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Title: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: Cherryman on April 20, 2009, 03:19:01 PM
Just curious,

Wat burns in this video?

If it would be HHO shouldn't it "explode" ?  Go with a bang?  Instead it burns slowly..  Why?

http://www.maniacworld.com/how-to-burn-water-trick.html
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: Cherryman on April 20, 2009, 04:03:58 PM
Quote from: Cherryman on April 20, 2009, 03:19:01 PM
Just curious,

Wat burns in this video?

If it would be HHO shouldn't it "explode" ?  Go with a bang?  Instead it burns slowly..  Why?

http://www.maniacworld.com/how-to-burn-water-trick.html

edit: Well.. got some batteries bathing... Now we wait....   ;D
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: Cherryman on April 20, 2009, 05:11:56 PM
Tried it:

Difference, i used AAA batteries 1.5v

Time in the water 1 hour.

Nothing burnes...

(I do think that pulling out the batteries with my vingers could influenced the results)

So far.. no fire..
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: TheNOP on April 20, 2009, 06:32:56 PM
use alcool instead of water.  ;)
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: Brian Coats on April 20, 2009, 10:59:50 PM
That was a Gag. Water doesn't burn. Even if acid from the battery happens to leak into the water from the small battery still no burn.
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: mscoffman on April 21, 2009, 12:59:17 PM

Standard Isopropanol "rubbing alcohol" will burn like that without the batteries...Caution though,
that glass can crack - then you'll have lovely burning alcohol running all over...
fortunately I did this experiment on a steel welding table when I was a kid.

Would the initial claim work?...I don't think water will store/buffer H2 gas like.
Water doesn't burn but HHO will burn/explode depending of release rates.

:S:MarkSCoffman
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: Cherryman on April 21, 2009, 01:08:48 PM
It seems to be I'm fooled....

I was thinking there would be some electrolyses that makes such tiny bubbles that it would be a "during" flame...  Alcohol, spiritus..whatever...  sure it creates the same effect..

But hey! Better die trying!  ;D
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: ResinRat2 on April 21, 2009, 01:17:47 PM
Don't kick yourself too much Cherryman. There's all kinds of idiots doling out Crap of the Bull on the net.

I would get REALLY angry though, if they were demonstrating something where someone could actually get injured.
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: Cherryman on April 21, 2009, 01:21:54 PM
Quote from: ResinRat2 on April 21, 2009, 01:17:47 PM
Don't kick yourself too much Cherryman. There's all kinds of idiots doling out Crap of the Bull on the net.

I would get REALLY angry though, if they were demonstrating something where someone could actually get injured.

Well...  I tried splitting up some atoms with a razorblade.....   That didn't improve the neighborhood...

;D
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: triffid on April 21, 2009, 03:14:08 PM
That liquid burning is known as rubbing alcohol(also known as isopropyl alcohol).70% alcohol by volume and 30% water by volume .The water does not burn but becomes steam if it becomes anything important.Oh yes some people get a big kick out of misleading others on the web.I once wasted 2 months on a stupid experiment that someone said could be done--what a liar.I once put out an alcohol fire in a lab by inverting a large beaker over it snuffing out the fire.Or we would have had flaming alcohol everywhere.I also find it hard to believe those batteries were in the water long enough to leak anything that could burn.Triffid
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: WilbyInebriated on February 14, 2010, 11:37:46 PM
Quote from: Cherryman on April 20, 2009, 03:19:01 PM
Just curious,

Wat burns in this video?

If it would be HHO shouldn't it "explode" ?  Go with a bang?  Instead it burns slowly..  Why?

http://www.maniacworld.com/how-to-burn-water-trick.html

HHO doesn't always 'explode'... it can be made to burn slowly.
http://www.youtube.com/user/MRH2O2#p/u/47/aanRgpfv144
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: Bulbz on February 15, 2010, 12:45:12 PM
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on February 14, 2010, 11:37:46 PM
HHO doesn't always 'explode'... it can be made to burn slowly.
http://www.youtube.com/user/MRH2O2#p/u/47/aanRgpfv144

Plastic funnels are pretty cheap, so why not remove that little cotton/fiberglass wool/aluminum nozzle contraption from the top just to prove the slow burning flame isn't being fueled by the stuff inside the nozzle ?
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 15, 2010, 01:17:25 PM
A high amplitude transmitter signal of 1420405751.768 Hz(1420Mhz UHF) should cause Saltwater to spontaneously ignite, 1420MHz is the hyperfine resonate frequency of Hydrogen and the transmitted signal should directly interact with Hydrogen Molecules.
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: MasterPlaster on February 15, 2010, 02:32:47 PM
How can home microwave be modified to generate this frequency?

I could allways sneak in a small bottle of salt water in the local airport's naked body scanner
if I knew what frequency it emitts!
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: WilbyInebriated on February 15, 2010, 02:40:46 PM
Quote from: Bulbz on February 15, 2010, 12:45:12 PM
Plastic funnels are pretty cheap, so why not remove that little cotton/fiberglass wool/aluminum nozzle contraption from the top just to prove the slow burning flame isn't being fueled by the stuff inside the nozzle ?
it isn't being fueled by the fiberglass in the nozzle, but that's a great idea, let us know how it turns out for you...
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: CompuTutor on February 15, 2010, 03:39:04 PM
When I saw the vid that started this thread,
I thought of candle/lamp oil floating on the top.

But the better 91% rubbing alcohol
burns about like that for me too.

I tried my 70/30 stuff,
wasn't as impressive,
went out a lot too.
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: Bulbz on February 15, 2010, 07:09:19 PM
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on February 15, 2010, 02:40:46 PM
it isn't being fueled by the fiberglass in the nozzle, but that's a great idea, let us know how it turns out for you...

Once I get my shed built I might have a go at it, it could be fun I suppose.
Title: Re: Burning water not HHO?
Post by: Bulbz on February 15, 2010, 07:16:00 PM
I just watched the video that Cherryman posted at the beginning of this thread. I'm surprised the heat from the flame didn't break the glass  :-\