Ok I know this is for "healing" but look at the way this necklace is made, the science behind it. What if we scale this up to a much better size? I was thinking what if we can use this for other things like powering a home, cars, etc? Does anyone know if this really works as advertised?
I have copied and pasted the links and description below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krMacqOaOnw
http://www.thewayofthecrystal.net
Crystal Healing With Germanium.Necklace That Collects Energy.
So what do these units do? Well they act much like a radio, but they are not a radio, however they bring in the energy that radio waves ride on, this is the free energy that runs our lives and all life forms in the whole cosmos and without it all life would die. It is much like the crystal set radio that I remember building when I was a boy, but it has no head phones, no large antenna, and we don't have to struggle to get the best place on the crystal to receive this energy, as the small crystal detector I use, IS ALREADY TUNED TO THE BEST SOURCE of this energy and is called a fixed crystal, in a diode, and in this diode is a very rare slice of crystal with the name of Germanium, there are a few others that will work one is called a Galena crystal, we use the Germanium, they are called detectors, they allow the energy to flow in one direction only. If one were to look into the diode with a magnifying glass the could see, a very thin piece of wire called a cat whisker, one end is set or touches, the best spot on the crystal, to receive the energy flow.
I have emailed the guy asking the same question and he did reply back saying that it might be possible.
Anyway I've also just sent him another email asking for the schematic for this technology, hopefully he will be nice enough to send it.
If he does send it I will post the schematic here ASAP!
Here is the email reply he sent me:
you are the second person in two days that has been
asking me theses same questions, I started me adventure into the
necklace in 1986, the crystal I work with would never work in the
manner you describe because it is so rare, and so very hard to get.
and it would not be good for what you are searching for, but, right
now there are unites being built in the world that will do just what
you are talking about , I wanted to do that but we can';t do it all,
these unites that will be on the market soon will sit on one corner
of your house and supply you with all the energy you will ever need
for free, but of course they will nail you for the cost of the
unite. Here is a little story for you, years ago when I was first
working on my necklace, there were two inventors here in this country
that had a machine that would run all the electricity in your home
and it was to be sold for around three hundred dollars, they were
turned down at the patent office here in this country as a perpetual
motion machine, in other words they did not want it to get out to the
market, so these guys went to France to set up shop, and O yes they
were using Plasma to do this, anyway the Japanese found out about
them and backed them, and they now have that in Japan, and it will be
out shortly, you need to look for many changes as people are sick and
tired of the big money people that have with disregard of the way
they have paluted and controlled the world is about to come to an
end, and we need to get ride of those congress and other people like
the Federal reserve, people that are nothing but blood suckers,
following orders from big money and get back to changing the world
before it is all gone. Sorry I guess I got carried away, I would say
to you to concentrate on your clear quarts crystals for what you want
to do, I would get a book or some books and go way back in history
and read about what the old witch doctors did with stone for healing
and helping, there people back in those time as they did wonders, and
we know that now. if I wanted to do what you are thinking about
doing, I would look at clear crystals. Understand that the energy is
already here, it is all around you every living thing uses it, and
you need to just draw it out of the air, and a good thing to know is
it is never used up , it is just used and passes on what is in you
today will be in another to morrow in Pakistan or someplace else,
even out in the cosmos, anyway I hope in some small way I have given
you some clues to work with, and now is a great time to work towards
your goal. as in the near future new grand things are on the way, and
you might just have one of them, and my friend stand outside, and
without a structure, or a book or what you have been told by some
one, and just on your own ask God for an answer, that is where I got
mine, and did not ask?? But was told at four OK in the morning in
1986,, Take care Nyal
Hi thanks again for the fast reply.
"...there were two inventors here in this country that had a machine that would run all the electricity in your home..."
Could you give me more information on these two guys?
what are their names?
do you know if there is a public record on these claims?
did they have a name for their technology?
are they still selling these units?
where can I buy one?
do you have a contact number, email, website address so I can make contact with these guys?
any information on these guys would be greatly appreciated.
