of the key points. It is something that hasn't been discussed yet and can make a whole lot of difference in predicting circuit's behavior.

Regards

Getting warmer

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 21, 2017, 09:52:44 AM

Quote from: Jeg on February 21, 2017, 07:04:17 AM
Hi guys, Erfinder ;)

I'd like to ask, if the phase difference between current and voltage inside the "in series" circuit is one of the key points. It is something that hasn't been discussed yet and can make a whole lot of difference in predicting circuit's behavior.

Regards

I would say that if your tools operate by taking an average, sampled over time
This form of analysis becomes essential, to understand what is happening
Otherwise it is utterly redundant reverse engineering

Instead of an ionizer, we could use this to operate a low inductance motor
Powered by the energy normally wasted in the primary motor.
The "free energy" is the energy we throw away to avoid direct combat with Lenze.
If we didn't throw it away, the motor wouldn't turn, it would just be a heater with a
stationary rotor inside.
Tesla is showing us one (of many) methods to use this energy instead of throwing it away.

I'm not going to go back and forth arguing over what Tesla teaches us, and other people's
Imaginary concepts of magical events.
It's not that complicated

The technologies we have today do the same thing more efficiently, if you get lost on
the mundane details of a non conventional mechanism that's been obsolete for 8 decades
You are missing the context of the operations taking place by said mechanism.

The motor isn't there to provide the energy. It's there to provide an air flow and actuate the
rotary (commutator/or spark gap - it's irrelevant except for convenience).
The motor is the main inductive load, and from a perspective outside the circuit, is
consuming all of the energy. (Whether we use it or not)
The ionizer is operated with only a fraction of this, and the air flow can be achieved using
the ionic potential already present on the plates, therefore requires no fan.

Timer circuit or suitable transformer can run the Ion machine using a fraction of Teslas motor
set-up. And these units are commercially available today. The Ion machine is not important,
what Tesla is really showing us is that the motor doubles as an a/c signal generator.

There's nothing special going on here that Tesla did not demonstrate in his first oscillator.
That's what we should be paying attention to, His secrets are in how he uses the oscillations,
Not his tricks for creating them in a time when we didn't have the tech.
We have the tech now.
Just use a signal generator, a 5555 timer, a radio, a [insert circuit here]
Take the drawings and draw a big red circle around the primary and the capacitor
Take a black sharpie and destroy the rest of the image
Now focus on what is inside those two red circles.
What are they?
Why are they what they are?
How do they relate to each other?

What the f? <---------------------

Build it
And all will become clear

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: partzman on February 21, 2017, 04:15:49 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on February 21, 2017, 02:37:37 PM

Phase relation is important, and not just in the "series" circuit. Food for thought.... Reactive power is useless up until that moment when you realize it isn't.

Regards

I hate to be redundant but below is the sim from post #7952 only with some additions. I have shown the reactive power levels in the series and parallel circuit producing the ozone. They both have negative power levels therefore their phase angles are slightly >90 degrees. The motor powering the fan does not loose speed as it field maintains constant current so the ozone (or ideally any load) is produced for free IMO. Energy amplification.

pm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on February 21, 2017, 05:47:26 PM

Hello,

tesla us patent 568 176:

i think its:
3 coils wound on toroid! + interrupter(to discharge the 2 caps)+ 2 caps in series + 1 tesla coil?

about the 3 coils? have one more question?

if we connect the primary coil in parallel with the secondery coil of tesla coils? what will happen?

not sure, but maybe we know the true LC circuit!!

Thanks and Regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: shylo on February 21, 2017, 07:05:37 PM

I think Tesla figured out how to use the flow through circuits , to initiate flow in secondary circuits.
Never getting enough to be the primary , but enough to run secondaries, but you can add more secondaries
That in the end add up to more than the primary can produce.
If you bounce the magnetic field against a field that is of the right polarity at the right time,it can assist
instead of working against you.
It's like taking a little from each sub-circuit to add up to be more than the initial circuit is providing.
I may be wrong , but that is where I'm looking.
artv

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 21, 2017, 11:52:11 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on February 20, 2017, 01:37:30 AM

Quote:

"The other terminal, as A, connects with a second brush K, bearing on the controller, so that the current which passes through and operates the motor is periodically interrupted."

"The circuit including the motor is of relatively high self-induction, and this property is imparted to it by coils of the motor, or, when these are not sufficient, by the addition of suitable choking-coils, so that at each break of the motor-circuit a current of high electro-motive force will be developed for charging the condenser, which may therefore be small and inexpensive."

End quote.

Yes Magluivin,

Twice!

You people listen to everyone except the ones who have done the fucking work! You want to progress, learn to recognize those who have a clue from the clueless!

So it says if the motor is not of sufficiently high inductance, additional choke coils can be added, then why would we need to study the motor? It seems that only the high inductance is needed? And if we dont need to fuss about the ozone production, why do we need the motor, with a fan?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 22, 2017, 03:28:35 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on February 22, 2017, 06:43:17 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on February 21, 2017, 02:37:37 PM

Phase relation is important, and not just in the "series" circuit. Food for thought.... Reactive power is useless up until that moment when you realize it isn't.

Regards

Sometimes i wonder in what level our general awareness would be without your contribution..

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on February 22, 2017, 06:07:29 PM

@Partzman

Looking at your previous post #7951 and #8051 both good work but seems there is some problem there in the circuit if it is to replicate the ozone patent.

C3 should not be there at all. (If not as a pf value to help the mosfet then it should be removed).
L1 is the fan motor so should be a transformer with a secondary consuming some juice like a bulb or other or if the simulator can put in a fan motor that would be best.
V1 and M1 should be reversed. I guess M1 should be a PNP since it is passing the positive.
L2 to L3 seems OK.

Consider in the patent diagram (A) as positive and (B) as negative.

If there is a way to simulate that I would recommend to test it in two ways one without then one with M1 and C3 (if applicable). That will show any additional load with them in as a good comparison.

I have no experience in using such simulators so I may be off the mark but it seems to me the present circuit is not depicting the TOP process as it should.

Thanks for your work by the way.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on February 22, 2017, 06:31:44 PM

Hello,

well, there is no short cut!...so lets start from the begening..

tesla us patent 462, 418 method of conversion? maybe i can see it in all his later patent?!!
we need to replicate that patent, can you help?

Thanks and regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2017, 01:44:20 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnZc1dujgg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnZc1dujgg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y97rBdSYbkg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y97rBdSYbkg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yYWILv91YU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yYWILv91YU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMc3fvm7m7s

see tesla is right it can go millions of horse power :o :)

momentum, chain reaction and accumulation.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on February 24, 2017, 05:54:46 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2017, 01:44:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnZc1dujgg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnZc1dujgg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y97rBdSYbkg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y97rBdSYbkg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yYWILv91YU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yYWILv91YU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMc3fvm7m7s

see tesla is right it can go millions of horse power :o :)

momentum, chain reaction and accumulation.

What does mean these words?

Momentum= High volt?

Chain reaction= Primary and secondary together like pic under..?

Accumulation= Is in self-induction? or bifilar-coil capacitor? or Regular capacitor? ???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 24, 2017, 08:27:35 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 23, 2017, 01:44:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnZc1dujgg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnZc1dujgg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y97rBdSYbkg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y97rBdSYbkg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yYWILv91YU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yYWILv91YU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMc3fvm7m7s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMc3fvm7m7s)

see tesla is right it can go millions of horse power :o :)

momentum, chain reaction and accumulation.

What you are prescribing as an analogy to energy amplification is just an illusion. Magic trick. balony.

If it were a good analogy of EA, then by tipping the smallest block, it would lift the next larger block up from a fallen position to a standing position. In those examples, the blocks are already loaded. The energy was put into the system by standing the blocks up and the smaller blocks are able to topple the next block because the next block is capable of being set off balance easily.

More detail.... What you are showing in those vids would be similar to having say 5 capacitors, each one larger than the next, say 2uf, 10uf, 50uf, 250uf and 1250uf as an example. Each cap would have to be precharged, just as the blocks would have to be stood up. Then each cap successively is able to trigger a switch, relay, transistor on the next larger cap to dump its charge into a load, or just short it out to drain the energy in each successively. All just a huge waste of energy, zero efficiency. ZERO. You are misleading people in a completely opposite direction than what they are here for. Terrible.

Where is the EA in that? Again, false info given as if it would actually help us. Hasnt for 9 years or so no, so what more would we expect. Just more tricks and garbage.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on February 24, 2017, 09:02:29 PM

Erfinder

What specific motor pat should I be looking at?

Or can I find 'what' in any of his patents?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on February 24, 2017, 11:10:34 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on February 24, 2017, 08:27:35 PM
What you are prescribing as an analogy to energy amplification is just an illusion. Magic trick. balony.

If it were a good analogy of EA, then by tipping the smallest block, it would lift the next larger block up from a fallen position to a standing position. In those examples, the blocks are already loaded. The energy was put into the system by standing the blocks up !!!!

and garbage.

Mags

PRECISELY

Kinetic energy. Finally someone seeing the light here. Anyone can roll a big stone to the top of a hill and then with a push of a little finger watch that stone roll down the hill again causing massive destruction......but the stone doesn't magically run back up the hill on its own again does it!!! That would be overunity.

Tito is a bloody idiot halfwit retarded child. Why keep asking somebody who doesn't know for the solution???? That's even dumber than tito himself

Hey Tito do you still go to church and pray for forgiveness after lying to yourself and others each week???? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D All of your stupid youtube of known scam does not make it the truth.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 25, 2017, 02:25:36 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 25, 2017, 03:12:26 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on February 24, 2017, 05:54:46 PM
What does mean these words?

Momentum= High volt?

Chain reaction= Primary and secondary together like pic under..?

Accumulation= Is in self-induction? or bifilar-coil capacitor? or Regular capacitor? ???

Momentum = infinite moment, self doing, its the character of the electricity.
Chain reaction = means it has connection from the previous, interconnected coil.
Accumulation = incremention, greater than previous. incremented power in the capacitor for every iteration.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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. ::)

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 25, 2017, 05:54:07 AM

I appologize to everything especially to my mentor Erfinder
i don't mean to say that sir, i was just in a drunk mode. i'm sorry sir. :)

i will not participate here anymore ok.

goodbye everyone.

:)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: penno64 on February 25, 2017, 06:31:00 AM

PURE GENIUS!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 25, 2017, 06:54:23 AM

SORRY TO EVERYONE OK SORRY. :) :-* :-* :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dog-One on February 25, 2017, 09:35:07 AM

Quote from: Erfinder
Follow the link to "The Flame"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7owyBGOpwzI

Approach with caution, and make no assumptions about what's taking place, this has not been demonstrated before.

I'm going to judge your work Erfinder. I'm going to do it...

THAT'S SOME COOL SHIT RIGHT THERE !!

Now that you have me all giddy, I have to ponder...

What do you suppose that amplified energy might do to a small drop of water?
And would a drop of water be able to amplify that energy some more?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: web000x on February 25, 2017, 10:10:30 AM

Quote from: Dog-One on February 25, 2017, 09:35:07 AM
I'm going to judge your work Erfinder. I'm going to do it...

THAT'S SOME COOL SHIT RIGHT THERE !!

Yes, exactly why I pay the man some attention despite the lack of all of the technical details. It's funny, everybody gets all upset that he hasn't provided these, yet the demos speak for themselves if you've ever dabbled in your lab for any significant period of time. I've not written off Erfinder and have been privy to a few phone conversations that have been rather enlightening. You should all pay attention if you haven't already come to that conclusion on your own.

Dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Dog-One on February 25, 2017, 10:58:22 AM

It kind of goes like this...

Think for yourself. Do your own work and bring something to the table.

If he laughs at you or kicks you in the balls, bring more next time. ;)

Maybe it's kind of old fashioned behavior, I have no complaints. Works for me.

People are darn lucky Erfinder tells/shows the amount of stuff he does.
If he didn't, chances are pretty good he would be keeping his doomsday
machine all to himself. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: penno64 on February 25, 2017, 02:30:58 PM

Mechanical version of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UCm50kAKEg

7:32

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on February 25, 2017, 07:02:46 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 25, 2017, 05:54:07 AM
I appologize to everything especially to my mentor Erfinder
i don't mean to say that sir, i was just in a drunk mode. i'm sorry sir. :)

i will not participate here anymore ok.

goodbye everyone.

:)

Good riddance to bad rubbish

Heard it all before....many times you promise to piss off and not come back. If only that were true. Problem is you use 8 other names and pretend to be other people.

You really are pathetic

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on February 25, 2017, 07:03:40 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 25, 2017, 06:54:23 AM
SORRY TO EVERYONE OK SORRY. :) :-* :-* :-*

Heard that before too

You aren sorry...just mentally ill

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on February 25, 2017, 08:09:28 PM

Quote from: endlessoceans on February 25, 2017, 07:03:40 PM
Heard that before too

You aren sorry...just mentally ill

What a lame brain you are! You claim you want him gone but then you deliberately write stuff to provoke him into making a response. If you really had any sense you would just let him go without all the drama.

You can write all the silly crap you want to about this post but I will only ignore you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on February 26, 2017, 03:00:23 AM

GEM Geometrical Electricity Multiplication
Re: GEM=(Geometrical Electricity Multiplication)
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/
« Reply #100 on: Today at 12:50:57 PM »
This technology is truly very simple, as it uses the circumference difference of one large pulley of 100 cm, and many,(10) small 1 cm circumference pulleys. By using multiple smaller pulleys we can multiply the total # of rotations, and by adding AC generators, we can multiply our AC cycles of electricity. It is as simple as that, you are using the use of multiple pulleys to multiply your total # of rotations, which can be turned into AC electricity, by simply adding AC generators to the many, 10 small pulleys.

You are taking the 100 cm of belt that you get from the one rotation of a 100 cm circumference pulley, which costs only the slight amount of electricity that it takes to rotate a DC motor once. This is called a GEM = Geometrical Electricity Multiplier because that is what it does, by using multiple # of small 1 cm circumference pulleys, with AC generators attached. So you only pay for one rotation of a large 100 cm circumference pulley, and get back a multiple of 100 rotations, for every 1 cm circumference pulley with an AC generator that you attach to the same belt. So, if you add ten small 1 cm circumference pulleys, then you would get a return of 1000 cycles of AC electricity, all for the cost of one rotation of your DC drive motor. You just have to be multiplying you electricity, gaining 1000's of cycles of AC electricity, for the cost of the slight amount of DC electricity that it costs for one single rotation of your DC motor.

This mechanism should run perpetually, with the 1000's of cycles of AC, when run through bridge rectifiers, should easily be able to produce enough DC electricity to crank your DC motor over once. These 10 AC generators would be easy to rotate, as they are just being used to wind up massive voltage, and only need to have the slight amount of current that a DC motor takes to rotate one single time. Since torque is caused when you are generating power, and power is current times voltage, P=IV. Since we only need the smallest amount of current, practically zero, and zero times even massive amounts of voltage still equals practically zero. Thereby these small pulleys should rotate with practically zero torque, and they should be winding up massive voltage, which is exactly what you need to crank the DC motor over just the once.

Just build this super simple GEM - AC electricity multiplying device, and watch it work. Once built, you should be able to start it running by simply giving the large pulley a slight rotation. These AC + DC motor/generators should run continuously, allowing you to tap electricity off of both your AC + DC generators/motors. If you find that this GEM free energy device does not have enough DC electricity to power your apparatus, then just add more 1 cm circumference pulleys with AC generators attached, to the same belt, to add additional current + voltage capability.

YOU ARE PAYING FOR 1 ROTATION + GETTING BACK 100's,,, OR 1000's,,, OR MORE
by simply using pulley mechanics, you can multiply your AC electricity cycles.

what I happen to be doing, is using simple pulley mechanics,
to change 1 rotation of a large 100 cm circumference pulley,
into 100 rotations of every 1 cm circumference pulley that you add,
+ thereby multiplying the total amount of AC electricity.
By simply adding a belt to connect these two or more pulleys,
and by simply adding 10 of the 1 cm pulleys with AC generators,
you can gain 1000 cycles of AC electricity,,, all for one small amount of DC electricity.

I originally added a battery into the system, to store the excess power, and added a warning to this mechanism that left alone, this battery charging device could result in the battery exploding + catching fire. I worried about this, because of it being able to continuously produce power, and overcharging the battery. I stated that you needed to have a cut off circuit, to prevent over charging.

This truly works guys + gals,,, I know that it sounds too simple to actually work. You are using simple pulley mechanics to multiply your total # of rotations, and by simply adding many small pulleys with AC generators attached, you could be using pulleys to greatly multiplying your AC electricity, instead of paying money to the terrorist for oil.

It is the billions of evil spirits that are screaming in your ears, "THIS WILL NEVER WORK" + "ONLY A FOOL WOULD TRY THIS". That is because they are desperately trying to hide this ancient UFO technology that can be found in the Bible = Ezekiel 1:16. They are + have been hiding this super grade school technology because they want us to keep buying oil,,, from countries that produce terrorist,,, to help create terrorism = what they like best
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http://free-energy.yolasite.com/
Because the Door will close on this Prophecy being fulfilled on Jan 15th , 2019
http://doorschristmustpassthrough.yolasite.com/, http://2020-vision.yolasite.com/
These are the rules God has set before us
http://beliefstoliveby.yolasite.com/
possible timing for TRIBULATION SAINTS
http://possibletimingfortribulation.yolasite.com/
UFOs + GHOSTS do exist, there are just not who they pretend to be
http://aliensandghosts.yolasite.com/
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It was how God predicted, to the exact day,,, May 14th, 1948
the day that Israel would get their second chance + become a nation again
Written in the Holy Bible way back in Ezekiel's day
http://www.grantjeffrey.com/pdf/JeffBIBLE-EzekVision2.pdf
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This convinced me that the Holy Bible spoke Truth
About Jesus Christ paying for our Salvation
+ Jesus being the only Door for us to enter Heaven
Becoming one part of God's Family

Title: False Prophet
Post by: citfta on February 26, 2017, 06:27:54 AM

You have been asked several times to stop polluting other peoples thread with your foolish ideas. Since you refuse to honor that polite request you have been reported to the Admin.

If you insist on posting over and over again your false ideas you should at least have enough respect for others to restrict your posting to one or two threads and not pollute the whole forum with your false prophet ideas.

You have one person who is trying to prove your idea. Go work with him and leave the rest of us alone.

Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: shylo on February 27, 2017, 08:28:54 PM

Is heat not a form of energy?
Or better yet , the disappation?
Utilize it all.
artv

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: shylo on February 28, 2017, 07:00:21 PM

Heat is created when the flow is being impeded , correct?
All motive action creates heat, ?
Heat can generate.
Tie them altogther and it might work.
artv

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: shylo on March 01, 2017, 05:28:38 PM

If heat is being generated , your in the wrong place. (just my opinion)
Take the action that initiates the production of that heat and transfer it,
Heat is the most consuming when trying to make flow,
The less heat the better,
When you initiate flow, whether by connecting a battery, or passing a magnet past a coil, you load it,
What happens?
artv

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: handrajaya@gmail.com on March 21, 2017, 10:18:03 PM

Dear Tito,

After years of finding your clue, finally got this.
Now up to everybody to use it !

Cheers

Putu

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on March 24, 2017, 09:11:43 AM

PUTU , where you stay ... ehmmm ... i think we are close enough ... at least 500 km from your place .... 10 hours long travelling .... TITONIUM is shrewd person while telling real truth

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on March 24, 2017, 09:32:16 PM

Quote from: handrajaya@gmail.com on March 21, 2017, 10:18:03 PM
Dear Tito,

After years of finding your clue, finally got this.
Now up to everybody to use it !

Cheers

Putu

Finally!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on March 25, 2017, 06:41:08 AM

Ignore the trolls

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: handrajaya@gmail.com on March 28, 2017, 09:22:41 AM

Dear tim energy

From which city are you ?

Regards

Putu

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tim energy on March 30, 2017, 09:35:47 AM

PUTU ... just remember ... ' mad lion ' city ... strudell food ... are you get it ?
it's very interesting ... after years of collecting the clue .. you must happiest person in you home and universe ... like Tito ...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: handrajaya@gmail.com on March 31, 2017, 03:12:14 AM

Dear tim energy,

Sorry I don't get your clue :-(
Maybe need several years to get it like Tito's :-)

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on April 12, 2017, 08:30:40 AM

Dear Erfinder.

Whilst busy with other projects your reference to Tesla's " Ozone patent " has been coming and going through my mind.

I remembered the other day of a SS circuit I had tinkered with, rather badly.....

Would the attached circuit diagram be a close cousin ?

Kind regards, Graham.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on April 12, 2017, 01:11:31 PM

Erfinder,

My attempt to describe the operational sequence of the ozone generator.

DC source, positive A, negative B. Switch H is closed.

At startup, positive A charges a high self-inductance, F+D, through switch H, also equalizing the charge on cap L through primary M at the same time. While switch H is closed the motor is receiving a current from AB and rotates.

Motor rotates x degrees and switch H opens.
The motor is disconnected from source at A, not B.
Inductance F+D sends a high voltage discharge through primary M into cap L.
At this instant is the discharge oscillatory between F+D and cap L?
A emf output is produced at secondary N.
Current also continues onward to source B from F+D during the discharge.

Motor rotates x degrees by momentum and switch H closes.
The motor reconnects to current source A and F+D recharge.
The cap L is shorted through switch H and primary M and a high frequency oscillatory discharge occurs between L & M.
For each oscillation a higher voltage emf is produced at secondary N. That emf is high frequency AC and is the beginning of the working circuit.

My thoughts:

The high frequency emf from N charges a larger cap in the working circuit that can be discharged into a step-down transformer to produce a lower frequency higher current emf for use.

The relationship of inductance, capacity, and resistance sets the frequency of L & M and also the frequency of the working circuit.

It looks as if the HV oscillating discharge between L & M would also charge the source through A.

It seems to be a very efficient set up. The pulse motor does work on it's own and the inductive discharge from the field coils that is normally wasted can be used to produce a high voltage with high current.

Sounds simple enough. What am I missing? Am I way off base here?

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on April 13, 2017, 02:15:17 PM

Erfinder, thanks for responding. I do hope there is more to it than the obvious.

Well if I have the basic idea worked out then I think this would make a good first Tesla experiment.

The standard explanation of resonant rise, as I understand it, is 'incrementally storing more and more energy from the power supply' but that does not take into consideration contributions from other things like the inductive discharge or the secondary of the oscillation transformer and the cap connected to it for example. At least that is my thinking at the moment. If I build this properly I'll bet I see a few surprises and learn some things.

I think I can rig up a rotary switch, high inductance, and transformers fairly easily, caps will have to be ordered though. Probably use a 12VDC battery for the supply, maybe at a half amp.

Do you have a suggestion as to the oscillation frequency to shoot for in the L M circuit, or should I just try to follow Tesla's lead?

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: penno64 on May 19, 2017, 04:30:01 PM

thank you

Penno

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 19, 2017, 05:18:36 PM

Quote from: penno64 on May 19, 2017, 04:30:01 PM
thank you

Penno

Same here ;)

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on May 21, 2017, 02:00:58 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on May 19, 2017, 03:21:45 PM

First, the cap is charged (by the supply) when the controller is open. The current charging the capacitor moves through a circuit which includes the motor windings, and primary of the transformer......Doh! The cap discharge (at switch closure) is NOT the only current exciting the transformer!!!!!

If the above didn't get your attention.....while "charging" the capacitor forms a series LC with the primary of the transformer....while "discharging" the capacitor forms a parallel LC with the primary of the transformer....holy shit...what does it mean....(certainly not what you're thinking.....) My original post was in Jan 2016... five months later.....folk still parroting the text, no real thought, just a bunch of copying and pasting.... pisses me off... I told you people, it's not about the obvious, or your goddamn measurements and or simulations! What you want demands a fundamental change in perspective, begins with opening your damn eyes and seeing what's right fucking there!

The cap charging current causes the rotor to spin, excites the primary, and induces current in the secondary of the transformer! Once the cap fills, current stops....pwm without the pwm..... This is a what the fuck moment.....why, you are being informed of that which "CAN", that which is taking place prior to switch closure, and this using what Tesla shows you. Are there alternatives to what he's shown....yep...have I provided a demo....yep.....was anyone paying attention....probably not....can I blame you....wouldn't matter if I did.....

Regards

With an 8 pole controller switch with 4 open and 4 closed segments of 45 degrees each, if the small cap is charged in, say 20 degrees of the motor rotation while the circuit controller is open, then during the remaining 25 degrees the motor is a generator.

As for the series charging and parallel discharging, the only thing I can relate to that at this moment is voltage is increased in a series LC and amperage is increased in a parallel LC, or so I have read.

There are several different frequencies traveling through the transformer primary. What was that Tesla said, something about constructing to the Law of Harmonics? You know, where two frequencies can produce a third frequency?

Is this relevant to what you are getting at? Probably not.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on May 23, 2017, 04:23:50 PM

Thanks Erfinder. That was actually helpful to me. Yeah I know, you don't care, but thanks just the same.
I'm just trying to understand the best I can before I attempt to build this.

By the way, when you joined in on this thread http://overunity.com/3972/the-tesla-project/ back in 2008 and tried to get people to build a layman's verification of the ozone patent did you already understand everything you have been trying to open our eyes to on this thread?

Just curious is all.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 23, 2017, 10:32:31 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on May 19, 2017, 03:21:45 PM

First, the cap is charged (by the supply) when the controller is open. The current charging the capacitor moves through a circuit which includes the motor windings, and primary of the transformer......Doh! The cap discharge (at switch closure) is NOT the only current exciting the transformer!!!!!

If the above didn't get your attention.....while "charging" the capacitor forms a series LC with the primary of the transformer....while "discharging" the capacitor forms a parallel LC with the primary of the transformer....holy shit...what does it mean....(certainly not what you're thinking.....) My original post was in Jan 2016... five months later.....folk still parroting the text, no real thought, just a bunch of copying and pasting.... pisses me off... I told you people, it's not about the obvious, or your goddamn measurements and or simulations! What you want demands a fundamental change in perspective, begins with opening your damn eyes and seeing what's right fucking there!

The cap charging current causes the rotor to spin, excites the primary, and induces current in the secondary of the transformer! Once the cap fills, current stops....pwm without the pwm..... This is a what the fuck moment.....why, you are being informed of that which "CAN", that which is taking place prior to switch closure, and this using what Tesla shows you. Are there alternatives to what he's shown....yep...have I provided a demo....yep.....was anyone paying attention....probably not....can I blame you....wouldn't matter if I did.....

Regards

So are we looking at the motor mech output as a benefit here? Just wondering

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on May 25, 2017, 05:07:38 AM

DO I EVER BELIEVE IN ENERGY AMPLIFICATION,,, ESPECIALLY PULLEY INDUCED AC ELECTRICITY MULTIPLICATION
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This is the biggist deal since the first wheel. You are using simple preschool pulley technology, to not only multiply the # of rotations, but since AC electricity is only made of the rotations of a coil through a magnetic field. It is the next generation wheel, "wheel in the middle of a wheel" –(Ezekiel 1:16). This pulley mechanism is a super simple way of gaining free energy, by only paying for the one rotation of a DC motor with a large 100 cm circumference pulley connected, and getting back 1000 cycle of AC electricity, from 10 attached pulleys of 1 cm circumference, with AC generators attached, 10X100=1000. I state the Holy Bible quote, as this was the answer that I was given, when I questioned if this really came from the Spirit of God, and not from evil spirits just trying to confuse me. It is in the Bible where Ezekiel is trying to describe what a UFO motor looks like while it was running, with the color of arcing electricity in the motors/generators. So this is not only free energy, by letting electricity generate itself, but a way to travel in the heavens, in what they called "chariot of fire" or "wheels were lifted up". I was thinking that this might have something to do with generating such a massive voltage, that it somehow repels against the voltage of objects, including the earth and other panets + stars.
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There is no resistance from the mini-pulleys with AC generators attached. Think about them as free running motors, with nothing attached to them, as there is no resistance to them,,, they are only free running motors, as these 1000 cycles of AC electricity only have to generate one single bit of current, only enough to rotate your DC drive motor one single rotation, (practically nothing)+ torque is only caused when you are generating power, + P=IV or power equals "I"-current multiplied by "V"oltage. So, no matter how much Voltage you are winding up, when you multiply it by practically zero current, it still equals practically zero Power, which takes practically zero torque. Because zero times anything is still zero. All that they are doing is winding up massive voltage, that is used to crank over your DC motor, and because you only have to rotate it one single time, we don't need to create any current,,, only one spark,,, to crank over your DC drive motor once..... no torque is needed.
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THIS IS HOW SATAN HIDES THIS SIMPLE TECHNOLOGY
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can I ask you/warn you to be sure and give 10% to the church, (not catholic) as this was a Gift from God, for His Saints,,, Pre-Trib + the Tribulation Saints
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PLEASE,,,
Check this out with any Christian friends that you might have, especially mechanical engineers.
Although I tried to give this, (in an earlier version), to 3 churches + one retired Minister so far, with no takers so far. I will send this version to them as well.
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I can't understand why no one could see this obviously super simple GEM free energy technology.
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Is satan so powerful, and mankind so unwilling to listen to GOD, + so willing to listen to evil spirits,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on June 11, 2017, 03:05:28 PM

EVil-sOLUTION - free energy can be found in a UFO motor description in Ezekiel 1:16
TIME IS SHORT = the Pre-Trib Rapture + the infamous 7 year peace treaty with Israel MUST START before the Door closes on 2019.04-"know that it is near, even at the doors" Mat 24:33 http://doorschristmustpassthrough.yolasite.com/ . DOOR = (Christ must return before date) We were given the best Gift from God, (other than Jesus) right here in Atlantic Canada + just before the infamous 7 years Peace Treaty, + 2nd half as being the (Great Tribulation) where most all of the fallen angels, and Nephilum = angel offspring with women will be sent to the earth. This is not only the ones that are still alive, but also the spirits of all that have died. This could be massive amounts of evil spirits, considering that this includes the ones from before the flood.
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What is AC electricity, + how is it made, out of rotations of a coil of wire through a magnetic field right, + a set of varying sized pulleys, can be easily used to multiply the total # of rotations. This is one free energy technology that we all will need and love = no cost, fuel or exhaust. So,,, why haven't we figured this simple little bit of technology. Can you believe the power of evil spirits, to be able to dumb down a whole population of humans. Think this may be a reason to find God http://beliefstoliveby.yolasite.com/
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http://free-energy.yolasite.com/
Do you want to hear how super simple this technology is,
Where you only pay to crank over one time, the DC motor + one 100 cm circumference pulley,
Then you use the 100 cm of moving belt off this large pulley circumference ,
+ run it past 10 mini-pulleys of only one centimeter circumferences,
All that you have to do is add AC generators to these 10 mini-pulleys,
Giving you a free return of 10X100=1000 cycles of AC electricity.
That's one small pulse of DC current as an input, returning you 1000 cycles of AC electricity,
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You are using the dirt simple laws of pulley mechanics to multiply rotations,
+ since AC electricity is generated by simple rotations
Believe it or not, you are using this pulley mechanics, to freely multiply your AC electricity
+ you could easily multiply your AC cycles of electricity
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IT IS TRULLY THAT SIMPLE..................................
You are using simple Pulley mechanics to multiply AC electricity cycles
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And don't you believe that torque is a problem,
You have 10 X 100 = 1000 cycles of AC electricity,
To make up the one spark of DC current that you need,
That this DC drive motor needs to be cranked over the one time,
Giving you the 100 cm of moving belt = off 100 cm circumference,
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This motor – generator power system is self powering,
It can do this by creating massively more electrical power from your many # of AC cycles,
That you can produce from your many AC generators, attached to many of these mini-pulleys,
Which are so easy to rotate, because it does not take 100 times more power to rotate a large pulley,
Yet this large pulley gives you 100 cm of moving belt off one single rotation,
Which by passing by 10 mini-pulleys with AC generators, can produce 10X100=1000 cycles of AC electricity, thereby multiplying your total amount of cycles of AC electricity,
By only needing a miniscule amount of DC current to rotate only once,
+ producing as many thousands of cycles of AC electricity, as you added the # of mini-pulleys,
With AC generators attached
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CAN YOU BELIEVE HOW SIMPLE THIS TRULY IS
+ how powerful this spiritual warfare must be,
to be able to hide this super simple AC multiplier from us gullible humans..............
We can use pulley mechanics to freely multiply rotations,
Thereby we are using pulley mechanics to multiply cycles of AC electricity
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I don't know about you, but I was amazed at how simple this preschool way of using pulleys to multiply your # of rotations, thereby multiplying AC electricity by using this simple pulley technology. And can you believe the power of evil forces, to be able to hide this super simple way of using pulleys to multiply the total # of rotations, or AC electricity. For how long,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Think about this, for how long have they been able to hide this free AC multiplying technology,,,,
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The thing is, that there is the most powerful spiritual warfare going on about this simple free energy technology, and evil forces will immediately start confronting you as soon as you start looking into this. I can be sure that evil forces will whisper in your ear, many ways that this cannot possibly work. For why should evil spirits want us to be able to stop buying oil, from nations that in one way or another tend to promote terrorist, and their careless destructive ways. I believe that God gave me this technology back in the early 2000's when He first gave me a Vision of a 10 speed bicycle going uphill in 10th gear, and then back downhill in 1st. This is very significant where AC electricity is concerned, where you may need massive voltage, to crank over the pedals on the way up, but it costs way less current, as the motor runs for only a few rotation. Then when you run the bicycle down the hill in 1st gear, you would be winding over your AC generators massive amounts of time. Please remember that AC electricity is generate through rotations of a coil of wire through a magnetic field, and the more rotations means more AC electricity.
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http://possibletimingfortribulation.yolasite.com/
here is one of the forums that my GEM pulley free energy
http://doorschristmustpassthrough.yolasite.com/
http://evotutionfairytale.yolasite.com/
http://possibletimingfortribulation.yolasite.com/
here is one of the forums that my GEM pulley free energy
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(here is a picture that shows basic idea of this GEM tech)
(but the small pulleys should be much smaller + 1-3 not 4)
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Come on Canadians,,,
Come on Nova Scotia,,,
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This is where this GEM-(Geometrical Electricity Multiplier) technology of free energy for the End Times was 1st started. Let's get out there and start taking advantage of it, by not only building GEM units to power all of our electric tools, toys + gadgets, but we could be starting companies that have electric appliances, utensils, devices, tools, toys, + gadgets with these GEM perpetual power supplies built into them, (let's start letting electricity generate itself) + on our labels we could even proudly say "FIGHTING TERRORISM + FIGHTING POLLUTION"
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COME ON,,, ALL OF YOU BACK YARD MECHANICS,,,
Get some AC + DC motors together of the same voltage, and start building these GEM free energy power supplies,, + not only for 1.5, 3, 6 + 9 volt batteries, but household 120, + 12 volt, for powering these new electric cars. Let's throw the oil companies the bird, + maybe even make money with them, by throwing any excess power from these perpetually running energy generators that we have the time, + small amount of money to purchase parts to build. Think of it as not only keeping money in your pocket, but you are keeping money from the countries that fund terrorist. This is not to mention the experimenting that we could be doing with the anti-gravity + speeds approaching light speed. Now I know that there are many out there like me, that would enjoy knowing how one type of this motor was powering a UFO in the Bible, in Ezekiel 1:16.
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Although we are warned "but of that day and hour knoweth no man"(Mat 24:36), we are also assured that we can "know that it is near, even at the doors", (Mat 24:33) Where the door closes on the Prophecy when it can no longer be fulfilled. My name is Joe, and I now live at a nursing home in Nova Scotia, and if you can find me an electronic simulator that I can use, I will show you how this free energy technology can and will work for man, instead of man having to work for energy. In any case, please let me show you how all of the barriers can be overcome, instead of taking Satan's words for it, when he or the billions of evil spirits throw excuses at you, for why this will never work. My email is one_christian_warrior@yahoo.ca
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http://free-energy.yolasite.com/
http://my2020vision.yolasite.com/
http://beliefstoliveby.yolasite.com/
http://fire-starter.yolasite.com/
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This pulley technology works,,,
Here are a few of ideas that others have,
Knowing or not knowing that it is based on the same GEM technology
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but just watch + learn THESE DO INDEED WORK
GEM technology is true free energy, except for that former President,
That switched the patent law to be more accessible to others
+ In theirs it only has one mini-pulley, + not 3 or 10 like in mine
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjN1refTtHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ZGOgcZp_g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD2GrpBIMXc&t
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+ you can be sure that more people will come out with their own GEM tech
mankind will hopefully move quickly with this new found pulley technology
where in no time, people will be starting up factories to add this free energy tech
to all electronics + electric mechanisms + yes, even automobiles,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
can you imagine cars that don't cost any fuel to travel, any amount of distance you want
+ think of how the cost of everything will go down, with no fuel costs to transport stuff,,,,,,,,
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PLEASE DON'T FORGET, THIS FREE ENERGY MECHANISM WAS FOUND POWERING A UFO
in Ezekiel 1:16, so we need to experiment with this tech, + see how it can be used in levitation

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on June 17, 2017, 11:12:44 AM

Beautiful website :D
http://pme.webjet.sk/produkty/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on June 17, 2017, 11:18:48 AM

I made a Question and I again!
Can somebody put schematic or explain how to connect those tree wire of the bifilar coil, the way as in OZONE PATENT.
Something like this... but no sure! :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on June 17, 2017, 08:30:42 PM

Spin-field Generator :)

https://vasantcorporation.com/downloads/delayed_lenzs_law_04-27-2014.pps

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on June 18, 2017, 06:18:16 AM

this GEM technology has everything to do with this subject,
I use pulleys to multiply AC electricity,

. This GEM = (Geometrical Electricity Multiplication) technology is super simple, http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ and is based on basic pulley mechanics. In it, you pay a small amount of DC electricity to rotate a large 100 cm circumference pulley one single time, (one mere spark). Then you run the 100 cm of moving belt, (off the 100 cm of circumference) past a mini-pulley of only one centimeter circumference, giving you 100 rotations, which you covert into 100 cycles of AC electricity, by simply adding an AC generator to it. You are merely using the 100 cm of belt that you get off the single rotation of a 100 cm circumference + by running this length of belt by a 1 cm circumference pulley, with an AC generator attached.
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. Now, you have just multiplied your single burst of DC current into 100 cycles of AC electricity. Please don't listen to the mythical torque problem, because there is no torque problem. This AC generator is running practically torque free, because all that it has to generate is the single burst of DC current that your DC drive motor takes to make one rotation. And please remember, that you get 100 cycles of AC electricity to generate this single "spark" of DC current to power your drive motor, so this is generating practically zero current, divided by 100.
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. If you run wires from your AC generator output, + put them into the input of a full wave bridge rectifier,(4 diodes) + then run wires from the DC output of your full wave bridge rectifier, into the input of your DC drive motor, you should have a working mechanism. This perpetual free energy generator mechanism is complete, + you should be able to start it running by merely rotating the large pulley by hand, a quarter turn.
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. You must have your AC generator + your DC drive motor of the same voltage.
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. This is so simple + cheap to build guys + gals, please build one to prove it works,,,
I live in a nursing home, so I cannot even have the simple tools to build this with. This is so dirt simple + easy to build, that satan is laughing his as? Off, at how gullible we simple humans are. But he will get his just deserts, when Jesus returns in His Glory, before the second door close on 2025.94 = 2019.04(door for rapture) + 6.9(7 Hebrew years = 2520 days) http://doorschristmustpassthrough.yolasite.com/
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Quote from: Erfinder on May 25, 2017, 05:43:19 AM
that_prophet,

delete your post, it has absolutely nothing to do with the subject.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: blueplanet on June 18, 2017, 06:47:59 AM

Quote from: that_prophet on June 18, 2017, 06:18:16 AM
this GEM technology has everything to do with this subject,
I use pulleys to multiply AC electricity,

. This GEM = (Geometrical Electricity Multiplication) technology is super simple, http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ (http://free-energy.yolasite.com/) and is based on basic pulley mechanics. In it, you pay a small amount of DC electricity to rotate a large 100 cm circumference pulley one single time, (one mere spark). Then you run the 100 cm of moving belt, (off the 100 cm of circumference) past a mini-pulley of only one centimeter circumference, giving you 100 rotations, which you covert into 100 cycles of AC electricity, by simply adding an AC generator to it. You are merely using the 100 cm of belt that you get off the single rotation of a 100 cm circumference + by running this length of belt by a 1 cm circumference pulley, with an AC generator attached.
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. Now, you have just multiplied your single burst of DC current into 100 cycles of AC electricity. Please don't listen to the mythical torque problem, because there is no torque problem. This AC generator is running practically torque free, because all that it has to generate is the single burst of DC current that your DC drive motor takes to make one rotation. And please remember, that you get 100 cycles of AC electricity to generate this single "spark" of DC current to power your drive motor, so this is generating practically zero current, divided by 100.
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. If you run wires from your AC generator output, + put them into the input of a full wave bridge rectifier,(4 diodes) + then run wires from the DC output of your full wave bridge rectifier, into the input of your DC drive motor, you should have a working mechanism. This perpetual free energy generator mechanism is complete, + you should be able to start it running by merely rotating the large pulley by hand, a quarter turn.
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. You must have your AC generator + your DC drive motor of the same voltage.
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. This is so simple + cheap to build guys + gals, please build one to prove it works,,,
I live in a nursing home, so I cannot even have the simple tools to build this with. This is so dirt simple + easy to build, that satan is laughing his as? Off, at how gullible we simple humans are. But he will get his just deserts, when Jesus returns in His Glory, before the second door close on 2025.94 = 2019.04(door for rapture) + 6.9(7 Hebrew years = 2520 days) http://doorschristmustpassthrough.yolasite.com/ (http://doorschristmustpassthrough.yolasite.com/)
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You are saying the DC spark can be make a difference in terms of the torque produced by the AC generator. Do you have any idea how to create this DC spark without consumption of too much energy?
I presume one spark is not enough. Do we need to fire a number of this spark periodically to sustain the energy supply?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: v8karlo on June 18, 2017, 10:50:52 AM

TITO! , I have question for you if you can help. I don't wanna know how your device is working. My question is about something else.
Your device magnify power. So when you feedback in next cycle you get more and more. In number of cycles it will grow sky high and fry everything. How did you prevent it from going disaster high?
Zener is ok for smaller values. Spark gap maybe, but the output then will flicker alot!
I cannot find any good solution, so can you help me?
Please no riddles! If you know answer and can help just do it!

Thanks!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 18, 2017, 05:39:25 PM

I don't have the solution you need ...but I know some old guys were using a mass of iron to control the feedback. When the iron mass saturate it will change the characteristic of device and limit the output to almost zero. Today it will maybe need a better core...For air core there is a problem.
I think that even large electric generators are using this trick indirectly (because we still believe they convert one form of energy into another :o [size=78%])[/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on June 18, 2017, 07:41:27 PM

V8 karlo asked this - - -

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TITO! , I have question for you if you can help

Quote from: forest on June 18, 2017, 05:39:25 PM
I don't have the solution you need ...but I know some old guys were using a mass of iron to control the feedback. :o [size=78%])[/size]

Huh....interesting....Tito replies as his alter ego Forest despite previously lying and saying he only uses the one name. Pathetic. You constantly lie and use at least 7 other aliases here. Did you forget to change back to your Tito name? You really have mental illness. Years of stupid 'clues' that go nowhere and yet you have nothing yourself. The IP addresses don't lie.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 19, 2017, 01:43:35 AM

just don't listen to endlessoceans

he is a troll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 19, 2017, 01:20:47 PM

Quote from: forest on June 18, 2017, 05:39:25 PM
I don't have the solution you need ...but I know some old guys were using a mass of iron to control the feedback. When the iron mass saturate it will change the characteristic of device and limit the output to almost zero. Today it will maybe need a better core...For air core there is a problem.
I think that even large electric generators are using this trick indirectly (because we still believe they convert one form of energy into another :o [size=78%])[/size]

Interesting. I remember reading a man from New Zealand who was instructed by Stan Meyer. I think he was talking about a similar feedback approach to create a standing wave in a toroid core that could be tapped without affecting the primary.

I agree with you on converting from one form of energy to another. Many COP>1 devices involve a change of energetic state. For example, from liquid to gas and back to liquid (as in refrigeration unit), from aether to magneto-dielectric, from magnetic flux to useable charge...
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on June 19, 2017, 09:20:50 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on June 19, 2017, 01:20:47 PM

1) I think he was talking about a similar feedback approach to create a standing wave in a toroid core that could be tapped without affecting the primary.

2) Many COP>1 devices involve a change of energetic state. For example, from liquid to gas and back to liquid (as in refrigeration unit), from aether to magneto-dielectric, from magnetic flux to useable charge...
Bob

All due respect Bob

Point 2) Many Cop>1 devices you say? How many of these Cop>1 devices have you seen or have been verified? I have seen 99% efficient devices that APPEAR OU.....but they are not. 99% efficiency and recycling will do an incredible amount of work that appears OU.

You use the refrigeration cycle as example.....here again previously erroneously stated as OU when it is not. VERY efficient yes. But do you ever end up with more gas than what you started with after all the compressions and decompressions?? err NO. And thank goodness for that. ::) ::) ::) ::)

Very few people are following scientific method on this site. If you don't you will never find truth or make advancement.

This site just has people making stupid half informed claims and then to add insult to injury they post 'informative links' to websites that have malware and are hacker sites. Forest loves posting those. Incredible how many gullible people here just lap it all up without asking a single question

Want the truth? go to the bench and you will see some amazing things

What is the Scientific Method?

The scientific method is a process for experimentation that is used to explore observations and answer questions. Does this mean all scientists follow exactly this process? No. Some areas of science can be more easily tested than others. For example, scientists studying how stars change as they age or how dinosaurs digested their food cannot fast-forward a star's life by a million years or run medical exams on feeding dinosaurs to test their hypotheses. When direct experimentation is not possible, scientists modify the scientific method. In fact, there are probably as many versions of the scientific method as there are scientists! But even when modified, the goal remains the same: to discover cause and effect relationships by asking questions, carefully gathering and examining the evidence, and seeing if all the available information can be combined in to a logical answer.

Even though we show the scientific method as a series of steps, keep in mind that new information or thinking might cause a scientist to back up and repeat steps at any point during the process. A process like the scientific method that involves such backing up and repeating is called an iterative process.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 20, 2017, 01:16:14 PM

Notice I used the term "COP>1" rather than "overunity." Within a closed system, there can be no overunity. However, with open systems, it is a different story. I would argue that change of state can involve outside forces (though not always), which can under certain conditions render a COP>1. The prevailing scientific method typically considers efficiency within a closed system paradigm. While its methodology and rigor have their importance and merits, I cannot embrace it in its totality as the only viable means for evaluating COP, based on what I have seen in my own experiments and those of others. I guess we'll have to respectfully agree to disagree.
Bob[/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 22, 2017, 03:38:05 AM

Hi everyone please listen.
FIRST OF ALL I DID NOT MADE ANY MONEY HERE OKAY? :)

i don't feel very good every time now a days. because of my asthma. :(

I THINK JUST FOR THE SAKE OF MANKIND

here is the real thing, study it everyone and share it and enjoy it SCALE IT THINK BIG AND DIFFERENT. :)

To someone that i made mad, I'M VERY sorry, i apologize.
To everyone, thank YOU for accommodating me here. :)
and here finally my GOODBYE. :(

GOD BLESS YOU ALL
LOVE YOUR SOUL, STUDY THE BIBLE. :)
SALVATION IS SIMPLE AND FREE. ALWAYS HUMBLE YOURSELF BEFORE THE LORD. :)
HOW TO BE SAVED???
MAKE A DECISION!
JUST PRAY, ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR MAKE SORRY FOR YOUR SINS.
NOTE: THE LORD KNOWS THE TRUTH IN YOUR HEART OK.
HE KNOWS EVERYTHING IN YOU!
HE KNOW IF ONE IS REAL OR NOT, NO ONE CAN HIDE ANYTHING.

AND THAT'S THE WHOLE TRUTH. HAVE FAITH ITS THE SECRET :)

BYE NOW.
http://presscore.ca/harnessing-200-volts-positive-of-free-unlimited-and-unmetered-pure-electrical-energy (http://presscore.ca/harnessing-200-volts-positive-of-free-unlimited-and-unmetered-pure-electrical-energy)

GOD BLESS
YOUR LOVING FRIEND OTIT :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on June 22, 2017, 09:59:02 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 22, 2017, 03:38:05 AM
Hi everyone please listen.
FIRST OF ALL I DID NOT MADE ANY MONEY HERE OKAY? :)

i don't feel very good every time now a days. because of my asthma. :(

I THINK JUST FOR THE SAKE OF MANKIND

here is the real thing, study it everyone and share it and enjoy it SCALE IT THINK BIG AND DIFFERENT. :)

To someone that i made mad, I'M VERY sorry, i apologize.
To everyone, thank YOU for accommodating me here. :)
and here finally my GOODBYE. :(

GOD BLESS YOU ALL
LOVE YOUR SOUL, STUDY THE BIBLE. :)
SALVATION IS SIMPLE AND FREE. ALWAYS HUMBLE YOURSELF BEFORE THE LORD. :)
HOW TO BE SAVED???
MAKE A DECISION!
JUST PRAY, ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR MAKE SORRY FOR YOUR SINS.
NOTE: THE LORD KNOWS THE TRUTH IN YOUR HEART OK.
HE KNOWS EVERYTHING IN YOU!
HE KNOW IF ONE IS REAL OR NOT, NO ONE CAN HIDE ANYTHING.

AND THAT'S THE WHOLE TRUTH. HAVE FAITH ITS THE SECRET :)

BYE NOW.
http://presscore.ca/harnessing-200-volts-positive-of-free-unlimited-and-unmetered-pure-electrical-energy (http://presscore.ca/harnessing-200-volts-positive-of-free-unlimited-and-unmetered-pure-electrical-energy)

GOD BLESS
YOUR LOVING FRIEND OTIT :)

OTIT MY BROTHER,

DO NOT LET US :-[

I WILL PRAY FOR YOU! :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on June 22, 2017, 10:10:55 PM

GOD BE WITH YOU TITO. PLEASE PRAY AND PRAY ALWAYS. GOD IS TESTING US ALL..
IT IS IN THE LORD PRAYER.. ' LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL..
BE ALWAYS THANK FULL FOR THESE WORDS---[ PRIVILEGE OF EXISTENCE.] WE ARE ALL
HERE TO CELEBRATE THE CREATION OF THE WHOLE UNIVERSE. AMEN

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on August 26, 2017, 11:12:13 AM

TIME IS SHORT = the Pre-Trib Rapture + the infamous 7 year Peace Treaty with Israel MUST START before this 1ST DOOR closes on 2019.04 = Jan 14th http://my2020vision.yolasite.com/ - "know that it is near, even at the doors",(Mat 24:33) http://doorschristmustpassthrough.yolasite.com/.
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Free Energy + perpetual motion can be easily produced using pulleys, costing only the minuscule bit of power that it takes to rotate a DC motor with a large 100 cm circumference pulley one single time. You can gain or multiply massive amounts of AC electricity using mini-pulleys with AC generators. You are capable of doing this by running this long length of belt, (off the circumference of large pulley) past a few 1 cm circumference mini-pulleys, with AC generators attached. This GEM-(Geometrical Electricity Multiplier) device is gaining you 100 cycles of AC electricity, for every mini-pulley that you choose to attach to this sane belt. So, if you added 10 mini-pulleys, you could get a return of 1000=10X100 cycles of AC electricity, and all costing you only one mere spark of DC current. How could you not be multiplying AC electricity, when you are using simple pulley mechanics to trade one spark of DC current, for 100-1000 cycles of AC electricity-(duel sparks).
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This super simple free energy technology: http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ works on the ability of combinations of pulleys being able to easily + freely multiply your total # of rotations. You can do this because of the fact that you don't have to expend 100 times more electricity to rotate a large 100 cm circumference pulley, than it takes to rotate a 1 cm circumference mini-pulley. Yet if you run the 100 cm of moving belt, that comes off the one rotation of a large 100 cm pulley, past any # of mini-pulleys of 1 cm, then you could gain a return of 100 rotations for every mini-pulley that you choose to attach to the same belt. (As for torque, it only comes from generating power, and power is voltage multiplied by current) + We only need to produce one single spark of DC current to make this a self-powering mechanism. So one spark of DC current, (which is practically nothing) multiplied by even massive voltage, would still equal practically zero power, which takes practically zero torque to rotate.
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This multiplication of rotations could be extremely helpful, if you only added AC generators to these mini-pulleys, you could be multiplying the total cycles of AC electricity. This AC generator takes no torque to rotate, because although it would be winding up massive voltage, it does not need to be winding up practically any current-(1 mere spark) which is practically zero. Torque is only caused when you are generating power, and you are generating practically zero power, as power is equal to voltage times current. So, no matter how massive of voltage you are generating, it is multiplied by practically zero current, as we only need one spark of current, or practically zero. This works because zero times anything is still equal to zero, and practically zero works the same way.
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What is AC electricity, + how is it made = it is made out of the easy rotations of coils of wire through a magnetic field of two oppositely positioned magnets right. Using pulley technology, we can easily + freely convert one rotation of a large 100 cm circumference pulley, into 100 rotations of as many 1 cm circumference mini-pulleys that we choose to attach to the same belt that comes off of your large pulley. So, if you added 10 mini-pulleys to this same belt, and added AC generators to each mini-pulley, you could gain you 1000 = 100X10 cycles of AC electricity.
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All these cycles of AC electricity are from the single burst of DC electricity, which is the small amount of current that a DC motor takes to rotate one single time =(one mere spark). These cycles of AC electricity would cost practically zero torque to rotate, as torque is only caused when you are generating power, and you are not generating practically any power in this system. This is because although you may be winding up massive voltage,(electrical pressure) to keep this GEM mechanism running, you only need to generate one single spark of DC current, and P=IV, or power equals current multiplied by voltage.
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So your total power output would be practically zero current multiplied by any amount of voltage, which would still be equal to practically zero power, taking practically zero torque. So, you could be easily + freely generating massive amounts of rotations of these mini-pulleys, which are generating you massive voltage, or the ability/potential to gain plenty of current, which will allow you to produce plenty of power. This is because the greater the voltage/pressure, the greater the ease that there is to generate more current. PLEASE,,, let me show you how ridiculous this mythical torque problem really is. Do you think that the 100 cycles of AC electricity would have a hard time producing the single spark of DC current, which is all that you need to crank over your DC motor once, with your 100 cm circumference pulley attached?
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Mankind was given the best Gift from God, (other than Jesus) http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ right here in Atlantic Canada + just before the infamous 7 years Peace Treaty. This seven years of time, which the 2nd half of is the Great Tribulation, is when this GEM tech will be needed most. This will be the worst time for earth, where not only is there constant war, but most all of the evil fallen angels, and the Nephilum , will be sent to the earth. Nephilum are the offspring of fallen angels + human women, as angels are all male, because God only wanted there to be a set # of angels. This is not only the ones that are still alive, but also the spirits of all that have died. This could be massive amounts of evil spirits, considering that this includes the ones from before the flood. (How can we be billions of years old, when the moon will leave orbit within 10,000 years) + all orbiting bodies will have messed up orbits, because of this yearly amount of space debris adding mass.
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This is free energy technology, which we all will need and love, as it has practically no cost to run, and there is no need for any fuel to be purchased. Nor would there be any exhaust to cause environmental or noise pollution. So,,, why haven't we figured this simple little bit of technology out long ago? Evil spirits are, and have been hiding this simple technology from mankind. These AC generators are extremely easy to rotate, because the only resistance torque,(other than the viscosity of the lubricant in the bearings) would come from a great need for current, which would practically never happen, especially when you are dealing with such small amounts of power as the example that I describe here.
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I confirmed that this free energy technology, discovered in the early 2000's, was from God + not from evil forces, by finding it in a UFO motor description in Ezekiel 1:16. Thankfully, there are many ways that we can freely multiply the total # of rotations, like a set of varied sized pulleys, can be easily used to multiply the total # of rotations. Then, by simply adding an AC generator to your mini-pulley, you can convert your rotations into cycles of AC electricity.
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This is one super simple GEM of an idea, and it is made from pre-school technology, so why was this not out long ago. Can you believe the power that evil spirits have, to be able to dumb down a whole population of humans + for so long. I still have problems getting people to believe that there is no torque problem. Think that this may actually be a good enough reason for you to find out if GOD IS REAL = http://beliefstoliveby.yolasite.com/ + if HE IS RETURNING SOON = http://my2020vision.yolasite.com/
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Do you want to hear how truly super simple this technology is, Where you only pay to crank over the DC motor one time, with a 100 cm circumference pulley, Then you use the 100 cm of moving belt off this large pulley circumference, + run it past one or more mini-pulleys of only one centimeter circumferences, All that you have to do is add an AC generator to these mini-pulleys, giving you a free return of 100's of cycles of AC electricity. That's one small pulse of DC current as an input, returning you 100 cycles of AC electricity output, How can you not multiply your AC electricity, with this rotation multiplication technology
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IT IS TRULLY THAT SIMPLE
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Come on Canadians,,,
Come on Nova Scotia,,,
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This is where this GEM-(Geometrical Electricity Multiplier) technology of free energy for the End Times was 1st started, (early 2000's when He first shared this with me). Let's get out there and start taking advantage of it, by not only building GEM units to power all of our electric tools, toys + gadgets, but we could be starting companies that have electric appliances, utensils, devices, tools, toys, + gadgets with these GEM perpetual power supplies built into them, (let's start letting electricity generate itself) + on our labels we could even proudly say "FIGHTING TERRORISM + FIGHTING POLLUTION"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pulp on August 26, 2017, 11:13:01 AM

Bs. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on August 26, 2017, 11:13:08 AM

PROOF OF CREATION + A YOUNG EARTH = (space dust) has mass + billions of years of dust would add up eventually + mess up the orbits of all planets + moons. We could measure the amount of dust on the moon, and divide the total by the amount of dust that is deposited every year, coming up with an age for the moon, and thereby finding out the age of our earth. Most of us have seen pictures of the moon landing, and realize that there is only a few centimeters, meaning that by the deposit of space dust, the moon has only been orbiting us for a few thousand years. Less than 10,000 year
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COME ON,,, ALL OF YOU BACK YARD MECHANICS,,, Get some AC + DC motors together of the same voltage, and start building these GEM free energy power supplies,, + not only for 1.5, 3, 6, 9 + 12 volt batteries, but household 120 volt, + 12 volt, to powering these new electric cars. Let's throw the oil companies out of work, producing toxic smoke + maybe even make money with them, by throwing any excess power from these perpetually running energy generators that we have the time, + small amount of money to purchase parts to build. Think of it as not only keeping money in your pocket, but you are keeping money from the countries that either fund terrorist, or which are unknowingly funding them. This is not to mention the experimenting that we could be doing with the anti-gravity + speeds approaching light speed. Now I know that there are many out there like me, which would enjoy knowing how one type of this motor was powering a UFO in the Bible, in Ezekiel 1:16. http://aliensandghosts.yolasite.com/
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Most people have heard that the "day + hour knoweth no man"-(Mat 24:36), but why does nobody mention the soon arriving doors that we are not only allowed to know, but in the original Greek, it is worded like a command = "know that it is near, even at the doors",,, + that 1st Door will close on 2019.04 + the last Door will close on 2025.94. So we are guaranteed that Jesus will set His foot on the Mount of Olives before the year 2026.
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Did you ever wonder how you could know that it's near, if we can't know the day. Near to what then, maybe it's near to the door/deadline = "know that it is near, even at the doors" Mat 24:33. Doors are plural, because of the two appearances of Jesus, the first is in the clouds,(Rapture) http://rapturequestion.yolasite.com/ before the 7 year peace treaty is signed + then His second arrival is as His Foot touches earth, on the Mount of Olives. DOOR = (this is not the date of His Arrival, which we are warned that nobody can know, but this is the date that Christ must return before) A day that the Tribulation Saints will not only know, but they will probably being counting down the days until. = (He Returns when the 7 year peace treaty ends)
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EVil-sOLUTION = isn't it amazing what Truth can be revealed, when the "il-s" of life are included. http://decimationofthisevolutionfairytale.yolasite.com/
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I can give you a free to run, perpetual power supply = http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ This GEM mechanism can do this because of how AC electricity is created by rotations. as in the more rotations the greater amount of AC electricity, and pulleys can be used to multiply rotations. So, you are using pulley mechanics to multiply your total amount of AC electricity, by trading one rotation of a large 100 cm circumference pulley, into 100 rotations of as many 1 cm circumference pulleys as you choose to add to the same belt. If you add AC generators to these mini-pulleys then you could be multiplying AC electricity. If you added 4 of these mini-pulleys with AC generators attached, you would gain 400 cycles of AC electricity, and all for the single burst of DC current, the minute amount of current that a DC motor takes to rotate one single time.
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These mini-pulleys would be easy to rotate, as the only resistance that they would generate, would be caused by any power that they were generating. These mini-pulleys would only be winding up massive voltages, because the only current needed to rotate your large 100 cm pulley on a DC motor, is one simple spark, or short burst, the amount to rotate your large pulley only one single time. Torque is only caused when you are generating power, and power is generated by current multiplied by voltage. Since we only need one single spark of current, (practically zero) the total amount of power being generated would still be practically zero, costing practically zero torque.
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This was given to mankind before the first door closes = http://my2020vision.yolasite.com/
Especially for the soon coming Tribulation Saints http://doorschristmustpassthrough.yolasite.com/
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Sorry if it offends you, that I add a little bit of Biblical stuff in my explanations, but when I came up with this super simple idea, it was just after asking God for a way to help the Tribulation Saints. Just think about how super simple this AC electricity multiplier truly is, and how the voices in your head tell you that it cannot work. When how much more simple can it be, then to only pay for the one rotation of a large 100 cm pulley, when you can get a return of 100 cycle of AC electricity, for every 1 cm mini-pulley that you attach to the same belt, (with AC generators attached). Yes that's an input of one single spark of DC current, returning you 100 cycles of AC electricity for every mini-pulley that you attach to the same belt. If you only added 4 mini-pulleys, you would get a return of 40 cycles of AC electricity. Please remember, that there is a most powerful spiritual warfare going on over this GEM technology.
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There is a most powerful spiritual warfare going on over this GEM technology. Can you believe the problems that I have had, getting this super simple way of using pulleys to multiply the total amount of AC cycles of electricity? I think that it's totally ridiculous, when you truly take a close look at it. Pulleys can be used to multiply the # of rotations, and AC electricity is made of rotations of a coil through a magnetic field. It should be dirt simple, as you are using pulleys to multiply your total # of rotations, and AC electricity is made of rotations, so you are effectively multiplying AC electricity. .

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pulp on August 26, 2017, 11:14:42 AM

Bs. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on August 26, 2017, 11:48:00 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on August 26, 2017, 11:49:27 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on September 24, 2017, 10:27:25 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on May 19, 2017, 03:21:45 PM

First, the cap is charged (by the supply) when the controller is open. The current charging the capacitor moves through a circuit which includes the motor windings, and primary of the transformer......Doh! The cap discharge (at switch closure) is NOT the only current exciting the transformer!!!!!
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Regards

guys, i need your help about this:

'' is NOT the only current exciting the transformer!!!!! ''

assuming that we have two currents exciting the transformer?

very puzzling for me!! and fascinating stuff dont you think?

thanks and regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on September 25, 2017, 03:01:06 AM

Free Energy is so simple that it can be generate with a large pulley attached to a DC motor, at least one mini-pulley connected to an AC generator of the same voltage, 4 diodes, some wire to connect your electrical components together, and a belt to connect the two pulleys together.
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The way this works, is that you are using the 100 cm of moving belt off of one rotation of your large 100 cm circumference, which does not cost 100 times more power to rotate, yet if you run this 100 cm of moving belt past a 1 cm circumference pulley, you would get 100 cycles of AC electricity.
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The best part about this is, you can get a return of 100 cycles of AC electricity for as many mini-pulleys that choose to attach to the same belt. These mini-pulleys + AC generators would run freely, because although you are winding up massive voltage, you only need to generate the one spark of DC current. Torque is caused when generating power, and power is calculated by multiplying voltage times current, so even though you are winding up massive voltage, it is multiplied by practically zero current, so in the end you are generating practically zero power, costing practically zero torque.
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You are seemingly cheating the laws of thermodynamics by using pulley mechanics to multiply the # of rotations, and then by adding an AC generator, you are actually multiplying AC cycles of electricity. The AC generator is running very free, as it is only winding up massive voltage, as it only needs to generate one mere spark of DC current, just enough to rotate your DC motor + large 100 cm pulley the one single time.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 25, 2017, 04:26:03 AM

Watch Ismael Aviso videos

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 25, 2017, 04:28:53 AM

Actually what Erfinder said may be also another effect but not described clearly by Tesla. Sorry, I can't tell you any details. Tesla worked like 3 to 5 years before he was able to step up to the Colorado Springs tests.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 25, 2017, 07:03:00 AM

Quote from: forest on September 25, 2017, 04:26:03 AM
Watch Ismael Aviso videos

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o :o :o ::) ::) ::)

Yeh sure Tito!! LOL Why would anyone waste time watching that. Poor old Ismael has soo much free energy he has to spend time selling cancer healing bogus water to make money. Oh wait....its all those men in black that scared him away from his project!!! hahaha

Such ridiculous Nonsense

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 25, 2017, 07:06:43 AM

Quote from: that_prophet on August 26, 2017, 11:13:08 AM

I came up with this super simple idea, it was just after asking God for a way to help the Tribulation Saints. Just think about how super simple this AC electricity multiplier truly is, and how the voices in your head tell you that it cannot work. When how much more simple can it be, then to only pay for the one rotation of a large 100 cm pulley, when you can get a return of 100 cycle of AC electricity, for every 1 cm mini-pulley that you attach to the same belt, (with AC generators attached). Yes that's an input of one single spark of DC current, returning you 100 cycles of AC electricity for every mini-pulley that you attach to the same belt. If you only added 4 mini-pulleys, you would get a return of 40 cycles of AC electricity. Please remember, that there is a most powerful spiritual warfare going on over this GEM technology.
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There is a most powerful spiritual warfare going on over this GEM technology. Can you believe the problems that I have had, getting this super simple way o .

You are amazing That Prophet!!! Please tell us more about what those voices in your head said!!!!! Tito is that you?? LOLL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on September 25, 2017, 12:47:52 PM

Dear Sir,

Since we have at least two current exciting the transformer,

one current is produced from capacitor discharge, then where did the other current came from?

Thanks and Regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on September 25, 2017, 01:23:54 PM

Hello Again,

i find that patent:
N Tesla
'' ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT CONTROLLER '' US patent n 609 245

its the same circuit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why its used for the circuit controller?

where the cap is charged in LC series circuit and may be discharged in parallel LC?

But i cant see the other current exciting the transformer???

very puzzling....

Thanks and Regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 25, 2017, 01:46:27 PM

Quote from: luc2010 on September 25, 2017, 01:23:54 PM
Hello Again,

i find that patent:
N Tesla
'' ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT CONTROLLER '' US patent n 609 245

its the same circuit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why its used for the circuit controller?

where the cap is charged in LC series circuit and may be discharged in parallel LC?

But i cant see the other current exciting the transformer???

very puzzling....

Thanks and Regards
luc2010

The same circuit ? Compared to what ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on September 25, 2017, 05:17:57 PM

Quote from: forest on September 25, 2017, 01:46:27 PM

The same circuit ? Compared to what ?

Hello My Friend Forest,

I think, Its the same circuit compared to ozone patent? .. why?

very puzzling!!

Thanks and Regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on September 25, 2017, 09:46:02 PM

One more question? Please

its possible to make high frequency using DC motor?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: web000x on September 26, 2017, 07:06:26 AM

Quote from: luc2010 on September 25, 2017, 12:47:52 PM
Dear Sir,

Since we have at least two current exciting the transformer,

one current is produced from capacitor discharge, then where did the other current came from?

Thanks and Regards
luc2010

Maybe the other current is from charging the capacitor.. Series charging circuit and parallel discharging circuit.

Dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on September 26, 2017, 08:52:16 AM

Quote from: web000x on September 26, 2017, 07:06:26 AM

Maybe the other current is from charging the capacitor.. Series charging circuit and parallel discharging circuit.

Dave

Hello Dave,

NO,
deos that makes any sens?

Please,
what You think about that?

Quote from: luc2010 on September 25, 2017, 09:46:02 PM
One more question? Please

its possible to make high frequency using DC motor?

Thanks & Regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on September 30, 2017, 10:26:04 PM

Hello Mr Erfinder,

i am trying to replicate tesla ozone patent.

questions? if you dont mind

1) can we use just any ordinary DC motor or it must be a brush motor, in this setup?
2) the switch ( circuit controller)? its not clear how its works?

Thanks and Regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: profitis on October 03, 2017, 01:19:28 PM

"There is a most powerful spiritual warfare going on"

Lol AGAINST oil AND national security?.I'm canning myself here

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 03, 2017, 02:44:56 PM

In every Tesla patents there is a strange comment which is understood only by those skilled in art , who replicated his device. For example in ozone patent he mentioned "other usage" which is what Stanley Meyer re-used to split water.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: web000x on October 03, 2017, 10:13:56 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 03, 2017, 02:21:04 AM
IF you are "replicating", then the answer to this first question is obvious.....What type of motor did Tesla demonstrate...

The primary function of "circuit controller (H)" is to discharge the cap....this is not rocket science.....study the patent.

Regards

Would this post (http://overunity.com/16203/inductive-kickback/msg466489/#msg466489) that you made back in 2015 have any relevance to the type of motor which you suggest?

QuoteWhat I do not want especially in configurations which incorporate transformer action, (systems which incorporates a second stage of coils which are positioned quadrature to the motor windings) is a decrease in consumption, on the contrary, in circuits which make use of transformer action, I find an increase in consumption is desired. In such a system, the motor field excites the second stage of coils, the transformer action augments the generator action already established in the second stage. There have been a few demonstrations where consumption drop has been sighted as being a good thing, and while I choose not to argue with those who aim for this, it is not something that I practice nor recommend.

Is this how you are relating your coils in your motor which produces the ozone? A quadrature coil relation?

Thanks,

Dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 04, 2017, 02:43:27 AM

Good point Dave. That's why I pointed to Aviso. That's exactly what he did to get 3 times voltage during the same pulse period :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: web000x on October 04, 2017, 10:43:57 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 04, 2017, 09:42:57 AM

Am I reading into your question or are you asking me about "physical geometry"?

Regards

I am curious about the physical geometry and resultant electrical angle. Similarly to how a three phase motor's coils are related, neighboring coils are at an electrical angle of 120 degrees. Tesla's original motor had windings at an electrical angle of 90 degree apart from on another in comparison to the rotating magnet. Is this how you are relating coils in your motor, with a 90 degree electrical angle between neighboring coils?

Thanks,

Dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: web000x on October 04, 2017, 12:32:04 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 04, 2017, 11:05:55 AM

That's what I thought.....you were asking about physical geometry.... With this in mind, and considering you asked about my motor and didn't specify which one, I must answer with no. Now enters the question, how I can justify a discussion about phasing when there's no physical offset.....

You've harped about the necessity of three coils many times. Is this how you are physically relating them, with no physical offset? Possibly a trifilar coil which has motoring and transformer functions inherent in it's operation?

Dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 04, 2017, 01:44:42 PM

Quote from: web000x on October 04, 2017, 12:32:04 PM

You've harped about the necessity of three coils many times. Is this how you are physically relating them, with no physical offset? Possibly a trifilar coil which has motoring and transformer functions inherent in it's operation?

Dave

Well it could be a few ways. A bifi as the primary. Or secondary between 2 primaries like partnered coils. Tito used to say wind 3 coils but never gave and answer to how exactly nor how to use them exactly, as far as i know. I may have missed something along the way as I lost interest in the thread for the most part.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 04, 2017, 01:46:02 PM

Or trifilar and say 1 is the sec and the other 2 are series bifi. And some other configs that would have to be tried.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on October 04, 2017, 07:52:16 PM

Hi,

just to recap:

i think:

dc bruch motor
3 coils
two capacitors?

well, i am not interessed on ozone product!!
but how to build an efficient motor?

thanks and regards
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on October 05, 2017, 08:58:03 AM

Hi Erfinder,

Would the attached photo be one way to get the proper relationship you are referring to? The coils are trifilar with with two number 30 gauge wires for the motor drive and one 24 gauge wire for recovery of spikes and magnet passes. The motor windings are fired 180 degrees apart to match the alternating polarity of the magnets. Or to explain it more clearly each winding gets fired 45 degrees after the last winding since there are 8 magnets with alternating polarity.

Regards,
Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 05, 2017, 09:02:34 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 05, 2017, 11:25:25 AM

ok......does your machine fill the room with the stench of a rich blend of ozone and possibly nitrogen gas? If not.... ask yourself to what relations I am referring, at this point it should be crystal clear that what you think I mean is not what I mean.

Regards

Hey Er..

Would there be coil shorting on the bifilar windings to get them "spun up" so to say as to get the voltages for ozone production?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on October 05, 2017, 10:17:52 PM

@Magluvin,

Here's a video of an inductance measurement of a Tesla series bifilar coil that is spirald around a twin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP2xEKH4qdc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP2xEKH4qdc)

At 22 seconds the negative inductance exceeds the setting level and I pressed the power button too lightly in a failed attempt to turn the meter off. This resulted in a series of false readings that followed.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: profitis on October 06, 2017, 03:32:20 AM

"gambling losses"

gains

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: web000x on October 06, 2017, 07:11:56 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 05, 2017, 07:24:51 AM

In my own defense, the harping was more about the significance of the relations between three coils....this more so than the necessity for three coils.... It should be obvious how they are "physically" related....do we have more than two options...? I hope you don't mind my saying, in my opinion, your thinking is in the right place, however, your questions are still too generic, too general..... If possible focus on "interactions" between coils rather than physical relations....

There are people on this platform who have experimented with multifilar coils....none of them have demonstrated what I have shown you in our offline discussions....what are they missing......

Regards

Is the multifilar coil to be arranged as the constituent coils in Tesla's ozone patent circuit? With the coils being switched between magnetic conjunction and opposition? This would give that impedance mismatch of which you've spoken..

I have experimented with various arrangements using opposition charging and conjunction discharging to run a motor. You can see a jacknoskills inspired circuit that I experimented with a few months ago using the opposing end of the third winding as a source of high potential. Although you mentioned in a post a while back that during cap charging, the motor would spin. This didn't happen in the arrangement I was experimenting with. However, using the correct configuration, I could in a similar manner cause conjunction charging and opposition discharging just by making a few adjustments, thus causing motoring force during cap charging.

I have no idea if I have been searching in the right direction but I figured I'd throw this out there so you can either completely destroy it or encourage it.

Thanks,

Dave

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: profitis on October 06, 2017, 12:58:41 PM

"The latter task is
impossible if the prior was not successfully
accomplished."

Not if ur lucky

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on October 06, 2017, 05:07:52 PM

Multiplying Free Energy is super simple with this GEM-(Geometrical Electricity Multiplier=AC type) free electricity multiplying mechanism at http://free-energy.yolasite.com/. This is a device that can be easily + cheaply assembled by using one large pulley attached to a DC motor, + at least one mini-pulley connected to an AC generator, both must be of the same voltage, 4 diodes to build a crude full wave bridge rectifier-(converts your AC output into DC input that your drive motor needs), a lot of wire to connect your electrical components together, and a belt, strap or tied piece of rope or string, to connect the two or more pulleys together. This has to be dirt simple + cheap to build, as it will be needed to be built by the Tribulation Saints, whom cannot buy or sell.
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This works on the simplest of principles, the principles of basic preschool pulley mechanics, where you only have to pay the small amount of electricity,(only a spark) that it takes to gain one single rotation of a DC motor, with a large 100 cm circumference pulley attached to it. With this one rotation of a large pulley, you can freely gain a long length of 100 cm of moving belt, which will give you a multiple of 100 rotations, for your one, or as many 1 cm circumference mini-pulleys that you wish to attach to this same belt. Then all that you would have to do is, attach AC generators to as many of these mini-pulleys that you choose to attach to the same belt as your large 100 cm pulley, which is attached to a DC drive motor.
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You could even freely gain 1000 cycles of AC electricity from this single burst of DC current, if you chose to attach 10 mini-pulleys to the same belt/strap, with AC generators. Please don't listen to these fake worries about torque being a problem, as these mini-pulleys would run free of any torque, as torque comes from when you need to generate power. Power is calculated by multiplying voltage time current, and although your many rotations of these mini-pulleys are generating massive voltage, which is exactly what you need to crank over your DC drive motor the one single time, you are in need of only one mere spark of current. So, even massive amounts of voltage, when it is multiplied by the almost zero amount of current that it takes to rotate a DC motor once, it would equal out to practically zero power, cost practically zero torque.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on October 09, 2017, 09:12:04 AM

As I explained in my last post in that thread I don't really consider it the same as THE "Zero Force Motor" as I have not even watched any of the videos about that motor or read the book. I originally posted the video to show Bro. Mikey he was wrong about a motor with air coils running away because of no BEMF. I was then asked by Aaron if I would be willing to share more about what I was doing. So after a few days of consideration I decided to share some of what I was up to. I didn't share some other ideas I have for power and generating coils. Those are not for a group of people that won't even try to replicate correctly what someone takes time to show them.

Thanks for all your hints and suggestions. I am still trying to learn and feel I have a long way to go to get even close to where I want to be.

Kind regards,
Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 14, 2017, 11:07:27 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 09, 2017, 10:45:08 AM
It would probably be wise for me not to digress, the discussion is about "Energy Amplification".... It's strange, after all this time, it appears as if none are aware of the "exact" instance, when the term "amplification" applies.... specifically in the ozone patent.

We talk about Tesla as if we know him through his works, I find we dishonor him by not seeing, and thereby appreciating what he laid at our feet..... The ozone patent is a masterpiece......mastery of which is but the first step....
Regards

Hear, hear!!!

But what does the patent really do?

Here is the problem with the capacitor. Many say the capacitor "discharges" when H connects. OK, explain to me how the capacitor charges and how it keeps its charge, too then discharge. The problem being that during Teslas' time there were no diodes to hold any charge in a capacitor for it to then be discharged when required. In the patent, the capacitor is inline between a constantly connected positive potential on one side of it, and on the other side it is constantly connected to the working primary that is connected to the fan and rotary switch turning dc motor brushes that then goes to the negative potential. So the capacitor is always connected to the source and is never left as charged so it in reality cannot discharge any more then the source itself. There cannot be a high discharge of capacitive potential. In water terms, the capacitor becomes something akin to a low volume pressure tank or better put a small water hammer arrestor. But why put an arrestor on the positive line before the working primary? It is because the arrestor or capacitor is put there because when the feed potential is reversed again when H opens, the "let's say current" can reverse back into the working primary and because of the capacitor it lands in the capacitor thus passing 100% of the working primary and by doing so creates a change in the total length of the working primary which is the real object of the patent. How to change potential in all of the primary and not only in half of it like it would undergo if it was switched in a traditional linear circuit.

Mind play. What happens if you took the capacitor out and replaced it with a nice inductive coil or even another DC motor but that had twice or three times the inductance of the existing fan motor? So you have two dc motors running on each side of the working primary. This will do the same thing as how Tesla is using the capacitor. From the positive side, the capacitor is seen as a normal wire that conducts like any other wire will do. From the negative side the same capacitor is seen as an small expansion point making sure that anything that goes to the working primary passes it completely and slightly expanding in the capacitor. Hence the more COMPLETE the potential change can occur in the working primary, the more it will impart to the high voltage secondary. Yes it is a true masterpiece. He is basically using the capacitor as a high inductance coil in series with the low inductance working primary.

One day I would like to make an animation of the circuit workings of that patent under Spin Conveyance because under the Standard EE model, that patent is just a technical mess and most likely one of the main reasons why this patent has been so misunderstood for so long. You cannot explain it with Standard EE and maybe this is one of the reasons why Tesla made it to fly in the face of the inconsistent physics eggs that were being laid by the intellectual hens of those days. Basically with this patent Tesla found a way to beat or circumvent Half Coil Syndrome which he probably knew existed but did not have any way of discussing it because the mentally of electricity travel in a wire was so pervasive, being a false notion that relegated our effects as linear travel, but there never was any electricity travel, it was always conveyed.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 14, 2017, 11:28:06 AM

Quote from: wattsup on October 14, 2017, 11:07:27 AM
Hear, hear!!!

But what does the patent really do?

Here is the problem with the capacitor. Many say the capacitor "discharges" when H connects. OK, explain to me how the capacitor charges and how it keeps its charge, too then discharge. The problem being that during Teslas' time there were no diodes to hold any charge in a capacitor for it to then be discharged when required. In the patent, the capacitor is inline between a constantly connected positive potential on one side of it, and on the other side it is constantly connected to the working primary that is connected to the fan and rotary switch turning dc motor brushes that then goes to the negative potential. So the capacitor is always connected to the source and is never left as charged so it in reality cannot discharge any more then the source itself. There cannot be a high discharge of capacitive potential. In water terms, the capacitor becomes something akin to a low volume pressure tank or better put a small water hammer arrestor. But why put an arrestor on the positive line before the working primary? It is because the arrestor or capacitor is put there because when the feed potential is reversed again when H opens, the "let's say current" can reverse back into the working primary and because of the capacitor it lands in the capacitor thus passing 100% of the working primary and by doing so creates a change in the total length of the working primary which is the real object of the patent. How to change potential in all of the primary and not only in half of it like it would undergo if it was switched in a traditional linear circuit.

Mind play. What happens if you took the capacitor out and replaced it with a nice inductive coil or even another DC motor but that had twice or three times the inductance of the existing fan motor? So you have two dc motors running on each side of the working primary. This will do the same thing as how Tesla is using the capacitor. From the positive side, the capacitor is seen as a normal wire that conducts like any other wire will do. From the negative side the same capacitor is seen as an small expansion point making sure that anything that goes to the working primary passes it completely and slightly expanding in the capacitor. Hence the more COMPLETE the potential change can occur in the working primary, the more it will impart to the high voltage secondary. Yes it is a true masterpiece. He is basically using the capacitor as a high inductance coil in series with the low inductance working primary.

One day I would like to make an animation of the circuit workings of that patent under Spin Conveyance because under the Standard EE model, that patent is just a technical mess and most likely one of the main reasons why this patent has been so misunderstood for so long. You cannot explain it with Standard EE and maybe this is one of the reasons why Tesla made it to fly in the face of the inconsistent physics eggs that were being laid by the intellectual hens of those days. Basically with this patent Tesla found a way to beat or circumvent Half Coil Syndrome which he probably knew existed but did not have any way of discussing it because the mentally of electricity travel in a wire was so pervasive, being a false notion that relegated our effects as linear travel, but there never was any electricity travel, it was always conveyed.

wattsup

If you make animation or better yet , video with your explanation of Tesla patent I will be glad to watch it many times to grasp the idea. Things are harder to understand with age especially in foreign language :-( It would be really helpful. I had the idea but I cannot prove it or check it, and with my very rude experiments it seems to be wrong...but I thought that maybe Tesla used the shorting coil method used by Aviso to charge capacitor to higher voltage.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 14, 2017, 03:45:58 PM

Quote from: forest on October 14, 2017, 11:28:06 AM
If you make animation or better yet , video with your explanation of Tesla patent I will be glad to watch it many times to grasp the idea. Things are harder to understand with age especially in foreign language :-( It would be really helpful. I had the idea but I cannot prove it or check it, and with my very rude experiments it seems to be wrong...but I thought that maybe Tesla used the shorting coil method used by Aviso to charge capacitor to higher voltage.

@forest

This thread goes back many years indeed and back in 2011 I had posted a small animation to show the simplistic nature of how both polarities of a battery advance into a circuit.
http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg279767/#msg279767

Years later, I then did some videos of Half Coil Syndrome to show how our coils work when pulsed on one side only. This one side pulsing is the bane of our existence and includes probably 98% of how our coils and motors are used and why we will never go above COP in this manner.

I have had many years since then to put it all together under one main atomic effect of the nucleus that has been neglected ever since Faraday was "forced" to rationalize the coil and compass effect as being a field related effect. He had to include the field because our past was built on it since 100s of years before him. Academia at the time only wanted the field construct to fit the effect and help our minds grasp or hallucinate "action at a distance". But it was all faulty logic married by Maxwell to fancy numbers. This is still where we are today. Faulty or not, our toys work so who cares, right?

So of course today such a construct as Spin Conveyance is like saying Jesus was not the son of God but an offspring of extraterrestrial alien insemination. But man oh man, SC explains it all so fluently that the EE Electron and Field model will one day become obsolete. It may take 20 years before it hits the classes but the more I see this the more stronger my position is. Usually, when a construct is spawned, it will quickly die from inconsistent matching to effects. But SC fits it all. I am sure if I put this in front of Tesla in his days, he would have realized the importance and direct attribution and understanding of our effects as in this manner, instead of the Electron/Field construct he so despised just by his own natural sense of universal cause and effect. He knew it down in his gut that something was wrong with the Electron model but he had his own priorities and we thank him for sticking to them and not being overly distracted in those days. Construct modelization was not his calling.

Example problem: You pulse a nice square wave onto one side of a coil. You scope the coil and see this crazy looking waveform. You then increase the frequency of that same square wave pulse and all of a sudden you see this bland boring sine wave showing a gradual increase, peak, gradual decrease to zero then you see this gradual increase going below the zero line to a peak "negative" then a gradual increase to zero again. So now, try to explain how purported electrons traveling in a wire at said speeds that would make your heart stop, all in one direction from a square wave pulse will create a nice sine wave above a certain frequency. Try to explain that with Standard EE physics. Oh this must be one of those famous exceptions to the Standard Model. If a physics model is to have any sense of truth, how can you even accept one exception. No a model MUST handle all effects if it is to be considered viable. As soon as it fails on a major cause/effect, it has to be scrapped or modified. The fact that science has had 100s of years of piece-mealing and force-feeding our accepted science into what it is today does not make it right. It only makes it mildly palpable and greatly full of holes. But if you never consider that there can be holes, you will never even look for them.

As pulse frequency goes faster, the transformation of a complex waveform into a simple sine waveform shows us that we have reached the physical limits of a physical condition and the only physical condition that it can be is the copper nucleus' limit to how fast it can sway to an impulse and return from an impulse. If you held your hand steady while you let your index finger point up to its extreme limit and down to its extreme limit as a physical movement, then if I asked you to do that faster and faster, you will see that you cannot do that while keeping the same length of movement so the movements get shorter and shorter as you increase the speed. Your index finger just explained the same limitations in the nuclei which explains this cause/effect. It's so simple you would laugh. This same SC notion then can be used in variations to explain the physical effect of resistance, inductance, capacitance, etc., all physical forms of effect that are today only explained by formulas and force fed by speedy moving electrons.

I had also made an animation on a Joule Thief circuit located here;
http://etherimpress.com/forum/index.php?topic=687.msg2330#msg2330

Also, two docs on SC are located here;
http://etherimpress.com/forum/index.php?topic=684.msg2326#msg2326

Sorry if my posts are long winded but luckily I don't post that often anymore. hahaha

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on October 15, 2017, 05:22:27 AM

Hallo guys, hope you are fine.
The bigger problem in this design is that very few people bother to test and experiment on. I also like to assume what a circuit does when i look at it, but in most of the instances there are issues that just can not be predicted.
Few things about what you miss here are:

1. There is no need for a diode but even if you use one the outcome doesn't change...a lot.
2. In this specific circuit the charging current is DC even if it can also be done by using AC
3. " currents with great electromotive force" is the key word
4. The phase between current and voltage is a condition which has to be taken seriously
5. Current's change of rate at key moments has a great impact on the operation.

But again without bench work it is rather impossible to see what is going on here. And as Erfinder said this is nothing else but the first step.

Wish you the best
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tinman on October 16, 2017, 08:51:07 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 15, 2017, 08:07:28 AM

Regards

QuoteIn the future, it would be professional of you to refrain from quoting me....we don't think alike, we have nothing in common...you do not comprehend the patent under discussion, and it is my firm opinion that you are only here to massage your ego, with assistance of those who are willing to oil up and rub you down.....disgusting....

Just where the fuck do you get off? thinking you have the smarts to put some one down like that.

Wattsup has helped more,shown more,and been far more innovative/creative than you have ever been.
There is only one here !stroking! there ego--and that's you-you ass clown.

QuoteTesla does a superb job spelling out what the patent does... I am sure you can read, but this isn't about reading it's about comprehending... Can you see what is suggested but not communicated aloud..... No...in this department you are an epic fail.

The only epic fail here--is you.
Fail to show anything of any use.
Fail to explain anything to anyone.
And the biggest fail--to think you know Tesla's work,and understand what he dose not say or show.

QuoteEverything following your brain fart can be filed in the trash bin. Your ignorance and arrogance blinds you from that which matters. Your inability to see and properly interpret the obvious is painful to watch.

Whats painful to watch,is those that i consider good people,falling for your bullshit and baffle.
All you ever do is quote Tesla,when you have no idea what the hell your talking about.

QuoteIn the example (Ozone circuit), the capacitor is charged by a DC source.....no diode required......duh.... In variations of the same circuit where AC is the source, he "diagrammatically" suggests a simple yet mind boggling method for charging AC caps to a DC potential without the use of rectifiers.... I was obsessed with the "missing rectifiers", so much so that I dedicated years to finding why he didn't use them and authorities and their minions state that they are a must... I found the method, all that was required was that I dismiss my preconceived notions.

Another lot of bullshit that belongs at EF,so as you and your two co-horts can write a book of secrets on mechanical,magnetic and flyback rectification--all old news.

QuoteI can show you how it's done, how to charge a AC cap from an AC source to a DC potential without diodes, using a method which was well known and practiced in Teslas' time...

I can show you 3 different ways-woopty-f*&king doo.

QuoteIn exchange for the disclosure, I ask that you refrain from commenting in any thread on this forum dealing with Teslas' work! Your theories are an unwelcome distraction

And just when do you think you earned the right to put this kind of ultimatum on any member here?

Your theories are nothing but horse shit--a continuous babble of nothingness.

Quote....If it was put to a vote.....I am positive folk would run your ass out of here, if for no other reason, curiosity regarding this cap charging method...

Those here are smart enough to see blackmail when it's presented--as you just did.

My vote is--wattsup stay's--and you take a flying leap.

You show small parts of a system to a select few,but never show the whole picture--why.
Well here is why--because if you showed the whole system,then those in the know would soon sniff out your bullshit--and your goose would be fried.

Lucky for us,there are a few that see right through your bullshit,and so,wattsup will be here to stay,as most will know what he has done,what he has contributed to,and those he has helped out over the years--not to mention all the alternative ideas he has put forth over the years-->unlike yourself,who has given nothing at all.

Up Yours

Brad

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 17, 2017, 07:45:08 PM

Quote from: tinman on October 16, 2017, 08:51:07 AM
Just where the fuck do you get off? thinking you have the smarts to put some one down like that.

Wattsup has helped more,shown more,and been far more innovative/creative than you have ever been.
There is only one here !stroking! there ego--and that's you-you ass clown.

The only epic fail here--is you.
Fail to show anything of any use.
Fail to explain anything to anyone.
And the biggest fail--to think you know Tesla's work,and understand what he dose not say or show.

Whats painful to watch,is those that i consider good people,falling for your bullshit and baffle.
All you ever do is quote Tesla,when you have no idea what the hell your talking about.

Another lot of bullshit that belongs at EF,so as you and your two co-horts can write a book of secrets on mechanical,magnetic and flyback rectification--all old news.

I can show you 3 different ways-woopty-f*&king doo.

And just when do you think you earned the right to put this kind of ultimatum on any member here?

Your theories are nothing but horse shit--a continuous babble of nothingness.

Those here are smart enough to see blackmail when it's presented--as you just did.

My vote is--wattsup stay's--and you take a flying leap.

You show small parts of a system to a select few,but never show the whole picture--why.
Well here is why--because if you showed the whole system,then those in the know would soon sniff out your bullshit--and your goose would be fried.

Lucky for us,there are a few that see right through your bullshit,and so,wattsup will be here to stay,as most will know what he has done,what he has contributed to,and those he has helped out over the years--not to mention all the alternative ideas he has put forth over the years-->unlike yourself,who has given nothing at all.

Up Yours

Brad

Maybe he is trying to help others get it without having the same issues you had with your rotary transformer. So what ever happened to that?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 18, 2017, 01:40:52 AM

Quote from: Jeg on October 15, 2017, 05:22:27 AM
Hallo guys, hope you are fine.
The bigger problem in this design is that very few people bother to test and experiment on. I also like to assume what a circuit does when i look at it, but in most of the instances there are issues that just can not be predicted.
Few things about what you miss here are:

1. There is no need for a diode but even if you use one the outcome doesn't change...a lot.
2. In this specific circuit the charging current is DC even if it can also be done by using AC
3. " currents with great electromotive force" is the key word
4. The phase between current and voltage is a condition which has to be taken seriously
5. Current's change of rate at key moments has a great impact on the operation.

But again without bench work it is rather impossible to see what is going on here. And as Erfinder said this is nothing else but the first step.

Wish you the best
Jeg

If the timing of the switching is faster than the inductance feeding the cap, then it is mechanical switching rectification. Switch to charge the cap, then switch to discharge the cap. If the cap is only charged up to the input voltage then no rectification needed unless we are just trying to separate parts of the circuit from another. But if the motors inductance charges the cap beyond the input voltage then rectification needed, mech or diode, if the goal is for the cap to hold that higher potential than the input for discharge later. If it were an ac input, then Id say the speed of the switching would be critical and would need to be regulated to switching in time with the phase of such input.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 18, 2017, 02:11:58 AM

Quote from: wattsup on October 14, 2017, 11:07:27 AM
Hear, hear!!!

But what does the patent really do?

Here is the problem with the capacitor. Many say the capacitor "discharges" when H connects. OK, explain to me how the capacitor charges and how it keeps its charge, too then discharge. The problem being that during Teslas' time there were no diodes to hold any charge in a capacitor for it to then be discharged when required. In the patent, the capacitor is inline between a constantly connected positive potential on one side of it, and on the other side it is constantly connected to the working primary that is connected to the fan and rotary switch turning dc motor brushes that then goes to the negative potential. So the capacitor is always connected to the source and is never left as charged so it in reality cannot discharge any more then the source itself. There cannot be a high discharge of capacitive potential. In water terms, the capacitor becomes something akin to a low volume pressure tank or better put a small water hammer arrestor. But why put an arrestor on the positive line before the working primary? It is because the arrestor or capacitor is put there because when the feed potential is reversed again when H opens, the "let's say current" can reverse back into the working primary and because of the capacitor it lands in the capacitor thus passing 100% of the working primary and by doing so creates a change in the total length of the working primary which is the real object of the patent. How to change potential in all of the primary and not only in half of it like it would undergo if it was switched in a traditional linear circuit.

Mind play. What happens if you took the capacitor out and replaced it with a nice inductive coil or even another DC motor but that had twice or three times the inductance of the existing fan motor? So you have two dc motors running on each side of the working primary. This will do the same thing as how Tesla is using the capacitor. From the positive side, the capacitor is seen as a normal wire that conducts like any other wire will do. From the negative side the same capacitor is seen as an small expansion point making sure that anything that goes to the working primary passes it completely and slightly expanding in the capacitor. Hence the more COMPLETE the potential change can occur in the working primary, the more it will impart to the high voltage secondary. Yes it is a true masterpiece. He is basically using the capacitor as a high inductance coil in series with the low inductance working primary.

One day I would like to make an animation of the circuit workings of that patent under Spin Conveyance because under the Standard EE model, that patent is just a technical mess and most likely one of the main reasons why this patent has been so misunderstood for so long. You cannot explain it with Standard EE and maybe this is one of the reasons why Tesla made it to fly in the face of the inconsistent physics eggs that were being laid by the intellectual hens of those days. Basically with this patent Tesla found a way to beat or circumvent Half Coil Syndrome which he probably knew existed but did not have any way of discussing it because the mentally of electricity travel in a wire was so pervasive, being a false notion that relegated our effects as linear travel, but there never was any electricity travel, it was always conveyed.

wattsup

I just explained the mech rectification in my last post. The inductance of the motor is a large inductance. Just as simply explained in the Tesla Igniter pat. The igniter pat shows how to charge the cap to a high potential using very little input current. The large inductor is large enough that the timing of the points in the engine( in his illustration is just the switch at a particular position of the piston) when the engine is running, that the cap is at a much higher potential by the time the points switch connects. Lets say that the large inductor has completed charging the cap via field collapse. Sure the cap with a larger potential could possibly reverse its way back to the lower potential input if the switching did not occur fast enough or not at all. But field collapse currents of an inductor happen way faster than the time it takes for charging up the 'Large' inductor. So even when the engine is at its lower rpm or sluggish start, the cap should still hold a much higher potential than the input before discharging.

When the cap is discharged into the very low turn, low impedance, low resistance, low inductance of a step up transformer primary, it is now putting the large inductor directly across the input source of which gets the currents flowing in the large inductor so when the discharge switch is opened, the large inductor dumps its field collapse currents into the cap, and repeat.

Id say instead of trying to make a simulation or an animation of the circuit, try and build the circuit. It may never show you what the real thing is actually doing. And if the sim/anim draws you to a conclusion that the thing will not work for OU purposes, then i have to argue and differ with that conclusion as I could not find that conclusive. Forget the fan, forget the motor and make it simpler with just a controlled switch and replace the motor part of the circuit with a large inductor. Maybe use a motor for the switching, but its windings would need to be of a large inductance, value, where a lot of them today may not work for this. So use a speed controllable motor to do the switching but have a large inductance in place of that portion of the circuit. Or try a dozen other ways to do the switching and no motor at all. Could build a high inductance motor with the armature windings and stator windings in series and make it as original as possible. That part is probably what veers people away from it as that would be most of the lot of work in the project and may consider it too difficult.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tinman on October 18, 2017, 08:19:52 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 17, 2017, 07:45:08 PM
Maybe he is trying to help others get it without having the same issues you had with your rotary transformer. So what ever happened to that?

Mags

Have you ever seen me belittle some one like Erfinder belittled wattsup?

Have i ever said i would share something,if such and such a person stop's posting here on this forum?.

Quoteyour rotary transformer. So what ever happened to that?

It sits on the shelf in my workshop,and my offer still stands--that is,i challenge Erfinder to put up any one of his machines against my RT for an efficiency comparison-->yes Erfinder,my machine you called an abomination,but also a machine you fear to go head to head with.

I am of course willing to let any ! yes,any! third party to confirm P/in and P/out measurements on my RT if Erfinder takes up the challenge--the one thing you will never !!NEVER!! see Erfinder allowing.

So-im calling his bluff,and he is yet to answer it.

Brad

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: profitis on October 18, 2017, 08:53:33 AM

"you do not comprehend
the patent under discussion, and it is my firm opinion
that you are only here to massage your ego, with
assistance of those who are willing to"

Hey hey don't attak the englishman just bexos his in
new york.the man is much smarter than u think pal

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 18, 2017, 04:44:30 PM

@tinman

Thanks a heep but listen man, I do not want you to dirty your hands on my account. I can take care of myself but I do appreciate your input, your works and your devotion.

The problem is the discussion should have stayed on topic without personal attacks that are not worth any rebuttal on my part. All I talked about was the patent, then all of a sudden it just got shifted into redneck alley. Not good for anyone. What the hell. Is there only one way to see a Tesla Patent?

@Magluvin

Well good to see some @members do not mind pushing their grey matter above the nose line. I will try to answer after each quote. But let's take it slowly, step by step.

Quote from: Magluvin on October 18, 2017, 02:11:58 AM
I just explained the mech rectification in my last post.

I cannot picture that at all. Don't forget that inductors "discharge" when disconnected but the inductor is always connected. Capacitors discharge when connected but the capacitor is always connected as well. The object of the patent is not to discharge anything. The working primary and secondary wind relations are already set up for a high step up so a discharge on the primary is not required, only a change in polarity is required. The high voltage for ozone production is already in the winds of the working primary and secondary. So the object of the patent is two fold. Produce as much complete change in polarity in the primary. In these cases usually the primary is a one layer wind of not that many turns but if you can change the polarity across the total length of that primary from positive to negative, then more of that primary length that changes polarity, the change hence the more impress is conveyed to the secondary for step up. The second object of the patent is to maintain steady air flow across the high voltage secondary arc that will push the produced ozone out of the system at a steady rate, not too fast to dilute the gas and not to slow to be overly concentrated. These are two only requirements for this patent to be useful. Produce ozone and make it exit the device at a measured flow rate to produce a given ozone concentration or dosage level.

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The inductance of the motor is a large inductance. Just as simply explained in the Tesla Igniter pat. The igniter pat shows how to charge the cap to a high potential using very little input current.

OK, if you had a TV flyback transformer that has a 10 turn primary and a 1000 turn secondary, do you need to discharge a capacitor into the primary? No. The step up is already set-up in the wind ratios. If the same transformer only had a 50 turn secondary and you wanted high voltage, then you would want to discharge a capacitor but that capacitor would need a diode to hold the charge you wish to discharge.

In the Ozone patent, the capacitor is in series directly to the positive rail of the source so any increase in voltage above the source voltage would leak back into the source and not be available for any discharge. The capacitor is not discharging anything. It is simply being used as an expansion point so potential can change in the complete length of the primary. Or consider it a way of using the capacitor as a second coil that provides simple throughput for any matching potential which will be made evident further down.

So first, do you agree that you need two potentials to charge a capacitor? If yes, then from where does the capacitor get its negative potential to then charge, hold a charge and then discharge? hahaha

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The large inductor is large enough that the timing of the points in the engine (in his illustration is just the switch at a particular position of the piston) when the engine is running, that the cap is at a much higher potential by the time the points switch connects.

This is a little confusing. Engine, piston, engine is running, seems to not follow the patent.

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Lets say that the large inductor has completed charging the cap via field collapse.

There is no "field collapse" because the inductance is always connected.

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Sure the cap with a larger potential could possibly reverse its way back to the lower potential input if the switching did not occur fast enough or not at all. But field collapse currents of an inductor happen way faster than the time it takes for charging up the 'Large' inductor. So even when the engine is at its lower rpm or sluggish start, the cap should still hold a much higher potential than the input before discharging.

Hmmmm. Hard to explain. The relationship between a high inductance coil and a capacitor will not produce high voltage in the capacitor. It will only fill up the capacitor to higher uF ratings faster, but not at more voltage. If you want to fill up a capacitor of high UF, you take a high inductance coil is series and your capacitor will fill up much faster because the potential from either side will want to reach the circuit center point which is somewhere in the inductor so the capacitor is seen a mild inconvenience, whereas when you connect the battery to the capacitor both ends advance and have equal footing in the capacitor and fight in the center. That's what slows things down. More on that further down.

Oh boy, lots to cover maybe more then I can in a few paragraphs. So let's start with the same question. Do you agree that the motor inductor needs two polarities to rotate? So we know the motor inductor is getting a constant negative potential but how is it getting the positive potential? Then do you agree that the motor inductor is not reversing in polarity since the motor would then turn in the other direction? So it is always getting the same polarities. Agree? For the motor fan to be useful it has to run at a steady rate. Right or wrong? I have worked with large ozone generators and the air flow has to be steady, measured and constant.

Seems like you guys never talk about circuits in the two polarities but only as being a circuit with electrons traveling in one direction so you never can consider each polarity because for you guys, both polarities create only one effect, electron flow in one direction that is supposed to be constant and equal throughout the circuit. That is where the Tesla patent shines above the rest in its simplicity to show that no, each polarity has its own conveyance direction more like two forces meeting like when you play with a slinky toy.

So like mentioned before, the Tesla Patent does not require a capacitor to discharge.

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When the cap is discharged into the very low turn, low impedance, low resistance, low inductance of a step up transformer primary, it is now putting the large inductor directly across the input source of which gets the currents flowing in the large inductor so when the discharge switch is opened, the large inductor dumps its field collapse currents into the cap, and repeat.

OK, so now you are talking about the actual rotary switch and relation with the fan motor as in the form of high inductance. But again here we do not need to discharge a cap because the primary/secondary relations are already set by their wind numbers. Look all the primary wants to see is polarity change and here Teslas' simple solution does not discharge a capacitor.

If you are to talk about coil inductance as a source of "field collapse" don't forget that this is not a coil but a DC motor with the sole load of having to turn a small fan and a rotary switch. So we can say there is no load so the rotor of the motor will be turning with little input in comparison of like when a dc motor is run fully loaded then released. So the fan motor should not be a source of high field collapse required to charge a series to source connected capacitor that then needs to discharge that supposed charge on the working primary to then push a higher then normal ozone producing high voltage off the secondary. Do you get the picture of how we can see this in many ways. We do tend to over-dramatize when we say things like field collapse that for me is no longer a possible phenomenon. Thinking that a field will leave the confines of an object and when the current is broken the field then collapsed back into the object like a well trained Jeanie is simply illogical and not required.

