K,
18 hours of shaping a magnet and I have this - comments very much welcome.....
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scottclarke/Movie11.wmv
highly compressed - if you need to see a higher res version say so - for now I'm going to replace the old mags with some neo's I'll source tomorrow - then close the loop.
Scott
ScottClarke, thanks for the video. It loads very fast and is of excellent quality. Will wait eagerly to see tomorrow's results. Good luck.
This is very interesting to see. I have like 300 1/8 x 1/8 neos i can probably try to duplicate this and see what i get. Can anyone come up with some measurements of a prototype? i had built a wheel that goes 300 degress but stops at last magnet. this might solve that problem. I have to try this.
Duranza,
You will need ferrites too. The magnet responsible for the 1way pull took 18 hours to shape. - If I had known the shape I needed it would have taken 1/2 hour!
This took over 12 months to get to this point. I obviously do not have measurements yet - they will come with time. The specifics will become puiblic knowledge - have no fear.
For now I have what I am certain can become a self runner with a slight excess. If/when this works I intend to reproduce a much larger multi rotor version that can generate some real power.
Understand I am not holding back anything at this point. Trial and error has led me to this and I simply do not have the specifics. I am not sure of the field shape, strength nor dimensions of the whole. My main concern is the shaped ferrite - without it there is no way it would work. Reproducing it will be troublesome - especially if using different shaped magnets. I do not have a source for these - I have had them for at least 10 years in the bottom of a tool box.
What I am certain of is that neo's all round will not work - been there done that!
Regards,
Scott
That's how i got the wheel to go 300 degrees... i used neos for the rotor and weaker ferrites for the stator. i have tryed to grind the last ferrite to make it go over the sticky spot but no luck. I like the ball bearing with the neo idea. I looks like it evenly spreads the flux around. I'll be very happy to see something come out of this.
Hi Scott,
This video is quite interesting. What is the polarity of the shaped magnet you are using? If it is what I'm thinking, then this gate bears a striking resembelance to the Johnson Magnetic gate. Is the small neo on the nail have the same pole facing out as the ceramic mag to the left of it?
Also what program did you use to compress that video?
God Bless,
Jason O
Hiya all,
5 minutes ago the test setup was pretty much destroyed:(
I have been out sourcing some magnets - nothing but neo's for sale nowadays it seems:(
Anyway, it took 5 hours of farting around with the neo's before I got anywhere - if I had used ceramics all the way round I am certain I would not have rushed to a finish. Final configuration included an additional ball and neo's opposite the other + holed ceramics covering those neo's
With all the magnets in place I gave the rotor a push, it rotated once slowly then it went berserk. It threw one ball and associated mags which took out the shaped magnet and the two to the right of it.
As regards polarity they all point the same way. It seems it's the interaction of those fields (especially with regard to those neo's on the ball) that allows for the crossing.
Finally, I am going to rebuild but want to do it with a single ball, for this I need large 1 inch square ceramics approx 1/4 thick - poles on the large faces. Someone please tell me where I can get some!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheers,
Scott
EDIT: program is windows movie maker - 150k stream. Cam is a Sony DSCP200 still camera
Hi Scott,
Here's a good cheap source for a bunch of ceramic magnets. I ordered some from this company and they were good quality.
Box of 400 ceramic magnets for $49.99. 3/4" x 1 7/8" x 1/4" thick.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Ceramic-Magnets-Block-style-400-pcs_W0QQitemZ7590784620QQcategoryZ1267QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Here's a set of 100 ceramic bar magnets 1.500" L x 0.375" W x 0.280" for $45.00 also.
http://cgi.ebay.com/100-Ceramic-bar-Magnets-1-50-long_W0QQitemZ8260155831QQcategoryZ75576QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I hope that will help you out.
As for your exploded motor. What happened? Did it spin out of control or did the magnet simple fly off the disk or something? And also, is the magnet you cut on polarized the same way as the other ceramic magnets you have or is is polarized through the length?
God Bless,
Jason O
Hello, I just viewed your video. Very impressive. I too have spent hundreds of hours attempting to build a permanent magnet motor without success.I too was once where you are now. With an apparently operational flux gate. However once I closed the loop it no longer worked. I hope that you have more sucess then I had. I had to quit working on my permanent magnet motor as I feared it was making me insane. I no longer spend my free time working on free energy devices as I can no longer justify the time and money. However I am still entertained by others attempts to do so. Best of luck to you.
Mad Scientist, can you explain more thoroughly what your ?operational flux gate? looked like? How did you close the loop that didn?t work when you closed it? Do you have a video from you experiments? Would be interesting to see it ...
very nice, will see what happens.
Quote from: Omnibus on February 20, 2006, 02:41:53 AM
Mad Scientist, can you explain more thoroughly what your ?operational flux gate? looked like? How did you close the loop that didn?t work when you closed it? Do you have a video from you experiments? Would be interesting to see it ...
My attempt at a permanent magnet motor was the same as Scott's as the strator magnet array got closer to the rotor at it went around. And the sticky spot was the point where the magnets on the stator were closest to the rotor just as in scott's motor. And just like scott I devised a very similar method using experimentation that allowed the rotor magnet to get past the sticky spot until I completed the stator magnet array and once I did that it attained equilibrium. It's all quite frustrating. I will be very surprised if scott's attempts at building this motor are sucessful. However with that said I will also be very very happy for him. If he is successful he will be the first. Others have claimed to have built one in the past but I am sceptical as to their success. If someone had ever been able to build one of these motors we would have seen them by now. Do I think that it is possable? Yes, I still do. However with that said I believe that a much greater understanding of the permanent magnet will be required. Such as a way to switch the magnet on and off with a very small amount of energy used if any. I'm sure that their has to be a way. Good luck to all. In the future I might take up another attempt at building another permanent magnet motor yet again I just need a bit of a break from it for a while so that maybe I can come up with a fresh new direction at witch to tackle this problem. Because god knows that we are all in desperate need of another energy source, I don't even want to think of what oil prices are going to be like in a decade or two. We have GOT TO SUCCEED AT THIS WE HAVE TO, SOMEONE DOES OR WE ARE ALL DOOMED DOOMED DOOMED.
?Such as a way to switch the magnet on and off with a very small amount of energy used if any.?
Mad Scientist, did you see Butch?s topic ?Video,pics,animation,Magnetic Fuel project now online? (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,748.0.html (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,748.0.html)), posted right below this one? Seems they have achieved this. What do you think?