I got an email reply which did NOT sound good at all!!!!! >:(:
> And this happened many years ago but, if you go on U-Tub and look up
> energy for free or things like that you will see that there are a few
> out now and new ones on the way and the ones from Japan will be the
> best, your Electric Co. now are and have been for years way over
> charging for energy as it is free and reusable and is never depleted,
> but again that is what big money does shafts the little guy, you are
> soon going to see huge changes in everything, and it will all be
> good. Nyal
WHAT THE HELL MAN!?
I guess he has ZERO info on those two inventors.
I did email him back asking if he does not have ANY info on these guys to please let me know.
If not then I'm done with him. And so I'm pretty sure he doesn't have any info by the looks of his reply...
I give up. too bad I can't delete this thread!
sorry to waste your time guys. just ignore this thread.
good bye.
Hello FreeEnergy,
Thank you for tracking down this crystal technology for us. It doesn’t matter that it led to a dead end. The important thing is that you got off your ass and did something that one day may lead you (and everyone else) to a viable solution! For this I sincerely thank you.
I just went through the same type of experience recently with this internet company:
http://www.fuellesspower.com/23_Satisfied_Customers.htm
I found this company by reading another thread here in the skeptic section. The link above is to a company with all kinds of plans for sale and one is a “fuelless†motor. There is also a “fuelless†heater there too.
Regards,
Joe
Quote from: chessnyt on March 09, 2009, 01:58:07 AM
Hello FreeEnergy,
Thank you for tracking down this crystal technology for us. It doesn’t matter that it led to a dead end. The important thing is that you got off your ass and did something that one day may lead you (and everyone else) to a viable solution! For this I sincerely thank you.
I just went through the same type of experience recently with this internet company:
http://www.fuellesspower.com/23_Satisfied_Customers.htm
I found this company by reading another thread here in the skeptic section. The link above is to a company with all kinds of plans for sale and one is a “fuelless†motor. There is also a “fuelless†heater there too.
Regards,
Joe
Thanks for the support Joe :-)
Time for us to move on!...
Take care.
peace
I got another email reply from him...
He is not willing to share that info. Why? I f**ked up, because I shared our email conversation with you guys without his authority, yeah I told him about overunity.com in my last email and he saw this thread. I didn't think it was going to be that big of a deal but I guess it was for him. I just wanted the community here to know what was going on and how I was going about this research and maybe even get help/suggestions in the process. It's not like I was sharing his inner most personal secretes or anything like that. I did apologize but that did not help change his mind. That will teach me! lol
Next time I will ask the person first. doh! lol
- he probably didn't have any useful info on those guys to begin with anyway.
Well there you go guys.
Again I apologize for wasting your time, I have moved on.
NEXT!
Okay, this is actually kind of funny :)
Half of what the guy says is true, the other half is bull.
What he has there is a simple Germanium diode, probably
a verys sensitive low voltage one like the ones used in so-called "crystal radios".
As he describes, in his "crystal necklace" he basically has a circular antenna
connected to the diode, and the other end of the diode to a capacitor, and that
capacitor discharges over a tiny little coil.
This tiny coil, he claims in the video, puts out "the energy" and passes it
into the body of the person wearing the necklace. And this is supposed to heal?
Well, the very basice setup of an antenna, a tuning coil, a capacitor, and a sensitive
diode, is in fact the age-old schematic of a "crystal radio". (aka "foxhole radio")
This type of radio typically uses a very sensitive Germanium diode of the 1N34 or FO125
type, which is extremely sensitive and perfect for isolating or "detecting" radio waves
in the AM (&MW) bands.
A Crystal Radio needs no batteries, it operates on the energy contained in the
carrier wave of the radio signal.
Crystal radios have never been claimed to heal people at all.
It is possible that the maker of the video (and the builder of those necklaces)
has tuned the LC circuit, that is the capacitor and the coil, to a specific
frequency that stimulates "healing" according to the Rife radionics frequency
lists or something like that. The LC circuit can act like a self-oscillator,
depending on the value of the capacitor, the gauge and number of turns and
diameter of the coil, and the amount of charge fed into the coil.
So if that is the case, then he is simply using ambient "radio" (e/m) waves
to charge the capacitor via the diode, then the cap and coil go into
oscillation untill the energy feed becomes too low.