I remember I had talked about this many months ago and even then @Erf castrated me without haste and reserve so I am not surprised of his attack on me in the manner he did. No problem.

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Id say instead of trying to make a simulation or an animation of the circuit, try and build the circuit. It may never show you what the real thing is actually doing. And if the sim/anim draws you to a conclusion that the thing will not work for OU purposes, then i have to argue and differ with that conclusion as I could not find that conclusive. Forget the fan, forget the motor and make it simpler with just a controlled switch and replace the motor part of the circuit with a large inductor. Maybe use a motor for the switching, but its windings would need to be of a large inductance, value, where a lot of them today may not work for this. So use a speed controllable motor to do the switching but have a large inductance in place of that portion of the circuit. Or try a dozen other ways to do the switching and no motor at all. Could build a high inductance motor with the armature windings and stator windings in series and make it as original as possible. That part is probably what veers people away from it as that would be most of the lot of work in the project and may consider it too difficult.
Mags

Let me think about this one. I am not going to do anything right now simply because my work load to prepare SC is just all encompassing right now.

OK, so let me ask you. Do you need both polarities across the primary when the capacitor discharges? So how then is the capacitor discharging across the working primary? The capacitor spends all its time on the positive rail of source. So how is it discharging a positive and negative to the primary?

It all then boils down to how you perceive what a polarity is. We want change across the Primary. When the rotary switch is open the positive conveys through the capacitor, then the right side of the primary and exits the left side of the primary to then land on the fan motor to provide a first dc+ to the fan motor. The rotary switch then closes so now the positive hits the fan motor directly while it hits the left side of the primary and passes it to land in the capacitor.

So what just happened? Well if all we wanted is change in the primary, then you just got that change but not in a positive/negative way. Tesla used the positive to rebias the working primary from one side, then from the other side while he uses the capacitor as a virtual source of negative that gets rebaised. The fact that the primary is between an inductor on the left and a capacitor on the right both are acting as landing points for the positive polarity as it completely passes the primary one way, then the other way. Tesla just solved Half Coil Syndrome by pulsing the primary with a positive from one side, then the other side so basically, the primary is being run for free while he spends a little energy on the non-loaded fan motor and while any possible momentary increase in voltage in the capacitor from the second positive reclaim of the primary is fed back to the source. It is still fantastic from either perspective.

One basic change many can try in their mindset as a easy way of stepping out of the box. Some say the DC battery makes electrons travel from positive to negative and some say it's negative to positive. So imagine. It's like saying this one way road can be driven in both directions. And all seem fine with that. So maybe try to modify this one notion whichever you espouse for just 30 days, to this. Both polarities convey into the circuit from both ends up to the center of the circuit which, for most systems, is at the center or around center of a good inductor. So now, nobody can be wrong. Try it, connect a coil directly onto the leads of your battery. High chance it will blow in the center. Why? Because when two opposing forces converge, things usual blow up at the point of convergence. The frontline, the blotch. Then think about this. All measurements you ever made on your circuits could be explained by both polarities advancing into the circuit. You just always looked at it in another mono-directional way but funny we only have positive diodes so of course you can only see in one direction because your are concentrating more on where the diodes block the positive. So the directionality is coming more from the use of the diode then from the natural bi construct of electricity. Tesla did not use diodes so when he says potential, he rarely identifies them as positive and negative because most of his circuits are balanced, symmetrical, except in the Ozone Patent he decided to play a new game. Spend for fan motor but freely pulse the primary.

This could all be confirmed on a bench by driving a small fan motor with, then without, the ozone production and rotary switch. It could be a fan motor, one flyback transformer, one capacitor, then the fan and rotary method. If adding the later does not increase consumption or very slightly, then you know what he was trying to do. That would be an epic bench work worth the time.

@Erf

Regardless of what you say to me, if you ever want an outside look into your ideas, let me know. Try to loosen up man. Life is too short.

@all

If you have questions, please think them through yourself first then ask me a better question. i figured out that this 30 day thing is the easiest way to start, even without looking into SC, if used will start a process in your mind and gradually create a new space in your mind that will act like a referee while you work through your own comparatives. Then all of a sudden something will click and you will never work the same way again.

When you pulse the negative on a coil, you are letting the negative convey to the coil because the positive is already in the coil from the already connected other coil terminal. When you pulse the positive on a coil, you are letting the positive convey to the coil because the negative is already in the coil from the already connected other coil terminal. So you only saw half of the true action till now. Ain't that great, there's way more to discover.

A battery of 12 volts. If electricity flowed from one to the other polarity, why does a short circuit break in the center? Why are both wire points of contact at the battery terminal cooler then the center of the wire? I did a video on that many years ago.

All the best.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 18, 2017, 05:29:04 PM

This is the simplest version. The igniter pat diagram below.

Notice the dc source is in series with the large inductance and the capacitor, they are always connected.

When circuit D is closed, it connects the primary F of the spark coil across the cap, F being a very low ohm, low inductance coil, then becomes like a closed switch across the capacitor, in turn causing currents to build in the large inductor. When D opens, the large inductor now unloads its field collapse into the cap of a higher voltage than the dc source. The next time circuit D is closed, that caps charge is dumped into the spark primary. With the time allotted for D to be closed, the cap and primary ring down in resonance most likely giving a longer spark life than just one quick high voltage jump. Sort of an MSD effect. When D is opened again, the cap is probably fully discharged and will take on the next field collapse from the large inductor once more.

Back when I did some experiments on this I found that putting a diode from the left side of the source E to the bottom lead of the large inductor H so the inductor could dump its charge into the cap without having the battery source in series with the inductive discharge as I could see that it would pull from the battery also while the large inductor charged the cap if the diode were not there.

But lets look at it a bit differently....

Lets say the cap and coil were allowed enough time when D is open to charge the cap to peak and then like a good LC should, reverse direction until the cap is charged to peak in the opposite polarity and then discharged. Well then we have sent some back to the battery during the cap charging cycle and we still have a cap charged to a high voltage for discharge in the primary.

I have been wanting to put this back on the bench for some time. i have most everything I need to set it up and try some new things I have thought of over the years and this conversation inspires me to do so.

Lets see what I come up with

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 19, 2017, 05:59:16 PM

@Magluvin

Wow, I got your PM's with @MH and deleted them. Not interested in has been blabber.

If anything sunk in from my previous post, then this Igniter Patent holds the same rules.

First off, look at the positive side of that battery. Where is it going? Yes to a high inductance coil (HIC) and the battery positive will never pass the half way mark of that coil. The negative will pass the cap in a flash and enter the HIC from the other end. This means what? Tesla is using only the negative to produce a negative rebias to the primary when the switch is open and a negative impulse in the other direction through the primary when the switch is closed. That's how the primary change occurs because again, all you want is change over the primary.

Again the primary/secondary winds are already set up for a high voltage step up so you do not really need a capacitor to discharge. In this setup the capacitor is acting more like a resistor because the tension on the other side of the capacitor going to the other side of the HIC is lower then the negative tension that turns left before the capacitor and heads straight for the switch. When the switch closes, that negative line will shoot through the primary and head right into the HIC from that negative side.

So again a masterpiece because Tesla is doing this only with the negative side of the battery. The positive is just sitting there in the first half of the HIC creating the landing point where the negative higher tension that bypasses the capacitor then going to the switch wants to land and fight against the positive still waiting in the HIC and if they had their way, they would blow that HIC up. The fight is not in the primary. It is at the center most point of the circuit that is usually in an HIC.

Now, Tesla describes this as he can, at the time and based on his vision of electricity but when you read that patent it is full of inconsistencies that no one would notice if all kept the same perspective.

So if anyone disagrees, including @MH, without insults, then tell me what happens to the positive after it enters the HIC?

I could write much more but will let it at that for now.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 19, 2017, 06:30:53 PM

Quote from: wattsup on October 19, 2017, 05:59:16 PM
@Magluvin

Wow, I got your PM's with @MH and deleted them. Not interested in has been blabber.

If anything sunk in from my previous post, then this Igniter Patent holds the same rules.

First off, look at the positive side of that battery. Where is it going? Yes to a high inductance coil (HIC) and the battery positive will never pass the half way mark of that coil. The negative will pass the cap in a flash and enter the HIC from the other end. This means what? Tesla is using only the negative to produce a negative rebias to the primary when the switch is open and a negative impulse in the other direction through the primary when the switch is closed. That's how the primary change occurs because again, all you want is change over the primary.

Again the primary/secondary winds are already set up for a high voltage step up so you do not really need a capacitor to discharge. In this setup the capacitor is acting more like a resistor because the tension on the other side of the capacitor going to the other side of the HIC is lower then the negative tension that turns left before the capacitor and heads straight for the switch. When the switch closes, that negative line will shoot through the primary and head right into the HIC from that negative side.

So again a masterpiece because Tesla is doing this only with the negative side of the battery. The positive is just sitting there in the first half of the HIC creating the landing point where the negative higher tension that bypasses the capacitor then going to the switch wants to land and fight against the positive still waiting in the HIC and if they had their way, they would blow that HIC up. The fight is not in the primary. It is at the center most point of the circuit that is usually in an HIC.

Now, Tesla describes this as he can, at the time and based on his vision of electricity but when you read that patent it is full of inconsistencies that no one would notice if all kept the same perspective.

So if anyone disagrees, including @MH, without insults, then tell me what happens to the positive after it enters the HIC?

I could write much more but will let it at that for now.

wattsup

Yeah sorry about the pms. I didnt make the multi person pm list, MH did. I only replied to him a couple times there and I know that he wants that fight to continue, so he has something to do with himself. ;) He does this once every month or 2 to get his nickers wet. Everything is all nice and quiet and he does this and makes a list of the recipients to bother with his same rants he used many times before to do the same. I dont start these things with him. He just pops up and does it when he feels the need. Nuff said

As you had said earlier about making an animation or sim to try, well running the circuit on Circuit Sim works quite well in seeing what different large inductor, cap values and timing of the switch(I run it about 10%duty and adjust from there if needed) can do. I just ran it last night for giggles and I was able to do as I had said of the possible ways. If the switching is quick enough, then the large inductor never really stops flowing current in the same direction. If the switch timing is made longer in timing between switchings, it can get to a point where the large inductor and cap basically have a cycle of resonance before the switch closes again, where the cap is charged higher than the input voltage, then the cap reverses the inductor currents back to the battery, charging direction, and when the cap is at peak negative voltage of the resonant cycle, the switch closes, cap dumps into the primary and the cycle repeats. Simulated it many many times in many many variations. Im very familiar with how that circuit works. One of my vids used this circuit to drive a pulse motor, AND I was able to use the large inductor placed at a particular point around the rotor to use its field to help drive the motor faster than without it there. That was a 2 for 1 deal that worked out well for me.

Im not sure I understand your description of what you think is happening in that circuit. Maybe you can simplify or describe it in detailed chronological order from one switching to the next.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 19, 2017, 06:34:14 PM

Again rereading your description, I dont follow your separation of the battery into 2 entities of a pos and neg as if the battery in between is not a part of the circuit and the pos and neg are not in sync in the circuit. Just dont get it

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 19, 2017, 07:21:48 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 19, 2017, 06:30:53 PM
Yeah sorry about the pms. I didnt make the multi person pm list, MH did. I only replied to him a couple times there and I know that he wants that fight to continue, so he has something to do with himself. ;) He does this once every month or 2 to get his nickers wet. Everything is all nice and quiet and he does this and makes a list of the recipients to bother with his same rants he used many times before to do the same. I dont start these things with him. He just pops up and does it when he feels the need. Nuff said

Mags

When I had gotten the pm from MH, I didnt even read through the whole thing and just assumed he was aiming at me with it and i made a bad call on my reply back at him that was not called for in the least. Didnt get it till just some min ago that the first pm wasnt aimed at me. So what I aslo said above was not called for either. My mistake. I apologize for all that. ;)

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 19, 2017, 11:37:20 PM

@Magluvin

Forget @MH.

OK, think of the battery as a judge in a boxing match. All the two boxers want to do is get to the ring and fight it out with each other. The ring in all our circuits is the center point of highest inductance.

If the HIC was the only thing connected to the battery, the ring would be HIC dead center with both boxers fighting it out until the ring cannot hold and boom, you just blew an HIC. Bay boy. hahaha

Now put the capacitor on the negative boxers side. Now he has to pass that to get to the ring at the center of the HIC while all the positive boxer has to do is wait for him there and while he does that he passes the halfway mark just a little. So the fight will be slightly more on the negative boxers half of the HIC. The more you add things that the negative boxer has to pass before it gets to the HIC ring, the more the fight will occur on that side of the HIC.

So, if you measured the inductance of the HIC, you take half that and the positive boxer advances halfway into the HIC to that point. Then you measure the inductance of the negative circuit and take that divided by the inductance of half the HIC as a percent and that (or near that) is how much off center the fight will occur on the negative side. If you added more stuff on the positive side as well, the HIC center will go slightly back towards the positive side.

I sure as hell hope some catch this because it ain't in the books..

Ok, is a battery a balanced or imbalanced energy source? It's balanced with a positive potential and a negative potential. Why do we call them potentials? How can a battery negative be a potential when all it does is let's the positive flow back into it? Such farfelutin ideas of electron travel are the reason you have to believe in battery directionality. Again, Tesla had no diodes. He did not even have that in his mind to think about or be constricted by. He just used both polarities.

I know we all have learned otherwise but that otherwise is wrongo man. Our EE explanations are only formula based without any real logic for the OUer. Sorry for ranting.

OK, so the boxers know that whenever the fight starts they have to get to the center point of the HIC. What we do is use only half the motion because we only see things going one way. It does not.

So add more on the negative side that's switched in and out of the circuit and the strongest line of that potential will still want to go the the HIC ring and fight it out. Tesla uses this polarity eagerness to his advantage. This eagerness is due to the copper atom nucleus' ability to convey potential by nucleic mimicking via the Six S's. Stay, Show, Sway, Swing, Spin and Shoot. That is explained in the docs I mentioned on a previous post.

Example B: Now, let's say the HIC is only connected to the positive boxer and nothing else. Ahhh. Now that boxer passes the HIC and gets to the other end right to the tip of that wire yelling to the negative boxer "Hey you chicken or what? Come on let's get this fight going". The negative wire hates being called chicken. He grabs on the wire and starts fighting the positive pushing it all the way back into the center of the HIC. That's why an already connected boxer has an advantage since it claims all of the HIC first so the switched boxer always has to fight its way to the HIC center ring by reclaiming its half of the HIC. That will always happen when one side is already connected. That is the crunch of Half Coil Syndrome.

We basically took the bi-force of a battery and only used one force. Then we diode the hell out of it and all that's left for the negative is to be considered a potential dumping ground.

Maybe read my previous post again.

OK, now replace the boxer that moves in the wire with a zillion boxer nuclei, one inside each copper atom of the wires or conductors. So in example B, imagine all the atoms on that big fat negative battery terminal are ready to fight and you approach the positive boxers who have all conveyed through the HIC to the tip of that connection wire that will touch that negative terminal. Now you have millions of positive boxers yelling to the negative boxers "Are you all chicken or what? Come on let's get this fight going". You guessed it. The negative boxers hate being called chicken so they connect and they start conveying and pushing back and conveying more and pushing and conveying more and pushing back the positive boxers to the HIC center ring where if left to their own devises, will fight till the ruining end.

Could post more if you want. There is so much more. You guys think we know it all. We know nothing more then following stringent construct rules full of holes.

So now let's go through the Ignitor patent.

Two boxing clans, we know them as the infamous N's and P's. The P conveys to the center of the HIC and just waits bored to the hilt. The N conveys to this tee, then left to an open switch and also straight up to a multi-parallel dielectric conductor where it conveys through it then another tee, then left conveying to the primary of the ignitor coil then to the other side of the open switch, it also turns right towards what it really wants and that is to fight it out in the HIC center ring. But right now only those N's after the capacitor who received a conveyance are battling it out in the HIC and not at the center because the N is now lacking in boxers. So the primary sees one conveyance of the N potential after the capacitor that stopped at the open switch. Since that switch is open, the majority of the N boxers are waiting impatiently to advance their conveyance from their side so for now they cannot get to the HIC in full force like the P's did on the outset, so the primary is only N bias conveyed from left to right.

Now the switch is closed, the main N clan on the right can now convey first against the N's that were biasing the primary from the switch side going to the tee where some main boxers will convey down into the capacitor from the top while the majority start the real fight now at or near the HIC center.

So this means what? It means the N or the P can convey to a primary from either side and create change in the primary. You can soft bias a coil or hard bias a coil from either side and with either polarity.

So in this patent Tesla used positive as a stable focal point held at the ring of the HIC. Then he controlled the negative to change directions through the primary as they headed to the same focal point for the fight. In the ozone patent he used the negative side as the focal point and switched the positive but in a slightly different manner as explained previously.

So the switch? If the switch is fast enough to turn off just when the main N conveyance passes the primary, it will do its full effect for Primary change while not hitting the HIC full tilt to overly tire out the boxers. That would be where the control should look.

Anyone doing this should consider an HIC with a center tap for scoping.

Also, you will find that all measurements you do will follow this logic. The same efficiency test could be done with only the cap and HIC running then with the ignitor portion added. Do not use anything inline with the circuit as amperage measurements. Use a clamp on ammeter to follow the number of boxers as they convey further in the lines.

Hope this is more understandable.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2017, 12:49:36 AM

Hey Watts

What is HIC? I may be slow here,

Are you saying that the large inductor will not have much activity due to only so much current can go through the cap in one direction? if that is the case then we are missing something...

Lets say we are going to cut the grass with our igniter circuit on the mowers gas engine. And at the moment the engine is at rest and it just so happens that the points are closed and that points switch connects the primary across the cap. It will remain in that condition till we pull the rope tied around the flywheel. Now we connect the battery as shown, At this time the cap is not part of the circuit as far as the battery is concerned because the points are closed and the primary of the transformer is now electrically across the cap. So now the large inductor is basically across the battery, and the primary in series with the loop is of little effect to the large inductor taking on currents from the battery. The transformer primary across the cap at this time allows current from the battery to flow in the large inductor as freely as the large inductor allows, and it is building its field till it is max and max current is flowing in the large inductor. Now we pull the rope and the points now open, disconnecting the primary from across the cap and now the cap IS in the loop of the battery/large inductor. The inductor is all wound up and will collapse its field and charge the cap, yes through the battery as a discharging function in the battery. In the end the cap will be charged up to a higher voltage than the battery. And hopefully the points are ready to close again while the cap is still charged at this high voltage and discharge it across the primary. During the time the cap is across the primary, oscillating as an lc, the primary can also carry the dc component of the battery through the large inductor at the same time the primary and cap sing thus building the field in the large inductor once more and repeat.

If you would like I can set up the circuit on sim and present the code for you to see exactly what I just said. The whole idea IS to get that high voltage charge in the cap for primary discharge and oscillate till the ringing dies down. Should be quick and high freq due to the very low inductance of the primary and possibly the spark load helping to kill the ring faster than no load.

The battery will accept and pass the currents of the large inductor to charge the cap to a higher voltage than the battery.

In a points ignition system there is a condenser across the points. That condenser is not just there to protect the points switch contacts. The condenser becomes part of an LC with the primary of the spark coil. If you have a coil laying around, try applying just 12v + and - of a battery across the coils + and - input. Then disconnect for the field collapse to induce the HV in the secondary for spark production. You will only see a short distance spark possibly lees than a1/4in and about as harmless as a quartz sparker in some cigarette lighters instead of flint and wheel. Just 1 single weak pip spark. Now do the same with the condenser across where the switch opens. Now your spark will be way more intense and longer lasting due to the LC oscillation.

Now when we look at the points with condenser circuit closely, the oscillation of the LC cap and primary, has the cars battery in the loop. If the cap is across the closed switch, the same switch that connects and disconnects the - side of the coil to gnd, we can trace the currents all the way through the battery as part of the loop. The battery + is always on the + side of the coil input and the points only connect and disconnect the - side of the coil to ground.

Its a strange arrangement through the battery, but is works fine. Today with electronic ignition advances i dont believe this action goes through the battery any longer. The noise in the cars electrical system would be a hazard to the plethora of computers and electronic devices of todays vehicles.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2017, 12:55:35 AM

Also, I look at circuits as electron flow from the - of the battery/source, through the circuit/load and back to the + of the battery. Maybe you are going by another idea of how things work. Seems like you see + charges going one way in a circuit while neg charges flow in the opposite direction simultaneously. I think, from reading your posts here. Is that the case?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 20, 2017, 08:36:42 AM

@Magluvin

In my Reply #8215 I mention it - high inductance coil (HIC).

Look, take a 12vdc battery and two wires of three feet long. Put one wire end on each of the battery terminals leaving the two other ends open. Put your volt meter on those two open ends. What do you see? If the positive of the meter is on the positive of the battery, you will see +12vdc. If the positive of the meter is on the negative of the battery you will see -12vdc. So whatever information was at the battery terminals is now at the end of each of those wires. Both the positive and the negative potential of the battery had to advance into the wires for your meter to read that. Both potentials advance in the circuit. I covered that a few posts ago.

Now connect the two wires together. Where do you think the wires will blow, at the ends or in the center where they meet? Well 9 times out of ten they will blow in the center. So why should it blow in the center if the battery is supposed to work from as you say negative to positive and as others say positive to negative? What is so different about the current flow as you say before it arrives at the wire center, at the wire center and after it leaves the wire center? There is no difference because this is impossible? If the electricity in the battery was flowing in a circle back to source, then the wire should always blow at the point where the current goes back into the battery but it does not. That is because both polarities exit the battery.

OK another example. A 12 volts battery has 6 x 2 volts cells. Right or wrong? Right. Each cell has a P and an N side. Right or wrong. Right. So if each cell has both N and P how is it that when you put six together, you get this 12 volt N and P reading? What? Do they add up and how is that possible that they add up if when you go through each of those 6 cells together. No way that can be possible. The battery cell has an N and a P because it is finite and needs to delimit itself. But that one cell can also be either full N or P so when you put two cells together, one is N and one is P and when you read across you still see the polarities and 4 volts. Put three cells together and 1 1/2 will be N and 1 1/2 cell will be P. Put six cells together and you now have 3 N and 3 P. You measure the voltage on the battery and see 12 volts and think one terminal is zero and the other terminal is 12 volts, but you forget that the volt meter only measures potential difference, just like if you put 5 x 12vdc batteries in series and measured between the 3rd and 4th, you will again see 12vdc even though your meter probes are at the 36 and 48 volts marks you will still see 12 volts. The same with the battery, half of those cells are now completely N and the other half are now completely P so in reality the voltage is -6 vdc to +6 vdc and your meter sees it as 12. You have a -6 leaving the N and a plus 6 leaving the P and heading for the bulb with an additive force of 12 vdc.

Look even if both polarities exit the battery and even though our present science thinks one polarity exits to then enters back into the battery from the other polarity, this does not change the truth of the battery exiting both polarities and it does not change how we have gone about exploiting only one facet of the battery. Tesla used both polarities in his patents advancing into the circuit.

You have a dc bulb on a battery. In your view then how is it that the negative can enter the bulb, glow like a star creating this quasi fusion state in that filament, then redress itself to enter the output of the bulb to then return safe and sound to the battery source? That is impossible in any other natural state of things. As soon as the bulb was so hot and bright it should have lost all information from the negative and had nothing left to return to the positive side of the battery, so THERE CANNOT BE A FLOW OF ANYTHING. But we are taught to see an illusion while the reality and logic is glowing right in front of us. Would it not be more logical to say that the bulb received both a positive and a negative potential, advancing into the filament and lighting it up. This in reality is the only logical answer. But we see it in one direction.

I'll have to digest the rest of your post but most of those answers are in my last few posts. Look this is a new concept for you guys were I have had years now to prepare it and believe me, there is no room for error in it because it explains all our effects to perfection without any exceptions and inconsistencies. This requires that you re-read and re-read and all of a sudden something will click. Basically the electron and the field are imposters. They are the source of all our misconceptions about electricity and how it works in a natural way, the way that will lead to OU. If our first scientists and physicists were ordered to provide only half the truth of electricity because they knew that if we knew the truth, we would start developing new ways to pulse our coils like Tesla wanted to do with Wardencliff, then teaching us only half the truth was their way to keep us mentally chained up. We still advanced or increased our complexity but we still pay for the losses and this loss is very profitable for some. You just have to wake up and get ready for the changes that will occur when the first OU device hits the market, it will change our present constructs so just get ready because for some it will be one hell of a shock to learn we have spent all our lives on this monolithic view of energy.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2017, 09:34:11 AM

Quote from: wattsup on October 20, 2017, 08:36:42 AM
@Magluvin

In my Reply #8215 I mention it - high inductance coil (HIC).

Look, take a 12vdc battery and two wires of three feet long. Put one wire end on each of the battery terminals leaving the two other ends open. Put your volt meter on those two open ends. What do you see? If the positive of the meter is on the positive of the battery, you will see +12vdc. If the positive of the meter is on the negative of the battery you will see -12vdc. So whatever information was at the battery terminals is now at the end of each of those wires. Both the positive and the negative potential of the battery had to advance into the wires for your meter to read that. Both potentials advance in the circuit. I covered that a few posts ago.

Now connect the two wires together. Where do you think the wires will blow, at the ends or in the center where they meet? Well 9 times out of ten they will blow in the center. So why should it blow in the center if the battery is supposed to work from as you say negative to positive and as others say positive to negative? What is so different about the current flow as you say before it arrives at the wire center, at the wire center and after it leaves the wire center? There is no difference because this is impossible? If the electricity in the battery was flowing in a circle back to source, then the wire should always blow at the point where the current goes back into the battery but it does not. That is because both polarities exit the battery.

Im late for work so i can only make a short reply and will address the rest later.

HIC ok I just quote tesla from the patent as large inductance when I talk about the pat.

On the where does the wire blow and why, I cant say I agree with you on that. If we light an incandescent bulb using a variable say dc input and we crank it down till the wire is just a low glow, the middle of the filament is most always brighter than the parts of the filament ends. For the most part it is because the larger posts on each end of the filament conduct a lot of heat away from those ends of the filament. What your conveying is if we broke open a heating element from an oven and removed the coils of filament and string it up, it would be pretty darn long is we stretched out the springy filament,that when we apply the input, there will be more heat from the middle area of the length due to an electrical cause? I would say that the middle would be between the 2 lengths of the ends, and the middle could be hotter than the rest due to being in an area that has just as much heat to the left and the right of the middle. And the ends would only have half of that local ambient heat around them. We could lay it out in a straight line on the shop floor and then add another perpendicular to the first one and they cross in the middle. Then we could take 2 more and cross in the middle of the first 2, one at 315geg and the other crossing at 45deg. So it looks like a big 8 pointed star of 4 heater coils all crossing in the middle.
And then we fire them all up. Apply more power till they blow.
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1 Where would it blow and why?
2 If it blows in the middle, why is it so hard to believe that it is where the most heat is combined in 1 area because the heat of the whole surrounds the middle more than on the ends?

Having the 4 filaments crossing is a firmer example of what is happening in just 1 wire or filament as you described it. With 4 crossing we have magnified my point of view to be more relevant. There will be more heat in the middle crossing than what can be measured toward the ends of the wires or filaments. But the same will apply with just 1 length of wire just in a lesser amount, yet it still is accountable to to the same reasoning. Now this wire better be darn near perfectly made. If there is one imperfection in a portion of the wire that is off of center, then that area will heat more due to the resistance of that imperfection and it should blow there instead of the middle. The weakest point is what it is. Weak.

I have to disagree with you that it blows in the middle because of electrical properties that you describe.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 20, 2017, 03:12:32 PM

That interesting discussion is ....nothing. The only real Energy amplification is what Tito said to us. :P
I don't believe it could "cure the world" if you knew it. Even Tesla was sure: it's only a peanut.Sure, can fulfill needs of ordinary house but it's not possible to scale up , at least not easily.... Look how big was Kapanadze 100kW installation.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2017, 05:09:45 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 20, 2017, 02:01:22 PM
I am going to pretend that Wattsup isn't here....nothing he has presented thus far will get you anywhere.... don't take my word for it, ask him to demonstrate his understanding of the patent... I can not only demonstrate the patent as presented, I can demonstrate it as it was meant to be, I already have....while you were sleeping....

I can appreciate the benefit of exchanging with one of so many words, and will stand on the sideline and watch the discussion which takes place between the two of you lead to nowhere.... I will interject my two cent when I feel it necessary.

So that its clear....I do not agree with this.....

UH....WTF?!?

When the switch closes, it, the switch, places the motor across the supply, simultaneously, it places the cap across the primary.... focus..... we are looking at two circuits during the instance of switch closure, the motor and supply representing one circuit, and the cap and primary representing the other, the switch (controller) being common to both.

The motor and primary become a "functioning series circuit" when the switch opens, when the now empty capacitor is allowed to complete the circuit to the supply through the series connected primary and motor.

I have tried to paint the significance of this picture time and time again, but am constantly opposed by those whom I am positive have yet to truly immerse, and lose themselves (literally) within this subject.

When the switch opens allowing the cap to charge to the supply potential, the current, manifesting out of opposition to change in voltage, moves through the serial connected motor and primary, causing the motor to rotate, and exciting the primary. The fact that both motor and primary are excited during the cap charging cycle is overlooked by all! Another overlooked aspect, the cap charging current is not motivated entirely by the supply potential, it is motivated by the induced potential generated by the collapsing field of the coil. This "mixing" of energies, (for lack of a more descriptive way of formulating it) how and when it is to be accomplished, and through which circuit(s) it is to propagate through is one of the primary lessons taught by this patent.

I hope you read this and it clicks...I hope you read this and realize how mistaken you are in thinking that you can perform the tasks which need to be performed without the motor....

Regards

Hmm. I have to go back and look. I thought your conversation the other day with (I have to go back and see) was that yes we could replace the motor with an inductor and pull off the switching another way. If I was wrong then I was wrong.. have to git for a couple hours and Ill go back and see what I misread or misunderstood.

Also Ill have to closely reread your post here in comparison to what I had posted in which your reply here was to. I think we are in the same ballpark. I believe I did say there are 2 separate circuits in the same way you just explained but I cant do this at the moment. And If I dont have it right and the motor motoring is beneficial to the whole, can you explain why as compared to using a large inductor in place of the motor and just doing the switching with some other mechanism/circuit?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on October 20, 2017, 05:31:18 PM

Hi Mags,

I'll try to take a guess at your last question as to why a motor is different from a large inductor. Erfinder can correct me if I am wrong. If you disconnect power from a DC motor while it is still spinning what does it become?

Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on October 20, 2017, 06:28:51 PM

In the same spirit i would say that motor has a comutator. When switch opens, motor coils provide multiple "currents with great electromotive force." Inductor alone will give only one.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2017, 07:07:33 PM

Quote from: citfta on October 20, 2017, 05:31:18 PM
Hi Mags,

I'll try to take a guess at your last question as to why a motor is different from a large inductor. Erfinder can correct me if I am wrong. If you disconnect power from a DC motor while it is still spinning what does it become?

Carroll

Not sure that is the case. Would it 'generate' HV for the cap charge? Not sure about anything I suppose....

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2017, 07:08:12 PM

Quote from: Jeg on October 20, 2017, 06:28:51 PM
In the same spirit i would say that motor has a comutator. When switch opens, motor coils provide multiple "currents with great electromotive force." Inductor alone will give only one.

Not too sure there either.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2017, 07:33:52 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 20, 2017, 02:01:22 PM
I am going to pretend that Wattsup isn't here....nothing he has presented thus far will get you anywhere.... don't take my word for it, ask him to demonstrate his understanding of the patent... I can not only demonstrate the patent as presented, I can demonstrate it as it was meant to be, I already have....while you were sleeping....

I can appreciate the benefit of exchanging with one of so many words, and will stand on the sideline and watch the discussion which takes place between the two of you lead to nowhere.... I will interject my two cent when I feel it necessary.

So that its clear....I do not agree with this.....

UH....WTF?!?

When the switch closes, it, the switch, places the motor across the supply, simultaneously, it places the cap across the primary.... focus..... we are looking at two circuits during the instance of switch closure, the motor and supply representing one circuit, and the cap and primary representing the other, the switch (controller) being common to both.

The motor and primary become a "functioning series circuit" when the switch opens, when the now empty capacitor is allowed to complete the circuit to the supply through the series connected primary and motor.

I have tried to paint the significance of this picture time and time again, but am constantly opposed by those whom I am positive have yet to truly immerse, and lose themselves (literally) within this subject.

When the switch opens allowing the cap to charge to the supply potential, the current, manifesting out of opposition to change in voltage, moves through the serial connected motor and primary, causing the motor to rotate, and exciting the primary. The fact that both motor and primary are excited during the cap charging cycle is overlooked by all! Another overlooked aspect, the cap charging current is not motivated entirely by the supply potential, it is motivated by the induced potential generated by the collapsing field of the coil. This "mixing" of energies, (for lack of a more descriptive way of formulating it) how and when it is to be accomplished, and through which circuit(s) it is to propagate through is one of the primary lessons taught by this patent.

I hope you read this and it clicks...I hope you read this and realize how mistaken you are in thinking that you can perform the tasks which need to be performed without the motor....

Regards

Lol Im just not with it today or something is whack.. In your post above you quoted me but I cant find the post you quoted me from to look at the whole thing. looked over the pages of today, of which the quote is dated oct 20 but I dont see it.. Do you? I didnt delete any and looking in 'My Posts' list I can not find the "hey Forest" post..

Got a cust here at my shop.. Ill see if I can get it in a bit. 30min trying to find it and it doesnt seem to exist now. I click on the link above what you quoted me and it should have taken me to my post. Now I have to say WTF!!! never had this prob before

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2017, 08:14:16 PM

Im a bit PO'ed. Where is my post???? I just tried to click a link above another 'quote' from Watts and it takes me to that post. When I click on mine in your post it goes to my profile. its not there.. Er do you save posts? Like do you have that post of mine on record? Some people do, just thinking. I want to see the whole content of what I said and I cant.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2017, 08:35:12 PM

Does this thread have a moderator??????????????????? if so Id like to know if and or why it was removed. I do not believe there was anything bad enough in any of my posts that it should have been removed. >:(

I am moderator of the resonance circuits and devices topics only. I can remove posts there. Here I can only do what anyone can do, edit my post to 1 character, as it wont let you delete the post fully, and the post should still be up, but it is not.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2017, 08:43:39 PM

ok. Im done. Its totally gone. Ill ask Stefan who is the moderator or if he did it. I have not seen anything like this in my years here. Er has the partial quotes but the post now does not exist. Im upset here. Im going to chill a bit........

Magluvin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2017, 09:38:16 PM

Ok. when I go to the list of threads in the resonance devices and systems topic list, I can see at the bottom of the list that Tinman, Grumage and me are moderators there. Under solid state devices topics list at the bottom there are no moderators listed.. Chet says then it could possibly only have been Stefan, unless Stefan has someone else overseeing the site. This is just wrong. Im like, how many other of my posts are gone also and I dont even realize it??? Or if it happens to anyone for that matter.... Wrong..

Do I have to make my own copies of my posts, or even all posts im interested in just to keep a reference????? Thats garbage man... so in a way why do we even need this site if someone just can willy nilly start censoring posts , and without notice of doing so??? may as well just email each other instead.. Pissed man pissed.

I looked at my moderation list and I have not moderated anyone since I was set as a moderator. Not one. But some is....... >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Magluvin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 20, 2017, 09:47:00 PM

Hmm, i dont see Forests post that I replied to in my missing post............ >:(

Magluvin

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 20, 2017, 11:57:13 PM

@Magluvin

Look in your PM's. It was in one of my PMs as well so @Erf got a copy too but I don't think it was not posted on the thread. Can't say more.

Tomorrow I will respond to @Erfinder.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 21, 2017, 12:19:00 AM

Quote from: wattsup on October 20, 2017, 11:57:13 PM
@Magluvin

Look in your PM's. It was in one of my PMs as well so @Erf got a copy too but I don't think it was not posted on the thread. Can't say more.

Tomorrow I will respond to @Erfinder.

wattsup

So that post of mine that ER quoted me from was in pm? For some reason for I cant see pms that i have sent, only ones that are sent to me. Ive always wondered why that is. So can you resend it to me if its there? If that is all it is, then I have to question why it was brought out into the thread and not just replied to there by erfinder. Ive been absolutely going nuts over this and for what?? To bring some of what I said out in the open??? Not that I really mind because i would not be hiding anything, but if it is there then that would be great. Caused me a large freaking headache for the past 5 hours.

How can I see my sent messages?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 21, 2017, 12:53:08 AM

From what little ER quoted from me in his post....

"Hey Forest

I dont think in this case inertia of the rotating motor has anything to do with it.. It was agreed upon in the thread that the motor could be replaced by a large inductor and the switching can be done in many of the different ways of doing so and get the same results."

Then he says...

"So that its clear....I do not agree with this....."

And here is the text from er that kind of impressed on me that an inductor could substitute for the motor. There is no reason posed as to why the motor is in some form better than just an inductor. But in the end er says to install a proper motor....

"If you build the circuit like it is in the patent, substituting the motor for a single coil (for ease of familiarization purposes) you will experience exactly what I said will happen. Specifically, with the switch "OPEN", an empty capacitor is inserted in the circuit, it will charge to the supply potential, through the motor and transformer, a magnet placed on the coil can be thrown across the room when charging a capacitor of moderate capacity, and a neon will fire when placed on the secondary of the transformer. From this point, you can replace the coil with a properly selected motor."

So the only thing I can think of where the motor is advantageous is that the motor has shaft output while the circuit is running? But somehow Im feeling that is not the point he is making. I dunno

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 21, 2017, 12:53:59 AM

Ill need a copy of the Hey Forest post to reply to the rest of er's post

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on October 21, 2017, 02:50:28 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 21, 2017, 12:19:00 AM

How can I see my sent messages?

Mags

Hi Mags.

When you open " my messages " there's a tab marked " sent messages " you can then refer to the list.

However.... Only messages that you have " checked/ticked in the box marked " save a copy in my outbox " will be available.

Cheers Graham.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 21, 2017, 04:54:08 AM

To end up with confusion here is what I understood from Tesla cryptic statements placed in many his high frequency patents : in case of DC the motor is slightly better then a pure DC choke, because the commutator action will allow to STORE MUCH MORE ELECTROSTATIC ENERGY IN MOTOR COILS DURING THE PERIOD WHEN COILS ARE SHORTED.
When it happens ? In the time when capacitor is discharging. More later.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tinman on October 21, 2017, 09:51:27 AM

Quote from: citfta on October 20, 2017, 05:31:18 PM
Hi Mags,

I'll try to take a guess at your last question as to why a motor is different from a large inductor. Erfinder can correct me if I am wrong. If you disconnect power from a DC motor while it is still spinning what does it become?

Carroll

An energy storage device for a brief time.

If the Tesla Ozone device is built correctly,then the wave form across the motor should look like the scope shot below.

Brad

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 21, 2017, 10:24:23 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 20, 2017, 02:01:22 PM
I am going to pretend that Wattsup isn't here....nothing he has presented thus far will get you anywhere.... don't take my word for it, ask him to demonstrate his understanding of the patent... I can not only demonstrate the patent as presented, I can demonstrate it as it was meant to be, I already have....while you were sleeping....

@Erfinder

I will pretend I am here and can read your responses and will also provide a rebuttal. We can build so many devices but none of them will show you understand the function. Building is not a free ticket to understanding so please do not equate either together as a force that allows one to fly above the rest. We have the best work bench right between our ears.

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I can appreciate the benefit of exchanging with one of so many words, and will stand on the sideline and watch the discussion which takes place between the two of you lead to nowhere.... I will interject my two cent when I feel it necessary.

I have not posted at OU for months and now just for a few posts I get blasted for "so many words". Come on. If I felt your comments were worthless and trying to discuss with you was futile I would not have bothered and done what I usually do and that is just stay quiet while you guys run in circles, not me. Look, how can you sharpen your knife of knowledge if you do not have an opposing medium to work it on?

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So that its clear....I do not agree with this.....
And
UH....WTF?!?

I also do not agree to this as it is obviously looking in the wrong direction.

Ahhhhh, at last we will get into some nuts and bolts talk we can get our teeth into. I will respond but first confirm here that we are talking about the Ozone patent and not the Ignitor patent.

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When the switch closes, it, the switch, places the motor across the supply, simultaneously, it places the cap across the primary.... focus..... we are looking at two circuits during the instance of switch closure, the motor and supply representing one circuit, and the cap and primary representing the other, the switch (controller) being common to both.

First we have to agree that we are talking about a running device and not at the initial startup. We also agree that the fan motor commutator brushes overlap across more then one segment so it is always connected. I remember we had a spat about this about a year ago so let's just assume this to be the case like in most DC motors today.

So, as you say when the switch closes it radically places the supply positive potential to the motor. Just that connection itself will cause a spike that cannot be construed as a capacitor discharge but can simulate that a capacitor is being discharged without it actually happening. The capacitor is there to help attenuate that spike while some is sent back to the source and forward as I will discuss further down..

When the switch closes, the capacitor is still in series with the battery positive so how can it only "discharge" through the primary and even this sentence is so full of blindfolds because you do not explain what that discharge is, how does it leave the capacitor, what are the polarities and how did they land in the capacitor to charge it. You cannot just say "it discharges through the primary". I have provided exactly the potential relations in how this works while most people, including you accept that just saying the former is acceptable. How can it be acceptable if you are not describing how the discharge occurs, especially when a battery positive is in series so why is the capacitor not discharging into the battery instead of into the primary? Inferring something like "wattsup you're a crackerjack will not do it". Get down to the micro second how too otherwise all these discussions have a free ticket to use any form of freebase out there without justifying the statement. Everything I put up I went though step by step. We will see this further down.

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The motor and primary become a "functioning series circuit" when the switch opens, when the now empty capacitor is allowed to complete the circuit to the supply through the series connected primary and motor.

Let's just confirm that we are talking about a dc source with identifiable polarities.
We are also talking about a working primary of near zero inductance so it's no better then a length of wire. Agree?

So ahhh, this is what I wanted to read from anyone. A key. You are confirming and agreeing that the capacitor in series with the primary and the motor does in fact COMPLETE the circuit when the switch is open. So you have to try and figure out the answer to one question. When the switch is open what is the polarity between the capacitor and the primary? If we can easily see that the polarity from the battery to the capacitor is positive, what is it when it leaves the capacitor and hits the primary and what is it when it finally hits the fan motor?

If this was a class, I would imagine I should stop right there until everyone put up their answers, but I am not a teacher, just a curious OUer so I will assume that most will reply that the polarity of the capacitor is positive when it leaves the capacitor, it stays positive through the primary and to the fan motor. So if this is right then I would have to ask another question. How do you charge a capacitor? Most will answer, you apply a positive and a negative potential to the terminals and it charges. Right or wrong? Should wait again for your answer but will assume this is right and will continue. So then we can ask, when the switch is open, how can the capacitor charge up when we just agreed both sides of the capacitor are positive? If you want to solve a puzzle, you put all the pieces on a table. So which pieces are on your table may not be the same pieces on my table but I use logic to go even deeper then this.

So this tells me the capacitor is just there because if you remove it, everything shorts out so it is there as a landing spot, again, because the capacitor does not have to discharge for the patent to work. The primary/secondary wind ratios take care of that because that cannot be left to circuit variations. Just give the primary a conveyance and the secondary will convey at high voltage output. So those are some of the questions that no one can fault me for having. Saying it's all bunk just does not answer the questions.

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I have tried to paint the significance of this picture time and time again, but am constantly opposed by those whom I am positive have yet to truly immerse, and lose themselves (literally) within this subject.

I agree with that and thank you for that which pushed me to look into it even further with SC and man, EE just takes the fun out of circuits. SC gives you a feel of the atoms themselves, they who do all the work and are just taken for granted while we again venerate electron flow and fields. We are missing such a fun interplay of electric conveyance and we are just thinking "wizzing around". What did you do today? Oh I just wizzed around all day. Too bad. It's like trying to paint a Masterpiece with only two colors.

So here is your final paragraph. Most of what I said above holds here. But I will cut it up so I can hone in on precise matters.

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When the switch opens allowing the cap to charge to the supply potential,

The cap is not charging to the supply potential. The cap cannot charge because the negative potential is too busy trying to run a fan motor and the circuit is always connected so the negative can never rebias the primary or the capacitor circuit. You need both to charge a cap but the cap is positive biased all the time. It never saw the negative potential in all the operation of the device. That cap is now trying to conduct-convey-pass the positive because all the positive wants is to convey to the fan motor that is holding the negative source potential.

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the current, manifesting out of opposition to change in voltage, moves through the serial connected motor and primary, causing the motor to rotate, and exciting the primary.

OK, here I provided clear micro mechanisms. Can you do the same?

Current, the only current when the switch is open will be the conveyance throughput of the capacitor for the positive to hit the fan motor, not its charging because it is in series with the load fan motor and the fan motor is never mechanically loaded so its interruptions will be quick and steady. There is no real chance or time for the cap to load when the switch is open because it will then close again. The device works because the cap wants to be charged but it never really is so the need to be charged becomes a focal point.

So consider this. The feed supply has an amperage and voltage level (power) that will be 1000s of times greater then anything that will be in the capacitor when the switch closes. The capacitor in that closure will be insignificant but the capacitor will see expansion from the closure from the higher amperage through the primary side and that's why its there as a landing post because when closed, the positive now has direct access to both the fan motor and the other side of the capacitor but to get to the capacitor it passes the primary as the real conveyance pulse but now with stronger amperage then the rebias when the switch is open. That "inrush" of conveyance through the primary lands in the capacitor and creates a momentary spike but does not charge it to any higher level because anything higher then the feed supply will be fed back to the feed source.

When the switch opens, the capacitor is now already loaded to the feed supply because of the switch closed primary inrush so when open the rebias of the primary is done completely through its length because it will be heading again past the primary and into the fan motor but there will be an added effect when that happens that I will provide further down.

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The fact that both motor and primary are excited during the cap charging cycle is overlooked by all!
Another overlooked aspect, the cap charging current is not motivated entirely by the supply potential, it is motivated by the induced potential generated by the collapsing field of the coil.

My haunting view is there is no collapsing field needed because the motor is always connected. But if Tesla wanted a collapsing field he would have put a make/break on one of the the motor feed lines so it's completely disconnected from either end while the remaining polarity will reclaim the total motor and that will give you flyback on half the inductance but fast but not from anything collapsing. Why would you want to collapse when you just need to reclaim?

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This "mixing" of energies, (for lack of a more descriptive way of formulating it) how and when it is to be accomplished, and through which circuit(s) it is to propagate through is one of the primary lessons taught by this patent.

I agree but maybe not for the same reasons. If you ask me the ozone patent was a hidden OU device or a unity device. Imagine having instead 4 or 10 primaries in series or in parallel what you could produce and not much more overhead. Look, Tesla could have recited Little Red Riding Hood as the function and they would have given him the patent. Who would or could counter Tesla on the technology in those days? So he made the ozone patent the way he did and described it like he knows the electron crowd wants to read it while he hides the real function in plain view. Call me crazy but this was one of Teslas' secret patents. He must have done the same hiding in many more of his patents as his way of helping posterity by secretly beating the clutches of the New World Order he knew about in the form of Morgan Stanley. He knew he could never discuss free energy in public because of the financial stranglehold he was held under. He is showing how to rebias a primary from one end and biasing it from the other, all with the same polarity that has nothing to do with the power consumption of the fan motor.

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I hope you read this and it clicks...I hope you read this and realize how mistaken you are in thinking that you can perform the tasks which need to be performed without the motor....
Regards

I share the same sentiment but to understand it we have to again cut the fan motor into its active constituents. So the fan motor has a least two high inductance stator coils (HISC) and a rotor with a set number of field coils (XFC) and XFC x 2 number of segments on a commutator. The commutator brushes overlap 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 segments wide so you will always have two field coils in action at all times to push the rotation.

The fan motor has a permanent negative feed supply connected to one of the HISCs. The other HISC is connected to the positive circuit because the negative from the supply will never pass the center point of the rotating field coils.

OK when the switch is open while the rotor is turning, the lower throughput of the capacitor will rebias the primary but the turning rotor will also act as a micro second generator as well that will recharge both the negative of the supply as well as the positive of the supply but to the level of throughput of the capacitor again to then recharge the positive of the battery. This you cannot do with a simple inductor to replace the fan motor. Also the motor rotor acts as a regulator because it has almost no load on the shaft so it turns very fast thus dissipating any excess build up in the fan motor.

To simulate the fan motor electronically in this patent to 90% fidelity, you would require two high inductance coils and in between that at least three small coils A,B and C with switching means to parallel and inline connect and repeat AB, BC, then CA, but you will never have that become a generator at switch off.

Look.......... what is in the patent is for the kindergarten EE crowd of the 1890's. What Tesla hid in the patent was only there for those who really looked. This way he is passing a message to those who want to look deeper. There are ways and effects standard EE will not understand. If you only look at the patent with the standard EE electron flow crutches, you will always stay on the superficial function but if you start taking it apart and using another construct it suddenly comes to life. The Masterpiece shows its true colors and not this bland two color image he hid it behind.

Some smart people hide things on paper where you need special glasses or a UV light to see the hidden writing or message. The same is true if you use another construct as your glasses to see previously ignored functions. You will see the hidden parts come to life. Standard EE electron flow and fields that collapse are like putting on glasses that have only a small hole in the center to constrain your view of our effects to a commercially functional level. I just discovered Spin Conveyance that opens it up full tilt. I could talk about the DC electron flow misnomer in a dc motor such a this one and show you that electron flow is impossible but this would be off topic to the patent discussion, for now.

Sorry again for long winding but I wanted to put this here now and refer others to this part of this thread when required. Yes some will say @wattsup is a crackass mouthpiece, but I don't care anymore. I had to work damn hard to prepare this post and have said what I HAVE to say and for me, even though it may fly above many heads or bang on impenetrable walls, it is my duty to do so, just for the record. This is not to undermine or disrespect @Erfinder or anyone else because he came into our midst at a pivotal time, but I cannot blame myself either for what I see today as how our circuits really work. I just added a full host of colors on my palette and just want to show the full color of our effects. I know the way I am going about it is not academic or a well thought out teaching process with levels of complexity and grading but I am not an academic. @MH may think I am a waste of time. Well, only the future will show and maybe, just maybe these threads will become part of our technical history one day when they finally realize the pertinence and ask "What screw brain half assed flunkie came up with Spin Conveyance and how the hell was he able to see this then?".

But I am not looking for enemies and will no longer entertain undue discord where egos are the main driving force. So don't just say I am an ass. Show your objection with logic, get into the parts, the micro movements, put your finger on the where it does not click and maybe this will even help yourself click more.

@Mags

About the wire blowing in the center, I will have to use the same tactics as Standard EE and provide a discourse using an "Ideal filament" as the example. Maybe that will help because you did not catch the premise. Anything directional, water, air and also if electron flow existed will cause a shift from center point regardless if the ends are somewhat cooler by mass dissipation, that should favor one side more then the other to blow. So again why does it blow in the middle? The light bulb filament is in a vacuum so it will not blow so easily and yes the filament will glow to the limits of the arms holding it but if electron flow was true that glow should also reach one of the arms more then the other because of the piling on effect of electron flow on the exit end of the filament. But it does not because DC hits both ends and glows in the center. AC is total different but the same effect happens and I could get into that at another time.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 21, 2017, 10:18:00 PM

Quote from: Grumage on October 21, 2017, 02:50:28 AM
Hi Mags.

When you open " my messages " there's a tab marked " sent messages " you can then refer to the list.

However.... Only messages that you have " checked/ticked in the box marked " save a copy in my outbox " will be available.

Cheers Graham.

Thanks grum. This whole thing drove me nuts. Just talked to chet and he said he was never able to see his sent messages either. Just used to so many other formats and this one is different. The whole issue began when I clicked on the location link above the quote and it sent me to my profile. I had been posting on a couple threads recently and I forgot that conversation was in pm.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 21, 2017, 10:43:49 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 21, 2017, 03:32:14 AM

There you go.....

Mags...

When we are on the same page, I will say so....I have no problem with that. After reviewing your post, I am positive you will respond stating that you are saying what I am saying....it would be a mistake on your part. Consider that my reply was focused at two specific points in your post. All statements which followed the two statements I responded to were irrelevant.

For the record, you quoted from a exchange I was having with web000x..... (link to the specific post) http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg511505/#msg511505 (http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg511505/#msg511505)
I was was talking to him and not the community. I made a suggestion for him, one which would allow him to experience the motor rotating during the cap charging phase. In his drawing he states:

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"Battery charges cap through an anti-series (anti-series is a term I used in offline discussions with him) coil configuration, creating a magnetic null condition. No motoring during this charging phase."

end quote.

In my response I provided steps which "could" be taken which would enable him to experience motoring during the charging phase. The first step would be to get the system configured right so that it would throw a magnet. To assist him in understanding, I suggested he use a simplified setup (for ease of familiarization), the motor was to be replaced with a coil, the coil had a magnet placed on it. When setup and operated correctly, the cap would charge through the coil and primary, throwing the magnet, and firing a neon placed on the secondary. I concluded this by telling him to replace the coil with a proper motor. I assumed that if he made it this far, this simple experiment would highlight where he went wrong, and he would be back on track with a motor that received motivating impulses during both charging and discharging cycles.

I am only offering my perspective on the subject. I know what I can do. I am only asking folk to "consider" as I always have. Taking what I say out of context will not get you where I want you to be.

Regards

"I was was talking to him and not the community."

If it is in an open thread, there are a lot of people, including you, that interject within others conversations. Is this to say that maybe you should not have taken quotes from me in pm between forest and I and brought it out in open thread? It wasnt personal stuff, but you unknowingly put me in a tizzy for many hours on that. But, what ever...

I can see how there will be currents to motivate the motor with the switch closed, and when its open. Are the currents when the switch is open, more than when the switch is closed? Is there an advantage there? Or is it that the motor is just mainly constantly powered? Its not like I had said that currents in the large inductor ever stop flowing. Along with the motor motoring and would have to say that you could use that output, is the secondary output used by you for other than ozone generation?

In my head, what I can see is when the switch is closed, the cap and primary ring at a high freq, and when the switch is open, being the large inductor/motor would now be the more significant inductance in the big loop, so the freq of oscillation would be lower during the open times. So is the switch time during the open session only as long as it takes to get the cap charged up to a desired potential and then close? Or is that time longer where there is some lower freq operation before it closes again. Either way there would need to be some critical timing in order to have the cap charged up for discharge when it is closed.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 22, 2017, 12:50:22 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 21, 2017, 10:43:49 PM
"I was was talking to him and not the community."

If it is in an open thread, there are a lot of people, including you, that interject within others conversations. Is this to say that maybe you should not have taken quotes from me in pm between forest and I and brought it out in open thread? It wasnt personal stuff, but you unknowingly put me in a tizzy for many hours on that. But, what ever...

I can see how there will be currents to motivate the motor with the switch closed, and when its open. Are the currents when the switch is open, more than when the switch is closed? Is there an advantage there? Or is it that the motor is just mainly constantly powered? Its not like I had said that currents in the large inductor ever stop flowing. Along with the motor motoring and would have to say that you could use that output, is the secondary output used by you for other than ozone generation?

In my head, what I can see is when the switch is closed, the cap and primary ring at a high freq, and when the switch is open, being the large inductor/motor would now be the more significant inductance in the big loop, so the freq of oscillation would be lower during the open times. So is the switch time during the open session only as long as it takes to get the cap charged up to a desired potential and then close? Or is that time longer where there is some lower freq operation before it closes again. Either way there would need to be some critical timing in order to have the cap charged up for discharge when it is closed.

Mags

You have said more than once earlier about the cap charging up to the input voltage. Is that the level of charge you are suggesting we try to achieve? So if the input is 120v, is that the level we should see in the cap before the switch closes? Tesla shows in his diagrams, on the schematic 2 turns on the primary and 3 turns it looks on the physical drawing of such device. So yeah I could understand that the cap with 120v could induce the sec to produce ozone, similar to a standard car spark coil only requiring 12v input from a battery and its not even a cap discharge....

The cap only comes in after the points are released. And that cap in the points system is not just for protecting the points contacts. It becomes an LC with the primary after the switch opens and is absolutely necessary for the burning spark to be achieved, instead of the little pip you would get without the cap in place..

So is it that you would not look at the cap in this device as a high voltage discharge device? Just wondering. Like if the input were 12v and the cap would reach 12v before discharge, we would not consider that a high voltage discharge. Similarly I might not look at 120v in and to the cap as a high voltage discharge. I would think more in the lanes of thousands of volts. Like Tesla connecting a cap bank with 40kv across a bar of copper would make all the metals in the room to emit coronas and sparks. Just want to know where you might draw that line as to what may be considered a HV discharge and a low voltage discharge. If it is a lower voltage discharge device when functioning, then cool, we dont have to get crazy with the voltages on the cap and switch circuits and only worry about the HV on the secondary end.
By the illustration of the cap by Tesla, it looks more massively descriptive as it is a larger capacitance and possibly not in the thousands of volts range and that it is more of a holder of more charge instead.

Back on the 40kv discharge, I wonder if it is really the copper/ iron, whatever bar that releases the effect he had claimed, or was all that produced by the wires/conductors in the cap jars, connecting them in series/parallel, and then the conductors reaching over to the bar and the bar was just the switch. Like trying to run a power saw on a 100ft extension cord made of 18ga wire.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 22, 2017, 03:53:37 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 22, 2017, 03:15:34 AM

The point is, and I am sure you understand, I was talking directly to web00x......you took my comment out of context....I responded open as I knew both of you would read it here.

Excellent...they are there...if you do the test I recommend web00x do, you will experience them.

The electronic savvy will say no.... I say it's more important to consider the difference in the rate of change. When the switch is open, under ideal circumstances, the high inductance circuit can charge the capacitor at a rate equal to or greater than the discharge rate, here we come face to face with another of Teslas' lessons, where self-induction is not an obstacle..

The obvious advantage is the cap charging current motivating the motor, and exciting the primary! Most only consider the cap dump across the primary! To say that the motor is powered constantly is not accurate... This motor is not connected straight across the supply. It receives impulses during very specific instances.

The secondary should not be made to double duty, so no, the output of the transformer is not being used for anything else. When you recognize this circuit for what it is, when you figure out how to generate ozone in the motor, the transformer output can be used for other things!

You see it ringing...and that's where it all stops...you guys aren't listening to anything I say....and are quick to jump onto the useless crap that others have to say, knowing full well that they are nowhere near where I am on the bench! It's not about single sine resonance.... look at the circuit, consider everything that's happening, and more importantly when it's happening.... there is a shit load of mixing going on, mixing implies directly or indirectly that we need to be aware of superimpositions, they change everything.... specifically, the cross section of the so called energy storage coefficient of the entire system.

You are thinking and that is refreshing, however, unfortunately, you are only considering those things which the tech savvy own you with.

Regards

"The obvious advantage is the cap charging current motivating the motor, and exciting the primary!"

It would seem as if the primary might be excited less than the direct discharge of the cap. But if the voltages are similar to the input then the only difference would be the freq of excitation of the primary due to the larger inductance in the mix now. Just from thinking in the box im in for the moment.

"when you figure out how to generate ozone in the motor"

Are you saying the motor itself will produce ozone? The coils of the motor?

" there is a shit load of mixing going on, mixing implies directly or indirectly that we need to be aware of superimpositions, they change everything.... specifically, the cross section of the so called energy storage coefficient of the entire system."

Would have to build it and see what that means. Sounds like mixing freq, but not sure. Would this have anything to do with some of what is said of the tpu?

" you are only considering those things which the tech savvy own you with."

Well there is a lot of info and opinions out there that I have not experienced yet, and many could say the same for themselves. So we willl see how i turn out.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 22, 2017, 05:10:09 AM

Just a little different question ... I'm not an expert ,so please tell me which DC motor can be used in Tesla patents ? It has to be 230V or 120V DC brush motor so it can work directly with main voltage rectified. It has to have coils of armature and rotor connected in parallel. I tested universal motor with some 36V DC but their coils are built to be joined in series.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 22, 2017, 05:46:22 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 22, 2017, 05:35:41 AM

I'm no expert either.... in my experience, the motor can be as simple as a pulse motor... I do not recommend you operate at mains voltage until you have burned a few machines at lower input voltages first....mains level operated machines are not toys, and are not a good place to begin your experience.....

Regards

So would we want a pulse motor that would say run decent enough to operate the switching, not a high torque low ohm style coil(s) for that 12v? Just something that runs nice on it own along with switching friction?
Also, if it is a pulse motor, we should use all coils instead of magnets for a universal motor effect due to ac in the system loop to keep the motor going in all + and - phases of input to the motor?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on October 22, 2017, 06:20:59 AM

The clue lies in the " flying magnet ".

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Grumage on October 22, 2017, 08:20:32 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 22, 2017, 06:44:37 AM

Clue?

For me, personally. Yes.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 22, 2017, 08:38:37 AM

Quote from: Grumage on October 22, 2017, 08:20:32 AM
For me, personally. Yes.

He is questioning what your 'clue' might be.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 22, 2017, 08:49:10 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 22, 2017, 08:46:58 AM

No.... I didn't offer any clue....ergo the question mark....

Well if he think he has found one, I would be interested to hear it.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 22, 2017, 10:19:07 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 22, 2017, 09:00:40 AM

Uh.....I am not speaking in code.... no riddles.... I am not offering hints, or clues.....

Ok. I get it dude. Gees..

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: hoptoad on October 23, 2017, 02:33:17 AM

Just a word here from the unwise. Whether you are making an actual Tesla Ozone Generator replica or a simile solid state circuit based on its switching principle, be very careful of the transformer secondary. It bites!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on October 23, 2017, 08:10:00 AM

Just a comment on charging a cap higher than the supply. It seems video displays that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVK84Z8BSnc

I was wondering would it be hard to use a transistor to do the switching and if you guys might have a schematic ready for the circuit?

Would it even require a transistor or maybe just a zener that shorts to the battery negative, when voltage rises in the cap enough?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: hoptoad on October 24, 2017, 06:01:26 AM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 23, 2017, 03:14:37 AM
...your page was the cause of many sleepless nights....

Sorry I interrupted your slumber, I didn't mean to deprive anyone of their sleep. :(

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I wish you would allow me to return the favor.

I like my slumber, :P and pictures and diagrams, especially schematics, with lots of descriptive words. I'm a visual toad. ;)

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You are far from unwise

Hmmn, I'm not so sure about that....

A recent experience reminded me that safety comes first. I made an unwise bare skin contact with open secondary terminals. I made a stupid assumption about the secondary voltages being reasonably low, so I relaxed my usual HV protocol of 'disconnect the source' first before changing something. Why did I expect the voltage to be low? Because I substituted the low impedance primary / high impedance secondary step up transformer with a higher impedance primary / low impedance secondary step down transformer. The transformer's primary impedance/inductance was still small compared with the series choke used. I also only used a 2uf ceramic cap.

The rectified Stepped Down secondary voltage (unloaded) was still 49 VDC (according to my cheap digital meter). My supply source for the circuit was a run down 12v battery delivering 11 volts to the whole circuit when in operation.

The raw spikes that I felt on contact with the open terminals were likely to be 2 orders of magnitude higher in voltage, but without scopes etc, I can only judge by previous HV shock experience, which proves I didn't learn properly the first time... or the second time...!.

So, be wise all : be careful when experimenting with potentially high voltage circuits. Don't assume your safety and make an ass out of U like I did to me. Cheers.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on October 24, 2017, 10:22:08 AM

Quote from: Belfior on October 23, 2017, 08:10:00 AM
Just a comment on charging a cap higher than the supply. It seems video displays that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVK84Z8BSnc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVK84Z8BSnc)

I was wondering would it be hard to use a transistor to do the switching and if you guys might have a schematic ready for the circuit?

Would it even require a transistor or maybe just a zener that shorts to the battery negative, when voltage rises in the cap enough?

What?
It's easy to charge capacitors to "higher than the supply". Using a switched inductor as in that video you can in fact charge the capacitor (if it can take the voltage!) to a voltage just under the maximum voltage of the inductive spike when the coil is disconnected. You just need a fast, high voltage diode to "trap" the spike voltage on the capacitor. The higher the capacitance of the capacitor the longer it will take to charge up, but using a small capacitance like 1 uF you can charge to the spike voltage very quickly.

What you can then do with the charged capacitor energy is up to you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 24, 2017, 12:15:02 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on October 24, 2017, 10:22:08 AM
What?
It's easy to charge capacitors to "higher than the supply". Using a switched inductor as in that video you can in fact charge the capacitor (if it can take the voltage!) to a voltage just under the maximum voltage of the inductive spike when the coil is disconnected. You just need a fast, high voltage diode to "trap" the spike voltage on the capacitor. The higher the capacitance of the capacitor the longer it will take to charge up, but using a small capacitance like 1 uF you can charge to the spike voltage very quickly.

What you can then do with the charged capacitor energy is up to you.

@all

Exactly. So where's the diode in the Ozone or Ignitor Patent?

Also, how is the capacitor in the ozone patent across the battery? Oh sorry, it is not.

So here is a small bench or brain test for all of you if you want to start considering some other answer to the function.

Take a 12vdc battery and put a 12 vdc bulb across it. Take the simplest volt meter and put the probes across the battery and measure the voltage you are reading. Now switch the probes around and read it again. Now write how the volt meter is connected and those two values down and date and sign the paper so you cannot forget what it was. If you want to be very complete, switch the bulb around as well and do it a second time.

Now if you have a clamp on or inline DC ammeter, you can take a reading from each side as well and include those numbers as well.

Then explain with EE standard electron directional flow theory how you got to those values. No formulas. Just think of the forward electron travel being directional like all those animated circuit programs will show you and explain how you got each one of those Very Simple Readings. So simple one will mock the question but just try it if you can.

So what is the first step to answering this? Yes, how does a simple hand held of VU volt meter really work? That's good. Get that info and make that volt meter operational logic work with the electron flow theory. Good luck to those who try this test.

Start your explanation with something like;

Because dc electricity is electrons that travel in a wire in one direction out from one polarity and into the the other polarity of the battery this is how each reading works in this test........

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 25, 2017, 09:07:37 AM

@Erf

The supply in the ozone patent is Terminals A and B. The capacitor and primary are in series with the fan motor so they are not across the supply since the fan motor adds two high induction stators plus a commutator plus rotor field coils being switched in and out but always having at least two in contact.

Also, Tesla took the time to stress in his drawing that the wires from Terminal A and B are thick, same wires through the cap/primary but look at when it gets to the fan motor shows thin wire meaning even higher resistance to the supply. So when the switch closes, there is resistance in the fan motor but there is also one thick wire going to the primary then the cap. That high amp potential is your primary pulse coil rebias (first pulse). There are other effects that happen yes but minor.

Then in the patent he states "The device hereinafter described is especially designed for direct application to and use with existing circuits carrying direct currents, such as the ordinary municipal incandescent-lighting circuits".

Direct Currents (plural), not direct current (singular). He did not stipulate the + as A and the - as B. He could have connected the device either way and it would have worked the same way with the only exception that the fan blades would need to be angled the other way.

It was only years later that EE decided that DC "flowed" in one direction and still today we have people saying it flows from + to - and others that swear it flows from - to +. But we use diodes to force our directionality whereas Tesla saw both potentials as currents both having their own character and he never talked about directional flow. For Tesla both the + and - feed the circuit. That's why the battery terminals are said to HAVE POTENTIAL. Both terminals and not just one.

If a battery negative never left the battery but always saw the positive potential leading into it, then how is the negative a potential? A potential for what? A potential dumping ground?

Both leave the battery to then try and connect together and basically blow something up. That's what batteries love to do. We just tamed them with our diodes giving only the positive a direction or a path of no return. But they still both leave the terminals and head into the circuit. Once you use this as a base of reading circuits, you will see the circuit is OK, how it works, why it works. So if some can say - to +, others can say + to - and if this divergence does not create the biggest worldwide EE debate of the century, then why is it so hard to then say BOTH + and - leave the battery and get "consumed" at their point of highest inductance=resistance in this case inside the fan motor. You take that perspective, simple and sweet and work the patent functions and it fits perfectly whereas directional DC flow DOES NOT. The patent never says "field collapse". No field collapse. It is only the center point of "contact" between the + and - that meet inside the fan motor that shifts from center (commutator)(when the switch is closed) to a point inside the coil F (when the switch opens) because now the positive potential is resisted by the capacitor thus permitting the negative potential to advance from fan motor center to a point inside coil F. When that advance occurs, it also advances an impulse through the primary (second pulse now conveyed against the first pulse - damped pulse) then into the capacitor as an expansion point but then fed back to the battery. The battery provides two potentials but it accepts potentials as well. The rotary switch connection spike comes from the battery and should not be confused for a capacitor discharge since that capacitor will always bleed back to source making the system very efficient which is what Tesla wanted to hide. Two pulses, conveyed in opposite direction from the positive only, returning power back to the source of both polarities. That is not written in his patent because he could not say anything about the wheelwork in a patent.

Just like the little simple test I previously posted will prove that to all of you once and for all. So now you can prove it for yourself and not take my word for it. So you want to know how the Ozone Patent works, maybe start by knowing how DC works first.

Yes I am long winded because the damn concepts are not easy to describe and they mean our present concepts are faulty. None of that is easy to put on paper. We just are lucky that Tesla put up patents before the modern day electron flow illusions took hold. Also, what I have written compared to what is already written as our EE laws is peanuts. I am just starting.

OK, another point. Just put a steady DC on the primary. What happens to the secondary? Nothing. No output. Keep the DC connected and soon enough the primary will blow somewhere in the center point. But the current is supposed to be flowing from + to - in the primary so why is the secondary just doing nothing? What kind of current is it that flows but does nothing? Or does it flow? Ahha! Does it really flow as they say in a loop out one terminal, through the primary and back to the other terminal, because if it is as they say, then there is no reason for no secondary output.

Keep the DC on the primary and it heats up. What causes the heat? Electrons crashing? No. Vibration hence friction causes heat. What vibrates? The copper atoms? No. They are too busy holding the wire together. What vibrates hence creates friction hence creates heat is the copper atom nuclei. If the nuclei can heat by vibrating, IT CAN CONVEY a vibration down the line as our electricity conveyance works. Electricity was born by conveyance not by magical fields and electrons.

And do not confuse this DC with AC because they are not the same animal. So when the primary is connected, both polarities enter the coil and if it remains connected, the potential quickly seizes the nuclei in the copper atoms holding them in quasi stasis vibration so there is no change hence no output, only heat. Look, give me science that makes sense. Don't just take science at its word because it is pulling a fast one over our eyes. All of our eyes, not just me. I am just the guy that is ringing the alarm bell because I worked it all out during many years so it is not my fault. If the EE construct was not so full of holes, this would not be an issue with me.

The great thing about this is once this clicks in your mind, it will forever change your view of electricity as being nucleic potential that is conveyed from one atom to the next down the line hence you have potential to create inductive imbalances which is what Tesla is playing with in both direction on the primary and not this crazy notion that electricity flows in a circuit in one direction and therefore homogenizes its presence throughout the circuit. That is a crock indeed. That little test I mentioned will prove it to you and I cannot think of anything simpler to try and see it. A simple VU meter and a resistor will prove electricity cannot travel in a wire but is conveyed at varying degrees depending on the components.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 25, 2017, 03:06:24 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on October 25, 2017, 01:13:02 PM

my reaction to this post....it's a recurring reaction....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ)

Yeah them are some long posts. Sorry Watts, but the vid response was funny...

Watts

So in a crt tube say for a color tv.. what in your new electricity theory is it in the so called electron beam that scans the front screen to produce the picture?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: wattsup on October 25, 2017, 05:31:05 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 25, 2017, 03:06:24 PM
Yeah them are some long posts. Sorry Watts, but the vid response was funny...
Watts
So in a crt tube say for a color tv.. what in your new electricity theory is it in the so called electron beam that scans the front screen to produce the picture?
Mags

@Mags

hahaha. That was funny indeed, but to easy an answer.

As for color tv's, once you know the basic function of the beam source, what atoms are used there and on the screen, the sweep principle, then SC will answer all those questions given some time because the nucleic spin of atoms is common in most all atoms. So whatever it is, SC will answer it because it deals with the atoms inbred abilities and not outside fields and whizzing electrons. I know it's hard to accept but ask yourself, is the TV screen made of electrons or atoms? Are what you see on the screen pixels electrons or atoms reacting? If they are atoms, then discover the ability of those atoms because they each have their set of abilities and have no need for electrons and fields.

Also no more long posts since most is already out there and in docs enough to start grasping the concept.

wattsup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AetherOne on February 22, 2018, 09:49:40 AM

Is this thread completely die?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AetherOne on February 22, 2018, 10:09:29 AM

I have spent a lot of time to read almost all conversations there are many valuable knowledge. So sorry if this thread is death.
Common all teachers I want to learn more. Sorry for my English.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on April 18, 2018, 12:31:46 PM

welcome AetherOne,

@Erfinder,

where are you?
seriously, we need to talk?

@All
the secret is so simple!! you would laugh..

rgds
luc2010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on April 18, 2018, 02:28:42 PM

Quote from: luc2010 on April 18, 2018, 12:31:46 PM
welcome AetherOne,

@Erfinder,

where are you?
seriously, we need to talk?

@All
the secret is so simple!! you would laugh..

rgds
luc2010

Test me. I promise not to laugh

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zeca-diabo on May 05, 2018, 04:22:49 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on May 14, 2018, 09:43:33 PM

Another hero who has disappeared and appears as a guest.... bye Erfinder!
and I found the correct connection in the tesla patents where the coil bifilar working as a capacitor in Ozone patent. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on May 15, 2018, 06:11:47 AM

other page dedicated to the ozone patent

http://freenrg.info/TESLA/Tesla_patents_made_simple.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zeca-diabo on June 14, 2018, 03:11:33 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on May 14, 2018, 09:43:33 PM
Another hero who has disappeared and appears as a guest.... bye Erfinder!
and I found the correct connection in the tesla patents where the coil bifilar working as a capacitor in Ozone patent. :D

Is M also bifi like D ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on June 21, 2018, 02:21:54 PM

MAYBE THIS IS A MORE APPROPRIATE SUBJECT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXXEjkwUemI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on June 23, 2018, 07:14:39 AM

QuoteIs M also bifi like D ?

No! Even M And K are one bifi-coil like my schematic that I drew by hand, the perpendicular coil is a high self inductance.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zeca-diabo on June 24, 2018, 01:06:04 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on June 23, 2018, 07:14:39 AM
No! Even M And K are one bifi-coil like my schematic that I drew by hand, the perpendicular coil is a high self inductance.

So, in your schematic the bat is in short? no cap?
For you what is bifi-coil? 1,2 or3? Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on June 25, 2018, 06:22:41 AM

3 ;)

Quote from: zeca-diabo on June 24, 2018, 01:06:04 PM
So, in your schematic the bat is in short? no cap?
For you what is bifi-coil? 1,2 or3? Thanks

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zeca-diabo on June 25, 2018, 02:56:46 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on June 25, 2018, 06:22:41 AM
3 ;)

So, no caps, only coils.
you have to pulse the 2 switches? or only the second?
Where the DIODE goes? on the -, + of bat , in the cut of secondary or at the end of coil?
sorry for my nooby doubts Sir.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on June 27, 2018, 01:16:30 PM

Mi querido amigo yo soy un Novato tambien, yo te surgiero que comience leyendo esto desde la primera pagina poniendo mucha atencion solo a dos persona o heroe que te van a guiar a la verdad, no pierda tu tiempo en otros comentario, yo lo hice y en el 2015 logre hacer y probar mi primer overunity transforme jejeje, pero no compredi muy bien. OK ellos son TiTo L. Oracion y Dave45 e incluso D45 aparece como invitado por eso. Pero yo tengo casis todos sus diagramas y comentario como un libro jajaja.

Observa este diagram que es la forma correcta del primario y luego trata de unir el transmitter y recibe junto del sengundo diagram, toma mucha atencion a la forma de giro de las espiras y eso es todo, por el momento. Dios te bendiga!

tengo probl with the schematic...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on June 27, 2018, 10:34:13 PM

What would happen if I put the transmitter and the receiver together, I mean antenna transmitter and receiver and then
I put the antenna in the union, and I do the same with the junction that goes to ground. Then I use my primary on one
side and secondary on the other side ???? just a thought...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zeca-diabo on June 29, 2018, 01:05:53 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on June 27, 2018, 10:34:13 PM
What would happen if I put the transmitter and the receiver together, I mean antenna transmitter and receiver and then
I put the antenna in the union, and I do the same with the junction that goes to ground. Then I use my primary on one
side and secondary on the other side ???? just a thought...

how do you collect?

Please more...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on June 29, 2018, 03:25:54 PM

My friend, as I told you before, I am not the hero here,
there are two who will guide you to the truth, 1st Tito L. Oracion and Dave45.
Sorry but I'm not.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zeca-diabo on June 29, 2018, 03:48:46 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on June 29, 2018, 03:25:54 PM
My friend, as I told you before, I am not the hero here,
there are two who will guide you to the truth, 1st Tito L. Oracion and Dave45.
Sorry but I'm not.

God bless you, my friend, but they're gone forever, I've come too late ...
Thank you anyway for sharing what you have learned ...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on August 06, 2018, 03:54:28 PM

Listen to what Eric Dollard says about using a capacitor and resistor in parallel across an inductorr, beginning at 49:46. If we had a resonant secondary coil and a pickup coil, the primary's oscillations wouldn't be disturbed, if the secondary was wound properly.
https://youtu.be/XnmL6CwIAv4?t=2985
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on August 06, 2018, 04:25:17 PM

Bob
Did start a topic here for this Video [ricards was intrigued
https://overunity.com/17842/free-video-of-2018-energy-conference/msg524623/#msg524623 (https://overunity.com/17842/free-video-of-2018-energy-conference/msg524623/#msg524623)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on August 25, 2018, 02:19:07 PM

Hello everybody
I know that Energy Amplification is a real possibility,
AC Electricity Multiplication BY GEM=(Geometric Electricity Multiplication) by using variable sized pulleys will work great,
this is so simple that, after you prove that it works to yourself, it will make you realize the powerful SPIRITUAL WARFARE that is going on all around you and your friends + family,,,,
SPIRITUAL WARFARE that is going on behind the scenes,,,,
Think about this, it would only take a few sparks=(short bursts) of DC current to crank over a DC motor one single time.
Now if you had a 100 cm circumference pulley, (about 1 foot in diameter) attached to your drive motor
-

Quote from: zeca-diabo link=pic=6763.msg523132#msg523132 date=1530301726
God bless you, my friend, but they're gone forever, I've come too late ...
Thank you anyway for sharing what you have learned ...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on August 26, 2018, 12:02:17 PM

Hi that_prophet, nice to hear from you again, the spiritual warfare you speak of,
is beyond question from my experience and observations.

Have you tried or do you think any different designs will work, other than pulleys.

What about a 1 foot rotor connected directly to a motor with many magnets
around the periphery of the rotor and generator coils
facing those magnets to generate voltage/current.

This design might be easier to build for many people and should still be able to see results,
even with one coil and 12 or more magnets on rotor.

Everything is on the table as far as possibilities and has been for me, for quite some time now.

peace love light

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on August 27, 2018, 08:29:17 AM

I think mechanically inclined people tend to with pullies and wheels and what not. Then you are always in the mercy of gravity and friction. This means your initial amplifition has to be large. If you can beat resonant rize in a coil please let me know

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on August 27, 2018, 01:01:23 PM

Mechanical resonance can be very destructive. Tesla demonstrated mechanical resonance many times and almost destroyed a skyscraper doing one of his demonstrations. Here is a video of a fairly modern example of mechanical resonance's destructive power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw

Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on August 28, 2018, 06:38:48 AM

citfa, the official term is : resonance catastrophe.
So there is the need to know the specific material issues when using a resonance process.(Eigen-spin,....)
For the good "not to reach the point of no return "(~chain reaction) and a structural collapse or
for the bad(military-strategical-tactical) use this ultra sonic wave swirl force effect to destroy solid material to grain and less to powder [conventional "fall out", non radio-emission(alfa, beta, gamma, delta,...) active]
the so called "mother and father of all bombs technology" : thermobaric-vacuum- bombs/pumps
How works the "Windhex"(Tornado in a can) -crusher?

Do we really do an "ENERGY AMPLIFICATION" or atom-physically a decay(elementary transformation) enforcing by velocity and time accelerating ?
Lorentz Force Transformation is related to KERNKRAFT/NUCLEAR FORCE

LORENTZ F(e) =mcv2 or F(nuclear energy)=mcv2

electro-magnetic F(em)=BIL , common !
F(em)=kBIL k=konstante , unusual ?!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on September 01, 2018, 05:17:46 PM

Have you ever made a single post that actually made any sense?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on September 01, 2018, 07:25:04 PM

Quote from: Belfior on August 27, 2018, 08:29:17 AM
I think mechanically inclined people tend to with pullies and wheels and what not. Then you are always in the mercy of gravity and friction. This means your initial amplifition has to be large. If you can beat resonant rize in a coil please let me know

Have you tried winding it with something like tin or steel and pulsing it very fast and gaps between pulses
let me know if it works !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on September 02, 2018, 02:15:06 PM

For the good of all mankind ;D ;D ;D 8)

Tito always said that it is ignition coil with extra coil :-X

Eight times as great :o :o :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on September 04, 2018, 01:24:23 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on September 02, 2018, 02:15:06 PM
For the good of all mankind ;D ;D ;D 8)

Tito always said that it is ignition coil with extra coil :-X

Eight times as great :o :o :o

Leonelgb,
Nice!
I'm wondering then, how to collect the output of the secondary. Without disturbing the primary's oscillation...

Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on September 04, 2018, 08:04:55 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on September 04, 2018, 01:24:23 PM
Leonelgb,
Nice!
I'm wondering then, how to collect the output of the secondary. Without disturbing the primary's oscillation...

Bob

Bob you are one the few hero who said the true.

OK, "electrostatic induction", electrostatic induction will charge any body to high potential for free, (http://www.amasci.com/emotor/stmiscon.html#eleven).
Tesla realized that this kind of transformer does not conduct or obey the same electricity law well known for that time and now too. He did the coil of the secondary bifila (a coil in series cw and another ccw) and was able to feed lamps, motors etc, just taking one wire from his transformer and connecting to the motor and the other end of the motor would connect it to an iron plate suspended in the air, so you can understand or ask what could be done with the other end of the transformer ... ;D ;D ;D

Like patent 454,622 :D

He could feed the source of the primary 8) ... and the center of the bifilar coil connect it to ground or to the negative of the battery ... That way the transformer or would be running forever hahaha ...

We need to learn more of this transformer(Oscillators)
http://www.teslacollection.com/tesla_articles/1919/electrical_experimenter/nikola_tesla/electrical_oscillators

Bod I now that you Now more than that... Would you like to share with us???

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 04, 2018, 10:30:54 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on September 02, 2018, 02:15:06 PM
For the good of all mankind ;D ;D ;D 8)

Eight times as great :o :o :o

Do not quote what you yourself do not understand.

Yes 8 times as great as a normal transformer but this is NOT overunity. Just like a bifilar coil is many times more effective than standard coil but is NOT overunity.

So instead of raving about your Hero Tito who is in fact a stupid man either outline clearly or shut up

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 04, 2018, 10:36:37 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on September 04, 2018, 08:04:55 PM
Bob you are one the few hero who said the true.

Like patent 454,622 :D

He could feed the source of the primary 8) ... and the center of the bifilar coil connect it to ground or to the negative of the battery ... That way the transformer or would be running forever hahaha ...

Patent 454622 you say?

Even within such patent all things are understandable. Telsa was yes using normal HV wireless transfer. No magic No voodoo but NOT overunity as you imply with comments of "running forever". Running for a long time yes!! Running with greater efficiency? Yes. NOT overunity

Telsa stated - - -

I would here state that by the terms "currents of high frequency and high potential" and similar expressions which I have used in this description I DO NOT MEAN , necessarily, currents in the USUAL ACCEPTANCE OF THE TERM but, generally speaking, electrical disturbances or effects such as would be produced in the secondary source by the action of the primary disturbance or electrical effect.

SO.....

this is much the same effect as Doctor stiffler wireless energy SEC. Very interesting and novel phenomena but not COP greater 1

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nelsonrochaa on September 05, 2018, 06:17:38 AM

Quote from: endlessoceans on September 04, 2018, 10:36:37 PM

Patent 454622 you say?

Even within such patent all things are understandable. Telsa was yes using normal HV wireless transfer. No magic No voodoo but NOT overunity as you imply with comments of "running forever". Running for a long time yes!! Running with greater efficiency? Yes. NOT overunity

Telsa stated - - -

I would here state that by the terms "currents of high frequency and high potential" and similar expressions which I have used in this description I DO NOT MEAN , necessarily, currents in the USUAL ACCEPTANCE OF THE TERM but, generally speaking, electrical disturbances or effects such as would be produced in the secondary source by the action of the primary disturbance or electrical effect.

SO.....

this is much the same effect as Doctor stiffler wireless energy SEC. Very interesting and novel phenomena but not COP greater 1

Energy can not be amplified, but the work made by a portion of energy could be optimized making more work and use less energy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_eja4gmpcY&t=665s

https://youtu.be/Te7NcDY-afQ?t=35

Nelson Rocha

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 05, 2018, 09:34:07 AM

Exactly. There is no ław forbidding the amount of work done. COP of 10 should be easy with properRhumkorf coil

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: marathonman on September 05, 2018, 11:30:44 AM

A standard generator would self sustain if not for the cogging effect (Lenz Law) of the rotor and the stator being pulled back into register when rotating. when at a steady state the current draw on the primaries are reduced to just the IR2 losses as the magnetic field will not except and more magnetic field per the amount of current. once the field is at maximum the current will flow past the coil as if it was a straight piece of wire replacing only the IR2 losses.
using a magnetic field to act upon another while reducing the draw to just the IR2 losses will allow a device to self sustain it's self and the load as long as the system are closed or looped. electricity is Aether pressure modalities thus every electric system from man is a pressure regulated system. when the output draws more current, the resistance on the output side drops and more current will flow thus returning more current to the exciting system creating a more intense field thus continues until the pressure equal to the amount of resistance is equalized.
a very, very small portion of the output is fed back to the excitors and this is done over time as the electric pressure is built up in the system until it is equalized.
this very scenario is what is happening in the Figuera device and many other self sustaining devices thus no name calling in the world can change these facts.
if the input of a device is reused or circulated throughout the exciting system reducing it's draw to just the IR2 losses a device can be made to self sustain whether a status quo person believes it or not. it is quite funny that our entire Universe is a perpetual machine yet there are many NON believers.
that is the key to such a device and each side being closed upon it's self.
Good day gentlemen.
regards,
Marathonman

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 05, 2018, 07:02:03 PM

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on September 05, 2018, 06:17:38 AM
Energy can not be amplified, but the work made by a portion of energy could be optimized making more work and use less energy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_eja4gmpcY&t=665s

https://youtu.be/Te7NcDY-afQ?t=35

Nelson Rocha

Yes so we are saying the same thing. NO OU but efficiency can be increased and useless forms of energy can be converted to make work.

Unfortunately some poor saps have looked at your post and assumed it equated to OU.

Regarding the videos its good work but your power factor calculations are all wrong. Running that 3 phase motor without a load is a simple exercise and youtube is full of such errors

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 05, 2018, 07:06:25 PM

Quote from: forest on September 05, 2018, 09:34:07 AM
Exactly. There is no ław forbidding the amount of work done. COP of 10 should be easy with properRhumkorf coil

Exactly??? Exactly what?

You obviously can't read or understand english Tito. Nelson wasn't talking about OU and a RK coil does not deliver it either.

There is a saying that applies to your foolishness.......

If you always do what you have always done (which is speak uninformed nonsense), then you will always get what you have always got (which is nothing)

Do your research and run some tests instead of talking silly delusions

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 05, 2018, 07:16:26 PM

Quote from: marathonman on September 05, 2018, 11:30:44 AM
A standard generator would self sustain if not for the cogging effect (Lenz Law) .....blah blah blah pseudo scientific theory blah blah
this very scenario is what is happening in the Figuera device and many other self sustaining devices thus no name calling in the world can change these facts.

it is quite funny that our entire Universe is a perpetual machine yet there are many NON believers.
that is the key to such a device and each side being closed upon it's self.
Good day gentlemen.
regards,
Marathonman

Yes and if the air werent there and I had no resistive force and could just live on sunshine in a vacuum....I might also run at infinite speeds :o :o ;D ;D ;D

Do you actually think about what you state as "fact"???? ::) ::) ::) ::)

Show me a Figuera device that is self running. There are NONE!!

No....the Universe is not a perpetual motion machine. Stars are dying after billions of years and collapsing, the energy is converted and displaced elsewhere. Is the Universe a beautiful big balanced clockwork?? YES but it has been placed there by a higher force and intelligence that originally injected that energy.

Stars give the illusion of infinite energy but only because their life span is so incredibly long. Just like the hundreds of youtube claimants that run tests with giant tractor batteries and show minimal voltage drop....and yet not ONE SINGLE one of them can self loop.

Is free energy available from our environment? YES absolutely!!. Is this OU and something from nothing? NO

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 06, 2018, 01:07:41 AM

Quote from: endlessoceans on September 04, 2018, 10:30:54 PM

Do not quote what you yourself do not understand.

Yes 8 times as great as a normal transformer but this is NOT overunity. Just like a bifilar coil is many times more effective than standard coil but is NOT overunity.

So instead of raving about your Hero Tito who is in fact a stupid man either outline clearly or shut up

You know what i'ved done nothing to you boy >:(
i've already taking my peace. and still attacking me.
why can't you do your own.
your like a kitten that want to fart that cannot continue. hahahhahhahhahahhahhaha ;D

you know what!!!!? >:( >:( >:(
an excess of only one electron is actually a sign of amplification.
well i know you don't know that. :P

ladies and gentlemen overunity, free energy is real :) [size=78%].[/size]
don't believe to endless ocean. because even his username is overunity he just can't get it. :D ;D :P

just a realization okay. ;)

here is my gift to all of you even to you endless ocean since you are making your name in my thread ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voHGyN93Ru4
credits to tinman. your very kind friend. :) ;)

i just came a cross, i won't answer anymore and go to your level anymore sorry. :P

Good day God Bless everyone. :-*
ended ocean ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 06, 2018, 01:19:27 AM

Hey Tito.
How have you been? :D
In that vid, I dont believe Tinman is expressing that there is more 'energy' out than in. We have gone over a lot in recent years and most or say even all have come to the same conclusion, at least on that end of the spectrum.
Still looking though.
Hope all is well. God's not dead. ;D 1 and 2 are great movies in case you havnt seen them. ;)
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on September 06, 2018, 01:27:12 AM

don't kill dipole : tom bearden way is basic 'free' energy device. Tito ...

the trick is to take that blowing wind from your power source, your voltage source, and divert the part you're not using to do useful work somewhere else. So, you want to use your voltage source to cause charge carriers to move such that they don't end up in your voltage source.

create a current trough your load that cannot reach your battery. You use the "wind" created by your battery to move charge carriers around that do not reach your battery...

get a coil into resonance such that you don't have to pay for the current that goes trough the load. This circuit drives the coil into resonance using a different technique, but you still have the load current going *outside* of your driving circuitry!

source : http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6521-dont-kill-dipole-8.html#post113646

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on September 06, 2018, 01:28:32 AM

endlessoceans

QuoteNo....the Universe is not a perpetual motion machine. Stars are dying after billions of years and collapsing, the energy is converted and displaced elsewhere. Is the Universe a beautiful big balanced clockwork?? YES but it has been placed there by a higher force and intelligence that originally injected that energy.

Can you name anything anywhere in the known universe which is not in perpetual motion?, you cannot thus perpetual motion should be self-evident.

On stars, yes they die by turning into massive red giants radiating matter and energy outward into space. However like many people your argument is completely one sided. Gravity ensures that all that matter and energy radiated into space must gravitate towards other matter which forms new stars repeating an endless cycle. Yes stars die however stars are also born ensuring perpetual motion so far as we know.

Then you mention a higher force and intelligence that originally injected that energy... prove it. Should we believe anyone who claims there is no such thing as OU then implies a god created the whole universe from absolutely nothing?. Why not say OU is impossible because nothing can just create something from absolutely nothing but that you also believe a bearded man in a white dress can pull a rabbit out of a hat... without a hat.

I get really tired of all the hypocrites saying OU is impossible because thinking something can be created from nothing is stupid. Then in the same breath say they believe a bearded man in a white dress created the whole universe from nothing because he loves them. So which is it?, can something be created from nothing?... because you can't have it both ways.

Like many others you seem to be cherry picking events and facts, directly contradicting your own claims and beliefs and mixing it all together in one big incoherent pail of nonsense. It should be obvious that if anyone actually believed in the conservation of energy and mass then they cannot believe in a magical god creating a whole universe from absolutely nothing... period. So which is it... do you believe in the creation of something from nothing or not?.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on September 06, 2018, 01:36:06 AM

welcome ... titonium ;)

endlessocean is monster mouth shit.
only talk... have no experiment.
only judge ... have no silent mind

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 06, 2018, 01:59:19 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 06, 2018, 01:19:27 AM
Hey Tito.
How have you been? :D
In that vid, I dont believe Tinman is expressing that there is more 'energy' out than in. We have gone over a lot in recent years and most or say even all have come to the same conclusion, at least on that end of the spectrum.
Still looking though.
Hope all is well. God's not dead. ;D 1 and 2 are great movies in case you havnt seen them. ;)
Mags

Hi bro. God has been very good to me.
He let me to discover the best of the best. :)

well, the vid i showed is the nearest thing to the real thing. :)
i just realized and discover the real thing last august 2017 that is 9 years of full research.
and you know what bro?, the secret is nothing but a piece of wire. i really can't stop laughing in that day. :D
the output should like a whirlwind a tornado a typhoon a blackhole they have all one principle actually, a superior in its nature really a good source of energy. 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YrhLv2vzVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no-WTGgJ740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfG2-FFL6fY

to someone :-*
again if i made someone to become angry, well i'm sorry maybe thats part of everything hehe. :D

once again just a realization, you can get it. ;)

though i made you angry also, well, you are still my friend ok?. ;) :-*

Thank you for everything and for accommodation here.

i'm afraid this is my last post. mark it ;) ;D :)

God bless you all.
otiots ;D [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MagnaProp on September 06, 2018, 02:28:45 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 06, 2018, 01:59:19 AM
...i just realized and discover the real thing last august 2017 that is 9 years of full research.
and you know what bro?, the secret is nothing but a piece of wire. i really can't stop laughing in that day. :D ...

Hi Tito. Forgive me for being a newb but I am not familiar with your work. Do you have a thread post where you display some of your journeys with electronics?

I hope you are able to share what you found out in some way, some day. I am very curious and with to learn more about this "piece of wire" that you discovered.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on September 06, 2018, 02:45:13 AM

Tito

QuoteHi bro. God has been very good to me.
He let me to discover the best of the best.

Oh you finally got paid?... good for you my friend.
As the good book say's...Blessed are those who retire wealthy while the masses wallow in starvation and misery. We are not angry my friend, it must be Gods will that we should take as much as we can for ourselves and leave the rest for dead. God bless you and when the environment turns toxic, society collapses upon itself and many turn cannibal I hope you are content and happy. Hallelujah brother and God bless you.

Quotei'm afraid this is my last post. mark it

Didn't you say your last post was your last post?, no wait it was your post before that which was your last post or that one two years ago. Damn I get so confused because obviously I am not blessed like you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 06, 2018, 08:25:22 AM

If i could add anything I propose to .... Transformator zamiast cewki plus dioda na wtórnym. Dioda musi blokować Bemf czyli Bemf nie powodować prądu indukcyjnego na wtórnym. Potem zostaje tylko jedna modyfikacja i mamy co Tito proponował w 2008 chyba

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 06, 2018, 09:54:17 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 06, 2018, 01:07:41 AM

i just came a cross, i won't answer anymore and go to your level anymore sorry. :P

Good day God Bless everyone. :-*
ended ocean ;D

Poor little TITS.. you seem upset??

Huh....interesting....you told us you would never post again and yet you are here again for the 1000th time talking nonsense . You obviously can't see the difference between voltage and wattage.

Ohhhh.....also you only discovered the secret to OU in August 2017 you say?? Wow....amazing so for 7 years before that you have been telling people here you know the secret and posting silly youtube known hoaxes because YOU KNEW FOR SURE that OU exists!!!! :o :o :o :o :o

Interesting

Anyway....you go back to pretending and talking through your other alter egos here like forest and lenlogb LOL ;) ;) ;) ;)

You magnificent Liar

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on September 06, 2018, 10:05:06 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 06, 2018, 01:59:19 AM

Hi bro. God has been very good to me.
He let me to discover the best of the best. :)

well, the vid i showed is the nearest thing to the real thing. :)
i just realized and discover the real thing last august 2017 that is 9 years of full research.
and you know what bro?, the secret is nothing but a piece of wire. i really can't stop laughing in that day. :D
the output should like a whirlwind a tornado a typhoon a blackhole they have all one principle actually, a superior in its nature really a good source of energy. 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YrhLv2vzVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no-WTGgJ740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfG2-FFL6fY

to someone :-*
again if i made someone to become angry, well i'm sorry maybe thats part of everything hehe. :D

once again just a realization, you can get it. ;)

though i made you angry also, well, you are still my friend ok?. ;) :-*

Thank you for everything and for accommodation here.

i'm afraid this is my last post. mark it ;) ;D :)

God bless you all.
otiots ;D [size=78%] [/size]

you said you had the real thing on December 9 of 2009

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 06, 2018, 10:26:10 AM

What he had was using battery now its different I think

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 06, 2018, 06:05:40 PM

Quote from: forest on September 06, 2018, 10:26:10 AM
What he had was using battery now its different I think

Oh hello Tits back again already??? ;D

The charade is up you liar

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on September 07, 2018, 01:51:01 AM

the extreme electric field pulse caused by the HV discharge of the cap bank into the coil trough a diode gives you a magnetic field you can use for free

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 07, 2018, 10:23:44 AM

exactly densama exactly

Tito said truth (I'm not Tito unfortunately).
Now I can write in English (previously I wrote on tablet which corrected automatically words into Polish so I couldn't do that).
If you take the video Tito posted you would find something interesting....you must use the higher voltage available in capacitor to create sudden discharge, then secondary and a diode (or later diode bridge) to store induced current back to battery. You will find battery overloaded or even may explode. That's why Richard Willis used old flat batteries and the same you find in Tito schematic. This is the same method as used in Edwin Gray

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 07, 2018, 10:25:03 AM

anybody ready to show us a working circuit now ??? >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 08, 2018, 05:01:36 AM

Quote from: onepower on September 06, 2018, 02:45:13 AM
Tito
Oh you finally got paid?... good for you my friend.
As the good book say's...Blessed are those who retire wealthy while the masses wallow in starvation and misery. We are not angry my friend, it must be Gods will that we should take as much as we can for ourselves and leave the rest for dead. God bless you and when the environment turns toxic, society collapses upon itself and many turn cannibal I hope you are content and happy. Hallelujah brother and God bless you.
Didn't you say your last post was your last post?, no wait it was your post before that which was your last post or that one two years ago. Damn I get so confused because obviously I am not blessed like you.

ok!!!!! >:( broke my promise again!!! >:( >:( >:(

NO ONE PAID ME OKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
SUPPOSE TO BE MY LAST IS LAST BUT !!!!!!!! THEY KEPT ON PROVOKING ME AND ATTACKING EVEN I AM RESTING, GOT IT? >:( >:( >:(

GOD GAVE ME THIS MAYBE BECAUSE I KEPT ON DIGGING AND I'M DOING IT FOR MY FAMILY. GOT IT?
YOU MEAN TO SAY AFTER LOT OF DIGGING AND EXPERIMENT AND SPEND A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE RESEARCH JUST GIVE IT TO YOU JUST LIKE THAT ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ? :o :o :o :o :-\
AFTER A LOT OF PEOPLE INSULTED AND PROVOKE ME? ??? HUH. DO YOU GET IT MISTER? ??? ? >:( [size=78%] [/size]

OF COURSE I WANT TO BRING MY FAMILY FIRST TO ENJOY MY DISCOVERY!!!!!!!!!! >:(
YOU KNOW WHAT?, YOU WERE LUCKY BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY DO THAT, I STILL GIVE HERE SOMETHING TO THINK FOR EVERYONE TO DIG MORE.

UNNNNNDDDDERSSSSTTTTTAND!!!!!!!!!! >:(

OK LET ME HELP AGAIN BEFORE I GOT IT I'M WATCHING THIS TESLA INTERVIEW, AT TIME 4:50 TESLA TALK ABOUT BLACKHOLE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olHsobVItrs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olHsobVItrs)
AND FROM THERE I DIG AGAIN AND AGAIN MY RESTLESS BRAIN ALWAYS WANT ME TO READ AND WATCH MORE AND MORE.
COMBINING EVERYTHING IN MY HEAD. I AM ACTUALLY IN MY THINKING CHAIR WHEN I GOT IT, VERY FUNNY, THEY THOUGHT I'M CRAZY BECAUSE I SHOUTED A VERY LOUD AND LOUGH ;D
THEN I WATCH THIS TOM BEARDEN INTERVIEW. YOU LISTEN IN SCALAR POTENTIAL DISCUSSION AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT OK. :)
AT TIME 9:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJY8XqFnAyg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJY8XqFnAyg)
HURRYUP YOU SAVE THESE VIDEOS, CAUSE THEY ARE TRUTH. :)

WE DON'T NECESSARY NEED A VERY HIGH VOLTAGE OK. :)

THE DISTURBANCE PRODUCE VOLTAGE BY THE MAGNIFYING TRANSMITTER IS VERY SMALL WHEN WE RECEIVED IT OK? BUT OUR RECEIVER MUST BE DIFFERENT, AND THAT RECEIVER DESIGN WAS HIDE BY TESLA CAUSE ITS VERY SIMPLE AND TRICKY HEHE. :D

SO LOOOOOOOOONG EVERYONE KEEP DIGGING BE CAREFULL :)

BYE NOW ;D

GOD BLESS
NOICARO L. OTIT ;D

HERE IS YOUR BONUS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95Cnp0wfQsY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95Cnp0wfQsY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPyUtHtmJMQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPyUtHtmJMQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lSMl-ffcog (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lSMl-ffcog)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DB18NJrMQU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DB18NJrMQU)

Look at the handsome guy here he looks like me. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_2K5nTeosA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_2K5nTeosA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K5Wn4bBMIc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K5Wn4bBMIc)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on September 08, 2018, 05:35:23 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 08, 2018, 05:01:36 AM

ok!!!!! >:( broke my promise again!!! >:( >:( >:(

NO ONE PAID ME OKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
SUPPOSE TO BE MY LAST IS LAST BUT !!!!!!!! THEY KEPT ON PROVOKING ME AND ATTACKING EVEN I AM RESTING, GOT IT? >:( >:( >:(

GOD GAVE ME THIS MAYBE BECAUSE I KEPT ON DIGGING AND I'M DOING IT FOR MY FAMILY. GOT IT?
YOU MEAN TO SAY AFTER LOT OF DIGGING AND EXPERIMENT AND SPEND A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE RESEARCH JUST GIVE IT TO YOU JUST LIKE THAT ?????????????????????? :o :o :o :o :-\
AFTER A LOT OF PEOPLE INSULTED AND PROVOKE ME???? HUH. DO YOU GET IT MISTER????? >:( [size=78%] [/size]

OF COURSE I WANT TO BRING MY FAMILY FIRST TO ENJOY MY DISCOVERY!!!!!!!!!! >:(
YOU KNOW WHAT?, YOU WERE LUCKY BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY DO THAT, I STILL GIVE HERE SOMETHING TO THINK FOR EVERYONE TO DIG MORE.