Also, do you have any idea how Mike Brady has overcome this problem in his PERENDEV motor?
Quote from: Omnibus on February 20, 2006, 01:36:16 PM
?Such as a way to switch the magnet on and off with a very small amount of energy used if any.?
Mad Scientist, did you see Butch?s topic ?Video,pics,animation,Magnetic Fuel project now online? (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,748.0.html (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,748.0.html)), posted right below this one? Seems they have achieved this. What do you think?
I doubt that they have achieved anything other than building a unique electrical motor. Until I see hard hard evidence this is what I will continue to believe. The most desirable permanent magnet motor would be one that uses no electricity at all, only permanent magnets. Then NOBODY would be able to dispute it.
Quote from: Omnibus on February 20, 2006, 02:03:13 PM
Also, do you have any idea how Mike Brady has overcome this problem in his PERENDEV motor?
Who is Mike Brady? I have not been following his research. What is it that he claims to have done?
Regarding Mike Brady, take a look here: http://www.perendev-power.com/My_Homepage_Files/Page4.html (http://www.perendev-power.com/My_Homepage_Files/Page4.html). He claims he already has a 300kW working magnetic motor which is going to be for sale sometime March or April. I spoke with him on the phone on Saturday and he confirmed that.
Quote from: Omnibus on February 20, 2006, 04:26:33 PM
Regarding Mike Brady, take a look here: http://www.perendev-power.com/My_Homepage_Files/Page4.html (http://www.perendev-power.com/My_Homepage_Files/Page4.html). He claims he already has a 300kW working magnetic motor which is going to be for sale sometime March or April. I spoke with him on the phone on Saturday and he confirmed that.
Probably just another con artist. Where is he located? PM me his phone number I would like to talk to him myself.
The address and the phone number are found on his site: http://www.perendev-power.com/My_Homepage_Files/Page3.html. Did you see the video?
Quote from: Omnibus on February 20, 2006, 05:03:21 PM
The address and the phone number are found on his site: http://www.perendev-power.com/My_Homepage_Files/Page3.html. Did you see the video?
Video's can be faked. So, how did your conversation with him go? What types of questions did you ask him and what did he tell you?
See, I don't tend to believe this video might be a fake. It would be too blatant. He must be out of his mind to do that. Besides, the results of Jean-Louis Naudin with the SMOT have convinced me of the viability of producing excess energy with magnets. The difficulties in manufacturing a motor based on that principle I believe are only contructional and not in the principle. Probably, the originator of this topic ScottClarke is also on his way, as far as I can tell from his video.
As far as the conversation goes, I asked Mike Brady if I can come to Munich and observe the working of the motor. He said that thousands of people are calling him wishing to see the motor working and it will not be at all practical to do that (I'm telling you the gist of what he said, not the exact words). It is much better to wait until the announcement on the TV is done sometime in March or April and then the motor can be purchased from his company. It will cost on the order of 25,000 euros. I don't see how anyone can give that much money without first ascertaining that the motor really works. I was also curious about the smaller 20mW model but he said they have discontinued it already.
I also wanted to give my name and telephone number, in case he wanted to know who has called him but he said the best way to do that and ask questions is to send him an e-mail which I did. I also invited him to come to New York City to make a demo of the motor (he will have to pay for the airfare and I will arrange for the other details here in New York City). So far I've got no reply from him but only two days have passed since I wrote him the e-mail.
Taken the vid down in preparation for another one.
This next one is not the motor running - just proof (as good as a vid can be) that it can run.
Posting shortly.
Scott
Here you go - note only 2 balls have magnets on them. Normally one would assume it couldn't run if you add that magnet and that's why it is missing. This is not the case. Pay close attention, the first part of the movie shows a worst case scenario - the second part is the test people 'normally' do. Nothing changed during filming - you have to take my word on that for now........ The reason for the missing magnet? I'll leave you to ponder.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scottclarke/Movie500.wmv
Scott
Thanks Scott. Excellent experiment. Congratulations. You?re almost there. Why didn?t you put one more gate, have the three balls with magnets and had it done over with?
Omnibus,
When I put the other magnet on there is not a lot to see.
Currently working on loading the motor coils up.
Scott
I take it you've been successful in having it run continuously and now are preparing to use it to generate electricity. Is that it? Are you going to post another video showing it running?
Next video will show it lighting a lamp of some sort - probably an LED.
Scott
Quote from: ScottClarke on February 20, 2006, 10:23:07 PM
Omnibus,
When I put the other magnet on there is not a lot to see.
Currently working on loading the motor coils up.
Scott
Scott, You're still no further then I have gotten, so i'm still skeptical. But keep working at it. I will look forward to you next video. Good luck.
Omnibus, I have built dozens of SMOT ramps and performed very precise measurements with them. An SMOT ramp produces NO ENERGY GAIN. It's an illusion. The ball appears to be rolling uphill but in fact is rolling down a magnetic hill. It cannot escape the pull of the magnets at the end of the ramp unless allowed to fall to a lower point then it started at. I have spent hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars in my quest for a permanent magnet motor and what do I have to show for it? Just a large collection of worthless magnets collecting dust in my shop. Maybe some day I will get them back out and play with them again.
Quote from: ScottClarke on February 20, 2006, 11:25:39 PM
Next video will show it lighting a lamp of some sort - probably an LED.
Scott
Using only a partial rotation? Or continous rotation?
I have to admit, Scott's work is starting to get me ramped back up again. I'm thinking about getting my magnet collection back out again. GOD i LOVE THIS STUFF!!
guy's, its running. Not fast and I'm not sure the little HD motor is going to generate anything usefull, maybe in the mv range.
Scott
Quote from: ScottClarke on February 20, 2006, 11:36:17 PM
guy's, its running. Not fast and I'm not sure the little HD motor is going to generate anything usefull, maybe in the mv range.
Scott
:-*
Stop the press!!
Did I read that correctly????
It is running? As in rotating over and over and over???
Please please please post a video of this ASAP. Screw the LED light, I just want to see it run so that I know it's possable. Please please please
Quote from: ScottClarke on February 20, 2006, 11:36:17 PM
guy's, its running. Not fast and I'm not sure the little HD motor is going to generate anything usefull, maybe in the mv range.