Anyway, YES you can use a similar circuit using germanium crystal diodes
to "capture" energy from the air and charge a capacitor, which can be used
as energy source for small devices or circuits.
The theory can all be found if you study Crystal Radios, but you don't really need to.
You can also try to replicate the "Tate Ambient Power Module";
this is a very simple circuit of 4 Germanium diodes and 4 capacitors,
which acts like a sort of "trap" for electromagnetic fluctuations, and turns any
detectable radio signals into charge on the caps, which can be used as DC
to power small devices.
In theory you could make an even simpler version with 2 diodes and 1 or 2 caps,
but that would not work as nicely... but it would work, just like the "necklace" circuit.
Here is a link to fairly extensive documentation on the Tate APM:
http://www.rexresearch.com/tate/tate.htm
Also, you can search YouTube for a video titled "energy from air", there's one
or two on there that show people's replications of such a TAPM circuit,
and how much volts they're getting from it.
So yeah you were way off in approaching that necklace fellow but in fact
the basic elements he uses to make a crappy little device can be used
in different circuits to actually collect energy from the environment.
Ok, in practise you will most of the time be picking up and rectifying
radio signals from various sources, but in theory you should also
be able to pick up "ground radio" (seismic e/m waves) with it.
Hope that helps? :)
Kind regards,
Koen
@FreeEnergy
I always ask the person, if I am interviewing them, that I wish to post his responses on the overunity.com web site. Most will say OK but some will say to not include this or that part. But I always say I will always post everything they tell me so if there is anything they do not want on the forum, to not tell me it. This way things are very clear and they quickly realize I am very serious about the transparency of the information they will give and that is good to build a mutual trust. Also, then I don't have to worry about keeping a secret. lol
I am sure if this gentleman thinks it over, there are people in this world that do care about what he has to say and eventually realize that if he knew more about these two men, he will come forth willing and let us know all in good time.
We can only try our best so good work.
@Koen1
Thanks for your post. I think @EM should look into this for capturing energy from high voltage lines.
thanks koen for that great info. i will look into it.
lol did you guys see how much he is selling his necklace for? $147 plus $10 for shipping. what a rip off. lol
and wattsup yeah ive learned my lesson :) and i doubt he will come here to tell us about those two guys specially now that his precious necklace has been exposed by koen. lol
bye
Quote from: FreeEnergy on March 09, 2009, 05:53:40 PM
did you guys see how much he is selling his necklace for? $147 plus $10 for shipping. what a rip off.
depending of how much sterling silver is used in a necklace, it might not be such a big rip off as we might think.
Speaking of silver.....
I wonder what some pure, insulated silver wire and this material:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Metglass-nanocrystalline-tape-for-MEG-generator-5kg_W0QQitemZ310127838496QQcmdZ
Could be induced to produce?
Amophously speaking.
Isn't a crystalradio some kind of free energy? no battery's
http://www.vintageradio.info/xtal.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E99Ngw9Tck4
Isn't that exactly what I wrote on the previous page?
And like I said, you don't need to build a fullblown Crystal Radio
if all you want to do is collect the energy contained in radio waves.
A Crystal Radio is usefull because it is a real AM radio that
does not require a battery to operate.
If you don't want to listen to the radio signal, you don't need to
have the tuning circuit of a radio, so you really don't need to build
the radio part.
Build a simple rectifier connected to an antenna and use sensitive
diodes (like the Germanium crystal diodes) to rectify any and all
electromagnetic fluctuations that the antenna receives.
Like that "Tate Ambient Power Module", that is basically a
rectifying diode bridge with a few capacitors connected to store
the charge.
Regards,
Koen
Hi everyone
be careful of wearing some good conductor outside especially when raining you might become a good conductor to lightning!
and its not a joke!
God bless
otits
Wow look at the attached picture which I took from: http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/ambientpower.htm
Also note the description below from the same web page, the guy says he has been able to get 27 volts with this design. I'd love to build something like this, will anyone help me build one step by step?:
Subject: Re: [nuenergy] Re: Tate power ambient circuit update Reply-To: nuenergy@yahoogroups.com
Geoff , the reason the power is so low is the capacitors being used. If larger capacitors such as used for power audio systems or the newer super capacitors such as the 50-500 Farad units You will begin to see real power. The schematics shows a great deal of naivety on the part of the Inventor and the issuing Patent Office. The basic idea is 1000% It relates to My Earth Electrical System II from 15 years ago.
from an email recieved from Don L.Smith
and from another experiementer
Hey thanks for improving the information on the Ambient power module you have at your site.