UNNNNNDDDDERSSSSTTTTTAND!!!!!!!!!! >:(

OK LET ME HELP AGAIN BEFORE I GOT IT I'M WATCHING THIS TESLA INTERVIEW, AT TIME 4:50 TESLA TALK ABOUT BLACKHOLE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olHsobVItrs
AND FROM THERE I DIG AGAIN AND AGAIN MY RESTLESS BRAIN ALWAYS WANT ME TO READ AND WATCH MORE AND MORE.
COMBINING EVERYTHING IN MY HEAD. I AM ACTUALLY IN MY THINKING CHAIR WHEN I GOT IT, VERY FUNNY, THEY THOUGHT I'M CRAZY BECAUSE I SHOUTED A VERY LOUD AND LOUGH ;D
THEN I WATCH THIS TOM BEARDEN INTERVIEW. YOU LISTEN IN SCALAR POTENTIAL DISCUSSION AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT OK. :)
AT TIME 9:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJY8XqFnAyg
HURRYUP YOU SAVE THESE VIDEOS, CAUSE THEY ARE TRUTH. :)

WE DON'T NECESSARY NEED A VERY HIGH VOLTAGE OK. :)

THE DISTURBANCE PRODUCE VOLTAGE BY THE MAGNIFYING TRANSMITTER IS VERY SMALL WHEN WE RECEIVED IT OK? BUT OUR RECEIVER MUST BE DIFFERENT, AND THAT RECEIVER DESIGN WAS HIDE BY TESLA CAUSE ITS VERY SIMPLE AND TRICKY HEHE. :D

SO LOOOOOOOOONG EVERYONE KEEP DIGGING BE CAREFULL :)

BYE NOW ;D

GOD BLESS
NOICARO L. OTIT ;D

HERE IS YOUR BONUS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95Cnp0wfQsY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPyUtHtmJMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lSMl-ffcog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DB18NJrMQU

[size=78%]
[/size]
[size=78%] [/size]

I'm happy that you're back ;D ;D ;D
In your absence, I had to follow by own, and I have learning too, but just a little bit :-\
but always thankful of God, because He is good! ;D ;D ;D

Thank you too!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 08, 2018, 07:16:56 AM

Again we stop talking about the solution and this thread again become useless....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on September 08, 2018, 07:02:14 PM

And you can't even buy it, (the solution)... off of the Philipino guy, cuz it ain't "For Sale".
If you wait... long enough. You'll be able to buy whatever we need to generate our own "Juice".
But, a solid state "solution" would be best, with no moving parts. NO noise, smog, or nuclear radiation(s).
None of us, with few exceptions, know how to do it, much less to make something like that, for real.And maybe that's why we are here, listening, learning, and building some circuits up.

Tito: Thanks for the tips, and reminder. And I hope that someday you will get paid, OK...

Pura Vida, from Costa Rica. NickZ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 08, 2018, 11:39:59 PM

Lets say we have a 1 to 1 ratio transformer. In reference we will say 100 turns pri and 100 turns sec. Now on the primary we will for this discussion have taps at every 25 turns. Five wires out to apply input. Also, we can separate the 100 windings electrically at each tap.
If we apply 100vac(no specifics as to the freq and such, just working with Vin vs Vout. What ever freq works well with the particular transformer we make) to the pri input terminals 1 and 5(100turns), we should read 100v on the sec. Correct?

Now if we make a separation at tap 3 of the primary (lets label them 3a and 3b when separated) and apply an input of 50vac across pri terminals 1 and 3a(50turns. turns 1 thru 50 tap 3a) for a literal 50/100 ratio, we should still have 100vac out on the sec. Correct?

Ok. Now we take tap 1 of the pri and connect it to the tap 3b connection that is on the windings that were separated from turns 1 thru 50 at the tap 3 separation point, and we connect the tap 3a to tap 5. Here we will have put the 2 separate windings 1 to 50 in parallel with windings 51 to 100. what would the VAC on the sec be if we apply 50vac to the parallel primary windings??? If 1 winding 1-50 has 50vac across it and winding 51-100 has 50vac across it, would that be different than 100vac across tap 1 and 5 where tap 3a and 3b are connected as in the first test above?

Now we have 2 isolated sets of pri windings but disconnected from each other at tap 3. So tap 1 and tap 3a are turns 1-50, and tap 3b and tap 5 atr turns 51 to 100 and we apply 2 isolated inependent 50vac inputs(both in phase with eachother), 1 to each winding for 50vac across 1-3a and the other across 3b-5. What would the sec voltage be now? Is it the same as just 100vac across the primary taps 1-5, 1-1 ratio because the taps 1-5 would read 100vac because the 2 independent supplies are virtualy in series?

Just cant get a grip on why the 2 windings in parallel, basically having 50vac across each in either situation would show any difference in output.

Thinking on a project that i need to fully understand this before i can continue. Got me to thinking on the e-field stuff as i can so far only come up with that as a reason. Not sure yet. Depending on what responses I get on this, it may open up an idea to take advantage of a bifilar coil. Lets see....

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 09, 2018, 04:45:09 AM

Simple version....
A transformer with 2 primary windings of 50 turns each and a secondary of 100 turns.
First we apply 50vac across just a isolated primary of 50 turns. Sec should have 100vac out
Second we connect the 2 primaries in series and apply 100vac to the primary of 100turns total. Sec should have 100vac out.
Third we put the 2 primary windings in parallel and apply 50vac in. Now, if each primary winding had 50v across each winding, whether it is the 2 windings is series with 100vac applied, or 50vac across each paralleled winding, why would there be a difference in output for each test? 50vac across each primary winding in either case 'should' have the same currents through each winding, thus the same magnetic field result in each case. No???
I think this needs to be understood better. For me anyway.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 09, 2018, 05:15:10 AM

Hmm. Saying there is a difference in output isnt what I meant... Sorry. Its the fact that say 50vac across 1 primary gives us 100vac out of the sec, and why wouldnt there be a difference in output of the sec when we parallel the second primary with the other? Just seems to me that adding the second primary with the first primary at 50vac in would have more turns of primary with the same voltage across each turn for each case, 1 primary at 50vac vs 2 primaries in parallel with 50vac in. Why isnt there a difference in sec voltage from 1 case to the other.

Ok. Just rethinking this... There is something about this that is driving me a lil batty. lol And it has to do with the bifi coil. Im beat. Will try to put what Im thinking together tomorrow.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 09, 2018, 05:33:48 AM

2 50 turn primaries and 100 turn sec.

50vac across 1 primary winding of 50 turns. 1v across each turn. Sec 100turns, 100vac, 1v across each turn.
Now parallel the 2 50 turn primaries. Now its 100 individual turns of 1v each turn, but still 100vac out on the sec, 1v each sec turn.
If we had 10 primary windings in parallel of 50 turns each and 50vac in, that would be 500 turns of 1 vac on each turn, still only 100vac on the sec. Doesnt it seem odd?
I dunno. maybe im just :o :-\ ::) at the moment.

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 09, 2018, 05:45:26 AM

Ok. Final for tonight...
So in any transformer, every 'single turn', primary and secondary are the same vac. Basics, but I just have something on the tip of my mind with the bifi on this thats bugging me. Ok, so now im going to apply that to my bifi project and see what happens.
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: gyulasun on September 09, 2018, 06:01:03 AM

Hi Mags,

I assume in your example the L inductance of primary coil 1 equals to that of primary 2 within an accuracy of a few %, say +/- 1-2%. If you are thinking of making the two primaries bifilarly, then the L inductances will be quasi identical if measured separately.

Now if you mean the two primaries will be paralleled by connecting the two start wires together and also connecting the two end wires also together and feed the now single start wire and the now single end wire with the 50 VAC, then you will surely have 100 VAC out of the secondary again: what you have is still a 1:2 step up transformer which has a primary coil wound with a thicker wire versus the case when you fed only one of the primaries with 50 VAC and also had 100 VAC across the secondary. You simply reduced the copper loss in the primary coil (less heat will develop in the transformer). You may also say that a little bit more current would be used for the AmperTurns to create the magnetic flux: the overall efficiency of the thransformer improves a little. Does this make sense for you?
Gyula

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 09, 2018, 07:27:49 AM

Just one question (again) Tito : can this be made in low voltage electronic circuit as a proof example or it works only in hv ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on September 09, 2018, 08:04:56 AM

walla .. discusion get back ... around .. around .. again. I think someone trying hard made this forum go to confuse everyone very silently. Someone trying to misdirection tito clue with unrelated topic that seem related about energy amplification ... just practice and forget your 'education'. Tito find it by practice and insight and humility. Not by academic pride

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on September 09, 2018, 05:02:47 PM

Tito is "Zilano". Same kinda windup

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on September 10, 2018, 12:40:34 AM

secret of sm, "its the igniter patent of nikola tesla"

make a little modification ofcourse, i`ve made three parallel coil to the one that become high voltage and put a 3 collector perpendicular to that high voltage and thats it just like a tranformer, it gives unlimited energy and it is very controllable, and by dumping the one collector to the capacitor it becomes self powered, just a matter of on and off relay or reed relay, dont forget to use zener diode at least 3v.

try to make coil combination

read the interview of sm and he says "kick is the secret"
in the first place how to produce kicks? and i've searched the patent of nikola tesla, igniter patent gives all the answer.
using low voltage to high or unlimitted voltage is being produce.

https://overunity.com/5975/stefan-and-newman-motor/15/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 10, 2018, 04:56:28 AM

Everything is out in line again sorry :(

just do this instead. :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnPlPWTkh1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8HmRLCgDAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2N_0vyVdXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njNYuEKW-ek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5ZbiQmxEQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXsnttTLcQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COLvZ4LA9Ws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZbeTIYfVuM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXxcDZLlgsI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHTOVcgooqI

like what i said awhile ago, we can only receive small voltage from the atmosphere ok! :)

sorry friends, i think, i won't reply anymore, lot of things to do.

I am not zilano ok. :)

bye buddy :) :-*

hope it helps :( [size=78%] [/size] :'(

God bless all of you :)
The holy spirit is really our teacher , learn how to become sensitive in His teachings. ;) 8)
oteits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on September 10, 2018, 05:39:59 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 10, 2018, 04:56:28 AM
Everything is out in line again sorry :(

just do this instead. :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnPlPWTkh1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8HmRLCgDAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2N_0vyVdXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njNYuEKW-ek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5ZbiQmxEQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXsnttTLcQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COLvZ4LA9Ws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZbeTIYfVuM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXxcDZLlgsI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHTOVcgooqI

like what i said awhile ago, we can only receive small voltage from the atmosphere ok! :)

sorry friends, i think, i won't reply anymore, lot of things to do.

I am not zilano ok. :)

bye buddy :) :-*

hope it helps :( [size=78%] [/size] :'(

God bless all of you :)
The holy spirit is really our teacher , learn how to become sensitive in His teachings. ;) 8)
oteits ;D

so you are just an exact copy of Zilano? "I have the answer" and then you don't tell what it is. You keep people tied to the thread for 7 years and then change the anagram and move to a different forum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 10, 2018, 05:55:21 AM

Quote from: Belfior on September 10, 2018, 05:39:59 AM
so you are just an exact copy of Zilano? "I have the answer" and then you don't tell what it is. You keep people tied to the thread for 7 years and then change the anagram and move to a different forum.

oh buddy i'm so sorry but i am just so happy to tell everyone that free energy is real. :)
and it is very thrilling working with something that is true an real.

i am not teasing everyone ok, i am encouraging them that it is true and real. cause if i will reveal it then no more thrill and satisfaction ok.

hope you understand bro. :)

well, i understand you also but that is my way and that's my right!. :)

bye bro. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on September 10, 2018, 07:05:57 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on September 10, 2018, 07:34:46 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 10, 2018, 05:55:21 AM

oh buddy i'm so sorry but i am just so happy to tell everyone that free energy is real. :)
and it is very thrilling working with something that is true an real.

i am not teasing everyone ok, i am encouraging them that it is true and real. cause if i will reveal it then no more thrill and satisfaction ok.

hope you understand bro. :)

well, i understand you also but that is my way and that's my right!. :)

bye bro. :)

I understand. CU soon ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 10, 2018, 10:12:25 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on September 08, 2018, 05:35:23 AM
I'm happy that you're back ;D ;D ;D
In your absence, I had to follow by own, and I have learning too, but just a little bit :-\
but always thankful of God, because He is good! ;D ;D ;D

Thank you too!!!

Hello Tito

Talking to yourself is always a sign of madness :D :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 10, 2018, 10:13:40 AM

Quote from: forest on September 08, 2018, 07:16:56 AM
Again we stop talking about the solution and this thread again become useless....

Hello Tito

Don't worry....the thread was always useless. You made it that way with your lies

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 10, 2018, 10:15:06 AM

Quote from: densama on September 09, 2018, 08:04:56 AM
walla .. discusion get back ... around .. around .. again. I think someone trying hard made this forum go to confuse everyone very silently. Someone trying to misdirection tito clue with unrelated topic that seem related about energy amplification ... just practice and forget your 'education'. Tito find it by practice and insight and humility. Not by academic pride

Oh hello Tito. Another new name!!! LOL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 10, 2018, 10:17:23 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 10, 2018, 04:56:28 AM
Everything is out in line again sorry :(

like what i said awhile ago, we can only receive small voltage from the atmosphere ok! :)

sorry friends, i think, i won't reply anymore, lot of things to do.

I am not zilano ok. :)

bye buddy :) :-*

hope it helps :( [size=78%] [/size] :'(

Ohhhh back again under the original monika. Until next time your frustration peaks I guess

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 10, 2018, 06:34:26 PM

Quote from: endlessoceans on September 10, 2018, 10:13:40 AM
Hello Tito

Don't worry....the thread was always useless. You made it that way with your lies

I'm just wondering why are you doing this to me?
Who sent you?
Why so mad at me?
Really trying to destroy my credibility huh
Really trying to make everyone to believe that free energy isnot real huh
Your the liar
I think your from the electric company hehehe
Where is stefhan? Why he is not doing something abou t him
Everyone please report this liar

I Maybe playfull but i'm not a liar ok?

You know what, we can be friends.
I'm a friendly person

Bye

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on September 11, 2018, 01:19:26 PM

Hi Teets! ;D
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on September 14, 2018, 06:38:05 AM

i just like to repeat tito insight clue by smallest clue ...

tito said : Actually for me its not the rate of discharge that is important here, its the arrangement of capacitor discharging separate from the source to the coil, tom bearden showed it many times actually.and i got success on it!. did you try discharging many caps sequentially on a coil? and charging them sequentially also?
take note: NO BATTERY DISCHARGING!
based of titonium post https://overunity.com/6734/real-ou-effect-to-share-with-everyone/270/

and Tom Bearden said this in the Final Secrets of Overunity ??? ... that the charge AND discharge process is totally separated and isolated from the "collection-from-the-source" process (http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/Final%20Secret%20of%2015%20Feb%201994/index.html)

and hope someone add some small insight about tom bearden circuit arranggement below in simple and understanable language :

wattsup hope clear up this. Tito always said about circuit arranggement

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on September 14, 2018, 07:10:22 AM

still can't get the picture with wattsup voltage graber circuit. What is connection with tom bearden circuit charged and discharged isolated circuit with wattsup VGC circuit in the context titonium energy amplification design

is there some input ... brother to interpret tom bearden and wattsup in another simple circuit design :o

'Basically it would use several stages, charging small capacitors one by one, then putting them in series to discharge them all into a larger capacitor, then doing it again and discharging into another larger capacitor, etc.'
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=307.75

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on September 14, 2018, 07:42:48 AM

If your load is pulling power 60 times per second and your input is doing 9000V 31000 times per second you got a lot of time to charge caps and move electricity through a transformer

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on September 14, 2018, 09:03:54 AM

This thread is supposed to be about free energy not a deviants street wise scoring board for bully's

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: TinselKoala on September 14, 2018, 03:13:02 PM

These teachers would be a lot more believable if they could just go ahead and demonstrate what they are teaching about how to get "overunity" or "free energy".

But sadly.... they cannot. :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on September 14, 2018, 03:51:59 PM

Quote from: TinselKoala on September 14, 2018, 03:13:02 PM
These teachers would be a lot more believable if they could just go ahead and demonstrate what they are teaching about how to get "overunity" or "free energy".

But sadly.... they cannot. :'(

Perhaps or perhaps not, So why are so many who have tried to sell what they claim to be working devices, been murdered ? And Tesla didn't seam to think the task wasn't all that difficult and there is the thing about the speed of light
he was of the opinion radiant energy did travel and behaved quite differently to the patent he showed Marconi perhaps you could tell us what the difference is between the two ? ::)

A Mr wango jango of Tesla fame on youtube or similar name talks about when a power supply is switched on voltage
appears at light speed but I is dependant on the transductance of the material used (and not a mallard in sight, me duck)
what tests could be made to verify this phenomenon ? hmm ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on September 14, 2018, 07:37:30 PM

http://www.penguinslab.com/capdish.htm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on September 15, 2018, 07:03:17 AM

Theorie fuer das Kanarev'che Pulse'duty cycle'power Verstaendnis,GHz,THz bis zu PHz(Fermionen)

http://programmedlessons.org/VectorLessons/vch07/vch07_5.html (http://programmedlessons.org/VectorLessons/vch07/vch07_5.htmlhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern%E2%80%93Gerlach_experimenthttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Ehrenhaft)
360° Raum/Zeit :
cosinus 90°= 0.0 Nullpunkt/Zeropoint-Zero -Stellung/Position

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern%E2%80%93Gerlach_experiment (http://programmedlessons.org/VectorLessons/vch07/vch07_5.htmlhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern%E2%80%93Gerlach_experimenthttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Ehrenhaft)
Raum/Zeit- (Paar-)Quantelung
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Ehrenhaft (http://programmedlessons.org/VectorLessons/vch07/vch07_5.htmlhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern%E2%80%93Gerlach_experimenthttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Ehrenhaft)
Licht-/Teilchen(Paar-)Strom, photon-phonon
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Praktische Hilfs-Aggregate/-Maschinen/-Transformatoren/-Uebersetzungen/-Traduktoren
Michel Prueitt invention M.E.C.H.: M.otor,E.ngine,C.ompressor,H.ydraulik = 1 machine
Gear Transmission to Automatic Transmission (Drehmoment/Impuls-Wandler)

How to construct an electrictricity "automatic gear transmission" with
"ENERGY AMPLIFICATION" and "ENERGY REDUCTION/DIMINUATION"
for the off-grid "autonom free energy to free work/power delivery" !?
Technical-physical "Eiland/island/isle" solution

Peak/Pik consume and deep/low electro-magnetic power consume season with high/ low inrush current phase :Included room heating/ chilling (solar cell), permanent refrigerator work(compressor- motor inrush current limiter)

active/reactive current and active/reactive power "operator",self-learning and consumer behaviour controlling :
24 hours daily time-schedule "common habits" bath/kitchen/living room
and electric land/sea/air traffic vehicle/commuter power source charging
We are all working for the "autonom KI-world "future , with final target: human-costs free industry and service society, export-/import-independance: in situ REPRAP production(included scrap to powder crushing and recycling)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on September 15, 2018, 08:52:14 AM

Quote from: densama on September 14, 2018, 07:37:30 PM
http://www.penguinslab.com/capdish.htm

From Mallards & penguins, to capacitors, suppose we have an AC supply with a capacitor on each input leg with our circuit in the middle doesn't that remind you a bit of our planet some how ?

Any thoughts ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on September 15, 2018, 10:02:57 AM

The basic theory for this is Tom Bearden's "don't kill the dipole" as described in this article. Basic conclusion of that: the electric field comes for free. Potential (voltage) comes for free as long as you don't influence the charge carriers that create your dipole, your voltage source. In the analysed systems, they all excite two inductive loads in series. Gray excited both terminals of the load train in phase, while Puharich and Meyer did this out of phase. This explains why Gray most likely used bifilar wound coils. To understand the basic principle, it is perhaps best to think in the line I have been following towards the solution of this mistery, which is as follows.

When you resonate an open coil in full wave resonance, you get high voltage, zero current at the terminals, in phase. So there you have the basic connection to using the voltage source for free, but you have to figure out a way to do that without disturbing the charge carriers that give you the voltage source.

However, with a single coil, the current stays inside the coil, so you can't use that. So, when you split the coil into two, you get the current in the middle for free, provided you don't disturb your voltage source, your driving circuit. So normally, when you use the current, you will disturb the resonance, which will eventually also disturb your driving circuit (because it is somehow coupled with it), so you still have to provide current to keep the system in resonance and pay the price.

And here's the trick: the driving signal is delivered to the coil on top of a half rectified carrier wave, which is fed into the circuit trough a high pass filter. Because the carrier is half rectified, you basically "touch" the coils into one direction, so you don't get any HF in there.

That way, you get the current and the power, but the disturbances caused by using the power, cannot reach the driving circuit, because of the high pass filter! And then you finally got what you want. You can use your voltage source, without disturbing it, so then you don't have to pay the price.

Once you have that clear, you can also imagine that you can drive this principle much further. As long as you make sure you have a proper decoupling between driving circuitry and load circuitry, you can most likely get by without driving the load train into resonance after all. At this moment, this still has to be experimentally verified.

If you would want do go beyond what these three did, the final trick would be to drive two identical loads in opposite phase, so the whole system is perfectly in balance and in resonance.

http://www.energeticforum.com/water-fuel/6227-stan-meyers-secret-preventing-electrolysis-5.html#post108949

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 15, 2018, 05:57:29 PM

Quote from: densama on September 15, 2018, 10:02:57 AM
The basic theory for this is Tom Bearden's "don't kill the dipole" as described in this article. Basic conclusion of that: the electric field comes for free. Potential (voltage) comes for free as long as you don't influence the charge carriers that create your dipole, your voltage source. In the analysed systems, they all excite two inductive loads in series. Gray excited both terminals of the load train in phase, while Puharich and Meyer did this out of phase. This explains why Gray most likely used bifilar wound coils. To understand the basic principle, it is perhaps best to think in the line I have been following towards the solution of this mistery, which is as follows.

When you resonate an open coil in full wave resonance, you get high voltage, zero current at the terminals, in phase. So there you have the basic connection to using the voltage source for free, but you have to figure out a way to do that without disturbing the charge carriers that give you the voltage source.

However, with a single coil, the current stays inside the coil, so you can't use that. So, when you split the coil into two, you get the current in the middle for free, provided you don't disturb your voltage source, your driving circuit. So normally, when you use the current, you will disturb the resonance, which will eventually also disturb your driving circuit (because it is somehow coupled with it), so you still have to provide current to keep the system in resonance and pay the price.

And here's the trick: the driving signal is delivered to the coil on top of a half rectified carrier wave, which is fed into the circuit trough a high pass filter. Because the carrier is half rectified, you basically "touch" the coils into one direction, so you don't get any HF in there.

That way, you get the current and the power, but the disturbances caused by using the power, cannot reach the driving circuit, because of the high pass filter! And then you finally got what you want. You can use your voltage source, without disturbing it, so then you don't have to pay the price.

Once you have that clear, you can also imagine that you can drive this principle much further. As long as you make sure you have a proper decoupling between driving circuitry and load circuitry, you can most likely get by without driving the load train into resonance after all. At this moment, this still has to be experimentally verified.

If you would want do go beyond what these three did, the final trick would be to drive two identical loads in opposite phase, so the whole system is perfectly in balance and in resonance.

http://www.energeticforum.com/water-fuel/6227-stan-meyers-secret-preventing-electrolysis-5.html#post108949 (http://www.energeticforum.com/water-fuel/6227-stan-meyers-secret-preventing-electrolysis-5.html#post108949)

Have not read the link yet till later tonight, but I really like where you are going with this. ;)
Thanks for posting
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on September 16, 2018, 06:49:03 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 15, 2018, 05:57:29 PM
Have not read the link yet till later tonight, but I really like where you are going with this. ;)
Thanks for posting
Mags

This seems what Jack Noskills is doing with his coilcap. Secondary coil is the coilcap and it is open. DC pulses from L1 resonate that coilcap just fine.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on September 16, 2018, 06:53:11 AM

puharich document and othe related for the interested

https://the-eye.eu/public/concen.org/Build%20Your%20Own%20Stanley%20Meyer%20Water%20Fuel%20Cell%202015%20research%20pack/text/Patents%20from%20GlobalKast/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 18, 2018, 10:50:37 PM

Quote from: densama on September 15, 2018, 10:02:57 AM
The basic theory for this is Tom Bearden's "don't kill the dipole" as described in this article. Basic conclusion of that: the electric field comes for free. Potential (voltage) comes for free as long as you don't influence the charge carriers that create your dipole, your voltage source. In the analysed systems, they all excite two inductive loads in series. Gray excited both terminals of the load train in phase, while Puharich and Meyer did this out of phase. This explains why Gray most likely used bifilar wound coils. To understand the basic principle, it is perhaps best to think in the line I have been following towards the solution of this mistery, which is as follows.

When you resonate an open coil in full wave resonance, you get high voltage, zero current at the terminals, in phase. So there you have the basic connection to using the voltage source for free, but you have to figure out a way to do that without disturbing the charge carriers that give you the voltage source.

However, with a single coil, the current stays inside the coil, so you can't use that. So, when you split the coil into two, you get the current in the middle for free, provided you don't disturb your voltage source, your driving circuit. So normally, when you use the current, you will disturb the resonance, which will eventually also disturb your driving circuit (because it is somehow coupled with it), so you still have to provide current to keep the system in resonance and pay the price.

And here's the trick: the driving signal is delivered to the coil on top of a half rectified carrier wave, which is fed into the circuit trough a high pass filter. Because the carrier is half rectified, you basically "touch" the coils into one direction, so you don't get any HF in there.

That way, you get the current and the power, but the disturbances caused by using the power, cannot reach the driving circuit, because of the high pass filter! And then you finally got what you want. You can use your voltage source, without disturbing it, so then you don't have to pay the price.

Once you have that clear, you can also imagine that you can drive this principle much further. As long as you make sure you have a proper decoupling between driving circuitry and load circuitry, you can most likely get by without driving the load train into resonance after all. At this moment, this still has to be experimentally verified.

If you would want do go beyond what these three did, the final trick would be to drive two identical loads in opposite phase, so the whole system is perfectly in balance and in resonance.

http://www.energeticforum.com/water-fuel/6227-stan-meyers-secret-preventing-electrolysis-5.html#post108949 (http://www.energeticforum.com/water-fuel/6227-stan-meyers-secret-preventing-electrolysis-5.html#post108949)

ok. I replied the other day that I liked this post. It gave me an idea that may be something, and it doesnt need the high pass filter suggested above....

Many know of how to use an AV plug diode setup. My tests with it lead me to believe something I have stated several times before. I used a circuit board from an older printer/scanner that would drive a long thin florescent tube in the scanner that produces about 1kv ac output to drive the tube. Now when we apply the lead of the AV plug to just a single lead of the circuits transformer secondary hv output, the av plug can charge a cap. My belief was, and still is, that within the HV secondary when it is open ended, that there are currents in the winding in order to decompress numbers of electrons from one end of the winding and compress them to the other end for each phase of operation in order to produce the positive and negative charges at the secondaries end leads. Some have disagreed with my assessment.

So how do we prove my theory? Well the post I quoted above inspired just that.... So here we go, along with other possibilities

So first we need to have 2 hv secondaries. Now we take the 2 leads from the secondaries that would put them in series and connect them to a very low ohm, low inductance primary of another transformer. Like if the secondary of the florescent driver were center tapped, we separate the center tap to do as I just said. Now here we dont use the AV plug as I described above. We just leave the outer ends of the 2 series secondaries open and the only connection to the secondary winding is the very low numbered turn primary of the second transformer(of which would be a step up transformer). Now, the transformers hv secondary would be open ended and not be loaded. If there is a current within the open ended HV transformer of our florescent driver as I stated that I believe there is, then our second transformer will have these currents flowing in its primary thus inducing its secondary for output WITHOUT LOADING THE FLORESCENT DRIVER!!! ;)

Was thinkin on trying this with my bifi coil. I will induce the bifi coil into an open ended resonance with another coil that is driven with a sine signal at the resonant freq of the open ended bifi coil and at the series connection between the 2 windings of the bifi coil I would have my primary of my second transformer and see if we get output from its secondary. If we load the secondary output then the primary inductance will be very low and should not affect the resonance of the bifi much if any. If it does affect it some then we may have to adjust the drive coils freq to compensate. Now, if we do get output from our secondary of our second transformer, then this would prove that there are currents in the open ended bifi as I stated due to the compression and decompression of electrons from open end to open end of the bifi, AND we will have a circuit that should not affect the input circuit. Also, we will be taking advantage of the self resonance of the open ended bifi to have an increase in the so called sloshing of the electrons within the open ended bifi coil thus more currents into our second transformers very low ohm and very low impedance primary. No high pass filter needed as suggested in the quoted post above. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

If the electrons are compressed from one end of the open ended bifi coil to produce the pos and neg charges at its open ends, then naturally there would be maximum current flow in the middle of the bifi winding in doing so. Of which should drive the primary of the second transformer. :o :o ;D ;D

This is what I will try here soon enough. This is an open source idea for anyone to try. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on September 19, 2018, 01:57:52 AM

honestly ,,, i not have tito device replication my own. But, i just intuitively KNOW that tito ALWAYS said the truth at least he show THE path. Just collecting tito clue and translating to my own language is hard part for me. Yeahhh .. i know u will not believe me, but its very stimulating reading experience to know ALL people here, to separate the wheat from the chaff . to separate the truth and non truth... but i have great happiness to do just that.

Tito, Dave45, erfinder, Bobsmith, forest, totoalas, zdiblo, toto, brucetpu, weizisky, tinman, wattsup is always supporting to this forum and helping me to gather right information. Thank you buddy and others ( i can't mention all supporting member here) ; its just amazing just to join with u. Really ... especially tito ... new world particle phisics jenius from pinoy. :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on September 19, 2018, 08:44:28 AM

Quote from: densama on September 19, 2018, 01:57:52 AM
honestly ,,, i not have tito device replication my own. But, i just intuitively KNOW that tito ALWAYS said the truth at least he show THE path. Just collecting tito clue and translating to my own language is hard part for me. Yeahhh .. i know u will not believe me, but its very stimulating reading experience to know ALL people here, to separate the wheat from the chaff . to separate the truth and non truth... but i have great happiness to do just that.

Tito, Dave45, erfinder, Bobsmith, forest, totoalas, zdiblo, toto, brucetpu, weizisky, tinman, wattsup is always supporting to this forum and helping me to gather right information. Thank you buddy and others ( i can't mention all supporting member here) ; its just amazing just to join with u. Really ... especially tito ... new world particle phisics jenius from pinoy. :o

The problem I have with Tito that he has the same MO as Zilano. Guy interested in OU, but does not have any answers. Then he goes to a forum and tells he has the answer. People keep asking him stuff and he gives stories and tales so people are kept interested. Then he mixes in links to videos that he has found interesting, GOD AND JESUS and tells he is leaving after every post.

1. He is posting videos on so many subjects and telling the answer is there. It seems his invention has all the technologies in the world!
2. Writing in CAPS and talking about GOD is a clear sign, that he needs meds and therapy
3. Threatning to leave means he feels guilty about his lies and this bothers him, but it also feels so good people are interested in him

So your intuition tells you something and mine tells me other things. Hopefully Tito comes back this week and tells us everything!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 19, 2018, 09:40:45 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 10, 2018, 05:55:21 AM

.......cause if i will reveal it then no more thrill and satisfaction ok.

bye bro. :)

And finally from his own mouth the real reason he will never reveal what he THINKS he has. (above)

What he has is not OU anyway. At best its an excellent way to steal from the grid.

9 years ago he said he had free energy OU

Now he says it is only last year he discovered :o :o :o :o :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 19, 2018, 09:46:23 AM

Quote from: densama on September 19, 2018, 01:57:52 AM
honestly ,,, i not have tito device replication my own. But, i just intuitively KNOW that tito ALWAYS said the truth at least he show THE path. Just collecting tito clue and translating to my own language is hard part for me. Yeahhh .. i know u will not believe me, but its very stimulating reading experience to know ALL people here, to separate the wheat from the chaff . to separate the truth and non truth... but i have great happiness to do just that.

Tito, Dave45, erfinder, Bobsmith, forest, totoalas, zdiblo, toto, brucetpu, weizisky, tinman, wattsup is always supporting to this forum and helping me to gather right information. Thank you buddy and others ( i can't mention all supporting member here) ; its just amazing just to join with u. Really ... especially tito ... new world particle phisics jenius from pinoy. :o

Densama who are you kidding? YOU ARE tito!! Your IP is identical AND your not to mention your language. You bang on about truth that tito (you) tells but you just keep proving what a liar you are like Satan. As soon as Tito bid us farewell (for the 100th time) you appeared as a new member with your identical IP.

The jig is long up with your many usernames forest, titio, densama horses ass etc etc You should see a doctor

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 19, 2018, 11:50:44 AM

Admin end this ocean :o PLEASE
I am not sure if you have any questions or concerns please visit the plug-in settings please log in to resume watching the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the same in to resume my professional and personal with the playlist in the plug-in settings this is an automatically in the playlist in the playlist the plug-in settings please log in the plug-in you the plug-in you can see that the playlist the same the playlist the same

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on September 19, 2018, 12:31:23 PM

Quote from: forest on September 19, 2018, 11:50:44 AM
Admin end this ocean :o PLEASE
I am not sure if you have any questions or concerns please visit the plug-in settings please log in to resume watching the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the same in to resume my professional and personal with the playlist in the plug-in settings this is an automatically in the playlist in the playlist the plug-in settings please log in the plug-in you the plug-in you can see that the playlist the same the playlist the same

I think forest blew a fuse :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 19, 2018, 01:31:07 PM

Quote from: Belfior on September 19, 2018, 12:31:23 PM
I think forest blew a fuse :)

Thats how endlessoceans comments hear to me....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 19, 2018, 07:16:30 PM

Quote from: Belfior on September 19, 2018, 12:31:23 PM
I think forest blew a fuse :)

hahaha ;D ;D

Its like watching a Windows 98 machine cycle into destruction after a command it has no hope of understanding :) :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 19, 2018, 07:17:40 PM

Quote from: forest on September 19, 2018, 11:50:44 AM
Admin end this ocean :o PLEASE
I am not sure if you have any questions or concerns please visit the plug-in settings please log in to resume watching the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the same in to resume my professional and personal with the playlist in the plug-in settings this is an automatically in the playlist in the playlist the plug-in settings please log in the plug-in you the plug-in you can see that the playlist the same the playlist the same

Hi Tito What meds are you taking today?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 19, 2018, 07:20:03 PM

Quote from: forest on September 19, 2018, 11:50:44 AM
Admin end this ocean :o PLEASE
I am not sure if you have any questions or concerns please visit the plug-in settings please log in to resume watching the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the playlist the same in to resume my professional and personal with the playlist in the plug-in settings this is an automatically in the playlist in the playlist the plug-in settings please log in the plug-in you the plug-in you can see that the playlist the same the playlist the same

Naww don't cry Tito

I understand its upsetting for a liar when your charade is finally pointed out.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on September 19, 2018, 10:39:01 PM

Belfior

QuoteThe problem I have with Tito that he has the same MO as Zilano. Guy interested in OU, but does not have any answers. Then he goes to a forum and tells he has the answer. People keep asking him stuff and he gives stories and tales so people are kept interested. Then he mixes in links to videos that he has found interesting, GOD AND JESUS and tells he is leaving after every post.

1. He is posting videos on so many subjects and telling the answer is there. It seems his invention has all the technologies in the world!
2. Writing in CAPS and talking about GOD is a clear sign, that he needs meds and therapy
3. Threatning to leave means he feels guilty about his lies and this bothers him, but it also feels so good people are interested in him

He may very well be a nutjob, however when was the last time you heard of a quite average or ordinary person doing anything that matters?. Look at our history and you will find all of the people who have redefined science, technology and the arts were considered nutjobs. The only people who ever accomplished anything were abnormal and really didn't give a damn what other people thought.

Normal is grossly overrated because it pretty much ensures they will never do anything of consequence in there lives... which is quite normal unfortunately.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on September 20, 2018, 04:04:03 AM

Just had this vision Statler and Waldorf ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on September 20, 2018, 06:26:16 AM

Quote from: onepower on September 19, 2018, 10:39:01 PM
Belfior
He may very well be a nutjob, however when was the last time you heard of a quite average or ordinary person doing anything that matters?. Look at our history and you will find all of the people who have redefined science, technology and the arts were considered nutjobs. The only people who ever accomplished anything were abnormal and really didn't give a damn what other people thought.

Normal is grossly overrated because it pretty much ensures they will never do anything of consequence in there lives... which is quite normal unfortunately.

It is my firm belief that everything new and ground breaking will come from inventors that are outside the normal Phd or science circles. The reason we are Still clueless about the real workings of nature is because we are asking the wrong questions. This is a result of the framework that is false, but is used as a starting point for all studies.

So I have nothing ill to say about Tito's status as a researcher. I critisize his actions that portray a person who is just winding up others. Also creating another account to justify Tito's writings is a bit fishy. That's all

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 20, 2018, 03:53:26 PM

Ok, guys. I have no ability to construct but the essence of original Tito discovery is in Adams motor. Watch closely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2bPDDWqSvM . Then remember Tito posted two circuit diagrams...you really have all to make 800%

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 20, 2018, 06:20:33 PM

Quote from: Belfior on September 20, 2018, 06:26:16 AM

. Also creating another account to justify Tito's writings is a bit fishy. That's all

Exactly

But its not just 1 account extra either. At least 5 I have discovered so far.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 20, 2018, 06:23:27 PM

Quote from: forest on September 20, 2018, 03:53:26 PM
Ok, guys. I have no ability to construct but the essence of original Tito discovery is in Adams motor. Watch closely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2bPDDWqSvM . Then remember Tito posted two circuit diagrams...you really have all to make 800%

Hi Tito

Back again and still talking nonsense hey?

So, you HAVE NOT replicated but you KNOW its TRUE??????? :o :o :o :o How does that work? No wonder you believe everything you see on youtube.

NO, the Adams motor is NOT OU. Here is a very good replication that proved that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82NXhkjVVw0

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on September 20, 2018, 07:25:37 PM

Endless big mouth. You are full of horse manure. Here is what the admin has to say about IP addresses:

https://overunity.com/helpadmin/help/see_member_ip/

Your ridiculous claims against Tito are making you look like a fool.

Whether he knows anything or not I don't know and don't care. His subject doesn't interest me. But your silly accusations are getting very boring and add nothing to this thread. You need to get a life!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 20, 2018, 11:58:12 PM

Quote from: citfta on September 20, 2018, 07:25:37 PM
Endless big mouth. You are full of horse manure. Here is what the admin has to say about IP addresses:

https://overunity.com/helpadmin/help/see_member_ip/ (https://overunity.com/helpadmin/help/see_member_ip/)

Your ridiculous claims against Tito are making you look like a fool.

Whether he knows anything or not I don't know and don't care. His subject doesn't interest me. But your silly accusations are getting very boring and add nothing to this thread. You need to get a life!

I agree 100%.
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: endlessoceans on September 20, 2018, 11:59:09 PM

Quote from: citfta on September 20, 2018, 07:25:37 PM
Here is what the admin has to say about IP addresses:

https://overunity.com/helpadmin/help/see_member_ip/

You seem awful upset for somebody who has no interest in a boring thread. Relax. You will live longer
Dont be so Naive about the disclaimer. You show how little you know on what can and cannot be exposed

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on September 21, 2018, 01:50:23 AM

Endlessoceans
I have a theory on what I have seen here. Sure some people like Tito have made wild claims and talk kind of weird and such however I do not believe his intent is to do harm. However I have come to think we cannot degrade someone else without degrading ourselves in some way. It would seem to be a losing proposition on both ends of the equation. How can one move forward when resentment is continually holding us back?. It's a shit show any way we look at it in my opinion.

So I have changed my mind in many ways and say go for it... rage at the machine, howl at the moon but know the sun must rise and our remembrance of that night will weigh upon us. What was it's worth?, I think we have paid more than we have received. As I said it would seem to be a shit show any way we look at it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 21, 2018, 02:55:03 AM

well, I believe that endlessoceans (https://overunity.com/profile/endlessoceans.105339/)

is a paid troll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on September 21, 2018, 02:56:34 AM

Find Tito schematics. One of them : double RAM is the essence of making Adams motor overunity

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 21, 2018, 05:43:44 AM

What are you discussing there!!! >:(
That won't help. don't waste your time to endlessmouth :D

ok study this friends they are really basic aren't you ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWI70HXrbG0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWI70HXrbG0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rb9guSEeVE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rb9guSEeVE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukBFPrXiKWA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukBFPrXiKWA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agujzHdvtjc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agujzHdvtjc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQwbpHXFWn4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQwbpHXFWn4) bend it 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZnWq4cvZ1o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZnWq4cvZ1o) 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAA9nCqNfR4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAA9nCqNfR4) ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3oXvy0J4PE :o

i just come crossing don't expect me anymore ok?
bye ;D

etiotots ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on September 21, 2018, 09:21:17 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 21, 2018, 05:43:44 AM
What are you discussing there!!! >:(
That won't help. don't waste your time to endlessmouth :D

ok study this friends they are really basic aren't you ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWI70HXrbG0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWI70HXrbG0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rb9guSEeVE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rb9guSEeVE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukBFPrXiKWA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukBFPrXiKWA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agujzHdvtjc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agujzHdvtjc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQwbpHXFWn4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQwbpHXFWn4) bend it 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZnWq4cvZ1o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZnWq4cvZ1o) 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAA9nCqNfR4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAA9nCqNfR4) ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3oXvy0J4PE :o

i just come crossing don't expect me anymore ok?
bye ;D

etiotots ;D

Hi so your into conventional electrics but what about Dielectrics can you find anything on that ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on September 21, 2018, 10:57:54 AM

AG: I will tell you in Skype after my tests are finished :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on September 22, 2018, 07:01:30 AM

tito puzzle :
amplification is a by product of collapsing magnetic field of an energized capacitor! discharge. from a ____ and ____ circuit

from what ??? ... brother
from tesla ozone patent .. to .. extra coil with tail .. ( tesla receiver ). more coil ... more amplification ...

based on https://overunity.com/5772/teslas-magnifying-transmitter-amplify-electricity/450/.

allcanadian said :
we are not speaking of electric currents we are speaking of charged bodies, only when charged bodies are discharged does the electric current manifest itself.

https://overunity.com/3972/the-tesla-project/225/

wattsup clue :
having capacitors in parallel and feeding them with a high voltage would have spread out the voltage/amperage. So do parallel capacitors increase amperage

https://overunity.com/3972/the-tesla-project/360/

evostars said : so the capacitor discharge into the resonant coiln is short of duration.
it gives a strong hammer slam, but it doesn't empty the capacitor.

http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=2954.200

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on September 22, 2018, 08:57:45 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 21, 2018, 05:43:44 AM
What are you discussing there!!! >:(
That won't help. don't waste your time to endlessmouth :D

'endlessmouth'
Lol. Thats one of the funniest things ive read here in a long time. ;D
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on September 23, 2018, 10:07:49 AM

dave45 wiseman :

bounce the bemf between the two coil and they will drive each other, and pull in extra energy.
One becomes pos charged and one becomes neg charged, they will pull apart the aether and collect energy.
tesla ozone patent circuit can be added to pull in some serious power.
Its about charge separation, spitting the aether then collecting.

https://overunity.com/14378/akula0083-30-watt-self-running-generator/870/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on September 23, 2018, 01:07:31 PM

;D ;D ;D

Quote from: densama on September 23, 2018, 10:07:49 AM
dave45 wiseman :

bounce the bemf between the two coil and they will drive each other, and pull in extra energy.
One becomes pos charged and one becomes neg charged, they will pull apart the aether and collect energy.
tesla ozone patent circuit can be added to pull in some serious power.
Its about charge separation, spitting the aether then collecting.

https://overunity.com/14378/akula0083-30-watt-self-running-generator/870/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 23, 2018, 09:12:53 PM

Quote from: AlienGrey on September 21, 2018, 09:21:17 AM
Hi so your into conventional electrics but what about Dielectrics can you find anything on that ?

hi! it seems that you found something special on dielectric,hmmmmmmmm ;)
well, gone through that long time ago, if you want you can include and try americium 231 or other radioactive material but in small chunks only or you can try also a magnet but it should be a little bit smaller than the cathode and anode and they should be not against from the north and south of the magnet should be done in one way not repelling ok. :)

in electricity, the best thing is not focusing on conventional but a combined with other recipee :D 8)
thats how delicious a vaiant should be ok :D
[size=78%]
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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 23, 2018, 09:14:01 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on September 22, 2018, 08:57:45 PM
'endlessmouth'
Lol. Thats one of the funniest things ive read here in a long time. ;D
Mags

i just copied that from densama ok hehehe. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 23, 2018, 09:34:04 PM

Sorry brother, i told that i have the real thing a long time ago because i thought i really have it but as my digging continues i discover lot more easier solution and finally come to the real one which is the whirlwind or the black hole technology.

is that clear?

secondly, i'm not others , i'm just one and unique ok!!!!!! >:(

i have to tell you something, i will not be here more often because someone seems to pay someone to find me, i'm not sure if the intention is killing me or what. but they are locating me hehehe. ;D

i think they believe that i spill some beans. hehehehehehhehe ;D

bye
palatots ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 23, 2018, 09:40:54 PM

Quote from: onepower on September 19, 2018, 10:39:01 PM
Belfior
He may very well be a nutjob, however when was the last time you heard of a quite average or ordinary person doing anything that matters?. Look at our history and you will find all of the people who have redefined science, technology and the arts were considered nutjobs. The only people who ever accomplished anything were abnormal and really didn't give a damn what other people thought.

Normal is grossly overrated because it pretty much ensures they will never do anything of consequence in there lives... which is quite normal unfortunately.

Hey!!!! >:(
i am not abnormal ok! >:( maybe a little bit eccentric much good to hear. :) 8) :o :-\ :'( :P

my favorite song dedicated to you. simple and easy. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 23, 2018, 09:47:55 PM

Quote from: densama on September 22, 2018, 07:01:30 AM
tito puzzle :
amplification is a by product of collapsing magnetic field of an energized capacitor! discharge. from a ____ and ____ circuit

from what ??? ... brother
from tesla ozone patent .. to .. extra coil with tail .. ( tesla receiver ). more coil ... more amplification ...

based on https://overunity.com/5772/teslas-magnifying-transmitter-amplify-electricity/450/ (https://overunity.com/5772/teslas-magnifying-transmitter-amplify-electricity/450/).

allcanadian said :
we are not speaking of electric currents we are speaking of charged bodies, only when charged bodies are discharged does the electric current manifest itself.

https://overunity.com/3972/the-tesla-project/225/ (https://overunity.com/3972/the-tesla-project/225/)

wattsup clue :
having capacitors in parallel and feeding them with a high voltage would have spread out the voltage/amperage. So do parallel capacitors increase amperage

https://overunity.com/3972/the-tesla-project/360/ (https://overunity.com/3972/the-tesla-project/360/)

evostars said : so the capacitor discharge into the resonant coiln is short of duration.
it gives a strong hammer slam, but it doesn't empty the capacitor.

http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=2954.200 (http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=2954.200)

That's a long time research ok.
for me now, amplification is by the continues onewaymovement of electron with the natural help of the nature.
a small stimulation and the nature will do the rest.

remember: a typhoon can start from the smallest part of two air moving from different direction. 8) :o

as it continues, it grows violently isn't it. therefore be careful because we can accidentally create an avalantz of energy. we should learn how to control and harnessed it, hmm sounds like tesla. :D [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on October 05, 2018, 11:40:08 PM

buddy ... how to convert high voltage electrostatic pulses to amplified current pulses at a lower voltage ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tomd on October 06, 2018, 08:04:53 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 23, 2018, 09:47:55 PM

That's a long time research ok.
for me now, amplification is by the continues onewaymovement of electron with the natural help of the nature.
a small stimulation and the nature will do the rest.

remember: a typhoon can start from the smallest part of two air moving from different direction. 8) :o

as it continues, it grows violently isn't it. therefore be careful because we can accidentally create an avalantz of energy. we should learn how to control and harnessed it, hmm sounds like tesla. :D [size=78%] [/size]

Standing Wave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3vr6qmOwLw&feature=youtu.be

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on October 07, 2018, 01:03:44 AM

tesla's technique secret, its the ACCUMULATION PROCESS. please give better analogy Tito thorium ?

and ... how to Rectified Magnetic Field ? mr. tomd

I dont really care if Im right or wrong, I want to find the answer (dave45) ...
where you go.. wiseman ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 08, 2018, 05:20:58 AM

Quote from: densama on October 07, 2018, 01:03:44 AM
tesla's technique secret, its the ACCUMULATION PROCESS. please give better analogy Tito thorium ?

and ... how to Rectified Magnetic Field ? mr. tomd

I dont really care if Im right or wrong, I want to find the answer (dave45) ...
where you go.. wiseman ?

Hi buddy did you not tried this one?, this is one way and free from our beloved friend tinman. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voHGyN93Ru4 ;)
making series in the air. 8) ;)

in rectifying magnetic field you have to open the gate first, and you must know the direction first. ;) 8)

Thats it, happy experimenting buddy. :)

bye.
God bless
the director ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 08, 2018, 05:46:51 AM

ONE MORE THING ;)
DO YOU KNOW THAT, VICTOR SCHAUBERGER DISCOVERY IS MORE SIMILAR WITH THIS ONE,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Bm3cs9TFo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Bm3cs9TFo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JhUSu8v2N4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JhUSu8v2N4)

I JUST WANT THIS TO BE REALIZED BY MANY OK?. 8)

BY COMBINING THE FOUNTAIN TECHNOLOGY OF TESLA, THEN IT CAN STAND ALONE AND VOILA, WE HAVE A FLYING SAFE AIRCRAFT
OF COURSE WE HAVE TO COMBINE CENTRIFUGAL FORCE TECHNOLOGY OR THE GYRO POWER TO CANCELS OUT LOTS OF WEIGHTS. 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im2mNnWZ5Oc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im2mNnWZ5Oc) GOOD STABLE BALANCING.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t34Gv39ypRo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t34Gv39ypRo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeyDf4ooPdo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeyDf4ooPdo)

I AM NOW EXPECTING LOTS OF FLYING SOUCER NOW ROAMING AROUND. ;D

EXCITING!!!!!!!!! ;D

BYE GOD BLESS
ANTITS GRAVITITS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 08, 2018, 05:52:06 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 08, 2018, 05:46:51 AM
ONE MORE THING ;)
DO YOU KNOW THAT, VICTOR SCHAUBERGER DISCOVERY IS MORE SIMILAR WITH THIS ONE,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Bm3cs9TFo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Bm3cs9TFo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JhUSu8v2N4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JhUSu8v2N4)

I JUST WANT THIS TO BE REALIZED BY MANY OK?. 8)

BY COMBINING THE FOUNTAIN TECHNOLOGY OF TESLA, THEN IT CAN STAND ALONE AND VOILA, WE HAVE A FLYING SAFE AIRCRAFT
OF COURSE WE HAVE TO COMBINE CENTRIFUGAL FORCE TECHNOLOGY OR THE GYRO POWER TO CANCELS OUT LOTS OF WEIGHTS. 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im2mNnWZ5Oc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im2mNnWZ5Oc) GOOD STABLE BALANCING.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t34Gv39ypRo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t34Gv39ypRo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeyDf4ooPdo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeyDf4ooPdo)

I AM NOW EXPECTING LOTS OF FLYING SOUCER NOW ROAMING AROUND. ;D

EXCITING!!!!!!!!! ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcKyq-e-Soo NOTHING I JUST WANT YOU TO SEE THIS AMAZING. ;D [size=78%] [/size]

BYE GOD BLESS
ANTITS GRAVITITS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 08, 2018, 05:59:53 AM

SEE
MOMENTUM OR THE NATURE WILL DO THE REST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av07QiqmsoA

JUST BY A LITTLE MOVEMENT OR EFFORT ;) 8) :o :-*

LOTS OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE. HMMMMMMMMM ;) :'(
DID YOU SAW ME ?, I'M IN THE PICTURE. ::)

REPLAY FOR YOU TO REALIZED SOMETHING AGAIN. DON'T FORGET LONG TIME CLUES OK. :P ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgvcCiPpO_o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgvcCiPpO_o)

NOW YOU TELL ME THAT FREE ENERGY ISN'T REAL!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 08, 2018, 06:28:20 AM

Did you see this!!!!!!! >:(
The duality of singular. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M07JRzkgaR8

the reason why vortex is faster[/size] :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXwSpcfYBD4

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on October 08, 2018, 08:26:35 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 08, 2018, 05:59:53 AM
SEE
MOMENTUM OR THE NATURE WILL DO THE REST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av07QiqmsoA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av07QiqmsoA)

JUST BY A LITTLE MOVEMENT OR EFFORT ;) 8) :o :-*

LOTS OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE. HMMMMMMMMM ;) :'(
DID YOU SAW ME ?, I'M IN THE PICTURE. ::)

REPLAY FOR YOU TO REALIZED SOMETHING AGAIN. DON'T FORGET LONG TIME CLUES OK. :P ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgvcCiPpO_o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgvcCiPpO_o)

NOW YOU TELL ME THAT FREE ENERGY ISN'T REAL!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

there is one problem in these demonstrations. The upright standing parts have already used energy to be in the position they are in. There is not enough energy created in the successive falling domino effect to get them to all be in a standing position once more. Its like charging a bunch of caps, first one small and the last one large and just using the charge of the smaller one to trigger a transistor to drain the next cap into the next transistor and so on and so on. just a hypothetical example. But we in the end still need to recharge the caps. So what amount of energy did it take to set up these demonstrations compared to what we get out??? ;) If these are what you claim to be demos of free energy then I have to disagree. ;D
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on October 09, 2018, 05:09:31 AM

Funny how people that have found the secret can be so lost when it comes to the OU principless.

Tito said in the end the secret was just a piece of wire and now he posts videos that have random things in them.

This is 1:1 with Zilano bullshit and that took years.

The only proof this gives is that Tito has not found anything, but he has most likely lost something. You can be the judge what that something is...

Now I am a firm believer that something that exists can be captured, but that does not mean you can choose a random thing and claim that is the answer. I have not yet seen one clever discovery or a novel use of an old thing that would actually bring us closer to any resolution.

I don't want to be the asshole here, but winding people up and dragging shit on for years just to get attention is not the work of a genius. It is a hallucination of a sick mind and should be treated as such

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 11, 2018, 03:03:41 AM

Quote from: Belfior on October 09, 2018, 05:09:31 AM
Funny how people that have found the secret can be so lost when it comes to the OU principless.

Tito said in the end the secret was just a piece of wire and now he posts videos that have random things in them.

This is 1:1 with Zilano bullshit and that took years.

The only proof this gives is that Tito has not found anything, but he has most likely lost something. You can be the judge what that something is...

Now I am a firm believer that something that exists can be captured, but that does not mean you can choose a random thing and claim that is the answer. I have not yet seen one clever discovery or a novel use of an old thing that would actually bring us closer to any resolution.

I don't want to be the asshole here, but winding people up and dragging shit on for years just to get attention is not the work of a genius. It is a hallucination of a sick mind and should be treated as such

it seems that you are mad, huh ???

so you know OU principles huh ???

i don't know the story of Zilano actually and i am not interested. hmmmmmmm! >:(

YOU KNOW WHAT!?
I AM NOT WINDING ANYBODY HERE!!!!!! >:( I AM NOT HOLDING YOUR NECK OKAYYYYYYYYYY :-\

I AM JUST HERE BECAUSE I AM JUST HAPPY GIVING EVERYONE AN INFO OF WHAT HAVE I'VED DONE OKAYYYYYYYYYY >:(

AND IT IS STILL IN YOUR DECISION IF YOU BELIEVE OKAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! >:(

THOSE RANDOM VIDS ARE JUST HINT THAT HELP ME DISCOVER GOOD THINGS AND I AM JUST HAPPY SHARING THEM TO THE CROWD OKAYYYYYYY!!! >:(

FOR YOUR INFO.. I AM NOT LOOOOOOSING ANYTHING OKAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY :'(

WHETHER IF I FOUND ANYTHING, SOOOOOOO WHO CARES ARE YOU AFFECTED? :o

AND ALSO STILL AGAIN, I AM NOT DRAGGING ANYONE HERE AGAIN OKAYYYYYYYYYYY, ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND AND CANNOT CONTROL YOURSELF GOING HERE!!!!!!!!!!! >:( HUH

I DON'T NEED AN ATTENTION OKAYYYYYYYYYYYY, AM I FORCING YOU OR ANYONE TO GO HERE!!!!!! HUH >:(

YOU KNOW WHAT?, EVERYONE IS FREE TO GO ANYWHERE OKAYYYYYYYOAKAYyyyyyyyyyyOKAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!! GOT IT HUH >:(
MAYBE I THINK YOU ARE THE ONE HAVING AN HALLUCINATION, CAUSE THAT IS ONE SIGN I GUESS. ;D

WELL I AM NOT CONSIDERING MYSELF AS A GENIUS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE DID YOU GET THAT, MAYBE I'M BADNEUS ;D 8)

OKAY OKAY ENOUGH 8)

ANYWAY BY THE HIGHWAY UNDERWAY ON THE SUBWAY: ;D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn8vzTsnPps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn8vzTsnPps)
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE QUARREL TO ANYONE ANYMORE OKAY. :)

I JUST WANT TO HELP IN MY LITTLE GENIUS WAY OKAY. :D JOKE 8)

IF I MADE YOU MAD BECAUSE OF MY WAY OKAY, SORRY :) ;) :P

OKAY I'LL JUST GO AWAY. :'( :-\ :-* :P

BYE! >:( >:( >:( :-* :P

BADNEUS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 11, 2018, 03:24:19 AM

NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BECOME MAD HERE OR ANYWHERE BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS ARBITRARY OK. YOU CAN JUST DISCARD EVERYTHING.
JUST GO AWAY IS IT NOT?, WHY IT IS SO HARD FOR SOMEONE TO GO AWAY IF HE IS NOT BELIEVING TO SOMEONE ??? :-\

IS MAKING QUARRELING TO SOMEONE HELPFUL AND SAYING BAD THINGS TO SOMEONE GOOD TO FEEL? HUH? ???

WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT?, ARE YOU DESPERATE? :) CAN WE NOT TALK IN COOL DAZZLING MOOD? ;D

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE TO KILL SOMEONE JUST BECAUSE OF THAT? :o

THERE IS GOD AND GOD KNOWS WHAT YOU DID BOY!

SOMEDAY I'LL HUNT YOU MYSELF AND LETS DRINK TO THAT FRIEND. :D :-*

BYE
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 11, 2018, 03:44:05 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on October 08, 2018, 08:26:35 PM
there is one problem in these demonstrations. The upright standing parts have already used energy to be in the position they are in. There is not enough energy created in the successive falling domino effect to get them to all be in a standing position once more. Its like charging a bunch of caps, first one small and the last one large and just using the charge of the smaller one to trigger a transistor to drain the next cap into the next transistor and so on and so on. just a hypothetical example. But we in the end still need to recharge the caps. So what amount of energy did it take to set up these demonstrations compared to what we get out??? ;) If these are what you claim to be demos of free energy then I have to disagree. ;D
Mags

No buddy, what i'm trying to say is lot of work can be done already. :)

let say we discharge a cap on a coil with extra coil with a cap, then the kick produce by that is a lot of things bigger and manyer.
of course we are not going to use the coil producing the kick, what i mean is the full control of us is in the secondaries of course. :)

For example:
my centipede design, every leg of the centipede has a coil with extracoil with a cap then lots of power we can produce and the full control of us is in the secondary of every legs. we can then make some series or parallel and that's basic okay, for high current or high voltage.

the battery and the pulser is connected in the head and tail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vw1qgmmwkM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vw1qgmmwkM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwyXezXco6U

i think i'll go away again bro. i don't want to make quarrel here to anyone anymore again. :'( :'( :'( :-*

bye bro :-*

b4 i forget, this is not my best discovery, there is much more better than this actually. :) 8)
still the blackhole is the one containing the superior activity. 8)

God bless
centipede ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 11, 2018, 06:02:51 AM

i just want to share this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_HFnNTfyU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_HFnNTfyU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWiYsRi2Dss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWiYsRi2Dss)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5mA4l6xmGs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5mA4l6xmGs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpCEJxO6V9g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpCEJxO6V9g)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tJfqMYHaQw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tJfqMYHaQw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vauFEgRdYks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vauFEgRdYks) Therefore we can float the whole thing using the fountain patent of tesla ;) hope you got it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRPC7a_AcQo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRPC7a_AcQo)

combining them all, then we can fly! 8)

To everyone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M99NCxR0a-Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M99NCxR0a-Q)

goodbye everyone :) :'(
noicaro L. otits

THANK YOU EVERYONE!!! ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on October 11, 2018, 06:14:32 AM

>:( hi ... belfior

too much material current make your brain dead
disharged your heart into another coil with tail (be persisten)
get back your greed to the ground
your standing mouth wave .... is transversal to me ... its not good at all
always maintain humility momentum at all times ... oneway to Jesus ( unidirectional faith .. buddy )
keep pulsing your heart everyday to Him ... switch it fast .. very fast
pure potential ... and faith will reward you .. belfior
keep series resonance with Him .... be humble ...

disturb Jesus grace with your massless heart ... not with your current brain and logic
The Father and Aether ARE ONE ... IT'S everywhere and UNDETECTED with your limited multimeter ... no mater how you believe it.
May your undamped wave of hope to Him reward you ... belfior

peace and grace with you

regards,
Densama (dog of Christ)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on October 11, 2018, 08:34:10 AM

Quote from: densama on October 11, 2018, 06:14:32 AM
>:( hi ... belfior

too much material current make your brain dead
disharged your heart into another coil with tail (be persisten)
get back your greed to the ground
your standing mouth wave .... is transversal to me ... its not good at all
always maintain humility momentum at all times ... oneway to Jesus ( unidirectional faith .. buddy )
keep pulsing your heart everyday to Him ... switch it fast .. very fast
pure potential ... and faith will reward you .. belfior
keep series resonance with Him .... be humble ...

disturb Jesus grace with your massless heart ... not with your current brain and logic
The Father and Aether ARE ONE ... IT'S everywhere and UNDETECTED with your limited multimeter ... no mater how you believe it.
May your undamped wave of hope to Him reward you ... belfior

peace and grace with you

regards,
Densama (dog of Christ)

and plug the Holy Spirit to get free energy, alleluia, alleluia. ::)

Pascal, the great mathematician and philosopher who left his name to the pressure unit, said: "pray and make yourself stupid, faith will come in addition". ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on October 12, 2018, 11:48:13 AM

beautifully correct ... F6FLT

our five sense and logic are serphant ... our imagination, too
our heart and forehead is the ONLY one way to Him ...

God is NOT within us ...
God IS SPACE .... or the VOID as erfinder said
above, below, within, without and around everything ... UNSEEN

we loose our real humility because of our high comforts zone & false dignity
even sauron spirits keep hot electricity live till this day
we must never loose to sustain tesla faith with THE WHEEL OF NATURE

i believe cold electricity will not use for the mass and world ... but
it will all ways exist in our spirit till eternity

i know you laugh at me ...
but it's ok ... buddy ... i just wanna say thank youl ... bro

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on October 13, 2018, 09:01:29 AM

a one way cascade of capacitor discharges ... snowball .. after snowball .. getting bigger ... in power
power amplification is effect
magnetic field accumulation is a cause .. no need resonances

is that true ?

but how .. tito ( just give me some tesla clue circuit patent )
i prefer to think myself .. even for 10 years just read your post
i'm not yet find it .. except in my faith

laught at me ... :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on October 13, 2018, 12:30:13 PM

Quote from: densama on October 12, 2018, 11:48:13 AM
...
God is NOT within us ...
God IS SPACE ....

You obviously know God very well.
May I suggest that you ask your mate to provide you with the inspiration to build a working FE device? And you'd come back to show us your achievement?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ayeaye on October 13, 2018, 05:39:24 PM

F6FLT, so how is it, no overunity? No overunity is important too, at least now there is a method to find it out. They say abha coils, rodin coils, whatever, have overunity, now it can be tested whether it's true, if any of them has overunity, then this method will show that.

I don't know, i thought capacitance may provide overunity, though not much because the capacitance is not great. The bifilar pancake coils also generate static electricity, this may well be lenz free as well, if captured maybe may provide overunity. Though the answer is that i don't know, who can know what is exactly going on there, thus the need to measure.

Also, by these calculations, it may be possible to find out everything what is going on in the coil, only by calculations from this voltage on the coil. Like say the induction is exponent, but when it somewhat differs from exponent, this can be found out, then the question is why. The calculations can show everything, all the soul life of the coil.

Faraday said he does experiments to find out how the nature works. He thought god created the nature.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on October 13, 2018, 07:11:13 PM

Ayeaye, where did you get the idea that bifilar pancake coils generate static electricity? I would like to see some evidence of that. I have never read that before.

Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ayeaye on October 13, 2018, 07:50:47 PM

Quote from: citfta on October 13, 2018, 07:11:13 PM
Ayeaye, where did you get the idea that bifilar pancake coils generate static electricity? I would like to see some evidence of that. I have never read that before.

But Master Ivo, what about Master Ivo? In that, i don't agree with anything else that he says. But he really seems to show an electrostatic field generated by a bifilar pancake coil. This coil, at that, is two windings one on the other, likely doesn't work when the wires are next to each other, like in the original Tesla patent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHDrmGPY-78 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHDrmGPY-78)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on October 14, 2018, 10:47:34 AM

Quote from: ayeaye on October 13, 2018, 05:39:24 PM
...i thought capacitance may provide overunity

At my knowledge there is not yet experimental evidence.

Quote
The bifilar pancake coils also generate static electricity

What experiment do you refer to?

Quote
this may well be lenz free as well
...

For me "lenz free" is a nonsense. Lenz's law is the induction law applied when we consider that the output acts onto the input. Induction is only the result of relative motion of charges which influence each other. It is the same and one phenomenon, it doesn't matter that we call "output" or "input" the side of the charges we are looking at.

Quote
Faraday said he does experiments to find out how the nature works. He thought god created the nature.

The first progress came from the Renaissance, especially thanks to Galilee: the man begun to think that the nature obeyed logical laws that could be experimented and explained. It was a progress because before that, the leitmotif was "God works in mysterious ways", so the man couldn't even hope to understand anything, he didn't even have to try.

Because of the Renaissance, man understood that he could gain self-confidence to solve his problems, rather than rely on God. This has led to humanism, and science which has separated from philosophy/theology.
But at that time, and also at Faraday's time for many people possibly including him, the belief in God was still very strong, so it was necessary to recover the blow and people said, "God made these laws of nature" (and gave a brain to the men to understand it!).

Today it doesn't matter. There are no difference whether the physics laws are created by God or not. We are interested in physics laws, God is superfluous.
Emperor Napoleon I, who had asked the great scientist Lavoisier why he hadn't mentioned God in his discourse on secular variations of the orbits of Saturn and Jupiter, was answered : "Sir, I had no need of this hypothesis". :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 14, 2018, 03:17:31 PM

I also think capacitance is the key to overunity.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on October 15, 2018, 08:50:31 AM

Quote from: forest on October 14, 2018, 03:17:31 PM
I also think capacitance is the key to overunity.

There are as many possible keys as there are beliefs. Everyone has keys but none found the keyhole!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 15, 2018, 02:48:43 PM

Quote from: F6FLT on October 15, 2018, 08:50:31 AM
There are as many possible keys as there are beliefs. Everyone has keys but none found the keyhole!

it's around it's around

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on October 16, 2018, 07:50:08 AM

good spark from Sparks

The Tesla switch is basically allowing the current from one battery to charge another. Now lets move it up a notch and replace your batteries with two capacitors. The transformer load allows you to completely discharge the first capacitor and still charge the second. The current is transformed into voltage with less current flow but who cares it is still being captured and doing some work in the meantime. Your current is gonna run no matter which cap is being charged. You will have ohmic losses or heat and will have to recharge your capacitors unless you want to get into fine tuning the conductor fields. Voltage gain is power gain pure and simple. You take 1volt and transform that into 10,000 volts you done good. There's alot of one volts around not alot 10,000 volts around. The faster you allow a magnetic field to collapse the higher the induced voltage. Now you store this induced voltage in a capacitor and hit your next stage with a sharper pulse. The induced voltage gets stored again on a capacitor. Now you spike it again in another stage and store it. Now you can go on and on until your first little spike is now a huge spike. All starting from that first little spike. It will obviously take alot of time for all this spiking and staging and all the rest but we are talking energy here not work. Work is never conserved but energy is.

https://overunity.com/6123/joule-thief/1485/

Tito thorium idea ":

secret of the tpu!!!!!
A small kick is converted to a big kick that is by connecting a coil in a primary but not really using any current, but when theres a cut in the primary then the energy at the primary will be added to the connected coil in the primary, and that is the collapse energy. am i right sir 8)

its like increasing the collapse energy that nikola tesla has discovered, and that is the slight increase in the collapse ok. 8)
and from that we can make increase in the output!

https://overunity.com/6492/spikers/msg152431/#msg152431

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on October 16, 2018, 09:05:51 AM

except that slight increase is COP 10

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on October 18, 2018, 12:54:59 PM

a typhoon amplification can start from the smallest part of two bifilar coil moving from different winding direction
vortex happening in the middle .. as by product

Horatio ... there are more things in heaven and earth than are dream of in our science and philosophy.
Shakespeare

http://www.christsway.co.za/letters
just 4 maintain our faith in Aether ... our Father

His Son ... Jesus know well how to control proton, electron and neutron as He wish.
to change water into wine and took the five loaves and two fish and make it abudance to hungry follower.

everything is conciousness vibrating in different frequency'
no thing is solid

Jesus and Melchizedek IS the same

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on October 18, 2018, 10:41:24 PM

an inductor can be thought of as an electronic flywheel, and he does some tests on shorting the cap to energize the inductor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrwgEb5ac_w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQFD1cDlEUU

tried charging a cap bank on a bedini wheel using milliamps and ended up with over 1,000 V on the cap bank in no time and man could it deliver an instantaneous charge...so if you add the inductor as you say then yes big bang for the milliamp buck :)
How to returning that big bang to the source ??
(Goat post)

Just ground both capacitor and battery negative and touch positive of capacitor to positive of battery, you will see a back current flow to battery if capacitor if of correct value and enough charged (of cource voltage above battery).
The dump excess into battery but not allowing to kill the dipole, meaning voltage in capacitors HAS TO be left at higher level then power source.
(Forest reply)

https://overunity.com/8841/electrical-igniter-for-gas-engines-a-keystone-to-understanding-by-magluvin/525/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue6hK9xbdZk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0AVhZ0Vcos

hope this video correct and work as describe. Any idea Tito

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on October 24, 2018, 12:12:19 AM

hi ... what is ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 03, 2018, 07:59:26 AM

A coil that is pulsed using electrons will become negative and when its fied collapses it will pull positive energy from the atmosphere (cold electricity)
If you then take that positive energy and run it into another coil it becomes positive and when its field collapses it will pull negative energy from the atmosphere.

Combine the two circuits,
one circuits to disturb air molecules to separates electrons and protons ( ozone patent )
and the other circuits to collect.

What circuit to collect .... Dave45 ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on November 03, 2018, 10:12:17 AM

He's been suppressed for telling and shown us the truth. :-X :'(

Quote from: densama on November 03, 2018, 07:59:26 AM
A coil that is pulsed using electrons will become negative and when its fied collapses it will pull positive energy from the atmosphere (cold electricity)
If you then take that positive energy and run it into another coil it becomes positive and when its field collapses it will pull negative energy from the atmosphere.

Combine the two circuits,
one circuits to disturb air molecules to separates electrons and protons ( ozone patent )
and the other circuits to collect.

What circuit to collect .... Dave45 ?

. :-X

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 04, 2018, 12:09:53 PM

Quote from: F6FLT on October 13, 2018, 12:30:13 PM
You obviously know God very well.
May I suggest that you ask your mate to provide you with the inspiration to build a working FE device? And you'd come back to show us your achievement?

thanks .. bud
i never know God ... but try feel His grace in simple day life

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 04, 2018, 03:06:34 PM

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?FT=D&date=20030110&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=JP&NR=2003009558A&KC=A&ND=4#
What did he wrote in [O017]
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=JP&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2003009558&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=ja&TRGLANG=en
"...... several times to several tens of times the input power,... "
Sincerely OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 06, 2018, 11:50:30 AM

http://ceritapic.pw/tesla-bifilar-coil-free-energy-Cerca-con-Google-ELEKTRONIKA.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 07, 2018, 10:24:06 AM

"The Great One produces the two poles, which in turn give rise to the energies of the dark (yin) and the light (yang). These two energies then transform themselves, one rising upwards, and the other descending downwards; they merge again and give rise to form." – Book 5, Chapter 2 from Lu-sih ch'un-ch'iu (Spring and Autumn Annals)

http://www.energeticforum.com/john-bedini/1438-bedinis-ssg-secrets.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 07, 2018, 08:59:51 PM

FINALLY........................FOR THE TRUTH.............. :)

IN FREE ENERGY OR OVERUNITY

"IT IS NOT THE VOLTAGE GAIN OR CURRENT GAIN IS THE IMPORTANT BUT!!!!!! "

THE STRENGTH AN ARRANGEMENT IT CAN SEPARATE CHARGES AND THAT IS GENERALLY STRONG AND SUPERIOR.....

BYE EVERYONE :) ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 08, 2018, 01:20:55 AM

wuhai ... Tito :)

just finish collecting your post and prepare to meditate next month for my self experiment. Just starting buy the material this week. I'm sooooo afraid with electricity. Pray for me .... >:(

Hope wonderful day .... Pinoy and all.
We loose Dave45 .... ooh

and need help little ... bro Tito
theres some material thats need to bought by me ... hope you willing to mention the more detail material specs here ::)

No, i dont need to know your circuit arrangement ... let Lord Jesus be my guide along my experiment road months ahead. You Tito ... already give enough wonderpul clue and hints.

wuuuuu ... haiiiiiii ... Otits

Melchizedek my only Lord. Hope someday i will become slave of HIS truth ..... like George Fox the quacker

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 08, 2018, 01:38:47 AM

Quote from: densama on November 08, 2018, 01:20:55 AM
wuhai ... Tito :)

just finish collecting your post and prepare to meditate next month for my self experiment. Just starting buy the material this week. I'm sooooo afraid with electricity. Pray for me .... >:(

Hope wonderful day .... Pinoy and all.
We loose Dave45 .... ooh

ok, just be careful bud, cause if you do it in high voltage then its really dangerous but here is a tip
"you can also do it in very small voltage just use one no #10 and number #28 awg"

hope you get it bro. :)

why? what happen to dave45? :o i think i'm gonna hide now! :o :o :o ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: fer123 on November 08, 2018, 12:56:23 PM

Hello Tito L. Oracion, can you have a look in this video an tell me please if will work? I am follow your comments and I feel very happy you still around. Thanks a lot.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 09, 2018, 03:31:26 AM

Quote from: fer123 on November 08, 2018, 12:56:23 PM
Hello Tito L. Oracion, can you have a look in this video an tell me please if will work? I am follow your comments and I feel very happy you still around. Thanks a lot.

YES!!!, IT CAN HELP BUT!!!, IT CHARGES THE BATTERY WHEN THERE IS AIR OR WATER BLOWING AND FLOWING, AND THERE THE PROBLEM COMES WHEN THERE IS NOT ENOUGH FLOW OR BLOW TO ROTATE THE ALTERNATOR. SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO ADD SOLAR SOURCE TO CHARGE THE BATTERY BANK CONTINUESLY, HOPELY THERE IS ALWAYS SUN :D [size=78%].[/size] AND NOT ONLY THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE ENOUGH BACK UP BATTERY BANK SUPPLY DEPENDS ON YOUR NEEDS. :) ;)

BUT! IF YOU CHOOSE THE RADIANT OR THE MAGNIFYING TRANSMITTER RECEIVER OF TESLA I THINK IT IS MUCH BETTER THAN THOSE, CAUSE IT MAKE CHARGE DAY AND NIGHT EVEN NO FLOWING,BLOWING OR NO SUN 8) ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TO MAKE A LOT OF THEM AND SUPER AMPLIFY THE RECEIVER. 8) [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 09, 2018, 03:40:59 AM

NEED LOT OF ACTIVITY???

WELL THEN YOU HAVE TO ADD LOTS OF COILS TO SPIKE, AND CENTIPEDE TECH IS GOOD FOR THAT! 8)

EVERY CUT THERE'S THE SPIKE AND IF YOU PUT TEN COILS THEN YOU HAVE TEN SPIKE AND YOU CAN PUT A LOT OF LEG AS I HAVE SAID AWHILE POST AGO. OKAY? 8)

IMAGINATION IS YOUR LIMITATION OK! :D

or
make my triple ping pong tech, 1,2,3 batch of caps, first, pulse the first batch of caps to the first coils with secondary, then pulse the second batch of caps to coils with secondary then pulse the third batch of caps to the third coil with secondary then return to first batch.
in this sense you are just making rotation of charge and discharge but making an energy at the secondary to separate or charge the battery. just play with that ok, they are truth!!! >:( [size=78%] [/size]
[size=78%]
[/size]
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: fer123 on November 09, 2018, 09:05:09 AM

Thanks Tito L. Oracion, I see a real good person tried to help real people in the sea of sharks, yes I did the system in the video and used a little motor to push the alternator until it blow out the exciter coil and everything stop there.
I like the idea to pulse a cap connected to primary coil in ferrite rod and the secondary to a second cap and go on, and look where to place diode? is this the idea Thanks a lot Tito. Best wish. :) :) :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 09, 2018, 10:10:56 AM

YOU ALWAYS SAID THE TRUTH ... TITOOOOOO ..... and no one pay 4 your generosity ... NO ONE
I must shut my mouth OFF ... how unthankful me

I'm NOT Tito ... who said that we came from Javanesia .. bro
Lord give more admonition to our country but ... still there's people harden their heart after earthquake and tsunami

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 10, 2018, 04:33:26 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EcjWd-O4jI it's a pump ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 10, 2018, 04:36:28 AM

I believe we are pumping solar wind and cosmic rays aka white noise ;-)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 10, 2018, 10:25:16 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meOJRCjAvhg&list=RDmeOJRCjAvhg&start_radio=1

hi ... kawan mari gabung disini

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 11, 2018, 05:31:09 AM

To understand the action of the local condenser E in Fig. 2, let a single discharge be first considered. This discharge has two paths offered—one to the condenser E, the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L, however, by virtue of its self-induction, offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge, while the condenser, on the other hand, offers no such opposition. The result is that practically no current passes at first through the branch L, but presumably opposite electricities rush to the condenser-coatings, this storing for the moment electrical energy in the condenser. Time is gained by this means, and the condenser then discharges through the branch L, this process being repeated for each discharge occurring at D. The amount of electrical energy stored in the condenser at each charge is dependent upon the capacity of the condenser and the potential of its plates. It is evident, therefore, that the quicker the discharges succeed each other the smaller for a given output need be the capacity of the condenser and the greater is also the efficiency of the condenser. This is confirmed by practical results.

Tesla

Yes, and it consists of two discs of aluminum, with teeth of aluminum on the side. They were rotated by two motors in opposite directions, and as they rotated they alternately closed and opened the circuit. In some instances I used an uneven number of teeth on one and and even number on the other so that I could produce as many breaks as I desired. I will show you later an apparatus more perfect than this one, and of a different kind, in which I have 24 stationary contacts, and 25 rotating elements that established the contact and broke it, so that by one revolution I obtained 24 times 25, or 600 interruptions [per revolution].

Counsel : Whenever you say "the break", you mean "a spark gap"?

Tesla : Yes. otherwise I use the term "circuit controller," preferably.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on November 11, 2018, 11:52:41 AM

Quote from: forest on November 10, 2018, 04:36:28 AM
I believe we are pumping solar wind and cosmic rays aka white noise ;-)

white noise is the frequencies of the ether. All those RF pulses that have penetrated all the space so that it is ambient

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on November 13, 2018, 08:01:00 AM

fulfilling a request
from Ballanger's post
here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20627-daniel-mcfarland-cook-4.html
copy paste I have some very interesting info regarding the Daniel Cook invention and news that it does work, however I had a vision of a similar device and decided to give it a shot, wiring the coils and situating two C cores laying end to end into 4 separate coils, l wired and closed the loop for "echo" operation, so if we created a pulse, in my opinion may be able to continue on and on and ring/pulse power forever provided we have Earth's magnetic field and atmospheric or capacitive energy discharging into the device through the air without any arcs to supplement the magnetic field needed to keep it operating. 2 of the coils were wound around in the center (which is the place that 2 of the ecore ends meet giving us the primary coil, which I made Bifilar, and 2 separately wound on each opposing end cross polarized as he did to try to make up a self operational device that needs only a pass of a magnet to get it started. To take power from the device, I wound a coil over the center bifilar primary coils and once a pulse of energy was given and taken away, the device did continuously output 2.8 VDC and it remained on, able to power a small string of leds without shutting down. I could put a string of ten together in parallel and they did all light up without any difficulty, but one strange thing needed to be done before the device functioned without any decent output (which ended up being 36 vdc once I added a connection).

I will wait for replies from you and everybody else to see if you guys could figure out what it was I did to get a major gain in output power. Oh, by the way, my coils were prewired for 2 different configurations at two different
times, I never wanted to make this device from scratch, I just had an idea that made me try this, and I never rewound them to create equal coils, but I will eventually do so and try some other things, such as try to isolate the cores from each other, which they physically touch conductively, and they become part of the same core when this happens, so if we eliminate this, maybe anti lenz properties will make the device gain more output with a much lower powered pulse for the input.

Unfortunately, the two sets of coils wound on the ends were different amounts of turns and wire size, making the coils uneven and probably the reason why I had little luck with the voltage I was hoping to get, but I one day will retry and make this as successful as I could.

Let's see if you guys could figure out how to tie the system into Earth's magnetic field so it operates as it should in Daniel's document. His device is very real and my idea had nothing to do with his invention or patent since mine is actually configured differently, but the concept is very similar.

This should be interesting to see what you all may tell me for the final connection that completes it and makes it function. I will answer this question after a few comments , especially when somebody gets it correct. It's based on the works of Tesla and is the ONLY way more power could seem to come out than go in, but this is not true overunity, it is coupling with the Earth's magnetic field, obviously magnetically and since it does this, it has to draw energy in from the aether, but to do this, we need it to couple to the Earth's atmospheric energy capacitively.

This is tricky, but one simple connection is all that is needed to make it run, as well, the device needs to have shielding tied into one particular side of a coil to create the capacitive coupling needed to draw in the atmospheric energy input, and the shielding does not need to be tied to ground, it needs to be coated with a specific material to attract positive ions from the environment, it doesn't need grounding on the shield to stop interference or create a safe device as in the electrical world. Grounded shields eliminate outside power from being drawn in and it also stops interference for the most part until different energy types are used within specific proximities to these kind of components.

Strangely enough, when I pulsed power (12vdc) across one of the primary coils while tied in as seen in my image, the device stayed powered up. When I introduced the load, the voltage stayed the same and didn't change one bit. When I tied in one connection, the voltage multiplied and remained powerful. This is the concept of my Pelex device, however Pelex is always tied into the power system and introduces a massively amplified output amperage while the power input uses no more than the power needed to energize the coil. The field around these devices will stop cellphones and wifi systems from operating within 250 to 300 feet regardless of ground shielding. I needed to shield the device in crystal powder and place that inside of a grounded steel enclosure, leaving the shielding around the coil tied to an antenna way above the dwelling it was used in.

The Pelex device has since been deconstructed because I have been threatened by folks that I refused to give the technology away for free, as well, I have had some rather scary moments when dark suvs with men in suits and sunglasses surrounded me at a local gas station, they all got out encircled me and told me the device will never hit the market otherwise I would lose one child at a time until their demands were met. This all started because I took a cash lump sum from an entrepreneur to allow him 20% of the profits if he would put it into production and get licensing, etc.

He has not been seen for almost 6 years, never contacted me, his phones are all disconnected and it seems as if he has fallen from the face of the Earth. I will no longer be in business to sell free energy devices. You guys could all go ahead and try this , then see what Iam talking about with the fields. The device could never be UL listed because shielding required by the NEC must be able to perform under normal circumstances using an NEC approved metallic grounded electrical enclosure. Unfortunately, it doesn't stop the nature of the interference since it is not static, magnetic, alpha, beta or anything that could be measured by the engineering class it was demonstrated to. They also didn't believe it that it could actually function as it did and the Professor told them that no papers could ever be published linked to him or the school since it against the laws of physics for it to operate and according to the dean of the school would NOT be allowed to be acknowledged by the university in any way shape or form until Science acknowledges overunity technologies of any kind. We have overunity devices out there being used every day, they will always tell you it can't happen and will never admit it. The LED is one, and the Microwave oven is another.

Thanks for taking the time to read my comment! Please see the attached image below the entire comment and reply that I uploaded to see how the device schematic appears. Thank you .

Regards,
Dezeinstein
(http://www.energeticforum.com/images/smilies/cheers.gif)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on November 13, 2018, 10:18:53 AM

Thank you so much ramset

Quote from: ramset on November 13, 2018, 08:01:00 AM
fulfilling a request
from Ballanger's post
here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20627-daniel-mcfarland-cook-4.html
copy paste I have some very interesting info regarding the Daniel Cook invention and news that it does work, however I had a vision of a similar device and decided to give it a shot, wiring the coils and situating two C cores laying end to end into 4 separate coils, l wired and closed the loop for "echo" operation, so if we created a pulse, in my opinion may be able to continue on and on and ring/pulse power forever provided we have Earth's magnetic field and atmospheric or capacitive energy discharging into the device through the air without any arcs to supplement the magnetic field needed to keep it operating. 2 of the coils were wound around in the center (which is the place that 2 of the ecore ends meet giving us the primary coil, which I made Bifilar, and 2 separately wound on each opposing end cross polarized as he did to try to make up a self operational device that needs only a pass of a magnet to get it started. To take power from the device, I wound a coil over the center bifilar primary coils and once a pulse of energy was given and taken away, the device did continuously output 2.8 VDC and it remained on, able to power a small string of leds without shutting down. I could put a string of ten together in parallel and they did all light up without any difficulty, but one strange thing needed to be done before the device functioned without any decent output (which ended up being 36 vdc once I added a connection).

I will wait for replies from you and everybody else to see if you guys could figure out what it was I did to get a major gain in output power. Oh, by the way, my coils were prewired for 2 different configurations at two different
times, I never wanted to make this device from scratch, I just had an idea that made me try this, and I never rewound them to create equal coils, but I will eventually do so and try some other things, such as try to isolate the cores from each other, which they physically touch conductively, and they become part of the same core when this happens, so if we eliminate this, maybe anti lenz properties will make the device gain more output with a much lower powered pulse for the input.

Unfortunately, the two sets of coils wound on the ends were different amounts of turns and wire size, making the coils uneven and probably the reason why I had little luck with the voltage I was hoping to get, but I one day will retry and make this as successful as I could.

Let's see if you guys could figure out how to tie the system into Earth's magnetic field so it operates as it should in Daniel's document. His device is very real and my idea had nothing to do with his invention or patent since mine is actually configured differently, but the concept is very similar.

This should be interesting to see what you all may tell me for the final connection that completes it and makes it function. I will answer this question after a few comments , especially when somebody gets it correct. It's based on the works of Tesla and is the ONLY way more power could seem to come out than go in, but this is not true overunity, it is coupling with the Earth's magnetic field, obviously magnetically and since it does this, it has to draw energy in from the aether, but to do this, we need it to couple to the Earth's atmospheric energy capacitively.

This is tricky, but one simple connection is all that is needed to make it run, as well, the device needs to have shielding tied into one particular side of a coil to create the capacitive coupling needed to draw in the atmospheric energy input, and the shielding does not need to be tied to ground, it needs to be coated with a specific material to attract positive ions from the environment, it doesn't need grounding on the shield to stop interference or create a safe device as in the electrical world. Grounded shields eliminate outside power from being drawn in and it also stops interference for the most part until different energy types are used within specific proximities to these kind of components.

Strangely enough, when I pulsed power (12vdc) across one of the primary coils while tied in as seen in my image, the device stayed powered up. When I introduced the load, the voltage stayed the same and didn't change one bit. When I tied in one connection, the voltage multiplied and remained powerful. This is the concept of my Pelex device, however Pelex is always tied into the power system and introduces a massively amplified output amperage while the power input uses no more than the power needed to energize the coil. The field around these devices will stop cellphones and wifi systems from operating within 250 to 300 feet regardless of ground shielding. I needed to shield the device in crystal powder and place that inside of a grounded steel enclosure, leaving the shielding around the coil tied to an antenna way above the dwelling it was used in.

The Pelex device has since been deconstructed because I have been threatened by folks that I refused to give the technology away for free, as well, I have had some rather scary moments when dark suvs with men in suits and sunglasses surrounded me at a local gas station, they all got out encircled me and told me the device will never hit the market otherwise I would lose one child at a time until their demands were met. This all started because I took a cash lump sum from an entrepreneur to allow him 20% of the profits if he would put it into production and get licensing, etc.

He has not been seen for almost 6 years, never contacted me, his phones are all disconnected and it seems as if he has fallen from the face of the Earth. I will no longer be in business to sell free energy devices. You guys could all go ahead and try this , then see what Iam talking about with the fields. The device could never be UL listed because shielding required by the NEC must be able to perform under normal circumstances using an NEC approved metallic grounded electrical enclosure. Unfortunately, it doesn't stop the nature of the interference since it is not static, magnetic, alpha, beta or anything that could be measured by the engineering class it was demonstrated to. They also didn't believe it that it could actually function as it did and the Professor told them that no papers could ever be published linked to him or the school since it against the laws of physics for it to operate and according to the dean of the school would NOT be allowed to be acknowledged by the university in any way shape or form until Science acknowledges overunity technologies of any kind. We have overunity devices out there being used every day, they will always tell you it can't happen and will never admit it. The LED is one, and the Microwave oven is another.

Thanks for taking the time to read my comment! Please see the attached image below the entire comment and reply that I uploaded to see how the device schematic appears. Thank you .

Regards,
Dezeinstein
(http://www.energeticforum.com/images/smilies/cheers.gif)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on November 13, 2018, 10:21:57 AM

Thank so much you ;D ;D ;D Tito L. :o :o :o 8)

QuoteNEED LOT OF ACTIVITY???

WELL THEN YOU HAVE TO ADD LOTS OF COILS TO SPIKE, AND CENTIPEDE TECH IS GOOD FOR THAT! 8)

EVERY CUT THERE'S THE SPIKE AND IF YOU PUT TEN COILS THEN YOU HAVE TEN SPIKE AND YOU CAN PUT A LOT OF LEG AS I HAVE SAID AWHILE POST AGO. OKAY? 8)

IMAGINATION IS YOUR LIMITATION OK! :D

or
make my triple ping pong tech, 1,2,3 batch of caps, first, pulse the first batch of caps to the first coils with secondary, then pulse the second batch of caps to coils with secondary then pulse the third batch of caps to the third coil with secondary then return to first batch.
in this sense you are just making rotation of charge and discharge but making an energy at the secondary to separate or charge the battery. just play with that ok, they are truth!!! >:( [size=78%] [/size]
[size=78%]
[/size]
;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on November 13, 2018, 04:14:56 PM

TITO, TITO, TITO.....YES OR NO :-* :-* :-* ;D 8)

Quote from: leonelogb on November 13, 2018, 10:21:57 AM
Thank so much you ;D ;D ;D Tito L. :o :o :o 8)

I CAN NOT PUT THE SCHEMATIC....WHY........ ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D 8) 8) 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 13, 2018, 11:41:36 PM

use one no #10 and number #28 awg.

Primary = #28 gauge magnet wire
Secondary = #10 gauge insulated wire
The primary and secondary coils are wound in opposite directions CW & CCW.

Bob Honest Smith wrote :
The two secondaries strike me as L-C circuits (there's no capacitor in the diagram - the missing component?). The cross polarity enables them to fire 180 degrees out of phase. When the cap on one side discharges in the positive phase, the other secondary draws in charge from the aether, then the converse takes place. It strikes me as essentially a ping-pong type of circuit - not a closed system, but one that is open to ambient charge. The bifilar primary would prevent secondary reflection from the pickup coil. I suspect diodes might also be needed between the secondaries and primary.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20627-daniel-mcfarland-cook-4.html

again ... when there's free current .... also exist ping pong circuit .... why Tito ??? ??? ::)

https://www.hallvworthington.com/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on November 14, 2018, 05:04:24 AM

Primary = #28 gauge magnet wire bifilar(two primary)
then secondary in serial with one primary # 10
Then other secondary as collector

Quote from: densama on November 13, 2018, 11:41:36 PM
use one no #10 and number #28 awg.

Primary = #28 gauge magnet wire
Secondary = #10 gauge insulated wire
The primary and secondary coils are wound in opposite directions CW & CCW.

Bob Honest Smith wrote :
The two secondaries strike me as L-C circuits (there's no capacitor in the diagram - the missing component?). The cross polarity enables them to fire 180 degrees out of phase. When the cap on one side discharges in the positive phase, the other secondary draws in charge from the aether, then the converse takes place. It strikes me as essentially a ping-pong type of circuit - not a closed system, but one that is open to ambient charge. The bifilar primary would prevent secondary reflection from the pickup coil. I suspect diodes might also be needed between the secondaries and primary.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20627-daniel-mcfarland-cook-4.html

again ... when there's free current .... also exist ping pong circuit .... why Tito ??? ??? ::)

https://www.hallvworthington.com/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 14, 2018, 08:29:38 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on November 14, 2018, 05:04:24 AM
Primary = #28 gauge magnet wire bifilar(two primary)
then secondary in serial with one primary # 10
Then other secondary as collector

whaaaaat ? .... why you tell the truth leonelogb .... why ? :-*
where is endless mouth circuit ? ;)

your answer ... give standing wave to aether .. leonelogb :)
there's silent here ... busy contructing the circuit and keep for himself

soooo ... selfish the people here that attack and insult Tito and Dave45 >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on November 15, 2018, 08:13:48 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 09, 2018, 03:40:59 AM
NEED LOT OF ACTIVITY???

WELL THEN YOU HAVE TO ADD LOTS OF COILS TO SPIKE, AND CENTIPEDE TECH IS GOOD FOR THAT! 8)

EVERY CUT THERE'S THE SPIKE AND IF YOU PUT TEN COILS THEN YOU HAVE TEN SPIKE AND YOU CAN PUT A LOT OF LEG AS I HAVE SAID AWHILE POST AGO. OKAY? 8)

IMAGINATION IS YOUR LIMITATION OK! :D

or
make my triple ping pong tech, 1,2,3 batch of caps, first, pulse the first batch of caps to the first coils with secondary, then pulse the second batch of caps to coils with secondary then pulse the third batch of caps to the third coil with secondary then return to first batch.
in this sense you are just making rotation of charge and discharge but making an energy at the secondary to separate or charge the battery. just play with that ok, they are truth!!! >:( [size=78%] [/size]
[size=78%]
[/size]
;D

hey tito
So is there multiple primary coils and just 1 secondary?? Like are we to drive multiple primaries in succession into the single secondary? ???
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 17, 2018, 01:44:18 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on November 13, 2018, 04:14:56 PM
TITO, TITO, TITO.....YES OR NO :-* :-* :-* ;D 8)

I CAN NOT PUT THE SCHEMATIC....WHY........ ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D 8) 8) 8)

leonelogb ... is this what you mean ... brothas :o

yes or no ... ? i'm waiting ::) and to raise the amperage .. we must use very thick wire . Hope i correct :o

centipede design with twist ? what twist ? and little modification ... of course .....
700 million questions is ? hoooow ? :-* is diode placement is correct ? :o

endless ocean light and orgasm is coming ... ning ... nong
whaaaat ? ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hixjMNuGmFk
lets ... praise Our Lord Melchizedek

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on November 21, 2018, 08:21:09 AM

voltage spike into current. Final something!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: fer123 on November 21, 2018, 02:51:06 PM

Thanks Densama for sheering the shematic . ;) :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on November 22, 2018, 07:38:53 PM

forgot how to delete

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 24, 2018, 12:49:20 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phFij-01hBk&pbjreload=10
hope pinoy get great tech .... and perfect it ... next millenium
:o

let say we have a awg#14 wire as core and a awg#22 then make the awg#22 a bipilar and perpendicular to the awg#14. The source is AA batery, then pulse it and check the energy created in awg#14 ;). ooooops: i forgot, there should be an extended wire of atleast awg#8 connected in the awg#22 to do the magic. ;D
:-* ... always remember that words ... Tits

how is the connection of the primary-bifilar with the secondary, who is who actually does the magic :o
https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/7590/
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6p1Tqt5dWQWNjA1MWE2NjAtMjQ3MS00YzNhLTkzZGQtM2JkNzMxMzBmNzE2
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6p1Tqt5dWQWT1hjQlF2dk5mdFE

leonelogb is Tito father ...
ha ... ha ... ning ... nong :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 24, 2018, 01:13:19 PM

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/9656-electric-field-magnet-28.html :D
https://overunity.com/5144/infinity-coil/90/ ::)
https://artojh.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/multi-filar-coils/ :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on November 24, 2018, 11:31:47 PM

Hey densama, Guess what ;D ;D ;D who wrote this, I know that you will like this quote ::) ::) ::) 8)

El transformador se queda energizado por horas o por siempre jejeje :-X

QuoteOne more thing, about Tesla's bifilar coil. I made an interesting setup once, basically a solid state Bedini type oscillator, but instead of having a cap receiving the coil collapse I connected a bifilar coil. Meaning the output of the power coil was connected to a bifilar coil with a diode (like in normal Bedini setup). The wires on the other side of the bifilar were left open. Running the circuit for even just a fraction of time would charge the bifilar coil like a cap, and the neat thing was that it could sit there for hours after the circuit had been shut off, when I would short its open wires it would discharge with a bang just like a cap, well, because it is

Quote from: densama on November 24, 2018, 12:49:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phFij-01hBk&pbjreload=10
hope pinoy get great tech .... and perfect it ... next millenium
:o

let say we have a awg#14 wire as core and a awg#22 then make the awg#22 a bipilar and perpendicular to the awg#14. The source is AA batery, then pulse it and check the energy created in awg#14 ;). ooooops: i forgot, there should be an extended wire of atleast awg#8 connected in the awg#22 to do the magic. ;D
:-* ... always remember that words ... Tits

how is the connection of the primary-bifilar with the secondary, who is who actually does the magic :o
https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/7590/
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6p1Tqt5dWQWNjA1MWE2NjAtMjQ3MS00YzNhLTkzZGQtM2JkNzMxMzBmNzE2
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6p1Tqt5dWQWT1hjQlF2dk5mdFE

leonelogb is Tito father ...
ha ... ha ... ning ... nong :P

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 26, 2018, 01:47:12 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on November 24, 2018, 11:31:47 PM
Hey densama, Guess what ;D ;D ;D who wrote this, I know that you will like this quote ::) ::) ::) 8)

OF COURSE LEONELOGB .... DAVE45 who wrote that 8) :-* ;D
is my english correct ... buddy ?? :'(

hemmm ... hope Dave45 talk with ping pong ning nong universe ... he is get good grasp from the UNSEEN world ... come back ... please ... ::) ;)

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_36.htm
https://www.christsway.co.za/letters/letter-summaries

I personally think the secret to free energy is the shorted coil, when a shorted coil is introduced into a system the shorted coil will pull in the aether, when a coil is pusled by a circut or a magnet the field builds then collapses into the coil windings (bemf) but when a shorted coil is pulsed its field fluctuates but will not collapse, the other fields collapsing will draw energy from the shorted coils field if they are in resonance. Dave45

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 26, 2018, 10:40:23 AM

Charging capacitors in parallel and discharging them in series into many bifilar coil (very thick wire) that connected in parallel gives a lot of energy. After capacitors discharge .... the bifilar coils has a reaction of sucking energy in the environment that makes a second reaction from the first action.

Power comes from coil, so to get more power we use more coil. Use a thin copper like 22awg (many wind) then use a small caps that serve as a booster then use a thick copper like #4-10 awg for output. Notice when tesla use small capacitor in his tesla coil.

technique number 4 : combine tesla ozone pattent within ossie callanan circuit to get more output. Add up some secondaries coils in ossie's callanan series coils .... then connecting them in parallel to add more extra juice. Then .... add a lot of transistors in 7812 setup as current amplifier in the secondaries.

Thanks ... Tito. (another my favorite notes from Tits). ;D :P
Is my interpretation correct ? or my English soo funny ... Magluvin ? :-[

why you are hide ... Mag ? why you don't tell your circuit ? :'(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on November 26, 2018, 03:19:55 PM

Quote from: densama on November 26, 2018, 10:40:23 AM
Charging capacitors in parallel and discharging them in series into many bifilar coil (very thick wire) that connected in parallel gives a lot of energy. After capacitors discharge .... the bifilar coils has a reaction of sucking energy in the environment that makes a second reaction from the first action.

Power comes from coil, so to get more power we use more coil. Use a thin copper like 22awg (many wind) then use a small caps that serve as a booster then use a thick copper like #4-10 awg for output. Notice when tesla use small capacitor in his tesla coil.

technique number 4 : combine tesla ozone pattent within ossie callanan circuit to get more output. Add up some secondaries coils in ossie's callanan series coils .... then connecting them in parallel to add more extra juice. Then .... add a lot of transistors in 7812 setup as current amplifier in the secondaries.

Thanks ... Tito. (another my favorite notes from Tits). ;D :P
Is my interpretation correct ? or my English soo funny ... Magluvin ? :-[

why you are hide ... Mag ? why you don't tell your circuit ? :'(

Densama,

You seem to be confused about some of the basics of electronics. I have highlighted a couple of those items in your quote above. I have worked in electronics for over 50 years. I have actively pursued many free energy ideas for over ten years now. I have never seen any evidence that bifilar coils can suck any energy from the environment. Do you have any concrete evidence or experiments that show this is true?

The 7812 circuit you refer to is just a normal 12 volt regulator circuit. It is not a current amplifier. If you have another circuit by the same designation that is a current amplifier then please post that and I will retract what I have posted.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 27, 2018, 03:13:09 AM

Citfta ... you are correct .... :D
don't follow me ... follow real man here : Tito, Wattsup, Dave45, Leonelogb, Bob Smith, and other honest person with correct electronic knowledge.

i just have faith in Tits device .... no real device except in my heart. Its why you laught at me ... thanks Cifta
BUT ... Tito clues and words always smell me like the PURE TRUTH :-* ;D ;) that make my truth antenna always SPIKE HARD

forget my post if anybody here feel unsure .. please
i'm sooo afraid with current ... there's bad experience in my side :-[

thank Cifta ... for remind me :)
https://translate.google.co.id/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=id&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fut27972.narod.ru%2FBook_2%2F93_Book_2_part_93.htm&edit-text=

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 28, 2018, 05:33:07 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on November 15, 2018, 08:13:48 PM
hey tito
So is there multiple primary coils and just 1 secondary?? Like are we to drive multiple primaries in succession into the single secondary? ???
Mags

No! :o but multiple primaries and multiple secondaries in the legs, these legs are primaries and secondaries ok. :)
its up to us then if what we want to do to the secondaries, if we want parallel or serie, thats basic ok. :)
and for me its not the best design though. :( sorry bud. :(

@ all
i cannot be here always anymore, cause i'm busy. sorry. cannot reply more.

remember: the way to the truth is don't kill the dipole. :) 8)
how to do that?: well just make a strong charge separator. thats it. ;)
OF COURSE: THE MANY THE BETTER. 8)

bye everyone
God bless and GOODBYE AGAIN ;D
ETIOTS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on November 28, 2018, 07:15:39 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 28, 2018, 05:33:07 AM
...
remember: the way to the truth is don't kill the dipole. :) 8)
...

"don't kill the dipole" ::) is a childish tagline, it's the "truth" from Bearden, "one of the most intensely unhinged crackpots to have walked the face of the earth":
http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2013/03/480-tom-bearden.html
From what I've studied about the MEG, that's the obvious conclusion.

The FE gurus have never built a single machine that works or produced a single theory verified by a single machine that works. They are not only useless for our purpose but misleading, counterproductive and harmful. To repeat their dogmas is like reciting acts of faith or entering a sect or religion. A great mystery is presented to the manipulated adept who accepts to replace his intelligence with a blind faith, it's easy, it doesn't require efforts, it's mentally comfortable and it's within the reach of anyone who doesn't have intellectual requirements.

Kill the dipole if you want, if you are a free thinker. Bearden doesn't know more than you about the so-called "free energy".

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on November 28, 2018, 07:35:59 AM

Quote from: citfta on November 26, 2018, 03:19:55 PM
...I have worked in electronics for over 50 years. I have actively pursued many free energy ideas for over ten years now. I have never seen any evidence that bifilar coils can suck any energy from the environment...