Scott
You see Scott, I am much much more interested in the research of people like you. Why? Because you remind me of me and I hope that you suceed. When people ask me if I heard about this company or that company that built one I couldn't care less. Why you may wonder? Because I KNOW it's a scam. And I always root for the underdog anyways. If someone like you can build something like this at your home that will run continously and produce free energy no matter how small of an amount, what difference does it make? It's a start isn't it? And that's exactly what this world needs, a new start. Plus I also hope that you would do what I would do and give away the knowlege so that other can replicate it over and over. That way nobody can keep it bottled up and the oil companys and the luminati will finally be powerless and defeated.
Mad Scientist, SMOT produces excess energy. Imagine you have the ball somewhere beneath the device ? that is the ball?s initial position. You spend energy when lifting it from its initial position to the device input. The device lifts the ball up the ramp for which you spend no work. At the end of the ramp the ball falls under the action of its own weight to the initial position it had at the onset. At that, the energy you spent lifting it is restored and an additional energy (excess energy) equal to the energy needed to lift the ball up the ramp is returned as a ?present?.
You may repeat this whole process and obtain an additional portion of this ?present? (excess energy) and so on.
Here, however, we are about to witness for the first time continuous production of this excess energy and that is nothing less than a historic event. Scott, we are all holding our breaths.
Quote from: Omnibus on February 20, 2006, 11:52:36 PM
Mad Scientist, SMOT produces excess energy. Imagine you have the ball somewhere beneath the device ? that is the ball?s initial position. You spend energy when lifting it from its initial position to the device input. The device lifts the ball up the ramp for which you spend no work. At the end of the ramp the ball falls under the action of its own weight to the initial position it had at the onset. At that, the energy you spent lifting it is restored and an additional energy (excess energy) equal to the energy needed to lift the ball up the ramp is returned as a ?present?.
You may repeat this whole process and obtain an additional portion of this ?present? (excess energy) and so on.
Here, however, we are about to witness for the first time continuous production of this excess energy and that is nothing less than a historic event. Scott, we are all holding our breaths.
Yes, ha ha, Indeed we are all holding our breaths.
As for the SMOT, I hear ya, I hear ya, but, show me one person who has extracted any of this free energy that you speak of?
What do you mean by ?extracted?? The excess energy is being extracted with the SMOT every time the experiment is carried out. Excess energy is produced (extracted) periodically also in the experiment Scott has shown us so far in his videos. These are laboratory experiments done for scientific purposes, to prove the effect, to prove the principle. If, however, you mean extracted for practical purposes, no scientific experiment does that. Of course, these effects, already proven experimentally, may be used to make practical devices if someone wants to do it. That?s the trivial part.
Even the experiment we are waiting to be shown by Scott for continuous extraction of excess energy will not do it for practical purposes. If he succeeds, it will be the first public demonstration that I know of, of a continuous production of excess energy using magnets. But even if he doesn?t succeed, the ability of the SMOT and of the devices in the videos Scott already posted, to produce excess energy periodically, will still be real.
Hi Omnibus!
First i want to say: Sorry for my bad english.
Second... I think i exactly know how the discontinued 3-flywheel design Perendev motor works. I am not 100% sure, because i not replicated, and tested it yet... However i upgraded the principle in the past four months.
I have almost completed the plans, and will began to fabricating in the end of this week. I think i would complete the experiment at the second half march. And after it's completed, i hope i can give you useful informations in this case, permanent magnetic motors.
I think i found the same conclusions, and the same way as Mike Brady found long years before. But i am thinking about this type of PM motors only the past 4-5 months. So, when i am right, it's not bad. ;)
At the moment i am 90% sure my design is possible to work, but i want to see first what happens, before say anything about it.
Hope i can create a working only permanent magnetic motor.
Good luck, all for you!
Regards, Greg
I want to see the VIDEO!!!
I'm not very into all this free energy stuff, but as far as I know, what you claim to have would make possible all those damn things we're dreaming of.
PS: when you have all this... is it possible to get a little demonstration unit?
:-)
Greetz
Filewriter
Nice job Scott. I guess you recovered from the magnet being destroyed. How did you shape the magnet so i can try and duplicate it? I have a wheel already that just needs to get over the starting magnets sticky spot. Please use MS PAINT and draw us a shape with pole orientation. Thanks!
I hope Scott is soon posting his video, where he has got it to run contineously.
Congratulations Scott and keep the video coming !
Regards, Stefan.
Quote from: Omnibus on February 21, 2006, 09:06:32 AM
What do you mean by ?extracted?? The excess energy is being extracted with the SMOT every time the experiment is carried out. Excess energy is produced (extracted) periodically also in the experiment Scott has shown us so far in his videos. These are laboratory experiments done for scientific purposes, to prove the effect, to prove the principle. If, however, you mean extracted for practical purposes, no scientific experiment does that. Of course, these effects, already proven experimentally, may be used to make practical devices if someone wants to do it. That?s the trivial part.
Even the experiment we are waiting to be shown by Scott for continuous extraction of excess energy will not do it for practical purposes. If he succeeds, it will be the first public demonstration that I know of, of a continuous production of excess energy using magnets. But even if he doesn?t succeed, the ability of the SMOT and of the devices in the videos Scott already posted, to produce excess energy periodically, will still be real.
The only type of energy that interest me is the kind that I can use. Electrons spin round and round the nucleus of an atom without any fuel or energy. There are lots of types of free energy, but I just want a motor that will run without fuel so that I can power my house and maybe an electric car. But I still am skeptical about the motor of Scott's. How many times have we heard someone come onto one of these types of forums and do this very thing? Many times. They blow smoke up our asses and see how high we jump, works every single time. They either leave us all hanging waiting for the confirmation that they promised us or they say that they cannot reveal the secret or whatever. It's always something. Never fails. I will be very surprised if this time is any different. However, with that said I hope more than anything that I am wrong and I am still holding my breathe with the rest of you on this one.
?The only type of energy that interest me is the kind that I can use.?
The excess energy which is periodically extracted from the SMOT and from the device Scott showed in his videos is the type of energy you can use. The principle has been confirmed and now it?s up to you to find a way to put it into practical use.
?Electrons spin round and round the nucleus of an atom without any fuel or energy.?
No, this is only a primitive picture from the high school textbooks. Modern understanding does not involve mechanical spinning of electrons around nucleus. The information for the electron is extracted from a psi-function which is a solution to the Schrodinger?s equation and has nothing to do with mechanical motion.
?There are lots of types of free energy?
