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Title: astral turbine
Post by: zapnic on April 08, 2009, 11:12:33 AM
hello
I find this weird video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HarHeXn1tSc
but my Italian is so bad i don't understand anything
little help ?
Title: Re: astral turbine
Post by: Michelinho on April 08, 2009, 11:53:27 AM


Hi zapnic,

This is nothing special and can be a localized magnetic effect.

My son-in-law hangs "U" magnets from the ceiling and the magnet spins just like that although at my place it is totally stable. He also placed dried grass leaves in a bol filled with water on the basement floor and the water spins. I clearly saw 3 ceramic magnets in his "turbine" and this could be the same phenomena.

Hope this helps,

Michel

Title: Re: astral turbine
Post by: Goat on April 08, 2009, 12:15:02 PM
@ Zapnic

Nice find!  Interesting phenomenon to say the least.

There was a link in the video to the website which has the "PRESENTATION, COMMENTS AND BRIEF DESCRIPTIVE SUMMARY " at http://www.webalice.it/gsoncini/cosmos/present.htm

Regards,
Paul
Title: Re: astral turbine
Post by: Steven Dufresne on April 08, 2009, 01:32:52 PM
Quote from: Michelinho on April 08, 2009, 11:53:27 AM
My son-in-law hangs "U" magnets from the ceiling and the magnet spins just like that although at my place it is totally stable. He also placed dried grass leaves in a bol filled with water on the basement floor and the water spins. I clearly saw 3 ceramic magnets in his "turbine" and this could be the same phenomena.

Hi Michel,
Really? Does he just literally tie the magnet to something an hang it? What is he using to hang them with: a string, nylon fishing line, ...? Has he tried other non-magnetic objects of similar weight? Depending on your answers this may not be relevant but to save time... I recall an interesting experiment a few years ago where if something was hung using a twisted material such as string or thread then the thing would spin but if it was hung with something that didn't have any twists such as nylon fishing line then it wouldn't spin. The reason turned out to be that the downward force of the hanging object would initially cause some untwisting to occur if the material had twists in it.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org
Title: Re: astral turbine
Post by: zapnic on April 08, 2009, 01:49:16 PM
GianSoncini :"The practical demonstration can be replied upon request through email from Physics University "
http://www.webalice.it/gsoncini/cosmos/





Title: Re: astral turbine
Post by: Michelinho on April 08, 2009, 02:12:09 PM

@ Steven,

He used a 2 lb nylon fishing line to hang the "U" magnet, he actually has 5 or 6 hanging in different places and the all act the same with more or less amplitude or rotation. He is getting magnetic reading on his Gauss meter near the basement cement floor. I would doubt it too if I had not seen it spin and swinging on its axe.

Weird thing.

Take care,

Michel

Title: Re: astral turbine
Post by: Steven Dufresne on April 08, 2009, 07:02:49 PM
Quote from: Michelinho on April 08, 2009, 02:12:09 PM
He used a 2 lb nylon fishing line to hang the "U" magnet, he actually has 5 or 6 hanging in different places and the all act the same with more or less amplitude or rotation. He is getting magnetic reading on his Gauss meter near the basement cement floor. I would doubt it too if I had not seen it spin and swinging on its axe.

Michel,
That is weird. No breezes involved are there? I had that recently with my static balance testing. Sorry, he's probably already eliminated all these possibilities.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org
Title: Re: astral turbine
Post by: infringer on April 08, 2009, 09:36:36 PM
Well if it can be replicated with strong enough line it may be worth a shot grab some spiderwire or something from the local tackle store and friggin make a stator and rotor start power generation...

I've always thought about this but my thoughts were more to use it for a wind turbine type effect for them days when you get occasional gusts of wind then the reverse spin built up with unwind when the gust dies to maximize power...

Anyhow yep interesting indeed.
Title: Re: astral turbine
Post by: Michelinho on April 08, 2009, 10:59:27 PM

Hi,

No fans or air movement. His house is probably sitting on a magnetic node, it's kinda weird since he is now redoing many of his magnetic experiments at work or in my place to double check his results. Every pipes are either PVC or copper so that pretty much eliminate a conducting source.

That's what I told him, fill the basement with coils and sell electricity...  ::)

Take care,

Michel

Title: Re: astral turbine
Post by: nitinnun on April 17, 2009, 05:36:55 PM
it is using the earths magnetic field,
to spin.


the negative magnetism at the north pole,
always spins counter-clockwise.

the positive magnetism at the south pole,
always spins clockwise.


the magnets on that rotor,
must all be facing positive pole out.

so that the magnets on one side of the rotor,
are attracted towards the north pole,
and repelled from the south pole.

both attract and repel, are being used.


also notice that the 3 big magnets on top,
are positioned like the 3 rotor magnets,
inside an electric motor !

and the north and south poles,
would be like the 2 stator magnets,
of the electric motor !

the flywheel effect,
slowly builds up "weak" momentum,
into strong momentum.