Stan is always mentionning "opposite" ... "opposite this" ... opposite that ... As you know I believe this is the same force as two repulsive magnets north to north ... O voltage across the water gap @ some point AND a few normal but @ a different time HV bursts across the gap . In what order I do not know , maybe the off time cause the coil 56 to collapse in reverse mode ... Or maybe sequential order , alternating between high "non-voltage" and high voltage with the gated signal . Cant say for sure .
In this thread I will simply lay out the information wich leads me to believe that this is not the typical sense of "opposite" , Stan really makes effort to always mention this word with the " " , as if it was something major , something wich IS NOT simply HV pulses wich "breaks down the water dielectric capacitor" ... But indeed some sort of water massager to "weaken" its link ...
I believe we are all taking the technique for granted , we have to really understand the water molecule , we must become Stan Meyers ...
Now I will ask you this question , what if we had 2 different signals , both exactly +20 000.000 and -20,000.000 for a total of net zero across the cell , exactly lenght of wire to cell , what happens to the matter @ that specific location where the EMF meets and cancels out ?
Lets say this was a pulsed signal , and that sometimes there is just no EMF meeting at all , just normal +0 and - 0 , but then On time again +20,000 and -20,000 , we know there is no current flow in the circuit and no power and that it is viewed as pointless and illogical in normal electronics point of view .But does this have an effect on the matter in that location where the EMF cancels out ? Some sort of "vacuum bubble" , some sort of "particle oscillation" Huh Who knows ... It does something , we know that , its a scientific fact , google ''aharonov bohm effect'' and read up ... Maybe you can explain to me wtf is meant lol.
Here is all the info I have gathered throughout the year , info wich points in that direction . I know its extensive reading but plz read everything and judge for yourself what is the meaning of "opposite" .
There was recently an interresting article posted @ theorionproject web site , it is called precursor engineering and written by Tom Bearden , pdf is included here with the pics , it is a bit hidden .
http://www.theorionproject.org/en/01_20_09_mailing.html
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Check out this youtube video of ''the science'' behind the new movie The Watchmen .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmj1rpzDRZ0
Goverment clues or half-truths ? Who knows ....
Its interresting to see how things corrolate ... from 1:00 to 2:05 , very interresting
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bearden/ferdelance/s18.htm
An artificial potential is deterministically patterned spacetime stress, made by opposing E-fields and/or B-fields so that they sum to vector zeros in a special pattern.
The resulting zero-summed envelope has no EM force field, to an external observer/detector.
However, the infolded E-field and B-field vector components still exist and act. They may dynamically vary, so long as their summation is always kept to zero.
The simplest variation is to vary all their magnitudes at once, by the same degree. In that case, each one comprises an "EM wave." However, the summation of this cluster or "locked group" of waves still exhibit a zero-E and zero-B field to any external observer/detector. In other-words, to an external observer, one now has a varying wave of pure spatiotemporal stress, but one which has a deterministic structure. This is a scalar EM wave, or electrogravitational wave. It is also an alternating current of specific scalar pattern.
Varying the stress of spacetime locally, curves it locally. This violates the conventional assumption of restricted general relativity that local spacetime is uncurved (is a Lorentz frame).
By use of scalar EM waves with deliberate substructures, one can engineer Bohm’s "hidden variables" so that quantum mechanics becomes deterministic rather than statistical. This is a drastic change to the common (Bohr) interpretation of quantum mechanics.
And Einstein’s intuition that God does not play dice with the universe turns out to be correct after all.
Since physicists haven’t seen where the real game was being played, it has all seemed bewilderingly statistical to them.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bearden/ferdelance/s23.htm
We now visualize the formation of waves of pure stress in the spacetime medium (in the vacuum). arThese we call scal EM waves, Tesla waves, electrogravitational waves, longitudinal EM waves, waves of pure potential, electrostatic/magnetostatic waves, and zero-vector EM waves. All these terms are synonymous. Each sheds its own particular light upon the nature of these waves or of their original discoverer, Nikola Tesla.
We use a gedankenexperiment, or thought experiment, in which we can be "perfect."
Thus we have two single-frequency EM sine waves whose E-field components are shown on the slide. The two waves are of the same frequency, traveling together in the same direction, and superposed 180 degrees out of phase with each other.
In this case, at any spatial point, the summation E and B fields are vector zeros.