So far, as far as magnets are concerned, I have only seen confirmations in two cases ? SMOT and Scott?s movies. In general, one other example is with a combined cathode-anode electrolysis cell. No other claims so far are viable in my opinion.
?but I just want a motor that will run without fuel so that I can power my house and maybe an electric car.?
That?s a trivial consequence from a viable principle. Not very interesting. 57 years ago noone had a compute on his desk although some people knew the principle was there.
?They blow smoke up our asses and see how high we jump, works every single time. They either leave us all hanging waiting for the confirmation that they promised us or they say that they cannot reveal the secret or whatever.?
Not so in Scott?s case. He showed us in two videos the periodic production of excess energy. For a skillful person with talent in engineering that is enough to make a practical device.
What remains for Scott to show us is the continuous production of excess energy which he said he has achieved. However, even if he doesn?t demonstrate it, it doesn?t mean that he hasn?t shown us one principle of production of excess heat. In that sense he did not fail. Obviously he?s a man of great talent and determination and I admire him.
Whoa - hold on people!
The motor will run again and you will see video. When I post it you will be left with no doubt as to it's authenticity. I won't post video that leaves questions, nor will I post fakes.
I have taken a day off - been rather unwell since getting it going - heart racing and blood pressure near 200. Never guessed at those effects..........
I have decided to rebuild it on a glass platter. Further - An anomally occured when I was tidying last night. Gave the wheel a spin (you know - check it's real) and it failed to clear 300 degrees. The 3 balls are identical but after swapping bits around it was clear something was different about this ball. Ferrofluid showed nothing of interest........
The only thing I can think is that whilst at rest 2 of the balls can sit in a position surrounded by poles whilst the third is in the free zone and fully subject to the onboard neo's effect only.
Thats what I put it down to - saturation - though it can't simply be that or the FF would show it.
Obviously something going on here - can anyone enlighten me please?
I have lots more balls so a swap won't be a problem.
For now - well tomorrow I am going to get a hole cut in glass or perspex then start the rebuild.
Interestingly, when it was setup and ran perfectly it could also almost run backwards................
The cut on the ceramic.......... words will do. start by grinding a whole corner to clear the ball - so the arc formed is 1/4rd the ball diameter and the full thickness of the magnet. Now take off one face only leaving the pointy end (arc) sharp yet either side 2mm or so thick. The angle formed is perhaps 25 degrees.
When I video the new run I will also supply high res pics.
Scott
Scott, don't you have the old setup running? Never mind it will leave questions, post the video as is.
Quote from: Omnibus on February 21, 2006, 05:54:42 PM
?The only type of energy that interest me is the kind that I can use.?
The excess energy which is periodically extracted from the SMOT and from the device Scott showed in his videos is the type of energy you can use. The principle has been confirmed and now it?s up to you to find a way to put it into practical use.
?Electrons spin round and round the nucleus of an atom without any fuel or energy.?
No, this is only a primitive picture from the high school textbooks. Modern understanding does not involve mechanical spinning of electrons around nucleus. The information for the electron is extracted from a psi-function which is a solution to the Schrodinger?s equation and has nothing to do with mechanical motion.
?There are lots of types of free energy?
So far, as far as magnets are concerned, I have only seen confirmations in two cases ? SMOT and Scott?s movies. In general, one other example is with a combined cathode-anode electrolysis cell. No other claims so far are viable in my opinion.
?but I just want a motor that will run without fuel so that I can power my house and maybe an electric car.?
That?s a trivial consequence from a viable principle. Not very interesting. 57 years ago noone had a compute on his desk although some people knew the principle was there.
?They blow smoke up our asses and see how high we jump, works every single time. They either leave us all hanging waiting for the confirmation that they promised us or they say that they cannot reveal the secret or whatever.?
Not so in Scott?s case. He showed us in two videos the periodic production of excess energy. For a skillful person with talent in engineering that is enough to make a practical device.
What remains for Scott to show us is the continuous production of excess energy which he said he has achieved. However, even if he doesn?t demonstrate it, it doesn?t mean that he hasn?t shown us one principle of production of excess heat. In that sense he did not fail. Obviously he?s a man of great talent and determination and I admire him.
Who do you think that you are talking to?????????
I repeat in case you did not hear me the first time. Scott has NOT ACHIEVED ANTHING AS OF YET THAT I HAVE NOT ALREADY ACHIEVED MYSELF. NOTHING!!!!! I have built near permanent magnet motors that have WAY out performed what I have already witnessed on his so called video's of proof. I too at one time thought just like he, I performed experiments and had apparently built a functional flux gate. But once I closed the loop it quit working. What he thinks to be his flux gate is probably an area of lower gauss despite it's closer proximity to the rotor when compared to the other magnets in his array. All his rotor is probably doing is moving from an area of low gauss to an area of higher gauss, the proximity of the magnets to the rotor is irrelevant. I am no rookie in this area Omnibus. But I can tell that you are. There is no way that you would speak the way that you do if you have done all of the research into this matter as I have done. What have you done anyways? Anything? I doubt it. Which explains why you are so nieve.
Now, as far as the SMOT goes. I have said it before and I shall say it again and again and again, there is NO, I repeat, No energy produced by the SMOT. I have built dozens of SMOT ramps, dozens omnibus not one or two. Every size and shape that you can imagine. I even had one that was over two feet long weighing over 50lbs and had over $500.00 worth of magnets in it. It would roll a large steel ball up the ramp but no matter how big of an SMOT that I built, I could never get the steel ball to a point that was higher then what it started. But, I know what you are thinking, "but there is horizontal movement, that must be proof of energy being produced" I tested that hypothesis too. I built a wheel that would attempt to extract some energy from the ball as it passed by on its way up the ramp. And it worked, it extracted some energy, but guess what else? The more energy I took from the ball on it's way up the ramp, the lower a point the ball had to end up at on the exit in order to escape the magnetic field at the end of the ramp. I'm telling you, I have tried EVERYTHING AND I MEAN EVERYTHING to get energy from an SMOT. All an SMOT is, is a fancy way to move a ball from a higher point to a lower point. If an SMOT really produced excess energy of any kind then the ball would exit the ramp at a height that was equal to or higher then it's starting point. This has never been achieved BY ANYONE. I even thought, "OK so the ball wants to exit at a lower point then what it started, then I will just let it go lower and lower as it passes from one ramp to another and stop trying to fight it and I will just link a bunch of them together and build up the horizontal speed" Then guess what happened? Did the speed build up? Sure it did, allot. So then I took that array of ramps that went lower and lower with each one and beside that I set a track without any magnets in proximity to it and rolled a ball down that track beside my SMOT array. It was a race, both balls started at the same height, one ball was assisted by the SMOT ramps as the ball fell lower and the other was just allowed to fall by the force of gravity alone. Guess which one won? The gravity powered one, not the one that had gravity and the SMOT ramps both. The SMOT took energy from the ball, they did not add any to it at all!!! ? SMOT argument over, I win you lose, deal with it rookie. You speak of things that you have NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEDE OF WHATSOEVER. Once you have spent thousands of dollars and hundreds upon hundreds of hours of your free time on the SMOT subject as I have done, THEN I will listen to what you have to say. I am probably one of the FOREMOST experts on the SMOT. Simply because I know how much effort I have put into the idea and I doubt that many others have put forth an effort that equals or exceeds my own. I was at one time MUCH MUCH more confident about the fact that the SMOT produced energy. Even more so then you are. Much more so, why do you think that I put so much time and effort into it? Obviously because I felt that I could get it to work. But an energy gain has never been confirmed by anyone, anywhere in any laboratory or anywhere else. SMOT case closed.