Remember I e-mailed to you recently about the capacitor values missing.
That extra info is quite helpful and using larger capacitors definatly increases power as I have seen in my own tests on my circuit.
Hey another cool thing I found is that if you earth both the earth of the circuit to ground and the other end of the antenna to a separate ground, you increase the power dramaticaly, compared to using a normal antenna and coil. I made a similar coil to the one mentioned on the ambient power web page but it didn't help.
I have tested and found that the power output is greatly related to how large your capacitors are and how well grounded your antenna and circuit grounds are. A metal stake shoved in the ground provides a reasonable ground. But I found that it is much better to get the largest surface area of metal in contact with the ground as possible. I even tryed digging a hole and planting aluminium foil sheets in the ground. That worked quite well. At the moment I am using the earth of the house for the circuit earth and a metal fence for the antenna earth. This is working great.
Note that the ground of the circuit and the antenna gound have to be separate. They cannot be connected in any way other than physical earth.
So far I am using 470uF capacitors and IN60 germanium diodes as they have a low voltage drop and the capacitors collect more current compared to 47uF. I also replaced the 0.2uF capacitors in the original diagram to 47uF capacitors aswell. I also intend to replace them all to much higher capacitor values. Although the mentioned 50-500 farred capacitors on the web site cost a fortune as each one costs $1000+ each and I would need 12 of them.
The first circuit showen on the web page that had the problem with the diode, I fixed and is running quite well. I have included a picture of the fixed circuit in this e-mail as an attatchment if you would like to have a look at it.
If you have a look at the circuit you will see that it is the diode in red that has been fixed. This circuit has been test run with a computer program as well as practicaly. An example output of current and voltage measurements is also included along with a load (The light bulb). Unfortunatly practicly I havn't been able to collect that much current yet. Although I am working on it. But I have been able to get up to 27 volts with this design.
At the moment the circuit runs nicely as a night light although it is probably too bright to be used as I night light. I use an 8000 mcd white LED which is definatly bright. But I know that I will inprove the circuit further and will hopefully be able to power more than just an LED.
Again thanks for updating the Ambient power page. Your doing a great job. Thanks.
Yes, there you go, that's quite a good site about the thing :)
Nice find :)
Quote from: chessnyt on March 09, 2009, 01:58:07 AM
Hello FreeEnergy,
Thank you for tracking down this crystal technology for us. It doesn’t matter that it led to a dead end. The important thing is that you got off your ass and did something that one day may lead you (and everyone else) to a viable solution! For this I sincerely thank you.
I just went through the same type of experience recently with this internet company:
http://www.fuellesspower.com/23_Satisfied_Customers.htm
I found this company by reading another thread here in the skeptic section. The link above is to a company with all kinds of plans for sale and one is a “fuelless†motor. There is also a “fuelless†heater there too.
Regards,
Joe
http://www.fuellesspower.com/
THEY ARE CROOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM THEM.
Quote from: FreeEnergy on March 09, 2009, 01:22:04 AM
I got an email reply which did NOT sound good at all!!!!! >:(:
> And this happened many years ago but, if you go on U-Tub and look up
> energy for free or things like that you will see that there are a few
> out now and new ones on the way and the ones from Japan will be the
> best, your Electric Co. now are and have been for years way over
> charging for energy as it is free and reusable and is never depleted,
> but again that is what big money does shafts the little guy, you are
> soon going to see huge changes in everything, and it will all be
> good. Nyal
WHAT THE HELL MAN!?
I guess he has ZERO info on those two inventors.
I did email him back asking if he does not have ANY info on these guys to please let me know.
If not then I'm done with him. And so I'm pretty sure he doesn't have any info by the looks of his reply...
I give up. too bad I can't delete this thread!
sorry to waste your time guys. just ignore this thread.
good bye.