Hi Carroll
I am in the same situation as you (except that I have been in electronics for less than 50 years). I have also experimented many things for 12 years. All apparently brilliant ideas end quickly and suddenly when they face facts and reality, including our own. But they are noisily and endlessly recycled by unskilled people while we need much smarter ideas...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 28, 2018, 03:05:29 PM

Sorry, I spent 18 years. Still no working device (though, due to many reasons) but I know Tito is right. Don't kill the dipole is the right answer. Tom Bearden got it right, but maybe he didn't catch the energy source. Explanation is not very complicated. Look around what fields you can find everywhere - that's the answer. Edwin Gray has the next tip for you, if you figure it out you will know Bearden is right... Steven Mark, Alfred Hubbard,Lester Hendershot, even Daniel McFarland Cook or many unknown persons - they tried to help us change the world before we destroy it by climate change.... Look what Bedini posted in his old web pages , the prophecy (it seems he knew also...)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 28, 2018, 03:09:35 PM

https://johnbedini.net/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on November 28, 2018, 05:13:57 PM

Quote from: forest on November 28, 2018, 03:05:29 PM
Sorry, I spent 18 years. Still no working device (though, due to many reasons) but I know Tito is right....

it's not knowledge, it's a belief.
Bearden is an intellectual scammer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on November 29, 2018, 10:49:02 AM

Quote from: F6FLT on November 28, 2018, 05:13:57 PM
it's not knowledge, it's a belief.
Bearden is an intellectual scammer.

This puny F6FLT thinks he knows energy transfer and Tesla!!!!! The scam of the century!!!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: memoryman on November 29, 2018, 02:15:10 PM

Belief is based on evidence.
Faith does not require evidence.
Bearden et al do not supply evidence.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 29, 2018, 04:46:59 PM

PARDON ME, Nicola Tesla s work is empirical honorable and because this remembering him the scientifical society honored his lifetime work with the attribution to give the magnetic force the title : Tesla ( before Gauss/Oersted).To understand the several hundreds of the "Tesla Laboratories" patent-office applied ideas from several dozens/hundreds "Tesla Laboratories"-emploiees is another problem.
The "resonance"-effect is never an overunity effect, it is an energy-surplus effect, like by the Sadi Carnot thermo-/cryo dynamic cycle, reversible.But ever only leased, Gibbs-theorem. Energy conservation law.But the Gibbs-theorem field can become huge, solar system huge.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on November 29, 2018, 05:56:15 PM

Quote from: memoryman on November 29, 2018, 02:15:10 PM
Belief is based on evidence.
Faith does not require evidence.
Bearden et al do not supply evidence.

Bearden was about to go intro production with the MEG. But the company that produced the cores was bought out by Hewlett Packard and the facility was moved from LA to Haryana on the other side of the planet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3bVUr5nHaM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on November 29, 2018, 06:30:57 PM

Over the past 10 years or so I have seen several attempts by people to build a working MEG. None of them were successful. And watching YouTube videos about free energy devices is just about as useful as reading comic books about your favorite action hero. It's entertaining but totally worthless.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on November 30, 2018, 08:59:53 AM

Quote from: bringdownthezog on November 29, 2018, 10:49:02 AM
This puny F6FLT thinks he knows energy transfer and Tesla!!!!! The scam of the century!!!

Of course I know. All Tesla's patents concerning electricity are based on conventional electromagnetism, they are perfectly understood today and were quickly understood even in Tesla's time when it was new. His inventiveness was really great, he was a genious of invention, but everyone with an engineering background as Tesla had, understands his work.

He failed in energy transfer because beyond short distances of the order of wavelength, coupling between transmitter and receiver is not sufficient, there are also many losses in surrounding conductors such as earth, and increasing the wavelength is not mechanically possible because it involves also increasing the dimensions of the radiating elements in proportion, to keep the same efficiency. He was a much better engineer than a physicist.

Unlike Tesla, Bearden is as useless in engineering as he is in physics. His "MEG" is of a confusing stupidity, he denies the principles of field superposition in parametric configuration, and therefore, no one has ever been able to produce any MEG that works.

It's funny how many people have made Tesla their god of electricity. Unlike Tesla, who studied at the Austrian Polytechnic in Graz and passed more exams than necessary, they have not done any academic study, they understand almost nothing about electrical engineering, they believe they are facing great mysteries and secrets, and they tempt to explain them with magic thinking, such as prehistoric men who would be shown a smartphone. ::) These guys are an insult to Tesla's memory.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: partzman on November 30, 2018, 10:27:10 AM

Quote from: F6FLT on November 30, 2018, 08:59:53 AM

Unlike Tesla, Bearden is as useless in engineering as he is in physics. His "MEG" is of a confusing stupidity, he denies the principles of field superposition in parametric configuration, and therefore, no one has ever been able to produce any MEG that works.

I have to disagree here. Back when the MEG was first introduced, I talked with Bearden and members of his team as an interested replicator. I found them quite knowledgeable and willing to discuss the device to a point, but due to patent applications at that time, certain info was not discussed. Anyway, I proceeded to build a MEG like arrangement which did produce excess energy.

My device was based on a pair of AMCC-320 amorphous "C" cores, used MOV's for loads, and had a rather modest PM structure for core bias. Removal of the PM structure did affect the gain of the device.

The secondaries were wound on the cores in a directional manner in that all layers were wound in the same direction with a single wire returning to the start position of the next layer. This cuts the voltage stress in half between layers as compared to normal layer winding and was done to minimize breakdown in the secondaries due to the high resonant peak AC voltages.

Simultaneous input and output measurements were taken with a Voltech PM3000 3-phase power analyzer with the MEG device operating at ~30kHz. Due to the MOV loads, the output voltage and current waveforms were highly non-linear and reactive. The measurement of these waveforms was easily handled by the PM3000 which did indicate a COP>1.

I ran many tests with this MEG variant using various loads, etc, until the secondaries finally broke down and I never felt the need to rebuild it as I had the info I was seeking. BTW, it was very difficult and time consuming to wind the secondaries.

Pm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 30, 2018, 10:39:14 AM

Quote from: memoryman on November 29, 2018, 02:15:10 PM
Belief is based on evidence. Faith does not require evidence.
Bearden et al do not supply evidence.

if we need an evidence ... why have faith ?
If we loose faith, the SPIKE automatically shut down

most important is following SPIKE of thought and
the SPIKE take unidirectional road straight in ...

oh ... my English ... why i get SPIKE everyday here

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on November 30, 2018, 11:06:24 AM

Quote from: partzman on November 30, 2018, 10:27:10 AM
I have to disagree here. Back when the MEG was first introduced, I talked with Bearden and members of his team as an interested replicator. I found them quite knowledgeable and willing to discuss the device to a point, but due to patent applications at that time, certain info was not discussed. Anyway, I proceeded to build a MEG like arrangement which did produce excess energy.

My device was based on a pair of AMCC-320 amorphous "C" cores, used MOV's for loads, and had a rather modest PM structure for core bias. Removal of the PM structure did affect the gain of the device.

The secondaries were wound on the cores in a directional manner in that all layers were wound in the same direction with a single wire returning to the start position of the next layer. This cuts the voltage stress in half between layers as compared to normal layer winding and was done to minimize breakdown in the secondaries due to the high resonant peak AC voltages.

Simultaneous input and output measurements were taken with a Voltech PM3000 3-phase power analyzer with the MEG device operating at ~30kHz. Due to the MOV loads, the output voltage and current waveforms were highly non-linear and reactive. The measurement of these waveforms was easily handled by the PM3000 which did indicate a COP>1.

I ran many tests with this MEG variant using various loads, etc, until the secondaries finally broke down and I never felt the need to rebuild it as I had the info I was seeking. BTW, it was very difficult and time consuming to wind the secondaries.

Pm

This was in 1995ish ? My guess. The PM was opposing the flux or aligned with the flux ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: memoryman on November 30, 2018, 11:06:45 AM

Without evidence, faith is blind. Maybe YOU enjoy being blind; most don't. Having faith means you accept everything as presented and doing so leaves you open to use by fraudsters, conman, faith healers etc.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: partzman on November 30, 2018, 11:30:48 AM

Quote from: bringdownthezog on November 30, 2018, 11:06:24 AM
This was in 1995ish ? My guess. The PM was opposing the flux or aligned with the flux ?

Yes, somewhere around that time.

Regarding the PM flux in the cores, it was both opposing and aiding the primary/secondary flux dependent on the primary drive configurations and timing. It was also found that the majority of the PM flux did not penetrate deeply into the amorphous cores as one might think but rather remained close to the inner surface the PMs were in contact with.

Pm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on November 30, 2018, 11:32:01 AM

Thanks Pm.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 30, 2018, 04:30:49 PM

uhhhh .... Titus quote: To become different make some difference. lol ;D

i don't have faith to make difference .... unconsciously
then i ask ... How come it's so?

Matthew 21:22
Mark 11:24

PROF: CLASS DID YOU SEE GOD?
CLASS: NO SIR!
PROF: DID YOU TOUCH IT?
CLASS: NO SIR!
PROF: SEE THERE IS NO GOD!
TEETSLA: PROF DID YOU SEE YOUR BRAIN?
PROF: NO TEETS!
TEETSLA : DID YOU TOUCH IT PROF?
PROF: NO TEETS!!
TEETSLA: SEE CLASSMATE OUR PROFESSOR DOESN'T HAVE A BRAIN LETS GO HOME!

so simply & tricky ...... little twist from dis-belief to .........
hard to explain
https://patents.google.com/patent/US577670A/en
uhhhh >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on November 30, 2018, 05:07:09 PM

Hopi prophecy. I wish it could work for us without tribulation....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 30, 2018, 05:50:51 PM

Quote from: forest on November 30, 2018, 05:07:09 PM
Hopi prophecy. I wish it could work for us without tribulation....

don.t tell my funny English ... forest gump :D
i get spike here ... every week
never follow me ... am i NUT ? ;)
i follow my intuit .. only

One time tesla says that voltage and current grows at the same time IN A CERTAIN CONDITION ::) :o ??? :-\
Then hows that happen? >:( :'( :P
ok!
Just one core as SM, hubbard deed, you really need three coils but the two are one and the secondary are included in the two and its power is the product of the two combine coils, we can call them as the driving coils and considered three primaries and from them we can get lots of energy, we can now have many second secondaries. 8) And That is the truth!

https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/1800/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: memoryman on November 30, 2018, 07:36:49 PM

"Matthew 21:22
Mark 11:24"
Anyone quoting the bible or a similar book does so without a clue of what science is.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on December 01, 2018, 09:35:09 AM

MM,

It appears you are unaware of the fact that almost every field of scientific study was originally started by men and women who believed in a creator. Their study was started because they wanted to learn more about this amazing world the creator created. And more and more evidence shows this world was created by design and not by accident.

A recent study done on the DNA of over 100,000 animals showed that they all came into existence at almost the exact same time. And the study also found that the DNA clearly showed genetic boundaries between the species. There is no SCIENTIFIC evidence whatsoever that evolution happened. The DNA also showed that the age of the animal species also was the same age as the human race. All this study was written up in a SCIENTIFIC journal. Of course you will not hear about any of this on the main stream media. And this is only one of the many things recently discovered that support the Bible.

Just the fact that the nation of Israel is back in existence after almost 2000 years is proof that the Bible is true. The old testament prophets correctly predicted over 2500 years ago that the nation of Israel would be destroyed and the people scattered all over the world. They also predicted the nation of Israel would become a nation again with the members of the Jewish race once again coming back to the Promised Land. And all that has happened just as the old testament prophets said it would.

You have told me over and over again I need to have an open mind. Maybe you should try the same thing and do some research on your own instead of listening to the crap put out by the main stream media.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: memoryman on December 01, 2018, 10:14:57 AM

"It appears you are unaware of the fact that almost every field of scientific study was originally started by men and women who believed in a creator. Their study was started because they wanted to learn more about this amazing world the creator created. And more and more evidence shows this world was created by design and not by accident." Doing science using the scientific method has nothing to do with a baseless belief in a creator. Scientists want to discover the TRUTH about the universe; NOT just claims of imaginary beings.

"All this study was written up in a SCIENTIFIC journal. Of course you will not hear about any of this on the main stream media. And this is only one of the many things recently discovered that support the Bible." Most likely (since you did not provide a source) a pseudo-scientific CREATIONIST magazine.

A prophecy without specifics (time, place, form) is meaningless.

I am actually engaged in real science, including gravity/inertia control.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on December 01, 2018, 11:04:50 AM

The article about the DNA was posted to the website www.physics.org. It was posted sometime in late May if I recall correctly. The article was written by Marlowe Hood. The study involved over 5 million gene snapshots or "DNA barcodes" taken from more than 100,000 animals. These DNA barcodes came from the GenBank database which is managed by the US government. The study was done by Mark Stoeckle of the Rockefeller University in New York and David Thaler of the University of Basel in Switzerland. The website where this was posted is clearly pro evolution and is still are pushing the myth of evolution even after this study was posted there.

The prophecy about Israel clearly has a place and form. Just because the exact time was not predicted doesn't mean it was not a true prediction. It did come true. No other nation has even been totally wiped out and then come back to reclaim their homeland. NEVER! But God's prophets said it would happen and it did.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: memoryman on December 01, 2018, 11:48:40 AM

" Just because the exact time was not predicted " NO time/date was predicted. Not even within 1,000 years. Therefore it does NOT qualify as a useful prediction.

I can 'predict' that 'a great disaster will destroy part of a continent'; so what?
This is exactly how astrology works; make vague 'predictions'.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on December 01, 2018, 01:47:03 PM

Memoryman I need you to shut the fuck up.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: memoryman on December 01, 2018, 01:53:40 PM

That is heartbreaking; request denied.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 01, 2018, 04:58:47 PM

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=John+Bedini+Hopi+Prophecy

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: citfta on December 02, 2018, 06:37:23 AM

Quote from: memoryman on December 01, 2018, 11:48:40 AM
" Just because the exact time was not predicted " NO time/date was predicted. Not even within 1,000 years. Therefore it does NOT qualify as a useful prediction.

I can 'predict' that 'a great disaster will destroy part of a continent'; so what?
This is exactly how astrology works; make vague 'predictions'.

Predicting that a natural occurrence will happen is easy. Now predict what nation will be reborn next. You nitpick at a Biblical prediction because it doesn't meet your criteria but I see you totally ignored the actual proven SCIENTIFIC data I presented to you. Your claim was that people that believed the Bible weren't being SCIENTIFIC. So explain why the DNA data supports the Bible and not the myth of evolution.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on December 02, 2018, 09:03:48 AM

Quote from: memoryman on December 01, 2018, 10:14:57 AM
"It appears you are unaware of the fact that almost every field of scientific study was originally started by men and women who believed in a creator...

At that time, religious conditioning was everywhere.
It was precisely when people realized that they could understand the laws of nature without going through God, that they were able to free themselves from their religious yoke and to create scientific knowledge. Galileo was one of the pioneers, and obviously the Catholic Church which had understood the danger of losing power over people's minds, fought him.

But in any case, even scientists with a religious mind have the intelligence to leave their faith in the cloakroom when they enter the lab. This is not the case for some believers here who continually mix their religious superstitions with scientific knowledge or experiments.
Religion+science=religion, not science, and religion=nothing operational. If new ideas could emerge from religious dogma, if incantations and prayers could create technology, it would have been known long ago!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on December 02, 2018, 09:32:04 AM

Religion should die naturally for our own good. ;)
All of religion ... even my religion ;D
Me .. must come back to Spirituality : personal relationship with the One Aether
its the only way .. we stop ourself crack the planet
the only road IS Luke 9:23

the MAINSTREAM ALWAYS AGAINST The Aether One till end
Matthew 5:10

why u call me nuts ... buddy ?
is my pink English .. so sexy for you ;D
http://www.fight-4-truth.com/

we should rename this thread : ENERGY AMPLIFICATION PREDICTION

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: memoryman on December 02, 2018, 10:02:23 AM

F6FLT: well said.

"Predicting that a natural occurrence will happen is easy." Even Nostradamus was a better 'predictor' than the bible.
Any vague, open-ended 'prediction' is easy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 02, 2018, 10:42:24 PM

I have an idea...

An open ended series bifilar coil can be driven into a high level open ended resonant state, even if only connected to the driver by just one of the open ends, or by magnetic induction.

If we look at the open ended series connected bifi coil say while driven by a magnetic input, we should be content with believing that there is a charge bouncing back and forth within the series connected bifi coil at its resonant freq. compressing electrons at one end of the windings while decompressing electrons at the other end and likewise in the other direction during oscillating function of the bifi coil. So it got me to thinking, and this will be an upcoming experiment, that with all the compressing and decompressing at the ends of the coil, that at the series connection of the bifi(open ended) that it is at this point that there would be the most current flow, back and forth, during the resonant oscillations.

So maybe if there were a very low resistance primary of a transformer that had a secondary that was heavily loaded, this loading may not disturb the bifi oscillations in the open ended bifi. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunityresearch.com%2FSmileys%2FAlive%2Fhuh.gif&hash=e06800da39b4246a276b208764a3188f7d6500e1) (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunityresearch.com%2FSmileys%2FAlive%2Fwink.gif&hash=7a67d6696217e03daac268b58edf5fa3001fc6dc) (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunityresearch.com%2FSmileys%2FAlive%2Fafro.gif&hash=0111f3cd5e5c113038532d8e164bdc4e703a4fa2)

As long as the series connection where we placed our load, whether it be a low ohm resistor or a heavily loaded transformer that the primary will take in as much input as it is given without damping the oscillations, then we may have something that could be very good here.

My first tests will be with resistances at the series juncture to see if there is the currents that Im thinking are there, then move on to introducing a transformer as suggested.

What do you think? (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunityresearch.com%2FSmileys%2FAlive%2Fsmiley.gif&hash=600b005617aee0a408339ea3bf501c95d98d87bd)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 03, 2018, 02:08:19 PM

Mags

Picture please :-)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 04, 2018, 07:28:27 PM

Hey Forest
On the left is say a driver coil pulsed at the resonant freq of the bifi. The 2 coils to the right are the bifi coils, open ended and the resistor is in place between the series connection of the bifi coil. The resonant freq will most likely change with whatever we put between the series connection, so the driver would have to be adjusted to compensate. ;) will run this test this weekend.
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on December 05, 2018, 08:14:46 AM

Quote from: partzman on November 30, 2018, 10:27:10 AM
I have to disagree here. Back when the MEG was first introduced, I talked with Bearden and members of his team as an interested replicator. I found them quite knowledgeable and willing to discuss the device to a point, but due to patent applications at that time, certain info was not discussed. Anyway, I proceeded to build a MEG like arrangement which did produce excess energy.
...
The measurement of these waveforms was easily handled by the PM3000 which did indicate a COP>1.
I ran many tests with this MEG variant using various loads, etc, until the secondaries finally broke down and I never felt the need to rebuild it as I had the info I was seeking.
...

Bearden acts like a guru preaching the good word of free energy. There is no surprise to have in front of his behavior, all the gurus are kind and cooperative, question of proselytism to increase their notoriety and the number of their followers.

Your MEG worked, it provided more out energy than in, indisputable measurements showed it, but after it was broken, your confidence in its operation was so high and this invention of free energy was so insignificant, that you moved on to something else... ;D ::)

Sorry, I'm not a so naive person to the point of attaching the slightest confidence in this story of a past working MEG. We all know that it would be an extraordinary industrial revolution, motivating for everyone. And despite this fact, and that the MEG has been patented for 16 years, no operational product has ever been produced, including from Bearden himself.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: partzman on December 05, 2018, 10:20:51 AM

Quote from: F6FLT on December 05, 2018, 08:14:46 AM
Bearden acts like a guru preaching the good word of free energy. There is no surprise to have in front of his behavior, all the gurus are kind and cooperative, question of proselytism to increase their notoriety and the number of their followers.

Your MEG worked, it provided more out energy than in, indisputable measurements showed it, but after it was broken, your confidence in its operation was so high and this invention of free energy was so insignificant, that you moved on to something else... ;D ::)

Sorry, I'm not a so naive person to the point of attaching the slightest confidence in this story of a past working MEG. We all know that it would be an extraordinary industrial revolution, motivating for everyone. And despite this fact, and that the MEG has been patented for 16 years, no operational product has ever been produced, including from Bearden himself.

Your lack of understanding comes from the fact that you did not build nor test this exact device nor have you considered it's usefulness. So, instead of belittling me and my decision, you are certainly capable of giving just one example of how this particular design could be implemented to promote an "extraordinary industrial revolution". If you can accomplish this, I will gladly rebuild it!

But first, one must analyze and determine the source of gain. Is it due to parametric inductance change in the secondaries, parametric capacitance and/or resistance change in the MOVs, corona in the secondaries, complex transmission line characteristics of the secondaries, etc, or some combination of the above? I spent many months trying to come up with the answers, so good luck.

Also, the operation of this device did not resemble Bearden's MEG nor did I ever claim it to, only the physical appearance was similar.

Pm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on December 05, 2018, 10:21:55 AM

Quote from: F6FLT on December 05, 2018, 08:14:46 AM
Bearden acts like a guru preaching the good word of free energy. There is no surprise to have in front of his behavior, all the gurus are kind and cooperative, question of proselytism to increase their notoriety and the number of their followers.

Your MEG worked, it provided more out energy than in, indisputable measurements showed it, but after it was broken, your confidence in its operation was so high and this invention of free energy was so insignificant, that you moved on to something else... ;D ::)

Sorry, I'm not a so naive person to the point of attaching the slightest confidence in this story of a past working MEG. We all know that it would be an extraordinary industrial revolution, motivating for everyone. And despite this fact, and that the MEG has been patented for 16 years, no operational product has ever been produced, including from Bearden himself.

The MEG has been proven plenty of times. Only you have excuses and lack of understanding.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on December 05, 2018, 11:46:37 AM

https://overunity.com/17986/current-amplifier-as-key-to-the-free-energy/msg526593/#new
https://yadi.sk/d/dH-xE-qW3HFWDX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smPr7CFHGhw&feature=youtu.be
http://mazeto.net/index.php/topic,10002.msg96812/topicseen.html#msg96812

thanks to x_name41 :o :D
it's hard to hear the voice within consistenly and walk on it ... but i always try to trust it first
there's real fight between my carnal mind and the voice.

sorry 4 everything ...buddy

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on December 06, 2018, 12:51:13 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on September 02, 2018, 02:15:06 PM
For the good of all mankind ;D ;D ;D 8)

Tito always said that it is ignition coil with extra coil :-X

Eight times as great :o :o :o

]

Always said its the extra coil. Eight times as great.

https://ibb.co/jRZsnq

PS: I cant post this circuit on this site no matter how much I try. You are free to try yourself! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on December 07, 2018, 04:00:22 AM

Quote from: partzman on December 05, 2018, 10:20:51 AM
Your lack of understanding comes from the fact that you did not build nor test this exact device nor have you considered it's usefulness...

I have built and tested this device, and I am not alone. It doesn't work, and I understand perfectly why it doesn't work.
If yours works, show it to us and have it tested by an independent team.

"lack of understanding"! ::) ;D It is becoming painful, all those people who believe and claim that this flawed thing work, who give pretentious and insulting lessons from their ignorance, without ever being able in the 16 years since the patent was filed, to present us with a device that works! This is ridiculous. Stop wasting our time. I'm not a gullible religious believer.

Do I have to add that work must be produced to make a parametric change that allows to get extra-energy, and that therefore there is no energy gain in the process? Of course, it's not necessary, these guys are not here to understand but to constantly repeat their acts of faith.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on December 07, 2018, 04:00:45 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on December 07, 2018, 09:15:12 AM

Quote from: F6FLT on December 07, 2018, 04:00:22 AM
I have built and tested this device, and I am not alone. It doesn't work, and I understand perfectly why it doesn't work.
If yours works, show it to us and have it tested by an independent team.

"lack of understanding"! ::) ;D It is becoming painful, all those people who believe and claim that this flawed thing work, who give pretentious and insulting lessons from their ignorance, without ever being able in the 16 years since the patent was filed, to present us with a device that works! This is ridiculous. Stop wasting our time. I'm not a gullible religious believer.

Do I have to add that work must be produced to make a parametric change that allows to get extra-energy, and that therefore there is no energy gain in the process? Of course, it's not necessary, these guys are not here to understand but to constantly repeat their acts of faith.

You tell us why its not working. We might as well enjoy your imaginary experiments. And where did you source this core? Did you buy it from a store?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: partzman on December 07, 2018, 11:21:02 AM

Quote from: F6FLT on December 07, 2018, 04:00:22 AM
I have built and tested this device, and I am not alone. It doesn't work, and I understand perfectly why it doesn't work.
If yours works, show it to us and have it tested by an independent team.

"lack of understanding"! ::) ;D It is becoming painful, all those people who believe and claim that this flawed thing work, who give pretentious and insulting lessons from their ignorance, without ever being able in the 16 years since the patent was filed, to present us with a device that works! This is ridiculous. Stop wasting our time. I'm not a gullible religious believer.

Do I have to add that work must be produced to make a parametric change that allows to get extra-energy, and that therefore there is no energy gain in the process? Of course, it's not necessary, these guys are not here to understand but to constantly repeat their acts of faith.

I have a suggestion. Why not use your previous MEG setup and test it with MOV loads. I've been searching thru my old files and logs and have not yet found my notes from that period but I did find that JLN's website did have some info that I posted there years ago. This can be found at-

http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/megnot01.htm

Here you will find the exact MOVs I used and some of my thots and opinions on the device. As I recall, I did attempt to loop the device in many configurations without success and since then I've learned that because a device exhibits a COP>1 from a measurement standpoint, does not mean a stand alone "generator" can be built.

Pm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 07, 2018, 05:21:38 PM

You know why??? ::) ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: bringdownthezog on December 06, 2018, 12:51:13 PM
]

Always said its the extra coil. Eight times as great.

https://ibb.co/jRZsnq

PS: I cant post this circuit on this site no matter how much I try. You are free to try yourself! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on December 07, 2018, 09:19:14 PM

Hmm. been thinking this week as to what I could come up with as variations of bifi coils that could avoid the issue of resistance....
If we want more capacitance, then we need more turns, thus more resistance. So Ive been, Hmmmm..
lets say we have a bifi coil that is 1H and a capacitance of 15uf. Just an example... It would ring about 41hz...
Now, if we put another identical bifi in parallel, we should double our capacitance!!!!! But we reduce inductance by what, Half?

So I went to Circuit sim to look at some things....
I used the default circuit which has a 1H inductor with a 15uf cap which rings at 41hz. Then I added another 1H coil in parallel with the original, with a switch to switch out the second inductor when needed. With the second coil switch on the oscillation went to 58hz Hmmm, if the induction was halved, thats not a crazy increase. Might have thought it to be more like 82hz, like 41x2. But there is one thing to change which is the 15uf cap to 30 uf. Now we are back to our original 41hz!!! This I think is a great thing!!! More bifi coils in parallel, same resonant freq but we halve the resistance with every doubling of bifi coils. Now there is another aspect that will have to be tried.....
Say we have 8 bifi coils in parallel connection, would there be any advantages to having the coils set in different positions to one another, such as in close proximity, say inline, or to space them away from each other.

Gotta git. got more on this. Just let the possibilities of this sink in a bit. ;)
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ayeaye on December 07, 2018, 09:24:42 PM

Quote from: bringdownthezog on December 07, 2018, 09:15:12 AM
You tell us why its not working. We might as well enjoy your imaginary experiments.

F6FLT saying that he built something, usually means that he tried to simulate something remotely similar, but it failed. In spite his criticism of others may sometimes be right, he excessively used to condemn others, and he is apparently stranger to the scientific rigor what concerns doing experiments.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on December 08, 2018, 02:34:11 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on December 07, 2018, 05:21:38 PM
You know why??? ::) ;D ;D ;D

Tito and Leonelogb. Are you using high side switching ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on December 08, 2018, 04:43:54 AM

Quote from: bringdownthezog on December 08, 2018, 02:34:11 AM
Tito and Leonelogb. Are you using high side switching ?

For sure a high side switch will fit better to your needs on this subject, but again it depends on what you are trying to accomblish.

My personal opinion on Tom Bearden.
His transforrmer as a stand alone unit, will never give something more than a simple conventional transformer. As F6FLT said it needs energy to do parametric changes and this is really NOT "free" to do it. I am not saying that Bearden is a fraud. He just protects his work as any logical researcher who gave his arm and leg to discover something of a value. Don't seek his secret on his drawings or else you are doomed to repeat again and again the same and wrong approach to the subject. The same applies to all of the researchers the last 100 years who applied a patent for a "free" energy device. Their secret is never showed on papers or else everyone now would have a maschine of this kind. Experimenting with your own ideas and gaining personal experience is the only way out..

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on December 08, 2018, 05:58:21 AM

Quote from: ayeaye on December 07, 2018, 09:24:42 PM
F6FLT saying that he built something, usually means that he tried to simulate something...

Please stop your defaming lies.
We are here to discuss about technology, not about people.
« The elite minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, the mediocre minds discuss people. »
Jules Romains

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on December 08, 2018, 06:04:03 AM

Quote from: bringdownthezog on December 07, 2018, 09:15:12 AM
You tell us why its not working. We might as well enjoy your imaginary experiments. And where did you source this core? Did you buy it from a store?

I said it hundred of times. You can't modulate a flux. A flux should be understood as looped field lines and the "modulation", when you increase/decrease the source field, as an increase/decrease of the number of field lines.
A field from a "switching" coil simply add to the field supposed to be switched, they don't multiply. This is always true, you just have to take into account the instantaneous values of the fields but also of the permeability if it's not constant. It means that the field of the switching coil and the output coil is common, so the coils act on one each other as in any transformer (but here with a low coefficient of mutual induction) and that the change of permeability needs energy. A parametric change consumes energy when it allows for extra-energy in the system, the additional energy being that one that we put for the parametric change (same effect when we try to change a capacity storing a charge, to increase its energy according to W=1/2 * Q²/C).

My experiments are not imaginary, see the photo of a part of my modest laboratory today, yes it is a mess, I don't have time to clean up. ;D
An experiment is done to test an idea, and the results of the experiment must help to clarify the idea, or to validate it, or to reject it. If you have no idea, or if you don't have the competence to understand both the physics underlying your idea and the results of your observations, you're not doing experiments but anything to please yourself, it's just looking at pretty slopes on an oscilloscope while jumping like a young goatee and screaming, I'll have it, I have it, I got it, the free energy is there!!! ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: partzman on December 08, 2018, 10:59:33 AM

Quote from: F6FLT on December 08, 2018, 06:04:03 AM

A parametric change consumes energy when it allows for extra-energy in the system, the additional energy being that one that we put for the parametric change (same effect when we try to change a capacity storing a charge, to increase its energy according to W=1/2 * Q²/C).

I will agree here as all my tests of circuits using parametric inductance and capacitance have been conservative up to this point in time. However, Gorchilin claims gains are possible with parametric inductance using partial cycles. See-

http://gorchilin.com/articles/energy/RLC_5?lang=en

Unfortunately my calculus skills are lacking so I'm unable to determine if his theory is correct and I haven't attempted any type of build.

I'm curious to know if you have ever considered the TPU by Steven Marks?

Pm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on December 08, 2018, 11:19:24 AM

Quote from: F6FLT on December 08, 2018, 06:04:03 AM
I said it hundred of times. You can't modulate a flux. A flux should be understood as looped field lines and the "modulation", when you increase/decrease the source field, as an increase/decrease of the number of field lines.
A field from a "switching" coil simply add to the field supposed to be switched, they don't multiply. This is always true, you just have to take into account the instantaneous values of the fields but also of the permeability if it's not constant. It means that the field of the switching coil and the output coil is common, so the coils act on one each other as in any transformer (but here with a low coefficient of mutual induction) and that the change of permeability needs energy. A parametric change consumes energy when it allows for extra-energy in the system, the additional energy being that one that we put for the parametric change (same effect when we try to change a capacity storing a charge, to increase its energy according to W=1/2 * Q²/C).

My experiments are not imaginary, see the photo of a part of my modest laboratory today, yes it is a mess, I don't have time to clean up. ;D
An experiment is done to test an idea, and the results of the experiment must help to clarify the idea, or to validate it, or to reject it. If you have no idea, or if you don't have the competence to understand both the physics underlying your idea and the results of your observations, you're not doing experiments but anything to please yourself, it's just looking at pretty slopes on an oscilloscope while jumping like a young goatee and screaming, I'll have it, I have it, I got it, the free energy is there!!! ::)

Not MEG. This is just piss pond. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on December 08, 2018, 12:02:38 PM

Quote from: Jeg on December 08, 2018, 04:43:54 AM
For sure a high side switch will fit better to your needs on this subject, but again it depends on what you are trying to accomblish.

My personal opinion on Tom Bearden.
His transforrmer as a stand alone unit, will never give something more than a simple conventional transformer. As F6FLT said it needs energy to do parametric changes and this is really NOT "free" to do it. I am not saying that Bearden is a fraud. He just protects his work as any logical researcher who gave his arm and leg to discover something of a value. Don't seek his secret on his drawings or else you are doomed to repeat again and again the same and wrong approach to the subject. The same applies to all of the researchers the last 100 years who applied a patent for a "free" energy device. Their secret is never showed on papers or else everyone now would have a maschine of this kind. Experimenting with your own ideas and gaining personal experience is the only way out..

Regards

Dont back peddle Jeg. Words are not enough to discredit Bearden. You have nothing on Bearden. Nought, nil, nada, nothing, zero, zilch and zip.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 08, 2018, 12:04:35 PM

High side switch is the only way for Tom Bearden method :-) which is I believe Titot original method which is what I'm working on.... ;-) In 2005 I found other method but was unable to progress because it require careful and precise experimenting with HV and I was not experienced to do so and still have no tools. It's a matter to skin the cat - various methods exists to skin the ether ;-)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 08, 2018, 04:45:02 PM

By just easily saying tom bearden's meg won't work.
My friend you are not thinking ;D
You think his 30 years research just give it to you as simple as that! ? >:( :o ???
Of course there is a small part there he is not disscussing to the audience. Got it?
The keys are "plenum, vacuum ,doping, dipole"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ayeaye on December 08, 2018, 04:47:00 PM

Quote from: F6FLT on December 08, 2018, 05:58:21 AM
« The elite minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, the mediocre minds discuss people. »

I'm sorry but, the people here refuse to take your ideas instead of experiments. Maybe they did if you did belong to the category of elite minds, which you evidently think you are, but unfortunately you are very far from it, and evidently are not capable of analytical thinking, which certainly doesn't enable you to be an elite mind and come up with any valuable ideas.

My advice to you, good advice, believe me, is to learn rhetoric. Did you ever do that, do you even know what it is? Once they taught it in schools, for thousands of years, in ancient Greece and even long before. Not any more, as they don't want people to learn to think. This may teach you analytical thinking, why not to learn what you don't know?

You show your laboratory as if it proves your very high level or something. You have great tools, but you yourself are not great. I have only an old analog oscilloscope. But what's the use of your laboratory as you don't use it? This here is not the first time when you replaced experiments with your ideas and arbitrary conclusions. With my experiment too, you just found that LTspice has a bifilar coil model, talked about like you made a discovery in science. Without critically analyzing it at all, which you evidently cannot as you lack critical thinking.

There are many kind of bifilar coil models, some are just two coupled coils with a capacitor between the terminals of two coils. Which i suspect the LTspice model is, unless shown that it is anything more sophisticated. Capacitor between terminals of the coils is *not* the same as capacitor connecting the middles of the coils, not to talk many such capacitors. Not to talk that when researching overunity, we are after effects that the conventional equations may not include, an example if you like was the Marinov generator. But you wrote some arbitrary musings based on casually trying the LTSpice bifilar coil model, and replaced them for experiments, you didn't do experiments.

Thus evidently even the most expensive laboratory equipment is useless when it is used by a person with a poor mental capability who also lacks scientific rigor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on December 08, 2018, 04:56:48 PM

Quote from: bringdownthezog on December 08, 2018, 11:19:24 AM
Not MEG. This is just piss pond. ;D

I am very impressed by your argument. Obviously, Maxwell is wrong. I haven't seen such a solid theory since the Hollow Earth theory.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on December 08, 2018, 05:00:57 PM

Quote from: partzman on December 08, 2018, 10:59:33 AM
I will agree here as all my tests of circuits using parametric inductance and capacitance have been conservative up to this point in time. However, Gorchilin claims gains are possible with parametric inductance using partial cycles. See-

http://gorchilin.com/articles/energy/RLC_5?lang=en

Unfortunately my calculus skills are lacking so I'm unable to determine if his theory is correct and I haven't attempted any type of build.

I'm curious to know if you have ever considered the TPU by Steven Marks?

Pm

Hi Partzman,

I don't like math but Gorchilin's equations are not too hard.
The voltage at the inductance terminals is usually noted (1) UL=-L.dI(t)/dt when L is constant.
Here Gorchilin considers that L depends on I, so he writes :
UL=L(I) It "It" with a dot above means the time derivative dI/dt, and t an index because I is time dependent, so we retrieve the right equation (1) with L depending on I, in occidental notation: UL=L(i).dI(t)/dt (Gorchilin doesn't care the sign which normally is negative. I suppose that he want to calculate the energy which is proportionnal to UL² so the sign would not be important).

But when L is not constant, equation (1) is false. We can't just replace L by L(I). When L is not constant and depends on I which depends on t, then L depends also on t and we have :
UL=d(LI)/dt = L(t).dI(t)/dt + I(t).dL(t)/dt (see here (https://books.google.fr/books?id=6to4DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA197&dq=d(LI)/dt+%3D+L.dI(t)/dt+%2B+I(t).dL(t)/dt+"current"))

Gorchilin makes the same mistake with the capacitor, using a voltage dependent capacitor C(U) so he writes UC=C(U)dU(t)/dt, instead of :
UC=d(CU)/dt = C(t)dU/dt + U(t)dC/dt

However I'm not totally sure that his method couldn't fit the traditional method, I think he's wrong but it's to be verified, but not necessary because there is a much obvious error after that.

He has an integral on U for the capacitor, an integral on I for the inductance, and an integral on t for the resistor.
Now the worst : he sums the three energy integrals as they were independent, instead of summing first (UC+UL+UR)I(t) so that the sign of UL becomes critical, and integrating on t after, to get the total energy and compare it to the integral of U(t)I(t) of the generator. So I'm not surprised he can find OU!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 08, 2018, 08:15:18 PM

Tito L. Oracion :-* Did you see my post? how many primaries and secondaries more I need ::) ::) Two? ;D ;D ;D 8)

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 28, 2018, 05:33:07 AM

No! :o but multiple primaries and multiple secondaries in the legs, these legs are primaries and secondaries ok. :)
its up to us then if what we want to do to the secondaries, if we want parallel or serie, thats basic ok. :)
and for me its not the best design though. :( sorry bud. :(

@ all
i cannot be here always anymore, cause i'm busy. sorry. cannot reply more.

remember: the way to the truth is don't kill the dipole. :) 8)
how to do that?: well just make a strong charge separator. thats it. ;)
OF COURSE: THE MANY THE BETTER. 8)

bye everyone
God bless and GOODBYE AGAIN ;D
ETIOTS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on December 08, 2018, 10:03:17 PM

The best energy amplification is Mr Skinner gravity machine.
So simple yet nobody have replicated it as yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEat-8zOjlE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on December 08, 2018, 10:06:25 PM

Quote from: F6FLT on December 08, 2018, 04:56:48 PM
I am very impressed by your argument. Obviously, Maxwell is wrong. I haven't seen such a solid theory since the Hollow Earth theory.

Imaginary MEG. Maxwell is not Bearden.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on December 09, 2018, 01:45:11 AM

Quote from: densama on December 05, 2018, 11:46:37 AM
https://overunity.com/17986/current-amplifier-as-key-to-the-free-energy/msg526593/#new
https://yadi.sk/d/dH-xE-qW3HFWDX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smPr7CFHGhw&feature=youtu.be
http://mazeto.net/index.php/topic,10002.msg96812/topicseen.html#msg96812

thanks to x_name41 :o :D
it's hard to hear the voice within consistenly and walk on it ... but i always try to trust it first
there's real fight between my carnal mind and the voice.

sorry 4 everything ...buddy

Fabulous. Thanks for the update. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on December 09, 2018, 03:09:47 AM

Quote from: F6FLT on December 08, 2018, 06:04:03 AM

...see the photo of a part of my modest laboratory today, yes it is a mess, I don't have time to clean up. ;D

I find it very clean and organized. Well done. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on December 09, 2018, 03:46:05 AM

Quote from: bringdownthezog on December 08, 2018, 12:02:38 PM
Words are not enough to discredit Bearden. You have nothing on Bearden.

It would be nice if you read more carefully my post. :o
As i said Bearden has his secret very well protected. If you think that by his transformer alone you are going to make a "free" energy maschine then please...the stage is yours!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 09, 2018, 04:18:21 AM

Forget MEG, look at Bearden Final Secret of Free energy

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: F6FLT on December 09, 2018, 06:31:43 AM

Quote from: partzman on December 08, 2018, 10:59:33 AM
...
I'm curious to know if you have ever considered the TPU by Steven Marks?

Pm

You are right that the TPU can be linked to our discussion on (pseudo) flux switching/modulation.
I considered it but did not test it for two reasons:
- competent people have tested it and failed.
- the explanations associated with its principle are inconsistent and do not include any new ideas.

Even if there was something behind it, which is unlikely, random experimentation without a guiding idea is futile.

Generally speaking, if after 2 or 3 years no one has noticed any particular effect, it is because there is none.
It is then time for scammers of free energy to make a buzz with lectures and books on the"secrets" of these kinds of device that they have never built and for which they invent crazy principles. Their goal is to make money with the naive or to draw attention to their egocentric person in need of recognition. And it works! The number of gullible people attracted by the word "secret" and who believe that they will become initiated into an open secret defying the laws of physics, it is amazing. ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: partzman on December 09, 2018, 10:50:00 AM

Quote from: F6FLT on December 08, 2018, 05:00:57 PM
Hi Partzman,

I don't like math but Gorchilin's equations are not too hard.
The voltage at the inductance terminals is usually noted (1) UL=-L.dI(t)/dt when L is constant.
Here Gorchilin considers that L depends on I, so he writes :
UL=L(I) It "It" with a dot above means the time derivative dI/dt, and t an index because I is time dependent, so we retrieve the right equation (1) with L depending on I, in occidental notation: UL=L(i).dI(t)/dt (Gorchilin doesn't care the sign which normally is negative. I suppose that he want to calculate the energy which is proportionnal to UL² so the sign would not be important).

But when L is not constant, equation (1) is false. We can't just replace L by L(I). When L is not constant and depends on I which depends on t, then L depends also on t and we have :
UL=d(LI)/dt = L(t).dI(t)/dt + I(t).dL(t)/dt (see here (https://books.google.fr/books?id=6to4DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA197&dq=d(LI)/dt+%3D+L.dI(t)/dt+%2B+I(t).dL(t)/dt+"current"))

Gorchilin makes the same mistake with the capacitor, using a voltage dependent capacitor C(U) so he writes UC=C(U)dU(t)/dt, instead of :
UC=d(CU)/dt = C(t)dU/dt + U(t)dC/dt

However I'm not totally sure that his method couldn't fit the traditional method, I think he's wrong but it's to be verified, but not necessary because there is a much obvious error after that.

He has an integral on U for the capacitor, an integral on I for the inductance, and an integral on t for the resistor.
Now the worst : he sums the three energy integrals as they were independent, instead of summing first (UC+UL+UR)I(t) so that the sign of UL becomes critical, and integrating on t after, to get the total energy and compare it to the integral of U(t)I(t) of the generator. So I'm not surprised he can find OU!

Hi F6FLT,

Thank you for taking the time to give your analysis of Gorchilin's math on his parametric inductance theory! You have saved myself and I'm sure others from unnecessary build time which would have proven fruitless.

Pm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ayeaye on December 09, 2018, 05:34:15 PM

I agree with that one, the Gorchilin's circuit looks like quite conventional, and when also using conventional equations to calculate it, the result possibly cannot be overunity, unless one did a mistake.

I don't think that the F6FLT's claim that he built MEG, is correct though. I don't think that MEG works and i have not found a single reason whatsoever to build it. But most likely his claim that he built it is wrong, he did not. Thus it is also true that he lacks scientific rigor.

I also don't agree with his claim that the bifilar coil model in LTspice can be used everywhere instead of the real coil. He also didn't properly analyze the model and doesn't seem to be capable of critical thinking that it requires.

I'm sick of the endless argument with him, he offends me all the time for no real reason. I proposed him to have this personal argument in private, as it doesn't interest anyone, but he didn't respond.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 11, 2018, 05:53:53 AM

End this madness - you cannot have overunity in equations or simulations - BECAUSE it is external field, just that easy ! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 11, 2018, 08:02:20 AM

forest, please tell you me how I have to calculate here_-------------------------------------------------------------------------_--------------------
http://rexresearch.com/flynn/flynn.htm (http://rexresearch.com/flynn/flynn.htmthis)"paradox" result
http://rexresearch.com/flynn/Ppfigure3.gif (http://rexresearch.com/flynn/Ppfigure3.gifcause) linear maths, pure addititon ,would give
"1721 units + 1091 units = 2812 units " and not "3845 units" as physical measureable result !----------------------------------------------------------------------------
The same "phenomen" measured by Jack Hilden-Brand by his R&D experiments. Open/closed parallel magnetic path :
70 emf units + 70 mmf units not 140 "linear" mmf units but dynamic 280 mmf units-----------------------------------------------------------------------------emf input: instead DC,AC power saving pulsed ( duty cycle) AC ="inverter process"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 11, 2018, 09:34:02 AM

Quote from: forest on December 11, 2018, 05:53:53 AM
End this madness - you cannot have overunity in equations or simulations - BECAUSE it is external field, just that easy ! >:(

I wholeheartedly agree.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bringdownthezog on December 12, 2018, 12:35:25 PM

This is real world application that was used for automobile ignition. It was also re-discovered by Stan Meyer to Split water into its component parts of hydrogen and oxygen and run a dune buggy. This is not a simulation.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ayeaye on December 14, 2018, 07:37:51 AM

Quote from: forest on December 11, 2018, 05:53:53 AM
End this madness - you cannot have overunity in equations or simulations - BECAUSE it is external field, just that easy ! >:(

Yes it comes from outside, this is what by definition overunity is, energy comes from an unknown source. Or if not completely unknown, then at least not well known. I think when there is overunity, most likely it comes from zero point energy, and most likely it is the power that keeps the electrons orbiting the atom. Like what Bedini said, that it comes from resistors or whatever, i don't think it makes sense. So it's really nonsense to try to find overunity, using equations that are made assuming unity, that is no energy coming from outside source.

Comes from zero point energy, and then goes back to there. Which likely always happens, like when we drop and object, and then rise it again to its previous height, the energy comes from zero point, and then an equal amount of energy goes back to zero point again. Zero point is nothing outlandish, it is always there, it is a part of which everything consists of.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 14, 2018, 03:54:31 PM

Zero point energy - stupid excuses for people who do not want to see clearly. Like a cargo cult![/font][/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ayeaye on December 14, 2018, 10:46:40 PM

Quote from: forest on December 14, 2018, 03:54:31 PM
Zero point energy - stupid excuses for people who do not want to see clearly. Like a cargo cult![/font][/size]

No, as i see it. Zero point energy is about what the space is. It is a dynamic 3D grid of nodes, or particles, that is in a constant movement, and forms a 3D space. It is that continuous movement that is zero point energy. It is inevitable, as everything consists of movement. By the law of vibration.

One may see it differently, such 3D grid has properties of liquid, and has properties of waves. Like wave is a propagation of a cyclic process, and most processes are cyclic, because of the law of rhythm. We should discuss such things under theory.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on December 15, 2018, 10:03:10 AM

I kinda hate people that give lectures and keep talking about zero point energy devices, because it is cool now. Like there is still movement in absolute zero, so there must be energy, so there must be devices that use this somehow. I think it is just a lack of a better term or actual solution. The same way as saying "I will just use an antenna to pick up the background radiation from the big Bang". Ok. show me the antenna and the device that puts out 5kW?

But I also do believe, that Moray had a working device. TK does not even let people see everything inside those boxes. Moray just removed one component and the rest of the machine he let everybody inspect. I am just wondering if the device used nuclear material in the valves or did he figure out a novel crystal radio. I know the output was HF, because he said it had to be run in "gravity mode" to power other than resistive loads

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ayeaye on December 15, 2018, 10:32:40 AM

Quote from: Belfior on December 15, 2018, 10:03:10 AM
I kinda hate people that give lectures and keep talking about zero point energy devices, because it is cool now. Like there is still movement in absolute zero, so there must be energy, so there must be devices that use this somehow. I think it is just a lack of a better term or actual solution. The same way as saying "I will just use an antenna to pick up the background radiation from the big Bang". Ok. show me the antenna and the device that puts out 5kW?

Yes it is true that overunity, if there is any, is energy coming from unknown source. We don't know that much about zero point either, so yes it is unknown source. Yet we know something, like the Casimir effect, between two plates there is less energy than outside, because there can be less waves between two plates, than outside of them. The same we may think, if we make things more organized, the energy at zero point should decrease, because then there are less possibilities left. Like when a field does work, causing a directional movement, this should decrease energy at zero point. Thus field does work, the energy at zero point decreases, this can be seen as energy coming from zero point. When we work against the field, we likely cause some disturbance, and this may cause the opposite, the energy at zero point increasing.

Thus you cannot say that when one talks about zero point, then this is just because one doesn't know where the energy may come from, and then says zero point, pretending some knowledge. It remains true that what exactly happens at zero point, remains largely unknown. Yet the reason why it's said is because of modeling and analytical thinking, there is some reason to say, not because of pretending to know or because it looks cool.

That there is movement at absolute zero, and this is the only reason why anyone may say that the energy comes from zero point or goes to zero point. No this is not right, this is not the only reason, something is omitted, and thus the conclusion is not exactly right. That there also is the logic, things being more organized, like having two parallel plates, decreases the energy at zero point, and vice versa, things becoming less organized, like removing the two parallel plates, increases the energy at zero point.

Who doesn't restrict oneself with only reading from pages of the textbooks, but also thinks oneself, goes a dangerous road, yes. Because he goes away from the safe paved road. One is not protected, whatever may happen, some always attack. This is what i always feel, it doesn't matter how well i think or how well i explain, they don't even listen, not to talk thinking about what i say. Instead they say, read what is written on these pages of the textbook, and see that this differs from what you say, right? With that they show their complete inability to understand. Who only reads from the pages of the textbook, goes an easy road, yes. and all is good. The only small thing is that he can never discover or invent anything, but this is not a big problem, when everything is really good.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on December 15, 2018, 12:02:31 PM

I also think that active suppression going on. I mean if you seek free energy then you must believe it exists. After all this time it is probably already in use and it coming out would the end of oil and other crap. So free energy automatically means there is suppression.

That is done by entities that make money on energy. That means unlimited resources to do so. That means all schools, textbooks and theories are tainted. Naturally our tech still works and there is always plausible deniability. Something is not told, something is told the wrong way, something is not researched at all and as a bonus they push out theory after theory of just theoretical crap to keep you busy. I mean you can create a theory, use math to prove it, but is doesn't mean it exists in reality.

Sure education is important and it saves a lot of time in your experiments, but if the secrets are hidden you cannot find them in any textbooks. Guru in sanskrit means a person who uses his intuition to ignite another persons intuition. Haven't seen much of those in the schools I went to... They were more like "This is how I was taught. I will teach you the same. You will learn this equation and you learn to create these machines, that you plug into the wall" so passing down the ignorance

Universities live on grant money and those grants are passed from energy companies to universities. You will get a research package, but that package tells you exactly what you can research and nothing else. So they pay you to invent a gasoline engine, that uses 10% less gasoline. Then they raise the gasoline price by 15%

I think education, intuition, accidental discoveries and unconventional heretic mind will lead to miracles. Like penicillin

Two easy Don Smith devices to test were the coil+core that goes through 2 cap plates and the one where plasma tube covered with a coil creates current. I am trying to use every method that comes to mind. I mean free energy is crazy! So why not even crazy methods to try to find it?

You do this until you get it self looped with a load. anything else is just a debate and hell even that will be a debate, since people always see wires everywhere and batteries under tables.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 15, 2018, 02:40:48 PM

Why I'm against the term "zero point energy" ? Because you have the reality here, around you ! It's the real field , real field force . It's called Earth magnetic field.
May the force be with you...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 15, 2018, 03:24:07 PM

There is no-where free energy but " free energy" ,Gibbs theorem conditionized.There is not a Celsius,Fahrenheit or Kelvin "Nullpunkt,Zero point" mentionized in quantum mechanics but the XYZ-SPACE-TIME -Null/Zero-Koordination/Coordination-Punkt/Point.-------------------------------------------------------
Understanding Casimir/Sparnay = the conditionized "free energy" in the XYZ-RAUM-ZEIT-Koordinationssystem.More about this : Herman Minkowski works," Father from the Quantenphysik", one of his students : Albert Einstein.The most Estates in our World are over-dept, not to speak about the " hidden debt".Clearly that these administrations do not want to loose this great mineral and electricity tax sum in their budget balance.For example Germany: the endconsumer are paying in average 25 Eurocents per KVAh, the average electricity production costs are, here the ministerium of economy numbers, in the mix 8 Eurocents per KVAh , actually the international electricity auctions of wind and solar energy plants are in the 3 to 2,5 Eurocents per KVAh range and in some years we are in the 1 Eurocent per KVAh electricity production scale.
Here the numbers from the Fraunhofer-study for free standing PhotoVoltaik parcs in the relatively sunny south of Germany: 2030- the solar energy generation in the 2,5 € cent per KVAh range.https://www.recknagel-online.de/aktuell/publikationen/20-03-2018-studie-zu-stromgestehungskosten-strom-aus-photovoltaik-am-guenstigsten/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 20, 2018, 09:52:20 AM

Hi everyone :)
i want to share this to all of you
"http//anengineersaspect.blogspot.Com"
So good to read :D
Then search "new power source"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 20, 2018, 01:16:24 PM

Thanks Teets!
Not sure if this is the article or not:
http://anengineersaspect.blogspot.com/2011/07/nikola-tesla-new-source-of-energy-and.html

Interesting that he states: "My power generator will be of the simplest kind--just a big mass of steel, copper and aluminum, comprising a stationary and rotating part, peculiarly assembled." [/font][/size]This has been mentioned so many times by people developing TPU-like devices. Just don't have time to source them on my lunch hour.[/size]

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All the best!
Bob

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 20, 2018, 05:16:06 PM

Quote from: Bob Smith on December 20, 2018, 01:16:24 PM
Thanks Teets!
Not sure if this is the article or not:
http://anengineersaspect.blogspot.com/2011/07/nikola-tesla-new-source-of-energy-and.html (http://anengineersaspect.blogspot.com/2011/07/nikola-tesla-new-source-of-energy-and.html)

Interesting that he states: "My power generator will be of the simplest kind--just a big mass of steel, copper and aluminum, comprising a stationary and rotating part, peculiarly assembled." [/font][/size]This has been mentioned so many times by people developing TPU-like devices. Just don't have time to source them on my lunch hour.[/size]

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All the best!
Bob

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Ohh ya that is really what i want everyone to read. Suuuuh ;)
Cause everyone is out in line again.
As simple as this.
Obiously he's using three different metal isn't it? , battery like?. ???
And really start from zero point. Hmmmm :D ??? ::) 8)
No magnet? its seems something like alternator? ??? :-\
OR IT IS A RECEIVER. :) :o 8)
Bye thanks bud. :)
Sorry i'm having difficulty using this phone from a gangster. ;D
Good day. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 20, 2018, 05:41:28 PM

Sorry everyone
Thats all i can share :-\
Hope it can help. :)
Youre not waisting time as long
As you are happy what
Youre doin.
I think this maybe my last GOODBYE. PROMISE. ;D :D :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 21, 2018, 06:33:33 AM

mass to power density ratio : VA/Kg but also VA/cbm and VA/sqm
MASS A, possible output? FREQUENCY !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19291018&CC=FR&NR=667647A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19291018&CC=FR&NR=667647A&KC=A#)From the translated "description":
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A DIRECT MULTIPLICATION OF THE POWER OF THE SMALL DISTURBING MASS, BUT A NEW MEANS OF REVOVERING OF AMPLIFIED POWER ,DUE TO THE MOVEMENT OF A GREAT MASS
"GREAT MASS" = ambiental enviroment

MASS B, possible output? FREQUENCY !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20011123&CC=FR&NR=2809241A1&KC=A1#- (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20011123&CC=FR&NR=2809241A1&KC=A1#)
MASS C, possible output ? FREQUENCY !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140213&CC=US&NR=2014043128A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140213&CC=US&NR=2014043128A1&KC=A1#)
MASS D, possible output? FREQUENCY !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetailsN/description?CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19881020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19881020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
The future lithographic manufactory machinery scale :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4004210A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19770118&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4004210A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19770118&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
"Accordingly, as the elemental circuit size is reduced to the order of the electron mean free path the production ofKilowatts of power output per square centimeter of surface area of layer is obtained "
----- KW/ SQUARE-CENTIMETER = 10000 KW/SQM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 21, 2018, 08:47:37 PM

Bob, I think that you and I, have been looking for the same thing... The real power... IRON WIRE(TAKEN FROM THE EDDY CURRENT) I have some file that confirm that this energy is 10,000 (permeability)times more out that which we put in. That pdf. It was written by Cyril Smith(Smudge). And I have other like patent that confirm; power coming out from iron wire. PM me if you want make deal or if rather by this way, Not a problem for me ;D ;D ;D Just suppression like D45 :o :o :o 8)

Thank you MASTER Tito L. O.

Quote from: Bob Smith on December 20, 2018, 01:16:24 PM
Thanks Teets!
Not sure if this is the article or not:
http://anengineersaspect.blogspot.com/2011/07/nikola-tesla-new-source-of-energy-and.html

Interesting that he states: "My power generator will be of the simplest kind--just a big mass of steel, copper and aluminum, comprising a stationary and rotating part, peculiarly assembled." [/font][/size]This has been mentioned so many times by people developing TPU-like devices. Just don't have time to source them on my lunch hour.[/size]

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All the best!
Bob

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 21, 2018, 09:16:32 PM

LancaIV ...

I think you know more than what it seems, Good input. Be free. God bless you.

Quote from: lancaIV on December 21, 2018, 06:33:33 AM

mass to power density ratio : VA/Kg but also VA/cbm and VA/sqm
MASS A, possible output? FREQUENCY !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19291018&CC=FR&NR=667647A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19291018&CC=FR&NR=667647A&KC=A#)From the translated "description":
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A DIRECT MULTIPLICATION OF THE POWER OF THE SMALL DISTURBING MASS, BUT A NEW MEANS OF REVOVERING OF AMPLIFIED POWER ,DUE TO THE MOVEMENT OF A GREAT MASS
"GREAT MASS" = ambiental enviroment

MASS B, possible output? FREQUENCY !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20011123&CC=FR&NR=2809241A1&KC=A1#- (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20011123&CC=FR&NR=2809241A1&KC=A1#)
MASS C, possible output ? FREQUENCY !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140213&CC=US&NR=2014043128A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140213&CC=US&NR=2014043128A1&KC=A1#)
MASS D, possible output? FREQUENCY !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetailsN/description?CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19881020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19881020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
The future lithographic manufactory machinery scale :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4004210A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19770118&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4004210A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19770118&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
"Accordingly, as the elemental circuit size is reduced to the order of the electron mean free path the production ofKilowatts of power output per square centimeter of surface area of layer is obtained "
----- KW/ SQUARE-CENTIMETER = 10000 KW/SQM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 22, 2018, 08:34:09 AM

Most of us know the history from the calculator machine and the micronizing during the last decades.From room- wide mechanic "kolossos" to EPROM( software included) small devices.Bit/ Bytes processing from Hz- range to KHz, MHz, GHz,THz to PetaHz.One Hertzianische "Schwingung/Kreislauf/ cycle" stimulated by to 2 Pulses per second, ergo 50 Hz~ 3000 RPM,US 60 Hz~ 3600 RPM.
Let us look for power density maximizing :
http://electrifyingtimes.com/Helmut_Schiller_motor.html (http://electrifyingtimes.com/Helmut_Schiller_motor.html)
For a 3000 RPM motor( or generator)for a 1 KW output we need 0,5 Kg Material and circa 0,5 Kg for the case (UQM- number).Let us maximize the RPM and by each step halving the weight : to 6000 - 12000 - 24000 - 48000 - 96000 - 192000 - and finally 384000 Revolutions Per Minute so we have a weight reduction from 1Kg- 0,5 Kg -0,25 Kg-0,125 Kg-0,0625 Kg- 0,03125 Kg to finally 0,015625 Kg total material need for an 1 KW revolving machine.fiftheen virgula six two five Grams for 1 KW kinetic or electrical output( without conventional losses incorporation)-----------------------Why 384000 RPM ? Cause this number is near the (60O)v2 RPM = 360000 RPM Kunel- gear :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19771103&CC=DE&NR=2617553A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19771103&CC=DE&NR=2617553A1&KC=A1#)
-------Are 360000 RPM much ? In quantummechanical FREQUENCY- turns( static velocity) this is a ridiculous low number :
6000 Hz or 6 KHz per second.------- hydrolysis frequency spectrum
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940505&CC=DE&NR=4238952A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940505&CC=DE&NR=4238952A1&KC=A1#)7,3 x (10)v12 Hz work process frequency;

induction heating frequency spectrum
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=7&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20161222&CC=DE&NR=112014006403A5&KC=A5#
(https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=7&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20161222&CC=DE&NR=112014006403A5&KC=A5#)50 Hz up to 50 KHz induction heat process frequency-----------------------
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140213&CC=US&NR=2014043128A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140213&CC=US&NR=2014043128A1&KC=A1#)708 ccm device volume and Frequency process velocity dependant output?! 400 Hz work range : 16,78 KVA and 6 KHz work range : 256 KVA output

Very low cost hydrolysis, also useful for syn-/waterfuels production------------------------------------------
From molecular co-/ adhaesion force range to nanoquantummechanical = nuclear force range, using temperature- neutral magnetic current ( more : Prof. Ehrenhaft)
electro-magnetic spectrum,temperature- free Infrared-waves---------------------
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20010710&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20010710&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)"IT IS NOT GENERALLY RECOGNIZED... IS INCREASED"
This last is from the US Navy R&D, if I include Harold Goldbaums generator with these east- german device
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19891018&CC=DD&NR=272727A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19891018&CC=DD&NR=272727A1&KC=A1#)
we will get a mass destructive weapon or a mass destructive industrial device . An electro-magnetic beam in Tera-Watt- range. On a Drone ...-----------------Probably the in the 80' patent applied east german decelerator device comparable with https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=2015164531A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=4&date=20151029&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=2015164531A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=4&date=20151029&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: partzman on December 22, 2018, 02:20:27 PM

Quote from: leonelogb on December 21, 2018, 08:47:37 PM
Bob, I think that you and I, have been looking for the same thing... The real power... IRON WIRE(TAKEN FROM THE EDDY CURRENT) I have some file that confirm that this energy is 10,000 (permeability)times more out that which we put in. That pdf. It was written by Cyril Smith(Smudge). And I have other like patent that confirm; power coming out from iron wire. PM me if you want make deal or if rather by this way, Not a problem for me ;D ;D ;D Just suppression like D45 :o :o :o 8)

Thank you MASTER Tito L. O.

For the record, the snippet you show is from a paper by Cyril entitled "Magnetic Energy in Ferromagnetic Material 4th draft ©Cyril Smith, November 2003". I have attached the paper below for reference.

Cyril is a wealth of information regarding theoretical physics and how it would/could apply to potential free energy devices. As an individual, he freely contributes more in this area than the sum total of any and all individuals I can think of! My hat is off to this man and he is deserving of way more credit and respect than he is given.

Regards,
Pm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 22, 2018, 07:00:28 PM

Partzman
Me too, My hat is off to this man, I wish that he come over and teach us the best way to use this kind of machine (with iron wire).
Tesla in his 77 year old said something about it, but we know that Cyril Smith can help us. I know that ramset is a good guy and he has been working hard to do this world better, He can contacted him. Peace!

Quote from: partzman on December 22, 2018, 02:20:27 PM
For the record, the snippet you show is from a paper by Cyril entitled "Magnetic Energy in Ferromagnetic Material 4th draft ©Cyril Smith, November 2003". I have attached the paper below for reference.

Cyril is a wealth of information regarding theoretical physics and how it would/could apply to potential free energy devices. As an individual, he freely contributes more in this area than the sum total of any and all individuals I can think of! My hat is off to this man and he is deserving of way more credit and respect than he is given.

Regards,
Pm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 23, 2018, 12:51:25 AM

thinking reversible-
Photo-n-electric
L.E.D. Light Emitting Diode and L.A.D. Light Absorving Diode-
Phono-n-electric
M.E.D. Magnetism Emitting Diode and M.A.D. Magnetism Absorving Diode-
Why high frequencies ?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triode (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triode)
"Transit Time"/ gap distance
"recombination" time window

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on December 23, 2018, 05:56:25 AM

Well light and electricity are the same vibration, just different frequency. I have been trying to say to people, that freq must affect the power somehow. I get told "no", because some equation is missing freq as a parameter.

Do you blue laser has more power, because it has more light in it? It has more power because of the higher freq.

Every transformer is an OU device. The L2 gets its power from the ambient by excitation that the L1 provides. The brainfart there is the return line to the grid on L1. You immediately owe that and you gotta pull major magic to compensate for it. Just use DC pulses and a coilcap. Then you use just fields

Then the core. Is it anything else than induction? Well why are we using just one core loop then between L1 and L2? Too much gain?

Does the electricity get spent, if it passes the L2? I am pretty sure you can light a bulb if you place it after L1 in the coil cable. Well why no pass it through 100 cores then?

If the core is just a "coil" and the transformer is just induction, why not make our air core L2 coils thick copper pipe that is self looped with a cap for resonance? Then cover the L2 with with insulated cable that is then the ouutput.

If static charge can charge caps, why not use a bicycle wheel that has "pads" that get charged from an "eternal battery" meaning the static charge holder? Wheel would turn and charge a pad. Then the wheel turns and you dump that pad to a cap. I bet the static charger would hold its charge in vacuum for weeks.

What if I put an open coil around a core, then a diode and a cap. Another open coil with reversed diode over the core and to the other side of the cap. Cap plates are connected by L1 that has a spark gap and induction to L2. You tell me how Lentz comes into play, when it can't get through to the source because of the ipen coils.

My point here is that we need to rethink everything from start to finish. If free energy exists, that automatically means that active suppression exists too. It is in the school books, science and engineering. This is guaranteed by the 5 trillion they make every year selling electricity to us. They know that some day the game is over and that is why the electric bill says kWh. They only rent it to us by the hour.

I have under a hundred more ideas and I was going to use them for different patents and getting me money. I have come to a conclusion, that this is the only reason we are still slaves. I will test all my ideas, since for sure most of them are just wishful thinking. The rest I will publish open source, because we are 100 years behind our evolution all ready.

Merry Horus' birthday to all!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 24, 2018, 12:12:16 PM

" If the core is just a coil""....http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=102004020962&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en [0017]

--------------------------An only wire transformer : http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=JP&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2007028879&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=ja&TRGLANG=en

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on December 24, 2018, 02:33:52 PM

few seconds from the video start. They have created and LED that is 230% efficient

https://youtu.be/IceYPhXj0cY?t=485

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 24, 2018, 05:10:20 PM

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ingenieur.de%2Ftechnik%2Fforschung%2Fgold-schmilzt-bei-raumtemperatur%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ingenieur.de%2Ftechnik%2Fforschung%2Fgold-schmilzt-bei-raumtemperatur%2F)
" negative Faraday cage principle" ?
Sincerely and holy days
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 24, 2018, 06:06:36 PM

Happy christmas!!!

Christ loves you all !!!

847,008 Patent :P

Quote from: lancaIV on December 24, 2018, 12:12:16 PM
" If the core is just a coil""....http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=102004020962&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en [0017]

--------------------------An only wire transformer : http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=JP&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2007028879&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=ja&TRGLANG=en

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on December 24, 2018, 11:23:15 PM

Great post, Leonel!
Merry Christmas.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on December 25, 2018, 06:21:07 AM

To the first figure from the US847008 application I think in 2018 correlation :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/data/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990708&CC=DE&NR=19737047A1&KC=A1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/data/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990708&CC=DE&NR=19737047A1&KC=A1)

To the second figure, now instead fine cable a very thick coil :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=29&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941208&CC=DE&NR=4318270A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=29&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941208&CC=DE&NR=4318270A1&KC=A1#)
And today instead fine coils the micromechanical industry uses sputted/ coated nanolithografical layers in npn or pnp Angstrom-density.Rectenna- devices or nantenna or " dots" as energy-signal- charge transforming converter
or meter up to kilometer long photo-/ thermoelectric converting "sputted/ doted" yarn/- array.

But I think in and for 3d-printable devices, for local fabrication to repeatable own home 3d-printer production.
Happy and peaceful daysOCWL
p.s.: ionic wind-force converter like this in micro-dimension, " paddle" of black silicium/silicon
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20131226&CC=US&NR=2013341932A1&KC=A1#

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 25, 2018, 01:56:08 PM

;)

Quote from: Bob Smith on December 24, 2018, 11:23:15 PM
Great post, Leonel!
Merry Christmas.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on December 26, 2018, 02:08:26 AM

Merry Christmas.
I'm glad you are so advanced

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on December 27, 2018, 05:54:30 AM

Merry Chrismas ... ALL

especially .. for respected persons here.
good for Lord Jesus ... thank for overunity.com ... also

Hi Dave45 ... Merry Merry Christmas ... buddy

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 07:01:35 AM

This thread has potential, huge potential.

You need two things:
Come and work in a Troll Free environment (http://www.aboveunity.com/)!
Don't share your progress with people here!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on December 27, 2018, 08:02:00 AM

Quote from: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 07:01:35 AM
This thread has potential, huge potential.

You need two things:
Come and work in a Troll Free environment (http://www.aboveunity.com/)!
Don't share your progress with people here!

BEAUTIFULLY ... CORRECT ... sir 8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on February 05, 2019, 02:52:40 AM

Quote from: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 07:01:35 AM
This thread has potential, huge potential.

You need two things:
Come and work in a Troll Free environment (http://www.aboveunity.com/)!
Don't share your progress with people here!

Hi! everyone

i'm just crossing here and just a little bit visiting. ;D

i just want to share something to all in case you are new here ok.

here it is: http://www.r-charge.net/Free-Energy_ep_56.html

bye and God bless you all ;) ;D
otiritis ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on February 05, 2019, 03:09:42 AM

BUT WHERE IS THE GRAVY.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYC4LdbLz7Q

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on February 05, 2019, 06:39:25 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on February 05, 2019, 02:52:40 AM

Hi! everyone

i'm just crossing here and just a little bit visiting. ;D

i just want to share something to all in case you are new here ok.

here it is: http://www.r-charge.net/Free-Energy_ep_56.html

bye and God bless you all ;) ;D
otiritis ;D

The link talks about burning hydrogen as fuel and then only pollution is water vapor. Do you know what is the biggest green house gas on Earth? It is not CO2. Water vapor and clouds 75%. CO2 20% (5% of that man made) and methane,ozone etc rest

IPCC is going to lynch you, if you come up with a hydrogen burning engine!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on February 05, 2019, 11:40:32 AM

The most precious things in life are overlooked
and ... the world try to make this very subtle and overlook things to goes out sight

.... once you look throught it ... will us wiling to laugh and give thanks
The nature is sooo simple and sooo complex at the same time ...
LIKE opposing magnetic field

It's why ... faith must come first
because my five sense and brain soo limited
I'm the dust ... Belfior dumbledore

I don't buy the theory that human has unlimited power and brain ... blah .. bla
The Aether said : By myself I can do nothing (John 5:30)

The Aether is the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Its nature are Divine Paradox ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on February 05, 2019, 12:08:39 PM

Quote from: densama on February 05, 2019, 11:40:32 AM
The most precious things in life are overlooked
and ... the world try to make this very subtle and overlook things to goes out sight

.... once you look throught it ... will us wiling to laugh and give thanks
The nature is sooo simple and sooo complex at the same time ...
LIKE opposing magnetic field

It's why ... faith must come first
because my five sense and brain soo limited
I'm the dust ... Belfior dumbledore

I don't buy the theory that human has unlimited power and brain ... blah .. bla
The Aether said : By myself I can do nothing (John 5:30)

The Aether is the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Its nature are Divine Paradox ;D

It is obvious we don't have unlimited brain. We keep betting our lives based on faith. Not even faith in the Creator, but in a book that some Romans wrote to conquer a rebellion

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on February 08, 2019, 10:13:13 AM

Above-unity centipede circuit design: by Tito L. Oracion

1.   make multiple primaries and multiple secondaries coils in every centipede legs (these centipede legs are
primaries and secondaries ok)
2.   make a coil with extra coil with a capacitor on every leg of the centipede (to produce lots of kicks or power)
then
3.   discharge a capacitor on that coil with extra coil with a capacitor
4.   you can take full control only in the secondary coil of every legs.
5.   make some series or parallel connection tecchnique to obtain high current or high voltage you desire
6.   the battery and the pulser is connected in the head and tail.
7.   MAKE MANY OF THE RADIANT OR THE MAGNIFYING TRANSMITTER RECEIVER OF TESLA AND SUPER AMPLIFY
THE RECEIVER
8.   make MANY strong charge separator
9.   use cable one number #10 awg and number #28 awg and do it in very small voltage first.

hope leon and wattsup can give some additional notes ::)
waiting ... here :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on February 09, 2019, 12:12:46 PM

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmazeto.net%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D4252.0

http://mazeto.net/index.php?topic=4252.0

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tysb3 on February 14, 2019, 08:52:39 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLVOp_cnR_U

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 14, 2019, 12:34:06 PM

Quote from: tysb3 on February 14, 2019, 08:52:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLVOp_cnR_U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLVOp_cnR_U)

Looks good. I'd love to know what he's saying.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: tysb3 on February 14, 2019, 03:17:29 PM

It's about separating magnetic fields. inside (generator) coil is using about 10% energy of magnetic field of outside (inductor) coil. outside coil do not "see" magnetic field of inside coil. energy is collecting from back EMF of both coils. sorry for my English

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 07, 2019, 03:17:44 AM

Quote from: seychelles on February 05, 2019, 03:09:42 AM
BUT WHERE IS THE GRAVY.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYC4LdbLz7Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYC4LdbLz7Q)

hey unthankfull doggy here is your gravy, you put it in your face. :D joke. >:(
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu1hNQsr9YnkIjFkMAc3Npw (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu1hNQsr9YnkIjFkMAc3Npw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E372JNUQTPY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E372JNUQTPY)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu1hNQsr9YnkIjFkMAc3Npw (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu1hNQsr9YnkIjFkMAc3Npw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkl8zyA11ks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KT3IKtbV_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuwsmJ2Yx2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEEJGjNxsAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37fYUF7acAE

astalavista master doggy ;D
meooooowwwwww ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on March 07, 2019, 06:12:49 AM

STILL NO GRAVY..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 08, 2019, 03:21:57 AM

Quote from: seychelles on March 07, 2019, 06:12:49 AM
STILL NO GRAVY..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSA_sWGM44

;D
;D

;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 08, 2019, 03:48:55 AM

https://peswiki.com/site:lrp:documented-news-and-information-pertaining-to-research-rick-friedrich-diagrams
:-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on March 08, 2019, 03:59:06 AM

HAHAHA LOOOLLLOO THANKS FOR THE LAUGHTER AND ALL.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on March 09, 2019, 06:47:21 AM

https://contest.techbriefs.com/2013/entries/sustainable-technologies/3537 (https://contest.techbriefs.com/2013/entries/sustainable-technologies/3537)

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8847720B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US8847720B2/en)

The Toyota 50Hz-100 KHz electric motor for the above " engine" : US8736128
https://patents.google.com/patent/US8736128 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US8736128)

--------------------
https://www.tedmagnetics.com/ (https://www.tedmagnetics.com/)

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9742252B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US9742252B2/en)

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140091890 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140091890)

power/density ratio 100 KW/ 34 Kg
----------------------

www.wonksmedia.com/dec.pd (http://www.wonksmedia.com/dec.pdf)

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9080557 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US9080557)

power/density ratio : 1 MW/ 30 Kg
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Conclusion : U.S.A.- external the Goldbaum/Annis/Sines devices/systems are "open source"

U. S. A.- internal the Goldbaum Application status expired = global free

The average modern household needs maximal a 5 KWpeak energy/electricity delivering device
Literature reference :

Monolith Dome(Foam) Institute : 2400 Wattpeak heat for 112 sqm living area (US- climate)
~ beginning with 2021 the E. U. "Nearly Zero Energy Building" new construction limit,20Wp/sqm

This heat can be delivered by C. O. P : 5 heat pump, frictio heater/ induction heater or IR- heat panels :electric 500 Wattpeak consume

www. oeko- energie.de the " intelligent" household 3 KWh per day for kitchen appliances
mtbest.net : down ( under) to 0,8 KWh per dayOn demand or by batteryset :

the electric efficient car less 2 KWh per 100 Km ( Helmut schiller e-Biker in the 90' : 2 KWh/ 40 Km )

Let us not take the Eddie Sines power/ density but the Theodore Annis/Eberly 100 KW/34 Kg,
( the tedmagnetics technical numbers are similar Dr. Pavel Imris e- generator)

from 1 KHz to100 Hz the power/density now 100 KW/340 Kg
and this dividing with 20 for the " 5 KWp e-generator"we get 5KW/17 Kg power/density ratio.

Now : 17 Kg x industrial Kiloprice 30 Euros ~ 510 Euros + electric controller : +/- 1000 Euros net / 5 KW

industrial production cost ( industrial price average : amorph alloy, coils, capacitor,...)
Dr. Pavel Imris e- generator industrial production Kg- price : 32 Euros net

Alternative 1 : 2 generators, one 100 Hz for the household appliances
and another in the 1/10/100 KHz range for inductive heating

Alternative 2 : 1 KWp e-generator and 5 KWh battery capacity

Falling battery prices

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.carmart.ch%2Fumwelt%2Fpreise-fuer-batterien-von-elektroautos-fallen-massiv-in-10-jahren-90%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.carmart.ch%2Fumwelt%2Fpreise-fuer-batterien-von-elektroautos-fallen-massiv-in-10-jahren-90%2F)

makes in future hybridsystems " generating + storage" attractive

In 2028 a total household energy delivery system price estimation ~ Alternative 2 : 500 Euros generator and 500 Euros batteryset( included charger + Inverter) here then endconsumer price level, not production costs

From the powerguru page : 5 KW planar/ flat inverter for 25 US$ production cost each ~ 5 US$/KWp
( 10000 units production)and Roy Kessingers 15US$/hp to 5 US$/hp motor/ generator prices range reduction ( without controle system !)we see a great price reducing potential of the " autonomous house energy system"

The 1000 Euros e-autonom home kit for the 1000 Euros " fast errect/ destruct" tiny home https://www.treehugger.com/green-architecture/gaia-house-3d-printed-out-mud-wasp.html (https://www.treehugger.com/green-architecture/gaia-house-3d-printed-out-mud-wasp.html)
or 4000 US$ 60,5 sqm
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.3d-grenzenlos.de%2Fmagazin%2Fzukunft-visionen%2Ficon-baut-haus-mit-3d-drucker-unter-24-stunden-27365293%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.3d-grenzenlos.de%2Fmagazin%2Fzukunft-visionen%2Ficon-baut-haus-mit-3d-drucker-unter-24-stunden-27365293%2F)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 10, 2019, 05:26:55 AM

Hi everyone i just come here just for the request, but i think this really is my last and final post. :(

first of all i want to thank everybody that contributed in my research and experiment weather they know it or not. ;D

i want to a very deepLY apologize to everyone that i made them mad ok, SORRY BUDDY ITS JUST PART OF LEARNING IN EVERYONE'S MOMENT. ???

I THINK ITS TIME FOR ME TO TELL THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT HOW REALLY FREE ENERGY IS OK: SO LISTEN!!!! :)

HERE ARE THE CLUES OK:

1. KICK IS THE SECRET OK?, THESE MEANS HIGH VOLTAGE!!! :o
2. DON'T KILL THE DIPOLE OK?, YOU SHOULD NOT MAKE THE ELECTRON GETTING TOO LOONG IN THE POSITIVE, SO A STRONG FAST
ELECTRON SEPARATOR IS NEEDED. 8)
3. ONE WAY OK?, THEN DO IT IN THIS WAY AND THAT'S REALLY IT. 8)

one wire can be in two way, one is sucking and one is pushing but doing only one thing. :)

i think that's all i can say. pls don't be mad peace to all of you.

God bless all of you!!!
one thing more important in this life. you have to know JESUS for your soul to be save, he's coming soon.
pls forgive me for all not appropriate word that i said to anyone. just believe in JESUS and read the BIBLE. that's the truth,

hope you can do it buddy. :)
i won't reply anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUgoXyBAwxo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUgoXyBAwxo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkul2HPSDVc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkul2HPSDVc)

THANK YOU FOR ALL ACCOMMODATION
BYE BYE
MCGYVER :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: a.king21 on July 10, 2019, 09:57:28 PM

Tito: Still posting nonsense after all these years. Some of us have moved on...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 30, 2019, 03:32:05 AM

Quote from: a.king21 on July 10, 2019, 09:57:28 PM
Tito: Still posting nonsense after all these years. Some of us have moved on...

whooooooow! :o

How come its nonsense? ??? ??? !!!!!!!!!!!
can you explain more farther sir. :)

the tail from some pic of tesla in his antenna. ;)

deleting everything...................................................

and God bless
goodbye. ;)

love you :-*
altritis ;D joke

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 30, 2019, 03:34:32 AM

bye the way its the last post i was just crossing the river. hehehhehehhehe ;D

WHY NOT TRY THIS: http://www.r-charge.net/Free-Energy_ep_56.html (http://www.r-charge.net/Free-Energy_ep_56.html) ;)
http://www.borderlands.de/Links/Free_Energy_Multiplier.pdf (http://www.borderlands.de/Links/Free_Energy_Multiplier.pdf)

THEY ARE CONTINUING IN DELETING THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHY. :D ;)

statue of
riverti ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on July 30, 2019, 05:38:37 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 30, 2019, 03:32:05 AM

the tail from some pic of tesla in his antenna. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on July 30, 2019, 05:48:39 AM

Hi Tito. I hope evrything is fine.
I read more than once all your posts which are really very helpfull for someone who experiments in this direction. If you have some time i'd like to ask you in which way you use Carbon and aluminum. As conductors? As cores? Especially about aluminum, is it better for primary or for secondary (reception) side? I saw that at the old times they were locating it as a plate between coils and cores. When i wrap my tranformers with aluminum connecting it to ground they give me some amplification more than without it.

Thanks
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on August 26, 2019, 04:38:04 PM

Been sick for a while and not following. But thinking clearly today, and starting to get back on my feet.
So...
What if we had 3 coils:
- One functioning as an ambient charge collector, dumping the charge as it builds up into...
- A second coil, open-ended (i.e., one end not attached to anything), wrapped around or overtop of...
- A third coil (possibly series bifilar), to receive charge from the second, and from which a supply of useable voltage can be drawn.

I think we would need the following items in addition to the above:
- low latency, fast diodes for AV plug (e.g., Schottky)
- zener diode, to allow charge to build before reaching breakdown voltage
- a small capacitor or two for abrupt discharge.

What do you think Teets?
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 19, 2019, 03:47:26 AM

Quote from: Jeg on July 30, 2019, 05:48:39 AM
Hi Tito. I hope evrything is fine.
I read more than once all your posts which are really very helpfull for someone who experiments in this direction. If you have some time i'd like to ask you in which way you use Carbon and aluminum. As conductors? As cores? Especially about aluminum, is it better for primary or for secondary (reception) side? I saw that at the old times they were locating it as a plate between coils and cores. When i wrap my tranformers with aluminum connecting it to ground they give me some amplification more than without it.

Thanks
Jeg

Hi buddy, carbon and aluminum are good as battery because it gives you lots of electron, and was used by tesla in his make and brake contacts, and aluminum i believe is good in anti gravity where i am currently experimenting on it.
no big deal in primary or secondary ok?

sorry bro i do not want to post anymore :(
hoping for your experiments. ;)

God bless always remember the promises of God :) ;)
etits ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 19, 2019, 03:56:56 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on August 26, 2019, 04:38:04 PM
Been sick for a while and not following. But thinking clearly today, and starting to get back on my feet.
So...
What if we had 3 coils:
- One functioning as an ambient charge collector, dumping the charge as it builds up into...
- A second coil, open-ended (i.e., one end not attached to anything), wrapped around or overtop of...
- A third coil (possibly series bifilar), to receive charge from the second, and from which a supply of useable voltage can be drawn.

I think we would need the following items in addition to the above:
- low latency, fast diodes for AV plug (e.g., Schottky)
- zener diode, to allow charge to build before reaching breakdown voltage
- a small capacitor or two for abrupt discharge.

What do you think Teets?
Bob

Well, you have all the needed things in the recipee of free energy but as i always says,
it is in the ARRANGEMENT OF THE CIRCUIT.

I CANNOT POST ANYMORE EVERYONE !!!!!!!!!
CAUSE I'M ALSO ALWAYS IN ASTHMA ATTACK, AND I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR SOLUTION TO BIT THIS SHORT BREATHE. :D ;D 8)
AND I FOUND ONE VERY CHEAP AND EFFECTIVE SOLUTION ALREADY. THEY ARE NOT DOING THIS IN THE HOSPITAL ACTUALLY. 8) :o

BE CAREFULL IN YOUR EXPERIMENT BUDDY. :) ;) :-*

BYE God bless and goodbye
efren frm the moon ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zeca-diabo on September 19, 2019, 04:05:05 AM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 19, 2019, 04:19:09 AM

https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/gods-promises-verses-in-the-bible/ (https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/gods-promises-verses-in-the-bible/)
https://www.compassionuk.org/blogs/gods-promises/ (https://www.compassionuk.org/blogs/gods-promises/)https://theblazingcenter.com/2019/03/promises-of-god.html (https://theblazingcenter.com/2019/03/promises-of-god.html)

ALL PEOPLE'S PROMISES FAIL BUT GOD'S PROMISES SURELY HAPPEN!!! :)

BONUS:
[size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U1OxwpRXSo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U1OxwpRXSo)[/size] OK JUST ADD SOME DENATURED ALCOHOL. THATS BY ME. ;)
[size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iE-76F68hg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iE-76F68hg)[/size] I LIKE IT BECAUSE THIS IS MUCH CONTROLLABLE. ;) 8)
[size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSRUJL13v9o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSRUJL13v9o)[/size] OH HOW EASY TO MAKE GUN ISN'T IT? HUH. ???

EFREN DI MAHANAP ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 19, 2019, 04:31:58 AM

Quote from: zeca-diabo on September 19, 2019, 04:05:05 AM
Hi Tito,
Can you please answer these 2 only questions?
So we have 3 coils.
first the shotgun, second the 2 birds.
Are the 2 birds the same length between them or is it 25% / 75%?
Are the 2 birds in relation to the shotgun 3 x larger or the same?
Thanks.

so long fell take care. :)

etikets ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 19, 2019, 04:34:25 AM

BYE EVERYONE HAPPY TO ALL OF YOU. :-*

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;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zeca-diabo on September 19, 2019, 04:37:44 AM

;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 19, 2019, 04:47:26 AM

Quote from: zeca-diabo on September 19, 2019, 04:37:44 AM
Yes, but the 2 birds, 1 is fatter than the other, no?
And they have the same length?
Thanks

.
bye. no more ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: zeca-diabo on September 19, 2019, 07:44:38 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 19, 2019, 04:47:26 AM
.
bye. no more ;D

Ok fisherOttits ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on September 21, 2019, 01:21:03 PM

Enough, here it is! Tito Schematic ;D ;D ;D .... :P

Quote
Quote from: Bob Smith on August 26, 2019, 10:38:04 PM

Been sick for a while and not following. But thinking clearly today, and starting to get back on my feet.
So...
What if we had 3 coils:
- One functioning as an ambient charge collector, dumping the charge as it builds up into...
- A second coil, open-ended (i.e., one end not attached to anything), wrapped around or overtop of...
- A third coil (possibly series bifilar), to receive charge from the second, and from which a supply of useable voltage can be drawn.

I think we would need the following items in addition to the above:
- low latency, fast diodes for AV plug (e.g., Schottky)
- zener diode, to allow charge to build before reaching breakdown voltage
- a small capacitor or two for abrupt discharge.

What do you think Teets?
Bob

Well, you have all the needed things in the recipee of free energy but as i always says,
it is in the ARRANGEMENT OF THE CIRCUIT.

I CANNOT POST ANYMORE EVERYONE !!!!!!!!!
CAUSE I'M ALSO ALWAYS IN ASTHMA ATTACK, AND I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR SOLUTION TO BIT THIS SHORT BREATHE. :D ;D 8)
AND I FOUND ONE VERY CHEAP AND EFFECTIVE SOLUTION ALREADY. THEY ARE NOT DOING THIS IN THE HOSPITAL ACTUALLY. 8) :o

BE CAREFULL IN YOUR EXPERIMENT BUDDY. :) ;) :-*

BYE God bless and goodbye
efren frm the moon ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on September 23, 2019, 09:19:53 PM

Tito tell me???? choose one! :-*

a) You are a good teacher
b) I'm good student
c) a and b 8)

QuoteThis is one reason why Tesla so favored the series circuit. He also favored it with one end loose -- the so-called "single-wire" circuit, without a return.) If the driving voltage to such a single-wire series resonant circuit is applied to the coil with the open-ended capacitor beyond, and the voltage is applied for only the first 90 degrees as a sine wave then instantly removed, the coil will be charged without current flow, accumulating a 5-d gravitational potential. When the coil discharges, it will discharge in two directions, producing real current, at a certain frequency (which may be drastically different from the "normal electrical current" resonant frequency. However, actual current will be induced out of both ends of the coil at this frequency. The capacitor will charge a little bit from this effect. The overshoot of the coil discharge back toward the disconnected driver is also usable energy if connected to a proper load. If the load is removed and the driving voltage is reapplied just as the overshoot reduces back to zero, the cycle is repeated, charging the distant capacitor more and more, and producing pulses of usable power through the overshoot discharge on the driver side. By adapting this mechanism, a free energy motor can be readily produced, as demonstrated by Bedini, Watson, and others with a battery-driven, series-wound DC motor unit."

I have done many experiments in the past with Bedini type rotored and solid state oscillators, also using them for single wire resonance, charging caps with an Avramenko plug and earth ground, but I can't quite figure out how exactly the setup he talks about here should be connected in the real world in a circuit.
It's the "applying voltage for only 90 degrees and then removed..." that I saw a connection to what you said in your introduction.
Maybe this is not at all what meant, so forgive me for bringing this up.

One more thing, about Tesla's bifilar coil. I made an interesting setup once, basically a solid state Bedini type oscillator, but instead of having a cap receiving the coil collapse I connected a bifilar coil. Meaning the output of the power coil was connected to a bifilar coil with a diode (like in normal Bedini setup). The wires on the other side of the bifilar were left open. Running the circuit for even just a fraction of time would charge the bifilar coil like a cap, and the neat thing was that it could sit there for hours after the circuit had been shut off, when I would short its open wires it would discharge with a bang just like a cap, well, because it is 8)
The point is, this setup still needed power to charge the bifilar capacity through electric connection, but what if it had been ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on September 24, 2019, 02:53:21 PM

Well the recipe for one type of free energy lies exactly there.

If you have a circuit. You are screwed. No OU ever

So you start with impulses. Amplify. Store. Transform and in the end only you use a circuit with the load.

Energy cannot be create or destroyed, so it was all created in the Big Bang (except now they are saying it is the Big Bounce). So that is the energy trapped in the vacuum in quantum theory. That is the Sea of Energy Moray talked about and the ambient, where Donald E. Smith took it from. Heaviside, Tesla and others talked about the Ether. It was "destroyed" by the energy company shills Mickelson&Morley, but yet again found by Silvertooth in the 80s

People are trying to use the methods that hide free energy to find free energy. That is just weird. Like they would teach you this stuff in schools and find out there is energy to be used for free!?! What kinda cartel would that be?

The beauty is that you don't need to know "where" the energy comes from. You create a potential difference and Nature with her OCD will level that difference. You just make it hard for her to do and put your load in between. The earth ground will provide ANY amount of energy needed to get a plate to zero volts

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on September 29, 2019, 11:57:57 PM

Ok, ok, ok, Tito don't want to talk me because I need to use the efficient Way of using the soucer
This schemt. Go in the bifilar coil :-X

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2019, 04:17:56 AM

hi everyone

i think i have to tell something. :)

we should all stick to the first clue:

IT SHOULD ONLY BE A PIECE OF WIRE AND IT SHOULD MAKE A KICK. 8)

GOT IT?

OK BYE

TO LEON: WELL, you're good to many things but you should be a good analyzer. :)
there are thousands of info there and only two are working. ???

what do you think?

bye everyone
God Bless you all
cannot really reply more i'm always sick now a days.

The seeker ;D :-* :-* :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on September 30, 2019, 11:48:45 AM

Got it ;D ;D ;D ;D 8) 8) (only two are working) :D

I'll pray for you health, God has been good and He will continue even after our death!

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 30, 2019, 04:17:56 AM
hi everyone

i think i have to tell something. :)

we should all stick to the first clue:

IT SHOULD ONLY BE A PIECE OF WIRE AND IT SHOULD MAKE A KICK. 8)

GOT IT?

OK BYE

TO LEON: WELL, you're good to many things but you should be a good analyzer. :)
there are thousands of info there and only two are working. ???

what do you think?

bye everyone
God Bless you all
cannot really reply more i'm always sick now a days.

The seeker ;D :-* :-* :-*

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 12, 2019, 04:48:30 AM

i just want to share these: IT CAN HELP, BE A GOOD ANALYZER. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8GhWyBNANw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8GhWyBNANw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuPeVG8_b_c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuPeVG8_b_c)

THE TRUTH IS FAITH IN JESUS ALONE WILL GONNA SAVE YOUR SOUL!!!! :)

ONE MUST PRAY TO GOD DEEPLY WITH REAL GENUINE REPENTANCE WITH A FULL HUMILITY IN YOUR HEART TO SEE THE LIGHT. :)
THAT IS WHAT GOD WANT TO SEE IN YOU!!!. :)

GOD BLESS EVERYONE. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: that_prophet on October 19, 2019, 02:44:52 PM

JUST THINK of a little logic, it takes only a few short bursts of current to rotate a 30 cm circumference pulley once, giving you 30 cm of moving belt, which you could run past 3 mini-pulleys of 1 cm circumference with AC generators attached, giving you 90 cycles of AC electricity,,, NOW TRY + TELL ME YOU CANNOT FREELY MULTIPLY AC ELECTRICITY, when you can gain 90 cycles of AC electricity from a few sparks of current
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+ don't you believe in this stupid torque lie,,,,,,, torque only occurs when you need to produce power + the only power that you need to produce to have this set of motors/generators self powered, is a few short burst of current,,,,,,,, from 90 cycles of AC electricity
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WAKE UP PEOPLE,,,,,,,
Have you ever heard of the Mandela Effect
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CHECK THIS OUT,,,,
+ try telling me that there is not a powerful spiritual warfare going on in our world
-
- Here is one of the videos trying to let this scary information out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPrutcbaerQ&list=PLDIEv5nkqqEa0-u8DIzqpefKBAG0nkb7g&index=1
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+ here is an explanation by the Physicists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHKmoBeNWWQ&list=PLDIEv5nkqqEa0-u8DIzqpefKBAG0nkb7g&index=2

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 11, 2019, 11:23:56 PM

Here is what i notice here in this site, once they discover something good then they will stop digging to that so others will stop dig on that also they will divert us to other topic. SHAME ON YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!

>:( >:( >:( >:(

soo much misdirection agent here like Tito said ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Raycathode on November 12, 2019, 10:31:08 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 12, 2019, 04:48:30 AM
i just want to share these: IT CAN HELP, BE A GOOD ANALYZER. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8GhWyBNANw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8GhWyBNANw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuPeVG8_b_c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuPeVG8_b_c)

THE TRUTH IS FAITH IN JESUS ALONE WILL GONNA SAVE YOUR SOUL!!!! :)

ONE MUST PRAY TO (do you mean) Elohim >'Yashua'? DEEPLY WITH REAL GENUINE REPENTANCE WITH A FULL HUMILITY IN YOUR HEART TO SEE THE LIGHT. :)
THAT IS WHAT 'Elohim' WANT TO SEE IN YOU!!!. :)

GOD BLESS EVERYONE. :)

Re true history not King James with over 200 errors :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on November 15, 2019, 12:51:31 AM

Quote from: densama on November 11, 2019, 11:23:56 PM
Here is what i notice here in this site, once they discover something good then they will stop digging to that so others will stop dig on that also they will divert us to other topic. SHAME ON YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!

People that find a topic interesting, will continue to research it.

Unfortunately many of us don't have time to investigate all of the topics,
much less follow all of them simultaneously.
And often the next 'new thing' catches the attention of the masses.

This particular topic should last a good while.
There have always been phenomenon where a small energy builds up to very large energies.

To harness that power, could set us all free

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 15, 2019, 04:26:06 AM

i'm just crossing and i just want to share an important things in life. :)

please listen, i believe that intelligent person can able to learn deeply secret things, can able to grasp the essence of truth. 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU6eJ9FCu7U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU6eJ9FCu7U)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDsjR4vF-cU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDsjR4vF-cU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aMuvA9Mfoc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aMuvA9Mfoc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1VIL4cCN0c

please try to be a good analyzer ok?, bye 8)

PLEASE LISTEN, PLEASE LISTEN, PLEASE LESTEN OK? THANK YOU.
FREE ENERGY IS NOTHING COMPARED TO THE REAL SOURCE OF ENERGY FROM GOD. 8)

God Bless
ot ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on November 15, 2019, 08:33:06 AM

Tito people watch ...they pay attention.
they watch a man called Tito who claims to have life saving technology ... turn his back on the suffering the needy the hungry .and pretends to be Godly.

such a man is in the wrong place here.
Live by example

No part of your "lifes example here" are Christlike .
maybe you started a new religion ?? here you teach "take Run and torment "
Is it ten years yet ? how much more extinctions death and suffering ??
a harder heart would be hard to imagine !
Yeesh
it is no wonder you write of illness lately,,Hiding such a gift .........

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on November 15, 2019, 03:04:18 PM

well there are some good points being said. I think there must be a school of misinformation somewhere, because the "attacks" on anything that touches areas that might reveal some interesting anomalies brings on the same kinda response every time. No matter what the forum is, so not necessarily overunity.com

That is actually a valuable tool to validate your intuition even before the bench...

Tito is talking about intelligent people. Well I think any intelligent person can tell after 2 days or research, that any religion is actual valid spiritualism plus politics. The sad fact is that people tend to read these books as gospel (pun intended) and they miss the whole point if there ever was one. There are religions that are there just to make money, so there will be no great mysteries explained in those books. I am not sure what God he is talking about, but if that is the Christian God then you just go and find the writings that the Bible stole, then you find the writings that book stole, the previous book stole and end up in Sumer and you find the original stories and they might shock your world.

If you believe in Jesus and that if you just keep turning your cheek, not mind the evil ones and you give emperor what the emperor wants, then good luck to you and I hope you are happy and that you find love in your life.

I am really not bothered too much about people believing in some religion. They have eternal souls and maybe after few reincarnations they will start to see a pattern

I think this Tito act is just getting boring and it is just a copy of Zilano. Maybe even the same guy. "I got the secret", "oh maybe I don't", "I got it, but I will leave now", "ok here some clues, if you are smart you will see it", "here is a schematic", "oh maybe it works, maybe it does not", "praise the Lord and the eternal bliss", "Ok I leave now forever", "ok here some 16h videos to pull you from the bench". Ring any bells?

The only way an engineer can find overunity is if he drops something while drunk and it does something to the "device". Then something happens that cannot be done, because "natural laws" prohibit that. Faraday seemed to be the only guy with any sense.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 18, 2019, 01:48:58 AM

Quote from: ramset on November 15, 2019, 08:33:06 AM
Tito people watch ...they pay attention.
they watch a man called Tito who claims to have life saving technology ... turn his back on the suffering the needy the hungry .and pretends to be Godly.

such a man is in the wrong place here.
Live by example

No part of your "lifes example here" are Christlike .
maybe you started a new religion ?? here you teach "take Run and torment "
Is it ten years yet ? how much more extinctions death and suffering ??
a harder heart would be hard to imagine !
Yeesh
it is no wonder you write of illness lately,,Hiding such a gift .........

What?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( :-*
How come, i'm just crossing and just sharing good things that i believe more important than what you think. ???

such kind of thinking is not my level.

hey ramset how much rum did you take, why you talk like a drunk!!!!

@debelfior
Yes i'm kinda boring because i find no more interesting stuff here,. especially your post.

senseless nothing nada void toink and poink poink. ;D

@ you two
Do you think you can fools intelligent people? huh
Your talent is in destroying someones credibility.

anyway i forgive you.

i think even just for me giving good info here will not anymore good because of these two person that even i give or share good things, its just the same i'm still bad for them. got it? :P

babooo :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P ;D

anyway God bless still :-* love you bro ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 18, 2019, 01:52:31 AM

FREE ENERGY IS NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF JUNK.

BYE GOODBYE!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
MAGLUVIN

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on November 21, 2019, 02:04:26 AM

I'm not sure what religious buffs think they will encounter on a scientific forum....

It's not like they're giving us their "god" in a box to experiment with.

Teach us how to power a city on 'faith'.... then we have something to talk about.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: rakarskiy on November 21, 2019, 02:36:59 AM

http://tinyurl.com/wy3nhrf

Interesting toy! In the simulator, the circuit has no power supply, only ground. Press the ground button and connect to the circuit. Wait a few seconds and turn it off. The circuit will have unreal voltage potential and fantastic currents.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Raycathode on November 21, 2019, 10:37:29 AM

Quote from: sm0ky2 on November 21, 2019, 02:04:26 AM
I'm not sure what religious buffs think they will encounter on a scientific forum....
So what Science do they teach here? it's just full of arguments and naysayers and laymen.

It's not like they're giving us their "god" in a box to experiment with.
If you read the book of HANOK God're'le was Satan who tempted eve and God was swapped by King James from Yahweh the creator.
so a god is a demonic entity. History of dead sea scrolls pre dates Yashua as to Jesus where did he come from?

Teach us how to power a city on 'faith'.... then we have something to talk about.
In new york is a Catholic cathedral and another elsewhere the point is in its basement is a statue of Satan in his throne and another just outside Hereford UK and a Museum in Burlin Hitler imported from Turkey just before the war. So enough incorrectly quoted and said about religion on here it's really about politics and controls the Babylonian empire!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Raycathode on November 21, 2019, 11:01:56 AM

This energy amplification thing does anyone know the design formula for a tuned winding wave length winding placed on a ferrox
core ie for setting up a tuned wave length resonance?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 21, 2019, 02:23:35 PM

Quote from: rakarskiy on November 21, 2019, 02:36:59 AM
http://tinyurl.com/wy3nhrf (http://tinyurl.com/wy3nhrf)

Interesting toy! In the simulator, the circuit has no power supply, only ground. Press the ground button and connect to the circuit. Wait a few seconds and turn it off. The circuit will have unreal voltage potential and fantastic currents.

I have no Falstad experience. How do you "connect to the circuit"?
I pressed the ground and it turned blue. What do you do after that?
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: e2matrix on November 21, 2019, 04:34:51 PM

Bob, it's just a matter of dragging the short wire between the ground (upper half) and the circuit to right - grab the area closest to the circuit and move it so it's straight up thus connecting it to the circuit. The drawing is a bit misleading in that it looks like the switch arm is already in contact with the circuit but it is not until you point it straight up.

Interesting how it takes off very quickly to show giga volts and giga amps. transformer appears to be a 100:1 ratio. Looks easy enough to build but would it really start achieving high power like that? It would certainly need some limit control or it would immediately fry everything. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on November 21, 2019, 10:49:54 PM

Quote from: e2matrix on November 21, 2019, 04:34:51 PM
Bob, it's just a matter of dragging the short wire between the ground (upper half) and the circuit to right - grab the area closest to the circuit and move it so it's straight up thus connecting it to the circuit. The drawing is a bit misleading in that it looks like the switch arm is already in contact with the circuit but it is not until you point it straight up.