Now, if you want to praise Scott for being a man of great talent and determination, then that's fine, but I suggest that you hold your praise and applause until he actually succeeds.
I don't have anything against free energy research such as this, quite the contrary, I love this stuff, I just get annoyed when people like you talk down to people like me when I know allot more about this subject then what I am willing to share or that you could possably imagine. There is no substitute for experience. And in the suject of permanent magnet motors I have over ten years worth of research, thousands of dollars, and hundreds of hours of my life invested thus far, how bout you??????
Oh dear, I'll just toddle of now if you don't mind.
Quote from: ScottClarke on February 21, 2006, 06:19:35 PM
Further - An anomally occured when I was tidying last night. Gave the wheel a spin (you know - check it's real) and it failed to clear 300 degrees. The 3 balls are identical but after swapping bits around it was clear something was different about this ball. Ferrofluid showed nothing of interest........
The only thing I can think is that whilst at rest 2 of the balls can sit in a position surrounded by poles whilst the third is in the free zone and fully subject to the onboard neo's effect only.
Thats what I put it down to - saturation - though it can't simply be that or the FF would show it.
Obviously something going on here - can anyone enlighten me please?
Scott
Unmagnatized metal will become magnetic if kept in the proximity of a magnetic field for a long enough time. Which is probably what has occured. The only successfull magnet motors that have been built rely on this for their operation. Once the nonmagnetic material becomes magnetized the motor will stop running and the metal objects either have to be replaced to heated red hot and then replaced to get the motor to work again. Most of these motors do not run for very long. But it's still a good start in my opinion. SO don't get discouraged by it. If this is indeed what you have, then you are not the first to build such a motor. What you have is a difference in potential between the unmagnetized material and the magnetized material. All things tend toward equilibrium and once the metal has been magnetized then an equilibrium has been attained and the motor will not work anymore. But like I said, if this is what you have you should be very proud because it's my opinion that this is the ONLY type of permanent magnet motor that can be built. I would love to have been able to build a permanent magnet motor even of this type even if the magnets/steel balls had to be replaced every few days, it would still have it's uses in my opinion.
"Scott has NOT ACHIEVED ANTHING AS OF YET THAT I HAVE NOT ALREADY ACHIEVED MYSELF. NOTHING!!!!!"
Seeing is believing. Show a video as Scott did and then we'll talk.
@ Mad Scientist
Scott has probablyonly just removed the 3rd magnet from the 3rd steel ball.
Probably if he just puts it back onto the ball, the device will keep on spinning !
He is afraid of showing this video to us.
What was the first video of ?
As he has deleted it already, I have not seen his Movie11.wmv
Can somebody please upload it over here ?
Please just attach it to a reply message.
Thanks.
P.S: You MUST NOT close the magnetic loop,
so he was right just to have the stator at one side of the rotor.
If you have a closed path stator all the fields will cancel out.
With magnets all depends on exact proportions and the right
distances and field setups...!
Regards, Stefan.
Quote from: hartiberlin on February 21, 2006, 07:09:19 PM
@ Mad Scientist
Scott has probablyonly just removed the 3rd magnet from the 3rd steel ball.
Probably if he just puts it back onto the ball, the device will keep on spinning !
He is afraid of showing this video to us.
What was the first video of ?
As he has deleted it already, I have not seen his Movie11.wmv
Can somebody please upload it over here ?
Please just attach it to a reply message.
Thanks.
P.S: You MUST NOT close the magnetic loop,
so he was right just to have the stator at one side of the rotor.
If you have a closed path stator all the fields will cancel out.
With magnets all depends on exact proportions and the right
distances and field setups...!
Regards, Stefan.
I have his first video, How can I upload that to you Stefan?
Just press the REPLY button and attach it in the lower attachment form,
which searches it on your harddrive. Many thanks.
P.S: Don?t use the Quick Reply window !
?It would roll a large steel ball up the ramp but no matter how big of an SMOT that I built, I could never get the steel ball to a point that was higher then what it started.?
How is it that the steel ball rolled up the ramp and it never got higher than when it started?
?But, I know what you are thinking, "but there is horizontal movement, that must be proof of energy being produced" I tested that hypothesis too.?
No, this is not what I?m thinking. I?m thinking that the ball goes up the ramp, as you say, therefore its potential energy becomes higher spontaneously, without you spending work for that increase.
?And it worked, it extracted some energy, but guess what else? The more energy I took from the ball on it's way up the ramp, the lower a point the ball had to end up at on the exit in order to escape the magnetic field at the end of the ramp.?
So what? As I explained before, you can place the ball beneath the device (this we?ll call the ball?s ?initial position?) then you?ll spend energy to lift it to the input of the device. Then the device will spontaneously lift the ball up the ramp, thus spontaneously endowing it with an additional energy. Finally, the ball will reach the end of the ramp, will fall under the action of its own weight to its "initial position? at which it will recover the energy you spent and will produce as ?present? excess energy ? the energy it was endowed with while the magnetic field was spontaneously pulling it up the ramp.
?All an SMOT is, is a fancy way to move a ball from a higher point to a lower point.?
