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Title: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: giolvasrulez on February 28, 2009, 12:50:56 PM
The following image is from a text...

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/31/oea.jpg

That claims that you can produce continuous for ever electromagnetic micropower of cosmic radiation by placing a magnet between a chargeless capacitor.

The magnet must be oriented as follows:
magnet "N"="Notos"="South Magnet Pole" must face to the Earth's North Pole and "B"="Boras"="North Magnet Pole" must face to the Earth's South pole.

Any tests and ideas?
Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: amigo on February 28, 2009, 06:18:52 PM
I would think that any kind of a magnetic field could influence that setup and ruin it, if correct orientation of the magnet in it is a must.

Since it is micro power I suppose you would need thousands of small cells like that, and as I wrote above, some kind of magnetic shielding for the whole unit so it is not affected by external fields.

All in theory, who knows if that setup really does something or not... :)
Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on February 28, 2009, 07:57:54 PM

Any more info on this...seems it may be compatible with the joule thief.

Regards...

Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: Bob Smith on March 01, 2009, 12:17:02 AM
Interesting diagram, and simple idea. If there's a 90 degree relationship between magnetic flux lines and electrical charge, then perhaps this would make sense. There  also seems to be a parallel in this case with the earth battery, and its functioning being contingent on having been lined up with the earth's poles.
Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: giolvasrulez on March 01, 2009, 04:51:40 AM
Thank you for answers.

No, unfortunatelly I don't have more info on this, just the diagram and the claim, that was made by a man that have studied mechanical and electrical engineering so I suppose he must have knowhow of fundamental science..

I have tried to test it by placing a neomagnet between 2 iron plates and paper as a dielectric between the magnet surface and the plates.
I oriented it aproximately as the text claims and in other ways but I couldn't get voltage in any way.

What is the "joule thief" and why is it compatible with this?



Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on March 01, 2009, 06:44:09 AM

A Joule thief is an interesting little collection of components which makes use of very little voltage in a big way.

Read all about it on this thread...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.new;topicseen#new

Regards...

Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: Steven Dufresne on March 01, 2009, 08:54:32 AM
Perhaps this was what he was doing:
http://www.cheniere.org/misc/static%20poynting%20gen.htm
with the alignment with the Earth poles necessary to unbalance something or align with something.

@giolvasrulez,
Did you precharge your iron plates first? The diagram in the first post shows one plate is negative and the other is positive. In other words, put everything together as it should be and then use a separate power supply to charge the plates. Of course, you'd think that once you try to connect in order to take energy off then plates would quickly neutralize.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org
Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: giolvasrulez on March 01, 2009, 10:13:42 AM
No, I didn't precharge, because the text was clear about it when talking about a discharged capacitor (not charged)

Nevertheless I am trying right now to charge the capacitor and I will post the result.
Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: giolvasrulez on March 01, 2009, 12:35:35 PM
no success. :(
Have anyone got any power from the similar T. Bearden or my configuration?
Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: Bob Smith on March 01, 2009, 01:07:01 PM
I tried this with neos and a ceramic magnet, without success.  Pre-charging the plates seems to make sense in terms of not destroying the dipole. Gotta head out for the afternoon, but thought I'd throw out this suggestion: hook a lead from a D Cell battery's negative terminal to the negative plate, and one from the positive of another battery to the positive plate.  I'll try it when I get home.
Bob
Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: Yucca on March 01, 2009, 02:33:39 PM
It might be good to put the cap plates accross the input pins of an OpAmp configured for very high gain, and then use the OpAmp to drive the multimeter. The device and OpAmp would need to be placed in a fine faradic cage, one that would allow earth flux to penetrate but not EM interference.
Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: Steven Dufresne on March 01, 2009, 06:46:27 PM
Quote from: giolvasrulez on March 01, 2009, 10:13:42 AM
No, I didn't precharge, because the text was clear about it when talking about a discharged capacitor (not charged)

Nevertheless I am trying right now to charge the capacitor and I will post the result.

Your original post above also said "chargeless". Guess I favoured the diagram. Thanks for trying.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org
Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: Bob Smith on March 01, 2009, 08:58:56 PM
Quotethought I'd throw out this suggestion: hook a lead from a D Cell battery's negative terminal to the negative plate, and one from the positive of another battery to the positive plate.  I'll try it when I get home.
Bob

Tried this arrangement without a compass, with some very minor voltage increase in the cap. Will try again with the compass and different caps, neo positions in the next couple of days. I used a 1000uf 50V electrolytic cap with arrangement as quoted above, stack of neos pointing roughly north ahead of, but between 2 terminals.
Bob
Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: giolvasrulez on March 24, 2009, 01:34:29 PM
to Bob Smith: Have you achieved anything yet?
Can you post a picture of your arrangement?
Thank you.
Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: Michelinho on March 24, 2009, 05:06:20 PM
Hi all,

Why not surround the neo magnet with plexiglass and an aluminium plate on each side like in the Testatica with the plexi blocks between the "U" shaped magnets? Plexi is a static electricity attractor.

http://predmet.ru/rasnoe/%D2%E5%F1%F2%E0%F2%E8%EA%E0/Free%20Electric%20Power1/FEEE/ (http://predmet.ru/rasnoe/%D2%E5%F1%F2%E0%F2%E8%EA%E0/Free%20Electric%20Power1/FEEE/)

Take care,

Michel

Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: Bob Smith on March 24, 2009, 09:51:07 PM
Quoteto Bob Smith: Have you achieved anything yet?
Can you post a picture of your arrangement?
Thank you.

@giolvasrulez:  I did try this out with two new 1.5V D size batteries. Here's what I did:

Attached a 5mm diameter (2.5 mm thick) cylindrical neo magnet to positive end of new D size battery,  attached one clip of a black jump cable to the neo (on positive terminal), attached the other end (clip) onto the positive leg of a 50V 1000uF electrolytic cap.

Attached neo to negative end of D size battery with red jumper wire clipped to the negative terminal neo, and other end of jumper wire clipped to negative leg of same cap.

Placed a stack of same cylindrical neos approx. 20mm ahead of splayed legs of cap on a glass table, with stack of neos pointing north.

The cap slowly built up a charge, and I think after 3 days it was at about 75mV.  Not much juice.  I got busy, and had to clean up the livingroom table, as my wife was getting home from being out of the country :o), and put the setup away.  Sorry I didn't respond earlier. 

I still think there's something to be harnessed here. I've just been swamped at work, and had to put some things aside for awhile.  My reasoning with this particular setup is based on some of Bearden's comments about leaving the dipole open.  I also considered the setup for Lee Crock's energy cleaner that can be found here: http://www.keelynet.com/biology/crock.htm .  Somehow, it seems that he's utilizing a powerful kind of energy (splitting the positive? or perhaps some kind aetheric coherence?) with this kind of setup, which leaves the dipole open.  From what I understand, an electrolytic cap can convert this kind of aetheric energy into electrical charge under the proper conditions. 

I liked Michelinho's idea of trying plexi glass, and his making connections with the Testatika.  Perhaps if we can brainstorm a bit and try a few things while drawing info from different alt energy setups, we may come up with something.  I don't have a lot of time to put into this right now, but will try to follow along, and if I'm able to do something, will keep the group informed.
Thanks for following up with me.
Bob
Title: Re: Continuous for ever microenergy from special oriented magnet-capacitor
Post by: hansvonlieven on March 24, 2009, 10:23:29 PM
G'day all,

Isn't this a similar kind of idea? The description of this and similar devices here:

http://keelytech.com/stubblefield.html

Have fun

Hans von Lieven