Interesting how it takes off very quickly to show giga volts and giga amps. transformer appears to be a 100:1 ratio. Looks easy enough to build but would it really start achieving high power like that? It would certainly need some limit control or it would immediately fry everything. ;)

Thanks e2
That was unbelievable. I thought for a second my computer was going to blow up!! LOL

What do you folks think is happening?
It looks to me like the charge from the ground is feeding back into the circuit, driving it to multiple harmonic levels.

I actually think this is directly related to the Barbosa-Leal apparatus.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Raycathode on November 22, 2019, 12:51:00 AM

The circuit that's puzzling you is in complete and don't you think you might be putting too much faith into so-called computer emulation thats programer controlled.

note B is also a switch.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: rakarskiy on November 22, 2019, 02:37:33 AM

Quote from: Raycathode on November 22, 2019, 12:51:00 AM
The circuit that's puzzling you is in complete and don't you think you might be putting too much faith into so-called computer emulation thats programer controlled.

note B is also a switch.

No way, I have no illusions. Firstly, the parameters of the voltage potential, shared by the simulator, are simply not real for the incarnations (capacitance, cross-section, etc.). If you wait a long time, the circuit is discharged. This suggests that there is a reason for the excitation of such a potential.

http://tinyurl.com/vlvbvk5
Option with antenna. The software in the antenna does not have high potential. Where does the potential in the chain come from? it's just a toy for touch. can be assumed. that the error of the algorithm, or the resonant effect.

http://tinyurl.com/yx5kabgn
In this embodiment, the circuit just explodes

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: rakarskiy on November 22, 2019, 08:48:36 AM

I understood why the simulator was counting cosmic results. The bug is fixed and the scheme works closer to reality. The reason was the transformation rate of 99.99% . I put 0.9 and already the scheme works closer to reality. But it is worth thinking about how you can make such a transformer to get an explosion of energy.

http://tinyurl.com/qqkpfrb

A little bit analyzed scheme, changed parameters and received here is such outcome. The transformation ratio of 0.5

http://tinyurl.com/slurvpk
http://tinyurl.com/qp8gudw

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Raycathode on November 22, 2019, 03:59:37 PM

Quote from: rakarskiy on November 22, 2019, 08:48:36 AM
I understood why the simulator was counting cosmic results. The bug is fixed and the scheme works closer to reality. The reason was the transformation rate of 99.99% . I put 0.9 and already the scheme works closer to reality. But it is worth thinking about how you can make such a transformer to get an explosion of energy.

http://tinyurl.com/qqkpfrb

A little bit analyzed scheme, changed parameters and received here is such outcome. The transformation ratio of 0.5

http://tinyurl.com/slurvpk
http://tinyurl.com/qp8gudw

Pardon my curiosity here but is this based on an aerial placed in the jet stream? err wouldn't you require some sort of metallic coated, possibly an army surplus barrage balloon of sorts for this idea, I'm not sure Tesla was thinking it this way ;) :D ;D

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cloud-power-clean-water-and-energy-from-clouds#/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Belfior on November 23, 2019, 06:01:58 AM

Quote from: rakarskiy on November 22, 2019, 08:48:36 AM
I understood why the simulator was counting cosmic results. The bug is fixed and the scheme works closer to reality. The reason was the transformation rate of 99.99% . I put 0.9 and already the scheme works closer to reality. But it is worth thinking about how you can make such a transformer to get an explosion of energy.

http://tinyurl.com/qqkpfrb

A little bit analyzed scheme, changed parameters and received here is such outcome. The transformation ratio of 0.5

http://tinyurl.com/slurvpk
http://tinyurl.com/qp8gudw

That javascript "simulator" is fine when doing small experiments just to see if your idea works at all. For any "real" emulation you need something like LTSpice and proper modules. Even with LTSpice you to do your experiment on the bench, if you are examining some anomaly. Using simulators is a good way to save on parts.

This one guy uses that javascript simulator to prove overunity and I think he just uses a bug in it. Battery or PSU is not even connected and he measures overunity.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: rakarskiy on November 25, 2019, 03:35:31 AM

Quote from: Belfior on November 23, 2019, 06:01:58 AM
That javascript "simulator" is fine when doing small experiments just to see if your idea works at all. For any "real" emulation you need something like LTSpice and proper modules. Even with LTSpice you to do your experiment on the bench, if you are examining some anomaly. Using simulators is a good way to save on parts.

This one guy uses that javascript simulator to prove overunity and I think he just uses a bug in it. Battery or PSU is not even connected and he measures overunity.

you're right, I use the simulator to test the circuits. Give the correct data for the calculation, the simulator will calculate them very close to reality. The error was found, but not in the operation of the scheme, and the input parameters for the calculation. Efficiency = 0.9999 transmission transformer can not be. The error is fixed and the scheme works and runs logically. But we should not forget that now the question here is what you need capacitors? To bring this circuit into working form, capacitors are required capable of passing current without loss. Well, the capacitor with the antenna, probably a single element in the form of a capacitive dome. The most interesting thing is that this scheme works without a spark gap

You can restart or disconnect the antenna or ground yourself. (https://www.falstad.com/circuit/circuitjs.html?cct=$+1+9.499999999999999e-7+69.34413510434165+81+5+50%0Aw+272+384+384+384+3%0Ar+240+320+240+384+0+0.01%0Ac+544+128+480+128+0+0.00009999999999999999+4.387202704920263%0Ac+496+256+496+288+0+0.000009999999999999999+14.938495638186685%0AT+336+224+400+288+0+0.00009999999999999999+0.01+7.384961188177097+-0.22066465252395562+0.5%0Aw+400+256+496+256+3%0Ar+496+288+496+384+0+0.01%0Ar+288+224+336+224+0+0.01%0Ar+480+224+400+224+0+1%0Aw+272+384+240+384+0%0Aw+480+128+288+128+3%0A181+480+224+480+160+0+3371.079088028799+10+24+0.3+0.3%0Ag+464+416+464+464+0%0As+384+416+464+416+0+0+false%0Aw+256+256+336+256+1%0Aw+256+256+240+256+0%0Ax+550+153+566+156+4+24+A%0Ax+-105+137+-89+140+4+24+A%0Aw+496+384+384+384+1%0Ax+-107+211+-91+214+4+24+B%0Ax+295+279+311+282+4+24+B%0A403+624+240+752+304+0+11_64_7_4099_0.078125_0.00625_0_1_160%0Ax+493+203+515+206+4+24+W%0Ax+572+284+594+287+4+24+W%0Aw+384+384+384+416+1%0A403+80+448+208+512+0+24_64_0_4353_5_51.2_0_2_24_3%0AA+656+128+688+128+0+1+40+5+0+0+0.5%0As+576+128+624+128+0+0+false%0Aw+624+128+656+128+2%0Ac+240+256+240+320+0+0.000009999999999999999+28.92553142594024%0Aw+544+128+576+128+1%0A403+80+96+208+160+0+30_64_0_4353_5_51.2_0_2_30_3%0A403+80+176+208+240+0+14_64_0_4097_5_51.2_0_2_14_3%0Ax+-137+480+-84+483+4+24+GND%0Ax+320+410+373+413+4+24+GND%0A403+-64+96+64+160+0+30_64_0_4355_20_51.2_0_2_30_3%0A403+-64+176+64+240+0+14_64_0_4354_160_0.00078125_0_2_14_3%0A403+-64+448+64+512+0+24_64_0_4354_0.0000762939453125_0.003125_0_2_24_3%0A403+-64+272+64+336+0+5_64_0_4354_80_0.1_0_2_5_3%0A403+80+272+208+336+0+5_64_0_4353_5_25.6_0_2_5_3%0Ax+420+280+437+283+4+24+C%0Ax+-113+303+-96+306+4+24+C%0A403+-64+368+64+432+0+10_64_0_4354_40_0.8_0_2_10_3%0A403+80+368+208+432+0+10_64_0_4353_5_51.2_0_2_10_3%0Ax+377+153+394+156+4+24+D%0Ax+-105+402+-88+405+4+24+D%0Aw+288+176+288+224+0%0A403+624+320+752+384+0+11_64_0_4099_80_1.6_0_2_11_3%0A403+624+400+752+464+0+11_64_0_4097_20_1.6_0_2_11_3%0Aw+336+256+336+288+0%0Aw+400+256+400+288+0%0Ac+336+320+400+320+0+0.00001+14.012447858600716%0Aw+480+128+480+160+1%0Aw+288+128+288+176+0%0A403+624+160+752+224+0+52_64_0_4099_40_1.6_0_2_52_3%0Aw+336+288+336+320+0%0Aw+400+288+400+320+0%0A)

Atmospheric electricity has been used before, quite recently. Bloodsuckers shut for us this knowledge. Today, many researchers have come to believe that ancient churches with domes and other structures of this type, generate (or capture) atmospheric electricity. In this scheme, dispose of it in its pure form will not work but in the form of light or heat, it is even possible.
I came to the conclusion that the receiving capacitor and antenna is a single device. At once there were associations with researchers of domes of churches.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Mannix on November 25, 2019, 04:16:56 AM

That drawing looks like the Markovich device , interesting !
Moray alledgedly had something similar .
Keep playing ....who knows?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: densama on November 26, 2019, 11:46:14 PM

hi .... where is magluvin hiding now ? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 27, 2019, 07:24:16 AM

https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=15323 (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=15323)
Can somebody explain me/us what Mr.Dyba means with (P1 - P2)/P1*100 ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: rakarskiy on November 27, 2019, 08:36:00 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on November 27, 2019, 07:24:16 AM
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=15323 (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=15323)
Can somebody explain me/us what Mr.Dyba means with (P1 - P2)/P1*100 ?

Effects = (2W-4W)/2W × 100 = -100% ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on November 27, 2019, 06:34:48 PM

Let me put a gift of thanksgiving ;D ;D Tito 8) :P

TANK TRANSFORMER

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Toolofcortex on November 28, 2019, 01:19:34 AM

Could you make a 3d drawing of this? Kolbacit will attempt a replication.

He will replicate anything and everything.

Like a soldier.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on November 28, 2019, 01:45:52 AM

Intuitively it makes sense

if you keep the polarities right

The field will be larger on the secondary
Happy thanksgiving

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Toolofcortex on November 28, 2019, 01:52:22 AM

Ok happy thanksgiving but it will not make OU.

I bet you ummmm... My laptop?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on November 28, 2019, 01:58:21 AM

"OU", would only occur within a set of explicit frequencies
depending on the size and materials used.

but in general, the magnetic field will be stronger on the output
and the duration will be shorter.
Frequency will remain unchanged, but duration is asymmetrical

Reluctance/ time

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Toolofcortex on November 28, 2019, 02:27:41 AM

I doubt it.

Make a 3d drawing of it, stop debating.

Frequencies are a limitied amount of permutations, Im sure you could try every increment of .1hz^2 + some phase shifting and it would still not do what you say.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Raycathode on November 28, 2019, 09:33:35 AM

Quote from: sm0ky2 on November 28, 2019, 01:58:21 AM
"OU", would only occur within a set of explicit frequencies depending on the size and materials used. In reference to what

but in general, the magnetic field will be stronger on the output and where is this energy you refer coming from?
and the duration will be shorter.
Frequency will remain unchanged, but duration is asymmetrical can you please explain the zest of your statement meaning hear please

Reluctance/ time

Raymondo PS I think my editor has corrected some of your spelling, c'est la vie.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Raycathode on November 29, 2019, 12:20:52 PM

Perhaps in retrospect, you need to look here.
https://overunity.com/7713/effects-of-recirculating-bemf-to-coil/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mr3Xikrgak

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 03, 2019, 01:09:53 AM

Ok Ray

The first point is in reference to advanced material physics that are likely unobtainable
to our readers and will undoubtedly provoke a long unrelated discussion....

The second point: "energy" is not coming from anywhere, it is similar to a transformer
you are trading time (duration) for intensity.

As the 3rd point is concerned:
I will say this - the frequency, if based upon a certain part of the waveform,
let us use the peak for simplicity, remains constant.
The difference is found in the duration (or pulsewidth) of the signal.

E is = E, almost always.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 03, 2019, 01:14:48 AM

Quote from: Raycathode on November 29, 2019, 12:20:52 PM
Perhaps in retrospect, you need to look here.
https://overunity.com/7713/effects-of-recirculating-bemf-to-coil/ (https://overunity.com/7713/effects-of-recirculating-bemf-to-coil/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mr3Xikrgak (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mr3Xikrgak)

While related, and of similar causality, this is quite a different scenario.

As you loop it through the higher impedance, there is a lag
a time dilation, if you will.
so there is a stacking effect.
Net energy/ time remains unchanged.

T is important when looking at Energy.
Energy by itself does nothing.
It is the transfer of Energy over Time that gives us power.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on December 10, 2019, 10:48:38 PM

Hi guys, first post. Heard there was a dude here who pieced something together. I always see riddles and never like a BOM and schematics, and real documentation. I'm not discouraged, because you have to be a bit insane to look at this stuff. It is a pity we can't help each other, but I guess people's analysis has been as weak or delusional that you can get rich off this stuff.

I maintain that we can only evolve, never get rich with money. We can also have a UFO in our basements to remind us there is God. Those are my two reasons for being here. Evolution, and Faith.

Cheers!

XR

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 13, 2020, 09:37:03 PM

Hi!, everyone i think this is it.
I just come here just to help ok.
This is the truth, the power after cut is greater than input simply as that and that
Is the secret, just add more coil thats it.

https://www.google.com/search?q=real+free+energy&client=tablet-android-samsung&prmd=vin&sxsrf=ALeKk03MpDebp4_inEUWGg841o6NzQSmyQ:1584148858431&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjCnumv5pjoAhWpGqYKHfZMD3wQ_AUoAnoECA0QAg#imgrc=YvO-vX83fiTcXM

God bless and goobye
Read the bible for your soul find jesus
Be humble before God and know the real truth ok
Bye love you all.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 14, 2020, 05:59:27 AM

Tito...You have a very different interpretation of Love... than I have been taught.
seems a strange entitlement that leaves your fellow man suffering or dying and you ??
I have no idea who taught you this or how your example should be considered "holy" ??
if you chose to play God with lives...would be better you just make up your own religion ...and not quote others that would cringe at your lifes example..

a more selfish path would be hard to imagine....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: znel on March 14, 2020, 06:20:21 AM

564 pages and 11 years later, the truth becomes pretty obvious....

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on March 14, 2020, 01:39:02 PM

Tito,

That link only takes me to a google search. So the answer is to search google? The main focus on that link is a stripped Bedini circuit - basically using a pulse motor and flyback pulses to charge another battery. >:(

If this is from a guy who supposed to know? I am confused.

So let me divulge one simple thought: No single closed circuit will yield over-unity, it's just not possible. (well... maybe) ;)

If you engineer closed circuits to be an open system, this is probably the likes of Don Smith and Tesla and all others who succeeded. But they were feeding in potential energy from somewhere else. I say potential energy in the scope of viewing kinetic energy, or a magnet in motion as potential energy, even a vibrating metal ball such as the Earth.

Mixing a God into the equation, is not welcome. A holy war, should be defined as people killing each other on the basis of who has the best imaginary friend.

We need to evolve.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on March 14, 2020, 04:15:16 PM

https://youtu.be/UTBGq3EOMMs?t=1010

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 15, 2020, 04:50:27 AM

Love is giving important thing from you to others like
JESUS gave his life for the sake of mankind.
All you have to do is believe in Jesus and repent to God
Ok?,
Sorry i'm running out of time. I don't want to quarrel to anyone ok?
Ok try this again: The selfish unthankfull ramset , oh i mean circuit ;D

Bye everyone
God bless all of you and peace be with you ok? ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on March 15, 2020, 10:41:57 AM

The talk of love is for lovers.

Religion is a method of control so you keep asking if you are worthy to understand. The conversation always gets lost about what we need to understand.

Obviously this site is like others, has no real information - and filled with operatives to confuse you.

Here is some real information: Frequency = 1/[2D/C], where D is the diameter of the Earth, and C is the speed of light, keep the magnitude of terms common. It is Tesla's frequency. Look up pink noise sweeps of the pyramids, find the common resonant frequency multiples, and why beat frequencies can contribute. Now you understand what is important. Now ask yourself why.

good luck

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on March 15, 2020, 11:50:30 AM

Quote from: XR IX on March 15, 2020, 10:41:57 AM
The talk of love is for lovers.

Religion is a method of control so you keep asking if you are worthy to understand. The conversation always gets lost about what we need to understand.

Obviously this site is like others, has no real information - and filled with operatives to confuse you.

Here is some real information: Frequency = 1/[2D/C], where D is the diameter of the Earth, and C is the speed of light, keep the magnitude of terms common. It is Tesla's frequency. Look up pink noise sweeps of the pyramids, find the common resonant frequency multiples, and why beat frequencies can contribute. Now you understand what is important. Now ask yourself why.

good luck

Atleast your post gives a direction that has some sense and method attached to it.and if empirical testing shows results or findings ?
Would be much more useful that the 11 years of crumb dropping... attention seeking and noise posted here.
thx Chet K

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on March 15, 2020, 01:04:33 PM

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23240-the-father-of-all-men-is-340000-years-old/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on March 15, 2020, 03:42:25 PM

Hi Chet,

I saw this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJylD7xpEiU
The person who made the video above wrote a paperback book. And I thought it was opening some doors for me,
and I started rethinking those notion of getting energy from resonance.

It's like using an echo in cave. You get back echo's without ever having to expend the energy in your lungs. Now if you yell out, and time your yells in a cave, you build energy by re-enforcing the wave - we say it is a standing wave. That was Tesla's Earthquake Machine.

Now if you have system that can draw the energy from the output - without affecting the input... you should be in business.

But the point is, you have to engineer a process to do specific tasks. Not create circuits that magically happen to do that. That doesn't mean people can't trip over it accidentally. From what I can remember, Bedini said that he was surprised when his first pulse motor kept running by itself, and I believe he said he wasn't able to re-create that again.

I am not there yet, but hey I found the relationship between Giza and Tesla. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sy1OEsm7io

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 04, 2020, 07:45:59 AM

I came back here to just to help ok!
Here is the secret of free energy.

A B R A M E N K O P L U G

GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU :) 8)

Bye and goodbye ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on May 04, 2020, 09:46:08 AM

Tito,
I hope all is well in your part of the world...
Mr XR-X1 guy above makes a good contribution towards understanding a possible gain mechanism,and honestly your "plug" a nice small tester for this.
You play games with peoples lives ...hope your having fun.

Chet K

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on May 06, 2020, 01:57:08 PM

XR IX

QuoteIt's like using an echo in cave. You get back echo's without ever having to expend the energy in your lungs. Now if you yell out, and time your yells in a cave, you build energy by re-enforcing the wave - we say it is a standing wave. That was Tesla's Earthquake Machine.

Now if you have system that can draw the energy from the output - without affecting the input... you should be in business.

Your analogy is good but incomplete.

A better analogy is that we would yell into the cave and time it with the echo and with each echo all the bats in the cave would move. Understand, we did not create the bats nor have we moved them, they moved themselves which is energy due to our very small excitation. This bat cave analogy is the basic concept of free energy and resonance is simply a better way to reduce our input increasing efficiency.

As well, Tesla's Earthquake Machine was simply a very efficient oscillator. It didn't dissipate large amounts of energy but conserved it so the pulse strength could grow larger with each impulse. When the strength of the impulses became very large it started tearing stuff apart. The lesson here is not so much resonant oscillations but conserving the energy present and building it up to extreme levels. It is the extreme level of energy present which tears stuff apart not simply oscillations.

Think of nuclear fusion, a small energy input releases a larger amount of energy. Where did the energy come from?, the input only excited something already present which contained more energy. Thus we did not create energy we simply used the input to transform something already present and the transformation released a larger amount of energy. Nothing can be created or destroyed only transformed... this is the way.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on May 07, 2020, 12:26:14 AM

Quote from: onepower on May 06, 2020, 01:57:08 PM

As well, Tesla's Earthquake Machine was simply a very efficient oscillator. It didn't dissipate large amounts of energy but conserved it so the pulse strength could grow larger with each impulse. When the strength of the impulses became very large it started tearing stuff apart. The lesson here is not so much resonant oscillations but conserving the energy present and building it up to extreme levels. It is the extreme level of energy present which tears stuff apart not simply oscillations.

Think of nuclear fusion, a small energy input releases a larger amount of energy. Where did the energy come from?, the input only excited something already present which contained more energy. Thus we did not create energy we simply used the input to transform something already present and the transformation released a larger amount of energy. Nothing can be created or destroyed only transformed... this is the way.

Regards

onepower, I think you have many good points, and one bad one.

Conservation of Momentum [Good]: Tesla did say that you can store the energy, so think of this we can create an almost perfect storage of energy. If you think of how efficient batteries are you see the genius in what Tesla made.

Quote from: Nikola Tesla
I do so, but I prefer to reduce those waves in quantity and pass a current into the earth, because electromagnetic wave energy is not recoverable while that [earth] current is entirely recoverable, being the energy stored in an elastic system

Unknown Impact to Earth's Dynamics [Good]: I think Tesla came up with some system, but of course with the mentality of his time, he couldn't grasp the environmental impact. As you said he built an Earth quake machine, but didn't know it could bring down a building or split the Earth, change the rotation, many unforeseen consequences that today we can model and theorize impact.

But would it destroy the Earth when the process happens in everyday:

Quote from: Nikola Tesla
Many times, in regularly recurring intervals, the same actions were repeated until the storm which, as evident from simple computations, was moving with nearly constant speed, had retreated to a distance of about three hundred kilometers. Nor did these strange actions stop then, but continued to manifest themselves with undiminished force. Subsequently, similar observations were also made by my assistant, Mr. Fritz Lowenstein, and shortly afterward several admirable opportunities presented themselves which brought out, still more forcibly, and unmistakably, the true nature of the wonderful phenomenon. No doubt, whatever remained: I was observing stationary waves.

I think you maybe a little off on your nuclear fusion theory [Bad]: From what I gather from typical cafeteria talk fusion theory (which is truly out of my depth) nuclear fusion doesn't take a little amount of energy... and that's why all don't have one in our basement (unless you are Taylor Wilson). A thermonuclear bomb takes a fission bomb to compress and heat the deuterium and/or other fancy hydrogen isotopes in the second stage fusion reaction. So it seems a fourteen year old can create bursts of energy to make a fusion reaction happen, but making it happen requires sustained power. I like thinking about this stuff, but in the end, they had the answer in Cold Fusion, and das kapoot

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 09, 2020, 05:34:31 AM

Quote from: ramset on May 04, 2020, 09:46:08 AM
Tito,
I hope all is well in your part of the world...
Mr XR-X1 guy above makes a good contribution towards understanding a possible gain mechanism,and honestly your "plug" a nice small tester for this.
You play games with peoples lives ...hope your having fun.

Chet K

>:( i 'm not playing games with peoples!!,
Ok, i'm telling the truth!!!
And this is actually tesla is
Trying to say to the world.
You know what , you destroy someone just because you don't know.
What ever!!! ;D
https://youtu.be/JxAMNzlUFFE (https://youtu.be/JxAMNzlUFFE)
https://youtu.be/6ymnKOFYj6I

This is the truth! Start from small into an avalanche. ;)
i will not post anymore, cause you just makes me
Bad!!!
Bye! ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on May 09, 2020, 06:06:26 AM

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on May 09, 2020, 03:35:50 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 09, 2020, 05:34:31 AM
>:( i 'm not playing games with peoples!!,
Ok, i'm telling the truth!!!
And this is actually tesla is
Trying to say to the world.
You know what , you destroy someone just because you don't know.
What ever!!! ;D
https://youtu.be/JxAMNzlUFFE (https://youtu.be/JxAMNzlUFFE)
https://youtu.be/6ymnKOFYj6I

This is the truth! Start from small into an avalanche. ;)
i will not post anymore, cause you just makes me
Bad!!!
Bye! ;D

Kamusta Tito,

Have you posted any diagrams, schematics, Bill of Materials needed to make a device?
Do you have a video of a functioning system perhaps?

[Disagree] Actually Tesla wasn't saying that at all. In fact it's that thought process that drives people down dead-end research. People end up building Tesla Coil devices, thinking that resonance alone arbitrarily creates over unity. That is in no way true, it wasn't true for Tesla. Tesla struggled to find a way to harness the energy from the ambient, he called it it ether.

IMHO He had two different ideas:

1) To store energy in a capacitor he built up, and release it in small duty cycle pulses. When you do that once across a transformer primary, you generate oscillations that you get for free.

Quote from: Nikola Tesla
Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.

2) His TMT was actually using energy from a standing wave, but it is a system like an air-conditioner is a system - Not a single circuit. He wasn't using #1 and said so.

Quote from: Nikola Tesla
Counsel

Did you find that that was the best condition for transmitting energy without the use of wire?

Tesla

No, I did not use that method when I was transmitting energy. I used it only in the production of those freaks for which I have been called a magician. If I had used merely undamped waves, I would have been an ordinary electrician like everybody else.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on May 10, 2020, 12:39:39 PM

Please remember the Latin phrase:

QuoteCaveat emptor

let the buyer beware

Read, ask questions and comprehend what Nikola Tesla was trying to do.

Read this first: http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art08.html (http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art08.html)
pay attention after "...It was on the third of July--the date I shall never forget..."

Then read this: http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art07.html (http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art07.html)

If you comprehend what he is doing, I think you'll agree that you can take device that looks fairly simple (e.g. Kapanadze, Don Smith device) because they are only parts of systems, and claim that the device is producing free energy, because it is attached to the load. That would be like looking at a lamp, and flipping the switch and saying the switch is producing free energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Thaelin on May 12, 2020, 08:22:50 PM

@XR IX
Yours is a fresh look at things. Tesla was a wonder in his own time. He was sadly used by the typical system for the gains of money and power as usual. As time passes, more of the meanings of what Tesla was about comes to light. I was not privy to the site you posted just now. There are scattered writings and videos of his life and works. There seems to be a wealth of things at the link. The more you look through his eyes, the more understandings you have of how things work. Late in life, he did realize that the system had no place for some of his advancements. In fact, the US raided his his room and took all his records to make sure they had only certain stuff so as to have an advantage. He was a very complex person and saw things in vastly different ways than the layman.
I myself sometimes have much grief trying to understand what he is trying to convey. It takes a while and some experiments to see just what is really going on. Had he been a businessman and the inventor of his time, he would have made JP Morgan look like small change and we would live in quite different circumstances for sure. The world would be vastly different.
That is why the next great leap in technology can only be given free to the world as a whole and not try to see how much money I can make.

My thanks for linking this place for us to read.

thay

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on May 12, 2020, 09:06:15 PM

It is sad to see what happened to Tesla despite his love and innovative approach to helping man kind, but have to be pragmatic about the mechanisms that caused his problems. We have to accept that anything written or presented may be just distraction to obfuscate the truth. I followed Don Smith's works for a number of years, and realized there must be missing pieces to what we now have access to. We analyse with reasonable doubt that what we see is not pristine and has been altered.

The weakness of humanity is greed, and it is that alone that deprived us to the solutions presented by Tesla and Don Smith (and many others) it was their own greed. Not someone like J.P. Morgan, but by their act of simply not sharing.

We can evolve. I may not be able to build these devices and show you a video, that would be pointless anyway, as it would get tossed in the pile of garbage faked videos. I can't show you a schematic, because versions would appear to taint the information.

I can show you my ideas, and welcome the challenge of those theories... because I could be wrong.

Then again I may be right ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 12, 2020, 09:31:33 PM

Ah. Tito is back. Still around here ehh?
If the Avramenko plug is part of it, then what we would need is an LC circuit, or a bifilar coil, as it is a coil with more capacitance built in, and a way to pulse the coil so that it oscillates at high freq and use the Av plug to extract energy from the oscillating coil to a capacitor.

I would imagine that using the av plug on 1 wire end of the LC or Bifi coil. The pulsing to keep the coil in resonance is what the output of the AV plug would have to output to keep that part of the circuit going for a basic self runner.
Ive been working on some bifi coils lately but I havnt tried to use an av plug to extract from the oscillations. Will have to try that.
Not sure what freq of oscillations Tito is thinking about. Never gives those details as many times as I have asked.

Ive been trying to use Teslas Igniter for gas engines patent to drive the bifilar oscillations. In the patent the cap is charged up via a collapsing field of the 'large' inductance of Teslas circuit. But I am using the large inductance to charge up the bifi coil capacitance and then shorting the 2 series windings. Using a secondary coil to extract from the oscillations kills off the oscillations very quickly. So maybe the AV plug is the answer.
Here are some vids I have done on the Igniter pat circuit. Typical points ign system uses about 70w and the coil will heat up. With the Igniter circuit I have reduced that to less than 1w with just as good of a spark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkdIDbiCxTM&t=2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgDbBsA15C4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IafARcXrTs4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTzab0CnBIo
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 12, 2020, 09:35:57 PM

Depending on the large inductor I use, my input of 4v is getting the oscillation of the bifi( actually a trifi 3 wires for other testing) to over 500v. So maybe the AV plug may work. Have to try
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 14, 2020, 09:21:55 PM

Here is the trifi coil. Made the bobbin with a Creality ender 3 pro 3d printer. For the Ecore I have, the printed bobbin length is short to fit a second thin bobbin for a secondary output, and or even a drive coil to fit the inner core length snug.
8 layers 3 wire 26ga. While playing one day, my scope on the output had shown some very good output in a particular config. But after a few seconds it would drizzle down and stay down. But if I shut it down and power it up later, it was great output then drizzle. I found that in that config, the coil capacitance was charging and privided diminishing output as it charged. I have 3 windings. So I wasnt sure what was happening yet. So for some reason I pulled a pin out of the circuit and happened to touch another pin of the 3rd winding, and the scope jumped back up. So that lead me to charging the coils capacitance first, just 2 open ended windings, then just short the 1 series ends and it gives a nice high voltage oscillation. Doesnt take much to charge the coil capacitance as it is a pretty small value, so ive gotten into using a large inductor of much higher ohms than the bifi or trifi coil and pulse the large inductor and use its field collapse to charge the bifi capacitance to a high voltage and short the ends in a timely manner. I was surprised actually how long the bifi capacitance would hold its charge before I would short the pins when I first got on to this.
Not saying it is anything yet, but it is a cool deal to integrate the Tesla Igniter circuit and the Coil for electromagnets bifi coil.
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on May 15, 2020, 08:31:11 AM

"Measure the distance in centimeters between the electrodes in the spark gap with the ruler. For a spark plug, slide the gapping tool into the gap until it fits snugly, then read the gap distance on the tool.

Key in the number of centimeters into the calculator. Press the multiply key. Enter 30,000. Press the equals key. The result is the voltage required to produce a spark in the gap. For example, if you measure 1 millimeter, first convert to centimeters. At ten millimeters per centimeter, you'll have .1 centimeter. Multiply .1 by 30,000 to get 3,000 volts".

It looks like Magluvin's setup is generating "Stun Gun" mega range voltage! I bought a solid state 12 volt to 500,000 volt transformer from China that works that way.

The limitation to this circuit is the lengthy charge rate of the primary capacitor and the low frequency of operation. My transformer operates at or below one 1 Hertz frequency. The "Gray Tube" predicament.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 15, 2020, 08:07:26 PM

In my vids I used a capacitor bell ringer config on the relay to create a purposeful time delay so for each spark event we could see that there were multiple sparks in the conventional points circuit, using an actual points condenser to enable the coil to oscillate as an LC once the points open. I can change the timing for much faster spark events but the pics and vid would show it more like a stream wandering around the spark terminals. The large inductor as long as there is periodic (points closed) current, it basically keeps conducting in the same direction throughout the operation period at faster switch losing speeds. The large inductor is not like 5kohm. The one in the vid is 46ohm compared to 1ohm spark coil primary. So once the circuit is going, the inductor loads up the caps pretty quick. Its a .2uf ignition condenser used for the standard points circuit and the Igniter circuit. At these freq shown would be very low rpms compared to an actual spark timing event on an engine, so the inductor is charging the cap to full potential before the spark event occurs. When it gets up in freq, the inductor is conducting more continuously. Without the condenser in the standard circuit, the spark is 1 thin pip only sometimes. So possibly many guys that just go with electronic ign modules in place of points may not know that the condenser was bad. ;) Both the original point system with a good condenser and the Igniter circuit produce real multiple spark ign due to resonance of the LC in each case. The main difference is the 46ohms of the large inductor in series with the 1ohm spark coil primary. So that reduction in current compared to the standard points circuit that holds 12v batt across the spark coil primary at 1ohm for a longer period that the points are open is big. So calculate the input power for each case and that is where you see the advantage of the igniter circuit. In my measurements the cap in the standard circuit reaches near 100vac when in oscillation with the primary when the points open. So the igniter circuit, you find a large inductor that will charge the cap to near 100v then when the points close, that charged cap is across the spark primary giving virtually the same conditions to produce the nearly same oscillations and spark, but for a small fraction of the input in comparison.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on May 15, 2020, 08:36:56 PM

a magnet in the core of the large inductor should amplify the flyback charge to the capacitor like brad's magnet core coils.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 15, 2020, 09:03:45 PM

Quote from: synchro1 on May 15, 2020, 08:36:56 PM
a magnet in the core of the large inductor should amplify the flyback charge to the capacitor like brad's magnet core coils.

Using a magnet to bias a coil makes the coil act differently depending on the direction of current. If the current creates an opposing field compared to the bias magnet, the coil will have to produce more field strength before reaching saturation. If the current is in the other direction where the coils field is in attraction to the bias magnet, the coil will reach max current sooner. Sort of a say soft rectification action. There are magnet biased cores(example Hitachi) that the magnet added allows the coil to store more energy with a smaller core. Like a simple boost converter switching supply. There is no extra energy by adding the magnet. It takes more input to reach that new upper level of energy stored, same as with a larger core. When the magnet is biased in attraction with the coils field, the coil sees a much quicker saturation due to the 'added' magnet flux that already exists..
Mags

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on May 16, 2020, 08:51:10 AM

"The use of permanent magnets for introducing bias magnetization in DC inductors is a known technique for extending the saturation current limit and accordingly reducing the required inductor´s size".

So the flyback is amplified because the coil stores more power with the magnet, and we pay for the amplification with additional input.

Nevertheless, the magnet should add power to the spark!

Have you thought about coupling the Igniter with a "Gray Tube"?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 16, 2020, 10:34:31 AM

Quote from: synchro1 on May 16, 2020, 08:51:10 AM
"The use of permanent magnets for introducing bias magnetization in DC inductors is a known technique for extending the saturation current limit and accordingly reducing the required inductor´s size".

So the flyback is amplified because the coil stores more power with the magnet, and we pay for the amplification with additional input.

Nevertheless, the magnet should add power to the spark!

Have you thought about coupling the Igniter with a "Gray Tube"?

or you could use a larger core for the same benefit.
Never messed with the Gray Tube. Some blue ones maybe. ;D
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 16, 2020, 12:53:46 PM

Mags, where is the amplification to all these things you're showing?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 16, 2020, 08:17:22 PM

Quote from: Leely on May 16, 2020, 12:53:46 PM
Mags, where is the amplification to all these things you're showing?

Well Im not sure yet that things will work out as we might want them to. But trying. First I think that there is amplification by way of resonance, just need a better more eff way to extract that energy, and we charge up the bifi capacitance via the igniter circuit, which is undisputedly more eff than the standard points system, and if the AV plug is an eff way to extract from the bifi oscillations rather than using a secondary(pickup coil) output coil, then may be it could be good. need to see. Just finished putting a subwoofer in a cust car, lexus es350. The car is a sonic black hole to bass in the trunk. Open the trunk and it is louder in the car. Close it and doesnt seem worth it for what is invested and involvement. But it wasnt my work that was bad. Lexus makes a very sound dead interior environment, Moved the sub box left, right, flip it, move it closer to the rear seat, then to the far rear, which was best for what it was. The car is a loss for the system. like it needs more woofers and amplification.
Did a lexus some years ago and we made a vented box where the face of the woofer was aiming at the rear seat arm rest opening when the armrest was down and small walls that sealed the pressure to the opening of the armrest, and the ports of the box were directed to the same little camber opening of the seat armrest opening to the trunk. Now that lexus made it so you need to use the bathroom soon after a jam session. All concentrated into the cabin and no pressures in the trunk.
So just like with this combobulation of coils and switching, etc, Im using things that I know and combining them for best efficiency and ways to avoid heavy losses like I did in the lexus years ago, to see what it might produce if anything. Hope to have time tonight to fiddle.

In the 90s, some lexus had 2 front firewalls and the space between them was filled with sand. One of the installers back then was drilling the firewall to run an amplifier power wire to the battery. Like a cursed tomb in egypt, the sand slowly filled the driver side floor. Lexus charged I believe it was 1700 to fix it.

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on May 16, 2020, 08:37:20 PM

Hmm,Lexus as https://www.google.com/search?q=hohlraumresonator&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=hohlraumresonator&aqs=chrome..69i57.8774j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=hohlraumresonator&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=hohlraumresonator&aqs=chrome..69i57.8774j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) ::)

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&q=kavit%C3%A4t+physik&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjmvJDH07npAhW0BWMBHVqtDCAQ1QIoBXoECBEQBg&biw=1366&bih=636 (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&q=kavit%C3%A4t+physik&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjmvJDH07npAhW0BWMBHVqtDCAQ1QIoBXoECBEQBg&biw=1366&bih=636) ;)

noise-acoustics
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&q=kavit%C3%A4t+akustik&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-iLrw07npAhVMcBQKHeg8AwAQ1QIoBHoECAsQBQ&biw=1366&bih=636 (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&q=kavit%C3%A4t+akustik&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-iLrw07npAhVMcBQKHeg8AwAQ1QIoBHoECAsQBQ&biw=1366&bih=636)

specific vehicle
https://books.google.pt/books?id=8j_AVPFMX5UC&pg=PA111&lpg=PA111&dq=kavit%C3%A4t+akustik&source=bl&ots=DjjzmYzghw&sig=ACfU3U0HneaTyaD3R2gbskkKm967xNnvGg&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiA_oaO1LnpAhXn1uAKHTtfDDIQ6AEwBHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=kavit%C3%A4t%20akustik&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=8j_AVPFMX5UC&pg=PA111&lpg=PA111&dq=kavit%C3%A4t+akustik&source=bl&ots=DjjzmYzghw&sig=ACfU3U0HneaTyaD3R2gbskkKm967xNnvGg&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiA_oaO1LnpAhXn1uAKHTtfDDIQ6AEwBHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=kavit%C3%A4t%20akustik&f=false)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 16, 2020, 09:03:33 PM

In this vid I did some time ago, I express what I mean about belief in resonance. In switching power supply design books, they say to use an inductor or transformer that has a self resonance up to and beyond 10 times the freq of the circuit design. basically to stay away from resonance 10 paces or more!! ;D Manufactured inductors and transformers have specs on their resonant freq. So what would happen if we operated them at that spec freq instead? This is what this vid tries to inspire in the viewers mind. Watch the whole thing and listen. Notice that any drive action that is not at or near the resonant freq of the pendulum vibrator, that this is all the output you will get from the input, just like a normal transformer....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVEmF_J_f3s

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 16, 2020, 10:37:09 PM

Yeah, but you need to amplify first before using resonance. Resonance is a way of adding efficiency in other to reduce loses. Resonance on it's own, is not an amplifier, but it aids amplification, and it's normally used in lc circuits.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 16, 2020, 11:15:54 PM

Ok. Just tried the av plug with 1n5399g diodes and a 22uf cap. Pic shows the combobulation using magnet rotor and reed to do the switching at the moment. Made a half bridge mosfet driver for the cheap square wave gens i had bought. Working on 2 other dr boards to use here.
The 22uf cap charges fast surprisingly. dont think Ive ever seen one charge that fast. Will do a vid tomorrow if I have time. just a quick spin of the wheel and it was over 200v. 100v cap. Need to make one with higher voltage caps.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 16, 2020, 11:16:44 PM

Quote from: Leely on May 16, 2020, 10:37:09 PM
Yeah, but you need to amplify first before using resonance. Resonance is a way of adding efficiency in other to reduce loses. Resonance on it's own, is not an amplifier, but it aids amplification, and it's normally used in lc circuits.

So then what is your version of how to amplify exactly?
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 17, 2020, 01:29:12 AM

Let me still clarify something that I know. Resonance works well with circuits that have secondary, or circuits that have what we call second coil. It only bridge loses between the primary and the secondary coils. So if you're putting 100% in your primary, with resonance, you can take 90 something percent from your secondary, than when you don't have resonance, depending on how you build the circuit. But a circuit that amplifies could be added resonance to bring out it's best, if it needs it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 17, 2020, 02:22:59 AM

Tesla made a tapper device that shook a multi story building. So in his mind I believe he knew that the amount of energy that was stored in the buildings movement, once it was at say max of where he would not let it happen any further, that there was more energy happening in the shaking building than the total amount of energy it took to get that building shaking. Does that sound about right?

So I believe he knew that the energy of the vibrating building had more than enough energy to wind up the spring in the tapper box to do it all over again with most likely some energy left over. Is this not what he was trying to convey?

So thats my path. For some time now. Over the years I have had this on my mind and how might we be able to harness that. Most of the things you bring about by way of the use of LC circuits and resonance, has nothing to do with trying to work and look for a potential gain. Anyone that doesnt have OU or FE on their mind may never even give the idea a thought or even try because they have different goals for their use of these circuits in whatever they do.

One thing I found about a series connected bifi coil some time back is that it can be set into resonance by way of just 1 wire that has a changing voltage potential at the freq of the coils resonance. Doesnt even have to be high voltage. That little cheap square wave gen in the pic can get the bifi rolling 1 wire. You can take a cig lighter that has a quartz sparker instead of flint, remove it from the lighter, and just spark it into the air an inch or 2 away from the coil and it will ring fairly good from that impulse.

Now i am working the bifi as first a capacitor where the 2 bifi windings are not connected at all to each other, charge that capacitance, then short out the 2 bifi leads to then make it series connected(still open ended on the other ends of each winding) and she rings hard. Now Im using the third winding with only one end connected to the AV plug and that cap charges pretty darn fast with only one wire to the av plug and the other end of the winding is open! Next is to put another av plug on the open end of that winding to charge 2 caps. Im guessing that both caps will charge faster than when it was just 1 av plug. Can you imagine why I might think that? ??? I think that because I believe I know how and why the av plug works in these configurations, and knowing that should give the answer as to why 2, one av plug on each end of the winding, may charge faster than one connected like I said above. ;)

Below is the circuit of what I had shown above on the bench. The diode on the blue heat sink(unnecessary in this circuit, just happened to be on the diode) in the diagram is correct but not in the pic above as shown. The diode just kept things going in one direction with long periods of switch off time while I was trying things using the reed sw and the rotor. Once the switching circuits are fin for this, there will be no time for reversals of current between switching times as the large inductor will be conducting forward at all times as the time will be very short in comparison. The circuit in Sim below doesnt actually work as the app doesnt recognize bifi, trifi coil conditions and functions. It is just for your benefit to see the circuit. The 3 inductors signify the trifi coil and how it is connected.

I think it is interesting stuff. ;D ;)

mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on May 17, 2020, 02:47:40 AM

"One thing I found about a series connected bifi coil some time back is that it can be set into resonance by way of just 1 wire that has a changing voltage potential at the freq of the coils resonance. Doesnt even have to be high voltage. That little cheap square wave gen in the pic can get the bifi rolling 1 wire".

My "Series connected Intercom twin bifi coil" resonating spontaneously:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN7CLrfQgIk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN7CLrfQgIk)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on May 17, 2020, 03:22:25 AM

Here are some pictures of the "Gray Tube":

The inside carbon rod "Igniter Spark" acts as a transistor gate for the outside D.C. "Screen Electrodes". Notice the small D.C. fan and optic cutter for pulse control at the bottom. The battery is connected to the screens and the HV to the carbon rod electrodes in the center.

The resulting A.C.+ D.C. fusion generates a "Plasma Event". The capacitive energy is stored in a HV capacitor, then "popped" into a heavy inductor. The very powerful magnetic pulse can fire a projectile. There are videos of this awesome force!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: trewq on May 17, 2020, 04:23:26 AM

@Tito L. Oracion, I remember you once, years ago, asked for an information about using, I guess, hydrogen peroxide for healing purposes. Have you found this info? Recently you can find lot of this kind of info on the net (oral, intravenous, etc.). I uploaded several books treating about health and my recommendation is "Primal Panacea" by Thomas Levy MD which is about vitamin C application in health (believe it or not, vitamin C in very high doses has power to cure cancer, poisons, venoms, etc.)
Sorry for disturbing this thread with information out of subject, but I did this for Tito, and I guess I'll find him just here most probably since this thread is Tito's thread, anyway; Tito started it eleven years ago.
Somehow I have difficulties using my old name (Qwert), so I had to make another account here.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on May 17, 2020, 04:45:27 AM

Here's a "Gray Tube" DC +&- screen positions. The HV carbon rod air gap in the center is closer then the distance between the rods and the inside screen:

The HV carbon arc spark discharge ionizes the air dielectric between the screen electrodes reducing the resistance and causing a huge "Emerald Green" D.C. plasma spark to jump across the screens!

A microwave diode connected to the positive screen electrode sends the power to a HV storage capacitor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 17, 2020, 05:35:43 AM

Quote from: trewq on May 17, 2020, 04:23:26 AM
@Tito L. Oracion, I remember you once, years ago, asked for an information about using, I guess, hydrogen peroxide for healing purposes. Have you found this info? Recently you can find lot of this kind of info on the net (oral, intravenous, etc.). I uploaded several books treating about health and my recommendation is "Primal Panacea" by Thomas Levy MD which is about vitamin C application in health (believe it or not, vitamin C in very high doses has power to cure cancer, poisons, venoms, etc.)
Sorry for disturbing this thread with information out of subject, but I did this for Tito, and I guess I'll find him just here most probably since this thread is Tito's thread, anyway; Tito started it eleven years ago.
Somehow I have difficulties using my old name (Qwert), so I had to make another account here.
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:D hi qwert! I was supposedly not to post here anymore, because everytime i make
A post, i was just insulted inspite of i thought i was helping
But your post is different so I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT SIR THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITS A BIG HELP FOR ME. :)

YOU ARE NOT DISTURBING HERE SIR YOU ARE MOST
WELCOME HERE SIR! :)

It is very sad though that there is only one solution
About moray,hubbard, steven marks working engine
In 11 years of my research and development i found only
One real solution and this is ,maybe the reason why
Free energy developer cannot give the real woking engine because
Of its simplicity and its just one.
BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS , MY HINTS ARE REAL AND TRUTH. :)

WELL AGAIN THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR
I JUST CROSSED TO ANSWER YOU and maybe this is my last post seriously
Well lets see ;D

Bye buddy
GOD BLESS AND TAKE CARE ABOUT THE VIRUS ;)
I'm an asmathic person hope i can survive if i got infected. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 17, 2020, 07:36:49 AM

Well, Tito, there's something I have to say. I wanted to say long time, but I didn't. But let me say it. Give your device and be blessed for it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on May 17, 2020, 12:43:31 PM

coil popping only possible with the hybrid discharge; notice the green hue to the spark; the green spark is visible in this ev gray pulse motor video too;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rFjrPo9mws (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rFjrPo9mws)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on May 17, 2020, 02:46:01 PM

Related "Plasma" :

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=krupa+spark+plug&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwji2vOLzLvpAhUi2uAKHcVmDdAQsAR6BAgGEAE&biw=1366&bih=636 (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=krupa+spark+plug&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwji2vOLzLvpAhUi2uAKHcVmDdAQsAR6BAgGEAE&biw=1366&bih=636)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGcqDd83hbw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGcqDd83hbw)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6bz0o6Lth4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6bz0o6Lth4) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQFx1jmgiic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQFx1jmgiic)

https://www.google.com/search?q=krupa+spark+plugh&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=krupa+spark+plugh&aqs=chrome..69i57.9125j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=krupa+spark+plugh&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=krupa+spark+plugh&aqs=chrome..69i57.9125j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

"The central electrode has been changed from a cylindrical post to a hemispherical dome,surrounded by four arched electrodes, each of which being positioned at a constant distancefrom the hemisphere. Nikola Tesla was using "orbs" on spark gaps over a hundred years ago.He found that orbs hold the highest amount of charge.(sharp points holding the least)." ~Robert Krupa

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6060822A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US6060822A/en)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwXApkLhbc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwXApkLhbc)

2005 https://losangelesjournal.com/firestorm-the-first-space-age-spark-plug/ (https://losangelesjournal.com/firestorm-the-first-space-age-spark-plug/)

2007 https://overunity.com/3308/robert-krupas-firestorm-spark-plugsplasma-generating-mini-tesla-coils/ (https://overunity.com/3308/robert-krupas-firestorm-spark-plugsplasma-generating-mini-tesla-coils/)

https://thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/884624-plasma-ignitions-krupa-firestorm-plugs/ (https://thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/884624-plasma-ignitions-krupa-firestorm-plugs/)

The thing that always gets me, is that Tesla ALWAYS used domes and orbs because they are the best conductors of electricity. He stood behind the fact that a fine point is actually the worst shape to conduct as well.
The firestorm plugs are said to never misfire due to the dome/cage design because when one area becomes ionized, which would usually cause a misfire on a standard plug, the spark logically just switches to a different spot along the cage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PspgwbkcSeM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PspgwbkcSeM)

https://www.greenoptimistic.com/ford-laser-spark-plug-20090806/ (https://www.greenoptimistic.com/ford-laser-spark-plug-20090806/)

igniter energy source ? : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scaggwv8Cms (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scaggwv8Cms) nice comments ::)

https://thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/884624-plasma-ignitions-krupa-firestorm-plugs/ (https://thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/884624-plasma-ignitions-krupa-firestorm-plugs/) how many spark plughs as STAR-set for output-Delta ? Clearly Lambda relativity !

Fine tuning : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_speaker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_speaker)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=6496448B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20021217&DB=EPODOC&locale=de_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=6496448B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20021217&DB=EPODOC&locale=de_EP)

Applicant has made a series of tests, using different voltage waveforms, to evaluate the operation of applicant's transducers such as the transducers shown in FIGS. 1 and 4. Applicant utilized alternating voltages having sine waveforms, triangular waveforms and square waveforms (such as shown in FIG. 2) in these tests. In these tests, the sine waveform, the triangular waveform and the square waveform had substantially the same peak amplitude. To applicant's surprise, the alternating voltage having a square waveform generated increases in power output from the transducers that were orders of magnitude greater than the power output, obtained from the sine and triangular waveforms. For example, this increase in power output was as much as ten (10) times or fifteen (15) times greater than the power output generated by voltages with the sine and triangular waveforms.[/font][/size]The increase in the power output of the transducers 10 and 20 is dependent upon how far the transducer is operating in the earth from the resonant frequency of the transducer (when disposed in air). The power increase of the transducer is extended over a wide frequency range of harmonics and overtones compared to the power generated in the earth by the transducer at the fundamental resonant frequency of the transducer (this fundamental resonant frequency being determined when the transducer is operated in air). The increase in power output over the significant range of harmonics and overtones significantly increased the apparent bandwidth when the transducer operated in the earth as the impedance provided by the earth varied at different positions in the earth.The transducers tested had either a two inch (2'') diameter or a four inch (4'') diameter. They had a relatively high mechanical Q. For example, the transducers had a mechanical Q in the range of fourteen (14) to eighteen (18). The tools were internally pressurized to one hundred pounds per square inch (100 psi) and were hung inside a plastic test tank with a twelve inch (12'') outer diameter. A sound meter was placed on the outside of the tank with the microphone tangent to the surface of the test tank. Since applicant had no way of measuring absolute values in water and no way of correcting for reflection and standing waves over the frequency range of the harmonics and overtones of the fundamental frequency, the most reliable and repeatable method of testing for sine waveform voltage testing and square waveform voltage testing appeared to be the method of testing with a sound meter.As will be seen from the chart shown in FIG. 3a, when a voltage with a square waveform was applied to the transducer, the high mechanical Q of the transducer produced many powerful harmonics and overtones that were either non-existent or greatly attenuated when the transducer was powered with an alternating voltage with a sine waveform. This may be seen from the different columns in the chart shown in FIG. 3a. The first column in FIG. 3a indicates the characteristics of the voltage waveform and indicates "sine" (sine wave) for first alternate rows and "square" (square wave) for the other alternate rows. The second column in FIG. 3 indicates the frequency (in hertz) of one of the components in the waveform. As will be seen, the fundamental frequency is 200 hertz.The third (3<rd>) column in FIG. 3a indicates the peak amplitude value of the input voltage to the transducer. As will be seen, the current in the transducer member is considerably greater at the fundamental frequency, the harmonics and the overtones for the square wave voltage than for the sine wave voltage. Furthermore, the current at the fundamental frequency of 200 hertz for the square wave voltage exceeded the current at the fundamental frequency for the sine wave voltage. The current at the harmonic and overtone frequencies for the square wave voltage in many cases exceeded the current at the same harmonic and overtone frequencies for the sine wave voltage. The fourth (4th) column in FIG. 3a indicates the current in the transducer in milliamperes.The fifth (5th) column in FIG. 3a is designated as "power in". It indicates the power input to the transducer. It will be noted that the power input to the transducer is considerably greater at the fundamental frequency, the harmonics and the overtones for the square waveform than for the sine waveform. The sixth (6th) column in FIG. 3a indicates the power output from the transducer, as measured by the sound pressure of the output waves. As will be seen the power output is much greater at the fundamental frequency, the harmonics and the overtones for the square wave voltage than for the sine wave voltage. This is through a range of frequencies between the fundamental frequency of 200 hertz and an overtone of 950 hertz. This is consistently true of every frequency between the range of 200-950 hertz.FIG. 3b is a chart similar to that shown in FIG. 3a but involves a peak voltage of 200 volts for the sine wave voltage and the square wave voltage. The six (6) columns in FIG. 3b have the same headings as the headings for the corresponding columns shown in FIG. 3a. The chart shown in FIG. 3b extends only between 600 hertz and 900 hertz. The reason is that no signal could be obtained for the sine wave voltage between 200 hertz and 550 hertz. In this frequency range, the sound meter had a reading of 73 db, which corresponded to the ambient noise level in the test facility. However, the square wave over the frequency range of 200-550 hertz did respond significantly over this frequency range as indicated by sound pressure readings of 97 db to 101 db for the different frequencies. Furthermore, significant increases in power output occurred for the square wave voltage in the harmonics and overtones over the frequency range of 600 hertz to 900 hertz in comparison to the power output for the sine wave voltage over this range of frequencies.The reasons for the differences in the output from the transducer at the harmonics and overtones between the application of a square wave voltage and a sine wave voltage to the transducer, through an extended frequency range of 200 hertz to 950 hertz, are not known. However, the differences in the power output at the harmonics and overtones through an extended frequency range such as 200-950 hertz are surprising and unexpected. This is particularly surprising and unexpected in view of the large range of frequencies through which the large power outputs are obtained. Such differences may result from changes in the characteristics of the earth at different positions below the earth's surface. The differences are even more surprising and unexpected at overtones of the fundamental frequency than at harmonics of the fundamental frequency. As will be seen, the power output at the overtone frequencies for the square wave voltage often exceeded the power output at the harmonic frequencies for the square wave voltage and considerably exceeded the power output at the fundamental frequency.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 17, 2020, 04:08:43 PM

By the way, Tesla used thorium, Thomas Morray used a 'swedish stone'. In other words, Thomas Morray's circuit was similarly to Tesla's own. So, we are looking for thorium, or something that can amplify current

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: trewq on May 17, 2020, 04:46:16 PM

@Tito, my wife is also asthmatic; she found recently that in a case when she has no access for those expensive remedies in a case of a severe asthma attack, just put something with bitter taste on your tongue and keep a while in your mouth just to taste it, then swallow it; Wormwood is very good for this.
I do not pursue anymore the overunity idea. I uploaded several books here, see my post: https://overunity.com/18483/just-uploaded-several-books/msg545538/#msg545538

Do not be scared with coronavirus!!! Here is a link where a guy explains how he stopped his infection with vitamins only (vitamin D mostly. he speaks in my , Polish language; if you wish, I can translate it): https://ukryteterapie.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=362bdacaf3436ca98eff5b02d&id=ca0250dc0f&e=7e01680288
and this is his archives: https://jerzyzieba.com/archiwum/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on May 17, 2020, 05:21:57 PM

QuoteWell, Tito, there's something I have to say. I wanted to say long time, but I didn't. But let me say it. Give your device and be blessed for it.

I have found there are three kinds of people...

1) Those who always talk about giving and how much they have given however when the facts are known these people generally give almost nothing. Like donny trump and all his millionaire friends who create fake "foundations" as tax havens to serve there friends and families interests. These people never provide proof of how much they give because they don't give anything without expecting more in return.

2) Those who give and show proof of it to encourage others to give but ask nothing of others.

3) Those who give the most in time, energy and resources and never say a word about it. In fact the real people who really care are almost always the one's who expect and ask nothing of others but go out of there way to help them. They never demand something in return, loyalty or obedience because that's not giving... that's greed.
Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 17, 2020, 06:29:59 PM

ito said...
"It is very sad though that there is only one solution
About moray,hubbard, steven marks working engine
In 11 years of my research and development i found only
One real solution and this is ,maybe the reason why
Free energy developer cannot give the real woking engine because
Of its simplicity and its just one.
BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS , MY HINTS ARE REAL AND TRUTH. (https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foverunity.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fsmiley.gif&hash=988f235d2137dcd6eeb7b9ed4d2dce57a9298b3c)"
I just dont get it Teets. I can recall many times you have claimed more than one way, but now you say there is only 1 way. The other day you said AV Plug. So IS that the only way now? ??? Or was that BS too? ???
Ive not been here much in the last years. I cant say I have any more questions to ask you. One Power kinda said it in above post. I dont believe over all these years that anyone has actually gotten it from your hints and tips. In the beginning, when you said you wanted to give it to the world, many here believed in that statement and followed. And followed. And followed. Even after you began saying that you have decided differently. And here we still have people pleading with you for the answers, pleading for the truth. Still.
When you say, again and again that you will not divulge the info, and that you just want it for yourself, then we should have to believe that the hints and tips cannot be true, or at the least not anywhere near enough info for others to really even get started on something that will eventually work. Hasnt happened here in what, over 10 years? I mean if you are sincere about everything you have is already here in hints and tips, then you must have balls of steel to hold out this long waiting for someone to get it finally, but it never happens. Yet you still as from the very beginning, years and years ago till now, tease and tease that you have it, like one power said.

Its just really, I mean REALLY, getting old teets. Like one power said basically that you brag and brag and brag that you have it, even in many forms as you used to say, but never ever directly help others to find the truth. People here will die waitng for that day, and some probably already have. But that day will never come. Thats why I quit asking things of you for some time now. Because I know what the answers will be already. :-\
Like how many times have you said you are finished here and never coming back? Probably more times than you say that you have the answers. So clearly you dont tell the truth about saying you are not coming back because you always come back. So maybe everyone here should also not believe that you have the answers also. ;)
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on May 17, 2020, 09:36:32 PM

#8498 :
instead Thorium I mean PZT-"Piezo Cristalin"- materials
https://www.google.com/search?q=pzt+piezo+cristalin+material&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=pzt+piezo+cristalin+material&aqs=chrome..69i57.14169j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=pzt+piezo+cristalin+material&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=pzt+piezo+cristalin+material&aqs=chrome..69i57.14169j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

,entering Harry Kompanek cited and citing documents we remark the scientifical relationship of this device :

Biefeld-Brown https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biefeld%E2%80%93Brown_effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biefeld%E2%80%93Brown_effect) ,as same, Casimir effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect) !

Electrokinetics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrokinetics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrokinetics) Electrogravitics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrogravitics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrogravitics)

To include I supply the "Usherenko effect"
https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5435-the-usherenko-effect-very-strange/ (https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5435-the-usherenko-effect-very-strange/)

,following US4345650 by inventor WESLEY RICHARD https://patents.google.com/patent/US4345650A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4345650A/en)

and US5109922 by inventor JOSEPH ADY A. https://patents.google.com/patent/US5109922 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US5109922)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavitation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavitation)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonoluminescence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonoluminescence)

LENR-spectrum included

Sincerely
OCWL

p.s.:

https://www.google.com/search?q=casimir+generator&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=casimir+generator&aqs=chrome..69i57.8693j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=casimir+generator&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=casimir+generator&aqs=chrome..69i57.8693j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

https://www.google.com/search?q=biefeld-brown+effect+generator&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=biefeld-brown+effect+generator&aqs=chrome..69i57.15524j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=biefeld-brown+effect+generator&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=biefeld-brown+effect+generator&aqs=chrome..69i57.15524j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

"Searl generator"

it is a, not b, a hoax hoax: hokus-pokus-fidibus

https://books.google.pt/books?id=Pxy4dCQ3I9QC&pg=PA87&lpg=PA87&dq=dr.+kowsky&source=bl&ots=CQloQTG8H5&sig=ACfU3U3q8vYeyUK4o7AS3Oge6xxoANZrlA&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwia1u-hrrzpAhUi8-AKHV0XB0IQ6AEwEXoECBwQAQ#v=onepage&q=dr.%20kowsky&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=Pxy4dCQ3I9QC&pg=PA87&lpg=PA87&dq=dr.+kowsky&source=bl&ots=CQloQTG8H5&sig=ACfU3U3q8vYeyUK4o7AS3Oge6xxoANZrlA&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwia1u-hrrzpAhUi8-AKHV0XB0IQ6AEwEXoECBwQAQ#v=onepage&q=dr.%20kowsky&f=false)

super/supra conductivity
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_Mei%C3%9Fner (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_Mei%C3%9Fner)

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWalther_Mei%25C3%259Fner (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWalther_Mei%25C3%259Fner)

weber angle
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWalther_Mei%25C3%259Fner (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWalther_Mei%25C3%259Fner)

displaced ions/molecules,deflexions
https://www.nature.com/articles/174886a0 (https://www.nature.com/articles/174886a0)

Curie law,"K"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie%27s_law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie%27s_law)

Curie-Weiss-law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie%E2%80%93Weiss_law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie%E2%80%93Weiss_law)

K as wave number
http://mriquestions.com/what-does-k-stand-for.html (http://mriquestions.com/what-does-k-stand-for.html)

https://www.google.com/search?q=diamagnetic+currents&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=diamagnetic+currents&aqs=chrome..69i57.9445j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=diamagnetic+currents&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=diamagnetic+currents&aqs=chrome..69i57.9445j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 17, 2020, 10:23:40 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on May 17, 2020, 06:29:59 PM
ito said...
"It is very sad though that there is only one solution
About moray,hubbard, steven marks working engine
In 11 years of my research and development i found only
One real solution and this is ,maybe the reason why
Free energy developer cannot give the real woking engine because
Of its simplicity and its just one.
BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS , MY HINTS ARE REAL AND TRUTH. (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif))"
I just dont get it Teets. I can recall many times you have claimed more than one way, but now you say there is only 1 way. The other day you said AV Plug. So IS that the only way now? ??? Or was that BS too? ???
Ive not been here much in the last years. I cant say I have any more questions to ask you. One Power kinda said it in above post. I dont believe over all these years that anyone has actually gotten it from your hints and tips. In the beginning, when you said you wanted to give it to the world, many here believed in that statement and followed. And followed. And followed. Even after you began saying that you have decided differently. And here we still have people pleading with you for the answers, pleading for the truth. Still.
When you say, again and again that you will not divulge the info, and that you just want it for yourself, then we should have to believe that the hints and tips cannot be true, or at the least not anywhere near enough info for others to really even get started on something that will eventually work. Hasnt happened here in what, over 10 years? I mean if you are sincere about everything you have is already here in hints and tips, then you must have balls of steel to hold out this long waiting for someone to get it finally, but it never happens. Yet you still as from the very beginning, years and years ago till now, tease and tease that you have it, like one power said.

Its just really, I mean REALLY, getting old teets. Like one power said basically that you brag and brag and brag that you have it, even in many forms as you used to say, but never ever directly help others to find the truth. People here will die waitng for that day, and some probably already have. But that day will never come. Thats why I quit asking things of you for some time now. Because I know what the answers will be already. :-\
Like how many times have you said you are finished here and never coming back? Probably more times than you say that you have the answers. So clearly you dont tell the truth about saying you are not coming back because you always come back. So maybe everyone here should also not believe that you have the answers also. ;)
Mags

:( ok, i'm sorry buddy and to all i'm very sorry for all i've done :( :( :(
I don't want you or anyone to be mad to each other again, we don't know
How much more days we live currently in this crisis.
I don't exactly know how to explain everything from the start
Its a long talking if i do.
There is reason for everything why it happen ok i believe.
Please donut make short cuts for everything in 11 years for just one post cause it
Will just makes lots of error in you and me ok hope you get it. :)
If you find everything i said in 11 yeaŕs is BS as you concluded and it hurts without you care
What i felt, then so be it. So well just leave that.
In all of that, do you think i will just easily give everything i have?
I'm just human bro i'm not perfect. We are all in the same flat surface
There are improvements in every one of us in different levels i think.
Offcourse i admit there are limits to what i give and you should not
Expect for more details.

Ok since and seems that you don't want me come back, let me see.
Cause sometimes i miss everyone ok. Is that reason valid? :D
i'm sorry bye :( :( :( :( :( :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 17, 2020, 10:27:29 PM

Quote from: onepower on May 17, 2020, 05:21:57 PM
I have found there are three kinds of people...

1) Those who always talk about giving and how much they have given however when the facts are known these people generally give almost nothing. Like donny trump and all his millionaire friends who create fake "foundations" as tax havens to serve there friends and families interests. These people never provide proof of how much they give because they don't give anything without expecting more in return.

2) Those who give and show proof of it to encourage others to give but ask nothing of others.

3) Those who give the most in time, energy and resources and never say a word about it. In fact the real people who really care are almost always the one's who expect and ask nothing of others but go out of there way to help them. They never demand something in return, loyalty or obedience because that's not giving... that's greed.
Regards

In that, maybe youre write or maybe youre wrong. And i understand you thats your find.
I guess i'm not included in your find cause i'm different and unique. ;D
:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 17, 2020, 10:31:35 PM

Quote from: Leely on May 17, 2020, 07:36:49 AM
Well, Tito, there's something I have to say. I wanted to say long time, but I didn't. But let me say it. Give yo[size=78%]ur device and be blessed for it.[/size]

Well, like what i said, there is something in me that i cannot do what
You want right away. Maybe because i'm just human. Sorry buddy. :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 17, 2020, 10:38:39 PM

Quote from: trewq on May 17, 2020, 04:46:16 PM
@Tito, my wife is also asthmatic; she found recently that in a case when she has no access for those expensive remedies in a case of a severe asthma attack, just put something with bitter taste on your tongue and keep a while in your mouth just to taste it, then swallow it; Wormwood is very good for this.
I do not pursue anymore the overunity idea. I uploaded several books here, see my post: https://overunity.com/18483/just-uploaded-several-books/msg545538/#msg545538 (https://overunity.com/18483/just-uploaded-several-books/msg545538/#msg545538)

Do not be scared with coronavirus!!! Here is a link where a guy explains how he stopped his infection with vitamins only (vitamin D mostly. he speaks in my , Polish language; if you wish, I can translate it): https://ukryteterapie.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=362bdacaf3436ca98eff5b02d&id=ca0250dc0f&e=7e01680288 (https://ukryteterapie.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=362bdacaf3436ca98eff5b02d&id=ca0250dc0f&e=7e01680288)
and this is his archives: https://jerzyzieba.com/archiwum/ (https://jerzyzieba.com/archiwum/)

Thank you very much sir for the info, it gives me additional strength to face it. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 18, 2020, 12:00:53 PM

Ok, it seems this has to do with charging a capacitor with another capacitor

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on May 18, 2020, 12:23:36 PM

Mag

QuoteWhen you say, again and again that you will not divulge the info, and that you just want it for yourself, then we should have to believe that the hints and tips cannot be true, or at the least not anywhere near enough info for others to really even get started on something that will eventually work. Hasnt happened here in what, over 10 years? I mean if you are sincere about everything you have is already here in hints and tips, then you must have balls of steel to hold out this long waiting for someone to get it finally, but it never happens. Yet you still as from the very beginning, years and years ago till now, tease and tease that you have it, like one power said.

I was mistaken...

I used to judge Tito harshly like many others have here in the past. I was wrong and after being gaslighted, harassed and threatened I came to understand others wanting free energy for nothing is not worth ruining my life. Therefore I agree with Tito that we give what we choose to give not what others feel they are entitled to. Apparently everyone wants something but very few are willing to give anything of real value in return... such is life.

As well, you basically contradicted yourself. How many people do you know who have given "tips and tricks" supposedly relating to a working free energy device for over 10 years?. If that is not giving and determination then what is?. Most people don't even have the attention span or determination to last a year in the FE community. The fact that Tito even has something to give let alone over 10 years is remarkable in itself.

With respect to real FE researchers, T.H.Moray spent 30 years to develop a working device and like many others decided to take his secrets with him to his grave. Like many he rose to a higher level of understanding only to find all that he thought important wasn't really as important as he thought. Wisdom...

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 18, 2020, 10:39:10 PM

Quote from: onepower on May 18, 2020, 12:23:36 PM
Mag
I was mistaken...

I used to judge Tito harshly like many others have here in the past. I was wrong and after being gaslighted, harassed and threatened I came to understand others wanting free energy for nothing is not worth ruining my life. Therefore I agree with Tito that we give what we choose to give not what others feel they are entitled to. Apparently everyone wants something but very few are willing to give anything of real value in return... such is life.

As well, you basically contradicted yourself. How many people do you know who have given "tips and tricks" supposedly relating to a working free energy device for over 10 years?. If that is not giving and determination then what is?. Most people don't even have the attention span or determination to last a year in the FE community. The fact that Tito even has something to give let alone over 10 years is remarkable in itself.

With respect to real FE researchers, T.H.Moray spent 30 years to develop a working device and like many others decided to take his secrets with him to his grave. Like many he rose to a higher level of understanding only to find all that he thought important wasn't really as important as he thought. Wisdom...

Regards

"As well, you basically contradicted yourself. How many people do you know who have given "tips and tricks" supposedly relating to a working free energy device for over 10 years?."

What? With that statement, using the word 'supposedly', does not grant Tito nor any other to continuously brag of having a free energy device(even saying has many different ways) and give 'supposed' tips and tricks, but at the same time refuses to divulge the actual full answers to those that have followed 'HIM' and waited for years and years. If he is sincere that he will not divulge how to do it, and has many times claimed that he only wants it for himself, then we have to assume that the tips and trick are never ever going to be enough, as if they were then he loses his grip on what he says he only wants for himself. Or, it is all just a lie and he has nothing, of which is still just as bad considering. The big problem with that is there are many people led on by all this, for years and years, trying to do some or most of what Tito tipped to, including me. And then he ridicules the ones who try and calls them lazy. He has some serious issues and I highly recommend to anyone here that has tried and waited, and are still waiting, there are many other threads here that can be more promising than to further follow Tito. Said it before, years ago, and I say it again. ;)

Basically like this.. If he wants to just keep it for himself, and the tips are never going to be enough, then why persist in his claims and just sit back and enjoy what he has and stop leading people on? If he does have something and definitely doesnt want anyone to have it but himself, then why still encourage others for years and years about it. So something is very fishy about the whole thing. And just maybe like many have said in the past, it is all just for attention. Well this way of going about it has certainly given him that, pretty much for nothing in return. ;)

He Keeps diverting to Jesus at times. I dont have any problem with Jesus. Im a believer. In contrast, there are many who have found the truth with Jesus, sooo many more than have found FE from Tito, of which may be nobody has. I find he diverts to Jesus talk mostly when people come down on him so as at least some may have some sympathy for 'that' cause, not to really get them to follow Jesus. It just becomes clear over time of years and years of learning who he really is in this thread.

"As well, you basically contradicted yourself"

Hmm. So everything you posted in your previous post 'now' is just nonsense and and you regret it. I share a lot of things that I do, whether they have anything to do with FE or not, I show things. I answer questions. I 'give' answers and ask for nothing in return.

"I used to judge Tito harshly like many others have here in the past. I was wrong and after being gaslighted, harassed and threatened I came to understand others wanting free energy for nothing is not worth ruining my life. Therefore I agree with Tito that we give what we choose to give not what others feel they are entitled to. Apparently everyone wants something but very few are willing to give anything of real value in return... such is life."

Soo, when was it that you were gaslighted and harassed and threatened? Some time in between this post and the previous post?

"Therefore I agree with Tito that we give what we choose to give not what others feel they are entitled to"

Then we may as well just call it energy from now on. Because when it comes to Tito and your policy on the subject, it must not be free, but instead should fill your pockets, not to envision a better future for everyone, only yourselves.

So for example when it comes to Jesus, where is it written that when we give, we are to expect something in return? Might as well just take 'give' and its actual meaning and take it all the way out of the whole conversation from here on in. ;)

"With respect to real FE researchers, T.H.Moray spent 30 years to develop a working device and like many others decided to take his secrets with him to his grave. Like many he rose to a higher level of understanding only to find all that he thought important wasn't really as important as he thought. Wisdom...

Thats balony. You tell it like you know Moray actually had it like you have some sort of proof that it was real, but then say he took his secrets to the grave like some saint or something. Like many he rose to a higher level of understanding? Maybe. Maybe not! Maybe he was like Tito and you and tried to fill his pockets, never really thinking on how the whole world would benefit from it in the end, even you and Tito. As you say, 'such is life'?

Why do I come here now to say all this? I say it to help the many who follow this false prophet of free energy and encourage them to look elsewhere.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 19, 2020, 01:18:22 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on May 18, 2020, 10:39:10 PM
Why do I come here now to say all this? I say it to help the many who follow this false prophet of free energy and encourage them to look elsewhere.

Mags

It is true. But it is either some of you did not follow his tips the way he gave it. Or someone just kept on misinterpreting what he said and kept on showing us wrong diagrams, and we followed and got lost, and at the end, we say 'tito what did you give us'? And we forget the tips that he gave us. I saw it myself in this thread that some people translated something else. Let us try to follow what he gave us and see where it will lead us. This thread is one of the thread we have not completely solved. It is not that other threads don't have free energy, or that we cannot get free energy from other threads, but this thread keeps on showing itself that we have not solved it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 19, 2020, 02:37:35 AM

Quote from: Leely on May 19, 2020, 01:18:22 AM

It is true. But it is either some of you did not follow his tips the way he gave it. Or someone just kept on misinterpreting what he said and kept on showing us wrong diagrams, and we followed and got lost, and at the end, we say 'tito what did you give us'? And we forget the tips that he gave us. I saw it myself in this thread that some people translated something else. Let us try to follow what he gave us and see where it will lead us. This thread is one of the thread we have not completely solved. It is not that other threads don't have free energy, or that we cannot get free energy from other threads, but this thread keeps on showing itself that we have not solved it.

Hey Leely

But, are titos tips actually what he used or uses in his claim of a working device? Can you say that they are for sure? If so, then you must have been able to achieve a working device in order to say so and confirm it. ;) Otherwise to make such statements such as yours must be purely groupy talk on your part. Blind follower.

These are troubling times, where people just read a headline and just say "It must be true so this is what I know now to be a fact" all without doing your own research to find out if its true or not. And there are a lot of headlines that are absolutely not true, if you do your homework you will know. And a very large portion of the populations dont do their homework and just assume "well, if the article says it, it must be true.

Many here have done a lot of homework on many different topics here on this site alone, not to mention YouTube and elsewhere.

I can only say that a few that I have known, here and there, most likely have accomplished what we search for. But they dont talk about those subjects anymore in short time of them making claims and talking some about it. but Tito, he just keeps on that whip. Yee Haa! ::)

I think there is OU out there already. Wouldnt it be nice to have drones that never need a charge? ;)

If you have actually read the whole thread and really think on what you have read, and when you look at all the different tips and tricks Tito has told over the years, then surly if all of it or any of it were true, dont you think that at least just one builder from this site over 10 years would have gotten it? Or maybe 2 have and at least 1 would have the courage to come here and show it for all to see and know that this stuff is not a myth, or a joke, and open their eyes and ears and that it is real. That my friends is what would put free energy on the global map so that no government nor tyrant can deny that it exists so that every living person on the earth could share the wealth of this great giving by 1 courageous man. Or woman.

Unless you know that all Tito says for sure is the truth on this subject, then your whole argument is just speculation and your belief in what you present is not based on facts. 'Facts dont care about your feelings.' Ben Shapiro

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 19, 2020, 03:19:33 AM

You're right, but you see. I have been an experimenter for years now, and some things I've found out is that, machines like to be built, and not just by drawing on sims. Some things one may speculate by heart may not work in real life( that is, by experimentation).
You must also know that not all experimenters come to the same conclusions, some people get something else, while others get another.
There are only about 3 to 4 tips I picked up from tito, but if one follows this thread, one may see up to 10 tips. In other words; speculations from other people entered.
If someone built a device in his house like tito's, if may not be tito's device, but may have some tips on his device in it. But if we share thoughts concerning his device here, we may be sure that we are getting close to building such device.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 19, 2020, 03:30:46 AM

Peace to everyone :)
@mags
Hey buddy please don't get mad at me ok.
I'm just trying to show a way which i believe it is,
It is still up to you to follow it ok! I'm not forcing you or anyone
Its just a tip.
In return also please don't force or dictate me to what i want to
Give. I think i still have my rights for my research cause thats mine.
NO ONE GAVE ME THAT , I ALSO GOT A TIP FROM TESLAS WORDS.

I THINK I HAVE NOTHING TO EXPLAIN MORE ITS BASIC!
WHATS YOURS IS YOURS AND WHATS MINE IS MINE.

I'M JUST GIVING A TIP AND THEN YOUR MAD AT ME WHEN YOU DID'NT GET IT!
THATS SUPER WOW. :)

Ok lets friends now, sorry for everything
Virus is everywhere i'm in danger, ;D did i make you smile for that buddy?

Peace ok peace
Bye love you though were not lovers
Bye God bless ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 19, 2020, 04:04:43 AM

Ok here! :)
I'm now 1000% sure that avramenko plug is
The way to go, but its just a hint, theres more
To it. Please don't get mad at me if it didn't get you
There ok?
Its up to you to try i'm not forcing you everyone
Just be careful its dangerus than covid19.
You have to drink a lot of immune system in trying it. :D
Try to adď a good sacrificial metal to lesened the danger.

God bless
Bye
Master covid19 ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 19, 2020, 04:24:38 AM

Yes its yours. Only for you.
Its the only for you that has me thinking that your tips may be just random specs of things that are from a tesla pat or some other free energy guy from the past that probably are just that, random bits passed off as the truth so it will remain only yours. The same would go if you really didnt have a working device. Just crumbs of random stuff to keep everyone alive, hoping that some day the great Tito will show mercy on them. Just pick a seemingly obscure device like the AV plug and yell "THATS THE ANSWER. Because remember, its yours. Only you. So I would probably be right to say that, no, the av plug is not it, because now it wouldnt be only you anymore. But ya know... We, all of us are lazy. Not a good one in the bunch. Even the many that tried. Lazy. Every last one. Lazy bums! These crumbs are all you will get, and even with them, it will be only me. Mine. Pretty much it.

So yeah, Im not in the belief that your tips are the true answers. or else it possibly wont be just yours anymore...

Whats the cure to this demise? Just stop saying you have it and will never give it, and you will probably have a decent conversation here and there. Simple. Its yours, and will never give it away, ever, then just shut up about it. We know. Have known for a long long time. That part of the conversation, when it was good conversation it seemed, isnt ever going to be the same again like it was. And it was at times great. Gave many here ambition and high expectations..... Do you see any of that here today?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on May 19, 2020, 04:52:27 AM

Of some of my testing with the av plug, I found that when the plug is connected to the output secondary(red wire, thin bobbin) open ended, there wasnt any charge happening, for that 22uf cap anyway, but on the 3rd wire if the trifi, its still off the charts of the scope. going through parts to make a pair of av plugs to put one on each end of the winding.
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 19, 2020, 04:58:31 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on May 19, 2020, 04:24:38 AM
Yes its yours. Only for you.
Its the only for you that has me thinking that your tips may be just random specs of things that are from a tesla pat or some other free energy guy from the past that probably are just that, random bits passed off as the truth so it will remain only yours. The same would go if you really didnt have a working device. Just crumbs of random stuff to keep everyone alive, hoping that some day the great Tito will show mercy on them. Just pick a seemingly obscure device like the AV plug and yell "THATS THE ANSWER. Because remember, its yours. Only you. So I would probably be right to say that, no, the av plug is not it, because now it wouldnt be only you anymore. But ya know... We, all of us are lazy. Not a good one in the bunch. Even the many that tried. Lazy. Every last one. Lazy bums! These crumbs are all you will get, and even with them, it will be only me. Mine. Pretty much it.

So yeah, Im not in the belief that your tips are the true answers. or else it possibly wont be just yours anymore...

Whats the cure to this demise? Just stop saying you have it and will never give it, and you will probably have a decent conversation here and there. Simple. Its yours, and will never give it away, ever, then just shut up about it. We know. Have known for a long long time. That part of the conversation, when it was good conversation it seemed, isnt ever going to be the same again like it was. And it was at times great. Gave many here ambition and high expectations..... Do you see any of that here today?

Mags

Owh buddy i'm really sorry for everything, it seems that i'ved mess a lot. :( :( :(
I am not denying that i've learned a lot here.
I thougth and feel that i'm helping when i gave some tips
It seems that what i'ved done is wrong, :(
I thought when someone got a tip , it will dig a lot on it
Doing lots of possibilities, and from there they discover it from their experiment
And i am become happy for them not expecting anything from them.
I thought that was right :(

Ok i'll stop now.
:( :( :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 19, 2020, 05:14:36 AM

The tip I got was that 3volts can be used to go on and on. Why is there high voltage? Can 3volts create the high voltage? Is the experiment dangerous? If there was high voltage, why did you then say we should discharge with a commutator

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 19, 2020, 07:28:30 AM

See Tito, there is something you have to know. You cannot push yourself front by keeping that device there and expecting someone to come and see your device. You have to make sacrifices for you to move to the next level. You cannot accrue yourself a name people didn't give you, by saying people should come and respect you for you have made a device. I didn't see any device. You didn't sell any device. I'm not stealing any of your device. So you shouldn't be attracting any attention here by saying we should see your device. You could decide to lock up this thread. You created it. If you wish for us not to talk about your device. So you don't create insults that we don't know how to build a device.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on May 23, 2020, 04:46:21 PM

Quote from: synchro1 on May 17, 2020, 03:22:25 AM
Here are some pictures of the "Gray Tube":

The inside carbon rod "Igniter Spark" acts as a transistor gate for the outside D.C. "Screen Electrodes". Notice the small D.C. fan and optic cutter for pulse control at the bottom. The battery is connected to the screens and the HV to the carbon rod electrodes in the center.

The resulting A.C.+ D.C. fusion generates a "Plasma Event". The capacitive energy is stored in a HV capacitor, then "popped" into a heavy inductor. The very powerful magnetic pulse can fire a projectile. There are videos of this awesome force!

Here is my attempt at the Ed Gray Motor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0iYdN-pfEo

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on May 23, 2020, 05:00:48 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on May 17, 2020, 02:22:59 AM
Tesla made a tapper device that shook a multi story building. So in his mind I believe he knew that the amount of energy that was stored in the buildings movement, once it was at say max of where he would not let it happen any further, that there was more energy happening in the shaking building than the total amount of energy it took to get that building shaking. Does that sound about right?

So I believe he knew that the energy of the vibrating building had more than enough energy to wind up the spring in the tapper box to do it all over again with most likely some energy left over. Is this not what he was trying to convey?

So thats my path. For some time now.

How are you incorporating this in your device Mags? I agree with you that this is the correct path, but what and how are you engineering it in your device flow?

Title: Re: Resonance In Resonance
Post by: XR IX on May 24, 2020, 12:08:48 PM

Question My Compadres,

What is the source for the concept for "Resonance In Resonance". Is this a phrase that was coined here or is it an actual Tesla writing or allusion?

I would appreciate any information on the topic.

Thanks,

XR

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on May 24, 2020, 02:08:54 PM

Sir
there is a member Ernst at Energetic forum [might be here too]I did a quick search for his topic but Franco [Topo] has buried all the topics there.
I havent corresponded with Ernst in some time , I could ...however member Onepower heremight be able to answer...if not I will touch base with Ernst [he is a very cool guy]
thx Chet
BTW very nice builds... :) and thankyou for sharing

Ps
Just for clarity Ernst translated every word he could find on Tesla
Took years !!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on May 24, 2020, 03:45:03 PM

Thanks Chet,

I will tap on Ernst's shoulder, and see if I can get some sourcing for the concept.

I do appreciate your reply and direction, and my builds have taught me so much. I hope it can help others. When I figure this out, I won't make the mistake of trying to mislead people or ring the patent office dinner bell of monsters. I will have schematics, a BOM, and test points and documentation for replication packed with MD5 hash value(s) wrappers. What do I need of wealth and power, I want evolution of humanity. LOL

XR

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on May 24, 2020, 03:48:56 PM

XR IX

QuoteQuestion My Compadres,

What is the source for the concept for "Resonance In Resonance". Is this a phrase that was coined here or is it an actual Tesla writing or allusion?

Resonance is when an external force applied to a system is very close to the natural frequency of the system on which it acts.

Resonance in resonance may be similar to Tesla's statement regarding wheels within wheels. Energy as oscillations is a universal concept thus it could be a reference to oscillations within oscillations. For example when we excite a resonant L/C circuit there are always some losses as heat. The L/C oscillations are electrical in nature however the heat relates to a measure of the molecular motion. So in fact we have two kinds of oscillations, electrical and molecular excitation, which have there own resonances or natural frequence of oscillation.

There is also some evidence to suggest that environmental heat or molecular motion can be transformed into a force acting on the free electrons within an electrical circuit producing power. This is true because the devices were claimed to run cooler below room temperature as more load was applied. As such regardless of where the concept "Resonance In Resonance" came from it does invoke many interesting thoughts.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on May 31, 2020, 03:43:00 AM

https://youtu.be/56znGC2TAck

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on May 31, 2020, 07:54:33 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 31, 2020, 03:43:00 AM
https://youtu.be/56znGC2TAck

How come you don't tell them to stick that plug in the Earth?

That's what Tesla did.

He couldn't separate charges with P and N doped junctions like we take for granted, and had to do everything from a down hill potential, hence the need for building device that could seek Earth ground.

Tito I wish you would just tell them what you know. I have read some of your older posts, and I think you have some understanding of this.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 01, 2020, 08:23:54 AM

https://youtu.be/voHGyN93Ru4 (https://youtu.be/voHGyN93Ru4)
https://images.app.goo.gl/8G94BsBJYVRsvMaG8 (https://images.app.goo.gl/8G94BsBJYVRsvMaG8)

What can you say about this?, aren't they truth.

@x1
Sorry buddy, i don't wanna talk anymore,
CAUSE I'M JUST BEING BULLIED HERE BY SOME GENIUS
TALKER.
recently, all i just did was to post trying to share something.
I just post the avramenko then he has a lot of talk and conclusions from the
Fast. You check it and see if i insulted someone.
I just can't talk like he can and express my self very well.

The real issue here is just i claim something in the fast and he can't move on ,on that anymore wow.
It seems that i made a big big sin in the community and he is hero fighting for the community against me just because of what i'ved done wow.
What a great hero.

A person sometimes can change in just one night.
And base on the way a person talk you really can smell some person didn't change 11 years ago. Got it?

Lets see with this small post you can see how he can post a very big big reply. ;D
He is now thingking a lot...........................

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 01, 2020, 09:10:24 AM

http://www.rexresearch.com/elculture/elculture.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/elculture/elculture.htm)
about (right) Dipoles use and yield of plants/animals/humans amplifying ;)

http://www.rexresearch.com/johnsonjy/johnsonjy.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/johnsonjy/johnsonjy.htm)

Planck,Roentgen,Raman,Kerr,on the right way :) near and far IR and UR to sonic R

Floyd Sweat : "green phaenomen" 8)

Plants turgor effect ;) : http://www.rexresearch.com/elculture/9.jpg (http://www.rexresearch.com/elculture/9.jpg)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 01, 2020, 09:47:40 AM

Ok i'm sorry about what i said "GENIUS TALKER"
i said that because i was really hurt about all what he says.
He has a lot of talk inspite of me being humble in my post.
All i did was wrote that it is the avramengko. Now let say i'm not
Credible and just fooling people "WHY KEEP ON BOTHERING YOUR SELF HERE!" >:(
i remember one time tesla was bullied and he was disgusted by media.
:D
I was in humble mode in my recent post but he kept on insulting and judging and
Concluded everything in me. What a great hero. :D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on June 01, 2020, 10:15:14 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 01, 2020, 08:23:54 AM

@x1
Sorry buddy, i don't wanna talk anymore,
CAUSE I'M JUST BEING BULLIED HERE BY SOME GENIUS
TALKER.
recently, all i just did was to post trying to share something.
I just post the avramenko then he has a lot of talk and conclusions from the
Fast. You check it and see if i insulted someone.
I just can't talk like he can and express my self very well.

Tito I hope you stick around and contribute when you feel the need. There are also other platforms, and eager listeners. I mostly post on energyevo.com, the audience is small, and the admin is really a helpful resource.

Everyone has to face the reality that the answer has always been hidden in plain site, and will continually to be hidden by a very small contingent hired by the industrial complex to keep us stupid. If conspiracies aren't logical and distant, we just have to view who contributes and who does not. People can mistake critical thinking to ideas as a sign of malfeasance, and agreed; if it is the consistent sole dialog, then yes, you have to suspect the source.

I value the people who can push back, then in the next turn, offer thoughts and suggestions. However I understand that being a good teacher is not everyone's skill. We all need to try better to move the subject forward.

I offer the significance of Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter. The word "magnifying" means something is being amplified, and in the subject of power transmission, it is POWER.

This is where I can vouch for you Tito --not that you need it ;), but I saw a post you had about the secondary and extra coil tuning ratios of 1/4 and 3/4. That is not common knowledge, in fact it's buried in the Colorado Springs notes... where Tesla mules over tuning.

Honestly until I saw that, I wasn't sure about what you knew.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on June 01, 2020, 10:32:25 AM

Tito Not sure who you refer to ..attacks and bullying ?
11 years of dropping crumbs whenever you get "bored" maybe ?...there are others too [you are not alone at this forum] its not a small club,persons who fiddle with life saving technology..and feel no need to truly share [some make hoops to jump thru and keep moving the hoop [sadists??] for many years..gloating too..

and accuse persons who spent their lives searching lazy or whatever ?[we have a few of those here]
However most of those people have no faith they profess ...my issue with you is how you"thank God" and watch the world suffer [11 years now]...you take old testament approach ...in a new testament world ..
your example of slowly dropping crumbs to a weary group of builders...many who would do as XR1X would do ...and many others...
Read the mission statement here...maybe your posts are for the others who play God here too?
waiting and watching and making excuses while the world suffers..[you watch and play as a god]

sorry you make my skin crawl...you redefine the word Bully...in a suffering world that desperately needs this tech...you are like a sadist who taunts...you have done similar hundreds of times or more [drop crumbs]
hopefully one person will change this..it will only take one..no games no hoops ...no crumbs..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 01, 2020, 10:34:09 AM

Quote from: XR IX on June 01, 2020, 10:15:14 AM
Tito I hope you stick around and contribute when you feel the need. There are also other platforms, and eager listeners. I mostly post on energyevo.com, the audience is small, and the admin is really a helpful resource.

I dont mind if he stays. I never told him to leave. He has said many times he was leaving for good, way more than the total of anyone telling him he should leave..
Question to all readers.... Has anyone here used some, one or even all of titos tips, and found it very helpful in our goals here? Mostly what he gives is, or should be to most, common knowledge in OUr world. Hey, tip tip tip it all you want, but to berate others here as lazy, etc, because they ask for more help, beyond just a tip, to advance further is not good, or nice, and further more not helpful. Maybe some people are good teachers and some are just not. Like when back in school, there were always these teachers that could hold your attn and you learn so much more from their teachings. And then there are the other teachers that maybe you dread that class and learning levels are not so great.

Anyway teets, do as you will. And you will.
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on June 01, 2020, 11:12:53 AM

But, regardless of personal issues, when I see some one trying to say that they can run their car, and house, on 12v through an inverter circuit, all from an outside antenna as the power source. It makes me laugh, or cry.
Lets see it... so much talk, but, so little OU. You can't light your house from crumbs, or rat traps. If you know what I mean.
NickZ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 02, 2020, 01:25:08 PM

Quote from: NickZ on June 01, 2020, 11:12:53 AM
But, regardless of personal issues, when I see some one trying to say that they can run their car, and house, on 12v through an inverter circuit, all from an outside antenna as the power source. It makes me laugh, or cry.
Lets see it... so much talk, but, so little OU. You can't light your house from crumbs, or rat traps. If you know what I mean.
NickZ

If tito really has 'it', I cannot confirm that. I dont think anyone here can confirm that. But if he does, in a way that you describe, then what he said about a single stage just provides a small amount of COP and then you have to run it through consecutive stages to have a final greater cop. So if it is his way then crumbs could turn into a bakery. I like blueberry pie. Have not had any in a long time.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 02, 2020, 03:05:05 PM

A biscuit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF0CS8aY1CY
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on June 02, 2020, 03:49:42 PM

Quote from: NickZ on June 01, 2020, 11:12:53 AM
But, regardless of personal issues, when I see some one trying to say that they can run their car, and house, on 12v through an inverter circuit, all from an outside antenna as the power source. It makes me laugh, or cry.
Lets see it... so much talk, but, so little OU. You can't light your house from crumbs, or rat traps. If you know what I mean.
NickZ

You have to believe destinations are possible, or otherwise you have to ask yourself why you traverse the road.

I never thought I could do this with 12v using 6 Watts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLlF4R6aUfE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 02, 2020, 05:43:54 PM

Quote from: XR IX on June 02, 2020, 03:49:42 PM
You have to believe destinations are possible, or otherwise you have to ask yourself why you traverse the road.

I never thought I could do this with 12v using 6 Watts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLlF4R6aUfE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLlF4R6aUfE)

What is the actual working wattage of the led bulbs? Can you post a pic of the diff in brightness?Can you charge a cell phone with it? And lastly, could it all be reduced to fit in your pocket?
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on June 02, 2020, 09:00:18 PM

Oh, guys I know why I traverse the road, alright. It's not just to charge a cell phone or dimly light some bulbs.
It's showing nothing more than an ordinary inverter circuit. You can buy them ready made, Tesla coils, boaster circuits, etz...
But, that's not "energy amplification", not free energy, nor even OU, either. The battery drains, or the grid power goes out, and that's all she wrote. Right?
Energy amplification, is more than a voltage increase, at the expense of a tiny bit of current. In the Dally thread we are discussing the Roma device, that outputs 4000w using just a simple oscillator circuit and some coils, no ground line. No you can't put it in your pocket... And you can't buy it on Ebay, as yet.
It does need a battery to connect to, but the output is amazing. At the expense of just what the Tesla coils and oscillator consumes.
That is some OU, if true. I wish it were, it would make things so much easier, simpler, and better.
NickZ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on June 07, 2020, 01:07:34 PM

You can see Tito's point a bit here.

I can't tie it neatly with a bow, even if I could run your house with a match box. I will be honest and say, I can't do that yet. However maybe your expectations of people might be skewed thinking people can do that off the bat.

The problem with collaboration, is that once you introduce poop in your pie, it's the only flavor people remember, regardless of the good ingredients and excellent skills you have.

I am sharing what I have, and you can take it or leave it. My video doesn't have OU engineered as a requirement. People think resonance is OU, but it's just an ingredient from what I theorize. If you are just making arbitrary devices and not answering the question how you are amplifying energy, then I think you reduce your chance for any success.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 07, 2020, 03:09:27 PM

Yeah... Just use a big wire and bypass the power meter. Free. Free free free. Run everything on that.

But, we all know what kind of circuit or device we all hope to achieve.. Self running for starters. There shouldnt be any question as to what 'self running' means.

If for example there is a way to take a small energy input and create a larger energy output, then it should be able to self run once started. Ok, we have say a crystal radio... It uses that small signal from the station to produce enough audio to hear. So we could capture that. So if Tito has a way to amplify that, then that is what is missing from the tips and all we are left with is not self runner we would like to achieve. What if all the radio stations were shut down for whatever reason? Cant say its not possible.

Not sure today, but back when the phone line used finger wheel dialup, ther was 90v across those red and green wires. You could charge batteries. Ring the phones bell. Well people were doing it and the phone co didnt like it that much. Dont know if the power companies were involved.
What would be nice is if we had the answer to the magnification electrically, we should be able to also translate that to mechanical. But I have not seen either yet.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on June 07, 2020, 06:34:21 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 07, 2020, 03:09:27 PM
Yeah... Just use a big wire and bypass the power meter. Free. Free free free. Run everything on that.

But, we all know what kind of circuit or device we all hope to achieve.. Self running for starters. There shouldnt be any question as to what 'self running' means.

If for example there is a way to take a small energy input and create a larger energy output, then it should be able to self run once started. Ok, we have say a crystal radio... It uses that small signal from the station to produce enough audio to hear. So we could capture that. So if Tito has a way to amplify that, then that is what is missing from the tips and all we are left with is not self runner we would like to achieve. What if all the radio stations were shut down for whatever reason? Cant say its not possible.

Not sure today, but back when the phone line used finger wheel dialup, ther was 90v across those red and green wires. You could charge batteries. Ring the phones bell. Well people were doing it and the phone co didnt like it that much. Dont know if the power companies were involved.
What would be nice is if we had the answer to the magnification electrically, we should be able to also translate that to mechanical. But I have not seen either yet.

Mags

I do see your point Mags, but what if you can't achieve the self sustaining energy from a low level, or that natures governors don't permit you to feedback the charge potential within it's system construct, however ...you do have more energy you can harvest then you actually input. We maybe setting a self defeating finish line. Why I say this, is that Tesla doesn't mention that his device is a "self-runner" however he makes numerous references to continually running devices that the energy is always flowing down hill. The problem for us, is we don't even have iterative results that are helpful, or a working theory to promote experimentation.

I think in the examples you gave, it is a perspective we must start cultivating. You must get energy from the outside, and bring it within the system. That energy can be a resonant state that you develop and maintain, but it is not measured in your "Power Meter"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pauldude000 on June 08, 2020, 01:23:28 AM

The problem is that "energy is neither created nor destroyed" -- is usually misapplied, as well as "the total energy of an isolated system remains constant."

I say misapplied in that everyone expects these to apply outside of their working peramiters. Outside? What? All physical laws apply only if specific conditions exist.

Energy can be transformed, which can appear as created from nothing if only one form of energy is considered and another ignored. The second is hard to accomplish, in that truly isolated (closed) systems are rare in actuality. For instance, shielding is required within any sensitive electronic shielding just to isolate stray fields from adding energy where undesired into that system.

What you need to know is that energy is not just one "thing". A perfect example of an overunity system is the solar cell, where one form of energy (light) is transformed directly into another (electricity). This may not be considered as overunity since people understand the process, but in fact it always has been an example. It is a perpetual motion device in the sense that human beings need not add ANY energy into the system for it to produce energy, possibly for centuries or until physically damaged. A waterwheel is another form. modern science is stuck on electricity, batteries, electromagnetism, and heat as energy sources.

Where you will not find overunity is within the same system using the same exact form of energy. For instance, using electricity to produce electricity will produce less than unity. Some energy is always lost in most any system imaginable. Perfect conversion is even unity. So, how does a person try to achieve overunity?

Actually, that is easy in concept, though VERY difficult in practice.

You have to find a natural energy source of high potential and cause/allow it to flow to an area of low potential, converting if necessary to another form of more usable energy (such as electricity) so that the energy can be harvested.

To get overunity, this energy surce will either have to be unknown or unrealized, in that it cannot be presently considered a viable form of usable energy. You don't even have to know exactly what the unknown energy form is, I just advise not making stupid claims if/when you find one, such as automatic claims of "zero point energy" as a for instance. Don't make any claims at all unless you know for a fact what you are converting, lol, or you will look stupid.

Tesla, for instance was working with every form of electricity imaginable, not just high frequency AC as many people falsely claim, nor was he solely concerned with resonance, though it was a major part of his experimentation. Tesla and those like him didn't "think outside the box" -- they were never in the box to begin with. If you want to be like Tesla, examine the common box from every angle to find the all of the strengths and flaws, throw away the BS, then form your own box.

Time will tell how well you crafted your box.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 08, 2020, 05:59:52 AM

"energy": can this expression becomes defind ?

Is it ever in EE the "Lorentz force = EMF " !?
"energy" : old units (kilo-)calorie,erg now Joule and eV(elementalcharge in Volt)
but force F or G : old unit dyn and now Newton

In a geral formula ? or is the "specific energy",based by quantum physics, the base :
e= mc^2 m = by acceleration : M1-M2 !? m= by deceleration : M1 + M2 !?

and (by Tesla) e=tc^2 t = as speed/velocity in liquid,air,vacuum

speed/velocity a. acceleration b. deceleration

straight line,ccw,cw

Friction/resistance !?

How is "time" in physics defind !? Is a light-year a "time unit : -year/cycle" or "range/distance/way unit : ..... Km "

Gravity : Wichte = specific weight strictly to differ from Ge-Wicht= weight

Importance,or example : horizontal motor-rotor lifted by two magnets

Moment = Kraft = Force ,
vector (arrow)? scalar (arrow) ? positive (direction) sign ? negative (direction) sign ?
"specific force" ?

Ruhe-/Lage-/potentielle Energie,Bewegungs-Energie,Reibungs-Energie : be-/ent-schleunigend :
"energy" in geral several different formulas,conditioning dependent, to "specific energy" !
Used in energy to work lever-aging devices/machine !?
Ridiculous :
Lavenami 40 Km/h velocity max: 1,5 KW nominal electric motor
to modify to 80 Km/h max. we have to calculate : 80/40 = 2(v3)x1,5 KW= 12 KW nominal electric motor
to modify to 120 Km/h we have to calculate : 120/40 = 3(v3) x 1,5 KW = 40,5 KW nominal electric motor
~ Reva NRG : 37 KW nominal AC- motor, 12 KWh consume/100 km

In Germany average sped (A.D.A.C./Allgemeine Deutsche Automobil Clube study) city,land/federal streets,highway :

56 km/h

24.02.2020

For 111 km VW-electric ID.3 - 2000 / two thousands - participants had to pedal during 24 hours on 100 bicycles with coupled electric-generator

If the human average work-force per hour = 75 W x 100 bicycles x 24 hours = 180 KWh

btw: human peak : 2000 W

e-car conversion from 95 hp combustion engine to 32 KW nominal electric drive

Why ? 95 hp to KW and combustion engine max to combustion engine average !

Simple fact !

( ::) Not to include a next loss factor : calculatoric pure hp to KW directly to rotative and fixed/variable and DC nominal in torque versus AC nominal in torque )

Question now : Haeusler Zsolt city car 1,5 KW nominal electric motor conversion of gasoline engine car

0-50 Km/h in city traffic,partial only more 0-30 Km/h,with/-out flywheel ?
Car weight,passengers/luggage weight ?
City with hills,plane !?

Parking-garage with many decks up with which velocity ? Or in future only more garage " car-Paternoster-platform"- service !?

Michel Porquer 4x 500 Watt -speed amplifying- gear drive ~ 12 KWh nominal electric drive

We have sufficient studies and prototypes to develop the world future anymore with " unecological big factories/companies/countries" !
Tesla Inc. is not an example for ecological "energy application", like VW,BMW,Toyota,Daimler-Benz great enough to die !

To dissolve multi-national in national,and ex-mother-company independent,"baby"-companies !

The world is independent from their physical existence !
Especially about selling 10000 Euros worth new production costs cars for 50000 Euros and more !
Economical market abuse ! And ecology abuse :

1 Tesla car engine : 10,up to 100 conventional city cars combustion to electric drive conversion kit-s material !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 08, 2020, 09:47:50 AM

Quote from: pauldude000 on June 08, 2020, 01:23:28 AM
The problem is that "energy is neither created nor destroyed" -- is usually misapplied, as well as "the total energy of an isolated system remains constant."