On the contrary, you said yourself that the SMOT moves the ball up the ramp, that is from a lower point to a higher point.
?If an SMOT really produced excess energy of any kind then the ball would exit the ramp at a height that was equal to or higher then it's starting point.?
SMOT does exactly that.
Thus, based on your experience, which you just shared, not mine, SMOT does produce excess energy.
hartiberlin, here's the video ...
SMOT ramps to my experience must be built at least 50 cms or longer so you could get at least
10 cms or higher height difference and can get a rollaway when the ball just falls only less than 10 cm down.
ALso you have to "design" the exit point with lots of asymmentrical iron cores so you distort the fields
there to have a real near ZERO fluxdensity field there.
You just build it very big to see the effects.
But please let?s us concentrate onto Scott?s motor in this topic.
If you want to discuss the SMOT, please add your posting to the SMOT postings.
Thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
P.S: Thanks for uploading his first video.
It seems he had brushed off a corner of magnet to make a triangular magnet.
hartiberlin, I take Scott's design as a practical application of a SMOT principle, for continuously producing of excess energy. That SMOT produces excess energy periodically is beyond any doubt, as I explained.
Just a question... if I can ask one without being flamed... :D
If the loop is closed and this device will rotate forever... what strength of magnets will be necessary to turn a generator?
Assuming that is the next step to producing power. Or is it?
Quote from: Omnibus on February 21, 2006, 07:29:32 PM
?It would roll a large steel ball up the ramp but no matter how big of an SMOT that I built, I could never get the steel ball to a point that was higher then what it started.?
How is it that the steel ball rolled up the ramp and it never got higher than when it started?
.
Obviously you have misunderstood me. What I meant was that not matter how big of an SMOT that I built, I could never get the steel ball to EXIT at a point that was higher then what it started at. But I am fairly certain that you knew that this was what I meant all along. I'm not going to address your other concerns as you are obviously in the mood for a debate whereas I am not, LOL. Sorry to dissappoint you.
Ok, maybe there is some sort of energy being diplayed by the SMOT HELL I DON'T KNOW. I would like to think that there is as much as you, but without some sort of hard evidence to this fact, I cannot agree.
That is all I will budge for now. But please, prove me wrong and start your own SMOT research. Instead of relying on others to base your opinions off of.
Yes Stefan, I agree, we should stay on topic. So let's save the SMOT debate for another day shall we?
Quote from: Elvis Oswald on February 21, 2006, 08:07:44 PM
Just a question... if I can ask one without being flamed... :D
If the loop is closed and this device will rotate forever... what strength of magnets will be necessary to turn a generator?
Assuming that is the next step to producing power.? Or is it?
The answer to your question would depend on the size of your generator and the amount of excess power that the motor produces, if any.
?What I meant was that not matter how big of an SMOT that I built, I could never get the steel ball to EXIT at a point that was higher then what it started at.?
This is not what the SMOT does (cf. http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/smotidx.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/smotidx.htm) and the video therein). As seen from the link, the ball in a SMOT exits at a higher point than it was started at. Up the ramp is up the ramp, not down the ramp.
The effect seen in the SMOT is in principle the same as in Scott's device, therefore, discussing SMOT is not out of place here.
I think the key to produce power is not to scale up, but make lots of small working units and tie them together to produce the desired power level. I say this because some units lose their "magical touch" or they stop working when they are altered in any way. I would like to see the wheel run and then i'll get into getting power from it.
Quote from: Omnibus on February 21, 2006, 08:20:35 PM
?What I meant was that not matter how big of an SMOT that I built, I could never get the steel ball to EXIT at a point that was higher then what it started at.?
This is not what the SMOT does (cf. http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/smotidx.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/smotidx.htm) and the video therein). As seen from the link, the ball in a SMOT exits at a higher point than it was started at. Up the ramp is up the ramp, not down the ramp.
The effect seen in the SMOT is in principle the same as in Scott's device, therefore, discussing SMOT is not out of place here.
Ha ha, yes, but it will not escape the magnetic flux at the end of the ramp without the drop. When are you going to get into actual SMOT research omnibus? So that we can all work TOGETHER to solve the problems. Arguing over things doesn't help anything. I like the debate but the actual hands on research will bare more fruit.
Quote from: Duranza on February 21, 2006, 09:14:22 PM
I think the key to produce power is not to scale up, but make lots of small working units and tie them together to produce the desired power level. I say this because some units lose their "magical touch" or they stop working when they are altered in any way. I would like to see the wheel run and then i'll get into getting power from it.
My thoughts exactly!!
"Ha ha, yes, but it will not escape the magnetic flux at the end of the ramp without the drop."
Of course not. Who says otherwise? Read my explanation again.
Quote from: Omnibus on February 21, 2006, 09:31:24 PM
"Ha ha, yes, but it will not escape the magnetic flux at the end of the ramp without the drop."
Of course not. Who says otherwise? Read my explanation again.
How old are you? Don't you have anything better to do then annoy me and destroy this topic with OFF topic posts? Your posts have went from being about energy research to being more about seeing how much you can annoy me. Drop it. I'm done dicussing this matter with you. What little respect I had for you is now gone. You questions to me from this point on will go unanswered so don't bother.
Scott, I eargerly await your next video.
As I said, discussing SMOT is not offtopic. The principles behind Scott?s motor are largely those of the SMOT device which, beyond any doubt, generates excess energy discontinuously. What everyone now is waiting for is to see Scott?s achievement (this is his personal achievement and nobody else?s) of continuously producing excess energy.
I think you guys probably need to get to grips with the fact I don't get any glee from showing off my creations. No-one has seen my big lifters for eg - I don't have any urge to big-up myself.
Same goes here - I do stuff for personal achievement, nothing more. I know you guys have played with smots, this wheel started life as a smot ramp 3 weeks ago - I went to sleep and decided to put the ball on a wheel - nothing more. The initial results on the wheel looked very promising so I went to work developing it - found this forum via Stefans old yahoo group (a member for years) and decided to post the first wheel vid. Hey, I found it interesting I thought you would too!
I really don't think posting the video I had would really achieve anything - I could easily have a brushless esc under the wood powering the thing. See - I have seen the fakes - I've heard the story - I know full well I could be faking it - as it is.
Tell you what - pretend all I've done is posted the video's. Compare it to SMOT - that would be a good start - it IS a 2 ramp smot.
While you think about that you might like to tinker with some SS balls whilst I prepare a version which discloses fully everything about the unit.