However, if we plot the spatiotemporal (vacuum) stress induced by the wave, we see that it constitutes a sine wave, with compressive stress in one half cycle and tensile stress in the second half cycle.
Rigorously this defines a "longitudinal" EM wave -- or what Tesla called a "sound wave in the nonmaterial ether.’’
Also, rigorously it is a gravitational wave, for it is a wave of the curvature of spacetime (nonlinearity of vacuum) itself. That is, what is changing in the wave is the vacuum stress, or intensity of the virtual particle flux of vacuum. That is identical to changing the curvature of spacetime. In one half-cycle, spacetime is curved positively. In the second half-cycle, spacetime is curved negatively.
Since the increase or decrease of the intensity of virtual particle flux (vis-a-vis the ambient vacuum’s virtual flux intensity) represents electrical charge, then in one half-cycle negative charge is represented, and in the other half-cycle positive charge is represented. This directly explains the "positron-electron pair" representation of an electromagnetic photon -- the "photon" being one wavelength.
In one half-cycle, time moves slower. In the second half-cycle, time moves faster. Thus scalar waves can also be considered to be "tempic" waves (to use Wilbur Smith’s term), or oscillations of the rate of flow of time itself, about the ambient rate of time flow. Since these oscillations are variations in the curvature of spacetime, then they represent gravitational or force-generating waves, when coupled to a mass.
Variations in the rate of flow of time produce force, just as any other type of curvature in space time does
Check out this youtube video of ''the science'' behind the new movie The Watchmen .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmj1rpzDRZ0
Goverment clues or half-truths ? Who knows ....
Its interresting to see how things corrolate ... from 1:00 to 2:05 , very interresting
this is the youtube user ''hdemartin''
on overunity his posts are under the name ''demartin'' , seems like a really smart guy . BTW can anybody contact this person ?
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10134;sa=showPosts
Farrah Day and TheBuzz are NOT welcomed on this post , plz DO NOT share your PROPAGANDIST VIEWS
So it appears that the covalent switch off , whatever that is , weakens the covalent bonding of the water . Its is not the same process as the electrical polarization process as you can see from the way he phrases it .
So what is it ?? I have my ideas but i'd like you guys to discuss , I think theres more to high gas production than just a resonant cell , thats just to the situation where we spend the least amount of energy , but what about the actual water molecule , whats going on there , how is it moving , what is holding up the covalent bonding anyways ?
More importantly how do we "weaken this covalent bond" , how are we gonna do this in electrical terms ?? How do we slow down the orbital spin ?? What is the order of things happening , what needs to happen before what ? What force is affecting what ? Are these two seperate things ? Are they happening at the same time or in a sequence of events ? Can the HHO gas itself be primed by this force ?
These are all questions we must ask ourselves ...
I will re-post this and bolden what I truly find important .
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bearden/ferdelance/s18.htm
An artificial potential is deterministically patterned spacetime stress, made by opposing E-fields and/or B-fields so that they sum to vector zeros in a special pattern.
The resulting zero-summed envelope has no EM force field, to an external observer/detector.
However, the infolded E-field and B-field vector components still exist and act. They may dynamically vary, so long as their summation is always kept to zero.
The simplest variation is to vary all their magnitudes at once, by the same degree. In that case, each one comprises an "EM wave." However, the summation of this cluster or "locked group" of waves still exhibit a zero-E and zero-B field to any external observer/detector. In other-words, to an external observer, one now has a varying wave of pure spatiotemporal stress, but one which has a deterministic structure. This is a scalar EM wave, or electrogravitational wave. It is also an alternating current of specific scalar pattern.
Varying the stress of spacetime locally, curves it locally. This violates the conventional assumption of restricted general relativity that local spacetime is uncurved (is a Lorentz frame).
By use of scalar EM waves with deliberate substructures, one can engineer Bohm’s "hidden variables" so that quantum mechanics becomes deterministic rather than statistical. This is a drastic change to the common (Bohr) interpretation of quantum mechanics.
And Einstein’s intuition that God does not play dice with the universe turns out to be correct after all.
Since physicists haven’t seen where the real game was being played, it has all seemed bewilderingly statistical to them.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bearden/ferdelance/s23.htm
We now visualize the formation of waves of pure stress in the spacetime medium (in the vacuum). arThese we call scal EM waves, Tesla waves, electrogravitational waves, longitudinal EM waves, waves of pure potential, electrostatic/magnetostatic waves, and zero-vector EM waves. All these terms are synonymous. Each sheds its own particular light upon the nature of these waves or of their original discoverer, Nikola Tesla.