@FreeEnergy
I do not understand your frustration. This thread is much more useful then many other threads.
(Did not even read the rest of page one and page 2 yet.)
Believe me. It makes sense to the people who has experience or knowledge with life energy
(prana, ki, chi). For example I am a pranic healer and it makes perfect sense to me.
We use clear quarz crystals during our healings because their energy body is very large.
For example a clear quarz healing crystal can have an energy body of more then 43 kms wide.
This old man obviously has a lot of intuition as those things that he is saying are absolutely correct:
government bodies are toys for big money
we are as well toys for big money
soon there will be many changes all positive
Piece,
Devrim
All this cant work to extract some free energy from univers (or radiostations).
As child (60 years ago) i learned from my father (radio-repair-mean) , So i
made experiences enought whole my life , because this was later my proffession...
YOU must not try !
The only way to absorb (robber) energy is, if you are placed directly
some meters (up to 100 / 200 Meters) in near from strong radiostation.
(longwave, Berlin) people in garden-areas. that was directöy under the Antennas have
done this to illuminate there gardens. 1930 . !!
I also have used (1950) this way (as child) to learn, I lived directly in near to MW station
(not more existing) An i light on an flashlight lamp, i i come in near of the transmitter Antenna (50 Meters)
THIS ENERGY is NOT FREE .
All this that we sucking outside.
WE must POWER this into the Antenna
(I learned and tested this later if i was also constructig smal (later bigger)
transmitters. -Only for fun and learning-
Pese
HERE ANOTHER WAY ???? :
energy
-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nISNC8TUIUk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BB9CbAj6y8&feature=channel
Quote from: Koen1 on March 09, 2009, 11:49:36 AM
Okay, this is actually kind of funny :)
Half of what the guy says is true, the other half is bull.
What he has there is a simple Germanium diode, probably
a verys sensitive low voltage one like the ones used in so-called "crystal radios".
As he describes, in his "crystal necklace" he basically has a circular antenna
connected to the diode, and the other end of the diode to a capacitor, and that
capacitor discharges over a tiny little coil.
This tiny coil, he claims in the video, puts out "the energy" and passes it
into the body of the person wearing the necklace. And this is supposed to heal?
Well, the very basice setup of an antenna, a tuning coil, a capacitor, and a sensitive
diode, is in fact the age-old schematic of a "crystal radio". (aka "foxhole radio")
This type of radio typically uses a very sensitive Germanium diode of the 1N34 or FO125
type, which is extremely sensitive and perfect for isolating or "detecting" radio waves
in the AM (&MW) bands.
A Crystal Radio needs no batteries, it operates on the energy contained in the
carrier wave of the radio signal.
Crystal radios have never been claimed to heal people at all.
It is possible that the maker of the video (and the builder of those necklaces)
has tuned the LC circuit, that is the capacitor and the coil, to a specific
frequency that stimulates "healing" according to the Rife radionics frequency
lists or something like that. The LC circuit can act like a self-oscillator,
depending on the value of the capacitor, the gauge and number of turns and
diameter of the coil, and the amount of charge fed into the coil.
So if that is the case, then he is simply using ambient "radio" (e/m) waves
to charge the capacitor via the diode, then the cap and coil go into
oscillation untill the energy feed becomes too low.
Anyway, YES you can use a similar circuit using germanium crystal diodes
to "capture" energy from the air and charge a capacitor, which can be used
as energy source for small devices or circuits.
The theory can all be found if you study Crystal Radios, but you don't really need to.
You can also try to replicate the "Tate Ambient Power Module";
this is a very simple circuit of 4 Germanium diodes and 4 capacitors,
which acts like a sort of "trap" for electromagnetic fluctuations, and turns any
detectable radio signals into charge on the caps, which can be used as DC
to power small devices.
In theory you could make an even simpler version with 2 diodes and 1 or 2 caps,
but that would not work as nicely... but it would work, just like the "necklace" circuit.
Here is a link to fairly extensive documentation on the Tate APM:
http://www.rexresearch.com/tate/tate.htm
Also, you can search YouTube for a video titled "energy from air", there's one
or two on there that show people's replications of such a TAPM circuit,
and how much volts they're getting from it.