Some points.
The stator neo's are on flexible mounts - they move and follow the ball like little fingers - THINK about that and the balls relationship to it's own neo - flux gradients and all.
The rotor must have mass for it to get over the low power zones without stopping - just like a 4-stroker.
Scott
Scott, the most important thing is to take care of yourself. You don?t need to feel under pressure and to fall sick. So far you?ve done a great job and, as I said, I admire you greatly even for what you?ve done so far. Just relax.
i can't wait any longer! lol
scott ???
i have some neos here but they are too big and too strong to work with :-\ and i don't have the tools.
*will need to buy some smaller ones
Hey Scott.. Where have you gone.. I have been trying to replicate this and i just give up.. It is just not working. Well i hope you are still doing ok, and hope to hear from you soon.
As Scott is pretty busy rebuilding the motor ,
I am posting his last 3 emails to me:
Stefan - I chipped away at the magnet to get the shape.
Retreating magnets - on my design that magnet which is moving away from the
stator in the nill flux zone.
The stator magnets are free to move around +/-2mm u/d/l/r
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Hartmann" <hartiberlin@gmx.de>
To: "SC" <scottclarke@ntlworld.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: Motor...
> From: "SC" <scottclarke@ntlworld.com>
> To: "Stefan Hartmann" <hartiberlin@gmx.de>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 2:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Motor rpm?
>
>
>> Stefan,
>>
>> Yes you do need the triangle projection toward the ball. It will almost
>> run
>> without but it does form the 'gate' so without it - no way it will run.
>>
>> Yep, a neo on each ball in exactly the right spot does it.
>
> I see.
> Did you brush off a magnet?s corner or is this just a triangular iron
> core
> attached to a normal magnet ?`
>
>>
>> Using power to overcome the stick - I believe a Japanese company have
>> such a
>> motor - the power nullifies the magnets force - it does not reverse it.
>> It
>> seems to me this alone is a way to excess energy - yet vastly more
>> complicated than some neo's on balls:)
>
> Yes, their design has costed all in all until now around 1/2 million US$
> with all the trials and errors and high tech measurement system.
> They are building a bigger motor now, which should selfrun
> in about 4 month.
>
>
>
>> Like I have said - inertia is a major
>> factor - so too is field interaction with retreating magnets.
>
> What do you mean by "retreating magnets" ?
> Do your stator magnets move back and forth ?
> or the rotor magnets ?
>
>
>
>>These I
>> believe to be the reasons for many failures. I know they have prevented
>> me
>> from using 1/8 neo's on a 3.3inch HD platter. In fact I will go as far as
>> to
>> say I believe togther they have been the reason for the many failures of
>> mine over the past 5 years.
>>
>> I'm going to rebuild it on glass.....
Stefan,
I did not measure the rpm though it did run for over 1 hour so I am sure it
works. My last version with a single ball did over speed and destroy itself.
This one uses compliant magnet mounts on the stator and VERY carefull
positioning of the neo's on the balls to run at all. If the mags are moved
by 1mm it will not run. I have added the balls to better study the concept -
a side effect is it has slowed down - a lot. A guess at rpm would be 100. If
I was to stiffen the magnet holders the rpm would increase but then I can't
observe what happens. At low rpm's the magnets swing through 15 degrees as
the ball passes............
It does not always run - it has to be started by hand - there are 3
'sticking' spots. To start the motor has to be reversed or advanced till a
ball is just prior to the gate - from here it pings forward. I have learned
much in the past week - one word - flywheel. Just like a 4 stroke with no
moving mass (flywheel) cannot run nor can a magnet powered device run which
relies on a short power stroke or short power off stroke. If the rotor has
little mass it can't overcome the 'lump' or 'void' created. Many (all?)
people do not truly understand the balls function - people really should
have a play with some.
Yes I removed the magnet for the movie. I figured that movie - in particular
the very first segment showed that it would run had I added the other
magnet. And no - I do not have video of it running - that would be
worthless - it proves nothing. The concept is sound - thats why I posted the
movie I did.
Aerial photography, yes I run a heli (Logo10) and a fixed wing. The cam is
moveable and tracks my head movements - the image is downlinked to a 5 inch
monitor under my chin. It's a real business, ezeAP, but this time of year is
no good for pics so I spend time fixing machinery for people - or inventing
solutions. Logo10 weighs 2KG all up and the aircraft weighs 1KG. I really
only use the heli when I have to - which is rarely. Much too risky to
overfly crowds - which I have to do a lot of. Much of the video and many of
the pics I have been commisioned to do have been crowds doing something -
watching, queing, playing etc.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Hartmann" <hartiberlin@gmx.de>
To: <scottclarke@ntlworld.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:38 AM
Subject: Motor rpm?
> Hi Scott,
> what do you get as the maximum RPM ?
> Does the motor spin up,
> if not braked ?
> Will it self destroy if there is no load on it ?
>
> Did you just remove the 3rd magnet from the steel
> ball for the Movie500.wmv ?
> Be proud of yourself and please show us the selfrunning motor.
Stefan,
Yes you do need the triangle projection toward the ball. It will almost run
without but it does form the 'gate' so without it - no way it will run.
Yep, a neo on each ball in exactly the right spot does it.
Using power to overcome the stick - I believe a Japanese company have such a
motor - the power nullifies the magnets force - it does not reverse it. It
seems to me this alone is a way to excess energy - yet vastly more
complicated than some neo's on balls:) Like I have said - inertia is a major
factor - so too is field interaction with retreating magnets. These I
believe to be the reasons for many failures. I know they have prevented me
from using 1/8 neo's on a 3.3inch HD platter. In fact I will go as far as to
say I believe togther they have been the reason for the many failures of
mine over the past 5 years.
I'm going to rebuild it on glass.....
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Hartmann" <hartiberlin@gmx.de>
To: "SC" <scottclarke@ntlworld.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: Motor rpm?
> Hi Scott, thanks for the fast answer.
> Is the triangular magnet a must, that you have
> created by brsuhing off a corner of a magnet ?
>
> So does it just run with 3 neos attached to the 3 balls ?
>
> Try to document the running motor as much as possible
> and videotape this.
> Maybe you can show, how you handstart the motor and that it keeps
> on running for 1 minute or so on video.
> That would be okay, I guess.
>
Thanks for the new info Stefan.
Another ?thank you? to you, Stefan. Like you said, a 1min video demo of the self-running motor will do. Eagerly waiting ...
