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Energy from Natural Resources => Electrolysis of H20 and Hydrogen on demand generation => Topic started by: CrazyEwok on May 22, 2009, 12:19:27 AM

Title: if its not "Brute Force" what is it.
Post by: CrazyEwok on May 22, 2009, 12:19:27 AM
Please correct me if i am wrong, but we call it brute force electrolysis because we force a current through the electrolyte correct? so what would we call it if your not forcing a current through it? If there was one side of your cell that had a surplus of charge at a low current and the other side was having the electrons stripped at a low current. with the electrons being "transported" from the side stripping them to the side that has the surplus. I would like some ideas on what to call said process
Title: Re: if its not "Brute Force" what is it.
Post by: mikemongo on May 22, 2009, 06:23:54 AM
Ewoktwalosys? ;D
Title: Re: if its not "Brute Force" what is it.
Post by: Farrah Day on May 22, 2009, 07:48:22 AM
Quote from: mikemongo on May 22, 2009, 06:23:54 AM
Ewoktwalosys? ;D

I love it!

We don't force a current through an electrolyte, the current is drawn by the difference in voltage potential of the electrodes.  Any difference in potential at the electrodes (or as you put it surplus electrons) will draw a current. Causing the water to ionise this way is referred to as 'brute force' however much current you draw - it's just a matter of quantity.

'Brute force' therefore, is simply a term to describe electrolysis that is current dependent, as opposed to other processes such as Meyer's or Kanzius's.
Title: Re: if its not "Brute Force" what is it.
Post by: mikemongo on May 22, 2009, 10:24:05 AM
I've had a similar idea, but have not tried it.

A SS screen electrode is isolated between the normal electrodes.

The cell is pulse driven. When the pulse is off, the screen
electrode(connected to a + potential through a load) is turned on to pull electrons out of the charged bath. 

If the load is a small light bulb, it should be easy to see if
the idea works.

Mikemongo
Title: Re: if its not "Brute Force" what is it.
Post by: CrazyEwok on May 25, 2009, 12:19:34 AM
so regardless of the voltage to ampere ratio its still called brute force... Interesting take...