If we charge a 100uf cap to 100v and connect it to a 100uf cap with 0v we end up with 50v in each cap, we lose 50% of the total energy that was in the first cap to start. Calculate the energy total in 2 100uf caps at 50v each. Where did the energy go?
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 08, 2020, 11:09:03 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 08, 2020, 09:47:50 AM
If we charge a 100uf cap to 100v and connect it to a 100uf cap with 0v we end up with 50v in each cap, we lose 50% of the total energy that was in the first cap to start. Calculate the energy total in 2 100uf caps at 50v each. Where did the energy go?
Mags

From capacitor/caps to cups :

You have two cups in front,not caps ::) ,one full with water and the other empty !
Now you fill the second = empty cup half-full by the full cup with water !

Now you have two halffull, or one halfempty and an other halffull cups :

I do not think that somebody has to explain where the water from the first cup became lost !?
100% same water content,in two cups now as 100% capacitance in Joule/Farad in 2 capacitors now !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on June 08, 2020, 11:13:37 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 08, 2020, 09:47:50 AM
If we charge a 100uf cap to 100v and connect it to a 100uf cap with 0v we end up with 50v in each cap, we lose 50% of the total energy that was in the first cap to start. Calculate the energy total in 2 100uf caps at 50v each. Where did the energy go?
Mags

Not sure what your expectation is here, if you take a full glass of water, and pour half of it in another empty glass now you have two half filled glasses. However if you raise the ambient potential of the first glass above it's equal potential... like a higher position, you can siphon all the water from one glass to another.

This is a classic problem with OU, we don't consider the "outside" and we don't integrate it with more water.

Consider this idea with capacitors, you have two plates separated by a dialectic. In this model however, the lower plate is attached to a mover, like a motor, so the plate can spin. Charge the plates, and you have difference in potential, now disconnect the upper plate so those charges wont move on the upper plate, and place both plates in a magnetic field. Spin the lower plate, if you place an AV plug on the plate you should be able direct the movement through a load, back to ground. If you don't think this is possible, stick a tube in a pool fill it with water and spin the tube over your head. It creates that siphon effect. You push charges off with the mover, and the capacitor draws the charges back because the plates maintains an equal charge level between the upper plate that is stationary and the flow being generated by the mover on the lower plate.

It is a charge pump, with the limit of the Farads of the capacitor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on June 08, 2020, 11:30:48 AM

Besides the limit of the capacitor, can you show just how any of this can produce OU? Or is it still less than OU? Emptying the glasses requires additional energy. As well as raising the first glass higher than the second one. So, still less than OU, when calculating the losses. Or not? Can you show a video of how you think that there is any actual gain. NickZ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on June 08, 2020, 12:52:55 PM

Quote from: NickZ on June 08, 2020, 11:30:48 AM
Besides the limit of the capacitor, can you show just how any of this can produce OU? Or is it still less than OU? Emptying the glasses requires additional energy. As well as raising the first glass higher than the second one. So, still less than OU, when calculating the losses. Or not? Can you show a video of how you think that there is any actual gain. NickZ

Ha , Ha, in a stable world what you say is so, but what happens if we tip the ballanc a bit supose i freez the water then i end up with more why because it expands.

Now how can we do that with electricity ? well what is electricity ? is it an electron or a magnetic component of existance and then there is the wire, so what quality has the wire got and how could we alter it if thats the problem but is it?

AB

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on June 08, 2020, 01:35:55 PM

The biggest problem is making limitations and not seeing the potential from the larger picture. You see a capacitor, and that's all. But a capacitor can also a coil, and coil can be a capacitor. A plate is also a conductor.

For Example: Look at a Tesla transmitting coil and receiving coil. They are coils, but they are capacitively coupled, ergo two plates of a capacitor. You see the Earth as ground, but it also is a conductor, ergo it can maintain a standing wave (as Tesla said).

We see energy as quantity, but it most likely infinite, as the motion is in the universe. The big bang set everything in motion, and like your hand outside your car window we only harness it when we have the ability to interface the difference (i.e., slow it down).

My Theories anyway... ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: pauldude000 on June 08, 2020, 06:27:56 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 08, 2020, 09:47:50 AM
If we charge a 100uf cap to 100v and connect it to a 100uf cap with 0v we end up with 50v in each cap, we lose 50% of the total energy that was in the first cap to start. Calculate the energy total in 2 100uf caps at 50v each. Where did the energy go?
Mags

Very good question, Mag. A full half of the energy is lost and no discernable work has been done, in that it is not dissipated in the form of heat or emr. Half of the energy available within the system jut goes "poof", so to speak. These are the types of questions I like as the electrical energy had to be transformed, but into what? Not electrostatic field, as that is what is being measured. Not electricity, as the voltage has lowered not raised. The available E has become 1/2E no matter how you look at the system.

For those who do not know how to do the math:

E=.5CV^2 (energy in joules stored as an electric field in a capacitor equals one half of the capacitance in farads times the square of the voltage in volts)

The first 100uF (.0001 F) is charged to 100V, so E(joules) = (.5 X .0001) X (100 X 100) = .00005 X 10000 = .5 Joules total stored energy

The second has two 100uF charged at 50v each, or 2((.5 X .0001) X (50 X 50)) = 2(.00005 X 2500) = 2 X .125 = .250 Joules total stored energy

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The problem you have here is that it is not a closed system. The capacitor you charged is system 1. When connected in parallel with the second capacitor thus equalizing charge you have system 2. When they are disconnected from each other to check voltage of each individual you have yet system 3. Something is happening there, no doubt, as it indicates something not identified in which the extra lost energy was stored or converted in system 2. I think the energy was probably stored, but I cannot prove that. It could have been converted into some unidentified force as well. Either way, call it system 4.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 08, 2020, 07:17:04 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 08, 2020, 11:09:03 AM
From capacitor/caps to cups :

You have two cups in front,not caps ::) ,one full with water and the other empty !
Now you fill the second = empty cup half-full by the full cup with water !

Now you have two halffull, or one halfempty and an other halffull cups :

I do not think that somebody has to explain where the water from the first cup became lost !?
100% same water content,in two cups now as 100% capacitance in Joule/Farad in 2 capacitors now !

Well that understanding is part of the key to where it went.
Think about it this way.... 1 full cup and 1 empty cup. In the end we still have a total amount of water to fill 1 cup....Same with the electron charges in the caps... In this instance we should say, how many more electrons are on the negative plate of the first cap at 100v, then how many are there in total on the 2 caps negative plates?(in total excess electrons compared to a cap with 0v)

Where the work or energy happens is in the action of lifting the full cup to the brim of the empty cup and pouring the water into the empty cup till both are half full.. What useful work did we accomplish? In this case it most likely took more than 50% of the total energy of the stored water of the first cup by having to lift it in the first place, where as a cap, the higher voltage of the first cap has nothing to do with the height physically of the full cap and the empty cap. Its voltage is already at a high point electrically. So to associate it better, with the water and containers we would need them on level surface with a hose and valve at the bottoms of each container to be equal to the cap function. With that config, we could say that if we ran a small water pump to run a small gen and the valve and hose were inline, then whatever we got out of the generator during the evening out process from one container to the other, then we could say we got some work out of the transfer rather than just moving water and losing energy in the process. So in the cap to cap process we basically wasted the 50% in the process because we did nothing with the transfer other than release the initial pressure into a container 2 times as wide.. And supposedly when we have the 2 containers half full, the amount of work that can be done is 50% less than the 1 full container can do.
Interesting, isnt it?
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: XR IX on June 08, 2020, 10:01:55 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 08, 2020, 07:17:04 PM
Where the work or energy happens is in the action of lifting the full cup to the brim of the empty cup and pouring the water into the empty cup till both are half full..

This is fun topic. So I think we have to recognize the difference in potential to move to a neutral state. The two 50v caps produced at discharge, doesn't retain the potential the single cap had at 100v. The word "discharge" is the relevant idea. Though I used the example of water, you have to understand the relationships that are and aren't the same. Returning to a lower state is probably flows like water, raising it to a higher level is like winding a spring. If you ever popped a cap, you know what happens when you wind the spring beyond it's breakdown voltage. The capacity is reached when the charges accumulate on the plates, and the plates get full. The charge rate is not linear, because as you place more like charges, they resist being placed there - the action is like compression.

When you discharged the first cap, into the 2nd cap, the energy to bring it to the higher potential was lost, as you can't return the the energy from the 2nd cap into the 1st cap because they are at equal states. You need to wind the spring (build the compression) of either cap to allow it to flow to a lower state capacity.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 09, 2020, 07:56:37 AM

#8552 :
Peak and average !
You have a bottle full with water ,open without cap :
you turn the bottle slowly : water comes out
you turn the bottle fast : no(very low) water comes out
action/reaction time !

Water with 80° ,60°,20°,0° C,0° F,0°K degree(s) : temperature and movement freedom degrees linear/rotatory/translatory( viscosity,Engeler units)

This is in a capacitor(spring : Lord Kelvin analogon) similar

Scaling f.e. Richter or Beaufort : never linear,ever dynamical : scale down plenitude(-x),scale up magnitude(+x)

The (non expected accelerated) movement in nano-tubes !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 09, 2020, 10:01:15 AM

There is more to the story. Will post it later today after work
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 09, 2020, 10:23:15 PM

Ok sorry if i got here again ok?,
Don't worry it's not my plan to indulge here more ok?
I just want to spice and add some salt into the topic of
Capacitor ok?.
Here it is:
First is we always have to pour or discharge the cap
Into a lot lot lot lot lot of coil and the very thing that we
Should know is the controller of discharger, what i mean is
As much as possible we only need an electron movement or a very
Very very short movement is all it takes to energized the bunch of coils
And collectors.
A very huge of magnetic field is created in just a very very small movement
An electron point of move or push is all we need everyone. Imagine that.
Offcourse the strenght of magnetic field will still depends on the primary voltage
,size of coils and the faster we can sudden stop the movement.
Ok.
Thank you and goodbye
Covid is getting nearer and nearer in my vicinity i'm really in danger
Maybe and i think i'm going to discharge the capacitor in me to kill the virus if
I got infected ;D

Bye friends probably this is my really last post. :)
By the way just to give hopè to new comers
There is one free energy solution in dC and one in AC and in capacitor, tesla switch and radiant energy receiver ok?
Currently i'm thinking about and will try to combine different kinds of metals with americium 231 and a magnet finding a natural pouring of electron movement continously. In that sense
We only need a vibrating relay to make power.

Bye everyone
GOD Bless all of you :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 10:56:15 AM

100uF , 20V discharge parallel into another 100uF.
Now you have 2 caps of 100uF , 10V each.

Connect them in series, 2x100uF, 10V and you got output of 100uF, 20V.
There is no energy loss.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 12:31:11 PM

As far as I know, there was 2 members trying to exploit cap conundrum.
Both were nailed to the cross by the members eventually.
Aldo, they both gave interesting solutions.

One was to use load while caps equalize,
first cap discharge trough resistor, load into second and
do some work, until both caps equalize in voltage.
And then with the help of serial law, the energy is returned to source.
It involved complicating??? switching of 3 switch.
Both members was buried before they had chance to present their project all the way through.
I stayed in contact with them for a while, and did some experiments
which showed me that in some cases source was spent just a little and result was positive.

Anyway, it was hard to do it with mosfets, and there was lots of circuitry involved,
and in time I abandon idea and left the project to sit in corner for some future events.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Void on June 10, 2020, 01:16:30 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 10:56:15 AM
100uF , 20V discharge parallel into another 100uF.
Now you have 2 caps of 100uF , 10V each.

Connect them in series, 2x100uF, 10V and you got output of 100uF, 20V.
There is no energy loss.

Sorry, but that is completely wrong.
Analyzing this only requires very basic electronics knowledge.

Stored energy of a 100uF cap at 20V: 20mJ
Stored energy of 100uF cap at 10V: 5mJ
Total energy of two 100uF caps at 10V: 5mJ + 5mJ = 10 mJ (Yes, 50% of the energy is already lost)
Stored energy of two 100uF caps in series, each cap at 10V (Note: two 100uF caps in series equals 50uF, so we have 50uF at 20V): 10mJ

Clearly, 50% of the energy was already lost before ever having connected a load,
so there would only be 50% of the energy left for powering a load in your above scenario.
This type of approach very obviously does not work.

This is the same reason why Bedini's 4 battery ("Tesla Switch") or 3 battery setup system can not work.
Basic analysis indicates the batteries will run down.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 01:33:17 PM

Quote from: Void on June 10, 2020, 01:16:30 PM
Note: two 100uF caps in series equals 50uF, so we have 50uF at 20V): 10mJ

2x100uF = 200uf = in series 200/2 = 100uF, 20V

How you came from 200uF to 50uF?
Serial law states that in case 2 caps, their capacitance will be halved (200uF/2) and voltage doubled.

I don't wanna go down into this rabbit hole just as those members did and had nailed to cross.

So, for me this story is over, you are right and let it stays that way.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 10, 2020, 03:24:02 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 01:33:17 PM
2x100uF = 200uf = in series 200/2 = 100uF, 20V

How you came from 200uF to 50uF?
Serial law states that in case 2 caps, their capacitance will be halved (200uF/2) and voltage doubled.

I don't wanna go down into this rabbit hole just as those members did and had nailed to cross.

So, for me this story is over, you are right and let it stays that way.

(2) 100uf caps in parallel = 200uf
(2) 100uf caps in series =50uf

You need more study time before you nail the story to the cross. ::)

(2) 100uf caps 50v each in parallel = 200uf at 50v
(2) 100uf caps 50v each in series = 50uf at 100v

Now, as you may need to, find an online calculator for energy in a capacitor and run these figures...

(1) 100uf cap at 100v = ?
(1) 200uf cap at 50v = ?

Are they the same?

For a Sr. Member, you should know this.... ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on June 10, 2020, 03:38:43 PM

Mags: So now you are :) making us work for it... Thanks for the reminder.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 10, 2020, 04:14:18 PM

The story continues...

When I was told this by Sr. members years ago, I was in denial at first. And once the calculations were made, I was still in disbelief a bit. It was said that the 50% was lost due to resistance(no matter how small or large the resistance) and heat during the action of connecting the say 100v cap to the 0v cap. Seemed plausible, but something just didnt seem right still.

Then the Sr. members gave an example that enabled me to argue that they were wrong and it was not the resistance that caused the loss at all. They said if we looked at it in an ideal world of no resistance, only then would we not experience the loss in the cap to cap experiment. Well that had me going even more into disbelief. My mind was running like a full steam locomotive. So doing some calculations, in the supposed ideal world, having 1 cap at 100v connected to a 0v cap, we would need to end up with 70.7v in each cap to still have 100% of the original energy of the first cap we started off with of 100v.

Now I was on the right track. There was something terribly wrong here. Even more wrong than I had initially thought. I made analogies in my head. Then it hit me.. 'Hmm. How could I take 10gal of water in 1 bucket and end up with 2 buckets that contain 7.07gal each???? We cannot.

There is a specific law in electricity that proves we cannot end up with 2 caps of 70.7v each from 1 cap of 100v in the experiment described, neither real world nor ideal world of no resistance. ???? ;)

If we have a capacitor at 0v that was very precise as to its value of capacitance, and we were able to count the number of electrons pulled from the + plate and stored to the - plate, we should be able to calculate the exact voltage across that cap with extreme accuracy.

So. with all this, I was able to argue that it was not the resistance and heat during the transfer of cap to cap that caused the losses. In the real world or ideal, we still lost 50% mostly because we didnt do anything with the transfer action. Whether we did anything with it like run a motor, a light bulb, heat from a resistor, or even ideally where no energy was expelled beyond what was stored in the caps, there will always be 50% of the initial energy gone in the end of the experiment.

So. How would we explain where the energy went in the ideal no resistance world?? Where did it convert to??? ;)

In the real world where resistance is applied, did we get that heat for free???? ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on June 10, 2020, 04:57:44 PM

No... No free lunch in the real world. As free energy is killed by each and every component used. The more of them the less for us. Right? So how do we get to OU. Remember OU... As an old timer here, you should know how, by now. But,...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 10, 2020, 05:12:30 PM

Quote from: NickZ on June 10, 2020, 04:57:44 PM
No... No free lunch in the real world. As free energy is killed by each and every component used. The more of them the less for us. Right? So how do we get to OU. Remember OU... As an old timer here, you should know how, by now. But, no...

In the strange case of cap to cap, of which you will not see in any circuits ever, Im just saying that whether we use that transfer to do something, or whether it were an ideal world where the energy IS just lost no matter what, then anything we do with that transfer is free in a sense. The idea of my findings is that here we do have a case where energy was not converted to another form when it came to the ideal format. I find it to be a very interesting example and want people to realize what is actually going on when ever they run across this problem in the future.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 10, 2020, 05:16:21 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 10, 2020, 05:12:30 PM
In the strange case of cap to cap, of which you will not see in any circuits ever, Im just saying that whether we use that transfer to do something, or whether it were an ideal world where the energy IS just lost no matter what, then anything we do with that transfer is free in a sense. The idea of my findings is that here we do have a case where energy was not converted to another form when it came to the ideal format. I find it to be a very interesting example and want people to realize what is actually going on when ever they run across this problem in the future.

Mags

Like this. If we have a real superconducting setup of the cap to cap, and we still lose 50% in the action and the energy did not convert to another form, then we should be able to say that we can create energy from nothing in a way. May be a better way of saying it, but you get my drift. Just promoting a bit of hope. ;)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 05:32:26 PM

That is 50% losses for 2 caps.

If we have 1x100uF, 20V and 10x100uF empty caps,
in each empty cap will be loss of 50%??? , 10x50% loss, if we try to equalize them parallel.
At the end empty parallel caps will eat all the energy from first one in the way you describe.
Is that so?
How much energy will remain in that case?

If I start with 100uF, 20V and I end up with 100uF, 20V, I will lost 50% of energy no matter that
values on the start and end are same?

So start 100uF, 20V and end 100uf, 20V does not contain same energy?

You are dividing 20 / 4 = 5
but then you adding 5 + 5 = 10 to get on the same point you started (20)
Can you mix operators ( * and / ) with ( + and - ) , because they are not the same order.

OF course, answer is, I don't know basic math.
For you 100uF, 20V and second caps serial 2x100uF, 10V (100uF, 20V in series) does not contain same energy?

But if you use step down transformer from 1A, 100V to 2A, 50V the energy is same (power)?
So in transformers it is the same, just in caps are not?

If you say so, then it must be true.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 05:52:22 PM

If that what you say is true then if we double voltage on cap,
we should expect 4 times the energy?

Stick has two ends, so it can work in other way too...

Example:
We have 100uF, 20V and we raise voltage to 40V, then we have
100uF, 40V and 4 times larger energy?

Then it is not needed to search for free energy, this is solution,
just raise voltage in cap and energy is limitless.

Good luck with that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 07:35:36 PM

Your great knowledge comes from Wikipedia which says Q/2 and V/2,
and you accepted that without thinking.

In our case there is NO Q/2,
there is just V/2.
Our capacitors did not change capacity, they remained 100uF at the start,
just as they were 100uF at the end.

No capacity change, so Q/2 can not be applied.
There is only voltage change.
Capacity of 2 capacitors remains constant, 100uF.

Nobody ever said nothing about capacity change, none.

Can you understand there is no change in capacity in our capacitors?

There is no conundrum.
For this case there is only law of parallel and serial capacitors connection with constant capacitance of 100uF.

Electricity is not water, but caps are containers.
From 1 liter of gas at 10 psi, you can get 2 liter at 5 psi of gas if the volume of containers are equal,
but you can not do it with water. Water can not be pressed.
Analogy of gas pressure and volumes is more closely to our capacitors and voltage analogy then water analogy.
Voltage is pressure which can press charges close to each other with increase of voltage.

Otherwise, parallel and serial connection law would not work,
and we will have major violation of that laws,
laws which happened to be true for a long time,
and not from yesterday.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 10, 2020, 07:39:17 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 05:32:26 PM
That is 50% losses for 2 caps.

If we have 1x100uF, 20V and 10x100uF empty caps,
in each empty cap will be loss of 50%??? , 10x50% loss, if we try to equalize them parallel.
At the end empty parallel caps will eat all the energy from first one in the way you describe.
Is that so?
How much energy will remain in that case?

If I start with 100uF, 20V and I end up with 100uF, 20V, I will lost 50% of energy no matter that
values on the start and end are same?

So start 100uF, 20V and end 100uf, 20V does not contain same energy?

You are dividing 20 / 4 = 5
but then you adding 5 + 5 = 10 to get on the same point you started (20)
Can you mix operators ( * and / ) with ( + and - ) , because they are not the same order.

OF course, answer is, I don't know basic math.
For you 100uF, 20V and second caps serial 2x100uF, 10V (100uF, 20V in series) does not contain same energy?

But if you use step down transformer from 1A, 100V to 2A, 50V the energy is same (power)?
So in transformers it is the same, just in caps are not?

If you say so, then it must be true.

You are not figuring in what it takes in energy to fill the cap to 40v vs 20v. At 20v there is an amount of energy there which is 20mj for 100uf. And 100uf at 40v is 80mj. So are you saying it doesnt take more energy to charge the 20v cap up to 40v than it did to just charge the cap to 20v in the first place? ???
I understand what you are thinking, but it is wrong. Just like in a car audio amplifier, if the rails are +20v and -20v and the rms sine output before clipping is 14.14v, then that divided by 4ohms speaker is rms 3.535amps, then the power sent to the speaker is 49.9849w.. But if the rails are 40v + and - we calculate the same. 28.28v sine just below clipping gives us 7.07amps rms to the speaker which is 199.9396w.

So you cant think of energy and voltage numbers as linear. get it? ;)
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 10, 2020, 07:52:37 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 07:35:36 PM
Your great knowledge comes from Wikipedia which says Q/2 and V/2,
and you accepted that without thinking.

In our case there is NO Q/2,
there is just V/2.
Our capacitors did not change capacity, they remained 100uF at the start,
just as they were 100uF at the end.

No capacity change, so Q/2 can not be applied.
There is only voltage change.
Capacity of 2 capacitors remains constant, 100uF.

Nobody ever said nothing about capacity change, none.

Can you understand there is no change in capacity in our capacitors?

There is no conundrum.
For this case there is only law of parallel and serial capacitors connection with constant capacitance of 100uF.

Otherwise, parallel and serial connection law would not work.

Again you are missing the point.
If we have 1 cap 100uf at 100v and we calculate the energy, and then do the cap to cap into another 100uf cap at 0v then end up with 2 100uf caps at 50v each, there is no coming back from that. 50% was lost. No matter how you reconfigure the caps, parallel, series, the total amount of energy left after the fact is only 50% of what you started with. Lets say we connected the 100v cap to the 0v cap and we leave them connected, we then have 2 100uf caps in parallel, which equals 200uf total and 50v total. There was 100% more energy in the 100uf cap at 100v than there is in a 200uf cap at 50v. 50% of 100 is 50. 100% of 50 is 50. So 100uf 100v has 100% more energy than the total of 2 100uf caps at 50v, or to say also 200uf(2 100uf caps in parallel) at 50v.
Trust me. I have this down and imprinted. Unless you do your own real calculations and overall research, you 'cannot' change my mind on this. Cannot.
You come in like an all knowing being when really you are totally in the dark. That is not my problem any further here.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 08:06:24 PM

I am not here to make you think differently.

I am here for you to change my mind.

I start with 100uF, 20V.
I make parallel 2 caps 100uF, 10V.
Connect them in series, I end up with 2 caps which act as one 100uF, 20V,
according to law of serial connection.

Start = 100uF, 20V
End = 100uF, 20V

How the start and end have same values and different energy levels?

Something is wrong, isn't it.
I studied cap conundrum and it violates parallel, serial law of connection.

But if you say that is the case, let it be.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 08:15:32 PM

When you got more on output, it violates law of conservation of energy.

Now you lose energy in thin air and always by 50%, strange, and it does not violate law of conservation?

Stick has 2 ends, but for you only one is right.
For you it does not apply for loss, but only for gain?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 10, 2020, 08:19:49 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 08:06:24 PM
I am not here to make you think differently.

I am here for you to change my mind.

I start with 100uF, 20V.
I make parallel 2 caps 100uF, 10V.
Connect them in series, I end up with 2 caps which act as one 100uF, 20V,
according to law of serial connection.

Start = 100uF, 20V
End = 100uF, 20V

How the start and end have same values and different energy levels?

Something is wrong, isn't it.
I studied cap conundrum and it violates parallel, serial law of connection.

But if you say that is the case, let it be.

No.
2 100uf caps in series becomes 50uf total. If you cannot find that info anywhere, then you did not look. The only other thing with the series caps is that you have increased the voltage 'rating' to double..

2 100uf caps rated at 50v each. if put in parallel, then we have 200uf rated at 50v. In series we end up with 50uf that can 'handle' 100v, 50v each in series connection.Pretty simple. Those facts have not changed since I started in electronics at 10yrs old. Radioshack kits.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 10, 2020, 08:30:03 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 07:35:36 PM

Electricity is not water, but caps are containers.
From 1 liter of gas at 10 psi, you can get 2 liter at 5 psi of gas if the volume of containers are equal,
but you can not do it with water. Water can not be pressed.
Analogy of gas pressure and volumes is more closely to our capacitors and voltage analogy then water analogy.
Voltage is pressure which can press charges close to each other with increase of voltage.

Voltage is pressure. It is the pressure that causes current to flow, just like pressurized air, and just like the pressure measured at the bottom of a water container, the more water, increased water height, more pressure. it is an excellent way to teach electrical things in a way many without electrical experience can understand.
20ft tall water tank 2ft dia. Connect a hose to the bottom of the tank. release the nozzle to water your garden. Would you not have more water flow with 20ft of water than say 5ft of water in the tank?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 08:55:51 PM

Yes, you are right.
I was wrong for the serial cap calculation.

You changed my mind.
Sorry for the trouble, you helped.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 09:00:38 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 10, 2020, 08:30:03 PM
Voltage is pressure. It is the pressure that causes current to flow, just like pressurized air, and just like the pressure measured at the bottom of a water container, the more water, increased water height, more pressure. it is an excellent way to teach electrical things in a way many without electrical experience can understand.
20ft tall water tank 2ft dia. Connect a hose to the bottom of the tank. release the nozzle to water your garden. Would you not have more water flow with 20ft of water than say 5ft of water in the tank?

Mags

It will if you use gravity to assist.

Try that with water outside earth gravity field.
But you can compress gas in tanks even in space outside gravity influence.
You can not compress water without gas outside the gravity well of earth.

That is why I used gas analogy.

If the voltage is pressure and we use medium which can not be pressed then gas is more suitable,
because it can be pressed.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 09:17:01 PM

Thank you Mags for clearing the cap conundrum,
which is not conundrum at all,
It is just how parallel and serial connection behave.
There is nothing else to solve.
It is what it is.

Thanks.

P.S. Cap conundrum bothered me, and now it is easily explained.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 11, 2020, 06:11:00 AM

#8574 :
But what if this " phantom pressure or phantom force" can be recovered and used as capacitive coil circuit arrangement,displacement current : but "wattless power" !?

About linear and dynamic :

DE2733719 Chitta Mukherjee "Electrical generator ..." https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19790215&CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19790215&CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1#)

Magnetic field strength H and magnetic flux density B related , force as BIL and the needed counterforce in VA !
When B=1 and Counter-B = 2 1/2V and 1/2A = 1/4 VA or 25% VA counter-force

When B=1 and Counter-B = 3 1/3V and 1/3A = 1/9 VA or 11,1%VA counter-force

When B=1 and Counter-B = 4 1/4V and 1/4A =1/16VA or 6,25%VA counter-force

Push&pull lever effect

An other linear/dynamic example :

we see an one thousand watt and 1000 RPM nominal windgenerator his propeller rotating,

by low wind and 10 RPM generator shaft : 10 RPM is the 1/100 part from 1000 RPM nominal
The electricity generation : 1000 W x (1/100)^3 = 0,001 W = 1/1000000 the nominal generator power output

little stronger wind : 100 RPM propeller generator shaft rotation ,
100 RPM the 1/10 part from 1000 RPM nominal
The electricity generation : 1000 W x (1/10)^3= 1 W = 1/1000 the nominal generator power output

Not only rotations,the internal torque gives (angular) moment=(angular)force !

Barometer,Hygrometer,Thermometer,Anemometer,Seismometer,DMM
The scale and the metric

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.meteorologyshop.eu%2Fmeteo-blog%2Fgrundlagen-der-windmesstechnik (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.meteorologyshop.eu%2Fmeteo-blog%2Fgrundlagen-der-windmesstechnik)

from www.arestov.de (http://www.arestov.de) ( old page)
Example: A wind turbine with a nominal 400 W (manufacturer's specification) generated at a wind force of approx. 20 m / sec. an output of 70 watts. After converting the generator to combined windings, the system delivered with a wind force of 5-6 m / sec. 140 watts. At 10-12 m / sec. were generated over 320 watts !

FIRST IMPROVEMENT
From 20 m/sec. = 70 W Beaufort scale 9 to 10-12 m/sec. = 320 W Beaufort scale 6

The point to think and for experiments :
we have not only the diminuation from wind velocity spead

from 20 m/sec and 70 W output
to 12-10 m/ per sec and 70 W but to 320 W

First advantage : instead 20 m only 12 m/sec improvement wind factor 4,65
Second advantage: after first improvement not only 70 W output but 70 W x improvement factor = 320 W

20 m-sec /12 m-sec = 1,666 (1,666)^3 = 4,65 speed to force ratio-squared = 21,38 times improvement = 1,66^6

David Yurth :
Induction Coil Coating Increases Generator Output by One-Third – Coating the induction coils of generators with a proprieta[/font]ry material increases their output by one-third using the same amount of fuel.

SECOND IMPROVEMENT
By steady Beaufort 6 condition steady nominal 400 W generation from " modified" 400 W nominal wind turbine

free energy to enforced and concentrated energy only one side/two axis/3 axis compressed chamber

Turbine concentrator
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860911&CC=DE&NR=3607644A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860911&CC=DE&NR=3607644A1&KC=A1#)

THIRD IMPROVEMENT
By steady Beaufort 4 steady nominal 400 W generation

Possible improvement : less material or higher generator output
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130314&CC=US&NR=2013062983A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130314&CC=US&NR=2013062983A1&KC=A1#)

with Linevich-Arestov,Kango Iida or Andreas Sumera rotative torque converter(speed amplifyier) down to Beaufort 2

this improvements are natural part from this "compressed (dry/humid)air wind turbines" :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140917&CC=CN&NR=104047814A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140917&CC=CN&NR=104047814A&KC=A#)

and the "Fanerator" : https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9318 (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9318)

2. The High Velocity Electric Fan (Blowing directly on the PMA
Blades from a distance of only 8 inches)

transforming this in Beaufort scale ?! Distance to propeller/rotor ! Force in velocity/speed !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on June 11, 2020, 08:40:50 AM

Just few quotes..

"As the positive lines of force manifest results
through conductors, the negative currents and fields can only be
activated through non-conductors."

Contactee George Van Tassel

"The opposite terminal of the condenser being connected to ground,
which may be considered as a vast reservoir of negative electricity"

Tesla

Mark TPU only worked on one side, if flipped not.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 11, 2020, 11:37:48 AM

Quote from: nix85 on June 11, 2020, 08:40:50 AM
Just few quotes..

"As the positive lines of force manifest results
through conductors, the negative currents and fields can only be
activated through non-conductors."

Contactee George Van Tassel

"The opposite terminal of the condenser being connected to ground,
which may be considered as a vast reservoir of negative electricity"

Tesla

Mark TPU only worked on one side, if flipped not.

Havnt done anything with ground since my crystal radio days. But the quote has me thinking. Say we have just a plate of copper and then a ground post. If we connect a cap to the gnd and the plat, will the cap charge? Being the ground is said to be a vast reservoir of negative, after a bit the plate may become positive and cap no longer charges. So discharging the cap would reset the plate charge and repeat. Will try it as I have what I need to try
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on June 11, 2020, 11:47:06 AM

Maybe place a small flash light incandescent light bulb on the cap, or close by it to draw a small load that can keeps the cap from fully saturating, and stopping any further charges. Or two caps and a small bulb between them, as you were saying.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 11, 2020, 06:28:06 PM

Was just a thought. Ive sort of neglected the ground for some time because I couldnt envision the full use beyond a crystal set. But, if we look at a crystal set, the coils usually seem of very thin wire, so not really a good carrier of currents we would want from it. I think. But probably a thing to do would be to have different antennas for diff freq ranges and look for some potentially strong freq that may be useful and use a spectrum analyzer using those ant. Then make an LC for that freq with stuff that could carry higher currents than what we have seen. Just thinking

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Raycathode on June 12, 2020, 08:07:24 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 11, 2020, 06:28:06 PM
Was just a thought. Ive sort of neglected the ground for some time because I couldnt envision the full use beyond a crystal set. But, if we look at a crystal set, the coils usually seem of very thin wire, so not really a good carrier of currents we would want from it. I think. But probably a thing to do would be to have different antennas for diff freq ranges and look for some potentially strong freq that may be useful and use a spectrum analyzer using those ant. Then make an LC for that freq with stuff that could carry higher currents than what we have seen. Just thinking

Mags

[/quote]On the EARTH section the cable from your ground cable needs to be tuned to same length as tank coil!
you will then get a powerful amplification. I found that out as a kid when I use to listen to European radio stations as that kid
it would drive a high impedance loud speaker, it was terrific.

Raymondo

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on June 12, 2020, 09:31:01 AM

Seeking hertzian waves is a blind alley. You ask if there is this etheric pressure, longitudinal waves from space, how come we don't detect them, what frequency all ask. Do you feel your own weight? Each nucleus of your body is resisting part of the spectrum of these vibrations that we call gravity. But there is much more than gravity. For example there is negative gravity at 1/3 higher frequency and opposite polarity (according to great Edgar Hollingshead, all my respect goes to him), there is vitality, there is magnetism, so much varieties of subtle etheric currents.

More on etheric atoms and currents. http://villesresearch.com/ether.html

There is a whole untapped world of neutral etheric currents, non hertzian apparently longitudinal waves. They seem to be pulsed DC or have a strong pulsed DC component. Frequencies don't have to be high, we know TPU worked around 5KHz and James Schwartz said he uses 5 frequencies based on Schuman resonance, probably harmonics, but he is not to be trusted, he lied about "72-73 elements" in those "neutrino rods" just so people would not understand how simple it was!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsJwRznsf4o

Those plates are bismuth and aluminum if i remember correctly and thin wire coils inbetween.

PS I corresponded with Schwartz, i first asked him really nicely to tell me how to make those rods. You probably guessed, no reply.

Then i wrote again telling him what a thief he is, then his hurt ego responded, but of course he revealed nothing.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on June 12, 2020, 10:17:00 AM

I propose that so called cold electricity is part of the spectrum of negative gravity.

Energy from the sun comes mostly as positive neutral, nonpolarized energy, electrons if you will. How can it be both positive and neutral you ask, neutral simply denotes non hertzian waves which would show as circles on oscilloscope instead of sinewaves, but these waves can also be positive and negative, positive ones come from our male sun, and our female earth reflects back the opposite.

Positive manifest

LIGHT
HEAT
WEIGHT

Negative (reflected) manifests

DARK (as substantial as light with it's own 7 "colors" of darkness)
COLD
LEVITATION

..but upon hitting the magnetic field and top layers of the atmosphere these electrons or bubbles or neutral energy merge with similar ones and produce polarized aka hertzian waves we perceive as light and heat, but most of the energy does not get converted and part of the spectrum of that neutral energy we feel as gravity.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 12, 2020, 06:29:20 PM

Tried an AV plug, well a couple with different size caps. Depending on the ant, of different lengths, got up to 9v. 22uf took a bit of time to charge. 1uf was much quicker and a .1uf seemed to charge almost instantly. So could probably get more with more experimentation. But so far a small solar cell does much better.
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on June 13, 2020, 04:07:32 AM

Kapanadze, Don Smith..

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on June 13, 2020, 06:54:35 AM

I mentioned on some other thread how some guy in Eric Dollard's lecture from late 90s i think on youtube asked the audience to ask themselves how no flux cuts transformer secondary, yet voltage is induced.

This model with etheric smoke rings and magnetic field just an axis of the ring would explain that beautifully!

http://freenrg.info/Physics/Scalar_Vector_Pot_And_Rick_Andersen/Rick_Andersen_Ortho.html

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 13, 2020, 07:36:19 AM

Quote from: nix85 on June 13, 2020, 06:54:35 AM
I mentioned on some other thread how some guy in Eric Dollard's lecture from late 90s i think on youtube asked the audience to ask themselves how no flux cuts transformer secondary, yet voltage is induced.

This model with etheric smoke rings and magnetic field just an axis of the ring would explain that beautifully!

http://freenrg.info/Physics/Scalar_Vector_Pot_And_Rick_Andersen/Rick_Andersen_Ortho.html (http://freenrg.info/Physics/Scalar_Vector_Pot_And_Rick_Andersen/Rick_Andersen_Ortho.html)

But happens not also here a " Magnus effect", the formation from a " death - Kalmen/ standing still - zone ?

http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3217763&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en (http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3217763&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en)

Furthermore, the flow velocity in the vicinity of the axis is reduced to such an extent that there can be talk of a standstill in the air, which is then also accelerated towards the wrong side. The yield of the wind energy received is correspondingly low.

this eddies or whirls to understand is very important by the effective application as "sputting process" of solar-/thermovoltaic panels :
https://www.google.com/search?q=solar+panel+sputting&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=solar+panel+sputting&aqs=chrome..69i57.11192j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=solar+panel+sputting&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=solar+panel+sputting&aqs=chrome..69i57.11192j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputter_deposition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputter_deposition)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 13, 2020, 08:01:11 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 10, 2020, 07:39:17 PM
You are not figuring in what it takes in energy to fill the cap to 40v vs 20v. At 20v there is an amount of energy there which is 20mj for 100uf. And 100uf at 40v is 80mj. So are you saying it doesnt take more energy to charge the 20v cap up to 40v than it did to just charge the cap to 20v in the first place? ???
I understand what you are thinking, but it is wrong. Just like in a car audio amplifier, if the rails are +20v and -20v and the rms sine output before clipping is 14.14v, then that divided by 4ohms speaker is rms 3.535amps, then the power sent to the speaker is 49.9849w.. But if the rails are 40v + and - we calculate the same. 28.28v sine just below clipping gives us 7.07amps rms to the speaker which is 199.9396w.

So you cant think of energy and voltage numbers as linear. get it? ;)
Mags

https://static.weg.net/medias/downloadcenter/ha0/h5f/WEG-motors-specification-of-electric-motors-50039409-brochure-english-web.pdf (https://static.weg.net/medias/downloadcenter/ha0/h5f/WEG-motors-specification-of-electric-motors-50039409-brochure-english-web.pdf)

page 7 : torque = force x distance

page 11 : Effective value of voltage and current ( U and I )

It is the value of the continuous voltage and current which generate an output corresponding to that generated by the alternated current. We can identify the effective value as: U = Umáx / 2 e I = Imáx / 2 .

For example: If we connect a "resistance" to an AC circuit ( cos ϕ = 1 ) with Umax = 311 V and I max = 14. 14 A. the developed output power will be:

P = 2.200 Watts = 2.2 kW

Note: usually, when referring to voltage and current, for example, 220 V or 10 A, without mentioning any other factor, we are referring to voltage or current effective values, which are normally applied.

Peak and average !

311 V x (5/7) x 14,4 A (5/7) to 220 V x 10 A = 2200 VA

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 13, 2020, 02:32:02 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 13, 2020, 08:01:11 AM

https://static.weg.net/medias/downloadcenter/ha0/h5f/WEG-motors-specification-of-electric-motors-50039409-brochure-english-web.pdf (https://static.weg.net/medias/downloadcenter/ha0/h5f/WEG-motors-specification-of-electric-motors-50039409-brochure-english-web.pdf)

page 7 : torque = force x distance

page 11 : Effective value of voltage and current ( U and I )

It is the value of the continuous voltage and current which generate an output corresponding to that generated by the alternated current. We can identify the effective value as: U = Umáx / 2 e I = Imáx / 2 .

For example: If we connect a "resistance" to an AC circuit ( cos ϕ = 1 ) with Umax = 311 V and I max = 14. 14 A. the developed output power will be:

P = 2.200 Watts = 2.2 kW

Note: usually, when referring to voltage and current, for example, 220 V or 10 A, without mentioning any other factor, we are referring to voltage or current effective values, which are normally applied.

Peak and average !

311 V x (5/7) x 14,4 A (5/7) to 220 V x 10 A = 2200 VA

I get what your saying. I just didnt do the rms calc on that example. Either way it shows that energy and voltage level on a load are not a linear relationship.
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 22, 2020, 06:31:20 AM

Sorry i cannot able to stop my self to share these very

Interesting!!!

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/3529672/state-probes-magic-battery-invention-free-energy
https://www.yumpu.com/fr/document/read/50998693/gb-patent-2030801-free-energy
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/48302933/chemalloy-article-free-energy
And this one

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 22, 2020, 08:33:27 AM

Tito,I hope you are well !

But I have to remark : actually the use from a battery as electric source is in the 0,15-0,3 USD range ( calculating also included charger )

This inverter feed back cycle system gives you never electricity under 25 USD-cents/KWh ,only cheaper you get this donated !

Grid-free electricity : yes ! Cheap : No !

I calculate with 75 USD/KWh storage lead battery with 300 charge cycles conventional and 750 charge cycles by pulse algorithm charging !

In the Phillipines the consumer do not pay more than 15 USD-cents/KWh,or do they ?

Nice successfull week wishing and CoVid19 beware

OCWL

p.s. : probably 2025 we get hybrid batteries in the ≤ 5 USD-cents/KWh electric power range comercial ,when then lithium ion batteries will be available for 0,1 USD/KWh electric power and 100 USD/KWh electricity capaci5y storage !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 22, 2020, 01:02:04 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 10, 2020, 07:39:17 PM
You are not figuring in what it takes in energy to fill the cap to 40v vs 20v. At 20v there is an amount of energy there which is 20mj for 100uf. And 100uf at 40v is 80mj. So are you saying it doesnt take more energy to charge the 20v cap up to 40v than it did to just charge the cap to 20v in the first place? ???
I understand what you are thinking, but it is wrong. Just like in a car audio amplifier, if the rails are +20v and -20v and the rms sine output before clipping is 14.14v, then that divided by 4ohms speaker is rms 3.535amps, then the power sent to the speaker is 49.9849w.. But if the rails are 40v + and - we calculate the same. 28.28v sine just below clipping gives us 7.07amps rms to the speaker which is 199.9396w.

So you cant think of energy and voltage numbers as linear. get it? ;)
Mags

Yes, I got it.

We have amps which are linear.
We have voltage which is linear.
Then for power we choose to use non linear result, by multiplying.

P = U * I
4W = 2V * 2A or
6W = 2V * 3A
We have only 1A more, but we jumped from 4W to 6W
Where is 5W?
But power can be calculated in linear way, why not?

P = U + I
4W = 2V + 2A
5W = 2V + 3A
There is no reason why we can not calculate power lineary.
In linear way you can still calculate all 3 components, but using + and - .
You wont find this in Wikipedia.
For this you must use brain.

Now, when we do combine 2 or more equations for more complex equation we got
on some occations that some things are multiplyied twice or even more.
because of their linear roots presented by non linear results.

And, voila, we have conundrum.
And it looks like energy in same container jumps by 4 times instead lineary.

But real conundrum lies in usage of operators + , - , * , /

There is no conundrum, just in some cases stupid usage of math.

In case of cap, you raise capacitance or voltage lineary but calculate result non linear which leads to error in our minds.
But is just the way we use our math without thinking.

There is no conundrum.
Sometimes is not good to mix linear and non linear to present things.

Use your logic.
In case of 100uF, 20V and
100uf, 40V
Is there really 4 times more energy difference.
If it is, how we can not got OU by simply raising voltage in cap?

This is just example how can we can create math conundrum,
I dont claim that we must use + and - for calculating power.

Last time you did not understand what I was trying to say.
And you are right, your calculations are correct.
It is just the way we use math.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 22, 2020, 01:24:15 PM

Now,

Lets make a nice big stake fire and burn me,
like in old good days of inqusition.
Shall we?

Old good days when Earth was flat.
I miss those times.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on June 22, 2020, 01:37:31 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on June 22, 2020, 01:24:15 PM
Now,

Lets make a nice big stake fire and burn me,
like in old good days of inqusition.
Shall we?

Old good days when Earth was flat.
I miss those times.

So who were the Elohim (it translates to 'the powerful ones') and the Garden of Eden correctly translates to the garden of animals (is that us)?
so are you still determined to go a head with your wish? don't say there is no proof of that because there is literally tuns of it!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 22, 2020, 02:27:38 PM

Quote from: AlienGrey on June 22, 2020, 01:37:31 PM
So who were the Elohim (it translates to 'the powerful ones') and the Garden of Eden correctly translates to the garden of animals (is that us)?
so are you still determined to go a head with your wish? don't say there is no proof of that because there is literally tuns of it!

No, I am not determined to burn.
But, there are lots of people here who wants to burn me on the stake,
just because I have opinion on my own.
It happened lots of times here to many people.

I am just ready for them to burn me down.
It is normal thing here.

About your Elohim.
Who ever they were, and we were animals to them,
you must understand that we are still animals to them.
I dont think that they changed their minds.

There is reason why this stone still sitting in Baalbeck.
Because humans can not make crane to move it 20km away and dump it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on June 22, 2020, 03:29:31 PM

Whatisit quote No, I am not determined to burn.end quote.
Good to hear...climb down off that pile we need the wood !!
please no more Torches and pitchforks....lets turn the page..
thats a Big stooone :o

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 22, 2020, 04:38:19 PM

Nowdays person can not be decently crucified and burned on stake like in old days?
I almost felt the heat under my feet!
What a world!

Ramset, you know my attitude, and I will share my wood when needed.
Had a luck this time that nobody had matches.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on June 22, 2020, 04:52:42 PM

The problem with that huge stone monolith your showing is it's thousands of years old
Almost Samarian times, they tell us it cracked during cutting from where ever it came from, they show the marks of a machine cut and it's age they say it cracked wile it was being cut, but it's beginning to look like that happened much, much later on, sounds like some group could be trying to uncomplicated things to save a lot of explaining that and other things. :o

I wouldn't mind betting those ancient people who ever they were could teach us a thing or two about energy and generating it miles from any where.

Oh it's not my Elohim look up ''Paul Walice Escape from Eden''. (some sort of Anglican bishop).
anyway the Elohim are not Yahshua (the Messiah) that's about something else entirely.
Watch is video on you tube.

AG

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 22, 2020, 05:18:45 PM

Quote from: AlienGrey on June 22, 2020, 04:52:42 PM
The problem with that huge stone monolith your showing is it's thousands of years old
Almost Samarian times, they tell us it cracked during cutting from where ever it came from, they show the marks of a machine cut and it's age they say it cracked wile it was being cut, but it's beginning to look like that happened much, much later on, sounds like some group could be trying to uncomplicated things to save a lot of explaining that and other things.

I wouldn't mind betting those ancient people who ever they were could teach us a thing or two about energy
and generating it miles from ant where.
AG

That stone is one of more of them.
A 1km further there is platform made of those stones.
Later Romans build temple on the flat platform they founded there.
See the picture.
On the picture you can see people standing, they look like ants.

One platform of those stones is underneath Jerusalem.
Jerusalem is build on top of it.
Second is in Baalbeck, and Romans build temple on top of it.

The third..., well you have to read epic of Gilgamesh (Sumer version) and conclude where was it and is still today.
Cedar mountains in Lebanon.

This info is from my old friend Sitchen, not with us any more.

Now the question.
Baalbeck stones were transported from that quarry to the foundation where Roman temple is build on top of it.
Did they carry them with hands?

Today we can not do that!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 22, 2020, 06:19:58 PM

Quote from: AlienGrey on June 22, 2020, 04:52:42 PM
Oh it's not my Elohim look up ''Paul Walice Escape from Eden''. (some sort of Anglican bishop).
anyway the Elohim are not Yahshua (the Messiah) that's about something else entirely.
Watch is video on you tube.

AG

I am not sure what you mean under Elohim?

Name Elohim is a name for God used frequently in the Hebrew Bible.
OK. Will try to find that video to see what is about.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 22, 2020, 07:11:21 PM

Pacita just made me laugh, i thought they will also so
I shared it here.

That is just a joke buddy, i'm making my self happy
Because covid here in my place is just in the
Next barangay. :)

Don't be so serius ok.
Its just part of my unpredictable
Humorous attitude ok. ;)

But you said so i'll deleted it boss. Sorry.

You know what?, you are all talking for something that just only the
BIBLE can only give you the absolute answer. As simple as that.
Just be humble before God ok? He will give you what you want.

Goodbye.
Hoping for good health to all of you.
CAREFULL TO ALL OF YOUR EXPERIMENT.

BYE BYE :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on June 22, 2020, 09:01:54 PM

If i were you I would delete it before any one sees that!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 22, 2020, 11:25:23 PM

After spending 5 years in bloody war in Croatia,
I learned that all religious books are just excuse
for just more blood and conflict.

We should not give names to God,
only He knows his true name and
will reveal it to whom He wants.

If you wanna praise Him, then sing to Him,
not from the church, but from your hart.

If you dont know how, try like Bono does

https://youtu.be/Yi52HjJbwVQ

Maybe then He will whisper to you his name.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 23, 2020, 05:45:12 AM

Quote from: AlienGrey on June 22, 2020, 09:01:54 PM
If i were you I would delete it before any one sees that!

See, Many times people make quick judge and conclusion without the
Real knowing of the real intention of the poster.

And Thats bad. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 23, 2020, 05:51:06 AM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on June 22, 2020, 11:25:23 PM
After spending 5 years in bloody war in Croatia,
I learned that all religious books are just excuse
for just more blood and conflict.

We should not give names to God,
only He knows his true name and
will reveal it to whom He wants.

If you wanna praise Him, then sing to Him,
not from the church, but from your hart.

If you dont know how, try like Bono does

https://youtu.be/Yi52HjJbwVQ (https://youtu.be/Yi52HjJbwVQ)

Maybe then He will whisper to you his name.

If you will seek him with all your might, He knows that
And He will reveal his truth to you.
Just pray continuosly ok?

With a humble heart. HE knows that also.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on June 23, 2020, 06:01:43 AM

No thanks the old testament is full of genocide stories. Evil exists. The book of Hanok God're'el is the serpent. Stuff gets twisted in translation.
when was Yashua ever in church doing what he did ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 23, 2020, 07:22:17 AM

Quote from: AlienGrey on June 23, 2020, 06:01:43 AM
No thanks the old testament is full of genocide stories. Evil exists. The book of Hanok God're'el is the serpent. Stuff gets twisted in translation.
when was Yashua ever in church doing what he did ?

Book of hanok is not part of the bible.
Here is my advice buddy, God knows our heart if you will
Really search him with all your might and with all your heart.
HE KNOWS THAT, BELIEVE ME HE IS A GOOD GOD!

Here is what you should do:
Get a king james version bible.
Look for a pentecostal church or a born again christian church
Get involve in the ministry.
Read the bible, believe me you will grow. :)
Believe in Jesus
Repent,
Accept Jesus as your God and savior
And your soul will be save!, and
Thats the truth.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 23, 2020, 08:27:58 AM

And accepting "Maria" ?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Perez_Murillo_021.jpg/800px-Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Perez_Murillo_021.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Perez_Murillo_021.jpg/800px-Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Perez_Murillo_021.jpg)

But which,the older or the newer,restaurated,version :

https://bilder1.n-tv.de/img/incoming/origs21864308/0772536688-w1280-h960/Das-Marienbildnis-wurde-bis-zur-Unkenntlichkeit-verunstaltet.jpg (https://bilder1.n-tv.de/img/incoming/origs21864308/0772536688-w1280-h960/Das-Marienbildnis-wurde-bis-zur-Unkenntlichkeit-verunstaltet.jpg)

8) ;) ;D

Maria!
I've just met a girl named Maria,
And suddenly that name
Will never be the same
To me.

https://lyricstranslate.com/en/maria-maria.html-1 (https://lyricstranslate.com/en/maria-maria.html-1)

Not only the name,also her outfit ::) VERSION 2020

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FSpanien-lacht-ueber-Restaurierungs-Flop-article21865431.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FSpanien-lacht-ueber-Restaurierungs-Flop-article21865431.html)

spanish restaurators are reknown for the " O´Salvador (aber Dali-Dali)" "sur-realism(us)" in their work :

https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/03/16/ridiculed-ecce-mono-fresco-celebrated-as-tourist-attraction-by-spanish-town/ (https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/03/16/ridiculed-ecce-mono-fresco-celebrated-as-tourist-attraction-by-spanish-town/)

But there are more,many much more,classical paintings to become "restaurated" :

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Murillo#/media/Datei:Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Murillo_-_Virgen_con_Ni%C3%B1o_(Rijksmuseum).jpg (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Murillo#/media/Datei:Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Murillo_-_Virgen_con_Ni%C3%B1o_(Rijksmuseum).jpg)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Perez_Murillo_003.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Perez_Murillo_003.jpg)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Aparici%C3%B3n_de_la_Virgen_a_san_Bernardo.jpg/800px-Aparici%C3%B3n_de_la_Virgen_a_san_Bernardo.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Aparici%C3%B3n_de_la_Virgen_a_san_Bernardo.jpg/800px-Aparici%C3%B3n_de_la_Virgen_a_san_Bernardo.jpg)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/La_Inmaculada_de_Soult%2C_1678%2C_Bartolom%C3%A9_E._Murillo.jpg/800px-La_Inmaculada_de_Soult%2C_1678%2C_Bartolom%C3%A9_E._Murillo.jpg

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 23, 2020, 04:48:31 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 23, 2020, 08:27:58 AM
And accepting "Maria" ?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Perez_Murillo_021.jpg/800px-Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Perez_Murillo_021.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Perez_Murillo_021.jpg/800px-Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Perez_Murillo_021.jpg)

But which,the older or the newer,restaurated,version :

https://bilder1.n-tv.de/img/incoming/origs21864308/0772536688-w1280-h960/Das-Marienbildnis-wurde-bis-zur-Unkenntlichkeit-verunstaltet.jpg (https://bilder1.n-tv.de/img/incoming/origs21864308/0772536688-w1280-h960/Das-Marienbildnis-wurde-bis-zur-Unkenntlichkeit-verunstaltet.jpg)

8) ;) ;D

Maria!
I've just met a girl named Maria,
And suddenly that name
Will never be the same
To me.

https://lyricstranslate.com/en/maria-maria.html-1 (https://lyricstranslate.com/en/maria-maria.html-1)

Not only the name,also her outfit ::) VERSION 2020

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FSpanien-lacht-ueber-Restaurierungs-Flop-article21865431.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FSpanien-lacht-ueber-Restaurierungs-Flop-article21865431.html)

spanish restaurators are reknown for the " O´Salvador (aber Dali-Dali)" "sur-realism(us)" in their work :

https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/03/16/ridiculed-ecce-mono-fresco-celebrated-as-tourist-attraction-by-spanish-town/ (https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/03/16/ridiculed-ecce-mono-fresco-celebrated-as-tourist-attraction-by-spanish-town/)

But there are more,many much more,classical paintings to become "restaurated" :

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Murillo#/media/Datei:Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Murillo_-_Virgen_con_Ni%C3%B1o_(Rijksmuseum).jpg (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Murillo#/media/Datei:Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Murillo_-_Virgen_con_Ni%C3%B1o_(Rijksmuseum).jpg)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Perez_Murillo_003.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Bartolom%C3%A9_Esteban_Perez_Murillo_003.jpg)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Aparici%C3%B3n_de_la_Virgen_a_san_Bernardo.jpg/800px-Aparici%C3%B3n_de_la_Virgen_a_san_Bernardo.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Aparici%C3%B3n_de_la_Virgen_a_san_Bernardo.jpg/800px-Aparici%C3%B3n_de_la_Virgen_a_san_Bernardo.jpg)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/La_Inmaculada_de_Soult%2C_1678%2C_Bartolom%C3%A9_E._Murillo.jpg/800px-La_Inmaculada_de_Soult%2C_1678%2C_Bartolom%C3%A9_E._Murillo.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/La_Inmaculada_de_Soult%2C_1678%2C_Bartolom%C3%A9_E._Murillo.jpg/800px-La_Inmaculada_de_Soult%2C_1678%2C_Bartolom%C3%A9_E._Murillo.jpg)

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No!, maria is just a part where jesus needed to have
A flesh body.
Jesus is the God we needed to accept.
He is the powerfull one, see we are even not leaving the topic, He is free energy
His power can last forever !!!
He is just waiting for anyone to accept him for free and become
Free energy also and live forever .
The energy we know here is just nothing compare to the energy He has.
He is the real thing the very powerfull God that can do anything and He want to
Share this to you JUST ACCEPT HIM AS YOUR GOD AND SAVIOUR AND ITS VERY FREE
SINCE WE ARE ALL HERE REALLY LOOKING FOR FREE, HE IS THE
ONE!!! WE ARE LOOKING FOR, HE IS THE MOST ADVANCE
HE HAS THE UNLIMITED ENDURING VERY CONTROLLED POWER!!!
WHAT NIKOLA TESLA DISCOVERED IS JUST A PIECE OF JUNK
COMPARED TO THE POWER OF JESUS.
GOT IT?
AND THAT IS THE MOST EXCITING THING,
THE PART OF KNOWING HIM, BELIEVE ME HIS POWER IS GENTLE.
IT GIVES LIFE MAKING YOU BECOME FOREVER.
YOU ARE REALLY A GENIUS PERSON IF YOU
CAN ABLE TO KNOW HIM AND THAT IS THE
CHALLENGE TO EVERY ONE HERE.
AND HERE IS MY TIP:
READ THE KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE.
IF YOU CAN ABLE TO GRASP THE WHOLE THING THEN I CAN SAY YOU ARE REALLY A GENIUS.
KNOWING JESUS IS THE GENIUS THING!.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on June 24, 2020, 07:26:53 AM

Tito,
i do not support any religious sect or doctorin however I know there is an eval, force here on earth,
but there is also an unconditional spiritual invisable force of creation & belonging.we should invest in.

The name Jesus first apeared in the King James bible along with 240 translation errors in 1604 and published in 1611,
it's all a well known fact Jesus isnt a name it just means saviour.
the messiah's real name was Yashuah it's obviously Jewish, some might have a problem with that.
but i see that as a historical fact.

Have some respect.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 24, 2020, 08:18:58 AM

AlienGrey,even today the several languages but in same religion philosophy use different denominations for the same object

angel-saxonian I believe in God
Gott
Gud

romano Dios
Deius
Dieu

And that the expression was jewish is not a wonder,the romano-catholic church philosophy based on jewish rituals and tradititions !

The "specific force" is based by "Votiv-/Motiv-"ation/action , but sometimes this "force" let do people make stupid things and actions,seen by their arguments " inner voice demanded !" !

But much in our life is "program"-based,only repeated rituals,modern we see and remark this today in modern psychologic tools like NLP ,"think and decision architecture" mapping !

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 24, 2020, 10:36:34 PM

Quote from: AlienGrey on June 24, 2020, 07:26:53 AM
Tito,
i do not support any religious sect or doctorin however I know there is an eval, force here on earth,
but there is also an unconditional spiritual invisable force of creation & belonging.we should invest in.

The name Jesus first apeared in the King James bible along with 240 translation errors in 1604 and published in 1611,
it's all a well known fact Jesus isnt a name it just means saviour.
the messiah's real name was Yashuah it's obviously Jewish, some might have a problem with that.
but i see that as a historical fact.

Have some respect.

First, i respect what you believe and i am not forcing anyone to believe me,
I just want to share what i believe can help to everyone.

So thats it.
What i see is that you have a very deep knowledge to everything, but sometimes and manytimes
We only need a little knowledge to make a machine move or make it work, just a little bit movements
Of the hands and foot, we can control a very big huge machine, like in God all that He want is to
Accept Jesus as our Lord and savior and beleive him, a very simple thing to do if we just humble our selves before God.
Anyway thank you for giving a little part of your time. I respect it.

So long bro bye. ;)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on June 24, 2020, 11:13:03 PM

QuoteI do not support any religious sect or doctorin however I know there is an eval, force here on earth,
but there is also an unconditional spiritual invisable force of creation & belonging.we should invest in.

The name Jesus first apeared in the King James bible along with 240 translation errors in 1604 and published in 1611,
it's all a well known fact Jesus isnt a name it just means saviour.
the messiah's real name was Yashuah it's obviously Jewish, some might have a problem with that.
but i see that as a historical fact.

I think theism is easy to understand and the older most people become the more they buy into it. The problem is were all going to die and cease to exist eventually no matter how rich or powerful or strong we are or not. Obviously this is a problem because many people tend to lose hope and the fear of death overwhelms them. To make matters worse the elderly then try and convince the young there fantasies are true to further reinforce there delusions.

A must read is Pascal's Wager in my opinion...https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/

Here we see what theism is in reality, it's just insurance to placate the unfortunate truth that we will all cease to exist and there is nothing we can do about it. Which is why people buy insurance for everything there innate fear of reality can imagine to hedge there bets. Fear motivates most people not logic or reason as some suggest more so the Fear Of Missing Out.

However the problem with Pascal's Wager is logic and reason, why limit our wager to gods?. Why not unicorns, fairies, Bigfoot, Atlantis and little grey aliens scurrying about under our bed at night?. Why not narcissistic abusive fascists who talk like a six year old and think on the same level who basically declare themselves gods and stable geniuses?.

You see once we buy into the wager to hedge our bets against our imaginary fears there is no end to the rabbit hole.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on June 24, 2020, 11:31:04 PM

Tito

QuoteFirst, i respect what you believe and i am not forcing anyone to believe me,
I just want to share what i believe can help to everyone.
So thats it.

Of course your not forcing anyone to do anything simply repeating the same old message that you may have found success and believe in god as if somehow they were connected... ergo the false cause fallacy.

However I have succeeded in FE based on logic, reason and science not imaginary gods and I am not forcing that on anyone either, it's to help, that's it, lol.

Maybe we could compare beliefs?, my science produced a best COP of 100 and I know why it works and where the energy comes from... what's your COP?.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 25, 2020, 05:54:10 AM

Quote from: onepower on June 24, 2020, 11:31:04 PM
Tito
Of course your not forcing anyone to do anything simply repeating the same old message that you may have found success and believe in god as if somehow they were connected... ergo the false cause fallacy.

However I have succeeded in FE based on logic, reason and science not imaginary gods and I am not forcing that on anyone either, it's to help, that's it, lol.

Maybe we could compare beliefs?, my science produced a best COP of 100 and I know why it works and where the energy comes from... what's your COP?.

Regards

Oooooh its so sad bro :( :( :(
Yes they were all connected because they were created or they are from God.
It is not false cause fallacy because it is truth Jesus is truth the way and the life.
We can even call it truth cause fallacy because it is real, God is real and we can see it by his
Creation. Look at your hand your body the way it work its beautiful and perfect, it works under His created rules and supervision.

It cannot be done by accident? :o guzhhhh lot lot lots of perpect accident from universe up to the smallest crawling insects, it cannot be done by the result of big bang theory either.
About the pascal wager, we cannot rely to the brain of pascal :o , he is just created
By the supreme being God :o , you cannot compare pascal to God :o , logically
Pascal brain or any person is just limitted and God is unlimitted wright?
Very simpel :D eh.

About your science and cop, well, science is also just part of the
Great creation by God and God's cop is unlimitted, name your cop
Always you cannot get ahead God's cop eh :)
Simpel as that really and thats the truth. ;)

Once we put our fears to God, He will do the rest.
JUST TRUST HIM.

Seem and obviusly you don't believe in God then I respect
It ;) .
But beware if you don't want God will take care of you,
You might be stolen by dark god and that is fearfull
watch out. :( :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on June 25, 2020, 12:55:05 PM

Oh no, not that. Is that why you won't show us your self runner? Fear???
Don't we have enough fear, already. FEAR of GOD. Aren't there enough religious families, and children dying every day of hunger, and sickness, that believe in "God". Yes, that same God that they put their faith and fear into. Your God. Is their faith in God not enough to save them? Are they making a choice to die. I don't think so. Something else is going on, for the "love of God".
God never asked me nor told me to "fear" him, but to love him, instead. Did Jesus really need, want, or had to have your fear, of him. Or else...you'll go to hell. Nice God...Perhaps there was never really any free choice, in fear based religions.
That's why, they, are not my cup of tea.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 25, 2020, 07:29:29 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 23, 2020, 04:48:31 PM

No!, maria is just a part where jesus needed to have
A flesh body.
Jesus is the God we needed to accept.
He is the powerfull one, see we are even not leaving the topic, He is free energy
His power can last forever !!!
He is just waiting for anyone to accept him for free and become
Free energy also and live forever .
The energy we know here is just nothing compare to the energy He has.
He is the real thing the very powerfull God that can do anything and He want to
Share this to you JUST ACCEPT HIM AS YOUR GOD AND SAVIOUR AND ITS VERY FREE
SINCE WE ARE ALL HERE REALLY LOOKING FOR FREE, HE IS THE
ONE!!! WE ARE LOOKING FOR, HE IS THE MOST ADVANCE
HE HAS THE UNLIMITED ENDURING VERY CONTROLLED POWER!!!
WHAT NIKOLA TESLA DISCOVERED IS JUST A PIECE OF JUNK
COMPARED TO THE POWER OF JESUS.
GOT IT?
AND THAT IS THE MOST EXCITING THING,
THE PART OF KNOWING HIM, BELIEVE ME HIS POWER IS GENTLE.
IT GIVES LIFE MAKING YOU BECOME FOREVER.
YOU ARE REALLY A GENIUS PERSON IF YOU
CAN ABLE TO KNOW HIM AND THAT IS THE
CHALLENGE TO EVERY ONE HERE.
AND HERE IS MY TIP:
READ THE KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE.
IF YOU CAN ABLE TO GRASP THE WHOLE THING THEN I CAN SAY YOU ARE REALLY A GENIUS.
KNOWING JESUS IS THE GENIUS THING!.

You wont feel Him reading religious books.
You wont feel Him mumbling about Him.
You wont feel Him shiting all over with your advices.
You wont feel Him by parking brand new BMW in front of the church.
You wont feel Him in front of TV with beer in your hand.

In between anger and fear you will feel strong presence, strange new sensation.
You will feel presence when you spare life you did not have to.
You will feel Him when you prove yourself that you are not monster.

And when there is only thunder of grenades and whistling of bullets in you ears, you will start to hear.
And when there is nothing in your hart, when even fear runs away, you will start to feel Him.
And you will learn in no time how to listen to Him.

You will stop to pray for the death of your enemy, you will understand,
how foolish that is.
The only pray at that moment is, if death is comming for me, please God let it be quick.

When your hart is empty, you will hear Him.
It will be your own words, but not comming from you.
You will know that those are not your thoughts.
You will just know.

So, what are you talking is just entertaiment, and I laugh at you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on June 25, 2020, 07:53:22 PM

Thankyou for sharing that...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 25, 2020, 10:38:19 PM

:( :( :( :( :( :(
Insulted me again inspite of sharing the most
Important to all!

Free energy is not the solution ok!!!
It may even worsen our life if it applied.

I'm just human, i also care about my family.
And i shared most of important things to know
That i believe can help, but still i received nothing
But INSULT!!! >:(
For the insult i received you think it can help me to show it huh. >:(
Thats 11 years in the making.
And since its not more important to what i see
Thats why i share the one that is more important.
Hope you understand, i'm really having difficuty explaining to
Everyone. :D

Here is my last tip: just want to share you to know.
1. In the last interview of tesla in part of it he talk about the blackhole
Is the most powetfull source of energy according to the astronomer.
Therefore if we have an equivalent circuit about that, i think it is an advantage. DC.
2. One time tesla talk about an avalantze analogy, now that is unlimitted in what i see
Therefore again if we have equivalent circuit to that we may have unlimitted cop. AC
3.about the momentary charge combined with themomentum and motion? Caps.
We can then make bulb light or motor work or battery charge momentarily.

Many of these are showed already in youtube isn't it.
According to thomas edison: we can try thousands of trial and error.
According to nikola tesla: we can make some calculations to save trial and error.
:o

Goodbye!!!
Thank you for your insult!!! >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on June 26, 2020, 09:01:17 AM

TITO, could it be your explaining what you believe your self and not what is reality ?
Other might have different ideas of reality from actual facts rather than conjecture
or misunderstood interpretation from ancient languages.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on June 26, 2020, 10:33:05 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on June 25, 2020, 10:38:19 PM
:( :( :( :( :( :(
Insulted me again inspite of sharing the most
Important to all!

Free energy is not the solution ok!!!
It may even worsen our life if it applied.

I'm just human, i also care about my family.
And i shared most of important things to know
That i believe can help, but still i received nothing
But INSULT!!! >:(
For the insult i received you think it can help me to show it huh. >:(
Thats 11 years in the making.
And since its not more important to what i see
Thats why i share the one that is more important.
Hope you understand, i'm really having difficuty explaining to
Everyone. :D

Here is my last tip: just want to share you to know.
1. In the last interview of tesla in part of it he talk about the blackhole
Is the most powetfull source of energy according to the astronomer.
Therefore if we have an equivalent circuit about that, i think it is an advantage. DC.
2. One time tesla talk about an avalantze analogy, now that is unlimitted in what i see
Therefore again if we have equivalent circuit to that we may have unlimitted cop. AC
3.about the momentary charge combined with themomentum and motion? Caps.
We can then make bulb light or motor work or battery charge momentarily.

Many of these are showed already in youtube isn't it.
According to thomas edison: we can try thousands of trial and error.
According to nikola tesla: we can make some calculations to save trial and error.
:o

Goodbye!!!
Thank you for your insult!!! >:(

Tito: Sorry about all the insults, I know how you must feel. But, some of those insults are not about you, but are about your chosen religion. So, don't take them personally. We all have the right to believe what we want to believe. But, I don't always take kindly when being told what to do, or how to think concerning Gods and Saviors. But, I meant no insults to you personally.

On the other hand, I do think that the "black hole" idea has some merit. As it's the inward vortex that can suck external ambient energy into the circuit's coils and wires. It has been shown in ancient Indian scriptures as the Vimana craft. And shown in the Mayan texts as a mercury vortex used for their space crafts. Perhaps the free energy devices need to use same type of mode of operation, implosive, and not outward and explosive like a nuclear bomb, but like a whirlwind, instead.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on June 26, 2020, 08:47:11 PM

Tito
How you present what you insist that we believe, God, Jesus or free energy, is just not very effective. If people went to a new church and all they heard is what you post here, the parishioners would drop out like flies. You are only saying some things without any actual content, as in the Bible or your way of free energy, of which over the years you have claimed to have it from the beginning of posting here till now and even claimed that the first ones worked and would soon help us on the path, to"oh. forget about that one, I have a better one now and not giving anything away, but still brag about it. And have done that more than once over the many years. But we never get any real substance or even some solid theories. Just snow balls, carbon and door hinges, more coils and AV plugs, and many more, all without any way of going about it.

When there is a good preacher in a church, they have a way of keeping your attention. They read to you from the Bible. They explain what it means. They reveal testimony of their experiences of God, Jesus in their life and explain how faith works. People are most likely not go jumping into the Bible until they have had a sample of the real thing. Most people need to be initialized into it. We cannot just say Jesus Loves You and expect a huge following.

Back in the beginning you made claims of knowing how SM did it and even wanted to present it to Stephan. And then you showed your basic circuit layout. But soon after you backed off of telling any further and just gave bits and pieces that can be found as common talk in the forum.

One big problem you might have with preaching Jesus here is the fact that "Well, tito did not really follow through with helping us with OU, so why should we believe him about Jesus?"
;)
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2020, 04:30:01 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on June 26, 2020, 08:47:11 PM
Tito
How you present what you insist that we believe, God, Jesus or free energy, is just not very effective. If people went to a new church and all they heard is what you post here, the parishioners would drop out like flies. You are only saying some things without any actual content, as in the Bible or your way of free energy, of which over the years you have claimed to have it from the beginning of posting here till now and even claimed that the first ones worked and would soon help us on the path, to"oh. forget about that one, I have a better one now and not giving anything away, but still brag about it. And have done that more than once over the many years. But we never get any real substance or even some solid theories. Just snow balls, carbon and door hinges, more coils and AV plugs, and many more, all without any way of going about it.

When there is a good preacher in a church, they have a way of keeping your attention. They read to you from the Bible. They explain what it means. They reveal testimony of their experiences of God, Jesus in their life and explain how faith works. People are most likely not go jumping into the Bible until they have had a sample of the real thing. Most people need to be initialized into it. We cannot just say Jesus Loves You and expect a huge following.

Back in the beginning you made claims of knowing how SM did it and even wanted to present it to Stephan. And then you showed your basic circuit layout. But soon after you backed off of telling any further and just gave bits and pieces that can be found as common talk in the forum.

One big problem you might have with preaching Jesus here is the fact that "Well, tito did not really follow through with helping us with OU, so why should we believe him about Jesus?"
;)
Mags

??? :(
Mags,
Its a none stop long debate discussion again.
I think you have to stop saying that i claim ok, just stop that.
What i'm doing is just sharing ok?.

In the fast years i said i claimed, i was so excited to share it here and
I felt very happy doing sharing, but in the way as time goes by there are also some
Or even you insulted me a lot.
I was about to give it to all really but lots of thing conflicting in my mind,
I felt guilty yes by not giving the deepest thing i found but we are all
Studying here, nobody gave me that i just kept on studying tesla's words and hints
I am just the same as you or anybody.
Maybe the way i did my sharing is like teasing yes but thats my way
And i'm sorry about that ok.
But believe it or not i'm telling the truth, i'm just an ordinary
Person, maybe we are just different in the way we think and that is
Maybe my gift.
We are all student here and cheating is prohibited.
So i think erase the word "i claimed", to make you stop insulting me.
And also as i am reading your post, i felt that what you want is what i should do :o
No!, please stop that!, what i share is up to you if you want to chew it or not ok.
As i always say i am not forcing you ok.?

As time goes i grow also as what you said ok :)
So don't compare me from my first school year here got it! :D

To all:
If you can't do it forward why don't you do it backward. 8)
Why when somebody was shot by a bullet, usually the point of
Entry is small compared to point of outry ;D [size=78%]. [/size]why?, maybe there is
Reason behind that and since that is natural, i think its just the same
Principle to the other scenario i think, what do you think?. :D
See, i'm noticing something that you don't care about but that
Is true isn't it?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2020, 04:51:35 AM

To mags
You are always making me guilty about because i share God or
Jesus and then i am not giving my free energy its like telling me
Your bad, your bad your bad you are not real christian or not real
Son of God. ;D
Ouch! ;D
Ok here!
We are all searching here, we can share by our own will everything
We only want to share ok, no forceplay ok! >:(
Your search is yours and mine is mine got that?

NOW!!! >:( >:( >:(
To all :
WARNING!!!
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE TO ANYTHING
WHY ARE YOU HERE IN MY THREAD,
IF YOUR TIME IS WAiSTED THEN YOU ARE FREE TO GO
OUT!!!
THIS THREAD IS FOR ABNORMAL THINKER ONLY ;D lol
We are under quarantine
Keep quiet!
Beware ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on June 27, 2020, 09:54:53 AM

Tito I suppose if you just wrote about your ..whatever it is?]..it would be fine with many here. ...even tho it is an open source forum...seems many don't care and have gotten use to guys like you taunting them for years and years .
However since you are the only member of this open source forum Taunting and writing about a Christian God ??makes you a unique member here as well a unique form of Christianity...

How your Christian God would allow others to suffer for your selfishness ? denying a gift which would cost you Nothing to give or share...

Exact opposite of what Christianity teaches.
that is your big problem here ...mixing religion and taunting.
You bring nonsense belief where it is OK to allow suffering and claim it is Christian belief system.
better to just write about your ...whatever it is that you taunt with here ? ?

You are worlds worst example of Christian teachings.
100 children die from starvation in Philippines every day now....
how many more before you help them ?
FE would save lives in a moments time..world wide..I have no idea how it became a game here ??
fun ?? years and years of taunting in an open source forum....how desperate are you for attention ?
that you would stand on the necks of the neediest and the suffering and preach Love.
To be honest I don't care if you ever share here...however if you are not spending every moment of every waking hour sharing this life saving technology with the needy in your country ?
teach someone else and let them share...there are many here that would... and it is their only reason for researching FE...to get it out to the world !!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2020, 08:37:49 PM

Quote from: ramset on June 27, 2020, 09:54:53 AM
Tito I suppose if you just wrote about your ..whatever it is?]..it would be fine with many here. ...even tho it is an open source forum...seems many don't care and have gotten use to guys like you taunting them for years and years .
However since you are the only member of this open source forum Taunting and writing about a Christian God ??makes you a unique member here as well a unique form of Christianity...

How your Christian God would allow others to suffer for your selfishness ? denying a gift which would cost you Nothing to give or share...

Exact opposite of what Christianity teaches.
that is your big problem here ...mixing religion and taunting.
You bring nonsense belief where it is OK to allow suffering and claim it is Christian belief system.
better to just write about your ...whatever it is that you taunt with here ? ?

You are worlds worst example of Christian teachings.
100 children die from starvation in Philippines every day now....
how many more before you help them ?
FE would save lives in a moments time..world wide..I have no idea how it became a game here ??
fun ?? years and years of taunting in an open source forum....how desperate are you for attention ?
that you would stand on the necks of the neediest and the suffering and preach Love.
To be honest I don't care if you ever share here...however if you are not spending every moment of every waking hour sharing this life saving technology with the needy in your country ?
teach someone else and let them share...there are many here that would... and it is their only reason for researching FE...to get it out to the world !!

It seems that you didn't read what i wrote in the previous post isn't it? >:( >:( >:(
And probably you don't understand.!!! >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 29, 2020, 07:08:16 PM

Hi Teets
Black Hole. Cool. What comes to mind is the "off" part of a duty cycle involving a unidirectional impulse. It's in the "off" time where the aether/ambient pushes back against the abrupt discharge spike with a burst of charge, seeking to restore equilibrium.

A few researchers have shown that this ambient push-back charge can be best collected from the center of a coil by a perpendicular (orthogonal) wire or coil. Remember Tito's occasional reference to the K-caps? (I think that's what they were called) - I think this is the same principle.

There are others who claim the mid point of a cylinder coil is the best place for collecting this charge - JB was a proponent of this "bloch wall" ambient charging effect. I believe he considered it to be a gravity wave pushing back at the bloch wall (not the right term, but everyone understands what is meant) after an abrupt discharge into the coil.

God bless you, Teets.
Be well bro.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on July 18, 2020, 06:11:22 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 17, 2013, 07:35:35 AM

let say for example I collected a stainless steel, alluminum, tin, copper, zinc then by the use of a grinder, i pulvorice them all mix them together.

then i have two option to combine them ist by epoxy, second i can super heat them using acetylene and oxygen in a mold

now the resulted material should be producing a little heat cause they are different metal joint together, then before i use it i introduce 2kv in it.

then i include it in a circuit capable of producing high voltage. what do you think is the result? ::)

Hi Tito ;)
I read back your writings and you have really left behind a ton of technical knowledge which is a treasure.
Between many things i found your above statement which is a great solution for self supported experimenters who can not afford the expensive ferrite cores.

Just two questions.
1. Why are you heating this material mix?
2. Is there any specific mixing analogy that you can suggest? (Like x-grams of alum, z-grams of tin e.t.c)

Thanks
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on July 18, 2020, 06:42:01 AM

Jeg, sorry to stick my nose in here, but perhaps I can help a little, I was looking at the 'YOU KU' website 'Color' originally posted
an interest in and again your self and others.

I'm not too sure how it works if it does as it's ferrox setup looks just like any other transformer, but it does look like it gets hot :o
hence the vent PCB strips around the device and it does appear to have 2 rather large lead acid battery's on the left of the device
however one would have to make tests and there is the uncanny resemblance to the Ruslan device ie the yoke core winding and
the air core of the Delomorto air core.

It would be interesting to know what others have found, and why do you think the ferrox cores are expensive ? you can get a pair
of cores for about 5 euro's

AG

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 18, 2020, 07:06:08 AM

Quote from: Jeg on July 18, 2020, 06:11:22 AM
Hi Tito ;)
I read back your writings and you have really lefth behind a ton of technical knowledge which is a treasure.
Between many things i found your above statement which is a great solution for self supported experimenters who can not afford the expensive ferrite cores.

Just two questions.
1. Why are you heating this material mix?
2. Is there any specific mixing analogy that you can suggest? (Like x-grams of alum, z-grams of tin e.t.c)

Thanks
Jeg

Hig jeg, good day! :)

Its really just an experiment in my head at that time cause i'm reading a lot of
Experiment from different books so i just made think of that.
Its just a feeling in me that if i combine different metal into one metal, it could produce
An amp and a volt, and by introducing high volt is like reconditioning it and setting its capacity into that volt.
The experiment is like a battery combining different metals into one making them all shorted each other in the mix, and i'm expecting it to produce lot of power if i include in a
Circuit. Well, i did not do that cause i'm always looking for the best, i don't have time for very hard experiment , i'm always looking for simple one.
If you have time well, you can experiment on that but be careful cause i don't know the result either lol :D , sometimes by accident you can make something that you don't expect.
Like what tesla did about the apparatus that create an eathquake :D .
Anyway just be careful and God bless ;)
Let me lead you bro. :)
Make a research on how can you make an accumulation
About volt and ampere.
Tesla already told us about 10 watts of power in condenser into 18 million horse power
And that is very over overunity lol. ;D

Bye happy experimenting.
Try reviewing this one:
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm#005
Efren ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on July 18, 2020, 08:03:53 AM

Quote from: AlienGrey on July 18, 2020, 06:42:01 AM
Jeg, sorry to stick my nose in here, but perhaps I can help a little, I was looking at the 'YOU KU' website 'Color' originally posted
an interest in and again your self and others.

I'm not too sure how it works if it does as it's ferrox setup looks just like any other transformer, but it does look like it gets hot :o
hence the vent PCB strips around the device and it does appear to have 2 rather large lead acid battery's on the left of the device
however one would have to make tests and there is the uncanny resemblance to the Ruslan device ie the yoke core winding and
the air core of the Delomorto air core.

It would be interesting to know what others have found, and why do you think the ferrox cores are expensive ? you can get a pair
of cores for about 5 euro's

AG

AG
Thanks for the input my friend, I watched it very carefully and i am sure the Chinese man is doing at the side of the yoke core what Ruslan is doing at the end coil. I am looking for cheap cores for the end coil (like grenade) and not for the yoke push pull. I have used recently a bunch of small toroid cores but if you see Tito's suggestion i think it is very interesting.
About delamorto's circuit it looks genuine. Especially C3 which only charges and never discharges is a new way of making a virtual ground with only positives. If you like to discuss it more we can do it at the Dally-Kapa thread.

Tito.
Thanks for the quick answer. I have read your posts carefully for more than ten times!!! :D
You are a real inventor my friend and your advises are not for starters.
A core that consists of all those metals that you described is very interesting and i like to experiment on this. I think it will also work without pre-charging. If i manage to construct it i'll post some results.

Best regards
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 18, 2020, 08:45:37 AM

Quote from: Jeg on July 18, 2020, 08:03:53 AM
AG
Thanks for the input my friend, I watched it very carefully and i am sure the Chinese man is doing at the side of the yoke core what Ruslan is doing at the end coil. I am looking for cheap cores for the end coil (like grenade) and not for the yoke push pull. I have used recently a bunch of small toroid cores but if you see Tito's suggestion i think it is very interesting.
About delamorto's circuit it looks genuine. Especially C3 which only charges and never discharges is a new way of making a virtual ground with only positives. If you like to discuss it more we can do it at the Dally-Kapa thread.

Tito.
Thanks for the quick answer. I have read your posts carefully for more than ten times!!! :D
You are a real inventor my friend and your advises are not for starters.
A core that consists of all those metals that you described is very interesting and i like to experiment on this. I think it will also work without pre-charging. If i manage to construct it i'll post some results.

Best regards
Jeg

Ok i am now giving my best research:
https://www.scribd.com/doc/14070044/Free-Energy-Hubbard-Coil

Bye God Bless :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stivep on July 18, 2020, 06:42:26 PM

For physics - god doesn't exist.
So is haven devil, angels and other fairy tale stories.

For physics -we are animals belonging to mammals.
https://leafyplace.com/animal-classes-types-groups/#:~:text=All%20animals%20belonging%20to (https://leafyplace.com/animal-classes-types-groups/#:~:text=All%20animals%20belonging%20to)
%20the%20class%20Mammalia%20are,and%20swimming%20mammals%20%28such%20as%
20otters%20and%20seals%29
https://basicbiology.net/animal/mammals (https://basicbiology.net/animal/mammals)

For physics - another human animal gave you everything you use in your life including.
armory, home appliances, electronics, dress for your wife,:) and personal hygiene products.
medicine, technology, houses and so on.
For physics -there is noting mystical in life of human animals eating other animals ..

_________________________________
I understand that some of you don't like such reality .
Your kids at school get this kind of education there .
So where is that discussion about energy amplification ?

by the way can anyone correct me if I'm wrong?
Is there one single person in the world who can provide proof of opposite reality?
I don't think so...
:)
But..you never know...

Wesley

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on July 18, 2020, 10:54:37 PM

Quote from: stivep on July 18, 2020, 06:42:26 PM
For physics - god doesn't exist.
So is haven devil, angels and other fairy tale stories.

For physics -we are animals belonging to mammals.
https://leafyplace.com/animal-classes-types-groups/#:~:text=All%20animals%20belonging%20to (https://leafyplace.com/animal-classes-types-groups/#:~:text=All%20animals%20belonging%20to)
%20the%20class%20Mammalia%20are,and%20swimming%20mammals%20%28such%20as%
20otters%20and%20seals%29
https://basicbiology.net/animal/mammals (https://basicbiology.net/animal/mammals)

For physics - another human animal gave you everything you use in your life including.
armory, home appliances, electronics, dress for your wife,:) and personal hygiene products.
medicine, technology, houses and so on.
For physics -there is noting mystical in life of human animals eating other animals ..

_________________________________
I understand that some of you don't like such reality .
Your kids at school get this kind of education there .
So where is that discussion about energy amplification ?

by the way can anyone correct me if I'm wrong?
Is there one single person in the world who can provide proof of opposite reality?
I don't think so...
:)
But..you never know...

Wesley

Physics must follow its own principles, which lead to ultimate kinds of questions that a materialist view of the universe cannot fully answer. Many physicists, coming face to face with the wonder and awe of the universe and all its complexities at the macro and micro levels eventually recognize that only an ultimate, infinitely intelligent Higher Power could make this all possible.
Respectfully,
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stivep on July 19, 2020, 12:13:01 AM

can you find me one reputed physicist who would say so?
Can any reputed physicist including you calculate or theoretically support your statement?
Can you support your statement?
I bet you can't
With all do respect to personal values of readers:
Physics is based on proven and working models.
When model becomes outdated it is replaced with another model .
Most of followers don't want to replace their gods with more modern and more correct model.
LGBT the wealthiest human group in the world and modern education, makes all of that "unreformed clergy world " - dancing around them
and twisting their rules to avoid total rejection that makes clergy a total losers in competition for money... with the more attractive and more flexible one.
My dear friends how come nobody is able to to prove me wrong.
I would love to be wrong.
:)
Wesley

PS:So where is that discussion about energy amplification ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 19, 2020, 01:20:27 AM

Quote from: stivep on July 18, 2020, 06:42:26 PM
For physics - god doesn't exist.
So is haven devil, angels and other fairy tale stories.

For physics -we are animals belonging to mammals.
https://leafyplace.com/animal-classes-types-groups/#:~:text=All%20animals%20belonging%20to (https://leafyplace.com/animal-classes-types-groups/#:~:text=All%20animals%20belonging%20to)
%20the%20class%20Mammalia%20are,and%20swimming%20mammals%20%28such%20as%
20otters%20and%20seals%29
https://basicbiology.net/animal/mammals (https://basicbiology.net/animal/mammals)

For physics - another human animal gave you everything you use in your life including.
armory, home appliances, electronics, dress for your wife,:) and personal hygiene products.
medicine, technology, houses and so on.
For physics -there is noting mystical in life of human animals eating other animals ..

_________________________________
I understand that some of you don't like such reality .
Your kids at school get this kind of education there .
So where is that discussion about energy amplification ?

by the way can anyone correct me if I'm wrong?
Is there one single person in the world who can provide proof of opposite reality?
I don't think so...
:)
But..you never know...

Wesley

No!, YOU ARE VERY WRONG!!!
Without God there is no physics, it is God who put limitation in physics and God is unlimitted. And it is physics that tells, there is SUPREME BEING GOD THAT PUTS PHYSICS INTO REALITY!.

It is already revealed in the universe that there is God, it is really an ovbious that some powerful being made everything in harmony!, can't you see that?, you mean everything was just by accident?

I believe you are not blind, but there is missing in you which is the most important thing that even still physics cannot see, FAITH.

It is really easyer to insult someone indirectly but obviously isn't it. ::)
And it is a proof of darkness in the heart of another human animal
That making his own interpretation without solid base. :)

Yes, i believe you, no person currently can give proof you want, BUT AFTER DEATH WE WILL GET ALL THE ANSWER, another BUT!,

WHO IS WISER?, THE ONE WHO BELEIVE IN GOD , OR
THE OTHER ONE WHO DON'T BELEIVE.

LET'S EXAMINE,
LET SAY THEY BOTH DIED IN AN ACCIDENT, NOW
IF THERE IS NO GOD BOTH OF THEM WILL NOT PUNISH BECAUSE THERE IS NO PUNISHER WRIGHT?, BUT WHAT IF THERE IS GOD AND HIS ONLY REQUIREMENT IS FAITH, AND TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE GET ETERNAL LIFE AND THE OTHER ONE WILL BE TORMENTED IN HELL.

I THINK YOU GOT IT IF YOU ARE WISE. 8) [size=78%] [/size]

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 19, 2020, 01:34:35 AM

Quote from: stivep on July 19, 2020, 12:13:01 AM
can you find me one reputed physicist who would say so?
Can any reputed physicist including you calculate or theoretically support your statement?
Can you support your statement?
I bet you can't
With all do respect to personal values of readers:
Physics is based on proven and working models.
When model becomes outdated it is replaced with another model .
Most of followers don't want to replace their gods with more modern and more correct model.
LGBT the wealthiest human group in the world and modern education, makes all of that "unreformed clergy world " - dancing around them
and twisting their rules to avoid total rejection that makes clergy a total losers in competition for money... with the more attractive and more flexible one.
My dear friends how come nobody is able to to prove me wrong.
I would love to be wrong.
:)
Wesley

PS:So where is that discussion about energy amplification ?

Because of what i read i was discharge no more enthusiasm for discussion sorry.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on July 19, 2020, 08:46:15 AM

One thing for certain...from scientists to religious beliefs ..all believe in Miracles ...[evidence of ?]
The miracles that from "Zilch"...Wesley types an opinion.. on a miracle planet...in an apparent miracle universe
[has a beginning or an end...?]
where "time" is what ?? etc etc...ETC
and the mystery of these miracles ?? [for lack of a better word to write which even comes close to explaining...
yeah ...I unapologetically believe in miracles..[even a "Bang" is a miracle...if it allows Wesley
to give an opinion in such a perfect place/planet ...in the abyss of space...and TIME.
things which make the head hurt...and ponder.
Oh and one other thing...its all open source...[as we discover...we share [some say "it is written"

a miracle indeed.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 19, 2020, 12:22:05 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 19, 2020, 01:20:27 AM

No!, YOU ARE VERY WRONG!!!
Without God there is no physics, it is God who put limitation in physics and God is unlimitted. And it is physics that tells, there is SUPREME BEING GOD THAT PUTS PHYSICS INTO REALITY!.

It is already revealed in the universe that there is God, it is really an ovbious that some powerful being made everything in harmony!, can't you see that?, you mean everything was just by accident?

I believe you are not blind, but there is missing in you which is the most important thing that even still physics cannot see, FAITH.

It is really easyer to insult someone indirectly but obviously isn't it. ::)
And it is a proof of darkness in the heart of another human animal
That making his own interpretation without solid base. :)

Yes, i believe you, no person currently can give proof you want, BUT AFTER DEATH WE WILL GET ALL THE ANSWER, another BUT!,

WHO IS WISER?, THE ONE WHO BELEIVE IN GOD , OR
THE OTHER ONE WHO DON'T BELEIVE.

LET'S EXAMINE,
LET SAY THEY BOTH DIED IN AN ACCIDENT, NOW
IF THERE IS NO GOD BOTH OF THEM WILL NOT PUNISH BECAUSE THERE IS NO PUNISHER WRIGHT?, BUT WHAT IF THERE IS GOD AND HIS ONLY REQUIREMENT IS FAITH, AND TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE GET ETERNAL LIFE AND THE OTHER ONE WILL BE TORMENTED IN HELL.

I THINK YOU GOT IT IF YOU ARE WISE. 8) [size=78%] [/size]

So, what are you waiting then?

Take a leap of faith, kill yourself, end your life here, and earn eternal life right now.

You will taste all the fruits you are talking about, all those sweet things.

Why to wait?

Or, maybe, you are not sure, which means that your

faith in God is weak!

Otherwise, you would do it already, long time ago.

Prove me wrong, end your life, and then tell us what it looks like.

Prove me your faith, prove all your claims how you believe in God without any doubt!

Or those thousand posts how you love the God are for nothing.

You know what a leap of faith is?

You will prove to God your believe by taking leap of faith,

not by talking how much you are worthy, and how much you love the God,

but by doing it!

It is not question do you, or not, believe in God,

question is,

does God believes in you?

Are you worthy in his eyes? To take a leap of faith?

Wise man is the one who is aware of this.

Wise man knows that believe is not enough!

If you love the God ? ,

You actually have to earn love of God with your deeds,

and then have enough faith that God believes in you!

Are you that person?

I saw in war lots of Brave man crying.

I also saw how Weak Ones are doing extraordinary deeds,

risking their lives to save the others without faith at all,

making their leap of faith, without knowing,

wondering later, how was it possible? How and why they are still alive?

They found their faith after the deeds.

Starting to believe without doubt.

I saw how real faith can be born.

War is not place for people or God,

but in war you can see true faces of man.

How can you prove your real face.

Are you really true believer?

You have FE device,

make your leap of faith, save the millions.

Otherwise, you are just another false believer.

Another two minded coward hiding behind God.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on July 19, 2020, 12:51:25 PM

FARADAY'S LAW DENOTES ENERGY AMPLIFICATION.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stivep on July 19, 2020, 01:16:52 PM

Quote from: ramset on July 19, 2020, 08:46:15 AM
I unapologetically believe in miracles..[even a "Bang" is a miracle...if it allows Wesley
to give an opinion in such a perfect place/planet ...in the abyss of space...and TIME.

good point ramset ..thank you.
I do respect and I do agree with you.
Bing bang or any theory explaining the beginning of the events in time frame makes perfect sense
to my existence and allows me to write this response in man made forum, computer, internet .
Covid 19 affecting such animals as:
- mammals-humans
and other
- mammals-animals such as
pigs, rats, bats
is the best prove of who we are.
the same organs , body structure ways they multiply, but pigs and horses and cows can be strictly vegetarian and they don't kill human animals other than by accident.
how come any god didn't make humans to respect their life?
what is that human hunt with guns on other animals - just for pleasure, sport, hobby in 10 commandments don't kill.?
a joke?
some kind of a joke?
or just killers double standard not even asking for forgives of the Lord
what gives one sort of animals the rights to decide about life of other animals?
what kind of god we talking about here?
____________________________
Physics is orthodox and very much predictable with its own clear peaceful, commandments benefiting all believers and nonbelievers of any of the gods.
The best "religion" ever.
You don't have to pray or pay for praying in any dedicated place for it.
You don't need to believe - just learn and accept or deny.
and yes there is punishment for sinners deniers, clearly specified, known and real.
- Rejection from some social groups...so they join to rebelliants.
but they are supported quite well by other people who are more educated - in the system known as capitalism.
(21000 dollars poverty level in USA makes them use for free all benefits of modern medical, social, educational, cultural achievement .)

_________________________________________________________
However they have one more important benefit:
They can believe in anything they want to .. and we will respect it.
As it is written in our constitution.
Even more we will never correct them other than just by using suggestive language of passive non intrusive persuasion
___________________________________________

WhatIsIt - as you see it is what it is.. can't do anything about it
Let everyone be happy in their own imaginary or real measurable rightness.
_______________________________

thank you for your opinion my friends

Wesley
PS: Tell me at what point I'm wrong or you have nothing to say from your HIDING PLACE
( made for you by other human-animals, with no evidence of any of the gods involvement and described as "houses" )

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bistander on July 19, 2020, 01:26:23 PM

Quote from: seychelles on July 19, 2020, 12:51:25 PM
FARADAY'S LAW DENOTES ENERGY AMPLIFICATION.

Lenz's Law ( the minus sign) contradicts your statement.
bi

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on July 19, 2020, 01:37:01 PM

THE MINUS SIGN IS A CHALLENGE NOT A CONTRADICTION. THERE IS ONE VERY IMPORTANT
PART MISSING IN THIS FORMULA. AND IT WILL TAKE HUMANITY A LONG TIME TO FIGURE IT OUT.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bistander on July 19, 2020, 01:46:06 PM

Quote from: seychelles on July 19, 2020, 01:37:01 PM
THE MINUS SIGN IS A CHALLENGE NOT A CONTRADICTION. THERE IS ONE VERY IMPORTANT
PART MISSING IN THIS FORMULA. AND IT WILL TAKE HUMANITY A LONG TIME TO FIGURE IT OUT.

Apparently you know this missing part. Please tell us.
Thanks,
bi

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on July 19, 2020, 03:25:03 PM

Perhaps the very Loud fisherman could "whisper" the secret...
Please ?
Not sure waiting : Quote "IT WILL TAKE HUMANITY A LONG TIME TO FIGURE IT OUT" end Quote ... will work out well at this time...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on July 19, 2020, 04:11:29 PM

Or... It is what you make it...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 19, 2020, 10:55:55 PM

@stevep
No offense to you buddy, maybe just because of our certain beliefs makes difference in us.

All of things that we see from universe to a small microbes proving that there is creator to everything. Planets are obviously and intentionally placed in their positions and human animal can't do that but God can. The symbiotic relationship of plant and human animal as you said wherein the plants and trees gives off oxygen and humans and animal gives of carbon dioxide, that means it is intetionally and obviously created in harmony.

I can say that you are certainly very wrong in 'pre requisite'
Because it should be God first before physics.
Physics cannot see God base to the one who is interpreting it.
But God is the creator of physics and made its limitations and God
Is unlimitted therefore God is not under physics he is above physics because there is no
Limitation in Him. :)

Yes i'm hiding from covid19 just kidding :D
So long fel, there is no accident everything is in the perfect creation of God.

@whatisit
:o you mean to say by killing of your self shows that you have faith?
Your also very very wrong, cause that is suicide which is strictly prohibited by God.
Like what i always says FE DEVICE IS NOT!!! The answer.
It may even worsen the life of everyone.

By the way, it doesn't mean to say that if we cannot see by our naked eye means none.
Look at the air we cannot see it but we can feel it right?, same in God
We cannot see Him BUT WE CERTAINLY FEEL HIS PRESSENCE. :)

Tesla said its just like a hammer. Therefore it is always sharp and always whip.

@all
You have to be very wise at these days because Jesus is coming very soon
You have to analized things carefully.
If you think you are genius and knows lots of things, you are in danger
Because you have to humble yourseĺf before God
Just to please him. And that is the open hidden secret. Faith my friend. :)

I want to say lots of things but atleast this is a shortcut.
We have to read AND study the BIBLE to learn more :) .

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on July 20, 2020, 10:32:58 AM

IF I WHISPER THE SECRET I WOULD STILL BE THE LOUD FISHERMAN
YOU WOULD NOT BE THE WISER. THE SECRET IS THE GUITAR STRING.
THE SIXTH STRING TOP THICKER ONE.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 20, 2020, 12:21:40 PM

Tito,

You been reading a book writen by man,

claiming that it is a God words.

For the last 10 years you been sitting on FE,

for the last 10 years you been making GENOCIDE.

I suppose genocide is allowed in your book.

You are FALSE in any possible ways.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 20, 2020, 12:32:32 PM

Tito,

Jesus took a leap of faith for all mankind.

He made suiccide for all of us.

He knew what will happen, but he did it.

He gave you example.

Follow his steps.

If you can?

Are you believer?

Of course, but false one, lying and hidding behind Jesus who showed you the way.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 20, 2020, 12:43:40 PM

Go public and carry a cross for all mankind like Jesus did!

You will be crucified like he was.

Then you will be worthy in the eye of God.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on July 20, 2020, 06:37:30 PM

Something has puzzled me for some time...
Series vs parallel inductors and the results.

More of the parallel than series...
In the Tesla file Tito posted, Tesla says a large inductance of low resistance...
If we wound 100 turns 1 layer on 2in dia air core and we get a certain inductance, then what if we made each winding just 1 turn with leads coming out and we just parallel those corresponding leads, I would think the more turns that there would be more inductance/impedance due to the mutual inductance of each turn vs others.
Just thoughts I had today.
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: v8karlo on July 20, 2020, 06:59:14 PM

If I understand right,
isnt that autotransformer with multiple outputs?
It will behave like single 1 turn output.
With multiple outputs you just split power,
on number of outputs,
merging it again with parallel connections?

Or maybe you thought of something else?
Maybe I did not understant right?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: v8karlo on July 20, 2020, 07:07:34 PM

Tito also suggested similar with capacitors.
Charging number of caps serialy,
Then discharging one by one sequentialy.

Did not worked, I tried.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: v8karlo on July 20, 2020, 07:18:50 PM

Autotransformer and inductor are same thing.
It depends where your output on inductor is.
And its behaviour is as any transformer.

No other difference. No difference at all.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: v8karlo on July 20, 2020, 07:29:59 PM

If the autotransformer has no load on its output?

What is it?

Just an inductor.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: d3x0r on July 20, 2020, 08:00:32 PM

You really could just give it away; people come here looking for 'I've got this thing, help me sell it' and the best we can muster is 'Yeah, I know this guy, but I don't really want to bother him with another thing that doesn't actually work, so let's see this thing' but even at that there's NDA's which are really only as good as a handshake....

I mean really, why delay the inevitable? Someone will always want to use the power to get more power and build something to suppress everyone else anyway... I mean so what if they blow up a planet?

like hey - if this is free, then we can just use ALL of it, and make a mega computer that generates as much heat as a sun, just cause we can... and of course that means the heat has to go somewhere, I'm sure the earth can absorb a few more degrees? the vacuum of space isn't a very good heat sink....

can we make cold without moving the heat somewhere else? we can't just stop things from moving... just dissipate their entropy.

lets make enough power to make a coil that's equivalent to the earth's field, and see if we can crush it like a tin can...

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: v8karlo on July 20, 2020, 08:48:47 PM

Most people follow the greed.

Lets imagine that only one inventor give FE for free?
At first he lost lots of money, and throw away years and years.

It is true.

But then, he wake up in the morning, cook breakfirst for free,
because electricity is for free.
He goes out of house and saw electrical machines are working around house for free.
Then he seets in his electric car and drove to job for free.

On job, his boss told him, hey, I dont have expences on electricity and my vehicles,
so I can give you better sallary because I have more money left in my pocket.

Hey , OK, sounds good.

After work, man goes to shop, all products are cheaper then yesterday.
Who, thats great.

At the end did inventor lose or win by giving his most precious to the world?

Did he even lose anything?

Or did he gain everything?

It is bizarre question, but is true.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 20, 2020, 11:05:41 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 20, 2020, 12:21:40 PM
Tito,

You been reading a book writen by man,

claiming that it is a God words.

For the last 10 years you been sitting on FE,

for the last 10 years you been making GENOCIDE.

I suppose genocide is allowed in your book.

You are FALSE in any possible ways.

See, i told you have to read and carefully study the Bible so you won't get lost.

No offense also to you buddy, but yes i'm reading a bible made by man 'GUIDED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT'. SEEE! :D got the difference buddy?

Actually it is more genocide if FE is in public, this is why:
Let me give you a little bit of history,
When bulb are still incandecent bulb
Electricity bill is 50 dollar now when it was change into leds which are economy in electricity, the bill is 150 dollar. :o
What does it mean?,
I think you know the answer, the government will find another way
For his lost to the public. And that will surely
Will applied to all of us, promise. :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 20, 2020, 11:24:18 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 20, 2020, 12:32:32 PM
Tito,

Jesus took a leap of faith for all mankind.

He made suiccide for all of us.

He knew what will happen, but he did it.

He gave you example.

Follow his steps.

If you can?

Are you believer?

Of course, but false one, lying and hidding behind Jesus who showed you the way.