Hi Scott,
I'm trying to figure out how you have your magnets arranged to make the gate.
I did a drawing.
Have I gotten close?
Are the polarities right?
Scott, are you following the developments with Wesley Snyder? I wonder what happened with your experiment?
Yeah, cmon scott, your videos totally made me want to try this out as well *ordering magnets on ebay this very moment* This thread seems to have just died, whats the deal?
I guess people are moving on. I really want to try this myself!
I have been waiting for Scott to post back.. No luck .. I have made a small replica but it doesn't work.. only if i could see the poles of the magnets, and the actual shape of the slanted magnet...I'm going crazy here...
So Scott Clarke never came back and has disapeared? If so, I'm disapointed.
what's the magnet on the back for?
Does anyone have the second of Clark's videos he posted? I have the first but not the second. If anyone has it could they post it somewhere so we could download it? I'm eager to try and replicate his magnet configuration to create a flux gate.
Actually, could someone post all his videos for those of us that would like to see them? How many did he have in total? I only have one which I assume is the first one.
So no one saved his videos?
I think they are attached to some messages right here. Didn?t you read the forum while being logged in ? I can not check right now, cause I am only accessing via my PDA.
Quote from: ScottClarke on February 20, 2006, 08:48:22 PM
Here you go - note only 2 balls have magnets on them. Normally one would assume it couldn't run if you add that magnet and that's why it is missing. This is not the case. Pay close attention, the first part of the movie shows a worst case scenario - the second part is the test people 'normally' do. Nothing changed during filming - you have to take my word on that for now........ The reason for the missing magnet? I'll leave you to ponder.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scottclarke/Movie500.wmv
Scott
This is a movie that is no longer hosted on his website. Did anyone save it or know if he posted it somewhere else? I would love to see this movie.
@thevorlon, please try this:
http://discussingscience.web1000.com/Movie500.wmv
That link did not work.
Was that link supposed to take me to a download of his video?
@thevorlon,
The link works where I am.
@thevorlon,
Try to type it in instead of clicking on it.
Edit: It's weird, it now gets me into a different web page. Have no idea what that is.
I tried it both ways and it automatically re-directed me to this link.
http://www.web1000traffic.com/mesothelioma/?wid=p243496
If you are watching the movie would you please consider uploading it somewhere so I could view it? I am not sure what the problem is, but I just keep on getting re-directed.
@thevorlon,
Yeah, I'm getting the same page now. Strange.
Now it got me into:
http://www.1shoppingcart.com/
What is going on ... have no idea ...
But do you have the video saved? Do you have it anywhere? Could you post it somewhere, please?
Tried again and got it ... Well, that's like a cat and mouse game ...
If anyone here on this forum saved that movie please post it so we can all view it again! Please!
I posted it for you in that link but you see what happens ...
Actually, I never viewed it even once. I only saw the first of his videos and never saw this second one we are trying to get now.
What I would really like to know is if the video is actually on your HDD.
Doesn't seem like much of an accomplishment now. I was also excited way back but now it seems trivial.
Like I said, I posted it for you in that link but something is going on there and you can't get it.
Would you use another service to upload the movie? By the way, thanks very much for trying to upload it. But could you upload it to another location or as an attachment? If you would do this for me I would really appreciate it.
Please, try this:
http://gggttt.host.sk/Movie500.wmv
Try to type it in the address line rather than click on it. What I get when I click on the link is 'Forbidden. You don't have permission to access /Movie500.wmv on this server.'.
The first link works again where I am.
Well, I download the video but it was only about five seconds long. Is that how long it was supposed to be? I am getting the feeling it was cut off.
here
The video is approximately 13s long.
If that is the case then I guess I have it all then.
Thanks sincerely for the movie. I really do appreciate that you took the time to post it online for me.
@FreeEnergy,
Yep, that's the entire video.
You're welcome. That was a pleasure. Good luck with your replication of the experiment.
I'm trying to find some affordable neomydium magnets online but to get the various shapes and sizes I want (none of them really very large) they are just too expensive. I thought I found some really good prices at http://www.magnet4less.com but the problem there is you have to purchase a minimum of like 40 or more of some items. They have great prices, but you can't purchase smaller numbers of any of their items. Then the other sites out there have jacked up prices for individual magnets.
It sucks wanting to be a mad scientist on such a limited budget. :-(
no problem :)
@thevorlon,
The neodymium magnets are not a must in this project. On the contrary, it seems that they are conterproductive. You may be able to accomplish better results with inexpensive ceramic magnets probably, if you manage to hit on the right configuration and balance (disbalance, rather) of forces..
Okay, I see, somebody else has already posted the missing video here.
Thanks.
One important thing:
Scott told me in a private email,
that you need retracting stator magnet,
so that they go back and forth, when a rotor passes
by, simular to the Finsrud device. where also the stator magnets
go back, when the ball approaches...
This might be a trick to get over the sticking point...
@Stefan,
This is a very important remark. In my conversations with Finsrud he insisted that such motion is crucial for the device to work and that so far no one has a working perpetuum mobile due to the overlooking of this point. Also, Wesley Snyder?s device has the axis of the rotor wobble, thus overcoming the sticky point. Unfortunately, I still have not seen Snyder?s device working when suspended on a stand and not held by hands. Also, Scott Clarke completely disappeared just when he was explaining the need for the stator magnets to move and telling us he?ll show us his device working.
What I'm curious about was how he was using both attraction to the metal ball and neos on the metal balls at the same time. Does that mean he was using both attraction to the metal ball and repulsion using the small neo-magnets?
Also, how did he have the stator magnets rigged to be so flexible? Were they on a hinge with a spring behind them?
One thought I have is to use a spring behind one or all of the stator magnets. If a spring was used what would probably be it's lifespan? Does a spring lose it's springyness after so many compressions and releases?
isn't this a video of a variation of what he was talking about??
There are a lot of wires visible and no description so I don't know if it is a true magnet motor.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2703180506289064827&q=magnet+motor&hl=en
Quote from: ktm_2000 on November 03, 2006, 06:01:50 PM
isn't this a video of a variation of what he was talking about??
There are a lot of wires visible and no description so I don't know if it is a true magnet motor.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2703180506289064827&q=magnet+motor&hl=en
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Paul_Harry_Sprain_magnet_motor
Isn't the Sprain motor the same thing as the Takahashi Motor?