So yeah you were way off in approaching that necklace fellow but in fact
the basic elements he uses to make a crappy little device can be used
in different circuits to actually collect energy from the environment.
Ok, in practise you will most of the time be picking up and rectifying
radio signals from various sources, but in theory you should also
be able to pick up "ground radio" (seismic e/m waves) with it.
Hope that helps? :)
Kind regards,
Koen
@Koen1
Beautifully explained. Tate device is one of the very few free energy devices
that actually work and can easily be replicated.
In the old mans setup would that heal? I am not sure.
It can supply extra energy in the LW/MW frequency to our energy bodies
(you may have heard about the aura, chakras, meridiens etc.)
But I am not sure if that would energise our bodies enough or in a proper way
to stay healthier or stronger. Here, what comes into the equation is the "belief"
If you can make a person believe that you healed them they will be healed
whatever the problem is. I am not going to get into any details here for that but it is so.
That might be the way the necklace effects its wearers or it really energizes the body somehow.
Piece,
Devrim
Quote from: TheNOP on March 09, 2009, 09:24:32 PM
depending of how much sterling silver is used in a necklace, it might not be such a big rip off as we might think.
Moreover, do not forget the crystals in the necklace. He is using beads of different crystals
on the upper part of the necklace.
Whats more is that, he is a VERY OLD MAN. Even if he were a crook (he is not)
he deserves some respect as the other things he said can not be said by an ordinary
person. In order for a person to be able to say those he must be highly intuitive.
In order to become intuitive one needs to deserve it with the level of consciousness.
Just show some respect and love to anybody you will always gain from that.
(I am telling this to everyone not one specific person)
Piece,
Devrim
Quote from: pese on March 26, 2009, 06:31:36 AM
All this cant work to extract some free energy from univers (or radiostations).
As child (60 years ago) i learned from my father (radio-repair-mean) , So i
made experiences enought whole my life , because this was later my proffession...
YOU must not try !
The only way to absorb (robber) energy is, if you are placed directly
some meters (up to 100 / 200 Meters) in near from strong radiostation.
(longwave, Berlin) people in garden-areas. that was directöy under the Antennas have
done this to illuminate there gardens. 1930 . !!
Yes, I know the anecdote, heard it from other sources too.
But then again, those people lived right under those big antennas,
and knew there was power being pumped into those antennas,
so I suppose they simply put 1 and 1 together to make 2,
and decided they could tap some of that power since those
allied radio stations seemed to have enough anyway and they
had too little themselves.
I am not entirely sure if that proves in any way that such diode
arrays cannot do the same with natural e/m waves, so I am
not convinced that it is impossible to get power from such an
array that is not transmitted to it by a manmade radio station,
like you seem to be saying.
QuoteI also have used (1950) this way (as child) to learn, I lived directly in near to MW station
(not more existing) An i light on an flashlight lamp, i i come in near of the transmitter Antenna (50 Meters)
THIS ENERGY is NOT FREE .
Obviously not. There needs to be a source that produces electromagnetic waves or fluctuations.
But that source need not necessarily be man-made.
Could be "ground radio" as in seismically produced e/m waves.
Could be the "static interference" that is produced by lightning.
QuoteAll this that we sucking outside.
WE must POWER this into the Antenna
(I learned and tested this later if i was also constructig smal (later bigger)
transmitters. -Only for fun and learning-
So basically you were experimenting with what... crystal radios first,
then tried some wireless power transmission experiments just like
those "new" wireless charger tests they have recently been doing
to develop phone and laptop battery chargers that are cordless?
Or was you focus more on collecting energy from the environment,
from radio noise and carrier waves?
QuotePese
HERE ANOTHER WAY ???? :
energy
-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nISNC8TUIUk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BB9CbAj6y8&feature=channel
Can you perhaps give a transcript of the text in English?
I would like to know what they're talking about but unfortunately
can't understand a word of what is said.
Kind regards,
Koen
test
No one has brought up the most abundant crystal in the world = ice
and how it interacts with the earths magnetic field to create a charge in thunderstorms that leads to a lightning discharge.
Can we structure the crystal ;)