See?, wrong again,
It was a great plan of God beggining when adam and eve got sin.
For the world to be saved it needs someone holy to be made sacrifice,
And that is Jesus, He did it ones and for all not for his self, cause he doesn't need salvation but for us. See God really loves us. John 3:16.

Requirement:
THAT IS JUST FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE. Just believe my friends.

Like what i said , you have to analyzed carefully when reading the Bible cause
The devil will really mislead you especially if you are not a believer.

He's really making lot of people
not to believe so that he has company tormented in hell.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 20, 2020, 11:32:26 PM

Quote from: v8karlo on July 20, 2020, 07:07:34 PM
Tito also suggested similar with capacitors.
Charging number of caps serialy,
Then discharging one by one sequentialy.

Did not worked, I tried.

Wrong!
Charging them in parallel and discharging
them in sequence atleast 4 to 8 caps of 10k mf each.
in ------' transformer.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 20, 2020, 11:39:46 PM

Quote from: v8karlo on July 20, 2020, 08:48:47 PM
Most people follow the greed.

Lets imagine that only one inventor give FE for free?
At first he lost lots of money, and throw awaty years and years.

It is true.

But then, he wake up in the morning, cook breakfirst for free,
because electricity is for free.
He goes out of house and saw electrical machines are working around house for free.
Then he seets in his electric car and drove to job for free.

On job, his boss told him, hey, I dont have expences on electricity and my vehicles,
so I can give you better sallary because I have more money left in my pocket.

Hey , OK, sounds good.

After work, man goes to shop, all products are cheaper then yesterday.
Who, thats great.

At the end did inventor lose or win by giving his most precious to the world?

Did he even lose anything?

Or did he gain everything?

It is bizarre question, but is true.

Before you call someone 'GREED' you have to really know his heart first.
And if you see many are following to the greed, don't join them ;D lol.
Its for abnormal scientist only , baby are not allowed,
We are in quarantine, mr covid is on the way. ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 20, 2020, 11:48:54 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 20, 2020, 12:43:40 PM
Go public and carry a cross for all mankind like Jesus did!

You will be crucified like he was.

Then you will be worthy in the eye of God.

YOu don't really understand what you are saying buddy.
I'm tired of explaining. ;D

No one found holy in human animal, so
God needs Jesus as a holy sacrifice ONCE AND FOR ALL!, got it?

Since Jesus already done that crucifixion,
(He GOD), ONLY REQUIREMENT IS TO HAVE FAITH IN JESUS TO BE SAVED!!!
UNDERSTOOD?. >:(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on July 20, 2020, 11:56:09 PM

BELIEVING IS ONE THING. ARE YOU A NIKE. JUST DO IT. THE RIGHTEOUS DEEDS.
IF ASK OF YOU WHAT IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM HUMANITY HAS BEEN, IS
AND WILL ALWAYS BE FACING. I BET YOU A MILLION RUPEES NONE OF YOU
CAN GIVE ME THAT ANSWER.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: v8karlo on July 21, 2020, 12:06:04 AM

Tito,

Jesus was saved from the moment he died.
God took him back.
He deserved it with what he did for mankind.

What you are saying is pity excuse for doing nothing,

and excuse for you to do nothing in future.

You must prey to never meet Jesus or God in person and tell them that shit.

Something is very wrong with you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 21, 2020, 12:18:01 AM

Quote from: v8karlo on July 21, 2020, 12:06:04 AM
Jesus was saved from the moment he died.
God took him back.
He deserved it with what he did for mankind.

What you are saying is pity excuse for doing nothing,

and excuse for you to do nothing in future.

You must prey to never meet Jesus or God in person and tell them that shit.

Something is very wrong with you.

WHAT!!!
You don't know the great story plan of Jesus also. See you
Don't read the Bible also. Oh boy
I'm tired.
What's wrong with me, somebody help me
Please. :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on July 21, 2020, 02:36:12 AM

What are you on about 'Jesus' is a word invented to mean savoir by King James
to secure his grip on his power that was invented by the Romans .

Perhaps you thinking of the 'Elohim' the cap[tors of the Samaritans who
say they were 'sky people' there is literally tuns of evidence to this day
that this is so.
Your probably reading the personal stories of Joseph and
Sera when they left left the garden of Eden translates to garden of animals).

Or perhaps you mean Yashure or Yeshua but he didn't belong to any religious cult.

On the other hand, sabotaging and this thread makes you a a disruptive
TROLL ! :) :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on July 21, 2020, 04:51:57 AM

How to treat theoretical defined terms and numbers !?

Force,Energy,Power
Here in internal combustion engine/electric drive comparison

When 136 ic hp are equivalent 12,5 KW electric motor

http://www.evalbum.com/motor (http://www.evalbum.com/motor)
Gas engines are rated at their peak hp, electric motors are rated at their continuous hp. The peak hp of an electric motor is usually 8 to 10 times its continuous rating.

and instead a. railway car 100 to 140 ic hp George Constantinescu changed to 10 ic hp + torque converter/ amplifier

b. street car 45 hp to 10 hp + torque converter/amplifier

a "peoples car " or in German : VOLKSWAGEN
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Constantinescu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Constantinescu)
http://www.rexresearch.com/constantinesco2/constantinesco.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/constantinesco2/constantinesco.htm)
http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/1constran.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/1constran.htm)

His idea was to produce a low cost one hundred guinea "peoples' car'' which would travel 100 miles on one gallon of petrol at the most commonly used road speeds of 30 to 40 miles per hour.

George first successfully tested a Torque Converter in a car in May l 923, using an experimental model that had been built only for bench tests. He obtained an old Sheffield Simplex chassis and replaced the big 45 hp engine with a 10 hp "light car'' Singer engine, and built a platform on the chassis. This car was driven around the outskirts of London loaded with 10 people, including the inventor at the wheel, fig. 21, and later towed a lorry up a steep hill. As a further demonstration of the capabilities of the car, six inch wooden blocks were placed in front of the wheels. When the accelerator was depressed the car climbed over the blocks smoothly and without hesitation, to the astonishment of the bystanders. This test was merely to demonstrate the possibilities of the Torque Converter, because even a 10 hp engine was much larger than necessary for the production car envisaged.

http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/fig25.jpg (http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/fig25.jpg)

http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/fig26.jpg (http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/fig26.jpg)

Testing, development and manufacture was carried out at the former Malaxa Ironworks of Bucharest during the 1930s. Initially, successful tests were carried out with a 10 hp engine and converter mounted in a 10 tonne railcar. These results were very encouraging considering that similar cars in other countries were using 100 to 140 hp engines. The next stage was the establishment of production lines and special machine tools for the building of 30 tonne passenger railcars with 60 seats. These were propelled by two engines of 20 hp each mounted under the chassis. These railcars ran without trouble at about 40 mph, a performance which appeared to be quite suitable for conditions in Romania at the time. Looking to the future more power and faster speeds would be required on main lines as well as branch lines to meet the needs of rapidly growing industry and infrastructure in all countries. Bearing this in mind, George made a survey of requirements and solutions proposed in several other countries, including Germany, Britain and the United States.

how many rated KW need the electric motor coupled with the G.C. torque converter/amplifier ?

a. ( 10 hp/136 hp) x 12,5 KW : ?

b. ( 10 hp/ 45 hp) x 12,5 KW : ?

LESS THAN a. 1 KW ELECTRIC MOTOR and

b. 2,8 KW ELECTRIC MOTOR !

( by pure calculation !)

The electric consume by high permanent magnets torque motor ?

An example : 2,8 KW nominal / 0,7 ( for 70% electro magnet motor efficiency) ~ 4 KWh consume per hour

4 KWh x 0,3 ( Ogino Sanshiro basic factor electric/permanent magnet motor 70% savings) ~ 1,2 KWh per hour

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=2002175580A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20021128&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=2002175580A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20021128&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

[0059] As a result of comparison between the structure according to the present invention and the structure as a comparison example comprising the electromagnet element 17 and the attraction member 57 without the provision of the permanent magnet element 19, it has been found that the electrical energy (W) required for the structure of the present invention is less than one-third through one-fourth of that which is required for the comparison example having no permanent magnet element 19 when the attractive force of each of the working surfaces is the same between the two.

[0060] Further, when we suppose a reluctance motor to which the structure of the above-described comparison example is applied, the energy conversion efficiency thereof will be about 30%. However, if a reluctance motor utilizing the structure of the present invention requires an electrical energy of less than 30% as compared to the structure of the comparison example, an output exceeding the electrical input can be estimated and this fact shows that the energy of the permanent magnet element is being converted into a dynamic energy corresponding thereto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X58oEF1dBqg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X58oEF1dBqg) https://web.archive.org/web/20090925065936/http://www.loremo.com/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20090925065936/http://www.loremo.com/)

When the Loremo concept car was calculated with a 20 hp ic engine ( eco version ),how many electric motor KWs will be need with G.C. torque converter coupling ?

When 45 hp ic engine was changed to 10 hp ic engine then 20 hp would become changed to 4,5 hp ic engine !
4,5 hp ic engine equates ? KW permanent magnet torque electric motor ?

When we take the austinev.org comparison
peak to peak 136 hp ic ~ 12,5 KW electric

(4,5 hp /136 hp ) x 12,5 KW
~ 0,42 KW Loremo electric drive + G.C. torque converter / amplifier

When we see the Loremo we see the VW XL1 and the Amory Lovins HYPERCAR

https://youtu.be/ZiA4cpJb0uw (https://youtu.be/ZiA4cpJb0uw)

0:56 " ..... only 0,3% ..... "

when 6 liter gasoline per 100 Kilometers equates 60 000 Wh then represents 0,3% : 180 Wh per 100 Kilometers

easy to renew the portable power storage during the drive : brake recuperation ,solar,......

20 hp ic were from these " bestsellers" the engines their power : Morris Mini,2CV,Fiat 500

Car drive energy renewable source :

With 45% efficiency 1 sqm photo-thermo voltaic energy conversion gives by full sunshine 600 Wh !
Reference : Sono- motor and Novasolix
https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2018/11/23/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-a-90-efficient-solar-panel/ (https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2018/11/23/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-a-90-efficient-solar-panel/)

Force,Power,Energy : N.Tesla and Toribio Bellocq and George Constantinescu : sonic energy

In the 24/365 cities and their suburbs street and highways controled future the "autonomous car,driver-free" does not need more rated power ,the G.Constantinescu car concept average street velocity equates nearly 100% the german traffic driver average velocity : 56 Km-h or 35 (land) miles per hour

His idea ( G.C.)was to produce a low cost one hundred guinea "peoples' car'' which would travel 100 miles on one gallon of petrol at the most commonly used road speeds of 30 to 40 miles per hour.

Average car velocity in german innercities : +- 11 up to 14 miles per hour !
https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/994676/umfrage/innerstaedtische-durchschnittsgeschwindigkeit-im-autoverkehr-in-deutschen-staedten/ (https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/994676/umfrage/innerstaedtische-durchschnittsgeschwindigkeit-im-autoverkehr-in-deutschen-staedten/)

https://www.adac.de/_mmm/pdf/statistik_mobilitaet_in_deutschland_0111_46603.pdf (https://www.adac.de/_mmm/pdf/statistik_mobilitaet_in_deutschland_0111_46603.pdf)

page 11 : 42,2 Km per hour car "fast" velocity ! 26,2 mph !

Probably taking an old "Lotus Elise" https://auto.howstuffworks.com/lotus-elise3.htm (https://auto.howstuffworks.com/lotus-elise3.htm) ,
like Tesla Motor Inc. did : Lotus Elise chassis = Tesla Roadster chassis,
taking away the conventional engine parts and introduce the 5 KW permanent magnet motor and G.C. torque converter

Comparison : G.Constantinescu electric motor + torque converter with

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1)

instead 50 hp engine Porquer differential + 4 x 500 W electric motors

G.Constantinesu (10/45) x 50 = 11,2 hp ic engine + torque converter

(11,2/8) ic to electric = 1,4 KW electric motor + torque converter

BTW: Jesus has a plan ? Yes,clearly !

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Jorge_Jesus.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Jorge_Jesus.jpg)
After Flamengo de Rio de Janeiro he will be the new coach from Benfica Lisbon ! ::) ;) ;D

Both sites have :
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Cristo_Redentor_-_Rio_de_Janeiro%2C_Brasil.jpg/1200px-Cristo_Redentor_-_Rio_de_Janeiro%2C_Brasil.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Cristo_Redentor_-_Rio_de_Janeiro%2C_Brasil.jpg/1200px-Cristo_Redentor_-_Rio_de_Janeiro%2C_Brasil.jpg)

https://lissabon.sehenswuerdigkeiten-online.de/sehenswuerdigkeiten/img/crisrei2m.jpg (https://lissabon.sehenswuerdigkeiten-online.de/sehenswuerdigkeiten/img/crisrei2m.jpg)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 21, 2020, 06:20:54 AM

Quote from: AlienGrey on July 21, 2020, 02:36:12 AM
What are you on about 'Jesus' is a word invented to mean savoir by King James
to secure his grip on his power that was invented by the Romans .

Perhaps you thinking of the 'Elohim' the cap[tors of the Samaritans who
say they were 'sky people' there is literally tuns of evidence to this day
that this is so.
Your probably reading the personal stories of Joseph and
Sera when they left left the garden of Eden translates to garden of animals).

Or perhaps you mean Yashure or Yeshua but he didn't belong to any religious cult.

On the other hand, sabotaging and this thread makes you a a disruptive
TROLL ! :) :)

Hi sir, peace be with you. :(
Why are you calling me disruptive troll?.
Is that makes you happy? :(
You know what sir? If you can't see and feel God behind His creations, means you
Are totally blinded by the devil. No offence but that is the truth. :) :) :)

Proofs of existence of God.
I pray that God will open your eyes and mind. :)
https://youtu.be/eQVm8RokoBA (https://youtu.be/eQVm8RokoBA)
https://youtu.be/-iuGn9jSPmQ (https://youtu.be/-iuGn9jSPmQ)
https://youtu.be/dWrEczFaygk (https://youtu.be/dWrEczFaygk)
https://youtu.be/ihnOkBC99RY (https://youtu.be/ihnOkBC99RY)

If these proofs didn't made you believe then
its so very sad. :( :( :( :( :(

I think i'm off the popcorn. :( :( :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on July 21, 2020, 07:19:08 AM

El or ELohim : and nobody,only I ::) , writes and thinks about his wife Aschera ! :-\ :'( I will abort EL from my heaven ! 8)

And will stay avec ELLE alone ! ::)

Tito,probably you heared about this european time era : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War)

cuius regio,cuius religio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaG0-wPuanw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaG0-wPuanw)

The base : the augustin mongue Martin Luther did translate the Bible ,from Latin into the ancient "german/saxonian" language !

http://www.zeno.org/Literatur/M/Luther,+Martin/Luther-Bibel+1545 (http://www.zeno.org/Literatur/M/Luther,+Martin/Luther-Bibel+1545)

Before this act the believer received "Gods speech" in "Latin"- language,a language which up to 99% from them did neither spoke nor understood !

believer an-alphabetism

There-in was the MYSTIK ! The UNKNOWN ! The FANTASY !

But the churches their building ,with the sculptures,the smell from Myrrhe and incense,the images,the golden artefacts

representing "heavens´richdom"

and the rituals from the "man in black (also called priest/reverend/pastor )" or coloured during church celebrations influenced their thinking about the
"holly sea" and Paradise !

Now,in understandable language, they mostly felt violated,because for this they paid each year the 1/10 from their earnings !

For a childisch lend(a)/legende/saga/epos !

They become angry and for many the decision : anymore religio,but regio ! 1618-1648 p.C.

"Kommunistische Manifest" ,the political program from the "1.commun(it)e parisienne",written by F.Engels and K.Marx
and the french romano-catholic church their later answer ,for the "proletarier/worker "-movement defeat :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Paris_Sacre_Coeur_BW_1.jpg/220px-Paris_Sacre_Coeur_BW_1.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Paris_Sacre_Coeur_BW_1.jpg/220px-Paris_Sacre_Coeur_BW_1.jpg)

Do you know european language laws ,written and spoken ?

Angelo laws( today Danmark) ? Saxonian laws? Ancient and today !? Anglo-Saxonic ,angelo to anglais/englisch/inglais

GOD : is the G spelled or spoken ? Is the D an hard or a soft D ? G´OSH = the voice Górge = der Schlund

GOTT IS GOD ,fuer den Einen wichtig "existent zu sein", fuer den Anderen "Nihil"

GOTT in platt-german spoken : Jott

IOS,Iove was the "God/Deius " in the roman imperium ,an italika conversion from the gracian ZEUS

latin an-alphabet logic :P : Io ve tudo/totum : Gott=Io + sieht= infinitiv videre/ver=sehen alles ! God knows all

portuguese : Ceu = heaven

Deius now in portuguese Deus and in Fillip/Phillip-inic/spanisch/spanish/espagnol : Dios

In Psychology we think after S.Freud definition I(CH)- Over-I - IT/ES(=GOD) now in the Over-IT/ES state !

The Bible is also to find in the word Vibel/Fible/Fibel,ancient the basic school language learning book ! Bibliothek !

we are writing in latin letters and seldom in original language !

You are reading the Bible ? From right to left ? In hebrew ,the older part ,AT = Alte Testament ?

https://www.bibelgesellschaft.at/originaltext-bleibt-durch-uebersetzung-sichtbar (https://www.bibelgesellschaft.at/originaltext-bleibt-durch-uebersetzung-sichtbar)

https://archive.org/details/dasneuetestamen04unkngoog (https://archive.org/details/dasneuetestamen04unkngoog) NT = Neue Testament ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stivep on July 21, 2020, 03:07:50 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 21, 2020, 06:20:54 AM
https://youtu.be/eQVm8RokoBA (https://youtu.be/eQVm8RokoBA)

My dear friend .
I have looked at only this video and that was enough for me.
what the waste of my time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Schroeder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Schroeder)
by assumption of Antony Flew (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Flew), an academic philosopher
Gerald Lawrence Schroeder - Orthodox Jewish (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Judaism) physicist, form MIT is
deist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deist)[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Schroeder#cite_note-9)[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Schroeder#cite_note-10).
I'm Jewish too.
For a Human animal Gerald Lawrence Schroeder in his mind is not the cow and and not the dog
from the same group of mammals - the humans belong too
- and he is not even some special chosen human but is just human or simply human and there is nothing special about him.
In wikipedia he is pictured as making claims : that

Quote" god's 6st day of creation things is just ending now."

From that , it looks like God was very much like Speedy Gonzales- to fast for what it says about him in the bible .
So all of that fairy and furry biblical tales doesn't match with Gerald Lawrence Schroeder own teaching in
Hebrew University of Jerusalem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_University_of_Jerusalem)
The biblical dragons and all of the god stories doesn't match even to explanation of Schroeder reality of time frame.
I have nothing against any creator or creators before Big Bang.
I have nothing against you and your position in this area
go with it to another social group please.
We were suppose to talk about energy amplification here .

Any Physicist including Gerald Lawrence Schroeder must obey duties and requirements of the official science or become
an unconventional weirdo , rejected by world and recognized by these who see benefit of keeping him there.
Physicist as every human animal must know that place to defecate in is likely a toilet in his privacy ....unless he wants to defecate at others in public.
The primary role of Physicist is to deliver physical value and make theoretical , technological bases for technical progress.
Physicist duty is NOT to promote spiritual values - for that they have other guys all around hungry for some donations.

I'm happy that I'm American having freedom of expression written in constitution.
---------------------------------------------------------
Dear Tito L. Oracion .
this is not synagogue or church.
Participants of this forum wants to "eat" energy, equations, amplification, electronics and god is not giving us any direct
evidence of his direct willingness to participate in human-animals progress. - he is not writing posts, here with technical data.
He or she or it - doesn't want us
to have Free Energy.. given by him directly...

QuoteScrew you human-animal..
do it yourself using your physicists if you want to ...
"U Ain't Gonna Get It" from me
Rules are simple. I request and you obey and I judge you based on my mood
or I'll send you and other mammals animals my latest creation - the corona virus.
Just because ...
because and because I said so.
___________________________
Yes even if Lucifer was mentally ill and not able to understand my greatness,
I created him this way and I knew that he's gonna revolt as I know everything about the future.
Even if Lucifer begs me to forgive him, as his only crime was blabbing to much in haven
I'll say NO..
QuoteI don't need sin to disappear as this will make humans all good..

Devils will become angles again.
No courts no crime
Church will get bankrupt
St Peter will be unemployed .
Nuns will start sexual life before they retire.
Somebody need to support them than.. Right
Nuns have very little time left Biological clock is running fast
You want to ruin all of my system?
no saints not even ..old Irish saint will be mentioned any longer
And who is going to bow to me as there is no more fear of my punishment.
And religion is spouse to be based of fear..
Total anarchy..
I don't need this group of mammals the human-animals to be happy..
suffering makes me great again.. and needed.
Quote
Sorry Lucifer, I created you with lower IQ ,so can revolt giving me an excuse to punish you for- asking to many questions.
No forgives for Lucifer, as this is politically incorrect.
So now get your but, back to Hell and do your job I need you there .
Quotewhat kind of frckin' reality is that?

This was:
VERY MUCH CONTROVERSIAL OPINION OF A SCIENTIST
...

Gerald_Schroeder is not gona give you a sh*t

Be well Tito , I wish you the best.
Wesley

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 21, 2020, 11:00:27 PM

Quote from: stivep on July 21, 2020, 03:07:50 PM
My dear friend .
I have looked at only this video and that was enough for me.
what the waste of my time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Schroeder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Schroeder)
by assumption of Antony Flew (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Flew), an academic philosopher
Gerald Lawrence Schroeder - Orthodox Jewish (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Judaism) physicist, form MIT is
deist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deist)[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Schroeder#cite_note-9)[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Schroeder#cite_note-10).
I'm Jewish too.
For a Human animal Gerald Lawrence Schroeder in his mind is not the cow and and not the dog
from the same group of mammals - the humans belong too
- and he is not even some special chosen human but is just human or simply human and there is nothing special about him.
In wikipedia he is pictured as making claims : that From that , it looks like God was very much like Speedy Gonzales- to fast for what it says about him in the bible .
So all of that fairy and furry biblical tales doesn't match with Gerald Lawrence Schroeder own teaching in
Hebrew University of Jerusalem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_University_of_Jerusalem)
The biblical dragons and all of the god stories doesn't match even to explanation of Schroeder reality of time frame.
I have nothing against any creator or creators before Big Bang.
I have nothing against you and your position in this area
go with it to another social group please.
We were suppose to talk about energy amplification here .

Any Physicist including Gerald Lawrence Schroeder must obey duties and requirements of the official science or become
an unconventional weirdo , rejected by world and recognized by these who see benefit of keeping him there.
Physicist as every human animal must know that place to defecate in is likely a toilet in his privacy ....unless he wants to defecate at others in public.
The primary role of Physicist is to deliver physical value and make theoretical , technological bases for technical progress.
Physicist duty is NOT to promote spiritual values - for that they have other guys all around hungry for some donations.

I'm happy that I'm American having freedom of expression written in constitution.
---------------------------------------------------------
Dear Tito L. Oracion .
this is not synagogue or church.
Participants of this forum wants to "eat" energy, equations, amplification, electronics and god is not giving us any direct
evidence of his direct willingness to participate in human-animals progress. - he is not writing posts, here with technical data.
He or she or it - doesn't want us
to have Free Energy.. given by him directly...

Devils will become angles again.
No courts no crime
Church will get bankrupt
St Peter will be unemployed .
Nuns will start sexual life before they retire.
Somebody need to support them than.. Right
Nuns have very little time left Biological clock is running fast
You want to ruin all of my system?
no saints not even ..old Irish saint will be mentioned any longer
And who is going to bow to me as there is no more fear of my punishment.
And religion is spouse to be based of fear..
Total anarchy..
I don't need this group of mammals the human-animals to be happy..
suffering makes me great again.. and needed.

This was:
VERY MUCH CONTROVERSIAL OPINION OF A SCIENTIST
...
Gerald_Schroeder is not gona give you a sh*t

Be well Tito , I wish you the best.
Wesley

:( :( :( :( :( :( :(
Ohhhhhhh sir. :(
I actually admire many of your post. :) :(
Haven't you feel any presence of God?, thats too sad :(
I beleive this is not accident God is the one really working here for you
To know that He really exist, He loves all atheist.
He is coming very soon.
In that case i can't do anything more,
Thats your side and decision so be it.
Lets just wait and see the truth of God. :)

Please listen for the lastime:
https://youtu.be/NXfSQaFrsCQ

https://youtu.be/U89zkUZPd5w

GOD BLESS AND GOODBYE EVERYONE :) :(

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stivep on July 21, 2020, 11:49:17 PM

I do thank you for your response.
Please understand that I didn't ask you to leave .
I only ask you to move your thematically unrelated
opinion that lies in area of spiritualism.to the groups..."manifesting need and absolute participation"
I believe that right people may see a lot of value in
your dedication.
Wesley

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 22, 2020, 01:22:30 AM

:( :( :(
I've been so very stubborn here for many years and been acting
As a very bad person, i even see someone wants me dead,
Even they push me to go out a here always i kept on comming.
Sorry about that. :(
But to tell you the truth, if you only can see my heart , brain and eyes are
Really in tears currently believe it or not, i considered everyone in here as my brother or friends
Especially the atheist, i don't really know why they can't see God and i can,
Whats wrong really with their eyes or my eyes why? why? why? :( :-\
I kept on inserting and inserting what i believe is truth,
Making always debate on them not that i don't like them but
Simply because i love them all and that is really what is in my heart everyone. :) :'(
Because i know God will hurt them eternally and i don't want that
To happen honestly :( :'(
To Anyone, i am not angry to all of you ok.
There is reason to everything.
Finally i think this is now really my point of no return. :) :'(

@ mags
Thin and thick you are there buddy even though we quarrel manytimes
You are in my heart really :-*

@bob smith
Though i am not responding to you always, you are still there to support.
And i love you for that buddy. :)

Guess thats it?
Covid19 is getting nearer and nearer in my vicinity,
i'm an asthmatic, i don't know if i can survive if i got infected by this virus.
Hope we see in person each other someday.. :D

Finally the secret
None other than Tesla transformer!!! 8)
Do the avalantz its unlimitted controlled by your decision.
Back emf is the one that we can accumulate.

Bye now, hopefully please pray for me. :)
Just do the recursion infinite loop like in turbo c language. 8)

GOODBYE EVERYBODY
GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU

IN DANGER
TEETS ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 22, 2020, 10:11:57 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 22, 2020, 01:22:30 AM
:( :( :(
I've been so very stubborn here for many years and been acting
As a very bad person, i even see someone wants me dead,
Even they push me to go out a here always i kept on comming.
Sorry about that. :(
But to tell you the truth, if you only can see my heart , brain and eyes are
Really in tears currently believe it or not, i considered everyone in here as my brother or friends
Especially the atheist, i don't really know why they can't see God and i can,
Whats wrong really with their eyes or my eyes why? why? why? :( :-\
I kept on inserting and inserting what i believe is truth,
Making always debate on them not that i don't like them but
Simply because i love them all and that is really what is in my heart everyone. :) :'(
Because i know God will hurt them eternally and i don't want that
To happen honestly :( :'(
To Anyone, i am not angry to all of you ok.
There is reason to everything.
Finally i think this is now really my point of no return. :) :'(

@ mags
Thin and thick you are there buddy even though we quarrel manytimes
You are in my heart really :-*

@bob smith
Though i am not responding to you always, you are still there to support.
And i love you for that buddy. :)

Guess thats it?
Covid19 is getting nearer and nearer in my vicinity,
i'm an asthmatic, i don't know if i can survive if i got infected by this virus.
Hope we see in person each other someday.. :D

Finally the secret
None other than Tesla transformer!!! 8)
Do the avalantz its unlimitted controlled by your decision.
Back emf is the one that we can accumulate.

Bye now, hopefully please pray for me. :)
Just do the recursion infinite loop like in turbo c language. 8)

GOODBYE EVERYBODY
GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU

IN DANGER
TEETS ;D

I can not see your hart, brain or eyes.
Maybe if you crack your skull and show me your brain,
but that will be bad for you, so dont do something like that.

And I dont wanna you dead.
I wish you to live for a long time.

Good bye Tito,
and stay selfish as long as you live!

If Corona hits you, get back here, we will help you,
just as you helped the world.
So, no worries, you are the king of your castle.

Live long and prosper!

Bye!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 22, 2020, 10:14:06 AM

You are my favorite loony!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: sparkmen on July 22, 2020, 12:26:55 PM

'''Guess thats it?
Covid19 is getting nearer and nearer in my vicinity,
i'm an asthmatic, i don't know if i can survive if i got infected by this virus.
Hope we see in person each other someday.. :D

Finally the secret
None other than Tesla transformer!!! 8)
Do the avalantz its unlimitted controlled by your decision.
Back emf is the one that we can accumulate.'''

hi triangle, i hope you will survive covid and share some more of your secret... maybe some schematics?

if you will not make it and take the secret with you..... I dont want to meet you in afterlife...

be well

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 22, 2020, 04:12:47 PM

Tito,

You been f..... me for the last 10 years so much,
that I dont know if I have my ass.
I been replicating so much nonsense,
that I even not remember any more.

You see what you did to me and other members,
you sick MF?

Do you see it? Are you laughing? You sick b......!
You should not die once, it will be so easy.

I pray to God for one thing in your case!
You know What Is It!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 22, 2020, 04:28:58 PM

Tito,

How can you tell to your children that you are hero.
I hope they are not reading this forum.
For your own personal good.

How can you even look into your childrens eyes?

Did they know that daddy is a monster?

Jesus will save you. I dont think so, and the others.

Stay rotten forever.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on July 22, 2020, 08:26:27 PM

Ok, here is more on what im thinking on inductors parallel or series.

If we have a ferite toroid core, wind 100 turns as a secondary, then make a 1 complete turn primary and apply an input of 1vac, we should have 100v on the secondary.

If we wind 2 turns for a primary and we apply 1vac, we should have 50vac on the sec, .5v per each pri turn. Sound right?

Now, if we make 2 primary turns and connect them in parallel and apply 1vac, what will be the sec voltage? We have 2 'windings' with 1vac across each. More current than just a single turn primary. 3 pri windings in parallel?

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on July 22, 2020, 08:32:13 PM

on the subject
magnetic force is the only key to free energy!!!Sir Von herman hemltzholz energy consevation law excempt....

according to our books, magnetic force cant do work? this is a BIG LIE

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bistander on July 22, 2020, 11:31:01 PM

Quote from: luc2010 on July 22, 2020, 08:32:13 PM
on the subject
magnetic force is the only key to free energy!!!Sir Von herman hemltzholz energy consevation law excempt....

according to our books, magnetic force cant do work? this is a BIG LIE

Hi luc2010,
Please provide list, or at least some examples, of those books with the page numbers where you find the "BIG LIE".
Regards,
bi

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 23, 2020, 01:25:17 AM

Quote from: luc2010 on July 22, 2020, 08:32:13 PM
on the subject
magnetic force is the only key to free energy!!!Sir Von herman hemltzholz energy consevation law excempt....

according to our books, magnetic force cant do work? this is a BIG LIE

Can you provide some example of what exactly do you mean by that?

Thanks.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 23, 2020, 03:03:30 AM

yes, I found it too
magnetic field is continuous energy flow out and in - source of free energyFaraday law of induction is the way to tap itthe problem with current generators is only the BIG LIEthey are made to burn fuelthey have kind of positive feedback scheme which disallow COP > 1 while allow compact construction of generator , so it's mostly the smallest part of power plant ;-)yes, creating free energy 1000MW power plant is not an easy task, maybe impossible but 1000 1MW smaller ones running 24/7 is quite possible

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on July 23, 2020, 05:08:04 AM

1800,1900,2000,2020 :

Thousands words to 1 image
1 image to thousand words

Thousand images to 1 word
1 word to thousand images

2020 : the word : transformer image : ?

1880-1920+ the word : transformer the image : one coil

Soon 1 coil was in his function called " transformer" !
2 coils,bifiliar ? Pancake style ?

The older condenser/capacitor were based by two coils ! Later foils !

Magnetism and work : like the MEG(M for motionless) T.T.Brown his MEP( P for pump)

https://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0211/0211001.pdf (https://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0211/0211001.pdf) "..... not understood ..."

Two coils : seriell or parallel,Lenz and Fleming laws in action !?Magnetic field and its force behaviour ?

Google patents : John C.Bedini cited and citing applications related Back-EMF and closed pump cycle
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4055789A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4055789A/en)

Regenerative cycle or recycle : 100% never possible ,but also not in need !

Difference : efficiency : ever ≤ 1 or 100% and
work C.O.P. ≥ 1

Thomas Townsend Brown in his 1928 GB motor application writing : C.O.P. : up to 1000000
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/010163175/publication/GB300311A?q=pn%3DGB300311A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/010163175/publication/GB300311A?q=pn%3DGB300311A)
In some instances the ratio may be even as high as a million to one.

Thinking and understanding how they in their time did !

Why N.Tesla moved from motor concepts to HF motionless coils/transformer systems :
his last rotative drive was a 293 poles motor ! Complex and costs !

And this was/is the base from Dr.Pavel Imris and my 2005-2010 work with the portuguese technician Jorge Ferreira !

Who study the above cited Bedini cited/citing applications will understand Dr.Pavel Imris his "capacitive windings circuit",low loss displacement energy ( voltage and current) cycle !

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=202016004514U1&KC=U1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20160812&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=202016004514U1&KC=U1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20160812&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

static / no moving mechanical parts

was has been rotative

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4055789A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4055789A/en)
An energy conserving electrical apparatus for driving a load and recovering otherwise wasted electrical energy utilizes an electric motor with field windings on one or more pole members and one or more rotors. During a first time interval whose duration is determined by motor speed, electric current is supplied to the field windings from a first charged battery, the current flowing through electrical switching circuitry to the field windings of the motor to thereby turn the rotor by establishing a magnetic field, as is well known in the motor art. During a second time interval, the duration of which is also determined by motor speed, the rotor's poles confront the poles of the field winding and the switching circuitry disconnects the first battery from the field windings and connects a second discharged battery to the field windings for charging of the second battery. When the first battery is disconnected, the magnetic field established by the field windings collapses and, as a consequence of Lenz's law, a first current increment is induced in the field windings. This induced current increment, which is opposite in direction to the current which was flowing through the windings and whose stoppage produced the first current increment, is conducted through the switching circuitry to the second battery to charge the battery. Almost simultaneously with the generation of this first current increment, the magnetic field of the turning rotor links the field windings, inducing a second current increment in the coil windings. This second increment flows in the same direction as the first induced increment and is also conducted through the switching circuitry to charge the second battery. At the end of the second time interval, the electrical switching circuitry disconnects the second battery and reconnects the first battery to the field winding to again deliver current to the field winding to drive the rotor. Accordingly, the described first and second increments of current induced in the field windings between bursts of driving current are recovered by the apparatus and used to charge the second battery.[/font][/size]

You reach the target when the coils/device stays COLD,superconduction state !

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 23, 2020, 07:56:01 AM

Too much money was at stake, so faking is less probable.

Nix,

Random numbers are random and we can not predict sequence.

But dividing numbers will give sequences which we can predict,
because the result is always the same.

There is simple way to solve entropy.

2 small numbers divided can give up to 10 numbers before they start to repeat.

22/7 = 3.142857 with 2 small numbers which can be packed into 1 byte,
we wrote 7 numbers.

Which gives me idea.
Irrational numbers.

Pi is holding all combinations in universe never repeating.
Question is how to implement pointer to known sequence inside it?
I mean, for decoding, we dont remember sequences, but initial conditions to calculate pi from
given decimal point for the given length.

For coding we have to have pi calculated for maybe trillion decimals,
and write in table conditions from where cpu will start calculating,
but for decoding cpu just calculates pi from conditions.

So we remember conditions for calculating pi from given decimal point,
for the given length. Resulting in calculating needed sequence of x numbers.

We calculate. We dont remember sequences.

Another example is square root from 2,
same thing.
It holds all possible short and long sequences needed.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on July 23, 2020, 08:02:07 AM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 23, 2020, 07:56:01 AM
Too much money was at stake, so faking is less probable.

Nix,

Random numbers are random and we can not predict sequence.

But dividing numbers will give sequences which we can predict,
because the result is always the same.

There is simple way to solve entropy.

2 small numbers divided can give up to 10 numbers before they start to repeat.

22/7 = 3.142857 with 2 small numbers which can be packed into 1 byte,
we wrote 7 numbers.

Which gives me idea.
Irrational numbers.

Pi is holding all combinations in universe never repeating.
Question is how to implement pointer to known sequence inside it?

Another example is square root from 2,
same thing.
It holds all possible short and long sequences needed.

Are you in the right topic ? ::)

TRANSZENDENZ
e= 2,7....
pi=3,14....
log

Not only Pi(number not confound with Puls) for cycling is in EE important but also e for EE-designer :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=nicholas+Christofilos&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=nicholas+Christofilos&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&ei=iHwZX67JMonolwSlnom4Ag&q=christofilos+effect&oq=christofilos&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQARgAMgQIABATMgQILhATMggIABAFEB4QEzIICAAQBRAeEBMyCAgAEAUQHhATMggIABAFEB4QEzIICAAQBRAeEBMyCAgAEAUQHhATMggIABAFEB4QEzIICAAQBRAeEBM6BggAEA0QHjoHCCEQChCgAToCCAA6AgguOgUILhCTAjoECAAQCjoGCAAQChATOgYIABAeEBNQ3VBYzIQBYJuSAWgBcAB4A4ABigGIAboYkgEEOC4yMZgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXqwAQDAAQE&sclient=psy-ab (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&ei=iHwZX67JMonolwSlnom4Ag&q=christofilos+effect&oq=christofilos&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQARgAMgQIABATMgQILhATMggIABAFEB4QEzIICAAQBRAeEBMyCAgAEAUQHhATMggIABAFEB4QEzIICAAQBRAeEBMyCAgAEAUQHhATMggIABAFEB4QEzIICAAQBRAeEBM6BggAEA0QHjoHCCEQChCgAToCCAA6AgguOgUILhCTAjoECAAQCjoGCAAQChATOgYIABAeEBNQ3VBYzIQBYJuSAWgBcAB4A4ABigGIAboYkgEEOC4yMZgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXqwAQDAAQE&sclient=psy-ab)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=62&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19871119&CC=DE&NR=8711619U1&KC=U1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=62&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19871119&CC=DE&NR=8711619U1&KC=U1)

[0063] A eine Vorrichtung zur Erzeugung von elektromagnetischen Impulsen (EMP) zu schaffen, die die gleichen physikalischen Eigenschaften der elektromagnetischen Impulse (EMP) haben sollen wie die, die nach einer nuklearen Explosion in der oberen | Erdatmosphäre entstehen.

[0064] Diese Aufgabe ist durch die im Kennzeichen des Hauptanspruches angeführten Merkmale gelöst. Die danach erzeugten elektromagnetischen Impulse (EMP) bestehen aus zwei elektrischen Komponenten

[0065] Die erste Komponente bildet den elektrischen Compton-Strom, der nach dem bekannten Compton-Effekt bei nuklearen Explosionen entsteht.
Bei der zweiten, in der Literatur unbekannte Komponente handelt es sich um einen elektrischen Strom bzw. ein elektrisches Feld, das durch die Oszillation eines monopolaren Hybridplasmas entsteht. Beiden Komponenten stellen voneinander unterschiedliche impulsartige Wellen dar, die

[0066] I simultan in Superposition verlaufen. In Gleichung I sind die[0067] zwei Komponenten mathematisch dargestellt:

[0068] EMP = Pc + Pi

[0069] worin

[0070] Pc = Compton-Strom-Komponente

Pi = monopolare Hybridplasma-Strom-Komponente bedeuten.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 23, 2020, 08:16:47 AM

Wrong topic.

Thanks Lanca.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on July 23, 2020, 08:08:21 PM

To continue....

Wouldnt it seem logical if as we add single turns in parallel on the toroid core, that the inductance should increase each time we say, double the number of turns? All in parallel.

The reason I am pondering it is Tesla, as I said earlier, said large inductance, low resistance. So Im going to try it and see.
Imagine if as we add more turns, the resistance goes lower and the inductance goes higher. Not something we are used to.

When we say inductors in parallel decrease the total inductance, that is, if I am not mistaken, individual inductances that are not magnetically affecting each other.
But if all on a closed core, and mutual inductance between windings occurs, then we might have something different than what may be typically calculated as a standard for this exercise.

The more we get the resistance down and the inductance up, then resonance would be a much more useful thing. ;D

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on July 24, 2020, 07:59:32 AM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 22, 2020, 01:22:30 AM
:( :( :(
I've been so very stubborn here for many years and been acting
As a very bad person, i even see someone wants me dead,
Even they push me to go out a here always i kept on comming.
Sorry about that. :(
But to tell you the truth, if you only can see my heart , brain and eyes are
Really in tears currently believe it or not, i considered everyone in here as my brother or friends
Especially the atheist, i don't really know why they can't see God and i can,
Whats wrong really with their eyes or my eyes why? why? why? :( :-\
I kept on inserting and inserting what i believe is truth,
Making always debate on them not that i don't like them but
Simply because i love them all and that is really what is in my heart everyone. :) :'(
Because i know God will hurt them eternally and i don't want that
To happen honestly :( :'(
To Anyone, i am not angry to all of you ok.
There is reason to everything.
Finally i think this is now really my point of no return. :) :'(

@ mags
Thin and thick you are there buddy even though we quarrel manytimes
You are in my heart really :-*

@bob smith
Though i am not responding to you always, you are still there to support.
And i love you for that buddy. :)

Guess thats it?
Covid19 is getting nearer and nearer in my vicinity,
i'm an asthmatic, i don't know if i can survive if i got infected by this virus.
Hope we see in person each other someday.. :D

Finally the secret
None other than Tesla transformer!!! 8)
Do the avalantz its unlimitted controlled by your decision.
Back emf is the one that we can accumulate.

Bye now, hopefully please pray for me. :)
Just do the recursion infinite loop like in turbo c language. 8)

GOODBYE EVERYBODY
GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU

IN DANGER
TEETS ;D

Tito said it is a Tesla coil. Can we go there?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on July 24, 2020, 10:34:34 AM

HI,
@bistander,WhatIsItall my documentations is lost, i am so sorrywilliam barbat's self powered electrical generator patent, thats the only referrence i can remember for now.
Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on July 24, 2020, 10:49:12 AM

FE motor using aire and/or water thats my current project.mechanical version of the same action.
sorry, what is your crrent work?
with my limited knowledge i can guide you in this direction if you want?
luc2010rgrds

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on July 24, 2020, 11:16:12 AM

Quote from: Leely on July 24, 2020, 07:59:32 AM
Tito said it is a Tesla coil. Can we go there?

can we charge a capacitor in no standard way? can we do that?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 01:19:04 PM

If you mentioned that cap can be charged non standard way,
then it probably can.

Want to share?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: bistander on July 24, 2020, 02:34:37 PM

Quote from: luc2010 on July 24, 2020, 10:34:34 AM
HI,
@bistander,WhatIsItall my documentations is lost, i am so sorrywilliam barbat's self powered electrical generator patent, thats the only referrence i can remember for now.
Regards

So you have nothing. Maybe you just remember your dream or fantasy. Before YOU say or imply that our books lie, YOU need to do the legwork and cite specific references or prove that existing, accepted scientific knowledge is wrong. So at a minimum, you could provide a link to that patent and highlight the passage. BTW, thanks for the reply.
Regards,
bi

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on July 24, 2020, 02:56:24 PM

sorry,
in patrick kelly book A166 page you can read about energy conservation law exception! and that magnetic force satisfeis this conditions!!
Incredible,you people listen to anybody except the guy who did the damn work
yes, in the end i know its only me talking about what i have seen in my eyes!!
rgds

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on July 24, 2020, 03:05:32 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 01:19:04 PM
If you mentioned that cap can be charged non standard way,
then it probably can.

Want to share?

you can try it using the mains ( low voltage low frequency)in my case 22o volt ac / 50 hzcharge a cap but dont draw any current?if this works then what about HV and HF input?
be safe please and good luck

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 03:14:14 PM

No, Luc.

You are not the only one.
It is obvious that you know more than you are saying, too obvious.

i am maybe slow, but not stupid.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on July 24, 2020, 03:16:45 PM

Hello Tito,
you like God like myself, it would be great to know your opinians on things
lucbema8@gmail.com
God Bless Bro

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 03:30:05 PM

Luc,

When you analyze somebody words, you never look what they telling you,
but what they are trying to avoid, hide.

Most powerfull deduction of all.

You were on Tesla coil, claiming that it can charge cap, non standard way.
Then you moved to charging cap from wall, and Tesla coil is gone.

What you actually tried to say is that Tesla coil can charge cap,
or some instances of cap.
Anyway , capacitance is involved with Tesla coil.

Do you have anything to add?

Tito wont help you.

I am maybe slow, but not stupid.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 03:37:14 PM

Silence in most of the cases means yes.

So, think fast!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 03:54:07 PM

So, Luc,

what are saying, that Tito did not lie at the end.

The device can charge cap or cap coil, in form of HV Tesla coil?

Non standard way.

Am I on right way?

Silence?

Tito can lose his precious because of you and your quick tongue?

Will he help you or damn you because you give him up?

Hey Tito, justice has many faces.
What it will worth your precious, now when Luc pointed the things?

You still mighty and full of yourself?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 04:21:04 PM

Tito,

Your friend Luc sold you out.

Are you angry?

God bless you both!

I was waiting for you.

You can not go against intelligence without intelligence.
You must have some.

How is it feels now?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on July 24, 2020, 04:24:19 PM

Quote from: luc2010 on July 24, 2020, 11:16:12 AM
can we charge a capacitor in no standard way? can we do that?

But a Tesla coil can charge a cap, can't it?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 04:30:22 PM

The power of deduction.

If Tesla has bifilar secondary, it is a cap.

And primary is just an inductor in AC. You know what that means.

There is reason why Ruslan and company called inductor,
while it was wound over bifilar secondary.
It has no induction influence on cap, while it charging it.

Or, cap has no magnetic field to oppose primary inductor.

A way to take away power from inductor. AC resonant inducor.

Without affecting resonance.

Tito was clear on that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on July 24, 2020, 04:35:02 PM

Hi WhatIsIt,SlowDown and eazy
one must learn the basics of OU!okthats why i recommand trying the simple cap charging setup from the wall. we should try this first.
we all know how to build tesla coils but why he build them?

for the moment i am stuck with my iphon icloud lock, to date it seems no solutions possible?
rgds

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 04:40:06 PM

Quote from: luc2010 on July 24, 2020, 04:35:02 PM
Hi WhatIsIt,SlowDown and eazy
one must learn the basics of OU!okthats why i recommand trying the simple cap charging setup from the wall. we should try this first.
we all know how to build tesla coils but why he build them?

for the moment i am stuck with my iphon icloud lock, to date it seems no solutions possible?
rgds

Why did you than claim it was Tesla system.?

And you waited, thinking what to answer, little bit too long.

Wow, I slowed down.

Hey Tito, good work.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 04:43:45 PM

You already gave me solution,

dont bother with details.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: luc2010 on July 24, 2020, 04:46:54 PM

Quote from: Leely on July 24, 2020, 04:24:19 PM
But a Tesla coil can charge a cap, can't it?

yes, we can charge a cap using the standard way, but put that aside. any other ways?i must warn you dont ever play with tesla coils. start from low voltage and low frequeny firstsafety first please

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 04:47:25 PM

You can take your friend Tito and triangle,

holding your hands on Bahamas,

from where you can not see India and Africa.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 04:50:17 PM

Quote from: luc2010 on July 24, 2020, 04:46:54 PM
yes, we can charge a cap using the standard way, but put that aside. any other ways?i must warn you dont ever play with tesla coils. start from low voltage and low frequeny firstsafety first please

Yea,

Nice try.

Tito teach you how to manage mistakes?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 04:53:09 PM

You are really worried for my health?

Thank you!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 05:06:03 PM

Bump,

too much time, lie detector!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 05:19:21 PM

Hey Tito,

Time to cry.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on July 24, 2020, 06:10:56 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 05:19:21 PM
Hey Tito,

Time to cry.

Dude, why sooo many little unrelated posts? Take the whole page just about and not really any subject matter.. Just put what you have to say in 1 post, not 10 posts off topic.

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on July 24, 2020, 06:15:12 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on July 23, 2020, 08:08:21 PM
To continue....

Wouldnt it seem logical if as we add single turns in parallel on the toroid core, that the inductance should increase each time we say, double the number of turns? All in parallel.

The reason I am pondering it is Tesla, as I said earlier, said large inductance, low resistance. So Im going to try it and see.
Imagine if as we add more turns, the resistance goes lower and the inductance goes higher. Not something we are used to.

When we say inductors in parallel decrease the total inductance, that is, if I am not mistaken, individual inductances that are not magnetically affecting each other.
But if all on a closed core, and mutual inductance between windings occurs, then we might have something different than what may be typically calculated as a standard for this exercise.

The more we get the resistance down and the inductance up, then resonance would be a much more useful thing. ;D

Mags

If we run an inductor calculator online, if we make it 1 turn, and put in a length and radius, and then increase the length and radius, the inductance increases. Meaning the more copper(more parallel turns), more inductance.
Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 07:27:53 PM

Quote from: Magluvin on July 24, 2020, 06:10:56 PM
Dude, why sooo many little unrelated posts? Take the whole page just about and not really any subject matter.. Just put what you have to say in 1 post, not 10 posts off topic.

Mags

There is a reason why Kapanadze primary pillar in Tourkey has double the size
than secondary.
It has double windings.

OK Mags, In future I wont post so many posts.
So you can read it.
Do you need any other formating for you to be easier?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 07:31:37 PM

Red carpet or flowers?

Maybe?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: triangle on July 25, 2020, 09:07:12 AM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 24, 2020, 07:31:37 PM
Red carpet or flowers?

Maybe?

You like to bully people isntit, you was also at school like that? When you try to impress you actually making everyone against you. Stop bullying, this forum is not made for such cind!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 25, 2020, 03:32:25 PM

Quote from: triangle on July 25, 2020, 09:07:12 AM
You like to bully people isntit, you was also at school like that? When you try to impress you actually making everyone against you. Stop bullying, this forum is not made for such cind!

I did not bully members.

Just you, Tito and his friend.
And it was intentionaly, with help of some other members.

Rattle the basket, and it worked.

Someone always have big mouth,
it was only matter of time.

Go and read my posts, never attacked any of members.
It was planned.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: triangle on July 25, 2020, 03:46:00 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 25, 2020, 03:32:25 PM
I did not bully members.

Just you, Tito and his friend.
And it was intentionaly, with help of some other members.

Rattle the basket, and it worked.

Someone always have big mouth,
it was only matter of time.

Go and read my posts, never attacked any of members.
It was planned.

I dont feeled bullied, So your plan didnt worked, im far above of such childish behaviour, im glad you admit you bullying members, its noted!

Besides, your behaviour is visible in above posts that you bully members with off topic nonsens.

Now the moderators can deside how to handle bulliers like you in this forum!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 25, 2020, 04:14:13 PM

Quote from: triangle on July 25, 2020, 03:46:00 PM
I dont feeled bullied, So your plan didnt worked, im far above of such childish behaviour, im glad you admit you bullying members, its noted!

Besides, your behaviour is visible in above posts that you bully members with off topic nonsens.

Now the moderators can deside how to handle bulliers like you in this forum!

If you dont feel bullied, why complain?

You see, there is an odd thing.

When Chris left forum you appeared.
You have very similar language to his.

When Tito left, his friend appear, all of you young members.
Similar talk and other things.

Maybe it is nothing. Maybe?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: triangle on July 26, 2020, 02:24:08 AM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 25, 2020, 04:14:13 PM
If you dont feel bullied, why complain?

You see, there is an odd thing.

When Chris left forum you appeared.
You have very similar language to his.

When Tito left, his friend appear, all of you young members.
Similar talk and other things.

Maybe it is nothing. Maybe?

I start enjoying reading your messages :D from wat planet did you tell you came from?

Besides this, i guess you are 15 correct? im triple your age, dont confuse me with your school friends!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on July 26, 2020, 08:24:57 AM

Triangle

I am not sure about "plans"...however the mission statement here is all about open source for a better world....and those who need this the most have no money or even internet connections and yes many are dying as I type this for lack of this technology ! [6 million so far this year ?? 100 children per day starve to death in Tito's country ATM
so soliciting money [not sure what you meant by "pool" ??

For clarity there have always been angel donors among us...nothing to do with religion.. just people you pass everyday on the street who would help a person in need.

This is the "pool" and who we would go to for funding an open source FE device ...no strings attached [except open source].

This resource has never had a chance to show the community ...or world what it can do....all attempts prior were errors in measurement or sometimes tricksters trying to play games [conmen]

The "pool" has huge resources for funding and vetting tricksters...[smart folks who know how to verify a device

whats your number for sharing open source ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: triangle on July 26, 2020, 08:52:38 AM

Quote from: ramset on July 26, 2020, 08:24:57 AM
Triangle

I am not sure about "plans"...however the mission statement here is all about open source for a better world....and those who need this the most have no money or even internet connections and yes many are dying as I type this for lack of this technology ! [6 million so far this year ?? 100 children per day starve to death in Tito's country ATM
so soliciting money [not sure what you meant by "pool" ??

For clarity there have always been angel donors among us...nothing to do with religion.. just people you pass everyday on the street who would help a person in need.

This is the "pool" and who we would go to for funding an open source FE device ...no strings attached.this resource has never had a chance to show the community ...or world what it can do.all attempts prior were errors in measurement or sometimes tricksters trying to play games [conmen]
the "pool" has huge resources for tricksters...[smart folks who know how to verify a device

whats your number for sharing open source ?

You are very melodramic. If you want to safe the world then go aheaad, there is War go to the field to stop it. There is water shortage, go dig and seaarch for waaater, there is no electricity, buy solar or windmillsand help the world.

Dont Demand to do the things in the way you want to see it!

You sound like someone that always rely on others, eating from there table without any taaughts or input from yourself.

Drop some reference showing what you did for the world besides writing here???

Looking forward to it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on July 26, 2020, 09:12:41 AM

Triangle

quote
You are very melodramic. If you want to safe the world then go aheaad, there is War go to the field to stop it. There is water shortage, go dig and seaarch for waaater, there is no electricity, buy solar or windmillsand help the world.

Dont Demand to do the things in the way you want to see it!

You sound like someone that always rely on others, eating from there table without any taaughts or input from yourself.

Drop some reference showing what you did for the world besides writing here???

Looking forward to it. end quote

Melodramatic is a word that speaks volumes in this context [the needs of the many] and written from the comfort of "having" ..." and everything is fine here !!"

Trying to light a fire around me to take the heat off of you is the game of a child...

I am not the one claiming FE for sale in an open source research forum filled with persons who toil for decades in search of such..
and yes the persons who would donate require this tech go to benefit all ..and the people who connect with that resource have decades of service to the planet ...and I am a servant to their cause
YOUR cause and your children's and mine too..

written here by another of the same opinion below [our host Stefan
an international open source Free Energy research forum

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: triangle on July 26, 2020, 10:11:23 AM

Quote from: ramset on July 26, 2020, 09:12:41 AM
Triangle

quote
You are very melodramic. If you want to safe the world then go aheaad, there is War go to the field to stop it. There is water shortage, go dig and seaarch for waaater, there is no electricity, buy solar or windmillsand help the world.

Dont Demand to do the things in the way you want to see it!

You sound like someone that always rely on others, eating from there table without any taaughts or input from yourself.

Drop some reference showing what you did for the world besides writing here???

Looking forward to it. end quote

Melodramatic is a word that speaks volumes in this context [the needs of the many] and written from the comfort of "having" ..." and everything is fine here !!"

Trying to light a fire around me to take the heat off of you is the game of a child...

I am not the one claiming FE for sale in an open source research forum filled with persons who toil for decades in search of such..
and yes the persons who would donate require this tech go to benefit all ..and the people who connect with that resource have decades of service to the planet ...and I am a servant to their cause
YOUR cause and your children's and mine too..

written here by another of the same opinion below [our host Stefan
an international open source Free Energy research forum

I dont mind your taughts what is and what not.

So please dont change the subject.

Please share ereference what you have done for the world!

This forum is a discussion forum and open source.

Let us not go off Topic.

In order to get things shared, show reference what you did for the world,

I decide what i want, not on your command or demand

Again if you looked over it, show reference what you did for the world, if you can not share then mind your own business please, and come with something that really can help the world instead of putting energy towards others.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: partzman on July 26, 2020, 12:17:45 PM

Quote from: triangle on July 26, 2020, 10:11:23 AM

I dont mind your taughts what is and what not.

So please dont change the subject.

Please share ereference what you have done for the world!

This forum is a discussion forum and open source.

Let us not go off Topic.

In order to get things shared, show reference what you did for the world,

I decide what i want, not on your command or demand

Again if you looked over it, show reference what you did for the world, if you can not share then mind your own business please, and come with something that really can help the world instead of putting energy towards others.

I think you are missing the point that Ramset is trying to make. As you state above this is a forum for open source. But you are using this forum as a classified ad for selling your device and tech.

I'm not sure but I don't think that qualifies as open source!

Regards,
Pm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: triangle on July 26, 2020, 01:24:58 PM

Quote from: partzman on July 26, 2020, 12:17:45 PM
I think you are missing the point that Ramset is trying to make. As you state above this is a forum for open source. But you are using this forum as a classified ad for selling your device and tech.

I'm not sure but I don't think that qualifies as open source!

Regards,
Pm

With all respect, could you please help me where i did state that i want to Sell the device? Or do you assume with what i wrote that i want to sell the tech and device or in any words that I use this forum to find investors.

Please Clarify so that i also understand!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 26, 2020, 01:34:15 PM

Chet is doing damn good job,

and he is doing it right now, while we speak,

for everyone and you, included.

He has motives, you will never understand.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: triangle on July 26, 2020, 02:00:57 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 26, 2020, 01:34:15 PM
Chet is doing damn good job,

and he is doing it right now, while we speak,

for everyone and you, included.

He has motives, you will never understand.

:)

That might be, i didnt said anything, I just waiting for ramset giving references that he helping the world!

In your case WhatIsit, you stating in another topic that the use of its algorithm of Jan Sloot is very simple we waiting for you to crack it!

In case of Partzmen I still waiting for his feedback where i stating that I am selling this device and that i use this forum for advertising!

Before replying by you all please clarify or answer the unanswered questions please, as now i am turning the mirrors back to you guys!

Thank you in advance!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: partzman on July 26, 2020, 02:48:16 PM

Quote from: triangle on July 26, 2020, 01:24:58 PM
With all respect, could you please help me where i did state that i want to Sell the device? Or do you assume with what i wrote that i want to sell the tech and device or in any words that I use this forum to find investors.

Please Clarify so that i also understand!

Is this not your post?

"Hello readers,

I am a hudge fan of free energy or any related topic in regards to this topic.
I have tried and failed with multiple projects troughout my life (42) from the Netherlands.

I worked lately on a new device, i tried everything and I dont know what i did but it worked, yes this is no hoax in any kind, it break certain laws that not allowing such thing happen, I still dont know what happened it is still working without external resources. I am affraid to tell that I accidently created a new typ of powersource, a clean one what definetely would give me the nobel prize.

Please not ask me to share it here, I wont share it, neither how it work or what type of materials are used.

I know overunity is big, and I know there is someone out there that has connections that would love to bring this in to the market.

If someone is interested to bring it to the man that has the capability to distribute this clean energy be my gast.

Please dont hesitate to contact me, I only answer to the once I feel comfortable with.

Once again, this is no hoax in any cind, and geniunly looking for someone that can support this invention.

Wish you all the best and health in this difficult period.

Kind Regards,"

Regards,
Pm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: triangle on July 26, 2020, 02:55:35 PM

Quote from: partzman on July 26, 2020, 02:48:16 PM
Is this not your post?

Please state exactly where i mentioned that I want to sell the device?? Bringing it together with me in to the market and selling the device/technik here are 2 different things.

So instead in quoting my full description, please state where did i mention that i advertise or want to sell the technik/device here!

Looking forwad to your reply!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 26, 2020, 03:02:08 PM

Quote from: triangle on July 26, 2020, 02:55:35 PM
Please state exactly where i mentioned that I want to sell the device?? Bringing it together with me in to the market and selling thebdevice here are 2 different things.

So instead in quoting my full description, please state where did i mention that i advertise or want to sell the technik/device here!

Lookimg forwad to your reply!

And what exactly people do on market?

Exchange goods for free?

Dont tell that you need investor, and then go to market,
so you could give your tech for free.

It is easier for you to post where you did not mention
selling or keeping tech for yourself.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: triangle on July 26, 2020, 03:06:35 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 26, 2020, 03:02:08 PM
And what exactly people do on market?

Exchange goods for free?

Dont tell that you need investor, and then go to market,
so you could give your tech for free.

It is easier for you to post where you did not mention
selling or keeping tech for yourself.

First of all I do what i want with my invention, second dont put words in my mouth

Third and most important one, Dont Change the subject the Jan Sloot Algorithm is in your view Very Simple, this question is pending.

Instead of jumping around and avoiding your statement please answer it accordingly, you showing a childish behaviour, trowing words in the air and not accomplishing them.

Where is the Jan Sloot Algorithm if it is Very Simple (Your Words)!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 26, 2020, 03:10:54 PM

There are lots of good researchers here.

Contact them, give it for free, they wont steal it from you,
you can develop it together.
If there is more of you , less chance you will be killed,
and more chance that device will hit the market so we all can use it.

It is not goal to leave you without money.
Goal is that device actually see market, and not stay locked in a vault.

I need that I can buy device on marker.
I will pay for it.

But if you all get killed, or device ends up in somebody safe,
just for you to make money?
That is wrong!

Hope you understand now!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 26, 2020, 03:17:07 PM

Jan Sloot algorithm died with Jan Sloot.

Where is it I dont know?

Today I am talking only with you, I dont jumping around.

Endless compression is not free energy.
You are on free energy forum.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: triangle on July 26, 2020, 03:22:10 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 26, 2020, 03:10:54 PM
There are lots of good researchers here.

Contact them, give it for free, they wont steal it from you,
you can develop it together.
If there is more of you , less chance you will be killed,
and more chance that device will hit the market so we all can use it.

It is not goal to leave you without money.
Goal is that device actually see market, and not stay locked in a vault.

I need that I can buy device on marker.
I will pay for it.

But if you all get killed, or device ends up in somebody safe,
just for you to make money?
That is wrong!

Hope you understand now!

Once Again, dont Avoid your statement.

Jan Sloots Algorithm is in your words Very Simple!

Please tell us more! As you found the very simple solution to have it cracked!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on July 26, 2020, 03:27:20 PM

Where Faraday laws of induction say about the conversion of energy into electric energy ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 26, 2020, 03:34:33 PM

You are the last person in this world
that I will tell anything, triangle.

Others, yes.

My statement is, I cracked Sloot algorithm, yes.
Is it same as his, I dont know.

So my statement now is I cracked endless compression algorithm,
same as before.

I will choose with whom I will share, and how things will go.
But I will.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: triangle on July 26, 2020, 03:46:44 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 26, 2020, 03:34:33 PM
You are the last person in this world
that I will tell anything, triangle.

Others, yes.

My statement is, I cracked Sloot algorithm, yes.
Is it same as his, I dont know.

So my statement now is I cracked endless compression algorithm,
same as before.

I will choose with whom I will share, and how things will go.
But I will.

Perfect, so stop asking me the same!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 26, 2020, 04:30:46 PM

OK,

But it is good way to keep you talking,
I needed you to post so I can analyze it.

Are you sure that you dont know Chris?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: triangle on July 26, 2020, 05:09:23 PM

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 26, 2020, 04:30:46 PM
OK,

But it is good way to keep you talking,
I needed you to post so I can analyze it.

Are you sure that you dont know Chris?

Good luck with that my child!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on July 28, 2020, 02:06:45 AM

Triangle

QuoteI dont mind your taughts what is and what not.
So please dont change the subject.
Please share ereference what you have done for the world!
This forum is a discussion forum and open source.
Let us not go off Topic.

Off topic... I was not aware that any here were ever on it?.

One could conclude, given the narrative, that the "topic" would seem to be the last thing on anyone's mind. However it begs the question, if anyone was on topic and sharing real knowledge concerning FE then I suspect some progress would be made however none would seem to be present. Thus in my opinion the true motive by some must be to inhibit progress and turn everything into a proverbial pissing contest, if you will. Not that I do not find all this entertaining in the same way I find a dog shitting on a carpet somewhat entertaining... so long as the carpet is not mine.

Behold the spectacle, the Colosseum, where primates pummel and bloody there own kind in sport for the crowd. All hail the crowd, all hail the mob, for there is righteousness in numbers...

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on July 28, 2020, 09:03:44 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on July 21, 2020, 04:51:57 AM
How to treat theoretical defined terms and numbers !?

Force,Energy,Power
Here in internal combustion engine/electric drive comparison

When 136 ic hp are equivalent 12,5 KW electric motor

http://www.evalbum.com/motor (http://www.evalbum.com/motor)
Gas engines are rated at their peak hp, electric motors are rated at their continuous hp. The peak hp of an electric motor is usually 8 to 10 times its continuous rating.

and instead a. railway car 100 to 140 ic hp George Constantinescu changed to 10 ic hp + torque converter/ amplifier

b. street car 45 hp to 10 hp + torque converter/amplifier

a "peoples car " or in German : VOLKSWAGEN
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Constantinescu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Constantinescu)
http://www.rexresearch.com/constantinesco2/constantinesco.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/constantinesco2/constantinesco.htm)
http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/1constran.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/1constran.htm)

His idea was to produce a low cost one hundred guinea "peoples' car'' which would travel 100 miles on one gallon of petrol at the most commonly used road speeds of 30 to 40 miles per hour.

George first successfully tested a Torque Converter in a car in May l 923, using an experimental model that had been built only for bench tests. He obtained an old Sheffield Simplex chassis and replaced the big 45 hp engine with a 10 hp "light car'' Singer engine, and built a platform on the chassis. This car was driven around the outskirts of London loaded with 10 people, including the inventor at the wheel, fig. 21, and later towed a lorry up a steep hill. As a further demonstration of the capabilities of the car, six inch wooden blocks were placed in front of the wheels. When the accelerator was depressed the car climbed over the blocks smoothly and without hesitation, to the astonishment of the bystanders. This test was merely to demonstrate the possibilities of the Torque Converter, because even a 10 hp engine was much larger than necessary for the production car envisaged.

http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/fig25.jpg (http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/fig25.jpg)

http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/fig26.jpg (http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/fig26.jpg)

Testing, development and manufacture was carried out at the former Malaxa Ironworks of Bucharest during the 1930s. Initially, successful tests were carried out with a 10 hp engine and converter mounted in a 10 tonne railcar. These results were very encouraging considering that similar cars in other countries were using 100 to 140 hp engines. The next stage was the establishment of production lines and special machine tools for the building of 30 tonne passenger railcars with 60 seats. These were propelled by two engines of 20 hp each mounted under the chassis. These railcars ran without trouble at about 40 mph, a performance which appeared to be quite suitable for conditions in Romania at the time. Looking to the future more power and faster speeds would be required on main lines as well as branch lines to meet the needs of rapidly growing industry and infrastructure in all countries. Bearing this in mind, George made a survey of requirements and solutions proposed in several other countries, including Germany, Britain and the United States.

how many rated KW need the electric motor coupled with the G.C. torque converter/amplifier ?

a. ( 10 hp/136 hp) x 12,5 KW : ?

b. ( 10 hp/ 45 hp) x 12,5 KW : ?

LESS THAN a. 1 KW ELECTRIC MOTOR and

b. 2,8 KW ELECTRIC MOTOR !

( by pure calculation !)

The electric consume by high permanent magnets torque motor ?

An example : 2,8 KW nominal / 0,7 ( for 70% electro magnet motor efficiency) ~ 4 KWh consume per hour

4 KWh x 0,3 ( Ogino Sanshiro basic factor electric/permanent magnet motor 70% savings) ~ 1,2 KWh per hour

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=2002175580A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20021128&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=2002175580A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20021128&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

[0059] As a result of comparison between the structure according to the present invention and the structure as a comparison example comprising the electromagnet element 17 and the attraction member 57 without the provision of the permanent magnet element 19, it has been found that the electrical energy (W) required for the structure of the present invention is less than one-third through one-fourth of that which is required for the comparison example having no permanent magnet element 19 when the attractive force of each of the working surfaces is the same between the two.

[0060] Further, when we suppose a reluctance motor to which the structure of the above-described comparison example is applied, the energy conversion efficiency thereof will be about 30%. However, if a reluctance motor utilizing the structure of the present invention requires an electrical energy of less than 30% as compared to the structure of the comparison example, an output exceeding the electrical input can be estimated and this fact shows that the energy of the permanent magnet element is being converted into a dynamic energy corresponding thereto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X58oEF1dBqg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X58oEF1dBqg) https://web.archive.org/web/20090925065936/http://www.loremo.com/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20090925065936/http://www.loremo.com/)

When the Loremo concept car was calculated with a 20 hp ic engine ( eco version ),how many electric motor KWs will be need with G.C. torque converter coupling ?

When 45 hp ic engine was changed to 10 hp ic engine then 20 hp would become changed to 4,5 hp ic engine !
4,5 hp ic engine equates ? KW permanent magnet torque electric motor ?

When we take the austinev.org comparison
peak to peak 136 hp ic ~ 12,5 KW electric

(4,5 hp /136 hp ) x 12,5 KW
~ 0,42 KW Loremo electric drive + G.C. torque converter / amplifier

When we see the Loremo we see the VW XL1 and the Amory Lovins HYPERCAR

https://youtu.be/ZiA4cpJb0uw (https://youtu.be/ZiA4cpJb0uw)

0:56 " ..... only 0,3% ..... "

when 6 liter gasoline per 100 Kilometers equates 60 000 Wh then represents 0,3% : 180 Wh per 100 Kilometers

easy to renew the portable power storage during the drive : brake recuperation ,solar,......

20 hp ic were from these " bestsellers" the engines their power : Morris Mini,2CV,Fiat 500

Car drive energy renewable source :

With 45% efficiency 1 sqm photo-thermo voltaic energy conversion gives by full sunshine 600 Wh !
Reference : Sono- motor and Novasolix
https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2018/11/23/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-a-90-efficient-solar-panel/ (https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2018/11/23/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-a-90-efficient-solar-panel/)

Force,Power,Energy : N.Tesla and Toribio Bellocq and George Constantinescu : sonic energy

In the 24/365 cities and their suburbs street and highways controled future the "autonomous car,driver-free" does not need more rated power ,the G.Constantinescu car concept average street velocity equates nearly 100% the german traffic driver average velocity : 56 Km-h or 35 (land) miles per hour

His idea ( G.C.)was to produce a low cost one hundred guinea "peoples' car'' which would travel 100 miles on one gallon of petrol at the most commonly used road speeds of 30 to 40 miles per hour.

Average car velocity in german innercities : +- 11 up to 14 miles per hour !
https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/994676/umfrage/innerstaedtische-durchschnittsgeschwindigkeit-im-autoverkehr-in-deutschen-staedten/ (https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/994676/umfrage/innerstaedtische-durchschnittsgeschwindigkeit-im-autoverkehr-in-deutschen-staedten/)

https://www.adac.de/_mmm/pdf/statistik_mobilitaet_in_deutschland_0111_46603.pdf (https://www.adac.de/_mmm/pdf/statistik_mobilitaet_in_deutschland_0111_46603.pdf)

page 11 : 42,2 Km per hour car "fast" velocity ! 26,2 mph !

Probably taking an old "Lotus Elise" https://auto.howstuffworks.com/lotus-elise3.htm (https://auto.howstuffworks.com/lotus-elise3.htm) ,
like Tesla Motor Inc. did : Lotus Elise chassis = Tesla Roadster chassis,
taking away the conventional engine parts and introduce the 5 KW permanent magnet motor and G.C. torque converter

Comparison : G.Constantinescu electric motor + torque converter with

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1)

instead 50 hp engine Porquer differential + 4 x 500 W electric motors

G.Constantinesu (10/45) x 50 = 11,2 hp ic engine + torque converter

(11,2/8) ic to electric = 1,4 KW electric motor + torque converter

BTW: Jesus has a plan ? Yes,clearly !

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Jorge_Jesus.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Jorge_Jesus.jpg)
After Flamengo de Rio de Janeiro he will be the new coach from Benfica Lisbon ! ::) ;) ;D

Both sites have :
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Cristo_Redentor_-_Rio_de_Janeiro%2C_Brasil.jpg/1200px-Cristo_Redentor_-_Rio_de_Janeiro%2C_Brasil.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Cristo_Redentor_-_Rio_de_Janeiro%2C_Brasil.jpg/1200px-Cristo_Redentor_-_Rio_de_Janeiro%2C_Brasil.jpg)

https://lissabon.sehenswuerdigkeiten-online.de/sehenswuerdigkeiten/img/crisrei2m.jpg (https://lissabon.sehenswuerdigkeiten-online.de/sehenswuerdigkeiten/img/crisrei2m.jpg)

1988 : Munich,M.A.N. Citybus 200 hp Diesel-gasoil - engine drive
Magnet-Motor ,Starnberg ( an A.E.G. - subcompany) introduced a new drive concept :
Electric flywheel + 20 hp gasoil-engine conversion

When an 136 hp internal combustion engine equates a 12,5 KW nominal electric motor drive :

Electric flywheel + ? KW nominal electric motor drive ?

( 12,5/136) x 20 KW gasoil engine ~ 1,84 KW e-motor ?
Catalan electric drive,consume ?

Inventor : Kurt Fritzsche DE4332378
What has to be the nominal electric power rating for the gasoline engine change to electric ?

When we work with "energy or power or work or force" numbers we have to differ between theoretical comparison
related Watt-peak and Watt-nominal and Watt-average !
Between "rotating KW" and " linear KW",between "DC KW and AC KW" !

When we study the suburban and innercity traffic velocities in Europe = ≤ 30 miles per hour and introduce the " autonomous = driver-free traffic" in future we can calculate with 1 KW nominal electric drive and 1 Wh per Kilometer electricity consume !
This easy recaptureable by solartect/or photovoltaic dots coating , brake energy recuperation or in situ battery generator set !

The Tesla Motor car with 68 Wh per Kilometer consume actually far away from future standart !
The battery standart : Lithium(carbon)-Titan with 10000 recharge cycles for the future enough !
Optimization : to 500 Wh per Kg : AMPCERA

When the 4x 500 Watt electric motors gear drive from the french inventor Michel Porquer equates a 50 hp internal combustion engine car drive and the german low resistance car Loremo was planned with a 20 hp ic engine then
for an electric Loremo 20/50 = 0,4 the Porquer rating seems enough !

1 KW electric nominal power !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on August 03, 2020, 04:30:09 AM

Hi Tito
I hope you are fine :)

You have many times stated that a zener diode is necessary in your setups as for a control. I understand that we need it across the output capacitor to prevent it from overcharging. Do you find it a good idea to add a zener diode in series with the kicker coil's diode so to prevent any current flow from battery to the output capacitor?

Regards
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Magluvin on August 03, 2020, 09:20:16 PM

Quote from: Jeg on August 03, 2020, 04:30:09 AM
Hi Tito
I hope you are fine :)

You have many times stated that a zener diode is necessary in your setups as for a control. I understand that we need it across the output capacitor to prevent it from overcharging. Do you find it a good idea to add a zener diode in series with the kicker coil's diode so to prevent any current flow from battery to the output capacitor?

Regards
Jeg

Not sure he meant it for that. Never really gave the reason for use as i remember, though I may have missed it. I always thought 1 of 2 things. Either used to not let the cap go below a determined voltage(cutoff)("never kill the dipole"), or used as a sort of solid state spark gap of sorts, low voltage. Told me once in a pm that they can handled a lot of current. In his very first diagram of his circuit that was suppose to be the way of Steven Mark, he stated not to forget the zener diode, of which I imagine it is the one next to the resistor with the relay contacts.

If it were to not let the cap go above a predetermined voltage, Id think it to be a very high voltage zener than what we are used to, but he said at least 3v zener, so. He uses the term avalanche a lot. maybe these are what he is implying...

http://www.highvoltageconnection.com/articles/avalanche-diodes.htm (http://www.highvoltageconnection.com/articles/avalanche-diodes.htm)

Mags

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on August 04, 2020, 04:16:12 AM

Quote from: Magluvin on August 03, 2020, 09:20:16 PM

If it were to not let the cap go above a predetermined voltage, Id think it to be a very high voltage zener than what we are used to, but he said at least 3v zener, so. He uses the term avalanche a lot. maybe these are what he is implying...

Hi Mags
By thinking simple, if i were to charge (with kickback spikes) two caps at the source voltage so to connect them in series and return some energy back to the source then a zener is perfect for that. Tito repeated many times that zener is for control, or else...boom! I just wonder if he also tried a zener so to block the source current from flowing in to the output caps. By this, only the kickback voltage passes and nothing else.

Regards
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on August 04, 2020, 12:24:25 PM

Mags

QuoteNot sure he meant it for that. Never really gave the reason for use as i remember, though I may have missed it. I always thought 1 of 2 things. Either used to not let the cap go below a determined voltage(cutoff)("never kill the dipole"), or used as a sort of solid state spark gap of sorts, low voltage. Told me once in a pm that they can handled a lot of current. In his very first diagram of his circuit that was suppose to be the way of Steven Mark, he stated not to forget the zener diode, of which I imagine it is the one next to the resistor with the relay contacts.

It's kind of funny that everyone including most supposed experts never could figure out the diode paradox. You see in many FE devices we see diodes which appear to be connected backwards so of course most assume the builder is incompetent. Some like myself routinely use diodes connected back to back and most assume it's a mistake. However nothing could be further from the truth and it is based on expertise not incompetence.

Now suppose we want a low voltage input to produce a HV output. We could use a transformer or coil with a very long conductor or we could use a few turns of wire, the inductive discharge and a reversed diode to ensure only HV may pass. The reverse theshold or break down voltage of the diode now becomes a HV regulator of sorts. If we only want HV to pass and not reverse then we use two diodes connected back to back.

In one case we can stagger the break down theshold to produce a HV regulator/oscillator. Here we use two diodes back to back with different break down voltages. We use one as a high voltage regulator and the other as a negative resistance oscillator. In another case we can use one reversed diode as a HV regulator and a neon bulb like a LV NE2 and a capacitor as a reverse current oscillator section. In another case we can use a reversed diode/capacitor on the front end as a current limiter/oscillator which only allows HV impulses to pass at a given frequency or period. We are limited only by our imagination and what I just explained was not learned from a book but experience at the bench.

In fact we can replace any number of inefficient transformer/converter or LC sections with a few simple components to achieve the same result. What seems to throw many for a loop is that they have no imagination and know only what they were taught. They are not inventors nor are they experimenters who are always finding new and more creative ways of doing things.

So the next time people see any component which seems out of place they should question it rather than dismiss it, question everything... that is the way.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on August 05, 2020, 11:13:40 AM

To expand on my last post, why add a reversed diode or back to back diodes to a circuit?.

Adding this new component relates to what energy is, all energy is kinetic on every level and the more motion something has the more energy it has. Thus at the very least we are trying to conserve the motion of something and best case increase it's motion. So instead of forcing a large current down a conductor which then produces secondary forces such as self-induction and resistance which inhibit it's motion we should break up the current into smaller pieces. Instead of using a low voltage high current we transform the current into high voltage impulses.

So we add back to back diodes to a coil output, we charge the coil with a current then discharge the coil through the diodes which only allows high voltage impulses to pass and not reverse. In this way we have filtered the output by only allowing the most efficient form of energy to pass. We do this because a low voltage DC current invokes great losses where a high voltage impulse does not.

If we add a capacitor across the coil linked to the output the output will oscillate. The coil discharges charging the capacitor and when the voltage exceeds the diode breakdown voltage an impulse passes partially discharging the capacitor. Then the capacitor recharges, the voltage rises again, the threshold is exceeded and another impulse is produced. In this way we can produce high voltage impulses with no mosfet's, transistor's or external electronic oscillators.

So why do we want high voltage impulses?. First, the HV impulses have almost no losses as they move along a conductor and second the impulses can induce forces in other conductors where a continuous current cannot. In this respect we are concerned with energy, the more something or the things around it move the more energy they have, all energy is motion on every level.

Understand, the form of energy we generally use as low voltage continuous currents is the least efficient method of transferring or utilizing energy. Nature does not use them because it wouldn't work, little energy would move anywhere and nothing would happen. So we should comprehend and copy nature if we want better results, different results than we normally get. As Tesla said, HV impulses are the future not AC or DC but high voltage impulses.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Jeg on August 05, 2020, 12:37:50 PM

Onepower
The most comprehensive posts i have read since a lot time.

Much appreciated
Jeg

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on August 05, 2020, 02:16:05 PM

maybe this might come in handy

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: elanimus on August 05, 2020, 05:16:51 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 21, 2020, 12:18:01 AM

WHAT!!!
You don't know the great story plan of Jesus also. See you
Don't read the Bible also. Oh boy
I'm tired.
What's wrong with me, somebody help me
Please. :-\

Hi Tito

Don't let all the brainwashed atheists disturb your peace. From now on, i will help with your arguments with them so that you continue your free energy researches in peace.

But anyway, most of the argument is caused by lack of philosophical inquiry by the so-called atheists. They were not properly taught about fundamental spiritual truths, they become confused in the interpretations of the bible(or other religion) and step away from it only to be entangled in a modern mindless religion far worse than ancient ones. God is simply the source, the unlimited, the arche, the holy spirit(ratio), the logos, the manifestation, the unknown etc.. world's religion just tell these things in stories and symbolos that are imo better than **godless** mainstream science and philosophy.

Keep up the great work truth seekers!
I will be here watching and will soon join your divine pursuit fully :)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on August 06, 2020, 04:24:14 PM

Elanimus

QuoteDon't let all the brainwashed atheists disturb your peace. From now on, i will help with your arguments with them so that you continue your free energy researches in peace.

Brainwashed you say?, the Atheists don't believe in imaginary things they cannot prove and have never seen. In fact almost all of the most vile, cruel and destructing things mankind has inflicted upon others was done in the name of theism. There is also the fact you have no argument because you have no proof to substantiate your claim. In my opinion were looking for the truth not more baseless claims.

I edited my post because it was off topic.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on August 07, 2020, 07:00:55 AM

Elanimus,

Welcome to this forum.
If you wanna help Tito, you dont have to post here on this forum.
Contact him, go to his home and help him.

Tito can come back when ever he wants.
Problem was that he pull around members for 10 years,
while he was creating his own religion and church here.

For your informations atheists dont exists, but you need brain to conclude that.

You believe in God, but you never saw him in person.

Scientists believe in Corona virus, but they never saw it in person or been in same room with virus.

In both cases you have believers.

So seat back and rethink about your attitude.
Tito was never endangered, he just push wrong things in wrong place.

If you two wanna create your church and followers, go to some another site dedicated to that.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on August 07, 2020, 10:35:56 AM

Whatisit

QuoteFor your informations atheists dont exists, but you need brain to conclude that.
You believe in God, but you never saw him in person.
Scientists believe in Corona virus, but they never saw it in person or been in same room with virus.
In both cases you have believers.

Ah, the tu quoque or appeal to hypocrisy fallacy, well played.
Below is a picture of the Corona virus taken by scientists, found here with many others https://www.cdc.gov/media/subtopic/images.htm, so in fact they have seen it.

As well, an Atheist is a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of gods. Many theists like to peddle the hypocrisy fallacy by claiming Atheism is also a belief like theism however it is not, it is a lack of belief therefore we do exist, lol.

However I get it and when one lives in an imaginary world where beliefs dictate reality and not facts it would be hard to imagine not having beliefs. Not unlike how a long term alcoholic might find it hard imagining what being sober feels like. They become trapped in abnormal habitual behavior to the extent that they have no comprehension of what normal or reality looks like. As such we should be very careful about what we believe and why... we should question everything.

In my opinion this is part of the reason why many like myself can understand FE because we are willing to accept the natural world and the facts we know for what they are in reality. I simply have no need for beliefs or imaginary things and it's enough to understand the natural world as it is. I would suggest spending more time outdoors away from other people to cleanse your mind. Many become so immersed in society with all it's false beliefs, more so in highly populated area's, that they quite literally have no sense of what normal or nature is.

QuoteTito can come back when ever he wants.
Problem was that he pull around members for 10 years,
while he was creating his own religion and church here.

Just like the good old days when the church sent it's missionaries out to every corner of the Earth to "spread the word". However when conversion didn't work the soldiers were often sent in to convert them by force. I like how Tito always integrates theism with FE, as if to say all you have to do is believe in god and FE could be yours. The missionaries used the same techniques to bait others into believing and once people were converted they would convert there family and friends. It's a remarkable system of mind control because it's so subtle and few question it... we should question everything.

I once read an article written by a former priest who claimed they had quota's on how many new people they needed to convert just like Amway. The more people they converted and the more money they brought in the faster they moved up the ladder like a pyramid scheme. As such theism/organized religion may be the oldest pyramid scheme in history with a net worth in trillions of dollars partly due to there wonderful tax free status. Imagine a multi-trillion dollar business/pyramid scheme which pays no tax, provides no tangible goods or services and there customers feel morally compelled to convert others into more customers... fascinating stuff.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on August 07, 2020, 01:10:30 PM

There are also many paintigs of God.
So, if I show you painting with God on it, you imediatelly know that He exists?
But only few claimed that they saw Him. Prophets.

To see virus on picture is not the same as work with it.
Only small number of scientists are actually working with Corona virus.
And there are many kinds of scientists. Not all of them are working with viruses.

You are scientist too. Otherwise, you would not be here on this forum.
Did you saw Corona virus in person? Or been in same room with virus?

So, you can only believe what others tell you about that virus.

Believe is key word here.

Scientists believe what other scientists or persons tell them, or not.
But they believe just as religious man believe in God.

At the end everyone believe in something.
Everyone.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on August 07, 2020, 01:59:27 PM

Quote from: onepower on August 07, 2020, 10:35:56 AM

I like how Tito always integrates theism with FE, as if to say all you have to do is believe in god and FE could be yours.

Do you also like how religious people cut heads of journalist.?
Or how they teach kids to carry machine gun and kill they neighbours.?
Or how religious man in middle ages burned people on stake?

Everything in the name of God.

They also integrate theism with their lives.

Why scientists does not do that horrors?

So, you can believe in Tito as much as you want.
He integrated theism in his life, and do not want to help the world with his FE,
and you like that?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: elanimus on August 07, 2020, 04:00:19 PM

onepower,

Yeah, brainwashed as in indoctrinated into a ludicrous set of beliefs. Let us first agree in what God means. God is a universal symbol for the Limitlessness essentially, don't you agree? The different religions of the world which were brought about by great civilizations simply express this idea symbolically using stories. Not all of them told it in human and mythical stories, some of them actually wrote directly about the metaphyics. But Religion as well as language are imperfect, they are imperfect symbols which connect to some idea. Since God is a symbol of the unknown we have no choice but to tell it and reduce it in terms of known, easy objects. For instance, the movies the Matrix, Interstellar, Avatar etc.. are founded in subtler wisdom traditions which are boring or incomprehinslbe or insane if expressed directly. God is simply the Universe , manifest or unmanifest. You have to realize your tiny, limited, and impotent nature in this existence. The stories and myths about God are only palpable descriptions of this same reality that scientist are trying to dissect. Modern scientists too have imaginary friends(symbols) and angels; the photon particles, protons and electrons, quarks. Black hole? Haha the hindu God Krisna literally means black. Big bang theory, like what the heck is that? I mean there are cosmologies in the ancient world way more advanced than that and congruent. All symbolic language has its imperfection but it doesn't mean its wrong, we have to recognize the the fundamental effort which is to understand. What is proof to you? Proof is imperfect, it can be misinterpreted, your assumptions decide what kind of proof you require. And yes WhatIsIt mentioned it but basically most atheits are not really atheists, they always believe in something. They believe anything "science" sayd, scientists are priests today although nobody knows something that deeply. Although i suspect the inventions of the world came about from some type of mystical insights into the universe. Tesla's fascination with the esoteric and i read today that Da Vinci for instance was deeply interested in "proportion", which is the Logos or the Word that Jesus uniquely represented. A divine proportion or a balance between soul and spirit.

WhatIsIt,

I have very little knowledge in electricity and magnetism and FE but i really believe it is possible. And some experts here seem to believe that there is merit in what Tito is saying.

Yeah, atheism cannot exist. It's simply impossible. Most atheists are just angry and resentful about the injustices(personal otherwise) their past religion seems to be causing.

onepower,

Who exactly is not living in an imaginary world? What is your clear criteria for dividing the real and the unreal? Are you sure that criteria is true and not indoctrinated?
Yes, people seem to be religious or atheists to escape a certain confusion or pain like an addict. The higher way is understanding and transcendence. This is different from escape in the fact that you are not running away from anything, you are actually getting close to yourself, and to the source of your hurt. This central theme runs through all religion.

You may not need "imaginary friends" as you call them but your mind is undeniably full of imaginations or creations, its simply a necessity. You need balance and a higher state of mind in your life wherever you may be now, and the religions merely echoed this message for the masses. Yeah, i totally agree about the benefits of the "hermit lifestyle", there is no distraction and your attention will become more subtler. This sort of the reason why people who live in the jungle have more keen senses and how sometimes deaf/blind/slow people tend to be prodigies in some field.

Religious dogma the behaviours of missionaries or how people exploited religion, is separate from the general message. All in all, ideas about God have probably benefited mankind out of our dark selfish energies. Religion was a natural development of societal awareness.

I will learn how to quote later but someone said this: I like how Tito always integrates theism with FE, as if to say all you have to do is believe in god and FE could be yours.

Actually, Tito is exactly right, FE requires a subtler understanding of our physical reality which is connected to the spiritual. The foundation of all of these is God. I am slightly familiar with Walter Russell, Itzhak Bentov, Jacob Boeme etc.. and these people have actually perceived the world in different ways as did tesla. They understood the aether and other subtler bodies. This is not a new thing but it requires some sort of perfected consciousness. James clerk maxwell who was kind of pivotal was also a deeply religious person.

Do you also like how religious people cut heads of journalist.?
Or how they teach kids to carry machine gun and kill they neighbours.?
Or how religious man in middle ages burned people on stake?

Yes, these are all collateral damage by imperfect people and society. Attachement to belief is not unique to religion actually. False ego is the root of all that you mentioned.

Why scientists don't murder people? First of all, this is wrong. Christians today don't murder people, normally. Christians are much more genial and loving usually, you seem to ignore this fact. Chrisitans are more peaceful and athiestic countries seem to be filled with serial killers, murder, crime cause there is no consequence. Christians lashout at some intolerable extremity but that usually is because many chrisitans are not sincere and they get attached to wrong doctrines of hate/division. Scientists today may be attached to their theories and actually murder whole generations by stopping progress and this is what seems to be happening nowadays.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on August 07, 2020, 04:40:04 PM

Why do you claim that all scientists are christians?
Only christians are scientists?

I said that scientists does not cut heads of journalists.
I did not mention christians.

But then again who made atomic bomb?

You wrote lots of things. Mostly true.

And Tito is right. He does not share his FE. Lots of people die from hunger and they become spirits and that is Titos connection to spirituality.
Thats true.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: elanimus on August 07, 2020, 05:13:24 PM

I didn't really claim that. It might just be my biased experience but from what i have seen and read, most scientists of the past weren't driven by "There is No God" sentiments. They were inspired by the mysterious workings of Nature. They were in love with God and trying to get closer. They knew that God referred to the infinite & divine universe. The reactionary hatred/contempt of atheists towards Christians is not directed at the central themes but other tangents & dogma. And dogma is not unique to religion.. its just a phenomenon when something stultifies or forgotten. For instance, Tesla said the following:

"Buddhism and Christianity are the greatest religions both in number of disciples and in importance."

Now both religions may have their dogmas but their beneficial central teachings are undeniable.

Alright i was trying to make a point since most people accuse religion of being just about war and destruction. The lower parts of my previous message was a response for both onepower and you.

Yeap, atomic bomb. And the education system nowadays seems like a pyramid scheme but we are not blaming eduction.

If Tito has discovered FE it will be revealed in time. There is a reason people don't share it, Tesla probably worked it all out among other people. Check this quote from tesla:

"Perhaps the most valuable application of wireless energy will be the propulsion of flying machines, which will carry no fuel and will be free from any limitations of the present airplanes and dirigibles. We shall ride from New York to Europe in a few hours. International boundaries will be largely obliterated and a great step will be made toward the unification and harmonious existence of the various races inhabiting the globe. Wireless will not only make possible the supply of energy to region, however inaccessible, but it will be effective politically by harmonizing international interests; it will create understanding instead of differences."

Makes me wonder about the flying saucers. Tesla never wrote his "rational" & "complete" theories about energy and matter. :(

EDIT: http://www.gongoff.com/nikola-tesla/who-is-god-nikola-tesla-explains

JOURNALIST: You said that I am, like all creatures, the light. This flatters me, but I admit I do not understand quite well.

TESLA: Why should you understand, Mr. Smith? Just believe it. Everything is light. In one of its ray is the fate of nations, each nation has its own ray in the great source of light which we see as the sun. And remember: no one, who had existed, is dead. They transformed into the light, and so still exist. The secret lies in the fact that the light particles restore their original state.

JOURNALIST: This is the resurrection!

TESLA: I prefer to call it: return to the previous energy. Christ and some others knew the secret. I did some research how to preserve human energy. It is a form of light, sometimes equal to the heavenly light. I have not done the research for myself, but for the good of all. I believe that my discoveries will make life easier and more bearable to people, and direct them to spirituality and morality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpAFVV-WxrM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on August 08, 2020, 02:19:58 AM

Whatisit
Obviously I have touched a nerve and ruffled some feathers however my intent was not to attack any given person or belief more so to point out the flaws in our reasoning. For example...

QuoteThere are also many paintigs of God.
So, if I show you painting with God on it, you imediatelly know that He exists?
But only few claimed that they saw Him. Prophets.

So if there were many paintings of bigfoot riding a unicorn but only supposed prophets claimed to see them would you know they exist?. Well no that is completely absurd yet that is what you would have me believe. This is a false cause fallacy in presuming there is a relationship between a painting of something, an unrelated false claim by supposed prophets and the true reality of the situation.

QuoteTo see virus on picture is not the same as work with it.
Only small number of scientists are actually working with Corona virus.
And there are many kinds of scientists. Not all of them are working with viruses.
You are scientist too. Otherwise, you would not be here on this forum.
Did you saw Corona virus in person? Or been in same room with virus?

Your using the special pleading fallacy and trying to move the goal posts. First you said "Scientists believe in Corona virus, but they never saw it in person or been in same room with virus" and I showed you a picture the scientists took of the virus. Now your saying a picture is not enough and they have to work with it. Next I imagine a picture and working with it is not enough and the the scientists would actually have to be infected, lol. Then you became so desperate you actually implied I would have to be in the same room and see it for myself. Exactly how far do you intend to move the goal posts?... Uranus?.

QuoteSo, you can only believe what others tell you about that virus.
Believe is key word here.

I like to think of it this way, 19,266,406 infected people growing by 279,000 per day and 718,530 dead can't be wrong can they?. I also know some people who were infected with Covid ... or I could believe your weak and almost unintelligible arguments. Not much of a choice is it?.

QuoteScientists believe what other scientists or persons tell them, or not.
But they believe just as religious man believe in God.

So your suggesting that a scientist with decades of first hand experience believing what another scientist with decades of first hand experience said and proved with facts is similar to joe blow on the corner saying he believes he has an imaginary friend?... got it.

QuoteAt the end everyone believe in something.
Everyone.

Nice conclusion, however your using the bandwagon fallacy incorrectly. Your supposed to imply because more people believe something it must be more true but somehow you managed to screw that up, kudos. To be honest, I believe you believe because your line of reasoning and justification is like nothing I have ever seen my friend. You are off the charts...

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: WhatIsIt on August 08, 2020, 02:50:41 AM

If you did not see something with your own eyes, or touch it,
you have to believe others what they serve to you about it.
What ever that is.

Is this simple enough for your intelect?

And key word here is believe.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: elanimus on August 08, 2020, 12:11:57 PM

Quote from: onepower on August 08, 2020, 02:19:58 AM
So your suggesting that a scientist with decades of first hand experience believing what another scientist with decades of first hand experience said and proved with facts is similar to joe blow on the corner saying he believes he has an imaginary friend?... got it.

Nice conclusion, however your using the bandwagon fallacy incorrectly. Your supposed to imply because more people believe something it must be more true but somehow you managed to screw that up, kudos. To be honest, I believe you believe because your line of reasoning and justification is like nothing I have ever seen my friend. You are off the charts...

The scientific community along with the receivers can rot into idea echo chambers highly disconnect from reality. Decades of firsthand experience is kinda irrelevant. "First hand experience" is not a good criteria to separate the weed from the wheat. It is understandable that many people are busy trying to live that they can't be true scientists(judges), as it's difficult for religious people to become true theologicians. Imaginary friend is a gross misrepresentation. We can basically call every concept human beings have come up with an "imaginary friend". I mean materiailisic science nowadays is filled with bizarre theories and concoctions trying to explain simple phenomena with its "holy" strictly-physical cosmos dogma. These theories are laughable and yet many people take them to be ultimate reality.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on August 09, 2020, 12:41:05 PM

Elanimus

QuoteThe scientific community along with the receivers can rot into idea echo chambers highly disconnect from reality. Decades of firsthand experience is kinda irrelevant. "First hand experience" is not a good criteria to separate the weed from the wheat. It is understandable that many people are busy trying to live that they can't be true scientists(judges), as it's difficult for religious people to become true theologicians.

Your simply moving the goal posts again as well as using the appeal to purity fallacy to imply because knowledge, understanding and expertise are difficult to understand they must be irrelevant...really?.

QuoteImaginary friend is a gross misrepresentation. We can basically call every concept human beings have come up with an "imaginary friend". I mean materiailisic science nowadays is filled with bizarre theories and concoctions trying to explain simple phenomena with its "holy" strictly-physical cosmos dogma. These theories are laughable and yet many people take them to be ultimate reality.

In my opinion your simply kicking the can down the road. First you falsely implied knowledge and expertise are irrelevant and now your implying every human concept is somehow imaginary. Which is simply a strange way of arguing that ignorance is somehow a virtue when we know it's not. In my opinion it's just another logical fallacy because if every concept is imaginary and knowledge and understanding irrelevant the same line of reason must also apply to you and your beliefs. All of your conceptual understanding and supposed knowledge must be irrelevant as well.

Ah, there lies the problem doesn't it?. You would apply a set of rules to judge everyone else but never yourself.

QuoteI mean materiailisic science nowadays is filled with bizarre theories and concoctions trying to explain simple phenomena with its "holy" strictly-physical cosmos dogma. These theories are laughable and yet many people take them to be ultimate reality.

I believe you may have just proven my point better than I could. Let's replace a few of your words and see what happens...

"I mean "religion" nowadays is filled with bizarre theories and concoctions trying to explain simple phenomena with its "holy" strictly "non-physical" cosmos dogma. These theories are laughable and yet many people take them to be ultimate reality."

It would seem to me your subconscious mind may know something you are not willing to admit to yourself. Why use the terminology of religion to falsely judge science which is simply the study of natural phenomena?. This is a common theme in theism, to accuse others of the thing we are because we cannot accept it, ergo we cannot accept ourselves as we are.

Myself, I'm cool with knowing I'm just another being on this planet drifting towards the constellation Orion in a seemingly infinite universe. I'm not a god superior to everything or everyone nor will I live forever in some imaginary place, my time here is finite. However I'm just a country boy at heart who would rather walk barefoot through the grass than across the marble floors of some mansion or church. Material possessions and beliefs don't impress me much, knowledge and understanding does.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: elanimus on August 09, 2020, 01:19:48 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: elanimus on August 09, 2020, 01:30:52 PM

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Your simply moving the goal posts again as well as using the appeal to purity fallacy to imply because knowledge, understanding and expertise are difficult to understand they must be irrelevant...really?.

No, i am not appealing to purity fallacy, don't just ignore my points. I was reminding you that your judgement about today's scientific knowledge requires a leap of faith since there's no universal criteria. There are many ways in which a school of thought can be corrupted. I can argue like you did that the original holisitic non-materialistic science had millenia of first hand experience.

Quote
In my opinion your simply kicking the can down the road. First you falsely implied knowledge and expertise are irrelevant and now your implying every human concept is somehow imaginary. Which is simply a strange way of arguing that ignorance is somehow a virtue when we know it's not. In my opinion it's just another logical fallacy because if every concept is imaginary and knowledge and understanding irrelevant the same line of reason must also apply to you and your beliefs. All of your conceptual understanding and supposed knowledge must be irrelevant as well.

Ah, there lies the problem doesn't it?. You would apply a set of rules to judge everyone else but never yourself.

Ah, man i didn't imply knowledge and expertise are irrelevant, what? And yes concept or to conceive **literally** means to create/imagine some thing in order to represent a pattern in nature. Oh my God, when did i say ignorance is virtue? This fallacy of twisting my points permeates your responses.

No, i fundamentally understand my imaginary conceptions are not Truth. The truth lies one step beyond my thoughts, imagination, conception.. and that is what materialisic science and atheists, and nihilists foolishly fail to see. If people are not indoctrinated this was a very simple first principle but unfortunately this is the zeitegeist nowadays. Pathetic.

Quote
I believe you may have just proven my point better than I could. Let's replace a few of your words and see what happens...

"I mean "religion" nowadays is filled with bizarre theories and concoctions trying to explain simple phenomena with its "holy" strictly "non-physical" cosmos dogma. These theories are laughable and yet many people take them to be ultimate reality."

Yes, this was my point. Both are not perfect, but both have valid points for our existence.

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It would seem to me your subconscious mind may know something you are not willing to admit to yourself. Why use the terminology of religion to falsely judge science which is simply the study of natural phenomena?. This is a common theme in theism, to accuse others of the thing we are because we cannot accept it, ergo we cannot accept ourselves as we are.

Myself, I'm cool with knowing I'm just another being on this planet drifting towards the constellation Orion in a seemingly infinite universe. I'm not a god superior to everything or everyone nor will I live forever in some imaginary place, my time here is finite. However I'm just a country boy at heart who would rather walk barefoot through the grass than across the marble floors of some mansion or church. Material possessions and beliefs don't impress me much, knowledge and understanding does.

Well, yeah i try not to attach myself to bodies of knowledge cause there's more important/fundamental things than knowledge. The emphasis should be upon continous improvement as opposed to "i am only right" stasis. Instead of completely denying the other view and being attached to one's own, its better to really try and understand both viewpoints so that their imperfections can be highlighted and their truths synthesized. Nature requires continous changes of consciousness until there's an equilibrium or else she will wipe you out.

I am simply pointing out that true science and true religion are very complementary and even necessary to each other for growth and progress. Science is not exempt from the human patterns/changes and influences that corrupt religion. This is a common theme in theism? Accusing others? What do you mean?

You should work on the false popular assumption that religion is an escape to imaginary creations. Religion is simply a distilled poetic body of wisdom regarding the workings of nature and the Absolute. Astronomy btw was very old and was caused by the same religiously inquisitve spirit that eventually changed into dogmatic science. You will not live forever in some "imaginary place", but the matter, energies and spirits that cause you to breath and see will live on for eternity in another form. Well, yes you are not that different from religous people, they are humble and all they want is communion with God which in other words is true understanding.

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P.S what do you think Tesla meant in the following quotes?

"Everything is Light.. Christ and others knew the secret."

"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: EMJunkie on August 11, 2020, 02:58:43 AM

It's a real shame that threads like this, have gone so terribly, badly, way off topic!

Such progress could be made if a thread like this was taken seriously! A hint in the correct direction: Standing Wave Mechanics in an Asymmetrical System.

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
Chris Sykes

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on August 11, 2020, 03:42:07 AM

Have you tried asking Paul Wallis a fellow countryman of yours?
He recons he has worked it all out

Anyway light is a very narrow spectrum of bandwidth try looking into the RED band
you will see much more the type of night scope used in early Vietnam war days.
with them on you see other stuff, take them off and it's all gone.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: EMJunkie on August 11, 2020, 05:10:34 AM

Quote from: AlienGrey on August 11, 2020, 03:42:07 AM
Have you tried asking Paul Wallis a fellow countryman of yours?
He recons he has worked it all out

Anyway light is a very narrow spectrum of bandwidth try looking into the RED band
you will see much more the type of night scope used in early Vietnam war days.
with them on you see other stuff, take them off and it's all gone.

