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Title: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on March 08, 2009, 02:17:37 PM
A heart is probably the most efficient way on earth to turn one from of energy into another.
So why not take all the hearts from all the dead cows in America and use them to pump a liquid to power a generator?

A cow heart powered generator would not make any noise or pollution.
No noise, no pollution, runs on hay, probably the most efficient way on earth to convert one form of energy to another - sounds good to me.
And it works all the time, unlike solar or wind power.

Sewage could be used as a fuel for a cow heart powered generator.  I don't think the heart would care what it was feed.

How many horsepower a cow heart would make?

Its all about turning a useless form of energy into a useful form of energy.

And as a added bonus we get to eat the cows.

The cow heart powered generator would need 4 things.
1. A working fluid inside the heart to pump thru the generator.
2. A fluid to submerse the heart in to support it.
3. Oxygen in the fluid.
4. Artificial nutrients in the fluid.

During peak electrical demand give the cow hearts coffee and they will beat faster.

The old h.p. is horse power, the new h.p. is heart power.

A Elephant heart weights about 60 lbs.
I am not saying we should kill all the elephants on the planet, and use there hearts to make electricity, but what if we could clone a 60 lb Elephant heart and use them to make electricity?

A Blue Whales heart weights 1000 lbs, that’s a big heart.
I wonder how many horsepower a 1000 lb whale heart could make?
We could domesticate Blue Whales and harvest various part of there body, just like cows.



Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: gravityblock on March 08, 2009, 04:17:56 PM
Hearts do appear to be a very efficient pump.  What would be your best guess, for the work that could be done from the output of the heart, versus the input to keep the heart pumping?   It's not a bad idea to try and emulate nature.  This is interesting.
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on March 08, 2009, 04:28:11 PM
Gravityblock,
The important question is how efficiently can one form of energy be converted into another.
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: gravityblock on March 08, 2009, 08:45:41 PM
Quote from: brian334 on March 08, 2009, 04:28:11 PM
Gravityblock,
The important question is how efficiently can one form of energy be converted into another.


I think you would need to have a synthetic blood or plasma fluid for the heart.  Both of those options are available right now.  What if you had the plasma fluid pumped back upstream and then have a water wheel downstream to turn the generator.  Throw a couple hundred or thousand hearts into the system for better conversion.  More hearts would then equal a better conversion.  What type of conversion are you thinking about, or am I way off?
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on March 09, 2009, 08:30:49 AM
gravityblock,
you are right on.
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on March 09, 2009, 04:29:36 PM
I think it is interesting that the solution to are energy problem might be organic and not mechanical.
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on March 09, 2009, 05:29:51 PM
thank god for drugs
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: Mark69 on March 11, 2009, 10:39:09 AM
why not create a Frankenstien monster to peddle a stationary bike that spins a generator?  LMAO
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: ResinRat2 on March 11, 2009, 11:08:26 AM
I remember in high school biology class we dissected a frog. The instructor destroyed their brain just before the dissection by letting the frogs sit in chloroform vapors until they went unconscious, then he rammed a pointed steel probe into their brain and swished it around, then turned the probe 180 degrees and slammed it into their spinal cord. The frog's legs sprung out straight and stiff, indicating that the spinal cord was destroyed. During the dissection we saw that the frog's heart was still beating. It was very morbid and bizzare, but very interesting to watch.

This means you have a cheap and easy way to start your experiments brian. You can catch these creatures in any swamp and start your testing.  Small scale and abundant parts available for study ---  I can't believe I just wrote that. Wow, what a concept.
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on March 11, 2009, 01:53:14 PM
Rat,
I do like frog legs, but I think a frogs heart is to small.

I am still trying to figure out how many cow hearts it would take to
make 1 horsepower.
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on March 16, 2009, 08:19:22 PM
I estimate  40 cow hearts would make 1 horse power.

Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on March 19, 2009, 04:25:03 PM
40 cow hearts = 1 h. p.
8 cow hearts/cu. ft
5 cu. ft. of cow hearts could make 1 h.p.
It would fit in your trunk.

Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on March 20, 2009, 05:47:17 PM
40 cow hearts = 1 h.p. = 750 watts, 24 hours a day.
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on March 23, 2009, 05:56:25 PM
I estimate 8 cow hearts/cu ft, so 40 cow hearts would need 5 cu ft of area.
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: Bulbz on March 23, 2009, 08:28:45 PM
LOL... Didn't someone open a thread on the cow heart subject a while back ?.

You never know, cow hearts might get things MOOving  ;D
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: Bulbz on March 23, 2009, 08:31:31 PM
I have another suggestion... Just attach pipes to the cow's chads, and use the gasses to run generators !  :P
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on March 26, 2009, 07:03:55 PM
Bulbz,
A internal combustion engine is not a very efficient way to turn one from of energy into another.
I think your suggestion stinks.
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on March 31, 2009, 09:28:15 PM
I could be wrong, but it is my opinion that machines can not create energy.
Machines can and do convert one from of energy into another.
Animals also convert one form of energy into another.
The question is how efficiently one from of energy is converted into another.

Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on August 04, 2009, 07:20:16 PM
We could also use the hearts from aborted babies.
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on August 04, 2009, 08:43:21 PM
A human heart is a terrible thing to waste,
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on September 03, 2009, 06:10:33 PM
The good thing about domesticating blue whales is all we need to feed them is sea water.
Title: Re: A BIOPUMP FUELED BY BIOMASS
Post by: brian334 on September 04, 2010, 05:30:41 PM
I though I would bring back a old idea for some new discussion.