We use a gedankenexperiment, or thought experiment, in which we can be "perfect."
Thus we have two single-frequency EM sine waves whose E-field components are shown on the slide. The two waves are of the same frequency, traveling together in the same direction, and superposed 180 degrees out of phase with each other.
In this case, at any spatial point, the summation E and B fields are vector zeros.
However, if we plot the spatiotemporal (vacuum) stress induced by the wave, we see that it constitutes a sine wave, with compressive stress in one half cycle and tensile stress in the second half cycle.
Rigorously this defines a "longitudinal" EM wave -- or what Tesla called a "sound wave in the nonmaterial ether.’’
Also, rigorously it is a gravitational wave, for it is a wave of the curvature of spacetime (nonlinearity of vacuum) itself. That is, what is changing in the wave is the vacuum stress, or intensity of the virtual particle flux of vacuum. That is identical to changing the curvature of spacetime. In one half-cycle, spacetime is curved positively. In the second half-cycle, spacetime is curved negatively.
Since the increase or decrease of the intensity of virtual particle flux (vis-a-vis the ambient vacuum’s virtual flux intensity) represents electrical charge, then in one half-cycle negative charge is represented, and in the other half-cycle positive charge is represented. This directly explains the "positron-electron pair" representation of an electromagnetic photon -- the "photon" being one wavelength.
In one half-cycle, time moves slower. In the second half-cycle, time moves faster. Thus scalar waves can also be considered to be "tempic" waves (to use Wilbur Smith’s term), or oscillations of the rate of flow of time itself, about the ambient rate of time flow. Since these oscillations are variations in the curvature of spacetime, then they represent gravitational or force-generating waves, when coupled to a mass.
Variations in the rate of flow of time produce force, just as any other type of curvature in space time does
Dankie,
Can Bearden back up any of his pontifications by any experiments? I think he is getting more credit than he deserves.
Quote from: AhuraMazda on March 02, 2009, 08:38:14 PM
Dankie,
Can Bearden back up any of his pontifications by any experiments? I think he is getting more credit than he deserves.
We should invite him over so he can explain himself ... the mysterious scalar waves , I believe they exist but cannot exactly say what they are .
Well dankie, you seem to have progressed a long way from a cheap suit wearing ss wire salesman to a dedicated researcher. Congratulations, it's clear you put lots of time and effort into this post and it is worthy of commendation.
I hesitate to speculate any further, since I'm encroaching on the event horizon of my own knowledge, and clearly need to learn a lot more... damn this rabbit hole.
Quote from: Farlander on March 04, 2009, 01:15:01 AM
Well dankie, you seem to have progressed a long way from a cheap suit wearing ss wire salesman to a dedicated researcher. Congratulations, it's clear you put lots of time and effort into this post and it is worthy of commendation.
I hesitate to speculate any further, since I'm encroaching on the event horizon of my own knowledge, and clearly need to learn a lot more... damn this rabbit hole.
THX farlander , how is your project doing ?
Im not saying this is powered by scalar waves , I'm just saying that the atoms of the water shrinken and and expand when exposed to this high cancelling force . That is all , you may not even notice anything but its doing that . this force alone would not create gas
Here is a video for everybody to watch now that you are equipped with new knowledge .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obWYrxi77aY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBXAKECMJqg&feature=related
Dankie
these fellows are trying to duplicate scalar waves
Here http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=2352.0;topicseen [last page today]
Chet
I am not saying this is powered by scalar waves , I'm just saying that the atoms of the water shrinken and and expand when exposed to this high cancelling force . That is all , you may not even notice anything but its doing that , thing is that this force alone would not create gas .
Im saying Stan is not a done deal yet ,now is the time to get back into things , theres something more to his technique than what people originally thought . There another movement that we can apply to the water , I see much revolutionnary concepts here than people are not talking about .
DANKIE
you have the stage share your thoughts bud
CHET
What liquid is Bearden talking about , wich inventor is he talking about ? Dipoles.... pumping ... sounds familiar ...
first video is bearden , 2 middle is meyers , last is bearden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wypYFe3JXdE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wypYFe3JXdE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn8RJIgDEDo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn8RJIgDEDo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBXAKECMJqg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBXAKECMJqg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc2r7JylHkk&feature=related]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc2r7JylHkk&feature=related