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Title: Old Wheel New Approach
Post by: FreeEnergy on April 12, 2009, 11:14:24 PM
tell me what you guys think asap!
is the picture self explanatory?
Title: Re: Old Wheel New Approach
Post by: overtaker on April 12, 2009, 11:47:31 PM
Self explanatory..... no,  not for my little brain.
Gravity wheel or magnetic wheel?
More details please.   :-\
Title: Re: Old Wheel New Approach
Post by: FreeEnergy on April 13, 2009, 02:33:17 AM
Quote from: overtaker on April 12, 2009, 11:47:31 PM
Self explanatory..... no,  not for my little brain.
Gravity wheel or magnetic wheel?
More details please.   :-\

it is both magnetic and gravity powered.

if you know how a tri gate magnetic track work then it should help you understand how this wheel works: http://www.overunity.org.uk/cmps_index.php?s=7a0a2870fb023cbb500560013a20aa7d&pageid=tr1

Title: Re: Old Wheel New Approach
Post by: FreeEnergy on April 13, 2009, 02:37:15 AM
the first arm of the wheel on your right side falls down because of gravity at the end of the guiding ramp right into the neutral point of the magnetic field of a tri gate.
Title: Re: Old Wheel New Approach
Post by: FreeEnergy on April 14, 2009, 03:45:31 PM
anyone out there? tell me why this will not work. looks like it will work.
Title: Re: Old Wheel New Approach
Post by: FreeEnergy on April 14, 2009, 10:26:40 PM
 :(  :'(
Title: Re: Old Wheel New Approach
Post by: wattsup on April 14, 2009, 11:57:15 PM
OK OK

lolollololol

The bottom left ball will never go up the guiding ramp. Too many other problems to start explaining but it is obvious.

Nice try though.
Title: Re: Old Wheel New Approach
Post by: FreeEnergy on April 15, 2009, 12:03:58 AM
the hardest part about this wheel is calculating the timing of the arm release so it falls directly in to the neutral magnetic spot of the TRI GATE track.
Title: Re: Old Wheel New Approach
Post by: FreeEnergy on April 15, 2009, 12:07:06 AM
you just need strong enough magnets to overcome friction and the weight of the arms etc. 
Title: PROVE ME WRONG
Post by: FreeEnergy on April 15, 2009, 12:35:37 AM
prove me wrong
Title: Re: Old Wheel New Approach
Post by: chessnyt on April 15, 2009, 12:59:37 AM
FreeEnergy,

Why don’t you consider making a plastic or wood wheel with multiple spokes at equal intervals (lengths and distances apart) and simply attach the cylinder type magnets at the end of each spoke.  As the attached magnets pass by single or double trigates, they would be propelled by from one direction to the other.

Am I misunderstanding the function of the trigates?  You shouldn’t need gravity in the plan that I am proposing.  In fact, the balanced wheel is moved solely by magnetic energy/fields.

Regards,

Chess Knight 
Title: Re: Old Wheel New Approach
Post by: FreeEnergy on April 15, 2009, 01:13:49 AM
Quote from: chessnyt on April 15, 2009, 12:59:37 AM
FreeEnergy,

Why don’t you consider making a plastic or wood wheel with multiple spokes at equal intervals (lengths and distances apart) and simply attach the cylinder type magnets at the end of each spoke.  As the attached magnets pass by single or double trigates, they would be propelled by from one direction to the other.

Am I misunderstanding the function of the trigates?  You shouldn’t need gravity in the plan that I am proposing.  In fact, the balanced wheel is moved solely by magnetic energy/fields.

Regards,

Chess Knight 


the spokes  or arms would need to be able to "jump" the the opposing magnetic gate so gravity comes in to play in my design.

if you have a better idea post a drawing for better explanation. i could be wrong but i think your explanation has already been tried and did not succeed. unless i understood you wrong.

Title: Re: Old Wheel New Approach
Post by: FreeEnergy on April 15, 2009, 04:06:06 AM
is this what you mean? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChGB3delzoA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fmy_videos_edit2&feature=player_embedded

i dont know if that will work.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7222.0
Title: Re: Old Wheel New Approach
Post by: chessnyt on April 15, 2009, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: FreeEnergy on April 15, 2009, 04:06:06 AM
is this what you mean? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChGB3delzoA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fmy_videos_edit2&feature=player_embedded

i dont know if that will work.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7222.0

FreeEnergy,

Yes.  This is pretty close to what I was suggesting that is displayed in the last video that you posted.  The only thing I was thinking of doing different is instead of the cylindrical magnets point straight out, have them positioned in the same direction as the wheel’s axle (sort of like a revolver pistol) and have two triangle (trigates) on both sides of the wheel (for a total of 4 trigates).  The ends of the cylindrical magnets would pass through the middle of 1 pair of trigates on both sides at the same time.

Regards,

Chess Knight   
Title: Re: Old Wheel New Approach
Post by: FreeEnergy on April 16, 2009, 03:42:40 AM
Quote from: chessnyt on April 15, 2009, 09:46:12 PM
FreeEnergy,

Yes.  This is pretty close to what I was suggesting that is displayed in the last video that you posted.  The only thing I was thinking of doing different is instead of the cylindrical magnets point straight out, have them positioned in the same direction as the wheel’s axle (sort of like a revolver pistol) and have two triangle (trigates) on both sides of the wheel (for a total of 4 trigates).  The ends of the cylindrical magnets would pass through the middle of 1 pair of trigates on both sides at the same time.

Regards,

Chess Knight   


hello,
i dont think that will work from the last video. i could be wrong.


your idea maybe it will work if no one has tried it yet, maybe. post a drawing.

i still think my idea will work better. my idea should work i think.
Title: Re: Old Wheel New Approach
Post by: FreeEnergy on April 17, 2009, 12:32:06 AM
seriously i can't see why this wheel will not work. come on guys!