Hi AG,

No, I do not know Paul Wallis. If he has worked it out, good on him! He will no doubt know what I am talking about!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
Chris Sykes

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on August 11, 2020, 11:27:37 AM

Elanimus

QuoteNo, i fundamentally understand my imaginary conceptions are not Truth. The truth lies one step beyond my thoughts, imagination, conception.. and that is what materialisic science and atheists, and nihilists foolishly fail to see. If people are not indoctrinated this was a very simple first principle but unfortunately this is the zeitegeist nowadays. Pathetic.

I believe you summed it up nicely...
1)You understand your imaginary conceptions are not Truth.
2)The truth lies one step beyond your thoughts, imagination, conception.
3)That is what materialisic science fails to see.

Ergo, your supposed truth is not materialistic or based on facts but more so strange thoughts you believe are somehow not your own. What I find very interesting is how theists like to separate themselves from there beliefs or thoughts as you have. As you imply, "The truth lies one step beyond my thoughts", as a way to deny any responsibility for your actions. As if to say, I don't need to take responsibility for my beliefs or actions because something imaginary is controlling me. Classic psychosis whereby an individual has sensory experiences of things that do not exist and/or beliefs with no basis in reality.

The problem here is that once one becomes psychotic and detaches themselves from reality they are capable of almost anything. Not unlike the good christian man who went into the abortion clinic with a gun in one hand and a bible in the other blowing away doctors and nurses. He probably believed God wanted him to kill all those innocent people and that "the truth was greater than himself" thus he was not really responsible for his vile actions.

Look at donny trump and his almost exclusively elderly white christian supporters. Trump has been proven to be a narcissistic abusive compulsive liar who is consumed by greed and likes to grope young women. He represents everything theism tells us not to do and yet the christians champion him as there savior or chosen one. I suspect all those people also believe "the truth is beyond them" and they would probably vote for Adolf Hitler if they thought it would reinforce there beliefs.

So we should understand the dangers involved with a mob or populist mentality whereby people seek to separate themselves and there beliefs from there actions in reality. So it was never a liberal/conservative problem, nor was it a social/economic issue in my opinion. What we have is large segments of society around the world who are no longer grounded in reality. They cannot accept the reality of there finite existence nor the changes occurring all around them so they have created an imaginary world to cope. This concept is proven in psychology and the trick here is critical thinking, to examine not only what we think but also how and why.

Another interesting fact in psychology is that the criminal mind has similar thoughts. They lack empathy because in some sense they believe there thoughts and actions are not really there own. Not unlike a bipolar condition they have separated themselves and become a third person detached from there own thoughts and reality. Which is why they appear to lack empathy because in there strange twisted reality they are always innocent, a victim. We know this concept well don't we?... people always claiming to be the victim despite there actions?, a Red Flag in my opinion.

In any case, making up excuses for believing in imaginary things not justified in reality is not the way.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: EMJunkie on August 11, 2020, 11:49:21 PM

Kinetic Energy, where the very movement of a Charged Particle is defined as Energy!

Quote

Energy of Electrons in Atomic Orbitals
The central structure of an atom is the nucleus, which contains protons and neutrons. This nucleus is surrounded by electrons. Although these electrons all have the same charge and the same mass, each electron in an atom has a different amount of energy. Electrons with the lowest energy are found closest to the nucleus, where the attractive force of the positively charged nucleus is the greatest. Electrons that have higher energy are found further away.

Energy Quantization
When the energy of an atom is increased (for example, when a substance is heated), the energy of the electrons inside the atom is also increased—that is to say, the electrons get excited. For the excited electron to go back to its original energy, or ground state, it needs to release energy. One way an electron can release energy is by emitting light. Each element emits light at a specific frequency (or color) upon heating that corresponds to the energy of the electronic excitation.

It is helpful to think of this like going up a flight of steps. If you don't lift your foot enough, you will bump into the step and be stuck on the ground level. You need to lift your foot to the height of the step to move on. The same goes for electrons and the amount of energy they can have. This separating of electrons into energy units is called quantization of energy because there are only certain quantities of energy that an electron can have in an atom. The energy of the light released when an electron drops down from a higher energy level to a lower energy level is the same as the difference in energy between the two levels.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

Key Points
If the energy of an atom is increased, an electron in the atom gets excited. To go back to its ground state, the electron releases energy. The energy of the light released when an electron drops in energy level is the same as the difference in energy between the two levels.

Viewed simply, electrons are arranged in shells around an atom's nucleus. Electrons closest to the nucleus will have the lowest energy. Electrons further away from the nucleus will have higher energy. An atom's electron shell can accommodate 2n2 electrons (where n is the shell level).

In a more realistic model, electrons move in atomic orbitals, or subshells. There are four different orbital shapes: s, p, d, and f. Within each shell, the s subshell is at a lower energy than the p. An orbital diagram is used to determine an atom's electron configuration.

There are guidelines for determining the electron configuration of an atom. An electron will move to the orbital with lowest energy. Each orbital can hold only one electron pair. Electrons will separate as much as possible within a shell.

Key Terms
frequency: The number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit of time.
quantization: The process of approximating a continuous signal by a set of discrete symbols or integer values.

What are the fundamental processes in Freeing Electrons from Outer orbitals and allowing them to move?

This process is involved: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo2-Qb3fUYs

Smart people, will be able to see fundamental process here is exactly what occurs in an Electrical "Generator"!

ENERGY AMPLIFICATION (https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/), is achieved by Asymmetrical means, using this very same process! Tito L. Oracion, does this give you any more information on your threads query?

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
Chris Sykes

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: arhitrade on August 12, 2020, 12:49:25 AM

EMJunkie, here about it - with formulas: https://gorchilin.com/articles/free/magnetic_2?lang=en (https://gorchilin.com/articles/free/magnetic_2?lang=en)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: EMJunkie on August 12, 2020, 01:16:41 AM

Quote from: arhitrade on August 12, 2020, 12:49:25 AM
EMJunkie, here about it - with formulas: https://gorchilin.com/articles/free/magnetic_2?lang=en (https://gorchilin.com/articles/free/magnetic_2?lang=en)

Hey Arhitrade,

I believe Vyacheslav Gorchilin is correct and on the right track! I have not read all his work, but what I have read, it is almost exactly the same as mine!

If one of the Hertzian Wave forms costs you 0.9 of your Input and you get the second wave for free, then this is Energy, Asymmetrically birthed, that was not available to you before. Below, one of the Wave Forms, Magnetic B in Red and Electric, shown as Current I, is there simply because the other wave is there! Resonance is important in these systems, Magnetic Resonance, where each Current is 180 degrees out of phase to the other.

Study on this topic, you will see great progress! I have provided a great deal of information here: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated! (https://overunity.com/18464/partnered-output-coils-builders-group-moderated/msg545088/#msg545088)

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
Chris Sykes

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: elanimus on August 13, 2020, 01:09:19 AM

QuoteErgo, your supposed truth is not materialistic or based on facts but more so strange thoughts you believe are somehow not your own. What I find very interesting is how theists like to separate themselves from there beliefs or thoughts as you have. As you imply, "The truth lies one step beyond my thoughts", as a way to deny any responsibility for your actions. As if to say, I don't need to take responsibility for my beliefs or actions because something imaginary is controlling me. Classic psychosis whereby an individual has sensory experiences of things that do not exist and/or beliefs with no basis in reality.

It is not materialisit doesn't mean it cannot be fact. This is your material limit and bias on display. Actual reality lies beyond words and thoughts. For instance, the most important question which underlies everything is "who are you?", you can only answer this question with words and thoughts which are mere symbols but not the actual reality. This doesn't mean i am not responsible for my actions whatever that means. You are only in control of your mind to the extent that you know yourself. Religion and things of that nature are here to make this process less complex.

QuoteThe problem here is that once one becomes psychotic and detaches themselves from reality they are capable of almost anything. Not unlike the good christian man who went into the abortion clinic with a gun in one hand and a bible in the other blowing away doctors and nurses. He probably believed God wanted him to kill all those innocent people and that "the truth was greater than himself" thus he was not really responsible for his vile actions.

No, realizing the common sense that there's nuemnon underlying physical phenomena and also our consciousness doesn't mean disconnecting from reality LOl. The rest of your sentence is a fallacy, straw man? Again, i can flip it on you but the exceptions and exploitations do not represent the whole.

QuoteLook at donny trump and his almost exclusively elderly white christian supporters. Trump has been proven to be a narcissistic abusive compulsive liar who is consumed by greed and likes to grope young women. He represents everything theism tells us not to do and yet the christians champion him as there savior or chosen one. I suspect all those people also believe "the truth is beyond them" and they would probably vote for Adolf Hitler if they thought it would reinforce there beliefs.

I am not sure about the appropriateness of that statistics. But do you really really think trump represents a good Christian? Most Christians don't do these things and it's the atheists and nihilists in recent history who have been responsible for mass destruction.

QuoteSo we should understand the dangers involved with a mob or populist mentality whereby people seek to separate themselves and there beliefs from there actions in reality. So it was never a liberal/conservative problem, nor was it a social/economic issue in my opinion. What we have is large segments of society around the world who are no longer grounded in reality. They cannot accept the reality of there finite existence nor the changes occurring all around them so they have created an imaginary world to cope. This concept is proven in psychology and the trick here is critical thinking, to examine not only what we think but also how and why.

I agree, most people are idiots that's the source of all problem. You're just too obsessed with physical death that it has become the center of your emotions and thoughts. "People die, so life is meaningless and nothing matters." These are the sort of idiots who usually drown in escapism btw. Why are you so obsessed with death? I mean do you really think death is that frightening? Death is frightening only for people who are not living or are living in a limited egotistic universe. How can you not see the fact that you are connected to everything else? You can't exist without air, earth, light etc.. the same way a TV's signal stays after it's destroyed, the energies that moved you when were alive will live after you die. 99% of your physical body dies every year anyway, right? You are not just your body. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

QuoteAnother interesting fact in psychology is that the criminal mind has similar thoughts. They lack empathy because in some sense they believe there thoughts and actions are not really there own. Not unlike a bipolar condition they have separated themselves and become a third person detached from there own thoughts and reality. Which is why they appear to lack empathy because in there strange twisted reality they are always innocent, a victim. We know this concept well don't we?... people always claiming to be the victim despite there actions?, a Red Flag in my opinion.

Religion is one awesome type of psychology. Btw are you using psychology as coping mechanism to escape reality bla bla bla? Exactly. No, that is a stretching of what i said, and you didn't really understand it. Knowing karma will only make you self aware and in control of yourself and understanding and emphatetic of others. Hahaha trust me knowing yourself is the opposite of having a victim mentality, i have argued with many people about this and ALWAYS the nihilists and atheists tend to see themselves as victims.

Quote
In any case, making up excuses for believing in imaginary things not justified in reality is not the way.

Religion is not about making up excuses. It's about understanding the nature of reality. Your understanding must at first be based on symbols which are not reality itself. This is true for the fake science of today, mythology and also our vision. It's like you're saying our eye vision is perfect and using reason(which is based on forms/ideas/angels) is believing in imaginary things

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on August 16, 2020, 10:49:21 AM

elanimus

QuoteI am not sure about the appropriateness of that statistics. But do you really really think trump represents a good Christian? Most Christians don't do these things and it's the atheists and nihilists in recent history who have been responsible for mass destruction.

I would agree most theists don't do bad things as individuals but they support people who do bad things. If atheist's are responsible for mass destruction then name one?. In fact almost every war and mass destruction was a religious war based on hate and contempt for the others beliefs not a lack of belief as Atheism.

QuoteI agree, most people are idiots that's the source of all problem. You're just too obsessed with physical death that it has become the center of your emotions and thoughts. "People die, so life is meaningless and nothing matters." These are the sort of idiots who usually drown in escapism btw.

I never said most people are idiots and disagree, most people are good in my opinion. As well your claim that "People die, so life is meaningless and nothing matters." is also false. Our life has meaning due to the fact we exist and our actions while we exist. It would seem to me the theists are the ones consumed by a fear of death hence the need for an imaginary after life and escapism from reality. You seem confused on this matter, Atheists do not believe in imaginary gods or an afterlife which in no way implies we fear death or need to escape reality, we think reality is pretty cool hence... Atheism.

QuoteHahaha trust me knowing yourself is the opposite of having a victim mentality, i have argued with many people about this and ALWAYS the nihilists and atheists tend to see themselves as victims.

My point was that donny trump is a psychopath and constantly whining how he is always a victim, how everything is a conspiracy against him and trumps supporters are almost exclusively elderly white christian's. Trumps supporters obviously bought into all the I'm the victim/conspiracy bs because they said so and continue to support trump. His supporters are so desperate they said they don't care how bad he is or what he does which sounds like a victim mentality to me. The only reason I care is because trump is a fascist who said he wants to be a dictator like Putin and Adolf. If trump becomes the next Adolf Hitler then obviously this effects everyone and it could start another world war. So I am no victim, simply the guy pointing out how false beliefs in imaginary things generally have disastrous results. You want to believe in imaginary things, elect psychopath dictators, destroy the planet and everyone on it, so be it but don't expect me to believe your bs while you do it.

QuoteReligion is not about making up excuses. It's about understanding the nature of reality. Your understanding must at first be based on symbols which are not reality itself. This is true for the fake science of today, mythology and also our vision. It's like you're saying our eye vision is perfect and using reason(which is based on forms/ideas/angels) is believing in imaginary things

So you think we should believe in imaginary things not reality and facts... Got it.

Regards

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: renaud67 on September 18, 2020, 08:09:57 AM

French speaker :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiumXc6asvA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiumXc6asvA)
[ENERGIE EXCÉDENTAIRE] Tesla avait il raison ? "A VOUS DE RÉPLIQUER"

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: ramset on September 18, 2020, 08:56:21 AM

Sir

This man is sharing here

https://overunity.com/18629/secret-resonance-edwin-grayakuladon-smith/msg550528/#new

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on September 19, 2020, 07:17:41 AM

Quote from: ramset on September 18, 2020, 08:56:21 AM
Sir

This man is sharing here

https://overunity.com/18629/secret-resonance-edwin-grayakuladon-smith/msg550528/#new

Ramset!

Do you watch many French films with 'French captions' in the lower part of the screen?
I don't wish to be unkind or clever but are you going to explain how to translate it to English as
I expect you will have to make a video on how to do that (leave out an instruction or test on doing so
and your back to square 1. :o
as most of the guys appear to expect every last detail explaining to them and then there is the problem
of explaining his technique that's in french not English so it can be of use or is that in a future disclosure ?

Happy Days eh! :-\

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: fer123 on November 13, 2020, 06:42:21 PM

For the people still working in the Tito" works or clues long clue, well in the next video will show what he was talking about maybe the good way. Enjoy and share if you built It. See you.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: fer123 on November 13, 2020, 06:45:43 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFkkpYcgric&ab_channel=AlsetMagic

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: fer123 on November 13, 2020, 06:47:02 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS6EFMcAtOI&ab_channel=AlsetMagic

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 13, 2020, 07:02:47 PM

7 years old,the first publication !? ???
With included Avramenko plugs.
Who is it ,Espanhol(speaking castilliano ),South-/Central-American ?
Would be nice to get more details about !
Muchas gracias ! ;)
Sincerely

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: fer123 on November 24, 2020, 05:05:55 PM

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 25, 2020, 05:53:31 AM

Hello fer123,how to understand your action : offer and shortly later reaction : poste delete ?
Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: fer123 on November 25, 2020, 11:55:41 AM

Hello lancaIV, there is something about the system I DON'T see how itt s WORK, May be together, I offer you and other ready to built my help, I will réplicate are interesting to built?. Thanks a lot.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on November 25, 2020, 12:12:48 PM

fer123,thanks for the response and offer repeat !

For a trial and result research members here

and some also parallel members from other foren participation

gives a chance to look,think,replicate given 'prototypes' ideas,

with the hope for ≥1 in-out ratio or uncalculateable C.O.P.

like ambiental free open cycle energy converter kniwn as solar-/ thermionic cells,wind-/water-force converter

or nano gas stream converter like electric generators,closed cycle !

Quantum-mechanics : electricity = electron gas ( Schroedinger),
since 1976 international convention electron = ion ergo " ion-gas " ergo electricity= ion-gas

Modern name : plasma
(= quantum terminus for ancient electricity or light,luz,Licht(maschine for e-generator)

Sincerely

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 10, 2020, 09:41:49 AM

Dave45 is the best! 8) Tito is :-* :-* 8) Love!

http://realstrannik.ru/forum/77-temy-ot-fantom/135067-tankodrom.html?start=252#259200
Electrons ... electrons ... don't bother.
Take a ferromagnetic bar with two windings, stick magnets on the sides so that the bar enters
saturation. We feed the emf in the direction in such a way that the current creates a magnetic field opposite to the
field of magnets and core. In this case, the primary has an inductive resistance, in which it occurs
a voltage drop, or rather voltage radiation to space. Space responds: its voltage is already
"precipitated, trapped", induced in the secondary, a current arises. The secondary current will create a magnetic field
codirectional with the field of magnets and core. This means that there is no inductive resistance for the secondary current.

We send the secondary in its entirety. Whatever the current in the secondary, for the primary, the inductive resistance as it was,
it will continue to be so. Magnets and core - medium, voltage primary - space activator (modulator), secondary - drain. Too simple, and therefore it does not fit in the head. But for this to work, you need a small shamanic tambourine, you need to hit it once to "enchant" the core. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: partzman on December 10, 2020, 09:54:30 AM

Quote from: leonelogb on December 10, 2020, 09:41:49 AM
Dave45 is the best! 8) Tito is :-* :-* 8) Love!

http://realstrannik.ru/forum/77-temy-ot-fantom/135067-tankodrom.html?start=252#259200

That link is no longer valid or in use!

Pm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: leonelogb on December 10, 2020, 10:14:00 AM

Sorry buddy! Could be too late already ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on January 07, 2021, 11:30:26 AM

JUST PASSING BY.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbk9AfVfDGI

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: elanimus on January 14, 2021, 01:40:40 AM

Stop wasting your time. Free energy is already here. Thank God for the aliens :D :D :D

Title: Re: ENERGIE-AMPLIFIKATION
Post by: lota on January 14, 2021, 03:51:02 AM

Hallo
hier die PDF-Datei aus dem russischen Forum.
TAHK_1.pdf (narod.ru) (http://www.sergey-osetrov.narod.ru/Clever/TAHK_1.pdf)
Gruß
Lota

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on January 14, 2021, 07:41:24 AM

THANKS FOR SHARING LOTA.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: partzman on January 14, 2021, 10:05:22 AM

Yes, thanks for the paper!

Pm

Edit: Here is a link to fantom's transformer thread-

https://realstrannik.com/forum/fantom/346-obyknovennyj-transformator-3?start=20

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: partzman on January 14, 2021, 10:58:21 AM

Quote from: partzman on January 14, 2021, 10:05:22 AM
Yes, thanks for the paper!

Pm

Edit: Here is a link to fantom's transformer thread-

https://realstrannik.com/forum/fantom/346-obyknovennyj-transformator-3?start=20

Please note:

To remove all adds from the forum (or any search on the web) use the browser "Brave". Then add Google translate to Brave and read the text in English.

The first page of this thread is at-

https://realstrannik.com/forum/fantom/346-obyknovennyj-transformator-3?start=0

This thread appears to have much insite into the operation of standard transformers.

Pm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: synchro1 on January 14, 2021, 03:26:53 PM

@Seychelles,

The enlarged receiver is needed to collect the overunity output from resonance with the Shuman cavity. A same size receiver is too small to pick it up. Konstantin made it clear that the wave length at the receiver is larger than at the broadcast antenna. Tesla's "Magnifier".

A Slayer exciter could deliver a COP of over 6 if the receiver was scaled up to gather it.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on April 28, 2021, 09:56:51 PM

Would an AV Plug made from hi speed zener diodes allow charge and a standing wave to build up in the unit until it's ready to produce power?
Seems to me, this would enable oscillation to continue without killing the dipole.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 27, 2021, 08:25:53 AM

You know you can connect a coil to another coil, and from that coil to another coil with few loses. Now, if we have an amplifying medium, it will continue to amplify without loses.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on May 27, 2021, 08:48:20 AM

Quote from: Leely on May 27, 2021, 08:25:53 AM
You know you can connect a coil to another coil, and from that coil to another coil with few loses. Now, if we have an amplifying medium, it will continue to amplify without loses.

I have a 10 meters coil = 1 input and 1 output

I cut this 10 meters coil in 10 same length coils a 1 meter : how many in-/ouput to calculate, nodes = Kirchhoff

1 coil : in-/outrush current and in-/outrush voltage

10 coils with ? nodes connecting with ? in-/outrush phases ?

a multi-coils array :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940318&CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940318&CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3)

how and why the turns ! Whose increases Voltage and Amperage !? Positive and Negative Force ! Positive or Negative Voltage !

[ positive/negative in physics ever to see directional ,not emotional ( like destructive/generative ) :

f.e. Lenz/Fleming or ccw/cw or centrifugal/centipetal ]

OPERATION Introduction It has long been observed that when a magnet is introduced into a coil wound with copper wire (or any other electrically conductive metal), an electric current is produced in the coil. And when the magnet is removed, another current is born in the coil in the opposite direction to the previous one. And that if this magnet is introduced and withdrawn quickly from the said coil, the more the movements of introducing and withdrawing are numerous and rapid and the more the current increases rapidly.

........

Ampere/Laplace/Biot-Savart coil (-winding/turns) law !

This is my point of view !

And reely,Leely,I wished that EE would be as easy as You describe it !

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 28, 2021, 03:56:11 AM

I now understand that tito didn't build that device alone. There were others who perfected it and told tito not to talk about how it was amplified, which tito complied. There were three men, together with tito making them four that built the device. A lady was there as a spectator, making them five.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on May 28, 2021, 05:55:02 AM

I showed as example the 10 meters coil to 10x 1 meter coils cut and the EE calculation and use "problem" .

We would be stupid to do such an act,complicating the voltage and current stream !

But : there are two types of connection and array construction ,a . serial b. parallel Voltage-amplifying Amperage-amplifying

V- diminuation A- diminuation

to the third : serial and parallel

An 1,2,.... 10,(and more) parallel coil/-s connection idea

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=69&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=69&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A)

decription in european language

http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=JP&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2007028879&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=ja&TRGLANG=en (http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=JP&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2007028879&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=ja&TRGLANG=en)

conditioning :

[0004]

If the voltage is stable, the parallel resistance can increase the current without increasing the voltage. Since the electric power is current x voltage, the electric power can also be increased. Is a device that can easily increase power by n times, which saves input power in terms of cost.

https://brilliant.org/wiki/ohms-law-microscopic-interpretation/#:~:text=Microscopically%2C%20Ohm's%20law%20is%20a,J%20%E2%83%97%20%3D%20%CF%83%20E%20%E2%83%97%20.&text=In%20the%20above%20equation%2C%20%CF%83,current%20density%20at%20a%20point.

Ohm related Mho, 1/resistance or 1/Ohm = SIEMENS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens_(unit)

Amplifying or diminuation of EMF,clearer EMFF to EFF AND MFF and counter BEFF and BMFF

light(particle)-wave-dualism(flash and thunder) :

Electric Force = V -Field = V/m

Magnetic Force =A -Field = A/m

and reciproke : B- (or negative-/counter-/.....)

classical EE-language design for physical phenomens : for example

https://www.wordsense.eu/motere/ (https://www.wordsense.eu/motere/)

moto I set in motion (https://www.wordsense.eu/motion/)
I keep moving (https://www.wordsense.eu/moving/)

motere : moto : MOTOR MOTORIK

differing : https://de.pons.com/%C3%BCbersetzung/latein-deutsch/notare (https://de.pons.com/%C3%BCbersetzung/latein-deutsch/notare)

NOTAR NOTORIK ( neuronal para-/sympathikus to solar plexus)

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notorisch (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notorisch)

Annalen der Physik-language ,deutsch : EMK and MMK Elektro-Motorische-Kraft Magneto-Motorische-Kraft

to EMKF and MMKF F=Feld/Field

K=Kraft/Force and KF = Kraft-Feld/Force-Field

counter/Gegen- : GEMK and GMMK

For this all we have the stringent/strength to differ and use formulas !

and for example to know/noto that GEMK is not spoken "Gemk" but "Gegenelektromotorische Kraft"

alike to speak out : LASER the "word"-user should know that it is an abbreviation : from L.A.S.E.R

Akronym , english light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation

M.A.S.E.R. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maser) microwave amplification by stimulated emission of radiation

Physician and Engineer and Technician : they should speak and write and work by same principle

1 image or 1000 words

1:1

= 1

We should ,probably, also calculate -by acceleration/amplifying- deceleration/diminuation the GRAVITATIONAL FORCE /FIELD change

electron magneton graviton

counter : LEICHT LEVE LEVITATIONAL

This all seems complicated : But from Tesla-T.T.Brown R&D stage to 2021 :

serial and parallel angstrom- thin layer cell/modul converter in multiple stack as "battery"

billions of nano-coils to nano-LCR circuits (= emitter/receptor/amplifier =receiver) per sqm layer

this in nano-small : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfAotrPEkI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfAotrPEkI) 2:20

1 circuit/cycle system = 1 particle = 1 dot to 1 quantum dot

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/materials-science/quantum-dot (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/materials-science/quantum-dot)

Quantum dots (QDs) are semiconductor nanoparticles which exhibit size and composition-dependent optical and electronic (optoelectronic) properties. QDs are ultrasmall, typically falling in the size range between 1.5 and 10.0 nm.

compared 1 human hair : https://www.nano.gov/nanotech-101/what/nano-size#:~:text=There%20are%2025%2C400%2C000%20nanometers%20in,approximately%2080%2C000%2D%20100%2C000%20nanometers%20wide (https://www.nano.gov/nanotech-101/what/nano-size#:~:text=There%20are%2025%2C400%2C000%20nanometers%20in,approximately%2080%2C000%2D%20100%2C000%20nanometers%20wide)

excitons-hunter/trap

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/exciton (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/exciton)

this is called solar-cell-array or Photo-Voltaic generator and in combination with

Phono-Voltaic :

Thermionic converter

" noise-to-signal/signal-to-noise or cps or flops" as velocity denomination

f.l.o.p.s. : Floating_Point_Operations_Per_Second

to differ from experiment flop or life flop

Am I strict in my life,Leely ? Yes,pardon-me for the wrong written conversation word : " ..... reely,Leely ..." ,correct " .... really,Leely ..."!?

EE-Volt to atomic = quantum spectrum eV

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elektronenvolt (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elektronenvolt)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 28, 2021, 08:38:24 AM

I'm meant to believe that the amplifier side is built with components from an already published diagram, of which two components (e.g. A and C) have been interchanged or replaced by false components. But I have not been told the particular published diagram.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on May 28, 2021, 09:29:09 AM

Quote from: Leely on May 28, 2021, 08:38:24 AM
I'm meant to believe that the amplifier side is built with components from an already published diagram, of which two components (e.g. A and C) have been interchanged or replaced by false components. But I have not been told the particular published diagram.

Are You referring #8791

Dave45 is the best! Tito is Love!

http://realstrannik.ru/forum/77-temy-ot-fantom/135067-tankodrom.html?start=252#259200 (http://realstrannik.ru/forum/77-temy-ot-fantom/135067-tankodrom.html?start=252#259200)
Electrons ... electrons ... don't bother.
Take a ferromagnetic bar with two windings, stick magnets on the sides so that the bar enters
saturation. We feed the emf in the direction in such a way that the current creates a magnetic field opposite to the
field of magnets and core. In this case, the primary has an inductive resistance, in which it occurs
a voltage drop, or rather voltage radiation to space. Space responds: its voltage is already
"precipitated, trapped", induced in the secondary, a current arises. The secondary current will create a magnetic field
codirectional with the field of magnets and core. This means that there is no inductive resistance for the secondary current.

We send the secondary in its entirety. Whatever the current in the secondary, for the primary, the inductive resistance as it was,
it will continue to be so. Magnets and core - medium, voltage primary - space activator (modulator), secondary - drain.
Too simple, and therefore it does not fit in the head. But for this to work, you need a small shamanic tambourine, you need to hit it once to "enchant" the core.

related " ..... of which two components (e.g. A and C) have been interchanged or replaced by false components ....." ?

Sincere

OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 29, 2021, 02:10:49 AM

I'm meant to believe again that the device tito built was gotten from a journal, chapter two, the drawing is located at the top of the page.
Moreover, the clues tito gave, made me to find hints which other free energy researchers gave. It made me know that free energy machines are not difficult to build, you needed the right hints from the free energy author to start with.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on May 29, 2021, 02:38:12 AM

Leely

QuoteI'm meant to believe again that the device tito built was gotten from a journal, located at the top of the page, in a particular chapter. And it was clearly written in the first page of the journal that not all drawings in the journal are correct. It seems someone who created the journal wanted people to get some free energy from it because of the way the drawings were presented differently than the way other publishers presented theirs. It seems tito presented to you drawings from other journals, not from that journal, making it difficult for you to locate the loopholes.
And again, tito used clues which are normally in free energy machines to explain the device, which he would have used hints. For example, it's like telling you, you're looking for a car that has a tire, windshield, automatic gear. All cars have tyre, or windshield, some have automatic gear. He should have told you the name of the car, the shape of the car, or even the type of engine it is running. In other words, tito doesn't want you to find the device in what he is saying.

No, the technology was gotten from Tesla, Moray, Figurea, Hendershot, Schauberger and other great minds and it all comes down to a series of basic questions...

What is energy, where is it, why is it?
What is a field, why does it exist, where does it come from?.

If you cannot answer these basic questions then you cannot understand free energy and the odds of attaining it are basically zero.

It works like this my friend, do not judge the person, there language or any other superficial artifacts but only the concept they present. As Tito claimed this is a high voltage phenomena, thus if you cannot or will not put in the effort to understand it then your out of luck. The onus is on you not people like him and if you cannot rise to the occasion then we all understand the consequences of these actions.

Regards
AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 29, 2021, 05:01:09 AM

Based on what I have said so far, I have ascertained that tito seems to have used the earth ground and an antenna to amplify.
There is something I want to add here based on my thinking. I once read that morray used a small battery and a buzzerlike component in his device. In other words, he used a battery to start the device. He did not just collect power from antenna and earth ground to start amplifying. He may have used an earth ground and antenna to amplify. Some publications mislead us, while some publications guide us well.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: MasterPlaster on May 29, 2021, 06:29:53 AM

Quote from: Leely on May 29, 2021, 02:10:49 AM
I'm meant to believe again that the device tito built was gotten from a journal, chapter two......

Leely, What journal? do you have a link?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on May 29, 2021, 03:12:41 PM

Quote from: MasterPlaster on May 29, 2021, 06:29:53 AM
Leely, What journal? do you have a link?

Well, that is no more necessary. It's howTesla showed the possibility of extracting electrons from the ground. It has to do with the diagrams of Tesla's ground and antenna.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on May 29, 2021, 04:03:45 PM

Quote from: Leely on May 29, 2021, 03:12:41 PM
Well, that is no more necessary. It's howTesla showed the possibility of extracting electrons from the ground. It has to do with the diagrams of Tesla's ground and antenna.

Tesla ground , ground beside terra also called tellus ( "the earth is a disc,die Erde ist eine Scheibe " )

Telluric currents or by Tesla "dielectric currents" (radiant energy)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telluric_current (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telluric_current)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric)

dielectric current

dielectric current[,dī·ə′lek·trik ′kər·ənt]
(electricity)
The current flowing at any instant through a surface of a dielectric that is located in a changing electric field.

McGraw-Hill Dictionary of Scientific & Technical Terms, 6E, Copyright © 2003 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.

https://archive.org/details/19470514DerMagnetischeStromUraniavortrag (https://archive.org/details/19470514DerMagnetischeStromUraniavortrag) Prof. Dr. Felix Ehrenhaft

Member Wesley calls it Zenneck wave/TM with Schumann Resonanz amplitude ,the Telluric current spectrum

It sometimes happens, even in science, that one man can be right against the world. ? ? ? was that man.

It is ironic that among the hundreds of thousands of young radio engineers whose commonplaces of theory rest on what ? ? ? fought for bitterly and alone only a handful realize that the battle ever happened...
It was he who insisted, against the stormy protests of every recognized authority, that what we now call radio was worked by "continuous waves" of the kind discovered by Hertz, sent through the ether by the transmitting station as light waves are sent out by a flame.
Marconi and others insisted, instead, that what was happening was the so-called "whiplash effect"...
It is probably not too much to say that the progress of radio was retarded a decade by this error...
The whiplash theory faded gradually out of men's minds and was replaced by the continuous wave one with all too little credit to the man who had been right...

for ? ? ?

a. fill in : Nicola Tesla b. fill in : Professor Reginald Fessenden

We could fill in both ,but this we find here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Fessenden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Fessenden)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on May 29, 2021, 08:05:48 PM

Quote from: Leely on May 29, 2021, 05:01:09 AM
Based on what I have said so far, I have ascertained that tito seems to have used the earth ground and an antenna to amplify.
There is something I want to add here based on my thinking. I once read that morray used a small battery and a buzzerlike component in his device. In other words, he used a battery to start the device. He did not just collect power from antenna and earth ground to start amplifying. He may have used an earth ground and antenna to amplify. Some publications mislead us, while some publications guide us well.

https://www.britannica.com/technology/electric-generator/Permanent-magnet-generators (https://www.britannica.com/technology/electric-generator/Permanent-magnet-generators)

An induction generator cannot normally provide an independent electrical power source because it does not contain a source of its own magnetic field.
Stand-alone induction generators can, however, operate with the aid of appropriate loading capacitors.

Induction generators are frequently preferred over synchronous generators for small hydroelectric sites because they are not subject to loss of synchronism following transient (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transient) changes in the power system

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stivep on May 31, 2021, 01:49:58 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on May 28, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
http://realstrannik.ru/forum/77-temy-ot-fantom/135067-tankodrom.html?start=252#259200 (http://realstrannik.ru/forum/77-temy-ot-fantom/135067-tankodrom.html?start=252#259200)
Electrons ... electrons ... don't bother.
Take a ferromagnetic bar with two windings, stick magnets on the sides so that the bar enters
saturation. We feed the emf in the direction in such a way that the current creates a magnetic field opposite to the
field of magnets and core. In this case, the primary has an inductive resistance, in which it occurs
a voltage drop, or rather voltage radiation to space. Space responds: its voltage is already
"precipitated, trapped", induced in the secondary, a current arises. The secondary current will create a magnetic field
co-directional with the field of magnets and core. This means that there is no inductive resistance for the secondary current.
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We send the secondary in its entirety. Whatever the current in the secondary, for the primary, the inductive resistance as it was,- it will continue to be so. Magnets and core - medium, voltage primary - space activator (modulator), secondary - drain. Too simple, and therefore it does not fit in the head. But for this to work, you need a small shamanic tambourine, you need to hit it once to "enchant" the core.
related " ..... of which two components (e.g. A and C) have been interchanged or replaced by false components ....." ?

What are Ferromagnetic materials?
answer:
Those substances known as Ferromagnetic materials which when placed in the external magnetic field are strongly magnetized in the direction of external magnetic field
Thank you lankaIV
1. Example of Ferromagnetic materials are - iron, cobalt, nickel, gadolinium, dysprosium.
https://www.phybarik.com/2020/06/what-are-ferromagnetic-materials.html (https://www.phybarik.com/2020/06/what-are-ferromagnetic-materials.html)
_{Note: article written in "not so good" English}

2. lankaIV's link of Russian Realstrannik is from May 28.
today in May 31 this link doesn't work and that part of conversation there was deleted .
It only tells how fast Russians can spot Westerners paying attention to their writing.
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For me the phrase is absolutely convoluted and some of readers may assign it to BS.
The good thing is that nonsense triggers thinkers to act.
In the world of physics phrase:

Quote from: lancaIV on May 28, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
Space responds: its voltage is already
"precipitated, trapped",

is likely an opinion of some average Russian car mechanic about quantum mechanics.
- property of "space" in unknown .
- interaction with that "space" is unknown.
- and form of response of that "space" is unknown
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Here you have forces in ferromagnetic material.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Geometry-and-orientation-of-the-ferromagnetic-bar-on-the-Si-substrate_fig2_224143586 (https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Geometry-and-orientation-of-the-ferromagnetic-bar-on-the-Si-substrate_fig2_224143586)
But interesting is that right below of it you can see statement saying that
primary source was likely Russian Volodymyr Zagorodnii
_{Addition:
I was able to establish that Volodymyr Zagorodnii is legitimate researcher.
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-024-1687-9_6 (https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-024-1687-9_6)}

Some basic information is here:
https://www.intechopen.com/books/ferromagnetic-resonance-theory-and-applications/ferromagnetic-resonance (https://www.intechopen.com/books/ferromagnetic-resonance-theory-and-applications/ferromagnetic-resonance)

QuoteWe developed a method to analyze broad-band ferromagnetic resonance (FMR)
data for rectangular ferromagnetic bars of micron and sub-micron thicknesses.
This method allows one to determine the gyro-magnetic ratio,
the saturation magnetization, and the damping constant of the measured structures

The problem we are facing when dealing with information is legitimacy.
And you are my friends in the position of assigning given information source to garbage or see value in it.

But for thinkers the biggest BS' may become valuable trigger for thinking.
like one here:
https://www.phybarik.com/2020/06/what-are-ferromagnetic-materials.html (https://www.phybarik.com/2020/06/what-are-ferromagnetic-materials.html)
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What I was thinking about is not ferrite but ferrofluid in glass capsule and windings around it in presence of the bar magnets from the both ends.?
You can see in your own eyes the response of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrofluid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrofluid)

Wesley

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on June 01, 2021, 08:34:41 AM

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Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 01, 2021, 08:51:53 AM

nix85,not disturbing Your new topic ,current amplification related,

https://control.com/textbook/ac-electricity/phasors/ (https://control.com/textbook/ac-electricity/phasors/)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_displacement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_displacement)

For fishing in the Moray or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_sea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_sea)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_harmonic_oscillator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_harmonic_oscillator)

Energy and/or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_energy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_energy) ampification

negative energy f.e. as positron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeman_effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeman_effect)

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir-Effekt (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir-Effekt)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_materials (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_materials) the zT

by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resistivity_and_conductivity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resistivity_and_conductivity)

by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity)

and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seebeck_coefficient (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seebeck_coefficient)

and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature)

all EE ,rotative or non-motive,conceptions are Maxwell/Carnot engines !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi%E2%80%93Dirac_statistics#Fermi.E2.80.93Dirac_distribution

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on June 01, 2021, 10:09:40 AM

Lanca if you got got a comment on parallel RLC current amplification
post it in my thread, not here

https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stivep on June 01, 2021, 10:52:00 AM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 01, 2021, 08:51:53 AM
nix85,not disturbing Your new topic ,current amplification related,
https://control.com/textbook/ac-electricity/phasors/ (https://control.com/textbook/ac-electricity/phasors/)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_displacement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_displacement)
For fishing in the Moray or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_sea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_sea)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_harmonic_oscillator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_harmonic_oscillator)
Energy and/or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_energy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_energy) ampification
negative energy f.e. as positron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeman_effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeman_effect)
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir-Effekt (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir-Effekt)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_materials (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_materials) the zT
by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resistivity_and_conductivity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resistivity_and_conductivity)
by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity)
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seebeck_coefficient (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seebeck_coefficient)
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature)
all EE ,rotative or non-motive,conceptions are Maxwell/Carnot engines !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi%E2%80%93Dirac_statistics#Fermi.E2.80.93Dirac_distribution (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi%E2%80%93Dirac_statistics#Fermi.E2.80.93Dirac_distribution)

I don't know who you are lankaIV but I'm impressed with your work.
I do really thank you for that.
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You are disorganized , You are taking to much space for your posts,
and yes you are... you are one of the beautiful minds,
frustrating me, unstable, crazy , chaotic but beautiful. -who the heck you are man?
I spoke to Chet telling him that your contribution to this forum is in its net value absolutely unique in positive way.

_________________________________
It is sometime difficult for me to identify what you trying to question or support or deny but in one particular link of yours
I thought that you may try to defend Ether, as _{ever present ocean of energy} with its local internal fluctuations and that would be somehow in line with
Dirac Sea. _{"of particles"}

Let me joke a little here?
Quantum mechanics prefers:
-empties having some particles
instead of
-Dirac Sea where the US dollars as a sea or pile are covering you totally in the infinite space
where one dollar or one particle less or more will never make any difference to you...

in the field of modern Aesthetics, emptiness is understood better:
-1 central figure like President , King, Tzar and nobody alike in near space.( all others are small in background)
-1 distinct speaker in the TV studio .( all others are small in background)
-Empty room with one bee making sound is easily spotted.
-modern houses with hanging shelves, elevated cabinets and empty floor that makes it look optically bigger.
-big car is big for the driver based on his empty space in it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesthetics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesthetics)

So when talking about Dirac Sea replaced by Quantum Physics it is
Quantum that wants to know what is in that empty space.
And because quantum Physics works perfect in other areas - classical physics degradation to a branch of it
was natural consequence of humanity correcting its own practical, scientific and aesthetically pleasant position.

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Some quotes from your link:

QuoteDirac sea theory treats antimatter as a hole where there is the absence of a particle rather than as a real particle. Quantum field theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_field_theory) (QFT),
developed in the 1930s, deals with antimatter in a way that treats antimatter as made of real particles rather than the absence of particles,
and treats a vacuum as being empty of particles rather than full of negative-energy particles like in the Dirac sea theory.
Quantum field theory has displaced the Dirac sea theory as a more popular explanation of these aspects of physics.
Both the Dirac sea theory and quantum field theory are equivalent by means of a Bogoliubov transformation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogoliubov_transformation),
so the Dirac sea can be viewed as an alternative formulation of quantum field theory, and is thus consistent with it.^{[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_energy#cite_note-6)}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_sea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_sea)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_energy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_energy)
The last link is important as it explains also at its lower portion a lot of important terms:
Virtual particles
Casimir effect
Dirac sea
Quantum gravity phenomena
Hawking radiation
Black hole ergosphere and quasars
Wormholes
Warp drive
Antimatter
Dark energy
Dark matter
Exotic matter
Negative mass
Pressure § Negative pressures
Wesley

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on June 01, 2021, 10:58:12 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aharonov%E2%80%93Bohm_effect

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 01, 2021, 11:54:58 AM

Quote from: nix85 on June 01, 2021, 10:09:40 AM
Lanca if you got got a comment on parallel RLC current amplification
post it in my thread, not here

https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl)

Okay ! :)

wmbr

OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 01, 2021, 12:07:36 PM

What I was thinking about is not ferrite but ferrofluid in glass capsule and windings around it in presence of the bar magnets from the both ends.? You can see in your own eyes the response of it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrofluid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrofluid)

For ? F.e. :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=US&NR=2848748A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19580826&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=US&NR=2848748A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19580826&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

Instead ferrit/ferro copper ?

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19970417&CC=DE&NR=19539391A1&KC=A1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19970417&CC=DE&NR=19539391A1&KC=A1)

http://www.rexresearch.com/callahan/callahan.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/callahan/callahan.htm) ::) http://www.rexresearch.com/callahan/rock%20dust%20_%20paramagnetism.pdf (http://www.rexresearch.com/callahan/rock%20dust%20_%20paramagnetism.pdf)

ferromagnetism,di-a-magnetism,paramagnetism
https://de.scribd.com/presentation/438768692/magnetic-properties-pptx (https://de.scribd.com/presentation/438768692/magnetic-properties-pptx)

Hmm,ferrofluid or ferromagnetic fluid ?

ferro-/ferrit particle in oil

room temperature liquid metal f.e. mercury

specific melt temperature liquid metal ?

water,as half-metal ?

E.M.D. and E.H.D. and M.H.D.

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=70&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860625&CC=ZA&NR=848762B&KC=B (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=70&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860625&CC=ZA&NR=848762B&KC=B)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=63&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19840125&CC=EP&NR=0098897A2&KC=A2 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=63&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19840125&CC=EP&NR=0098897A2&KC=A2)

I did by the Branover search seeing this ,but did not read the content,will do it later ! Probably interestant !

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=64&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20090603&CC=CN&NR=101449446A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=64&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20090603&CC=CN&NR=101449446A&KC=A)

First reaction : http://www.rexresearch.com/dardikcf/superwave.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/dardikcf/superwave.htm)

and combination :

+ https://overunity.com/18815/has-anyone-here-constructed-an-overunity-system-that-works/285/ (https://overunity.com/18815/has-anyone-here-constructed-an-overunity-system-that-works/285/) #294

Newton (and Goethe) light spectrum science) + A+K-ode to transistor and "Superwave" :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=paul+heinrich+marzahn&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=paul+heinrich+marzahn&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)

Sincere

OCWL

p.s.: who the heck you are man? Ein Mensch der deutsch denkt,ALT-DEUTSCH,mit allen Hoehen und Tiefen

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on June 01, 2021, 12:38:46 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 01, 2021, 12:07:36 PM
What I was thinking about is not ferrite but ferrofluid in glass capsule and windings around it in presence of the bar magnets from the both ends.? You can see in your own eyes the response of it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferroflui (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrofluid)

OCWL

LancaIV, this thing you posted about bar magnets on the sides of a metal bar, is there any other metal readily available other than metglass that shows any sign of amplification in that orientation? For me, I can't say if I know of any, yet.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on June 01, 2021, 12:43:03 PM

Quote from: lancaIV on June 01, 2021, 11:54:58 AM

Okay ! :)

wmbr

OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 01, 2021, 12:47:53 PM

Quote from: Leely on June 01, 2021, 12:38:46 PM
LancaIV, this thing you posted about bar magnets on the sides of a metal bar, is there any other metal readily available other than metglass that shows any sign of amplification in that orientation? For me, I can't say if I know of any, yet.

This sentences are from member Wesley/stivep his poste #8815 !

I will think about Your question and will then give answer !

Adeus

OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: stivep on June 01, 2021, 01:26:44 PM

You need to understand that there is no any real amplification existing anywhere if energy that is used for "amplification" is not present.
-signal amplification uses more energy that summary energy of the signal and its amplified level.
-horn is not amplifying the gramophone sound but is just sending it in one direction and that what looks like amplification
is just the difference between coherent isotropic and directed anisotropic directional effect.
the same is with you talking to the pipe and listener listening from the other end of it.
However resonance matters.
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-07/996421645.Ph.r.html (http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-07/996421645.Ph.r.html)
https://www.quora.com/How-does-a-cone-amplify-sound (https://www.quora.com/How-does-a-cone-amplify-sound)

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For unconvinced there is set of questions:
how does sound get amplified when passed through a cone?
where does the extra energy come from?
What about hollow objects like a box guitar?
how do they amplify sound?
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-07/996421645.Ph.q.html (http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-07/996421645.Ph.q.html)

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So in any possible classical mechanic or quantum mechanic phenomena the effect is always
smaller than summary amount of energy used to achieve it.
Directional antenna Yagi having in dB gain of 15 dB is not gaining anything at all.
It is just taking the same energy from Tx that could be connected to e.g omnidirectional antenna.
The difference between the two is that:
-YAGI SENDS THIS ENERGY in one direction only.
- omnidirectional antenna sends 1/360ties of Tx energy in the same direction.

Yes you gain in dollars walking home instead of taking taxi,
but you losing on energy of your body.

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So why we are talking about Free Energy?
Because we don't care who pays for that energy as long as we get some of it for free.
So any device and every device must use its energy to couple to someone-else energy.
example is a pipe with water.
_{if that pipe is connected to the river and your energy is just used to open the valve than you have Kapanadze device.
In energy extraction from Schumann waveguide nature pays for energy and its delivery and you are only the "valve opener"

So looking for energy amplification you need to know that none of it exist in net value.
it is not important if you use metaglass or anything else.}

Wesley

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 01, 2021, 01:37:48 PM

Excuse-moi, "energy livre ": free Voltage/tension

free Voltage-h + free Amperage-h = VAh

syntax !

like the often power instead energy or vice-versa termination use error !

Salute

OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Leely on June 01, 2021, 02:38:25 PM

Quote from: stivep on June 01, 2021, 01:26:44 PM
You need to understand that there is no any real amplification existing anywhere if energy that is used for "amplification" is not present.
-signal amplification uses more energy that summary energy of the signal and its amplified level....
_{So looking for energy amplification you need to know that none of it exist in net value.
it is not important if you use metaglass or anything else.}

Wesley

Yeah, I still see it this way. There are stored energies which we may term as artificial, and there are natural energies which we see as abundant. The artificial or stored energies has lifetime, it has expiring date. I still believe that metglas, when used in an amplification mode has expiring date, it only depends how long.
I always have this weird feeling when I'm trying to build an earth based free energy machine, as if the oil companies will come after me. Was my mind playing games with me. When I try to build the ones that don't use the ground for amplification, I feel better.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on June 01, 2021, 03:06:14 PM

Leely,this all makes part from appropriate R&D about periodic/permanent moving devices and their maintenance :
coils are given 80 000 hours work life( 1 year = 8766 hours !)
permanent magnets (without extrem demagnitization cases like abnormal heat/Barkhausen et cet.):
by Arpad Boday to read up to "1000 years" RE-magnets
bears : 10v6 revolutions,SKF reference ( seems much but by 3000/6000 RPM and 1 year = 8766x60 RM if permanent "relativ" )

Transformer core : rust risc

free energy is never technical meaned as " eternal converting/generating device/machine " !
As decay sources these devices exist ! Thermoelectric battery/generator

And we have to plan with inexhaustable materials and production capacity and the people their average skills to construct,to montage together or to repair and changing friction parts without commercial on-profit service !
For many actually it is in rural zones a day-by-day problem to get for conventional machines spare parts,when the next greater city with electric devices repair shop is 50/100 and more Kms away and no/bad traffic routes !

And does new production from older models exist ? 3D reprint ?
How work the old car owner in Kuba to organize spare parts for 30' 40' 50' models !?

For the Upper 10 000 to build the OU-machine is not a need,for the nether billions an simple OU-machine the solution for water getting ( pump),light,fridge/freezer as most important application !

But they can also live with non-em-OU technologie ! Pure mechanical thermo-cryo-dynamic cycle !
Solar freezer( zeolith or active carbon),light pipe( bottle),hydro-ram-pump, ......

Sincere
OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: arhitrade on September 22, 2021, 11:20:12 AM

Parametric resonance (https://gorchilin.com/articles/parametric/parametric_resonance_2?lang=en) as an energy amplifier.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Floor on September 22, 2021, 03:50:26 PM

1. Resonaces can combine in either a destructive or an additive manner, or, they can
combine, alternating, over time, between a destructive or an additive manner of
combining.

Given that the frequency, speed, and amplitude of two waves are identical.

When two waves arrive at a same location, all or some of, their wave peaks and wave troughs
may be aligned.

When a wave peak of one wave, is perfectly aligned with a wave trough of the other wave,
the waves cancel each other.
Examples:
Two persons whip a jump rope, each from the opposite end of the rope.
When a wave sent down the rope encounters a wave from the other end,
A. If a trough encounters a peak the rope falls to the ground.
B. If either, two peaks or two troughs meat, the rope motion expands. Either toward
the ground or away from it.

2. Resonaces can be present within a medium and have what is essentially
no interaction.
Examples:
A. Turning up brightness of the light in a theater, neither measurably diminishes nor
increases the loudness of the sounds coming from the stage.
B. Changing the color of the light in a theater, neither measurably raises nor lowers
the pitch of the sounds coming from the stage.

3. A given frequency can interact with a given body to cause other frequencies to
emerge from that body.
Example:
A. infra red light frequency can be absorbed into an object and transform into the
frequencies at which molecules can resonate (infra red energy becomes kinetic / heat energy).
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Wave resonations (echos), within a body can combine with each other (constructively and or
destructively).
Wave resonations (echos) within a body can combine with additional waves entering that body
(constructively and or destructively).

When wave troughs of two different frequencies combine, a third frequency emerges at
a lower frequency than either of the two original frequencies. That third frequency can
itself, sometimes resonate (echo) within that body.

Complexes of frequency interactions can combine to cause, low frequency but very
large peak and trough waves. The size of these waves can match / harmonize / resonate
in a size (peaks and troughs, amplitude) which we would recognize as / see as physical motions.

That high amplitude low frequency wave may again be harmonic to some aspect or scale of the
body they are interacting within (echo).

Bridge and building collapses can occur. But there is no more energy present than was put in.
It seem to me that there is no excess of energy available from resonant phenomena itself,
nor from "energy amplification".

4. But some additional and/or other form of energy might be shaken out of a body due to
resonance.
Example:
4 A. Some specific chemical reactions, like burning, require energy input as a frequency
which we recognize as heat, before they will occur.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on September 22, 2021, 04:20:34 PM

I guess this is a good place to remind energy of a wave (any wave) is amplitude squared, when you add two same waves together amplitude becomes double, guess what happens to energy.

For more "Violation of the Law of Energy Conservation in Wave Fields" by Janos Vajda.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Floor on September 22, 2021, 07:13:55 PM

The energy of a mechanical wave depends on both, its amplitude and its frequency.

If we consider the kinetic energy contained in one wave length (peak to peak),
(of a given amplitude) as a discrete packet of energy, a higher frequency wave will
deliver more of these packets per unit of time than a lower frequency wave (of that
same given amplitude). Each packet contains the same amount of energy but more
power is present (average energy per unit of time)
but also
If we consider the kinetic energy contained in one wave length of a given amplitude
as a discrete packet of energy, a higher amplitude wave will deliver more energy per
unit of time than a lower amplitude wave of the same frequency.

The average rate of energy transfer in mechanical waves is proportional to either
the square of the amplitude, or the square of the frequency.
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
If two mechanical waves have equal amplitudes, but one wave has a frequency of twice the
frequency of the other wave, the higher frequency wave can transfer energy four times greater,
in a given interval of time, than the lower frequency wave can.
and...
If two mechanical waves have equal frequencies, but one wave has an amplitude of twice the
amplitude of the other, the higher amplitude wave can transfer energy four times greater,
in a given interval of time, than the lower amplitude wave can.

Unless...
One simultaneously decreases the other factor by one half.

Double the frequency but cut in half the amplitude, or, double the amplitude and cut
the frequency in half.

But keep in mind that, otherwise ....
It requires 4 times the energy INPUT to create a wave of double the amplitude,
if the frequency remains the same.
and
It requires 4 times the energy INPUT to create a wave of double the frequency,
if the amplitude remains the same.
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Much of the above, applies only to mechanical waves and not to electromagnetic
forms of energy.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on September 22, 2021, 09:09:00 PM

Of course higher the frequency higher the energy, this is perfectly assumed, photon energy being frequency times Planck constant.

Point being that two waves of any same frequency when superimposed will produce a wave of x4 the energy content, that is, x2 the overall energy of the two waves combined.

For example if 2 waves have amplitudes of 2 and each energy of 4, when superimposed amplitude of the new wave is 4 and energy is 16.

This has already been discussed here in 2016.

https://overunity.com/16698/free-energy-from-electromagnetic-wave-fields/

And back in 2007.

https://overunity.com/3068/the-return-of-the-hungarian-free-energy-from-wave-fields/#.V3P-dU-uAtU

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Floor on September 23, 2021, 03:00:23 AM

It may be that I am misinformed. I am not an expert on this subject.

My previous explanations are as I have understood some of the basics
of wave interactions.

There is a similar set of physical relationships in regard to mass, energy and
acceleration.

kinetic energy = 1/2 times mass times velocity squared.

A 1 kilogram mass moving at a speed of 1 meter per second has 1/2
joule of kinetic energy in its momentum.
1/2 x 1 kg x 1m/s^2 = .............. 1/2 joule of kinetic energy

A 1 kilogram mass moving at a speed of 2 meters per second (twice the speed)
has 2 joules of kinetic energy in its momentum.
1/2 x 1 kg x 2m/s^2 = ............... 2 joules of kinetic energy

Only twice the speed, but 4 times the energy content (2 is 4 times greater than 1/2).

This is not free energy, because it requires 4 times as much energy input, to accelerate
from at rest, a 1 kg mass to a speed of 2 meters per second, than is required to accelerate
a 1 kg mass from at rest, to a speed of 1 meter per second.

best wishes
floor

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on September 23, 2021, 05:16:14 AM

Just like centrifugal force is mass velocity squared over r etc.

Quote
This is not free energy, because it requires 4 times as much energy input, to accelerate
from at rest, a 1 kg mass to a speed of 2 meters per second, than is required to accelerate
a 1 kg mass from at rest, to a speed of 1 meter per second.

You keep missing the point mixing apples and oranges. Kinetic energy is not the same as wave superposition. Two masses of 1kg moving at 2 m/s when joined together will become one 2kg mass moving at 2m/s, energy has not changed. It is still 2 x 2² that is 8.

This is obviously cause for kinetic energy speed is squared and for speed to change you need additional energy.

But for waves AMPLITUDE is squared and for that you don't need additional energy.

For waves 1+1=4

------------------------------

Vajda's paper conclusion

8. Conclusions and arising questions

The analysis and calculation results according to the previous chapters unambiguously prove that the law of energy conservation is not generally valid for the resultant field of coherent spherical electromagnetic waves (radiation) with identical frequency, since an excess- or deficiency of energy can also appear, compared to the total radiated energy, the magnitude of which depends on the parameters and geometrical position of the radiating sources. In the case of incoherent radiation (with different frequencies) the law of energy conservation will be satisfied also only, if it is valid for each radiation source separately. These declarations are valid not exclusively for spherical waves, but also for cylindrical waves and moreover for waves in general. By summarizing it conclusively we can declare as a fact, that the law of energy conservation is not generally valid – but only in special cases – for the energy propagation in space (as radiation) in the form of waves, concerning the resultant energy of the waves. Here under waves we should understand them to be not exclusively electromagnetic waves.

Further questions arising in connection with the violation of the law of energy conservation

When the necessary conditions are satisfied, where does the excess of energy come from, compared to the energy fed into the system; and in the case of energy deficiency, into what does the energy gets transformed into (or where does it disappear to)? Since the discovery of the antiparticles it is a known fact, that when a particle is united with its pair of antiparticle, then its rest mass disappears and their mass-energy (in quantum form) will be transformed into electromagnetic radiant energy. The question is whether this process is reversible, and if (under certain conditions) yes, then whether the excess of radiant energy can result in excess of particles and/or antiparticles. Namely whether an excess of mass or mass-energy can be created? Or whether the mentioned energy deficiency can be compensated by the rise of mass energy? Based on the analogy of matter and antimatter, can there be energy and anti-energy? If anti-energy does exist, then how can it be interpreted? As a conclusion we can only say briefly, that the violability of the law of energy conservation – besides its practical applicability – can hopefully represent a more generalized interpretation of the classical nuclear-physics, as well as of our knowledge about the universe, especially by answering the above questions.

Budapest
28 January 1998
János Vajda

-----------------------

But as Zephir says in 2016 thread:

"But it also means, that if we put a light impulse between two parallel mirrors, i.e. the resonator, then the energy should attenuate (he meant amplify) itself during each reflection followed with constructive interference ad infinitum. Which is apparently what doesn't happen there."

True, that is, we don't usually see this effect in reflected light, why. As Vajda says energy can be more or LESS, depending on various factors.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Floor on September 23, 2021, 10:24:06 AM

partial quote

Quote from: nix85 on September 23, 2021, 05:16:14 AM
You keep missing the point mixing apples and oranges. Kinetic energy is not the same as wave superposition. Two masses of 1kg moving at 2 m/s when joined together will become one 2kg mass moving at 2m/s, energy has not changed. It is still 2 x 2² that is 8.

!. first... ! did not say that kinetic energy is the same as wave superposition.
But you say I did ?

I said "There is a similar set of physical relationships in regard to mass, energy and
acceleration."

2. Wave superposition @
https://www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/Demos/superposition/superposition.html

3. nix85 quote "Two masses of 1kg moving at 2 m/s when joined together will become
one 2kg mass moving at 2m/s, energy has not changed. It is still 2 x 2² that is 8."

Surly 2 x 2^2 = 8, but that is not the equation for kinetic energy.

The kinetic energy of an object due to its motion is

1/2 times its mass times its velocity squared.
or
Ek = 1/2 mv2

1/2 x 2 kg x 2m/s2 = 4 joules

That is 4 joules not 8 joules.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on September 23, 2021, 10:37:00 AM

Quote from: Floor on September 23, 2021, 10:24:06 AM
partial quote
!. first... ! did not say that kinetic energy is the same as wave superposition.
But you say I did ?

I said "There is a similar set of physical relationships in regard to mass, energy and
acceleration."

2. Wave superposition @
https://www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/Demos/superposition/superposition.html

3. "Two masses of 1kg moving at 2 m/s when joined together will become one 2kg mass
moving at 2m/s, energy has not changed. It is still 2 x 2² that is 8."

Surly 2 x 2^2 = 8, but that is not the equation for kinetic energy.

The kinetic energy of an object due to its motion is

1/2 times its mass times its velocity squared.
or
Ek = 1/2 mv2

1/2 x 2 kg x 2m/s2 = 4 joules

That is 4 joules not 8 joules.

1) You are again missing the point and mixing apples and pears. You indeed said ""There is a similar set of physical relationships in regard to mass, energy and acceleration." and then you went on to conclude "This is not free energy"... So what. What has that to do with wave superposition, nothing.

2) We all know what wave superposition is

3) Oh my. Again grabbing onto irrelevant. Of course there is that 1/2 in front just like it is in formula for energy in a capacitor or inductor.

energy stored in an inductor E = LI²/2
energy stored in an cap E = 1/2 QV = Q²/2C = CV²/2

That 1/2 is not really 1/2, it is approximation/assumption of losses and that is irreleavant here. Whole kinetic energy parallel is irrelevant.

Point is energy of a wave is amplitude squared..

"The energy transported by a wave is directly proportional to the square of the amplitude. So whatever change occurs in the amplitude, the square of that effect impacts the energy. This means that a doubling of the amplitude results in a quadrupling of the energy."

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Floor on September 23, 2021, 10:43:20 AM

Bull Shit

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on September 23, 2021, 10:47:03 AM

HA!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on September 23, 2021, 10:53:44 AM

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OCWL

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on September 23, 2021, 11:01:58 AM

"Because free space is isotropic and lossess, the E and H fields are perpendicular to each other and are in phase. If the wave is in a lossy medium, E and H will be out of phase, although usually the phase difference is very small. If the medium is anisotropic, E and H will not necessarily be perpendicular to each other, although they likely be very close to being perpendicular."

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Floor on September 23, 2021, 11:19:01 AM

You nix85, are the one mixing apple with oranges here. You are confused.

You write 2 x 2^2 = 8. Your words are meaningless, incomplete jibberish.
So what 2 x 2^2 = 8
2 of what ? x 2^2 of what ? = 8 of what ?

In fact the phrase "energy amplification" its self , doesn't make sense.

Do you really think that two waves from opposite ends of a jump rope, constructively meeting
at is center contains more than the sum of the energy of the two waves separately ?
If not, what is your point here ?
I'll stand by every thing I have said here. Will you?

I did not say that kinetic energy is the same as wave superposition.
But you said I did.
Did you not ?

Nice links Lanka

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on September 23, 2021, 11:40:15 AM

No, Floor, you are mixing apples with oranges here and you are confused.

Quote

You write 2 x 2^2 = 8. Your words are meaningless, incomplete jibberish.
So what 2 x 2^2 = 8
2 of what ? x 2^2 of what ? = 8 of what ?

2kg x 4m/s = 8J all is perfectly clear and assumed. Units and 1/2 don't matter, we are looking for proportionality and clearly joining two masses traveling at same speed does not increase the kinetic energy anymore than energy of the two masses individually and thus that comparison is irrelevant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy#Newtonian_kinetic_energy

Yet when it comes to waves things are different since doubling of amplitude quadruples the energy. I am not claiming this, this is a well known and accepted formula. You wanna say the formula is wrong?

Energy amplification does make sense, we are living in an open system.

Dr. Vajda explained this theoretically and experimentally. Need i also mention Don Smith and others.

BTW i had a pdf few years ago of a russian study which confirmed Vajda's superposition OU principle. I don't have it any more but i am sure someone on this forum does.

It may have been Gennadiy Vasilevich Nikolaev, he's been mentioned here.
https://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/1665/

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on September 23, 2021, 12:13:09 PM

(Chill)
I heared from somewhere about a behaviour named ' gentleman's agreement ' !I do not really know from where !? ::)
But let us go ,virtually,entering :britannica and read about 'matter' !
matter ,materia(l) and ,together with energy,....
anti-matter
anti-energy
Quark
Anti-Quark

Now silently departing
OCWL

p.s.: - or + ,ccw or cw,(pro-) or anti - left or right,above or below,super or sub

attraction is stronger in force than repulsion ( JLNLabs experiments) or vice- versa ?
ccw energie as same in force units as cw energy ?
on Earth super-aequatorial/sub-aequatorial line dependent ?
North-/South-hemisphere and Coriolisforce-and direction as comparison-' object' ?

Coanda,Flettner,Meissner(-Ochsenfeld Effect,also in supra-conduction to see )

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on September 23, 2021, 12:52:33 PM

There are streams of subtle matter swirling around earth, these are the source OU devices tap into.

"The main etheric flows in the temperate zones run from west to east, and in the equator, the main flow is from east to west. There are large differences in temperate zone etheric densities and response times compared to (faster) equator. The west to east flow of ether in the northern hemisphere is strongest at full moon, and weakest at new moon. There is also south to north terrestrial flow of ether in the northern hemisphere spring and summer, and in the winter this flow reverses. The west to east flow and the south to north flow are separate functions of the ether, but to some degree they mutually influence each other."

Constable, Trevor J. 1990. Etheric Rain Engineering

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Floor on September 23, 2021, 01:12:58 PM

nix85 quote
"2kg x 4m/s = 8kJ all is perfectly clear and assumed. Units don't even matter as long as they are on same scale (kg vs m/s etc) nor does 1/2, proportionality does. Since you grab onto irrelevant, i'll state the obvious that using the 1/2 OBVIOUSLY the result is 4kJ (not J as you wrote)."
end of nix85 quote

Wikipedia quote
"For example, one would calculate the kinetic energy of an 80 kg mass (about 180 lbs)
traveling at 18 meters per second (about 40 mph, or 65 km/h) as Ek = 1/2 • 80 • (18m/s)^2
= 12960 J = 12.96 kJ "
end of wikipedia quote

1/2 x 80 = 40
18^2 = 324
40 x 324 = 12960 joules... and not kilojoules
.. ... ... ... ...
nix85 quote
"2kg x 4m/s = 8kJ all is perfectly clear and assumed."
end of nix85 quote

wrong
a 2kg mass moving at 4m/s velocity has
16 j of kinetic energy and NO not 8kj

1/2 x 2kg x 4m/s^2

1/2 x 2 kg = 1
4m/s2 = 16
1 x 16 = 16 j

nix85 quote
"Units don't even matter as long as they are on same scale (kg vs m/s etc) nor
does 1/2, proportionality does."

Your statement doesn't even make sense.

... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Some times posts from a word processor don't transcribe correctly to an O.U post.

Example: exponets may be missing or show up on the posts in a normal font position
insted of as a superscript.

Get some sleep.

I'm out of here
peace out
floor

PS
thank you
LankIV

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on September 23, 2021, 02:26:41 PM

HA! I wrote that in a rush and corrected it immediately, I KNEW you're gonna grab onto that like a desperate dog. Especially considering you replied 1 hour and a half after the correction has been made. :) Pathetic.

"Your statement doesn't even make sense."

It would make sense to you if you had brains. We are talking energy gain in superposition of waves. You brought up the kinetic energy comparison where no such gain even theoretically occurs. Units and the 1/2 factor do not matter in this context. What matters is that kinetic energy of two masses before and after they are added together is exactly the same. Thus parallel is nonsensical.

Yet based on it you conclude "This is not free energy" :) Genius

"Get some sleep"

HA! You get some sleep and some new brains.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on September 23, 2021, 04:17:08 PM

Here is a quote from George Van Tassel's book When stars look down about German study which apparently verified the Earth grid. Grid is mentioned in many alternative sources, occult, contactee, NDE cases etc. Also reminds me Ed Leedskalnin moved his whole Coral Castle, i can't remember the exact quote but it had something to do with the grid, new location was apparently more susceptible to degravitation.

"Rock Gate Park, as Edward Leedskalnin called the place, began construction originally in Florida City around 1923. In 1936, Edward began a three year move of his structure about 10 miles (16 km) north to its current location in Homestead, Florida, at the intersection of U.S. 1 (South Dixie Highway) and Southwest 157th Ave. He continued its construction in the new location until his death in 1951."

From When stars look down:

A book, published in the German language, in Innsbruck, Austria in
1952, explains the findings of outstanding researchers into the earths
power grid system. The title of this book is "The World of the Secret
Forces." In German, "Die Welt Der Geheimen Machte."

The men involved are Dr. Willi Schlosser, Prof. Hellmut Wolff,
Hans-Wilhelm Smolik, Heinrich Reblitz, Theodor Weimann, Herbert
A. Lohlein, Ferdinand Reich, Univ. Prof. Dr. Hubert J. Urban, Dir.
Prof. Dr. K. Saller, Prof. Dr. Georg Anschutz, Prof. Dr. Theol and
Adolf Koberle. Quite an impressive group of qualified professional
people, to agree, and be involved in one book. They established that
the earth is covered on the surface by a grid system of positive and
negative poles in a checkerboard pattern.

Excerpts from the book are as follows:

"Each of the squares has a center pole surrounded by 8 smaller poles.
(Here again is the Chinese Cosmic Flower, the Hubbard Coils, the
Tesla System of extracting energy from the earth. Ed.)

These squares vary in size from the equator, getting smaller in the
direction of the earths poles. The main pole concentrates energy. At
North Latitude 48° (The latitude where these men conducted their
research. Ed.) the center pole has a diameter of 2.45 meters. The 8
smaller poles have a diameter of 60 c.m. Four of the 8 outer poles
(alternately) send energy up toward the sky. The other four send
energy outward horizontally to North, South, East and West.

The squares (48° N. Latitude) are 15.90 meters diagonally from
center to center poles.

N/sinus 45° = 15.9/0.707 = 22.5 meters

A border field is mingled together in the Northwest and Southeast
directions and in the Southwest and Northeast directions, These 4 cor-
ners of the squares seem to connect the fields of 2 of the negative
smaller poles and two of the positive smaller poles.

At these points any person (or body) will receive a mixture of nega-
tive and positive energies.

The side length measurements at the equator are 32 meters long. It
was found out that the earth between its North and South Poles was a
"stick" magnet. On this magnetic field there are electric currents per-
pendicular to the "stick" magnet.

Strange to say that the Cheops pyramid on the 30° North latitude,
stands on a diagonal measurement of the pole field of 30 meters on
each side of the squares.

The main center poles of each positive square shows a direction of
energy from above to below the earths surface. There a vortex is cre-
ated with a pulse like the hand of a clock. The negative poles are vice
versa.

Dr. Rohracher, of the University of Vienna made a very sensitive
electro-magnetic tuning fork (The Hendershot device also has a mag-
netic tuning fork. Ed.) that showed from 7 to 18 movements per sec-
ond. Prof. Dr. Regelsberger made an electrometer which showed
electric impulses of 10 millionth of an amp.

Dr. Muller, from Zurich, Switzerland, measured the electric field on
the human body. The body "aura" will change if you move into a dif-
ferent location.

This means the magnetic or electric field of the earth is different.

The 'dowsing rod' can locate the center of these positive and nega-
tive poles. These measurements should be made with different lengths
of 'dowsing rods. The length gives different wave length readings.

The point you find with the rod is a knot of a free standing wave.
- (We call this energy point a 'time zone' or 'this other energy.' It is not
magnetic, or electric. Hieronymous calls it 'Eloptic Energy.' Ed.)

The 'aura' of the human body will be charged on all positive polarity
pole centers and it will discharge the human 'aura' on all negative
poles until no aura is registered. This is how one can register whether
the poles are positive, or negative.

These experiments are physiologically and psychologically of the
greatest importance to health. Whoever goes into the secret of the
earths ray powers will know the wheel of destiny.

These powers are free, not the power from our power plants. These
in and out powers have to do with the human organism. The trouble
zones and health zones have to do with the movement of the planets
and stars. In the micro-cosmos it (the earth) is the electron that is in `
the command of our creator. (What a statement to come from these
distinguished men. Ed.)

This is the pattern of the secret of creation and this is why the
Chinese speak of the secret of the golden blossom.

It is well known that there are rows of cancer houses in certain
towns and most of these inhabitants are dying of this terrible sickness.
The dowsers have proven that the bedrooms of cancer patients are on
the grid crossings of the trouble zones.

Waldemar V. Jankowsky wrote about the cancer problem and said
the light quantum and the Pi-electron are the cause. The dowsers
proved these trouble zones are in the positive fields. Frh. V. Pohl wrote;
'earth beams are sickness exciters. We could find the positive fields by
experiments? `

The places of the negative polar fields shows entirely different effects
on the human organism. Now here is an entirely new field for search-
ing doctors who are interested in the world of fine beams. Through
this effect the life span of the human can be changed." (This verifies
what we are trying to do with the "Integratron" machine. Ed.)

Captain Bruce Cathie's two books "Harmonic 33" and "Harmonic
695" seem to follow a pattern "township" grid composed of many of
the smaller grids like "sections."

It is strange that the German material and Cathies grids coincide on
the great pyramid, and other points on the earths surface. These re-
searches conducted years apart and on opposite sides of the globe tend
to verify each other.

The fact that microwave transmissions, and receptions, are being
carried on through the earths surface by coordinating resonance at
different points, is proof that secret scientific people are already aware
of the great potentials of the grid system for power, navigation, and
antigravity directional control.

Baxter's research with plants; the Hieronymous research with insects;
research into bio-transducers by L. George Laurence; Kirlian photo-
graphy; acupuncture, and numerous other aspects are verifying each
other.

In the "Proceedings" of November 1953, on page five we explained
the "earths force field." Four years later science verified this and called
it the "Van Allen Radiation Belt." In the 1953 article we printed: "this
ring maintains balanced interchange of power through the crust and
atmosphere of this planet."

In the Septémber-October 1965 issue of the "Proceedings," on page
4, we wrote up the earth forces in an article titled, "This Amazing
Armature." In the 1965 article we said, ^There are other fields in the
earths bulk that are not measurable with a magnetic instrument such
as a compass. These fields, and currents are the carriers and distributors

of what we call 'life force.' This 'life force' is only measurable and de-
tectable through 'living' instruments and it is also subject to thought."

If people knew they were living in a positive square on the earth they
would move, or be subject to the physical ailments caused by it.

This article could go on indefinitely, because there is not enough re-
search going on for the benefit of people, and too much going on for
their detriment.

Mrs. Ford, the Presidents wife, and Mrs. Rockefeller, having to suffer
the conditions of breast cancer surgery, is proof that the detrimental
forces can affect people in the highest positions in life.

It looks like the government would appropriate more money to study
these forces and subsidize those people who are already involved in the
research into this "life force."

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Floor on September 23, 2021, 04:20:10 PM

To magnify an object through a glass lens, does not increase the size
of that object. It creates an image of that object on a larger scale.

Amplifying a sound by means of an electronic amplifier does not increase the
loudness of the input sound. Not even a tiny little bit.

The electronics create an image (a copy) of the input sound and broad casts
that REPLICA at a louder volume than was input.

Amplification of that sound requires additional energy input. In this case, one definitly
does not get more out than one has put in.

It seem apparent that amplification is not what many people think it is.

Others on this topic have as much as said these same things.
see post @
https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg558155/#msg558155

In fact the phrase "energy amplification" its self
doesn't make sense.

What would be the benefit of expending energy to make an image of some form of
energy and how would that be possible any way. Its silly.
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I repeat my questions.
1. Do you really think that two waves from opposite ends of a jump rope, constructively meeting
at is center contains more than the sum of the energy of the two waves separately ?

2. If not, what is your point here ?

3. I'll stand by every thing I have said here. Will you?

4. I did not say that kinetic energy is the same as wave superposition.
But you said I did.
Did you not ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on September 23, 2021, 05:05:59 PM

Everyone here understands the meaning of signal amplification, active amplification as with audio amp or passive as with a cone focusing energy in one direction.

Everyone also understands we are not talking about that kind of amplification but amplification of energy, creating a sink for the ambient energy which is perceived as overunity but is not much different than a solar panel or a wind generator just working with subtler energy forms.

So energy amplification is not 'silly', you are just misinterpreting things, pushing the false idea that you can't get more energy from the ambient than you put in.

To answer your questions.

1) I don't claim anything black and white, i discuss, as others discussed this topic here (linked on previous page). Vajda clearly says in his paper both energy gain and loss may be achieved. Formula for wave energy says double the amplitude quadrupole the energy. Vajda claims to have confirmed this, Don Smith and others too. So, it is not a question if it is possible, but rather a question of how to explain it. And i prefer to explain it in terms of creating a sink (term Tesla used) for the ambient energy.

2) I just stated it.

3) I stand by every thing I said here and elsewhere. You stick to silly you can't get more out idea. If you were right Don Smith's devices, TPU and all other similar devices would not work. But they do. Will you stick with your claim despite all these devices that prove you wrong? Maybe you claim all these people are hoaxers. I wonder what are you even doing on overunity forum then.

4) You said "similar set of physical relationships" for kinetic energy and superposition of waves, how is it similar if there is no predicted gain of energy. It's not similar. Adding two waves together does not require additional energy but increasing the velocity (squared factor in kinetic energy formula) does. Apples and oranges.

All this being said, have you even opened and studied Vajda's paper? I doubt you did. You just stick to your skeptical view instead of digging into it. But reality of things is not on your side.

Don Smith's demonstration 1996

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSU5_E1V0f4

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on September 23, 2021, 06:52:53 PM

Floor

QuoteIn fact the phrase "energy amplification" its self doesn't make sense.

I would agree, amplification means to amplify ie. the act of expanding or increasing something.

However energy is not "something" only a measure of the "quantity of something". For example electrical power is measured in watts but energy in watt-seconds. We cannot "amplify" a watt-second otherwise it wouldn't be a watt-second because it would have more energy.

Unfortunately the majority of people may understand power but the concept of energy completely baffles them. I have a friend who is an electrical engineer who couldn't even give me a coherent explanation for what energy is. However it's not anyone's fault but more so a flawed educational system which describes things so poorly they make no sense.

The key thing to remember is that a measure like force, distance, time, power or energy is not something in itself only a measure of something.

Here is a good way to look at energy...
Energy is a measure of the capacity of something to perform work, work is the measure of a force acting on something causing it to move a distance, thus energy is a measure of the motion of something on some level.

So when we add energy to something what were really saying is that we have added more motion to something on some level. This is also why we can use Joules as a measure for many different things. There is an equivalent between heat(molecular motion), watts (electron-proton motion) and work(physical motion). It is the "measure of the motion of something" as energy which ties everything together.

In short physicists just say "the universe is energy" because everything in it is already in motion on some level. There could be countless forms of motion on an unknown number of levels however the measure of the motion of something is always referred to as energy.

Regards
AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Floor on September 23, 2021, 07:28:33 PM

@nix85

I don't object at all....
to the exploration of alternative energy devices,
energy from the ambient, zero point energy, magnets, gravity,
what ever, you name it.

Problem is you put words in my mouth.
Problem is, you called me "dog".
Problem is you insinuate and / or out right accuse me of pushing false ideas and so on.

Problem is now, for you, to decide if you want to do some thing more constructive.
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@ All readers

In quotation marks are nix85 comments (through out this post).

"Everyone here understands the meaning signal of amplification,"

First off, YOU don't speak for every one here.
You got that ?
But also. no, they don't ALL understand.
Apparently you don't understand either.

"be it active amplification as with audio amp or passive as with a cone focusing energy in one direction."

Using a cone to focus energy in one direction
is not amplification, period.
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"Everyone also understands we are not talking about that kind of amplification but amplification of energy,"

Again you think you speak for everyone, do you?

"That kind" of amplification is called... amplification.
There is no such, other kind, of amplification, as energy amplification or other wise.
The only kind of amplification there is... is active amplification.
Use of the phrase by you is an oxmoron, a contradiction in terms.

"Everyone also understands we are not talking about that kind of amplification but amplification of energy, creating a sink for the ambient energy which is perceived as overunity but is not much different than a solar panel or a wind generator just working with subtler energy forms."

So ...
"we are talking about" we ?
No. You are talking about "a kind of amplification".
A kind of amplification that doesn't exist, and its application
in "creating a sink for ambient energy".

By the way and again, I have no problem with people exploring
ambient, alternative or "overunity" energy sources
despite the things you have said and implied of me.
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"So energy amplification is not 'silly', you are just misinterpreting things, pushing the false idea that you can't get more energy from the ambient than you put in."

"So energy amplification is not 'silly"
Disagree.
"you are just misinterpreting things, pushing the false idea that you can't get more energy from the ambient than you put in."

There you go...
accusing some one of wrong doing
putting words into an others mouth again.
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I repeated my questions.
1. Do you really think that two waves from opposite ends of a jump rope, constructively meeting
at is center contains more than the sum of the energy of the two waves separately ?

your response

"1) I don't claim anything black and white, i discuss, as others discussed this topic here (linked on previous page). Vajda clearly says in his paper both energy gain and loss may be achieved. Formula for wave energy says double the amplitude quadrupole the energy. Vajda claims to have confirmed this, Don Smith and others too. So, it is not a question if it is possible, but rather a question of how to explain it. And i prefer to explain it in terms of creating a sink (term Tesla used) for the ambient energy."

nix85 quote
"I don't claim anything black and white"
nix85 quote

Simple direct question but no answer from you,
and then you try to hide behind something "Vajda clearly says"
and "Vajda claims" and the reputations of Tesla and DonSmith.

floor

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on September 23, 2021, 09:50:59 PM

I don't put words in your mouth, you did compare apples and oranges.

I did not call you a dog, i wrote "like a dog". Learn the difference.

Yea you push false ideas, you took a clear side that superposition of waves cannot give energy gain.

If i want to do something constructive? Oh the irony. Unlike you, i share valuable info pretty much all the time. What did you share except useless dramas and skepticism.

Of course i speak for everyone. Everyone knows what amplification is in conventional sense and the difference from energy amplification in OU sense.

"Apparently you don't understand either."

Ha! We can talk ABCD classes of amps, or common emitter/collector/base conf., or difference in gain bypass cap makes... or can you.

"Using a cone to focus energy in one direction is not amplification, period."

"Amplify" does NOT have to mean that output energy has increased. It can and does mean energy has increased in particular direction.

Focusing energy in one direction is amplifying it for that direction at the expense of all others. And it's not just focusing, it is also matching impedance improving transfer of energy.

(Not even gonna get into possible overunity effects of soundwave superposition).

"Acoustic horns are found in nature in the form of the burrows constructed by male mole crickets to amplify their song."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horn_(acoustic)

A megaphone, speaking-trumpet, bullhorn, blowhorn, or loudhailer is usually a portable or hand-held, cone-shaped acoustic horn used to amplify a person's voice or other sounds and direct it in a given direction.

[...]

There have been references to speakers in Ancient Greece (5th Century B.C.) wearing masks with cones protruding from the mouth in order to amplify their voices in theatres.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone

QuoteAgain you think you speak for everyone, do you?

You think there is a person on this forum who doesn't understand the difference between an audio amplifier and overunity device.

Energy amplification is a perfectly valid term making a distinction between conventional amplification and amplification using ambient as a battery. There is no oxymoron or contradiction of any kind, you are creating them by useless semantic disputes.

Quoteaccusing some one of wrong doing
putting words into an others mouth again.

Oh what a drama queen you are. I am not accusing nor putting anything. Again, you claim there is no energy gain in superposition of waves. You don't know this so don't push false claims.

QuoteSimple direct question but no answer from you,
and then you try to hide behind something "Vajda clearly says"
and "Vajda claims" and the reputations of Tesla and DonSmith.

More silliness. I am not "trying to hide" behind anyone. The debate on this topic has been open on this forum since 2007 and no one conclusively proved or disproved it. So of course i don't claim anything 100% regarding this particular idea by itself. However when superposition of waves, that is, resonance is used in systems ala Don Smith where induction is done lenzlessly, then all limits are off.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on September 23, 2021, 11:36:20 PM

SO WATTS PER SECOND YEAH. AMPLIFICATION OF ENERGY IS POSSIBLE.
SO WHICH HAS MORE POWER A SINE WAVE OF 100 V RMS AT 1 AMP AT 100HZ
OR A SINE WAVE OF 100V RMS AT 1 AMP AT 100KZ?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Floor on September 24, 2021, 01:57:26 AM

nix85 quote
"I guess this is a good place to remind energy of a wave (any wave) is amplitude squared, when you add two same waves together amplitude becomes double, guess what happens to energy. "
end of nix85 quote

the amplitude of wave 1 = 10
therefore
the energy of wave 1 = 100

amplitude of wave 2 = 10
therefore
energy of wave 2 = 100
their sum is
100 + 100 = 200
But
combined constructively the amplitude is now 20
and the energy of a wave is its amplitude squared
20^2 = 400
Ah ha proof that there is now 4 x the energy not just 2 x
and that would be amazing, but....

https://pressbooks.online.ucf.edu/algphysics/chapter/energy-in-waves-intensity/

The amount of energy in a wave is related to its amplitude. Large-amplitude earthquakes produce large ground displacements. Loud sounds have higher pressure amplitudes and come from larger-amplitude source vibrations than soft sounds. Large ocean breakers churn up the shore more than small ones. More quantitatively, a wave is a displacement that is resisted by a restoring force. The larger the displacement x, the larger the force F = kx needed to create it. Because work W is related to force multiplied by distance (Fx) and energy is put into the wave by the work done to create it, the energy in a wave is related to amplitude. In fact, a wave's energy is directly proportional to its amplitude squared because W ∝ Fx = kx2.
The energy effects of a wave depend on time as well as amplitude. For example, the longer deep-heat ultrasound is applied, the more energy it transfers. Waves can also be concentrated or spread out. Sunlight, for example, can be focused to burn wood. Earthquakes spread out, so they do less damage the farther they get from the source. In both cases, changing the area the waves cover has important effects. All these pertinent factors are included in the definition of intensity I as power per unit area: I=PA
, where P is the power carried by the wave through area A. The definition of intensity is valid for any energy in transit, including that carried by waves. The SI unit for intensity is watts per square meter (W/m2). For example, infrared and visible energy from the Sun impinge on Earth at an intensity of 1300 W/m2 just above the atmosphere. There are other intensity-related units in use, too. The most common is the decibel. For example, a 90 decibel sound level corresponds to an intensity of 10−3 W/m2. (This quantity is not much power per unit area considering that 90 decibels is a relatively high sound level. Decibels will be discussed in some detail in a later chapter.

We know from Chapter 16.10 Superposition and Interference that when two identical waves, which have equal amplitudes X, interfere perfectly constructively, the resulting wave has an amplitude of 2X. Because a wave's intensity is proportional to amplitude squared, the intensity of the resulting wave is four times as great as in the individual waves.

Figure 2. These stereo speakers produce both constructive interference and destructive interference in the room, a property common to the superposition of all types of waves. The shading is proportional to
The intensity of a wave is not the same as the total energy content of that wave.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Floor on September 24, 2021, 02:00:28 AM

intensity.
The intensity goes up by a factor of 4 when the amplitude doubles. This answer is a little disquieting. The two individual waves each have intensities of 1.00 W/m2, yet their sum has an intensity of 4.00 W/m2, which may appear to violate conservation of energy. This violation, of course, cannot happen. What does happen is intriguing. The area over which the intensity is 4.00 W/m2 is much less than the area covered by the two waves before they interfered. There are other areas where the intensity is zero. The addition of waves is not as simple as our first look in Superposition and Interference suggested. We actually get a pattern of both constructive interference and destructive interference whenever two waves are added. For example, if we have two stereo speakers putting out 1.00 W/m2 each, there will be places in the room where the intensity is 4.00 W/m2, other places where the intensity is zero, and others in between. Figure 2 shows what this interference might look like. We will pursue interference patterns elsewhere in this text.

Figure 2. These stereo speakers produce both constructive interference and destructive interference in the room, a property common to the superposition of all types of waves. The shading is proportional to intensity.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on September 24, 2021, 02:33:42 AM

is the magnetic field force 4 times in an opposing magnetic field?
HENCE MAGNETIC FORCE AMPLIFICATION.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Floor on September 24, 2021, 02:35:41 AM

@nix85

This is what I said in my first post to this topic
https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg560459/#msg560459

On the one hand you say 4 x energy is there simply because two waves combine constructively etcetera... here @ https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg560460/#msg560460

My second post was a continuation of my first post.
https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg560459/#msg560459

In a later post, you contradict your self and say

"Everyone also understands we are not talking about that kind of amplification but amplification
of energy, creating a sink for the ambient energy which is perceived as overunity but is not much different than a solar panel or a wind generator just working with subtler energy forms."

This last one, in which you contradict your self, I can find some reason to agree with.
In fact it is similar to the last things I said in my second post.

again @ https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg560460/#msg560460

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: seychelles on September 24, 2021, 02:37:11 AM

A VERY SIMPLE ELECTRONIC CIRCUIT THAT PROVES THAT IS DOCTOR
STIFFLER CIRCUIT.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on September 24, 2021, 07:18:31 AM

Quote from: Floor on September 24, 2021, 02:35:41 AM
@nix85

In a later post, you contradict your self and say

"Everyone also understands we are not talking about that kind of amplification but amplification of energy, creating a sink for the ambient energy which is perceived as overunity but is not much different than a solar panel or a wind generator just working with subtler energy forms."

I wonder if you are playing dumb or. Nothing in the sentence above contradicts anything i said before it. ALL i say is making a distinction between conventional 'active amplification' ala using amp and a battery and energy amplification doing the same thing but using the ambient as a 'battery'. Needles to say there are also 'passive' OU devices like Markovich's ATREE or Schwartz's 'neutrino rod' etc, no active components of any kind, just a properly made resistor/convertor of etheric energy into electricity.

QuoteThe intensity goes up by a factor of 4 when the amplitude doubles. This answer is a little disquieting. The two individual waves each have intensities of 1.00 W/m2, yet their sum has an intensity of 4.00 W/m2, which may appear to violate conservation of energy. This violation, of course, cannot happen. What does happen is intriguing. The area over which the intensity is 4.00 W/m2 is much less than the area covered by the two waves before they interfered. There are other areas where the intensity is zero.

Directional sources at 90°. How is that comparable to Vajda's two 360° sources.

In the paper he first elaborates how Maxwell's equations allow for excess energy generation. Then he calculates various configurations for underunity, unity and overunity. Max overunity i see is 48% energy gain.

"It can be seen further, that in the case of antennas placed directly above each other, fed with identical phase, the excess power is ~48%."

https://feprinciples.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/energy_from_wave_fields_1-21.pdf

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: lancaIV on September 24, 2021, 08:16:51 AM

Die Gedankenwelt der Mengenlehre , https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mengenlehre (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mengenlehre)

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mengenlehre (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mengenlehre)

What would be,if "nix85" is right and "floor" half-right but also "floor" is right and "nix85" half-right ?

https://feprinciples.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/energy_from_wave_fields_1-21.pdf (https://feprinciples.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/energy_from_wave_fields_1-21.pdf)

https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/dlattach/attach/183060/image// (https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/dlattach/attach/183060/image//)
the same "image" with 90° displacement, 2 stars vertical to "two stars horizontal" !? two points of view,orthogonal

Psycho-logics :

seeing a "Pokal/Calice"( white background ,black or ..... ,not white coloured object "Pokal") or two faces,face-by-face,or/and ?!

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschachtest (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschachtest)
A-/Symmetry ( Ab-/normality !? Un-/Common !? )

https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/dlattach/attach/183060/image// (https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/dlattach/attach/183060/image//)
What could we see, a. vertical,90° displaced,horizontal : 2d or 3d !?

serious : a coil (compared the "ROLAMITE",..... ) serie,the 2 "stars" in an conserve "dose",......

re-/search has ART(brainstorming and designing,it was .... it will be .... Retro-/Per-spectrum) and its PROVOKE included

"infantil/unartig" ( an karikatur alien,stars = 2 eyes in an helmet,sleeping ? below the two stars an half-moon horizontal, with positive or negative placement ......)

Astro-Physics (Ultra-Schall/ultra-sonics) : Doppler-Effect

Doppler-machine :
cases : 1x or 2 foetus/foeten to "see" imaginative 2D or "real 3D ",m or f or m and f or f and f or m and m or Drillinge,Vierlinge,.... their sexus and evolution stage (normal or abnormal)

https://www.babelli.de/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/10-ssw-ultraschallbild-2-300x300.jpg.webp (https://www.babelli.de/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/10-ssw-ultraschallbild-2-300x300.jpg.webp)

Classical to Quantum Physics : DUALITAET, particle-wave or particle + wave ,internal/external shockwaves

from the above Mengenlehre/set theory description :
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Venn0110.svg/220px-Venn0110.svg.png (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Venn0110.svg/220px-Venn0110.svg.png)
In-/Formation ( 1d to 2d to 3d to 4d )

Attention and caution : danger,the influence from the "neuronal aggressive" colour red !
from the left to the right side,slowly looking
from the right to the left side,slowly looking

sequencional changes to in serie completting : https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daumenkino (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daumenkino)

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Floor on September 24, 2021, 08:43:29 AM

@nix85
cool

best wishes
floor

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: nix85 on September 24, 2021, 09:58:45 AM

"Cool" HA.

May future tell, altho past already has.

Best wishes too.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 05, 2022, 10:24:13 PM

JT
CLosed Loop
Zener
Secondary

Thoughts?

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on June 06, 2022, 07:33:16 AM

Are you all serious on this thread ? if not could you possably mark the bits where i should laugh or cry, many thanks

In the mean time here is a link to an energy gain circuit, or what lookes like one to me over on youtube.

> ENERGÍA FRÍA DEMOSTRACIÓN < i'm sure you can find it, with your skills.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=ENERG%C3%8DA+FR%C3%8DA+DEMOSTRACI%C3%93N&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4TKsmqWN9ek
Sil

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: forest on June 06, 2022, 11:09:11 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on June 05, 2022, 10:24:13 PM
JT
CLosed Loop
Zener
Secondary

Thoughts?

My thoughs:

JT
HV capacitor
Closed loop
Closed loop
Ground

high voltage is absolutely needed or you kill momentum by resistance/
Energy amplification is what Tesla patented as method of conversion. The base for all his devices

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 07, 2022, 09:56:14 PM

Quote from: AlienGrey on June 06, 2022, 07:33:16 AM
Are you all serious on this thread ? if not could you possably mark the bits where i should laugh or cry, many thanks

In the mean time here is a link to an energy gain circuit, or what lookes like one to me over on youtube.

> ENERGÍA FRÍA DEMOSTRACIÓN < i'm sure you can find it, with your skills.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=ENERG%C3%8DA+FR%C3%8DA+DEMOSTRACI%C3%93N&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4TKsmqWN9ek (https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=ENERG%C3%8DA+FR%C3%8DA+DEMOSTRACI%C3%93N&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4TKsmqWN9ek)
Sil

Thanks for the reply AG
I'm fluent in Spanish, so I was able to understand where he was going with his setup. I think there are some common elements in his setup with what I'm suggesting.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 07, 2022, 10:03:12 PM

Quote from: forest on June 06, 2022, 11:09:11 AM

My thoughs:

JT
HV capacitor
Closed loop
Closed loop
Ground

high voltage is absolutely needed or you kill momentum by resistance/
Energy amplification is what Tesla patented as method of conversion. The base for all his devices

Thanks for the reply, Forest
I guess it would take a while to get the capacitor up to full charge with the JT. But once you're there, I can see there would be quite a momentum leaving it. Kind of reminds me of Don Smith's work with the HV cap to coil(s) and ground.
Regards,
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on June 11, 2022, 08:32:42 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on June 07, 2022, 10:03:12 PM
Thanks for the reply, Forest
I guess it would take a while to get the capacitor up to full charge with the JT. But once you're there, I can see there would be quite a momentum leaving it. Kind of reminds me of Don Smith's work with the HV cap to coil(s) and ground.
Regards,
Bob

Bob
Look Bob some guy who use to frequent these pages named Nelson showed on his youtube pages
how to do what your asking about amplification, just generating high voltage at high current isn't it!
all he did was to generate high voltage at low current and then add a low voltage high current to it.
So as both wave forms coincide.
Can i suggest you look into that trick to exploit.

Sil

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: NickZ on June 11, 2022, 09:41:34 AM

AG: Get it through your head that Nelson does not have FE on any of his devices. No self running, just efficient use of the energy from the battery. That's all. Waste all the time you need...that is all we've ever had. Wasted time, and not a single FE device.
So why do you want to continue with this run around, if you really want to get somewhere? You won't find it here, nor will any one else. This thread is as useless as all the rest.

NickZ

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: AlienGrey on June 11, 2022, 01:37:08 PM

Ha, ha, carfuly chosen words by Nelson, if you excelerate electrons use a tesla coil.

Unless you play the game you will never get your device to work

Have you tride removing that iron from inside your grenade and putting

baking foil up its bum the full length but not a shorted turn and tuning it correctly ?

if you dont want to bother your on your own.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on June 12, 2022, 06:48:38 PM

Quote from: AlienGrey on June 11, 2022, 08:32:42 AM
Bob
Look Bob some guy who use to frequent these pages named Nelson showed on his youtube pages
how to do what your asking about amplification, just generating high voltage at high current isn't it!
all he did was to generate high voltage at low current and then add a low voltage high current to it.
So as both wave forms coincide.
Can i suggest you look into that trick to exploit.
Sil

Thanks Sil!

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Bob Smith on February 09, 2023, 04:36:51 PM

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 22, 2013, 03:37:01 AM

The automatic successive kick started from the small kick is the way to be. ;)

JUST DO IT!!! :)
IT SHOULD BE SMALL kick then it kick->KICK
KICK. 8)

OTITS ;D

It just struck me, BEMF, not just ringing down.
Hope you're well, Teets.
Bob

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: Cadman on February 10, 2023, 09:40:04 AM

Quote from: Bob Smith on February 09, 2023, 04:36:51 PM
It just struck me, BEMF, not just ringing down.
Hope you're well, Teets.
Bob

Bob,

Think self induced voltage and charges from flyback by collapsing magnetic field.

Edit. This is not a working circuit. It's for basic concept only.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: onepower on February 11, 2023, 11:33:02 AM

AlienGray

From Nelson Rocha May 30 2020.

QuoteI could tell you that the last replication i did in Germany of this system, was evaluated by two external entities, where one of them reached at a value close to COP 3, but what difference would it make me to promote or speculate about that result to only catch people attention ?
I do not live on external profits or donations , I have my work and I do that by pleasure.

Nelson was a smart guy and knew if he made an outright FE claim the trolls and paid shills would be all over him. Nelson had the reserved attitude of a seasoned FE inventor who gets results unlike some others and there drama.

QuoteENERGÍA FRÍA DEMOSTRACIÓN < i'm sure you can find it, with your skills.
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=ENERG%C3%8DA+FR%C3%8DA+DEMOSTRACI%C3%93N&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4TKsmqWN9ek

I like this guy, Jose Caltum https://www.youtube.com/@josecaltum/videos. He looks like the classic FE inventor. He's older, he has the look, methodical tone of voice, plaid shirt with bonus sweater, messy bench but not too messy-- just right. Look at all the stuff in the background and he probably has many projects on the go. More important he's old school concentrating on only the basics to prove an effect. No more, no less than required moving forward in a methodical manner. Looks like he has 7 years of video's but probably decades of time spent at the bench.

Based on his prior video's I would say there's a very good chance he's onto something.

AC

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: fuzzb3k on July 29, 2023, 05:56:12 AM

Hi folks,

I've spent more time than I care to remember going over this thread. I've also gone through all of Tito's posts scattered over various other threads and collated them in chronological order. I've attached this file to my message, just in case it's helpful to anyone. A lot of people thought he was being a master LARPer or spreading BS and being deliberately obtuse, but I saw through that and had a gut feeling that the tips he had cryptically shared all seemed to have some element of the truth about them

I then thought long and hard about each one of them to see how they might help in the quest for overunity.

This is one of the tips where he suggests there might be some gain when charging caps in parallel and discharging them sequentially (note: not in series).

Quotea parallel then switch to serie connection makes an amplification then a sudden discharge into a big thick wire makes a strong magnetic field.Now did you get something amazing in there?

Quotea matter of series and parallel connection will solve your problem ok its an elementary technique

QuoteIf I recall from memory your text, it was: you start out from a 12V battery and charge up say 10 capacitors in parallel, then you discharge the 10 capacitors in series. And you wrote the effect is a 'surprise' or something similar.

Quotefor example we have 12v bat and three capacitor, you charge them in parallel then discharge them in series is a very big difference isn't it. :) ;) 8)

Quotecan we not charge in an instant in parallel more than 2 caps?, then discharge it very very fast in a separate series connection in a (cascade coil) and produce lots of energy?. is that very hard to make buddy?, and that is very obvious that we can produce lots of excess of energy isn't it?.do you know the reason why very very fast?. now, that is overkill. :D

I put together this infographic to explain what I'm thinking.

(https://i.ibb.co/7p15b0F/Capacitor-charge-and-discharge-chart-with-method-to-extract-max-power.png) (https://ibb.co/qgrfx2w)

Basically, if you charge caps in parallel then this obviously requires enough energy to charge them from 0 to 99.9%. If you then take, say, 10 caps and loop through them one by one, discharging for an amount of time equating to roughly 0.1t (remember t=RC), then in theory the cap will only lose a small amount of charge but the amount of power discharged will be maximum (max volts & max amps). At the output you will end up with DC with a spikey ripple.

One way that I can think of how this can be achieved is to have a PWM output from an Arduino which is a single pulse with configurable duty cycle and frequency. This pulse goes into a Johnson Decade Counter (decoded) which has 10 individual outputs. The logic input of a MOSFET gate driver would be connected to each output, and you'd then have the gate driver controlling a MOSFET. So you'd have 10 gate drivers and 10 MOSFETs. The decade counter would iterate over each output, triggering each one in sequence. At the end of the sequence it would repeat ad infinitum. The MOSFET would discharge a capacitor into the primary of an output transformer. The output of the secondary would be rectified using a full wave bridge rectifier, smoothed with a DC cap and then that would be your output. You could then invert it using MOSFETs or IGBTs etc. if you wanted AC output.

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: fuzzb3k on July 29, 2023, 06:45:19 AM

Here's a simulation of what I described above: https://tinyurl.com/26z5syqm

Title: Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
Post by: fuzzb3k on July 29, 2023, 07:03:28 AM

Another thing that I looked into was the LM78xx series voltage regulators, following Tito's tips on this subject matter.

Quotesee if those words are coil connected to an antenna of different frqs then we have lots of energy. 7805 is really good in current amplification isn't it?

Quotedid you not yet study about 7805-24 chips, on how to amplify current using this chips?.

And now the real secret i am is hiding is the technique of amplifying at the same time the current and voltage ok! at least i am saying it to all of you ok! understand? ;D

Quoteone thing more i used 78XX sometimes as amplifier also. ;)

Quote78xx is really a good source of current. ;)

QuoteYa, i think i just made an improvement? or a variation in ossie's design by eliminating one switch, and added up some secondaries in ossie's series coils then connecting them parallel to add more extra juice. simple but effective.hmmmm ;D of course we can add a lot of transistors in 7812 setup as current amplifier in the secondaries hmmmmmmm!.

I took a look at the spec. sheets and also searched for any unusual applications of these devices. The series includes the following models: LM7805 (5V), LM7806 (6V), LM7809 (9V), LM7812 (12V), LM7815 (15V), LM7824 (24V).

Absolute Maximum Input Voltage: 35V

Recommended Operating Conditions
-Input Voltage: Minimum 7V, Maximum 25V
-Output Current: 1.5A

The IC has 3 pins: input, ground & output. Input should be between output +2V and 35V. Output is ground +5V (LM7805) to ground +24V (LM7824).

Output current equals input current when the IC is cooled sufficiently. If it overheats then the output current will drop.

You can also configure them as constant current sources.

Tito's tips suggest that they can be used as current amplifiers in some fashion. I guess this will be either using them as constant current sources or to increase the voltage by biasing the ground to be something other than 0V, so that the output voltage is increased compared to 0V ground. There should also be some sort of recursive arrangement to boost current and/or voltage and then loop back round so that they are increased incrementally over several cycles.

I'm still mulling over the exact arrangement that might be useful.

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